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[Droid Incredible Android Development] rmk40:
Yes, you can upgrade without wiping.

If there's ever a need to wipe I'll make sure it's clearly noted and thus far nothing has necessitated it. I can't see anything ever necessitating it unless we get a new full release from HTC and have to re-base the ROM.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jasonb1985:
awesome! thanks!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] parcou:
I am new to DRIOD but have been a Windows device users for years always running custom roms on my Touch Pro & understood well the roms\cooking. I am also techie so I will keep reading on this new platform to understand more about Unix which is new to me...with that being said for new people like me who might be interested in a kernel update but just lost at where to start any wiki links where I (we) can get up to speed about the kernal, hboot, etc.?

I must say as a contributor $$ to your work I have 100% of what I wanted...a stock DINC but clean rom without all the VZW crap. So thx... but as a guy who owns a 77 Chevy SS car with a killer 350-engine I always like a little more power if possible so this is why the kernel interest me if I possibly could be missing something better...just a bit lost :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] cortland1998:
The update doesn't give the error anymore. Thanks.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] samwathegreat:
rmk40,

Jd told me to tell you that you're a meanie. Ha sorry couldn't resist

(j/k)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] itisjustme:
RMK I just reinstalled it two more times and I still get the error.

I am using HBOOT .79
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bmwzero:
Just installed the custom kernel and received no errors on install. I am on hboot .92 as well.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] nat4mac:
Great ROM. Thank you!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bmwzero:
itisjustme: In Rom Manager, did you try the "Clear Download Cache" menu option? (Open Rom Manager, Press Menu). I'm not sure exactly how the download cache works but it seems possible that it has saved the previous version of the kernel and isn't re-downloading it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] WhammyDroid:
Could you please list all of the specific apks you removed?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] texanaustinite:
Switched to this rom to see if secondary Gmail accounts actually sync. They do!

Could not get them to sync with skyraider or frankenrom.

Great work rmk40!

Running smooth on KiNgxKernal too!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] TCommander:
Delete this.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] TCommander:
LauncherPro works great on my sense b ased ROM and basically makes sense pointless. That said this ROM is awesome because of the charter that rmk is working from. Everything is smooth and stock-ish so it's the only ROM I've run but never used Sense from the start. LauncherPro paid for version has all the scrollable widgets Sense has and better development support.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rayporsche:
Awesome ROM !!! currently running with S-OFF, 2.15 radio, 92 HBoot and 2.6.32 Hydra kernel..........super smooth, fast, everything works and not one single reboot !

Thanks rmk40.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] texanaustinite:
Same here. Though, I actually 'de-sense' all the 'sense' based roms I've used.

There are some aspects of stock that I do like. I actually like the camera and the stock messaging.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Crimton:
i'm having a problem getting gps to lock on to my location, its saying accurate to within 3500 meters. i installed the rom then the theme and then the new kernel. i may revert back to stock kernel unless there is a fix for this.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] eckwheet:
Has anyone experienced fc's with HTC gallery when not in landscape? Video app the same. Any suggestions? Everything else for me works flawlessly. This has been a very stable rom so far. Great work.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] WhammyDroid:
So, it is safe to install both the custom kernel and the voice search fix #2?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] heliotropeUCSD:
Desensing

I'm on this bandwagon as wel. I LOVE the deodexed rom with LauncherPro. Seems.... snappier, somehow. Anyway! In no particular order, here is the full list of APKs that I removed to effectively "desense" Virtuous 2.6. It is the only ROM I even consider using, so big thanks to RMK40.

I have also brought over a modified notification window and icons from rEVOlution, but I actually sort of like the stock lockscreen, and don't want to overly theme anything else. I also put a Helvetica font in as the system.

