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[XPERIA X10 General] xeviro:
that is exactly what i'm saying in my previous post.

for example,

suddenly out of nowhere, SE release 2.1 for Singapore Starhub branded

and no one ever had the Starhub FW for manual flash

then they changed the SEUS that much that we cannot make dump anymore or debrand with the swap method

for unknown reason, other brand FW will be delayed by one month

in conclusion, we cannot manually upgrade to Starhub 2.1 :rolleyes: because we cannot manually debrand our X10 to Starhub FW to update via SEUS

of course its a bit paranoid to think about this. lol.. but for those who like to taste the 2.1 ASAP, hell will break loose. :D

but i think with our collections of manual flash FW, the chance of we don't have the original FW which is the first to received 2.1 is very slim.
[XPERIA X10 General] ronniecross:
I shall cross my fingers at that then! I remember when I debranded, SE had just updated their software to make it harder to manual flash, so I had to drop the dump files in on the last second before the download of the existing FW had finished timing it just right. I'm hoping they don't make it any harder than that :P
[XPERIA X10 General] xeviro:
you might consider to decrypt you own O2 rom, if there's none to be found in this forum. at least when you bring back the device to customer service for repair or whatever issue, they don't have excuses to reject you because you debranded the phone. :D

last time i go and inquiry about music service, then the cs take the phone and go discuss with his colleague. checking a lot of things, go to the settings. i was bit afraid they found that i debranded my phone then make noise.
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
ok, stop with the fake rumors please, internal information has nothing on 2.2 at the moment. They are busy with the next 2.1 update for December. After mid December, THEN they will begin their next major update for Q1. There's already at least 3 more major updates planned, so keep your peace. It's not worth lying when the roadmap is with some of us.
[XPERIA X10 General] miguelsantos1979:
Will there be the "famous" single zoom on X10 that we had seen on those development videos?
[XPERIA X10 General] adithefunkid:
some serious info.

hi ppl . . . I am from India where we guys don't have branded phones and all. one of my good friends working at Sony Ericsson India told me last night that on 23rd Sep India and UK generic will see the update most probably . update will be ota. about 206 mb and no multi touch no 16m colours , you will be able to store apps to SD card. better timescape widget , live wallpapers,hd recording , no flash light for camera , 5 home screens.

another update in Dec which is internally known as 2.1.3 will give single fingers zoom , 16m colors and flash for the browser!!!!

x10 will see 2.2 in Feb after the release of eclario also known as x12 :-):-):-)
[XPERIA X10 General] z1984z:
Brazil Schedule

Hi, this is my first post. In Brazil the update to 2.1 is schedule to end of octuber and november. The source is the official Brazilian Sony Ericcson Blog (google sony ericcson preview brasil)

(sorry for my bad english)

z1984z
[XPERIA X10 General] Contrarian:
"hi ppl . . . I am from India where we guys don't have branded phones and all. one of my good friends working at Sony Ericsson India told me last night that on 23rd Sep India and UK generic will see the update most probably . update will be ota. about 206 mb and no multi touch no 16m colours , you will be able to store apps to SD card. better timescape widget , live wallpapers,hd recording , no flash light for camera , 5 home screens.

another update in Dec which is internally known as 2.1.3 will give single fingers zoom , 16m colors and flash for the browser!!!!

x10 will see 2.2 in Feb after the release of eclario also known as x12 :-):-):-)"

Now this is a rumour I can probably believe, even though I may not like it.

PS. The x10 mini already has single finger zoom on photos and the xscope GL browser.
[XPERIA X10 General] Contrarian:
"that is exactly what i'm saying in my previous post.

for example,

* suddenly out of nowhere, SE release 2.1 for Singapore Starhub branded

* and no one ever had the Starhub FW for manual flash

* then they changed the SEUS that much that we cannot make dump anymore or debrand with the swap method

* for unknown reason, other brand FW will be delayed by one month

in conclusion, we cannot manually upgrade to Starhub 2.1 because we cannot manually debrand our X10 to Starhub FW to update via SEUS"

What is this crap??? I think if someone in Singapore had 2.1 we would have seen a video by now.
[XPERIA X10 General] qwer23:
sound plausible and good :)

hopefully you're not another troll or account made by iHim...

Cheers

qwer23
[XPERIA X10 General] lostsouls:
Theres no news, nothing on the update. Bullsh*t
[XPERIA X10 General] Sighx:
Well.. it is his first post like all most of the other people who claims this and that..

