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[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] greeced:
This will be my final post to you, so fill your boots with replies if you wish.

Where in my posts have I ever be said be happy with what Samsung has produced so far? I never said that. What I did say that customers should be happy with the fact that samsung is actually producing updates and we should be happy that they are. Imagine we remained on 2.1 and they didn't provide any updates for us to move to 2.2. Wouldn't you be unhappy? Even worse than you are now? Of course you would.

As for going to customer service and they replying to you no one is perfect, come on now, that won't happen. But can we not agree that they are working on it? Maybe in a few releases it will be working the way you feel it should...

Prior to this phone, I've had an HTC touch diamond. Never really worked the way I wanted to, but I came to forums like these, found work arounds and apps to do what I felt was inadequate and it made me happier with my phone. HTC never gave me any updates for my phone, at least Android, and more importantly Samsung is.

I've mentioned the iphone. Their hardware isn't working right, and no amount of software fixes or firmware updates will fix that. At least it has been said the GPS is a software issue that will be fixed over time, maybe not right away, but I feel it will, even if it takes XDA to do it. Will iPhone 4 users ever be happy considering nothing can be done about their hardware?

As for issuing stuff because the company has release dates. Yes it happens all the time, I agree. Samsung should not be forgiven, however that is not the point of my posts.

My point is, and this is where I'll end it. Samsung is issuing updates and every indication appears that they will continue to do so. If Samsung came right out and said "Live with it" then that would be unacceptable.

However, they are not saying that, yet people like you unfortunately are castrating them like they are.

So should we be happy with as you said "What Samsung has produced thus far?" Yes and No. No because of how it is currently, but yes because we know that this won't be the last we see in terms of updates.

I know you'll find something wrong with this post too, so I hope you finally find the audience you're looking for.. Because I'm done.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Roy Ngan:
guys, aren't we out of the topic? May I suggest to stick with technical and functional review. no point argue about how the service of Samsung here, do you think Samsung will pick it up from there ? No.

If you want to file a complain, email or contact your local Samsung service centre or distributor. Writing here simply won't bring your issue/ problem to next level.

just my 2 cents. Peace.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Hydrostatic:
This is a good idea. Only problem is that Samsung doesn't really listen to their customers. It has always been like that. We don't have any way to communicate with them directly. Support persons don't know anything and even they don't seem to have any connection to the actual development team. Samsung just really doesn't care.

I have to say that if this is the final version then this is it. I'm not going to continue this **** with Samsung anymore. For example HTC Desire is worse in terms of hardware, but works much better in practise. It doesn't lag although it's has slower hardware, GPS works etc.

We can only hope that some big tech site writes an article about the problems of Galaxy S. On the other hand, Samsung has gotten us fooled. There are so many of us, that Samsung has already made a **** load of money with this phone. I'm not sure, if they care anymore.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] greeced:
Agreed. Excellent post.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] greeced:
On the contrary, no company is satisfied with a "limit" on the money they make. This world is all about greed, and Samsung is no different. Therefore if, as you said a big tech site writes an article about the problems, Samsung has no choice but to respond, which I believe they are doing albeit quite slowly.

In the end, yes, they did make extensive amounts of money with this phone as they've done with all their products in all their divisions (Its one of the biggest companies in the world). But any amount of bad publicity with no response will hurt future sales of any new product or any existing. Especially since the advertising of this very product is currently in full swing (at least in Canada anyway). And no company wants that.

So maybe one of the posters is correct, but the direction may be flawed. Maybe we shouldn't send an open letter to Samsung, because they could hide any discontent that way, maybe that letter should be sent to a major tech magazine or consumer reports and have them test the unit for themselves based on the issues the letter states.

That will certainly grab Samsungs attention for those of you that are unhappy with the performance.

However, I believe Samsung is very active in listening to its customers, I mean the 3 button issue was brought up on facebook and Samsung listened and finally provided a fix. Even though my guess would be the majority of Galaxy S users out there wouldn't have a need for it.

