yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] ralphclark:
It's true that reducing voltage (which we can't do) would be more effective as power consumption at a given clock frequency is proportional to the square of the voltage, but you're wrong to dismiss frequency control as a power saving strategy because at any given voltage, power consumption is proportional to frequency. Hence Intel's "speed step" technology used in notebook CPU's.

Juice Defender and SetCPU are doing more or less the same thing as Intel speed step.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] cashyftw:
We CAN reduce voltages with the right kernel... Dragon TEST 5 kernel.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] xriderx66:
^ correct with the voltage control app from the market i believe.

Between setCPU and juice defender..

i say juice defender.

Set CPU is a hassle.

It shuts your phone off sometimes with profiles on, and freezes it etc.

If your phone experiences any of those problems, uninstall setcpu and bam, your phone is normal again.

SetCPU is only good for overclocking, and sometimes sucks at that too.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] burntrat:
Yeah, that's what happened to me with setcpu. Every time the screen turned off, the phone turned off as well.

With juice defender, I lost a lot more battery. About 15% in 3 hrs of standby vs. 3-4% in 3 hrs of standby without any power saving apps.

If people are having good results with both apps, could you please show how you set it up? I may have not set it up right.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] MilkPudding:
Same here.

I figured that people who got positive results from all the battery-saving apps are the ones that use their phones aggressively and switching between all types of connections (wifi/bluetooth/gps). I use my phone normal, so I'm better off without apps like that.

If I remembered correctly, it's because you've set the frequencies way too low for your phone to function properly.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] flyboyzeya:
http://newyork.craigslist.org/que/mob/1929053266.html

hes selling this and not saying thank you or anything. he should give credit to xda!!!!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pixine786:
Damn... sorry to see this
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] htcfreak:
Fell pity of people who take credit for others hard work..!!!

That guy should you shot dead..!!!/
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] RunNgun42:
I dont really see the problem here, you are paying for a service, like getting an oil change. Sure you could do it yourself, but if you're lazy & dont have the time/intelligence, let someone else do it for $15. I dont see him "taking credit" for anything here.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] qipengart:
Uh... I don't see anything wrong with this. I mean it's like goin to Midas for a car fix here.

Honestly the fact that he is helping others isn't a negative thing. It's not like we own these methods but share them amongst each other.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] joshkoss:
as we can see, everyone has different opinions regarding this, and i've seen before it quickly becoming a flame war...

Closing thread before this becomes the same.

Peace,

Josh
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mycodenameis:
Ive read in some topic (on CM forums) that a guy installed another kernel for his HTC Magic 32A (brian kernel) and that it solved his wifi problem.

Now my question is, can I reflash my kernel without having to reinstall everything?

and if the brian kernel doesnt help my wifi problem, can i just reflash again, back to the CM one?

Thx in advance!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] pgwipeout:
You sure can, pull the boot.img and reflash it, but I would suggest you just Nandroid backup, that way if you do not like the kernel you can just change back. I have had great success using different kernels fixing the wifi issue with the new driver.
[General Questions and Answers] darknessking62:
i dont know if its rigth place to ask but i have a huge problem with my PDA.

2 days ago i installed a cab named WinampQ(or something) to my 6.5.X HTC Touch.but then that cab deleted my Windows media player files in the windows file.so i cant play mp3s nor ringtones.i mean phone isnt ringing anymore.

and all i want is if anyone with same version of WM can send me the media player files.

and please dont ask me to hard reset or load a new rom.because this rom is special from my programmer friend.
[EVO 4G General] Mbai2:
I reserved an Epic 4G for pick up today from the Sprint Store but decided to play around with a demo before buying it. Good thing I did. As the title suggests, I ended up walking out of the store with my Evo still activated.

The Epic has some things going for it. The appearance of the screen is amazing, as every single review has said already. The keyboard feels pretty good but unless I'm composing a long e-mail or typing up a word document, I'd rather just use the soft keyboard for quick texts and brief e-mails. The GPU on the Epic is also much better than the Epic. I downloaded Quadrant and the 3D graphics tests were hitting 30-50 FPS range where the Evo would only get to 15-20 FPS. Also, the Epic has Gorilla Glass...enough said about that.

