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[Epic 4G General] Aridon:
IMO, they both suck. Sense sucks less in that it is more refined but is far more pervasive. You really can't just turn it off as its fully integrated in the os. Touch wiz is easier to just get rid of.
[Epic 4G General] gophergun:
Agreed. Now that applications can integrate accounts into Android, I don't think Sense brings any extra functionality to the table. At least Touchwiz has the power controls on the notification drawer, but I'd have stock Android over either. Pretty much a lose/lose.

If I had to choose to keep one, I suppose I'd say Sense, just because I (perhaps irrationally) enjoy using it more. I do love Sense's weather widget, and I haven't found anything close enough in the Market.
[Epic 4G General] shep211:
Try weather & toggle widget. The default skin sucks but load the htc one and it looks just like htcs. It even has the weather animations. The pic in my profile is my n1 with the weather widget.
[Epic 4G General] gophergun:
The flip clock's fine, but the weather widget looks completely dissimilar.
[Epic 4G General] Aridon:
If you want something exactly like the htc clock widget google "fancy widget"
[Epic 4G General] agonzalez1010:
This is great stuff folks. I really appreciate all the feedback. I am hoping this little "comparasion" thread will help others coming into the EPIC know what they are getting. It's better to hear it from real life users then the tech pundits...

Thanks to all...
[Epic 4G General] entropism:
I'm a big fan of Sense, but really the only thing I'll miss is the clock/weather (I alreeady have the weather toggle widget) and the HTC calendar, which I think is the perfect calendar widget. I was using Pure Calendar widget, but it didn't fit my needs as well as the HTC one did.
[Epic 4G General] Dman10:
The main reason that someone wouldn't like Touchwiz is because they're so used to Sense. It's just like going from iPhone to Android. The person that's used to the iPhone would prefer the iPhone over an Android phone, and vice versa.
[Epic 4G General] rasstar:
They both come with the same stock music player.
[Epic 4G General] sevenvt:
I came from my touch 3g.. On att so no 3g and it was my first android experience. I was sold within a week then waited for captivate to come out to use my upgrade. Never going back. Sense vs touchwiz is moot if you actually plan on using all the great upgrades in these forums. Stock stuff can and usually should be replaced even if its super duper pretty. Set priorities on hardware.
[Epic 4G General] Eazail70x7:
For those who are coming from sense and love the weather and clock widget, google "fancy widget". Its an exact duplicate. If you miss the other widgets from sense like the bookmarks, calander, people, etc., Launcher Pro has your back there. It is bringing all the sense ui goods
[Epic 4G General] TripleAgent:
I'm coming from WinMo 6.5. I liked Sense, but are Sense, TouchWiz, etc. really even needed? I played with the Android port to WM, and IIRC, you can install widgets and such on top of stock Android. Just wondering if there would be more benefit to just rooting and getting that off the phone period.
[Epic 4G General] gophergun:
Absolutely not, in the end they add very little in the way of functionality, though at least Touchwiz attempts to with 5.1 sound and the power control shortcuts in the notification bar.
[Epic 4G General] notoriouspyro:
Coming from sense I actually 86'd it and went with launcherpro instead on my Evo. I'll prolly do that too on the Epic. Already tried it on my boss's demo Epic and it's a million times better than Touch Wiz.
[Epic 4G General] TripleAgent:
Thank you.
[Epic 4G General] ravizzle:
I have a hero and though sense looks nice out really slowed my phone down. I removed sense and went the way of launcher pro with weather and toggle widget and its much better and just as visually appealing, plus weather and toggle widget has many skins for their flipclock so you can make it real customizable
[Droid X General] drew630:
Just saw this at mydroidworld

http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/...st-here-ready-less-than-24-hrs.html#post27391

Froyo soon!
[Droid X General] Mayfairkid:
so is this a hack or an OTA???? IM EXCITED!!!
[Droid X General] drew630:
I assume a hack using the new recovery from Koush
[Droid X General] sp1kez:
2.2 kernel?
[Droid X General] drew630:
Doesn't say. I hope
[Droid X General] cbaty08:
Doesn't Koush or someone have a dev 2.2 X already that they are probably pulling it from?

