yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Captivate Android Development] hansmrtn:
RELEASED!!!

I am going to a concert in seattle. Be back in 3 days
[Captivate Android Development] Circazero:
This is so awesome!

How come.some icons look blurry? For example the messages app icon vs the market icon. Same goes for the status/notification bar.
[Captivate Android Development] darkamikaze:
woah woah woah.. you're gonna be flooded when you get back !
[Captivate Android Development] djbberko:
DLING

Dling right now! Will get back when flashed.

I will be flashing through ROM Manager and ClockWork.
[Captivate Android Development] Zilch25:
It's about time I got something to flash, its been like 2 hours
[Captivate Android Development] Zilch25:
Don't panic if it takes a while on first boot... mine is still at a black screen but I'm watching it truck along in logcat =P
[Captivate Android Development] Kaik541:
flash through clockwork mod or regular recovery?
[Captivate Android Development] iamamp3pimp:
hope for data.

:)
[Captivate Android Development] Zilch25:
Clockwork recovery :D
[Captivate Android Development] Zilch25:
Prepare for disappointment =P I'm poking around with it though
[Captivate Android Development] anilkuj:
running my titanium backup now , will flash once it completes

anyone who has flashed , how does it look ? all basic stuff working ?
[Captivate Android Development] Zilch25:
SUPER fast... except for the delays it hits in the beginning while media scanning and attempting to connect to google talk =P
[Captivate Android Development] anilkuj:
is data working zilch?
[Captivate Android Development] Kaik541:
well if that's not a rave review, I don't know what is. I know you've been testing just about every option out there (certainly more than I have) so if you think it's fast, that's one of the better things I've heard
[Captivate Android Development] Kaik541:
Zilch, did you happen to flash back to a stock captivate modem before you tried it? I know you were using the JG8 modem with the i9000 (or vibrant) kernel you were testing with the Hybrid one, if not could that be why you're having issues with data?
[Captivate Android Development] g0dzilla32:
zilch always on top of these releases... I'm going to hold off on this one though, i need data working before I attempt. let me know hows its running..
[Captivate Android Development] rob989_69:
This is great, it seemed that development had slowed a bit but I'm really happy to be seeing ROM's coming out. Great job to the devs.
[Captivate Android Development] darkamikaze:
:D another noobie question for the thread! woo!

what's with the term vanilla D: I know it's delicious and all but, what's the underlying meaning lol :P
[Captivate Android Development] derek4484:
With no data, what good is this to most people? Will wifi still work?
[Captivate Android Development] tbae2:
Vanilla means plain. none of the carrier bloatware or device "enhancements" made by the manufacturers of the phone. It is a clean stock Android operating system.
[Captivate Android Development] tbae2:
Just take this as a proof of concept and that the major stuff is working just small fixes have to be ironed out. It is showing that there is work going on and that this is the current progress. :p The next version is supposed to have data.
[Captivate Android Development] alphadog00:
Well the OP is "In a box", and we don't know what timezone his clock is set to. We also don't know how fast his box is traveling - maybe close to the speed of light, or what frame of reference he is in compared to us.

So it is possible that he released it at his noon, but that will be 99 more years for us; or his noon may not be for another 20 years. Either way it won't be 12 noon east coast time. :)
[Captivate Android Development] itsmikeramsay:
I will probably wait until data and bluetooth are enabled before I flash....however I'll be making a few themes for this ROM whenever it's finished.....

I'll be bringing a few themes from the Droid (1) to it.
[Captivate Android Development] anothertmobilemda:
after samsung releases the source code 4 it. or a system dump from a froyo ota sometime next month...even then could be weeks b4 its ready for us
[Captivate Android Development] kamots:
Alright, noob question. Let me preface by sayingthat I am rooted on a stock rom. When the time comes to flash this,i do an android back up of stock rom probably flash this with re install packages.my question is really just confirming that I can recover my rooted stock rom through either rom manager, or nand restore of something goes wrong.i am not familiar with odin at all, and from what I have read about it, odin scares the crap our of me.sorry for the noob question, but I am still learning alot from you all.you guys rock. From past experience, as long as you dont fry the bootloader, almost everything is recoverable, correct? And yes I bricked my eris trying to root. Had root 6 hrs before I nuked the bootloader while switching roms.
[Captivate Android Development] alphadog00:
Odin one click recovery is easy - no worries. you should get comfortable with it as it is the only way to restore your phone stock if you deleted built in apps.

