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[Desire General] danprocter:
You don't need any of this... follow the link I posted a couple of posts ago, debrand it to generic 1.15 and then when you get it up and running it allows you to update to another 1.15 version, then 1.22, then finally 2.10 which is froyo.

Mine is working fully and am running the froyo which has been downloaded directly OTA. Simples.
[Desire General] ste1164:
He wants an orange branded rom not a unbraded rom like yours.
[Desire General] Yogimax:
Do you need to sim unlock as per the guide?
[Desire General] laserman123:
Anyone who has got update what is the radio version?
[Desire General] danprocter:
Yea, i did mine thru Orange themselves, told them I was going abroad and wanted to use a foreign sim card. Cost £20 but at least u know its legit. Came through within 4 hours.
[Desire General] brandall:
I hear you and I will probably end up doing exactly that - but for the benefit of this thread and preserving warranty (I think?) and those that might not want to spend £20 (or the cost of a 3rd party unlock), I thought this might be a solution!?

If it is just a matter of someone posting a nand (1.22) on rapidshare and then everyone can get the Orange 2.2 shortly after for free and without the wait - let's do it!!?

Any takers.....?
[Desire General] dpk:
It would be VERY much appreciated if someone would do this
[Desire General] ste1164:
Me too if anyone would be kind enough to do this.
[Desire General] upsell:
couldnt wait

but tried to debrand and kept getting connection errors

guess Im gonna have to wait a little longer

:mad:
[Desire General] Cansel1001:
My Orange Haiku

Froyo never comes

All others have got it now

Much sadness and rage
[Desire General] defraguk:
so tired... tired of waiting... tired of waiting for yoooouuuuuu...

The Kinks.. was orange around back then?
[Desire General] Scarface Ninetoes:
Surely that should have been "Tired of waiting FroYo-u"!!!!!!!
[Desire General] defraguk:
nice, see what you did there :D
[Desire General] jdta09:
Same here. Tried for hours on different PCs and kept getting 170, 171 and eventually 131 errors when trying both methods in the broadbandgenie guide. :-(
[Desire General] garysargent:
Add me to the list of people who have now lost patience and debranded :(
[Desire General] olly230:
Have you created the goldcard?

Once I did that i just flashed to an unbranded stock rom which invovled double clicking an exe file.

I was connected to my phone through htc sync with USB debugging active, if that helps. (win7 64bit)

20 minutes start to finish.

THe updating once it was debranded took a little while longer but it was pretty much automatic
[Desire General] upsell:
yep

Did the goldcard tried different roms etc played around with HTC sync

I am also on W7 64bit

Im gonna wait a little longer for this damn 1.22 update I think Orange are getting serious grief on Twitter sand these forums

but I think all the other networks have their own issues
[Desire General] deniros:
hi guys

I still have desire orange with android 2.1 and software 1.15.

I've rooted the phone with unrevoked 3.21 just to have a play around with some of the apps that required root.

Anyway my question is will i still receive the OTA update to 1.21, and then froyo from orange?

I don't mind the wait, just wondering if it will come, and will it unroot the root?

thank you.
[Desire General] jdta09:
It seemed to be my PC that was the problem. (win7 64). I brought the update into work and did it on XP machine there and it went fine.

So don't give up.
[Desire General] dgattenb:
I still have had not reply back from the MD .... normally they are good and reply back to me in a few days , I have spoken to orange helpdesk .

I am saying that , as we have equipment which is not working for its intended use, thesefore we either need our monies back ,eg end contrcat or a replacment phone.

I know a few soliciters , so will go down that route if needs be.
[Desire General] jcskeet:
I couldn't wait either.

I've been following this thread for weeks. I have phoned Orange and HTC several times for information about the 2.2 (Froyo) update only to be told something different and more confusing each time.

In my experience and from the accounts of others in various android forums Orange and HTC seem to have been universally unhelpful since the update was announced in August.

I wouldn't be surprised if Orange, HTC or whoever is responsible today, never make Froyo available to those of us with the old 1.15.61.10 firmware.

I had had enough yesterday and finally de-branded using this link posted by ketledesire on page 27:

http://www.broadbandgenie.co.uk/blog/20100822-how-debrand-htc-desire-update-froyo

I used the Updated Newer and simpler debrand method

It was very easy to follow and I now have 2.2 with no Orange bloatware!

