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[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] br0adband:
Is it possible to power an HTC HD2 without a battery or the back cover? I found one about an hour ago in my downtown area, missing a SIM card and missing the microSD card. As noted it doesn't have a back cover or a battery, so my intention was to attach a "standard" 5V/1A cell phone battery charger. I figured out from a picture of the battery that if I've got the HD2 flat on the display and I'm looking at the back, the positive terminal will be the one on the left but, when I attach the power supply (which I tested before this attempt, it works) leads using micro-alligator clips and push the power button (front of display, button furthest on the right, I think, never used one of these HD2's before) I get no response.

Now, the question is either a) am I not getting any response at all because the HD2 can't be powered up in this manner because there's no back cover or b) it's more likely to be completely toast because of the damage it apparently suffered in the drop that shattered the glass. The only damage (aside from the glass) is a very tiny scrape/scuff mark on the top right corner of the bezel - obviously that's where it hit the ground.

I don't own any of these apparently micro-USB style connectors (or is it mini-USB, I can't figure out which is which I suppose). Bleh, I just looked at a pic I found with Google Images, apparently it IS a micro-USB connector.

All blabbering aside, even if I had such a connector or a power supply using such a connector, is the phone going to even power up without a back cover on it or battery inside? I know a lot of devices become totally disabled when the back cover is removed (as my Dell Axim X51v does; as soon as I even throw the lock switch to unlock the back cover that disables the device totally.

Anyone able to provide some tips or suggestions? I have no way of knowing who it belongs to so I'm claiming it, and if I can verify it might work or does still function I might be willing to put some money into getting the glass/digitizer replaced, a new battery, power adapter, etc.

Anything at all would probably be quite helpful.

Thanks...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shwanz:
The HD2 works without back cover!

The HD2 doesnt work without battery...!! I've never heard of a mod to enable switching it on through micro-usb.

Be carefull you could be scammed...buying a phone in that state, because of the hit some other components may be damaged!! It depends on the price and money you're willing to risk!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DN41:
no problem with powering on without the backcover. did that many times before.

but i guess its not possible without a battery...

DN41
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] br0adband:
Ah, ok, so the fact that there's the two metal 'dots' on the HD2 that apparently become a connection when the metal battery cover is in place don't affect powering it up, but no battery keeps it dead? Hrmmm...

Ok, if someone that owns an HD2 can confirm that it becomes very useful info. Take the back cover off, take the battery out, and tell me if plugging in a micro-USB cable (either from a computer USB port or from the AC adapter) allows it to function at all, and then try the same thing with the cover on (don't put the battery in, however).

So there's 3 possibilities:

1) It'll work off the micro-USB power with no battery and no cover

2) It'll work off the micro-USB power with just the cover installed but no battery

3) It'll work off the micro-USB power with no cover but with a battery installed

and actually the fourth possibility which doesn't matter in my case:

4) It'll work off the micro-USB power with the cover and the battery installed

Dammit I hate it when I find stuff like this and can't get it functional. :)

Again, thanks for any suggestions - and I didn't buy this phone, I found it a few hours ago, on the ground as I was walking home. I wouldn't buy something in this cosmetic condition unless I knew it was working even in spite of the cracked glass. I've owned iPhones with horribly shattered glass on them but they still function, even all the multitouch functionality is still working - that's my hope here, that this device will still work just fine and if it does then I'll pay to replace the glass/digitizer.

Thanks

Edit:

I think I just realized that the metal contacts on the inside of the back cover and those 'dots' could be because the HD2 is using that battery cover as a Wi-Fi antenna, plate-style antenna.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Airborne Aircrew:
I just tested it for you. Without the battery in there is no starting it, period.

Might I suggest though that you ask around and find a mate with a microUSB, (you must have someone that has one), and plug it in when the battery contacts are jumped. It will probably work that way. I'm not going to try it because I have a perfectly good phone and have always mistrusted elec-trickery... :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] samsamuel:
those spring loaded studs have been the subject of much discussion, with no definitive answer,, stop the cover rattling, grounding plate for the antenna, remnants of an unreleased car kit,,, who knows. certainly signal doesn't appear diminished with the cover off, and on the inside of the cover there is no coating on the metal where they connect, indicating a signal being passed so who knows.

i suspect simply attaching power to two contacts isn't enough because the third contact is expecting a signal of some kind? perhaps a connection from the battery charge protection circuits?

you could always buy a cheap copy battery from ebay, and just resell it if it doesn't work, or run a scam on your insurance with it? (did i just say that out loud??)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] br0adband:
I'll say this again: I found the phone on the ground on the side of the street while walking home a few hours ago. :)

I don't use T-Mobile service and I have no intentions of using it as a phone; I already have a phone so I was going to use it as a portable media player sorta like an iPod touch if I can verify it works 100% and just needs a battery/back cover/replacement glass and digitizer. That's my intention at this point.

