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[Captivate General] RexEscape:
Still not working. I've downloaded the new Google Maps and it does say that some cell towers aren't actively sending or receiving MyLocation data. It wants us to use GPS or WiFi for a more accurate MyLocation position. Bleh.
[HTC Aria Themes and Apps] firestonetech32:
I am trying to get rid of Amazon mp3 and i cant get rid of it i tried using android commander and astro and free advanced task killer and it will not go away. Also does anyone have a better free task killer than what i am using. they updated free advanced task killer and now it sucks. any help would be appreciated.

Skippy
[HTC Aria Themes and Apps] bkmo:
The phone is still nand locked. It is only unlocked in recovery. You will have to remove the apk's via adb in recovery. Also task killers are highly discouraged on Froyo roms.
[HTC Aria Themes and Apps] firestonetech32:
i tried everything to remove it in recovery using adb and no luck any suggestions?
[HTC Aria Themes and Apps] bkmo:
If you have clockwork recovery installed, then goto partitions and mount /system.

Then you can ADB in and rm the .apks you don't want.
[HTC Aria Themes and Apps] Cinderous:
You also shouldn't boot into recovery with the USB plugged in. Boot into recovery THEN plug it in, or you'll get directory not empty errors.
[HTC Aria Themes and Apps] firestonetech32:
i get the error (/sbin/sh: pm: not found) when i type in (adb uninstall com.amazon.mp3 or adb uninstall com.amazon.mp3.apk) and i rebooted into recovery without the usb plugged in and mounted the system file in partitions menu
[HTC Aria Themes and Apps] bkmo:
Don't try to uninstall the apk's, just adb shell rm /system/app/apkname.apk, or navigate to /system/app and rm apkname.apk
[HTC Aria Themes and Apps] anika200:
This is a problem with the path variable in the CM6 roms. See my thread here. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=780860

Short story, change the path in init.rc in order to use uninstall or install or just use the rm command as stated above (probably the easiest). I corrected the path on my rom as it seems to me it should include /system/bin which is where the "pm" command is located.
[HTC Aria Themes and Apps] cyberblue:
if by any chance you downloaded the app from the market, you can uninstall it from the market app by going to the download page & choose uninstall.
[HTC Aria Themes and Apps] eljefe27:
Just download winzip open the gapps zip on your computer delete the Amazon API from within winzip then place on your sd card then flash the new gapps in clockwork
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sike222:
Hi guys i know this is a boring question but...........

I have a hd2 and have no plans on changing it yet. However, my sister is now after an upgrade and pestering me to tell her what to get. She loves my phone but if she gets it i am the one who will need to spend hours/days upgrading it for her. So i told her to go with android and await the new desire hd.

BUT now it has been announced i am left rather underwhelmed. She has always had a Samsung so do you guys think there is any real benefit waiting for the new desire and probably paying a premium or is there no real advantage to this?

I know the galaxy has issues with its gps but other than the screen being smaller (it is amoled though) the rest of the specs seem pretty comparable or am i missing something here?

Sorry for the dumb question but any advice would be greatly appreciated.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Super Galaxy S:
Samsung Galaxy S is awesome. I feel cool with Galaxy S.

Go with Samsung Galaxy S.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hoss_n2:
nothing is more advanced than htc sense , go with htc sense
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pkoper:
The snapdragon doesn't really come close to samsungs hummingbird processor. A bit surprised HTC didn't release it with a dual core/wait till one is available. So when Samsung release the Orion CPU later this year and Qualcomm their dual cores you'll have a rather slow phone.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tolis626:
What would you expect from a user whose name is Super Galaxy S? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Anyway,go for the Desire HD dude.With the technology it's built I'm sure it will prove more than trouble for the competition!

And while being 75% sure I can tell you that it will carry Qualcomm's new chip,built with a 45nm process and more powerful graphics chip.Plus,as hoss_n2 said,nothing comes close to Sense! ;)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mwxiao:
Galaxy S wins a tad by hardware, but HTC wins by everything else: design, software and user experience.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HelloH:
Huuuuhhhhhhh????????????????????????????

