yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Droid 2 Android Development] 640k:
removing "bloat" doesn't cut it for me. i'm already running launcherpro without root and it gets me by. the ROM devs are working hard to bring things back to normal and they're doing a good job. i just don't want to have to pick between a broken phone icon and a black notification bar.

i'm not asking for miracles. i recognize that most of blur is limiting this activity. that's why i'm asking for just a clean ROM. as apks become available and more of blur can be replaced, the ROM will get better.
[Droid 2 Android Development] facelessuser:
It is harder than you think. Moto modified many services that build with dependencies on the kernel. If we had access to Motos kernel source, then we could just build the vanilla rom directly with google source and be done. Since this is not currently an option, you need to have services that happen to be compatible with the kernal and Motos current structure which is also difficult. Its easy for simple apps that can be switched out like mail and such. But not everything is that easy to swap out. Pull and replace some services on your phone and your phone won't start, because an alternative will not work because the blur service is expressly called, or expected to function in a very "Moto way".

I don't think people are avoiding the stock approach because they don't want stock, I think it hasn't happened (yet) because Moto has made it difficult. Right now its like a Jenga tower. We keep pulling blocks to see which one won't cause the tower to fall. Pull the wrong one...oops we won't pull that one next time. If we could rebuild it from scratch, it would be much easier, because you could build it in the image you wanted opposed to doing surgery to mimic what you want.
[Droid 2 Android Development] 640k:
this i get, and recognize. but if you read through current ROMs (all two of them), there ARE tweaks that i just don't want/agree with.

i dealt with this alot with WinMo and i've avoided putting ANY ROM on my D1. blur is so terrible, all i want is my D1 one back.. but in my D2's body.
[Droid 2 Android Development] walcs:
I think these ROM developers simply have no choice but to do the tweaks they've done because Moto services can't just be taken out, they have to be replaced instead of the original so the phone would still work.

We just have to wait, time solves everything, even Moto
[Droid 2 Android Development] karnovaran:
Apparently you don't get it. As stated, stock Android will require the kernel source, which we don't have.

As a former Ion and Nexus One owner who flashed probably a hundred ROMs, I can honestly say Froyo and root is enough to make me happy. Many of the tweaks custom ROMs offered are now built in (they came from AOSP to begin with) and the hardware has advanced to the point that swapper and overclocking aren't necessary. Frankly I'm not sure what more you could want that isn't possible without root and launcher replacements.
[Droid 2 Android Development] Angdroid:
I am like you. On my D1 I only used OEM ROMs that I modifed myself. I did the same to my D2 and it runs just like my D1. Their are only two differences. Backup assistant services is still running in the backgroud and I still have the messaging app. I removed all blur widgets and all the bloatware I don't need. If I can get rid of the backup assistant I would be very close to plain ROM. Once you remove everything you can safely you are not too far away from a vanilla ROM.
[Droid 2 Android Development] facelessuser:
Well said. This is not my first android phone either. I have also used Cyanogen and others. Root is more than enough for me.

Back in the day, the custom Roms were pushing us into new territories, giving us features we didn't already have; that was why I wanted them. Now I have everything I need with stock and root. There are so many replacement launchers, lockscreens, etc. Going vanilla is just icing on the the cake; if it ever happens at all.

All of blur's UI flaws and app quirks hardly bug me much at all; I can happily live with them if I have to. Overall, the Droid 2 is a great phone as it is ( with root of course :) ).
[Droid 2 Android Development] jerseyh22accord:
I think i might get my head bitten off for this but id be happy with a stock deoxed rom with the stupid bloat apps removed.

