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[Desire General] CONTACTMC:
Was gonna go for the HD untill I realised that it has a TFT screen, are they mad?

I recon if it was Amoled or even super LCD most desire fans would have upgraded, dont think I will bother now.

If the Desire HD had a super Amoled screen and dedicated graphics for games it would hands down be the best phone ever. Why are HTC holding back?

They could have murked Apple and with this phone!
[Desire General] iLHaNroID:
I'm agree with all comments in this thread by far & I beleive our Desire is still the best android device at the present, from all aspects, especially the dimensions, and -after the latest fw upgrades- Desire is almost perfect in terms of capabilities and performance. The only thing that sounds negative is limited a2sd but it is not a hw issue, and will be sorted out in short as soon as devs update their fellow apps. As to hardware, we have amoled screen 3.7" which is ideal size for a phone (we are still talking about a phone, not tablet or pda), needless to mention camera, flashlight and notification led. Yes, it would be really perfect if HTC could put together a front camera, secondary mic, tv-out (let's say mini hdmi) and wlan-n to our Desire, but it then could cost much more, rite? S Galaxy has dlna + tv-out but no flashligt, nor notification led, iFon 4 and SE X10 have no FM radio. Manufacturers are not making a perfect combination on one device knowingly. Desire was the best device closest to my criteria when I decided to buy it (upgraded fr SE P1i), the case is still so.
[Desire General] iLHaNroID:
From this answer you/we cannot say anything because they answered your questions just to make your query is responded. Btw hope we get them all officially, I think we may expect such improvements/updates supplied to Desire by HTC until it will complete a full year in its economical life, i.e. we may be granted with all updates that are (to be) released until Feb/Mar 2011. That's my opinion.
[Desire General] DroidBois:
So no definite no or yes either way on the new sense, and it seems we are not really missing out on the incremental updates to the HD and Z. My wife wants a Z, any reason NOT to??? I heard the SLCD and the AMOLED are almost indistinguishable for all due purposes.
[Desire General] GANJDROID:
Its obvious we'll get it. Whether its by ota or devs porting it, we will get it. With all these great new features, I think devs will be quick to pounce and port if needed.

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire General] PremiumReview:
I have bin told, that HTC has said no.
[Desire General] K900:
We currently have a lot of info from different sources. At the event it was said that there is no roadmap (yet) for older devices, the same has been confirmed by both HTC Russia and HTC Worldwide, so currently this is the most probable variant.
[Desire General] DroidBois:
What are your views on rooting and custom ROMs now Desire support has ceased?
[Desire General] -A-P-M-:
IMO Desire should get updated Sense. Why ? Because its still on sale and its strange that two phones from Desire's line got updated Sense and one phone in same line doesn't have. I expect Desire will get updated Sense. But I don't expect HTC will update our Desire with Gingerbread when it will be available.

Also display on Desire HD doesn't look nearly as good as Desire's. Also screen size on Desire is perfect for a phone. In a few months new phones will be available, with dual core processors and Gingerbread, I will wait for those.

Display comparison between Desire HD and Desire - display on Desire HD looks washed out compared to Desire.

http://www.engadget.com/photos/htc-desire-family-size-comparison/#3365190
[Desire General] GANJDROID:
How has Desire support ceased? :confused:

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire General] hamdir:
My wife wants a Z too, she fell in love the moment she saw it, the Z has the highest pixel density of the 3 since it has 252 ppi without the active matrix trick and the Desire classic has the best blacks and colors

As for the HD ts a gorgeous phone however the screen runs at 217ppi and seem to lack advanced IPS technology, did you notice in the official HD youtube video they say its SLCD? maybe what they showed in the event was a prototype?

to be honest the HD tempts me a lot especially with its new GPU and beautiful construction but the screen, size and weight keeps me satisfied with my Desire

the Z is 180grams vs HD 164grams vs Desire 135grams, yesterday i was using and i felt what i like the most about it is the feel and weight in my hand along with the screen

i also think the three of them are a Trio with different options, roughly speaking the Desire is a Z without the keyboard and so HTC should keep supporting the classic desire especially since its new in many markets plus popular
[Desire General] Lennyuk:
exactly what I was thinking.
[Desire General] DarkInovator:
From here on out is where the moding community will start to kick off on the Desire.

