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[XPERIA X10 General] ronniecross:
i phoned o2 technical support the other day and asked when it will be available on X10. the simple one word answer was "dunno" so I proceeded to explain that X10 will be updating to android 2.1 (to which he said, "what's android?") and that it will need to go via. o2's quality control first for testing and to get the o2-uk approval, and also explained how o2-uk messed us around with the 020 update.

he then said: "you will need to speak to SE and find out when they are releasing it".

At this point I was like, facepalm!!!!!!! I just told you when they are releasing it, anytime between now and next week, but what I want to know is when O2 are releasing it, feckwod-dumbass-mofo-somethingsomethingdarkside!!!
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
@ronniecross.. You completely missed the point of my post.. I was saying that one we've got 2.1everyone will start moaning about not having 2.2..

Just like the legend users on the link I posted..
[XPERIA X10 General] tigger69:
"whats android?" why is he working at o2 ffs.
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
Well, considering Q4 starts in 12 days you wont have to wait long! :eek:
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
Not true. I have been moaning about 2.2 from the begining. :D It is the rest of you foo's who incorrectly think 2.1 is actually going to change something who will finally wake up and smell the coffee. :p
[XPERIA X10 General] anjo2:
I only need the 2.1 to have wpa2-enterprise, but yes, when 2.1 goes out, many people will ask for 2.2, when 2.2 goes out they will ask for 3.0, and so on...
[XPERIA X10 General] booyaga:
whitesheet from se says 2.1 today

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=786032
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
Damn dude, how long do you keep your phones? By the time the 2.2 comes to X10 I will be one my third device! :eek:
[XPERIA X10 General] loneLEE:
Uh huh. 2 months ago you claimed to wanna get rid of your X10. So why are you still here? -_-

We are satisfied with what we will be given, which, in this case, is 2.1, so grow up and quit whining.
[XPERIA X10 General] M3mPh1z:
Why after the 2.1 update are we going to have the Moxier Suite and Exchange ActiveSync®? whats the point of having both? or by Exchange ActiveSync® do they mean using Moxier?
[XPERIA X10 General] realunited123:
probably less than you. You still have your X1 don't you ? :rolleyes:
[XPERIA X10 General] zephyrix:
WPA2-enterprise already works on 1.6

http://android.modaco.com/content/s...-wpa2-eap-to-work-with-a-rooted-x10-mini-pro/

Even though it says it's for the mini, I've gotten it working on my phone for my university network and eduroam :)
[XPERIA X10 General] anjo2:
I have a Sony Ericsson T630, it has about 7 years, works great and the battery is great...

I have to try that, this week :) thnx
[XPERIA X10 General] kloud_:
I guess 2.1 wud do fine for the moment...!!

the 1.6 that was supplied wasn't as bad as it looked. atleast better than what i found on my brother's Motorola CLIQ XT"

but then that is what i feel.
[XPERIA X10 General] lawless_benji:
Although the ps3 update your referring to is out out the 21st which is a Tuesday.
[XPERIA X10 General] consolation:
Who is we kimosabe? WE are far from satisfied; you must be happy to eat SE corporate sh!t, an obsolete os rolled out 12 months too late.

Personally, I expect customer support in a timely and up to date manner.
[XPERIA X10 General] thunderpossuem:
customer support has been quite lovely with me. I managed to brick my phone. sent it of to S.E and they fixed it for free in a 'timely manner'. please buy your next phone based on it's current state rather than on perceived forthcoming updates. doing so will save yourself obliviously significant grief.
[XPERIA X10 General] consolation:
phone =! smart phone, a smart phone is a also a general purpose computing device where the ability to upgrade the OS is an expected feature. You would be surprised if you bought a laptop and found out that it has been locked to an obsolete OS. SE needs to get with the programme and deliver the minimum that customers expect.
[XPERIA X10 General] loneLEE:
We, are WE. If you aren't interested to be a part of 'we', then sell off the phone and quit whining like a girl.

Who the hell cares about the OS version?? If I really do, I'd have gotten a Nexus One instead. I bought Rachael because of her walkman and camera abilities. Nothing more. Of course, live wallpapers would be nice, but it's not as if I'd die without live wallpapers.

I bought it fully aware that I might get stuck with 1.6, since it's a cruel fact that corporate organizations might not even care about our requests. We've already paid for the phone. They've earned our money. that's it. If they choose to provide us updates, that's an added bonus.

