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[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] g2tl:
Here's the only thing keeping me away from sense roms. I've read a few posts regarding this as well, but they were all id's, not solutions.

After firing up a sense build, restoring sms from stock results in two separate threads per person (one for sent, another for received).

My guess is if I just wipe everything, all should be fine. My need is, of course, not having to lose all my precious 3000+ messages.

Anyone have any idea?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] g2tl:
bump........
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] g2tl:
no one has any idea? :/
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tazwik:
error message after the first installation, and then wont reboot.

i keep getting this error message:

differnces: (offset:original/backup)

65:01/00

not automatically fixing this file

/dev/block/mmcblkop1: 3531 file, 390986/485936 cluster failed

failed to find rootfs on sd card. you may need to unzip a rootfs zipfile to the root of your sd card

/bin/sh: cant access tty: job control turned off

#

then it take so long doing bunch of number in a very slow rate

then it take so long doing bunch of number in a very slow rate

i have: mattcfroyosense1.7, radio: 2.15.50.14,and omega v17 wwe..

it work the 1st time with mattcfroyosense 1.7 and froyo android 2.2

getting frustrating, keep taking battery off and trying again but still get stuck on the same spot.

it does it to all android that i use. do u have a solution?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dung8604:
What are you using to restore sms?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tazwik:
i got it boot up now by placing the files in the android folder. that work for a bit.

now when i boot up i get a green screen. what do i do now?
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[Captivate Accessories] alphadog00:
Or you can get a class 2 SanDisk at Amazon for $26

http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-micro...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1283216078&sr=8-1

There are deals everywhere - but buy a name brand. Personally, my class 2 is working fine for recording video - so i am no hurry to get a class 6 card.
[Captivate Accessories] schoolboy:
Avoid the too good to be true Chinese vendors

There are a few Chinese vendors selling 16 and 32 GB cards for WAY less than anyone should. From my vast ebay experience I would say none of them are for real. I saw no credible feedback and several odd positives (like "thanks for nothing" in German).

Buyer beware.
[Captivate Accessories] Dani897:
That's where I got mine :-)

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897
[Captivate Accessories] Dani897:
That's where I got mine, now I feel stupid for buying that 8 gig card for my aria from att at double the cost

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dazzzdelux:
I currently have a touch HD. I'm planning on upgrading to a desire. If I did would I be able to transfer the Tom Tom files from my HD to the desire, and have Tom Tom satnav on the desire?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 3722:
No. Currently, tomtom doesn't have an android version.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dazzzdelux:
Is there a good sat nave out for android? If so how much does it cost?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndroHero:
copilot live is the best, far better than winmo tomtom imo, it starts at about £25-30
[Android Apps and Games] rlamontjr:
can anyone please make a droid x eye LWP with a black background.

CLOSED.!
[Desire General] pp84:
Hi Everyone,

I thought id share the amazing battery life im having, ive had it going for 48 hours so far and still got 45% of my battery still left, ill tell you all my set up and i wish you can get the same.

Installed LeeDroids rom (1.9a) which is absolutely amazing i must say, i love it.

Got the new radio 32.44.00.32u_5.09.05.30_2.

SetCPU running and have the normal standby on the phone at 642mhz and 245mhz when the screen is off.

I also have a task killer on set to kill most apps when the screen turns off and i have read about androids memory management but it makes me feel better when i run it and i personally think it helps.

Finally, and possibly the most important is an app called AutoKiller that interacts with androids internal memory management system and i have that set to ultimate.

I think thats it, and i have been using the phone averagely, and have turned off wifi and mobile internet and only use it when i need it.

Good luck everyone, hope this is helpful in someway.
[Desire General] ljesh:
It was interesting to read until you said this

I personally refuse to turn off internet (wifi or mobile, same thing) on my SMARTPHONE. Cmon, that is why I bought it, because of the internet, and the fun things to do on it. If I use it for calls/sms only, I would have gotten something much cheaper.

Anyway, with hard usage my battery lasts for like 20 hours, and that is enough for me. I don't mind connecting it to a charger before I fall asleep, and disconnecting it when I wake up. Still I use the 1GHz CPU and the options the phone has fully :)
[Desire General] ohyeahar:
I'll have to agree with ljesh on this. If you deprive your smartphone of internet access, you've just turned it into a feature-phone.

But, I think you should turn off WiFi when you're not using it. That's just the smart thing to do...
[Desire General] flightposite:
Is there a battery of the same size with a higher capacity?
[Desire General] Tander_ZA:
No, there isin't.
[Desire General] pp84:
Just a quick update i ended up getting 63 hours out of one charge!

