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[Droid Incredible General] Serinety:
Thought I would share my experiences with you guys to hopefully settle some stomachs.

I got my first incredible the day they were released. About a month after i got it, it started randomly rebooting and shutting off. It would run great for days, then have a fit of reboots. I used it like that for quite a while until root was released. I rooted it, then shortly after installed some of the leaked roms. I hoped that updating everything would help with the reboots.. nope.

Anyway, long story short. I called VZW and they sent me a replacement device. I sent back the first phone with S-off, rooted, radio updated, and running a cryogen mod.

As soon as I got the replacement phone, I re-flashed it with all the goodies. Last week I ended up bricking it because my kid ran by and pulled it off the USB cable during a flash of sky raider. It would boot into Hboot, but i nothing i did made it work right again. Anyway, I called that day and said "my phone doesnt turn on anymore" they sent me another replacement. I sent that phone back with s-off and radio 2.15 and not booting past the silver HTC screen.

I was wondering wtf, i thought for sure i would get a call or a letter or SOMETHING. i have a buddy that works at the VZW warehouse so I asked him. He said all they do is open the box, verify that the numbers on the phone match the numbers on the return order and move on. They get 1,000s of phones a day from warranty exchange. Nobody "checks them". Hes just a lowly worker but I think hes right.

I have had VZW for just over 10 years now, and have utilized their "exchange 3 times per year" service on almost every phone I have had. I have sent in phones that I broke the screens on, by saying "my phone doesn't work anymore". I have sent in phones i dropped in the water by saying "my phone doesn't work anymore".

The people in the warehouse who check the phones numbers have NO IDEA why you sent it in, or what the tech told you, or why they told you to take it back.

bottom line.. don't stress about it. and take advantage of VZW's service of letting you exchange your phone 3 times per year.

EDIT

Just wanted to add... They give you 10 days to send the phone back, that first incredible i sent back, i kept for over a month. They even posted an equipment charge to my account for not sending it back, but that took them a month. I just called 611 and said "oh gee wow.. i forgot to send that back" lady told me no problem and sent me out a new box and i mailed it back. 3 days later they credited my account the $500+ equipment charge. That was the phone with s-off, radio update, and running cryogen. Hardly stock lol. and honestly.. it was a intermittent reboot problem. what would they do anyway? turn it on and use it for a week to see when it shutdown? lol
[Droid Incredible General] DeeBG:
That 3x a year deal, is that with one of their insurance plans? I elected to for-go that when I bought my Incredible so I don't know what the deal will be if any one of my phones boink... just glad I don't have a kid to fudge things up anyway... although I do have a girlfriend that likes to seemingly randomly unplug my electronics because "our power bill is sooo high!". Yes, I know honey, it's called summer + A/C usage x.x
[Droid Incredible General] Serinety:
no, that is just the manufacture warranty. they will exchange it 3 times during the 1 year manufacturer warranty. on the 4th time, they will either send you a brand new phone in the box, or upgrade you to another phone. your choice
[Droid Incredible General] ACD168:
It's how I got my Incredible. Upgraded for free from D Eris. I got a big scratch on my screen somehow. Need a refurb soon. Haha.
[Droid Incredible General] daftlush:
I'm not sure if the masses should know any of this.
[Droid Incredible General] Yodes:
This is exactly how I got the Incredible from the Moto Droid. 3 times returned (the 3rd time not even for an unfixable problem *oopsie* ;)) and then they said they would send me an Incredible. I love VZW tech support :D
[Droid Incredible General] tcberg2010:
Hmmm, that Droid incredible hd sounds pretty cool lol when's it coming out again? Jk jk lol

Edit: this is good to know if something really does go bad with my phone. But I would never take advantage of it.
[Droid Incredible General] anothen:
MODS- please delete this thread to prevent little kids from being stupid and causing VZW to crack down on this. Thanks!
[Droid Incredible General] Zerotwistknife7:
agree...

