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[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] thunderteaser:
I understand the point, but you can always install whatever launcher on a Desire HD rom too, you'll just have Sense as the default launcher instead of TouchWiz. I personally don't want it all and I don't want it now, as I understand we need to wait for the SGS 2.2 source and for developers to look deeper into both phones. It's not impossibile, it's just a matter of time, you'll see. And as I said before, having a Desire HD rom on our SGS means having more than just an UI, but I guess a video from youtube explains it much better!

I'm putting high expectations from Dexter_nlb and every other developer and user who's willing to take on such a respectable mission. :)

Oh, yes, CM is another *great* ROM and a bounty thread for international SGS I9000 support has already started! :) I'm waiting for both roms, and I'll help as much as I can!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] johcos:
We're not talking here only about HTC sense my friend but the whole ROM.

Yes you can find most of the programs in the market but you won't get the interface that sense has, calling screen, contacts app and in fact everything that is way better than samsung's counterparts.

Launcher Pro only tries to mimic sense and only in graphics.

I've tested the Desire HD ROM in my HD2 and the first thing I thought (along with the lag, GPS and camera that are crappy), was that yes I did bought the wrong phone but the time that I bought it I didn't had any other choices.

It's not only sense but the whole interface that is not a match to samsung's interface and all you people that are saying this, probably you've never tried it.

When you buy a phone and you try to change everything so that they look nicer and do the job they should do in the first place, then this phone has failed in my opinion.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] exadeci:
I would prefere to have the fast boot. Please someone send a Worldwide SGS to Cyanogen !!!

http://www.intomobile.com/2010/09/27/htc-fast-boot-cyanogenmod-video/
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] NightSky256:
I think that there will be more custom roms only when Samsung will release a kernel that support all the 512 Mb of ram that we paid for, and Froyo 2.2 as well...

I've bought an SGS only becouse of the hudge ammount of ram in comparsion with other Android Phones, and becouse of samsung's promise to release froyo on it, and rumors about Gingerbread hardware capabilities...
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
I like when my work is appreciated, and those that see its not that simple to port senseui to non-htc phones at all..

maybe i was lucky with milestone, but then again, i dont think so...

the android os is built as one platform , vendors can chose to customize, and htc did it with BT, but the rest is not that hard to get running..

but a milestone with htc senseui was tough, but it was done, even the early beta i made in june was quite ok on 2.1..

I think if i can get the froyo kernel init.rc changes in place and start testing, it will not take much to get basics in place..

but its far from having native hardware support, so im sure it will be incompatible with BT and fm radio as well, maybe even tv-out, so its a sacrifice to begin with, but i hope, as the community is better on sgs, that maybe we get the modules coded or interfaces in place by good developers.

Getting from basics to full native support, is like putting a team together doing it all for free fulltime, when HTC actually has a development team on it for months spending many,many manhours on it, where we just do it in our free time.

Its a very long way to go..
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] OrionTC:
super happy to see more development on the SGS, will donate when some progress has been made.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Case_:
I did play with porting Sense to SGS a while back, had some small progress but then hit the wall and put it on a back burner due to (mostly) work/time issues. Or, to be precise, work/time issues and lack of personal motivation to overcome them, cause I don't really miss Sense on my SGS (and yes, I know about the bounty).
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
? bounty? is there one? (becides dynamic donations)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
i took a look at the drivers yesterday, and i noticed broadcom chipset is used for sgs as well, which might be compatible with htc way of working?

did anyone check up on this?

and yes, samsung might used different kernel names, but thats an easy part to fix if the chipset is the same?

anways ill dig into this hopefully this weekend.

if its good news, we might have BT problems solved easily :-) (but its a weak thought by now)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Trinitronik:
Yeah man! I'm really interested in it! I can even donate 15 dollars on it :)) I Know its not much.. but whatever..

Dexter_nlb: I belive that you can made It! Nice news bro!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] thunderteaser:
Just for your information (and nothing else) there's a Desire HD rom ported on Nexus One! Yes, other than Sense, the Nexus One has even got the 3-seconds-long boot! ;)

eViL's NXSense HD

Here's a video of this rom in action shot by Chididdy123! EDIT: It's the old Desire port, sorry!

I'll patiently wait for any updates on the SGS port!

P.S.: I voted Yes!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
note the video is actually the old rom, it has the old widget list gui , so maybe the port was a very early edition or simply not DesireHD?

my milestone port, is very much different and themes are 3D now and worldclock is better animated when clock changes.

