yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Android NAND Development] jcsy:
So I technically shouldn't move apps using android native move to SD card feature , as long as after I install say, a game at 15 MB and it didn't use up my /data, means its inside sd-ext 1gb partition? Then I should leave it in there and not touch it?

Apps2sd implementation to ext3 is faster than native /sdcard/.android_secure, correct?

For example sake;

Internal ROM space has 100MB remaining

SD card has 300MB remaining

SD-EXT has 500MB remaining

when I install, say a game, Majesty, 15MB

my results are ;

Internal ROM space has 100MB remaining

SD card has 300MB remaining

SD-EXT has 485MB remaining

means it was installed into my sd-ext and is considered using apps2sd

BUT WHAT IF I MOVED IT USING native move to sd card feature

Internal ROM space has 100MB remaining

SD card has 285MB remaining (and is found inside /.android_secure)

SD-EXT has 500MB remaining

AND THEN I MOVED IT TO PHONE MEMORY using native move to phone memory

Internal ROM space has 85MB remaining

SD card has 300MB remaining

SD-EXT has 500MB remaining

this means its using our internal space now?

*i am ignoring all small calculations of left over data of the app

Now my next question is that I have literrally moved almost every app of mine using native android "move to sd card" feature which results in my /.android_secure folder being really populated

Whats the best way to get these apps back into sd-ext since I believe MOVE TO PHONE is really moving it to phone memory

Reinstall everything (backup data using Titanium and restore after reinstall)

My understanding also is that some apps gets installed into Internal ROM, sometimes into SD card as default, some into SD-EXT so I'm not even sure what is what and where is where now :D

any app can tell me for sure where things are?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] pongster:
Yes, its probably in sd-ext if /data size didn't decrease when you installed the game... check your sd-ext partition and look for the apk over there to verify.

Re: apps2sd in ext3 being faster than /sdcard/android_secure I have not tested.

myandroid_secure folder is only used by Paypal Android App, IIRC.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] jcsy:
i RE-EDITED my post for more details, can you verify that for me?

and yes, thanks for your grand reply :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] pongster:
I'd uninstall the apps in question and restore with Titanium. Check the options in Titanium Prefs... "Restoration Settings"
[HD2 Android NAND Development] thuynh022:
Yes I fixed permissions. My market is working now. I updated to the newest market and set DPI at 190.

Still having problems with force closes and what seems to be "crash to desktop". Every app I use for 5+ minutes either closes to the homescreen or force closes.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Chivas610:
Hi! I'm having problem with the Market not letting me install apps due to compatibility issues, even tho i know these apps works fine on the hd2. Is there any way to change what model the phone identifies as?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] YZ:
hey, try editing this in your build.prop:

ro.product.model=Nexus S

ro.product.manufacturer=samsung
[HD2 Android NAND Development] zbeky:
BINGO! Uninstalling gmaps solved it. Thank you very much! Now I need just to find out why this happened and what version wouldn´t behave like this
[HD2 Android NAND Development] jcsy:
Apps in the folder android_secure are probably the ones moved by native android SD card move, right?

And apps inside sd-ext are not listed in android_secure , right ?

Titanium Backup Restoration Settings

Which one?

Default Location (chosen by Android)

Original Location (for TB3.2.8+ backups)

Internal storage

External media

default is in bold
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Chivas610:
Seems to work! :)

Takker ;)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] jcsy:
my ROM has become very unstable

not sure its because of

1. too many games , mixed in sd card and sd-ext

2. too many big files ,

3. low disk space in sd card

4. low disk space in internal ROM

my observations is that my ROM recently suffers a reboot when installing / uninstalling apps

this is mainly probably due to high disk i/o and it happens each time i reboot (during the scanning of sd card)

guess im going to uninstall many apps and see how it goes
[HD2 Android NAND Development] don_sefer:
Attention: A server erro has occurre. Retry, or cancel and return to the previous screen.

Occurs every time I want to search something. I need help, this is really bad, because I am unable to use the market.

