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[Desire General] Lennyuk:
I would put a large amount of money (if I had a large amount of money) that the radio will be teh same as in the latest vodafone 2.2 rom.
[Desire General] atomfix:
Well I'm running .30 radio just fine and it hasent sim locked my phone.

Its most proberly that orange will use it for there next update.
[Desire General] neuromacer:
My orange rom has been rooted using unrevoked, should I unrooted before installing the official 2.2 update when it arrives OTA? ...if it arrives ...(
[Desire General] Lennyuk:
If your on any other rom other than the official rom Orange 2.1 then you will not receive the OTA notice.

No need to unroot, just make sure your on the correct rom.
[Desire General] bedeabc:
I'd be interested in trying this ROM but don't want to lose root, purely to see if it helps with reception. Is it possible for people to dump the relevant partitions without already having root?
[Desire General] Jazd71:
Bad news it seems that the update for Orange phones has been put back till mid September!

Once again Orange fail miserably! The only thing they seem to be good at is ticking their customers off!
[Desire General] EddyOS:
The only way would be to intercept the filename of the OTA file and download it manually from HTC and then extract it out and see what's going on...
[Desire General] danprocter:
Where did you find this out?
[Desire General] ViRMiN:
It's been posted on a few sites, linking to to a tweet by Conor Maples (conorfromorange). I'm new so, can't link straight to it I'm afraid.
[Desire General] Jazd71:
From a chap from Orange on twitter conorfromorange is his twitter feed.
[Desire General] sutepm:
I made the right decision to root my phone at the weekend and happily running Froyo. My next Android device will not be from Orange for certain.
[Desire General] dgattenb:
Same here this is the last time.I'm with orange and vodafone who are also rubbish... infact most sp are rubbish mmmm ill wait for the update. ..... but then gingerbread is out, and the cycle starts again mmmm
[Desire General] dgattenb:
I have Hboot 0.75 and radio 4.05.. so may if they take too long root it and go down that root ...

But I don't see why I have , I have brought a product from some one that is out if date...

If Orange are surprised about android phone , maybe the phone technology is too confusing for them...

Stick to Orange Wednesdays ....
[Desire General] Lennyuk:
carriers do not have to update software and you should never buy a phone expecting an update to occur.

yes its not nice, but orange are always the last to release updates.

rooting is the way forward
[Desire General] dgattenb:
I expect to have a service , I expect that If pay X amount of money for a bit of plastic it will do what i ask of it .
[Desire General] sutepm:
If they don't want to provide updates then they should stop putting their bloatware and various other customisation on the phone so that we get updates straight from HTC
[Desire General] EddyOS:
It does do what you ask of it - make calls, send/receive SMS/emails, browse the Internet...the only thing it doesn't do is allow (a small amount of) apps to go to the SD card and the quite frankly **** '720p' video recording...you're not missing out tbh
[Desire General] dgattenb:
You Can move all your apps to the SD card bar the ones that are " running with services " etc... its under the hood where things matter, smart phones should be just that ... smart ... not bogged down in rubbish to show you " how they work "
[Desire General] EddyOS:
See me reply in other thread........

(No, you can't)
[Desire General] Zaphodski:
Couldn't wait and hit ok to accept the restore. Took longer than I expected (thought it had crashed to be honest..) however it seems ok so I decided to look for another update...

It's now downloading again.... :D:eek::D
[Desire General] velis19:
as in its now downloading the 97mb update???

as this update is the pre update for the 1.22 correct?

im downloading the 27.3mb one now
[Desire General] Zaphodski:
I now have 2.17.61.2

Is that Froyo...?
[Desire General] ste1164:
I think it is yea but in software on settings it should say android 2.2. If it does then you have froyo.
[Desire General] EddyOS:
Yes, lol :D
[Desire General] Zaphodski:
Android version 2.2 :D

720p video camera :D:D

Off you go and fill your boots everyone :)

Now how to work out how to move my apps to the SD card.... :confused:
[Desire General] ste1164:
It was all going so well froyo has kinda installed im just stuck on the orange logo x). Might be just taking a while so ill leave it for a bit.
[Desire General] topbanana4:
Android version 2.2

720p video camera

Off you go and fill your boots everyone

Now how to work out how to move my apps to the SD card....

look here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=502010
[Desire General] EddyOS:
Go to Settings>Applications>Manage Applications>Installed and under each one there's a button to 'Move to SD card' - it has to be enabled by the app dev, though. Currently only Angry Birds and EStrongs are enabled on my phone but I only have 8 apps installed
[Desire General] olrad:
Since it looks like most people are getting the update now could I ask again for somebody to try the Wifi Hotspot feature?

