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[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dglowe343:
A few years ago my friend did a cannonball into the pool and realized mid-air that his phone was still in his pocket. I'll never forget the expression on his face.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] posguy99:
No, all red is a triggered indicator. The red pattern is so that you can't bleach the indicator and lie about what happened.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] martyzidek:
I have tried the rice thing.. takes too long. My to2 I have dropped in the toilet (fell out of my sweatshirt front pocket while lifting to take a leak) fell in a puddle and a beer poured on it. Stick works great. What I did is present over to 200 degrees. Once presented place phone without battery and back onto middle rack onto if a cloth. Leave for an hour. Check phone to see if water is in screen. Repeat process 2-4 times.

With the rice I had a problem of dust and rice stuck on phone. Hard to get out of cracks. Also you can go to Sprint and say your battery isnt working without your phone if with your phone after you don't the oven trick. They should replace it. If they see that its been water damage tell them you had a lol brother or sister take your battery out and found it like that. They prob will check to see if phone works with new one and should. Good luck.. this saved me plenty of times. The tp2 was from us cellular and did battery exchanges no questions asked.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] martyzidek:
Your battery might of shorted out. When you put back together charge first because the water drains the charge. If it doesn't work after a charge you need a new battery.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nicholaaaas:
i dont know that i ever saw an oven that has a temp below 200
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] apristel:
Be smarter than the over....crack the door.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MJStephens:
My oven goes all the way down to 100 :cool:
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Alanmw86:
Not reccomended but....at my store's service in repair we didnt go off just indicators alone, altho the motherboard one is fairly hard to say it didnt get soaked to.

butt the battery and outside one yes, If you tear the phone down and clean off the corrosion most of the time the phone will function fine after that.

Second benefit is that if there is no corrosion then we normally replace the phone in store anyway.

YMMV

anyway if it cant be saved via standard preventative stuff time to make an insurance claim :-(
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] e1allen:
Not sure if this method will work for everyone but it worked for my old Nokia phone. I washed it with a load of laundry and dried it in the dryer. Found the phone in the dryer, wouldn't turn on so I pulled the battery and stuck it back in, phone worked great after that.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SilverZero:
So, in addition to heating it up you're suggesting letting the phone tumble around in the dryer for an hour? I'd advise throwing it in the oven over that. No offense intended, of course. :)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] e1allen:
Well, I would also recommend keeping it in the pocket it stayed in while washing and using a dryer sheet to prevent static from damaging the phone. Plus I think the gentle banging around prevents the water from building up in one spot. ;)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Crotchety:
Bet it tasted like chicken after it was done :D
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Crotchety:
Wow, you're either a true friend or a true perv, touching her pissy poopy toilet water phone parts :rolleyes:
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TickLe MY eLMo:
Well, i decided since there was water under the screen that wasn't drying up, i threw it in the oven to dry the rest of it up(low low temps of course), and it's starting to clear up. Will try tomorrow putting in the battery after i am sure all of the water has dried up, will report back then. Wish me luck, if worst comes to worst, i will try some of the methods named in here when it comes to bringing the phone in.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] martyzidek:
The oven thing works. Make sure to charge the battery since the water discharged the charge the battery had. It might not hold a charge anymore. Get a new battery before you think it doesn't work (as in the phone) best of luck man..
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nicholaaaas:
that just means you'll use more gas to maintain the lowest setting
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] apristel:
I'm sure it will lower the temp.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nicholaaaas:
would you run your heater with windows open?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TickLe MY eLMo:
So, did the heater thing, all of the water dried up and it worked! I nearly pissed myself when it turned on, feels like the vibration is a bit weaker that it used to be, but that doesn't really matter. Thanks to whoever suggested the oven idea, and all the help others gave me!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MJStephens:
My haptic feedback seemed to have a few hiccups here and there for a few days after I dried mine out. But hopefully yours will work itself out too. Glad it worked for ya :-)
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LiquidSolstice:
Yes, yes, I know, Sense is not compatible yet with our MDPI devices (or something like that). I'm asking if its just the Sense Launcher/Widgets that are the issue or is it the apps (Clock app/Weather/Calender app) that are the issue?

