yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] cyber-junkie:
Hy,

now I've build a StartProgWOSense v2.5.3 with your modifications (and a little fix at the autostartscript):

Thread: [APP] StartProgWOSense - Update v2.5.3!! - auto-disable Sense to free RAM !!

Download: StartProgWOSense v2.5.3.zip

Changelog:

2.5.3

Programcode partly rewritten by arealityfarbetween

Added a 'Special thanks to'-page to 'About StartProgWOSense' - with credits to all coders/translators

Enjoy it!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] NergoX:
Could you reupload Fodd Sense on 6.5.x (WWE), please?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] arealityfarbetween:
New versions being uploaded today, that's why they're not there atm.

Updating changelog and md5sums today when I can remember all of the changes...

EDIT: One of you asked me about creating a link for items in the settings menu. I just came across this page. Looks like it'll help you get the job done.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] NergoX:
I'm looking forward to test this one :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] theXaviar:
Waiting in anticipation. Did you get a chance to test the Huashan dialer in Sx RC2? Is caller ID working?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] arealityfarbetween:
Finally, all ROMs are uploaded.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] christis:
Yes!! Have been waiting for that all day! Downloading right away.

Thanks chef!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] NergoX:
WWE (0409): Fodd Sx2.rc2 is ESN, not WWE.

WWE (0409): Fodd ES1.rc6 is ITA, not WWE.

Or descriptions on the upload server are wrong.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] christis:
Also ITA(0410): Fodd Sx2.rc2 is ESN not ITA

Descriptions are not wrong :(

Chef pleaaaase fix :(
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] djkail:
Testing Es1.rc6.No Huashan dialler?? Im still seeying the previous dialer :confused:. How to activate it? Will you use some "phone canvas" in future releases? (slide to answer) . I'm using your rom with s2u2 to solve this... but it's always blocking the phone... in the worst moment (usb storage mode... no option to cancel it). I prefer your manila locker... but no slide to answer option, and wm locker doesn't work well... tried (do you remember? :o:o:o)

Thanks. Your rom it's even faster than before... good work.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] arealityfarbetween:
@djkail: The Huashan dialler is in Sx, ES will most likely always have the WM dialler but the sliding lockscreen of wm6.5 worked fine for me. It's not the manila locker that you're expecting to have slide to answer is it?

Sorry about the upload folks, megaupload won't take those three files for some reason. It keeps saying successful :( Uploading the missing ones through ubuntu one atm...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] theXaviar:
Sx2.RC2 WWE has a broken link.

Oops, sorry. I see, you're having server trouble. Hadn't refreshed page so I didn't see that last post.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] bastyano:
News about Fodd SX ITA?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] arealityfarbetween:
All links will be down for a bit, trying a full re-upload. Dagnabit! :mad:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] eWay:
re-upload

Hi, I would highly appreciate a GERMAN ROM WM 6.5 /w Sense. The links here still seem to be down :(

Any idea, how to get it ?

thx
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] theXaviar:
Still on Sx RC1 (eagerly awaiting RC2) but have a question regarding HTC End Key for anyone who can help.

Glad a long press of the Red Key doesn't lock the the phone in this ROM (had lock problems with other 6.5.x ROM's) but End Key's default options (Aeroplane Mode, Vibrate, Terminate Data Connexion, Lock Phone) are all of no use to me personally (I can set vibrate mode & lock the phone quickly & easily enough via the Volume Keys & Start Menu Soft Key respectively).

The only mappable key appears to be the Green Key which I have mapped to Rotate Screen for quick portrait-to-landscape (& back) switching as I use my phone's a GPS a fair bit for work.

I would like a long press of the Red Key to open ArkSwitch but adding an ArkSwitch.lnk to the Windows folder (renamed as Long_End.lnk) doesn't work because HTC End Key is running.

So my questions are:

How might I change the options offered by the End Key application (to replace Aeroplane Mode with ArkSwitch for e.g.)?

OR how can I safely disable or uninstall HTC End Key so that my Windows/Long_End.lnk works?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] hoifree:
Thanks for the link about "How to create .LNK files and use parameters". Now I can create a panel in CLauncher to display the memory usage easily.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] miguel_correia:
Portuguease version

Hi, did that Rom that I pointed you in Portuguease will help you to make a Fodd Rom in PTG? Thanks, great work! :D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] arealityfarbetween:
Ok, ROMs available for download again. What a night! I've had to upload the Sx2 0409 and 0410 localisations as 7z files to get megaupload to accept them.

Next up I will 7z them all to see if that sorts out the problem entirely.

Titanium Users: I know about the problem with titanium weather-a partial fix is here, just dump the script in your windows folder and run an update. I also know that ATFaveContacts can't change the layout using the gui application, any other bugs, let me know :)

@miguel_correia: I couldn't look at the PTG rom because there was no link-could you repost with an actual link? Just click the world button when you're creating your post and it'll ask you for the URL. Cheers!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] miguel_correia:
"To prevent spam to the forums, new users are not permitted to post outside links in their messages. All new user accounts will be verified by moderators before this restriction is removed."

xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=579262

Thanks =)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] arealityfarbetween:
That's exactly what I needed! I had no idea about that restriction either :D

Cheers bro, will take a look see this week. Don't expect it until atleast the weekend though as I've got a few projects on the go...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] miguel_correia:
Thanks, you're the man =)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] theXaviar:
You're doing a great job. Just installed Sx2.RC2 and caller ID :-) BUT video call fails every time :-( Can't video call out and attempted video calls in are only audio. No joy here.

RC1 had no trouble video calling (but no caller ID) - this one's the opposite. Also QuickGPS keeps popping up with an information expired alert yet fails to download data every time.

I'll test more in the morning.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] jarno_jarno:
I'v got another bug/problem with ?ES? (the one with windows dialer and sense 2019/rss) (The version before you uploaded new ones)

Regularly after a while (2-3 days) and without a restart, when I put the phone on powercable to recharch battery, the following morning the phone is 'dead'. Need to reset device or take accu out (power off comes not in screen).

Furhtermore, last time used tomtom for a while, and after quitting and pushed power button once to 'lock' backlight was staying on, screen black. Also the battery loading led (turning rounds in the navication button) was stil blinking/turning, but the usb cable was already disconnect a while from car. Normal restart was enough.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] arealityfarbetween:
@jarno_jarno: yeah, I've noticed some weirdness with ES myself as I've been using it over the course of today.

I set the lock screen to activate on it's own and when the phone locks in a call I saw some remnants of the HTC dialler which is v.weird because it's not included. Could be just that I didn't MTTY before this flash.

As for intermittent issues after 2-3 days, the power one is weird but does sound like a freeze, perhaps... Do you use CleanRAM or similar? If not, give it a go and see if it resolves.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] theXaviar:
Morning all (here at least). 2nd round of testing and Sx2.RC2 is smooth and Quick GPS seems to've sorted itself out but video is call still not working.

Yesterday using Sx1.RC1 on Three here in Australia = functional video calling (incoming & outgoing) via Rhodium dialer (but no caller ID on Slide-to-Answer screen).

Today using Sx2.RC2 on the same network = non-functional video calling (incoming or outgoing) via Huashan dialer but functional caller ID on Slide-to-Answer.

MTTY'ed before & hard reset after, kept my bills up to date, have proper 3 reception, etc.

Can anyone confirm functional video calling in Sx2.RC2?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] jarno_jarno:
I did MTTY no hard reset, but the last one is only after bad cab install or software settings isnt it. I dont use cleanram, maybye indeed bad things are kept in memory with normal usage and after a long night standby it freezes. phone never freezes during usage. or it has to do something with recharch process, when the battery is full its using some battery percentage and recharching process is restarted again (think this proces is looping couple times during night)..... oh yeah I don't use the lockscreen, only always the power button to deactivate screen and buttons, so windows lockscreen itself cant be the problem.

hope you can repuduce this and fix this main problem, because I use my phone as wake up alarm :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] theXaviar:
Been testing out the ROM's on 2 Touch Diamonds during my day off. One running Sx1 the other running Sx2 then MTTY'ed & flashed the former with Sx2 & the latter with Sx1 to check for handset & USIM issues. Tried both SIM's on each handset with both ROM's.

