yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[EVO 4G Android Development] mitchellvii:
This has been my issue with this thread all along. The very fact that such a "bounty" thread exists simply could not be more of a clear violation of RULE #5 of these forums. To me, this strikes at the very core of what xda-developers is. The fact that certain persons in this thread have taken to actually badgering people to "pay up" on their donations even though no working wimax has been presented to the public at large is, in my opinion, obscene.

People, like myself, who have questioned the propriety of such a thread have been sworn at and told to "shut the f*ck up!" and been called a "dou*chbag". Whereas, I have not called anyone names nor used profanity at all.

So, in conclusion, the thread itself is a complete violation of xda-developers policy. The main protagonists of the thread are flaming "non-believers" and using profanity to do so - another violation of forum policy.

There is really nothing about this entire thread that is NOT a violation of forum policy, and yet it still exists. Other threads have been summarily shut down for far, far, far, far and far again less.

Mods, if you are reading this and you have any consideration for your own rules at all, you should shut this thread down immediately. Your credibility is at stake. Shinzul and Toast, if you guys have any credibility, you should refuse payment of any of this "bounty" money. It is a violation of the very spirit if AOSP.

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** Let's see. How about I start a thread titled: "Donations for WIMAX on UltimateDroid!" and see how long the thread lasts before it is shut down for a Rule 5 violation? And yet, how would requesting donations for WIMAX on UltimateDroid be any different than donations for WIMAX on CM? I feel sure that the same protagonists of this thread would immediately flame me on that thread for breaking forum rules.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ViViDboarder:
Honestly... why don't you just hit the unsubscribe button? You obviously have nothing to add and the tread appears to frustrate you. You on some kind of mission?

These are still donations. Nobody is going to be sore if someone doesn't make good on their pledge. It's very different than selling a service. When there is an exchange for goods or services there can be a dispute and all kinds of messes if the person doesn't deliver or they deliver but the buyer does not pay.

Such is not the case. All that's happening here is asking for some honesty and making good with a pledge. I hope those donating understand this, but I have a feeling they do.

Can't we all just.... get along?
[EVO 4G Android Development] cmart4:
Awesome,congrats! Now theres a Christmas to remember
[EVO 4G Android Development] mitchellvii:
With all due respect because I know you mean well, you are wrong. Any time there is an "if" involved in a donation, it is no longer a donation, it is "pay-for-play" and a violation of forum rules.

When we say we will pay the developers "if" they produce, it is NOT a donation. You can call it a donation but it is not.

I have formerly made a request to the Moderators that this thread be shut as it should have been months ago. Threads like this are Pandora's box. Do you want the entire Developer's Forum filled with "bounty" threads like this one? Of course you don't, but where does it end? You allowed this thread, how can you then deny others the same chance?

It's wrong - it needs to be closed or the Moderators need to come in here and explain why this thread is NOT a violation of policy and then welcome any and all thread like this in the future.

** Why don't I just unsubscribe? Am I on a mission? Yes, I am. A mission to save xda from destroying its credibility with "bounty" threads.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Lento10:
Interesting point of view, I think every rule is up for interpretation. I wonder what would happen, if you open a thread ' (pool) wimax on ultimate droid'? But the ultimatedroid is a touchy subject here.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xhazyx:
Congratulations man.... I hope you two go on to have a beautiful family, wish you the best.
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
WikileaksTaskForce???

Those complaining about the validity and legitimacy of the thread, there's a "REPORT" button. Kindly utilize that and avoid posting on the thread. The discussion of the thread is for WiMAX on CM. Had you read the OP, if you have nothing positive to contribute, you have nothing to post.

Swyped from my EVO
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
Congratulations, dude!! :D

Swyped from my EVO
[EVO 4G Android Development] hustle24:
lol Some of you guys should read your comment outloud before you post it. The unnecessary brown nosing is so cheesy.

No one gives a **** about shin or toast, all you care about is wimax on your phone.

Im sure if shin posted and said: "my wife wants to take me on a 6 month hiatus away from coding, thanks for the donations, wimax will be completed in june 2011," all these cheesy comments would cease.

