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[XPERIA X10 General] waltah!:
Well the world lost an X10 owner and gained one as I just got mine yesterday (AT&T):p

I came from a Captivate and prefer the X10. It may have had 2.1, but it also had lousy reception and of course broken gps. It was a nice phone, but was kind of laggy among other things.

I would like to see an update to 2.1, but it's not a big deal as I also have a Nexus One.
[XPERIA X10 General] rmourar:
Good luck!

Men, I hope u like your new cell phone!!

I had a Nokia N95 and used to love it, but I honestly think that symbian is the one that is chasing the competition.... I agree that Sony is a little behind in system updates, but not all that much since they say that by the end of september (or hopefully earlier) x10 will have android 2.1....

I really think that symbian is a dead os, just forgot to lay down...

but then again, I hope you love your new cell phone as much as I love my x10!!

and YES, I want android 2.1 in it YESTERDAY!!!:D
[XPERIA X10 General] wrongfeifong:
i own several nokia phone... do they even update? i never seem to got one.
[XPERIA X10 General] phoneguy 4567:
Having owned a few Nokia's in the past I can tell you that Nokia upgrades generally consist of bug fixes & very little in the way of new features. This may not apply to the N8 because it is running the new Symbian 3 OS, & as such is likely to get plenty of updates. I would never want to own any 1.0 product I generally prefer to let someone else do the beta testing :).
[XPERIA X10 General] nameejokerx:
A new os with many new updates? Nah..

Nokia lie to us the customer.

I own n900 before. They promise us that it will be the first meego phone but suddenly it just only for developers and not the end users. Even the maemo only roll out few updates and still doesnt fix up some of the bug.

I used many phone from nokia and im really dissapointed at nokia but i will still hold to n900 and my x10 as both the phone itself good in many ways.
[XPERIA X10 General] ixemun:
Exactly, as far as I can remember (ex-Nokia user of 4 smartphones), there was never any updates other than bug fixes which barely do much of a difference, they lost my respect after the first generation of N-series, after N90 and N95, disappointed due to it being laggy and buggy, they don't make phones like they used to anymore sadly

I don't mind you leaving X10 but leaving android for symbian? you're mad xD
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
Basically, the numbers on paper weren't big enough for you?

Compensating for something?
[XPERIA X10 General] go3asy:
Nokia 3310 is where its at, witch a blue lightning cover
[XPERIA X10 General] devilleather:
Trust me im not mad about anything I just want the N8 with its 12mp camera and selling my x10 was a good way to get it. I do love android and I will get another android phone, for now I just want to try the N8. :)

PS Im not compensating for anything either LOL:D
[XPERIA X10 General] realunited123:
If no of megapixels is important i think you should go for this instead.. :)
[XPERIA X10 General] Tjotte:
I actually prefer the way SE work. I had an HTC before and seriously, how good is a phone that needs constant updates? Really? Should that be necessary? Imho that's the bad way to run your business! Take the time needed and refine the software before release, thats a serious business ib my eyes!
[XPERIA X10 General] -PiLoT-:
can I have your stuff
[XPERIA X10 General] PollPixx:
Ehhh, 12mp sounds Great, but on a cell phone your sensor is to small to profit from it fully. Don't think it make better pictures than a 10mp slr camera, its just a selling argument imo for the salesman. 12mp on a phone is really ridiculously over the top...
[XPERIA X10 General] roaringhere:
Like the other guy said, Good Luck with your Nokia and Symbian. I was with Symbian smartphone before and got bored to death with it. There's no fun using it. Sooo boring... :)
[XPERIA X10 General] theeedy:
This is just wrong. Yes its true that a 12MP smartphone sensor is not as good as a 12MP sensor in a DSLR. But 12MP do make a huge difference to the X10's 8MP. I owned a SE Satio before. It has also 12MP + xenon flash, and these photos were just great, much much better than the X10's.

