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[Desire HD General] jhenrikj:
Recieved the following from HTC today when asking about the display

Im sorry, but as yes we have not recived any specifications on the two new models, so Im sorry but I cant answer your question.

If the specifications for the phone isn't made up yet I think we can forget to see it for another few weeks.
[Desire HD General] phunkycow:
I find it hard to believe that HTC don't know what kind of display the used on their new phones. :p

Since there is a lot of confusion already and they haven't even bothered answering straight after so many days, I know what kind of LCD I'll be expecting it to be equipped with. Personally I couldn't care less, it's not that i'm gonna be texting or browsing in a 90° angle while walking in the streets at 12pm in a sunny day.
[Desire HD General] apsis:
As i've allready written, i did also ask HTC what the Desire HD's Screen is, and they answered that it is definitly an S-LCD. And if you watch the Video i've posted in the Video-Post i guess, where the Screens from Iphone/Desire/Desire Z/Desire HD/Acer "somewhat" and HTC HD7 are compared besides, you will notice that the Desire HD's display looks pretty good near to the others, only the iPhone's Display looks better.
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
If the Desire HD has an S-LCD I will eat my own socks...eeww thats a horrible thought, not only have they changed their video but they have also changed it in their written description, if its because of copyright then why have they not changed it for the Desire Z...simply the HD has a normal screen taken from the left over evo screens, I'd bet my life on it Im that sure....I guess time will tell but I wouldn't hold your breath..

Its more likely that because the HD and the Z were announced at the same time that there was a mix up where HTC said they both had S-LCD screens and then had to edit their videos and text..

The video link on this page proves nothing what so ever.

Desire HD uses EVO LCD screen. both 4.3

Desire Z uses the new S-LCD Desire screen. both 3.7

You really think that Samsung and Sony are going to make a brand new screen just for the Desire HD
[Desire HD General] willk22:
We can hope! It is their flagship android model after all...
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
Hey I'm with you, I hope I'm wrong, I really do...time will tell I guess.
[Desire HD General] tranquility1997:
I think rixsta is right!
[Desire HD General] bratfink:
...

I dont care what it is cos it looks pretty good to me :D!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQl-8Tm9AoQ

(IP4 vs DHD)
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
Nice video, its never going to be a Galaxy S screen but its a lot better than Ive seen in the past and thought it was...having said that, its soo fast with no lag or glitches that I could see and the UI is fantastic, unlike the Galaxy S in those area's, so even with the screen Id still take the HD over Samsung and we are more likely to get gingerbread on the Desire HD than the Galaxy S thats for sure...again thanks for the Vid...nice find

Rixsta.
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
The plot thicken's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JuvacCCVXw

It this another uninformed member of staff??
[Desire HD General] apsis:
I dont know why everybody is believing that the DHD wont have an S-LCD...

I guess a few people are allready flascinated by the oversaturized Samsung Galaxy S' Display.

I watched a whole bunch of videos about the DHD,in the first ones from the Pressrelease the Display looks washed out compared to the Desire Z, but in each new Video appearing and mainly in videos with maybe the "end"-product like from solopalmari for example (other videos are nearly always recording the device from the pressrelease, but solopalmari seems to have a Desire HD which is closer to the finished Retailversion, just compare his Camerashots against the older leaked ones) it looks like the DHD and the DZ have the same Displayquality. The Displaycomparsion from Solopalmari is also pretty interessting. And also with the fact that i and a few other peoples allready asked HTC and they've clarified that the DHD has an S-LCD, some people still wont believe.

In my case, the Display looks just fine to me, like the whole Device - and i cant wait to own it. And im also pretty sure that it will have an S-LCD.
[Desire HD General] jkoljo:
Actually people are discussing at a Finnish tech site that HTC do not have licensing for the name Super LCD, so they will not use it in their press papers etc. The device will have a S-LCD screen.

Of course that is just a discussion, I do not know the actual source.
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
I would have believed that if they had dropped it from the Desire Z videos and description on the HTC website but they haven't, its only the HD, HTC just made a boo boo and then had to edit everything from S-LCD to high Res, the phones were announced at the same time and it was a mix up, its as simple as that.
[Desire HD General] mupet0000:
Can you link to where HTC say the Desire Z has SLCD?
[Desire HD General] AA--92:
I saw a vid on youtube whit a new 4,3 win 7 mobile device whit s-lcd, and the HD2.

And the HD2 screen was bad in comparison.

Sry for my bad english.
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
AAARRGGHHH, they've changed it to high res on the Desire Z video now on the HTC Website. Does this mean it will be S-LCD, now I dont know what to think..

