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[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LevitateJay:
I realise there was a giant mad thread about this that just got closed and I'm not interested in reforming that here. I have a few questions and would like some discussion but not interested in arguments :)

1) Prices where you are?

Where I live (New Zealand) Nexus One cost about the same as the Galaxy S. I'm just wondering is the Nexus One regarded as a cheaper phone in America or where ever you live (I realise it's not sold anymore, but before they stopped selling it) and when I say cheaper I mean purely money wise, not feel or anything.

I ask this because I've seen the statement before: "Galaxy S is great but it's not worth the extra money from a Nexus" and just wondering if that's how it really is.

2) Gaming?

I'm curious as I see a lot of people here defending their Nexus One's over the Galaxy S and I understand the reasons they give however I have a feeling all the people that prefer their Nexus One's to any Galaxy S series phone don't use their phones for gaming much, if at all. Would this be correct? :)

I currently own a Nexus One and I have to be honest for gaming it really sucks. I was so excited for Gameboy & Playstation emulators and I can't play any kind of RPG or Action game on them that requires me to push more than 1 button at a time or it registers my fingers all over the place!

My Situation

Due to prices being what I believe to be a little backwards here I can sell my old Nexus One (with a couple of little marks around it, etc, basically it's just used) and buy a BRAND NEW 8GB Galaxy S and it would only cost me a maximum of $100 ($70 US) or if things work out well it'd cost me nothing at all. Which brings me to question 3...

3) Should I 'upgrade'?

I know a lot of people don't consider it an 'upgrade' however for me personally I consider it entirely worth it for the GPU & multitouch alone. I brought my Nexus One excited of the idea of multi touch gaming and am guttered at how virtually any emulated or 3d game performs on my N1 (I was totally unaware of the lack of multi-touch when I brought the phone)

Also I'm interested in any sort of discussion on reasons for/against switching to a Galaxy S but please no NEXUS ONE IS BEST DIE IPHONE FANBOY GALAXY IS CHEAP PLASTIC crap. I love my Nexus but I feel the Galaxy better suits me. :)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smashpunks:
Ok. I was probably one of the ones who was arguing in the other thread but I didnt start it. I got bashed because I said the Galaxy is the better phone.

Anyways Im not going down that road again. Ive got both phones at this moment and if your into gaming I say go to the Galaxy. Is the galaxy a way better phone, no, But what it has is definetely a upgrade. Ive said it before and ill say it again. On the sgs I never have to check my memory worrying about if I got enough room to install a new app, I used to check daily on my n1. I never ever check memory as I still got over 1.2 gigs left and about 120 apps installed. Gaming, Im not to into gaming as Im a 27 year old man, but when I do Id like to be able to play them well, and On the n1 it was a total failure. Toon warz would wig out when you shoot and run at the same time and when you let go of shooting it will still be shooting because of the axis problem. Pinch to zoom alone even in the browser isnt even as close to the SGS.

The super amoled is way better than regular amoled and makes it look like a TFT screen.

Im not gonna go into more about how the sgs beats the n1 cause ive done that enough, so Ill answer your question.

Hell yes I am, the SGS is the better device, by a lot? No, but enough for me to upgrade. The MT alone is enough for a upgrade and you wanna play games? well the SGS has no problem playing toon warz. I need a top device that can multitouch, and the N1 will never, ever be able to play MT games well. Even the old Iphone2g had better MT screen than the n1. I actually laugh at people who think the N1 handles 3d games as well as the SGS. Just not gonna happen. Go on youtube and watch on Android.com I believe the benchmarks vs SGS against droid x, evo and n1, the dude even plays asphalt and even the Video maker says that the SGS blows it all away.

Im not dogging the n1 cause im keeping mine, its a great phone and a great developer phone, but if you want gaming or for movies, the n1 is just not the device for that. The SGS sounds more like its what your looking for, True MT, More responsive for games, bigger screen and Waaaay brighter.

SGS FTW....

No hating on me this time please. The n1 is great, but common, the SGS out Specs it in almost all departments.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Blueman101:
1) Not from what I remember, I payed $530 out right for my Nexus when it came out, Most of the current galaxy s phones are currently going for cheap on Amazon and such. I think it was basically free with a 2 year last I saw.

2) The GalaxyS has a getter GPU then the Nexus One (and most of the snapdragon phones to be fair) so the GalaxyS would most definitely play games better then the Nexus One.

3) It appears that 3D gaming is important to you, and if thats what you want the the GalxS phones should work great for you. Also the CPU is a smidgin' better on the GalxS then on the Nexus.

