yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] br0adband:
Ok, so when you say that one app "shuts down windows" does that mean that Android fires up and is in complete control of the device as though it had actually booted off it directly from ROM, or is it running as an application on top of Windows Mobile, that's where I get confused.

I saw a reference that some Android builds on the HD2 actually run faster or at least they benchmark higher than a real Android device like the Nexus One. I find that tough to believe but hey, if the HD2 can do it, awesome... :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jsmccabe78:
my understanding is it shuts windows down - it is not running as an app on top of windows, though uses the hardware to fire android. when android runs it is in control of the device. you cannot have windows and android running at the same time.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TX-Nick:
"But Maaaaaaa" (ala Eric Cartman, South Park)

Ok, so we can only run Android from the SD card. But this begs the question....WHY? What is it about the HD2 that precludes the ability to remove Winjunk altogether?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wilco:
To be able to run android directly from ROM, Android needs to use NAND.

AFAIK NAND is available, but noone knows how to use it directly.

Developpers are busy trying [thread], but until now without success, however signs are it is nearly completed.

As far as I understand, NAND preloads some drivers needed for Android. (like CLRCAD which is needed for sound)

Someone knows answer to folowing:

If NAND is possible/available, will booting Android be faster? Will the "Linux boot output" disappear or not.

Until now I think Android is booting (very) slow, partially due to the "Linux boot output" (scrolling lines)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] floepie:
Could there potentially be a way for a dev to modify default RGB levels of this device in order to relieve this phone of its blue-green hue with respect to true grays/whites? If not, I won't get my hopes up. Perhaps these settings can be accessed in some deep service menu?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Case_:
It can already be done with the calibration app for Froyo (with some limitations on a stock Froyo on SGS, though).

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=745248
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wasmachinator:
supercurio is experimenting with this in his next beta of the voodoo lag fix. check his twitter account for more of this;).
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] floepie:
What?! That guy is amazing. And, what a coincidence. I'm now on Twitter.
[Vibrant Accessories] ytj87:
** UPDATE 2, 9/10/10 **

Experiments by Saiboogu (here) show the Vibrant will not draw more than about 600ma (which corresponds to ~1100 in the file), regardless of a charger's output. Therefore, larger than the stock's 700mA output is pointless.

** WIDGET UPDATE **

There is a widget to read this data! Get it here. Using this, testing chargers is a breeze.

CABLE MODIFICATION

----------------------

A simple use of tin foil to short the middle two pins on the male end of a USB cable will kick the phone into high rate charge mode. What this does is create zero resistance across the data+ and data- USB pins, which emulates what the stock Samsung wall charger does. Of course this does not help if your charge source cannot supply enough current. Note that it is safe for use in any charger, since the tape insulates the tin from shorting the charger's data+ and data- pins. For this hack, cut a small, say 2mm wide, piece of tin foil and an ever so slightly larger piece of tape. Carefully tape over the data pins. This also has a side benefit of causing the phone to not pop up the various "connected to USB" messages in the status bar. Photos attached.

OP

----

There is a way to easily check the actual current being drawn by the phone. Using a file manager (like Astro), navigate to

/sys/class/power_supply/battery

and check the file

batt_chg_current

Regardless of whether the number is actual, it is at least relative. So a charger supplying more current should read higher. My car charger gives about 850 and I lose charge when navigating, plain and simple.

Please report if you have a car (and higher power wall too) charger that is supplying appreciably more current, and mention where you got it, with a link if possible. If we could generate a little rolling database here that would be excellent.

MORE INFO

------------

The file charging_source, in the same directory, indicates what type of charger the phone thinks it's connected to, per below.

0-- no charger

1-- low rate charger

2-- high rate charger

POST FORMAT

---------------

The second post contains test numbers. Please follow the format shown so we can have a decent database of results. Note basically all of these were tested before the tin foil hack. Thanks.

Sample...

Phone: Tmobile Vibrant

Cable: incl. original Samsung

Charger: incl. Original Samsung 700mA

Link: n/a

Batt_chg_current: 1102

Measured: 600ma
[Vibrant Accessories] ytj87:
Recommendations

-----------------

from sfsilicon...

