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[EVO 4G General] onehitter:
i have been having issues with the market as well. Also if I search through google on my phone it will not do anything using search button and google web page will not load...
[EVO 4G General] e_heinemann:
I too am having this issue. It just started for me last night. My brother is running stock on his EVO with no problem. I am on CM6 nightly (8/14) with snap kernel 7.1. I am about to flash the new CM6 release and hope that helps...
[EVO 4G General] wesleyorama:
Yeah, I have flashed 3 or so roms today, and I even flashed my radios. I am currently running the stock (yet rooted) 2.2 for the EVO and still can not access the market (or anything else Google related.). I have attempted to get on the market using other phones around the office (Samsung Moment) and they too can not get on.

But, I have noticed that when I turn WiFi on it works like a dream. That is what is worrying me for some reason. I know other phones cant get to the market, but the fact that I can though WiFi makes me think something is wrong with my phone.

Maybe its just sprint...
[EVO 4G General] onehitter:
i think it is sprint because i have a rooted evo here at work and it cannot access anything google. the guy down the hall has an unrooted stock 2.2 evo and it is the same thing.
[EVO 4G General] e_heinemann:
I'm starting to think it is Sprint. A buddy of mine just came to my desk running a stock non-rooted EVO and he is having similar issues.
[EVO 4G General] rgraetz:
I'm having the same issues with gmail and market with stock 2.2.
[EVO 4G General] onehitter:
i should also add that I am in St Louis. I read in the forums at androidforums that 1 guy had this problem and he was in st louis but others did not so it may not be all over.
[EVO 4G General] themandan:
I am in Minneapolis

I too am having the same problem. I do however have data with a 4G connection. I don't know if any of you have that option. I have no GMail, Google Maps/Nav, Internet, AppBrain with 3G but I do have Facebook.

When I switch to 4G I get all of that back. The only problem is that I don't have 4G everywhere I go.

Hope this gets fixed soon. Makes me feel better that I'm not the only one.
[EVO 4G General] boxmander:
I am having the same issues, no google services work, that includes:

Google Talk

Gmail

Google Reader

Google Voice

pointing a browser at www.google.com

All other web surfing works fine, all other data works fine, full bars 3G

Tried factory data resets, 3 different roms

Flashed back to stock 2.2 still nothing.

I can't add Google accounts.

Sounds like basically no connection to any Google servers for any of their services.

Seems like its just through sprint though, maybe not, maybe sprints routers stopped routing traffic to Google for some reason.
[EVO 4G General] bigmoogle:
Same problems -no market/gmail/etc on 3G but okay on 4G. I'm in Baltimore.
[EVO 4G General] TwinsFan:
Same here in St. Paul. I wish this meant the official 4G roll-out was here, but it's probably not even related..
[EVO 4G General] goffmj:
I also wish they would expand it juuuuust a little farther to Eden Prairie. But during the day I work in MPLS, so at least I have some 4G.

Also having some difficulties with pretty much anything Google related over 3G, but everything is gravy with 4G and WiFi. Also noticed this had started happening yesterday.
[EVO 4G General] TwinsFan:
Yeah no kidding. It seems I get a signal everywhere I go EXCEPT near my building. Story of my life :mad:
[EVO 4G General] illogic6:
Having the same issues in Saint Louis. =/
[EVO 4G General] e_heinemann:
I'm in Birmingham, still having the problem, did get Google.com to come up once though, but can't search after that.
[EVO 4G General] pirish1:
I am also having problems in St. Louis
[EVO 4G General] illogic6:
Thinking about calling in and complaining.

I can't get to anything except on wifi. =/
[EVO 4G General] skydeaner:
someone should call in that isn't rooted lol. anyone out there that isn't haha?

Same thing here in central illinois
[EVO 4G General] E-MAC:
Same issues here, started last night. Data on wi-fi works like a champ, anything over 3G that is google related doesn't work at all. I'm in STL.

I think everyone needs to call.
[EVO 4G General] illogic6:
I just talked to a chat support rep. They "refreshed my services" and made me re-provision my phone. I couldn't complete most of the steps being that I'm running CyanogenMod. It was all BS anyway.

They told me that if I still have issues in "a few hours" to call tech support.

They did, however, say there is an outage in the STL area. At least they aren't completely clueless.
[EVO 4G General] e_heinemann:
I tried calling in but call dc'd 10 min into call, ill try calling again tomorrow
[EVO 4G General] ausländer:
Reverted to stock

I was running BakedSnack 1.5 when I started experiencing 3g issues last night. Today I flashed back to a stock rom using the RUU from shipped roms and still had the issue.

