yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] brickstone:
In the words of Rodney King, "Can't we all just get along??" lol

but seriously, we all atleast have 1 thing in common... We own HD2s. We all have atleast one desire in common...for the release of NAND...so we should all love each other and unify together and show love and not hate. Peace and not War. :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Jammie_1989:
Yeh then we can all hold hands, sing and bake cookies lol
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rr5678:
Tell that to "Dubya" :p
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] luca_3_93:
New File on Cotulla Site: magldr108.rar. New version i think.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] juiceppc:
I just hope the NAND version uses RMNET or at least have the data connection issues solved...

On MATTC 1.7 RMNET I have absolutely no data issues. On 1.8, PPP, all the time. My ONLY issue is with screen freezes. Anyone know how to fix that without going to a PPP ROM?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] malaeus:
http://youtu.be/0KciRhnePeU

from today. probably been seen by now.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] deadey3:
hahaha... this thread just became a complete joke, therefore i think it shd be closed..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Crusoe86:
I advised a similar thing, but XDA seems to want such threads... :(
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] krosemm:
So much for nand coming soon...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dharvey4651:
No need for 2 threads discussing the same thing. If you guys want to continue this discussion please take it here:

[Discussion] NAND boot Android on HD2 (No it doesn't exist, just development)

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[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pack21:
ok!

:)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] milli260876:
I'm liking the SD versions but i'm not sure i'd like to commit to binning wm6.5 the android roms (and i've tried a few!) are very buggy and power consuming. If this wipes windows mobile, would there ever be a way to flash it back??
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] BLAST3RR:
Well, those are easily caused by the SD card.

SD card method uses A LOT of power due to constant read/write operations (the main OS runs off it). With that, it isn't the most stable/reliable storage to run an OS from.

So I'm assuming these problems will be addressed.

Also something I asked Cotulla on Twitter.. Still awaiting the answer. Hypothetically it wouldn't be that hard..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] milli260876:
sounds good pal, i'm in if it's stable AND reversible....
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] truthkillszz:
well im coming from having 3 other android phones all with sutom roms so if we are flashing a NAND version of android on the leo then i believe to revert back to wm6.5 all we would have to do is flash a nand version of wm6.5 just like we did with the android in the first place.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] odoss:
GREAT news i'm happy to see that the dream will come true soon :D....

But i hope it will not affect the health of the phone like the overheating ( i HATE THAT !!!! ) because i think it will be hard to flash it again and it will be a new way to flash it...

Waiting !
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Itaintrite:
So if I'm right, this will mean faster Android :D Right? :P

<-- n00b
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] BLAST3RR:
Would be the most logical thing to think (I/O operations go faster)..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] white-energy:
Wow... that was fast (Too F long...).

Anyway, hope to see it working well.. :D

Note: No, thats not what she said! :P
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] samad115:
Using the internal storage, do you think it would be possible to dual boot both OS's?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] abdulsheikh007:
man i have been wiaitng for this since a loooooooong timke....every half an hour i used to check twitter just for this,,,, somenews finally after a long time.....hurrah....am sooooooooo happy..........

finally gonna dump windowss...6.5

but to think of it,, apart from two- three flaws...win 6.5 was a good companion....

yipeee for android...........
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] darkriderz:
This is indeed great GREAT news..... Keep up the good work... :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] diamondX04HT:
reversible or not...me definitely gonna flash android...anyways never ran WM after using android.

I was considering switching to Desire HD...this news makes me hold on to my HD2 longer :-)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] forelli:
Thanks for the grat news, I had them on twitter too! I'm just wondering: does it mean that we'll at last have the possibility to have the playlists on Android? If so, this is freaking great!!!

Thanks to all the people involved in this technological prowess!

f.

EDIT:

The Desire HD is supposed to have a 800 Mhz CPU... deception made mobile phone.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zelduy:
Desire HD? naaah.. I'll wait till Android have a better Processor, RAM, ROM,Resolution etc.. Desire HD is just a bit better than HD2.. a great technology from last year..

Can't wait to flash my nand.. :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] sterkejerreke:
Great news

Inspite the fact I like my WM 6.5 i think Android has the future.

