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[Vibrant General] SamsungVibrant:
some people are reporting it is not fixed, accuracy is way off.

You may have gotten excited a bit too early, pre-mature excitement. It appears the epic is locking onto satellites, but the accuracy is way off, 100ft off, and google maps is still placing people in the wrong place.
[Vibrant General] guardian855:
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I might have missed something, but when did Samsung say that the Epic 4g gps was fixed? I see on engadget where the reviewer talked about it being fixed based on his limited observations, but he didn't say that SAMSUNG told him it was fixed.

Again, I might have missed it, but I couldn't find on engadget where they quoted or even said Samsung said the Epic was fixed.

In fact, rereading the review on engadget, it seems to suggest that it was never fixed.

"Surprisingly, the now-infamous AGPS bug is still alive and well right now on the Epic. We're not sure how Sprint can justify releasing it with this bug now so well-known, well-documented, and critical to the operation of the phone -- seriously, it cannot find you most of the time -- but we suppose it'll just get fixed at the same time as the remainder of the Galaxy S models in September. In other words, unless we see a quick firmware update prior to the 31st, don't expect Google Maps to work particularly well out of the box. Oh, and here's another bug: like the Captivate and Vibrant, the Epic doesn't seem to want to mount as mass storage. We weren't able to get it working in USB debugging mode on our Mac, either, though we were able to download media to Image Capture without a problem -- it seems as though the computer is treating the phone as a camera, not a drive.

[Update: We just spoke with Samsung, who told us that Google is now requiring that the "use wireless networks" setting for location-based services be turned off by default in Android devices -- in other words, no AGPS unless you manually enable it. Sure enough, we went into Settings, found that it was disabled on the Epic, turned it on, and we were good to go. No GPS bug!]

[Update 2: The fact that AGPS comes disabled by default is a separate issue unto itself, unrelated to issue with actual GPS satellite triangulation. See our full breakdown here.]"
[Vibrant General] elkavayo:
I had the opportunity to play with an Epic tonight and the gps issue affecting the vibrant appears not to be there for the following reasons.

Using tge gps test app from the market:

- it obtained a lock indoors in less tha 5 secs

- it was able to view 8 satellites and obtained a fix from all of them

- accuracy was about 6 metets

- gmt and local times were correct

- speed remained at 0 while the phone was standing still on a desk.

We were not able to replicate any of the above with any of the vibrants sitting next to the epic.

On another note, the compass on the epic appears to be as lame as one of the vibrants. The other vibrant at least pointed to a north-ish direction, although very slow.

Epic gps behavior is comparable to that on the nexus one, which I consider pretty good.
[Vibrant General] boomerbubba:
Two weeks ago, Samsung made the following statement to Engadget (my emphasis added.):

Suspicious observers noted that neither Samsung nor Sprint ever quite said that this "tested and valdiated" GPS software was actually installed on the units shipped yesterday. But they certainly implied it and many customers expected it.

Today, according to one user, Sprint tech support acknowledged that there is a "known issue" with the Epic GPS.
[Vibrant General] whyfish2001:
GPS works intermittantly but rarely when on call

My GPS is very intermittent and rarely (but not never) works when I'm on a call. If the signal strength is weak, the GPS cuts off, but when the signal strength is okay, it can lock on, even when I'm on a call.
[Android Themes] marc22:
I remake FLAT ICONS

PSD included in the archive

FLAT ANDROID

Original icons:FLAT ICONS

Phone Screens

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[Android Themes] zHk3R:
These look great. There's even a Monster icon *happydance*. Good work.
[Android Themes] Pfeffernuss:
Really nice! Thanks a lot!! :cool:
[Galaxy S I9000 General] betoNL:
Yesterday I upgraded my sgs to froyo jpc with kies. I am new with Android but the post of Aery(congrats and thanks) was so clear that i didnt resist: http://xdaforums.com/show...=froyo+upgrade

Froyo is of course better than eclair but Android is still disappointing to me.*EDIT: ( If the official Froyo will be better than jpc so maybe, not that disappointing)*

I miss that proper voice dial/control (over bluetooth or not) and proper connectivity control (network,data,bluetooth and gps) of the old Symbian S60 OS on my lost 5800XM

Some Android fans did say that Symbian is primitive in comparison to Android. Well the first edition of the S60 didnt even have kinectic scrolling or multi-touch( the 5800 doesnt even have a capacitive touch screen), but what do I care about those toying things? I want basic functions working properly out of the box.

