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[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
Some outfit named Yandex had some 60%+ search market share here last time I checked. They have maps with traffic (they have their own traffic data monitoring system with cameras, user data and all), both online and for all mobile platforms from dumbphones to iPhone/WM/Android/Symbian/whatnot, webmail, their own online payment system, an e-commerce marketplace, movies, weather, restaruants, all that stuff, and for many cities you won't even find on Google Maps. Yandex is the default browser in Russian versions of Firefox and Opera (which have a much higher market share here than average).

Well, Google is bigger in search and they prefer to go it alone where others have to negotiate with partners (Bing uses Yandex.Direct as an ad engine here, for example). Also, Microsoft has a much bigger operation here with lots and lots more people (Google has a relatively big office here too but that's mostly developers AFAIK, whereas Microsoft has some real business in Russia, so they have all these sales and business development folks to actually go ahead and make these agreements).

Well yes, I still find it creepy when I see that they know exactly where my Wi-Fi router is located...
[Windows Phone 7 General] chopper the dog:
+1 as well. Not launch day though. I'll Let the bugs get ironed out...

good day.
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
Does WP7 also support Tasks?
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
No. There's no Outlook Tasks functionality built in.
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
LOL! That's really bad.

More and more against WP7...
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
Indeed, this worries me much more than the multitasking thingie. For what it's worth, neither the iPhone nor Android support Task syncing natively, you have to get it from third parties. So it may be a trend.

Well, this is old news actually. And it's not like there's much to choose from in this regard - Blackberry and WebOS will do it but who cares.
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
I feel "scary" again......

Years ago my favourite platform crashed (UIQ) and I was forced to switch.

WM was my choice. So now I'm forced again because it will be somehow obsolette in a year or so....

I would choose Android but I don't like the devices, X10 is still 1.6,

and Android UI is not really something I like.

I would love to stay with WM waiting for WP7 eventually.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
I know the feeling... My HD2 has a hardware problem and doesn't work reliably anymore. So I ordered an iPhone 4 which should be delivered within an hour or so. I tried a ton of Android devices but don't like that OS really. Yes, it is very capable but it just feels so DIY. Could get another HD2 but sort of want to try something new already. Will certainly switch to WP7 when it's ready, and the iPhone will serve to get used to restrictions. :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
Yeah, good luck.

iPhone is out of the question as for me. Everything with iTunes, I don't even use a Mac. No qwerty etc..
[Windows Phone 7 General] theomni:
iTunes is so annoying to use, I hate it.

idk about the zune, but most mp3 players out there just allow you to drag and drop files into you device. You don't need get an proprietary garbage or anything.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
iTunes is certainly an abomination, no doubt about it.

It sucks I have to go through this.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
^ whats the difference between having to go through iTunes, and having to go through Zune?
[Windows Phone 7 General] gom99:
iTunes is very bloated, slow and cucumbersome. It's also a security risk, there are attack vectors associated with windows through itunes.

As far as I know, Zune doesn't have these security issues. It's also very lightweight.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
Zune is not just lightweight, it's also much more flexible than iTunes.
[Windows Phone 7 General] sx1-doc:
for the moment i will go for android , i will not wait for wm7 to show off( i dont like the fact that you can only install apps from marketplace)

6 months after wm7 is lunched, i will check how is it doing and the feedback of the XDA members ,and maybe i will go for it.

i am on xperia x1 still because galaxy s pro is not lunched yet in europe.

i only real beast hardware wise and software wise is the Galaxy s pro.

i hope that wm7 hardware will deliver better then the samsung hummingbird + powervr 540 .
[Windows Phone 7 General] gom99:
Unless there is some kind of "Mona Lisa of hardware" I probably won't switch at launch. I was never really a fan of being an early adopter. My Omnia II is holding up quite well, and I haven't even overclocked it yet. It plays all my Zune pass stuff, and I'm still hooked on these SCUMM games. It also has all my bases covered as far as business needs as well.

