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[G2 and Desire Z General] StuRoid:
For one you are in America right? So you can't get the Desire Z anyway, you can get the G2 though.

And secondly, this crap about Gingerbread requiring a 1Ghz processor to run was a rumour that Google debunked ages ago so please just get over it and wait like the rest of us to find out what exactly is happening with Gingerbread.

And in anycase the D2 World Edition is almost identical to the Desire Z/G2 anyway. HTC have the new CPU and GPU on these where as the D2 has the new CPU and same old GPU as the original so really they seem on par if this was your case for choosing that so you 'will definitely get Gingerbread'
[G2 and Desire Z General] Captainkrtek:
Besides, The Moto Droid 1 for example can OC to 1.2GHz the G2 should be fine ;)
[G2 and Desire Z General] gtrab:
I find your response very emotional, hey I obviously prefer an HTC device over a Moto one, but the upgradeability is very important for me. I need facts.

Regarding the american bands, pdadb says there's an US version Desire Z scheduled for december

If those google requirements have been 'debunked', I'd appreciate if you can share some links/quotations from trusted sources
[G2 and Desire Z General] icewall:
I'm guessing the reason he seems "Emotional" is because this same post keeps popping up again and again on every forum, and it seems people will keep churning them out with no end in sight. The rumor is based on a tweet. There are tons of articles about this. (I haven't posted allot to this forum so can't actually post links, but just google for it.)

If you want to see the original statements by googles team you can search twitter for it. :) We have no reason to assume Desire Z wouldn't get a 3.0 update, if devices like Desire would. And at any rate, the Qualcomm 7230 (Which is the chip in use) is designed to run between 800 and 1000mhz. :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] LostAlone:
The guys designing these devices aren't stupid. They wouldn't release a device (indeed a premier device) if it's going to go obsolete or at least behind within 6 months. Yes, droid devices are constantly moving forward but certainly not that fast. Just don't worry about this kinda stuff.
[G2 and Desire Z General] MacaronyMax:
Thth are recommend specs the g2 will be plenty fast enough
[G2 and Desire Z General] alex83fr:
The 800Mhz proc from the Desire Z is a Dual-Core processor, so, it's better than the 1Ghz proc from my good old HTC Desire ! I think it has the requirements for Gingerbread !

PS: Andy 3.0 isn't GingerBread ;)
[G2 and Desire Z General] mtl171:
dual proccesor not dual-core. dual as in the cpu and gpu are separate.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Da9L:
Interresting.. Qustion is, if this 'slower' dual cpu, then will be faster, than the single CPU, with intergrated graphics, but higher mhz?
[G2 and Desire Z General] droidgren:
Of course it will.. But mostly it will depend on operation. You can never compare a first 1 generation cpu with later generation by just looking at cpu frequency.
[G2 and Desire Z General] gtrab:
Any link to that supposedly "debunked" minimum hardware reqs ??

I'm lookinig for some confidence on this matter.

.
[G2 and Desire Z General] johseph:
is there anything else coming to the market with a qwerty hook up and touch screen?

Im over winmo and want to try an android phone.

Right now i have TP2 and b4 that i had Touch HD

Does Simbian suck?

I need something that i can use when i go to the UK as well, so like Droid X and all that stuff doesnt work for me.

I like this new HTC but everyone talking about 1ghz and dual processors and how its gonna be slow and no front facing cam blah blah blah makes me think twice, or three times even.
[G2 and Desire Z General] andrewilley:
Frankly I think the front-facing camera thing is a bit of a white elephant at the moment. I've had one on my phone for about three years now (Win Mo) and I've never used it once. OK that may change as networks get faster, but I see no real need for one now.

Andre
[G2 and Desire Z General] StuRoid:
There's that Verizon phone that's been floating around recently that had the fire red keyboard. if I'm not mistaken from one of the pics it's a dual mode and has a sim slot though to be honest you will likely pay a huge premium using that or any other phone like t outside the states.

Think it's either a 3.8" or 4" screen.
[G2 and Desire Z General] xspyda:
I am looking to jump from Symbian to Android but am stuck due to the hardware. You might like to consider the Nokia E7 but it's anyone's guess as to when it might actually see the light of day. As an example, the N8 announced six months ago has still not gone on sale yet!

Symbian is functional but I'm afraid that's about all I can say about it from a user perspective. It doesn't have the developer support of the likes of Android and iOS. The point in its favour is the hardware is generally better - better cameras better audio and often better build quality.

