yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Vibrant Android Development] gordon.mott:
More info on this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=701459

More info on this chip:

http://www.ubmtechinsights.com/repo...stigative-analysis/samsung-galaxy-s/teardown/

Interesting that the part number cited is:

NEC MC-10170 008KU712
[Vibrant Android Development] scrizz:
Even broken, this phone won't sell that cheap..

it retails for $500 :rolleyes:

the sd cards alone are around $40 :p ;)
[Vibrant Android Development] kingkurry:
So anyone wanna donate a bricked Galaxy S? OR maybe an epic lol.
[Vibrant Android Development] kuraiShin:
i am hoping to see this go smoothly, I Would benefit from this very much since i normally cant see my partner very often.
[Vibrant Android Development] blackoakx22:
if any new news comes out about this actually working email me i wouldnt mind doing this to my phone. seanmc98@gmail.com i will look for the parts also and pay for the parts and labor if it works.
[Vibrant Android Development] tiensinh99:
anyone dare to order from this website minimun 2 per order

http://www.globaldirectparts.com/OEM-Samsung-i9000-Camera-Flex-Cable-p/smsng6087125.htm
[Vibrant Android Development] almyz125:
i get payed at the end of this week, i am currently broke, ill purchase it as my brother has a vibrant too so the other wont go to waste, but as of now it will be pointless to have, since there will be no support for it in the kernel.
[Vibrant Android Development] scrizz:
I think that's not going to be the hard part!

when we get these, I'm sure people will be interested.

;) :D
[Vibrant Android Development] siirial:
This is what I bought. Updated original post. Already installed. Working on the software side atm. trying to get some help from a dev with more knowledge of this than i.
[Vibrant Android Development] Julianmgn:
so u drill a hole threw the glass?
[Vibrant Android Development] siirial:
NO!!! After more consideration, drilling is dangerous to the digitizer and not necessary. The only thing needed to give the ffc a view is to remove the black paint. I had some denatured alcohol laying around the garage for cleaning paint brushes, so I tried that with some success. It made the paint gooey, but with some careful (very careful, as metal can scratch glass rather easily) scraping with a small flat head screw driver and a tiny razor, i got the circle open for the ffc.

again, be very careful when trying to remove the paint. it is just a small layar, then its the digitizer glass
[Vibrant Android Development] Julianmgn:
somebody posted this a while back, think it will work to remove the paint

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=8082371&postcount=47
[Vibrant Android Development] siirial:
Yeah, that should work. But if you have a chemical that eats paint and want to save buying a tool for one use, rock that.
[Vibrant Android Development] Julianmgn:
hmm...im not sure if i do, ill check but if not then ill just get this
[Vibrant Android Development] joshthewaster:
Just want to say that I have zero use for a ffc but if you guys get this working I'm installing one just because I can. Good luck and keep up the good work.
[Vibrant Android Development] PolishDude:
wow definitely interested in this and at 16 bucks its greatly priced, will be following this
[Vibrant Android Development] siirial:
Yeah, look for something like acetone, denatured alcohol, paint thinner. Any should work.

I suggest applying with a qtip. Don't want to apply too much at once and eat up the paint you want to keep
[Vibrant Android Development] cashless:
OP, can you post a pic of your phone with the modified hole for the FFC. I wanna do this as soon as it gets developed. just wanna make sure that the hardware would be in somewhat resalable condition afterwards.
[Vibrant Android Development] siirial:
The op has pics after the hardware mod
[Vibrant Android Development] smugle:
I Think this tread should be lock until OP has new news, people i just asking question that already have been answer. PLEASE READ THE TREAD!!!
[Vibrant Android Development] turtleoftime:
Some of the mods need to clean up this thread.
[Vibrant Android Development] memorito:
I'm not seeing lines... I am seeing moiréing... I think that usually has to do with a disparity in frame rate, refresh, and such things.
[Vibrant Android Development] backward0:
That would actually make alot of sense. can you post a pic to see if we are having the same problem mine is a few pages back.
[Vibrant Android Development] Droidicus:
Someone should make a sticky thread with all the how-to and why-for stuff. This thread is just going to get longer with all the noobs not finding answers to their questions.
[Vibrant Android Development] dmolition:
Or by people who keep complaining about how long this thread is, I think I have seen those more than anything.
[Vibrant Android Development] memorito:
I will put up some pics soon. I am trying to figure out why I can't adb push the yuv file into system/cameradata...