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Now like the previous poster said, lets get back on topic.

Is there any functionality you guys see in 2.2 overwhelmingly beat that of 2.1? I missed the Voice Dialing via Bluetooth from my old phone, glad its now here.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] betoNL:
And how do you get it working pretty well? Threw that Pico TTS engine? Or threw Google voice actions? I mean, you sit in the car with a bluetooth carkit or a bluetooth headset and place calls with a voice command? Are you on JPH? Cause in JPC it's activated but it works badly....

Can you give me some pointers? And perhaps not here cause it's not the right thread; maybe here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=770674

or in a new topic?

They dont get it done and dont open it? Double Damn;)

And they did announce it, as it's working properly...that's the whole point...just dont announce it.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] RyanZA:
I don't use bluetooth.. for anything, personally, so I don't know. I was referring to the on-phone voice recognition, and not the through-bluetooth voice recognition (I can't even test it! ;) ) Is the bluetooth voice recognition different from the on-phone voice recognition? It seems really strange for the two to be different. Maybe you could use the on-phone voice recognition over bluetooth somehow?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] betoNL:
Right on :D

Dont go opening any champagne bottles just yet, till you tried it yourself
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] skiddhard:
My experience with the firmware shows that the system lags a lot. It worse than the stock firmware I got with the phone.

A pity, the gorgeous looks just can't keep up with the raw power the phone has. Not even a lag fix could solve it.... Not fit for a daily phone in my opinion. Swype just cannot keep up with your speed at all.... :(
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] huxflux2003:
Its beta. I've never seen so much fuss about a beta.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] betoNL:
On-phone voice recognition and over bluetooth are using same engine.

On phone voice recognition is lousy and over bluetooth is even worse...

And forget about locations...I gave up trying to go that far...

But the basic things:

There is no dedicated button for activating on-phone voice dialer(unlike via blutooth...funny)...you have to open the application first and then when I finally get understood(trying all kind off accents), it still wont place a call automatically, I still have to press ok...that means when using the stock headset, pressing and holding TALK button wont activate voice dialing and even if it did, you still have to pull the phone out of your pocket and press ok....LOUSY

And to be honest I dont believe your GS is doing better than this.....how did you configure the Pico engine? What is the default language? Are you an american (because generic english wont cut it either) ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] edgardurao:
If yesterday i've not applyed lagfix because felt no need for it, after one day up - hum.... 12 hours (midnight till 13) i've to reboot the damn thing.

It was slow...! Connected through wifi, and picking mail into exchange was the only operation.

I've installed lagfix, and will not put it with other rom because tired to do that. Hope next week this change.

So until now:

- Extreme slow after half a day

- Compass very weird... north/south completely scrambled

- FM Radio is still Mono

- Exchange reply bug - remove quote or else....
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] elmig:
Very fluid. satisfied with speed.

I haven't installed a lag fixer, not needed anymore.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] the incredible:
i just finished of install jph.

Why in market do not present the program that i install from astro?

In my market there are only application that i install by its.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] DrIGGI:
So I have the FW now since two days and can report following things:

- Touchwiz jerky like never before

- With ADW Launcher / Launcher Pro, the FW is running as smooth as JM6 with Voodoo Lagfix

- No lags (without any fix!)

- Wireless Tethering is a bit buggy

All in all, it's one of the best FWs I had so far, and the first one running really smooth without any Lagfix. The only thing that is very jerky is Touchwiz, otherwise the FW is really good!

btw. I flashed it by the Samfirmwares method (first to JPC with re-partition and then without re-partition to JPH)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] the incredible:
i also.

