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[Droid Incredible Android Development] Div033:
SkyRaider 2.5.2 Vanilla

I just installed this and im already loving the battery life. I seem to be averaging about 10% every 45-50 minutes using the ondemand setting. Even better is using the power saver setting, which seems to be around 10% an hour! This is just initial testing and a full rundown may prove otherwise.

I was hoping this would help my feeble talk/3g time. The results above were purely using wifi. My talk/3g time seems to remain around the usual meek 5 hours even with all the underclocking and undervolting goodness.

Regardless this is still awesome. :) Thanks!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ghostrida:
10% an hour idle? Or under heavy use? If idle, that's really bad.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] alexdw369:
I just had a really strange issue with this kernel. Didn't affect me till just today....and I haven't installed or changed anything since installing this kernel on friday. I put my phone on the charger last night and went to bed. I woke up and the battery had only managed to charge to 69% on the wall charger. I changed chargers and took about an hour to get ready for work. Grabbed the phone to leave at it was at 71%. Just got home about 2 hours ago and battery was down to 24%. Tried charging. After and hour and fifteen minutes it hit 30%. Reinstalled hydra ssuv kernel and now I'm almost fully charged after about an hour. Anyone have ANY clue? I haven't seen anyone in this thread have this problem yet...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Div033:
All times are awake times. I actually have no idea what my prolonged idle times are like.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] i5aac:
Running #2 on Skyraider 2.5.2 w/ the 2.15 radio. Battery is currently at 53% after 8 hours off the charger. Moderate use (music, Bluetooth, a few calls, and of course too much xda :) ). Very pleased so far. I uninstalled setcpu just to see how it would run stock. This has to be the best kernel I have run to date. Thanx king!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] thatdudebutch:
Can I get a quick rundown on how to condition the battery for this kernel

Sent from my HTC Incredible running Sky Raider 2.5.2
[Droid Incredible Android Development] s197:
You don't need to condition lithium ion batteries.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] thatdudebutch:
I meant battery stats etc

Sent from my HTC Incredible running Sky Raider 2.5.2
[Droid Incredible Android Development] MachString:
This is true... but you need to set the battery stats every ROM.zip update.

I have had the best results doing the following.

Charge while off until you get a green light.

Then unplug/replug and charge once more until green.

Then while leaving the phone plugged in go into recovery and reset the battery stats.

Finally restart phone and unplug after it boots completely.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] thatdudebutch:
Thx

Sent from my HTC Incredible running Sky Raider 2.5.2
[Droid Incredible Android Development] IShootPixels:
This kernel rocks so far! I've gotten nearly 12 hours and I'm a fairly heavy user. This included watching a 26 minute YouTube video today as well. I'm using SetCPU though with it set at 460 when the screen is off, but its still great. I used to only get about 8 hours max in a day. Awesome!

Sent from my Unrevoked Forever Droid Incredible using the XDA app
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Nomsy79:
Donation incoming...

Thank you for this kernel...works great!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] thatdudebutch:
Can you give us a run down of how your device is set up (rom, clock, etc) and what you did to get those results?

Sent from my HTC Incredible running Sky Raider 2.5.2
[Droid Incredible Android Development] seanmcd72:
It's really not the rom, the question would be - can YOUR phone's CPU handle 1.2ghz? Many can't handle 1.15 so very few will be stable at 1.2
[Droid Incredible Android Development] oldman_58:
15 hours of liet to mid use 27% remaining

The new Kernel is a hit... up form 5-6 hours total to 15+ hours...

WooHoo.

SetCPU set at conservative, max 1.13GHz min 245MHz. beyond that not much else is changed from stock.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] derickmc:
I've been running this Kernal for 2 days now on aiccucs 4.2 Froyo vanilla ROM. Had it overclocked to 1.15Ghz and started getting FC like crazy after a couple hours. Backed it down to 1.13Ghz, conservative scaling (1.13 max, 537 min) and notice much better battery life and faster speeds. No FC after 8 hours so far. Linpack was 37 mflops (newest version) and quadrant scored in the mid 1300's. Battery is at 47% after 8 hours of regular use (Texting, couple short calls and internet browsing). This Kernal rocks!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kingklick:
Thanks guys!

Still outta town
[Droid Incredible Android Development] yomonk1:
Thanks for this. Didn't know this either. Love these forums!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayhammy:
13 hours

I've been running my Dinc pretty regularly for 13 hours using this kernel and I still have 19% left of the battery. I'm thrilled. Going to bed now. G'nite.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] r0ckstar323:
Awesome kernel I got 1502 on quadrant with skyraider 2.5.2 /sense oc'd to 1.15
[Droid Incredible Android Development] crashdogy:
Ok, so far i real like this kernel using setCPU. Benchmarks are really nice here are the 4 i did at 1190. Now the benches are high but it is not stable at that speed. I run it at 1113 and on conservative and the battery last all day and then some. This is big improvement for me, seeing i use it at work all day and didn’t even make the day. sorry if some are hard to see new to drocap2 :(
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SLOflatlander:
you dont know how to use dropcap, but your quadrant and linpack scores totally blow mine outta the water haha what is your setup?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] yomonk1:
I'm having trouble figuring this out? Any chance you could elaborate on how to get to the battery stats?

Edit: Nevermind, got it. Thanks
[Droid Incredible Android Development] crashdogy:
Setup

HTC Incredible Rooted

ClockworkMod 2.5.0.5

UnrEVOked Forever

FrankenRom B5

Radio 2.15

KiNgxKernel #2 OC 1.19 setcpu performance when running benchmarks the linpack is the old one v1.0.6 CPU benchmark v1.71 Nenamark v1.1 Quadrant v1.1.2
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hackadeehack236:
Ok installed the other linpack and in getting higher scores as expected.. but on quadrant... still averaging 1000-1100 n Dats average sometimes its lower like 900s never gotten higher than 1200 .. what am I doing different...

Running 8/1 Rom s-off,radio 2.15 with this kernel at 1.115
[Droid Incredible Android Development] DeaconBoogie:
Okay so, an observation about conservative and ondemand profiles in SetCPU...

conservative profile will gradually raise and lower the CPU clock by a certain percentage over time, theory being that less time spent at maximum the more battery is saved.

ondemand profile will, as soon as a demand threshold is reached, put the CPU at maximum speed and then back to minimum once demand is diminished.

I posit that "conservative" really doesn't do any good at all with the stock SetCPU settings. If you think about it, during large browsing sessions you're going to only really decrease the ramp-up time it takes to get to maximum speed. From there, because how it slowly decreases CPU when not needed, you're going to spend a lot of time at 50-75% of maximum clock based on its draw down time. The stock settings are 5% with a 0.2 second sample frequency (200000µs).

Meaning, going from full clock to minimum clock over 20 steps will take four seconds! So if you are browsing and then stop, your phone will spend 4 seconds ramping down from 1GHz to 245Mhz.

Compare this to "ondemand", which goes from minimum to maximum immediately, and back to minimum as soon as demand stops.

There's a lot going on under the hood in these phones insofar as background processes and such are concerned, so I can't definitively say that lots of tiny bursts to full speed is better or worse than cruising around at 50% speed. I'm just theorizing.

The obvious two issues are usability, as the 5% scaling definitely impacts UI performance on the device and makes it feel clunky until the clock get higher, and draw down time...

I am wondering if a balance could be achieved by changing the scaling factor in the conservative profile to 25% with a larger sampling frequency of around maybe 0.5 seconds, would provide a better result. The theory there being that a quick jump in clock would eliminate the UI responsiveness, allow small processes to execute quickly at low clock speed, and when running at full clock speed provide a rapid draw down time.

Thoughts?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
Can't seem to make this kernal work for me. Went back to SR Sense 2.5.2 thinking maybe it was the ROM; still no go. Reset the battery stats yesterday thinking THAT might be the issue; still no go.

Hmmmm, what to try next....
[Droid Incredible Android Development] oldman_58:
Incredible but not so smart

Seems the more I watch battery drain the more I come to realize the Phone HTC Incredible may be incredible but not so smart.

If WiFi is enable even though the phone appears to a sleep (screen-off) the phone is not sleeping.

The same holds true for Blue Tooth.

So if the fact the phone has been idle for X minutes could trigger an event that would force sleep, battery life would be much longer, it would however cause delays in re-connectivity to Blue Tooth or WiFi when waking back up, would the trade off be worth it?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kentoe:
You can edit the Wifi sleep settings in mobile networks > wifi > menu button "Advanced settings" > sleep settings

It can be set to never or something like 15 min
[Droid Incredible Android Development] oldman_58:
Done that does not seem to make much difference, battery life is much better with this kernel than previous, but I think it could potentially be better.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] texanaustinite:
I haven't seen the dramatic battery life increases that some are reporting, even with the "bump" charge.

Currently up time is 4:20 awake time is 37min and I'm down to 80%. That's with a few texts and about 5 min of web surfing.

Right now I'm running SR 2.5.2 oc'd to only 1036. Strong signal here at work.

Could it be that the web browser is just a battery hog?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] seanzer:
Are you using any live wallpaper, frequent updates of Facebook or news? Check what's hogging all he CPU and check the battery usage info.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] IShootPixels:
Also try Task Killer. It has a free version and you'd be surprised what might be running. I get tons of crap running just by simply booting up.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] texanaustinite:
Live wallpaper. I'll put up a static wallpaper to see if it helps.

Phone looses about 1% battery/hour when sleeping, due to 30min updates for weather. As soon as I start to browse, I can see the batt% start dropping.

Battery usage shows cell standby, phone idle, android system as top 3. Time without signal is @ 2%.

Display was on for 34min, internet for 4min.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] seanzer:
You're mileage may vary.. but when I used grass live wall paper.. I could get 4 hrs with about 2 hrs awake.. now I get 14 hrs with 6 awake..
[Droid Incredible Android Development] paugster:
I am getting stuck on the white HTC Increidlb escreen after flashing this kernal? Any ideas what needs to be done. I am running Sky Raider 2.5.2 sense with the 2.15 radio. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jlss:
Did you have king's kernel #1 installed previously? If so, did it work for you?

If yes it's entirely possible (likely?) that your DINC can't properly handle the 1.19 kernel #2. All of our phones have minute differences. With hydra I could only run their ocOV kernel. With king's, #1 works perfectly for me at all speed ranges up to and including top end with no tearing and no boot loops. If I go about 1.13, though, instant reboot cycle. I'd do a batt pull and wait a few, then restart. If you still get stuck pull your batt, boot into recovery, mount /sdcard and push kernel #1 and flash it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hackadeehack236:
i dont get it...

here are some captures...

this are from running

frankenRom B6

1.152MHZ

unrevoked forever

s-off

radio 2.15

i downloaded the older linpack which gave me 45-47 but i cant post scores

on greenecomputing.com

how are the guys on there reaching 40+??

also on quadrant as u can see im only getting in 900-1000 range..

ive seen alot of post on here over 1400

programs i used were

linpack 1.1.4

quadrant 1.1.2

and setcpu 2.0

on linpack im getting an average score of 38.x

but quadrant thats where there is a big drop off...im only gettin in the 900s

whats going on here?

can anyone give me advice?

again i know i can run an older version of linpack to get higher scores but ive seen scores of 47 posted u cant post on the site using and older version.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] paugster:
I didnt have #1 installed. Anyone else have this issue. I would love to get this installed and working. Thanks!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jlss:
The issues I've seen are what I mentioned - not all of our phones can run at 1.19. I know king mentioned bumping another 25mV at the 1.19 clock speed, which should help some of us. Anyway, 1.13 makes me plenty happy personally. The phone's not exactly slow and battery life is substantially improved.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] paugster:
What is the differenece between the #1 and #2 kernels. Has anyone else had this issue. I would love to get the #2 kernel working on my phone. Is there going to be an update of this at anytime?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jlss:
#1 is oc up to 1.13GHz.

#2 is oc up to 1.19GHz.

Seems minor, but it's enough to make my phone act up, and I know it has affected others as well. Both are fantastic kernels, it's just that the undervolting at the 1.19 speed doesn't work smoothly for me.

#1 is available from king's website here -> http://www.4shared.com/file/G1-KE7CY/KiNgxKernel-Inc-1-263215-Flash.html

Hope that helps.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] paugster:
I tried the #1 kernel and got the same results. Stuck at the htc Incredible white boot screen. I have even tried reflashing the Sky Raider 2.5.2 Sense ROM and then flashing the KingXKernel. It caused the same results. Any thoughts?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] texanaustinite:
Running w/o LP now. I'll post back results. Thanks.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] texanaustinite:
Here's a quick update: Just browsed for about 5min and batt went from 80% to 70% in under 5 min. Anyone else's browser drain batt that fast?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] :
Its probably becsuse: your using persormance mode and the browser takes up lots of battery anyway, even at 1 ghz
[Droid Incredible Android Development] crashdogy:
Yes can confirm this i had about 90% battery went on the browser and BAM dropped to 65% weird. useing conservative mode :confused:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] IShootPixels:
Do you charge your phone while it's OFF or leave it ON to charge? I've found that if I leave it ON that I get a false indication for the battery. It may say 100% after leaving it on over night, but within 5 minutes it's down to 80%. I typically turn it OFF and to charge it fully.

Also, a tip, turn the phone OFF and charge it until the light turns green.

Unplug it and then plug it back in (keeping the phone OFF)

Once the light turns green for the SECOND time, continue to keep it plugged in but power the phone up. Go into Recovery and reset the Battery Stats (I think it's under the Advanced menu)

After this use the phone like normal.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] crashdogy:
Yes tried that last night no good still did it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] IShootPixels:
If you bothered to reflash SR did you try a wipe first? It appears you're caught in a loop and, although I'm FAR from an expert, it might help if you did a wipe then reflashed SR and the kernel.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] IShootPixels:
@crashdogy The only noticeable difference between your setup and mine is the ROM. Is it possible that you're ROM pulls that much juice? I jst started using this kernel yesterday but when from a typical day of 8 hours before dead to over 12 yesterday and that included watching a 26 min. video on YouTube, but again I'm running the Sky Raider ROM with a theme. Otherwise you and I are running the same radio and kernel.

EDIT: Also of note, I'm running the kernel OC to 1.15 and using SetCPU ondemand. The only profile I ever set for this phone was to run at 460 when the screen is off.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] :
He is probably using performance
[Droid Incredible Android Development] texanaustinite:
Yes, been "bump" charging for a few weeks.

Since dropping to 70%, I've sent/received about 16 texts and checked battery stats a few times and it's still @ 70%. It only drops like crazy when browsing.

Only OC'd to 1036. Tried both 'conservative' and 'ondemand' modes with same results.

Awake time now 1:01... Up time 6:45... Sleeps just fine.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] crashdogy:
No doubt I’m get good battery life with this kernel. have no complaints but just had the drop happen to me today too. all so will try ondemand and see how it goes.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Staticaxe:
Took mine off charge at around 6:30 this morning (turned off, charged overnight). So, almost 6 hours in and I am at 63% with some pretty extensive web browsing while waiting at dentists office, many texts, and maybe 2 phone calls.

Not bad, I guess.

In battery usage screen from Android System Info it says:

Wi-Fi 23%

Standby 23%

Idle 18%

Calls 8%

Android System 18%

Another screen in there says Wifi has been up and active 99% of the time. Should I set that to shut off Wifi when not in use somehow?

Edit: Sorry, thought I had my sig set up. I am running SR Vanilla 2.5.2, King's Kernel 2, radio 2.15.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] texanaustinite:
What's your awake time?

I just played 'Doodle Jump" for about 5min with only a 1% drop.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] paugster:
I have tried doing a full wipe with Sy Raider 2.5.2. Then rebooting and flashing the KiNgxKernel #2. I get the same results, stuck on white htc incredible screen. Is anyone else out there having this issue? It shouldn't matter what type of battery I have, should it. I have a Seido 1750. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Staticaxe:
Is that the same as "Uptime" in System Stats or is there a different measurement for awake time? Uptime is 5 hours and 50 minutes.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] IShootPixels:
The browser does seem to use more juice than anything else I suppose, but I just browsed through Weather Underground for the last five minutes and only lost 2%. I can't give awake times or anything because I had it plugged in changing the splash screen and trying a few different ones out.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] texanaustinite:
How long are you waiting? I flashed 'aiccucs' Rom a few days ago and had a 10min wait on the HTC screen.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] texanaustinite:
Menu > setting > about phone > Battery

There should be Up time and Awake time. The difference between then is "sleep" time.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] IShootPixels:
I don't think the battery should make it loop. I don't know if it matters, but what radio are you running? Did you do a Nand before flashing the kernel (when your phone worked)?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
Test-driving it now on Adrynalyne's Third Wave ROM.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] pd240:
So far the battery life looks to be improved. I didn't get the typical drop from 100% to 90% within the first half hour off the charger. Overclocked I am getting 37 linpack scores on the 8/1 leaked 2.2. Great kernel so far!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ncwildcat:
Didn't seem to work on Frankenrom - couldn't get above 998 with setCPU, and also lost 3g. Nandroid back to 1.15 hydra #1 and all is well
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sotssax:
How?

How do I get into the settings to set overclock and other features? I'm a noob on this subject. Be gentle.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] MrDanger:
Download an app from the market that allows you to overclock.

Most people here use Setcpu. When I used to overclock.. I used OverClock Widget.

Just go to the market and download one of those two apps.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayhammy:
I tried SetCPU but it kept telling me that I wasn't rooted and that my apps weren't given root access. Very strange. I emailed the developer because I'm definitely rooted and using Skyraider's Froyo ROM!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gbenj:
I dont want to overclock, but want to try the new kernel...

Just to be sure:

1)I wont be overclocking unless I tell setCPU to do so right?

- I have it set at 998 as a default max speed, and lower max speeds depending on screen off and battery/temp conditions.

2) Is that worthwhile in this kernel? or should I just let it work on its own?

3) Will it still be worthwhile for me to use this kernel if Im just going to use it at stock speed and lower?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] MrDanger:
Hmm.. I can't help you there. Never used SetCpu.

Try OC Widget and see if that gives you the same type of error.

@gbenj: I am running this kernel w/o oc'ing and it's running fine. I am running it because I want to test it's battery saving features.

This kernel does not ONLY overclock. That is just one of it's features.

I believe...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ghostrida:
@kingklick

What is your github username? You linked to the main site.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gbenj:
k cool, thanks.

So are there any other modifications we should make to help with the battery saving?

Thats what I'm interested in also.

And to see if theres any chance this kernel fixes the charging problem that has shown up since froyo came along.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] borgey420:
yeah, i will stick with hydra...........nothing against the OP, but i will wait it out until these are proven to be stable. it's just hard to flash a kernel onto my phone that someone made who does not have the phone themselves. but, i hope they are good & stable because we need more choices in the kernel section.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] luniz7:
Not working on cm6 rc3

Boots but then the touchscreen is not functional

Also I'm not seeing your incredible kernel source on github either

http://github.com/kingklick
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ihyln:
Been using this for several hours now and the battery life is a HUGE improvement. I'm very happy with the phone now!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Gimpeh:
Is the highmem hack not applicable on the Incredible?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] luniz7:
Vm Heap size?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] aaronjb:
Same experience here. Can't access the touch screen at boot, though processes are running.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sotssax:
Thanks, I'll give it a try!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kentoe:
You guy's should read a little more before using something like this...

CM6 RC3 is not a sense rom, it is the most vanilla rom we have available.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] luniz7:
Doh....i overlooked sense, oops

And I know what I'm doing, I can build kernels as well.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] paugster:
Maybe I am not waiting long enough. How long are you supposed to wait on the white screen?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] :
You shouldnt wait more.than 15-30 sec on that screen
[Droid Incredible Android Development] texanaustinite:
2% in 5 min. I used to get that browsing on my Eris running 2.2.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Staticaxe:
Ah! Thanks...

Awake time is 2 hours. Up time is 6 hours.