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[EVO 4G General] DroidGnome:
Ok this is frustrating!

I just got home and had 4G on the entire way to see how far it extends.. and it's NO WHERE in my home town of Miramar/Pembroke Pines...

I went back to a list I found from long ago of all cities that make up the Miami Market

So I contacted Sprint, and according to their coverage map at:

http://coverage.sprint.com/IMPACT.jsp I do not have 4G and will not have 4G for the forseeable future.

Yet according to Clear's coverage map:

http://www.clear.com/coverage I do have coverage.

I'm a little pissed that not only was I told 4G was coming in June/July (Yes our local Sprint store mislead a lot of people with the 4G dates.), but now I'm told I won't get it , most likely the life of my current phone.

Does anyone remember the list above (It's copied exactly from a news story I remember back when the EVO first came out) and know WHERE it was from? Specifically if it was a sprint official memo/news story?
[EVO 4G General] fastfed:
Looks like I am joining the class action suit...t mobile is advertising they will have 4g in dec or jan..again I live in the third most populated city in florida..coral springs..no where on springs has 4g...I'm so sick of sprint..i don't care what you fan sprint boys say..this is unacceptable...
[EVO 4G General] FastJoe78:
This sucks!!!! I live in Coral Springs and I've been waiting for ****ing 4G for months and they totally screwed us just like Comcast!!!
[EVO 4G General] fenixjn:
It seems like MDC Kendall got its own 4G tower. 4G all around campus even inside buildings. My guess is that the tower is either on Bldg 3 or 6

Sent from the iPhone Assassin
[EVO 4G General] robl45:
I chatted sprint today and they said they supposedly are still building it out, otherwise if there is a class action, tell me how to join. I'm in deerfield beach and there isn't 4g for at least 5 miles in any direction. Worse I work in plantation and all along 595 and 95, it just cuts in and out. So every other provider has 4g or will have it soon and we have a few spots of unreliable wifi access. All you can really call what they provided. And I'm paying 20 a month extra for 2 phones for this garbage
[EVO 4G General] fenixjn:
*Insert flame comment for insisting that you are paying for 4G when in reality you are paying to use a more advanced phone*

Good luck with that class action...
[EVO 4G General] robl45:
no I'm paying a premium data fee and getting a non premium experience, and any moron on the street knows what that fee is for.
[EVO 4G General] fastfed:
Lmao what? Paying for an advanced phone? Sorry bud but I promise LOL the 10 bucks is not for that ... its for 4g service simple as that
[EVO 4G General] DroidGnome:
Wow before this gets out of hand...

Go check out http://explainthefee.com/ and you'll know what Sprint says the fee's for. (Or well you won't cuz they won't exactly tell you :) )
[EVO 4G General] alexcool1015:
No 4G in Coral Springs freaking AMAZING...dammit
[EVO 4G General] danh18:
I feel your PAIN!

No 4G in MOST of Miami Lakes either! I think its absolutely despicable that they had their "official roll-out" today with this CRAPPY coverage. They better improve and FAST or I'm outta here!!

Dan
[EVO 4G General] fhernandez1030:
Dude miami lakes isn't Miami in most of general Miami there is decent 4g still not perfect but good enough for then to say its official. I consider general Miami from kendall drive to doral and from dolphin mall to the beach. They need to cover that perfectly before they can get the outer suburbs perfectly. I get 4g my whole day now I work in dolphin mall and go to school downtown.
[EVO 4G General] danh18:
Im happy for you that you get 4G while being STATIONARY in one or two places all day. But I drive all day every day between DADE and BROWARD counties, im always looking for where 4G is available, and I can assure you- 4G coverage IS CRAP RIGHT NOW!

