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[XPERIA X10 General] Nievery:
MY BAD. Phone updated right now and it's still on 1.6 :S
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
Sure take it with a digital camera
[XPERIA X10 General] digitall1982:
yep people says that they just updated to 2.1..
[XPERIA X10 General] Nievery:
Yeah my bad, i was updating at the time of posting and since others were saying they got updated to 2.1...wel whatthefu*k. Here's the strange thing, the phone got updated (i previously had 026 version) and after the update i got the same thing:

Firmware: 1.6

Baseband: 1.1.31

Kernel: 2.6.29-rel

Build number: R2BA026

Can someone compare and tell what the hell was even updated? Baseband?
[XPERIA X10 General] Niceties:
I have debranded and rooted x10, I'm being offered an OTA update that's 1.59MB. Knowing Sony, that IS their version of 2.1 :-)
[XPERIA X10 General] LIQU1D5NAKE:
see what i mean :rolleyes:
[XPERIA X10 General] Nievery:
Liquidsnake go google it and you'll see people posting about live wallpapers and other stuff. The 2.1 is out on some carriers.

http://www.xperiax10.net/2010/09/14...is-“much-sooner-than-you-think”/#comment-5021
[XPERIA X10 General] LIQU1D5NAKE:
hhhmmmm..... i still dont believe it, just ran through seus and nothing, not even the 26 firmware?????? Im not being a tw@ with you just dont believe anyone untill i see some proof, too many people saying yes i ive got it bbut no screens or vids to back it up.
[XPERIA X10 General] Nievery:
If you're from UK then try debranding it and you will get the update..but it won't give you the 2.1... Don't know if anything was updated really o.O Hope it's not a patch for root...
[XPERIA X10 General] Puck24:
Well, even if it's out, it's not out out, hehe. At least for the majority of users
[XPERIA X10 General] LIQU1D5NAKE:
anyone got a guide to debranding? Although im on firmware R2BA020, am i already generic?
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
Chang September 14, 2010 at 8:17 PM

Firmware Version 2.1, Baseband 1.2.11, Kernel Version 3.1.06-rel, Build Number R2BA030.

Wow. could it finally be here?
[XPERIA X10 General] Puck24:
I'm wondering the same thing. Just sent a tweet to @sonyericsson with that exact c/p
[XPERIA X10 General] thor2002ro:
I think its fake Kernel Version 3.1.06-rel don't think its possible the next kernel should be 2.6.32-rel

linux kernel didn't even reach 3.x
[XPERIA X10 General] Nievery:
Debranding tutorial: http://www.xperiax10.net/2010/07/10/xperia-x10-debrand-tutorial-revised-following-seus-update/
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
I can confirm that at least the part about it being out in Japan is 150% bull****.

SE never releases an update in Japan without a week's warning, plus, they've always said October for 2.1 here anyway.
[XPERIA X10 General] mezo9090:
Either its released in japan, hong kong or that website is making huge traffic right now :D
[XPERIA X10 General] bongd:
Sir, I would walk all over my mother for the 2.1 update... jk!! :D

I love my mom. When she's mad at me I just lift her over my head and say she's too cute to be mad. Now back to the 2.1 update... where art thou?
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
X10 September 14, 2010 at 8:56 PM

The Android 2.1 update is fake. The ‘people’ posting here saying that the update is here are all coming from the same IP address. We do not welcome these misleading lies and raising hopes for the community therefore the IP address has been blocked.

LOL
[XPERIA X10 General] LIQU1D5NAKE:
from a mod at xperia.net -

X10 September 14, 2010 at 8:56 PM

The Android 2.1 update is fake. The ‘people’ posting here saying that the update is here are all coming from the same IP address. We do not welcome these misleading lies and raising hopes for the community therefore the IP address has been blocked.
[XPERIA X10 General] mymagicmyhero:
It's fake. The IP was banned.
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
looks like I beat you by a few seconds
[XPERIA X10 General] anjo2:
Root? When you root your X10 SEUS will say that there is an update, and you loose root.
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
sorry for the blur, as some apps are not to be revealed at the moment + some apps are not supposed to be installed :p Well I can say is Timescape widget will be more useful in displaying information as it is scrollable without having to fully go into Timescape appl. The X10 might get some features that appeared only on the Aino (not that we really use it, but hey, it's SE) ;)