As far as I know:

It's a 45nm brand new QSD8255 that sucks less power, gives off less heat, therefore has the potential to operate at faster average speeds than the older one. It also has a new integrated GPU!

And... even the old CPU (but not the GPU!) in snapdragon was FASTER than the Hummingbird's CPU...
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HelloH:
If your sis can bear the HD's size, then go for the HTC!!! Google optimized the Android platform for the snapdragons!!! However, the HD might be a bit too bulky for girl... if she is texting alot, she might consider the Desire-Z.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Scotchy49:
Well, hardware-wise the Hummingbird is by far faster than the Snapdragon MSM8250, no doubt about it. Hummingbird was getting 2200-2300 quadrant while desire is stuck at ~1300. And SGS's got like 55fps on Neocore whereas Desire is barely at 27fps.

Nah, HTC was definitely not in front of Samsung for the last generation of Android phones and is just now catching up with the Desire HD. We don't even know what this phone's real power is actually, we can only speculate. Let's see the first few benchmarks when the phone goes live before saying X or Y is best.

And actually, if I had to chose a phone right now between SGS and an unknown phone (htc desire hd, performance-wise), I would definitely go with the SGS which is proven to be good.

On the user experience part, yeah, HTC Sense is good. ALso the map caching stuff looks promising even if sluggish. We'll have to see.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danamoult:
I have an SGS. Out of the box, it had its problems - general lag, gps problems, etc. With some (little) tinkering however, I have managed to fix the lag problems and the phone now flies. However if your sister or you feel reluctant to risk anything happening to the phone, a phone that works near-perfectly out of the box is probably for you. I can tell you that the SGS does not work at all perfectly out of the box (even though it can be fixed) but the Desire HD, from HTC's past history, will probably work very well.

Although the Desire HD's screen is bigger by .3 inches, you have to consider - is that comfortable anymore? As this article shows, bigger screens don't always mean you can see more. To me personally, my SGS's screen at 4 inches is already the maximum a screen should be without it becoming uncomfortable for general use. Of course, your sister might have large hands (who knows) and this may not be an issue for her.

If your sister enjoys watching movies on her phone, she should consider the following: a 4.3" LCD screen compared to a 4" Super-AMOLED screen. The Desire HD's screen may be larger, but the Super-AMOLED screen is simply magnificent. The colours are vibrant and beautiful, something an LCD screen cannot reproduce. To truly appreciate the greatness of a Super-AMOLED screen you have to try it for yourself.

If your sister uses the GPS often, she's probably better off getting the Desire HD. Sadly, the SGS's GPS is extremely faulty, and is increasingly unlikely to ever get fixed.

When it comes to the CPU and Graphics card etc, I cannot compare them without trying the Desire HD. However I can tell you that the SGS seems to be more than adequate for everything I've thrown at it (after applying the simple lagfix, of course).

In terms of build... Some people may not like how light the SGS is, but I love it. Besides, a simple plastic case makes it feel sturdier already. However if your sister likes the sturdiness of your HD2, she is probably better off with a Desire HD.

Of course everything here can be ignored if she prefers having a QWERTY keyboard - just get the Desire Z then!

If you need any more information on the SGS, just send me a PM. :)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HelloH:
Please do not quote Quadrant (total) scores, as it is a fatally flawed benchmark. Cyanogen demonstrated that. Do you research before posting.

And that Neocore score... I clearly stated that the Desire HD has a different GPU than the old Desire.

Please do your research, before you post such questionable stuff.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Scotchy49:
I'm not the one that was claiming that the Desire is faster than the SGS huh ?

I'm not just going to let you say false things. And asking to do research doesn't give you any more credit than you had previously.

Anyways, for the OP: go with the samsung if you want a great phone. Go with the HTC if you want a quality phone.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HelloH:
Well, if you do your research, you might find out that Android runs faster on Desire (excluding GPU intensive task, AS I ALREADY MENTIONED). You might also realize, that Quadrant total scores are not to be trusted. You might also read a word or two, about the new Adreno 205 GPU, and the faster memory that Desire HD has.

