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[Droid Incredible Android Development] fortesquieu:
Wait, you don't add up time along with awake up. No?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] melophat:
not that i'm going to doubt you, as you obviously know massively more than I do, but i'm consistantly showing 4-8db lower(better) with your #4 kernal that with any of the others.. i thought it was the placebo effect, so i flashed #3 back and checked, then 4 and sure enough i got a gain on 4 again.. sitting in the same place in my house where i know the consistant ranges of the signal..
[Droid Incredible Android Development] M4gicM@:
slug

Does anyone notice the sync icon when getting the sluggy performance? This is really getting annoying, with the phone chugging every 40hrs or so.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] M4gicM@:
If I go into accounts and sync I can see gmail trying to sync mail and contacts. I use the 2.2.1 ver of gmail, maybe this is the issue. I will revert back and report my findings.

Anybody else use 2.2.1, have sync icon, and have the sluggy issue?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Div033:
Wow that's a lot better than id get on my 2150mah battery! Please do share your set cpu settings :)

Also no you do not add awake time to uptime. Uptime is total time on, awake time is total time working. I think that includes playing music with the screen off.

I recently just flashed SRV RC3 and am keeping the stock kernal to gain more perspective on how much KK increases my battery life. If the difference is miniscule then I probably wont go back due to the lag issues I had, but you're tempting me to go reflash it right now!

Then again, about 90% of my awake time is usually web browsing... so that could speak volumes :D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ToyTank:
Not using set cpu. Seems to give me worse battery life and stability.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Div033:
Wow, I always thought using setcpu for a screen off profile would certainly help battery life. I'm going to see how things are without it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] JoeyBert:
is it better to flash a kernel after a full charge or does it not matter?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] elborak:
You specifically said:

In other words you are claiming that the quality of king's "exceptional kernels" was the cause for the stagnation of hydra kernels. That's completely untrue, as I pointed out. And that's the drama you were creating (perhaps unintentionally).

No big deal. Just pointing out the error.

Edit: I see adrynalyne posted substantially the same thing. So it's not just me who saw drama in your post.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] apaxi:
Yes... I noticed the exact same thing. In two cases, I was far beyond 40 hours, but every time it got sluggish my phone was syncing.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] blakeem:
An uodate, going on 42 hours with no issues.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SLOflatlander:
i agree, i have had many many reboots in like fifteen minutes. at least eight or nine. one after linpack, about five when trying to overclock with set cpu, one in launcher pro, and at least three other random ones. and does this clock down to 128mhz also like the other ones? or only 254mhz
[Droid Incredible Android Development] scuccia:
Stable for me at 1113. I've never been able to OC more than 1113 anyways...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] s197:
Min is 245 according to Set CPU. Seems like it's pretty much verified that 1.2ghz is not stable at the moment but you can still overclock to the hydra speed levels and have stability.

Kingklick, thanks so much for compiling these kernels. Minor bugs are to be expected but it's obvious from kernel #2 you're really on to something and we need all the battery we can get. Really appreciate you coming over and helping us out.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
Okay, test-driving Kernal 2 now........

About to put my DI on the charger for the night (battery at 27%), but first a Quadrant score test:

#1: 1106

#2: 1227

No Set CPU adjustments. I can live with that. :cool:

Now we'll see how the battery life does tomorrow. Thanks, King! Keeping fingers crossed.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] :
I'm getting a 48 in the OLD linpack when using this kernel and jdfroyo

sent from jdfroyo v2.0 EVO-lution
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayhammy:
wow