Now for the bad. The soft keys are a pain in the ass when they dim. You can't tell what you are pressing until you've already hit the wrong one. The camera is not that great. I took a picture of the inside of the store with both the Evo and Epic. Both cameras were set to their max resolutions with minimum image compression. On the Evo, I could zoom in on the snapped picture and make out the weave in the carpet. But on the Epic, all I could see were colorful blobs. You wouldn't think the screen size would matter much but this was also very noticeable when using the soft keyboard and tapping on links with the browser zoomed out. Much easier to do on the Evo. Quadrant also gave the Epic (2.1) 900 vs the Evo (2.2) 1400 score index. I wish I had a 2.1 Evo to compare scores but that was all I had. Subjectively, I liked the look and feel of the Evo more than the Epic. The Evo looks slick and feels dense like a piece of jewelry where as the Epic looks like, well, a plastic phone.

Everything else was a draw. If I did not already have the Evo, I'd have a much harder time deciding which one to walk out of the store with. However, since I already had the Evo, I felt it wasn't worth the hassle to switch phones for a questionably minor change.
[EVO 4G General] nebenezer:
Thanks for the run down.

I'm so eager to see what people think of the Epic.

I don't have very high expectations for it, I'm still smitten with my EVO :D
[EVO 4G General] boodies:
if you guys own an evo, I don't think there is enough benefit to outweigh the new price unless you need the latest and greatest cpu/gpu. But for someone coming in looking for a new phone, the Epic wins handsdown. I mean there is no real comparison here. I've been using my Vibrant for a month now and literally, every other screen I look at looks like crap. Including the evo. I've used my friends evo and it is laggy as well. But either way, a phone is a phone right?

This is without 2.2 lol. Once 2.2 hits you can expect 3000+ The pic below is not mine but mine hits 2250, every thing/program/etc runs instantly. This so called lag fix is nothing special. Other manufacturers uses it on their phones not sure why Sammy didn't include it from the factory. I don't think any other phone out there in the WOrld ever hit over 2000 lol.
[EVO 4G General] omegasun18:
I am pretty sure Caulk has a screen shot of his hitting 3000+. Apparently it is not hard to mess with the scores and that the way it currently determines the scores is very flawed.
[EVO 4G General] Pao23:
I use my screen outside! :eek:

:p
[EVO 4G General] EliWay:
I just came back from a Sprint store expecting to be absolutely overwhelmed by the Epic screen. I was not. In fact, I was underwhelmed.

I honestly was expecting to be blown away. But I was not. In fact, I think the Evo display looks better! Why?

1. Color seemed to be oversatured

2. The screen is REALLY pixelated. I mean not just a little. More pixelated than an iPhone 3GS, I kid you not. I was shocked. I was expecting it to be really crisp since it's same resolution as the EVO on a screen that's physically smaller. But seriously, why hasn't anyone mentioned this? It's hard to spot pixels on the evo screen, that's absolutely not the case with the Epic. The Evo screen looks like a Retina display compared to the Epic. Go to a Sprint store if you haven't and see it for yourself. Again, i am EXTREMELY surprised no one has mentioned it, even in reviews.

3. White is not white, it's blue.

Everything else was really nice. But I was seriously underwhelmed with the screen.
[EVO 4G General] martyzidek:
I went in to look at since still under 30 days. Kept my evo. Screen is really nice but damn that .3 inch is a killer. Also didn't like the bottom buttons. Nice keyboard. Had a tp2 which I loved the keyboard. But I always went back to the screen on it. It looked like the settings for contrast was all the way up. I'm sticking to my evo. Wasn't impressed with the epic. Just the screen. For what I do or what phones are capable to do right now with apps the evo is fine.
[EVO 4G General] Philosuffer:
After looking at your history of cell phones, I have no choice but to believe you.
[EVO 4G General] boodies:
lol, nothing but denials. that's just human nature. :)
[EVO 4G General] afreed1:
I reserved an epic but bought an evo last friday.the evo is smaller edge to edge but has a larger screen.there may be problems with the epic gps and many more roms are currently available for the evo.
[EVO 4G General] Gimik:
huh? this makes no sense. People that have the ability to trade in their current phones for the new phone are not doing so because they don't like it.

