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[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] potna:
I was within my 30 days when they ordered my replacement evo. This was done about 15 calendar days ago. Now I am out of my thirty days.

They say that they will call me when they get one in stock.

It just occurred to me that if they haven't had one in stock for two weeks for my replacement then they could not have sold any either. Lol

How believable is that?

Something tells me that if I send my girlfriend in to act like she wants to sign contract and purchase an evo, suddenly they will have one in stock.

I might actually do this, with me hiding around a corner until I see that evo that isn't in stock

Bad thing is that I am exchanging this because of the charging issues. I bet my new one has the same issue, if nothing Else they will have more incentive to look at the charging issues...with folks exchanging these over these issues.

Since then, I have got the two 1800mah China bats with chArger and battery hasn't been a problem since. But I'm still waiting for my Damn replacement.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sporkman:
that would depend on when sprint ships them more
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nxtech3:
go to a service center, they have special stock set aside just for them and they are brand new, they dont come in the box but the device itself is brand new.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] potna:
So apparently there is a shortage of evos?

Kinda silly isn't it?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] A_KiD_8o5:
How do I get the 0_in text notification to show up on my windows device center?

It wont show up!

I go to file explorer then to windows then scroll down a bit to see the "0_in.wav" and copy it to my storage card. After that I go to windows device center and look for it there so I can copy it onto my desktop and use it as a text notification on my new phone. But it's not working. :(

Help me please! ASAP!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] A_KiD_8o5:
never mind i figured it out
[Epic 4G General] oxeneers:
Anyone else having creaking coming from the bottom of the phone? The plastic "back chin" on the phone? When I use the hardware keyboard, I'm getting some mad creaking when typing. Anyone else?

(Tried to embed the YouTube video and it's not working.. here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4G_EN4pprQ)
[Epic 4G General] infamousjax:
Very little.
[Epic 4G General] lepapirriky:
Nothing major here either.
[Epic 4G General] ConceptVBS:
Exchange phone?
[Epic 4G General] oxeneers:
Best Buy will think I'm crazy and nitpicking.. which I guess I am nitpicking a little bit but it's seriously annoying me. I had this same issue on my Palm Pre for a while - and they never wanted to take it back. Or even swap me the battery cover. Right now, I've put double sided tape on the area above the speaker to try and use it as a workaround. I'm going to go to Best Buy tomorrow to see what they say. Hmmm..

Or maybe I should just go to Sprint to see if they have an extra battery cover.
[Epic 4G General] volcomjerk:
Seriously... if you exchange a whole phone for this... don't be a jerk.
[Epic 4G General] NeonMonster:
Mine does that too on the lower right area.

The cover creaks because of the way it attaches to the phone. (Set of small clips that you have to pry open to remove the cover).

Wish they made the back a sliding lock cover instead of the pry to remove cover....
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cpl.Garcia18:
I was wondering if there was a way to make titanium backup not ask if we want to install the app while doing a restore. It makes restoring long and tedious. Having to hit install then done on about 30 different apps equals no fun. Thanks
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brandnewsimmy:
The donate version allows for automatic installs. That alone makes it worth it!

Sent from Tapatalk
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zaduma:
So the donate version is really a Titanium Backup and free is Titanium Backup Lite.... woah, I always thought the were the same. Looks like its time to purchase the full version.
[Vibrant General] johnnyh64:
O.k. I'm slow, I just noticed that the Gmail client on the Vibrant does not display HTML emails? What's up with that? Anybody else notice this?

I have installed a lagfix, I'm rooted, have stock rom, new system font and some freshy fresh icons... I also wipe my screen daily :rolleyes:

I'm just confused and need a friend.
[Vibrant General] ttabbal:
It does display html, but not images by default. There's a button at the top of the message to download the images and display then.
[Epic 4G Themes] robl45:
there is a thing under system that shows battery usage. I found a way to drop it on the touch wiz homepage tonight, then restored with titanium and can't find it anymore, anyone know where it is? I think it was a shortcut or something.
[Epic 4G Themes] thematrixkid17:
Long press home screen, shortcut, settings, battery use
[Epic 4G Themes] robl45:
yea, thats in settings, but this was placed on the touchwhiz homescreen.
[Epic 4G Themes] Annihil8or:
Long press any screen > Shortcuts > Settings > Battery Use.
[Nexus One General] cmarti:
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...-owner-sues-google-over-sporadic-3g-speed.ars
[Nexus One General] Blueman101:
whats with the link?
[Nexus One General] Jack_R1:
Google search helped:

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...-owner-sues-google-over-sporadic-3g-speed.ars

Well, if such claim was submitted in a normal jurisdictional system, he'd have his ass kicked out of the court and pay Google instead. In US, though, with McDonalds coffee case and the likes, he might even have a chance.
[Nexus One General] khaytsus:
Gotta love the pentiles, and the fact that this moron paid all those fees rather than getting subsidized by TMobile. And the whole thing is rediculous, did anyone sue TMobile when they were selling the "TMobile 3G" when there was no 3G available on TMobile?

I hope this guy pays thousands of dollars of legal fees and the first judge throws it in the shredder.
[Nexus One General] JanetPanic:
Off topic I realize but, while there are many incidents of frivolous lawsuits in the U.S., Liebeck vs McDonald's should not be the poster child for them. I honestly question the reasonableness of the settlement in the suit and the percent that McDonald's was found at fault for but it was definitely a reasonable case to take to court given the evidence.

From what I have heard FL is pretty bad for 3G coverage on T-Mo outside of a couple of large cities. Making this a class action lawsuit is a bold move though considering he will have to prove his problems are representative of the class (Nexus 1 owners). I do believe that people have problems with the 3G on the Nexus 1, myself included, but not to the extent that this gentleman claims and even then the problems of some are not necessarily representative of the class.
[Nexus One General] danger-rat:
The T-Mo subsidized actually costs more...

If you go subsidized you have to sign a 2 year contract. If you go month by month, it's $20 less a month, which is $480 over 2 years, and then there's tax on top...

Still, it is ridiculous!
[Nexus One General] cmarti:
I happen to live in Orlando, Florida and the 3G speed here is better than the Att and Sprint even on 4G. And I have tested in different zones and see my signature as proof this guy has to be a retarded with no other thing to do or he lives in the woods.
[Nexus One General] khook1061:
I have to agree with you I live in Miami Beach FL and my T-Mobile 3G service is better then my family's AT&T 3G
[Nexus One General] stuff:
So are you telling me that if you didn't have subsidized you wouldn't have a monthly bill from t-mobile?
[Nexus One General] danger-rat:
No?

But I guess it depends on the plan. I have unlimited voice and data, which costs less on a monthly plan than a contract...

My point being, just because someone paid full price for a phone doesn't mean they made a bad choice...
[Nexus One General] nexusdue:
I agree with the person filing the lawsuit - reception on the Nexus One is definitely worse than on other phones.

Holding companies accountable is definitely a WIN for consumers.

I hope this class action lawsuit and the one for the iphone 4 go all the way an make companies think twice about selling crappy phones to consumers.
[Nexus One General] klp45:
I hope he wins. The Nexus one is a very good phone but 3g is an issue for some, myself included. If you're not affected consider yourself lucky.
[Nexus One General] erikiksaz:
I might as well sue ferarri because my potholed streets don't allow my ferarri to exceed 150mph :rolleyes:
[Nexus One General] denimjunkie82:
thats a good one.
[Nexus One General] incredulous:
Thats not Ferarris fault though is it.

Where as the weaker antenna on the Nexus One is Google/HTCs fault.

In places where I used to get 4 bars on my Magic, I now only get 2 or 3 on my N1.
[Nexus One General] Jack_R1:
And the bars represent what measure exactly? Did you compare reception values? I can bet you that there won't be lab results proving any significant reception faults in comparison with any other phone.

And how exactly lack of proper 3G coverage is Google's fault? Just like the bumpy streets are Ferrari's fault? Ferrari is also marketed as "super-fast experience", the analogy is perfect.
[Nexus One General] khaytsus:
OMG FIVE BARZ! MOAR BARZ!

I seem to recall seeing a few phones at one point that had 6-7 bars, I bet their reception was STELLAR. I mean, that's two more bars than 5!

