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[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
I take it you have downloaded feeds using rss hub first (currently the tab doesn't do any downloads of the feeds). Make sure you have Chxxx.xml files in the ChannelData directory.

Unfortunately, the debug file didn't show anything useful (I think I clear it too often), try to capture it just after trying to load the channel list, it'll tell me if it read it correct and how many items it found.

Also have a check in the HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\Manila registry and see what entries you get for RSSFeed. you should have lots of numbered items.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] zi-to:
It looks like a problem with my feed. I tried to clear all entries and then I selected some predetermined feed and it works:). If I add my feed with some predetermined one it works too, only if I keep just my feed itself, it is not working...

Thank you for helping, now I know how It works:)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
If the feed works in RSShub, then can you post the link or pm me the link for it, as I would like to support all feeds.

I hope to re-write the xml processing part at some point anyway, as I am learning new ways to do it, the current implementation was written to decode my own feeds rather than taking a top level view and working out the RSS format (this was the best approach since I needed to test to see if the whole thing was going to work 1st!).

Glad it is working.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] zjxpot:
Manila 1921

Hi, I am not sure if this was asked before, but I would like to know if this would work on Manila 1921, I am currently using your Facebook Tab and I had to install your Patch for it to work.

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
I don't think it will at the moment (still have some bits left in from the facebook tab) but when it is removed it should be ok. Although if you try and find it does work then let me know!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mike2nl:
This feeds are working:

http://xdaforums.com/external.php?type=RSS2

http://www.homeserverland.com/b/mainfeed.aspx?Type=BlogsOnly

http://xdaforums.com/external.php?type=RSS1&forumids=523&lastpost=1
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Sorry things have been quiet here for a bit, since I have been working on the tab control app.

However, don't worry, it is allowing me time to consider some design ideas for this tab (got some great (I hope) but ambitious ideas).

Plus I've been trying out different ways to access the xml data (so hopefully better RSS reading in future) and also testing writing to xml files (which I've avoided so far).

I've still got a lot to finish off before the next release, but so far managing to resolve most the challenges I'm facing to enable later development. I expect I'll do another release before everything I have in mind is done, but obviously it will need to be stable.

An interesting idea...

http://www.changedetection.com/

When you register you can set up sites to monitor and when they change it will email you, but you can also set up an RSS feed...

Yet to work out how to make it useful for threads on xda, but it has potential!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] illi:
I successfully cooked this app into my ROM. On the main screen, nothing responded on clicking the Menu. The List worked. So does other soft keys in the sub-menu.

This is what I did to cook it in:

- incorporated the contents of 26948339_manila file

- renamed the Windows folder in the rsstab-4427.zip to Manila_RSS_Tab 1.0

- copied the \Storage Card\Program Files\RSS Hub to my SDCard

- copied the \Program Files\RSSUtil to \Program Files - this is done using RUNCC after ROM flash

To update Channels, I have to go to the RSS on my home screen.

My Sense is:

- Manila_Core 2.5.20191914

- Manila_Home 2.5.20184026

EXT is:

RSSHub 2.1.2.1117.01

Hope this little input helps in further development.

BTW I am just a rookie cook:p
[Windows Mobile Software Development] User_99:
Nice app!

One small problem. We use some special letters in German - like ö, ä, ü, ß - and these are not shown correctly in RSSTab. See pictures. Also look at xml-file with correct feed. RSS-app shows the feed correctly...

UPDATE: Found s similar thread in the past. Should be the same problem with encoding in ISO-8859-1.

Here's a link for testing: www.oeamtc.at/feeds/verkehr/tirol
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
My guess is the RSSfeed_page.xml file is not being read, make sure it is in the ManilaXml folder of windows (this is the file which contains the defines for the menu). You can try putting it directly in the windows directory too, I've seen that done before although never checked the effect.

At the moment the feeds are treated as ReadOnly, so no updates, no read/unread etc.

The more input and reports I get back the better, only one device, one tester and one developer otherwise, means it'll work for me very nicely thank you but unlikely to be much good for anyone else.

BTW I'm a rookie dev :D

Thank you. You are right, it does sound like a similar issue, if so the fix is ready in my development build and should make it to the next release. Unfortunately encoding is a difficult one to deal with, since my device doesn't always show the chars when other devices do, but will keep at it until it works.

Hopefully will get back to that next week and see what I can build for a release.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] User_99:
That sounds great! Will test the new versions and report back. Keep up you're good work...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] User_99:
I used these nice tab the last days and I liked thses great piece of sw :D

BTW, need some help in translation. Please see pictures above. Is it possbile to translate these strings, too? I would do it but didn't find the right places...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Have a little look in post #7, your needs should be covered there!

