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[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joewhispers:
Hello community,

I couldn't find any info through the Search, so I was hoping someone could let me know if a rooted Nexus One for T-Mobile would work on AT&T. I have the unlocked bootloader, custom recovery image and ROM, the whole 9 yards, but what I don't have is the understanding about GSM networks and how the modifications I made to my phone affect the cross-network compatibility.

Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks guys.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drewzee:
The two models operate on different gsm bands. An unrooted t-mobile n1 will work on att, but only on edge..
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ztm.000:
They are ALL sold unlocked in the states.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] k0shi:
True but there's 2 different unlocked versions and what the guy above you said is true.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Branden10:
Rooting should have no affect on it.

And if its the TMO version of the phone you will only have 2g (edge) on ATT. Seeing as both networks use different frequencies. And the cellular antenna will only be tuned to pick up 3g+ signals from TMOs frequencies.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ztm.000:
You are so painfully incorrect. At&t has no presence on this phone. Get your facts right before you post here.

a T-Mobile Nexus One wont work on at&t's 3G network. Only on edge. Rooting has no effect.

Now close the thread.
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
Source: http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/22/sony-ericssons-ceo-promises-big-surprises-in-the-next-few-mont/

That jackass... you want to bet they are officially announcing no more updates for X10 after this year :p
[XPERIA X10 General] kloud_:
well i read somewhere yesterday that SE is planning to provide updates to the X10 throughout its lifespan so that the phone is not antiquated easily.:rolleyes:

now i wonder what is the lifespan of x10 according to SE..!!:confused:
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
Maybe this is where they announce the release of a future device with a new design and actual up to date software?
[XPERIA X10 General] tigger69:
Yes its going to be called the psphone :p
[XPERIA X10 General] Nimche:
Grand opening and he is drunk?
[XPERIA X10 General] D00QLE:
Mmmm are we getting android 3 before psp2?

Sucks for psp department, cos se are lazy ass.
[XPERIA X10 General] Monopoly93:
Could possibly be an SE WP7 phone and/or a new android phone. Could be the 'rumoured' Xperia X11 and Xperia X12. Would hope there is continued support for the X10 announced regardless of what happens.
[XPERIA X10 General] AndyD777:
Sweeeeeet!!!!!
[XPERIA X10 General] ddewbofh:
How about skipping the conspiracy theories?

An X12 (or whatever they'll call the +1 version) preview would seem likely or perhaps even an updated roadmap for the year 2011. All nay-sayers seem to enjoy that we haven't gotten any info about Froyo and use the 2010 roadmap to support their thesis that we won't get it at all.

But on the other hand you can take the "SE is not pure evil" route and consider that the 2.2 kernel was trickier than anticipated to port and thus delayed. It's not impossible that we could get Froyo in 2011 and shipping that in 1H 2011 could be considered a big thing.
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
Pretty certain there's a SE Win Phone 7... that should be one of the surprises

And then there's the rumoured PSPhone, and who knows... an X10 tab LOL
[XPERIA X10 General] HunteronX:
Exactly.

I think that SE may have got their act together (in thinking about software as well as hardware), and are maybe waiting to update to the next android revision (2.2+) or they've had problems with porting froyo, as you say.

But I think that they will also release newer phones around march to halfway through next year, that'll be announced in the next few months.
[XPERIA X10 General] karendar:
I think the X10 is supposed to have a 2 year lifespan... No?
[XPERIA X10 General] kloud_:
i hope for a longer one...!! :)

I just LOVE this phone..!! :p not more than my lappy though.:D

they definately will and lets hope the x10 gets supported longer than what most ppl think...!!;)
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
I would be willing to bet that they will announce the release of their latest must have device. It will be such a draw that X10 owners will forget that they are still waiting for their revision to be completed. We will all rush to have this new must have device with nearly all the bells and whistles. Only, we will have to wait a bit longer for a software revision that will take, oh about forever, or just long enough for SE to announce their next latest and greatest. Which will also make you forget that you are still waiting for your current devices revision. and so on, and so on, and so on.

This is like da ja vue.