Android users have to wait till version 2.2 to get voice dialing over bluetooth and it's there now, but is very crappy.

Could android developers not investigate how Symbian does that?

I have mostly dutch names in mine phone book. Android's 2.2 voice dialing doesnt support the language of the phone if its not one of the 5 or 6 of its list

With symbian voice dialing will talk the phone's language as it should be.

With android voice dialing over bluetooth behaves erractic even in english.

And voice dialing directly at the phone doesnt repeat the names that it processes and it's so buggy and also erractic

With my old Nokia 5800XM, I could keep the phone in my pocket, and while listening to music with the headset, press and hold headset's talk button say a name the device repeats it and by no further action it makes the call; without even having to take phone out of the pocket....It wont happen with my sgs.

My car have bluetooth voice system that works perfectly ansd smoothly with my old 5800xm since the very first edition of the symbian S60, without pre-programing both systems...

Nothing primitive about that

Android developers should yhink about the future. The majority of the consumers don't know or don't have time to tweak a device or a OS or help to develop it. The majority of the users want a smartphone that will do basic functions and perform well out of the box...

Because if an android device will be just about being another expensive toy with cool graphics with cool touch-screen stuff, well, that market belongs to i-Phone.

And in this way, the future is not bright; they need to get a grip

That's my opinion
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
Froyo is still in Beta, the official froyo is not out for the public yet

voice dial works even on 2.1

you can use google voice build in or vlingo free

for data control there is SwitchPro, works great

yes there are still some stuff to polish on Android, it's not perfect, but we are getting there

and i agree the voice dialing is a bit buggy at recognizing the proper command or name to dial even in english
[Galaxy S I9000 General] riz157:
regardless of what your opinion is android is growing stronger by the year and not long before it takes over iphone inmho.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
this is obvious, we are 2 years behind, yet look at the speed we are picking up in such a short time :D

Android Market is full of useful Apps, tools, add ons, and games

i spend a whole week installing apps to see which one was better, as there are times many does the same thing, but some are better designed than other.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AvatarReborn:
For me Android is the cats meow...

I had a Windows Mobile phone (HTC Mogul aka P4000 in Canada) It sucked pretty bad. If it was not for this community that phone would have been useless.

While I've never owned an Iphone, I've had a ipod touch 2nd gen for a while.

Then I got my Galaxy S... I sent a good a amount of time reading about this phone when Samsung announced it. I also sent a good amount of time reading about other HTC android devices along with android itself.

I decided on this phone due to it's specs and how eager the community sounded about it's overall potential.

Sure the iphone has a large following and a very large app store, but it's not nearly customizable as a solid android device with an eager community wanting to constantly push it to it's full potential.

my 2 cents cdn.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] betoNL:
I don't care if Android becomes another "hype" like the i-Phone, because it's "cool" is from Google or stuff like that.

I just want mine quite expensive Android device having the basic functions working properly out of the box.

Can you imagine what's gonna happen when Nokia decides to come up with a real high-end device, and with that I mean real fast processor, lots of Ram and Rom like in the sgs and then running Symbian^3 or Meego? The thing will fly.

That N8 is looking good but comes with the same old arm processor of the N97 just overlocked ( so I heard)

As I said I don't care about the i-Phone and all those suckers paying an abusive price to have a "hype" thing

And I dont care about how strong or rich Google gets. I am not a stock holder and i dont work for Google..do you?

