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[Vibrant General] quest4fire:
If I was Samsung it would make sense to release Froyo with the GPS and Lag fixes wrapped up in a single OTA. Perhaps that is why this is taking some time. Samsung sold a million of the Galaxy S so far and I am confident they will back their product up. TMO has a licensing agreement with Samsung to flavor the ROM with TMO extras, other than that I dont think TMO has anything to do with the OTA, they just push it out from their network when Samsung releases it. This is the reason why not to listen to TMO reps because they have no control over when the OTA will be done.

I know some of you are upset that you feel you bought a flawed phone but I only see 2 flaws--GPS and Lag and there are other phones that were released that were more buggy! Even the IPhone 4 had a death grip issue which I consider a more severe problem! If this is such a big issue to you, there are GPS and Lag fixes already available on this site to download and apply. If I were you I would make a nandroid backup of your current ROM, apply the GPS/Lag fixes and when you get word of the upcoming OTA (XDA will announce it) then flash back to your old ROM to get the OTA. There is also a stock rom zip on this site you can download too.
[Vibrant General] ykwak:
vibrant

ummm, my vibrant has SEVERE signal attenuation by simply holding the phone with part of my hand ANYWHERE along the bottom - any orientation, any position, anything. If my hands are touching the bottom of the phone... the signal bars just drop.

not to mention that my previous MyTouch 3g and G1 had MUCH better signal reception.

iphone 4 is very superior in many ways...and that's a fact. i just dont like AT&T nor apple's requirement of itunes, etc.
[Vibrant General] Pookito:
Dude, that is so true.
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
ummmmmmmmmmmmmm the iPhone 4's problem and SIGNAL ATTENUATION FROM YOUR HAND BLOCKING THE INTERNAL ANTENNA IS NOT the same thing for one and secondly.

JFD'S BARS ARE INACCURATE AND HIGHLY UNDERESTIMATE ACTUAL SIGNAL STRENGTH. HAND ATTENUATION IS EXAGGERATED BY YOU BECAUSE YOU ACTUALLY THINK YOU HAVE NO BARS AND TWO BECAUSE OF THE ABOVE MENTIONED BUG FIRMWARE VERSION JFD. Did you get that?

ok.
[Vibrant General] smashpunks:
You all keep saying your confident that Samsung will back up their product.

Well lets put of this way. Were the only phone running a 1 ghz without froyo.

Evo has it

N1

HTC incredible

D2

Dx

G2 soon

Hell even a non android phone has 2.2 (HTC hd2)

To top off Samsung sucking at updates, now we got tmobile also (hence why others already have a update)...

So when you say you think samsung will back up their product , when you talking about? So far they have not. 1/4 of a year is not sufficient time when everything else is getting 2.2 or atleast even just 1 update.......

Samsung fail.... luckily the devs here have fixed my GPS.....

Samsung and tmo = disappointed
[Vibrant General] Pookito:
People stop complaining, u all sound like old hags just nagging and nagging about an issue (fix), that we all know it will be here when it gets here. We all know we have an expensive cool phone. Samsung's reputation is on the line. They know that the GPS does not work. Be more constructive.
[Vibrant General] smashpunks:
How long will you take the dry humping before you get pissed. Every damn phone out has 2.2 or if its a sgs its gotten a fix update but our tmobile one.

I was chill till epic, captivate and fascinate all got updates and we haven't, considering ours was out first. Junk I say
[Vibrant General] funeralthirst:
i know you posted in this thread so you are aware of it, but you want 2.2? here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=788784

you want a gps fix? there are plenty of options in the dev section.
[Vibrant General] funeralthirst:
i don't think it was the people responsible for testing, i think it was marketing or upper management that got in the way (isn't that how it usually goes? lol). i could be wrong. but i imagine it went something like 'we need to release this device now, get the gps working as best you can before release because we can't just leave it out. then we'll worry about improving/fixing it later'. but i could be wrong, i don't know how samsung works. to me, it would seem that any programmer would feel a little disconcerted putting out something they know doesn't work. i take pride in my code, so i know i'd hate to put something out for people to use if i knew it didn't work.
[Vibrant General] smashpunks:
Is this a joke ? You know I know bit still post a link.lol

Also wifi don't work, speakers don't work properly, flash has no sound, buttons are wack, Bluetooth don't work.lol