It is starting to bare more than a strong resemblance to what happened to me with the P900, P910, and X1.
[XPERIA X10 General] johndub71:
The cynic in me says hey, we cant update the x10 as we thought so chuck out a new model for our loyal customers to buy...... i only had mine cos voda said new firmware sept. Oh bugger nuts!
[XPERIA X10 General] berbecverde:
If that happened to you with the P900,why buy the P910 and the X1, and then the X10?

And why tell us not to buy SE when you did buy,and you will continue to buy SE products?

MAN... you are strange:eek:
[XPERIA X10 General] Nimche:
Experience says "Whats Surprising to SE, may be an old news to the rest of the world!"
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
I know. Believe me looking back I feel pretty silly.

Edit- Sorry, to answer you question. I actually might, if it were truly great. But believe me I would wait several months for the product to be tested by the market, and only if the device is release as planned. No more broken promises. I would rather have a lesser device with a company that is more straight forward!
[XPERIA X10 General] kloud_:
LOL..!!

seems to be that way since long time...!!:p
[XPERIA X10 General] h0ruza:
I predict WP7 devices, some feature phones and two new android phones that will look amazing and have everyone thinking about them until they come out at the end of 2011 once every other manufacturer has surpassed any glitzy features they came up with to make you want them now.

Does this sound familiar?

At the moment I'm interested in what they will do for their next hardware. I've got my x10 and as much as I'm frustrated at the way its been produced and the laughable software updates i still like it so much more than my HTC Touch Diamond.

Its clear that wanting to level with the other android devices simply isn't going to happen so lets all get on with waiting out our contracts and hope the next SE android device really kicks ass.

SE is sitting on the key brands that make a top multimedia device and simply needs to stop holding back on features from the Cybershot and Walkman brand rather than coming up with the smoke and mirrors of Timescape and Mediascape. If these apps must continue to be part of the Xperia line then have them as apps instead of welded in bloatware.

I wish there was some way of making sure that this happened but it seems that we can petition and moan on blogs and forums until we're blue in the fingers but in the end SE will do whatever they want and that tends to have nothing to do with what we the Geek consumer wants.

I'll stay hopeful. :)

"Most truths we're once deemed blasphemies"
[XPERIA X10 General] Gentimp:
Couldn't have said it better.

If they announce a new phone, believe me, it will be the best phone...on paper. When they release it, boy will you be disappointed you bought it...
[XPERIA X10 General] Contrarian:
Na, It'll be the announcement of a tablet running Meego in my opinion. Makes more sense than releasing another flagship phone; I doubt SE would make the same mistake with this model as they did with the short lived X2.

New models running Symbian 3/4 may still come out, but these will be targeted toward a different user altogether - probably the business or family oriented market segments.
[XPERIA X10 General] alankstiyo:
argh I will have an out to date phone again damn them!!!
[XPERIA X10 General] RumpleStealthSkin:
New HQ in the land of lawsuit, complaints and dissatisfaction... SE will be the one in for big surprise. If that update doesn't come, they'll be surprised by the amount of complaints they'll be getting in the next few months!
[XPERIA X10 General] kalfou:
Just dont buy se anymore, thats what im going to do... what other companies out there have a 2-3 year life cycle of updates and relatively good hardware to last up to 2 years excwpt for apple? (We all know why that is, updated iphone camera from 1megapixal to 2 isnt great lol)

I hear htc are going good, dont ditch you after 6 months
[XPERIA X10 General] Contrarian:
You may want to do your research

HTC Eris - released October 2009. Now September 2010. HTC have announced there will be no update to Froyo for this model.

HtC Aria - released June 2010 - still no update to Froyo

HTC tatoo and dream - never even made it past 1.5, I don't think

HTC Hero - they had to wait more than 6 months just to get an eclair update. No 2.2

Google Nexus 1 - retired. No more support/updates, ever.

