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[Captivate General] alphadog00:
I find the search function works very well.

As for not liking references to google - I don't see the problem - OK, maybe you were looking for more specific information, but like all things, likes of forums is suggestive. So why not use google, search for Android forums, then pick the ones you like.

So many questions are answered by using google but no one tries that, so unless someone says "I have tried google, and only find X - but I want Y" then a response that says "try Google" is not out of line.
[Captivate General] startngate:
My $0.02 has always been this ...

We were all noobs once. When I was a noob I had enough sense to spend time and effort rooting around XDA to learn about my new (at the time) device

before

I started to ask questions.

Whether it's here, or on any other message board in cyberspace, that is the standard level of expectation that the senior members of the forum have. Experienced members want to help people and often spend a lot of time adding their experience to the forum, but they also want the new members to try to help themselves first. When they see someone ask a question that's answered in a 'sticky' at the top of the page or one or two posts below on the first page, it can be amazingly frustrating, and as others have said, it unnecessarily clutters up the forum.

So yes, sometimes people are harsh. Personally, if it at least looks like someone has tried to find and answer but can't figure something out, I'm always happy to help. Those who make their very first XDA post a question that has been asked and answered many times will get a 'search is a beautiful thing' response from me with a link to the post where the answer is. It's a subtle jab, yes, but at the same time the poster gets an answer. It's not meant to be a 'Thread Nazi'.

Hopefully that nudges them down the path of looking first and not expecting to be spoon fed everything, and to the realization that the forum doesn't exist simply to be a place to pop in and ask a question and go. Every time I pick up a new device and move to a new forum I see a ton of this ... one hit wonders that you never see again.
[Captivate General] gunnyman:
I I don't have a problem with that at all.

But what value does "hey you should have posted that somewhere else dumbass" provide. especially in "Dev"

I mean General is the catch all

Q&A is kind of basic

Themes and Apps are self explanatory.

I see dev section as the "hey I wanna break stuff" department. If the answer to a question could break stuff I say it's a dev question.
[Captivate General] smokestack76:
I agree with most remarks on here. I know i have been too harsh with post on here. But mainly after i read the same post in different threads. I agree that there are alot of newer members now that are lost in the threads lol. So im glad this thread was made and cast new light for me. Guess i need to be nice and more helpfull.
[Captivate General] zelendel:
Well well Smoke seems like once again we are on the same device lol. Ill be working in this forum more closely cleaning things up and trying to help point new users in the right direction.
[Captivate General] smokestack76:
Yes this rocks!!! I guess my talks with a few people worked :D Glad to see ya here :)

Yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[Captivate General] zelendel:
Not really sure about the talks but nice to see a familar face. Feel free to pm me any time. That also goes for everyone else as well. I will will clean the forum up, but been real busy so it may not be right away.

Now for the business at hand, just a fair warning be sure to know the XDA rules as I have some things in the threads that needs to stop. Flaming, Trolling, insulting, cursing, ect... Alot of people are new to android and I understand being overwhelmed but do a search or 2 before posting, for those posting about threads in the wrong section when you report the post put ATT zelendel and I will take a look as soon as I can.
[Captivate General] smokestack76:
Oh man.. So i cant post anymore :p
[Captivate General] Dmoney5150:
If you give a man a fish you feed him for a day if you show him how to fish you feed him for life....
[Captivate General] iamamp3pimp:
The Aria is a good phone.......hell they already have a CM6 FroYo

not a power phone, but a good one......
[Captivate General] techmik67:
I try to 1st answer the question, and 2nd say something like "BTW, this question should be in blah blah before you get flamed =)". I remain nice. We are all noobs at one time or another. I haven't even had my Captivate (1st smartphone) for 30 days yet, and I was only on this forum reading 2 weeks before that.

Take a look at the SRE thread in Development. NEARLY 200 PAGES!!! 2000 POSTS!!! I understand a noob not reading the whole thing, but agree they need to read SOME.

And although I love google, sometimes it's TOO good. Ask a question and get WAY too much back. Ask here, even in a PM, and you'll probably get a good, helpful link IMO....

Just my 2 cents worth.....
[Captivate General] startngate:
Sorry, but I don't agree with you here.

If anyone (noob or otherwise) is going to go down the path of flashing a custom ROM on their device then they absolutely should read the entire thread. That's where updates and bugs are going to show up, and most importantly the 'how to recover when things don't go smoothly'.

Can't tell you how many times you will see new threads started (or even posts in the long thread itself) by someone who didn't read the long thread where their Q was already asked and answered. These are the same people that cry that their phones got bricked by something they did. It's way more important to do you research when flashing ROMs ... even for experienced members.
[Captivate General] Asori:
Good thread... hopefully this takes a few people and turns around their attitudes.

I can completely understand being frustrated when people chose not to read and immediately post up a really silly question. It doesn't help to flame them or troll their posts. Being firm to the rules while providing a helping hand is really the good way to go. It lets them know it's looked down upon to ask a question without investigating, but can put them on the right path at the same time.

I'm not so sure they should read ALL of that. I think they should read more than some, but reading the entire "Development" section for the Captivate is easily a month's worth of work - and this device is only two months old. I picked up the Tilt about a year after it's release... I could probably still be reading posts now if I didn't do some selective digging. :)

All-in-all, people should really feel obligated to do some research in my opinion. I don't want to spend $500 to fix a mistake I made because I was too careless to look some things up first. Unfortunately, not everyone has the same ideology as we do. Even more unfortunately, not everyone who jumps on forums will be as tech-savvy as were are and will need tips, enlightenment, direction, or simply being linked to a/the thread with related information.
[Captivate General] alphadog00:
I absolutely agree - if you read a whole thread (yes you can skim many of the single sentence posts) - you will learn how things get screwed up and how to fix them.

All forums have the same problem (the same problem in the real world too) - people want to be spoon fed. they don't want to do any work for themselves. It is to hard or takes to much time so "just tell me how to do it" becomes the way of everything.
[Captivate General] ewingr:
There are arguments for all sides of this.

I have read complete threads several times, actually. And quite frankly, by the end, sometimes (not always) I am left pretty confused. There would have been so many variations going through the reading that it will certainly confuse a newbie.

The long posts in DEV that I find most helpful that lean me more to tipping a beer to are those where the OP takes the time to update the first post (or first few if he makes the effort to reserve some) with the latest 'how to', issues status, etc.

But at the moment, I am much more annoyed at the people who flame and complain about those that don't read. Especially when rude and obnoxious. Yes, a friendly pointer or reminder is OK, and sometimes necessary.

I just read a thread (on different forum) where the OP's topic was the fact that Samsung had come out with what appears to be a firmware that fixes the GPS problem on the Captivate, and even included a link to the thread. I consider that a post I appreciate and appropriate.

Some goofball a few posts down said "...a simple search would have showed you a discussion already in progress for the google update with some claiming GPS fix."

WTF? That post he was talking about was in a different sub forum. People are going overboard on this. At least the person was at least civil. I think some get a fuzzy about chastising someone, even if subtle.

Some of them spend more effort complaining, flaming, etc, than it would take to just answer the question.
[Captivate General] startngate:
Never said they should read the entire development section ... just that they should read the entire thread of the ROM they are about to flash.

Once you have experience in flashing ROMs it becomes less critical to read the entire thread, IMO. By that time, you know what to do to recover from problems, and if there is a bug or a feature missing, you know the appropriate search terms to use to go digging for solutions. The posters here that want to be spoon-fed everything without actually taking the time to learn about their devices will never get to that point.
[Captivate General] kletiz:
I'm probably some one gunny man blockedand I'm ok with that. Imagine being a mod having to move lock or delete all the nonsense threads that get posted from not searching or reading the stickies. There are rules for a reason. I could do as the mods suggest and report the thread which could cause the user to get a temp ban. Which is worse...a temp ban or someone being a so called "thread nazi?"
[Captivate General] ewingr:
I'm thinking if the are so bad that a mod would ban them, then so be it.

There certainly are plenty of threads like you mention. I'm thinking it is worse right now because of a large influx of new users, who probably are also new to forums and forum etiquette.
[Captivate General] terrigan:
Good thread gunny. My take on this topic is this. You can look at it two ways and don't flame me because i'm showing both sides of the coin.

Firstly, this is a free to register public forum. You'd only come here if you're interested in keeping up with the current Android development trend and discuss all things Android (I know the website has other devices.. i'm talking about this subforum). There's no written rule about forum decorum, it's mostly implied, if someone wants to be a forum nazi, they have every right to do so until they're stopped by the mods for breaking whatever forum rules they do. People are people and will do what they will. Correct me if i'm wrong here.

Secondly, useless posts like the ones gunny described detract from the overall friendliness of the forum. If you can't say something nice, don't say it. We know a lot of people coming here are somewhat new users and maybe new to the whole android experience. It's not a good start to flame them about misposted topics or link them the 'google it for me' page. It's really not our job to moderate the board and you're not helping if you think this attitude is conducive to keeping the peace. If you have something constructive to say, by all means post it. If a new poster misposts, make a decent comment and suggest it go elsewhere. The use of the 'google it for me' is pointless and insulting. It will make a much more pleasant experience for everyone overall and keep the new people intersted.

Well that's my two cents, take it or leave it.
[Captivate General] beazie0885:
Op this is posted in the wrong section dumbass! This belongs in themes and apps, what a ri-tard! mod please move, lol just kidding! I totally agree w/u about some NAZI effers. A simple answer is all that is needed. Although, this is becoming a LOT of clutter of people asking the same question
[Captivate General] Rhiannon224:
Yes, there a lot of noobs here. I am somewhat new to Android, 7 weeks. I have found these forums very helpful. I know when I first joined I posted questions in the wrong place, I quickly learned where to post questions and general ediquette. Thankfully, I haven't run into these Nazi's, everyone has been helpful and I feel that I have learned and continue to learn a lot. I even to try to spend a little bit of time each day, to help out others where I can. I do agree that some of the same questions being asked repeatedly is annoying even to me, especially when you read the same question in every thread. I know that I always read the entire thread on the Developer section before applying any fixes. I studied these forums for 2 weeks before I even rooted, then it was over, I started with ROMs and fixes. I swear you have to spend at least an hour a day to keep up with some of them. I don't understand why everyone dosen't read thoroughly before attempting things.
[Captivate General] Pirateghost:
because we live in the age of 'ME! ME! ME! Tell me how to do it so I dont have to read all that gobblety gook that I wont comprehend anyway!'

it is because society has gotten lazier and too many people refuse to LEARN, they just want it done for them

i too am 'new' to android. this captivate is my first android phone (i dont count the mytouch3g (1.6) i rocked for a month....blech)

i refuse to ask the dumb questions that have been answered a thousand times over in the forums. i read and learn how to use my device and how to get the most out of it. i, unlike a large chunk of our population, like to LEARN how stuff works rather than have someone do everything for me. i am a long way from building my own roms, but i know enough linux, i could probably contribute something at some point.

-my 2c
[Captivate General] gunnyman:
Thanks for all the great comments folks. I just saw some nasty snideness and felt the need to vent about it.

I'm just trying to make sure XDA stays a friendly helpful place is all. :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ounkeo:
Hi, I know there aren't many from Singapore here but I'd like to share what is working for me as some are having really bad data down (300 kbps). As SG is a small place, our HD2 should all be similar (unless you got it from overseas).

ROM: Chuckydroid Rom

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=734238&highlight=chuckydroid

Radio:

2.11.50.26 is most reliable for me. Constant H signal, full bars steady.

2.10 radio works as well but tends to switch to G -3G- H a lot. That alone drains a lot of power I believe.

Android: Shubcraft 1.5

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=740963

Kernel:

I'm using the file: Build_n.7z

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=756513

What's not working or not working well:

- Wifi not working.

- wifi/USB Tethering not working.

To solve this, I USB tether using EasyTether which you can get from Market.

- Screen freeze.

Settings > Display >

Turn off

Auto-rotate screen.

I can't get G sensor to work on any build without freezing my screen.

- MMS might or might not work.

Truth be told, I'm not bothered by it.

- Blue tooth: I don't use so never tested.

What's working?

Pretty much everything else.

My biggest concern really is data speed and reliability. With the builds i listed above, I get very consistent data down. Up isn't so great but I download more than I upload so it works for my needs. You might get disconnected 2-3 times per work day but I consider that reliable enough as my daily work phone.

View attachment 398425

If you want a build that works well with good consistent data, working MMS and working Wifi, use:

SHUBCRAFT 1.4d

replace with zImage dated 24 Aug 2010

Phone setting:

*#*#4636#*#* > Set preferred network type > GSM Auto (PRL)

The default is WCDMA preferred.

Battery uptime:

Isn't great but can get about 4hr hours of constant screen on @ 75% bright, installing apps, browsing, general tasks. Moderate use will get me from 7 am - 10 pm daily.

Try it out and hope it works for you.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] noxnoxnox:
Hi,

I'm also from singapore and i'm using stock rom (1.66.707.1), radio 2.12.50.02_2.

My android build is darkstone froyostone v2, changed my rootfs to the ppp one from mattc.

So far i got 1 restart, no SOD, data works, wifi works, g sensor hasn't had major issues.. Only thing is that it takes a while (1-2sec) to wake from sleep...

Data speed i can get more than 1mbps download and 200kbps upload, so far it hasn't really disconnected by itself.. On singtel btw.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pool7979:
cool . im also a starhub user. shall bookmark this page to discuss issues liao . im using 2.12 radio . haven tried 2.11 before . hows 2.11 compared to 2.12 ? as for me , i previosly had alot of problem with hsdpa as well. kept dc . unntil in windows i change network to gsm 1800 900 from auto . in Android, i use wcdma only . haha . think my settings is kinda of weird . i shall try urs and see how
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] archstein:
hi,

i am in singapore but i dont use 3G/HSDPA. I am just using wifi and works well. now in shubcraft 1.5, radios 2.10.50 and have a few issue

- low volume ( though i have set to max )

- where is the FM radio ?

- compass is pointing to the wrong direction :-(

- laggy and battery goes flat very fast

i have changed my winmo to chuckyROM.

regards
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bjkoh:
Ok, I'm a fellow Singaporean as well, totally reflashing and flashing my phone until I have no idea whats really inside..

I have the Latest Artemis installed, and 3 flavours of android installed, yeah bad idea, but I'm testing out which is better..

So far Darkstone works the best, with Wifi, bluetooth and everything else, hey what happened to the FM Radio? lol..

Battery life is "Jia Lat". Watch the meter drop like a Porche stuch in Orchard Road, one vroom 50Cents.. lol..

I'm thinking of organizing a gathering for ourselves, just sit down have a drink and discuss a little on our findings.. who's keen?

BladeZ
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Shimata:
wow many singaporeans here. I am using Mattc Leo's Froyo w/sense.

Works great. Everything is working for me except for occasional touchscreen freezes which occurs very seldom. It will just go away after locking and unlocking my screen.

Wifi is working for me. My G sensor is on too.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Shijn:
I'm a fellow Singaporean, using STOCK HyperDroidV1.2 with 2.12 radio.

Wifi is working well, volume is ok.

No major issues other than the slow wake up from sleep

3G/HSDPA is inconsistent, sometimes it work, sometime it doesn't.

The only major gripe about my android experience so far is the battery life. With normal usage, smses every now and then, my phone can hardly last a day. :eek:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mongbat:
Hi, from Singapore too. I gave up on android on my HD2 cuz' I can't even boot up with chuckyrom.

Ran haret and booted to the lockscreen only to have the phone reset.

I have since gotten a galaxy S for free, so getting my droidfix there.

Is there a singapore HD2 radio thread anyone can point me to?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pingbangboom:
YEAH! Stand up for singapore, do the best we can!!!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] derycklong:
Hi, i am a singaporean too. :)

Currently using HyperDroid 1.5, best ROM atm since shu8i didnt update shubcraft anymore.

After testing out so many builds by developers, ppp and RMNET doesnt make much of a difference for us. I am getting 200-300 kb/sec download and 10-30 kb/sec upload on average.

What i am concerned is the battery, suck so badly. Screen so big, phone so big, use only a 1230 mAh battery, facepalmed.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] technoglitz87:
aye, sporean here too...on singtel tho haha. tried shubcraft 1.5 before but found it to be a bit more buggy, having probs installing apps onto phone

but gotta admit does look nicer. sticking with bangsters 1.3 for now with chuckydroid. on radio 2.11.50.20. apps have no more problem installing.

battery drain on standby is quite jialat, wake up almost 8-10% gone. but i find that using it on the move occassionally for twitter, fb, surfing, searching and stuff consumes much less than winmo compared. was with dutty's and elegancia's gtx previously.

don't ever think i'm going back to winmo for now until wp7 gets ported. haha.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] cheangjc:
Aye aye so many singaporean lah.wow did not know leh.

i now testing mdeejay_froyo_sense_v2.1a_ppp version.Previously using FroyoStone.

Somehow i find android very lag compared to WM6. I tried others also very lag. rest no problem
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] derycklong:
Tried darkstones' but I think its bugged and laggy, tried HyperDroid and feels that its the most stable and fastest rom out there.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] lordofmoney:
Wow so many singaporen here...suprisely. Using chuckyrom and shubcraft 1.5 with starhub. All working well and only problem face is i cannot surf in facebook and gmail using starhub line. If with home wifi then working fine. M'sia but in and out sg everyday.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bjkoh:
Ok, seems like we're a patriotic bunch.. lol..

Ok! Who's interested for a coffee session. Think there may be some vast age differences but hey, we are all on the same quest to get Android running properly on our HD2 right?

Interested parties, please PM me your contact numbers and name. If you're married, do bring your wives, I'll bring mine since she's suddenly keen on my new quest lol..

BladeZ
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bjkoh:
Follow what i did, i think you'll be pleased..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bjkoh:
Fwah 3 days you bricked your galaxy s ? record man.. hows the condition now, maybe can still salvage?

Android lag compared to WM6? I don't think so man! Mine flies..

Ow yeah, Class 4 and 10 MicroSD cards make a difference in battery life and speed.. I just got a 16GB Class 4 from Sim Lim for $47.00 really significant, format Fat32 @ 32K Allocation Units..

BladeZ
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bjkoh:
Hey i had the same issue with my Bangster when I was on Chuckydroid.. sometimes my audio just disappears. Now, I switched to Ozroid (since I am not using WM any more), Audio is perfect, does not drop off anymore and app installation all works except Flight Director the game for some strange reason, all others work! lol..

When my screen freezes, I press the Window button, and it resumes.

When it sleeps, quite rare it can't come back. If it does decide not to come back, I press the Window button , back arrow and power it comes back.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] derycklong:
I am getting about 2% drain on standby mode
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pingbangboom:
Hi bjkoh, how's ya sg members recuiting? count me in too :)
[XPERIA X10 General] darso:
Hi does anyone know were i could buy a motherboard for the x10i?

Also if anyone had circuit diagrams of the board i could maybe repair mine
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Dude, this is your 2nd thread within a few hours, with (and that's just a guess) the same problem.

I don't think you can buy a standalone PCB, as it is 90% of what makes the phone a phone.

What exactly happened to your or your GFs phone?

Maybe one over here can help out.

But you have to answer the threads instead of starting new ones... :rolleyes:
[XPERIA X10 General] alankstiyo:
it'd be cheaper and faster to get a new x10 xD