yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Vibrant Android Development] aloxotls:
Reading the Bionix 1.6 thread and he said that he added FFC support to his ROM. That would be great because I was not looking forward to using Eugene's Froyo R3 as my daily.

Ordered mine today and as soon as it comes in I will have an extra here in Houston.
[Vibrant Android Development] backward0:
Ordered mine on the 29th. IT SHIPPED TODAY! just got the email. That's what's up.
[Vibrant Android Development] }{Alienz}{:
If anyone has an extra camera that you're selling, PM me.
[Vibrant Android Development] khushsk:
Has anyone tried it on the captivate, or is anyone planning to? Is there any point?
[Vibrant Android Development] orells:
big bold letters, not flaming, its just old.

THIS WILL NOT WORK FOR CAPTIVATE! NOR FACINATE! YOUR BOARDS ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. IF YOU BOUGHT A CAM, SELL IT. THERE IS NO PLACE FOR A FFC ON THE CAPTIVATE!!!
[Vibrant Android Development] MTC44:
PM me if you have an extra camera (bought the minimum, bought one for captivate...)

I'm interested in trying this. I'll likely break my phone, but whatevs.
[Vibrant Android Development] itsjusttim:
It won't work on the captivate, sorry.
[Vibrant Android Development] itsjusttim:
Ordered mine on the 28th, and mine has been shipped today. Finally!

Edit* After reading the email again... It said that my camera was shipped yesterday. Cool.
[Vibrant Android Development] MTC44:
Have any extras?
[Vibrant Android Development] rjdriver:
I'm Game what he said, I'm in! Just drop me a note as to how much and where payment should be sent can do Pay Pal.
[Vibrant Android Development] PolishDude:
Ordered mine on the 30th, still processing :(
[Vibrant Android Development] itsjusttim:
I ordered 8.. And I might have 1 extra. If I do, its yours.
[Vibrant Android Development] MTC44:
GREAT! keep me posted
[Vibrant Android Development] phantom9000:
anybody in nj ordering because my parents will kill me if i order 3
[Vibrant Android Development] da0ne:
mine says the same
[Vibrant Android Development] blkbltwrestler:
I am in long beach let me know if you are selling your extras
[Vibrant Android Development] creator2456:
We need to start a new thread in General for the buying/selling aspect of this thread. It needs to be development in here so we can get this thing working 100% once they start to arrive.
[Vibrant Android Development] chris071404:
Backward0 and I just received the cameras. Here goes nuthin.

Shot on your face from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
[Vibrant Android Development] MTC44:
VERY true. I'll start it...
[Vibrant Android Development] MTC44:
Any chance you could make a video and upload to youtube? we could start a video how-to. Just a thought, I know a lot of people would appreciate a resource like that.
[Vibrant Android Development] n3moXC05:
If anyone has any extras my brother is looking to get me one for my birthday. Would be awesome to see if the video chat can get going for my girl overseas!
[Vibrant Android Development] MTC44:
buyer/seller page in General

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=8507876#post8507876

Go to the new General thread for buying selling posts. (might I recommend that this gets posted to OP?)
[Vibrant Android Development] jmao:
With the cameras on the way, i was quite excited about installing the FFC since bionix 1.6 came out with support for it. I went over the engadget tear down of the galaxy s just to prepare myself and followed it correctly which was quite easy. But i was wondering what was the best method to use for removing the rubbery paint that covered the camera hole. I know you can use a fiberglass pen or paint removal, but im quite unfamiliar with the fiberglass pen method. How does that work? With the paint removal do we use a brush or can a q tip work as well?
[Vibrant Android Development] creator2456:
Thanks!

VIBRANT FFC BUY/SELL THREAD
[Vibrant Android Development] jroid:
when did u order your cameras?
[Vibrant Android Development] backward0:
The 29th. Video will be uploaded to youtube shortly.
[Vibrant Android Development] scrizz:
Have you even read the whole thread?

It is all explained here with pictures and Text!

