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[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Think about this...

The phone is $500. So without TEP you pay $500 for a new one.

Now with TEP, you pay $100. Ahh? But it gets better...

$500-$100=$400

$400/$7=57 months, hmmm...where am I going with this?

Well, lets just say that statistics show that 9/10 people will have a problem with their phone. And that a person who hasn't had a problem with their phone in 10 years is more likely to have something go wrong with their phone then a person who comes in everyday to my store complaining about something. But what about the 57 months???

Well if you are lucky enough to survive without any problems what so ever with your phone for 57 months, then you can send me a message and say you made a good deal in not getting TEP. Because heck, it takes one time without TEP that you want the same phone again, that you blow your entire budget on a brand new Epic. And that is 57 months worth of coverage, with a $100 deductible.
[Epic 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
I don't think I know someone that owns the same phone for 57 months... where did you come up with that figure?
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Hahaha, I'm a sales rep for Sprint. It's what I do. And yes normally people don't own their phone for 57 months, thats the point. Accidents happen all the time, at any moment. And TEP has your phone covered, no matter which one for a lifetime.

My boss originally came up with the formula. Scott Kennedy, and he was one of the best sales reps Nextel ever had. And now he has me for Sprint.

(We are an indirect dealer, and we still can't even order the Evo yet, let alone sell it.)
[Epic 4G General] JUST2SUAVE:
a senior citizen or a older person would, lol, im in college, we change phones like underwear.
[Epic 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
I'm a Retention Supervisor for Sprint :) I was just wondering the randomness for the figure, even though I understand it, the longest i've seen an account with the same phone for is 36 months
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
No no, it's not that the user uses it for 57 months.

400 divided by 7 is 57. Which is accounting for using TEP one time and spending $100 to replace the phone. So if you don't have to use TEP at all, and you have a perfectly fine device that last 57 months without problems. You made a good deal by not getting TEP. But if you have to replace you phone what so ever without TEP. That is $500, cash money out of your pocket to get the same phone. And accidents happen...all the time. In fact I had to use my TEP twice in the past 2 months. It would have cost me $220 under normal circumstances, but the ESRP had me covered for free both times.
[Epic 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Dependent on the phone as well. Some deductibles are $50 ;) and the equation (and pardon my ignorance) still makes no sense to me... If I spend $100 on a phone (after rebates, savings or whatever the case) and I have to use insurance, for example after 6 months then I would have ended up paying either $236 or $186, dependent on the deductible. If I buy the Epic, I spend $250, use insurance after one year then I spent $84 on insurance, $100 for deductible making my total cost $434, in which case i'd be eligible for an upgrade anyway making insurance almost pointless.
[Epic 4G General] b15love:
do the math and you will see the point. 7 * 24 = 168 + 100 deductible = 268, still cheaper than full retail(no contract) and you paid about 250 for the device, thats a few more dollars than the retail price.

an no company is in business to lose money..
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
True, but I'm also using the worst case scenario as well. I have yet to use the insurance. But then again why keep paying $7? Because you never know when you could drop your phone in the water again, or break the screen...or even have it stolen! That's just one side to the board though. Then you have your keypad going bad, or your screen goes white, or your phone doesn't boot up anymore, or even the little blinking light stops blinking. Even if you software starts freezing up and you have no idea what to do...well TEP is there for you ;). Free reliable Service and Repair, included in the $7 a month fee. And if they can't fix it...they will send for a refurbished model.
[Epic 4G General] JUST2SUAVE:
in that case, its not free service and repair, its paid for service and repair, by way of tep.
[Epic 4G General] b15love:
err

errr
[Epic 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Assuming you take care of your phone, the 1 year manu warranty is all your need. My phone i've had 11 months without a single scratch, im coming up on my upgrade, when my phone breaks i'll just buy a new one beacuse i'm smart enough to take care of my phones - then again, most people are not and accidents do happen.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Falls back on one of my original statements. People who haven't had a problem at all with their phones at all and take excellent care of them, are more prone to something happening just because nature says so. It's the law of big numbers. You can only get lucky so many times before it fails. A person who has his phone replaced is less likely, as statistic show, to have something happen to his phone then I person who has had nothing go wrong in the past 6 months to 10 years
[Epic 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
There's a big difference between chances and statistics. Everyone has the same chance of breaking their phones regardless of how long they've had the phone or how many times they've replaced the phone.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Exactly. **** happens for no reason. Seriously.

