yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Lcsglvr:
Ya I hear you. I have already uninstalled a lot of junk. I'm sure there's more but don't want to take a chance of deleting something important.

But, ya, I can already hear the 'where is X' if you take something out.

Also, on a positive note, great rom.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] IncredibleDoes:
I say we vote!!!

lol or just make a lite version...???

ID
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Dat108Kat:
Definitely not a bad idea
[Droid Incredible Android Development] srt4mn:
I say do it the way you want to do it. If someone doesn't like it, there are plenty of other ROMs to choose from.

Great work, keep it up ID!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Lcsglvr:
Hm could make a lite version or just post what can and can't be deleted.. or just write an add-off (?) script for people to download that automatically deletes a lot of the extra bulk.

Ya do whatever floats your boat.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] animal1967:
Lite version would be cool ID. Can you freeze the apps in titanium backup with this rom? Cant wait for this baby to mature....so sweet!!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Lcsglvr:
I have also noticed, at least with king kernel 5, that Sense becomes very unstable if overclocked above 1.13
[Droid Incredible Android Development] eViL D::
Nice progress. ;)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] lobo4806:
i think you should remove them and just include them in a separate zip file that people can add later. you cant please everyone bro. do what you gotta do to make it right and run good for the majority.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Lcsglvr:
Hehe, I agree that an add-on would be better than my above suggestion of an add-off!

This rom is really quite sick if you get rid of the bloat and some extra non-essential stuff.

On a random note, this is a great night for me, because I am fiddling with this and watching a season of Seinfeld. I a sad, sad life, indeed.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] lobo4806:
dude. you are bad ass. i love this. my buddy just got a sprint evo. im gonna show him up with this. im thinkin of leaving it all stock homescreen and all too. the new sense looks effin tight. thanks so much bro, in my eyes, you are up there among mighty from when i had a touch pro 2...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] apristel:
Sorry but we on the EVO have the same port...

:)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] wsantiagow:
A few bugs on my EVO

I flashed the DesireHD_Port_EVO.zip and there are a couple of bugs. When in the Mail client (with Exchange Server configured), the phone reboots at times. Another one is, that it does not recognize my SD card (16 GB Class6). And of course the obvious, camera does not work.

Thanks Dev!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] lobo4806:
yea but my buddy is scared to root. so he will be jealous.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] pbnj4640:
im gonna run this for the day to check it out, 2 bugs i havent seen reported yet

doesnt have landscape (thought that was a new sense feature)

emmc doesnt appear to be mounted (havent tested with astro yet to see if its the same issue as CM6)

the fast bootup is too awesome!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
Reports look interesting, but I think I'll wait for the next version. Too busy to Beta test! :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] khukman:
Mirror?

Can someone mirror this somewhere else? I can't get Multiupload to work for me. It keeps giving me errors when I try to download it (timeout, file to big, etc.). I've tried it 3 or 4 times, and I get the same thing... I'm anxious to get a look at this ROM.

Thanks!!

Rob

HTC Incredible

Testing MIUI Rom

I love the freedom and power of Android!!!!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] djh816:
maps navigation seems to be having some issues still but aside from that and the camera, this is a solid build. i love the new sense features!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] touchpro247:
The Metal_test theme is hot... :cool:

Thank you ID
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ACD168:
DAMNN wered u get that??
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ACD168:
Going to take a Managerial Accounting test(Wish me luck lol) Then, I'm coming home to flash my freshly downloaded ROM, thanks IncredibleDoes. you da mang.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] touchpro247:
HTC you can dl it once you sign up. :D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ACD168:
Cool thanks bro, I haven't loaded teh ROM yet so ill check it out later today, cant wait..
[Droid Incredible Android Development] stickstickly:
I am so ready for this ROM. v0.2 I gotta be a lame-o and need a camera. Anyone know the current bugs so far?

Also is HTC planning to port New Sense to existing devices in 3.0 rollouts or what?

These new Sense features look great people are complaining about fragmentation but HTC is doing something right.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ACD168:
2.15.00.09.01 - is this NEEDED, or SUGGESTED?

used to say ud have to be on 2.x radio before 2.2 was official and i used to run 2.2 roms withh 1.x radio, no problems camcorder i didnt care about..
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Amin Sabet:
I'm about to try it with 2.15.00.07.28...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] russphil:
I was just gonna stick with my MIUI, but a 3 second boot?!?!?!?!? How'd they even manage that. I'd love to see other roms with similar boot times.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] DroidHam:
Can someone post some screen shots?

Whats so great about this rom? I'm not sure I understand...

Im using RedemptionRom right now, how is this different/better?

