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[Galaxy S I9000 General] Devhux:
I should clarify that I never did get into recovery mode without ADB or similar. The screen I found myself in twice was the download one (with the yellow construction icon).

I'll probably sit down with my device later today and try to reproduce it again. If I do stumble upon something that seems to work reliably, I'll definitely post it here and have several people try it.

Here's hoping I have something by the end of the weekend. :) Worst case, we wait for that fix Samsung claims to be working on.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] abumuqaatil:
Well I can confirm that I just bricked my Galaxy S TRYING to get into the 3 button recovery mode. I had the power button pressed for 20 seconds ...phone rebooted about 3 times then now it just gets stuck on the logo. doesnt go any further.

Have tried taking the battery out, tried running ADB shell commands ..device not connected errors.

Hopefully theyl try to replace it. Optus Australia that is. Its amazing that I didnt even brick it trying to flash something. Simply trying to access the 3 button recovery bricked it. Phone is 3 weeks old.

I feel so frustrated.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] :
Which samsung customer service told you this? Because samsung usa support told me the exact opposite.....that it should work and I can send my phone in for a reflash. But I don't trust that they're telling me the truth because think about it. All these phones in multiple countries/providers with the same problem? That would mean Samsung has terrible quality control.....which they may anyway. This is my first (and prob my last) samsung phone so I can't speak from experience with them.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] abumuqaatil:
I just spoke to Samsung Customer Service in Australia . A techie by the name of Romina told me that the Recovery mode is not a supported feature and users should not be accessing it. I mentioned that it is a supported feature since Keis instructs me to do this in the event of a flash failure. The rep then told me I didnt have the latest Firmware thats why it wasnt enabled. So I asked what the latest firmware was. The said JG4. I said I had JG4. I told them they didnt know what they were talking about and they said they cant help me at all. I was so angry with them. They said just take it to a service centre if it ever gets bricked.

Do you think this is reasonable ? Do I have a basis for a case against them with ACCC or TIO ?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
send them to the confirmation from facebook samsung canada, they said it'll be fixed
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Devhux:
Just a quick update here. Looks like the few times I've gotten into download mode were a fluke. I'm guessing my case was like those who have said they tried everything they could, and then one particular method got them in there (once).

Let's hope Samsung Canada gets a fix out to us soon (and apologies for getting anyone's hopes up). :(
[Galaxy S I9000 General] pgn:
Samsung Belgium.

Also, my firmware is JM2 - isn't JM6 the latest? Kies says "this phone can not be updated" - thats why i want to re-flash it with factory samsung - although both samsung and proximus denies this - the firmware seems to have some provider modifications apart from the CSC. They say it can not have youtube on it for some legal reasons. Unbelievably frustrating.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Betts:
I got one of the 3 button disabled phones through Virgin. Its an Optus phone as it has all the Optus apps installed. I ended up bricking it when trying a lag fix. It would boot past the logo then just stay on a black screen.

I took the phone back where I bought it and they are replacing it under ELF as it was 13 days old with no questions asked. If anyone else gets one of these phones I suggest if there is no 3 button recovery take it back within the 14 days and they have to replace it. I just hope my replacement has the 3 buttons enabled.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] pgn:
Here are the magic words for when tier 1 support gals and guys arrive too quickly at a point where they contradict themselves and/or where they just say they can not help you : 1) " i am recording this conversation " & 2) escalate ( to higher tier support or manager )

Also, i noticed how every support person seems to have a different idea about which is the latest firmware for the phone. JG{1-4} , JM{1-6} ...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] bhermans:
Just fyi:

I had a phone with the '3 button method' disabled.

I bricked it (not on purpose) and sent it back for repair.

