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[Epic 4G General] crawrj:
Although I never had a GPS problem it does seem a bit faster now. I was really worried about GPS issues after reading all of the reviews and articles. I use GPS a lot and was very disappointed by what I was reading. I got my Epic at 8am on the day of launch and fired up GPS to test and it worked great. Has worked every day since with no issues at all. I don't understand how or why it works for some (because I have seen other people say the same thing about GPS) and not for others.
[Epic 4G General] othan1:
I read it. I have no idea who he is. Doesn't mean he's wrong or right, just means my initial anecdotal evidence is positive. Tomorrow may be different, but I don't take things at the word of people I don't know. If it's bad tomorrow, I'll come back and say so. My experience isn't proof of anything outside of my experience.

Oh, did you know the common dog is actually part of the family felinus and not caninus as previously thought?
[Epic 4G General] APOLAUF:
No disrespect or flamebait intended whatsoever, but isn't that somewhat the point of the forums? :)
[Epic 4G General] rmt5:
I fear that premature threads like this are counterproductive. If Samsung checks these boards at all they'll think, "Well if even the tech savvy are fooled into thinking it's fixed, we definitely don't actually have to do anything." They are just *looking* for a reason to not actually fix this problem. There really needs to be constant and unrelenting/vocal frustration to force them into addressing this. The minute it appears on gizmodo/engadget is the moment when Samsung *might* begin to care.

I'm particularly fearful that only the gsm versions are getting the official fix because of the Sprint statement that the problem was fixed prior to release. And Epic owners will just be left high and dry.
[Epic 4G General] Firon:
Yeah, I tested this morning and my GPS is definitely broken, so the problem is indeed not fixed. :(
[Epic 4G General] styckx:
Applied update. After letting the GPS search around for a minute it locked outdoors. Turned it off, back on then it locked in seconds. Turned it off, walked inside house turned GPS back on, locked in a few seconds. Walked around my entire house, upstairs and down stairs and it stayed locked to an average of 5 sats. Rebooted my phone, and still near instant lock indoors. This was done with wifi on and then off and with `Use Wireless Networks' disabled for all tests.
[Epic 4G General] Firon:
Wait a few hours and try again. It'll probably be broken.
[Epic 4G General] Eazail70x7:
Is it possible that because of some of the performance enhancements, that the gps locks on faster? (What I'm trying to ask is does the gps lock on quicker due to the phone itself being faster?
[Epic 4G General] Unknown Zone:
This is from evdoinfo:

"The changes and fixes with this OTA are:

* Optimized, HotSpot in 3G idle mode to help conserve battery power

* Optimized, Applied Qualcomm patch for performance enhancement

* Added, Media Hub

* Modified, WiMAX exit delay

* Modified, UI “Noisey” One to “Noisy One”

* Fixed, 32GB mSD card is not recongized when formatted in device

* Fixed, When playing video, the playback is paused if a headset is connected/disconnected

* Fixed, Sorry popup when DRM file le is selected in the Gallery

* Fixed, Hotspot registration issue"
[Epic 4G General] aero1:
NO, you anecdote isn't positive and isn't; evidence, a false positive which betrays yoru lack of knowledge of this confimred bug and how and when it will manefest.

No one, no one at all wont get a nice fix after their phone is reset by this or any update..

And I am not right becasue I think or feel I am, but because those of use who know how to test it have all confirmed it, as has Sprite device level tech.

Above is why the OP has done a serious disservice with a objectively incorrect thread title reflecting total lack of knowledge of the bug.

Several posters are now saying the same thing thinking theirs are fixed when the update doesn't touch any GPS fuinction. Duh. ANY device reset clears the cache an clears the problem for some time. That is why when people get stuck and call sprint and they reset their phone as Sprint asks them, problem goes away.

The bug is a persistence of data that will expire bug. Removing the data as the OP did (and if he doesn't know that he 100% did why is he posting this thread?) and forcing the download of new data temporarily kills the bug.

All the subsequent people posting they are OK now, less than 24 Horus after anyone got an update whcih reset their phone, simply means these people are not testing their phones.