I'm still going through the motions with HTC trying to get it working but it would be handy to know if it's working for other people on Orange branded Froyo.
[Desire General] dgattenb:
To back up what was said.. ( i'll try mine tonight !! )

-----Original Message-----

From: Executive, Office [mailto:executive.office@orange.co.uk]

Sent: 01 October 2010 17:01

To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Subject: FW: Orange

Case Reference: 1xxxxxxxxxxx

Account Number: xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Please respond to executive.office@orange.co.uk

Dear Mr X

Further to my email dated 30 September 2010, I am writing to confirm the

following.

I am pleased to advise we have received information that HTC have released

the 1.22 update. The reports we have received are confirming that the

downloads are successful.

I trust the above information is of assistance.

Yours sincerely

Lynne Robinson
[Desire General] Zaphodski:
Thanks for that (and the other poster). It saved me 10.4MB which gave me space for Google Earth (although after a quick play, I'm not sure if it's worth it...? Any tips anyone) I was also surprised with the number of Google apps that couldn't move (e.g. Maps)....
[Desire General] ste1164:
Ok I think I must be still rooted as I have the superuser app but no clockwork mod recovery. Am I still rooted or is the app just still there?
[Desire General] dpk:
Yup its out. And I got the Froyo download straight once onto the 1.22 !

Just finishing installing now !! :D
[Desire General] Yogimax:
Stuck in upgrade?

I have a rooted Desire but was able to download the 1.22 update. When I was prompted did I want to update I agreed.

My phone is just showing a white triangle with an orange exclamation mark and an android guy and has been for 1/2 an hour! :(

Suggestions?

Edit: Pressed the power button and found clockwork recovery wasn't able to verify the signature so had halted the upgrade. Will try again later.
[Desire General] ste1164:
I had that problem. Just go into the flash zips from SD card and disable script assests and signature check. Then go back into the main menu and go on flash update.zip. Mine worked after this.
[Desire General] fabbers:
Hooray finally updated.
[Desire General] Jazd71:
On the update has it still got the demo and orange bloatware?
[Desire General] ste1164:
Yea the update has all the bloatware apart from on-screen selector.
[Desire General] Jazd71:
Thanks for that quick reply, I will stick to my de branded version then, typical they release it on the day I de brand mine lol.

Sorry for duplicated post IE shut on me.
[Desire General] Jazd71:
Thanks for the fast reply. I de branded mine this morning, very simple and quick to do thankfully so I have no more bloatware though its typical they release the official version in the afternoon I do mine. LOL
[Desire General] dazkgoodwin:
Yeah I was thinking just the same, the minute you debrand they finally get the update out!!

Still it's nice not to have their bloatware... and also knowing that should they release an another Android update it'll be easier to get it straight away!! (or an updated HTC Sense for that matter as that could be updated).
[Desire General] roscoe141:
SmS messaging seems slower for me. Tried Chompsms and Handcent. ANyone elsE?
[Desire General] upsell:
Re Wifi hotspot

It seems to work however I cant seem to get usb tethering to work anymore

Im more likely to use this as it means my laptop is keeping my battery charged on the phone

apps to SD is fine but few of my apps allow it

weather is more accurate with the location

I still use the phone keypad (t9) to input text etc and I'm not sure I like the changes with that

Battery life? we'll see as I've just used 2% whilst typing out this

720p video will try out with the little one over the weekend

as for everything else well we'll see
[Desire General] blakey092:
Hello mate, had a good go at orange over the wifi hotspot issue and they linked my phone to their system and confirmed that there was an error. A replacement arrived today BUT IT HAD 2.1 PREINSTALLED FFS. Downloaded froyo again and guess what - Wi-fi hotspt doesn't work over 3g and the bluetooth is playing up ! Back to square 1 :(
[Desire General] ee2:
Does operator unlocked Desire simlock again after applying these updates (1.15 -> 1.22 -> Froyo)?
[Desire General] phanmo:
Orange France?