You just need to work out what your language code is, and then look up your related language file, edit and post. :D

Note this file covers the language translations for both the sense part and the RSSutil.exe part too.

Any problems, let us know!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] User_99:
Thx, I know that, but - in my case [de-de --> 66FAC0B6_manila]-file has not the needed strings to change all shown in my pictures in thread above.

Compared de-de --> 66FAC0B6_manila with en-us --> 5D3CA1C8_manila is ok and no lines are missing in de-de.

So do I miss something or how can I translate the other strings?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
That file is translated:

<trans-unit id="IDS_FEED_ITEM_DETAILS">

<source>({0} Posts, {1} New)</source>

</trans-unit>

Becomes:

<trans-unit id="IDS_FEED_ITEM_DETAILS">

<source>({0} Insgesamt, {1} Neue)</source>

</trans-unit>

I suspect your devices locale is not de-de...note the untranslated language files will also display english text.

The next version will show your current locale and also allow selection of the language file, independent of your device locale (just the same as the fbtab).

In fact, if you have the fbtab, it'll display what locale your device is set to! :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] User_99:
locale here is de-at. So know I've learned somethink new :p

Wil try to update my file to correct localisation and report back...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
de-at, not seen that in sense before, I would guess it is using a translation file which is on the list, but which one!

If you can't work out which one, the next update should have the completed settings page (which I'm working on at the moment).
[Windows Mobile Software Development] User_99:
Locale here is German (Austria). Normally all translations works fine with this region setting, unfortunately not for RSS feed.

Tried to change in 66FAC0B6_manila <xliff version="1.0" lang="de-at"> made a reboot, but still some lines are in english. Only if I change the regional settings to German (Germany) it is better, but not all strings are in German. See pictures:

Miss a string for "Please Donate!" All in Debug page and sometimes "Back", "Exit" and "Run" is still shown.

But if you rewrite the settings page, maybe I can set the translation file directly without any troubles in the future. :D

BTW, here a small update of the German translation file. (Made only some small corrections) - All credits and thanks to SteveP86
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
The translation file for sense is tied to the filename as well as the code within the xml type code, so it wouldn't work like that unfortunately. I'm not sure if sense will support that particular code or another one is set. Do you have the facebook tab, if so it'll tell you the code it is using for sense.

Debug page does not use the translation file, since it is not intended for normal use (should be able to do everything via the tab and settings page). It's main purpose is to allow easy testing using visual studio (when you debug it just runs the exe directly, so easier to have a page which simulates the various command-line options).

The "Please Donate!" string is fixed in the code, as you can guess otherwise you could simply remove it with a blank translation (I hope that is reasonable)...I'll post more details about this with the next release, as I'm yet to finalise this aspect.

I've been working on the settings pages over the weekend, that aspect is already completed, still have some other bits to complete and more experimental work to do, but progress is being made.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] User_99:
I only use RSS tab - no FB tab, sorry:D

"Please Donate!" is not a big deal, I'm only a perfectionist :p

Will test your new version if it's available. Thx for your support and effort...:)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Still working on a number of things at the moment, settings page is just about finished though, but will finish off some of the new features I'm working on, so release will be a while yet, depending on what time I find to work on it.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] User_99:
That sounds great! :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Currently trying to deal with events within the webbrowse control, what a total nightmare! I've found 101 different ways to not do what I want...really don't like MS and .net today.

Ok, I've just about implemented my own gesture commands from scratch for the web browser control...what a pain! It will probably need lots of tuning but appears to be functional-ish.

UPDATE-08Dec:

:D OK! Good news, managed to make the changes I wanted for the web-browser...it appears to be working nicely so far! :D

There is also room for some unique features hopefully.

Still PLENTY more to do, but another thing on my list I can tick off! :D

Hopefully the next update will earn the "Please Donate!" text....

UPDATE-09Dec:

The good and the bad...the additions I added to the web browse control (the rss feed item viewer) are working quite well, definitely makes browsing through the whole feed of items a breeze. The bad is the mod has messed up the menu items on that view, so still a little work needed there (fixed!). Also will need to tweak the gesture detection a little, but the concept so far seems good. Hopefully I can wrap that section up soon and move on to the next feature.

Attached screens...note ## & IDS are markers for me to add to translation list, A versions are with Advanced Controls enabled.