Swings and roundabouts I'm afraid ... always the case!
[G2 and Desire Z General] MiTMaNeK:
Desire Z using second generation of Qualcomms Snapdragon, as i write in other post, read this:

My opinion : Desire Z is faster .. and do you know why?

So..

Desire HD using Qualcomm QSD8255 -> it is Snapdragon 1st generation

specifications:

Scorpion 1 GHz CPU

Integrated 3G mobile broadband connectivity

QSD8250 supports GSM, GPRS, EDGE and HSPA networks

QSD8650 supports CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO Rel 0/A/B, GSM, GPRS, EDGE and HSPA networks

Low-power 65nm process technology

High-definition (720p) video recording and playback up to 30 frames per second

Multiple video codecs: (MPEG-4, H.264, H.263, VC-1, Sorenson Spark, VP6)

GPU - 3D graphics with up to 22M triangles/sec and 133M 3D pixels/sec

High-resolution up to WXGA (1280x720) display support

12-megapixel camera support

Built-in seventh-generation gps engine with Standalone-GPS and Assisted-GPS modes

Support for Wi-Fi® and Bluetooth® connectivity

Multiple audio codecs: (AAC+, eAAC+, AMR, FR, EFR, HR, WB-AMR, G.729a, G.711, AAC stereo encode)

Support for mobile broadcast TV (MediaFLO™, DVB-H and ISDB-T)

Support for Android™, Brew® Mobile Platform and Windows® Phone

Bud Desire Z using Qualcomm MSM7230 -> Snapdragon 2nd generation

Specifications:

Scorpion 800 MHz CPU (can be safely overclocked to 1GHz = Recommanded Maximum )

Integrated 3G mobile broadband connectivity

MSM7230 support for HSPA+ networks - up to 14 Mbps downloads and 5.76 Mbps uploads

MSM7630 support for HSPA+ networks - up to 14.4 Mbps downloads and 15.761 Mbps uploads – as well as CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO Rel A/B, GSM, GPRS and EDGE

Low-power 45nm process technology for higher integration and performance

High-definition (720p) video recording and playback up to 30 frames per second

Multiple video codecs: (MPEG-4, H.264, H.263, VC-1, DivX, DivX 3.11, Sorenson Spark, VP6)

High-performance GPU - up to 41M triangles/sec and 245M 3D pixels/sec and dedicated 3D/2D acceleration engines for Open GLES 2.0 and Open VG 1.1 acceleration

High-resolution XGA (1024x768) display support

12-megapixel camera support

Built-in eighth-generation gps engine with Standalone-GPS and Assisted-GPS modes

Support for Wi-Fi® and Bluetooth® connectivity

Multiple audio codecs: (AAC+, eAAC+, AMR, FR, EFR, HR, WB-AMR, G.729a, G.711, AAC stereo encode)

Support for mobile broadcast TV (MediaFLO™, DVB-H and ISDB-T)

Support for Android™, Brew® Mobile Platform and Windows® Phone

So Desire Z have:

CPU on 800MHz .. but not problem go to 1GHz = Same as Desire HD

GPU 2 x better then Desire HD GPU = +1 to Desire Z

45nm technology - Desire HD have 65nm technology = +1 to Desire Z

So in SoC category is Desire Z better then Desire HD.

Regards, MiTMaN

PS: Repair me please when Im wrong.
[G2 and Desire Z General] gtrab:
nice contrib MiTMaNeK

that GPU thing is particularily interesting

thanks for sharing

Here's the Doird2/Milestone2's 1GHz OMAP 3620 specs

source

-Clock 1000 MHz

-45 nm

-ARM Cortex A8

-IVA 2+ harware accelerator (up to 4x multimedia performance vs previous OMAPs), Multi-standard (MPEG-4, H.264) encode/decode and WMV9 decode at D1 (720 x 480 pixels) at 30 fps - Up to 720p HD res

- PowerVR SGX 530 graphics core (from Imagination Technologies) dedicated 2D/3D graphics hardware accelerator - Support for OpenGL ES 1.1, Open GL ES 2.0, OpenVG

- Image signal processor supporting up to 12 megapixel

- Composite and S-video TV output

- up to WXGA (1280 x 800), 16-million color (24-bit definition) display support

- Linux, Microsoft Windows Mobile, Android Mobile Platform and Symbian

I couldn't find triangles/sec stuff for this one
[G2 and Desire Z General] jokeyrhyme:
Note also that this new GPU/CPU combo chip is different to the Snapdragon found in earlier HTC Androids. It is likely that 800MHz on this new chip bears similar performance to 1GHz on another chip.

