yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G2 and Desire Z General] skulk3r:
a lot of the performance gain is from the Adreno 205 GPU as opposed to the older Adreno 200 GPUs on the Desire, HD2 and Evo. The Desire HD, however, also has the Adreno 205.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Arcadia310:
Not really sure if that equates to better performance, but it is more efficient.

If you think about it, past 1st gen snapdragon phones had very poor GPUs which made the CPU look slower. Maybe the upgraded GPU adds speed to an otherwise speedy CPU.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Superfrag:
That could be true. Maybe the GPU in earlier Snapdragons was bottlenecking the CPU. Makes sense.. I also think these can be OC'ed more without issues due to the 45nm architecture.
[G2 and Desire Z General] mtl171:
but will the 1300mah battery life survive?
[G2 and Desire Z General] Superfrag:
I think it should be better. The shrinkage in die size results in a more efficient CPU, which emits less heat and consumes less power. If it was 1500mAh it would have been super, but I think 1300 mAh will be pretty good.

Maybe, just maybe HTC might release 1500 batteries, which will be sold separately. Or we might have to turn to aftermarket battery makers to satisfy our needs! :P (obviously not the extended version, same size but higher mAh)
[G2 and Desire Z General] Arcadia310:
I've heard that the MSM7x30 is actually the new 1Ghz Snapdragon underclocked at 800Mhz. Apparently that info is on the qualcomm website somewhere. If true then hell yeah the CPU can be overclocked, at the expense of battery power though.
[G2 and Desire Z General] kalipedia:
The video on youtube titled "htc desire z - a closer look" is pretty amazing (i can't post links as i'm too new to this site). i'm just wondering how much is sense and how much will be on the g2...
[G2 and Desire Z General] dualityim:
Notice that those specs specifically mention that the CPU is 2x faster and the GPU is 5x faster, so when they say the CPU is 2x faster, they are not talking about the performance boost gained from using the Adreno 205, they are specifically referring to a faster CPU core. That's what I'm wondering about, the GPU is faster for sure, but all evidence points to a CPU that performs the same (or worse, due to the 200MHz slower clock) but shrunk to 45nm for better power efficiency.
[G2 and Desire Z General] sheek360:
You guys think the g2 will get dlna functions?
[G2 and Desire Z General] Superfrag:
We don't know. AFAIK, the Desire Z doesn't have DLNA, nor does the Desire HD. All we can do is wait for it to be released, or reviews of it to come out.
[G2 and Desire Z General] gee one:
The Desire Z seems to have DLNA, according to HTC. It's around 4 mins into the promo video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ly4C0TXmnlQ
[G2 and Desire Z General] j.books:
ppl... clock speed is like horsepwoer in a car. its not the only determinant of performance. other stuff matters in a car right? like aerodynamics, weight, transmission etc? same for a chip. engineering matters. 2nd gen snapdragons are 2nd gen for a reason... they're better
[G2 and Desire Z General] diversificationied:
Probably not. I don't see t-mobile digging into their pockets for that.
[G2 and Desire Z General] dualityim:
You don't understand, Snapdragon is not a chip, it's a chipset or SoC. The CPU in Snapdragon is called Scorpion, and the G2 supposedly uses the same CPU, except manufactured in a 45nm process rather than a 65nm process. So except for the clock speed, we shouldn't expect any changes in the performance of the CPU.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Arcadia310:
What is DLNA?
[G2 and Desire Z General] ThaGeNeCySt:
If my interpretation from the promo video is correct... DLNA is wireless media streaming from DLNA capable handsets to TV's that support DLNA so you can stream vids, pictures, etc from phone to TV (and i think vice versa?). If your TV doesn't support it, you can buy the HTC Media Link
[G2 and Desire Z General] Falen:
G2 = gutted Desire Z

So, the G2 is just a gutted version of the HTC Desire Z?

