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[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] jason4656:
basically i want a functional phone so i am trying every option with my old hero for my 2nd phone, i want one that i can text on , and all i find is massive lag running any rom, frm 1.5, 2.1, 2.2 so thats why i have mentioned it, just because you find it illogical, doesnt mean it is! if it wont run properly then i will sell it and move onto another phone nothing against any rom or developer, i simply want a phone that works well :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] reza_baher2001:
i have a problem!!

using headphone is ok but when i unplug the headphones sound is still mute and speakers isn't play a sound at all!!after a reboot it's back to normal and i have sound i speakers !!!

this app didn't fix this issue!!

any suggestion???
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] g0at:
@Coedy vm notifications didn't work in CM version 111, I reported as a bug over there, guess it'll be fixed when floyo merges with latest CM build

@cable2k worked fine for me. I flashed straight to 1.01, did you, or you upgrade from v1?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Coedy:
Thanks for the heads up! I will just have to keep checking manually... :( or trying to remember to check manually..

That's all I did (just let it update itself as normal and reboot). Alls fine!

When you update Floyo, yes you will need to re-do it all again as it seems best to wipe everything before updating Floyo ;)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] erasmux:
Do you mean that vm notifications where broken also on old CM nightlies but now are fixed?

Regarding the first question, yes if LauncherPro is upgraded there is no need to rerun it. Basically it does two things: remove the previous launcher (i.e. ADW) which if you already ran it once this step is no longer needed. And it moves LP to the internal memory to make sure you can boot without an SD. If you upgrade LP the new version will sit on the SD card but you will be able to boot the previous LP version without the SD card....

Regarding Floyo updates, the update from 1.0 to 1.01 is an incremental for which you do not have to wipe or rerun this. When the next version (i.e. 1.1) will be released it will require reruning this and a full wipe will be recommended.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] jason4656:
all good so far 8hrs use 70 texts sent and received, messed about installing stuff and setting all phone up battery use 50% using juice defender, no bs, reboots or wake up problems apart from once i noticed it didnt wake straight away but after a couple of presses, no lag problems to report yet either, seems to behave much better than FV

thanks
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] BRijpstra:
Of course not, I'm honored ;)! So you're welcome & thank you of course :)

Minor detail btw, the wallpapers never really worked imho, but just now I finally finished them: (blue)Steel v2 is almost the same as before, but now the headspin is made On the launchbar instead of through it :p.

But still it wasn't really matching. It had too much color :D, so therefore v3 is my favorite: background B&W with only the android in color; works really well with the theme in terms of looks & usability imho! Will be the default wallpaper once I get to update the package.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] jstryow:
ROM Multitouch

Hey any idea about getting multitouch on this ROM?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] andersch:
Multitouch is allready working.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] erasmux:
Regarding the bluetooth problem, I really can't recreate it: I enable BT, transfer a file to my computer, disable BT, enable it again, transfer another file to my computer, disable BT, enable BT. It just works. Don't know what to tell you. Did you try a clean wipe (I am sorry but that's the "generic" solution)?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] g0at:
@coedy Vm notifications.. just left myself a vm and it notified on floyo. I definitely had an issue with the 111 Cm nightly & vm notifications though. Wondering whether it was because I already had vmails to listen to before I flashed the Rom , I dunno
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] jason4656:
ok 24hrs with this rom and its just too much, sorry its just the same as FV with the lag problem, am gonna go back to a sense rom if thats the same, im gonna bin the phone as my 2nd phone, in general i would say this is better than FV but as for lag, i am just so tired of trying to type texts and just typing so slow to wait for the keyboard, i hav eno idea what it is, haptic feedback is off and sound is off, its just unbearable, thank you :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] jankhner:
i have the lag only for the couple of first charachters while typing text... And i've had that problem on every rom. I've just got used to it (:
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] mdon874:
I get this too even if I OC ... I wouldn't bin my phone for it like.... but I might try Elelinux's ROM next to see if it happens there... so far i've used this and FV and prefer Floyo.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] erasmux:
Do you mean just the first few seconds of typing there is a lag (I assume the keyboard still loading or something like that) or something more serious? Because like jankhner has said above, a short lag at the start of typing seems to happen in all ROMs I have ever had, including this one. I do not suffer from anything more than that, even without OC.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] e2zippo:
All froyo roms lag on my hero, and I can't stand it! And it's not just when you write a sms. The dialer is really slow as well, whenever i tap a number it's takes about a second for it to respond (dialer one is the worst) but the original dialer (which sux big time) lag as well.

And the app drawer with launcherpro lag as well.

But i keep hoping this will be solved cause i get terrible battery life on all 2.1 roms.

Why google decided not to use hardware acceleration in android i'll never figure out. But if anyone can improve it, it's you guys (Cyanogenmod, Villianteam, eramux, elelinux and so on).