You are entitled your opinion.

I do not feel the need to defend snap, or attack hummingbird.

Other members probably already noticed your flaming attitude, and ignorant arguments "supported" by Quadrant scores, "mistaking" CPU performace for GPU performance, "forgetting" about the Linpack results, and so on.

Have it your way, you can have your last words :) I quit this pointless dispute.

Long live the SgS with its faulty GPS, unoptimized JIT, "Samsung grade" development support! And long live it's lightness, great screen!

Long live Desire HD with it's yet unknown, but surely existing loads of glitches as well :) And long live it's superior CPU performance over the Hummingbird! And long live it's new GPU, yet to be proven worthy!!!!
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sike222:
wow guys! All i can say is thanks for all the replies i wondered if i would get one!

Well not too sure if i read all this correct so let me check?

Ok (i know alot of this may be speculation as it was only announced today) so are we happy that the desire will have a better processor/spec than the galaxy?

HelloH you said the desire will have the new processor which will give off less heat and demand less power? Is that definite? If so that is a huge plus for the desire. I wonder what capacity the battery will have? This could, also coupled with a less hungry processor, lead to far greater battery time?

hoss_n2 you commented on sense, and on windows it is a must, but with android is it still that relevant?

danamoult you mentioned the amoled screen and i must admit i wanted one of those. How does the screen perform in daylight? She does not require a qwerty keyboard so we are cool on that. I must admit when i looked at the galaxy i was surprised by the 'feel' of the phone it did feel a tad plasticy and it reminded me alot of the iphone 3gs (not a complaint simply an observation) are all the issues with the phone solved by this site (other than the gps?) thanks for the pm offer if she gets this phone i will take you up on that!

kgk888 that is interesting that you have tried both the old desire and new galaxy. If someone offered you only one of those two phones which would you now choose? also you comment on the software/firmware are those flashable/changeable by the mods on this site? Especially upgrading to newer android versions. Lastly knowing what you know now would you choose the new desire hd or the galaxy?

Thanks again for all the replies. I luv this site.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hoss_n2:
windows sense and android sense both have same main features but android sense is much more faster and more customizable than windows ,
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sike222:
Thanks, again. I did try a couple of android ports on my hd2 and the homescreen seemed quite customizable on the different ports i tried. Is android able to be 'tweaked' to offer the same sense feel? Obviously an out of the box solution is preferable.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Toss3:
The snapdragon is not faster than the hummingbird in any way or form.

HelloH once again proves his infinite wit here as the Hummingbird is already at 45nm so it's a tie here.

Yes, but the 1230mah battery of the Desire HD is still less than that of the SGS' 1500mah one and with a 4.3 inch screen I doubt the battery-life is going to be great.

hoss_n2 already took care of this.

I was surprised at the weight myself when I first tried out the SGS, but now that I've gotten used to it I actually think I prefer it to carrying a heavy brick around(had a HD2 before).

The samoled screen does great in sunlight(albeit probably a little worse than the SLCD of the Desire HD, but it does a lot better in darker environments). :)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bilboa1:
snapdragon is faster no doubt. galaxy s software sucks too. with community fixes its quite fine however.

the weight size samoled and camera are cool. i think theyre both cool. might take a desire due to sw support tho. ive a sgs.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kylez64:
I would say go for an HSPA+ handset if your in that area. Looking forward for the keyboard also, thats the main thing I miss from my G1. Plus Cyan is getting one so i'm sold lol.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Beards:
The GPS & Lag should 'hopefully' be fixed in the update hitting the streets now and next week.

As to the Hummingbird v Snapdragon it being a myth and one is better than the other, I don't want to start any war cries here but I do get annoyed when members say "this is better than that" without showing any proof.

I would do exactly the same if it were the other way around... and if you are wondering, yes I do own an SGS and yes, I shall also be getting an DHD, so I am not biased in any form.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kingcedz:
galaxy s was the flagship device..a few month ago..

DesireHD is the flagship device for the next few month..

