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[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bob Denny:
Jonathan --

I finally went back and looked at this thread. I did root the phone with the Reflash from the #unrevokedtest IRC channel. In fact it went so smoothly, I "gave back" by spending several hours a night for 5 nights helping and encouraging others on IRC. Then I wrote up an article based on the things people had trouble with (see http://bit.ly/aBez98). One of the unrEVOked guys picked it up, made some suggestions, I edited it, and now it's linked in the /topic of the channel. Your suggestion pushed me over the edge.

I am using Auto Memory Manager, which allows you to tune the way the OS prunes tasks. With it set to "Mild" my Sense restarts are a thing of the past.

I'm pretty sure that somehow the HTC Sense "app" is actually getting pruned by the OS, causing it to need to start from scratch when exiting from whatever task needed that extra bit or memory to run. It's not a bug, it's a feature!!!!
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] luvit:
Thanks..I'm gonna try this.

I don't like spending hours tweaking task killers and the like.. but if I'm ever showing my phone to someone, I don't want the phone to appear buggy.

On the same token, I'd like to know when this feature is updated to prevent the symptom.. so I can dump the memory manager.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] luvit:
I tested the solution of using Auto Memory Manager configured to Mild for a couple weeks... I don't feel there was any improvement. Anyone else?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tamas413:
What is everyone's cell standby battery usage, percentage wise?

Mine is 41%, which seems a bit much.

My battery is down to about 30% in about 6 hours (most of which was in standby).

I'm trying new roms and kernels, so I'm trying to determine whether or not that's the problem.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrDSL:
Today mine is around 34% and I have seen it as high as 41%..After almost 13hrs still at around 65% battery but I've been light on my phone today.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tamas413:
I've been incredibly light on my phone today.

When in some of my classes, I have horrible/no service. I'm thinking that has a lot to do with it.

Are some ROMs or kernels more heavy on the battery when not in service than others?

With my stock rom and kernel, my battery didn't last long, but it was much better than this.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sprink0281:
Im usually about 41% also seen as high as 43% but only once....as long as your time without signal is low I don't think its that big of deal..but, if they is a way to lower it without goin into airplane mode would that help battery life?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tamas413:
Well if you guys' cell standby usage is as high as mine, then I guess that it isn't the problem.

I was just asking because it seems like I remember hearing that some phones increase Tx power when they don't have service in an attempt to get a signal.

Mine cycled through 1 bar, roaming and no service for about 50 minutes while in class today.

Maybe I'll just try different ROMs and kernels and find a combination that works for me.

~7 hours of use isn't cutting it since I was getting significantly more time with the stock ROM.

Thanks, guys.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nabbed:
A typical battery usage in standby with only 3G on (mobile data always on = off, gtalk = signed off) should be between 1-2%. In 6 hours of standby, you should not have lost more than 6-12% of battery charge. A full charge should be sufficient for about 3-4 days of standby.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tamas413:
That's more like what I'm looking for. What am I missing?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sprink0281:
He is not talking about the same thing we are.......he is talking about actual battery usage via battery icon, not the settings, about phone, battery, battery use screen.

I get approx the same battery use few % an hour with phone standby @ 43% of total battery use as long as I have a good signal and not using the phone

Two different things dont get confused.....
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tamas413:
JuiceDefender has done the trick. I'm at about 45% battery remaining 8 hours and 2 minutes after being unplugged with 35% of the damage attributed to cell standby.

The only caveat is that Gmail and Google Voice don't push instantly. Of course 15 minute intervals are enough for my email, and a simple text upon receipt by Google Voice lets me know exactly when I get a voicemail.

Thanks all for your responses.
[Droid X General] soccerdon1981:
So....I synced my hotmail account to my droid and every time I open up the account and attempt to type an email the freaking keyboard won't show up. What am I doing wrong? The keyboard shows up when I try to type an email on my yahoo & google accounts - no problem.

HELP! What's the problem?!
[Droid X General] GoogleisGod:
Try holding the menu button to pull it up, otherwise I have no ideas
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JustinMurphy:
For some reason my gps isn't working correctly, I can only occasionally get a solid gps lock when i'm moving around outside but the majority of the time it won't work and my cell signal the only form of location. Am I the only one that has this? I have never updated my radio so i'm wondering if that's the issue...