And I was thinking that yes it won't work at all without a battery so, thanks again for the info. I'll head out this morning to a T-Mobile store (actual T-Mobile and not a reseller) and see what they can tell me. Surely they'll have a battery/back cover and potentially an AC adapter to verify if it's 100% dead of somewhat functional even in spite of the busted glass.

Let's hope it works... ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DN41:
what about searching the owner? :D

DN41
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] br0adband:
Well, let's see:

- I can't power it up

- It has no SIM card

- It has no microSD card

- The only way to track the owner would be using the IMEI and I'd have to go to a T-Mobile store to do that, when that's done and they get the number, if the phone was stolen and then dumped in the trash/on the street where I found it, they call the police and I get in a bit of trouble for no good reason

That pretty much covers it. :p
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DN41:
okay, you're right...

i cant imagine how it landed there...

who would throw it just away?

sure that its a real phone and not a dummy? :D

DN41
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] samsamuel:
i was in a thread yesterday where some guy talked about how he dropped his phone by accident whilst 'driving along with it in his hand, with his arm out of teh window', so yea, some people are , , well, insert your own noun here
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DN41:
oh no...how can you hold your arm out of the windows with a 500€ phone in your hand? :D

i just cant understand some people...that doestn go in my mind...

DN41
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rp-x1:
I thought the same!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sike222:
Not really mate. I found an iphone 4 yesterday and managed to get it back to its rightful owner. Took a couple of hours out of my day but what else could i do?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sam2k:
Well, Yeah, with an iPhone 4 what else WOULD you do if you don't want the surgery to be able to use it! LOL :p

Also think if it was your phone! I'd be absolutely gutted, and very glad to get it back. But maybe it's unregistered (through the IMEI) or not been reported as missing.

In the UK (don't know about elsewhere) if you report that you found something to the police (I found a £50 note) and no one can show that they own it then it's yours after about 28 days. :D

Unless you have really dumb cops then you shouldn't get into trouble if you take it in!

On the other hand you may find the battery and/or cover if you look carefully in the area where you found the phone.

Sam.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sam2k:
I think those contacts are just to ground the back cover to stop it causing interference. It doesn't seem to affect the phone if I don't have it on or am using the plastic cover with my big battery.

On a similar theme, does anyone know if it is possible to power the HD2 from the micro USB supply while I swap batteries. I don't want to have to do a soft reset which loses what you are doing. But I'm worried that without the battery to absorb the power there is a risk of damaging the circuits?

I don't want to just try it because I already blew my main board by powering the USB through a cheep adapter and a Nokia charger that supplied too much power and had I to get it repaired/replaced. I'm hoping someone already knows :confused:

Sam
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] conantroutman:
did we ever get an answer as to why that, im going to select the noun "twat" was dangling his hd2 out of the window @ 40mph??

I need closure on that one.....
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] caz1980:
hi, my display has gone off on my xperia x10 the backlight still lights and keys still light up, but thats all i get, the phone loads and i can still recieve messages and phone calls because i can hear the notifications, i have taken this to a shop who said it was the lcd, so they replaced it, but the phone is still the same, im not covered on warranty because i bought it privatly, i also wondered if anyone knows, when you take th back cover off directly underneath the battery underneath the two screws at the bottom of the phone, something that looks like a long clip in thing, wot function this has on the phone because right at the bottom of mine the plastic has come away abit and i can see gold metal. thanks in advance for any help. also have have done a repair on pc companion and its made no difference,
[Epic 4G General] Firon:
Every so often my phone will hang on standby and refuse to come back. Buttons at the button usually light up, but that's it. Nothing else happens and I have to pull the battery.

Any ideas? I didn't disable any services or remove stock apps. I rooted the phone and installed busybox, but no one else seems to be sharing the same problems.
[Epic 4G General] 2.0t03speed:
The only time i had my epic not come out of sleep was when i was using set cpu. Do you have that installed?
[Epic 4G General] Firon:
No, I'm not using SetCPU. :/
[Epic 4G General] Firon:
Anyone have an idea? :P

Could the phone just be defective? The capacitive buttons at the bottom are always lit up when the phone crashes, but nothing responds.
[Epic 4G General] e3chaos:
happened to me also once. don't know why-- no set cpu
[Epic 4G General] bsnyder217:
Is your phone rooted? I had the same problem when I was rooted just reflash the stock rom with odin it should fix it
[Epic 4G General] Firon:
I am rooted, using the one click rooter (not a custom kernel). I suppose I could just unroot and see if that fixes it.
[Epic 4G General] volcomjerk:
My problems stopped after using setcpu.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ayrton1974:
updated the official rom and hd2 not turn over any sign of life is only recognized by PC as Qualcomm etc. etc. nothing sync anything hard reset bootloader ..... nothing I can throw it in the trash?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] samsamuel:
tmous phone?

official rom that's not a tmous official rom?

if yes to both, then its dead and gone.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ayrton1974:
I ran HSPL3 ok

chucky Rom ok

while installing this rom (_HTC HD2_RUU_Leo_HTC_ITA_1.66.408.1_Radio_Signed_15.30.50.07U_2.06.51.07_Ship)

has stopped and now it is seen from the PC Qualcomm interface has stopped.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] samsamuel:
yep, its dead.

(It is from t mobile, yes?)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ayrton1974:
yes t mobile

but where did I go wrong?

I can repair the phone?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] samsamuel:
the radio in eth rom you flashed has a ..51.. in teh version number. If you read the tmous (t mobile us) section, there are hundreds of warnings about never flashing a radio with 51 in teh version.

No one has yet repaired it, sorry.

Take it back to t mo? (dont tell them you flashed it)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ayrton1974:
I mean if I send it in for service or repair should and too expensive?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] samsamuel:
depends howho honest you are, lots of people have returned them and played dumb and its been fixed under warranty.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Generic112:
So I plugged my Vibrant into Odin to revert to stock. Apparently everything went wrong, and now my phone is stuck at the Phone---!---computer screen. It seems that my phone won't respond to hardware methods of entering download mode, so am I screwed?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] the3dman:
Keep reading on here. This has happened to many people. Keep trying things and hopefully you will get it.

1. Remove SD and SIM card

2. Remove battery

3. plugged the phone into USB (connected to PC)

4. held down vol-up and vol-down

5. popped the battery back in while holding vol buttons
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Generic112:
I've tried that, and many other methods, multiple times already. It seems that none of the volume/power methods do anything for my phone. I'm certain that if hardware-locks do exist for certain vibrants, mine just so happens to be one of them (Date on box is August 13). I just want to know if anyone with a similarly dated phone has ever been able to access download mode without adb.

If anyone knows of more methods, please post them. If all else fails, I'll go complain in my local T-Mobile store that my phone died. I have no idea if that'll get me anywhere, but it's worth a shot.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Generic112:
Does anyone who has had a problem similar to mine know of any fix? By that I mean, has someone who has had a presumably hardware-locked phone ever been able to boot it into download mode without adb? I'd really like to know if I can salvage this thing, or if I have to try my luck with T-Mobile.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zaduma:
Try holding volume down and holding power button and plug in USB while this is happening.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Generic112:
Sadly, I've tried that method as well, thank you though for responding. I will continue trying since it seems not to be a 100% thing for some people. Anyway, for the Volume keys + Power method, can anyone provide a more precise time of releasing power than "When it goes black". I'm hoping my inability to enter download mode is human-error, so I'd like as much input on this as possible. Thanks in advance.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] atoz350:
When you see the " !---> (pc)" symbol, plug your USB in. Hold down volume +, volume -, and power. As soon as the screen turns black release the power button only. Continue holding Vol + and Vol -. You'll enter Download mode.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Generic112:
I've tried that multiple times, but I will continue to try it. It seems as though my phone won't register that buttons are being pressed. All that happens is the phone reboots to the Phone--!--Computer screen every time the power is held and released (As it should). No combination of buttons seems to have any affect on this. Oh well, I'll continue trying and hopefully someone will post a working method.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ViralCipher:
I have the same problem and the hardware button method isn't working and I am stuck at the Phone ! Computer screen, and I read around the forums and they say that some Vibrant's have the hardware method locked, so you can't boot into Download mode from using the buttons. Since adb cannot find the phone when its stuck at this screen it seems we are both screwed. I have found no other solution other than returning it Tmo, not sure if they will exchange since it might be a violation of warranty.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Generic112:
I'm just going to play dumb when I go to T-Mobile. I'll say it just booted into that screen, and I can't get out of it. The hardware lock appears to be a defect, since it's not present on most Vibrants, so that should be able to warrant the replacement phone. I've been with T-Mobile awhile, and they're usually pretty good with replacements. Besides, the phone would be easily fixed if it wasn't broken in the first place.

But before I go to T-Mobile, I'm going to try and talk to Customer Service. If it's a common problem, then I'm sure it can be covered under warranty (Even though MOST ways of getting it require voiding warranty). Again, on the basis that this wouldn't be a big deal if my phone worked like a normal Vibrant. Besides, I'm sure T-Mobile can flash it without requiring the hardware method, so even if they only charge me some sort of service fee, I won't really mind.

