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[Touch CDMA Android Development] n2rjt:
"1x" means 1xRTT or CDMA

Others are "3G", "E", "G", "H".

Of course, the symbol we are looking for is "H".

The following was gleaned from Fresh Froyo sources:

frameworks/base/telephony/java/android/telephony/ServiceState.java

packages/apps/Phone/src/com/android/phone/PhoneInterfaceManager.java

frameworks/base/services/java/com/android/server/status/StatusBarPolicy.java

and

hardware/ril/include/telephony/ril.h

UNKNOWN = 0; "G"

GPRS = 1; "G"

EDGE = 2; "E"

UMTS = 3; "3G"

IS95A = 4; "1x"

IS95B = 5; "1x"

1xRTT = 6; "1x"

EVDO_0 = 7; "3G"

EVDO_A = 8; "3G"

HSDPA = 9; "H" or "3G"

HSUPA = 10; "H" or "3G"

HSPA = 11; "H" or "3G"

where "H" or "3G" is displayed based on

com.android.internal.R.bool.config_hspa_data_distinguishable.

That parameter is in device/htc/vogue/overlay/frameworks/base/core/res/res/values/config.xml, at least in Fresh Froyo. It is set to FALSE, so change it to TRUE if you want to see "H".
[Touch CDMA Android Development] n2rjt:
Nope, it isn't as simple as setting the value to true in config.xml (and editing htcgeneric-ril.c), I still see 3G instead of H.

I'm going to bed. Maybe someone else can take over for a while.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] richard_s:
I'm confused if "1x" means CDMA - I thought the UK was GSM only.

For me, using the modified RIL resulted in poor data connectivity and location information that was wildly inaccurate. I've reverted and both those issues have disappeared. May be it's coincidental - I'll try the update again later.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
Now, this actually makes sense. You see, I just assumed that since 3 was 3G, 4 would be HSDPA. This is the code I used for this in the experimental libhtcgeneric-ril.c:

switch(response[3]) {
/* GSM/GSM Compact - aka GRPS */
case 0:
case 1:
response[3] = 1;
break;
/* EGPRS - aka EDGE */
case 3:
response[3] = 2;
break;
/* UTRAN - UMTS aka 3G */
case 2:
case 7:
response[3] = 3;
break;
/* UTRAN with HSDPA and/or HSUPA aka Turbo-3G*/
case 4:
case 5:
case 6:
response[3] = 4;
break;
}

So I'm going to change "response[3] = 4" to "response[3] = 9", we may also need the config change in the Android source that you found. Great work!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
Here we go again... try this one.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] n2rjt:
I made a similar change, actually adding cases for every possible value. I haven't tried your update but for me I found that the ril.so alone left me with "3G".

To get an "H" I had to edit one of the config.xml files and recompile the world. It took all night on my slow computer, but it works.

I think showing HSDPA separate from 3G will need to be done per build, unless there is a runtime method of changing configuration values. I know embedded software development in general quite well, but am inexperienced with Android in particular.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] n2rjt:
Looks like maybe framework-res.apk holds the configuration?

I don't know, this attached is probably still specific to DZO's Fresh Froyo.

It goes in /system/framework/framework-res.apk.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
Nice that it works. I can push the changes to the repos. Most ported builds like the CM ports propably have it enabled in their framework allready.
[EVO 4G Accessories] OneStepAhead:
10/7/2010: Impact is now for sale on otterbox.com, review to follow in the coming weeks.

9/11/2010: Got the Commuter case today and made a little video so you guys can check it out. This is my first ever video review, so go easy on me!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqBZQUox-ZE

Commuter Cases (only) are on sale this morning 9/9/2010!!

http://www.otterbox.com/htc-cases/htc-evo-4g-cases/htc-evo-commuter-series-case

http://www.otterbox.com/htc-cases/htc-evo-4g-cases/htc-evo-commuter-series-case

I've been monitoring the otterbox website for changes ever since I got the EVO and they finally added the cases to the site! can't order them yet, but you can see them at least. looks like they were worth the wait!!!

http://www.otterbox.com/htc-cases/htc-evo-4g-cases/

Impact ($19.99):

Commuter (34.99)

and the big daddy:

Defender ($49.99)
[EVO 4G Accessories] lc3necro:
Anyone having past experience with otterbox able to tell me, I have the Seidio rugged and the main thing I like is that it's basically 2 cases in one, for work I can use the rugged and every day I can use the Innocase 2

Does the Otterbox Defender work the same way? Or is it simply one skin?
[EVO 4G Accessories] Daft Punk:
holy ****. do want defender naow!
[EVO 4G Accessories] redrazr7791:
FINALLY!

