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[Desire General] !PANDA:
It probobly wont even fit on to our desire.. the new sense doesnt so why would this.. ?

Sent from my beloved hTc Desire!
[Desire General] elburna:
The new Sense doesnt? Check this: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=788554 First ROM-Elements. Flashable via ADB. Only Camera isnt working correctly yet. Give it 7-10 days and you will have the first stable Desire HD ROM on your Desire Classic ;)
[Desire General] deeren:
The nexus one will be the first to receive it.it is google's developers phone and it is stock vanilla.
[Desire General] AndroHero:
whats that got to do with it?? it still dosent fit on our desire, 60% of the rom is symlinked to the sd card, while thats ok for ammusement, its not really a day to day option isit?? anyway it boils down to the fact that the desire wont get gingerbread officially, as far as technology goes, its now a generation behind the current level of devices and htc only support its current generation of devices ......
[Desire General] chichoko:
They will offer a Sense-less update because.. Google says so? :rolleyes: Just sayin..

Google said they will cut off any custom UI made for the Android post-Gingerbread because it makes the ROM's getting deployed later than the Nexus just because of the customizations every damn company makes.. Im not saying that Sense sucks.. it has the most beautiful widgets in the world.. but i vote for stock Android with downloadable widgets than waiting for half a year to get 3.0 only to realize that 5.x+ is already out...

From the yet unofficial info we have about Gingerbread.. it is stated that the next version of Android wont have any custom OEM UI built on it.. so it wont be on HTC to decide wether we'll have it since it will be the same for all future Gingerbread compatible phones.. It will be just like the Nexus.. as soon as it gets released.. we could have it.. But still we have little info about it.. but im pretty sure we'll have it if the minimum requirements remain the same we know atm..
[Desire General] AndroHero:
you have got that so wrong lol htc has already confirmed that it will be keeping sence with gingerbread, android is open source google has no right to impose such restrictions on oem version of android, the gpl that comes with android states that anyone has the rite to modify and distribute android as they see fit.
[Desire General] AndroHero:
here is a quote from Drew Bamford, who heads HTC’s user experience design team. “Google may focus more on improving the user interface on the stock Android [software], but I don’t think they’ll preclude manufacturer customization.”
[Desire General] GANJDROID:
If Googles idea is to make all UI overlays obsolete, then Android will be on the same lines as iOS in the sense that its just one experience.

Yeah, its still customizable, but handset makers won't be as interested imo.
[Desire General] th3:
Currently, Gingerbread is being worked on to get it out as fast as they can, by Q4 2010. Mainly because nV has delayed all Tegra 2 design wins for the year due to OS problems and they're now totally banking on Gingerbread for Q4 launches, the prime of which are HTC designs. Earlier, I was excepting a mid Q1 2011 product launch for the first Gingerbread devices but right now, I'm expecting to see the first in Q4 2010. No idea when mobile designs will ship or get hit with it. N1 I'd expect the same quarter.

I'm 100% sure Google contrasted themselves with Apple not long back that the whole point and benefit in open source is inclusivity of partner development and the diversity and richness it brings, not exclusivity.

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- Sent via my HTC Desire -
[Desire General] chichoko:
Purely from the rumours ive been reading till now abou GB, it was stated that Google wanted to mark GB as a landmark OS which will divide the low end devices from the high end ones. It is said that the 2.x version will be targeted at the lower end devices while 3.x will be the future of the OS. Hence the minimum requirements it is said they implied (1ghz cpu, 3.5 inch display and at least 512 ram).

And it is also said that the custom UI's wont be needed because of the overhauled Android UI. HTC can always boast about its widgets i guess.. those most likely wont be affected in any way and will remain a part where any individual OEM manufacturer can provide some level os uniqueness.

While i know this isnt anything official to be believed in, by personal preference only id like it to be true because it is plain stupid to have to wait 3+ months for an update just because i have a Custom UI from HTC or Samsung or whatever..
[Desire General] foxmeister:
Only the Linux kernel is GPL'd - Android itself is not released under the GPL - it is released under the Apache Software License (ASL).