Most people in the Nexus One forums including myself see anything that doesnt give the freedom like a dev phone is a downgrade. That is where the "its not an upgrade" thing is coming from. Because with the mod community you basically never have an old phone, you can always flash a new rom and be totally different from anyone else.

-Cheers
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johnnie93:
If you want something for gaming i suggest waiting for a Tegra 2 tablet or if you dont like tablets LG is making some Tegra 2 Phones which will be super fast..or you can get the Milestone 2 when it comes out.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] uansari1:
I don't for a second believe Samsung will put the requisite priority on upgrading the OS to the latest Android. I think it will get upgraded, unlike the Behold II, but I don't think it'll happen for MONTHS after phones like the N1. Also, Touchwiz is hideous and changing to ADW or LP doesn't help with the cartoonish icons.

That being said, I AM jealous of the screen, processor, and multitouch sensor... just not enough to put myself into what I know will be a very frustrating position in a few months.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LevitateJay:
That's one thing I'll definitely miss however I'm an absolute sucker for interface and screens.

For example the physics bounce back in list menus on the Galaxy S! Such a simple thing but to me I see it as so important as it's something that you constantly encounter and I love the overall feel it gives to the device.

and I think anyone that has used it has to admit that the 4 inch screen is beautiful and I wasn't sure I would but after using it I think the 4inch is a great size (I'm thinking Droid X & EVO would be too big for me)

I'm sad to admit it but the iPhone still kicks Android's ass with its gestures and physics. I prefer Android in every other area of the OS but for example the Gallery and Web Browser in iPhone if you have a play with it you'll see what I mean with the pinch to zoom, it is really really nice to use. I always wished my Nexus had that and I'm glad to see Samsung took some steps towards getting that feel to Android (with the list bounce back etc.)

but back to my point. I love the developer side of my Nexus one and that we get new versions etc so early however I'm the sort of person that everytime I open the Gallery app I have to do a wee pinch on each photo just because I love gestures and multi touch so much or will unlock my phone just to look at the big screen and the live wallpaper with water rippling in my hand and I think thats why I feel so drawn to the Galaxy S with its giant bright screen and amazing GPU that can render that awesome Samsung live water wallpaper with ease (check it out if you haven't) :)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LevitateJay:
I see what you're saying and I considered this as well however with my situation that I mentioned in the OP I currently have the opportunity to move to a Galaxy S with little or no cost, however when it comes to these next generation devices coming out later this year my Nexus will be worth a lot less and it will cost a lot more to upgrade to them.

I probably will buy a new device about mid way through next year and I will be willing to put more money into one then, however I don't want to (or mainly my girlfriend doesn't want me to :p ) put another few hundred into a phone in a few months time.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smashpunks:
Pinch to peak is horrible on the n1. Funny thing is they added that while testing it on the n1. I guess they assumed no more clearpad 2000.

I love mt gestures as well. Feels futuristic.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LevitateJay:
I believe phones work different over there how you buy them on contract and get them cheaper etc.

Here you just buy whatever phone and put a sim card in it, be it 'pre-pay' or 'on account'. So all phones are 'unlocked'

Looking on Amazon Galaxy S phones are listed for 670 USD?

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Unlocked-Touchscreen-Slot-International-Warranty/dp/B003U2T57E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1283354829&sr=8-1 :confused:
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deeren:
i am the owner of a nexus one. nearly all my phones have been from htc. i love the htc brand because of the community(xda). it is a fact everybody has to agree. an example the i5700 (comparable to the hero) but u can take a look yourself who got the better development... xperia x10 ...excellent hardware but no community support and they merely got root.

Is it an upgrade?

Hmmmm...arguable. Hardware- absolutely. the samsung i9000 is definetely an upgrade in terms of hardware but u have to keep in mind that it is 7 months newer than n1. both phones have their goods and bads. no phone is perfect. I said arguable because i am sure software wise that n1 is and will be superior. Most of us here like to flash roms, change builds..... this makes the difference (as i stated in the beginning).i do not think i9000 will get the support of this community. Just take a look at how many custom roms are present for i9000. Also at the end of the year , n1(google's developers phone) will definetely be gettting the gingerbread whereas the i9000 will be stuck on 2.2. remember that i9000 already got the upgrade from 2.1 to froyo ; so 2 upgrades for a phone is less likely. this is the policy of phones companies, instead of pushing an upgrade for the phone, they will release a new phone with gingerbread .

Is it worth?

i wont be upgrading the n1 until the 2gz or dualcore processors are out:) but It depends on u and ur means. Phones nowadays do not reign as a flsgship more than 3-4 months , maybe less. eg... desire hd will be out soon, then in Q2 2011, samsung is releasing a phone with 2gz processor with 1gb memory, ... android 4.0. If you have the money, ... ur choice.