If it helps, I flashed from skyraider to cm6 rc3 and then upgraded to 6.0.1

Thanks,

Justin
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] seanmcd72:
edit - not sure if I tried GPS or not. I'll try it later tonight if a nightly comes out.
[HD2 General] alsxe10:
so my HD2 is bricked flashed a wrong rom with no response what so ever, cant even get it to boot loader, sent it back to HTC for repair, the phone has no physical or water damage, does anyone here have any experience with them? how did it end up? did it cost you anything?

thx for the advice in advance
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
I have no personal experience, but i can tell you from 8 months reading here that loads of people who flashed the wrong radio (its the radio that does the damage) have exchanged them, though most of those reports were people returning it to T Mo, not HTC. The phoen wont power on, so they cant see hspl.
[HD2 General] alsxe10:
I am not located in the states, thats why I have no warranty with TMO and have to go through HTC
[HD2 General] icandy75:
HTC is easy to deal with

I had a similar experience as you but I flashed a ROM with no issues then was trying different Android builds and when I found one that seemed stable. I made the mistake of going to bed and putting the phone on charge while in Android. Long story short I woke up the next morning to a dead phone. Master rest would make it vibrate for a second then nothing else. After a few tries It got to the point that it would do nothing at all. I called HTC told them the problem and they told me to ship them the phone at my expense. 7 calendar days later they sent me a new phone with no charge to me. Hope this helps and good luck.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] drexman8244:
I got tired of waiting for someone to include a rom with the stock google calander built in and launcherpro too so i made it myself....i even got android commander to work with the vibrant which helped ALOT

screen shots arent the correct colors due to that function on android commander not made for the vibrant.....hope you like it

http://www.mediafire.com/?rf9kf3408mcble8
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] kizer:
I don't see a screen shot and there have been a lot of people that have tried the stock calendar, but there is a white bar across the first week so a lot of decided not to use it.

I personally just use "Calendar Pad" from the market.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] drexman8244:
yeah the touchwiz is sooooooooooooo integrated into the phone it has its own extra files in the frame work, it took me an hour to dig and find that bad boy but i found it and edited to be clear..(wouldnt work if i deleted it). anyway my net connection is garbage so ill try to upload it somehow....but in the meantime here is the screen shot
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] s0niqu3:
Would you mind uploading/attaching just the file you edited to be clear to your original post?

When I searched, I thought it was editbox_background_focus_yellow.9 but changing that didn't work when I tried to modify it, so I'd love to take your file to drag-and-drop into my battery mod version of framework-res.apk

cheers,

=)

~ Jocelyn
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] drexman8244:
SURE

Sure ill upload the file BUT only cause you asked so nicely and even added a smiley face !!!!!!!!!!!!! it wouldnt let me upload it here for some reason but here is the link it says file not found in the pic but below is a download file button. good luck with your batt mod

http://www.mediafire.com/i/?lcjva8pr07i3yae
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] s0niqu3:
Awesome, thanks so much!

=)

~ Jocelyn
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] jonnybueno:
If you're gonna use my drawables in your mod, it would be nice if you credited me ;-)
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] drexman8244:
Sure ..........
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] Dougefresh91:
Second link is broken. I use the stock calendar but I'd like to get rid of that white bar if I can.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] junkdruggler:
bad form...

yeah see its stuff like that, that makes uploading our stuff not worth the time... A thank you is always appreciated, a shout out (name-drop) is appreciated more.. Most of all, donations are nice too...

unless you give credit where it is due, its called stealing... if you know what you are doing and can modify yourself, why not use your own work or credit the originator in your OP...
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] drexman8244:
DUDE IVE NEVER EVEN HEARD OF YOU i got the drawables from cyano/leo N1 frameworks....the rest is stock such as the timepicker file.....
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] drexman8244:
yeah sorry about that man..........here is one that should work....that bar aggrivated me something shocking so i spent a few hours finding out which stupid file was causing the problem....here it is....

http://www.mediafire.com/?lcjva8pr07i3yae
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] g1ftmfw:
SETTLE DOWN FELLAS... let's keep this thread full of info not flaming please...
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] drexman8244:
i agree and apologize
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kingkurry:
I read that Eugenes froyo ROM has the FM radio apk, and it actually produces static, which means the radio is actually being powered and sending back some sort of signal. Maybe the app is just tuning to the wrong stations(in asia they use even numbered bands). Maybe all we need to do is modify the apk to tune to odd numbered bands?

Porting libs did not seem to produce any results but i also read the "cross flashing" the kernal of the galaxy s and the vibrant could produce some results.

Any dev wanna get cracking on this?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] almyz125:
Hey idk if you've read through this yet but check it out

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=738318

just showing you since its related.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] j_r0dd:
In the FMRadio settings in the app you can select your region. The FM radio shows up in android.policy.jar, services.jar, framework.jar. I decompiled all 3 from the i9000 dump and the Vibrant and ran a diff on the smali files. The only difference I have found between the 2 the device names present which are just text strings. So everything is on my phone. When I press play or try scanning for stations the phone restarts before anything is sent to logcat :confused: I am stumped atm.

