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[Droid Incredible General] Mark0266:
Hey all,

I must say, I took my HTC Incredible back to stock 2.1 then had OTA installed (from verizon). And I must say, What are these people thinking????. SkyRaider & CM are much better. They need to take some lesions from you guys. Battery Life sucks now.. I hope it is possible it go back to stock 2.1 and start over with rooting..

-Mark
[Droid Incredible General] KGBxxx:
It is possible. Check unrevokes thread.

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Unrevoked Root and Sucked-off

2.0.5 Baseband

SkyRaider 3.0 Vanilla

#1 King Bad F*cking **** Kernel OC to 1.13
[Droid Incredible General] Casbah:
I think Unrevoked are even are able to root stock 2. 2 now

Sent from DInc running Virtuous ROM
[Droid Incredible General] kappo9000:
So true. ALL these devs do a FAR FAR better job than the stock one does. It could be because that is how a corporate shop runs (err too far on the side caution) or it could be because there is a difference in doing something for money and doing it because you like it.
[Droid Incredible General] Mark0266:
Yes they do. And I think HTC or Motorola should contact them. But one of my favorite saying from a movie is "Human knowledge belongs to the world". At least most open source people aren't out to plant bugs. But sometimes you still have to be worried.

-Mark
[Droid Incredible General] rmaccamr:
This is just a testament to the fact that people are born with gifts and are hardly developed by being taught. Which is why I constantly express my gratitude to the developers we have working for themselves, yet (mostly) willing to share their creation for the betterment of others.
[Droid Incredible General] tats_06:
I completely agree!!! Definitely sticking to staying ROOTED on ANY android device! The benefits are priceless. ;)
[Captivate Accessories] krazydonutboy:
I just had a tinkering revelation and ended up making something in 30 seconds that i have been looking for for weeks.

Originally inspired by the car dock epoplive made as well as khaaan on Overclockers UK forums, I cut out the intermediary step of finding a case that the phone can snap in and out of easily. I ordered a suction cup mount for a Garmin Nuvi 205 off ebay for $4:

cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270626403250&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_2572wt_1137

When I got it this afternoon, I took a look at the clip that is meant to hold the Garmin unit and thought that it looked quite close to the dimensions of the Captivate. Holding the phone in it, it was about 1/2" - 3/4" too wide. So I simply took a lighter, slowly and gently heated up the corners of the clip, and bent them slightly inwards. Out of luck, my guesswork bending resulted in a perfect fit. I added some thin sticky-back foam strips to make the fit more secure, and that's it!

The phone snaps in with purpose and is held in place even as I flail about testing it. It looks super clean, works well, was easy to make and cost a total of $4.

(The pictures were taken with my old E71x; when I find the charger for my point-and-shoot, I can get some better quality pictures up.)
[Captivate Accessories] krazydonutboy:
Follow-up videos

For a little more detail and viewing angles:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcB3DQ8JKM0]

and my flail test, if any of you doubt how secure this is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igZ9sPxPG2k

Enjoy! I am happy to hear any criticism, answer and questions, etc.!
[Captivate Accessories] imb951:
Nice! I'm doing one too!
[Captivate Accessories] stanggman75:
Great mount.

I think you did a great job. I've been looking for one for a while. What if you have a silicon case? Would it still lock?

If so, you wouldn't need the foam.
[Captivate Accessories] krazydonutboy:
That was one of my first thoughts. I just returned my bodyglove case, but it seems like it would work just as well, you will just need to bend the clip just a little bit less to compensate. One thing I should tell you, you may need to modify the clip in such a way that the ridges that hold the device are further *out* to compensate for the added depth of a silicon case too.
[Captivate Accessories] Asori:
Nice! Good job.
[Captivate Accessories] epoplive:
Nice! I may have to go get a new car clip to try this. It's kind of funny, because the first thing I thought about the clip was 'Boy, this sure is close to the size of the phone, if only it was just a bit smaller'.

Does the phone stay in when you rotate it?
[Captivate Accessories] krazydonutboy:
Yes! I just drive for about a half hour on back roads with the phone in portrait and it didn't move one bit. Did you see my "flail test" video?
[Captivate Accessories] joeybear23:
awesome!

Exactly what I was looking for.
[Captivate Accessories] jayrod88:
I'm interested to see if someone gets this working with the bodyglove silicone case...
[Captivate Accessories] BigJayDogg3:
If i can find a Garmin dock for an acceptable price on Amazon or in person, then ill give this a try.

Great work guy.
[Captivate Accessories] superdog404:
Car Mount

If you are lazy like me have a look on Ebay. There is 1 for $7.99 shipped with battery charger.
[Captivate Accessories] krazydonutboy:
So is ebay out of the question for you? There are plenty for sub-$3 on there.

I looked at Staples a couple weeks ago and they have just the ball joint and suction cup (no actual clip) for I think $14.99 - outrageous.
[Captivate Accessories] dc41:
Awesome! I just order two. Thanks for the tip!
[Captivate Accessories] penguin6:
Does this scratch the sides at all from being clipped in and out so often or did you put foam on the clips where the phone would touch as well?
[Captivate Accessories] Krad:
just ordered one... think i will pop off the ball joint and drill a screw through the center and attach to my pivoting blackberry 9700 proclipusa mount in my car. That way i got the pivot and it is mounted and not on the glass.

will update with pictures... will probably still order the proclip when it is released...
[Captivate Accessories] BigJayDogg3:
Surprisingly enough, it is out of the question. I've no credit card. With amazon i can use a coinstar to create gift cards. And in person i can use cash or a check.
[Captivate Accessories] krazydonutboy:
No foam on the clips. The plastic is smooth, since it is where the gps would clip in. I don't see any trace of damage in the phone (and believe me, I would notice. Still babying this phone)
[Captivate Accessories] krazydonutboy:
If you have a bank account, papal can use that.
[Captivate Accessories] krazydonutboy:
I dont fully understand what you mean. Mounted on what glass?

Alternatively, i can be patient and wait for the promised pictures.
[Captivate Accessories] Krad:
This is a windshield mount? meaning a suction cup on the windshield(glass).

I have a proclip mount in my car that is installed next to my radio, orginally for my blackberry 9700. I will drill a hole through this mount clip in the center for the install. The proclip has a ball joint on it already so i can go portait or landscape.

I also ordered last night this...

http://www.amazon.com/Body-Glove-Sn...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1284550564&sr=8-1

Wondering if i will even have to bend the clip with this add on bumper.

I never order a case like this.. but it is really awesome on the moto droid. The material is kinda sticky and it has an amazing grip for me.

I am also currently using the HTC medium size landscape holster purchased from best buy.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/HTC+-+L...lack/8222327.p?id=1166840037625&skuId=8222327

it is a perfect fit for the captivate... and will have alittle room for the bumper case.

If i keep the bumper case, it wont fit on the proclip if they ever release that.. So i may not order it depending on how this mount performs.
[Captivate Accessories] krazydonutboy:
Reading back, what you said the first time makes perfect sense, I just didn't get it for whatever reason. Thanks.
[Captivate Accessories] cappysw10:
Got two on the way.....if somebody doesn't beat me to it.
[Captivate Accessories] startngate:
I am still playing around with it, but with the Body Glove case on, it's hard to get the plastic to bend in such a way that the top clip actually locks the Captivate into place. I've gotten it close enough that in normal driving it may not come out, but think I will keep trying to tweak it to see if I can get it to hold just a bit better. I have no doubt I could get it to work if I was willing to subject the phone to the heat of the plastic and mold it around the case, but not sure I want to chance that.

Update ... best advice I have is don't strive for perfection. In continuing to play with it, I made things worse initially and it took me quite a while to correct things. Do a small bend on the bottom (larger) part of the mount and leave the top side alone if you have a Body Glove Case.

The Garmin holder has two smaller 'clips' that actually snap into cutouts on the GPS device. I wanted those two clips to catch the front edge of the Captivate.

The small bend at the bottom (along the line below) will allow the captivate to get caught by the bottom clip and will align things along the back of the phone.

By just doing that one bend, the clip on the top nearly catches the front edge of the Captivate. It really did hold fairly well but the phone would release itself with a little pressure at the top. Hindsight being 20/20, I think I would have stopped there. For most general driving around I don't believe the phone would have released itself, but I had this need to try to get the top clip to catch fully on the front edge of the phone, so I kept playing.

Essentially, you are trying to follow the contour of the phone in the top side as well, but it's much more difficult because of how it's shaped. As you can see in the pics above, I kind of made a mess of the top.

I did finally get there, although it does look a bit rough. Of course when the phone is in place, you can't see it ... :)

Bottom line is it will work with the Body Glove Case on. You also won't need to add any foam strips as the case takes care of filling the gap nicely. For the record, I used the genuine Garmin car mount which came with my 250 GPS. YMMV when using the aftermarket versions on eBay, although from the pics they look the same.

Thanks to the OP for the idea. I had been using the Garmin mount and was securing the phone with a rubber band previously. This is much cleaner. I would suggest to all trying this that you order more than one of these in case your project goes awry. Also, be careful not to heat the plastic too much or it will lose shape.
[Captivate Accessories] tnayrbj:
like this

here you go

http://www.amazon.com/Garmin-010-10936-00-Suction-Cup-Mount/dp/B000NW12C0/ref=pd_cp_e_2_img

done
[Captivate Accessories] krazydonutboy:
great pics, great writeup. thanks for taking my idea the next step.

just work on your molten plastic molding skills! ;)

if anyone has a heatgun, that would probably be a much easier alternative, if you can set the temperature to just where the plastic starts to get soft. lacking a heatgun, i had originally tried boiling water to get it plyable, but that wasn't quite hot enough. lighter did the trick for me. i was just sure to heat slowly so the plastic wouldnt burn or boil. my joints cam out nice and smooth.
[Captivate Accessories] krazydonutboy:
The one issue i had with my cheap ebay one is that the ball joint was very tight. a drop of mineral oil did the trick, articulates smooth as butter now.

Other than that, the plastic is strong, no discernible quality difference from oem. And they should be identical dimensions since the clip has to fit the same GPS units.
[Captivate Accessories] t-readyroc:
Just ordered from the OP's eBay link. Will post results using the Amzer argyle case. Would be PERFECT if it does...
[Captivate Accessories] epoplive:
Looking very nice guys. I'm thinking I may pick up some more clips to try a couple of things. I'd really love to see the clips not sticking over the edge of the phone if possible.

I also want to see what I can do about making a mount that has the power and audio cable built in so I can just slide the phone into it. It's really too bad they beveled the top area, it seems like it's makes things really difficult.
[Captivate Accessories] dc41:
I just got mine from eBay/Hong Kong. Heating and bending went perfectly using my wife's crème brulée torch.

The problem I have is with the suction cup mount. Neither suction cup (I bought two) will hold for more than 30 seconds or so whether the phone is mounted or not. I've cleaned each pad with alcohol and tried it on a perfectly smooth surface.

Anyone else have these problems? Any solutions work for you? I noticed the official garmin mount comes with an "adhesive dashboard disc". Mine didn't come with those, but if it won't stay upright on a perfectly smooth desk, I doubt they would help. This might just be the price I pay for buying them for a buck each. :(
[Captivate Accessories] joeybear23:
You could try 3M...
[Captivate Accessories] cappysw10:
Sweet!

I got mine today also. Bought two, good to have a backup. ;)

Heating with lighter went smooth. Haven't as yet tried the mounting part yet. Taking a trip tomorrow. Will post back how it goes.

Added: I've been on a few trips and the mount works perfectly. Thanks to the OP!
[Captivate Accessories] reinbeau:
Try rubbing the suction cup on your forehead - seriously. This usually works for me. The oils on your skin will help make the suction really 'stick'.
[Captivate Accessories] dc41:
Okay, problem solved. I mounted it on a piece of plexiglass so I could see the underside of the rubber foot. There were some tiny imperfections. Now it's sealing like a champ.
[Captivate Accessories] krazydonutboy:
Glad to hear you got it working. I didn't have any problem with my suction cup. I guess it's good that I went with the premium $2 model.

As for the dashboard mounting disc, it is a piece off plastic that is sticky on one side so you can stick it on your dashboard (or other non-smooth surface) and suction the mount to the smooth topside of the disc.

I want to get one, but I have been hesitant to but one because I know one of my friends has one that they don't need, I just need to keep asking.
[Captivate Accessories] penguin6:
Just wanted to say thank you DonutBoy for bringing our attention to that particular mount on eBay. So far, I'm enjoying the car mount, but I'm really diggin' the bike mount I got from that seller even more! Makes using RunKeeper and listening to music so much better. Thanks again man!
[Captivate Accessories] krazydonutboy:
Bad news...my cheap eBay GPS mount is falling apart, but not in any way I was expecting.

Inside the socket for the ball joint of the clip are some plastic pieces. i assume they are there to be somewhat flexible and give tension/support when snapped onto the ball joint. So far I have had one section of plastic crumble and fall out and bad another one look like if was smudged off somehow. Looks like what would happen if you ran your finger over a little ball of play doh on a table. Now the clip barely stays in the ball when the phone's in it.

I will contact the eBay seller to see if they can do anything for me. Otherwise, I will look into getting a real Garmin clip.
[Captivate Accessories] dc41:
Thought I would share my own little variation of the OP's great idea.

Instead of covering the back with adhesive backed rubber, I cut two small strips from adhesive backed velcro. I threw away the hook (hard,stiff) sides and stuck the two loop (soft) sides as shown in the attached pic. They perform perfectly and look a little more "stock" in my opinion.

You can also see a "dashboard mounting disk" in the shot.

HTH someone. Big thanks to krazydonutboy (OP) for the idea!
[Captivate Accessories] t-readyroc:
Just got mine & works like a champ w/the phone still in the Amzer case. I'll try to post photos this evening. Hope mine doesn't break like OP's did...
[Captivate Accessories] mobius911:
Same thing happened to me. I decided to try again and I have ordered a replacement clip (another knock-off). This time I plan to warm it first to expand/soften it before I stick in the ball. Will post back on how that goes.
[Captivate Accessories] Shovelhead84:
So I went with your genius idea. Here is the setup I did in my car.

I have a USB cable and "3.5mm to RCA" that run to the head unit. I actually cut a small hole in the bottom of a dash tray and used a rubber grommet to keep the wires safe and sealed. When the phone is not plugged in the wires tuck nicely away in the small tray. When I turn the phone upright (90 degrees) it can still get a good view as a dash cam.

For those curious as to why I have a 3.5mm - My pioneer head unit (F900BT) has nearly every feature EXCEPT A2DP! I still have BT calling and contacts features but cannot use it for stereo.
[Captivate Accessories] krazydonutboy:
That looks very slick, I like it! And what car is that? Right hand drive it looks like. What other countries have the Captivate?

Sent from my Captivate; please excuse any brevity or errors.
[Captivate Accessories] krazydonutboy:
So where did you get your dashboard disc? Just from a GPS unit? I have actually never owned a real GPS; for as long as I have "needed" one, I have had a phone that could handle it.

The Velcro really does improve on the design. Thank you and all the other posters for helping improve my prototype!

Sent from my Captivate; please excuse any brevity or errors.
[Captivate Accessories] Shovelhead84:
Thanks. It's just a US version Scion XB. The scion dash display is in the middle of the dash. Not located directly in front of the steering wheel. Looks deceptive. Couple more shots to describe. Used my Captivate so it's not in the shot. You can see how the wires tuck away though.
[Captivate Accessories] borguesian:
Worked perfect with my heat gun and patience! thanks for the idea!
[Captivate Accessories] dc41:
eBay... were else? :)
[Captivate Accessories] krazydonutboy:
Of course. My brother in law finally pulled through and found his unused disc for me, literally the day after my clip broke. I epoxied it in place for a windshield mount for now. Still haven't gotten around to ordering/finding a better quality one.
[Captivate Accessories] dc41:
Here are the ones I bought. So far they've stayed stuck in some very hot weather.
[Captivate Accessories] perium:
Thanks for the idea OP. It was surprisingly easy to bend into place.
[Captivate Accessories] Peaster111:
Excellant... post. Simple and effective. Thanks for sharing. I bought mount for the Nuvi 205. Just like the OP suggested... I add a little heat then some felt padding.. viola perfect fit! Very nice. :)
[Captivate Accessories] opform249:
I had the same problem with mine but I thought it was because it was a cheap $10 Wallmart univeral car mount. I have cup that sticks to the window and then the suction things sticks to that. I said the heck with it and superglued the two pieces together and it hold pretty good. I don't need to move mounts though from car to car.
[Captivate Accessories] roadrash7:
Vent mount from gomadic.com. 25 bucks. Some people will of course hate the idea of a vent mount. But i love it. Works great and is right in reach dont have to stretch for it and dont have to stick it to the friggin windshield
[Captivate Accessories] SpenceJonas:
^ that looks pretty nice, I was actually looking for a vent mounted one. How sturdy is it? Does it hold the phone nice and snug?
[Captivate Accessories] roadrash7:
Very sturdy and very snug. Holds the phone so snug i use it on my motorcycle. Pics in "perfect bike mount" thread.
[Captivate Accessories] soccer1:
Just wanted to say THANK YOU op. This was a great idea. I got a garmin mount off amazon (not ebay as per your warning) adjusted it with a cigarette lighter, and it works perfectly, like it was made for it. And perfectly secure.

Thank you!!
[Captivate Accessories] jiannichan:
I did the same thing. I heated up the clips and now it holds my phone pretty nicely. I've had it for a few weeks now and I don't notice any marks on the side of the phone from the clips. My car has been in the shop for a week now and I've picked up the BodyGlove case. I am guessing I'd have to reheat the clips to compensate for the case correct? I won't have my car back for a couple more days.
[Captivate Accessories] schweigster:
Thanks for the awesome idea. Less than $4 on ebay. I didn't have a cigarette lighter so I just used the stove. The phone fits perfectly in there and doesn't move at all.
[Captivate Accessories] bsc7080xsc:
Okay... so I bought the Garmin setup from Amazon. Did the heat it up and bend thing and with the Body Glove case it solid. Problem is that the ball won't stay in. Keeps popping out. Beyond epoxy, any suggestions ?
[Captivate Accessories] Dungeon47:
I've just been planning on mounting the holster that comes with the Otterbox Defender to my dash, then using that.
[Captivate Accessories] Shovelhead84:
Ok, so the cup on the back of the clip keeps popping off of the ball mount?

1. How did you heat the clip? If you over heated it or tried to heat the entire clip you may have warped the cup.

If this is the case then determine in which way the cup is warped and try to work it back into shape by reheating it. You could probably determine which way it needs to be bent based on what direction of swivel has the least/most friction. In other words: with the phone in a horizontal position, push the cup onto the ball. Swivel left/right, then up/down. If the mount swivels with less friction up/down then bring the top/bottom of the cup closer together. If it swivels with less friction left to right then bring the sides closer together.

2. Is the ball propperly formed? Did you try it before modding? Is there any extra plastic towards the front that would cause the cup not to fully seat over the ball? Maybe a bit of sandpaper over the front of the ball (NOT THE SIDES) would help it get a better seat.

3. Final idea for actually modding it: Place the clip onto the mount. Drill a small hole passing through the ball and cup from the left side to the right side. Insert a straightened paperclip. Bend paperclip ends.
[Captivate Accessories] bsc7080xsc:
UPDATE 25-NOV-2010

I ended up sanding the end down so it was slightly flat faced. That allowed it seat a bit better. I have been using it like that since then and it has been working great. Not sure it will be secure enough for track racing, but I think I will buy another one and epoxy the the ball into place. The suction cup seems to be very secure

It popped out before the mod, but I figured I could work that issue afterwards. I under estimated how stubborn it would be. It acts like it doesn't want to seat all the way down into the cup. Its very easy to pull out and any movement to the side simply pops it out. I would have expected it to snap securely and have been more of a pain to remove. I wouldn't dare try the shake test in its present form.

Basically I need to make this durable enough to hold on during autocross racing which involves a speeds of 30mph and up and turns where there are considerable amount of G-force being exerted. I may just have to find the optimal position and epoxy the ball to the cup after all.

Before I do that I will take a look at option #2 however
[Captivate Accessories] Shovelhead84:
I hope the suggestion helps. If you finally find a way to make it work you should update us incase someone else runs into the problem. Good Luck!
[Captivate Accessories] fatttire:
Anyone figure something out with audio over USB
[Captivate Accessories] Disgustipated:
This looks perfect. I need to mount my phone to the vent or to my windshield pillar on the left hand side but need something to hold it secure. Any cheaper alternatives to the vent mount you posted?

I've got an S2000 so I know what you mean when it comes to wanting a mount that can handle high G-force during turns. Can you do a test run with your mount and see how it holds up? Thanks.

Edit: Anyone tried this mount off of ebay? Looks unwieldy but I like how adjustable it appears to be.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Car-Mount-Holde...ccessories&hash=item33618fe53f#ht_4032wt_1139
[Captivate Accessories] fooldog01:
I tried this out and it works beautifully with the Body Glove. Great tip!