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[Vibrant Accessories] turbosix:
well, my phone will still charge (slowly) while watching avatar, which i would assume is a pretty high load on the cpu, using the 1amp charger i got from dealextreme.

fwiw, the one i have is a 1A "HTC" wall charger thats square and lights up HTC when charging, it ****s up my screen sensitivity so i wouldnt recommend it, but it was only like four dollars so i'll live with it.

link:

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.41025
[Vibrant Accessories] DKYang:
AC charger or car charger?
[Vibrant Accessories] hockeyrcks9901:
The charger does not dictate the amount of current given to the phone. The phone will only draw what it wants to. The charger can limit the maximum current but if the phone only asks for 700mA, a 2A charger will only provide the 700mA demanded by the phone.

I don't know what the max current our phones will use but having a larger charger will only help if the phone requests the larger current.

Typos and other gibberish courtesy of Swype
[Vibrant Accessories] sroach23:
ive been using these:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10311&cs_id=1031106&p_id=6767&seq=1&format=2

http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10303#1030307
[Vibrant Accessories] turbosix:
This is a pointless post and you know it...
[Vibrant Accessories] sfsilicon:
I'm not sure how stressful watching Avatar is from a current draw perspective. The torture test is to turn on 3G, Bluetooth, synch, GPS and run the Navigation app while driving. Some post indicate that only a true 2A charger will be able to do this w/o discharging the battery. 1A ones can only limit the discharge. Cheap ones empty quickly.

Could you check what your charge current file value is for your 1A DE charger? Make sure to use the original Samsung cable and cross check with the original Samsung charger and a USB port.

1) Use an application like ES File Manager or Astro Filemanager

2) /sys/class/power_supply/battery/batt_chg_current

Here are the 2 threads that I've found have a lot of charger info.

Vibrant: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=749746

Galaxy S: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=7933978
[Vibrant Accessories] turbosix:
well, i'll come back and update with samsung usb numbers as i wont have access to it for awhile.

i checked the file when using the HTC cable plugged into my work dell and it said 850-860 after checking a a dozen times

plugged into the wall charger now and its around 700-750

is that supposed to be reporting in mA?
[Vibrant Accessories] sfsilicon:
Yes, but I haven't heard that anyone has measured it. The numbers you are getting are consistent with what others have see. 800-900 for USB. The original Samsung 700mA charger is getting 900-1100.

If you have another Android phone try that one as well to see the differences (e.g. G1 ~300-400).
[Vibrant Accessories] turbosix:
fwiw, gf's oem nexus one wall charger (non usb)

1100-1200mA
[Vibrant Accessories] Threat Blvd:
I just bought this dual usb charger so I could charge my Vibrant and my wifes blackberry. It's 2Amp (1A per port) and works great, if a little pricey, but worth it imo. I shouldn't need to buy another charger for a long time.

Griffin PowerBlock Dual Universal Charger for MP3 Players and USB Devices

(can't post links yet, google it)

Sent from the future on my Samsung Vibrant
[XPERIA X2 General] seda777:
Hello!

I am owner SE Xperia X2 (R3AA035)

I managed to customise all keys necessary for me by editing of file

SonyEricsson_Xperia.Keyboard.Qwerty.English.kmap.txt

except arrow keys (up, down, right, left).

To me-would be desirable, that the given keys functioned

without preliminary double click of a key

[o] (change to input digits and characters)

Prompt - probably-whether it to make by editing of file

SonyEricsson_Xperia.Keyboard.Qwerty.English.kmap.txt

And if it is possible - that that it is necessary to register in it for this purpose.

Thanks.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AllGamer:
I'm writing this so that you don't get SCAMed as I've already seen in several topics on the Accessories forum.

I know many of you would rather by OEM (myself included), yet many of you are paying full price for an imitation.

Now, there is nothing wrong with the imitation batteries on ebay, they work just as good as the real ones.

However It's just sad to see people paying like 50 times more for something that can be bought cheaply

there are honest ebay sellers that do tell you it is not the real battery, there are the type of sellers you should buy from.

not the ones adverting FAKE ones as "Real" ones.

Here they are side by side, can you tell the difference?

