yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[EVO 4G General] 6ixtynin9:
I've had better luck. I was once placed in this exact situation. Brought my phone into Sprint to have it repair the lifting of screen. In-house techs repaired it, no questions asked (or blaming). One hour later, they called me back and issued me a new one, as their investigation determines hardware version 0002 was a manufature defect. Perhaps it's all based on locations, reps, your attitude towards them, etc. Where I'm from everyone one's laid back, reps are always friendly and don't really have to put up with too much of people's ****, because non really gives them **** to begin with. They even accept rooted phones too, where as I read that many other users have to unroot before bringing their phone into Sprint for replacement/repair.

If you don't mind paying a deductable ($100 max), call into customer service and request a replacement.

And to the dude who was previously on AT&T with iPhone, sure buddy. SURRRREEE. If you EVER had service with them, you of all people should know that AT&T & Apple will put you through hell. I should know, that's why I dropped AT&T & the iPhone 2G.
[EVO 4G General] davebu:
That is actually illegal, they have to sell it to you, I actually did the same and had to mention that it is illegal to not sell it, after mentioning that they budged and sold it to me.

Back on your situation with your EVO, I would recommend posting on consumerist as that is more their territory. They have the phone numbers for executive customer support also, they WILL fix your issue ASAP. http://consumerist.com/2007/05/sprint-sets-up-consumerist-reader-executive-customer-service-hotline.html
[EVO 4G General] Last-Chance:
tbh, I feel no simpathy since you being "honest" has nothing to do with the situation. You didn't steal the phone, the phone was defective therefore it's not like you were doing anything wrong. You should of returned it and gotten a replacement. There's been hundreds if not thousands of people that have done the same with the screen lifting issue.

Also if you didn't know before, google is based on keywords, it doesn't take the phrase and search for it. About 5million of those results were for the word "evo", other million were for "screen", and so on. Out of those results, only about 20-30 were for the evo issue. I've been doing SEO for a long time, so when it comes to google I know what I'm talking about.

Also sprint doesn't care if you took it apart, or if it came apart by itself, because they will tell you in the end to return it because of the issue. They know people do it, and it's perfectly okay, since you're not "cheating" anyone. The 30 day thing is made for a reason, it's not made for you to screw them over. Also the insurance that you put on the phone is made for a reason.

Either you're not telling the whole story, or you were too ignorant to return the phone.
[EVO 4G General] VOODOOTRIP:
Btw, side note for you. Check out the app TiKL for push to talk on your EVO.

sent from VooDooPhone
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
As a Sprint retention supersvisor, let me ask you something which I would have asked you if you were on my call. What makes you think SPRINT is responsible for a phone your purchased from somebody on Ebay wether it be a Sprint customer or not? You are LUCKY they even allow you to use TEP on a phone that was not purchased from them. Now, here's what we can do, make a claim, pay the $100 and have it replaced or go back to the store and speak with the idiot that told you to call in.

Let me put it in perspective for you, when your car breaks you take it to the mechanic right? You don't just call Ford and they fix it over the phone or send you out a new truck to your home. There is NOTHING someone over the phone can do, the repair center has to do it all, granted most the time they send you something over the phone or break policy it's to shut the customer up and get rid of them. The store has to fix it, if they can't fix it, make a claim for you through the warranty or asurion. I really don't understand why this is so hard to understand. And please don't take this the wrong way it is not an attack on you personally, but it is definitely an attack on what should be common sense.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
That is what he said, with AT&T you're **** out of luck
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] BLAST3RR:
Just took a look at my Twitter timeline, and read some GREAT news! :D

http://twitter.com/CotullaCode/status/24865978192

He also tweeted slightly after that:

What is NAND?

NAND is the internal memory on your phone. This means that these ROMS can be ran off your internal phone's memory, without it having to be on the SD card.

UPDATE: It WILL be possible to revert back to WM by just flashing an WM ROM!

http://twitter.com/CotullaCode/status/24870232359

UPDATE: Video has been posted of the HD2 booting from MAGLDR into Android directly from NAND!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWsxUWwUo_E&hd=1

Some information about MAGLDR on the htc-linux wiki:

Source: http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Leo/Magldr
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] evenheroesfall:
Yay!!!

