yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[EVO 4G General] joackie27:
Care to explain why you're back to CM6 after all the ugly and offensive things you've said about it?

Edit: Obviously the answer to the question is because you don't know a ton about CM6 when you've posted your original post. Coz if you do, you wouldn't be saying those. Did you just slapped yourself in the face and called yourself an idiot?
[EVO 4G General] jasonziter:
If I offended people that are so great they have pretty thin skin.....like oh.....yourself man....I have posted time and tome again that was not my intention so f#%k off dude. Keep suckin em off and they will see right through your own BS. Just high tail it out of here man. Go "contribute" your highly. Valued opinion elsewhere. You are a troller and a flamer of the highest type. Its obvious.

Nothing toast said conveyed anything like what you describe so exit stage left please.
[EVO 4G General] flexte:
I for one came to this thread to find some information not listen to tough TALK. It seems to many people came to criticize the OP. I was thinking of testing out the ROM but wanted to learn a little more about it before i spent time configuring the hell out of it. But after reading 10 pages i didn't learn much but that people can really run off at the mouth behind a computer screen.
[EVO 4G General] jasonziter:
Its unfortunate....but if you have the time....and again unfortunately it takes a bit....to leaf through the BS you'll find some good stuff in here save the jackhole above. I want people to read toasts comment and reply if they think he is actually directly expressing his dissapointment. I didn't take it that way and resonable folks wont either. It would be nice if you could ban people from a thread.
[EVO 4G General] nebenezer:
Did you even read his post?

Back on the meds man, seriously.

I know that after a few weeks you start feeling good and think you don't need them anymore but YOU DO.
[EVO 4G General] skantman69:
I think it is over rated. Just my opinion though and everyone has one.
[EVO 4G General] jasonziter:
Exactly. Toast is a smart dude...no doubt. And if he thinks my op was bashing cm6 ....well maybe I could have worded it better....or maybe since I've said a hundred times I like the rom he should get over himself....I doubt that's the case.

The intent was to spark intellectual and stimulating debate and little did I know I would have to bust so many people's asses for being jerks and often coming off looking like one...but hey....as I said before don't sling **** if you aren't able to take it back... it shows your lack of resonable debate ability. That being said ill shovel it back at ya if you think you're all tough behind the screen...lol....ill also engage in good debate which many of the shovelers have proven to be incapable of.
[EVO 4G General] jasonziter:
First off....quote something UGLY in all the posts I said about it. Find one you trolling flamer. I made observations man. And a lot of people reverberated those observations. I never trashed the rom. But....ill trash you.....go back to junior college and take an English class to help in the art of deciphering the English language. Another child in here.
[EVO 4G General] jasonziter:
One huuuge thing I noticed between sense Roms and cm6.....audio quality is wayyyyy higher with cm6 even without the eq. Pandora sounds terrible on high quality settings in comparison to cm6. That's a big objective difference that made me switch back.
[EVO 4G General] jasonziter:
Why the hell are you still here egomaniac? ???? He starts of by saying calm down. You're a waste man. Meds.....is that all you've got....go home to your empty bed and rub one out to your sweeeeet benchmark scores.
[EVO 4G General] joackie27:
Is this observation pretty? :D

"Do you think maybe....the rom is a crutch for the phone.

Just one man's humble opinion. Maybe further versions with the important features useable will kick butt. For now......Come on. What is the obsession??"
[EVO 4G General] jasonziter:
Another opinion or observation. That's not a trash......its an evo specific observation.....try again.....find a trash.....not an observation. If I'm not mistaken cyanogen writes roms for a lot of phones so its a valid observation / question in regards to the EVO. Try again dude.
[EVO 4G General] dglowe343:
Seriously? Did you just skip right over the first sentence of what toast said? Immature and ignorant users like you are the main reason this thread turned ugly. Not the only reason, but the main one. Time to grow up.
[EVO 4G General] jasonziter:
I'm not sure who you are supporting here.....me or the aggitator. Lol......if it is me ...SWEET
[EVO 4G General] nebenezer:
HAHAHAHA.. egomaniac, funny

Meds? No, that's not all I got..

You conveniently disregarded that in my post I pointed out that you were WRONG when you said "Nothing toast said conveyed anything like what you describe"

Again I ask.. Did you even read toast's post?