They replaced the main PCB and now the method works.

edit: apparently they replaced the 8gb I bought, with a 16gb version. little mistake on their side :p
[Galaxy S I9000 General] sturmeh:
You sure they didn't just replace the phone? :P
[Galaxy S I9000 General] abumuqaatil:
Good news for you all. Just spoke to the Optus Technician thats been on my case for the last week and he just told me that Optus and Samsung have now realized and accepted that this is a fault with the phone and Samsung is currently working on a fix to address this problem due to the high number of people that have complained about this issue as well as bricked phones.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] bhermans:
The log they attached said they replaced the PCB, but yeah, can't know for sure of course.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mengsuan:
My batch number is 92. Phone from Singtel. Recovery is disabled.

How safe would it be to root and apply lagfix on a recovery-disabled phone?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Prostheta:
Just took my SGS back to DNA after the phone bricked (locked up at the B+W logo). It's been 14 days since I received the phone, and DNA are refusing to replace over the counter before it goes back to their service centre although they would if I had asked them to do so within the first 7 days....odd since the problem existed at the time of purchase!

I am adamant that they address the lack of (boot accessible) recovery mode as a primary issue, not the bricking. IE. replacement of item not fit for use at the time of purchase, not a warranty repair from bricking.

Bleh. It's a great phone and I'm unbelievably disappointed that Samsung dropped the ball on this one.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] bigl666:
teyre working on it, they did not drop the ball - latest news from facebook:

Samsung Mobile Canada: Thanks to everyone for your continued patience and feedback as we work through the three-button reset issue on the Galaxy S Vibrant. Rest assured, it is a top priority. Please stay tuned for updates this week."
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Prostheta:
I didn't realise that Facebook had become the official voice of Samsung, plus I read that earlier on in the thread, by the way. :-/

Next time my car breaks down, I'll check Facebook in case an official recall is declared through their fan forum as opposed to the dealership or the manufacturer's official CS representation.

Just kidding, or at least 50%. I'm not holding my breath, let's face it.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] sturmeh:
Several sources (not official) from within whirlpool (claiming to be working for optus/virgin and in contact with service reps) have claimed that the download and recovery modes of these phones have been deliberately disabled as per request of the carrier.

'Although none of the reasoning provided makes sense. Looks like it was either a higher up with some very unclear judgement or this is truly a hardware issue.

Evidence like this makes the hardware issue more plausible, but it's still possible that they have seen the gravity of the decision they made and are attempting to cover it up by addressing it as such.

I hope it's resolved, but at the moment it looks like the AUS phones are climbing from a currently 33% factory blocked rate. ( According to a Whirlpool poll anyway. )
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Prostheta:
Short-sighted decisions on the behalf of carriers sounds plausible. It's a misguided step towards trying to prevent unlocking phones from their networks perhaps, or maybe our scary unlocked flashed efficient and powerful telco devices scare our carriers. Hah.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
well we made record time, the phone was unlocked in about 3 weeks from release date in Canada :D since I posted the bounty for it.

Original Bell I9000M unlock topic with Bounty

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=747235
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ianrush:
Received a Galaxy through my provider in Austria (three Hutchison) and the productiondate of the battery is 18th of august 2010, so it should be from one of the newest batches. Earlier batches had it removed or it wasn't working. So there is not really any consistencie in which devices have it working.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] sturmeh:
So far there has been no increase or decrease of the models, approximately 1/3rd of the phones in australia are getting it.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] alumine:
I don't think mine works either (got it from allphones outright but has Optus apps on it - not even a week old) :(

Edit: After several unsuccessful tries, the phone sometimes disables the touchscreen. The only way to get around this is by taking the battery off and putting it on again.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Ian_Cog:
I received my phone from Orange UK two days ago.

I've been trying since then to do the three button boot, but to no avail.

I just phoned Orange and am getting it replaced, the operator agreed with me that a phone with development capabilities is useless, if you can't get in to develop it.

Fingers crossed the next one works.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Prostheta:
I hope you managed to get the operator's name and that statement in writing! That's quite a bold statement for them to make off the cuff.

I myself am concerned that by having rooted my phone, there is the potential for DNA/Samsung to not honour a repair/replacement under my 3BR-lacking handsets warranty after accidentally (or ignorantly; you choose) having thrown the unit into a bootscreen loop, unresponsive to ADB or anything. My angle is that a repair/replacement should be honoured on the basis of a pre-existing fault rendering the unit unfit for use at the time of sale.

