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[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Are you serious? Please confirm.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Me, three.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
You may be on the right track, but again, they are unwilling to use HTC's proprietary code, and for good reason. They want to avoid a lawsuit.

Ergo, they are writing the code from scratch. Good line of reasoning, however.
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
Well, it's not as easy as just throwing the proprietary wimax module into a non-Sense rom or the module into CM and expect it to work. Wimax is so heavily integrated into the layers of sense that making it talk to a non-sense kernel is quite hard.

Swyped from my EVO via the XDA app
[EVO 4G Android Development] sheva85:
Fairly new to the community, and I haven't contributed much from a technical standpoint, but I'm DEFINITELY going to contribute for all the awesome work you guys have done. Count me in for $15. =)
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Haha I know. I try not to think about how complicated it must be.
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
lol same here. i was just responding to pongoface. it's not that simple, and it can't work.

*shrugs*
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
I send a PM to the individual who pledged $100 a page back for confirmation.
[EVO 4G Android Development] vboyz103:
So did we work out an agreement with Dev on this yet?
[EVO 4G Android Development] p-slim:
I don't think that gentleman was actually pledging $100, just to be real. I would remove his pledge until he confirms it for sure.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Not yet. They do not want donations until 4G is complete. However, discussions are ongoing.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shauli20:
This is a little off topic, but I was wondering what exactly is the issue that is preventing 4G from working on CM6? Is it the kernel only? Because I just read in some other thread that the Snap kernels which are technically meant for CM6 actually work on some Sense ROMs but have the same limitations as CM6 itself, namely no 4G or HDMI. So what would happen if I ran one of the custom Sense kernels, like King's or Netarchy's, on CM6? Would it even work, and if it does would it possibly support 4G? Or is it something more fundamental in CM6 which is preventing 4G from working?
[EVO 4G Android Development] p-slim:
the cm6 kernal DOES support 4G, but thats not where the problem lies. the problem is they have no actual program to run it. the reason your camera app looks different then htc's is because cyanogen wrote or created his own camera app, its the same thing with the program that turns 4g on and off and actually connects. cyanogen and/or team need to create the 4g program from scratch (reverse engineer). technically they could just copy htc's source and put it in their rom but then htc did not open source their code and would sue cyanogen and it would be all bad.
[EVO 4G Android Development] pongoface:
Cm6 does not have the wimax files to support the HTC based kernels. This is what I am trying to stir up. Cm6 is open source meaning from the ground up basically. I will be trying to push HTC wimax files tonight to cm6 which I had done before but I need a kernel that supports HTC wimax and cm6. I don't see it happening.
[EVO 4G Android Development] p-slim:
madcoder and toast updated the commits and their new kernal does support wimax now.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shauli20:
If the issue is only the program to actually use 4G then why would 4G not work when using a Snap kernel on a Sense ROM?

Or is it both - you need the kernel to support it and a program to use it?
[EVO 4G Android Development] p-slim:
that i don't understand, but i'm just relying what was posted on toast's and madcoders twitter. both have stated that the kernal was updated to support wimax, hold on i will post the twitters.

@cmsrc cm-kernel/supersonic-2.6.34 - toastcfh *[Wimax] adding in support for wimax
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shauli20:
So what does that mean? Mission complete? We can now use 4G on CM6 or is this only the first step in getting there?
[EVO 4G Android Development] p-slim:
Getting kernal support was easy, now they need the program that will actually run the 4g
[EVO 4G Android Development] pongoface:
Where can I get this kernel????
[EVO 4G Android Development] p-slim:
Its already in the newest nightly, but you would have to build it yourself from their source off github if you want it on another rom. But remember I doubt they put sense support in it. There is a thread with sense support in the development section
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shauli20:
Why would you want their kernel anyway if you're using Sense?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Ep3n3wp:
Wait is 4g available on cm6 now?

