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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dirtybirdphoenix:
i don't think those themes you are talking about because the old rom is TF3D and theis is HTC Sense. the missed calls and voicemails are still still in the top bar and if you just hit the call button on the bottom of face you will bring up the dialer which has your call history but it only shows one call in each direction for each number, it you go to the favorites tab and clock all contacts at the bottom it brings up all your contacts and you can use the slider at the bottom to go over to the call history. this is one of those things that annoys me, i liked having the all people on the home screen.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jayosee:
Yea it is very annoying. AND I just noticed that once I have a missed call, if I dont hit that bar at the top, all the next calls, voicemails, texts messages, will also go STRAIGHT TO THE TOP BAR AND I WILL NOT SEE THEM COME IN! I called myself to test it!! I think maybe its just my phone, because I was having problems before with TF3D with freezing. I called HTC and they said I can send them the phone and wait about 3 weeks for repair. How nice of them huh?!? Im just gonna go back to AT&T and tell them to get me another one, and start fresh! I do like alot of the features for Sense, especially the weather on the home page, but if I cannot see right away that there is a missed call, voicemail, text message, etc, then what is the point
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] StrangeShadow:
Yeah this really sucks...can't open a message when it pops up on screen.

Anyone have or know of a fix for this?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jayosee:
I found a fix for my problems. I called AT&T and told them what happened. They actually have stopped selling the Tilt 2, and the rep told me it was because they were having so many issues, especially with the update!!! so they are giving me another phone. I will go pick it up later today. Good to still be under warranty, and a long time customer. Trust me, I get stuff like that all the time, cuz they dont want to lose me as a paying customer. I have been with them since it was Pac Bell, then Cingular, then Cingular/AT&T, then AT&T. So they have plenty of my money already lol. Just gonna get another phone and leave it alone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] StrangeShadow:
Can we No longer put the owner information?

Where is this setting?

I went to settings> personal...but it's not there anymore?

am I missing something?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] StrangeShadow:
Nvm I got it back when I installed BsB Tweaks...prior to that it wasn't on the new rom though,
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] josehijo:
SMS and Activesync

On WM6.5 we had de feature to Sync SMS Text Messages with Exchagne 2010. I have noticed that with ATT messaging this Sync is not happening for any oncoming or outgoing messages. Is there a way to not use the ATT messaging without having to turn off HTC Sense? Becasue after Sense is off, then you have the traditional SMS funcitonality hence it starts syncing again with Exchange. Cheers,
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jayosee:
just a quick update. got new phone, and it was already updated with the rom. DAMN. so anyways, it works a little better than the old one (must have been both the old phone and the new rom having a problem). Anyways, I figured out a little issue with the "sent message" thing on the top when you send a message. I have it set up to show the pop up at the bottom telling me a message was sent. So, if you press ok, then it will NOT show up on the top bar!!! Just thought I would share that with you guys. I dont know how to do the registry thing, and I didnt want to even attempt it without really knowing what I was doing, how to do it, what program to install, etc. This works ok for me for now. Maybe later someone will have a cab :) simple enough for newbs like me. Still hoping someone can figure out how to get rid of the quick links on the home page only, and replace it with the old "missed calls" "voicemail" thing instead. Then I think the home page will be nice and clean, and just slide down for quick links. PERFECT SOLUTION!!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jayosee:
Also a different issue I need help with. I installed a few tweaks and mods like the nice task bar mod, 4x4 quick link, clear clock, etc. I put my background picture BLACK under the weather wallpaper section. Now my problem is, when I slide the face up for landscape view, the background is split in half and 2 different colors. where the clock is, it is still black, BUT where the quick links are, the background is blue. How can I fix that? Also, is there a way to make the quick links transparant, like I did with the clock and calander and slide bar? And one last thing. All of the other pages besides the home screen, have that blue background with the at&t planet thing on it. How can I change that too? Thanks for any help provided.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jbplumbing.ca:
Has anyone been able to print a word file created on the phone from jetcet? It wont show in thw dir. I think it is too new of a file. Is there a work around.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dirtybirdphoenix:
man, you should just deal with it until WP7 comes out... LOL... let AT&T hook you up w/ a nice new WP7 when they launch.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Captain_Eric:
How can I go back to the old ROM?