There is something that Google can do to stop ISVs (if it so desires) and that is to refuse to license GApps to them. I don't think it would happen, but Google do have some leverage here.

Regards,

Dave
[Desire General] AndroHero:
sorry i assumed android was covered under the gpl and the only restriction google imposed was that any modifed version of android was distributed with all the google legal information, as for not licensing GApps to htc .... i think they call that commercial suicide lol
[Desire General] nawoa:
Custom UIs being obsolete won't stop retarded companies from implementing them. Especially when it affords them the opportunity to ruin the device altogether (thanks Samsung).
[Desire General] DroidBois:
Samsung can get stuffed. We were fooled by their 'Internet@home' rubbish to find that there is only YouTube, so much for that idea. I wouldn't trust Samsung to update any product more than 3 months old, and even then struggle.

So what's the deal with Gingerbread then anyway? The HTC Desire seems to have adequate specs although I thought it really is a tablet rather than a phone OS so the 2.x series will still be maintained and be fine?
[Desire General] olly230:
If this does get released for the desire (which is doubtful) I will be goldcarding/debranding/rooting my phone as the legitmate update process from branded phones is ridiculous.

I played with the winmo roms on my old HD1 as it was so easy,

copy file to SD -restart - done

Android flashing is a little more invovled so I have shied away from it just in case I brick it.

But the improvements given by the new andorid versions are significant so why should I have to wait 4 months for agreed functionality to be switched on.

Would a car manufacturer release a car with the air con switched off? You buy your car in the middle of summer and they finally send you the switch to turn it on in winter.

Unhappy Orange user.
[Desire General] DroidBois:
I will never buy branded phones again. Everyone has the same issue with every branded phone. If you don't like it, buy unlocked unbranded like us. You'll never look back.
[Desire General] tommo123:
big outlay though. when i chose the desire, one of the selling points was that it had a few roms out for it already by the time i got it.

if it hadn't been, i would haev gone for another phone i think
[Desire General] olly230:
I got a desire and 2 years of phone usage (500MB/mnth and unlimited texts etc) for £360 all in. (£15mth)

but they f**k with my phone before I get it.
[Desire General] AndroHero:
i have a factory unlocked desire but still needed a goldcard .......
[Desire General] DroidBois:
Why would you need a goldcard if you have an unbranded / unlocked phone?
[Desire General] AndroHero:
quite a few people needed goldcards with unbranded phones, especially when the desire was first launched.....
[Desire General] well0549:
I can see the desire get Gingerbread. It does meet the specs so Google will update the nexus. Then since Nexus & Desire are virtually the same we will get it as well (either by NTC or the modders)

I Would love that.

And HTC could create an Awfull nice Sense Widget that looks and acts like the one shown on WM7. Bundle that one with some nice Sense Widgets and you have best of both worlds. The only thing that HTC would have to do is preventing the widgets to run on other devices (aka non htc) should be pretty easy to do and everybody is happy.
[Desire General] chichoko:
Exactly what im hoping for!
[Desire General] bliblablub:
Guess, that's just the next step...

Code the next OS and improve old system parts like FOTA
[Desire General] GANJDROID:
Google Car Home has also just been uploaded to the market. 2.2.1

Now has costomisable shortcuts :D:D

Sent from my HTC Desire
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] geojamz:
if i root my evo will it erase my contacts?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fachadick:
Save your contacts to your gmail acct, then just sync up later.

Sent from my blah blah blah blah
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fenixjn:
You can also export your contacts to a .vcf file to the SD card, root and then import them back.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dkdude36:
yes it will. this screwed me over, and i had more than 200 contacts. simple way to not have it wipe you though. go to people, hit menu, import/export, export, and phone. then, when you are done rooting, go back to people and hit menu, import/export, import, all, phone. done
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tripkaos:
hello everyone :)

well i was in a greek forum and they tell that with the original rom you cant buy fom android market...i dont know if the ver 2.2 fix's the problem,but there is a way that i can buy from android market with greek desire?or should i ask them first and then come here to ask?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ljesh:
With any ROM (as far as I know) you can buy from the market. The market works or doesn't depending on the country you're from by checking for your mobile operator.

