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[EVO 4G Android Development] -viperboy-:
dont know if you guys saw it or not but look for the thread in EVO development by IncredibleDoes that says MIUI/AOSP and he has the new sense in there as well as that sweet MIUI one.
[EVO 4G Android Development] vWvSTATICvWv:
I was gonna jump on that but I'd like to see if Ava's is more stable.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Musician101:
There is someone else working on his rom, jp4756. He already has a rom with some fixes on it and is working on another. Btw, I tested the old rom, I liked it but it force closed all too often.
[EVO 4G Android Development] MRFERRARI23:
So Ava's rom will be posted tonight to try??
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
you can try the rom that jp4756 is workin on. its pretty good, just no 4g, camera, and the phone.apk grapics are pretty effed up when making calls. but other than that, its golden
[EVO 4G Android Development] jkinnison90:
Should be
[EVO 4G Android Development] MRFERRARI23:
Now say my phones currently running fresh 3.3.0.1 rom with new sprint OTA update etc.. and I wanted to try either Ava or jp4756 rom, do I lose the rom I'm currently on or what b/c I'm a little confused lol... thanks!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] cmart4:
just nandroid backup your current set up and if you don't like your newly flashed one, restore your nandroid

get rom manager from the market and flash alternate recovery RA. once in recovery, chose wipe, then wipe data/cache/ dalvick, the return and install zip from sd card.... its really pretty easy
[EVO 4G Android Development] detusueno:
Backup your current setup w/ nandroid. If you don't know how to do that search the forums.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Ep3n3wp:
Any word from ava or his twitter?
[EVO 4G Android Development] jgalan14:
not yet
[EVO 4G Android Development] MRFERRARI23:
when you do a nand backup and say we'd flash the new desire hd rom and then later on want to go back to your previous rom nand backup restores what exactly??
[EVO 4G Android Development] richardrk:
It Restores everything from your Rom, Radio, Kernal... everything. Pretty much it backs up your whole setup and freezes it in a cryochamber till you want it back again :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] apristel:
Does not do radio.
[EVO 4G Android Development] abe_ahmed09:
I just made a post on how to make this work...check it out

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=791091

BTW ON THE EVO!!!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] MRFERRARI23:
but what about all your apps and the way you have your phone set up?? it puts all that back exactly the way u had it?
[EVO 4G Android Development] richardrk:
Yes your apps will appear and work the same way as right before you performed a Nandroid backup.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
i find it weird tho. This rom restored everything I had when i was on cyanogenmod. And when I first loaded it up, the wallpaper was my wallpaper from cyanogenmod (then it switched over to the rom's default). I was on the new deodexed htc rom before i flashed this desire rom...weird..
[EVO 4G Android Development] barnacles10:
Cause froyo backs up your settings
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
i just flashed another 2.2 rom and none of it was restored
[EVO 4G Android Development] mrmomoman:
I have only noticed that CM6 Rom's restore my programs. I just installed Fresh and it did not store. Only AOSP restores from my experience.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jgalan14:
That's a froyo feature and HTC sense that other ones have is the one that came out with froyo and wasn't optimize for froyo and left some things behind now the new HTC sense has the feature just like CM 6 and that's what Google wanted to accomplished with froyo :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] MRFERRARI23:
weekend has just begun, I hope Ava blesses us with his rom!! I'm waiting on his to test even though I've been so tempted to try whats already out lol... I'm fighting the urge b/c I feel for some reason his will be really good!! :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
you're stronger than i am, i straight up flashed the other rom. that thing is amazing.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Musician101:
Amen brother lol
[EVO 4G Android Development] MRFERRARI23:
LMAOOO... I want to just seems like to much work and its not like I can use it as a daily driver, if I could then that would be a different story!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
well if you want to know what's new with this, i posted it up on the android sub reddit. those videos don't do this rom any justice, so much has been changed, it's hard for them to get all of it, and they overlooked some really good stuff.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xHausx:
anyone have a mirror? the original link is dead
[EVO 4G Android Development] barnacles10:
there are a few other roms out there. this is just the initial port. you're probably wanna grab another as we fixed sd mounting which is kinda a big deal

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=790838
[EVO 4G Android Development] alero:
I can smell it.