If so, how compatible would the DZ be on T-Mobile USA? 3.5G?
[G2 and Desire Z General] Falen:
Just found this:

Desire Z:

* HSPA/WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz

* GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz

G2

* HSDPA 1700/2100

* GSM 850/900/1800/1900

Does this mean that if I were to buy and try to use the Desire Z in the US, I would not be able to get 3.5G?
[G2 and Desire Z General] :
Hardware wise they are the same, dlna is part of htc sense feautre set inclusion. Compare the nexus and desire, this is the same setup.
[G2 and Desire Z General] j.books:
I could be wrong but since they have the same exact chip, they should have the same frequency computability. the only question would be if the phone is locked by the carrier you buy it from. t-mobile USA will lock the phone but I don't know about the european carriers
[G2 and Desire Z General] Falen:
G2 vs Desire Z

Specs Complied from gsmarena

T-Mobile G2	HTC Desire Z
===========	============
General	2G Network	GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900	GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network	HSDPA 1700 / 2100	HSDPA 1900 / 2100
Announced	2010, September	2010, September
Status	Coming soon. Exp. release 2010, September	Coming soon. Exp. release 2010, October
Size	Dimensions	119.4 x 61 x 15.2 mm	119 x 60.4 x 14.2 mm
Weight	184.3 g	180 g
Display	Type	TFT capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors	(same)
Size	480 x 800 pixels, 3.7 inches	(same)
- QWERTY keyboard	(same)
- Accelerometer sensor for UI auto-rotate	(same)
- Multi-touch input method	(same)
- Optical trackpad	(same)
- Swype text input	????
-no	- Proximity sensor for auto turn-off
-no	- Touch sensitive control panel
-no	- HTC Sense UI
Sound	Alert types	Vibration, MP3, WAV ringtones	(same)
Speakerphone	Yes	(same)
- 3.5 mm audio jack	(same)
Memory	Phonebook	Practically unlimited entries and fields, Photocall	(same)
Call records	Practically unlimited	(same)
Internal	4 GB storage, 512 MB RAM	1.5 GB; 512 MB RAM
Card slot	microSD, up to 32GB, 8GB included	microSD, up to 32GB
Data	GPRS	Class 10 (4+1/3+2 slots), 32 - 48 kbps	(same)
EDGE	Class 10, 236.8 kbps	(same)
3G	HSDPA, 7.2 Mbps; HSUPA, 2 Mbps	(same)
WLAN	Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g	Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n
Bluetooth	Yes v2.1 with A2DP	(same)
Infrared port	No	(same)
USB	Yes, microUSB v2.0	(same)
Camera	Primary	5 MP, 2592 x 1944 pixels, autofocus, LED flash	(same)
Features	Geo-tagging	Geo-tagging, face detection
Video	Yes, 720p	(same)
Secondary	No	Yes
Features	OS	Android OS, v2.2 (Froyo)	(same)
CPU	Qualcomm MSM 7230 800 MHz processor	(same)
Messaging	SMS(threaded view), MMS, Email, Push Email, IM	(same)
Browser	HTML	(same)
Radio	Nо	Stereo FM radio with RDS
Games	Yes	(same)
Colors	White, Black	Black
GPS	Yes, with A-GPS support	(same)
Java	Via third party application	(same)
- MP4/H.264/H.263 player	(same)
- MP3/WAV/eAAC+ player	(same)
- Organizer	????
- Document viewer (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, PDF)	????
- Google Search, Maps, Gmail,	(same)
YouTube, Calendar, Google Talk, Picasa integration	(same)
- Adobe Flash support
- Voice memo	(same)
- T9	(same)
????	- Aluminum unibody casing
????	- Digital compass
????	- Dedicated search key
Battery	Standard battery, Li-Ion 1300 mAh	(same)
Stand-by	Up to 430 h (2G) / Up to 430 h (3G)	????
Talk time	Up to 9 h 50 min (2G) / Up to 6 h 40 min (3G)	????
[G2 and Desire Z General] Falen:
So the only way to get the DLNA and Radio would be to root and use Desire Z ROM?

Maybe even cook a G2 ROM with some items from the Desire Z ROM?

Any chef's going to do this? :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] Arcadia310:
I'll try my hand at it. I've been studying android development for a little while now. I want to be ready for development when the G2 hits the market.
[G2 and Desire Z General] androidtoy09:
care to give me a hint where to start? i wanna learn how to develop with android. :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] Arcadia310:
http://developer.android.com/index.html

Start there. Look around the website and get used to the terminology. Your first step is to download the Software Development Kit, so click on the SDK tab. It's pretty daunting at first. :p
[G2 and Desire Z General] androidtoy09:
Thanks a lot!
[G2 and Desire Z General] santimaster2000:
+1 to the Desire Z, I live in Argentina, that means, If I bought the G2, no 3G.

