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[Desire General] aindow:
When your contract is up you could ask to be transferred to a sim only plan, or do the upgrade through someone like Carphone Warehouse as they use unbranded phones.
[Desire General] Lennyuk:
Or immediately sell your branded one, and buy an unbranded one :)
[Desire General] leroy:
This is a second generation snapdragon processor - doesnt use as much power and uses the spead better - so dont need as large as desire.

i like the speed of the startup - its instant!
[Desire General] Lennyuk:
that startup speed is because of the new re-designed sense not the handset speed.

My educated guess is that its because the phone infact never turns off properly, it just goes into a very deep sleep like blackberries operate. If this is true then you will get a quick boot from "power off" but booting from recovery will be a long process.

If I was looking for a new phone now you have to be aware that Android 3.0 is not far away 3-4 months most likely and newer handsets will be out soon.
[Desire General] th3:
It's far superior performance wise but it gulps much more power too; off, standby, idle and load .

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- Sent via my HTC Desire -
[Desire General] dik23:
Ok...

TMob UK do the Desire for free on a 24 month x £30 = £720

The same number of mins and txt sim only cost £15 x 12 months = £180

To make it fair we'll do it over 24 months so sim only = £360

So you have £360 to spend on the phone. I got mine brand new, sim free off ebay about a month ago for £350. I could have got it for less if I'd got it second hand. I could have also bought a phone that the networks aren't offering.

I have the added advantage that my company paid for it so I get tax off which makes the handset even cheaper but even if I hadn't it'd work out the same - apart from I'm not stuck in a 24 month contract, I get a sim free phone which has no branding and runs 2.2OTA with no rooting long before TMob get round to it. The lack of branding is useful for me too because it means all of the carrier data is on the phone meaning that when I put a different (foreign) sim in it automatically sets up the data and mms for the new network.
[Desire General] !PANDA:
isnt it the same as the one we have in our Desire? well, just checked the official htc site and its 600 mhz! thank got I did not get that then!
[Desire General] foxmeister:
Except that you only get a 1GB data allowance (FUP) with your SIM only deal, and you've used your flexible booster in order to get it.

With the contract, you get a 3GB data allowance (FUP) and you still have your flexible booster.

So, it isn't strictly like for like, since on contract you get more.

Regards,

Dave
[Desire General] MrUsta:
No. Desire has 1st gen Snapdragon.

Desire Z (and Desire HD) come with the 2nd gen Snapdagons, which are evidently improved.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Desire Z performing equal if not better than Desire...

At least the graphics are better due to the improved GPU.
[Desire General] DroidBois:
OK my wife wants one so I suppose that's a good idea, and it's an incremental improvement so us Desire owners should not feel shafted by HTC *YET*???
[Desire General] leroy:
You get shafted whatever phone you get, especially with the speed HTC are pumping them out!
[Desire General] snudel:
desire is still fine. so its your decission. you want a new phone or not.

desire should go well via ebay.

so decide if you want a new or not.

i will go for desire z.

i am typing too much emails. so this is worth the price.

either my wife gets the desire or i will put in on ebay.
[Desire General] DarkInovator:
I don't think getting a new phone now is a good thing.

I'm going to stick with my Desire until after Google I/O 2011. I wana know exactly how far off Gingerbread is so I wont have to go thew the hole froyo update thing.
[Desire General] DroidBois:
I really thought Gingerbread was more aimed at tablets and gaming so not really a big deal if we don't get it? I've ordered the HTC Desire Z for my wife now, she really is insistent on having a keyboard. Looks like a great device.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gqstatus0685:
I'm getting error message: "Error occurred while processing the ROM list!"

