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[Vibrant Accessories] AlexSochi8:
To clear rumors or to be very specific!

I took off my t-mobile screen protector yesterday and to day discovered a deep scratch on the "gorilla glass"...

To be very clean. Im very very verrrryy careful with my electronics and never damaged any in anyway! But its how how people say you can stratch it with keys or pens or put it in a bad with bolts and screws and the glass wont be scratched.

It false advertisement because i had my vibrant in an empty pocket fresh dry cleaned too! no dust and anything inside to cut it.

I had many average phones where i only got a tiny scratch on the screen from the phone falling from my hand after 2yrs of use and landing on concrete...

its funny how this glass gets scratched up very deeply without being dropped or scrapped at! and its a scratch for sure because when i move my thumb on it pressed i can feel the sharp line of the scratch on my thumb

Maybe there is a big misunderstanding, maybe only euro galaxy S phones have the gorilla glass... because this sure doesnt!

So for those who want to go naked!!! DOOOOOONT! buy a screen protector!
[Vibrant Accessories] samoelito:
man... although a simple glass wont scratch with nothing in your pocket..

Maybe someone touched it when you didnt know, or something happened.

I've been using my vibrant for about three weeks now and have no scratches, only some marks on the battery cover.
[Vibrant Accessories] cthach11:
The samsung vibrant does indeed have gorilla glass. Just because it has gorilla glass doesn't mean its un -scratchable. It just means it's more resistant than regular glass...if you don't mind me asking...what did you have in your pockets? A machete? A light saber?!...I kid, I kid...the morale of this story is, get a screen protector, prevent your vibrant from getting scathed by a light saber!

Sent from my messenger rabbit
[Vibrant Accessories] kolyan:
whether it has Gorilla glass or not, this is the FIRST phone that ended up with deep scratch only after a month of use.

I really dont care, i got it replaced and finally bought screen protector that i really like. (anti glare and anti fingerprint)
[Vibrant Accessories] Goog1e Phone:
People should seriously invest into realook, it's only ten bucks and you won't even know it's on. But don't take my word for it or the other hundred posts here on xda that claim the same thing.

Sent from my SGH-T959
[Vibrant Accessories] j0hnZ:
Have you seen any video's posted, I'm interested n anti-glare and anti-fingerprint but with the realooks you can't really tell its on style. I know, it's probably a lot to ask for.
[Vibrant Accessories] kolyan:
with anti-glare and anti-fingerprint you will always tell that its there. i personally dont like reflective screens or screen protectors so my anti-glare and anti-fingerprint work great.
[Vibrant Accessories] funeralthirst:
lol. this phone isn't fragile, you must have done something. no way the phone got scratched being in a pocket with nothing else in it. unless you walked that pocket into the corner of a desk or something...

my phone's been without screen protector or case since release with no scratches or blemishes.
[Vibrant Accessories] spigatelli:
+1 not a scratch.
[Vibrant Accessories] PaiPiePia:
Real Gorilla Glass takes alot to scratch. The ZuneHD is known to have the Gorilla Glass. My ZuneHD has been naked since the day I brought it and today it is still scratch free. It is possible our Samsung Vibrant does not have the Gorilla Glass as part of carrier modification to cu cost. who knows.
[Vibrant Accessories] kboater:
that sucks man, i would be pissed too.

but what did it get scratched on? must have had something in your pocket with it...?
[Vibrant Accessories] iunlock:
Interesting post...I'm actually a screen protector freak and have ordered multiple brands of screen protectors for the Vibrant (actually even Galaxy S just to try it...) so I'm all FOR screen protectors...best one so far is from Korea.

About your scratch...unless there's a scratch fairy, there is SOMETHING that caused that scratch. It may be foreign to you because you may not have known when it happened...It's highly possible someone else without your knowledge was the cause of it. Scratches just don't appear out of thin air...

Bottom line...the glass on the Samsung is solid...very solid...I've dropped my phone before so I know first hand how durable the glass is...it's some tough $#!t....
[Vibrant Accessories] jz9833:
Its just the way of the world. If you put a screen protector on, soon after you take it off your will get scratched.

If you put it in a case, soon after you take it off you'll drop your phone. Call it karma, or just dumb luck, but it always seems to happen this way
[Vibrant Accessories] kolyan:
If someone can do a key test we all can find out for sure :)
[Vibrant Accessories] JeremyNT:
I've put this phones in my pocket with keys many times, dropped it several times, not a scratch yet. Whatever it's made of, it's pretty tough.
[Vibrant Accessories] AlexSochi8:
just to say this... like many people who were surprised by vibrant getting scratched so easily... Im on of them too! Because in theory if it has gorilla glass its suppose to be a lot tougher than average glass! I understand its not un-scratchable but it deff got scratched very easily being that i had nothing in my pockets! and that whenever it did recieve that scratch it wasnt from something really bad because i would of noticed it... since the phone is around me all the time!