And i dont need to read what the weather is every 5 minutes thats the reason i dont generally keep mobile internet on... I just look up at the sky it tells me exactly what i need to know!
[Desire General] Tander_ZA:
Well, I have tried this and wow - what a difference, lol.

I am mostly around WiFi connections all day, so just use that instead for all my syncs. Mobile internet is used when I am out of range for short periods of time.

Thanks for the tip - works wonders.
[Desire General] ohyeahar:
[sarcasm]

1. Turn on Airplane mode all the time and don't wake the device from standby. According to the specs, the device will last up to 340 hours (ie, over 2 weeks).

2. Leave the device completely off. It will be months before your battery completely drains.

[/sarcasm]

Don't mind me, I'm just joking around. :D

But seriously, it would be interesting to know the battery life of a device set to your specifications but with mobile internet on. Turning it off, just seems like cheating, similar to how CPU overclock enthusiasts achieve crazy clockspeeds with liquid nitrogen cooling. Sure, you achieved your milestone, but is that really how the device is intended to be used?
[Desire General] BeeGee_Tokyo:
Why do you count network off as cheating. Why should it be on if you don't need it?

I am leaving network off most of the time, just switch it on when I want to surf or update my calendar/emails. Use Wifi whenever available. And SetCPU to minimize clock speed while the display is off.

Most email come from Softbank Japan thru a MMS type email application. Its a push mail system and you do not need to have network on for receiving it.

With this settings I get up to 24h, depending on who long I travel and read ebooks.
[Desire General] ohyeahar:
Not my intention to sound antagonistic. "Cheating" may be too strong of a word. Here's what I'm trying to say.

Obviously, it's up to the user to decide how to use the device. But what's also obvious is that the device cannot be fully utilized without an always-on connectivity.

Without an always-on connectivity, a lot of the widgets and applications instantly become useless or crippled.

Sure, not everyone uses widgets or applications that require always-on connectivity. But I'm willing to wager that a majority of the Desire user community utilizes such widgets and applications; so turning off mobile internet is just not an option for these people.
[Desire General] foxmeister:
I tend to agree.

I need the network to always be on, and so leave it so - though sometimes, I will put the phone into airplane mode overnight if I remember. Generally though I don't as I usually charge overnight anyway.

On Sunday night though, I'd charged the phone during the day and so didn't charge overnight. I used the phone quite heavily during the day, and in the evening watched about 3 hours worth of DivX video via RockPlayer. My phone complained of less than 15% charge after 26 hours, which to me was quite impressive given my usage, and I don't use *any* tweaks such as SetCPU or a task killers (which are placebos anyway).

Personally, if I can get a full day from my phone I'm happy - and I can do that with the Desire without having to do anything.

Regards,

Dave
[EVO 4G General] Jewish_DOctor:
AHHHHHhh! Why can't we have this for our phone damn it!?

http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.gmanapps.realhdmi
[EVO 4G General] ImJacksAmygdala:
Can you imagine using a wii classic controller kicking ass in Mortal Kombat on your HDTV through your phone?!?!
[EVO 4G General] SilverZero:
"First is . . . what other people try to beat."
[EVO 4G General] goodelyfe:
hopefully soon with cm6.1
[EVO 4G General] Ep3n3wp:
Damn... I wish I could have that on my evo...
[EVO 4G General] goodelyfe:
lets email the developer!!!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] haker1000:
I needs the ROM of the MichyPrima R 6.1 with Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional and SPL 1.20.

I was looking for links in google but they are all removed.

Athena_SPL1.2_WM6.1_B20931_WWE_R6.1-MiChY.rar

Please, help me....
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] MvP77:
I have seen over and over people state how they use ATK or other task killers to improve battery life, when in fact they are actually hurting android 2.2 multi tasking. In 2.2 google changed the api that devs used to kill apps in all other versions of android. I myself use Auto Killer and Auto starts. Those two apps tweak androids internal task manager and keep my phone running smooth

Even the creator of ATK and the other most popular task manager Advance task killer have stated it. Your better of using an app like Auto Killer ( http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.rs.autokiller ). It tweaks android internal task manager.

Here are a couple articles about why you dont need them in android 2.2

FAQ: Why You Shouldn’t Be Using a Task Killer with Android

http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/

Froyo update kills Android task killer apps

http://androinica.com/2010/08/09/froyo-update-kills-android-task-killer-apps/

Google and Cyanogen comments imply task killer/manager apps are pointless

http://androinica.com/2010/05/07/go...-imply-task-killermanager-apps-are-pointless/
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hazard99:
I am gunna try out the difference. I do follow cyanogen and I saw that exact tweet lol. at the time though i was on windows. we will see what happens.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hazard99:
This needs to be moved to the head of the class as it is great info and everyone should read.

