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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
To make it startup automatically, add a shortcut to the app in StartUp Folder under Windows with parameter startup.

This is ONLY the test version to test the new closing app method.

1. MMTM is based on .NET framework which already consumes a bit of RAM already on top of the User Interface.

2. I don't have any comment on this as different screen size will see different amount of items. This goes the same for all other apps.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bogdatov:
Skins ?

Are there any skins that are:

1. Compatible with v 2.1

2. Better aligh (color-wise) with original scheme of HD2 - which is black.

I know GTX skin is here somewhere, but it is white-ish
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Dark_Avenger:
The new closing method does not work for me. I can't close Resco Explorer or Email client anymore.

Device info:

HTC HD2, stock ROM WWE_EastEurope_1.66.479.2

WM: 6.5
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
Test version 2 is now available please give it another try :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bart3385:
What's added to Test version 2?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
Bug fixes for not closing app properly in Test version 1 ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Alireza2n:
Going to try the new 2.1 test version, thanks! ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bart3385:
Can we just install Test 2 directly over Test 1? Without uninstall or any special preparation.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
Since this is a system app, I suggest a soft reset after installation. I would think installing Test 2 over Test 1 should be fine. Please confirm.

EDIT: I've been running this Test version 2 for a while and doing alot of stress testing. I could say that it's very stable for me. I'll monitor thread for a few more days before releasing a final version.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] henrik.dk:
Tried the test version

For my HD, it starts when boots which increase the boot time quite much.

Also I could notice that my today is refreshed by blacking out for a while.

Seems that it tried to bring up the GUI of MMT and when automatically startup.

Is that possible to add boot delay or load when device is idle? Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Dark_Avenger:
Test version 2 works for me. Good job!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bart3385:
Found one problem after installing Test 2 and soft reset. The dial pad became non-responsive. It froze the phone. I had to remove battery to reset it again.

Although, after taking out the battery, and restarting, it went fine.

I did further testing, this time, it froze the lockscreen. Have to remove battery again.

These problems didn't appear in Test 1.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bart3385:
This is going bad. Messing up my phone. Keeps on freezing. Can't uninstall. Test 1 won't install over Test 2 properly. MMTM not found in Remove Programs list.

Update:

I was able to remove Test 2 after several reset, install, uninstall. Hard to explain. It's a long mixed up process.

Now i'm trying to go back to Test 1, which worked fine althroughout. But now, Test 1 won't work either. Some remnant of Test 2 seems to be causing further trouble.

Here's the error message after re-installing Test 1:

MMTaskManager.exe

MissingMethodException

Can't find PInvoke DLL

'MMtaskManagerCore.dll'

at □..ctor(Boolean □)

at □□.Main(String[] args)

Exactly that way. Including the boxes.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
Currently the app is set up to delay 15 second on boot. however part of the app has to be loaded mainly the .net framework before the delay takes place. Another method is to create another light and fast process that doesn't use .net to delay and load mmtm. in fact, I'll try this method in test version 3.

hmm, i think the best install method is to exit the app from Its menu and install the new version. I'll look into this lock up dial pad.it occurs to me once.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
Test version 3

Test version 3:

Improved start up speed

Added option under Settings to load app on device start up

Added option under Settings to allow delay start up time. This only effects device start up option.

Increased app overall stability

This should be the final test version before I release the FINAL official version. I've been using it on my HD2 without any problem.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] djsolidsnake86:
in these latest versions, resco contact manger can't be excluded in the apps to close :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
From what I see in their app screen shots, resco contact manager doesn't have the original windows X button to close as they want to handle their own closing process with their own X button in a full screen mode. MMTM will not

force

an app to close by pressing on the X button but rather

ask

the app to close. This way the app can be closed gracefully. However, to force an app to close, you can do that within MMTM User Interface.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] djsolidsnake86:
i want to exclude that program but with 2.1 version isn't possible (with 2.0 and previous was possible i remember)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] henrik.dk:
Thanks man. Will give it a try right away.

I would still like to have the option not to display the memory/cpu to

have a more clean interface.

why MMT is not shown when "all the process" option is ticked?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
I think I don't understand what you want to do now :confused: If you want to exclude it, MMTM is already did as MMTM will not do anything with fullscreen apps as they want to handle closing themself.

I will add the option to toggle memory on/off.

MMTM is not shown because I don't want user to force close the app :o
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bart3385:
Since you'll be adding option to toggle memory bar, may i request an option to choose size of bars? Maybe just 2 or 3 options will do. Such as "regular" height or "small" height. If it's not too difficult to do. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] djsolidsnake86:
is i set the program for exclude it, i see it every time in the apps opened
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] henrik.dk:
Great thanks.

