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[Vibrant General] smashpunks:
ILL JUST HELP YALL FROM WAITING.

THIS WILL NOT BE RELEASED TODAY, IF SO WE WOULD HAVE ATLEAST HEARD SOMETHING ABOUT IT OTHER THAN IN THE OP...

IT WAS BELIEVABLE UNTIL RIGHT NOW.

Sorry for the caps just want to get your attention.

WILL NOT be released.... For those who still are hoping are sadly mistaken.

EDIT: Not only that but the OP hasnt been posting here since the 14th when this was made.
[Vibrant General] henreeg:
Today is the 20th.

:O
[Vibrant General] 1eyedjack:
Still waiting... :eek:
[Vibrant General] Mark271:
Good job tiger!
[Vibrant General] Digital_Warrior:
Well this is fun. Guess they got the year wrong. Honest mistake anyone could have confused 2011 with 2010. I mean come on it is like only one digit off.
[Vibrant General] d_bot:
hmmm today is d-day, and yet no word from anyone, but the day is young, and my hope rages on! However i am going to lean toward a middle of the week release say maybe the 22nd or 23rd ;) and if it doesn't come out those days, then I will opt for the 30th of september, but knowing samsung's record, (they tend to use "Valve Time" http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time) So when they say "in September" what they probably mean is "November"

But it's funny we rage and rage that we "want froyo NOW!!" and if they released it now, we would rage and rage that "froyo feels like it was just slapped together and never really finished for the vibrant" OF COURSE it was because the nerd rage forced them to release an unfinished product.......or if samsung holds onto froyo, tweaking and testing it, then we rage and rage about how fail samsung is, and how long they take to get out an update. Truthfully I would hate to be working/deving in an industry so full of nerd rage, it's either damned if you do or damned if you don't, there is no "they did this just right" (unless it's apple fanboys talking about the new i<product here>) ok im done now...... /rant
[Vibrant General] ram130:
It's obvious really. All the signs are there. It's just for you to follow. This update is not happening this week. I do know for a fact though, if no update come by the time October starts. I will for ever loose faith in Samsung to clean their mess.
[Vibrant General] KerryG:
I called my TMO salesperson today and got a definitive date, its going to be released in conjunction with Duke Nukem 3D!
[Vibrant General] gunks:
English fail.
[Vibrant General] Col.Kernel:
Looks like no OTA installed for me yet.

Looks like I called TMo to get instructions to side load it.

Looks like I spent almost an hour on hold only to find that whatever ESL speaker I got a hold of said "No OTA for Vibrant today"

Looks like your cred just went negative. Way negative.
[Vibrant General] DreamcastDC:
If by the end of September I don't see any sort of update from Samsung, this will be my last Samsung phone. I don't mind waiting for Froyo, all I want is a update that fixes my GPS, compass and the lag, that's all.
[Vibrant General] flameinthefire:
Epic fail...
[Vibrant General] ProximaC:
Very true. As we say in my office, "you can please some of the people some of the time, but you can never please end users."
[Vibrant General] iwillkillyou:
Guys seriously? Still you do is nag WANT. this phone is still new, its only been out 3 months. like is it really that bad?
[Vibrant General] KerryG:
AuraspeeD,

Got an update for us? We are waiting with baited breath to hear what happened with the update today. Since you have the "official word", could you enlighten all of us?
[Vibrant General] KerryG:
The GPS did not work properly for many people, an official fix for that, yes, it was that bad. For me, everything else is pretty livable, a little lag here and there, the unlock screen and notification bar lag always happens when I am in a hurry. Otherwise, awesome phone. Does it have a couple issues that need addressing....yes, it most certainly does.
[Vibrant General] Col.Kernel:
I'm not asking for FroYo. I'm asking for the phone I paid for to do what it is advertised to do. i.e. HAVE A WORKING GPS AND COMPASS.

Oh and it'd be really nice if the phone didn't soft boot when I'm trying to open a browser (any browser, I've tried 3 of them) or use Google Maps.

I'd also like to use the 1 GHz SoC and see the speed it allegedly has.

I was perfectly content to wait for the phone to be finished before I bought it. Some marketing weenie with a sack full of manure between his ears decided to "beat the other guys to market" with TMo's new shiney. And instead of bringing on extra head count to do the job right they slapped it together with duct tape and baling wire.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a big TMo fan, but they screwed the pooch on this one.