/10char
[Droid Incredible General] cantare:
Yeah, I'm sure this all-important xda thread would be the first inkling VZW has ever had that some people game their replacement policy (sshhh!)

better shut it down RIGHT AWAY before the sky falls on us.:eek::eek::eek:
[Droid Incredible General] anothen:
I guess there always has to be someone to make a wise guy remark. You are correct about 'not being the first'. However, XDA may be the first that hundreds of thousands of people look at.
[Droid Incredible General] marcmarshall:
If it's so easy to return a phone 3x a year why bother with insurance? I'm paying $8 a month to Asurion.
[Droid Incredible General] ACD168:
Why would this thread need to be deleted. If Verizon does crack down good. People with legit problems with then hopefully be helped even better.
[Droid Incredible General] Aesir Rising:
1 in 4 people with 2 year contracts could make a full replacement purchase price claim and they'd still have a nice profit, assuming they had to pay full price MSRP for replacements. Wonder how much they'd make by using refurbs as replacements, rejecting claims, etc.

I may be in the wrong business.

Also, delete the thread. That is the best way to restrict information flow.
[Droid Incredible General] KidJoe:
Because warranty doesn't cover getting it wet, replacement of lost/stolen, cracked screen, break due to drop or abuse, etc.
[Droid Incredible General] thelunchboxosu:
Hey, my comment from yesterday got deleted! No fair, it doesn't count for my replies posted either...:mad:
[Droid Incredible General] Kipphh:
Agreed Its not about VZW finding out its about people abusing it.
[Droid Incredible General] mihneagabriel:
actually its not 3x a year its 3x in a period of thirty or sixty days.

that's how i got my dare from a Venus. The Venus always had something wrong and the tech himself told me well if they replace 3 in a month then you can get another phone.
[Droid Incredible General] cantare:
Just like there always has to be a Chicken Little or three, I guess. Would you rather I put a broomstick up my ass and found some piously earnest way to express my sincere contempt for those who run around asking for this thread deleted, that information suppressed, mods help us! etc, just to save us from ourselves? OK, then:

Attempting to mold community behavior by restricting the flow of information is a really dumb idea, especially on a hacker forum. And preserving a loophole that lets a knowledgeable few commit warranty fraud by concealing the means & opportunity from the other "hundreds of thousands of people" who read XDA is elitist, self-serving, and morally reprehensible all at once.

Fortunately for the scruple-challenged, my sense is that VZW is well aware of the potential, but just doesn't care--or at least is unwilling to invest in the kind of training and verification overhead that would allow them to examine each claim for legitimacy. So by all means: keep returning those bricked phones for an upgrade, but

do

stop hiding the Machiavellian ingenuity of your methods under a bushel--let it shine forth unto the ends of the earth! Free replacement phones for all!

Well, I suppose it's terribly old-fashioned to suggest that your conscience might trouble you if you went that route...:rolleyes: But ethics aside, if you lost the phone outright, or smashed it to tiny bits, you could still need that insurance. The VZW workers might be inattentive and uncaring, but I'm guessing even they might notice an empty box, or a phone that arrives in a sandwich bag with no one fragment larger than 30 mesh!
[General Questions and Answers] Danny1911:
Hi to all ! I have an HTC HD2 T-Mobile USA device, well I've like to find out from where I could get a Java Games Emulator for my HD2.. Here I explain more detailed about my problem:

I have a game "Rollercoaster 3D.jar" which is a Java File in my phone, I want to play it alot, I install it, the HD2 gives me the ability to run it, but the problem is that the game is compatible with PocketPCs that have Keypads, I mean are Non-Touchscreens, and I want to have an emulator that can emulate the game to be Compatible with Touchscreen Devices, becouse I can't control the options in the game, or to select something ! well.. if I activate my virtual keyboard.. I can press the "Down Arrow" to choose the language, but when the game starts, it also asks me If I want Sound, there is Yes & No Option which I can't activate them with my virtual keyboard.. so please who knows if there is a Java Games Emulator for Touchscreen Devices, plzz give me the link where to download !