Oh by the way, Happy Holidays!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] piscesjoey:
Congrats my man! Merry Christmas to everyone in this thread!
[EVO 4G Android Development] xhazyx:
Pardon me for wishing him the best, but I've seen a lot of broken marriages, so yea...

I hope u enjoy posting on Xmas just to criticize someone else's opinion
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Ok, everyone. I tweeted the following to Cyanogen this morning. I will advise you all when he responds.

@cyanogen We have reached $740 dollars and would like to officially donate the aforementioned money. Please advise of a way to donate the money collected in the pool that allows us to specify the money is intended to be used for the development of 4G. We are excited to contribute, and hopefully the previously mentioned money will help bring 4G to CM6 and the EVO.
[EVO 4G Android Development] p-slim:
I saw cyanogens last reply, not good. He wants us to wait for madcoder, but madcoder hasn't been even working on it according to his last reply

@geniusdog254 not recently.. RL taking over for a while :/ hope to get back on it soon

in repsonse to

@MadCoder Any new updates on CM6 WiMax?
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
Can't blame the guy for having a life though...

Swyped from my EVO via the XDA App
[EVO 4G Android Development] RichTJ99:
Bummer - 4g came to my town.
[EVO 4G Android Development] alextrox69:
put me down for $5 bucks.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Hopefully, $750 in his pocket will help change his mind.
[EVO 4G Android Development] twilk73:
The darkside always gets the coolest crap :/ lol

Dream we will lol. There is someone working on it when his real life isnt taking over lol it will happen.. I'll keep dreaming. No big deal anyway 4G is great but I just want it to see if my PS3 can play games with out lag lol. If thats the case I might just get ride of my internet connection.. on second thought black ops and zombies is gonna be awesome and I want to have a great connection for that action.
[EVO 4G Android Development] r.mauldin:
So it looks like in the end this just turned into another bounty thread.

Cyanogen and madcoder should have been contacted prior to even starting this thread. It is tuesday and I remember reading that the op would start collecting donations by sunday.

The only member of the cyanogen team madcoder is not even currently working on it.

Don't post about how the money is to get him to work on it. What money. After over a week it is still empty promises of donations. "bounty"

Oh well. I guess we can all just dream and waite.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Not so fast.

Just received a lengthy response from toastcfh. He seems like an incredibly nice guy. Both he and madcoder are working on implementing 4G in CM6, but independently. They have two different approaches, which seems like a great strategy.

More on this in a bit, but I in the process of discussing with him the best way to donate the money from this pool.
[EVO 4G Android Development] stangdriverdoug:
Good to hear. 4g is coming soon too my city...they are testing our now.

CM6 / Snap Powered
[EVO 4G Android Development] laydros:
I'm in for $25.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mikeallison:
That makes 3 of us working on it.

I started using Clear's approach, but I've scrapped it in favor of HTC's for the sake of compatibility with existing apps/widgets.

That said I'm a long ways off, there is little to no reference documentation for any 4g & Android development. Add all the timesinks of real life and I'm guessing someone will beat me to the punch. BUT, if they don't I'm sure I'll eventually have something.
[EVO 4G Android Development] madunix:
i love how people come to this thread and add their 2 cents to how this WON'T happen. why are you even here?? go elsewhere with your negativity. and also good luck in life with that mentality. you NEVER know... don't claim something differently just because YOU doubt it. why are people constantly trying to **** on other peoples hopes? selfish mother f*ckers that are just feenin to be right about SOMETHING in their small lives. go elsewhere with that ****. leave everyone here alone. kick rocks lil kids.
[EVO 4G Android Development] vboyz103:
in for $10

CM6 is great ROM and Snapified oh my, hopefully this will be agreed with devs and by then 4g will roll around the corner for me. :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
thanks for the update, kpoz! :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] redkloud:
Please put me in for $10 :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Thanks!

A-thank you.

