yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ttownfeen:
First, X'ing out of a program in WM does not shut it down...it keeps running in the background. Some programs have built in shut down options, but most of the time you have to use a task manager.

Likewise, in Android, as far as I know, pressing the home key lets you exit a app but it keep running in the background unless you shut it down with an app killer. Some apps have built-in shutdown options.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zelendel:
Ok guys lets not turn this into a my OS is better then yours is thread. Both of them have their pluses and negs, while I use use WM for everything work related I also use Android for messing around and games so to me each has its place.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pychobj2001:
Why is this thread even here this should be in general questions...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zelendel:
It is here because we do not have an android general forum set up yet, But the great joshkoss has been working on trying to get it set up.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] fuzzysig:
alarming is the fact that winmo is installed onto consumer phones that are meant for general public

not everyone wants to learn how to edit their registry to make a feature work

some people actually want to use the phone once in a while u know...

but in windows you can enable a program to be terminated by holding the x button
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] random_username_:
I agree with you to a degree. Winmo is better for users that know (and enjoy) how to tweak their devices (which usually isnt the average user) however it is still perfectly usable with no tweaks applied (albeit not as good as when they are). You are exagerating when you say that the phone is unuseable without tweaks because i used mine for a few weeks with no tweaks whatsoever and i am sure many others here did too and the phone was fully functional. Just because you prefer android to winmo dosent make it any better (for the record i prefer android too)

For the answer to youe x button question see here - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=755504
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] fuzzysig:
I was never an android fan. I never used Android until yesterday. Nd even with this beta build is more stable and easier to use than winmo. First time sinnce I got this phone I didnt have to soft reset the phone for almost a day.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] 11calcal:
Not to sound funny but the 2 above posts are stating winmo is so good, yet your replies are sent from android ports??
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] poweroutlet:
So I've used winmo for a bit, and when I do finally (hopefully) flash android onto my phones nand, I don't even want to loose winmo, I really would like to keep winmo as well because it is a decent OS, not as terrible as many make it sound, it is usable for sure.

However, lets not kid ourselves, it's no match for android. Winmo is an aging OS, and it makes that obvious. Android just feels so seamless and so optimized for mobile devices.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] fuzzysig:
kinda what i was trying to say but with many more words:)

anyone still use DOS?

but i was hoping to get more answers related to android questions i had and not to bring about another thread with winmo vs android.

theres no doubt android is better suited for mobile, although windows has the ability to copy delete and do many more low level operations from the phone, thats why im thinking abotu keeping this phone as well and hope that we can make a true dual boot phone so i can run a clean android boot and clean winmo boot.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chelsea19:
Why was this OS released with so little support for basic functions up to standard of the current operating systems on the market. And why is it supported so heavily with these basic functions missing from the start?
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ericFuels999:
Could you be more specific? Define "basic functions".
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bftb0:
Here's a better question: why is this posted in an Eris forum, if it is a generic question about Android?

Don't feed the trolls!
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ericFuels999:
On second thought...yours is the better question! Haha.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tboibes:
Hi everybody,

there is something very strange with my HD2 (Orange FR) :

before I'm sure that there was the icon "3G" on the top right corner of the phone while I could connect to the 3G and then when I connected (to download the weather for instance) where was a second icone 3G with the antenna.

While I go in vacation in the south of France, I didn't see any more the second icon on the antenna. Maybe I make a mistake and I dreamed and I've never seen the second icon 3G with the antenna before... that's why I said "maybe" in the title :).

To be sure I made speed test with a web site (I didn't find a tool for Win6.5 such like there is on android).

Download speed : 377 kbps

Upload speed : 420 kbps

Firstly, I'm surprised that the upload is greater than the download. I tried two times to be sure.

My package (Orange) allow me to use 3G+ but it is not always available at my location (not in a big town).

Please, could you indicate if there is a problem with my HD2 or if I could act on a specific setting or if I'm wrong and all is OK ? I tried to find the official/real speed of E, H, 3G 3G+ but I didn't find it.