I just wanted mine expensive phone having a good working stock voice dialing system.

If something is not working we have to point it out dont we?

Stop behaving like a fanboy and let them hear us...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] betoNL:
Well, best answer till now. 2 years huh? Just that if you talk about vlingo, google voice search, voice dial of the 2.1 and all those apps on the market, you really should have a look at Symbian voice dialing; it looks like more than 2 years ahead.

Btw, Symbian S60 got it right on its first edition with the 5800XM. and that's very impressive for a phone that costs around 200 euros....

Well, but i like the bigger and brighter screen of the sgs. And its nice sound and good working wifi....but that have nothing to do with Android.....
[Galaxy S I9000 General] BigMango:
Google said that currently only the US English is supported and working for the voice features.

The other accents, like UK English, and the other languages will be coming later.

But the good news with this, is that once the voice features are supported for a language, everything works - not only voice dialing, but also voice search, etc...

So I guess we just need to be patient.... at least google have already shown us that they are working fast.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] betoNL:
Correct me if I'm wrong but Google voice search and the voice dialing within android are 2 different things

The voice dialing in my sgs is powered by the PICO TTS engine that was quite buggy in the eclair and remains buggy in the (beta?) froyo and it is even more unfunctional over bluetooth.

The same engine behaving differently when speaking via BT and when speaking directly to the phone. Even in the standard language

All Google did is install a 3rd party app within the firmware instead of developing a voice engine within the OS.

Or is this Pico app just a temporary thing until google get things done? And where is the article?

Pls enlight me
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mauxian:
Ok seriously if you are that in love with symbian and Nokia why did you buy a new phone. one would assume it was because you were tired of your old one and wanted to try something new that's great that you did, but if your this unhappy quit being a fan boy and just return the damned thing already and get another symbian device

And that's what grinds my gears
[Galaxy S I9000 General] BigMango:
All of the voice actions are going to use the same engine.

I.ex: if you say "Call Joe" or "Navigate to Joe" or "Search for Joe" it's (obviously) the same engine. (but your phone doesn't have this engine yet).

There is a google video showing this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGbYVvU0Z5s , and also a couple news around the web. As I said, only US is working now; the other accents and languages will be coming later. Voice actions is not even included in the international versions yet.

Currently, if you talk with a US accent it is working beautifully. But if you use another language or a UK accent it just falls on its face.

Anyway, once we get voice actions working properly in all of the languages Android will be 2 years ahead of Symbian & Co.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] betoNL:
So I was right, 2 different things, both of them not working properly yet.

Firstly, during annoucements of Android 2.2 with a list of improvements, one of them was bluetooth voice dialing and of course they were reffering to the unfunctional or bad working Pico TTs engine; so bluetooth voice dialing is there but doesnt work properly and that's what I mean when I say "disappointing"

We are talking about the active engine, and not about something that will be ready someday maybe...

The whole issue with voice actions is another story and quite strange as well. What was that about accents?

If I use google voice search and I speak english with my brazilian/dutch accent and it understands me completely and never fails. why online search functions work even with my accent and the other functions won't? And for online search in english I was already usingo Vlingo on my old 5800xm almost 2 years ago

Seems to be it uses exactly the same technology of Vlingo or vice-versa, that means another toy thing.

But this thread has nothing to do with future possible solutions, it's about something that was supposed to work properly right now and it doesnt.

But who knows, our friend AllGamer is right; 2 years is not much and this is just a beta version?

Let's wait and see
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kcharng:
There must be something android did right for you to have so much time to complain and still sticking with it.

What I care about is that android is getting better almost on a daily basis.

Sent from galaxy s. JG4 + oneclick lag fix version 2.3
[Galaxy S I9000 General] BigMango:
Google actions is ready and working great. It was released 1 or 2 months ago.

But currently only US English is supported, this is why you don't have it on your Dutch/Brazilian phone.

There's nothing strange here. You are still using the old system that worked poorly and just don't have the new voice actions engine yet, that's all.

As for accents: UK friends of mine are getting 98+% accuracy (even when dictating SMS) when speaking with a US accent. With a UK accent it fails miserably. But this is normal, as UK English isn't supported yet.

I am not sure if your Vlingo is capable of doing this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGbYVvU0Z5s , and to me this is not a "toy". This is the future, today. Everything done without key input, with voice commands... this is where we are heading.

Seriously, what we have now in US English is really amazing. Of course it still needs to get ironed out and all of the languages need to get supported. But Google is really moving fast.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] betoNL:
Of course. Are you 100% satisfied? Good for you.

Many things are going good, so, I wont complain about what is not going good? What about fake annoucements? Should users not complain about that? .... Critic is also a form of contribution. You can also see it as feedback; so my sgs will get better almost on a daily basis:D

It wont harm your android if you'll be always objective....

I complained just once, the rest are discussions, and that's the essence of a forum right?

Be logical, man
[Galaxy S I9000 General] betoNL:
Again you are talking about the future and I,m talking about now. Are you playing word games?

It was officially announced: Finally voice dialing over bluetooth with Android Froyo 2.2 . Froyo is here, voice dialing over bluetooth can be activated but it's unfunctional...it doesnt work good.

Do you work for Google? So inform it to them.

And I also hope that voice actions will work offline

Cause I only use wifi and no internet in my car.

Proper voice dialing should work offline too

I rest my case
[Galaxy S I9000 General] BigMango:
No. This is not the future. This is today. -> NOW<- and has been working for 1 month already.

For the 3rd time: it works in US English, but you can't install it in the other languages yet. Languages other than US are currently being implemented. FOR THIS REASON: it doesn't work on your Dutch/Brazilian phone, yet.

Of course it works offline (SMS & text dictating, local phone searches & actions) . But everything requiring an internet search (i.ex: google search and maps) will not render any results if you are offline, obviously.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Harts@J:
That is the major flaw of the Android, it is so US centric (so have beena the most other US based, in the beginning).

It took 10 years from Microsoft to understand that

- there is other languages and alphabets in the World than the US English

- not all people uses 12-hour clock and mm/dd/yyyy date format

It took 10 years from programmers to understand that

- the applications should use the op-system date format, there is no need to take than by themselves

The Android is far from perfect, it is moderate even in basics. It is not 2 years behind, it is 5 years behind. My Android date format is dd/mm/yyyy, yesterday I add the birthday to my contacts, the date format is dd.mm.yyyy, why? That is the most stupid thing among other date mass about.

I hate those stupid US things, but I can live with those (for a while). :confused:
[Galaxy S I9000 General] yc1437:
Hi I tense to agree with you, android is still a premature system, for instance the network connectivity switch just terrible with sgs compare to my old n97. And the worst thing sgs has a crap gps like n97
[Galaxy S I9000 General] BigMango:
I don't know what problem you are having with network connectivity. Even on my HTC Kaiser , which is a 3 years old Windows Mobile 6 phone that was not made for android at all, network switching is working perfectly with Froyo.

According to the latest tests posted in the gps threads, this issue seems to be fixed in the latest beta firmware (the official release is scheduled for this month). They compared it with the HTC Hero, the Nexus One and the iphone 4. The SGS tracking is now doing as well, and its getting a lock in about 10 seconds. (check the gps poll thread)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] sturmeh:
Bluetooth functionality is not basic functionality.

It's definitely extra stuff I will probably never use.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kcharng:
My previous post is not an attack but rather an observation. Usually if the phone is an utter ****, then most people would just move on rather than spending precious time to do a write up on the web. :)

For me personally, I never purchase ANYTHING that I am 100% satisfied with, but enough to be happy or excited about, sure.

I think I am rather objective with Galaxy S. As a comparison, I value responsiveness of the OS, big screen, fast CPU, multi-touch and open apps. While Bluetooth and voice commands is very low on my list. But to be fair, Vlingo did a great jobs on voice commands.

just my 2cent.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kcharng:
Good point on an off line voice recognition. One of the main reason I hardly use Vlingo.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] betoNL:
Well, what is not basic for you, can be basic for a lot of users, for example:

I drive a lot for my work or free time; my car have a bluetooth voice system that conects with mobile phones. I can place calls without taking my eyes off the road.

It works with all my old mobile phones that support voice dialing, only that with normal phones you have to pre-program the names with your own voice.

With more modern smartphones, you dont have to pre-program, you just speak with reasonable pronunciation the system recognize the name and place the call (after confirmation depending on the settings)

And you need bluetooth to make safe hands-free calls while driving. That's what voice dialing over bluetooth is all about: safety - not luxury.

It's basic feature for me and for millions of other users and it should be unmissable and work flawless in every high-end smartphone.

But I hope that our Google friend is right: Android users in the USA that got the Froyo 2.2 upgrade can enjoy proper and functional bluetooth voice dialing and users in other countries just have to wait a little longer...

I am a proud owner of the SGS, froyo 2.2 is a real improvement,

the hardware is impressive and that's why I get disappointed if such a basic feature is not working properly...

I f I had a crappy phone I would not care, I would not be disappointed and I definatelly would not be wasting my time in forums.

But the SGS is worthwhile:cool:

By the way, I did a lot of research before buying the sgs; didn't buy it sooner because I knew about the lack of voice dialing over bluetooth support.

When I read the anouncements about the new features of Froyo 2.2 and that an official upgrade would come sooner or later, I went for it.....

You digg?:rolleyes:
[Galaxy S I9000 General] betoNL:
GEEZZ !

That one got everything: 12 mp camera wit xenon led flash, stronger built-in gps receiver, symbian^3 OS with of course proper voice dialing/command support:

http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archive...red_to_sport_4-inch_super_amoled_display.html

Samsung is something...it's gonna kill the Nokia N8 !!!

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[Galaxy S I9000 General] Beowulf_pt:
You'll get no love here from posting that. Most users will just give you the cold "so why did you buy an Android? Go back to Symbian".

I've had an SGS extensively for 2 weeks and in a way agree with your opinion. I felt that the base functionality was rather incomplete. Sure, everything looks pretty and it is a multimedia powerhouse but when it comes to raw functionality it lacked in many ways compared to my Nokia E72 (a primitive S60v3).

I have to admit that I got it to become almost as complete by adding apps. But needed to add a lot of apps to perform stuff that I can do with the E72 after a hardreset. The more apps I added, the more the thing lagged.

Want to have complex profiles/groups settings? Add an app. Want full card+ram encryption? Add an app. Want flexible calendar/reminder alerts? Add an app. Etc...

I can live with that concept tho as it has its advantages (poor core features but better flexiblity and potencial)

What made me return it was the GPS issue (and the lack of proper external GPS support in Android) but in a way I don't miss it except for the multimedia aspects and a few interesting apps like Tasker.

Still, like it or not Symbian is pretty much history. The market decides and Nokia spent too much time sleeping.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
exactly.

in the end people buying Android OS Phones needs more education, or they did not do proper research before buying the phone.

Everytime i buy a new phone i research it throughly, from the basic spec of the phone, to all the software i can throw at it

if the check list comes up ugrly, i'll move on to another phone.

you should well know what you are getting into when you are about to buy Android OS phones

Android OS is still young, obviously it wont have all the "expected" features that all other phones have out of the box.

but that's the great thing about it, you can customize it to do what you want it to do.

if i wanted a phone that did everything out of the box I'll put my money on a BlackBerry instead of a Nokia

both (BB & N) phones are great, both OS are good, both have EXTREMELY limited expandability

but they do what they say will do out of the box, but BB does it better than N