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[Galaxy S I9000 General] betoNL:
I know what you mean but exactly because the future of Symbian is uncertain I wouldn.t give up on android just yet

The GPS issue for instance: Indeed no proper external GPS support in Android, but, if you Buy one or two apps at the market such as GPS Provider and Bluetooth GPS Mouse, they will connect external BT gps to ANY navigation software even the ones that dont have the setting to search for external GPS threw phone's bluetooth ( you do have to set android to allow mock locations at Settings/Applications?Development).

So the disavantage becomes an advantage.

But yes I agree you should add apps. because you want to, not because you need to.

Users are buying apps at the market to perform functions that should be already present at the stock OS.

And Google is making a buck out every deal.

If a developer is selling 2 apps per day for €1.99 each. at the Market, it goes like this:

He makes 3,98EUR (and Google takes 1,20EUR+3.4% for their 'effort' -- leaving developer with an daily revenue of approx. 2.8EUR (even less after tax)).

So if a developer is not selling more than that, it means he is practically paying for every app he sells

Nevertheless, eventhough I am new with Android, I already sense its potencial and flexibility. For instance I can run any navigation software offline right now with the external BT gps.

The Beta Froyo2.2 is already a big improvement in comparison with the eclair 2.1 (even battery perform.) and if they solve the voice dialing over BT issue, I'll become a Android fanboy too, just without the childish and unobjective behaviour, if you know what I mean......;)

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[Galaxy S I9000 General] Mithent:
The Nokia 5800 XpressMusic is far from the first S60 device. It was the first S60 5th Edition device. S60 has been around since 2002, and Symbian OS has a legacy going back to the Psion PDAs which ran Symbian EPOC32 in 1997.

Nokia are relatively new to touchscreen devices, but have had years to hone the other phone functions on S60; it's the most popular smartphone OS worldwide. I'd say it's held back as a platform partly because its users don't know they have a smartphone (of course, the iPhone was the first phone to have "apps", or so many would think). Nokia are trying, belatedly, to fix that though. Its other problem is that it's beginning to lag behind hardware-wide nowadays.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Kilack:
Curious which of the two apps you mentioned you found better? Even though it looks like the GPS in the galaxy is well on its way to being fixed in the very latest beta firmwares I might have a play with an external one.

You are right in that Android isn't quite there yet and is a bit unpolished still etc. I think even google have been surprised at how fast android has exploded and are racing to meet the demands of the huge uptake of the OS. They have obviously set their priorities on what to focus on first, there is a massive list of things for them to improve on.

The great thing is that even though google still has plenty of work to do that the openess of android does allow developers to step in and fill the gaps in many cases.

I can point out plenty of flaws in android as i am sure many can but I think the positives far outweight the negatives and the positives are only going to keep increasing.. Definitely the OS to bet on I think though anything can happen of course and if something better comes along ill certainly move :).
[Galaxy S I9000 General] eyal123:
Hallo BetoNL - ik ben het ermee eens - I agree with you that many aspects of Android are yet not polished (yet) and there are some things left to be desired.

I was in the past a Nokia and Windows mobile user - then move onto the iPhone 3G and now I am a heavy iPhone 3GS user.

I bought my wife the Galaxy S and have been heavily playing with it for the past week.

My feelings about the phone and about Android are a mixed back - however I must say that in general the positive outweighs the negative.

What I don't like about Android is the lack of 'polish' compared to iPhone, copy/paste, transitions, many little things which feel more polished on the iPhone os.

The apple app store in my opinion trumps the google market.

I also find the games on the iphone to be a quantum leap above the android.

However, many things are really great and have surprised me - multitasking (not the crappy apple version), great browser compared to the crippled apple browser, phone use is great, mail is great (also on the iPhone), Bluetooth works great for me on my car kit and many more.

So overall - wow... Apple is going to get a run for its money... Android is getting there and the Samsung Galaxy S is an Amazing phone.

I am tomorrow getting the iphone 4 from work and I already had high doubts if it can really be a samsung galaxy s killer...

I'm curious.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] betoNL:
In fact I am using just Bluetooth mouse; it worked well with every nav software I tried.