And BTW, Miami is more than Kendall to Doral dude...
[EVO 4G General] MiamiBoi:
I live off of Kendall Drive, West Kendall Area and I get Nada!! I go to my friends house off of 137th Ave and 152nd ish St.. and I have at least 2 bars of 4G.. my speeds suck.. but I didn't know if was a Rom issue or what.. still beats 3G tho.
[EVO 4G General] glockliberty:
My 4g works from boca to boynton.

delray has had it since I got the phone in october, but boynton just got it.
[EVO 4G General] hodad37:
Hey, im not getting 4g in easst boca. what's up witht that.
[EVO 4G General] bitbang3r:
^^^ They're probably working on a backhaul link somewhere. I've noticed that areas go dark for a few hours before a new area gets lit up nearby.

had 4g @ Cici's in W. Hialeah (87th ave @ nw 122(?) street) that worked west to the road that runs north to the funky interchange @ i-75 & 138 st., and north along it all the way to 75 before I lost it halfway along the ramp to northbound 75. Miramar pkwy between 75 & red road seems to be covered now, too.
[EVO 4G General] oblivior72:
DUDE! I used to live in 97th and fountainbleu! I went to Stirrup Elementray lol.

Anyways, Yea no luck with 4G neither in Miami nor Ft. Lauderdale. I'm in Orlando now next to UCF and there is infact 4G service! woot woot!
[EVO 4G General] playya:
Yea I did it I drove down to Pines and 75 and confirmed 4g... I got speeds of 4.4 while driving. I pulled over and streamed spongegebob(keep the kids quiet) from their site and it was beautiful and loaded up in less than a minute.
[EVO 4G General] HolySabre:
Just picked up some weak 4g in kendall. Was disappointed by the slow speed so I hopped back on 3g
[EVO 4G General] djbigz:
Picked up signal today momentarily in Palm Bch Co in 2 places.. One on Atlantic ave east of the turnpike, and 95 south bound right around congress! Nothing here in Broward Co, sample road and 441 though :-(
[EVO 4G General] Zabalba:
Anyone down to hunt for the tower in downtown Miami? :D
[EVO 4G General] david_ag:
Where in Kendall?? I live in Kendall too. Haven't tried 4G anywhere, but will join in the hunt! :D
[EVO 4G General] evocalante:
I've ben picking up 4g for the past 2 days once in downtown and again in kendall! Its not constant but got good 3 bar. Can't wait to have the power of 4g all the time.
[EVO 4G General] alextrox69:
what!!! i want 4g i live in broward / sunrise...i cant wait
[EVO 4G General] playya:
Yea you and me both I cant believe they have not put it up at Sawgrass as of yet. I just knew for sure that place would have 4g
[EVO 4G General] lolz mclollerson:
Right near the outdoor mall, if not, which way East or West?

****, I'm out there all the time, I'll have to test it out.
[EVO 4G General] Sokesleezy:
x3

Patiently waiting..

Wait what.
[EVO 4G General] playya:
I was coming from Sawgrass area and got off on Pines West off 75 went two lights turned around and when going West on Pines now I got on top of 75 whaaala 4g
[EVO 4G General] ttieder:
There a lot of 4g on pines next to 75 I got 6mb down there
[EVO 4G General] lolz mclollerson:
Awesome, I'll have to check it out tomorrow. Thanks!
[EVO 4G General] lolz mclollerson:
Any specific areas?
[EVO 4G General] ttieder:
Exit to 75 north almost all the way down to best buy I got the most signal near the commons
[EVO 4G General] playya:
I got 4.4 while passing bye for a quick second
[EVO 4G General] lolz mclollerson:
Awesome, thanks for the heads up.
[EVO 4G General] am1640:
I was at my kids practice next to BCC south campus on pines and was picking up 4G signal.
[EVO 4G General] izzystylez:
idk all these members from xda were in miami thats wassup
[EVO 4G General] bartendersimon:
wow, i live next to sawgrass mills in sunrise and i know there is a tower there but nothing yet. just waiting for any 4g magic.
[EVO 4G General] fastfed:
This guy is so right..it sickens me that so many people here argue this fact..with all of the smart people here they still don't think that the ten bucks is for 4g..i don't disagree with many here that its still much cheaper than other providers, and for that I'm still happy, but know that I'm paying money for something that I don't have..or can't have based on my location...when 3g came out I didn't have it at first but I also didn't pay for it..
[EVO 4G General] DroidGnome:
I don't know if you actually tested this road yourself, heard from a friend, or used the Map Viewer App (Shows the Sensorly forcast maps), however Miramar Parkway, between I75 and Red road is NOT active. (Maybe it's being turned on and off for testing, but definitely not active at the moment).