What kernels work with it?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] pbnj4640:
expect beta testing results, some **** isnt working completely. if you're asking these questions, stick with redemption
[Droid Incredible Android Development] icountFOR2:
no emmc for this ROM either =[

still another great job loving all your roms
[Droid Incredible Android Development] RLKirk:
Just keep black board the one from the first build and I'm game... the one from the latest builds as been the black board Test 1, and I don't like it near as much plus the official black board is not available on HTC hub so just keep that in mind lol... I do have the file so I can install it myself so do as you please lol
[Droid Incredible Android Development] WingHater:
Anyone get mms to work yet worth 4.0? If so please help.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] meekehleh:
Dude, please make a clean, light version. I hate all the bloat that comes with most roms. Simply include a separate .zip for people to install the optional apps. I want this rom badly -- been waiting for it to clean up a bit. Sitting on Virt. 3 w/BFS #5.

Appreciate what you've been doing here man.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] RdBrd83:
+1 for lite version.

I think unfortunately no matter what you do, there's going to be a lot of "why didn't you include ___" or "Why did you include ___"

I say do whatever tinkering with it you want. If nobody has sense enough to pull the apps out of the other versions that they just can't live without, then that's their problem. ;)

Or if you just want to leave everything well enough alone and go with the full stock experience, that's cool too. Just don't burn yourself out on rom making until after Gingerbread leaks. :D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] faddys123:
Can you give me the file for he blackboard theme ?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] the_incredible_z:
I just installed 0.4. When I hit the personalize button, then wallpaper, I get an FC for htc.rosieutility. Any ideas?????
[Droid Incredible Android Development] xwera43:
I'm just confused why more things have broken in this version. While the OP states that YouTube login is possible, several people cannot. Also, the MMS fix that worked in the past no longer works and the update removal of a /data/data/<directory_name_I_cannot_remember> does not seem to work either.

As far as the YouTube app goes, I flashed back the the OTA version and the apps are the same version (you may know this ID since your putting it all together, just found it odd). I've tried logging in over Wi-Fi and 3G and while in 3G I can see that the app doesn't even attempt to access the data network. You had mentioned you added "social network provider (might fix facebook sync)" but oddly I had no problems syncing with Facebook in v0.3.0.

Since you're still running an sd-ext partition I'm going to assume this has nothing to do with anything. However, I do know that there were a lot of issue reports with v0.3.1 that were not reported with v0.3.0. I'm wondering if something odd happened in both the v0.3.1 & v0.4 builds that wasn't in v0.3.0?

As far as deleting bloatware... If it can be downloaded or installed by other means (an update.zip for example) I think getting rid of it is good.

Any thoughts as to a fix for YouTube login for some as well as an MMS fix? Just seems odd to me.

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[Droid Incredible Android Development] xwera43:
From the links of my second post in my review, here's a link to touchpro247's thread that should have the Skins you're looking for.

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[Droid Incredible Android Development] Upstreammiami:
Can someone check this for me my weatherbug app is all out of shape ?

Edit: never mind I fixed it with lcd density
[Droid Incredible Android Development] douger1957:
Does the camera work with this ROM? :p :D :rolleyes:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Stated many times, nope.

I will install every release and test it then go back to my backup until the camera is fixed. I then fully plan to keep it when all the critical stuff is working.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Upstreammiami:
some one didn't get the joke lol
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
RESPONSE: To question on "bloatware"

RESPONSE: To question on "bloatware"

My personal opinion is to keep everything in and let the user remove what they don't want for this package. It is not like the factory ROM where you need to go the extra step to root since you are already rooted.

On the other hand, I remove Skype, CityID, VzNav, Flickr, Amazonmp3, and Stock immediately on any ROM I install if it is there so I have no problem with them being gone. However, I know people do use them

I do like the idea of a full ROM and a lite ROM once it stabilizes. And of course on the Lite anything that is removed would be nice if a working version was available as a script, update or apk in one common repository.

Thanks for all your work

Nils
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ctinsley:
I had the same issue when flashing over v3 to v4. a clean wipe and install of v4 resolved this for me
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Grizzly420:
I say we do your way keep doing what you are doing. By the way does the camera work? JUST A KIDDING LOL
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Now I get it Haha
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ctinsley:
I don't mind a lite version once everything works....ie camera but what drawls people to this Rom right now is the ability to try out the new and full HTC experience and if things are missing right now there is no easy way to get them so people are kinda stuck.

as an example v2 was a light Rom and I was truly bummed to see all the new stuff missing that I found in v1. But I was stuck with no way of getting them back. V3 added even more stuff and its nice to know its there if I want to try it out.

Bloatware to me is the carrier added stuff such as vznav & city id and not the oem customization. But I know to some people sense itself is bloatware.

Id please keep the full HTC experience going till we have some other options out there for this Rom then I wouldnt mind seeing a trimmed version but right now your our only option so what ever you do is our only option.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] douger1957:
I think part of the problem with removing junk is knowing what the interdependencies are...like taking Friend Stream out and not having Facebook working.