But still, there is a cure even for this and it's called MarketEnabler or MarketAccess.
[Droid Eris Android Development] djR3Z:
I first want to thank everyone at UnrEVOked for what they've done. I'm posting this because there aren't any really detailed instructions. Its an easy enough root, but I know I've been there before and even the simplest things can be tough if things aren't laid out. So here's a step by step tutorial.

Due to some bugs, Unrevoked 3.2 was taken down shortly after being released, but the updated version is now LIVE! So obviously we're going to bring you a video tutorial on how to do it! Thanks to the guys at Unrevoked for giving us this simple solution to rooting the Droid Eris.

LINK TO VIDEO WALKTHROUGH FOR HOW TO ROOT THE ERIS

◄●REQUIRED DOWNLOADS●►

EVERYONE: Unrevoked3. Download the version for your OS.

WINDOWS USERS: unrEVOked modified USB driver

◄●How to Install HBOOT Drivers (Windows Users ONLY)●►

If you're using Windows, you're going to have to install the HBOOT drivers first. You can follow this video tutorial:

How to Install HBOOT Drivers

and follow along with these written instructions provided by the Unrevoked team:

Download the unrEVOked modified USB driver and expand it somewhere you will remember.

Turn off your phone, then boot it into the HBOOT menu by holding power and volume down.

On your phone, you will have to select HBOOT USB at that menu by pressing volume down four times, then power. Wait until the screen flashes through an “SD Checking” message before pressing buttons; otherwise, the phone will ignore keypresses.

Connect the phone to your Windows machine with a USB cable and wait for the phone to say HBOOT USB PLUG on screen.

Open Device Manager.

Click Start, then right click on Computer, then click Properties, then click Device Manager.

Under Other devices, you should now see the Android 1.0 device.

Right click on Android 1.0 and click Update Driver Software:

Click on Browse my computer for driver software.

Click on Browse and select the Android USB Driver folder on on your computer, click ok, then click next.

You should get a status bar indicating that the driver is installing. If you get any warnings, just click Ok.

Your driver should install.

Click Close and make sure Android Bootloader Interface is listed under Android Phone.

◄●Instructions●►

Make sure you downloaded Unrevoked3 for your OS.

If you're on Windows, make sure you "uninstall HTC Sync or any other program that might talk to the phone over USB (doubletwist, etc). They will cause problems" (Unrevoked.com).

Plug your phone into your computer with USB.

Drag down from the notification bar on your phone and select "Charge Only" and "Remember this"

Make sure your phone has USB Debugging turned on by going to Menu>>Settings>>Applications>>Development and checking USB debugging.

Run the Reflash application that you downloaded.

Unrevoked will run its processes. Follow the few instructions it gives and thats it!

You're now rooted!
[Droid Eris Android Development] FunkyFender:
Awesome work! Does this flash a custom recovery and if so, Amon's or Clockwork?

I'd also mention for any potential rooters that we already have a PC-less 1 Click Root App - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=742228, but it's always great to have alternatives, especially if you've used unrevoked on another device.
[Droid Eris Android Development] djR3Z:
Yeah it flashes a custom recovery (Clockwork). And thanks for posting the link to the other method :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] FunkyFender:
Is it possible to have a version for the Eris that flashes Amon's? Clockwork is known to cause problems (bricks) with some Erises.
[Droid Eris Android Development] djR3Z:
Well thats completely up to the Unrevoked team, but its easy enough to flash a different recovery image.
[Droid Eris Android Development] sigmarr:
HBOOT Driver Issue

I have ran unrevoked on my Incredible without any trouble and tried to use this for my brothers Eris(my old phone). The problem I am having is the failure of the phone recognizing the usb connection while in HBoot. When I select fastboot from the HBoot screen it will "see" the usb connection though. I have a suspicion that it may be the data cable but it seems unlikely due to the fact that it has no issues with mounting the sd card and that it recognizes the usb connection in fastboot.

