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[Droid Eris Android Development] jcitron:
I was under the impression that the setting on the "main" tab were what the phone would run at anytime it wasn't being overridden by a profile setting. So a <100 setting would be a bit redundant.

Also, 710 is the default clock setting, but wouldn't changing the main setting to a max of 768 make that the new default? Even when plugged in unless your profile says otherwise.

I use 122-768 default and don't notice any lag on waking. Then I use the following profiles in order of priority:

Temp > 40: 122-245

Screen Off: 19-245

Battery <20%: 122-480

Charging/Full: 710-710

I figure if the phone gets hot, let it cool. When the screen is off, let it save battery. When the battery runs low, clock down to preserve battery. And when plugged in let it fly, but since charging adds considerable heat, I don't let it fly too high.
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
imho get rid of charging/full profile...it slows charging, makes phone hot, and works the cpu unnecessarily

screen off should be the highest priority...it cools your phone too BUT phone still does losts of work while its asleep so i suggest a 480 max there
[Droid Eris Android Development] rick311:
these are my profiles:

screen off: 245 - 122 - 100% priority

temp > 60: 160 - 122 - 100% priority

batt < 40% 528 - 245 - 88% priority

batt < 65% 604 - 480 - 72% priority

charge usb/full: 710 - 480 - 60% priority

charging/full: 710 - 480 - 60% priority

under advanced:

sampling rate: 20000

up threshold: 80

ignore nice load: 0

powersave bias: 0

i realize some of these are underclocked, but ive seen no real loss in performance.
[Droid Eris Android Development] synaptyc:
Can someone link me the apps ("autokiller" and Superuser) that is mentioned in this thread?

I want to try this system with the latest xtrSENSE 4.0.6.1 build to see if I can squeeze more battery life from this stable sense ROM. The rom came with Superuser v2.3.1
[Droid Eris Android Development] putnum:
awesome thread guys. Kinda new to setcpu are you using on demand or performance when using your settings?

adam
[Droid Eris Android Development] droidfanatic:
This is the best thread ever!!! I usd wilshyre's settings and man....i can't believe it, its sitting at 122mHz when Im not doing anything...fantastic!! Will have to see how the batt holds up now.
[Droid Eris Android Development] jcitron:
Worth a shot. I removed the charging profile, you're right, plus it'll still be running at default levels which are respectable.

I also took your advice and upped the screen off priority and upped the max there as well.

My only questions is this....if I understand the way the priorities work, by having the screen off priority higher than the temp one what will happen is this; when my temp goes above 40C and the screen is on, it will run at 122-245, but when I turn the screen off, because it has the higher priority the clock will jump to 19-480? That just seems odd to me.
[Droid Eris Android Development] doogald:
On demand. Performance will make the clock run at the highest of the numbers always. You want on demand, for the screen off profile at the very least.

You are right. I think that you should have temp as the highest priority, but set the minimum to 19.2 as well. If my device is hot, even with the screen off, you'd want the CPU clocked down.
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
Guys put some good thought into your profiles

IMHO I think screen off should be the highest priority. Screen off cools the battery also

Battwry temp profiles are for when the phone is ON AND RUNNIG HOT (tethering, GPS and such) downclock at high temps helps you stay cool

Screen off cool even further that why I highly suggest a screen off profile of 19min--480 Max because your phone could b doing work when the screen is off
[Droid Eris Android Development] doogald:
Why is the battery temp only when the display is on? I can have the screen off and, if it is hot outdoors and I am, say, at the beach, or out in the sun, the temp can still be high.

If my phone is hot, display on or off, I want that to be the profile that takes precedence.
[Droid Eris Android Development] hoovnick:
Great suggestion and input from everyone. I've set mine to the settings in the OP and have noticed a pretty good increase in battery life. But what gave my phone the biggest boost in battery life was turning off the data while I'm at work. I noticed that I don't get the greatest signal here, so by turning off my data, the phone isn't constantly searching for a good data signal. I unplugged it from the charger at 7:25 am and it is now 3:48 here. I am sitting at 85%. I have made 2 phone calls, turned on data and sync for an hour at lunch while I browsed Facebook and checked emails. Pretty good if you ask me. I only wish that I could somehow get a better signal here at work so I can have my data on so I can use Pandora. Any ideas would be appreciated.
[Droid Eris Android Development] doogald:
WiFi at work would be best, if they'd let you use it. Also, word is that Verizon Wireless is coming out with a 3G network extender soon, though, of course, work would have to let you use their network (and you'd have to be relatively close to a window.)
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
I know it tough to understand its also hard for me to explain BUT...