I got information about GPS provider on this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=7951609#post7951608

But I read in the site of GPS provider that it doesnt support a couple of programs, and Sygic mobile map 10 is one of them;

so i stick with Bluetooth Gps mouse unlimited

They have a trial version for testing

Have fun
[Galaxy S I9000 General] betoNL:
Would somebody explain exactly what is this lagg problem all about?

I never experienced lagg, even with the eclaire2.1 full of 3rd party apps. Why it never happened to me? Never had to apply any speed fix or lag fix or any fix at all....

And I use lots of navigation software even the iGo motonav that's very heavy..

The only thing I do is make use of the memory booster app and some task killers and no background synch of course.

Oh yes, and my sgs is configured to use gsm only . APN section is blank

Never experienced lagg in any circumstance with the sgs....
[Galaxy S I9000 General] darkoroje:
You do have lag you are just not aware of it. A good way to see it is to open the "Manage applications" in Settings and see how long it takes to compute application sizes. Without lag fix, that will take up to a minute, depending on how many applications you have installed; with a lag fix it is almost instant.

The other area where lag manifests itself is in the Media Scanner that runs every time the phone starts up, or you unplug the phone from USB in mass storage mode. With a lag fix the media scanning process is an order of magnitude faster than without.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
i have over 120+ apps installed and when i go to Manage Apps it loads up right away showing all the apps in raw (with names and sizes), but yes it does take about 30sec ~ 60sec to show the customized icons.

and that is the wrong definition of LAG

when LAG is when applications doesn't respond

LAG is not when taking time to load data

just think of it as an internet connection, lag is defined when a command send doesn't get a response for a period of time.

running JH2
[Galaxy S I9000 General] darkoroje:
The reason it takes so long to display that information is because the I/O to \data\data directory is slow - much slower than on other phones. This also manifests itself when switching between applications, or when starting an application for the first time.

Just try using the one-click lag fix from the Android market and you will see a marked improvement in response times.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] betoNL:
I know what lag is and I am telling you, I never experienced lagging, specially when loading menus (computing application sizes at management, etc.)

All applications open fast and respond well.

Internet browser opens fast and loads amazingly fast ( Dolphin HD too).

Youtube widget responds and loads fast as well

I do check ram with memory booster often( I do it since the first day)

Never installed a lag/speed fix

It does take sometime to load after reboot( media sacnning,prapring SD etc.); but I think it's more than normal. It is a little pc after all...

I wont install any fix just becuse the device takes 30 seconds to load after booting..
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
i disabled media scanning, the phone boots up in about 10 sec from the Galaxy S logo screen to when the phone becomes usable

by the time fancy widget loads up with all the fancy weather and time, it means the phone is fully up, and that takes just under 10 sec

if i leave media scanner on, it takes about 30sec
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Kilack:
Yeah that is probably one of my main annoyances with android, the lack of quality software on it compared to the iphone especially in the games area.

The big developers seem to be pretty much keeping away from android still, no idea why and many games that are ported over from the ios to android are missing features or buggy.

My wife has an iphone 4, its a nice phone and I do see her playing lots of great games on it that I just can't get on mine.

I am sure it will change but I wonder why it is taking so long sometimes, I am sure they eventually won't be able to ignore the numbers of users on android, the market size will be too tempting to ignore.

That is my theory and I am sticking to it for now :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] betoNL:
Really guys (Eyal123 and Kilack)

let's not waste Thread space talking about the i-Phone.

The i-Phone is around 250 euros more expensive than the Galaxy s and almost 3 times more expensive than many other smartphones.

With that abusive price, it should be the killer of ALL phones; but it's not.

A serious smartphone needs an open source platform.

Needs serious multi-tasking capabilities

And the list goes on and on

Dont even get me started on the battery issue:

Is the battery on the iPhone still not user-replaceable?

The battery life of the iPhone has been criticized by several technology journalists as insufficient and less than Apple's claims.This is also reflected by a J. D. Power and Associates customer satisfaction survey.

I dont need an expensive toy with fancy games and fancy touch screen stuff and a cool design; i need an instrument.

Hey but that's me; if you are willing to buy the most expensive device of the market wich gives lots of room for doubt of being the best, that's your choice, your wallet...

