yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Pons:
Not always.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] XGaSpAcHo:
i've never tried ADW but with launcherpro once you install it and hit the home button it asks you which app you'd like to use. i just select launcherpro and set it to use that app by default.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] XGaSpAcHo:
can somebody please explain to me the difference between a nandroid backup and a clockwork recovery backup?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Pons:
None.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] XGaSpAcHo:
so nandroid is basically just another tool that you can use to backup your ROM in addition to clockwork?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Pons:
No, nandroid is the name of the type of image. You made a backup with clockwork, you just made a nandroid.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] XGaSpAcHo:
so you don't install the ROM from rom manager but rather boot into recovery where you can clear the dalvik cache before installing and then load the rom from there?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ilangoadigal:
Any ideas how to remove the Location icon from the notification bar?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] XGaSpAcHo:
location icon?

edit: if you go into ROM manager, select download rom, virtuous, and status bar mods you can select the location icon to be hidden

hope that helps
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Carnage9270:
I have installed the Adrynaline Custom kernel (v2) from rom manager but when i look to see what version my kernel is through settings it says Adrynaline v1. This normal or something going wrong with the flash? Getting some pretty crappy battery life even after multiple battery stat wipes etc.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chris7os:
Stuck in boot loop after trying to flash virtuous rom kernel 2 using rom manager. Full wipe/ cache cleared/dalvik cleared. Any ideas?

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[Droid Incredible Android Development] najaboy:
It's because you did a full wipe. At most, you should have just wiped your dalvik cache when installing a kernel.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hazard666:
Just came in here to say that I cannot wait for the next Virtuous release!

Thank you. Goodbye.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] radiohead14:
what are the significant updates planned for the next one?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] XGaSpAcHo:
hopefully the button background fix
[Droid Incredible Android Development] computerpro3:
I'm running the completely stock virtuous rom and have the missing button problems. Makes posting on hardforums nearly impossible.

Also, my phone will not mount the SD card and internal storage to my computer. Something is seriously jacked up with the USB drivers. I've gotten it to see it by installing HTC Sync but it hard locks windows explorer every time I try to view it.

Any ideas?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] JHeal77:
Can't wait for the integration of the new OTA! Beer money is yours...

Small donation given to great developer. Keep up the good work and the regular updates!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] XGaSpAcHo:
anybody ever notice the buttons on their incredible randomly light up for about 2 seconds and then turn off. only to do it again about 30 seconds later?

i just noticed mine doing it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] radiohead14:
i've experienced this using other roms also (uncommon sense, redemptive).. something with the framework i believe as deficitism mentioned. are you having issues with auto brightness also? that was the case with uncommon sense
[Droid Incredible Android Development] byrong:
Yes, I sometimes have this issue, but it's been happening a lot longer than I've been using Virtuous. It was definitely doing it when I was still using the stock rom/kernel. Not sure if an app is at fault or if that's just the way it will always be. Annoying though and makes me paranoid that something is running/happening.

I also sometimes turn my screen off only for it to turn right back on after about a second. Don't know if it's related. Like I said, annoying. And damn near impossible to figure out what's causing it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] dimebagdan65:
Search AdjBrightness in the market and just turn the button lights off. Your battery says thank you LOL

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[Droid Incredible Android Development] XGaSpAcHo:
what kind of issues are we talking about here? i haven't noticed anything.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] XGaSpAcHo:
i know this is sorta offtopic but is there any way to make the alarm icon only show up when the alarm will be going off within the next 24 hours?

the stock blackberry OS used to do that for me and it's one of the few things i miss about it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chris7os:
Stuck in boot loop after trying to flash virtuous rom kernel 2 using rom manager. Full wipe/ cache cleared/dalvik cleared. Any ideas?

From the dInc

Thank you my friend. I've been trying to figure that out for days. I installed without the wipe and it works great. Love the "interactive" setting in Setcpu.

This community and this forum are truly 'incredible'.

Much love my friends

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[Droid Incredible Android Development] radiohead14:
haha.. what are you smoking man.. i directly quoted your post.. the issue YOU brought up.. i was agreeing with you

edit: if you were asking about the auto brightness tho.. some people using uncommon sense, me including, noticed that it was acting weird also.. so deficitism tried to fix it, and he mentioned that he tweaked the framework, which might take care of both the touch button lights and screen auto bright issues.. so they might be related.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ilangoadigal:
I don't see that option. All of the options have the Location icon in them.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] radiohead14:
sorry if this has been answered before, but is there a way to get the vanilla lockscreen with music controls, and when i receive a call.. the vanilla lock screen remains intact instead of the sense?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] XGaSpAcHo:
haha yeah i was asking about the auto brightness. no issues with that thankfully. and i haven't noticed the buttons lighting up since that one time. must have been some app not letting it go to sleep or something. who knows.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] XGaSpAcHo:
is this not what you see when you select status bar mods under the virtuous theme?