Please note, this is not on my device, i have a retail version, so no 2.1 for me yet either, this is from a dev device from a colleague of mine, so don't ask me about other stuff, as this is all that i possess.
[XPERIA X10 General] speeee:
@ post above, Looks nice looking forward to it being rolled out in the coming weeks

a question though, will my device being rooted affect the update or is it wise to factory reset/unroot before updating to 2.1 ?

and

will i loose root after the 2.1 update (no big loss really)

thanks
[XPERIA X10 General] jaykeeley:
ASTRO then Alarm Clock? Alphabetical error? :p
[XPERIA X10 General] mrtim123:
bahahaha! nice catch! photoshop fail :)
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
hahaha its actually not a photoshop picture, that's how it is. Apparently the CAP letters is before the smaller letter for some reasons, the first one that was blur is APN... and come on now...photoshop, really? I would take my time for this? If you think I photoshop, then take a look at this one ;)

oh and if u don't believe me, check the other thread for the Chinese screen shots, as both his and my sets are similar :)
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
I think the rooted version is fine to update as to what I was told, but u WILL lose root after the update. From what he tried, it's not backward flashable since they sealed the exploid. So a no go for that. For the rooted users, I would recommend waiting to see how things go, but for me, i would go with the 2.1 since i don't really use the root for anything (other than font replacement, but no biggie for me)
[XPERIA X10 General] Nimche:
WHile you are at it, do you have any information about US release. I see you are close by.
[XPERIA X10 General] mrtim123:
Sorry man, i was taking the piss. Dont blame ya for jumping up and down though :)
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
Sorry, no clue on the US release. My pics came from the Asia side.

I wish I can jump up and down, as it's only pictures, nothing that I can get my hands on to my real X10, so I'm on the waiting boat as you guys are, just sharing what's coming. My colleague told me not to expect everything that is seen, some will be included in the next December update, and not on this update.
[XPERIA X10 General] jomil:
Do those screens have 5 rows of widget space?
[XPERIA X10 General] mezo9090:
Do you have any idea about the release date in any country?

Btw, while the phone is connected to the pc, can't you just dump it ? ;)

I noticed a lot of changes in the timescape widget, is it usable now? I mean is your friend really using it? Does it allow me to comment on friend status or reply to tweets our retweet ?

Last thing is, thanks for sharing those photos :)
[XPERIA X10 General] mezo9090:
Or he is using some launcher?
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
They are the stock launcher that comes with the 2.1. Not from ADW or some sort. Yes, you do get 5 home screens now as of 3 screens in the 1.6 version.

The Timescape widget is now more usable, as now u will be able to scroll through the list (though, in order to update the feed, u need to enter the Timescape app still). So to read the feed, you can just scroll through the widget without entering Timescape app. I do not know if we can comment through it.

No, CANNOT dump, as my colleague does not want to get fired -_____- the security of EMMA is alot more tighter than before.
[XPERIA X10 General] oXunknownXo:
What about the camera flash? is it working as a flash and not like a simple light now?
[XPERIA X10 General] jomil:
What i said was it appears you have 5 WIDGET rows, as in vertical space for putting widgets on the deskspace... in 1.6 we have a 4x4 grid, it seems you have a 5x4 now? a feature that ADW etc brings usually...
[XPERIA X10 General] xeviro:
I actually find that 5 home screens is too much. Because if you stuff the home screens with widgets and app shortcut, it will eat more memory. I'm using ADW with 3 home screens.

lol.. the waiting really kills.. week 38 is coming very-very slow. 4 more days, then Week 38 starts, and they still have buffer time of 7 days. lol. Still 11 more days of suffering.

now i think, when the 2.1 coming out, some of the branded fw might get them later. and also IF 2.1 cannot be dumped using the current tools, don't you think we should start build a collection of all branded FW so we can switched to the branded fw which got 2.1 first.

Its going to be another havoc if we never had that branded FW dumped and ready to be flashed. lol :D
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
I didn't know 2.1 had the ability to change the hardware of the phone as well.
[XPERIA X10 General] oXunknownXo:
That's not hardware related but software, just use vignette app and you will see how the LED Flash works automatically(as it should be).
[XPERIA X10 General] MoridinBG:
The LED flash flashes briefly when shooting photos on x10 mini pro.

No multitouch, no HD recording (only on the big X10).