So if any kind souls who believe this is a gorilla screen please demonstrate it for us on a video.... Take a key and scratch it the glass around and we'll see then....
[Vibrant Accessories] ram100987:
I don't use a sp, but my phone still looks brand new.. No sp, no case, usually keep my phone in my pocket when walking around. Screen is still smooth a glass. Could samsung have used different materials depending on when it was built, kind of like the problem with the shortage if amoled screens?
[Vibrant Accessories] jkcheng122:
I actually dropped my phone on one of those concrete roads in a way that send the phone sliding on the concrete several feet face down. All 4 corners of the phone's bezel show scratches but nothing on the screen itself.
[Vibrant Accessories] daddysays:
I agree 100%!!!!

I put my first one on backwards and complained to them about not having standard directions. (You take the plastic covers off in reverse?) I did not read the instructions, but they still sent me three free new ones.

Great company, great screen protectors.
[Vibrant Accessories] daddysays:
I would never personally do this, and a 3 dollar screen protector to protect the integrity of a very sweet piece of equipment, is a very small price to pay.

I just find it hard to believe that with only cloth surrounding it it got scratched. Not even lint in your pocket? I call BS

LOL
[Vibrant Accessories] Jed Dignazio:
Bottom line is anything harder than Gorilla glass which has a hardness between 6+7 will scratch the surface.

Iron, steel, nickel, lead, gold, silver or any medal are softer (1-5) than gorilla glass, so they should not scratch the glass.

On the other hand, sand contains quartz and it could scratch gorilla glass, for example when sand is in your pockets (after a walk on the beach).

One more thing:

a common misconception is: 'make something sharp and it will scratch'. it's wrong. you can make your fingernail or your key as sharp as possible, it is still softer than the glass and it will not scratch.

So, no, keys wont scratch it (steel), but anything harder than 7 on the scale will with no problem. So anybody that has no scratches obviously hasnt made contact to the screen with anything harder than a 7 on this scale.

Hardness	Substance or mineral

0.2–0.3	caesium, rubidium

0.5–0.6	lithium, sodium, potassium

1	talc

1.5	gallium, strontium, indium, tin, barium, thallium, lead, graphite

2	hexagonal boron nitride,[10] calcium, selenium, cadmium, sulfur, tellurium, bismuth

2.5 to 3	magnesium, gold, silver, aluminium, zinc, lanthanum, cerium, Jet_(lignite) (lignite)

3	calcite, copper, arsenic, antimony, thorium, dentin

4	fluorite, iron, nickel

4 to 4.5	platinum, steel

5	apatite, cobalt, zirconium, palladium, tooth enamel, obsidian (volcanic glass)

5.5	beryllium, molybdenum, hafnium

6	orthoclase, titanium, manganese, germanium, niobium, rhodium, uranium

6 to 7	glass, fused quartz, iron pyrite, silicon, ruthenium, iridium, tantalum, opal

7	quartz, vanadium, osmium, rhenium

7.5 to 8	hardened steel, tungsten, emerald, spinel

8	topaz, cubic zirconia

8.5	chrysoberyl, chromium, silicon nitride

9-9.5	corundum, silicon carbide (carborundum), tungsten carbide, titanium carbide, stishovite

9.5–10	rhenium diboride, tantalum carbide, titanium diboride, boron nitride, boron [11][12][13]

10	diamond

>10	nanocrystalline diamond (hyperdiamond, ultrahard fullerite)
[Vibrant Accessories] Darkakuma:
I was just going to say that. Wouldn't have been as detailed though but yes, bottom line is that anything harder than the gorilla glass will scratch it.
[Vibrant Accessories] tjhart85:
If you managed to rip through a screen protector and the gorilla glass, then I fail to see how it's Samsungs fault! Maybe you should contact the company you got the screen protector from.

Maybe you should be careful with the things you buy.