So I'll probably just ride it out until 2011 to see how everything plays out, hopefully SCUMM will be implemented by then, although I'm not sure how it will work with no file system access, how do you put the game images on there.
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
Probably no WP7 in Poland at launch...

For me it is important to know when Microsoft will bring the missing features......

It's also not great to read some makers make Android their first line OS, like SE, Samsung.. At least for now.

I always thought almost complete lack of UI customization can be a problem...
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
Ah, that doesn't really mean much. Samsung is a very opportunistic company, they never make long term commitments to anything. Also don't forget there's a lot of politics and bargaining involved.
[Windows Phone 7 General] wtherrell:
Well, if it won't sync tasks with my Outlook, then count me out. I have been with WinMo since my Dell Axim 5 days. I have always relied on the basic Outlook sync functionality. Android has clunky, expensive apps for it and is the main reason I haven't already switched to Android. Hell, if this keeps up, I may as well ditch PDA functions altogether. Get a simple phone and keep my Calendar and Tasks on Outlook and Day Runner or Franklin Covey using pencil and paper. I want functionality, not a toy to watch movies or engage in inane tweets or facebook-on-the-go. What the hell is the world coming to?
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
Indeed. But hurry, even dumbphones may lose this functionality if the trend continues. :-)
[Windows Phone 7 General] gom99:
I strongly believe that quote is taken out of context. Even if they truly feel that way..no way a marketing team would say something to demean a product they're about to launch. I think they were talking about wm 6.5.
[Windows Phone 7 General] barberd:
wp7

currently using touch pro2 always used windows mobile based phone with the xbox coming to wp7 i love it but is windows mobile still sticking to the business side of the phone or just strictly trying to go gaming
[Windows Phone 7 General] gom99:
The launch version seems to be more geared toward the comsumer market. Bringing Zune & Xbox to a phone seems to be the major draws right now. I wouldn't say wp7 is currently useless for business, but it's not as full featured as it could be. wp7 is still a work in progress, just because it's launching doesn't mean it's finished.

The major points of wp7 are:

-Bringing silverlight & xna to the party

-Unified dev tools for phone, web and application

-Zune & Xbox

-Cloud integration & Skydrive (I'd call it phase 1 right now)

-New improved modern UI

That being said, the business side isn't completely ignored:

-Sharepoint Integration

-Updated but lighter weight version of Office w/ tracking features

-Smooth Mail client experience
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
How is the WP7 version of Office lighter than the current one?
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
Good question. Current one is REALLY light in functionality so how can this be even ligher.

I would rather require more advanced one, with functionality at least matching DocsToGo.
[Windows Phone 7 General] gerryjoson:
How do you cut out a chunk of text in a word doc and delete/overwrite it?, I still haven't seen a video of this being done yet, I know you can't copy and paste into another paragraph or C&P at all but what about delete/overwrite, same with text messages when you make a mistake or want to change something a couple of lines up, even 6.5 is a PITA versus 6.1 in this respect needing an additional command to select text before you can actually select what you want to edit.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
Pretty much like you do it on iPhone, except there's a cursor instead of the magnifying glass.
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
It's one of the reasons why it's better to wait for improved WP7.
[Windows Phone 7 General] gom99:
From their office presentation they gave the impression that they didn't move every function of the current version to the wp7 version. It's more an emphasis on touching up over creation. They added change tracking which is nice. But the major lack of functionality would be the ability to c&p between the programs eg: Move something from a doc over to your ppt. I haven't actually seen the full office version to compare what functions weren't moved over though.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
I don't see where the WP7 office suite is less functional than what we have currently, apart from copy and paste, which is an OS limitation, not something missing from the applications themselves.
[Windows Phone 7 General] CSMR:
I will be sticking with 6.5, outdated and buggy though it is, and hoping the missing features are there for Windows Phone 8.

