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[Galaxy S I9000 General] heygrl:
Accessories for the Captivate, Fascinate, and Epic will be different so they should have different subforums. Same goes for the multiple development subforms for the i9000, they should be consolidated into one just for reduced clutter.

Merging the general forums will be a mad house. I would rather see a merger of all forums for each separate device, in subforum of it's own.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] nCoder:
Most posts General/Development/apps are common to all SGS models - The accessories may be more specific.

I'd propose that we merge all common related topics and create sub-forums for model-specific topics.

(i.e.

SGS Development

---> Topics here

> Vibrant specific Development

---------> Topics here too

> i9000 Specific Development

---------> Topics here too

> xxx Specific Development

---------> Topics here too

> i9000M Specific Development

---------> Topics here too

> ...

Alternativelly, make the other SGS models forums part of a Model-Specific sub-forum inside the Main SGS forum.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] alovell83:
What do you mean by madhouse? Lots of work? Lots of threads?

Also, if this is a lot of work, couldn't they do the worse, but still potentially better thing of just starting fresh? I think it's the least likely and least beneficial solution, but long-term we still might be better off. Development and discussion would still occur, even the most popular topics like lagfix could be migrated if happens to be an incremental cost to moving each thread (so if 100 topics take 100x the work of one, only migrate top 3-10 threads.)

Just trying to create alternate solutions, not sure how bulletin migration really works. My jde & windows programming tells me to just copy stuff :o and, in this case, close the old threads.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] gTen:
Its not gonna be a mad house considering 9/10 posts are usually the same across all the boards..if you take that into account it will actually clear up clutter and waist of bandwidth reposting the same information in 5 places... I mean take a simple question like "does Samsung use Gorilla glass" this was asked in ALL the forums General chat...or it could have been just asked once...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] gTen:
Model code for Verizon Fascinate appears to be SCH-I500
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
Thanks! i couldn't find it out no matter how much i googled for it

i'll update the 1 page
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
wiki also updated
[Galaxy S I9000 General] gTen:
Seems like we finally got a sticky..yey :)..but doesn't seem like the sticky is across all he sub-forums yet booo :(

But its a step in the right direction I guess :/
[Galaxy S I9000 General] spandsbab:
Great suggestion AllGamer!

I was a little confused when I first started reading here in XDA forums about Samsung Galaxy S because of this chaos!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Mithent:
Well, we have over 200 votes on the poll now with an approval rate of over 93%.. fairly good mandate for doing some kind of merge!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] katsuru:
I voted no and i will explain!

Every day i see more people " Please help Galaxy bricked " when i look into the thread i read...

I bricked my Captivate! or I bricked Fascinate! or i bricked my cat....

We have forums for every Samsung model now, and every1 lands here on our I9000 Galaxy S forum, flashing with software designed for our model, and as well as our device firmwares, ending up with bricked nice looking Samsung devices ( at least those who miss the 3 button combo )

To avoid more of that, please leave the forum as it is now, from what would we benefit from having a forum all together for Devices with so many distinct differences?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] :
I see no reason why S and Vibrant cannot be combined or am I missing something?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] bratfink:
Definitly

I think this should deffinitly be done and the sooner the better.

Yes there will be issues with people flashing incompatible roms with incorrect software but nothing can be done about this, i mean as the person just mentioned a few posts a above me that this is happening right now EVEN WITH SPLIT FORUMS! So it seems no matter what we do fools that dont read the OPs posts properly will always be there and will always mess up their shiny new devices but i do not believe the moderators should decide against this merge for the benefit of those fools.

Most members of xda do know what they are doing and are not stupid and this merge would greatly benefit the masses so this is my plea to the moderators and i hope they take it seriously.

I would also like to add the sooner the is done the quicker the merged forumns can be cleaned up e.g. people adding [SGS i9000 EU] at the beginning of there posts etc etc.

And i would finally like to add the in both cases this same question has been raised once by the moderators themselves and they decided to go against the masses and now my us members ourselves so i vote merge the forumns!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Pops_G:
Please make this happen. Every now and then I see these awesome tips I can be missing because they are in other forums but still apply to the model I am interested in.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Nitephyre:
Yes, it makes sense :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] gTen:
Remember each one will have its own development forum...as it is right now people are confused anyways on what they should and shouldn't flash...and then end up flashing and bricking their phones...They are flashing because they don't see development on their board so they "assume" its ok to flash from another because the development is there..this way the ops can clarify if it is compatible and with what.