The new sense is only for the new HTC Desire HD and Z.

The thing is I'm impressed with the new Sense but the new hardware sux badly. Even if it has new looks and bigger display the CPU is the same or weaker on the Z. The ram might have been increased but I don't even use the 500MB I have in the old Desire. I was hoping for a 1.5 - 2 Ghz CPU.
[Desire General] Geezay:
Not a rare individual

I feel the same way. My HTC Desire (with AMOLED) for me is the perfect balance and the recently announced Desires don't move me to want to change. Would I want the updated Sense features and HTCSense.com functionality - absolutely. Would it be a deal breaker if I didn't get them - not at all!
[Desire General] Lothaen:
I am glad with the annoucements - if HD had a 1.5GHz then I'd feel it was a proper upgrade and as I have only had my Desire for about 2 months now I'd feel really bad that I spent nearly £400 on a phone that is out of date in 2 months - usually you get at least a year!

As they are all different phones, Desire, HD, Z, but all essentially the same in a way, I am hoping HTC do develop these all together and Desire original gets an update to be on par with HD and Z (probably in a few months after to encourage people to 'upgrade' or 'sidegrade' to the HD or Z models), and I'll be happy with the HTCSense.com upgrade - even if it doesn't use ALL features - if it uses some of them it'll still be an advantage....

if not then custom roms all the way - like I did with my HTC Touch HD - it seemed to work so much better with WM65!
[Desire General] interqd:
I think desire has the best spec of hardware against those two...

As u see..desire hd have a standard tft screen..and z have lower speed

Only one think worse is the new sense... But am sure rom makers here will make one for us haha.
[Desire General] chichoko:
Indeed the ROM community for the original Desire will take off if HTC announces it wont give us the new Sense. But i really hope we arent left out in the dark and become ROM flash addicts..again..

Lets make a petition for it.. and gather as many sigs as we can until HTC releases some official info.. If they dont give us the new Sense, then we make a run for it ;)
[Desire General] LBTaylor1984:
tbh the Desire is the perfect phone, after having a HD2 which was too big for one handed use, i'd never have a large screen phone like that again, it's just not practical. sometimes i'm on-site and holding my pad in one hand, and the phone in the other the amount of times the HD2 nearly ended up in 2 foot deep mud was a joke,

so for me the Desire HD is out purely on this reason.

as for the Z, wel yeah the qwerty keyboard is nice, but the phone is heavier and thicker. the desire mimicks the iphone on it's best feature, practicality! while improving significantly on OS.

if HTC drop the Desire, from a support aspect they'll be bloody sorry as i think it's getting even more popular now! three friends bought one (well three) last week. hardly a phone to stop support for at the moment. Either way it's a truely great phone.
[Desire General] Geeba:
Cant see me dumping my Desire for ether of them.... the HD is just waaay to big.. and fold out keyboards are not for me... awful things.

AMOLED, Fast, light, pocket size.... Desire! :D
[Desire General] nsx_23:
The normal Desire is like a Desire Classic, and the Z and HD compliment it rather well - Together they make a good Android range of offerings. As many have said, it'd be stupid for HTC to drop support for the original Desire.
[Desire General] leroy:
Neither of these phones is a replacement for the Desire, they are just new phones using the Desires good name to sell a few more.

HD2 spec phone with android i.e evo....Desire HD here.

Touch pro with android...Desire z

the only question is if they will give us the new sense officially or not
[Desire General] Svala88:
Sure the new devices seem great.

But i wouldnt wanna replace my desire any time soon;)
[Desire General] sudkcoce:
I only know that HTC has treated our beloved desires very well so far. We were the first non nexus Android to get froyo in a convenient ota update :-) and so on...

So, where exactly do some of you guys get the idea that this ( HTC attitude towards desire) will change so soon?

I am looking forward for any updates ;-)
[Desire General] K900:
Well, Adam and Neo are hacking on the new leaked ROM, waiting :)
[Desire General] godutch:
I'm really hoping htc will keep bringing us updates (including gingerbread and new sense) as this was my main reason for choosing the desire over the samsung galaxy s. If htc continues to show its support to existing costumers I am sure I will be a future costumer again too, else I guess my next phone will be an iphone because apple did show a lot of support in the past, and now with the new app policy for the app store there is less reason to choose android over iphone.
[Desire General] chichoko:
There is every reason to choose the Android against the iOS but we are going off topic in here :p

As for the new Sense.. lets hope HTC doesnt disappoint us this time..

Anyone has any kind of hands on for the new camera ui on the new Sense? Im eager to see the options and if they have improved the 720p recording...
[Desire General] Beppemi:
I think it will be ported soon, it's only question of time.

If s-off is already enable, maybe someone can get it soon and share with community...
[Desire General] MrUsta:
Read today's twitts from HTC Spain: it seems they confirm that the new Sense will be available for Desire and all HTC Froyo devices...

http://twitter.com/htc_es
[Desire General] benko286:
Yeah, that's the word I was waiting for :)
[Desire General] dexteral:
http://translate.googleusercontent....&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhhpvj4I0A3nXjjW5R6-WP4yHoJZUA
[Desire General] unknowmaster:
Cool. I hope it will come out soon..
[Desire General] DroidBois:
I'm still looking at custom ROMs.
[Desire General] hamdir:
this is translated from HTC spain don't know if they mean HTCsense.com

while this is translated from HTC italy http://twitter.com/HTCItalia
[Desire General] DroidBois:
Will the Sense be able to be backported to custom ROMs? I really want the DLNA features the most, and that Sense online thing looks awesome, although a baked in WaveSecure that is not wipable with factory reset would be just as awesome.
[Desire General] K900:
Probably yes.
[Desire General] hamdir:
I tried them both the only downgrade from amoled to slcd is the deep blacks, the SLCD is second best in terms of blacks, the viewing angles are a match, the brightness a match, colors are more accurate on SLCD and most importantly SLCD offers real 252dpi sharpness ie: 1 pixels lines are lines instead of doted lines on the amoled, believe me when you see it for yourself you will choose SLCD

the sharpness is comparable to the iphone 4
[Desire General] rafi300:
... Have any of you guys tried the colour calibration app in xda's nexus forum ?

I hv heard it actually tweaks our phones amoled screen to match the slcds colours .. And mk the colours sharper and evenly saturated .

Sent from my HTC LeeDroid 2.2 using my swyping thumb!
[Captivate General] bluetoothless:
In each of all four Captivate firmwares my incoming POP3 email server's settings for "delete email from server" change from my selection of "NEVER" to "when I delete from Inbox" randomly. Anyone else notice this?
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] camiot:
I have this problem using wired or wireless tether. My Eris will connect fine at first but the signal will go away (the 3g indicator goes away and the cellular signal cuts off and then back on). I don't think it happens using pdanet but I'd like wireless tether.

I have tried 6 different roms including froyo. I tried anetshare and it didn't work (I don't think it is updated anyway). I changed many of the settings off and then back on one at a time with no change. Trying to download anything seems to make it happen instantly, while just browsing might go on for several minutes. I thought it might be something verizon had done to detect if you are tethering but I doubt it.

Right now I am using xtrROM 4.2 and the wired tether is better but still cuts off. Wireless tether still drops off quickly upon starting downloads. I'm going to get the latest wireless tether for root users and check for updates for anetshare. I'll keep trying and hopefully one of us will figure it out.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pkopalek:
This is actually a problem that happens somewhere between your phone, and Verizon.

This happens with every ROM, everywhere, at random.

Sometimes it won't happen to me for a month at a time, sometimes it'll happen every night for weeks straight.

Reboot the phone. Cross your fingers. Next time it boots up, you might be fine for an hour or two. Might not be.

3g just disappears COMPLETELY at random, and removes any connections you have. It's REALLY annoying.

Knock on wood, but it hasn't happened to me in at least a week. I'm on xtrSense 3.1.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crax0r:
I've never had that problem before. Try updating your radio.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] camiot:
I tried more updated ROMs and 3 different radios. Still not working. Right now I'm on nonsensikal froyo 2.2 with radio 2.42.01.04.27. I'm going to update via *228 to see if that makes a difference. I can't see what rebooting would do to change the wireless connection.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] camiot:
Still Losing Connection

Tried some of the new ROMs and 3 different radios. Here is where I am now:

KaosFroyo V35

Kernal Version 2.6.29-DecaFuctCFS-dirty-53d732ab

Baseband Version 2.42.01.04.27 (is this the latest?)

Every time it is the same. I can connect for a while but it seems the longer I'm connected, or if I start a download, I lose my connection (cellular). Sometimes it comes back but not for very long.

PdaNet v2.45 seems to work the longest but sometimes I get a blue screen of death with it.

Wireless Tether Version 2.0.5-pre9 loses connection (cellular) within minutes.

Wired Tether Version 1.4 loses connection (cellular) within minutes.

The built in USB tethering loses connection (cellular) within minutes.

I must be doing something wrong since I can't find anyone that is having this problem anywhere else in the forums. Any help is greatly appreciated!
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sydtrakked:
im having the same problem... tried it on CynoTazz 6.0 and xtrROM4.5

there's no way heat could cause this is there?

or maybe verizon just found a way to throttle heavy data usage?
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ma42091:
I haven't tried wireless tethering on the replacement phone I got a a few weeks ago, but I remember having the same problems 3G just going away randomly on my old phone (on KaosFroyo) I'll give it a try tomorrow. As for wired tethering, I'm using EasyTether and my 3G never goes away. I noticed that if I do not let EasyThether stay on the foreground my connection drops sooner or later (3G stays on however), I think that may have something do with AutoKiller.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] knoxx:
I'm having the same problem.. it'll disconnect upon using uTorrent while Im downloading a file.. I think it has to do with the app itself because a couple versions ago, I was downloading shows like crazy with little or no interruption. But when I just simply browse the interweb, it never and I mean never disconnects. It also may have to do with Verizon throttling usage
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crax0r:
Do you have JuiceDefender installed? Because that is one of the main problems. I would also try updating your radio.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] roirraW "edor" ehT:
I use xtrSENSE v4.6 and have always had problems with PDANet and Wired Tethering eventually the 3G dropping. Wired Tethering seemed to work at noticeably faster speeds than PDANet. I used Wireless Tethering extensively recently when reinstalling Windows on a neighbor's Netbook and it never dropped the 3G connection once; through all the Microsoft Updates and such.

I can confirm that occasionally rebooting helps make Wired Tethering work better, and also it seems to work faster and drop less often in the middle of the night. Sometimes Tethering would outright stop working completely (never actually make a connection) and then a reboot did definitely do the trick.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] haganme:
I am also having this problem. It was fine with PDAnet before i rooted and swapped rom's. now I have the same intermittent 3g during wireless tether. I also experience a period late one night around 4am where i was able to watch a full 30min show on hulu with no problems. I'd like to see this resolved. I'm still looking around the forum to see if it's been answered somewhere else...
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrObvious:
I was getting bad 3G and I called Verizon and had them do a trouble ticket. My wife's Ally was doing the same thing so I knew it was the network in the area. They did a trouble ticket and it was fixed a few days later. So my advice is to call tech support and report spotty 3G, and make sure that you are talking to tech support and not customer service because I have had CS agents try to do tech support and they always suggest trying to wipe the phone and crap and don't usually know what they are talking about.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] haganme:
I'm in the process of setting up a yx545 signal booster at my house. I've always had pretty low signal since i switched to verizon, so i'm hoping that the booster will fix my problems. My initial installation didn't separate the two antennas properly and so the amp was turning itself down. I'm going to purchase a high-gain outside antenna next and raise it up 10-15 feet on pvc. If the tether problems are solved as a result, i will post it...
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xllxjustinxllx:
We have been having this problem for a long time now. Mine started back in the old days of evil eris 1.0. I believe it is an actual hardware issue with the phone. No matter what rom or radio I use i get horrible signal (never more than 2 bars) and my data connection randomly drops all the time. And its not just my area of the country. I am in the military and have traveled all over the country in the last year and never have i seen more than -80 db.

The first time i took apart my eris i noticed 2 U.fl connectors on the back of the main board. These connectors are what you connect an external antenna to on a computer or any other peice of wireless made these days. So i took a u.fl pigtail and fabricated two 800 mhz antennas and connected them to these connectors. After playing around a bit i finally got a stable signal level of about -70DB to commence my testing. I tested every tethering program, radio and method of tethering and still nothing gave me a consistent connection. So that rules out a bad signal level causing the problems.

It could be two things

1. Our phones radio sucks and drops packets at 3G frequencies thus forcing the phone to drop back to the 1x frequency.

I dont know how the architecture on the phone is designed or what specific frequencies verizon uses in my area but the internal antenna is made for one specific band of frequencies. If the antenna was designed to work the best for 800 mhz and still worked "good enough" for the 1800 mhz band when the phone was developed it could be a manufacturer flaw.

Or i could be wrong and the 2 antennas are actually two separate frequencies. Somebody with more knowledge of the phone could help me here.

2. Verizon has found a way to throttle our data usage. I dont believe it is this one because i tethered to a friends droid incredible last week and had blazing speeds for over an hour on verizon.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrObvious:
My Eris has been doing good. I'm on PRL 36060 I think (it's a 36000 series PRL) and had a problem but I called tech support and had them fix a local tower through a trouble ticket since it affected my wife's LG Ally also. I had them fix it and my Rev. A EVDO speeds have been great. You could have a bad phone and maybe a new handset under warranty may not be a bad idea.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] haganme:
I am very interested in how you managed to get a pigtail hooked into the back of the eris. I looked around before, and could not find any info on the connector. could you post a picture of your pigtail? did you make it or buy it? a pic of the phone with pigtail with antenna(s) would also be great. Thanks

As i said in an earlier post, I have a Wi-Ex 545 at home now, but it would be very useful to me to have a pigtail to use while pointing the antenna.

also, I am still having 3G dropping while wireless tethering.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pkopalek:
I've had 3g randomly cycle off on every Eris I've ever had. Every day.

I don't buy internet at home, I just tether, so I notice.

EVERY rom and radio I've ever had, ever. Ever. I've had 4 eris's.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] settlethestorm:
I've had this happen on two Eris', in the same household, since I got them Christmas 09. Could any of you please explain this "trouble ticket" and how id go about doing that with tech support? One side note, also- my 3g is spotty and drops during WiFi tether (i also don't pay for internet at my house, so I notice big time), BUT when I use 3g to download torrents on my phone with AndTorrent, its almost flawless, downloads up to 2.14mbps, and never drops/stops/ or switches to 1x. Weird huh? And normally I get terrible 3g service in a small section of southeastern Connecticut that technically isn't covered in Verizons 3g map. So is it safe to say maybe these problems have something to do purely with the wired/wireless tether apps, maybe something with the SU access? I have no idea at all, just trying to throw some ideas around :-P
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] roirraW "edor" ehT:
I don't really have anything constructive to offer regarding this. From August until just the other day, my phone was my only internet, too, so I have lots of experience with tethering in all sorts of ways as well. I just wanted to say that I didn't have any luck at all using any torrent program on the Android without my 3G shutting down just like it does while heavy tethering. I'm very sure I tried AndTorrent among the others because it sounded like one of the most recommended.

Maybe I'll try it again sometime just to see what happens. What ROM do you use AndTorrent on, again?