:mad:
[Vibrant Android Development] kiapolo:
For the lazy: [YOUTUBE]ra0JROmW4sk&hd=1[/YOUTUBE]
[Vibrant Android Development] rizzxx7:
good ish, shouldn't the op take the drilling part out of the actual directions?
[Vibrant Android Development] backward0:
how to intall

[YOUTUBE][/YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCFe2qSQZGA
[Vibrant Android Development] backward0:
cant delete srry
[Vibrant Android Development] darksandz93:
looks like i wont have to be removing the motherboard.....niceee.....i think i should though, im gonna be using acetone to remove the paint....acetone doesn't play nice with plastic does it?
[Vibrant Android Development] creator2456:
Not at all. You will end up with a goopy mess.
[Vibrant Android Development] backward0:
Image Quality

Hows the image quality on those installed so far?

Mine is marginal at best on the rear, but superb on the FFC using the Mirror app. what up? im wondering if i did anything wrong so i took the i9000 camera out and put the original back in now it works perfect... im curious if its just the cameradata file needs to be updated (for the rear)... im using sombionix 1.6

i put the FFC back in and about to flash eugenes FROYO R3 rom to see if that improves the images. will post back results later this evening.
[Vibrant Android Development] darksandz93:
ahh goo gone it is then
[Vibrant Android Development] gagb1967:
Already ordered 3 in NJ I have 2 for sale
[Vibrant Android Development] creator2456:
Read. Please and thank you.
[Vibrant Android Development] orells:
But can you video chat?
[Vibrant Android Development] aloxotls:
I have mine ordered and I am not going to cut my thumb nail until it gets here.
[Vibrant Android Development] dsellers2:
Ill have two extra FFC in 5-7 days if any one its interested. Please pm me. First two to pm can purchase for cost plus there preferred delivery method.

Also, I would like to understand if any one is experiencing any issues with the rear camera after installation. I have heard the quality is worst with the new camera. Is this true?
[Vibrant Android Development] MINUS Stl:
Just sayin.
[Vibrant Android Development] itsjusttim:
Imo the quality loss won't be a problem. This will be figured out/fixed in no time.

Maybe the settings where set to a lower mp shot. Idk...
[Vibrant Android Development] backward0:
Quality loss on the rear for me. I also believe it is a settings or incorrect data file issue. Pics come out decent but def. Not the same.
[Vibrant Android Development] dmolition:
What did you use to remove the paint?? Maybe it didnt play well with plastic

just a thought
[Vibrant Android Development] cdw9800:
anyone in the bay area i can pay to do the mod pm me
[Vibrant Android Development] itsjusttim:
He is the one who made the video. He used goo gone (from walmart) and a small flat head to scrape out loosened paint.
[Vibrant Android Development] darksandz93:
He said that his rear camera isn't as good as before, I don't think it matters what he used to remove the paint it shouldn't affect the rear camera....FFC is good, rear camera is bad....hmm...
[Vibrant Android Development] backward0:
image quality

so i tried installing eugenes froyo and before i installed the cameradata_front_420sp.yup file i tried out the camera on the rear. same quality its not fuzzy its more of a color distortion (see attatched pic). i think its "useable" and im not sure if im the only one suffering this problem i know the other guy that intalled with me had the same problem, but we put his original back in. (no problems after). i did use goo gone and 90% isopropal to clean up. Im hoping that we just got ahold of a bad pair. i would like some more feedback from the people who have installed (kiapolo) and others to get a better idea if this is something that can be fixed. or if its an isolated incident

pic details (set at 5mp did a camera settings reset before i took the pic.)

See horizontal colored lines running through the pic.
[Vibrant Android Development] dakilla1006:
did u guys remember to take off the stickers on the cameras
[Vibrant Android Development] backward0:
Yep.
[Vibrant Android Development] Esotericman:
Double check for fingerprints and lint on both the lens (inside and out) and the sensor glass. Use only soft cotton (paper's made of wood... wood scratches) to wipe. Camera or glasses lens cleaners should work best.

Otherwise, the sensor is shot - return it.
[Vibrant Android Development] tvargas5248:
excited to try this just hope the rear facing camera still works good cuz I use that a lot too so can someone that gas done it let me know please. Just wanna know what I'm getting myself into before I go all in
[Vibrant Android Development] scrizz:
hehe, no returns accepted

;)
[Vibrant Android Development] dsellers2:
Just sayin.....did you read my post. I was asking a question regarding quality. Now quit trolling if your not going to help the community any. Thanks for those who answered.
[Vibrant Android Development] PolishDude:
i hope its an isolated incident because i need a great rear camera more then i need a ffc
[Vibrant Android Development] Persanity:
They said no returns but if you still want to do the mod I am sure they will do an exchange
[Vibrant Android Development] scrizz:
no they won't.

