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[Desire Android Development] scutworker:
We wait for the updates as we don't all have A2SD and so start to run out of space.

When you buy the phone, the pre-installed apps are on the system partition along with all the bits and pieces that make android run. When an update is available, you download it to the data partition and the phone then uses that version instead. The problem with the Desire is that the data partition is not that big, so you soon run out of space. Teppic's updates push the new version to the system partition saving space on the data partition. Of course, if you have A2SD you don't need to worry about this as your data partition is expanded by the space on your SD card.

As for removing apps, I've done this with Titanium. Long press on the app, then select "remove by recovery exploit". The phone will reboot to a screen with a red triangle, then reboot again. This removed the apps in my case. If it doesn't work, you can always remove them with adb from your PC.
[Desire Android Development] j5m:
scutworker, have you ever tried to use titanium backup (pro) to update the system apps form the data partition?

I tried to do it but it deleted the app from data/app but didn't update the system/app/ My thought was that you need to be s-off to do any alteration to the system partition using titanium backup.

Have you solved your flash video problem? I might just use the flash update.zip that removes flash from system. Then download from the market again.

I'm going to wait till the gingerbread update to decide what rom I'll use next. but the droidzone roms with data2sd look promising.
[Desire Android Development] Simba91:
I made this by extracting the ROM in the dsixda kitchen, then copy the files in the attachement to corresponding folders to overwrite the old versions, and then rebuild the ROM. Now the rom has got the latest Superuser.apk and su files as well as busybox files.
[Desire Android Development] teppic74:
I was able to update Superuser from the market without a problem, I'm not sure why it would fail. I can provide an update for it though.

I won't provide an update for the Market app as this is handled silently by the phone - I think it's best to leave it as it is.
[Desire Android Development] teppic74:
If you're having a problem with video with the Flash update I'd recommend you downgrade to the previous version, wipe your Market app data (via the Applications menu), and then apply the market update. Here it is attached.
[Desire Android Development] Gruntplace:
This Rom and A2SD made the Desire useable for me, up till then it was driving me mad with memory filling up, it took a fair bit of reading and a leap of faith to figure out how to root and install the rom etc. and would hate to have to figure it out all over again and work out these updates. Thanks a lot for making it so easy Teppic
[Desire Android Development] j5m:
Teppic,

I've tried to apply the system updates for flash, facebook, maps etc.. But they don't appear to have been moved from data/app when i check setttings:applications.

Checking es explorer it looks like the apk are in system/app but there are no .odex files.

I removed facebook from data/app and data/dalvik-cache and data/data. Then i installed facebook using the system/app apk. This resulted in a com.facebook.katana.apk appearing in data/app and data/dalvik-cache.

Does this mean that i have no space in my system to install these updated system apps?

Does anyone have a list of htc system apps that can be deleted safely to free up system space for apps i actually use?
[Desire Android Development] gosa:
It's a long thread to read through, so I really understand if you missed it... ;)

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=10183688&postcount=1781
[Desire Android Development] j5m:
Thanks for the reply.would removing htc facebook mean that I wouldn't have the contacts integration?

More importantly to the first point of my questions. Are the system updates not working because of a lack of space?
[Desire Android Development] canadacam39:
The guy at Telus thought it was stock :D

Yeah, I had a ruined SIM card, so I took my phone into Telus and they had a check around. Of course, their warranty policy meant they had to check if the OS had been modified in any way (like root). Luckily, I was running LauncherPro and I had hidden the Superuser app, ROM manager and Titanium Backup before-hand so when he checked the system settings -> about -> software, he had no idea he was looking at a phone with a rooted custom ROM! Thumbs up for that trick, saved my warranty :D
[Desire Android Development] gosa:
I'm not sure I would remove Facebook from /system/app, especially since teppic's updates will put it right back again... There are far bigger apps you can remove to clear up space than that.

As for the system updates failing, shouldn't there be some kind of error message in recovery when you try to apply the zip?

Either way - I would download Quick system info from market and check how much space there's left on /system. If it's really low you can start removing the apps in the list I linked to. If I don't remember wrong (I switched to CM7 and a different partition layout on my phone so I can't check) you should end up with more than 20MB free on system.