Keep in mind that there are 2 Odins - 1 is the one click stock recovery - a 250Mb exe that runs Odin AND contains the original factory ROM - put phone in proper mode, push button and walk away.

The other odin is a small exe that requires you pic your ROM, PIT and then a kernel - more to go wrong here - and not always needed if using ROM manager.
[Captivate Android Development] itsmikeramsay:
Another easy way is ClockworkMod Recovery by Koush through ROM Manager. It's easy to flash ROMs and add the necessary features that actually work. I've used it from my Eris, to my Droid. It's never let me down.....
[Captivate Android Development] hansmrtn:
Sorry guys, it may be delayed slightly. But its definitively coming!
[Captivate Android Development] pewpewbangbang:
Yea.....well im coming over from the iPhone jailbreaking side :p even though i still use both phones. iPhone mainly for games and music now since i like android interface and stuff a lot better.

Hopefully a nice easy clear tutorial will be posted on how to flash this ROM and everything like going back to stock and all that if needed. I used the Unleash the Beast tool to root and sideload apps etc..for my captivate so will i need to go back to the original before i do this custom ROM??
[Captivate Android Development] takerfan:
When you get Bluetooth working, which Bluetooth stack will it be using? The android one or the Samsung proprietary one?

Thanks for your work
[Captivate Android Development] votum:
I am in iraq, so no data anyway. Wifi works right?
[Captivate Android Development] Clienterror:
Yea, no BT, Camera or Data. Wifi works fine.
[Captivate Android Development] sl8125:
I don't know about captivate rom but vibrant6 worked with jm5 i9000 rom. Camera worked but don't know about bluwtooth. Every seemed fine to me. Try flashing on i9000 rom. It worked for me.
[Captivate Android Development] tytdfn:
Will this also unblock those menu options like toggling between 2g and 3g and the unknown sources check mark that samsung ''forgot'' to put in? Or is this a much deeper problem?
[Captivate Android Development] cconrado:
well if you want you can use the rom from the vibrant forums that eugene373 and barak made. i was able to install it thou using rom manager. just so u get a preview of what to come. im guessing that its being delayed as mentioned before because hes working of the data fix.:)
[Captivate Android Development] furious6226:
So ur telling me I can flash the vibrant rom on my captivate.
[Captivate Android Development] Zilch25:
Nope, you get 3G logo and everything but no connection
[Captivate Android Development] Zilch25:
Yeah I flashed back to completely stock JH3 earlier today... still no love- plus even if I was using the JG8 I'd get data without voice =(
[Captivate Android Development] anilkuj:
i see the 3G icon but the data doesn't work i have very poor signal inside my home so i am not sure if thats the case

Wifi is working though
[Captivate Android Development] Zilch25:
I have to rush in to get the first brick! I won't let you guys have all the glory!
[Captivate Android Development] Zilch25:
Okay first impressions:

Scrolling and general OS speed is BLAZING. There's some odd hiccups though with some apps, though it seemed turning wifi on alleviated it, so it may be related to the phone attempting to hit the internet for everything.

GPS doesn't seem to work just yet

Screen orientation doesn't change

Doesn't see external SD card
[Captivate Android Development] anilkuj:
i like the overall speed of the rom ,

once data is fixed would definitely flash back and try more
[Captivate Android Development] Kaik541:
Flashed mine over JH3 (didn't even go back to stock JH3).

Reports the SD card as being "removed" without the external card in, even though the SD storage recognizes there is a card in there.

Have yet to test GPS (God, I'd use this everyday if GPS worked). Haptic feedback/vibrate seems a bit finnicky at times. Screen orientation seems to be working for me, though, it's also finnicky. Wifi takes a bit long to start after booting. Proximity sensor works for calls as well as audio.

Like Zilch said, first reboot the screen stays black for a scary long time, but don't worry, it's just doing it's thing.