I have been testing yesterday with MMTM and my HD locked up completely.

Soft reset doesn't work at all. It hangs at the last stage of boot up.

I have to hard reset it.

Don't know whether it is related to previous installation of test1.

Will report back if the problem popped up again.

Boot speed is a lot better. But my HD might be too slow. just see the circulating sign after a while. Still see the windows today flashes and MMTM title shows up and disappears.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
Yup, this was reported in earlier post. It's fixed for final release.

I'm sorry to hear that you have to do a hard reset. It might be that previous test version wasn't uninstalled completely. It's always best to uninstall the app manually and do a soft reset before installing new version.

Also, on start up, MMTM will start minimized that's why you saw the title and it disappears.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] geogeo.gr:
Greek language for version 2.0

It does not work properly in the test version 2.1
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] BigMani:
Hi

I installed the latest stable version 2.0.100831 on my Omnia II.

I have the same problem that other people are reporting here:

on the first softreset, my mobile device did not boot anymore.

the dial pad is frozen and I was not able to touch something. also I got shell32.exe crashes.

Hard reset was necessary :(

I think the reason is this keyboard hook, which is loading very early. can this not only be started when I start the program?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bogdatov:
I used latest version on T-Mobile HD2 (USA) with stock ROM. HD2 hungs periodically, screen freezes, touch unresponsive ... everything. Not reacting to buttons, cant unlock ... so many things. Bad part is that it happens unpredictably and once phone gets frozen it STILL somehow doing something, gets hot and consumes battery like crazy.

Lately ... once phone boots it locks up almost right away ... may be in 15-20 seconds. I was able to uninstall it within that time frame. Things are back to normal now.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bart3385:
I haven't tried Test 3 yet. Test 1 seems to be the most stable for me. I just disable the close app features, and use it purely for task switching. I go to the stock task manager for closing apps.

Will wait for the final stable release.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
Final version 2.1

Final version 2.1 is here. Hope it solves all reported bugs. Here are the changes:

Added: Under Settings, Load On Boot. Option to load MMTM on device startup.

Added: Under Settings, Load On Boot Delay. Delay app start up in seconds. This only effects Load On Boot.

Added: Under Settings, Show Process Memory. Option to show/hide each process memory usage.

Modified: User Interface. When Show Process Memory is disabled, process item will be displayed smaller.

Modified: Closing form method. The new method should be cleaner and safer.

Modified: Reorganize menu items.

Fixed: Bug related to home button doesn't return home screen in previous version.

Fixed: Bug related to some apps couldn't be closed in previous version.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Fishawy:
Maximus, you're the man! :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] djsolidsnake86:
the bug with resco contact is fixed :)

but i think that there is another bug with resco keyboard, because when i start the phone i see the little resco keyboard icon at right and bottom of the display of my phone
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bart3385:
Looks like you nailed it. It's working smoothly. Not only did you solve all the problems in such a short time, you even granted my one little request for the reduced bar size. The available new size fits perfectly for my HD mini.

Amazing! HTC should hire someone like you.

Congratulations for this very useful app!

Thank you for your efforts. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] henrik.dk:
Thanks. till now I seems to be fine except that I cannot bringup MMT after I press the button from the program list. this happens if I have htc task manger enabled and clicked the "X" when MMT is active. I also found that use wm task manager, the "switch to" task option is greyed out.

Any chance to have big icon for the display without memory info? The strip is a bit small and is not that clickable in my touch HD. Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cyclu:
Final version works great in HD2 stock rom 1.66.

I like really you program, just little suggestion if possible

add generic icon or frame for "Close All".

Thank you!:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
Awesome, good to hear it works out for you guys ;)

I see that you are a resco fan :). Try to increase the "Start On Boot Delay" time to see if it still happens.

Did you set WM task manager to "Tap on X to close"? If so, WM task manager forces MMTM to close :eek:

Also, it is a good idea

not

to run multiple task managers at once ;)

As for the strip dimension, I found that this is the best way to fit most devices. I will, however, keep this in mind in the next version. But keep in mind that It won't be for a while unless some major bugs come up ;)

Thanks for the report. I keep your suggestion in mind for the next release. And again it won't be for a while unless some major bugs come up ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] djsolidsnake86:
yes now is fixed with ten second more :D

edit. maximus i think that there is a incompatibility problem between mmtaskmager and resco contact manager because when i receice a sms and i open with resco cm, the buttons on my omnia stop to works :(

please can you check?

for precision work only the end call button, but other buttons not :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Lycox:
Here's the updated german lang for v2.1 :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bart3385:
If you're gonna deal with "Close All" button anyway, i have some other ideas in mind.