Any ideas?

RESOLVED:

Forgot I posted this but I fixed the issue. I rebooted the phone manually throughout the process and got it. Not the greatest solution but it worked :D
[Droid Eris Android Development] djR3Z:
Glad you got it fixed man :)
[Droid X General] toddman:
Yaay

http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/21/motorola-droid-x-getting-android-2-2-update-starting-tomorrow
[Droid X General] generic.imitation:
I'm not updating until it's rooted anyhow. I'm fine with the leaked rom for now.
[Droid X General] Ubermicro13:
Oh. My. God.

Its about time and im excited w00t w00t moar Roms nao!
[Droid X General] meshdub:
Birdman's tweet:

"Im ready to turn this froyo update into my whore :)....root method and such will follow shortly after release :)"
[Droid X General] Ubermicro13:
I <3 Birdman =)
[Droid X General] toddman:
Gmail also gets updated. And will be available in the app store. What a good day tomorrow will be!
[Droid X General] meshdub:
It's already updated and available =)

Well if you're running 2.2 that is.
[Droid X General] x.v_:
Pumped! :)

Definitely will be updating during school. :P
[Droid X General] teon39:
I will believe it when i see it!!!!
[Droid X General] InfamousDX:
Godspeed to all the devs working this this. Cmonnnn cracked bootloader!
[Droid X General] Ryphez:
So excited for this!
[Droid X General] skraapz27:
Its funny once upon a time if you had a 528mhz computer in your house you were somebody. Now people ***** cause their 1ghz cell phone is laggy. Kind of off topic but it just came to mind.
[Droid X General] cbaty08:
Have Mom's X downloading the update now!!!!!
[Droid X General] iamrobk:
Installing it on my X now!
[Droid X General] skraapz27:
47% *****es
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tomektowski:
Hi,

Question about contacts - add number/type - company, home ect

Is there any way to add another customizable type of number eg "old mobile" or other

any idea?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jonidroid:
I have installed many different android versions , all are working good but when i reboot and go back to android command line says "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" and and under that text "/# [52.9114021 ACR=3107 FL1256 RAAC=60" what that means ? how i can boot android many times without allways installing android again... before /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off it says mount: mounting/dev/block/loop0 on /data failed: invalid argument Failed failed to mount /data
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] SsZzliMm:
When you start Android from SD card with Haret it creates an Android folder for cache and etc. When you reboot your phone and want to start Android again delete the Android folder from the SD card before you do it and it works fine again.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jonidroid:
i just have one android folder and it has haret.exe and other files inside :o
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pkshr:
One solution (not sure if it will work in your case - has been working perfectly for me) don't copy the files in the root - instead make a folder e.g AndroidTest and copy everything inside this folder. You have to change your startup.txt to reflect this change as followings:

set cmdline "rel_path=AndroidTest"

Now start your clrcad and haret.exe from within this folder.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jonidroid:
OK , i found the problem ... i think , i have 32GB memory card (Sandisk) and it did not work , then i tried small 2GB (nokia) card and its working good ! 32GB has really slow writing speed but i dont know is that the problem...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Vosko:
i've noticed i can NEVER reboot. i'm gonna try deleting the android folder but that is kind of retarded... this seriously keeps me from playing with it.

in my experience if i try to reboot it will fsck forever on the sd card

is there a preferred method to restart the phone without corrupting the sd card ?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] louieyasashi:
hi!

hi friend,

after you first reboot. if your back in winmo use your file explorer and explore your sd card. look for the folder name android and just delete.its a bug.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Vosko:
you are entirely correct. i tried it but didnt post back. that was the problem. i can successfully reboot android now! thank you
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Riahh2Livee:
I tried this. I also have the gen y dualboot installed on my device. After I deleted the android folder and tried to reboot android, some where in the command line it says "cannot create android folder" then scrolls down and says rebooting in...5, 4, 3, etc. and it just restarts my phone, and doesnt load android. can someone help me?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rrva:
How can I set an individual default input language per app?

In the android market for example, I always want English swype.