The most annoying thing it's that I have to sacrifice 2,5 GB of internal memory to have 3G, but, I remember that there is a hack for the Milestone that allows you to modify the radio configuration, and open 3G bands, that normally are blocked for your phone, because of the bands limitation of the market where you bought it, so, if, we asume, that the G2, and the Desire Z have almost the same hardware, wouldn't be possible to port the radio configuration of the Desire Z to the G2, or at least modify the original to open the 3G bands originally closed by the carrier that resells the units in out country ?

I know that I'm speculating a lot, but maybe the answer it's simply no, because nobody have never being able to this kind of modding of an HTC Terminal radio configuration.

Of course, I'm going to buy it in Europe, and then ask someone that frequently travels to Europe, to bring it with him/her, when comes back to my country. Or do you think that HTC officially sells their terminals in South America ??? This is just like Africa, but instead of dying from TB, you die for being hit by a bullet, see it in this way, at least it's less painful.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dinky1:
help need to install android on tmobile leo
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hazard99:
What research have you done my friend. You post no info on your phone either! You need to know what radio you are running.

But first read the stickies
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] joshkoss:
closing duplicate thread of this.

Don't do it again buddy!
[Wildfire General] wartex39:
Hello.

First of all i would like to say hello to everyone here on xda forum.

And sorry for my bad english, but i will try to explain so better i can.

Yesterday i've got som update for my wildfire buzz. I'm from Danmark and i don't know is that froyo 2.2 update or what? But, my problem is that, when i confirm that i will get it on my cell ewerything seems fine until my phone reboot and after this i've got small android ikon with package. It runs like about 15-20 % and after this i got only android ikon with some triangle caution??? When i press on power button i've got some menu options when i can reboot and some other things. Someone some can help me here?

Thanks in advance.
[Wildfire General] Baggatoni:
It may be that you don't have enough space in internal memory, I know when upgraded to Froyo on my Desire, I had the same problem, had to have a minimum of 25MB free, although it did tell me that in the error message.

ps. Not sure your update is Froyo, as far as i'm aware it's not out yet for Wildfire, should be soon though, from reading the topics on this site.

Bagga.
[Wildfire General] wartex39:
Hello. Thanks for your reply. I don't think so it is my memory, beacuse i have something about 97 mb free on my internal memory. Something about of 55% of internal memory.
[Fascinate General] orateam:
I don't remember this with any of the other Galaxy S phones.

When i plug in my headset, i still can hear the notifications through the main speaker. Does the fascinate have some sort of setting to disable this? I'm used to plugging in headsets to basically mute the phone. It's annoying when i'm listening to music and everyone can tell when i'm getting texted.
[G2 and Desire Z General] svetius:
Woot! Desire Z FTW
[G2 and Desire Z General] TheGrammarFreak:
I want one. I want one now. I hate contracts, I am gonna have to wait another year and a half before I can get a new phone. That or I save up some...
[G2 and Desire Z General] alienwolf426:
meh, hate sliders because unless you take super care of them they get wobbly and on my nerves ... :P
[G2 and Desire Z General] Benni-chan:
wow, this is so damn amazing! got to get one. Hope, o2 in Germany will offer it on a good price :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] TheDeadCPU:
Oh hey svetius!

You thinking 'bout buying it?

Anyhow. I'm buying it.

I just hope some of the awesome stuff like HTC Fast Boot can be ported back to the "old" Desire.
[G2 and Desire Z General] raven_raven:
This will be my next phone, I am sure of it. I will not buy it instantly, but by Christmas I have to own it. I have to.
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
Ooh, ooh ! I love my TP2's hardware keyboard, but the Desire Z looks like just what I'm waiting for ! :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] Kaph:
Hmm. Did anyone else think it looked like it lagged in the video compared to the Desire HD?

I love the idea of the keyboard for emulators and taking full advantage of the screen size, but I've had my iPhone for 31months so I can deal with not having keyboard.

Unfortunately, it's a 3G and I'm unbelievably sick of lag.

Otherwise, I LOVE THIS PHONE.
[G2 and Desire Z General] darthcornel:
The Desire Z looks awesome ! It's going to be my next phone. The only thing that sucks is that it doesn't have a dedicated number row other than that it's great :D

They should have made the keyboard like the Touch Pro 2 :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] Andyt95:
14 months until I get one... :(

screw it, I'm gonna get one anyway, screw my G2 touch. Now the only issue is £40 a month...

hmmm, puzzling.
[G2 and Desire Z General] jhhest:
Speeddevil

A little speedtest on Youtube:

Battle of the Speed Demons: T-Mobile G2 versus Epic 4G

It shows the difference between 1000mhz and 800 mhz.