maybe i'm wrong but i understand that to be asking you which icons you'd like to hide. can anyone else confirm this?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] najaboy:
If you mean the "slide to answer", that has zilch to do with the lockscreen and there is currently no way to delete it from a sense ROM.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] john10101:
When i go to wipe dalvic Cache, i see the error

e:cant mount /dev/block/mmcblk1p2 (file exists)

but it seams to let me wipe the cache any way (dalvik cache wiped.)

is this an issue i should be worried about?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Pons:
No, it just means you don't have sd-ext setup. I have a couple of posts up about this, but I don't feel like digging them up with the xda app.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rmk40:
No one needs to wipe cache or dalvik cache manually. The install scripts do that for you every time you upgrade or re-install.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] john10101:
ok good to know. thought maybe this would help my usb tether but it did not :-(
[Droid Incredible Android Development] radiohead14:
ok then what about just adding the vanilla lock with music control like in uncommon sense rom?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rmk40:
You can already do that via the Virtuous section of ROM Manager.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] radiohead14:
thanks rmk, but i only see the rotary. i mean i know it's basically the same, but looking for the two separate tabs.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rmk40:
Virtuous 3.1.0 went to beta last night. We're probably going to let this one cook for a while before releasing it, to make absolutely certain we test everything.

Expect it to be a full ROM rather than an upgrade, since it was rebased on the 10/13 sense release.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] fortesquieu:
How can I be a part of beta tester?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] INTREPID-NY:
See: http://www.virtuousrom.com/2010/09/looking-for-beta-testers.html
[Droid Incredible Android Development] spjoneser:
Can't wait!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] radiohead14:
sweet! what are the significant changes made from the 10/13 rom?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gerodive:
Does this mean with the new sense we get access to htcsense.com like the desire HD Rom users?! =)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] radiohead14:
i don't think it's the 'new' new sense.. but rmk based it off the unreleased 10/13 OTA he posted a few days back.. so no access to htc customizations :(
[Droid Incredible Android Development] OSully:
Does anyone have any experience with theming? I am trying to change the dialer button text to have white numbers instead of black. I'm having a hell of a time decompling the apks, finding the right xml file to edit, and then getting my changes to stick when I recompile. Anyone want to take a whack at it for me? I don't even know which apk I definitely have to edit to make the change.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] radiohead14:
espresso rosie

just an FYI: the espresso rosie from skyraider works with virtuous. i flashed the theme from rom manager. it did change my lockscreen to skyraider's bar tho. i then used metamorph to remap the right button :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jakaro:
Is the new version use the "new" sense? Like the desire HD, or us it just a new leak?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ozzman54:
It's not the desire HD. It's the new leak located here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=808173
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jakaro:
I know its not the HD, but HTC has a new version of sense thays on the HD, is this the new version of sense?

Nm, found it in that thread, it is not the new sense.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Phsyckr:
Anyway to turn the backlight of the buttons off, permanetly without AdjBrightness? thanks!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] CHUNKYBOWSER:
Can I install this without wiping my phone? I know it's suggested to, but do you guys think I'll be relatively safe? I'm running totally stock except for root and a kernel.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] douger1957:
OMFG...

Dude...

If the dev says wipe, it's not because he wants to see a whole bunch of people have to reload their setting and **** all over again.

It's because he doesn't want the bug reports.

Don't wipe...and roll the dice.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Pons:
Sure, give it a whirl. The worst thing that will probably happen will you get stuck on a boot loop. Just don't expect much help if you do. And I think I remember rmk posting that scripts built into the ROM install will automatically wipe the data, so it might not matter.

Edit, his post said cache and dalvik, not data.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] CHUNKYBOWSER:
Thanks for the bull**** response.

I was just asking what people thought, perhaps someone else has done it and it worked out for them.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] douger1957:
That's the honest response, dude.

Everybody's phone is different...but when the framework changes like this one did, if the dev says wipe, wipe.

This thread is 200 plus pages because of bull**** questions like that.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] CHUNKYBOWSER:
Well, you didn't need to freak out. I looked through a few pages and didn't find an answer.

I'm going to wipe it but I made a backup if I want to go back.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] colonel187:
I'm a noob and I even found that as a lazy question. Download titanium backup. Don't be so lazy if you wanna try somebody elses hard work that we get for free. Wiping is not the end of the world
[Droid Incredible Android Development] douger1957:
You've got three posts, looked through a "few" pages, and tell me I'm freaking out?

