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[Captivate General] 8525Smart:
Er, I'm not sure why consulting Jesus is necessary. There is nothing morally incorrect about this.

As for legality: In some cases, eBay will prevent you from doing this (they did so with the Xbox 360, Wii, and PS3, I believe), but it is usually due to the companies contacting them and asking them to do so. In other words, it is usually something voluntarily enforced by certain companies for whatever reasons. In most cases, however, they will not do this, and I don't believe they're doing so for the iPhone 4.

I understand there are also some out there who find the concept of buying something then selling it higher elsewhere due to shortages is morally objectionable, but frankly, I haven't heard a good argument for why it is yet.

To get to the point, if you so desire to get an iPhone 4 and sell it on eBay for profit, it is entirely up to you.
[Captivate General] Kaik541:
good luck being able to unlock the iphone.

the jailbreak is broken on 4.02 and you need to jailbreak to unlock

all phones are shiping at least with 4.02 and soon 4.1
[Captivate General] TexUs:
Yea, unlocking it is your main issue.

The only reason the phones that exist sell so high is because they're unlocked... An ATT user won't buy a locked phone for $1000 when they can buy it for $200 from ATT...
[Captivate General] Jack45:
WWJD?

Seems o.k. to me...thanks for asking.

Jack
[Captivate General] Clienterror:
I live by WWZ(Zilch)D. So far I've gotten 2 STD's, bricked my captivate 37 times and it's caught fire (twice). This isn't working out so good for me.
[Captivate General] Ryukeima:
I don't see any reason why this would be morally objectionable or against any laws.

Morally speaking, cell phones are not a necessity, they are luxury, so it is worth whatever people are willing to pay for it; its not like you are overcharging for medicine, food, or shelter.

Legally speaking, you purchased the phone and I am pretty sure it does not say anywhere in the contract that you must keep the phone until your contract is up; or else they wouldn't offer early upgrades since that would endorse contract violations.

And as far as WWJD, he would probably give the phone away for free and buy a new one, and I don't think you want to do that...
[Captivate General] wuxingwarrior3:
Lets get this straight, I'm pretty sure Jesus would use his magic to turn a huge profit and blow it on drugs and hookers. Isn't that what revelations was about? It's been a while since sunday school.
[Captivate General] ubufugu:
I did this back when I had an iPhone 3g. I sold it when My contract ended to get a backflip for $100 on a new 2 year, then turned around and sold it for $300+, so I had around $550 to play around with, and at&t didn't care.

Also, installed clockworkmod and quickboot on a captivate at at&t today, but didn't have time to root it :(
[Captivate General] Hydrocharged:
I'd say go ahead with it. I mean, $1000 for an okay phone is stupid, but if people are buying it, then it makes them stupid (or ignorant, as they apparently aren't aware of the Galaxy S series). In fact, this sounds like a good idea...I might want to do it!

IMO, the iPhone 4 should sell for around $500 unlocked on eBay...
[Captivate General] sevenvt:
So you do have a backup phone right?
[Captivate General] wuxingwarrior3:
Yeah my projected value of $1000 may seem a bit high, they average around $600-$800 for unlocked 16GB brand new iPhone 4

Ah I foresaw this as a problem as well, I figured I would just purchase a captivate at non-contract price now, and wipe and exchange the original Cappy for the iPhone 4 so I won't go through any withdrawal symptoms while the iphone is selling on ebay. Yeah I'll have to front some money but I should double my investment. Plus, I got $250 for selling my 1 yr old unlocked iphone 3G so I already have some spending money. Man people will pay lots of money for iCrap
[Captivate General] Kaik541:
actually, and correct me if I'm wrong, fairly certain the terms of service for buying a SUBSIDIZED phone (which, if you buy as an upgrade is subsidized) requires you to activate and use it on your line. they claim if you don't use it on one of your lines, they will charge you the difference or equivalent early termination fee.