I ask because the only thing stopping me from moving to Froyo is the lack of being able to use those apps. Especially the clock app, that's the most important to me. The HTC Sense Clock app beats the PANTS off of anything that the AOSP one is/can be themed to look like and is better in my experience than anything in the market. I use Fancy Widget since I had it backed up before the C&D and I use Launcher Plus Pro (even on the Zen Aria ROM that I currently use which comes with Sense built in). I posted something like this before, I think, but I want to be thorough about my question this time.

Again, to sum up, the Calender/Clock/Weather/Messaging/Friendstream widgets don't matter to me in the slightest. The applications behind those, now those I care about (not so much with Friendstream though).

Ideas?
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LifeInTheGrey:
They all operate on HTC's framework ... HTC completely reconfigures the framework to run Sense over Android. As a result, Sense will not run with the current Froyo's AOSP framework. However, if there is a port of a Sense 2.2 rom (say, from the Desire or Aria) down the road, you will find what you are looking for. But not until then, sadly.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mac11700:
Which applications are you wanting then ? I am curious about what your asking..that's all....I switched over to the RC1 build and have been going back and forth with deciding which look and feel I prefer. The stock sense phone application on my Hero,while nice, doesn't really impress me at all,not since I can modify my phone to use what programs I need now. This build allows me to have almost the same applications as any stock Froyo phone..note I said almost..The weather application that is loaded with this build is fantastic,and is 100x more responsive now than it ever was before.Same for the stock browser,and while it may not have all of the features say Dolphin has it doesn't have all the bloat neither so it runs faster. The stock flip clock to me is clumsy and...well..boring as hell and besides it takes up too much on my screen.

So..if you don't mind me asking..what applications are you really wanting from it that you can't live without that there isn't a good if not better alternative right now ? Like I said..I'm just curious..

Mac
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] theimpaler747:
Nothing sense (apps or widgets) will work with an AOSP rom, as the framework for the HTC apps aren't there.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kwheel596:
Well, to be honest...I currently have ALL the same widgets working on my 2.2 Hero that I did when I was running 2.1 w/ Sense....
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LiquidSolstice:
But see, I don't care about widgets. Launcher Pro Plus has all the widgets I need, and Fancy Widget suffices for my clock.

Anyways, thanks for the clarification everyone, I shoulda guessed that the apps were included in the locked framework, or someone would have ported it by now.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] damiandarkwater:
I just use the clock on the top rite of the notification bar when I need to cheak the weather there are many options out there for me to choose from.Im fine without sense. AOSP Is all I think ill ever need. (:
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LiquidSolstice:
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I.....don't care about the widgets (which I've said like 7 times now :P) I care about the applications, specifically. The Sense clock app destroys the AOSP clock app in every single way possible. Things like that.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LiquidSolstice:
The clock application itself. It looks and functions perfectly. The AOSP Clock app is pretty paltry (and, forgive me, downright ugly), as is the calender app and the weather app. Oh, and I suppose Friendstream as well, seeing as that app works better for my purposes than even the official Facebook app.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DataHawg:
I really liked the Sense Homescreen clock with the animated weather. I thought I would miss it after flashing CM6. I installed Beautiful Widgets recently and it does everything the Sense Homescreen clock did and more. It's more customizable with skins, too.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LiquidSolstice:
Right, which is why I said apps, not widgets.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] vinayendra:
I`m a bit confused right now ... i really loved the HTC evo 4G but since i live in India ... i cant get my hands on that...

