yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lilsalmon:
If I run the s-off procedure and then the RUU will that updated my radio also?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] avenator14:
OK i am all stock at the moment. I am running the stock HTC Sense ROM. And i have the stock recovery, but does it matter what Kernel i have?? i have the Hydra SSUV v0.3 (the v0.5 was for the 2.15 radio), will i get my update notification?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maslingc:
Would appreciate some help. I'm already rooted using Unrevoked and now I'm trying to follow the guides in the first few posts in this thread. Stuck at Step 2...

I'm looking at the installation instructions and it seems to be assuming that I have some knowledge that I don't.

From the Installation Instructions on the unrevoked page:

"#

Download the most recent ''unrevoked-forever.zip'' to a temporary location on your computer.

#

The update can be installed like any custom .zip file. Simply flash it from your custom recovery. Both Amon_RA and Clockworkmod Recoveries support custom .zip installs from the sdcard.

#

Either select the option to install a .zip from your SD card, or apply it as an update.zip as follows:

#

Place the update.zip file into the root of your SD card. You can do this with adb with the command: adb push unrevoked-forever.zip /sdcard/update.zip

"

I downloaded the unrevoked-forever.zip that is linked there. But what do I do with it? Is the update.zip this same file that is just renamed?

Thanks.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] k.electron:
you dont need to go back to 2.1. all you need to do is load the stock recovery image and hboot if u have modified that. then just run the RUU and you will be good to go.

you are right in assuming that. you will however need the htc drivers that are contained in htc sync for the RUU to be able to find the phone.

yes, RUU will update the radio.

so once you root, basically you have flashed clockworkmod recovery on your phone. so get the unrevoked forever zip, put it on ur sd card (which must be fat32) and then shut down phone. hold vol down and power till the phone goes to hboot and then select recovery. apply a custom zip from sd (the option is called something else but u'll find it in recovery) and apply the unrevoked forever zip that u downloaded.

if u dont want to search for it then before u put it on ur card in the first place, just rename it to update.zip now the recovery will just ask u if u want to apply update.zip

once this is applied by either way mentioned above, u will have the S-OFF, restore stock recovery and follow the rest of the instructions.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] k.electron:
i initially had trouble understanding this stuff and then people helped me out and now i think i have a handle on the process. if anyone needs help, please pm me your im handle or something and i would be glad to help.

i use yahoo, msn, gtalk, aim, skype, facebook chat.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maslingc:
"now either get the RUU -> xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=765596

or wait for OTA"

To actually apply the new 2.2, do I use the same method as you described above for me?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zmanzbo:
So I did the following steps:

Originally Posted by k.electron View Post

I just went through this process,

first do this -> unrevoked.com/recovery/[/url]

then do this -> unrevoked.com/forever/[/url]

then do this -> xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=756850[/url]

(put into sd card and hboot apply)

now u have an s-off phone with everything else stock.

How do I tell that I am back to stock and ready for the OTA? Is there something I can check?

Just want to thank everyone who contributes on this forum. It has helped me out a ton.

Thanks!
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maslingc:
Looking at another guide, I see that your supposed your supposed to run the RUU. Running this gives me a windows error involving "InstallScript Setup Launcher" which probably now takes it outside the scope of this forum. Windows XP, completely uptodate, any thoughts?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tmettler5:
I have a never rooted, stock Dinc...I think this page is what I am looking for...I would like to root before I get 2.2...I have also read steps that you are supposed to back up your sd card, and format it fat32...I don't really know anything, so don't want to screw it up...
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marcmarshall:
Yikes! I just installed the original boot loader and it wiped my phone. I didn't expect that. I ran Nandroid and Titanium backups. Do I just run the Titanium restore to get all my apps and settings back?

So I think I should have just had a zipupdate file. I guess I need to reflash unrevoked3, run a full Nandroid restore, and then a full Titanium restore. Just need verification.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brianem:
I think to check, you hboot again, then go to recovery, and if you get a do not enter/ warning triangle, you're good to go. You have to remove your battery to restart after this, though...doesn't seem to be a way to exit the screen that I could find.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zmanzbo:
Awesome. Thank you. I did see a warning triangle.

I know this is a noon question but I am still rooted and everything right? What is the difference between what I have now and what I used to have? Just no clockwork recovery?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brianem:
I'm pretty new to all this too, so I'm not sure, but I think this makes you "not rooted". I think the process of turning S-Off then reverting everything else is to stock is just creating a back door so regardless of what OTA or future updates might do, you can still root your phone, should you choose, in the future.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andybones:
Ok, so if you have the stock recovery you are no longer rooted.

if you have s-off, what this does is preserve your root abilities so when you flash a ROM without root, like say the OTA2.2, you can easily flash clockwork recovery back on to regain root.

hope this clears thangs up
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] metalmachine:
I followed the instructions with no issues however, in step 3, after rebooting it looks like I am still rooted and CWM is still installed. It didnt flash my device but only updated the HBOOT therefore leaving all of my apps + settings intact. Is this what its supposed to do? I thought it was supposed to flash the recov img.