On the main development forum people will put codes in the posts indicating compatibility..the point of forums are SO THAT PEOPLE READ...the community is suppose to make an ideal habitat for developers to work together, develop and share..and by merging them that is possible..If a person can't bother to READ 1 paragraph explaining how the section works..then I doubt they even read the rules of this forum in the first place and would most likely be banned anyways..

I mean what next, we gonna have to require picture guides for those who never learned how to read?

Overall simple concept..each one in their own development board, boards that overlap use [V][F][C] codes

Imagine this..we have an issue or feature that the community is working on in the i9000 forums..4 reposts are made in the other forums about it...and someone suggests a solution in the Fascinate forums and for whatever reason others don't notice it and the developer(s) in the i9000 don't visit that forum to check..so the solution is not found until weeks later by the developers themselves loosing weeks of development time...if we combine how much time developers loose cause of this split it would end up over the lifespan of this device into YEARS of lost development time...so whats more important, a few people who are too lazy to read 1 paragraph in the sticky(who are gonna brick their phones eventually anyways cause they don't read) or have developers loose YEARS of development?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] TMReuffurth:
Development Part should stay for each Model. I guess the Hardware may be the same, but could make some confusing.

But the idea to merge the Themes and Apps Forums in one is great. Because some people post their Apps in the forum of their model and never get seen by us.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] iuzar:
+1...............
[Galaxy S I9000 General] boomerbubba:
I think there are enough differences among the branded variants, both hardware and software, that the separate forums make sense. The cognoscenti who want to follow them all can just check multiple forums.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] gTen:
i9000 | base

AT&T, Vibrant | + 1 button, -1 camera

Fascinate | + 1 button, +cdma, +flash, ~2gb rom

Epic | + 1 button, +cdma, +flash, ~1gb rom, +keyboard, + LED

korean & brazil | +digital tv

Software is all the same...except Epic is coming out with TouchWiz 2.5 for now..

There is hardly any difference between devices..and we actually loose out all the benefits. Checking 25 boards a day is overkill no matter how you look at it..
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
oh yeah , it's insane having to jump though all the different forums, just to keep up to date
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Whosdaman:
No, because the accessories are different, the questions are different, the roms are all different, and most importantly the hardware is different as well. If you have the Epic stick with the Epic forum. If you have the Vibrant...etc...etc..
[Galaxy S I9000 General] gTen:
90% of accessories are the same..the only thing that would differ is the cases and pouches...even still same case would most likely work for i9000 and Vibrant as they are similar...

You think it is not confusing now? did you know that the Vibrant in Canada is an i9000 and a vibrant in US is not? so if you flash your Bell Vibrant in the Vibrant forum you'll be in for a surprise...

As for questions..can you even come up with 10 different questions for each device? I bet ya I can easily give you 100 questions that would be the same...

Roms will be in their own sub section so there is no reason you would confuse it either way...

If you stick to your own forum for each device..development for this phone will be hurt...then you'll be complaining and asking "why is that variant of the Galaxy S getting all the stuff and mine doesn't?"
[Galaxy S I9000 General] heygrl:
The only things that could be merged is, Apps/Themes. Everything else should be separate but we should have them ALL under one roof instead of having them in their own subforum.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] aditya_t90:
If you need any help moderating I too will volunteer my services.

Please merge the forums.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] nbs11:
I propose something different:

Galaxy S

----General Galaxy S

----General Q/A

----Android Development

-----------------Galaxy S GT-I9000 Brazil [I9B]

-----------------Galaxy S GT-I9000 International [I9]

-----------------Galaxy S GT-I9000M Vibrant Bell [I9M]

-----------------Galaxy S I909 China [I9C]

-----------------Galaxy S SPH-D700 Epic 4G Sprint [E]

-----------------Galaxy S SCH-I500 Fascinate Verizon [F]

-----------------Galaxy S SGH-I897 Captivate AT&T [C]

-----------------Galaxy S SGH-T959 Vibrant T-mobile [V]

-----------------Galaxy S SHW-M110S Korea Anycall [K]

----Accessories

-----------------Galaxy S International

-----------------Samsung Captivate

-----------------Samsung Vibrant

-----------------Samsung Epic 4G

-----------------Samsung Facinate

----Themes and Applications
[Galaxy S I9000 General] :
You forgot Themes and Apps. Looks good though.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] nbs11:
fixed.