I live with my house to the back of that road and it's never been on that I can tell (My 4G goes on to test almost nightly these days). I addition I ran 4G on this morning while traveling from 75 to Red Road and there was no 4G Signal.

At the intersection of Red Road & Miramar Parkway however there WAS a signal, but only at the intersection and it was of 'poor' quality (zero bars). I then had to go onto the turnpike which was a bit spotty until I got onto 595 a ways further east.
[EVO 4G General] bitbang3r:
Yep, good news... I personally observed 4G on Miramar Parkway between 75 and Red Road. I think it dropped the connection a little west of Monarch Lakes Blvd, but I toggled 4G the moment it dropped to force an immediate reconnect, and it reconnected without problems. Not only did I see it, I saw it in rainy weather (which, as you know, usually causes 4G to go to hell anyplace where the coverage was marginal to begin with).

Keep in mind, the WiMax signal is *incredibly* directional. Try it in your back yard as far south of the noise-abatement wall as you can get, and try it while standing next to a window on the second floor that faces north. It's entirely possible that you might be standing in the shadow of your house, the noise abatement wall, or a 2-4 story building further north. As more towers get lit up to the south, west, and east, your coverage will improve dramatically.

To give you an idea how directional 2.6GHz is... it's basically radar frequency. If you have a signal inside your house, nearly all of it came in through window glass. In "light" terms, glass is mostly clear, wood is dimly translucent, concrete is almost completely opaque, and grounded metal IS opaque.
[EVO 4G General] Prene:
So how has everyone's experience been thus far?
[EVO 4G General] danh18:
4G in South FL

It TOTALLY SUCKS! Sprints 4G coverage is marginal at best! And forget about getting 4G inside just about any structure! Unless you have a 4G antenna right next to you, it ain't happening!

I was so sicked about getting my 4G phone and putting to the test all its capabilities... now Im just totally disappointed!!

I hope LTE technology is much better than wimax...
[EVO 4G General] Prene:
Yes I feel your pain
[EVO 4G General] fenixjn:
So far, kind of happy: I get 2 bars inside my apartment building however the speed has degraded: before I was able to pull 6 - 7.5 Mbps, now I can only get about 3 - 4 Mbps.
[EVO 4G General] HondaCop:
PS. My name is HondaCop and I approve this message.
[EVO 4G General] DonRSD:
No 4g in coral springs yet.

My in laws both have an evo and nothing.

I have CM6 so I dont get 4g until cm7
[EVO 4G General] Prene:
What's everybody's update on 4g.
[EVO 4G General] Zabalba:
I doubt its changed a whole lot since it officially launched. Clear kinda ran out of operating money. But now with Sprint providing more cash flow to clear looks like we might get some improvements.

I think Clear/Sprint are afraid to put a 4G tower here on Lincoln RD =/
[EVO 4G General] danh18:
Its very dissapointing to say the least. My wife has tmobile 4g which im always comparing with my evo, and no matter where we're at her 4g coverage is ALWAYS better and much faster.

I'm extremely disappointed with sprint's 4g!!
[EVO 4G General] lucidox:
Still no 4g in Coral Springs.

