yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch CDMA General] jmitr:
I tested many of the 6.5 ROMs, personally I preferred NFSFAN's or Vin's. Some might say they were outdated due to new packages being available, but really you could update those yourself.

I tested Android extensively on the Vogue as well, more so now since it is no longer my primary phone. So many people claim it's a life saviour for the Vogue, I disagree. Several things were buggy in even the so called stable releases. On thing that bothered me was it did not like flight mode, the phone always required a reset after turning the radio back on after too long a period. As a Pilot, I use flight mode quite a bit so that was ****annoying. Many other little things, the music player was always buggy, camera not functioning properly. For all the people who say Android on the Vogue was ready for daily use.........I have to wonder if they've used a real Android phone. I now have the Desire and that thing bloody cooks. NONE of the problems present on the Vogue port are there, everything is lightening fast / almost instant (especially Froyo).

All that aside, the Vogue did run 6.5.5 just fine. With the right ROM, Manila worked good as well. I still think the Vogue is a great phone, especially in Canada with UMB. Alas, I finally upgraded after always being envious of newer phones like the Diamond, Touch pro, Touch pro 2 etc etc and got a Desire. I can't say I regret that decision. The Desire is beyond awesome, I'm still going to use my Vogue to help test newer ROMs, but it looks like there just isn't much out there, especially on the winmo side.
[Touch CDMA General] NuAngel:
The closest thing to a Windows Phone 7 ROM dump out there was in the Dev Kit - once devices start making their way into the hands of the public, the brilliant minds at the root of the modding community can take a look and see what can be done with it.

I actually DO expect a WP7 ROM for this phone to exist, we'll see by about the end of October when the WP7 phones are released (I don't believe any WP7 phone has a firm release date, yet). Android has been a huge boost to this phone, but you can tell it's not an exact match - ESPECIALLY when running from a MicroSD - if you actually flash Android to the phone, it's about 10x better, but still by no means perfect.

I'm expecting WP7 ROMs to exist, to require flashing, and to be "good, not great." We'll see what happens in the next couple of months.

NuAngel
[Touch CDMA General] egzthunder1:
Couple of things here, fellas:

1. I will move this thread to general since it really doesn't have any development on it. However, it is a good topic nevertheless.

2. Da_G was working on porting WP7 to older devices (namely the HD2), but has encountered quite a few roadblocks with it. We have gone through the "will it run?" or "will it be ported?" since 2003 when the Blue Angel was the top of the line phone, so this conversation kinda rings a bell :)

Unlike other versions of WM, WP7 seems to be more tied up to hardware (things like light and tilt sensors, GPS, etc). Also, remember that microSD cards (or any removable media for that matter) cannot be used under WP7 (M$ standards), so we don't even know if the OS can handle external storage yet, so running it from an SD card may end up making the whole system not be able to run at all unless it can be convinced that the SD is actually on-board memory (this is just a guess, so please don't kill me if I just said something terribly stupid).

If it is ported, it will probably run slow and get better as time goes by... that is how it's been since XDA started. Keep your hopes up (and your Vogues around ;)) the devs in here are experts at shocking the world and proving M$ wrong when they tell us that something cannot be done.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] defufna:
Hi everybody.

I'm currently in Canada, but I'm from Europe. I noticed Bell is offering Samsung Galaxy S for only 500 CAD without contract (thats 380 euros) which is not much, and I'm really tempted to buy it. The trouble is Bell is CDMA carrier, and europe is GSM. Bells site claims that Galaxy S is "Global Phone" which should mean that it supports european GSM frequences (I Guess). Does anybody know anything about this ? Would this phone work ok in Europe? Would I be able to use GPRS/EDGE/UMTS data connections in Europe?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] gaelynx:
I was surprised at first but the Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant from Bell is actually a GSM phone!

I'm reading straight from the box:

EDGE / GPRS / GSM Quad band AND HSPA Tri band (850/1900/2100).

So it rocks in Canada and Europe! On 3G and 2G!

I got mine from Best Buy for $560 (including taxes, still a good deal compared to Europe I think).

And now using a Fido monthly plan without contract ^^

Love it !
[Galaxy S I9000 General] pharaohdk:
I recon you would get the best answer by asking a sales person in the store.

maybe even get it in writing incase it turns out to be bull****, so you can get a refund by shipping it back or something
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
3G runs on 850/1900/2100

you might only get the 1900 if you live in Europe

so it will be mostly 2G unless you are in good ares with 1900 signal to get 3G
[Galaxy S I9000 General] FuryriderX:
If your really tricky, you will discover that the bell i9000m is actually a QUAD band gsm/wcdma phone.

850/900/1900/2100 WCDMA, and 850/900/1800/1900 GSM

The extra frequencies have to be enabled in the service menu though. (does not require root)
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clonerep:
No, seriously. I've commented on CM's forums how responsive Firerat is even though I never used his scripts and commands. I offered to buy him so beer. He continued to gracefully, fix the issues presented in the thread but neglected my offer. Since then (err...about 2 months ago), I've needed, used, and appreciated his all in one patch and some other command that resolved a unknown error -18. Does anyone, in the Whole Wide XDA, know how I can donate to his favorite charity (Whether it be women, whiskey or wallabies)?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Xx12thANG3LxX:
Ummm maybe if he neglected your offer. Maybe he just don't need anything from you. Ever thought of that? What a stupid post! Waste of space

sent from my superfroyo dream
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AdrianK:
If he declined your offer you really shouldn't push it. Why not donate a sum to charity?
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] nbetcher:
UPDATE 10/20/10 @ 7:44pm CST: I received a reply from T-Mobile's PR agency Waggener Edstrom Worldwide. Not only was it exceptionally vague, but it didn't even address my topic regarding Bluez, nor did the spokesperson tell us anything that we didn't know already. Overall it was extremely disappointing. It reads:

It seems that the email I sent was not the right place to talk to since they aren't even T-Mobile, nor do they seem very interested in preserving their client's image - the image that is slowly deteriorating because of the lack of support T-Mobile provides in a timely fashion. GG.

UPDATE 10/19/10 @ 8:27pm CST: It has been nearly a month since I sent the letter and I have received no reply. Consequently I sent an email to the T-Mobile Public Relations inbox. Here's the email:

UPDATE 9/22/10 @ 5:45pm CST: the letter was picked up by the mailman on Monday, Sept 20th.

Hello everyone,

The subject of this forum post is fairly self-explanatory as a summary. I strongly encourage you to read this letter. If you agree with the contents, please reply saying you agree along with your first name and first letter of your last name, e.g.:

If you would rather leave your name off of it, simply reply to the post, THEN send me a Private Message stating your name. I will not sign the letter with your name unless you give me your real name. This helps give our letter validity and credit with T-Mobile.

I will not post your name publicly, however I cannot control what T-Mobile does with it.

Finally: PLEASE give me feedback. If you do not agree with something, PLEASE LET ME KNOW!

Criticism is NOT appreciated unless it's constructive

.

Thanks!

P.S. The letter is attached to this post as a PDF.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] ab0m:
I agree! /signed

Horatio X
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] mobile_mogul:
I agree! /signed

Scott R.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] guitarfreak846:
In total 100% agreement! /signed

guitarfreak846 and/or Andrew Gomez
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] ChiefzReloaded:
I agree! /signed

Ryan S.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] ChiefzReloaded:
+1 for ur name being mine backwards lol... last name is Scott... CR ;)
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] eleeo037037:
I agree and hopefully this letter will help in any way I'm giving up on the Slide and going with the G2 due to the lack of development and developers. I'm hoping the G2 community has a stronger hold.

Agree/signed Leonardo Gonzalez.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] guitarfreak846:
That may be what TMO is wanting you to do...that's why they haven't released Froyo updates.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] r0man:
I Agree! /signed

Gabe M
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] epeets:
I agree! /signed

Eshcole P.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] chevycowboyusa:
count me in

I agree/ signed

Jeffery O.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] Bulgaro:
I agree / Signed

@Bulgaro - Jorge Savoff
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] sk8rbebop:
I agree /signed

Ryan T.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] KCRic:
I agree! /Signed

Eric A.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] daniel60104:
I agree! /signed

Ting H.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] imnotashinobi:
i hope they don't reply with a: "we can not comply with your request because it may cause harm to the devices of our customers."

but damn good idea. letter looked quite thought out; only fix i would make is to add some counter arguments they might make to further support our stance.

i agree

Jason K.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] r0man:
Quick note to toss in here: send the link to your friends, post it on your Twitter, your signature. Whatever will get some views, more signatures = more weight with T-Mobile to release to the source code.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] cynikaloptimist:
I agree! /signed

Cameron W
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] h.nocturna:
I agree! /signed

Alvin M.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] valdezpa09:
I agree! /signed

patrick
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] BrooklynAvi:
Nice letter. Thanks.

Avi N.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] encrypti0n:
I Agree

signed

Eddie Renteria
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] daewond3r:
I agree! /signed

Jeremy D.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] dezt818:
I agreee /Signed

Stephen C
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] pleajured:
I agree! /signed

Nick D
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] rukis:
/Signed

Damien G.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] richierich118:
I agree signed Paul.T
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] ardinmcallister:
I Agree

Ardin McAllister
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] mistajayz:
I Agree signed/

Jason P (aka mistajayz)
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] DaemionIX:
I agree /signed

Lord L.

No, I am not joking, that is my first name.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] XiaoSiuMai:
I agree! / Signed

Phillip R.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] tmobilewinguser:
I agree! /signed

Michael M

we may be one of the smallest android groups but lets let them no we stand by our device:D
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] krypto16:
I agree

Signed Mike V
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] infinitybiff:
Signed

-Brendan M.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] sandpaperback:
I agree! /signed

Joshua L
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] Droidz:
Signed,

Herinel P.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] cdt82002:
I agree!/signed

Chris T.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] Rene-357:
I agree /signed

Rene R.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] em2drvr03:
I agree! /signed

Frank V
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] donkey72:
I agree./signed

Chad S.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] bone$:
I agree! /signed

Kenny N.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] poacher2010:
I agree/ signed

Matt B.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] thatduderob:
I Agree/signed

Robert M
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] xanos01:
i agree 100%/signed

Juan c

cmon t-mobile step it up your getting smoked by sprint and verizon on updates.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] eleeo037037:
+1 if every one retweets it can get more signiture and put more pressure on T-Homos
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] migueltherocker:
I agree. /signed.

Miguel M.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] arayray:
I agree! /signed

Ray M
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] RavenWulf:
I agree/signed

Thomas M.

I have noticed TMO has 2 definitions of "coming soon"

1. Coming soon + device = 14 to 30 days

2. Coming soon + software/ firmware upgrade/update = 6 to 9 months... maybe
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] donepate:
I agree/signed

Don P.

If we don't yell, they wont here us.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] cidica:
I agree.

/signed.

Eric F
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] mjones1052:
I agree! /signed

Mike J.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] Tribunal21:
Cosign

100 percent agreed / signed

Signed : Jacob Serna
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] ImABoss:
I Agree! / Signed

Paul O.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] tonyriceroni:
I agree

/signed

Tony N.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] Whoareyou:
I agree /signed

Christian S.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] HebrewToYou:
I agree.

/signed

Sam B.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] jreed3786:
I agree! /signed

Joshua R
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] BSDADON:
I agree /signed

Kenny C.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] r00ktard:
I agree! /signed

Richard F.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] rubbachicken:
Agreed - Mark B
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] tahbasco:
I Agree! / Signed

Chioke J.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] kingofyo1:
I DEFINITELY agree

/signed

Drew B
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] tembone:
I agree! /signed

Tim F
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] megan23247:
I agree!/ signed

Megan F
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] Hellraz0r:
I agree!

/ signed

Chad R
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] ConviK:
I agree /signed

Antonio S.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] perknite:
I agree /signed

Andre P.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] benmarvin:
I agree! /signed

Ben Marvin
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] acejoker25000:
i agree /signed

Troy k
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] mmmark111:
I Agree! / Signed

Mark T.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] xl DIGITAL lx:
I agree /signed

Kevin M.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] r0man:
If any of you have a Twitter retweet this :)
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] sino8r:
Are you one of Michael Jackson's children, lol? Sorry... I had to say it!

Your darn tootin' I agree to dem terms!

Signed,

Lee T.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] erktheerk:
I agree /signed

Eric K
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] slughappy1:
I agree! /signed

Jason H
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] Butzacooky:
I agree /signed

Saffan A.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] tangrams:
I agree! /signed

Davis I.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] chrispilot2293:
I Agree. /signed

Chris M.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] kevev:
I Agree. /Signed

Kevin E.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] whoisloon:
i agree

Luan N.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] mylostlonelysoul:
Agree/Signed

Ian F.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] Tatdude806:
I AGREE /signed

Ben H.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] sixtninecat:
Sixtninecat

Agree/signed

Sent From My ROOTED HTC Espresso Running CR's OTA ROM
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] panja7:
I agree /signed

Panja
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] DaemionIX:
No, thank god. I'm fairly normal
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] Virus1x:
I agree! /signed

SSGT. Justin Brunen USMC
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] sino8r:
That's good. I thought it sounded kinda similar... Lord and Prince. Sorry for the joke. I sure you heard plenty of those during your childhood. I almost got stuck with some bad names myself, like Leonardo and Leon (some ancient Italian relatives) but thank goodness they stuck with Lee. Do you go by your middle name or something?
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] heybobitsme:
I agree /signed

Robert R.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] chrisinaz:
I agree. /Signed

Chris H.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] colorcopies:
agree /signed

Austin C. E.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] GoCkillaz:
I agree! /signs

Will R.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] Butzacooky:
I feel very picky but could you do the following:

Add a space between Dear T-Mobile and On behalf...

Also to make this letter seem oh so slightly more formal, change "doesn't" to "does not" in 3rd word in last sentence in 2nd paragraph.

Unless, of course, you don't want to :p

Just felt extremely picky :D
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] caspiansan:
I Agree. /signed

Brandon Z
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] jimdb:
I agree /signed

Jim D B
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] nbetcher:
Thanks for the feedback. As you may have noticed, I am picky as well. I have changed the items you requested.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] texanman:
Woot /agree

John E.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] MaGSiE:
I agree /signed

Erick M.

sent from mamamamamatouch Slidizzle
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] cveez11:
I agree./signed.

cveez11 or Cliff V.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] archie53:
I agree/signed

Matt M
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] remixtherom:
Agree! /signed

Carlos C
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] rodriguez27:
Agree! /signed

Danilo R
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] eagle20g:
I agree! /signed

Kirk W
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] steve0183:
agreed.

Signed

Steve S.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] rlogan:
/signed

Ross L
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] bled82:
I agree! /signed

TJ B.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] ryanshowers:
Agreed and signed.

Ryan S.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] Jay_8698:
I agree.

/signed

Marvin J.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] M9x3mos:
Although I agree would be awesome to know the status since we have been told will be released. HTC will not be compelled to release source code for proprietary bluetooth control. That is specific to htc and sense not included in the android base so there for also not enclosed in the gpl that you speak of. Will really need to wait dor release to get blue z
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] jreed3786:
Wonders why this post has over 2,700 views, yet only 109 replies. C'mon, peeps... it only takes a second to help the cause! XDA ftw!
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] poacher2010:
More views cause people who signed are seeing who else did... its the same people over and over
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] mdajunkie:
I agree /signed

Johnny S

Letter was well written. You want to write some of my papers sometime lol.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] riverajuan:
I Agree! /signed

Juan R
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] jakal323:
Bluez is GPL'd. Hence any derivatives need to have source available.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] haloway13:
Agreed

Tim H.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] lckyluciano:
I agree! /signed

Luke L
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] sryan1983:
I agree! /signed

Stephen R.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] OgBrog:
Signed! -Kit Brogdon
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] seannieboii:
I agree! /signed

Sean A.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] timothyjok:
I agree/ signed

Tim O
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] yellofo0:
I agree! /signed

Danny S
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] Undert8726:
I agree/ Signed

Justin S.

Samantha F.

Trey F.

Lamar S.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] thegreenfamily04:
I agree

Where is My FROYO Damnit !

Troy G.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] eccramer:
I agree /signed

E. Cramer

I really hope we get working bluetooth on CM6 soon. I know that it's not the fault of the Devs that it doesn't work, but it's killing me not having bluetooth. I think I might roll back to CR's 2.1 OTA Rom if this doesn't get resolved soon. I know that CyanogenMod will get it eventually, but I really can't just wait and hope anymore. Hopefully this will get TMo on the ball about releasing official 2.2.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] bearcat668:
I agree.

Holly H
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] landykos:
I agree /signed

Landy
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] nbetcher:
They use Bluez as it can be proven by looking at the binary tree in the ROM. That means they are required by United States copyright law to release the source code to their work.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] ChiefzReloaded:
+1 Cosign....
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] netmerc:
I agree /Signed

Max D.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] wyvernwaddell:
I agree!

signed Lisa Waddell

aka wyvernwaddell
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] nbetcher:
Please consider this thread closed as of this post. The letter has been written, co-signed, and I'm mailing it shortly (need to buy stamps and envelopes - what can I say? I'm not much of a snail-mail person).

The last person to make the list was Holly H. (since Landy didn't provide an initial for last name).
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] dragon4000:
Can I still get in?

I agree/signed

Alan G.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] reukiodo:
and yours is mine backwards

I agree! /signed

Miles Raymond
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] rolfd:
OK, as the letter has been sent i'm closing this thread as per the request of the OP.

It will be reopened when there is any news or info needing added. I'm going to make it a sticky for now so it doesn't get lost in the other posts.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] nbetcher:
Update: The letter was picked up by the mailman on Monday, Sept 20th.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] nbetcher:
Posted updated today. See OP for changes.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] Jlluna87:
thanks for the update. i've been looking this post for the past few days looking to see if T-mobile had given you a response. wasn't holding my breath, but hey we can dream, right?
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] KCRic:
It definitely was worth a shot. I just don't think we (XDA) constitute enough of their market to have any weight on any major cell carrier. It's sad really but their market is based on the average, dare I say, technology illiterate consumer that doesn't care about any of this stuff but would rather complain about their phone's performance or lack of whatever they desire.

HTC, T-Mobile, and any other company that keeps open source code closed or holds back updates only causes us to get more creative, furthering our evolution in this field. Soon, we won't need them - we'll just create our own damn phones:D

Can you see the headline?

Coming soon:

The XDA **** and the Cyanogenmod ****

I say we go for it, show 'em how much we need them and their fancy subsidized locked down plastic bricks;)
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] nbetcher:
I received a reply from Waggener Edstrom Worldwide regarding my email in regards to following up. Check OP for details.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] wesgarner:
put me on the list - Wes Garner
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] izzy001:
I agree / signed

Israel A.