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[Vibrant Android Development] Fedburin:
Regarding battery use...

I have found this program to useful in determining which program is eating the battery. Yes - I know part of it is a task manager and yes it does also consume battery; however, without this program all I was seeing was "display 83%" when looking in about battery - not at useful in determining the cause of battery consumption. This program provides the necessary resolution to troubleshoot battery issues.. That being said I haven't found any one culprit for battery drain. Battery drain was more excessive with stock OTA JI6 although it was similar to stock Bionix and Bionix with JAC OC/UV. I know how to flash roms properly. I know how to flash kernels. I can read the OP - so yes when I was using stock it was actually stock; same for Bionix etc. I can and did condition the battery. Unfortunately, I am unwilling to run the phone without apps so I always reload all my applications using TB. I am also unwilling to not run widgets, connect to the internet, etc as this defeats the purpose of having an Android phone. This makes all my findings anecdotal. Obviously an app I have reloaded could be causing excessive drain. I wish I had a control sample phone but I am not rich ;).

That being said I found one major item that helps with battery life. I live in a rural area with poor reception. I turned off 3g and made the WiFi never sleep. This stops the phone from trying to sync and pull data over a crappy cell phone signal and rather uses my WiFi connection. The WiFi connection going to sleep is the only reason I could explain for the massive battery drain during the night that a lot of you are experiencing. There was an article on this over at Android Forums - unfortunately I can't find the link.
[Vibrant Android Development] ekeefe41:
I have flashed nearly every rom on these boards, I specificaly searched this thread for "battery" before flashing, my origional post was about the ji6 rom's in general... I thanked the maker of this rom at the end of my original post...

I'm not sure what your issue is with my posts... why don't you just move along if you not going to help..

To the other guy that asked about vibrant9

It is a rom made by eugen based on older releases, nothing from ji6 is mixed in. go to the sticky about the different rom's and you will find it there.
[Vibrant Android Development] soloecho7:
Hey guys I just have a question I'm wondering if there will be a fix for reboot into recovery via clockwork its not a big deal for me I went to recondition my battery and it took me to stock I know how to get in via buttons but others may not. As I said its no biggie to me just curious. Thanks guys been running bionix since 1.4 and have loved every one. Thanks for the hard work.

sent from New Year Zero
[Vibrant Android Development] mmas0n:
The TouchWiz framework doesn't replace the keyboard because you're probably using the Swype keyboard, which is skinned separately. You can find a stock Swype skin in the Vibrant MetaMorph thread here on XDA. It's not perfect because the skin is actually for Swype with voice input, but it works and is accurate. Obviously, you'll need to install MetaMorph to apply it.

Can't speak to any differences in the TW app drawer as I use Launcher Pro.
[Vibrant Android Development] ardchoille:
I'm consistently getting over 24 hours on a single charge and I thought it might be good to post some things to think about.

Calibrating your battery:

1. Let the phone run until it dies from lack of power

2. While the phone is off, charge it until the battery is fully charged

3. After charging is finished, boot into ClockworkMod recovery and wipe the battery stats

4. Repeat the above steps after each flash and each month thereafter

5. Reboot into android and enjoy

What happens here is the phone gets the correct low end of the meter when it dies from lack of power. Charging the phone while it's off allows the phone to get the correct high end of the meter when you reboot after charging and wiping battery stats.

My usage:

1. I don't use any widgets - any app that polls for information (facebook, twitter, weather, etc.) is going to use power in doing so

2. I charge the phone nightly - probably not necessary but I have to sleep anyway and it's not hurting anything to plug it in while I do so

3. I keep wifi, gps and bluetooth off unless I'm actually using them

4. I don't use a task killer - killing tasks only causes them to have to restart at some point and finish their job

5. My screen auto-timeout is set to 1 minute and auto-brightness is on

6. No two phones are going to have the same exact battery life

7. Realize that the phone is doing work even while the screen is off so it's expected that it uses some power

8. Super AMOLED screens don't use any power to display a black pixel - the black theme is actually beneficial for the battery

9. I calibrate my battery after flashing any ROM and then again every two weeks

10. I don't keep an app installed unless I'm using it on a daily basis

I am told by someone who works with this kind of batteries that they have an initial spike and then taper off from there - so the battery is going to lose power faster from 100% to 90% than it is from, say, 50% to 40%. You can't really judge how long the battery will last by noticing any ten percent increment and then assuming all ten percent increments will last the same amount of time. Use a stop watch to time the different ten percent incriments and you'll see what I mean.

Opinions:

1. You have to sleep so you might as well charge the phone while you're sleeping

2. Why not just open a weather/facebook/twitter/other app and hit the refresh button instead of having a widget waste battery life polling information while the screen is off?

3. These phones do a lot more work than a standard voice-only phone so it's expected that the battery on this phone isn't going to last as long
[Vibrant Android Development] Dragoth12:
Re Flash, if you are still having the boot cycle when trying to charge, you may have to Odin back to stock and re flash Bionix after that. To your second question, I have seen a couple people say they have successfully flashed Bionix onto an i9000, however, they have all had issues. Not sure if those issues were caused by incompatibility or just user error, but the Bionix ROM's are designed specifically for the Vibrant, so flash them on other devices at your own risk.

If you want an "all stock" look, my best suggestion would be to ODIN back to stock. Most of what makes the Bionix ROM what it is is the tweaks and modifications Bionix has made to the framework and look of the ROM, if you revert the looks all back to stock, you are likely just removing half the benefits of running his ROM. I could be wrong though, I LOVE the Bionix ROM, so I'm biased.

I haven't used the ext2 lag fix (I don't use lag fixes with Bionix ROM's, they are already too fast for me to warrant it) however, you can get a Terminal program off the market and I believe could do the same procedure via that. I am not 100% sure though.

I'm not quite sure what you are asking here? Are you wondering if there will be a fix for hardware locked Vibrants (not allowing you into recovery or download mode via hardware buttons)? If so, there is already a MOD in the forums for it, I used it on my wife's hardware locked Vibrant and it worked like nobodies business. If you are saying your clockwork mod recovery is booting you into stock recovery, than you're likely missing the update.zip on your sd card that tells it to boot into Clockwork Recovery instead.

^ +1 Everyone needs to understand that battery issues are a VERY relevant term. My battery lasts around 12 hours under moderate use. I think that is great considering what I use my phone for and what apps I have running. That being said, my wife was running a stock vibrant up until yesterday :D , I asked her if she thought she had good battery life BEFORE I flashed Bionix on her phone...her response? "**** no. The battery sucks on these phones." FROM STOCK! I guarantee she will see an improvement in battery life now that Bionix is loaded on her phone. Quit complaining about battery life here in the forums and learn to troubleshoot battery drain's on your own, it has nothing to do with this ROM, but has everything to do with the PHONE you are using, either that, or simply come to grips with the fact that Samsung shafted us all in the battery department. (although I really have no complaints about my battery life).
[Vibrant Android Development] EB91:
If that happens just click "reinstall packages" and clockwork recovery will open up. I ran into the same problem
[Vibrant Android Development] soloecho7:
Thanks for the reply yeah clockwork is rebooting me into stock recovery its never done this before with any other bionix roms and I'm pretty sure I have seen something about it before I was just curious if there would be a fix for it.

sent from New Year Zero
[Vibrant Android Development] soloecho7:
Eb91 thanks man ill give that a shot

sent from New Year Zero
[Vibrant Android Development] moonfire711:
Not everything is about you. My issues are not with your posts. It's with posts like the post you first made. You obviously knew you were *****ing/whining, or you wouldn't have said so. Actions speak louder than words. Saying you respect the dev, but assuming his rom or the way he built it is killing your battery, is not respecting the dev as far as I see it. There are plenty of people who have explained that it's more likely the apps or widgets you are using, or even the network you are on, that are probably killing your battery.

Overall, my other replies to your posts were more general and not so personal. Don't get so offended. I have given way more help than I have asked for on here. Or at least I've tried to. For your sake, "I'll move along" and let you have the last word if you want.
[Vibrant Android Development] moonfire711:
Yeah, that happened to me and I found the same solution. It should work for you.
[Vibrant Android Development] soloecho7:
Yep worked like charm its been awhile since I've had to use stock recovery sorry for the dumbass question when I first got this phone I used stock several times just been awhile. Thanks for the help guys.

sent from New Year Zero
[Vibrant Android Development] EB91:
It boggles my mind how samsung or other software companies don't have guys like sombionix on their team. Seems like the guys who get paid put out worse roms than the ones who don't . Obviously no one cared to push this phone to its fullest potential upon release.
[Vibrant Android Development] soloecho7:
Totally agree as long as som and team are devolping I wont be useing Sammy's releases. I came from a G1 which I bought day 1 and as soon as cyanogen came out I started running his roms and never looked back

sent from New Year Zero
[Vibrant Android Development] EB91:
Yeah same here. I used to anticipate the release of cyanogen on the vibrant but since the bionix roms I can honestly care less
[Vibrant Android Development] ardchoille:
+1

One of the first things I did after buying this phone was search for a ROM. I had a g1 and remember that ROM devs can do more than the manufacturer can.
[Vibrant Android Development] soloecho7:
Yeah I was waiting for cm to release something that's why it took me till 1.4 to try bionix now I hooked I still have my G1 and its still running cm6 that wife's useing it but Im stuck on bionix he just seems to care about his roms more than others which is why atleast in my eyes his roms are better than others

sent from New Year Zero
[Vibrant Android Development] murse:
This is my first time using Bionix. Fast, stable; awesome. Thanks for all the work you put into it.
[Vibrant Android Development] EB91:
Yeah because he actually uses a vibrant. Cyanogen tries to be a multi-phone software so its obviously a lot harder to fix bugs and what not especially in the amount of time sombionix had been taking. I like the exclusiveness of this rom for the vibrant. Keeps it fresh up to date and pretty much flawless
[Vibrant Android Development] soloecho7:
Again totally agree

sent from New Year Zero
[Vibrant Android Development] Klyentel:
will there be a froyo bionix?
[Vibrant Android Development] Dragoth12:
Almost a guarantee. Just gotta wait for Sammy to release it so Som has a solid base to work with.
[Vibrant Android Development] flipper2006:
I know what im doing, and im having really bad battery issues, i want to go back to 1.8, but i dont remember (or how to find it) docs on what changed from 1.9 to 1.8 to make sure i dont go back to problem issues, i remember the media was generating 100's of blanks images in one of the them but i dont remember if it was 1.6 or 1.7. I'm sure Somb is looking at the battery issue but this is a trial and error issue. Could someone repost the changes from 1.7 to 1.8. I just need to get this battery under control.. Losing 5% / hour now. very few apps loaded on phone.
[Vibrant Android Development] Fedburin:
Sounds like you are using an IPhone ;).
[Vibrant Android Development] Paging Dr B:
Serious? I'm glad that you have a magic battery meter that only shows a 1% decrease on standby. I didn't state how long my stock battery life lasted did I? What if I said that my stock battery lasted a week? Would you say that bionix would run a week and a day? People complained about the same thing when the G1 came out. "This battery sucks". But most didn't realize that the first few days that they had the phone they were using it nonstop with the stock rom and then blame the stock rom for their battery issues, when in fact their battery was being drained because they couldnt put their phone down. It's the same placebo effect going on here. LIke I said,

i don't doubt

there's a slight battery increase from certain processes not running, and from an undervolted non overclocked cpu, but what most of these guys are posting if nonsense. Your battery meter might show 99% for a full hour, then make a 5 minute phone call and watch it drop to 84%. Friggin noobs.
[Vibrant Android Development] atlaswingpasaway:
what do you mean 3/4 discharges, like when it turns off auto, turn it on again and wait til it turns off auto again, 3/4 times more?
[Vibrant Android Development] Dragoth12:
I have to laugh at this post. You are complaining that your battery life sucks, yet you say you lose 5% per hour.....20 hours on one charge is pretty damn good if you ask me. I don't get near that much, I pull in maybe 12 hours on a single charge. Don't see why you are complaining about battery life.
[Vibrant Android Development] eunkipark92:
Calm down it looks like ur getting mad rofl. I read your first sentence and stopped reading it. Its too God dam long Rofl.not worth reading it
[Vibrant Android Development] flipper2006:
But that is 5% loss without touch phone. If I was using it, then it's a different story.

Because i did much better, much, with the previous builds (1.7 - 1.8). We get spoiled ya know.

lol.
[Vibrant Android Development] n2ishun:
Well, dunno what I'm doing wrong but I cannot in any way install this rom.

I'm using ROM manager and have 3 SD cards at hand.

Put the zip in the root and then let rom manager reboot me into clockwork.

It tells me (every time) that the file is inaccessable, no matter which sd card I use or what I rename the file to (tried update.zip).

About 30 tries later....**** it, not worth it unless someone knows a quick fix.

Yes, I even tried the "reinstall packages" mode.
[Vibrant Android Development] GTOJim:
It goes in internal card not the external SD chip.
[Vibrant Android Development] Dragoth12:
^ +1

Yeah, clockwork mod recovery can't access files on the external sd card. You need to have it on your Internal phone storage (Internal SD card). As a rule of thumb, if someone tells you to put something on your sd card, 99% of the time they are referring to the INTERNAL phone storage, and not the actual removable MicroSD Card.
[Vibrant Android Development] ardchoille:
Don't rename it to update.zip, that will clash with the clockwork package.
[Vibrant Android Development] harabinger66:
Anyone else getting results like this with ji2 flashed over 1.91 ?
[Vibrant Android Development] stephenj37826:
Well you need to put the rom on the phones memory not the external sd card. Clockwork can only load zip files on phones "internal" sd card
[Vibrant Android Development] thehighwaysong:
Regarding the battery reconditioning: after you drain the battery to death, is it necessary to leave it turned off when you plug it back on the charger? Or is it safe to turn it back on?
[Vibrant Android Development] ardchoille:
Draining the battery to death gives the phone the low end of the meter.. charging the phone while it's off gives the phone the high end of the meter when you turn the phone back on - this is all part of the calibration process, the phone "learns" the proper high and low ends of the meter.

From my experience testing calibration methods, the best method is to leave the phone off while charging during the calibration process.
[Vibrant Android Development] Tynen:
Battery life has been crap.
[Vibrant Android Development] Dragoth12:
You forgot the important part of your pointless statement. I fixed it though.
[Vibrant Android Development] EB91:
No one appreciates ****. I wouldn't be surprised if sombionix cut everyone off from his roms. The guy works his ass off so a bunch of people who shouldn't be modding their phone in the first place can complain about nonsense
[Vibrant Android Development] Kubernetes:
No, drain the battery and charge it to full. Repeat 3 times. After that you can do partial charges.
[Vibrant Android Development] ebullient:
Re: orientation issues. Are any of you with this issue using Voodoo? I finally flashed to 1.9.1 and got the disabled accelerometer, when Voodoo is disabled it works.

In any case, the way I was able to fix it was to manually wipe everything while booted into clockwork recovery, then flash. Some little bit of something from a previous flash seems to interfere with the accelerometer when you change the filesystem.
[Vibrant Android Development] SkOrPn:
Last night guys when I got home I had 74% left on my battery meter. I had to do a double take and triple take just to make sure my eyes was seeing that right. And thats after 13 hours of use out on the road, lol.... Just amazing...

Guess Im stuck on 1.8 and JI6 modem for a long while. Does anyone know if I do a nandroid backup of my current setup will it also preserve my current awesome battery stamina? The reason I ask is because I can not sit here and watch rom after rom go by without flashing them to see how they work/look etc, but at the end of the day I will want my amazing current setup back, or at least by the time I have to go back to work Tuesday morning... lol
[Vibrant Android Development] martin0641:
My Google Reader informs me that Froyo for the SGS has been released to the Nordic countries. The time is nigh...

http://getandroidstuff.com/galaxy-android-22-official-froyo-update-begins/
[Vibrant Android Development] Cal-El:
These tidings were fortold a fortnight past. Alas, only for the i9000 but my hopes are renewed. :rolleyes:
[Vibrant Android Development] Argusi:
If you nandroid, make sure you disable Voodoo, of course. Keep a flashable copy of the JI6 modem and the kernel you are using. The new ROM you flash may replace one and/or the other and nandroid won't restore them.

So, if you want to Nandroid back, flash the appropriate radio and kernel if needed, after the Nandroid restore. Just be really careful with Voodoo. That should get you back to where you're at.
[Vibrant Android Development] biggiep:
My battery life is really strange. I've reconditioned the phone and made an effort not to really use it to see how fast the battery goes down during standby. The phone was charged to "100%" and after unplugging, immediately dropped to 97%. It stayed at 97% for at least 3 hours, and I was ecstatic, until it started dropping after that, and quickly! Went to sleep, woke up 9 hours later and the phone dropped to 68%. Three hours after that, the phone is now at 55%. WTF? :confused:
[Vibrant Android Development] ardchoille:
Even in standby your phone still uses power.. even moreso if you have anything that is polling a server for information like facebook/twitter/weather/other apps or widgets. Check the "Battery life" link in my sig for more.
[Vibrant Android Development] Foobyte:
Awesome job! I've had been running 1.6 and had serious battery issues. Like 50% drainage during 8 hrs of standby and nonstop reboots while listening to music.

Just installed 1.91 and so far everything seems to be running stable. No issues whatsoever, except for the fact that I can't sync with Kies but this has been a problem ever since I started using custom ROMs. Syncing works with stock ROMs however.

That's ok though, as a work-around I imported my contacts into Google and synced that way, works for me...

Will continue to monitor for issues and battery life but the way it looks right now everything is quick, stable and in working order.

Just one little request. I demand the phone number of the chick which greets me during power up. <3 =)
[Vibrant Android Development] SkOrPn:
Ahh yes point well taken. I forgot that the nandroid does not preserve the kernel or modem. Guess Im not trying the new rom after all.... I just don't believe that flashing said kernel and rom is what gave me the amazing battery. I think its the process of how I got there that somehow did it, which would be to much work to follow precisely just to satisfy my curiosity with the new rom...

Thanks for the reminder though... :)
[Vibrant Android Development] SkOrPn:
Sorry, shes been sleeping in my bed for the past week or so.... you cant have her.... ;)
[Vibrant Android Development] Foobyte:
So, I take it you don't have any siblings? Because you obviously never learned how to share. ;-)

Just had another reboot while listening to music after enabling Voodoo. Disabled Voodoo just now and I hope it solves the problem. :(
[Vibrant Android Development] creator2456:
It might not be the Voodoo part causing it. Just like how some phones can't handle the OC in JACs/KK kernel, some can't take the UV as well.

You can try JACs 1.0 release as I think it has less drastic UV than 1.1.
[Vibrant Android Development] Foobyte:
Yeah, I heard about not all phones handling the OC Kernels. I was afraid mine would be one of those, especially after buying SetCPU. ;-)

I'm into song 3 now and no reboot yet. Usually I hardly make it to the 2nd song. Will continue to monitor and report back but it does seem like Voodoo is causing the issue on my end.
[Vibrant Android Development] lqaddict:
My battery was getting killed with JI6 modem on 1.9.1, I updated the modem to JI2, so far it seems to hold charge a lot better.

I live in a well covered area, so going with JI2 seems a better option in this situation, will report if there any issues.
[Vibrant Android Development] moonfire711:
Over all, it seems like most of these posts are about battery life, and not any other bugs. I think that should be a tribute to the awesome work Som has done for us all in such a short time.
[Vibrant Android Development] unclesnoop:
Hey Dragoth,

Thanks for replying bro :)

I just reread my question and i want to reword it a little, what i wanted to say is when i put my phone into charging it turns itself off and then starts charging (as in when your phone is off) and it gets stuck in this cycle. So instead of the battery bar filling up normally, it gets stuck and keeps repeating itself. I then restored a backup i made using rom manager hoping the problem would go away but its still there!

I agree with you, flashing roms made for a different version of the galaxy is definitely glitchy. I learnt it the hard way unfortunately haha
[Vibrant Android Development] Foobyte:
Just to follow up. I've been listening to at least 10 songs now without any reboot. Still running the OC kernel with SetCPU at 200/1200. Disabling Voodoo fixed the problem for me.

Next up is reconditioning of the battery.