Was reading that Calkulin found some code in the leaked Evo GB build that indicates we may get EVDO rev B and LTE support when the official release drops.
[EVO 4G General] robl45:
no 4g in Deerfield Beach either. they left out boca, deerfield beach, coral springs and parkland.
[EVO 4G General] ashton4life:
I live in CountryWalk close to Kendall near the Metro Zoo and I get a lot of disconnects and slow speeds. If I move north of Kendall drive I get 2-3 Mbps down and crappy up. In my house I get 3G speeds with 1-2 bars. Tmobile said they were going to send a tech to see why I keep getting disconnected. I thought it was my G2x I just bought. I'm gonna wait until my 13th day and if nothing changes I may just return the phone and go back to MetroPCS and just wait for things to get better because it's a rip off to pay a premium price for service that doesnt perform as advertised.
[EVO 4G General] thenags:
Not a thing in Coral Springs.
[EVO 4G General] splmonster:
I have many friends that work within the Clear company here in AZ. That statement you just made is absolutely incorrect. Clear never was running low on money, they shut down stores because the sales were poor and Sprint demanded more of them to their network and focus on that. Heck Clear has been spending money on testing faster Wimax and LTE. Building multi-mode towers, and improving the existing Wimax radios. Please if your going to just speculate at least have solid information backing it.
[EVO 4G General] Zabalba:
http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2010/11/clearwire-cuts-staff-15-percent.html

http://corporate.clearwire.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=570046

#comonson
[EVO 4G General] splmonster:
You basically just showed that they are losing money, but nothing there mentioned they had 0 to spend. You realize Sprint cuts costs, and tries what ever they can to raise money? Sprint is not making profit these days and hasn't for quite some time. However that does not mean they do not have money to spend. Clear does have it, but they are cutting retail locations in order to pump more money into just network building and infrastructure. Next time don't point out the obvious and read my post. I never mentioned they were losing or making profit. I simply said they had money to spend, because they do. They are just going to have more now with cutting things away and focusing on network. They now have the contract they need from Sprint for funding, which adds even more to the spending they can do.
[EVO 4G General] slipshft:
Miami will be getting some new sites (I cannot disclose how many) this month, most likely later in the month. Keep an eye on the Clear map later this month.
[EVO 4G General] splmonster:
Seems Clear is doing quite well.

http://clear.com/blog/hard-work-really-pays-off/
[EVO 4G General] drewsg:
I'm in Broward County, but I FINALLY got 4G at my house.. I only get one bar, but I still pull about 4Mb down. Good enough for me
[EVO 4G General] zeau2004:
Lucky u, I live in Aventura and we don't have 4G :(
[EVO 4G General] danh18:
One of the few!

Lucky you! I have 4g in the area where I live, but ABSOLUTELY NOTHING inside my house. I would have to step outside and away from the building to get 4g. Not very convenient! As a matter of fact, I have tested 4g indoors at SEVRAL locations and have found this to be true pretty much everywhere!

I cant tell you how dissapointed I am with Sprint's 4g network...correction Clear's 4g network cause it aint even Sprint's network really!

I might go check out Verizon soon and see how LTE compares. I cant stand AT&T and they just bought Tmobile which was my other option.
[EVO 4G General] djbigz:
Where do you live? WOuld love to get some 4G love in the coral springs/margate area..
[EVO 4G General] kenster2011:
Still waiting in West Boca...
[EVO 4G General] xxxmina:
there is 4g up and down i-95.... hollywood seems to have it .... i think the area between 441 and i-95 in broward seems to have good 4g signal.... i've also been getting it in north miami 125 st and dixie area.... none in aventura still which is wierd seeing thats the area you would expect to get 4g first after downtown ....
[EVO 4G General] drewsg:
I live in Tamarac. Theres a huge tower right by Rock Island and McNabb that just got lit up, I don't know if the signal carries into Margate though.
[EVO 4G General] drewsg:
Yeah, WiMax has pretty bad building penetration, I thought that was common knowledge. Sometimes, just holding my phone the wrong way inside my house will cause the 4G signal to get dropped, that's pretty ridiculous.

