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[Captivate Accessories] JRd1st:
I got the black Amzer jelly case from Amazon. IMHO the quality is perfect.

I got this one because it has the textured grip feel on the sides and because the corners are thicker. I figure that thicker corners would do better at shock isolation.
[Captivate Accessories] kkeo:
It's pretty good quality. The only other silicone case I've had some time with was for the Blackberry Bold and it was Blackberry branded. I'd say they're the same. I'd say it's the same as the Amzer one but a lot cheaper. I'm not a big fan of the Amzer cases because of the design on the silicone and their hard case having the extra material at the top, with hole for the sensors, it's bit tacky looking.
[Captivate Accessories] hazard96:
is it bendable or pretty stiff?

...sorry about all the questions, im interested ;)
[Captivate Accessories] kkeo:
It's really soft, the edges around the screen give pretty easily. It's not soft to the point where the phone is going to pop right out, there's enough of a lip around the screen to keep that from happening. It's tight all the way around so the phone doesn't move around in it. Seriously though if you don't like it, you're only out $4. That was my reasoning anyway.
[Captivate Accessories] hazard96:
good point :P thanks! nice to have people give their reviews and deals on things
[Captivate Accessories] hazard96:
or for 10 bucks, you coulda gotten this: http://www.amazon.com/Silicone-Prot..._14?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1283030838&sr=8-14
[Captivate Accessories] sfernandez:
I know you guys posted these links but the prices went down since you guys posted them and THANK YOU :D

http://www.amazon.com/Silicone-Prot..._14?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1283030838&sr=8-14

3.99

Black Silicone Case / Skin / Cover, LCD Screen Guard / Protector & Car Charger for Samsung Captivate SGH-I897

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Silicone-Samsung-Captivate-SGH-I897/dp/B003Z741PK/

.93

Black Silicone Case / Skin / Cover for Samsung Captivate SGH-I897
[Captivate Accessories] mdsannihilation:
i went to a mall kiosk today and put my phone inside one of these and it is really slick... the lady seemed irritated that I didn't want to purchase it. feels like a dry-ish dolphin
[Captivate Accessories] kkeo:
The case I got was the opposite, it's pretty damn sticky... like sticks to your pant pockets or the inside pocket inside my wife's purse. Also picks up a ton of lint, dust, etc. I'm starting to dislike it...
[Captivate Accessories] whitesedan:
^^^ I just received mine yesterday. I would have to agree with you on the lint part.

For $4 and change, I won't complain. This will have to do until I find a good hard shell.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897
[Captivate Accessories] dwmoss:
Picked up one of this as well. I can't really complain for the price. It is a little sticky, but i'm not carrying this in my pocket much.

dm
[Captivate Accessories] nbs11:
I got mine today. Great quality. It was exactly what I needed
[Captivate Accessories] fritzgerald:
I just ordered the set with the case, charger, and screen protector. Like kkeo and whitesedan I don't like the fact that it's pretty sticky and picks up lint pretty bad since I keep it in my top shirt pocket at work. I also don't like the seam where it's molded together. I'll need to take a razor to it so I can smooth it out. But then again for $6.19 shipped that's pretty good. It fit's perfect I just don't like how sticky it is. I'm still looking around for a case to replace it but this one works pretty good for the cost.
[Captivate Accessories] andrewdroid:
I have this same one and it's pretty good, a bit sticky though. The grip however in your hand is great, actually take photos better now because it grips so well. It's soft and easy to take off when I need to change the battery, (I bought this ebay $10 charger and dual extra batteries deal).

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JoeGoe:
So, I know this update was from May, but I have not received it. I used to have this update, then I rooted. I then unrooted by downgrading with a video I found in android forums. At the end of the video, the guy got the 1.22.605.2 CL161494 ota. I as previously mentioned have not gotten this ota yet. Is it possible Verizon stopped pushing this out in preparation for today's froyo release. If this is true, can I upgrade directly to froyo? If not, does anyone have an update.zip?

Thanks
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NoRegrets78:
Did the same thing, have the same problem. Since I'm an exchange user as well, I should be getting the May OTA. I know Froyo is coming but I don't want to wait for that to fix the exchange bug. Anyone know where I can download the May OTA before Froyo gets pushed to my DINC?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JoeGoe:
So, turns out that in a tweet from vzwsupport that you have to go to a store, and have them push the update to you.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ACD168:
This doesn't make any sense to me,

so why would you have to go to the store oto have them push an OTA update from May?, why woulnd't you just use the most recent 2.1 RUU to get the update, and wait for the OTA?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JoeGoe:
Two reasons, I don't have access to a windows machine, and I don't want to wipe my phone again.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ACD168:
So why can't you get it OTA??...
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JoeGoe:
From vzwsupport on twitter.