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Facebook status feed....could turn out to be useful for some!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=9400295#post9400295

Also http://page2rss.com/ has potential to generate useful some custom feeds.

UPDATE-10Dec:

Thought I'd keep updating this post (saves annoying people by pushing the thread up all the time)

Implemented some more stuff last night. Finished off the item view for now, and working on the next feature I had planned, bit more work to do on the exe side and then I need to jump back into editing sense again to put in the menu options for it. Unfortunately, it breaks the solution I put in for the encoding problems, so will need to work around that too. No spoiler for this feature though, since like the others it is experimental so can't promise it'll make it fully formed into the next release.

Realistically though, hope to have some kind of beta towards the end of next week, as I would really like to have some thing ready before christmas! It will be a rough beta though, as I've been trying several different ideas all at once so expect lots of lose ends which need sorting out.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
In fact, the current development build is quite stable, so I shall tidy it up and release it soon!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] User_99:
I only can write: WOW! :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Captain_Throwback:
Looks great!

I can't wait to see the new build!

Question: Will you be creating a setup.dll I can import into the CAB & use the your SenseUtil.exe to automatically update the Tab Control file? That will make the CAB complete, and very easy for me to update.

P.S. You can bump this thread with an update anytime - It won't bother me. I only know you've updated if you make a new post :).
[Windows Mobile Software Development] nesson:
haha!! good joy !!!masterpiece!!!!thx a lot!!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Not tried making a setup dll, will need to read up on that link and work out what to do.

Still got some sense work to do still hopefully that will be ok.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mike2nl:
uhh, at this time i get burning eyes when i read the last 5 posts. Meltwater, so as every time your next masterpiece will be better every release. Thank you, i can't wait for it?

About translation to nl-nl. You need help?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Next release will only be a beta (still got bits I'm working on - but stuff which shouldn't break things hopefully), so new translations can be done then. Hopefully will crack on with it after the weekend.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] bobzero:
Slightly off topic, can someone please tell me what is required to get keyword notifications to show up in the taskbar? Are there other dependencies than the RSS package itself?

I installed this cab from captain throwback:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=8851203&postcount=13
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Captain_Throwback:
I am using that same CAB (of course), and I do get the notification on my device (Tilt 2).

You just have to make sure the notification is set in two places: in the RSS Hub, and in the "Sounds & Notifications" Control Panel applet.

See attached screenshots :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
I've not used them before, so not considered them in the tab so far. Perhaps will set a few up so I can work out how best to handle them within the tab too.

Not quite there yet with my dev build, the simple sense change as always is proving less simple (but perseverance is key here). At least my SenseUtil app helps with the testing.

Unfortunately, to try to get this build out before christmas (which I'd like to do) it'll only have about 25% of what I was working on active and about 10% of my wish list done!

As it is probably for everyone, busy times!

UPDATE: Humm, ok, just wasted a few hours of trying to get sense to work since I was compiling the files in a different directory by mistake! How annoying!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Right, I've given up on the sense changes for now, they are just not happening.

This means, I will start tying things up ready for release soon!

Not too far off now, just having some issues with generating a Release version of the exe, so I'm rebuilding the project piece by piece. Fingers crossed that will do the trick!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Really hope to get this released tomorrow.

If I can get my build issues sorted out today, I can test it tonight and tomorrow and upload!

The idea is this will be a beta release, hopefully I can update and enable the release with some of the newer features in the next few iterations.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Bad news, still having difficulty getting the release build to work (issues with .net) I've re-installed my .net and my old versions build ok, but there is still a problem with the latest dev build.

Will post again when I make some progress!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Captain_Throwback:
Take your time. I'm sure you're busy. I also know you have high standards for your work, and we wouldn't want you to release something below your standards. We all appreciate your hard work on this project!! :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] eboelzner:
SenseSDK guy here...

Let me know what you are having issues with... I can help if you would like...

Ed
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Ok, no luck with resolving the issue so taking a different tack and the release version is now running ok.

Beginning testing out of the current build and will get an initial beta out soon.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Elodie:
Xmas is coming sooner this year !:)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] _zeke_:
Has anyone managed to install RSS Tab on HD mini? I'm not able to see the tab, probably because the 26948339_manila file cannot be overwritten, even with Total Commander...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Try using my sense util in my signature, that should do it easy. The problem you are having is probably not disabling sense before trying to edit the file.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] bobzero:
Is there a way to make rss hub display more than the last 20 updates?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Do you mean the home page plug-in or the feeds themselves?

