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[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] EarlZ:
This might be hard to swallow for some but even if the same device they are not all made equally, there are too many internal revisions on the SGS that we dont know thats why some are reporting great performance while others are reporting lag..

On my phone theres no single firmware that lagged even the old JM1 or the stock asian firmware, on my friends phone some firmware lag LOT
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] bilboa1:
i must say the jm8+voodoo performs a lot better for me too ;)

i mean by that, jm+voodoo is what the phone should be stock. it's fast, no lag, enjoyable, good battery life, gps mostly works (its not perfect)

anything that is putting the bar lower than jm8+voodoo = bad

i am under the impression that samsung has a couple of part time coders fixing stuff once the phone is released instead of having a consistent dev team. would explain why we don't get the fixes that are to be found in the galaxy tab like reclaiming memory...
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] suomaf:
Hey guys,

Seems some people are very passionate about how much samsung sucks, but I got to say, I like my galaxy s. I did my research going in, and I knew about the gps problems and the lag and what not and I still love this phone. I was a iphone user before and I liked how everything just works, but honestly I am also a geek, I like playing around with the phone. *shrug* I paid money for this thing, I made a commitment to it and I stick with it. It does not seem that Samsung is not trying or they are not releasing stuff for us to play with... Honestly if the phone was perfect in all respect, I for one might get a little disappointed, nothing left to play with :D

A side note about the gps, I seem to have one of those that work fairly well when I am traveling around in Brunei. But recently I flew to singapore, and I saw for the first time the bouncing around in google maps. It might really depend on where you are. Having said that, you cannot compare it with a 3GS which my wife has.. but then again thats a whole different story..
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] nCoder:
SGS is indeed the greatest phone I ever had - Even with this small glitches, I wouldn't trade it for any other phone.

Issues Report:

BUG - FM Radio plays MONO (chip has stereo capabilities)

BUG - Mail Client

ISSUE - GPS accuracy could be better.

ISSUE - Optimizations required in particular to I/O performance

ISSUE - Memory management could be optimized
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] darkoroje:
How many times does it have to be said that the problem with GPS is not the initial lock but that it loses lock during car navigation or is not precise.

And yes, there is considerable lag compared to other phones. Just install the lag fix from the market and you will see how much faster the phone will be.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] darkoroje:
I don't think there is hardware difference between identical model phones. However, there is a difference in user expectations or experience. If you never had a smartphone before, or had an old one with much inferior hardware, Galaxy will look good. However if you are coming from Nexus One or Desire, or, dare I say it, from an iPhone 3GS or 4 Galaxy looks quite bad. I have never had to put so much work in just to get the phone to perform reasonably well. And despite all my efforts the GPS is still substandard and simply not reliable enough for car navigation.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] nandihno:
guys..really..it amazes me that some ppl are finding issues with jmh.

For me is performing excellent...all the apps appear so quick, the gallary with my many photos performs excellent.

going on websites is excellent it loads content very quick...

as a side i recommend putting the plugging settings in 'demand' mode so that you choose when and what you want flash to run on.

its a 10 fold improvement over jpc.

now why..some ppl are finding jph slower?? is beyond me..but just to say that i came from jpc then clean and reseted my settings upgraded via Kies (using host hack) and then rooted.

quadrant i get is 983 w/o lag fix..and seriously not thinking of lag fix as i heard it can mess up ur map.

also yes compas is not the greatest...so sometimes i do the symbol 8 calibration.

anyways jmh is great..hoping is the final release cuz dont want to re-install my apps!

BTW no need for eris market for the first time! :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] EarlZ:
On my own personal phone I came from a Nokia 5800 BUT i was able to use the Iphone 3GS for a 2 weeks, 1 month on the N1 but no tweaking or what so ever and 5 days with a HTC desire.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Roy Ngan:
Depends how you use SGS, it's a smartphone, smartphone evolved from PDA, Email and calendar are very crucial when it comes to Corporate world.