If you hadn't of asked me I wouldn't of look for it again, I'm so sure it used to say S-LCD the same as the Desire HD video did and now they say High Res..

So maybe I have gotten it totally wrong, I was convinced that the HD was using the Evo screen.

I dont mind feeling a fool if this is the case, this could be very good news, its bugging me now and I need to know for sure :eek:
[Desire HD General] jkoljo:
Well, I think it is bugging all of us :)
[Desire HD General] WarheadNOR:
Well, seems that HTC is at least getting alot of speculation around the phone, probably what they want...
[Desire HD General] mupet0000:
This is what I was trying to point out to you. Now that the T Mobile G2 is out in America at least (Desire Z), are there any confirmations that it is SLCD?
[Desire HD General] ErMeglio:
+1 that feels bugged...the more now that I'm without a phone (rip dear N95 8gb)...
[Desire HD General] jords12:
Wow. We really arent going to know until somebody actually gets one of these, takes it apart, and tells us what it says of the back of the screen!
[Desire HD General] mupet0000:
If it's that hard to tell the difference between LCD and SLCD then I don't really mind.
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
It will be easy to spot the difference, no need to take the screen out, its weird that the few people that have had the test phone wont say what screen it has, somebody must know.
[Desire HD General] strobe_uk:
On the UK HTC website there is no mention of SLCD / S-LCD on the Desire HD, Desire Z or the Desire specification pages. Now, we know the existing Desire has an S-LCD but it's not stated as such on the spec page. So, what can we conclude?

Either ...

a) HTC are now no longer using SLCD / S-LCD screens

or

b) The comments regarding SLCD / S-LCD name licensing are true and the new models do in fact have SLCD / S-LCD screens!

Any screen will be better than my current crapberry so I'm happy to wait for my new HD to arrive!
[Desire HD General] tranquility1997:
Anything I can say????????Just now I got the feedback from HTC UK that the screen is as he said to be:

"Display Type S-LCD capacitive touch screen, 16M colours This has come from a 3rd part source by the way so you will need to wait for the phone to be released for this to be officially verified."

So I think we have no choice but wait for the result......

Anyway, I will have it in my hand soon and surely I like it for its further services from HTC.com and HTCsense.com
[Desire HD General] pp18:
i'm sad to share this news with all of you: i believe that it's normal TFT, not S-LCD.

i mailed HTC HK, quoting the URL of their press release in the Asia Pacific website:

http://www.htc.com/asia/press.aspx?id=146350&lang=1033

several days ago, it still read:

"HTC Desire HD showcases outstanding multimedia content with its bright 4.3” Super LCD display..."

probably due to my inquiry, now the same press release has been revised to:

"HTC Desire HD showcases outstanding multimedia content with its bright 4.3” TFT display..."

i also read another article from a Taiwan forum of similar situation. the author called up HTC Taiwan asking the same question and the answer was "it's LCD, the same screen as HD2."

i really like the Desire HD, just except the screen. a headache to me: buy or not buy? :confused:
[Desire HD General] tranquility1997:
However, we got twice confirmation that it's SLCD from Handtec as bellow by clicking"Product Q and A":

http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/3564/htc-desire-hd--android--sim-free-unlocked--dark-brown-
[Desire HD General] pp18:
please be aware that handtec is just a reseller, while obviously HTC is editing their website to purposely remove the word "Super LCD". unless the hardware spec for goods in Europe market and those in Asia market are different, i'd believe that earlier the sales just mixed up the spec of Desire HD and Z.

good luck if you've pre-ordered one. ;P
[Desire HD General] eboni:
Just looked on HTC's facebook page, looks like it is lcd......

*le sigh*

Edit: even my fingers still want it to be slcd so had to remove the extra 's'
[Desire HD General] madindehead:
Well, the original Desire HD video mentioned Super LCD, but as it is a Sony technology, they had to remove the information.

Go check GSMArena, they mention Super LCD.
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
Latest news but not 100% confirmed yet.

This is the HTC touch HD which has 480 x 800 high res lcd screen (left)

Now look at the new Desire HD with 480 x 800 high res S-LCD screen ?

It looks much brighter and the colours look much better..

http://www.finalcity.com/dhd/4.JPG
[Desire HD General] daijoubu:
According to CNET Asia:

http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/mobilephones/0,39051200,45305089p,00.htm

"The WVGA (800 x 480-pixel) 4.3-inch screen is one of the largest you can get for any mobile phone. Like the latest batch of HTC Desire devices, this utilizes Sony's Super LCD (SLCD) rather than Samsung's AMOLED technology."