I'm using the donate version of ROM Manager and I've already uninstalled it rebooted and installed again. I also tried accessing it over wifi and it's the same issue with that error message. I'm using CM6 Stable release and I'm wanting to go back to Fresh since I'm getting network errors on CM6. Can anyone chime in on this?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Smaulz:
You're not alone, I've had the same problem since I started using Rom Manager a few weeks ago. No idea why though.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gqstatus0685:
Yeah I did a couple of google searches and people are having the same issue. I don't know if it has something to do with the servers. What ROM are you using by the way?

I know I can just download the ROM and throw it on my SD card but I like the ability to download on the go and install. Some ROMs show up perfectly in ROM manager but there are a select few that give that error.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Smaulz:
Sorry, wasn't keeping up with this thread. I'm using BakedSnack 1.7 (2.6.32.15 HeroMod), and the battery life is killer. I think I'm going to stick with it for a while.

As far as Rom Manager, Fresh's Roms are the only ones that don't show up. Not a big deal, just kinda weird.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fmedina2:
For the past 3 days my battery is dropping at an incredibly fast rate. Even if its idle it will drop about 20 % every half hour with little to no use. I rooted my phone and am now running fresh with kings kernel but no change. I an even dropping in airplane mode. What can it be? I left it at 90% connected to wifi with the sync off and when I woke up 6 hours later it was at 20%. Any solutions?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] guesswhatimevan:
Sounds like mine, just turning on the screen drops the batter 1-2%.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheMagicalSock:
Hit menu and click on settings. From there, go to About Phone and then to Battery. Note the awake time and turn the screen off for thirty seconds or so. Turn the screen back on and check the awake time again. If it's not within five to ten seconds of the time you noted before you turned the screen off, something is keeping your phone awake, which does a number on the battery.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fachadick:
square parts or system panel might give a better idea of what specifically is draining your battery, or preventing it from sleeping correctly.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fmedina2:
It seems fine, about 15 seconds difference. The weird thing is this only started happening about 3 days ago, I rooted yesterday, and its still doing it.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheMagicalSock:
Go for what Fachadick said. Download and install Spare Parts from the Android Market. Go to Battery History and click on the dropdown box where it says "other usage" and click on "partial wake usage". If anything is taking up one of those bars, that's your problem.

If there's nothing notable there, it could be damn near any of your applications. When you root, you lose settings for you apps (depending on how you rooted), so your autosyncs could be going crazy. Might wanna check those.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neodorian:
What he said :D Rooting won't fix battery issues. Rooting and installing a new ROM is just like reinstalling your OS. It can fix things or not depending on how it is configured. Likewise it won't fix your phone if hardware is bad.

does it drop steadily or just the first 5-10% or so? There is a well documented issue where the trickle charge stops at 100% and then shuts off so the phone actually drains a bit before it kicks in again. When you first unplug it, the reading may drop quickly until it reaches the real level.

Likewise depending on what you have installed and how it is set up, there may be something keeping your phone from sleeping. Check for partial wake use like the previous poster said and that will tell you what process/application is keeping your phone awake and draining battery.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ninja25:
i had this same problem about the battery before i rooted my phone. after i rooted it i got overclock widget and i get through the day with so much more battery left. i make sure my battery is full right before i go to bed, i put it on airplane mode and go to bed wake up around 7 a.m.(my battery is always at 98 when i get up in the morning so 2% in about 8 hrs) and i get home around 8:30 and my battery is at 48%. and no i dont leave it lying around with the screen off. i constantly go on, text, internet etc.

hope it works for you too!

your friend.

Ninja25
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] trhonda2000:
I am having this same problem and it started about 2 days ago. I downloaded Spare parts and looked up the partial usage (screenshots attached). I'm not sure what I'm suppose to determine from this. Mail is showing with more fill-in than any other program, when I click on it, I get the details. Can someone help?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fachadick:
It doesn't appear (to me anyway) that you're having any issues with partial wake time. You may have a runaway app draining your battery and cpu - system panel is invaluable for hunting those down. It will show you each running process with exacly how much cpu it's used. It gets even better and gives evenmore detail if you let it monitor your system over time.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kthejoker20:
turn off latitude
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fachadick:
How did you get that from his screens? Not doubting you, but where do you see that?