Using standard HyperDroid ROM

Sent from my HD2
[HD2 Android NAND Development] jae-v:
i'm unable to use the market as well, exact same problem i came to post about
[HD2 Android NAND Development] pongster:
which market version you on?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] kantjer:
For me the build in (old market) version started acting up yesterday, giving "A server error has occurred" messages. After upgrading to Market 3.4.4. market is working again but only at 240 dpi.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] fgth90:
Please tell me what you see after uninstalling....

I'm facing same pb, many apps/games... on sd ext and sd

I'm using link2sd also and don't know if it's a sd card pb, a link2sd pb or another reason.

Sometimes my ext3 is back and I have to mount it twice with link2sd before I can acces to my apps again...

And reboot on installing or uninstalling apps.

Thanks

Franky
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dilse:
Using version of Market that came with build, and I have the same issue trying to install apps. Searching works, but when I try to install, I get the network error message.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] kantjer:
For me even searching didn't work anymore :eek:
[HD2 Android NAND Development] jae-v:
likewise, i'm using the version that the build came with...fix permissions did not work either
[HD2 Android NAND Development] clyder:
I am not really sure how to help you with market issue since I am not having it nor do I ever had it. I am using old market from thr 5.5.2 also, I search and install apps all the time.

Please provide some more info on the issue. Logcat would be nice.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] scpion:
Hi, I have searched but theres no answer... Why does the bookmarks widget looks choppy?..
[HD2 Android NAND Development] clyder:
My appologies, I just tried searching and I got that error when searching apps. But the rest of the market functionality works. When I installed new market I can search for apps.

This is a logcat when I got that error.

Funny. Maybe google is droping support for old market? Or maybe undergoing some maintenance....I found simmilar errors on the net....not related to old market though.

I dont have time right now to troubleshoot this. To avoid this issue install new market. If I find something I will post it.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] jae-v:
could someone link the new market or attach
[HD2 Android NAND Development] clyder:
This is 3.4.4. version that I have just downloaded.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] tmihai20:
There is even a CWM zip available right here on the good ol' XDA.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] jae-v:
thanks guys

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"your device isn't compatible with this item" for just about everything now..searched around and set my dpi to 240 and still have the same issue..hmm

*fixed deleting cache and data*
[HD2 Android NAND Development] GeitjeG:
There is an app called LCD Density Changer which easily and quick changes density; and back. The free version is enogh in this case.

I use it to install apps which seem not compatible in 192 dpi.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] jae-v:
yea there's a utility cooked into the rom now, used that to make the change...installed what i needed then put it back to where i'm comfortable
[HD2 Android NAND Development] jcsy:
i installed S2E (simple2ext), rebooted, and never booted up after that

confirm because before installing, i rebooted and that was fine

i restored /data and /system, fix permissions, wipe cache and etc and still unable to boot up. suspect severe damage to the internal system's a2sd or dalvik implementation

you have been warned
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Ashhong:
Ouch. I have the same issues as you and can confirm that the problem is not because of low SD space, low sd-ext space, or even low internal phone space.

I am going to take Pongsters advice and just backup my apps with Titanium Backup and restore after deleting the sd-ext. I believe that is the problem. I will probably wait until the next version of the ROM though, so I don't have to setup various settings over again.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] caracal reloaded:
I've installed market 3.4.4

Appear alert on upper page: "device not compatible for this app"

Way for solve this issue?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mexicandroid:
set your LCD density to 160 and clear cache
[HD2 Android NAND Development] defvayne:
I've had that happen before. Had to wipe and reflash the rom.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] linuxis:
Crash report

ups post to wrong thread :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] clyder:
It turns out that the error in old market while doing search is related to lcd density. In that case it looks like the old market suffers from the same issue with non-compatible density as the new market.