It's not exactly hard to make sure you only put things in your pocket that'll touch the back of the phone.
[Vibrant Accessories] nevrlow:
rocking no screen protector on my vibrant for the past 4 months. zero scratches/marks
[Vibrant Accessories] stumpyz9:
Accidentally found out how helpfully gorilla glass is the other day, was sanding some stuff with some cheap-o sandpaper and hot the grit everywhere. I set my phone down on it and didn't know stuff was there untilled I picked it up and saw stuff undernieth it. I was sure it would be scratched but it wasn't.
[Vibrant Accessories] BenKranged:
As posted earlier in this thread all it takes is one grain of sand in your pocket to get micro scratches or worse. And sand isn't only in beaches/deserts, its pretty much everywhere.
[Vibrant Accessories] gamikzone:
10 months here no scratches or marks either :D
[Vibrant Accessories] JackieRose:
My brother has had his Vibrant naked since August of last year and not a single scratch on it. My friend had her Vibrant 1 week and while she was tying her daughter's shoe (low to the ground) the phone fell out of her pocket and her screen shattered. I was surprised at the amount of damage done by such a small fall. I was sure to by a tough case and screen protector as soon as I got mine, I'm not taking any chances
[Vibrant Accessories] hahahaclneo:
Ive had no screen protector for almost a year andno scratches untill yesterday, had my phone,cigs and lighter in my pocket and i guess it was too much because the wheel must have rubbed against the screen because now i have a small but very noticable scratch:mad:
[Vibrant Accessories] olddirtygerm:
I've never used a screen protector or a case and I keep my phone in the same pocket with whatever change I have. even after a almost a year and a few drops there I isn't a single scratch on mine.
[Vibrant Accessories] Androidwhiz:
Gorilla glass is scratch resistant NOT scratch proof. Secondly They never advertised the vibrant to have gorilla glass. Lastly If you had nothing in your pocket nothing could scratch it. I have been using my vibrant for a year now without screen protector. Yeah my phone has scratches on the screen, but far less than most phones would. The person who started this thread should not be allowed to reproduce!:mad:
[Vibrant Accessories] AlexSochi8:
guys close this post... yes i know now vibrant has gorilla glass i wrote this a year ago when it wasnt clear!!!!
[Vibrant Accessories] secret_tidus:
my xt720 also have gorrila glass... i think it is good... using almost 1 and half year w/out screen protector only got 1 fine scratch near search button.. the glass also quite strong and donot crack after falling twice at height of 2m.
[Vibrant Accessories] duboi97:
Screw this "gorilla glass " I put it in my pocket for 30 minutes takes it out and my screen cracks wtf? My bezel around the phone is perfect but my literally cracked for not reason.
[Vibrant Accessories] nevrlow:
Hmmm. Were you doing a physical activity or something with ur phone in ur pocket? Ive never seen a screen breqk from just having it in ur pocket.

sent from my Sensation XD
[Vibrant Accessories] duboi97:
Nope it was literally just in there and its cracked. My bezel is still perfect and I haven't dropped it at all.
[Vibrant Accessories] Cerv3r:
There are more important things to worry about than a scratch on a screen. For God's sake.. It's only a phone!
[Vibrant Accessories] Jed Dignazio:
Yea, a $600 phone, and your kinda forced to look at the screen to use it, so yea, kinda important IMO.
[Vibrant Accessories] Frito37:
Ive dropped it many times 3 or 4 feet on cement not a single scratch on my screen and i have had it over a year.

Though my usb slot is broke and so is my sdcard slot and I had to hard wire my charger to my battery/phone...... lol

BUT DAMNIT my screen looks perfect...

(btw im not kidding :( )
[Vibrant Accessories] nevrlow:
True story. My vibrant never had a screen protector and never had a scratch.

sent from my Sensation XD
[Vibrant Accessories] RepusJonathan:
On a side note, I heard there was a tradeoff between gorilla glass and screen display quality ...ex: I heard the super amoled screens of the galaxy s2 are nice but easily scratched.

Is this true? If so that's a serous consideration for me when buying my next phone.
[Vibrant Accessories] ckegg:
+1, used for 2 years and still no scratches at all, always put at jeans pocket and heavy uses at work
[Vibrant Accessories] Nullnvoyd:
+1 I have yet to have a screen protector on my device and I also have had mine for 2+ years without a scratch. I have dropped it on asphalt, cement, in and out of my pocket, with and without keys etc... Not a scratch. Now the Phone shell is not so pretty anymore but....
[Vibrant Accessories] ShadowDice9100:
shoot myb you got the black sheep screen during assembly :eek:, mine has fallen, keys hit it, fork fell on it runned over by a shopping cart, dog bit it and ran around the house and mine screen looks like the st day i got it
[Vibrant Accessories] iKoolkid:
This is a 2yo topic, WHY REPLY JUST NOW?
[Vibrant Accessories] theMODEL22:
I ought the vibrant realook and it didn't fit properly, complained and the sent me four more.... All had a minor defect or two
[Vibrant Accessories] theMODEL22:
A-G and A-F severely reduce the clarity of the screen... making it look like the EVO or X
[Vibrant Accessories] Yellow C6:
I'll make a video of keying the screen with keys and nails if you can make a video and reproduce a scratch by simply putting it in your empty pocket.
[Vibrant Accessories] PaiPiePia:
That's like saying you will drive off a cliff if he can run someone over with a flying car...... :mad: so pointless.
[Vibrant Accessories] 30Glock:
I call complete BS on the OP, I have gone naked since release of this phone and the glass is perfect completely in new out the box condition, Post a pic of the scratch otherwise this thread is BS.
[Vibrant Accessories] AllGamer:
see the links in my siggy?

the drop test is also a scratch test

but as the OP said, maybe it only applies to the NON USA variants
[Vibrant Accessories] pavvy:
That is quite the evolution! (What's the 3rd from the right, looks like a mini-laptop?)
[Vibrant Accessories] Fuse8499:
lol why hasn't this thread been closed yet? This is RIDICULOUS!!! This guy is pretty much claiming that the glass scratched itself. WTF?!?! Maybe you got drunk and smashed your leg into a wall or something. No way the scratch "just happened'
[Vibrant Accessories] tissimo:
I've tried scratching mine with a key, nothing. I dont use a screen protector and have zero scratches. I also use a pocket sleeve case (the old G1 Sleeve) though.

Maybe your girl used the phone and dragged it acrossed her ear with a diamond earring on?
[Vibrant Accessories] zaduma:
I work in a factory and keep my screen naked. No problems and we make concrete block.. Very hard and rocks everywhere.
[Vibrant Accessories] RickCain:
I say it was bad luck. Mine has been naked since launch day with zero scratches.
[Vibrant Accessories] N8ter:
I have a case but no screen protector. I don't pocket the phone at all. No way can a screen get scratched in an empty pocket. That's like saying u held the phone up and the wimd stabbed yoir screen. Seriously?! It both impossible and laughable. OP isn't even close to being believable...
[Vibrant Accessories] DBlake79:
I am a DSA-State inspector for schools, I got this phone when it came out... It goes in my pocket with no case no SP,

and dirt sand what ever is in my pocket from a constrution site here in Ca. And it looks brand new.... Not one mark of any kind... Same job site, my G1 did not do so well even with a SP, I replaced my G1 two times, I love this phone!
[Vibrant Accessories] ELStiko:
OP said that the scratch is sharp. Sharp to the point if he runs his thumb over the scratch that it feels sharp.

To me that indicates that an object of sharpness was run across the screen. Something like a razorblade... And If I understand, gorilla glass is not blade proof.
[Vibrant Accessories] talltexan:
Correct a box cutter was the only item able to scratch the screen.
[Vibrant Accessories] Kag:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3by5u9ax2EU#t=180 <-- it isn't blade proof

i would say, just very unlucky.

might have hit something which was harder than gorilla glass or something.
[Vibrant Accessories] Apexsilverevo:
That sucks man, i went and picked up the Invisible Shield from my local mall, 24.95 installed with a lifetime warranty... Had it on my iPhone and it never failed! Also for a case I picked up the one from the TMobile store that is clear plus it has the built in kickstand which is awesome.
[Vibrant Accessories] techboydino:
Just to be clear, I have a friend employed by corning and the Vibrant is indeed Gorilla Glass.
[Vibrant Accessories] defconoi:
FYI, screen is plastic

i've spoken to 3 different agents at tmobile that have confirmed the screen is plastic and isnt scratch proof or near scratch proof, its not glass at all.

I just scratched mine pretty bad in my pocket, one of my keys were a bit sharper than others. Be careful. Anyone know of any ways to cover a little scratch? or hide it?
[Vibrant Accessories] lolcopter:
why anyone would put keys in the same pocket as a $500 phone is beyond me
[Vibrant Accessories] Steeltippin:
I agree, I never put my vibrant in the same pocket with keys, coins, metal period.
[Vibrant Accessories] pavvy:
This CANNOT be true...
[Vibrant Accessories] djkdawg:
i put my phone in my pocket, with keys, nuts, bolts and screws, and i have had this phone "naked" since day one and i do not have a scratch on my screen :D , remember the screen is scratchable by all means, but you would have to apply some pressure, and to get a deep gash, you must have applied alot of pressure, do you wear tight jeans ? or did you stick it in your back pocket ??
[Vibrant Accessories] defconoi:
yea, tight jeans, all I did was bend down to pick something up and it gashed it. I got a warranty replacement coming for another issue so im not worried, gonna get a realook screen protector for that one. Just giving a heads up that the screen isnt scratch proof like I thought it was. I saw the youtube video of the bolts n drops and didnt care about 4 keys in my pocket lol. I think change would do the same. Also I noticed there are micro scratches, when you put the phone up to super bright sunlight. Its not noticeable indoors, you gotta look at it with an angle
[Vibrant Accessories] defconoi:
sorry but it is true, call tmobile in providence pa, that is where the tmobile reps said that, also with the deep ass scratch in my phone, it doesnt seem like glass, my g1 screen never scratched this bad, its deep from a key in my pocket with some pressure
[Vibrant Accessories] pavvy:
Are you sure you have, uh, a real Vibrant? This seems like a silly point of contention, but the screen on mine is unmistakably glass...(?)
[Vibrant Accessories] Aphotix:
The reps at T-Mobile won't know what the screen on a phone is made out of, the company doesn't distribute that kind of information, they'd have to read the news and look it up outside of work, and few will be motivated enough to do that.

There is no care center in Providence, PA. There is a tech support center in Allentown though.
[Vibrant Accessories] Devhux:
Perhaps there was a manufacturing defect with his Vibrant that caused the glass to crack/scratch easily. Honestly, after 5 pages of claiming "it can't happen; the OP must be lying" I'm surprised nobody else mentioned this.
[Vibrant Accessories] wolfvgang:
Bwah ha ha ha

They must have received the same training our local Arizona t-mobile reps had.

They told me I couldn't buy one off E-bay, unlock it, root it, and then use it without getting a new, more expensive contract.
[Vibrant Accessories] cnpthe3rd:
no way this phone is fragile AT ALL I keep it in my pocket all the time with sawdust tile thinset and all kinds of dust and debris not a scratch any place the only "protection" it has is a "skin" from unique skins with a picture of a dragon the skin has a little bit of skuffs on it but nothing on the phone or screen
[Vibrant Accessories] johnnyh64:
I couldn't agree more. I must admit that many numerous times I thought I scratched my screen only to find that after a good rub down, it was just a smear that looked exactly like a deep scratch or two. For those that see scratches you should try to really rub the glass down with a soft cloth and see if goes away.

I keep mine in my pocket with all kinds of junk and I do it with no protection on it, and it is as pristine as the day I bought it so I don't know what's going on with some of your phones.
[Vibrant Accessories] talltexan:
can you upload a pic of your skin? I am curious on the back does it wrap around or just stop at the bevel?
[Vibrant Accessories] SeanFloyd:
Not to jinx it or anything like that but I also have been rocking the phone with no screen protector since launch and have no scratches.
[Vibrant Accessories] Netphase:
I dropped my Vibrant face down on some rocky asphalt with no screen protector and the bezel got a couple rock marks on it, but the screen is still perfect.
[Vibrant Accessories] skater4690:
This impossible to be plastic lol t-mobile people are idiots hahaha glass can chip it is possible and plus plastic can't shatter... and if it were plastic it wouldn't feel as smooth as it does there would be more resistance and kinda feel like an invisasheild was on there...
[Vibrant Accessories] Sapient Prophet:
I've carried my phone around in my pocket with coins, pens and keys. Still, no scratch. I'm just too careless sometimes. I figure, if it scratches... that's life. The day after I got my phone I was thinking about getting a screen protector. I went to the T-Mobile store and did a key test on the display. I was going to get a video, but was foiled by a store employee. After the employee was reassured that I already had a Vibrant and wasn't trying to steal the display, I polished the finger prints off of it and no scratches. From then on, I've been a bit more carefree. Although, the back is scratched up quite a bit. Oh, and Gorilla Glass and it's competitors are a type of ceramic. What I'm saying is, if you scratched yours (and I believe it's totally possible) you had to have gone above and beyond the ordinary scratching means. Oh, and if dropped... even Gorilla Glass will shatter, like a spider web crack. I've seen one of my best friend's iphone4 on it's corner. Front and back cracked. Either way, thank goodness for insurance.

btw... I've had the Vibrant since release date
[Vibrant Accessories] BossDj:
I was scared this weekend when I reached into my pocket and discovered my bic lighter was pressed against the naked face of my vibrant, rolling around against each other for God knows how long. A close inspection in the sunlight and a good buffing with a clean cloth, not a mark on the screen. I am sorry to hear about the op's damage, but I believe in gorilla glass like fish believe in water