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[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
Well, first of all, yes, it's more difficult for MS to negotiate terms with labels than with a small service labels can always kill/swallow. They still dream to control the distribution one day, and they don't like big brands standing between them and your money.

Secondly, if they are lazy and don't want to move their assess it's not a policy, it's inefficiency and ineffectiveness. Also bad, but a different beast.

Thirdly, I don't know what ChannelClassics is, but if they are selling classical music it's much easier.
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
Ok, let's call it lazyness for now. It's still a "policy" :-)

If Zune music purchases aren't working on the device, why the **** do I need this

"hub" or or it's name for, and this huge noise about it? That Zune is so magnificent?

So it's basically the same as WMP on WM 6.x but follwed with buzz around it. Pathetic

It pisses me off.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
Well, first and foremost, it's a media player, so you can use it as such. It'll show you the library, recently played stuff, newly added stuff etc. No particular usefullness in that, just a player. And quite a decent one at that.

Secondly, the hub will show podcast subscriptions if you use those. I do.

Thirdly, it's a hub because it can be extended by third party applications - i.e. streaming players, other media players, YouTube stuff, don't know what will be there exactly.

Ability to purchase music and videos and the subscription service will be missing in most countries, maybe even for years to come, unless the whole scene changes (which may well happen, it should happen somehow, these things just take time, it's just difficult to judge from outside as everything is taking place behind closed doors).

But then again, I personally don't worry much about it. If out of fear and doubt content providers refuse to sell content to me legally (which is what's happening right now), well, I know where to get it. WP7, just like the iPhone, doesn't prevent you from using, let's say, alternative sources in any way. If they finally come to senses and start selling music to me legally, I'll start buying it from them.

And overall, why did you decide to get upset about the Zune service when WP7 as a whole just isn't available to you in the first place?
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
Maybe true, I should wait for WP7 release in Poland.
[Windows Phone 7 General] RustyGrom:
(after a quick google) Channel Classics is a record label that sells classicl music that is not encumbered with any copyrights. Copyright restrictions are the sole reason why this is a problem. You can't compare a label selling classical music to a music distributor/retailer selling modern music.
[EVO 4G General] fchipm:
http://reviews.cnet.com/2722-6452_7-774.html?tag=rb_content;carouselMain

Nothing groundbreaking, but a fun vid. They give Evo a slight edge.
[EVO 4G General] Success100:
nice video..good stuff...
[EVO 4G General] donatom3:
The fact that HTC is about to release an update for the EVO after their froyo update, and Samsung hasn't even gotten Froyo yet is enough for me to put the EVO way in the lead.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
This and the fact that flagship HTC phones always get 10x the community support.

The insides (hardware/specs) of the Epic 4G are way better but outside (software/build) is just blah.
[EVO 4G General] fchipm:
^ Hero vs. Moment all over again. I'll never make the mistake of choosing Samsung over HTC again.
[EVO 4G General] Blitzpwnage:
To defend the epic it hasn't been out to long. How long did it take HTC to get out froyo for the evo...what 2 plus months. The community for the Epic too is far ahead of what the community was a the same time for the Hero. So if it is that important to you that you have a larger e-penis then I fully understand your bias and random facts...
[EVO 4G General] ms79723:
Samsung shouldve just put Froyo on the Epic to begin with...
[EVO 4G General] donatom3:
Nope nothing to do with e-penis. Has to do with the fact that I know HTC has better support for their phones than Samsung.

My friend has the epic, I think it has one of the best hardware keyboards out there the Super AMOLED screen is awesome, and the processor is great. With all that being said, I have no faith in Samsung taking care of the phone as much as HTC does.

And if you want to go by your line of thinking the Samsung Galaxy S line has been out longer than the HTC EVO and not ONE of them has Froyo on them officially yet.