When I switch density to 160 or 240 the search works just fine. When I switched it back to 192 error reappeared.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] jcsy:
agreed.

im going to take pongsters advice for next ROM i flash, and not monitor each time i install something and make sure its using sd-ext and if it doesnt, then only move to sdcard [built in native move to sd](/android_secure)

backing up apps and redeploying them using Titanium might solve the problem but slightly tedious

on another note, i read that launching stuff from ext3/ext4 partition is faster than the native move to sd card (android_secure)

on another note too, after removing some games and clearing up some stuff on sd card & on internal ROM, the system was still unstable so I have had ruled that one out.

at this moment, my android secure size is 1.5GB and my sd-ext is 500MB used

installing S2E ?

yeah that was the culprit and i had to format completely, restore from NAND

lucky for me, i had a NAND which was 1 day old, and Titanium backup just before i rebooted the phone

so NAND restore, Titanium restore some apps and data...

whew..
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Ashhong:
Yea I wish I could keep sd-ext going, but I guess it wont be that much of a hassle to move each app as I install them, since I only install apps once in a while.

If I backup apps from an sd-ext using Titanium Backup, will I be able to restore them with no problems later when I am missing the sd-ext?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] scpion:
Something is zapping my battery.. Current widget logs ard 90ma/5min constantly. Check my battery usage and it says launcher pro is using 48% of the battery.. higher than the display usage.. anyone having the same issue?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] TSever:
Hi all

I saw that, my phone (tmous hd2) randomly restarts itselves in a day when i have using 3 g networks. But noting happens on 2g.

I am not using ext partition nand enought for me.

Kingston 16 gb class 2 micro sd card.

Is any body have this problem
[HD2 Android NAND Development] YZ:
I had it for a very long time. The only possible solution for me to fix it was choosing my network operator manually.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] jae-v:
interesting
[HD2 Android NAND Development] clyder:
Today I tried search in old market. This time it is not throwing an error and works fine. Allthough I cant seam to find some apps while searching like waze, skype....

Maybe google is making some changes regarding support for old market.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] praedo:
How to upgrade ????

Dear all,

I'm working with a version from September this year.

I would like to know, how to upgrade to the last one ?

After to upgrade, Do I need to re-install all aplications?

Do I need a backup before ?

Thank you very much in advance
[HD2 Android NAND Development] clyder:
Upgrade should work over the version you have, but there is a chance that could get buggy so do a backup before definitely.

Safest way would be to use app like titanium backup for apps and then do a fresh install and restore them one by one. But you can always try to just flash it over existing one.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] YZ:
hehe, okay...

I will reply nicely :)

Before asking your question you should have searched. To know how to upgrade, check the main post. (that easy :O)

After the upgrade, yes, you will have to re install all the applications. I would recommend backing them up with titanium backup (backup before upgrading ;) )

fine..

Backup apps, sms, contacts etc.

Wipe data/cache/dalvik cache from cwm and flash the rom

then restore apps with titanium backup

Your welcome :)

If you end up with some issues, and you have searched, but can't find an answer, feel free to PM me.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mjharis:
Moin,

are there any problems if i'm going to use Hyperdroid with a 200 or 250 mb CWM partition?

Because i wanna try different Roms but will have hyperdroid as allday roms ;)

regards
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Sik-1:
No problems just make a backup and your good to go
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mjharis:
That sounds nice ;D

And is it possible to restore this 150mb partition back up to the new 200mb?

This would be awesome :D

And thanks for ur fast reply
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Bologna:
Hyperdroid ready Dorimanxm kernel 2.9

download here :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] _X_:
With DPI set at 240 old market works. Skype included. Regular updates also work. With DPI set to custom value u can expect more and more problems (apps not present, updates not visible etc), even with old market.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] jirka607:
Same here when using DPI240 everything is OK when using 192 some apps are not visible.... any way to solve it i want to use 192....Thanks

EDIT: At 167 dpi everything is OK
[HD2 Android NAND Development] YZ:
again, I think this is "country ?" related.

I live in norway, and I have no problems with 192 dpi.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] jirka607:
maybe it is but somehow my phone info on market.android.com changed to Vodafone HTC HD2
[HD2 Android NAND Development] YZ:
if you can't install some apps, try editing your build.prop to make market recognize your hd2 as nexus s. Posted a "how to" few posts back ;)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] karapialis:
Thanks
[HD2 Android NAND Development] thuynh022:
Google maps doesn't show up in market anymore.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] jirka607:
Tried but still some apps are missing from the market like Skype and others..