It is coming soon.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Ep3n3wp:
I want!!! Sense landscape!!!

I heard that the hd didn't have the frame per second cap? That it was getting 56fps...
[EVO 4G Android Development] MSmith1:
Can someone post the Rosie apk? Cant get to a computer. Thanks.
[EVO 4G Android Development] BigRick10:
It scored a 56fps on neocore.
[EVO 4G Android Development] MSmith1:
WTF? 56fps in Neocore? HTC did the Evo so dirty! I can't wait for this to be ported to the evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] halorin:
How much do you want to bet they took the work here on our kernels and implemented it there? LOL

Nevermind. Thought we were talking about fps2d.

If the desire HD really gets that high on Neocore I'd feel a little beat.
[EVO 4G Android Development] clamknuckle:
Nice. I knew it wouldn't take long!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Ep3n3wp:
Hope this don't start a riot.. Lol.. They did the evo dirty!!!

Does the hd have hdmi out? Cause that's the reason htc said the evo has the 30fps cap cause of the hdmi out...
[EVO 4G Android Development] zone23:
Awesome News!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] illogic6:
This runs a newer GPU. The EVO won't ever sore that high.
[EVO 4G Android Development] chumba8:
i cant wait for this to get ported sounds awesome
[EVO 4G Android Development] jkinnison90:
So is there something out that we flash or install to use new sense? Or is it still in process?
[EVO 4G Android Development] jm5503:
Has anyone installed the latest Rosie.apk from this dump yet???? If not im gonna do it and post the results..........
[EVO 4G Android Development] overthinkingme:
Potential potential.
[EVO 4G Android Development] myn:
No Boot.img :(
[EVO 4G Android Development] illogic6:
I've been toying with it for an hour or so and haven't gotten anything useful to work on my phone. Anyone else having any luck?
[EVO 4G Android Development] johncjenc:
ADB push of the rosie.apk broke sense. No worky.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Beejis:
Just read recently that it is still portrait, hope they were wrong...

Sent from my HTC Evo 4g
[EVO 4G Android Development] asqwrd:
I think Ava might be working on a port his twitter hints towards it
[EVO 4G Android Development] Beejis:
This is where I found that...

http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20016847-266.html

"So, using the new phones as an example, the Desire HD, which does not have a physical keyboard, will only display the home screen in portrait mode (although some applications do trigger a change using the accelerometer).

It's where she is talking about the new phones, in the last paragraph.

Sent from my HTC Evo 4g
[EVO 4G Android Development] jkinnison90:
Awesome. I know he can do it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ZEDEK:
Hopefully this CAN and WILL be ported---it has the animated flip clock that i been dying for!!!!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] luckylui:
Ava ava ava i tell u lol

Hes got it going forsure!

Sent from my phone... I think useing Tapatalk?
[EVO 4G Android Development] PlankLongBeard:
SO better video?

Sent From The Moon...
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
idk about video (because i thought that taking video on the evo is choppy because of the hdmi deal...), but the games will be better.
[EVO 4G Android Development] brownmc77:
I hate not having the best. And they did do the Evo dirty, almost like they rushed it towards the end. The desire hd seems to be the Evo's older brother ( just a couple of updated specs) , and verizion is most likely going to get their version of the Desire HD and implementing it on their lte. dammit.

Does it look like it has a kickstand? haha nooo way

http://www.product-reviews.net/2010/09/17/htc-desire-hd-verizon-release-and-lte-hints/
[EVO 4G Android Development] MRFERRARI23:
I cant wait for stuff to get ported so it works on our phones, or heck all this new HTC Desire HD goodness put into EVO cooked roms!!! :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] J_Tesla:
Verizon's model will be a world phone, so it should include CDMA and GSM. ACE is GSM, Supersonic is CDMA. So the callsign "HTC Merge" for this phone is very suitable for it's rumor.

However, the HTC Merge doesn't have an HDMI port (if I'm not mistaken). No HDMI port, no FPS cap. Video playback glory. =D
[EVO 4G Android Development] J_Tesla:
The ACE's Sense is packed with cool new features. The EVO, in the land of the free and home of the brave, should be pleased with the implementation I think.

