yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] asctony:
I don't think we hate WM, I just think that WM is falling way behind the other OS such as Android and iPhone. There are many things I like about WM, but when it costs more, much more, to buy basically the same app (WM compare to Android/iPhone) that is a rip off.

Display in WM apps are not as User Friendly or clean as the other OS.

Many apps are not being produced/upgraded in WM as the others. JMHO!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Pitchb3nd:
Man is this guy (cotulla) awesome or what...

I too was going to get the Desire HD (despite the disappointing specs) but now I'm holding my horses till this baby is out to see if I can stick to my HD2 a little longer...

Anyway, despite booting from NAND, Android ROMs will still be buggy right?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] whynot66:
They'll probably be "buggier" (:-\) at least at first :-) one day I'm confident I'm the not too distant future well have a full bug free hd2 Android phone
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] slvrbllt:
@Sichroteph and Pagnell

I have really appreciated your replies. I'll give your suggestions a try as soon as I get back home.

Thank you guys.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Beefheart:
Preferring Android doesn't equate to hating Windows Mobile. And like it or not the HD2, purely due to it having a capacitive screen, is more suited to Android. Windows Mobile 6 was never designed for finger use where as Android, like the iPhone, was designed for that from day 1.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] lonelykatana:
Ladies, dont turn this into a why android is better/winmo is better or a why do you all hate winmo so much thread please?

This thread is about the NAND project, if you dont want NAND why bother reading? :)

This is great news, well done Cotulla!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] :
pro and cons

Yeah awesome news....but....i still have warranty on my device (im hspl'ed now, but i can revert). flashing winmo seems almost impossible to brick your phone, i think it is even impossible dues to hard spl, but this method cotulla talks about, will we be at any risk of bricking?

And also, do you guys think the rom will be as steady as current android builds, or we are back to square one?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] vtruth08@yahoo.com:
We will be taking a step back because we currently use some of Wm drivers to make android function properly but I think the big man wont release nand til the have the basic things functional like call text data, etc
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] BLAST3RR:
Don't think he'd release something that has an potential high risk of bricking the phone without a big fat bold red coloured warning above all available download links ;)..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] scottishdude:
excellent work folks, been hoping this would come soonish, though am not holding my breath as am sure you all know, the iron board will stay out for some time to come, with a few creases to be ironed out, anyhow very exiting news,

i don't know about how the feeling is around the community about android on the hd2, I am tired of all the threads about this, like

"why buy a windows mobile phone if you want android, buy a native phone,"

in a perfect world where expensive contracts don't exist and people can afford to spend willy nilly buying smartphones at their will, but a though the whole point of the community was to unlock the hidden features of the smart phone and provide the end user with the most awarding experience as possible,

therefore I would just like to say thanks for all the work the folks at xda do for the world wide community, honest folks, stuff of legend, ps if the hd2 runs android via nand as well as we hope then excellent, if not thanks for the effort folks, most of us appreciate the hard work
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] juanreboiras:
realice

sorry for my question but i want know if somebody know where is for download this new rom witch android. I m very ansius and nervius for this job. Congratulation for Cotulla and teem. Thanks.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Geno-X:
Rom is not yet available to the public, still being fine tuned.

°°°Hyperdroid Blueprint°°°
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] k87:
Do yall think that any of the guys can post a utube video as to how to install/flash this nand rom on the tmobile hd2 successfully, once it comes out?

Dont want to mess anything up
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jquill:
To the OP

Will the Nand rom include features from the newly released (and shadily deleted) Ace rom? PLEASE SAY YES! I can't live without the new version of sense.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] GbrilliantQ:
Looking forward to it. I got an OTA system update download message tonight.... lol It doesn't want to install. NAND should fix this eh. :cool:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Marvlesz:
i assume it's going to be like a normal hd2 ROM, except it won't be flashable via HSPL.

when the ROM is out, Devs. are probably going to post an instruction for us (newb's) :Biggrin:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] HTC_HDD:
Ohh.. i hope we have not to wait to long for the first stable ROMs. I cannot wait anymore :P

I will definitely donate something to the devs, if the first stable roms are avaiable :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] :
Great news from the dev's they have done such a great job in the past months making this so stable is amazing, looking forward to nand,
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] victorscarlo:
To cotulla and all the developers working tirelessly to get this fine operating system burned to our phones, you guys are truly amazing! Donations are not enough though, I believe after all is said and done, we hd2 owners should chip in and send ya on vacation for a week! I would be willing to drop 100 towards it. With all people b******* and complaining and you not having time for yourself, i think its the least we could do!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Marvlesz:
Totally correct, !!