if you were at the beach and its hot and the phone is hot (YOUR SCREEN OFF 19MIN--245MAX or 480MAX) IS keeping the phone cool

Temp settings are for when you are using the phone AND it is hot its stays at a lower clock to help stay cool when on (temp <40 19MIN--528MAX my personal settings)

THEN WHEN YOU ARE FINISHED USING THE PHONE (screen back off) IT DOWN CLOCKS TO SLEEP WHICH IS SLOWER THAN A TEMP PROFILE THUS KEEPING IT COOL ANYWAY

therefore a slower clock will give better cooling and the slowest clock IS screen off

this is why i think screen off should be the highest profile

hope you are understanding a little better of what im saying :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] doogald:
Not to carry this on too much, but, again, that's my point - I want the temp failsafe (as it used to be called) to have a lower max cpu than screen off - or, at least as low. I don't care if the screen is on or off at high temp - I want the CPU clocked down.

You can Nav with the screen off, for example, so it is possible for it to get hot that way (though, honestly, I don't know how hot it gets if you Nav with the display off.)
[Droid Eris Android Development] dannyboy988:
I'm still playing around with these settings, but I noticed that at low clock speeds music is skipping a lot. Anybody else experience this?
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
i need more details please
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
its all good bro lets get to the bottom of this

but sir screen off clocks down FURTHER than the temp profiles (get it!) LOL

so screen off is the BEST temp profile to cool down

there will be times u need to use our phone warm...
[Droid Eris Android Development] mackeydesigns:
trying to soak up all the latest posts regarding settings and this is what i'm running and would like feedback based on it and if I should change anything. I'm not sure what a high temp threshold is on this phone, so let me know!

Eris KaosFroyo V30

Main - 710 MAX - 122 MIN

Profiles -

Screen Off

Priority 80 245 MAX - 19 MIN

Battery <30%

Priority 70 480 MAX - 245 MIN

Temp > 104 F

Priority 65 245 MAX - 19 MIN

Advanced:

Sampling: 20000

Up: 60

Ignore: 1

Powersave: 60
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
Hmmm go ahead and down your main to 19min

set your screen off to the highest of you priorities

my temp profile is at 40deg 19 min--528max (528max which is stock clock settings)

also down your battery profile to 19

fyi test out some heavy multitasking loads like pandora, gps, cardio trainer, gps WHILE SCREEN IS OFF for performance if any laog at all rasie your screen off "max" a little to 480MAX i think works the best
[Droid Eris Android Development] dannyboy988:
Thats pretty much as detailed as it gets... I'm not sure what else you want. When the music player is playing in the background, sometimes the cpu goes below 245 and the music slows down and skips like a bad cd. The only solution was to up the lowest clock speed.
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
no what you want to do is up the highest clock speed in screen off profile

leave the min at 19
[Droid Eris Android Development] jdog94:
im running these setting but with screen on mine does not stay at 19 it bounces up and down
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
bouncing is normal

just check the time in state on setcpu
[Droid Eris Android Development] doogald:
Set the temp priority higher than the battery <30. If your temp is high but the battery is less than 30, it will clock at 480/245 instead of the 245/19, since the priority of that profile is higher. In other words, set the temp profile higher than 70.
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
+1 on that. thats how i have it too
[Droid Eris Android Development] Ty07allstar:
Is anyone having issues with the advanced settings going back to stock on a reboot? I have set on boot checked. Any ideas?
[Droid Eris Android Development] Hungry Man:
Yes I've had that issue. I'm not sure if it's the new SU or what.
[Droid Eris Android Development] jdog94:
mine are staying
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
do you have the latest super user and the latest setcpu
[Droid Eris Android Development] Bimmer323:
Regarding the bouncing, I think you should look at increasing your lowest setting. Mine was bouncing like mad @ 122 or lower. At 245 it stays put.
[Droid Eris Android Development] 30secs:
Excuse my ignorance, but what is 19MIN? So you guys use SetCPU not to overclock your phone, but to tame it? Interesting..
[Droid Eris Android Development] Mackattack:
No prob here at 160, but lower yeah it bounces like a dancer.
[Droid Eris Android Development] 30secs:
BTW, why does my phone run slower when i overclock it?! choppy and all.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Ty07allstar:
Yup, that was the first thing I checked. I don't remember it doing this before but I'm not sure.
[Droid Eris Android Development] rigbyrobot:
How high are you overclocking?
[Droid Eris Android Development] rigbyrobot:
Soo ...anyone mod a heat sink for there phone and see how far they can push the processor
[Droid Eris Android Development] Cavyjason:
setCPU is frustrating the crap out of me right now.

