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[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] MomijiTMO:
LOL. Nicely done (well mostly).

As someone who *****ed and moaned in this thread, I'm still a bit peeved with Sammy and all BUT I still love my SGS. It isn't the greatest phone available but it's close. It's clearly not just a phone and I expect it to be up to the task, like its competitors are. This last part is the real kicker for me. Not to worry, I'll sod off to HTC if I'm the odd one out post official FroYo. :p

PS: Don't give a toss about synthetic benchmarks.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] darkoroje:
Well the reason why I flashed the ROM is because I need a working GPS. GPS has not been working since day 1 and still doesn't with the latest ROM.

The rest of your comment is just insulting and not worth commenting on.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] MomijiTMO:
Now now, don't take his post too literally. You have to remove a bit of the verbal rage. How did you not laugh at the mummy and daddy comment?

:p
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Frostfree:
Spot on!!! XDA's still great, just ignore the noise ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] exadeci:
What you mean by doesn't work ? Doesn't lock ? Track properly ?

But it's the truth .... I'm a student in programming school and I'm statisfied with around 30 apps that I don't use everyday why would someone need hundred ??

And I'm pretty sure that a lot of the one complaining about phone lag have the 7 screen filled with widgets (with 10 widgets it's around 50mb less ram).

They blame samsung saying that they do crap but they are not even able to think by their self that the more you have on a system the slower it will be ....
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] MomijiTMO:
Errr I hate to pop your bubble but there was lag with stock firmware with NO WIDGETS.

Think before attacking or you look a tad silly ;).
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] darkoroje:
If you want to know about GPS problems just search this forum, there are many posts about it.

I myself only use a few applications. But others may want more; you because you do something one way doesn't mean that others have to do it in the same way.

The lag happens with only a few applications and is not caused by widgets but by the slow file system. Again there are many threads about this on the forum, please do a search.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] exadeci:
I know what was happening with the gps it was my first reason to come here. But because now my gps is almost working properly with JPH I was asking what were you experiencing with YOUR gps to compare.

I know that the lag is caused mostly by RFS but a lot complain about lack of memory too and memory is related to operating speed too if your phone has lack of memory available everything will be slower
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Maddmatt:
The lag has little to do with widgets. It's Samsung's RFS filesystem that they insist on using when it could be easily replaced with something decent.

It's not too bad in this firmware, but it's still much faster with a lag fix, which shows that Samsung's filesystem needs to friggin die already.

They blame Samsung because unlike you they know what the actual problem is, you come across as insulting when you assume it's their own fault before you fully understand the issue.

This phone has a 1Ghz processor with 512Mb RAM, these specs aren't going to have a problem with a bunch of widgets unless you really go overboard or the widgets are crap.

It's easy to load the phone with more than a hundred apps especially if some of the apps are being used as alternatives to stock apps.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Siegfried95:
Hello,

I have upgraded using Kies.

It works well but my Facebook contacts don't link automatically with my Google contacts. I have to do it myself.

Anyone else with this issue ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] darkoroje:
As i said the GPS problems including mine are well described in many threads on this forum. Please just search I would rather not be typing in the same information over and over again.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] ewok666:
I' ve complained my fair share in this thread so I thought I'd clear up where I'm coming from:

I quite like my Samsung and I do not want to return it at this stage (not that I could) ;-)

I don't mind beta testing firmware releases at all!

What I do mind is this: stupid and uninformed comments stating that JPH "totally flies", "is the best firmware ever", "does not need a lag fix at all", "gps now rocks", "gps locks immediately", "I have 99 satellites", "they worked wonders on rfs", "no bugs whatsoever"..............

And other cr.p that does not put things into perspective.

JM8 and voodoo flies and anything that is considerably slower should be described as what it is.........that's all.

We have a total of 16 of these phones purchased over the course of two months and they are all the same

Anyone commenting on speed should look at the voodoo videos on youtube beforehand because that's the speed the Galaxy S should have!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] mongbat:
Coming from JM8 + voodoo lagfix.

Flashed to JPC, followed by JPH, rooted with (which rom was it with the slim and lite option?) applied OCLF, restored about 20 programs only and actually getting bad results after 2 days.

firstly, i've never gotten good battery life with any rom. battery drain on standby (screen off, phone in pocket) is estimated 5% every hour. This seems to be the same case for JPH.

as for the speed, after applying OCLF, seems fine at first, until i started with the browser. this is too disappointing! I was surfing on www.cracked.com, quite graphics heavy, but shouldn't be anything the phone can't handle.

