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[Captivate Accessories] PhrProfess:
Hey,

While I understand that the Captivate's screen is made of Gorilla Glass, nothing is truly unscratchable... is it? It was said that the iPhone 3G's screen was, but then my friend went and picked his up off of a stone table: *scrAAAsh*... "ahhHH!!"

Do the Otter case-models < Defender (Commuter/Impact) provide any protection for the screen itself? The site's pictures aren't very clear, and neither are the specs.

Currently, I'm using a sh**y plastic protector (a generic, cut-it-yourself, no-name-brand "LCD Screen Protector"). It totally wackifies the screen's sex-appeal (it creates an oily/bubbly-looking finish). Earlier in the thread, some people mentioned that there might be a conflict between using one of these and the Otter case. I'd like to peel off and replace my current one; does anyone have a rec. for one that will not cause a conflict with the Otters? Better, could someone please explain why one would cause a conflict? (Does the Otter have one of its own built in? I've not used one before.)

Thanks

Also: Outlined simply, what are the differences between the Impact and the Commuter variations? The site's not very clear on that, either. Cheers
[Captivate Accessories] Little Dragon:
Some people have scratched their screens easily with keys and coins but usually you'd have to go outta your way to scratch up the glass. But its definitely not unscratchable. lol@your friends 3gs.

Thx for the pics. It does look bulky...moreso than on their website. But that's Otterbox for ya. Still can't wait for the Commuter
[Captivate Accessories] ri3tn:
Actually, both the Impact and Commuter series comes with their own screen protectors, so I assume that these can be used in conjunction with each individual case.
[Captivate Accessories] steveo102938:
DUDE, thanks for posting pics. That is a PURCHASE ITEM for sure.

Way to be.
[Captivate Accessories] swayze1:
1. The corners are definately thicker than the rest of the case.

2. I have had no trouble getting it in and out of my jeans with the case. The impact case material isn't sticky like the chinese cases floating around.

I will try to post some pics of the inside of the case when i have a minute
[Captivate Accessories] Paladuck:
After never getting my first case, I called Otterbox and they happily put in my order again. However, the order STILL hasn't been processed and I still never received any confirmation.

Will have to call them again tomorrow...but pretty irked right now.
[Captivate Accessories] pyrplhaze:
talked to a friend at school today who works at best buy. Apparently he's been told that the Defender/Commuter series isn't going to be out until sometime in December.

Hopefully that's some bunk info, but at this point it doesn't surprise me....been waiting too da,n long for this thing
[Captivate Accessories] spartan062984:
NooOooOooooooooo!!! Thats too long of a wait.....o well.

At least i know what is definitely going to be on the Christmas wish-list. :D
[Captivate Accessories] insaneturbo13:
i just posted a link to this thread on their twitter and facebook accounts telling them to take a look at just one example of a group of people that are awaiting this case.
[Captivate Accessories] pyrplhaze:
That's mighty good of ya, but it'd sure blow my mind if they actually cared. Decisions like this aren't made at the level of the underpaid/overworked employee who has been tasked with the unenviable task of overseeing a company's "Social Media Presence"

If they actually gave a damn, they would have a product by now. I'm sure the only reason they put up the site with pics was to shut everyone up.

I'm not trying to sound too pessimistic, but they've devoted all their resources to the iphone. That's their real moneymaker, and it's a guaranteed sell. As a finance guy, I can appreciate the motivation behind their decisions, but it's not gonna stop me from *****ing about my phone being sidelined as a result.
[Captivate Accessories] PhrProfess:
Yeah, f**k the iPhone!

:D
[Captivate Accessories] Paladuck:
Just kidding, got it in the mail today ;)
[Captivate Accessories] PhrProfess:
Oh yes, I see that now. Thanks. At the time, I was also wondering: if it came with one, would the type of screen-protector included be built into the case itself (à la the defender series)?—or, would it be a separately-applied one? It appears that the latter is the case.