Every single time I run it to make these changes, it locks my phone up after about 1 minute of use. Lock up as in "Hey, you get to pull your battery now!". I have gotten the settings in, but have not committed them to set on boot. My phone might not ever boot again if I do! :)

KaosFroyo v30

superuser v2.3.4 (su binary 2.3.1-ef)

setCPU 2.0.2

Yes, setCPU has superuser permission.

Any thoughts?
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
what are you settings?
[Droid Eris Android Development] malcolmia:
temp?

On OP, you have

Should be TEMP >40 ?

I have no TEMP <
[Droid Eris Android Development] Cavyjason:
Main 787200 Max 19200 Min

Temp > 40.4 528 Max 19 Min ondemand

Battery < 50 604 Max 19 Min ondemand

Screen Off 480 Max 19 Min ondemand

Trying to change the battery profile I got "Activity Profile ...." is not responding. And now setCPU closed out to home screen and phone is locked up.
[Droid Eris Android Development] jhart15063:
my phone freezes instantly when it goes to 19 mghz. i think you should bump up your mins in those profiles
[Droid Eris Android Development] eghill1125:
Cavy...

You may have to lower your max on your main. Your phone may not handle 787. Some do and some don't..
[Droid Eris Android Development] doogald:
That's probably too fast for your phone. Set that max down a step and see if that fixes it. I'd also set the min for the default to something higher than 19200 - 245 or 160 at the least.
[Droid Eris Android Development] rigbyrobot:
I'd bump my mins and lower my maximum a Tad, the factory set processor speed is 528, low to mid 700's works well for me, once I push close to 800 performance sucks or battery drain during use is to much, also you want to keep you stepping to around 300mghz between your low and high per profile , also check your temp setting and the ranking of permissions.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Cavyjason:
Dropped Max to 748800 and it seems to be working now!

Thanks!
[Droid Eris Android Development] eghill1125:
So after a few days now... what are everyone's thoughts on this stuff? I have heard both sides of the SetCPU and I really can't tell myself. Some will say that a setting of 710/19 is good and others will say to keep them closer like 710/480...

Seems to be a divide and I can't really see which way would be the benefit because I am at work all day with very poor WiFi and zero 3G bars when not on WiFi...

Any more observations after some more time with the lower settings and stuff?
[Droid Eris Android Development] Irieone:
Having same issue

I cannot play music (mp3s on sd) without having minimums @ 245. Anything lower causes skipping. I played around raising the max and it does not help the problem. This is of course specific to screen off.

EDIT: Wow... enabling Compcache fixes the music problem. I can now clock down to 19 without issues.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Bimmer323:
Well, I played around with it for a day and a half and haven't noticed any battery savings on my phone. The only thing I've noticed is lag when recieving a phone call, and moving through phone screens.

Personally, I feel the <300 deviation from hi/low is better for the processor than going as low as possible. From previous discussions dropping down to 480 puts the cpu into a lower voltage state than 525+ and therefore saves battery.

I'm going back to no SetCPU and using stock settings, seems to work best on my phone.

