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[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] foxmeister:
Unlike you, I'm not saying that it's a problem - I can manage my A2SD situation just fine, so I don't have a particular issue here.

I'm merely pointing out that blaming the OS for what is essentially a hardware deficiency is both incorrect and pointless, as other manufacturers (e.g. Motorola, Dell, Samsung etc) have shown.

Personally, I still prefer the HTC designs over its competitors, and I fully expect the next generation of HTC devices to correct this design flaw.

Regards,

Dave
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doinbox:
I don't think this problem will ever be fixed properly. The only way is as someone said earlier, that the device has more internal memory.

And as pointed out it is the device manufactures fault. Even if everything could be installed and saved to SD card without a problem. Why would you put less than 200mb internal memory it surely wouldn't have upper the price of the phone much even at 2gb. It makes no (sense-u-i-diots)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] freakzone:
It's not a personal issue for me either, I don't use fart apps.

I blame the firmware, because on winmo OS you can install perfectly fine whatever you want, wherever you want.

Since there is an OS which uses the same hardware design (winmo) and doesn't have a problem, and then we have another os on the same hardware design, which has the problem, I think I can logically and rightfully conclude that the problem is with the os and not with the hardware design.

The hardware design is perfectly fine for other mobile os but insufficient for a particular one? And then the hardware is the problem?

Mine or your problems are irrelevant, there are thousands of people affected by the "not problem". Conclusion of the type "I don't have a problem with this than it's not a problem" is narrow minded.

First I got a piece of crap phone and now I find out the borg section of xda is the exact opposite of the other :D with a particular type of mentality which would have been just right for other places.

Anyway thanks for your toughts
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doinbox:
Yeah but I could buy a 1gb mp3 player for £2.00 so why be shy with the internal memory?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] freakzone:
they could have put a 12mpixel camera, keyboard, 16 gig internal memory, dual boot os, dual core snapdragon, but they didn't
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doinbox:
Your being a bit silly now.

Next you'll be telling us they cud have put a toaster in it.

Is it past your bed time?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kazgor:
This issue was noticable when i moved from the OmniaHD to the Desire.. with the Omnia you could choose where to install the apps.

What i find more annoying though is with 14megs still left on internal, things like Mail, Weather, GMail, Market (can't download or install) just stop working.. so you dont really have 14megs to play with you have ZERO.. unless you dont care about those apps.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] foxmeister:
And that would be incorrect.

You actually got to the core of the problem here:

Android is not WinMo and WinMo is not Android. Using the same hardware reference platform for both is just a cost saving exercise, and fundamentally incorrect. Since the Desire is effectively HTC's 3rd generation Android phone (previous generations would be the G1, and the Hero class devices and all other HTC models would fit in to these classes), you would think that HTC should have learned better.

Design the hardware to suit the platform - not the other way around. Incidentally, this is *exactly* the process that MS are going through with Windows Phone 7, with their very specific hardware requirements.

Regards,

Dave
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] freakzone:
It was sarcasm, but you don't seem to be able to catch it

@foxmeister - then when you buy a desktop, I take it you buy 1 for win, 1 for debian, 1 for fedora and have 3 of them, or you just get one which is alright for the 3 of them??
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] foxmeister:
Strawman argument I'm afraid.

First of all, we are talking about phones, not desktop computers here. Desktop OS's are designed to work with a much wider variety of interchangeable hardware components, and a phone OS is not.

Secondly, and more importantly, can you run WinMo on a Desire, a Dell Streak, or a Galaxy S? No - you can't, so your comparison is deeply flawed, because on a desktop I can run any of the OS's you mentioned.

Regards,

Dave
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phiit:
Not true/true, depends on the apps developer if he/she adds that option on the code, surely in not so distant future all apps will have the option to be installed to SD, but for now it's not so common yet
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndroHero:
how are htc stupid? if anything your stupid, you still have a htc phone? they have made there money off you, and your the one sat here moaning about the quality of there product :confused: how are they stupid? there making hundreds of millions of pounds a year, and your are one of the people buying there hardware. lol and when you are bored with the desire your going to buy a new htc phone, regardless of its flaws!! yet again i dont get stupid from that busness plan lol
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] freakzone:
yeah desire and hd2 are much different hardware
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hwoarang626:
1st they said it will have 512 internal memory ,,, how can i know that 512 includes system files and system programs and every thing ,, when i got the phone i knew ,,, well im not that smart as you know every thing before you buy the phone hahaha
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] foxmeister:
So, why hasn't WinMo from the HD2 been ported to the Desire then? ;)

And regardless of this, your statement only serves to prove my point about the hardware platform - if the Desire had more internal memory than it's WinMo cousin, this conversation would be moot.