CAR CHARGERS

1) http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.40470

2) http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.34040

3) $4.33 Car Charger for BlackBerry 9500/8900/8220

4) $2.59 Car Cigarette Powered 1000mA USB Adapter/Charger - Black (DC 12V)

WALL CHARGER

1) http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.27524

2) $4.66 10W USB Power Adapter for iPad/iPhone3G/3GS/4 - White (100~240V/US Plug)

2A OPTIONS (<$5.00)

Car - http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.25177

Wall (10W) - http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.42563

from SykesAT...

DO NOT GET

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10826&cs_id=1082602&p_id=3523&seq=1&format=2

TEST RESULTS

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Phone: Tmobile Vibrant

Cable: incl. original Samsung

Charger: incl. Original Samsung 700mA

Link: n/a

Batt_chg_current: 1102

Measured: 600ma

Phone: Tmobile Vibrant

Cable: incl. original Samsung

Charger: Laptop USB port

Link: n/a

Batt_chg_current: 814

Measured: 450ma

Phone: Tmobile Vibrant

Cable: incl. original Samsung

Charger: incl. Original Samsung 700mA

Link: n/a

Batt_chg_current: 1000

Measured: no

Samsung wall charger (OE) -1095-1105

Motorola wall charger (USB port) - 1100

T-Mobile MicroUSB charger with extra USB port ($10 on eBay) - 1105

Older USB port car charger (from RS I believe, universal model that accepted cables from RS for multiple phones) 885

Phone: t-mobile Vibrant

Cable: built-in

Charger: BlackBerry Model # PSM04R-050CHW1 (M) - 700 mA

Link: n/a

Batt_chg_current: 1095-1098

Measured: n/a

Phone: t-mobile Vibrant

Cable: OEM Samsung

Charger: t-mobile/HTC for MyTouch 3G Model # TC P310 - 1000 mA

Link: n/a

Batt_chg_current: 1097

Measured: n/a

Phone: t-mobile Vibrant

Cable: OEM Samsung

Charger: Apple iPhone 3GS charger Model # A1265 - 1000 mA

Link: n/a

Batt_chg_current: 768

Measured: n/a

Phone: t-mobile Vibrant

Cable: OEM Samsung

Charger: Apple iPod charger Model # A1205 - 1000 mA

Link: n/a

Batt_chg_current: 863

Measured: n/a

Phone: AT&T Captivate

Cable: OEM Samsung

Charger: OEM Samsung

Link: n/a

Batt_chg_current: 1092

Measured: n/a

Phone: AT&T Captivate

Cable: OEM Samsung; OEM Motorola

Charger: OEM Motorola (same style Female USB wall wart as Samsung - for Backflip and others)

Link: n/a

Batt_chg_current: 1092

Measured: n/a

Phone: AT&T Captivate

Cable: OEM Samsung

Charger: Automobile - Griffin 2 Port 1A per port

Link: n/a

Batt_chg_current: 1092 (Says AC Charging)

Measured: n/a

Phone: AT&T Captivate

Cable: OEM Samsung

Charger: Scosche 1A Micro Automible (low profile)

Link: n/a

Batt_chg_current: 1092 (Says AC Charging)

Measured: n/a
[Vibrant Accessories] sfsilicon:
There is data available on several threads it would bee good to consolidate. Also add a link to where the charger can be bought.

The 2amp blackberry charger from deal extreme looks promising. Just waiting to see the numbers. maybe a good 1 amp will be sufficient.
[Vibrant Accessories] TDO:
Cant' give you numbers, as the i9000 kernel is not compiled to write the file. But this charger http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.25177 charges the i9000 while used for navigation. (from 61% to 67% in 15 minutes)
[Vibrant Accessories] sfsilicon:
Yup, that's the one. One other vibrant owner has ordered it and will post his numbers when he gets it.

Wondering if this read should be complied in the i9000 area since it will interest all galaxy s users.
[Vibrant Accessories] Saiboogu:
Using sfsilicon's format, good idea --

Phone: Tmobile Vibrant

Cable: incl. original Samsung

Charger: incl. Original Samsung 700mA

Link: n/a

Batt_chg_current: 1102

Measured: 600ma

Phone: Tmobile Vibrant

Cable: incl. original Samsung

Charger: Laptop USB port

Link: n/a

Batt_chg_current: 814

Measured: 450ma

Hacked up a USB extension cord into my ammeter, going to check the actual output of any charger I can get my hands on. Above tests were with a 35% battery, so the phone should be in bulk charge mode and pulling all the current it feels the source is capable of delivering.