I have a desire with Orange France; does anyone know if I can use the OTA_Bravo_Froyo_Orange_UK_1.22.61.1_R-1.15.61.10_releasewj7ctoapvmrkdk44.zip file to manually update. I'm on 1.15.73.12.
[Desire General] church473:
I was so ready to root my phone, and the day I was going to root the update came through! Has anyone tried rooting the phone now with the update?
[Desire General] ste1164:
Yes you can use that to manually update your phone. Remember to rename it to update.zip
[Desire General] crazy4ker:
Yeah, but I think the second update saves to SD, so you don't have to delete everything. I got the 25mb message for the first update.
[Desire General] blakey092:
Once it's unlocked it stays unlocked.
[Desire General] makivssashimi:
Test and hotspot and tethering are not working.... :( anyone has the same problem, for info tethering was working before update.
[Desire General] upsell:
yeah further to my previous post saying hotspot works

now I cant get internet access with either hotspot or usb tethering

I am hoping it just cuz of poor signal but my dolphin browser on the phone works fine
[Desire General] olrad:
Right, so that's at least three other people with the same problem.

I was told by orange that they hadn't disabled tethering in the new update and that I should get in touch with HTC. I did and my ticket with HTC has just been escalated.

It might be worth anyone with a issue with tethering to log a ticket with HTC. At least then they know that this seems to be a common problem with the orange branded update.
[Desire General] stats101:
Mine has been stuck on the restore screen for over 4 hours now :S Any suggestions???
[Desire General] ste1164:
As I said on the other thread you might need to do a battery pull.
[Desire General] shorty_blitz:
My friend and I got both the updates yesterday, the restore screen took about 35mins to complete and I can also confirm that WiFi hot spot tethering does not work! My pc connects but the internet seems blocked!
[Desire General] stats101:
it too around 4 hours and 40 mins. all the sms's however are repeating twice? :S
[Desire General] thewhizzz:
How can this be an HTC problem when it only happens to Branded Orange phones?
[Desire General] olrad:
To be honest I'm not sure who is responsible but Orange said if it's a software bug to talk to HTC.

I think HTC would be more likely to be able to figure out what's going on...
[Desire General] ste1164:
Yup my WiFi hotspot tethering does not work either.
[Desire General] bigf00t:
Does anybody else's internet feel slower than before? Not really loading pages but scrolling up and down, zooming in etc?

Also, pinch to zoom still doesn't reflow text.
[Desire General] lysergic:
Yep, slower scroll speed here too. Same issues. On the positive side the keyboard has predictive text for loads of languages instead of just 3!
[Desire General] chandalf:
Wi-Fi Hotspot not working on Orange

Agreed. Got mine updated last night (been abroad on holiday) and tried the new 'feature' today. No joy. Looks to me like the Orange server is blocking the DNS lookup; i.e. it is an Orange issue!
[Desire General] olrad:
DNS requests are coming back with request rejected but even if you try with an IP address you never get a response. It almost seems like the phone isn't setting itself up to forward traffic on. I'll fire off a few more questions to @Orangehelpers in the morning.
[Desire General] Yogimax:
Has anyone found the battery life has got worse? My phone barely gets through the day now!
[Desire General] thewhizzz:
Hope you have better time than i have with Orange ! I have been complaining to them since day one of Froyo (mine updated ok on release day). According to them its not Orange to blame its HTC thats their answer to me.Mind you they were still trying to get Froyo to everyone and didn't want to hear about other problems. Good Luck getting any answers.
[Desire General] bhav1:
Duplicate Messages

Hi all,

Just did the Orange 1.15.61.10 to 1.22.61.1 update, followed by the FroYo update, all went well except now every text message in my archive is duplicated! I wouldn't be so worried, but googling it only revealed one other person to experience this, and whenever they sent a text message the phone started doing it twice.. not good.

Each time before starting the update my desire backed up to SD card, and then recovered from it after the update was done. Cant see why it would only duplicate messages and nothing else though?!

Any advice? thanks.

EDIT - just tested and its not sending multiple texts at least...
[Desire General] thewhizzz:
Wi-Fi Tethering now working

i changed ip addess to 192.168.42.122 thats what i get when i usb tether and it worked :D
[Desire General] jdta09:
I debranded because I got fed up with waiting and both usb tethering and wifi hotspot work fine. I'd blame Orange.
[Desire General] pignoli:
Yep, same here. I'm guessing it's due to the new radio that comes with the update. I haven't heard of the radio version anywhere other than in this update. The area at the bottom of the phone got very hot when I used it for navigation earlier today. Anyone know if flashing a different froyo compatible radio will simlock an orange branded phone?
[Desire General] Jack Wood:
Yes. Scroll in browser is much much slower.

