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[EVO 4G General] carguy4471:
It is not conditioning your battery.

When you charge your new evo and it hits 100%, the phone STOPS charging. It has no trickle charge. It begins charging again at 90% if still plugged in, although it reads 100% until it comes off the charger.

SO, when you unplug it, it says 100%, but could be anywhere between 90 and 100. If you simply unplug your phone, wait for it to display something other than fully charged (usually takes 30-60 seconds), then plug it back in, it will then charge back to 100%. You can simply unplug it, wait a few and then plug it back in while you go about your shower and cereal. When you are ready to leave the house you'll probably be at or near 100% instead of seeing it drop to something much lower.

This is NOT conditioning your battery. A more appropriate term would be "bump charging". As you are simply bumping it back to a charge state when it was in a resting state.

Another GREAT method of increasing battery life is resetting your battery stats. This is clearing out what the phone defines as full, and as empty and setting up these values again. I am not sure why, but they are off on many phones. They also get wiped anytime you flash a new rom so this procedure would again be in order if you experience poor battery life.

These are the instructions straight off cyanogen wiki. You can also reset them using Amon recovery.

Battery recalibration

If you're experiencing higher than normal battery drain, try the following:

1.Charge the phone to full battery; let it keep charging until the battery says it is fully charged. Do not just wait until the light is green, it isn't always fully charged, causing a lot of inaccuracies. (You can check by going to: Settings -> About Phone -> Status -> Battery Level = Full.)

2.Boot to recovery mode and go to console (or adb shell) and type:

mount -a

rm /data/system/batterystats.bin

NOTE: Newer Amon_Ra and ClockworkMod recoveries have an option to delete the battery stats, do this in place of the console commands above.

NOTE: To have the most accurate of battery stats, reboot the phone immediately after wiping the battery stats and wait for CM to boot completely to the desktop. Once your entire boot is done and you have full access to the phone, go ahead and pull the charger and continue with this troubleshooter.

1.Do not charge the phone until after draining the battery completely, resulting in it automatically shutting off.

2.Recharge the phone completely and then use as you normally would.
[EVO 4G General] surrealmethod:
Excellent write up carguy... +15 internets to you
[EVO 4G General] carguy4471:
why thank you kind sir!
[EVO 4G General] Sporkman:
sprint rep is an idiot and if you took the time to search instead of making this post you could have saved yourself some trouble
[EVO 4G General] DraginMagik:
no...i can't imagine anyone 'conditions' their battery daily. however, if experiencing issues wiping the stats and doing the conditioning thing do have an impact.
[EVO 4G General] superlinkx:
While most of the battery problem isn't the plotter app, the plotter app is using a fair amount of battery, so I usually would recommend not having such apps running except when you are diagnosing problems. Turn off various apps sync settings and keep background apps to a minimum, like juice plotter, battery widgets, and other data intensive apps and widgets. That right there will save you some power. Other than that, follow all the excellent suggestions that are already in this thread. Oh, and I find I get better battery when I just don't worry about it. I set up all my sync services and then leave them alone. Then just go about my day, using my phone as needed. Constantly worrying about it only wastes power because you are constantly fiddling with settings and apps.
[EVO 4G General] dallashigh:
PROTIP: Never believe anything a cellular rep tells you. Ever. EVER!
[EVO 4G General] LordLugard:
The Evo just has terrible battery life, that's my personal conclusion. One of the trade offs with such a huge screen and such. You'd think that in this day and age battery technology would have kept up with all the other bells and whistles, but no.
[EVO 4G General] LordLugard:
I'm sorry but that all sounds like the formula to derive the circumference of the nucleus of an atomic variable perpendicular to the perimeter of the nth root in relation to the isosceles of the .........geezus, all that just to get a smidgen of decent battery life... :eek: :confused:
[EVO 4G General] infamousjax:
You. Can. Not. Condition. Lithium-ion. Batteries.
[EVO 4G General] daving313:
Best advice from personal experience... uninstall all battery plotters and percentage widgets. Use the phone and charge it. As long as you aren't draining your battery to empty there is no harm. You're wasting your own time worrying about these kinds of things.