Simple facts are:

Samsung Galaxy S

Dell Streak

Motorola Droid X

HTC Desire

One of these phones has a very low amount of internal storage, and the others don't. 3 of these phones don't have a WinMo cousin, and one of them does.

Even later HTC designs (such as the Incredible and the EVO) have more internal storage than the Desire.

Just because WinMo allows all apps, in their entirety, doesn't make it superior to Android - it just makes it different. iOS doesn't support SD cards at all, and yet application space is not a problem because the hardware and software were designed to complement each other.

Yes, Google *could* have made it easier to support apps on SD card, but the whole point is they shouldn't need to if the hardware is up to scratch. Internal flash memory is way faster than SD cards (which vary in speed considerably), so the whole user experience is likely to be better if applications are kept internal.

Regards,

Dave
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] freakzone:
It's really good that our ancestors didn't have your and android community's type of mentality otherwise we wouldn't have had electricity at all, let alone PCs or smartphones for that matter.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] foxmeister:
Sorry? Rather strayed off topic there haven't we?

You have an opinion, and I have an opinion, but because mine differs from yours, and because I can defend my opinion with *solid* arguments, you resort to puerile personal attacks.

I have no need to make any sort of comment about *your* type of mentality, since you've clearly demonstrated it yourself.

Regards,

Dave
[HD Mini Themes and Apps] mrjx:
How can install skype and fring for my HTC mini?

Thanks
[HD Mini Themes and Apps] kalros:
Skype no problem.

www.skype.com
[HD Mini Themes and Apps] tzacapaca:
skype removed the cab for windows mobile from their site,as they dont support WM anymore...but you can search for cab here or google it
[HD Mini Themes and Apps] kalros:
Download link.

http://www.ulozto.cz/5707382/skypemobile.cab
[HD Mini Themes and Apps] vlachaquito:
hello.

I was trying to install fring to my mini, but had some serious resolution problems. In fact i cant put my user name and pass.

Does anyone know how to fix this problem??
[HD Mini Themes and Apps] cuonganhstyle:
me too..

install Skype ok

but can't sign in...

Pls help// tks
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] WhosJose:
Hey all,

As you can see I'm new to the community and I had a few questions. I wanted to build my own android build, but I don't know where to start reading. So I'm asking for any tutorials on the web in where I can start off at.

I saw a few builds and was shocked on the creativity. I have a spare HD2 so I'm willing to play with it a bit more :)

I also wanted to know if there is a IRC server/room that I can connect to and perhaps get more involved in the community

Anyways thanks for all your help:)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] niiza:
knowing a crap-load of linux is probably the best place to start @_@ and im pretty sure you have to know how to use the Android SDK, but im not a pro or anything @_@ maybe ask in the other forum, the development forum.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] WhosJose:
Well I know a bit of a linux and haven't read up on the Android SDK. I know that it's a start but wanted a bit more information on the topic before anything.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Freedomcaller:
so there seems to be a few issues that can cause a video out cable to not work. the first is the pin assignment on some cables are different (eg, ipod)

that seems to be covered here.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=741542&highlight=RCA

but after ripping apart a cable and re-soldering it in every possible way it seems there is another issue. it seems some cables have some sort of box or something in the middle of them like this one.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000S0GXIA/

on the other hand some don't, like this.

http://www.amazon.com/6FT-Camcorder...4?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1283148966&sr=8-4

a common trend I'm noticing in the forum is that all the links to working ones seem to have this box, also in a search on ebay for galaxy s video cable almost all the results had a box.

so 2 questions!

1) if you had a cable that did or didn't work please post whether or not it had a box. and if it didn't or did work.

3) wtf does that box do?

unfortunately the 2 cables i have both don't have the box, but they both had the correct pin assignment. and id like to get the one i cut up to work. so plz helpppzzzzz!!!!!
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] snapper.fishes:
Why on earth couldn't you just get the Nokia one in the first place?
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Freedomcaller:
i had 2 already sitting around my house, but i just ordered a nokia one....

i hope it works :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Roy Ngan:
sorry, which box are you referring to?
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] moosamm:
I just received a 3.5mm to RCA cable without a box and it doesn't work. :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snJUU4rE7X4
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] cyanide1973:
I have a cable from a lg portable dvd player with no box and it works same with one from a sony portable dvd player.I have the bell galaxy s.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Freedomcaller:
is there anything on the cable other than straight wire? like a hard plastic cylinder or something?
[HD2 General] atif0414:
My htc not turn on anymore after installing rom. i know i did install the wrong rom but can anyone help me with steps. I am nothing without that phone so please help me out.

Here is one guy who has the solution but i m not sure how to do it? ( i have tried to contact with that guy but he didnt reply thats why i m asking for ur help if anyone know please help me out) can u also tel me where to find that RUU_signed.nbh? THANKS IN ADVANCED!