I agree, and i'm willing to drop too ( NO, seriously we do ! )

I dont even have the expression in words :eek::D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] m4f1050:
I wish I had the 100 to give towards this, but been unemployed over a year and a half and struggling... :(

But my feelings and intentions are the same, you guys deserve it! I have donated 20 here and there to a few devs but that's all I can do at the moment, and thank you guys for your hard work!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] DroidDavi:
Ok so nand would mean android would be running from the phone and not the sd card?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Moon2:
correct you are
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Stephen:
Just imagine folks NAND build with the desire rom what a combination :) This would blow all other phones out of the water :) I was laughing at my colleuge today who has just sold his hd2 and bought a motrola droid so he can have android with a keyboard :/
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] danny_wasp:
Ooooh for a Facebook style "effing loves this" button!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] m4f1050:
Whatever happened to that PD42100 that was coming out? Keyboard, 1.2ghz, blah blah blah?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] deadey3:
+5 to that :D... this would be gr8 for the devs
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tarunkrsna:
when it is going to be launched

when it is going to be launched:)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] k87:
Itd be great to have a countdown..itll be more exciting that way..and the developers wont procasiante either... :p
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] vodanhdaisu:
Can't wait to try Android on HD2, frankly, i've never installed any Android-on-SD rom, i've waited for this Android-on-nand rom for so long, and that day is coming.

Thank Cotulla and his fellows for this great work.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ducklas1:
+1 definitely
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pt0x:
Same here, I bought this phone because I was thinking it was possible to run Andoid native on it in the future, super dope that is actually going to happen soon now!

Thumbs up guys!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] inny2:
I doubt any developer of this kind is giving out ETA's. Most probably **** will happen on the way or slack somewhere or more issues to be solved. ETAs will just make things worse for both sides.

As least we can conclude in a way that is gonna be released in September, sort of.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] whynot66:
Just do you know Android is currently running almost perfect from SD
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] m4f1050:
LOL I'd be careful with the +'s they might think you are willing to donate 500... :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] KrewsialNL:
Wow, if it's going to be as easy as 1,2,3, to flash back to WinMo in case of problems, why not :)

Though I am using Android on a daily basis from SD, i'm not complaining at all :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] m4f1050:
In most phones if they don't mess with the bootloader there should be no problems booting in bootloader and reflashing the phone...our HTC phones are good like that...! :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] EclipseX:
if cotulla can do that and run android without issues...I will donate 100$ to him :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] norman505:
I believe cotulla will only get you to put Android to NAND, so that you don't have to boot it from a SD card. Beside that, everything else will actually be the same (boot to WinMo first, then load android). Also, existing problems with android build for leo (if any) would be the same as well.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] DN41:
nope, what sould be really better then?

android will completly replace winmo.

so that you boot android right when you power on your phone.

i think some problems like battery drain will also be better then.

DN41
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] EclipseX:
or not....Cotulla working on fresh rom with android without windows....=)

and working on dual-boot =), please read irc logs
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] domineus:
major question is

android redirecting to sd card without windows or a fully functional nand sans storage card
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] whynot66:
Please can you send me a couple of links :-)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rajkosto:
a LONG way to go yet.

and yes, it is booting without WM assistance, but that's pretty much it about now.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Jammie_1989:
Are you involved with the development? If so is it a case of getting all the drivers to initialize without wm then we will have a fully working Android from NAND?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Azerox:
Wish i could just flash android to my phone, and get rid of winmo <3

Keep up the good work!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] d3l1:
+1 because I'd prefer the speed and battery advantage of NAND over SD-Cards.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] whizzkid_cool:
Definitely great news to all the leo owners! I guess all of us will donate to cotulla for their hard works as our appreciation!

I hope the biggest donor is HTC~! LOL
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] campbell.0:
Argh!!!!

No matter what setup/config I try, my battery just dies so quickly. So frustrated that I actually went back to using SPB shell just to save from using WM 6.5 bare bones.

What am I doing wrong!?!:confused::confused::confused:

Pls don't have a go about being in the wrong thread etc. I'm just replying to a comment.

;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] eskasi:
After reading the entire thread, I am just wondering what the tangible benifits of NAND flashing will be... don't get me wrong, I am excited... and personally I believe that the builds will be EVEN more stable. As stable as it is now, I am still getting the odd self reboot... and lag coming out of sleep now and then....

