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[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] betoNL:
Really ...I didnt read all the posts yet but i had to stop after reading this one above quoted...

I am a newbie,but happily I can read! And that's what I just read at samfirmware:

http://www.samfirmware.com/apps/blog/entries/show/4793800-new-firmware-i9000xxjph

So, all this nagging about BETA firmwares? What you guys should be complaining about, is why the OFFICIAL Froyo upgrade is taking so long.

Why we purchase a so called high-end smartphone, that costs more than 400 euros and some users still need fixes, voodoo, the effort, talent and good will of 3rd party developers

And then when the official upgrade is there we all be able to make grounded conclusions and make serious complaints.

For instance: In the official froyo annoucment it is stated that it will support voice dialing over bluetooth.

That's one of the reasons that I, as a newbie didnt wait and went for JPC (the other reason is that I could do that easily over Kies)

Voice dialing over bluetooth is an important feature for those who drive a lot and phone a lot, for those who see a smartphone more as a instrument than a toy...

Well voice dialing (over bluetooth or not) still sucks in Froyo JPC and probably still sucks in JPH (would anybody test it?)

The Pico TTS engine is unfunctional and Google voice actions (at least here in Holland) is crappy too; even when I succeed to fake an american english accent (yes it doesnt even work in other languages, what a shame).

Because of the froyo annoucments I decided to buy my first Android device...

It doesn't look Android will get the "voice dialing thing" sorted out.

Do HTC Desire users got it? I dont think so..

I made a while ago a kind of mistake, starting a thread, expressing my disappointment with the Android OS , not knowing that JPC was Beta

This time I will wait before jumping from JPC to JPH, unless you guys tell me the voice dialing is working fine in JPH, I mean working as it shoul work, just like in Symbian and WM devices....and in ALL telephone supported languages...
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] ewok666:
You need to learn how to read before posting BS like this:

http://www.samfirmware.com/apps/blog/show/4793800-new-firmware-i9000xxjph

clearly states that this is a BETA at the bottom of the page. Now I don't know what this is but whatever it is.......SamFirmware are NOT saying it is final.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] dclobato:
No GPS fix at all

Hi,

After reading the two threads for this firmware, I decided to download and apply it on my i9000.

Everything seems to be fine, but I just can't get a GPF fix at all. With a clear sky view, I can see one or two sats on GPSTest, and no more than this. On the previous version I was using (JM7), the GPS was fine... well, at least I could get a fix ;)

Does anyone have this problem?

BTW, now I can configure the contacts application to show only my real contacts, and not all GMail contacts, which is really great.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Finguz:
Richthofen did say so though, over here. Also I'm sure I saw a post or tweet from Samfirmware saying the same thing.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Vulpinity:
126 apps (slightly shocked at that when I just counted - don't remember downloading that many! :D), no background apps if I can help it, no task manager other than the standard Samsung jobbie, and updated via Kies (after altering the hosts file) with a factory reset.

Works absolutely superbly for what I want, everything is fast and snappy, so I'm happy. I'm sure there are probably bugs galore, but none (so far!) that seem to directly affect my personal use of the phone, so no complaints at all here. Then again, for some reason I didn't get half the bugs most people seemed to talk about in JPC, so not quite sure what's going on there! :eek:

I will say though that I don't use bluetooth for anything at all, so that side of things could be full of holes as far as I know.

Benchmarks are much lower than when I ran lagfixed JF3, but the phone 'feels' infinitely nicer than it did back then. Compared it directly today to my friend's lagfixed JF3 Galaxy S (bought on the same day from the same place on the same network, so makes quite a good control phone), and the difference is very noticeable, mine is much smoother and just generally nicer to use.

Particularly weird though is that my CSC is back to being from the UK after JPC changed it to KOR. Not complaining though! :D

Very odd how some people have issues with some firmwares that others don't - for example, I had a big pile of issues with JM1 which made the phone nearly unusable, yet others raved about it. Seems like every phone has different issues. Weird!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] dnsp:
When this guy asked this: http://twitter.com/gauravh1/status/24599125144

SamFirmware guy answers this: http://twitter.com/SamFirmware/status/24600874216

Apparently at first he was convinced that it was a beta release but something made him change his mind.

If you want to continue in denial, go ahead, but wait and see.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] ewok666:
No, YOUR expectations are just lower than mine and those of many others.

Seriously, look on youtube for JM8 and Voodoo. That's what it should be like and JPH is nothing like that.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] dclobato:
Any trick for doing this, or just flash the JM8 using Odin? As my GPS is not working at all, I will have to downgrade :(

thanks.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] ewok666:
So the guy asked: "are you so sure that it's final froyo or just another beta fw for froyo?"

and the reply was: "yes im sure about that."

