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[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] leoparis:
so in terms of battery life what kind of improvement we are talking about with NAND port? 20%? 50? any idea?

I am getting acceptable performance when in standby ~1% per hour (much less than that with winmo ~0.4% per hour). i think i am getting worse battery performance when using the phone than winmo. obviously, sd card needs to be accessed constantly to run android and i assume that costs some juice.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] wardh:
In WM, install a program to NAND and try it, clock how long it takes to start and so on then uninstall it and install it to you SD-card and do the same thing. Now you know the difference ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Beretta93:
Ok I'll do it. ;)

So, anyone to answer my request?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dadme:
Why don't ask in Kaiser forums about diferences. HTC kaiser has all android versions, nand and haret about few months ago.:)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] MartyLK:
mattc LeoNexus 1.1 using starbase64's setCPU text file

EDIT - Search starbase64's threads for the additional setCPU configuration settings that go with the text file.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Moon2:
Are you using the latest version of quadrant for that test?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] MartyLK:
That is an old test. I don't even have that build anymore.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] masondoctorjt:
I'm using mattc v1.8 on a data 8gb card. It doesn't even have a class rating on it. So I figure of it's keeping up with a nexus, that's pretty good.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Blades:
This is as close as it gets.. First is a breakdown of default n1 froyo quadrant score. second is my hd2 clocked at 1190mhz. I believe this is with the storage card mounted.. I find that if you unmount sd, the io score tends to be higher. The CPU score is really the crazy variable/variation between different scores seen.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Sichroteph:
19 posts in this threads and nobody realise the main point : We have RAM.

Android is loaded from Sd-card, correct, but loaded into RAM.

So why comparing quadrant scores between ram and ram ?

Gain in battery perfomance won't be that much.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] secretgate:
excuses ask! is it to be made now already possible android in the NAND?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Moon2:
oh, k, makes sense ty
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ajm2387:
True but when you send/recieve a sms that read/writes to the SD card because that's where your data is actually stored. When you shut down your phone everything is retained on the SD card meaning that it's constantly reading/writing to your SD card. When you install an app, cache any files through the browser, anything like that that's all I/O on the SD card (the data.img i think). I/O to the SD card taxes the battery more than I/O to the NAND

So yes while it may perform super fast in the benchmarks I believe real world usage of NAND will lead to even faster performance and wayyyyyyy better battery life.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Beretta93:
Ram is not rom. I suppose you have a computer right? So do you think hard drive access time and reading speed has no incidence on performance since active processes are running from ram? If that was the case, we would have ssd as main storage for OSs nowadays...

This test is relevant, but I still don't know how to show NAND in windows as flash drive to proceed...And I think comparing quadrant from native nexus and nexus builds is not clearly highlighting the storage importance. (Perdon my english)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tidus18:
They are very close. It is available to Cotulla's dev team and private testers only at the moment. Read up more here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=732160

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=8211940&postcount=203

We now have to patiently wait and don't pester the developers :D
[General Questions and Answers] mkamodang:
Recently I clicked a vdo through my HTC HD2. It was about 5 minutes vdo but very important to me. When I stopped the vdo and tried to play the file, it tried to load but fail to play back. I tried with VLC, Gom player, and others on pc but did not play back. If some one can kindly help me to repair or fix this mg4 vdo files, I would be grateful. The files show 100mb above and the extn is mp4. I tried google search to resolve the vdo file but did not succeed so far. Any solution or suggestion would be highly appreciated. My email id is mkamodang@rediffmail.com:confused:
[General Questions and Answers] djteotancolis:
cant you delete that file and load it back from your computer?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] gcchui:
Am currently on stock firmware jh1 (hong kong) with voodoo b4.

I am experiencing really bad battery drain and I have disable d the lagfix. However I would go back to stock kernel as this might be the root cause of my battery drain.

Where can I find the stock kernel? And do kernel have to suit the frimware?