Please Google "battery university" before posting on this anymore.
[EVO 4G General] Mark_in_Tulsa:
I do believe in the fact that it charges to 100% and then doesn't start charging again until it hurts a certain point. But why do we think it's 90%. Is this a guess or did someone do some math on this. Because if I was to guess mine seems to wait until it drops to 95% before it starts charging again.

Of course I have done no tests nor put a lot of thought into it, but I never felt it was dropping all the way until 90%.
[EVO 4G General] potna:
I Googled battery university as instructed, and while this may be a good read, I simply don't have time to get a degree in batteries just to figure out why my phone wont hold a good charge. As for your request for me to stop posting on this, are you a mod? Is is an official demand, or what, or perhaps you needed to feel important.

I really don't believe all the crap people are saying. It's like people get emotionaly attached to an idea and stick to it. I keep getting all this crap from here and sprint about conditioning and battery drain. So I give. I'll try another phone, and if that don't work maybe ill check out the Droid x.
[EVO 4G General] sprink0281:
Big screen, mini computer, 1ghz CPU, apps running, no new battery technology = battery drain!

How long does a laptop run off single charge.....not very long considering the size of the laptop battery...

Face it this little battery we have in our mini computers (evo) is not going to last if steps are not taken to extend the life. Just think about it for a minute and common sense will prevail....
[EVO 4G General] daving313:
If that 5-10% of drain is not getting you through your day then return the phone or get an extended battery. This "issue" has been discussed since the phone came out. It has never bothered me as I usually don't charge to 100%. With proper use of features and syncing, my battery life is great and on par with previous smartphones I have owned.
[EVO 4G General] Nagrom Nniuq:
The phone doesn't trickle charge, that is what is well documented and stupid. The easiest solution is not the stupid conditioning, which will only waste your time, but to take your phone off the charger in the morning for a minute or two, and then plug it back in for 5-10 minutes. Problem solved, though we shouldn't have the problem at all...
[EVO 4G General] sombdy:
I was agreeing with you all the way until you wrote this. It is inadvisable to completely drain the battery before recharging since this is where damage can occur. Discharging a Li-ion battery too far can cause an irreversible reaction inside the cells of the battery that will prevent it from holding a charge at all. This commonly happens in laptop batteries.

Somehow this rule carried over from Ni-Cad rechargeables. Ni-Cads are the only rechargeable batteries that suffer from memory effect and thus need to be discharged fully before charging again. The belief that any other type of rechargeable needs this same procedure is simply a myth, an urban legend.

To the OP, my advice would be to follow the warnings that tell you to plug your phone in when the battery is low.

If you want overall longer battery life, then you will have to root, install a custom ROM, and install a custom kernel so that you can tweak. If you don't want to do that, just follow the threads above about reducing background syncing, and then install Juice Defender from the market which has shown to improve battery life without needing to root.
[EVO 4G General] sombdy:
Actually that is misnomer. A trickle charge is where a higher voltage is used in order to achieve a faster charge. In most charging systems once it has reached 99%, it switches over to a floating charge which uses a low "floating" voltage to match the rate of discharge in order to maintain the battery at 100%. Of course, lithiums are so great at maintaining a charge that they don't need a floating system. So the trickle system in the EVO, I would guess, is programmed to cutoff at 100% and then not come back on until 90%. That would explain why the top off method works.
[EVO 4G General] Nagrom Nniuq:
Except that every phone in the last decade has used li-ion batteries and none of them have had a problem of it not keeping the battery charged... fail.
[EVO 4G General] Sporkman:
thats funny i have 4 email accounts set to sync every hour facebook twitter same i run battery plotter and still get 27 hours with moderate to heavy usage so im happy
[EVO 4G General] Sporkman:
27 hours is bad ?

when my evo was stock the BB rep told me not to expect more than 6 hours with a few minor tweaks i found here i was able to push it to 9

do i need 27 hours nope but its nice to have hell id be happy with 12 hour
[EVO 4G General] superlinkx:
Your mileage may vary. I was more talking about absolute ways to extend battery. If you turned off sync and your battery plotter, you'd probably get even more battery life. Not sure why you'd want to but you get the point. I get plenty of battery life and I leave all sorts of things running. I probably have 137 apps installed and all sorts of things happening and still get plenty of battery. I just tell people to limit certain apps and radios to help them when they aren't getting enough battery.

