yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Ok, toast. I have a proposal for you: I'll carve a statue in your honor and you work on the 4G code. Whomever finishes first wins. Ready........go! *kpoz quickly logs onto studentuniverse.com and purchases a cheap ticket to Italy with the intent to steal the statue of David and glue a printed picture of toast's face over David's.

I couldn't agree more. Hopefully, the wimax code developed by toast can be implemented on the 20+ wimax phones that will appear in the next two years. The wimax code can be used (hopefully) on a number of phones, and is so important for that very reason.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
I love how you're always there to clean up the garbage when I'm not. Go team shoz (shift+kpoz)!
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
the long, ever-watchful, thunderous backhands of team shoz never sleeps... because, as a wise tuna once said, our passion is cm.

;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
Aosp =) I what is good for cm is good for all haha
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
agreed! +1
[EVO 4G Android Development] fixxxer2008:
jesus almost $2500 to get 4g on cm6? :eek:
[EVO 4G Android Development] p-slim:
Hey toast, you think if we all bug htc on twitter they might release their source, or is this one of those things they will never release like sense? If so CM can probably get some of his followers to retweet
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
my munniez are anxiously trying to escape my clutches and run to the wimax coder

id even be willing to donate to the htc person that leaks some needed code to us
[EVO 4G Android Development] sskonberg:
That right there is an old fashioned ass whooping.
[EVO 4G Android Development] toastcfh:
ok back on topic..

htc will not release this for a few reasons

one sequans is the chip manufacturer and they also provide the userspace source. sequans, if u go to look for ata sheets and info on their site, say out right that they will provide companies choosing to use their chip with a secure userspace and or api to use with the chips.

two htc isnt required to release this as its not covered by gpl regulations. they only release kernel source because they have to by law.

htc actually only seems to be actually coding the wrapper for userspace and possibly only tweaking the daemon and other bits.

on the other hand there are some up sides to all this. sequansd is isolated along with sqn. which means if we can create an api that interacts the same as htcs or mimics it to a degree then we can use the userspace daemon sequansd. if we choose another route we would need to create our own daemon, which is an even more massive undertaking. just look at the code in aosp for wpa_suplicant for wifi. its pretty big >_> so imo for now, we should and i am, attempting to interact with what we already have. the wad of daemons htc uses and sequansd. its a much smaller scale then a complete reverse and rewrite of everything to do with wimax.
[EVO 4G Android Development] strung:
Interesting, so they use 2 daemons it looks like. Just doing a 'ps' i see sqn_tx and /system/bin/sequansd. I don't see any sqn_tx on the filesystem though.

This may be an obvious question, but would sequans license us the userspace if we purchased it from them?

Anybody have tips on reverse engineering? Tools to use? I don't have any experience with that, just forward engineering :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] mattismyname:
Donation: $25
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
First post is spending money, you are going to have a bright future my friend haha
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shinzul:
In other words, we're trying to copy what HTC does in order to make it work...
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shauli20:
I was just wondering, Samsung also has a 4G phone. How did they go about it? Are they using the same method as HTC?

Sent from my EVO rockin' MikFroYo!
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
I hope you are wrong, and myself and others will do everything in our power to ensure that as much of the pledged donations are paid.
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
i can whip out the cattle shock prod. i've been meaning to lay waste to some of the trolls around here...
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
check your PM, i have your first nomination
[EVO 4G Android Development] p-slim:
according to one of toastcfh's other post there is a certain chip that htc uses and according to toast as well they plan on using that chip for awhile, which is why he is working so hard on the 4G. I'm assuming samsung uses a different chip meaning once he gets it working he will have to add support for that chip or maybe it just won't work, who knows?
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
for sure not me. I don't use CM not because of wimax but because i can't get email to work natively (stupid work exchange settings) so although its great to see an open source alternative to HTC's, for me email is the determining factor. as soon as 2.3 comes out and that supports my work email, i will be on CM for a go regardless of wimax availability. I am either at work (no 4G signal) or home (wifi) for the most part. Even if 2.3 isn't out in time, i would still donate as this is huge for the entire evo community count me in for $20
[EVO 4G Android Development] HondaCop:
Has 4G already been implemented on CM6?