I guy I know who takes perfect care of his phone. Was texting while driving. He put the phone down on his lap. Well he parked his car and got out. Phone fell to the ground and WHAM! Broken phone. $100 got him a new one. However without it, he had a Samsung Moment so that would have cost him $400 at the time it happened had he not had TEP. But I mean that's just one time
[Epic 4G General] ls3mach:
This might be the most asinine **** I have ever read.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
And tht was an asinine comment. Take statistics or gain some common sense because it's true stuff. It's just common knowledge to realize that stuff happens and it can happen to anyone at any given time.
[Epic 4G General] DevilDogVIKING:
If I buy it at BestBuy can I still get TEP or do I have to go with BestBuy insurance?

I was in a sprint store and they were trying to convince me it is better to buy the phone in a sprint store. I want to buy it at BestBuy since it would be $100 cheaper right off the bat.
[Epic 4G General] ravizzle:
U can add tep at best buy, ur not limited to their insurance
[Epic 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Just make sure they add it, because they never do. Make them show you their screen
[Epic 4G General] spongaweb:
Ok were playing probabilities right...?

Lets say that most of the time it will be a broken shattered screen and not something deeper internal.

For those of us who are on the technical side, will it be easy to open this thing and replace it for cheaper?

I don't even know if the screens are out for it or if they are some standard punched out screens, so there is most likely not any price for the screens. What you guess $60.

I like the 1-year argument though.

Also for theft you might want to check out Mobile Defense, it will allow you to track your phone if it is stolen/lost. It is free now but they may eventually come out of beta and charge a fair price hopefully. Check it out, it saved my phone once.
[Epic 4G General] ls3mach:
Exactly. Things happen and can happen at any given time. Just because you have not had something happen to you for a while does not make you more likely for an incident to occur. You aren't "due" a bad occurrence. People who are more cautious are less likely to have something bad happen to their device.

Your story about the guy breaking his phone, he isn't cautious he is texting while driving.

Don't come in here trying to big league people. You do not have a degree as a Statistician, if you did you would know you could make a substantial amount more than being a lowly salesman for a third party retailer.
[Epic 4G General] radar5:
I don't know how to take that. I had some friends in college who did not change their underwear very often...
[Epic 4G General] lviv73:
Im thinking about getting Epic instead of Vibrant,im with tmobile right now but thinking of going with sprint.I have 2 questions,does sprint have 10GB data cap,and is monthly price on pair or cheaper than tmobile?I spoke to sprint rep and he said that 10GB cap is only on sprint modems not on phones,but reps will tell you anything so i dont trust them,to make it short is everyone happy with sprint's service?

I know its the wrong thread but i dont want to waste space by starting new one.Thanx in advance.
[Epic 4G General] Khemul:
The implied warranty really doesn't apply here. For one, you already have the express warranty, which covers the product for what is generally considered a 'reasonable amount of time' in the electronics industry. But even if you manage to successfully argue that 2 years is a reasonable lifetime, the implied warranty still isn't going to cover what TEP does. Implied warranty doesn't cover loss of the device or damage caused by the consumer.

As for insurance costing more then benefiting. Of course it does. It isn't meant to be the other way around. Flip it around and the business model is just plain impossible. Insurance isn't meant to be looked at from a cost/benefit perspective. It is meant to be looked at from a risk/benefit perspective.

Basically, you will probably never use it. But if you do need it and don't have it then you will pay a much higher amount (2.7x as much in 1 year). You can never know statistically (at least not legally) whether you will ever need it or not.
[Epic 4G General] apfrost:
I purchased the Best Buy warranty on my Epic. It's an extra $9.99 a month and has no deductible. Can't really beat that deal.
[Epic 4G General] Fixter:
Does it cover Water Damage? Stole? Stolen?
[Epic 4G General] Khemul:
I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I understand it it is just warranty repair coverage with the option of a free battery replacement if you pick the right plan.

