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[EVO 4G Android Development] vaelek:
As far as I know nobody else has run into it. I have had a few brief periods where the whole thing would get VERY unresponsive but I know the cause is crappy code in Last.FM so not much I can do about it. If you keep running into this, I would be interested to know what all you have installed. If you'd rather PM me the list that's cool.

I have a lot of ideas brewing for what will be next. I have some voodoo frankenstein stuff I want to try this weekend that if works, is gonna make everyone's day :)

worst case scenario - 1.4 is similar to 1.3a with a few more bugfixes and moving to BFS#6 with some setcpu tweaking to limit the max to known stable values.

Best case scenario - Well now I can't give away all the surprises can I? :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] vaelek:
I've had bad experience with Ultimate Juice doing more harm than good as far as battery goes. If you want to monitor your battery usage, I would suggest using battery snap that comes with the rom. It is very resource friendly. If process manager is a task killer, check out the last few pages where I explain the downfall of those. The combination of the two might be what is thrashing your battery. I have *never* used a task killer with this rom. My main battery issue is poor signal at home so the cell radio drains it like a cow. So jealous of whoever said they expect 40hrs out of this sucker!

The best battery saver is yourself. Turning off radios when not in use, actively adjusting brightness, removing apps that you'll never use that have background processes, smart use of widgets that won't tax the hell out the system, etc.. Most things if you read the comments in the market you can get a good idea of how they will affect battery life, but don't take all comments as gold.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xzulez:
I greatly appreciate your help. thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] zimmy6996:
Hey Vael ... first off, awesome Tom so far. I need a non sense Tom cause I Ned support for more than one exchange account.

One trouble though, your Tom won't do slacker, Pandora, etc over 3g. Just stalls. Any idea why?
[EVO 4G Android Development] vaelek:
That's odd.. This rom specifically has the fix that stops them from doing that, it's a known "issue" with 2.2. Since putting the fix in it has made a world of difference [for me]. Before, I was lucky if I got through 10 seconds of a song before it would jump to the next. That no longer happens. I does still cut off every now and then but it seems to be mostly related to the data signal strength. I have noticed that it stalls a lot recently and sometimes even makes the whole device mostly unresponsive for a minute or two, but I blame this on some recent app updates. The only one I really use is Last.fm so I can't comment on slacker or pandora, but I can give them a shot. Do they play at all for you? or what is the exact behavior? and signal strength at the time? standing still, driving..?

Has anyone else had problems with these?

While sortof on the topic, I should say that it was recently discovered (Thanks Skitzi!) that GrooveShark will not work on this rom. The problem in a nutshell, is that Google phased out a legacy audio codec to make way for Stagefright, and next to no developers were prepared for it. The result is poor audio quality and random skipping in basically all streaming audio apps. GrooveShark has either updated their service, or never used the legacy codec in the first place, so the fix for the rest (disabling stagefright-http) happens to break GrooveShark. Google has committed a "fix" for this on the source repository, but it's not a simple drop-in fix and is anyone's guess as to when it will be implemented for each device. Google will include it in Gingerbread, hopefully mfg's will put out an OTA before that to address it. Though it's a shame dev's aren't just forced to update to the new standard and we have to bring back a dated legacy codec.

Anyone who that wasn't enough for, there's a pretty good article on it here.
[EVO 4G Android Development] oubravs2b:
No problem with Pandora here over 3g.
[EVO 4G Android Development] :
I have not had any problems with Pandora at all but Slacker Radio...forget about it. It will stream for about 3 seconds and thats it. Im still on 1.1
[EVO 4G Android Development] zimmy6996:
Thanks for the feedback. I may yet reflashing the startover Tom, and then back to your Tom, and see if that fixes the problem.

It isn't that I use steaming audio all the time, but its nice yo have sometimes.