That's how it is.

straight from the Horse's mouth

source: http://www.globaldirectparts.com/OEM-Samsung-i9000-Camera-Flex-Cable-p/smsng6087125.htm

look at the letters in red.

plus, If you had read the ENTIRE thread, you would realize that was one of the points they stressed.

:rolleyes: ;)
[Vibrant Android Development] Persanity:
Actually, I have read every post on every page in this thread and nowhere does anybody discuss exchanging a defective unit, It was talked about that you can't do a return but an exchange is not a return. If this company won't do an exchange for a defective or faulty FFC module that supposedly went through testing before it was shipped then everybody who ordered them was just screwed over if they all have this issue and it turns out to be hardware and not software. I for one really hope it is software and not hardware.
[Vibrant Android Development] knotphunnie:
Is the camera app on the i9000 similar to the cam on the captivate? I love the capivate app. I watched a YouTube video overview of the i9000 and saw the icon looks like the capivate camera icon. Maybe I just answered my own question.
[Vibrant Android Development] chaoscentral:
it is essentially the same, just with a couple more options. The layout is the same as the Captivate Camera app
[Vibrant Android Development] jwiley904:
Hey I would like to buy one how much are u selling one for
[Vibrant Android Development] creator2456:
Please read/search a thread before posting.
[Vibrant Android Development] knotphunnie:
Excellent. Would hate to give up the superior cam. Y'all are so doggone helpful.
[Vibrant Android Development] orells:
http://www.globaldirectparts.com/QUALITY-ASSURANCE-s/5411.htm

not meaning to insight a riot on returning things but they gotta take it back if defective.

Look For Our Seal Of Quality Assurance

We are the industry “Gold Standard?when it comes to Value and Quality.

We believe value is: competitive price with quality assurance, Guaranteed! Most low priced suppliers do not support the parts they sell. Global Direct Parts knows a low price is not helpful if the parts you get do not work when installed. So we offer competitive prices and quality assurance on every part we sell. We inspect each part before shipping, and we back up our quality assurance with the following guarantee:

If you receive parts from us that are not functional, or are not the parts you ordered, we will replace them at no charge, Guaranteed.
[Vibrant Android Development] scrizz:
k....................
[Vibrant Android Development] Qwijib0:
Here's a gallery of i9000 shots:

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9000_galaxy_s_vs_apple_iphone_4-review-500p4.php

If it's the same camera we should be able to get quality at at least that level.
[Vibrant Android Development] backward0:
I bought mine before they were prompted by impatience to update their return policy. Like I said. I think its useable. but am going to pursue an exchange to see if that helps. It seems to be related to light levels. Full sun the shots look good. Indoors, not so much.
[Vibrant Android Development] D-REW:
Anyone used a video chat app like Fring yet?? Want to hear everyone's thoughts on this mod with actual video chat.
[Vibrant Android Development] Persanity:
Yeah I just called and asked, they offer a warrenty service were you ship them the part and they test it, if they determine its the part they fix it or replace it. They told me the process could tale up to six weeks though.
[Vibrant Android Development] christeeezy:
I would like to know this as well.
[Vibrant Android Development] darksandz93:
i second that....
[Vibrant Android Development] cobra85ec:
it works

just got my cam.. it works.. im using Bionix Rom 1.6.. tango & fring NOT seeing the cam...
[Vibrant Android Development] backward0:
How is the pic quality of the rear camera?
[Vibrant Android Development] codester3388:
How do Night Mode shots look on the rear cam? Is that what you used in the pics?
[Vibrant Android Development] cobra85ec:
not as good as it was.. i see some lines.. im gonna try a differnt cam tomorrow
[Vibrant Android Development] scrizz:
we might just have to bear wit hit until a dev gets their hands on a camera.
[Vibrant Android Development] darksandz93:
So thats 2 people with lines on their rear camera? hopefully this is software related...
[Vibrant Android Development] NikolaiT:
Not random at all. I agree with you that the op is going through hell to get this together and perhaps the $30 price tag is reasonable for him but other random people selling through paypal are unreasonable.
[Vibrant Android Development] smitty152:
Has anyone done this to thier phone yet. It sounds like a great idea.
[Vibrant Android Development] MichaelB91:
Read the thread... its all there.
[Vibrant Android Development] NikolaiT:
After hearing about a few quality issues I recommend this: Wipe the lens with a microfiber cloth before installing it, then put it under a lamp to check for scratches.
[Vibrant Android Development] nsavani:
Can anyone confirm if the ffc works with the app "tango video calls". Its free on the market.
[Vibrant Android Development] codester3388:
This was one page back
[Vibrant Android Development] PolishDude:
So anyone make a video call yet? I know some people installed them in 2s
[Vibrant Android Development] orells:
Read the thread guy
[Vibrant Android Development] hockeyrcks9901:
Can someone post a picture of how the front of the phone looks after removing the paint and can you tell how you did the removal? I'm totally willing to void my warranty but if it looks like a hack job, I'm not sure if I'll do it.
[Vibrant Android Development] creator2456:
Wow...look in the OP and search the thread. There's a link to a youtube video with the whole process hidden (not really hidden) in there.
[Vibrant Android Development] Droidicus:
Dude, you need to setup an auto posting program...every other post in this thread asks something that was already discussed.