If the updates still fail after that I'd say something else is wrong.
[Desire Android Development] j5m:
The system updates fail in the sense that the apk are stored in the system folder but there it's no odex file in system, instead a dex file appears in data/dalvik-cache. Thus taking up my data space. Does this happen because I don't have enough free space in system?
[Desire Android Development] omerta1988:
You should see your internal storage level, if it's low it is prolly.

So guys, is it secure to use this rom with bravo_alphaspl-sense table?
[Desire Android Development] gosa:
I really don't have any idea what might happen if your system partition is filling up, but my recommendation is still:

Check how much you have left now, clean away some apps from /system (by update-file or by deleting them before flashing) and see if the problem persists.

- Will probably be quicker to do a test like that than to wait for a reply that might (or might not) give you a solution.
[Desire Android Development] k.aalai:
Ive been a very happy user of this ROM since it came out, so big thank you to the dev!

I have a question though. Ive been trying to remove my bloatware by a thousand different ways, but always fail somehow.

If I try by some removal apps or from ADB shell in recovery , I get the "directory not empty" message.

Other apps give me a "not rooted" message.

If I use root explorer, and delete the apk and odexs' directly they seem to go, but they are still there after a refresh, or reboot.

So basically I havent managed it, some apps go, others like facebook, peep, footprints just stay forever, or come back after a reboot.

OR the app properties show them as 0 byte size, yet they are all available in the apps drawer and sometimes even can be launched.

Why is this happening?

And today I tried to integrate Gmaps 5.7 intu the rom by using titanium backup's funtion, and there was a big mess, so had to restore the previous version. How can I integrate an update into the rom without having to wait for an update zip here? Can I replace the old apk in the update zip with a new one and just flash that one? Or will this give me some signature mismatch etc?
[Desire Android Development] j5m:
Unless you are s-off you can't alter the system folder using root explore or titanium backup
[Desire Android Development] k.aalai:
Im not S-off, so i suppose there's my answer!

Although in almost all the apps' descriptions, they mention root as a requirement and not s-off...oh well, live and learn!
[Desire Android Development] j5m:
I think most root for other phones than htc would be sufficient.however htc phones also have s-on protection
[Desire Android Development] kaasaanfiets:
I get an error at line 61 or 62.

Something with cant write to or open something with xbin and or something, i allready trying to install leedroid so i dont know what the error said.

I saw 1 person in this topic with the same error and googled it. Some anwsers gave that i probebly had the wrong SPL ?

How does that work en what do i need to have then?

I have cm7 hboot, that isnt original do i need to install the original for brave or something?
[Desire Android Development] ShirazSuleman:
The ROM will not fit into the CM7 hboot. Yes, you need the stock Bravo hboot.
[Desire Android Development] kaasaanfiets:
hehe thanks, indeed i allready found it out. but yes that was the problem.

And that makes sense because the rom is 148MB in zip and the CM7 has 145MB space.

Installing powermod and a2sd+ on V3 now
[Desire Android Development] k.aalai:
A related question to my previous one, re sys apps:

If I want to use eg another calculator app, can I delete the original system ones apk, and place the apk for the replacement one in my system/app directory?

Will this then make the new apk my 'system' calculator?

PS any answers re my prev questions re the new Gmaps would be very appreciated!

All the above queries are obviously to use the available memory most efficiently and reduce duplication of apps.
[Desire Android Development] mayurh:
teppic

does your rom have the bluetooth headset fix?

the issue where it disconnects the bt headset

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=731626&highlight=bluetooth+headset
[Desire Android Development] ShirazSuleman:
This ROM is stock and therefore does not contain any mods or patches. I do not think that there is a flashable bluetooth fix from teppic either.
[Desire Android Development] mayurh:
Howsit,

yes i know that

just asking if there is a fix
[Desire Android Development] tanclo:
Dear Mr. Teppic74 Thank you for this great work. Your OP is helpful and your tweaks etc. are very good.. just what one needs to have a stock rom with wings as they say :-)

I found the fastest experienece yet on Froyo Sense using this rom. The only thing is i was disappointed to find the languages are limited to European languages. Anyway, I have gained a good understanding that you are the go-to-person for future rooted roms :-)

With the Desire, internal memory is such a big issue though.. so my alternative is the stable and fast data2ext solution by Droidzone (Starburst) which has Asian languages as it's based on the 2.29.405.5 WWE Rom

When and if a Gingerbread rom is released for the Desire (with Sense) I will check your posts as I require Android 2.3.4 for my needs. I might also apply Droidzones data2sd zips (based on Sibere's scripts) to any Sense ROM in future (those zips in this xda post)
[Desire Android Development] Anakha56:
Hello All,

Stupid question time mainly because I cant find anything about people asking.