I tried to change the radio : 2.10.50.28 and 2.12.50.02 under NetDrj ROM.

Now my config : Radio 2.11.50.26 and last Chucky ROM

Nothing changed with my new config.

Notice that I could go on internet with my phone, download weather etc.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Thomas
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tboibes:
Resolved

I continued to search for answers to my problem, and finally I found :

http://htc-touch-diamond.forumactif...ctivesync-usb-f21/edge-3g-3g-resolu-t5370.htm

(in french)

Now I'm sure I made a mistake and I'd never seen the icon "3G" more the antenna...

For Orange FR there is no more simple "3G". All the network is on HSPDA and "H" is indicated on the HD2. If someone as more information he can post on this thread.

Thanks !
[Off-topic] chelsea19:
Doesn't anyone find it odd that we are paying out huge sums of cash for a Linux based OS that is free to use?
[Off-topic] mrbishi:
Because the cost of the handset doesn't factor into it at all :face palms:
[Off-topic] chelsea19:
I mean they handed us a broken toy and we fixed it for them with no pay and they sold it back to us as an update, now we are fixing it up more. Hopefully when Android 114.6 rolls out some devs. will for a union of some kind and make some cash from big business instead of settling for the 2.99 that their brothers and sisters are downloading.
[Off-topic] Kiserai:
Next time put the bong down and think before posting.

Here's your basic argument in another context:

The internet is free so why do we spend so much money on computers to browse web pages?

You fail. Thanks for playing.
[Off-topic] androidlicious:
But no one asked you to fix it...?
[Off-topic] chelsea19:
Oh, no kidding, I had totally forgotten that hardware costs money somewhere on the road to neverland .

Compare prices for free vs paid OS on the same specs. Shouldn't there be a decent difference between the two?
[Off-topic] chelsea19:
True but shouldn't the devs. get what they deserve?
[Off-topic] bcpk:
And the hurr durr thread of the day goes to-
[Off-topic] chelsea19:
You fail, pretty damn horribly when you buy computers specifically, I have bought every computer I have ever owned without an OS and it has been cheaper than one with it.
[Off-topic] Crotchety:
OK this whole line of "logic" is just not workin. You might wanna cut bait on this one.:rolleyes:
[Off-topic] chelsea19:
Ok we whatever, I just got an Android phone and I hate it so I'm gonna get something windows. This is my first experience with Linux on a handset and if the developers wanna get screwed let them, forming union isn't hard we did it where I work, well we joined one but it makes everything a dev does worth money. Good way to make a living.
[Off-topic] chelsea19:
And another person is born that we all would have been better of without.
[Off-topic] Crotchety:
But who is it that decides the devs have been screwed. Is it you? I think that honor goes to each individual who bought the phone. You don't get to determine that someone else has been screwed just because your panties are in a bunch over something related to your phone.
[Off-topic] mrbishi:
The cost of a non open source operating system on a phone is going to be so heavily subsidized, I'd be surprised if the additional cost was more than a couple of dollars/pounds/whatever. Bottom line is that you're just paying for the device whichever route you take.

Also consider how long android has been out, it is definitely the quickest maturing mobile platform around. Anyone remember the state wm was in at this age?

Edit: I think the developers would rather be "screwed" as you put it in order to bring about progress in a timely manner. That's what open source is all about!

Sent from my Toaster using voodoo
[Off-topic] chelsea19:
Well said, I see and understand your point, thanks.
[Off-topic] Kiserai:
First off, that's a toaster I want.

Second off, you're absolutely right. It's not about the money, it's about taking your phone to the next level and being able to say you were the one who got it there first. I and thousands of others have nothing but respect for these developers and a lot of us give them both props and donations for their work. I'm sure the donations are nice, but I doubt there are many devs on XDA who started writing ROMs and compiling kernels because they thought it would make them rich.

Don't understate the motivational power of random people coming into your thread to say "Your work is awesome, keep it up, and how cool would it be if it did this too?" For some people the respect is all they need, since genuine respect can't be bought, it can only be earned.
[Off-topic] lonelykatana:
Wow, someone is either grumpy or cant take a joke...:confused::p

You'd expect to pay money for a computer with no OS wouldnt you...