I'm kinda confused what's going on? As of right now count me in for 5 bucks (possibly more later) this its only thing/reason I haven't used cm6 I live where 4g is and rely on it for tether...
[EVO 4G Android Development] bigant262:
So the new kernel is going to be in tonights nightly correct? And are they still working on HDMI out?
[EVO 4G Android Development] p-slim:
The new kernal has been in the nightlys for over a week now but 4g still doesn't work. Hdmi its still work in progress
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
for those wondering if wimax is working in cm6...

it's not. it's being worked on. yes, it is supported in the kernel code. however, that doesn't mean that it's working. sprint's 4g is proprietary and cm, by principle, will not implement that into their open source rom. it is not as easy as to throw a cm kernel into a sense rom and hope to whatever that wimax will work...

look at it this way... you made a landing zone in your backyard, and there's a liftpad at your friend's place. and the only mode of transportation is a helicopter. the thing is, it doesn't exist yet. that helicopter is the wimax on cm6. there's support (landing zone/liftpad), but no working way (that we know so far) to connect it to the wimax network.

with that said, toast and madcoder/maejrep are working on it. i have full faith these guys will bring it to us. not only that, there are reports that 4g is in cyanogen's area, so, once he gets his hands on a 4g connection, he has said he'll help toast and madcoder out with bringing wimax to cm6.

let's not jump to conclusions and start making frankenstein-esque builds to appease our misplaced frustrations.

thanks.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
4G is not available in the new kernel. Essentially, Madcoder and Toast laid the foundation for 4G, but the code is still in the oven.
[EVO 4G Android Development] p-slim:
yeah whether its in there or not, it still won't work until they reverse engineer it, kernal support is fairly simple. probably left it out to save space on the kernal
[EVO 4G Android Development] RichTJ99:
Guys, I think I am going to give this thread a few more days & then I am going to just make my donation with a note that its for 4G & all the great work team douche has done.

When that happens, I will post my transaction number (though I am not sure who cares or why) & I will be pulling out of this pool.

Kpoz - Do you have a preferred way for people like me who are going to donate to get that message across when donating?
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Not yet. The official statement is to withhold donations until 4G is released.
[EVO 4G Android Development] joerf1115:
Working on it!

Hey guys. I am working on this and plan to start the build tonight. I believe I have all my ducks in a row. Will let everyone know around Midnight CST.
[EVO 4G Android Development] p-slim:
if you get 4g working, you will become a rich man
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
interesting! have you shared your work with maejrep/madcoder and toast? it would be so awesome if you guys got together and hammered it all out... :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] p-slim:
honestly I don't even want him wasting time trying to share files and get in contact with them unless he gets stuck, it will probably take hours to get on the same page. not to mention he probably wants the bounty for himself. can you imagine 4g for the weekend on an open source rom. i'll personally give this guy $100 and post the transaction
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
oh i'm just being curious, that's all. you're right, it'd take longer to explain than to sync up with the other devs. on the other hand, toast and madcoder have a very good understanding of the cm kernel as well as the latest .3x family of kernels. some collaboration couldn't hurt.

in the end though, if he gets wimax operational on cm, hands down, my donation also goes to him.
[EVO 4G Android Development] p-slim:
don't take me serious, I'm just anxious, 2 minds are always better then one. but if he can do it himself I definitely would try first.
[EVO 4G Android Development] davenukem:
Holy ****? This weekend has the capacity to be ridiculously awesome now. Had to make the move to sense because I moved to providence for college (go brown bears ) but am missing cm soooo much.
[EVO 4G Android Development] whiteinge:
Just stumbled onto this thread from a random Google search. Haven't read all 40-back-pages but it sounds like the last missing component to get wimax on CM is a user-space app in order to connect to Sprint. Exciting. :)

I'm in for $20 forsure.
[EVO 4G Android Development] LC_Nab:
Sigh, I wish they implement 4G in Puerto Rico, but still count me in for $10 donation !!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Ep3n3wp:
Yay... Almost time!!!!!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] BigRick10:
Holy mother of Chuck Norris!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] smarcin:
Count me in for $20

I just started running CM nightly a few nights ago. We don't have 4g yet here in Minneapolis, but there's a launch party set for sometime in October. Having 4g on CM would be the icing on the cake! I can't believe how much faster CM is than sense.
[EVO 4G Android Development] joerf1115:
it's not done building yet :( I had some issues with the "current.xml" I will post once it finishes.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Ep3n3wp:
Wow midnight cst on the dot... Lol..