And I've just bought my last Samsung product from anyone anywhere.
[Vibrant General] Col.Kernel:
Or more accurately "You can have it cheap, fast, or done right. Pick 2."
[Vibrant General] flameinthefire:
+1.........
[Vibrant General] Gigamaster89:
The vibrant is none of those.
[Vibrant General] d_bot:
I agree that the GPS was botched, and Samsung should have been all over it, being it is their flagship phone on ALL major carriers, it should have NEVER left the samsung dock with a gps and compass so totally broken. But all this crap about "I want FROYO NOW" dudes RELAX, for one its an F***ing phone! for hells sake, and 2nd, these are the people that when they get froyo will say "samsung totally F'd this one up and loaded it so full of crap that its soooo slow! and my battery sucks ass(as they have their twitter/facebook/myspace/sports scores/etc/etc/etc updating every 30 min) I want Gingerbread NOW! F you samsung, F you tmo!"

I have loved my vibrant, and when the time comes to get a new phone, if samsung has the best specs, I will buy the samsung, if some other manufacturer has the best specs, I will buy that one, be it HTC, Motorola, etc. point being the phone has been out what 3 months? should the GPS/Compass been fixed? I believe absolutely it should have been. Do i feel i am entitled to getting Froyo "right now"? no Will i be happy when we do get froyo? hells yeah!

I am just sick of the bull **** sorry /rant#2
[Vibrant General] runningerin:
I'm a loyal T-Mobile customer. I'm one of those people that stalks all the forums and threads gathering info from you guys on the Vibrant. I am definitely not brave enough to root my phone or do any other crazy stuff. I just want the phone to do what it says it will do.

You guys either love or hate this phone/company. Bottom line is that there are so may conflicting opinions, I don't know what to do: Don't buy the Vibrant at all, buy it now and update it as the updates become avail (with the annoying possibility that an update will require a hard re-set,) or buy it later after all the updates (GPS, lag fixes and 2.2) are available before I start customizing it.

Maybe just wait until the end of September and see if Samsung keeps its word and see whether you guys are cheering or sneering?!
[Vibrant General] ackattacker:
These two statements are rather contradictory. Specifications mean nothing when the phone doesn't actually meet them or is unusable.

It is frankly a bit ridiculous that the mod community has been spending all the time trying to fix the broken features of the Vibrant rather than making general improvements. A GPS and compass fix is floating around out there, apparently working, why can't Samsung/T-mobile push it out in reasonable time? This is not a one-time thing for Samsung either, they have a history of failing to support their products yet everybody thinks "oh not this will be different, it's the flagship, etc. etc."

Einstein once said the definition of insanity is repeating the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Do I have a fast phone? Specifications say I do. In practice, it is laggy, slow, reboots itself constantly, and takes a long time to come alive after a reboot.

Do I have a GPS? Specifications say I do. In practice, the GPS is neigh unusable. And Google Navigation causes freezes and reboots.

Do I have a Compass? Specifications say I do. In practice, my $1 wal-mart compass works better.

Do I have the most advanced, power saving screen, large battery, and advanced power management operating system? Specifications say I do. In practice, I cannot make it through a normal workday with typical use without charging the battery.
[Vibrant General] mystycs:
LOL good one
[Vibrant General] jpgilman:
Thank goodness. I 'd have panicked if you'd said they were releasing it with Duke Nukem Forever. Since 3D was released in 1996 we should be good to go.
[Vibrant General] d_bot:
I'm guessing you dont have a vibrant?

the "gps fix" floating around DOES NOT help all phones.

Hell yes i do. I have had no issues with random reboots.

Yes I do, in practice is it botched? Yes it is. Has samsung acknowledge the issue and working on a fix? Yes they have. Do i believe that it should have been taken care of sooner? Yes Do i know all the details? No, Obviously there is something not quite right since some claim the "fix" fixes them, and others (me included) have had no joy with any of the fixes.

I am running Vibrant9 with JAC's kernel, I use my phone....not heavy, but not lightly, I work all day, and school from 6-9:30, regularly texting, browsing and updates, and yes by the time i get home at 10 I am getting the "plug me in" warnings. I just flashed Kings Kernel, and am excited to see where this goes, Kings kernel gave my friends evo insane battery life!