[Thanks mzsigler]

Attachments - Computer Screen shows HEAVY moiréing when taking a picture of the computer screen which is normal I think. The mismatch in projection/camera causes it. In the pics of my nice clean office you can see some moiré effect in the dark areas.

Say hi to my Monchichis!
[Vibrant Android Development] memorito:
Welp, I am on Bionix 1.7 and can't get this thing to work. Too tired to continue... Nyt.

EDIT: Ok, there is info about this on the Bionix Thread (which is ridiculously long - who allowed that?).

http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8551680&postcount=6393

Will update with relevant info once I digest it.

The multiple 0 size jpgs issue does not seem to be FFC related. But here is the error message I get when running mirror:

"Sorry!

An error occurred while trying to open the front facing camera. The camera preview could not be started. Please try again and contact info@codeiv.com for support if the problem persists. The program will now close.

OK"

I am sure this has been asked before, but what about the camera software from Canada Bell Vibrant? The Bionix seems to be using the Captivate International one according to the thread.

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[Vibrant Android Development] charkey:
Interesting.. keep us updated with your findings.
[Vibrant Android Development] belial20xx:
So we will be able to take pictures and all with the ffc installed. It really should have been there from th start along with a flash. It would be great to figure out how to ad the fascinate's flash. I am gonna look int to that.
[Vibrant Android Development] NikolaiT:
Heres the Camera.apk from the i9000 as well as the Camera.apk from Eugene373's Frankin-Twiz ROM. (See attachments)

(Thanks to "beards" from the i9k subforum!)
[Vibrant Android Development] codester3388:
I would actually pull the i9000 camera.apk from Eugene's Frankin-Twiz Final ROM as I think he had to modify it to work with our phone's. It should work with Bionix 1.7 as they are both built on the same JI6 build and correct me if I'm wrong.
[Vibrant Android Development] memorito:
I'd be glad to test, but have no idea how to pull things out of a rom. Just learned how to unyaff last night. :-) Thanks to mzsigler.

I gotta get to work soon so may not have a chance to get to it today.

EDIT: Just thought I would throw these up so you all can see how mine turned out.
[Vibrant Android Development] codester3388:
I took apart my phone again. It looks like the actual camera is mounted in the box and the box is held on by clips. They look really hard to unclip so I'm not going to try it. But it is very much alike the HD2 and Eris camera as they share the same one. The camera comes out of a socket inside the chrome box.
[Vibrant Android Development] memorito:
So you believe we can actually switch it out if we can handle those tiny arse clips?

mmmmm, I am intrigued...
[Vibrant Android Development] codester3388:
dunno if there is an actual socket in that box. the clips are so small you are going to need something REALLY thin and strong to undo them if its even possible. I work at a cell phone repair place and we don't even have anything like that here. The clips were a lot larger on an HD2 camera and were easily unclipped by a small flathead screwdriver.
[Vibrant Android Development] codester3388:
As for pulling the camera app out of the Rom just open it with a zip program and look for it. It could be in the /system/apps folder in the ROM.
[Vibrant Android Development] NikolaiT:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Samsung-Galaxy-...Accessories&hash=item3f03d37796#ht_500wt_1156

It seems someone is already selling them on ebay and by the look of the description, pretending to be siirial (or maybe siirial is already selling them individually on ebay already?)
[Vibrant Android Development] badaphooko01:
HaHa! that is him. I was the second one to purchase after he started sending out pms.
[Vibrant Android Development] Droidicus:
Seriously? NO ONE'S GONNA SAY IT? Dude, what up with the screen protector?...there. I said it. ;) j/k, kinda, well not really... ;)
[Vibrant Android Development] codester3388:
Wow... I think we opened up the hole a little too big. Haha. Is that foam around the camera?
[Vibrant Android Development] memorito:
Yeah, it's crap. But when I got this phone it already had two scratches on the screen.

Made me cautious. Plus I work in a shop... Dust, tools, metal... But you wouldn't know

about that. OHHHH BURN! No, it looks almost decent with the case on it. Now I gotta drill a hole in the case. Werp.
[Vibrant Android Development] dsellers2:
It is pretty tore up. :)
[Vibrant Android Development] memorito:
Nope, that is the hole size as it is in the molding. It isn't really that big.