BAM!
[Desire HD General] Gig11gs:
:cool::cool::cool:
[Desire HD General] adwinp:
I have seen references to sony's wvga screen in G2 source.

We'll know for sure once DHD's source is out, or if you get your hands on a servicing manual, or if you disassemble the unit.
[Desire HD General] Dentisst:
Can you link it. I can't find where it says about the screen.
[Desire HD General] DarrenT:
they said LCD then me and others questioned why some people were told SLCD. now they are going to get more info and let us know today.

http://www.facebook.com/htcuk/posts/161836427179180?il=0&notif_t=feed_comment_reply
[Desire HD General] oprisnik:
Reply from the HTC facebook channel:

HTC UK:

I have been told directly by the product team that the Desire HD has an LCD screen. We are looking into the incorrect information given by Customer Services as a matter of priority and apologise for any confusion. We're also contacting sites we see publishing the incorrect information. The original press release states it is an LCD screen: http://www.htc.com/uk/press.aspx?id=144266&lang=1033
[Desire HD General] daijoubu:
Their South East Asia press release stated SLCD but now is has changed into TFT. I'm guessing its really just regular TFT.
[Desire HD General] fridaycider:
phones4u say it's a amoled screen.They have really got it wrong.

http://www.phones4u.co.uk/shop/shop_contract_details.asp?ItemKey=421508&intcid=htcdesirehd_banner
[Desire HD General] combat goofwing:
replay on htc facebook says its LCD not S-LCD

http://www.facebook.com/htcuk/posts/161836427179180?il=0&notif_t=feed_comment_reply
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
Whatever it is, its the best LCD I have ever seen so who cares :D
[Desire HD General] jhenrikj:
It's an LCD equal to the S-LCD but since S-LCD is a companyname it can't be called that. It might still be as good or even better. The S in S-LCD is only a name, not a standard. There is no definition thar says Super-LCD is that or that, so an ordinary LCD from e.g. LG might be better even if it's called D-LCD (Disastrous LCD ;=) )
[Desire HD General] daijoubu:
Bad news guys. I think this is the final nail in the coffin for those that are hopeful for a SLCD on a Desire HD.

http://mytechnews.info/b/2010/10/update-htc-desire-hd-desire-z-htcsense-com-htcsense.html

Still, doesn't mean that its a bad screen :).
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
Ive had the phone in my hand...its a very nice screen indeed
[Desire HD General] zen123:
Got my DHD today compared the screen to my standard Desire that has SLCD. The colours on the DHD screen are definately not as vivid & the blacks aren't as black. The colours are a bit washed out. I'm 99% sure its not SLCD. Thats not to say its a bad screen, its just not as good as I would expect.
[Desire HD General] Hoodeddeathman:
Can't we just argue about this when it actually ships and you actually have something to go off? My dog says it's an SLCD so it must be, all good and well people are telling you what it is and isn't, right now I'm 50/50 maybe you're all wrong and its an SSLCD (Semi Super) I'm sure now I read a Chinese web page that said so.

EDIT - In fact no, it is super, because I think it is.
[Desire HD General] ll_l_x_l_ll:
that kinda sucks.. :/
[Desire HD General] dai_griff:
Don't listen the screen is amazing,really is well well happy.

Sitting Manchester airport T1 enjoying a beer and the best phone I have yet owned.

Well happy

Dave
[Desire HD General] gwud:
I've just got the DHD, coming from an AMOLED Desire and I must say I'm impressed with the screen. It's clear and bright and easier to read in the sun than the desire. The viewing angles aren't great, I did like that the Desire could be seen from really random angles, but as most of the time I use the phone face on, it won't be a problem. I thought with the screen being bigger than the dersire, the image would be more noticeably pixelated, but I can't say that it it.

Overall I'm impressed, which is good as I was worried about the screen before I got it.

No idea what type of screen it is, but it's not bad no matter what.
[Desire HD General] kingcedz:
dont really know what's the big deal about SLCD.