Sure thing, buddy. Thanks for all of your help on this one.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Thanks, laydros. Glad you're in.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Glad to hear it! Are you collaborating at all with toastcfh or madcoder?
[EVO 4G Android Development] mikeallison:
No, I did take some cues from Madcoder when I started the Clear approach though. I'm not sure I'd be too good to collab with given my sporatic availability. That said I'd be happy to share my work if it's useful.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Great. I'll let toastcfh know. I haven't gotten a hold of madcoder, although I've only tried via Twitter.
[EVO 4G Android Development] zimmy6996:
Any news?

Just something to look at ... One of the spin-offs of Baked Snack now is an ASOP rom. They have it working with 4G. Maybe we can get the collective minds together and get this fix completed?

I am sure the Sprint Epic 4G people are gonna come knocking this week for CM6 as well. So now there will be 2 4G phones that people are looking for 4G support on.
[EVO 4G Android Development] SamJamz:
I would really like to see the FM radio working first.... only because the 4G is not avaliable in my area yet!
[EVO 4G Android Development] stangdriverdoug:
It's actually a sense rom with a lot of the sense removed and some ASOP items added in....dialer, contacts, messaging, email, ect. Its a good rom...I've been running it the past couple days.

CM6 / Snap Powered
[EVO 4G Android Development] p-slim:
which rom is this, the snap i found looked like it had sense in the op. where can i download the rom you're talking about with no sense?
[EVO 4G Android Development] stangdriverdoug:
eOSX Chiuaua...sp? It's on page 1 of this forum.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dsh897:
Im pretty sure this rom still has sense built into it. theyve just removed the sense UI from the home screen but all the code is still built into the rom.. *i believe*

hence its not true NO sense.. they just hid it
[EVO 4G Android Development] p-slim:
I understand, but they have replaced many sense items like all those named above. Calendar, contacts, web, and more
[EVO 4G Android Development] stangdriverdoug:
OP...exactly.
[EVO 4G Android Development] donatom3:
Cyanogen won't use it if it's not open source. Those roms are still using HTC kernels and they still have the core sense code. Yes they have AOSP apps in there, but Sense is still in the way.
[EVO 4G Android Development] stangdriverdoug:
You are correct.

CM6 / Snap Powered
[EVO 4G Android Development] echoside:
Your right, thats why I put kinda by aosp in the title. Also put its not true aosp in the op (I changed the op a few days ago might not still be there.)

App wise the only sense you will see is the camera (I like it better) and some aspects of the dialer (WIP)
[EVO 4G Android Development] p-slim:
i fully understand this and how cyanogens rom works, I don't know why you are explaining this to me.
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
I think the point was that those ROMs still incorporate HTC's Sense framework. It's not open-source, hence why Cyanogen and Co won't use it.

Swyped from my EVO via the XDA App
[EVO 4G Android Development] p-slim:
yeah the only reason i'm interested is because i need to use a 4g rom this weekend and i know cyanogen has the only aosp but i want to use the closest rom to cyanogens this weekend that incorporates 4g, that particular rom that was mentioned was exactly what i was looking for.

back on topic, i'm glad to hear toastcfh is working on 4G, that guy usually accomplishes anything he puts his mind to. My evo is still running off of his original root process, 1 and 2.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Ok, everyone, here is an update. Toastcfh said the following:

"Like I said brother I can't except anything for not producing any results sic [. . .] I and maejrep are still chopping at the block. I think were down to reversing the libhardware_legacy.so. we need to be able to talk to the module so it can talk to the kernel. Its just all about lots of time in IDA seeing what the .so is all made of :p its a pita for sure. Btw thanx for the kind words about me. I do all this for the community and its good to see its appreciated."

Here is how we should approach the situation at this junction. Toastcfh is clearly a mench and an incredibly nice individual. He does not feel that donations would be appropriate since he technically hasn't produced anything. Therefore, I propose that we keep this pool alive and donate once 4G on CM6 is released. Please let me know what you all think.
[EVO 4G Android Development] goodelyfe:
yea toast is really cool peoples!
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
This does not mean we should stop donating. He still appreciates the support, and he deserves to be rewarded when he successfully implements 4G in CM6.
[EVO 4G Android Development] donatom3:
You can throw in $10 from me. I'm waiting for 4G so i can go back to Cyanogenmod.
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
i agree. i second your proposal.

btw, thanks for the update! mad props to toast, madcoder, and anyone else working on wimax. it's stupid hard, tedious, and annoying, and i wish them the best of luck! :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Great!