There is a lot of people running around saying task killers need to be used.

THis isnt winmo.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] polo735:
The idea that leaving all your applications open not hurting performance or battery flies against what most of us expect to be true. Lately ATK hasn't worked. I'll kill all apps, then minutes later they will all reappear. I will try going without a task killer for a while and monitor subsequent battery life.

What about all the OCD people? I would imagine it being hard for people with OCD to not compulsively close tasks.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hazard99:
I would add the use of auto killer as the op has stated. It works in conjunction with the way android kills task. You can set it aggressively or not. I cannot quote on battery life as I tend to damage mine. Only a rogue app would cause major drain. I also use a program called data on demand. That works by turning off data when the phone is off and lock.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jigners:
this is indeed an interesting light for us all!

testing begins.:)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kabuk1:
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[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kabuk1:
As an actual sufferer of OCD who is trying out the no task killer method, I will say that it IS making me itch a little bit :/
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] peetuhr:
....need to stop killing tasks. Its hard. I'm so used to it now. Will report my findings!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] MvP77:
Glad to see everyone is finding this info helpful. The word really needs to be spread.

Also you can add an app called watchdog that monitors your memory and lets you know when it gets below a certain threshold. it will then notify you and let you know wich app caused the memory drain.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hazard99:
You can do it. Consider this the support group for those who don't use task killers.

Thank u mvp77 for bringing this to light. For me my hd2 runs so smooth!!!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kabuk1:
Well, with no task killer, after about 90 minutes of sitting on my desk at work, sending about 20 texts & listenening to 2 songs, my battery went from 70% to 35%. I was shocked at the accelerated battery drain, and I noticed that the back of my phone started getting hot too, which it NEVER did before I disabled the ATK. I re-enabled it around 5:30 on the way home, and after heavier texting, data, and music usage, it's only gone down to 22% after 4 hours.

I'm gonna conclude that my task killer serves a very good purpose, at least with my specific setup. Methinks I'll keep it enabled!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hazard99:
wow thats really strange because that actually goes against the way android actually works. as it stands the task killer is needlessly killing so called process's that may not even be active.

This is based on what the google android developers say. To each their own I will continue you to run without it as a see a speed increase without it. I would venture to say that there is a program that is causing problems.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] MvP77:
I have never experienced battery drain like that. It would seem you have a bad app causing it. I would suggest you install watchdog and set the threshold at 30% and see what app is causing the problem.

The Creator of ATK stated on his blog, witch I can't find now, that his app does not work the same with 2.2 because the API used is no longer there.

Also install autokiller and autostarts to tweak android internal task manager and to stop unnecessary apps from starting.

I think it is the placebo effect cyangon and others mentioned.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hazard99:
I actually think my screen is killing my battery. I have to much current draw as noted using current widget.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kabuk1:
I'll try Watchdog, and I've already got autokiller & autostarts installed.

I'm thinking about hard resetting. I've noticed that lately my battery hasn't even been charging completely, it only goes to 95% unless I charge it in WM or when it's turned off.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] xkravenx:
I believe I have the same issue running ShubCraft 1.5. 95% of the power consumption goes to display, while everything else is at 5%. This is after 1 hour of usage.

In comparison. If I use MattC SenseUI build. 45% goes to battery while everything else goes to Phone Standy or Idle.

Though I can get about 20 hours on Shubcraft instead of like 8 hours for MattC. SenseUI must be very taxing on battery.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hazard99:
Well Like i stated at the beginning I ruin batterys by constantly tethering or atleast I think it does.

Watching the current widget the ma's can be upwards of 150ma which isnt right at all. When I look at watchdog I am under 95% idle which means apps are behaving correctly.

looking at the battery information it shows that the display is using the most of my battery.

Watch dog states that the android system is using 1.3% of cpu.

If i select real time watchdog jump to 6.8 percent which is understandable since it isnt being passive.

Right now I think the screen management is the problem. I cant do this any scientific way but based on what I see it seems to be the only reasonable thought.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] thatruth132:
+1 for screen being the cause every thing i use to test shows as screen being the issue of battery drain next to some live wallpapers
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] eenbox:
100% AGREE!!!

I have tried Taskiller and ATK and both did what they were made to do but my battery simply was eaten 12% every hour... So, I uninstalled EVERYTHING related to "battery preservation" and installed AUTOKILLER - this gave me 60% improvement over my old setup and battery life... I now easily pull more than 24hrs in stand-by - about 15hrs with average usage!