I don't use Sense and want my old SMS/Text messaging back. How can I get the previous ROM (or as previously asked, how can I get rid of the HTC messaging?)?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jayosee:
does anyone know when AT&T is supposed to release a WP7 phone? Curious to know if there is any news or if anyone has even tried it yet.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jayosee:
under the Mods section, there is something that says StartMenu_Grid cabs. Can someone explain to me what that means? And also, why would you want to turn off the gprs? I dont know what that does. Just curious. thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] joshuaschrock:
Old Style Input

I must be missing something because I've not seen anyone else mention this. How do you get back the old style tiny touch screen keyboard, I hate the new finger touch one cause you cant use stylus swipes to capitalize, backspace etc.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] bowserb:
I feel the same way. I asked HTC tech support...and they referred me back here! Found the old ROM at:

http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=windows mobile&model=Rhodium

Installed and I'm back. Missed Calls, New Voicemail, Agenda all back on the home page along with Task Manager in the top corner. Also, I have the Programs tab with the bottom link to All Programs. Crudscraper to get rid of the junk...again...and it's the good old days all over again. It's August 2010.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Captain_Eric:
Awesome. I got to the site, but didn't see the former version, or at least didn't understand what I was looking at. Which did you use? I want to stay with AT&T ROM (for now) for warranty purposes.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jayosee:
I found a picture of pretty much EXACTLY what I would like. It has the Sense, the weather, the call info, the calander is there too (but Im sure that can be changed to messages, etc) Maybe this is a different version of Sense than the new version update for AT&T. But it looks exactly like I want mine to look (with or without the quick link page that you slide down to see, I dont mind one way or the other) If someone can figure out how to make this work with the new AT&T rom, I would greatly appreciate it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] timah68911:
Messages Tab

Does anyone know if there is a way to make the messages tab default to open up in the all messages screen?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] StrangeShadow:
That might be sense 2.1....not sure....or the weather and bottom sense tab were added.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] StrangeShadow:
Another issue: All the old input methods are gone.

We don't have the Block letter, transcriber, etc anymore, just the touch input.

I don't know if others have noticed this too, but we can no longer put the keyboard to light up always when using it. It now works completely on the light sensor. This sucks too.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jayosee:
so if that is Sense 2.1, then is there a way to put that on instead of the new AT&T rom? Because that will basically have the weather info on the home page, the missed call info, voicemail, agenda. It looks like it will be missing the quick links, but im ok with that. Then I can just add the clear clock cab, better icon tab, and thats it!! Man why do they make it so difficult!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] timah68911:
HTC messaging

I have noticed that when i respond to a text message too quickly, it pits my response above the original message....is there a way to fix this?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] StrangeShadow:
Anyone know if these can be fixed by just changing things in the registry?

I just found a good cab/program for editing my registry, and added the missing camera options, like sports, burst for multi-shots etc.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jayosee:
Does anybody have any inof on what rom version this is, and where I can find it? If so please please let me know. I dont like the new at&t rom. If freezes way to much for me, I keep getting the black screen of death, the messaging sux, the contact pictures and fb pictures keep unlinking, etc etc. I cant understand why there are so many problems with a new updated rom. Oh well. If the one in the picture provided is available, please let me know where it is, and how to install it, step by step. I am just not that savy with this phone stuff yet. Thank you
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] pjb3589:
Another issue I've noticed is that even if my phone is on silent, it will still vibrate at times for an incoming call or email/text. This is very annoying given how loud the phone is when vibrating if I'm in a meeting or listening to a presentation. Anyone else had this problem?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Miami_Son:
The pic is of Windows Mobile 6.5 with TF3D 2.1. That is what my stock AT$T ROM has. After reading all the problems with the new ROM, I'm sticking with it. I have the ROM file, but it is too big to post here.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jayosee:
Im sorry, but I think you are mistaken. That is a SENSE rom, as you can see the weather on the home page. TF3D does not have that. Unless there is a different one than what came with the Tilt2, because mine definately did not have it. Also the scroll icons at the bottom are from SENSE also. Are you sure you have TF3D and not SENSE?

Unless you have some mods on it to add those features, which I wouldnt mind either way. If so, then how can I get the rom file, because I was ok with the phone before even though it was a little slow. I just like the look of this with the weather on the home page, and the SENSE look, if it is not actually a SENSE rom, but a moded TF3D as you are saying.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Miami_Son:
My bad, didn't see the weather. That is Sense 2.5 in that pic. I definitely have TF3D 2.1 on my phone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jayosee:
again, I think that is not correct. SENSE 2.5 is what the new rom is, and it has the quick links, and is missing the call history and voicemail thing, which is shown on this picture. So this picture I dont think is SENSE 2.5. Someone earlier said it might be SENSE 2.1, but I have no confirmation for sure yet. That was why I was asking, because it looks to me that it would be exactly what I want. Hopefully someone will read this and let me know for sure, and where I can get it, and how to install it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Miami_Son:
AT$T never shipped the Tilt 2 with Sense 2.1. The original ROM had TF3D 2.1 and the current updated ROM has Sense 2.5. Only the TouchPro 2 was ever shipped with Sense 2.1.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jayosee:
oh ok. so maybe this picture is a TP2 unlocked to work on AT&T? If so then Im now gonna either find a TP2 unlocked on craigsilst, or ask if there is ANYONE on here that would know of a way that I can have it on my TILT2. If its possible, please let me know.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Miami_Son:
There are several cooked ROMs using Sense 2.1. Look in the ROM development subforum.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jayosee:
do you have a good recommendation on which one I should use? And how to install it? Do I do it just the same like when I updated to Sense 2.5? Sorry for all the questions, but I just dont want to make a mistake.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ms0529:
Wrong friends, the original ROM was TF3D and the latest ROM is Sense 2.5, BUT the stripped ROM posted earlier before the official release from AT&T has Sense 2.1 built into it and it created all kinds of misery. The newest ROM is indeed Sense 2.5 but the one posted here earlier was 2.1. I know, I loaded it and had misery with it until I flashed the new official ROM with 2.5 dated 8-30. There are several cabs out there that will add a new tab for missed calls, but they do show up on your dialer page, all you have to do is touch phone at the bottom left, it brings up the dialer page and all calls, both missed and recieved are noted there.