Yea, real froyo
[Vibrant General] funeralthirst:
posted the link for everyone else complaining about froyo as well (like people that don't check the dev section and/or don't know what eugene is doing for/with this phone). and i assume its about as good as 2.2 for the hd2 that you brought up.
[Vibrant General] quest4fire:
Look at it this way, my Vibrant is already bad ass with 2.1 and imagine what it will be like in 2.2! I will take it over Evo, Incredible, etc any day! Vibrant hardware is already way better than G2. We will get 2.2, there is no way that we will not get it. Sammy will come through, if they dont imagine how many of us will never buy Samsung again. I just heard that Captivate is getting an update soon, there is no way that we will not get an OTA.
[Vibrant General] MacGuy2006:
You are a little too excited.... :)

I play with the EVO from time to time, and overall it feels smoother than the Vibrant.

Specs on paper are not everything. Heck, my old iPhone 3Gs feels way smoother that my Vibrant.

Realistically, if it wasn't for the gorgeous screen, this phone, with the lag and the GPS and compass issues, and with its poor battery life, would be mediocre at best.

But I do love the screen.
[Vibrant General] d_bot:
this could be true, the "defects" that the GPS team submitted, could have been blown off, to "meet the dead line" wouldnt be the first time i guess huh.......sorry galaxy s GPS tester team(if it was upper management pushing the phone through)
[Vibrant General] ykwak:
phone signal drops bars AND drops calls AND has less signal strength in dB. tested with mytouch 3g, g1, iphone 3gs at the same locations.

want more? i have videos too, which were sent to t-mobile
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
THE BARS ARE BASED ON THE -dB READOUT - ITS WRONG AS WELL.

Anything else?
[Vibrant General] Kubernetes:
Agreed, the bars mean nothing apart from More bars indicates a stronger signal than less bars. I regularly see zero bars and still get full 3G speed. So yeah, bars are meaningless if zero bars is still above the threshold to maintain a good connection.

That's quite different from the iPhone4's issue, in which the phone would actually lose connection because of the antenna issue. If you can manage to make the Vibrant actually drop a call or lose data by holding it in a specific way... well, maybe you or your phone is just special.
[Vibrant General] FastKatt:
Unfortunately, without a fully functioning 2.2 rom, all we can do is imagine. For that matter, a fully functioning and properly performing 2.1 would be nice.

Thankfully, with all the fixes the devs here have come up with, I'm not in a rush for 2.2. The devs here have fixed my lag, my gps, given me a voice button in swype, etc. Just because I can "comfortably" wait doesn't make me any less disappointed with samsung and tmobile.
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
HAHAHAHAHA.. you do know that they're working off of Samsung's stuff right and making minor modifications right?!

Samsung included the updated SWYPE keyboard with the Voice button in JIx(2+) firmware for the Vibrant.

Samsung is the only one that has made ANY difference in GPS functionality be it good or bad.

Lag fixes = hacky. I wonder why a ton of people are bricking their Captivates after updating with a "lag fix".

Giving them credit for repackaging Samsung's work has to be a joke.

Show me a dev that has fixed the GPS without any input or use of information/files from Samsung.
[Vibrant General] Kubernetes:
I don't think that's the issue. If you look at that thread, people are having failures all across the board, including people with stock Captivates. Others are managing to successfully update with rooted phones that were un-lagfixed.
[Vibrant General] FastKatt:
Hahaha. Good one. You sure are slick pointing out what most people already know. Sure they are working off of samsung's code and it's amazing that all the pieces come together and work when flashed on my stock build. Makes one wonder why sammy can't package it.

Lag fixes hacky? I haven't had one issue running an ext4 on my external sd with a Jac kernel. Been running it since he released it and after trying 3 or 4 custom roms, have easily put the ext4 Jac solution back in place without a hiccup. But, I don't expect everything to be "one click" simple and will spend the extra few minutes using a solid solution. Of course, we all know that not everything is equal on all sgs phones so a captivate bricking on a lag fix really doesn't mean anything to my vibrant.
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
Sure but having one installed will cause problems..
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
JI2:includes all of what you're talking about. Anything else?
[Vibrant General] FastKatt:
Thanks but I tried it and it still has noticeably more lag than using ext4 on external sd with the stock rom. I'd rather keep the high performance and flash the pieces they actually fixed.
[Vibrant General] z0phi3l:
There are other T-Mobile employees here, even I think a Manager, we'll get confirmation soon enough
[Vibrant General] AuraspeeD:
I have no reason to lie about it, what would I gain from posting misinformation or otherwise manufacturing this claim?