Shame they're sending you your replacement unit by post Ian (I presume Orange are doing that?) as picking one up from an outlet would allow you to check the unit and reject it if not satisfactory.

On another note - I'm warmly surprised at the loyalty of SGS development users over this flaw/butchering of our weapon of choice. I think that says a lot about the underlying quality of the unit (3BR disability notwithstanding) and the Android platform should be applauded for (hopefully) winning through this hiccup.

A little more transparency and less contradictory information from Samsung and carriers would be nice, however. I feel that a lot of us (myself included) are waiting for a nebulous solution to arrive "out of the clouds" so we can brush this nefarious cockup under the rug, and that we are being treated as less important than lay-users who would never need to know about 3BR.

That concludes my rant for this morning, and has resulted in my cynical signature of choice also.

Peace (if I get my SGS replaced, that is).
[Galaxy S I9000 General] el3ctronick:
rooting does not affect the activation of recovery mode.

if the air condition of your car stops working and its under warranty, can they deny fixing for free if you have changed your wheels?:S you should get a replacement imo.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] sturmeh:
If it's stated in the toa and it costs them money, they don't care about ethics.

That's why they occasionally let it slide.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Prostheta:
The lag fix and rooting utility I used warned that rooting the phone can (and most likely will) invalidate the phone warranty. I am claiming my replacement based on the lack of 3BR, which isn't a warranty issue. Just to clarify.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] sturmeh:
Ye, but if you brick your phone by using those before returning it on the 3BR basis then it is void.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Ian_Cog:
My replacement arrived 10 minutes ago and the 3BR is disabled on this one as well.

I can only assume it's something Orange UK have done to the Firmware and continuing to change phones will be a pointless task.

I'm confident that someone in development will come up with a work around soon.

For now, I'll just have to put up with it.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] m3s_4ev3r:
I myself can't enter recovery mode.... I am at orange romania... I think that they won't change my phone because of this.

I understand samsung disabling this to discourage people whoo want to root their phones.

Isn't there another way to enable the 3br? I am talking here about modifying the underlying firmware in some way to allow the 3br to work. That rotld be a big problem solver.... The change samsung made is surely software, not hardware..

What doh you people say about this, am I rambling useless?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] anarchyuk:
can someone check this for me and let me know if it does anything to your phone, do the 3 button combo and let the samsumg logo re appear 3 times on the 3rd let go of all 3 buttons and see what happens, this is what someone at samsung told me to do this morning but done f all!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Ian_Cog:
Didn't work for mine.

It just went to normal boot mode and the Orange logo.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] almi88:
I've tried it... it doesn't do anything to my device :(... there must be a way to enable 3 button recovery... I found something... When with your device offline put the usb cable in and press vol up+vol down and you will here on the pc the sound of usb connection and after a second usb disconects.... Maybe a dev can figure out how to enable recovery :D
[Galaxy S I9000 General] anarchyuk:
you dont need to even press that combo just leave it plugged in with the data cable in and you will hear that noise

this is what linux sees when you do that

Bus 003 Device 008: ID 058b:0041 Infineon Technologies

this compnay does supply microcontrollers etc and after further google searching seems infineon flashing software for certain samsung handsets existhttp://www.infineon.com/cms/en/product/index.html

it comes out of that mode fairly quickly though and disconnects, here is the kernel dump of it

could be something a samsumg flashing box uses and soon as it sees that it sends a signal and puts the phone in a recovery mode?

[ 4385.156083] usb 3-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 9
[ 4385.319104] usb 3-2: New USB device found, idVendor=058b, idProduct=0041
[ 4385.319113] usb 3-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0
[ 4399.973107] usb 3-2: USB disconnect, address 9
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ivas75:
Re enabled 3 button recovery function!!!!

I believe I just discovered something really interesting.