The black area around the pin hole of the camera is a focusing ring according

to Cobra. He said he had to spin it to get a decent picture from the cam when

he did the mod. In any event it's the plastic around the camera.

It's all very tiny.
[Vibrant Android Development] memorito:
Thank you. Will get to testing. :o)
[Vibrant Android Development] Master™:
FFC works in Bionix 1.7 also..
[Vibrant Android Development] codester3388:
Just the camera portion or does video chat also work? From what I've read in 1.7 thread is its only the camera portion as the dev doesn't have a camera yet to test and mess with the software.
[Vibrant Android Development] memorito:
What app are you testing it with? I have tried Mirror and I get an error.
[Vibrant Android Development] memorito:
You folks that have "lines", did you take off the screen protector of the new cam before installing?
[Vibrant Android Development] backward0:
yep. hows your rear cam look?
[Vibrant Android Development] NikolaiT:
So you actually have to drill a hole through the casing? I thought that was a mistake in the image, hehe.
[Vibrant Android Development] memorito:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=8546534&postcount=787
[Vibrant Android Development] memorito:
Okie, I am dong this more professionally. :-) Thank you.

My phone running Bionix 1.7 does not seem to be accessing the FFC.

When I use Mirror for Samsung Galaxy S by Code IV I get this error:

"Sorry!

An error occurred while trying to open the front facing camera. The camera preview could not be started. Please try again and contact info@codeiv.com for support if the problem persists. The program will now close.

OK"

Here is the logcat.

http://pastebin.com/4yR49Cpi
[Vibrant Android Development] codester3388:
Have you tried the Froyo Rom yet? Many people have said it works in that. Might have to wait until the dev gets the camera for it to fully work.
[Vibrant Android Development] memorito:
Which Froyo rom would that be?
[Vibrant Android Development] darksandz93:
i'm assuming eugene's froyo rom in the OP
[Vibrant Android Development] codester3388:
Yep thats the one.
[Vibrant Android Development] cobra85ec:
You don't have to drill any hole... Just clean the paint from the inside
[Vibrant Android Development] NikolaiT:
Ah. this is what confused me: http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=392593&d=1283297759

Weird huh?
[Vibrant Android Development] scrizz:
well that pic was before we found out it was paint and tried removing it.

:D
[Vibrant Android Development] memorito:
Yeah, no drilling. I have to make a hole in my phone's snap-on case. Not the glass.
[Vibrant Android Development] memorito:
Lines on camera.

Ok, so I have been seeing lines on the camera... other than the moiréing effect.

This is how the lines progress from worse to better quality. This issue with the lines is really only visible when taking pictures of dark areas...

Viewfinder (Horrible red and blue lining)

Snap Preview (Less)

View in gallery (less yet)

View on computer (present but not really that bad)

Here are some VERY dark images from near my job...
[Vibrant Android Development] backward0:
more or less thats the problem i have been having... but i guess we already established that. i agree the pics don't look that bad when i look at them on the computer but looking through the viewfinder is almost enough to give an epileptic a seizure. Lets hope its software related. the only problem is i don't even know where to start.
[Vibrant Android Development] Esotericman:
This rear camera problem definitely warrants some side-by-side comparison. Is there anyone with access to both a Galaxy S and a Vibrant? We need examples from both cameras under same conditions, then Vibrant with GS camera, GS w/ Vibrant camera.

I'd bet the camera that shipped on the GS has no moire effect. But aside from moire, the example shots I've seen have been just plain bad! Like, really bad. Have a look at xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=416815&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1286736769

This is obviously shot with some other camera - Granted it's a macro shot, but it comes up crisp and vivid, and shows that beat up screen protector in all it's glory.

xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=416777&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1286731413

This one is from the new GS camera. Now, is it just me or is this just bad? It's unfocussed, grainy, and very flat.