These are just a few examples of how HTC customers have been screwed over the past year, There are many more but I can't be stuffed researching.
[XPERIA X10 General] gaolinde:
at least they didn't trap their customer with a mother f***er bootloader that's a lot better than what SE doing
[XPERIA X10 General] skg22086:
didnt every1 hear.. the big surprise is "x10 is delaying release of 2.1" that's BIG.. isnt it.. SE people need to get that **** together... really starting to piss off ppl with their slow ass progress...
[XPERIA X10 General] POLO_i780:
I believe SE have learnt their lesson and will bring Froyo 2.2 if not in late Q4 then Q1 2011. They will probably announce a new flagship Android, a WP7 device and 2.2 Froyo for the X10. Android is different to Symbian and WM, less hoops to get through to get it.

This is the new SE, and i think we will be pleasently suprised, X10 has been a success for them, it simply cant ignore its users, not in this day and age.
[XPERIA X10 General] gaolinde:
yes in the old days update was not so important to a cellphone.

but now the atmosphere within the smartphone industry not gonna allow any company lack of update. if they not giving x10 at least 2.2, probably someday they'll regret that they step into android.
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
Yet still the most succuessful place to own a business on earth. And, all those lawsuits and complaints you make reference to, directly result in improving products and services worldwide.

I think SE are already surprised by the number of complaints they are getting worldwide over the X10.
[XPERIA X10 General] Tjotte:
HTC ditched me and my fellow Diamond owners big time, i dont think any phone company is better then the other. Diamond never even got a major upgrade, only a bunch of small fixes due to a disfunctional device to begin with and it hardly made it better. Well well, they'r all the same, thats all.
[XPERIA X10 General] ronniecross:
hey guys, did you like your suprise?? :D
[XPERIA X10 General] h0ruza:
Oh dear...

http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2010/09/23/update-on-updates/

Being an Xperia x10 owner is a test of character, I get it now!

Could someone tell SE most people just want a mobile phone :)

"Most truths we're once deemed blasphemies"
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
Do you think they announced it now because samsung announced their delay too yesterday?
[XPERIA X10 General] h0ruza:
Who knows

Like I said before geeks Don't matter to SE. We have a very small voice compared to the mass market consumer and they won’t even know there was supposed to be an update at all never mind this month.

You'll notice there's not even an apology and I doubt there will be one.

"Most truths we're once deemed blasphemies"
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
Heh I woke up at 5 am today because I thought the update would be out today. Instead, the ceo was right.. I did get a big surprise
[XPERIA X10 General] h0ruza:
HAHA! True!

"Most truths we're once deemed blasphemies"
[XPERIA X10 General] fdomartineza:
just like some say..

"haters gonna hate" :trollface:
[XPERIA X10 General] jayman1986:
So there are big surprises after all, didn't realise the surprise would come this early though
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/206041/sony_ericsson_delays_android_update.html

Now I have been saying since June that this would happen. I got hammered by all the first time SE owners telling me SE promised this and SE promised that, and that I was full of it.

At the end of the day SE are doing exactly what they did to owners of the P900, P910, X1, and X2. Now do you believe what they say, or go by exactly what they have done for the past 10 years plus?

Rush to be the first with the latest hardware; usually only a couple of weeks ahead of others. Deliver the device with minor bugs and promise a more up to date smoother running software package in the near future; to deliver a software package that justifies the hardware spec's they sold customers on to begin with.

Than what winds up happening is the updates become incomplete and/or pushed back. By the time the product has been completed as intended they have already announced their next must have device; and than they repeat the process all over again. Basically SE get you all excited, they slowing frustrate you with software limitation, they finally give you something to pacify you (but even then it is not even meeting the competition), and they announce their next must have device which will be the exact same story.

The reason SE made such a point of stating that they will continue to support the X10 is because right after the one revision they dropped support of their last five flagship devices. I am positive what the average consumer thinks about the "continued" support for the X10, and what SE actually deliver over the life cycle will be two completely different things. Be prepared to continually be let down.

Now I am not saying any of this to say I told you so. However, I did take an awful lot of grief for saying the same thing since June. I am in the same boat as the rest of us (except I bought a 2nd device in July, because I knew this would happen). But that doesn't mean that I am not just as pissed as the rest. It does not please me to be correct in this situation. I have not been posting on XDA trying to piss people off. What I was trying to do all along is get some of you on board with me to put pressure on SE to take us LOYAL SE customers more seriously.