Are you back on your meds yet?
[EVO 4G General] joackie27:
Care to elaborate on why that observation is not trashing the rom? Your observation there is not even a question. English may not be my first language but to call that observation a question is just plain old being ignorant. A question simply ends with a question mark (?).
[EVO 4G General] jasonziter:
Anyone not agree that this dude is a flaming asshole. Ill say it like it is. Dude......you are a stain. Lets ask your mom how happy she is. Im sure you come from a broken family. Daddy didnt hug you enough and all of that. My mom is fine. Thanks for your heartfelt concern.I'm pretty damn successful and that has nothing to do with this thread. You're getting personal and most likely ...based on your posts.....you really should concentrate on the meds yourself.....in fact...you should up the dose in my professional opinion.
[EVO 4G General] jasonziter:
Keep trying. You'll get there........maybe. ;)
[EVO 4G General] dglowe343:
Wasn't trying to take sides. But the "your mom is overrated" comment after toast just posted "keep the rude comments to yourself" was ridiculous. Makes me wonder just how young some of the users here are. I mean, it wasn't even clever or funny. If everyone had just come in here and posted their input or ignored the thread if it bothered them, people actually looking to learn something about CM6 wouldn't have to dig through 20+ pages of playground insults. Cuz there is some good perspective info in this thread. Kind of a rant. Sorry.
[EVO 4G General] joackie27:
LOL! A question without a question mark (?). Ignorant fool! Who should go back to college now? :D

Edit: You can't even elaborate on why that observation is not trashing the rom. You just keeps on brushing my comments without even answering the questions. LOL!
[EVO 4G General] driguez:
U were saying? I love CM but 4G its a deal breaker for me, I'm sure it will be available sooner or later, til then sense it is for me.
[EVO 4G General] jasonziter:
You......its obvious. I'm done wasting time on tools. Post somthing of use would ya....you know....related to the original post for the thread.

Thanks for your excellent education though.
[EVO 4G General] jasonziter:
Nice objective post.....not too shabby for sense either. What ya usein'? ???
[EVO 4G General] nebenezer:
Actually no, my family is 100% intact and my Mom is a very happy person. My Dad hugged me plenty, but I don't call him Daddy, I call him Pop.

So, this professional opinion of yours.. would that be the opinion of a Physicians Assistant? From Naples?

Just curious..
[EVO 4G General] jasonziter:
Wow.....you can look up poster info. Maybe you're not such a fool. Buy ya ...so what if it is......come on down if that is what you are incinuating. Or just stfu and quit poking and proding.
[EVO 4G General] nebenezer:
insinuating
[EVO 4G General] jasonziter:
Did you see the input type

.........keypad on evolution...I have to try and keep up don't I?
[EVO 4G General] joackie27:
Isn't this part of the original post? You've asked for a post from you trashing the rom. I gave you this answer. You said it's not trashing the rom. I've asked how such observation is not trashing the rom and asked you to elaborate. Did you give me an answer? NO. You just brushed aside my question with witty comments. Either you can’t corroborate the statement below or you're just really an ignorant fool. :D
[EVO 4G General] RichTJ99:
Dialer one will solve that for you.
[EVO 4G General] jasonziter:
Okay...sorry if you think my response was a brush off.

Concede crutch for THE PHONE. The phone meaning the evolution. The crutch meaning not being able to implement features specific to the phone. Other phones may be more appropriate for cm6. But...if features specific to the evo are disabled isn't the rom a crutch/hindering the phone. Its again not a bash. If it was taken as such it was not my intention as I said.....I use it when the features like that aren't supported are not needed at the time.

Howz that???
[EVO 4G General] jasonziter:
In tact.......intact? ????? See my point.
[EVO 4G General] driguez:
Virus + kings kernel CFS #7
[EVO 4G General] nebenezer:
No, I must be stupid because I have no idea what you mean by this, or why you are asking me a question after telling me, so politely, to leave your illustrious thread.

So.. while you're at it (the business of actually responding to people instead of being vulgar and base) care to go 2 for 2 and acknowledge that

?
[EVO 4G General] jasonziter:
Firstly....I responded to you pointing out a typo / spelling error on my part with one you made in the very same post.

Secondly....I'm vulgar when people prompt it by flaming. If there is one thing I've been completely consistent with in this thread its responding when provoked because people can't be allowed to provoke without expecting an equally if not harsher response.

Make sense......I think you know it does.
[EVO 4G General] nebenezer:
And again, you completely disregard what is convenient for you to disregard..
[EVO 4G General] jasonziter:
Wanna talk about something subjective......I haven't tried virus because of the name. Piss poor....I know.
[EVO 4G General] jasonziter:
You lost me man. I can't get any more plain than that response. The disconnect here is obvious. Maybe something is lost in the text. I don't know.
[EVO 4G General] driguez:
Reason I'm using its bc its based on DC and since DC are M.I.A. this is the next best thing IMO. It's been solid so far.
[EVO 4G General] nebenezer:
Now that's just adorable.. your posts suddenly become civilized when you know you're in the wrong..
[EVO 4G General] jasonziter:
Wtf ......you are a damn hemmorhoid. Quit burning my ass.....go away man

...****

Adorable and civilized enough for ya......lololol

P.S. I am in no way in the wrong....ahhhhh ha ha ha ha ha....

Your sillyness is funny.....I take it all back....stay....this may be worthless but pointing out (perfectly I might add) your shortcomings is getting fun.
[EVO 4G General] jasonziter:
One positive thing that has reverberation in this thread is people talking about fresh and giving it props. So.....ill try it out based on some solid vs recommendations.
[EVO 4G General] cabbieBot:
methinks this thread is not going to be around too much longer
[EVO 4G General] jasonziter:
That's ok. I'm sick of most of the people on it anyhow....I wish the mods would just axe it.
[EVO 4G General] Learners Lisence:
me too :D

I think Ill just buy a Evo 4G and join your community :p

But honestly I agree with the title of this thread.

Everything is relative...beautiful - ugly, open -closed, sense-nonsense.... and we have to compromise and find out work arounds.

But popularity does not necessarily mean superiority.

I know the cyan clan is stronger and far outnumbers the rest but the minority will always be the voice to be reckoned with. Please do not monopolise over xda space and idea range.

I apologise for any idiotic or inflamatory remarks in this thread.

I thank xda forums for giving us options to chose from and space to vent ourselves.
[EVO 4G General] twilk73:
I hope it doest close. I dont follow to many threads but this one has been interesting. :)
[EVO 4G General] TJDuckett:
This is a good thread, the sheep in it just ****ed it up. I've stayed away from cm6 specifically bc of it not seeming complete. I love the idea of upgrading my Rom, but I want features added and not to feel like I'm trading one for another. It shouldn't be like that at all.

All spelling errors thanks to xt9 on my Evo!
[EVO 4G General] jasonziter:
Lolol.....

I was reading it over and it reminded me of the Michael savage show a little too much....
[EVO 4G General] jasonziter:
Totally agree......and I, as im sure you, appreciate all of the teams that design the roms.......YES CM PEOPLE THAT MEANS YOUR PEOPLE TOO......and they do it for frickin free which is pretty damn cool.
[EVO 4G General] jasonziter:
I have a question for anyone. I know it's been addressed in other threads.......anyone have a CONCISE link or post they can attach that addresses the VM issue without changing to gvm? ????
[EVO 4G General] engagedtosmile:
I'm sorry but the CM team are the only *true* developers out of the entire Android ROM cooking scene.

I don't mean any disrespect to all of those other ROM cookers, I use EViO myself. But copy pasting HTCs source and just adding your own tweaks does not make you a developer.

I believe this thread is highly disrespectful to the team that does the most work out of every ROM dev out there and when CM gets all those features working on CM6, you can bet your ass most of these cookers will use CM6 as the base of their own ROMs and cook up their own style of it.

I have seen it happen again and again.
[EVO 4G General] jasonziter:
Don't forget to wipe your chin off okay

...
[EVO 4G General] udjat:
Whatever.

Don't like cm6 don't use it. The feature available and the ones that aren't are clearly spelled out on the rom post.

The problem isn't the rom or its features. The problem resides between the monitor and chair.
[EVO 4G General] nebenezer:
You are pathetic
[EVO 4G General] Nnyan:
I actually liked CM6, it was very quick and responsive. There were a few things that I didn't like but those are just the way that I like to do things or personal choice not really about finding any fault in CM6.

EX: I liked the way the new keyboard looks but the placement of certain keys seemed awkward to me. Although the enhanced features like going back to the text screen were really nice. I really could not figure out how to change the wallpaper, this is something that should be intuitive to a noob not something you need to read (yep a noob here flame if you want).