This is everything I have found that has to do with fmradio that is on my phone right now:

*/etc/asound.conf

*android.policy.jar, services.jar, framework.jar

*/lib/modules/Si4709_driver.ko

*/system/lib/libfmradio_jni.so

*/system/bin/si4709_test

*/system/app/FMRadio.apk (deodexed)

*uncommented fm radio module in the init.rc

*Secret code *#*#0368#*#*
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kingkurry:
Maybe its disabled in the actual Broadcomm chip? Maybe we would need to enable it via JTAG?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fearmonkey:
I don't think jtag is even necessary. The bcm4329 it set to download a firmware every time it is loaded, so it would be just a matter of finding the right firmware (currently in /system/etc/wifi) and/or nvram settings (.txt files in that same dir). THere are some interesting settings in there (i9000 version actually has comments), but nothing seems directly related to FMradio. In fact, most strings are the same between the vibrant and galaxy.

OR there is a setting in the 1st bootloader (boot.bin) that changes the address of the FMradio part.

Also, when I loaded eugene's froyo rom, I did NOT hear static. I didn't get the "cannot turn on fm radio" message, but nothing else happens either. Although there are no reboots during 'si4709_test -p up' like in stock vibrant.

Also, I've played with a few things in the kernel/si4709 driver. One doesn't seem to make any change, another causes the phone to reboot :(

// FM radio reset pin control
//s3c_gpio_slp_cfgpin(GPIO_FM_RST, S3C_GPIO_SLP_PREV);

Uncomment that in 'wm8994_aries.c'. Recompile. Flash zImage. No change.

Like I speculated in the THINKTANK thread, stock 4709/kernel expect the FM radio at ic2-8, 0x20 but there is no such device in the vibrant. There is an unclaimed device in i2c-12, but changing the si4709 code to point to that and I get reboots during an attempted scan.

No 9000 teardowns I've seen metion the si4709 so I can only assume that samsung uses the si4709 kernel module to interface with the bcm4329 via i2c.

I would like to try loading the 4329 fw from the gxs on the vibrant and see if that changes anything.

Other than this, most stuff seems the same in the code.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tribalb:
radiotime

have any of you considered just getting radiotime. its a program that has radio through streaming data. and if ur local stations have streaming audio it would show up in the local stations tab. i use it. its really ok. yest it uses the data portion of the phone. i understand you guys are trying to figure out to use the phones antenna for local stations. but in the meantime if interested. try google'in the program radiotime.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Viralblack:
Im personally less concerned with the receiver then the transmitter, and getting the receiver working is just a step towards that theoretical wonder
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kingkurry:
You cant transmit FM radio using an app. You need the actual radio working. imagine being in a car and listening to music over your amazing car speakers rather than headphones.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sevenvt:
You sir entirely miss the point.

No one wants to use data.they want the fm radio.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tribalb:
i knew what the point was. i was just giving a suggestion in the meanwhile if ppl wanted local radio on their phone. i dont need ur lame sense to tell me that. i understand this thread was to use the phones receiver to transmit without using data.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xplanowestx:
Rofl.... Grow up... Theres no need for these "mines bigger than yours" arguments.

XDA app via Samsung Vibrant
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tribalb:
that i know theres no need whos bigger deal arguement. i still dont need to hear crap from a rude person either.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Arr MiHardies:
The only rude one here so far has been you. If we wanted to stream, we already know there are tons of options. We don't wasn't streaming. We want fm radio.

Sent from my Vibrant using the XDA app.

Typos, incorrect words, gibberish, and other nonsense brought to you courtesy of Swype.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KerryG:
Personally I couldn't care less about receiving FM....but DAMN I would like FM transmitting since my car doesn't have an AUX jack for the stereo.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kingkurry:
shut up... he wasnt being rude at all. you were completely missing the point of this thread and subsequently pretending to know it all afterwards. What you need is a good *****slap.

Anyway, does anyone know the person who originally got the FM radio working on the Nexus One? Maybe he can give us a few pointers?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sevenvt:
Hello, I have been on the planet longer than you.

The point here is to find a. Whether the fm chip is present. B. Whether it can be activated and used. And c. How to apply that knowledge into a rom form or apk to avoid heavy data usage of streaming. The obvious radio streaming apps though having a similar application are not necessarily helpful in this thread.

Good day.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] g1ftmfw:
as long as people fight like this daily, I can be a bit more patient on 2.2.... keep up the entertainment... we almost need a standalone flaming thread where you can just jump in and put someone on blast... :-)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tribalb:
*yawn*
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grennis:
Man I love XDA. You just cannot buy entertainment like this. Tribalb you get the prize for forum dunce for today, but don't worry many are lined up to take your title.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tribalb:
Whatever. I was sooo done with this. Good luck to the dev that actually gets this done.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] g1ftmfw:
I find it hilarious you state you are done with this thread yet post in it twice in a

Hour... :-)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] demond1889:
I use the acer liquid radio. Apk file on my vibrant withno problems... found it here wen i google mytouch slide launcher app... :-)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] p()()pypants:
Nice but that has nothing to do with fm radio....

Really wish this was figured out for sure as even being possible or not...would live to listen to my phone right on my own car speakers, our hand my kid my phone with a movie on it and have him actually be able to hear it....

Pooped from my Samsung Vibrant using XDA app...

Dont mind the skidmarks...
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sevenvt:
Very useful in an fm discussion.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frankencat:
Guys, help me understand...why do w need an FM radio on a smart phone?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KerryG:
Instead of being a fat slob that sits around at his desk in his underwear waiting for mommy to fix another bowl of mac & cheese, maybe you are the kind of person that goes to the gym that has TV's all around it that broadcast on FM stations and you would like to actually hear the TV while you work out.

Or maybe instead of being an earth killing mongrel that tootles around town in a big SUV that you are a tree hugging hippy freak that rides their bike and wants to listen to the radio for news, or talk radio during their human powered commute.

I am sure there are other reasons as well. I'm not going to cry about not getting it, it wasn't a feature of the Vibrant when I bought it. If it gets to be working its a new feature to have when I want, but there are certainly compelling reasons to have it.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] javacody:
Well said, my tree hugging hippy freak friend! tree bark tea for everyone!
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] beren28:
I ride a motorcycle to work.

I use my phone to listen to the radio.

I pass through a low-reception data and streamign service fail 3/4 of the time.

With my old, non-smart phone I could listen to my favorite station all the way to work without having to pull over, pull out he phone and restart a stream.

For exercise I bicycle. Same story.

My "smart" phone now has *less* functionality in this area and I am forced to use inferior options. Yes, the phone is much better in many other areas, but it would be nice if I could use the radio as well.

If you don't need it, good for you. Some of us do.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kronos82:
For me I am interested in the transmitter part of all of this for my car, so I can listen to my music, then when my gps nav has instructions it pauses the music and speaks the instructions and then go about the business. yes I can buy one of those cigarette lighter powered devices that does this but then there is a cord, and if my phone can do this without paying $10 for a crappy transmitter, then hay you know what I will do the happy dance
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blackeyedbrian:
I'm fairly certain the key to this is in libandroid_runtime.so, just like with the N1.

If you compare the i9000 version to the vibrant you'll see a lot of fm radio information in there (fm_enable, fm_disable).

I just don't know what to do with this information yet :D
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] p()()pypants:
Lol, for an fm transmitter that actually works try about 40-50 dollars plus an 8 dollar cigarette lighter doubler if you only haver one in your car like I do so you can charge your phone at the same time....

Def a monetary reason to get this working

Pooped from my Samsung Vibrant using XDA app...

Dont mind the skidmarks...
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sevenvt:
Need is a strong word. Its a want. A want to not use steaming for music. Yes we could use it as an mp3 player... But that's far from the same. And since the original had fm it makes us hope that it is present and useable in our phones.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kingkurry:
So anyone wans get this working?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yincrash:
is it the same chipset? according the the nexus one thread, it relies on a special C library calls to the bluetooth chip (which i guess also houses the fm radio). if it's the same chipset, i could possibly take a look at the code that was committed to CM.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kingkurry:
Sweet :) that would get us started.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fearmonkey:
Should be the same - bcm432X. N1 might have bcm4325 but its probably the same or similar mechanism to get it working.

However, the afaict, the i9000 uses the si4709 chipset to supply the fm radio (hence the si4709_driver.ko module in the code). Hopefully it can route the signal to the same place thereby allowing the FMradio.apk to still work.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yincrash:
this is the committed code. it's apparently almost all on the ROM side.

http://github.com/CyanogenMod/andro...mmit/350dcf82f0c95d15ae286240d9792a6d90891f4e

they also have an FM radio using these calls.

http://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_packages_apps_FM#

this is the part that actually interfaces with the chip

http://github.com/CyanogenMod/andro...2a6d90891f4e/core/jni/android_hardware_fm.cpp
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] itsjusttim:
Keep up the god work guys...

_Tim

Eugenes 2.2 [JPM] + FFC Mod
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AgentFour20:
I have the JPM rom I dont see a radio apk .
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] In Absentia:
Eugene removed it because it doesn't work right now.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] j_r0dd:
we have what we need as far as frameworks go. decompile services.jar & frameworks.jar and have a peek. i believe this is an issue with the hardware or something is not activating the hardware. if this was a software issue the FMRadio.apk would just FC and logcat would have something useful. when you scan for stations or try to play a station you manually tune to, the phone reboots. nothing is logged anywhere i can find. just my 2 cents
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kingkurry:
Hm... does anybody think they could ask someone that works for samsung?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kingkurry:
do you think we could get eugene put sombionix to work on this?