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[Desire HD General] MacaronyMax:
Hey :D saw this over at GSMarena the HTC D'HD has been benchmarked with neocore and quadrant and the quadrant results are amazing much higher than the N1 have a look here http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_hd_gets_benchmarked_its_rom_ported_to_the_hd2-news-1941.php
[Desire HD General] oprisnik:
Here are other benchmarks: http://www.areamobile.de/handys/2591-htc-desire-hd/testbericht (german):

HTC Desire HD

Sunspider Benchmark 4261 ms

Google V8 Benchmark v5	420 pts

Quadrant Benchmark	1675 pts

Samsung Galaxy S

Sunspider Benchmark	16321 ms

Google V8 Benchmark v5 70,7 pts

Quadrant Benchmark	871 pts

Apple iPhone 4

Sunspider Benchmark	10804 ms

Google V8 Benchmark v5	85,4 Punkte

Quadrant Benchmark	-
[Desire HD General] MacaronyMax:
Oh yeah thanks :D Seems strange though GSMarena's model made almost 2000 (1974) in Quadrant Where as areamobile's HD only reached 1675 which is alot of difference because my overclocked Froyo Hero will only reach 294 which is the difference :eek: :D:D:D
[Desire HD General] faddys123:
on that website it says that the htc desire hd has a front camera has it ?
[Desire HD General] MacaronyMax:
Does it ?? :D i thinbk it doesnt but ...
[Desire HD General] oprisnik:
They made a mistake i suppose. It does not have a front cam.
[Desire HD General] hoss_n2:
i think they run quadrant more than one time to achieve these score
[Desire HD General] eXDee:
Thats excellent, even with HTC Sense enabled.

Also ALOT
[Desire HD General] MacaronyMax:
Yep , imagine what some awesome devs could do with this :D
[Desire HD General] Bumble-Bee:
~1600 in quadrant seems resonable for the desire HD ..... anyone worrying it will be a beast ...... one more thing

768MB RAM !!!​
[Desire HD General] Mahagon Coral:
Quadrant scores are higher directly after reboot.

On lagfixed SGS it can be a difference similiar to this when comparing directly after boot results with results of some hours later.
[Desire HD General] JupiterDroid:
I love to see all the SGS users coming on this board saying this beast is not gonna be that much better, this definitely proves otherwise, just accept it,

The SGS has rubbish battery life, crap build quality, non existant GPS... The best thing about the phone is the S-AMOLED screen, and thats it!

Desire HD FTW

lol

JD
[Desire HD General] Bumble-Bee:
Just For Comparison (the first SGS benchmark looks to have been on 2.1 so not a fair test)

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GalaxyS (GT-i9000) on latest 2.2 build |

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Sunspider Benchmark --- 8085 ms

Google V8 --- 259 pts

Quadrant --- 1005 pts

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looking at that the desire HD is slightly ahead of the Galaxy S. But only time will tell only a few days to go now :-D eeek
[Desire HD General] override182:
The whole world is going to see either SGS froyo can beat nexus one with froyo on stock rom without lagfixes...

Out of the box or stock is a point for any phone, how much it can be pushed by developers is another point.. The one that wins on both point is the winner..

Hopefully samsung will do it right this time..
[Desire HD General] Bumble-Bee:
I have a GalaxyS atm and the H/W is top notch and i cant fault it ... but samsungs S/W team have a long way to go befor they are any real thret to HTC . . .
[Desire HD General] override182:
indeed.. SGS is a superb powerhouse.. it lacks on userXP and UI.. Eventhough HTC does not grant phone with the best specs, but they balanced it up with a great software.. and the devs love HTC too
[Desire HD General] mirsalimov:
More results

img545.imageshack.us/img545/9767/benchmarkpro.jpg

youtube.com/watch?v=BJWOznNUfow
[Desire HD General] Hakimy:
So is it true that froyo doesn't really have much different effect on SGS? Does anyone have a picture showing quadrant result for the Desire HD and SGS froyo stock?
[Desire HD General] Beards:
The problem here is Samsung totally cocked up the Froyo and yesterday removed it from the Scandinavian servers.

Part of the removal was they were not happy with the reg-hack but a lot is to do with Froyo underperforming on the SGS.