By the way. I will also volunteer my services as a part time moderator if needed. Obviously I have not been on XDA the required 6 months but If they want me to then I will gladly do it.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] GreenBot:
I strongly agree. The Apple iPhone is successful in some way that there are many apps, accessories and Jailbreak mods because the hardware variety are limited and that allows developers to concentrate on working on the same device.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
the Accessories can remain together, the minor exception is the 4G Epic (extra keyboard) which will not be compatible with the cases that works for all the other model

cut holes are the same for all other models

screen protector between international (including brazil, korea) and USA models is only the 3 vs 4 button setup

everything else are the same
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
this one work with a minor modification, if you guys really want to split the accessories

General should remain as 1, it will defeat the whole purpose if you split General

the idea is to only post important information and or stickies in 1 place rather than each 5+ places, it'll be no different than how it's now if you keep Generals split up

Development must remain separated unless specially for hardware specific Hacks/ROMs.

Cross model compatible Hacks/ROMs can remain in "Galaxy S Android Development"

Samsung Galaxy S Series

----Galaxy S General & News

----Galaxy S Q/A & Help Desk

----Galaxy S Android Development

-----------------Galaxy S GT-I9000 Brazil [I9B]

-----------------Galaxy S GT-I9000 International [I9]

-----------------Galaxy S GT-I9000M Vibrant [I9M]

-----------------Galaxy S I909 China [I9C]

-----------------Galaxy S SPH-D700 Epic 4G [E]

-----------------Galaxy S SCH-I500 Fascinate [F]

-----------------Galaxy S SGH-I897 Captivate [C]

-----------------Galaxy S SGH-T959 Vibrant [V]

-----------------Galaxy S SHW-M110S Korea [K]

-----------------Galaxy S [model ID pending] Tablet [T]

----Galaxy S Accessories

-----------------Galaxy S International [I9][I9B][I9M][I9C][K]

-----------------Galaxy S USA models [F][C][V]

-----------------Galaxy S Epic 4G [E]

----Galaxy S Applications & Themes
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Hydrocharged:
I like that idea
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
updated page 1 to match
[Galaxy S I9000 General] frankencat:
+1 for the merge.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] nbs11:
The captivate is different
[Galaxy S I9000 General] nbs11:
Not all USA models are the same. The vibrant and captivate are totally different shapes.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] heygrl:
The Fascinate is different too because it has a flat back and camera flash, nope that won't work.

I really think the best comprimise is merging all Galaxy S Sub-forums into one BIG subforum with an all inclusive Themes/Apps section.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] nbs11:
And general/Q&A because 99% of the questions asked apply to all of them. The other 1% generally can be posted in Android Dev
[Galaxy S I9000 General] sschrupp:
I definitely support this.

As someone new to Android having all the software in one forum instead of scattered in 10 forums would be a HUGE benefit.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
updated, less forum is better
[Galaxy S I9000 General] SetiroN:
+1 for the merge.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
OMG and the here we go again

the mods just created another sub forum for the Tab... :rolleyes:

instead of condensing all of them into big 1 sub forum

1. Samsung Galaxy S I9000 (x5 sub forums)

2. Samsung Fascinate (x4 sub forums)

3. Samsung Captivate (x5 sub forums)

4. Samsung Vibrant (x5 sub forums)

5. Samsung Epic 4G (x4 sub forums)

6. Samsung Galaxy Tab (x1 sub forums)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jam3sjam3s:
Well, we have 270+ members up for creating 1 big forum.

What do we have to do now to ask the moderators do the changes?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
well they are aware of the issue, they said they will consider it, but so far we've yet to see it happen.

my best guess is they will keep it as is... horrible idea, but well, it's not for us to decide i guess
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jam3sjam3s:
It's a bit strange since there are like 90% of members who voted yes and 10% who voted no.