Called Sprint Tech support and they had no idea of the issue and actually called HTC with me on the line and they couldn't nail it down past "2.2 is having issues and that is why we pulled the update." By the end of the phone call they [Sprint] decided to mail me another phone so I'm waiting on that and deciding if I should try rooting so I can flash back to 1.47 so I have a usable phone or just waiting for the new one.
[EVO 4G General] kingofslackerz:
Same issues, 2.2 completely stock, St. Louis
[EVO 4G General] Adam1422:
I am having the same issues in minneapolis mn and I called sprint tech support and they want me to do a full reboot back to factory setting. I am also running 2.2 stock. When I said something about it seems like its only google apps they said that they were unaware of the issue and that its probably google or and HTC issue.
[EVO 4G General] Kalvan:
I'm in Minneapolis and have the same issue. Stock ROM, not rooted. Any Google service rarely works on the 3G connection but 4G or WiFi works great. Tempted to call Sprint but it seems like they don't know what's going on.
[EVO 4G General] ogoldberg:
Same problem for me: St. Louis. Guess I can stop flashing different ROMs now :) and just wait it out/call Sprint.
[EVO 4G General] E-MAC:
UPDATE: I called Sprint Tech Support and finally got to Tier2. She said I was one of many people she had talked to with this issue, and the more people that called, the more attention the issue would get. So stop being lazy like I was for most of the day and make the call. :)

It's important that you mention the issues ONLY occur on Sprint 3G, and not with 4G or Wifi.
[EVO 4G General] themandan:
I think I'm going to sit on it for a day or two and see if something fixes itself. I don't really want to mess with any flashing if it doesn't seem to be helping.

I first started noticing it yesterday around lunchtime when I first rooted my phone, but that is just when I noticed it. I don't want to draw conclusions and say that rooting my phone has made it this way.
[EVO 4G General] TwinsFan:
Something messed up is going on. Just took me about 15 minutes to download Dolphin Browser and a theme from the market on WIFI. It's like we've regressed to the days of dial-up. :eek:
[EVO 4G General] teamgreen02:
Having the same issue here in Minneapolis. Wifi is fine, but no Google services on 3g.
[EVO 4G General] onehitter:
in addition to the google stuff, the interent on the phone almost always fails to load pages all the way, probably 3/4 and it stalls out. I can tether through both PDA and wireless tether through 3g and it is as fast as it ever was but google.com wil not load through tethering.

my wifes blackberry on sprint is also having problems loading any searches through google, it just hangs and nothing ever loads...
[EVO 4G General] Westfire:
Same problem here in KC with Google accounts and HTC Weather. Works on the wifis and 4G. Glad to hear it is affected non-rooted users too. Whew!
[EVO 4G General] omadhaun:
I'm also in Minnesota and started noticing Google apps not working on Saturday morning (08-28). I had just installed CM6 and was trying to log my gmail account in (over 3G) and it couldn't connect. So then I tried the Android market and Google maps, and they both had the same issues.

I brought my phone into a Sprint store on Sunday (with a normal rooted ROM on it) and the Sprint rep was confused. He wasn't aware of any issue on the 3G network that specifically wouldn't respond to Google's services. Twitter and browsing the web worked fine when he tried it on 3G.

In the end, he told me to bring it in to a repair center and have them check for updates I had missed. I decided to wait and see if anyone else had this problem before bringing a rooted phone in for repairs. I should call Sprint tomorrow and see if there is a fix yet. Hope it's not related to the 4G testing in Minneapolis...I live about 40 miles north of there and doubt I will get 4G where I live, so if the 4G breaks my 3G services, I'ma be pissed.
[EVO 4G General] touringdriver:
having the same problems here in Lawrence Kansas do any google search and it just idles at searching. can't get into any of my app downloads.

would be nice to receive an email from sprint saying they're aware of the problem and trying to resolve it as soon as possible.
[EVO 4G General] unomar:
I doubt it's 4G related. I'm in Omaha, NE and experiencing the same issues. I can guarantee we're not even on the radar for 4G so it must be something else. Unfortunately I was also flashing up to CM6 final when I discovered the issue. I had to wait until I got home from work to setup my google accounts over wifi. Sprint need to fix this soon...I actually had to search using yahoo today. It wasn't right.
[EVO 4G General] illogic6:
http://twitter.com/matthew_martin/status/22583182661
[EVO 4G General] ausländer:
Sounds like a Midwest issue. In Omaha NE if anyone else wants to post up their location.
[EVO 4G General] helfire1:
2 more EVO's (1 stock 1 fresh) and 1 Pre in the Twin Cities (MN) area (North West & North East) with no google. :(