No problem... How is it going though? Have you got it to work at all?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Ep3n3wp:
Well keep us posted... Please...
[EVO 4G Android Development] hondoslack:
Sorry if I missed an explanation in a prior post, but what exactly are you "building"? An open source wimax kernel module? An open source settings library to enable/disable-connect to 4G network? All of the above? Lest we forgot that FOSS is required for cm and friends to incorporate this into a ROM, as has been reiterated M times.

I can understand the excitement, but isn't creaming your shorts over this a bit, um, premature?
[EVO 4G Android Development] ranmasaotome510:
i traced back the previous excitement, there was no explanation, which brings me to ask the same as you. What exactly is this dude building?

if its just going to allow me to access 4g through just the browser, and not let me tether through built in tether (as if it wasn't already built into the rom, and runs as a separate service). then i wouldn't consider it a solid development in my books.
[EVO 4G Android Development] haxrnick:
Not trying to start any controversy but I'm willing to bet it's a troll. 12 posts since 2007 and back in April asking for a google voice invite. Then ironically at midnight "something" didn't work. By all means, it if works I'll donate, but I don't see it happening.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Ep3n3wp:
Hope its not a troll....
[EVO 4G Android Development] wisenhimer:
Well I am not gonna waste my time searching under any bridges for him, but I suspect a green warty presence
[EVO 4G Android Development] Ep3n3wp:
Damn it... Was HOPING it was going to be for real... Lame!!!!¡
[EVO 4G Android Development] hondoslack:
Damn, I should know better than to fall for troll-bait. Oh well, at least we got everyone back down to half-mast...
[EVO 4G Android Development] jpatterson350:
"You gota pay the troll toll if you want to get in the boys hole". I love its always sunny in philadelphia. ha ha ha I hope we see 4G and full HDMI out but Im starting to have my doubts.

Fingers crossed!
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
New total is $1,230! Wooo!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhUSHMeCPGM&feature=related
[EVO 4G Android Development] pdlboy:
4G just went live in the Twin Cities so I switched to a Sense ROM to check it out. It's awesome fast, but wow, I miss CM6. It's a really hard choice between 4G speed and a ROM that doesn't suck. While I realize 4G in CM6 is going to be a long time coming, you can put me down for $40 when it makes it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Bargsbeer:
I have just been donating directly to Cyanogen , I figure every penny counts.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dougdascenzo:
So how do these pools work. Are you actually sending money in advance to the pool? What happens to the dough if the feature is never completed?
[EVO 4G Android Development] pdlboy:
To each their own. I do both. Donate now as thanks for all the hard work and pledge money as an incentive for a particular feature I'd like to see.
[EVO 4G Android Development] pdlboy:
We're pledging money that we will donate when (if) 4G is implemented.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Ep3n3wp:
So.... Any updates?
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
None yet. It's still being worked on, but cyanogen said he'd look into getting a Clear Wimax account and see if he can help toast and maejrep out. He said he'd look into it after the Android BBQ event, which just ended yesterday. Hopefully, we hear something in the next few days.

Swyped from my EVO via the XDA app
[EVO 4G Android Development] stangdriverdoug:
I guess it would help if he had a working 4g signal to see If it actually works.
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
Clear's Wimax has been deployed in his area.

Swyped from my EVO via the XDA app
[EVO 4G Android Development] Neotelos_com:
Aren't there services to actually pledge money in advance that can be refunded if not achieved by a certain date?