As final moral reassurance for myself, I only tried to flash it because apps started FC on me and the phone constantly acted weird. The only thing I've done is root it, so it's not like I really set it up to fail.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ViralCipher:
Let me know how it goes with Customer Service. I would to get this problem resolved as well with the least amount of trouble. I don't want to have a brick and have to pay like $500 for a new phone. And I think the hardware buttons thing might actually be a defect. I tried doing the hardware buttons thing to get to recovery mode once before and it worked. I did this to install an update.zip to root the phone. It only worked that one time and now the buttons don't boot into recovery mode or download mode. It if works once then not again, there has to be something wrong.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Generic112:
I'll be trying them tomorrow (It's 10PM where I am). If all goes well, I'll try and contact you. I'm pretty sure I'll be safe so long as I don't mention rooting it. The firmware flash they'll have to do should help me on that front, so unless they catch on, I should be safe. Anyway, hopefully tomorrow I'll be good news, otherwise expect some post from me on Monday or Tuesday, depending on whether I have the time to deal with them or not.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ViralCipher:
Hey Generic112, I got with T-Mobile customer service. I told them about the screen I was seeing but did not mention rooting or attempting to flash the phone. They said they will replace my phone by shipping me a new Vibrant, but I have to return the one I have. I am not sure if they will do a check to verify if the Vibrant was rooted or not after they receive it, but I will have my new Vibrant before they receive the one I have. I won't know what will happen for awhile because its going to take a week for the new phone to arrive and when it does then I will be returning the one with the phone ! computer problem, unless someone thinks it is a better idea to tell them what happened and have them repair it?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] v_lohith:
I am also struck with the same problem

Hi,

I am also struck with the same problem. Please let me know if you guys got any method to resolve the problem or T-Mobile was able to help.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TMoModder:
This method actually worked for me. I was beginning to think I'd have to build the USB jig, but tried this as a last ditch. Thanks! :D
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Duce HD2:
The above method has worked for me numerous times with the same problem, my old bricked one, and my new one. Try holding down power button as well once or twice, never know. You have to keep the volume buttons pressed the whole time for it to work.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ech419:
In some cases that I've read they say, TMo charged them 600$ for the Replacement after finding out that it was bricked due to hacking. Before replacing try to get it repaired by them.

I would also like people whose phones were replaced to confirm what I've said above.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Duce HD2:
He should be able to get the phone woking again, what happened is not a big deal. If he sends it in the way it's sitting right now, t'Mo's techs won't have a problem getting it working again. (IMO) Especially if they find out the phone's rooted, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets charged.

I bricked my phone so bad, it was beyond recovery. I erased the bootloader, therefore it was completelly dead. No life. I got a replacement under warranty for free, never got charged for it.

My advice would be to try and get to work again before sending it in.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DMaverick50:
Would anyone mind trying on uastring android?

When flash first came out I could watch flash vids on ESPN.com. now I can't, I've tried on stock 91, stock 33, and cyan 6 stable. I can watch if I change ua to desktop but until recently i could easily watch them like any other site. Its sort of annoying. its definitely good I can watch them but its a hassle to keep changing to desktop. I'm stock 33 right now. The vids show up but wont play.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DMaverick50:
Bump. I realize most people around here probably don't know what ESPN.com is so forgive me maybe if I keep bumping, someone who is familiar will happen across this. Thanks
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pwig:
I just tested it and they play fine for me. I am running the latest nightly but I doubt that matters. When I clicked the link it asked me if I wanted to play using double twist or movies. I picked movies.

I could watch in either android mode or desktop.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DMaverick50:
Thanks that's interesting. When I use desktop they work but don't ask what I want to use to play them. Come to think of it, when vids on ESPN used to work for me they never asked what I wanted to play them with. I wish I knew if clearing the browsers data or even wiping the phone could fix it, it would be a hassle but it'd be worth it. Oh well, its always something...thanks again

edit: they work when i have plug-ins set to "on demand", thats good enough for me i suppose

edit: now doesnt work "on demand" after the first time. This phone sure does test my patience frequently.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DMaverick50:
bump, just wondering if any issues watching espn videos have come up for anyone else? Im talking about the full site of course, not the mobile one.

Is there anyway the radio could be at fault? edit- nvm didnt work

Im grasping at straws here its just so irritating that the only website I want to use flash with is the only website I cant.

Im currently running a custom ROM and it still isnt working. Im on frg 33 but espn.com videos stopped working before I flashed it.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adambenjamin:
I am using Dolphin Browser HD and I watch the videos embedded in the page. They work great for me. The Volume buttons are set to scroll initially so you can go to the app settings and change it back so you can adjust volume while watching.