Or is this 2.2 in the next 24 supposed to be stock?
[Droid X General] mattyboy1013:
froyo has a new kernel, and koush's recovery doesnt support kernels, so it will probably be an upddate zip similar to the manual update process from the d1
[Droid X General] drew630:
It is not the recovery that does not support kernel, but rather the bootloader wont boot an unapproved kernel. so if the 2.2 kernel is included and the bootloader verifies it then it will be fine.

I do not think this is stock 2.2 i assume it is from the dev phone
[Droid X General] cbaty08:
Thanks for the reply, drew.

That doesn't make me too unhappy really. As much as I like to customize/tweak my X just like the next, I do not find blur and city i.d. as objects that really stand in the way to achieve great performance...

Although stock 2.2 would be saweet.
[Droid X General] mazz0310:
From what they are saying it is not from the Dev phone, P3Droid has someone in the know that they purchase leaks from, and this is on of them...it does not have to do with the Dev phone.
[Droid X General] iamrobk:
Yeah that's what it seems like to me, too. Probably still a beta build and not the final, but whatever I'll take it.
[Droid X General] Enndr:
I'm calling bull****. Just like the DInc rumor. I'll believe it when I hear an official communication or receive the OTA update request on my phone.

These "rumors" are starting to get old. Its just phone nerds trying to be relevant and important on the interwebs.
[Droid X General] Cipherpunk:
The thread clearly indicates that this is not the official OTA update. This is supposed to be a leaked release of the froyo update. But by all means, go ahead and wait for your official announcement.
[Droid X General] Rapid23234:
Im ready if this is real we can finally show what the droid x is finally about
[Droid X General] hijackerjack:
Not Koush, Erron from AllDroid has one.
[Droid X General] TacomaStud:
The difference here is that the other rumor was started by a clueless Verizon rep who thought the Droid 2.2 update was for the Droid Incredible.
[Droid X General] Blade765:
The dev phone has 2.2.1 on it. This is 2.2.6. This is a new build, straight from P3's source. This is gonna be good. :-)
[Droid X General] arpanetguru:
One of the smartest things i've read yet in a forum. What happened to the good ol IRC days. There are so many kiddies now spreading rumors and rooting there phone, they probably don't even know what exactly a kernel is, just the term. Please if anyone knows where the devs chat, point me in the right direction.
[Droid X General] cbaty08:
hahaha... 10...
[Droid X General] sp1kez:
That whole dev phone fiasco was a scam by alldroid, they have done basically ZERO with it
[Droid X General] Breakthecycle2:
Please explain that one??
[Droid X General] shaneaus:
Don't THINK you know what you are talking about. Birdman (Alldroid staff) contacted Koush to provide the basics to the exploit Koush used to make recovery work!

Stop trying to create drama. Most ALL of the devs on the various forums cooperate and assist other devs when possible.

The 2.2 update on the other site appears to be a leak of the official update.

Birdman is also working on a port of Froyo from the dev device.
[Droid X General] shaneaus:
Also, agree with the rumor comments. Just wait for something to happen. Believe it when I see it.
[Droid X General] Breezer23:
All I know is you're negative comments are going to make any progress come any sooner....
[Droid X General] Ezun:
Thanks to P3Droid and Birdman:

Froyo for the X..have fun http://bit.ly/bCOjM9
[Droid X General] oldmacnut:
I just did the update. Phone was stock.

I rooted right before updating.

Last night Quadrant gave me 1170 running Launcher Pro, just now I got 1354 running MotoBlur. Will run again when I put Launcher Pro back on. Still seems laggy like before, but I am rooted and am 2.2

Again, for simplicity sake.....

Was Stock.

Did 1 Click Root

Rebooted.

Shut Down.

Booted into Stock Recovery

Applied Update

Rebooted.

Done.
[Droid X General] den0ts:
We have a few devs/hackers in #android on efnet. Come check us out.
[neoTouch S200 General] sonde_25:
heloo help me please im tired of searching rom to flash my acer f1 please somebody help me to find some.. those with out bug.. and please give link to download any kind of costumized im very thankful.. and please give some procedure in how to flash any software to be used,.... thnks to everry one
[neoTouch S200 General] kelvin.wlin:
There is not perfect Rom.