I've come to like the blur widgets and features, well except for the contacts sync issue with facebook.
[Droid 2 Android Development] Angdroid:
If you goto droidforums.net and in the Xeudoxus ROM section you will see the xultimate thread which is what you need to deodex a rom yourself. If you have the android sdk installed already it is not much work to do. Just follow the instructions and read through the thread for problems that may pop up.
[Droid 2 Android Development] 640k:
apparently you don't get it.

you're not reading what i'm asking. there are ROM devs out now, doing the work. they can debloat and use as many stock apps as possible (or as available). i'm not asking for miracles. i'm asking devs not to customize what they're doing.

i'm asking for standard looks, not black themes. i'm asking for stock apps, where possible. i'm asking for it to work.

don't come in here and thread crap because you don't understand what i'm saying/asking.
[Droid 2 Android Development] jerseyh22accord:
I know, i did it before i ran 928droid's theme and epic's rom to change the text to white in the notification bar. Lost it when i restored my nandroid of stock but i could do it again. Just saying if i flash a rom i want it deoxed
[Droid 2 Android Development] Matt4542:
I am working on this. Please just wait.
[Droid 2 Android Development] Terri M:
Newbie here. I have rooted my D2, but I haven't yet installed a new ROM. Is there any way that I can use a D1 ROM in my D2?
[Droid 2 Android Development] karnovaran:
Maybe I (and others) misinterpreted, but you said stock and vanilla multiple times.

Sorry, but I just don't take well to people starting threads like this. Either do the work yourself, contact a developer directly to inquire about their intentions, or sit tight and wait. It's this kind of "gimme" attitude in forums that scares away talented people.
[Droid 2 Android Development] computerdating:
What the hell? Do it yourself. Are you really acting like this because you don't like black notification bars? If it upsets you so much, learn how to change it. Requests are fine. Acting indignant because you don't know what "I want a vanilla ROM" means is rude.
[Droid 2 Android Development] 640k:
frankly, i'm quite surprised this turned into the flame war it did. this isn't a thread to *****. in fact, i thanked and complimented the people who do the work.

this IS a forum and forums are for discussions, which was the intent of this thread.
[Droid 2 Android Development] scsione889:
Sounds good to me :D
[Droid 2 Android Development] Terri M:
Matt, believe me when I say I will wait for you. I loved my D1 and just wish I could have it on my D2. With the exception of the black notification bar, your Epic 2.5 is getting very close to what I am wanting. Thank you for all the hard work you're doing!
[Droid 2 Android Development] Matt4542:
Okay this poster is a TOTAL douche bag. I have been working my ASS off to get you a vanilla rom. It is hard as hell because I am missing certain things and I dont have the vendorsetup. These tweaked roms are the best we can do for now. Think before you post you ungrateful ass. I have been working on it just be patient. You would build the rom yourself but you rely on us? Well **** that if I see anymore of this bull**** on ANY ****ING forum I am done with my rom development.
[Droid 2 Android Development] Matt4542:
Your welcome :) Seeing posts like this make my day.
[Droid 2 Android Development] eleventy:
Frankly, if this is how you respond, it's probably better for you to give up the ROM cooking anyway.

The OP was perhaps a bit out of line, but the rest of you certainly turned this thread into a crapstorm. Examples of more appropriate responses are "Thanks for the suggestion," or "Thanks, but that's not where I'd like to take my work."
[Droid 2 Android Development] metman87:
if someone bashed the stuff you did for free, maybe you'd respond that way too. but way to tell off a great rom developer for being passionate about his work. after 18 posts you really must know what you're talking about. ****.
[Droid 2 Android Development] KalenXI:
Saying that you appreciate the work that people are doing but would like something different is hardly bashing what they've done. The OP was polite and made a reasonable request (though the clarification came off as a bit much) Granted that request has already been asked for quite a bit and so is somewhat redundant, but in any case it wasn't bashing the work that had been done.
[Droid 2 Android Development] Matt4542:
He specifically said that he would not use "black bar modified roms" What I get out of this is that my rom means nothing and that all that people want it a AOSP rom.
[Droid 2 Android Development] eleventy:
I will point out some logical fallacies in the quoted text:

Straw man argument #1: "if someone bashed the stuff you did for free, maybe you'd respond that way too". Nobody bashed his work, and for that matter, once donations are solicited, the work is no longer free.

Straw man argument #2: "way to tell off a great rom developer for being passionate about his work". My statement cited not passion, but a lack of professionalism, as evidenced by the writer's use of coarse language and personal attacks.