My i9000 is bought from UK and it had the 3 button recovery function enabled.

After trying many different roms and lag fixes, i ended on using JG5.

Today I decided to change (via *#272*HHMM#) the product code from KOR to COS (to prepare for official update in Greece).

After changing the product code, the 3 button function was disabled. I panicked!!! :eek:

Then I changed to CYO. Still disabled!!! :eek:

Then I returned to product code KOR. Miraculously recovery and download modes were re enabled:D

I am 1000% sure that when using COS and CYO product codes, recovery mode function was not working (meaning there was no error on pressing the buttons).

So, probably someone has to match the product code with the one the phone should have, to re enable 3 button recovery mode.

I cannot guarantee tha this will work for you, but it did for me. It is an excellent case of disabling the recovery mode on a phone that it worked, without needing to change roms
[Galaxy S I9000 General] almi88:
My device's product code is ORO. I bought it from Orange Romania and it is locked on network... if I change the product code will it damage my device in any way?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] alis333:
can you explain how I can change product code?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] almi88:
You tipe in the dialer *#272*HHMM# where hh is hour and mm are minutes at the time that you are doing it...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Ian_Cog:
I type that in and get a box at the top with ORA in it. At the bottom is two buttons 'Install' and 'Cancel'.

How do I change the ORA to KOR or whatever, there's no text entry facility?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] almi88:
Below that box I have a list with multiple codes where I can select one and press install...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] alis333:
my product code is XSP and there isn't KOR in the list.what do these words mean and what is deference between them?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] sturmeh:
You might want to play it easy on the flashing.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Ian_Cog:
So, basically, I'm stuck with this phone as it is. Is that what you're saying?

The only reason I got it was to unlock, debrand it and install 2.2 on it.

I'd have stuck with my sim free HTC Hero otherwise.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] guido45:
I just got my Orange SGS yesterday and no 3-button boot either :( Hope someone can come up with a way round this

I have managed to debrand it though, using the reg hack and Kies update.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Ian_Cog:
Can you run me through the reg hack and how to use it on kies please?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] guido45:
Use at your own risk etc etc!! I am not responsible or anything that happens...this is for ORANGE UK ONLY and MAY DELETE EVERYTHING ON YOUR PHONE :eek:

Plug in your phone and start Kies. Open the firmware update, it will say "This device's version cannot be updated". Close firmware update and open Regedit.

Go to HKey_current_user\Software\Samsung\Kies\DeviceDB\ and then check one of the subkeys (mine was "2") for the correct IMEI and ProductCode "GT-I9000HKDORA".

Change:

ProductCode to "GT-I9000HKDXEU" (without quotes) and change

HIDSWVER to "I9000XXJF3/I9000OXAJF3/I9000XXJF3/I9000XXJF3" (again without quotes)

Reopen the Kies Firmware update and press Ctrl-Alt-U-P to get into Test mode and you should see an update.

Once complete, dial *#272*HHmm# (where HHmm is the time in 24h) and it will take you to a menu where you should scroll down and choose XEU and Install. The phone will then reboot with no Orange crap! :) This should take you to JM1.

(I lost my Gmail and Exchange server settings during this process but seemed to be able to access the Orange network so obviously kept the APN settings. I don't have any apps installed so no idea if those would remain. YMMV)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Prostheta:
Warranty repair/replacement is a different kettle of fish to product rejection. If you are sold a product which is not fit for use at the time of sale (such as an SGS not having a vital function working correctly) then the warranty doesn't come into it. That is a primary consumer right (dependant on country of course) not a secondary right as deigned by Samsung.

It's not immediately obvious as to the difference, but your primary consumer rights cannot be overridden by any unreasonable terms of sale or warranty. At least in the UK and Finland anyway - I can't comment on consumer rights in other countries of course!

In the UK, you can reject a product as unfit for use if it does not conform to contract at the time of sale. Without quoting entire tracts of the Sales of Goods Act 1979 c.54, it is useful to refer to Part 2 (section 14, section 15 useful if you bought based on a fully functioning store demo model), Part 5A (sections 48A, 48B) and other sections referred to by those here. I'm sure that most other countries have similar consumer protection rights with a similar basis.