Aren't moderators awared that 270 members voted forums to be merged?

I thought they are supposed to help people and ease the use of the forum... Even help with member's requests...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] sirphunkee:
Yes, believe me, we're looking at all the options for this (i.e. all the different suggestions that have come up in this and other threads). Since it spans several current forums, it goes beyond just my jurisdiction and is being reviewed by the senior mod team.

Also, from what I understand, the Galaxy Tab section was just created only so those posts would have their own place in the meantime while we get the final methodology sorted out.

I assure you that as soon as a decision is reached we'll post an announcement and make the changes asap. We certainly agree that some type of change needs to be made here, we just want to make sure it's the best (and final!) one for everybody.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
For the Galaxy Tab it's understandable

it definitely worth being on its own forum, after all it has different hardware spec, even though ROM & Apps wise are the same.

i'm pretty sure even the sim unlock methods that we created here will work for it as well.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] nbs11:
Here is my final proposal. If you disagree with it tell me. If everyone agrees then I will send this to the moderators.

Galaxy S (phones)

----General Galaxy S

----General Q/A

----Android Development

-----------------Galaxy S GT-I9000 Brazil [I9B]

-----------------Galaxy S GT-I9000 International [I9]

-----------------Galaxy S GT-I9000M Vibrant Bell [I9M]

-----------------Galaxy S I909 China [I9C]

-----------------Galaxy S SPH-D700 Epic 4G Sprint [E]

-----------------Galaxy S SCH-I500 Fascinate Verizon [F]

-----------------Galaxy S SGH-I897 Captivate AT&T [C]

-----------------Galaxy S SGH-T959 Vibrant T-mobile [V]

-----------------Galaxy S SHW-M110S Korea Anycall [K]

----Accessories

-----------------Samsung Galaxy S International

-----------------Samsung Captivate

-----------------Samsung Vibrant

-----------------Samsung Epic 4G

-----------------Samsung Facinate

----Themes and Applications

Galaxy S (tablet)

The tablet needs to be separate because almost everything will be at least somewhat different.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Whosdaman:
This is how we will bring everyone together!!!

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/group.php?groupid=71

http://xdaforums.com/group.php?groupid=287

Join now if your are currently a user of any of the Samsung Galaxy S devices!!!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Bec07:
UNBELIEVABLE!

Not you again! Ever read the rules of no double posting? http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=774092

Going back to topic I suggest we keep the devices with the same hardware in the same topic:

-----------------Galaxy S GT-I9000 Brazil [I9B]

-----------------Galaxy S GT-I9000 International [I9]

-----------------Galaxy S GT-I9000M Vibrant [I9M]

Same button configuration should mean (probably) that we deal with the same hardware.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] alovell83:
Brazil does have the DMB tuner, cellular radio is the same.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] andrewluecke:
nbs11's looks alright. My only concern is that newbies might begin to install the wrong firmware for their device. What we really need is for ODIN to offer more protection against doing so. Maybe something we'll see in Heimdell?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] nbs11:
But if they have no idea about what device they have then they had it coming for them.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
that is the entire reason why each subset of the Galaxy S family needs to be listed all in one forum

so they can easily compare which one they have

right now people are guessing which one they have, as many arrives by google into the wrong forum

having all of it listed in one place, you can easily know which one is the correct one, when you look at the Dev Section

then all the devices sub models are listed there
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
and update for the people interested in this topic.

The mods are going ahead with the proposed setup, this is like that part in the wedding thing, if you have any objection you better do it now :)

for the grant schema of things, this is the best setup to start in the proper direction.

Samsung Galaxy S Series
----Galaxy S General & News
----Galaxy S Q/A & Help Desk
----Galaxy S Android Development
-----------------Galaxy S GT-I9000 Brazil [I9B]
-----------------Galaxy S GT-I9000 International [I9]
-----------------Galaxy S GT-I9000M Vibrant [I9M]
-----------------Galaxy S I909 China [I9C]
-----------------Galaxy S SPH-D700 Epic 4G [E]
-----------------Galaxy S SCH-I500 Fascinate [F]
-----------------Galaxy S SGH-I897 Captivate [C]
-----------------Galaxy S SGH-T959 Vibrant [V]
-----------------Galaxy S SHW-M110S Korea [K]
----Galaxy S Accessories
----Galaxy S Applications, Games & Themes

in the worse case scenario, in the future we might expand the "Galaxy S Accessories" into 4 more sub section for the USA models as they are the only one with different front screen/case design.

