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[Epic 4G Android Development] richse:
I'm confused, it had always seemed like Tha Boss Rom was from Kyle and a couple people were helping him. What specifically happened that has caused this rift and you to suspect that Kyle stole all the credit?
[Epic 4G Android Development] hehehe23:
Here's the buddies now **** man http://db.tt/XTp57jT
[Epic 4G Android Development] rjmjr69:
He decided that there was an I in TEAM and make it his own. the original BOSS rom was worthless more problems than we could solve so we started with a FRESH base "thanks noobnl" And Kyle was still a team member but STOLE the incomplete rom and tried to pass it off as his own work....
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
I joined "Team Boss" after V.03 was released, but as far as I understand it, Kyle has never been much of a dev. Essentially, he was releasing buggy amalgamations of others' work, and expecting the other members of his "team" to test for him as he did not have a device. I, after joining, began examining the ROM to see how best to fix the extant bugs - but soon discovered it was too much of a buggy mess to be worth fixing, and began from stock deodexed DI18 (again, thanks noobnl) instead. Rob (rjmjr69), I, and the rest of the team then decided to abandon Boss altogether, and release, once we felt ready, our work as an entirely new product. I took over as lead dev.

We gave Kyle the chance to rejoin with the understanding that he would no longer be even a figurehead, and that as every speck of Boss was gone in the product as it was and is, Boss would be no more. He pretended to agree. However, he never contributed. I and the team members who work on the kernel continued as normal, and I released, privately as with all the previous, what you saw here. Kyle, ten days later, proceeded to release it here, with his name in build.prop, two animation sets removed, and some extra ringtones. There was not one bit of his work in it, he had already been entirely removed from the team (which was not - and had not been for some time - even remotely "his" - even when "Team Boss" still existed, the lead was rjmjr69).

If you or anyone else needs concrete proof, please PM Robert or I. We'd be happy to show you quite a bit.

EDIT: And thanks for the feedback guys, I've already put Buddies Now into our next beta. :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] flyers2114:
This is very very sad.....I look forward to the teams upcoming work!
[Epic 4G Android Development] specialk0324:
Yes!!! I really wanted that buddies now...thx
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
Thanks for the support - and to anyone else who's supported the true developers here.

I encourage anyone who may have donated for the ersatz "release" of "V.04" to request a refund and/or file a dispute with PayPal. The XDA administrative team is already aware of all the issues here including that of donations.

EDIT: I'll reiterate - the ROM that my team and I are still actively developing has nothing whatsoever to do with "Boss ROM". It will not be called "Boss ROM" or anything even similar.
[Epic 4G Android Development] ragnarokx:
Is this just a stand-alone of the TouchWiz widget, or is it something else?
[Epic 4G Android Development] rjmjr69:
We thank everyone for their support. The pm's and posts both positive and negative have truly inspired us to work even harder to get the TEAM ROM released to the public.

The TEAM as well as the ROM are still yet to be named. I would like to offer $20 to the person who can come up with an awesome new name.

We would like to incorporate the letter S into the rom name to flow with the GalaxyS name. I will start a new thread and link to it from here... pm me or wait to post in the new thread.

Thanks again everyone,

Rjmjr69

sent from my epic running the... .........,

As stated here is the independent thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=820461
[Epic 4G Android Development] volkly:
Can't wait!!!

How bout "SOLARIS"? if i win, i'll donate it back to you guys!
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
http://www.oracle.com/solaris

Oracle is already suing Google over their use of Java, we don't need to violate their trademarks too. ;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] volkly:
LOL, i was waiting for the officail thread =) to come up with another name
[Epic 4G Android Development] rjmjr69:
Damn lawyers why do they exist??? lol

Here wait no longer

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=820461

Very generous of you thank you here is the link

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=820461
[Epic 4G Android Development] omair2005:
man i didn't know this was all happening...i just deleted the link.
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
Thank you!
[Epic 4G Android Development] ggoldfingerd:
Well I look forward to seeing what the new team comes up with.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Zeinzu:
Whoever said to take the link down for "stolen" work, this is open source development, once u posted ur rom on one of these sites its technically no longer ur right to say whether or not the work can be used or not, more then half of what goes into a rom isn't urs to begin with, even if u built from source ur still using components from other phones, other developement, kernel builders works, samsungs base programming, just sayin, if that's how u feel go work for apple, they are right up ur alley

Sent from my Epic 4g
[Epic 4G Android Development] DevinXtreme:
You don't understand at all...