I do appreciate all of the testing done here and hopefully it helps with others, but for me, turning off 3g when I'm not using it results in the biggest battery savings.
[Droid Eris Android Development] goldenstorm:
I had the same problem playing music when screen went to sleep until I changed the power save option from 60 back to 0. Plays fine now even with CPU min set to 19.2...
[Droid Eris Android Development] Irieone:
Do you have Compcache enabled?
[Droid Eris Android Development] goldenstorm:
Indeed I do :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
Wow mine is disabled

Going to enable it and see

Do a performance test before and after if you can
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
If anything sleep profile should def be

19--480 and def the highest profile
[Droid Eris Android Development] Irieone:
You want me to run linpack with compcache on/off?
[Droid Eris Android Development] Ty07allstar:
If you could. Would help me with my decision of turning Compcache on or off. Actually do you have Quadrant? If you do run that because it is more accurate then linpack.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Irieone:
running both linpack and quadrant now..... stay tuned
[Droid Eris Android Development] Irieone:
Performance Scores

I am at 710 max/ 19 min for main profile

Compcache Off

LP - 4.95, 4.96, 4.98 MFLOPS

Quadrant - 394

Compcache On

LP- 4.96, 5.01, 4.98 MFLOPS

Quadrant - 413
[Droid Eris Android Development] Ty07allstar:
Thanks. I'll leave compcache on.
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
im shocked compressed cache is faster

i will be leaving it on also

+1 good work
[Droid Eris Android Development] Mackattack:
How do we enable Compcache?
[Droid Eris Android Development] Izeltokatl:
Go to MEnu, Settings, Cyanogen Mod Settings, Performance Settings, then click on Use Compcache
[Droid Eris Android Development] ryanf:
I was just curious, is the temp 40 in C or F?
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
Sorry i missed you check your pm
[Droid Eris Android Development] Ty07allstar:
Sometimes when I unlock my phone the top bar appears then the whole screen appears instead of being all at the same time. Also sometimes right when I unlock it the time updates real fast instead of already being updated. Does anyone know why? I've messed with a bunch of settings in SetCPU and can't seem to figure it out. Anybody have this issue?
[Droid Eris Android Development] rigbyrobot:
What's your setcpu settings
[Droid Eris Android Development] Ty07allstar:
I've tried tons of settings and still it lags.

748/245

Screen off 480/245

Advanced

500000

70

0

10
[Droid Eris Android Development] rigbyrobot:
Try bringing your main profile. High down just a little, and your screen off up a little, and bump autokiller to strict or optimum also are you using adw or LP?
[Droid Eris Android Development] Ty07allstar:
I've tried bringing it down and raising the screen off up and it still lags. I am using launcher pro.

Sent from my FroyoEris
[Droid Eris Android Development] BOY_:
Thanks OP! I was about to go nuts with the terrible battery life on my V30 Kaos ROM and now it seems to be much MUCH more sorted. Again, much thanks! :D
[Droid Eris Android Development] eghill1125:
Ty07,

That almost sounds like a launcher pro setting causing that time thing. check and see if in the advanced settings of Launcher Pro what your memory usage is and try different ones for the caching and stuff. Try Moderate, Light, Low etc. and see if that helps at all

By the way... I am running Tazz 1.0 right now and I am currently sitting at 17 hours and 12 minutes since unplugged with 53% left on my battery. Good stuff with these different tweaks :) This is without a ton of usage.... maybe 25 texts, updating market apps, internet browsing a little, 15-20 emails, facebook and twitter updating every 2 hours. That is about a normal or slightly less than normal day for me, but I am also at work from 8-4 with no bars on Mobile showing and a barely there bar when using a real poor Wifi.. I am happy with that battery life on the Eris.
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
Hey everyone try this out

im almost at the holy grail here

try this set up

SCREEN OFF 19--480 (95 priority)

TEMP <40 19--580 (90 priority)

ADVANCED SETTINGS

SAMPLING RATE---100000

UP THRESHOLD---98

ignore nice ---0

power save bias---0

hit apply (if you like it check set at boot)

things to notice....

in the main screen in setcpu watch the main frequency values bounce up and down...after a few seconds the values seem to stabilize at the lowest frequency of 19

in time of state screen even when screen on most of the time the 19 freq get the most values

i need a few guys to run, test and monitor the values that i just posted ^^^HERE^^^

this may further the battery life once we stabilize the frequency to 19 most of the time while keep the SAME performance which i think i may have did :D

run some linpacks and quadrants with those setting

i got

5.4 linpack running 787max

431 quad running 787max

then it drops back to 19 and stabilizes

hope this works and please post all your feed back and setting so we can learn this and get it perfect

thanks
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] malcolm159:
Hi

newby here been doing a lot of reading and just found out that there are two types of screen for the htc desire amoled & slcd.I'm waiting for a new desire to arrive in the next couple of days and was wondering if the new slcd screen was any better of worse than the amoled one.The reason for asking is that the desire is advertised as having an amoled screen and if its better then perhaps i should return it without opening the box as it would be not as descrided in the description of the phone.Can any tell me where to look on the box to see which type of sceen it is or is there no difference in the 2 screens worth bothering about.