PS: I've searched alot on Google and here on xda-developers and I found only for "Non-Touchscreen Devices" ! Thx !
[General Questions and Answers] oshizzle1991:
simply searching this forum would have given you your answer. there is already a thread on this on how to play flash games on your HD2's. please search next time!
[General Questions and Answers] oshizzle1991:
here i was nice enough to SEARCH (HINT HINT) for the thread on this. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=668733&highlight=flash+games
[General Questions and Answers] ReiKaz:
I also searching JAVA emulator for HTC HD2, because impossible to play with JBlend. Maybe there is JAVA emulator with virtual keypads?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Keyboards:
Hey guys. I'm pretty tech savy when it comes to computers and all, but for some reason all this "root", "radio", etc. is all mish mosh to me. I'm pretty sure I have my phone rooted (followed a tutorial). I just got the prompt for froyo from Verizon, and I read somewhere i shouldn't install it from Verizon if my phone was rooted. What I want is to just reset my phone without the root, and be able to install 2.2 just as if I never rooted my phone, because I know I'm going to screw something up that's going to end up costing me. So any help??
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Serinety:
you sound like me a few months ago :)

The OTA will update your OS to 2.2 and will update your radio along with alot of other things.

If you hold optical button and power at the same time (after the phone is off) it will boot to the Hboot screen. on the top of that screen you will see S-ON. This is the security toggle for the phone. I cant tell you what or why it does what it does. but it essentially makes its so you cant flash custom roms without rooting. Before you update your phone to the OTA, you want to google "unrevoked3" . download it, and run it. This will give you the Clock Work Recovery which will load instead of the phones built in recovery console. as soon as you do that, then you run "unrevoked forever" this will set the phone to S-OFF.

once you get S-OFF. Revert your phone back to stock by updating with a stock pb31gm.zip (you should be able to find that all over). this will make your phone stock again (by removing the root you did to it by running unrevoked3) but keep the S-oFF setting.

so by the end of the process you will be totally stock, no root, and have S-OFF. then boot up, install OTA, and then load the update with clock work recovery and you will be all set.

its all kinda confusing if you dont read along the forums. but once you get it, its pretty simple.

Another poster in another thread already addressed this. here it is in simplistic form

use google to look up anything you dont understand.

Assuming you have a truly stock Incredible (meaning you didn't force any third party roms or leaked radios), then you follow this order:

1. Unrevoked Flash/Recovery - Adds Clockwork Mod and Superuser permissions to your phone

2. Unrevoked Forever - Adds S-OFF functionality, which means that the HBOOT startup will no longer check for updates that are signed with HTC's super secret signature... Meaning you can flash anything to the phone.

3. Flash Original Stock Recovery - Removes the Clockwork Mod recovery console. Since you have S-OFF, you can return CWM to the phone whenever you damn well please. The original stock recovery is necessary for the OTA to commence, because it is developed to rely on the stock recovery console.

4. Wait for OTA

5. Upon receiving OTA, flash Clockwork Mod to the phone via HBOOT (using a PB31IMG.zip containing it)

6. Flash the root payload via Clockword Mod recovery console.

7. Go to bed and make love to your wife after beating on your chest in victory like tarzan.

8. Reboot phone, bask in Official Froyo coupled with Superuser permissions.

9. Download the busybox installer from the market and install busybox to the system.

10. Make love to your wife again.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Serinety:
I didnt read your post all the way before i responded... sorry

since you are rooted already, just get unrevoked forever to get S-off.

your rooted and you got the OTA , so that answers some questions for people right there, there has been much confusion about rooted phones will get the update. I guess you did :)

People say not to update because it will remove your root and not allow you to re-root. By flashing S-OFF you can re-root anytime you please because the phones security check is off.

The problem is, you need root to get S-off. If you flash first, with S-ON you wont be able to re-root to get S-off, make sense? lol. At this point in the game you can only get S-off while using 2.1. if you got to 2.2 with s-on your stuck for a while with no root.

If that doesnt matter to you, then dont worry about it
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clambert11:
If you only rooted your phone and did nothing else, you can safely apply the update. Doing so will remove root.

If you installed a custom recovery you will wanted to install the stock recovery before doing the upgrade.

If you plan on keeping root you will need to install unrevoked forever to enable security off (S-OFF) before starting the upgrade process.