Same results each time; good video calls but no caller ID in Sx1 and good caller ID but no video calls in Sx2.

In Sx2 the video call fails and prompts to try again (repeatedly - failing every time).

In Sx1 the phone knows who is calling (during the call) & displays the # & picture correctly - it's just the Slide-to-answer screen which is blank. Is there some way to disable Slide-to-Answer or use a 3rd-party app which will provide correct caller ID?

I have a video call Rhodium phone dialer CAB & a couple of different 3G Video call CABS so I might try installing them one @ a time on each ROM to see if they change anything (which, I know, is unlikely).

I consider them both pretty essential services. Any ideas? :confused:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] theXaviar:
As I expected, installing the Rhodium phone canvass CAB in Sx2 fixes video calling but breaks caller ID.

Was video calling working properly in Sx2 when you tested it prior to uploading?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Abner78:
First of all, thanks for uploading your rom to megaupload.

Got a (little) problem tough, currently using ES rc6 but noticed since rc4 : the operator name displayed in the home screen and lockscreen is always the first operator you can attach to...

It never changes even if you change band (from WCDMA to GSM as I do frequently).

Am I the only one?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] ola486:
A great work !!!!! ;)

Probably the better ROM i found..

Anyway, I have a question: where I can find Rc7?

Many thanks
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] arealityfarbetween:
@theXaviar: I hadn't tested video calling, just assumed it would work since I had included the video calling package along with the new dialler. You know what they say about assumptions. Anyhoo, chill out and download rc3 ;)

@Abner78: I tend not to switch networks but I shall take a look next time ES goes onto my diamond. I think my Sense 2.5.2019 build might have some modified files WRT the operator name display on the hometab, anyone else confirm?

To everyone else, ES1.rc7 & Sx2.rc3 are available. Various fixes, mostly titanium based. Check the changelog on post #2 for details.

Enjoy!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] scorelord:
Could you build yer Fodd Sense with wm 6.1. I switch roms ALOT and still find wm 6.5 ugly. The context menu handling is way too big in wm 6.5 for the diamond.

ie:

It just doesnt fit. NLD would be nice also :). There are a few cookers building wm6.1 roms with sense 2.1 but only wwe's.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] arealityfarbetween:
@scorelord: I would check out Gen.Y if I were you. My ROMs are based on the packages found in his kitchen. But really-what's the difference between having menu enhancement take up most of the screen compared to wm6.5's context menus taking up most of the screen? :p

EDIT: Those of you who wanted to remove the RSS hub from the homescreen but had trouble with cloudy's cab, can try the cab posted here. Looks promising, as there's a screenshot too!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] scorelord:
@ arealityfarbetween

Actually, I just reflashed gen.y d2 5.5a nld again. I'm just missing the fancy pancy stuff from the last couple of months.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] arealityfarbetween:
The only difference between Sx and D2 is that I updated shared resources to fix a slight graphical bug in the date picker. The rest is registry tweaks really.

Let me know of this fancy stuff you speak of and I'll take a second look! :cool:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] for3v3r:
can't download..:(

Megaupload say "The file you are trying to access is temporarily unavailable." [ES1_RC7_0409.7z].
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] lukaszde:
If I use ManilaLocker, after block and unlock device, can't use volume button, sometimes can't use other buttons like home, back, etc

Anyone has similar problem ?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] allhill:
Testing Fodd Extra Sense on 6.5.x

i'll report if found some bugs chef :D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] jlopezvl:
Best rom i have been seen ...

Congratulations !!!!

One suggest:

I like to see wich % of power leaves .... Now in the today tab only can see a battery icon with four ticks.

It will be possible to change this icon with a battery icon and an % charge left.

By now, i have installed the batty soft to see in today tab the remaining battery charge ...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] ola486:
Can u explain me what can i do with PagePool_Changer.exe??