So while I really did like it (I'm more of a minimalist) and it had great performance in the end it wasn't a good fit for me. But I did walk away with an overall positive impression from it.
[EVO 4G General] joackie27:
Your answer is not even related to what he said. Why don't you stay on topic and debate the guy on the merits of what he said? :D
[EVO 4G General] dglowe343:
Not flaming, I know you don't mean any disrespect, but I completely disagree. They are real developers and great ones at that.
[EVO 4G General] joackie27:
I mean no disrespect to you. But do you know how to develop code (C/C++, Java, Assembly, etc.)? engagetosmile is correct. The only real developer is the CM team. And the rest are just ROM cookers.
[EVO 4G General] jasonziter:
Its totally related. The point is this place was set up to discuss why other roms were more evo specific. Not to pay lip service to the cm team. Its obvious they are good that's not the debate. The debate is and always has been that cm6 is not tailored enough to several important features the evo has that ARE important to many of us. Again its not to say cm6 isn't good. What it IS to say is....maybe sense roms are more appropriate for the evo since cm6 is lacking features the sense roms have which are specific for the evo. Now.....if those aren't important to you.....the features.....then OKAY.....we get you love to pay lip service to cm......but that's NOT what this thread was intended to be.

Why can't you flamers get that. What function in your "highly evolved brains" is incapable of understanding what was just written. Either you are trolling, flaming, or just plain stupid. So go rub each other off in another thread about how much you love cm6. Most of us like it too but you have an obvious infatuation as you are incapable of any civil discourse / debate.

Its you...

..NEBENEZER.....who is pathetic. Its as obvious as your bull **** posts you fool. Now please show us just how stupid you truly are and post another Jack ass comment. Come on. Damn cyber bully.
[EVO 4G General] nebenezer:
"Don't forget to wipe your chin off.." mmkay

oh wait, nevermind, I forgot your mom takes care of that for you..
[EVO 4G General] jasonziter:
Thank-you for not reading my post and reposting the same thing I thought you would.....confirming my call out.... Please keep it up......its only helping my cause
[EVO 4G General] hapticchaos:
i love aosp and firmly believe cm6 is the greatest. cm6 isnt over rated, 4g is...
[EVO 4G General] joackie27:
Keep up the "good work." :D
[EVO 4G General] nebenezer:
huh?

Why would I read your drivel anyways?

I don't really mind so much being "called out" by a derelict.

And what exactly is your "cause"?
[EVO 4G General] jasonziter:
Wow.....you found a pic.......love it....lolol maybe ill look you up.....besides reporting you to the mods for this. Have a good one
[EVO 4G General] jasonziter:
Nice try on the edit man. Toast is aware and I'm sure he can see the edit in the thread. I'm pretty sure you two fall into the category of cyber bullying and well see how this plays out. Maybe ill get banned...maybe you will.

..one thing is for certain I asked him to delete the thread because of you two specifically......

I hope with his busy schedule he has time to read the whole thread and sees how you guys where the primary flamers and I bit your bait. I saved it all and if it goes further.....

Well see. Thing is. Before this forum I've had no inflammatory comments in xda. Checked you two out and you seem to be full of em. You seem to make a hobby to pester and cyber bully. Xda is a hobby for me......but for you its a way of life.
[EVO 4G General] dglowe343:
I understand what you guys are saying. I guess my definition of the word is different than yours. Either way I'm glad they're willing to share their work.
[EVO 4G General] 12MaNy:
IMO...the Snap kernels are overrated, not CM6.
[EVO 4G General] jasonziter:
Okay. Why? I just flashed 7.5 stable and its a bit quicker (appreciably ) than stock.

Aside from the speed and ease of customization, the sound on cm6 is wayyyyy better than the sense roms I've used evolutionx / fresh / freak / stock HTC. Pandora and slacker are streaming at a much higher quality (HQ settings in pandora set on for all roms tried) over 3g network.

Another thing appreciablly improved is frame rate avg 54 STD dev of 5-7 vs 46-48 on sense with kings. With all settings equal (set cpu 1.19, evo switch 429, atk task kill prior)

Can I notice it (appreciablly) when playing games or movies???.....not really.....but flash seems snappier as well.
[EVO 4G General] nebenezer:
Just sayin..
[EVO 4G General] dglowe343:
By far the biggest multi quote post I've seen. LOL
[EVO 4G General] alextrox69:
Cm6 is raw y'all trippin on mdma or something...sprit vvm works great and I blacklisted 9016 so it works flawlessly...and I can send nudes just fine to any phone
[EVO 4G General] jasonziter:
I'm not upset at all. I started this to get someone with some intelligence (lots of em in here) to post somthing objective to back up why EVERYONE loves cyanogen 6.0 for the evo. Maybe a little emotional because no one answers the damn questions. They just keep skirting the issue with....."you seem emotional.....you cant lead a horse to water" stuff.

