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[Epic 4G General] Eazail70x7:
The mic on my sister's Epic actually works using the 3.5 jack in the car! I just found out yesterday when she got a call and talking to the person thrugh her phone while you can hear them over the car speakers. I called her a bad name cause hers works while mine doesn't (jokingly of course). So how is this able to be?? How can hers work and not mine?

Edit*

I think I figured out why:

I have a custom kernal while she doesnt
[Epic 4G General] ZenInsight:
The mic work while speaker is plugged in, in all Froyo leaks. This won't be an issue in the official release.
[Epic 4G General] live2ride96:
That's really good to hear, but more importantly, is the bluetooth problem fixed in froyo when the aux is used in the car? A2DP sounds like a dog turd on this phone through my car stereo, but on the other hand, the phone's mic echoes like crazy when using it with the aux, so I need the echo cancellation on my bluetooth mic.
[Epic 4G General] wildwill2002:
This problem has been solved

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=9257413

I tested it myself and it sends call audio through the speakerphone, regardless if anything is plugged into the 3.5mm.
[Epic 4G General] live2ride96:
Yeah, I saw that thread before, and I love that people are developing stuff like this to fix Samsung's screw ups. I messed around with my nexus a lot when I had it, but atm, I really don't feel like screwing with my epic. I just really wish Samsung would put out a CONSUMER product that doesn't need to be hacked to work in consumer friendly way (aka just work right). If this phone would work the way it should, I'd love it, but this phone has really soured me on Samsung as a whole, where as I used to really like their products. At least the community is doing something , because Samsung doesn't seem to be.
[General Questions and Answers] SmArt-T:
I'm using the Dutch KPN, HTC Touch Pro2... think it's a tilt2 model... none of the keyboards I could match. I have downloaded and installed 'ProjectAndroid2.2Froyo.082610.cab' and to get rid of the noise issues I replaced the ROM (Image) with 'Remove Static Sound.rar' which I have picked up from this forum.

I have been using Froyo now for a few days and I think it's great. I appreciate this is all beta, but still a marvelous OS that will let me kiss the MS OS good-bye. After resolving the noise issue (the device was giving me static all the time) I'm now left with three issues. If only I managed to solve one with your help would be great.

The first issue; My camera does not work. It gives me a background with squares and a big square that moves cris-cross over the screen. What goes wrong here? Anyone seen this before? It just drives me mad :eek: ,so please, please, help me resolve this one.

The second issue is; my GPS. It takes quite long before it finds the satellites. When indoors, using Google Maps, it drops me in the middle of Gulf of Guinea (that's south of Nigeria). There is a lot of buzz in this part of the Atlantic... so more people must suffer. It took me a while to figure out my virtual me was relocated to that area. Eventually I decided to fix the position to a known place to get me in the area where I would like to find the bars and restaurants :p. Is this an issue with the GPS or my ROM? or is this natural behavior for google maps when it could not determine the position? I also wonder if there is an application that uses the radio-connection to faster find my location, and the satellites for that same manner.

The third issue I have is with the battery. It's true that I use my phone more often... but still I think the juice is gone before I can blink my eyes. Any bright ideas on how to get this improved?

The last issue is that I suffer from a lots of OS freezes and/or reboots. I'm sure this will be addressed in future releases. I'm more than happy to have an occasional crash of the OS. That's the charm of using beta software. If anyone knows hows to deal with (one of) the above issues then I'm in heaven already!

Looking forward to your responses.

T.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] JPHCCFC:
i wouldnt downgrade it yet, take a copy of your current rom using nandroid and share it with the developers who are trying to open the bootloader - I would go onto modmymoto forums (http://modmymobile.com/forums/401-motorola-milestone/) and ask there what to do. Alternatively go onto the IRC channel (#milestone-modding) as they will know how to help you out and what to do with the current rom. IRC Log here - http://milestone.bekaakut.de/
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] mardurhack:
Follow the previous advices!! Your help might be very appreciated by the devs community ;) Thanks in advance!

PS: The Milestone (not DROID) still can't be upgraded officially to 2.2 (the only good cooked rom for Froyo is the MotoFrenzy but it uses the 2.1 kernel losing many features of the original Froyo release) so it's almost unuseful (and risky too) that you try to flash random SBFs ;)
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Braidonh:
Yes! Send your backup to the folks on #milestone-modding!
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] desolateone1:
Please tell me you sent your backup to someone who could make use of it.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] dcarr622:
Get that NAND backup to someone now! We need an unlocked bootloader!!!!!
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] hanslast:
Install Openrecovery >> Make a backup of your current system (it will write to your sd card) >> upload your backup of your current system and upload it to the internet and drop it here please : http://modmymobile.com/forums/563-m...p-2010-motofrenzy-froyo-2-2-milestone-70.html

THANKS! :D
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] DAGr8:
first of all if he is on 2.1 he cant run open recovery .