ACE has a newer GPU, though. We'll see how it runs on the Supersonic when it is ported.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nugzo:
The "World Edition" is looking real sweet. May be worth a $200 sprint buy out. Can you imagine all the Devs that will be workin on a "world version"? If we could get Paulobrien, intersectraven, enmother, pershoot, cyanogen, etc along with the evo Devs all working on the same device, we would have one hell of a desire HD!
[EVO 4G Android Development] brownmc77:
i second that motion....but its just a never ending cycle with these damn newer phones (but thats a good thing....i think) . and my old lady is limiting me to 2 phones a year. so i have to pick and choose carefully.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nugzo:
We havent had anything close to a "world edition" yet. Cant wait!
[EVO 4G Android Development] MvP77:
Here is a video of the dump running on an HD2

http://gamesquare.co.uk/desirehd_hd2/
[EVO 4G Android Development] brownmc77:
Haha now its only a matter of time ....
[EVO 4G Android Development] jobryan26:
Watermark + Dealer75 = Unemployed for sure.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bcnice20:
So there's lib files for Skype and Skype video calls but there's no Skype app.....unless I'm overlooking it
[EVO 4G Android Development] billobob:
so you're basically drooling over what amounts to mostly the same phone and considering dropping hundreds on an upgrade just because it doesn't have an innate frame rate cap and has a better GPU? despite the fact that android's 3d game selection is still so scarce nothing really taxes the evo's snapdragon? there's always going to be something better a few months down the road, and by the time desire hd comes out in october the evo will already have been out for four. you guys make it sound like we're all rocking moguls or something--the evo is still a great top-tier phone.
[EVO 4G Android Development] rockky:
Id exit Sprint/Evo for this...in a heartbeat..
[EVO 4G Android Development] nugzo:
me 2. And its not just because of the phone though. Dude above you is right, evo is still an awesome piece of hardware. I think i'm looking more forward to all the custom stuff from the combined efforts of the XDA devs. We have some devs working on nexus one stuff that are on a different level. Devs that google and HTC give phones to. add them to the real devs over here (not the ones crying for donations to buy an EVO) and we'll have the best roms/themes/apps you can imagine. Testing Roms and Apps from talented devs is more fun than gaming to me.
[EVO 4G Android Development] rockky:
Couldna said it better. The yeah... love the Evo too.
[EVO 4G Android Development] edtate:
It would be a wet dream of mine if hero_over could get incorporate the new sense into baked snack. Oh, and of course manup's themes included.

Oh, and the fact that now I may be forced to get a 4th replacement evo just might make the 200$ buyout worth it and switch to verizon. But damn, I hate data caps :(.
[EVO 4G Android Development] clamknuckle:
There already is a combined dev project, it's called cyanogenmod. I'm sure there will be one for the Ace, but otherwise, there will be a bunch of individual rom threads like the Evo and every other Android device out there.

As far as another level, I'm not sure what you are talking about. The most popular ROM for the N1 is CM6. I'm not sure if you realize how CM works, but most of the changes made are global, then certain devs make changes based on the device they represent. It will happen the same way with the Ace. There will be a few devs added to the team, and then life will continue.
[EVO 4G Android Development] edtate:
@brownmc77-

....Looks like a kickstand to me
[EVO 4G Android Development] Leukay:
You're right, but that's not the Desire HD... That's the rumored phone that will be going to Verizon
[EVO 4G Android Development] Rippley05:
Phone is sexy...
[EVO 4G Android Development] edtate:
Well, wouldn't that phone be quite closely related to the desire hd then? I'm thinking something of the relationship between the desire and nexus one.
[EVO 4G Android Development] -viperboy-:
verzion doesnt have a data cap on the handset, only while tethering. still unlimited browsing and data on the $30 plan.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nugzo:
cyanogenmod if you dislike sense. I like sense, and so do a lot of people. I'm pretty sure more people like sense than dislike it. My line of thinking is with a "world phone" we have a lot better chance of having the most talented people working on our phones. The N1 Dev Community is a little bigger, maybe a little better than the EVO Dev community in my opinion. When we get all these guys working on the same device, the end-user will benefit. whether its sense or aosp you prefer, there will be much more to choose from when you have more talent working on them.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Beejis:
Sorry but you're wrong, at least you are according to this story...