I have been able to transfer 14 MB of apps to the SD card (eventually most apps will be able to be stored on SD too)

There were no problems with loosing WiFi (in the updated method, once you have created the Gold card you update directly to Froyo from the Rom downloaded to your PC by USB cable.

The new Wifi Hotspot tethering works perfectly.

The new flashlight (torch) is brilliant!

The video recorder now has 720 HD recordings well.

Here are a few points that may help anyone doing this.

I found it helpful to print the above de-branding guide so that I could follow it exactly and see the the helpful comments at the end.

Use windows 7 to create the gold card if any problems with XP (I had some net 2.0 issues)

Make sure that you re-format the gold card and start again if you get any error messages or anything goes wrong at this stage.

Format your micro SD card by plugging it directly in your PC (it takes ages if you leave it in your phone and plug it in with the USB cable).

Keep checking that Debugging is ON on your phone at each step (It went off sometimes on mine)

Use XP to transfer the Froyo ROM to your phone if you keep getting "Administrator" issues with windows 7.

Also, as stated in the guide ,"use charge only mode" on your phone when flashing the 2.2 ROM. I was worried this was a typo, but it's not.

Most importantly take you SIM card out when flashing the 2.2 ROM.

When completed. Turn your phone off and put that nasty little Orange SIM card back in.

During the boot process your phone asks you if you would like to use Orange network.

Put the last few weeks behind you and agree.

Hey Presto, it should continue to boot up.

This way, whilst your phone will not be unlocked you will not have to pay for an unlock code.

Forgive me if I am teaching some of you to suck eggs. I have never done anyyhing like this before and found it a bit daunting.

I hope all of you still waiting for Froyo are more convinced to re-brand.

GO FOR IT!

PS: I used Mybackup Pro (on Android Market) to backup and restore all my data (including bookmarks, setting, etc) and apps.

It is very easy to use and wll worth the USD 4.99. Worked a treat. No problems.
[Desire General] roscoe141:
This thread is slowly turning into a unbranding/rooting guide. Can we stick to the original thread title for the members looking for information on an official Orange UK Froyo 2.2 upgrade date released..

Thanks.
[Desire General] olly230:
@orangehelpers has gone quiet.

nothing for 22hours...
[Desire General] jcskeet:
I'm sorry. I am only trying to help.

Patience is a virtue, but the Deisire will be obselete by the time Orange release the update.

Why continue waiting indefinitely when you can have something better today?

:)
[Desire General] dgattenb:
If you want to unbrand .. fine .. thsi is a HUGE forum .. and i'm sure there are threads thats can help you , this is not one of them .

I have my desire for another 2 yaers , what ever happends ... so until I get rid off it.. I would like to upgrade via ornage... not for any other reason , than they are bugging me...

Lets see what happends...
[Desire General] jcskeet:
You're right. I apologise again.

Your patience and loyalty is commendable.

I hope Orange release the update very soon.

Best of luck.
[Desire General] Elementasia:
If I can I'll wait for the official update, but it's getting more and more tempting to give them the finger and debrand.

The whole affair has become a massive joke.
[Desire General] olly230:
it will be time for gingerbread when orange finally sort this one out
[Desire General] stats101:
...and then the whole process will start all over again. :S
[Desire General] pulser_g2:
You are not far off. By the time HTC got their act together for the hero 2.1 update (which we had running using leaks etc ages before), froyo was announced and being ported across from emulator dumps... and no official froyo for hero, so it is up to devs to bring it to hero.

I wonder if the desire will get gingerbread...
[Desire General] Jack Wood:
Hi,

I'm sorry if this is a stupid question, but if I have the handset unlocked by Orange, will I be able to get the updates that are available on the HTC website? Or is the handset still technically branded, even after unlocking, and therefore won't update through the regular non-Orange channels?

Thanks
[Desire General] olly230:
The lock isn't the problem - thats just to allow other operators sims in your phone.

Settings-about phone-software information

is where you need to look.

If Software number (not android version) is 1.5 then nothing doing, you need to wait for a pre-update update. (this is the bit that is really annoying everyone)

If its higher then you're in the que for the froyo update - people are getting it slowly and its just a matter of waiting.
[Desire General] crazy4ker:
Be patient

Yes it is annoying that this update is taking longer than other networks (as far as I know) but I'm very happy just to wait, but not for too long. I'd rather they have a safe update than a rushed and untested version.