I guess if you don't have a Sprint store nearby that can do repairs. Or just don't want to go through Sprint for repairs.
[Epic 4G General] pissinguoff247:
Best Buy Black Tie

I had Sprint's TEP on my old phone, a Samsung Intrepid. I go through phones quick - I'm very hard on them (bike riding, hiking, beach, accidental trips through the washer/drier, etc.), plus I have a dog who has some magic ability to find and eat the most expensive things I own. Without insurance I would have paid way more than I did in replacing phones. When I got my Epic @ BB, they pushed the Black Tie protection. It doesn't cover theft or loss (I've never, ever lost a phone [knock on wood]) but covers all damage, wear and tear, etc - with no deductible. IMHO, for the $3 more per month their Black Tie costs over Sprint's TEP - it's worth it. They also give you a new phone, not refurbs - and they'll give you a loaner if your phone is out of stock.
[Epic 4G General] tokyomonster:
I'm going with Sprint's insurance coverage. Best Buy's is great and all, but it doesn't cover lost or stolen equipment, while Sprint's does.
[Epic 4G General] mc-fine:
I never buy insurance on phones. You've got 1 yr manufacturer warranty already. Suppose you last a year before something happens you will pay $184 so you can get a refurbished phone someone else has handled like **** for the past 8 months. You complain and ask for replacement and get another shady refurb.

Too many people treat their phones like crap and I have worked in the industry and seen people with countless returns recycling refurbs. I'll take my chances with mine fresh out the box than someone's old phone which has been trashed cause they know they had TEP.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jakuta:
Had no problems until this evening. Now when I plug the Vibrant into the PC via USB cable I cannot see/access the Vibrant drives. Windows 7 shows the Vibrant in Device Manager and says no issues. Rebooted both. Uninstalled Vibrant from Device Manager and plugged it back in. Still not showing my drives. Help? TIA
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rudeguy:
you did select "mount usb" from the notification bar.....right?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jakuta:
Bingo!

Thanks! Didn't know about this because before it seemed automatic but that was the problem!
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gclough:
Hi all,

First thing, if this is the wrong forum to post this in then I must apologise wholeheartedly and ask to be pointed in the right direction.

I did try the Rom developers forum but have had no replies so far.

I have an SE x1i, WinMo 6.1 and Software version R3AA013. I hope I got that correct.

It's a great phone but I'm now finding little improvements that I would like to have to suit my needs.

What I am trying to achieve is to have an on screen icon similar to the enable/disable flight mode icon, that finds out the state of a few certain system settings and change them to an alternative state.

I would like to have a "car mode" icon that, with one touch, enables bluetooth functionality and at the same time changes an advanced power setting so that, while in "car mode" and on battery power, the "Turn of device if not used for xx min" is unchecked.

With a second touch of that "car mode" icon, those settings are reversed.

I am trying to find out (a) is it possible, (b) has someone already done it, (c) could I do it myself?

I could achieve this on my PC as I have had some experience with VB6 about 6 years ago but have not kept up with it or the changes in programming.

I know pretty much nothing about Windows mobile. It seems very similar in some aspects but also very different in other aspects to other windows operating systems.

For that matter, pretty close to the same applies to smart phones as well.

I hope I have explained myself clearly.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers and thanks,

Graeme.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] metk@:
Maybe this program: http://www.ageye.de/index.php?s=gprofile/about ?
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gclough:
Thanks Xera, will have a look at this. From what I've read, it seems to do what I want.

Will repost when tested.

Cheers,

Graeme.

Sorry mtek@,

Got your name wrong.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] You stole Boo Boo's Name:
I have tried different wimax 26023 radios but it will not flash.

I was able to flash teh regular radio it just doesnt let me update wimax even though it says it updated when I do it through the recovery console and to reboot.

is there something I am doing wrong?

any help be appreciated

I checked to see what my firmware was through adb shell

Check Firwmare Version (4.6.2.2v25641_) ........ 4.6.2.2v25641_
[Streak 5 General] gilrad:
From what I have been able to find out so far, its not so uncommon for high-powered smartphones to get warm when doing cpu-intensive activities.