What kernel/rom/customizations are you using?
[EVO 4G General] johnnychimpo:
27hr up up time or awake time? I easily get 40hrs up time with an average of 6hrs awake time with stock batt.

Sent from my EVO
[EVO 4G General] Nagrom Nniuq:
I get 5-6 hours of solid (screen always on, internet always being used or video always being played) use off of one battery. I consider this good, as my Touch Pro 2 and Touch both got less. In fact, I don't know of any other phone that does significantly better with the same size battery (please prove me wrong).
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] geooo:
1 week ago i noticed that i cannot connect over my wifi in a mecdonalds. I went in my vacantion and came back to see that my milestone cant surf the web over wifi at my own place or at work. I tested the connection with a 5800 and a xperia 10...no problems there.

The events prior the "no internet over wifi" event:

Updated the milestone over wifi (45 mb I think), then routed the device.

It worked flawlessly for 2 weeks....after the 2 weeks...disaster NO INTERNET OVER WIFI :(((((((((

help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help

LE: Factory reset did the trick
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] solnyshok:
I lost my wifi after I rooted my xt720 too, after couple of days...
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] veneirt:
i have the same problem: sometimes the wi-fi can't see the network for some days...
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] solnyshok:
I reflashed my phone and WiFi is back
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] veneirt:
did you used a wipe or rdslite with the original sbf?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] solnyshok:
RSDLite with sbf
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Gho57:
How i can change name of android client in my router dhcp tab?

I have name of my pc, laptop and an android_9564d56d632e549c:(

it's possible?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] madreddog:
My Desire shows up with a similar long-winded identity on my router's DHCP table in spite of having set the Device Name to a much more recognisable name. Every other device on the network (various laptops, other mobiles etc.) shows up in the list with their user defined name but not my Desire and I can't find any way to alter it.

HTC customer services didn't really understand what I meant, at least the guy I spoke to didn't! He reckoned it was a burnt-in identity number put there by HTC when the phone was built. Not sure I go with that.

I know it's not going to stop the World from turning but I would just like to see my phone identified by the name I've given it. Does anyone know how to change it from gobbledygook to my choice?

BTW it shows up ok on a bluetooth connection and also in HTC Sync. Just not in Connected Clients DHCP Table on the router.
[Off-topic] husam666:
Developers don't be angry but it was just a matter of time

So, I managed to make android work on my Rhodium. And it's easy to do

I was reading and I found out people made wm6 work on their nokia n900 and even vista so what I did is what they did:

Dont forget this for faster vista ultimate:

For further information here is the link to the forum:

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=20862

And reading and following links in that forum, and because I use my TP2 as 3G modem i got sick of it getting real hot, not to mention the PC so I did what this guy did here: http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56924

Try it, it works on every device not only TP2s

Good Luck

plz ppl don't feel offended by this thread!
[Off-topic] redpoint73:
Worst post ever.
[Off-topic] DonDie:
Wauw, what if someone's house burns down or worse, the batt explodes in their face and get blind!
[Off-topic] Reefermattness:
Did it work? LOL

I like the water-cooling thread. :eek::eek:
[Off-topic] Alcoholic:
Why would anyone find humar in this?
[Off-topic] electrikjesus:
after all the NOOB questions on the android thread, this is just what I needed to see. Thanks for the laugh.

One point. You need to provide all the info on the first post, no links. this will give them a better chance of success on the first try.
[myTouch 3G Slide Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mechlixt:
okay so im trying to root my mytouch slide using this method...

http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/Operat...de/td-p/446972

and i get to the part where i am in the HBOOT screen and its trying to update the ESPRIMG but i get an error saying "Main version is older! update fail! do you want to reboot device?"

ive went through the root process multiple times and i keep getting the same error. i tried different ESPRIMG and still the same error...please can someone help me?
[myTouch 3G Slide Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kkeller416:
i do believe thats a normal thing when you first start

just keep going on to the next step
[myTouch 3G Slide Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] epeets:
well, seeing as that link is not working for me, I'm just gonna take it as a bad idea to follow whatever path that was. Check the stickies @ the top of this section and START OVER. We have a few methods to root and they're ALL guranteed to work if you follow the instructions exactly.