Sent via my EVO from the back seat of your Momma's SUV.
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
it's being worked on, hondacop.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mmegalodon:
I will when it happens, might be further off than even I'd like to admit. I understand that the WiMax is a more serious "bump in the road" than some of the other stuff, but it's such an integral part of the device! So with that said, I definitely will when it drops!
[EVO 4G Android Development] jgrand03:
Put me down for a $10 CM6 user on my Nexus and my Evo would love to see 4g seeing as how I'm in a 4g city
[EVO 4G Android Development] the.tall.man:
i'm good for 20.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Jason0071:
So plan is too start donations next Sunday, no problem for me. So, this getting started through paypal?
[EVO 4G Android Development] p-slim:
I'm only donating through PayPal, I believe that is what the majority will do, therefore PayPal is good.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mikeinghilterra:
Put me down for $50
[EVO 4G Android Development] beandog:
Put me down for $25 if it can happen in 6.0.
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
It's been confirmed that it won't be in 6.0, but maybe in 6.1 as stated in the OP.

Swyped from my EVO via the XDA App
[EVO 4G Android Development] beandog:
I thought the idea was to pay them to change their minds?

Anyway, count me in.
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
The purpose of the pool is to provide them with resources to allocate more time and manpower to working 4G. But thanks for the contribution! :)

Swyped from my EVO via the XDA App
[EVO 4G Android Development] mmegalodon:
Yeah, that's why I was thinking it might not be as soon as some were thinking. I'd want to believe that throwing money at the problem NOW was a sure shot, but as it might be a more taxing task than some think I'd rather not count my chickens yet. Or put all my eggs in the same basket. Or however the **** that goes. :)

You know how many people will donate when it happens? You all are close to getting that Evo, provided it's the necessary step; all hell will break loose.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Yes, through PayPal.

I have a verified account and everything. My bank account is linked, my credit cards are linked, etc.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
New total is $420! Let's keep the ball rolling!
[EVO 4G Android Development] zikronix:
while im thinking about throwing some chips towards the cause. I would like to see fmradio, and the actual rom not drinking the battery like its freakin free beer.

With that being said we should be getting 4g in sept (4g/lte testing begins (yay for arizona))
[EVO 4G Android Development] P_Dub_S:
Whoah wait a minute why do all donations need to go to you first don't you think everyone should be sending him their donation directly with a memo attached say for 4G. I'm not saying your gonna scam everyone but it's possible so lookout everyone.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ViViDboarder:
Also, doesn't paypal take a % out of every transaction? It'd be much easier to go straight to the dev working on it. Like MadCoder...

I'm happy to donate when I see a working beta or demo of it. Probably when I get my phone repaired though. As it stands I have no working 4G radio. I was one of the unlucky few who flashed that Unrevoked update that mucked all the 4G radios up.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mmegalodon:
I'd trust it, my beef is time wise. I might move on to a different phone by the time this gets added. Believe you me I'm enjoying the hell out this ROM, but I might be changing up soon. Only thing holding me back from donating. Not to mention I'll donate to the individual directly when it happens, as I'm sure many others will.
[EVO 4G Android Development] berkmanmd:
I'm in for $20
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Is there a way to set up a communal pool with PayPal?

How have pools worked in the past?

If I scammed everyone and stole the money, they could always trace my IP, etc.

Also, I'm on Twitter, Facebook, etc., and I write for AndroidGuys.com. I'm not going anywhere. You can look my full name up at any of those places. Plus, I'm entering my third year of law school and therefore am taking the bar exam next summer. I need a squeaky clean record, so believe me this is not a scam.

That being said, I'm looking into setting up a communal pool via PayPal or a similar website. Sit tight.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
I remember. That stinks.
[EVO 4G Android Development] sprockets2000:
I know this message will sound ungrateful but im not just real about what you were trying to do here. You hadt his idea that if a lot of people donated and the pool got higher that the devs would pump out 4g but brother its been months I dont think this pool has given them any real incentive to pump it out at all or it would be done.