And I verified that I get the red warning triangle.

Also, my HBOOT ver is .79 Shouldnt it be .77 to get the OTA update?

If so, how do I fix this?

Thanks

IncredibleC XC SHIP S-OFF

HBOOT-0.79.0000

MICROP-0417

TOUCH PANEL-ATMEL224_16ab

RADIO-1.00.03.04.06
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] k.electron:
the RUU is the update but its the full wipe update. the OTA is what u get over the air from verizon, it patches the system leaving as much as it can intact like custom apps.

hboot should read S-off and entering recovery should take u to the warning triangle. if both these are as described then ur ready for RUU/OTA

either redownload the RUU if its corrupt or update your windows installer if u havent updated windows in a while.

pm me and im handle and i'll walk you through it.

not quite sure what your question is

yes, also make sure hboot reads s-off

no, it doesnt make u not rooted. it simply restores the stock recovery. stock recovery is needed to update. if u rooted to get here, restoring stock recovery will not remove existing root. but it really doesnt matter since ur loading a new rom, so u will have to root it again regardless.

no. stock recovery just means stock recovery, ur still rooted alright. and s-off is a security unlock on the nand, so future otas can be rooted by applying an unsigned update.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cavsfan256:
s off and ruu

i followed all the steps and ran the ruu and now have froyo...yay....

but now when i try to install the clockwork recovery im running into a problem, when i power down the phone and try to boot into the hboot the phone vibrates 4 times and does nothin no hboot no nothin, am i in trouble here?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marcmarshall:
from k.electron:

The PB31img.zip I downloaded for the stock bootloader complelely wiped my phone. I wasn't expecting it. I never ran a restore with Nandroid or Titanium and was wondering if I needed both. I found out the Nandroid restored everything.

So I still want to accept the OTA and need the original bootloader. Is there a way to install it without wiping the phone?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andybones:
k.electronno. stock recovery just means stock recovery, ur still rooted alright. and s-off is a security unlock on the nand, so future otas can be rooted by applying an unsigned update.

sorry I guess I'm wrong, so what is it that makes you un-rooted with s-off?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cavsfan256:
disregard

nm im good froyo is saweet
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] k.electron:
yes this happened to me apparently i just wasnt holding the buttons long enough. do a battery pull, then make sure u hold vol down first, then hold power and keep both held until u get to hboot.

it shouldnt have done that. u can extract the rom from the RUU and rename it to PB31IMG.ZIP and then apply that via recovery to do it without wiping. then u will also have to update ur radio. since u have already wiped id recommend not doing this though as its harder. using the RUU as is, is much simpler.

the rom itself. ur right s-off is simply allowing to update unsigned recovery like clockworkmod. if u have s-off and flash a non rooted rom, u'll be un-rooted with s-off
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NYC Coyote:
k.electron.... just followed your signature to the new instructions to root...I love how you copied the "make love" to the updated instructions.

p.s.... still waiting for it to start pestering me to attempt this. Hopefully someone else will be the guinea pig first for the true over the air (yep...call me wimpy)
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] k.electron:
just go ahead and RUU already, u know u want it.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cavsfan256:
good call electron
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andybones:
thanks for clarifying that man.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jrdnthms:
Ok, i have a question. Is there a way to just unroot my phone, get stock recovery and wait for the OTA? I have done the following to my Droid Inc:

Unrevoked 3 > SU and CWM > Skyraider 3.0 RC2. I have S-ON and I don't want to turn it off
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] viper3197:
First off I want to say thank you for the instructions. I've been trying to decide if I want to root and the set of clear instructions helped me to take the leap.

Is the RUU exactly the same as the OTA? I know that the RUU clears the memory on your phone and the OTA doesn't, but other than that is it the same?

Trying to decide if their is any benefit in waiting for the OTA.

Thanks.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] k.electron:
u will have to flash the stock recovery and the 2.1 RUU also available somewhere on the forums. i personally don't see why you would want to do that tho. S-off does not impact the running of the phone in any way and its nice to have it just in case u want to root again.

yes other than the fact that the RUU will wipe ur phone and the OTA wont, its the same. also, u can titanium backup ur relevant apps from which u want data and run the RUU if u dont want to wait for the OTA. then u can just restore those apps that u need, or better still just the data for those apps.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ACD168:
Does the 2.2RUU update the HBOOT as well??

I think this is very important to those new and not familiar with S-OFF yet, jumping ship too early and not being able to root.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] viper3197:
Great thanks. I'll install the update tonight.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Liebow27:
I have the 2.2 OTA installed and never rooted before and I want to root, can I root or what?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ACD168:
If you didn't put it to S-OFF before the OTA then no, and if you don't know what it is, www.unrevoked.com and find unrevoked forever.

but either way, no you can't if not, and you need to wait for unrevoked to come out with a new process, which should hopefully be soon.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bigsushi:
Ok so I'm at this point and seem to be stuck. I followed the link and put PB31IMG.zip from the above link on the root of my SD card and rebooted into hboot. It scanned the file and returned 'No image' and 'Wrong image' messages and did not ask me if I wanted to update.

Am I doing something wrong?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] k.electron:
if i were to guess, u have not done s-off properly. when u go to hboot does it read s-off?

other possibilities are that ur card is not fat32, or that u have not put the right file in the root of the sd card, or that file is somehow corrupted, sometimes 16gb cards dont work, so try 8gb or less, the file is not named right...

thats all i could think of.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Phoenix111:
I had this problem also. After it said wrong image, it would run my zip, "recovery", but I still couldn't enter recovery with clockwork mod. I rebooted into hboot again, ran the zip again, and it worked. Basically, I had to run the zip twice.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bigsushi:
I feel like an idiot. Thanks for the instructions and the help.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Miltos1:
Works like a charm - except for Titanium Backup

First and foremost, thank you so much for the initial instructions. I was able to work my through things without posting a single time, though I definitely consulted a lot of other threads.

Second, everything seems to have gone - almost - perfectly. I got back to stock recovery with no problem (still S-off). I applied the RUU. I flashed clockwork back onto the phone. Golden.

My problem is that I then installed the two additional zip files from clockwork, but after installing Titanium it still says "Sorry, I could not acquire root privileges. This application will *not* work! Please verify that your ROM is rooted and includes BusyBox, and try again."

Any thoughts? I am going to keep searching the forums, but I haven't found any answer yet and figured I would just go ahead and post here.

=================================================

Figures - right after posting this I found the answer ... in the first set of instructions, no less.

In case anyone other noob hits this one:

1. Complete all of the instructions posted by k.electron (post #4 in this thread)

2. On your phone, go to the Market and install Busy Box

3. On your phone, go to the Market and install Titanium Backup

4. Follow Titanium's recommendation to click it's "Problems" button and update Busy Box

Now you should have Titanium Backup functioning.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] k.electron:
you dont even need the busybox app separately.. just install titanium, it will complain, click problems and hit busybox, done. i'll put this in post 4.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] emieczko:
The guide is outstanding. I did a lot of reading to build my understanding before I pulled the trigger, but in the end I followed the steps outlined here to a "T" and achieved Nirvanna, lol

Now to my dilemma: It was 3:00am when I finished this up, and my mind was a bit blurry. I should have called it a night... Instead, foolishly, I ran a full restore from Titanium Backup and watched in horror as it dumped a whole bunch of 2.1 system apps back on the phone.

The result was a minor mess. Lots of widgets that didn't work, a bunch of apps that force closed... etc. I pulled the SD card and did a "clear data." That seemed to fix the bulk of issues, but the phone still feels sluggish and I'm just not convinced I'm at a "clean" install.

What do I need to do from here to revert to the stock 2.2 RUU? I know what I should have done. I should have run a nand backup before I played around, but I didn't.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] k.electron:
just repeat the process from step 3 in http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=7864966&postcount=4

that will restore a stock recovery, then run the RUU, then put clockworkmod recovery, flash the payload-update and superuser, and ur golden
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hybrid86:
Could someone please help me? I've followed everything exactly, but I'm stuck on step 5.

I followed everything exactly, yet when I hboot, it tells me very quickly "No image" before just sitting there at the hboot screen. I did not change the clockwork recovery file name, and the card is formatted to fat32.

I've tried this on two cards so far. one was 8gb and the other was 512. both had the same results.

Help?

EDIT: solved it. I had to remove the ".ZIP" from the filename. Doy.

This post should be stickied. Thanks to you, I've got a free mobile hotspot that I can take anywhere :D
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] k.electron:
no problemo. and yes chrome appended an extra .zip for me too. i thought that problem was just mine.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tmettler5:
Question about rooting my phone and wanting to receive OTA update. I plan to use these steps: [Q] Want root AND want OTA - xda-developers.

My questions are:

1. Under properties, my SDCard is already formatted Fat32, so I don't need to do anything to that, right?

2. I already backed up the current content on the card, so should I wipe it first, or does it matter?

3. My card is 8GB, and I understand that the Dinc can take a 32GB card, but is the 8GB card fine to get started, or should I wait until I get a bigger card before I try anything? Can I just move the root files to new card later with no problem?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jrdnthms:
Ok remember to search the site but here are some answers:

1. fat32 is the correct format

2. If you wait for the ota you won't have a wipe. If you flash the ruu it will wipe it much like any other flashing of a Rom.