This isn't a case of someone using a parts of a ROM or taking things from something else and building something on his own from other pieces. Someone else built this ROM and everything in it and Kyle released it as his own. Kyle did NOTHING to the ROM that was released.

Open source is a community effort meant to progress and build. Theft is just as unacceptable in this realm as it is any other. Even the GPL states that you're supposed to give credit where credit is due, which is what every last piece of all of this is licensed under. Just because it says "open source" doesn't mean that there aren't rules involved.
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
This was not posted publicly in any way. It was released as a private beta to a team that has, had nothing to do with Kyle, who chose to take the entire package and release it en masse as his product.

Review the GPL:

Also note that the GPL allows for additional licensing provisions including:

IANAL, but my team and I included this de facto in our terms of use.

But this is not an issue of GPL licensing. It's a simple ethical issue: Kyle took a large package, unmodified save restoring stock ringtones, deleting two ringtones, and changing the name and claimed it as his own.

It is also a violation of XDA forum rules.
[Epic 4G Android Development] westicle:
Wow what a thread. I hope all you epic users get a good group of devs (i know u have some) and the phone can be made what it should have been. Too much infighting can ruin a good forum, and theft of others work is inexcusable. This is open source, but not necessarily open season on others; especially without giving credit to the fine folks who help us all out by creating what we can't, or won't do for our phones. And the dude who stole is a turd, and some advice is that if u feel the need to donate, donate to the site itself or to devs that are reputable already, not some jackass who releases one incomplete ROM, then asks for your cheddar.
[Epic 4G Android Development] infamousjax:
well look at the bright side here folks. out of the kindness of your hearts, you gave your hard-earned cash to Kyle Cole so he could have a brand new awesome phone. Glad to see someone benefited :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] bobdude5:
I've been on deal for 8 phones and I have never seen so much drama as I have on the epic 4g forum..
[Epic 4G Android Development] ravizzle:
Epic drama? Lol

Sent from my Epic 4G
[Epic 4G Android Development] egzthunder1:
Guys, I will close this thread as we will review the circumstances and will investigate the ownership of the original work. Also, since the OP has decided to remove the work from the first post, this thread will only be used to fuel fires (or so it has been for the last few pages).

Thread closed until further notice.
[Epic 4G Android Development] plmiller0905:
How long did it take to reboot?
[Epic 4G Android Development] DevinXtreme:
If you look at an odexed ROM's /system/app folder, you'll notice that every app has two files. We'll use Asphalt as an example, so you'll have Asphalt5.apk and Asphalt5.odex. The odex file is like an index for a library. It technically makes the apps run a lot faster, but at the cost of a lot of space. The speed increase is hardly worth it.

When a dev deodexes a ROM, he combines the apk and odex files all into one apk. This is an incredibly time consuming process to do manually, but I've heard of it being possible to do with an app... Never attempted it myself.

I don't totally understand it myself, but this is how (kind of) it was explained to me.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Mk4UmHa:
After I installed this ROM, first thing I did was change launcher to Launcher Pro. I downloaded it and launched it. Then the whole screen blacked out, i thought it was screwed. After 15-20s or so it rebooted back into the original launcher. So I went and installed Home Switcher and set launcher pro as default. Then launched it. After that, it has been working without a single reboot.

I am running ebuddy, tasker, quick settings, beautiful widgets, system panel, galaxy core. Compared to the stock release running the same programs, this one is WAY more responsive.

BTW, I did not restore ANY system backups from the Titanium.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Mk4UmHa:
That's more info that I've found on my own. Thanks!
[Epic 4G Android Development] Mk4UmHa:
Is there a reason why Launcher Pro Calendar won't sync with my Gmail calendar? Is it because this release removed one of those calendar programs that launcherpro might be using?
[Epic 4G Android Development] DevinXtreme:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=782496

Follow that thread. AOSP Calendar is excellent.
[Epic 4G Android Development] flyers2114:
This is excellent feedback to keep the cook motivated.....what help you are to the community....
[Epic 4G Android Development] onilink67:
Thanks for the tip mine would never launch again after a reboot so I reflashed the rom and installed Home Switcher then Launcher Pro. Home button still wouldn't work so I restarted after setting Launcher Pro as default and everything works great.
[Epic 4G Android Development] plmiller0905:
I'm going to try this out...hopefully it works. I'll report back.