So do they still get the money, im all for donating to devels (however I dont use CM) or do they not now. I had this thought that the pool was created to in a way force them to work on 4g faster rather than slower.

ANyways,

Cheers.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
i don't think anyone was under the pretense that just because money was involved it would get done faster. This is more of a reward for open source wimax for all the evo community instead of a bounty to focus on wimax, which they are currently doing. when your not dealing from a full deck there is going to be delays
[EVO 4G Android Development] LifeInTheGrey:
You were correct in your assertion that the message would sound ungrateful.

To explain in the most laymen of terms, essentially the project lies on a path that resembles a very long teeter-totter. At the other end, the completed project lies. On this side, there are those that ***** about its lack of completion and post merely as a metaphorical weight on this end, raising the completed-project end higher and therefore making it more difficult to navigate to from this end. In essence, posts such as yours are contributing to the problem and not the solution.

Hopefully that paints a good enough picture of the scenario.
[EVO 4G Android Development] strung:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incentive
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
So eloquently put. Well done!

Swyped from my EVO
[EVO 4G Android Development] Vandelay007:
I am in for $20 also....I miss CM6 from my hero days.....keep up the great work toast!

Sent from my froyo using the xda app
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shinzul:
It's not about money motivating people... it's about needing more information.

We're working on it, but it's a very complex problem and not a lot of information available. Believe me, when we get something to work, you guys will be the first to know.
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
good to see someone else on board. i hope you know what you've gotten yourself into ;)

good luck! :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Love it! Best of luck.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shinzul:
Hah, Toast made sure to get me into it really quickly... neck deep in it now, no turning back :eek:
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
haha good luck. let me know if you guys need anything, testers, extra pair of hands, whatever.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dj_L:
My usual disclaimer: I have little time and I haven't researched much, so take with a grain of salt and verify before acting on my comments.

I'd imagine licensing for redistribution would be pretty expensive, however, if purchasing a reference board to play with, they would provide us the C API's for S3Max (I don't know if this would be useful or if they'd even sell to an individual). Even if not provided for distribution, someone could do a complete re-implementation (I'm still curious about EAP), but at this point it seems Toast is far enough along that it probably wouldn't help much on his current path (or for this generation of WiMax, but in the future, when Clear changes their network, who knows).

More info on the chip used in the evo:

http://www.sequans.com/products-solutions/mobile-wimax/sqn1210/

And on the little bit I've found on the connection software (not even sure if this is used on the evo):

http://www.sequans.com/technology/s3max/

-- DJ Lucas

PS Also on board if you need additional testers. Email please.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ViViDboarder:
Just thought I'd post up here.

New to Android development but I've had about 2 years of Java experience and just got CM 6.1 to compile on my home computer. Oh, and I live in a 4G area.

How can I help? :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
I am also willing to test. Let me know.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
PM toast or hop on irc://irc.freenode.net/#cm6-snap
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Awesome username, Art.
[EVO 4G Android Development] HondaCop:
LOL I know, I was just being sarcastic. :)

Sent via my EVO from the back seat of your Momma's SUV.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xHausx:
I'm sure this has already been mentioned but I figured I would post it just in case. HTC has littered references to wimax all throughout their ROMs, I was using apktool to try and help port ROMs and was amazed to see how scattered they were.

Just a few of them are:

services.jar	- StatusBarPolicy$HtcFeatureList.java

services.jar	- ConnectivityService.java (line 1889 to 1956) x10

services.jar	- WimaxService$1.java

services.jar	- WimaxService.java

gps.conf	- DISABLE_AGPS_WHEN_WIMAX/_ROAMING=true

framework.jar	- HtcBuildFlag.java (line 441)

framework-res.jar - ...