After that i saw the bench of desire hd similar to galaxy s..
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] edgardurao:
You'll need it ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] odyssey61:
They always are fluid after a fresh flash. Give it 2 days and you will be applying a lagfix.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] fane1:
Just a question: Have u people measure free memory available after flashing and then after one day use? Im sure it will be around 40mb after one day... because its the same with 2.1.Unless u have some autokiller program not even a lagfix will save us... sad but true
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] cyberz:
Hi,

had flashed 3 days ago. Today had 90MB free, now 72 MB. But have used some app, browser, twitter always online, handcent sms, phone, laucher pro always active, ecc. Amount of free ram is similar to JM7, on my phone.

Regards
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] chimerical26:
Summary

Hi,

I haven't flashed JPH yet. I've read through this thread to find what issues I can expect when I do. Here is a list of all the issues mentioned. If I missed any it's because I am tired having sifted through so much off topic rubbish. I hope to report back on which of these issues I encounter. Maybe you can comment specifically on which ones you have or add any you do. Some but not all of you have had these issues. People who have had no issues generally won't take the time to go looking at and posting on threads.

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*Exchange email does not send replies properly.

*Doesn't sync tasks and appointments created with 3rd party calender app.

*Some familiar slowdown. RFS filesystem remains.

*Problem with compass and calibration. After reboot magnetic field issue.

Recalibration required.

*FM Radio is mono and not stereo.

*Poor performance in browser with flash enabled (Seems to depend on the site)

*Some GPS issues relating to accuracy and dropouts while driving.

*310Mb(ish) of RAM total displaying rather than 512Mb. Starts to lag when the available ram drops below 70Mb (no active applications).

*Some Lag issues which have been improved with Lag fixes.

*3 button recovery not fixed.

*Gmail account details deleted on reboot and must be re-entered.

*Can't respond to calendar invitations

*In “contacts - menu - import/export - export to sd” it vibrates..freeze..vibrates twice then FC!

*Bluetooth issues when pairing and voice dialing.

*ISsues with SWype capitalising FIrst TWo letters of words.

*Programs installed with Astro Filemanager not showing as installed in Market.

++++++

Useful tip:

*There is a new "Move to SD" button - "Move to SD" is in Applications / Manage Applications and then click on the application you want to move. However, it is disabled for most applications since it has to be explicitly enabled for each application in its manifest. Alternatively you can use adb to set PMINSTALLMODE to 2 and then any application can be moved.

PS. Wish this summary wasn't on page 31 of the thread though.

Regards. *Phew! Brain is tired*
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] spyrale:
Good job chimerical, seems to me that nothing is missing!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] richardbroder:
Someone send this to the 1st page, please
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] greeced:
Anyone notice if contact groups sync with google contacts properly now?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] BaggyBizzle:
I do not normally post on this forum...I mostly just listen and follow the xda devs advice on how to make my SGS better....but all this ranting got me thinking.....:confused:....that :

Most people that have moaned on this thread have probably installed most of the BETA firmwares on their devices a lot of times and hoped for instant fixes, for the problems they have had with the previous releases, and are then disappointed when the issues they are having have not been ironed out.Correct me if im wrong but do the samsung devs state when they leak these unofficial FWs, the fixes that they have implemented....NO BECAUSE ITS BETA. And do they state that if you flash an official firmware ....you do so at your own risk and that it may brick your phone...ERRR NO BECAUSE ITS OFFICIAL.

Some people posting on this thread should take heed of this advice and IMO stop fcuking moaning about why this, this and that will not work when samfirmwares have not listed JP1,2,3,C or H as official nevermind Samsung themselves. Use these to test the Flash 10.1 capability and not much else i say because who knows what they are tweaking and changing to get an official FROYO version.

If you want to keep force flashing every single BETA FW thats going...do so...but 9 times out of 10 you still wont be a happy bunny...guaranteed.

JUST BE HAPPY YOU ARE ABLE JUST TO TEST THESE AND MAYBE SOMEBODY AT SAMSUNG WILL MAKE YOUR WISHES COME TRUE IF THEY WERE TO READ THE MANY USEFUL POSTS ON THIS THREAD
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] ashwinds:
Someone send this to Samsung please!!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] _DiMoN_:
chimerical26 thank you for making that list, it should go to the first page.