What do you mean by soon available? This weekend?:D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] odoss:
Me too i wanted to throw the hd2 away after having a lot of freezing and overheating for both wm6.5 and android roms i've tested i'm upset and i'm planning to buy and iPhone 4 ( i dont like it but it's STABLE and SOLID ), but let's see what the nand can offer, if it's not a stable one then, i'll smach my hd2 to the ground :mad:... i'm sick of those issues.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] j3.cole:
Wow! I can finally stop trolling and stick to one thread and contribute. Too awesome you guys are!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Mik0:
He tweeted that you can go back to Windows simply by flashing the official ROM :)

Sweetness!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nawcho:
My mouth is watering.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] fstluxe:
I will donate €10 for the group that has made the job done...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] DN41:
what great news :)

lets wait...hopefully not so long :D

DN41
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] 10507:
How do you do that?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] lebmb:
i wonder if it could made into something like on the Tilt/vogue nand

or better :)

but patience has its virtues :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Showtime7:
Following him now... Been waiting for this, just hope it's more stable with SOD/screen freeze issues fixed.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] romanmusic:
Ребята! Я готов заплатить вам 100USD за полноценную рабочую прошивку Android для HD2.

Ждем!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] suzaku:
definitely great news!!:) but i wonder how it'll be like.

the fact that winmo should be there to run the software emulator (haret.exe) and getting the drivers to work aren't in favor of the NAND boot, especially when the other couple of phones that got a NAND android have lots missing/buggy drivers.

hope this is all fixed :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] inexorable:
GREAT!!!

Waiting for it! =D

THANKS to the hard team 's work.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] d3l1:
In theory, why should it not be reversible? Am I wrong or shouldn't doing a task29 wipe the NAND? So if you want to change the ROM, just do a task29 and flash the ROM of your choice, WM or Android. Forgive me if I'm wrong.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Rakiem:
YES BABY. Waiting for first Android ROM! :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] arifqur:
For each version of the Rom I name the android folder after that and make the same change in the startup.txt

For example for Darkstone's Sense Rom V2, I re-named the Android folder to"AndroidDSv2"

and in the startup.txt I changed as follows:

set cmdline "rel_path="AndroidDSv2"

So I can have as many Android builds on my sd card as the space permits.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tinuz97:
I think one of the forum rules is typing in english.....i do not understand caveman language :p
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] voileuxcool:
Thanks you for your work ! *

HD2 is the best phone of the world ! HIHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] movan:
romanmusic say, that he ready to pay $100 for ready full functional Android ROM
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Jammie_1989:
Tell him to donate to the dev team and wait like every one else :) amazing job these devs are doing will bw donating to them all end of month when I get paid.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] juiceppc:
WOOT!!!

Sorry about the size but I think this news deserves it. Can not wait for this. If it works and it's stable I have absolutely no problem giving them 5$ USD. And I'm a cheap ass.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nasnoma:
Thats nice to hear. Hope the devs. will address issues with light sensor, freeze, volume, delay waking up from sleep and battery too
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Jammie_1989:
LMAO :D samesies but £5 i'm not that cheap :rolleyes:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nasnoma:
Its gonna be cool if darkstone and co. finished working on the new desire hd sense rom. I saw him running the rom on his hd2 (youtube) but he has pulled the video off for reasons he knows better
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pack21:
I just have this baby waiting, for Lord Cotulla, and his team.

they deserve a nice mime!

:D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] majorimpact:
Christ wish i was a developer!!!! gonna def get me one of them.

Fantastic job to all.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] delete123:
Where exatly can we donate to the group or cotulla?

They definetly deserve some $$ !!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] 10507:
Then, how does android loader know which version to execute?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] arifqur:
I use the Chucky Rom and it comes with an Android selector which can automatically determine which folders have the Haret.exe and shows all these folders when you execute it in windows and from there you can manually select from the name of the folder
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] DennisCSUF:
yes that's him :rolleyes:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pack21:
I let you, play a little, if you make the port of Desire HD tomorrow...... but only a little, because to play all night, just even with the NAND...so it is reserved for Cotulla and his team.

:p
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nebuneli:
OMG !!! OMG !!!

