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[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Danifamous:
Increasing battery life will have a direct impact on performance.

The "Powersave" profile will ultimately give you better battery life, but will keep the CPU as near to 245mhz as possible.

Performance will make the CPU run at full power

Interactive is a new one in some kernels, which increases CPU upon touching and interacting with the screen.

On Demand will increase the CPU when the phone requires more power.

Userspace i'm not too sure about, but believe it's a user defined one?

In the Advanced Menu, There are some editable values.

Sampling Rate is the "refresh rate" of SetCPU. The lower the value, the faster it will refresh the data. This will draw more battery life, but will change the CPU's power more reguarly.

Lower values mean the CPU will be longer to change speed, but will increase battery life.

Up Threshold monitors the current CPU load, and will upscale the CPU when the load has reached this percentage. I set mine to 85%, so if the CPU is running at 245mhz, and reaches 85%, SetCPU will change from 245mhz to a higher speed.

Ignore Nice Load I have no idea what this is, but I always leave to an OFF position (0/1)

Powersave Bias this is like the powersave profile, but is definable. Increasing this will slow down the CPU to save power, but will affect performance. 0 = 0%, 100 =10% 1000 = 100%.

I am currently using Pinky 1.8, Interactive is giving me issues, so I use OnDemand

Profiles:

Screen Off

245mhz/245mhz Powersave

Priority 100%

Advanced Settings:

Sampling Rate: 20,000

Threshold: 85% to prevent lag while the CPU upscales.

Powersave Bias: 25% (250)

These settings work for me, but different people use their phones in different ways so I can't say these settings will give you 2 month battery life from 2minute charge.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] webber2109:
I am also using Pinky 1.8, how come I have the Interactive option? It seems to work looking at the Info tab.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gogol:
And how long is your phone battery life after using SetCPU?

How much improvement you got for the same usage pattern?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Danifamous:
Well, I started the day with 50-60%, with light use, some updates to FB, 30 mins playing a game on the train, couple of hours on Cubed Player and using Juice Defender, My battery indicator is saying 11hours running, and still have 23% left.

Edit: Sleep deprived confusion
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] webber2109:
So Danifamous, the informations in "Info" tab are actually not real?

Because all along the figures there would change accordingly and i thought "Interactive" was indeed working.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Danifamous:
I have left a message on Pinky's Thread.

Interactive seems to be selectable, but after a reboot, phone becomes sluggish.

Editing the Advanced settings seems to freeze the application, making me FC it.

This could just be an install error on my side, but I have been trying to do some research onto the matter.

More on the Interactive feature is found here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=751439

Edit: I've tried to change sample rate to a different value, and it causes FC, but seems to be working at 50,000 (default) until reboot, where the value changes to -1
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] webber2109:
I tried changing sampling rate to 100000 but it did not FC on me.

And also from your earlier post you explained the meaning of each function but I got quite confused with the "Sampling rate".

You mentioned: Sampling Rate is the "refresh rate" of SetCPU. The lower the value, the faster it will refresh the data. This will draw more battery life, but will change the CPU's power more reguarly.

Lower values mean the CPU will be longer to change speed, but will increase battery life.

From the first sentence you seemed to imply that the lower the sampling rate, the more battery it draws. But second sentence you meant lower the sampling rate, the better the battery life.

I may have mistaken your explanation. Please kindly clarify again. Thank you!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Danifamous:
After I hit apply, I just freeze. Might be something to do with installation then, or I have just replicated a bug. I will troubleshoot with pinkolin next time he is on.

SetCPU:

All information is found here : http://www.pokedev.com/setcpu/

Sampling Rate - An interval (in microseconds) at which the governor will poll for updates. When this happens, the governor will decide whether to scale the CPU up or down.

So if the value was set at 20,000, every 20,000 microseconds the governor (OnDemand, Interactive etc) would require power to send a query on the CPU load. This means it would ask "What is the current load? Do you require more processing power?"

This makes the CPU change speeds more regularly.

If the value was higher, the governor was ask less, which requires less power, but would take longer to change.