Well the same goes in this case my guessing.

Id rather have 1000's of people thanking me for my work than a few £100 in the bank if i was a dev....
[Off-topic] nrfitchett4:
WOW. if you think unions are the answer, you have bigger problems than just android.
[Off-topic] Original Android <3ers!:
OMG guys I was scrolling and I thought I saw Llama's picture. ='[
[Off-topic] Shum97:
Lol..same here:)
[HTC Vox] rohit330:
Hey all....

After a lot of attempts, i finally got the correct way to set this.. :) Posting it here for those who are trying..

(BSNL South Setting)

My ROM Version

WM6.5_CLEAN_3.0

Go to

start ->

Settings->Connections->GPRS->Menu->Add

Description : bsnlwap

Connects to : Work

Access point : bsnlwap

username : empty

password : empty

Authentication type : none

primary dns : empty

secondary dns : empty

IP Address : 10.220.67.131

select done.

Then goto settings->connections->proxy ->menu->add

Description : bsnl wap proxy internet

connects from : work

connects to: wap network

proxy (name: port) : 10.220.67.131:8080

type: http

username : empty

password : empty

select done.

Then open internet explorer ->menu-> tools->options->connections->

uncheck automatically detect settings

Select Network : WAP Network.

Click done.

Voila! Reboot the phone.

Then take IE, Start browsing!!!! :)
[HTC Vox] rajanlive:
mybsnlgprs.co.cc here you can get new bsnl wap settings
[HTC Vox] Hakim Rahman:
try to wear SummaryUtilitySP2 kapu! so you do not have to set up some complicated GPRS connection on yourphone kapu try to use SummaryUtilitySP2 or LeSScro Network Wizard !!! so you do not have to set up some complicated GPRS connection on your phone :D:D if you managed to buy me a cup of coffee
[HTC Vox] rohit330:
These links are there in bsnl portal also.. It wont work for HTC.. Sad thing is bsnl customer care people dont know abt HTC :( They will ask is that any chinese local phone :@
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] qqqwqqq:
Is it possible to Install any Android build on the HD2 without SD card?

just like a ROM ?

POSSIBLE or IMPOSSIBLE ?:confused::confused::confused:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] qqqwqqq:
BUMP

BUMPppPPpPpp
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] esteho:
Not yet possible... check back later
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] v-b-n:
You have to be patient and always read the first few threads (Sticky or not)... this is not a Q/A forum... try to read through

Anyways, for your question the answer is "for now" all builds run through SD Card until the devs start including nand (internal storage) support in the kernel (not anytime soon)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zarathustrax:
No, currently it only runs from sd card. You could've gotten your answer a lot quicker by doing a little bit of searching and reading rather than starting a new thread.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Ultimaex:
No idea why nobody is answering?

Just use the search button or look some older threads.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] qqqwqqq:
sowie~ and thx for the answers
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] drussthelegend:
Hey to all Mini/Mini Pro onwer.

I have settled on the Mini Pro as my next phone, but some (not all) reviews in Tech websites mentions "...On the other end of the lineIn, however, clarity was much worse, and the other party said our voice was muffled and unclear, although the volume stayed decent..." [phonearena]

Also gsmarena mentions "...There’s still a chance that you might cover the mic pinhole with your finger,..."

So my question is, because of the small size of the phone and the relative distance of the mic from the mouth; can the other party understand us? Is it possible that the reviewer unknowingly covered the mic pinhole? I am asking because of the majority of reviews gave favorable rating to the call quality...except some...:confused:

Next; what is the capacity of the battery included with the phone. Some people says 930 mA while other claims 970 mA. Are they shipping different capacity for different parts of the world?

Lastly, I live in the Middle East; we are, like, the last part of the world to receive any new tech. Like Google have not yet OFFICIALLY release Android Marketplace. So all Android phone officially released in our region do not have Marketplace access. But, phones sold in the "grey market", which most probably are purchased in other parts of the world, have Marketplace access. I was looking to purchase the phone from a legit business, as they offer warranty unlike the "grey market", so I wont have access. Apparently, Andriod Marketplace is not pre-installed.