If anyone knows any other APKs to remove safely, please let me know. Everything functions perfectly on my phone with this removal list.

com.htc.TwitterWidget.apk

com.htc.WeatherWidget.apk

HtcAddProgramWidget.apk

HtcCalculatorWidget.apk

htcmailwidgets.apk

htcmsgwidgets.apk

htccalendarwidgets.apk

HtcClockWidget.apk

htccontactwidgets.apk

HtcSyncwidget.apk

HtcRingtoneWidget.apk

HtcRingtoneTrimmer.apk

HtcPhotoWidget.apk

Rosie.apk

PluginManager.apk

WidgetDownloadManager.apk

teeter.apk

amazonmp3.apk

HtcFootprints.apk

HtcFootprintsWidget.apk

HtcCarPanel.apk

CityID.apk

Quickoffice.apk

Stock.apk

com.htc.StockWidget.apk

VVM.apk

VZW_Skype.apk

VzNav.apk

Calculator.apk

HtcTwitter.apk

/system/etc/CDROM.iso
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Crimton:
Gps is broken for me with both kernels, any ideas?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] lilsalmon:
Stock Dialer...

Does anyone know of any way to switch to the stock dialer on the Virtuous ROM?

I have been searching and searching about how to accomplish this with no luck... I know if I run Cyanogen's Rom I will get a purley stock OS which would give me the stock dialer, however I love a few of the Sense options like the Facebook photos in contacts and messaging etc.

I would also love to go to the stock messaging app which I tried to do via ROM Manager and the add on for Virtuous, however nothing happen upon reboot.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

-Lil'
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Studmf:
GPS will not lock on with new kernal :(

** well it did lock on, but it took about five minutes to figure it out.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Crimton:
i went back to the stock kernel still not locking on.

It finally did

after about 5 minutes
[Droid Incredible Android Development] k_flan:
I just went outside and tried, got a gps lock after about 2 minutes. Running the alt kernel. Wish it was quicker, but it did lock.

sent from xda app
[Droid Incredible Android Development] anicotra:
It will always take longer the first time.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] dezoris:
Anyone having issues with auto rotation being really slow and flaky?

I re-calibrated G sensor and it does not matter.

A reboot seems to fix it but after a few hours it becomes almost unresponsive again.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] srt4mn:
Everytime I restart my phone, the data does not work. I have to switch to airplane mode, restart the phone, go out of airplane mode, and then data starts working. If I shut off my phone again, data won't pop back up. Anybody know how to fix that?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Studmf:
+1 tried it again and it locked on immediately. I was a bit concerned at first.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] fammy2000:
I had a similar issue with the stock 2.1 ROM. Unfortunately, I had to wipe it clean to get it working again.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rmk40:
I'm 100% certain ROM Manager was using a cached copy. I changed the name of the file to make sure this doesn't happen anymore, so give it another try and please report back.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rmk40:
Yes.

Which radio are you using? Sounds like you're not on a 2.x radio is why I ask.

Same question as above. What version of radio? I've been having great success with the latest 2.15 leak Adrynalyne posted but even the official OTA version is fine.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] WhammyDroid:
O

Which of these are the sense specific apks?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] WhammyDroid:
RMK,

The only issue I have noticed with the 2.15.00.7.28 radio is that WiFi does not always scan initially to find a known network when using the power control widget. I would have to go onto settings > wireless > WiFi settings to get the phone to find a network.

I am going to try the 9/1 2.15 radio to see if that helps but wanted to let you know.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rmk40:
You guys can obviously do as you please in terms of removing even more than what I am offering but please do not ask for support if you do so. I spend a considerable amount of time testing that the removal options I provide actually function and would prefer to avoid chasing issues associated with modifications made outside of that.

With that said, the easiest way to make another launcher the default is to use Home Switcher from the Market, which is free. I liked the features of Launcher Pro but could not get the responsiveness out of it that Sense's launcher provides after having added all my widgets.

This is all very off-topic by the way. :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] dixonraj:
Anyone notice Wireless Tether is slower in v2.6?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
Charging Time / GPS

Anyone know if Virtuous 2.6 suffers from the 'longer than it used to take' charging issue (same hardware, stock radio, but 2.1 [with stock 1.x radio] charged in 2 hours; 2.2 [with stock 2.15 radio] charging in 5)? Does the Virtuous Kernel fix this type of thing?