Show off your love by posting some screenies. Also....Pao....thanks for the offer. I appreciate the thoughtful answer and screenies aren't that hard to post. I have several myself. I can't post em though. People say you can't post objective positive findings for your own argument.

-JZ
[EVO 4G General] Pao23:
Were your tests on the two done on fresh installs all other factors equal besides the ROM itself? I'd like to see them whether or not they are 'valid' for the argument due to them being yours.
[EVO 4G General] DraginMagik:
it comes down to what you need and/or expect from the device in you hand.

4G is great. but i live and work right along the coverage map. this means that at home i would get a decent signal...but who cares, I'm at home and never run less than 10MB on my wifi. at work i get crap 4G, but again, i never run less than 10MB on the wifi. (fyi...10MB on wifi is faster than 6MB on 4G...hence the slowest i run on wifi is faster than the best speeds I've recorded in my 4G area). 4G does make for a nice bridge between wifi's but since i don't live in a strong 4G area it has a significant negative impact on my battery life. that and i don't rely on the wifi tether option for my laptop so it's not a big deal. (at least so far).

FMradio...really? that's a fail point for you? wow. is there a specific reason that none of the alternative solutions work for you? like stream your radio station or get something like iHeartRadio or pandora or lastfm or......or..

oh...you say that isn't the point...then i suppose your point has to do with HTC including hardware in the EVO an not allowing you to use it is the issue? how about the FM Transmitter then? this isn't the first piece of equipment with such an 'easteregg'.

voicemail issues. is this still a current outstanding issue? i personally have not had to deal with it. perhaps because i use google voice...perhaps i'm just lucky.

IM160 limit issue. i've not had it. perhaps because i use handcent...perhaps i'm just lucky.

hdmi. who cares. it's a gimmick at this point.

as for me, why do i like CM6. forget all the smack talk and BS. I'm a FOSS supporter. plain and simple. i like CM6 for the same reason i prefer adw.launcher over the LauncherPRO.

choosing one over the other is not always a clearcut case of benchmarks and current featuresets. sometimes its about supporting what you believe in and what you hope will come from the community. in order to get that you need to engage and support the community.
[EVO 4G General] MSmith1:
My sprint VVM works fine on CM6. What's the problem?
[EVO 4G General] Pao23:
I'm installing CM6.0 now, the only thing I detested in nightlies and RC1 was his camera and gallery. If they have improved then there would be nothing else I could personally have complaints with. It was a solid (of course it is) base otherwise.
[EVO 4G General] sohr:
Having been on Sense since I got the Evo on launch day, I recently took the plunge into CM6, and all I can say is I am glad I did.

The cons are obvious-- no HDMI, no FM radio, no 4G. Of these, the only one I really ever would care is back is lack of 4G-- and had I lived in 4G area, likely would have been a deal breaker for me.

However, 4G is not coming here until later this year, and in the meantime, the pros of CM6 outweigh the cons. Actually, CM6 removed two of my biggest complaints with the EVO: the purplish shades of grey of the Novatec screen, and the flat sound through the headphone jack. The fact that is is very customizable and just plain flies is cool, too.
[EVO 4G General] goodelyfe:
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

in RE: "I started this to get someone with some intelligence (lots of em in here)"

thanks for your ***** ass subliminals/smartassedness

lol also, nobody keeps 'skirting' with " "you seem emotional.....you cant lead a horse to water" stuff." That was only said ONE time in response to your "dont get emotional" when infact you are the only one with your heart on ya sleeve.

GROW UP! **** Hype! Nobody is here to convince you of anything. We root our phones for a reason. Dont like it? Dont use it. Doesnt fit your profile? DONT USE IT... End of story.

Theres your cup of intelligence with a side of common sense logic :D
[EVO 4G General] goodelyfe:
^ #winning
[EVO 4G General] garyfunk:
Cyanogen 6.0. Is it way over rated?

The simple answer is No.