EDIT: I Think we must somehow fake LCD_Density information so that market will read working 240 but we will use 167/192/others...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] ketan2skip:
hi bologna,

i want to use this rom with dorimanx ,so my question what i need to prepare?mean for my micro sd ...do i need to use ext4 with swap and which size i need ?what about cwm partition ..... 170 or 150 ? thx in advance
[HD2 Android NAND Development] jirka607:
Another strange thing when i Download app in 240dpi and then change the Dpi back to 167 the app is still not resized...but stays the same...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] scpion:
Any suggestions/help?.. the launchers are killing my phone.. even same result with zeam..
[HD2 Android NAND Development] kafer12:
swap is an option;

u don`t need to enlarge partitions, the kernel is tiny

hm.. try to turn off "lock home app in memory" in cm settings->perfomance or in launcher settings. however, this is just a suggestion.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mutil:
try go launcher or another launcher to see if it is launcher related.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] jirka607:
For the DPI i´m fine now just set the DPI to 160 so its nice looking and every app is where it should be!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Bologna:
no swap here, you need an ext3/4 partition 1/2 gb primary, nothing else

recovery 5/150/5

1flash hyper rom

2 nandroid backup

3 flash dm kernel

4 enjoy :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] ketan2skip:
thx man for reply,that's help :) ,how about battery drain ?

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[HD2 Android NAND Development] Strychnin:
Need help adb

Please, I need help...

Anybody got the USB debugging mode working. My recovery is broken so i need ADB...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Bologna:
It's better seadersn kernel for battery

DM one is very fast and you must monitor your apps cpu usage to have a good result

system tuner pro suggested
[HD2 Android NAND Development] scpion:
Ok. am trying out go launcher now. Battery died on me... Dun even remember seeing launchers listed in the battery usage before.. look at that!!

Not new to flashing roms.. current widget recently log 180+Ma constantly causing battery to die in hours.. Wifi off, BT off, Location off, even 3g is off!! I even used the launcher pro from the market.. Used LP for almost every rom that I have used before, 1st time this is happening.. Strange.. Zeam launcher also giving me the same problem..
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Stivenson:
Working market

So, I was able to get the market working.

1) Install Market 3.4.4 via CWM

2) Edit the build.prop as yz.hd described it here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=20355171#post20355171

build.prop is locatet in /system. Use root explorer to edit the file.

3) Save the changes made in build.prop

4) Reboot your HD2

5) After the reboot DO NOT OPEN THE MARKET!!! Here you have to delete the data and cache for the market app. Go to Settings->Apps-> App Management->go to ALL tab-> Chose the Market App and then click Clear Data and Clear Cache.

6) Reboot your phone.

7) Enjoy the market :)

The density does not really matters.

The edition of build.prop made it!!!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] jirka607:
any noteable difference between this and the market that comes with hyperdroid..... i know only different UI
[HD2 Android NAND Development] isinisterx:
I'm not getting the new marker update. Any fix for this?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Omibus:
I did every step as described but my market still sais that most of my apps are not compatible with my device. so i cant update them.

edit: ok sorry it helps! but only in combination with putting the density to 240.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] YZ:
marketupdater.apk is removed in the rom so it won't auto update. If you want the new market, check the threads on xda or search for the market on web :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] isinisterx:
Thanks. What's the problem that the people above me are posting about?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] YZ:
they can't download/install certain apps. Market is saying "this app is not compatible with you device"
[HD2 Android NAND Development] jcsy:
seader s9 rates as below

gaming performance 9/10 (all games, 10/10 is for MIUI though)

battery 10/10 (perhaps because the data drops more)

speed 8/10

multitasking 5 apps

high disk read/write doesnt reboot system

dorimanx 2.9

gaming performance 7/10 (some games just struggle to run, bad coding or lag)

battery 9/10 (similiar to seader, by small % lost, maybe cause less data drops)

speed 9/10 (faster than seader and more responsive overall)

multitasking 5 apps

multitasking 9 apps with ZRAM

high disk read/write causes soft reboot (without reaching magldr)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] scpion:
Go launcher having same issue... really dun know y..
[HD2 Android NAND Development] macs18max:
Scpion. If you are importing any widgets, remove them all and try using launcher without widget/icons. Also try switching to other battery monitoring app or some other instead of current widget.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] h@wk3y3:
Many crashed apps