Does that mean mine is operating normally when it force-restarts 15-20 minutes into an 800mb video file in Rock Player? Seems kind of strange considering this is a media tablet...

Is anybody able to get through large video files okay, or am I going to have to start investing in gel-ice packs?
[Streak 5 General] flumps:
could be you got a dodgy unit there mate. ive not had that problem at all. i can watch .avi/.mkv pretty much all day without much heat problems.
[Streak 5 General] gilrad:
Well that's a real bummer, considering mine doesn't have a warranty (second hand beta device).

But now I'm curious about ways to fix or mitigate the issue. Do smartphone processors/ram (could be either that's causing trouble, considering they're both in the same region) generally give off large amounts of heat, managed by cleverly placed heat sinks to spread it out? Or could you cover it in insulation and still have it run cold in high-demand activities?

My line of thought goes something like this: Considering the ifixit guide looks only slightly scary, perhaps I could tear my phone apart and either repair any bad connections with heat sinks if they exist, or create a makeshift heat sink out of aluminium foil and processor paste that could hopefully spread the heat out to the cooler regions of the phone.

Too crazy?

-edit - Looks like I was on the right track on bad contact with the heat sinks! After folding up a sheet of aluminium foil and wedging it between the Streak and the battery cover over the proc/ram area, the extra pressure seems to be effective in pressing the heat sink against the affected chip. I am getting much more external temperature, and a (relatively cool) 34 degrees (31 with my room's AC on) after a 45-minute video that normally would quit at around 16 minutes.

'Course, now its tougher than snot to insert/remove the battery case, and I have this unsexy bulge where the battery cover bends around the extra junk, but I'm just pleased as punch that I can watch documentaries on my hour-long train ride to work every day. And if this method ever loses effectiveness, I can always live on the dangerous side and try injecting some processor paste into the heat sinks.

I feel so relieved now! This is almost as good as the time I fixed my broken graphics card with duct tape :)
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jbroderick:
Does anyone have links for the packages for Adobe Flash and Google Earth?

I am using KaosFroyo v31 and I can't see it in the market place.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kdorsey:
see the KaosFroyo FAQ for details on Flash...
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jbroderick:
Thanks. I think I over looked it.

Any info on Google earth. If its device specific then I guess our xda devs are working on a fix/port?
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smokedkill:
I have google earth.apk but its never ran when I had it installed and no flash yet.
[Captivate General] kismmisk:
Guys,

I jus bought Samsung Captivate. I am new to this.

Is data plan required to use Google maps/Google navigation/GPS on samsung captivate?

If yes, then what is meant by integrated GPS. On wirefly site it says pre-loaded google maps. Should not it behave like normal GPS then?

My GPS does not work unless 3G data or wi-fi (in short internet is on) enabled. I get the lock pretty fast if 3G data or wi-fi enabled. If I turn them off I keep getting message data connection lost.

I block my 3G data using APNDroid or JuiceDefender.

TIA.
[Captivate General] maedondias:
ahh technically/theoretically? If you can get a maps program that has an offline cache of files, then no data wouldn't be required. I recall spotting some google map cachers and I think there was an extra android app or two you could use that utilize some sort of downloaded maps. MapDroyd looks like a familair name but I can't speak for any of them since I just stream with google and never tried anything offline anyhow.
[Captivate General] alphadog00:
The program "Google Maps" is preloaded, but Google Maps requires a data connection. The GPS chip itself is integrated and you can get your Latitude and Longitude without needing a data connection.

So, yes you have Integrated GPS and Google Maps, but you need a data connection to use Google Maps in real time navigation or just pulling up a map.

