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[Epic 4G General] bitbang3r:
> I was in an unusual place, driving on sr528 in orlando.

Actually, that makes sense, believe it or not. If this is a tower-config issue, what better place to experiment and test than a spot that's easily-accessible to Sprint employees (Orlando is basically their Florida HQ), but has relatively few users at any given moment in time who'll be affected if something goes wrong (I believe that's one of the areas where service along the freeway is rock-solid, but if you were to get off the road and follow one of the FPL dirt access roads north or south, you'd lose all service within a couple of miles).

Other areas I suspect might have similar results right about now: the stretch of interstate between Palm Springs and Las Vegas, and particularly the interstate between Tucson and Phoenix. By the same logic, I suspect Henderson, NV might see a fix a day or two before Las Vegas (another relatively safe place to experiment and validate one last time before deploying a fix across a region... it's part of the larger metro area and easily-accessible to Sprint employees, but RF-isolated from it due to the mountains and lake).
[Epic 4G General] aero1:
Everyone I actually know for a few years on the various sites is getting 150 max up. I am getting 150 max up and travel a lot.
[Epic 4G General] Muckrak3r:
Posted in the other thread also, I am getting multiple tests over 150k. Never had any over that prior to today.

That being said, my friends on 3g iphones get over 1.2M upload speeds. And again, we pay $10 extra for what?
[Epic 4G General] othan1:
I just wanted to mention, too, that I have two daughters who both have Samsung Moments. When I run my tests, I run theirs, too, and they will show in the 500-800 UL range while mine rarely gets over 150. Don't have their phones with me or I'd post specific speeds.

I don't know what the problem is or if that would help.
[Epic 4G General] Blitzpwnage:
That still doesn't explain why I was getting 500 plus speeds and now I am capped again. I went from whitewater wisconsin to waterford...but I did a test here in waterford and I still wasn't capped until late last night...
[Epic 4G General] Kcarpenter:
Are we sure its not the speed test app? and I am getting pretty much <200 all the time. Mostly above 150, but never more than 200.
[Epic 4G General] vincey2kr1:
Of all the reviews this phone got how the hell did they not find this cap??! Shenanigans.. anyone contact annadtech? I sent a email to phonedog and pocketnow. Joe levi said interesting and will look into it (pocketnow) . Taking the epic back waiting for the 30 day from the initial purchase to expire (oct. 1st) and giving another 30day trial with the evo. Hoping some of these issues are fixed..
[Epic 4G General] robl45:
I think its one 30 day trial even if you exchange for a different phone.
[Epic 4G General] badasscat:
No, we're not. A Sprint guy on the Sprint forums said they're looking into this, but it's not a "known issue" yet because for all they know, it could be the number that's wrong, not the upload speed. They need to figure out exactly what's going on before they can try to fix it, and it could just be that the numbers are being reported incorrectly.

I've run Speed Test a million times now and I'm always at 150kbps over 3G, but the odd thing is that it takes the exact same amount of time to run the upload test as to run the download test, and I'm usually over 1000kbps on the download. Does that sound right? If upload speed is really 8 times slower, shouldn't the test take 8 times longer?
[Epic 4G General] hydralisk:
So.... it's just the speed test app for only the Epic? The speed test app works fine for the EVO... reporting upload accurately. People also complain about how long it takes to actually use the upload... but with no way to measure the actual speed. For example, sending a video you just recorded via MMS.
[Epic 4G General] kristv:
This is something I've been wondering quietly to myself about. I mean, has anyone "visually" compared how fast files are uploading between the Epic and other phones? Has anyone actually timed this ? It would be interesting to see what the results are like and if they jive with what everyone is experiencing with speedtest.
[Epic 4G General] TheMostToys:
Yes, I've tried multiple speed test apps and browser speed tests. I've also tested (by timing) FTP and sending email with large attachments (pictures and videos). There is a cap, from all of my testing (using multiple Epic's, Evo's and a TP2 in the same location at the same time) it appears to be a problem with the Epic itself (could be hardware or firmware but it's not limited to a particular app.)

I scared myself today by reading the "CDMA lock" problems with the Moment. I do not believe Sprint / Samsung will take responsibility or even attempt to fix this problem.