Holy crap. I just got 1329 on Quadrant Standard after loading kernel #2. Is that good? I'm kind of a noob to kernals and rooting, etc.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] :
1329 is pretty good

sent from jdfroyo v2.0 EVO-lution
[Droid Incredible Android Development] markassbuster:
I was getting reboots and hordes of FCs on first flash. I restored my SR 2.2 rom with HTC kernel, uninstalled setcpu 2.0.2 then reflashed this kernel. After that finished I reinstalled setcpu 2.0.2. Now I have not had any reboots or FCs yet. Quadrant shot up to 1410 and my max MHz is set to 1113.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Reddog80p:
I'm surprised so many of you are having reboot issues when overclocking to 1190.4 I've ran every app I have plus nenamark, linkpak and quadrant with no issues. I also noticed that my cpu temp seems to be a little lower @ 90.3 f. I'm running oc'd to the max using setCPU on performance.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayhammy:
And here's the screenshot.

As far as I know, I'm not overclocking except using this kernel. If that's even doing it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] LTL11:
Kernal 2 ocd to 1.15 seems to be stable to me.

curious to see how much better battery life is. Thanks for the work king.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] seanzer:
If its possible, I would love to see this kernel set min to below 245..
[Droid Incredible Android Development] destovel:
just out of curiosity, if i flashed this and it didnt work out, could i revert back to the default sky raider kernel through the posted stock kernel in rom manager in the sky raider section?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SLOflatlander:
after a few tests, it is only stable up to 1113 for me as well. and im on your rom :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] s197:
What ROM are you using?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Omniel:
On Aiccucs rom with Kernel #2 I have stability when set to max 1.15 in setcpu. With performance governor on i get quadrant scores of 1550+ really amazing keep up the good work.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Bobb_o:
Do you notice an increase in battery life from the hydra undervolt kernel that comes with that ROM?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Reddog80p:
Skyraider 2.5.2 highest quadrant so far 1499.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Nomsy79:
Thanks King for the update. Definitely appreciate the hard work you are putting into this.

I noticed when I max at 1190 - scaling at conservative, if I try to run Quadrant, it runs the first animation and then kicks me back out to the Quadrant menu.

Anyone else experience this?

I uninstalled Quadrant and re-installed, and rebooted...still happening.

Running SR 2.5.2 Sense/Radio 2.15

**well looks like after a couple reboots, Quadrant fixed itself. I'm able to run the full test..hit 1392 on conservative. Very nice work king!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] zeke1988:
oc to 115 with performance governor, got 1442 on quadrant. :)

MFLOPS: 38 :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] danman7:
I was having the same problem. I had gotten to the point where it would not send outbound email. It would just sit in a "Sending" state. I cleared data and cache of the Gmail application. Once it resynced, it's been fine ever since. I'll post if it starts happening again.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bigsushi:
So if I've got SkyRaider 3.1 (not even sure if it makes a difference) then which one of these kernels is going to give me the best battery life? I'm not going to OC or do anything fancy. I just want my battery to last as long as possible.

Thanks for any help.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Stam2000:
I'm using BFS#4 with 3.1 without setcpu and htc 1500 battery and am getting great battery life and stability
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Amin Sabet:
Getting great performance, stability, and battery life with BFS 4.

Donated just now.

Seems to run better without SetCPU, but maybe that's a coincidence.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SkyWalkerOG:
Can someone point me to a guide on how to use this with the uncommon sense rom or any rom for that matter? I'm not seeing any install instructions.

Thanks,
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SLOflatlander:
all you do is flash from recovery. ie

1. put on root of your sd card

2. boot into recovery

3. go to install zips (from sd card)

4. select file and scroll down to yes and click

5. press reboot

a lot of people highly recommend clearing dalvik cache as well, which can also be done in recovery under advanced
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bui893:
Newb question...