I prefer to spend my time writing and hoping that Android will get better and better

Just get me a good and functional voice dialing (and over bluetooth) in it and i'm a happy man...

:cool:
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Kilack:
@betoNL

haha calm down mate. I was talking about android not the iphone really. I was saying that android is missing big developers and thats an android issue not an iphone issue.

I am open enough to spot the strengths and weaknesses in the android OS and also in other platforms. I don't really care about the iphone or ios but I do care that android isnt getting so many serious/big commercial developers. Great OS it might be etc but if you don't get great software to go on it as well it cripples it a little bit.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] betoNL:
Media scanning disabling huh?...me so much to learn.....me so little time....

24/7 here we go....maybe....hmmm dont think so..... or maybe???
[Galaxy S I9000 General] betoNL:
I calming down..... slowly..but surely ;)
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kevinkaran:
With 2.1 I was suffering with the random reboot issue, but it happened so infrequently that I ignored it. Now that I update with the update.zip it happens constantly when doing almost any amount of 3g activity.

So I have to go and get a Warranty repair...

Right now I am on the 2.2 rooted with S-OFF.

Does this sound reasonable?

1) Apply the stock 2.1

2) clockworkmod

3) s-on

4) apply ruu (I think this should put in stock recovery)

5) update.zip

6) confirm that it is still rebooting

7) Visit my friendly neighborhood verizon store.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kevinkaran:
Well, I called Verizon and they are sending me a refurb unit. The interesting thing was when he say, "Yea, we have been seeing this issue a lot since we started updating to 2.2" (Gee, wonderful :-/ ) so Im downgrading back to 2.1 and nandroid restoring.... hopefully the referb will be 2.1 so I can s-off... Anyone have any thoughts on whether I should even bother resetting and s-on-ing before I send this one back? I've seen mixed answers on the forums...
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ACD168:
I would rather be safe than sorry.
[EVO 4G Accessories] samrozzi:
this has probably been asked before, but would like to see what everyone is carrying their evo in and maybe a little review?

me, I have the seidio innocase active. I do really like it because its deff very durable and built well, the only downside to it is its a little large, like when I take off the case, the phone actually feels too small.

Im waiting for the otterbox one, but that could be forever.

whatelse is everyone carrying?
[EVO 4G Accessories] sintricate:
I'm using the Seidio Innocase Active Case as well (Saphire Blue). I just received it yesterday and I think it's pretty nice. My only complaint is that the power button is much harder to use than without it. Other than that, I'd recommend it to anyone without a case. I've only had it for one night though so we'll see...
[EVO 4G Accessories] neodorian:
Case Mate Barely There case in black

http://www.case-mate.com/HTC-EVO-4G-Cases/Case-Mate-HTC-EVO-4G-Barely-There-Cases.asp

Doesn't make the phone bulky but keeps the camera off the table and protects it from scratches and wear. Came with a screen protector as well.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Noxious Ninja:
I don't have a case, I just have the leather holster from Sprint. I almost always wear a belt, so it was a good solution for me. My only complaint is that it cost $30.
[EVO 4G Accessories] lamboh:
seidio's rugged ...if you dont want maximum protection, you can just use the innocase II, perfect everyday case.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Ska8erMush:
Seidio Innocase Active - Pearl White

its looks amazing and it works really well
[EVO 4G Accessories] Demonpossessed:
Casemate barely there.
[EVO 4G Accessories] teddyh2o:
Seidio Innocase Active Sage color
[EVO 4G Accessories] SouthernEvo:
Seidio Innocase surface here , I have the holster that fits this case . Mainly due to the fact I like using the EVO for music when Im at the gym working out . But at work its usually sitting on the desk
[EVO 4G Accessories] Glod:
case-mate barely there, however i notice it isn't protecting the edges around the screen and i have a dings on it as well. I am pretty much using it primarily to protect the camera, that's all the case is good for.
[EVO 4G Accessories] VW91N3:
Amzer Jelly.
[EVO 4G Accessories] NYCHitman1:
Seidio Innocase II Surface
[EVO 4G Accessories] cabrone1:
Body Glove snap on

http://www.bodyglovemobile.com/product/glove-snap-on-for-htc-evo-4g,200,19.htm
[EVO 4G Accessories] notown775:
siedio rugged. matter a fact me and my brother use em. I was using the body glove but biy was that a waste of monies.. those things are junk.