1. If you're gonna change the Close All into an icon or some smallish button, you can move it up to the blue status bar. Something like the size of the other X buttons, and in line with it. That way, it saves space.

2. You can remove the Close All bar, and move that item into the menu instead. Since this is not very often used. And also, as protection against unintended press.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
That's strange, it never happens on my HD2. I'll try to look into this problem as I probably can't reproduce the bug without an Omnia. I'll see what I can do.

Thanks for the translation bro. Uploaded to my website as well.

I'll keep this in mind for next release. For now, it shouldn't be a problem ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] geogeo.gr:
Greek language for version 2.1

@ In field "Load On Boot Delay (seconds)" not displayed the description.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
No worries, i accidentally added that in :rolleyes:

Also, is Soft Reset = Soft Reset in Greek as well?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] geogeo.gr:
No, but I think it was more understandable.

Changed to be fully localized.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] BigMani:
Version 2.1 fixed the problem, great! many thanks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
I'm glad it works out for you. Increasing the boot up delay time might help to solve a lot of unexpected problems. ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] caliban2:
good that for so many people the new version fixed so many problems. ^^

but for me the switch from hook-exe to dll seems to have broken it.

with v2.1 i get regular crashes of the system: manila gets half-unloaded from mem (boost of 40mb free ram), all hw-keys on my x1 don't work anymore and winmo is broken too: touchscreen stays responsive (with manila still there) until i try to switch away from it (open an app, startmenu), then it freezes completely.

softreset cures it, but not longer than for one hour.

with version 2.0 all of this doesn't happen, also as soon as i uninstall 2.1 everything's fine. so what exactly is triggering it has to be seen, but it's definitely the dll in conjunction with "something".

edit:

i'll see if can get a log of such a crash with rapi-tools later - i'd really hate to lose mmtaskmanager on my phone! :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bart3385:
I seem to have some trouble with the final version too. The phone will gradually slow down, switching apps takes longer and longer pauses, until the whole system froze. Have to take out the battery for soft reset. I've tried to run the system without the app. And it seem to behave normally.

I can't be that sure yet. Have to do some more test.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Claus72:
This is the ITA language updated for the version 2.1.100918. ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] djsolidsnake86:
i'm moved to omnia 2 and there is some problem (always with resco contact manager in the top of the screen)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
It seems that the new method for closing app is causing problems for some people. I've a next version already that solved this problems. I will put it up for testing purposes for a while before giving a final word.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
v2.2 Test Version 1

Anyone who have problems related to previous version, please try this test version and report your results :rolleyes:

Thanks guys
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Low C H:
Hi, this is the first time I have installed this application. Tried 2.1 and 2.2, caused similar problem of hanging my phone after usage for less than a hour. I think my phone hanged when I kept trying to use the taskmanager to close applications that I had opened. Still trying.....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
hmm i know that 2.1 hangs for me as well after using it for a few hours. But i've been using 2.2 for a while and doing a lot of stress testings and still stable for me. I'm running HD2 if that makes a different. :confused:

Also, make sure that MMTaskManagerCore.dll is dated 9/29/2010 1:55PM. Cause if you don't uninstall older version properly, the older core is properly still in used.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] caliban2:
5 hours with test-version and still running. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bib*oops:
Working fine, so far, v.2.2 on tg01 Custom_ROM_TG01_Lite_23690_WWE...

Where do I check for mentioned .dll?

Thx!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] henrik.dk:
I do see the problem with MMT 2.1 with internet sharing. If I close it, then I will never be able to bring it back.

I disabled the auto start. disabled "x" to real-close application.

Apart from that, it works perfect.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Dark_Avenger:
Vesrion 2.2 test 1 does not close the Windows mobile mail client. Vesion 2.1 works with mail client most of the times.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] caliban2:
version 2.2 test:

closing mail-client working flawless.

closing internet sharing gives a spinning wheel and blocks mmtaskmanager. if i kill (!) process "intshrui" with fdcsoft taskmgr, mmtask is back to normal.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cyclu:
Problem with latest test version, program error on boot, system

respondent very very slow, hardware button no worked. Before all version work great for me

test version included, return to 2.1 version.

Sorry for my english.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
To check for the latest Core dll. Simply go into the app directory (where it is installed) and look at the property of the dll file.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Low C H:
Thanks for the advice. I reinstalled and checked to ensure per advice, but same thing happened. :confused: I am also using HD2.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
Final release version 2.2

This is the final release for version 2.2. I've found this version is very stable for me without any hang up or effecting usage at all. For those who still experience with boot up problems, please try to increase the boot up delay or try to start the app manually to fix the problem. :o
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Fishawy:
Damn, you're keeping yourself busy! :D

So, there's a 2.2 version then .. Testing ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bart3385:
I'm gonna test this. I'll report my findings soon.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bart3385:
It's been working fine so far. Running for 2 days now since installed. Although i haven't done soft reset yet.