I know this is a terribly newb question, but what are the differences between the two BFS and CFS kernels? I'd preferably like better battery life w/o sacrificing too much performance. Which of the two should I flash?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] oldman_58:
Don't forget to nandroid backup first!!!!!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SLOflatlander:
^ yeah thats definitely more important that clearing dalvik cache haha
[Droid Incredible Android Development] csseale:
Its preference.....i switched to BFS and have never looked back. For me it runs smoother and better battery but like everything, results vary. For the differences I recommend reading the OP.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] csseale:
And a titanium backup...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] oldman_58:
30 hours up hours awake

using e-mails, web browsing phone calls

medium use,

still at 16% charge

BFS#4 rocks...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jlss:
BFS #4 with SR3.1RC3 Sense = doesn't get me fast unrevoked splash. With or without SetCPU installed, same thing. So I'm happy with BFS#3 for now, and looking forward to king's next. :D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Hand76:
I think I am going to go back to Hydras undervolt for now.

My phone keeps slowing down while using Kings kernals over any length of time.

Plus King has not come up with any suggestions or advice (or even acknowledged) the sluggishness some of us are experiencing.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] M4gicM@:
I think I may do the same. How is the battery savings compared to bfs4. Though stability should account for a lot. How stable are hydras?

sent from my Incredible
[Droid Incredible Android Development] fortesquieu:
That's what i did as that was what happened to me too.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Hand76:
I don't want to come down like I am knocking King but so far my phone is running smoother, cooler, and with better battery life with hydras undervolt version.

The only negative is my quad scores went down from around 1600 to 1400 but when my phone is running smoother I am just going to throw Quad scores out the window.

Maybe the problem with kings kernals lies with setcpu but I dunno...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] csseale:
I get the lag also but I usually turn my phone off every night to charge so its rare. If I don't turn it off then yea after about 2 days it all of the sudden comes to an unusable point of major lag. But I work around it because the benefits outway the negatives. But a fix would be appreciated.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] csseale:
And I don't use setcpu.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] thesalg:
I'm on BF# 4, Any way to overclock without using setcpu? I'm used to the hydra kernels where I didnt have to do anything. I'm showing stock speeds for max cpu. Thanks.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jaboswell:
Best battery life I've gotten so far with my dInc....running #4 with skyraider vanilla rc3 SetCPU min 460mhz max.1152mhz...no other profiles.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bast525:
No one else is having issues with the CPU maxing out at random and phone getting very unresponsive?? I tried #4 again, no setcpu at all this time, after 28 hours of uptime it started happening again. That was the shortest uptime yet, before this starts happening, usually its about 40 hours.

I don't have this on the virtuous or hydra kernels.... even after a week of uptime. Drives me nuts, because kings kernel gets such awesome battery life!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] douger1957:
I went to Adrenalyne's custom ROM. It cured the sluggishness...battery's a bit better, but I've only got a couple of charging cycles since I reset the battery stats, so the jury's still out on that.

I'd rather have a smoothly operating phone than killer Linpack and Quadrant scores.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Hand76:
Did you read any of the last 5 pages?

Yes many have reported this including myself. I have since switched to Hydras and the problem seems to be cured so far.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] disciplined:
I was also having major sluggishness with launcherpro and in general with bfs#4. I switched to #2 and the sluggishness is gone but the battery life isnt so hot. Might have to switch to hydra as well.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
Me, too. Gave BFS#4 a test drive over the weekend. Turned out to be a battery-eater for me even when it wasn't over-clocked. Running Virtuous 2.7 with initial 2.15 radio. Back to Adrynalyne's kernal for now.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jumperalex:
It happened to me too, once ... now I'm on something like 80 hours without a slow down. Once at 36 hours I thought it had started but I left it to see what happened. Since then it seems ok. Running Quadrant still gets me 1200-ish first run and 1400-ish second run.

I guess the question is: what happens during a reboot (i.e. cleanup) that might explain this? Is it a memory leak causing us to run out of memory? Are there system files that grow too large for the system to parse through that are purged/rebuilt (dalvik?) during a reboot?