I'm concerned that we may be getting knockoff replacement cameras.
[Vibrant Android Development] silox2000:
Does PAL or NTSC matter with a camera? Seems like there is something that needs to be changed to support this camera similar to that, being that it is normally inside of a phone that is in Europe/Asia. Just an idea.
[Vibrant Android Development] Saiboogu:
No, but there are typically deflicker algorithms involved that are based on the frequency of the local power grid - US is 60Hz and I think most of the other locations where the i9000 cam would be are 50Hz. That might be a contributing factor. Not sure where that would be set - in some sort of firmware on the chip, in the camera, in the drivers... Not sure, need a dev to check that.
[Vibrant Android Development] glitterballs:
Given that the same website is selling "OEM LCD & Digitizer" you might be right.
[Vibrant Android Development] memorito:
Yeah, that would contribute. Those issues are all usually related to mismatches in oscillations.
[Vibrant Android Development] memorito:
I took that with a Nikon D5000. I don't have a macro lens though, or it would have been a lot better.

I took that with the new rear camera. And, does the camera auto focus if I DON'T tap the focus spot? I may have not done that. I will try to get better pics with working focus. But, yeah they look crappy.

Your links are bad btw. They point at thumbnails.

There is NO WAY the phone's camera will ever look like a pic from a Nikon D5000...

However, the pics from the original camera were a lot better. As for a side-by-side, I am in NYC and I am sure that this would be the pace to get it done. Find me the people and I will find the time.
[Vibrant Android Development] silox2000:
I'd really be interested in seeing the results of someone with an i9000 putting one of these cams in their phone.
[Vibrant Android Development] Esotericman:
Yeah - the forum doesn't allow me to include pictures since I just joined recently... :(

Unfortunately, I can't help with any sort comparison in NY - I'm in MI. But this talk of correction algorithms seems promising.

I'm still a bit concerned that $16 might literally be too good to be true. I understand it is somewhat common for component factories to have phantom shifts churning out bargain product from sub-par components, ala Kingston, etc.... I wonder if there's a way to verify these parts (without xray microscopy).
[Vibrant Android Development] 2sh0rt:
i just got off the phone with robert from global and he 100% assured me that the camera's are OEM i9000 cameras. These cameras are NOT KNOCKOFFS and they do test extensively all items prior to shipping. If one turns out to be defective even after all the testing and it is NOT DUE TO IMPROPER INSTALLATION OR USER ERROR they will replace the unit.

Remember guys were are still "modding" our phones. This is going wayyyyy above and beyond the way it was manufactured no matter how similar to the i9000 it is. Fact is it did NOT pre-installed with this particular part so there are a lot of issues that may still arise.

Also he wanted me to let everyone know that one of their camera testing boards went down for a day last week so they lost time in getting them out to us. He did assure me that the people who ordered between the 28th and 30th have been shipped and should have their units this week. Some were even upgraded to 2day fedex home delivery to make sure they were received within the 12day alotted time. Then have replaced the broken testing board and are back on schedule.
[Vibrant Android Development] 2sh0rt:
Where did that GS camera pic come from. Only 4 sets of 2 have been shipped and confirmed delivery from Global as of 630 today? How do you know that's a pic from a Global camera?
[Vibrant Android Development] backward0:
Heres one from a modded phone the pic is out of focus but its definately of lower quality than the original cam.
[Vibrant Android Development] MichaelB91:
I emailed the guys who made tango about adding support for the ffc on the galaxy s and they got back to me today. They said that they are working on adding support for the galaxy s ffc and it well be included in their next release ;)
[Vibrant Android Development] 2sh0rt:
Is this from the front or rear camera? did you take the picture or did you get it from someone else?
[Vibrant Android Development] backward0:
Thats from MY modded rear cam.
[Vibrant Android Development] 2sh0rt:
Is that the cam you got from global?
[Vibrant Android Development] jamez243:
Does the 720p still work and is it also affected in quality?
[Vibrant Android Development] 2sh0rt:
have you called or emailed global to ask them about it?
[Vibrant Android Development] backward0:
I have not. I was waiting for a dev to get one to see if its a fixable problem.
[Vibrant Android Development] darksandz93:
Are you using the rear camera on stock? if not, try? If it's like that on stock then maybe it's not software...
[Vibrant Android Development] memorito:
Because I installed it. I got it from Cobra when he made his original order. He ordered early. :-)
[Vibrant Android Development] memorito:
Cobra has spoken to them too. He told me they were going to send him a beta soon.
[Vibrant Android Development] backward0:
i can try it.
[Vibrant Android Development] darksandz93:
Stock firmware i mean, just wanted to clear that up if anyone gets confused
[Vibrant Android Development] scrizz:
still doesn't mean it's nor software.

