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[Droid Eris Android Development] Amon_RA:
Awesome! Will try it out on my N1 :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] punk.kaos:
Im planning on adding it to the menu as well so its a bit more user friendly too, as soon as I get a moment.
[Droid Eris Android Development] lele5800:
any possibilities to port this in htc magic ?
[Droid Eris Android Development] ViiOLENT.HD//:
roms booted from my class 4 16 gb...

KaosFroyo

CelbFroyo

CyanogenTazz

xtrSense

xtrRom

All gave me no problems'
[Droid Eris Android Development] punk.kaos:
Wouldn't be too hard. Basically you'd need to change the SDK level in the build.prop and copy the bootfromsd script into the root of the recovery image.

It should work on basically any phone running Amon_RA's recovery and possibly ones that arn't.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Psicao:
That's work if i want use with XDANDROID on my Touch Diamond 2 ?
[Droid Eris Android Development] punk.kaos:
No, it'll only work on native android devices.
[Droid Eris Android Development] CTH-EVO:
@punk.kaos nice work.

I considered doing this the day I got my HTC-EVO(supersonic) 5 days ago.

Intended to place BSD and a hacked Next/Darwin (OS X mobile) I'm working on on it.

But had intended to use a modified version of Grub. While I'm not new to *NIX development, I am new to HTC development. What made you decide to build from scratch, as opposed to using Grub; which would already provide a menu?

Thanks again.

--Chris
[Droid Eris Android Development] punk.kaos:
Because it was far easier to kickstart the rom inside the already booted recovery environment than try and port the low level assembly in Grub to the ARM proc.

Ultimately Grub would be more flexible in booting things that are NOT android. But I'm not really that interested in running something other than the Linux kernel :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] codysoloman:
Wow amazing, this will make ROM development much faster and easier.
[Droid Eris Android Development] CTH-EVO:
That's what I was asking.

Thanks for taking the time to respond punk.kaos.

Much appreciated.

I think look into the Grub method just for "kicks".

If it's not too involved, I'll go for it. If I don't miss my guess,

the Grub method should work just as well for multiple Linux versions/ROM's as

for additional/other OS's.

Nice job on your project, and thanks again for responding! :)

--Chris
[Droid Eris Android Development] punk.kaos:
Yeah, Grub should let you boot basically anything that you can compile for ARM. Good luck! :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] grojas:
Hi,

This is simply AMAZING!!. I insist, smarthphones and tablets are the future's PC (like Star Trek predicted ;-)).

Any change to port this to Motorola Milestone? (GSM Droid). If you need a betatester to do this please let me know by PM. My Milestone is at your service.

Regards!!!, and keep the good work!!!
[Droid Eris Android Development] takato23:
this could work to fix a bricked phone in the future? like a vibrant?
[Droid Eris Android Development] punk.kaos:
At this point you still have to be able to get into recovery to use this.
[Droid Eris Android Development] HanSolo2012:
Im confused...

So as of right now the only way i can do this is to run the command from my command prompt?

^Found my answer just had to look a bit more

Has anyone tested dual booting the eris ps3freedom

they said it worked with the kaos 35.1v

^ still wondering about this :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] luismanson:
on milestone with openrecovery it just reboots, no idea/log on why this happens...in the last step /init&
[Droid Eris Android Development] punk.kaos:
Did you copy the init.rc from your rom to your SD card?
[Droid Eris Android Development] luismanson:
yeah, i did, but i dont have standar rom, i think i should take a vanilla one and try again. its a shame there is no log :(
[Droid Eris Android Development] punk.kaos:
Logcat will provide some output, though its not as good as it could be.

Also be sure that your recovery image's SDK version is high enough for the rom you're running(Eclair is SDK 7, Froyo is SDK 8)
[Droid Eris Android Development] CPCookieMan:
So... why dont you just create a zip file that moves the correct files for Kaos Froyo, say to your sd card. All the devs could make dual boot friendly rom files that you just had to flash to have a dual boot. :) Good thing is, I'm in the process of writing an applescript that would do the boot command for me when I ran the app.
[Droid Eris Android Development] punk.kaos:
Hey now there's an idea :) I'll see what I can do about that.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Samiam303:
Here's a thought I had, I apologize if it's been suggested before:

Koush's ROM Manager uses fakeflash on the Eris so that you can use ClockworkMod Recovery without flashing it over your recovery. This also lets ROM Manager pass commands into the recovery so that it boots straight into doing something. Could an app be developed to create a Multiboot GUI Menu that could then work with a fakeflashed recovery so you wouldn't have to change your installed recovery or even boot into it?

Note that I don't really know much about what fakeflash actually is, or much of anything about deving... I'm just going off of my empirical knowledge of what's going on.
[Droid Eris Android Development] xr4v3nx:
OMG *jizzes in pants*
[Droid Eris Android Development] hlaalu:
jesus dude, you are nuts, how do you figure this crap out? legend!
[Droid Eris Android Development] punk.kaos:
First I come up with an idea of what I want to do... Then I fail about 10k times until suddenly it DOESN'T fail ;)
[Droid Eris Android Development] joshw0000:
Kaos, I have a few questions/suggestions:

Could you provide the three needed files for some of us less technical users?

Can the original amon ra be re-installed if wanted? Chances of bricking?

You said that system.img should be 170 mb because thats the file size for amon ra to create a nandroid. Is it possible to modify amon ra to allow a larger file? Then we could make system.img as large as we wanted and have seemingly unlimited internal memory.

Once we've set up multiboot, is it possible to create/restore nands for the current rom and the sd card rom.
[Droid Eris Android Development] punk.kaos:
Yeah, you can make it as big as you want, having as much 'internal' memory as you can fit on the sdcard.

There's no modification of the image needed.
[Droid Eris Android Development] joshw0000:
I'm not sure what "it" means in your response. Amon ra or system.img? Either way, I don't know that it would add much or any performance increases. Perhaps with higher class cards?

Thanks for the follow up! I wont tie you up with Q&A. Looking forward to more awesome Eris development!
[Droid Eris Android Development] punk.kaos:
'it' being the system.img. The biggest advantage would be in porting roms that are too big to fit in internal memory.
[Droid Eris Android Development] joshw0000:
Gotcha. So other than changing image resolutions, is there any reason we wouldn't be able to directly boot roms from the sd for other devices (other than the hero)?
[Droid Eris Android Development] punk.kaos:
They may or may not be compatible with the Eris. the CDMA Hero's roms are about 90% compatible, most other devices are not.
[Droid Eris Android Development] joshw0000:
Ok, I guess we're still restrained by the capabilities of our hardware.
[Droid Eris Android Development] eris_evil:
'It' being the system.img. The biggest advantage would be in porting roms that are too big to fit in internal memory.-----------

Can anyone imagine what this might mean if they apply this multiboot to different platforms, just to throw this out there but if and when they come out with a 2.5 or any other variation of android that we can possibly run these versions from our so call discontinued phones sd card but then again we still be limited to our hardware restrictions but to still apply some of the main features from 2.5 or 3.0 is still a plus in my opinion.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Jolest:
This is my favorite quote of the day. :)

Lovely description of the software development process. A tip of the mouse to you sir!
[Droid Eris Android Development] Xmister:
I've made a boot menu in recovery upon this idea.

The complete explanation and specification with links to the source can be found here:

forum.samdroid.net/f9/multi-boot-system-recovery-2640/
[Droid Eris Android Development] Stonent:
Other than the proximity sensor, what else is different?

I like the idea of booting roms that would otherwise possibly brick the phone.

Just to see what happens.

I wonder if it would be possible to make a Grub rom that you could launch from Amon Ra that would then let you pick another OS?

Thought it would be fun just to see what would happen to try to boot WinMo on the eris, if anything. Would probably have to find another device that uses the same video hardware to even see anything.
[Droid Eris Android Development] mjgdroid:
List

Is it possible to save the files like init.rc in a folder like /sdcard/kaos.

Or put the files in folder /sdcard/cy.

and boot from one or the other how would i choose to boot from one or the other?
[Droid Eris Android Development] punk.kaos:
Currently it only allows you to have 1 rom on SD. It would probably be doable to add multiple though.
[Droid Eris Android Development] mjgdroid:
I got another question for ya is there a way to let amon recovery flash unsinged zips? I try to flash shadowrom and it says its error not signed.
[Droid Eris Android Development] punk.kaos:
Nope. Sign it with the Android test keys. Quick and easy solution :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] tbo-art:
Will this also be possible on HTC Tattoo?

Tbo-art
[Droid Eris Android Development] punk.kaos:
It should work on the Tattoo as well.
[Droid Eris Android Development] mjgdroid:
I tried, but I failed the deamon doesnt start sucessfully it says, idk if I dont have init.rc set up right any way you could post a link to a modified stock init.rc? or to kaosfroyo?

I get

mount: mounting /dev/block/loop0 on /system failed: Invalid argument

mount: mounting /dev/block/loop0 on /data failed: Invalid argument
[Droid Eris Android Development] Abrasher:
any risk of damaging phone with this BETA? I mean, i know oyu are "not responsible" just asking
[Droid Eris Android Development] punk.kaos:
No more than flashing any rom has the potential of damage.
[Droid Eris Android Development] UNCbassbone:
When I try to use mkfs to format the system.img to ext3 it says "system.img is not a block special device, proceed anyway (y/n)?" I also can't copy stuff into it (like the contents of a ROM).

Anyone know what the problem is? (Using Ubuntu 10.10)
[Droid Eris Android Development] Stonent:
"When I use DD to mkfs.ext3 "

????

Sounds like you've got something confused there.
[Droid Eris Android Development] UNCbassbone:
Yeah, sorry haha. I use dd to create the system.img, then I use mkfs to format it to ext3. I'll edit my post.
[Droid Eris Android Development] chessperado:
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[Droid Eris Android Development] UNCbassbone:
^say what?
[Droid Eris Android Development] martinstiago05:
punk.kaos, i really like this idea and understand the theory behind it but im not this advanced system files just yet but i want to try it is there any links you know of that explaing how to create these files and where to put them? from there with practice i will get it!
[Droid Eris Android Development] Thekn:
Does this work on any android device?
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] azazin:
Hi everyone,

Sorry I have taken a while to post back,

I have been working hard on my website

http://www.shoptaka.co.uk/

I hope you guys will visit the website, theres currently an offer for free UK shipping on all items. (only 4 items for sale atm :o)

Heres a coupon that will reduce price for customers on all products by 10%, just for you guys:

10OFFINTRO

Enjoy.

Kind Regards,

Azazin

Enjoy! Please post your feedback here after you recieve item ( if you buy one :) )

P.S. Everything is in stock in the UK so the delivery is faster!!
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] AllGamer:
hmmmmmm........ can i change my vote from Maybe to NO?

just a personal taste, i think the cuts holes are rather horrible, the mesh case korean style i like it better, or the gel skins, or the tough skins ones

i voted before seeing the picture
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] azazin:
Thanks for the feedback, it seems not many people are interested in these lol.

Would you be interested in something like this?

http://ukih.merchantrunglobal.com/I...03&MerchantID=4354&ImageID=801&DisplaySize=-1

http://ukih.merchantrunglobal.com/I...03&MerchantID=4354&ImageID=794&DisplaySize=-1

It would also be availible in lots of different colours.

Everyone please post on poll if you are interested in these, thanks.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Qazz~:
No Offence but the Korean version is way nicer with its soft touch and perfect cutouts/holes and that oh so sexy Gold Galaxy S emblem =)
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Croak:
That tacky ass gold Galaxy emblem (or the resulting indent that would be left after ripping it off and burying it deep in the trash, praying that nobody saw you touch it first) is the reason I took a pass on the mesh case.

Different strokes for different folks, indeed.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] AllGamer:
these ones are definitely way better choices, what other colours can you stock?
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] hanhav:
Same as this?
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] AllGamer:
it's all over ebay and local stores yeah
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] azazin:
Thanks for the feedback,

I take it you would be interested in buying the mesh cases without the ugly Galaxy emblem thing :D.

They will be in stock later this week :D.

Thanks for the feedback,

I will be selling these later this week in the following colours:

pink, yellow, orange, green, black, blue, purple, white.

Thanks :D

They are the same as those, but the colours look slightly off on those pictures from that seller, I will also be selling them in the colours listed above ^^

-----------------------------------

P.S. everyone, I will be listing them at a very similar price to the seller listed above and they will be in stock in the UK! (faster delivery). :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] dinfung:
i am using a hot pink version now, and loving it.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] filou75:
Pink is nice :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] AllGamer:
i'll like to see the actual colours on the cases when they arrive, i would be needing a new one soon, the old one is washing out

i'm too rough on my cases :p
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] azazin:
haha :D thanks for the feedback,

I will be stocking lots of other colours later this week:

pink, yellow, orange, green, black, blue, purple, white.

if your interested :)

ok, no problem, I will take some shots with the different colours when the stock arrives :).

Agreed! But yellow, orange, green, black, blue, purple and white are nice too! lol :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] dj_suca:
i have the black.. very cool nice fit on the phone..
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] rkantos:
Why won't anyone make a back cover that attaches to the orginal back cover connectors? Then the case would not make the phone thicker etc..:cool:
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] azazin:
I agree! I will be selling these later this week, but I am trying to get my hands on them :D

haha :D, thanks for the feedback :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] azazin:
The stock just arrived today, I will be posting pics and links on where to purchase soon! :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] azazin:
Lots of new pictures added in OP.

Will be posting on Ebay soon.

P.S. Sorry for some out of focus pictures, I still don't know how to work the camera 100%.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] azazin:
All colours are up for sale, added links to OP.

If anyone wants more pics of a specific colour just ask! (I know my camera skills are bad)
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] KLoNe1:
Have to admit, I'm a fan of the Gold Emblem :)

Would be nice if the text extruded a little more though.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] deepside7:
Still awaiting the ones that will replace the back cover by clipping into the slots for it.

Would definately be interested in those at the right price.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] azazin:
Will get them as soon as they become available for sale! :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] brunes:
Are these actual replacement backplates at a decent price or just more useless cases.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] azazin:
Sorry, they are only the cases, they are extremely good quality and very stylish though, I hope to get backplates soon!
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] rkantos:
Second this! :p
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] fcbarca17:
I am thinking of buying one of these. Look graeat. Idk about the quality for $1 though
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] azazin:
Hi everyone,

Sorry I have taken a while to post back,

I have been working hard on my website

http://www.shoptaka.co.uk/

I hope you guys will visit the website, theres currently an offer for free UK shipping on all items. (only 4 items for sale atm :o)

Heres a coupon that will reduce price for customers on all products by 10%, just for you guys:

10OFFINTRO

Enjoy.

Kind Regards,

Azazin
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vandelay007:
Has anyone else had a problem with handcent where it starts off handling mms fine, then it suddenly stops showing them unless you start a new text with someone who had sent an mms - it will show up there but after you hit send you can no longer see that message again...till you start a new text....weird...

Sent from my HTC Hero with Froyo...
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vandelay007:
*anyone?

Sent from my HTC Hero with Froyo...
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] debh945:
I noticed the same thing with certain contacts (not all) for SMS (I don't receive many/any MMS typically) using Handcent. I could only see if someone replied by attempting to compose another text to them, as the convo did not show up in the conversation list. I thought it had something to do with flashing the CM6 nightly on 9/7/10, as that is when the problem seemed to begin.

I ended up uninstallling Handcent and reinstalling (yeah, a PITA to re-create all my settings). It seems to have fixed the issues I had but again, I haven't tried MMS in several days.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vandelay007:
I think I am ready to give up on it...I liked it solely because you can stop your texts from scrolling on the task bar...from what I can tell, neither stock or chomp can do that...

Sent from my HTC Hero with Froyo...
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leadfoot9281:
only problems i have been having is if i send Mms to somebody without a android phone they only get a error message of somesort.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danaff37:
Hand cent works perfectly for me. I had one little hiccup, but it wasn't hand cent. Mms quit working completely. Just had to go to /data/data/com.telephony.blah blah and erase telephony.db then reboot and instant fix.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] msjr405:
The same thing happened to me a few times. I went into app > manage applications > handcent SMS > clear data.

Its sucks because you loose you custom colors setup (if you have them) but everything pops back up
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vandelay007:
Thanks...I will give it a try!

Sent from my HTC Hero with Froyo...
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vandelay007:
I just had to do this and it worked ...just incase anyone else has the same problem

Sent from my HTC Hero with Froyo...
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dumboguy03:
Incorrect section.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vandelay007:
Way to revive a dead thread lol
[Droid Incredible General] oturn:
I've tried replacing ADWLauncher using both Launcher2.apk, and Launcher42.apk, from these threads:

http://forum.cyanoge...ck-22-launcher/

http://forum.xda-dev...ad.php?t=766720

Both launchers work, but eventually they each become unresponsive when switching between home screens. When this happens, swiping between screens doesn't work properly. The screens require a slight press before they will move. Also, each screen requires slightly different press times.

I'm running the 09082010 nightly. This also occurred with 6.0.1 and 6.0.2.

Any suggestions as to why this is happening, and any resolution?

Thanks!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DroidGnome:
I've a strange question that might or might belong in the development thread, but figured since it's a question, I'll try here first.

I'm using a Stock DeOxed Rooted Rom on my EVO.

I recently installed a few more apps and saw this pesky little warning about low on space.

When I went into my "SystemPanel" app to see how much space was left exactly and noticed that my /data folder only had around 30megs out of it's 428M available.

Ok.. time to delete some apps I thought, but then I noticed that my /system folder (Where I presume pre-installed apps live) had almost 1/3 of it's space still available (115 out of 350megs available).

So I'm wondering.....

Is there some method that I can use to install Apps directly to this folder instead of the standard /data that apps appear to go to when installed?

Is it as simple as moving the APK file with Root Explorer, or are there some under the hood items in apps that prevent this sort of thing?

I've a few rather large apps that I cannot move to the SD card due to widget problems and the like but would be perfect for the system folder if I can find a way to move them there easily.

Thoughts?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] superlinkx:
/system/app is where system apps are kept. If I remember correctly, any app can be installed into there, but you have to do through flashing an update.zip if I'm remembering properly. You may be able to take the apk that's in /data/app for the app you want to move and move it to /system/app, but I'm not sure if that will work properly or not. Someone who cooks ROMs might know more.

Also, you can partition your sd card and use true apps2sd with most ROMs. Its a little bit of work and will shorten the life of your card, but that gives you a lot more room if you need it.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dglowe343:
I don't know that there's a way to move user apps to system. It's very possible there is a way, I've just never seen any posts about it. Apps 2 SD is usually the way to go.

ps. 30 megs?!?! Geez, how many apps do you have? :o

Sent from my SUPERSONIC
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dkdude36:
Easy peasy

First, use a true apk backup tool to backup e apk files you want to move. Titanium backup will NOT work because it compresses and distorts, and we need true apk files. I recommend file manager by adao team. Just go to applications, check what you want, and hit backup. Next, get the apk files on your computer by mounting sd and copying files from backups folder. You will lose all app data, but what can you do? Next, adb push the files to system app folder while in recovery mode (just say so if you don't know how to do this and i will tell you) and reboot. Done. Tell me if it works well.

By the way, 30 megs???
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nebenezer:
Doesn't froyo install to the sdcard if you tell it to?

I thought a2sd was obsolete
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xHausx:
You can put apps there after changing the folder's permissions but I wouldn't recommend it. Just not a good idea to put regular apps there.

Just install them to your SD card instead
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] skydeaner:
go into the android app manager and go through all your programs and click on move to sd card...

they will all still occupy some space on your nand, but not nearly as much.