If not, we suck thumb. Live with it, kiddo, this IS 'corporate ****', as you've said. Unless you write to Sony Ericsson to tell them you'd gladly pay for an update, I'm sure they'd roll it out exclusively for you.

Lol. I can imagine them sitting in their offices with your (okay... our) money in their hands, mocking at us. Watcha gonna do? Sue them?

If you are not happy with it, we'll show you the door. But ah, well, I guess a whiney kid like you might get other phones and will find faults in it and complain about it.

Next time, please do a research on the phone you are getting, so that you would whine less. It was already a fact that it was announced with 1.6, and even the launch of the phone was delayed for quite a few months. Don't tell me you will be surprised if the 2.1 update will be delayed. I won't be.
[XPERIA X10 General] loneLEE:
Smart phone = a phone that contains punctions which most normal phones don't have.

If you expect them to keep upgrading your OS for free, when they could have made use of the time to come up with better phones to con rich kids into buying it, then you are missing the point of their financial survival.

Are you seriously gonna think Sony Ericsson will want you, someone who paid over a thousand bucks for it, to live with the phone for 2 whole years and get a new one after that? Your thousand bucks can't feed them for 2 years, you know? it can only like, sustain maybe part of 1 employees' pay?

Well, Rachael delivered the minimum customers expect:

- can make phone calls

- can email

- can sms

- can shoot pictures and videos

- can play multimedia contents

- can surf net

- can play with facebook and twitter

learn to be content, kiddo. Some people can't even afford an X10, and here you are, not content with what you have.

Why the hell did you buy the phone when you know the phone OS is 'obsolete'? Don't tell me it's because you were 'promised' an upgrade? Awww... so you fell into to corporate **** lies... Poor you... Go run to mommy for a hug then... =(
[XPERIA X10 General] omgbbq:
wtf guys - stop spamming and harrasing other members...

Go xdaforums.com/private.php instead.
[XPERIA X10 General] becknise:
Mehn alot of people saying they don't need OS upgrade and are happy for the phone being able to do basic stuff. 1) get a basic phone for that; seriously why pay a huge amount for basics 2) when we bought the Sony x10 we paid for software updates aswell 3) ok pls explain anyone why is the x10 so slow even with 1ghz processor 4) why is it taking over 5 months just to develop an upgrade 5) HTC hero not even in the same league as x10 is enjoying 2.1 6) HTC desire came out the same time as X10, it already has 2.2.

This is not just about 2.1 or 2.2, the reason most people are complaining is bcos the phone is just ultra slow. I almost broke it 2 days ago cos I was gonna throw it against the wall. No phone has ever pissed me off like this. And the only reason I still have the mofo phone is cos I'm waiting for windows phone 7.
[XPERIA X10 General] xGary:
People have to stop complaining about people who want updates. We DID INDEED buy the phone expecting updates like all the smartphones out there.
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
the new update should be up and running this week (after the 22nd). Just finished with the 2.1 notifications/changes log for SE. Most of the time it's a few days after the due date for these logs, since its due the 20th, so it'll take a few days after to put it up. If it's up, then it means 2.1 is ready prior to it going up :)

For what I was told, SEA regions should get their updates this friday, the 24th. Other Generics may get it the same day or earlier.

Oh, and I'm not going to talk about the change logs, since everything has already been mentioned of what changes are coming.

One thing that's changed though, the Lock screen, it's more "Android" now. No more arch unlock screen T^T I actually liked it.
[XPERIA X10 General] se_dude:
Can you please comment on the speed of the system as its pretty much complete now? And can you give as an update on what has been backported from Froyo to Se's version of eclair.
[XPERIA X10 General] mnm372:
Thanks for the info... actively waiting for it.lol
[XPERIA X10 General] thunderpossuem:
sorry to be beating a dead horse. when you buy a computer, the manufacturer won't come around and install a new copy of windows for you on the house when it comes out ;) it's fine to want the update. i'm totally chuffed for the update. thing is, the due date for said update has not even passed yet. I would honestly be all for complaining about a lack of suppor and updates if there was a lack of support and updates. thing is, the situation is acctually quite different to that. so far, there have been several enhancements made through over the air updates that have significantly improved the performance of the phone and there is a promise of at least 2 more updates to come. during the use of my HTC hero, i got one update in the same amount of time :)

i'm not saying be content. content is not a good thing to be. i'm saying be reasonable. so far, they have kept all 'promises' that where made at launch and are on track to make good on the rest of them.
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
Very Ture! LOL. :D However I use it to charge my back up X10 battery (that is when I use my X10).
[XPERIA X10 General] -PiLoT-:
i dont get it. the end of the day WE bought the devices so we knew what we were buying, i knew my phone had 1.6 on it and tbh im fine it does everything i ask it to do. and im thrilled to be getting the hd recording as i wanted it for a while

you can moan and cry about them being slow if you want but its a bit silly considering they actually still on target. but im still being patient cause i know althought saying i have 16 million colours will be awesome. i really wont miss it if its not thier

and if you think its terrible SE not listening to our questions, think about how i feel when no new members read stickys i have posted
[XPERIA X10 General] deccangroove:
Doesn't the X10 have same Adreno 200 GPU as all other Snapdragon devices?? Why is SE taking so long to upgrage to 16M colours. The blue colour gradient in the default call screen should not exist is such a high end device
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
I feel your pain about those dang sticky's!

As for SE. Well if this problem were simply the X10 I think you would have a point. However, this is business as usual. Issues on the P900, P910, X1, and the X10. Someone at SE needs to sort this thing out.

Let's say that this engineering problem that has us all waiting over half a year, is exactly what outside engineers have been claiming all along; Stability issues. SE can't get this thing worked out quicker? There are dozens of device running 2.2 now. What is the X10's problem?

By the way 11 days to Q4 and counting! :eek:
[XPERIA X10 General] berbecverde:
True. But they do not lock down the computer, so if you want to update you have the possibility to do so.That is not our case of course. :p
[XPERIA X10 General] loneLEE:
whoa apple polisher alert!

Well, I presume this delousional kid can't shoot me back so he chose to ignore me, AS USUAL.

Shows how much a clown he is. Finds trouble, got bitten back, so runs away whimpering. -_-
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
You know, if you're so smart, why don't you apply to work at SE, so you can help them with their stability issues. We all know for a 100% fact that SE is the only company that makes phones that have issues. HTC never has. Samsung never has. Apple never, ever has. Palm never has. Nokia never has.

Only Sony Ericsson. They're the only company in existence that has ever released a product with bugs and/or issues.

Yet, you bought a phone from them. Tsk tsk.
[XPERIA X10 General] ddewbofh:
PWNAGE! :p
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
Wtf if you have problems with another user just ignore him, or pm him, and if that doesn't work, then report him. But please, this is a thread about 2.1. Not about two small kids spitting and hissing at each other
[XPERIA X10 General] loneLEE:
ignoring is not a solution to a problem. You face problems head on. Not run away from it.

And we are trying to help get rid of a parasite who keeps posting stuff to upset the rest. Not create trouble on purpose.
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
I agree. But it's so fun playing with the troll! I think the only thing more fun is playing with my X10 that has Android 1.6! ;)

But really, it's the weekend. There'll be no news updates for a day or two. (Monday is a National Holiday in Japan, so absolutely no news here.)
[XPERIA X10 General] loneLEE:
You forgot to add. 2 months of whining and claims that he would switch the X10 with an iPhone 4, just because it can have video calls (lol?)

2 months later, he's still stuck here whining.

For a so-called adult who gets to work outstation alot, he's sure too poor to get himself a 'better' phone.
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
Buddy, hate to break this to you, but this is a forum. Not some place to spread lessons to better your life. And as in most forums, this one has rules. Did you bother reading the 1st post in the thread?

I agree with what you say about fm1776. He has been on my ignore list quite a bit (he's not anymore)

But see, people come here to read news about 2.1. If you want to get rid of this 'parasite' then go ahead, but please not in this thread
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
HTC has what, five devices running 2.2? Maybe SE should have kept that partnership with HTC going a bit longer.

As for mistakenly trusting SE, you are absolutely right, never again.

POWNED! :eek:
[XPERIA X10 General] HunteronX:
Thanks for the info - I had a look at your other posts and images, and they look very reliable.