Argument from accomplishment, inverse: "after 18 posts you really must know what you're talking about" Post count in a single internet forum surely does not correlate with overall reading comprehension, etiquette, and interpersonal skills, which were the subjects I was talking about.

Name-calling: "****"

You may now resume your meaningless internet drama. Glad to have been a part of it.
[Droid 2 Android Development] metman87:
EDITED: i can't even...whatever dude.
[Droid 2 Android Development] Hashbaz:
This thread has made my jaw drop, I can barely even tell what's going on with all the double talk....lol

Thanks matt! And all other devs. Even though I always thought donations we're voluntary and not due wages ;) I still really appreciate the work you do. Especially how much has been done on such a young device.
[Droid 2 Android Development] facelessuser:
I just wish people could remember that people do this as a hobby. They are modding because it is fun. These modders/devs are going to take some artistic licenses because they are not just doing this for the people on this forum, but for themselves. Most do it for themselves and share it. Sure, they may take requests, but usually as long as it fits with their vision.

Be happy that people are sharing their work (work in their free time) with you. If you don't like it, fix it; if you can't fix it, learn; if you can't learn, you're just going to have to settle for what's available.

I just want to thank everyone who has worked so hard to make these Android phones, better, different, and more fun. I have been modding phones since I got my first crappy Nokia, which still works by the way. I have appreciated the hard work people have and do put into these Android phones.

I like the fact we have so many curious people who are willing to void their warranties just because it is fun. We really are in the age of the geek.
[Droid 2 Android Development] karnovaran:
Ha, looks like somebody is enrolled in Philosophy 201 this semester.

I think the bottom line is 640k should not have made any references to the work others have already done. Poor judgement.
[Droid 2 Android Development] metman87:
lol that was the gist of my comment before i made the edit cuz mine was wayy nastier. guaranteed he prints out this thread to give to the prof for extra credit. that crap is all from a 100 level philosophy class too.
[Droid 2 Android Development] facelessuser:
lol. Yeah, it really did come out cheesier on second read, but whatever. Just wanted to say something positive. Well past school days though.
[Droid 2 Android Development] karnovaran:
Sorry, I wasn't referring to you but rather eleventy a few posts above.
[Droid 2 Android Development] facelessuser:
It makes so much more sense now. No biggie either way; I don't ruffle easy.
[Droid 2 Android Development] gtrab:
A "ROM" is a chef's taste, mood, and best personal effort with the available resources.

You like it ?? - Just let'em work and enjoy, then say "thanks" because it's VERY hard

You don't like it ?? - Try another, or make a *kind* suggestion, or even better: try learning here how to make your own.

It's all about xda-devs' spirit:

Your personal choice of free knowledge/learning,

or free things to try from other's acquired knowledge.

Simple.

---

Respect, share, and have fun
[Epic 4G General] Zurginator:
I'm trying to install Metamorph (and hopefully reskin the entire phone), however, each time I download it, the market crashes when it tries to install.

Any ideas?

Update: This occurs on any app that I try to install.
[Epic 4G General] Kcarpenter:
Clear your market cache:

Settings > Applications > Android Market > Clear Cache
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brpqzme:
hey guys

is it possible to use the pinky 1.8 rom without an ext partition on the sd card? whenever i try to boot without an sd card, or using an sd with no partition, it just hands on the white htc boot screen
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] newyorkmafia:
hi guyz

ive installed a cooked rom from paradox which is great but there are lots of software in it that i dont need

i couldnt find them in remove programs in settings menu so how do i uninstall preloaded software that came installed with the ROM
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] madbettt:
u CAN NOT DO IT. ITs impossible :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] denco7:
Actually you can just edit the NBH file and take out what you don't want and just reflash it with THIS

Seems like a lot of work just for a couple of apps, unless you are desperate for space.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ChumleyEX:
Dencooooooo!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] brookssw:
I got carried away there, so I'll summarize:

Yesterday most of the apps on my phone started crashing. I tried clearing from recovery mode, but nothing went away. Today, I've tried to reflash to stock to get the phone completely clean, but also no good. Even using master clear and reflashing the rom doesn't clear the phone out. Everyone says it works, but the applications are all still there after the reboot, except now they all crash, including launcherpro, leaving me no way to do anything at all on the phone

I'm desperate because my phone is currently unusable. Please help!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] brookssw:
Update: I found another method for doing it, listed below, which worked. Still no data though :(

Anyone have any ideas what might have happened/how I can fix?