Have I seen my Nexus One data connection get stuck? Sure.. 5-6 times at least.... The indication being that it's trying to send data up, but it's not working, so the up arrow just stays there. After ~30s it'll typically stop for a second then it's fine. Once or twice I've gone into airplane mode, but probably could have just waited a bit longer.

I get varied 3G speeds here, both up and down. 3-4 down, 1-2 up. Sometimes it's 500k down. Guess what; I'm in the mall and AT&T decided to blanket the gigantic mall here in town with ONE HUGE TOWER rather than microcells.

Are there going to be hardware problems or possibly even software/radio problems with specific areas? Of course.

Or maybe I'm just "lucky". I'd rather be born lucky than good looking, as they say.
[Nexus One General] JHaste:
/facepalm... this guy prolly doesnt know **** about the phone...

there have been multiple software updates... how many different radio's are there out there? please... this will never go anywhere and it could be a tmobile problem anyway...

some things he has to prove that its a phone issue and not a network issue; that the results are the same regardless where he is at; that google never made any effort to fix the issue (which they did with multiple radio updates)...
[Nexus One General] bofslime:
This is either a cash grab or the guy is clueless.

I live in Orlando and the T-Mobile service here is simply excellent, in fact its better than Sprint and AT&T in both speed and coverage. I can't tell you how many times I've let my buddy use my Nexus because his iPhone was having issues. My old house in Oviedo (east Orlando) was a complete dead zone on sprint, switched to Tmo and it was fine.

HSPA+ roll out has been fantastic here, I get 2-5Mbit+ all over the city, I'm never without signal and never once has Tmobile messed up on my billing (I had almost constant issues with Sprint, and everyone I know with Sprint has at least had 1 issue.).

Signal between my ADP1 (G1) and N1 was identical at both home and work, and this only improved as updates rolled out.

Bottom line, tmobile services in Orlando are as good as it gets anywhere, and on any carrier, if not better than.
[Nexus One General] incredulous:
My point is that HTC have a radio and build that can give me 4 bars of GSM and in some parts of my house 2 bars of 3G. Thats on my Magic.

On the N1 in the exact same places, I only have 3 bars on GSM and struggle to a bar on 3G.

Nothing to do with the networks signal. The signal is there, the radio/antenna in the N1 is just not as strong.

In the Ferrari example. It is the other way round, Ferrari make a car that can go 180mph, but your local council/highways agency are not doing enough to keep the roads smooth.

The reason Google and HTC would be in the wrong is because they claim it to be better but is in fact weaker.

I still wouldn't be a douche and take them to court over it, you gotta have no life for it to actually bother you that much.
[Nexus One General] Jack_R1:
You still don't get it that the BARZ don't actually represent SIGNAL STRENGTH, do you? And that the phone can show you as many bars as you want, but how it works - isn't defined by how many bars it shows, since there is no standard? And different phones will show bars differently?

Oh well, why do I bother.
[Nexus One General] ChongoDroid:
I'm not sure what you mean by "you" and I'm sure theirs an algorithm for showing how many bars too display depending on how much signal it is actually receiving.. phones use different networks and different antennas so I don't know about an industry standard but I'm not really sure what your asking?
[Nexus One General] blunden:
Still, the bars are just a way to visualize the signal strength and the sad fact is that a manufacturer can define what signal strength equals a specific number of bars however they like.

For a decent comparison, one can only look at the Signal Strength values (measured in dBm) reported in Settings -> About phone -> Status. Any other comparison is meaningless. You also have to compare multiple radio firmwares as some increase/decrease reception noticeably (true for both the N1 and the Magic/MT3G).
[Nexus One General] Jack_R1:
I'm saying that the amount of bars on the phone, when comparing different phones, isn't worth the part of the screen that it takes.

Take an old Nokia "stupidphone", get it to show 0 bars, and try to talk with it. You won't get a thing.

I've been able to clearly talk and pull data over HSDPA while Nexus was showing 0 bars.