But, its seems faster on N1, but im only on 550mhz on milestone..

im sure a SGS edition will perform much better, as i see 155MB+ memory, where my milestone shows only 30MB+ free..
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] thunderteaser:
Oh, yes... Now that you make me notice I erroneously took this video from the thread of the old rom... forget it.

Yes, SGS has great hardware components, I'm sure it will permorm better! :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
i don't think you get the point.

there are 2 goals here.

- port the htc senseui

- give sgs users the option to chose a "new" alternate interface on a model HTC did not design.

so its not about having the DesireHD in that sense :-) its more about having "the choice" to chose differently without paying new hardware as also stated. (of course this comes with a price, if adaption is impossible to do perfectly)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] :
Hey dexter im working on this my self, but its the first time i try something like this, i've work on the libs/xbin/bin, using pauls modaco bravo desire rom, i already extracted the ramdisk from a stock zimage and change the bootclasspath in the init.rc, i just need to compile it and make the update-script, and try booting, you got alot more expirience in this then i do so i think il just drop my project, since you already have an sgs your self =]
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] OrionTC:
exactly, choice = everything! dont be put off by people saying crazy things like they are doing, ive seen the things people say to Wes who is porting the CM6!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
Little update,

i did my first initial testing yesterday evening, and so far no good outcome.

somehow the drivers of sgs seems very far from the htc froyo 2.2 release, and less compatible, which i don't understand completely.. and the fact that JIT is enabled on JPK release, but makes no sense on a froyo 2.2 where its default activated? so maybe froyo JPK 2.2 is not actually a real 2.2 release but a 2.1 with davlik update features, and maybe why we see so little improvements.

anyways going for new approaches, and wll report back if i get better results.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] jaju123:
Nice I am glad to see progress is being made. Best of luck :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] dakine:
awesome thanks for the update
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] itsjusttim:
Sorry to just jump into this but if you guys can make this compatible with the samsung vibrant I would donate $50 toward it.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] :
IT 'should" work, only problem is he would have to compile a kernel for each device with the proper ramdisk changes =]
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] itsjusttim:
Sweet thanks, like I said.. I'd it can be done, fully working in my vibrant, il gladly throw $50 for it.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] :
If you want it fully working get ether a htc desire or any other htc device which has 2.1/2.2 sense ported/native in to it, "fully working" is very very hard when porting android htc sense, hell even on WM i never had it working 100% lots of features were missing.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Daneshm90:
Im confused, why are you guys trying to port a 2.2 sense rom to our phones ? Wudnt a 2.1 sense rom be easier considering we have the kernel source for eclair for our phones ?

Just wondering lol.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Diaboliczny:
Because HTC Desire HD never been on 2.1? He run only on 2.2
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Daneshm90:
I meant htc desire. :cool:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] itsjusttim:
By fully working I mean...

Wifi, Bluetooth, gps, and all htc widgets.

You know.. So it can be a daily driver.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] andrewluecke:
The real question is, is it legal to do so? Remember, not all of HTC's components are GPL, and I suspect if you try to do this, its possible you'll find a cease and desist in your inbox quite quickly...

Getting it working is only one thing, but not getting sued is a total other.. Some widgets which clone the HTC ones have been getting legal letters from HTC (even though they are free). They will likely entirely skitz out when they find out you jacked their entire codebase..

And even after doing so, maintenance will likely be a nightmare.. So possible to create, but huge likelihood of being forced out of existence overnight...
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] :
Htc sense has been ported 100's of times to other non htc device or even non native sense htc device, without any legal confrontations what so ever, like i said there are countless ports of android htc sense to various devices, htc doesn't care plain and simple.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] andrewluecke:
Untrue:

http://www.intomobile.com/2010/06/18/htc-issues-cease-desist-to-hackers-for-cooked-roms/ for starters

http://androidcommunity.com/fancy-widget-gets-cd-from-htc-20100622/

Beautiful Widgets also got one originally

And these are only 3 examples I could find, but m any more probably exist. They might overlook sense ports to phones such as the Nexus One because they are rebranded HTC phones (and so generate profit for HTC), but if you illegally copy HTC sense and dump it on a major competitor's hardware like Samsung, you are asking for trouble, especially if it hits major news outlets.

So it CANNOT be argued that HTC won't react. There is evidence that they do in fact care. So, it's up to porters to decide if they are willing to take the risk, but my thoughts are that HTC would have to be crazy NOT to react to a perfect port on their main competitors device..
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] jam3sjam3s:
How did they react on porting Sense to MILESTONE?

I hear that Desire HD ROM is already ported to Droid.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
Desire HD was ported to Milestone first of all ports made of this image.(lacks hw memory, speed and BT support)

my mod's have been out on maybe a "not-so-competitive"? motorola phone for some months(2.1 mods as well), so i dont see any problems or least not heard anyone trying to beg me to close/stop my mods..
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] itsjusttim:
What's going on with this now? Anyone working on it our should I just stop hoping?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] android53:
We need cyanogen first...
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] compuse:
"Fancy widget" is enough, no special need to port a htc ui at this point =/
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] redshark313:
I haven't even got my SGS yet from Orange but I would be willing to donate towards this development :-)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Trinitronik:
We won't port only HTC Ui, we want to por the whole rom! There is big difference!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] dakine:
Fancy widget? cyanogen?

Guys quit *****ing that we want this port! Its nice to have choice and if you don't like the idea then stay out of the thread.

The desire HD rom is not the same as a silly clock widget.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] saphirrot:
gime HD rom !^^
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] g00ndu:
er, just curious, why not sell the phone and get the htc desire hd instead, if the htc ui is so superior to the stock touchwiz? this is something that i don't quite understand.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] plemen:
I'm not sure why everybody who wouldn't like

more choice

in ROM's is coming in here and posting - leave this post for people actually willing to work on this. Personally I like the the Samsung ROM's with Launcher Pro but I would give the HTC ROM a try - Sense is quiet nice.

Good luck!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Trinitronik:
Maan I want this rom SO MUCH! And even maybe will donate 50-100$ for the port!

But I Understand that we can do nothing, until offical froyo comes...

Maybe we need to create a pre-donate list? We'll write who and how much will donate? Hm?

[OFFTOP]Really I'm thinking about to change my phone to Desire HD... 'cos i think that their comminunity is larger and there are more developers working on some projects... If I'm not right, please correct me.[/OFFTOP]
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Fraction:
Hummingbird its said to be a faster CPU

and Super Active Matrix Organic Light Emitting Diode screen is superior!

Else then that I don't really know.. :/

A OK answer?

-Fraction
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] heman1310:
Better GPU? :p
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Fraction:
Sorry probably that too xD

-Fraction
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Daneshm90:
Guys, there's no denying, spec wise galaxy s kills most phone's out there.

But "rom" wise it doesnt.

This thread is about changing that and creating more options for us galaxy users.

So take your "go get a htc desire" somewhere else :\
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
+1

:) totally agree
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
I suggest you get a Sony PSP then..

i personally do not see my phone as a games phone, so i could care less about GPU when 3D is not on my active screen most of the time..
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] johcos:
+1 Totaly agree
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] :
I also agree, if you want to stick with ****ty touchwiz thats your problem, but dont come trolling this htc sense porting thread, if you dont like htc sense then do not post here at all, plain and simple.

rafyvitto
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] g00ndu:
Guess i have riled a few feathers. :D and if you can express your opinion on the so called "****ty" touchwiz, so can I. And of course, I have never labelled any ui as ****ty, and that goes to show who the troll is.

Of course, I agree about the choices. And I sincerely hope someone can make that breakthrough for the SGS, I really do.

Sorry to the OP for digressing.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] itsjusttim:
Like I have said before, il throw $50 for this on my vibrant.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Trinitronik:
2Daneshm90: +1

So? Any news 'bout port?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Fraction:
The

180

who are willing to donate, send me a PM and tell me how much and for with device.

Then I can edit the first post and give a indication on how big the bounty are starting to get.

-Fraction
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] criskelo:
I with $ 20 here

Very Interesting

Greetings to all the guys

:D:eek::o

ha I9000T/M
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Fraction:
Motivation

It motivates the devs? And tell the devs that people want a DHD ROM on their SGS. That helps the devs understand what the users want.

But at this point probably not helping to getting it done any faster since we are waiting on the source to 2.2 Froyo.

-Fraction
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] :
I believe devs will start to port once Android releases 2.2 Froyo for the SGS.

That's what my mate said, "Yeh they will most likely do that".
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] itsjusttim:
I don't know if any of you know about this thread. The bounty here is over $430 as it has not been updated in a while.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=771124

Just goes to show there are more people than you would think that would like to have sense ui on there version of the sgs.

Lets get this 2.2 desire hd sense on our phones! =)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] andrewluecke:
By the way, I'd donate $AUD20 towards a FULLY functional port, where all components are working (it's no good to me if parts such as SMS'ing, or GPS are broken). It can be buggy, but all hardware needs to work, and it needs to be stable enough for everyday use. So my donation depends on the end result, and the details of implementation.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] sirphunkee:
I have brought this up to the senior mods and admins here to get an official position in this case. As soon as a decision is made I will post it.