However, if you want an answer to what exactly is wrong with the step your on, you have the wrong or bad ESPRIMG somehow. Once again go into the stickies (Rom Bible on preferred) and click on any one of the Root procedures to get the right ESPRIMG for that step. If it still doesn't work, start over. I would recommend you use Eugene's method. Its the original and not the fastest but its the one I use and it works. Can't ask for more!
[myTouch 3G Slide Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ratchetrizzo:
It sounds like you forgot some steps, follow this root method, it works.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=754020&page=7

I think you forgot to do the stuff with flash_image and mtd0.img to trick the slide into allowing the older flash.

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1.adb push /{the folder u downloaded it to}/flash_image /data/local

2.adb push /{the folder u downloaded it to}/mtd0.img /data/local

Phone Booted up all the way.

3.Extract Exploid.zip to the SDK Tools Directory

4.Make sure your phone is in USB debugging mode AND you are in "Charge Only" mode.

5.Connect your phone to your computer.

6.Make sure you're in the same directory as where exploid is extracted before continuing to the next step.( will be Android-SDK-Windows\Tools

7.Issue the following command: adb push exploid /sqlite_stmt_journals. Note: It MUST be in that directory - NO exceptions.

8.adb shell

9.cd /sqlite_stmt_journals

10.chmod 0755 exploid

11./exploid

12.Toggle your phone's Wifi (on or off, however you wish to do that).

13.Now (again) run: ./exploid

14.It should prompt you for a password, enter: secretlol.

15.cd /data/local

16.chmod 04755 *

17./data/local/flash_image misc /data/local/mtd0.img

18.Power Off Phone!

19.Power on Using Volume Down + Power

20.hit Volume Up to Update!!!
[EVO 4G General] willy900wonka:
Seems that the Droid 2 method will work on EVO fryo 2.2.

Please wait to have it verified. The second link is a guide.

As always, be aware of the potential to damage your phone.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=764950

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=765496

Imagine... Notoriety, Respect, Recognition of your work, all because YOU found the way. Your work will result in rooting thousands of phones. Mention of you in the Android wiki. Forever revered in the Android Hall of Fame.

People who have waited to join the ranks of rooted EVO users, will now be able to fully enjoy their purchase (my son amongst them).

Your Forum of choice recognized as the vehicle of android development, for all to see. Sprint's customer base increased, as people recognize that they aren't dead headed.

Everyone wins, especially Sprint, but YOU will be the Super Hacker !
[EVO 4G General] Deleted member 2643295:
What the hell are you talking about bro ?

Just be patient. LOL

I have 2.2 also, but it really is not the end of the world.

Man you guys are really impatient, but then again this is america. People wany everything to be a quick fix. And every one thinks they deserve everything and they are the most important person in the world.

After all the threads I have read, you EVO guys are the funniest.

Sent from my phone bone
[EVO 4G General] teedo757:
and I wonder why it takes 5 minutes to find a thread I want to check up on.......
[EVO 4G General] dustindavidson900:
Why would you say he is being impatient? If you really did read threads you would know that the evo was hacked (rooted) before it even got released to the general public. So i would have to say that he is not being impatient, but rather curious as to why 2.2 hasnt been rooted yet considering how fast it was hacked in the first place.
[EVO 4G General] _Burst_:
Agree ^_^b
[EVO 4G General] willy900wonka:
Thank You!

This is for my son who recently contracted EVO-itis and every other EVO user who is not able to fully use their purchase.

I kept my 2.1 root through Netarchie and KingX (BFS #3).
[EVO 4G General] dustindavidson900:
It will happen! I think the delay is because of all the focus going towards perfecting the cyanogen mod, unrevoked forever, and not to mention the crazy kernel battle that is going on. It will happen, who knows maybe you will be the superstar that cracks the code...
[EVO 4G General] willy900wonka:
Thanks! I couldn't hack my way out of a wet paper bag. Though I do think I have the God given right to. LMAO
[EVO 4G General] nenn:
fully use their purchase? are you kidding me?

i dont want to generalize, but what? skinz? themez?

does your son NEED to flash roms? NEED root? Doubtful. im sure the majority of the people here dont NEED root, but more so WANT it, myself included.

Before i go off on a rant about the general populus. Just wait. The phone was rooted before it was released to the general public because it was released at a DEVELOPERS CONFERENCE.

Meaning, a ton of generally smart people were together in a small space for a few days and they wanted root. They got it. the root was probably a oversight on the development side of HTC.

Just because you can get root once or twice very quickly doesnt mean it'll always happen that way.

POR EJEMPLO: Sonys ps3 still hasnt been hacked. Ive been waiting a very long time.

Its been hacked. now thats just a ****ing pisser for my analogy. Hackaday-Link

Patience, most people need to learn it.
[EVO 4G General] willy900wonka:
The Incredible OTA was postponed :

gbhil :Droid Incredible Froyo update not coming today, Verizon says on Twitter | Android Central http://t.co/Esbvksv
[EVO 4G General] willy900wonka:
SO Who's phone is it? Sprints or the owner? OOPS by definition the owner. Sprint sells access rights to their network.

You are right, in that choosing the Sprint EVO was not wise?
[EVO 4G General] nenn:
im not about to get into a pissing contest.

my point is, without the WONDERFUL people we have here developing MANY people wouldnt have root.

If you want root so damned bad then learn the operating system/programming/debugging/tracing/exploting/system calls/kernel development and find the damn exploit yourself or STFU.

Im thankful there are great people here making this phone better and better. If you cant wait then GTFO.

Im off to read about how the ps3 was hacked. Have a wonderful day.
[EVO 4G General] willy900wonka:
OK? Have a wonderful day. LMAO!!

Do I need to justify my non-sprint POV where I feel that the owner owns. The network provider provides access.

Now I don't know much about exploits, but the issue is the checksum code which prevents users from flashing known exploits which will work. The superuser mode is built in to the processor. DUH!
[EVO 4G General] Smac7:
the ps3 analogy is still legit i would say. i guess technically its been hacked, it still cannot run backups which would be the only reason to hack it in the first place. plus the hacker, geohot, has given up on the project. (supposedly)
[EVO 4G General] omegasun18:
yea though this is kinda hijacking the thread. I dont consider the ps3 hacked until you can burna g ame and play it from disk or hdd with out having to have had the origonal disc to put it on the hdd.

as for the root stuff. no one said you didnt owner your phone. i think he was scoffing at the fully use his purchase aprt as he can use every feature of the phone stock ... you just cant get all the extra goodies like better battery faster speeds etc.

anyway i am sure it will happen. people dont understand that the way root happens is that an exploit or ug has to be found to get by security. this changes and each new one found is ussually fixed in the next OTA. as time goes on it becoems harder and harder. it can take weeks and months to find an exploit that lets you use get the ability to root. I know every oen is anxious but give it time. I mean droid X has been out how long and you cant install custom roms yet on it ... we are lucky with evos.
[EVO 4G General] hooover:
I have 2.2 rooted, guess you shouldn't have did the ota!!!:p
[EVO 4G General] iitreatedii:
Actually the ps3 can now play back up games off the hard drive or a fat32 external with the introduction of this new mod chip. It's just a usb stick that plugs in, no soldering or opening the ps3
[EVO 4G General] smw6180:
...Another pointless and bickering laden thread. XDA used to be a decent place, but now? All I see is *****ing and moaning everywhere.

Some minor points of etiquette:

1. If you don't like the post, don't comment in it.

2. If you are making a post, make it in the proper section (this barely qualifies)

3. If you MUST comment, make it constructive, and topical, rather than whining.

4. Always use that search key prior to posting.

If people would follow those simple steps (and they used to, I have no idea what happened around here in the last 4-5 months, to be honest) XDA could go back to being a decent place to collaberate. But I don't really expect it to happen.
[EVO 4G General] NRGZ28:
It's not XDA's fault for the *****y, whiny Android users that come here. Got to the Windows side of things and you'll find a MUCH more professional atmoshpere...

Now stay on topic, or we'll just close the thread for being useless...