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[Windows Mobile] etoy:
if you want i can localize and upload both CFCd and original WVGA 2018 packages like i already did with 2016, as soon as i find some free time.

i think i can skip 2.5.20182114.0 and jump directly over 2.5.20182814.0 from Oboe 1.03,which is the one actually programatix is porting to VGA
[Windows Mobile] O.a.T.:
Yes, Yes! Please do so. Thanks in advance.
[Windows Mobile] mwalt2:
You guys do realize that either etoy or someone else (can't remember who and it seems like there may have been 2 made...) wrote a manila lang mover exe that you just double click in the manila directory to localize all of the files, right? If you can double click, you can localize your manila with that tool :).
[Windows Mobile] mkucuksari:
Original WVGA Package Version Confirmation !!

Hi Etoy,

Just for confirmation and to be sure, "Programatix" has used "

2.5.20182114.0

" version for porting, not "

2.5.20182814.0

" version, right ??

At least this is what I understand from his first post, as

If someone is sure and can say that we can also use "

2.5.20182814.0

" as original packages, then no problem, lets use the newest one :)

NOTE: I have not tried to cook a new ROM with using new packages yet. So personally I don't have any idea :)
[Windows Mobile] etoy:
ted973 developed it,i just gave him some advice on how the localized folder should be and the localization codes. he did the job! now it's very easier to prepare the whole folders..they just need cfc'ing and some hex editing

a few posts above he stated this:

he re-ported all the 2814 tabs but he didn't release them yet. there's only 2114 VGA port on first page. i can prepare them both,not a problem..didn't try the 2814 ones yet :)
[Windows Mobile] mkucuksari:
Hi,

Sorry, somehow I missed this post :o Thanks for reminding :)

If you can prepair and share

Non-CFC WVGA packages for both version

, it will be very helpfull.

Actually I found a Non-CFC WWE version for 2114 from somewhere,can not remember where, but not tried yet. But I am sure your work will be best one.

Thanks for everything again :)
[Windows Mobile] hasseye:
although i'm not expert by anymeans....the packages are so close together that most likely very little has changed and has nothing to do with the VGA port.

I say we try and use the latest, most likely a newer version is on its way anywasy.

also mwalt, i would easily do the conversions myself, however the original wvga is only chinese, so how could i convert that over to 0409 WWE?
[Windows Mobile] mwalt2:
All the localization does is remove the language files already present in manila so that you don't cook in a few hundred unnecessary _manila files. All languages are already present in all versions of sense. All you need from 0409 is the weather database which you can get from the 2016 dump. If you look at dumped manila packages, I think only core and home contain language folders. If I remember right, the core language folder has the weather database in it and the home one contains some registry entries (not at home, so I can't check for sure).
[Windows Mobile] etoy:
ok,here's both CFC and non-CFC 2018 packages,original and untouched WVGA

SENSE 2.5.2018.2814 NON-CFC

SENSE 2.5.2018.2814 CFC

SENSE 2.5.2018.2114 NON-CFC

SENSE 2.5.2018.2114 CFC

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@mwalt2: home tab does not have any 0409/0804 files in its folder,only core has got the weather database (2330fc3c_manila) and an app.reg with some reg keys:

REGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\CHome]
"Enabled"=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Today\Items\"Windows Default"]
"Enabled"=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Shell\StartInfo\Start\HTC_People.lnk]
"Icon"="\\Windows\\HTC_people.png"
"Rank"=dword:35A4EC46
"Name"="People"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Shell\StartInfo\Start\HTC_Calendar.lnk]
"Icon"="\\Windows\\HTC_calendar.png"
"Rank"=dword:35A4EBF6
"Name"="HTC Calendar"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Shell\StartInfo\Start\HTC_Music.lnk]
"Icon"="\\Windows\\HTC_music.png"
"Rank"=dword:35A4EBA6
"Name"="Music"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Shell\StartInfo\Start\HTC_Footprints.lnk]
"Icon"="\\Windows\\HTC_footprint.png"
"Rank"=dword:35A4EB56
"Name"="Footprints"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Shell\StartInfo\Start\HTC CallHistory.lnk]
"Icon"="\\Windows\\HTC_callhistory.png"
"Name"="Call History"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Shell\StartInfo\Start\HTC_CallHistory.lnk]
"Icon"="\\Windows\\HTC_call_history.png"
"Name"="Call History"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Shell\StartInfo\Start\HTC_Twitter.lnk]
"Icon"="\\Windows\\HTC_twitter.png"
"Name"="Peep"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Shell\StartInfo\Start\HTC_eReader.lnk]
"Icon"="\\Windows\\HTC_reader.png"
"Name"="HTC Reader"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Shell\StartInfo]
"HideSettings"=dword:1
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\Manila]
"IsShortcutEnable"=dword:1
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\Manila]
"IsCallHistoryEnable"=dword:1

they're pretty useless but i left them in 0409/0804 folders.

i prefer leaving the original wvga packages untouched and fixing them via VGA port files.
[Windows Mobile] mkucuksari:
Hi Etoy,

Thanks. One more great job, well done :)
[Windows Mobile] programatix:
Hi guys,

I just posted my VGA port for Sense 2.5.20182814 in post #1.