I don't even have a choice, but I wouldn't get it because of its smaller screen and physical keyboard. I do wish the Evo had a better CPU/GPU combo though.
[EVO 4G General] garyfunk:
They say the grass is always greener on the other side of the septic tank.
[EVO 4G General] EliWay:
Dude, trust me. If the Epic was better, I would have gotten it. I can change phones like I change clothes. Also, your post has irony written all over it lmao.
[EVO 4G General] sintricate:
I'll have to stroll into a radioshack some time soon to check it out. I've had my Evo for 5 days so I still have time to switch. I've been enjoying my Evo so far though so it'll be hard for Samsung to win me over.
[EVO 4G General] EliWay:
After you do can you please also confirm that the screen is Pixelated as hell? My brother has an iPhone 4 and kept rubbing in how he couldn't see pixels on the Retina display, until I showed my EVO and he couldn't either. lol.

The Epic's screen is so pixelated it actually makes it a deal breaker to me. I am just stunned no one else has mentioned it, it's just so glaring to me.

P.s.: I don't think radioshack stores have working models on display. Just dummies.
[EVO 4G General] sintricate:
You might just be right. I saw a Tmobile Vibrant on demo at RadioShack last week and it was playing a movie and it looked really pixelated. I wasn't sure if it was just the movie or what since it was stuck on some kind of demo mode. I'll report back as soon as I'm able to play around with an Epic.
[EVO 4G General] martyzidek:
I can confirm this. I was eligible to get it today over my evo but I didn't..
[EVO 4G General] Indiana Jones:
im getting flashbacks

this is a Hero VS Samsung Moment decision all over again. From the Hero's light leakage to the moments blue hue and a-moled screen. Even then the Samsung moment had a better processor. I chose the Samsung moment because of the build quality and regretted the decision. I can assume the Epic wont be treated like a bastard step child. I think more people were happy with the Hero than the Samsung moment. Part of that , i recognize is the fact that Samsung never advertised the Moment. I am going out on a limb and predict that this phone is too large (thickness) for mass appeal. Regardless of how you paint it and how many specs you can throw out, it is not as sexy as that "idevice". I hope i made the right choice purchasing the EVO :) no more bulging pockets!
[EVO 4G General] joackie27:
Any evo owner anticipating the t-mo g2 though?
[EVO 4G General] Philosuffer:
I'm assuming any current Evo owners that dislike the Vibrant/Epic would also dislike the G2, the G2 and Vibrant/Epic seem to be in the same class.

The only two things I would want from the Vibrant/Epic is its CPU/GPU combo and 16GB on-board NAND, everything else is a con to me, compared to the Evo.
[EVO 4G General] sintricate:
I just switched over to Sprint from the Evo last week. I hope Tmobile doesn't come out with a phone that would make me regret that decision any time soon :p
[EVO 4G General] goodelyfe:
i heard they ripped that out for the epic and only gave it 1gb internal, right?
[EVO 4G General] joackie27:
cyanogen may have a different opinion when it comes to the g2.

http://twitter.com/cyanogen/status/22278518682
[EVO 4G General] ttieder:
Ok I got both phones rite now I used my upgrade for the epic but I have the evo. To the epic is overall better but its not that much better I'm going to stick with the evo with the dev. Community so strong but I'm going to test the epic for the next 30 days
[EVO 4G General] EliWay:
The CDMA variants of the Galaxy S, Epic/Fascinate only come with 1gb internal NAND =(. At least they include a 16gb microSD to make up for it...Still disappointing though
[EVO 4G General] Philosuffer:
Ah ok. Even less of a reason to want an Epic then. Just want the CPU/GPU combo then ;)
[EVO 4G General] EliWay:
Yeah, same here. Snapdragon is just as fast as the Hummingbird for general purpose processing.. Like loading pages, opening apps, running code. There is no comparison between Adreno and SGX , though. But I'm not a gamer, and the Adreno is capable enough to run games decently, especially if they were optimized for it.
[EVO 4G General] Mbai2:
I didn't notice the pixelation but I did notice that any edges displayed on the screen were over-enhanced. It looks the same as if you were to turn the sharpness on a display too high.

And I can definitely see the individual pixels on the Evo but only if I'm looking at it stupidly close; about an inch away from the screen.
[EVO 4G General] superlinkx:
The thing about the Evo is you are probably going to hold it farther away from your face than a smaller device. This means that the pixel density wouldn't have to be as high to still get the effect of smaller pixels.