It's great to have someone like you, who is actually trying to be helpful, and not trying to cause petty arguments. :)
[XPERIA X10 General] HunteronX:
Yep, fm1776 just got owned.
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
It would be nice to get an 'unofficial official' change log if you know what I mean
[XPERIA X10 General] realunited123:
If i read correctly he already has an iPhone and has no issues with it! It is only SE that sold him a phone with bug. But the iPhone 4 has this amazing feature(which is a trend setter) in which you can add folder to the home screen! I hope android was as good as iOS 4 :( :rolleyes:
[XPERIA X10 General] Gavilaaar:
Hang on, hang on. I think you have provided misleading information.

Iphone 4 - Antenna problem. If that aint a bug or issue then I don't know what is.

Nokia - Most of Nokia's symbian phones have had thier fair share of problems. Lets take the N97 as I did own one. Once it had booted, it had 22mb of RAM left!!! Problem. I think so.
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
11 days left to go for Q4!!! LOL :eek:
[XPERIA X10 General] loneLEE:
well, even if we don't do anything about it, you'll still get his thrash posts.

Like you said, you ignored hom before. That's why he got smug, thinking he can get away when nobody could suppress him.

Don't tell me his 'X10 sucks' or 'Sony Ericsson sucks' posts are a bane to this topic =/

And read the post after yours. See how he always use those irritating expressions to taunt those who don't see eye-to-eye with him

Do you honestly think he has any intentions of avoiding troubles?
[XPERIA X10 General] loneLEE:
If that's the case then why he didn't get rid of the X10, like he claimed he would? And even if he did get rid of it, then why should he linger in this section?

Aren't these perfect proofs that he's deliberately trying to create trouble here then?
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
He probably is trying to cause trouble, but I thought we agreed not to feed the trolls....
[XPERIA X10 General] HunteronX:
All that I know of at the moment is:

-5 homescreens

-HTML 5 support (2.x browser)

-Live wallpapers

-New widgets

http://gallery.apnafundaz.com/admin...+_amp_+features-Widgets-UXP-speed-UI.png.html

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=770570&page=26

-720p video recording

-Bluetooth 2.1 support

-OpenGL ES 2.0 support, for some newer games

Maybe:

-New youtube and other google apps (e.g. Gmail)

In Q4:

- DLNA support

- New mediascape and timescape apps

Maybe:

-One -touch zoom integration

Other stuff that I don't know of, and this is the roadmap, allegedly:
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
Well, I meant from unknown13x, but thanks anyway
[XPERIA X10 General] npk21:
Hey friends.....one silly question!!

Now some people are saying that we wont have 16m colours, so wont those live wallpapers lag or show bad quality animation due to less colours on screen.

Waiting for your reply...thanks!!
[XPERIA X10 General] loneLEE:
To add on,

- apparently some changes in the phone menu, as shown by the available screenshots distributed recently (I'm a Singaporean, so reading Chinese is a cinch).

- a horizontal slide unlocking system

- more applications available
[XPERIA X10 General] Bialynia:
Can you stop spamming this thread please? And it is spelled "pwned".

So generic UK will be the first get the update from what I heard, and if leaving it at 65k colors improves performance I am fine with that.
[XPERIA X10 General] loneLEE:
Well does this happen when you watch videos in your phone?

For me, I have lots of dramas and movies in my phone.

What I notice is that my Smallville and Ultraman movie are abit affected, because both have scenes with intense lighting or black gradations.

Thus there are alot of obvious 'bands', as people call it here, and some pixelations. But so far no lags.

My guess is, maybe the fog live wallpapers might not look nice, but vector-related ones would look fine, like the grass one?
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
The number of colors in an image won't change what's displayed (unless, of course, under 65k), so there should be absolutely no effect on performance vs. if the phone had 16mil colors.

Also, animation should also not be affected, since the "problem" lies in the display's color output, not it's ability to run a programmed animation. You may or may not notice gradients (I certainly don't), but, nothing will be more pixelated...
[XPERIA X10 General] loneLEE:
Ummm... Sorry I missed this out... But you mean your X10 can't add folders to the desktop? 0.o
[XPERIA X10 General] realunited123:
<sarcasm>

But the iPhone 4 has this amazing feature(which is a trend setter) in which you can add folder to the home screen! I hope android was as good as iOS 4

</sarcasm>

Dunno why i "rolled my eyes" :confused:
[XPERIA X10 General] loneLEE:
... oh... -____-

ok
[XPERIA X10 General] dbappa:
Why do you think they might not be including it in next weeks update? The hardware is there, just a 1.6 limitation?
[XPERIA X10 General] loneLEE:
Because allegedly some official sony source admit to not have it implemented. Rumors are that it will be implemented on the 2 part of the 2.1 update, though
[XPERIA X10 General] gaolinde:
guys i heard a lot of rumours that SE had confirm that they won't give anymore update after 2.1

is this true?
[XPERIA X10 General] npk21:
............................................

Oh!! that means i can still have some hope for 16m colors...hope whatever you said is true!!!
[XPERIA X10 General] tuxo87:
16m colors or not, I hope this update will improve touchscreen responsiveness and general display response time. it feels really ****ty compared to other high end smartphones (such as HTC HD2, iPhone etc.)
[XPERIA X10 General] ddewbofh:
You don't happen to be stuck with an old version? I'm on 026 and the responsiveness is superb. It could also be a problem if you put on an additional screen protector since it ships with one already attached.
[XPERIA X10 General] tuxo87:
I'm on 026 too and I already detached that screen protector... won't change anything
[XPERIA X10 General] ddewbofh:
That sucks, hope it improves with the update.
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
Are you sure about that? The one I got from Rogers in Canada didn't look like it had one so I bought a screen protector
[XPERIA X10 General] realunited123:
I am . You won't notice it until you look for it. See the edges..
[XPERIA X10 General] tuxo87:
Yea tru. It is almost invisible :D

Anyway you should try using the iPhone, I'm sure you would notice the difference... Feels soooo smooth compared to the X10 :(

I really like my phone very much, but I have to say it's not the best compared to its rivals
[XPERIA X10 General] pbd3mon:
X10 screen protector

The one I got from Rogers in Canada did have a factory screen protector on it. I was not aware of this and ordered one from Zagg before getting my phone. Upon closer examination it turned out that in fact it did have one but its hard to see unless you really look for it. I read that the factory one is really hard to take off so I just left it on until it needs replacing.
[XPERIA X10 General] javagreen:
My store bought X10i had a factory applied screen protector. What IS odd though, is that, the box contained

one more

screen protector which they then applied on top of the one already in place.

I'm not complaining however, as it gets scratched rather easily :S
[XPERIA X10 General] kakekeke:
damn! never noticed that one...

I had the screen protector on the box, but ****ed up the installation of it so i tooked it away. Now after ~6month's of use i was like "Ou ****, the screen is all scratched up, why i didnt leave that screen protecter eavent that it was badly installed"...

But now, thanks to your message, i gived my screen bit closer look... And it has factory installed screen protector too \o/

You sir, just made my day :)

EDIT:

Its actualy kinda wierd... The phone "has" triple protected screen when you start to think about it... First there's the factory installed one, then theres "shipping protector" and then theres that one extra on the box... :)

:thumbsup for SE

EDIT2:

Tho, i would still prefer the unscratchable ceramic display of an c905 instead... :/
[XPERIA X10 General] javagreen:
^ No problemo ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] SXUsr:
I've always had 2 protectors on as I wasn't aware they already came with one and not had any issues with screen responsiveness.
[XPERIA X10 General] Gentimp:
Mine didn't come with a screen protector in the box. Only one on the screen which is scratched...
[XPERIA X10 General] fdomartineza:
a very noob question:

it's necessary to unroot to get the update to 2.1?

i rooted with Universal Androot, so i'm guessing there will be no difficult to get the update if unroot is requiered.
[XPERIA X10 General] Contrarian:
Or go out and spend a whole 6.5 euro on a leather case:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/SONY-ERICSSON-XPERIA-LEATHER-FLIP/dp/B003DWPD9U

A case is one of those must have items and should be the first thing you invest in. It not only protects the screen but the whole phone.

I still find it amazing that people think it's SE's responsibility to protect them against stupidity.
[XPERIA X10 General] Contrarian:
"it's necessary to unroot to get the update to 2.1?

i rooted with Universal Androot, so i'm guessing there will be no difficult to get the update if unroot is requiered."

No. Update will write straight over the top of it. Unless you somehow removed the update service/notifier you'll still receive a message informing you of an update.
[XPERIA X10 General] alankstiyo:
this is weird but i had the same "gift" a screen protector and scratched o.0
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
10 days to go! :D
[XPERIA X10 General] fdomartineza:
so, it is safe to update even my x10 is rooted?