yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Vibrant General] E Double:
Well, I've been ready to sell it. Question is, are you ready to buy it for this "good chunk 'o money" You think it will get?

And why is it irrational to expect a product to work AS ADVERTISED on release day? If the product isn't ready, then it shouldn't be released until it is. They wouldn't sell me the damn phone were my money "not ready" the day I ordered the bloody thing. T-mo didn't knock 20% off the price because it was half baked, so I can damn sure expect a $500 phone to work as advertised.

Perhaps the problem is there aren't enough people complaining.

There are entirely too many folks out there who are cool with getting beat on a deal. And this is indeed a contract, one for a material good that was advertised as doing A,B and C. The unwritten contract was between seller and buyer; Seller has Item A which does "these things". Buyer is looking for an item which does these things. An exchange is made, money for goods. If the goods or the money isn't up to snuff then there is indeed a breach of the contract.

The only reason why anybody purchased this phone was because of the feature set it was supposed to come with. And if those features are absent, then its a deal breaker.

I work hard for my money, so you can best believe I'm going to be pissed off when I get beat for it, especially from a supposedly above board manufacturer. This isn't cousin Re Re's cell phones and Plumbing, this is a major, world wide multi billion dollar manufacturer, who should know better than put out half assed garbage. Perhaps they need to fire a few MFs over there so they cease to push rubbish out.

I don't need to be patient, all I need to do is show up with my money and be able to get a product that works as advertised. Indeed, you rather need to tell these manufacturers to be "patient" and not rush **** out before its ready for primetime.
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
Before I came to T-Mo, I sued AT&T and got out of my contract for free because of this "false advertisement" (saved me a lot of money). I'm about ready to do the same to T-Mo.

And no, I'm not lying. I even sold the AT&T phome on eBay and came out way ahead.
[Vibrant General] KerryG:
I agree, everyone SHOULD be complaining, buy complain to TMO and Samsung, complaining in a forum that isn't visited by them does no good. They have twitter and facebook accounts, constantly send requests there, there are TMO and Samsung forums, complain there. It only helps if you complain where they are listening.
[Vibrant General] Digital_Warrior:
What are there Facebook and Twitter accountd. Links please.
[Vibrant General] nguyenmd:
I've been saying...Tmobile and Samsung are total BS on updates, especially on samsung phones (past experiences on Behold 2). When it comes enjoy it, don't waste your time waiting for it. And don't call Tmobile CS also, they don't know s..t!
[Vibrant General] KerryG:
http://twitter.com/Samsungtweets

http://twitter.com/SamsungMobileUS

http://twitter.com/Samsungservice

http://twitter.com/SamsungCarla

I suggest everyone pummel them for an answer
[Vibrant General] mystycs:
Here we go again lol
[Vibrant General] KerryG:
If you want to complain, then complain but do it to the right people. Complaining here does nothing but allow someone to vent for the sake of venting. Complaining directly to Samsung is the right way to go about things. If 1 person complains to them, why should they fix anything. If 500 do publicly, then the game changes.
[Vibrant General] KerryG:
SamsungCarla

No ETA yet. Sorry.

SamsungService

Kerry, I understand your frustration. Unfortunately, I don't have additional details yet. I'll let you know once i do. ^Leah
[Vibrant General] lrobles787:
You said... you work for T-Mobile but still haven't yet receive the GPS updated.
[Vibrant General] Emama:
If u lied, i would say f u

If not, then pass my word to tmo or Samsung whereever u want
[Vibrant General] allen099:
I LOVE your response. This is perfect and oh so true. In the tech space, it appears to be completely normal to release a product that's not fully complete, and then release updates throughout the coming weeks/months to finish it up. This isn't such a good business plan when it comes to phones as it appears, especially those that are "skinned" with these various UI's. It's also irresponsible for a company to acknowledge an issue 2 months ago (GPS) and then remain mum on scheduled updates and such. It's not fair to the user and in the end, people just won't buy Samsung phones. People ask me for tech advice daily and while the general audience may not pay attention to issues like this, I do and won't recommend the company.
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
It would be irresponsible to give out a "schedule" - of which are often wrong and have various delays. For someone so techy you should know that.