I had much more but the file didnt save... :mad:
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
exactly. if you think about it, it's not a very cohesive implementation. that's why it's tough to reverse engineer it when it's literally all over the place.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shinzul:
We may hit you up at some point to test something once we have it compiled in CM... prob PM you if and when it's ready.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cordell12:
I got $ 100 is we can force this to work on HTC Hero as well :-)

LOL it was worth a shot!
[EVO 4G Android Development] ViViDboarder:
I was actually looking to help out with development. PM'd toast and got some info on the progress.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
I'm pretty sure he knew that.
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
lol yea, i knew. i just wanted to make sure i responded to hondacop before the newbie cm users jumped on him for asking. hondacop, like me and you, is cm nightly vet :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Why does that not surprise me?
[EVO 4G Android Development] sarahlegs:
I just want to say, hooray to you guys for jumping into the fray with toast. Go team go!
[EVO 4G Android Development] strung:
Godspeed. Reverse engineering is a lot harder than the other way around :)

Can you share anything here? I would like to jump in I just need help getting started. I know Java & Linux
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
pm toast and jump on the #htc-evo irc channel.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shinzul:
Here's a juicy morsel:
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
i believe i need to start stalking you more closely, my friend...
[EVO 4G Android Development] Crossrocker:
Ahaha what's the code mean?

A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on the IPhone. We now have the Htc Evo.

CM6.1 nightlies with zendroid CFS kernel.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dj_L:
Thanks for giving us a little something to drool over. :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] LifeInTheGrey:
I'm a big fan of word combinations involving wimax and true. :)

Ride that evo train
[EVO 4G Android Development] jessesse:
Keep up the good work... all I want for xmas is wimax

:')
[EVO 4G Android Development] p-slim:
Yeah I definitely agree, once that day happens I can actually put cm6 on all my friends phones. Since they know nothing of modding and flashing roms giving them a non 4g rom isn't an option when they pay that $10 a month.
[EVO 4G Android Development] david279:
From twitter ....

@Shinzul Working on creating a small .apk to enable wimax atm

I wish I has wimax in my area.

Sent from my EVO 4G.
[EVO 4G Android Development] p-slim:
who's twitter is that?

Edit: I found it
[EVO 4G Android Development] david279:
rehtonAesoohC I assume.

Sent from my EVO 4G.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shinzul:
Here's an update:

Basically, toast and I have figured out how to hack the HTC wimax API that's wrapped around the Clear wimax API, which connects to the actual sequans chip. It's really convoluted.

But the bottom line is that we seem to be making a lot of progress.
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
can't wait for tonight's test results :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] abanh:
Great update on the progress. From the way you describe it, does it seem like HTC's coding for wimax is the reason it takes so long for it to connect to 4g? The Epic seems to connect faster to 4g.
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
hearing such great news recently makes me and my soon to be donated munniez happy
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shinzul:
It's more likely that the chip is faster - the Evo uses the first-gen sequans chip (the 1210 I believe) and there are like 6 iterations after that, so...
[EVO 4G Android Development] abanh:
Good to know... good luck on testing it out tonight.
[EVO 4G Android Development] sarahlegs:
/tearsofjoy
[EVO 4G Android Development] strung:
Nice !! How does it work ? That stuff in framework.jar com.htc.wimax is like a wrapper around the Sequans stuff ??
[EVO 4G Android Development] BigRick10:
Holy mother of chuck norris!
[EVO 4G Android Development] donatom3:
I'm in a 4G area, so if you guys need a tester I'm willing to help out.
[EVO 4G Android Development] BigRick10:
+1 My area ia now really covered with WiMax
[EVO 4G Android Development] strung:
Ditto +1 10 characterzzzzzz
[EVO 4G Android Development] pastert33:
I'm in a 4G area as well! Very excited to see the progress.
[EVO 4G Android Development] stangdriverdoug:
I've been careful to keep money in my paypal account for a donation when the time is right. I originally pledged $5 but I'll up it to 10-15 minimum and more if I can but money is tight as I have a mortgage to pay lol.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dj_L:
Yes, it seems so! Great work guys!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Crossrocker:
AHHHHH i can't wait. Imagine how many people will use cm? Cm will reign king of all roms. Lots of warm 2.2 gonna come her!! Who's excited for some cm noobs?