As always, thanks for your support, Shift_. I'm glad there are 3 individuals working on it. It's very reassuring.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
We have eclipsed $800.00!

Let's keep it going!
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
yea, i didn't even know about maejrep. i know mikeallison was on it too (saw his name pop up on twitter).

*sigh of relief*

+1

*blatantly bumping thread*
[EVO 4G Android Development] Lento10:
Put me down for $5
[EVO 4G Android Development] nicholaaaas:
do we have a donation method yet?
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Read the page before this. Had a nice chat w/ toastcfh. We'll be donating after the 4G code is developed. He doesn't want donations until then because he doesn't want to take our money without accomplishing anything.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
maejrep is madcoder, apparently. I didn't know that until toastcfh told me.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dwntwnall4u:
Put down for $10
[EVO 4G Android Development] nicholaaaas:
cool

how bout putting that in the op?
[EVO 4G Android Development] riassan:
You can put me in for the $5 spot on this one!
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Good idea. Thanks.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Thanks for your contributions!
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
Oh ok.

Swyped from my EVO via the XDA App
[EVO 4G Android Development] nbm400:
+20
[EVO 4G Android Development] joe85:
I'll throw down $10.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
That's what I like to see! Let's keep it up!
[EVO 4G Android Development] The Chris:
So is money actually being deposited somewhere, or does the running tally consist of "Hey man, I'll give $xxx to the cause!"
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
read the op. toast/maejrep won't accept the pool until the wimax work is completed and released. these are all pledges at the moment.

word is bond, yo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cheapskate88:
I'll donate.

Please put me down for $5.

Cheers,

cheapskate
[EVO 4G Android Development] cartoonmonkey:
Go Cyanogen!

If anyone can bring it to the best rom, Cyan can.

Put me down for $50!
[EVO 4G Android Development] onicrom:
+20

(how do we donate?)
[EVO 4G Android Development] sopel10:
Put me down for 10$, I just recently found out that I can't live without cm6.

Swyped from my CM6 evo
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
I updated the OP yesterday with information related to your question, but basically toastcfh would like us to wait until he (and two others) actually develop the 4G code until we donate. Basically, he doesn't want to be rewarded until he gets the job done. Clearly, he's a great person and quite noble.
[EVO 4G Android Development] matt4200:
Currently this is the only thing holding me back on using cyanogenmod so put me down for another $10.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Awesome. I believe you are the first double contributor.

Edit: You said "another $10", however I don't see an initial post from you. Would yo like to contribute $10 total or $20 total?
[EVO 4G Android Development] zaner123:
$10

I can donate $10 dollars.. I'm moving to Seattle soon, and after seeing how well 4g works (using the Fresh Rom) I would really like 4g... but CM6's pros outweigh the pros of 4g.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Thanks. Myself (and the 30+ contributors in this thread) couldn't agree more.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
We are on the cusp of reaching $1,000! Thank you to everyone who has donated thus far!
[EVO 4G Android Development] The Rubenator:
I got $25 on it
[EVO 4G Android Development] The Rubenator:
Donation

The Rubenator: $25.00
[EVO 4G Android Development] eman3316@optonline.net:
Never mind......
[EVO 4G Android Development] jaysmi32:
i got $10 on it ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] stangdriverdoug:
4g is now testing in my area.....I'm in for $10

From my Evo using 4G
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
$1,000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
HOLY JIZZLEBUNS ON A STICK!!!!

\o/
[EVO 4G Android Development] eniamg02:
Sorry I haven't read the whole entire thread but had cyanogen or someone on his team gave any response to the pool?
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
read the updated op :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] mrkmrk:
Sweeeeet! :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] BilliardCoach:
I'm down for $20.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Mmmm buns.
[EVO 4G Android Development] UND3RTAK3R:
OMG...1K!¡!¡! CANT WAIT TO GIVE UP THOSE DEAD PRESIDENTS....

