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[Captivate Android Development] 88EVGAFTW:
My battery drains about twice as fast as eclair with jh7 update. I'm flashing back to stock.
[Captivate Android Development] TheYar:
I agree that the thread gets cluttered. Have some sympathy. People get excited about their first root/ROM. The threads are huge and searching frequently sends you down endless dead-ends. The FAQs are sometimes great and sometimes incorrect, confusing, and misleading. Chefs concentrate more on good ROMs than on perfect instruction manuals; it's cool. Usually after one or two "stupid" questions that are followed by polite and helpful pointers, a user will get better at figuring out what they are reading.

And remember that each noob is a different person, he isn't the same noob from last time, so don't take out all your past frustrations on the current unlucky. The ones who deserve a full GTFO are the ones who are demanding, rude, ungrateful, or who repeatedly refuse to follow advice.

Generally speaking, flaming and internet rage are an even worse problem for forums than the noob clutter is.
[Captivate Android Development] shaolin95:
A Quick test on lag fix:

NO LAG FIX load times

Asphalt loading 14.833s (3rd try)

Asphalt quick race : 14.835ss

HAWX : 25.343s

Home RUn 3D: 19.885s

Lag fix load times

Asphalt loading 17.142s (3rd try)

Asphalt quick race : 13.57s

HAWX : 25.445s

Home RUn 3D: 19.272s
[Captivate Android Development] cruiserbax:
The thread has a lot of information on reseting your battery stats to help with this problem. SOme get a lot better results on battery reporting after. With that said, a the battery drain has been addressed a lot here so it is not news to us and if you want to use 2.1, well that's your choice, we all have one. Good luck and have fun with your phone, hope you find a build thats fits your lifestyle.
[Captivate Android Development] ranova:
again, its not application load times that matters, its actual usage on high I/O applications (such as touchdown, feedr, facebook, dolphin, etc)

Load times on stock froyo is fine and the applications I listed are A LOT better versus stock Eclair, but its noticeable when a lag fix is not implemented.
[Captivate Android Development] TheYar:
Try OCLF and see if that has any effect. Most of the Cog ROMs are very efficient with the battery, only a few have presented drain issues. For me, the battery drain (and lag) on 2.2Beta5.5 seemed to be caused by some sort of overworked swap management that got a lot better after I put a big EXT2 on top of it.

EDIT: Also, I disagree that "battery life has been talked about before" is a valid reason to discount any claim about battery drain appearing in a particular version. If someone notices that going from one Cog ROM to the current one results in a significant increase in battery usage, that seems like it would be useful information for this thread. Maybe it's the issue talked about ebfore, and maybe it isn't. My investigation into it indicates that there have been at least 2 distinct reasons that battery life varies so much, reasons that are more interesting than "wipe your stats, we already talked about that." If questions about how to flash or use features of the ROMs, or discussions on issues discovered with ROMs, are all going to be told to take their posts elsewhere, then what is the point of this thread? A group of loyal fans flaming everyone else?
[Captivate Android Development] Rhiannon224:
comment deleted by poster. I don't wnat to get into a flame war.
[Captivate Android Development] torrin66:
How big of an EXT2 did you put out here? I only did the default in OCLF.
[Captivate Android Development] shaolin95:
So the things that cannot be measured or tested are the ones where it is noticeable? I cannot see any difference so far with or without it and I use dolphin all the time to stream south park at work so I guess to each its own but so far anything that can be tested shows zero advantage.

I will stay away from any more lag fix discussions for the benefit of the OP from now on.

Regards
[Captivate Android Development] ranova:
it can be measured and tested. open up an email and scroll through previous emails in touchdown. It takes 2-3 seconds to open each one without OCLF, and instant to 1 second with OCLF (always instantly with Voodoo).

With facebook, you can tell a difference after loading the news feed when it loads all the profile pictures and caches them.

Lagfixes were never needed for actual application load times, I never saw a difference. Actual interaction and usability is where Samsung's ****ty RFS was noticeable.