2nd you dont need to downgrade you need to flash the vulnerale recovery to unlock allpossibilities ,

what would be eally interesting to know is the bootloader version on your phone , thanks
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] kholk:
He doesn't need to flash the vulnerable recovery, his device isn't signed.

Anyway, I don't think that this will help: our devices are in High Security Mode (HS), while engineering samples are in General Purpose Mode (GP) 'cause of the chipset soldering.

It's hardware, guys.

But IF I'M WRONG it'll help a lot!
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Ok_Kaleidoscope5109:
so op disappeared? :(
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] DAGr8:
Unsigned milestone ? I am not sayin it doesnt exist , but I HIGHLY doubt it just appeared in his hand like that you know ...
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] PsyCl0ne:
Why do you think he just dissappeared?...
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] 1xinfusion:
either motorola kidnapped him or he was just lying the whole time

lol

but seriously though where did he go?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] mousiope:
My phone says in the back sideways of the battery compartment motorola engineering is this normal or of by any random chance got a engineering edition?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] JPHCCFC:
Can you post your about phone details. The base band firmware and version numbers
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Creadion:
Same here, probably normal ;)
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] mousiope:
Hmmmmmm OK i just noticed that and if bought mine from b. Stock of expansys and if thought maybe i got one from engineering edition if that exists...
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] orange2784:
Do you know mean somthing like this.. then even i have to... i think every phone has it..
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] desolateone1:
All Milestones have the "MOTOROLA ENGINEERING" in the battery compartment. It's their own signature.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] blud7:
This guy has been posting this crap since early September. The Froyo 2.2 he is talking about is the Motofrenzy one. More likely he doesn't know what he is talking about.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] divine3155:
Lol he is prolly drunk when he started this thread haha.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] blyn100:
I just bought a milestone from a guy on kijiji and it looks like it's the same as OP. As mentioned, the device seems to be unlocked (I have a rogers SIM running fine). See the screenshots for some more info - apologize for fingerprints.

Is there still a use for the image? I'm glad i found this topic before i downgraded it...
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] antonyfl:
Please do us a favour and provide a backup :) Greatly appreciated and throw this at Nadlabak or G.O.T. immediately! =D
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] MrPadie:
If you can, please upload a complete Nandroid backup of your ROM, and as selfish as it may seem, try not to touch your ROM for now - you could essentially be doing quite a few people a large favor by allowing the devs to contact you, and see if there is anything worthwhile in your ROM.

More specifically, I would contact people such as Dexter or kabaldan.

Thanks,

MrP.

EDIT: I see antonyfl beat me to it :P But seriously, please provide a Nandroid backup of your phone.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] blyn100:
Alright i've been thus far unsuccessful flashing a vunerable recovery onto this device. For some reason RSD has been unable to recognize the device when it's in bootloader (This device is running bootloader 90.70).

What i've tried so far:

3 computers (a Win7 64bit and 2 XP 32bits). All had the same problem

A few different drivers, including the newest ones from motorola's site

RSD Lite 4.6

Any help would be appreciated. I will of course do a nandroid backup and keep it on this rom for a while, but need to find a way to root it first!
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] shadowofdarkness:
According to the ninth post you shouldn't need to flash the vulnerable recovery. Have you just tried putting the Open Recovery files on the sdcard and attempting to load it.

I am not technical just noticed the ninth post that seemed to be someone with more know how.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] foreman31:
RSD works from a booted phone, try that
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] blyn100:
Okay, i can try this.

Hmm? i don't follow.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] blyn100:
Here is lsusb output from when the device was in bootloader. Perhaps someone can make sense of this.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] shadowofdarkness:
lsusb, you must also have Linux. In that case if just trying to load open recovery didn't work then try flashing the vulnerable recovery using this software under Linux

http://blog.opticaldelusion.org/2010/05/sbfflash.html#more

I have personally used it multiple times and it works great. With one exception the last time it sat on waiting for phone until i unplugged it then plugged it in again.

it is a 32bit binary but I have used in under 64bit with ia32-libs installed.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] blyn100:
Alright. still no luck - thanks for the help so far though!

Flashing the open recovery directly: Got an "E:EOCD marker occurs after start of EOCD" error and it goes nowhere.

sbf_flash: Sits at "waiting for phone" and goes nowhere. I've tried a few combinations of running it before/after device was in bootloader.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] shadowofdarkness:
I think I figured out why you can't flash. I compared your lsusb to mine and it has a few differences including the usb ids that software would look for to find the phone.