There are people doing several resets per day or turning on and off wireless location (which also can reset cache), or leaving a gps enabled function on who are reporting they are okl. Seriously, STOP. Stop posting results from when you have reset the phone or GPS and saying it is ok. That was never the issue.

If you want to test, install some testing software and and pm me for controls, otherwise you are doing everyone a disservice.
[Epic 4G General] othan1:
Hey, I created the artificial heart but you don't see me going on about it.

All I'm saying is that in time, your opinion will mean more to me the more correct you are. No big deal. No reason to take it personally. Anyone can say they're anything they want around here.

If you want to get a point across, maybe be less abrasive and actually explain what these fancy terms are instead of being the guy running around screaming, "You're WRONG ON THE INTERNET!!!!"

I'm okay with being wrong. You're wrong a lot by the time you get to be my age and you learn that you will survive.
[Epic 4G General] othan1:
I've asked by never received an answer but what does that mean?
[Epic 4G General] APOLAUF:
Possibly an update to the rado chipset... I think that was listed as one of the fixes. Users are reporting that overkill CPU usage during 3G data transfer seems to be fixed/improved. The 3G radio was flashd durng the update process, so if that's the update, I wouldn't be srprised. (Qualcomm makes the radio chipsets on this phone.)
[Epic 4G General] aero1:
Friend it is mainly this thread title, that should be making everyone angry. It is irresponsible.

The OP seems to have experienced the bug. fine. But if he had done one bit of research he would know that this is an intermittent problem caused by data expiring over time and therefore it cannot be rationally or honestly asserted as a fix at the time he posted due to the recentness of the update. Any udpate even of the camera would reboot the phone rendering GPS ok for up to a day.

although it is covered in the main thread the main problem with aGPS on Epic is this:

Epic, along with almost every smart phone uses "aGPS" when it can (rpesens of both sufficient satellites and of network resources). that means it will use the satellites only to determine where it is down to a very high precision,. after using the network to get some daily expiring "assistance" information on how to utilize the sats and where to expect them.

In order to use the satellites the unit sees, in normal GPS, it needs to spend 5 to 15 minutes downloading from the satellites "Almanac" information which expires every few days, and "Ephemris information whcih partially expires in a few hours. Depending on what is expired this creates the difference between "hot", "warm", "Cold" and "factory" starts.

If you have a device that can connect to a network though, the device can get ephemeris and almamac virtually instantly and thus use the satellites for location virtually immediately.

The information is kept for some time in the device, in a cache. But keeping old information and not getting new info can cause the device, under certain circumstances, to see the satellites fine but not use them as it tries to use the expired or partially expired assistance data it has in memory.

The Epic is manifesting classic symptoms of either not knowing if the data on the satellites is old or new, or, if knowing not being able to flush out the old data and populate with new data.

So you can see there that is easy to see and idenfyu as the problem area. A few people reporting it and our subsequent testing means the bug it per se exists on all handsets. It is not a subjective issue, it is on all of them. But SOME users will not be affected often at all, perhaps only at some future datge when they need gps the most, depending on their habits and usage while others will be affected daily.

The update flushed the users cache and per se forced a download of new data when he invoked GPS next. His test and his assertions are completely invalid. Moreover, Sprint knows there is a problem but we don't know samsung acknowledges it or is working on any fix themselves.

it isn't even rational that a fix would have been in this update so early since this update, d107, showed seven days ago on ambassador models with an even older initial firmware.

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[Epic 4G General] othan1:
Just kidding...I read it and I thank you for the unabridged version. That is something I can understand and respect.
[Epic 4G General] tuleshed:
I did the update, and my gps seems unchanged at best.. FWIW
[Epic 4G General] trevorwhopkins:
I have a question unrelated to all the bickering. I could easily be wrong, but this would seem to be a forum people use to figure stuff out.

Anyhow... aren't modern smartphones radio chipsets sort like SOC's where the WiFi and alot of times the GPS are integrated? If so, is it possible that the qualcomm patch addressed gps?

If the problem is a data error, could a software update addressing performance [ Like IO problem] help there?
[Epic 4G General] LordLugard:
I was probably one of the lucky few who NEVER had any problems with GPS before...
[Epic 4G General] nismology:
You and me both. My GPS has been flawless in real-world use.
[Epic 4G General] APOLAUF:
I understand your frustrations - your GPS has been working great, and you feel like an outcast for not being part of our "my GPS can't get a lock" club. But don't worry, this community is here to help! Want to be a member? Here's how to make it happen!