This is very similar to comparing Intel and AMD CPUs on the desktop. Because different processor designs have varying Instructions-Per-Clock, you can't make a simple comparison between clock frequencies.

The other thing to note is that a major complaint with smart phones (and Android in particular) is terrible battery life when comparing them to feature phones. I'd be happy with a lower maximum clock if it meant longer times between charges.
[G2 and Desire Z General] albertlgh:
i think Desire HD using 2nd Generation Snapdragon 1GHz processor which is call Qualcomm QSD825 Scorpion.

So, the Desire HD will should have better performance than Desire Z.

But Desire Z should have better performance than Desire(1st generation snapdragon).

You may check the CPU details at Qualcomm website.
[G2 and Desire Z General] zaghy2zy:
Did you just say support for Windows Phone?? so does this mean a port of WP7 is possible for the DHD and DZ?
[G2 and Desire Z General] bratfink:
Nope

No this does not in any way mean there will b a port to the DHD, this just means that the CPU can be used on windows mobile phone by microsoft along with other required hardware, software, drivers etc etc to run win 7. And this is not a special feature, pretty much every Soc will have support for those listed OS's
[G2 and Desire Z General] Da9L:
Exactly my point! It will be interresting to see some benchmarks comparing the 1st gen and 2nd gen :)

But is it correct that the 1st gen Qualcomm chipset was a single core cpu @ 1000 mhz and then new 2nd gen Qualcomm chipset is a singe core cpu @ 800 mhz AND a dedicated graphics gpu whereas the old chipset, graphics was rendered by the cpu?
[G2 and Desire Z General] vinvv:
afaik the CPU is the same, except it's clocked at 800mhz and made in a 45nm process. That should make it a lot more energy friendly. The big gains will come from the GPU (adreno 205), which they say is 4x as fast as the 1st gen snapdragon gpu (adreno 200).
[G2 and Desire Z General] Da9L:
So this means the only difference between the two cpu's is that the Desire Z is running a lower frequency over the Desire HD? Meaning it is indeed a little slower?

Well thats sad....
[G2 and Desire Z General] Noxis:
This has been stated from the original London HTC expo, I am constantly surprised that people don't know this.

It is only 200Mhz and will be easily overclocked anyway. HTC stated that the Desire Z at 800Mhz on the new generation CPU is equiv to the original snapdragon at 1Ghz in the Desire.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Da9L:
Maybe the fact that it is four times faster than the 1st gen will make the cpu less strugleling and therefore it will be at least as fast and maybe faster than the 1st gen.. At least i hope so .. :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] Da9L:
Yeah you probably right. I was just hoping you know. But well if it as fast as 1st gen, we wills till have better battery life compared to 1st gen, that will count too!
[G2 and Desire Z General] Noxis:
Yea I am quietly hopeful about the battery life.
[G2 and Desire Z General] stian230:
I heard that cyanogen said that the root filerne were stored on ext3.

what benefits does this give?

Quote: "The G2 is using ext3 for it's root file system"
[G2 and Desire Z General] Noxis:
Very well known and supported?
[G2 and Desire Z General] daijizai:
Why are people always so hung up on Mhz / Ghz ratings... Look at a Pentium 4 then at a Core 2 Duo then again at a Phenom II... Get over your Ghz obsession.
[G2 and Desire Z General] waiting89:
I agree P4 at 3.4Ghz isn't faster than i5 2.53Ghz!
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
can we lock this thread and also put a sticky "Desire Z with 800MHz = Yes, will get upgrade to Android 3.0 (gingerbread)!!!"

otherwise it will never end...
[G2 and Desire Z General] Noxis:
Calm down, it's just a mobile telephone :p

And it was some bollox announcement that was made that said Gingerbread requires 1Ghz, don't hate so much.
[G2 and Desire Z General] gtrab:
I was -and still am- just asking for facts (links, quotes, news...)

no need for WWIII
[G2 and Desire Z General] HamNCheese:
...unless you own 1.x Motorola or Samsung products.
[G2 and Desire Z General] HamNCheese:
It's been clearly shown that the 800mhz platform that runs the G2 beats numerous other 1ghz devices out there. Die shrinks kind of have that effect - better performance, lower power requirements, etc.

