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[Vibrant General] zephiK:
Not to disrespect you in any form or way, I appreciate this thread to the developers but this idea has been made quite a while ago since the first-generation of Android phone (G1).

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=665957

AndroidSPIN has been around for a long time and has provided hosting for developers and their ROMs as well as a pretty organized database.
[Vibrant General] Klyentel:
Yes, I already know this. But please understand this is specifically for xda...androidspin is its own website in itself, also still has its limitations as well as ads and opens new pages/tabs for downloads. My service does not do that, and is without limits.
[Vibrant General] Klyentel:
That is very helpful, and I appreciate it. But no I have no monthly cap, and I pay for my services once per year.
[Vibrant General] natecglenn:
Kudos to you sir

Sent from my Samsung Vibrant
[Vibrant General] hkfan:
try it and soon you will get email from your hosting company of over usage. Unlimited in your contract means nothing.

They might make you pay for overusage by saying that you abused their network.
[Vibrant General] kizer:
Congrats I wish I had an unlimited bandwith host. I can get away with gigs of storage, but they caped me around 60gig a month.

Anyways hope it works out.
[Vibrant General] 98classic:
good luck, ive tried this a few times but seems like devs like those crappy upload sites. i'm gonna take a guess and say you are on a site like hostgator or something with "unlimited" bandwidth, watch it cuz its only unlimited untill you use to much resources.
[Vibrant General] Gad13:
Just an idea.

Why don't we create a distributed system using available tools/software like torrent files.

We need one or more torrent server/tracker and list of volunteers to be reliable seeders. Once you sign as a seeder, you will receive a list of # files you'll seed 24/7 until you receive an updated list.

I don't mind seeding 5-10 files 24/7.

We can retire any file at any time if there is no interest and archive it.

By archiving i mean switch to more "standard" way of hosting it like http or ftp access.

And when a new release is out the downloading will be even faster.
[Captivate General] vintagephone:
Just loaded the official JH7 release and took my scooter for a ride. Captivate in my left front pants pocket, so it sits face down on my thigh, back (battery) side facing up toward the sky. Actually, it looks very good. Before the ride, lock was very good, lots of satellites and all locked very quickly. And the track looks excellent. I'll be curious how this works in a week... whether it degrades as the other one appeared to. But at the moment I am tentatively happy. Note the scooter ride averaged 20.82 mph, max speed of 38. So this was not a slow walking track. And yes I went up and down those blocks making a pattern to test the GPS. ;-)

Please post your test results of JH7 in this thread so we can compare.

Carl
[Captivate General] ptc62:
I am in no way trying to be disrespectful, or an a$$ even though the following may seem like I am:

Did you search the forums before posting this? I started a thread similar to this not 20 minutes ago. I personally do not care to be the OP but I am posting here to explain that this is the reason we 2312 different threads about the same dang thing (today's update). It is impossible to search for information because everyone seems to feel the need to post their own thread.

Again no disrespect, I am not trying to dampen your enthusiasm for this but just would like some organization so that people (me :) ) won't have to read 30 different threads to get some information. I will ask the XDA gods to merge our threads maybe???
[Captivate General] heygrl:
I was looking for a thread like this not 15 minutes ago. Finding it in this cluster of posts isn't easy.
[Captivate General] vintagephone:
ptc62, Maybe if you had named your original post usefully, or had actually posted some test data yourself, I would have noticed it. Was I supposed to search for "million dollar question"? I understand your frustration as I HAVE kept up with the other threads and its a lot of work. But it's true I don't read the ones with ambiguous titles. As it is, your comment only disrupts an otherwise useful thread. Oh well. Sorry for any angst I have caused you.
[Captivate General] SlimJ87D:
Your "Million Dollar Question" topic tittle is very misleading. I wouldn't blame Vintage for not being able to find it and starting a new thread. You should have been more specific. "Today's update" can mean anything in the title.

Vintagephone, thank you for making a thread with a proper title. Thank you for your test results. Now I can stock you because I know your scooter route :), lol jk. I use to live in Irvine, kinda close by. I'm glad the GPS looks like it's working kind of well in CA.
[Captivate General] RexEscape:
This is a useful thread. Don't worry. It's very specific to JH7 -and- GPS. Plus, the thread TITLE is perfect. Great post.

My test... using the GPS Test app, it took about 45sec to lock on the first try. After it locked, I rebooted the phone. The next time it locked, it took only about 15sec.

On a sidenote, I'm still having problems with the Use Wireless Networks triangulate my location. I have that checked and Use GPS unchecked. I had Google Maps (the latest version) try to use the wireless networks to get My Location but it says "Your current location is temporarily unavailable." Something is up.

