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[Kyocera Zio M6000] MagickalShadow:
Oh yeah, you're just all over me. You can't remember who you say what to and then deny your own stupid comments, but yeah, you're all over me....just look at you go...

Any other brilliant bull **** to spew tonight?
[Kyocera Zio M6000] GamerJake0:
Stop trolling, you fail at it anyways. Nice try though.
[Kyocera Zio M6000] GamerJake0:
Hopefully the update is out sometime within the next few days
[Kyocera Zio M6000] z3r0t0l0rEnCe:
Just checked for the update...nada! :(
[Kyocera Zio M6000] MagickalShadow:
Even when the update does come out, I wouldn't expect it at this time of day. Remember Cricket is a US based company and he latest time of day here now is like 6:30 AM. Plus I believe Cricket is based in California where it is like 3:30 AM.
[Kyocera Zio M6000] z3r0t0l0rEnCe:
True!:p Just being hopeful!:D
[Kyocera Zio M6000] oconnorfamilyof4:
OMG I Judy talked to a csr, the update us being released on Feb 30th yeah I'm so excited! Sorry couldn't help it.
[Kyocera Zio M6000] LordAnarchy:
magical, ignore them.

1.6 donut for life! I didn't even want 2.2:)
[Kyocera Zio M6000] jimrothwell123:
:( i'm going to wait...

:0 for 2.2 for the zio or the android muve phone :)
[Kyocera Zio M6000] mattpedigo:
Just for kicks

I figured I'd see if I could get any time frame from a customer rep. I have never gotten anything remotely solid, usually just the "plan to release the update in the near future."

Well, this time, I got, "plan to release the update in fall of 2011."

Bottom line is this, if you like the phone, good. If you don't, get something else. If you don't like it simply because of the operating system, then there's a strong possibility that you'll be drinking champagne on New Years 2012 before you see an update.

At this point, I myself am considering moving over to Sprint and counting my losses. I can get a free Intercept there without this drama.

I love what Cricket offers... budget phones for budget plans. But I am not sure I want to live a few steps behind. It's obviously not a big issue, I'm just kind of a nerd and love having the newest technologies.

If we get the update in February, great. If we don't, then we should appreciate the cheap a** deal we have or fork out more money to a new carrier.
[Kyocera Zio M6000] Fate43:
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This ^^^^^is the BullSh*t Flag, and I am waving it. :)
[Kyocera Zio M6000] phazei:
What happens when you guys click "Check for update" ?

My phone doesn't do anything at all. It blinks orange when I touch it, but then nothing else, no msg or error or anything.
[Kyocera Zio M6000] cricketkilla:
update fall?

now come on..i know itll be before that ..my personal guess... 1st week of march:mad:
[Kyocera Zio M6000] malcriiado:
Im willing to bet that when/if the update comes out it's going to be like the Optimus V stripped version of 2.2. And what I mean by stripped is that the LG Optimus V doesn't support tether (even though there's apps to do that) and flash IN the browser.

Anyway Cricket is comming out with the LG Optimus soon and a new Huawei phone both with 2.2. I guess we get what we pay for! Hopefully it's the LG Optimus 2 or 3D wich I doubt! I'm dropping the Zio once one of these devices come out.

For now I have a problem. I decided to wipe my phone completly since it was "laggin" too much even though I installed the Autokiller app and for some reason I can't uninstall Superuser now!? Any help with this?
[Kyocera Zio M6000] oconnorfamilyof4:
I was able to find a Droid X for $370 on ebay fully flashed to cricket. I am thinking i may get that and leave this zio to the wife. What are your thoughts?
[Kyocera Zio M6000] GamerJake0:
I'd do it, but you should atleast wait another week.
[Kyocera Zio M6000] z3r0t0l0rEnCe:
I'm confident we will get it in the next data to week.
[Kyocera Zio M6000] oconnorfamilyof4:
The lack of update actually has nothing to do with it, I am patiently waiting. i accidently washed my touch pro and need a new one. The Zio is actually on loan from the wife... lol just looking around for when it's time to get my own
[Kyocera Zio M6000] cricketkilla:
CSR

Cricket has now stated that they are getting new phones that have Froyo 2.2 not updating old phones.. they said they will offer a 50$ mail in rebate to customers who upgrade to new phones this spring:confused:
[Kyocera Zio M6000] TakashiMoto:
How about saying WHERE you "heard" this.
[Kyocera Zio M6000] Spz0:
If/when that happens, I'd imagine there will most likely be a universal update from kyocera to 2.1
[Kyocera Zio M6000] phazei:
Has anyone tried this Rom Manager to see if it can backup our ROM?