As mentioned above, if you want to do mapping without a data connection then you need a way to store maps on your phone - All of North America usually takes up few gigs of space depending on the application.
[Captivate General] sblees:
Att will automatically recognize your phone as a smart phone and will add a data plan. I don't think there is a way around it.
[Captivate General] 8525Smart:
I do not know what 'preloaded' Google Maps is, but yes, Google Maps/Navigator does require data. If you want a GPS software that uses only the GPS chip (and no data), there are software that does that. Personally, I prefer CoPilot Live.
[Captivate General] kismmisk:
Thanks all for your replies and answers! It helped.
[Streak 5 Accessories] lifeinhand:
I wish to buy HDMI Dock just want to play avi movie on HD TV.

So will it works if we connect Dell Streak with HDMI Dock and play it on big screen with Rockplayer?
[Streak 5 Accessories] Troute:
I've seen a review of the home dock that says only the Dell video player supports hdmi atmo, but I suppose you can always try Rockplayer and see when the time comes.
[Streak 5 Accessories] lufc:
At present only the stock will play over the dock i convert the videos if i want to play them through the dock :)
[Streak 5 Accessories] lifeinhand:
I'm not in UK or US, where could i find a cheaper price than ebay $110 like now?
[Streak 5 Accessories] lufc:
Sorry only Dell or the odd one on ebay for a daft amount :)
[Streak 5 Accessories] wrs3srw:
please help

I'm running DJ Steve 1.9.0 but I'm missing the stock Dell Media Player so I can use the HDMI on the dock, Any body got the APK or link to it, thanks guys.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jdyates:
MyTouch Trackball questions and ideas

Alright, I hope i don't sound like an a$$hole, but I, for one, am SICK and TIRED of my MyTouch not making use of the THREE (R,B,G to make white, correct?) LED's under it's trackball. Now i have a few questions,

1. Why hasn't it CM included trackball lighting/changing colors in his ROM? If it was done for the N1, how hard would it be to do it on the MyTouch?

2. HOW was it done for the Nexus? I noticed that "Trackball Alert Pro" just changed the LED color (top of phone, in the ear speaker slot), therefore, shouldn't it be as simple as to "tell" the app to use the MyTouch's trackball instead of the Nexus' trackball?

Now, the lights on some Motorola's (the Razr series, the Z3, V360), (the BT LED's, charging LED's, flashlights, etc.) were controlled by FLP files (basically .txt files) that you could edit manually or an FLP editor, so HOW is the Nexus' trackball light controlled? Is it a script, file, is it the kernel? Couldn't the same concept be applied to the MyTouch?

Also, i remember on the T-Mobile forums, a user called "BreakTheCycle2" (here's on XDA too, i think), developed a "script" to change the trackball light colors, and i sent him a PM, but he never replied.

Now, PLEASE don't be hatin' (lol), but I'm a n00b and these are just IDEAS that are running through my head.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Ma5t3r89:
A white led is a white led, I strongly doubt there is any way to get primary colors out of it.

N1 trackball's led is a multicolor led, it's just different.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] eyegor:
Do you really think someone would put three leds to mimic the action of one?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jdyates:
I've seen a picture of a MyTouch motherboard, there are three LEDs under the trackball.

Sent from my MyTouch 1.2 using the XDA app
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Binary100100:
This is barely related to development. I am hoping that you are looking to develop a resolution to getting multiple colors. But if this is just a thread to complain about the lack thereof then I'll move it. Please explain what you are hoping to accomplish for posting this in a section dedication to the advancement of our devices other than complaining about the lack of because that could have been posted in General.

On another note since I haven't seen the three led's that you've mentioned I cannot speculate on whether this is or not a possibility. Ask yourself this... have you ever seen a color other than white on your trackball? So I'm inclined to say that it's not without modification of the hardware... yet I've been wrong before. But the MT3G has been out for a long time and it's popped in everyone's mind at least once. I'm sure that someone has looked into it and if the possibility was there we would be using it by now. Kind of like the getting bluetooth to work issue for Sapphire 32b Hero rom's. Until recently it was considered impossible. Yet it was discovered that you only need the 32A radio and kernel (compatible rom) to make it work. It took time, research, trial/error, patience and a few bricked phones to make such progress. This was for functionality. What you're wanting is only cosmetic. Not a real high priority.