Samsung Galaxy S Series
----Galaxy S General & News
----Galaxy S Q/A & Help Desk
----Galaxy S Android Development
-----------------Galaxy S GT-I9000 Brazil [I9B]
-----------------Galaxy S GT-I9000 International [I9]
-----------------Galaxy S GT-I9000M Vibrant [I9M]
-----------------Galaxy S I909 China [I9C]
-----------------Galaxy S SPH-D700 Epic 4G [E]
-----------------Galaxy S SCH-I500 Fascinate [F]
-----------------Galaxy S SGH-I897 Captivate [C]
-----------------Galaxy S SGH-T959 Vibrant [V]
-----------------Galaxy S SHW-M110S Korea [K]
----Galaxy S Accessories
-----------------Galaxy S SPH-D700 Epic 4G [E]
-----------------Galaxy S SCH-I500 Fascinate [F]
-----------------Galaxy S SGH-I897 Captivate [C]
-----------------Galaxy S SGH-T959 Vibrant [V]
----Galaxy S Applications, Games & Themes
[Galaxy S I9000 General] theodork:
Wow any idea when the change will be implemented? I'm getting tired of double posting between vibrant and i9000
[Galaxy S I9000 General] NeoXTC:
SWEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!

Can't wait for the change.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
i wouldn't be surprised if we wake up and see it different ;)

...one of these days
[Galaxy S I9000 General] nbs11:
The accessories need to be different for the Captivate and other USA models. Other then that the TAB needs to be totally separate because almost everything is different.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] PatcheZ:
lol, maybe we should ask eugene373 what the differences are for developing the 'different' phones.

Although as a whole, the galaxy s/variants forums are decreased, the android development section has increased... from 5 to 9???, further dividing the development (which in imo is the most important of all the forums).
[Galaxy S I9000 General] nbs11:
But also keeping them in the same place. It is much easier to read 9 different subforum then find 5 different forums. Things can also be cross posted easier
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Whosdaman:
Get out of here, see everyone wants the forums combined and you don't. You are the major problem to this. Have you not seen the problems in the past that have come up about this issue??? Everyone wants it you your logic is completely wrong.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
Brazil one has a TV module, so it's not compatible with the international i9000 and Canadian i9000M

i9000 and i9000m are almost the same but their modem drivers are different
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Chainfire:
Some knowledgeble people in this thread. Can one of you compile a list of the different models, their carriers (guess this is relevant to North America only), and their known differences?

I'd attempt it, but for example this:

I would certainly not have known.

EDIT: More info = better :) But try keeping it understandable ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] nbs11:
I believe this is the correct list of harware:

Galaxy S GT-I9000 Brazil [I9B]
Galaxy S GT-I9000 International [I9]
Galaxy S GT-I9000M Vibrant [I9M]
Galaxy S I909 China [I9C]
Galaxy S SPH-D700 Epic 4G [E]
Galaxy S SCH-I500 Fascinate [F]
Galaxy S SGH-I897 Captivate [C]
Galaxy S SGH-T959 Vibrant [V]
Galaxy S SHW-M110S Korea [K]
Galaxy S [model ID pending] Tab [T]

For accessories this is the correct list:

Galaxy S International
Samsung Captivate
Samsung Vibrant
Samsung Facinate
Samsung Epic 4G

Carrier wise in the states at least:

Samsung Captivate [AT&T]
Samsung Vibrant [T-Mobile]
Samsung Facinate [Verizon]
Samsung Epic 4G [Sprint]
[Galaxy S I9000 General] PatcheZ:
but i wonder... is it possible to create a base galaxy s 'rom' per se, and add on whatever mods/changes are required for each phone. i can't imagine that the people at samsung would want to provide support for soo many different phone software, and think of the updates and fixes.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] nbs11:
No it is not possible without porting or alterations. Some phones are GSM some are CDMA. Some use one frequency some others. Some have radio, flash, front cam, etc. others do not.