Samsung are letting the SGS down badly.
[Desire HD General] jords12:
Samsung let the SGS down from the start - fix the lag, GPS, some other things I've forgotten, and you would have a great phone. They got the hard stuff right, and all the easier stuff completely wrong.
[Desire HD General] thenazgullord:
LoL you gotta be real dumb to think desire hd is better than galaxy s. if you take the best possible software on both and benchmark them the sgs kicks the desires asshole. i have benchmarked them both on strip down android 2.3 and there is no comparison. just to mention i own a desire s so i am not a sgs fan but the truth is the truth. samsung h/w is better than almost anything out there.if you get a custom rom on a sgs it is one of the best handsets ever
[Desire HD General] Hawks556:
Why start arguing about something that's been posted in September last year?
[Desire HD General] thenazgullord:
if it wasnt to be argued about it would (or at least should) be deleted from the forum. its not so i can comment on it
[Desire HD General] ricey1986:
Shame about the plastic build quality though
[Desire HD General] thenazgullord:
actually a plastic phone has better chances of surviving internal damage when dropped than a metalic-shelled one. that is because the vibrations dispense equally and the electrical circuits dont get much impact.of course it might break under a lot of pressure where a metallic shell will just bend but the functional damage i think will be similar to each case and lets not forget the fact that aluminium gets scratches much more easily. (i have an original iphone 2g and the metal back is a mess even though i take very good care of it)

plastic phones may feel a bit flimsy on your palm but personally it never bothered me so i think its more a matter of taste.
[Desire HD General] Hawks556:
Yeah ofcourse you can post your opinion on this matter, but answering to a specific post (and calling the person dumb) when there's no guarantee that the member even follows this forum anymore is pretty pointless.
[Desire HD General] thenazgullord:
i dont really care if he/she follows the thread or not. should i? i am not interested in starting a conversation with him/her i just stated an opinion. and my personal view is only on the building quality as i mentioned i have measured cpu and memory extensively so what i stated is fact not opinion
[Desire HD General] synergye:
I'll just leave this here

Here is one of my more recent benchmarks on my CM kernel @ 2016mhz ondemand on my DHD. I literally can't get under 4k anymore at this clock.
[Desire HD General] naira1:
Amazing score bro.. One question, is this good for the phone? Will this not shorten the life of the processor?

Sent from my kickass, blazing fast Virtuous Unity V1.26
[Desire HD General] Flussen:
the processor will survive 10 times longer than the phone itself.
[Desire HD General] toby_lerone:
glad i invested in a desire hd then :)
[General Questions and Answers] twistahh:
Hello!

Just one question: Is there anyway to convert .apk to.app

This may can be stupid question because i dont undertsand these things at all . :rolleyes:
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Irieone:
Where is the best place to go to get the latest Gapps flash?

Thanks!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] shpatar:
Hi, I don't know if this is a per-build issue but I decided to ask it here so as not to bother the devs on the other forum.

Basically from what I've seen, is that if I want to put, say a wallpaper on the SD card and then access it from Android, I either have to put it on the SD card through WinMo, or download it directly from Android. If I connect to the PC with Android and copy something over, the system doesn't see it afterwards, nor can it open it.

Is there a way around this?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Marvlesz:
from what i learnt, ATM Android can't remount sd card so if u used cable or MMC reader it won't work you have to reboot android. :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] whynot66:
1. Reboot phone thus should make it show up

2. Transfer using Droid explorer

3. Remove SD and transfer by putting SD into pc

Either one if them should work

It'll be fixed on new builds pretty soon I think
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] polo735:
I always end up booting WM to use usb to computer sd transfer.

For me mounting sd via usb on android appears to work correctly. The files transfer, it mounts back to the phone correctly but none of the files work.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] tayfelix:
Hi Guys What HTC Phone Should I Choose That Have Android, I'm Choose HTC Wildfire, Is It Better? As I'm Buying A New Phone
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] orb3000:
That will depend on what are your personal needs, if you are coming for Universal you´ll fin out that it´s not easy to migrate to a non hardware keyboard (at least that was my experience) I 1st migrated to Rhodium and then to Leo but to be honest I still miss a hardware keyboard...

I´m quite happy with my Leo (besides kb) as i can have the best of both OS´s: WM and Android ;)
[Windows Mobile] yeramihi:
Hi all.

First time in this part of the forums, so please excuse if it will sound like noob.

I've searched and couldn't find it so decided to post it...

I have a Touch HD Blackstone phone, I'm trying to cook myself a very small and quick ROM for it, as I do not need most of the apps you get with the other ROMs. When I cook plain ROM then virtual buttons (green, home, back and red) on it doesn't work. When I use one of the ROMs you get with the kitchen these work but got a lot of other apps.

Can someone tell me which module/ext package is responsible for handling these buttons? I really do not fancy trying them all 1 by 1, there is quite a few over there and cooking + flashing isn't the quickest thing to do.

Thanks in advance,

Yeramihi
[Windows Mobile] SiemensLover:
Just be sure to include:

- ButtonSetting (i use version 3_16_0_0)

- TouchFlo (I use version 3_0_19142028)

and every thing will be OK

WBR

Siemens Lover
[Windows Mobile] yeramihi:
Thanks for reply.