- Download a shipped Rom (I can't post links as I am new here, PM me and I will give u that info from where to get stock ROM)

- Rename the extension to .zip

- open it with winzip and extract the RUU_signed.nbh file to a folder

- Rename it to LEOIMG.nbh and copy it to the root of a microSD card thats been formatted to FAT32

- Insert your storage card into your phone

- Enter Bootloader and follow onscreen instructions to flash
[HD2 General] atif0414:
how i supposed to do these steps

when my hd2 is not turning on?

09.) Open MS ActiveSync\settings and disable USB connection.

10.) Take out sim card and storage card from your device.

11.) Next put your device in bootloader (volume down button + Power button) and connect to your pc.

12.) Open MTTY in the directory where you have copied it C:\Recovery\.

13.) Port you choose 'USB'and press ok.

14.) In the window that follows next type 'Task 29'(without the quotes) and press ENTER.

15.) MTTY will give you some errors in next Window but please ignore.

16.) Next disconnect your device from USB, take battery out and put your storage card in.

17.) Put battery back in and put the device in bootloader and follow the onscreen instruction to flash.
[HD2 General] gaarry:
You might be screwed bro. Send it in the T-Mobile for a new one, since you can't turn it back on, they can't tell if anything had been modified.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Carmamir:
I using SchubCRAFT 1.4d, I allow to move applications on SD card and choose default external destination for all new installations.

But it doesn't working :/ when I'm trying to move something I getting "Application not installed" if I trying to move something I just getting "Move failed", no information, no reasons. Card 7.2GB class 6, it worked normally in HTC Desire so it must be problem with setting on froyo on HD2.

What I can do to use SD for installations ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ElGrande:
Hello everyone,

sorry, I couldn' find any clues on this one, so I open this new Thread.

Is it a big difference on how long my Kaiser can Run between WinMo 6.1 and WinMo 6.5 ?

Is it like some Minutes or some Hours?

Thanks for Answers
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] stylez:
Moved as not ROM Development.

Resources\Services = power hence there is more going on with a 6.5 ROM than a 6.1 to which equals more power drain.

No one will be able to give specifics as so many variables such as radio what programs you use how often you use data..... etc.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Cinabnett:
No matter what WMO ROM I am running or no matter what Android platform I try to run Android will not boot a 2nd time. on the Linux bootscreen it says:

"Failed

Failed to find rootfs on SD card. You need to unzip a rootfs/bin/sh: Can't access tty; Job control turned off"

What do I need to do?!?!

Please help me...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] z33dev33l:
shubcraft has a fix for this in his thread, if that doesnt work shift the android files all tothe root of your SD card, I'd reccomend shubcrafts fix first though, hes deff more knowledgable than me.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] PhoneConnect247:
You moron why would you double post when both topics are on the first page. Mods please close
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Agoattamer:
Read the readme file that came with your build. It will probably say something like extract the android folder to your card. Sounds to me that you took all the files out of the android folder and put them on the root of your card.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] strikernl:
Delete the Android/ folder in your SD root (or rename it if that makes you feel better). Will boot again after that. And yes, you will have to do that every time you want to boot Android.

Had the exact same problem yesterday.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nocturnalviethustler:
this happen to me too then i took it off my sd and put it back on and i got this error message

The file 'CLRCAD' cannot be opened.Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate,or on of its compenents cannon be found.If the problem persists,try reinstalling or restoring this file

and

The file 'haret' cannot be opened.Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate,or on of its compenents cannon be found.If the problem persists,try reinstalling or restoring this file

any one knows how to fix this?
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] TechGuru_x10:
Anybody know any app to calculate blood presure. Pls let me know.
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] charlie42:
Mmmm actually it cannot be calculated with your phone ;)
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] Chewitt:
as above its imposible for the handset to do that, you might be getting mixed up with the app that was recently on the main page of the market that can check your pulse using the light going through your finger and mesuring it via the cammera.
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] TechGuru_x10:
Actually that made me believe into getting result for bp.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] razvan11malancus:
Hello everyone and sorry for starting a new thread with so many threads already about installing custom ROMs. So sorry again....

First of all I want to say that I have installed Saturday my first custom ROM.

1. I installed HardSPL

2. I installed ROM (I got an error first time because my usb got diconnected - tricolour boot screen and an error code - could not see it; second time everything worked fine and I have now a new great looking ROM :)

3. I did not installed Radio.

1st question: Do I have to install Radio everytime I install a new ROM or is it ok if I keep my old Radio

? - the phone works just fine.

Second question:

Do I have to HardSPL everytime I install a new ROM?

Please be kind and reply to my questions even if it must have been already posted in some thread.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] universil:
rarely can i answer a question but yours are easy LOL

You don't need to do your radio because the radio you have is untouched by roms.