2.- :::: CAPTIVATE HARD RESET :::

captivate must be powered OFF to perform this reset, If the device is on, turn it off

- Press and hold both volume buttons + -

- While holding down volume buttons + -, press the power button while maintaining the volume buttons pressed in for around 5 seconds

- Release volume buttons but, keep the power button pressed

- you'll see at&t start up animation release power button

- menu appears

- follow instructions using volume buttons

delete cache data, press power

delete all user data, press power

reboot system, press power

*** (optional) turn off the phone, put my sim card back, turn the phone on
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] brookssw:
Holy crap... I don't know what's wrong now... I did "Delete user data" and "delete cache" from the boot menu, and STILL everything is there!

What is wrong with my phone? :(
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] brookssw:
reflashing to stock... hopefully this does the trick...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] brookssw:
ok I went through the process of flashing to stock, and it said it worked, but the old applications are still there!

Now, when I reboot, I get a ton of force close messages; presumably everything that normally would be launching on startup.

how do I actually clear this device and get it back to stock?!

for reference, here's the page I used:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=731989
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] seps1816:
I having the same exact problem where I tried to flash back and I have all these process error message thats dont let me do anything really need some help on this one been at it for hours
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] brookssw:
Hey there,

I'm afraid this won't help much, but in the end I had to call the AT&T warranty department and get a replacement phone. There's a 1 year on the phone, and while I had to jump through some hoops, they did replace it. If you're within 30 days then you're definitely in luck, as you can take it back to the store you bought it at

Good luck!
[EVO 4G General] Liamfm:
Does anyone know where I can find a micro hdmi cable that outputs to component video and with analog audio or coax, or optical? Basically I am looking to hook my evo up to my receiver but I don't have hdmi. I have component, composite, and that's it. It was built just before hdmi.

Thanks.
[EVO 4G General] sitlet:
There is NO cable to go from HDMI to anything other than DVI. HDMI is a digital copy protected format, you cannot just use a cable to go to analog. Be aware, if you google "hdmi to component" you will find those cables, but they will NOT work. Those are video card specific cables, for video cards that actually output analog video using the hdmi connector. So they will not work for anything other than that specific video card.

You would need something like this:

http://www.hdtvsupply.com/hdmi-to-rgb.html

They cost 150 bucks. Not cheap.
[EVO 4G General] Liamfm:
Cool, thanks. Wish my receiver had hdmi :(
[EVO 4G General] sitlet:
Does your tv have an hdmi input?
[EVO 4G General] Nutzy:
Do you read? OP already said he doesn't have hdmi.
[EVO 4G General] Tibedabeeto:
Damn, I was going to buy a cable like that to use for my car DVD player. Now I gotta figure out if 150 plus a cable is worth it.. hmmmmm??? Thanks for that knowledge though didnt know the intricacies to the conversion.
[EVO 4G General] Rakeesh_j:
Cheaper:

http://www.amazon.com/HDMI-Ypbpr-Component-RGB-Converter/dp/B002SFT3ZI

$40. There's another one for $50 too.
[myTouch 3G Slide General] ab0m:
Hey everyone. My phone mounts find on the PC, just as all my others have, but it won't mount for my headunit, just charging from it. No sign of usb on either end, headunit nor device.