I believe that we all need to decide if the upload limit (with a premium charge for the privilege), the GPS lock failure and the Time Without Signal (Airplane mode work around) problems are deal breakers. If so, there is no point in continuing the madness and return the phone. Sprint / Samsung will NEVER formally acknowledge these problems and will not spend 1 minute or $1 fixing them. In 6 months, the Epic (just like the Moment) will be ancient history and S&S will be focused on the next big thing.
[Epic 4G General] TheMostToys:
Yes I have, see my previous post.
[Epic 4G General] ImmortalLuD:
Luckily I live and work in a 4G area. Usually get 8Mb-10Mb down and 900kb/sec-1Mb/sec upload speeds. 3G unfortunately, 1Mb-2Mb down and 150kb/sec is all it gets up to. :)

I <3 4G.
[Epic 4G General] badasscat:
The Moment was never a flagship phone - I don't think you can compare the two. I think at this point that it's overly pessimistic to say these things will "never" get fixed. Some people for whatever reason seem to be able to get faster downloads using 3G, and some say they got faster downloads that were then broken by the first update. I still have faith that they'll fix it at some point.

If they don't, though... well, I just realized I'm actually in a 4G area at work (New York), which is giving me speeds almost as fast as wi-fi, upload and download, and even beyond that I have wi-fi both at work and at home. So I can live with it; the time I'm limited to 3G is probably going to be about 10% of my total time with the phone.

It's pretty awesome now knowing I'm in 4G :) I didn't think they'd rolled out NYC yet, and it didn't work at home (just outside the city limits) so I just assumed it wasn't turned on.
[Epic 4G General] Firon:
It almost seems like the cap is because the phone is running out of CPU. The entire phone chugs when you upload, even while tethered. Screen drawing is slow slow, everything is slow.
[Epic 4G General] Kaarukun:
I doubt it's a CPU issue. Test with the Wifi and you'll see normal results. 150kbps is a pathetic speed. I have yet to achieve different results from the epic in the last 3 days of testing.

Here are my results with my epic/evo tested side by side against the same server.

I want to like the epic... but this upload and the gps issue is killing it for me.
[Epic 4G General] vincey2kr1:
I believe if you take your Epic back on the 30th day you have to reactivate an old phone and wait till the 30day trial expires ( The next day of course) to be able to have another try with another phone for 30days on an upgrade. Might take a call to sprint but i've done this before on the pre to extend my 30days because of all the problems i was having with it the initial 30days.
[Epic 4G General] aero1:
Nope that is NOT sprint's policy/definition on "known issues." Known issues are ones they prove to samsung and nail onto their warranty requiring a fix.

There are plenty of issues known for a fact, even with known causes that are never fixed and never on the Sprint "Known issues" list for a handset.

These tests came up because users started noting failures of apps and uses dependent on upload that work fine on other 3G devices.
[Epic 4G General] aero1:
I think there is something going on with this device's radio or its drivers and we can see it selected in CPU.I think it is related but not the CPU causing the problem but the other way around. I think there maybe a wrench in the machine from vestigial GSM.

For all we know it is possible that its hunting for signal overnight when in perfect conditions is related. My time without radio is substantial at >35 to 40% (and worse since the upgrade.)

That isn't even a guess on my part, we don't know enough but several things are going wrong that maybe related.

I will say the poster who six or seven posts back that claimed over 300 joined a couple of days ago. Their history is a claim of terrible upload speeds, a root, a claim and now 350 down (WTF) and 350 up (WTFx2). I am going with the long time posters and the answer seems consistently to be very poor speeds.
[Epic 4G General] badasscat:
Isn't that what I said? I said they don't know what it is and are investigating, therefore it's not a "known issue". But it is "known" to them, and they're looking into it.

btw....

I just found out they turned this on TODAY. So anyone in NYC, switch on your 4G! I just happened to do it by chance at exactly the right time. My last test was ~7700kbps down, 1145kbps up.
[Epic 4G General] bitbang3r:
You know... that got me thinking. Has anyone tried this with a rooted Epic using SetCPU to lock it to 1GHz so it can't throttle the CPU and slow it down when it thinks the phone isn't "busy"?

Hear me out. If the Epic's architecture is anything like most embedded ARM devices, the network interface probably uses DMA and an interrupt for incoming data, but probably uses PIO for outbound data. If the kernel's power management were to decide that a phone sending Speedtest data is "idle", it might very well slow down the CPU to the point where it it can only output data to the network interface at ~150kb/sec.

Think about it for a second... how does everyone test the speed? By laying the phone carefully on a table, launching the app, then stepping away from the phone to avoid influencing the test results by interfering with reception. BUT... now the kernel sees no motion, no input gestures, no magnetic flux, and no light variation. By almost any definition, the phone is now "idle". Of course, it's busy... but a slightly naive power-management algorithm that's heavily-weighted towards user interaction might easily come to the conclusion that the phone can be safely slowed down to 100MHz or less. Is that enough to explain it? Probably not... but it's probably worth exploring, if only to eliminate CPU throttling as a possible cause. Then again, if there's ALSO an issue somewhere with GSM-thunking, it could possibly be the "perfect storm" that snowballs with reduced CPU speed to cause what we're seeing.

Personally, I still think it's an issue with either the radio firmware and/or tower config that's causing it to use the legacy slower EVDO (just because ~150k is WAY too close for comfort to that particular limit). But at this point, it's still worth exploring every possibility.
[Epic 4G General] churro7:
i tried mine in fresno, ca in front of best buy and full bars hit 1400kbps and 149kbps up
[Epic 4G General] bitbang3r:
> Before you read my response, please know that my disagreement means no disrespect or ill-will

100% agreed. I was mainly brainstorming possibilities. Still, if nobody else does it first, the moment I have my Epic in a few hours and get it rooted, I'm going to try Speedtest with SetCPU disabling throttling to see whether it helps at all. I totally agree that it's unlikely to itself be enough to explain it. I just think it's something that's likely (for someone with rooted Epic) to be something that's so easy to test, it should be tested -- if only to conclusively eliminate one more piece of low-hanging fruit. :)

I really do think that this is going to end up being a brown paper bag bug when the problem finally gets fixed. Probably debugging code intended to either test EVDO rev 0 or simulate it to make sure something else didn't crash, or possibly an issue relating to tower config.
[Epic 4G General] bitbang3r:
Actually... that reminds me... is there any meaningful experiment I can run instantly upon getting the phone activated, but before any updates get pushed to it, that might be useful to others? Or will it push all the updates before it allows me to do anything at all?

Let me know... I'll try to check this board one last time before I get to Radio Shack in about 45 minutes.
[Epic 4G General] APOLAUF:
No particular tests that I can think of, test away and have post-update fun!
[Epic 4G General] bitbang3r:
Sigh. Revise the pick-up date to 'tomorrow'. When I got to the store, they told me my eligibility date wasn't updated. I called Sprint, was told that they found the note from yesterday approving it... then told the rep wasn't authorized to promise that. I guess they were nice about it (they're overnighting it, waiving the shipping and $25 early-upgrade charge, and not making me screw with rebates), but I'm still massively bummed out about not getting to have it *now*.

They wouldn't even let me PAY the $25 early-upgrade fee someone mentioned at XDA a few weeks ago and have it today. The CSR was adamant... it was going to be mail order via telesales or nothing. (Argh. Why does Sprint even bother to *have* retail stores, anyway? I mean, what sane logic is there in forcing someone to wait for his new phone so Sprint can pay FedEx $20 to hand-deliver it instead of just letting a minimum-wage store employee hand over a box that was shipped to the store by truck on a pallet for next to nothing 1-3 weeks ago? I mean, *hell*, if they *have* to ship something, give me one of the boxes from the pile at the store and let me go home with it today, and ship the phone from telesales to the store to take its place tomorrow. Grrrrr. Anyway, back to the regularly-scheduled program...)
[Epic 4G General] nitroxeno:
This was just posted over on community.sprint.com from one of the admins
[Epic 4G General] acme64:
On my Epic4g i have done some editing to the 3g settings and i am looking at 1346 down and 498 up with 126ms ping.:p
[Epic 4G General] dmbatson:
just got 1134KBPS download and 204kbps upload with 199ms in BOONDOCK MARANA Az. seriously... at school with 1 -2 bars.

When at my own home i have full bars and cant pass 500kbps..

:mad:
[Epic 4G General] othan1:
Um. I don't know why anyone is responding to a thread that is outdated. Sprint released a fix for the UL "cap" in September or beginning of October. Don't remember when, but that's why the last post was 22 September.

Dead, outdated thread.
[General Topics] tonev:
Maybe skype will be avaliable for Windows Mobile because i found this image on skype's website showing windows mobile and skype...

The link is directly from skype.com so you don't think I am making this up
[General Topics] FreeDee:
Skype used to be available for Windows Mobile. However, they discontinued supporting it several months ago and removed all references to it from their website (complete nonsense in my opinion).

You can still download it from here e.g. http://download.cnet.com/Skype-for-Windows-Mobile/3000-2349_4-10319520.html
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mam999999:
Now , in FAT mode, i can see files and write into the phone, but after the update, i dont know.

Could i continue working similar?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] filou75:
Sure.

The EXT2 partition is hidden. It's only for data cache (and databases).

Your internal/external SD stay in fat32.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gaeng4665:
Hi,

Does anyone has successfully unlocked a htc desire from orange switzerland with htccode??

I'm intending to sell my desire (and buy a N1). But before i do i'd like to unlock it for all carriers...

So any news about this would be very helpful.

Many thanks
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] salecg:
Take a look on this before using it http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=10379743&postcount=1
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mariosraptor:
Take a look at www.fastgsm.com

Sent from my LeeDroided Desire HD:-)
[Wildfire Android Development] TheEKey:
Hello folks,

I have an wildfire and don't have 3G data access.

I only have a hotspot account from some carrier that offers plenty of hotspot in the city. It's convenient enough.

So I have Wifi account and is it possible to share it? So some other phones and my laptops could access the internet through my wildfire wirelessly?

So, in short, I have wifi access to the internet and would like to share it. I guess tethering is not doing this. Do you guys have any idea?

Best,

Matt
[Wildfire Android Development] GreenDroid:
Google Pdanet

should make it possible to share wifi through bt or usb.

haven't tried it though

Godspeed

jesper
[Wildfire Android Development] TheEKey:
Thanks for the reply. Should try.

Meanwhile, for the tethering available on google code, will this support sharing Wifi connection?

Or anything else does?

Matt
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] baygrozdan:
Hi guys, can som1 tell me which is the best radio version for "phone" use in bulgaria or east europe. thanks and sorry for my bad english :P
[Epic 4G Accessories] d94:
I sanded down the the back cover so the inductive coil and magnets would fit and drilled a hole for the wires because if they come out at one of the antenna holes the back cover doesnt come on all the way.
[Epic 4G Accessories] protocol6v:
Just use the ground and 5v lines from the USB port. The touchstone back outputs 5v. I did this on my evo, and am looking to do it on my epic now also. google for a mcro USB pinout and figure out which pins are what. I know that the far left and right pins are negative and 5v, but i dont remember which is which.
[Epic 4G Accessories] bendoe91z28:
please to be explaining what is going on here
[Epic 4G Accessories] austin420:
the touchstone is a palm device paired with a palmpre to wirelessly charge your phone. it uses a series of coils and magnets to hold the phone on to a charging base that plugs in to the wall. this mod basically allows you to do the same with any other phone give you have the base and matching battery cover from a palm pre. you just remove the induction plate from the back cover of your phone and attach it to the new phone as best you can. the best mod ive seen is to a touch pro 2.

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=1897496&postcount=12
[Epic 4G Accessories] bonkasnucca:
okay so its not really wireless u still have to keep it stuck on this pad...right???..ahem...so wuts the difference whether u plug in a usb or place it on this pad ur still attached to the wall...sorry i dont get it
[Epic 4G Accessories] d94:
can you please take pics when you do it..i googled but couldnt find it out

fcc info = https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas...me=N&application_id=566932&fcc_id='A3LSPHD700'
[Epic 4G Accessories] DanDroidOS:
This is one of the best ideas. I hope it can be done because I also have two Touchstone chargers:-)
[Epic 4G Accessories] rufflez2010:
Or a dumb one since Compass will no longer work.
[Epic 4G Accessories] d94:
unless o fcourse im already aware and could care less if the compass works, valuing the touchstone 100x over it ;)
[Epic 4G Accessories] Roisen:
It would be safer to plug your phone in and use a multi-meter to find +5 and ground. It looks like the USB port has 8 or 9 pins coming out of it, and standard USB only has 4.