I think this is the issue that Network Vision towers will address.
[EVO 4G General] djbigz:
Definitely nothing in my area, I'm at sample and rock island.
[EVO 4G General] Klk450:
Any 4G in kendall?
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
No it wont... the issue is the signal that Sprint/Clear is using for wimax.. its too weak to penetrate buildings well. All the network vision is going to do is put that same frequency on Sprint towers now instead of just Clearwire. I have two towers within about a half mile of me and my signal still doesnt work inside.
[EVO 4G General] thenags:
I'm on Shadowood and Riverside and got nothin'
[EVO 4G General] proth3us:
So far still nothing on coral springs
[EVO 4G General] Xtazy305:
i get sum in MIAMI GARDENS
[EVO 4G General] Klk450:
Still nothing in Kendall and i already have bad signal as it is.
[EVO 4G General] cac9478:
I got 4g in Brickell and North Miami Beach by Johnson and Wales University!
[EVO 4G General] scriptx:
Far from Miami, but I turned 4G on during my commute this morning from Boynton to Boca, and I had full bar 4G throughout Delray Beach! Speeds sucked though.
[EVO 4G General] teshxx:
seriously ... go Plantation n Boca lol... smoke hookah ? come to hookah hut :))
[EVO 4G General] bron019:
No 4g so far in Aventura
[EVO 4G General] alextrox69:
no 4g in sunrise :(
[EVO 4G General] Zabalba:
You can try out 4G here

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=25.79....790231,-80.225086&spn=0.007206,0.015085&z=16
[EVO 4G General] playya:
x2 waiting patiently... if you discover it before me, hey PM me or something....
[EVO 4G General] proth3us:
no 4g here in coral springs :(

can't wait !!!!!!
[EVO 4G General] rapid/transit:
Found some 4G on 20 street just east of 12 avenue in Miami.

Eddie
[EVO 4G General] 4 Door Skyline:
4g off of 127 and sunset got about 5 mbps down!
[EVO 4G General] guyver2077:
Got 4G today as well!

North Miami Beach area!! Was getting about 5-6 MBps down
[EVO 4G General] jerrygon:
Definite 4G confirmed in the area of Pines and I75. Actually works all the way east to about Flamingo and west till about Dykes. Seems like the best spot is right around the Macaroni Grill/Chilis where I got 6mb down and 2mb up. Lets keep posting locations as they pop up!
[EVO 4G General] dwightxm:
Got 4G while driving last night on University Drive between Stirling and Nova University, closer to Griffin. Got one bar and ran speed test while driving. Got 1874 kpbs download and 815 kbps up
[EVO 4G General] mikevillarroel:
Dykes uh? i have nothing yet............maybe tomorrow i will try driving around
[EVO 4G General] 4 Door Skyline:
OK so there seems to be a tower on the turnpike and almost getting to kendall drive, you cant miss it, its lit up like a christmas tree. Anyways, I have a friend that lives right next to it, so I went to test out my 4G......OMFG!!!

Sorry for the extra large size, but I think it is necessary to actually see the map well

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a52/****face43/snap20100819_000746.png

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a52/****face43/maps.jpg
[EVO 4G General] bron019:
When did sprint say they where going to turn 4g on
[EVO 4G General] car_lost:
No 4G in Florida International University.
[EVO 4G General] Phyllip J FRy:
Nothing on Commercial and Federal in Broward, yet
[EVO 4G General] abiezer:
Nothing in Coral Gables =(
[EVO 4G General] teshxx:
NO 4G in plantation :(
[EVO 4G General] glock23c:
I had 4G on Pines east of Hiatus as I was driving home with my replaced. Then I rooted and put CM6 on.
[EVO 4G General] snapbox:
I've heard Oct 31st from a Sprint business rep... this was the same guy who also had the correct date on the Froyo release 2 weeks before they announced it.

I believe Sprint was hoping to launch this market much earlier but couldn't get the upgrades done in time.