As best I Can recall I did not change any settings or installed apps between my first 40h and my second so I can't offer any advice on a possible conflict there [shrug].
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bast525:
It's not a memory leak. Every time I've noticed this slow down, I opened up System Panel and noticed several things. First, CPU load is pegged at nearly 100%, second, CPU speed is locked at the max speed. Third, there is plenty of free RAM, upwards of 100 MB. Something is causing he CPU to go into overdrive, but looking at the list of apps in System Panel nothing shows as being the culprit
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SLOflatlander:
so the day after i went from #3 to #4 (install went fine btw) i got a random reboot immediately after sending a txt, and the boot took a bit long, then i got a force close/wait message saying that "system" is not responding. then i battery pulled and rebooted again, and it booted up just fine like usual. the only strange thing i noticed was after the reboot it said i had a missed call, so could this have just been caused by the phone recieving a call while halfway booted and not the kernel? and also, since this kernel is based off the newest leak, would it be problematic running it on a rom based off the older (8/1) leak?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] oldman_58:
Did you. clear dalvik cache... try clearing and see if it works, which kernel are u using, try not OC'ING too far

Good luck
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SLOflatlander:
well actually i havent really had a problem with it thus far (other than that stated above) so im assuming it worked. i cleared dalvik before installing #3 but got some weird error message that freaked me out, so i didnt clear before installing #4. it was only a few days after if that matters. and im not overclocked at all; dont even have set cpu installed
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jumperalex:
And apparently I spoke too soon. Got into my car, grabbed my phone (can't take it into office) and bam ... dog slow. I'm back to Hydra. [sigh]
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Aaron1017:
Incredilight doesnt work with this kernel. Force closes!:mad:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SLOflatlander:
the flashlight for switchpro widget works, so maybe you just gotta try reinstalling?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Dmtalon:
I made it to about 39 hours of "awake" time (I don't remember the exact uptime but it was mid 100 (150ish) hours uptime).

Yesterday I had to reboot. The system process was taking up 100% CPU. I did also show the sync icon for part of that, but it did go away before rebooting.

Bringing setcpu up seemed to "free" it for a couple of minutes, however it was quickly back to SUPER SLOW... A reboot fixed me right up.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] roby6298:
Has anybody tried changing cpu scaling from interactive to ondemand. I have a sneaking suspicion that the scaler might be causing a cpu process loop. I switched it yesterday but i have too little uptime to draw any conclusions.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Hand76:
I tried it on every single govenor and it happened on each one.

And like the other poster said going into setcput fixed the problem for a few minutes before it came back.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] roby6298:
Interesting, I had the same cpu pegged problem on Hydra #2 as well. At about 28 hours. Im wondering if its an os problem rather than a kernel problem. How are the other kernels you guys have tried? Im thining of switching to hydra #3 if that locks up at high uptime i might just flash back to stock...

When it slows down the cpu is pegged at full throttle and full load.

At this point im at a loss... i dont want to reboot my phone every day. I rather have stability. I dont want it to lock up one day at full load and drain my battery in an hour.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] apaxi:
King, can you give us any insight into the sluggishness we're seeing after awhile?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Odin2347:
this kernel runs well for a couple hours then slows to a halt and runs like crap forcing a reboot. back to hydra untill this becomes stable
[Droid Incredible Android Development] oldman_58:
19 hours up time

6 hours awake time no unstable issues except when I loaded Angry Birds, seemed to keep the screen always on no matter what I did, so I un-installed Angry Birds

Look to see what programs maybe causing some issues...

I shut down the phone every night, not interested in Phone calls, emails Text or Picture messaging all night long... I do need my beauty sleep (after 58 years has not helped much)

at any rate I sure would like to know what is causing some people slowness and instability.

I am very pleased with Performance and battery life on BFS#4

I still have 10% Battery left

Bob
[Droid Incredible Android Development] roby6298:
I love the performance of these kernels up until the point the CPU goes bonkers and throttles and loads up completely without any user input or any offending program causing the problem.

