yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[EVO 4G Android Development] Justin.G11:
You can use domain\username or use the FQDN username@domain, either will work ...

....unless Active Sync Policies are in use and enforced. The latest version of the AS standard has extra features like password policy and app enforcement, remote wipe force, and other features that don't work in the Google mail client and some mail admins will setup exchange to deny sync privelages to any device that doesn't support the full feature set.

Long story short: active-sync may work for you .... but it's a subset of features that means it may not work for someone else.

Honestly though: I'm constantly suprised on how slowly Google is adopting AS on these phones. They didn't have calendar sync initially ... no idea why they are fighting this so much.
[EVO 4G Android Development] sxayarath:
Paypal donation confirmation #8BD08239334268229

Thanks all!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
couldn't agree more, i am also shocked that google hasn't stepped up either. the key to continued rapid adoption is to penetrate the enterprise and business and thats where google shows their shortcomings, and obviously where WP7 exceeds them
[EVO 4G Android Development] John Kotches:
I'm not an expert, but isnt the dominant corporate smartphone platform blackberry?

WM7 is barely out of the gates and IMO is too little too late from a company that is on the decline.

Swyped on my PC36100 using tapatalk!
[EVO 4G Android Development] ProcessorHog:
This is great news. Can't wait to get CM with Wimax on my phone. $15 donation made as pledged. Confirmation: 81E94654D1278882M
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
1. BB is dominant but iOS and android are both making inroads to their mobile market share so companies aren't going to want to pay for a BES server when you could see my second point

2. Office is the dominant office suite in the world especially in corporate/enterprise. Windows is 90% market share and makes billions a year in profit, hardly on the decline, stop with the mac FUD
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
1. agreed.

2. office's dominance has very little relevance in the mobile industry, where android is dominating in terms of growth. wp7 might very well be too little, too late. regardless of what i think, i'd definitely like to see microsoft try to flex it's senile muscles to push google and apple to innovate and further dominate. in the end though, i see google's hand patting their heads, saying "good game".

and that's what my half-asleep brain can provide tonight on this off-topic discussion.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
off topic for sure, but enterprise is not a space that should be ignored if either mobile OS wants to move in on enterprise and business. Keep in mind uncle sam exclusively runs MS Office and BB for their office suite and edge OS(my term ;) ) which the handheld space is exploding ending my turn down the off topic.

Back on topic: Its staring you in the face, donate your pledges already :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
i will, once kpoz sorts out the logistics. i have yet to talk to him about it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
not you in particular haha more in general since there was 132 unique pledgers, seriously though i thought that kpoz threw up shin's donate link in the OP?
[EVO 4G Android Development] John Kotches:
MS is on the decline. They are too slow to get out the relevant products.

Within the next 5 years (tops) with the exception of power users there will be little need for anything but phones / tablets and MS has (IMO) missed their chance...

When the masses stop paying the office tax, there goes a big cash cow for the company.

The smartphone era is the beginning of the paradigm shift.

Odd that you mention FUD which has been a long term tactic of MS.

Now to stay on topic, can't wait to load up 4G

Swyped on my PC36100 using tapatalk!
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
officially out of the MS discussion since we will end up going nowhere fast
[EVO 4G Android Development] smarcin:
Thanks to all the devs and testers for all your hard work! Confirmation #5X390469EH758342H.

I'm anxiously waiting 4G on CM!
[EVO 4G Android Development] mejor:
FYI - BES is free...
[EVO 4G Android Development] ssgelm:
I'm getting excited! Donated. Confirmation #8W462418HR222014L :) (Anyone else find it dumb that paypal's confirmation "number" has letters in it? :-P)
[EVO 4G Android Development] donatom3:
That's the link I just donated too.

It puts the reference Wimax Dev on your paypal payment. I know Shiznul's normal donation link doesn't have that.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Crossrocker:
I WANTS ME 4GS NOW. I DEMAND. I DEMAND. I DEMAND.

PS. GINGA AND SNAP TOGETHER WILL GIVE ME MULTIPLE ORGASMS AT THE SAME TIME.

