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[XPERIA X10 General] alankstiyo:
if its branded you will have to say bye to root if is not branded then you're kinda lucky but still have to root it again XD
[XPERIA X10 General] fdomartineza:
lol

thanxs for the info (Y)
[XPERIA X10 General] naveen_reloaded:
thnks was about to ask the same question
[XPERIA X10 General] fig_jam_uk:
Im pinning my hopes on "universal androot" to re-root when the update to 2.1 happens. ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] npk21:
Its september 20th today...i guess update would come at 23rd in india...but there is nothing written or predicted by SE official site of india...that means it is sure that we may get updates in october i guesss!!!!
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
its been tested, doesn't work
[XPERIA X10 General] dundun1701:
Today is 20th, not 23rd nor 30th September
[XPERIA X10 General] npk21:
.............................

yeah but someone told that india might get its update on 23rd ... but there is no date confirmed on any site....hence i think we are going to get update after october!!!
[XPERIA X10 General] fig_jam_uk:
NOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo :(
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
I'm glad I didn't root, I think I'd miss it. And I would rate 2.1 over rooted 1.6...
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
SE never give out exact dates in advance.. You'll just get the update one day... If they gave a date their servers would get hammered, this way it smooths the peak a little.
[XPERIA X10 General] mattyslost:
I spoke to them back in August as I was moaning when the update was coming as my misses had the update on Orange as soon as it was released in the UK. Anyway they said that we would be getting 2.1 in October but didnt know anything about the update.

Considering it took 02 nearly 1 month after the UK release to release the R2BA026 update. I will not be holding my breath for the 2.1 update.

Id say we will get it closer to November!
[XPERIA X10 General] stevegbee:
Will i lose contacts and apps when the update actually comes?
[XPERIA X10 General] Cholek3:
Yes. It will overwrite everything stored on you phone, but NOT SD card. You will have to back it up.
[XPERIA X10 General] ronniecross:
On the note of backups, I use one called MyBackup Pro which also has a 30 day free trial (ideal if you just want to back up for the 2.1 upgrade) which backs up applications (APK + DATA) and loooooads of other stuff, like contacts + Calendar (though I use GMAIL) home screen, settings, bookmarks, SMS, MMS, call logs, alarms, dictionary, etc and you can back up to file on SD or to cloud. best backup manager I've found.

Going back a few pages to screen protectors in the box, etc, when I got my XPERIA it come with a little fabric pouch, which I've never ever heard of anyone else mention, and it says XPERIAtm Sony Ericsson on it. Did nobody else get this? I googled it on google images and saw nothing about it, just loads of 3rd party leather cases, etc. I love my little pouch, but i got that instead of a second screen protector, but im fine with that! after about 4 months my phone is still really clean because its always in the pouch when im not using it, unless im drunk, so it does have a few beer rings on it lol
[XPERIA X10 General] DaddyDan:
How can you back up the apps or can these be downloaded again without charge from the app market?
[XPERIA X10 General] metcard:
purchased apps are linked to your google account, so you dont have to pay to download them again. Just log into the Market, click Downloads and they should be there on your list ready to be downloaded.

You can also use Astro File Manager to back up apps to your SD card.
[XPERIA X10 General] xarchitect:
There is something that i have been pondering about for quite some time !!! since i didn't want to create a new thread for this, i thought i will ask it here ( since this thread is vey active ;) )!!!

Why does sonyericsson take such a long time in bring out android 2.1, when it is already tamed by the others???

Why on earth do they need to lock up an OS which itself is open source??

As i read in some other threads, Why is Xperia x10 screen as expensive as the once that support multi touch??

Now the main question is ARE THEY TRYING TO LOCK BEAST (xperia x10) IN THE CAGE??

AND

this is to the devs !! CAN I GET A DEVICE THAT SUPPORTS MULTITOUCH AND EVERYTHING THAT OS CAN SUPPORT WHICH SE SAYS IT CANNOT, AND LOCK IT ?? SO THAT IT CANNOT BE ACCESSED !!!!