What needs to be done to create a recovery image? And had anyone figured out how to get into recovery mode?
[Kyocera Zio M6000] Spz0:
I havent looked into this yet, but I found a thread with what I think is this app.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=768697

From that cats experience, I'd have to say No Bueno.

I'll check the app out for myself though anyhow.
[Kyocera Zio M6000] jaystl420:
sanyo zio boot screen

hay guys, i made this video on youtube after i discovered a boot screen of some sort on the zio i hope this helps check it out. Im new so they wont let me post so just go to youtube and type in sanyo zio boot screen in the search engine.(You should see it)
[Kyocera Zio M6000] phazei:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt0SgRQkEdI
[Kyocera Zio M6000] phazei:
Well, the problem with Clockwork Recovery was the install of a recovery firmware that wasn't made for the phone. I don't believe ROM Manager does that (it only utilizes Clockwork if it's already there). So I don't think it would be a problem if it can back it up.
[Kyocera Zio M6000] goku31640:
Rom manager does install clockwork recovery, but only on supported phones, and as of right now clockwork does not support the zio
[Kyocera Zio M6000] voidlife:
Hope the sprint release with 2.1 ends up as a full on update from kyocera.
[Kyocera Zio M6000] phazei:
Does anyone know of any Android 2.2 phones using the Qualcomm MSM7627 all-in-one chip? That already has custom ROMs?

Since it matches our phone, it should have drivers and such that we might need for the 2.2 kernel.
[Kyocera Zio M6000] phazei:
If I boot pressing dial (green) and hangup (red) I get this info:

USB FastBoot:	V0.5
Machine ID:	1007014 v0
Build Date:	Aug 10 2010, 22:52:06

MSM Id: 44
MSM Version: 1.2
Modem Build Id: 76XXT-4715-TSNCJPLYM
Serial Number: UNKNOWN

ptn 0 name='fota_amss' start=538 len=132
ptn 1 name='boot' start=680 len=32
ptn 2 name='system' start=712 len=828
ptn 3 name='flex' start=1540 len=143
ptn 4 name='recovery' start=1683 len=40
ptn 5 name='userdata' start=1723 len=1491
ptn 6 name='fota_boot' start=3214 len=48
ptn 7 name='cache' start=3262 len=828
ptn 8 name='misc' start=4090 len=6
flash_detect_size 4G

Then I have to take out the battery to turn it off.
[Kyocera Zio M6000] MagickalShadow:
Sprint will start selling its version of the Zio tomorrow with Android 2.1 Eclair (per the official Zio Website and Sprint website). I don't know why they can't post an upgrade for the Cricket user.
[Kyocera Zio M6000] phazei:
I agree, it's BS, there's no reason for them not to have put out 2.1 for Cricket, WTF?!
[Kyocera Zio M6000] mxvris:
how hard would it be to pull the rom from the sprint version and put it onto the cricket version? or do we still have to copy the current rom?
[Kyocera Zio M6000] Dwight L:
2.1 is Comming

Logically, Cricket has a lot of incentive for making the 2.1 upgrade happen as soon as they can since they have no contracts to force thier customers to remain with them and they marketed this phone as upgradable to 2.1.

I have discussed these factors with both Cricket support and sales and have been assured that upgrade will happen. Today I was told this will be availibile very soon (probably in October)

I believe that this will happen because:

1) Sprint has begun marketing a device that already has the 2.1 - proving the base code is ready.

2) Cricket has just introduced a cheaper phone ($149) running Android 2.1.

3) They have not camceled the Zio so Cricket expects to sell more Zios.

Without an immenent upgrade, this probably will not happen See 1 & 2.

It is hard for me to believe that Cricket would want to commit to Android while they intentionally killing their more expensive phone sales. Thier entry into the Androd market has been successful so I do not think they would risk the perception that they are too far behind Sprint.
[Kyocera Zio M6000] rat_fink1950:
zio 2.1

I was just wondering after i root the phone will i still be able to download firmware updates without it messing up? Any progress with the 2.1 rom?
[Kyocera Zio M6000] jrbloodmist:
Any updates from cricket ?
[Kyocera Zio M6000] Spz0:
Yes you will be able to update firmware while rooted -- shouldn't foresee any problems. ;)
[Kyocera Zio M6000] MagickalShadow:
Cricket is playing "dumb" on the subject. This is an e-mail I received on October 11 from them:

Thank you for your communication.