I have loved my vibrant, the GPS pisses the hell out of me, but I would still recommend this phone to anyone of my friends/family/co-workers. And once, the GPS is fixed, I will quite frankly have no complaints with the phone.
[Vibrant General] sj_martin:
This saying never made sense to me.

cheap + done right right = more time

More time == more money

more money != cheap
[Vibrant General] Col.Kernel:
That's why it's "Pick two."

You can have it done quickly and cheap, but it won't be done right.

You can have it done quickly and done right, but it won't be cheap.

You can have it done right and cheap, but it won't be done quickly.

More time = more money, but less time + done correctly = increased head count or much over time = LOTS more money
[Vibrant General] MacGuy2006:
+1

Unfortunately, much of this is is right on the money.

I've given up on trying to get through a full day with normal phone use without recharging through the day. With similar use, I was able to get through almost two full days on my old iPhone 3Gs on a single charge. This is a fact, not a flame, and I am not happy to have to admit it.

I am hoping that Froyo will push battery life to at least a long day's worth.

I notice that the people who seem to be satisfied by the battery life either have most functions turned off (which kind of defeats the purpose of a smartphone), or their point of reference is some old device with even worse battery life.

BTW, Ryanz's lag fix has helped a lot, but I still get the rare lo-o-ong freeze when trying to unlock the phone, and I have missed calls because the phone refuses to respond to my gestures.

I still love the gorgeous screen of the Vibrant, but disappointment has set in. The delays in OS updates and uncertainty about the availability of Gingerbread, which should be out in less than two months and which will literally change the face of Android for the better, would make me pause if I were to buy this phone again.
[Vibrant General] RendereR:
No new news here, but funny anyway... Coworker just went to Samsung technical support and here is the chat that followed:

Please wait for a Samsung Agent to respond.

You are now chatting with 'Barney'

Barney: Hi, thank you for contacting Samsung Technical Support. How may I help you today?

Visitor: i want my GPS fixed!

Visitor: i am locked into a 2 year contract with no GPS

Visitor: this is crap

Barney: I apologize for all the inconvenience caused.

Barney: I understand that you are not able to use GPS.

Visitor: thats right

Visitor: it takes 20 miniutes to get a GPS lock

Barney: Samsung continues to listen to customer feedback on GPS performance expectations on launched Galaxy S devices. We are currently testing software updates, which will optimize GPS performance.

Barney: We expect to be able to make the updates available in September and will communicate more information and download instructions in the next few weeks

Visitor: only 10 days left in september

Visitor: thanks for nothing

Barney: I understand your concern about the issue.

Barney: I am sure that you should be able to use the device with device without any problem in coming few days.
[Vibrant General] engineer14:
OH BOY, I just got my firmware UPDATED.
[Vibrant General] flameinthefire:
lies..........
[Vibrant General] Hondatech44:
still no OTA update in MN, who got it?when and where?
[Vibrant General] Blown 89:
End of discussion. I paid for a phone that was supposed to have a working GPS and compass and it doesn't. I think I have every right to expect a fix faster than this.
[Vibrant General] acjames:
So what is this firmware. Do they use the same Vibrant as we do?

http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150262535205538&id=260085296049
[Vibrant General] engineer14:
wow wasnt paying attention to what i was typing, forgot to inclue.............................. NOT

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
[Vibrant General] pooroldluser:
I am turning into a ninja in getting to the "software updates" button in the settings menu today. I am also sadly getting accustomed to the "no firmware" message as well. I know, I am being impatient...but I can't resist the urge to keep checking :)
[Vibrant General] ProximaC:
yeah... that was hilarious.
[Vibrant General] OHHitsKB:
I just flashed to the stock ROM I found in the development forum after using Eugene's hybrid for a while, will I be able to receive the ota? I'm still rooted and running Ryanza's lag fix. And will I get a notification when it arrives or do I need to check for it?
[Vibrant General] wrfarmers3:
Convo with Samsung

Please wait for a Samsung Agent to respond.