In fact, Exchange integration is one of the key function I look at when I decide to jump ship from Nokia E71 to android. Sad to tell that so far none of the Android phone can beat Nokia E71 Exchange integration. I believe iPhone did a better job on Exchange compare with Android
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Roy Ngan:
+1, SGS is a good phone
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Ancient_One:
Get a grip on yourselves. These are beta releases.

Since buying my SGS I have seen 11 leaked firmware releases. All have been better then the previous leaked release in one way or another.

I'm happy with my SGS. Never had an issue flashing, downloading or using. No lag what so ever. Maybe it's just me and I'm just overly happy with my experience with this phone. It's been a great experience in comparison to my Jailbroken iPhone 3GS which I sold 1 month after buying. They are such a dumbed down device it's not funny.

I say keep up the good work Samsung. Your moving in the right direction. Can't wait for the offical release of Froyo.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] spyrale:
i come from an hd2 and froyo was amazing on that phone, even if it wasn't intented to work with android. imho a good firmware must perform well for EVERYBODY, ex. JM8 + Voodoo lagfix is a good firmware (thanks to supercurio), JPH, JPC are **** firmwares that works fine only for few people, probably because this people have a different use from the majority or just don't use features or apps that are bugged. yes, i think galaxy s is a very good phone, hardware speaking, but it's like having a ferrari without tires, good to see, useless to use. seriously, i just don't understand people that would be happy if jph is the final froyo release...even if this firmware works fine for you...how can you not be mad about the costant lack of ram? gps inaccuracy? lag problem (after you installed all your apps, not with a fresh flash)? boh...

sorry for my bad english! :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Roy Ngan:
if it's that simple and straight forward, The CynogenMod dudes will not spent so much time to compile and release nightly build firmware for HTC Desire! Bear in mind that HTC Desire and Nexus One having very similar hardware.

and the story I hear from HTC Desire owner, there are still unfixed bugs, he will need to reboot his phone once everyday to keep it running.

Nexus One is fast? Yes from the Linpack number (45+ on Froyo). But when I play with my friend's N1, it's soo much slower than my SGS with OCLF.

My Experience with N1 is taht there are hiccups and in-perfect application installed.

That lack of SWYPE of N1 and HTC Desire(only beta available, and only last for 3 months?) stopping me consider that hardware.

but of course, different ppl has different needs. There is no perfect phone out there, there is only "most suitable" phone for you.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] EarlZ:
I can tell that the JM8 is very good problem is that there are zombie app downloads on it.. and lately heres what I did.. flashed the phone with repartition to PIT803.. removed batery.. flashed to 512 with repart and removed battery reflashed with 512 and repart + JM8.. phone still performs a zombie download on the apps.. already did several factory wipes/clear caches in between.

I dunno why JM8 acts this way on my end.. if you have ANY recommendations THAT i can try I would be more than happy enough to do so..
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Stefanauss:
I have a question: this exchange bug many of you are talking about, it is already present in Eclar or it was introduced in FroYo leaks?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Ferdimage:
hmm judging from the responses, it looks like Samsung is gonna feed us a final overdue spunk frozen yogurt next week,

well if M8 is the last 2.1 ill stick with this and voodoo all the way.. most stable and speedy combo yet..
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] rdy2go:
+1

However if you need Exchange email, stay away from Froyo on current SGS devices.