Oh and of course, very nice, no more AT&T censoring of the market (just says Downloads) now

EXTRA: Titanium Backup seems to want at least a million approvals for superuser rights first time you boot it.
[Captivate Android Development] Zilch25:
I reflashed to stock kernel from the OC one I was using and my orientation came back... GPS is still dead, and crashes google maps whenever I open it :( Haptic feedback is indeed flakey, but man this is fast

My home key was a little flakey as well... but it got better O_o

Seems like superuser doesn't remember past approvals
[Captivate Android Development] Zilch25:
Hmm it appears it doesn't remember any of the stuff I do in settings either... interesting
[Captivate Android Development] djbberko:
First Impression

VERY fast. Launcher Pro is the default and is very fast. DATA does not work but wifi does. Unrestricted market which is great. If data comes this thing will be amazing.
[Captivate Android Development] Kaik541:
it seems to have been using an outdated version of "su" (not superuser app, just the actual su command). You can either update it with ROM manager or with advanced options enabled or with the SuperUser app itself. Seems to remember settings and not ask as many times
[Captivate Android Development] Zilch25:
Ahhh the su binary was out of date, nice catch
[Captivate Android Development] Kaik541:
so Zilch, don't know if you remember about the problems I was having over with the VibrantHybrid about things requiring location causing FC's like crazy (beautiful home, navigation, etc) but it's repeating that here too.

Using the same kernel and same configuration, so I'm wondering if there's the same underlying problem
[Captivate Android Development] Zilch25:
They might be related on some level, but this ROM is completely jacked when it comes to location services, so it probably isn't the *same* issue.

In other news my screen just lit up and said "No Service" and it hasn't come back after a couple minutes. Cool huh? :)
[Captivate Android Development] djbberko:
bugs

Dont know if you know these already but this is also for anyone else who is flashing.

-Can't go to any site in browser

-maps FC's sometimes

-when little notifications pop up on bottom of screen it stays there until restart

-Navigation FC's

Just some I've com accross.
[Captivate Android Development] Kaik541:
this actually might be related to the JH3 modem (this has happened to me once or twice) where it'll just be like "NO" but will come back if you reboot. Most of the time it does come back on it's own though after a few minutes.

And I actually do think this is the same issue, at least for me, as I seemed to be the only one encountering this problem with the VibrantHybrid. Anything requiring a location service causes the phone to FC. Maps will load until you ask it to find your location. So yeah GPS is dead, and data is obviously dead
[Captivate Android Development] oldskooldawgz:
i had these exact same issues with the vibrant hybrid
[Captivate Android Development] Zilch25:
This ROM was also built on a Vibrant, and the source was created by the same guy and modified by hans- so that shouldn't be too surprising :)
[Captivate Android Development] akachay:
no disrespect but what's the difference between this rom and jane4. fast with hiccups here and there. still missing the same features.
[Captivate Android Development] jasonyump:
Hey hansmrtn nice to see the release. Thanks. Gonna try this out later. Also wanted to ask do you have the source for this available? Or know where i can find the original source? Thanks.
[Captivate Android Development] Zilch25:
It might be, but I've honestly *never* had it do that before, and I've run JH3 quite a bit
[Captivate Android Development] hansmrtn:
Yeah so data doesn't work.
[Captivate Android Development] aqtrans:
Ask him when the Captivate will see Froyo :p