I am taking my Desire back to Froyo 2.2 (See the current ROM in sig) and I would just like to confirm 2 things. 1 is about this ROM and 2 is a general question.

1: Can I flash this ROM with Clockwork Recovery 3.X? Cant remember the exact version I have but I just want to confirm that there is no script errors with flashing using a 3.X recovery?

2: I take it the parition layout needed for this ROM is the Bravo Sense one? Just making sure...
[Desire Android Development] mayurh:
teppic work your magic dude

htc released a ruu for the 2.3 update for developers now

hope to see a pre rooted stock gingerbread soon;)
[Desire Android Development] c00l3r:
teppic74 I'm also counting on you. Your ROMS ares great. Please give us a pre-rooted 2.3 ROM :)
[Desire Android Development] Mr. Frost:
Yes, this would be great. I've always used your roms before I moved to CM7. It seems that all the others can't make a really clean Rom. They always throw in lots of useless stuff.
[Desire Android Development] ak29:
Very happy with your rom. It is the best in my opinion. I have tried many roms but always come back to this one. Its fast, stable, good battery and easy to use. My only wish is to have this rom in the 2.3 version that would be the icing on the cake. Thanks again Teppic74.
[Desire Android Development] revilwong:
I agree with the Mr. Frost. Though there're already severel rooted stock gb out there, but other devs throw in many other stuff like deodexed and some tweaks we don't know what they are and kernal modification, etc.

I really like the style of your rooted rom, teppic74. Clean base, and many tweaks we can choose by ourselves. I hope we can have a great rooted gb from you.

Thanks. Regards.
[Desire Android Development] tanclo:
Waiting.. can you try to have Asian languages included too. I know that depends on the leaked version, but if you have a choice ..please consider it.
[Desire Android Development] timstanley1985:
Can you please update with gingerbread ruu
[Desire Android Development] smhtc:
That is because only some HTC devices have that additional security. Apps are developed for android in general, where rooting is sufficient.
[Desire Android Development] Dashie84:
Teppic please, i am one of the devoted to your roms asd please make the new gingerbread rooted and update all your fantastic script!
[Desire Android Development] teppic74:
I'll look into making a rooted ROM for the new release. It takes a long time to do a decent job, so I can't give any times.
[Desire Android Development] FelixofMars:
That is pretty decent of you, I am sure its a bunch of work to get it rooted and working well. I thought that it might be too much effort. I noticed there are a few ones based off the stock surfacing but I don't really want much past the stock.
[Desire Android Development] beanbean50:
why do people root their phones then want them as stock as possible?

I'm sure there must be a perfectly good reason...
[Desire Android Development] FelixofMars:
Personally I only wanted the Orange pap off mine, The standard stock seems fine for my needs and a lot of the alternative ROMs require wiping the unit or faffing sorting out A2SD or whatever. If there was a hard and fast way of doing this without spending ages backing up and wiping then I may switch to user made ROMs.
[Desire Android Development] IVS IVRIS:
A big fan of your rom.. although I got used to sense 3 now.. any chance you might add some features into it?
[Desire Android Development] teppic74:
It'll be along the same lines as this. Stock with a few options. I'll probably start a different thread for it, so people don't confuse the two.
[Desire Android Development] phyl65:
EXT4 kernel

Hi !

I would like to use the [DEV][DATA2SD] More space (and more I/O) for your Desire (Updated/EXT4/Flashable ZIP) of sibere (here) with this rom.

So I need a kernel with EXT4 support.

I tried the richardtrip's [KERNEL] HAVS 2.6.32 for Sense Roms V5f(BFS/HAVS/OC1113Mhz/EXT4/Audiomod/CIFS+utf8) but I have an issue with the WIFI (see my post about the issue here).

Is anyone here using DATA2SD with the teppic74 rom ? With which kernel ?