AFAIK it really is 16m colors, I will compare it with 1.6 X10, but I think the bigger xperia has slightly better display.

No multitouch, of course.

The phone seems slightly faster than the big X10 with 1.6 (although it is 600Mhz/128MB RAM compared to 1GHZ/256MB)..
[XPERIA X10 General] oXunknownXo:
thank you moridinBG , however, talking about the LED Flash again,i think it worked as it should on X10 mini pro before, the problem is with the x10i/a LED flash,it doesn't work with the SE software but it shots automatically with other software like Vignette APP, is it possible to check if this problem is already solved?
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
Flash is still the same, it will just light up like a flash light through the Advanced Settings(I see no point in making it flash, as the output of the bulb is the same either way)

And NO MULTITOUCH LOL It's funny how the other thread people r still arguing about it hahahaha MT will be on the next model :)
[XPERIA X10 General] ronniecross:
Flash would be helpful to stop blinding people when taking photos of them ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] oXunknownXo:
Thank you Unknown13x , well there is a point, with vignette app, when you are taking a photo with low light it turns on the flash for focus, then it turns off and again it turns on the flash at the same time you shot the photo, everything auto, no need to browse throught the advanded settings and loose a lot of time and you don't blind your friends when you are taking photos of them

Other phones with the same LED flash like iPhone 4 or X10 mini pro work this way.
[XPERIA X10 General] xarchitect:
Wont live wallpapers consume a lot of battery ??
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
i asked my colleague that, and he said "well, it's better than not having one at all" :( Ok, for not going off topic, I do get your point, hopefully they will make it flash on the next update..."hopefully"

For those who r curious and believe this might still be photoshop'ed pictures since the grid layout has changed and is similar to ADW, here's from the internal document.

the 2.0 is NOT the android version, before someone starts throwing flames at me, it is the internal version name for this particular update. The next update in December will be 2.1 and so forth. IT IS NOT BASED ON THE ANDROID VERSION. As you can see, the homescreen is getting reworked.

For those who want to know more about Mediascape, it is still the same, no significant changes in this update...
[XPERIA X10 General] mezo9090:
Gimme that document :D
[XPERIA X10 General] oXunknownXo:
Thank you again unknown ;), let's hope they finally add that feature.

About mediascape, i thought that "update" comes at the end of this year, i want only 2 things, a widget and the one finger zoom that appears in both x10 mini and mini pro.
[XPERIA X10 General] anjo2:
new zoom feature or not?
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
No, it's a hardware thing. The LED on the X10 is pathetic, and turning it on/off like Vignette does isn't "Flash".

Have you seen a real LED flash on a phone? They stay on, like the X10 does, but also have a much higher brightness setting for taking the picture, similar to the output of a digital camera's flash. Trust me, I've had a real flash on a phone, the X10's is absolute garbage. I live in the land of insane cameraphones.

Zoom feature for what...? Be more specific in your brainless requests.
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
Sorry, I'm just wondering... what does the "H" mean above the data indicators?

Also, I don't like the bigger notification bar.
[XPERIA X10 General] nkolsen:
Seriuosly, why even consider posting when its all crap dude ? :mad:

H is probably for HSDPA/3G ( i think ). And the zoom the other guy talks about, is probably the the zoomfeature the mini's and the x8 got....:D
[XPERIA X10 General] tigger69:
H is indeed HSDPA which is faster than 3g i think, correct me if i am wrong.

EDIT

High-Speed Downlink Packet Access (HSDPA) is an enhanced 3G (third generation) mobile telephony communications protocol in the High-Speed Packet Access (HSPA) family, also dubbed 3.5G, 3G+ or turbo 3G.
[XPERIA X10 General] metcard:
Are you able to put shortcuts at the bottom next to the app drawer button?

Like in ADW you can put 4 shortcuts at the bottom.
[XPERIA X10 General] chris_knows:
You could always take apart your phone and stick a xenon bulb in ;).
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
What's all crap? I love the X10 more than most people on this forum, but even I've got some sense of reality when it comes to the pathetic LED. There's a reason why SE calls it a "Photo Light" and not a "Flash".

Also, the zoom feature could mean a lot. It could mean pinch to zoom, it could mean double click to zoom (which the browser could use), it could mean the one-touch zoom for pictures like the X10 mini... which is why it's nice to be specific.