PEOPLE! START FROM THE BEGINNING AND READ THE THREAD. THANK YOU.

See, the irony is that no one wants to read the thread because its so long. But it's all the repetitive posts that make it long...
[Vibrant Android Development] hockeyrcks9901:
Sarcastic reply not necessary...

The youtube video was titled as "Preparation". I wasn't interested in prepping the phone, I thought the video was basically a disassembly video.

I'm watching it now but it takes forever to load on the slow connection at my father-in-laws house.

The OP shows a picture of the FFC hole but does not state the specific method used to remove the paint. It mentions a few different methods. I really like the way that hole looks but I want to make sure that the method used for that, is the same that I use.

And, I missed the pictures posted by another user. I don't know about you, but quickly skimming through 750 posts...you miss things. I'm not going to take 3 hours to read every single post when there is that many. I'll skim through but again, things will be missed.
[Vibrant Android Development] turtleoftime:
There is also an app called qik. Those with cams installed should give that a try
[Vibrant Android Development] chaoscentral:
I made that video, it does show the basic disassembly(plus a few extra steps to avoid any mishaps if you use too much goo gone)

But I took that video after I actually removed the paint, but the process is very straight forward and simple, and is detailed in the annotations in the movie.

essentially after opening it,

Grab a bunch of cotton swabs, goo gone, and a small philips screw driver

Soak a side of the cotton swab in the goo gone, the swish it around inside the camera hole. Swish it around for a good 30 seconds or so, then switch to the other side of the cotton swab to remove any excess

Repeat this about 2-3 times, then with the small screw driver, start chipping away at the remaining paint carefully so you don't scratch the glass.

The repeat this entire process until all the paint is removed. It may take a few passes, and it may take 30-45 minutes depending on how you do it(took me about 40)

After all the paint is removed and you can see out of it, grab one last cotton swab and spray a little windex on the end, then swab out the hole, and take the other side and dry it out.

You should end up with a perfectly round circle.
[Vibrant Android Development] cobra85ec:
Qik DON'T work... I try already....
[Vibrant Android Development] Persanity:
Does Z-devicetest recognize the FFC?
[Vibrant Android Development] jamez243:
Wow this thread just died. I guess everyone is just waiting on their cameras?
[Vibrant Android Development] ProStreetCivic:
can someone try Fring! Would love to see it work with that
[Vibrant Android Development] turtleoftime:
Fring, Qik, Tango do not work at this time. I think it may have something to do with the camera software.
[Vibrant Android Development] chaoscentral:
idk if it's just that though. Those apps usually have like a list of whitelisted "vdieo chat capable" phones. If the phone will show up as an SGH-T959 it will probably never work. however if we could fool the apps into thing its a GT-I9000 we would probably be all set.
[Vibrant Android Development] eortizr:
but fring does work with the regular camera....
[Vibrant Android Development] PolishDude:
I have been reading this thread, so far it seems the only thing that works is the mirror app, no?
[Vibrant Android Development] cobra85ec:
cams to sell

i have some cams 4 sale....

25 a pop nyc area...pm me
[Vibrant Android Development] creator2456:
read before posting
[Vibrant Android Development] rudeguy:
OK...I'll be that guy.

Just to clarify: I have a Samsung Vibrant with Tmobile USA. If I buy one of these parts and do this mod, I can have a front facing camera?