In emails, I prefer swedish as the default

In text messages, I prefer the keyboard layout to be set to whatever language the first message in the conversation was in (receive in english - reply in english).

Are there fixes for some of these? I switch between swedish/english often swype/non-swype and it's annoying since there is usually an ideal input method/layout for each app.
[Windows Phone 7 General] itpromike:
Ok so WP7 looks pretty cool and all but can I use it with my Mac? Will there be tie in software for the Mac like there is iTunes on Windows machines? From what I understand there will be tie-in software on Windows kind of like the Zune software but what about on the Mac?
[Windows Phone 7 General] gom99:
haven't seen anything about Zune Mac edition. But as I understand it, syncing to a PC isn't mandatory. The phone is standalone. Syncing to a PC is just an enhancement.
[Windows Phone 7 General] itpromike:
Yeah but still if there are things that I can't do because I don't have a PC like... PUT MUSIC ON IT... then I won't be getting one until this is addressed. See what I'm saying?
[Windows Phone 7 General] lordcanti86:
If all else fails, just use Parallels or Boot Camp
[Windows Phone 7 General] itpromike:
I know that's always an option it's just that I don't think I should have to virtualize an OS to use a device. Apple makes software for windows to use their devices, albeit not coded nearly as well as the mac version but at least it's there. So I figure MS should take that initiative as well.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Iridox:
It's true, Zune should have a Mac version. My guess is they may be rewriting it in Silverlight to actually do this, since that would be the simplest way to keep it cross-platform compatible.
[Windows Phone 7 General] lordcanti86:
Lets be honest here, knowing Apple if they could get away with not writing software for Windows they probably would. The only reason they do is because 95% of the worlds computers run Windows.
[Windows Phone 7 General] itpromike:
You say that Apple wouldn't if they could get away with it... but they could get away with it. The share of windows computers that actually use iTunes is VERY VERY small. Not enough to even make an ROI on it's own. Ironically you claim they probably wouldn't even though of the two companies, they are the only ones that do... so I think you statement that's routed in desire should be directed at MS... MS seems to be the ones that don't want to write cross platform software for their mobile devices... This will indeed be to their detriment.
[Windows Phone 7 General] RustyGrom:
Unless Microsoft is going to utilize TheMissingSync like they did for Kin, no you will not be able to sync WP7 with a Mac. WP7 can be used alone except for media syncing.

The share of windows computers that use iTunes is likely small but the share of iTunes users that are on windows is probably very high. There's WAAAAYYYYYY more iPods, iPhones, etc than there are OSX users. Typically they sell ~3mil computers in a quarter as compared to 10mil iPods and 8mil iPhones. There's no way that math can add up to mean that more iTunes users are on OSX than Windows.

I would love for nothing more than Microsoft to port the Zune app to OSX because Zune is way better than iTunes. However, I just don't see them doing it anytime soon. Most OSX users are very much Apple fans. In addition, the Zune client is written using the Iris framework which utilizes a lot of Windows features and is rather Windows-centric. It would have to be a complete rewrite and not just a simple port.

And to the person that suggest SilverLight, not gonna work. SilverLight is way to limited and strict to write something that needs to talk to hardware and the system's file system.
[Windows Phone 7 General] itpromike:
If Microsoft really wants to show up in the game and be ready to fight to get their mobile share back then they need to come prepared to play ball with any team... that simple. It's not rocket science... If Zune needs a rewrite, then so be it. You think iTunes was a direct port? Under the hood, iTunes for OS X and for Windows are quite different, albeit the Windows version does suck to high heaven lol but at least it's there and available. I'd love to get a Windows Phone 7 device as I've owned other Windows Mobile devices and this one seems like the first one that I won't want to take back within the first day of having it. However I am not going to purchase if I'm forced to purchase a copy of Windows and virtualize a Windows OS for the sole purpose of using the phone.
[Windows Phone 7 General] CSMR:
I don't think it's that important because Mac users will tend to want iPhones.

But if you know how to user computers, I wouldn't get a phone (iphone, windows phone 7) that requires special sync software to copy files.