In basic, if a dev accomplishes this, they will probably only get 10% of what people said they would donate. What's to stop me from saying I'll donate $100 and then not keep my word when the time comes?
[EVO 4G Android Development] stangdriverdoug:
That's why they probably don't give threads like this too much weight. Hopefully they will get it going before the evo becomes obselete.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kamiller42:
That would be an escrow account. There should be some escrow servicers out there. They might charge a little to manage the account.
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
obsolete? i highly doubt it. there's the epic 4g that would require working wimax as well. someone on team douche is bringing cm to the galaxy s as well, so it's not just going to be for the evo. it'll be for all 4g/wimax capable phones.
[EVO 4G Android Development] stangdriverdoug:
Well they will pretty much have to get 4g working with all the new devices coming out. But the evo isnt going to last forever....i guess what im saying is that I hope they get it to the evo soon so I can enjoy 4g on cm before sprint releases another awesome touch screen 4g phone. A lot of people get upgrades every year so they are not holding on to their phones like they used to.
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
oh whoops (not enough coffee for today yet).. yes, i agree with you. in that sense, you're correct. i don't think, however, that it'll take them a year to get wimax working. once cyanogen takes a crack at it, i think we'll get some steam. toast, as hardworking as he is, is fine-tuning .34 as well as working on .35. maejrep/madcoder has been quiet lately. i still have faith that they'll make it work before i start thinking about getting a dual-core 1.5-2ghz android smartphone.
[EVO 4G Android Development] stangdriverdoug:
Heck yeah....when the dual core phones come out...we'll be doing it all over again.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Anyone can act as an escrowee. I offered to, and in doing so I offered to incorporate in Illinois as a Not-for-Profit, but people were no too thrilled about that idea for whatever reason.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Award Tour:
Not really, as long as they use the same radio (which they probably will), it'll work the same. Dual cores wont get into our hands until summer anyway.
[EVO 4G Android Development] stangdriverdoug:
Good point.hopefully when 4g gets going it will be cut and paste for future android sprint devices.
[EVO 4G Android Development] myndwire:
They're building the WiMax implementation to be forward compatible. We don't have to worry about this not working on future devices, as long as they're standard WiMax.
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
i guess, with everyone asking about it, how feasible is this option now?

at least until sprint/clear switch from wimax to lte...
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
:)

Need to bring this up to the front page again...

Swyped from my EVO via the XDA app
[EVO 4G Android Development] juancaperez2000:
probably because good news are coming? 6.1 almost here? Lol
[EVO 4G Android Development] stangdriverdoug:
If there really is progress being made there should be some kind of update or description on where they are in the process. This is such a huge deal now that 4g is going live in so many cities now.
[EVO 4G Android Development] stangdriverdoug:
I do and I see nothing
[EVO 4G Android Development] stangdriverdoug:
Just frustrated I guess....why did htc have too make our so hard?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Techrocket9:
It's not HTC's fault.

HTC didn't make it hard, they just didn't make it easy. The task of connecting an Android phone to a WiMax network is inherently difficult. HTC paid a team of programmers a large sum of money to make it work on the EVO, and they didn't share the product because any competitor (Say, Samsung and the Epic) could just take HTC's code and run, giving them an advantage in cost and speed in getting a product to the market.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Techrocket9:
... I'll just leave this here: http://www.twitter.com/cyanogen/status/26641206502
[EVO 4G Android Development] juancaperez2000:
link does not work
[EVO 4G Android Development] Anzix:
He meant to post this:

http://twitter.com/cyanogen/status/26641206502

"Was working on Evo WiMax yesterday, gotta figure out the power management. Woke up with a dead battery."
[EVO 4G Android Development] david279:
This is a good sign.
[EVO 4G Android Development] juancaperez2000:
what a good news, thanks 6.1 is almost here
[EVO 4G Android Development] Techrocket9:
Oops. Post fixed now.
[EVO 4G Android Development] stangdriverdoug:
Speak of the devil! How sweet would it be if 4G made it to 6.1.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Award Tour:
According to his twitter stream, Cyanogen himself is now working on it.

