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[General Questions and Answers] DOAlaboratories:
I gotta say, i love my samsung captivate (galaxy s AT&T variant). the development commmunity is growing by the day and there's a lot of really cool stufff for it. It already has root, the lag is fixed (thanks to a few programs) the CPU can be overclocked, along with many other things. what i would suggest is going to the development section for each phone and do a little research to decide which one you want for yourself.
[General Questions and Answers] pewpewbangbang:
I have a captivate.

I don't like touchwiz but i don't get where your hearing all this stuff about samsung firmware being buggy. Mine runs fine and all. Yes there are some problems with GPS but thats about it.

ROMS......they don't just come with the snap of your finger, yea there aren't many ROMS right now but that holds true to any new android phone. Either way, the only ROM you should worry about IMO is the Cyanogen roms and it's coming out for the Galaxy S phones along with many others.

Snapdragon is slower in terms of 3D applications....hummingbird tears it apart. Unless the Desire HD is getting a brand new snapdragon chipset that has an updated GPU that actually performs on par with PowerVR SGX gpu's, we won't know until it comes out. As for overclocking.....hummingbird is overclocked to 1.2ghz stable right now as far as im concerned. It's possible to get 1.6ghz but you need to overvolt, not sure since no one actually did it.

The phone is perfectly fine and fast. As for screen........super AMOLED is beautiful, idk if the Desire HD will get it, but if it doesn't, then the Galaxy S will still have a nicer screen, just less real estate. 4 inches is about the sweetspot IMO, International Galaxy S looks uglier than the Captivate though IMO.

But honestly.......if you don't play games or stuff like that, either phone will be fast enough. I just looked up the Desire HD.....seems to be running the same old Snapdragon but there are rumors of the newer 1.3ghz clocked version. Either way, both phones CPU will be fast enough for anything right now, but the GPU is what makes the difference and the Galaxy S has the PowerVR SGX 540 which is the fastest GPU in any mobile phone right now and will be until next year about when OMAP starts also putting it in their chipsets.

P.S. I like HTC design better and their aluminum body construction will certainly feel nice. I like HTC Sense also.....only custom UI i would take for an android phone atm.
[General Questions and Answers] MisterMonitor:
I like Samsung galaxy S much more then desire, but theese things almost forced me to buy HTC desire.

1. A lot of ROMs. What about a ROMs for Galaxy S ? If Samsung would be fast like a desire i really take the samsung.

2. OpenDesire

3. No problems with GPS, samsung promised to fix GPS. But im not 100% sure, dont now why.

4. Htc desire is really fast, no lag. People who have galaxy S says that they lags, lags on incoming calls, lags when you changing aplications and etc.

THe Samsung galaxy ROM is not reasonable on a google code (like a OpenDesire for a HTC Desire) to be identical to nexus one.

Google dont have a Cortex CPU, so no android version for CortexCPU. Samsung made their own Android, but it never be functioning like a google's .

And the android is optimized for Snapdragon not for samsungs Cortex
[General Questions and Answers] a67543210:
If you care so much about roms, you are probably geek enough to be able to apply the lag-fix. I`ve never experienced lag with phone dialers. Only with programs at times. You can actually live with the lag. Realising that it exist through forums makes you sure want to cure what you were coping with. Now, if you have a games console, you are aware that it loads at times. You simply cope with it because it`s the only option you have.

You can live with the lag if you are not aware of it. But you get enough speed boost when you apply the lagfix. Hopefully, Samsung will release a fix with froyo.
[General Questions and Answers] pewpewbangbang:
lol.....i mean no offense, but you don't know what your talking about haha.

custom ROMS are not made by the companies, they are made by developers like cyanogen or modaco or whoever.

opendesire is an example of a custom rom made by individual people/cyanogen team helped.

GPS is fixed now as far as im concerned, at least there isn't a problem with it on the Epic 4G.

Galaxy S doesn't lag, at least not for me and there's stuff in the development forum to get rid of that lag even if there is, the lag fix for example which does more of improving you quadrant score from the looks of it than actually solving other stuff.

And LMAO at the whole cortex cpu and everything. Snapdragon is a cortex cpu....almost all of the current CPU's are based off the ARM Cortex. Snapdragon, OMAP, and Hummingbird are all ARM Cortex CPU's, just custom revisions etc...they are all based off the same architecture. Samsung didn't make their own android lol, google makes android, samsung just put a custom graphics user interface on top of vanilla android. Hence touchwiz, HTC Sense, Moto blur, etc....android is not optimized for snapdragon only. If you talking about froyo android 2.2......it's gonna make all phones with it a ton faster.