NOTE :- MODERATORS CAN DELETE THIS POST, IF THESE QUESTIONS WERE ALREADY POSTED!!
[XPERIA X10 General] ronniecross:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/SXCTrance/2010-09-20101558.jpg?t=1284974262
[XPERIA X10 General] cvchetan:
thats actually a nice pouch..

but we in india did get a leather type pouch that has quite some padding.. and yes also the second screen protector!!:D:D:D:D:D
[XPERIA X10 General] mattyslost:
I got one too. Must be an 02 thing as my misses didnt get one and she is with Orange.
[XPERIA X10 General] Cinner:
Maybe because the X10 was their first Android device and they are new at this?
[XPERIA X10 General] ronniecross:
hah! I want the leather one!!

I've always been interested in the Noreve pouch, but as gorgeous as it looks, i've never been too certain how i'd cope with the style, with the pouch folding down whilst im on a call.

http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/noreve-tradition-a-leather-case-for-sony-ericsson-xperia-x10-p24129.htm
[XPERIA X10 General] Contrarian:
Yeah, it's sad that carriers don't know anything about the release since my understanding has always been that Phone companies will release updates to them for customization ie. carrier specific apps.

Don't expect to receive your update directly from SE if the phone is branded. This is why I flashed to a generic ROM, although who knows if it will make any difference.
[XPERIA X10 General] ronniecross:
I'm really not sure, on this one, normally when you flash branded phone with a generic rom it will prevent you from ever being able to use SEUS again.... but last week I got a notification saying an update was available, and sure enough it updated via. SEUS, so I'm really not sure!

But I think it was just because it was a tiny update, and possibly not a carrier specific update (though I strangely can't see O2 allowing that) but my thoughts are if you have a generic rom, you will need to manually flash it to get 2.1, once your regional generic rom is available.
[XPERIA X10 General] xarchitect:
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/devel...-live-wallpapers-from-draining-phone-battery/

this is wat SE is working on !! hehe!! may be !! :rolleyes:
[XPERIA X10 General] Contrarian:
"normally when you flash branded phone with a generic rom it will prevent you from ever being able to use SEUS again"

Not true. It must use a centralized sony/cloud server to deliver the update. When I first flashed my phone to gereric uk I was immediately notified of an update. In fact, the region actually changes so your phone won't go back to the original branding just because SEUS is used.
[XPERIA X10 General] ronniecross:
oh ok, my understanding is wrong then, that's just info i've picked up from elsewhere, i.e. warnings when flashing, etc.
[XPERIA X10 General] naplesbill:
SEUS stops working when debrand an X10a with an X10i firmware.
[XPERIA X10 General] ronniecross:
So with a debranded firmware, should I get the generic UK firmware via. SEUS, as and when the Generic UK firmware is available???
[XPERIA X10 General] naplesbill:
As long as you haven't flashed an X10a with X10i firmware or X10i with X10a firmware, SEUS should still work just fine.
[XPERIA X10 General] ronniecross:
hoorah!!! Now I cant wait, even more!! :D
[XPERIA X10 General] xperiac:
anyone get 2.1?

it's 20 sep today!
[XPERIA X10 General] thefunkaygibbon:
As far as I am aware there was no official date for release was there?

I don't think anyone has though, I'm pretty sure someone would have posted that they have it already

I would love to be wrong and for someone to post a 2.1 image on here for us to 'debrand' to, just don't think its today.
[XPERIA X10 General] ronniecross:
The release date was WC 20th, which means anytime between now and sunday, as far as I am aware. Anyhow, I recon it will be russia to get it first, though don't hold me to that, just after Russian SE tweeted the update was sooner than we think. Though to be fair, we're now in that time frame we thought it would be released, so Russia throwing in a red-herring, there.
[XPERIA X10 General] xperiac:
I think UK must be the first one!

because there is a SE HQ there!
[XPERIA X10 General] ronniecross:
would be nice!
[XPERIA X10 General] Contrarian:
be very surprised if it arrives before thursday
[XPERIA X10 General] DaddyDan:
It'll arrive on Sunday at 23:59:59!!!
[XPERIA X10 General] pamodio2305:
Hi, i'm new to this forum. So are we feeling hopeful about getting the update on thursday?
[XPERIA X10 General] Sighx:
Nope. 0 faith.
[XPERIA X10 General] pamodio2305:
Great! :-)
[XPERIA X10 General] Ballfuzz:
lol so much excitement over something so small.

I can't wait to see all the threads with people bashing 2.1 soon!