My advice...

If you are so concerned about gaming, sincerely.. i would advise you to take an iphone. I myself would never buy and iphone (hate it cause i am flash addicted and i am not into games).We here at xda tend to critisize the iphones but i have to admit that it is the best at multimedia purposes mainly gaming....

You can upgrade to i9000 if u want but maybe i am wrong but the android market currently do not have many graphical games that would suit ur needs nd by the time these games get developed, then it will be time to reupgrade the phone... vicious circle!
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LevitateJay:
Cyanogen Mod on Galaxy S

I'm not entirely about gaming and I couldn't stand to buy an iPhone, many things about it disgust me. Such as a homescreen that is only an app draw!? How they deny flash, how they block countless applications, how I have to run iTunes to do anything.. argh I could go on forever. So iPhone is not for me, I love Android. As I said before however if it came down to it I think I like live backgrounds, multitouch gestures, large screens more than I like the development side... Very tough choice though.

[Q] Cyanogen Mod on Galaxy S

Also on another note I believe Galaxy S series is soon going to become a Cyanogen Mod supported device which pretty much means it'll get all the development I need :cool: am I right in assuming this??

I mean, hell it even brought 2.2 to the G1! So I can assume if Cyanogen does a version 7 for 3.0 and Galaxy S is a supported device that I could eventually see 3.0 through Cyanogen Mod if Samsung never decided to do an update?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smashpunks:
This may help op. Even this dude wants to trade http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=cl4p5JI0-gQ
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LevitateJay:
haha yeah I saw that video the other day. The GPU is amazing in the Galaxy S phones, definitely in a league of its own at the moment.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonscapri:
If your just going to use the phone as it is I would say galaxy s, but on the flip side if to want root and gear developer base be patient or go with the nexus 1.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LevitateJay:
I'm not really that worried about Galaxy S development btw. There has been more than 2 million (I think it might be over 3?) sold already counting US & International version sales. Just two days ago when a test Froyo build got leaked the Galaxy S (international) development thread had over 1000 people viewing it. I think all the rom development (although there already are a few out atm) are waiting for Samsungs offical 2.2 which is coming out in a couple of weeks.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sl8125:
Galaxy TAB. Prob run same as the Galaxy S. Why go with 4" when you can have 7" screen. Wait and see tomorrow what the specs are going to be. Keep your n1 and wait for the TAB i say. I bought a captivate. Surely a great phone. I got frustrated with the development on the Captivate. I figured it will be that way. CM will be out but who knows when it will be released no word. I bet when a official froyo will be released they will release the CM6 as well. Gives them some time to work on it. If you really want to game and watch movie do it on a bigger screen. Why on a 4" screen. My n1 will hold up to what i need to do to survive a day without any laggs, glitch or whateva i throw at it. It runs like a champ. N1 will only be replaced by N1. Yeah not good for game but it will do everything else. So if you looking for a gamer type of phone, SGS is good to go but you will be without much development. Plus even with CM, i don't see ginerbread running on the SGS. My 2 cents.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smashpunks:
Development will be just fine. Like you said, all 4 carriers and sold a lot so far. More people are on the sgs.

You wont regret it, I say go sgs ...
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Blueman101:
Dont be confused here, they are separate phones, each will require different roms. Do not make the mistake of counting all sgs phones in the same basket, as far as the mod community is concerned they are separate phones each require separately coded roms.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deeren:
Agreed!!!!! all galaxy s phones are not the same!

Also another point to be noted is that number of phones sold is not necessarily directly proportional to the development ...

e.g, 1. i guess that (like they say) nexus one is a flop in sales but however has had enormous activity in the development section.

2. Motorola milestone/droid had an enormous success in sales(also sold millions). but did it have the kind of development we are used to???:confused:

It all comes to whether Samsung will improve their security on the bootloader bla bla bla on their froyo upgrade. and depends whether the quality chefs are shifting to the sgs or not.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smashpunks:
Correct, but they will be easy to cross mod since most the files and codes are alike, yes they will require different Roms and etc, but if the epic 4g can do something chances are the others can with a slightly different way.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Blueman101:
True, they will be similar but to expect a Dev to make one rom (they take a lot of work) and then make 3 more similar roms is a lot to expect. Im not trying to be johnny raincloud but to think that the sgs Dev community will EVER be as big as the Nexus one dev community is an out right fabrication. But yes the sgs dev community will not be barren. If your a guy who likes flashing roms and themes and such I would still highly advise the Nexus One still. The sgs is a great phone, but it wont ever reach the popularity in the mod community as the Nexus One

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[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smashpunks:
Actually I believe the sgs will have as big of a community, look at the tp2 it was released on 4 carriers and had major development. I don't think it will be quite as strong, but close. Now of course regardless of sgs development the n1 will receive updates first making the development side go to the n1, but don't count sgs out in that department its gonna have a lot of devs. :u
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LevitateJay:
iPhone is a terrible phone to develop for, yet because of sheer numbers they have a massive Jailbreak community developing some really quality stuff for it...