Can you tell me what are my options?
[XPERIA X10 General] the_ahmadzais:
Please post your X10 Home Screens in this thread.

Please also state the names of any apps or widgets that appear on your homescreens. If your using an alternative launcher also let us know. if anyone is using launch-x pro please post the pictures. Thanks
[XPERIA X10 General] hush66:
There's already such a thread to be found here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=713391
[XPERIA X10 General] the_ahmadzais:
thanks :) i knew it was there but couldnt find it
[General Topics] iK11:
I got hold of a new HD2.. so what now? any tips? Oh and will it upgrade to W7 phone? i heard u can run android? how?
[General Topics] Mr. Clown:
Hi and welcome to the forums, your questions can be answered better if you visit the device forum http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=531. I will strongly recommend you to take your time to read and also searching the possible questions that you might have.

I hope that helps,
[General Topics] duke911:
Go here, you'll find most of the stuff that you need

http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=531

There is no WP7 upgrade at the moment, there will no official upgrade at all. maybe after the first WP7 devices roll out, we'll hopefully start seeing some WP7 ROMs, but for now, you are stuck with WM6.5
[Vibrant General] Arcadia310:
After having the Vibrant for a few weeks I simply got fed up with the sluggish UI always lagging, having hiccups and all the latter. I know the phone is better than this (how can my old MyTouch Slide be performing way better?) so I went ahead and rooted.

Before this I would come on XDA and be overwhelmed by the development forums. The terms were so foreign like it's own language. Now I'm getting used to it and can root a Vibrant in under a minute. Very simple procedure.

My first real problem came with the lagfix. At first I could not get RyanZA's fix to work. I thought maybe I did something wrong or my device was faulty. So I tried the update.zip method and it didn't work either. I reset my phone to factory settings, re-rooted, and would come back to the lagfix later.

I came back to the forums today and decided I would try the lagfix again. This time I was more calm and was less overwhelmed thank god. The reason it didn't work the first time was because I didn't have the drivers installed. I went ahead and installed those, as well as Kies (this isn't needed for the lagfix though). After installing the drivers the script worked perfectly. However the script only worked if the phone wasn't mounted, if it was the script would not work, kinda odd but its alright with me lol.

I quickly rebooted and ran quadrant, scored a 2140 baby! Whoooo. There is almost no lag on my phone now. This was my biggest concern was how the phone was so sluggish, now everything is instant and snappy. Really happy with the development of this thing. I feel accomplished now haha. :D

---

Any how, I'm still very new to the development scene and have some questions.

What is a kernel? How is it different from a rom? Is it good to overclock?

What is ODIN and what does it do? What is ADB? Someone told me to input something in ADB but I don't know what it is.

Also how can you overclock a phone to run at 1.2ghz if the hardware was designed at 1ghz? Can't this make the phone blow up? (no sarcasm)

Now that I've rooted now do I remove the bloatware on the phone? I don't want to install any roms yet until cyanogen or another rom comes out that is easier to install and less harmful to the phone.

Thanks in advance!
[Vibrant General] Calcvictim:
WTF....text inside quotes doesn't count
[Vibrant General] zephiK:
Read the stickied post. 90% of the questions you're asking are answered there.
[Vibrant General] Arcadia310:
If ODIN was created by samsung why is it so hard to connect it to your phone?
[Vibrant General] Arcadia310:
I downloaded Astro. For some reason I can't even find the .apk file to uninstall the Sims. I tried to uninstall apps like Kindle and Slacker and it wouldn't let me. I thought having superuser permissions would allow me to remove any app from the phone?
[Vibrant General] robavila721:
Use titanium back up to remove those apps.
[Vibrant General] Arcadia310:
Thanks! That app worked! I removed a crap ton of bloatware. Only problem now is that I get a force close error when the phone boots up from an app I removed, how do I regulate which apps open when the phone is turned on?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone Q&A, Help & Troublesh] botakbotak:
Hello, i'm new to this forum, i would like to thank you for taking your time to help me out.