On another note, and sorry if this has been covered but has anyone figured out how to clean up the 9018 SMS messages associated to sprint voicemail? Really annoying. I am sure it has something to do with the ASOP SMS package.
[EVO 4G Android Development] regulator207:
zimmy. you need to add 'Rom' to your keyboard dictionary.

btw vael, very nice work with this rom. I see you are adding the exchange policy free mail clients to your next build. I exchanged the asop mail client with sense's as it supports the ability to sync all your mail. I modified the mail.apk then put it in your \system\app\ dir in the zip then flashed the new rom and it worked.

again, thanks for this awesome rom.
[EVO 4G Android Development] glenzos:
Its the settings your using in setcpu. Try Vaels settings, if you still have a problem, disable your Profiles and see if anything is lagging. You might need to play around with the profiles. Mine was doing the same thing every once in a while and I beleive that the min/max was set too low when the screen was off. When I would get a phone call, and tried to answer it, it would lag to the point of missing the call. I think when its set too low and something like a phone call wakes it up, it takes a few seconds to get up to speed. Play with the settings. Its not the ROM
[EVO 4G Android Development] glenzos:
Hey bro, the 40 hours is mine. But I forgot to mention that I have a 3500mah battery, Sorry bout that. I will get an easy 40 out of it, that is with normal use. But Slacker radio and porn will drain much quicker than that.:D
[EVO 4G Android Development] glenzos:
With Slacker you can cache your stations, it plays all day flawlessly, without issue.
[EVO 4G Android Development] vaelek:
Oh nice, I've looked at those.. the extra width makes me hesitant though. How bad it is in real world use?
[EVO 4G Android Development] halorin:
I'd sooner buy the pair of regular size batteries for ten bucks on eBay.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Bloodykiller86:
Rom seems pretty good just one request. If any way possible can u get hi res versions of the aosp icons cuz those low res one leave much to be desired on the evos screen lol.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Bloodykiller86:
oh btw a good weather time widget is fancy widget its not in the market anymore cuz of htcs greedy ass lol..but i made a backup b4 it was taken down so if u want it let me know =P i for one love it lol
[EVO 4G Android Development] LMMT:
Voicemail problem

I've used your rom since the day it came out, and it's my favorite. I finally upgraded to 1.3a, and started receiving that android 9016 text with every voicemail. I have tried every solution I could find, but can't get visual voicemail to work, or make that annoying text go away. I even nandroid restored, and flashed a different rom. Any suggestions?
[EVO 4G Android Development] vaelek:
Added to the list.

Been going back and forth on this one. Yes it was pulled from the Market, but as far as I know, it was free anyhow. As of right now, I am quite peeved at HTC for taking a perfectly nice OPEN operating system and bastardizing the hell out of it with such tight integration that is such a PITA to eliminate. In the end, I think I will include it if nothing else as a big FU to HTC. The reasons it was pulled in the first place rather irks me because A) it was free, and B) It's not like Sense is for sale anywhere. I was hoping LP would have a replacement widget built in before it became an issue but since that's not happening [at least quickly enough], most likely expect Fancy Widget in the next release, unless someone suggests an equal alternative.

I find that after flashing a new rom, I do get a few of those, but it seems like they eventually do stop. I think it has something to do with provisioning the voicemail after first boot. It does also seem to happen more with the AOSP MMS installed than with the HTC. A friend of mine had no problems, but I had to go back to HTC MMS in order to get actual MMS images to download. Will be looking into this a bit more for the next build.
[EVO 4G Android Development] LMMT:
Thanks for the response, I'll give it some more time to see if it corrects itself. I even flashed Netarchy's stock 2.2. The android 9016, "so and so has sent you a voicemail" texts stopped, but I still receive a text (native HTC messaging), alerting me of a voicemail, I guess I'll just have to call to check my voicemail manually.
[EVO 4G Android Development] YafaKlan:
I dont know about you guys but when I use the htc dialer... and I dial an unknown number or a number that is not in my phone book... i can not se the digits. although the sound is made, and after i dial 10 digits and press talk, then i can see it.

however while in the dialer i can't see the digits after i press them. anyone else having this issue?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Bloodykiller86:
hey jw i was trying to go to back to the htc browser and mms but everytime i reboot it goes back to aosp how do i get it permanently

EDIT: nvm i got it lol first i moved the ones u had in the folder to /system/app then i installed them then moved them from /data/app to /system/app and now its good =P
[EVO 4G Android Development] vaelek:
Not able to reproduce on my end. I see digits as I dial in both AOSP and HTC dialers... :confused:

You know, I tested that the replacements could be installed and functioned as expected, but I never did reboot and check again. Just tested and the same thing happens for me :confused: I'll dig into it more once I can look through some logs but for now, if you overwrite /system/app/browser.apk with the one in vaelpak-extras/replaced it should solve the problem for you. Same goes for MMS.