Will flashing to ji1 on kiies flash the kernel too?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Darkstriker:
Flash to ji1 will flash they kernel aswell.

Alternatively, if you can't find the stock kernel, you can just flash the jh1 pda again. It should leave other things intact.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] mdalacu:
Please, for only flashing kernel , what options should i check in ODIN ? I have the file containing stock kernel.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Darkstriker:
Only default ones.
[Hero CDMA General] AznGunner:
Hey all, I need help.....bought a HTC hero off craigslist, should've known better. The esn went fine but the msl code never worked...I researched and found out that the phone's msl was changed to "0's"...so I'm guessing it was unlocked for another carrier possibly Cricket. Well, I need it to be on Sprint...phone and text works fine, but no data. Do I need to flash it back to Sprint or is there settings that I need for my data to be restored? Please help!

If anything, how do I restore the OEM msl code in case I need to bring it back for tech support? I'm sure they frown big time if they see it's unlocked!
[Hero CDMA General] joehunni:
Try calling sprint tech support about, you'll probably just need to run the ruu program from the sprint website.
[Hero CDMA General] chromiumleaf:
Yes, I suggest trying the Sprint RUU found here, but I would try it BEFORE calling tech support if you're worried about them finding out if its been unlocked/rooted :D
[Vibrant General] NoDataFound:
These "pattern lockout please help" threads are the worst attempt at recovering stolen phones. Its obvious thw thieves create multiple accounts on xda, Then reply with things like "this is happening to me too" It supposed to build their credibility by creating small layers of trust. Its to make you think "Oh, well if multiple people are having an issue, maybe this is just another failure in the long list of problems."

I wouldnt be suprised if they start pm'ing people who attempt to help.

The bottom line is, this is a weak attempt to socially engineer you to break the law by helping them break the law. We all know that if you forget your pattern its easy enough to recover from it. My son locks my phone once a week from incorrect pattern entry. With my G1 it was married to one google account so i was forced to recover via gmail. Therefore if they are the true owners they will have no problem recovering.
[Vibrant General] PoisonWolf:
Word.

Well said.
[Vibrant General] lqaddict:
Need to sticky this.

I'd pay for an app that locks down the recovery and download mode with a password - can't remember your pass - tough ****.
[Vibrant General] henreeg:
Hey people, I forgot my....

oh... I guess I have to ask androidforums...

:P
[Vibrant General] dbm0361:
+1
[Vibrant General] All~G1:
:D

Definitely agree though!!!
[Vibrant General] XfooYen:
Bump. Sticky this.
[Vibrant General] intruda119:
I agree with the OP, theres alot of phones on ebay and craigslist of the locked android phones. I sent a message to an ebay seller and his response was the phone was as is, but fully working. Would not go into detail when I asked him was it user error or stolen. My initial Vibrant I bought was stolen and I had no security installed. That mistake wont happen again but Please dont help the theives.
[Vibrant General] SamsungVibrant:
what if the person is being honest, and they are really pattern locked out, and they don't know anything about android? LOL that would suck, but I agree, lets not help thieves.
[Vibrant General] Apexsilverevo:
Yeah pretty much a big f you. I am a legit owner who was locked out the day I got my phone. Gmail did not unlock it so I called tmo. They walked me through a master unlock which made things worse, as now all my gmail info was deleted. Thank goodness there were people willing to help and I was able to get my phone back up and running. Its people like you who really make it hard for someone to get the help they need here on xda.
[Vibrant General] tubaking182:
it happens, but tough ****, we can't determine the real idiots from the thieves so it's best to help no one get past the unlock screen.

(although on stock vibrant there is a known issue that the pattern unlock does not go away even if you do the right thing)
[Vibrant General] speoples20:
While I do agree we shouldn't help thieves, we shouldn't make such a blanket statement. Just because you get locked out of your phone doesn't mean you stole it. I've had customers whose friends tried to unlock their phone and locked them out.