I use Arto's Rom, This is the very good rom and working stable in my s200.
[neoTouch S200 General] slash_5150:
dont be lazy. search the forums or google it.
[neoTouch S200 General] pongothemagnificent:
No rom on this earth is free of bugs or issues, not even OEM roms, i would suggest flashing all the roms available for the s200 and from there deside which one is the right for you...also next time use the forums search function to find flashing guides/roms for your s200.

Rafyvitto
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] MacaronyMax:
Hello :D

Here is my peanutbutter jelly time kid bootscreen i just made :D i hope you like it :D and if you can't tell i was very bored :p :D

Use adb to push it to /system/media/ or use anddroid commander and push it :D

Thanks :D

(i apoligise for the large file size i use adobe fireworks and it leaves extra things in the picture making it more memory (something like that anyway :p)

bootanimation.zip
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] shelnes:
What about...

...a preview of it?
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] sebxd:
LOL

Funny but i don't really like it sorry :$
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] MacaronyMax:
it's okay :D i don't use it i use siesuredroid just thought it might be funny :p :D :D :D

umm... i dont know how to make gif images out of stil's sorry
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] Deleted member 2500726:
Your missing an option in the poll: "It's peanut butter jelly time" xD
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] MacaronyMax:
hehe oops yeah :p:D
[Streak 5 General] undrwater:
Using the same linux (gentoo) install, I have been able to access several android devices. Unfortunately this is not the case with the Streak.

Is there a different tool specific to the Streak? (The only download I could find from Dell is the windows PC Suite). Another of these forums stated that for windows, Dell's specific program allowed adb access.

Any hints?

US at&t running 1.6
[Streak 5 General] fards:
I'm using adb from the latest sdk.

What does lsusb say is connected?

For fastboot commands I have to use -i 0x413c as an identifier..
[Streak 5 General] undrwater:
I had an earlier version of adb. With the latest version (1.0.26) I can see the Streak.

Thanks for posting back.
[Windows Mobile] DaReDeViL:
Hello,

I'm cooking for topaz 6.5.3 roms build 23128 with a mix of topaz, rhodium and oboe packages. I've managed to solve a lot of problems and everything works well now except one thing : VIDEO TELEPHONY doesn't work !!!!

I'm actually using those packages :

Phone_Canvas_Enhancement_5_0_61220152721_0

Video_Telephony_3_0_38566_0

WITH NO SUCCESS !!!! I've searched a lot in xda and mobileunderground and didn't find any solution, or maybe I missed it ;)

Please, can anyone help me ?
[Windows Mobile] DaReDeViL:
up ! still no idea ???
[Windows Mobile] SiemensLover:
Waht do u mean exactly with "VIDEO TELEPHONY doesn't work !!!!"

can u plz explain more?

And r u sure that ur Cell Provider support video telephony for ur line? r ur network settings correct?

WBR

Siemens Lover
[Windows Mobile] DaReDeViL:
siemenslover : I do have a subscription to 3g service and the stock rom allows me to make videocalls. But my cooked rom always fails to dial any number in video mode (3g) !!!
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sandeep.bajaj20:
hey guys,

plz tell me how can i install apps in my storage card instead of phone memory as there are lots of apps n games & secondly which pc suit is made for sync of nexus one with pc suit????
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jack_R1:
1) Search "Apps2SD".

2) There is none. Nexus syncs with Google cloud.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crypt0kiddie:
Question About unrEVOked Forever and the S Protection on/off....

Is there any reason to actually use it? My phones fully rooted, NAND is unlocked etc so do I really need it? I mean I know I can do everything I need to do now but what was the purpose of turning S Protect on and off? I read the thread, I saw what it said about being able to flash official updates but then still being able to go back to rooted ones but WHY is this important?

I'm just trying to understand WHY I may or may not want to do this and what ill affects it might have down the road.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kaediil:
Unrevoked currently permanently unlocks/roots the phone. While it is conceivable that Sprint/HTC might patch this exploit in the future, the prevailing sentiment is that they won't because it would break the legitimate Evo engineering phones.

What it does is unlock the phone at a level below the radio and normal hboot/rom process. So, if you take an OTA update in the future, you may lose root on that new rom, but you will still be unlocked and so can reinstall the custom recovery and root.