Well, I have deliberately excluded TouchFlo from my ROM. But following your advice I Cooked empty ROM with just TouchFlo and ButtonSettings. Unfortunately On my phone it causes lots of problems. On same screens (regardles of app or menu itself) it takes over a second for the phone to register and acknowledge taps. And it always happens on the phone keypad.I can dial first two numbers but after that I need to hold my finger/stylus on the screen for at least second to be able to tap next number. Or any other key on the screen in a fact. I've managed to put this down to TouchFlo...

For some reason this happens only with SYS starting from 25xxx (more finger friendly version). I wouldn't mind using old one if I could only get some stock release of it from which I could start my work. Most of the old ones I could find are either fully modified (and I would like to start from square one) or links are expired.

So next question will be: can someone provide me with stock ROM for TouchHD version 21xxx please?

SiemensLover - Thanks for your advice - turned out to be exactly what I was looking, although it gives me another problem :/

Cheers
[Windows Mobile] SiemensLover:
to solve the screen tap delay, be sure to have the following entry in ur registry:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\GWE\Touch\Filter]

"MinimumTapTime"=dword:00000000

It will solve ur problem!

WBR

Siemens Lover
[Android Software Development] raziel23x:
Delete me delete me
[Android Software Development] raziel23x:
I am currently working on a new app and this is my first ever app I have attemped to make with the android os.

I am using eclipse 3.6 and using android 1.5 version as the base to make the app as compatible as I can with all android phones.

I am a newbie to java and I read a few tutorials which helped me get the app up and working but I am using webview using iframes and have the html document hosted online but I would like to have it intergrated into the app itself so that I will not have to worry if a lot of people use the app will not bring down the website.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Nixeus:
Hello my friends,

I would like to find the latest IME EzInput for 0409 of other langage ( but not CHS)

The last i have is the :

IME Engine Western v2.1.20142921.00
IME Ez Input Western v2.1.20142921.00

In the last OBOE rom, Hengshan Rom, and Hushan Rom, there 2.2 packages, but only for CHT.

Anyone have a new EzInput build of this famoux keyboard please ?

Thanks a lot,

regards,

Nixeus
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jmart518:
I am pretty sure that is the newest none CHS keyboard. I don't think there has even been another WWE leak since the one that had those packages.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] andrewluecke:
Just a general warning to those who seek out APK's on the internet.

I've noticed an increasing number of people posting APK links on XDA-developers using 3rd party hosting such as multi-upload instead of the official developers websites. This is a potential security risk to your own phone, because Android code CAN be decompiled, and dodgy code can be added before re-uploading. You at a greater risk of downloading compromised APK's if you download them from an untrusted party.

Many of these APK's seem to be hosted officially by the developers already, so please link directly to the developers OWN servers when possible, and those who use their phone for business or store sensitive data on it, should avoid using APK's from sources which weren't set up by the original developers.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Electroz:
First off: Who's to say the original developer can't put this so-called "dodgy code" in their own apks?

Secondly: The Android marketplace doesn't have any strict rules as to what someone can post, and the code isn't even checked. You have just as high a chance of getting this "dodgy code" from any app you download straight from the market.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] andrewluecke:
Nobody. But it is a hell of a lot safer from a trusted first party, than being passed down a chain of untrusted people before it makes it's way to you. Especially since apk's don't seem to be digitally signed (I may be wrong).

I'm just concerned that you can post any APK you want here which have an official website, insert a trojan, and nobody would be none the wiser. I'd simply like to see a change in attitude.. If someone posts an unofficial link to an APK which is already available by developers, I'd like to see people stand up and point to the OFFICIAL website.

At the moment, people are actually ENCOURAGING bad security practices, and doing so makes XDA a target ripe for future attack. And I don't want to wake up to a forum of people *****ing about Samsung, for a problem caused because of a trojaned copy of Angry birds beta on XDA.

We should build awareness now for people to get files from the last link in the chain, rather than wait for someone to try it (which they probably will, and may have already done)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Electroz:
Are you familiar with modifying an APK? It is not nearly as easy as you make it seem. If the developer doesn't release the source code, it can't easily be functionally modified minus a few graphics and the like. Not to mention, this is how the iPhone jailbreak system works in regards to getting content. And has been going on with PC for years.

I really do not think it's something we have to worry about. Just install an anti-virus on your phone if you're worried.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] andrewluecke:
1) Grab 7zip to decompress your apk package.

2) And yep, there are tools to decompile dex files too. Technically it seems to be more like disassembly, but can probably easily be modified to cause the app to ring russian phone sex numbers every 10 minutes without your consent, or do other nasty things. There are some security mechanisms in place, but that doesn't make them invincible.

You tell me, what is the advantage of encouraging reposting of APK's with already existing websites? Because it doesn't seem to have any advantages, but can have BAD security implications.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] marty1976:
Good thing to raise awareness among users, but alas - most of them don't even bother to read the permissions requested by apps downloaded from the market.

There are actually quite few people that have an idea of what could happen if they had a rouge app on their phones. I recently tried to give a similar general warning in another forum that people should take care when flashing "beta" firmwares downloaded from some hosting site and not from the developer... You think most of them cared? Sadly they didn't...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] opensourcefan:
There's nothing wrong with being a bit cautious and smart about the way we do things. I'll trust the app if I see the dev is in "the" community.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Electroz:
So, obviously you've never tried to actually edit one of those XML files within it. try that and get back to me.

APK's are not open source and cannot be decompiled and edited. The only way for what you are suggesting can happen, to happen, is if the APK in question had its sources released so someone else could release an edited version of the program, made from scratch, in java.

"can probably" is not very sure. The chances of someone posting a completely separate app with the name of a well known app is much more likely than someone editing an existing app (assuming the sources were available).

If you have no clue about android apk development why even bother arguing?

Agree 100%. Much better said! You don't know who's releasing what, so watch what you're installing and just make sure it looks like the program you were looking for in the first place..
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Daneshm90:
Refer to apktool Link

Or Apk Manager (My Signature)

Xml's can be 100% decompiled/recompiled from binary to human readable and back thanks to apktool.

2 options to make sure ur safe :

1. Dont install root applications (they require 0 upfront standard android api permissions hence u won't know what its doing behind the scenes)

2. Install apps by transferring them to ur phone and using the package manager, that way you can see standard permissions (if any) and judge accordingly.

You know what would be cool, if superuser could log the "su" commands a root requiring app executes :p
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Electroz:
Wow, my bad.... But no wonder major game companies aren't developing for the platform yet.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] leoon:
But even if the apk that u downloaded from the net have a virus (eg. sends SMS to get money), you will still see the permission when installing so an antivirus isnt needed, or am i wrong?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Daneshm90:
If its a non-root requiring app then yes, it must disclose its permissions prior to installing it through package manager not if u use adb to install.

You just have to judge, if a wifi toggle app is asking for email/sms permissions, you might want to be careful ;)

As for root-requiring apps, theres not much you can do other than read reviews for that app or decompile and try to understand what its doing behind the scenes.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Brut.all:
It's quite easy to modify disassembled app code as well - trust me ;-) Also I think we will have possibility to decompile to Java code in the future.

Just don't think of your phone as a smaller PC (especially Windows), because this isn't true. There will never be antiviruses for Android and your only protection are permissions. Anyone could create market account and upload malicious app.

About game companies: they usually write in native code and it's really hard to decompile (or maybe even impossible for now). Besides... did you heard about gameloft's recent games? They're really awesome. Note that first 3d-gaming capable Android phones were released just ~10 months ago, so it's still quite early.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] andrewluecke:
It should, however, what if it is an alternate launcher, in which case, you'd expect it to be able to send SMS's and make phone calls. That's all fine, until you realise the copy of launcherPro you downloaded using a multi-upload in XDA is having phone sex with a russian operator costing you hundreds of dollars.

It's actually good Brut spoke here. Brut[Maps] is relevant, because it introduces new features which distinguishes it from Google's version. However, can we trust Brut as much as we can trust Google? He seems trustworthy yes, but as trustworthy as Google? Questionable. (Btw Brut, good work on your mod). Of course, his mod does have considerable benefits showing he is interested in helping the community and he hasn't caused any problems thus far. That only means his official multi-upload posts are safe though, if I repost them elsewhere, you shouldn't trust my copies.

It's common sense that programs should pass by as few hands as possible to remain secure. We need to build awareness about security practices (particularly for business users who may compromise their companies security or information). I'm not saying all rom's are safe.. Think about it though, if an APK is already readily accessible, why would someone go through the effort of re-uploading it?

Furthermore, we should encourage people using their phone's for important purposes to use the official Kies releases, not random firmware's available from Samfirmware's (which may not even be final versions).

Remember, trojans are common in the warez world, and it's better to change the attitude of the community before they become a problem here too (otherwise, people will be stuck in a poor mindset that compromises herd immunity). XDA is a website targeted at the technical crowd, and we should set a good example.

@Electroz. Haven't disassembled them myself, but checked a tutorial. But someone has responded already anyway.. Just because I don't have experience doing it myself anyway, doesn't mean it isn't widely known to be possible.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
Several big guys already launched Antivirus For Android

Norton, Trend, and a few more

i think we are pretty safe with those

however... it's suck if they run in the background all the time eating the juice+cpu power away
[Galaxy S I9000 General] andrewluecke:
Anti-virus only helps for known trojans anyway, and since so few people have it installed, it doesn't help much. When Android has it built in though, it may be more useful.

Anti-virus should be considered a last line of defense anyway. And either way, I'm not concerned, because I try to minimise the risks of my own sgs. However, it's a concern that people here don't believe such a risk exists, and are actually encouraging a global attitude which might make the Android population ripe for social engineering attacks in the future.