EDIT:: The x12 specs sounds and looks so godly.. 1080 HD recording.. 12MP cam..2.2 starts but might release with gingerbread.. 16gb internal mem.. 1.5GH something something.. amoled screen... **** I want it now :D
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
I can't seem to find what you're talking about.. can you post a link?
[XPERIA X10 General] mezo9090:
I can believe that.. Reasonable .. Kinda .. If you had more posts I would believe you more but anyway lets all have fresh air until 23rd

It will be the day their server cry from traffic :P
[XPERIA X10 General] mezo9090:
Amoled right... *lie detector*
[XPERIA X10 General] TechGuru_x10:
Something to cheer......7 days to go......
[XPERIA X10 General] Ardit:
cannot belive it!

just received the notification of a software update!

will rush home and see what happeans, it says i need a computer to do the installation.
[XPERIA X10 General] Ballfuzz:
I have a question. Since it will be the carriers that release the update, what if I bought a phone originally from Rogers and unlocked it to use on the Telus network?

How am I supposed to update then?
[XPERIA X10 General] TechGuru_x10:
Good Luck Buddy....
[XPERIA X10 General] Ardit:
adding to the previous post,

im in france receiving the notification!
[XPERIA X10 General] thunderpossuem:
i quite like the sound of all this. fingers crossed aye.
[XPERIA X10 General] z1984z:
I can´t post links....

www . sonyericsson . com / br / preview / geral/ a-atualizacao-do-android-na-familia-xperia%E2%84%A2

(take the spaces and go there....)
[XPERIA X10 General] _EriK_:
Troll? 026? Who knows...:p
[XPERIA X10 General] grh_angelone:
Problably the same update some of us installed last week.

Me included.

Still 1.6 and you have to root everything again.

If it's under 200mb don't update.
[XPERIA X10 General] metcard:
99% chance that it's just the 026 update.;)
[XPERIA X10 General] ronniecross:
Takes me to an error page?
[XPERIA X10 General] z1984z:
I sent the link in pvt

thanks
[XPERIA X10 General] ronniecross:
http://www.sonyericsson.com/br/preview/geral/a-atualizacao-do-android-na-familia-xperia™

Brazil = End of October to Early November

Also mentions an OTA prompt that the new version is available, but thereafter you will need to connect to PC Companion to update
[XPERIA X10 General] z1984z:
thanks!!!!
[XPERIA X10 General] kbadone:
sounds legit;) but still its good to know we are getting Froyo
[XPERIA X10 General] xeviro:
haiz, you guys so typical singaporean. only read halfway only read what you want to read, then you complains. you probably just read "X10", "StarHub", "2.1" only, then make noise. go fly kite le. you don't even quote the whole post.

anyway. now calm down, read the whole post again

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=8153343&postcount=268

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=8168474&postcount=326

i really regret using Singapore Ops brand as example. lol. In fact should mark the "FOR EXAMPLE," as bold and red.
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
You nailed it until you said eclario or X12. The successor of the X10 is much more Japanese than u think. The name is actually taken from a Japanese card-battle manga character :) You can guess it yourselves

But didn't I ALREADY mentioned all that!?

None of those will be on it, except 1080p and 2.2 Core. Amoled? You do know Sony manufactures Super-LCD right? that's like stabbing itself in the stomach. Amoled belongs to Samsung, Sony has Super-LCD. I already said, for the X10 owners, it won't be much of a surprise. It's best to hang on to your X10's. It's purpose is for a different market.
[XPERIA X10 General] lornova:
Of course NOT. On 1.6 it shows "3G" even if you are on HSDPA.
[XPERIA X10 General] naplesbill:
That is carrier dependent. AT&T restricts all 3G to the 3G icon. The remove the H icon on all their devices. I'm not really sure why.
[XPERIA X10 General] ratheen:
well, everything you say makes sense, however the name for x12 - Eclario, it sounds fishy.

anyone else notice Éclair-io
[XPERIA X10 General] adithefunkid:
some more info about Dec update..........

a whole new 3d user interface for mediascape and timescape.....

flash support for browser ......
[XPERIA X10 General] mezo9090:
Where exactly you get these info ?

Don't expect we believe you with blinded eyes.
[XPERIA X10 General] Contrarian:
So sick of the BS and whining I'm actually embarassed to admit I own an x10.