Now lets see how long it takes for people to be able to order them. Oh and as far as how these cases compare to Seidio...their is NO comparison ;)

Is it me, or does the Defender case cover up the bottom buttons? That would be freaking awesome!
[EVO 4G Accessories] lc3necro:
Yes, I realize this, I have several friends with iPhone cases, but as I said, my main reason for liking the Seidio I have is that when I don't need full protection I can downgrade to something a bit more sleek and manageable
[EVO 4G Accessories] redrazr7791:
Understood ;) the more options, the better.
[EVO 4G Accessories] TheBiles:
They're very sexy, but I'm just going to keep my belt clip and naked EVO. I don't want to put this thing in my pocket.
[EVO 4G Accessories] rican408:
Being that I've had 3 otterbox cases and now the seidio rugged... I can say the rugged is quality ... I actually dropped it at 12 feet today. Not a scratch. Seidio has or will have matching dock and cardock aaaaaand the holsters...
[EVO 4G Accessories] Alanmw86:
I wonder if it has anything to do with me yelling at them to hurry the F up in emails lately lmao

in response to how the otterbox works, depends on the series.

the lower ones like a skin bet premo, the middy is kinda like the seido it looks

and the beast is used all in one.
[EVO 4G Accessories] EtherealRemnant:
Ummmmm... how are you supposed to use the camera on the Defender?
[EVO 4G Accessories] goodelyfe:
^you cant be serious
[EVO 4G Accessories] EtherealRemnant:
Looks like its covered with silicon to me...
[EVO 4G Accessories] MrDSL:
I really like the look of these but they don't have a belt clip holster type thing that it clips into like the seido does it?

Thats the main reason I have the innocase II is because is think so I can fit it in my pocket when im out and about and if I am at work wearing my belt I can just clip it right into my belt clip.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Alanmw86:
pretty sure the silicone u see on the defender case is there because thats whats inside the case...not an actual phone.

the defender series of case's always comes with a belt clip btw idk about the others.
[EVO 4G Accessories] TheBiles:
Neither the Impact nor Commuter cases come with a belt clip.
[EVO 4G Accessories] klbjr:
Well that is great news but what is the hold up? They say it takes a couple months but the Evo was out a couple weeks before the iPhone 4 and they have cases for them already!
[EVO 4G Accessories] I[E:
the defender comes with a holster, the others do not
[EVO 4G Accessories] nebenezer:
I'm thoroughly impressed, well worth the wait :)
[EVO 4G Accessories] upsstart:
No colors? Girls like colors. D=
[EVO 4G Accessories] Alanmw86:
if the demands enough you may talk them into doing a pink one but idk, they do a few colors for the iphone, But i dont think theres enough demand for the evo.

IDK what the hold up is, its extremely annoying and frustrating, but I imagine now that they are up on the site we should see them within a week or so ID HOPE!
[EVO 4G Accessories] rhfoxdude24:
Why didn't they make them all as sexy as the impact?
[EVO 4G Accessories] lopez62:
I Call DIBS on the Commuter..;)...altho I am still very happy with my Seidio Active Limted i would like to give the Commuter a try
[EVO 4G Accessories] Daft Punk:
all the cases look great.

so they have a prebuilt screen protector?
[EVO 4G Accessories] backdown:
I vowed to not get a case for this phone, but the 20$ one looks good.

Sent from my Evo, using the xda app
[EVO 4G Accessories] MrDSL:
The defender looks a bit thick for me..I take it the others dont have a clip that can be bought seperate?
[EVO 4G Accessories] shortbus182:
I'm still waiting on the ballistic case, but it's kinda first one out gets my money..http://www.goballisticcase.com/products/htc-evo-ballistic-hc-series-case
[EVO 4G Accessories] redrazr7791:
Yes they have a built-in screen protector. However, if Otterbox hasn't fixed the whole "watermark" situation...it will be removed as soon as I get one. IMHO, the screen protector is a P.O.S. especially if you have one already on your phone.

As far as colors go, I am a guy and I wouldn't mind having a white one. Hopefully the demand for various colors will be high.

@Shortbus182

The Ballistic case is nice, but I like the fact that the Defender case covers the whole phone even the buttons.
[EVO 4G Accessories] goodelyfe:
wrong.

only the defender has a built in screen protector...the rest are just films

idk though... its a toss up for me between ballistic and otter cmon someone, release the gahdamn case already!!
[EVO 4G Accessories] redrazr7791:
Which my response was directed solely at the Defender. If he was asking about "ALL" of the cases...then disregard what I said.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Daft Punk:
I was only asking about Defender anyway.
[EVO 4G Accessories] sanjsrik:
Well they're "up" in a very non-real way, if that's what you mean. Still a "send us your email address and we'll let you know when we've actually made these cases" up.

Expensive things aren't they?
[EVO 4G Accessories] jasonleb1:
Oh, sign me up for an Impact and a Commuter. I really like the brushed metal on the Commuter but I wished it covered the whole back :(
[EVO 4G Accessories] dschoenike:
I never used a case like those. any concerns about the phone overheating in something like that? I work outside and my naked evo gets kinda hot without anything on it. any input would b greatly appreciated.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Testrunner:
thickness?

I've heard only good things about these OtterBox Cases so I have waited and finally they are here (kind of).

I am not sure if the Commuter or Impact is the right choice for me.

The deciding factor is the thickness.

Does anyone know how much of a difference in size these two cases are?

I tried to call OtterBox but there were 36 callers ahead of me and I didn't want to wait on hold for a year.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Alanmw86:
I gave ballistic a look but it appears unnecessarily bulky and it definitely doesn't cover up as much as the otterbox defender.

and yes I realize its the same thing asking for an email on there site, but I also realize that there is additional info up on they're site and I'm certain we'll see a release shortly, I'd be extremely surprised if we didn't.

as far as pricing goes and them being expensive, no not really. I paid 30$ for the platinum case from best bay, for 5 dollars more I could have got the commuter or 10$ less the impact, both are better than the platinum...heck my case doesn't even stay on all the time, took it apart about 10x and now it slides apart when i try and hold it and press the power button.

as far as 50$ for the defender....once you have it in your hands and compare it to other case's, heck no, its cheap.

I had an otterbox on my iphone and my blackberry curve and Ive thrown em as hard as I could and the phone and case still live haha
[EVO 4G Accessories] ekokinex:
I was set on the Ballistic case for a while but the Otterbox Defender looks much better. It definitely lives up to the anticipation.
[EVO 4G Accessories] tdusen:
None of them are waterproof.. I'm disappointed.
[EVO 4G Accessories] goodelyfe:
lol

pull ya skirt down, b. i was talking in general not directed towards you ;) Also, Daft's use of 'they' context clued me to something plural possibly implying more than one case :D:) but was wrong :shrug: lol
[EVO 4G Accessories] redrazr7791:
Sorry bud, just been really stressed out and over-analytical as of late. Either way, no harm done and...where the h*ll are these cases :D
[EVO 4G Accessories] goodelyfe:
hell yea bro i agree!!! where the hell are they??!?!!!

i say we get in our mission impossible suits and suspend down into the production factory and grab some 'beta testers' lol
[EVO 4G Accessories] cmart4:
hopefully these don't squeak like the seidio cse i got the first day i got my evo... total disappointment, these look pretty bad-ass!
[EVO 4G Accessories] lamboh:
my innocase 2 doesnt squeak....and definitely not in the rugged...

my only complaint on the rugged is how they dont have built in screen protectors...and how the silicone flap when putting it in the holster, or swiping through homesscreens, etc.
[EVO 4G Accessories] nugzo:
The power button looks like its extra big. That's awesome. We need all the help we can get in the on/off department with any case on this phone.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Jykinturah:
Can anyone give insight concerning the feel of the silicon they use? I am specifically looking at the impact case, the other two are just too much.

I am hoping it isn't rubbery and sticky like most other silicon cases I have seen.
[EVO 4G Accessories] OneStepAhead:
I emailed them 2 months ago begging for them to make EVO cases in colors and then said nope, only black for EVO. Someone tell me why I got a white phone again?
[EVO 4G Accessories] Alanmw86:
I find that its sticky enough to hold my phone in place on my center console in my truck when im romping around in it, but just barely, it has grip but its not super soft and sticky, its more firm and is more elastic than other case's I have ever used.
[EVO 4G Accessories] linuxpro747:
I had the Defender series for my iPhone 3GS and can hardly wait to buy one for my Evo. Just bought the Seidio Innocase Active II (Pearl White) and while it's nice, it's just not anywhere near the quality of my previous Otterbox.

And for those complaining about the color, that's a very easy problem to fix. Go to Home Depot, buy a can of Plastikote or any quality vinyl die. Then just spray the plastic parts with whatever color you like. I used vinyl die to paint my previous Otterbox defender, changing it from straight black to white. It worked great. Just make sure you use vinyl die or plastic paint. the stuff only costs about $5 per can.

I can't post any links, but it's easy to find the stuff at Home Depot. Plastikote is a good brand, as well as the Rustoleum brand plastic paint. Both would work well.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Mayonesa:
the only thing i was wondering about was the holster. i someone with the iphone version and the holster has nothing to hold the phone inplace. he has to use one of his wife hair things to hold it.. cause it has fallen out before.

if the holster is like sedio where it holds the phone in place then i will buy one.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Jfree3000:
These guys are ridiculous, it takes months for them to reveal a case and when they do you can't even buy it yet. Hell when the iphone launched they had cases ready to go and that just pisses me off. How long before you can buy a finished product or are we to be the red headed step children again. / of rant and I will be buying one once they are available. :D
[EVO 4G Accessories] Minjin:
There have been how many Evos sold? 200k? iPhone 4 is at several million. Otterbox knows where their bread is buttered. That's simply the advantage of having something popular. You get lots of accessories and a whole lot more attention.
[EVO 4G Accessories] SilverZero:
Dude, that Impact is sexy. I like the Commuter, too, but the Defender is pretty dang tank-ish. Not bad, but not my style.

Still, I think I'll just live with my good ol' Six-Dollar TPU case for a while longer. At least now I know there are options that aren't Ebay or Seidio. ;)
[EVO 4G Accessories] Alanmw86:
The holster is solid, I sold these things to construction workers all day long.

I believe its friction based if i recall (I may be wrong on that I totally cant recall 100%)

but it aint going anywhere.
[EVO 4G Accessories] SilverStone641:
+1. one of my buddies works armed security and had to chase down a guy with his iphone attached to his belt with the defender series case. He had no issuse. the phone stayed securely in the holster.

EDIT: Forgot this part. The same buddy also dropped his iphone into my hot tub with the same case. he pulled it out 10 seconds later with absolutely no issues. we removed the case to check it out and no moisture made it inside. i was quite impressed
[EVO 4G Accessories] Mudkip:
i had the defender for my 3gs. i dropped it more times then i can remember from 5 feet and nothing. also flung it at a wall on accident. no problems either. otterbox will always get my money as long as they have a defender.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Mayonesa:
well the person i know that has it for his iphone has dropped his with the holster... he uses a rubber band to hold it from falling.. i wouldnt worry about the phone getting hurt but maybe losing it...

thats one thing i like about the sedio holster.. .the top clip works well...

over all these cases look good, and i may end up getting one myself...
[EVO 4G Accessories] saqibaz:
I prefer the impact, it seems to be really basic and makes the phone look good.
[EVO 4G Accessories] ChrisAC84:
Yeah, I will be getting one of the Defenders:)
[EVO 4G Accessories] redrazr7791:
Amazon has them as "Arriving in 3-5 weeks!" :D
[EVO 4G Accessories] goodelyfe:
hahaha!!! amazon spilled their beans!

but thas right on time with the one month eta from the email some user showed
[EVO 4G Accessories] jdogg836:
The only time I have ever seen this issue in an otterbox case was that the person had the phone in backward. The screen goes in, when the otterbox is on the belt clip the back of the phone should be visible not the front.
[EVO 4G Accessories] ilyheather2010:
is the deffender going to cover the screen to like the iphones bc if not the wtf

but if so then yay yay yay

im gettin when its first launch
[EVO 4G Accessories] redrazr7791:
You singing or what? If your asking a question, the answer is here and the otterbox website. All defender cases are the same.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Daft Punk:
wtf my post got deleted.
[EVO 4G Accessories] OneStepAhead:
EDIT: Forgot this part. The same buddy also dropped his iphone into my hot tub with the same case. he pulled it out 10 seconds later with absolutely no issues. we removed the case to check it out and no moisture made it inside. i was quite impressed[/QUOTE]

I have heard of these "dropped my iphone in the pool" stories a few times now from Defender owners. Probably why the website says "not waterproof", just so they can cover their bases. Impressive, though I do wonder how water didn't get in the mic or speaker? surely the case doesn't cover those?

please explain how you flung it at a wall on "accident" :D youtube vid or it didn't happen!
[EVO 4G Accessories] Mudkip:
I have heard of these "dropped my iphone in the pool" stories a few times now from Defender owners. Probably why the website says "not waterproof", just so they can cover their bases. Impressive, though I do wonder how water didn't get in the mic or speaker? surely the case doesn't cover those?

please explain how you flung it at a wall on "accident" :D youtube vid or it didn't happen![/QUOTE]

haha it was on my bed and when i riped my sheets off to change them it went flying
[EVO 4G Accessories] SilverStone641:
Stupid question i'm sure, but has anyone seen an "available by" data ANYWHERE? how come the criPhone 4 has otterbox cases rolling out and the EVO has to wait??
[EVO 4G Accessories] ausch30:
Something like a million and a half iPhones sold in the first day and a couple hundred thousand EVO's sold to date. I don't know the exact number off hand but I read somewhere, a couple days after the iPhone launch, that it had outsold the EVO somewhere around 4:1 at that point. Not to mention that the typical iWhatever buyer is not afraid to spend money where the typical Android buyer is more value conscious (at least IMHO, I could be wrong), and the Otterbox cases are a high end item. I have the Body Glove case and it's crap, I've been waiting for the Otterbox as well and I wish they would get moving on it.
[EVO 4G Accessories] rahb0sse:
In the same boat as you... the case blows. It's flimsy and breaks apart from a 3 foot carpet drop.
[EVO 4G Accessories] ilyheather2010:
the watermark issue was fixed on the iphone 4 and it should be the same on evo

evo has just as much demand that the iphone does

just not known as well if there was a 2g 3g 3gs and 4 of evo it would be known and just as popular

but evo will not do that bc there not as stupid to make ever damn phone look the same

and oh yeah iphone has a blue bestbuy otterbox special now

evo will have colors out soon after the black releases might not be many first untill they see that htc and android is gonna be there star money maker instead of that other **** phone oh im sorry dont call it a phone its a antenna less paper weight lol sorry for the rudeness

but with the droid x the evo and all the other new androids they will defenityly make more for this phones
[EVO 4G Accessories] Alanmw86:
I believe otterbox use's gortex membrane to cover most of the openings (speaker for example) thats why they are highly resistant to water (of course not proof)

I can tell you from standing in the pouring rain and snow for hours duck hunting in goretex that its good, but not fool proof :-)

biggest problem with goretex is that it has a tendency to absorb water after a while (in contrast with some other waterproof materials) but it doesn't let that absorbed water pass the final membrane for quite a while.
[EVO 4G Accessories] redrazr7791:
Well they need to release them soon. Almost dropped my EVO walking to class yesterday. Not a good way you start my long week!
[EVO 4G Accessories] shortbus182:
Ballistic just dropped an early November date for their release. Hopefully otterbox will have theirs out much sooner.
[EVO 4G Accessories] IMiLL102911:
Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but can you use the camera with the defender case?
[EVO 4G Accessories] Daft Punk:
yeah look at the design. Why wouldnt you. they clearly have cutouts for the cam and leds.
[EVO 4G Accessories] IMiLL102911:
Ok thanks for verifying that for me. In the pictures it has some kind of material covering the camera and I thought that was part of the design. I have no experience with otterbox so this is my first time hearing about them.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Daft Punk:
thats not material covering, its the mock up mold of a EVO.
[EVO 4G Accessories] MrDSL:
I'm not getting this case out of principle!! I'll be looking to my next phone by the time this comes out.
[EVO 4G Accessories] zer0-1ne:
hope they have colors by the time they come out
[EVO 4G Accessories] redrazr7791:
Lets just get a case first! I bet it will be a few more months and a lot of feedback from consumers, before OB decides to start making various models with different colors.

On a side note...they have already produced their iPhone 4 cases, so maybe it wouldn't take that long for some color choices to come out.
[EVO 4G Accessories] shortbus182:
How cool would it be for the defender to have the rugged military look to it. Like an olive drab on black, or desert camo. That would be a win.
[EVO 4G Accessories] jasonleb1:
Amazon still says 3-5 weeks so that's what I'm hoping for.
[EVO 4G Accessories] kshelton:
I really need these cases to come out, they are a little pricey but they look very high quality.
[EVO 4G Accessories] TorxT3D:
signing up for the impact. then i can retire my hacked up rocketfish.
[EVO 4G Accessories] mrfunnyguyky:
Im using the otterbox on my evi right now. Its pretty nice. Really feels good in my hand and goes in and out of my pocket with no problems. Its the commuter case btw.
[EVO 4G Accessories] SilverStone641:
first off, whats an evi? secondly, you couldn't possibly have one unless your the manufacturer. they are still listed as "coming soon" on the otterbox website. explain. pics or it didn't happen.
[EVO 4G Accessories] clamknuckle:
You're kind of a ****.

Sprint has the commuters in stock. I have one too.

Also, Evi is what predictive text often suggests when you type Evo.