I have a cheap car charger (the USB port style) that I'll check later - I suspect it won't even deliver 450ma, but we'll see. Not going to test my better Moto car charger until I can find a MicroUSB extension, so I don't have to chop it up.
[Vibrant Accessories] sfsilicon:
Suggesting a standard format for charger reports.

Phone: Tmobile Vibrant

Cable: incl. original Samsung

Charger: incl. Original Samsung 700mA

Link: n/a

Batt_chg_current: 1000

Measured: no
[Vibrant Accessories] TDO:
A member here on xdadevelopers has developed a little widget, which displays the number from the file. So no need to do it manualy.

Here is the link to the widget: http://code.google.com/p/currentwidget/

And here is the thread; http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=723217
[Vibrant Accessories] sfsilicon:
Doesn't work on the vibrant. His widget pulls from a different file than batt_chg_current.
[Vibrant Accessories] kiapolo:
850.......
[Vibrant Accessories] heygrl:
Samsung wall charger (OE) -1095-1105

Motorola wall charger (USB port) - 1100

T-Mobile MicroUSB charger with extra USB port ($10 on eBay) - 1105

Older USB port car charger (from RS I believe, universal model that accepted cables from RS for multiple phones) 885
[Vibrant Accessories] sfsilicon:
Good stuff.thanks for the measurements. Looks like the batt_chg_current value is off by 1/2. Not what I wanted too hear, but makes more sense. Especially for usb charging.

How did you measure the current in line? Can you provide more info on the cable you used? Ty.
[Vibrant Accessories] Saiboogu:
No pics since I'm mobile right now, but it is petty simple... I had a usb extension cord. I striped off some insulation and cut the black wire. Connected my ammeter in line, and that's it. It's a cheap ammeter, I don't know how calibrated it is, but the 450 reading on USB means it is fairly close.
[Vibrant Accessories] ytj87:
Interesting numbers. I'm going to hook up an ammeter inline and do some testing too. Sad to see so far nothing is supplying more than ~1100, which in turn seems to be x2 actual current. This may mean there's a hardware limit for power into the device. Although some have reported being able to nav and maintain charge. In my case, I usually nav, use Goog listen over BT to my car radio, and get calls. Major power killer with my current generic 1A USB port car charger.

Another test would be to tape off the USB data lines to coax more power from a USB charger.
[Vibrant Accessories] tengtengvn:
Phone: t-mobile Vibrant

Cable: built-in

Charger: BlackBerry Model # PSM04R-050CHW1 (M) - 700 mA

Link: n/a

Batt_chg_current: 1095-1098

Measured: n/a

Phone: t-mobile Vibrant

Cable: OEM Samsung

Charger: t-mobile/HTC for MyTouch 3G Model # TC P310 - 1000 mA

Link: n/a

Batt_chg_current: 1097

Measured: n/a

Phone: t-mobile Vibrant

Cable: OEM Samsung

Charger: Apple iPhone 3GS charger Model # A1265 - 1000 mA

Link: n/a

Batt_chg_current: 768

Measured: n/a

Phone: t-mobile Vibrant

Cable: OEM Samsung

Charger: Apple iPod charger Model # A1205 - 1000 mA

Link: n/a

Batt_chg_current: 863

Measured: n/a
[Vibrant Accessories] sfsilicon:
From my testing isolated data pins means that the charger goes into USB mode. You can see this in the charging_source file in the same directory.

0 = no charger

1 = data mode / connected to a PC -> data pins insulated

2 = power supply mode -> data pins shorted < 200 Ohm

I've also built a cable with a 100 Ohm resistor shorting the data pins as per the USB wiki dedicated charging port. I've confirmed that the charging_source file shows 2.

I've been reading references that Apple chargers provide certain voltage levels on the data pins and they use this to recognize how much voltage to supply. I am not sure if this transfers to Android, but it might.

OP, could you please start posting some of this stuff and also collecting the data from these two threads. I and several other contributors to this thread are double posting a ton of stuff we already have gone over before. TY.

[Q] Working replacement charger (normal or car) for Galaxy S with more than 500mA? - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=757909

Total GPS/Car charging kit - $11.37! - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=749746
[Vibrant Accessories] sfsilicon:
Thanks, I'll buy a cheap cable of eBay and build one. I want to be able to put different resistors between the data pins as well as take measurements.

From my experiments here, I'd like to build a USB to micro cable w/ data pins shorted with a 100 Ohm resistor. Not sure if:

A) Shorting on the phone side is sufficient or

B) If the charger also needs to see a 100 Ohm resistance or

C) If the data lines still need to be connected between phone and charger and you just need to short with a <200 Ohm resistor.
[Vibrant Accessories] Saiboogu:
I would assume A, but can't say for sure - I'm curious to know too, be nice if we could up the output from some of these cheap chargers that the phone is only drawing 450ma from. I'm bookmarking your other thread, I'll take a peak at that when I get home.
[Vibrant Accessories] SykesAT:
great find. I started a thread in the dev section to see if someone could make the nexus widget work on our phones.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=8024437#post8024437

Edit: There is now a working widget for the Vibrant, check the above thread.
[Vibrant Accessories] alphadog00:
Here are my results i posted in the i9000 thread and some additional info

Phone: AT&T Captivate

Cable: OEM Samsung

Charger: OEM Samsung

Link: n/a

Batt_chg_current: 1092

Measured: n/a

Phone: AT&T Captivate

Cable: OEM Samsung; OEM Motorola

Charger: OEM Motorola (same style Female USB wall wart as Samsung - for Backflip and others)

Link: n/a

Batt_chg_current: 1092

Measured: n/a

Phone: AT&T Captivate

Cable: OEM Samsung

Charger: Automobile - Griffin 2 Port 1A per port

Link: n/a

Batt_chg_current: 1092 (Says AC Charging)

Measured: n/a

Phone: AT&T Captivate

Cable: OEM Samsung

Charger: Scosche 1A Micro Automible (low profile)

Link: n/a

Batt_chg_current: 1092 (Says AC Charging)

Measured: n/a

*To get the high automobile readings, i shorted the Data wires in my cable (no resistor needed); otherwise the phone thinks it is charging on USB and at USB rate.

*USB port on PC gives a reading around 800

*12" extension cable with no shielding on female end gives a reading of 600 regardless of AC, PC or Autocharger

Using the above Griffin auto charger, I was able to run GPS, Google Maps, and have a net increase in charged battery.

As for shorting wires; The USB wiki page says this "The Dedicated Charging Port shorts the D+ and D- pins with a resistance of at most 200Ω". Since there is no minimum listed, I assume you can just connect the wires - there will be some internal resistance due to the length of wire. I shorted mine near the USB end (not the micro end therefore out of the way of the phone) - so my resistance equals 3' of 24 gauge wire.
[Desire General] erto90:
As title says,in our desire we have the app "mail" that come also with widget ( thai i use) but i saw that isn't in push but refresh at max every 5 min.. is possible to set it on push maybe hacking the software?
[Desire General] foxmeister:
It can use push if you've set it to use Exchange ActiveSync.

Regards,

Dave
[Desire General] erto90:
What is?a software in market or what?please help me!
[Desire General] elburna:
Huh are you serious? Just add a mailaccount and it will ask which type u want to use... choose exchange and u can set "push" in the settings of the mailapp. Done.

Greets
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] digitalhater:
Hi there devs and chefs!

I was wondering if there is there any development for Windows Phone 7 for HD2?

I know there was a thread in this respect but haven't heard anything lately...

Would really love to see this happening!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] samsamuel:
how about looking through the windows phone 7 development and hacking section.

(short answer is yes, theres lots happening, and no, there wont be roms for a while yet)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pa49:
Try not to double post!
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] allted:
All the contact info on my phone is organized perfectly, while my gmail account turned into a bloody mess (I have a ton of e-mail addresses and a separate set of phone numbers).

Is there a way to sync all the info I have for each contact to gmail (preferably with the pictures)? I tried and export from my phone then import to gmail-didn't work.

or

Can I backup all the linking I did between my contacts and their facebooks (in case I start need to wipe my phone).
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] shree.cse:
Wanna know the most stable version with the appropriate Radio versions.

With my view, I found 2.07.50 is the best to run Android better with high data rates.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hoss_n2:
wft , all this threads in the development section and about 10% only related to the section , please post in android general forum
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] thesweeney:
With a post like that ^ perhaps it is you who has the baby's brain not the OP.

Sound familiar hoss?

With double standards like that you should join the police force :rolleyes:

To the OP...This should be posted in HD2 android general but for what its worth, I have found Mattc's build to all be very stable indeed.

I am now using the hyperdroid v1 and its superb but I do get the odd FC on acore.process every now and then.... not as stable as mattc for me.

Every build I have tested has been with the radio nd WM rom in my sig.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Ducter:
I understand answering the question...but should it be?? I dont think so. Advise the OP to post in the correct section, then answer all day long. Answering in this section of the forums is saying dont ask here but we will answer anyways. Shouldnt be an answer in the wrong section I think..

Its hard because of course people want to help others with something they have learned, but in the wrong section only promotes further questions.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hoss_n2:
mods must controle all this the , wrong threads are incresing faster than development , i really can't find what i wand in development forum with all this useless threads
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] thatruth132:
they try believe me they do but it i s so many new people just joining for androind on hd2 in a couple of weeks they will all disappear
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] qs2010:
best working for me is:

[BUILD][2.9.2010] [HtcClay's SuperHD2 V1.1]_[Kernel jongkorendijk #106]
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Diem:
See my sig. the magic combo.

Try it, you´ll be suprised :cool:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] veda_sticks:
i dont really think this can be answered properly as there are people having great success with such and such a build yet others have nothing but trouble with things.

as with windows mobile, its best just trying different builds and see which one works for you.

I use shrubcraft 1.5 which for me is for the most part stable. there are some annoying bugs, but im so fed up having to sift through tons of irrelevant posts to find usefull info im not changing it.

bugs i have are, PPP becomes buggy when on the move, usually when signal is lost or it has to reconnect like if yoiu go from hsdpa to 3g. it might just not be able to connect which airplane mode fixes (doesnt happen all the time, though i noticed there are a few spots on my bus route home that it does happen)

ive had a fe instances where coming out of stand bye has been problematic, the backline comes on but no screen (not a SOD as it will come back, just wake it up again)

I did have my screen go whitish today which has happened before. not complelty white, can still see everything, but the colour was gone, and it was all shades of white.

USB tether in some builds either doesnt work, or isnt reliable, same with wifi/

To sum up, i dont think there is a build that doesnt have something wrong with it. but there are atleast a few that are complelty usuable on a regular basis.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] eenbox:
I keep wondering how difficult is to click on "Search this forum" and type in "stable Android build on HD2" and maybe research little bit...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] shree.cse:
I dont understand why you guys just blame the beginners, Ofcourse you are advanced users! Just cant you just reply for a while in positive instead of writing tons of lines in negative opinion
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] shree.cse:
Atleast Can any one tell me, On which build USB tethering works properly?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] eenbox:
... click on "Search this forum" and type in "stable Android build on HD2" and maybe research little bit...

What part you did not understand of this help? Instead of giving you answer my friend I just told you how to search forums - since you said above you are beginner maybe you should start learning to read what is written...

Builds posted so far are very different on what people prefer the best - that's why what works for me it may not work for you... simple...

And to start "helping" you - I use as you can see in my signature FroyoStone Series V1 and I have been pleased since I installed AutoKiller because it really makes Android use my battery lot more sufficiently - overall less drain :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] shree.cse:
Your absolutely correct, Earlier I did all my search on this, And I used all the builds released till now right from July 28th froyostone's build. But may be my Radio fault or my mobile fault, No version is stable on my phone. Even for a single day constantly.

I prefer for internet usage.

The RMNet version is too slow for internet but it can helpful, and the PPP version on any build is faster but not stable.

Thats why I am asking you guys opinion.

Sorry I am irritating you people
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] eenbox:
You are not irritating me - it would be nice if you wrote little bit more detailed question stating all this. I have seen threads where people do recommend flashing radio into 2.10.xxxx since it works nice with some builds - however, I recommend that you search and get real detailed info on that matter - as I am not sure what build they referred to.

what radio rom you got?

PS Int he meantime read this as it may answer your question:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=732380
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] shree.cse:
I have used all the radio versions from 2.07.50 to 2.12.50.02

BUt I found some thing new in search, 2.12.50.20.

Is this really exist?