Sorry if I didn't make it clear. It's a very hard topic to put into words.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] webber2109:
I get it now. Thank you very much.

It didnt FC on me even when I changed the value to 4294967295 when i am using "Ondemand" after hitting apply.

However, when I press the back button and go back to SetCPU, it shows 20000 again.

Another test i tried, when i am on "interactive", i changed the sampling rate to 50000 and setcpu just hang there. I had to use task killer to kill the app and restart it in order to restore functionality.

When I am on "Interactive", I noticed my phone spent more time at 245 than 768(which i set) which made me wonder, doesn't it save more battery that way? Unless the data shown at the "Main" is not real.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Danifamous:
These are the issues with "interactive" and Pinky 1.8 that I'm encountering.

50,000 is default, so the fact it FC's when setting default values hopefully means I'm not the only one with issues.

Changing the sample rate in any other scaling profile is fine (had a few -1's after reboot, nothing major), just issues with interactive on Pinky 1.8.

Upon researching into this, Interactive gives the CPU power when the UI is touched (tapping the screen etc). This means the CPU will sit at 245mhz until say, the user taps on the menu, where the CPU will give the power when needed.

This would give large amounts of power-saving, but (I guess) would have issues like watching a HD movie or something that would not require physical interaction but would require large amounts of processor power.

This is something that is beyond my knowledge, and would have to be confirmed by one of the people working on the kernel here.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FloHimself:
The CFQ scheduler has nothing to do with the Interactive governor...
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Danifamous:
Ok thanks. I understood that the CFQ I/O scheduler was somehow related to the kernel and so was the clock speeds, so I just tried to use my brain and think they was somehow directly related.

Just shows my phone has more Sense than me ;p

Thanks for clearing this up. Been trying to catch up with the android/linux development, but I tend to jump the gun abit....

Edit: Yea, been looking at the wrong thing. CFQ is to do with storage -.-
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Software Guru:
Thanks for this
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brandall:
SetCPU has been kicking around for a while now, so I thought I'd bump this thread to see if settings have been tweaked and improved with more user experience.

Anyone else care to add their set-up and why?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mikey7436:
When I bought the phone the day after it came out, I asked the t-mobile guy about 4g and he said that the vibrant is 4g capable so when 4g comes to t-mobile the vibrant will be connected to the 4g network. Is this true?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nearblack:
I'm not so sure... From what I know we don't really...

We will get enhanced speeds, but not the full boost.

But to be honest, it's not something that looks that appealing...

Realistically you will only getting a bout a 15% speed boost, and the coverage will be so limited, so it's no big deal.

The HSPDA network we run on are as fast or faster than anything any other network uses right now. I'm content :)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kolyan:
G2 is the only phone with "4G" network
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] my fear:
ive heard that the hspa+ (4g speed network) will go as far back as the g1. so im sure the vibrant with have it.

and here is a excerpt:

So, how do you get in on the newly-available 4G-ish speeds? If you’ve got one of the handsets pictured above (or the Samsung Vibrant, not pictured), just flip it off and back on — chances are, you’ll see the change right away. Be sure to let us know how the new speeds are down in the comments

from this site, but until its released in a city your in we wont know.

http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/07/20/t-mobile-fires-up-4g-speed-hspa-network-in-another-25-cities/
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gsvnet:
Ok, this is really very simple to explain.

The vibrant supports up to 7.2mbps speeds.

Every T-Mobile 3G-enabled tower establishes an HSDPA connection with this device, with up to 7.2mbps downstream.

3G-enabled towers that are capable of HSPA+ (21mbps) have additional backhaul, which makes it possible to see close to the 7.2mbps speeds.

Towers that haven't been upgraded aren't likely to have a lot of backhaul, so the speeds will be relatively slow, even though the actual HSDPA data session supports up to 7.2mbps.

This is why when an area is upgraded to HSPA+ the vibrant sees better speeds, even though it doesn't support HSPA+. It all has to do with backhaul.