http://slashdot.org/story/09/11/09/068255/Verizon-Droid-Tethering-Comes-At-a-Hefty-Price

$30 for "unlimited data" but has 5gb cap

Another $30 for tethering (probably hotspot too) with also a 5gb cap
[EVO 4G Android Development] billobob:
you realize "world phones" are pretty much limited to sprint/verizon in the US? so verizons version of this phone will be somewhat different than the euro GSM desire HD, just like you cant use an AT&T touch pro2 rom on a sprint TP2 world phone.
[EVO 4G Android Development] notasimpleway:
Anyone got a link of a rar that is not password protected so I can extract it on my phone? There is no way to extract a protected rar on Android. One app claimed it could via paid version. But it isn't in the market.

Sent from my iPhone with the bigger Gee Bees.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Award Tour:
I'd like to start by saying that the Desire HD is not a HUGE leap from the EVO but it's enough of a progression for me to want one over the EVO.

The Snapdragon we have is basically the same as the one that the HD2 had since last year. We're nearing on having a CPU/GPU that is a year old. The newer one on the Desire HD solves probably the biggest disappointment with the EVO and helps on another - graphics performance (Adreno 205, 2-3x the performance) and battery life (45nm process). Then there's the RAM, 512 MB is nice but 768 MB is even nicer. The EVO is a very well thought out phone that rode out the last leg of it's generation of hardware (what was amazing at the end of 2009).

I like my EVO, I really do. I own a iPhone 4 as well but I probably use the EVO just as much (Grooveshark is amazing!). But there are some things that really bother me, like being pressured to not use live wallpapers because it bogs down the frame rate and kills the battery life.

If the Desire HD came to Sprint with 4G and with or without a front facing cam, I'd immediately sell the EVO and drop the extra $200-300 to get the Desire HD no questions asked.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Beejis:
And find out that another phone not even two months later, trumps them both. Seriously, it is not THAT much better to warrant 200-300. Unless you like switching phones every 4-5 months, stick with the EVO which is obviously only getting better with the great devs here!
[EVO 4G Android Development] nugzo:
That is kinda what we are saying/ We like changing our phones for the new technology, whether we use it or not. I can get carried away with this personaly. I love to be on the cutting edge of technology. About 5 months ago i picked up an EVGA classified, i7 920 2.66 and overclocked it to 4.5. Added 3 GTX480's in TRI-SLI and a 9800GT for phys x. I havent played a game yet. I just want the best, always. :eek::D I'm sick. Dont h8 because we want the best. :p
[EVO 4G Android Development] -viperboy-:
That article is wrong, I work for Verizon and there is no data cap on the $29.99 smartphone plan. I consistently use 7gb+ per month, and no, I don't have a special plan. It's just a regular plan with a discount on it. So you can safely switch with no cap : )
[EVO 4G Android Development] ZEDEK:
Im wondering if someone will be able to extract a signed zip of the HTC clock apk of this dump like they did over in the HTC DINC forums: http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=785645

i tried to flash it via recovery and kept getting an error code---i am dying for the flip clock animation!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] barnacles10:
YOu try just signing and flashing?

Anyone have a video of the desire? All I can find is the leaked video, and it seems you all had better ones, however, all those links earlier in this thread are 404d
[EVO 4G Android Development] danon.brown:
you must be doing something wrong i just flashed and it works perfect without any hiccups
[EVO 4G Android Development] Award Tour:
My biggest concern with the EVO is it's GPU. I already see lag in the OS UI if I push it too much (live wallpapers, 3D app drawer) and what about Gingerbread? It's supposed to bring big enhancements to the UI/UX. The original leak by Techcrunch said that the 3D gallery app is a good indicator of what's to come, and if you've been paying attention, the 3D gallery app is GPU accelerated. So it's very likely that the GPU is going to very important in Gingerbread and with it being the EVO's weakest area this could mean both lag and even poorer battery life.

As for always worrying about new phones, the Nexus One has about the same hardware (CPU/GPU/RAM) as the EVO, if I were to have own a Nexus since it's release, I would have enjoyed what would have been top performance for over half a year and probably through most what's left of this year. But we as EVO owners got tech that was, as I said, on it's last legs. I don't thinks it's out of line to want more since it was already available (albeit on unfavorable phones via the Galaxy S line) at the time of it's release. It's like getting a Macbook Pro just before Apple refreshes the line with more RAM and the newest CPU/GPU.