Great job on the ROM, if data was working, it would definitely be my main ROM. :cool:
[Captivate Android Development] Kaik541:
I want to say :O but at the same time, I think we were all expecting this with the mistake samfirmware did the other day... doesn't make me any less excited though! hopefully it won't be that same, insane $900 the Germany one is likely to go for
[Captivate Android Development] Kaik541:
Hmm... very strange... if you disable the ability to use GPS satellites (use only wireless networks, which makes sense anyway since data isn't working)... most location based applications seem to work again. at least genie widget and beautiful home widget were working (maps is still buggy), so I guess it's all tied to the GPS hardware
[Captivate Android Development] hansmrtn:
He said most likely early december :(
[Captivate Android Development] Kaik541:
well that's disheartening... did you try hitting him repeatedly and asking him again? that seems to work pretty well in this thread to get what we want :D
[Captivate Android Development] BecomingxInsane:
Lol, he's got a good point.. :P
[Captivate Android Development] sevenvt:
You should build an app that looks like a data on/off switch but have it always stick to off no matter how many times you flip it.
[Captivate Android Development] boostedneonsrt4:
Our samsung rep just told us a week ago that the captivate would have froyo by the end of this month. I haven't heard anything about the tab yet.
[Captivate Android Development] eugene373:
I haven't messed with data as of lately, but once I get the Hybrid rom posted I'll look into it more today.. as me and barak has made some head way in source.
[Captivate Android Development] Kaik541:
eugene, you are all over the place today (in the best possible way). Vanilla with data (in a dream world, with GPS) would be the be-all, end-all for me... won't even miss camera or bluetooth
[Captivate Android Development] madjsp:
I agree with this. Data and GPS would be what is needed. I never use bluetooth as it is.
[Captivate Android Development] Reefermattness:
Cant handle not having BT or Camera. We had this same "conversation" in the Rhodium thread about "what needs to be fixed first". Everyone uses their handsets differently, so nobody is ever gonna agree on what needs to be fixed. lol I use my BT WAY more than I use my GPS or my Camera, multiple times a day vs a camera a few times a month, or GPS a few times a week. It ALL needs to be fixed. The order that its fixed in, depends on how easy the fixes come, not on an imaginary lists that the members make up.
[Captivate Android Development] Kaik541:
yep, it all comes down to personal usage. I think we're all just stating kind of a "oh hey I want this" but in a less selfish-sounding way :D

however things progress, I'll be checking this non-stop. I think everyone can agree we want all of these options to work properly, in the end. as things progress, they'll only get better, there are just the "what would make this my daily ROM" kind of comments.
[Captivate Android Development] Reefermattness:
Agreed, and In no way am I saying that nobody should have an opinion. :) I personally am watching these threads like a hawk, no flashing yet (other than JH3), but i really really want to as soon as some of the bugs are worked out. Only thing keeping me from it is that I just came from the Rhod forum, where were were porting android to the TP2, and it had lots of bugs (no BT, no Camera, no lots of things) so having an Android handset that actually works right now is spectacular and I cant bring myself to break it (yet).

Keep up the great work guys!
[Captivate Android Development] Kaik541:
I always nandroid before testing something new, and with this flashable zip I don't honestly think anything will break (it doesn't touch kernels, bootloaders, etc). Hell, I pop back and forth between it and SRE from just nandroid's. I can pretty much assure you that, using this combined with clockwork, you can revert right back to where you were almost instantly.
[Captivate Android Development] hansmrtn:
Sorry I won't be able to work on this until monday, I am at bumbershoot concert in seattle
[Captivate Android Development] Reefermattness:
There will be looting and pillaging in small European villages now! :)
[Captivate Android Development] serialtoon:
Im just sitting here, staring at my boring iPhone 4 waiting for a clean Vanilla android 2.1,2.2 to release so i can walk into ATT and purchase this bad boy....just waiting....twiddling my thumbs....wishing i could help...
[Captivate Android Development] itsmikeramsay:
It's cool, you have you're own life to live. With your permission I'd like to look at this ROM and look into it. Bring it to a few friends who know more over at a few other forums to see if they can give some input..... I'd hate to take it somewhere else and do something without your consent....
[Captivate Android Development] eugene373:
You are more than welcome to do such things.. :rolleyes:
[Captivate Android Development] Kaik541:
how dare you encourage this type of behavior! soon people will think developers want to work together! and that open source is a friendly community!

next thing you know, developers won't even expect to get paid, they'll just work for donations! what is this world coming to with commies like you!?!

:D
[Captivate Android Development] Zilch25:
Man, Linus Torvalds would be rolling in his grave... wait...