For obvious reasons I'm not going to post the internal email and risk any repercussions from my employer for posting confidential emails from a District Manager.
[Vibrant General] flameinthefire:
ok. we believe you. do you have any information about froyo?
[Vibrant General] AuraspeeD:
Depending on what market the other reps are, they may have not seen this email since it was pretty localized to our market here. From seeing the email conversation, it looked like my Market manager emailed the Samsung Territory Representative personally about her personal Vibrant's GPS issues, and he responded to her with the update ETA and info on what is being updated. She then forwarded his reply to all reps in our market so we'd all be in on the info.
[Vibrant General] turbosix:
good to hear, definitely not jumping on the gun until we know exactly what we have (or dont have ) to undo before applying a fix. it'd ****ing suck to hit "accept" on a lagfixed phone only to have the update conflict somehow and brick your phone.
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
Yeah uh, with this leaked update.. it's not a shocker to hear news of an update soon.
[Vibrant General] Relikk356:
LIES, you're just trying to trick us into believing this so when the 20th rolls around you can point and laugh at us for taking your word. 'Do you think I was born yesterday'? I would be terribly embarrassed if anyone found out that I trusted you, and extremely let down if that update does not come out on the 20th as you stated. NO SIR, I WILL NOT BE HOODWINKED!!! lol
[Vibrant General] smashpunks:
LMAOOO you always say what I think. Why are people so skeptical when there's just been a leaked update . Lol only makes sense. Not saying the 20th is stone but its a likely topic.
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
That's what I was thinking(haha), it's plausible.
[Vibrant General] SamVib:
It's about time that release an update. Seems like it's in the right time frame since the leaked update came out.

I wonder if there will be anything else that was included in the leak. I guess we'll find out soon.

And thanks OP for posting this so we have an exact day.
[Vibrant General] cooperspeed1981:
I was a store manager for TMO in Pikesville, MD and word to the wise I fired 3 reps like yourself who did exactly what you're doing/did. Naturally it was not by choice but saying stuff like that could get you a promotion to customer faster than you could blink. Now as a fan I agree with what you're doing but trust me don't do it anymore unless you were looking for that promotion. If possible I would delete that pay and make sure it could never be traced back to you. I'm not bashing you for wanting to help but that info is "proprietary" and if someone on here called TMO for some stupid reason and snitches on you either on purpose or not the outcome will be the same for you. I loved reps like you that cares about what they were doing and proactively looks for the answer but when it come down to the nitty gritty you can be promoted quickly. Think if the problem you create for yourself when all you're trying to do is help. That email was only for two within TMO and unless they were told they have to play dumb and say they know nothing about any updates until there were told otherwise by the TMO gods. Streamline will tell you when you can actually devuldge that info but I would not do anything until that stupid website tells you that you can. I'm not on here much and I wish you the best and continue to do what you do but please for your own sake "cover" yourself. You don't want to get fired for trying too do the right thing. Think of the problem that could arise with some morton calling in and contesting that they know there is an update coming out on whatever date and if it gets into the wrong hands they will research it find you and terminate you. I had to, against my will. Delete that post if you can so no one could trace it back to you. If you can't then I would just pray no one is stupid enough to call TMO and claim that they have this info and why they aren't told. Good luck.
[Vibrant General] smutek:
Sheep, eh? Wow, that's rich. This forum never ceases to amaze. I'm thinking that some people have other things to follow, to worry about, and to "know" besides what the current hot rom is, how to boost their quadrant scores, or which "lag fix" is best.

I don't take personal offense mind you, but I find it hilarious and a bit ironic that you'd choose the word "sheep" to describe the futility of kids wanting to buy halo games while you seek deeper knowledge of your handheld, which will most likely be upgraded in 2 years and replaced by something new. (NO, I'm not a gamer)

If you are a developer or learning development skills then kudos to you and rock on, but knowing how to root and how to apply vibrant 9 does not make one erudite.

I'd like my gps fixed and a faster phone just like the next guy but at the end of the day this **** just isn't that important.....
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
I have to agree with the above.

If you post this stuff you'll want to be as anonymous as possible.
[Vibrant General] Relikk356:
I'm calling T-Mobile right now and telling them not to worry about sending me the update on the 20th. I already got the leaked version from the Samsung guy almost two weeks before hand. I wonder if that Samsung guy is in Samsung hell?
[Vibrant General] NoDataFound:
I still call shenanigans.