Regarding a request to mod the Internet tab to have smaller Internet icon, I've already done that, but it causes some major problem. If drag-to-remove feature is used, Sense would crash. So I decided not to include it. Anyway drag-to-remove implementation is a total headache.

I wish you all good luck with this (possible last) gift from me and hope that someone out there who is still tinkering with Sense would emerge and be the next Sense porter. :)

I would however try my best to fix any major bugs if reported.
[Windows Mobile] thecrazyman64:
Thanks a lot programatix! You keep alive our VGA devices.

I know it is a bit off-topic but what is this: [link] ?:)

Edit: Thanks for your answer!
[Windows Mobile] programatix:
Downloading. Will try later.

EDIT: It seems like its a stupid joke someone trying to make. It's Sense 2.5.1919 and dated 24 Sept 2009.
[Windows Mobile] mkucuksari:
Hi Programatix,

Thanks a lot for your work and support.With your great portingS, you keep alive our VGA devices.

Again many many thanks.:)

NOTE We hope this porting will NOT be the LAST GIFT for us :o

Regards
[Windows Mobile] etoy:
thanks a lot programatix,hope you'll not disappear after completing this port,even if almost all the previous porters did so! thanks a lot for trying the internet small icons mod..at least you tried it :)

--

if someone wants to try porting some other mods from older builds to 2018 here's a suggestion:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4956659&postcount=8

it would be good to port the "Still Wallpaper" mod which enables a menu choice for

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\Manila]
"Home.WallpaperMode"=dword:00000002

which disables the annoying weather animation on home tab
[Windows Mobile] programatix:
Attached is the test lua script I'm working on. Maybe someone can resume the work.

The Internet icon and its text supposed to be correctly placed until I move the shortcuts list up. So, now both the Internet icon and its text being pushed up too. Please take a look at lines 513 and 518. Change their respective Y value. Line 1269 is where I change to move the shortcuts list up.

Again, when you change the position of the shortcuts list, starting the drag-to-remove session would crash Sense. However there is an easy way out... disable the drag-to-remove feature. :)
[Windows Mobile] etoy:
wow,i hope to understand something from that,i'm not really good at lua script :)

i'd personally prefer having the drag function disabled and smaller icons,is it possible to have?

thanks a lot for your precious infos..i'm very interested in those explanations!
[Windows Mobile] abrasive:
Regarding the settings tab, can I use the new version and then apply the old ported one? Or will that make it look messed up?
[Windows Mobile] Captain_Throwback:
New Sense 2018 build (already?!)

Thanks for all your hard work, programatix!

If I hadn't just bought a house, I'd definitely be throwing a few bucks your way! :)

A new Oboe ROM has emerged of course, with a newer version of Sense 2018 (Debug ROM). I wouldn't suggest anyone port this (not that there's anything wrong with it, but all of the recently posted packages have been from "Test" or "Debug" ROMs).

I (and probably everyone else here who still uses a VGA device) was perhaps hoping that you'd do one last port (of the Sense packages from an Oboe Ship ROM, whenever a new one emerges? That would ensure most of the bug testing has been completed by HTC, and any/all debug code should be removed. Just a thought.

If not, hopefully you're right, and the next big porter will come along and help us poor Manila n00bs out :eek:.

Thanks again!!
[Windows Mobile] etoy:
lol i just finished uploading the 2814 manila from 1.03 oboe here and a newer one was released!

btw it's good that they're on debug stage,probably ship version is near :)
[Windows Mobile] abrasive:
I'm trying to learn how it works. LUA looks like a mix of VB and js to me. But there are so many files to go through (kudos again to programatix)...

Have you got an index of which files are related to what?
[Windows Mobile] abrasive:
Haha, life's a ***** and then you die.
[Windows Mobile] etoy:
i'm,complete zero with LUA,but i've seen that when you decompile manila files with manila kitchen,it creates a nice subfolder system where all the files are sorted by tabs,images,layout,etc.. and they help a lot to find the exact file you need.
[Windows Mobile] abrasive:
Edit: I was using LuaTool 1.2, maybe LuaDec 2.0 works better then?
[Windows Mobile] etoy:
manila kitchen CMD environment,you can get it here

in short words,all you have to do is put manila files in _SOURCE folder then open the command prompt shortcut and type:

manilatool.cmd -oem:2.5
manilatool.cmd -mnf
manilatool.cmd -dec

then it will decompile all the files and create all the subsystem in repository and workspace. we can talk more on its dedicated thread as we're a little offtopic here. or you can better ask to others there, as my knowledge is really limited :)
[Windows Mobile] abrasive:
I'm unable to get this version to start. It tries to launch it and then it says tap here to lauch sense. I'm using the package on first page and the package with original files by etoy. Is there anything else but these files I need in order to get it working, because 2016 is working fine with my setup :/

I'm on 6.1.
[Windows Mobile] programatix:
As long as I'm still cooking my Exquisite ROM, I'll be around to help. I would like to see that the shipped version of Sense 2018 gets ported too, but I won't be aggressively port it as I did before (been sleeping late to finish up the port and sleepy at work).

Anyway, between the first port and the second port of 2018, there are some changes, mainly to the mode9 files. Not sure about the just released debug version. However cooking the ported file over it will work, unless there are major changes like new features added. If it is a bug fix, it would probably been fixed by me during porting. I'm now running it with the port and no ill effect can be seen.

Please note that some of the packages in the latest debug are older than the test release.
[Windows Mobile] etoy:
only thing i can think is that you extracted the newer 2018 starticonloader with the wvga manila files and it gets overwritten by older 2016 one that you eventually left in your kitchen..otherwise don't have other ideas :confused: didn't already test 2814 packages,only 2114 and they started at first run.
[Windows Mobile] abrasive:
I don't know what's wrong, I've tried both 2814 and 2114. No luck, I've even tried your original kitchen. Only thing I changed was that I excluded everything from Tweaks except HTCFramework, gsensor and 6.1 tweak. Disabled everything in addons, inlucded the new packages and excluded the old starticon.
[Windows Mobile] etoy:
as i get back home i can give you my build log,if you want.

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other than that,i'm happy to see that the "Still Wallpaper" mod for sense 2.5.192x kind of works with 2018,i did a rude overwrite just to check if it's usable.

sorry if it's in italian,the last picture asks if you want to set the default wallpaper (which is missing usually),rest is this

for those who want to try:

http://manilavga.googlecode.com/svn...Menu/Manila_1921_Still_Wallpaper_Menu_1.1.zip

there's also a source folder inside,in case someone wants (and knows how) to port it to 2018.

there's some "TOPAZ S2" code inside some of the files,i don't know if it actually breaks some function..
[Windows Mobile] abrasive:
MUCH appreciated
[Windows Mobile] hasseye:
when you say "you eventually left in your kitchen"...whose kitchen are you using....i'm looking for a modified and organized kitchen where i can then update certain folders to suit the needs of my cdma diamond...thats the easy part tho

my kitchen is to old and unorganized now for me to start correcting it since the end is near for our vga devices.
[Windows Mobile] abrasive:
In that case I was using etoys kitchen:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5640640&postcount=3

But I'm using Gen.Y's kitchen mostly:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=595380

There's almost nothing left from the original kitchen though, and I'm unsure about if it works with CDMA..
[Windows Mobile] abrasive:
etoy: I got it working, I missed that the Twitter and Stock tabs weren't included.
[Windows Mobile] etoy:
ah great! i'm happy that you solved it that easy :)
[Windows Mobile] abrasive:
Yes, me too :)

I've got another problem now, Manila locks up when I use the Call History tab under People. Tried both the new manila.exe and mode9 and the old ones from 2016.
[Windows Mobile] O.a.T.:
Where is RSS Hub?

I found it.
[Windows Mobile] O.a.T.:
Settings Tab/Home Screen Tabs

Ok, I've seen this problem on CHT & MaxSense. I can't scroll all the way to the bottom of the settings tab to select either of the last 2 entries; Other & About Phone. The screen won't stay stationary at the bottom, it keeps rolling down automatically.

Similarly, if I've selected the Home Screen Tabs item on the Settings Tab/Personalize, I can't get down to the Stocks or Settings items because, again the screen keeps automatically rolling down. Anyone else seeing this behavior/ know what I did wrong? Thanks in advance.
[Windows Mobile] programatix:
Because I didn't port the Setting tab?
[Windows Mobile] O.a.T.:
So I should use a 2016 Settings tab?
[Windows Mobile] etoy:
i think i used 2018 settings tab with 2016 port but not 100% sure..

btw if i use htc messaging client i can safely use all the 2018 tabs,right?