**Update** Yup it works...thanks
[Epic 4G Android Development] InfDaMarvel:
I didnt see any pics anywhere, and whats are reports on the battery life using this Rom?
[Epic 4G Android Development] jeremyglass:
So is this the updated Version 1? or Version 2? I was following the other thread but this one was updated today....Also does anyone have screen shots?

Thanks
[Epic 4G Android Development] DevinXtreme:
I'll post some screen shots when I get home.

I've been off the plug for an hour-and-a-half and only a 2% drain. I think this ROM is gonna do it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] plmiller0905:
That sounds good for battery life. I'm gonna reinstall my apps and rock this rom today at work. If it can last at least 8 hours it'll be great, but if it can last longer than that...it'll be EPIC...lol
[Epic 4G Android Development] richse:
Was that on 3G, 4G, or wifi? My battery life is fine on 4G and wifi, but 3G drain is horrible so I'd be interested if this rom helped with that problem.
[Epic 4G Android Development] DevinXtreme:
Well, nothing, technically. I use JuiceDefender. I use Wi-Fi when I'm home, but I'm not now, so 3G. Very limited 4G in my area (great in the metro areas, but suburbs... ick), so I just don't use it and I haven't had time to test to see if leaving it on really does help battery life. But I'm seeing improvements over stock and Andromeda Galaxy with my current set up.
[Epic 4G Android Development] enter260:
infamous jax is just a douche that likes to troll this thread.
[Epic 4G Android Development] ranchosteve:
This rom is great, I've had my phone off the charger for about 4 hours with light use, the battery meter hasent even gone down.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Mk4UmHa:
You should install BattStatt to get a more accurate battery reading.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Vertig0:
How can I fix Wifi & Wired Tether FC?

TIA!
[Epic 4G Android Development] rjmjr69:
WOW Awesome Kyle thank you so very much for your hard work. Im so glad I waited for this it was well worth it. It has a few flaws here and there but I know for FACT you will work them out.

I just sent a donation that should get you a step closer to getting your own Epic so we can have some seriously fast updates!!!

Oh and thank you for the opportunity to beta test the roms. its been a pleasure to help find these bugs
[Epic 4G Android Development] KyleCole90:
WOW holy ish thats allot... Im def getting closer and SAVING to get an epic. Thanks alot man!!!
[Epic 4G Android Development] harrybozack:
After my first full day of fairly heavy use on the NoTouchWiz rom, I have to say I see a definite improvement. Very very substantial for me.

Great work Kyle!
[Epic 4G Android Development] Vertig0:
anyone :confused:
[Epic 4G Android Development] KyleCole90:
Try clearing the cache in the apps

settings/applications/manage applications/wireless tether
[Epic 4G Android Development] jeremyglass:
screen shots?
[Epic 4G Android Development] vashht:
First off I want to say this ROM works great for a while, but after a short amount of time it craps out on me.

I've reinstalled it 3 times and it does the same each time. I came from the DI07 firmware, after i flash it works great, everything opens faster and the capacitive face buttons seem a lot more responsive. After a little while though I notice the home button stops working, it registers presses but it doesn't do anything. Then I tried restarting and my phone just boots through the galaxy S screen but then hangs at a black screen after that. I tried downloading the ROM again but that ended up the same way.
[Epic 4G Android Development] NeeceeBabe:
Sighs....

So many mixed experiences with this Rom, totally on the fence.
[Epic 4G Android Development] DevinXtreme:
Did you clear data and cache when installing? Are you using a different launcher?
[Epic 4G Android Development] koolhand79:
Is it me or is wireless tether not in the manage applications section?