A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on the IPhone. We now have the Htc Evo.

CM6.1 nightlies with zendroid CFS kernel.
[EVO 4G Android Development] danEVO1000:
I will def. consider running CM if this happens!!;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] Crossrocker:
Once you see the speed and customization you'll say [edited by mod] sense

A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on the IPhone. We now have the Htc Evo.

CM6.1 nightlies with zendroid CFS kernel.
[EVO 4G Android Development] stangdriverdoug:
Open source from Cyanogen and Miui has really surpassed what the big manufactures have done with their proprietery UI's. Take for example HTC....instead if putting the r&d time into working on the Android operating system and making it better, they choose to put their energy into their silly Sense UI. Yuck!
[EVO 4G Android Development] bbv203:
Put me down for $25. Finally got to experience wimax when I was home for the holiday, and man is it nice, not nice enough to leave CM though
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
You post may have just resulted in this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLnWf1sQkjY
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Honestly, I don't like throwing $10 a month away, either. I blame HTC/Sprint, though, not Cyanogen & Co.

(I know you aren't blaming them. I am only making a point).
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
There's no wimax in the Big Easy yet? I'm shocked.

Having Reggie Bush on the Saints is punishment enough. Jeez.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Yipee! 10char
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Have you updated your wimax radio as of late? The most recent update (from September, I believe), boosted my speeds and I connect almost instantly now. By now, I mean I connected almost instantly when I flashed a Sense ROM to test 4G post-update, which was in September haha.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Haha they censored the "F" word but not "semen"? That's pretty funny.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mallman:
lol now thats funny
[EVO 4G Android Development] Crossrocker:
Lmao sorry mod! And anyway am i not correct? People go to myns for customization sense 4g and a faster rom. We all know that cm does customization and speed SO much better. And once we got 4g, we get atleast a few hundred people falling in love with cm. I mean seriously. The speed on cm is f ing ridiculous and I've used myns and sense and its fing slowwwww and laggy. I can't go back to sense anymore!

A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on the IPhone. We now have the Htc Evo.

CM6.1 nightlies with zendroid CFS kernel.
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
i don't mean to harp on your enthusiasm as i share your sentiments in its entirety too (long live aosp ;)), but, since i don't want this thread to become a "sense vs aosp" thread, let's try to keep the comparison posts to a minimum.

:)

ps. i honestly didn't mean to single you out as others have done it too, so please don't take this the wrong way!
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
GIFSoup
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
i was not expecting to bust a gut this morning. thank you for that, you wonderful bastard.
[EVO 4G Android Development] compneo:
No 4g in my area yet, but don't want to leave CM when it does.

Put me down for $10
[EVO 4G Android Development] abanh:
I have EVO_WiMAX_26023_R01, and it's the latest according to this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=715485
[EVO 4G Android Development] Crossrocker:
Yeahh I realize that. Haha sorry :P

A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on the IPhone. We now have the Htc Evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Haha anytime. Clearly, you weren't being rude, but you prefaced your response by stating, "I'm not trying to be rude (or something like that)", so I just had to post that gif :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
haha i wouldn't have expected any less from you :p
[EVO 4G Android Development] tokuzumi:
I get really good 4g signal at my house. Let me know if I can help test.
[EVO 4G Android Development] p-slim:
I also get good 4G at home. Ready to lend a helping hand
[EVO 4G Android Development] mallman:
same here

10char
[EVO 4G Android Development] nabbed:
Can no one program a 4g driver from scratch, or reverse engineer an existing driver?

I'd really love a technical explanation why this problem hasn't been solved yet...
[EVO 4G Android Development] pastert33:
Did you happen to read a little??? How bout you contribute with reverse engineering... since you want an explanation to this problem! This isn't something that's easily done!
[EVO 4G Android Development] p-slim:
I really want to give you the answer but it sounds soo much better coming from shift, kpoz, or cyanogen :)