I'm sure that takes some time to work out the kinks.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] JaydenR:
I agree. Let us remove the bloat.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mrchambo:
Down with bloat!

jc
[Droid Incredible Android Development] douger1957:
I'd be all for that too.

But one man's bloat is another's necessity.

I have noticed that this ROM takes far longer to boot from a cold start than most any other ROM I've used...and I've tried almost all of them that aren't AOSP.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] dude0909:
Sorry, Double Post
[Droid Incredible Android Development] dude0909:
All Hydra Kernels should work with this Rom seeing as it's 2.2 and sense. You can find them here Hydra Kernels
[Droid Incredible Android Development] busterbrown77:
Is anyone experiencing serious lag and frequent crashes while music/pandora is playing?

Music eventually slows the phone to a crawl if multitasking, and pandora 80% crashes, leaving a toast on the screen which crashes sense. Fixing both usually needs a reboot, or you will be sitting there for a while looking at a frozen phone.

And i still havent gotten then apn method for mms to work, no go on email, and no sound enhancements.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jasonb1985:
i experience lag when streaming music from Rdio. after a while system panel will show 100% cpu usage and the phone becomes useless.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] pbnj4640:
ive officially gone back to CM for now, i REALLY like the new sense, but theres too many quirks in this rom. cant go into network setting, camera, random crashes, cannot overclock to even 1.113 which i do on every other rom, system will mysteriously start crawling, mms cannot be repaired no matter what i do, browser crashes regularly for me. hopefully more devs will work with this and take it somewhere special.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] douger1957:
Me too. I'm going back to Virtuous.

I thank ID for all of the effort he's put into this to get it this far. The new Sense is full of sweetness and good, but this ain't anywhere near ready for prime time.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] nat4mac:
I

vote

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NO

bloat

!

:D:D:D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] CykloneFij:
Indeed this new Sense is simply gorgeous!

However, have to agree with a lot of peeps here that it is too slow when multitasking.

Seriously love it though, and will try it again when it goes through a few more updates.

Back to Virtuous for now.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] superchilpil:
Disagree! This rom is perfect as is besides a few things like camera

If he does strip it down i hope he creates two copies
[Droid Incredible Android Development] xwera43:
Did you ever get MMS to work? I've tried everything you listed in the few messages you posted on the subject without any luck. If so, can you please list your process?

TIA

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[Droid Incredible Android Development] le0.br4zuc4:
I hope this Rom remains as it is, if people want a lite version its fine but keep this one as it is
[Droid Incredible Android Development] JaydenR:
Agreed. Lets leave it as is.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] drnelly:
ditto, this will be a dream of a rom when things get ironed out... let others remove stuff at their heart's content
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Upstreammiami:
i found the fix to mms!!!!!

first send a sms to the contact saying "ill send you the picture by email"..

then go to your gmail click menu then compose enter his email attach the picture...

it works great!!! donate here

LMFAO
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Casbah:
Not using it (yet) but I've not had a problem removing pretty much whatever I wish. Only thing I have an issue with is that even with FLIKR and Facebrat removed, they still popup under the Photo menu when I long press to share it. :P Not sure how to get rid of that but it's for another thread.

Keep the ROM as is and let people take out what they want..
[Droid Incredible Android Development] nejc1337:
Isn't this the famous 3-second boot? Or maybe it takes so long only for the first time?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Casbah:
I haven't seen a ROM yet that doesn't take a much longer time starting the first time after a fresh flash...most devs say ~6-10 min.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] nmyeti:
This rom is a nice update of the sense UI. It will be much nicer once everything is working, but i'm impressed with where HTC is going with this.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] busterbrown77:
Same. Have you found a fix?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] JoeProcopio:
if not reported earlier......on .4, enable always-on mobile.....force closes settings.....3.1 had same issue.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] nejc1337:
OK, now it's about 20 minutes. I'll wait, maybe it's gonna work.

Thx
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Casbah:
20 min though seems a rather long time but as I said I've not flashed this so I dunno. Maybe try sending a PM to the dev? He might know or be able to advise.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] nejc1337:
****, the screen went all black and nothing happens. I can't turn it on.

EDIT: I think it was just a battery. Now it turned on.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Argent36:
pull the battery?

EDIT: nevermind :P
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Ridl3y:
I'm going to ask this a 3rd time. Does this build include a full bluetooth stack or is it still broken like old Sense? I want to use a Wiimote to play games. Can someone try it out?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Upstreammiami:
i really dont know man i dont use bluetooth
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jasonb1985:
So streaming audio has only been a problem for me and one other person

It seriously sounds ten times better, but completely crashes the phone after about 5-10 minutes.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] obsidianblackhawk:
Just a thought, instead of starting your question off in such an attacking manner (especially since this is everyone here's hobby or side project not their life), if the answer is that important. Try it your damn self. Obviously your adventurous enough to test different things from stock in the first place. If wii mote functionality is that big a deal..... then have freaking at it. Don't catch an attitude because a volunteer hasn't had a chance to answer your singular question amidst the sea of issues that are being dealt with to allow this rom to work for us in the first place.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ihtfp69:
I already checked and the bluetooth stack is basically identical. No changes were made.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Devildog8791:
I couldn't have said it better myself.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] thatdudebutch:
You just reached dbag status. Contracts.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Upstreammiami:
Drama fo yo mama
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Devildog8791:
I don't care who you are, that's funny!!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kriskmk:
Nice to see you checking out this ROM skyraider.. eagerly waiting for your cook of this one.. :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kanecb89:
Man I hope you do a skyraider of this ih, i'm using skyraider 3.2 sense right now and loving it, I've flashed to several roms and none compare in speed and stability on my phone. Every rom I flash goes through the grinder and benchmarks and bug testing for me.

Right now that I'm done being a fanboy. I'm having issues with all kingx kernels on this rom, it might be my phone or just the rom, haven't tested the hydra kernels, is anyone using a hydra with this rom? If so have there been any bugs or major issues?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gbishop18:
If you want bloated removed then do it yourself. At least with the full Rom everyone can customize to their own taste. I vote keep full or make a separate light version. This Rom is awesome by the way, great job man. I love the new sense, especially the smaller font.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] IncredibleDoes:
Bloat will not be removed, I figured it out...

ID
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jasonb1985:
Any idea whats up with streaming audio apps consuming 98-100% cpu after being used for about 5-10 minutes? Itll work fine for a few minutes and then eventually make the phone completely unresponsive. Its a shame because the audio out of the headphone jack is much much better than before. It is deffinitely much louder and seems more dynamic.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] JoeProcopio:
has this BUG been posted yet?

when using the timer inside the desk clock, you start it, then click out of the timer (hit home, screen times out whatever)....then go back in, it starts counting down from the original time.....BUT, if you hit stop, then start, it picks up at the correct time....then once that is correct, if you get out, or the phone locks,and you get back in, it starts again, at the new time, but stop start gets you right....

if left alone, timer will count down and alarm will go off correctly....
[Droid Incredible Android Development] JoeProcopio:
awesome response...it shouldn't be left up to you to remove stuff other people might want...

MAYBE, if there was a definitive list of what can be removed, or what is called what in the system/apps folder, then everyone can go in with Root Explorer, moved all apps they don't want or need out to folder on the SD card for safe keeping....

BTW, even with the bugs, this rom kicks, I'm really digging the new sense.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Wynnded:
Ummmmm....:D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Lcsglvr:
Anyone else's wireless network not work when phone comes out of hibernation? Mine only returns after I do a complete shutdown.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Wynnded:
I just tried this and I did not lose 3G.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] RYANIMOSITY:
so we expecting an update tonight IncDoes with some fixes?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] csseale:
I am soooo ready for the camera to work on this. And honestly can not wait to hear why its been such a pain.

Cory

"Results may vary."
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Lcsglvr:
Sorry, I meant after in hibernation for awhile, about a few hours.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] santana11981:
should have never answered and let him keep asking
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Nazgul07:
Sounds like a memory leak... (i assume that can happen in android?)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jasonb1985:
whats the cause and whats the solution?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gonzoguy24:
Oh my goddd flashbacks of bb storm oh goodddd
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gonzoguy24:
What did you figure out??
[Droid Incredible Android Development] RLKirk:
So if your having problems getting mms working, all I did was install skyraiders version of the desireHD and then flash ID .4 version over it and sending and receiving are both working
[Droid Incredible Android Development] izzycade:
just wondering............why the camera does not work, not a complaint... just wondering
[Droid Incredible Android Development] AdhvanIt:
A little rude in my opinion.... this is HIS ROM. If you wanted to decide what might be considered bloatware, pull the source like he did and port it for yourself.

Please be more respectful to these guys. They work their rear ends off to bring you these ROMs for free/donation... and if you know the first thing about programming/devving, its a LOT of work.

No offense to you, I simply don't think that stating that it shouldn't be up to the dev on what to do with his ROM is an appropriate way to go about this... how about this.....?

Hey ID,

Would there be a way you could zip the removed apps and throw them on the OP in case anyone wants some of them?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] fabler:
is this work for nexus one?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] lahegry:
no sorry you're in the wrong subforum;)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] RYANIMOSITY:
but why do you need to flash ID's over it if ihtfp's version has it already fixed?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Lcsglvr:
Ihtfp has this version out too?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] RYANIMOSITY:
yea check his twitter