This is how it stands - If you want your answers read on, if not keep moving along in your ignorant little world:

Most of this information has already been confirmed by "unknown13x" whom I believe to be a credible source. The quote is from another blog member. So far all of his information has proved to be spot on, so I have no reason to doubt his source-

Originally Posted by adithefunkid View Post

hi ppl . . . I am from India where we guys don't have branded phones and all. one of my good friends working at Sony Ericsson India told me last night that on 23rd Sep India and UK generic will see the update most probably . update will be ota. about 206 mb and no multi touch no 16m colours , you will be able to store apps to SD card. better timescape widget , live wallpapers,hd recording , no flash light for camera , 5 home screens.

another update in Dec which is internally known as 2.1.3 will give single fingers zoom , 16m colors and flash for the browser!!!!

x10 will see 2.2 in Feb after the release of eclario also known as x12 :-):-):-)"

Now for the evidence:

These appear to be genuine leaked screenshots of 2.1

http://gallery.apnafundaz.com/admin...+_amp_+features-Widgets-UXP-speed-UI.png.html

Finally, to sum up - If you're not happy with what you see sell your friggin x10 and stop annoying the crap out of everyone else on this forum.
[XPERIA X10 General] MoridinBG:
The successor is going to retain the 8mpx, but would go xmos (some internal Sony's development), the display would be Bravia branded and I think it would probably be SLCD. Q3-Q4 release with 3.0.
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
Those specs would put it below their Bravia phones here in Japan...far below. The Bravia branding is only used for television-capable phones. Xperia is smartphones, Walkman for music phones, ect.

See, I refuted your point with class, instead of pointing how you don't have a source, 3.0 doesn't exist, and Q3 ends in two weeks.
[XPERIA X10 General] Wolfbreak:
I think he means Q3 next Year and when not i dont think its true.
[XPERIA X10 General] oXunknownXo:
I found this in a gallery full of X10's 2.1 version pics:
[XPERIA X10 General] AndyD777:
Why does it have fake in the name? LOL
[XPERIA X10 General] iridaki:
Exactly! ;)

But even if it is not fake, export does not mean apps2sd.

If it were to move the app data to SD, it should say "Move to SD".

I am guessing it gives you the option to export the apk file to SD,

as some sort of backup option!
[XPERIA X10 General] Chewitt:
im sure that on that document from the SE press event that just passed it statsed on there that A2SD will be on there 2.1, it would make sence for SE to back-port features to there 2.1 and use that as a pot for not going to 2.2 straight off like they did with 1.6. Remember the SE UI gave us extra features and enhancements and i have no doubt that 2.1 will be the same.
[XPERIA X10 General] nkolsen:
Sounds very plausible...
[XPERIA X10 General] iridaki:
This is the leaked roadmap document and it does not mention apps2sd anywhere... :rolleyes:
[XPERIA X10 General] Manishalexin:
The name was intended to mean, Apps2Sd or App? I mean I was not yet sure of this apps2SD feature backport and i got this screenshot! This is in Chinese so i don't really understand that, is it the rumored Apps2SD BackPort screen shot or just a app that does Apps2SD ( like in rooted phones? ) or probably something ir-relevant!

Anyone, care to translate?
[XPERIA X10 General] mek84:
SE sucks !!

I want a date...nothing more....after that, we as COSTUMERS, can decide......

It also was a big failure, giving the Flagship just 256mb ram....ridiculous....
[XPERIA X10 General] nkolsen:
Then sell it, and let the rest of us enjoy our phone....
[XPERIA X10 General] iridaki:
As I've written a few posts above, it is not necessarily a fake screenshot,

BUT export to SD does not mean install to SD (a.k.a apps2SD).

If it were to move the app data to SD, it should say "Move to SD".

I am guessing it gives you the option to export the apk file to SD,

as some sort of

backup

option (like Astro, for one, already does).

So, yes, it could be a third-party app that creates backups for installed application.

And to be over with it, as this community cannot take another round of invalid arguments over false rumours, apps2SD is not mentioned anywhere officially for the upcoming 2.1 update.

Why would they mention 720p recording, continuous video auto-focus, 5 homescreens, HTML5 etc and not such a major backport from FroYo as apps2SD? :confused: Especially with users literally flooding the net with complaints about (lack of) FroYo on X10.
[XPERIA X10 General] mezo9090:
My_Immortal have a point in the above post so guys unless you have a leaked rom, Don't talk about that again..