HTC has put froyo on quite a few different models so far, and Samsung can't do it on their one line of phones that's supposed to be their top of the line phone which has already shipped 1 million units in the US alone.
[EVO 4G General] Last-Chance:
Yes, but the htc was initially released with android 1.0, and froyo wasn't released for another month. But epic was released 2 months AFTER froyo was released, and they have plenty of time to recode it for froyo and then release it. So in total it's been 3 months since froyo was released and epic doesn't have it atm.
[EVO 4G General] BigRick10:
And Sprint/HTC were the first to rollout Froyo. (Google pushed it for the Nexus One).
[EVO 4G General] phatmanxxl:
Before I click the link, knowing cnet I bet they mentioned iPhone several times lol.
[EVO 4G General] cosine83:
To debunk you, the Galaxy S line of phones has been out across multiple carriers and countries for as long as the Evo has been out. There are only two minor differences between other Galaxy S phones and the Epic - hardware keyboard and WiMax. They could have pushed out a Froyo update by now but Samsung is just full of fail.
[EVO 4G General] Blitzpwnage:
I regret even trying to post in this thread. I forgot it was on the Evo part of this forum and if one bad thing is even voiced or implied about any phone here then your just a total uneducated imbecile...apologies for trying to add some right to your guys left. ;)

Ill go somewhere else. :D
[EVO 4G General] donatom3:
I was really only upset about the part that you were implying that my opinion had to do with me worrying about the size of my e-penis.

Hardware wise the Galaxy S is undeniably a better phone, but from my experience (and yes I've owned Samsung phones too), Samsung is horrible with software. Back in the old days software wasn't a huge part of cell phones, but today, no matter how good the hardware, bad software will make a phone bad. I'm not implying the Galaxy S software is bad, I actually kinda like touchwiz, but I'm worried about how long Samsung will have people like my friend stuck on 2.1.

I made no opinion on the Galaxy S hacking community since I have no experience on what they're doing.
[EVO 4G General] phatmanxxl:
To end this debate, I have the largest e-penis.

8=================D

Go ahead and lock the thread now
[EVO 4G General] Blitzpwnage:
To be honest I am worrried about samsungs support too. I really want them o support it. They just released an update. And another one is coming soon for the gps so they are doing something. froyo is just. Little off. I don't even want to talk aboujt gingerbread. Apologies for saying you were trying to enlarge your epenis...immature on my part!
[EVO 4G General] Last-Chance:
no one here is saying anything about the phone itself. Everyone knows the hardware is at the top of the pyramid. The only reason the evo vs epic threads happen is because of the software portion. We know that evo is behind in hardware, but the software/updates make up for that. And to a normal user, the software part is what matters. The main argument between the evo vs epic thread is about the horrible support samsung has done in the past. No one knows if samsung will turn it around for epic, but it's looking like that so far. (this is coming from seeing an article about a new samsung galaxy S phone coming out, and it looks like the epic will be left behind just like all the other galaxy S line was left with gps/capacitative buttons/etc..

Personally thats why I didn't buy the phone. I'm still within my 30 day limit and can get it in a snap, but I just dont trust samsung, just like the thousands, if not millions of other people, that have gotten screwed by their older phones (instinct mainly).

but then again, even if samsung were to release the froyo update, most wouldn't switch because of the development support here. If froyo is released, and if htc doesn't release gingerbread to us before that, then I will admit that the epic is a better phone from top to bottom (minus the screen, 4.3 beats the **** out of anything), but I just don't see that happening.
[EVO 4G General] churro7:
both are great phones but it comes down to this

physical keyboard
[EVO 4G General] ray90813:
From my own experience, the epic was an epic fail. I had one the day they were released and my touch buttons didn't respond unless I put a considerable amount of force on em. My wife got one the same day and her epic didn't have that problem, so I thought I can live with it, but alas, it got to the point where it wouldn't respond at all at times. But, that wasn't the deal breaker. The slide mechanism started coming loose and I could feel the screen flopping as I typed which was unbearable to I returned it for another.