This currently is a permanent unlock with no known way to relock it and no promise/guarantee that it will ever be reversible. So, you have permanently voided your warranty for the ability to hopefully never lose root in the future.

-frank
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crypt0kiddie:
So what your saying is... If I ever need to file an insurance claim on my phone, it's best that it falls into a lake. :D

Here is another question then.

Can Sprint/HTC force an OTA on you that would kill the current root? If not then there really isn't any reason to use unrEVOked right now for me, I know not to take official OTA's. I know it would have been handy for some people, the ones who took the official OTA 2.2 like idiots because they couldn't wait. Look what being impatient got them! I knew when it dropped it was bad news. Hell, I'm still on Fresh Rom 1.0.1 (Eclair 2.1, if it isn't broken, don't fix it. You know what I mean?

Well, I DID try a couple rooted 2.2 ROMS but I knew to wait is what I was saying. Being in a rush can come back to bit you in the ass sometimes, like it did for some many. Guess my only concern is forced updating by Sprint. Never heard of such a thing but you never know. If that was even a remote possibility, turning the protection lock off could be a good thing I guess.
[HD2 General] logcomptechs:
Just got a HTC HD2 a week ago, been playing with ROMs since I got it and having a blast doing it. I was noticing that things are extremely unorgainized when trying to find the ROMs, where to download them (also having to download them off the free mirrors), what exactly changed, etc...

Was thinking of building a website, where all the cookers can upload their ROMs, provide a change log for each individual ROM, be able to display the different versions of their ROM. Provide details about their ROM (look, functionality, etc...). Then in each cookers section, people can post comments / questions for that individual ROM. I tried providing more details below of how the structure would work.

For the break down of content management I was thinking:

PHONE MODEL > COOKER / ROM > LANGUAGE > ROM VERSION > ROM DOWNLOAD

Phone Model - For now I would just be doing the HTC HD2, but if this caught on, would be up for doing more phones.

Cooker / Rom - This would be area for the cooker to show off his / her ROM, with pictures, description, anything else they want to say. This would also be the area where people can post questions / comments, that would be easily responded to by the cooker or another user.

Language - Notice that lots of cookers like to create their ROMs in different languages, this way, it is very easy to find the ROM in your language.

Rom Version - Display all the versions of that ROM in that Language

Rom Download - Change log for that specific Rom Version would be displayed and allow you to download the ROM (I would be hosting the website, so everyone would just be directly downloading off the website, no mirrors, etc...).

Like I said, it is just a idea. Let me know what you think!
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
i don't mean to be instantly negative, but it gets talked about every few months, and a few people even make a start(have a look through the regular hd2 section, theres at least one rom index project, possibly two,complete with little-used websites.)

problem is you need to get all the chefs on board, and most of them just don't care for the extra time and work involved.

best of luck, none the less. :)
[HD2 General] logcomptechs:
I would be doing all the work. the chefs would really be uploading the roms and change log that's about it.
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
as i said, best of luck, it would indeed be usefull, im just passing on my experience of these type of projects. :)

(another point to consider is that quite a few of these roms have been downloaded hundreds of thousands of times, , at around 200meg each, can your server manage that? at a speed that people will be OK with? day in day out? you can bet that right this second as i type, there are probably a dozen downloads happening, thats a gig and a half, concurrently.... thats a lot of bandwidth)
[HD2 General] logcomptechs:
yeah totally get what you mean. reason why I posted this to see if the cookers would even want to do this before I did all this work.

the bandwidth would be no problem, think I should just post this under windows development?
[HD2 General] amneris1:
I totally agree and am willing to help!
[HD2 General] logcomptechs:
Thanks, you have any knowledge in HTML / CSS / PHP / MySQL? Not going to start on the project, unless I can at least get a handful of cookers who are at least willing to just upload the ROMs to the server. I would be even willing to go as far as to get all the initial content up for the ROM, then hopefully the cookers would just upload new ROMs and submit a change log for that ROM version. The backend I would be creating for this website, will be very easy to use, and really would not take them much time.