I understand that you would like to know when the Kyocera ZIO phones will be upgraded on the latest software version. Currently, we do not have any news and/or updates regarding updating the software version of the said handset. You may however, try to visit any Full Service Cricket Stores in your area for more information and assistance in updating your Kyocera ZIO phone. To locate the nearest Full Service Cricket Store in your area, please visit http://account.mycricket.com/cricketlocations/. When searching for the nearest store, make sure to place a check mark in the box next to "Full Service Location." Full Service Cricket Stores are easily identifiable by the word "Cricket" preceding the store or shopping center name.

Thank you for contacting Cricket Email Support.

Sincerely,

Customer Relations Team

5775 DTC Blvd.

Greenwood Village, CO 80111
[Kyocera Zio M6000] Spz0:
I've run into an inlnown problem with the system update feature of the ZIO.

Even though I am connected to my personal wifi, I cannot seem to successfully run the system update tool in the settings menu.

I've troubleshooted the wifi connection itself and its bulletproof. browser on the phone works, as wel as all other net-reliant apps.

A bit confused here. Anyone else ever ran into this issue?

**afternote: I've tried this on several different wifi networks. All same results.
[Kyocera Zio M6000] Spz0:
Here you go:

Hope that helps
[Kyocera Zio M6000] GamerJake0:
Lol enough with your B.S.
[Kyocera Zio M6000] azsnakes:
Zio os 2.2 update #2

ZIO OS 2.2 UPDATE.......

Cricket will start to push the software update tool to all corp owned stores flashing computers in about a week or two at the most. There will also be a text blast notification to all Zio owners. Update could be done thru the WiFi (10 min aprox) to download on a high speed internet, its a 133 mb file size or it...... can also be done thru the computer using the update tool...

after the update that's the version that should read on the phone. Android Version = 2.2.1

and Build Number = V1.900CR.9C.
[Kyocera Zio M6000] GamerJake0:
Thanks for the post. Great information that's believable.
[Kyocera Zio M6000] oconnorfamilyof4:
So if I am reading the signs right we are getting ever closer to an update. I found this on th FB page today

Will the Zio 2.2 upgrade add multi-touch support? When I first got the phone most of the write ups on the phone said it had multi-touch. It was very disappointing when it didn't.

20 hours ago ·LikeUnlike · · View Feedback (4)Hide Feedback (4)

Cricket Wireless Hi Adam - We'll have more details during the update launch regarding new features and capabilities for the Zio hardware.

they have also moved from "more details soon" to "We'll keep you posted on release and instructions for update when available." this could be a good thing. I just don't want to get my hopes up.

:cool:
[Kyocera Zio M6000] Cricket Ryan:
Kyocera Zio 2.2 Update Coming Soon

Greetings,

My name is Ryan and I work on behalf of Cricket. We appreciate everyone's patience as we finalize the 2.2 update that will be launching soon for the Zio. We understand there has been many rumors and speculations spreading around forums and Facebook regarding dates and time frames when the update was going to be released. Please stay tuned to Cricket's Facebook page at Facebook.com/cricketwireless for official word on when the update is released and instructions on necessary steps to receive the update for the device. Also, many have mentioned that the Zio will not be returning to Cricket and has been rumored as to being "abandoned" by Cricket. We insure you the device will be returning to Cricket phone lineup following the new update.

Best,

Ryan on behalf of Cricket
[Kyocera Zio M6000] Spz0:
Thanks for the clarity Ryan.

Is there a more specific timeframe you can provide us with?

:-)
[Kyocera Zio M6000] mattpedigo:
From Cricket's Facebook: "For our Zio friends - Stay tuned for an announcement regarding the 2.2 update coming soon. Including the announcement will be instructions on how to receive the update. No current update for the Ascend is in the works at this time. It is at the discretion of the manufacturer, Huawei, to determine if a 2.2 update will be allowed for individual devices on each carrier. We will continue to work with Huawei and will provide updates on any future developments."

Seems official enough but still no exact time frame.

source: http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/cricketwireless/posts/500692880587
[Kyocera Zio M6000] chillwill11:
Why put so much time into a out dated phone, it's not even that cheap
[Kyocera Zio M6000] chillwill11:
I got my n1 4 $190 on Craig's list
[Kyocera Zio M6000] TakashiMoto:
You need to learn how to edit your previous post.

not post a bunch of irrelevant crap.

We all bought this phone just a few months ago, and we want the upgrade,

lol and you won't convince us otherwise.
[Kyocera Zio M6000] Spz0:
Good for you kid. Now go post your irrelevant jabber on an N1 forum
[Kyocera Zio M6000] MagickalShadow:
That is not my problem.
[Kyocera Zio M6000] blackops1125:
I got mine free from sprint!!! I can not believe anyone pays for this phone
[Kyocera Zio M6000] TakashiMoto:
Rofl free with a contract, dumbass. Big difference.
[Kyocera Zio M6000] cricketkilla:
Sigh

Im sure thats not the only thing you got off craigslist...hope you have penicillin also or you may go blind
[Kyocera Zio M6000] cricketkilla:
cost?