Backhaul = connectivity to facilities equipped with large amounts of Internet bandwidth

Vibrant does not support any kind of actual 4G, but its speeds can be excellent.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] junkdruggler:
3g gets up to 6 down I believe so unless a 3g tower is in your backyard and you are the only person using 3g, you will notice a difference when the flip the switch...
[Desire General] Chazaxl:
My wife dropped her phone while getting the youngest out the bath.

She brought it to me and I left it in a warm place to extract any water.

The phone now powers, surprisingly but only gets to the HBOOT menu page, I cant select anything like up / down / power etc, so seems stuck.

I suspect the ROM has been fried, at a minimum. Is the phone recoverable?

Thanks
[Desire General] Tander_ZA:
Strip the whole phone down. (There is a tear down guide with pictures somewhere on these forums for it)

Then clean it/ leave it to try for a few hours and then put it back together and see if it boots up.
[Desire General] Chazaxl:
Thanks. I dont have the tools to open it and it voids any warranty that 'may' still be available.

Ive left it overnight above my PC's exhaust fan which seems to have worked. Will be trying to boot it soon enough.

If its 'stuck' at the HBOOT screen, what are my options? Seems like the hardware still works but the software may be corrupted.
[Desire General] Chazaxl:
Its the same as before - stuck on the HBOOT screen. The power button works, it switches on, but even once in the menu on the default which is Fastboot, it doesnt allow me to select that. The power button seems not to work in this menu.
[Desire General] dingdong3000:
was everything completely dry? best thing was probably not to turn it on for a day or 2.

maybe try stick it in a rice bowl or something for a least 8 hrs.. (rice can absorb water very well).

failing that send it back to htc?
[Desire General] Chazaxl:
I think she had powered it when it was still wet, this is probably where damage could have happened.

I believe it to be dry now - there was little sign of water and the vapour around the screen area is now gone too since sitting over my PC's warmish fan.

Question is, almost forgetting about how the damage occurred, what are my options for getting a new BOOT loader or similar loaded, knowing that the phone does not boot. Can I make a gold card and update the phone, anything else?

Many thanks.
[Desire General] Chazaxl:
The volume up button has started to work, I can scroll through the options - what now?

Seems if I take the memory card and make a gold card, I may be able to recover the phone or am I missing something?
[Desire General] Chazaxl:
It seems to be working OK again. Im not sure what I did, I tried 'recovery' a few times without much luck, it hung on the O2 flash screen.

I then got frustrated and was pushing the power button a few times, it vibrated and came back to life, complaining of a low battery.

Its charging now, running as a phone - Ill put the Sim Card in later. The only thing is why it seems to go to the HBOOT menu, even if not prompted at the start ...

Perhaps a reflash is still worth looking at, wanted to get 2.2 on anyways.

Edit - I suspect the vol down button is screwed, hence why it goes to boot screen at start and also it doesnt work when the phone is now on. Hopefully it will be fixed as the phone dries out - perhaps Ill venture opening up the phone to sort it.
[Desire General] schalmers:
Unfortunately I had a similar mishap while on vacation, I was carrying my phone while crossing a stream and slipped and fell down, phone got wet...

After a few days phone would power up and "work" but I noticed a few things that I could not fix:

1) Phone runs very hot - always close to 40 degrees celcius where normal phone is around 30.

2) battery will not last for more the 6 to 8 hours with almost no use. High usage / low usage makes no difference anymore.

3) If turned off battery still dies in about 6 to 8 hours.

4) The worst thing for me was the phone thought the headphone was always plugged in even when it wasn't so it was impossible to get sound out of the normal speakers making the phone unusable as a phone without a headset.

It seems if your Desire has the water sensors red under the battery your warranty is void from what I read on the forum and around the net - HTC will not fix or they will charge you the same price as a new one to fix it.

So I decided to buy a new Desire and now use the old one to test custom roms before putting them onto the other phone. I was afraid to Root before but being I had a toy phone I had nothing to lose anymore and now I am addicted :-)

And as a bonus the Headphone / sound issue disappeared when I applied a new Radio and custom rom so that even works now. Only remaining issue is the poor battery life (replacing battery does not fix the issue).

Just thought I would share my story, I hope you have better luck then me...
[Desire General] Chazaxl:
Thanks for the info. I can see a red 'tag' inside the phone but on the battery itself there is a white sticker, is it either of these?