Of course I shouldn't be complaining. I certainly acknowledge the time and effort and skill king puts into these kernels. And he releases them free of charge to us.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] texanaustinite:
Was running ~40hrs Up Time with no issues yesterday. Then HAD to reboot when I read this: [MOD]ClockworkMod Recovery....on Crack.

:D

Test run was over....:rolleyes:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] grifforama:
so I'm a newbie to the incredible and Im using virtuous with king kernel #2

Not sure if this battery life us decent of not. Fair use during the day. Small amount if mailing minimal internet few widgets pulling data.

Could anyone let me know if this looks good ?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] RPaist:
That doesn't look good. I usually have a little less than double the standby time and an hour more awake time.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] upther:
I was at 15 hours up time and just over 2.5 hours awake time with around 71% battery left before I plugged in last night. That's a pretty average day for me.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] grifforama:
Wow

What the hell am I doing wrong ?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] adamant13247:
So my up time is always good, but anytime I do any heavy use it hardly lasts me 4 hrs and I'm using 1500 mhz htc battery and king #4. Is that normal?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sdorn77:
What part of a battery is measured in mhz?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] clambert11:
I had the same issue. If anything the kernel was worse. I think if you use SetCPU with it and setup a screen off profile you'll notice a difference. For some reason #4 didn't like me too much. I've been using the Virtuous Custom Kernel, which seems more conservative, and it's been more stable for me. I plan on trying some of King's earlier kernels or anything new whrn it's released.

You can pick up SetCPU for free here in XDA.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] adamant13247:
Haha...i meant 1500 mah, but I've used setcpu and it doesn't seem to do anything and it seems to freeze up more than help!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Div033:
Id give the stock speed Hydra kernal a shot. Its undervolted and gives me the best battery life out of any kernal I've used, and I've tried them all. Well, I never tried the overclocked Hydra kernals but I'm not after quadrant scores.

My only gripe is that you can't use set cpu with Hydra, so no screen off profile. This is a shame as I think that saves quite a bit of battery when its asleep. I could be wrong, and the Creator of Hydra kernals certainly didn't think it helped, hence the permanently enabled perflock.

I dont have the link handy and its slightly buried in this forum, but google searching "Hydra incredible kernal" should help :)

Sent from my Droid Incredible running SkyRaider Vanilla 3.0
[Droid Incredible Android Development] adamant13247:
I've tried the hydra overclocked kernels, but not the stock undervolt. I feel they might make my phone lag and be less responsive than the king kernels!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] fortesquieu:
I'm on king #4 and my gps freezes every few seconds.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gmichaelow:
I bet you're a lot like me and surf on 3G a lot?

If possible, try using wifi, it saves a HUGE amount of battery.

Some days, about all I do is push and pull data over 3G and I'm lucky to get 2hrs awake.

But only texts and calls will give me around ~5hours awake.

In short: It's about what you're doing with your phone during that awake time that matters.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Div033:
This. It's a sad truth that makes me a sad panda. Why does 3G eat so much battery? :(

Sent from my Droid Incredible running SkyRaider Vanilla 3.0
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mikesincredible:
Im using hydra with a screen off profile...phone is pretty responsive, no lags yet...virtuous kernel worked well also...but as far as noticing battery life with any kernel...not yet for me.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kingklick:
New kernel coming soon.

More tweaks for longer battery life :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kingklick:
not sure why some users are having issues but all I can say is do not use set cpu

ONLY USE IT TO OC

that is why some of you are not getting good results at all... :(

You are negating the effect of HAVS :(

at any rate, new kernel tomorrow for you all!

More tweaks for battery life :)

EDIT: I also found a major bug in my code. It is now fixed. It was code I left out for HAVS! This should lead to better battery life.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mikesincredible:
I used your kernel 2 bfs for the longest time on virtuous, bat life was ok, it was very stable. Might go back to it. Waiting for the latest release...i use set cpu for the screen off, nothing else. Would u suggest not even using setcpu even for the profile?