I am working on the next release, but taking it a little slower this time and doing much more testing. Trying to squash all the issues being reported and I really want to have some automated way to switch out HTC for AOSP apps that is more elegant than the workarounds provided thus far.
[EVO 4G Android Development] JerzyIroc:
I'm really liking this ROM. But my Linpack is never better than 23. And my Quadrant is never over 1000.

Edit: NM. Don't know what happened but I let it sit for about 10 minutes. tried them again and now I'm seeing Benchmarks of 35+ and Quadrants consistently over 1300. NeoCore is at 28 though. With the FPS unlocked is that a normal FPS to get on Neocore? Either way, I WILL be donating my next workers comp check. Awesome job man!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Bloodykiller86:
hey jw in your opinion wats the best kernel for battery life cuz since its based on Froyo Fusion which i had b4 idk which kernel i should go for. Fusion had great battery life with minimal use i had about 3 days of battery but i tried out kings and man seems like the battery life i had on my eris using CM roms lol..droping 10% in 30 mins lol
[EVO 4G Android Development] yungwunn911:
Any ideas on how to link contacts with Facebook contacts that didn't link? I have several contacts in My address book with identical names of fb ccontacts that I just can't combine!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] glenzos:
With my battery in, and next to my wife's EVO (which is in a case), they are almost the same size. Granted, it is much thicker than an EVO out of the case, I am also getting the Innocase for it which is pretty thin, (1mm). It really isn't as bad as you might think and it is much more convenient than carrying an extra battery. Right now I am at 40% and my phone has been running for 34 hours, 4g and BT are on, I check mail every day as well as phone and text. Also, I am running Vaels setting for SetCpu, I will run Shoot Me and post the picture tomorrow. As long as I can figure out how to post that. I will also try to post a pic of my phone next to my wifes phone to help give an idea of the size.
[EVO 4G Android Development] JerzyIroc:
I've tried loading the HTC Twitter widget, HTC Bookmar Widget and it says it's installed, but doesn't show under widgets when you long press. Also I can't find the hTC browser
[EVO 4G Android Development] Bloodykiller86:
well u cant use the htc widgets cuz sense was removed lol so therefore no sense widgets u gotta use a rom that hasnt had sense removed
[EVO 4G Android Development] JerzyIroc:
Ahh. I assumed they were usable since the apk's were put in the SD card. They installed with no problem, but never show up when you long press. No biggy
[EVO 4G Android Development] vaelek:
Until I know for a fact that everything ripped out will have no side effects, everything I remove is made available because it's a lot easier to give quick instructions how to solve an issue than to try and put out a whole new rom quickly. The more the rom matures, the more will disappear from the extras except the apps that can be chosen and are fully working. None of the htc widgets in extras will show up or be usable.
[EVO 4G Android Development] JerzyIroc:
OO ok. Awesome. Thanks for clearing that up. Really liking the ROM so far.
[EVO 4G Android Development] JerzyIroc:
Just curious.. With the fps unlocked, shouldn't the NeoCore be over 30? I'm getting consistant 28.8 fps. Not a big deal but just wondering.
[EVO 4G Android Development] vaelek:
Not necessarily. NeoCore is a benchmark, and there's some impressive rendering going on there (same idea as why some of the scenes in Quadrant don't get high fps). I have yet to get over 30fps with that one. You can verify the FPS unlock by running fps2d though. It's free in the market. You should get a pretty consistent 54fps there.
[EVO 4G Android Development] JerzyIroc:
Ya I got around 54fps. I was happy to see that LOL. You're ROM is so awesome dude. It's seriously EXACTLY what I was looking for. I've been messing with set CPU to hopefully improve baattery life. Should I disable the perflock? Overall I have to say you've done an incredible job. I don't have the curiosity to explore other ROMS either. Donation to come very soon. Need my workers comp check first! LOL