Also, I thought letting SE stick to the 2.1 instead of the 2.2 was a huge mistake on our part. I was begging people to stop signing petitions for the 2.1 revision to be delivered earlier and instead of demand 2.2. But too few actually listened. SE will never update the X10 beyond 2.1. They are simply playing word games and letting customers assume incorrectly what they meant.

My advice is before you buy your next SE is wait at least five months and see what is happening with the device. Than look at what else is on the market at that time before you buy.

This is piss poor excuse for customer service and defending them is simply guaranteeing that you will have the same problem on you next device. It is time that we all start telling SE that we will not be their customers any more if this is how they will treat us.

Some one at SE should lose their job over this fiasco.
[XPERIA X10 General] kalfou:
O i forgot to mention... im never purchasing another product from sony again. Theres too many other companies out there that take a hell of alot more care of their customers/ listen to their customers.

Sony Ericsson, im going to be honest with you, from the way people have been talking about you lately on the net from all around the world on all sites, you going to disappear soon...people have learnt the way you work
[XPERIA X10 General] raundown:
I had enough too, the ethics of the company is simply unforgivable.

Im prob going for an iphone 4 or other HTCs androids or the upcoming windows mobile 7. Sure iphone gets replaced every year, antennagate (which is over the hype, didnt happened to any of my friends' even without the case or bumper), smart phone for stupid people etc, its is stupid enough to listen to SE's announcements. PSPhone, biggest android manufacturer? How about start from basic, learn how to keep your promises? One thing for sure iphone's lifespan waay longer than SE's i.e. iphone 3G is still getting updates.

X10 is a great phone for me but still need improvement therefore needs update. However the experience of owning one is tiring if you know what i mean. Too many uncertainty which confuses me just which direction is this phone going and how long is the lifespan.

Totally turned off by the company, I have been played by the company twice but no more. Im 100% committed on not to buy any SE products too like others, consider it as a boycott.
[XPERIA X10 General] Koutch974:
Sony Ericsson "MAKE. BELIEVE"

That's all.
[XPERIA X10 General] raundown:
omg that make sense now!

I always knew theres something fishy about that slogan, now you just reminded me! Seems like the company (sony at least) is doing what their motto says, respect!!
[XPERIA X10 General] gtrab:
Sony's CEO:

"We have a BIG surprise:

we know every other manufacturer is upgrading to 2.2, but SURPRISE !!

we will upgrade you to... 2.1 !!"

"Oh wait, there are MORE SURPRISES !!

Android 2.1 for X10 will be... delayed another month !! SURPRISE !!

Aren't you excited ??"

"But there's even more surprises !!

We will soon announce two new XPERIA DEVICES

that will be relerased AS SOON AS THEIR SPECS ARE OUTDATED !!

:D :D :D
[XPERIA X10 General] HunteronX:
LOL - this is brilliant! :D
[XPERIA X10 General] erilis:
Well I can't say I'm not hugely disappointed. I won't sell my xperia x10 because I always use a phone all the way until it dies. However I am definitely not getting any more SE phones, for they have definitely dropped the ball on customer service these past few years. In fact I am almost convinced that the company is infiltrated with people from Sony's competitors working to undermine the company from the inside, because anyone with common sense would run the company better than it is run at the moment. It seems like they WANT it to fail, perhaps the CEO owns a lot of shares in HTC or something?
[XPERIA X10 General] PGRX10:
Se want to be no 1 android company. Well maybe they will if all other companies pullout cause you are currently last. Be serious if you want to get in the game.:confused:
[XPERIA X10 General] kitsVA:
Very true. And it looks like they are trying hard to fail and failing to even fail because of fans like us:mad:
[XPERIA X10 General] tuxStyle:
I like my X10 but i'll never buy a SE again.

What i'm more upset about is ... all other phones on market are either ugly or nothing to make them different from other phones in terms of design.

All of them.

Samsung, LG, HTC, etc.

Only Motorola has something ... well, different with their X but that's it.