First, i had a clean Starhub 2.1 android running milestone with update1, i flashed the G.O.T open recovery's of STAR_36_GOT_SERVICE.sbf to my phone, follow up by, opening the recovery mode and open the G.O.T open recovery's thru the updates.zip as instructed. After that i rooted the phone with the options there. after rebooting my phone and ensure that superuser is already there. i when back to the recovery menu and flashed the fastlightrom v2a, after indicating that it is done, i reboot the system and check the free space in setting it was 164mb or somewhere near there. With this and i went back to the recovery menu and went to the app2sd hack menu and split my sd card, i chosen the 8gb one, which create 1gb ext2 if i am not wrong, after the process is done, i went to install app2sd symlik edition, everything went smoothly and i reboot the phone and check the space again, it had 194mb ( Oh yeah ! ) Does this mean that app2sd had sucessfully installed to my phone?

To ensure that it is, i went ahead and install program like launcherpro, msntalk , and so on. i found out that , my memory had began to drop to 189mb, nevertheless so had sdcard. My Sdcard display a maximum of 6.9xgb of space, which means the sd card split was a sucess right? My worried start here, am i safe to say that the others programs that i am going to install from now on would be install to my sd instead?

I also found out that my current cpu freq was 1000mhz , by using android system info found in the market, i went to download the overclocking widget, i manage to tweak here and there and revert it back to 550mhz, so am i on the safe track that i did not hurt my phone in any way or other?

- Went to the recovery menu and clock it to 650mhz instead. solved?

Any kind soul could enlighten me with some good advices or config? i was temp to install the app2sd provided by dsixda's post when i post my enquire there.

And also, it seem that all my .apk that require root installation when i download them from the internet, i found out that it had become a zip file instead, with this i am unable to install it thru adb install right?

Thanks for taking your time to read this message, please give your advises, Sorry for my bad english.

Solved my doubts thanks.
[Captivate General] jasonxh:
Rather than making a loopback filesystem, I've been trying to reformat the data partition as ext4, but haven't been able get past the galaxy "S" screen yet (the big S on boot). Here's what I did

* Compile a kernel with ext4 and modified init.rc to mount /data as ext4.

* Reboot into recovery and format /dev/block/mmcblk0p2 as ext4.

* Reboot into download and flash the custom kernel.

It was stuck at "S" for a while, then the screen went dark, and the only thing I could do was to pull out the battery. Then I went into recovery mode and found the partition was trashed, i.e. I couldn't mount it as ext4 again. I had to format it back to rfs and restore the stock kernel to get it to boot. I have to believe that there's something other than init.rc that assumes data partition to be in a certain format. Has anyone had success on a similar task?

BTW, the same process DID work for /dbdata, but I see no visible improvement in Quadrant score...
[Captivate General] Unhelpful:
I has a similar thing occur on my first attempt with nilfs2. Did you remove anything that would attempt to mount as rfs? I think the rfs driver will claim pretty much anything that might be rfs, so if your format left the backup FAT intact, that might be your problem. By the way, the nilfs2+user_init kernel I posted in the mimocan fix thread does support ext4 as well, and allows you to customize the mount without rebuilding your kernel.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] jzero88:
Great work, both look good on the phone :)
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] musky:
sweet! I would love to see the blackglassswype. That's my favorite swype theme. These are hella nice though! Thanks!
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] disturkis4u:
Awesome!
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] hoey2011:
There is a black glass theme that comes with Eugene's ROM. If you don't feel like flashing a whole rom and all that business, i suppose I could throw together a MM theme for it. It's simple enough :)
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] disturkis4u:
Is there a way to revert beside using nandroid?
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] hoey2011:
I should probably make a stock one eh? I see lots of people are doing that. I wouldn't go so far as to nandroid, b/c all it is are replaced images. Silly to restore the whole phone for less than 1mb of information :P