I can't believe people buy into the whole retina display thing. 3.5 in is way too small for a screen, no matter how many pixels it has. So glad I have the Evo, but now I can't go back to anything smaller... I hope HTC makes an entire line dedicated to 4.3 in+ screens running Android on Sprint from now on.
[EVO 4G General] /b/laZ1n:
I got my hands on an Epic today. I still have 10 days to switch and it won't be for this. It's a Samsung phone and you can tell. My wife has the ****y intercept. This isn't much different. For what I use my phone for the EVO is 10x better. I use remote desktop and the terminal apps. I surf the web and check email. I listen to music and watch youtube. This Epic just doesn't cut it.
[EVO 4G General] overthinkingme:
Just saw it, amoled is awesome.
[EVO 4G General] canteenboy:
Just checked out the Epic at the Sprint store. Not very impressed with the Samsung build quality. You can feel the screen hit the keys when sliding out the keyboard. The super amoled looked nice for pictures and video but text quality was not that great. The 3d graphics were nice. The Epic just felt cheap in the hand.
[EVO 4G General] infamousjax:
got it and love it. way faster, way smoother, way brighter. +qwerty

makes the evo look washed out and old news... now lets see what happens!
[EVO 4G General] wy1d:
The pixels were the first thing I noticed when I checked out the Vibrant. Feel like I'm looking through a chain link fence. Evo text is much crisper. Epic probably better for video.

Swyped on my EVO
[EVO 4G General] captblaze:
got the epic for my wife yesterday and did a few hours of side by side comparison. i came to a simple conclusion...

EVO - man's phone

Epic - a phone for women and metros

you can dispute my opinion all you want, but this is how i see it after a few hours of side by side
[EVO 4G General] ILYCyAnOgEn:
ya ive been seeing lots of women with vibrants from t-mobile lately, defiantly a chick phone.. evo is the phone of the year imho.
[EVO 4G General] donatom3:
The epic doesn't use on board nand, it actually uses SD memory. Engadget did an article on someone who was able to cut down the lag cuz of this. Nand is the fastest flash memory you're going to find out there now, sd isn't and the epic suffers because that is their main memory.
[EVO 4G General] wanfaltm:
My brother has the Captivate and I have the EVO.

My BIGGEST turn off is actually the screen, you can see every single little pixel compared to my Evo where even if I look closely, it's still really hard to make them out.

The sheer speed of his Captivate simply blows my phone out of the water though. I went from an iPhone 3G to the Evo, and aside from the FPS and touch lag everything is so much better. But when I played with his phone, the scrolling seemed to be even better than the iPhones! I haven't tried fidgeting with the multitouch on the web browser or anything, but I did play Asphalt 5 side by side and there was strictly no comparison.

I guess you can't have your cake and eat it too.
[EVO 4G General] spy_owl2:
I share the same feeling about regular AMOLED. It looks (and sounds) like they haven't made enough progress. If I notice right, the pixels on AMOLED screens are not in a regular matrix-shaped formation. They are tiled in a "zig-zag" shape. This makes for people complaining about the real actual (vs advertized) resolution of the AMOLED screens, and also text and images not looking as sharp as on regular LCD screens.

If you compare the same image or text on the same resolution, same size AMOLED and LCD screens you'll most likely notice 3 things things:

- LCD version is sharper

- AMOLED has better colors

- AMOLED has better contrast ratio

If you don't mind or notice blurring that much you'll like AMOLED; but if you do, it may be a lot harder to justify.
[EVO 4G General] vanstrien:
Got both too

I too bought the Epic yesterday for my wife. Previously she borrowed my Evo for a few days to see if she liked it, and I have previous experience with the Samsung Moment.

Unsurprisingly she prefers the Epic and I prefer the Evo. I loved the keyboard on my Moment, but I don't see the need once you have Swype. The Epic is faster with a bright but overrated display, which is good. It also seems lighter. Hopefully the Gorilla Glass will give the phone extra protection too.

However I hate, absolutely hate, the interface on the Epic. The Evo isn't perfect and I would switch to Launcher Pro if I could use the HTC widgets, but the Samsung interface is just consistently unpleasant. Also we noticed that her back button often doesn't work and we'll probably have to switch out the phone.
[EVO 4G General] felacio:
Just a quick little FYI. the "plus" version of LauncherPro has a Bookmarks, People, Calendar, and Messaging widget MUCH like the HTC widgets. The developer of LP is said to be working on a "friend stream" like widget right now.. but might take a little while as its the most complicated.