Buddy uses google nav to get around, was pretty SOL today! :mad:

Android without google isnt much of a phone haha

Call sprint so they know. I called said they are aware of something wrong with google sites/services.
[EVO 4G General] illogic6:
Interesting that it is effecting non-Android devices as well.
[EVO 4G General] siverson612:
I'm having the same issues in the Minneapolis area. I first noticed my phone was having problems syncing on Saturday and it has been getting worse ever since. Before today it worked periodically and I could still get to www.google.com. Now I'm totally cut off from Google services. I went to the Sprint store and they actually ordered me a replacement phone. Now that I see more and more people having the problem I'm guessing I won't be needing the replacement...:D Hope they get it fixed soon!
[EVO 4G General] glock23c:
Happening to me too, started last night, can't access anything over 3G. Champaign, IL.
[EVO 4G General] spantalones:
Blah.

I am also in St. Louis and having this problem.
[EVO 4G General] illogic6:
No Gtalk... So alone... :'(
[EVO 4G General] aweskelo:
+1 =/

no google services, stock rom - everything works on WIFI tho...
[EVO 4G General] captpackrat:
My roommate can access Google Search and Google Maps using his antique Sprint Mogul. I can't access anything from Google on my Evo (unmodified Froyo OTA).

I plugged my Evo into my netbook and fired up EasyTether. I am unable to access Google there either. Pinging Google.com gives 100% packet loss. I tried doing a traceroute and I get:

1 * * *

2 * * *

3 * * *

etc

Why the hell am I paying a $10 per month Premium Data fee if they can't provide even BASIC data?
[EVO 4G General] :
same here... no google services over 3G, but works great on wifi. Springfield, IL -- is anyone outside of the Midwest having these issues?
[EVO 4G General] boxmander:
Also in minneapolis, seems like a midwest thing. Also interesting is that other non android sprint devices have this issue, sprint 3G clearly works, I used it for tethering all day.

sprint needs to fix this, seems odd that google works for everyone but sprint 3g connections.

Something is a miss.....
[EVO 4G General] Hurts Feelings:
it's NOT just a midwest thing. I am in NW Florida and unrooted. I am having the same problem.
[EVO 4G General] Devilicus:
Me too man, I live in Champaign and for the last 5 days or so I haven't been able to get anything over 3G when I'm inside a building. And I had amazing 3G when I moved into my apartment a week ago so I don't know what's changed.
[EVO 4G General] jessesse:
Can't access. That makes 2 for kansas city.. ugh
[EVO 4G General] glock23c:
Seems to be working again for me here in Champaign, was able to open Maps successfully and download apps from the Market.
[EVO 4G General] pirish1:
Just checked mine and seems to be working as well. St. Louis here.
[EVO 4G General] jessesse:
Wow it just started working now out of no where... after 24 hours of pointlessly flashing and reflashing.. lol
[EVO 4G General] TwinsFan:
Working here in St. Paul, MN too..
[EVO 4G General] pirish1:
Even though the 3g is working now it seems like my speeds have gone way down. Has anyone else noticed this?
[EVO 4G General] helfire1:
Working now in st Paul. They would have had some egg on theory face with the epic launch if no one could access Google.
[EVO 4G General] themandan:
Seems to be working for me at some point in the middle of the night. Glad it is up and running. 4g really seems to suck my battery.

Minneapolis
[EVO 4G General] omadhaun:
I'm in White Bear Lake (north of St. Paul, MN) and I am able to get 4G signal as of this morning.

Also, Google services are back up for me on 3G. Wonder what happened...
[EVO 4G General] e_heinemann:
Mine started working at around 11:30 central last night. Was too lazy to post here. Wonder what the problem was. Sprint rep tried to tell me it was google and not them. I highly doubt that as all of the devices that weren't on Sprint seemed to work fine.
[EVO 4G General] venom_762:
Same here, gmail seems to be real slow. I will check back in a few hours.
[EVO 4G General] venom_762:
Market/Gmail issues

I still have to hit the sync now to recive gmail, Princeton, MN. Any ideas?
[EVO 4G General] venom_762:
Seems to working now.;)
[EVO 4G General] dannyxda:
I'm having the problem too

market hates me..

sometimes i get an error at the start of trying to agree to something

and trying to create a google account or login says something

about can't establish a reliable connection. BS.

some idiot geek made it way too hard to simply connect to google for no reason.
[EVO 4G General] zergburger:
I thought it would be a good idea to have a list of the files in system/app that are okay to remove.

Always do a nandroid backup before making changes to your phone. I am not responsible for phones caught in bootloops, synclocks, or any other issues.

The apk's are pretty self explanatory, and the ones that are not, I will try to include a brief description. So please read the list carefully and only remove files you do not use.

This is what I have so far, so please feel free to comment and add any other files that are safe to remove from the stock rom. And also, if you see any on the list that should not be, please let me know.

Thanks.

*names of apks may be slightly different, I will be using the names from stock 2.2*

I strongly recommend root explorer from the market to navigate to /system/data. You should then click on "Mount R/W" to mount the files as readable/writable instead of the default read only. When you are done, click on "Mount R/O" to prevent further changes.

These are some apk's that I'm not sure what they do yet, and not sure if they are "safe" to remove.

These are apk's you should not remove
[EVO 4G General] omegasun18:
there are quiet a few threads containing lists like this. you may search and see what you find thencombine them all into one place for this.

as a note you can also remove Sense, HTC Lockscreen, HTC Location Service, Location Picker & Rosie utility. I cant remember the exact APK names off the top of my head. It will help you get rid of the sense ui if you do. I will look up the APKs and update later

UPDATE

Sense APKs to remove if you dont want Sense

HtcLocationService.apk

HtcLocationPicker.apk

Rosie.apk

HtcAddProgramWidget.apk

Here is the list of system apks from my script i use to remove. A lot already listed but ah well,

delete SYSTEM:app/com.htc.StockWidget.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/Stock.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/Sprint_TV.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/Sprint_NFL.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/Sprint_NASCAR.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/HtcFootprintsWidget.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/HtcFootprints.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/HtcCarPanel.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/HtcClockWidget.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/HtcFacebook.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/com.htc.HtcFriendStream.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/com.htc.HtcFriendStreamWidget.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/LatinIME.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/GSD.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/FieldTest.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/amazonmp3.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/se.laetus.lwp.beziers.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/htcmsgwidgets.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/htcbookmarkwidget.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/htcmailwidgets.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/com.geekyouup.android.wallpaper.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/com.discoverdroid.mystify.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/Sprint_TVWidget.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/SDSA.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/HtcPhotoWidget.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/Morelocale.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/DCSStock.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/IM.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/VoiceDialer.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/HtcTwitter.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/HtcPhotoWidget.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/HTCMobileGuide.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/FieldTest.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/com.htc.TwitterWidget.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/NewsReader.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/com.htc.NewsReaderWidget.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/Flickr.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/HtcRingtoneTrimmer.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/BugReporter.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/logcollector.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/HtcFMRadio.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/htcsettingwidgets.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/WifiRouter.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/FieldTrial.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/RSS.apk

I remove the above on pretty much every rom i use again i remove sense so a lot of these are useless to me.
[EVO 4G General] zergburger:
Thanks for the input. My EVO is at the sprint store right now so I cannot test those out, but I did not want to list Sense apks because some people prefer sense. If you can remember/look at the exact apk names, I will update the OP with a note saying it is needed for sense.
[EVO 4G General] zergburger:
updated list with a few other apks
[EVO 4G General] ausch30:
I have seen a couple other threads like this but most came out when the phone did and I don't know if they've been updated. The biggest thing, at least I think, is that you should let people know what each apk does. I've removed a lot that I don't need like NewsReaderWidget.apk but there are others like TelephonyProvider.apk that I have no idea what it does so I haven't touched it. I googled around a bit but I still haven't been able to find an answer to what it does.
[EVO 4G General] bwcorvus:
Clicker.apk

DebugTool.apk

FieldTest.apk

FieldTrial.apk

I have removed these four without problems. Clicker.apk is for your keyboard calibration, as i use sywpe i remove it.
[EVO 4G General] zergburger:
Updated, Thanks.
[EVO 4G General] nukedukem:
I think Sprint_Promotion.apk is required for *2 to function, otherwise it force closes. If you need that service don't delete it. Maybe you could asterisk that entry.
[EVO 4G General] prjkthack:
Just as a note, you can always use #2, or 611 from your phone and it does the same thing as *2 but doesn't force close. This allows you to remove that Sprint_Promotion.apk without encountering the issue.