I was thinking to buy a Desire HD but now ... I won't. I LOve my Leo:rolleyes:

Many Thanks Team
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Ducter:
While this is development, its not. This is a post of a screen shot from Cotulla's twitter, this post itself isnt anything, should be moved to general or closed.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] juiceppc:
Way to be a party pooper. When this happens, it will be hands down one of the greatest accomplishments XDA has ever done. Short of Flashing ROMS in the first place. So, if you don't want to be involved, don't bring everyone else down.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Lord Spectre:
Oh my God! Can't wait for this!!!!! :eek:

Thanks to cotulla and his staff!!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dallasjim:
I totally agree!!! You people are amazing!!! THANK YOU!!!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] BLiizz:
wow this is amazing news! hd 2 is going to run like a champ. i wonder how long its going to take to realease the first android rom. not that im not patient just wondering.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] panosg1977:
I really can't wait for this! :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] funsani:
this is too good

This could be a perfect outcome for HD2 owners... so much so that I believe HTC may not let it happen.

(I hope i am wrong)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] gilla87:
I also read this on Twitter and am patiently waiting for it.. only thing I wanna know is one thing, (which might not benefit from NAND) with Android running from internal storage and it almost being as though its like the native OS running, might there be a chance the media audio could gain anything from this? The speaker never goes too loud and I usually have to cup the phone with my hand to share audio from the speaker with a friend... the audio and battery consumption are my only gripes about the current android builds we have been running as of late. Sorry if this is a stupid question.. cotulla is the man and darkstone also rocks.. thank you and good night.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] 10507:
Hopefully, we will have a dual boot system for our HD2.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] eenbox:
Very good news! It'd be nice to get Android OS on NAND and WinMo on SD CARD... JK ... its nice they will make it the way to flash winmo rom back...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] BLAST3RR:
I think that audio is rather an driver issue. Might be tweakable by adjusting them settings.. I DO know that phones in the EU aren't supposed to go louder than an xx dB, so it might aswell easily be boostable (@ WM we could do this through an regedit change). No idea how the odds on any fix for this are.

As far as battery consumption goes; I have had great performance running Android off my HD2, better than WM I dare to say. I think this will only get better once we switch to NAND.

Guess for both points 'Time will tell'.

PS: Please do note that I am no developer, just the messenger!

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And indeed, Cotulla has confirmed that it will be revertable and that dual boot for Linux is possible. I don't think WM dualboot is possible because Linux and Windows Mobile are too different on the bootload process. With that, there isn't enough space for them both on the NAND (well, for EU phones not), methinks.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Nikola G.:
Thanks for passing along the word, made my evening. All that it remains for us is to be patient and optimistic about this. Android on HD2 dev. just keeps getting better and better.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Sleef:
Sorry if I missed this earlier in the thread but...

I'm assuming this would allow us to use something like ROM Manager and to boot into an Android recovery like ClockworkMod, correct? Essentially, turning this into an ersatz native Android device.

Might this also help with freeze issues?

At any rate, I despise WinMo and I'm looking forward to banishing it for good. Thanks to the devs who spend their time working on this stuff!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dj_ghosie:
Yes Wm 6.5 was stable and good after several iteration of patches and custom mods, but the system is at the end of the road.

Although MS is pushing for the migration to Wp7, it seems Android will be the way to go for us users as it'll take time to build the knowledge (let aline stability) of Wp7. Personally I don't think the devs will wait this time round. It'll be a repeat of Palm...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] :
i hope the first rom is of the desire hd with official boot screens, etc....not anything energy looking (no offense)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] lemonspeakers:
energy... hahaha... lol... energy is just way OD (overdone). Good that he can cook and customize, but I don't like his taste, honestly.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] harpreet1988:
No this will not allow you to use ClockwordMod
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] HTC_HDD:
Ohhh nice news :D

Thanks to the devs for their work!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] juiceppc:
I hear ya. I mean it almost sounds too good to be true.

But on the other hand the Desire HD does offer more hardware wise that still doesn't compare. I hear the proc is much faster.

I hope that with a NAND Rom we can get HD video recording and instant waking from standby without hiccups. Dreaming...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] k87:
Hope it doesnt have the robotic voice issue and all!!

will it have the hd recording?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Sleef:
Right on. Oh, well.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Sichroteph:
I hope you are right, but i am pretty sure you will be desapointed.

Did you ever heard about ram ? Well that is where our Os is stocked, not in sd ...

Evo users have battery problems too.

It will be faster too boot, but we will loose a lot of space for installing apps and it will be tricky to test another builds... I won't exect a lot from nand if i were you.