After that, simply find the +5 and ground on the touchstone coil and run a couple of wires to the USB pins

Edit: It looks like the second pin from the left is the +5, but It's hard to tell just looking at the picture. I'm making this guess based on following the trace that it's connected to.

I have a touchstone as well, so I will definitely be watching this thread :D
[Epic 4G Accessories] bubby323:
This is all too complicated for the end user, maybe somebody should just reproduce this in like a battery pack. I would be willing to pay 20 or more for a mod like this. Just saying...
[Epic 4G Accessories] austin420:
i think the touchstone and aftermarket battery cover cost at least 70 dollars alone.
[Epic 4G Accessories] bubby323:
Well I already own a touchstone.
[Epic 4G Accessories] siptang:
Oooooh interesting.. I have two touchstones as well lol.
[Epic 4G Accessories] Roisen:
The technology behind it is dead simple though. It would be trivial to introduce something like this built into a battery pack. IIRC, the voltage on the receiving coil is Vr = Vs * (Cs / Cr), where Vr is the voltage on the receiving coil, Vs is the voltage on the sending coil (the touchstone base) and Cs and Cr are the number of loops in the source and receiving coils.

Therefore it would be easy to make a coil that grabbed 3.6V from the 5V touchstone and fed it directly into the battery. The only problem is that the coil plus voltage protection circuitry inside of the battery would reduce the amount of space that you could actually use for the battery. Considering how small batteries in cell phones already are, even making them a sliver thinner to fit the coil inside of the battery pack would mean a drastic drop in battery capacity.

To the OP: did you have to break any stickers to pull the circuit board out?
[Epic 4G Accessories] d94:
the pics were taken from the fcc website, although there are no stickers!
[Epic 4G Accessories] lepapirriky:
i guess this will work perfect for the other galaxy phones :)
[Epic 4G Accessories] icantdrawanime:
The compass should work fine. The metal disks on the palm back cover are not magnetic. I believe they're just iron disks...
[Epic 4G Accessories] Kcarpenter:
Still the strong magnetic pull from the touchstone base to keep it attached will make the compass act wonky.

I had a leather case for my hero that used a magnet to close the flap and i would have to mess with the compass for like 15 minutes to ever get it to point right again.
[Epic 4G Accessories] bomix:
Haha.. was about to ask the same.. I'm so lost.. Very cool mod though
[Epic 4G Accessories] siptang:
bomix - it's a concept of modification.

Touchstone is magnetic charger for Palm product and some of us are coming from using Palm Pre, Pixi and have some of these laying around and thought it would be cool to make these modifications so that we may charge our phones more conveniently or should I say the way that we are used to.
[Epic 4G Accessories] m5james:
If it doesn't affect the Pre permanently, why would it be any different for us?
[Epic 4G Accessories] protocol6v:
I was just stating what I did for my Evo. Haven't had time to pull the epic apart. There may even be an easier lead to solder to than the usb somewhere else on the board.
[Epic 4G Accessories] edscholl:
it's a inductive charger that uses magnetism to actually hold it on the charger.

the pre doesn't have a compass, does it? ;D
[Epic 4G Accessories] m5james:
Your smiley face is confusing me....are you asking me or telling me, because I've never had a Pre, so I wouldn't know. Either way, if this mod is safe to do, I've got my buddies old Touchstone charger and battery cover ready to go for the great price of free. I started looking into the Samsung Epic Multimedia dock today, but I can't find them any lower than $35 on eBay, which is easily twice as much as I'm willing to pay for something like that.
[Epic 4G Accessories] Roisen:
No the Pre does not have a compass.

I will be attempting this thursday night, when I can get into a lab to use a multimeter.

The only problem I'm forseeing is that the only place where the touchstone equipment can go is right over the battery. Hopefully it doesn't get too warm!
[Epic 4G Accessories] m5james:
You may have done this already in the thread, but can you address the concerns that have been brought up in regards to the magnet from the touchstone affecting the compass...negatively, temporarily, permanently, etc? I'm still flipping the coin between doing the touchstone mod once someone else does a writeup or just waiting for a multimedia dock to come down in price.
[Epic 4G Accessories] d94:
WOOT cant wait to hear of your success and directions :D ill be doing the same once your successful