On a much side(r) note, PC Connection (for tethering) is gone. Accessing GPS settings via phone dialer is gone. YouTube widget has rotating feature videos, and the screen brightness settings that used to be the dimmest possible became much dimmer.
[Captivate General] ScottyNuttz:
I did a track using My Tracks for my ride home from work and it was pretty bad, actually. It was an 8 mile ride, and it completely lost my location (stopped recording on default settings) 3 times. There were times when it worked flawlessly, but other times when it just connected the dots taking me off the road... So far, I am not very impressed. However, it is functional enough to use location-based apps and do some navigation (but I wouldn't rely on it completely, you'll end up in a ditch).
[Captivate General] Ikonomi:
Here's a track I recorded this afternoon. 7.52 mi, 31.62 mph average speed, 61.04 mph max speed. Blame afternoon traffic. There is one inexplicable gap, and one spot where the track veers off to the center of the freeway. The latter was while driving next to/under a raised expressway, so perhaps it's sort of excusable? I dunno.

Overall, though, the GPS worked GREAT on this drive. It's not perfect, but it's about 500 times better than it ever was before this patch. Previously, it would show me going completely off the road, and making loops at intersections. Not usable at all. But for now, I am tentatively impressed with this fix. Only time will tell if performance will degrade as in the past, but right now it's working so well it's astonishing.

The only distressing part is that the GPS got a 10 meter, 7 satellite lock on me... in the bathroom with no windows... on the... toilet. :eek:
[Captivate General] WD333:
OK, here are my real world GPS test results after installing the new update:

Just drove home from work, about 24 miles. I drive through residential, heavily wooded, congested business and open highway areas. The GPS locked on within seconds of me starting up Google Navigation. It was spot on for almost the whole trip. Only when I was stopped for a period of time (i.e. at a traffic light) would it cause a hiccup when locating me. For example, at one stop light, it located me about 30-50 yards to my right on the road perpendicular to me. But as soon as I started moving, it picked me up correctly. Overall, it appears that the GPS issues have been improved. Probably not completely fixed, but it was a good experience compared to before the update.
[Captivate General] vintagephone:
Thanks everyone with your test results! May I ask you to add where you had your GPS? Direct view of the sky? Through windshield? Hidden under under your dash? Locked in your trunk? ;-)
[Captivate General] WD333:
I was holding it for a little while, but then placed it in my cup holder by my shifter, then on the passenger seat. Either spot, it didn't lose its GPS lock.
[Captivate General] ptc62:
Has anyone with the knowhow attempted to see what it is exactly that was changed?
[Captivate General] Ikonomi:
It was sitting on the passenger seat during my drive. I don't have a car mount for it yet.
[Captivate General] modest_mandroid:
Tested mine today on my drive home after flashing JH7. It worked great (though mine worked decent on JF6). It found 8 satellites instantly after opening my gps test app, and locked on to 6 in under a minute. I drove home on the freeway for about 30 minutes with the phone in a car dock doodad and it never lost a single satellite lock.
[Captivate General] NFauteux:
I had flashed the vibrant files onto my captivate before and GPS worked amazing. I updated and yes it could find me indoors and outside, but the actual GPS lock was pretty much a street away from my actual location. It also lost lock multiple times. I am restoring my phone back to the way it was before the update. My GPS could get a lock indoors with no circle around me and it was 10x more accurate than it is after the update.
[Captivate General] Archpope:
I tried to do the update earlier today, and it said it failed. I didn't think much of it. I went for a walk in the park later, and turned on My Tracks, thinking it would be a good 'control' to see how much better the new update would be once I got it working.

It took <10 seconds to lock, but I was outside in a park. After it got a lock, I hit record, put the phone in my pocket, and walked around the park.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=U...68140665381380.000490e8a97287c8ebf1b&t=h&z=18

It's pretty much dead on, off by no more than a couple of meters anywhere.

When I got home, I checked back at the forums, where it was pointed out to me that for some people, the update claimed to fail, but actually updated. I checked my About screen, and sure enough, it updated.

So, while I don't recall it being particularly "bad" outside before, with the new update, it worked just fine in my pocket.
[Captivate General] alkiter:
If your GPS seems fixed, please post your GPS settings. My update didn't complete successfully and GPS now is worse than before.
[Captivate General] ScottyNuttz:
Here are some examples of errors from my track. It got me thinking: could the Body Glove case be getting in the way? I'll test it naked this afternoon.

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[Captivate General] themicrofish:
won't let me link to another thread because I'm new but....
[Captivate General] hitchb:
This was a quick walk from my car to work this morning using My Tracks. It should show straight lines along the aisles but apparently the GPS still thinks I jump back and forth 30 feet at a time. The phone was in my front pants pocket, battery side out. JH7 was applied successfully yesterday. I'd say GPS isn't fixed.