Btw.. this thread should be renamed " 2.1 chit-chat thread " xD
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
Did you make an account just to troll with that post? I hope you get banned for that.

The X10 isn't a failure. 256MB RAM in a phone is more than enough, and it's only a limitation of 1.6, not what the phone actually has. Please, troll elsewhere.
[XPERIA X10 General] reptile64:
384mb ram ;-)
[XPERIA X10 General] ronniecross:
My phone tells me I have a software update and to update by SEUS, which I imagine is just the kernel update which unroots which I'm fine with,

however as I've debranded my phone, is that likely to cause any issues with the update, like put me back on the O2 firmware, etc?
[XPERIA X10 General] Chewitt:
I will try to find it, was looking at it on my work pc and so i will have to look for the link there.
[XPERIA X10 General] mymagicmyhero:
Did you saw those awful video interface? It's so f**king ugly!!! I loved the circled buttons and the clean view! Now it's absolutely ugly! I'm going to hate SE so much for this... They're just trying to kill everything cool in this phone...
[XPERIA X10 General] peter_15:
how about the video-out? any news for it?
[XPERIA X10 General] freelycat:
bad news everyone.....

That's what I found on twitter
[XPERIA X10 General] anjo2:
where is the new? bad? i dont understand...
[XPERIA X10 General] 17mayis:
guyz when the 2.1 come's out how do we get the update through SEUS or what?
[XPERIA X10 General] SXUsr:
You would have thought so.
[XPERIA X10 General] Greenycq20:
just noticed on the sony SDK site that they have updated specs for the xperia's

intresting info http://developer.sonyericsson.com/wportal/devworld/technology/android/developer-tools?cc=gb&lc=en

Android1.6**

2.1 (Q3/2010)**

4 inch screen

Capacitive*

854 x 480 pixels

* Capacitive touch screen is single-touch. Check out our powerful one-finger zoom video and tutorial.

** Information correct as at July 2010; see Product Blog for full details and the latest announcements.

i also LOL when i saw they have typed EXPERIA as all the brand names

EXPERIA™ X10
[XPERIA X10 General] rmourar:
Guys, do you think that will be possible after the release in Europe of 2.1 to upgrade in Brazil with a similar trick as debranding??

thanks, technology takes a LOOOOOOOOOOONG time to get here... it's a pain considering we are among the 10 biggest in the world in almost every category possible but it seems technology companies don't really like us...

just as an example the Playstation 3 has been launched officially in brazil last month...

sad....:(
[XPERIA X10 General] Contrarian:
What happened with mr 2.1 from france?? I notice the thread is now gone, so i'm just curious.
[XPERIA X10 General] SXUsr:
He said he'd post some screen-shots today, so time will tell.
[XPERIA X10 General] Astral07:
what about us that have a rooted phone?
[XPERIA X10 General] SXUsr:
You may have to unroot it by running SEUS before hand, or with the app depending which way you rooted.
[XPERIA X10 General] mmsbludhound:
Last I heard, he got terminated by someone from the Sony Ericsson Secret Police, no? :rolleyes:
[XPERIA X10 General] saltorio:
Based on how long it's taken some of the old Android phones on Rogers to get 2.1, and that to my knowledge Rogers is still on firmware R2BA020, I'm assuming it'll be quite a while after other countries get the 2.1 update before we see anything here in Canada.

With that said, I hope the devs here can get a generic X10a 2.1 firmware or somehow cobble a hack out of the X10i firmware so we don't have to wait.
[XPERIA X10 General] ddewbofh:
A quick question re: Canadian phones and firmwares.

Canada is bilingual right? Or at least parts of it. How do they handle the language and localization? Like do you get English when you set it to certain provinces and French in others or is that entirely up to the end user?

If they have to fiddle with the translations it might explain why it takes longer for Canada to get updates.

Just pondering. :)
[XPERIA X10 General] phoneguy 4567:
I can't remember for sure but when I first turned on the phone it presented me with a list of languages to pick from. I don't think the delay has anything to do with languages, but more that some firmwares may contain region specific requests like different radio basebands etc. Or it could be there is laziness on the part of the carriers or SE in certain regions.
[XPERIA X10 General] Terul:
Well, when you first set up your X10 it asks you for your language and you can choose from a wide variety.