3. As long as you format the 32 to fat32 you should be fine. I am personally using a 2gb SD card and it works fine for me.

Sent from my unrEvoked forever Droid Incredible
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alexfrates:
Stuck at RUU install (USB error)?

For those of you (and me) that got stuck at running the RUU...

On Win7-x64, run in XP (sp3) compatibility mode to resolve the installer showing USB connectivity issue after bootloader driver installs successfully.

The RUU installs without a glitch in less than 5 minutes after that!
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Solomente:
A little help for a noob please.

I started with a completely stock Incredible and did steps 1 and 2 of k.electron's guide (ran unrevoked and unrevoked_forever). I don't want to install a custom rom - I just want to have S-OFF, then get the froyo OTA. In order to do that, I need to do step 3 of the guide, but I have two questions.

1. The linked thread to get the PB31IMG.ZIP lets me download a 3.3mb file. I ran a checksum and validated the MD5 matches so I know I downloaded the full file. How come other threads with these same instructions link you to a 140mb PB31IMG.ZIP file???

2. If I run the PB31IMG.ZIP, will it wipe the data off my phone or does it apply like an OTA? I'd like to keep my data and apps, if at all possible. I would think it should be possible since I've done no ROM/RADIO changes, just rooted and S-OFF.

Thanks in advance for the help anyone can offer
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] k.electron:
the link is for a stock recovery only. the 140mb file is the full rom and recovery. that is not required in our process.

no it will not wipe any of your data. it will simply revert to stock recovery. after that if you still interested in holding onto your data, find the update.zip available on these forums.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vvaffle:
I have Cyanogen 6.0.0 RC3 with S-OFF on my phone. I restored the recovery back to stock and installed HTC sync.

When I run the RUU, it reboots the phone to the bootloader, then windows 7 installs the bootloader driver but says that a restart is required. I don't restart and after a few minutes, I get error 171:usb connectivity issue from the RUU. So I restart and try again, this time the RUU doesn't see the phone at all and I get error 170:usb connectivity issue.

I have Win7-x86 and I tried running in compatibility mode (xp, both sp3 and sp2) and the results are the same. I have also tried uninstalling and reinstalling HTC sync and HTC driver installer.

Any ideas?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Serinety:
I can confirm this works like a champ. I have been running skyraider and wanted to see if OTA was out yet for me. I downgraded and re flashed stock (s-on, 1.x radio, stock 2.1) upon booting the phone as barbones stock, i got the OTA update message (yay). I ignored it, ran unrevoked 3, unrevoked forever to get s-off. booted back up and accepted the update. After OTA 2.2 was installed I flashed clockwork with p3mb113.zip (whatever it is) and then rooted from CWR.

entire process from downgrading skyraider to running rooted 2.2 took about 30 min
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Serinety:
I went through this when i was flashing the RUU on windows 7. It has something to do with the fact we are using different drivers when we install the SDK and mess with ADB shell. the RUU needs a diff driver and I dont know what it is.

my fix was to use my wifes laptop which has never had anything installed on it before (nothing having to do with my phone that is)

being that her PC was a virgin pc when it comes to HTC drivers, I installed HTC sync, plugged in my phone and ran the RUU. it worked first time. Both our laptops are win7. I messed with it for like 4 days on my laptop before doing it on hers.

my only explanation is the driver mess from installing all the crap we install.

If you are really good with drivers you can try to clean everything and then install HTC sync again (this process would involve rebooting 10000 times) or find a PC that you've never used with your phone and install HTC sync, or.. if you dont mind doing it. Just reinstall windows 7. Hell win 7 install only takes 20 min lol so that might be the fastest way.

Hope that helps. It seems most people with windows 7 and who have been flashing their phones with diff programs have had this problem.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vvaffle:
Yeah, that worked, I just used a different computer. Thanks. Even restoring my phone to the stock (but rooted) 2.1 image I had did not help.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mileryen:
Just wanted to say thanks- I'm a huge droid noob (got my phone yesterday) and was able to make it through all of this with win7 64bit without any real difficulty at all. Probably took me around an hour (moving slow double checking everything) from start to finish, glad I could get mine S-off before I got stuck with the OTA update. <3
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Soopafly Incredible:
So I'm sure the answer is here somewhere, but being a noob i'm not sure I understand all of the terminology needed to fix it. here's my problem:

I did the unrevoked root flash, along with unrevoked forever to turn my s-off. Then I returned my recovery to stock, like it said to do before accepting the OTA. Now I have downloaded some items from the marketplace (setcpu, system app remover) that say they are for root users, but they tell me I do not have root.

When I run the current (stock 2.2) recovery it tells me I still have s-off. What has gone wrong here, and how can I fix this to get root back?