FYI: When installing certain apps (as AutoKiller) allow three four charging cycles - use phone as usual and re-charge 3-4 times... You will see that battery self-operates into the best working option and it starts working great...

With setCpu and ATK installed (with kill set during screen off and setcpu on ignore list) I had 12% drain / hr on stand-by ...

Both have been uninstalled now and only Autokiller is installed (Akiller shrinks memory threshold so Apps are shut-down natural "organic" way by Android OS) and I get less than 5%/hr drain on batery...

How is that possible? Simple - Linux is not like WinMo or WinOS - running process does not necessarily means it will drain battery.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hazard99:
Your post rules! I am now no longer using any task manager. Watch dog has only reported my music app as a aggressive program.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] MvP77:
Glad it helped you save battery. Keep spreading the word!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] newbie2006:
What about all the OCD people? I would imagine it being hard for people with OCD to not compulsively close tasks.[/QUOTE]

hahahhahahahhahahahahahhah! now thats funny! OCD - i am one of those - installed autokiller so lets see if it matters.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hazard99:
hahahhahahahhahahahahahhah! now thats funny! OCD - i am one of those - installed autokiller so lets see if it matters.[/QUOTE]

Honestly and fundamentally it does work. I've gone deeper and watched some of the developers videos and its rather amazing how it works.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] eenbox:
Anytime - let's get the word spread out as much as we can...

Original thread author - very good post - Appreciate it very much!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] MvP77:
More Info.

http://www.zomut.com/watchdog/froyo
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] polo735:
So I've removed ATK from my hd2 and I think I'll leave it off. My battery life and performance have been the same. I don't have any stats or benchmarks to prove this but this is my opinion so far. It is nice to not feel the need to constantly check open apps to kill them.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] qipengart:
Autokiller is very effective in fact.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] MvP77:
Autokiller is a killer app ( no pun intended ) Its always the first app I install after a flash.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] souljaboy:
this is just getting stoopider and stoopider ... i dont know how can some of the ppl install android yet still be so dumb to not know what a taskkiller exactly does ??

fyi i get a measurable performance loss when my browser is in the Bg with a content heavy site ... enjoy ur battery degradation because of stupidity ... :rolleyes:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kabuk1:
I notice significant lagging & lockups when there are a lot of apps running in the background. Even if task killers aren't *technically* necessary, IMO they do make a beneficial difference in performance.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hazard99:
There has got to be another reason for the slow down. What is the point of having that ram if you arent going to use it? Now setting androids default task managing system a little more aggresive thats a good idea.

I hate task killers now. I enjoy my Android build more so with out it.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] MvP77:
I have been using android since release day of the G1. The first app I bought was advanced task manager. It was absolutely needed to keep my G1 and later my girlfriends my touch, running smooth. I even had it on my nexus one when I first bought it. Ever since 2.2 I have yet to use a task killer on either my N1 or HD2 and have seen no loss in battery life.

When my system does run slow watchdog warns me of what app is causing it and I stop the app using androids taskmanager. This is a very rare thing though.

Just today I got about 10hrs out of my battery. I had atleast 100 text, heavy emailing because of items I have for sale on Craigslist and about 20mins in calls. Plus some browsing and a lil angry birds.

All this with no task killer and autokiller set to aggressive. I'm currently running bangsters 1.1 with a script to stop the gsensor. I'm am also currently running the lastest version of launcher pro with 7 screens and Widgets on 5.

If you feel task killers are helping you then by all means continue on. I'm just pointing out that it has been proven that they are not necessary and a unneeded hassle.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] souljaboy:
for me i guess its not really about battery but performance , im a junkie i like to have every little bit ... i have taskkiller that clears tasks by 1 click from homescreen with a few ignores ... if i cared about battery id prob wouldnt have it runnin 1190 (till 30% except when screen is off) also i have no problems with carrying an extra battery ... i just dont like the feelin of not gettin the max outta the fone all the time :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] HectiQ:
I really wonder why all these apps are running in the background, because I didn't activate some at all, not even widgets, but still android keeps on loading them.. I want to know if there is a way around so apps only are active when you actually open them and not any other reason..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] MvP77:
You can try autostarts app to stop apps from loading at boot. If you have apps that have to fetch data though they are gonna start to fetch data. If you want to stop the app from fetching data then go in the app and manually stop it.

Having apps constinatly fetch data while it is bad for the battery, does not effect performance as android will close these apps when memory is needed.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] MvP77:
Got this info over at Android Mayahm
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hazard99:
prior post is a good read many people need to see this. I am on a crusade lol.