I too have wandered the dark roads of getting perfect GPS fixes, but the solution is fast, and I'll place $5 that I can get yours to fail as well. :) First, enable WiFi. The whole night. Let's say you return from your job at 6PM. Open up GMaps one last time to see that lovely GPS lock. Now it's time to close it, and enable WiFi, your battery-saving, bandwidth-providing best friend. Keep it on, and enjoy those lovely fast tubes! 4G? Psh, this is 11g baby! (pun intended). Your phone should stay home with you to enjoy the WiFi goodness overnight. Leave any GPS-based applications closed, no cheating here!

Tomorrow, let's say you wake up at 8:30 AM. Just for kicks, you want to make sure your house has not moved to a different state. (It happens to everyone.) With WiFi still on and connected (wait for it to re-establish its link in case it has gone dormant), open up GMaps. Wait, what? Your GPS won't lock? Unpossible! Now imagine an xda-dev member yelling "haha, made you reboot!" as you realize that even if you turn off WiFi, you'll have to reboot your Epic to get a lock once more. Welcome, you are now a full member of our club! :)
[Epic 4G General] J3ff:
It is always fun to see / hear about people who think they dont have the problem that 1000's report.... and come to realize they just aren't using the phone how most people (here) use it.
[Epic 4G General] Senater_Cache:
I just got my third epic.

Instant lock, right outside radio shack in the ghetto. without network.

Haven't applied the D107 yet, because on my last epic, it F'ed the auto brightness.
[Epic 4G General] aero1:
Off course it did. The bug has to do with network assistance the cache being stuck.

And you did use network assistance, otherwise your first lock would have taken 15 minutes. Don't confuse the network assistance problems we are discussing with wireless network location, which i entirely difference, has no bearing whatsoever on aGPS on Epic.

Seriously this is a serious forum. If you don't read the actual problem, as those reporting theirs "ok" are, you are contributing nothing.
[Epic 4G General] badasscat:
No, you don't have to reboot. You just have to run GPS Test and toggle GPS once or twice through the app.

GPS Test seems to flush the cache. I've heard the same about other GPS utilities.

It's annoying, but not as annoying as rebooting (which requires me to do a bunch of other stuff beyond just waiting for the reboot).
[Epic 4G General] aero1:
that doesn't work. one of the first things we tested since we were using gps test three weeks ago to diagnose the problem. gpstests cache flush does not work with epic (nor with half the android phones). It settings also does not work with epic. would that it did. you can can contact the developer and he will telly you the same as he told me.
[Epic 4G General] nismology:
I will try this just for you!! Dunno if I want into your club though...:o

This special case seems like a far cry from "THE GPS IS BROKEN!! AVOID THIS CRAP PHONE!!!11" that I had been hearing from some anti-Samsung pundits. I'm sure that the GPS is flawed, but I was expecting 5 minute locks and such severe inaccuracy that turn-by-turn navigation would be impossible, under any circumstances. Clearly, there are varying degrees of malfunction on a device-by-device basis but I have been pleasantly surprised to discover that the issue in general (at least with my particular device) is not necessarily as pervasive as some made it seem.

I will exit stage left however as I have nothing technical to add and haven't done any controlled testing. All I know is, the dang thing works for me.
[Epic 4G General] badasscat:
If that's the case, then add me to the group that has never had a problem with GPS.

Because I've had 8 satellites in view with no lock for 2-3 minutes, then I run GPS Test, toggle the GPS and instantly get a lock on all 8 satellites. And it works every single time.

If you're telling me this is all by chance, then my GPS apparently works fine. And I use my phone exactly in the way described above (in the description of how you get GPS to fail), pretty much 100% of the time.
[Epic 4G General] rhca50:
Following your logic, I'm trying to get mine to fail, and can't seem to NOT get a lock.... but you said something in your description that made me think....

I'm on Latitude, and location updates happen relatively often. Could that be keeping my GPS updated?

