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[Vibrant General] lqaddict:
I completely agree, if you got a smartphone and use it you will drain the battery, otherwise why get a smartphone? The battery tech is well behind the tech these days, and hence is the culprit that cripples our devices.
[Vibrant General] pavvy:
Yeah man -- if you're on VZW, get an Incredible! I've always thought that phone looks hot...
[Vibrant General] BossDj:
You hit the nail on the head man, you have to train these li batteries. Full charge, let it die, full charge again, best results are to do this right out of the box. Small charges especially at first kill the lives of li batteries
[Vibrant General] DarkAgent:
Why would you get the fascinate over droid x or incredible? Verizon only has the fascinate because they want to fit it. In reality they have watered down the phone to crap. The only good change they made was adding flash. Read engadgets review on the fascinate to learn more.
[Vibrant General] DarkAgent:
Please no one listen to this person's advice - they are misinformed and are misinforming. You donot need to train LiIon batteries. Fully discharging a LiIon HURTS it, not makes it hold more charge.

The only thing you may need to so is calibrate the phone/battery. If you find your Vibrant uses 50% battery in 30 mins but the next 50% lasts you all day, do a full charge/discharge ONCE. This will not improve your battery life at all but it will help calibrate it so the Vibrant properly reads the charge.
[Vibrant General] BossDj:
Say what you will about my advice, I may be new to android but I'm not new to technology, And also not the only person out here who has had success with the charge drain charge method in getting great battery life. I was agreeing with a previous post that states doing this once when the phone is new. Sorry if you can't understand the theory, but my proof is in my own battery life.
[Vibrant General] dancegrenade:
Well I just wanna be able to use all the features of my smartphone for a day! Can anyone help me with that?
[Vibrant General] mastapsi:
Anyone posting on these forums really shouldn't have an issue with bing. If you don't like it, you probably have already rooted the phone so its easy to change. Don't like the bloat? Load a slimmer ROM. Really this applies to just about anyone. Anyone who is seriously complaining is probably already the sort to root their phones. Just about all the negative points are solved with root or custom ROMs.

I am choosing the Fascinate for money reasons (BOGO) and because Verizon has the best coverage in my area. T-mobile doesn't have any towers out of town, AT&T doesn't have enough towers to support all the iPhones, and I had serious issues with Sprint before. Simple process of elimination means I am getting a Fascinate.

Call me crazy as well, but from what I've seen of TouchWiz, I kinda like actually, better than the Droid X and 2's Blur.

Concerning Li-ion batteries, discharging to 0% then full recharge does nothing for real battery life. What it does do is make you battery meter more accurate from what I understand. But actually fully discharging it will kill the battery. Most batteries though automatically cut themselves off if they reach a threshold voltage to prevent damage, and this is internal to the battery.
[Vibrant General] flameinthefire:
hehe tell me about it. it just sux samsung copied everything from apple but forgot about the battery.
[Vibrant General] lolcopter:
don't know what to tell you man. i'm at 1 day, 11 hours, 27 minutes and counting... finally got down to 5%

get some more batteries? they're really cheap... so that's good. i guess.
[Vibrant General] flameinthefire:
why would customers be forced to get new batteries... when they paid over 400 dollars for this phone. This just does not seems right thing to do. we should not have to buy anything for it to work properly.
[Vibrant General] johnnyh64:
I agree.

There is a thread on here that talks about calibrating the battery for an Evo (I believe) and it did wonders for my phone. I don't have the link but here are the steps:

1. Phone is on. Charge untill told to unplug charger.

2. Unplug charger and turn off phone.

3. Plug in charger and charge until phone beeps (about 1-5 minutes)

4. Unplug charger and turn on phone

5. Charge to 100% again (1-5 minutes)

6. Unplug charger and reboot.

7. All done! Enjoy a new battery.

Before I did this "calibration", I was really feeling bummed that my battery didn't last. I followed a few other recommendations (dark screen, turn off unused services, etc) and I got 1.5 days and still had 10 percent left! This was using the device lightly to moderately. Try it but DO NOT RUN YOUR BATTERY ALL THE WAY DOWN! It's not good for these types of batteries even though there is a safety zone built in.
[Vibrant General] lolcopter:
works fine for me. sounds like user error.