And as to the differences between the Impact and the Commuter series—I now understand that the Impact series is one rubber layer, and the Commuter series is one (slightly different) rubber layer, as well as a plastic shell that slips on over-top of the rubber. Both come with stick-on, separately-applied screen-guards. Is that correct?
[Captivate Accessories] spartan062984:
LOL

+1

:::thumbs up:::
[Captivate Accessories] Paladuck:
Got my Impact in the mail and I think I'm going to return it. It definitely provides more protection than the Body Glove but I don't really like the extra bulk it adds. I also prefer that the BG is a little less squishy.

Anyway the Impact looks and feels exactly as advertised but I don't think it's my bag of chips.
[Captivate Accessories] spartan062984:
Interesting. When you say "less squishy"......does the actual material of the cover itself feels like the kind that will "stick" inside pockets (jeans/ pants)? I've seen the pictures of the earlier post, but i was also afraid that it might not be the kind of casing i was looking for. Reading your post has just proven that.

Let me guess, it didn't have plugs for the ports as well right? (3mm jack) <---I'm usually very picky with getting dust trapped inside and what not. Thats just me.
[Captivate Accessories] Paladuck:
The first pics are hi-res, so I linked them instead of using an IMG tag. The rest are taken from my crappy laptop webcam.

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8234/20101102210414.jpg

Body Glove (BG) on top, Otterbox Impact (OB) on bottom. The OB has much thicker "waffle" padding than the BG.

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/2720/20101102210430.jpg

Back view, BG on top, OB on bottom.

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/9684/20101102210500.jpg

Side view of BG. Cutouts for volume and power buttons.

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/1854/20101102210509.jpg

Side view of OB. No cutouts, making it slightly more difficult to press, but nothing unreasonable.

The OB is more bulky than the BG, especially on the top. Note that it covers the AT&T logo with cutouts for the speaker and camera.

I also did not like how easily the OB could be manipulated - I'm barely tugging at the sides and they move freely.

The BG has a slimmer profile. The material is harder, which contributed to some dust getting under the case and scratching my phone. But no case is an airtight seal, I guess.

The size difference is most apparent at the top of the case. Both can be gripped very easily. The cutouts on the OB (pictured right) look misshapen but when you put the phone in they look quite nice.

The OB also seems more lint prone - the material tends to get dust and other pocket gunk stuck to it, but a static dust cloth gets if off easily. I did not notice the OB being any harder to remove from a pocket, other than the fact that it's larger.

The OB (left) is much squishier than the BG (right). I tried to apply roughly the same pressure to both cases. I have no doubt that the OB would protect better against a fall than the BG, but I think I just personally prefer a harder case and the OB is not a hard case.

In conclusion, sorry if I seem biased in favor of the Body Glove, but I hope the pictures speak for themselves and will help you make an informed decision. :)
[Captivate Accessories] insaneturbo13:
awesome! thanks for the comparison pics and details!
[Captivate Accessories] PhrProfess:
Fourth pic down is trippy

Yes, thank you very much, Paladuck! Shock-protec' looks very good.
[Captivate Accessories] silverslotcar:
I too bought the body glove and the Otterbox Impact. From my experience, I like the OB Impact better. The body glove diddn't fit right on my cappy. It felt like it was cheaply made and one of the plastic clips that is meant to lock it around the phone just didn't want to stay clicked and I hated that a lot. As for the dust, its true, the OB Impact does collect some dust but it's quite easy to get it right off. The Impact fits perfectly, I think its the best rubberized case there is for the cappy and its only twenty bucks. Once again, its probably personal opinion, but I prefer the Impact. Didn't like body glove at all.

EDIT: PS: The OB Impact does NOT stick when sliding in and out of jean pockets, etc.
[Captivate Accessories] spartan062984:
+ 1

These are REALLY helpful and good posts. I will say that based on your pics, there are a few things that i liked about the OB that i didn't think i would.

Otterbox:

(+) For being more a bit more bulky and squishy ( I actually don't mind the bulkiness. It helps me feel at ease when the "unfortunate" happens )

(+) For the fact that it covers the sides (volume). Giving minimal chances of getting dust/ sand/ dirt/ gunk INSIDE where it can scratch the phone. Which brought me to my question about the covering for the 3mm jack.