If it turns out that WP8 only allows isolated storage, I'll switch.
[Windows Phone 7 General] theomni:
You're really hoping for a windows phone 8?

Unless microsoft does something terribley wrong with Windows Phone 7 (accounts of people being killed by an unforeseeable programming glitch on the phone), I wouldn't expect Microsoft to bring up Windows Phone 8 for another 4-5 years or so.

Unless you're talking about Windows Phone 7 but with a couple of revisions and updates on it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] CSMR:
Even Windows Mobile had faster releases than that. 1-2 years. Windows and Office are on 2 year shedules. In a new market releases must come faster. Microsoft can be quite fast with platform releases for new products in important markets; silverlight has been faster than annual.

Anyway, it's not important what comes as a release or a service pack or incremental updates. I'll wait for a year and if there's still no sign of allowing common storage in addition to isolated storage, I'll switch, otherwise I'll stay.
[Windows Phone 7 General] kanundra:
Agreed, if Windows Phone 7 takes off like Microsoft hopes I don't see another major revision for another few years.
[Windows Phone 7 General] CSMR:
Given that Microsoft releases major revisions of almost all its software at least every two years, given that it has no plans to sack the Windows Phone team it has just hired, and given that it doesn't intend to abandon business customers permanently, which would be idiotic, it will have a major revision soon, I would expect 1-2 years.

The question is not whether the platform will be improved, it definitely will, but whether it will be permanently locked down and unsuitable for power users.
[Windows Phone 7 General] iamsoly:
If and only if..

I'm quite satisfied with my HD2 + WinMo 6.5, except the lack of support in multi-language input IME.

I have been reading posts about Win Phone 7, that several points made me hesitate in switching to it..:

1) Windows Phone 7 forgets how to copy & paste

2) No file system access

3) SD Card slot not user accessible

4) No built-in multi-language input IME

For 1~3, how come 6.5 can do it but 7 cannot?!

(Hopefully manufacturer can fix these before launching their phones)

Win Phone should not learn the bad things from iPhone, or else it would made people abandon this phone os forever..:(
[Windows Phone 7 General] RustyGrom:
1 will be coming soon, probably within a few months.

2 & 3 will only come by way of hacking. OEMs cannot modify the OS itself in any way. Microsoft has limited it for a reason.
[Windows Phone 7 General] theomni:
The file system access is whats bugging me too. I don't want to have to go through Pictures-->more pictures-->all pictures, etc. etc. for everything else.

I like the "my computer" kind of interface.
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
Exactly.....
[Windows Phone 7 General] gom99:
I don't like not having filesystem access...but for things like picture libraries, media libraries, etc. I don't really care about accessing them directly as long as it's easy to get to them.

But there are definately times I want to manipulate directories and do more advanced things with my device. That's what irks me about the current wp7. In my heart of hearts I hope that future versions will be both more user friendly and more powerful. The same way windows 7 offers more advanced features while being more user-friendly.
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
Right. The basic question is HOW you attach many mail attachements of different kind? There must be some kind of file access. And how you save unknown file to your device?
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
Well the answer is very simple. You can't save an unsupported file and you can't attach files of different types to one email.
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
Are you sure? If yes, WP7 is pure crap.

If somebody makes a mistake in filename and device will not recognize it

I will not save it?

I will not be able to make one email with multiple files?

If yes Microsoft are dumbass idiots.

Android than.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Fermat:
Yes, that's exactly what happens. No file system access = only a few filetypes supported and you can not attach different files to one email.

Sucks. You can as well get an iPhone, it's the same ****. Only isolated storage = crap.