Maybe this example explained it better?
[Nexus One General] Jack_R1:
You're right, and even the Signal Strength value isn't the "final verdict", since the radio HW and SW of the different phones produce different signal cut-off values, which means - the Signal Strength value with which the phone can still sustain the call / data going through is different for different HW and SW. Some might cut off at -115dBm, some might still live at -125dBm.
[Nexus One General] peliROJO:
I want in on this lawsuit. My N1 will show 4 bars of 3G and continually timeout in the browser and YouTube app. Then it works, then it timesout. I'm sitting here at my desk. My G1 never did this. FRUSTRATING!!!!

5th replacement also. The last three all displayed flaky 3G reception. In my house where it's normally 2 bars on Edge, the N1 will fluctuate between 2 bars and "no service" while standing still and barely holding the phone with two fingers. FRUSTRATING!!!! I can't even send a text message half the time. I hate that annoying chime that says "message not sent."
[Nexus One General] incredulous:
Why would they use a different algorithm for the displaying the signal if it is the same hardware manufacturer and the same software vendor.

The only reason would be if the antenna doesn't pick up the same amount of signal.

Regardless, as an example, if phone A picks up a signal equalling 75% (I know it is done in decibels but I'm just giving an example.) it should show 3 bars.

If phone B picks up a signal equalling 75% then the algorithm should show 3 bars also.

You are quite simply making up reasons for argument and ignoring the fact that HTC have been making handsets for a long time and are hardly going to forget how to accurately show signal strength.

I will do a comparison when I get home between the signal strength in decibels between my Magic and N1 in the same places and that will be the definitive result.
[Nexus One General] SBS_:
Just to add a little to the bars-discussion.

I've seen that when using CM6 which can display signal strength next to the bar that everything above -90dB is considered 5 bars on the N1 and if it goes lower than that the bars drop _fast_. I think -90dB is a little low for displaying 5 bars, considering I've gotten -60dB in good reception areas and the fact that 3dB less is around half the signal strength (someone correct me if I'm wrong on this last part).

More on-topic I haven't had any problems using 3G/HSDPA except when it's not the phone's fault.
[Nexus One General] Jack_R1:
Because there IS NO 100%, 75% or whatever %! There is no "100%" since the power of a "good" signal isn't defined and depends on the transmitting station antennas and their amount (and different transmitter qualities, and I'm even removing one variable as to counting the distance as minimal possible), and the power of the "bad" signal depends on 18000 things that are phone-specific. The "amount of signal" that can theoretically be caught in the exact same spot depends on antenna construction, the amount of the caught signal in antenna that can be actually utilized for communication is receiver-dependent, and there are several manufacturers, and each one produces more than one device, and the devices also evolve. A completely unusable signal for the phone made 2 years ago, might be perfectly usable for a newer generation phone. So how do you suggest they make an industry standard for it, eh?

The dBm's (and they're not decibels) that you're going to compare are as worthless as this thread, since the receivers in the phones are different - which means, Nexus can show 20dBm less than Magic, and still have better reception.

Before you answer me, please READ ALL I WROTE IN THIS THREAD, so I won't have to repeat things that I've already stated. And you can open Wiki and see, what dBm is, for example - that might be useful. And before accusing me of making up whatever, you should probably educate yourself a great deal in Electrical Engineering, and specifically in RF.
[Nexus One General] OzCDN:
Jack is right ... the comparisons you are proposing are useless.

The only real tests and end-user could do is find a spot where phone A consistently makes calls without drops and phone B repeatably drops calls (or is unable to connect at all). At least this is a practical comparison.

Then you'd need to try a bunch of phones there to see if it is a case of phone A being exceptionally good or phone B being bad.

Once you have all this data (assuming it does prove phone B to be bad) you'd need to prove that the manufacturer has promised a minimum level of service and that this phone drops below that promised level of service.

Good luck with that.

(we won't even go into how you hold the phones)
[Nexus One General] nexusdue:
I knew it: point out any shortcoming on the jesus-phone and the freaks will beat you to death. F'ing trolls.

People wouldn't care about bars if the phone could actually make/hold a call or surf the web. But OMGWTFBBQ(!!!) it drops calls, has horrible voice quality and can't get an internet connection where other phones can! OMG! WTF! BBQ!

It must be the service provider's fault even though other phones work and everything points to the n1's reception as the culprit.