Also, I have no faith that htc has any intentions of improving video quality. Is there any way that you would be able to increase the video quality? Like adding 720p recording using H.264, increase the fps capture from the pathetic 22fps to as close to 30fps as you can get, and also increasing the horrible audio quality? I love the Evo but I'm very disappointed with the video and audio quality when recording especially in "HD". One last thing, is there any way you can put that funny Android pissing on an Apple boot screen? Or is that specifically for someone elses rom?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Bloodykiller86:
Hey Vaelek what kernel do u reccommend for battery life how froyo fusion had? ive tried nets and kings but they seeem to kill it in about a day and thats with minimal use.
[EVO 4G Android Development] vaelek:
the video fps should be 24 from what I can tell. I will have a look around and see what if anything I can do about this. My ultimate goal here as soon as I have everything stable, is to go back to my AOSP build and start tinkering with the code to see what I can come up with, and possibly resolve some of the incompatibility issues surrounding mixing AOSP + HTC. Been doing a lot of experimenting this last week or so and I may have some tricks up my sleeve to get even more AOSP goodness in here. Biggest hold up is the need for small changes so I can gauge the effects of each change. I've easily flashed 25-40 experimental builds over the last week. As it stands right now, only final releases are pushed early to donors, but I may be changing that up to also provide test/experimental build access and/or private betas for all donors. You all have been extremely helpful in tracking down bugs since it's hard for one person to use every single aspect of the OS.

I go back and forth on this one, donations are definitely appreciated but are in NO WAY required or begged for, because I don't want to come off as "GIVE ME YOUR MONEY IF YOU WANT THE GOODS!", but at the same time, if I put out test builds for everyone, there will inevitably be some who won't get the concept of TEST and then the overall view of the ROM declines. Right now I'm torn between opening tests up for donors only, or for donors AND those that have been the most helpful in posting issues or workarounds, as these are the folks I feel able to handle a test build. I will likely continuously review this "policy" based on the number of donors and interested private testers. So I can get an idea of the interest, anyone who would want to be a private tester, please PM me. Please put [TESTER] in the subject so I can pick them out easily.

Wow I got a little off topic there, anyhow, the official answer to your question, is once I get the last few bugs out and can start concentrating on feature requests, If it is within my ability to grant your request, it *will* happen. Once I can start digging into the framework is when more notable changes / customization will probably start happening.

[disclaimer - this was written very quickly and jumps around a bit, if everything does not make sense i apologize in advance, feel free to ask for clarification on anything (of course this applies to everything I write here lol).]
[EVO 4G Android Development] cmart4:
dsp manager from cm6 is awesome. can you incorporate that into your next build? i've pulled the apk but can't get it to work (outside of cm6 of course)
[EVO 4G Android Development] vaelek:
kernels have some effect but the biggest factor is how you use your phone, and your signal strength. If you spend a lot of time with 2 or less bars, your battery will drain much faster. I myself am currently in love with the Kings BFS kernels and have been running #5 now for a few days, soon to try #6. One thing I can say is that they seem to default to the conservative profile in SetCPU. I find that ondemand ends up with better battery life, along with smart use of profiles. If you go back a few pages you will find the setcpu profiles I posted that I currently use.

Along with that it also comes down to the apps you have in the background, widgets, sync accounts & frequency, etc. I have an idea in the works for a sort of battery monitor to give much better information than what is currently available, taking into account all of these factors, but we'll see how that goes.

Along with using ondemand, I also find I get a bit better battery by setting the sampling rate in setcpu to 80000 and the powersave bias to 100.
[EVO 4G Android Development] vaelek:
Added to the list. I'll check this out tonight.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cmart4:
awesome thank u.
[EVO 4G Android Development] JerzyIroc:
While donations may not be required or anything, there's no way I could use this awesome ROM knowing you put so much hard work time and effort without a donation. Not only is this build awesome, I really like your approach towards updates n such with wanting to take small steps working things out and making sure it's stable instead of going nuts and just making everything a total mess.
[EVO 4G Android Development] 4ML:
...coming in from another Rom. Installing this for the first time using Clockwork :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] 4ML:
The rom is great. I was trying to install from the extras folder through the clockwork recovery - it said "no files found" :confused:
[EVO 4G Android Development] vaelek:
To install things from the extras folder, you don't need to flash them. Just browse to extras in astro/root explorer/etc and tap one of them, you'll get the normal installer view and can go from there.
[EVO 4G Android Development] 4ML:
doh! My bad. I couldn't get the Sprint NFL to work, it installed fine but when I open it - it opens and shuts down.