HTC Desire was sooooooooo much better in this area...
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] baldric:
only bug i have found is email related and it is that emails dont delete from an IMAP account.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] jps1974:
The only Eclair builds I used were JF3 and JM1, neither of which had the reply-with-quote bug. I experienced this bug with both JPC and JPH (as well as the one where not all contacts are downloaded from Exchange).
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] rdy2go:
+1 All the Froyo builds so far have this annoying bug (reply with quote is not working)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] dutchcow:
Alright after a few hours I'm getting FC's all over the place, did a full factory reset and reflash and it happens again, I'm reverting back to JM8 + Voodoo until there is a proper Froyo from Samsung, this thing better not be final.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] tonyjansen:
Happy customer

**********
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] ivanchin99:
Possibly.. Remember the Samsung 226BW Lcd monitor a few years back? It was so popular the demand was waay higher than the supply. So Samsung had to outsource the panel to different company. Results are panel of different quality, some like Panel A, Panel C which are inferior to Panel S which Samsung made themselves.. just saying
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] dreamtheater39:
after a day of use, the build is starting to look laggy :( basic navigation around the device like pulling up a contact page, dialing lags many times. free ram available also starts to drop...and using any task killer to free up ram doesnt reclaim everything back :(

ive tied up my gmail account, and i cant send mails!!! the mails are lost in space....so, bloody hell....once again i have to roll back to 2.1 :(

this is getting a little tiring now :(

this better not be the final froyo....that would be a really sad disappointment

EDIT: Another irritating lag issue is when you are typing! click on a few letters....its busy "thinking" for a second or two...and then it types out all the stuff....extremely annoying
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Donald Nice:
So here are my impressions of JPH with german SGS from o2, wiped, rooted and fixed with OCLF.

I like:

- Flash is fully supported so watching episodes of southpark from southpark.de is great!

- It feels smoother than the 2.1 firmwares without lagfix.

- The new keyboard is great!

- Vibrates shortly when phone is powered of.

I dislike:

- It is slower than the JM7 with OCLF! Even much slower

- Flash is great but disturbing because of much more adds.

- Also when i set the plugins to "on demand" browsing is not as fast as on JM7

- Not all Samsung apps are available!

- SWype IS WRiting THe FIrst TWo LEtters UPppercase instead of only the first.

- When taking a phone call, the status bar is turning to an ugly green.

- No possibilty to kill f.e. the browser (Its a feature, not a bug!)

- There are lags.. even mith oclf, and they are getting more and more with longer time of usage.

So thats it for me... I will go back to JM7 or JM8. I think there are many good and bad things missing, but these are my personal impressions of the JPH!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] seraphine:
I really am disappointed that i can't respond to calendar invitations with this phone. Means i need my laptop for that one operation!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] rdy2go:
No problems with this feature using HTC Sense on Desire for instance...

This ROM made me thinking of going back to Desire :))
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] :
In JPC Move apps to SD is an app in the app drawer. Is it not there in JPH ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] ewok666:
No need for me to wake up from anything. I'm just saying it the way it is. JPH is still way too slow for a Froyo release. Yes, it's only beta but seriously.....what's going to happen in a week????

My Milestone was faster than this!

I restored about 150 apps. Mostly smaller tools and games but anyway. There IS lag in this build and even with a speed fix it is still slow.

What's the point of Froyo of it's not faster? Yes, Flash is nice but that's not all is it?

Back to JM8 for now.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] doronkdoron:
+1 I super agree with you. Even with lagfix, the phone starts to lag when the available ram drops bellow 70MB (no active applications on background). If we had the full 512MB as promised, This won't be happening!:mad:

any chance to solve this situation?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] zenkinz:
actually froyo fix one exchange calendar sync issue specifically there's a bug in eclair on handling recurrence appointments sync.

I can live with workaround on the email reply in froyo (just do not reply with quote text, kind of silly), but I don't have workaround in eclair on the reoccurence appts which lead me with wrong appointmet outlook and either miss an appointment or attending a cancelled event.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] darkoroje:
It is in Applications / Manage Applications and then click on the application you want to move. There is a new "Move to SD" button - however, it is disabled for most applications since it has to be explicitly enabled for each application in its manifest. Alternatively you can use adb to set PMINSTALLMODE to 2 and then any application can be moved.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Rawat:
I don't understand why everyone wants app2sd for SGS. With 2GB of ROM and over 100 apps installed, I've used around 400mb. Have people managed to use up all 2gb?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] catanzaro27:
I have a question for all you froyo users :) have any of you recorded a video with the new system? I'm just wondering if the video is now recorded in .mp4 format or is still the .3gp one. Thanx.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] iuzar:
I don't know if it was already posted but with JPH I have problems with my phone (intl SGS) recognising the SIM. Every once in a while, when I restart the phone, looks like there is no SIM in the phone. If I restart again, everythings is ok...