Let me describe my usage:

I travel nationwide nearly 100%. I completed my 78th flight of the year tonight. Since picking up the Epic, I've noticed that the GPS lock takes a few seconds longer than my Evo did, but it's still relatively fast. (under 10 seconds maybe?). I always get a lock. My friend with a Galaxy S (AT&T) didn't believe me, and told me to download GPS Test. Sure enough, we fired it up, and nearly instantly locked in on 8+ satellites.

As I move around, I sometimes put my phone in airplane mode, sometimes I turn it off... sometimes I forget to do either. I'm sometimes on flights that are barely 1 hour, and other times flights that are 6 hours. When I get to my rental car, my phone is my only GPS and it always locks in and directs me. Wifi on, off doesn't make a difference. The only way I can get the satellite icon to flash (showing it lost lock) is if I pull the phone back toward me (Certain rental cars' roofs block the signal). If it is sitting on my knee or in a cupholder, it never has a problem getting a lock.

I'm not saying there isn't a problem... but either I got lucky, or maybe there is something else happening that hasn't been mentioned yet... and that is perhaps what you eluded to. Latitude (or something similar) keeping our GPS data updated in the background.

Maybe it's another test point to throw in to the mix?
[Epic 4G General] thedevilslettucemd:
Unfortunately, I have applied the Cold Start fix and still am unable to get a lock no matter how many times I reboot. This is the second epic i've gone through and I live 45 mins from both radioshack and our local sprint store. Is there something i'm missing or am I just extremely unlucky?
[Epic 4G General] APOLAUF:
Going in and out of airplane mode probably causes ephemeris update. Also, you're leaving WiFi off, very likely, which seems to work nicely. I always get a lock within 10 seconds if I leave WiFi off. However, the moment WiFi goes on, and it's time to update ephemeris, I don't get a lock. At times, I do have update failures even without WiFi on, but that has now been exceedingly rare as of DI07. So, based on your description of your routine, your GPS is behaving exactly the same way it is for all of us. Because we're not as mobile, and because we're using WiFi more frequently, and because we're not toggling airplane modes, we see problems while you don't.

As for latitude, it's a good question - I have mine turned on as well, but the moment I goto WiFi and leave it on for a few hours, ciao ephemeris. Not even GPS Status can save me there. I have to reboot. Keep in mind that Latitude doesn't use GPS - only tower-based LBS. Otherwise, your battery life would be more in the tank than it already is.

Glad it's working out for you!
[Epic 4G General] DotMpeg:
GPS is faster than before I will say but definitely not instant. Most of the time, I use it for directions when lost while driving (don't try this) and back on the G1 as soon as I turn on gps it found me but the network didn't always load the map fast enough and on here map loads fast but gps plays catchup 30secs to a min later. Don't seem like much but in my life that time plays a factor (while driving).

Sent from my Epic 4G using the XDA App
[Epic 4G General] aero1:
There isn't "something else" happening, your usage is exactly the type where ephemeris is likely being cleared. It isn't being cleared the right way, that is the bug we all, you too, have, but it is being cleared a lot by your usage pattern,. going in and out of airplane or turning he phone on and off a lot may easily be clearing yoru ephemeris or setting the expiry so it is seen..
[Epic 4G General] aero1:
Make absolutely sure the alternate to aGPS,"use wireless networks" is off, my tests show it can interfere with aGPS. It cannot help, but it can interfere. make sure it is OFF.

If tht is the case and this is your second epic, you may want to consider a different model or waiting to see if a official fix is ever promulgated. The cache issue the cold start method addresses is not the only issue with Epics GPS
[Epic 4G General] thedevilslettucemd:
I already had use wireless networks off, no go :/. I think I'm going to replace it one more time and if the cold start workaround doesn't keep the problem at bay, I will return th device and get an evo temporarily (only to return it a month from now to get another epic with the issues fixed) .
[Epic 4G General] bomix:
Same here.. I can't believe it takes me 2-3 GPS on and offs/ for it to lock on my location. oh well.. just have to deal with it.
[Epic 4G General] aero1:
for all it is worth sprint ADP has seen the problem themselves now.