Until the devs get their hands on the cameras, we can't say for certain what is the issue.

:rolleyes: ;)
[Vibrant Android Development] memorito:
You probably shouldn't post other people's images either. You can see the number of the post in the thread at the top right of the post box. Copy that link and use that to refer people to what you are talking about. Will make it clearer and people can do a little background reading if they wish. From what I have heard of the source of the cameras, I think they are fine. We just need to figure out the differences between the phones.
[Vibrant Android Development] christeeezy:
This is good news. I'm more concerned with whether or not the FFC will work in video chat applications, than I am with the image quality (at least for now). As long as the video chat works, I'm willing to roll with the i9k cam until devs investigate what's going on with the image quality.
[Vibrant Android Development] Droidicus:
K, so I keep reading that the devs need to get their hands on these cameras. What's the eta on that? I'm a user, not a dev myself, but would like to ensure that whatever devs we are talking about get their cameras post haste!

Anything I can do to help make this happen? I'd be willing to sacrifice my camera (if it ever gets to me for that matter) to make sure this is a solid mod.
[Vibrant Android Development] backward0:
They started a new thread for development.
[Vibrant Android Development] memorito:
For everyone's sake, could you elaborate on what the tags are and what info is relevant to each.

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[Vibrant Android Development] Maxnike:
itsjusttim can you PM me as well, Im still kind of a noob to all this two. Thanks for the amazing work!!!
[Vibrant Android Development] 2sh0rt:
It depends on when they ordered... if they were ordered between the 28 and the 30 they will definately be delivered this week. if it was after that MAYBE the end of this week but most likely next week depending on where they live...
[Vibrant Android Development] SuperJMN:
Is it possible to install a LED flash to the Vibrant?
[Vibrant Android Development] cobra85ec:
I have more cam.. I'm can Sen 1 to the dev... thx for ur hard work.. loving my ffc and love showing it off..lol
[Vibrant Android Development] cobra85ec:
Gonna install bionix 1.8 as i get to work.. he add more ffc support
[Vibrant Android Development] memorito:
Ok, just so more people can be aware of what is up. I am going to try to put up some videos from the Rear cam. It clearly shows the lines issues. Have fun...

Ok, uploads no good...

Gonna compress the two videos one video I guess...

Ok, one video in 3gp format compressed to zip.

Also, the rear camera seems to have huge white balance issues.
[Vibrant Android Development] jamez243:
Even in the video? Dang that sucks.
[Vibrant Android Development] RaymondPJR:
Video taken with new RFC

Wow, that video looks horrendous! However, I have faith that the devs will solve these problems.:)
[Vibrant Android Development] memorito:
I have faith too. If anyone needs any testing or info or anything don't hesitate to ask.
[Vibrant Android Development] jamez243:
It looks like it's just a really ****ty camera phone like on the old mytouch or something... UGH,

I hope they are not bo bo knock off parts.
[Vibrant Android Development] memorito:
I got it open with an exacto blade. The little metal plates around the box are magnets. Under the plates is copper spindle. Mags + Copper = AutoFocus motor

From the looks of it I would say a switch it is impossible. For human sized hands anyway.
[Vibrant Android Development] codester3388:
Yea that is totally different than the Eris/HD2 camera. Too bad... Thought that they could swap out with it attached to a socket of some sort. If it is not a software issue then I might just cover my hole back up since I use the rear camera all the time.
[Vibrant Android Development] RaymondPJR:
FFC

Don't be so hasty! Maybe put the old cam back in for now but wait until the devs solve the problem then just pop it back in:D
[Vibrant Android Development] 2sh0rt:
They are definately not "bo bo knock offs". I just got my tracking number for my cam and it will be here thursday.
[Vibrant Android Development] theclarkman:
This is a great idea! wish they wouldn't of taken the camera out.. t-mobile.. I'm has anyone found a supplier that sells the i9000 camera? is there away to use the existing camera and just mod it?

I would love to experiment:D with taking a 2nd vibrant screen and making screens on both sides.
[Vibrant Android Development] Freedomcaller:
dang when did you order? i ordered almost 2 weeks ago and i never got a tracking #...