Also, anyone having issues with GPS lock taking 'longer than it used to take' (same hardware, but 2.1 locked onto GPS in seconds; 2.2 taking 2 minutes). Does the Virtuous Kernel fix this type of thing?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] heliotropeUCSD:
Agreed

Couldn't agree more.

RMK40 has made something amazing FOR SENSE.

I personally like to strip things a little thinner, but I know that I'm in my own hot water if anything goes wrong. Also, that list i posted should absolutely not be taken as authorized by RMK40 or even as accurate. Use at your own risk.

I can say that in my experience, Virtuous is the best ROM by far both Sensed and Desensed. I find LP to be equal in snappiness for MY configuration as with sense- ymmv.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] heliotropeUCSD:
PM

PM me for details. Don't want to get the thread off topic.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Devildog8791:
FM Radio

I noticed that if I uninstall FM Radio through EZ Customizer, when I get back and try to add any widget to the homescreen, there is a weird listing in the widgets. It is something like "fffff" and underneath it says "HTC". It's kind of like the FM Radio choice is still there, but when you select it, it shows a force close message.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gwallers:
clear HTC sense cache in apps should fix the widget problems
[Droid Incredible Android Development] srt4mn:
I am on the 2.15.00.07.28 radio. I'll try the newer leaked one to see if it's any better.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tmellen:
I'm using Virt 2.6, Adrynalyne's Kernel, the voice fixes, EVO Camera and MMS, and Adrynalyne's Stagefright Fix.

Before the new kernel, running Slacker while charging the phone would pretty much keep the battery where it was. If I started at 50% charging, and listening to Slacker, after an hour, I was at 55% or about there. With the new kernel, charging flies, and I can fully charge while "slacking". Oh yeah, and battery temp stays between 32º and 38º for me, even while charging and listening to music at the same time.

I'm not having any GPS issues either.

I love that setcpu now runs on boot without having to disable perflock, too! My phone is finally pretty much everything I want.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] JeeperDon:
This was the higher level point to my argument a couple pages ago. There is way too much talk and suggestions and pointers to doing user level alterations to the Virtuous releases. This thread should get back to the core, to announce and discuss the Virtuous ROMs. Please stop the, "Guys, if you want to dork it up this way or that, click here.", which of course then begs the subsequent, "I tried that and it didn't work for me." replies. Start another thread please.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] JoeyBert:
can a ROM alone really make an impact on battery life?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tmellen:
Sure can.

More importantly, a ROM & Kernel combination can have a huge effect.

Altered ROM's can give the battery a break by killing unnecessary programs or services that are always running and keeping the cpu running faster, requiring more juice from the battery.

Kernels can control how the battery charges, what voltage to use, etc... and in turn control how fast it charges, or how fast it discharges when in use.

Together the two of them can slaughter your phone, or give it the gift of everlasting life (or at least a full day's charge).
[Droid Incredible Android Development] JoeyBert:
Cool, thanks. Initially someone else told me a ROM has little do to with battery life. Then I read someone in this thread raving about this ROM and great battery life so I had to ask. I haven't found the perfect combo yet. My battery is suffering.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] itisjustme:
That too care of it just fine. Sorry for missing the obvious.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] OSully:
This guys a real stick in the mud, huh?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] itisjustme:
I whole heartedly happen to agree with that guy 100%
[Droid Incredible Android Development] angryspoon:
There are a lot of people who insist that a ROM has no effect on battery life what so ever. Some of those people only use one ROM though I bet so they have no idea. I know on my Droid 1 I would get about 25% more battery life on Bugless Beast or Ultimate Droid vs many other ROMs.

It really comes down to the person and the phone and what they do with it though. I am sure if you try different ROMs and kernals you will most definitely find a difference in battery life.