Sent from my blah blah blah blah
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] trhonda2000:
Thanks for the help fachadick, where would I get "System Panel" from? Couldn't find in the market.

P.S. - I'm a lady LOL
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fachadick:
There I go, letting my prejudices get ahead of me again, sorry about that.:) I think in the market it’s called systempanel – one word.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] trhonda2000:
So will the free version pinpoint the problem, or would I need to do the paid version?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fachadick:
to be honest, I'm not sure - I don't remember what kind of detail it gives you in the free version, but the app is so useful to monitor cpu and battery, as well as for hunting down rougue apps, I would recommend the paid version as a "required" app for all rooters.

when you load it up, the default screen is essentially a taskkiller - but more importantly, you can go into settings and have it show ALL processes, and if you select one of the apps or processes from that main screen, it tells you when it was started, how much cpu it used, how much memory its used, and at least in the paid version, a historical graph of cpu usage - so you can see exactly when it used the cpu over the past 2 hours, 8 hours, 1 day, 3 days, or over the past week.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wlpywd:
Me Too - "Android System" extremely high - Stock 2.2

This is also happening to me from 4 days ago. I haven't installed any new apps in the last 15 days or so, and for good measure, i uninstalled the last 10 apps i installed before that. When i check battery usage, the "Android System" takes up between 60 and 70 percent. When i open it, it lists like this:

Bluetooth is off, 4g is off (when's cincinnati going live already!??! Just the heart of downtown and the mall)

Wifi is off, and I've been turning off gps now, but i always used to leave it on and made it through the day.

"Cell Standby" is next with 8%, everything else below that.

I kill everything with task manager now and it doesn't seem to help at all.

It is not possible to exaggerate how fast the battery is being drained. It drops by 1-2% each 45 seconds or so. I've done the Charge-for-8-hours-turn-off-charge-trickle-charge-unplug-trickle-charge-unplug-etc thing last night and no help. This is with no widgets installed, no live wallpaper, no music, when for months i can make it through the day with a little pandora, bluetooth while driving, a game or two, internet, maps, and several other apps throughout the day. I've stopped everything but messaging and phone calls and it still drains just as fast.

PLEASE HELP!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nhutpham:
I don't know if this applies to anyone in this thread, but after installing a new rom sometimes I forget that the Gtalk/Gchat app resets itself to automatically sign in, and drains the battery while running in the background.

Changing it to not run automatically helps out for me, although I feel that I may have gotten slightly better battery life out of the rooted stock rom than running the King kernel I'm using right now. At least in terms of percentage drop. I never really reset my battery stats or recalibrate after installing a new rom, don't know how much that has an effect on the readings.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wlpywd:
This is turning into a deal breaker

Its not latitude, off. Not ANYTHING as it still happens with everything off and all apps killed in task manager.

No background, no live wallpaper (even though i used to have one all day). No music (even though i used to have pandora on a couple hours a day). screen brightness is always low (even though i used to leave it above medium, and would turn it up to high to watch video or a game, and still made it most of the day before).

The phone's battery use thing swears its "Android System" thats taking by far the most, not even cell standby got larger when i unplugged it in the basement where there's no service.

i've turned off everything i could think of, no apps 'auto update' and i've put all syncing and updating and stuff to manual or off that i could find.

I don't think its a faulty battery because it is ridiculously noticeable that something has changed in that ANDROID SYSTEM is now a power hog. Why and what do to?????
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fachadick:
Have you pulled the battery lately? Give that a shot.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] squiggie:
If it is the android system, you could potentially have a rogue file on your SD card. Backup the files you nee off the sd card and format it. After that try clearing battery stats in recovery and charging 100% with the phone turned off.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clavin78:
Hi, I'm missing the gmail and fm radio apks. I backup up using titanium then unistalled them not knowing Titanium only backs up their data. What I'm wondering is where I can find the individual APKs. Thanks in advance!