I flashed my HTC without use this program and everything is ok :)

Am i lucky?? :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] gs1960:
Hi friend,

i have a little question...

In the alarm it's possible repeat the sound until i stop it?

I setted so:

but the the alarm repeat only 1 time and no more.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] hoifree:
Hi, just came across this "WM 6.5.x Start Menu Replacement" http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=817137 in other ROM's thread and it looks quite interesting. I'm testing it and get more than 10MB of free RAM. Maybe you don't need the StartProgWOSense.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] djkail:
Hi!

Detected a bug!

When you try to add some cities to HTC Sense (your city + other) and you use update button in "wifi mode" it fails to update and says "it can't connect, retry?" Maybe it's a problem with language files or the city files are out of date because there aren't some of them that previous versions of sense had.... (In Spain for example... Lugo, La Coruña,...)

Using

Fodd Extra Sense

* ESN (0C0A): Fodd ES1.rc6

Can you confirm bug in WWE or other languages in rc7?

Great Job!!

PD: Are there any diferences between startprogwosense 2.5.3 and 2.6.0??¿¿¿¿ No update in official thread!

(still using rc6 instead of rc7, sorry)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] djkail:
Hi again...

I have seen a start menu replacement that can help you to save some ram and it has 4/5 shortcut for often apps in this tread. It works, maybe you would like to include it with your rom (4-3 % more ram in ES1.rc6)

xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=7578364#post7578364

Best regards. XD
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] arealityfarbetween:
Good morning everybody! I've been a bit pre-occupied recently (had my gf here since tuesday) so haven't had much of a chance to provide answers to all your questions.

Anyhoo, here they are:

@djkail: I've experimented with that. It does indeed save about 5% RAM when you remove the start menu, the thing is-it's a total removal, not just disable. Take the cab apart and you'll find 3 empty start menu *.cpr files.

The menu replacement you mention is actually included in ES. You just need to switch it on, to save the ram you allso need to install Arto's cab to remove the WM6.5 menu. One problem though, if you remove the actual WM6.5 start menu you can't get access to "All Settings" from the Sense tab-so the only settings you can modify are the ones in the tab. Try it, YMMV, but that's what happened to me.

Cheers for reminding me about SPWOS, I need to let cyber-junkie know that I did some more work on it. There's some pretty major differences infact, in addition to a few bugs being fixed. Take a look at the code from the stock version compared to my modified one and you'll see.

For the weather problem, have you got "My Location" switched on? I've seen that error when updating via Wi-Fi myself sometimes cos location services needs cell towers to work...

If you're a weather junkie, you should totally check out TitaniumWeather, I have to say-the version included knocks the socks off Sense's weather page, in every way-the only limit is that you can only have one location, but it does do "My Location" via sleuth's service-i've found it way more reliable than Sense too.

@hoifree: Does that menu have a 'most recently used' list? SPWOS is needed regardless because Sense generates a tile cache-i.e. you have about 40-45mb of ram, depending on the rom, at boot which is fine for almost every application. But switch tabs and you'll see that 40mb decrease very rapidly to about 20mb and lower over time. Sense will always do this so removing the start menu only really helps at boot. Plus, I've put in a fair few hours to SPWOS! ;)

@gs1960: Which screen is that one? I'm on Sx atm, and when I set an alarm if I set it to repeat it does work, but the repeat is about 20-30 seconds later. Screenshots aren't so good in helping me troubleshoot the issue. It's better to tell us the menu steps you took to get to the screen, translated into english if possible too! e.g. Start>Settings>Clocks and Alarms>Alarms tab etc...

@ola486: pagepool_changer is useful for changing the pagepool of the ROM :D it's set at 10mb to begin with. You don't really need it but I'd recommend changing to 12 if you're using ES. For more info, google.

@jlopezvl: yes you can.

@allhill: Nice one bro, I'll have to make an updated version with all the titanium enhancements.

@lukassszzz: Will test that issue next time I flash ES, probably sometime this weekend. Anyone else confirm in meantime?

@for3v3r: That's the sucky thing about megaupload! :rolleyes:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] allhill:
Testing Fodd Extra Sense on 6.5.x

After using this ROM for 2 days(with Sense),

just found a bug... sometimes, after restart, my favorite contact at people tab is missing :)

the speed is stable and good for our diamond.But the only problems i found is out of free RAM after 24 hour usage :(

after boot, 30-34mb free RAM, but after many hours, only left around 18mb free RAM, using cleanRAM not really give a lots effect.

hope your next update will increase free RAM, maybe some tweak or compress :cool:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] arealityfarbetween:
Is that figure for when the ROM is fully loaded? ie. Do you install anything via UC? (which will create start menu icons eating some ram) Did you wait for Sense to load the weather?

My figures are immediately after second boot once Connection Setup has done it's thing but before Sense has been configured. Try this-soft reset and as soon as you see Sense tap the top bar for Arkswitch and re-read the free memory there. Is it still only 30-34mb free?

Are you using CleanRAM level 3? Also, set the "Advanced/GUI" option to HTC Sense and it should restart sense when you CleanRAM.

The next ESx will be with the 28240 base, which I haven't graphically optimised yet, but I'm getting similar figures with Sx compared to before the change of WM6.5.x build (they're about 2mb out) I might be able to do something with the theme by taking it apart and recompressing the images but I think that's about all I can do WRT that.

I haven't had much interest in ESx but then again it's still served from ubuntu one so I have no idea how many of you have downloaded it.

@miguel_correia: Sorry dude, but I still haven't had a chance to look into adding Portugese since I've been doing so much work on TitaniumWeather, XDA_UC, SPWOS etc etc etc... along with my uni work.

I promise you I'll look at it this week. The bonus with megaupload is that I don't seem to be limited as to what I can put there so space shouldn't be a problem once I can build it. Have you translated the manila locker/facebook tab/call history xml's found on post #3? If not, please download the file linked there under ES issues and attach them here so I can pop them into the build when I get round to it.

Cheers all! :D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] allhill:
anyway i don't really understand about UC :) next i'll read about that.

as i say, the ROM running very good, i love this sense.

1. About RAM, after soft reset, the free RAM is +/- 30mb, but after i using it for a hours, like sending text, make a call, see albums picture, weather, etc. the free RAM decrease to <20mb, so i run cleanRAM level 3, maximal free RAM after it is +/- 25mb.

RAM usage is very good. Around 20-25mb free ram at average, everyday usage. But, its WM 6.5.3 with Sense 2019, RAM usage is best :D

recently, i install Start Menu Replacement, its give more +/- 10mb free RAM :D

now i have +/- 30mb free RAM.

2. Battery is good and getting better after a week of usage (as usual).

3. Sound quality of a phone call is good. No echo at all.

Pros:

- stable, low mem usage for WM 6.5.3+Sense 2019, can recommendable for everyday work

Cons:

- because its testing state, maybe there more some bugs that i still not found :D

i can't wait your next update for WM6.5.x with sense 2019 :D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] for3v3r:
pffff! :( please make a mirror or tell me where I can download besydes megaupload!:(

P.S. - sry for my english!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] cliveming:
the ROM so far very good, fast and stable. But I met a problem, during a call, the screen backlight off, and lock the screen, if i wakeup the screen, the screen display just like broken, i try if can capture the screen.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] sandokanito:
This effect always happens to me every 3 days of use. In all versions of the ROMs.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] djkail:
@cliveming and @sandokanito have you tried MTTY to flash the rom? Use this method to flash the room and avoid problems (posted in this thread #1)

In spanish: Has usado MTTY para flashear la rom sandokanito? Sigue el metodo de este post de xda:

xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=540290

If you used this method, maybe you installed some software or some customizations that fails with this rom. Have you installed some customization software?

Good luck!!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] arealityfarbetween:
Yeah, I noticed that too.

I thought it might have been like the old status bar glitch that occurred with Sx a while ago. You can work around it by installing Touch InCall Screen Tweak from the recommended cabs and setting "Disable Autolock during call".

Hope this helps. :)