Check out video link, and you will understand my frustrations!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI4XQfa_Z5E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7yGqS6HA7k

I don't know if that's bad, but i compare that to my already very unreliable HD2, and i'm actually that tempted to sell the galaxy s. Normal use seemed fair enough, whatsapp being the poorest performing program, which is consistent, maybe even a little better than JM8 (i don't know why i'm actually contented with some lag now). I got only 1705 on quadrant, but doesn't matter to me, i never got anything more than 1800+. besides, the numbers don't matter. The switching from screen to screen on ADW isn't silky, nor the opening of programs,

My double caps issue with swype wasn't LIke THis, but rather Like This. hiccup, but don't really care.

No other issues, GPS seemed to be quite accurate (compared to being more than a kilometer off on JM7, didn't try much on JM8).

Well, conclusion is, this is a rough FW, i think i'll test it out a little more, maybe will go back to JM8 tonight.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] nickporwal:
Well said!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] zide84:
Hey folks,

wasn't there a function in JPC fw, which allowed yourself to hang up a phone call with the power on/off button?

I'm searching for this feature on JPH, but I can't find it. Anyone else found it?

cheers
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] exadeci:
System > Accessibility
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] q123123an:
That is really strange, mine uses about 5% overnight (3g on). I usually get 3.5 days out of one charge.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] BackfireNL:
Wel GPS is totally useless tried it yesterday with sensor support on! since my compass is acting weird it ****ed the whole route up.. so turned that of! and it lost it's lock every 15 till 30 seconds... wasn't accurate at all
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] nCoder:
Can't everybody agree that this ROM it's slightly better than the previous one, but Samsung has still a lot to do in order to fix the remaining issues? :cool:

- The GPS is better - still needs improvement

- Overall Performance slightly better (in most cases) - needs a lot more (perhaps if Samsung accepted our suggestions on the filesystem...)

- FM radio still no stereo

- A couple of bugs introduced in these "unreleased" ROMs that must be fixed ASAP.

- ...
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] nCoder:
Next week we can confirm if this is the official release, then I propose the community to send an Open Letter to Samsung documenting all Bugs found and perhaps some suggestions. This is one of the most important and influent tech. communities - If we also get this letter some visibility on the main Tech News Sites, Samsung will listen for sure ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] gcsuri:
Hi,

came form JM7.

Sightly slower than JM7.

I have no FC last 2 days. Stable.

GPS fast.

I can't mute incoming call with "volume -" - worked in JM7.

regards,
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] droidwi:
If it is posible +1
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Fuctifino:
Very well said and lots of fair points.

Lets remember one thing, Android is still in it's infancy and although it doesn't help that Samsung have a crappy file system and the GPS is borked (although I've not yet experienced this), the SGS is still a good phone.

Think back to the days of Window 3.11, 95, 98 etc and compare them to Windows 7.

Those old OSes were far from perfect but we at least got good use out of them.

I've played with just about every beta of MS OSes since Win 95 and although this is my first time using beta OSes with a smartphone, there are similarities between them.

There will always be issues with beta builds of OSes and there will always be issues with the first official release.

Give then choice of Android, Iphone or s Symbian based phone, I would still chose the SGS regardless.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Finguz:
I don't mind people having a bit of a rant. What really irks me is having to read posts from people like Ewok666 who tells everyone with anything positive to say that they are stupid and misinformed.

Either people agree with him or they are branded idiots :rolleyes:

People like that get right up my nose!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] greeced:
Anyone know if Voice Dialing via Bluetooth is enabled in this version?

Thats primarily the reason why I want to upgrade.

Thanks
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] zide84:
Ahhhh thx mate :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] INeedYourHelp:
Games = toy. Unless you're getting paid to play the game.

I nominated davidf to be a mod.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] bloodrider:
Yes, it's working. Can't tell you if it's fine because english it isn't my main language.

It seems the Task Manager as some issues, after cleaning RAM level 2 (just to try :P) the system became unstable until I reboot.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] betoNL:
First of all if voice dialing(and over bluetooth) is enabled, it doesnt mean it is working properly.

It is enabled in my JPC but it's unfunctional....it's crappy..doesnt work good..and as I already said "even when I succeed to fake that american accent.

And if it works only in english, it's also unfunctional, because there is life also outside english speaking countries...where hundreds of thousands SGS are being sold...

With my old, ancient, primitive Nokia5800xm, with a small processor, low RAM , costing less of half of the price of the SGS, I could speak a dutch name with my brazilian accent, the device could process it and call the person, smoothly...

Had to put Dutch as default phone's language, because most of the names in my phonebook are dutch names and that's how it works...

But enough with this bla bla bla....finally I get the idea that voice dialing in JPH is crappy too....

Just going to wait for the official Froyo upgrade, hoping that it will be better than these Beta versions...