I would be ever so grateful if devs could give us a hint of what to expect and what improvements this has resulted in so we can all have a more tangible celebration ;)

Your efforts are very much appreciated and you guys really should have a top job at some of these phone/software companies! THanks!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] vtruth08@yahoo.com:
If they did have that kind of job who will be here to code all the things they have made possible for us? Get me?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Richy99:
better battery life for a start

should be quicker as running from internal memory rather than sd card
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] juiceppc:
I'm getting really anxious now...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Svendrae:
Do you now if a nand version will come this week or not? Somewhere I read it will come this week. But the week is over tomorrow :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] xspeed9190:
I asked this and never got a response.. Will this fix the random data connection loss as well as signal drop..i have flashed multiple radios and issue still continues
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Sichroteph:
Wrong and wrong ;-)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] lonelykatana:
Wrong, and correct.

It will save battery life, but only a minimal amount. So much most users wont tell!

Correct about the other though.

I want it on my NAND because its a damn sight eaiser to boot/put files on the phone that way
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] lonelykatana:
no, it will not.

Im not having them problems at all, either.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] henv:
On http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Leo/Magldr there is a new note wrote today

NOTE3: Expect a release soon. Very soon.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tjmm:
I'm very anxious about that!

I hope as soon as possible to change my WM to Android permanently!

Thanks Cotulla and your team!

Thiago.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tarunkrsna:
Tell me when it is going to be released. No time No countdown Nothin....... WHY?????

Can't Wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dontw:
"Initial NAND development is officially finished and will be released to the public within 24 hours (24/09/10). Please be patient and please understand that this will be an alpha build so as always proceed with caution."

new note !!!!!!!!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] deadey3:
woohoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo :D :D :D :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] appoggio:
HELL YEAH!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] xmRipper:
Where is that note ?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] HectiQ:
in his head ;) I can't see it eighter! Guess someone wants to be funny/devs -del it
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bahamutdark:
F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 xD
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RobotCaleb:
I'm trying to track down a repair part to order. I did a partial disassembly and discovered that the circuitry for the trackball reading was corroded, causing my LED to short and stay on always. I didn't take it apart enough to realize that the digitizer (which is what I ordered) didn't contain that part.

Does anyone know the name of the component I need and where I can order one?

The component I need is in the yellow box in this photo.

imgur.com/h1X5U.jpg
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GANJDROID:
Couuld anyone give me some pointers on this?

Trying to edit the look of the espresso mod, but I can't find the files I need/want.

What files do I need to change/edit to change the look of it?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ekimd:
Is there a cogent reason why the SD card cannot be partitioned without a FAT32 filesystem? From all the benchmarks I've ever seen, EXT4 kills FAT32. However, when I tried using an SD card partitioned with only an EXT4 partition, vold (the volume management daemon) wasn't happy at all.

I can manually mount the volume from the shell, but that does no good as far as android recognizing that the partition has been mounted.

I'd be willing to hack up the vold source code if it would be useful, but I just want to know if anyone has any thoughts or experience on the issue.

This question has been asked in the past, but no one has every replied to it. Is there no one with experience in this area?

Thanks
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ekimd:
bump........
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] evilkorn:
That's just what is most common and what it looks for. You could try and look at the apps2ext scripts for mounting etc.

What real performance gain could you see by using just ext4 in this scenario, my guess it nothing.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ekimd:
There's possibly no speed difference, though benchmarks with flash do show ext4 to be faster. The bigger point though is why have both an ext and fat partition, when you can have only one?

Also, I don't see why this should be an issue. 'mount' can auto-discover the filesystem type of a partition, so the only reason this shouldn't already "just work" is because vold is forcing it to be FAT. I find this ironic given that the main system partitions are actually YAFFS2.
[Off-topic] !PANDA:
I am about to trade my Desire (i am in the UK) for an iPhone (in the US)..

the thing is, I have to send my Desire first, and the other guy will only send his iPhone after he gets my Desire because he does not own anyother phones.. I dont want to lose my Desire so is there a safe way to do this?!
[Off-topic] chopper the dog:
Sell your desire first (get cash in hand). And next purchase isomething from known seller.

On the other hand if you do as proposed your story will make for a great read here in off topic.

good day.
[Off-topic] !PANDA:
and by that you mean its a scam?!
[Off-topic] Mr. Clown:
There's a 99.9% possibility that you will not get your iphone, don't you think it will a good deal on the other guy to have in hand an iphone and a desire??? ;) dude probably he already have a client for your desire :p...be careful...or if you do it..then post your story in off-topic as chopper said :p
[Off-topic] !PANDA:
isnt this the off-topic?? anyways, it was my Idea, cos I was initially trying to sell it..