I think the choice is obvious.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johcos:
I've run quadrant on both hd2 and sgs and I saw that in cpu tests the hd2 was better than the sgs. (hd2 has a worse cpu than desire hd)

As for the problems of the sgs I'm running now the official froyo rom from samsung (jp6) and I can assure you that even though the phone works a little better none of the problems got really fixed
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johcos:
+1
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Smartmob:
Ok, i saw some official benchmarks of Galaxy S Froyo and Desire HD Froyo without any hacks or modds...official and clean:

Quadrant Standard banchmark of official ROMs are:

Samsung Galaxy S 2.2 = 1050 (before with 2.1 it was 850)

HTC Desire HD 2.2 = 1950

Ok, in benchmarks Desire is a big winner. Now there are two more questions about Galaxy S:

1. Those it fix lag issues

2. Is GPS problems fixed

As I saw, some of them said it doesnt fix lag..gps is better, and speed, but lag is still there...

EDIT: Ok, more and more people are saying that lag and GPS problem are NOT FIXED.

So, my choice now is Desire HD. :)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] koba:
nobody needs a phone that you don't hear because the sound is to low, i dont want always headphones in my ear :-( i wait but maby i buying the sgs.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vasra:
Problems with Galaxy S:

- RFS file system used by Samsung causes bad lag (watching a blank black screen for 3-5 secs between actions at times)

- GPS fix / accuracy issues on *some* units: takes a long time to get fix, too few satellites and the accuracy can be off up to 150 meters (very bad accuracy)

- non-optimized OS responsiveness compared to HTC/Snapdragon units (may be related to RFS issue)

There are some 3rd party unofficial fixes for the above, esp. the RFS lag issue and they do alleviate the issues, but do not completely solve them. On some units the GPS issue remains completely unsolved (not even the Froyo updates fix these).

I'd buy HTC Desired HD myself and I am a Galaxy S user.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Milali:
The frustrating part

is the wait... No mention of release date, price, etc etc

so annoying, it makes ya just wanna go out and get the samsung.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kinglee:
So true..... I was almost getting the Samsung... I'm still waiting in HK.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chad_Petree:
desire hd ! the galaxy has that horrible lag because of the rfs filesystem :mad:
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rixsta:
I fixed all my galaxy s problems in 1 day...I sold it and expecting my desire hd tomorrow...cant wait.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chad_Petree:
such a shame the galaxy s screen is just BEAUTIFUL
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johcos:
HD2 (supposed lesser) with desire hd rom has a 2646 CPU score in quadrant when SGS gives only 1457.

EDIT

Tested with desire froyo rom and the cpu score is 4122 that's nearly 4 times more than SGS

If you use quadrant advanced you'll see that the overall high score of SGS comes mostly from the file system. (if you use lagfix)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tbela:
Hello Everyone!

I've both of the SGS & DHD. I bought SGS 2 monthes ago, and I have been happy with it until the last week. I have handled it carefully with protector film on the screen and kept in a silicon case. Without any serious impact or dropping the screen was broken close to the middle button. So SGS owners: be very careful! I choose DHD because of its robustness and metal casing. So I have been using DHD only for some days.

The two device are really close to each other, both of them are great so you must choose based on your individual preferences.

Sense is not a significant extra for me, I was happy with TW + ADW launcher also on SGS.

I like SGS SAMOLED a bit better than DHD SLCD. Colors of SGS are beautiful. Yes, over-saturated, but I like it.

DHDs size is a bit over my taste, SGS size and weight are more acceptable. The adverse consequence is the poor plastic casing and weak physical robustness.The difference is similar when you compare a real business notebook to a consumer one.

I bought a new screen for SGS on ebay, I hope I'll get it next week and SGS will be repaired. I am really curious, which one will stay my primary device. Frankly: at the moment I do not know.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Beards:
I found this very interesting for a number of reasons.

1. There were a spate of Gorilla glass screens that have failed. Maybe you had one such fitted.

2. My SGS has over the past few months two 'major' accidents.

The first was when it went flying across a kitchen worksurface onto a stone floor.

The second was when whilst driving I turned hard right onto my drive and the phone slid across the dashboard and out of the passenger window and bounced quite a few times on my drive.

For both of these occasions there's not a mark on either the screen or case.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] who knows:
ive tried both SGS and DHD, there both awesome phones though it all comes down to what you want, example my gf and 3 of my friends have SGS and get annoyed with lag but they dont have a clue about lag fixs, custom roms ect.. they just want a phone to work, the SGS camera and video are actually amazing the quality on the 720p video is amazing though the DHD is quite honestly terrible my old nokia n95 shoots better. still DHD is a great phone its really hard to debate which one is better and there near enough the same price in the uk on contract
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Beards:
Yes, I have an SGS and managed to 'play' with an DHD the other day for an hour.

I've come to a similar conclusion in that there are certain aspects which merit an award for each phone and similar both have pick-up points.

Now if only there were just one phone that had the essence of each phone built in to one.... Now that I would love to see.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bilboa1:
Thats basically what I tell all my friends atm:

- you like to hack around a bit and willing to fix the phone software issues, also like it light and a great screen, decent camera => sgs

- you just want it to work as expected out of the box and don't care so much for the hardware differences => dhd

they're all happy so far! (and its been more sgs sold than dhd's by the way - but many are pretty geeky of course)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kinglee:
After a lot of comparison between SGS, Desire and Desire HD(after it was released). I had came down to SGS. I have the feeling that DHD was release to compete against SGS.

Totally No regret. I love the screen, weight and speed(yes speed).

The breakthrough in the ROM cooking (namely Doc's Doc_Kalpik Froyo JP6/JPM v6, XWJPA/XXJPO v7) has a very lag free and all rounder.

I can confidently say that my SGS is free from the woes that plagued some users. Once on this ROM there is little to worry about. I was worried before but now I'm flying with my SGS.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johcos:
It seems to me my friend that you don't own a dhd and you compare it with what you've seen in the net or in stores.

sgs came out to compete with iphone (that's why it's nearly the same).

dhd doesn't have to prove anything it's simply the next high end device from HTC.

Another thing about the sgs is that it's real problem it's not the lag as it's fixed by the xda community. It's real problems for me (apart from the ugly iphone interface) are the gps which in some situations is completely useless and the camera which takes the worst pictures I've ever seen (I'm ashamed to show them to anyone or even use them as a wallpaper)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rixsta:
Oh Beards that cracked me up...man I would have loved to have seen that...you sound like a guy that would be fun to go to the pub with hahaha

I have owned both phones and still have the pictures from my SGS, let me tell you that the SGS camera takes far better pictures and video's for that matter than the Desire HD....The SGS has a great camera, even without the flash..
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] boarne71:
I loved my sgs 16gig,but I gave it away and bought a dhd and im very happy now.

Sgs to much like iphone for me,to strong colors looked so wrong,to light weight, bad camera. Hated kies. After rooted and lagfix etc,the phone worked ok.

Dhd only drawback is not the strongest speakers,but they give a very detailed sound. Great sound with good earphones. A nice screen with perfect natural colors. A wonderful feeling holding this phone. A real good camera,probably the best yet for any mobile phone.

I wont go back to sgs again.

Edit: I have really tried the camera on the sgs, even if its real good and works well without a flash, it cant at all be compared to the fantastic camera on the dhd, almost like night and day difference.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johcos:
I've already ordered my dhd and waiting for delivery maybe in a week or so. When i get it I'll post my comparison.

If the camera is nearly as the hd2's camera which is 5mp then it will certainly take better pictures. Sgs pictures are too noisy, hd2's are alot clearer. I'm not talking about the video for 2 reasons: one is that sgs captures great videos and the other one is that i don't really use my phone to capture videos.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rixsta:
I only say this as the Desire HD camera indoors goes from light to dark all the time...very bad exposure, Ive tried everything to stop it doing this...maube its just me...or maybe I have a faulty one but its very annoying when Im trying to take a picture..