(+) For covering att logo <---That's just me

(-) Lint prone

(-) Manipulative. Something about it tells me: "what good is protection when it can easily be removed. Its like having a firewall / security that can easily be breached."

Any chances you could post for the Defender and/or Commuter cases? lol :D

I had the BG, and i know exactly what you mean about "cheaply made." However, are you referring to the actual plastic snap ons for the BG? The BG i had is the same exact one that Paladuck has (rubber/ one piece). I don't remember having "plastic clips meant to lock it around the phone" piece....? Anyways, thanks for verifying on the "stick and slide."

"To Android...!!"
[Captivate Accessories] andrewsomething:
My Otterbox impact just showed up tonight. While I think I like it, I rushed off to this thread just to report this fact. I afraid dust will get into the case from the sides as they are so manipulable, even with the phone inside.

That said, I like the feel of it a lot. There's a nice textured grip on the back. And while I'm not going to test it, I also feel pretty assured that it can take a fall well.

Thanks for the coupon code further up thread! It was still working for me as of the other day. For under $20, and free shipping, it's a great deal.
[Captivate Accessories] spartan062984:
Am I reading this right? You said OB Commuter.....i just checked the website.....

nothing there about ordering the Commuter. Not saying that you are lying or anything, but i would LOVE to see pics so i can decide whether or not to go with that or the Defender.

However you got yours, and for only 20 dollars, i would like to know how....if its possible of course. :D

Otherwise, good find!
[Captivate Accessories] andrewsomething:
Oops. Sorry, I meant Impact. Edited above.
[Captivate Accessories] spartan062984:
No Biggie. I was getting a little pumped there....I saw your post and i was like:

"No Way!"
[Captivate Accessories] fmenigat:
Man, I cannot wait for this defender case. I just had the dustiest day at work, and even though I kept my phone in the truck it still got coated. This cheap rubber-jelly case is not cutting it. I'll be keeping my phone in a ziploc bag on days like this from now on. (I've also heard a non-lubricated condom works quite well in a pinch, fyi)
[Captivate Accessories] emjee87:
Just to add a few things...

First, at one point in time, every person in my family was rocking some iteration of the iPhone...my brothers and I are at the gym a lot and they both had Otterboxes for their iPhone 4 and iPhone 3gs respectively, and those things could withstand a lot of punishment. This company makes great cases.

My mother had an Otterbox for her 3gs and then iPhone 4, and she has arthritis and is just a dropper in general, and they both proved to be quite durable. I will attest to their attraction to lint, though.

The only downside to them, in my opinion, was their screen protectors tendency to show bubbles. I intend to buy the Commuter series when they come out, and will probably try out other screen protectors, or leave it off entirely.

On a semi-unrelated note, to the people commenting on the back of the iPhone 4 being vulnerable to scratches...I'm pretty sure it's been determined by a number of sources that while the front glass is Gorilla Glass, the back is not. I recall the Engadget review commenting on it, and I believe Phonedog as well.
[Captivate Accessories] SWINGR:
Not a happy camper. I order the case on Oct 23rd. Didn't hear anything so I called a week ago and talked to Amber. Said she would order it for me, and get it sent out. Today, another week later, I have not seen it. I called again, and they say they have no history of me. I ordered it again today so we will see.

I'm just saying, if you don't get the email that its shipped within 3-4 days after ordering online, start calling.

The only thing I am glad about is that no money has been taken out yet. I would gladly pay for each and every case, if they would just send me 1. I am only asking for 1. Please. If it doesn't show up this time, I am giving up.
[Captivate Accessories] jpinks:
I really dont understand how they dont have these cases out after all this time. Getting a Otterbox for it was my last concern when I bought this phone but damn come on Otterbox be men give us something :mad::mad::mad::mad:
[Captivate Accessories] iakovl:
i'm thinking about buying the Impact due to the fact that the others are not out yet, and it's the best case i can find right now

(+) removes the AAT > a big bonus :)
[Captivate Accessories] eternalcold:
An email, and a response.

So, i sent an email to ottorbox about the captivate Defender case. Here is the conversation:

Their Response

So... It seems we wont be getting this case any time soon... :(
[Captivate Accessories] BigJayDogg3:
Did you really expect a different answer?