You are now chatting with 'Kirsten K'

Vince: I have a samsung vibrant and my gps is not working at all please help

Kirsten K: I would be happy to transfer your query to Mobile Chat Support for further assistance. Our agents may be assisting other customers. If you have trouble getting through to them right away, please contact us at 1-888-987-4357, Mon-Fri: 7 AM - 9 PM (CST), Sat: 9 AM - 6 PM (CST). We would be more than happy to assist you. We are truly sorry for any delay due to this, and will try our best to help you as soon as possible.

Please wait while I transfer the chat to the best suited Samsung Agent.

You are now chatting with 'Stella'

ME: i have a vibrant and my gps is not working at all

Stella: I am sorry for the inconvenience .

Stella: Are you getting any eror messages?

ME:no, it just will not lock in and the compass is off too

ME: on samsungs twitter i saw that an update was coming. when will this happen

Stella: Unfortunately, Samsung continues to listen to customer feedback on GPS update expectations on launched Galaxy S devices.

Stella: We are currently testing software updates, which will optimize Samsung GPS update. We expect to be able to make the updates available in September and will communicate more information and download instructions in the next few weeks.

Stella: However, There is no specific ETA mentioned for the release of the software at this moment.

Stella: I apologize for the inconvenience.
[Vibrant General] SamsungVibrant:
some say you can only use the "software updates" button, once in a 24hr period....any truth to this once in a 24hr period rule?
[Vibrant General] bobofosho123:
Don't hold your breath...I gave up on samsung a looooooooong time ago, I'm just praying that the devs come through soon with froyo, which they will be gauging by the amazing progress their making.
[Vibrant General] OHHitsKB:
Sure would be nice if there was word on CM6 for the Vibrant.

Also, its kind of sad that devs who do some of this as just a hobby can make progress quicker and more effectively than the engineers at multi-billion dollar corporations with offices and employees worldwide.
[Vibrant General] redwolf313k:
Patience.....
[Vibrant General] hitman818:
Is it good when i press software update and it says "DM initialisation is not ready. Check network or SIM card."
[Vibrant General] techpreneur:
Mine just says no firmware
[Vibrant General] Dragoth12:
Mine still just says No Firmware.
[Vibrant General] d_bot:
things are looking bad for our OP lol
[Vibrant General] geocepe:
OMG I just got the OTA.

Na Im joking. Sorry I couldnt resist it.

Go ahead flame away.
[Vibrant General] b1wyatt:
Guys I claaed today to tmobile and they said that they pulled the update???? Whats that about?
[Vibrant General] Sapient Prophet:
Dear T-Mobile,

Quit being such a **** tease.

Love,

Me
[Vibrant General] gunks:
Maybe you should have asked them? If you're being serious that is.
[Vibrant General] hitman818:
are you suppose to have a internet dataplan to get the update?
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
OP will be getting a lynching from me next time I see a post from it + without breaking any rules.
[Vibrant General] harabinger66:
+1

I'm excited to see what a legal lynching looks like :) ... I might have to install Eugene's Franklin rom or at least the leaked version of this supposed update.. I was holding out till today but I don't think I can last any longer.
[Vibrant General] b1wyatt:
Funny thing is that my brother in law saw that the droid was to be updated on the 20 th as well and no th ing happened there either.
[Vibrant General] ProximaC:
I somehow doubt we'll ever see a post from that username again.
[Vibrant General] Droidicus:
OMG! *slaps forehead* They said "September" right? But they didn't say the year! THEY DIDN'T SAY THE YEAR!!!
[Vibrant General] henreeg:
this made me LAUGH OUT LOUD at work.

:eek:

:D:D:D:D:D:D
[Vibrant General] AuraspeeD:
Well, as you all are aware the, update has yet to roll out. I'm just as disappointed as I'm sure most of you are.

I sent out some emails and am looking into it. Keep you all posted.
[Vibrant General] iceman1251:
Wow you came back!
[Vibrant General] SamsungVibrant:
How can we trust your emails, we all saw how that turned out the first time. How do we know the news you provide is credible? I mean, I'm sure you are just trying to help, but I don't think even insiders know what the deal is. T-Mobile is pissing me off, and so is Samsung.
[Vibrant General] opiate46:
Rabble! Rabble rabble!
[Vibrant General] flameinthefire:
indeed,....
[Vibrant General] MacGuy2006:
This is silly.

The OP passed on what he/she deemed to be accurate information. There have been a bunch of rumors about the 23rd, so the info was plausible.

I am pissed at Samsung for dragging its feet on fixes and on an OS update which has been officially released 3 months ago, but the OP is not guilty of anything, other than trying to help.
[Vibrant General] Col.Kernel:
I say again "I purchased a very expensive phone for certain features. To date, over two months and one exchange after the initial purchase I have not been able to use those features".

I've been patient.
[Vibrant General] Dragoth12:
Just one more reason the phone manufacturer's should stop putting their own custom rom's on their phones and stick with stock android. Everyone would get the updates at the same time when google releases the update. However, I digress, this is more about the gps and the lag than it is about froyo.
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
Are you talking about the myTouch 3G? G1? What about the Motorola Milestone that has stock Android but is still on 2.1?

The custom UI is not the reason why manufactures take their time releasing an update. The HTC Evo and Incredible got 2.2 pretty quick didn't they? The Incredible has little to no new problems with 2.2 but the HTC Evo's 2.2 update was clearly rushed and has a rash of small bugs.
[Vibrant General] Sapient Prophet:
Listen to Yoda. This phone has too much potential for me to give up. Even with its problems, its still the best phone out. IMO.

My inner 12 year old LOL'd @ rash of small bugs
[Vibrant General] Digital_Warrior:
T's Response

Just got off the phone with T's Android Department. From what the rep was telling me the fix is rolled up into the 2.2 update. But he could not tell me when it is to come out, not even a guess as to when, But should not be much longer. Now do I believe what I have been told probably not. I think we will see a fix later in November before Thanksgiving for this reason. The GPS fix's that are listed around the net for the Vibrant do not work on evey phone. This has to mean that there is one a decent software difference between the phone as far as GPS goes, or two there is a hardware difference in the phone this could explain why some are HW locked and some are not. It is going to take them some extra time to have a fix that works for every Vibrant. Other wise it will look very very bad. They already have a mob of angry customers over the GPS issue and a botched update would make it a lot worse and turn a way a lot of potential customers not including all the customers they would loose. There is one more explanation it is supposed to come out Aug 20 2011 just got the year wrong. Well that is my update and two cents every one take care.
[Vibrant General] axion68:
To me it makes more sense to roll it out with 2.2, that way they only have to support 1 update rather than 2. However everything is just speculation, and I wouldn't believe anything a rep or anyone else says until a public announcement is made.
[Vibrant General] MMcCraryNJ:
Everyone irrationally getting upset over this needs to take a breather and chill.

The G1 was released in October of 2008 and it wasn't until the end of December when its GPS bugs were ironed out. It wasn't until March that we saw 1.5. It's not just Samsung. These updates take time to roll out correctly and without problems. If Samsung or T-Mobile ever said, "Look, we had an update scheduled and during the last minute, we found errors with such and such, so the update will be delayed", you should be happy that these companies vigorously test such updates. I would be pissed if they rushed this and got it all wrong like some others did (HTC with the Incredible for instance).

This phone is still brand new, and it's a new line of devices. If you purchased it on day one expecting it to be error-free, than I'm sorry to say you were mistaken. If you are demanding that these things be error-free out-of-the-box on day 1, that is an unreasonable demand. A feature-phone rather than a smartphone would be your best choice in that matter.

The fact of the matter is that this device, along with the very-related Galaxy Tab, are the two biggest devices Samsung Mobile has right now. Do you really think they are sitting, twiddling their thumbs at their computers? These devices were made to succeed, and I'm confident Samsung/T-Mobile are doing everything they can to make it so.

Patience is key. If you've run out of it, do yourself a favor and sell your device. You will have a good chunk of money to throw down at an unsubsidized purchase of your choosing. Complaining endlessly about it is going to get you nowhere.
[Vibrant General] Digital_Warrior:
I agree it would be nice if there was a PR person for Sam/T that would let us know the status of things.

You know just a heads up ie.

Hey all we are working on that GPS fix it should be out around AUG 20 2010.

Sorry all we found a few problems that where the result of the GPS Fix as soon as we know more we will let you all know.

Hey we think we got it all fixed again we are doing some final testing if nothing else creeps up it should be out on the 28th of November.

Now that type of communication would be nice.
[Vibrant General] MacGuy2006:
Maybe in Jersey you don't expect such things. But where I come from, we do.