Since the Nexus One continues to be the official developer phone, there's still a great chance of everything running smoothly on the EVO. That is if you were wise enough to dump Sense for the much better designed and performing stock AOSP Android. Cyanogen support, the Nexus One hardware similarities, and Samsung's general record of crappiness, is what ultimately pushed me towards the EVO. So I can live with it IF it brings a smooth experience on Gingerbread. But either way, a newer HTC phone with the 2nd generation Snapdragons is still much more favorable to me and enough to make me drop the extra bread.
[EVO 4G Android Development] barnacles10:
You know where the lag is at? SENSE UI! First off, if you read more about "gingerbread" should all the "leaked ideas" truly be true, then you would know that from what it seems there will be no overlaying UI. The point of gingerbread is to bring a stock upgrade to different phones. IE, no HTC sense, no touch wiz, no blah blah blah. I highly doubt that google would release specs for a phone (1ghz processor, 512mb of ram etc etc) if it couldn't handle it. Hell they removed phones like the hero from the 2.2 upgrade line, even though I been running 2.2 FLAWLESSLY on my hero since the first leak. (aside from things like camera that took some time to fix)

I don't see what some of you want. Next year there is going to be a better phone out. After that, a better phone. And after that phone comes out, well give it time, and a better one WILL come out. Now, I don't know where you are from, and im not trying to a fanboy, but the EVO is still an amazing phone.

Personally, I read that article too "think 3d gallery". If this is true, I dont want a ui like that to be honest. What my homescreen is going to be scrollable icons that shift as I move my screen? Don't get me wrong, 3d gallery is very nice. But its nice as a gallery. If I didn't like sense ui because it was bloated, I can't even imagine what a "3d gallery like" ui would be..

None the less, I don't see why this thread of an ace dump has turned into is or is not the evo now crap basically.
[EVO 4G Android Development] toastcfh:
lets stay on topic. this thread was intended for the dump to be used/ported on the EVO. not to decide which device is better. please back on topic
[EVO 4G Android Development] Award Tour:
I run CM6 stable, not Sense, and still experience the lag with the things I noted.

As for no overlaying UIs, you're wrong. They said that the intent was to make 3.0 so good that it would discourage OEMs from making skins. You also have to remember that Android is and will probably always be open source.

Edit:

Fair enough.

I'm just checking in to see it's (Desire HD's Sense) progress. Not a fan of Sense but until if/ever CM6 implements WiMax, I'm stuck switching between the two when I need fast tethering. I also have a really great almost finished Sense theme and will probably finish once/if ever this is ported.
[EVO 4G Android Development] barnacles10:
Show me one OFFICIAL source that solidifies anything about 3.0. As far as I'm concerned its all speculation. There has been sources saying this, and sources retracting that, and claiming this, and debunking that. As far as im concerned, any of the rumors I have read DO say that gingerbread will break third party UIs. So again, if you actually have factual evidence of your claims, feel free to PM me and continue this discussion further. Hell, if you have an official google doc, I'd love to see it.

But as I said.. and toast resaid
[EVO 4G Android Development] Award Tour:
Just wanted to point you to the article which pretty much everyone referenced and made invalid/false assumptions. Read it carefully.

http://techcrunch.com/2010/06/16/android-team-laser-focused-on-the-user-experience-for-next-release/
[EVO 4G Android Development] evilecho:
Please....

Does any one if this is going to be a difficult port, giving the minor changes in hardware and Radios.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jkinnison90:
Heard any progress about this yet? I know ava said something about wait for tonight. So maybe he'll have a release?
[EVO 4G Android Development] jobryan26:
Twitter status:

followed up with:
[EVO 4G Android Development] Musician101:
Does anyone know if this will have a full bt stack? If not I may just stay with cm6...
[EVO 4G Android Development] MRFERRARI23:
I hope we really see this Desire HD software ported soon to our evo's really soon!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] -viperboy-:
Hope so too! That's the only way I will go back to Sense :p
[EVO 4G Android Development] tomh1979:
I wont mind flashing a rom sounding as good as this should, but i guess we'll see how long it takes to get it done. Figures crossed, lol.