Where does it come through on the front?
[Vibrant Android Development] chaoscentral:
yes, but it did before this whole FFC thing.

If the hardware was marked as a GT-I9000 instead of an SGH-T959, I have a feeling that it would give you the option to switch cameras
[Vibrant Android Development] paradox4286:
Read the thread
[Vibrant Android Development] castro_OO:
Come on man for real? Read the thread...

Samsung Vibrant 1.6 Bionix/Voodoo on Zeam Launcher
[Vibrant Android Development] memorito:
That was kind of overreacting. I have been following this thread pretty

closely and I missed that link. Is it part of the original post now?
[Vibrant Android Development] memorito:
So, back on topic. It looks like the Replacement Rear Camera might not be as good as the stock one. I am picking mine up as soon as I shower. I don't want to offend a another user with my b.o. when he has been cool enough to order the part. Thank you Cobra!

Those that have both cameras in front of them, how complicated would it be to switch out the rear camera from the camera assembly? Crazy soldering? different contacts? Anything weird? Thanks.

Memo
[Vibrant Android Development] cobra85ec:
no Crazy soldering.. its as easy as pluging your phone to charge.... but u have to open the phone thats the only hard part...lol just be careful
[Vibrant Android Development] rudeguy:
what's a thread?

You do realize that it would have taken less time to just answer my 2 simple and direct questions?

You idiots that do this are what drives people away from the Android community. And yes I called you an idiot. Would jackass have been more accurate?
[Vibrant Android Development] junkdruggler:
Don't be that guy... Read the op its got pictures and everything.. Sorry the pop-up book is still in the printing stage...
[Vibrant Android Development] jamez243:
I will say that I hate when I ask a simple question and people are rude to me saying **** like "READ BLAH BLAH BLAH SEARCH"

That being said.... I do think that before anyone posts something they should read the VERY FIRST post, and then if looking for something click search the thread for whatever they are looking for.

But I don't think we need to be rude if someone doesn't do this. We could politely tell them that it is located in the first post or wherever it is. I won't lie some threads are so long and even searching brings hundreds of results so I could understand if they have a simple question it's just easier to ask ya know?

:)
[Vibrant Android Development] scrizz:
with an attitude like that..... you're not gonna get far....

;)
[Vibrant Android Development] scrizz:
I understand and agree to a certain extent.

Now that being said.

The posters question is obviously meant to start a flame war...

I mean

come on

There are even Pictures and video showing you how to do it.

what difference would it make if i typed up some directions.

They are already there in text, pictures, and video(w/audio).....
[Vibrant Android Development] darksandz93:
can anyone confirm whether the crappy rear camera is a software issue or hardware issue?
[Vibrant Android Development] codester3388:
What he was trying to ask is if there is a way to take the rear camera on the vibrant and swap it with the rear camera on the i9k camera assembly. I'm guessing the flex cable slides into the assembly somewhere in the little box but if its soldered.... i'm sure not many people are willing to take apart the vibrant cam to see how its connected to the cable. I'm sure it would be more trouble then it is worth.
[Vibrant Android Development] scrizz:
we're still waiting for the devs to actually get their cameras.....

ppl need to have patience.....
[Vibrant Android Development] backward0:
Im gonna check that out actually if its just a connector ill try it. More than likely its soldered but worth a look.
[Vibrant Android Development] cobra85ec:
There is nothing to solder at all... Its just a connection..
[Vibrant Android Development] scrizz:
you haven't understood the question.

he's not asking about the entire camera assembly, he's asking about the square piece(the actual rear camera).
[Vibrant Android Development] darksandz93:
chillax dude just a question my camera isn't coming in for another 2-3 weeks
[Vibrant Android Development] wadie:
flash

how about adding a camera flash to this phone can that work:confused:
[Vibrant Android Development] backward0:
I was talking about combining the two cameras. :)
[Vibrant Android Development] memorito:
Looks like a big fat no. unless we can go into the actual camera box. The little metal one has clips around it. but i think it's too late and I'm too tired to try.
[Vibrant Android Development] gordon.mott:
Wasn't really paying attention. I don't know anything about designing logic for image processing.

Further research yields that the part in question is the

NEC MC-10170... NOT to be confused with NEC Part No 10170.

The rest of my statement rings true. You do not need this chip. You need this ASSEMBLY. Two entirely different things.