Send your complaints to HTC, Motorola and Samsung. They all operate the same ****ing way
[Vibrant General] lqaddict:
Well, I remember when the announcement came from T-Mo that Vibrant release date was July 21st, 2010, and it was released earlier on 15th - someone got a bonus for pushing the timelines, it is time to give it back though.
[Vibrant General] Blown 89:
There's nothing irrational about expecting a product to work. The tech industry is one of few industries that gets away with this and that isn't right.
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
There is a reason why your rep or whoever told you not to leak this information. Delays and push backs. We will know when the T-Mobile Vibrant update comes. Either someone that sees it in Streamline will leak it out or it will start to get pushed to phones with no notice like the Epic and Captivate. Until then save your leaked dates because they're a disappointment.
[Vibrant General] Dragoth12:
While I agree with this statement in the respect that specific dates are usually a bad idea for anything tech related, I don't believe a company should stay quiet about it. A simple update of: "We are working on a solution to the problem and will get a fix put out as soon as we have a stable solution, unfortunately, we are unable to give a date for the fix at this time but will keep the community updated if there are any changes".

Would be enough to placate most of the masses and would let customers know we aren't being ignored.
[Vibrant General] MMcCraryNJ:
If we had it your way, tech companies would never release products, or they would release new tech with outdated technology, if that makes any sense. They would also be a hell of a lot more money. The process of finding and removing every single last bug in a software or hardware environment is very costly and time-consuming. Frankly, no tech company does this, not even the "all-mighty" Apple. If they did, they would be unable to compete in the market.

And when I said irrational, I meant all of the people endlessly complaining in every single thread that pops up here, which is way too many IMO. Also in my experience, there are two things wrong with this device: GPS, and occasional lag. Both are being fixed. When? Who knows.

Point is, you had either 14 or 30 days to figure out what was wrong, and if those features were so important to you, you had the option of returning the phone and nullifying your contract. Nobody, not T-Mobile nor Samsung, "stuck" you with anything.
[Droid Eris Android Development] paperweight:
I am wondering if anyone can shed some light on the

ro.cdma...etc= ..... settings in the build.prop - I am on verizon network and am wondering what the settings do exactly and what values should be in there ???

Thanks for the ideas
[Droid Eris Android Development] vinylfreak89:
relevant parts are:

ro.telephony.default_network=4

ro.cdma.home.operator.numeric=310012

ro.cdma.home.operator.alpha=Verizon

ro.cdma.homesystem=128,64

ro.cdma.data_retry_config=default_randomization=960000,960000,960000,960000,960000

ro.com.google.clientidbase=android-verizon
[Droid Eris Android Development] paperweight:
Thanks

Thanks For the help
[Droid Eris Android Development] vinylfreak89:
np...forgot to mention ro.product.brand=verizon
[Droid Eris Android Development] 5thAgent:
Is it just me or is that stray space in the 960000s not supposed to be there?
[Droid Eris Android Development] vinylfreak89:
im honestly not sure about that... (checks RUU/OTA)
[Droid Eris Android Development] vinylfreak89:
weird... that space isn't really there... just the way it shows up on XDA... when i go to edit the paost there's no space
[Droid Eris Android Development] afextwin:
stray space, not showing up when quoting either.

default_network=4 is a nice setting to implement when flashing from vzw contract to vzw mvno.
[Desire General] 42turkeys:
I prepared for this eventuality, so here are all the RUUs that were on http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Bravo as of the 9th of July :D

http://www.filefactory.com/f/a71dcdf6dd54d2f6/
[Desire General] -Mr. X-:
Shipped roms will be back very soon no worries. ;)
[EVO 4G General] mikeDCMDVA:
Because...

I want to drop them and sell my Evo.

I can't deal with the battery life on this phone anymore, no matter which ROM I use, and how much I tweak SetCPU and/or JuiceDefender...

It's a great phone, but I am going to settle for a little less but allow my phone to last more than 1.5 days (at best, with minimal usage)

If somebody could let me know I would appreciate it dearly..thank you

Mike
[EVO 4G General] nebenezer:
I have no idea when they will change their TOS again but I'll gladly give you $100 for your evo..
[EVO 4G General] Bielinsk:
Who could possibly know if/when Sprint would change their TOS?

Battery life is great on the Evo. I charge my phone every 35 hours or so.
[EVO 4G General] clamknuckle:
Battery life isn't great on the Evo, don't be that guy.