It does beg the question, that why is there two versions of Eclair (for Orange customers) and why there wasn't an update from 1.15.61.10 to 1.22.61.1 months ago. I wonder what the difference was? But hopefully, everyone will be on the same version number after all this and they will only have to create one update for Gingerbread.

I've created a thread for people to subscribe to, so that when someone gets the update they can reply, then everyone can get a email (saying that someone has got the update).
[Desire General] Jack Wood:
Thank you. I understood about the 1.5 issue (which I have) but just wondered if unlocking was the same as debranding. Thanks for the clarification.
[Desire General] dgattenb:
Case Reference: xxxxxxxxxxxx

Account Number:xxxxxxxxxx

Please respond to executive.office@orange.co.uk

Dear Mr xxxxxxxxx

Further to my email dated 27 September 2010.

I have received further emails dated 28, 29 July and I can only advise that I have escalated the issues to the highest level within Orange for you.

Any emails that you send are automatically forwarded onto me direct and as we are only a small office, I am unable to respond with the volume of mails that you are sending. As soon as I receive any further updates, I will email you, until such time could I please ask for your patience in this matter.

I trust the above is of assistance.

Yours sincerely

Lynne Robinson

Executive Office
[Desire General] dgattenb:
From: HTC [mailto:eu-no-reply@htc.com]

Sent: 30 September 2010 13:07

To:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Subject: Regarding your message (1xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx4)

Dear xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Sorry for that. We are currently waiting for answer regarding that update from the developers. I recommend you sending us an email next week and we will have more information then.

To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number 1xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Sincerely,

Adrian

HTC
[Desire General] crazy4ker:
Yeah, forgot the only problem with people not replying is that it'll quickly disapear from the top of the forum list. It's called "Orange 1.15.61.10 to 1.22.61.1 update". It would be nice if one of the mods could temporarly make the thread sticky, just until the update comes out. (big hint!) Other than that people can always search for it.
[Desire General] brandall:
Lets get this done! Or not?

Folks

I clarify to start, this thread is for people that want 2.2 Orange Froyo, so let's focus on that.

There's little doubt that after I try it, I'll think it's crap, debrand and go for the generic HTC ROM, but hey ho....

In the mean time - let's all get Orange 2.2 on our phones without waiting for them to stop dithering and we can all judge for ourselves.

A few posts back we have the froyo link to go from 1.22 to 2.2.

So, we all need to get to 1.22! Orange aren't currently making this possible so it's down to us.

I NEED SOMEONE TO CLARIFY that a nand backup taken from a phone with 1.22 has ALL that is required, so when flashed to a phone that is currently in the state of 1.15 it will be upgraded? PLEASE CAN SOMEONE IN THE KNOW CONFIRM??

If this is the case, then we need some kind person who has 1.22, but not yet froyo - to do a nand backup for themselves - factory reset the phone - take a nand backup for us and post it here.

We all flash it to get to 1.22 and then we flash the full orange 2.2 manually via this link http://liveimage.htc.com/OTA_Bravo_Froyo_Orange_UK_2.17.61.2-1.22.61.1_R_releasekgeq7pl5ki68q0eg.zip

And we can all have Orange 2.2 froyo within the hour...

If the above won't work, please tell me so I can go back to just moaning at Orange!

Any volunteers!? :eek:
[Desire General] vindicatedbliss:
I started this thread....

It feels like ages ago when a dimwhitted Orange rep first told me they were releasing the 2.2 update on August 27th. I posted that info here and on numerous websites. Turns out they are incompetent.

I would unlock mine/debrand etc so really appreciate the infor posted on here so I havent had to scroll trhough all the entire forum. We all agree Orange are complete idiots who lie and say things that are false just to get you off the phone. I get it now Orange. You dont know what the hell you are doing so are trying to divert our attention from that fact.

Whatever.

Up until now I have not unlocked as I haven't wanted to pay for an unlock code. The dude above who posted on how he's done it without paying is the man - no need to tell him off like its your thread and we should refrain from posting stuff thats not about getting Orange 2.2. The truth is we are not getting Orange 2.2 - or haven't for a while so I for one and am sure I am not alone in saying that any info to help get me going to 2.2 on one thread with my Orange branded phone is considered helpful.