If you mean the feeds themselves then it is down to the individual rss feeds, some will simply add new items to the feed list (i.e. the rss file gets bigger each time), others will generate feeds with old items removed. The RSSHub does not save any items which are removed from this list (not sure what happens if you've downloaded a podcast though, as this would make you lose your link to it...).

If you specifically mean podcasts, then there is an extra setting for the channel which sets how many to keep within RSSHub.

I do plan to have a feature where you can set a feed or item to be saved (so it does not get removed even if it is removed from the rss feed itself), obviously this would then allow you to tag items you plan to read later but still update with the latest, without losing things you've not read (it's something which annoys me with a lot of readers). It is planned but other features I'm planning should help with implementing this after they are done (it's also quite a complicated one since you have to track items being added and removed etc before replacing the feed file, it might mean creating a separate data store from the RSSHub to avoid losing items, which creates a whole host of new issues).
[Windows Mobile Software Development] _zeke_:
Of course I've disabled sense before overwriting the configuration file. Anyway, it looks like the file got overwritten from the beginning (your Sense Util app is showing the RSS page in the "Tabs(Loaded)" list) but I'm not able to actually see the tab.

I've followed the exact install procedure found in 4th post of current thread.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Forthcoming release...

"Pre-Beta Samper/Taster"

This initial build should be considered a development version and work in progress, I intend to make several updates to it before it can be considered a proper release as several sections are not quite finished, however it should be quite usable.

New features:

1. Lauc Theme file [759E7B43_manila] for font colour changes

2. Settings Pages:

Tab Settings:

a. Fixed header position [loading feedback not completed yet, plus highlight selection not completed yet]

b. Item View Mode Selection - allows the different methods to be tried (OpenNetCF is the latest one)

c. Selection of stylesheet for item view

File Path Settings:

a. Register the app's location with the registry

b. Define/Select the app shortcut

Advanced:

a. Reset the tab data (should clear out the RSSFeed registry values, leaving only settings behind, plus should then reload the channel data)

b. Advanced settings (as the FbTab, allows the harder options to be shown)

c. Language file selection.

d. Donation Code Function

3. Highlight of unread items

4. OpenNetCF Browser - with my own custom gesture support (needs fine tuning but the principle is swip left/right to go to next or previous item - eventually will define the direction via a user setting, up/down will do nothing at the moment, there is also a special diagonal gesture which will toggle the fit to screen mode - again possible to detect each of the 4 diagonal directions). It's experimental, but is usable.

There are several features which are almost ready to be enabled, just needing some additional work to complete. But it will help a lot to iron out any other issues before I introduce the more risky features.

Clearly, over the holiday period, I am not sure as and when I can work on the project so this is why I've produced this "Pre-Beta Samper/Taster".
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Ok, either post your tab control file on here or try removing and readding using the senseutil. I suspect there is some small is issue somewhere in the file (sense is very fussy, sometimes reinitialising without changing anything fixes things).
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
(22ndNov2010) PreRelease Beta2.0

"Pre-Beta Samper/Taster"

:eek: IS OUT! Enjoy! :eek:

http://rsstab.codeplex.com/SourceControl/list/changesets

Please let me know as soon as possible to confirm it is working/not working.

Any questions, then please ask.

:D Happy Christmas everyone!!!! :D

PS: People on my Donations/Testing list (post#1) PM me and I will send you donation codes!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] _zeke_:
Yeah, that "Full Reset Sense" option did the work, now the RSS tab is showing, but the icons are missplaced and oversized. Probably this icon set is working better on VGA displays. I'm using HVGA (480x380)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Ah...there is similar problems with the FbTab, I've not got a HVGA device to test this on but the base files I've been using apparently don't have HVGA support built in. I'm developing on WVGA, so you can understand it's quite different.

Unfortunately, this will be very difficult to fix without a device. Can you take some screenshots, perhaps we can try to modify the default icon sizes and locations directly in the mode9 file, it may make it usable by having HVGA versions of those files (but I'd expect some small issues elsewhere too).

It may help if you can post your version of 46a0aed8_manila (this is the people tab's version of the file).
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Captain_Throwback:
Thanks for this, meltwater. the CAB has been updated, and attached to the original CAB install post (which you've already linked on the first page). I've updated the install instructions to point to your SenseUtil for ease of Tab Control updating, until we can get the setup.dll worked out. Quick Question - Does SenseUtil offer "Full Reset Sense" as a command line option as well? That would allow for a cleaner install/uninstall process. Also wondering if any of the command line options would be appropriate for uninstallation of any tab (not just a specific one).
[Windows Mobile Software Development] _zeke_:
Thank you!