I'm resting my hopes on a legend sense 2.2 port whenever that arrives.

You're doing an amazing job, thank you so much!
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] ziggy1001:
This is WEIRD i have tried virtually all the Froyo roms and never seen lag on any of them + i normally get 2-3 days battery life on all of them.

I have been playing around with different settings to try and conserve battery life and currently after 60 hours have 55% battery left. I can only think lag and battery problems are down to how you install a rom, what programs you run and battery is effected mainly by usage. As far as the short lag at the start of typing goes well i touch the keyboard and the letter or number appears immediately in the dialer and the keyboard
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] e2zippo:
I've tried em all as well, and they are virtually the same for me.

60 hours and 55% battery left, that's amazing, do you even use your phone? :confused:

The most i got out was about 40 hours and that was with FV 1.4.x. Now i seem to end up around 30, and i don't use my phone that much.

When i check battery consumption, I get.

Screen: 47%

Calls: 33%

Android-system: 5%

Does that seem right?

About the lag, it would seem logical that the number of apps installed affects both the performance and battery life BUT even on a clean install it's kinda slow.

Maybe my Hero just doesn't like Froyo :(
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] ziggy1001:
That 60 hours 55% is with just a few hours wifi surfing checking email etc no calls so more like standby usage than a day with lots of calls txts music etc.Odd thing is i was getting great battery life by switching everything off when not being used GPS, Wifi, Sync, background data etc. However i didn't realize that there was a sleep mode for Wifi and that GPS isn't used unless an app is using it so i tried leaving Wifi, GPS, sync and background data on all the time and if anything battery life is better! maybe turning on/off stuff uses more power than leaving it on

Screen: 47%

Calls: 33%

Android-system: 5%

Seems perfectly normal screen is always the highest for me

I understand that different phones have CPU's that can be OC to differing speeds But i just came to the conclusion that my phone doesn't like FV always had problems with it. Maybe our Hero's are more individual than we think
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Maxmaka:
I have got similar battery drain problem. I've checked almost all 2.2 roms, and still my battery drains very fast.

I think most of the time it's display issue. When phone is in standby it could stay around 2 days without charging, but everytime I turn on display battery is going down around 20-30 percent per hour. The phone is used most of time for listening music (radio 3g) and reading books, so use is quite intensive, but still it's huge battery drain. So after 1h of of use I need to charge battery again.

Battery statistic mostly look like this:

Screen: 70-80%

Calls: 10%

Cell standby 10%-15%

Android-system: 5%

Any1 has any idea how to fix it ? on villain forum some of the users confirm similar issue, so maybe it's cm6 problem ?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] cjescudero:
No way, the conection with the eduroam network still doesn't work. Only once I was able to connect, but not anymore.

I remember that this is a general problem of Froyo and Enterprise 802.11x networks: code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=6997
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] enyeng:
Can you also check within the Display (just click on the "Display" on the "Battery Use" screen), and tell us how long is the screen in "On" state?

I commute by train about 4 hours daily. Leaving home in the morning after an overnight charge, when I reached home in the evening usually I will get about 40-50% battery left. That's with about 3 hours screen on (thus with about 3 hours actual usage: browsing, checking emails, facebook-ing, etc.).

When the phone is on standby (I used to turn off autosync and all connections), the battery use is negligible. I can leave it for 5 hours and the battery will not go down at all or go down by max 2%. However, after this long standby whenever I start to use it, it will rapidly go down by about 5% until it 'stabilize'.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] erasmux:
Personally I don't buy this "device dependent" crap, especially not for lags - stuff like OC for sure, underclocking and maybe even battery life it's not that far fetched - but lags no way that can be device dependent.

I have just worked to investigate such lag issues with someone on private chat and even though the ROM with all 200 of his apps seemed laggy to him. He has verified that doing a full wipe and installing just the ROM and LP - no other apps - does not lag.

I suggest that anyone suffering from these lags, do a full wipe, reinstall only the main ROM file and LP if you want. Reboot after installing LP. Let the ROM settle and verify that you have no lags. I tested it and in the LP app drawer, phone dialer, HTC_IME, builtin file mananger - I find no lags.

If you do find lags in such a clean install - no apps - please try to detail exactly what you experiencing and how serve is it.

Assuming you don't see any lags, try installing the apps in small batches and see if its one or more apps that are causing these lags.

On last note, dialer one is not the fastest app I have met, I can live with it and find its advantages out way its disadvantages. If anyone knows of something better I will happy to hear about it.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Judim:
Hey Erasmux!

Is it possible to deactivate temporally the deep sleep mode?

I installed the day before yesterday a nice alarm app. Yesterday morning it worked well. But this morning, I slept to long...

Otherwise, when I wake up the morning, no program is synced. The mails arrive a few minutes after I first check my phone.