Phyl65
[Desire Android Development] fotoboogie:
I wholeheartedly agree that this Rom and teppic's rooted stock roms are the best, most stable ones out there. I do sincerely hope he'll be making a 2.3 gb one.

I strongly suggest we ALL buy him a beer now to help him justify the time and effort put into it!

https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=H7CWV8KN4TLVY
[Desire Android Development] teppic74:
I'm in the process of testing a basic pre-rooted stock version. I'll upload this when I'm satisfied, but the mods will come later.
[Desire Android Development] ragwo:
Thank you very much! :-)
[Desire Android Development] teppic74:
I've released a base ROM for Gingerbread. Right now there are no mods at all available.

edit: there are a couple now.
[Desire Android Development] ak29:
good kernel

Any recommendations for a good kernel that increases battery life without sacrificing performance?

I was thinking of trying this kernel:

manu 1.4 havs axi 129 cfs.

Thanks in advance.
[Desire Android Development] Dr Byte:
ManU (EViollet's) kernel is indeed a good one, with great battery performance, but it's an AOSP kernel, not a Sense one. If you're using one of Teppic's ROMs, you'll need a Sense Kernel.
[Desire Android Development] ak29:
Thanks for letting me know it's for aosp roms. Any ideas what's good for sense roms then?
[Desire Android Development] Dr Byte:
The stock one in Teppic's v3 ROM (with power saving mod) is very efficient. I see no reason to look any further afield. I found that the more I futzed with settings, the worse it got. In the end, I got rid of SetCPU (etc) and left it to itself.

I'd still be running it now if I didn't need an AOSP ROM to get my *%^*&%^*( external bluetooth keyboard working.

HTC build great phones, but they can be very short-sighted when it comes to critical resources such as battery capacity, RAM, EEPROM, and implementing entire standards. They "claim" bluetooth support in the specs, but only deliver a tiny fraction of it :(

Anyone know if the new GB kernel has a proper bluetooth stack (with HID)? They haven't released the source yet, and noone at HTC will answer my questions. Or even acknowledge them. I figure the only way I'm going to find out is to decompile the kernel, read the source, or install the thing and test it.

On the plus side, they "claim" HID in the Sensation's bluetooth specs; on the minus, that is Sense 3.0 whereas the Desire appears to have had no upgrade at all in the UI... I can but hope that they did something with the eight months they've been sitting on the Gingerbread kernel. Such as finishing it.
[Desire Android Development] Gruntplace:
Would this work on HTC Wildfire?

Hi

Would this ROM and root process work on the HTC Wildfire? Really just want the Apps2SD and partition the memory card as I have hardly any apps and still internal memory is always full.

Teppic rocks, just installed his GB on my Desire and perfect.

Thanks

G
[Desire Android Development] Pyr0wl:
No, it wouldn't. Different device, different ROM.
[Desire Android Development] Gruntplace:
Thanks for the reply.

Anyone recommend a similar stock ROM to Teppics with Apps2SD, card partition etc. for the Wildfire?

Thanks

G
[Desire Android Development] Proz0r:
Is there an A2SD, not plus, the one which only moves apps, but not Dalvik cache to the ext partition?
[Desire Android Development] BlueCity:
I think it is time to go on here!

The Gingerbread version from Teppic ist running fine

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1200261
[Desire Android Development] ciribic:
I have stock Froyo 2.29.405.5 which hasn't been rooted yet. I was wondering if I can just root it and add A2SD+ mod? (I would do data wipe after rooting, and after rooting would have clockwork mod)
[Desire Android Development] kmetek:
I just lost root access because of updated version of Superuser v.3.0.7(41)

What should I do, thanks?
[Desire Android Development] Chef_of_Sweden:
The new OTA 2.29.405.14 Working with this ROM?

Anyone tried updating it?

/Chef
[Desire Android Development] dan281082:
@TEPPIC74

Hey Man can u explain how this mod works does it shrink the dalvik cache permenatley ? fdoes it take up any system space so i could use it on my custom boot rom?

cheers dude
[Desire Android Development] wckong:
Due to issues I have been having with teppic's Gingerbread ROM, I've gone back to this Froyo ROM. But unfortunately, when I installed it, I installed the non init.d rom, and am now running out of space.