And while a list of what's safe to remove would be good, it would also be more awesome to describe what each application does as well.

If I recall correctly:

Mode10Wallpapers.apk - This is the colorful HTC live wallpaper.

MagicSmokeWallpapers.apk - Google's Magic Smoke live wallpapers.

PicoTts.apk - This is the text-to-speech engine for Android.

TtsService.apk - Also part of the text-to-speech engine for Android.

Edit: You also have mail.apk listed twice in your list. XD
[EVO 4G General] AssassinsLament:
I have removed DCSStock.apk, DCSImpl.apk, DCSUtility.apk without issue.

PCSII.apk is needed for adb/usb functions.

EPST.apk is needed for ##DATA#, phone commands.
[EVO 4G General] zergburger:
Updated. Thanks.

For everyone else as well, I plan to have a spreadsheet when this is finished.

Thanks again.
[EVO 4G General] zergburger:
Any other contributions welcome. Just got my phone back from Sprint, so will be doing some more updates as I can.
[EVO 4G General] omegasun18:
com.htc.rosiewidget.tipcalculator.apk - tip calculator app can be removed
[EVO 4G General] zergburger:
Updated. Thanks.
[EVO 4G General] datajosh:
I tried removing HtcIQAgent.apk and IQRD.apk before since I didn't like it always running and it seemed to have no purpose, but my phone never went to sleep, the awake time and up time were the same after that.
[EVO 4G General] zergburger:
I'll make a note in the OP. I will be able to start testing again tomorrow. My replacement EVO got backordered but Sprint told me today that I should be expecting it tomorrow :)

Until then, can you test it out again, make sure no other apps are running?

Thanks a lot.
[EVO 4G General] illogic6:
I am 99% sure you can remove PCSII.apk without causing any problems. It just removed the "HTC Sync" functionality. ADB remains.

I haven't done it with my EVO because I've ran Cyanogen since day one, but I did it with my Hero without issue.
[EVO 4G General] datajosh:
I haven't removed them in a while (before 2.2 came out) but when I did it, I tested it a few times because it didn't make much sense to me. When I removed them, the phone never slept but if I did a Nandroid restore of the system directory, it went back to normal. There were no other app changes at all. I think another app is calling them from what I remember seeing in the logcat. I didn't dig into it too much because it's not that big of a deal to leave them in there. The only reason I tried to remove them in the first place is because IQAgent gave me problems on the Moment, seems to be okay on the EVO though. :)
[EVO 4G General] omegasun18:
i am wondering if anyone would find it useful if i work up a flashable script to jsut remove all the known ok apks?

I have a script i already use that has most of them it shouldnt be ahrd setting up a signed flashable one. I am thinking one with sense and one that will remove sense as well.
[EVO 4G General] zergburger:
Can you make a list of the apk's that are in your script? Would love to compare it to the list in OP.

also updated OP
[EVO 4G General] nvius:
I removed amazonmp3.apk, it definitely is not in my apps as I have checked the ls output multiple times, yet the Amazon mp3 icon is still in my app drawer and still runs!

Any ideas?

Secondly, when I use the ls command in terminal, the output is not in alphabetical order. By default, shouldn't it be listed alphabetically?
[EVO 4G General] zergburger:
Instead of looking at the output can you check the system/app with root explorer or estrongs file explorer?
[EVO 4G General] nvius:
Just checked in Astro and the amazonmp3.apk is definitely gone.
[EVO 4G General] zergburger:
What about amazonmp3.odex (isntead of apk)? Delete that as well if it is still there.

Also check the data/data folder, see if there is any leftover files from amazonmp3. Then reboot phone.
[EVO 4G General] nvius:
Thanks zergberger I'll try that now and see what happens.

*edit* Just searched amazon for the entire contents of my phone and Astro doesn't find anything. This is quite odd...
[EVO 4G General] zergburger:
Go to menu - settings - applications - manage applications - SD card. Is it in there? If so move to phone and delete. Not really sure what is causing your problem but just doing some guesswork.

Also try making a thread in the q and a section. Someone with more experience may be able to help you ^^
[EVO 4G General] nvius:
I just reinstalled Amazon MP3 from the market and uninstalled it and now its gone. So odd but at least its not hogging up resources anymore!

Thanks again for trying to help me out Zerg.