I honestly don't think either one of the two has a firm grasp of the english language and the web page still states it's beta.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] ewok666:
Nonsense.

You can restore most (if not ALL) apps just fine. Just don't touch the system apps. A good way is to restore MISSING apps and then go through the list and remove those that are not apps that you installed yourself!

The app is just the same APK for 2.1 and 2.2. If you really want you can delete the data and just keep the app but I've done this dozens of times and it works just as well with the data restored.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] opica:
LoL dude, you're talking about 'first hands-on' review...

It's a 'first hands-on' on a device, if you look some videos about SGS in these kind of reviews, it too is always working quite perfect.

You can't even get an idea how the phone is gonna work for you.

I'd have to see it for myself, both phones in my hands, about the same apps on both phones, about the same configuration and using both phones for some time...

I'm quite happy with my SGS and I'm still on stock JG1, no lag-fix applied, nothing. I have about 190mb of RAM free when I kill all the processes I don't need and have about 50 apps installed. If froyo is going to be even faster and (hopefully) more reliable, it's gonna be sweet :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] odyssey61:
Are you serious? He changed his mind, oh well of course that decides it then, lol. Its another beta otherwise there would be announcements.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] MomijiTMO:
It's clear that those who think the SGS is fine without any community fixes have never owned a comparable Android device. It's a night and day difference to me. With a lagfix, things are good. Why should there be a lagfix in the first place? Why the hell does it take several xda chaps to come up with a fix? It's these kind of things that we really don't need to put up with. I'm not really concerned about a slow 2.2 release -> it's better than Motorola.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] litobro:
While it's true that I have never owned a comparable Android device, the lag isn't a huge issue with me. I work with several vintage apple computers almost daily, those things lag. What really irks me is the GPS problem, I need it to navigate as I have a poor sense of direction at best. So until we see a GPS fix, the phone is still inadequate for day to day use.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] MomijiTMO:
It depends what stock rom you got. As a late adopter, I was blessed with JG4 which is pretty good. The demo models at my local stores are pretty bad.

I don't have a properly functioning gps either but I already have a sat nav in my car so it has (luckily) never been a big problem.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] BTTNext:
I don't know what your expectations are really, but indoors I get 8 satellite fixed and location lock within ~3 seconds on JPH. I'd advise you to exchange your phone if still possible.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] DangerMUK:
Is anyone else now noticing that the 3G stability isn't *as* good as JPC

Connection seems to drop more here on O2 UK than on the JPC Modem

Can I interchange the JPH<->JPC modem files in Odin ? Annyone else tried it ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] duongla:
I agree with you, my SGS is very good at the time of buying except the lag issue. GPS works fine. All the problems may be hardware-specific.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Redth:
Got it.running here and loving it!

No lag.fix needed
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] sunwee:
regarding the low ram compared to other android devices...there is some speculation that part of it was reserved as ramdisk. if it is true, then probably it is used as some kind of caching mechanism. i suppose samsung knows how ****ty rfs is. lol...

good thing about android, samsung aint the only fish in the sea. way to go for screwing up a perfectly fine hardware, samsung.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] ickyboo:
Yes you can. Just dont select pit file and dont select repartion. Just put in modem file and nothing else. Im using jm5 with jpc modem. Nothing special in jpc modem imho. Also if using froyo u cant downgrade modems but u can use froyo modems in eclair
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] ewok666:
My expectation is that the GPS works flawlessly. This is NOT the first generation of GPS integrated phone so this is a serious problem!

It's not the lock speed and number of satellites. This has been discussed heaps: The GPS sometimes drops, goes into some laggy type of slow motion or just deviates a hundred meters from where you actually are. All this while it is reporting locket satellites.

There's a free map in the Market 'GPS Compass Map' that shows this very nicely.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] ewok666:
Bought a new car the other day. Took it around the block. Goes really well. No seat belts required. Took them out and sold them on Ebay.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] zer0ice:
Maybe you shouldn't have bought an SGS... sell it to someone and get another phone.

OMG. This version isn't even official yet.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] lafaya:
agreed. with poster #209. Everyone needs to chill the f#$k down. When it's "official" (next week) then you can flame or troll Samsung. For now though, here's hoping Richotfen and SamFirmwares are wrong lol
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] tranhq:
while it isn't an official version... they did release the phone with those problems... from all of the unofficial roms they have produced i can't honestly say they have progress and fixed anything.

samsung are incompetent monkeys..
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] MomijiTMO:
Hehe yeah you're right. It's just that we've bottled up our anger and decided to let it go today.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] zer0ice:
You got that right! LOL!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] lafaya:
exactly. Save your anger for the 23rd release date :P With all this negativity, no one will give a crap what Samsung release on the 23rd .
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] rdy2go:
Hopefully it's not final Froyo - I don't believe they could name such untested ROM "final" (and they didn't cause there's no official KIES download) (once again - unable to reply to an exchange email bug makes me sick). Competition (for instance HTC Desire HD/Z) is not sleeping.

The direction is good and progress is visible - another release of Froyo should be better than this one, because this one is better than JPC etc.

In the meantime I enjoy using this device with Eclair + Lag Fix again :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] matty___:
sure magic will happen in one week and all bugs are solved
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] MomijiTMO:
Why does everyone assume the latest leaked beta is new? It's entirely possible that this could be old to the Samsung devs...

Miracles do happen ... I think... oh shiii
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] OrionTC:
good informative post! makes a change from the "my gps doesnt work on a leaked untested beta firmware"

very interesting news about the gfx drivers....i hope your right i really do! i thought that was one of the main things locked down in most phones? and the main reason why the community thought we would never see a XDA version of anything past froyo (if samsung decide we dont get 3.0)? correct me if im wrong.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] ivanchin99:
Same here.. bah
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] mrruin:
excellent post miki, people really need to get a grip on themselves.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Kilack:
Agreed, excellent post and interesting too.

Though at the same time, some people might just expect a high end phone from a huge company to not have so many bugs when they purchase it.

Another concern is that I have not seen anyone talk about is that the average person buying a phone will never bother connecting to kies let alone installing it so they are stuck with the firmware the phone comes with (buggy?). OTA is the only way to get a decent version through to the masses. This is one of samsungs main failures I think.. using kies for updates, its only going to be the tech people that actually bother installing kies etc.

Just my humble opinion of course.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] miki4242:
Yep, the kernel driver is completely open-source, GPL. If you download the latest(!) GT-i9000_OpenSource.zip from opensource.samsung.com and unzip that, it's in 3d_module_GPL.tar.gz :)

Of course it's quite possible (even likely) that there are still binary-only executables and/or shared libraries needed in userspace, but it is MUCH easier working with those, since they have to use well-defined interfaces. On the other hand, wrapping a binary blob kernel driver designed for a certain kernel infrastructure to work with a different (usually newer) kernel infrastructure is a complete nightmare...
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] sveinmer:
JPH bluetooth

Confirmed, did the trick for me as well.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Gringo63:
Im currently running a rooted JPH with lag fix, and find it smoother then JPC.

It is my feel that Samsung is focusing more on internals of this firmware.

Problems like the exchange email reply issue etc can be fixed easiily by a update via samsung apps on a later date if they don't get around fixing it for release.

So far, The improvements and the desire to update the phone is above what i'm used in the mobile phone market.

Just my 2 euro cents.

JPH is here to stay fore.... well till the next improved firmware

*edited for spelling*
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] r3loaded2010:
Ok, been using JPH for the past few hours now, with no lagfix applied. Phone's been as smooth as butter, no lag in the menus at all like there was in JPC. Everything launches very quickly too. I don't know what magic they've worked, but my phone is very responsive on RFS.

Anyone feels inclined to challenge my claim, I'll post a video to prove it!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] g0c:
post a video. ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] lafaya:
a few hours isn't enough to prove anything. try a few days and you'll see lag for sure :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] spyrale:
126 apps? wow, impressive...:eek:

thanks for this detailed report!

in the meantime samsung fixed the 3-buttons issue...come on samsung, you can do it! :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] dagrim1:
Great post, nice change from the whining seen everywhere else... Thanks!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Maddmatt:
It is much better than before and at a level that could be considered acceptable for a phone that doesn't have a 1Ghz CPU.

I used it for a while without the lagfix and it was ok. But there is still often a delay going through menus and opening more demanding apps like Dolphin Browser HD, and this delay is almost eliminated with a lag fix.

Whoever the idiot at Samsung that insists on using the RFS filesystem is, needs to get fired and replaced with a competent person.

I really like this phone but these software screw-ups are killing the chances that I will ever support Samsung again.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] r3loaded2010:
Ok, I'll check back here this weekend and see how it goes. If it's laggy by then, ok, you win. But I stand by my claim that as of now (switched on for the past 13 hours), it's smoother than JPC with OneClick Lagfix. I'm as confused and sceptical as you are as to why this is the case, but the user experience doesn't lie! :p
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] davidf:
Seems to me that there are a lot of posters that really need to come to grips with reality, lets see

1. the number of posters that are complaining about the download speed of the latest un-official firmaware then 15 minutes later complaining that gps on the move is still bad...thats just BS, you can't be downloading and be 10km down the road in your car at the same time testing firmware that isn't even on your phone.

2. Dozens of posts specifically say reset the phone after flashing, have these wankers done that NO......................

3. Most people who ***** the loudest talk about quadrant and linpack scores.. do these actually mean anything in reality.....NO.............

4. The moron posts, "Every time I buy a samsung product its crap", old lesson fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me... if you are that stupid to continually be disappointed and going back for more you shouldn't be permitted to make any decisions in life.

4. As a developer who depends on software I have approx 40 apps and tools on my pc, for the life of me why in the world does anyone need 100+ apps on their phone, that is to put it bluntly pathetic and just shows that people are not using the phone as a tool but as a toy, and most children break their toys within 24 hours of unwrapping them.

5. Placebo's - this desire to add hacks to the system because you read that it would solve all lifes issues and boost you bank account at the same time is a recipe for disaster especially if you don't know what you are doing.

6. Environment, if any phone is put in a situation where it is hunting between towers to get a strong signal or the towers are congested the phone will be affected, many issues people experience are not hardware related they are software or environment(or even carrier related), put any other phone in the same environment at the same time and odds are the galaxy will cream it.

7. Delivery... love these comments- "samsung has 10 days or they can get stuffed"... hate to disappoint you how long was the delay on the htc desire for 'froyo'. Lets face it there are millions of Galaxies out there and human nature is if you are happy say nothing, those that are unhappy ***** the loudest and in most cases will never be satisfied, percentage wise its the majority (probably about 99.5% of Galaxy users) that are extremely happy with the vanilla device they have.

8. Its a phone not a fracking desktop computer.

9. The biggie- Test firmware people.......(as in sh1t happens)

2 months in and this phone is so superior to anything I have owned before. And I own my phones, mummy or daddy didn't buy it for me I didn't get it on a contract plan just so I could have what some advert told me was the latest and greatest(commonly related to penis envy). I checked what best suited my needs, listed my options and made a choice, and this choice was the best I have made over several hi-end phone purchases.

XDA used to be a great forum for information and getting a deeper understanding of various devices, now days it seems to be full of trolls and morons such a shame really.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] dagrim1:
I notice nothing, I see they switch from one home screen to another and open a pre loaded browser. Oh yeah, and goes through the app drawer thingie... It's fast, but not faster then my sgs at all.

This video proves nothing imo...
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] darkoroje:
You obviously don't know much about software development if you think the bugs in this version can be fixed in a week or two. The GPS problem has been around since the phone was released and now Samsung is going to magically fix it in a week ? Dont expect much change between JPH and the final version, and that is assuming this is not the final version. The fact that it shows protected applications in the Market means that Samsung has registered this version with Google so obviously JPH is not just some temporary ROM.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Motjida:
I couldn't have said it better myself, someone give this guy a medal :cool:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] exadeci:
Totally agree but even if there are lot of dumb no even able to search before asking for help and complaining about things they don't know a f about I'm glad that there are still good developpers out here

About JPH ? Well like jpc it's run pretty fast nothing to really complain about. I updated with kies and wiped data because I like to have a clean start GPS has now a "normal" lockspeed, I mean like most of the phone and I just would like to have it more precise like not showing me randomly exactly on the road and then on the top of a building :rolleyes:

PS: I hope that if samsung can't get the gps perfect they will call outside devs to help them
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] dagrim1:
Although I agree with some of your points I disagree with others...

@3: Even though linpack and quadrant don't tell everything they DO say something. Perhaps they overexaggarate certain benchmarks and thereby grant a score which is not realistic but those benchmarks DO count.

That said, the voodoo fix with a quadrant of 1700ish feels so much smoother and nicer compared to the one click lagfix with a quadrant of 2400-ish.

@4: Nonsense, it is a smartphone and the fact that for many specific functions you can install an app leads to an enourmous amount of apps.

Large number of games, for things like news, weather, system monitor, battery tools, gps, etc there are apps. Different versions, different functionalities. All in all I have about 80 apps installed, does that mean I'm a kid playing with my device? No, it means I have many different things I am interested in and many different tools I find a use for and which I am now able to take with me everywhere I go.

THe phone should be (and in my expierience is) able to cope with that.

@5: That and there ARE major improvements by applying hacks and fixes. That was the case on my winmo devices and it is the case now on the SGS. The placebo works the other way around as well, flash a new firmware and people will feel things work faster... untill the rush settles down.

@6: Part of it can be explained by environment but certainly not everything. Hard core bugs and missing functionality (or bad design choices such as the RFS filesystem)

@8: It's not a phone, it's a smartphone. Big difference. It's a phone but also a camera, organizer, internet device, etc. Samsung (and others) advertise with this so you should expect (most of) those things to be working properly.

Anyway, I love the SGS... my biggest problem with it is the mic quality when recording videos. Yay, you can record in HD but forget about the sound for it is utter crap. The RFS system is crap as well, but luckily the voodoo fix makes it go away.

It's a great phone, not perfect but I have yet to find the perfect phone (oh, the sms issues on the HTC HD2 for example). Lets just see what samsung delivers when the froyo firmware is final and go from there.