Btw, great Rom - very smooth and fast. Like it a lot
[EVO 4G Android Development] vaelek:
I know Skitzi posted a fix for the NFL thing a lot of pages back. I'll see if I can find it for you. I don't use the NFL app so it's not fresh on my mind. I believe you need to install the Sprint Updater app as well to stop the fc's.

Edit: This post has a link to a fix that should work for you. I just tested with what comes in the extras and even with the updater it fails to update, but follow the link and you should be golden :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] 4ML:
It's cool. I'll look it up. Don't worry, I read through many of the pages, but not all - but i'll do that. Thanks though.

Everything works great though.
[EVO 4G Android Development] JerzyIroc:
Well, continuing to absolutely enjoy and love this ROM. I'm gonna try and do a video review on this ROM this week and post it here if you don't mind. It'll give potential users a good idea of what they're gonna get. I'm hoping to have a stock 2.2 Evo with me at the time to compare them... Here's my numbers so far:

Quadrant: Below is what I get practically every time. Very consistant numbers in the high 1400's range with it going over 1500 a few times.

Linkpack: My best so far. But I get consistent 37.5+

NeoCore: Best is 28.9. But again, consistency consistency consistency. I've yet to get less than 28.7. it's almost always 28.8 or 28.9.

fps2d: Best of 53. But get consistent 52. Never less.

There are ROMs out there that will beat these numbers. But I would bet the stability would be hard to match this ROM. I've had it for a few days and I've yet to get one hickup, force close, or sign of lag. If you're against the wall about getting this ROM GET IT! Video review to come soon
[EVO 4G Android Development] dragonfyre13:
Hulu Support?

Out of curiosity, has this been considered to be included?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=752582

Full Hulu support sounds awesome!

BTW, LOVE the rom. My daily driver. Dontation coming your way shortly if I like 1.3a as much as 1.2 (1.2 annoys me because of the inability to upgrade some of the apps, and I have yet to dive into /system to remove them.)
[EVO 4G Android Development] glenzos:
Here ya go, over 48 hours.
[EVO 4G Android Development] JerzyIroc:
OMG.. HULU support would be AWESOME
[EVO 4G Android Development] vaelek:
Man that's awesome! With my signal I'm lucky if I get 1/2 that. Can I use a couple of those shots in the first post?
[EVO 4G Android Development] ctyke:
and that 3500 battery you have... I am happy with stock battery and the day I get out of it, recharging at night regardless of how much is left on it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] glenzos:
Absolutely. I will also take a shot of my phone next to my wifes phone to give you an idea of the width. She also has an extended battery, (the 1750), which is the same size as the 1500. One of these days I'll take her battery and see what it will give me in my phone and post the results. Her phone is Froyo 2.2 unrooted.
[EVO 4G Android Development] glenzos:
I said it was a 3500 mah battery. That was pretty much noraml use. Text talk email some surfing and a bit of youtube. But for a day, "PLEASE" I can do twise what you can with your stock battery including listening to Slacker and letting my daughter watch my slingplayer most of the time (all on 4G) and still have time left at the end of the day. I probably have enough to charge your battery. Just Kidding. I'm just letting Vael know how well his rom and setcpu settings are working.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Deffcon_1:
This may have been addressed and I just couldnt find it. I just flashed this and have to say I like it a lot. One thing I find odd is when I open Titanium it gives me the message that it was given root access like normal. The strange part is after I close it the message stays on the screen. It will stay for anywhere from 10 to about 45 seconds. Then it goes away. Ive used System Panel to end it and see if that worked but nothing. Not a big issue by any stretch of the imagination, just wondered if something is up with it.

My benchmark with this rom.

Running Kings +6