Also, no 4G here (University Dr & Sunrise Blvd)... you'd think it'd be here by now considering the massive Motorola plant across the street from me (which has a Sprint/Nextel tower on the roof).
[EVO 4G General] noname580:
I had heard that motorola doesnt own that place anymore. I had heard it is now owned and used by RIM. From a friend who used to work two floors below them in there old offices.

No 4g 441 and griffin. Though not thoroughly tested.
[EVO 4G General] guyver2077:
Found a nice sweet spot..

Biscayne Blvd around N 135 st

Was getting full signal 4g.. about 8.9 Mbps down... blazin!!
[EVO 4G General] surrealmethod:
Drove from aventura to kendal last night via the palghetto and no 4g anywhere... Just said scanning.
[EVO 4G General] lolz mclollerson:
No 4G in Weston or anywhere off of I-75 from the 595/Sawgrass interchange all the way down to the Turnpike as of yet.
[EVO 4G General] david_ag:
Thanks for the info! I'll try and check it out this weekend!
[EVO 4G General] 4 Door Skyline:
no prob, thats what this forum is all about, and why Ive been around for so long!
[EVO 4G General] kyleblakepeters:
I know 4G is planned for Miami, but are we expecting 4G data to be turned on for areas including Broward and South Palm Beach? Deerfield Beach/Boca here.
[EVO 4G General] abiezer:
It hasn't been specified, but most likely.
[EVO 4G General] bpqow:
I'm close enough to throw a rock to the bank atlantic center and no 4G here... :(
[EVO 4G General] rugedraw:
I work in downtown Miami and I have not been able to connect to 4G. I'm on Flagler and Biscayne Blvd. A friend of mine who lives off of 8 St. but the river said he gets 4G all day from his apartment, and he is getting from 4-7000 kbps download speeds.
[EVO 4G General] snapbox:
i can confirm that 4g is active on university drive between griffin road and pines boulevard... also getting great reception on pines boulevard from university drive the hiatus road so far too... it appears as if the towers that were once just giving off ip addresses are now actually connecting. it's a good sign!!!
[EVO 4G General] rugedraw:
I just drove by Little Havana on my way home from work, and picked up a weak 4G signal by 8 st and 15 ave. Did 2500 kbps down and 1070 up. It'll be here soon!
[EVO 4G General] playya:
Hey Sprint what about us in Northern Broward we would like to use 4g also.... You know the ones that live north of 595 can we live....lol
[EVO 4G General] newtonetienne:
4G Miami - american airlines arena

Got signal and connected to 4G in front of american airlines arena.

Was late for concert so I couldnt check speed, but at least I got a signal and connected!
[EVO 4G General] snapbox:
Yeah, I managed to pick up 4g with a strong signal near midtown last night (36th & n Miami ave)

Looks like the network is being built out pretty quickly.
[EVO 4G General] potheadhero:
We need some 4G in Miami Lakes and on South Beach. That way my wife and I can both have it while at work. Come on SPRINT! HURRY! lol
[EVO 4G General] Sokesleezy:
I was able to receive 4G on the Broward College south campus in pembroke pines. Got one bar, 2.2 Mbps download.
[EVO 4G General] alextrox69:
i was there today i didnt get signal...4g came on and it was so slow i went back to 3g it was a very weak connection
[EVO 4G General] rugedraw:
Just got 2300 down and 1009 up from the building of my building on Biscayne Blvd and Flagler. The connection was so weak, though, that it the 4G symbol had no bars over it....lol.
[EVO 4G General] kireg13:
Hey everyone, This is my first post here even though I've been reading for a while. Anyways, let me make my first post useful.

I drive from Kendall to Miami Beach every morning and I have spotted and confirmed 2 WiMax towers.

The first is located where a previous poster said, along the turnpike at about kendall drive.

The second I discovered myself. It's just north of the 395 right before the MacArthur Causeway bridge over to Miami Beach. View the attachment for a little map of the location.

Been seeing 3Mbps down, and 1 up on average. Peaked at 5 down, 1.5 up.

Hope that helps someone around here test their 4G :D