The only good phones i am left with are desire , xperia x10 or samsung galaxy

Pls let me know which one should i go for

And i wanted to know how are the games in galaxy .. are they even comparable to iphone games??...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ed10000:
Hey there fellow Indian :)

I bought my phone a couple of weeks ago. To me, Xperia X10 wasn't even an option. It doesn't run 2.1, is very laggy according to all the reviews I checked, and is very overpriced given its drawbacks (32k in Bangalore two weeks ago).

So me and a friend were trying to decide between the Desire and SGS. On paper, SGS out-specs the Desire in almost every single aspect. Yet, the prices of the two phones were comparable. And that alone more than convinced me to buy the Galaxy. My friend, however, was of the opinion that he couldn't live without the Sense UI on the Desire. So he bought that one.

2 weeks later, I'm majorly disappointed with the Galaxy. GPS sucks to the core, there's almost always a lag when launching an app (anywhere between 1 and 6 seconds). His Desire, despite being a lot less powerful, is extremely snappy for everyday use. He's very happy with his choice. I really really hope the GPS issue is just a software one and not anything hardware related, and that a future update fixes it (although I'm starting to get skeptical). But I'm pretty sure the lag problem will be fixed pretty soon. I won't regret my decision if the GPS gets fixed. But if not, I'm never touching another Samsung ever again!! :mad: :mad:

About the games, no, there aren't as many good games for Android as for the iPhone. Only a handful of good graphic ones. I have a lot more games I like on my 1st gen iPod Touch than on my SGS.

Pick wisely. Good luck! :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] spenceee:
I almost got the X10, but for me the decision that swung me to the galaxy S was multitouch (the X10 keyboard is really bad because of the bad touchscreen) and two was the amount of media that will play on the galaxy S.

My workmate has the desire and it is damn nice, its a matter of preference really.

I do miss having the little optical tracker from an Samsung.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Darkstriker:
Well I have to admit that there are some issues with the SGS. The GPS was simply unusable before the JM2 firmware and the lags used to be quite bad too (but there are fairly simple fixes for that issue around here). The GPS is annoying but doesn't bug me as much since I can figure out where I am on a map within a minute even in big cities and the network based locations makes that even quicker so gps in general has very little added advantage for me. But: It's still far from good on the newest firmware and samsung still has to work on that.

The lags, however, I find to be almost completely gone if you use the latest firmware in combination with a task killer (i personally use autokiller on strict preset).

And altough I never noticed much difference for snappiness when compared to my friends desire, I have to say that the touchscreen on the SGS is so much more accurate and responsive. World of difference here.

As for comparison to the iPhone on games: Games for Android suck because Android applications in general have a lower quality level that iPhone apps. They just aren't as mature. For the games that do have good graphics, however, the SGS wipes the floor with anything apple can provide (yes, also the iPhone 4. The GPU of the SGS is some 3 times more powerful than that in the iP4)

The device specific issues (GPS and lags) will very likely be fixed in the official froyo release that is due somewhere next month and anything beyong that is a general issue for android which will gradually fade as google allows checkout methods other than creditcards (which are rather uncommon among european users) and devs realize that android is a market with absolutely speaking even more potential than iPhone because it's growing like crazy and the first android phones with good specs for about 130e are being released (a market in which apple simply cannot compete)

Edit:

At the moment (weighing all the issues that haven't been fixed as well as specs and future-proofness) I would say the following:

Desire=SGS>iP4<iP3GS

(For now, the desire is softwarewise almost flawless, however, the hardware is outdated compared to the SGS, inferior screen, crappy GPU, much less accurate touchscreen BUT everything is working whereas the SGS still has its issues. The iP4 has a mechanical design error (deathgrip) which is simply not present on any other phone on the market today and which makes calling in the position I find comfortable simply impossible. The iP3 works great but comes nowhere near the SGS or even the desire in terms of internal hardware. Only it touchscreen accuracy can beat the desire and the screen quality (especially resolution) is simply awful.)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] eaglesteve:
Err... better don't discuss iPhone here. I might be tempted to tear down every arguments put up against it. LOL.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] riz157:
I was hugely disappointed when I first purchased after having owned and sold ky black desire which I was extremely happy with. That was 2 weeks ago after rooting and flashing JM2 firmware I'm extremely happy. Sammy gs is definitely better then any mobile out there at the moment, screen resolution is superior sound is superior camera video playback etc etc pretty much on every term. It's smooth fast and looks good. Touchwiz is not great buti:confused: customize is a breeze.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Mafiatounes:
The sgs is 3 times faster than the iphone 3gs, the iphone 4 has the a4 cpu/gpu wich is same as sgs except for minor changes made by apple

