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[Legend General] logoo:
I love my legend but i have to admit that even the iPhone 3gs is smoother. With my legend i have lags in landscape keyboard mode and the scrolling and the opening of the sms app are really not as smooth as the iPhone. Saying that legend is better than iPhone 4 is not very objective imo....

That being said i hope froyo will fix that :)
[Legend General] Chaotick:
I compared the 3GS with iOS 4.1 ( or something) with my Legend stock rom ( other based on 2.2 or nightly biulds ARE MUCH faster IMHO) and to be honest in iP the animations tend to be smoother in some cases. The stock browser with the same wi-fi connection was an area where my Legend dominated. As for iP4...compared with my Legend and the iP was smoother and faster but not the performance you would expect form a 1ghz A4 CPU in compersiom with legends 600 mhz . The newest iP felt like it was held back a bit.
[Legend General] BlaY0:
And you'll be able to update on a 3 day basis :rolleyes:

Even better, your phone will be so blazingly fast, that you'll have to install an anti-virus software to slow it down :D
[Legend General] CrazyPeter:
Oh dear...

Microsoft says lots of things, but almost everything they say is false... Does anyone actualyl care about Win7Mobile?
[Legend General] tnakir:
Could it be any slower than this? Btw Win7Mo will have one centralized development, not like this, every manufacturer has its own policy, development yada yada... Microsoft is known for its monthly updates on desktop products. I have no reason not to believe that the updates on mobile platform will be regular like the ones on PC platform.

I have many friends who have Win7Mob and say that it is great. I have no reason not to believe them.
[Legend General] acid74:
Guys,why not admitting that HTC has left Legend users aside,and comparing Legend with iphone 4 is nonsense.
[Legend General] Chaotick:
They left us ...kicked our heads in ....abandoned us....ohhh poor us Legend users. xDDD

Come on do you really believe so??
[Legend General] Paulb_:
FROYO IS UPDATING!

At this moments reports are coming on Twitter and on Dutch tweakers that the Froyo update is happening on Vodafone in Holland and Germany.
[Legend General] Chaotick:
Paulb_=> Any links to support this theory?? As I recall the HTC said the first Legends to update where the unbranded ones so how it's possible for Vodafone ones to be first??
[Legend General] slovenec88:
Here you go! http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=840400 According to Dexter, tonight is the night (or maybe a week, month..) :D
[Legend General] Chaotick:
My phone isn't so optimistic about the updates :). Nevertheless good news :).
[Legend General] warriorofice:
Yeah at the end we have Froyo.

I hope we´ll have a rom soon
[Legend General] Ran86:
I think so too. Which is sorta lame from VF, since I'm a VF-customer but I don't have a branded VF-Legend. Talk about bonin' over your own customers. :facepalm:

But hey, I'm still happy they're finally updating this stuff. :)
[Legend General] mehmet1978:
Hi guys,

Do you think that legend froyo was ready for weeks but Vodafone past an exclusivity contract with HTC and they were not ready to launch it; and that's why HTC could'nt give us more accurate delay about froyo? But now that Vodafone starts the ota update we should be confident with our brandless legend. I hope so.
[Legend General] bullchicken:
I'm not entirely sure what this means, but Mark Moons just tweeted this:

markmoons @ilanykupers klopt Inderdaad. We zijn begonnen met uitrollen. We gaan niemand overslaan, hoor, mensen! #bevrorenyoghurtvoorlegendes

Mark Moons @ ilanykupers true indeed. We started rolling. We're going to skip one, you know, people! # Frozen yogurt for legends
[Legend General] nutunited:
Granted my Dutch is not brilliant, but I think what that actually means is that they're not going to leave anyone out with the update... Could be wrong.

Swyped from my HTC Legend
[Legend General] lessirey:
htc's response on the delay

from a comment on their facebook page

HTC Hey guys, we're trying to be as open as possible about the process given how many people have been asking for information about this update. As we tried to state carefully, the update rolls out in different ways given how quickly an operator will approve and release our software. As you're seeing here, at least one operator has moved extremely quickly to get this in your hands. We see this as a very good thing. We're working hard to get the update to everyone regardless of open channel or operator...

I still dont understand why its so hard for them to release the original unbranded update before a customized branded version can be rolled out !!
[Legend General] janarp:
guys who cares that VF users get update... im happy that it come to my unbranded Legend... i thin we see this, this week...=)
[Legend General] randy_khoo:
Still believes that this has something to do with the Desire HD/Z.

The timing of this release is proven.

And i bet the current Desire can run the new htc sense.com, but will be updated once the desire z and HD saturates the market.

All this done to strip every penny from your pockets!
[Legend General] jennan88:
Agree, it's a mistake to think a phone company cares about customer satisfaction over profit share.

Still, HTC makes very nice phones
[Legend General] jennan88:
Im gonna miss this thread.

Goodbye, Froyo in september.
[Legend General] driftcat:
HTC India says the froyo is coming to unbranded handsets next week.no mention of HTC.sense.com but said they r working on everything to increase the productivity of the HTC legend
[Legend General] Corra:
Now those htc defenders who said it was already confirmed will learn WHAT an official statement is. Until they confirm it on website there's absolutely nothing confirmed...
[Legend General] Corra:
If someone changed idea

www.ipetitions.com/petition/froyolegend/

Yes maybe you only waste 15 seconds by signing. But I think it's always better than stay here and say that we will have froyo and we should only wait. When reached 1000 signs and when out of Q3 I will email htc and will say them that they lost 1000 customers with their stupid update policy
[Legend General] nethopper:
You guys are so entertaining, like small children waiting for the christmas presents. They also think they deserve it... right at a specific minute...

We all bought a nearly perfect product and I don't expect HTC to update my HTC to 2.2 without it being tested thoroughly. Fact is, HTC did not promise that they will deliver 2.2 when I bought the phone. So please.... stop complaining. First, consider if you really need all these "high value" apps that fill up your memory and second, if you look for a toy instead of a robust working phone, you may as well root your device and have some fun with cooked ROMs.

Again, this post is just for entertainment purpose so that you have something to think about while waiting for Froyo...
[Legend General] maxonite:
Interesting post on the london twitter account 1 hour ago.

@htc: Beautiful morning in London. Feels like a good day for news...
[Legend General] CrWEE:
They probably mean the htc meetup today in London. Possibly some new devices... I heard that it's a public event so someone could go and ask about froyo on legend :) .
[Legend General] TheLegendaryJay:
Watching the new HTC Sense, I think I may have to get a refund on LPP and BW and hope they release 2.2 with the new Sense UI ! It looks very good.
[Legend General] bullchicken:
I straight up asked them on twitter, not expecting a response though
[Legend General] mtrax:
well with all these new phones from HTC you must wonder how they are going to support them all,
[Legend General] zabaknilesh:
Lost hope now..I dont think @HTC will now provide Froyo to Legend....Even though they are proud of LEgend as they showed that on Screen in HTC London meetup displaying aluminium unibody structure...
[Legend General] Corra:
Lol do you really think it's taking so much to update to 2.2 because they're trying to make it perfect? The desire version was buggy and the latest 2.1 legend updates too, they're not trying to keep perfection, they're just too busy with desire hd etc.
[Legend General] jorgesalvador:
Indeed seeing as HTC is pooping out two new devices every other month I don't see how on Earth they could support them all ...

Not sure how this business model is sustainable as well...
[Legend General] Chaotick:
And the truth lies within HTC :). Come on guys stop these "guesses" or speculations. The fact of the matter is this that with each passing day we are getting closer to Froyo on HTC Legend.Inevitably.... :D

The petition on "Froyo for Legend" makes no sense for me because I didn't bought the previously mentioned Legend to sell it and substitute for a Android 2.2 device after 3 month just because the update isn't released fast enough. Money dosen't grow on trees - at least for me it does not :).This boycot seems more absurd for me because I cannoot imagine myself using another andro device no matter how good the spec are (introduce a better looking device than legend with better spec and we can negociate :P )
[Legend General] ananthm2k5:
I think you are confused. The petition is not about everyone leaving the legend and buying new devices. It's to send HTC a message that people expect full support when they buy a product.

And to people who say "HTC is not obliged to update the phone ... you already have what you paid for .. etc etc" .. just shut up. I expect HTC to give me an upgrade. And if they don't they will lose a customer (ie when I buy my next phone it won't be a HTC ) and get a lot of bad publicity in my social circle.
[Legend General] Skardy:
Even if they don't update to 2.2, I'm still waiting (2 MONTHS !!) a FUC***G fix to the bugs introduced by last update...

(sms problem + data not connecting as the phone always thinks that there is a wifi connected, even when wifi is turned off...)

That is POOR costumer service...
[Legend General] kleutscher:
Go buy a Nokia 3300 :)
[Legend General] pjhoughton1976:
HTC should either release 2. 2 or fix the bugs in 2. 1

And either way HTC should. Just be honest and confirm or deny the 2. 2 update with happen
[Legend General] kleutscher:
Htc NL tweeted in reaction to someone who asked if froyo was already available. They said froyo isn't availble atm but well inform you when its time!

This means well will get it but when they couldn't say.
[Legend General] Chaotick:
ananthm2k5 => I assure you I'm not confused....Hangover may be...but definatly not confused :).

Sooner or later the update will arrive...I'd rather it be less faulty because of earlier release..
[Legend General] arcadia2112:
Froyo

Yesterday I received an email from HTC Support in which they confirm the update to Froyo in the third quarter however they encountered some problems eventhough it will happen, the text is in

Beste

Eerdere berichten maakten bekend voor een update naar Froyo in het 3e kwartaal van 2010. Wanneer dit echter precies gaat gebeuren en of er vertragingen zijn bij deze update kan ik u niet zeggen sinds ik zelf niet over deze precieze informatie beschik. Wanneer Froyo beschikbaar wordt voor uw toestel wordt deze ook OTA aangeboden. Er zijn momenteel wat problemen gekend met de updateprocedure voor Android maar er wordt aan gewerkt om dit op te lossen. U hebt zowiezo de laatst mogelijke update up uw toestel geïnstalleerd.Dutch
[Legend General] TheLegendaryJay:
Maybe they're releasing the new Sense UI too ? :D (doubtful, but hey it would be as ossum as a possum if they did!)

I have full confidence in that they will release 2.2 for our Legends soon. Too bad the guy way back in this thread (maybe another?) was wrong when he said it would be available on the 15th Sept :D
[Legend General] ananthm2k5:
Translation ?
[Legend General] TheLegendaryJay:
Is it that hard to use babelfish? :rolleyes:

http://translate.google.co.uk/#

direct translations don't work well which is why he summarized it.
[Legend General] alexhtclegend:
Basically it says that froyo was originally supposed to come in q3, but he can't say if that'll still be the case because they've encountered some problems. What I find worrying is that HTC UK won't even confirm that froyo is coming at all on Legend.
[Legend General] pfak:
I wouldn't hold your hopes up about Froyo for the HTC Legend, HTC has already released a new Sense UI and many new phones.
[Legend General] Svala88:
It's not looking good for the poor Legend :(
[Legend General] zabaknilesh:
I think we all should remind HTC on sept 30 with MASS EMAILS from all asking to atleast answer 1) Whether Legend will get froyo 2) Revised date for Froyo (Not quarter)

Can anyone share email addresses for HTC to communicate with....we will collect all emails here...and then mail on 30 sep and post response here in this thread.

High time now...HTC Wake up...if you can develop htc sense 3.0 u can very well adapt froyo on legend!!!
[Legend General] whitetigerdk:
Get real.. Leave them alone.. the more we beg the more they laugh.. They only use same tactic as Apple.. Tgey keep their cards close.. It will come - It has already been announced.. Now you just wait until it is ready.. I'm so damn tired you guys having no patience.. Wait.. Or go get yourself another phone cause if you can't wait, you are not worthy enough to own "The Legend"
[Legend General] eddie66:
:D:D:D Damn ! i like your commend !!!
[Legend General] nomad4ever:
Hehe, lol! Agree!
[Legend General] slovenec88:
Maybe they are waiting for htcsense.com (backup&locate) technology and we will get that as well with froyo (optimist).
[Legend General] acid74:
Hope springs eternal:)
[Legend General] chuchu777:
I dont care anymore, because I am getting a Desire HD in october :D
[Legend General] Chaotick:
chuchu777 =>If you can afford to change phones so frequently.
[Legend General] dirkkuyken:
i do notice some speed advantages with the azure froyo rom but it isn't to say a must.

The official rom version of 2.... gives you a certain speed boost that should be enough for the phone...

I want a official froyo sense version 2 ... i do miss some of the sense features...

lucky that there was a HTC IME port... can't live without that ...

if you want a decent speed boost you should have gone for the desire... Btw why would you use your phone for gaming or other cpu-power needed apps anyway ?(its good for 5minutes, after that your being a serious asocial person so don't do it! )
[Legend General] whitetigerdk:
One impatient soul down (chuchu777).. A lot more to go... ;)
[Legend General] Chimeradog:
one and a half week to go and september ends.....really hope HTC could release froyo on legend soon...
[Legend General] whitetigerdk:
They newer said it would be released in Q3.. They only said they would START FROM Q3 releasing FroYo for Desire and Legend.. and so far they kept that promise..
[Legend General] Chaotick:
Today I've sent a e-mail to HTC Poland asking about the date of the Froyo release - maybe I'll get some new infomation ( however I would be very suprised if I'd get any really interesting information).
[Legend General] smartsreenath:
no hope .............today 19 sep..............

FOLLOW ME http://smartsreenath.blogspot.com/
[Legend General] logoo:
As far as i'm concerned i really don't care about froyo the legend is already perfect for me but they HAVE to fix quickly that damned bug of the SMS app (yes i don't really like handcent.. :D)
[Legend General] koenwillems:
i've sent an email to htc that i wanted to buy an htc legend and asked if it will have 2.2 and they replied:

When you buy the device now, the 2.2 update is set on the phone by default. Best regards Martine
[Legend General] lullesha:
NO WAI :O

i just jizzd my pants!
[Legend General] _Stranger:
Could you copy paste the email? (I'm dutch too)
[Legend General] krasenk:
I think that the HTC representative who answered to you made a huge mistake...

Have a look at http://www.htc.com/europe/product/legend/specification.html

"PLATFORM: Android™ 2.1 (Éclair) with HTC Sense™"

It is obvious that HTC support is very unreliable source! :D
[Legend General] koenwillems:
Beste KJJ Willems,

When you buy the device now, the 2.2 update is set on the phone by default. Best regards Martine

Je kunt een antwoord sturen op dit bericht of laten weten dat hiermee je vraag is beantwoord, door je aan te melden bij onze website ContactUs met je e-mailadres en het ticketnummer 10NLCW38NLA000460.

Met vriendelijke groet,

Martine

HTC

I've bougt the legend now and of course it's just android 2.1. I think she just made a mistake.
[Legend General] whitetigerdk:
Write back and tell them that you have been mislead by this person.. You have been promised 2.2 on the phone and that is what they have to give you then.. :-)
[Legend General] Kwen:
HTC China did say that their WildFire and Desire would ship with 2.2, but didn't mention the Legend (do they even sell them in China?)
[Legend General] koenwillems:
Dear koen willems,

yes you will get one. We send them out in a systematic order so unfortunally some people get them before others.

This is what i received when i asked then if the legend would get an update
[Legend General] krasenk:
It is true! Look at the link:

http://www.htc.com/cn/product/wildfire/specification.html

"Platform Android ™ 2.2, built-in HTC Sense ™"
[Legend General] Corra:
Seems that they haven't understood your question. They speak as it were an already available OTA.
[Legend General] Chaotick:
I've recieved and e-mail answer for HTC Poland regarding the update ("suprisingly" nothing new):

"thank you for asking about the HTC Legend Android 2.2 update. We are certain that the update will come out very soon.We do not have exact information when. Please check the www.htc.com/pl/ later for information regarding this matter.Hope we answered Your question."

The last sentance made me ROTFL to be brutally honest :).
[Legend General] maxonite:
Interesting choice of words.

'We are certain'

I hope that is true and is not an issue of lost in translation.
[Legend General] Chaotick:
I don't believe it....I think ( and this procedure is sometimes present in some of polish companies especially connected with mobile network operators ) that HTC Poland does not know anything in the matter but triest to a "keep costumer happy mode" without having any vital information...
[Legend General] TheLegendaryJay:
I had a spare 2 minutes so emailed HTC UK, I'll let you know what they say.

btw, it's not bothering me that much - I just think it's funny some people will sell their phone if an update doesn't appear soon.
[Legend General] _Stranger:
HTC promised 2.2 will come, but after the link from the Wildfire it's possible the wildfire will be updated first....

Sent from my Legend
[Legend General] Chaotick:
Also I don't care that much but I was wondering what HTC PL costumer service has to say considering this matter.
[Legend General] TheLegendaryJay:
Drum Roll please! :D

What I asked:

What they said:

Not a lot of help, eh? :D
[Legend General] nolook:
another really vague reply from htc:

I would be happy to assist you with getting information on your HTC Legend and the update schedule for it. We appreciate your interest in our software and future Updates. Due to marketing agreements with the North American we do not have information on if and when an update will be released. If a carrier request us publish this information you will hear first on our community and twitter broadcasts. However Tech support does not have access to this information.

Sincerely,

Jacqueline

HTC
[Legend General] Chaotick:
This seems simple: Until the main HQ of HTC will not make a statement concerning realease of the update no service will know anything which is disappointing. I don't think any HTC costumer service has any real solid information as far as the android 2.2 for legend and the date of release.
[Legend General] pfak:
Here is the message I received from HTC North America:
[Legend General] chuchu777:
Yes. I am ready to buy the Desire HD. :D
[Legend General] Chaotick:
chuchu777 => Desire HD or Ace is promising and if I was about to change the phone I certainly would consider it ( when it's out ).

The only thing which can push me to "change the legend for something else" is the possibility that this update will be released passed the Q2 next year ( i doubt it but there is always a chance that something can go THIS BAD :P).

Any whay I tend to change my mobile phones every year and a half so the xmas of 2011 would be a great time to change HTC Legend for a brand new device with android 3.0 :)
[Legend General] the_canuck:
"Due to marketing agreements with the North American carriers we do not have information"

to me, this is probably the silver lining on the huge cloud of non-information. if they can't talk about it due to contracts they have with the carriers, then it means that there's something to talk about. right?
[Legend General] ikdegek:
no froyo yet

Hi,

Just mailed HTC yesterday, answer is that they cannot tell IF there will be update for Legend en WHEN it will be.

"Bedankt voor uw email. Betreft: Legend update Ik kan u niet vertellen als deze update op de Legend word uitgebracht en wanneer dit zal zijn."

So, I stick with the Azure 1.01 Rom, works perfect for me, only issue is no FM radio, but I can live with that...

Regards, Ik.
[Legend General] rmrm300:
Yesterday I've sent a message to HTC Portugal asking whenever an oficial update to Froyo would be available. Accordingly: "...gentilmente informamos que a HTC irá disponibilizar esta actualização 2.2 (froyo) para o Legend, mas até ao presente momento não consta no nosso sistema uma data oficial para o lançamento da mesma. blá blá blá"

Translation:

"...we gently inform that HTC

is going

to release this 2.2 update (froyo) for the Legend however, until now we don't have an official release date in our systems.... bla bla bla"
[Legend General] Ciela:
This is the response I received from HTC Australia:

Dear Skye,

Thanks for contacting HTC. We appreciate your continuous support with HTC. In regards to your query, unfortunately we are unable to advice an approximate time-frame when Froyo will be released for HTC Legend. We are currently testing the new ROM. It will be released after all relevant tests have been completed. Please check the HTC website from time to time for updates. Should you encounter any difficulties or have any concerns regarding the information we have provided, please feel free to contact us again. You may give us a call at 1300 482 482. Our business hours are from 8:00 am to 8:00 pm SYDNEY Time, from Mondays to Saturdays and closed on Public Holidays. Have a nice day!

Sincerely,

Michelle

HTC​
[Legend General] mtrax:
yep this seems to a consistant msg from HTC, so its just a matter of when, but if they are already testing, then it should be weeks rather than months ...
[Legend General] Exanimus:
did u ask about if u will get just an update or did u ask specific if u will get Froyo?
[Legend General] koenwillems:
Is asked if I will get Froyo
[Legend General] Corra:
They know NOTHING at all about the froyo update. They have got obviously no confidential informations about it, it's a waste of time continuing to ask them when froyo will be released. You'll know for sure only when htc will post a twitter or official announcement on his site. As I told weeks ago when dozens of people told me that my petition was ridicolous as they already confirmed the update, there's nothing confirmed at all. Plus, the legend seems to be out of production, and in this case I think they will never release it.

If you're tired waiting, better you root your phone and install cyanogenmod 6 by Ali ba