The Second Epic I had seemed okay, or so I thought. I brought it home charged it, ran through the setup and yada yada and everything was kosher. Until I tried to charge it while at work. I almost ran it dead and plugged it in, an hour later I went to check on it and it had the battery symbol with a thermometer flashing. Tried to pick it up and it was burning hot. Unplugged, let it cool, turned it on and it was so laggy I couldn't even get the dialer to come up. So I returned that one too, lucky for me they just had a new shipment of Evos come in so I snatched one up while I could.

Two epics to one evo, my money's on the Evo.
[EVO 4G General] Blitzpwnage:
Im jumping onto the Evo!!!! I am returning my Epic tmmrw and then ordering an Evo, I just need a PHONE and not a supercomputer in my pocket, not saying the Evo isnt great and fast, I just dont need what the Epic has to offer at this time, community is more important than the Screen hahaha

@ray

Two epics to one evo, my money's on the Evo.

______________

Im on my second Epic, and switching to Evo too.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mark0266:
Hey everyone.

Is there anything that needs to be done on the phone side to get the new gmail app from the market. I am running SR 3.0 RC3. The app will download but when it tries to install it says Install Unsuccessful.

Any Ideas,

Mark
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] motempo:
try removing your current gmail apk from your system/app folder, then install.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] athenslb57:
Download titanium backup, uninstall your existing gmail app, reboot your device then download the new gmail from the market.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] awperk:
If you are running the sense version, there is a SR 3.2 RC3 update in rom manager that you can flash over your current install and updates the gmail. This is also detailed in the skyraider thread. I'd search the skyraider threads before starting new ones because if you have a question, it's likely somebody has already asked it.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JoeyBert:
the file in ROM manager says 'corrupt zip file'

I also tried uninstalling from Titanium and installing from the market, neither of them worked.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jland22:
For anyone who is using the new gmail app is it any good? worth going through the minor trouble? Thanks
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jonathan062:
gmail

yes its worth it. to me the pictures load instantly, that alone is worthwhile. it annoyed me to have to wait and sometimes double tapp the pic. just do what athenslb57 said 3 posts up its way quicker and so easy a kid could do it.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zimphishmonger:
Hey,

Wanted to see if anyone else ran into thos issue. For some reason, sometimes I run a fix permissions (more out of habit, after I restore from nandroid) and sometimes it works fine, but other times after the fix permissions, it triesto boot, gets to the Galaxy S boot animation, and then goes to a black screen (buttons still light up if touched) indefinitely (Its in a boot loop, if u pull up the logcat).

Has anyone experienced this, and if so have you figured out why. I thought fix permissions corrected permissions issues, so Im a lil confused as to why it is caused some of my backups\installs to bootloop\get stuck on the "black screen of death".

A restore back to a known working nandroid fixes it, but this whole issue has made me lose faith in fix permissions. For a utility that is supposed to help prevent FCs and bootloops, It is quite strange that it would have the opposite effect.

Any advice, solutions, or tips would be appreciated. Thanks!
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kingskidd268:
I did fix permission on my Vibrant and never had a problem I know if you have alot for force close app then it good to run it. No sod or boot lop when f/p.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jdkackley:
No problems here ZIM. Running Franken Twiz3 with voodoo. Stupid question but have you tried to delete it and do a re-install?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zaduma:
What did you nandroid to and what were you running?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sombionix:
Try this. I have it posted in my rom thread. Its worked for me and others in my thread have reported its worked for them as well.

1. Download Eugenes 'Froyo that does not brick' file.

2. Extract the files.

3. Open Odin, plug in your phone, then put it into download mode.

4. load the PIT file in appropriate area.

5. load the .tar file in the PDA area.

6. DO NOT check 're-partition'.

7. Click start, let it finish. Your phone will load and reboot into stock recovery. It will error out again. DONT panic! This is what's supposed to happen.