What I can say is my DesireHD display definitely matches my iPhone4 retina display, and to me that's a good benchmark and more than sufficient.
[Desire HD General] gwud:
I had the iPhone4 before the desire and I wouldst say the desire HD screen is better. The iPhone had excellent viewing angles and even really small text was crisp and readable. Though it didn't much matter to me.
[Desire HD General] Spaky:
Hi, would like to know, in normal usage (front viewing not at angles) how good is it compared to iPhone4? What about colors and text quality? Tnx
[Desire HD General] gwud:
Hi

I think in terms of sharpness the iPhone4 is better, but that's not to say that the DHD is bad, the text is smooth and doesnt look pixelated at all, I don't feel like I'm looking at a worse screen with the DHD. Colours aremore natural on the DHD which I prefer to the iPhone.
[Desire HD General] Spaky:
Thanks! It's what I would like to ear from you, having also played with an iPhone4 for a while, I've noticed that it has a blue-dominant compared to other display.

But maybe this is only my taste...:confused:

Anyway looking forward to grab DHD as soon as possible.
[Desire HD General] Pottsy:
Comparison of an AMOLED Desire and the DHD:

(If someone else could copy and paste the code below removing the spaces first then this will work - I don't have the permissions to do this yet :rolleyes:)

[IMG]h t t p://i54.tinypic.com/15q3qbn.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]h t t p://i56.tinypic.com/2k101j.jpg[/IMG]
[Desire HD General] xspyda:
Great pics, thanks!

These also serve to show a comparison of size between the HD and the standard Desire. I thought there was a massive difference but looking at this it may not be the case?

http://i54.tinypic.com/15q3qbn.jpg

http://i56.tinypic.com/2k101j.jpg
[Desire HD General] SupremeBeaver:
wow that's amazing! The screen's look a lot closer than other's led on. And the DHD isnt that much bigger dimension wise even though it has a much bigger screen. Great post!
[Desire HD General] ErMeglio:
Thanks for the pic, they're assuring. Just today I was in the store looking at the differences between a Desire screen (don't really know if it was amoled or slcd) and an HD2 screen and I must admit there's not so a big difference between them too. I've set them to maximum brightness to see the same result, because strangely the Desire was already having auto brightness off and maximum settings and the hd2 had the auto on...I was firstly scared in fact :)

However the viewing angle is still much better on the Desire, and I think that's why these photos make the dhd look fine: I feel like they are done more from the front of the dhd than not from the center of the two phones.

Anyway I think it will not be a matter at all!
[Desire HD General] hamdir:
your not noticing much pixel difference coming from amoled since the amoled desire has a virtual pixel density to begin with, at it worst the desire amoled was 205dpi at its best it was 252dpi, the desire HD is 217dpi hence its better in some situations (like reading text)

however the SLCD desire is much sharper against the amoled desire i think i would notice the difference while the iphone 4 is even better

of course both SLCD and amoled offers better viewing angels and blacks when compared to DHD

however looking at the above pics i have to say im impressed i expected worse :D its obviously better then the HD2

by the way engadget discuss this too in the DHD review http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/27/htc-desire-hd-review/
[Desire HD General] SupremeBeaver:
yay engadget's review is finally out! off to read :p
[Desire HD General] ErMeglio:
I've just seen and read it and I don't really understand why they do that strange assertions about multitasking. Correct me if I'm wrong, I think most of the comments about it are right?! It's not an Android fault, but if we want there could be specific app faults if they use heavily the system when unused. I also believe it's true that Android is able to freeze/toggle all the resources to an hidden app if a newer one needs resources. Is this true, isn't it?

Please comment on this, I'm so curious :)
[Desire HD General] hamdir:
the reviewer is just stupid and ill informed, its clear he is not tech savvy, android multitasking beats WM6 and IOS but you find him nagging about it instead of praising it on a system with abundance of RAM :confused:
[Desire HD General] ErMeglio:
I've just found this link http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/04/multitasking-android-way.html on another thread and it explains how all works wonderfully for someone like me who doesn't have an idea and...wow...it sounds GREAT!!!! How can a website like engadget do stupid errors like that? Don't they even bother to read how a system works before blaming it that way? This kinda sucks...
[Desire HD General] lumpaywk:
i hope te new sense will be coming to the old desire i love the idea of the maps being cached, though tbh not sure it worry's me to much as i'm thinking i will jump ship once the hd3 comes along (loving the windows phone 7 look, just like my zune) :)
[Desire HD General] ruleamsterdam:
brut maps already does that, worldwide too ;)
[Desire HD General] speedking34:
I'm betting on the clever devs to port the Desire HD rom to the Desire once it leaks :D
[Desire HD General] :
Is there a confirmed spec sheet out yet? I want to pull one to the US and run it on AT&T...
[Desire HD General] -A-P-M-:
I think I will skip this phone. I don't need 4.3" screen, current Desire's 3.7" is enough. I will rather wait a few more months for next gen. phones with Android 3.0 in dual core processors - maybe N1 successor. :)
[Desire HD General] elmalote:
Anyone have specs and comparison of the new 8255 processor vs the current Desire's 8250 processor?
[Desire HD General] onesolo:
I would like to know this too...
[Desire HD General] SupremeBeaver:
The MSM8x55 chipset platform consists of the MSM8255™ and MSM8655™ and features a newly designed and optimized multimedia sub-system over previous Snapdragon generations.