A real shame.
[Captivate Android Development] TheYar:
I dragged my finger as far as I could, 1458 I believe. :)

Anyway, as for lag, this is why I feel like there may be something in the way some of us are flashing that is causing a problem. I'm pretty sure the lag I encountered with Beta5.5, in everything like swiping home screens, opening the app drawer, etc. was worse than any I'd seen in any stock, SRE, or Cog ROM. After OCLF it was fine. Who knows, though, maybe my phone just needed one more reboot, which OCLF incidentally does for you. Hard to tell right now.

But I know that acting like it's taboo to discuss it will not likely be of much help to DG or anyone else.
[Captivate Android Development] shaolin95:
Did you leave it as default for the lag fix setting?

I will have to try this at home...it is a pain to move the apps back to the phone etc. :D
[Captivate Android Development] designgears:
Thanks for that! Once again, the lagfix yields very little real usage gains
[Captivate Android Development] ranova:
I did a 1458mb partition. If the phones working fine for you and you arent pulling hair because of something, id leave it for now. Unless you want to prove that a lagfix isnt needed or something :)

OCLF is definitely not as fine tuned and as snappy as Voodoo, I hope it will be updated soon (probably wont happen until froyo source is released)
[Captivate Android Development] chesus05:
Thank you very much, but apparently not a problem for drivers.

The phone is connected, establishing the new network, but the network connection is listed as 'no internet connection'

I can ping the phone and responds, but does not respond beyond the gateway, as the phone does not do NAT.

I tried it in Windows 7 and XP, I got the same results.

Always keeping one active network connection on the pc.

I do not know what I'm doing wrong, maybe some settings on the phone, but repeat your processes with the same results.

Also I tested on 3G and wifi.
[Captivate Android Development] jatkins09:
Did you get those kids off your lawn? Who exactly is the "gimme generation?"

For the record, I agree with you, but I certainly don't attribute the laziness of forum readers to a whole generation. Some people are lazy, some are not.
[Captivate Android Development] Pirateghost:
i dont necessarily attribute the gimme generation to a particular age group. i would rather liken it to be what a mass majority of society has become.

as a system administrator i see these kinds of people all day every day, all age groups, all walks of life. but for some reason society has bred a nation of 'gimme now, i dont want to learn or understand it myself!'
[Captivate Android Development] RKight:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=731989
[Captivate Android Development] dalewest:
Cog b7 wired headset sound quality

First off: big thanks to DG for his consistently solid work and dedication.

Since moving to b7, Has anyone noted any issues with call quality on wired headsets with built-in mics, where callers complain about how you sound? It's only been a day and I only made a few calls, but I've heard complaints of background buzzing, a 'tunnel affect', and even a 'screech'. I, however, hear my callers perfectly.

This wasn't an issue on b6, for me anyway. And I love the speed of b7.
[Captivate Android Development] richsale:
Thanks RKight worked like a charm
[Captivate Android Development] RKight:
You're very welcome. Glad I could help!
[Captivate Android Development] HAYDENB:
I installed 2.3b7 last night and so far battery like seems pretty good. I also noticed that flashing Cog 2.3b6 and b7 i seem to have a fairly stable 3G signal im usually getting between two and four bars. Before it would switch between Edge and 3G while at home
[Captivate Android Development] bamjoe:
I loaded up b7 yesterday and so far, so good. I haven't had any problems. I installed the oc/uv version, but I do not have any experience with overclocking and undervolting. What should I change the setting to?
[Captivate Android Development] link12245:
WARNING!

May be just me, but my phone is experiencing random shut downs. Last night, while on charger and playing pandora (i listen while i sleep) it shut down and left me with no alarm so I was late to work. v2.3b7 is what i'm using, not blaming the dev, just letting people know.
[Captivate Android Development] slvr00gt:
3rd day for me with no disconnects on the way to/from work! I would normally get at least one disconnect each trip. I guess turning off wifi doesn't eliminate the noise, but reduces to the point where Ford Sync works reliably, but your device might be more sensitive.

I loaded up tasker to automate wifi switches. Works great!
[Captivate Android Development] s2h2golf:
This is a known issue with these OC/UV ROMs. It affects some phones and not others. It has to do with undervolting the processor and not having enough juice to pull it out of sleep after the battery has charged. The only fix I know of right now is to avoid setting any UV values (keep everything at 0). I am playing with some of the UV settings to see if I can find something stable and still take advantage of the UV. I think the lower mhz values are what is killing the phone, so I have changed those to 0 and UV only the upper mhz values.
[Captivate Android Development] GuitsBoy:
I like you thinking, but I have also suffered sleep death with everything at 0. Very strange. Im going to keep playing with my voltage settings since I can fairly reliably recreate the sleep death on my phone.
[Captivate Android Development] tbong777:
You want reliable sleep death? Plug it in at night...LOL

FYI every OC/UV kernel on every ROM I have tried has charged it self to death over night regardless of settings. I have come to the concusion. I could not see enough difference between 1GHz and 1,3Ghz in application to warrant using those kernals. Nor does acouple hours of extra battery life worth the issues of poassibly cooking the processor starving for voltages.

I am using Excaliburs which is smooth as silk and has voodoo voices to let me know whats happing wehn I disable or enable lagfix when I get the urge to experiment with Kernels. But it will be my daily driver. No issues.....

I use far better IEMS than stock phones when listening to music and can take a call the old fashion way so not having a wired headset (which is still in the little bag) is not an issue for me.

UV for an extra couple hours of battery life is not worth the hassle with sleep death. After 14 or so hours my phone is on charge and I have a couple extra batteries at 100% I used for flashing.

I will say this..Those who are afraid of the i9000 JK3 modem..DON'T be it is the

best thing that has happened to these Captivates. All the most popular ROMs are using them with good reason. I am guessing DG will also abandon the Captivate in favor of the Bell or Vibrant ROM bases.
[Captivate Android Development] RKight:
Funny...I ran SetiroN's kernel at 1280 MHz on Perception 7 (and MikeyMike01's ROMs) and never had sleeping death. With CogKernel2 (the same kernel that comes default with Perception and the newest Cognition), I experienced charger death for the first time ever.
[Captivate Android Development] Frontier3:
Are people only getting the charger death on the OC/UV release? Or is it happening on both releases of b7?
[Captivate Android Development] tbong777:
I tired Axura , Assonance 3.1 Perception 6 and had that issue. With this ROM I am running now so far so good. I flashed over MikeysMikes Assonance before I tested it. I just don't need OC/UV. I prefer a ROM waaaaaay better than JF6 and stable. I am not a bleeding edge squeeze every drop of performance benchmarking manic. I find something I like and stick with it. Since Perception 4 though it has been a struggle until now. I don;t care to flash every few days (or hours) in some cases trying new ROMs only to find dealbreakers.

I realize we are using Beta ROMs...but in some cases there have been some "alpha Betas" in search of extreme perfomance and little else. The GPS is fixed and thats a good thing. I am wating DGs threads though becasue he had the forst really great ROMs and I believe he will again ahve a ROM as stable as Perception 4 when he gets both these thse threads unified.
[Captivate Android Development] RKight:
YMMV, I guess...because it was the worst thing to happen to me. Sure, it had HSUPA enabled by default. Other than that, it was a horrible battery drain and had issues with call quality and dropped calls. If that's the best thing to happen to your phone, you should probably consider a warranty exchange.
[Captivate Android Development] Minced:
D: Oh noes!

I wanted to update cognition from b6 to b7 and I was apprehensive about it because I'm new to this. I disabled the lagfix or well I'm stuck in the process of it. When I rebooted she said step one, step two, and this'll take a while or whatever she says then said step one again. Waited for a while and now I'm stuck on the boot animation. It plays halfway and restarts over and over again. What happened? :confused: :confused:
[Captivate Android Development] connexion2005:
I posted a video of how to ROM for anyone who is curious and unsure of how to do it but prefers a video over text. :)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=867153

DG Rocks!
[Captivate Android Development] s2h2golf:
I tried Perception 5 with SentiroN's kernel and it was buggy - I think it was the ULF that made everything act weird. I also had really poor GPS locks (5 sats and it took over 2 minutes to get a lock). I didn't have charger death with it though. With 2.3b7, Voodoo seems to be a lot more stable than ULF and is more consistent. GPS locks as good as it ever has and with higher values (several into the 40s). The charger death thing is killing me though. Maybe I'll go back to 2.3b3 (made a backup of it).
[Captivate Android Development] Minced:
Can you make a Cognition update video?

Thanks for your others
[Captivate Android Development] loraque:
The charge death issue is not related to the settings, but simply having the ocuv kernel installed at all (in my experience). If you want to avoid the charge death, load up a non-ocuv kernel, and enjoy.
[Captivate Android Development] designgears:
Crapppy, I made a mistake on beta7... the non-oc version was supposed to be a cativate kernel with voodoo injected, not the i9k kernel... I will be fixing that later today.
[Captivate Android Development] Lancez:
really? :D have been running it since last night, didnt have any problems. the haedjack fix is working just fine. thanks
[Captivate Android Development] GuitsBoy:
I dont seem to experience charge death when i limit it to 1000 instead of 1280. I cant imagine it replaces the kernel, right?
[Captivate Android Development] jorge_moran_jams:
Playlists duplicating

There was a bug with stock Eclair that made m3u playlists duplicate every time the phone perfomed a media scan, but when I switched to Cognition 2.4.1, that bug completely disappeared, last night I tried both Perception B8 non oc-uv and Cognition 2.3b7 non oc-uv and they both have the same issue... It's really annoying to have the playlist duplicate everytime I reboot the phone or even when I dismount it from the PC.

Does anyone know how to avoid this issue in latest Cognition or in Perception, My guess is that since 2.4.1 was built on top of a Vibrant ROM that could be the reason that issue wasn't there.

Any comments?
[Captivate Android Development] k2snowboards88:
I think it must depend on the network topology in your area. Some of us lose signal every morning when we take our phones off of the charger. I know I live in an area with both 1900 and 850 combination channels. I wonder if that has something to do with it.

I'm fine using a captivate native modem.
[Captivate Android Development] loraque:
No, they seem to create a script that runs at boot, so for a brief moment you are probably 1200, then the script sets the values back to 1000. The issue never did seem to affect everyone... the best problems are the intermittent ones.
[Captivate Android Development] tweek1020:
After flashing B7 the first time I ran into a lot of issues, random reboots, force closes, phone just generally locking up. I started over and was able to get rid of all the force closing, but the phone was still powering off and freezing under several applications. I ended up flashing back to beta 6. Is anyone else running into these types of issues with Beta 7?
[Captivate Android Development] borguesian:
Could be related to DG's post a few minutes ago:
[Captivate Android Development] daverup:
The lagfix disable on 2.3b6 isn't completely reliable. I had it work once and crash once.

Flash stock, reflash a new rom.
[Captivate Android Development] ewingr:
Sure about BT? I don't see it saying what does/does not work on B7 in the changelog. Did a quick glance at teh FAQ page, and based on looking in the index at top, don't see reference to 7 at all yet.

BT works great on Perception. If it doesn't work here, I guess that's reason to go with Perception (for those who care about BT).
[Captivate Android Development] mwerth11:
I flashed it this morning way before your post... Working just fine.
[Captivate Android Development] Wdustin1:
Cognition 2.3b7

It was pretty buggy for me last night and was alot slower on the Quadrant i got a 900 it was the non uc/oc version though, i flashed back to beta 6 for now
[Captivate Android Development] connexion2005:
For the B7? This video would apply. Or do you mean on how to disable lagfix and flash over a current COG Rom? I could make one.
[Captivate Android Development] shaxs:
I am using the original Cognition 2.2b1. It has worked well for my needs including gps ect, so I never felt the need to upgrade.

Recently I started traveling once a month and relying on crappy hotel internet. I can use usb or wireless tethering with my Captivate but get horrible pings and speeds:

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1064395617.png

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1064400255.png

What I would like is get tethering to work well enough with a good enough ping to play Aion in my hotel at night which is a MMORPG.

Question: Regardless of a release, would usb tethering from a Captivate ever be good enough to play a MMORPG?

Question 2: If question 1 is viable, would upgrading to a newer cognition release give me better tethering speeds and pings?
[Captivate Android Development] connexion2005:
Those are actually expected speeds in many areas that have older smaller 3G networks. The upload can be GREATLY increased by switching to a JK3 rom but you will lose voice quality on the mic side of your phone calls. It will sound echoey. I get about those speeds with a non-HUSPA Rom when I'm in my local town but when I go to bigger towns, my dl jumps up to around 3-4 MBPS.
[Captivate Android Development] connexion2005:
Those are actually expected speeds in many areas that have older smaller 3G networks with non-HUSPA modems. The upload can be GREATLY increased by switching to a JK3 rom using HUSPA but you will lose voice quality on the mic side of your phone calls. It will sound echoey or atleast does in mine and many other people's cases. I get about those speeds with a non-HUSPA Rom when I'm in my local town but when I go to bigger towns, my dl jumps up to around 3-4 MBPS. Upload will always be fairly low unless you use a HUSPA enabled ROM/modem/kernel.
[Captivate Android Development] shaxs:
Im okay with the speeds, its the latency that is killing me. But I guess this may be normal?
[Captivate Android Development] RockRatt:
Whose running the H8 OC/UV and didn't get charge death in the morning after a full charge? I am on P8 OC/UV right now and experienced it after a full night charge.

I used P8 No OC/ UV and di not have it bit like many others I keep trying for the best of DGs work. So I am curious if the captivate version of of/uv still has the issues for some?

Another note I also used perception with the sentiron kernel of/uv and didn't have sleep death with it but also had to NOT undercolt at all or it was buggy. I love the way P8 Of is working and the speed so looking for others that have/ had not sleep death. It is my only problem. Thanks

Perception Baby! Rockin the OverClockin...
[Captivate Android Development] skimberk1:
Lol, I play Aion with USB tethering when I'm traveling. It's usually pretty laggy so PvP is a bad idea, but it's alright for grinding and stuff.
[Captivate Android Development] CLShortFuse:
Will flashing to Odin revert the start up screen to normal?
[Captivate Android Development] skimberk1:
Everything is wiped so all custom boot screens will be removed. It's not that hard to add it again though.
[Captivate Android Development] eatonjb:
where is the FAQ's on whats new from B6 to B7? I'm anxious to check it out.. but not sure whats up.. :)

thank you

Eaton
[Captivate Android Development] RKight:
Will the non-oc version have the JJ4 modem or will it still be JK3? No big deal either way, since I've got a JJ4 update zip. I just thought I'd ask.
[Captivate Android Development] chi3sol:
Beta 7

some advice how to go back to beta 6 I realy depend on the bluetooth thanks
[Captivate Android Development] Jirv311:
Flash stock then back to B6.
[Captivate Android Development] ljwnow:
A Possible Bug

All programs requiring GPS need to be start twice in order to make GPS working...It means, first time the program starts, the GPS will not start, then you start the program for a second time, the GPS then starts to start up... Can anyone confirm this?:confused:
[Captivate Android Development] chi3sol:
Back to B6

Escape311 thanks
[Captivate Android Development] Jirv311:
I'm running the non-oc B7 version and am not experiencing this myself.
[Captivate Android Development] ljwnow:
Thanks for the reply. Would you plz briefly explain to me what non-oc means please? I am new to Android...It is quite different from WM.

Thank you.
[Captivate Android Development] lrs421:
No overclock.
[Captivate Android Development] ljwnow:
Thank you very much. Do you mean that the default v2.3b7 is overclocked? I didn't know that....
[Captivate Android Development] eatonjb:
im bummed.. played with this Rom, pretty nice, seems pretty fast. but I can't live with bad bluetooth.. :(
[Captivate Android Development] ljwnow:
I guess I'll flash again to see what happens. Thanks guys!!
[Captivate Android Development] lrs421:
There isn't a default version really, just a choice of oc or non-oc. Pick your poison. If you don't know much about overclocking I would study up and proceed with caution.
[Captivate Android Development] rasroygbiv:
Just flashed the jk4 modem... Up and down I have better speeds than jk3.. Hook us up DG..