8. Now, pull your battery.

9. Download the 'True stock 2.1 firmware for the vibrant'.

10. Extract the files.

11. Once again, open Odin, plug in your phone, put into download mode.

12. Load the PIT file into the appropriate area and the .tar in the PDA area.

13. THIS TIME you want to check the 're-partition' box.

14. Now click start, let it finish, and this time your phone will load up just fine!
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sombionix:
Also, I'm going to move your thread to the Q&A section.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drewlamo1:
well im running on droid incredible and i just had this happen to me.

unfortunately for me though all my clockworkmod backups all now bootloop

not sure wth is going on as im googling the situation ( this was top of the search list lol ). but atm im looking at totally screwd situation.

i just deleted the permission log file from my sdcard and im now loading up a good working nandroid ( least it was supposed to be )

hopefully i can find a fix for this but it definitly sucks
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] portedbikes:
Where do I get all this files you mention here, I have a galaxy S vibrant getting black screen after boot animation and i have tried a lot of stuff to bring it back to life but I can't. I will like to try this possibility as well, but I do not know where I can download the files you mention here and make sure they are the ones you have tested and not some random file called the same. Also does it matter what odin version to use? I have like 2 or 3 versions and i have tried them all in each possible solution I have found. Thank you for your time.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] samsgun357:
Look in the stickied threads in general, q&a and development sections.

No tickee, no laundry!
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] A_Flying_Fox:
Someone in the epic 4g forums said something about ##775# and using a verizon prl....what are the proper codes? It asked me for a password too...i need a step by step breakdown for this im such a n00b :(
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] travlincablguy:
If you have root access you can download an app that will display your msl key (just search "msl"). If not just call customer service *2, tell them that you need to reprogram your phone(that signal is wierd). You don't need to follow their instructions, just write down the numbers they tell you to push and say you did. The six digit number they give you will be your msl.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TpyoKnig:
Pretty much the same procedure...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=794506

PagePlus is a MVNO of Verizon, that uses Verizon towers, infact, the PRL that I've uploaded to my server, and that I link to in that thread is a Verizon PRL :)

Has step by step instructions, but I wish you good luck in getting Verizon themselves to Activate your Non-Verizon Device :)
[Droid 2 General] Hashbaz:
I know this is probably a newb question and since the method isn't posted here it's probably a no answer, but google only turned up vague references, no clear yes or no answers.
[Droid 2 General] th3drow:
isn't any one click way right now for the droid 2 as far as i know.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=782556

going to have a to go a little longer route, not too bad though. Back when i first rooted my droid incredible i had, it took me over 3 hours of restarting the phone and pulling the sd card hoping i would get lucky with the luck root method you had to use lol.
[Droid 2 General] Hashbaz:
I don't mind doing it the long way just don't have internet at home right now outside of using easy tether on ubuntu. Going to take it to my friends house tomorrow and do all the work there.
[Droid 2 General] darkonion:
Perfect! Go get the linux one-step. The zip is 1.1 mb. Android-sdk is 20mb. Update for the 2.2 platform is maybe a handful. And you are ready to go!
[Droid 2 General] demoneyes905:
I am not exactly an expert on this but from all the Android phones I have had and rooted, the HTC and Motorola phones are completely different in terms of kernels and implementation. Most of these universal root applications are made for HTC based phones. Make sure your Droid 2 is one of the supported phones. Just my $.02. :)

Sent from my Nexus One running r24 modaco Rom
[Droid 2 General] jerseyh22accord:
Thanks for making your first post in a thread thats over 3 months old

And there is a one step root method for the Droid2 now its call Z4root
[Nexus One General] xyellx:
hmm i think this is the case where you need your IMEI & S/N number and go to the police ...
[Nexus One General] Rusty!:
Credit card issuer...
[Nexus One General] MaybachMan:
Damn, that is horrible service. I'd take them to court if I were you, sounds like you've gathered more than enough evidence to do so.
[Nexus One General] rickytenzer:
****ers. Tell them that you refuse to hang up without an answer. Tell them that the next phone call is to the CC company and the police.