Hi guys.... I've been away for a while and have applied the latest update and now I find alot of my apps are crashing ie: Facebook, Zeam Launcher, Plume, Twitter, K-9 mail, and others....

First time this has happened. How can I correct these problems??

Cheers...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] isinisterx:
My markets still not updating after installing that apk
[HD2 Android NAND Development] YZ:
I hope you didn't install marketupdater.apk ? lol :D

if you want the new market search on the web..

ahh nvm, I'm nice today, here you go : link :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] flame10:
The new market is good even functionality wise, best I like is the addition of different accounts and the editorial and staff picks of apps. Even rating and comments addition is much better.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Bologna:
try to fix permission...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dilse:
This is what I did to receive app udpates:

1. Changed build.prop to label to Nexus S

2. Updated to new market.

3. Change DPI to 240, rebooted

4. Clear Market Cache and Data.

5. Launched Market, and found 22 updates for my apps.

6. Change DPI back to 192, rebooted.

7. Launched Market, and still found 22 updates for my apps.

8. Updated all apps.

:)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] YZ:
;(

that's because you didn't clear data before changing to 192.

I did, now I can't see updates + every apps is incompatible with my device.. Only 160 and 240 dpi works :(
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dilse:
:) I thought that might work, so tried it.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] defvayne:
That's why I'm on 160. No more update or incompatible software problems.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dilse:
Just switched to 160 DPI, to see how the screens look. I like it.

Does anyone know if the build as been set to 192 for a reason, and whether leaving it on 160 will cause any issues for me?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] YZ:
don't think so. If some of your apps do not fit your screen, unceck compatible mode in spare parts.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dilse:
OK this is weird. Changing to 160 DPI permanently, as I love the resolution, and I now have 3 more apps requiring updates.

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Thanks will keep an eye out for that one...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] ketan2skip:
thx for the comparation ,really clean for me ......

what i need to do if i want to use zram with hyperdroid rom?do i need to have swap first ?and what is the next step if yes ,thx in advance
[HD2 Android NAND Development] khashila:
mac address problem!

well i see this as a solid build no major probs and the minor ones are really minor! and mainly due to user ineptitude:D

but my question is: is there a way to change my wifi mac address??

ive tried a couple of lines in terminal but no joy!:(

and the reason im askin this u might wonder is that the company i work for only allows wifi access to apple devices :mad: so...

any help is appreciated and thnx in advance!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] iShad0w:
And what about downgrade market to 1.82 for exemple?

I like this version of market, coz it simple, clear and super fast ;]

I try to downgrade, but I can't find working apk. :(
[HD2 Android NAND Development] jcsy:
in order;

dorimanx 2.9 kernel

524MB zram activation script

hyperdroid initrd.gz placed into the custom folder

flash from recovery

choose zram

flash 524MB zram activation script

clear dalvik

clear cache

boot up

cyanogen settings 26% compcache (not sure if neccesary)

terminal emulator to check FREE or ZRAM_STATS

:)

u only need zram if u use alot of RAM intensive apps

you can have all these open for example

Facebook, Twitter, Browser, Market, Titanium, File Manager, Whats App, Trillian, Gallery and even, game : Destinia

we generally dont need to multitask 9 active apps

just causes performance, battery drains(due to extra CPU activity)

but switching from task to task never exits
[HD2 Android NAND Development] isinisterx:
Does anyone know how to fix the force closes due to something when ending a call?

My entire phone freezes and only the lights come on when I press the buttons??