Scroll in apps like TouchDown seems to be unaffected.

Any ideas?
[Desire General] brandall:
Folks - Is it possible to extract the radio from this so we can play around with the custom froyo ROMs without worrying about SIM lock or any other 2.2 radio related problems?
[Desire General] chandalf:
Where exactly did you set that IP Address? (in the Hotspot App obviously, but which field?)
[Desire General] dgattenb:
FAB!! at XXXXXXXX last !!

On Friday night .. first one came down .... then the next ...

10 mins later ...

Froyo!

was it worth the wait ??

Yes, boots faster .... more rubbish apps installed ( all on sd card ) .. only thing that dont work is wifi tether ... but I have seen that allot.

Can we close this thread now???? If every one has it ???
[Desire General] lysergic:
Same problem here. All the past sms messages have been duplicated :( Any clue on how to remove the duplicates?

/lys
[Desire General] chandalf:
Mods, this thread has become one on "Problems with Orange UK Froyo Release". Can we somehow spin it off in to a new thread? Or does someone have to start one?
[Desire General] olly230:
@MODS

this thread has now become about a thread about closing threads

is that like dividng by zero?
[Desire General] brandall:
Perhaps we can get the above sorted before any talks of closing...?
[Desire General] thewhizzz:
Wi-Fi hotspot advanced lan settings ip address
[Desire General] shorty_blitz:
My texts have been duplicated and so have my friends, I got a feeling more peoples are like this on the stock messages app and they have no idea! Handsent was fine but now it seems that's duplicated too!
[Desire General] shorty_blitz:
Basically it seems that every text sent before froyo update has been duplicated I.e. the archive, this also explains why the messages app including handsent have slowed down.
[Desire General] dgattenb:
wifi tether sorted out... fab!!!!!!!!!! again I love this phone ... I am happy :)
[Desire General] olrad:
Awesome, how did you fix it?
[Desire General] EddyOS:
Think you need to change your signature...

;)
[Desire General] chandalf:
Didn't work for me. :(
[Desire General] stats101:
I sorted it out by restoring a two week old back up of all my messages. I initially had around 7000 messages, after froyo it became 15000. Had to get an app to first remove the messages, took over 16 hours in total.
[Desire General] david_inuk:
Sounds great mate!

How did you do it?

Where did you get the backup from?

Which app did you use to delete the messages?

Thanks!
[Desire General] stats101:
Unfortunatly it was a back up I manually made myself using my backup pro at that time. I used a program called 'delete old messages' to remove the sms's.
[Desire General] stats101:
Is anyway noticing poorer reception with the new update? I rarely have seen my phone on full bars since.
[Desire General] olly230:
Might be something to do with the T-Mobile merger?
[Desire General] zacoid55:
I have recently upgraded to 2.2 on Orange and I've got to say I am more than disappointed with the outcome.

EVERYTHING has slowed down to a point of wanting to hurl my phone through the nearest pane. This is particularly predominant in my SMSes. I have a massive chat log with my girlfriend which spans over 5000 texts which was still bought up in a flash on 2.1, however now that froyo has told me how many texts I have it seems to have realised that it is a lot and takes a good 5-10 seconds for it to load.

My phone has crashed several times, refusing to turn back on once I have locked it and in some cases when I've on on my browser!

Not a happy bunny :(
[Desire General] kranor:
Another person to add to the list with usb and wifi tethering not working. Interestingly my mate has a wildfire on T-mobile, he just updated his and now his tethering does not work.
[Desire General] dgattenb:
for my wifi tethering to work I changed my IP on my phone ... to 192.168.2.1... ( menu / advanced/ LAN )

and change the APN

http://www.sturnus.co.uk/performance/2008-07/uk-mobile-gprs-settings/

Not sure the later did it ,but my connections works better... bat that .. all seams fine...

fast ... smooth ... no probs ( touch plastic ) ...
[Desire General] kranor:
Nah not worked on mine....Starting to bug me now...

Raised a fault now with HTC so will see how that goes........I think its gonna be a long wait......
[Desire General] dgattenb:
so when you turn of your 3G ... select wifi hotspot... enable ... call it what ever and make the encription TKIP ....