It should be rather clear, ironically the FAKE one has a better build than the OEM ones. :p

Now look again at the pictures advertised on ebay or whatever place you should happen to buy them at

They are all the same as the fake one.

pictures taken by SGS i9000m
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] celeronix:
The 1st on the first picture and the 2nd on the second picture are the original batteries :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tehpriest:
A bit redundant if you don't tell us which and what differences to look for.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AllGamer:
is too early to tell, i'll let more people try on their own before giving out the answer, but there are plenty of hints already
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andrewluecke:
My battery is original, and looks like neither of these, yet is G7. It doesn't have a QR code for starters, but that's maybe because its a EB575152VU.

Everyone is happy with imitation batteries.. Until they overheat, melt, or have other problems. So, you need to decide if you want to take the risk. If you buy off ebay, just go 3rd party. If you want originals, go to an authorised service center or dealer.

You also say ALL fakes on eBay are that specific fake one? How can you prove this? Having sold apple equipment in the past, we found there were many different looking kinds of fakes. Many generally were similar (and that might hold for now), but it generally isn't true long-term..

Just remember, if you buy a fake, the person who made them know you are a sucker (and they aren't interested in making you happy, only making money). This means they just need it to seem plausible enough to be real (they can ship it with 1400mah, and barely anyone would notice). It can use the dodgiest cells on the planet, and as long as they take a while to die, it's ok too.

Either buy genuine from a trusted dealer, or go third party. It isn't always easy to identify counterfeits.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mickeko:
No. Left battery looks most like mine does, applies to both pictures. Seems like that doesn't necessarily mean it's a real battery though. :D

At closer inspection, my battery says EB575152VU and not EB575152vu as the left battery does and mine is MADE IN CHINA / FINISHED IN KOREA, they are otherwise identical.

I'm assuming Samsung didn't supply me with a fake battery for my phone. :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] celeronix:
No,no,no :) The left battery on the second picture is a 100% FAKE. Mine battery is exactly like the right one, but it doesn't have bar code :p
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tehpriest:
So is this real or fake ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kryston:
+1 i doubt they are made in japan like its written on the fake one, they are made in china for sure.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AllGamer:
i'm pretty sure that's a real one
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] celeronix:
Of course it's real. What do you expect? To buy a brand new phone (2-3 months only) with a fake battery. Even the chinese in eBay aren't so fast :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mickeko:
Well, then I got a FAKE supplied with my phone. They sure are sneaky, they even supply fake batteries to Samsung!!!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] celeronix:
Oh, come on, man, I doubt it ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tehpriest:
But apart from a little bit of printing above the G7 it is identical ???
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mickeko:
Yepp, you have a battery that looks exactly like mine does (barring the serial#/mfgdate obviously).

Assuming all batteries Samsung supplies with the phones are exactly the same, they're BOTH fake. :)

I would assume the difference on model# is because that particular battery is made and finished in China while our batteries are made in china and finished in Korea. There's really nothing that says the left one is fake.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tehpriest:
@ OP. OK now I am really confused (not difficult) Are both the one in my pic and the one I bought from eBay fake? They look identical apart from that little bit of print above the "G7"
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mickeko:
First picture, right battery says "made in japan/made in japon/made in corea" Something is fishy there. Besides, it doesn't look like mine does. :)

As for the second picture, the left battery looks pretty much identical to mine. I'm assuming the batteries are not swapped simply because of that.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AllGamer:
think about

what mickeko said

and celeronix said

;)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tehpriest:
A straight answer would be helpful please or I will assume your just flaming. The two you refer to seem to say both fake and real. So I respectfully ask again are both my and the eBay pictures of fake batteries?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andrewluecke:
The batteries supplied with your phone are real.

But, honestly, this discussion is a waste of time anyway, because fakes aren't always obvious.. The assumption that they always look the same is wrong
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Coboltmarine:
Yeah, the left battery is identical to mine.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ConceptVBS:
European versions get the G9. NA versions get the G7.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alovell83:
Both of the ones on the left are closer to mine. Mine have arrows on both sides indicating which direction will match with the pins, also mine has a BIG "G8" instead of a small one.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alovell83:
Also, @Allgamer, I read a post you made within the last 48hours regarding charging your battery linking to a thread that said there is a problem that the device doesn't report and charge the battery correctly. Wouldn't this be negated by using a separate charger and not charging in your phone. I'm pretty against the idea of running my battery down full cycle every time.

Besides ruining the useful life, which might easily be replaced with a cheap aftermarket one I also don't like the principle of filling landfills with dead li-on batteries that come from me abusing my battery.