Sent from my Satan fone
[EVO 4G Accessories] cabrone1:
not sure what is junk about it.

maybe the other model i did not post in which people are having fall apart...
[EVO 4G Accessories] ausch30:
I've never seen that model before, looks pretty nice. I have the Otterbox now but until yesterday I was using the Body Glove from Sprint. I can tell you that after having that, it would take quite a lot to get me to buy one of their products again.
[EVO 4G Accessories] thajacka:
I'm using one of the ebay tpu cases, frosted one, before I had the sprint body glove and I liked it, but it broke easy, I like this 5 dollar tpu case, except for the power button, but I might go naked soon cause I ordered the kingston car mount and I think the honey moon period if over for me, I'll find a reason sooner or later too get it replaced and get a new one
[EVO 4G Accessories] cabrone1:
gotcha. i have had zero issue with mine. It is rather grippy in the pocket, like a silicone but offers a lot more (IMHO) protection.
[EVO 4G Accessories] matt4200:
I did use the siedo active and it was nice but I'm ocd and that gap bothered me. I just got the otterbox today and love it and I think I'll be sticking with it.
[EVO 4G Accessories] notown775:
sorry that's what I meant the BG from sprint.. I had two break on me.. volume rocker and a corner when I dropped it from waist high.

Sent from my Satan fone
[EVO 4G Accessories] xfusejc:
Case Mate's Barely There.
[EVO 4G Accessories] byggpoppa:
Otterbox commuter... no complaints at all.
[EVO 4G Accessories] dcfella:
Casemate barely there. It's great.
[EVO 4G Accessories] SoFLO.:
I'm using the Body Glove case I got from the Sprint store on launch day.
[EVO 4G Accessories] jimmysautoshop:
I started with the body glove case but didn't like the plastic feel to it. I gave it to my daughter and bought the silicone black case from sprint.

I've dropped my phone a dozen times, leave my phone in my tool cart while I'm working and not Evan a blemish on it. Works very well for me. Only complaint is it sticks in my pocket.

I didn't know the otter was out yet so I'm prolly going to look into that.

Also on screen protectors, I started with the invisishield from zagg but due to my greasy hands the material yellows pretty quick so I bought the HTC screenprotector and am impressed with its performance.

Evo Overclocked to 1196ghz

Rooted with bakedsnacked & kernal 3 - love this phone
[EVO 4G Accessories] stanglifemike:
I am using a black sillicone case from ebay. Was only $2.69 and I'll put it up against any other silicone case at any price. It is awesome!! Well cut, easy to push buttons, good feel, and excellent protection. Here they are if any one is interested. They have a few colors to choose from. I actually just ordered 5 more, 2 more black, 2 white, and 1 grey.

http://shop.ebay.com/special_elemen...&_odkw=&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3911.c0.m270.l1313

And a pic of mine installed:
[EVO 4G Accessories] gerald410:
otterbox commuter!
[EVO 4G Accessories] aph:
Same here. I wanted the best of the best so I got a separate Boxwave screen protector. So far so good. I'd rather have a hybrid feel than a rubbery one of the Case-Mate but it's not a deal breaker.
[EVO 4G Accessories] aph:
Only bad thing about silicone is it attracts dust & dirt.
[EVO 4G Accessories] jrdejavux:
otter box :D
[EVO 4G Accessories] cfrock:
Case-mate Tough Case.

And I couldn't be happier. 2 layers, silicone inner and hard plastic outer shell. Shell is also textured and provides really good grip. Fit is excellent.
[EVO 4G Accessories] stanglifemike:
This actually doesn't attract dust bad at all. I've used other silicone cases that were horrible. This one had really impressed me and if the price changed to $20 I would still buy one..