But, any modern smartphone isn't going to last 1.5 days with heavy usage, except maybe a blackberry.

If your only complaint is battery life, sell your evo and buy a bold or something.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Battery life is the same across all smart phones, not sprint and their last change was earlier this year, you won't c one anytime soon. Get a bb

Sent from my Evo beeesshh
[EVO 4G General] mikeDCMDVA:
Ha, I'm gonna get that Nokia N8.

http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=2725

And I didn't expect to get flamed in this thread, so quit acting tough on the internet
[EVO 4G General] nebenezer:
35 hours??

You do know your EVO has internet capabilities.. right? (you must not be using them if you're getting 35 hours! ;))

But yeah, I use the crap out of my phone and I average 20 - 24 hours..
[EVO 4G General] Pao23:
I have never heard someone complain about a smart phone only lasting a day and a half. You seriously can't charge while you sleep?

I mean get any phone you want, I could care less, but man, you are strange.
[EVO 4G General] tomp517:
What Rom are you using?
[EVO 4G General] nebenezer:
Who's flaming you? Looks like everyone is being pretty civilized so far.. man if you think this is flaming you should look up the "WTF WIFI?!?!" thread, or the "is CM6 overrated?" thread, although I think the second one got deleted already.

CM6 Final with the kernel that comes with it.
[EVO 4G General] Pao23:
It's not final, it's 'stable' ;)

There would be a very disappointed community if CM became 'final'
[EVO 4G General] Bielinsk:
Fresh 3.2.0 with the standard kernel.

This was with some general facebook, browsing, texting, talking etc. I would say moderate to heavy use. 7 hours of use out of a single charge is pretty damn stellar I would say.
[EVO 4G General] nebenezer:
Actually, it is final..

It's CM6.0.0 final. The next release will be (presumably) 6.0.1
[EVO 4G General] nebenezer:
ok, that's impressive.. 29 on, 7 awake.. nice :)

I'm still curious if you realize your phone connects to the internet though.. (and I hope you have a sense of humor)
[EVO 4G General] neodorian:
I'm not aware of any modern smart phone with a fast processor, touch screen, multiple wireless radios, etc. that can last through a day of heavy use. Not iPhone, Evo, Galaxy, etc. Like any mobile device, you learn to manage power. When I am out and about on my laptop and not using wifi, I turn it off. I lower the screen brightness, etc. When I need to use it, I turn it on. Leaving everything and anything turned on is like leaving all the lights on in your house while staying in a single room at a time--wasteful of power.

I keep a charger by my bedside and one at my desk. I charge my phone overnight and with regular use (checking emails and texts as they come in, maybe some light web browsing on the can, etc) I am usually around 40-50% when I get home after work. If I am using it a lot or end up someplace with poor reception like a basement or a control room that is surrounded by ducts and wiring, I will either turn off data or use the charger at my desk to top off at some point during the day.

I have yet to have any problems with this since it's a workflow that evolved from my personal uses and needs. Yours may be different. Maybe you drive a lot and use GPS or music streaming. If so, get a car charger. If you are away from all outlets and not in a car for large parts of the day, maybe grab a spare battery off ebay. At least you have the option. Some smart phones don't even let you swap the battery in emergencies if you want to. I've found Evo pretty much on par with other phones with similar hardware. Just turn off radios not in use and keep chargers or MicroUSB cables in convenient places like nightstand, desk, car.
[EVO 4G General] mikeDCMDVA:
7 hours out of a single charge sucks, my iphone 3G got 1-2 days on average with heavy usage, but I didn't want to be an Apple fanboy anymore, so I went HTC, and HTC batteries SUCKKKKKK

Anyways, I hope Sprint changes terms soon so I can PEACE OUT
[EVO 4G General] mikeDCMDVA:
Thanks for the most positive response here

The extra battery is something I have not yet done, but I do have my charger with me and one in the car....just feels like it stinks having a phone that has died much faster than any of the rest
[EVO 4G General] nebenezer:
Yeah, me too..
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
That's a huge leap in between

"Talk: 5.8 hours max. (348 minutes)

Standby: 408 hours max. (17 days)

1200 mAh "
[EVO 4G General] mikeDCMDVA:
I still got love for Nokia, never did me wrong..
[EVO 4G General] oshizzle1991:
chill bro........
[EVO 4G General] neodorian:
Once again, I don't know anyone who gets drastically better battery life on a *current gen* phone with the same kind of usage. If all I do is answer emails and texts my phone goes from 100% when I wake up at 9:30-10:00am to maybe 40% when I go to bed around 12 or 1am without charging throughout the day. If I plan to go out to bars or something I will usually top it off just in case I want to take photos or screw around on it a lot. I'm friends with a couple who both have iPhone 3G. It's a slower processor so it drains a little slower but they still bring their charging cables *to the bar* with them so they can recharge around 10-11pm.

My point is that yes, some phones may be slightly more efficient and get 22 hours versus 20 hours doing the same tasks. Still, for the power and flexibility of this phone, I will gladly charge my phone every night to avoid paying way more per month for an iPhone or whatever. My Sprint service is excellent and tied with TMo for cheapest available. I'd rather put my phone on the charger every night than pay an extra $30-40 per month for an iPhone on ATT.
[EVO 4G General] spy_owl2:
I don't want to nitpick or discredit anyone, but I would like to clarify something.

The screenshot posted shows the uptime and corresponding awake time stats - this is the time since the phone was last rebooted. That's not necessarily the time since it was last last unplugged.

In fact, the only time those two would be the same (or close to the same) number is if you [re]start the phone with the charged battery and don't plug it in USB/power until taking such screenshot. Alternatively, you could look up the "time since last unplugged" number from spare parts or whatever app/location shows it.

For example, my uptime right now is 96 hours, and my battery is at 59% - these stats are meaningless without the above presumption or clarification.
[EVO 4G General] corybucher:
What do you have setcpu set at? I've used that kernel and get bad battery life.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
True, but HTC has never done me wrong either... I guess it's just ****ty luck for some people
[EVO 4G General] nebenezer:
I cant believe I didn't think about that, good point

I am guess he rebooted once he was at 100%, I don't think Bielinsk would post irrelevant info..

I don't use SetCPU. I use Juice Defender and I have my CPU set at 245 min, 1152 max awake and 768 max asleep.
[EVO 4G General] Bielinsk:
Actually, I don't charge the phone itself, I just put in a fresh 1500 mAh battery.

I could take the uptime screen shot, but that doesn't show any usage. So someone can put their phone in airplane mode, get 4 days of standby, then change out of airplane and take a screenshot of time since last unplugged.

I put in a new battery on a friday morning, and that was the last screenshot I took before battery went dead. I did get about another 30 or so minutes out of it before it powered off.

Oh, I do run juiceplotter and juicedefender as well.

I tried to take a screenshot showing actual usage. There are days that I am pounding on the phone and I will only get 10 hours or so. So I swap in a new battery and I am good to go.

The screenshot was from a typical weekend usage. I had bluetooth, GPS, and always on data all turned on (juiceplotter will throttle the data) I have the screen set to auto.
[EVO 4G General] stevebiz:
I bought a couple spare batteries on ebay for $10 for when im busy and dont have time to plug in. A friend of mine bought a 3500mah on ebay and it made his evo fatter but as you can guess he doesnt worry about battery life ever. There are REALLY CHEAP AND EASY ways to deal with it peoples. :)

Sent from XDA app on my Evo, virus rom 1.0(newest ota), king bfs 9, setcpu 2.0.3, pri 1.4... l love this amazing machine.
[EVO 4G General] werxen:
Rofl... I like how people here are defending their Evos by comparing it to other smart phones with bad battery life.

Heres the real answer to questions:

Yes, the Evo has horrible battery life. It is a combination of the 65nm processor and the giant screen and crappy HTC kernals built in. The new Droid X, for example, got rated an average of 7 hours battery life with heavy use whereas the Evo got barely over 5. The Droid X, however, has a 45nm processor and superior Motorola software built in.

That being said, in order to get the Droid X you are looking to pay a substantial amount more a month for the premium phone. If this is not a concern, switch away my friend.

The iPhone 4 also has stellar battery life. I rough housed my friends for 4 hours and drained 1/4 of the battery. The downside to this is you will also be looking at paying the ATT premiums and capped data which is not worth it IMO.

There are a couple remedies that can help with the Evo. Seems you have tried software fixes, have you considered upgrading the battery to something with more juice? Also remember that by giving up Sprint you are giving up 1) Unlimited data 2) Best price/what you get 3) Free roaming on Verizon.

While I agree the Evo battery life is garbage, it comes with a great carrier.

EDIT: And yes... there are a ton of un-insightful troll members here. Ignore them. They generally post to increase their post count - nothing more. Also try irc.freenode.net #htc-evo. Many less trolls :)
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
LOL I hope nobody bites
[EVO 4G General] Musawi.y:
yes you can do it!

i did it the other day to my sprint account and it worked on all 5 lines

its that sprint will no longer provide discounts to their accounts

you should look at your bill it is in the first few pages and you have until 9/27 to call in and change

your welcome
[EVO 4G General] kshelton:
Ok so you like the phone but the battery is driving you nuts, why not just get one of these?

http://www.amazon.com/Seidio-Innocell-Extended-Battery-Black/dp/B003SNIR7Y

3500 mah :eek:
[EVO 4G General] vboyz103:
Dude if Evo gave u 1.5 days approximately 36 hours then it's hella good. I mean it's a freaking phone with a small battery man, what do you expect and that's why it's called mobile phone. At some point you just gotta charge it that's all, it's not good to fully discharged your batteries all the times cuz cells will die eventually. I got 20+ hours and I thought it's very good life already. Beside you can always grab a car charger if you are in the car, or usb charge if you near a computer.
[EVO 4G General] mikeDCMDVA:
Really?

So the change is that Sprint doesn't provide discounts?
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
That's half true, it depends on the discount. As 99% of the discount are just that, discounts, they will not waive your ETF.
[General Questions and Answers] Difeddy:
Hi! I'm new to this forum so I hope there will be some understanding for the urgency.

Here's the deal; I dropped my HTC Desire in the toilet, clumsy me. I managed to grab it within a few seconds and so I removed all parts and let them dry over a towel. Stupidly enough, I tried to reboot the phone after some time, not thinking that electricity and water does not mix too well. I dried the cell phone with a vacuum cleaner for about 5 minutes and placed it in a bowl of rice. Just recently, I tried to start the phone with the charger plugged in but it won't work this time either. The phone keeps vibrating and vibrating until I separate the battery - what should I do?

I live in Sweden if that is of any importance. :D
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] superchilpil:
Does anyone know where I could get a installable zip version of the cm6 kernel?

Thanks!
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blaksplash:
here ya go
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] superchilpil:
thanks again
[Streak 5 Android Development] falgun:
i rooted my device using androot. woohoo simple. Now everyone please tell me what i can do with my dell streak (US version still on 1.6).

PS: i tried the wifi tether but it is not working for me keeps giving error.
[Streak 5 Android Development] digthemlows:
after some hassle I got 2.1 on my US Streak, it's well worth it, way more stable than 1.6 was.........Barnacle Wifi works with 1.6 I believe if you don't want to flash custom ROMS. There's lot's to read around here.
[Streak 5 Android Development] falgun:
Yeah been reading lost of good stuff to get after root. Thanks for the reply, will give barnacle a go.
[Streak 5 Android Development] Muo:
Not development related, move to general.
[Streak 5 Android Development] fards:
adfree is a good reason for using root.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] woaloo:
Hi,

I've installes pocketshield on my phone. I though it was not so useful and it drains my battery, so I decided to uninstall it.

The problem:

PocketShield replace the HTC Sense dialer-Slide to answer by the Windows mobile default one. I can't roll back to original dialer.

Could you tell me how can I do to restore it because WM dialer is so ugly and with no slide to answer

Thanks for your help.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] woaloo:
No solutions ?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Neo XL:
Try it with this dialer (from the EVO). It looks much better than the original dialer skin. Also it has the important functions. I hav had also problems with pocket shield.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] woaloo:
thanks for your answer, but I don't think it's working on a french rom...I'm still looking for a solution.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] qiu:
Hi, I flashed my SGS to JM8 and the sales code now is KOR. My SGS is a UK 3 locked one. Should I change it to CPW or XEU? I don't have a H3G in the list so those two are the only UK code.

But what exactly does sales code do? I can use my phone without a problem with this KOR code...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
KOR means Korea

you flashed a Korea firmware?

you installed the BETA buggy Froyo 2.2 ?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] qiu:
no, like I said, JM8