Can't wait to hear how this unfolds...
[Nexus One General] mixxy:
im on the phone with them as we speak. and im speaking to another supervisor.

she tells me that we have no info, and promises me again that someone will call me back as soon as possible.

i advise her that no one has called me back until now, why should i believe you now? she says because she is a different person *BULL*****

so now ive asked to speak to a call center manager and am now on hold waiting to speak to them.

just to advise you guys that in the past, ive also been put on hold to speak to management but everytime they come back after 10-15 minutes and say "oh im sorry, but he/she isnt available, and will call you back" but i dont get anything.

this time shes actually tranferring me, lets see what happens.

i will keep you posted.
[Nexus One General] xyellx:
With the IMEI they know exactly what happend with your phone ..
[Nexus One General] MaybachMan:
I just Googled this and it seems like a common problem with the Nexus One customer support. Look here, someone else had a very similar thing happen and one of the replies said "Another one of these. Seems a huge number of phones are going missing." :eek:
[Nexus One General] Lamar720:
Post it on one of there tweeter pages
[Nexus One General] mixxy:
ok, so i just got off the phone with them.

the supervisor did NOT transfer me to management, but to a higher supervisor; one i had spoken to before (on Friday, the 17th of Sept). She told me upper management would have called me back on Monday, but of course they didnt, and then when i called back on monday another supervisor told me upper management would call me back.

okay, on to today. so i spoke to daniella simpson a higher level supervisor who said that NO ONE from upper management was available to speak to me and that no updates were received. After complaining for about one hour and going over with her about details after details, she basically told me she'd call me back today.

when i told her ill gladly wait on hold all day, she said she cant do that because she is the only supervisor on duty.

will keep u guys posted.

if you can, please show your support by joining the facebook group or relaying the story to anywhere you can. I'm hoping to get media attention to finally get this handled because nothing else is working.

and i know i can file a dispute with my cc company, but that would take even longer.
[Nexus One General] deprecate:
no bueno :( You will reach a point where you have to assess if the time you are spending is worth not just buying a new phone and washing your hands of the entire situation. I know it's the principal and such but everyone's time is worth a certain amount to them...I hope you find recourse before your reach the end of your limit dealing with this.

Sounds like you are going the distance though...best of luck!!
[Nexus One General] ohgood:
sorry you got shuffled.

the energy spent on this endeavor would be much better tossed at anything else. do a charge back on your cc and move on.

(shrug)
[Nexus One General] Old MuckenMire:
I bricked one of my Nexus Ones after one click rooting. I tried to flash a theme as a ROM...oops. :) Since I have two Nexus Ones I just decided to send it in to HTC and see what happens rather than get frustrated fixing it myself. I shipped it off and it was back in my hand in six days working great.

Sorry you are having such a difficult time...makes me feel lucky. I have to say I was very happy with HTC service tho. They even emailed me an overnight prepaid shipping label and my Nexus One was shipped off an hour after I called them.
[Nexus One General] mixxy:
i already purchased a samsung galaxy s, and yes ur right it is the principle

had i been working fulltime right now i would not have put this much time into this, but i guess graduating from uni and applying to jobs for a few weeks has its benefits during the down time.

i said the same thing to the high level supervisor, and said had i had a full time job, what would the outcome of this case be?

mind u i paid 676 dollars for this device shipped to my door, and being a student, that kind of money is not easy to come by
[Nexus One General] rickytenzer:
If it were me, I would keep calling back. Hang up, and call right back. Just keep pissing them off the same way they're pissing you off.
[Nexus One General] mixxy:
haha well i cant sink to that level because it gets me nowhere, and it'll be more time consuming on my part than theirs who just have to answer the calls.

im going to try to issue a charge back with my credit card company soon. lets c. i told them id wait until friday
[Nexus One General] mrbkkt1:
I'm still waiting for my replacement. I did my cc "authorization" sat morning.... no email sent for shipping (did get a return label email though). I finally called today, and the lady said she would "email" the warehouse for shipping.... lol.
[Nexus One General] vvaffles:
why not check up on the tracking number to see where your phone is, if the phone is signed and recieved its not your problem what so ever, call up htc, give them the tracking number and tell them to do something about it.

my experience with htc is very good, im quite surprised that they pull this kinda of bs on you.

gl with that