For gaming I would definitly go for iphone at the time, android gaming is still a bit lacky so the sgs's hardware wont show it's power for now
[Galaxy S I9000 General] riz157:
If apps are The most important factor then go with the iPhone 4 definitely, don't get wrong Android market does have somebrilliant apps however Apple have superior apps. But if you're looking for the best mobile experience in regards to the basic functions ie making calls text messaging emails and internet surfing then go with Sammy gs no question. Customization is brilliant whereas iPhone has and awful awful UI. One of the reasons I hate iPhone and + can't customize it as easily without jail breaking etc.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Mithent:
The SGS' GPU is better than the iPhone 4's: it's the PowerVR SGX 540, which is twice as fast as the SGX 535 in the iPhone 4. The larger market (and, probably, fewer hardware platforms) of the iPhone does mean that it has more and better-quality games though.

Those are the three phones I was considering also, since the EVO 4G isn't available in the UK (no CDMA networks for a start!), and I've decided now to go for the Galaxy S based on its hardware.

The only advantage the Xperia X10 has for me is its LCD-based screen; the others both have AMOLED screens on which text is less sharp due to the PenTile layout, but have higher contrast. Running Android 1.6 and apparently being generally slow count against it, and I have no interest in its TimeScape/MediaScape UIs. It only got rooted pretty recently despite being out for months, and it seems the bootloader hasn't been bypassed yet, so it's not looking like a great development platform.

The Desire has an AMOLED screen, but not Super AMOLED like the Galaxy S, so its sunlight visibility is worse, and its screen is smaller. It also doesn't have a good capacitive digitiser - I believe it only supports two points, and those can get swapped over. However, it has the generally well-thought-of Sense UI, and an active development community.

The Galaxy S has the best CPU (by a little) and the best GPU (by a lot), and the Super AMOLED screen ameliorates one of the drawbacks to having AMOLED (though text is still not as crisp as on an LCD). It seems it will have a decent development community, which is frustratingly fragmented on XDA since it has 5 different forums for the international version and the the 4 US variants. It's rooted and has a factory-unlocked bootloader though. The main drawbacks seem to be the lagging issue, which appears to be improved on newer firmwares, and can be fixed with the external SD card kernel, and the GPS problem, which various users have reported improvements with, but which isn't too critical for me. All my phones always seem to have slow GPS locks, and I don't use them for navigation. It also doesn't have a camera flash, but I rarely use the camera, and it lacks notification LEDs, which is a minor nuisance but there's already a program around to put a notification on the screen.

My perfect device built with current components would have a 4.3" LCD (not AMOLED), a 1GHz Hummingbird, have hardware front buttons, run HTC Sense and have a good chance of getting future Android updates, whether official or not. Unfortunately there is no such phone, and the closest won't work where I live, so I have to go with the phone that has the fewest compromises in areas I care about. So I'm going for the Galaxy S because software problems can be fixed, but hardware can't be changed.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] azreil24:
My point of view, I owned all of them, I now use the SGS and love it :)

Desire - PRO`s - HTC Sense, Better FW, the opaque plastic wich is made of, more hand friendly, good screen (it uses less power than the super amoled, judging from the readings of the android), good sound quality, good camera with LED flash;

CON`s - Battery, touch pannel (I push the Menu button and the Notification pannel slides down for ex., and is too darn sensitive) crapy CPU, slow GFX, no EQ;