They can either risk losing you and a few other people as customers for this particular case, or losing many customers because they provided an ETA they they may not be able to meet. I'm far more forgiving of a company that tells me they're producing something and aren't sure when it will ship than I am one that keeps pushing back the release day.

They still handled it better than I would have.
[Captivate Accessories] shawn122:
Commuter Case is now available from the website.

I received the email today :)
[Captivate Accessories] emjee87:
I literally just bought a Samsung Focus yesterday and returned my Captivate...and then I wake up this morning to get an e-mail saying the Commuter was released. FML.
[Captivate Accessories] Enhanced:
Anyone have any coupons that they won't be using? I live in Canada and they case comes out to $45 after shipping is added. A bit steep so if anyone has a coupon, it would be greatly appreciated.

PM please :)

Thanks.
[Captivate Accessories] spartan062984:
OtterBox Commuter Case

If you guys, or anyone else out there, can post pics on the Commuter, it would be greatly appreciated. I might be leaning towards the Commuter, but i am patient enough (not really) to wait for the Defender and compare specs vs the Commuter.
[Captivate Accessories] sixk:
Here is a coupon

10% off and free shipping.

tb1010y
[Captivate Accessories] Dnorwood:
Sweet just ordered mine.
[Captivate Accessories] insaneturbo13:
Thanks so much! Just made my order!
[Captivate Accessories] kronck:
Bah...placed my order this morning and then saw this!
[Captivate Accessories] shawn122:
If anyone gets the commuter case...please post pics if you can. I am interested in a hands on look.

Many thanks! :)
[Captivate Accessories] sixk:
im sure its hella lot better than the samsung case that i got.... arg... after the drop it keeps coming apart haha... what a waste...
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] marada2:
I have just purchased an X10mini pro and have been playing around with it today. I was wondering if apps are always installed on the card, or are they sometimes installed on the phones memory? How do I change the default location of where apps are installed?

From what I gather Linux based distros are different in that they don't have a registry etc. When an app is run is it purely from the .apk location or are different files from the app copied to different locations when the app is installed?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] aPaullyG:
They're pretty much universally installed to the phones memory though some software will install additional data to sd. It's an unfortunate limitation of Android 1.6, if an when we get 2.2 this'll change. On a rooted phone there should be ways around this but I haven't looked into it personally.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] marada2:
Ok thanks for clearing that up. I have now rooted my phone and see that the default location for apps is /system/app/. Does everything to do with the program just reside there (like a portable app) or are program libraries etc copied to other locations within the phone? For things like email programs where do they store the individual emails?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] benjymous:
/system/app/ contains all the "system" applications (i.e. the stuff that's pre-installed on the phone) - you can't usually change these, unless you've got root access

/data/ is the user writeable section of the phone's memory - /data/app/ is where the stuff you install goes, along with the data any running apps save (unless they're specifically programmed to save stuff to the sd card instead)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] marada2:
So the email program at /system/app/ Email.apk where does that store it's emails? Does it store the emails in /data/ or somewhere else? What about browser cache, where is that stored?

Does anyone know where I can download a guide on file structure to try and understand what exactly does what?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Amy7:
Ok, sorry to be a noob to all this rooting stuff but I'm interested dual booting capibilities. I have all these apps on my old phone (winmo 6) so it would really rock if I could run both android and winmo apps on my EVO. My 1st question is, would rooting my phone give me dual booting capiblities (assuming I had a rom for winmo)? my second question is, would I even need to root my phone for this or is there some kind of winmo emulator that runs windmo apps on android?
[Android Software Development] neonkevo:
hi

I am the owner of a small, not-for-profit website. Hoping to find a free or inexpensive android coder to create a simple rss feed reader app for our website. I searched around and there seems to be plenty of open source rss readers that could be customized for this. I also will supply all of the icons/artwork necessary.

If you are interested, please contact me at ps2dev at gmail.com or by private message here.
[Android Software Development] neonkevo:
bump to the top
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wangxiaohu:
I'm not satisfied by the out-of-box apps from official rom. But I need this rom because it seems to be the only rom that is in English locale (for work) and support Chinese viewing/input.