In the meantime, I'm going to go ahead and lock this thread, as there's no point in any more back-and-forth about this until we hear that.

To be clear about everything, the issue at hand is simply this: porting ROM's with sense to non-HTC devices does indeed carry a certain amount of risk regarding legal action from the company. There is precendence for concern with this (they've issued Cease and Desist letters in the past), and therefore it's in XDA's best interest to be cautious.

Since each individual developer does indeed have the ability to do whatever they choose in regards to releasing such a port, XDA does not intend or desire to regulate them directly. However, to avoid the possibility of unwanted legal hassles, we will definitely establish whatever rules around this activity on the site we feel are necessary and prudent.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] sirphunkee:
UPDATE: It has been decided that XDA is going to let this project continue here at the site, and will do so until/unless HTC issues a C&D letter about it (which is the first step the law would require them to take before any other legal action could happen).

However, please do note that this does not provide any type of immunity to any developer who chooses to work on this project, as well as any member who chooses to run such a ported rom if/when it is released.

I'm re-opening this thread now, but I also will insist that any further disucssion on the topic happens withOUT flaming or any other types of personal attacks or disparaging comments towards other members...period. :cool:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] :
Im working on the ramdisk changes atm, xbin/bin/lib should be good to go, after im done with the ramdisk changes init.rc/lpm.rc etc, il build the kernel with my ramdisk changes,then make the update-script and try booting my rom, im using pauls desire nexus one port rom as base.

btw: My port will only work on the captivate if it ever boots or has any kind of function...
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Trinitronik:
I'm in: 20$ for working (Not fully 'cos i'm understand that it is quite unreal, I don't use Blutooth, Fm radio, if these options wouldn't exist in that port, I wouldn't been offended xD)

rafyvitto

Will Cativate port work on I9000 (galaxy S) ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] :
Yes it will but your going to have the same issues as i have when flashing a i9000 2.1 rom without replacing the kernel, reversed keys/broken recovery/broken accelerometer etc etc.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Guiper:
Count with also 20€ from my side for Sense or even plain Vanilla. I'm little bit tired of waiting for CyanogenMod, if 20€ from my side can speed up little bit things why not.

Good work for the developers and count with my help for testing.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] itsjusttim:
Thanks for reopening the thread! I am also glad to hear there has been some progress also.

I still would love to get this working on my vibrant and still will put up my 50$ for it.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Jonas.M:
if everything works except bluetooth im in for 20 $ on galaxy s :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] andrewluecke:
By the way, props to the mods who cleaned up this thread, and sorting it out now..
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] dakine:
30$ for a fully working rom on the i9000.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] adamw156:
£40 here for galaxy s i9000
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Trinitronik:
Excuse me, but I didn't say that I will pay for fully working!

Please read my post again and correct it in 1st post.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
Another update (and last!)

Ive done some hours on this topic again, trying out "the smali way", changing the framework only just to start off, which would leave out performance updates found on htc, but also failed..

I got to the lockscreen, but too much code to update to make it compatible somehow..

So my conclusion is that samsung simply require too much changing to be compatible and it still seeems like they excluded some dalvik functionality and which also were indicated with enabling JIT in build.prop where htc and motorola uses the standard froyo which has it enabled default..

I dont think i will continue any more, as just getting the framework was no goal, as it would leave out performance changes found on htc models in dvm, so im simply gonna skip this one for now..

anyways im still impressed with this phone comparing to a motorola.. its smooth, nice screen and way faster graphics when you do happen to look at racing games..

but you should not expect any more updates on htc sense migration from me.. im simply skipping this one for now.

I might just try the old 2.1 sense edition just to see if its made the same way, but its less likely its worth porting.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Trinitronik:
Ohhh... That so bad news...

Will something changes if Samsung release froyo 2.2 and its sourcecode?

Your're so good developer, it's so sad that you're leaving us... Really hope that 2.2 sourcecode will help you...

So rafyvitto, you're our last chance!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Soniak:
So its impossible port Rom of the DHD to ours galaxy s?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] :
Dont get your hopes to high, i might run into the same issues as him.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] g00ndu:
oh but then, touchwiz is so ****ty! :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] :
Well they have a point and atm theres nothing else we can do. So lets just wait for 2.2 and we'll see where that takes us.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] zyo:
I honestly think there is not much chance of doing that. The degree of customization in HTC roms are tremendous.

Also with the hardware difference its only gonna be more difficuilt.

The biggest problem is Sense UI is not open source so it might be a copyright infringement to actually rip it off HTC devices and port to other brands.

Just my two cents