All of should hire some new young designers and fire they dinos...
[XPERIA X10 General] johndub71:
He might aswell have anounced christmas is coming :-D
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
Ok guys, here's the email address of someone in corporate, its called the Executive Escalations department. Feel free to fill up their mailbox as I am doing:

seee@Support.SonyEricsson.com

Edit: Well I emailed them, got an auto response about how they will respond as soon as possible. Let's see what happens
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
Well after what's happened today/yesterday depending on where you live, I've kind of lost interest in the smartphone industry. I'm not going to cry for my 2.1 update. Its going to come when it will. If there are new phones announced then good for people who want to buy them, but SE has drained my passion
[XPERIA X10 General] k1sr:
It appears that the surprise is that 2.1 is not coming in Q3, but mid to late Q4...

http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2010/09/23/update-on-updates/

Not that much of a surprise - we all kinda guessed it already.

although users might be surprised to find that the update isn't what we were hoping for...
[XPERIA X10 General] pshdo:
I know what the "Big Surprises" is... ;-)

I know what the "Big Surprises" is...

In a few month, after S/E have pushed the releace back 2 or 3 times, S/E go out and say that there will be NO update to the X10 after all...

He will explain that:

"We at S/E have been calculating the numbers, and found that people is more than satisfied with the current 1.6 that is on the X10, noone want 2.1 and even less want 2.2, so we at S/E will not use our dev team for this update after all..."

He will also say:

"We at S/E have made a desition to bring back the best phone we ever build, as this is the only thing that S/E users want, so pleace welcome our next superphone, the T68i, only change in the T68i from the old version is that the batt. is better now, so you now get up to 3 month of standby, and 7 days talk time"

(The thing to remember here, is that he WILL say "up to")

Have a nice day...:)
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
Nah. If they did announce no update they would admit that it is due to stability. That they don't want to spoil the user experience with a device with more bugs. And, than they would announce the release of the x20; or what ever it will be called.
[XPERIA X10 General] jakp3:
The point is:

i dont ****ing care about a new phone... i bought mine (X10) 6 months ago. And is not a surprise for me a stupid psp phone... i big surprise can be Gingerbread
[XPERIA X10 General] Contrarian:
I think 90% of the posts here are absolutely useless.

In my opinion the big announcement will be a decision by Sony Ericsson to make their source code more open to the development community. Something similar to the Symbian foundation where developers can add features to the operating system on a regular basis. I don't think they'll go so far as to release their bootloader, but I do feel they want to encourage more "openness" so that the user experience is more aligned with changing expectations.

It may be wishful thinking but these are my thoughts anyhow.
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
If it is true what they say about gingerbread there will be no more third party UI's. So your post must go in that 90% because it is really a moot point. :D
[XPERIA X10 General] goodraja14:
i got 026, i wanna root my fone....shld i jus run step 2 n dats all... is 3 important...
[XPERIA X10 General] ddewbofh:
You should be able to use the one-click root. There's an apk you install and then run which takes care of it for you.

Good luck.
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
I think gingerbread, if it is what we are hearing about it, will just be the glue. The hard part of having the X10 will have to be:

1) micro SDXC technology (64gb minimum)

2) possible 2ghz processor

3) no more third party UI's

4) 1020p

5) 1280×760 resolution

6) 512mb RAM - minimum

7) 4" display - again minimum

The new device will make the X10 look like the original Motorola Brick. Heck battery charge and call volume are already the same!

The X10 will never offer support for the 2.2 let alone Gingerbread :(
[XPERIA X10 General] ddewbofh:
So what if it's not completely futureproof? It's a phone that works just fine for most people now regardless of OS version. Besides, those specs aren't official. It's not even clear whether Gingerbread will be deployed to phones or if it's primarily an update to make Android more tablet-friendly. Semi-official word is that the next version of Android for phones will be a point-update to 3.0, along the lines of 3.1 or 3.2.

Nevertheless, fact remains that none of the things you mentioned are minimum requirements, if anything they're recommended. They should be taken very lightly given that they're not even official.
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
Too bad the X10 wasn't even currentproof! lol :D

Me, no way would I keep the X10 even for paper weight purposes once the big guns come out. But you keep the faith brother.