:D
[Captivate Android Development] eugene373:
LMAO!! :eek::eek::eek::eek:
[Captivate Android Development] gotfolk:
I come to this forum just for the comedy. :)
[Captivate Android Development] Kaik541:
it's really gone uphill, if I do say so myself
[Captivate Android Development] madjsp:
I can't tell you how many times I've actually laughed from posts on XDA today. It's been a plethora of times.
[Captivate Android Development] Zilch25:
Seems like everyone around here has a pretty good sense of humor :) Laughter is a much better outlet for INDESCRIBABLE FRUSTRATION than early balding or random acts of violence if you ask me ;)
[Captivate Android Development] Kaik541:
when I first got here, there was a lot of aggression and demanding attitudes. very happy to see that go away
[Captivate Android Development] Zilch25:
I think all those guys got impatient and went to T-Mobile to yell at Wes about CM 6.1 ;)
[Captivate Android Development] tjsooley:
As soon as everything is working i am game.
[Captivate Android Development] rajendra82:
Now that Eugene himself is working on the Captivate builds of Vibrant9 and Vibrant hybrid Roms (and making pretty good progress by the looks of it), I am wondering what is going to happen to this fork. Is this going to be built independantly, or merged back into it?
[Captivate Android Development] Kaik541:
AOSP will (and should) be it's own fork. Eugene said he's been working with barak and they've made some progress on data. In fact, this can pretty easily be disassociated with Hybrid or Vibrant9 because those are TouchWiz builds with AOSP bits hacked in here or there until they work (with some notable glitches).

AOSP is built from the ground up, and hopefully won't be influenced by Hybrid or Vibrant9. Though, realistically, any progress made on AOSP can be very easily incorporated into Hybrid to get GPS working
[Captivate Android Development] perium:
After loading both, id much rather this rom move forward.
[Captivate Android Development] perium:
Weird Issue

After a phone call stops ringing pandora starts playing music. Anyone else having this issue?
[Captivate Android Development] E_man5112:
So do I just use ROM manager to install this? I'm guessing it's not odin.
[Captivate Android Development] hansmrtn:
Sorry for not being here guys, I just have a fairly active lifestyle :(. Thanks for everyone who its helping!
[Captivate Android Development] Kaik541:
no need to keep apologizing, we understand... if we weren't we wouldn't be posting in here, we'd ignore it until it's buried like most have seem to have done over in the vibrant thread... I'm only so active because I'm jobless for the next week
[Captivate Android Development] Zilch25:
Yeah no worries, we've all got our fingers in a whole lot of pies up in here :)

FYI I'm active because I A) have a super boring job B) get really burnt out from the boring job so I hang out at home a lot on the weekends C) I can't let anyone else brick before I do >=(
[Captivate Android Development] Kaik541:
to point C...

oh it's on... it's on like donkey kong
[Captivate Android Development] Zilch25:
Hahaha the way we work it might end in a tie. We'll both flash the same WRONG thing at the same time
[Captivate Android Development] Kaik541:
I'll probably cry more though
[Captivate Android Development] Zilch25:
I wouldn't worry too much, if you got it through AT&T they'll overnight warranty anything they don't understand
[Captivate Android Development] Reefermattness:
Its true, they really don't know much. For winmo they never check radio/rom numbers either. Thats why im trying to break this thing in my 30 day replacement period. Lol

I just follow you 2 around by the way. Ill be brick #3 following your instructions. :P
[Captivate Android Development] Kaik541:
I bought mine through amazon because I'm cheap and the $20 I saved paid for my first month of data (hooray corporate discounts from companies we no longer work for)!
[Captivate Android Development] Zilch25:
We just aren't happy with a functioning phone... gotta strive for that $500 paperweight!

I'm outside of my 30 days, but AT&T will still do a replacement, you just have to wait for their warranty center... 30 days only applies to the in-store instant replacement. I'm pretty sure we get one year through Samsung as well- but I'd expect them to be a little wiser :)
[Captivate Android Development] Kaik541:
I'm very aware of AT&T's lack of knowledge... before the phone came out, I went to the local AT&T store(s) and not a one knew about this phone... even though one of them had a non-functioning display model. Am I the only one who thinks it's strange that there are 3-4 actual iPhones just sitting there to play with, but not a single other phone is more than a cheap plastic model?

even after it came out when my sister went to get her iPhone 4 they didn't know what it was even though there were boxes of them and the lady behind the counter even said "Oh yeah, people really seem to like that, probably because it's a cheaper iPhone 4" (even though they're the same price)

so it's not just lack of android knowledge... it seems the people at AT&T stores are told "iPhone good, others less good"
[Captivate Android Development] Zilch25:
Yup, that's pretty much the case... anything that isn't iPhone isn't a phone at all. Before the Captivate came out I was calling around to try and get one of those early leaked ones... I called like 8 different stores, and they either didn't know what it was, or thought it was coming out a month later. Bunch of geniuses.