If nothing else do what I did. I loaded a ROM with kernal and let the phone run Pandora and pandora alone for 30 mins and check the battery. Loaded another ROM and did the same. Had different battery stats every time.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] anicotra:
I don't see that behavior from the stock kernel. I use slacker in my car. The phone is being charged while in the holder while slacker is playing and I always see a increase in charge and I only have a half hour drive.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ilangoadigal:
Having a good experience with the custom kernel. GPS locks no problem for me, everything seems functional. Not sure about battery life but I'm guessing I'll squeeze out some more given the screen off profile
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rmk40:
If anyone tries out the rotary lock and decides they want to restore to stock, I've setup an option to do so via the Virtuous->Extra Goodies section.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tmellen:
Are you using stock audio, too? The default audio for 2.2 sounds horrible (to me), and I use Adrynalyne's Stagefright.zip fix for it. Improves the sound greatly, but I think it uses a lot more CPU because of it.

I went from:

Stock 2.1, rooted the SDCARD "in and out" method, where sound was great

to:

July 2.2 leak, rooted. Sound was flat and sounded like AM radio.

patched:

with the build.prop "fix" that increased cpu demands so greatly on the phone, that performance was horrible, and it crashed the video cam every time it started

to:

8/1 2.2 leak, rooted, build.prop fix, horrible performance.

to:

8/1 2.2 leak, rooted, Adrynalyne's stagefright compile from Google. Worked Great. Battery charge much slower while Slacking, but acceptable.

to:

Official OTA. Rooted, Stagefright fix. charge time takes about twice as long when very depleted. while using slacker, charge barely keeps up.

To:

Virt 2.6, Adrynalyne's kernel. Sound was bleh while mowing the lawn, applied stagefright fix last night when I finished. Today's drive to work kept the phone at 100%, at lunch it was down to 82, listened to slacked while i drove to and from lunch and was back to 100% when i got in. by 5pm, I was down to 74% 30 mins later I'm home after listening to slacker in the car the entire trip, and I'm at 100%. Before today, that trip would give me 10-15% charge, tops (with slacker on).

I reset and wipe before each and every rom, so i doubt it was previous settings hurting me. Also, in the forums, people are reporting that while GPS is on, their phones don't charge either. I don't use GPS enough to relay my experience there... but I do know that today, my battery seemed to be twice as fast charging, if not three times faster. I was amazed.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] texanaustinite:
Hate to ask... but I can't remember how to get to the Extra Goodies Section?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] CatsTide:
download rom>virtuous>extra goodies;)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sanamkan:
Reverted from King's BFS #1 to stock kernel because of instability earlier today. Flashed the custom without any problems as soon as I saw it. No problems to report, just wanted to say thanks again.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
...

You are all making a very strong case for me to just go ahead and leave stock and flash 2.6 with the custom kernel.

Looking back on this thread, and removing all the "wouldn't it be great if the third pixel from the left was pinker" type of individualized requests, I don't see many unresolved bugs (and watching YouTube thru the app is fine with me).
[Droid Incredible Android Development] smt0222:
rmk40, did you know you can't please all of the people all of the time?? You're doing a darn good job of doing so... please lower your standards :D

Running 2.6 w/Virt v1 Kernel... smooth as a baby's behind... thanks!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] douger1957:
That's why this thread is a plodding 100 pages is because of stuff like that.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] texanaustinite:
Thanks. Been awake since 3am. Little tired...:p
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Tyler 3:
Hey guys Im having some troubles with this ROM and also kinda with any ROM. I can get the ROM to install fine and it works pretty well besides a couple FC but If i try to reboot the phone I can never get past the boot loop. I am using KingzKernel #3 and have the 2.15 radio installed.

Stuff like this has been happening with some other ROMs to. The only ROM I am allowed to use is a backup of CM6 test 8 (or something close to it). I haven't tested every rom but I know I received similar problems with versions of Skyraider 3.0 and Frankenrom. Any ideas on what may be causing this?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] texanaustinite:
Are you wiping data and dalvik cache before flashing a new rom?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] douger1957:
I'm not sure what your problem is. I've been on all of those ROMs and have had no problem with any of them that someone else wasn't having.