X10 - PRO`s - Battery is very good (lasts for 3-4 days with moderate usage), design, 8MP Camera with Image Stabiliser and LED flash, good sound quality;

CON`s - Crapy CPU, slow GFX, don`t like the UI, no EQ;

SGS - PRO`s - Great screen (super amoled), very fast CPU and GFX, nice UI, perfect response from the touch screen (no touch problems like on Desire), 720p@30FPS video rec, great sound quality with EQ, great video performance (plays mkv 720p files without problems);

CON`s - Battery, fingerprint nightmare, the display uses allot of power compared to Desire`s AMOLED, GPS problems (fixed with new version of FW), design and menu resembles the iphone too much for my taste;

Hope it helps.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Mithent:
The Desire and X10 shouldn't really have significantly lower CPU power than the Galaxy S - they both have 1GHz Qualcomm Snapdragons. The 1GHz Samsung Hummingbird (somehow) benches a little higher. The Snapdragon GPU is not particularly good, though, whereas the Hummingbird has the best on any mobile phone as far as I know.

Considering how Qualcomm built their own ARM Cortex A8 core which does more instructions per second than the reference design that the Hummingbird is based off, I don't quite understand why the Hummingbird is faster.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] rdy2go:
Desire is better for everyday use, for games and multimedia consider galaxy s...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] makuchaku:
Why I will pick Samsung Galaxy S i9000 over Nexus One or HTC Desire

Hi Folks,

I wrote a short article on why I will pick up SGS i9000 over N1 or HTC Desire... thought, I will share with you all.

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Please do share your views :)

Thanks!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
we actually have a topic about that already, but never the less, the more the merrier :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] :
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[Galaxy S I9000 General] makuchaku:
Thanks AllGamer :)

I am getting my device on this weekend - can't wait :D
[Galaxy S I9000 General] INeedYourHelp:
Hello Mr. Sunshine.... if people are allowed to post whine threads, then he should be allowed to post happy threads :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] the_ahmadzais:
Galaxy s vs desire vs x10 Poll

i wana purchase 1 of these phones . which you guys think is better and why?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] alovell83:
X10, really? Just cross that one off the list. I'm fine with a lot of phones replacing it, X10 is just not even close to the league of whichever comes in second.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] TriC_101:
My buddy has the desire now he wishes he had the Samsung S
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MSRemmert:
You're asking this in a Galaxy S forum. Your results are going to be somewhat biased don't you think?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] andrewluecke:
This is the wrong place to ask. Clearly, none of us would have purchased the Galaxy S if we didn't prefer it.. You are best off reviewing the resources available yourself.

But, in regards to software updates, Desire > Galaxy S > X10 (X10 doesn't even run Android 2.0 yet).

And Samsung does seem committed to updates for the Galaxy S, so it's possible once the Cyanogenmod effort gets underway, Samsung/Desire may be equivalent.

Sony Ericsson screwed many people around in the past with their mobiles though. Everyone I know who had a SE phone with a Joystick, had a broken joystick within 2 years. Furthermore, they sold the same phones twice, with a different casing with only a few minor software differences (the Walkman series of phone).

And frankly, there is NO excuse for the X10 to still be running Android 1.6. The X10 has been out for a VERY long period now, and considering it was by far the most expensive phone available on release (much more than the Galaxy S was, even when importing it from Singapore here in Aus at least), SE should do better.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] alovell83:
Yes, we are biased, but if you post in all the forums then you'll get bias from each that cancel each-other out...right? :)

Also, we do have our share of unhappy users, though I think most were early adopters who jumped ship after GPS and/or other issues.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] emyrderfel:
The X10 was really uncomfortable to use because of its big square corners.

The Desire was out of stock when I was due for an upgrade. Orange UK couldn't give me a due date but eventually made me a decent offer on an SGS which I accepted after a colleague upgraded from a Hero to an SGS.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Bynar010:
Which is better and why? Let me google that for you shall I?