@username* If you didnt recieve the update since its not being rolled out you will have to take to a store and a tech will have to pust it.

*not my real username.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ACD168:
Yea I saw that I thought that was talking about the Moto Droid.. do you see how it says "since its not being rolled out" that's not talking about the Incredible as it is being rolled out.

I still don't understand why you can't get 2.2 OTA did something happen?? I could probably upload a PB31IMG.zip for you of the latest 2.1 for you as well so you can download directly from your phone.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] htc_woe_is_me:
I am having the exact same issue here..

After I downgraded, there was an update.zip on the sd card.. should I push this in recovery?

Also, I HAVE done this downgrade in the past and have always gotten the OTA like a minute after the first boot.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JoeGoe:
It's okay, I live literally half a block away from a verizon store.

To the person above me, really? Where is it?

I do have this mysterious file 984878548161.gz
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ACD168:
This is exactly what leads me to believe it has to do with the update being pushed. I had the same problem, so I just did the latest 2.1 RUU and got toe ROM.zip and made that into the PB31IMG.zip, and now I'm on the latest 2.1 waiting for the 2.2
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JoeGoe:
So, if I do the latest ruu will it wipe my phone? Will the PB31IMG wipe my phone?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ACD168:
yea both will.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JoeGoe:
I'll just go to Verizon tomorrow. Who knows, maybe they can push me froyo.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ACD168:
I highly doubt they will until after the update is fully done being pushed OTA. I bet they won't even have it yet to give to you.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] htc_woe_is_me:
I was on with verizon tech support about this. I'm driving I'll post findings soon
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JoeGoe:
I'll be waiting.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ACD168:
I just read that they can't even do it at the store for android, it is only done OTA.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JoeGoe:
I don't see why they couldn't. According to @vzwsupport on twitter the update is done rolling out. I believe them, it will have been four months since that update came on September 3.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ACD168:
You do realize your on the HTC Droid Incredible site right. the update just started rolling out yesterday, and doesnt expect to be done until next friday.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] htc_woe_is_me:
So I was on the line with a couple diff people at VZW tech support asking about this issue. She looked up my phone over on their end and determined that I was up to date and was running the latest version (pre-Froyo of course). I made sure to ask if this would cause an issue in getting the upgrade to 2.2 and she said, "no."

Obviously we know our phones better than anyone (we know that OTA is supposed to pop up!) so I wasn't 100% satisfied, but I felt a little reassured in knowing that it will not affect receiving the OTA

I was so mad because the first person I talked to was like, well maybe I can get you upgraded to 2.2 right now, hold on... Then I got transferred to a higher-up and she said there is no way for me to get a 'personal' upgrade, not even if i asked really nice lol.

Like I said before there is an update.zip that appeaered mysteriously onto my sd card after going back to stock. It is an 821.27k file, but I don't know if I should mess with it or not.

If anyone wants to play with it...http://www.megaupload.com/?d=R29ADR5X
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ACD168:
As long as you have the stock recovery I'd sit tight, it'll come.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JoeGoe:
If you read the first post, you will see that I am not talking about froyo. I am taking about the ota that came I'm May. I unrooted by downgrading, and did not receive that ota.

Hmmm... I don't think they were right. Before unrooting, the last number in my software number ended in 4, now it ends in 3. I'm going to a real store tomorrow.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] htc_woe_is_me:
mine ends in 0. 1.22.6.5.0!

did you see I edited my previous post to include the update.zip download

I dont know if someone can pick at it to see if it's the right one or not.

Nevermind.. It's nothing good

Sigh
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ACD168:
idk what itll take to convince you that you wont get this OTA because of 2.2 coming. wait for that.. the store wont help you. but best of luck man, post back with your results from the store.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JoeGoe:
Sorry I ment my build number.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NoRegrets78:
I gave up on searcing for the update and downloaded the RUU of Froyo dated August 26th. Extracted the rom.zip since the app didn't work right and renamed PB31IMG.zip. Updated to Froyo that way. Mmmmmmm, tasty froyo :)
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ACD168:
This is more than likely the same exact thing as the OTA. 99.9%. But I'm still waiting for OTA.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JoeGoe:
Just got back from the store. They said that because the software number is the same I should get 2.2. It's just a different build number. I'm gonna wait until friday. Then I guess I'll RUU or PB31IMG.zip
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ACD168:
I tried to save you a trip. just be patient.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NoRegrets78:
It was confirmed on android-forums.com that the RUU is the exact same version as the OTA!
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JoeGoe:
Manually updated with official links.

Had to use the official 1.22.605.2 update.zip and then the official froyo update.zip. The froyo will only come if you are on 1.22.605.2, not 605.0. I tried the official link on 605.0 and it aborted. So you will not get the ota unless you are at 605.0.