My boot loader is 90.74
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] blyn100:
Yup, i think you're right. Notably,

idVendor 0x22b8 Motorola PCS

idProduct 0x41d0

instead of

idVendor 0x18d1

idProduct 0xd00d

Is likely causing it to overlook the device.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] shadowofdarkness:
You could try getting the creator of sbf_flash to modify it for you to use your ids but be careful since it is possible your phone is different enough it could brick something.

Also not the iProduct line is different since your say "NS"... instead of my just "S"... and the only other difference is yours shows the serial and mine doesn't.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] blyn100:
Hmm, it looks like i was able to root it fine using http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=808229

Shouldn't there be a way that i can perform a nandroid backup from adb or something now? Or does this put me any closer to getting open recovery on?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] antonyfl:
Try with Open Recovery first. If not, ADB (if it is indeed rooted)
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Backdraft11:
Quite sad to hear that after all these months the bootloader hasn't been cracked yet.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] blyn100:
Sweet, okay finally got the vulnerable recovery to load. I had to start flashing the sbf while the phone was still on, RSD took care of rebooting it into bootloader and apparently it stayed recognized long enough.

Anyways, i made a nandroid backup in open recovery: http://www.multiupload.com/SAFFBZFEBA

I'll keep the rom around for a bit longer, please let me know if anything else is needed. This is from the "internal" device i found running 90.70 bootloader.

Edit: added link
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] shadowofdarkness:
Did you remember to log out of all accounts on the phone like Gmail or Facebook? I remember reading that the passwords are saved in clear text in a database.

If you forgot I recommend changing any and all passwords.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] MrPadie:
Hopefully what we are looking for wasn't in the bootloader you just changed. Pity I only saw this now, because otherwise I would've warned you against it.

But, let's see what we can make of your Nandroid backup. And yes, the above post is correct in saying that you might want to adjust your credentials.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] vladstercr:
Thanks for you cooperation blyn100. Maybe this would be helpful for the developers in order to have a cracked bootloader!
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] blyn100:
Hmm i was told that open recovery wouldn't affect the bootloader. When i boot in fastboot it still says 90.70?

Anyways, thanks for the reminders for the accounts. I think they were clear, but i was due for a password change anyways.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] blyn100:
Per request.

bootloader dump: http://www.multiupload.com/3ED9IZMY2P
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] mohitrocks:
Did you try to contact any devs such as Dexter? If not, please do and provide them your links.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] antonyfl:
agree. I think And-Developers would appreciate it more . or nadlabak
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] vladstercr:
I cant believe no developer is interested in analyzing this...I though it's in our best interest to have the bootloader unlocked :(
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] dlbogdan:
Ok, i'm not yet sure of the possible consequences ( smells a bit like a slide-o-brick ) but i think i'm ready to flash this sucker today when i get home. ... If i don't loose my cojones in the mean time :D
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Skrilax_CZ:
If you flash the BL, you'll brick your phone for 100 percent.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] dlbogdan:
i was just about to do it. Luckily i've checked here first. Thanks Skrilax_CZ!

Could you please explain why are you 100% certain? Is it because of maybe different keys? Or maybe some hardcoded settings that aren't set right on our normal devices?

can the bootloader be loaded in ram and executed from there? (would it make sense?)

You can be as technical as you want, i'll keep up somehow.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Skrilax_CZ:
Simply because the developer phones bootloaders are not signed ;)
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] vladstercr:
So how can the developers make use of this nandroid? or it doesnt worth a thing?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] hefonthefjords:
someone needs to figure out what makes the engineering sample different from the retail phone. They must come off the same production line so one must be moddable into the other.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] invd:
Just a question: is this topic dead? can't this help us further?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] vladstercr:
if no developer cares to reply...it seems that is dead!
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Ifiuse:
This is stupid...

1) All milestones have written Engineering Edition in his back.

2) Even this milestone have the "bootloader unlocked" you wont have your bootloader unlocked just for a nandroid, there are other files wich define that, and nandroid back up dont touch that. And if it do,probably, your phone will be bricked.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] vladstercr:
read the whole thread before doing comments like this
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Ifiuse:
The second point is right, nandroid dont touch bootloader, and i have read all the post.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] dasilva333:
You obviously didnt read the whole thread because if you did you would've noticed this post:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=9055689&postcount=22

Now I dont know about everyone else but my phone didn't come with those markings and that certainly means its an unlocked phone. It would be interesting to see what would happen if he tries to flash it with a CDMA Droid image, it might not boot but it might also not give him the same error we usually get.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] vladstercr:
Can you contact blyn100?

I tried via message but he doesnt respond... If his bootloader is unlocked he should try what you mentioned above!
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] max_3000:
This thread should be stickied IMO. This might be the key to making our Milestones be insanely awesome!
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] shiftyd00d:
don't get so excited!