Reception on the n1 is just atrocious! I hope they win the lawsuit and take HTC/Google to task! I will be laughing all the way to the bank if they win and I get a cut of the settlement.

I assume all the fanboys here will decline their cut of any class action settlement? All the more for us that do have problems. Or are you fanboys AND hypocrites?
[Nexus One General] SBS_:
True it's not dB, but the power ratio in decibels from what you measure to one milliwatt. So it's an absolute value and should be pretty comparable even with different recievers. If one device got higher dBm ratings it probably means it has a better antenna.

Not really disagreeing with you here, just pointing it out (sorry if you've already said this)
[Nexus One General] peliROJO:
This is what I've done in my house, except it was only with one G1 and five N1's.
[Nexus One General] nexusdue:
Yup - and I have done it with 3 Nexus Ones, 1 HTC Kaiser, 1 iPhone 3G, 1 iPhone 3GS and 1 Motorola Milestone.

All 3 Nexus Ones svcked compared to the other phones, though some were worse/better than others.
[Nexus One General] peliROJO:
I will say the first two Nexii I had were sufficient in terms of signal (both died of power button failure), the other three have been a pain in the rump solely because of the reception.
[Nexus One General] flarbear:
Differences in how the phones indicate signal strength aside, my N1 is the only phone I've used where it would indicate one (fairly reassuring) signal strength until you tried to use the signal and then suddenly it would cough, sputter, drastically lower the number of bars (and not due to gripping it wrong as I've learned some pretty effective non-blocking ways of holding the phone) and then drop back to a lower technology. These were the original complaints that were lodged against the phone when it was first released, supposedly patched in one of the first OTAs, and while it did get better, has never completely been cured of this issue. The patch seems to have simply added more hysteresis on the switching from 2G to 3G (which is better than no fix at all) but not really made the 3G lock any more useable (and on some occasions I have had the same issues with Edge dropping back to GPRS/no signal).

And it varies by location. Some locations I use the phone it indicates good signal and the signal works well. Other locations it indicates weak signal and yet still manages to transfer data reasonably well. But, some other locations it shows good signal, but can't really use the signal (see above). If I lived in, or frequented, one of those problematic locations I would never have kept the phone, but luckily it behaves itself at home and at work.

All other phones I've had, the number of bars remained pretty constant while idle vs. while using it and the number of bars tracked the usability of the signal pretty well.
[Nexus One General] whoisthedrizzle:
5th replacement? Take a hint? Move where there is actually coverage?

It's not the device.

I regularly have to replace clients' hardware as a gesture of "good faith" for no reason other than the other equipment they're using in conjunction with ours is technically non-compliant, or they flat out lack basic principles of broadcasting, communications, and electrical engineering.

You must be a real pain in the ass to get five hardware replacements. Common sense would dictate after #2 or #3 exhibiting the same behavior it's something other than the phone itself.
[Nexus One General] johnbibbs:
I'll decline. I really don't need the $3.21 anyways.

You realize that CAL's for the most part are useless to the plaintiff's?
[Nexus One General] peliROJO:
That's a fair assumption, but you're wrong. 1) 3.5mm & power button, 2) power button, 3) craptastic signal drops everywhere in the middle of DFW, 4) as in - 4 bars of 3G to GPRS to EDGE to No Carrier and everywhere in between. It displayed this behavior at multiple locations on multiple days and testing with G1 was perfect. I called several times to GSupport, did everything like hard reset, replace SIM, etc., 5) no longer jumps around to G, E, 3G, but as I'm typing this its been going from 2 bars EDGE down to no carrier and back up. Its a friggin' roller coaster ride. And NO OTHER phone I've owned has ever done this. 10 years with T-Mobile since they were Voicestream. You're either lucky, blind, or a fanboy. I'm laying on my bed, my hands haven't changed position, and I'm next to a window. Just went from one bar up to 3 and down to 2. Down to one. It does this all day. If I send a text it almost instinctively drops the signal and says message can't be sent. The only place this phone works "reliably" is at work. 4 bars 3G and it randomly will timeout on apps that require data. E.g. market, browser, IM, IRC, etc. No carrier, one bar, no bars. Friggin' FRUSTRATING!!!!!

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