So I have imagined it is because of the deep sleep mode. I don't need it because I always let my phone in charge during the night. So is there a checkbox I can uncheck? Or a xml file I can easily modify or something to have my phone only half sleeping while I am deep in sleep?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] erasmux:
I would suggest you try disabling the screen saver (I set it to 30 minutes) then let it rest doing nothing but with screen on. I lose about 10%/hour like this. If you lose more something is wrong with your installation. Try to do a full wipe, reinstall it, and recheck it with no apps installed. It should lose about 10%/hour with only display on.

I think that even with heavy usage losing 30%/hour is too much. But its a bit hard to quantify "heavy" usage exactly. Generally, I do find active usage of things like calls, wifi, data, GPS, etc. are all also battery drainers. I would guess that if you have all of them on and active then a 20%/hour and maybe even more might actually be ok.

Similar to my response above, just keeping the screen on for 4 hours non-stop should loose you about 40%. So if we add a bit more usage when not on the train that actually sounds logical.

BTW, has anyone done a good fair comparison between Froyo ROMs and Sense 2.1 ROMs battery life? I never gave that much attention to battery life on 2.1. I am one of those who have relatively low usage, and will usually reached 50% only after about 3 days of no charging....
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] ziggy1001:
That was me quoting someone elses stats but mine are

Uptime 64.38 hours battery 51%

Display 44% Time on 2h 53mins

and the screen brightness is set as low as i can and to see it indoors
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] erasmux:
First of all, at least when connected by USB to the computer it never enters this deep sleep mode. I assume the same when its charging with power adapter.

Second of all, why would you think its because of this deep sleep mode? deep sleep or not deep sleep when I leave the phone with wifi on the Gmail apps on the phone will usually notify me about new e-mails before the gmail notifier on my PC.... Alarm apps should also not be affected by this.

Did you check if the regular alarm app works fine for you? If yes I would assume its a problem with this specific app.

And like always, as much as it hurts me to say this, the only "generic" solution I know is to do a full wipe, reinstall with as little apps as possible and check if the issue reoccurs (i.e. the e-mail notifications).
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] enyeng:
Thanks. This is in line with what I'm experiencing then.

For others who seem to get battery drain even when the phone is on standby, maybe you can take a look at "Watchdog" to investigate the offending apps? http://www.appbrain.com/app/watchdog-task-manager-lite/com.zomut.watchdoglite

Got the tip from Lifehacker. Have it installed in my phone, but never use it myself :D Putting it on standby in case the need arise (thankfully, never happened ;) )
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] swatsbiz:
I can't say that it's a scientific method used to evaluate the battery drain issue on the ROM's but I've pretty much tried them all to find a ROM which gave me a decent battery life. And the one I've come back to is Elelinux with Flykernel 11. I love the Froyd ROM but it drains battery way too fast. At least with Elelinux and light/moderate usage I can get 24hrs out of the battery, if I just didn't use the phone it would last days.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] rionline:
so...it was hard work, but i found one bug! haha...luv this rom...

if you switch bluetooth off , you cannot turn it on again. there are exception but for most cases it does.

keep up the good work
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] erasmux:
Happen to me one time, then I rebooted and since then it works fine. Have tried everything to recreate this problem, even asked my other testers to try to recreate it. We all, can turn BT on, connect to our BT devices (and transfer files etc.), turn it off, turn it on, do stuff with BT again, turn it off and back on and so on. Since I think your the 3rd person who is reporting this, there is something to your claims, but the ROM itself seems fine.

I suggest the "generic" solution, offered by almost each of my posts in this thread: do full wipe, reinstall only ROM, no apps. Check if problem still exists. Logically it should not as it does not happen to me and others. Now while installing your apps and configuring the ROM, recheck it from time to time to try to understand if the problem comes back what is causing it....
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] bazsoczi:
Application not installed

I'm getting this error with this (otherwise perfect) ROM very frequently when trying to install downloaded apps. I'd love to have Angry birds, but it doesn't show up in the Market, and downloaded versions all fail to install with "Application not installed". I've had this error with other apps as well. What could be the problem?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] khunjj:
"Angry birds ver 1.3.5" is installed fine and it's quite fun. You may make sure that you have the latest version of angry birds and probably let froyo choose where to install the program automatically.

BTW, @erasmux, when can we get the newest Floyo 1.1? I believe that it would bring a better thing more and more to our HERO :)

Actually you are a HERO of our HERO phones now.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] croques:
Crash report

My phone crashed today.

I switched on the GPS radio using the Power Control widget. I started GPS Status application and within 10 seconds the phone restarted.

I can't reproduce the crash. However, I have noticed that the GPS will not get a fix unless the phone is started with the GPS radio on.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] e2zippo:
I agree somewhat, and the biggest factor of all here would be that "lag" is totally subjective. I am very sensitive about lag myself while my girlfriend thinks my phone is really fast and cool :D

But the fact remains that a sense 2.1 rom (last one i ran was RCmix 2.2b) is smoother than any froyo rom i've tried, and that's with all my apps installed.