UND3RTAK3R

"DON'T GO SILENT INTO THAT GOOD NITE"
[EVO 4G Android Development] kawasaki00:
Put me down for $10
[EVO 4G Android Development] edufur:
This is getting ridiculous. I would bet a thousand bucks that they don't see even half of that promise delivered.
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
i usually just refrain from responding to such silly and unhelpful posts, but i'm tired and slightly irritated now. so here goes:

if you've got $1000 to throw away on 4g never coming to the evo, pledge that money right now to hope to see it become true. otherwise, kindly stfu and gtfo. it's one thing to not agree, but it's another to just speak without knowing/reading.

kthxbai

/goes back to helpful mode
[EVO 4G Android Development] wy1d:
So you are saying if at least 500 is collected, you will give an additional 1000? What a great guy! That basically makes this bounty up to 2k!

Swyped on my EVO
[EVO 4G Android Development] Saturn2K:
I bet $500 that that guy won't give up $1000 if you collect half of your donations.
[EVO 4G Android Development] wy1d:
Lol! So if all money is collected, that makes the bounty 2500!

Swyped on my EVO
[EVO 4G Android Development] stangdriverdoug:
I have a good paying job that required me to use my phone a lot and I can afford $10 for the cause.

CM6 / Snap Powered
[EVO 4G Android Development] bbedward:
1000 bux is a good payday, I'd take a week off work if I could get it done
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
I think that he is in the process of having a "Ken Mehlman" identity crisis.

I'll donate an additional $10 when someone gets my joke.
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
LMFAO!!!

omg, just for that, bump up my pledge another $50.
[EVO 4G Android Development] r.mauldin:
Please stop calling it donations. No one has donated anything yet. It is called a pledge. I am sad that this turned into just another bounty thread. instead of getting upset at posters who do not agree, contact the developers prior too starting a thread.

I would still like to see a list of those who have actually donated with transaction#. Post that and I will donate the $10 I pledged.
[EVO 4G Android Development] oreoOozZz:
Whoever gets this pool is one lucky crew/man.
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
i know what you're saying, but let's not put kpoz's efforts down. as busy as he is, he's trying to work with the devs to arrange a proper way to send the pledges/donations/promises/unicorns their way. this is not a bounty thread. it's a pledge, yes, but this is xda. the very nature of the community is about supporting the devs, and the pushing the devices we love so much.
[EVO 4G Android Development] RichTJ99:
I think the op should start accepting the PayPal donations in this thread. While I 'may' have the money today, I 'might' not have it tomorrow should be the thought process. The op could always do refunds if this doesn’t happen in a reasonable amount of time (3 months or so).

At least the pledgers money is real. I would be happy to be the first to put my PayPal into an actual pot.

That way, if I don’t have the money later, its already spent, or if I get another device, etc.

Just my thoughts. then people on the fence can see actual transactions being sent.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Read the OP, buddy. Nobody has donated anything yet, pursuant to toastcfh's request. Call it what you want. Terminology is unimportant.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Looks like we'll need to be donating soon!!!

http://github.com/CyanogenMod/cm-kernel/commit/ec6dd19ec9c8b98b096f7bb38e48ae1eb2cdec73
[EVO 4G Android Development] BigRick10:
Holy Mother Of Chuck Norris!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] mejor:
Is there a reason why they couldn't use the samsungs open source code from the EPIC?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Saturn2K:
I doubt it. I think this will be like the HDMI commit on August 20th. It just means that if you flashed this kernel on a Sense rom, Wimax and HDMI would still work. I just don't think this will actually give CM6 Wimax.

I'll be a real dollar on this.
[EVO 4G Android Development] grimneval:
Put me down for 10 please and thank you.
[EVO 4G Android Development] maejrep:
Yeah, this is just kernel support, and it's code that HTC released in their kernel source.

Clear released an open source patch to the Android system (applies to version 1.0, mind you), which I've added to a fork of the CM6 code. The missing link is libhardware_legacy, for which there is no open source example, and must be entirely reverse engineered.
[EVO 4G Android Development] psych2l:
Thanks for the heads up, its unfortunate but it does save me from staying up and refreshing the thread :D