And than complain....or not....

And for those who falls in love with gs of any other device: Why dont you try to get a life or..a woman???

:eek:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] RyanZA:
I think get ready to complain them, because a voice recognition change of that size isn't going to happen in a couple weeks. Complaining won't do you any good though - maybe you could get a new hobby like stamp collecting? It is much more productive than complaining on the XDA Android Developer board about voice recognition. ;)

That said, if you know of any other Android devices with better voice recognition, we could probably try and copy the files from those devices and see if we can get it working on the SGS. As far as I know though, the voice recognition has zero to do with Samsung, and is completely stock Android.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] captive:
It may look silly, but..

Maybe JPH is not final release.

There's one little thing that makes me think about this, the lockscreen. As many people reported here, it does not support date format of current locale settings: though it may looks like not relevant, as I have experienced, there's often more care to how things look like than how things actually work..

Just my 2cents.

Oh, and people: get a life.. it's a firmware, no one @samsung told it is the final release, your device will work great with current official eclair (+lagfix, if you need it).

I never saw an android device owner not yelling at <Samsung, Htc, Acer, Google, AnyBrandYouWant> because of a <missing, not-so-well-implemented, broken> feature.

Either every Android manufacturer sucks, or we just like complaining.. Software is not perfect, even the Holy Apple releases firmware upgrades.. but we can put hands and hack our devices, while iphoners can't!

That said, I think we deserve a fully working froyo..
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] greeced:
Everyone needs to calm down.

The official update isn't even here yet (or branded as such by samsung anyway), and it's already branding the update a failure.

One must understand that not all functionality enhancements are going to please the entire globe. Some enhancements could be regional, some continental, etc. etc.

Bottomline is, any update is a step in the right direction. At least Samsung is keeping its word and is issuing a Froyo update for the SGS. I've read this wasn't necessarily the case on other phones even though they stated it.

Remember each smartphone is a computer. Every company that develops software, including Microsoft/Mac/Linux issues patches or Service packs for already issued products like Windows XP/Vista/7 or any other software release.

Why are people expecting Samsung to have things running 100% right out of the gate? Any product that is Dynamic has issues. And by dynamic I mean moving parts, or change of state from original. The only thing that doesn't have issues is furniture, because its exactly the way you bought it unless you frack it up.

Cars have recalls, software have patches, TV's have firmware updates etc etc.

Remember, back in the day, phones only did a max of maybe 10 things. So it was easier to perfect it right out of the gate.

But with these new smartphones, that can do an infinite amount of things, it is next to impossible for programmers to think of every possible scenario in terms of how global users will use them.

Thats why no software on any phone is perfect, and heck it never will be. What may not be working and extremely important for you, won't be for the guy sitting next to you and vice versa.

I can guarantee you one thing. You can get the best programmer in the world, hire him, have him develop the software for your SGS, your way, and it still won't work.

You can test things a thousand times over in a lab, but only real world use will tell you there is a problem somewhere. And companies will issue updates based on those problems only if a majority requires it. Its just the way the world goes round.

Just be thankful we have very bright minds on forums like these and a somewhat open sourced android unit that they can tweak to make it work the way you want.

Sorry for my rambling, but people just need to relax a little.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] hacksome:
we have way too rich people over in this thread!!.. They are thinking about selling a brand new phone, just because one beta firmware is not upto the mark. WoW.. just WOW!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] captive:
And, just to go back to the real topic, what about ipsec vpn?

Did anyone test VPNC with a Cisco vpn? Does it work?

And what about battery life?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Vulpinity:
I went to that site, and had no problems at all - smooth and fast scrolling, everything good.

Then I reloaded it a few times.

Ow. :eek:

Exactly the same as in your vids - huge lag, jerky and horrible. I see what you mean!

Pretty sure it's one of the flash ads in particular which pops up which makes everything grind to a halt, as the performance varies hugely depending on which ads are showing. Refreshed, got a brace of T-mobile flash ads on the page, and all was smooth again. Refreshed the page again, and all back to hell!

Still happy with JPH though - it's not perfect, but it's the best firmware I've used yet. Still not felt the need for a lagfix, we'll see how day three goes to see if that changes. :D

GPS did put me on a road going parallel to the one I was on today, but every single GPS device (phone or standalone) I've ever had does exactly the same at that particular place, so I won't jump to blame Samsung on that one.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] darkoroje:
Samsung should hire you for their marketing department. Or maybe you akready work there ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] RyanZA:
Agreed on the flash ads! Some are very very nasty, and will slow down a full PC. A phone just explodes! :)

You really have to do this with Android 2.2! In the browser, menu button->settings->enable plug-ins->On demand

It really is a requirement. :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] greeced:
And I guess Rush Limbaugh should hire you for his.

Really whats the point of your post? Cause I don't see any.

If you read my post more carefully, it wasn't directed only at Samsung, but any mobile device, or any other thing you buy.

Ok so you're ticked at Samsung, go elsewhere... buy their product that your only semi-familiar with from what you've read. Take it home. Use it based on your requirements. Tell me if your 100% happy.

No one said Samsung is perfect. But neither is anyone in here. Anyone, who provides any kind of service or interaction with the public has screwed up or had to rework/retool their service at least once in our lives.

The only difference is, I've had to retool my way of operation for only a few people to make them happy. Did you have to retool yours for over 1 million people? And if so, did you make every last person on that million list happy? I doubt it.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] betoNL:
Well, what I meant about complaining, is towards the organization that officially announce voice dialing over bluetooth as a real improvement in Froyo and have nothing to do with the XDA forum. Here we just exchange ideas, opinions, right?

How am I going to do that or if I am going to try get my money back, well I am just going to try to find that out AFTER the official Froyo upgrade is here and won't do nothing based on leaked firmwares. Anyway anything would be better than collecting stamps...

And what you mean with the size of such a change (voice recognition)? Symbian got it,Windows Mobile got it, why not Android?

Of course it's an Android issue I know that, that's why I started one of my first thread here talking about it; it was a bit naive of me, cause I didnt realize then that JPC was Beta, but many things posted there were right:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=770674

Anyway if RyanZA says so , that's for me another confirmation that, what voice recognition concerns, Android is way behind other operational systems..

And perhaps in other basic features too, like proper connectivity control ...
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] darkoroje:
And what is the point of your post? That nothing is perfect and that is why we should forgive Samsung for not having a working GPS since the phone was released ? I have this funny expectation that when I buy something it should work from the box. OK there might be minor bugs but not complete failure as Galaxy's GPS.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] greeced:
Anyone notice Samsung Servers are down via Kies?

All morning I've connected trying to see if a live update will come (don't want to install any betas) and the only thing showing up is:

"No Response from server. Please check if your internet connection is activated and try again".

I'm connecting from Toronto, Canada - so it may not happen to all based on where you connect from, if indeed Samsung uses more than one server for connections.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] RyanZA:
Voice recognition works pretty well for me, personally. I was just trying to point out that nothing Samsung does to Android 2.2 is going to affect your voice recognition, if it doesn't work in the stock Android. And yeah, Android has a very long way to go in localization. Paid apps on the market are not even available in most countries! That is pretty shocking, and there still isn't much sign of it.

Both Symbian and Windows Mobile have been around for years and years before Android, with enormous teams of people working on localization. Nokia has spent country-loads worth of money into localization. Android is a very very new system in comparison. Windows Mobile 7 also has terrible localization, btw. iPhone started with terrible localization (well, none) but has been steadily improving. It only has voice recognition in english though.

Basically, I'm trying to get across that text to speech, speech to text, localization across 100s of languages, etc etc, are all very very difficult problems. They are not going to be fixed in a few weeks! They are going to take thousands of people years to get right. :)

It is also why open is so useful. Hopefully the next operating system to come along can benefit from some of the localization work done in the Apache licensed parts of Android, such as voice recognition. (Is the Android voice recognition even open sourced? I kind of doubt it. Damn em. ;) )
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] greeced:
See? Thats just it. The GPS is working flawlessly for me. I've never had issues with it. Having said that, I may not use the GPS as extensively as you do, or others that are experiencing the problem. So can I say there is not a problem? No, its just not a problem for me.

And yes you should have expectations that its working out of the box. And it is. I mean your replying to posts from it. So it must be working right?

Look at the iPhone. The big piece of crap that it is... They've locked it down but still couldn't get the most basic of functionalities, and by far the most important part of any phone - reception- working right out of the box with the iPhone 4. And instead of fixing it, they gave you a cover. LOL. what if you don't want one?

And if you can't see the point of my post then really, I've got nothing to say. Your initial reply to me was a direct attack and had nothing constructive to say. If you think the same about my posts, well, then you really need to re-read them.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] darkoroje:
What is the point of you coming to this thread and saying to customers with problems that nothing is perfect and to be happy with what Samsung has produced so far ? Imagine if you had a problem and went to customer service and they told you nothing was perfect would that satisy you? Guess what I dont expect perfection just basic functionallity to work.

The reason why there are so many problems is because Samsung did not test the software enough. The executives in the company set a ship date and the phone had to be released by that date regardless of the state of the software. Happens all the time but at least we as customers should not be posting excuses for them on forums