I've mounted my G1, N1 & MT3G on this headunit, wonder why the slide won't work? It's the same SD card in all of them. Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks!
[myTouch 3G Slide General] beartard:
You say it's the same SD card. Is is the same exact card, or another card of the same model? Are all your cards formatted and partitioned exactly the same? I know some car headunits will only detect the first partition (which is an unreadable ext partition on some cases).
[myTouch 3G Slide General] ab0m:
It's the exact same card, the phone doesn't even detect what it's connected to.
[myTouch 3G Slide General] stoneyjonez:
You don't even get the USB storage notification? What ROM, if any, are you using?
[myTouch 3G Slide General] stoneyjonez:
Try the Auto Mount USB app from the market. I couldn't mount my phone on my head unit without it, unless I go back to Espresso (no problems there).
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] skyleth:
Any posibility to decrypt the branded rom like in the x10? just in case we need it to reflash the phone
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] husq510:
somebody tried to start kernel inside qemu-arm ? or I do I run my own kernel inside emulator ? emulator -kernel switch seems not working..

seems emulator run on virtual CPU only (goldfish)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pierre144:
I will also like to run Windows 95 but it does not work on the galaxy while walking correctly on the nexus one.
[Windows Mobile] NCTP2:
Is there a list anywhere that explains what each package in a rom does exactly? Sprint TP2 specifically.

For example: Im having some folders getting written into start menu that I dont want there. They arent from packages Ive added but from stock packages. Is there any easy way to delete these entries without going thru every package.

Better example: I removed Windows Live. Now I have an empty Outlook folder in start menu.I want to delete it from rom.

TIA.
[Windows Mobile] TMartin:
Pretty good place to start.

Link

& One more Link
[Windows Mobile] mwalt2:
Use Agent Ransack to search your kitchen for files containing "Outlook.lnk". You will find it in an initflashes.txt/app.dat or initflashes.dat. Then just delete the line making the folder using a text editor. Agent Ransack can search all files for whatever text you are searching for, which is a useful tool for your kitchen. I can't remember where the outlook.lnk comes from, but I know sense 2.5.2018 has a manila file that makes a couple shortcuts too. In that case, you'll have to edit the manila file (should still show up in agent ransack in my experience). Here is a list of packages and what they do, though it's not 100% complete.
[Windows Mobile] NCTP2:
Awesome.

The links and the app are exactly what I needed.

Thanks guys. Should definitely speed up the (learning) process. :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] luckyvictor:
Hi all

I have successfully installed Android (SuperFroyo RC2) on my HTC diamond, and this is my first time to use this system.

I wonder where do I store my files in this Android? is there anything like file explorer of Windows in Android?

and also, am I able to change the theme and icons of this Android please? any tutorial? and any website of the resources please?

Many thanks in advance!!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] jpavly:
How's the speed on your Diamond?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] luckyvictor:
I would say smooth, not extremely fast, but acceptable, no lag
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] windshearx:
Hi patrioti, I have the same version installed in my diamond and the speed is really good. Still problems with battery and calls that never show up in your device
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] luckyvictor:
hi, do you know the answers of my thread please?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] imrock:
1) Try using the android market and search for estrong file manager (gives you bluetooth file transfer), astro file manager, OI file manager....

2) Search for ADW, install the app and then the themes

Hope it helps:p:p
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] luckyvictor:
I think the Android I am using (SuperFroyo RC2) have already got ADW launcher installed, if so, how can I confirm it please? and the themes, do they have to be in special format please?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rajennn:
hi there i rooted my phone to cyanogen mod 6 using the clockworkmod and rom manager on my nexus one. now i would like to unroot it and put it back to android 2.2 in its original state. i have searched how to but get different answers. right now my bootloader is locked and i would like to keep it that way. anyone know how to unroot in a simple way? thanks in advance
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evilkorn:
Dev section > click on the wiki that is stickied.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lpguy:
Hi,

is there any way how to disable auto-detection of numbers in SMS's text, making them inactive and non-underlined? This feature is quite wild and inaccurate :( e.g. I received a message with date and time like "16.05.10 12:45" and "16.05.2010 12" got underlined and behaves like a phone number 16051012 :mad: Or even short numbers of 5 digits gets underlined.

Is it possible to disable it?

Thanks for any advice