(plus older stocks and twitter of course..)

someone can confirm that please?
[Windows Mobile] programatix:
Yes, you can send sms without problem and has no scrolling problem. The facebook page would still crash sense, so you'll need to use manila.exe from 2016. Also, you'll get some blank menu because it has not been translated.
[Windows Mobile] celoni:
hi guys i'm trying this new manila...using the message,settings tab from 2016 and twitter and stock from 2012....all is working fine and good....but how can i use the rss reader in home tab???....when i tap it it redirect me to the rss application and let me choose the channel....but in the home tab they aren't showed...what i have to do to see them in the home tab???...another things...wich program can i use to mod some translation???

EDIT:people tab is 2018
[Windows Mobile] etoy:
you probably need a newer version of RSS hub. grab one from the latest oboe dumped EXTs. what translations are you talking about?
[Windows Mobile] celoni:
can you share it???...i don't wanna dump an entire rom for one EXT.....for example now that i havn't rss it says:IDS_TITLE...and in people IDS_BACKUP_PEOPLE...seems that part of 0410 code is missing for new element
[Windows Mobile] etoy:
i'm at work atm,don't have my kitchen with me :) i extracted the home file from my phone,it has all the needed 0410 code already translated!

edit:

found it off another forum,attached the 0409 version. just copy the existing 0410 inside,it works with no problems.

edit2:

programatix already did it :)
[Windows Mobile] programatix:
http://www.mobileunderground.info/showthread.php?t=20557&p=50777#post50777
[Windows Mobile] celoni:
thanks my friend:)
[Windows Mobile] abrasive:
Does anyone know why manila locks up when I switch to Updates & Events?
[Windows Mobile] O.a.T.:
Yes, please. Can anyone confirm either/both of these?
[Windows Mobile] O.a.T.:
Maybe this will help someone cooking up the new 2018, as I am relatively happy with what I have, except for 2 "minor" issues. And maybe I'll get some suggestions for how to fix my remaining problems?

First, I don't cook HTC Message Client into my roms, because I am one of those unfortunates with a Sprint/CDMA Diamond. Basically, I've followed Programatix's faq's and used all the new tabs except People and Message; there I'm using the 2016 versions. I've also included Programatix's Internet Tab & People Icons. Finally, I substituted manila.exe and mode9.dll from Core 2016 into Core 2018. I continue to use Twitter and Stocks from 2012.

Everything, including SMS, is working well. My only 2 minor problems are first, the one described a few posts up about being unable to select the last two items from the Settings tab and the related Personalize/Home Screen Tabs adjustment. Programatix has indicated this is because the 2018 Settings package wasn't converted, so a possible solution there is to cook in some combination of 2016 and 2018 packages as etoy mentioned and which we await for confirmation. My other issues is I am unable to alter my home wallpaper, animated or weather. Looks like there has also been some discussion on that by the Capt., with a possible solution including various 2012, 2016, and 2018 packages.

If others would detail the combination of 2012, 2016, and 2018 packages that they have cooked into their roms, along with any issues they are facing, this could be very helpful to the vga community at large.
[Windows Mobile] abrasive:
I've got two requests. Is it possible to change the font weight for the tab names (the ones on the very top)? Also, on the home tab there's a thick white line between the taskbar and Manila (just above where the operator text is located). It that could be removed it'd be great too :)

Finally, if any of those settings can be changed by registry, please tell me!
[Windows Mobile] Captain_Throwback:
Quick question on the above - what settings are these? I'm using this same Manila version on my Tilt 2 & didn't notice anything extra (at least nothing I couldn't disable with a simple reg edit). All of the Options appear to be the same to me :confused:.
[Windows Mobile] hasseye:
kitchen

anyone have an updated 2018 kitchen there willing up load? im having compiling errors with mine and dont have time to debug the problem, not to mention 2018 got me confused as hell. lol
[Windows Mobile] programatix:
Well, if you look inside the Setting folder in the package I've posted, it's actually empty, except for the app.reg and app.dat. In another words... you should either be cooking in Setting from 2016+port or try replacing it with 2016 port. I haven't try the 2018 WVGA + 2016 VGA port yet... so I do not know what would happen. :)

Regarding the wallpaper, mine seems to work fine.