Thanks for your thoughts. (note, I only read the first page of that thread, didn't have time for all 10 pages.)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tterencesy:
The left one is the original one!!!!!!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mickeko:
Nope. G7 is what I got with my phone, and unless Sweden magically switched continent, I'm still in Europe.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Fryo:
Both are real :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AllGamer:
yes on that topic there is a link to the DEV section with a solution on how to RESET the battery status of your phone, for it to show the battery properly.

but if you are using a stand alone wall charger, then you don't need to worry about the battery bug on the phone, as the stand alone wall charger will always stop when the battery is full

i always use the battery until it runs down to 10% when it does the pop up and warns you to recharge

batteries dies faster if you leave them pluged in charging non stop

that's why Android OS coded a software shutoff to prevent over charging

but the bad thing about this OS shutoff is that when your phone is bricked, it doesn't charge your batter (according to people that have tried)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alovell83:
good, thanks, that's what I figured.

I typically charge it at work, and never leave it plugged in because I don't want to overcharge. I'm even against "calibrating" the battery once a month because I don't have a need to know if I'm at 70% versus 30% (exaggerated numbers to make a point).

Didn't you say you have 3 batteries and leave one charging at home? I guess when you have 3 you don't have to worry about their useful lives as much since you will cycle through them 1/3 the time as another user who only has 1.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
So both the pictures of batteries I have posted are of real ones. Thank you.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kil:
The original has the little arrow pointing to the connector on both sides.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lillejord:
My Captivate has a G9 and a barcode. Therefore both of those are fake.

OP, you should have arranged the photos better. The first one in the first picture is the second one in the second picture and vice versa.

But the only real clue is that it says Japan/Japon/Corea. Unless all the English and French ones are made in Japan and all the Spanish ones are made in Korea...

There is also the possibility that the batteries are manufactured in different places and have different labels based on factory locations, yet are still official Samsung products.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AllGamer:
USA G7 G8 and G9 are the same batteries, just different numbers for different countries, but they are of the same size and shape and capacity volume

the first 2 picture was shown to illustrate what to look for on a fake batter vs. real one

there are also fake G9 and G8 batteries if you check ebay/amazon or any other places you like to shop at
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alovell83:
So, because your Captivate, which has changed many things in the process of getting the device released on the AT&T network, has a barcode the OP is wrong? OK, I have the Korean version, no barcode on either side, I bought it from a shop that Samsung owns (not partners with, it is their retail outlet, akin to an Apple Store selling an iPhone).

I think you are wrong.

Nearly all of this I just have to say "WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?" I think you are just seeing something written in Spanish that says "Corea" which is how they spell "Korea" in Spanish. However, this is the fake battery! Of course there is a discrepancy here, they saw a battery that listed this in Spanish and copied onto the label which is just laughable due to the inconsistency here.

FYI - My battery is made in Korea and it obviously says something different than these labels, however, if they added any information in Korean I guarantee it'd be saying "MADE IN KOREA" because that's what it happens to say on our batteries, so it'd be just one more discrepancy from the fake.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AllGamer:
what alovell83 is right

there are authentic G7 batteries without the bar code (from old productions)

Things to look out for are the inconsistencies in the print, also the quality of the sticker

another thing you can check is the build of the plastic casing, the rear ones are more durable and sealed well, the fake ones you can easily ply them open with the finger nails
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lillejord:
Do they not have sarcasm in Korea?

Look again. The fonts one the first one match the fonts on the fourth one. The fonts on the second one match the fonts on the third one.

What am I talking about? I have a feeling that most people know what I am talking about. In the first part you pretty much just repeated what I implied. As I stated: Japan is Japan in English, Japon is Japan in French, and Corea is Korea in Spanish. I don't think there was any confusion there. And yes, this is the indication that it would be the fake battery. Of course there is also the possibility that it is a legitimate typo (despite being a horrible one at that). I believe there were a number typos, or plain bad English, on the Vibrant. Secondly, my other point was that a number of people with legitimate batteries were describing features of both batteries being on theirs--Like the barcode or lack of a barcode.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andrewluecke:
But what you are saying is wrong. Samsung can change the print of the battery at any time and it may still be legal. Just because your battery doesn't match the photos (as mine doesn't), doesn't mean it isn't real.

There is no reliable way to reliably identify counterfeit batteries
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alovell83:
Sarcasm is just so easy to read on the interwebs...does that form of it work for you?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thmlwin:
Ohh, :confused:Mine is as same as the first one of all. Except mine is EB575152VU not ( vu ). I bought in germany G 7 battery and make in china too.:D

So the first photo are the real one:D
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AllGamer:
almost everything is made in china now in days, it's a miracle to find something not made in china

like when i first opened the phone and saw "made in Korea" i was like WOW!!!!!!! finally something made by another country not China
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PhoenixFx:
For me the most obvious difference is Samsung Logo; logo on the fake is compressed (not as tall as the real one). Manufactures are very strict on how they print their logo, therefore if you can notice even a slight discrepancy in a logo thats an obvious sign. Next indicator is Made in Japan phrase (though not as convincing as the logo).
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rdenis:
There goes 10 minutes of my life I will never get back. What a dumb ****ing thread this turned out to be when it actually could have been useful :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alovell83:
Korea is pretty big on domestically made items. Samsung recently has decreased it's percentage of phones made in Korea in order to compete globally, but they have pledged to make all their high-end phones in Korea for the middle to long term future. So, while the general public might get some Chinese feature phones from Samsung, XDA readers will be getting Korean goods from Samsung.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] on12uka:
Looking at the quality build betweent the two pictures, I would 100% say the one without the barcode is the genuine one.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brunes:
And when you buy an OEM battery will you be happy when it overheats, melts, or has other problems?

OEM batteries fry all the time, with just as much likelihood as 3rd party batteries. I just with these 3rd party ones did not confuse people with these fake labels.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andrewluecke:
Probably more commonly.. Because logically, counterfeit batteries only need to appear at first glance to be real, to trick companies into selling them, whereas OEM/original batteries must also perform well.

If you were selling counterfeits, and you could use cells which cost half the price, but were slightly less capacity and more prone to failure, wouldn't you use them?

If your device does get damaged by counterfeits as well, you can't complain to anywhere. I'm just recommending that you either go original, or a properly branded 3rd party one, but with counterfeits, nobody's reputation is affected, so they don't particularly care..

I'll also add, that considering here in Australia, even in the Aviation industry where safety is affected (and procedures are much more polished than other industries), there are often reports of companies reselling equipment which had exceeded its operating boundaries a few times, or exceeded it's max hours permitted as new (or with claims that they were used less), and counterfeit parts are often found. Whilst it's true they don't always lead to disaster, they often degrade over a shorter period or sometimes have problems which aren't immediately visible from the outside. Problems with counterfeit gear are common in every other industry, why wouldn't it apply here?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alovell83:
As long as we are using statistics that we pull from air, I'll say a 3rd party battery that uses a fake label rather than listing compatible devices will have an increased likelihood to crapout. After all, these companies aren't attempting to build a brand/name so they have no incentive for BQ/QC/QA.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
I wonder how many people on this forum have bought fakes (who may not have if they knew which was which) in the time this thread has been running....
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brunes:
Right, same thing with Sony... those batteries never fail.... oh wait.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AllGamer:
i remember motorola having a few recalls about the same problem, but that was a while back, when the Razors were the hottest phones in the market
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alovell83:
Cool story bro.

I don't even know how to respond...:confused:
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brunes:
The reality is that there are only a small handful of lion *cell* makers in the world. So when you buy a name-brand product from a company that does not make the cells, they could be being sourced from anywhere.

The lion cells are what is important, not the casing they are enclosed in. The odds of any given battery having some bad cells in it are the same regardless of if you buy it from eBay or from Samsung themself - there could be a bad batch by the manufacturer at any time.

Now, Samsung is a manufacturer or lion cells... so they probably do make the cells in the SGS themselves. This is not certain though - IE i know for a fact sometimes LG products use Sanyo cells, even though LG makes lion cells themselves. This is probably for production capacity reasons or something.

But IMO even if Samsung makes the cells themselves, that doesn't mean they are of any higher quality than say, Sanyo cells, who is the market leader. Are the cells in the battery on eBay Sanyo? Who knows? The fact is it is usually impossible to know for sure what cells are in a battery unless you crack it open and examine it.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mickeko:
Would be funny to open the samsung battery and find sanyo while the unbranded battery used samsung.

It's not entirely impossible that it could be true. :)

Sent using my personal Dis-organizer GT-I9000
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Have I missed it or is the OP going to give the definitive (as he sees it) answer to this question re the original pictures?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AllGamer:
the first person that replied to the original post already answered it