:D:D
[XPERIA X10 General] brunswick000:
Ya id have to say that considering that SE is splitting the 2.1 update into two phases im less than excited about getting it at all. Plus the exclusion of 1 mill colors is lame. I think were going to get the update and everyone is going to so freakin crazy and then they're going to install it and be like wtf is this?
[XPERIA X10 General] Ballfuzz:
Yeah! lol, huge let down.

Even if it had everything, then what? Once it's on, it's done. Begin the whining for 2.2 or 3.0?

ha :p
[XPERIA X10 General] fdomartineza:
+1

the only thing i've been expecting is 720p recording
[XPERIA X10 General] jojosplace:
Has the exclusion of the upgraded colours been confirmed?!? Is there a link? I can't search the forum, from some reason my work computer stops drow down boxes an the life from working. :confused:
[XPERIA X10 General] the_black_dragon:
hmm funny....

http://www.pocketpc.ch/sony-ericsson-xperia-x10/105382-update-da-5.html#post746124

here we had exactly the same discussion like here one hour before....

please ppl..... if you are happy than everything is good..... if you are unhappy than please sell it to anybody who is happy and stop bashing here!!!!!!!
[XPERIA X10 General] lornova:
I would say too much excitement over something so small.
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
Every update has been announced over a week ahead of time here in Japan, on SE's website and Docomo's website, complete with a basic breakdown of new features/fixes.
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
So is there nothing as of now on those websites?
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
No, because today was a national holiday.... this week contains a few, so I doubt anything will be announced.

However, SE Japan stated back in June that 2.1 would be an October release here.
[XPERIA X10 General] speeee:
its funny how everyones complaining about Not getting this and not getting that,

What did you expect really. a brand new phone? your phone to suddently become top of the range so you can make everyone with a galaxy/iphone jealous

get real lol, the X10 is outdated already, and it always will be

dont get me wrong, i love my phone and personally i think its the best phone ive ever owned,

but stop complaining over things you cant/wont get

the only real thing 2.1 will provide is a few new apps for us all to F**k around with for a few weeks till you all get bored and start complaining about the lack of 2.2
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
Its quite hilarious actually... the way the mood of this thread swings... if you look back to when the thread started.. people were all asking about when 2.1 is coming, what features it has, etc. Then, once the roadmap etc were leaked, there was an initial phase of excitement following all that.

Now, I think the excitement has been split into 2 groups.. one group can hardly wait for 2.1, and the other group is trying to make excuses on SEs behalf that it won't be anything great and don't get their hopes up so that when it actually does come out they won't be disappointed

What a great lesson in human psychology :)
[XPERIA X10 General] scorpion100:
Just said what was going on with my head,everywhere I go someone whinning about it and complainning well go buy anohter phone and sell your xperia or if you are stuck for 2 years like me on a contract,well just accept it sometimes you get bluffed in your life and this is one of those times.Get on with your life people trust me there is so many things in life better than xperia and SE .
[XPERIA X10 General] JonRushton:
I did think that it was going to be something great, but looking at what is changing, Im wondering if the extra bugs that will no doubt be added is worth it.

That said, im more than happy with the phone how i have it now. Personally, I dont use any of the X10 specific apps, such as Timscape and Mediascape.

One thing i do hope they add is the ability to connect to hidden SSID wifi networks... unless im missing something.

Either way, with or without the update, ill still have the same phone for another 12 months, and im sure ill do exactly the same thing ive done over the last 8 or so years, and pine over a phone until its released then find some reason to complain about it, and then have the phone i THINK i want come out just after its too late to change my mind! :)

So all in all, im going to see the outcome of whatever the update does as positive!

Jon
[XPERIA X10 General] naplesbill:
Can't you just add a network manually and type the SSID?
[XPERIA X10 General] argnom:
I use hidden WIFI with hidden SSIDs on a daily bassis with no problems.

Anybody else had this issue?
[XPERIA X10 General] JonRushton:
Oh, it just seems to assume that because it cant see it, that its out of range. And i cant see any way to force a connection. long pressing on the network just gives me the option to change password and forget.

Ill have another play tonight when im home. Maybe im missing something obvious :)
[XPERIA X10 General] argnom:
Maybe not. I setup the connexions a while ago. There was something strange. I fist setup the connexion manually. The X10 remembered it, but it was not in range. After a few seconds, it "saw" the hidden WIFI router and, when I tried to connect to it, it asked me for a password. So now, I have 2 connexions remembered for the hidden WIFI. One thats always "remebered, but out of range" and the other one that I can connect to.

Hopefully, this will help a little.
[XPERIA X10 General] brunswick000:
Im pretty sure i wasnt bashing. None the less id have to agree the banter gets a little out of control. Im not "unhappy" with my X10 at all. Its still the best phone ive had to date. I just find it amusing how people are sooooo gaga over this update. Its like getting a new car. You know you only have enough to buy a beater, but you have convienced yourself that its gonna be a Lambo. Then you get it and you cant understand why it cant break the 60 mph mark. Kind of like still believing in santa clause.
[XPERIA X10 General] Chewitt:
He Dont :confused: :(

With or with out 2.1 the X10 is a serious market contender for the customer group it was aimed at and so SE will be happy with there dabble into android. Remember we are a VERY VERY small minority group and SE made this handset for the masses.
[XPERIA X10 General] alankstiyo:
it is a nice contender, if you just consider functions, power.

the OS is a big diff i know but the x10 is still nice
[XPERIA X10 General] rvictorg:
Umm we've been complaining about lack of Froyo since early May. I personally don't understand why people are excited about 2.1 and not outraged why we're not getting Froyo like every other highend device on the market. Is everyone forgetting this petition? http://www.petitiononline.com/froyo/petition.html

There's currently more than 15,000 signatures on that petition, I wouldn't necessarily label that a very very small minority. I think the general public is at least aware of Flash support and why SE wouldn't want to market that feature like say Motorola is, does not make any sense to me whatsoever. Crippling your device with outdated software is not good for anyone whether they're tech savvy or not you can recognize when a device is snappy and bug free. And for every "lay person" who asks me about my phone (and a lot do, just like I'm sure all your friends/family ask all you for tech advice) what do I tell them? Don't get this phone. I'm reasonably satisfied with it especially given the options we had in Canada when I got it in April (but I had to do tons of customizing rooting etc to get it to its current state, much more than any normal consumer would do) having said that I can not recommend this device to anyone considering the other better ones on the market. If this was running stock Froyo, different story for sure.
[XPERIA X10 General] I7redd:
So not promoting Flash (by not supporting froyo) has something to do with Playstation Consoles?

:(
[XPERIA X10 General] alankstiyo:
that's a good question but the PS3 has flash o.0
[XPERIA X10 General] I7redd:
Mainly referring PSPs.. (similar sized screen, similar game specs, and specifically, similarly nobbled flash version)
[XPERIA X10 General] solo13:
Totally agree with your point .

come on guys it wont be the first or the last phone , me or you will buy , few months and all of us will rushing to buy another new handset.

last week i was working on my phone getting it rooted , then i was thinking (why do i need to root it? . just to get few more applications ? , am satisfied with the current applications am satisfied even with Timescape . the only reason that i was working on it is to get the market on my phone.

Trust me , once we got 2.1 we will be asking about 2.2 then again we will start asking about 3 . live with it guys ((( we are never satisfied )) and producing companies lives on that.

i miss my old SE.
[XPERIA X10 General] Chewitt:
As for Froyo, Its main use is for handsets with a low memory for app storage for App's to SD, we have no need for this as our app mem is large and also 720p Video (what SE have put into there 2.1)

As for 15,000 been a lot of people, that is a simple drop in the water. DoCoMo alone sold over 120,000 the company i used to work for was selling on average 2,000 a day. So if you think that 15,000 X10 users will rock the SE board meetings you need to broaden your eyes to a fully global company environment.
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
120,000 a month. Not total. That would be an incredible failure if it was the total amount.

I see about as many Xperias as I do iPhone 4s on the trains these days.
[XPERIA X10 General] roaringhere:
15,000? Hardly worth the bother for a company. They have sold millions already... :)
[XPERIA X10 General] garyt82:
@ iead1

I beg to differ! My gf has a hero and is hasnt worked fine from day one. And my previous phone, nokia n97 mini, was as useless as an ashtray on a motorbike. Never worked properly, serious lagging and basically crap. Its not just SE that release phones with issues
[XPERIA X10 General] I7redd:
Look, Air apps are coming to the Android marketplace soon. The first site i went to said.. "MORE GAMES!" which is true, but the conspiracy-minded person want's to know if Sony (which makes a good chunk of money selling games for it's own consoles) is anti-flash, and if this is the reason for the lack of Froyo on SE's roadmap, or if the slow rollout of 2.1 is in any way linked to this.