I can't post the direct link. I'm a newbie.

Edit: Here you go ~TheRomMistress
[G2 and Desire Z General] Cmps:
I'm going to have it as soon as it comes available in Italy, already love it!
[G2 and Desire Z General] Jive Turkey:
I just ordered on online. Should be here tomorrow! :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] skulk3r:
a G2 or a Desire Z?
[G2 and Desire Z General] Roqueez:
The only reason I'm picking this phone over the HTC HD2 is because of the keyboard. I have to say, T-mobile has some really ugly phones but this is one of the best ones. I also love it's UI, it sp gosh dang fast!! w00t!!!
[G2 and Desire Z General] Jive Turkey:
A G2. Sorry, I didn't notice that there were separate forums for the different Desire Z models.
[G2 and Desire Z General] mahender:
i have had my desire z since about 12 o clock.

i must say abosloutely love it. it totally rock.s

smooth, easy, smart.

mlove the keyboard love the fact it does what it says it is gonna.

have taken a few pics today they look wicked,

love it love it.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dinky1:
help to install android on tmobile htc hd2
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] newbie2006:
Do some research please!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y0YK1IqjB0
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] joshkoss:
agreed, please research before posting.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] badasschris:
So I thought I had set up syncing to my gmail account but my calendar is not syncing only email and people. Any ideas?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jodmos:
could it be that when entering event, under the day/time part there is a box which says Calendar and is set to My Calendar, change that to your gmail account and it should sync.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] daClaus:
did you check the calendar sync in the account settings?
[XPERIA X10 General] rsmex:
Hi everyone I've installed lock 2.0 from the market and in the options there is a tab to disable the system lock but it doesn't work so I've got both running does anyone know how to remove the original I'm on the newest firmware and have root access oh and I did do a search but no luck :'(
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
I remember a thread about a similar issue a few weeks back... from what I can understand, the problem lied in not restarting the phone... also, don't press the Home button to wake up the phone.

Here's the thread, maybe you can get more understanding from it than me... (I haven't replaced my lock screen/rooted):

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=753538&highlight=Lock+screen
[XPERIA X10 General] rsmex:
Cheers it seems to work if u set lock 2.0 to disable the system lock then restart the phone
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] John2y:
Hey guys i have android on my kaiser for 2 months and it happened to me twice that suddenly part of system fall, that means home button stop works and when somebody call me it just said i am busy. Reset didnt help so i had to reinstall the ROM. Can u tell me where is the problem?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] l1q1d:
sorry wrong post
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ghghgh14702:
I think we need more info, like what did you last do when it happen, did you install something new, did the battery die while in android, is this haret or nbh install?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] John2y:
Its NBH install on NAND. I have Cyanogen Rom and the latest kernel and i didnt do anything unusual just normaly used it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ghghgh14702:
which cy rom? I had issues with one crashing all the time (cy stuff was freezing the system up) so maybe a diff distro like fresh froyo or I am using Incubus26Jc's Super FroYo.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ghghgh14702:
Also something that helps is clearing the download folder on your sd card. I know in froyo those files have been my bane. The stupid market has download resuming now, but it looks like it doesn't do well restarting the write of the file on the system (which is why you usually don't to this unless you are a master).
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Moon2:
I've got the official htc extended battery; I just installed tbattery on chuckyrom to find out why the battery didn't last too long. Under "Full(mAH)", the value is shown to be 12296. This has me completely confused seeing how its a 2300mAh battery.

I've already searched the forum.

Note: I'm using the latest ChuckyROM version:

http://www.xda-developers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=618787

A couple of mins ago, the battery was at 41%, I just shut down the phone, removed the battery and put it back to find the percentage at 57.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xnifex:
if it's a new battery, drain it completely & recharge. do that a few times & then run tbattery for a more accurate reading. (this is what i've read anyway)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Moon2:
It didn't make a difference; just changed to artemis rom and at the very least its working a bit better.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] brn85:
hI,

I have configured an adhoc wireless network. I can connect to it using other laptop and access to the internet. But SGS can´t find that network.

Can someone help?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] foxbat121:
Android OS doesn't support adhoc wireless.

If your laptop is running Windows 7, give this a try:

http://tameyourpc.blogspot.com/2009/07/windows-7-as-wireless-access-point.html

This will set your laptop up as a wireless AP, not adhoc wireless.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] edwinlinkt:
Try Virtual Router also :)

http://virtualrouter.codeplex.com/
[Galaxy S I9000 General] TMReuffurth:
If you have a Intel W-Lan Chipset you also can download Intel MyWifi to set up your Laptop as a Router. Works very well on mine.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] DaRkMyk:
There are lots of Windows 7 WiFi Router softwares.. I have personally used this: http://connectify.me/
[Galaxy S I9000 General] foxbat121:
connectify.me is mentioned in my link as well. Basically they all use the undocumented Windows 7 feature to make a wireless AP. You can use 3rd party app to configure and enable the feature or just use simple script to do so.

The reason it is undocumented is because the feature does not always work.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] brn85:
Guys, thanks for all replies! I'm running win 7 . My wireless card is: "Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG".

Do you know if connectify will work?

EDIT:

I don't have the "Access Point" option! Why?

I just have Ad-Hoc WEP and Open.

This means it won't work?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] elliotxin:
recently i used HD2 to recording on my class, then i found a little problem in my phone that is after the recording got the video sound volume was so small ,i also found the problem on voice recorder.by the way my ROM version is( Energy 21916) and radio version is (2.10.50.08_2),so i want know should i install another software or patch on my phone to increase the sound volume? i expect your respond, thanks a lot!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Faelok:
The HD2 has only a single microphone on the bottom of the phone. It's not ideal for recording audio at a distance. You could try using a mic with a high sensitivity that plugs in to the 3.5mm jack. As far as boosting the audio goes, you could Download SRS Wow HD. It does improve the audio out quality quite a bit. No help with recording though.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] elliotxin:
thanks a lot!
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DF5JT:
Following the excellent guide in this forum, I managed to install a new 2.2 image on to the Hero and play around with it. I wasn't happy with it and restored the original system, which worked just fine.

I looked around and found another image to play with and loaded it on to the SD car and wanted to reboot it into safe mode. That, however, failed.

All I can see ist the Hero logo and after that it simply displays a red warning sign without any further description and no way to interact with the phone other than removing the battery and restarting the phone.

The original software boots fine, but I have no idea how to get back to the safe boot options and install another image.

Any ideas?
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pulser_g2:
What version of android did you restore to?

You will need to re root your handset using the suitable method, and reinstall your patched recovery.
[G2 and Desire Z General] sitelister:
Is this something we can bring back into the original desire?

Also, anyone concerned about the 800mhz vs the 1ghz on the desire?
[G2 and Desire Z General] kennethpenn:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpWPMens9C8

Holy crap. It's seriously like 3-4 seconds.
[G2 and Desire Z General] TheGrammarFreak:
I think the 800MHz CPU is gonna be as effecyive as a 1GHz one tbh. Remember the Moto Milestone (or Droid, depending)? Had a 550MHz CPU and was still stupidly fast. It even holds it's own in the current world of mobiles

EDIT:

Yeah, much newer Qualcomm CPU
[G2 and Desire Z General] kgk888:
Is it dual core as well? Or simply a 45nm die shrink of the existing architecture?
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
Ye me also thinks it's all about drivers and implementation, offloading more onto GPU. When drivers suck, performance sucks too, jerky scrolling and so on... but the youtube videos suggest it's insanely smooth :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] TheDeadCPU:
Nope no dualcore.

I suspect it's just underclocked to favor batterylife.
[G2 and Desire Z General] sashajovicic:
this is a must have device
[G2 and Desire Z General] MacaronyMax:
Apparently according to GSMarena i thinnk it waas the benchmarking scores are high even for a 1ghz and it being 800mhz , :D im guna wait for linpack scores before i buy i new phone (how sad does that sound :p) ) its this desire HD or Milestone 2 :D :p
[G2 and Desire Z General] TheDeadCPU:
Yea. It's probably because it's got a new GPU.

Or.. We think there is a new GPU.
[G2 and Desire Z General] raven_raven:
This is really impressive. I don't know if it is full boot (or maybe something like hibernation on PC) but it still looks amazing!
[G2 and Desire Z General] cantIntoCode:
Seen the Engadget post a while ago. Wish I had waited a while before upgrading ;(
[G2 and Desire Z General] mrvanx:
Helloooooo to my next phone :D

Im really pleased we have a HTC with qwerty and android finally, was a bit dissapointed that I only saw it available as the G2 yesterday but looked today and theres the press announcement :D