Hope that helps a little anyway.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Keyboards:
I never did anything to the phone after the root. The only thing that changed on the phone was superuser was put on my app screen, and I don't even know what that does. I don't care for root that much anymore, it sounded cool, but I'm not the kind of person who knows how to use it to it's full potential. So all I have to do is hit install now on the 2.2 from Verizon and I should be good to go?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Serinety:
well you will have to run a stock pb31img.zip to remove the clockwork recovery , or the update will fail

lemme look around and see if i can find you a stock image. 1 sec

here it is

http://d01.megashares.com/index.php?d01=CHoQD3B

once you get it downloaded, you need to rename it to PB31IMG.zip, place it on the root of your SD card (meaning dump it on the sd card , not in a folder on the SD card)

hold optical button and power button until you get the hboot screen

with "bootloader" selected hit the power button to select it

the phone will look for the PB31IMG.zip file and load it. wait a few min and when it asks you to reboot, say yes. It may or may not ask you to update again , if it does, say yes, if not let it reboot the phone.

once that is done, run the OTA update you got and your all set.

doing this will retain your stock image, and remove root. THIS WILL WIPE YOUR PHONE. so if you have anything you wanna save do it before you proceed
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Keyboards:
Thank you. Will my Market history remain?? Meaning if I bought an app, I can just redownload it??
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Serinety:
yup, anything you bought is saved to your google account. you just open the market, hit menu, and then hit "downloaded" and its all there
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Keyboards:
That's great, thanks again. I'm going to give it a shot now.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Keyboards:
Ok I did it and it looks like it's going smooth! One thing I noticed is that after I formatted my card to FAT32, it said my capacity was only 200MB? Is this normal?

It's a 16GB card.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Serinety:
interesting... windows says its 200mb or the phone does? see what it says after the update. Maybe it created a 200mb partition?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Keyboards:
Phone also says 200MB. Phone is back to stock and ready to roll. Still haven't recieved a prompt for froyo yet, checked about phone, still running 2.1 update 1.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Serinety:
I think i read somewhere that when you don't accept the update it will wait like 20 min or so before it prompts you again. I don't know the exact time limit tho. you could do the *228 update just to make sure its registered right. i don't really know if that will help push the update or not.. but may as well do it.

as far as the card. after the update try formating it again. kinda of an odd issue. could try googling it
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Keyboards:
Still no prompt. Restarted, did *228, nothing. This card problem is also an issue now. It's showing only 200MB on Mac, PC, and the Incredible.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Serinety:
as far as not getting the prompt, you got me. I cant pretend to know how verizon does their business. Their website says if you ignore the update, it will continue to big you until you get it.

As far as the memory card goes. Thats not really a phone issue. My experience with formatting memory cards stops at the format. Never had it format it wrong. If it was happening to me, i would format it again with a format tool. I dont know your experience when it comes to troubleshooting problems like this. I would start by using multiple format tools on my PC, you said you have a mac, you can try formatting it with the mac. It seems like a simple fix, as it was reporting the right size prior to the format.

Did you format it in windows? did you just right click on it and hit "format" ? try using the disc management built into windows. It should show you the total size of the disc formatted or not. Its possible it somehow was formated as a 200MB partition. if that happened, then you have a 200MB logical partition, and the rest is unformatted and therefor un readable by anything other than a disc management type tool.

depending on your Operating System, your mileage will vary, but google how to open "disc management" for your OS. Stick the SD card in your card reader, then use the tools in disc management to format it to the correct size.

hope that helps.

Also, check your phone. settings > about phone > system information. Ensure you are running 2.1 update 1. and baseband 1.x. If you are, then its a waiting game. also, in the same screen click on "system update" and see if it has an update available. if not... you can always call verizon and play dumb. "ya i got the update, but i had to reboot my phone, when it booted back up i didnt have the update anymore!" see if maybe they can push it to you.

if all else fails you can load the RUU manually.
[Droid X General] rp1783:
Tried using the LCD density changer, and now I can't sign in to google or get past the login screen. how can I go back to the stock shipping rom.
[Droid X General] inzandity:
Windows Instructions:

Download RSD Lite (http://www.wikifilez.com/Root Files/MotoDroidX/RSDLite-4.7+patch.zip)

Install the RSDLite 4.7 program by double clicking on the program.

Move the pst_flash.ini file into the following folder --> Program Files/Motorola/RSDLite

Install the drivers that apply to your Operating System.

Unzip the SBF into a folder. (Download Above)

Open RSD Lite and find the UNZIPPED SBF

Put your Motorola Droid X into bootloader. (turn phone off and hold volume down and the camera button while pressing the power button)

Click start and sit back.

Credit goes to the following link http://rootzwiki.com/index.php/Smartphones/Motorola/Droid-X/Droid-X.html

The SBF file is kind of a pain to find. It is on the above link, but if that link is down, try the one below. It is somewhere on that web page as well.

http://www.koushikdutta.com/2010/08/droid-x-recovery.html
[Droid X General] dr154:
Go here to read on how to get back to restore back to factory default if u have problems.

http://rootzwiki.com/index.php/Smartphones/Motorola/Droid-X/Droid-X.html
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Ng LC:
Just thought of sharing my own mod to all XDA members

Features:

- added root permissions

- added Busybox

- Based on Stock Android 2.1 Singapore OTA

- Kernel is based on Flykernel-10a

- Default frequency is 576/352. Overclockable in the 176-749 range.

- HTC_CIME included

- Zipalign all .apk files to optimize RAM usage

- Task Killer tweaked

- HTC_IME (Mod) included

- WiFi-Tethering

- Dalvik2Cache included

- Fully odex'ed so you get more free space on /data

- A2SD [only available on MaxDroid 1.0 (A2SD Version) and MaxDroid 1.0 (Deodexed+A2SD Version)]

- Deodexed [only available on MaxDroid 1.0 (Deodexed+A2SD Version)]

Removed:

- Stocks + Widget

- Footprints + Widget

- Removed some images,ringtone,notifications sound and alarm sound

Known Bugs:

None (yet)

Languages:

- English (Singapore)

- English (Thailand)

- English (Indonesia)

- English (Vietnam)

- English (Malaysia)

- English (Philippines)

- English (Pakistan)

- Chinese

Optional Add-on:

Boot OC

(by erasmux)

boot @ 653/160: http://www.multiupload.com/G29ZS1SGL1

boot @ 672/160: http://www.multiupload.com/98O2TF9TJJ

boot @ 691/160: http://www.multiupload.com/MXRHIJ7R0A

boot @ 710/160: http://www.multiupload.com/PX53QBJW1W

FlyKernel-10a-BFS

- BFS version of 10a

- Whats is BFS? see Wikipedia and more details here

Download

Kernel source:

Flykernel-10a

Special Thanks:

erasmux for letting me using his Flykernel and dsixda for making such an awesome android kitchen software

Downloads:

MaxDroid 1.0: Download

MaxDroid 1.0 (A2SD Version): Download

MaxDroid 1.0 (Deodexed+A2SD Version): Download
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] dkelley:
oh, another 2.1 sense rom cooked up.

Well it's good to see that your release notes are clear and professional!

I'll try this out. Are you certain that you've thanked (and asked permission of) everyone who's work you used though? I'm certain you based your deodexed content off of an existing rom, it would just be too much work to do yourself again, but I think a thank you could maybe go out to that source as well. Edit: Maybe the kitchen supplies you with the stuff I'm asking about, so you probably already did thank the right person if that's true :)

cheers, looking forward to trying it out

edit: wait, where's the rom itself LoL. I must have missed something :-) Is this a vaporware rom? ;-)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] smiskkissen:
looks cool
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Ng LC:
By the way,this ROM was not deodexed and it was based on the unrooted stock android 2.1 Singapore OTA...oh about the ROM,I am uploading it right now,forgot to upload it just now...
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] dkelley:
cool, it was my first post of the day and I hadn't had any coffee yet by that time :)

So do you do this often or is this your first bit of rom cookery?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Ng LC:
Well,actually,this is my first time cooking a ROM...
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] mr.bang:
funny funny
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Ng LC:
MaxDroid 1.0 has been uploaded,go download now at first post!
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] trasig:
i dont want to be rude or something.. but whats the point to cook a rom using everyone else work and are identical to all 696969 2.1 that already exist? Waste of your time.. and waste of our time ;/ sorry to say!

Keep up the good? work