But the biggest thing is getting them on board, see if any post in this thread.
[HD2 General] kevinfromchinatown:
great idea

I also think that having a website to organize these roms out there is a great idea. It can be very handy for new users who want to try out different alternatives with hd2. I think everyone including the experienced users would like to just go to one place for downloads and check out new updates. if you had the website done, everyone from this forum will check it out since we don't see much over here (we do have some threads about rom, but its just links to other thread, not organized enough). I will be very happy if someone like you can build a website for these roms.
[HD2 General] logcomptechs:
Yeah, was also thinking of allowing users to subscribe to ROMs they like, so when a cooker releases a new version of their ROM, they would get a email, letting them know a new version is out!

Just to try to get the ball rolling on this, going to just ask the cookers just to upload their ROMs to my server and that is all. I will pull all the other information myself, at least for now, see how well it catches on.
[HD2 General] NRGZ28:
There's already pretty good sites for that.. www.xda-roms.com and xdaroms.com !
[HD2 General] logcomptechs:
xdaroms.com does not seem to bad, but they don't even have up to date roms, very cluttered website, etc... was going for most up to date rom / extremely clean / easy to use website.
[HD2 General] KT:
I think this is a great idea... kudos n all the support to you... i have been driving myself crazy trying to sift through the threads n get a sense of what's what... we should totally factor in the time line of releases to make informed decisionmaking easier..

also, speaking of, anybody knows which thread has the best(stable+complete) version of android for the tmous hd2? not that i havent searched but the results of search are quite overwhelming to an extent they act as a deterrent for me to try some rom that might brick my phone.
[HD2 General] logcomptechs:
Now that I have the support of some of the cookers, going to go ahead start on the project, will keep everyone updated!
[HD2 General] gprash:
Sounds great ... I wish I could help but I really do not know anything about websites/html and such stuff :P

But just wanted to let you know that this is a good idea and such a website is definitely much needed with so many ROMs out there ...
[HD2 General] lukedunk:
I like the idea, and hope it works well for you! You are probably already aware, but just thought I'd point out that there are chefs out there who don't post on xda. Ark_N is one that comes to mind over at htcpedia dot com. I'm sure people know of others??
[HD2 General] mrkevinhall:
http://htcpedia.com/

its already done my friend
[HD2 General] Darmitage82:
Really looking forward to how this turns out...thank you for taking the time to do this.
[HD2 General] bowpay:
If you like to see something change on XdaRoms.com let me know. I am also looking for help in getting the word out. HtcPedia doesn't allow you to really search through roms. A lot of chefs there repost over an old post so if you enjoyed an older rom better than the new one you can no longer find it. With XdaRoms.com I wanted the ability to have all versions of a rom available to search through. I also have the ability for Chefs to add a template to their account which you can generate a complete forum post based on a rom by just clicking a button. From there you can copy and paste the forum post and you don't have to write out the same stuff each time. The issue you will run into is mass adoption as others have pointed out. If you really want to help out and make things easier you should use what I have already created and pitch in to make it better.
[HD2 General] wootty2000:
Sorry to drag up an old thread

I started XDA-Roms.com a while back, because I wanted to learn PHP and also to give people an alternate to RapidShare etc. While I was fairly sucessful in learning PHP, I really do not like the code at all, and need to start again fresh, probably in ASP

I have seen a few of my ideas end up on other ROM sites, which is cool becauase we are all here for the same reason, XDA ROMs.

Unfortunatly, since I started XDA-Roms.com, my work pattern changed and I have not be able to spare the time to keep the site up to date (code or ROMs). Hopefully, I will re-write the site soon-ish and allow chefs to upload their own ROMs (the user interface is there, just not the backend upload code).

In an ideal world, I guess all the ROM sites would end up with the same ROMs, just presented to the viewers in different ways. Personally, im not looking for graphics on my site, just all the ROMs

With all this being said, if there are some ROMs people want uploading, PM me and I will upload them.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andy_fozzy:
Hi all.

I have just bought a second hand HD2, and LOVE IT so far!

In my car I have a little box plugged into the stereo with a 3.5 headphone socket on the end, which makes my car stereo think that there is a CD changer installed, which I used to run my iPhone on.

This used to double up as a handsfree, and I could have a conversation through the stereo and iPhone, then put the music back on without changing any leads or settings etc.

This isn't happening on the HD2 :(

Is there a way I can get back to doing this???

Would be a major blow if I couldn't, as I travel allot and use both the music and phone allot in the car.

Cheers
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andy_fozzy:
can anyone help me,please??