The Galaxy S international forum already appears to be more active than the Nexus One forum here everytime I have checked. Combining the numbers of the Captivate, Vibrant & i9000 would make it the largest without a doubt :eek:

*edit* not saying the development will beat the Nexus. It's hard to compete with how open the Nexus is and there are some great quality devs working on it too. But I don't think the development will flop! I see some people saying if you want root if you want roms etc. That's a bit OTT, there is already root & custom roms for the Galaxy!
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] osugsxr:
Very tempted to trade my n1 for the vibrant. Enjoy flashing roms and modifying them , think I spend too much time doing so, it is just a phone. Basically a new hobby, not sure what ill do but the points made on this forum are very good. Both phons are solid choices, development is fun , n1 is becoming out dated and many new phone will arrive. Thought about the epic as well, sell the nexus and buy epic used, month to month contract
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sl8125:
N1 is not out dated. It still best performing android out there. Sure there's been some upgrade hardware out there but not dated. I had a captivate. Screen is nice. Graphic is nice. However I am all about modds. Dev kept me frustrated. Eventhough these phones run onall carriers they will have many differences. One mod or rom will not work all four different phone. They will have to be ported and be remodded in order to have it work on there phone. Little fix here and there might work. But roms will never be exchanged around the sgs community. I like the device but its just not for me. N1 is capable of doing everything it needs for me. I will wait for the next real device. Til then n1 stays in my pocket.

Edit: Here it is. Galaxy Tab. Now this is worth leaving your N1 at home. Try fitting this in your pocket.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/02/samsung-galaxy-tab-preview/
[Droid X Themes and Apps] jvward:
Hi Everyone,

I was wondering currently I have tested out the Wireless Tether app and its not working for me. I have tried it with or with out access control and neither works. I was wondering if anyone know of an app that works with 2.2 or some changes that need to be made to get it working.

Thanks!
[Droid X Themes and Apps] dr154:
yeah i had that problem too... but the following worked for me with access control on or off and ssd name changed.

1. install this one - http://android-wifi-tether.googlecode.com/files/wireless_tether_2_0_5-pre8.apk

2. restart phone

3. test it out.

4. let us know who it worked. :)
[Droid X Themes and Apps] jvward:
Hi,

I updated the APK rebooted, I am still not able to see the device. I also tried removing permissions from the old app from superuser and regranting them. Any other ideas?
[Droid X Themes and Apps] dr154:
truely weird, is it a desktop/laptop your searching for wireless signal?

uninstall the apk, reboot, reinstall, reboot, and try...
[Droid X Themes and Apps] jvward:
Will try when I get home, its a laptop.
[Droid X Themes and Apps] jess1313:
The copy you uploaded works except for access control, as soon as i enable it it will still connect to the computer but there is no internet access and wifi tether reports starting with errors. WEP still seems to work.
[Droid X Themes and Apps] Ezun:
Same here. Anyone find a solution?
[Droid X Themes and Apps] dr154:
just uninstall wifi tethering app and trying one of these from here....

http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
[Droid X Themes and Apps] drewden123:
I just use Barnacle Wifi Tether and it works fine.
[Droid X Themes and Apps] GoogleisGod:
Barnacle and the app posted earlier wont work for me either. Ive uninstalled and reinstalled several times. Nothing seems to work
[Droid X Themes and Apps] eighty1:
Same here for me.
[Droid X Themes and Apps] kameleongt:
I've been usingbarnacle from 2.1 to2.2 on droid it stoppedworkinafter I updated to 2.2 then realized it was because I lost root... make sure ur still rooted should've working.
[Droid X Themes and Apps] TheBigBentley:
I definitely still have root and neither apps have worked for me. My computers see the phone, I just cant connect. Ive tried on Ubuntu and Windows XP with no luck no matter what settings I use.
[Droid X Themes and Apps] kameleongt:
this just happened to me this weekend, it worked with a friends laptop then I shut it off for a while and on next start up it says i'm up and running but the laptop couldn't connect to it anymore. Then again last night I got error and wouldn't start up i'll try to post what the error was on mine. that was using barnacle teather. I endedup using pdanet or w/e but needed to wire it up for it to work.