The only reason why the Desire has so many roms and stuff already is because its been out like for a whole half a year longer than the Galaxy S has. Galaxy S has only been out like 1 1/2 -2 months. The Desire has been out since like April.

Whatever, both phones are good, i like HTC's design and Sense but in general, the Galaxy S is just a newer better phone.
[General Questions and Answers] MisterMonitor:
Thank you everyone for your good answers. I heard that so much ROMs for desire is because the geeks very like nexus one and creating ROMs for it. And theese ROMs can be made to be suitable with Desire, because desire and nexus one are very similar phones.

What bad i heard about samsung ?

1. Lags on a incoming calls.

2. Heard that voices freezes and lags when you calling with fring, nimbuzz and that person compared this situanion to iphone 4 in the same conditions and the iphone 4 worked pretty well.

3. If you are listening to music and in the same moment using multitasking and jumping between programs music starts to pop twitch.
[General Questions and Answers] foxmeister:
Sorry, but you are wrong.

The Snapdragon is *not* based on an ARM Cortex core. Qualcomm are an ARMv7 instruction set licensee, so have built their own custom implementation which is instruction set compatible and architecturally very similar, but is not an "off the shelf" Cortex core.

This link explains it very succinctly and the important part is quoted here:

The point is rather moot in that the performance of the Hummingbird and the Snapdragon is close enough at any given clock speed not to matter, but the fact remains that the Snapdragon is not a Cortex - it is however based on the same instruction set!

Regards,

Dave
[General Questions and Answers] pewpewbangbang:
oooo sry my bad.....completely forgot, either way, they are all very similar :)
[General Questions and Answers] MisterMonitor:
and i read that he catches a low wifi signal even near the wifi spreader
[General Questions and Answers] Dany0:
What you BOUGHT IT???

Dude I told YOU!! Get HTC Desire HD!!! You'll regret this!!! It is 12 days from launch DUDE!!!
[General Questions and Answers] MisterMonitor:
I didnt bought it ! Sorry for my bad english .
[General Questions and Answers] MisterMonitor:
Those not my minds, just from my country forum :

1. If the samsung will have ROM's so maybe it will be good phone. For now there is no creating ROM's for Galaxy S .

2. ITs GPU is very good, but useless, just shorts battery lifetime. And good for games(personally i am not interested in games)

3. The rapidity of programs and apps is slower .

4. Stock ROM is ****, and no custom ROM's for it .

5. Its good on a paper but not in a practical use.

6. Even with 2.2froyo and fixes it wont be better than desire.

7. If XDA will realease something for galaxy s maybe there is a hope for Galaxy S to be a good phone.

8. you can not adjust CPU to use not su much battery

9. The screen is only good in max brightnes but with it the galaxy S battery will get lower and lower very fast.

10. This is not popular phone so XDA will not make ROMs for it.

11. Very low chances to get 3.0 on Galaxy S, and bigger for Desire, if not by HTC, so geeks will hack from other phone and adjust for Desire.
[General Questions and Answers] Dany0:
1. No no, ROMs are the LAST thing you should think about. If the OS is good enough there will always be good ROMs.

2. No no, you're wrong, the GPU has more power so it can use less energy when rendering 2d or hitting FPS limit. Whilst the Adreno has pretty low power so it has to be in performance mode much longer. The battery is generally better. BUT you can buy an 3800mAh battery for the Desire.

3. No it's the same, games and loading times are faster/smoother because of the GPU and big internal ROM/memory.

4. No actually it has really good GUI. Personally I love the looks of the launcher, and the blue overall. It's just very badly optimized.

5. Who knows, you'd have to make a test: use both phones at once and do the same tasks, then you'll know. But if I could, I'd bet on Desire tbh.

6. Who knows, might be better then stock ROM imho, but never custom ROMs.

7. I'd not bet on it :rolleyes:

8. Eh... no dude, every android phone nowadays can do it.

9. Lol no, the Super AMOLED is newer technology, it has better consumption AND better quality. Remember, the newer, the better H/W. NOT S/W.

10. It's actually quite popular, just a LOT BFU/noobs buy it.

11. Even the G1 and Chinese tablets get newer OS versions ports. Desire will definitely get official 3.0 because N1 will get it too. Samsung may do it too to stay "cool".

But dude, read this and don't be fag:

The Samsung is better for entertainment in all ways, Desire is thousand times better in everything else. BUT stop being jealous about ANY of those phones, in other words you don't choose between Galaxy S and Desire anymore. You have only one choice - the HTC Desire HD. Everything else comes in a half a year.

HTC Desire HD:

4x faster then Desire

1/3x faster then Galaxy S

8Mpx camera

Double LED flash

Bigger and better screen

Bigger and better battery life

The only problems that MIGHT occur:

Might be too big for someone

The touch buttons may annoy someone

And someone might get annoyed by the absence of any d-pad/joystick.
[General Questions and Answers] MisterMonitor:
how can be this :

"HTC Desire HD:

4x faster then Desire

1/3x faster then Galaxy S"

Desire is faster than Galaxy S so how Desire HD can be faster than desire even 4times, and just 1/3 times than Galaxy ?
[General Questions and Answers] PaiPiePia:
No one knows for sure because there isn't a viable way to test Snapdragon vs. Hummingbird, there are just too many factors affecting the final results. The general census is that they are about the same thus Desire is about the same speed as Galaxy S. The reason his comparison is so ridiculous is because he owns a Desire and he wants a Desire HD. The damn thing isn't even released yet. Just look at this paragraph from his post...
[General Questions and Answers] Dany0:
You, you... in all seriousness, do you have ANY mental dysfunction?

Desire is no way faster then Galaxy S. It's HW is newer. Translate faster. Better. But it's SW is way out of Samsung's region.

Galaxy S's HW is faster, if you'd compare this action, that's not typical:

Unlock Phone -> Open camera app -> Shoot 720p video -> Close camera app -> Open video editor -> Edit Video -> Save -> Upload to youtube -> Close everything -> Lock phone

Galaxy S would make a total win. BUT if you would make some of these actions that are in use every day and every night... :

Phone calls

E-Mail

SMS/MMS

Typing/Notes/Memos

Calendar

Browsing

Youtube Videos

Desire is complete winner. BUT here comes HTC Desire HD:

4x the processing power of the Desire means that the not so typical action is faster then on Galaxy S, AND the typical actions are faster.

Also it has all the other physical advantages. And better support. And more ROMs.

GO FOR IT(The Desire HD), unless you're you know, you're mentally ill
[General Questions and Answers] BigMango:
Where have you seen that it would have 4x the processing power of the Desire?

The only information I have seen around the web was that the Desire HD would have the 1 Ghz Snapdragon CPU (which is supposedly the same as the Desire).
[General Questions and Answers] Dany0:
It will have Adreno 205, that's 4x faster then Adreno 200(1/3x faster then PowerVR SGX540).

Also it will have enhanced Snapdragon core. New smaller technology, more tranzistors. You know? Overall it'll be much faster. And since it consumes less, they have chosen a much faster sampling rate, so it's well... it doesn't have 4x the power, it has (the CPU, right?) 4x the response rate, and so the linpack scores will be almost identical when using whether performance or ondemand scaling mode. And it'll be higher overall, a bit. 1,3x max ;)
[General Questions and Answers] betoNL:
I have sgs...with beta froyo JPC .... The quotes above tell a lot, dont they?

At the showroom Before I bought the galaxy I compared it to htc desire:

The sound(music) of the galaxy is better (out of the box)

The screen of tg GS is impressive (super amoled

But the issues above quoted are quite relevant

I would go for the Desire HD if I were you.

Not going to waste thread space by talking about the iPhone

Oh yes no proper good,functional voice dialing (over bluetooth) on the galaxy; but I think it's an android issue...quite disappointing

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[General Questions and Answers] MisterMonitor:
i think Desire HD will be too large
[General Questions and Answers] MisterMonitor:
I heard that Desire's speaker ar not very good (sometimes you cant hear when someone is calling for you). What's about that ?
[General Questions and Answers] ozy944:
Might want to check those specs on the Adreno 205 again mate. Its predicted to be slightly 'slower' than the SGX 540.

http://androidandme.com/2010/08/new...ot-a-little-bit-faster-msm7230-cpu-confirmed/
[General Questions and Answers] MisterMonitor:
I read that you can feel the Super Amoled effect just only on high brightness. So if you make a high screen brightness it will use a lot of battery.
[General Questions and Answers] Unhelpful:
Indoors super amoled looks great on the lowest brightness. Outdoors needs highest, but is still readable in all but pathological situations, like direct sunlight on the screen from behind you. I cannot emphasize enough how pretty this display is. ;) And one of the develops is working on fine color controls, so we should end up with per-color-channel black and white levels and gamma.

As far as rfs goes, I believe its performance on the mmc device can be improved. It performs fine on the other partitions that use it - one of the lagfix hacks just links directories on /dbdata into /data. I think Samsung will try to do something about this issue in the future, but they'll probably try to improve rfs instead of replacing it.
[General Questions and Answers] SamHaLeKe:
Advantages Galaxy S over iPhone 4

4" Super AMOLED display

Corning® Gorilla® Glass

PowerVR SGX 540 GPU

Wolfson® WM8994 Hi-Fi CODEC

microSD slot, up to 32GB

Google Android OS

TouchWiz UI

Custom ROM builds

Custom Theming

Swype text input

DivX Certified

AllShare (DLNA)

Bluetooth v3.0 with A2DP

face and smile detection (camera)

FM radio with RDS

GPRS/EDGE Class 12

Adobe Flash Support

Li-Ion 1500 mAh battery

Stand-by Up to 750 h (2G) / Up to 576 h (3G)

Lightweight (119g)

anything else? :D
[General Questions and Answers] lakshmanm:
How about "Don't have to deal with restrictive iOS" ?:)
[General Questions and Answers] FLAC Vest:
Yep, one of the most important for me: Removable battery.

When I'm out all day, it is just awesome to be able to turn the phone off, and pop in another battery and have full charge; all under a minute.

I have the standard stock and 2 spares; I have never gone a day when I actually "had" to use a charger.
[General Questions and Answers] betoNL:
You guys are still wasting time talking about the i-Phone???

When I bought my sgs a couple of months ago, the i-Phone was around that time almost 300 EUROS more expensive.

For this abusive price, the i-phone should be better than all smartphones. And it's not.

That Steve Jobs is a smart guy. Cannot really say the same about i-Phone buyers :eek:

So the sgs is not only better...if you compare prices, you can actually say:

It's waaayy better....

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[General Questions and Answers] men$hoot:
Yes,,, im not a fan of Iphone too...im using htc hd2 with NAND Android,,,and its fast and smooth. I love this phone now!
[General Questions and Answers] cemce:
iphone rox!!
[Streak 5 Accessories] axninja:
Hello,

Anyone know where i can get armband for the Dell streak, its hard to find one that fits 5" screen.

Thanks
[Streak 5 Accessories] Amdathlonuk:
LOL.....you are kidding aren't you? :D
[Streak 5 Accessories] flumps:
dude......you need to go buy yourself an iphone so you dont go asking stupid questions like that around here again
[Streak 5 Accessories] joeclark:
I actually run in the mornings as well and have ALWAYS used my phone for my mp3 player when i do so, I would also like to know if anyone as found one.

My daughter would like to have her mp3 player back since i basically jacked it from her and wont give it back. Hers even has the micro sd slot so i can even listen ot my own tunes and i am not settled with her chick music crap. but it does not have blue tooth so i can use my stereo blue tooth headset that i have used for the past 3years. (i really got used to the no wire thing)

I also bike ride too and would love a way to strap it to my arm or somthing for that as well.
[Streak 5 Accessories] Radimus:
try a backpack... or one of those ancient things called a "fanny pack"

I suppose you could slip in under your sweat band...
[Streak 5 Accessories] joeclark:
I actually tried an old sweatband but it did not hold it very well. it would not even hold it accross the room.
[Streak 5 Accessories] flumps:
have you tried tucking it into your panties

...just a thought
[Streak 5 Accessories] Troute:
The problem with waist band type holders when jogging is that area takes a lot of shocks from landing feet which I think is partly why arm bands were invented in the first place. The Streak is too big to fit comfortably on the arm though I'd have thought.
[Streak 5 Accessories] p_razzi:
Take a look at skiing accessory suppliers - a lift pass holder might work if you can find one large enough.
[Streak 5 Accessories] axninja:
yea...i guess we will just have to wait till some company make one, till then we can't really use the streak while exercising.
[Streak 5 Accessories] yokuoh:
Funny!

The funniest thread I've ever read!

:-)
[Streak 5 Accessories] flumps:
couldnt agree more.

" oh man i love my new laptop, i just wish it came with a armband so i could surf the web while im running"

in all seriousness though. a wrist strap would be a better idea since the phone functions in landscape. now that sh*t would be scifi. hell all you need to sort that out would be a rubber skin and some black nylon straps
[Streak 5 Accessories] Taelon:
Have you checked in to getting one of those new fangled MP3 players all the kids are raving about?

Now that I would get.
[Streak 5 Accessories] spope78:
What you need is a Cell-mate, Google it. Would be perfect for your needs and you can do away with the silly wires too then ;)
[Streak 5 Accessories] fards:
what a bunch of obnoxious arses people have become lately..

I think I'll join in as well!

I'd quite like an armband for my streak, and it doesn't look too big on me, but then I'm not a 15yr child like some of the posters here are behaving like!

I use mine while exercising, i use it everyday cycling to work. I've taken to keeping it in a rigid sunglasses holder and have a belt fitting for that, but its not ideal although mytracks and mixzing running over bluetooth. Mytracks voice announce feature is superb.

But for navigation I need a better solution as I need to see the screen.
[Streak 5 Accessories] Charles::
I don't understand what the big deal is here. I would like an armband too. Sure, I could get an MP3 player, but why? The streak plays MP3's. In addition to that, wearing it on your upper arm would work just fine with the landscape format...just lift your arm up a bit (as if you were looking at your watch) and it should rotate so that you can read things normally.

I got this thing so it could satisfy as many of my needs as possible. Using it at the gym to track my workout and listen to music falls under that category.
[Streak 5 Accessories] joeclark:
i was begining to think i was the only one that honestly was interested in this (other than the original poster) Thanks for chiming in guys.
[Streak 5 Accessories] Keethos:
I also wouldn't mind getting an arm strap, as long as it was designed well and not just a pocket that then wraps around your arm cos the then it wouldn't sit on your arm properly and would eventually swivel, loosen and then fall off due to the gap (phone being wide and flat and your arm being round).

I currently use a waist pouch fanny pack p*ss bag (its yellow :D) thingy along with my bluetooth headphones and it works perfectly for me at the mo but then again, I don't run on the treadmills so I wouldn't know how it would cope then (I either cycle or use the Xtrainer). Still, nothing wrong with wanting an arm strap!
[Streak 5 Accessories] jrdemaskus:
I was looking through PSP accessories for goodies to maybe modify, but the PDAIR flip case should meet MY needs. Long wait for it to get here though.
[Streak 5 Accessories] Fazziebear:
Give the guy a break.

Try one of these. Not sure how well it does with the weight but I attach mine to a camel bak when mountain biking

http://www.aquapac.net/ukstore/large-waterproof-armband-case-br-212-1122-0.html

I also use a bluetooth head phones for music so it can be sealed in. if you stick with wired head phones then you can half seal it in an still be secured

http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Mobile/UK-UK/Products/pages/CatStereo.aspx
[Streak 5 Accessories] Troute:
This might suit you I reckon http://www.amazon.co.uk/Duragadget-Waterproof-holder-mount-Mobile/dp/B003UAM2ZS

Don't know if the touch screen would work through the cover though.
[Streak 5 Accessories] cue_32:
I'm in for an Armband... would be nice for the gym.
[Streak 5 Accessories] joeclark:
that looks interesting. Any idea if they sell those in the states?
[Streak 5 Accessories] Fazziebear:
No idea, but probably. Try amazon.com, I got mine from amazon.co.uk

They do others with water proof head phones for under water use
[Streak 5 Accessories] nebukadneza:
It says "USA Store" in pretty huge letters on aquapac.net, so I would assume yes ;)
[Streak 5 Accessories] fards:
Nah, they don't look don't look remotely waterproof, and I don't have enough real estate on my recumbent bars to fit them either..

A forearm mount would be ideal for me.

I used an aquapac years ago for riding lejog, they do work, but don't offer much protection except against the elements.
[Streak 5 Accessories] royalmail:
I want an armband for my streak too!

I am looking for armband for my streak.

i am listening to audio book most of the time when I walk around inside the house.

it can free both of your hands !

Unfortunately I still couldn't find it yet...
[Streak 5 Accessories] CountryJustice:
Anyone still interested in an armband? I'm thinking of just trying to make one.

Upper arm would be way more comfortable, I think, for jogging, but how cool would it be to have your very own PIP-Boy strapped to your wrist? :p

Anyway, I think I may venture down to the LA Garment District to see if I can source some materials to whip together a prototype or two. If there's any interest (and if I'm happy with what I come up with), I'll post them here to see if anyone wants one made.