Add to the fact that launcherpro's app drawer and the "previews" you get when you pinch zoom lags even on a clean install (my main test of lag)

The menus are fine, they behave like on a 2.1 sense rom.

Now before i go any further I'm gonna go ahead and do a full wipe and install Floyo 1.01 and try again, just to be sure.

Who knows, i might just end up beeing a complete douchebag, liar and whatnot :)

Cheers!
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] rabii2000:
This ROM is Awesome, I've been using it for 4 days now and I love it. Thanks dude
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] rionline:
thanks for the reply. but i can live with it...if i do not get it on.... i usually reboot my phone. this was a clean install (i mean it, really clean), but now there is hours of configuring in it and i cannot redo it without screaming! ;)

so waiting for next release! ;)

btw: it there a way to restore alle apps with titanium without interacting?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] sjaanjean:
This is the first Froyo ROM I flashed. Did complete wipe. Very snappy!

My phone seemed to run out of battery juice very quickly when the battery level reached 25%.

Just now I charged it to full, powered off, and charged some more until LED turned green. Booted into recovery and wiped battery stats, now let's see how it holds...

I really hope this will improve my battery (meter), because this ROM is very good! Thanks erasmux!
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] erasmux:
Just another small idea. Can you try playing with the JIT on/off and VM heap size under the cyanogen mod performance settings. Floyo's default is JIT on and VM size 16M. Worth checking JIT off, and VM size 32M with JIT on and off.

Does this effect the lag you are experiencing in any way?

Also what do you mean pinch zoom lags? It's not 100% smooth for me I admit, but its very responsive and as far as I can recall the situation with the sense ROMs I had was not better (I actually recall it was worse but thats prolly just psychological).
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Judim:
Yes. But you have to pay the full app. It's worth the price. I mean I have restored so many times all my apps...
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] cambria83:
I have been using this since its release and it is a fantastic ROM. I'm really happy with it for everyday use.

I am having a headache with USB connections though. Sometimes I'll plug it in and get no USB icons in notifications to allow me to mount it on my laptop. Then other times I'll unplug it and the USB icon will appear and stay there the whole time it is unplugged. If I try and press the USB notification it reboots my phone.\

Any ideas? It's really quite annoying.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] panwato:
Is BT Handsfree working?? I can't connect my hero with my parrot v5.23c
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Pikkuhannu:
Just get another Hero and flash this.

JUST AMAZING! :D

All works fine, looks brilliant.

Will stay on my phone...
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] e2zippo:
I'll definitely take a look and try that.

It's not the pinch zoom itself that lags, just the screen previews when they fade in and out. Not that much though, I'm just beeing really picky now :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] medo159:
Hey guys, I have the option "In-call touch UI" enabled and I can't disable it !

it's even in grey, I can't control it.

is it only me?

please if there is any solution let me know, I'm tired with suddenly hitting the "Hold" button during calls, I want to disable this in-call UI.

thanks :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] erasmux:
Where is that option?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] medo159:
Setting -> Call setting

"In-call touch UI"

it's enabled and I can't control it.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] erasmux:
Weird I don't have that option at all?! I certainly don't understand this....
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] medo159:
This is really weird !!

I use Floyo 1.01 , and changed the default theme for "SteelMyElegance".

anyway is there any way to disable the in-call touch UI ?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] floomat:
it could be that the modified settings.apk has got some differences to the original one of floyo. that would be a issue caused by porting this theme and forgot to check if there are diffs. maybe the porter can fix this?

another question, what exactly does this option do?

can you see any difference?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] medo159:
Hmmmm this makes a complete sense.

Disabling this option will remove the buttons in dialer (during calls), so if you want to hold, turn speaker on, mute, show keypad, you just press the "Menu" button and all these options comes on.

I find this useful when I was using Fusion!rom, because it's taking away that "Hold" button so I don't suddenly hit it during calls (this happens a lot!)

it will make the dialer look like this pic
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] pWopp:
Been using this ROM for a few weeks now, and it's absolutely briliant! I haven't had a single problem since - no lagging, no force closes, no random reboots, or anything else. Everything is just smooth and flawless.

I flashed this ROM straight on top of FroydVillain 1.5, only wiped Dalvik cache, and did the "Replace System Launcher" update right away, without booting to the ROM first.

The only thing that was slightly better in FroydVillain is battery life, but the difference is very minor, I still get at least 24 hours of medium/heavy use, and much more in light use (2-3 days).

So, cheers erasmux, for a solid piece of work!
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] banana9:
Superb rom, but...

...on income call it's ringing 2 or something even 3 times before display caller id on screen:confused:

How can I fix that :rolleyes: