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[Vibrant General] bobofosho123:
Ok so now that I've gotten your attention with the o' so "loud and in your face" title of this post, on to the main point. I'm REALLY dissapointed that samsung hasn't stepped up to the plate and included flash with the latest update, leaked or not, 2.1 or not. I'm tired of having to use that piece o' crap skyfire broweser that only works half the time on certain sites, and that's if I lucky. It seems to me that this phone may be destined for the veritable technological garbage dump that so many other phones have been. Samsung has yet to deliver on ANY of the promised fixes, including froyo, although maybe this leaked version of the update isn't the final one, and I'm starting to doubt if we'll EVER see froyo. Is anyone else as pissed off as me? :mad: All I know is I'm gonna boot my vibrant for a n1 if something doesn't happen soon. Sorry to any mods or users for the incoherent rant and/or cursing in the aforementioned post, I'm just venting. :p
[Vibrant General] volkl23:
Waaaaaaaaahhhhhhh. Waaaaaaaaaaah
[Vibrant General] bobofosho123:
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh indeed. :D
[Vibrant General] idiosyncrisia:
They just launched the Fascinate, and now they have their phone on all carriers. Sure, it would have been great to have Froyo by now, or launch the Fascinate with Froyo, but I don't think they'd want to fragment their US Galaxy S so much. I'm sure it will come, especially now that all the phones are out. I have a feeling they are going to develop Froyo for all the Galaxy's at the same time. Whether the carriers decide to push out Froyo as soon as it's ready is another question.
[Vibrant General] bobofosho123:
I suppose ur right, and releasing froyo for all the galaxy s phones at the same time would make sense. Now I suppose the real question is, which is closer, cyanogenmod or an official froyo update from sammy?
[Vibrant General] Genesis1791:
Seriously I can understand peoples frustrations but venting on the forum isn't going to change a thing. The OTA for Froyo is speculated to be released in September and its still September isn't it? On that note it's only speculated not confirmed. People are in fact working on getting 2.2 to our phones not just Samsung, all I can say is be patient. If you don't want to be patient then shut up and get a G2 when its released if we don't have Froyo by then.
[Vibrant General] bobofosho123:
point taken.
[Vibrant General] monsta34:
I feel you, but the the vibrant has to many pros to just give up on it right now its still early.... Its truly a powerfull device everytime I show a iphone fan boy this phone they give it props they cant hate on it;)
[Vibrant General] raduque:
1)Adobe has limited flash 10.1 to Android 2.2 phones only.

2)The Galaxy S line doesn't have Froyo yet.

3)You're an idiot.
[Vibrant General] thedarkpassenger:
i couldn't imagine frequenting enough flash sites on my laptop/desktop to make me want flash this badly on my mobile device...
[Vibrant General] rakeshchn:
Well I kinda understand the frustration in the OP as flash support means a lot more on the web. I miss watching news clips on CNN website and shows on Hulu on the gorgeous Vibrant screen. But I have no doubt about Samsung's commitment to Galaxy S especially after reading the results of leaked firmware. Instead of losing patience and shouting in forum I would wait for Sammy to roll out a stable Froyo update on this fantastic phone and then enjoy all the goodies. I am sure nobody still has question on whether Vibrant will get Froyo or not after seeing all those videos of european version running froyo. It may be September or October, but I can wait.
[Vibrant General] bobofosho123:
yeah, i'll admit to being impatient, just one of my quirks i guess :) But yeah, flash means A LOT to me, and so would netflix as a matter of fact, but I digress. Anyway, I'll give it another month and see what happens, thank god I didn't buy my phone with a contract, even more plus all the way hehe.
[Vibrant General] rakeshchn:
Dont worry my friend....i have a good feeling that we wont be disapponted.
[Vibrant General] smashpunks:
Flash does make the experience a whole heck of a lot better ..
[Vibrant General] boodies:
you sound like smashpunks. chill out
[Vibrant General] qreffie:
It hurts so much since the phone is so powerful, but it's like Samsung doesn't want to give it the one thing it truly needs to dominate the rest of the pack. I'm tired of seeing the Nexus 1 on the top of every benchmark when we all know the hummingbirds will eat those snapdragons for breakfast.
[Vibrant General] mrbradeli:
This image disagrees with you.
[Vibrant General] j0hnZ:
Not to be an ass but, why don't you use the advanced version so we can see the CPU gain and not just the lagfix gain. The lagfix makes some things faster and other things slower...the original lagfix that is. I haven't used the voodoo one, so I can't comment on it. I know there is a CPU gain on yours as the most I've seen just with lagfix is in the 2200's. So I assume you have a different rom and/or OC'ing.
[Vibrant General] qreffie:
Not necessarily. Your custom rom is on top, but a stock Galaxy S is still below a Nexus 1 running froyo. If we want to throw mods in the game, a custom N1 or Droid 2 may beat yours because they have froyo and you don't.
[Vibrant General] kanwal236:
1. if you're on this forum, you should know, you can use flash 10.1 on android 2.1 phones, just limited to HTC ones

2. the galaxy s line does have hacked froyo on it, just look through the forums ;)

3. idc about this comment

anyway, we'll get froyo soon enough, look at the evidence, it's been confirmed already, maybe not for a specific one in a specific country, but hey, once one country is out, others follow quick, besides, the galaxy tab, which is basically the same hardware as the galaxy s, runs froyo, it's probably the bug fixes thats taking them a while, be patient and you'll get it

edit: forgot to add, you can use skyfire, you got a galaxy s, skyfire will not lag at all, its a browser that has full flash capabilities, and actually the video button thing is better than having youtube playing a video straight out, at least you can control it that way, but yea, skyfire, look in tha market
[Vibrant General] bobofosho123:
I'm well aware of skyfire, and it works on less than half the sites i visit regularly, so there still isn't any perfect solution for flash on the vibrant.
[Vibrant General] KnowledgeBroker:
This seems to work fine on mine so far.. maybe next time you will do more searching? Damn it, this stupid site won't let me post a link to their own site.. h ttp://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6569529&postcount=16

I feel sorry for you, you expect others to come up with the answers you can get yourself..
[Vibrant General] captirwin:
Not appreciated

I, for one, DO NOT appreciate your CRAP...:mad:
[Vibrant General] KerryG:
Then why did you buy this phone if it didn't have the capabilities you needed? I think it is rubbish for people to buy something and then ***** and moan that it doesn't do something that it was never claimed to do.
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
We're never getting flash. Get over it
[Vibrant General] Dougefresh91:
Dude, give them until the end of September. If its not here by then, you can commence being pissed. The leaked my touch hd is looking pretty badass, so I'll just sell this phone and get that if we don't get our update. And my Vibrant can go to the island of misfit devices.
[Windows Phone 7 General] blaiz123:
So I just switched from my old but faithful Razr2 to a Samsung moment, and this is my first time owning an Andoid device.

The platform is definitely very entertaining with all of its apps... but in the end that's all it really has, APPS (same with the iphone).

The reality is that WP7 brings a whole new layer to the smartphone category, and that is Microsoft office. Why shouldn't I be able to do my work off the couch? All I can do with my Moment is have fun and maybe exchange some e-mails,but it does not have any business functionality which is what will make WP7 special. Once Microsoft is able to develop its APP store, it will have the best of both worlds, Business and Entertainment, which is somethinmg neither Apple or Google has at the moment.
[Windows Phone 7 General] JustAPhoneUser:
I agree.

It must also be mentioned that MS platforms have always gotten done games right. This thing is already shaping up to give the PSP a run for it's money.
[Windows Phone 7 General] quietpopcorn:
You're not using the right apps then. Or you're in a strange line of work.
[Windows Phone 7 General] awechris:
my personal view

Android has no business functionability ?

Give me a break ! I've been a windows mobile user over 10 years and all I got was breaking my nerves and endless waits for basic functionability !!! I can do miracles blazing fast with android and I am never going back to windows platform again. I guess u didn't 'play' with Android enough.

My office is always in my pocket and syncs with my Linux laptop and windows desktop over the air perfectly and on an instant. And guess what ? I never need to reboot my android phone! Neither I wait 5 secs for the phone panel to come up whenever I want to dial. I had so many windows mobile devices (first was Jornada 720 in 1997 and last was HTC touch pro). All were crawling and I could do far less from what I can do with my Android phone.

Sent from Phone btw (HTC desire)
[Windows Phone 7 General] CSMR:
Run Zune software on a corporate PC to sync your phone. I don't think so.

You're describing WM6.5, and hopefully WP8, but not WP7.
[Windows Phone 7 General] blaze7810:
i dont want to bash windows i really dont because i used them for awhile; however, windows 6.5 and previous version didnt work well. i restarted countless times with my TP2. it became such a hassle that after awhile i try to use the lightest custom roms just to do texting and calls and still i freeze and restart. seeing that things may be different with WP7 but i spent enough money on something for many years that didnt do a great job on there OS, shot, i think the Symbian OS did a better job. there are other OS sellers that are bringing great innovation, customibility, and stability, these are the things that i believe average users want; consequently, im going back to android (G2 when it comes) because it gave me these 3 things and more. just my opinion but WP7 may not be all what its cracked out to be.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
Idocuments to go, and open office do the exact same thing as office mobile.
[Windows Phone 7 General] kanundra:
Well a lot of companies have allowed iTunes so that people can use iPhones so they will work out a way to use the Zune software.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Kloc:
Why would you need the Zune software? You can use exchange to sync and then sharepoint to share documents.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
^16gb of data, yeah right.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
Well, you don't have to store music and videos on your corporate PC.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
What about my 4gb powerpoint file?
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
I work with Powerpoint all the time, never seen a beast like that. I'd say you are doing something wrong.

That I'm limited to email and Sharepoint to get files on my phone though is a bummer.
[Windows Phone 7 General] RustyGrom:
Right now, you wouldn't really need the Zune client on your work PC as the only syncing that Zune does is media. If you do somehow have a 4GB ppt file (I dunno if WP7 would even support opening it) you'd be best off hopping on WiFi and grabbing it from sharepoint or something. I would really question any scenario where a 4GB ppt file would exist and even then, why you would need it on your phone.

Really hoping they have Office Web Apps/SkyDrive.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
Doing something wrong? Embedding and linking files is wrong?

I and a lot of other people actually use all the features of Powerpoint. Including but not limited to adding our own videos, adding an entire website, music files, intro's, etc,etc...all laid out perfectly on slides that make a point.

WM open these files with ease, a lot files just didn't play in the pp on the mobile version though.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
That would be great but that scenario isn't supported. :eek: There is a workaround though - you can download files from web in IE as far as I know, and thus can have a web server set up on your PC that will let you transfer files directly, or upload them to Skydrive and then download "manually" from there. But that would be a pain for 4GB files anyway.
[Windows Phone 7 General] gom99:
I don't like not having the USB storage functionality either. One of the things that irks me about the direction of wp7. Unlike multitasking and c&p, I don't think this one is coming unless there's alot of fuss about it (which I doubt is going to happen from the general consumer).

But it does seem very odd to have a 4gb presentation. You're supposed to be using the slides as a visual guide not some kind of data storage. Why would you embed the video into the presentation rather than just being a link? And why would you need to transfer some big video to the phone if you're just working on the ppt?
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
For remote control presentation. Plus I don't have to look at the presentation screen.

Click to play or play at entrance is much better than a simple link. It follows suit with the entire presentation. This is just my opinion though.
[Windows Phone 7 General] blaiz123:
Using Windows 6.5 (and previous versions...) as evidence of how "terrible" WP7 is going to be is not really a logical way of thinking... Of course the new OS is going to have some similarities to the old versions but the smoothness with which the WP7 OS runs can't be compared to Windows mobile 6.5. Also, to awechris, I really don't see how syncing your cellphone to your Linux laptop makes it a "great" business phone. Do you know about some obscure android office package that I don't know about? Because to me a business phone in the modern world without access to some sort of Word, Powerpoint, and Excel application, is not a businessphone at all. I want to be able to write a report while sitting on the beach (with a physical keyboard), and that is something that WP7 will be able to offer me in the near future.
[Windows Phone 7 General] coder12:
<sarcasm>You all have it wrong! I can just make calls from my Netbook via Google Voice and edit all the powerpoints the way they were meant to be edited! :D </sarcasm>
[Windows Phone 7 General] das7771:
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[Windows Phone 7 General] blaiz123:
By all means share ur useless opinion...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] afleck:
So I am a funny guy and because I am funny I went swimming in my hot tub fully clothed, forgetting that I usually keep my phone in my left front pocket...

I'll spare you the reasons behind this and the details but I couldn't find anything on these forums about a wet Galaxy. I suppose most of you are simply more cautious than I. Anyways, I figured I will share my story and update everyone on how things work out so perhaps if somebody else succumbs to such a tragedy they will have some info and perhaps some hope.

Nearly the instant I go in the hot tub I realized my phone was in my pocket. I don't think the water had even soaked entirely through my jeans before I jumped up and pulled it out. It was definitely wet though. I through it to my brother who caught it, in a matter of about 2 seconds the screen turned on, got all liney and scrambled and the phone shut off.

I tore the battery out, SIM, and sd and rushed it to a towel to dry it off. I shook it until I couldn't get anymore water to come out of the ports and stuck it into a bowl of rice.

Now I shall wait. I think tomorrow evening I am going to move it from the rice to behind my Xbox and leave it on overnight with the warm air from the fans blowing on it and then back into the rice until Tuesday evening when I might try it.

Does anybody have any ideas? Suggestions? Some encouraging words perhaps? Anything is appreciated.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] BlackDino:
Sounds like you did all you can do.did you seal the rice bag and vacuum out all the air
[Galaxy S I9000 General] FuryriderX:
I only ever lost one phone to water damage. But that was because it got torrentially downpoured on for about 5 minutes.

It still mostly worked, but some keys would sometimes work and sometimes not, and the microphone died.

I was an idiot though and didnt dry it out immediately. I think you might just get out of this one unscathed.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] TriC_101:
I would wait about 4 days before you put the battery back in... an air conditioner would be better since it will blow really dry air on it.. if not just stick it someplace there is lots of air flow.

I have drop a few things in the water.. once a HTC magic.. LOL it was about 10days before it would work.. but it worked great after.. just some water spots on the inside of the screen but other then that it was good.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dakine:
Just make sure its really bone dry before you turn it back on. A couple days in the rice should do the trick. After that just hope you dont get corrosion. At least it was fresh water.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] gschier:
I have been through many phones (cheap dumbphones) in the past and have went swimming with a cellphone 4 times in total, . . . and also lost one in a dumpster. 2ice with one phone. I have been able to recover them successfully every single time except one.

The second time I took one of my phones in the water it was in a hot tub and I was in there for about 5 mins before I realized it. It started vibrating violently in my pocket (i guess the water connected the circuit) so I took out the battery and left it to dry for about 4 days. It worked fine after that, but about a month later the screen stopped working.

I have found that as long as it isn't in the water too long it should work fine as long as you take out the battery right away and give it enough time to dry.

Since you're dealing with an expensive phone here, I would leave it for at least 5 or 5 days to dry just to be sure. Let me know how it goes!

P.S. I just bought a Galaxy S from Bell in Canada and it is my first smartphone. I hope I can keep it out of the water, and the dumpster!

~Gregory
[Galaxy S I9000 General] andrewluecke:
A good idea would be to buy a waterproof case :P
[Galaxy S I9000 General] gschier:
I didn't know those existed :S
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ickyboo:
Make one with a condom :) works great at beach for me with sand and a little water
[Galaxy S I9000 General] andrewluecke:
http://www.h2oaudio.com/store/water...armband-for-large-mp3-players-and-phones.html is the one for iPhone, but I'd like to find out if it fits this phone too.

Headphones: http://www.h2oaudio.com/store/waterproof-headphones.html

I've been considering buying them, because I enjoy the flexibility of being able to jog regardless of weather, without worrying if it might rain. You can also buy special double seal plastic bags, but I wouldn't trust those.

They are expensive, but probably the biggest threat to my phone is getting it wet..
[Galaxy S I9000 General] paul c:
If it doesn't come back to life, make sure it is ABSOLUTELY dry inside (leave it on a radiator for a week, or similar) then send it to the Service Desk people.

I had a similar issue with an iPod (got caught in a downpour on my bike), and that was the collective wisdom frm the Internet. They exhanged it for me (apparently the iPod folks don't do repairs, but just look for obvious signs of abuse, like oxidation, water, impacts).

No idea how samsug work - but as long as it's dry and the accident is quite recent, hopefully there won't be any telltale signs inside.

For the next time :) - DON'T switch it on until the phone is absolutely dry inside. Whipping the battery out asap to avoid shortcircuits as well.

Must say, I'm curious as to the story behind this :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Will.1:
Sooooo... how did you say this happened again?

I don't have any more advice then the what the guys already said, but i'm sending you a lot of encouraging words. Hope it works buddy.

Otherwise, just like Paul C said, if it won't work, dry it as much as you can and send it back, maybe it'll work
[Galaxy S I9000 General] exadeci:
Same way for a phone http://www.wikihow.com/Save-a-Laptop-from-Liquid-Damage
[Galaxy S I9000 General] weirder:
Well, my last phone, Samsung Omnia was actually ok with some water. It dropped in someones hottub once. It was dark there (wasnt my hottub lol) and couldnt find it. So after a minute or 5 i figured I'd call to see what would happen.

Screen turned on, and started vibrating so it was easy to find. :D Turned it off, took it home, opened her up, put it on the radiator and went to bed. Everything was fine the next day. Never had any problems with it after that.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dark_sith:
try this http://dvice.com/archives/2010/08/japanese-cellph.php
[Galaxy S I9000 General] greeced:
Give it a few days... it will dry out and be as new.

My previous phone was a HTC Touch Diamond. I completely submerged it in water for about 5 seconds by accident and it experienced the same issues yours did. (Lines and the like).

The screen was toast (or so I thought), but the phone seemed to work via USB hook up to the computer.

So I went out and I bought a replacement phone after a couple of days. I then proceeded, late at night, to hook up my old phone to extract all information and transfer it over... while I was doing so, I was paying attention to my laptop screen, when I saw a bright light out of the corner of my eye. I looked down and my phone came completely back to life.

Moral of the story was I should have waited longer, but I did sell the newer phone for a $20 profit on kijiji.

Don't rush it like I did (unless there is warranty that covers this somehow)... it will come back.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] afleck:
So basically the story.. My girlfriend and I were bored just wandering around the house thinking of something to do. We went outside and she sat in the hammock which faces away from the hot tub. I thought it would be hilarious for her to turn around and I would just be fully clothed sitting in the hot tub with my slippers and all on.... I suppose it may be funny but before she even turned to see I was rushing to get out and throwing my phone at my brother telling him to get the battery out. Anyways, perhaps it was a bad idea xD and turned out to be not so funny for me. She laughed....

So what I did:

Took out the battery and dried the phone as much as I could with a towel and shaking the water out, I even sucked on the ports a bit in an attempt to get the way out haha.

Then I threw the phone into a container of brown rice which wasn't sealed, after about 3 hours of being in the container I decided to switch it to a sealed ziplock back which I squished all the air out of. For some reason this seemed more logical. I think I should have probably tried to blow dry the phone with a low heat setting first or perhaps used a vacuum to suck the water out. But I didn't.

After about 21 hours in the rice I took it out and blow dried it on the low heat setting (tested on my skin to make sure it wasn't too hot) and did that for about 20 minutes then put it into a home made wind tunnel which basically was done with a blow drier and a fan which forced the warm air into a small space that the phone was in. I left that for about 3 hours and then back into the rice for another night and day (maybe 18 hours or something, too lazy to count).

I haven't plugged it in yet and am just about to so I will stop typing now and test it.

SIM, SD card, Battery all in. Power button pressed.....

Screens on and looks great, sound works great and everything booted up just fine!

It seems as if everything is working fine, good signal to network, wifi works. It might even sound better than before ;) jk haha. All the buttons are working and nothing on the touch screen seems to be off. No bubbles or problems visible underneath the screen. Camera works.

Everything works!!

So I hope this helps somebody out if it happens to them. Rice seems to do the trick. Don't rush it. I am so happy :)