That said... cant believe still haven't heard anything. If someone was kind enough to do the nand thing to get us the link to 1.21 that would be schwingtastic. Nice one people. Keep it up!

Tito

Vindicated Bliss
[Desire General] roscoe141:
No one said it's unhelpful, no one is telling anyone off, no one is saying it's their thread. It was suggestion to keep the thread what it's supposed to be. An official Froyo update for Orange users.

There are literally hundreds of threads on dozens of forums with instructions on how to unlock, de-brand, root etc.

There are some people however on long contracts, myself included, who cannot afford to void the warranty on their precious devices and therefore have no option to wait for the official release. Coming back to the thread that's giving updates on the information we require and finding lots of duplicate posts on how to unlock and root etc when that info is available in so many other threads is a little frustrating. ;)

That is all.
[Desire General] ste1164:
I guess no one has the nandroid backup still :(
[Desire General] pr1z:
Am I the only one to get the irony of this email just sent out by Orange to developers

It then goes on to say:

Hmmm ... how about understanding the end users issues??

With this debacle in mind ... I wonder how accurate the information they will be giving out will be ;-)

Has anyone else noticed how quiet OrangeHelpers has been today??

Priz
[Desire General] jcskeet:
I take you point on board. Initially I was just looking for the Orange 2.2 update.

I had never heard of rooting/ de-branding or other such faffing with your phone.

I became increasingly frustrated at Orange's delay, lies and misinformation.

Reading the forums opened my eyes to other solutions.

I took the plunge and am very happy I did.

I would have never known about de-branding, rooting etc if other people waiting for the Orange update had not posted comments about this on this thread.

For me it seemed to be the obvious solution.

I just wanted to pass on my experience to others who look at this site and do not feel that they can wait any longer.

As for invalidating warranties etc.

-What's life without risk?

The risk is minuscule compared to the risk of never receiving Froyo from Orange anyway.:)
[Desire General] dazkgoodwin:
Debranded and happy

I was one of the first to get the Desire on Orange, so I was really annoyed to find us keen to give Orange our continued loyalty were last to get Froyo due to the interim update that has yet to appear.

So last night I debranded... it went OK until it downloaded the 2.2 update from HTC and then it wouldn't start up properly, with sense failing to load and SIM failing to unlock.

However I downloaded a generic HTC 2.2 ROM update onto the GoldCard, applied the update in recovery and everything was smooth sailing.

Android 2.2, no Orange branding.. working like a dream. No more damn 'Monopoly' demo clogging up my internal memory and apps list.. phew!

Orange Wednesdays and Orange a/c apps work fine, but does anyone know if we can reinstate Orange Maps? especially as my contract includes this for free in the price!!

Cheers.
[Desire General] padmane:
You can get the maps from the orange site direct.
[Desire General] KickAssMoves:
http://blog.gamermatrix.co.uk/?p=194

If you want the update to install manually, no need for nandroid backups etc, but I dont know anyone who has tried this.
[Desire General] daithioflionn:
wrote to HTC again

Hi,

I am still waiting on this 1.22.61.1 update that I need before I can get Froyo. This is becoming a bit ridiculous.

I am with Orange on Desire as I am sure you have guessed.

Dear User

This update is a FOTA, firmware over the air,we are still currently rolling this out to customers. This will come through your internet connection. You should receive the updates very soon. Not all devices will receive the updates at the sane time.

Hi,

From forums and message boards, it is clear that no one has received this update yet. It was supposed to be early this week and it is now Friday. No one has posted that they have the update.

User,

We are aware of many customers having received the updates and you should get this soon.

hmmmmmm

has anyone received it yet?
[Desire General] Elementasia:
Yet another generic email reply. :(

'Copy', 'Paste', 'Send'
[Desire General] AndyM85:
Sent HTC an email regarding the release of the 1.22.61.1 update, here's the reply;

Orange and htc are working together to get the 1.22.61.1 update out. out to the orange customers so they can recieve the 2.2 ota later on. basicaly you are waiting for an update before the 2.2 update, it will come (ota) over the air like a message. the update is being made by orange at this moment in time and yes htc are helping them with this. but there is no official time release of yet. please keep checking oranges website and htc website for further information on the update. sorry i cannot help any further on this matter at this time.

On the Orange website It says the update would have been available early this week and that HTC are working on the update. No mention of them also.