Also, when watching flash videos, the audio speeds are especially slow like slomo in a movie.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] csubrunner:
I finally found the 3.5MB File, after i booted that, I then proceed to boot the official OTA update and froyo went on just fine and didnt give me that 7 error message. I have the file but I am not sure how to post it. If you tell me how, im sure others will want it.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rulermon:
Im not dogging android im not trying to be a negitive nancy though i know somone will still smack me for it anyway....

(first and for most I DO NOT LIKE APPLE ITS TOO MUCH OF A TRENDY CULT) but they know how to-do some stuff the right way....

why does the android market suck so much I have had the hero now the evo and have LOVED both phones more then you want to know... but i just relized what me and my ipod touch compadrays lack... every week hes like OMG NEW APPZZZ and im like barcode scanner FTW??? or robo defence ftw............

im just estaticly happy we have such a great group of devs*xda-devs* because that makes the whole experience for me at this point because the exciting apps arnt exciting any more.......

if you read nothing else read this(what i want this post to be about) Why arent new apps popping up all the time... it seems like android phone are selling faster then they can keep them on the shelves but we cant seem to get developers to provide me with happs for me to spend my money on?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Brutal-Force:
I am not sure how long you have had your EVO for, but outside of the top Free Apps, there are a few apps of interest, but it really is dependent on you. I will give you a list of what I use and why.

ADB Wireless - Needs no explanation.

Air Control Light - One of the best time wasters and is really addictive.

Album Art Grabber - gets all of your missing album art (Paid for)

Android Mate - a simple way for removal of apps you don't want w/o using ADB

Astro File Manager - have been using this one since G1. Its a good choice between that or ES File manager. (Paid for)

Better Cut - for individual shortcuts and main screen Icons.

Call Block - Needs no explanation.

Carr Matey - Great when your in a huge parking lot to help remember where you left your car.

Chrome to Phone- easy way to send Links/numbers/addresses from your desktop to your phone.

Dialer One- Great dialer replacement. I actually prefer the dialer in CM6 but it is not Sense compatible.

Documents To Go - Great to view Word/Excel and other M$ Docs as well as PDFs (Paid for)

Lets Golf - Great Game (Paid for)

Pandora - A must have. Is more valuable than a FM Radio App.

PhoneMyPC - Great for controlling my PC while I am not home. I can pull up documents on my PC and email them to myself, or turn stuff on, monitor my appt with my web cam and so on.

Solitare - Best game in the world

Robo Defense - Great Time waster

Truphone - VoiP Wifi to Wifi for speaking to my kids in Germany. Free!

Trillian- best IM program ever.

You really have to be in "need" of a program before someone actually designs one to fill that need. So basically your statement is why is there not cool programs. Name some of the programs you want/need, and then someone will tell you what might work for you. Also remember that Apple has 1-2 years on Android, and due to the fact that they only have to program for 1 phone basically, it is a lot simpler not needing to be compatible with 15 different phones.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hrshycro:
I have to somewhat agree with you. I came from an iPhone and bought the EVO without even touching an android running phone before. While I do love android - most apps really,

really,

suck. You just have to find the apps that aren't complete **** - look at it as an adventure. ;)

Thanks for the list above, too.

Oh, and in all my experances of freelance computer work...Overall, Java just sucks.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jkinnison90:
There's definitely some better apps on iPhone.. I miss my Mafia wars app, haha.. I'd much rather have android though.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bigmoogle:
Its what your used to. Everyone talks up the iphone apps and they certainly have the most popular ones (biggest market) but I soo prefer android over apple.

My current phone game is alchemy (not available on iphone)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rulermon:
thanks guys

I dont really have any particual needs my "needs" are PEGGLE and apparently zombies vs plants is also an awesome game.... they need to make an idiot proof music loading platform that will also assist me in finding games..... i just get soo sad when i see apps in the iphone/pad/touch marketplace that kicks ass,

I REALLY apreciate the list of games.... i downloaded some stuff off that list and am about to get my game on when i stop writing it....... ok I thought of my one and only true need::::
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Castle Crashers Android

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[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fapstick:
This statement just pisses me off. Java is a powerful cross platform language. I will take it as "like just your opinion man" and move on.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ritzbrie:
..but there is a Mafia Wars app in the market.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TJDuckett:
Is pay 10 bucks easily for cc on android. I don't think I've ever put as many grind hours into a game like I did cc and never will again. Best beatemup ever

All spelling errors thanks to xt9 on my Evo!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] superlinkx:
Java is a powerful cross platform language, but I have to agree that I haven't seen a lot of really blow your mind apps built with it (in the UI department at least. I've seen some amazing programming feats done with it, but UI usually is lacking in Java and Android apps) I think it has a lot to do with Java not being a very nice language to use. I'm having a horrible time learning it compared to other languages I'm working on. Of course I'm a programming noob, but still, C++ is so much easier to learn than Java.

Anyways, it has a lot to do with experience. I don't think a lot of Android programmers are really experienced Java devs, so that could explain some of the lack of appeal in a lot of normal Android apps.

From my own experience, a lot of the big name devs are making some great apps now with great UI's like Nook, Gameloft Games, Tweetdeck, etc. So I think the platform is beginning to mature, but there will always be crappy apps. Personally, I don't mind UI's as long as they aren't a pain to navigate and perform the functions well. Android apps are by far much more useful than their iPhone counterparts because of all the extra access and interoperability they have. If you haven't noticed, there are a lot of apps that build on other apps to get jobs done. Plus the way Android handles background tasks (unlike the iPhone with only allows about 5 different basic services to run) is amazing. There are so many useful things Android apps can do that the iPhone can't even touch when jailbroken.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SharkUW:
The platform benefit died long ago. Code for it now hardly more portable than C. It's simply rarely used that way as well as having so many branches for a particular platforms extensions. A language is only cross platform if you can actually run or build programs easilyfor multiple platforms. Dalvik really shoots that one down pretty damn fast.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hrshycro:
Exactly my point. Thank you for typing it out. Couldn't have typed it better myself. While Java is powerful, it's buggier than all get out. Everybody I know in the info systems world also hates it. I don't care for it it's really buggy and the UI is usually outdated, confusing and doesn't look good at all - usually.

When I've ran into client's problems, it requires a complete uninstall of it or the multiple installed updates, then reinstalling the newest update, or an older update because what they want to use doesn't work with the newest java update. :| It's especially annoying when they are trying to use two different java related programs and one only works with the newest update and the other one only works with an older update - just makes me day. ;)

I'm not programmer, but why are the apps for android programmed with java? Android is based of linux, right? Are there not other prog langs that work with linux?

Come to think of it: There's not very many products that google has made that are very aesthetically pleasing to look at or use, but they work.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mast3rpyr0:
You can code with C or C++ if you use the NDK (Native Dev Kit). Im not sure if you can do the whole app that way or just parts but it just seems more difficult. But I learned java in a highschool class, and despite its failures, its easiest for me to use.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xeroxsmm:
I definitely recommend looking for new apps using App Brain. As long as you're not strictly looking for games, I've found a lot of jewels in there I never would have found in the regular Market app.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] h3nG:
The thing that gets me most is not the lack of apps, but the inconsistency among apps.

1. Most apps carry their own theme and UI and does not blend well with the rest of Android.

2. Software updates tend to roll out slower than the iphone counterparts.

3. Resolution of the icons in some apps are blurry looking. Again this is because of differences between the resolution available for Android phones.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Westfire:
I would agree. There are a lot of bad apps out there but there are some really good ones I found with App Brain.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nebenezer:
I hadn't clicked on this thread yet because I totally expected some rant about something silly but I have to admit I do completely agree with the OP in that the market is not a good way to find apps. It's the place to GET apps but the "top" lists, paid and free, haven't changed much since I got my Hero last December..

I have never had an iProduct of any sort, and likely never will so I don't have any experience for comparison but I think the android apps are alright, no complaints other than FINDING them..
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kamiller42:
1. Google's Market needs upgrades, nothing major. Just add more and better ways to find applications. Sad a search giant has had difficulty getting this done.

2. Get AppBrain's application.

3. Android uses a Java flavored language, but not Java or even Java ME. This is why Oracle is foolishly suing Google.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bludragon742:
RE #3 - I'm beginning to wonder myself whether they should have used Python or Ruby over Java.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Last-Chance:
They aren't using java, thats what he was saying with point 3. Android uses a different language which is similar to java, but not java.

Also java > *. Java is used in phones, cars, sterio systems, tvs, gaming systems, etc..

Try to find a electronic unit where java hasn't been used in ;)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hrshycro:
Mmmmhmmm. And I've seen some 2k custom car GPSes and stereo systems that run on java and the UI is complete ****, just like most of the android apps. ;)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TJDuckett:
Well, this thread has gone to hell.

All spelling errors thanks to xt9 on my Evo!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IceCreaMan:
I agree with the OP which is why I signed up to be a Google ap developer. My wife has an iPhone 3gs and is constantly getting something new that I would want on my evo. hopefully our android market will continue to change and improve over the next 6 months as we continue to blow through inventories of Android phones get more consumers on the platform.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bluehaze:
Use Appbrain, theres lots of apps on the market they are just hard to find, this is a big shortcoming of the android market. I'd say 85% of the good apps available for iphone are also available for android. I've found pretty much everything I used on my iPhone for Android already with the exception of Angry Birds...my favorite game ever! It's supposed to be coming out real soon though, can't wait!

Anyway not all the apps are by the same developer but there are definitely alternative apps that achieve the same results some of the apps are better on Android and some are better on iPhone.