Any help?

Thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] gromky:
It doesn't exist! I looked forever and didn't find anything. This rom is the best stock rom for Rhodium, but nobody has made a cooked rom based on it. I had to install Energy Rom. Follow my instructions here to get Chinese working on Energy. You don't say if it's simplified or traditional, though.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] gromky:
In this thread I asked the same question. You can check there for the replies: not much help.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wangxiaohu:
Yes, you are right. It is the best official ROM I've ever used.

One thing I'm concerned about is that, if you hack the non-Asian ROM to support CJK font, the ActiveSync will stop working since due to locale inconsistency. That happened for my old HTC Wizard. This is why I'm looking for a English ROM that supports CJK natively.

Or does ActiveSycn to Exchange work for you?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] gromky:
Ah. I'm not sure. ActiveSync works, but I only use it for file transfers. Microsoft Exchange is a dangerously insecure piece of software.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] svpb:
I have come across the following radios and am looking for experience and opinion

[3.22 radios]

3.22.20.17 -- testing now-- skipped right to 26.17 the first time

3.22.23.18

3.22.26.17 -- tested-- issues with callwaiting --

I find much better quality on the 6.35.10.18 but there is no kernel that will do camera for froyo so i will make due with 3.22 for now
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] churro7:
using cm6 vanilla froyo sept09

i notice that when it reverts to 1x the signal strength increases dramatically

id love to be able to toggle force it is it possible?
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ASimmons:
goto add widget and select the power control widget, once in there add the option of 2g/3g that should work.

edit: odd doesn't seem to be working. ass in the cyanogen q and a thread.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] churro7:
yeah it doesnt work neither for stock fw
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] churro7:
what im looking for is pretty much switching from preferred evdo mode to cmda only as at my moms place 1xrtt is much stronger than 3g
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jasonlefever:
Uh, why would you want 2g ONLY?
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] churro7:
for one it has a stronger signal in certain places i frequent and it is better than roaming

slow data is better than no data
[Galaxy S I9000 General] krhorne:
My sms function stopped working the other day. I was running JPC on a I9000M.

I flashed back to JG8 and still didn't work. I have the same APN setting as before, while it was working.

Any ideas?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] PhoenixFx:
APN settings are used for data based services. For SMSs you need to check the Message Center number (Messaging > Settings > Message Center). Call your operator and verify the number you already have.
[HD2 General] dentalan:
My SDHC 8GB card was working OK the last 6months. Today I noticed that the phone was freezing when sliding down at the contents of the root folder of the card in file explorer. I moved the 2 files (using my PC) at a different folder and the pone freezed when I was in that folder. Finaly I deleted them.

Now, after 79-10 hours I noticed that I was having the same problem in the "My documents" folder o the device memory.

Does anyone know anything about this?
[HD2 General] kurt-willems:
First of all make a backup of your SD card continent, and do a SD format. the needed application is built in your rom.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tchem:
:confused: well i was in my yahoo email and tryed to copy the text on one of my emails and it said text copyed to clip board, there is no cipboard app on the phone so what is it talking about? i have no idea where it copyed it too
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tytdfn:
Um does it just copy it to the system keyboard?

To copy you should hold a texbox and copy all or whatever.

And then to paste you gotta hold the destination textbox again and select paste

Sent from my fonez so excuze the speling erors
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alphadog00:
Adding a subject to your title - other then one word "Help" will get more responses.
[HD2 General] SnakeBites:
would it work on T-MO hd2??

HTCSense.com

cause the site for now isnt running
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
it hasnt launched yet, , , , its launching when the HTC Desire HD and HTC Desire Z launch, , , some time mid october.
[HD2 General] SnakeBites:
but u think it would work on the T-Mo HD2 or it fits the desire sense and stuff cause the sense thier sounds pretty awesome

thx
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] tm81:
Im looking for a signal streght/ Db meter for my phone. Currently running Energyrom, Touch pro 2, CDMA (Verizon). Ive tried searching the forums and using google, even tring bing, but couldnt find one. I know they are available for blackberry and android, but couldnt come across one for winmo. Any suggestions. Thanks in advance for your help.