it's painfully obvious battery technology has a lot of catching up to do. go buy an iphone, then mail it in when you need a new battery if you're so upset about it.

edit: buy anything to work properly, blah bumpers, blah blah holding it wrong, blah etc. epic apple fail, etc. etc.
[Vibrant General] flameinthefire:
i got a iphone ...... i have had every single iphone the only problem i hate at&t. otherwise i would be on my iphone 4
[Vibrant General] dancegrenade:
I think everyone needs to just cool their jets and share some knowledge is all! NO HATE ALL LOVE! haaha :3
[Vibrant General] quest4fire:
My friend has an iphone 3g and he said battery life sucks too...he gets one day of use from it. He bought extended battery case and gets about 3 days now.

I came from a basic cell phone that lasted me about a week on a full charge and when I bought the vibrant I was bummed that I was barely getting a day worth before recharge. It was a rude awakening for me but my smart phone friends said it was normal, the price you pay for smartphone conveniences.

Like other people said, if you change some of the settings you can get a little more life. I am waiting for an extended battery case, me think I can get 3 days out of it which would be acceptable to me.
[Vibrant General] xavyi:
Get a full day of battery with average use!

Download: UltimateJuice / Juicedefender

Download: Setcpu (underclock while screen is off)

If you can't spend the time to figure out how to tweak these two applications in your favor, then you should go back to an iphone. I've noticed iphones are primarily used by the less tech savvy people. (ie. buying a custom built computer with stock clock settings, instead of building it yourself and fine tuning it.)

Edit: I meant to say full day of battery with 'glued to your hand usage'

on a side note.. if you're really anal about battery consumption when you are not using your phone for an extended amount of time

but you don't wanna turn your phone off because yous till want to receive updates.. i'm pretty sure you can get DAYS maybe a week out of your phone if you underclock to 100mhz while screen is off and set juice protector to everything off besides updates every 15m for 1m(data usage) standard sms and phone calls will come in as normal. goodluckkkk! ...don't promote steve jobs. (:
[Vibrant General] flameinthefire:
what if i say i tried both???
[Vibrant General] lqaddict:
Do you need 3G radio up all day? Try switching to 2G only, and see if you have juice left by the end of the day.
[Vibrant General] courtmagician:
This worked for me as well, on both the original battery and cheap-o ebay replacement batteries, which give me great battery life right now. I do think you have to do this if you change out the batteries, but under normal use, you don't have to do that (replace batteries, I mean). But still, it's about 10 minutes of time in the morning/night for much better battery performance.
[Vibrant General] flameinthefire:
i tried it and its the same thing didn't work for me.
[Vibrant General] joe.kerwin:
Aren't there still known problems with the profiles on SetCpu? I tried last week and it worked for awhile but after an hour eventually my phone wouldn't wake up. Is there some type of underclocking method (for screen off only) that i've missed?
[Vibrant General] henreeg:
LOL!

anyway... my battery lasts me at least 12 hours.

Turn off WiFi/GPS/3G... Airplane mode at night.

Heavy use during the day.
[Vibrant General] flameinthefire:
i think i will sell this phone just because of the ****ty battery life. but i am not sure which phone to get... any suggestions?
[Vibrant General] lolcopter:
in this forum?

probably not. but thanks for not making a brand new thread for this
[Vibrant General] scooterman:
use a mostly black background

set all syncs to 12 or 24 hours

don't meaninglessly scroll through your app drawer to look at the pretty screen all the time.

i charged my phone 15 hours ago and im at 66% right now.
[Vibrant General] PhilSlater:
It's comments like this that bug me.

In this case, another thing in common is the person's location. Maybe the Vibrant is really bad with low signal strength and he is in a low signal strength area and you are in an area with really good signal strength.

Another possible problem is that quality is all over the place on the Vibrant, and maybe the person got 2 duds in a row. Or 2 dud batteries. I know mine was pretty bad.

Or maybe there is 1 app, just 1 app that somehow will drain the battery. That shouldn't happen, but given that the person had a valid comparison point with a different OS, it is possible.

What encourages me is the discussions on the lag fix (a lag I never noticed) seeming to increase the battery life drastically. I know my wife has a Droid X and its battery life is great, but the battery is about the same size (1540 vs. 1500, I think), so hopefully it is possible for it to get fixed.
[Vibrant General] scooterman:
about an app staying running ive had this happen twice where a stuck app puts the cpu at 100% and it drains the battery fast but you can tell its happening because the phone gets real hot real quick.
[Vibrant General] lrobles787:
All Android phones has ****ty battery this my third android is the best battery life of them all. I get between 14hrs to 15hrs with moderate usage. Make sure for the first time drain the battery re-charge it 2hrs extra with the phone off. So let the phone die completely. Do this twice & after that u should see better results. It works for me...
[Vibrant General] lrobles787:
It's me again I am using stock Vibrant not rooted. So I get amazing results that's why I am in love with this phone. I heard if u root the phone u get like 16hrs & half which is not bad. I rooted one of my old android phones but is up to you cuz you can brick your phone. I followed the unlocker website but if u are not sure don't take the risk. I love the way the phone is.
[Vibrant General] reaton33:
hmm

Ive posted on a few battery related threads. My battery would not last me more than 12 hours with almost no use. After I applied RyanZAs lag fix it tripled with the exact same amount of use. Right now I'm at 1 day 17 hours with 14% battery left.

Cell standby = 37%

Display = 26%

Phone idle = 25%

Voice calls = 6%

Android system = 3%

LauncherPro = 2%

Android OS = 2%

Thats all it tells me actually. Am I missing something or isnt it supposed to equal 100%? lol. I honestly don't know why most are getting 12 hours battery life even with heavy use. I really think there is something draining the battery for people who are reporting 12 hours with light use just like I was getting.
[Vibrant General] Kubernetes:
I ended up disabling SetCPU because it was causing random freezes, especially when I put the screen on sleep. And yes, it was set on conservative, but it was still causing at least two lockups a day.

One thing I've noticed is that the battery life is actually much better than I first thought. I'm into my second week and battery life is much better already. The battery meter is way off though. Today when I got home my battery was at 6%. I thought I'd bleed it off until it died because I'm calibrating a different battery meter app. The thing stayed on for 2 hours with Pandora running, Wifi and BT on, updating Slacker cache, playing games, playing Youtube videos and eventually streaming the Pandora to my laptop via BT. The sucker simply would not die, and it led me to believe that the battery meter is seriously misreading actual battery life.

I think people freak out when battery level starts getting low and they think "OMG it's going to die in under 8 hours." But that last 10% might last you another 5-6 hours in normal use.
[Vibrant General] Apexsilverevo:
Just to add some more data:

Stock ROM/Rooted/Ryanz Lag fix

24% Battery level

19h8m23s since unplugged

Voice=51%

Display=19%

Standby=15%

Idle=8%

Bluetooth=3%

OS=3%

Hope that helps someone :)
[Vibrant General] xavyi:
Edit: I've come to this same conclusion i would run pandora or youtube around 25% and the % would not go down at all... maybe 1% in 20-30m with the screen on not sure if i was on wifi or 3g.. but samy sure screwed up on the vibrant.. i can't speak for all galaxy s' because i personally have no tried them.. but that did hurt =/
[Vibrant General] xavyi:
if you effectively got your juice defender to read over x2.xx @ 1000mhz and your battery is still draining... then your battery is the issue. if you're not getting at least close to x1.7 on juice defender... then your settings might be a little off... here, check mine out.

i55. tinypic. com/ jkuf79. jpg

(my account is fairly new so you'll have to take the spaces out)
[Vibrant General] Mark271:
Please post the minutes on the PERCENTAGES so people can instantly see if your battery life is any different. Sorry for the tone of post, I'm amazed no one has said anything yet. (unless I missed it)
[Vibrant General] MurdockBaracus:
This worked for me as well. Im running Axura 2.2 and I was getting good life for a day or two then crap. Did this and the next day, 22 hours with 50% remaining and Im not using juice defender.
[Vibrant General] xriderx66:
It's true it does kill the battery inside out.

Maybe what you did is the "placebo" effect.

PEOPLE, THIS WILL WORK FOR EVERYONE, ON EVERY PHONE, ON EVERY CARRIER WHAT EVER.

Delete any app that checks battery life except the system itself, ex: settings or in some roms the status bar, you can't do anything about that.

For people who don't have the roms that show battery life on status bar... just watch its your mind, your constantly looking at the battery going its lowering its lowering! instead of enjoying your phone.
[Vibrant General] Deggy:
I call BS to people who have battery life that go about 2 days without charging. I get at most 12-18 hours.

Here's what going with my phone:

NeroV3 w/ the kernel that came with it

Voodoo enabled

SetCPU underclocking everything

Only two things that refresh at an hourly rate (email, and something else idr)

GPS never use

Wifi hardly use

Screen brightness 0% all the time

Auto sync off

I never game

Only use internet at work at 30mins at most

Ruled out any apps that might being using juice (there isn't any)

My battery's health says it good

Text and phone calls at light usuage

Deleted the cache and delvik cache via CWR

Deleted battery stats after charging to 100% via CWR

All black backround

And I'm still losing appx. 5% an hour. Is everyone using a different kernel or something? Like I said, a bunch of BS.
[Vibrant General] lolcopter:
Nero V3

voodoo enabled

sync always on

3g always on / wifi on at work

screen brightness on auto

"power saving mode" in display settings disabled

live wallpaper

used titanium to freeze media hub, visual voicemail, all drm services

i went to work at 8:30am yesterday at 39%, and 12 hours later is was at 21%, with a plenty of use throughout the day checking websites/twitter and some texting

i never bothered to recalibrate the battery. i just charge often because i tether frequently. i can get 24-30 hours easily, and often times much more than that on a full charge
[Vibrant General] Stargazer3777:
Call BS all you want, I would prove it if I could screenshot...

Setup:

Nero v3, with Som's stock kernel included,

Beautiful Widgets Home Weather, GeoLocation Enabled, updating as frequently as it will let me.

Facebook Widget

Medium usage over last 2 days

EDIT: Voodoo ENABLED, and Microbe Live wallpaper, 3G/@g like to switch alot here in the "deadzone' of my company's building, I have wifi set on and use it at home.

Status:

Battery stats display shows: "1d 8h 4m 0s Since Unplugged" with 3% battery left.

I am in the process of a battery condition right now, just waitin for her to shutdown...
[Vibrant General] Deggy:
Holy smokes. Only 18% with heavy usage in a 12 hour span. I just can't believe it.

What exactly am I'm doing wrong? Right now, I'm at 85% since being unplugged at 9:00 am and now it's about 1PM.
[Vibrant General] }{Alienz}{:
My battery is outstanding. No clue what you're ranting about. Unless I use a DOW Kernel based on I9000....then my battery is on vacation.

Wifi on CONSTANTLY, brightness-auto, 300 texts a day, light internet usage, battery is dropping 4% per hour at this...mainly due to screen and lots of texting.
[Vibrant General] Deggy:
God forbid that I leave it on at work or my battery will go down faster than Paris Hilton on escatsy at a party.
[Vibrant General] }{Alienz}{:
Then...something is wrong with your software.

If you leave it idle, EVEN if its full time connected to wi-fi, it should be dropping 1% roughly every 2 hours. I've tested this. If you're having something worse, something is causing excessive drain. I'd look into what you have installed and the Kernel you use as well as its settings.

With wi-fi and data off, idle it should be 1% every 3 hours roughly.
[Vibrant General] Stargazer3777:
Not sure. I had super spotty results until Nero and a battery condition. Nothing specific I can think of that I have changed. If there is any change, I am giving credit to Team Whiskey for an AMAZING custom ROM!
[Vibrant General] }{Alienz}{:
I bet that battery wasn't calibrated in that case. Likely why the 9% then. That's impossibly low drain lol.
[Vibrant General] Deggy:
I wonder if my home replacement is the culprit. I think it's called LauncherPro.
[Vibrant General] ripsphone:
Nero V3:

Running Launcher Pro with Beautiful Home Widget, Friends Widget (refreshing one and hour), power amp widget, calendar widget, Wifi, auto update and GPS always on.

Used Titanium back up to freeze all the bloatware.

Unplugged it yesterday at 7am, with light usage got home at 7pm, forgot to plug it in over night and when I woke up this morning I still had 46% battery remaining.

Now granted it was pretty light use (a couple short calls, a couple texts, checked FB via widget a few times, surfed the web for a couple minutes)

But all in all really not that bad.

My G1 was WAY harder on it's battery
[Vibrant General] Deggy:
I'm using JL5 kernel now w/voodoo 5.0.4. How do I check the settings on that? (Sorry, kind of a n00bie here.) When you ask what I have installed, do you mean apps?
[Vibrant General] Hotstuff5964:
Mine was going pretty good after flashing to Nero V3 w/ VooDoo lagfix enabled. Just for shiggles I decided to do the battery recondition thing. After the first night, my battery life was kind of craptastic. I did it again last night, and now my battery life has been GREAT.
[Vibrant General] trunkstar1:
What process did you go through to recondition? I just flashed too and need to do the same...

Vibrant, NeroV3, JL5, Voodoo...
[Vibrant General] Hotstuff5964:
Kill the battery till the phone shuts off (I turned on wi-fi, gps, and played Avatar at full volume) Then charge the battery to 100% with the phone still powered off (you'll get a 100% indicator on the screen when it's done) then reboot into recovery/advanced settings/delete battery data/yes/reboot phone.
[Vibrant General] qipengart:
That was the best comment about Paris Hilton ever.
[Vibrant General] junglerumble:
how'd you get your battery notification like that on top?
[Vibrant General] Hotstuff5964:
I downloaded it from a thread here on XDA. I don't remember where exactly.
[Vibrant General] rmyc:
how do you get to advanced settings in recovery mode?
[Vibrant General] Hotstuff5964:
It should be one of the options once you're in recovery, just use the volume buttons to scroll down.
[Vibrant General] Hotstuff5964:
Finally managed to kill it :o
[Vibrant General] Haxel:
It enrages me that I get 10 hours max (with exchange sync every 4 hours) and no messengers running when I see others with a 24h life. This is with medium/light usage.

I think after 6 months I've given it the best shot I can. I should have just started complaining from the moment I got it to get it fixed.

I'd like to point out, my first day using it, I charged empty to full.
[Vibrant General] }{Alienz}{:
I think you have some app that is constantly doing something on your phone and hence the battery drain. Use some task managers or Watchdog to figure out what it is...
[Vibrant General] Haxel:
How did you recondition it twice. Did you delete the batterystats.bin both times? or just follow the recharge processes twice and just delete batterystats.bin just once.
[Vibrant General] magentawave:
But will it suck battery juice if I have gmail and email set up so I have to

manually

check for new email instead of automatically checking?
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
Doesn't like you use the phone for much, unless your phone is modded to not show a bunch of stuff on that screen (though Addition indicates it isn't).

With my Exchange client on my phone there's no way I can get through a full day. 7 hours tops.

I hooked it up last night and after 3h 27m my battery was at 50%. It's basically unusable for work because the Exchange client in these phones... something is wrong with it and it drains a ridiculous amount of battery.

Without the Exchange client with light to moderate usage I can get about 10-11 hours before it's at 30%, which i about 15 hours total if you do the math. That's more than enough to get through the day, but it would not last if I actually used it as a GPS device and did more video recording on it (or heavier web browsing).

11+ hours is decent. I can charge it every night, anyways, and I have a car charger. But it takes too much work to keep this phone turned on with my Corporate Exchange account hooked into it. In that 3.5 hours - I didn't recieve any emails, either (it was the middle of the night).

I'm pissed that my phone is useless for Corporate Email because of how much battery the Exchange Clients drain (I've tried Moxier Trial and TouchDown, btw).

So, if you have any Corporate Exchange or Hotmail ActiveSync accounts set up, your battery life will decrease by 35-50% and that can be the source of many people's battery woes.