I have emailed HTC back regarding why Orange say the update should already be out but have not had a reply back as of posting.
[Desire General] olly230:
Isn't that just a lie?

That makes it sound like the pre update update is not ready yet, infact it makes it suond like the froyo update isn't ready yet!

Do we know categorically that no-one has recieved the pre update update yet? I thought someone a few pages back mentioned that one person got it.
[Desire General] GodGift:
well, on Orange website it sais that update will be ready early next week so... well... this kind of message is great - you can keep it on website as long as you can ;] time to check for update next week? :P

PS.

I think I'' debrand soon and go for Desire HD rom with latest Sense UI...
[Desire General] DeathJester:
Why stay?

I'm glad I came to this post. I was looking at getting a Desire, and I'm currently on Orange. Now I've seen how atrocious their support has been, I'll challenge them and see if I can get a better phone, or just head to another carrier. It's not like there's any benefit in loyalty any more; New customers get the best deals.
[Desire General] EddyOS:
You can still get a Desire, just don't get it direct from Orange!! Get it from somewhere like CPW and you get the unbranded generic handset which isn't tied to a network...happy days!! :D
[Desire General] AjUK:
From Orange Helpers onTwitter:

On Friday 1st October 2010, @OrangeHelpers said:

We have an update from HTC regarding 1.22 and Froyo.

'Sorry for the late response.

We will finish the FOTA testing by the end of today.

If everything is smooth, End user will get the update ROM from “1.15.61.10” to ”1.22.61.1” start from midnight.

I will keep you posted for the final testing result.

Sorry for the inconvenience.'
[Desire General] Zaphodski:
Yes, just saw that myself. From midnight (with caveat..) and I also asked HTC how long the rollout should take this time....
[Desire General] upsell:
Well Let's hope it works this time

I have had no luck debranding so my patience is thin

but even if it is released at midnight, with all of us trying to get it I guess it will be late tomorrow before even thinking about Froyo

But I will be checking at 12pm and 12.01 and 12.02 etc
[Desire General] garysargent:
My automated script just downloaded the 1.15 to 1.22 update! It is out - try the Check Now button now!

Filename: OTA_Bravo_Froyo_Orange_UK_1.22.61.1_R-1.15.61.10_releasewj7ctoapvmrkdk44.zip

Enjoy :)
[Desire General] IrfanSEAT:
Just dont get to excited as it says only if it passes there testing
[Desire General] Elementasia:
Mine's downloading now :)
[Desire General] Zaphodski:
Downloading now..... :)
[Desire General] upsell:
i think its out as Im downloading something as we speak
[Desire General] Zaphodski:
Make sure you have 25MB free as mine failed. Trying again.... :mad:

Obviously the guy at HTC who said this wasn't true was talking out of his ar$e :mad::mad:
[Desire General] EddyOS:
Direct link for manual flashing:

http://liveimage.htc.com//OTA_Bravo...61.1_R-1.15.61.10_releasewj7ctoapvmrkdk44.zip

To manually install:

1. Rename file update.zip (not update.zip.zip)

2. Copy to root of SD card

3. Reboot phone into HBOOT (hold down volume down and press power)

4. Select 'Recovery' and when at the red ! hold volume up and press power

5. Select 'apply SD:update.zip'

6. Follow instructions
[Desire General] garysargent:
Hmm the 1.22 to 2.17 update is 87MB so you'll need to free plenty! The 1.15 to 1.22 upgrade is much smaller as you say - around 27MB.
[Desire General] upsell:
Yep all downloaded just letting it restore my settings to be on the safe side before I try for Froyo

Thanks to Zaphodski for the heads up
[Desire General] topbanana4:
downloading mine to
[Desire General] Zaphodski:
It's finally upgraded (after uninstalling shed loads...) however it's now asking me do I want to restore my data from the SD card....? What do I do...?
[Desire General] ste1164:
Does anyone know how to get this update installed for rooted users i keep on getting an error :(

EDIT: Just incase anyone sees this. Rooted users can get the update but it will unroot your phone.
[Desire General] atomfix:
Then extract the RUU then extract the update zip and remove the HBOOT upgrade and recovery then repack into zip and flash away :) in fake flash
[Desire General] donald-c:
This will be good for the Orange users that haven't bought an unlock code, they have to release a new radio & cant exactly release one that sim locks your phone :)