Read all 250 pages of this thread...then the 250 pages or so of Skyraider's thread...then tell me I'm freaking out.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] douger1957:
Thank you.

I thought some of the old timers here were a bit sensitive about posting stuff in the correct forums and whatnot when I first got here...but after a couple of months here myself, man, you get tired of the same old ****, page after page.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] CHUNKYBOWSER:
*facepalm* Well, thanks for the help.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] douger1957:
Allow me to impart my one pearl of wisdom.

I've been goofin' around computers for over 25 years. I go back to DOS 2.0.

Installing systems back in those days was considered routine maintenance. And in those days, that involved 6 or 7 floppy discs to do the job.

It didn't take long to learn that the wisest course of action when doing an install was to start with a freshly formatted drive. And that was when formatting a 100 meg drive might take an hour or so.

The same basic principle applies to these phones. Even if the dev says you don't need to wipe, you're best course of action to insure that any artifact left from previous ROMs isn't there is to wipe.

For this forum, I guess I'm a grizzled old veteran. But when it comes to Android devices, I've only had mine since May. I have to have the exact verbage of working with adb in front of me when I play with that...and I avoid that like the plague. I'm a noob, just a bit more experienced than you.

But I can tell you this: I've never had a problem with rooting or custom ROMs that no one else experienced...because I lurked on this forum and others before I tried anything, and I followed directions exactly.

Maybe that's two pearls. Take it for whatever you think it's worth.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Phsyckr:
If I create a SD Ext partition would it help me in speed or something?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Pons:
Nope, just with a benign error and apps2sd.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gerodive:
So will this ROM ever incorporate the NEW sense? I'm really jealous of those Desire users who can make their phone ring remotely, back it up to a server, and track its location in real time. I want some of this love for us Virtuous Incredible users. =)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] TheWhiteBandito:
I'd keep an eye on the IncDoes Desire HD Rom. There are a few small bugs in it, but it's a solid release right now. Maybe if he works out the kinks, someone could incorporate new sense into this rom?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
IF they can get the camera working, we can talk. Otherwise, no thanks.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] yanks111890:
How do I change the bootup sound back? Thats really the only thing i want.

I tried VZW_Droid.mp3 in /system/customize/resources and android_audio.mp3 in /system/media to no avail

On a side note: I know it's opinion, but what is the best kernel for battery life on Virtuous. I get about 11 hours of use with BFS #4, just wondering if anything is better.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ozzman54:
To restore the bootup sound go into Rom Manager -> Download ROM -> Virtuous -> Restore Apps & Revert Addons -> Download -> Restore Boot Audio.

I'm using the Adrynalyne Custom v2 kernel and it works great for me. It's very responsive and greatly improved my battery life. Kings didn't work too well for me. The CFS and BFS were both sluggish during bootup and didn't improve my battery life at all. You can also try the Adrynalyne Experimental kernel: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=810523. Judging by most of the replies in that thread, it seems to be even better then the Adrynalyne Custom v2, but I haven't tried it yet.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] topaz330:
not sure if its specific to this rom but anyone have an issue where your call log will have a number thats in your phonebook but it shows up just the number with the phone book name? i have it where its a duplicate where i can have lets say 555-555-5555 show up and right below it will be the same number but with the name showing.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] radiohead14:
Virtuous 3.1!

saw this post on rmk's Virtuous site:

"Virtuous 3.1.0 most likely will be released tomorrow. Expect a full 160MB download, since it was re-based on the 10/13 release of Sense"

Sweet! Virtuous has been the most stable and issue-free rom for me. I've tried almost all the other ones, and I keep coming back to this. It's nice seeing all the fancy bells and whistles the other roms have, but at the end of the day.. performance and stability wins.

Also saw this tweet from rmk:

"I'm not teasing, just amazed. Still on the same charge (Virtuous 3.1.0), 45 hours off charger, 5.5 hours awake, 28% battery remaining."