Could this be a feature and not a bug? :P

And again the laaaaaaag :D but we are already used to it
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] freshko:
Has anyone problem with Gmail Account....

Everytime I restart the phone, the gmail account is deleted and I have to create it again.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] cyberz:
Hi,

have just tryed, now record in .MP4 :)

My impression:

all work fine.

JM7 was a bit more fast in Quadrant benchmark. Now with JPH score is 1977~2032, score with JM7 was 2307. Both rom with the same CLagFix beta 2-3 by RyanZa.

The lock screen, only it, show the date in English, not in Italian.

However, it is fast and fluid with and without ClagFix. Better with CLagFix ;)

3G/HSDPA work fine, Gmail, Yahoo Mail, sms, phone, wifi ..all work fine for now. :)

Regards
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] YellowGTO:
Wow. Beta rom, seriously people. You have no idea how Samsungs dev department is setup. Obviously they are working on 2.1 and 2.2 at the same time. What makes you think they haven't split development between a few deparments? The guy who is leaking these roms might be the guy who works on the radio, while the guy who is working on the file system isn't leaking his roms. It is completely feasible to have task split up to feasible devs. IE. Samsung devs wrote an unoptimized version of 2.2 for testing. Dev A is working on GPS, Dev B is working on file system, and Dev C is working on UI. Just because Dev C releases a leak doesn't mean that its been updated with the latest work that Dev A and Dev B have done. Give it some time. Once they release a public build, then grab your pitchforks.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Roy Ngan:
looks like a hardware problem for me, either your sim card surface is dirty (use your cloth to give it a gentle wipe) or your need to replace either the sim card or the phone
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Roy Ngan:
at one point, you will need to do the integration test, definitely not 5 days before the global rollout
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Roy Ngan:
damn, the limitation is still there!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] dmulligan:
YellowGTO: I certainly hope that someone has started integration testing by now! If the firmware its being developed in separate modules like you suggest without a common repository or branch then there are likely going to be problems when it is ask brought together.

However you are correct that we don't know how they are working on it not if what we are getting in these leaked roms.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] YellowGTO:
And you know for a fact they have not hit a snag and its still rolling out in 5 days? Or that the guy is who is leaking these roms isn't just fiddeling with something on the side in an older version before its rolled out?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] gogibyte:
Anyone ...

i try to flash update.zip in recovery ... but i get this:

"Signature verification failed"

what's wrong? :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] iuzar:
Thanks mate for the advice...still, I had no problems like this while using XXJP3 or XXJPC
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] bilboa1:
i'd like to share the hope of some here, but unfortunately this rom is most likely the final rom indeed or close to what we will actually get :(

eventually they might just cancel the release and tell us froyo is coming end of october.. might even be the best news, if they release as it is now, it might just never get fixed
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] siddspain:
When in contacts, the letters on the right skip a few letters. I hate that.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] OrionTC:
remember that even the nexus one had multiple froyo builds release, same with the droid too i believe. i know this is samsung and the software department is questionable but there is always a chance they will release updated froyo roms when the bugs are reported and fixed.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Aery:
You cant flash self-signed update.zip's from 3e Recovery. Version 3e of Recovery checks the Signature of the zip. 2e does not!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] catanzaro27:
Thanx man, god bless you.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] dnsp:
Overall 2D performance is way worst. Everywhere, browser, UI, scroll, Touchwiz, LauncherPro, ADW. It stutters every time. Not silk smooth as Eclair and miles away from the Iphone.