...in 1943, I killed a drifter.
[EVO 4G General] jnewkirk10:
I have a friend who works a Sprint store. He said they got 48 Epics in on launch day and only sold 8. They got 10 Evos in Monday and sold them all. Got 8 more Evos on Tuesday and sold them all. Got 10 more epics on Tuesday and right now still have 39. Not good numbers for the epic.
[EVO 4G General] Success100:
same thing at our store, but in the Epics defense, it was not advertised no where near as much as the Evo, and with the EVo being the 1st 4G phone, it gained much more publicity than the Epic
[EVO 4G General] MrDSL:
I am unimpressed by the screen also. My co-worker has the AT&T version and for one it looks very very small compared to the EVO side by side..I can really notice it and who the hell at Samsung decided to WASTE 10ft of the phone to write SAMSUNG on the front?

The pixel in the screen especially with text is really really noticable. I know there is a name for the pixel crap (pen-tile?) they use cause the Nexus One is the same way.

I wouldn't watch enough movies on that tiny screen to make it worth it for me.
[EVO 4G General] MrDSL:
Really? Before I got my EVO I never saw any advertisments for it! Here lately I have but not before I bought it.. I've been seeing Epic commercials all the time.
[EVO 4G General] Success100:
one word, CTIA. The Evo stole the show, that in itself was huge for the Evo. Evo was also on just about every website I went to, and the internet was going nuts about the Evo, in the 2.5 month period between CTIA and actual Evo launch
[EVO 4G General] Calkulin:
Best my phone ever did was almost 1800 and that was on my benchmarking ROM, I don't remember a 3000+ one :confused:
[EVO 4G General] Success100:
LMAO...zonk!!
[EVO 4G General] nebenezer:
Hey, just want to say thanks for the review. Very thorough and interesting.

I've had my EVO for about 2 months and I am still enamored with it (not like fan-boy jumping on the bandwagon enamored, more like "wow, this is a serious piece of equipment enamored).

I have several friends and family that own EVO's and a buddy who has had his EVO for less than 30 days bought the Epic on launch so he could take his time to compare and return the one he doesn't want. I haven't actually seen it yet but he was absolutely blown away by how prominent the pixel segregation is. The bigest thing he was hyped up about was the screen and when he called to give me the run-down he was just in disbelief how horrible the screen looked. He's keeping his EVO :)

I'm sure the Epic will be perfect for a lot of people, but damn the EVO is such a badass device, it has really set the bar high in terms of appearance, feel and user experience... in my opinion.
[EVO 4G General] pongoface:
Can I get that benchmarking Rom begs
[EVO 4G General] EliWay:
Phew, I think it's safe to say that I'm not the only one who noticed that. Proves i'm not crazy. I'm still surprised no major blog or review has mentioned this, though.
[EVO 4G General] Success100:
i agree, most of the blogs and review sites act like the galaxy phones are without flaws just like they do with the iPhone
[EVO 4G General] Hanson68:
I think there's a lot of, "let's crown a new king" thinking going on with the blogs and reviews. Hey, if you absolutely need/love a HW keyboard, then Epic is hard to pass up. But take away the keyboard, and the Epic is a Vibrant or Captivate and shares just about every flaw with them, including borked GPS, screen door effect, blue push, unresponsive capacitance buttons, issues with storage mode, slow charging problems, no froyo, and ****ty battery life (about on par with the Evo). And with the multiple reports of wobbly screen when typing, oreo may be a new issue on the list.

Can you really chalk all of the gushing just because of a keyboard? Was anyone seriously advocating that the Vibrant or Captivate was superior to the Evo? Where did this turbo boost of enthusiasm come from exactly?

I'm sorry, but the screen did not blow me away. Loved the contrast ratio, hated the blue push, and I could see the screen door effect due to the pentile matrix screen. If I were primarily using the phone for watching movies and playing games, I'd consider the Epic. But I spend 80% of my time surfing the net and messaging. Do I want to see a dim, bluish screen with blurry fonts 80% of the time? Not to mention the disparity in screen size. .3" may not sound like much, but the size difference is glaringly obvious.
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
Couldn't have said it better.

Sent from my PCouch.
[EVO 4G General] nebenezer:
Sorry to the OP for the OT but I have to ask.. is there a website that you used to make your cell phone history sig? Or did you photoshop those together?

Nice lineage btw, except for the fruit :D