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=784717

and it went on PM from there..
[Off-topic] Mr. Clown:
LoL..I thought it was from ebay...well...you can try..buy even if it is on xda...it´s always at your own risk.
[Off-topic] djteotancolis:
totally not a good idea for international..best idea sell it locally, then buy a iphone 3gs..u probably will make more money
[Off-topic] !PANDA:
the thing is an iPhone is worth more then my Desire (which is in perfect condition!).. so I wanted to trade and sell the iphone.. and get something else..
[Off-topic] souljaboy:
ull never see ur phone , the seller , or the other phone again
[Off-topic] !PANDA:
cancelled the offer, dont want to risk it :)
[Off-topic] djteotancolis:
good choice, cuz how u are going to know that once he gets your phone, that he will send you the phone. i could also show you a iphone that way but never send you one. and there is no way of tracking or blocking the phone.

best be happy with what you have
[Off-topic] chopper the dog:
attaboy.

good day.
[Off-topic] Captainkrtek:
Good call, besides, its an Iphail, who would want one of those :p

500th post :D
[Off-topic] chopper the dog:
Congrats, Colonel??...

good day.
[Off-topic] Mr. Clown:
Good call....so..we can trade your desire for my touch 2:rolleyes::D...but...you need to send me your desire first ;)
[Off-topic] Captainkrtek:
Thanks Chopper :)

BAMMMMMM PEANUT BUTTER AND JAMMMMMM :D
[Off-topic] Captainkrtek:
MY NAME IS PRINCE MUSTAFA,

I WILL SEND YOU ONE FREE IPHONE IF YOU DEPOSIT 1,000,000,000 USD VIA WESTERN MONEYGRAM. IAM THE PRINCE OF PERSIA.

hehe Mr. Clown dont scam people ;)
[Off-topic] Mr. Clown:
:eek: you caught me...:p. No more scamming Captain...cross my heart :p;)
[Off-topic] !PANDA:
Haha.. cheers guys!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] !PANDA:
got my Desire in the UK on Vodafon SIM.. will 3G work on T-Mobile US- the phone is unlocked so the SIM will work but the 3G?:confused:

I read that it might not due to different frequincies, but could that be chnged by updating/changing BaseBand or the Radio??

thanks in advance!! xx
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] foxmeister:
Nope - it does not work on US 3G and cannot be made to work either.

Regards,

Dave
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] !PANDA:
ohh, thanks for the very quick reply! you are GOD! I've seen you answer soo many question with such logic! cheers :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andyt2211:
Hi all be nice i'm a novice.

Want to change my radio cos wanted to try Android 2.2 and read i needed a different radio 2.08 upwards, currently got 2.04. Tried flashing get to the screen that shows 0% on both but then goes no further???

Rom 1.43

radio 2.04

SPL 1.42

Any suggestings please!!!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pookito:
If android 2.2 is what u want, why don't u wait a couple of days for the update. I think that android 2.2 is coming the twenty of this month.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] OrionCarl:
you NEED to flash HSPL before you flash ROMs or RADIOS
[XPERIA X10 General] vrs2610:
Hey guys I was just searching in the market place and i found this wifi editing app. After playing around with it I was able to connect to my campus's wifi, which is an enterprise connection.

Its called-Wifi Advanced Config Editor by Marcus905

Check it out here for more info.

http://myxperiax10.blogspot.com/2010/09/wifi-enterprise-connection.html
[XPERIA X10 General] dk2000zx:
LOL for me it has a free open wifi but it has a proxy on it which i cannot input into my xperia
[XPERIA X10 General] mayamo:
thank you for the link!

i was finally able to connect eduroam!!!

my uni has two options to connect..

-connect to eduroam using password, and once connected you are free to use the internet

-connect to open uni network, then input ur uni id and p/w to connect... which is FRUSTRATING if you lose a signal or something and need to reconnect...

thanks a bunch!!
[XPERIA X10 General] soldiers33:
thanks for that, will have to try it out when I go uni.
[XPERIA X10 General] Findee:
It seems to work on and off for me with my uni wifi. I found it a couple of weeks ago.
[XPERIA X10 General] mayamo:
no need for this app anymore :D

2.1 update enables enterprise wifi with peap etc.. .:D wohoooo
[XPERIA X10 General] xtrmshadow:
Hehe yup. <3 2.1...and would <3 2.2 even more :p
[XPERIA X10 General] akila87:
Me too. We can't use transproxy also. It needs iptables. I installed it but iptables is not waorking without enabling netfilter in the kernal. So we have to recompile the kernal with netfilter enabled. But it is useless because the bootloader is not hacked yet.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] laztpn0i:
I see that the Desire HD will have SRS Dolby. Does any body know if it is just a software plugin that will be possible to port over to the G2/Desire Z? And Does it really make that much of a difference in sound?
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] eleeo037037:
If I'm not mistaken I believe it already has it.