Those who report otherwise are: or lying or are clueless about what is fluidity.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] evil-doer:
i cant believe we are over 3 months into the life of this phone and none of the major problems are fixed yet. and 2.2 is just an extremely ****ty port that is more unstable than the shipping firmware. i HOPE 2.2 does not come out this month. get the **** fixed first then release.

the more i read about all the problems in this current build the more i think its MONTHS away from completion. and to the guy suggesting that these beta builds are working on one thing at a time. MANY of these betas are SHIPPING FIRMWARES in various countries. i dont think any of the 2.2s but the 2.1s most definitely.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] darkoroje:
I have hard time believing that a lone software engineer in one department is leaking a version on this own. It is obvious that Samsung is leaking these versions on purpose to have their users perform beta testing. If that wasn't the case XDA developers would be hit in record time with cease & desist orders and all firmware downloads would disappear.

Secondly, while individual teams work on parts of software (such as GPS), it is common practice to perform integration & testing at least once a week, especially when this close to release.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] dnsp:
This *IS* the final version. *NOT* beta.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] azazin:
How are you so sure?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Lord Style:
Why total ram is only 304MB?

Hardware bug?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] dnsp:
According to Richthofen and SamFirmware this is the final official version. Also Kies is updating, Samsung Repair Centers are already flashing with this firmware. I think it's enough to convince.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] matty___:
If that is what they will release then this will def. Be the last phone I will ever buy from samsung ever again.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] dakiz71:
yes, wondering about the same thing. Was it supposed to be totally shown on froyo? Galaxy Tab shows 512Mb of ram and has froyo onboard. IMHO, this is maybe the most accurate evidence of these leaks being just W.I.P.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] opica:
Then why wouldn't they already released it officially if this is the final version?

I'm still getting a 'no go' through Kies.

And Samsung service centers are flashing SGS's with almost all unofficial versions (if you had any problems, they've just flashed it to newer version - probably the latest that was available at that time, and that's that for them).

regards
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] huxflux2003:
Kies is not really updating to Froyo. We used a custom entry to redirect the version checking to a xda members private server. Also Samwirware says:

"Remember this is still a beta version!"

As for the repair shops. I do not believe it. They may have it, and even flash it to some phones, but that is far from proof that it is official. If I dont see it in Kies without absolutely any hack/tweak/crack/funny thing, its not official.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] tameracingdriver:
I totally agree. I think that maybe towards the end of my current 18 month contract, *perhaps* the problems may be sorted, but its just as likely to fixed by communities on the internet, like this, than it is to be fixed by samdung.

Personally I am less than impressed with the product. With all of the problems it has, how did it manage 4 / 5 stars in most reviews? The last two products I bought from these have been badly built, and had crap software ruining the product. They seem able to release good hardware, but the software always lets it down.

If it wasn't for the fact I'd felt like I'd chucked away my money, I'd probably sell this phone, and if it wasn't for the fact it DOES have a good screen, and is nice to use as a result, then I'd probably sell it anyway. But there are so many issues with this phone, and AFAICT, there are no proper fixes yet, other than those made by members of the community.

I strongly suspect that by the time this phone is as good as it SHOULD have been in the first place, most people will be moving on anyway.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Lord Style:
Galaxy tab show 385MB of ram.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] acexii:
just OCLF-ed my SGS running JPH. got a quadrant score of 1871. let's see if the user interface really improves.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] huxflux2003:
By the way the compass issue is fixed if you calibrate properly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP3d00Hr14o
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] bilboa1:
reviewers have usually about zero technical insight. ive seen no review saying the phone was using solely RFS. not getting started on GPS. the phone works ok for the 24h they use it, = copy the PR document and write some overally opinion. sad but true.

they're also often lazy and doing for fun which doesn't help when you look for serious reviews :cool: