yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Vibrant General] Breach:
If you have a right to whine about it, then they have a right to ***** about it.

Samsung/T-mobile will give us what they want, when they want. They don't care if you ***** or whine on a dozen forums. Either deal with it or buy a new phone.

Next time, think twice about buying a phone that doesn't already have the software version on it that you want. It seems pretty damn simple to me.
[Vibrant General] ntellegence:
You were not obligated to buy a Vibrant.
[Vibrant General] All~G1:
Lol....

@smashpunks

http://forums.t-mobile.com/
[Vibrant General] smashpunks:
Lmfaoooo y'all are so fun to rile up ...lol
[Vibrant General] All~G1:
I guess you're bored waiting for voodoo too? Lol
[Vibrant General] jonnybueno:
I like my vibrant... I've had a lot of Android phones (g1, cliq, nexus, Droid, Droid incredible ) and this is my favorite by far 2.2 is nice, but I wouldn't trade it for this gorgeous screen :-)
[Vibrant General] hydrogenman:
Whatever happened to just buying a phone for what it is when you buy it.

Don't buy a damn phone because of what it might be down the line. Buy something you like as is and is acceptable...then any updates are just gravy.

OR, like Motorola said...if you want to have complete control, get a Dev phone (N1)
[G1 General] Alex2221:
Could someone explain me, what Kernels are used for/what newer kernels can do better?

I always see threads here with overclocked kernels or something else, but what exactly are they?
[G1 General] jrok81:
Think of kernels as little brains for the operating system (Android).

Kernels can be reconfigured to work across a variety of different hardware by patching certain computer code inside them to match said hardware, etc.

For example, let's say you are a programmer, and you just bought a new bluetooth headset but you have an old phone that doesn't support it (purely hypothetical and unrealistic scenario, but works for this purpose).

You could technically get the source code for the phone's kernel, and if you know about programming operating systems and programming for hardware, you could technically write a bit of code to make your new headset work with your old phone. This is what kernels do, in essence. The reason there are so many different ones out there is because each kernel is specific to either a certain phone or a certain piece of hardware/operating system, etc.

I hope this helps!
[G1 General] lbcoder:
No, he's got that all wrong.

Kernels are hard little dry things that you put into a pot or microwave, heat, and then you get popcorn. Newer kernels are better than older kernels because they are less likely to be contaminated with moisture or bacteria that could make you sick.
[G1 General] jrok81:
One more thing:

If you're interested in learning more about kernels, give LinuxFromScratch a try (google it). It's basically a book that teaches you how to use one Linux operating system (commonly called distributions or "distro" for short) to create your own customized Linux operating system "from scratch".

While working on that, you will inevitably learn a whole lot about kernels, as well as a whole lot about Linux, which is what Android, Macintosh, etc. are running off of. :)

Just a friendly tip if you're interested.
[G1 General] jrok81:
LOL good one buddy :D
[G1 General] lbcoder:
Error... that does not compute.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cba1986:
Good Day people.

I'm on JM7. and when i send a sms, it send it but doesn't show the date when was send. It only shows "sending".

Anyone with this problem?

Forget about it, solved with JM8.

Thanks.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rulevoid:
Thanks to Adrynalyne for the kernel and Docmon for the support

Download the following file that matches your current ROM (All have been BDVD enabled):

Sense Based ROM: http://adrynalyne.us/files/kernels/psfreedom/bdvd/psfreedom_bdvd_inc_sense.zip

CyanogenMod6: http://adrynalyne.us/files/kernels/psfreedom/bdvd/psfreedom_bdvd_inc_cm6.zip

Ruby: http://adrynalyne.us/files/kernels/psfreedom/bdvd/psfreedom_bdvd_inc_ruby.zip

Prerequisites: Must have PS3 version 3.41 phat or slim. Must be rooted. If you are not, use unrevoked here: http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/unrevoked3

Instructions:

1.) Place downloaded zip file from above on SD card

2.) Make Nandroid backup (just in case)

3.) install zip through recovery

4.) reboot phone

5.) Step 5 is only necessary if you are running CM6 or Ruby.

5a.) Download terminal emulator app from market and install

5b.) Open terminal emulator and issue the following commands

su

insmod /system/lib/modules/psfreedom.ko

6.) plug in cable from PS3 to Incredible

7.) Turn off power to PS3 by unplugging power cable if you have a slim or by flipping the switch if you have a phat model then reconnect/toggle back on

8.) Press the power button immediately followed by the eject button on the PS3.

9.) You may now unplug your phone from the PS3 as it is no longer necessary.

10.) You can now flash your kernel of choice back onto your phone to "disable" this mod. Or you can recover your nandroid backup.

Now you should have two new menu options under games on the dashboard. You can use these to install programs such as backup manager or other homebrew.

Enjoy!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] adrynalyne:
Source:

http://adrynalyne.us/files/kernels/psfreedom/source/
[Droid Incredible Android Development] adrynalyne:
Ruby kernel:

(Needs testing)

http://adrynalyne.us/files/kernels/psfreedom/bdvd/psfreedom_bdvd_inc_ruby.zip

CM6 kernel:

(Needs testing, may require module loading via insmod)

http://adrynalyne.us/files/kernels/psfreedom/bdvd/psfreedom_bdvd_inc_cm6.zip
[Droid Incredible Android Development] shabubu:
Awesome, thanks for the instructions! Will try it out later tonight or tomorrow.

One question, can anyone explain in layman's terms what the difference between these is:

payload_dev_bdemu.bin : This is the PSGroove payload which adds Poke/Peek system calls, with BD-Emu support

payload_bdemu.bin : This is the standard payload with BD-Emu support (which allows to play backups)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rice247:
Nice, just tried the Droid port on my wife's phone last night. Gonna try this on my Dinc tonight.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bhazard451:
Cant wait to try this!!! My Teensy is on backorder so this is a perfect stand-in.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jermaine151:
Just checked my PS3 and it's still on ver 3.30 so I may have to try this out on Ruby!!! :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rulevoid:
You can download the 3.41 update and apply it using Sony's directions for applying updates via a flash drive. Then you can take advantage of this exploit.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rulevoid:
The difference is only noticable if you are a dev and looking at peeking into the kernel. If you are just wanting to use it to play backups or homebrew, either will work.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] fader01:
Confirmed working on Virtuous 2.6. Backup manager and FTP server installed and setup. FTPing backups to the PS3 as I type.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] zeke1988:
does this work on my Xbox360?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] enomele:
You have got to be kidding...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rulevoid:
Haha I'm sure he/she is.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bhazard451:
Confirmed working on Ruby, using Backup Manager to backup MAG now. Awesome job on this Adrynalyne!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] shabubu:
Worked wonderfully on Virtuous 2.6 :)

Thanks again!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] adrynalyne:
Glad to hear, and thanks :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] htchot:
I tried applying to CM6 nightly build 09-08 and it gave me an error in CW about signature. Also what does it mean by it "require module loading via insmod". THank You.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rulevoid:
Well, before the psfreedom.ko file was autoloaded at boot time, you had to manually go into a terminal emulator and su then type insmod /system/modules/psfreedom.ko I think that was the path. If you go to the first post and look at the old thread we were in, you can search in that and find the exact path.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] htchot:
Thank you for the reply. So how to I apply this kernal for CM6? I get a signature verification error when I tried to apply it in CW. Thank YOu.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] htc(hot-taco-cheese):
PS jailbreak is making a new version that will jailbreak ALL ps3 versions. It will be ready soon.

¤ mobile ¤
[Droid Incredible Android Development] superchilpil:
Cool! I wonder when Sony is gonna get smart and completely remove the debug
[Droid Incredible Android Development] lennie paz:
Thank you, I was under the impression that SkyRaider Vanilla was "Senseless".
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Qbfinest83:
Are they still working on the Custom Recovery image, like clockmod or Amon_RA?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Killa200:
I'm another that would be interested in the recovery image, especially while this process has to be redone with every boot from the ps3.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Mthodmn101:
any hermes v3 support?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] superchilpil:
I don't wanna be rude but people keep asking

No Hermes support, if it was it would be meantioned in the op
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Mthodmn101:
just informing that the kernel needs to be update since most of the newer, better looking managers just support hermes v3 now
[Droid Incredible Android Development] superchilpil:
I think we have some developers working on a recovery
[Droid Incredible Android Development] quepaso:
First off, anyone saying that the hack is coming to 3.42 or above, just shut up already.

This was a fake promise by the PSJailbreak team in hopes someone would be stupid enough to purchase their product. Its not happening.

Second, Hermes payloads are very buggy. They have the same syscalls in different pokes and causes freezing among other issues.

Third, the creator of PSFreedom is making a all new payload that is going to blow everything out there out of the water. Be patient and wait for it, there is a new loader being made specifically for the new payload to match with it properly vs the hacks we see out there now.

Fourth, personally i still use the original Inc sense payload, as it has the original peak/poke working, and using the old 1.13 OM loader, using patch mode when needed. It works fine. Until something more stable is out, like the new psfreedom payload, i'll be sticking to this.

Hope that clears up any confusion.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rulevoid:
It is "Senseless" but it is still has Sense stuff.

There are two things, Manufacturer ROMS, and AOSP ROMS.

Ruby and Cyanogenmod are AOSP roms, they are built from the opensource for Android then made to work with specific phones. Manufacturer ROMS are AOSP with a bunch of stuff attached with them.

SkyRaider's base ROM is the official HTC Incredible ROM which has Sense integrated and all of their crap. So SkyRaider Vanilla is this sense rom with as much of the sense stuff pulled out of it. But whichever way you look at it, it is still on top of a sense rom.

The only way to have a true senseless ROM is to start with AOSP as your base ROM.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] KB Smoka:
I'm with you, I use the original one too....Works great.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] pwrshft99:
Is this different than the original than ?? I need a later version of psfreedom to fix the controller problem I'm having with nba2k11.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] TiHKAL:
I really hope someone compiles a new version soon as well. It seems Hermes v3 is working pretty well for most people.

I wish the hack was a bit more configurable. IE: select which payload you want to use.

Ah well, beggers can't be choosers. :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] quepaso:
Yep, grab the one from the wiki, i played NBA 2K11 with the move controller just fine with it. Remember that it needs to be copied with proper permissions, so fire up the google machine and find out how to do that properly.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tcberg2010:
Will this work if I have a broken bluray drive? FW is pre 3.41 but I can always upgrade.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Bardasian:
until someone compiles a newer version using hermes payloads, you can't use this without a disc in the drive.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tcberg2010:
That's what I thought, thanks for verifying.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] pwrshft99:
I used the Sense Rom from here psfreedom.com/wiki/HTC_Droid_Incredible

and open manager v1.16 erased the original copy and backed it up again but still no controller function ??
[Droid Incredible Android Development] quepaso:
Did you press R2 on the controller to switch to Patch Mode before launching nba 2k11? You'll see Patch Mode popup on the screen to verify you are in that mode.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] pwrshft99:
Ahh thank you !! Success, hopefully I'm good now until call of duty comes out...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] haru3173:
I think you need Hermes v3 payload for OM to work fully. This kernel uses doesn't use v3 payload yet.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Vorbeth:
No you don't, you need the OM developer to stop hooking thing's into hermes.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rulevoid:
I posted that stuff on the wiki as a direct copy of the stuff from this thread in the OP. Those links are the exact same as the ones here.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] TiHKAL:
Bad news for the people with broken bdvd.

I can't post the link but head over to psx-scene and search for topic: Keep getting 80028f14 error on /app_home/PS3_GAME/

Getting the Hermes v3 payload will not fix the issues. Seems it might just be time to bite the bullet and repair the laser.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tek85:
Are you using an updated payload, or the original release for PSFreedom on the DInc? It sounds like you're using a payload that doesn't support discless operation.

I may be wrong though.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Mthodmn101:
i wish adrynalyne would come back to this thread with an updated kernel.... but i dont mind using my ipod with hermes v3 for now
[Droid Incredible Android Development] TiHKAL:
No updated payload here, but people are having the same issues with the updated payload. Some games work, but most still have some kind of disc check.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] quepaso:
To get some of the new patches to work like the move patch in heavy rain, it requires the new payload that PSFreedom has or hermes V3. Hopefully something shows up for us inc users.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rulevoid:
Looks like Klutsh set up a cool little site http://psfmod.klutsh.com/ but he is having issues with the Incredible.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Mthodmn101:
yeah i saw that... i hope the newest version will have hermes v3 + ability for retail package install via waninkoko patch
[Droid Incredible Android Development] quepaso:
Ive been helping klutsh test these things, the issue is that the droid incredible clockwork recovery is based on .29 and not .32, so he is having a lot of kernel issues just getting it up and running. Koush also has no interest in making a .32 recovery for incredible, so thats another issue. If he did and shared the source, things would go a heck of a lot faster.

Also, please no references to hermes or whatever versions. PSFreedom has been doing hermes V3 since before hermes payload was out, and psfreedom was the first to do the patch from math for the proper package install directory.

Its insanely up to date, we just dont have a way of using it on our phones atm.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] GMK83:
Adr's recovery clockwork on crack has a .32 kernel. That is why it scrolls like it does
[Droid Incredible Android Development] quepaso:
He doesnt have the source code for it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Qbfinest83:
Cool well I am glad he is working on it at least. Buy why doesnt he share the source code
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tcberg2010:
Has anyone tried to ask him to post the source. To my knowledge the GPL(?) states that he has to if its requested.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] quepaso:
The source to his code is posted at psfmod.klutsh.com, it is KOUSH, the maker of clockwork recovery and CM6 who isnt doing a proper .32 recovery for incredible.

If adrynalyne wanted, he could update the kernel he made with the new PSFreedom code, but he just doesnt seem interested. PM him and ask him to do it, thats how we got it in the first place LOL.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] TiHKAL:
I am really tempted to PM, but don't want to hassle him. They seem to be making some great advances with updates and discless compatibility. I'm sure once everything simmers down a little bit dev wise there will be plenty of people ready to do this work. It just seems like everything is changing so fast currently. If one were to compile something today it would just need to be redone the following day.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] quepaso:
Koush has updated clockwork recovery to .32, here it is:

http://koush.tandtgaming.com/recoveries/recovery-clockwork-2.5.1.1-inc.img

With this, a PSFreedom custom recovery becomes very much of a reality.

Thanks again, koush!!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Qbfinest83:
Yup was looking for the New Sky Rider 3.3 and when I login to Rom Manger it said to update clockworks I was like ALLLLLLLLLLRIGHT
[Droid Incredible Android Development] quepaso:
koush hasnt put up the source for 2.5.1.1, everyone let him know its not there or the psfreedom guys cant try to make a recovery!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] superchilpil:
The incredible was removed from the site that klutsh had set up

:/
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Jasems:
Bummer

Dang, gonna have to hunt down an ipod 1gb nano now... :(
[Droid Incredible Android Development] quepaso:
Adrynalyne is downloading the PSFreedom source, we might have the new kernel available to us soon!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SomeGuyDude:
Waiting for Xbox Free60...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] adrynalyne:
Ok, kernel built, but module is not. I gotta figure out what the hell the dev changed before I can get it to compile :/
[Droid Incredible Android Development] adrynalyne:
Maybe you guys can help me out. There is a new directory I see in the source called PL3. Not really sure what its for, but...its a problem.

What is PL3 exactly? Keep in mind, I dont own a PS3.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] geekanerd:
This is just a copy and paste job from another site. Maybe it'll help you out, though it's fairly spammy:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Vorbeth:
pl3 is the payloads, you will need to

git submodule update --init

to get it downloaded, then install the ps3toolchain that pl3 links to.

cd pl3
git checkout master
git submodule update --init
cd ps3toolchain

Follow the readme.txt

Then you can build psf like before, only this time the payloads are in the kernel

and you switch between then with

echo 3_41 > /proc/psfreedom/fw_version
echo 3_15 > /proc/psfreedom/fw_version

etc
[Droid Incredible Android Development] adrynalyne:
Thanks guys.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Garrett07:
is that real!?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Garrett07:
Worked flawlessly btw, Now i just need to find some game dumps to download and play :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] BigNate:
is there a psfreedom kernel to work with ps3 system software 3.42
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Qbfinest83:
Is there a guide on how to compile these. I tried to and got the ko file but am stuck on what to do next
[Droid Incredible Android Development] quepaso:
No one other then adrynalyne has ever gotten psfreedom to work on the incredible.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Garrett07:
Not true... I just did it you have to have the right firmware, if you updated past 3.41 its not going to work
[Droid Incredible Android Development] GMK83:
He is talking about creating the kernels
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tcberg2010:
Could someone compile with the latest payload. If I had the time I would do it myself.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] TiHKAL:
It seems like Adrynalyne is already working on it! w000t!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] xtremebrdr:
yes would be nice to see hermes v4b compiled into this :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] KB Smoka:
I've been using the original kernel and haven't had any issues. What do these Hermes updates allow you to do? Game updates/patches? Disc-less launch? There has been so many new things introduced with this jailbreak it's hard to keep up.....
[Droid Incredible Android Development] TiHKAL:
All of the above.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] quepaso:
im buying a ipod nano 1st gen today, tired of waiting. The main issue is the PSFmod guys have been trying really hard and not getting anywhere with the incredible, so official support is non-existent.

Adrynalyne is just super busy as well and also has no PS3.

So basically i give up waiting, going the rockbox way.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] TiHKAL:
Why not just grab an actual jailbreak device? They are cheaper than an ipod.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] quepaso:
Got a 1st gen nano for 10 bucks on craigslist..
[Droid Incredible Android Development] TiHKAL:
Woah! NM, that is a great deal!

I'm looking at the PS3 USBJailBreak AT64S $8.99 but shipping is $20+

It seems to have a really nice updater, but it's still dependent at least at this point on the manufacturer not losing interest in the product.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] quepaso:
Yah, i didnt want to invest too much into a dev board since i know eventually we wont even need these devices at some point, what will i do with a usb dev board lol, the nano i can still get my 10 bucks back easily after im done with it

Update - Got my nano 1st gen formatted in itunes, then installed all the goodies like ipl and rockbox, then downloaded the proper hermes v4b for nano 1st gen and it all works flawlessly. So nice not having to worry about the incredible getting support, i suggest others do the same with a used nano 1st gen off of craigslist.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kaluce:
i have to say that, since the majority of the work is done, it's probably easier to just recompile the current module. psfreedom is really just a linux kernel module, and now that PL3 is pretty much the standard, it's really only rolling your own package against the kernel.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] estat:
Looks like there's a new version of PL3. Sorry for the copy, paste.

ps3hax.net/2010/10/pl3-updated-%E2%80%93-moh-now-running-without-need-of-game-updates

Anyone know how to update the kernel with this payload?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] quepaso:
If it was this easy, it would have been done by now. No one is understanding this. The top people have been working on getting it to build a working new payload without success. Believe me, ive tried 5-10 test kernels and maybe 20+ test recoveries. If it was so simple, you dont think it'd be done by now?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] KB Smoka:
Do you need a Mac for this?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] xtremebrdr:
no you do not
[Droid Incredible Android Development] KB Smoka:
Got it working with an old iPod Mini 2G.....Game updates working, Hermes v4b and Gaia Manager....Seems some games still need a disc to launch though.

Better than using my phone everytime!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] quepaso:
It is the way to go, congrats on having a usable setup.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] superchilpil:
my click wheel on my ipod mini is broken, do you think it will still owrk on mine?

ive been trying but it doesnt work.. maybe im doing something wrong

Edit: screw it i bought a teensy
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Sac's Droid:
is there anyway we can get this in recovery like the evo?