But you have to realize that the Epic seems to have lower than normal SNR, whcih could well mean that even if other bugs are fixed, it may never be as good at agps as soem competing devices..
[Epic 4G General] thedevilslettucemd:
Honestly, I wish mine worked at all. Even if it won't be completely accurate, SOME gps is better than NO gps on a phone this expensive.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] htc_fagn:
I looked for a thread that explain me the reason for rooting

the Phone but I haven't found it.

Can you explain me?

Is it as the Iphone Jailbreak?

What is not allowed in not rooted phone?

Thank you in advance
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] knudsen81:
With root you van uninstall apps, games that comes with the phone.

You can also see paid apps in country that dont have it and much more

Sent from my U20i
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] HerrKuk:
Because you can!
[TG01 Themes and Apps] HentaiZ:
Hi guys.I have installed the G-Alarm 2.6 on my TG01, and works perfectly with only 1 little problem : no vibrations

And that is an option that i need so if anyone could help me solve the problem, that would be great.

THX
[XPERIA X10 General] vatis24:
Greetings everyone,

I am running now the 026 Generic firmware and i noticed that my photo quality improved a lot from 020.

Also during night my photos are actually pretty nice.

Here are some photos with the 026.

If anyone can share opinions or facts .. thanks.
[XPERIA X10 General] Contrarian:
You just wanna show off your house don't you.

Lighting is very important though.
[XPERIA X10 General] Gentimp:
They really have to fix this. My k850i makes better shots than this. I hope they fixed the zoom and focus in the update. When I try to make a shot if a document, I can't read it. When it focuses the letters become readable for a second but when you shoot its vague.
[XPERIA X10 General] mingleberry:
Try using the Vignette app for this. In my experience, the problem is less about focus and more about compression: the built-in camera app compresses the images way too much and there's no way to change it. If you use Vignette you can set the images to superfine and things get ALOT better - I can capture small typeface at some distance and still find it legible.

Of course, I would prefer it if the SE camera app worked better itself to prevent users having to invest in a separate app...
[XPERIA X10 General] JonRushton:
Wow... +1 for the Vignette app....

Just done a little experiment...

(Its a picture of my screen, which i thought would show the quality difference more obviously)

I have cropped the same part of the screen in each.

:eek:

Jon
[XPERIA X10 General] Gentimp:
Left is vignette, right?
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
Yep! When you click the images, it says "Vignette" at the bottom.

It's not a bad little app. The interface could really use some work, but, it does its job.
[XPERIA X10 General] damirbusic:
But it is SLOOOW, I have tried that app today and from shutter pressing to saved photo it takes like 5 seconds ! I have puted it on 8 mpix.
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
Doesn't take that long for me..if you include the time it takes to process the image(which it does in the background) then yeah, it is something like 5 seconds per image
[XPERIA X10 General] Lord Takyon:
Vignette is super slow here too, that's why I stopped using it. If I try and take a few pics in fairly quick succession it practically grinds to a halt for atleast 30 seconds. Also had a nasty habit of losing images for me.

The se camera does not do this, but, as already stated, it is lower quality. Really need both apps and use whichever is suitable for the task at hand, but this is not a very good compromise.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] sale666:
android.process.acore has stopped unexpectedly problem, force close..

How do i fix this? what can i do? :(...

Now iv been getting HTC sense cannot start so thats the second error =(..

aww i really want to run this! can some 1 help me solve this?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] DHD123:
:)

Can you give some info about your setup?

What WM rom and what android build are you using?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] sale666:
Oh sorry im such a noob! XD...

Here is what i downloaded

mattc Leo + Froyo w/Sense 1.7

And my rom is Artemis 32.0 WWE

Radio 2.12.50.02_2

Os version 5.2.23577

manila 2.5.20183025.0

i have formated my memory card and it came with the phone its a 2gig card.

its a 512mb european not 1024 us.

Any info on this?

thanks!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dbh369:
I'm not sure but 2 gig might not be big enough, that build haas a1 gig data store plus ask other files...

When I had that problem, had to do a panasonic reformat on the sd card.

Sent from my HD2 on mattc froyo sense.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mastajest:
Agree...a reformat with panasonic SDFormatter solved all my booting problems. Now that's what I use for all my sd cards. Also, the 2Gig sd size might be part of the problem.