So in summary, G2/Desizre Z > N1 - if N1 gets an upgrade, it's up to HTC and/or t-mo to port it to the G2/Z, not Google.
[G2 and Desire Z General] ericc191:
I'm shocked at how widespread this stupid rumor has become. Everywhere I look.. "but but it has to hav the 1gigas 2 b work wit gingerbread rite!???!@??????"
[G2 and Desire Z General] kholk:
Sooner or later.

Official or unofficial.

We'll get Gingerbread on HTC Vision.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Lennyuk:
Just remember that Gingerbread will only be android 2.3

And there was nothing official from Google to say that it required 1ghz anyway, regardless of the argument on new cpu.

However the second gen at 800mhz is better than a first gen at a higher freq.
[G2 and Desire Z General] elreason4:
800 Mhz, I think not......they could easily clock the G2/Desire Z to 1Ghz with a new kernal in a gingerbread ota (if 1Ghz is actually necessary).....Baconbits .3/setCPU 2.0.4 on my G2 already has 1.497Ghz covered! (i run a conservative 1.3)
[G2 and Desire Z General] Pickx:
There was no reason to bump this. The 'higher minimum specs' claim has (unfortunately!) been debunked.
[G2 and Desire Z General] SN4K3B1T3:
it has confirmed by a google engineers twitter account that there is in fact no minimum requirement! you do remember that it was rumoured by a russian blogger....thats not a very reliable source if you ask me..

@morrildl

Dan Morrill

Random note: there's no hard minimum processor requirement for Gingerbread. Trust me, if there were I'd know. ;)
[G2 and Desire Z General] DanWilson:
The T-Mobile Pulse running at 512MHz (IIRC) has a Gingerbread port.

The OS itself can't have a CPU requirement, and HTC surely will update their 3 Desires.
[G2 and Desire Z General] xZeDgEx:
This is so stupid. The 800mhz chip in the g2/desire z runs circles around most current 1ghz chips. You cannot base an upgrade by CPU speed anyone who knows anything about processors/cpus should know this.
[Galaxy Spica General] bubblegumnex:
Hey everybody.

I'm currently running 2.1 on my Spica and recently have run into an issue. The phone won't lock. When I unlock the phone, I am not prompted for an unlock pattern, despite having set one. I've uninstalled LauncherPro and tried toggled Pattern unlock on and off with no success.

I'm all out of ideas and really baffled.
[Galaxy Spica General] Shiffmeister:
I'm having the same problem with mine.

Have you found a way to fix it yet?
[Galaxy Spica General] syst3m68:
Your ROM may have turned off your lockscreen, i had this problem a while ago, if you have extended power controls, you can turn it back on, if not, then i have no idea.

hope this helps. :)

syst3m
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] iliatay:
ok so im new to ROMs and i was wondering what would be good for me?

i only have 2 criteria:

-has to be fast

-has to be good with games

thanks!
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] dinan:
I'm kind of interested in this too, because my friend has a 32B white T-mobile mytouch 3g and I flashed CM6 on it but it's incredibly slow... wondering which ROM to flash to so it's faster, perhaps a non 2.2 ROM?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] zael99:
I'm a fan of cyanogen for 2.2 and the rooted rogers 2.1 rom if I'm feeling like using sense. Both are relatively fast. I don't do much gaming on my phone though.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shahbor2504:
Hi every one i have been browsing the froum for over an hour now :confused: , looking for the thread that had some htc HD2 serial numbers that allow you to download ROMs from htc, i cant find it :( can anyone plz help!!!

thnx
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] OrionCarl:
whats wrong with using your own serial number??
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] samsamuel:
hd2 rom development section - Leo Official Roms thread, first post first link.

if you have a t mobile us phone, do NOT flash any of those roms, ask for advice first.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shahbor2504:
first thnx a lot!! :D

I have a t-mobile(UK) phone & it won't accept it, i need a serial No. for a standard phone, the one u buy from htc itself without any carrier ROM.

I had a serial No. b4, found it on 1 of the threads & it worked jst cant find the thread :(
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shahbor2504:
at first it sounded like the thread i'm lookin for but its nt :( , i dnt really need the ROM file itself i only need an accepted serial No. i.e not a carrier device e.g t-mobile.

it was in the official ROM updates and the admin i believe put a few serial numbers & he suggested to use them if we have a carrier device to be able to download the ROM from htc's site.

but thanx anyway, appreciated :o
[HTC Aria Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darknomad23:
My browser constantly force quits just before it finishes loading a page. Also my GPS is down, though this was not as unexpected. Any advice is appreciated, though I admit my technical background is limited.
[HTC Aria Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ls377:
Which release sre you on? If you're not on the most recent (6.0.2.1), try flashing that and checking it.
[HTC Aria Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bkmo:
Maybe if you post in the correct thread you will get the help you need.
[HTC Aria Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zedbra:
I recently flashed the latest cm6 and I can confirm all works perfectly.

One game crashes tho. Prolly just needs update for 2.2 f/w
[HTC Aria Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darknomad23:
Thanks. I did try the most recent build, but still was met with much failure. Could not access many settings (would force quit). I did further research and found the cyanogen mod forums which have much more detailed help. Thank You
[HTC Aria Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] egzthunder1:
Thread moved to General.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rocklee99:
Is it possible set CPU can make my battery life worse? im not overclocking it, or underclocking, pluse my phones a little laggy
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phatmanxxl:
Anythings possible, I know setCPU didn't play nice with my Samsung, but I dont have any issues with the EVO. The only setting I use is to underclock waaaaay down when the screen is off.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] v_lestat:
You need to list what settings you are using
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dragon1018:
How does one be able to tag a contact to someone's Facebook?
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tycoon177:
Yes go into edit contact hit menu and join it will give you the option
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xr4v3nx:
Login to the official Facebook app and it will ask you if you would like to sync your contacts to Facebook. Then go to your contacts and long press on your Facebook contact then press Join and you'll know what to do next.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dragon1018:
Thanks so much guys
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tycoon177:
No problem but I found out because of escalavee over at droid-eris.com
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Uhfuecu:
Hello everyone!

I have this weird problem with my diamond, when i push the sleep/power off button the screen turns black but the backlight doesn't go off, also, the hard keys don't work properly, i have to push them serveral times to get them working.

I tried flashing other roms, but the problem is still unsolved, it's a very boring issue, becouse the battery life is very short now.

Is this a known issue? Any hints?

Sorry, my english is still in beta-testing:D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Uhfuecu:
:( Nobody can help?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] braunie:
Sounds like a hardware problem.

1. Have you took the battery out (for a few minutes)?

2. Did you flash a stock-rom? (For htc-device - htc-rom, for O2 - latest O2-rom ...). And after that start the rom and hardreset after configuration.

Good luke ...
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Funkadelick:
I left my phone literally on charger for 2 days straight -- 48 hours

I tried to update my kies to the new firm ware

and it says it's not charged and to recharge it.

Anyone know how to fix this ????

Windows 7 x64 bit
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Funkadelick:
no one knows ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] miro666:
Try this method:

[HOW TO] Calibrate Desire Battery

Regards
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dijitalus:
Has anyone else ran into an issue where once you switched to a custom rom that it is taking nearly 4 hours to get a complete re-charge even while connected directly to a outlet and not a PC? I am having this issue if anyone has any advice its much appreciated.

Ive seen this both on Skyraider and Virtuous 2.7
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] theguitarguy58:
It's a problem with every 2.2 Rom.

Old news
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaboswell:
Turn your phone off for a faster charge....and play around with SetCPU to find a profile and settings that works for you...other than those...nothing I can think of.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smtom:
USB cord vs wall charger

May be a placebo effect, but my device charges (seems to) charge much faster when plugged into the wall charger vs. the USB cable into the PC. FAR faster charge when device is off, in either charging scenario, USB or wall charger.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] burn317:
Started a thread about this a week or 2 ago. The more power you give any smart phone, it seems, the more juice you're going to use. until battery technology catches up we just have to find better ways to charge it. my newest solution, adding usb ports in my car. best thing about it is now I use my phone as dash mounted navigation with Google maps and navigator, works better than any car gps I've seen, probably because Google actually updates their maps automaticly.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mb02:
On CM6, I've learned that if you turn your phone off, plug it into the wall charger, wait a few seconds after the LED turns on, then boot up your phone it chargers at about the normal rate of 1% a minute which was the rate back on stock 2.1. I cant say if this works on the other roms cus i havent tried it on them.

The consensus is that the OS is keeping the phone from charging properly in 2.2, but the RMF that controls charging when the phone is off works normally and somehow retains the correction even after booting the phone up while charging.

BTW, this definitely isn't a development topic...had you looked in Q&A or General, you would have found at least 5 or 6 threads about this issue.