PS2. @SHIFT DECEMBER 21, MY BIRTHDAY, IS COMING UP :D

PS3. I LOVE YOU SHINZUL AND TOAST. YOU GUYS GIVE ME ORGASMS EVERYDAY WHEN I CREEP ON THIS THREAD

PS4. KTHXBAI

A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on the IPhone. We now have the Htc Evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Frank_Murphy:
Just donated. Confirmation: 10J06205Y6132242M
[EVO 4G Android Development] JustRuin:
I'm just waiting to get paid tomorrow, as well as for kpoz to sort things out, so I can donate twice what I pledged. :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
Nothing to sort out, hit the donate button in the op
[EVO 4G Android Development] mitchellvii:
I am still having a hard time wrapping my mind around Shinzul's claim of 17 mbps downstream on 4G. I am sitting right next to a powerful N-router in my house and can crank only 12 mbps on my EVO on WIFI.

Most people using Sprint 4G are getting maybe 3 to 6 mbps. People on Clearwire are getting maybe 10 at best. So where the hell is Shinzul getting 17?

Unless he is using some other metric to measure mbps, it doesn't seem feasible to me. If, however, his team has managed a 350% increase on 4G speeds then they really will have something here. Still, will believe it when I see it. Call me old fashioned, but until I have something in my hot little hands and it works as promised - it's all vaporware to me.

I've been a headhunter in the IT business since before most of you people here were even a twinkle in your parent's eye, and believe me, I've seen a lot of big promises by some very smart people that never quite panned out as anticipated. In my experience, you follow a simple rule when measuring the likelihood of any event someone is promoting - "divide the positives by 2 and double the negatives and you might be close to how things eventually turn out". This is not a slam on the developers veracity but rather a natural result of people accentuating the positives of a product they are promoting while diminishing the negatives - in their own minds and to us. In other words, 4G on AOSP will be about half as good as advertised and run into about twice as many problems a predicted.

Last point, as Shinzul himself pointed out, UNTIL a FINISHED PRODUCT is available for public consumption it is unseemly to press people so hard for their donations. Sure, if you want to donate now, please do, but the constant badgering (by certain people - you know who you are) in this thread is annoying and improper.
[EVO 4G Android Development] BigRick10:
The first tester pulled a high of 17mbps. He also posted a pic of around 15mbps pages back. He say his speeds were normally in the 6-8mbps i think. Here is the pic of around 15mbps.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xHausx:
Those are bits not bytes, it actually comes out to around 1mb/s

Bits / 8 = bytes

bytes / 1028 = kilobytes

kilobytes / 1028 = megabytes

It's definitely possible to get speeds that high with wimax though

edit: Just realized you were saying megabits, 15 is right then :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] aduljr:
I just donated 5 bucks
[EVO 4G Android Development] BigRick10:
Just noticed your edit so nvm then lol

I never got a reply when i asked but what does that upload read???
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
Just a reminder from op

updated my ban list haha
[EVO 4G Android Development] jonathaflores:
you can be sited next to the most powerful n-router but if you only pay for 10mbps that is all you going to get , so yea!! your post doesn't even make sense!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
consider the source haha, E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
please delete.
[EVO 4G Android Development] DarkManX4lf:
I thought it was 1024...... not 1028.
[EVO 4G Android Development] John Kotches:
It it's 1024 per binary kilobyte (2^10).

Network speeds are decimal k (10^3).

Swyped on my PC36100 using tapatalk!
[EVO 4G Android Development] pcondosta:
put in $50 donation, you guys deserve it.

Confirmation number: 7RT65882RG544850G
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
folks...

a couple of things....

for those that donated, awesome! for those that are waiting to experience it firsthand before donating, that's perfectly fine. in fact, i'd say it's more than reasonable.

let's chill with the squabbling over math. it doesn't matter anymore. what is pertinent is the fact that we're seeing wimax numbers on cm. the numbers that shinzul has shared throughout prove we're seeing wimax speeds on cm. how can you tell? look at the upload speeds if you don't trust the download ones. 3g does not allow ~1mbps upload.

also, once again as a clarification, not all areas have equal wimax speeds.
[EVO 4G Android Development] SantinoInc:
Shift in your guessimation what is the ETA for 4G on CM?
[EVO 4G Android Development] swaze:
More than likely, Feb at the earliest.
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
too early to tell. like eyeballer1 mentioned, we're putting in commands manually. we need to automate it. however, we made pretty good progress last night, as the chat excerpt shows. it was a very "HOLYCRAPWOO!" moment, for lack of a better phrase.
[EVO 4G Android Development] HondaCop:
Some time after today.