However, you are correct. Canada is officially and legally bilingual. By law everything has to come in French and English. For things like cereal boxes, it often just means printing both languages on the box (see this image http://callhart.com/crazy/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/pa180035.JPG). As for things such as electronics, often the device will be sold as (EN) or (FR) so you can choose before you purchase it. Most electronics are like the X10 and will come with a multitude of languages to select on set up.

Also, all manuals are printed in both English and French.

I doubt that the translations are what slows down releases in Canada. For the X10, I think the main thing that will slow down release is the installation of the Rogers branded software.
[XPERIA X10 General] ddewbofh:
Cool, thanks for the information. Sorry for going off-topic but I've been genuinely curious over this but never bothered to do any actual research on it.
[XPERIA X10 General] saltorio:
Yeah, I'd have to agree it's not likely to be the language that holds it up. Afterall I think the firmware tends to get released in France pretty early in comparison to Canada, and so there wouldn't be any hold-up over here for French translation.

It doesn't make much sense to me that it'd be Rogers branded software either, as there really isn't that much of it (their account management app and their crappy UR music player), both of which already run fine on Android 2.1.
[XPERIA X10 General] anders260:
This is hilarious, SE Dev Blog talking about Live wallpapers, even if we not have this yet

http://blogs.sonyericsson.com[....]s-from-draining-phone-battery/
[XPERIA X10 General] HunteronX:
LOL - they are ridiculous...
[XPERIA X10 General] ddewbofh:
Yeah, god forbid that they should plan ahead. :P
[XPERIA X10 General] SXUsr:
I take it we've not seen any pictures of 2.1 on an X10 from France yet?, or have I just not got round to finding the thread. :rolleyes:
[XPERIA X10 General] SpinkyBABY:
2.1 Update on Orange UK

OK, before I begin; Given the responses to some of the other posts surrounding this subject. Peeps can choose to accept what I am telling you as the truth, or not... but please do not flame.

For the news....

I work for Orange UK and have it on good authority from a colleague that works within our central Banbury warehouse, that they will be recieiving their first batch of X10's with Orange branded firmwares mid to late next week.

Usual process is one week of testing before being 'built' for distribution.

We believe that the shipping date to stores and other channels will be WC 20/09/10.

At this time Orange will also release the OTA update in staggered manner which is usually dictated by what HLR (Home Location Register) you are on.

I can only summise that this is the intended date of when SE plan to release 2.1 here in the UK, as Orange would most definately not be allowed to ship before SE does
[XPERIA X10 General] Findee:
We have already known it would not include multitouch for months!

People need to just move on and forget about multitouch.
[XPERIA X10 General] alankstiyo:
no froyo Q_Q damn that's bad hope this phone doesn't get out to date just like the x1
[XPERIA X10 General] xGary:
This sucks... SE is already late and they are only releasing half of the 2.1 update... 720p recording is really useless to me... I was looking forward to 16M colours... Cant wait till the bootloader is cracked...
[XPERIA X10 General] nkolsen:
Have they ever said that you will get 16M colors ? no. Get back to reality, and only take what SE have confirmed to be true...
[XPERIA X10 General] olisun39:
I am guess the 2.1 update will be released on Monday (20-09-2010) the same day as the PS3 3D update is released...
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=776035&page=9

This could be our future.... Seem strangely familiar to anyone!??

I all can conclude is that we're all predisposed to whining and never being satisfied..!!
[XPERIA X10 General] Contrarian:
I give up with you idiots.

You're right, It's all a huge conspiracy by SE to extort money from the US, Canadian, UK, Greek and South American economies by lying to consumers about product features and future firmware updates. Those evil Japanese and Swedes will do anything to make a quick buck.

Trade in your x10's for a brain.
[XPERIA X10 General] ronniecross:
*likes this*
[XPERIA X10 General] ronniecross:
for christ sake, seriously, am I missing something major here??? We were told by the end of Q3. when we reach Q4 and still don't have the update, i'll run around like a headless chicken screaming Armageddon, but in the mean time guys, I suggest you get yourselves to your local doctor surgery and request some prozac because you guys need calming down, it's not the end of the world!!

Geezus!!!!
[XPERIA X10 General] jaykeeley:
probably wasn't really worth trying until SE announce the date, but T-Mob UK seem to be keeping quiet about it

Hi Jay, no news yet but as soon as we know we will put out a tweet :O)