Unless you specifically and knowingly waive certain consumer rights at the time of sale, or are aware that something like 3BR was disabled on your phone then you are protected and fully within your rights to reject the goods as not conforming to contract.

Of course, this doesn't mean you can go smashing up your Toyota Yaris and reject the goods as not conforming to contract because the power steering pump was faulty at the time of sale. That said, you might still get a new power steering pump. Hah.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Ian_Cog:
@guido45 Thanks for that. I'll give it a go.

OK I done it.

Lost everything on the phone, but that's all backed up. But got rid of Orange bloatware, which was the main point. Thanks again for that.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] el3ctronick:
visit the page in fb to see the link
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
they updated their page

http://www.facebook.com/samsungmobilecanada

apparently they released the JH2 again but including a SPL fix, so people already on JH2 will need to flash back to JG8 or something, then flash forward to JH2 again to get the new SPL fix
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Frostshock:
Hot dog I can't wait to try it. I knew being too lazy to wipe for JH2 would pay off. All we need now is confirmation this isn't a hack in this specific ROM and flashing to another will retain the functionality.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Moxen21:
If I have a xxjm1 version can I also use the new jh2 to fix the 3br problem? because when I read the page on facebook they definitely state that this is only for the canadian vibrant..

help please? (to someone who is very very new on android and is afraid of bricking his new phone :P)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] omiks3:
im not sure if i should take my phone back to optus which i arranged yesterday or maby just wait till the end of the month an samsng australia might posibly do the same a samsung canada and put us all out of our greef lol
[Galaxy S I9000 General] sturmeh:
Can we get a confirmation on the permanency of the Bell fix?

I just got my hands on a Optus Australia phone with the 3BR issue, and I'm displeased to say the least, but I'll hold onto it if I have a hope.

Also why have devs been unable to make any progress on this, is it possible to compare the original JH2 to the new JH2 and someone extract a generic patch to fix everyone's recovery problems?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Frostshock:
I was under the impression that the issue was trying to flash a new bootloader with Odin. Now that Samsung is doing it through Kies I'm sure it will be figured out.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] sturmeh:
Hm, maybe there's a way to write-lock the boot-loader so Odin doesn't overwrite it.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] wavemechanic:
Chatted online with an optus business rep today to ask how much the new samsung tablet will be (about the same as a Galaxy, expect a $49 plan for it), also asked if & when froyo for the galaxy is coming on optus. He said OTA update will be in first week in september!

Sorry if this is old news. I can post a copy of the conversation if anyone wants it, I printscreened it but forgot to paste & lost it..

Anyway, good news!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] alovell83:
I think this might be slightly outdated. Initial rumors pointed that Galaxy S would be getting Froyo in Korea before the end of August with it rolling out internationally in September. The rumor was so strong that the news media weere saying that the local carrier was aiming to give unlimited data and encourage tethering after an August Froyo release.

There are only 3 business days remaining in Korea, so that rumor seems to be coming and going without being fulfilled. Also, the rumor mill here hasn't been hot, which I expected it would be by now if we were indeed getting this in August.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] wavemechanic:
My post referred only to Optus users in Australia.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] moosamm:
Hope this is true, I can't wait for an official release of Froyo.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] PhoenixFx:
Thanks for the heads up :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rmdeathwish:
Hi there....

i got my hd2 recently and lovin each sec of it...

One prob though...

the standard headphones are crap... i hate them

i travel a lot in my car and keep my phone connected to my stereo... when a call comes i can hear the audio... but since its a normal jack... there is no option for the microphone to work.. let me explain.... with the car stereo jack connectd... i cannot use the mic.. ...

Is there a way to use the normal mic of my HD2 while i have standard headphones connected???

Please help me out.... i drive in alot of traffic and cannot disconnect my phone all the time and answer calls....

:confused::confused: