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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] firestrm:
I only received my Kaiser ( well, TytnII here) on monday. Ive gone through about half this subforum already :p Every other build I've tried managed to go fine until I put my sim in... then it went south from there....

Will see how it goes with this build once Ive tweaked as per your guide....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Notice your using radio 1.70, not sure about SA, but it is possible that you may get on better with 1.65 series, ( European users certainly do better on this radio), really depends what the actual issue is with the sim card?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] firestrm:
Hmmm, maybe you're onto something. I'll give the 1.65 you are running a try...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Well if it's a lot of 'no service' problems, then that may sort it, did for me :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] yatsankov:
Hi zenity!

What is wrong with installing Haret?

Once you select quit, and android continue to boot, system hangs and nothing happens!

Any ideas?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Hmm, I'll look into that, but remember running from haret is slower, and the initial boot does take quite some time, it will appear to hang even on nand for a few minutes before continuing to load, if it does not reach the bootanimation within 5 minutes, then something may be wrong with the haret files, I'll flash WM and check that.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] yatsankov:
ok

Just for your information - once pressed quit, I wait more than 10 minutes!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Just reflashed to WM, installed, it does take a lot longer than nand, quit, it does appear to hang, but finally went to bootanimation, and is running now, time is under 30 minutes, and that includes the WM reflash, so there are a few things to check.

WM version, must be 6.1 minimum, anything lower and you will get problems, guaranteed.

Try another SD card, remember for haret you need 2Gb minimum, it must be freshly formatted as Fat32, you really will need a lot of free space on the SD, (it is possible on a 1GB, but it will be really tight, and things may fail if there are bad blocks).

Remember if you are copying files to SD through activesync you must remove the usb cable safely, same goes for SD card adaptor,

always

use safe removal, as not doing this can leave data unwritten, ( safe removal writes any cached data before telling you it is safe to remove).

It is possible that the download is corrupt, you may want to redownload just to be certain, but try reinstalling everything from scratch first.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mnjm9b:
I have been having problems with anything downloaded from rapidshare lately. all the androidinstall.tgz are unable to open. giving this error...

gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--crc error
tar: Child returned status 1
tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors

I though this was just my setup but if others are having install problems this may be

a file curruption issue. try re-downloading and see if you can open the androidinstall.tgz

this has been an issue with other builds as well as of lately.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Michga:
please, make some screens :-)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] firestrm:
It wasn't no service, it was just plain locking up only while using the data connection. Wifi works 100% with no lockup. Will try it with the current radio then the new radio and give you soem feedback here. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] n2rjt:
A recent kernel will give better status of your battery. Look in Kaiser kernel thread.

The new version guesses at your battery capacity on first boot after inserting the battery. As Zenity says, it gets better over time, but now it's better on the first boot than it used to be. At least for Polaris and Kaiser, such as your TyTN II.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] berk_cglr:
my keyboard backlight is not workin i cant see my internal keyboard in night how can i fix that because very hard touch scrren type with motorcycle gloves :p
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] n2rjt:
Latest l1q1d kernel has good backlight at night. I am typing in the dark now with it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] berk_cglr:
can u send me a link because i cant find :S
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] n2rjt:
Recent kernel builds are here.

It should have improved backlight for kaiser, and a reasonably good battery meter.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] berk_cglr:
thanks man im tryng 1 hours later but wont working wifi in liqid kernels :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] berk_cglr:
man how can i do it i dont understand and i cant find

data/data/com.navngo.igo.javaclient/data.gro

wheres that on my phone :( i need that please help
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] WarByte:
If you are using root explorer with the default settings, when you first open it, the first data folder should be there, then go into another data folder. This second data folder contains directories that your installed apps use so if you cannot find com.navngo.igo.javaclient is because whatever app you are talking about is not installed. If you do find it, then go into it and put your file there :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Ducamau:
With recent kernels, WIFI does not startup.

How can I fix this !?

thz
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Not actually tried newer kernels on this particular build, I still recommend the included kernel as I find it provides maximum compatibility with this build.

I have not really been keeping current on the newer kernels, but I am aware that there are some wifi issues, you may want to read through the recent kernel threads for more info on that.

I may upgrade the kernel for this build in the near future, and will provide any updates at the same time, provided I am happy that doing so will not introduce any new problems :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vanhyfte.johnny:
Firstly I would like to thank everybody who made this possible. You guys are the best!

After searching the forum for a couple of days I got my Tytn II flashed with Android but after installing some apps my memory was full. So I did it again in a different way. I made an new nbh file in wich al the nand of the device was used for the system. Upon installation I selected system on nand and data.img on memory card. Now I still have 180MB left after installing a bunch of apps! I think that flashing this way is a very good way for having lots of space for apps.

Oh, and I also overclocked the processor to 450MHz wich I find a good compromise between battery saving and a bit of extra speed. The overclocking is also done in the nbh file btw.

Greets to all from here in Belgium and lots of Android fun on your Winmob devices!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Not sure why you would make the system partition larger, since after install it does not change, since apps are installed to the Data partition, but if you installed Data to SD then it won't really matter much, I usually set Sytem to about 83Mb so that I have the maximum available space on Data for apps, however If you do use a lot of apps then Data on SD is the best way.

Glad to see that you did not go crazy on overclock, so many do, and wonder why they have a hot Kaiser and no battery life :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vanhyfte.johnny:
Since the rest of the nand would be doing nothing anyway I thought it would be better to just let the system partition take the whole part. I know it's not needed but since I had the space free and bad sectors can become a problem in nand with a bit of age I just took the whole for the system.

Battery life is great btw. I'm getting a full day of standby at 450MHz with pretty heavy use. My Kaiser only gets mildly warm under heavy use under the 'Q' of the keypad. I'm pretty happy with the way everything works right now and think I'll leave it this way and start learning how to use android in real life.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] nceguy:
Restarting

Zenity…thanks for all the information. I have flashed the Tilt. Followed all the instructions. I get the animated gui….then the Android screen comes up where it says Touch to begin…as soon as I touch the screen, it resets the phone. I did notice that there is an x where the battery symbol is on the upper right of the screen.

My battery is fine and fully charged as it was showing so in WM right before I flashed it. Any ideas or suggestions?

Thanks bro.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Neo2SHYAlien:
Boys good tutorial all work fine thanks for it :) I sold my hermes and bay kaiser and i love it. Haret is my prefer method i like to have dual boot option
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Actually it sounds like a bad install, I'd try reinstalling to begin with, and have a look at the bootlog.txt and dmesg files that android saves to SD card, there will be errors there, always are, but there may be something in the last part of dmesg.

Also the way WM and android handles battery is different, with WM, as soon as the battery stops accepting a charge, WM assumes it is fully charged, so a charged battery in WM is not always a reliable indication of battery health.

One way to get past this if it is a dying battery, is to boot, and once you get the bootanimation screen, plug in the charger, this should supply enough to get past the initial startup.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] nytmaer:
Installed but still Haret still hanging up.

I've installed everything per instructions but when I run HARET, it gets to the Android at the bottom of the screen and then gets hung up. It gives me an Unexpected Timer Interupt message.

It looks like this. A N D R O I D [ 14.840034] Unexpected Timer interrupt.

I'm running (ROM Version 3.57.502.2 WWE)

Haret sits there after 20+ minutes and doesn't go any further. Can anyone offer assistance on this matter.

Update: Now it says [28.890059] RTC Update.

still waiting for any forward progress.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Not certain what wm version that is, if it not 6.1 it will give issues, it is also possible that android is not installed properly, which occasionally happens, try booting to installer menu and reinstalling.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tubaron:
Kaisimg.nbh

I can't get past the first screen. It says:

Press power button to start update image

Press action button to cancel update image

I have a Kais100. Whats the power button?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] n2rjt:
Right side near the top of the screen.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] viewedit:
I am on Vodafone Live, This is the only android Rom which connected and synced with google service, I had real time push email/gtalk going.

sadly because of battery issues I had to go back to win, but now that this week end I reinstalled it, I am unable to get the sync to google services.

What can be the reason, bec I am very experienced in Rom flashing and have done everything exactly like last time.

I had flashed nand
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
As there have been no changes to Polymod 2.1D then it can only be the Kernel, not sure if you are using a newer Kernel or if you used the one I packaged with the download.

You can try editing and reflashing the Custom kernel included in the download, just to check if it syncs with google.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] viewedit:
Hi,

I used ur packaged, I haven't modified or changed anything from ur package.

I spent 3 days again to get back the sync to google and gtalk and email services. It never happened.

what I do remember is I did fiddle around the tethering app in ur rom, But I doubt that has anyway helped the connection, bec I dont know how to Make tunnel work.

I have given up trying, Incase you come across the solution pls post it on ur page without fail.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] harunguclu:
I also have a flu screen how can ı change resolution? is it something can be done after installing, and where in settings, or how pls help :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Changing resolution is best done by editing the kaisimg.nbh file using atools, and reflashing, this does not require reinstalling of the build, just the nbh.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dark_prince:
I dont have Wifi Working with your provided kernel in "Final.zip" file.

My Device is KAIS130

Panel Type 1

and keyboard type is 0

Resolution: 240x320

Please if you can, provide a Wifi compatible kernel (all the ones on Android on HTC project are 2.6.25)

If there is an update, please do elaborate the process for patching. (Especially if I have to do that right after installing the nbh or after I install Android on NAND ?)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] l1q1d:
Download the lastest nbh and use this update.

Please next time follow all the steps in atools guide.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ccyg8774:
Still can't make the camera to work.

I used a wrong kernel at first, the Bluetooth, wifi and camera do not work.

Then I used the attached kernel, Bluetooth and wifi works perfectly, but camera still do not work. Only thing the camera can see is purple and green horizontal strips in camera window.

Edit: The camera is now working with l1q1d's updating! Thank you!

However, for some strange reason, the extension of the file became .gz after downloading, need to be changed to .tgz manually to make the update to work.

This may be a stupid question, but is this update going to work on other build to fix the camera problem?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tiagoclc:
Maybe...

Try to do the first sync under wifi connection.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mrcreativity:
Thanks for all the hard work you've put in.

I've never tried flashing a ROM on my kaiser, i've always used haret.

One problem i'm experiencing this the 2.1d release over the 2.1g release is that the former is quite sluggish, and after a couple of minutes of use, the add widget/shortcut menu on the home screen, refuses to scroll.

I've had no problems with the camera and the battery life is just ok.

Thanks for the hard work once again.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ethibault:
hello I have polymod 2.1D build running with Haret on a class 6 micro SD in a tytnII WM 6.1 phone.

The camera is not working as indicated.

I'd be inteterested to get it just for QR codes or to download apps, do you think I could apply that update to find back the camera ?

How do you update ?

Do you put the file on the SD and you're done ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ethibault:
camera on polymod 2.1 D

up please for the camera on polymod 2.1 D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dark_prince:
One solution,

Get Radio Version 1.65 or Higher
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] gfucka:
Hi. I have a kaiser and I dont want more use Windows Mobile but I want use Android. I want make a NAND install but I have a question. If I install this Polymod 2.1D with NAND does all works fine?? The wifi, gps, call, 3g, camera, bluethoot ecc... works????

Please anser me.

Thank you.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] gfucka:
Why nobody answer me????? :confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dark_prince:
They will work, but I recommend getting froyo since Froyo is alot better than eclair in performance :)

Have you got a valid kernel nbh file? If not get a suitable kernel for NAND flashing and you must know the panel type of your device.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] gfucka:
How I can know the panel type?? And where I find the nbh??

Thank you.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mfrankly:
Using this build for a year now...

So,

I have a tilt from the US that I have been using in Germany for over a year now. All I can say is that it has it's ups and downs. I have been using this port since maybe 2 or 3 builds ago and believe me, it's gotten much better. Everything works except maybe tethering to my computer via bluetooth to surf the net via the cell network (though I haven't tried to make it happen).

I do have some problems though.

It will lock up after a month or so of usage and not boot again. Almost like data gets corrupted and the system can't load anymore. It will just lock up on the boot screen for android and restart the whole process. I just reflash the nand (i am using nand by the way) and it will be all good for another month. I think my phone has a bad block of nand maybe though because it's old and went through a lot.

I find that I have to flash it a couple times though if everything isn't working. And I think it damages my SD card when it crashes and I have to reformat that too.

I use titanium backup to save all my settings now so i can flash and be running again in minutes. apps get saved with it so you dont need to connect to wifi and redownload everything you like.

Thanks to all that made this possible so I can get a phone later that is better then what is available to me now. Android is the best for sure.

Any questions just PM me. I have seen just about everything go wrong with these builds so I could walk you through things.

Golden Rule - if it doesnt work... reflash and it prolly will.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mfrankly:
you need the nbh editor. look in the first part of this thread (it talks about it there) and search for it on the internet.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] VladbIka:
Hello bro's!

Thank for this great manual!

But to install this Polymod I had to use .nbh from http://ponack.net/poly/BT_Update/index.php :confused:

Again thank Poly and Zenity for their work!!! ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] firestrm:
Well 10 min in, no issues.... even the data connection works on internet browsing. however market doesnt pick up the data connection... will have to see why not.

*edit* locked up searching for network, reset using stylus. no problems now.... WEIRD

*edit2* phone likes to hang after the display goes off, or I just get a white screen... im not able to turn the display back on using the end or the power button.... Is there a key map for the Kaiser?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
@vladblka, not sure why you would have to use another NBH, the one included should be fine, however it is set as panel2, and 'normal' qwerty keyboard, using an older NBH you may find that some things do not work properly, (GPS will probably have issues, as may cell location and BT).

@firestrm: 'Sleep of death' if you are on panel 2, switch to panel 3, or the other way around.

Although there appears to be no visual difference between these panel types, the way they handle sleep is different.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] noside12123:
Ok, so I used to use Vaniljeclair and I wanted to try this out, so I did. And i really like it. Its alot faster. But one thing, There is less data space free. In Vaniljeclair On first use it had about 80MB Of space for apps. This build has only 50-60MB. I was wondering if there was a way to increase data space . Like does the actual system make full use of the system partition on nand??? Cause I probably could make it smaller using Loserskaters NBH Editor and decrease space for system and increase data on nand. Thankss!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] VladbIka:
emm... Zenity... I'll make photo wthat happens with my Kaiser with your .nbh, and tomorrow I'll ask you how to fix it :rolleyes:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
If you open terminal, then type 'df' then you can see how much free space there is in each partition, there is about 26Mb of free space on /system, so yes, you could edit the nbh to reallocate the space to /data. :) (edit decided to actually try this, took system down to 90Mb first of all, reflashed, rebooted, works fine, took it down to 80, had to reinstall, since I may have gone a little too far, but it's working so far, however I would suggest 82Mb as a more realistic figure).

@vladblka, sounds like you might have a panel type issue, if so then you too could edit the nbh using loserskaters nbh editor, just have to set it to the correct panel type, save and reflash :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] firestrm:
Thanks, that worked :)

So far no other major issues found, even my exchange sync works 100% :cool:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] yatsankov:
hello zenity!

Finally I found where is my problem! All the files put them in a folder "andboot" and voila!

Greetings!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] VladbIka:
Zenity, sorry for my Nooby, where can i see what is my panel type? :confused:

I have Kais130 when i put out my battery, then up to battery i have

"36H00564-00M" and "181007(RC01)/EU"

That's all! :rolleyes:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] VladbIka:
I think i have panel type 1 because it's best for my kaiser :) Thank you very very much!!! ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] firestrm:
Turned out I have a panel 3, always thought it was a panel 2. I tried every panel from 1 then 2 then 3.

Each one worked fine-ish, till I tried 3.... almost crystal clear now
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
There is no way to tell which panel type you actually have, it's not specific to a certain model or anything like that, as far as I know from my own electronics and manufacturing background, most manufacturers will purchase components as they need them, from whichever supplier that can supply them at the right time, at the right cost, which is why we have 3 types in use on kaiser, and why there seems to be no pattern of which type is fitted.

In short, the only way to tell is experimenting, you just have to try each setting until you find the correct one, this is easier in Haret installs, but reflashing the nbh for nand installs does not affect the installed system anyway, so it's just an inconvenience more than anything else :).

With panel 1, it's easiest, panel 2 and 3 settings make the display look wrong, with panel 2 and 3 the difference is not as easy to spot, both look right, but have different sleep behaviour, which is what caused Firestrm's issue.

Anyway, glad you got it sorted out, now you know which panel type you have, installing other nbh's or builds should be a lot easier :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] firestrm:
Which has made me breathe a sigh if relief all my issues are fixed now... smooth sailing... :D

zenity, YGPM btw
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] sirrkitt:
Quick question! If I'm using launcherPro, do I still want to check "keep launcher in memory" under Spare Parts, or does that only apply to the default launcher app?

Also, I'm just wondering, but it seems that from time to time on most other builds, my device will go to sleep but then no button will wake the device up and I have to reset it or take out the battery and upon reboot I get a bunch of FC's for System and Launcher and GAPPS, etc.. I'm pretty sure I'm on panel 3, though, because when I unlock/wake on a panel 2 I get snow for a few seconds before the device wakes up and unlocks, whereas on panel 3, I don't get that issue.