For now, i can say this version works smoothly since installed but without soft reset.

I'll keep this running until the day i need to do soft reset. Then that will be the start of another test session.

Thanks for improving and fixing the known bugs. I hope i wouldn't find any new problems. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] henrik.dk:
works with me without any problem. Thanks for the great application
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] caliban2:
jup, 2.2 working flawless for me as well.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] djsolidsnake86:
work good but i've saw that first times the taskmanager doesn't close the apps
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] djsolidsnake86:
another bad thing: on my device i8000 i experienced again with 2.2 version, the keys bugs!

i was using jacksms with gprs connection, after received a sms, and then all the keys doesn't work!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bart3385:
My phone froze a while ago while installing Waze. I did a soft reset. So now, this is my second phase of testing. I'll report back after some time.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] djsolidsnake86:
any news about this?

edit. i found another bug with thumbcal, when i press the agenda button the program close, like mmtaskmanager close it with the x button (that is agenda button in thumbcal)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
It seems that this version 2.2 is working for most people. I will look at problems that some people reported. ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] User_99:
Had in the past problems with version 2.0 on my German ROM (23569 Sense 2.5.2016) - not booting up completely (Sense was not starting, or takes a verly long time) or time was not correct - means phone boot up at 08:03 and the time never changes, only via system settings - clock and did a manually update.

After removing MMTaskmanager all works fine again. Now I tried latest version 2.2 and all these problem gone, but I have a new one: pin code setting for phone never came up after reboot - must do it manually via system settings - phone. Not a big deal, but...

MMTaskmanager has a startup delay 120 sec.

Obsolete (new ROM upgrade), but will check it for the future...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] djsolidsnake86:
i have a little request: when i exclude a process from closing it, i can't see it on the taskmanager, even if i press show all the process
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bart3385:
The app works without a hitch. Been testing it for a week. I'd say this one is good. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Baadshah555:
Hey.. Very NICE and Useful app.. Its working real Fine on my HTC HD Mini.. Thanks..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] djsolidsnake86:
i have the bug with jacksms also when i send sms via wifi (then end call and call button doesn't work)

i tried without mmtaskmanager and the keys work perfectly after many sms sent with jacksms!! let me know if you can fix that

ps. i experienced this problem also with mmapplauncher!

regarding the thumbcal crash, i have excluded it and now it's ok

regarding the third request, let me know
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bart3385:
Thanks for pointing out the problem with Thumbcal. I was wondering why it crashes whenever i press the agenda button. I thought it was a Thumbcal bug.

Thanks for pointing out the solution using exclude function.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] djsolidsnake86:
well no problem, it wasn't a bug, but there are one that only maximus can fix (jacksms bug)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] RK1908:
Lads,

i have just installed app on my htc mini but "x" but is not available when running application. Option is checked in settings.

Could you advice?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zalaros:
Take a look at this post http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6740128&postcount=9 ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
New Version 2.3

Hope that this version will solve some problems for people in the previous version ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zalaros:
10/10/2010 - Version 2.3.101010

Improved: Closing form process.

Modified: Close All now moved under Menu.

Modified: MMTM now shows MMTM process.

Removed: Extra process to start up MMTM on device startup.

It works great on my HD mini :) Thank you very much ;) The only thing that i don't like in this new version is the movement of Close All. Now it takes two taps on the screen to close all open apps. In the previous version you could close all open apps with one tap only which was quicker and more simple ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kautilya:
I concur, the "Close All" button was more convenient up front on top.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ephestione:
could be made into a setting maybe?

In my case I use this tool just to switch between apps, and never use close all, so having it out of the way frees up one more slot onscreen for active applications
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wzx521:
support for you
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] RK1908:
I have just installed but still dont have X button to close applications...whats wrong? Got hd mini
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zalaros:
I have already replied to you! HD mini doesn't have X button enabled. See this post http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6740128&postcount=9 in order to activate X button.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] roma11:
Same as on my Diamond option off the X enabled, but does not work, plus after you install the new version is often the Start menu was not open ...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bart3385:
I do get this too sometimes. After long use. Start menu won't come up. Thumbcal would freeze for some time. I use 2.2.

I'll try out 2.3.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] RK1908:
i tried your suggestion, but X button isnt in right place...