Scorpion 1 GHz CPU

Integrated 3G mobile broadband connectivity

MSM8255 support for HSPA+ networks – up to14 Mbps downloads and 5.76 Mbps uploads

MSM8655 support for HSPA+ networks – up to 14.4 Mbps downloads and 5.76 Mbps uploads – as well as CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO Rel 0/A/B

Low-power 45nm process technology for higher integration and performance

High-definition (720p) video recording and playback up to 30 frames per second

Multiple video codecs: (MPEG-4, MPEG-2, H.264, H.263, VC-1, DivX, DivX 3.11, Sorenson Spark, On2 VP6)

High-performance GPU - up to 41M triangles/sec and 245M 3D pixels/se with dedicated 2D Open VG graphics hardware

High-resolution up to XGA (1024x768) display support

12-megapixel camera support

Built-in eighth-generation gps engine with Standalone-GPS and Assisted-GPS modes

Support for Wi-Fi® and Bluetooth® connectivity

Multiple audio codecs: (AAC+, eAAC+, AMR, FR, EFR, HR, WB-AMR, G.729a, G.711, AAC stereo encode)

Support for mobile broadcast TV (MediaFLO™, DVB-H and ISDB-T)

Support for Android™, Brew® Mobile Platform and Windows® Phone

Taken from http://www.qualcomm.com/products_services/chipsets/snapdragon.html

Things to note, it is pretty much the same Snapdragon running on the G2 (Desire Z) but clocked at 1ghz rather than 800mhz. Also it has the new Adreno 205 GPU!! This phone is going to be awesome! It also uses 45nm technology which makes it more power efficient. This explains why HTC ended up using a 1200mA battery. HTC say the battery lasts 20% longer than current devices.

here's full specs for those interested.

http://android.modaco.com/content/a...-the-desire-hd-formerly-known-as-the-htc-ace/

And as for the comparison i put together this chart with my questionable MS paint skills :P
[Desire HD General] loocas:
Android port from Desire HD to HD2

Are there any plans or even a possibility to port the OS of Desire HD to the HTC HD2 (Leo)? I'd love to get rid of the WM 6.5.x and try Android for a change, since I really like the HW part of the phone, but hate the OS.
[Desire HD General] hoss_n2:
i think it will be much more laggy due to the hardware limitation in hd2 gpu (22M tir/sec vs 41M tri/sec )
[Desire HD General] loocas:
Ah... that sucks :(

I was hoping to finally get some good OS for my HD2, which I don't want to throw away, but the WinMo 6.x I've got there are so bad I can't stand it any more. :(
[Desire HD General] dik23:
+1, who cares about the screen when the rest is the same
[Desire HD General] hoss_n2:
you didn't understand my joke :D, the desire hd os if ported to the hd2 it willnot be laggy like i said , i was only jocking current android builds doesn't support gpu so all are the same , but it will differ when android 3.0 is released but also not too much
[Desire HD General] loocas:
Great! So there is still hope! :)
[Desire HD General] loocas:
In that case, could you, please, point me to a really well done, bug-free, Android port for HD2? I'd certainly appretiate that. :) Thanks a lot in advance!
[Desire HD General] hoss_n2:
try mattc 1.7 or froyostone in the android development section @hd2 forum
[Desire HD General] loocas:
Thank you very much for the tip, I'll check it out.

Cheers...
[Desire HD General] BuzzFuzz:
I would like to see Desire HD in white colour. Any infos about that?
[Desire HD General] jack_65:
malaysia only do not know when anything extraordinary slow:eek:
[Desire HD General] dani31:
The Desire HD is the next gen. phone, the first to use the 1ghz 45nm SoC and the new adreno 205 gpu. Performance will be 2 to 4 times higher than the old Desire, battery performance 20% better.

And don't lie to yourself, 4.3" means 35% more screen estate than 3.7", while maintaining a dpi >200. It is a world of difference if you ever consider web browsing.
[Desire HD General] onesolo:
One may never know, hope is the last thing to die lolol

Still I prefer to hope HTC 1 prototype to come to live one day...