But a change-log it is positive things too. So what positive has changed?

What I am missing when using 2.1.

-> Multiple accounts on gmail

-> Online backup of SMS and settings in my Google Account*

-> Remote WIPE**

Will I find the above features in this version?

* Don't tell me about software, I want something from Google

** Don't tell me about software because I don't know any software doing factory reset, complete wipe.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] sapiderman:
hi....try connectify:

Its free and how i have my SGS connect through a shared internet connection. Its exclusive for Win 7 though. Ss for ad-hoc, hit me on the noggin if im wrong, but i read that ad hoc is not supported on andoird?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] cyberz:
Before of anything, JPH is a BETA release.

Thanks chimerical26 for your exhaustive analysis.

Have verified some of these issue on my phone:

1.I not use Exchange on SGS.

2.Doesn't use thirdy part app with calendar, only thirdy part app Birthday with contacts.

3.RFS ...LagFix by RyanZa beta 2-3 work fine, for now.

4.Compass app seem work fine, for now. I will investigate on this.

5.FM radio is mono. :(

6.Flash work great with megavideo and other site, surely depend on network and on site.

7.I have not tested GPS with JPH, for now.

8.Now have 61MB free ram, one minute ago was 58MB. Tryed with Launcher Pro, after browser just now, nothing. But true, had few *micro*-lag when the free ram was ~70MB. Almost impercettible.

9.CLagFix is great.

10.Never had problem with three button recovery.

11.Gmail account remain intact after reboot.

12.Had not used calendar invitation.

13.Had succesfully exported SD contacts previously imported from SD of JM7, all well.

14.Still not tryed Bluetooth.

15.Swype work correctly, not capitalize anything, but, not sure, swype on JM7 seem more accurate.

16.Not use astro Manager.

I Add:

17. Vocal compositor(not google search)doesn't work with my language(Italian). Had tryed speak in English, and doesn't work too, but my English is bad. It always launch bad application and bad contact, not what I say.

However, at least for me it is a stable, good beta rom.

Regards
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] EarlZ:
This is a MASSIVE plus for me

WIFI stregnth is significantly better compared to all 2.1 firmwares that ive tested.

In my room i dont get any signal at all with my phone or laptop now with the JPH i get signal and get internet access altho the signal IS pretty weak but atleast i can get internet access
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] davidf:
Ok, jph has been on my phone for a week now and all seems to work ok, generally the phone seems to perform better than jpc. It hasn't been switched off and has been recharged 3 times over the week plus a bit of trickle charging when connected to the pc to move music over to it.

Touchwiz is definitely smoother and the pinch on home screens and application pages works smoothly.

GPS - tracking seems better both in a vehicle (haven't tried at hi-speed) and walking, one of the apps that show distance travelled and average speed seems pretty accurate over a 10km run. Compass hasn't had any weird heart attacks yet but even gps devices that cost more than this phone can occassionally lose the plot.

3g - is ok and I like that I can now disable it through a menu option on the power down dialog.

Wireless seems to get better signal strength than before, haven't tried wireless tethering but usb tethering runs flawlessly.

Battery usage is definitely higher than it was with jpc(finding it hard to get 2 full days out of the phone) but there is some random wierdness where the phone for no obvious reason was going in hspa mode for a few minutes this may be cuasing excess battery usage(i now switch off 3g so i'll see if that makes a difference).

With ram I would love to know how the OS does its garbage collection but it definitely frees up ram on an iregular basis

Overall this phone is getting better and is just strengthening my over all happiness with the device. Such a change from the 18 months it took to get my very first 'smart phone' (htc p3600) to sort of work the way I wanted it to.

Just for the general info - I flashed back to the original optus rom, then used the 2 stage samfirmware odin method for jph. I then did a factory reset and cleared cache.

