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[Desire General] ninjakettle:
Goldcard vs Unrevoked

So i'm fed up waiting for Tmob to release their updates and after reading many many threads on rooting i'm now actually eager to try out a few ROMs.

I've rooted the phone with Unrevoked 3.2, downloaded Titanium and Rom manager and have a bunch of ROMS downloaded too ready to flash.

However, before i pull the trigger, i'm still unsure (after all my reading) if i need a GoldCard or not?

If i want to return the phone to Tmob for any reason. can i now simply run the appropriate RUU to reset the phone - or does this require a goldcard?

Answers greatly appreciated. I really want to give this a go tonight.

Cheers.

Tmob Branded Desire

Hboot - 0.75

Build 1.15.110.11

Firmware 2.1-update1
[Desire General] Daras79:
I still don't have any update in my unbranded phone. What the f*** ? HTC remove from theirs servers ? Any information ?
[Desire General] EddyOS:
Servers are apparently on the blink, you can do it manually here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=778852
[Desire General] Lothaen:
Got bored of waiting for HTC's servers and applying patch manually now too
[Desire General] mcgon1979:
These steps worked for me to manually apply it

1. Download the official firmware update.

2. Copy the file to your microSD card and name it update.zip (newb warning: not update.zip.zip)

3. Power off your phone.

4. Hold down the VOLUME DOWN button and power it back on.

5. The phone will now search for files like PB00IMG.zip, etc. This is normal. Scroll down to recovery and press the POWER button.

6. When you see the /!\ symbol, press the POWER button and the Volume Up button at the same time. You should be presented with a menu and one of the options should be "Apply sdcard:update.zip".

7. Use the trackball to navigate to "apply sdcard:update.zip" and select it.

8. When you see "Install from sdcard complete", select "reboot system now".

Via Sebaztian at xda Via Nickedynick over at Vodafone forums.
[Desire General] sheik_yerbouti:
I just received the update this morning. The update went smoothly and I had no software related issues afterwards. I didn't lose any contacts, emails or other content. If you want, you can export your contacts to your SD card from the People's app. That way, you'll have a backup of it.
[Desire General] adek:
I think that we need to wait. Something wrong was with this update. Few days ago i had infomation about update but I was on edge connection. I wanted to wait 1 day, I went back home and tried to update my device on wifi network... and there was no update.

In this situation I think you shoudn't try to update your devices manually.

I think there was something wrong and they moved it back.

I'm waiting for next official realese.
[Desire General] Daras79:
On HTC site we have still info about new OTA available...
[Desire General] Lothaen:
Yeah the OTA update available is on the HTC site, and when emailing HTC they said there is no problem just that the servers are busy and only limited slots are available - if they said there was an issue with the update then I would have been in the same boat - but someone already posted that only people with a non-official firmware seemed to have had problems with it - I updated mine (although only two hours ago) manually and had no issues so far :)
[Desire General] smudgelab:
Still nowt for me on ulocked & unbranded, grrr.
[Desire General] lorrebreaker:
Updating ota right now. First try and i got the "device is upto date" message then tried again straight away & its now updating.
[Desire General] hd2biker:
I've just got the update too.

I've a generic phone

Update went through fine
[Desire General] Daras79:
Yes, I confirm. We got update
[Desire General] smudgelab:
Yup, all done here too :D. Now I want a Desire HD though :p
[Desire General] Joshhudsy:
i have recived the notification for the update but dont want to do it yet because i have debranded from t-mobile uk and i dont know if this update will cause any issues on a debranded phone,

anyone who debranded from t-mobile uk tried it yet?
[Desire General] alastor2004:
Just make sure you have your goldcard in and you should be alright.
[Desire General] flightposite:
I have debranded mine and installed the update just now.
[Desire General] iLHaNroID:
FOTA is available now.. (sweden)
[Desire General] Joshhudsy:
did it work all good ?

and did you have to make a new goldcard opposed to the one you used to debrand from 2.1?
[Desire General] Wyall:
I've got a debranded Desire (T-Mobile Germany) with root und HBOOT 0.80. Can I install that update simply over the Settings Menu or what's the way I have to go to keep HBOOT und Root etc?
[Desire General] SkinBobUk:
I just updated a orange debreanded desire using the gold card I made for it yonks ago to debrand and update to 2.2 from 2.1.

All went lovely!

Although it did take quite a while to find the apps on the sd card when swapped back from the gold card to the normal card.
[Desire General] Joshhudsy:
Okay thanks i will try this later or tomorrow just hope all goes well :)

oh.. just one more thing is wifi working?
[Desire General] aindow:
I also have an Orange Desire. I have upgraded to the latest OTA and the WiFi works fine, just make sure to use your gold card to do the update and everything will be just fine.
[Desire General] ortonnorth:
Debranded installation failed.

- No WiFi after update (WiFi - Error)
[Desire General] Joshhudsy:
did you have your goldcard in??
[Desire General] ortonnorth:
No. What should I do now?
[Desire General] Joshhudsy:
i belive that you need to re flash the rom through recovery or run a previous versions ruu

WITH

the goldcard, someone correct me if i am incorrect :)

....you must remember to always run all updates whether manual or OTA or manual with the goldcard in you can take it out once the update is completed then there should be no problemo! ;)
[Desire General] aindow:
There is a roll back tool in the developer section which will downgrade your phone to a unbranded euro version of 2.1. Simply run the tool and it will get your WiFi back and debrand the phone in one go, then simply run the OTA update to get your phone up to date with the most up to date froyo. REMEMBER, USE THE GOLD CARD FOR ALL UPDATES!
[Desire General] ortonnorth:
Thank you for yout help.

Where I could get the recovery rom? I'm sure that I haven't got it. Do I need to stick it on the SD card and run recovery from boot loader?
[Desire General] Joshhudsy:
well said!:p
[Desire General] Joshhudsy:
yes search the forums if you need a guide :)
[Desire General] ortonnorth:
Thanks a lot mate. I'll have look tomorrow.
[Desire General] aindow:
It's a pretty simple guide to follow, it can be found towards the top of the developers forum. Can't give a link to the topic as I am on my desire. Good luck :-)
[Desire General] vinh.le:
Can I just reapply the update with gold card to fix wifi? Or a hard reset will do?
[Desire General] Joshhudsy:
You will have to apply a new Rom with goldcard
[Desire General] Josh9216:
Unable to install this update on a rooted Desire on 2.2. I rooted it using unrevoked.

I've tried it OTA and when it tries to install, it gets aborted. Followed a post in this thread to download it and copy it onto SD but it still gets aborted. Can't figure out why. :/
[Desire General] ninjakettle:
You inserted your goldcard for the update right?
[Desire General] Josh9216:
I've never made a gold card. I used unrevoked and then put 2.2 on.
[Desire General] makedoc:
Neither do I, but this seems to be the easy way to keep your system and data intact without wiping your system. I never used a Gold Card either to root my phone but only the Unrevoked.

I can confirm that the Gold Card does allow you to update to the latest OTA. Do not forget before you update when in unrevoked recovery to toggle the signature otherwise you will not be able to flash. You need also at least 25Mb available on your phone internal memory.

Good Luck

After OTA update you loose the root and have to do it again using the unrevoked. If you get an error with 3.21 version use the 3.2, works like a charm.
[Desire General] ortonnorth:
FYI - To fix unsuccessful OTA update (No WiFi) I have to downgrade HBOOT from 0.92 to 0.80 and then reflash device to 2.1. After that the latest 2.2 OTA update went absolutely fine with Gold Card in. :D I'm a happy man again. :D
[Desire General] ljesh:
Anyone has an RUU with this (latest) firmware?
[Desire General] Joshhudsy:
so your update to 2.10.405.2 went all good with no problems (wifi etc) with goldcard in?
[Desire General] MichelN:
I am new to all of this, the update arrived +/- 2 days ago in our country but here is a question.....how can i save my current rom file ??? before i want to flash it with a custom rom whas do i need to do ???? This is my first android phone and i don't wan't to kill it after 3 weeks :D
[Desire General] noTHINGface:
I updated the latest OTA update on my debranded Vodafone UK Desire. Unfortunately I lost the original goldcard due to sd card failure so made another at work today using the original goldcard image. However, applying the OTA update was unsuccessful, I lost my wifi (thus the goldcard wasn't correct).

I created the goldcard again and I ran the downgrade posted here and can confirm that this worked, I'm back at a 2.1 stock rom with working wifi. I'm now running the OTA update to 2.2 using the same goldcard (after deleting the PB99IMG.zip from root of the sd card).

So far so good (its just updating now).

Thank you to @teppic74, really appreciate what your work on this, got me out of a jam.
[Desire General] Joshhudsy:
the link dosnt work can you post it by changing http:// to hxxp://

thanks
[Desire General] Joshhudsy:
does this update change the radio ?

and can it simlock a locked debranded phone?
[Desire General] noTHINGface:
Sorry chap, not sure what you mean, I didn't post any link in my post?

Just wanted to point out to Vodafone UK, debranded users that this worked for me to recover from a missing/lost goldcard upgrade to the most recent OTA update.
[Desire General] bridgstfer:
Hi All - ive searched around for anyone with a similar problem but cant find anything.

Yesterday I got the notification of this upgrade so I downloaded it over 3G and set it off installing. When it resets itself and you see the black update progress bar it gets to 1/3 of the way and the phone reboots and starts up normally. I put in my PIN and unclock swipe and im presented with the update screen (install now/install later) sceen. I tried update now a couple more times and the same thing happened. Then I got annoyed and said update later and as it was cancelling the update I could just about (for a millisecond) see a notification window behind the install one headed "Update Error" but could make out any text.

The phone has been fine ever since and says im on software number 2.09.405.8 - it is unrooted and unbranded. Currently using simfree on o2 UK network. Should i leave it or am i doing something wrong?

Thanks for your advice.

Bridgstfer
[Desire General] stevep999:
gold card

i used a spare 2gB card for my gold card, can I copy the files from this to my 8gB card I leave in phone so gold card always in place ? ?
[Desire General] oursoul:
Thank gods I read this thread before carrying on with the update (phone was low on batt), I'd forgotten to use my goldcard (orange debranded) but lucky for me the phone refused to update on low batt !phew!

[edit]

update complete, first thing I notice is the 'quietly brilliant' sound seems even quieter again.
[Desire General] bridgstfer:
Your a legend - that was it - update successful (although apparently not worth it :-) )
[Desire General] Geeba:
Google goggles works again for me now.... it was constantly crashing prior to this update.... :)
[Desire General] supasye:
My reception is pants since the update.
[Desire General] Ed-UK:
Unbranded unrooted Desire with the wifi snag post OTA update

Hi Eddy (and everyone else too)

I got the notification last night that the update was available, so I waited until I was at home, downloaded it over wifi and set about installing it, all went well until I today when I realised I was getting the constant wifi error.

My phone is an unbranded Desire, unrooted, supplied running 2.2, only received a couple of weeks ago as an insurance replacement for my original Desire with a broken screen :eek:

Can I just manually reapply the update as you've suggested and linked to at http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=778852? Or will this not work for me, as being unbranded from the start and unrooted I don't have a goldcard? - at the moment don't want to go that way.

Some numbers off the phone:

Model: HTC Desire A8181

Android Ver.: 2.2

Baseband Ver.: 32.43.00.32U_5.09.00.20

Kernel Ver.: 2.6.32.15-gf9c0527 htc-kernel@and18-2 #1

Build: 2.10.405.2 CL226611 release-keys

Software No.: 2.10.405.2

Also... can you tell me if this is an SLCD screen? I guess it is as it's a new phone, unlike my early-ish previous one.

Cheers folks,

Ed
[Desire General] Ed-UK:
Still no joy after manual update

:(Tried reapplying the update manually, appears to have updated ok, but still hve the wifi error and no working wifi available :(

...wonders whether this fault is why htc have pulled the update?
[Desire General] elitistphoenix:
Does unrevoked work with this new OTA update?
[Desire General] chichoko:
It does.. or so i've heard and read many times till now.. couldnt test it myself cause of drivers issues on my pc >.
[Desire General] Ed-UK:
Have just spoken to HTC and they are aware of this, they said they've had a few other people report the same thing. They did tell me that my 'unbranded' mobile sent by insurers as a replacement is a T-Mobile Germany model originally.

They told me that they will escalate the issue, if it's hardware related they should have a solution in a day or so, if it's a software issue (which I believe it is!) and they have to re-write the update it may take 'a few weeks' - which as this has made my phone practically useless as the mobile network keeps dropping out - is not very helpful!
[Desire General] owziee:
Reception definitely sucks after this update... Also when the f*** are they going to fix aac++ again???
[Desire General] kureng:
I just update yesterday via 3G with goldcard inside since this is originally branded t-mobile, so I flash stock WWE and update to froyo.

So far the wifi works, but I think 3g usb tethering kinds sucks, because browsing from PC very slow but from phone ok. Anyone having the same issue?
[Desire General] EddyOS:
Seems the radio hasn't updated, which is probably the issue. Give this a blast:

Download this:

http://fotadl.htc.com/OTA_Bravo_HTC_EU_2.10.405.2-2.09.405.8_releaseol2djq7rqarka2ka.zip

rename it update.zip (not update.zip.zip) and copy it to the root of your SD card

Turn the phone off, hold volume down and press power to get to HBOOT. Select 'Recovery' and when you get to the red ! press volume up and power and then select 'apply SD:update.zip' from the menu. Follow the instructions and it should work.
[Desire General] EddyOS:
Seeing as you're the only person on here complaining I'd say never...just use MP3
[Desire General] Jamoflaw:
Reapplying the update like this sorted the problem for me. I also created a Goldcard (whatever the hell that does) and had it in at the same time, so cant say which one helped most but defo worth a shot!
[Desire General] elitistphoenix:
I tried it and it got into a boot loop. Unrevoked said "waiting for root" or something similar. I had to end up pulling the battery, it booted again fine but no root.
[Desire General] Ed-UK:
Hi again Eddy, I tried manually forcing the update again as you suggest above, it looks like the update installs alright, from the boot screen/loader I get the following details:

Radio-5.09.00.20

Jul 23 2010,16:46:44

but I still have the wifi issue :(
[Desire General] Ed-UK:
Sent my Desire back to HTC for them to sort out the software issue after discussing it on the phone with them, dispatched 27/28th September, having spoken to them today it's due back on 12th October.

Not particularly chuffed at having to send it away to rectify a fault introduced by their software update, but hopefully it'll work again now!
[Desire General] EddyOS:
That was still the wrong radio, it should have been the one in my signature if correctly flashed. Going by your signature did you have a Desire on the T-Mobile FW originally? If so, you need to have a gold card when debranding and all future OTA updates
[Desire General] Ed-UK:
I originally had a T-Mobile branded handset which got broken and replaced by my home insurance. The handset I received as a replacement I originally thought was unbranded. After I had the problem with the OTA update not working properly I contacted HTC about the snag, gave them the serial number and IMEI and they said it was a T-Mobile Germany handset - which would explain why almost all the wording on the box it came in was German!

I've not debranded or unlocked the handset, so I don't think I should have needed to create a goldcard to carry the update successfully. I'll wait and see how things are when it comes back (allegedly) next week.
[Desire General] EddyOS:
If it's unbranded, e.g. on an x.xx.405.x ROM out the box, then it's a generic WWE Desire and the ROM should've updated. If it was on ANY other ROM version out the box it would've been a branded one
[Desire General] Ed-UK:
I'm not sure what software version it was originally on out of the box, I know it was on Froyo/2.2 when it was supplied to me and it notified me of the OTA update without me doing anything to it.
[Desire General] EddyOS:
Then I've no idea why it didn't work. Would've been easier to just get the RUU and flash it again from scratch!!
[Desire General] Ed-UK:
After the OTA update failed I did download the update manually using your link and go through the process you suggested but without creating a goldcard - as I was using the original software, but it still didn't sort the Radio/wi-fi issue, hence me resorting to sending it back to HTC for them to sort out.

I do find it interesting that they told me a number of people had the same problem as me with non-unlocked/de-branded handsets, I feel the need to have a grumble at them about how the problem with their update has resulted in me being without my phone for 2 weeks, will have to see what I can get together and try to find an effective person to send it to - ideas on a virtual postcard please!
[Desire General] EddyOS:
That was still just the OTA, I mean the FULL 140MB RUU file - it reinstall the whole ROM from scratch
[Desire General] Ed-UK:
Ah, sorry, got you. I did think about it for a bit, but as the phone's now in HTC's hands I can't do much! Hopefully it'll work when it returns....
[Desire General] saayinla:
Hi All, I have tmobile desire its been debranded unlocked and rooted using unrevoked method, I have froyo but have not tried to update to the OTA update due to the wifi isssue... any work round yet. cheers
[Desire General] ste1164:
I think the WiFi issue only occurs if you update a branded phone without a goldcard.
[Desire General] ZaPP187:
Exactly! That is the reason! It has been posted about 2354872 times!
[Desire General] Ed-UK:
I'm afraid that's not completely the case. I updated a branded phone which hadn't been fiddled with in any way and it stuffed the wi-fi, still waiting for it to come back from htc.
[Desire General] tykhung:
After upgraded, my wifi is error. I can't enable the wifi

My Desire info:

Baseband: 32.43.00.32U_5.09.00.20

Kernel Version: 2.6.32.15-gf9c0527

htc-kernel@and18.2#1

Build number: 2.10.405.2.CL226611 release-keys

Software number: 2.10.405.2

Browser version: WebKit 3.1

Does anyone have the same problem as me? My Desire is not rooted
[Desire General] saayinla:
Thanks for this, have been wary of applying the update..I ll just pass for now and wait for the Desire HD ............
[Desire General] Ed-UK:
That sounds like the problem I have too, I have ended up sending my phone back to htc for them to sort out after talking to their customer service people.
[Desire General] hamdir:
if you suffer from wifi issues after upgrade it means your phone is branded you need to have a goldcard while applying the update
[Desire General] saayinla:
What if your phone was rooted/unbranded wihtout the goldcard i.e using unrevoked method...? Do you still need a gold card. I ve never user one for all the rom flashing I have done so far..
[Desire General] EddyOS:
your issue is because the radio didn't update properly
[Desire General] hamdir:
yes unrelated, if you use the official WWE stock updates you need a gold card, otherwise you will need to use or wait for your carrier update or simply flash pre-rooted stock rom like this one http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=773997
[Desire General] maschenazi:
Had the same problem. Take a look here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=787437
[Desire General] TrueTenacity:
Is there a way to update without RUU, because I'm on Win 7 and i can get it as far as rebooting the phone and it just sits there...

Ahhh... Not to worry, tried it on another machine and it worked fine :-D
[Desire General] kalfou:
Might be unrelated a bit, but what is going to happen when new updates/?gingerbread? Come out for the desire and you have unbranded? Can u just update like normal or do u have to go on some journey to middle f*Ing earth to play around with goldcard etc...

Also for new roms, can u just root and install without bricking?
[Desire General] saayinla:
Hi All, I haven't updated my phone with the OTA after I applied generic Fro-yo. Reason being that a lot of people had problem with their phones with the wifi and some people had to send their devices back to HTC to get it fixed. Can someone please confirm if this is still the case or not.

cheers
[Desire General] EddyOS:
If your Desire is an unbranded handset then there will be no issues. If it was a T-Mobile handset and you've debranded it then you'll need your gold card in the phone when you update
[Desire General] saayinla:
Thanks for the reply, I do have a tmobile device which is unlocked and unbranded. However when I rooted my desire, I used the Unrevoked method which required no Gold card. So seems I have to still make the gold card now ?
[Desire General] EddyOS:
No, if you were truely unbranded when you got the handset then you just need to flash the OTA
[Desire General] ukmacca84:
Gingerbread remove root?

Hi guys, this may be a bit off topic but when gingerbread comes out and we update OTA, will it remove root, and all the things unrevoked implemented?

I have a generic unbranded desire which I got last month and it came with 2.2 out of the box etc.

I rooted it (using stock rom atm), and haven't had any probs really with it, but apart from wondering about what i wrote above, can I just unroot it by flashing the official rom again?

Is the latest one available? I have been looking on here for the answers to this but cant really seem to find it. I know there is a page with the RUU's?! on them that I use. Just want to know if its the latest 2.2 WWE one
[Desire General] EddyOS:
You can get 2.10.405.2 from shipped-roms.com which is the latest stock 2.2 ROM...and yes, an OTA will remove root

Here it is:

http://shipped-roms.com/download.ph...00.32U_5.09.05.30_2_release_142828_signed.exe
[Desire General] vukis:
do you really believe that there will be official gingerbread update from htc?

I really doubt it.
[Desire General] ukmacca84:
Cheers matey, appreciate that :)

Dunno just putting it out there in case they did. Now I know.
[Desire General] EddyOS:
Gingerbread will be released, just maybe not for the Desire (officially)
[Desire General] ste1164:
If anyone is trying to get this update or any OTA updates on the phone by checking for new software. You wont receive it as HTC OTA servers are offline for a bit.
[Desire General] ukmacca84:
Unroot wont work..

Guys, I followed unlockr and downloaded the RUU, installed HTC sync etc, but every time I go to run it, the usb disconnects... and I cant run it.

Any ideas?

Cheers,

D

p.s I've tried different usb ports, but it keeps sticking on logging into the RUU screen and I lose connectivity to the PC with a 171 error message. Win 7 64 bit btw (not sure if that makes a difference)