But the symbian software is just crap. It was okay 2 years ago. Actually it was one of the best. But today its just old an not compete-able to iOS and Android. And the new Symbian^3 will be the same old ****.
[XPERIA X10 General] zhoustanley:
the n8 is pretty cool in that it can read/use a usb flash drive, 12mp camera (nokias make pretty good cameraphones, but so do SE), HDMI out which is a pretty cool feature,

that being said, i will wait for meego device before i switch over to nokia
[XPERIA X10 General] PollPixx:
Okay, I didn't test it, as I don't have that phone, but when I see a picture on 100% size in cs4 From my phone comparing it to the same picture I took with my 40d+24-105 the quality is not even close. Of course when you take a picture on your phone and watch it on your phone it looks good. But I wouldn't order a big size canvas of a picture taken by my phone. I know its not that important, but photography is a huge hobby of mine, so I was curious about the difference. I still keep at my statement that with the current sensors available for mobile phones 8mp/12mp is over the top...
[XPERIA X10 General] tuxStyle:
I had a NAM version of 5800.

The firmware updates for NAM versions were always released a month after the Europe/Asia versions.

Every time i was so pissed off.

Nokia are not bad phones.

I was pretty happy with my 5800 but if you went there for FW updates, i would say... no a smart idea.

It seems that HTC is doing the best at this chapter.
[XPERIA X10 General] POLO_i780:
I wish you the best of luck bud, the N8 does seem like an excellent multimedia smartphone, i was actualy originaly going to go with the N8 as i was a nokia user,i have a N80, N81 and 5800, and thought N8 would be mine next but then i saw the X10 with its 854x480 res 4"inch display, 1ghz cpu, android and customizability,so X10 seemed to suit my needs better and i got it, im so glad i got the X10 over N8,as Symbian just doesnt touch Android in terms of customizability, stability, apps, games etc... anyway i hope N8 will be good and suit you well :). Software updates are decent by Nokia,but as said all are mainly bug fixes,and they takeaway bugs and bring new ones in,it never ends,anyway goodluck.
[XPERIA X10 General] SoLt3c:
i had an HTC too and and i'm happy i replaced it with my x10

its better to have an update later then its released too soon.

the last update sorted the battery problem bigtime,the only prob i have so far is with the volume with the speaker when taking calls.

i wouldn't change it for any other phone atm :)
[XPERIA X10 General] chongbh:
Hi,

I am like you whom used HTC previously and I am glad to replace it with X10 as the build quality is better compared to my HTC device.

I am quite satisfied with the phone and I find it is quite hassle for the extra step when you locate a name from phonebook and you press the mobile number, it should call directly instead of copying the number to the dial pad and you need to press the call button again.
[XPERIA X10 General] RumpleStealthSkin:
Seriously?

Why not get a Canon PowerShot S95 for 399.99 instead? It's compact. It's only 10Mp but I bet you it takes better picture than the 12 Mp N8. Plus it takes 720p HD video.

Or, if you're really obsessed about Mp's, try Nikon coolpix S8000 instead. It has 14.4 Mp and flash for only $299.95

Replacing a fully-functioning phone with another phone for a 4 Mp difference, then buying another phone just doesn't make sense.
[XPERIA X10 General] Cinner:
A Nokia N8 with Android would have been cool. Nokia has some great hardware but Symbian looks so dated, even the newest version looks horrible.
[XPERIA X10 General] devilleather:
Would be amazing!! Could be possible?
[XPERIA X10 General] kr3w1337:
Congratulations on your downgrade.
[XPERIA X10 General] imoutits:
How is it a downgrade? Its camera is (much) better, it has a dedicated gpu (with OpenGLES 2.0 support), multi-touch(lol), and an os that can multi-task. I don't personally prefer Symbian, but you can't call it a downgrade.
[XPERIA X10 General] lkakarotto:
Yeah... but what can you do with that? Name a single app in the OVI store that is going to take advantage of that? It IS a downgrade in the end, paying for hardware that you'll never use.

Even if it had 1Ghz hummingbird, there's nothing worth being ran on that phone.

So yeah, it makes sense to spend that cash on an actual camera, if the only reason is the pixel count.
[XPERIA X10 General] POLO_i780:
It is indeed a downgrade, the only upgrade is the camera, EVERYTHING ELSE is a downgrade.

Android/X10 multitasks,and handles tasks far better than old Symbian. Multitouch in N8 is only in gallery and browser, hardly an advantage, and the X10's hardware supports OpenGL2.0, the software will get 2.0 when the X10 gets 2.1, we will probably have Android2.1 before the N8 is completely available globaly.

N8 is just another ARM11 abomination by Nokia, with a GPU thrown in lol, CPU intensive apps are going to lag on it.
[XPERIA X10 General] johndub71:
I was a hardcore nokia owner till they got worse. N95 was excellent, n96 was hopeless, n97 useless. I looked into the n900, but that had weird quirks, but I read someone put android on it. However, the meego os which was promised as an upgrade never came off. N8 does have a new symbian os, but its backwards compatible with s60. Soon as I read that, noooooo......

Hello android.
[XPERIA X10 General] apr1000:
i heard bout the nokia n8 around spring, and i was really obsessed with it.

i checked news/updates about it daily. and i knew i would get it when it came out

however 1 day i saw the x10 and decided i wanted it, so i decided to wait a month and compare.

eventually n8 videos came out on youtube, they were decent but the n8's browser is slooowwwwwww

so i decided on the x10

the n8 has a good gpu, but trust me playing games on a cell phone isn't very fun, and ovi isn't crap they have at least 8000 apps atm which i think is enough.

i know android has 70,000 apps and ios has 300000, but seriousely ive had both an ipod touch and my beautiful x10, and honestly most of those apps are worthless (at least the free ones) and you'll only actually use like 10-20

however the n8's cpu is like 2 years ago, and you'll hate it for that, the x10 is snappy dont mind what the reviews say about it being slow, go to youtube and type in xperia x10 vs. and you'll see which phone is better, thats how i decided to buy my x10,

i saw a few videos and its as fast as froyo n1, faster than incredible, a tad bit slower than galaxy s(but starts up faster and seems more stable)

only downside is it doesn't have multitouch
[XPERIA X10 General] fixedtrd:
I too was a hardcore Nokia fan. My first Nokia was the N90, then n95,e71,5800, the worse was the n97 and I now have a n900. The n900 is by far the best one out of all the Nokia I had in the past. Right now I have the n900, xperia x10 and a Hd2. The Symbian os is pretty old and outdated. Nothing new about it. But good luck on you new phone hope it works well for you.
[XPERIA X10 General] jimsey:
i too have given up waiting for the SE updates and bought a galaxy s, but i've given my x10 to the missus on the proviso that i may take it back once 2.1 is released.

she's ok with this because it would mean she gets the galaxy, which does have a gorgeous screen - and i'm not sure i want to give up the galaxy s screen, despite it's other shortcomings.

i'd love to combine both phones hardware and have HTC's support...

the desire HD sounds promising but it wont have super AMOLED...:confused:
[XPERIA X10 General] Hunch:
Well I'm sure nokia native applications do not lag, unlike timescape for example so 1GHz processor is great but SE native applications are not optimized compared to nokia native applications. I own X10 and I'm loving it but you have to judge fairly and not just be defending your phone disregarding its bad sides..
[XPERIA X10 General] POLO_i780:
Nokia's native apps do lag,most of them are clunky and resource hogs: Ovi Store and their Web browser on my 5800 are awful, the Gallery app has a lot of "off days" if you like to take a lot of pics and Nokia Messaging Email app tends to stop working randomly some days, they feel like Beta software.
[XPERIA X10 General] johndub71:
Yup I agree. They play at being all mod cons ala bberry for email, but as you say, and from past experience with the 97 mini, apps just die, and its batt pull time. Shame really. I miss the car kit customisation. That was good.
[XPERIA X10 General] anjo2:
This is a smartphone with no keyboard, why i need a gpu? I would prefer hdmi than gpu...

12MP for what? I'm using 2MP for photos, i dont need so much resolution, i prefer image quality.

Nokia? Symbian? so much problems, i like X10 as it, i had a htc before, and i had so much problems, i dont need updates if it is will working great, only a few applications dont work on Android 1.6, applications for Symbian?? BTW, it's not hard to program to Android :)
[XPERIA X10 General] Martin5000:
Just counting down the days...

.. till I too can become an ex-X10 owner.

My contract ends in a month, so by that time I'll most likely be getting the Samsung Galaxy S I9000 (although it Is tempting to see if I can wait for the dual cores and Android 3 to arrive) :-)

What i don't like about the X10 is SE's disability to release software which is isn't already outdated on launch day, the low volume in speaker during calls aswell as in headphones when streaming music and so on and at last, but not least, the horrible placement of the microphone. Well... and the lack of multi touch and fm-radio and that's it's slow compared to eg. the Galaxy S (yes, I've done side-by-side comparisons).. and I'm not really fond of the edges on the thing when pressed against my ear... and the screen isn't that good either.

On the plus side, I do like the looks of it, and SE have done a good job streamlining everything in the GUI and apps and the resolution on the screen is ok (although not as impressive anymore with iPhone4 out.

- Martin
[XPERIA X10 General] kiki_tt:
Imagine i compared my nokia 5800 to an iphone..... so myopic was my experience with smartphones

1. nokia does not have the open market as android does

2. updates are forever in the making

3. even though I hardly use my x10 for gaming ... just knowing it can play the whole list of ps1 games is mind blowing ... then there are the other platforms snes. gba etc
[XPERIA X10 General] Martin5000:
Status from a former X10 owner

Hi, just a little status update

Some weeks ago I finally got rid of my X10 as I bought a Desire HD, an you know what... I actually miss the damn thing!

At first I was thrilled to get rid of it and I quickly gave it away... but unfortunately it didn't take long before I started missing it... and I still do, to some extent.

Here's what I miss, compared to the Desire HD:

The excellent grip - the X10 just fits perfect in my hand and has the rubbery surface, the DHD is a tad too big and heavy and the single frame aluminum chassis makes it too smooth. I'm often afraid to drop it and the screen is so close to the edges that I sometimes touch it unintentionally along the edges. The looks (physical and UI) - the DHD is boring to look at and the UI is even worse, the X10 just looks so damn nice after the 2.1 update (which I got to use for three days). I love how all the menus, apps, widgets and so on have the same (beautiful) look.

I think the screen is better on the X10 - I never noticed being able to see individual pixels, which I can on the DHD. It's not bad on the DHD, but now that I know, I just can't stop staring at it.

The sound quality was better on the X10 - way too low, but really good. I also liked having the 3.5mm jack at the top.

All the buttons were just right - the few buttons left on the DHD are CRAP!!! They're way too small and firm and provides NO feedback whatsoever and they're almost aligned with the chassis so they're impossible (or at least very difficult) to feel - There's no adjusting the volume during a call without looking at it!.

The battery lasted a bit better.

To be fair, here's the things where the DHD wins:

Screen sensitivity - when not touching the screen unintentionally as described above, it's simply AMAZING - very very responsive.

The DHD is FAST.... although I don't know wether it's bacause of the cpu, android 2.2 or what... but DAMN :-)

I've SO missed a decent dialer capable of instant search using the LETTERS on the phone keypad is a must have and SHOULD be default on all phones.

HTCs social networking integration is better.

The Android2.2 WiFi hotspot is alot better and easier to use than Barnacle.

The DHD has been out for a few weeks and it's already possible to flash custom ROMs, obtain full root and the lot (although I haven't had any desire to do that yet).

The result? I prefer the DHD... well, I kinda have to since I can't take back the X10 :-) However, had I still had the X10, I would actually have had a hard time deciding which one I would like the most. I lean towards the HTC... but deciding between ergonomics and features isn't always easy.

Appreciate what you have while you can! :D
[XPERIA X10 General] ProBoner:
I'm going through the same thing with my captivate vs x10 :D

I'm glad I didn't decide to get rid of the x10 too hastily! I really like the thing!

Best daylight camera I've used on a phone so far. I don't know if people have been using the wrong settings or what, but I can take pics that blow away stuff I've seen posted on x10 cam vs ???? cam (iphone4 included).
[XPERIA X10 General] zm4:
I don't want to be harsh but really no one cares if you sold your Xperia X10...

Your loss.
[XPERIA X10 General] kylec:
+1 nobody cares.

I sold my guitar...
[XPERIA X10 General] D3sRtH4mmR:
The future is touch and the future is Android.

Symbian 2009 market share 44.6%

Symbian 2010 market share 36.6%

Android 2009 market share 3.5%

Android 2010 market share 25.5 %

Is there a pattern here?
[XPERIA X10 General] D00QLE:
Nokia got the worst 0s ever, I don't understand why its so popular?
[XPERIA X10 General] D3sRtH4mmR:
It's popular because it still continues to depend on the diminishing breed of phone users who complain about "complicated" menus and phones.
[XPERIA X10 General] miniflight:
Well the only thing good about this topic is that you sold it for 425! I wish I can sell it at around that price lol.