I have to add I haven't had many problems with Runkeeper and GPS. The paths it records are almost perfect. Why My Tracks and most other GPS programs have such a big problem I have no idea.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] CaliCL9:
Direct linux os boot is coming soon. Thanks to cotulla and all the devs..!!! Check the link below for more information!!

http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Leo/Magldr
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] joshkoss:
SWEEEEEEEEEET!!!!:cool::cool:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] juanzho11:
Awesome those are greatest news ever
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] sorodrigo:
exelent¡¡¡¡¡¡ cotulla

viva cotulla¡¡¡¡¡
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Dust2Dust:
It would have been nice if cotulla was given the chance to post this kind of news himself....
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] freeweb:
Awesome news :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] low-dogg:
This is probably one of the best news i have heard in my adult life..

My god there is gonna be some donations!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bbezja1:
hooraah for the built in tetris xD
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] prosto:
http://twitter.com/CotullaCode
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] partie:
Great news...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] CaliCL9:
Yeah I fallow his twitter.. Just posting this for the people who don't ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] partie:
The ONLY thing I'll miss on winmo is nanogrove.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] lian_diary:
GREAT.....

tonight cannot sleep...:p
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Beretta93:
The wiki has been made by dcordes based on cotulla's information.

Cotulla is still working on magldr. It's working, but not ready yet. Still some way to go guys.

There is a video on youtube of HD2 running tetris from cotulla's magldr, but it's private. You can find it by looking for "HD2 tetris" in youtube's search, but you can't view it.

MagLdr is not open though. Rights reserved to cotulla and his team. ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Ultimaex:
Do you even read what you post? Wiki says:

NOTE2: No release date is known as this is developed by few people and they don't detail on this.

You know what i mean?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kendimce:
non private youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMG9-YYBG-g&feature=player_embedded
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Dream Time:
To be honest... i don't trust closed source apps.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] the_scotsman:
To be honest, I'm not at all excited about this. It's nothing new except no WM is needed.

I'll be happy if/when we can flash Android to the NAND.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] BoneMo:
NAND ROM

at http://cotulla.pp.ru/leo/Android/ there is some 1.rar and if you open it ...it looks like files we are booting with haret....so maybe it could be first NAND try :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] blackwalker:
I respect the great and hard work, but i Agree!

I'll never use a closed source apps, never!

i agree!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] joshkoss:
he hasn't announced what it is, and or if you can use it. password protected private files..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Fa1n7:
I think you can flash Android using this tool. It says: or two Linux-based OS's can be launched; one from NAND and one from SD.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] BoneMo:
yeah i know i just say that passworded content looks like Android folder on SDcard so..I hope it could be NAND content
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Beretta93:
Wiki :

I think it is pretty much clear : Android will be running from NAND.

Meaning that different android builds can be running on NAND, since yaffs2 is the partition type used for OSs on NAND. And with different kernels furthermore.

That's how I see things for my part, and by reading cotulla's depiction on HTC-Linux it makes much sense this way.

From what I understood, cotulla is pissed to see some people taking his open source jobs, patching it and not sharing their work with him then. And I think any one could understand that.

@ kendimce : thanks a lot ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] the_scotsman:
Yep, I misread that...I read it again and can see what he means now...looking forward to it then ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Beretta93:
http://irclog.netripper.com/?chan=htc-linux

You can read today's conversation between dcordes and cotulla for further understanding. ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] galapogos01:
When the current kernel builds don't allow audio to be played and most builds have gsensor and call issues, one must ask why you would want to overwrite a WM rom which allows you to use the device AS A PHONE with a build that makes it a colourful paperweight!

Come on guys, what's the deal?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] stelucas1984:
The deal is that WinMo is dead. As we won't be getting windows phone 7 anytime soon Android is the way forward. No one forces you to leave winmo, i may even hang on to it myself. If you find the right build, audio and call issues are fine, and getting better ever day. There are very little flaws with android on the HD2, some official android devices don't run it as well as our phones do :)

It's all about choice.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] the_scotsman:
Call issues? I've had no call issues?

And it would seem likely that they have ways around the audio issue (or are working on them), otherwise they wouldnt be doing this.

Patience young grasshopper :p

And personally, I think WM is way outdated....no one is supporting it...how many apps do you see from say banks, or other big companies that support Android and iPhone, but not WM...LOTS...and with WP7, any WM prior to this is going to be quickly forgotten about by the main players in the app world.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Beretta93:
I don't know what you're talking about. I'm running on android since months now, without major issues. And I think most people here use it as main OS very day so...bye bye WinMo, welcome Android.

But it's true that NAND drivers are bringing new issues, like the "pipe voice" cotulla has been mentionning. But that guy is like some kind of genius so I am not worried : Android will be running on NAND flawlessly by the end of the month MARK MY WORDS. :cool:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] adamvanner:
Dont get over excited or too impatient.

As is absolutely unsurprising for such a tricky and complex undertaking, sounds they are encountering quite a few problems. It sounds like a functional let alone stable build might be a while off.

As far as I understand it, using haRET sidesteps a lot of issues that they are coming across for the first time for the HD2 hardware.

I suppose an analogy would be swapping the engine from a Golf GTI into a normal Golf, rather than putting a BMW engine into the same Golf... slightly!:o

Just give them the time, space and respect! :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Beretta93:
I have been following Cotulla and other devs on HTC-Linux for a few days now and it is true that they encountered new hardware driver issues but they fixed most of them so quickly that it made me be that optimistic.

Those guys are really something.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] anap40:
I'd rather see a bug free version of Android running from SD first. Even then I wouldn't get rid of the ability to dual boot WinMo
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] adamvanner:
Yes, moving to NAND would be a 'final' stage of this development of a new working platform. If I'm to use a phone on a day to day basis, I really dont want to be reflashing it every few days as new builds emerge. Whilst this flurry of development, both in use and performance and stability is happening, it makes sense to use the HARET / SD card builds because that method is totally flexible and its very easy to test, backup, restore etc. I've got several builds that Ive copy on and off my phone to test- something that would be a lot more hassle on NAND!

I'm not clear as to whether Cotulla and co are developing a kernel which works with MAGLDR, or more likely, they are customising MAGLDR (or a dependent driver layer) to work with the HD2, upon which any one of the existing android roms would sit.

If they are tweaking MAGLDR, I assume ROM development will remain as open and flexible as it is with HARET / SD cards, albeit slightly more hassle!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] adamvanner:
I'd also add that if a 100% fully functional, fast and stable build of Android existed with as good battery life as WM on the HD2, I really cant see any reason to want dual boot to WM,.. unless thats to WM7,.. which now, if reports are true and that the HD7 is in fact 100% identical hardware to HD2, may not be that hard.

...the only further question is do you want to run WM7, which basically seems like MS looked at Apple and took all the evil, lawyer motivated, inbuilt obsolescence, lock-down aspects of iOS, with no flexibiltiy, access, SD card, no direct data access etc. It single handedly removes all the remaining appealing aspects of WM, making it look like a poor iOS with some xbox labels on. Shame cos I really liked coding the managed C# stuff on WM.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jdmitr:
I use my phone for my business and it is very reliable...I only run android...sure it isnt perfect but I have just as many bugs with Android as I did with a WM rom. Correct me if I am wrong but I am sure that running Android off of Nand instead of the memory card will free up a lot of the bugs/freeze issues or at least make more direct paths to systems instead of work arounds.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Showtime7:
There's no harm in giving NAND a try, it's basically the same as trying a WM rom. You don't like it, flash back to a stable build.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] depakjan:
Enlighten me!!

1. Why is this a new feature.. is'nt this is what we are doing right now??..

2. MAGLDR is the new bootloader does that mean our HTC bootloader will be gone completely??..

3. Can i COMPLETELY get back to previous environment after i use this method?.. if not i will never use it.. booting from SD is more than enogh for me..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Alhaddad:
indeed :) :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] galapogos01:
Agree WM6 is outdated, but i'd rather a working Android build from SD than a half assed NAND boot.

The issues i'm talking about: power-on freeze, g-sensor/movement freeze (requiring you to disable g-sensor), stuttering audio playback, echo voice (oversensitive mic) or quiet calls (depending on kernel), and area code prefix issues are all covered in the latest build threads, even in the EVO kernel, go take a look.

If there was some brain power spent on these issues we would have a much more usable platform even if restricted to SD.

I have used my android build for weeks with g-sensor and quiet-voice issues and despite the limitations it's great, but to say that it's ready to replace WM is a bit premature...

Just my 2c.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zarathustrax:
Agreed... if everyone wasn't acting so impatient asking for nand boot, cotulla would have probably been spending his time fixing all the issues & getting the SD booting versions working better. We are going to have the same problems and more booting from nand... just look at the development history of the other couple winmo devices that can boot Android from nand... the SD booting versions are still more functional on them last I checked. The only thing that may improve slightly is battery consumption. Remember... everything still runs from RAM regardless of whether its loaded from nand or SD. Android is gonna run the same, just with nand booting there may be issues initiating certain hardware.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] huansp:
I'm waiting for it
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] arifqur:
LOL thats so funny. Maybe you need to to get out more. You haven't been living your life man.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pixine786:
rightly said.. it's all about choice. If not then what he is doing here anyway. Will he take the blue pill? LoL

Thanks stelucas