Android is the only good mobile OS left.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
Since my HD2 died, I bought an iPhone. Funnily, lack of filesystem access isn't that big of a deal with copy/paste. :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] havox22:
There I fixed it for you :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] _Madmatt:
I'll stick to Windows, but it'll have to be a 6.5.x, or a "Windows Phone Classic", like MS wants to call it right now :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] theomni:
hmmm, well at least we now know that the phone won't double as a USB storage device.
[Captivate General] djgleebs:
As the title says i am completely unable to boot into download mode. I gave tried every method other than adb (I can't for the life of me figure out how to use adb) and my device simply WILL NOT boot into download mode. This is a rather discouraging issue for me, since it disables me from flashing kernels with odin3...

I have tried booting while plugged in and turned off with Odin open, tried with the phone unplugged and turned off (volume down + power) and every method simply starts the phone as normal, or loops boot animations until I release the buttons. And both volume buttos +power simply leads to recovery mode.

Please help >.
[Captivate General] masterofthebass:
you aren't /completely/ unable. You just refuse to use the easiest way. ADB is ridiculously easy to use, you plug your phone in and type stuff into the command prompt. If you aren't able to use a computer, I'm not too sure you should be messing with your phone anyway.
[Captivate General] rkorzuch:
1.Remove the battery, sim card, sdcard if you have one

2.Insert the battery

3.Hold both Volume buttons

4.Plug in the USB cable and continue holding both Volume buttons
[Captivate General] TechTony13:
Even easier than navigating is shift clicking on the tools folder and opening the prompt that way.
[Captivate General] djgleebs:
I don't refuse, I just don't know how. Almost every tutorial takes for granted you know how to use adb pretty well...
[Captivate General] djgleebs:
You're my hero. Thank you.
[Captivate General] masterofthebass:
I'm going to guess you are using windows.

1. download android sdk (google it)

2. open up a command prompt (windows+r cmd)

3. navigate to the sdk tools folder (using cd to change directories)

4. type whatever adb command you are supposed to. (adb reboot download in this case)
[Captivate General] sl8125:
Please next time when you have questions, post in the general. Unless you are helping with development, post it in the general with all your questions. Please also learn how to read and learn how to use the search button.
[Captivate General] bblaze1874:
Why doesnt anyone read the stickies anymore??
[Captivate General] fatalsync:
I think the easiest way is (from rooted phone):

Open Terminal Emulator

>su <ENTER>

>reboot download <ENTER>
[Captivate General] thirdshiftdj:
Easiset way is to google Android SDK. Open the folder, then open the tools folder. In there you will see adb. Drag adb onto your command window that you've opened to run commnads and then type in what you want it to do, ie: reboot recovery, reboot download then hit enter.
[Captivate General] kenjindomini:
Step 3 is not necessary unless you are using adb push or adb pull.

Open command prompt, type command. Using ADB is not a skill. There are a whole 5 commands. adb shell, adb pull, adb push, adb reboot, and adb remount.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] TheBiles:
Preferably one with a widget where I can quickly view, create, and edit a list of the things I need to do that day. Suggestions?
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] guitarjockey:
That would be awesome. I need the same thing. I got a wedding coming up and I have so much to do.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Rippley05:
The htc task pad was awesome! But sadly....it needs sense.

I use note everything...download the free and paid version. Has a widget and nice features
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Drybonz:
Try Astrid. I haven't used it for a while but it was pretty handy.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] whatsitsnamenow:
I'll second Astrid.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] apristel:
I just use the google calendar.... it seems easier to enter the stuff in on my pc....you can do it from the phone too... and then just use the calendar widgets....

I set "to-do" things as all day events.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] TheBiles:
I've actually used Note Everything in the past, but I never used the widget. How does it work?

I will look into it.

No can do. I'm not about to clutter my calendar with things like "pick up laundry."
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] deathpod:
I've used "color note" for a while. Basically a sticky note style widget, but the To-do features were surprisingly good. Very easy to add tasks and check them off. Of course, evernote is just awesome simply because your notes are everywhere, but I find it to be too much for the kind of quick To-do list you're talking about.