Swyped from my supercharged Evo
[EVO 4G Accessories] b0ricua:
Seidio Innocase II Surface - Black

Love this case, doesn't add too much bulk, yet protects it enough from any falls (I've already dropped it) and not a nick on the case or phone.
[EVO 4G Accessories] DarkPhoenix:
Not using a case currently which is why I dropped my phone and ended up with a cracked screen. I'm waiting for the Ballistics HC case to come out next month. I've had otterbox before for other phones and imho their quality is not as good as it once was. Plus they've changed their warranty.
[EVO 4G Accessories] mrcharlesiv:
I'm using the Seidio Innocase II Surface. It's a killer case.
[EVO 4G Accessories] JoNaH-SeVeN:
Sedio innocase Active case with outter shell pearl white... Amazon has it for like 25$ but worth every penny.... This case is epic. Just enough bulk 2 protect against all hits and slim enough still 2 fit in pocket... Get yourself 1! :D

°•€√oLucioΠ•°
[HD2 General] deemuzik:
HD2 will not flash roms anymore idk what i did wrong...idk if it because i tried using andriod or if its my computer..i really need some help...any help would b appreciated ...

ive removed the sim and sd card by the way
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
a bit more info there please. did you check spl version? (into bootloader, what does it say bnext to spl) are you getting an error? and if so what EXACTLY does it say?

What is the last thing you did?
[HD2 General] deemuzik:
i have not checked the spl version and im not getting any errors.

but when i try to flash a rom i get stuck on 0% percent...

the last thing i remember doing is running andriod..
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
i was hinting for you to check teh spl and tell me what it says :)
[HD2 General] deemuzik:
it say 2.08.0000
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
well theres your problem then. spl's that end .0000 are stock

Run hspl3 again, but this time in the dropdown change from 2.08.0000 to 2.08.hspl
[HD2 General] deemuzik:
thanks alot bro really appriciate your time..got it working
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
no worries. simple problem once you know what to look for.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kipe222:
Quick question, I have downloaded the froyo android for the hd2 and it runs really well. My sound and everything else runs fine. The problem i'm having is making phone calls. When i make a phone call, the person on the other end sounds really cluttered and scratchy and i can't make out anything they are saying. I'm posting this in hopes that someone can provide me with a solution to this problem. If there is something i need to do internally or something i need to download i'd appreciate any help. Thanks in advance.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] qipengart:
Robot voice calling. Upgrade the radio to 2.12 and switch to a new ROM.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kipe222:
thanks dude, i appreciate it. 1 last question, what rom do i need to run to make the change and how do i put it on the phone.
[HD2 General] Symondo:
ive been reading about on here and plucked up the courage to try a new ROM...

However from reading the guide its dawned on me that i may have 1 other snag.

My phone is locked on Orange UK

Would this stop me using a different ROM?
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
nope, sim lock and flashing are utterly unconnected.

The phone will still be locked to orange and you will have no problems flashing.
[HD2 General] Symondo:
I was hoping for that answer :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nalinbhatt:
Stucked on boot screen (the one that we usually see first with white letters). I did factory reset but I am still stucked on Galaxy S boot screen. I heard the default galaxy S sound but did not see the big 'S'. When I press Volume down + Home + Power , I just see a big triangle which says 'Downloading...do not turn off target'. This means that I can go into the download mode.

I installed odin3 and installed .512 PIT file as well as JH2 firmware from samsung-firmwares website. Inside the JH2 zip file I see a file with extension .tar (I think this goes in PDA section of ODIN).

After connecting my phone with my computer, I see 0:[COM6] in Odin. Plz guide me from hereon. Any help will be much appreciated.

NOTE: I was using gscript o change system fonts. Probably deleted system fonts. Then, I restored back to system and since then phone would not start. Well, it starts but I am stucked on this screen.

I am using Samsung galaxy S vibrant (Bell, canada [GT-I900M])
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bec07:
I will not help because you didn't ask the right question. Please change the title of your thread to something more intelligible or no one will bother.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nalinbhatt:
Sorry...I will change now
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bec07:
...

Try the same combo but with volume up. Why do you want to connect to kies?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nalinbhatt:
I am trying to connect to KIES because I think i can reflash using test mode.

Yes..I tried that? Did wipe/factory reset..then rebooted....got the same screen again.

Thanks for replying

EDIT: when I go to recovery menu (Volume up + home + power) and then connect with USB...I can see my device listed by using 'adb devices' command in the cmd prompt.