Find a laptop .. or another phone and see if they can see you ?
[Desire General] olrad:
Well... I've had a call logged with HTC over the Wifi Hotspot for two weeks now and it's gone nowhere.

Finally took the plunge and rooted / debranded the phone and guess what... WiFi Hotspot now works. It's definitely a problem with the Orange Froyo update and nothing to do with the physical hardware.

Somebody mentioned changing APN settings, the only difference I can see between the settings that I had when it was Orange branded and now is that "Authentication Type" is now set to "None" rather than "CHAP" when it was orange branded.
[Desire General] itgoodson:
Problems here too with 2.2:

Hotspot doesn't work

Scrolling slow

Pinch to zoom slow

Probably other things too, just haven't found them yet. Maybe I shouldn't have been so desperate for it in the first place...
[Desire General] lysergic:
Anyone knows whether these problems are present in the unbranded 2.2 ROM?
[Desire General] sam640:
Seriously terrible update to 2.2.

Duplicate text messages and its slow as anything.... wonder how many more have a similar problem ...

Anyone know a solution to erase duplicate text messages ?
[Desire General] skintosh:
I flashed my ROM with a gold card and updated to 2.2 OTA and have had zero problems with it, I'm very happy

:)
[Desire General] kranor:
so far the only reply from HTC has been......Try a factory reset......DUH!!!
[Desire General] olrad:
Had to do the same when I logged my call with HTC. They also asked me to try another sim and check that there was nothing on my laptop stopping it. Then they ran out if ideas.

It's definitely an Orange froyo issue. I just debranded today and it works perfectly.
[Desire General] dgattenb:
Mmmmm mine works fab .. fast smooth ... so far no " troubles " none what you speak of...

The market is fine.... can be a bit slow in scrolling .. but I also have App Brain .. which is fine .... so it looks like an app issue there .

Photo's are smooth ... a bit sea sick now the screen moves left and right ... but fine...

Only odd thing is after playing a game ( from the market ) when you go back to the home screen , the screen streches for a millisecond....then snaps back to place .
[Desire General] EddyOS:
Anyone got the full radio version number?
[Desire General] Capt Haddock:
I recently updated my Desire to Froyo, and am experiencing the same problems as all(?) other Orange customers. No USB tethering, no wi-fi hotspot, and duplicated text messages. I contacted Orange, who suggested I contact HTC. I did, and have just received this reply.

"Unfortunately after the 2.2 update there has been an error regarding the mobile tethering, the only way this can be fixed is to send it into repair, please call us on 0845 8900079 to arrange a repair for you. Thank you for contacting HTC"

I haven't got back to them yet, but it seems to me to be less hassle if I were to debrand the phone. In fact, would the HTC "repair" be just this?

So I might try debranding. Worst case, if I brick the phone, I will have to return it to HTC. Since the alternative is to return it anyway, I'd be no worse off.
[Desire General] kranor:
well spent an hour on the phone to orange. Got through to second line support in about 10 minutes (fairly quick really). the support specialist has had several calls about this problem before but the previous calls Had been from 'muggles'. So we went through quite an in depth check of the phone settings. with ROM versions and everything (not a single daft suggestion made by him at all!!) he agreed that the Orange ROM seems to be at fault and seems to think that there is a second level menu missing called internet sharing???? the biggest problem that they have is that they do not have any 2.2 desires in the support centre. He then suggested carrying out a second Manual upgrade for 2.2 using a ROM downloaded on a PC then transferred over to ensure that nothing was missed due to the OTA update. As yet I have not looked into this due to being involved in a large project at work and not wanting to loose my settings/contacts/apps by carrying this out. If anyone is willing to give this a try it may help.
[Desire General] blakey092:
Which method did you use to debrand and which rom did you go with?
[Desire General] olrad:
I ended up rooting with unrevoked3.

http://unrevoked.com/recovery/

Then stuck the Pre-rooted Stock Froyo (2.10.405.2) ROM on.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=773997

I'm not sure if that's the best way but it worked and I didn't need a gold card.

Orange demo free.

Wireless hotspot working.

Quadrant score went from 985 to 1153.

Very happy :-).
[Desire General] shorty_blitz:
I too have all of the above problems with my updated ROM. I guess Orange will have to learn the hard way to stop tampering with ROMs, because by doing so they are causing us and themselves a lot of headache!