Ive gone ahead and bought a card reader and also a spare card - hopefully I can extract some value from it.
[Desire General] Lennyuk:
Both of those are water detectors.

Sounds like your phone has become water damaged but the battery didn't.

Your phone will now not have a warranty as a result and unless you have some sort of insurance that covers water damage (most don't) then there is nothing you can do.
[Desire General] Chazaxl:
Excuse the crappy pics, taken with iPhone :-)

See the two tags, one red, one white, that them?
[Desire General] Chazaxl:
Ok, thanks - see pics above :-(
[Desire General] Lennyuk:
yeah its what I thought, the water obviously got onto the phones tag but not the battery. Your lucky as usually when the battery tag goes the battery stops working.

Phones are often programmed these days to stop working when water is detected even when the phone is actually fine (easy way to get more money I guess). So I would be quite happy its still working if I was you :)
[Desire General] Chazaxl:
I need to figure out if its the software thats screwed or if its the volume buttons. They partially worked earlier, now nothing, back to boot screen.

Going to try and create a gold card to allow me to upgrade HBOOT and take it from there.

This is one of the first phones, so should be AMOLED screen, less risk for HBOOT upgrade?
[Desire General] paprkut:
easiest and best way to sort it out would be between the two options:

-buy insurance online, wait a few weeks then claim

- try and fix it, then fail miserably and wish you just bought insurance
[Desire General] Chazaxl:
Dont sound like good options - ....

Dont want to curse it but its running again, down volume also working.

Ive got some of the updates on a gold card, got an error with it, not sure why but less tempted to fiddle if the phone works as normal.
[Desire General] dragonithe:
I got the same problem about a week ago when i cycled and it started raining really hard. so my desire got half drowned because i didn't have a rain jacket.

At first it appear as if my phone would work normally again, because the power buttons didn't work when i wanted..

However, a week later, it feels as if nothing has happened. so keep on praying ;p
[Desire General] pwhooftman:
Sounds to me you really should let it dry even longer because of the fact its seems to be still coming back to life. Take off the cover, battery, sim and sd card, stick it in a rice bowl or hang it in your pc fan airflow for 1~2 more days.
[Droid Incredible General] leech2082:
I just want some opinions! Im about to get a new phone and I am leaning towards the Incredible because I currently have the Eris and its been great. I really like HTC. But I wanted to see what you guys have to say... The price is the same for both if I upgrade.... Never really been a fan of Motorolla but seems like a viable option... Anyone got the time to answer
[Droid Incredible General] satchdaddy:
I've compared the two phone and for me, other than the battery life, the Incredible wins hands-down. I think the screen is WAY too big on the X to use as a nimble one-handed device. The display on the DI is much better than the X.

...Plus, ever since my StarTAC experience, Motorola can kiss my hairy donkey. :D
[Droid Incredible General] tcberg2010:
Motorola makes great phones. The inclusion of a separate gpu is awesome. That being said I would take my incredible over the Droid x any day of the week. The sense UI is much much better then motoblur, the screen is wayyyy wayyy to big. Performance wise its great, but do u really want to always be carrying a psp in ur pocket?
[Droid Incredible General] leech2082:
youve both mentioned the same the same concerns I have.. I dont want a brick in my pocket.. I love the eris for alot of reasons but size is a big thing... I have friends with the moto droid and I cant stand having it in my hand... i was thinking i might be able to get used to it though.. have either of you rooted... and was it a hard process.... i rooted my eris and had no problems doing it but it makes me nervous getting a new phone and messing it up...
[Droid Incredible General] rdmerck:
In my relatively short experience with the Android platform, I have gone (in the following order) through the following phones:

HTC Incredible

Moto Droid X

Moto Droid 2

HTC Incredible

I got the Incredible initially as a parting gift to myself for being fed up with BlackBerry. I was immediately wowed by the phone. It's speedy, takes great pictures, great call quality and I've experienced no reception issues.