Can anyone tell me if it is possible to now install the init.d rom, and then install the APP2SD addon without wiping my phone, and if so which version would be the most compatible?

Thanks in advance.
[Desire Android Development] mayurh:
guys for all those having issues with this rom

i suggest you guys try miui

its just awesome in my opinion.much better than stock 2.3 sense
[Desire Android Development] Maverick87Shaka:
Hi to all, I know is an old topic, but I want to revert back to stock ROM and this one is a good start point to add only mod that I need.

But the download link is no longer available due to the host closed. Anyone can help me? I'm interested to Basic ROM 3.0 or 3.1 and POWERSAVING MODPACK.

Thanks to all can help me!
[Desire Android Development] rincage:
Don't have links to this ROM. But the download links for the later Gingerbread stock version

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1200261

is here

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=22550909&postcount=429
[Desire Android Development] tripfish:
Download link

I'm still using this ROM. :D

Found the V3.1 file on an old SD-Backup.

http://www.multiupload.nl/SFO9YFAA3J

No warranty!
[Desire Android Development] kaasaanfiets:
I cant install the rom in 4ext touch recovery.

what now? Also when i revert from cm7r2 to stock hboot, 4ext doesnt load my sd card anymore.

It not my card, it fails with all card. When i go back to cm7r2 it loads the sd card again.
[Desire Android Development] teppic74:
If you have adb you can check A2SD+ is working by doing 'adb shell ls /sd-ext', if you see app, app-private and dalvik-cache it's fine.
[Desire Android Development] Heppieboeddah:
Thats what i wrote in a previouse post. Flash Rom, flash apps2sd. Reboot. Then go to the recovery again, wipe dalvik-cache and then flash the fuse pack. So you finnaly done it..:D

To check if apps2sd is working you might download Quick System Info from the market.
[Desire Android Development] teppic74:
One thing - if you add fusecompress without any of the mods that free up space (e.g. update flash) you may overfill the system partition and that caused bootloops for me every time (though it could just be my phone).
[Desire Android Development] malaga82:
I assume it's working fine then :)

http://screencast.com/t/NGVmYjdiNDQt
[Desire Android Development] Heppieboeddah:
Like to say thanks for sharing. The mods are working fine and i found no problem @ this moment what so ever.

Cheers
[Desire Android Development] teppic74:
Could somebody do me a quick favour and tell me the version of GMail installed? (my phone is backing up)
[Desire Android Development] malaga82:
it says...2.2
[Desire Android Development] teppic74:
That's fine, thanks.
[Desire Android Development] Bl@ck:
To create the EXT3 partion install Rom Manager and click on "Parition SD Card" it'll ask for the size (skip the swap partition), after the reboot it'll format and partition your sdcard automatically :)
[Desire Android Development] teppic74:
New mod added.
[Desire Android Development] malaga82:
Thanks, your rom and the capability to add what we like or not is superb!

Just one question: i am restoring user data+ apps from titanium backup, does it put the apps to app2sd or to SD fat32??
[Desire Android Development] Heppieboeddah:
Installing...:) Only removed facebook from the zip.
[Desire Android Development] Bl@ck:
With a2sd it'll restore them in the ext3 partition :)
[Desire Android Development] teppic74:
A2SD+ is transparent - it takes advantage of the underlying OS/filesytem to 'fool' the phone into using the sdcard every time it tries to use the phone's storage for apps.
[Desire Android Development] Derevko:
Is this a specific issue of this ROM? I've the previous pre-rooted froyo version and I can update google maps from the market.
[Desire Android Development] Heppieboeddah:
Dont know what you mean? But Google Maps can be found in the market. If an update is availble you will find it there. Its not an issue concerning this rom.
[Desire Android Development] Derevko:
Ah sorry, I misread your previous reply :) s/can/can't/ :) sorry for the noise
[Desire Android Development] teppic74:
The official ROM comes with 4.4.0. You can update it with the apps pack or via the market (or not at all).
[Desire Android Development] juniorxdb:
The HTC Sense restart many times, after I flashed the APP2Sd...
[Desire Android Development] demercie:
Many thanks to you teppic74, the battery life i have with your rom is the best i'v got so far, way better !!!!