Sent from a mighty EPIC 4G using xda app
[Epic 4G Android Development] DevinXtreme:
When you get to manage applications, press menu -> Filter -> "All"

It's a system app, not a downloaded app.
[Epic 4G Android Development] kpkimmel:
so many problems, what do you expect from someone making roms WITHOUT THE PHONE! nuf said..peace.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Vertig0:
thanks for taking the time, I did it but both of them still FC'ing, everything else works perfect.
[Epic 4G Android Development] puppetmstr:
At least he his helping the epic community... we only have 2 roms available and I wish I knew as much as noob and kyle so at least I can start development on one. but I have no idea where to start.

Thanks for giving us another rom at least.
[Epic 4G Android Development] koolhand79:
If u have titanium backup you can uninstall the app and then reinstall it. That got it going for me. I havent tried that with wired tether but it worked with wireless
[Epic 4G Android Development] lawtalking:
calendar app

Just flashed and I noticed that my calendar app is gone. How can I replace it with either the stock calendar app or otherwise? This is the first time I have used a custom rom so I am not sure what to do.

Also, I see that version 2 is coming this weekend. When I flash the new one do I need to wipe data and cache before flashing the new one?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Mk4UmHa:
That's interesting, i haven't had problems with this ROM, in fact I picked it over n00bNL because he stripped alot of the programs including TW. Did you wipe data and cache before flashing this rom? I also wouldn't restore backup data from another version of app. I didn't do that and I have had zero problems aside from the USB tether where it says there's no support for it. LOL. Oh, and I had to put the AOSP Calendar on in order to sync with my Gmail calendar. Wireless tethering works!
[Epic 4G Android Development] DevinXtreme:
Been discussed. V.02 will have AOSP calendar. Go to the apps section of the Epic forum and follow the AOSP guide for now.
[Epic 4G Android Development] wjohnson1186:
I am all up for trying all these different roms out, but this one annoyed me.

Home button wouldn't work. Wifi tether forced closed too many times. Couldn't change home launcher to launcher pro. Market forced closed everytime I tried to download something after launcher pro. Keep working on it and I can say I will try again.

Rock out.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Fidelio_o:
Awesome rom so far, Only have one issue at the moment, Which for me is huge, I cant send any MMS messages at all, I can receive them fine, but I cant send them. Any help on this?
[Epic 4G Android Development] rjmjr69:
I've had a few assorted issues.

But did notice that coming from noobnl's rom and wiping davik then flashing boss rom everything seems to run much better.....

Keep at it Kyle its frustrating but it will just make it all that much easier for you when you do get a phone
[Epic 4G Android Development] lordcyrus:
What happened to laptop mode? :(
[Epic 4G Android Development] KyleCole90:
It was causing alot of bugs that were unnecessary. Once i have a phone that will be my main project to get working right : )
[Epic 4G Android Development] JustinLoe:
could you add the music player from galaxy s with equilizer and video player
[Epic 4G Android Development] vashht:
Yeah I tried wiping data abd cache each time, it seemed like I would start getting problems when I would start usng the market at all, if I get time today ill try it again and see.
[Epic 4G Android Development] lawsofpower48:
wow seriously..i started reading from page 1....and ppl have been asking for a screenshot, but there isnt ONE SINGLE post of it?!
[Epic 4G Android Development] vashht:
What do you want screens of, it just looks stock but with the standard android launcher.
[Epic 4G Android Development] bigroof:
This rom is amazing. My only issue is when I push the power button it does not go into sleep.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Fidelio_o:
Again I cant send any MMs with this rom, Can anyone help me out with this? I reflashed back to stock and it works fine, I flashed Andromedias rom and it works fine, But I cant send any MMs with this rom, so im guessing it might be an app that was deleted or network setting.
[Epic 4G Android Development] vashht:
So I tried flashing this rom again and I ran into the same problem. After flashing it works great but as soon as I dl a few apps from the market the home button stops working and then things start to move a lot slower and then if I power down my phone will not boot anymore.

I wiped data and cache and the delvik cache before flashing, I'm not sure if its some app I'm installing that's causing this instability, I didn't try any other launchers though.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Vertig0:
I cant send MMS either also cant update my profile... I used Odin, went back to stock and started fresh.
[Epic 4G Android Development] 1NfE5T:
Yep same thing that's happening here with me. I got all my apps in order, then started to slow down then went to sleep but my buttons stayed on. Then wouldn't boot anymore.....so now I just installed LauncherPro. That's it.....ima stay this way til a fix comes with the v.2
[Epic 4G Android Development] specialk0324:
hmm......ive had this rom for a few days now and so far no probs.....just and FYI, i put this with mixup kernel and it seems amazing (well, to me anyways)

cant wait until v2 kyle.....
[Epic 4G Android Development] Vertig0:
For those having problems getting LauncherPro to work, do the following...

Install LancherPro

Go to settings>applications>manage apps> press menu>filter>all and look for com.sec.android.app.twlauncher you can either clear defaults or uninstall.

Next time you press home you will get to choose...

I think com.sec.android.app.twlauncher was left there by mistake?
[Epic 4G Android Development] dalvarez7:
I followed your instructions but didn't see com.sec.android.app.twlauncher. I'm rebooting the phone and checking again...
[Epic 4G Android Development] lawsofpower48:
ah ok...i thought it would look different too...nvm then
[Epic 4G Android Development] thebluewonderland:
Currently running this with [KERNEL] Stoopid Fast, runs great so far, better than it did with Noobl's Kernal (no offence to noobl)
[Epic 4G Android Development] Vertig0:
Added:

Astro File Manager

Wireless Tether

Wired Tether

Custom Kernel *Props to noobnl
[Epic 4G Android Development] Mk4UmHa:
I suddenly had black screens after I did the Launcher Pro update last night. I tried to reinstall .1 over again, then updated the Launcher Pro, same thing. I did not restore any saved data from Titanium Backup either. Any one else have this same problem?
[Epic 4G Android Development] onilink67:
read the thread its been discussed many times. there are a few ways around it the one I did was install home switcher and set launcher pro as default then restart. Everything is working perfect now that I did that.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Mk4UmHa:
I was the one that suggested using home switcher. I also redid a clean install of the rom and had issues, even with home switcher. The screen blanks out before I can do anything. I am now using noobnl's rom with no issues.
[Epic 4G Android Development] onilink67:
So order I did it in again may be the key install Home Switcher, Install Launcher Pro, Verify Home key doesn't work, Open Home Switcher, Set Launcher Pro as default, reboot, grab a sammich.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Mk4UmHa:
I tried that twice... reinstalled to stock OS using Odin, etc...

Both times I got black screen with the new version of Launcher Pro. It was fine with 7.8.1 of LP.
[Epic 4G Android Development] onilink67:
I just tried upgrading to the new version and was able to replicate your problem. You are correct seems there is an issue with the new version I may play around with it for a bit. Do you have the a copy of 7.8.1? I have one saved if you need it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Mk4UmHa:
Sending PM
[Epic 4G Android Development] sdotkumar:
Perhaps you aren't doing it correctly, I attempted it my first time a few moments ago and was able to install it correctly. Here's a more elaborate explanation.

-Turn off your wifi (so you dont download launcherpro too quickly)

-install home switcher

-open it once just to check it, but then exit/kill the task

-go back to market, press install and then press home to get out of market

-open your applications folder, have it at the page/icon for homeswitcher, wait for the notification bar to say "launcherpro has finished installing"

-open the homeswitcher and set launcherpro to default

-press home to exit, should lag for a moment while switching the tasks but should work from there on

[edit] oops, i forgot to mention you should reboot at this point so the launchers don't conflict. (I noticed before I rebooted the home button didn't work)

Basically by having it ready to open you avoid pressing home in between the completion of the installation and the process to return to the homeswitcher and change them. :eek:
[Epic 4G Android Development] rjmjr69:
Damn loving this rom. Thanks Bro

Due for another donation thanks again

r12309875883453
[Epic 4G Android Development] casual864:
How is the battery life with this rom?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Mk4UmHa:
OK, I downloaded the newer .1 version which includes the n00bnl kernel, installed it, home switcher and latest version of launcher pro. The home button wouldn't work correctly for me either. Then I set LP as Default under Home switcher, Powered off the phone, turned it back on and viola, everything works again.

Nice, i like this rom much better, it feels alot quicker.
[Epic 4G Android Development] ranchosteve:
Been on this rom since the day it came out, love it so far.