Edit: Search function is a great thing. Nvm
[Wildfire General] tigger69:
If i extract the rom.zip from a RUU .exe, what is the best way to install it? I have clockwork recovery installed.

Thanks.
[Wildfire General] dieseljohn44:
first of all backup your rom

extract all img files from that zip file

now replace boot.img and system.img of clockword recovery backup with extracted

generate md5 sum of all all .img files in terminal or using adb

boot your phone in recovery mode

clean and format all partition data,system,boot and cache

now in nandroid under advance restore restore boot and system partition
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] lunarken:
i've try installing mod apk.. but my x10 keep saying cannot be install.... why?:confused:
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] Mobzter:
Which mod apk?
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] Wolfbreak:
Snowstorm is a Weather Widget and you can select Transparent Background i dont know what you mean but you can try it when you want a transparent Background Weather Widget.
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] lunarken:
ok problem solved..
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] TrietHocNhanSinh:
Is it a free widget app ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MisterMonitor:
Hello ,

Now im thinking which phone to buy. I like Galaxy S but i read that samsung have a lot of problems(gps, lag, slow UI, Very slow when you install more programs, slow on multitasking) and etc. So is there good ROM for Galaxy S to fix it and make a galaxy as functional as htc desire ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TrOjAnUK:
if you want to be able to mod your phone easy my advice is stay away from samsung, I have one and its very unfriendly
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] decepticon:
There are no true custom roms for the Galaxy S yet, there are modded roms that reqire specific base roms first.

Cyanogenmod has the Galaxy Series on it's roadmap but there is no working release yet.

HTC phones are the best if you want many options for custom roms and quick releases of future updates but overall I am pretty happy with my Galaxy S even though I do miss the options I had with my Magic in terms of roms.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MisterMonitor:
Im not looking a phone to mod it, im asking are the ROMs will make galaxy much better than stock and functional like a HTC Desire ? Because its necsesary to write a rom in a galaxy S
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] decepticon:
I never had any issues with GPS on my phone, it worked fine for me driving around.

The lag is a minor annoyance at best. The new JPH Froyo build seems to be running pretty well for me so far, just installed it this morning and is solid thus far.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cyberz:
What?? :)

I have purchased HTC for year and I never happy with it!

Now have a Galaxy S and it is another, better world!

For the first time, after many year with htc device, have seen my Galaxy S in top of all other device in Quadrant benchmark, 2307! From now, Samsumg rock!

I still have Eclair JM7, but it is always stable, fast UI, no problem with gps at all(as already sayd), a lot of apps installed ...all good!

The only thing, have installed clagfix.

Who had say to you that things, probably doesn't know Galaxy S ;)

Regards
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cantIntoCode:
Highly doubt you got that score without One Click Lag Fix. The normal Quadrant score is around 800. If it wasn't for the people on XDA our phones won't be anywhere near as awesome as they are now :D!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] carlocb:
Well, if choice is between desire or galaxy s, you can choose the sgs with your eyes closed. As soon as we will have a stable froyo with voodoo kernel stable release, this phone will ROCK! :D I would wait new HTC models though...

On second thought, *MOVE* this ****ing thread, wrong section! :P
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] draxionangel:
He said he used CLagFix, so very possible to get 2k+ Quadrant.

As for GPS stuff, my GPS works 60% of the time, and struggles the rest, I feel like it's kind of hit and miss depending on which ROM you are using, GPS settings, possibly area you are in, etc.