Then, the release of the Droid X. The phone is huge, however the lightweight of the device offset this and didn't bother my hands once I got used to it. After my developing obsession with development and modding had fully set in, I became upset with the phone because of the heavily locked bootloader. The fact that the Verizon store I purchased it from said I'd have 2.2 in 2 weeks from the launch date (never happened and still hasn't happened) didn't help.

I was happy with the phone, however, the pictures that it took seemed overly grainy and I wasn't that impressed with the 720p quality which seemed too choppy and not as smooth as I had expected. Call quality again was excellent, however the speaker volume seemed to lack (compared to my Incredible). I was not a fan of ninjablur either.

Then the Droid 2 was released. I was on a mission to get an officially released version of 2.2. I figured that the original Droid had been a hit, and all the guts under the hood were revamped for what should seem to make an amazing phone. WRONG. Slow as hell, choppy, negligible call quality, rampant overheating which crippled your ability to use the phone etc. (if the Droid 2 performance is what people can expect when the X gets it's upgrade, I feel bad for you guys)

So now, I'm back to my Incredible that I stuffed in the drawer while going through those upgrades. I'm happier with a camera that comes with a better camera, snappier operating system, S-OFF and a plethora of customization options. The 2150 battery gives me between 2-3 days of no charge, and I'm happy with my loud speaker volume as well. Plus, after installing the 2.2 RUU that was recently released, I'm happily enjoying solid Linpack scores in the mid to high 30's, fixed bugs etc.

I say get the Incredible, I believe it to be a better phone all around. And you'll appreciate the wide range of options you have for the phone as well.
[Droid Incredible General] tktouch12:
i am also trying to choose between the two. i'm leaning to the incredible because i think htc makes better phones and i love sense (a lot) but the reason i'm considering the x is the screen is so big. i think thats really great, and it has swype and an hdmi and stuff. but i feel like besides the screen being smaller on the inc, htc makes everything work much better than motorola
[Droid Incredible General] Joe92T:
Used to own an incredible, had s-off on it, SkyRaider and everything, then gave it to my girlfriend and got a Droid X, i wouldnt go back

Ive attached a benchmark of my rooted Droid X running Froyo, take a look below...

Also the bootloader thing has been bypassed... we have clockworkmod recovery now and can flash custom roms, also one thing that should be known about motorola is that they make one HELL of a radio for there devices... In my house my HTC Incredible used to fluctuate between 2 and 3 bars.. mostly on two... with my Droid X its been dead nuts 100% full signal the whole time and dosent budge.. and i was using the 2.15 radio in my inc but had the same issue on the original 1.0 baseband
[Droid Incredible General] rdmerck:
While I can say I'm impressed with the Quadrant Scores, being that there are known flaws in the system that can be tweaked to yield higher Quadrant benchmarks means (as simple as changing a numerical value in the build.props, and I'm not accusing you of such just to be clear) that it can no longer be used as a reliable benchmarking system... especially if you are not using dead stock software that has been cooked, pulled or whatever.

It is also well known that "Bars" are not reliable indications of service reception. Holding my Droid X and Incredible right now as I type; the Droid X is showing full bars at -98dbm, while the Incredible is showing 2 bars -95dbm.

Just saying that's all :)
[Droid Incredible General] Joe92T:
My incredible used to get anywere from 85 to 98dbm in my house, my X gets 72dbm, the X will always score higher on quadrant simply because its just plain got a better processor, however slight of an advantage it may be, its still something... but the major thing is the seperate GPU that throws it worlds ahead in graphics processing.. on quadrant in the first 3d demo where you are walking through the tunnel i get consistent 28 FPS.. even while turning the corner which is where it normally drops, it dosent drop on mine
[Droid Incredible General] Joe92T:
I'm not saying the incredible is a bad device, as I used to own one.. However just an fyi my droid x scored a 1200 on quadrant right out of the box it was the first app I installed, and that was running 2.1
[Droid Incredible General] rdmerck:
And I'm not knocking the Droid X in anyway. Both phones are incredible (yeah yeah I know its a pun) devices. Both just fill different niches in the Android community.

Which I why I love and am obsessed with Android. No one-device-fits-all environment!

Eat **** Apple.