But I can see it now all the unhelpful vultures on here as soon as someone asks about being locked out of their phone. "ZOMG THIEVE CALL THE POLICE, TELL THE MODS, TRACK THEIR IP, THEIR WORSE THAN HITLER!!!!"
[Vibrant General] tubaking182:
i am not saying that if a customer brings their phone into my store i am not going to help then(i would get reprimanded for that) but online i have no way of knowing if they are telling the truth or not. when people bring their phone into the store you can usually tell if they are telling the truth or not, or you have a hundred tools at your disposal as a rep that will tell you whether or not they bought the phone and/or it is theirs
[Vibrant General] NoDataFound:
I am not suggesting there are not circumstances where everything goes wrong and you are unable to sign in using your gmail account to unlock. Wait... yes i am. If you are in this situation it is 100% your fault.

Take ownership of your phone and whats on it.

If it were so easy to circumvent 2 layers of secuirty on a locked android device... then why even have it on there.

Most if not all people looking to get around the pattern unlock are in possesion of a phone they dont own.
[Vibrant General] tubaking182:
or they are completely retarded like 90% of my customers, there are thousands of people out there that have an android device and have no clue what their gmail password is because the sales rep set all that up for them and made sure that when they walked out the door they would have no problems. at least once a week i get customers that come in and tell me that they locked themselves out of their phone and i know they did because A) i sold it to them and set it up B) a co-worker sold it to them and i set it up C) they are old. most people don't bother to remember passwords just like they don't remember phone numbers, because technology has the ability to remember stuff for us then why the hell should we have to use our brain at all?

i am not saying that we should walk people through how to get past it, i am just stating that some people really are that stupid and can't remember unlock patterns or passwords, or phone numbers or whatever else. frankly i think even i have locked myself out of my old G1 because i changed my pattern and then forgot what is was(i changed mine once a week) just because i changed the pattern doesn't mean i stole it, it means i'm an idiot

i have also seen phones that will not let you use the gmail credentials even though you can use those same credentials to log in via computer. just because someone is stupid does not make them a thief, although being a thief makes them stupid
[Vibrant General] Apexsilverevo:
Just because you have not run into a situation in which all systems failed does not mean it doesn't happen. Don't be do short sighted and pig headed that you under mind the purpose of help forums. I consider myself a semi intelligent person but somehow found myself completely locked out of my first vibrant. With the help of a few good people I was back up and running the next day. And this was on my day old stock vibrant. And yes the gmail auth failed even with the correct login info.
[Vibrant General] tubaking182:
As I pointed out already(and I'm agreeing with you) this is a known issue, and t-mo has said many times that they plan on a fix but I doubt it will be soon
[Vibrant General] geocepe:
Overall you are correct. I deal with people all the time that dont know tech at all. The only thing I see wrong with your logic is that those type of people would not be on this forum. If the people bought the phone through a legit source they can go back to that store and get it unlocked or replaced.
[Vibrant General] Apexsilverevo:
Got to love the xda app lol, I meant to quote the post above. But appreciate your response :)
[Vibrant General] jameskever:
Listen, there is a flaw with the fail safe of the patern lock. Its supposed to verify your google account info. It completely failed for me. First I was told I had to do it using 3G and not wi-fi. But neither worked. T mo actually replaced my phone because I got licked out

locked. They saw the error when I showed them I could log on with a computer but not with the phone which I had a receipt for.

Try it for yourself. Enter the wrong code until it asks for google verification.

Before you get your panties in a wad, why not see if there's a bug here after all.
[Vibrant General] kponti:
Thats why I am seriously worried about the fact that I do not remember my pattern. I set it, and stopped using it for the last few months. Now I cannot remember (should have set it the same as my Mytouch), so I do not require it to unlock the phone. The day I forget and require it or someone does it mistakenly, or the system does it itself by mistake (yes my phone does weird crap sometimes, enabling things and sounds I have shut off etc) I will be locked out of MY phone.
[Vibrant General] Graph.Two:
I say from now on you show legitimate proof of purchase.. before some one gets help with a locked phone.. yes I've had the same exact problem where I've been super drunk and can't remember my lock pattern and it goes to Gmail verification and still won't validate!! (Both drunk and sober) :) but that was way back on the G1 (maybe the rom idk) so I would wipe and call it an "oh well" but I've tested it my self on the vibrant and it validates by Gmail just fine..

Sent from my smash you in the face Vibrant!!
[Vibrant General] Erickomen27:
Lets Be Honest..We Don't Know If People Stole Them Or Not, I Had My Vibrant, And I Had The Unlock Screen On, My Friend Thought He Could Figure It Out And He Didn't I Didn't Care Because I Knew My Google Account, But It Didn't Work, And To Top It Off, I Guess I Had A Hardware Locked Vibrant So I Couldn't Get Into Recovery To Wipe The Phone, Now..What Was I Supposed To Do?

You Can Either Trust Someone On The Internet, Or Tell Them To Go **** Off. But Lets Be Realistic What Is This Forum For? Helping People? Or, Being Dicks To Each Other?
[Vibrant General] PaiPiePia:
Internet is anonymous that is why even grandmas are being dicks on here.

I just tried the gmail reset and it worked, even with the fact that I created a new gmail account just for this phone. I was on my home wifi and it authenticated just fine. However, I think the phone does not check the password over internet, I think it is stored on the phone when you entered it for the very first time because it authenticated really fast, like it isn't even checking it.
[Vibrant General] jameskever:
It didn't work for me and to make matters worse, I couldn't find my receipt at first. T mo thought I was lying. Lots of people on this forum accused me of lying.

Thank God I found the receipt.

I got a new phone.

Up until this problem, I've been extremely grateful for this forum. Unfortunately, now I see how many **** heads there are here.

If someone stole the phone, what the hell do you care? Is it such a big deal that your going to **** on those who are honest and have a legitimate problem... Like the google verification NOT working on a hardware locked phone???

You people need to lighten up. Go get laid or something.
[Vibrant General] smashpunks:
I say who gives a **** and stop trying to POLICE the FORUMS......

What else. Stop helping people with bricked phones?

Some of Yall are crazy and take this **** wayyyyy to seriously
[Vibrant General] smashpunks:
agreed. This place is crazy. You say you want froyo and Bamnnnnn, you get pounced on like a lion eating its prey....

I mean, common, phones been out forever now and no froyo, or update, or anything. Its crazy (waits for the attack on why I dont deserve froyo). lol

Like the man said, go get laid. Yall are POLICING this forum way too much.
[Vibrant General] masterotaku:
I don't see what all the fuss is about. Not only are such threads an obvious ploy, they're equally an obvious ploy by people too retarded to even Google. It's relatively childs play to get around the pattern lock and account without having to resort to bugging people here. If you can't google your way to that in under 30 seconds you're not even making an effort.

Given that this is true, any advice given here to people who may have less than noble intentions isn't really going to change much of anything either way.
[Vibrant General] jameskever:
So I must be one of those retards your talking about because I couldn't figure it out. There are lots of people on here who have the same problem and they were stuck. I googled it. Then I came here, where I always come for help with this phone and much of what I found was really discouraging. Much of what I continue to see is discouraging.

Damn vigilantes taking things so seriously, they are messing it up for people... honest people who need help and present a challenge that's hard to solve. I don't know about you, but I enjoy a good challenge. Not when my phone is bricked, but that's partially why I enjoy rooting and customizing. But when people on here get all preachy, like, "Dont help thieves who are obviously lying." It's the people who say this who have no clue what they are talking about and add nothing to the conversation or the forum.
[Vibrant General] SWINGR:
After reading some of the threads, it scared me enough to activate me lock screen. I made it an easy letter to remember.

Maybe if people posted a screen shot of the OLAM, of a receipt or something. Watermark it with something XDA and the date or screen name. I used to do this with high-end car parts I sold online. I put the person's screen name in the pic of the part.

I could take a pic with like 5 of my friends, with my grandma, holding my social security card, saying "That’s my baby."

But seriously, like said, this place is to help people. Either choose to help, or click the back button. But of course, I have never had my phone stolen. Or been locked out of one.
[Vibrant General] NoDataFound:
We need to lighten up. Riiiiiight.

Funny thing is no one accused anyone of theft. I simply stated thieves should not be helped.

If things like this thread offend you, then im afraid you deserve it.

Again... take ownership of your problems. Do not try to flip it around and make it sound like anyone on these forums owes you anything.
[Vibrant General] masterotaku:
Here's a hint. Odin...Download Mode..flash stock rom....win...

There's also. Recovery Mode.....factory reset....win

Neither of these require getting past the pattern lock or needing the google account info at all.

Though there are apparently some phones that have difficulty with the normal key sequence for download mode, I've yet to come across one that wont work with the battery pull method (pull battery, hold down vol up+vol down, reinsert battery, insert usb cable that is already hooked to pc).

Much of the time if you're quick on the draw you can get adb to connect long enough for an "adb reboot download" or "adb reboot recovery" during a fresh boot sequence if you have those commands cached in the shell window and arrow-enter them.

If these methods are unavailable, a trip to your local T-Mobile store will get you fixed. Assuming it's your phone, your account, and you have no reason to avoid the T-Mobile store.

And just to be clear, I'm not a dev. I haven't touched code since the USCD Pascal and Rexx days (if that dates my old ass). But I apparently have amazing google skill? :)
[Vibrant General] jameskever:
In this thread, they did.

And it was a hardware locked phone. It would not go into recovery mode. The google verification did not work, and it wasn't because I was putting in the wrong information.

My point is there is a bug here. And it seems to be on hardware locked phones.
[Vibrant General] Apexsilverevo:
Irony is, google found me XDA lol
[Vibrant General] skater4690:
the only thing i can say about this is if they found this forum they should be able to find the answer themselves lol but if someone actually stole the phone then of course we shouldnt help them. but of course there is no way for us to tell if they stole it or not and this forum is for help and if someone says i locked my phone up just tell them to search if they really locked their phone they will find the answer. we are not to judge and say who stole what but instead of flaming them about it just leave them alone or tell them to search for it no need to be an ass since you dont know if it was stolen or not.

side note if he says he stole it everyone should tear him a new asshole lol
[Vibrant General] kponti:
Can you answer my question please?

Have you changed your gmail password since you got the phone?

If so that could explain why the verification does not work. If the verification is using the password you used when you initially signed into gmail on your phone, then it will explain why the newer password does not work (ie does not verify your info online, just uses the one stored on the phone).

If that is the case, maybe problem solved, if you get locked out use the password you used when you first setup up gmail on your phone.

Someone test this out and let me know so I can do this and get this pattern off my phone, I am nervous putting the phone in my pocket now lol
[Vibrant General] kponti:
I DID IT!!!

I called customer service, they encouraged me to lock the phone and try my gmail info, I did and it worked for me.

I believe the issue with the gmail verification is that it is not linked to the website like you would think it it. SO if you change your gmail password after you initially setup the phone, it does not change the password in the phone's memory. You have to use the original password you used when you first setup the phone.

My phone now has a pattern I remember (my old pattern from my Mytouch), so I am good. Thanks to all the people who helped, and the rest of the morons can go to hell.
[Vibrant General] ELStiko:
The reason I have not posted often in this forum is. Get ready.....

The search function works wonders in this forum. Idiots who post up new threads about help when there are obviously posts/threads with the answer already should be flamed. But I will admit, there is a lot of these help me threads we have to sort through to find the answers we need. But then again, if those idiots would do their research first, then there wouldn't be a need to sort out BS threads.

If you want to be treated like an adult, take adult actions and find your answer first. Then ask if you cannot find what you are looking for. Otherwise, you are just clutter.