How much is your phone bill per month.. Contracts now days is bs especially with how fast technology changes
[Kyocera Zio M6000] Spz0:
Also interested in how much your bill is. ...

You -do- realize that the cost of your phone is incorporated into your 2year contract right?
[Kyocera Zio M6000] Fate43:
THIS^^^^ lol
[Kyocera Zio M6000] chrisngrod:
Overpriced. Also I hope this person is a dealer and can flash the phone with your phone number before sending it. This whole flashing misconception gets irritating and hurts the consumer.

I could fully flash a phone and have it working with my number. If I just sent it to the average joe, they wouldn't be able to get it working with theirs. There are multiple settings which have to be changed and you can't just dial *228.

Just FYI. Also hope you're not in a tri band area.
[Kyocera Zio M6000] kf4omc:
I had a place that wanted to charge me $90 to flash my Zio to Metro. and was told that it might not have all the features. I told them to bite me,
[Kyocera Zio M6000] tlc08071:
If ur trying to format ur sd card to ext2 you can try puppy linux.
[Kyocera Zio M6000] chrisngrod:
I would also.... I charge 45 to include esn change on the account, but just do it as a side job since I work from home. The stores around here charge up to around 70 or so (Cricket).
[Kyocera Zio M6000] Spz0:
Finally everyone can stop crying.
[Kyocera Zio M6000] turbo_1327@yahoo.com:
question???

very helpful info FATE43 thank you!!!, i have a question if my phone is already rooted will i need to un-root it prior to the wifi update to 2.2? then re-root it after update is complete. ive read so many posts trying to figure this out and i believe that one post stated they were left with a useless superuser installed on their phone they couldnt remove because they didnt un-root it prior to an upgrade.

from Fate43s link Chalo Valencia Jr. If its rooted, I would recommend to unroot it. I personally have mine rooted and will unroot as soon as the update becomes available. Not sure if it will affect the update in any way, but just in case. =)

i guess i will unroot mine too just in case!!! : )

apps to sd will be included!!! Zclusive That is also included my friend. That function is considered "standard" in 2.2. So min 8 gig card to move all your apps to the sd card.
[Kyocera Zio M6000] MagickalShadow:
Wow, you have some lofty expectations. If I was Nostradamus, I would predict that people will cry about the upgrade being too complicated, taking too long, having to re-root, and an assorted number of other "problems" they will most likely make for themselves, yet blame Cricket and Kyocera for anyway.
[Kyocera Zio M6000] Spz0:
Im a lofty kinda guy I suppose. lol :p Or maybe I just like to cling onto my false hope that society in general isnt going down the dumps. o.0

But ya know who has 2 thumbs and doesnt give a sh** about an update either way? This guy, right here.

Why? My phone runs great -- has run great since I got the thing.

I think on the whole people expect way too much out of this phone. Its a great phone for its system stats, and price range, but I'd imagine the people who experience problem after problem with this phone are bogging it down with crap.

Your phone is like a computer -- the more you install, uninstall, add files, remove files, shuffle data, etc... the more fragmented your system and system data gets -- not to mention the well known fact that people just hate to shut down or restart their smart phones once a day.

All of this, combined with not factory resetting your phone every couple months will most definitely result in corrupted system data, freezing, and all sorts of other little issues related to the operation of your phone.

I have ZERO issues with the general operation of my phone with 1.6, including all of the factory apps (youtube, maps, navi, etc...), but I also reset my phone every month, reboot at least once a day and am generally choosy about the apps that I do install, as well as keep an eye on and manage the memory-sucking apps that run in the background. All the Glits and glam like multi-touch, apps2sd, live wallpapers, can-opener feature, bread slicer, toaster --meh-- doesnt get my goat one way or another. Im really pleased with this phone the way it is. The update will only streamline, and make the things I love about this phone even better, but I could easily live without the update too.

I am expecting there to be some compatibility issues with 1.6-specific apps when we do eventually upgrade, therefore Im going to dump my stock system.img back to my phone before I upgrade -- start nice and clean.
[Kyocera Zio M6000] s23bog:
Kudos for the attitude.

I am looking forward mainly to the performance improvements, and bug fixes (bluetooth fails to start oftentimes). Apps to SD will be very nice too.

On your critique of other users source of problems, I would like to point out that fragmentation is likely not a problem. Native Linux file systems rarely have problems with fragmentation. The only exception that I am aware of, is if the file systems fills up. But even then, it isn't anything like vfat or ntfs.
[Kyocera Zio M6000] Sorry_8D:
Wow! That's exciting! I'm like some of the other guys in the sense that i have never had one problem with this phone. The update is just icing on the technological cake. Imo.

Sent from my Zio from your Mom's house!
[Kyocera Zio M6000] MagickalShadow:
The main thing I want is Apps to SD and maybe a little better performance running video (I use it to entertain myself when I have long waits when I take my GF to the doctors). Aside from that, I don't really have a serious need for the upgrade.
[Kyocera Zio M6000] Spz0:
Oh no attitude, just honesty.

And the filesystem on these phones fill up very easily as you well know.

My main point was that some users just don't take care of their phones in a reasonable manner. It's just the same as not taking care of your PC by means of scheduled maintenance, registry defragmenting, backup, reformatting, etc. I'd say roughly 90% of the systems I fix on a monthly basis are the result of people not maintaining their PC's. So you can see how smartphones would be worse from a maintenance standpoint, since most people view them as phones rather than computers.
[Kyocera Zio M6000] blackops1125:
Unlimited data, unlimited call to any Mobile carrier, unlimited text... I am sure there are things i am not thinking of, Plus the free phone.... all of that with sprint is $60 a month.
[Kyocera Zio M6000] chrisngrod:
The cheapest plan for most people is 69.99 for this phone. They are throwing on 10 dollars premium data for all smartphones now I believe.

That's 450 anytime minutes and unlimited text, unlimited mobile to mobile, unlimited weekends, 5gb data which they like to call unlimited, unlimited nights starting at who cares....

Cricket throttles you back if you exceed their fair use policy, but they do not cut you off completely. They also won't charge you one arm + one leg for going over.
[Kyocera Zio M6000] Spz0:
Not according to Sprint..

They list the phone for $49, and $99 per month for the lowest unlimited plan (Simple Everything)..

Thats $2425 for 24 a Month Contract (incl. the phone cost).

Cricket is $1320 for 24 Months -- No Contract

Big Difference..
[Kyocera Zio M6000] s23bog:
Check into fragmentation and ext2/ext3. It really isn't a problem. Had filesystems fill up on me completely (0 bits free), and never had any problems with fragmentation (that little bit about potential problems was only hearsay). Windows filesystems are absolutely horrible. So, yes, on typical PC's running Windows, fragmentation is a BIG problem.

On a side note:

Deleted the partition on my SD card and created a linux partition, then formatted as ext3. Gallery comes up MUCH faster. Still doing testing, but I have no idea why I didn't get around to this sooner (especially as much as I despise vfat). I guess just too busy with other things. Last few days, the gallery really pissed me off while on job sites. That, and the camera "preparing SD card".
[Kyocera Zio M6000] cricketkilla:
SUCKAS

U guys just got slapped with a footlong sausage and now you are trying to grab it and be friends with it! Upgrade....update w/e You people believe everything from the people that have lied about it all.. Hey have you looked at the specs on the new ATRIX ..wows now there is a phone
[Kyocera Zio M6000] TakashiMoto:
Ugh, troll fantastic over here doesn't have a clue.
[Kyocera Zio M6000] cricketkilla:
sigh

Troll ..geez what a played out word!

5 min ago man is beyond help....p.s. your mullet still isnt fashionable
[Kyocera Zio M6000] Fate43:
Seriously how old are you like 14? I mean, don't you have better things to do than to be an pessimistic ass on a forum on the internet? It is pitiful that you get some kind of sick joy from that.
[Kyocera Zio M6000] TakashiMoto:
troll is gone now
[Kyocera Zio M6000] blackops1125:
hey i can careless about the update, i got my phone just a month ago with 2.1 and it works great! Now will i take the update, hell yea.... 2.2 is surpose to be 10x faster then 2.1, but we'll see! So far all i have paid for this phone is my first bill which was only $61 bucks (rounded up). Walked in to Sprint store as a Verzion customer, walked out with Zio and a Sprint customer with out having to take my wallet out of my pocket. Just gotta love FREE!
[Kyocera Zio M6000] gregnotcraig:
More fuel for the impatient from Zclusive referred to in the other zio thread):
[Kyocera Zio M6000] MagickalShadow:
Hell no he has nothing else to do. No life, no reason for being, probably not even a girlfriend. So, to get off he comes here and imagines he is smarter than everyone else by pretending to be some sort of hot ****. Anytime someone says something he says "that is so old" or some crap like that yet his favorate word is "geek"...as if that is so next gen.