Guys,

don't get so excited by those phones, they are distributed to a random select few of us internally during late testing of the handset and represent the release to manufacturing version (which indeed was in manufacturing by then). The only real difference between them and the final retail versions is.... well... the engraving at the bottom of the handset to stop us selling them on ebay!! Versions that become available on ebay before the handset is formally released gets the legal team very excited because they are traceable from the IMEI back to the original moto staff member that has signed an NDA etc.

They will all have locked bootloaders as far as i know, since the sholes development line that became the milestone was pretty much completely separate to that that became the US droid from very early on, and had different hardware specs/design goals (GSM vs CDMA etc etc). I suspect they just forgot with the droid and by then it was too late :)

There are a few of those still in use at the office, and one is running miui 2.2 as of today :)

Oh and you certainly cannot flash droid images to a milestone, nor vice versa - the hardware is very very different. It certainly goes much further than supporting the same frequencies, they are completely different transmission technologies. It certainly makes no sense to make handsets that have the hardware to support both GSM and CDMA costwise.

Anyway, believe me or don't, but i really don't think any actual milestone hardware was ever produced without the locked/signed bootloader.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] blyn100:
Um... you didn't send me a message.

Anyways - fear not i did do a bootloader dump (not just nandroid) and provided it to whoever i could find. From discussions on #milestone-modding it seems that it was not, after all, the flux capacitor to our DeLorean. Shiftyd00d seems legit.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] dasilva333:
As far as flashing a Droid image onto a milestone it obviously wont work and you'll have to reflash a regular Milestone rom afterwards, the point of such exercise is to see if it fails during startup rather than during the bootloader sequence.

I dont believe you because I personally know someone who has a milestone without a locked or signed bootloader, so i call bs as far as 'the hardware was never created' bit.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] greglord:
Maybe if you ask him nicely to borrow a phone for an hour or two then?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] vladstercr:
Dude...Can you get your hands on that phone? Do a bootloader dump? :)
[Droid 2 General] 640k:
I can't stand the messenger on the D2. I want to have every message send when I hit enter, instead I have to press the send button on the screen.

1. Does someone have the default messenger apk from froyo (or whatever)?

2. If I install it, will it work like Chomp and let me choose it as a default app?
[Droid 2 General] fibofan:
Same

I did it on my Droid Incredible. Found an old mms version and installed it then updated it and it works great, However I did totally delete the sense mms app. I would love to do it on my wifes D2 but can't find the original .apk...

Update: I googled "mms.apk" and found a couple downloads, worth a shot anyway. If they don't work right check for an update before you delete it.

I'll try it on my wife's D2 later today
[Droid 2 General] 640k:
keep me updated and a link to the one you ended up using.
[Droid 2 General] metman87:
if your only issue is wanting to press enter to send a message, i found today that if you just hit the right arrow after you're done typing, the cursor jumps right to the send button. then all you do is press enter. one extra key press. not too bad a work around.
[Droid 2 General] ecnahc:
i was able to pull the mms.apk from my original droid and install it on my d2.

contact pictures were not showing up and i'm not sure how the phone would react if i reached the 1000 message limit with the stock app. but it works.. kinda
[Droid 2 General] Ty07allstar:
Check this thread out, http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/droid-2-mods/4510-tranquility-droid-2-a.html. Gets rid of the Blur and it has the stock messaging app.
[Droid 2 General] 640k:
i wouldn't say it's my only issue, but it's a decent one. i'll try this, although i'm not happy about it.
[Droid 2 General] rtfield:
I have a stock Mms.apk if someone wants I can email it to you so you can post it up for everyone.

fieldrt@gmail.com
[Droid 2 General] Terri M:
I tried and *loved* the Tranquility ROM, but at the same time I love having the Blur and Social Networking apps on my D2. Is there any way that I could just get the original FRG22D stock mms.apk to work on my D2? I've already bricked my original Droid2, and I don't want to brick this one!
[Droid 2 General] S.Meezy:
DL the file, extract the stock messaging app, install it on ur phone... ?
[Droid 2 General] S.Meezy:
Install HTC IME keyboard... on my phone or id link it... i think its under nexus 1 themes in here... u can customize ur keyboard and theres n option "enter key sends message in stock messaging app" or something to that extent
[Droid 2 General] Terri M:
I was able to extract the mms.apk file from the Tranquility ROM. I renamed conversations.apk to conversations.apk.bak, then clicked on and installed the mms.apk. I have no problem sending or receiving sms and mms. I'm loving it!
[Droid 2 General] Terri M:
640k,

If you are interested in the mms.apk from Tranquility, PM me and I'll send it your way.
[Droid 2 General] Angdroid:
If you go to droidforums.net and search for user AngDroid and then find the post for the android MMS app, I placed instructions there what needs to be removed and the mms file to download...