Edit: oops, re-post. Hate it when you think you're on the last page in tapatalk.

via Tapatalk.
[EVO 4G Android Development] donatom3:
Am I inferring to much or does this make it seem that he got 4G working but that it just killed the battery overnight? Once this happens I'll be back on Cyanogen most likely.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Matt_TX:
That's the way I read it too. I think we'll have it in the next couple of weeks. I remember when he posted about CM6 for the Evo, it didn't take long before it was available. I'm guessing we'll see a CM 6.1 RC1 before the end of the month...

Great news...

On a side note, I just don't know how anyone can go back to Sense after using CM6. I live in a 4G area and I wish I had it, but after using CM6, going back to Sense is just awful... It's amazing how much of a difference it makes.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Award Tour:
So very true. Sense is flashy but everything about it feels cheap.
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
speak of the devil?? :p ..bump'd ;)

amen.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Matt_TX:
Agreed... I have tried at least half a dozen Sense ROM's, even the ones that are "sense-less" but not AOSP, and they are just buggy... I also don't like the inconsistent UI experience you get between Sense and AOSP applications. There are so many things that are better about CM6, here are just a few that jump out at me:

- Consistent UI feel

- Radically better Facebook Integration

- Messaging App (no timestamp issue)

- E-mail (ability to have multiple Exchange accounts)

- Calendar (ability to create/manage entries more cleanly)

- ADW launcher

- Signal Meter (shows 3G signal strength when on 3G and not 1X strength)

- Notification screen is much cleaner

- Ability to easily edit home screen shortcuts

- Wifi Tether built into the OS

I realize you can do some of these things in Sense with additional apps/mods, but why bother when CM6 does all the hard work for you.
[EVO 4G Android Development] stangdriverdoug:
All of the avove plus about 100mb less of bloat.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kamiller42:
CM will experience a surge of new users when 4G support is added. So many are holding out for it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Beejis:
Oh wow, I will definitely go back to cm if this is true. This is the ONLY reason I am holding out.
[EVO 4G Android Development] scooter185:
I like sense :( but if 4G was working on sense-less roms (like MIUI) I may jump ship.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
CM6, aside from being a non-Sense ROM, has so many advantages over Sense that it is worth-while to jump ship if 4G comes to CM6. I advocate jumping ship even without 4G.

Plus, there are Sense themes for CM6 if you truly like Sense.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
As an individual who lives in one of the first 4G cities, where 4G is built out and fully functional, it stinks not being able to use 4G.

That being said, CM6 is such an improvement over Sense that, when using a balancing test, CM6 comes out on top. Plus, if you've never tried the Snap kernel with SnapTurbo, I HIGHLY recommend it. It'll blow your mind.

The Snap kernel increases performance while simultaneously increasing battery life.
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
Just to finally kill the pointless thread that..... cyanogen got 4G working (info via twitter) on CM6.1 just needs to work out some power management issues cause as we already know... it eats the battery....

So either donate to Cyanogens site, or just delete this thread...
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
ummm... we know.. cyanogen has been in touch with kpoz for quite some time about it. calm your hate. jesus...
[EVO 4G Android Development] mrpuffin:
edit: nevermind
[EVO 4G Android Development] m4rk0358:
I dunno. 4G is huge for me and having those speeds is key to my overall use of my phone. I know I'll be fully on board with Cyanogen after 4G is working but until then I want that speed.
[EVO 4G Android Development] stangdriverdoug:
4g for cm is a important and relevant topic....i think it deserves its own thread.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
This thread certainly isn't pointless. The CM team loves seeing the support, as well as the importance of CM6 and 4G to their end users. It motivates them and compensates them for their efforts.

In addition, Cyanogen himself said that he may need to use funds from this pool.

In the future, please read the OP before posting. In bold is the following statement: "Please do not post in this thread if you are not interested in contributing."

Please keep this in mind.

Love,

The purveyors of 4G on CM6 and the Party Against Illiterate Individuals Posting in Threads Because They Have Noting Better to Do With Their Time and are Clearly Uninterested in Contributing
[EVO 4G Android Development] m4rk0358:
BTW, I pledge $10.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Awesome! Thanks!
[EVO 4G Android Development] josue85:
I'm down for 10. I love Cyanogenmod, it's the least I could do.