After screwing around for months with flashing ROMs trying to rid myself of the SOD, the newest release of official ROM from ATT for the TILT2 solved my SOD problems and if you read through this and other threads for this ROM, you will get all the cabs you need to dress it up like you want.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Miami_Son:
Read my post again: I said AT$T never released a Tilt 2 ROM with Sense 2.1 on it. I stand by that statement. Whatever that "leaked" ROM had in it, that was not an official AT$T or HTC release. Only the TouchPro 2 had Sense 2.1 and that is not an AT$T phone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ms0529:
sorry to disagree, but ATT rep loaded my phone with the version with sense 2.1. There were some 350 or so Tilt 2 phones delivered with this ROM from HTC in the final production runs of the phone, so there are some out there. Interstingly, the ROM version and radio are exactly the same between the one containing 2.1 and 2.5. HTC chose not to update the ROM id for whatever reason.

I have had multiple conversations with HTC and ATT trying to solve my company problems, as I have staff using this phone all over US and we had some 40 phones to update. My IT guys got sick of it, but we have some proprietary software that only runs on WM for the moment, but we are testing it now on Iphone and Android to try to get to a more stable platform. This device held a lot of promise, but way too buggy, with hardware and software problems.

I can upload the official ATT sense 2.1 ROM if you want to try it or look it over.

Whatever the reasons, 2.5 has solved most of our SOD issues with these devices, but it is a memory hog, for sure.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] StrangeShadow:
I haven't had this happen...I know alarms still sound often in silent...if you have the box checked to sound alarms even when phone is off...but haven't had these issues on this phone or w/this rom.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] StrangeShadow:
Other Input Methods Cab

Letter Recognizer, Block Recognizer, and Transcriber.

Tried, and it works. ;D

Also adds options under Settings>Personal>Input ;D

Now I just need the keyboard lighting options and Reply to message func.!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] idle_mind:
Background for all tabs

Has anyone found a background for all tabs installation that works with this new 2.5 build? I've tried a few but they didn't work.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] StrangeShadow:
I use cookies home tab, 1.8.5

This automatically puts this option in the wall paper settings, works great.

I tried the Beta 2.0 version, but it had too many bugs, so I went back to the 1.8.5
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] StrangeShadow:
Has anyone found an MP3 Trimmer that actually works for us?

I tried a few on here already.

There were two that look perfect, and are HTC products, but when I try to open an mp3 file, the program doesn't show any on my device...which is nuts cause I have some 4GB's of mp#'s on my device.

Here are two of the many I have tried, if someone else wants to play with them.

They install fine, seam to work fine, until trying to open am mp3 file...I go to my music folders and they show the album folders, but show them empty when clicking on them.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] LiquidXed:
DisableSMSSuccess

DisableSMSSuccess

also made a cab of crud scraper
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] StrangeShadow:
Any way to keep wifi on in standby?

I did a few searches...but didn't find much.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] idle_mind:
I tried the 1.8.5 for a little over a week. My slider started getting real buggy after a few days. Even after restarting the phone it would get all squirrely after a short while. Also the slider had this blue shadow looking thing on the right side of it. So I just decided to take it back off. Fun while it lasted. Hopefully I can find a wallpaper changer for the new 2.5 Sense. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jayosee:
is the DisableSMSSuccess cab so you dont get the little acknowledgement on the top bar everytime you send a text? Cuz that thing is annoying.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] armenh72:
A way to solve HTC Album issue that is mentioned in the first post is simply use a file explorer, I personally use mighty Resco File Explorer and make directories that you do not want to show up in HTC album as hidden. Worsks perfectly on my phone and now I have only a specific folder on my storage card to show up in HTC album. Before doing this i recommend to delete Cache in HTC album folder on your device. Similarly, if in your Music tab you do not want to see all wav, wma, mp3 files on your device and SC, simply make hidden unwanted directories.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] hsn1234:
Hi guys, I've tried to find out why voice command no longer reads the sms you receive in HTC sense but I have not found anyone interested in the subject. Does anyone know if it's possible to have it read the messages again?

Also the cab posted earlier to bring back the transcriber and letter/block recognizer does not bring back the keyboard. some symbols cannot be typed without the keyboard (i.e. |). so any help in that area would be great as well. Thanks for all your great work.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] aspromalee:
Good question. I haven't tried it yet. Has anyone else noticed?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] aspromalee:
Screen Keyboard

Hey, I have tried a few different keyboard fix cabs I've found, but none seem to do what I'm looking for. I've got the new sense 2.5 AT&T ROM.

Has anyone come up with a touchscreen keyboard cab that resembles the old AT&T Tilt keyboard? I know it works better with the stylus than touch, but it was easier for me to take notes at meetings and such with. Also, anyone know of a symbols feature to anything we currently have?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] StrangeShadow:
Are you referring to a keyboard other than the stock soft-onscreen keyboard we already have?

It sounds like you are referring to the old wm keyboard, versus HTC's keyboard. It wasn't suppose to have it in the cab, since we technically have one already.

There are some keyboards you can add, just look around on pocketpcfreeware or some other sites.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] StrangeShadow:
strange, I never had problems with the slider...maybe it had something to do with something else or other software you had installed.

I did get the blue shadow thing that you mentioned, but not from cookies home tab, I got it when I installed a different transparent slider. This would go away though if I went to People>all People> then back to home. It only appeared after a soft reset.

I know there's a few cabs floating around for the background on all tabs...I saw a few before, but ignored them cause I had the feature with cookies home tab.

I'll need it too now since I uninstalled cookies...without it I have about 25MB of Ram more...so it wasn't worth the loss ram to me, if our phone actually had more ram I would love to run it though, the toggle switches are the best.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] StrangeShadow:
There are a few different versions of BG4All tabs on PPCGeeks by Santod...the same guy who made the 4x4 (16) quicklinks.

There's one that changes the quicklinks to 4x5 too, so we can have 20 quicklinks. They add a function for landscape too, to have a different or same back ground for landscape, plus a calendar tweek to make sundays and saturdays different colors.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] speakeasy78:
No owner info / task manager

I have updated my tilt to the new 2.1.5 rom and there is no [owner info] Icon in settings, personal directory and there is no running task amnager that you can sut off running programs that I can see. also the HTC text messaging is like bogas, How do I go back to 1.5 any body have a link or the software, or fix these idiotic malfunctions of the new ROM 2.1
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] speakeasy78:
looking for the old rom???

I want to backdate my rom to 1.5 on the att tilt 2 does any one know where I can locate it and it is not on the HTC website.....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] bwnotredame06:
give me your email, I'll see if I can send it that way.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] hsn1234:
Yes I was referring to the WM keyboard, I actually like using the stylus. Thanks for the suggestion, I'll try looking for other keyboards but I do prefer the WM one if that's possible at all.

Any news concerning my questions about voice command reading SMS by any chance? it's really a very nice feature when you're busy or if the phone is away. by hearing the message first, you can then decide whether it's worth taking the time to go pick up the phone or not... ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] bwnotredame06:
SPB has a decent keyboard you can try it out on trail -

http://spb.com/pocketpc-software/keyboard/

here's the cab-
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ThatOneMexican:
Im actually having the same issue I think. I tend to receive messages anywhere from a couple of minutes to 4 hours late. Either I have to wake it up or so the messages come in or I have to make a phone call so they can come in. Pretty inconvenient.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Miami_Son:
Maybe you should have read the several threads on this ROM beforehand and you would have seen these and other issues with this ROM and the fixes for most of them. Why do people jump into a ROM update or replacement without doing their homework first?

And if a momd is reading this, why hasn't this thread been moved to ROM Development already?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cgraham1:
Thank you very much for this post. Can you let me know how I search for these CAB files?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] bwnotredame06:
http://xdaforums.com/misc.php?do=showattachments&t=770662#
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Captain_Eric:
I miss the old way. This is too intrusive. Oh well. Thanks anyway.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Fuzzy John:
To enter the Owner Information go to Settings > Today > Items tab.

Uncheck HTC Sense and check Owner Info.

Go to the Today screen and there click on the Owner section. It should take you to where you enter the owner info.

After that back in Today > Items you can uncheck Owner Info and check HTC Sense. You cannot see the owner info while you have HTC Sense running.