I have a galaxy s, so x10 is kinda no use.

And yes, people like my sister always say that android phone is too complicated to use, a lot of people like to use simple stuff. So the OSs that are not complicated sells better.

(but it is just a matter of time then people will find out it is not complicated at all!)
[XPERIA X10 General] Bwyan Benton:
Wow!!! Another pointless thread....bye!
[XPERIA X10 General] zipolly:
Ive just obtained a samsung galaxy s and ill keep my X10 in hope of a miracle !! But i now realise how far behind the X10 is in terms of useability its lightning fast the screen is gorgeous and its great to actually make calls with ( i can hear them and they can hear me ).

I wont part with my X10 as i love the looks and feel of it , but hope a custom rom may sort it out and most importantly the call volume issue .
[XPERIA X10 General] vrs2610:
to all the people that ditched the x10

ha ha :D:p:)
[XPERIA X10 General] Nankov:
Soon you will realise about the SGS and you will really hope for a miracle for that device. I had one and i was shocked how bad the device is even the screen (huge pixels that were poking me in the eyes) and everything else like constant crashes, freezes, reboots and shut downs and i tried all kind of fixes from the dev threads(most people say its hardware problem and also filesystem wich cant be changed?). The low signal everywhere i go (sgs 2 bars,x10 full) gps was the worst ive seen on a phone, camera was very bad compared to x10, audio quality was bad, screen issues like yellow tint and blue tint and it wasnt just my device as 80% of people were reporting the same thing also screen burn ins like the notification bar gets burned in into screen, also no flash on the back and no notification led wich are both very useful to me, sgs feels like its gonna break just by holding it and feels holow and and makes spring like sounds when it vibrates and i can go on..... i sold the SGS in a week and dont want to see it again or any Samsung phone for that matter.
[XPERIA X10 General] xperiax10.awesome:
u should have exchanged it with my HTC Desire :)

Anyone wants to exchange his Xperia with Desire (2-3months old)!!
[XPERIA X10 General] zipolly:
Ive had my galaxy s for about 6 weeks now its running the latest 2.2 froyo its lightning fast hasnt frozen once and is an absolute pleasure to use , so i really think you havent got a clue what your talking about .

this reeks of a sad little person who regrets buying his X10 and takes every opportunity to diss other phones !!

If you read my original post i didnt say i hated or disliked the X10 i simply stated that it had a major problem with its call functionality which im praying for a miracle to fix , but in the meantime i have obtained a galaxy s which is serving its purpose exceptionally well .

The X10 is an excellent smartphone but with some major issues which hopefully will eventually get sorted out but i think thats more likely to happen via a custom rom as opposed to sony ericsson as now they have announced the new X12 the X10 will be left high and dry .
[XPERIA X10 General] Nankov:
Sorry man but i never bought the sgs for myself but for my wife. I dont regret buying the x10 even for a second. I didnt want to sound rude, i was explaining the problems that we had and how bad of a phone it was and we got rid of it. Now i definately know what im talking about and im not a liitle sad person who regrets buying the x10 actually it the exact opposite. Now please tell me that all the things i said about the sgs are not true because i can prove you wrong right away, did it ever reboot or shut down on you? Did it lag? How about the pixels can you see them? How do the whites look blue or yellow? Does it feel cheap and light? Is the camera good? Does the gps work as its supposed to? Answer those questions but tell the truth because i can point you to many threads with people with those problems. Its all the sgs series vibrant, captivate, regular sgs, facinate and etc.
[XPERIA X10 General] miniflight:
Where do you live? lol if your close to me, I wouldn't mind trading.
[XPERIA X10 General] zodiac100:
your thoughts

What? you would not want to have native wifi tethering, full flash support, apps2sd and the increase in overall performance. Sorry kid but updates generally mean new improvements and advancements in software which in turn deliver a better user experience. So it's not just about bragging rights...that's just for childish idiots.

To the original poster, good luck with the n8, if its a good camera your after, then the n8 will not disappoint. Nokia phones always have great lenses unlike the cheap stuff on the x10. You also get flash support there, although you might be lacking in the apps department.

All in all, I hope the n8 delivers for you more than the x10 did even though I have to admit I think you should have waited for the first gingerbread phones to reveal themselves before making a choice.