Sent via my EVO from the backseat of your Momma's SUV.
[EVO 4G Android Development] timothydoanpham:
ah Honda your quips always makes me smile. ^_^
[EVO 4G Android Development] p-slim:
Nobody will answer just for simple fear of missing that date. Honestly im praying and hoping an alpha build before christmas but no one really knows. Honestly I don't feel any closer then last month but at least with shinzul's post we know its almost here.
[EVO 4G Android Development] DraginMagik:
naw. our devs wish to be the only ones with AOSP 4G, so they'll just sit on their nifty lil electronic thrones and enjoy the begging from the masses for a few months. it entertains them to see so many grovel at their mad skillz. not letting us have any good toys or tools or fun configuration options is proven by their track record.

/end sarcasm here

:D

** may their fingers never grow tired and their caffeine container never go dry. code on boys, code on. **
[EVO 4G Android Development] HondaCop:
I always try to keep a fun atmosphere. :-)

Sent via my EVO from the backseat of your Momma's SUV.
[EVO 4G Android Development] WrlsFanatic:
How can you be worried about an ETA? I don't even think I'll be ready for it, seeing as how I need to figure out which of the 6 widgets in my notification bar I can live without!!!

Edit: You know, I think I'm going to go with getting rid of the sound widget. PHEW! Just in time. :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] p-slim:
Haha, I have 6 also. Im almost positive alpha release wont have that implemented but when it is I already did decide which one to remove, lol
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shinzul:
Just to give everyone an idea of how far we've come...

This time last month (November 20, 2010), in CM6, the following was working:

1) Start the wimax driver

2) Uhh...

Right now in CM6, the following is working:

1) Start the wimax driver

2) Scan for a network

3) Connect to a network

4) Obtain an IP address

5) Route the IP's correctly

6) 4g speeds!

I'd say we are a lot farther than last month ;) I know it doesn't feel that way until you actually have something in your hands to test with, but believe me, it is better off for all involved for us to release a user-friendly version that works out of the box for everyone instead of a crappy version that works for some people, but not all.

I sit upon a throne of technology looking down upon the lowly pleebs. I shall eventually release an alpha out of pity.

Thanks for the laugh ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] timothydoanpham:
to take out of context.

ALL HAIL SHINZUL!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] joe85:
What exactly is missing then?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Justin.G11:
A UI, for one.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dkelle4:
Being able to turn it off.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Justin.G11:
I find the number of posts you crank out in this thread to be well above your average posts I see from you in other threads. Most people would agree they only see 5 posts per thread average from you, but here in this WIMAX thread you are somehow pulling off THREE TIMES THAT. Unless Shinzul as pulled off some magic I find it hard to believe you really are who you say you are and that this is some kind of mod trickery. That said, I don't know if we're any closer to see these kinds of posts from shift_ in reality ... as this is probably just some kind of lever bot while the devs of this board enjoy real posts from shift_...
[EVO 4G Android Development] HondaCop:
That should be easy. Just reverse the process of turning it on. You're welcome. No need to send donations my way. Just me giving back to the community.

Sent via my EVO from the backseat of your Momma's SUV.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
It is tough to put a value on what you contribute
[EVO 4G Android Development] BigRick10:
Lmfao!!! Pure awesomeness
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
lol i'm not even sure how to respond to this...

rest assured, i am no bot and there is no mod trickery.
[EVO 4G Android Development] meatwad0222:
im not seeing how anything YOU just posted contributes to this forum thread in any way, but hey have fun cuz youll get 4g when you get 4g
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
Dude relax he was being funny and complimenting shift at the same time. Some people need to smoke trees haha
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shinzul:
*pulls the shift_ strings*

Yesssss my bot army, yesssss... uh, I mean, wait what?
[EVO 4G Android Development] nicholaaaas:
don't they have the open source code from clear?
[EVO 4G Android Development] p-slim:
Don't waste your time responding, he obviously has no clue about what's going on. Cm said it will probably be in the next release, obviously its possible
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
lmfao.....
[EVO 4G Android Development] MadhouseMedic:
Better bring some corks! (And that's only if i don't decide to go to the 870 Express Pump. If i do, you better bring a mop and bucket)
[EVO 4G Android Development] andre104623:
Forum Rules

8. Donations.

We appreciate all donations to xda-developers.com, it keeps our forum online and well maintained. As a user you're allowed to ask for donations in your signature as a thank you for your hard work. However donations up front are not allowed, this forum is about sharing, not about getting paid to do something, that's what your job is for.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Rumor has it, someone is creating it from scratch.

*sarcasm*

Can we all please keep this thread focused? If you have questions about 4G, why it is not already in CM6, etc., please search the Q&A sub-forum. This is not said sub-forum.
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
just noticed that we hit $595... WOW!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] yungwunn911:
Ill throw in ten bucks for sure. Its killing my that I can't use 4g in Philly. But I love cm6
[EVO 4G Android Development] DanBergundy:
That is saying the opposite of what is happening here. You cannot ask for donations up front promising to develop something. There is nothing wrong with people committing to donating once something is completed.
[EVO 4G Android Development] p-slim:
Donations and bountys are nowhere near the same concept.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
We have eclipsed the $600 mark!
[EVO 4G Android Development] r.mauldin:
It is actually a "Pool". ;)

Add $10 from me to the list so I can post in this thread with out fear. :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] r.mauldin:
Wow, with your total of 9 posts your are an expert on the rules.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Haha.

Rabble rabble rabble rabble!
[EVO 4G Android Development] UND3RTAK3R:
Donation

Where is the donation link I did not see one in the op?...Is it on the cyanogen web page cause I would like to donate

UND3RTAK3R
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
At this stage, individuals are current pledging donations. I will pm the aforementioned individuals when the donation process will actually occur, and I will update the OP as well.

I have yet to decide how the donation process will occur. Please feel free to pledge a donation, however.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Saturn2K:
The plan is to collect all this money, then send it to Cyanogen with the message "Wimax plz"

So, it's not quite a bounty which could entice new users to address the problem. It's essentially just to guilt them into focusing more on 4G. I hope it works.
[EVO 4G Android Development] UND3RTAK3R:
WELL I PLEDGE 15 US DEAD PRESIDENTS!¡!¡!

UND3RTAK3R

$15.00
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Thanks for contributing!
[EVO 4G Android Development] HondaCop:
And when he says that after working his ass off, Wimax on CM6 is just not feasible, what is going to happen? Everyone will want a refund?

- Sent via my EVO from the back seat of your Momma's SUV.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kevinbear:
In the interest of the people asking for a timeframe:

I guess rather than giving a date estimate, maybe the question is should we be looking at days, weeks, or months? Obviously, still would be a "best guess" not an ETA.

For me, it's no rush. Phone works great on 3G and I'm not paying for my plan (Sprint Executive plan... sell Sprint service where I work). Just merely a cherry on top when I get a chance to use the blazing 4G speeds now available around me.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
**cough** run sense rom **cough**
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
O_O

must... obey... master...

must flash.... run commands.... collect logs....
[EVO 4G Android Development] Justin.G11:
Wait ... really? For real?

Apparently i need a [badjoke] [/badjoke] bracket around half my posts ...
[EVO 4G Android Development] meatwad0222:
ahhh....the impracticle art of forum sarcasm....always lost on me....im in due need for a flashaholics meeting
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
Don't sweat it shift is active on twitter, facebook, myspace, linkedin, XDA irc, aol, yahoo, google talk, email, sms, mms and ptt and still finds time to dev..... so that was kinda an obvious one haha
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
negatory on myspace, linkedin, aol, yahoo, and ptt. throw in smoke signals and flares though and you're pretty damn accurate.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
haha, and i WAS being sarcastic. i took some liberties by listing pretty much everything i don't use other than xda and sms, but your the james brown of the evo community haha
[EVO 4G Android Development] Rem3Dy:
What! No messaging birds?
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
i got rid of them once wimax started working in cm.
[EVO 4G Android Development] 00_MACKIE_00:
What is 4G?

Sorry if this has been asked before, I am new here.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
wimax which has increased speeds
[EVO 4G Android Development] stangdriverdoug:
Will someone be my facebook friend?
[EVO 4G Android Development] peoplesinc:
Well if you are asking, you probably don't have the benefit of having it in your city. It's an enhanced network frequency that allows for higher wireless speeds.
[EVO 4G Android Development] HondaCop:
4G is a faster way of Sprint milking our wallets. They call it rich, multimedia content. No need to apologize.

Sent via my EVO from the backseat of your Momma's SUV.
[EVO 4G Android Development] timothydoanpham:
so honda are you the same honda back from the sprintusers.com forum days?
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
ok i f'n lol'd... well played, mackie... well played.
[EVO 4G Android Development] HondaCop:
Naaaaah, never been a member of that site.

Sent via my EVO from the backseat of your Momma's SUV.
[EVO 4G Android Development] peoplesinc:
I'm guessing we missed the sarcasm
[EVO 4G Android Development] hondoslack:
Thou shalt pay an extra 10 dollars per month because of our true awesome 3.5 g network that we are marketing as 4g... Thou shalt also suffer for thy faster speeds by shortened battery life. It is written in the book of Sprint, chapter Wimax?
[EVO 4G Android Development] p-slim:
Sprint wimax is 4G I don't know why people keep saying it isnt, please read this

http://is.gd/j3XNy
[EVO 4G Android Development] HondaCop:
As per the article you posted: "In the light of many recent carriers utilizing 4G denominations to describe their network data speed, ITU's statement involving early 2012 specifications at least makes it clear that real 4G networks offering real 4G speeds are still a matter of future."

You might want to read that article again.

Sent via my EVO from the backseat of your Momma's SUV.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Justin.G11:
Meh... I just flashed my AAA card and had a discount applied that completely offset the premium, so no worries there.

That said, 9 out of 10 iPhone owners when asked what they hate most about their phone reply with "AT&T". Moral of the story: the grass isn't always greener on the other side.
[EVO 4G Android Development] meatwad0222:
DREAMING: Evo on hspa+ style 4g....one can dream right
[EVO 4G Android Development] kageneko:
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/121710-itu-softens-on-the-definition.html

"As the most advanced technologies currently defined for global wireless mobile broadband communications, IMT-Advanced is considered as '4G,'" the press release said, "although it is recognized that this term, while undefined, may also be applied to the forerunners of these technologies, LTE and WiMax, and to other evolved 3G technologies providing a substantial level of improvement in performance and capabilities with respect to the initial third generation systems now deployed."

So now ITU says that WIMAX and LTE are 4G... but then the ITU is pretty worthless to begin with ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
They buckled under pressure from Sprint. So, yea, I agree.. pretty worthless :)

Swyped from my EVO
[EVO 4G Android Development] HondaCop:
lol

Sent via my EVO from the backseat of your Momma's SUV.
[EVO 4G Android Development] sturmen:
Open source Initiative - 1

Proprietary Code - 0
[EVO 4G Android Development] Award Tour:
Dunno' if it's needed but since it took all of 5 minutes to make I'm posting them anyway. Here are some extra AOSP-y 4G icons for Froyo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Justin.G11:
4G and only 3 bars? Gees! The nerve of some people!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Award Tour:
I could have sworn that Sense had 3? Maybe I was wrong, it's been a while.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
classic!!

10 char
[EVO 4G Android Development] danielzen:
Just sent another $20 your way....

Thank you!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
Sense has 3 waves and the actual 4G notation itself.

Swyped from my EVO
[EVO 4G Android Development] timtlm:
Sense has 3 bars, and the 4g counts as a 4th because it lights up white and goes gray. Also will need some gingerbread icons soon too ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] h2o-pr00f:
Nice! But.. you might want to make a gingerbread style icon too... you know .. to be future-proof :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] psych2l:
Just turn it green and your done :p
[EVO 4G Android Development] JustRuin:
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

+1

Good times are had in this thread. A ROLLERCOASTER OF EMOTION
[EVO 4G Android Development] timtlm:
Actually, the other option is just to make the 4G icon with up/down arrows like the 3G, and then the bars just switch to displaying the 4G signal instead of 3G.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ViViDboarder:
I think it makes sense the way it is since it's more like your Wifi connection.

It's data only. Voice still should be going over 3G. It'd be good to have both signals.