Check this out :
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] djdant:
I wonder if this means we'll have a Android Bootloader like I do on my myTouch where i can flash from SD =D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] al11588:
Honestly, I would love to have Android, Windows Phone 7 and Meego Multibooted on my HD2.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] whynot66:
Pft...... did you say iPhone.....
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jriv:
We should be able to do that as long as a custom recovery image gets ported over

sent from my hd2 aka tmobile evo eatin on some froyo
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] huansp:
I'm waiting for the Android ROM.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] whynot66:
According to irc today nand drivers ate ready and quoting cotulla "now seems all working"

:-)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Sichroteph:
f5 f5 f5 f5 ;-)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] whynot66:
Will be expecting a release in the very near future :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) f5 f5 f5
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Beefheart:
I have to be honest here, Android on Nand doesn't appeal to me as much as it used to, primarily because I can't imagine it offering that much of an advantage over what I have at the moment.

Now, I don't say that because I don't think it will offer advantages (the I/O speed increase over even a class 10 card will be significant for example) but rather the wonders the cookers have managed to achieve with the current kernels that are available. For example, I now get a battery life better than I ever had with WM and I can't imagine a Nand based build increasing it in any significant way. I have also compared the general running speed of tasks with my brothers Desire running Froyo and there is effectively no difference. I also haven't had any issues coming out of standby for months. So if you take away the advantages of running from a card (for example easy booting of multiple builds and the ability to completely backup and restore in minutes) then I'm wondering what I would be swapping to a Nand based build for.

That said I would definitely try it out as I doubt someone as savvy as Cotulla would put this much effort into something that wasn't worthwhile.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rorambow:
Would be awesome
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] funky81:
Cant more agree than this!! I'll donate 10us for Cotulla and his team if the dual boot works.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] edangel:
Nand driver is completed...yeahhhh :)

soon..we can use android as the very main OS instead of winmo...all that we need is to be patient..

also,nand brings better power consuption and even battery performance as example,there are some android builds (on sd crad that were we re running)uses 7% battery drain per hour...for some 5%!so with nand probably we will get 2% per hour..and better gaming such as asphalt 5 will be running smoothly!

well..more infos will be available soon of course trying out the nand version...

the best part is that if you want to flash back to winmo and run dual boot android thats possible :) and so great for those who will not be pleasant with nand.... :) :D :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Renegade_Rulez:
That is awesome news! Got my HD2 from work last week (we need to buy WM phones in the company) been running android on it since day 1 and loving it !!!!

Losing the WM6 completely would be super cool :D

Keep up the good work.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] inny2:
frankly I saw people going like "I will donate if that", "will donate when that happens", why don't you donate like the rest of us without all the if(s). Just a suggestion to respect all the work that is being done behind the scenes and a means to appreciation.

Good job to the team that made it through with the NAND.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Jammie_1989:
Agreed :) it all will happen just a matter of when. Be patient its only round the corner.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Sichroteph:
if the android build is well configured you should have 1% per hour
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Beefheart:
This is precisely what I was thinking. I have even better than that - I have just checked my battery usage and it's over five hours since it was taken off charge and it's on 96%. And it hasn't even been in standby the whole time. Hence my post on the previous page.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] whynot66:
+1 an improvement on 1%ph would be amazing
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] slvrbllt:
Taking the risk of being OT, which configuration you get that amazing results on, buddy ?

WM Rom version, Android build,...

As a matter of fact I get those results when my HD2 is switched off!! :-)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Sichroteph:
Check my thread on first page, called "a detailed guide to control your android build" and check if you missed something. If not, it can be your sdcard.

Edit: here its the link :

xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=786078
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Beefheart:
I have a Samsung Class 6 8gb card and I'm running OzDroid Rom as my WM base.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=774417

And mccmjoon76's FRG33 non-Sense build.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=773790

I then have a simple SetCPU setup of 998 max, 245 min with on demand scaling and a single 'Screen Off' profile of 384 max and 245 min with on demand scaling.

I have had very good battery life on previous builds and setups but this is by far the best I have had.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] xmRipper:
I already have 1% battery drain per hour

when screen is off

on Android. (cpu is running at ~250mhz when screen is off)

On Windows, it's %1 per three hours

when screen is off

.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] domineus:
ditto those are mine with winmo...I love having the chance to use a different OS in nand, but really its not that huge of a deal...oh we hate winmo then why buy the phone???? really =/

Great job cotulla and all though =)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] deho:
dual boot

Android on NAND and WM on SD that would be a perfect combination , i like android but still would like to have an option of running WinMo because some apps are still way better in winmo then in android , just to name two , skype and adobe pdf reader.