See attached screenshot. Both are set to execute some new EXT packages found in OBOE rom. Can be removed by editing one of the manila file (in xml), but I'm lazy... :p

Both are possible... if someone is willing to do it.
[Windows Mobile] ted973:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\HTCSettings_Improvement]
"HaveIPDial"=dword:1 ;to 0
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\Manila]
"People_IPDialing"=dword:1 ;to 0
[Windows Mobile] O.a.T.:
Thanks. Guess I'll go with the sure bet, the 2016 + port. Now if I can only find out what's going on with the wallpaper.
[Windows Mobile] programatix:
I'm pretty sure that I already done that and it is still there. Furthermore, there is another one, the location setting thing.

I've just tested Setting 2018 WVGA + 2016 VGA Port and it seems fine.
[Windows Mobile] abrasive:
I'm willing, in which file might the text issue be?
[Windows Mobile] etoy:
i already use 2018 settings tab and 2016 vga port,it works flawlessly. i just used those two reg keys from the settings app.reg (noipdial etc..) and there isn't new settings anymore.

i hope to find some time soon to mess with 2018 and set up an updated kitchen like i did with 2016..

btw my beta 2018 is rocking since programatix posted his first port and no problems yet,only a little facebook flaw..photos and comments from fb are not updating in people tab.

other than that..just minor misalignments that i've already told on first page,all the rest is ok :)
[Windows Mobile] Captain_Throwback:
This gets rid of both options:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\HTCSettings_Improvement]
"HavePersonalSecurity"=dword:[B]0[/B]
"HaveIPDial"=dword:[B]0[/B]

I also change this one, for good measure:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\HTCSettings_Improvement]
"DisableWindowsUpdate"=dword:[B]1[/B]
[Windows Mobile] etoy:
those two above ones are exactly what i meant. thanks for the third one! :)
[Windows Mobile] abrasive:
I've moded three files to make the fonts lighter and some other stuff.

Core:

3a8e04af_manila - Changes the font and font weight on all top titles.

Home:

5e401f28_manila - Changes the font and font weight for the time in Local Time & Date, Set Alarm and fixes the position of the description box under Set Alarm.

7c60907d_manila - Moves the operator text a bit farther up. Fixes the position of the title clock, however I don't know if the positioning for AM and PM are correct. Changes font and font weight.

22e41977_manila - Removes the white line between the taskbar and Manila. Thanks to mwalt2 for the code tip.
[Windows Mobile] mkucuksari:
Hi Captain,

Thanks for sharing, I will try it anyway, but just before doing that I want to get a confirmation :o

If we add the missing above reg entries, can we use "Settings_2018 WVGA" package without any problem ?? The reason for asking is, when I check "Settings_2016 VGA Port" packages, I see many LUA files. Don't we still need to use them ??

I hope I am clear enough :o
[Windows Mobile] mkucuksari:
Hi Programatix,

While I was looking at VGA ported packages, I have seen "

05b6f7b2_manila

" CFC-QTC file in "Weather_2.5.2018.2814_VGA" packages.

I am cooking "Non-CFC" version. When I check and search this file in WVGA packages supplied by Etoy, I could not find it. And somehow, neither by using your "CFC tool" nor "m9editor", I can not convert it into "Non-CFC".

I have also check the weather tab and "weather demo" at home page, everything seems to be okey :confused:

So shortly.

1-Could you please explain what is the function of "05b6f7b2_manila" in VGA Weather package.

2-If it is important and I am missing something, could you please share its NON-CFC version.

3-Could you also please share "Internet Tab Icons" in "Programatix Sense 2.5.2018 Icons Mod (CFC)" ? I have succesfully convert "People 2nd Layer Icons" and "People Group Action Icons" but somehow did not work for it.

I have just finished cooking my first "Hypbrid 2018-16 ROM-BETA" with your great Ported work.

Everything seems working perfect, except some minor cosmetic issues.:D

Great work, again and again many thanks for your effort/support for helping us to keep continue to use our poor old device :)
[Windows Mobile] O.a.T.:
Thanks a bunch to all 3 of you; with the above got my settings tab problem straightened out. Learned a lesson also in terms of looking in the packages to see if there are any files (lol!).

Also, found my problem with not being able to specify wallpapers. I've been testing voldeus' latest unreleased version of bgtweak and seems it was the culprit. Went back to the 0.4 version and it is almost perfect, except for a problem with the shade between the task bar and the remaining portion of the home tab. Interestingly enough, the other tabs do look right. Any help on this is appreciated.
[Windows Mobile] O.a.T.:
A small donation coming your way. 7W30938420603274U

Again, I am going to strongly encourage the user's of my rom to also make a donation.