Also, I absolutely love this phone(I have a captivate but w/e still a Galaxy S, and I use I9000 ROM's anyway), and find it pretty easy to mod, and it's pretty much unbrickable.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrwookie6379:
Not true really TBH. Look at how much hassle you have to go to to root a HTC Desire for example with creating a goldcard then flashing an old firmware the finally being able to root it where as the Galaxy can be done from a simple update zip.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gnowak84:
Yes, but we cannot be sure customs roms will eventually arrive. Imho all devs will go for Desire Hd and Desire Z ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] catanzaro27:
And that will happen like in a year or so the way things move know...
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Frostfree:
The lag is becoming less of an issue with newer ROMs but the GPS has a problem with accuracy regardless of what anyone here tells you. GPS was slow to fix in earlier firmwares but corrected in subsequent releases, this led some to claim that GPS is fixed, you'll see several comments from people waxing lyrical about getting GPS signal indoors when they couldn't before, but take it out into inner city roads when traffic is crawling a bit and it gets very confused placing you in the wrong lanes/directions etc due to poor accuracy.... basically it fails where even my old HTC magic excels, however drive on wide lane motorways and it's near flawless because accuracy isn't as critical.

Personally I'll still choose the SGS ahead of the Desire, but if you're not willing to tinker at all, then wait to see what improvements froyo delivers or choose the Desire because the JF3 firmware that ships out with most is awful, frustrating... useless!!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Keefo:
Not true... i rooted a Desire yesterday, never done it before on a desire and took me like 5 mins haha

plug phone in PC, and run unrevoked... simple...
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cyberz:
Hi,

true, about 896. But still true which is a system partitioning bad configuration, not hardware issue ;)

I hope Samsung fix the lag in next release!

Regards
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] donkeyhitman:
If it took you 5 mins then it's true. It probably took less than 30 secs to root my SGS.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wire103:
If I knew what I know today

.... I would never have traded my Nexus One for a Galaxy S. Here's why:

Spec wise the Galaxy S is the better phone. In real world, its utterly horrible. I suspect that the phone has not problems in the hardware, but the software really kills the experience.

What's great about it:

- It has Swype keyboard, and thats really impressive. Alas, it's not something Samsung created, they just bought it.

- Great camera application with lots of functions, takes great pictures. This is in my opinion the best thing Samsung has brought to this product.

- Acceptable battery lifetime, compared to similar phones.

- Reliable bluetooth operation, this is my first Android phone that works every time and all the time in my car.

What I expected but did not get:

- A screen that performed better outdoors. I washes out completely, and is not any better than the other phones I have had. It is bigger though.

What's driving me nuts:

- Exchange sync sucks bigtime. I keep loosing all my contacts until I force sync it again. My calendar doesnt work at all. Coming from CM6 on Nexus One I'm used to everything just working.

- Lag. This is supposed to be a fast phone. It's not in any way fast doing anything at all. If I upgrade an application from the Market, I can forget about using the phone until it has finished installing. Its a snail, and I don't care if its caused by the filesystem, the kernel or just Samsungs programmers. Its totally unacceptable and shows that this phone should not have been released. (Oh yeah, I am running lagfix, that doesnt really help, it just pushes the problem a bit ahead in time)

What Samsung couldn't bother to implement:

- Working GPS. My Nexus One and HTC Magic has far better GPS precision (and I'm not talking about fix time, which is also horrible on the Samsung). I'm glad I'm not using it for navigation.

- Stereo FM. Come on Samsung, this is 2010. I'm not using it, but why include it half heartedly?

What Samsung found more fun to do instead:

- Selection of three custom fonts, of which two are too ugly to use. Seriously?

- Widget that shows how many applications are running. Who cares about that, isn't Android supposed to end all this focusing on what is running and what is not ....

- Four different phones released that are basically the same. "The GPS isn't working. Should we fix it? Nah, lets make a phone version with four software buttons instead."

I'm about to give up on this thing. I upgraded my HTC Magic to CM6 the other day, and it seems to be running circles around my Galaxy S.

My only problem if I'm giving up on this phone, is what to get instead. Maybe the HTC Desire HD, but again it's basically the same as my Nexus One with just a bigger screen.