≈

HSDPA makes sense, but, my question is, does it show as "H" on other phones? I ask, because I'm on a HSDPA network and my phone displays "3G".
[XPERIA X10 General] kistigun:
Then why is it called Flash LED in the service menu?
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
Who knows? It probably was (could still be) a flash, but, SE realized it was weak? For the time being, it's called a "photo light" because it may not have the ability to flash properly.
[XPERIA X10 General] digitall1982:
what about equalizer?
[XPERIA X10 General] oXunknownXo:
No , again, it's a software thing, if you compare X10 LED flash with other phones with LED flash it's exactly the same except the flash "flashing" instead of having to activate it like a flashlight and again, try vignette and you will see what i mean.

If you keep saying the same again then i'll suppose you just don't understand what am i talking about, i'm not talking about flash power and not comparing it with xenon flash.
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
I have Vignette, and after trying over 30 times to get it to do something other than turn on/off, even in a pitch black room, I'm not convinced. In a pitch black room, the "flash" from Vignette doesn't actually produce anything in the final picture. The flash comes on for about two seconds. By definition, "flash" is something quick, nothing more than a few tenths of a second.

I'm arguing that the LED in the X10 doesn't seem like a two stage LED (two different levels of brightness, one to focus and one for the actual picture), like most flashes on modern cameraphones. Hence the "weak" comment. It's nothing to get bent out of shape for. The camera is pretty good regardless.

This topic is useless and unrelated to the thread, so I'm going to drop it, to prevent further derailing.
[XPERIA X10 General] oXunknownXo:
That is what i'm talking about, it only works while you focus and while you are taking the picture, automatically, not like it does now.

There are a lot of phones with LED flash that work this way, the last one...the iPhone 4, which does exactly THE SAME vignette does, nobody is talking about power here, just to make it work better than it does now and that is software related.
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
Guys... this is the 2.1 News thread... maybe start a separate one for discussion about flash?
[XPERIA X10 General] roaringhere:
So my phone won't work anymore if there is no update? I bought a phone not a computer or something...
[XPERIA X10 General] mezo9090:
But what do you guys think, from the picture, timescape will be worth trying?
[XPERIA X10 General] Nimche:
OTA

So, we have been talking and hearing about 2.1 update. I am wondering how the Update over the Air check what server to download files from? Is it a link that it checks for updates or base on your firmware?

Mine says Generic Global then probably it won't check the UK?

Does anyone have answer to this?

Thank you in advance and sorry if it has been answered before(couldn't find it)
[XPERIA X10 General] iridaki:
It would be really weird if SE was working on an Android version that hasn't been yet released by Google. :p
[XPERIA X10 General] chris_knows:
Does anyone even know what Gingerbread will offer yet? How do you know it's not a version just for Android tablets?
[XPERIA X10 General] Manishalexin:
This update would be through SEUS or PC Companion. It was revealed in IFA. And the second update in dec would be through OTA.
[XPERIA X10 General] Nimche:
Thanks for the information but how would the SEUS system will figuer this out to contect to what server. Is it base on your firmware or the Version of the SEUS or the country of internet service? I mean there should be a way for the SEUS to know this right?
[XPERIA X10 General] mezo9090:
It checks se server if you are not branded and compare the firmware version and decide if you are updated or no ... Simple
[XPERIA X10 General] biktor_gj:
Of course it does. If your carrier has support for hsdpa /hsupa it will show, no matter if you're on 1.6, 2.0 or 1.0. Hsdpa exist since before the beginning of android phones ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] naplesbill:
For whatever reason, AT&T always disables the H and only shows 3G. I'm not sure why they find this necessary. It could be re-enabled on many devices but I'm not sure about this phone. The HSPA works just fine, it just doesn't differentiate it on the status bar.
[XPERIA X10 General] MoridinBG:
There is double click to zoom all over - browser, albums, everywhere. 2.1 @ mini pro.
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
Well, it obviously doesn't show on my phone, and I have an incredibly fast HSDPA network, hence, why I ask.
[XPERIA X10 General] sskeleton:
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[XPERIA X10 General] syzyec:
2.1X should be 2.2?
[XPERIA X10 General] mezo9090:
We will talk about that late when we get 2.1

Lol, our old news and kinda got ignored.
[XPERIA X10 General] mezo9090:
No, its still 2.1 but with timescape improvements.
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
@mezo

Yes, it should be 2.2, but for marketing purposes, they will not say anything about 2.2 until CES next year, but do not have your hopes down for 2.2 :o
[XPERIA X10 General] JohnXIII:
Hey fellas!

Told u about SE Xperia 2.1 being late in certain country, well look it up.

SE Canada confirmed on the ninth of septembre that Canadian Xperias would get theyre 2.1 update somewhere in q4, due to compatibility issues with Rogers. When asked sbout more precise timeline, SE answered q4 is from october to december.

Translation canadians : dont hold your breath, you might have a bad surprise.

So peace to you all and good luck. Seems we will need it plus a major dose of patience.
[XPERIA X10 General] 17mayis:
Sony Ericsson says:

September 15, 2010 at 4:38 pm

We will upgrade 2.2

Thanks for using our product!

source
[XPERIA X10 General] Araviel:
nothing news in france atm
[XPERIA X10 General] james_2k:
well anyone could have written that
[XPERIA X10 General] Contrarian:
If I wanted to listen to more whining I'd go in the other room and talk to my girlfriend.

The X10 will eventually see froyo but probably not until next year. As for gingerbread, I doubt Se would jeopordize sales of future products by making it available on the current model.

Phone manufacturers like Sony Ericsson know the life cycle of a smartphone is 2 years. Unfortunately, continued support in terms of software costs money and unless there is some type of benefit accruing from the update, they won't waste company resources providing it.
[XPERIA X10 General] mrtim123:
nah, 2.1x is kinda like a service pack 1. this roadmap only shows updates for 2010, so fingers crossed that 2.2 will pop up sometime in 2011.
[XPERIA X10 General] alankstiyo:
well is just Q4 at least is near to start 15 more days then we can wait 3 months knowing that 2.1 is almost coming

if it's january we're screwed xD
[XPERIA X10 General] Westerhoff:
News from Denmark!

On Sony Ericsson Denmark's facebook page, they say that we will have 2.1 within 2 weeks.

http://www.facebook.com/#!/sonyericssondk?ref=search

(It's all danish).

Fast translation:

"There have been many questions about the 2.1 update. We can confirm that the update will come within the next 2 weeks and will bring you: 5 homescreens with new widgets, video in 1280x720 (720p HD), general better performance, better integration with better social services and a lot more".

Hope it could help you guys a little ;-)
[XPERIA X10 General] metcard:
oh god... when se say two weeks they mean that in two weeks time they will announce that the firmware will roll out in two weeks etc for about a month until it eventually just pops up on seus 2 month late.

I guess this confirms a late Oct rollout.
[XPERIA X10 General] Contrarian:
When SE say it will be out in 2 weeks, it will be out in 2 weeks. Companies as large as sony have targets/milestones to reach and quarter 3 is one. If they don't, managers won't receive their bonuses and when managers can't have their bonuses, they get pissed, I mean really pissed. This is why I am confident the 2.1 update will be released in some form by the end of September. It may not reach everyone's phone by this date, but it will be made available to all carriers by the September 30 deadline.

If Rogers, AT&T,Vodafone,Singtel or Optus drag their feet and delay the update, then surely the postponement can't be viewed as SE's fault. Yes they were very naughty releasing the phone with donut, but at least they are giving us an update.
[XPERIA X10 General] MoridinBG:
The internal information is that there won't be (official) 2.2 for current generation devices.
[XPERIA X10 General] Westerhoff:
I will agree. As I know now SE, it will be on your phone within 2 weeks.
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
The internal information that no one on here would know.

Leaks are rumors, plain and simple.
[XPERIA X10 General] ronniecross:
hey guys

by time i got my X10 the next firmware update was R2BA020 (and the string of FWs to follow, i.e. 023, 024, etc) anyway I got fed up of waiting for O2-UK to get off their backsides and debranded. Eventually (not too long ago) O2-UK released the firmware.

Anyway, my question is (and I know there will be no definite answer) but what are the chances a generic UK firmware will be possible to manually upgrade with? not as in how long, but as in, ever. I mean, I have no problem with keeping the generic UK and if O2 release the update before a generic UK is available then I will replace my current FW with the O2 FW and then update from O2-UK's R2BA... to 2.1

but is it likely the whole mechanism for manually changing firmware will change, causing delays/impossibility of manually upgrading?

Sorry if my question is all a bit confusing, im just a bit in-experienced in comparison to most of you guys! :)