Looks like the new HTC kernel is a good improvement!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ozzman54:
Can't wait for this! I've tried a few other roms and this is still my favorite :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbdan:
Yes the new kernel is awesome. I've been running it for 3 days now on Lou's RRRom and it's been nothing short of superb!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] XGaSpAcHo:
any word on if there will be an update?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] radiohead14:
what kind of updates? like changes on the rom? not sure.. i'm just going by what rmk's posted on his twitter and virtuous site.. we'll soon find out, hopefully tomorrow
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
I think I'm ready!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] fortesquieu:
Can you guys install Google translate?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] radiohead14:
yup.. installs and works fine
[Droid Incredible Android Development] fortesquieu:
Uhh mine says installation unsuccessful
[Droid Incredible Android Development] lazycrazyboi:
I wonder if the .91 leaked radio works better with this new Rom? Have any of the beta testers or dev, looked into it?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] OSully:
I'm using the stock froyo radion, haven't tried the new radio. I don't know what RMK is doing to get that kind of battery life, I'm getting maybe half that.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] XGaSpAcHo:
no i mean an update to 3.0.1 so i don't have to install 3.1.0 from scratch.

or is it always a good idea to do a clean install with every new release?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] n99hockey:
RMK said its going to be a full download and not a patch.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] OSully:
If it's like the beta, you should be able to flash it over your existing rom, but your any custom theming will likely get overwritten.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Pons:
You mean HBOOT?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] craighwk:
I'm almost afraid for this new release. :) The current Virtuous has been working so great for me, I fear the future!

Most other ROMs were nice, but had a few quirks here and there. Virtuous is the only one I can rely on. Keep up the great work and I am looking forward to the new release, despite my concerns.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] spjoneser:
Any of you beta testers know whether or not the revolution theme will still work with new ROM?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] lazycrazyboi:
I typed the wrong radio version but there's only one newest radio since official froyo release...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] OSully:
It should work, but RMK recommends not to because the new Virtuous is based on the latest build and the revolution theme includes some older versions.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] spjoneser:
So.... someone needs to start themeing using newer framework?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] dvdivx:
If you are going to have a new release any chance of adding taintdroid to it?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] XGaSpAcHo:
will the new release fix the button background bug?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] normg:
This may be a bit of a pipe dream but it sure would be nice if we could get the themer's to work cooperatively so we don't end up with incompatable frameworks again..

The list will be the usual list of suspects, eg., rotary lock, tab lock, six bar signal, ect. ect.

I'm just trying to learn how to do all of this now so I'm not much help but I would be willing to color in icons for someone working on a major build...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] OSully:
The beta did not fix the button bug
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rmk40:
Virtuous 3.1.0 is now available.

No wipe required unless you encounter issues.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Pons:
Nice. Downloading now.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] fortesquieu:
FINALLY! I've waited for so long lol!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] AlpineM3:
How is it fellas? Anything worth trying? I'm currently on SR 3.3.1 and loving life
[Droid Incredible Android Development] INTREPID-NY:
rmk, should we stick with the new stock kernel in Virtuous 3.1, or reload the custom kernel v2?

You reported better battery life; was this with the stock kernel in Virtuous 3.1?

OK, now I see in ROM Manger it says "custom kernel v2.6.32.15" so it seems you updated the custom kernel? This new custom kernel is not up on your website yet. Thanks.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Pons:
Downloading...

And anything by rmk40 is worth trying, in my experience. I've been using Virtuous since 2.6 and have never had an issue, force close, boot loop, random shutdown, etc.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] normg:
Thanks RMK !!!

Anybody want to start an under/over poll on how many new posts question "should i wipe" :D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rmk40:
I *highly* recommend the stock kernel right now. It is a completely new version, 2.6.32.17.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] AlpineM3:
Is this a patch or a whole new ROM?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Pons:
According to rmk40, a bit of both. It's a full ROM if you don't have Virtuous, but if you're upgrading, you don't have to flash unless you have problems so it's a patch.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] INTREPID-NY:
rmk, your website says Download Virtuous Stock Kernel (v4) but the filename is virtuous-kernel_stock_v3.zip

Also, I selected the custom kernel in Rom Manager with 3.1. What's the easiest way to install the new stock kernel? Nevermind, I found it in Rom Manager - Stock Kernel v2.6.32.17
[Droid Incredible Android Development] psitech:
The good thing is that I found that the problem isn't with all flash videos. It was just slow on everything that the flash showcase app took you to. I just tried a few videos on engadget and pocketnow and they are all ok. Kinda weird, but at least it works on some sites. I did get a force close while playing one of the videos on pocketnow.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mhamann:
Not really interested in wiping my device again, but I didn't upgrade from 2.0 to 2.1 or 2.2--is it a problem to just flash from 2.0 to 2.3 without a device wipe?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] metalmenance:
Yes I installed over 2.1 then over 2.2

now on 2.3 and all is going good with

installed first one and did full wipe

but with updates just installed over without wipe

and things are still working good, no issues

went in and took out other garbage like news,appsharing,stocks,flickr,vvm

dont need or want that bloatware

I like the news apps but have found better battery life without them

To OP: Great rom and thanks for the good work, look forward to better things to come