I wipe completely before I install a new ROM, including a Dalvik wipe...the Virtuous ROM does it for you. I usually download the ROM to my computer and transfer it to the SD card from there.

I use the "fix permissions" option in ROM manager at the first FC and usually don't have another one.

Maybe if I spent longer than a week on a ROM, I might see more problems, but just color me an Android whore...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
You had the same trouble with Virtuous at stock kernal? Not over clocked? Full wipe with the new ROM?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
I don't know if anyone has had this, but I just flashed virtuous from stock (using clockwork, with wiping user data and dalvik cache) but titanium backup won't restore. The status bar never moves, and it restores only the one file it showed (where it got stuck). I hit PROBLEMS and let it update to no avail. MyBackup pro worked, but that's not the point. Ant thoughts?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Tyler 3:
Ive installed via rom manager and through the in clockworkmod and I dont think ive tried wiping dalvik cache for this rom. Ill be sure to try it though If I need to reboot again and get stuck in a boot loop. (Also one time I was able to get past the boot screen and around the time it says "Mounting SD Card" or whatever then it would reboot.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rmk40:
From 2.6 onwards, both the full ROM and upgrade version will format cache and wipe dalvik-cache. So you don't need to do that manually.

I've seen Titanium do that with every ROM. It can be caused by apps it doesn't deal with correctly. Just de-select whatever app it's getting stuck on and try again. That's always worked for me.

And if not, I'd contact the developer of Titanium. I am certain this is not a Virtuous problem.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kriskmk:
for some reason, I am not able to install any Virtuous "goodies" from the rom manager.. it always fails in e-signature verification.. even after I toggle signature verification in recovery. This doesn't happen for any other developer's stuff.. like skyraider etc.. only for virtuous.. don't know why..

Also, I am not able to locate the folder where virtuous rom themes etc. are downloaded.

Where is it under clockwork folder?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] wryun:
I love this rom!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
Hmmm ... any idea why Rom manager premium can't reboot into recovery? I wanted to download te patch 2, but no joy on a reboot.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] fortesquieu:
I just found out that my gmail isn't pushing on regular basis. Sometimes it would get the mails, sometimes I need to open the app before it would refresh.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rmk40:
Google Talk is actually responsible for handing a lot of push notifications. Make sure you're logged into it. If not, I'm sure the problem will clear up once you do.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rmk40:
Tonight's improvements: added a few new removal options in EZ-Customizer and the 3D Gallery (photo viewer) from the N1 is available in the Goodies section. It gets installed into /data/app so you can easily remove it via standard uninstaller you decide not to keep it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bensl84:
that happend to me. all you need to do is go into menu > settings > applications > Development > USB debugging.

it sounds crazy but when i was having that. titanium flashed a wanring telling me to check the USB debugging check box

it worked
[Droid Incredible Android Development] itisjustme:
It is now 24hrs that I have been running the new kernel with 2.6, google search fix, EVO camera, EVO mms. I am running setcpu on conservative setting with one profile for screen out at 245 to 384. All is excellent, not one hang up or force close, not one issue (outside of the original kernel install error that was quickly resolved).

I did a ton of monkeying with my phone yesterday so I could not use yesterday as a judgment call for battery use( a very non typical day)but after 12 hours use I still had 51% battery available (HTC 2150).

I expect today to me a more typical to get a batter idea. I will post my findings.

Thanks RMK.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Devildog8791:
You Android Whore!!:D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] nat4mac:
just wanted to say 'thanx' for this ROM and your support of it.

Wireless Tether came in handy today (Time Warner's internet has been out all night and morning now...) ... but one has to keep up with USOpen, right? :)

Here's a screenshot from my laptop tethering with the help of Virtuous 2.6 and VZ's 3G

and this is from the phone itself:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mrchambo:
Do you have ROM Manager free installed as well? ROM Manager Premium is only a license...not the actual product.

jc