Adobe's Air-for-Android device list clearly states that X10's CPU (ARMv7) is fully supported. So we just want to know if the lack of Froyo is a strategic delaying tactic, because as the previous poster suggests, it makes no sense to have a perfectly capable smartphone which is purposely crippled unless there's more money behind it.

In short, we want clear signal from SE about Froyo regards Flash/Air support. If some of you are happy with 1.6 or 2.1 then that's another story entirely.
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
Did you sign up for an account just to say that you missed my sarcasm completely...? :(

Well, I'm not sure why Sony Ericsson would care about Sony Computer Entertainment's profits, seeing as they're entirely different companies.

You gotta make more sense here. SE's not going to release a phone next year with 1.6, it'll obviously have a newer OS, that will be capable of running anything that is released for Adobe AIR or Flash, or whatever.

There's no "purposely" crippling the phone, because for that to be true, then it means SE will never release a new Android phone.
[XPERIA X10 General] metcard:
How long does it take SE to upload a 200mb file? Upload the thing already.

BTW, would it be better to apply this update via OTA or through SEUS or maybe no difference?
[XPERIA X10 General] chongbh:
Yes, it has been rumoured that they will be coming a new X12 based on new specs and 12 MP Camera.
[XPERIA X10 General] Contrarian:
I can see a lot of phone manufacturers running away from Android once Gingerbread is released. As I understand things, google will control every aspect of the user interface, meaning absolutely no customization to differentiate one phone from another. Didn't another company we all love to hate do that in the PC market??

The future lies with the more efficient Meego OS in my opinion and since QT will be backwards compatible with Symbian, I can't see Android appearing on any Smartphone other than HTC handsets.

Sorry to go off topic, but it does go a long way in explaining why Sony Ericsson doesn't want to jump into bed with Google just yet.
[XPERIA X10 General] I7redd:
Hmm, hard to be sure. What if their next Android is the much rumored PSP-Phone? It would have PSP game capability, which would give Sony a unique selling point in an increasingly crowded smartphone market, but also re-invigorate their existing game sales. If it's just an X12 pre-loaded with gingerbread then maybe, but X10 owners are still left hacking froyo onto X10 themselves.

I did say "delaying tactic". ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] ronniecross:
http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...e-world-s-largest-android-phone-supplier.html - you sure about that?
[XPERIA X10 General] Wolfbreak:
SE dont have much experience with Android and the other like HTC,Samsung had released many Phones for Android so thats why SE is slower probably they had many Problems and thats why they took so long to release but now its Time for 2.1 to come out, i hope it will come this Week.
[XPERIA X10 General] vengeance1990:
This is update is via seus, the second update later this year will be ota

Sent my rooted X10i using XDA app
[XPERIA X10 General] chongbh:
Yes, I agree with that as HTC is the first to produce Google's first phone so they are experienced than SE.

Probably SE Software Engineer is working hard on analyzing the Android OS since they have the intention to become World's Largest Android Supplier.

I will still get back SE Android phone in future as I like their phone build quality, technology and battery technology as well. :p

After jumping to other brands like Motorola, HTC, Samsung, I still prefer SonyEricsson.
[XPERIA X10 General] Contrarian:
" Originally Posted by Contrarian View Post

I can see a lot of phone manufacturers running away from Android once Gingerbread is released. As I understand things, google will control every aspect of the user interface, meaning absolutely no customization to differentiate one phone from another. Didn't another company we all love to hate do that in the PC market??

The future lies with the more efficient Meego OS in my opinion and since QT will be backwards compatible with Symbian, I can't see Android appearing on any Smartphone other than HTC handsets.

Sorry to go off topic, but it does go a long way in explaining why Sony Ericsson doesn't want to jump into bed with Google just yet.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...-supplier.html - you sure about that?"

Very sure.
[XPERIA X10 General] qwer23:
With Android being completely open source, which it will still be in Gingerbread, how would they manage to prevent companies from customizing the UI?
[XPERIA X10 General] xarchitect:
http://www.intomobile.com/2010/09/02/gingerbread-android-3-honeycomb/

i found it interesting !! so posted !! :D:D:D:D:D:D