Honestly I have never been that impressed with Samsung devices and it was only the 16gb of internal memory and 4 inch screen that swayed me into getting this over a HTC desire, so glad I did.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] TriC_101:
This was a Beta Release.. LOL.. so much fuss over a Beta Release.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] davidf:
I think that if the 'fuss' is constructive then its well worth it. For those considering the galaxy the ongoing 'real' development from samsung could be a factor. I know that without the acknowledgement from samsung that there would be a froyo release I would have been forced to look elsewhere as froyo is a necessity for my development environment. Anyone who wanted full flash 10.1 support would also have ensure that they where running froyo.

If you ignore the detractors/trolls its obvious a lot of posters have concerns over certain aspects of the device they are locked into, even unofficial firmware with all the problems it can cause is a way to gauge if the phone is being given enough attention by the manufacturer and so far 'unofficially' samsung are doing the right thing and its comforting to know that the galaxy is not being treated like so many other devices on the market where there is a big splash in release sales then the manufacturer moves on to the next big marketable device(commonly known as the Steve Jobs marketing technique) and offers very little in post market support.

One thing that gets very little mention is that this device is more future proof than anything else on the market due to samsungs opensource policy.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] ragin:
Same here, but I have installed RyanZA's lagfix & my phone flies. I downloaded & installed Asphalt 5 from SamsungApps. The Graphics quality is AMAZING & the speed & responsiveness of my SGS is superb.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Stefanauss:
+1, i was thinking about that too.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] catanzaro27:
If Samsung doesn't get his **** together by official froyo i see myself forced to discontinue usage of this mobile terminal. Nr. one issue for me: i god damn hate this lag on my phone. Why do i have to become an it expert just to get my phone working as it should when it came out of the box? C'mon, iphone is one hell of a good phone if we look through this lag s**t, eaven iPhone 3G.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] r3loaded2010:
Ok guys, it was too good to be true - my phone started lagging after a good 40 hours of being on without a lagfix. Applied CFLagfix 1.80, and it's quick and snappy as ever. :p

Wi-Fi is definitely better compared to previous firmwares, market downloads work flawlessly now. My previous comments about the lack of lag in menus still stand, there's none of that micro-stutter that used to previously occur even with lagfixes applied. It occasionally seems to forget that I've set LauncherPro as default and prompts for the choice of launcher when I hit the home button. Other than that, everything I need work great! :D (though I still await the release of Voodoo+OC/UV kernels for Froyo).
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Vulpinity:
So much better, in fact, that it could apparently detect my router at home with full signal when I was sat in a cafe 11 miles away.

I think that may be a bit of a glitch on mine. :D

Still absolutely no lag though on day three without a lag fix. Bizarre!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] AyeGee:
My bluetooth wont work. It connects, but no sound is transferred.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] david_1989:
In my opinion the wifi on this rom is terrible! I only get a connection of 19mbps most of the time and occasionally 24mbps. The signal strength is awful also. Before on jp3 I was getting N speeds and signal quality and this was the case even when using the jm3 radio.

Also, does anyone else find that the BBC football website often crashes the stock browser?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] DamianGto:
Cant understand why all say the phone is so bad. I guess I must have a super special phone. Stock jm1 with one click lag fix. Gps and all things I use work very well.

I do have a iphone to, but this phone is so much better.

I do wait for froyo to.

I dont install this jph beta.

Its a beta and it have flaws like all beta.

Wait to complain on it when it has come out, if the flaws is still there's
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] DrIGGI:
Here's a video I've made. JPH running on my device without any lagfixes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54A5eips2mg

~3 Days after flashing
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] captive:
thanks for posting. at least now we now how interface behaves! can you upload some video of sgs/froyo using touchwiz?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Razer(x):
Triyin' this since 2 days, i'm not really sure if it's cause of a bad flash, but it's pretty laggy with lagfix too, and i don't like it. JM8 was REALLY better for me :)

PS: Is there any JMH-based rom?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] BronzedDroid:
I'm guessing you mean JPH.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=780057
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Razer(x):
Thx mate, gonna try this :);)