now for how they enforce that or how often is probably extremely low. for instance, my sister used my mother's upgrade option to buy an iPhone 4 and the AT&T corporate store even did the process for us in the store. clearly they don't genuinely care, but I believe it's within their right to charge you for breaking the terms of the contract.
[Captivate General] sevenvt:
And then if the iphone doesnt sell and ask those people on ebay are just waiting for rubes? :P I would be careful of using ebay as a measuring stick for the actual selling prices on the iphone, considering its off contract price.. Edit: nevermind there is none, all contract. I wish you luck with your iphone... Personally if I was going to buy a 1000 dollar phone I just get an ipad, hope no one is that smart
[Captivate General] Hydrocharged:
If I were to buy a $1000 phone, it'd be a Samsung Galaxy S with a bug-free Froyo and without any trace of Touchwiz :)
[Captivate General] kareeem:
I'd definitely do that. I actually did it once with the iPhone 3GS, made a really nice profit. I usually find ways to get my phones for decent prices and save my contract for an iPhone to do what you're thinking of doing.
[Captivate General] sevenvt:
No no a galaxy tab
[Captivate General] Dani897:
Why would someone buy an iphone when they can get an i9000 for less and not have a need to unlock it, Or a fear of breaking the unlock with a new update?

But its not morally objectionable to me, there crooks any way and the legalities of eula's are questionable at best. I don't know about the contract details but if you can manage to keep the sim from the current cappy then how will they ever know? If only the iphone had a normal sim then you'd have nothing to worry about!

I Know lawyers can mess everything up but from a moral stand point these are big companies and don't need protecting I think it would be wrong of them to infringe on your right to sell your property. In the end you are still locked in to a contract, apple still makes a buck and att still makes a buck.
[Captivate General] alphadog00:
AT&T could refuse you service. I doubt it though.

Just like the retailers that have decided not to sell to their customers that frequently merchandise; AT&T could see that you were a frequent customer that bought phones and paid the ETF - they may decide it is 2 much to deal with.

But you are not planning on paying the ETF or cancelling service, so probably no problem.

BTW, on a technology forum you should try to be more inclusive - how about WWYD? Yoda
[Captivate General] wuxingwarrior3:
Duly noted :D
[Captivate General] sevenvt:
Its only objectionable because you have to raise iphone sales indirectly.
[Captivate General] rajendra82:
Jesus would keep the iPhone 4, because with his touch the reception would improve.
[Captivate General] esox23:
Here is why I wouldn't do it and do not recommend it to anyone.

with At&t they have a completely different setup for the iPhone data package VS. the typical smartphone data package. So once you purchase the iPhone 4 activate it with an iPhone data package and then sell your iPhone for xxxx.xx and pick up a Captivate, you will need to call At&t and have them get your data pacvkage moved over to the Captivate. This will likely void your exisiting contract with At&t, in turn allowing them to charge you the contractual ETF.

Be very careful when playing with phones and plans.

I bought a Captivate from Wirefly had problems with random shutdowns, they have a 7-8 day turn around before you get a new phone, this was not acceptable for me. So I opted to return the phone for full refund, and buy from At&t so if I had anymore problems I could go right to the store, fixed same day. Problem is I extended my contract through wirefly, so now I have my iPhone back in service but NO DATA until the contract extension is fully reveresed, because they are different setups for data and At&t couldn't do anything because chaging it would have voided the contract I am waiting for to be reversed. To make it worse wirefly will reverse the contract but they don't give 2 ****s whether or not the plan options are right, so I will have to call At&t and make sure that I keep my unlimited data plan... Moral of the story here is the best deal ($$ Wise) isn't always the best deal (everything else wise).
[Captivate General] sevenvt:
No need to activate. Thus no data change.
[Captivate General] 8525Smart:
AT&T's TOS contains a lot of stipulations (after all, they're designed that way), but that is definitely not one of them. Here is the TOS: http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...erviceAgreement&q_termsName=Service+Agreement

The closest I can find to what you mention is that AT&T doesn't allow the unlocking of their phones. Honestly, I don't see why they would include such a rule. If you purchased a subsidized phone, they have what they want already: The money for that phone (if there is any pricetag to it) and you locked on a contract. I don't see why they would care whether you use the phone you got on contract or not.

Fun fact: Here's a thing you may not know -- AT&T's TOS technically prohibits the usage of such software as TeamViewer, Pandora, and RSS. Basically, if it uses a large amount of data, the TOS probably prohibits it specifically or under a technicality.

But, of course, AT&T is not going to try to enforce such a thing. It would be a PR disaster and, aside from that, I question the ability to enforce such a thing if a lawsuit comes up. Just because it's included in a contract you sign does not mean it will hold up in the court of law.
[Captivate General] startngate:
Good thing you are not a lawyer .... :confused:

AT&T will be very happy to switch your data plan over to the Captivate if you change phones. When you sign up for service you can raise or lower your plans, add features, subtract features ... it really doesn't matter as long as you don't go below any minimums that happened to be listed in your contract.

Switching phones is not going to void your contract. Just ask all the iPhone users here that now have Captivates if AT&T wanted to void their contracts for switching. Will never happen. They want to keep you as a customer.

This is actually very good advice (Be very careful when playing with phones and plans.) coupled with a great example of the reason why I never buy phones/contracts through a reseller. You are relying on a third party to take care of you, not the company actually providing services. Totally different standard of care.

As for the OP ... there's nothing illegal or immoral about what you are proposing to do (as described anyway). The only issues you have are actually unlocking the iPhone, going through the hassle and time to sell it, and if the profit is worth it for your time and energy.
[Captivate General] rsmith675:
Absolutley not not this is nothing but good ol american commerce not
[Captivate General] Ryukeima:
I am not sure what you just said.
[Captivate General] wuxingwarrior3:
My thoughts exactly :D

I just purchased a Captivate on ebay for $375. Phase I is complete. Now I just have to wait for it to arrive and PRAY that it doesn't suffer from random shutoffs or other strange hardware glitches :o

That would be Yoda's way of telling me not to mess with the natural order of cell phones and contracts. In Yoda's name we pray, amen
[Captivate General] wuxingwarrior3:
I think he was saying absolutely nothing wrong with my plan, good old american commerce at work. Always looking for a quick buck and a person to screw. Thanks capitalism.

Allow me to translate:

Absolutley not not, this is nothing but good ol american commerce not
[Captivate General] wuxingwarrior3:
Updated the OP with some details of progress
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] krazyflipj:
Hi,

Do u have to do the battery charging tip everytime or just once? Im referring to the method mentioned a few times where when light turns green, unplug, turn off, plug in til green, unplug. Do it 10x

Sent from my CM6 powered device
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SilverZero:
Battery stats reside in /data which gets wiped when you flash a new ROM (or when you wipe /data or factory reset). That's when you need to recalibrate, if I understand correctly.

If you mean every time you charge the battery, then no. But it might be good to do it once a month or so (I may be pushing erroneous info, but I doubt it would hurt - just have to wipe battery stats once it's fully charged after the unplugging/plugging cycles).
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] krazyflipj:
What I meant was after wiping and calibrating, to get a full charge, would i have to do the charging method minus the wipe everytime?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] vally78:
Hello,

I JUST upgraded to MR2 from verizon on my touch pro 2. My main concern is that it does not show the missed calls on the home screen anymore. I have to go to notifications to click on missed calls to see them.

When i was looking around i saw this thread:

ww.wmexperts.com/tags/touch-pro-2

(sorry i had to take the w out of www to be able to get the link above to post)

and it shows a picture of my phone, with the MR2 upgrade WITH the missed calls showing!

What am i doing wrong? How do i get my missed calls to show back up on the screen.

as a side note, it also shows calendar items, my phone also does not show calendar items. It seems to me that my first row of quick links is up too high (that is where the missing calls and calendar show up on the picture for MR2)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] kiint:
you mean this pic?

http://www.wmexperts.com/sites/wmexperts.com/files/articleimages/50/2010/06/verizontp2.PNG

That looks like a stock 6.1 rom to me, no link icons on the home page, etc.

Maybe they were just lazy with the photos and just used any old TP2 pic?

if you find a way to get it working on 6.5 MR2, please *DO* post it here :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] vally78:
Yes, that was the picture i was talking about. Looking more closely, i believe you are right. That does look like the old MR1, especially since it has a Task MGR icon at the top (which i had to download an extra cab file to get back after upgrading to MR2)

i am seriously considering wiping my phone and not doing the upgrade to MR2 JUST for my missed calls!
[Galaxy Spica General] dark_dream:
Hello I wonder if a version of struts provided Psgroove Thanks
[Galaxy Spica General] dark_dream:
up ! person to develop Psgroove for spica
[General Questions and Answers] TSHENANIGANSMAN:
have some problems here.

Sometimes when i make a call people ar unable to hear me

sometimes im unable to send a sms back to the person who has just sent me a sms.

I'm using R 2.07.50.51

Energy rom update newist one.

On Orange UK!:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
[General Questions and Answers] :
When you say Energy ROM which is the actual version? I'm using the 8th Sept Energy Cookies Home with Dinik & radio 2.12.50.02_2 and also on Orange UK. This combination is the best I,ve had with the HD2. Blistering performance and no battery drain. Maybe you should try changing your radio.
[General Questions and Answers] TSHENANIGANSMAN:
Will try and update on outcome.

Cheers Flashaholic
[Vibrant General] tigereye313:
Quick question about watching video on the Vibrant. I'm using handbrake and downsizing to 480 pixels in width with 60% quality on the compression and video still seems choppy. Ive also tried closing open apps but no dice. Any thoughts?
[Vibrant General] woodie:
Which app are you using to play video? I ran into an issue where RockPlayer stuttered like crazy trying to play a 720p video whereas the native video player on the Vibrant played it flawlessly.
[Vibrant General] gbakabg:
I use the stock player and just drag files over to the and no lag issues for me
[Vibrant General] tigereye313:
Ive tried the stock app and mVideo with similar results.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ATZ-007:
Hi guys, years back (before android) on my Nokia phone I use to use a software called “Nokia Movie Director”. It use to allow me to combine pictures, music and preloaded effects to create a short move (slideshow in video format).

I was wondering is there any similar application on android?

Many thanks,
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sheek360:
Nope. You should see how great the iPhone implements that
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ATZ-007:
Well no good talking about iPhone coz I’m on android

But thanks anyway,
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jack_R1:
Unfortunately, this is one area where Android apps didn't touch yet.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tchoukito:
Hi all,

Anyone can create a zip signed file or services.jar for push with adb into our Modaco R22? :)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Just_s:
I'm wondering if there is an app out there (or if someone would know how to make one) that shows the actual timestamp for when other apps turn on and off?

I think most rooters are familiar with System Panel, which is a great tool for checking out phone usage and monitoring battery consumption, but it could be so much more useful with a little more detail.

For example, in the monitor view, you can see the graph of when your cpu was running and even pull up a list of the top apps that were in use, but that list only shows the percentage of time an app was in use over a particular period. It is rather worthless information really, to know that the System Processes were on for 8m32s the past two hours.

What would be helpful would be to know that System Processes came on at 8:03am for 8m32s. Then you could easily match up the various apps with the spikes on the chart and really dial down what is using battery.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Just_s:
54 views in a day and no posts/responses? I guess I will take that as "the app does not yet exist". :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Joans:
I'm not sure what I've done, but I obviously wasn't paying attention. I had RyanZA's 2.3 beta lagfix installed and I decided to uninstall it using the supplied script. At some point I saw my phone reboot and I thought it had finished, but I don't really remember what happened after that.

Anyway, I've got it to the stage where it just shows the i9000 startup screen, goes black, then shows the i9000 screen again. I can get into recovery and I've got clockwork recovery installed as well, so I can get into that. I've used adb, but I can't get a log of it booting because it just says waiting for device and never gets past that stage. I used adb shell to see if I could manually process the scripts, but it looks like all the data and the backups of the data folders are gone.

I've wiped data in both clockwork and stock recovery, but I still can't get the phone to boot. System still looks ok, so I'm not sure why it's not working.

Anyway, my main question is, how can I get my phone back up and running? The mount usb option doesn't seem to be working, so I guess I'll have to use Odin or KIES, but what do I flash? Is there a link for a stock UK i9000 firmware somewhere?

Update:

Ok, I've got the phone working again, but after using Odin to flash the firmware, it reboots into recovery and I get the message can't mount /dev/block/stl11 (invalid argument)

The phone boots ok, but I can't download anything from the market ("download unsuccessful" almost immediately)

Internet works fine, so I don't think that's the problem.

Further update:

After Odin has flashed, the phone boots into recovery with the following messages:

E: Can't mount /dev/block/stl11 (invalid argument)

update media, please wait ...

E: Can't mount /dev/block/stl10 (invalid argument)

E: copy_dbdata_media:Can't mount DBDATA: copy default media content failed

E: Can't mount /dev/block/stl11 (invalid argument)

E: Can't mount /dev/block/stl11 (invalid argument)

This was after flashing WJM6 with .513 pit
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nalinbhatt:
You can try this...connect your phone with KIES and update it with the official firmware. I have not tried this so I dont know if it will help you.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Joans:
Thanks, I eventually got it to work by flashing the WJG5 firmware. It would probably help if I'd known what it was actually running in the first place.

Now I've got it working though, I might try connecting to KIES and seeing if there's an updated version.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darkfire_bg:
hey there, is this resolved? i got mine working after

can't mount /dev/block/stl11 (invalid argument)

but its still there. Do u know how to clean this error?

Update: I Fixed it by reflashing to WJG5 as stated above. BUT when i tryed reflashing with newer rom its still there..
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] a-son:
Hello

I had the same and i solved through the guide here:

http://briefmobile.com/how-to-android-2-2-on-galaxy-s

But i think the problem really was that i have make an ext2 partition on sd-card.

I removed the sd-card during flashing.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sean2476:
Hi Guys, I'm looking for some help for a mate of mine who can't get his Samsung Galaxy S to start up.

The phone is box standard from Vodafone and only a couple of months old. It hasn't been rooted or tampered with in any way.

Today he decided to plug it into kies to check for updates and it showed him that there was an update available for his phone. he followed the on screen prompts and went about updating it. After it updated the phone just died on him. I have spoke to him over the phone to try and explain the 3 button recovery method to him but he still can't get it to boot up. He has sent me a photo of his phone so hopefully that may help for any potential advice. I'm no phone expert but could easily follow any instructions/ guides on flashing etc.

Any advice or help would be most grateful

Cheers, Sean
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DamianGto:
Pull out the usb cord.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sean2476:
He has done that and still no Joy :(
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stephengoo:
If the phone can enter download mode, it can be rescued. Otherwise, it was definitely bricked.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DamianGto:
Try to pull out the battery for 10 minutes. Then but the batteri back.

Then try to get in download mode.

If you can't, the try to see if odin see it.

If odin can see it try to flash back original firmware.

If you are lucky it can work.

If not then it seems very bad.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sean2476:
Thanks Damian, I will pass this info on to him tomorrow. I wish my mate lived closer so I could have a go at it myself.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] XlAfbk:
i do have the exact same problem but flashing JM8 doesn't solve it.

in odin 1.3 with re-partition enabled I used s1_odin_20100512.pit, CODE_I9000XWJM8.tar.md5 as PDA and MODEM_I9000XXJM4.tar.md5 as phone

on startup I still get "E:Can't mount /dev/block/stl11 (Invalid argument)"

any ideas please?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DamianGto:
Why dont you flash crc also?

Try to do a complete flash.

Then go in recovery more and do wipe catch and a factory reset.

If you manage to get it to boot do format your internal sdcard.

Sent from GT-I9000 Jpm OS kernel with z4mod
[About XDA developers] thor1:
hi i have a htc hd2 and am quite new to smartphone tech so please be gentle lol
[About XDA developers] TheATHEiST:
Smartphone my arse!

You have just insulted teh HD2, Its a GENIUS phone!!!

Also I could be wrong but this isn't the forum to introduce yourself, this is the "About xda-developers.com" forum, and you are not XDA ;)
[About XDA developers] Captainkrtek:
Welcome to XDA :)