Great news br0! Thanks for passing it along!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] aifllow:
I waited for you for a long time, quickly come!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nawcho:
What does NAND mean?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] BLAST3RR:
Added a (very basic) explanation to the opening post.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nawcho:
Does this having anything to do with flashing android over our windows mobile so we can run it as our main os?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Azhturion:
Beta tester

Hi, I was wondering if I could be beta tester, or how i can join to your team??
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] BLAST3RR:
Probably not possible, Cotulla has his own team of testers/developers.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] BLAST3RR:
Just asked Cotulla via Twitter. Let's hope we get an response! If I get one, I will update the opening post.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] arifqur:
I am really looking forward to it but the sd card system also has its benefits.

To backup I simply copy the android folder to my PC and if something goes wrong, I delete that folder from the sd card and copy back the folder from my PC and I am good to go.

Also I can keep at least three Roms on my sd card and boot which ever I want to.

However, I think a NAND rom is a NAND Rom and has to be better than the sd card one.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pack21:
delete mesage by me!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] altec1000:
Can you dual boot? Or does it whipe WM6.5. And can you only

re-install by hard reset?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] shaolin85:
great news. i hope it will ease the consumption of the battery as long as sdcard consumes alot of power!

besides im going to hold the ground until people try this and see the ups and downs of android running off nand.

a trillion thanks to cotulla and his co-developers.:)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] shree.cse:
Is this true? I still can't believe my eyes!

Seniour memberz are tweeting, as this is really needed other than a fully functional Android on Sd card
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] june14583899:
so exciting
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pack21:
OMG!

I'm think im going cry....:(...of happyness.:p

Thanks Lord Cotulla...i'm your slave.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hewlett777:
blargh its going to be a pain trying to figure out how to backup my android settings and apps that I'm using on cyangeon mod. :confused:

still can't wait for this to be up and running :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] BLAST3RR:
@pack21

Added your picture to the opening post, just for the effect. :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zoth:
Great News

Can't wait............
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] radiance26:
What the MAGLDR ?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] the-virus:
well, this note ws there.

someone editedthe wiki page.

http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Leo/Magldr&action=history
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] whynot66:
They probably edited to stop people pestering for eta's incase they go over the time :-)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] the-virus:
or the removed the note becuase someone added the note without permission to post it
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dough29:
Hello !

Thank you so munch for the work in making Leo/HD2 the "geekest" phone ever !! :p

I would like to ask : when the NAND is released we will have to wait for build developers to create new "NAND compatible/included Build" right ?

Will flash process look like the WM6.5 method : Launching CustomRUU.exe and load the ruu_signed.nbh in the phone ?

Thanks ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] romskii:
but how it is with batterylife in a nand rom?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] juiceppc:
"Initial NAND development is officially finished and will be released to the public within 24 hours (24/09/10). Please be patient and please understand that this will be an alpha build so as always proceed with caution"

Sweetness.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pack21:
Can anyone give me the link to download the NAND?

Thanks by advance

:)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] inny2:
Links would be all over the place if there was one. ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] malias4:
ha ha thats true :D

gia sou kypros !!!!!!!!!!!!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] BELMOT:
Hi

Does it works with T-mobile HD2???????

and thanks for the good news
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] deadey3:
Update from Cotulla http://twitter.com/CotullaCode

"About development.I am working on usbflash now.Users need flash MAGLDR.nbh and then use DFTAndroidInstaller,because SPL can't flash yaffs2."

:)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] m4f1050:
This is awesome news! But I still want my WM in it's place, and keep Android on SD Card, it is soooo awesome I can choose my OS! :P

I mean, think about it, can an EVO decide to run WM and whalaa, just reboot phone or run an app like Haret and have WM in a matter of seconds? Nope... I am keeping my setup the way it is, works flawlessly! (Except for my build (mccm 1.5) is RMNET and not PPP, upload is slow and compass, but who the heck uses the compass on the phone anyways?! LOL) :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] infinitybiff:
lolwhut????????????
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ciervo5389:
Haha i saw that and lol'd
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] delarue00:
Thanks,I'm waiting for the ROM so long.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Itaintrite:
From Cotulla's twitter account

I want to inform anybody, information at htc-linux-wiki in "Leo/Magldr" is not official and contains a lot of bull****. don't trust it.

And:

About development.I am working on usbflash now.Users need flash MAGLDR.nbh and then use DFTAndroidInstaller,because SPL can't flash yaffs2.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Therk:
Can't wait for this :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] flyaway9000:
omg omg omg....my ass has gone numb

been waitin for ages :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ddgarcia05:
Would this fix the SOD and delayed wake up issue?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] lonelykatana:
SOD is fixed. I've not had it for a good month or two! But flashing to nand will not change that for you.

Delayed wake up, possibly. Im not 100% sure.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Don001:
Have you tried the Beta v2 of the desire hd rom, ive been using it now for a good week or so and honestly the wake up times are flawless, no delay, give it a go ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] al11588:
That's what she said.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] af974:
Poor WinMo.........:(..lol
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Don001:
WM65 is too outdated, I honestly cannot blame anyone for switching to Android permanently, guess the next best bet it to port windows mobile 7 when realised, have to stay loyal to windows :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] atoore:
Cottulla said this on twitter "About development.I am working on usbflash now.Users need flash MAGLDR.nbh and then use DFTAndroidInstaller,because SPL can't flash yaffs2." DAMN!!! I cant wait. Nand its really close,I can see it..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] m4f1050:
Well, it's all their fault, they are trying to get rid of their own child....LOL

No more updates, switching to Windows Phone 7, they will probably try to put it to the past like Windows 95/98, etc etc.. It's the end of it's lifetime.. I still have my Windows Mobile 6.5 and will probably never get rid of it.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jmhecker:
Realized what I initially said was already stated on Page 20, so removed it to have less redundancy.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] al11588:
I wish it was a 1 step solution instead of 3 steps.

check out and subscribe to www.YouTube.com/al11588. in addition, follow me on www.twitter.com/al11588
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] RReckless:
Too funny. :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] af974:
I really dont understand Microsoft and HTC attitude.

Microsoft didnt never change his making OS mentality,same crappy and buggy from years......wanna talk about WP 7? I dont see how it is so fantastic as they say,it will never be able to compete with Android ( if only the Desire HD went here before the HD2 i d never bought it)

HTC??? lol, anyone did seen the new Fantastic ,Super , megabulos HD3??? hahaha It is an HD2 with an internal 8 gb Sd Card and WP7 ,same spec as the Hd2!!! WTF !! Money,money and money...wouldnt be better to provide us with a WP7 upgrade?? would be better to provide us with an Android upgrade??

HTC: NO!! We dont care about users!! We want money for us !! haha

CRAP!

Rumors are saying that Microsoft are trying to bring NOKIA to WP7...lol....poor Microsoft :(

Can we start a donation thread for Microsoft and HTC?? I feel sorry for them .
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] appoggio:
Well actually having an HD2 is an advantage... we have Winmo 6.5, we're close to Android with NAND and we'll have WP7. This phone is the winning horse, you can bet on it.

Desire HD and HD3 are basically HD2... honestly I believed in more for the HD3... I will not switch to it unless it'll have 1.5GHz or a 4.5" display.

As usual our HD2 is the best in the city and, as I said long time ago, it will be for a lot of time.

GO COTULLA GO!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] m4f1050:
Agreed ... I already have an Imagio with stuck keys and they won't do anything about it, they said to contact Verizon! LOL

I am waiting for WP7 because I know the great xda devs will port it for the HD2 and then I will try it out! :) My phone will have (maybe) 3 (for sure 2) OSes!

And I would never donate to a company! They make enough money from us as it is!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] MvP77:
Dont blame HTC for not upgrading the HD2 to wp7. Thats all M$ and there new rules, like phones must have internal memory and only 3 hardware buttons (not counting volume) home, back and search.

Im sure HTC would do it, but M$ is having more say over hardware and skins now.

It was reported all over the net before this phone released in the us that Microsoft would not allow it to upgrade to 7. Im glad i bought mine for cheap from a friend who hated wm 6.5. Or i would have never got it. And i only bought it then because android development had taken off.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Mik0:
^^ HD2 *radio* on Left > HD2 on Right :P
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] sven greet:
what's about syncing with htc software...

in theorie i will be able to connect my hd2 to my pc and it will be recognized as an evo or desire hd or .... from which phone the port is coming from...

????
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] TheATHEiST:
And your problem is??
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] sven greet:
i got no problem ....

just my bad english :-D

was just a thought....

its just another advantage of nand android an at the same time i've asked if it will be possible
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bpoton:
Update on Twitter from cotulla: "Okay, USBMassStorage is working in MAGLDR - it means users can access SD card without OS boot! Pretty nice feature :-)".

Man.. I can't wait till their done! :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] af974:
Wrong post :p
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] juanzho11:
http://cotulla.pp.ru/leo/Android/DAF.PNG teaser????
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tomtomtopo:
looks like... there are also some new files (libgps)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] juanzho11:
those are from July.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Hauk00:
Now this looks promising...

http://cotulla.pp.ru/leo/Android/DAF.PNG
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] stfn74:
Frankly, this one excites me even more:

http://cotulla.pp.ru/leo/WP7S/IMAG0202.jpg
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] firebert:
can't wait... hopefully this will keep me from selling my HD2 and downgrading to the TMO/HTC G2
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] motorboy-johnny:
Oke,

And when Magldr is working and there is a possibility to flash android to our devices.....

Which ROM??? lol :p
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ancola66:
I dont know, you dont know, we dont know. Only Cotulla know it is :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] BLAST3RR:
There are enough developers hanging around in the IRC channel.. I don't think this will be much of a problem, just 'some' changes for the chef in their ROM..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Hauk00:
Cotulla will probably release it with a 2.2 rom but technically speaking almost every rom out there should be compatible, all that really needs to be changed is the kernel and probably some drivers included in the rom, then it needs to be packed however the USB installer takes it...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] squish099:
The latest kernels support nand flash that's why you have to change the startup.txt to include nand_flash=0. I'm guessing we are really close but that's just a guess..

sent from my desire hd2
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hazard99:
That png file brought a tear to my eyes

So beautiful like a home coming for war veterans!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Sichroteph:
Correction: cotulla and god. But maybe they are the same guy :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] BLAST3RR:
Big chance.. :D:D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dontw:
Check this video out everyone http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=AIaeJ3S7Yss.....can't wait! !
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] buzz killington:
That looks way faster than my build booting off sdcard. I timed it for kicks, in the video it got to the lock screen in 45seconds. Mine took 3 minutes! That's a full 4x the boot time.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] lude219:
I wonder where are those noobs who said using a class 10 SD card would get you the same speed :rolleyes:

Anywho, the progress alone is just amazing. Congrats to Cotulla and the dev team!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] FrAsErTaG:
I believe that video is booting from sdcard, and it is just showing that it is booting from sdcard without windows mobile. The video is obviously sped up watch how fast his fingers move.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hazard99:
Nope Its actually booting from nand I was looking at Irc and he was talking about posting videos of it booting. Also theres another video of him playing a 8 bit version of tetris. Cotulla often references that he is going to go play tetris.

I'm sure its legit though.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] buzz killington:
Yep, I saw a couple of other vids of hd2 booting from nand and they are about the same boot time, under 1 minute. They are getting real close, I can almost taste it :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] THUDUK:
Don't understand why the Youtube video has been speeded up...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] NessD:
Haha, you're right. The cursor's blinking anomalously fast. :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] motorboy-johnny:
Just for the info....

Did everyone read the comment added to the Youtube video?

Seems that everything is working! :D

1st vid:

http://www.youtube.com/user/rajkosto#p/u/1/-nuvHQ7cLYU

Shubcraft 1.5 (Sense based builds didn't fit on my 256MB /system part) running from NAND on a HTC HD2. This is the first time someone has done this on a HD2. Quadrant benchmark IO score is comparable to the Nexus One. The fbconsole part was much quicker on first boot, because yaffs was checkpointed and was able to mount instantly. Because current Android builds don't unmount their partitions properly on shutdown, yaffs had to rescan the whole partition on next mount (boot). I assume someone will fix this on a proper NAND build.

2nd vid

http://www.youtube.com/user/rajkosto#p/u/0/HWsxUWwUo_E

Shaves off 10 seconds or so off the boot time because it doesn't have to rescan the flash on mount.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] deadey3:
thanks for providing these wonderful info... just a day left now cant wait :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] RSTRich:
Had no reply to - :

.@CotullaCode has the wifi Mac addressing issue been sorted, just thinking if you get 2 users on the same network its gonna cause problems

7:44 AM Sep 24th via Twitter for Android in reply to CotullaCode
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] the-virus:
awesome news! seems like they are near to the first release of magldr and NANDroid.

i'm one of the early apodters of the HD2. bought it in the first month when it were released here in germany. and i boughted it in hope that one day android is fully ported to this device.

thanks guys for all your hard work :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mortenna:
Where can you see that it's only one day left?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] xmRipper:
I would prefer to see a boot animation than linux codes.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] motorboy-johnny:
Upload date of the video. Around 13 hours ago on this moment.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] deadey3:
well 29th is almost over..and tomorrow is the 30th.. so its just one day left for September lol :P
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] steven1234:
how much do you think they're going to charge for magldr?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] sylau90:
LOL...they will release it for free...just donate to them if you want to...or show them the appreciation. In fact,you no need pay anything for it...please mind your words next time...they are doing all this because of their own interest not for profit...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] motorboy-johnny:
Wait a second!

29th is just beginning here in Europe :D

11:30 am for us right now :rolleyes: