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[Legend General] Chaotick:
Good news indeed....however....

After this statement a lot of users came form "HTC sucks mode" to "HTC love you mode". That's kind of funny IMHO. Secoundly they wrote " in the coming weeks " unbranded legend users "should" get the update. To me it seems a more elaborate way to say "coming soon".Or just an PR action. The term " in the coming weeks " is still unclear and vague.
[Legend General] kazzaz:
not only coming but they said

HTC

Wish we could be more specific Charisma. But it's seriously very close to completion. Despite the wait we think you'll be happy with what's in the update.

Hoping to get news on other phone models...
[Legend General] Chaotick:
The only thing that can compensate the wait ( or such a wait) at this point IMO is the NEW SENSE in the update.
[Legend General] andrekua:
If it's that close, we would have gotten a date at least..

I wonder who comes first, HTC Legend Froyo or Gingerbread Tablet...
[Legend General] g0dshead:
Seriously this statement is pathetic. This the best they can do? LOL

First they appologise then they say in the upcoming weeks!? , appologise when you got something to give your costumers in return not just hot air.
[Legend General] petertakov:
"Coming weeks" and no mention whatsoever of Froyo? "Update" - is that what you are so happy about? I say we get a fix of the SMS bug by Christmas and nothing more and we still cannot say that they lied. Think about it!

Actually this message makes things look even worst, because it is obviously cunning and evasive, meaning that they don't know sh-t.
[Legend General] krasenk:
Did you notice the following on Facebook: "Topic: FROYO on LEGEND!". Till the end of November the updated will be released for sure. The question now is if it comes with the new Sense UI.
[Legend General] whitetigerdk:
Time to do an unroot.. To get it and to root it :-)
[Legend General] krasenk:
If there is a RUU will it be possible to root it with the XDA kitchen?
[Legend General] kuklux:
waiting to leak froyo rom to cook my own froyo rom :)
[Legend General] whitetigerdk:
Yup..
[Legend General] krasenk:
I assumed it will be possible but wanted to confirm :) What's better than own rooted stock ROM :)

EDIT: CyanogenMod (Gingerbread) is better than rooted stock ROM :D
[Legend General] smartvinu:
If HTC release froyo then will we get the rooted version soon?

Because I am not able to unroot to the latest version, as the ota is not available
[Legend General] Asovse1:
^ hell yeah, I'm expecting the new sense with froyo baby...
[Legend General] jennan88:
What's different about the new sense?

Please say the animations are smoother, I hate the jerkiness
[Legend General] Asovse1:
Another thing, the desire's recent froyo update (telus) didn't Give it the be Sense, right?
[Legend General] whitetigerdk:
Correct..
[Legend General] krasenk:
I think that HTC Desire will receive the new Sense UI soon. I suppose that will happen at the same time the Legend gets its Froyo update. I still have some hope that the Legend will receive the new Sense and/or HTCSense.com functionalities.
[Legend General] troupierLEON:
Maybe someone will send HTC a mail and ask, if the FroYo update will include the new sense... why not myself you ask? Because I already worte them two times :P .
[Legend General] slovenec88:
I really don't think that we are getting the new sense (i hope i'm wrong). I send them a mail, even that i already know the response.. "We don't know when the 2.2 update will be ready for legend, and we don't know if it is getting the new sense".

Ppl, just wait. As soon as we will get froyo, we will want the gingerbread. The desire (not the phone) of an update will be always present, that is just the way it is... Cyanogen is the answer ;)
[Legend General] TheGrammarFreak:
Yeah, with CM you can update every day. :D
[Legend General] CrazyPeter:
No, Gingerbread does not offer significant changes for smartphones, it's a rushed out quickfix to allow Android based tablet PC's to be ready for Xmas.

2.1 -> 2.2 is a big deal for 3 reasons.

1. App availability, there are quite a few 2.2 only apps.

2. Install to SD

3. JIT and other performance improvements.
[Legend General] whitetigerdk:
LOL...
[Legend General] orouborus:
planning to get either an hdz or desire hd because of their adobe 10.1 flash support for me to be able to do streaming. but this is good news. i will be waiting for the update first then see if i will still buy new htc for christmas. :D still, the legend has outstanding build quality. im not expecting it to have a new htc sense but that would be great! let us just hope they really do that. :D patience and be positive everyone!
[Legend General] slovenec88:
Here we are, response from HTC:

Kindly note that for the time being we have no information yet, when the FROYO update will be released for HTC Legend. Please check our website regularly to be updated with latest releases and new updates.

Bear in mind that once the compatible FROYO is released for your phone, you'll receive a notification that a compatible update is available if you'd like to have it. You should be connected to the internet to do it. we recommend to have WIFI connection as it'll be faster.

Kindly note that for the time being HTCsense website is only for Desire Z and Desire HD..

Yet no confirmation if it’ll work with other phones or not.
[Legend General] g0dshead:
Yeah , they wont come with anything concrete , loads of people been sending them email asking when? or what? it's pointless unfortunatly.

As for the Sence website i dont get why they would develop it only for the Desire family (at the moment) kinda lame , but hey i would probly never use it anyhow.
[Legend General] denisman:
Can we actually expect a significant improvement with an official Froyo version compared to CM builds?

I am far away from being even half-educated with this topic but so far it looks like Sense is the major difference.

JIT is present in CM, same goes for app2sd and most other Froyo features.

Full Flash support would be my personal wish for Froyo but reading through some other posts it is said to be incompatible with our processors.

I rooted my Legend almost immediately after buying it and got myself a Sense-less Rom, so I don't miss it at all.

Can one of you pros please explain the major improvements rooted Legend users will (or might) have with an official Froyo compared to CM builds?
[Legend General] jennan88:
What is the new sense?!?!?!?!
[Legend General] logoo:
I ve question a well, am I the only one unable to write in landscape view cause of the lag? Do you think froyo is going to fix it?

Furthermore the sms app is not as smooth as it was on my ex 3gs iPhone so I think its just software issues...
[Legend General] tnakir:
Update here

hxxp://www[dot]mobilewhack[dot]com/htc-legend-getting-android-froyo-2-2-update-sometime-next-week/
[Legend General] oysteivi:
I'm not a pro, but off the top of my head:

* A lot of people actually like sense

* FM radio

* Wifi tether should work (or work better)

* New linux kernel (2.6.32?) supposedly brings better performance and/or reduced battery drain. At the very least, it has a higher version number (32 > 29) which makes it Awesome(TM).

The last three will probably be used by CM after a short while, so even for CM users there is reason to look forward to official Froyo. :D
[Legend General] Asovse1:
If the rumours are true about the App Store, might as well upgrade all 2010 HTC devices to Froyo+New Sense.
[Legend General] lessirey:
Hmm.. What's the rumor about app store ?
[Legend General] fabi280:
Read more on the Financial Times

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/7a16b2fe-ea92-11df-b28d-00144feab49a.html#axzz14gj3dftt

Or Winfuture.de for German Users

http://winfuture.de/news,59390.html
[Legend General] taleboblen:
Oh no! Not another app store...... :S
[Legend General] nolook:
wont the official froyo have better battery life than the CM 6.1?
[Legend General] Snapphane:
HTC already have a tiny widget store ;-) Why not a full blown HTC Sense store, could be fun :-)
[Legend General] taleboblen:
No it could not.... but they are working on something.... everybody wants a piece of the app store pie.
[Legend General] vanzelvoul:
Aparently we will get froyo with the old sense.

Heres is the answer of the oficial Greek HTC event:

Greek:

Για το HTC Sense.com

Ε: Θα έχουν προσβαση προηγούμενα μοντέλα πριν από τα Desire HD και Desire Z;

- A: Όχι, μόνο όσα μοντέλα κυκλοφορήσουν από εδώ και πέρα.

E: Θα το δούμε και στα ελληνικά;

- Α: Ναι, μέχρι τέλος Νοεμβρίου θα είναι έτοιμη η ελληνική μετάφραση.

Για το HTC Sense UI (User Interface)

E: Νέο HTC Sense UI, θα δωθεί αναβάθμιση σε προηγούμενα μοντέλα όπως το Desire και το Legend;

- A: Αυτή τη στιγμή δεν υπάρχει πρόβλεψη για ενσωμάτωση του νέου HTC Sense σε προηγούμενα μοντέλα.

English translate:

For HTC Sense.com

Q: You have access to previous models before Desire HD and Desire Z;

- A: No, only those models move from here.

E: I see it in Greek?

- A: Yes, by the end of November will be ready to Greek translation.

For HTC Sense UI (User Interface)

E: New HTC Sense UI, will be given upgrade to previous models such as Desire and the Legend;

- A: Currently there is no provision for incorporation of the new HTC Sense in previous models.

Bad news
[Legend General] were2:
why the **** are they working a half year long to port sense for the legend when they actually dont even change anything. its just annoying, maybe there was only one guy who ported the whole sense ui for froyo, the only thing that actually would make sense.
[Legend General] TheLegendaryJay:
The thing that's taking them time is performing an in-place upgrade and not screwing the Market up, do you want the issues the Desire had with their update?
[Legend General] were2:
wich was actually fixed fast and the point is, htc is not working on the firmware they lust port a user interface.

not even a new one which would be an excuse, no, the same work they made so many times before.
[Legend General] vanzelvoul:
Very disapointed about HTC. Same **** with every device i bought. HTC HD, HD2 an now Legend.
[Legend General] tnakir:
Exactly... never HTC again.
[Legend General] Asovse1:
Sadface. They said the 2010 HTC models would incorporate the new Sense, now I am disappointed.
[Legend General] jennan88:
What the f**k is the new sense?
[Legend General] rajasyaitan:
Seriously?
[Legend General] jennan88:
Out of all the people that post on this forum, you are by far the least helpful.

Yes, seriously.
[Legend General] bullchicken:
Summarized from here:

Less than 10 second boot time (probably)

DLNA

Map caching

Map orientation

Sense website

Locate lost phone

Wipe stolen phone remotely

Backup phone data and apps

Probably their own app store

More widgets, which can be customized to only show relevant info

Better looking UI
[Legend General] jennan88:
Sweet, thanks. I searched and couldnt find it.

htcsense.com sounds like the kind of game-changer that's designed to get us to upgrade our phones less than 12 months after purchase. although Im fairly sure Sense on my phone is quicker than 10 seconds to boot up, even though I havent used it in a while
[Legend General] TheLegendaryJay:
They NEVER said ALL the 2010 models will get the new Sense, stop talking out your proverbial hole. They said ALL 2010 models will get FroYo starting* from the 3rd quarter, which the Desire did get it in.

*This does NOT mean the devices will get FroYo in the 3rd Quarter, just that they will start rolling out the FroYo update from then for their 2010 models.

People need to get their facts straight and stop spreading misinformation.
[Legend General] shuikit:
Where's the 'like' button???!
[Legend General] ropaisoft:
i'm fairly sure it takes longer than 10 seconds.
[Legend General] g0dshead:
42 seconds exactly:D
[Legend General] were2:
he only meant sense with starting faster than 10 seconds, not the whole boot.
[Legend General] Asovse1:
Well obviously some sources are reporting unreliable BS, remember the Phantom Legend and if it was either 2.1 or 2.2?
[Legend General] virani_joush:
I guess we will get froyo at the end of this month means near 28th or 29th november...
[Legend General] rajasyaitan:
Thanks, that really mean something to me. Do you Grammar? Click on 'engage brain' in his siggy before you ask silly questions. I am not obligated to be helpful towards lazy people.
[Legend General] zabaknilesh:
This thread is really amazing..members from different languages, countries are really updating what ever information they have on Froyo update...Thank you all...:)

Wish someone some how will post.."Froyo Released !!"
[Legend General] whitetigerdk:
Actually.. I did.. as a joke.. but thread got moved to Trash.. LOL.. Guess some guys could't take a joke ;)
[Legend General] jennan88:
Do I grammar? Sure, I grammar. Do you syntax?
[Legend General] taleboblen:
Peace!
[Legend General] smartsreenath:
ya peace:D:D:D
[Legend General] dc/dc:
Love and hair grease.
[Legend General] jennan88:
Froyo is peace
[Legend General] randy_khoo:
nope...

Froyo is not peace.

Gingerbread is peace. :D (especially with Cyanogenmod.)
[Legend General] CrazyPeter:
No, some of us don't like timewasters.....
[Legend General] guap:
that's one of the worst opinion on legend :D our phone was underpriced in italy, they retired from the market... is fuc*ing sexy and exclusive and I love it ;) my only issue is scrolling down every time i get a new sms
[Legend General] vefilippo:
I love the way HTC legend looks. Is very cool and also solid.

Anyway, if i can suggest one one thing, to avoid that problem try install Handcent SMS. After some tweaking you get a similar UI to standard without that problem and many more features (speech to text!)
[Legend General] guap:
Tnx, I know handcent but it's too much iphone-like and I hate it :D
[Legend General] parker09:
You can use the inbuilt themes to basically make it more stock messaging feel, basically text only.
[Legend General] kdma:
same here the UI is too iphonish..i like the look of htc app but i have some conversation with over 800 messages and it takes a while to load..wish there was a setting to load only latest messages.
[Legend General] sunflux:
Now I'm just waiting for either 2.1 update 2 or 2.2 to fix the sms sorting problem.
[Legend General] nolook:
the app 'sms time fix' does this right now...works great for me...
[Legend General] orouborus:
we just need to wait a little longer for froyo. i just hope they really fix the sms issue and has a full flash support. :D i would just like to share that legend is built like a tank! i dropped my phone in solid tiles about 18 inches and bounced off the ground. i was so pissed it happened but when i checked the phone, it just got some dirt on the edge near the chin. there is no scratch, dent or anything! im glad i bought legend, if it was desire, im not sure what would be the extent of the damage. :)

lets just be more patient with 2.2, september ends in 2 more weeks. :p
[Legend General] k66473:
waiting for 2.2
[Legend General] nomad4ever:
I dropped mine also, it flew like 3 meters off the table through the room, when I stumbled over the charger cable and landed on hard tiles on the screen. Small dent on one upper corner, but thankfully nothing broken. Everything still works.

My gosh, I almost had a heart attack! ;-/
[Legend General] kvasnevsky:
Maybe soon?

Update for Desire that fixes few 2.2 rom problems is available now:

Update – HTC Desire Firmware Over The Air (FOTA) update

You can now download the latest software update for new features and improved performance.

Probably that means HTC could port it to Legend now (just my guess) - if new bugs won't come across....
[Legend General] Corra:
- Q3 is finishing

- They released the second 2.2 OTA for desire

- They released other eclair updates for legend after the froyo OTA for desire.

- They continue saying absolutely NOTHING about an official froyo update for legend. Nothing at all, like 'just be patient we're working on it'.

- A leaked froyo rom for desire was already around before the official release, and obviously nothing similar for legend. Maybe there's not something to leak?

...and you still think they're planning to release froyo as soon as possible. I really envy your optimism :)

however I hope you're right, it would be wonderful.
[Legend General] kleutscher:
Ppl pls learn to read it in the right context.

They said we are STARTING to release froyo for desire legend and wildfire in 3rdQ. NOT well be releasing froyo for....... in the 3rdQ.

This mean it also could be released in the 4thQ or 1stQ.

And yes it would be nice if they let us know that they are still working on it or that they will start working on it.

But just have some patience:).

I only get tired off ppl still thinking that they said that it will be released the 3rdQ. They said starting 3rdQ...
[Legend General] CrWEE:
Well, I think they said 'starting _in_ Q3'... and not 'starting Q3' which could be really anytime.

But i'm better not arguing... english is not my primary language :) .
[Legend General] Corra:
Release a software, as far as I know means distribute it, not develope it. Am I wrong?
[Legend General] tamaster92:
Regardless of above, they said all 2010 devices by January so...
[Legend General] ashishvirmani:
Ok peeps I am sick of waiting for froyo and really close to rooting my device. So far I had not rooted it coz I was hearing that froyo is round the corner and also I was apprehensive of these things.

1. Is there a stable rom for legend with froyo? have been hearing that azure cm6 is the best. Has anyone tried it and confirm what is Not working on it, fm radio for one I know is not working.

I think I will prefer a stable Factory installed eclair instead of an unstable froyo with apps forceclosing on me.

2. Is it possible to revert to the unrooted factory 2.1 with sense ui if I want to?

Can a rooted user pls clear these queries? Thanks.
[Legend General] xnotte:
htc has the worst policy i remember...it was like that with windows mobile and still is with android. They just want to sell phones and don't give a sh*t about users.
[Legend General] tamaster92:
Azure is great, I'm using it atm, and yes you can you simply flash a default rom wwe style

2.1 wise I'd say either speed legend, neonmod or indigo bean but have a look around, just remember nandroid!
[Legend General] gr1pp5:
Hi all.

I've been patiently waiting for froyo, but I must say I think i'll be rooting shortly.

I had an email from HTC today, and I quote:

"Regarding the HTC Legend; There is no confirmation that the HTC Legend will be receiving the Android 2.2 update just yet. For the most up to date information please keep an eye on our website."

Maybe they might mention something at the special event in London tomorrow?

Cheers.
[Legend General] TheGrammarFreak:
It was hilarious mate

Leave him alone, he had a good point. Engage brain (y'know, the statement that's in all 433 of my posts, as of writing). I imagine he was meant to say "do you know Grammar?", Grammar being me (note the upper-case "G", indicating a proper noun)

You guys are boring. :P
[Legend General] jennan88:
I just asked someone to tell me what the new sense was as I couldn't find it on a forum search or on HTC's site. I didn't punch the pope in the face, and I sure as **** didn't do anything to deserve being called brainless.

Can we please get back on topic now?
[Legend General] whitetigerdk:
Yeah... back on topic... ;)

Froyo obvious didn't come out in september... thread closed... hehe..
[Legend General] BesFen:
Maybe September Next Year :D:D:D
[Legend General] TheGrammarFreak:
I still think we'll get it tomorrow...

Lol

Swyped from my Galaxy Tab
[Legend General] whitetigerdk:
So right you are.. Tomorrow is the day indeed.. :)
[Legend General] Sckank:
I think we got it yesterday.
[Legend General] ryaneu:
I got it last night too, while i was dreaming.
[Legend General] smartsreenath:
ya me too but not froyo,its gingerbread:cool::cool::cool:

.
[Legend General] rajasyaitan:
Thanks mate. You get me. I'm just plain tired of this kind of people.
[Legend General] maxonite:
Honestly I think there a too many winging *****es here. Never HTC again hey...well good luck with other brands, go get yourself a sony ericsson and wait the same amount of time for a 2.1 update. Several brands are still releasing 1.6 phones.

If you must have the latest root your darn phone! Half this forum probably already has.
[Legend General] HpX:
+1

insteds of winging try to do the best with what we gott (CM etc) Legend is still the coolest phone out there:)
[Legend General] ananthm2k5:
I'll buy an iPhone. It gets updates on time. And that phone does not become outdated 3 months after it hits the market. Or a Nokia. They are still working on updates for the 5800 (the first iPhone challenger) .

People are entitled to opinions. Sharing opinions is the whole point of a forum.

Having said that, HTC never again.
[Legend General] krasenk:
It's up to you to buy an iPhone or not, but please don't give us examples with phones like Nokia 5800, which is ugly fat brick running the most obsolete OS out there. Even the newest Nokia N8 is absolutely ridiculous both hardware- and software-wise.

HTC is producing the best smartphone devices with flawless build quality. So what do you expect? To buy a phone which will be the latest and the greatest for years? This is impossible! When you buy a PC how long does it take to get outdated?
[Legend General] CrazyPeter:
Your loss then, as I know my HTC Legend, even with Android 2.1 is better than iPhone4. I had one, as it was all status and no substance. I prefer my Legend so much more.

Why cut your nose off to spite your face?
[Legend General] BlaY0:
I don't miss anything in 2.1...

Sent from my HTC Legend
[Legend General] janarp:
I like my Legend so much ... when I get official froyo I like it even more... legend is one of the best looking phone right now...
[Legend General] were2:
still miss many features of my good old 5800, was an quite awesome phone after the 30.0.0.1 update.

hardware isnt everything, they just used the hardware that the 5800 needs to run 3 apps at the same time.

it wasnt even that ugly and had an that bad ui, and the wifi card is much better than the one that is built in htc legends.

however still no update huh?
[Legend General] jennan88:
I agree that it's silly to say "never HTC again" because of a delayed software update. I'd rather they wait and get it right than push out something rubbish.

I had an iPhone 3G and was forced by iTunes to upgrade to iOS 4. The phone became so slow it was unuseable. You're welcome to an iPhone, as I know their customer support is actually worse than HTC's. And Nokia? Symbian? Really?

The problem (if you can call it a problem, I don't) is OS fragmentation on Google's behalf. As other people have mentioned, devices are still being made with 1.6 and it's difficult to make the latest iteration fit every handset.

That said, HTC are obviously trying and if you can't wait a month, root and get CM. Pretty simple really.
[Legend General] tnakir:
It is not the point that we are dissapointed with HTC because Froyo will come out 2 month after desire, but they provide bad support for mid end products (such as legend) that are not even 1 yr old.

As soon as new product comes out, all old products are forgotten and upgrades are put aside. That is what i don't like.

Another thing I don't like is the way they treat their customers. We sent them mails about froyo, and all they did is turn on a autoresponder saying "We don't know when or if Froyo will be out, please check on our website". Was it a problem to write something like "We are working on Froyo, we are expecting it in end of November but we cannot guarantee because of yada yada yada..." and we wouldn't go to "Check for new updates" every day. That is what i don't like about HTC.

And yes, this is my last HTC android phone. Maybe i'll go to HTC HD7 just becuse Microsoft said the updates won't depend on manufacturer nor the carrier.