Likewise if you do a radio it wont change your rom.

Radio's probably will not make much diffrence.

Once you have Hard spl it is done.

You can then flash as many roms as you want , but Hard Spl is just once :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] scooper:
No and No. ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] razvan11malancus:
Thank you guys.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] redpoint73:
The radio is stored on a different part of the memory then the ROM, so it doesn't get replaced when you flash a ROM (unless the ROM specifically includes it, like the new "official leaked" ATT ROM). And custom ROMs will never include the radio, that I know of.

A newer radio version MAY get you better battery life or GPS reception. But it can be very specific to your geographic location. It your choice whether to update your radio or not, its certainly not required. If you want, you are free to experiment, as you can always go back to the old radio if the new one doesn't work out. The process for flashing a new radio is essentially the same as flashing a ROM, except the actual process if done very fast.

As already mentioned, you only need to HardSPL once. The only way phone will become SPL locked back to factory condition is if you specifically do so using the provided relocker program on the SPL thread (for instance, to return the phone for warranty repair).
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] on1ydabest:
**BEFORE ATTEMPTING THESE TWEAKS PLEASE SAVE A BACKUP OF YOUR ORIGINAL BUILD.PROP SO YOU AN REVERT BACK TO IT IF NEEDED**

While during a little research on data, I came across this post in the G1 forums

Basically, by deleting this out of your build.prop

And replacing it with this

Your data throughput SHOULD increase dramatically. I say should because I'm not able to test it out right now (long story short, my phone fell in some water :mad:).

If you wanna test it out I have attached a build.prop that I modded. Please let me know the results.

Additional Tweak:

As an additional tweak you can also change the pppd DNS settings in the build.prop. If you scroll all the way to the very end you will see this

These are Google's DNS settings. Some providers don't allow DNS servers other than their own. You can change this to your provider's. For example, here is TMOUS settings

Now this tweak has very mixed results. It never worked for me but I have read many others are using it successfully.

Also please note that you may have to REBOOT TWICE in order for these tweaks to take fully.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] osokrayzay:
Awesome!!!!

Shubcraft stock froyo
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] on1ydabest:
Glad to here it works!!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pongster:
That looks interesting... will try it out tonight. :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tinuz97:
I just did this,how can i test it? Linpack? quadrant?

Thx for the tweaks ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] aarons6:
speedtest.net has a free app in the market
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] aarons6:
i didnt get any speed increase, im getting about .8 to .9 Mbps with H and .5 to .6 with 3g
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tinuz97:
Also no speed increase for me with vodafone netherlands.....
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] LondonTownGuy:
Increased from 325kb/s to 956kb/s using RMnet.

PS. the modded build attached 'appears' to be original not modded.

many thanks for tip.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] on1ydabest:
Just added the correct one thanx!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] on1ydabest:
If you used the attached build.prop before try it now. I had attached the wrong one.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] FriedSushi87:
This slowed down my speeds....
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] on1ydabest:
Would you mind giving us some details on your setup, such as:

What area are you in?

Which build you are using?

Which radio you using?

Which windows rom you using?

You speeds before and after the tweak?

This can be useful for other people. Thanx.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] aarons6:
tested with the new file, it seemed to have gotten slower..

it wont stay on H now and my speeds are .5 to .7 instead of the constant .8 to .9 i was getting.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] widmer:
I tried doing this this morning. I lost all data, rebooted many times with no luck. Had to revert back to org build file. This was using the new shubCraft 1.5 CM6 build. Didn't try it with my DarkStone V2.1 build that's in my sig tho.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] clivemilk:
it is work for me

my setup:

shubCraft 1.5 + latest zImage (31 Aug)

2.12.50.02

Energy ROM
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] FreakyFerret:
Anyone else do any further testing with this?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Bingoig11:
Just tested after 2 reboots:

Old config:

Down 1.73Mb

Up 0.57Mb

New config:

Down 2.02Mb

Up 0.23Mb

Tests have been performed at the same place...

That's not what I call a big increase, it's more worse than anything.

Back to old file after performing a new test in a place where the signal is better.

Mattc 1.8 with Hastarin 7.1 kernel

Radio 2.12
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nova hands:
I tried this on my TMOUS HD2. Check my sig for details on my setup.

Basically, it didn't work.

After making the listed changes, I had a functioning web browser, but web apps didn't work. Market, PDA Net, and Speedtest.net apps did not connect. Couldn't do a speed test.

Any ideas?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rafpigna:
Most of the builds already have the tweaks built in.

Anyway guys, you couldnt exchange your build.prop file so easly.. Basicaly any chef could make some tweaks in it that are build-dependant. If you exchange your build prop you could lost all the tweaks or, in some cases, you will not be able to boot anymore....