Ima email that executive tmo email and point them to this thread. Then i.guess we will see.
[Vibrant General] All~G1:
You know you're in the vibrant forums on xda right? It was probably done half an hour ago.... Op delete your sh!t. Lol. Oh the amusement of the vibrant forum.
[Vibrant General] Die_T-mobile:
Just deny everything like T-mobile does. All they do is lie.
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
You poor thing. Can you go complain somewhere else where they give damn?
[Vibrant General] skater4690:
lol gotta love your sn :D actually laughed out loud on this jajajaja
[Vibrant General] Shagman68:
All I can say is STFU! I'm an impatient person, and I like a leak of information to keep me going.

Sent from my Vibrant using the XDA app.
[Vibrant General] Ms_Vibrant:
just a little question..

i have ryanza's lag fix from the market.. will i still be able to get an OTA update? if so, will i be able to download that fix on top of the lagfix i installed?

or i will brick my phone? or i need to remove ryan's lag fix first?

maybe no one knows yet for sure?

thanks
[Vibrant General] gunks:
READ THE THREAD... It's already been mentioned.
[Vibrant General] NoDataFound:
ZOMFG ITS TRUE!!!1! I set my date to.the 20th on my phone and got the update.
[Vibrant General] kizer:
I was not referring to us phone users as sheep. LOL I was referring to some of the T-mobile employees as being sheep. Meaning there are those that want to know how all these phones work and there are those that just want to pass the time at work and can care less and just do their jobs and get by.

Was not my intent to offend anybody LOL
[Vibrant General] kizer:
I hate to say it other than the STFU I agree. At least somebody is telling us something opposed to your phones have Crappy GPS's some of you have Lag and well we don't care because we have internal secrets and we don't have to tell you anything, but we will wait until the correct time and have a press conference and make it seem like we are saving the day.

I'd be rather surprised if T-mobile had the juice to squeeze xda for the IP of the poster so they could reverse look him up and bust him. If that was the case half the places I visit would kill off members one by one and have zero respect for any of their members or future members.
[Vibrant General] 98classic:
lol @ cooperspeed1981! bahahaha...

yea OP delete your life because tmo will trace you and find you and hang you then shoot you the fire you, also they will kill everyone in your family. lol
[Vibrant General] kizer:
Id worry if everybody knew your nick on the net at your job, but other than that. Wippppppppiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

I'm sure that's why nearly all of us have a nick and a real name. :D
[Vibrant General] XfooYen:
Who uses the word "erudite" in a forum, goddamnit? Knock off that high school vocabulary list **** before I friggin' cry.

Sorry for trolling. I'm 3 days off sugar.
[Vibrant General] Smokexz:
If 2.2 got leaked then hell yeah I would flash any unofficial ROM, but this is just 2.1 I can wait 4 more days for a proper fix to this issue, I don't want to end up putting an incomplete ROM. Still thanks for the issue and I know I am not the only eager person looking forward to this fix, no more lag fixes, happy about that for sure
[Vibrant General] hurrpancakes:
Hey! There are some of us that are intelligent enough when it comes to phones and play videogames, you know.
[Vibrant General] daddysays:
What if the OP's name IS Aura Speed?
[Vibrant General] Gomjabar:
Lol that's a good one.

If the op wants to give us a handout then let him. I'm sure he was aware of the risks when he posted. I'm just glad that people like him exist. It keeps the forum interesting.

Thank you mr. Speed
[Vibrant General] lrobles787:
I am glad that you are passing the info along. Thanks...
[Vibrant General] flameinthefire:
yea but sadly still no update
[Vibrant General] Dougefresh91:
Did anyone else see that the Epic 4G is getting an update today?

http://www.androidcentral.com/epic-4g-getting-update-today-enable-samsung-media-hub

Considering the other Galaxy S phones have been out for a while longer I'm surprised this one is getting the update first. If I cared more it would annoy me, but it goes to show you what Samsung's number one priority is. Or maybe I'm just reading into it too much. Anyway it's interesting.
[Vibrant General] rogerchew:
Just means sprint was on top of their game. T mobile definitely lagging on getting theirs out.
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
T-Mobile's version is actually an update, not some bloatware push for Samsung's Media hub and a few other light fixes.
[Vibrant General] d_bot:
DUDE!!! you too?? OMFG i got a 4400 quadrant score, and GPS is right on! LOL

but seriously I hope it's coming soon.