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[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] skydeaner:
I also use astrid, but i have used one that syncs my notes online too so that when i reformat my phone and try a different rom (once a day kinda thing for me lol) i dont lose my todo list for my job. i'll have to try to find the name of that one, but if you look in the market it should be easy to find, their main feature is it syncing online and they put it right in the description.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] TheBiles:
Eh, I tried Astrid, but the widget is horrible.

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[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] jkinnison90:
I like color note... I mainly use it for the note part, but there is a checklist as well.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] fachadick:
ok - now you're talking my language. I live and die by my task manager.

I use the ToodleDo task manager at the office. Its a pretty solid task manager and does everything I need it to (which is pretty extensive) in the free version. There's a web interface where you login to the website to access your tasks (which are all stored online), but there's also FF addon that adds instant access to your tasks in a FF sidebar - this makes adding and editing tasks on the fly quick and easy. They only provide that web access though, so although it can be accessed by a mobile browser (meh), they have no android presence.

Here's where it gets interesting.

I have an app called Got To Do, which is a pretty decent android task manager in its own right, but what's cool is that it can also sync up with my ToodleDo account online. So the app gives instant access to all of my ToodleDo tasks. They have a widget, but it's not that great.

But I also have the Pure Calendar widget (which is an a amazingly customizable agenda-showing calendar widget), which can sync up with Got To Do.

So the bottom half of my main homescreen is the Pure Calender widget, not only showing me agenda items from my exchange and google calendars, but also my relevant tasks from ToodleDo/GotToDo. And I have Pure Calendar to open Got To Do when pressed, so my tasks are always one click away. I find myself accessing my tasks almost exclusively from my Evo at this point because of how easy it is.

Elegant productivity enhancement, or just OCD? You decide.

And before it comes up, the cpu and battery drain from all this syncing have been negligible on BS.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Status Flow:
I use gtasks. It auto syncs with my Google Tasks on my gmail account and has a simple and nice looking widget. It is also very simple, which is what I was looking for.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] fachadick:
yeah - my system will definitely not work for people looking for a something simple :D
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] ktae13:
Try Jorte. It's my fav cal and todo app. (You can sync with google cal and todo)
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] iTouch24:
gtasks

nice widget interface
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] TheBiles:
Would you mind posting a screenshot of your setup?
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] brokeninfinityx:
Use the app Gtasks, anything you put in will go to your task list on google calendar, thus eliminating clutter.

Or an alternative is to use the app Jorte -- it's a calendar app/widget that links with your google calendar. You can create more than one calendar on google calendars, and turn of the visibility of the new calendar while viewing your calendar online.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] fachadick:
Not at all, but unless you can recommend an app that I can use to blur out some name and company info from a shootme screenshot, it won't be till later.

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[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] TheBiles:
Uh... Microsoft Paint?
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] enormous:
I've looked into this quite a bit, and if you're not set on one of the major players (Remember The Milk, Toodledo), I would recommend checking out gtdify.com. It's got a nice "streamlined" web front end, and you can sync with the app Shuffle (which has a widget).

I also use 3banana notes for quickly capturing thoughts or to take a photo-note. Then I can go back through 3banana and add stuff to my gtdify list when I've got time to interface with it more in-depth.

GTDify Website: http://gtdify.com

Shuffle:

http://www.appbrain.com/app/org.dodgybits.android.shuffle

3banana Notes:

http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.threebanana.notes
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] fachadick:
Sorry - I meant android app. I won't have access to my comp until later today lol.

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[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] fachadick:
Wasn't able to edit my screens, but if you've seen pure calendar, its no different, it just shows your tasks in addition to your agenda. Then you can set the widget to open up the task manager when pressed. Will try to edit and post the screens in the launcherpro screenshot thread at some point, and will come back and update this thread when I do. Sorry.

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[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] MrDanger:
I personally use PureCalendar because of it's scrollable widget! (Only with ADW or Launcher Pro)