Thanks in advance.

Regard Malcolm
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] !PANDA:
well, I don't know which one is better, but on the normal box (white and tall with a full size desire on it) it says at the back.. Specifications Display 3.7-inch AMOLED touch-sensetive screen

hope this helps! good luck!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thunderbirds:
AMOLED is way better

has better battery life
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BigMango:
Nope, according to what has been reported in the news and what HTC is telling everyone, the Desire now has a better battery life thanks to the new SLCD screens.

AMOLED:

+ better contrast and black levels (makes for a better looking picture)

- can't see anything on the screen when used outside or when the sun is shining on the screen

- lower battery life

SLCD:

- a little lower contrast (but still looking great and much better than standard LCD).

+ can see the screen outside in sun light.

+ better battery life.

As far as I'm concerned, a phone I can't use outside due to a useless screen is of no use to me; so I choose the SLCD over the AMOLED. Of course S-AMOLED (as found on the Samsung Galaxy S) would be the best of both worlds (great contrast and you can use it outside).
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lennyuk:
SLCD is supposed to have at least 5 times better battery life than normal LCD, I don't think AMOLED can say that.

In reality the noticeable differences between the 2 screens will be little to none, however on paper SCLD does edge it.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MeeMk:
Here's one comparison:

http://blog.gsmarena.com/htc-desire-with-s-lcd-screen-meets-one-with-amoled-they-go-head-to-head/

In short: The SLCD allows for better battery life and improved sunlight readability, while the AMOLED produces more vibrant colours.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] malcolm159:
Hi thanks for info mines arrived and it looks like its the s-lcd screen with whats on the box no mention of amoled ,but if the battery life is better then maybe that is the way to go if there's little to chose in the display side of the screen.Just got to diside wheather to open the box and get on with it or ship ai back as no as described ie no amoled screen.

Thanks in advance.

Regards Malcolm
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Odinbear:
Is it this simple to tell the Difference

Hi all.

See the below post for pictures of the differance with the screens and boxes. Also details of them.

I didnt and possibly am stuck with the Sled version. :(

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=7882882&postcount=61

To bonit2,

Welcome to the site. Didnt see your post as must have been updating mine when you made yours. :D

Will be trying the update tomorrow so its a case of "suck it and see"

Once done will re-post on sucess/failure.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bonit2:
Hi! my first post here.

not to add more to the confusion but i have the same print in the box as yours and mine is still AMOLED display.

At first i thought it was SLCD and having nothing to compare it with, i bit the bullet and root using the one for AMOLED. no display blackout and all went well.

my guess is that the print in the box was to prepare for the roll out of the S-LCD even if there are still AMOLED display on stock.

of course you may have a real S-LCD so good luck.:D
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sudkcoce:
I have the amoled screen and i can ALWAYS read my screen outside and very easily too.

Why do some people keep misinforming others that amoled screen is unreadable outside or in the sun ?!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BBNuno:
Hi!

I already test both Desire with Amoled and S-LCD and forget S-LCD...If you try Amoled first you will never go back trust me.

I love Amoled. You will never see the differences if you don't use it, and forget youtube comparative videos because you will not be able to detect the real differences...

For me Amoled it's much better and if you want to save baterry just work with sync settings...Why sync gmail contacts, facebook contacts, weather... every 1 hour?

Amoled or S-Amoled but only on galaxy I think for now...
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GoodLinux:
To check if my Desire is AMOLED or SLCD

I have checked on my Box,

specifications are :

Modèle : A8181

Affichage : Ecran tactil 3,7 pouces

there is no specification for the kind of screen AMOLED or SLCD.

any idea ?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BigMango:
If amoled is not specified in the specs it's SLCD.