Thanks for the info OP, but you better hope that some people get this update on the 20th, or else some crazy vibrant users might show up at your house with pitch forks and rope! lol
[Vibrant General] fumanstan:
Not sure why you would say that, the leaked T-Mobile update doesn't seem that much different from the stuff listed in the Sprint update. Both add Media Hub + misc fixes.
[Vibrant General] aohmer:
One thing I noticed with the leaked update, the music player, when playing music, I hear skips from time to time. I have gone back to the stock rom with the updated GPS settings.
[Vibrant General] SamsungVibrant:
It's almost the 20th!!!

SO IT'S ALMOST THE 20TH, 15 MINS LEFT FOR PEOPLE ON THE EAST COAST...LET US KNOW IF ANY OF YOU ON THE EAST COAST GET IT AT MIDNIGHT, OR IF YOU CAN FORCE THE UPDATE!

SO FAR THE 18TH RUMOR WAS FALSE, LETS SEE IF THIS T-MOBILE EMPLOYEE WAS TELLING US THE TRUTH ABOUT THE 20TH!

WOOP, sorry about the caps, just noticed.
[Vibrant General] SamsungVibrant:
Sept 20th On the East Coast!

Well it's sept 20th on the east coast, still the 19th on the west.

Can our fellow friends on the east coast let us know if you were able to force the update?

I'm hoping this wasn't another fake rumor.
[Vibrant General] DKYang:
I highly doubt anyone would receive any update right at midnight.
[Vibrant General] gearhead27:
It's 12:05 over In CT and I didn't get any OTA update. I'll keep you guys posted if anything changes.
[Vibrant General] SamsungVibrant:
have you tried forcing it?
[Vibrant General] SamsungVibrant:
maybe, everything is computerized, maybe t-mobile has it scheduled and set on a timer, right at midnight, just for us! lol probably not.

I make a new prediction, update comes out, last day of sept! j.k
[Vibrant General] mystycs:
Says no new firmware wheni press update firmware
[Vibrant General] KerryG:
When my wife's 3G Slide got an update recently, she received a text message 3 days before hand saying that an update would be coming. Since we didn't get a similair message recently, my hopes are running mighty thin.
[Vibrant General] gearhead27:
Yep. Nothing
[Vibrant General] DaxM:
Aww...just flash the latest leaked firmware....I hazard to guess it's 99.99999% the same thing.
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
The Samsung Epic update came with no warning, either way I'm happy with what I have.
[Vibrant General] monsta34:
How do u force the update?
[Vibrant General] SamsungVibrant:
settings>software update

can someone confirm or deny, if forcing is restricted to 1 try every 24hrs?
[Vibrant General] Yankee0750:
1:34 est. and nothing so far.
[Vibrant General] PaiPiePia:
I don't think it is going to drop, simply because some people have pointed out that a informational text message is usually sent out before OTA. :(
[Vibrant General] DreamcastDC:
I also think it won't drop on the 20th, or in September.
[Vibrant General] dmolition:
Oh my freaking Gosh!!!!

I JUST GOT IT!!

I been trying to kill this mosquito for a good 10 minutes and I just got it... :]
[Vibrant General] cybertang:
Major kudos on getting that sqeeter
[Vibrant General] krazie1:
can you post exactly what it said when you received it. if you remember. thanks. and post what have you noticed different if anything.
[Vibrant General] Digital_Warrior:
Congrats how did you kill it. Please tell me you used your Vibrant to smash the bug. If so you some thing special.
[Vibrant General] dmolition:
I dont remember what it said, I only heard the sound of my shoe squishing that sucker, and yeah there is no more buzzing around my room if that helps :] lol
[Vibrant General] krazie1:
LOL i just saw your top post and i didnt see the bottom part. that was a good one. oh and good job on getting that mosquito, they surely are annoying.
[Vibrant General] RaDoLLa:
Lol he was joking
[Vibrant General] joonsim:
That was really funny. Mosquitoes in my house bit my wife's feet and it got away. Thanks for killing his cousin for my revenge.
[Vibrant General] ram130:
Well this rumor is false.
[Vibrant General] gunks:
Easy there RamRod, the day hasn't finished yet!
[Vibrant General] mystycs:
Me want! Me wanty!!!!