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[Droid Eris Android Development] rigbyrobot:
Im running the same, but ever since I installed setcpu, even after uninstalling it, on this rom my battery life has decreased from what it was clean with no tweaks, I wonder if setcpu leaves a little tidbits of itself that dosnt work well with this rom, I may reflash and see depending on how collins works out with out a reflash
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
Good idea keep us posted
[Droid Eris Android Development] rick311:
so from what im understanding, setcpu is bad?
[Droid Eris Android Development] BOY_:
not necessisarily, the battery tweak works similarly to SetCPU without the overhead of an app running in the background. As with everything there are pros and cons.
[Droid Eris Android Development] rick311:
well, im not smart enough to run a battery tweak. set cpu was easy for me. cant wait to see what your final thoughts on this are.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Hungry Man:
Pros of setcpu: more control/ customizing

cons: extra app running/ can be glitchy
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
Everyone shut off your WiFi

Do Colin battery tweak

Report back

I have custom settings down to 19 on demand
[Droid Eris Android Development] rigbyrobot:
What do you mean? I keep my wifi off unless im at my house.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Hungry Man:
Flashed the newest Kaos Froyo, recalibrate the battery... I'm getting far less then with Tazz. It's weird.
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
Yea me too I leave my WiFi on at home too... I never realized home much of a sucker it was

I turned mine off completely

I'm on 14hrs 60% normal usage
[Droid Eris Android Development] Hungry Man:
There's a nice build.prop fix I've posted somewhere to help wifi battery drain.
[Droid Eris Android Development] rigbyrobot:
I've never seen that kind of battery life, but I would consider my self a heavy user, once I finish trying to build a patch for v35 to import collins settings after boot (im no dev. so its slow going), im going to reflash and recalibrate to test my theory that setcpu affects this rom badly even after an uninstall. How strong is your wifi signal? I have a wrt160n plus a wrt54g flashed with dd- wrt and set up as a repeater, in a small house which gives me a strong signal everywhere and wifi seems to drain less battery than 3g.
[Droid Eris Android Development] rigbyrobot:
On the subject of wifi http://tinyurl.com/36ugo5a
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
me neither and i average about 20 hrs max normal usage with wifi on wile im at home

by my estimates i should reach 30+ plus and im in the middle of a battery recalibration (draining phase)

and have been running colins_ph battery tweak on top of that so it could be more...

and yes its a stock battery running V.35-1:D
[Droid Eris Android Development] workshed:
lol, doh! ... gemro! ;)
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
just to let you guys know i killed my battery after 27hrs with wifi off the whole time and 3g on plus colins tweak
[Droid Eris Android Development] Hungry Man:
Open pandora and see how long you can run it.

The main problem I have is with things that use internet. Pandora will kill my battery in around 6 hours.
[Droid Eris Android Development] TheSonicEmerald:
How come powersave bias does the same thing as underclock? Also, since we can't change sampling rate and stuff like on SetCPU, is putting the min on 19200 helpful?

Sent from Eris with Froyo
[Droid Eris Android Development] Hungry Man:
19mhz is still a different voltage.
[Droid Eris Android Development] TheSonicEmerald:
I

But how often does the phone go into 19200?

Sent from Eris with Froyo
[Droid Eris Android Development] rigbyrobot:
Do you have good coverage? You might want to try a diffrant radio, I flashed down from 4.27 to 2.02 and gains x2 in battery life
[Droid Eris Android Development] kmo97:
Bump!

Can we get this thread rockin again?
[Droid Eris Android Development] Notxok:
Three words... Collins battery tweak...

Get it and you wont regret it
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
sure if you want i dont use setcpu anymore

plus the thread evolved into the newer tweak thread

YEA

i dont get why so many people are quick to overclock

but are scared to underclock the cpu :confused:
[Droid Eris Android Development] Hungry Man:
Well the nice thing about setcpu is that you don't have to choose between the two =p
[Droid Eris Android Development] rick311:
so i had to ditch the collin batter tweak and go back to setcpu, but conditioning the battery helped out a ton! i used my phone pretty heavy these last couple of days. LOTS of phone calls, some angry birds, lots of texting, and other apps that require interent access. here are my results:

^-- i was at about 13% battery when i took this.

after 2 days the thing still had some juice!
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
what profiles are you using ?
[Droid Eris Android Development] rick311:
screen off - 480 -192 @ 100%

charging - 710 - 480 @ 60%
[Droid Eris Android Development] Hungry Man:
You need to put a battery < % profile and I'd suggest a temperature profile.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Cheatman1:
cool to the guy who lasted 2days. now take that and multiple it by 2! ohhh yeahhh that's 4days. lol that's how long i lasted. woo hooo. check back a couple threads for screenshots.
[Droid Eris Android Development] rick311:
why's that? it seem to be running fine without them. what do you recommend?

is that with the collin tweak? were you using your phone at all? i thought 2 days with pretty heavy use was pretty impressive. :(
[Droid Eris Android Development] Hungry Man:
It'll run without them but it'll be clocking at 710max and 245min, when you could have your min down at 19mhz or your max at 748 or whatever.
[Droid Eris Android Development] rick311:
what do you use?
[Droid Eris Android Development] ctanner10126:
tried these settings and phone freezes when started now.. lol
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
check the op of this thread for some info.
[Droid Eris Android Development] rick311:
yea, i was running your profiles before. i was just wondering what he was running.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Rezanow:
Set it to the recommended profile in the OP. Everything seemed to run great until I decided to rawk some tunes at work. Setting the min to 19 caused all sorts of skipping. I had heard that might happen, and upped the min a bit. All is well now. Thank you for this!
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
if you guys want better performance on the low end

then change the last number in the batt tweak setting to 0-5 lower the better
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
yea for some reason some people get that
[Droid Eris Android Development] betbrett:
I don't see any place to ask technical questions so I'm putting it in the thread. Sorry if this is the wrong place.

When I flash this it says not authorized or not authenticated.

I am running kaosfroyo
[Droid Eris Android Development] betbrett:
After much searching and google and other stuff I finally got the answer.

Sorry to be such a noob and post what I'm sure you think is a ridiculous question on here.

Thanks for the app and your hard work, it is awesome
[Droid Eris Android Development] thewanton:
Alright, sweet. Thanks for the tips.
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
umm it just increases the memory limitations
[Droid Eris Android Development] Duffman3005:
Edit for drunkeness
[Droid Eris Android Development] lifyre:
He answered you in the post right before yours...
[Droid Eris Android Development] Duffman3005:
Ya I noticed after, a bad case of posting at the same time. I couldn't find a delete post button and I had been drinking at the time.
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
Too much duff I suppose
[Droid Eris Android Development] Duffman3005:
You know it OHHHH YAAAAA!

(I really want to import these suckers now)
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
im getting alot of confirms and great feed back on the cpu settings...so i thnk the project was a success

NEXT im tinkering with setcpu ADVANCED settings for more added benefits

here is a breif setting to tryout if anyone is interested in advance settings

if something looks wrong please feel free to correct me

Sampling rate i made it slower to 40000 i think adds stability from too much switching (the amount of time the cpu checks on its own state in milliseconds i think)

Up threshold i made 90 (when the cpu demand reaches 90 it will up clock to the next level until MAX) helps to keep the cpu on lower speeds and should not interfere with performance

give it a try feed back is more than welcomed

Thanks
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
UPDATE: great results and MORE good news

try these profiles

DEFAULT 122min--whatever max (screen ON cpu does not drop below 122mhz)

Sceen OFF 19min--245max (no lag just ran pandora and cardio trainer at the same time here no lag from sleep to wake either)
[Droid Eris Android Development] Seanydizzley:
Works like a charm! Been running these settings with no performance issues at all!

Unplugged it 9 hours ago, still at 74% with considerable use. These settings plus

Kaos Froyo V30 makes my Eris VERY bearable. Kudos!
[Droid Eris Android Development] doogald:
I've had the sampling rate at 200,000 for a long time, but I set the up threshold to 50% - if my CPU starts working I want it to step up.
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
Right a threshold of 50 adds performance

A higher threshold adds more battery life and vise versa
[Droid Eris Android Development] quic:
this is just a waste for me. I installed SetCPU and it automatically set my CPU frmo the second i opened the app to 19mhz and it won't let me do anything the phone just keeps hanging. So i restarted and tried to get in to change some settings real quick before this happened again and on restart it loads the app with 710 then within less than a second it goes to 19 again and the phone is stuck again. I didn't set it to load on boot or anything it just keeps doing this. I can't even unload the app now... Thanks for nothing...
[Droid Eris Android Development] grimjeeper:
Did you give it superuser permission?
[Droid Eris Android Development] roirraW "edor" ehT:
I had that problem with a particular ROM and SetCPU a long time ago, but I don't remember which ROM it was.
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
Sir you cannot blast my thread or method when you didnt even setup or run the suggested settings....that was a poor post...why even post at all you didnt even run it so you cant give any feed back....you are my first negative response in a bounty of positives

I know exactly why your phone is giving you trouble all you had to do was ask or PM me.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Duffman3005:
Note-Not blasting the method or OP here

There will be days when SetCPU will work fine when I go into profile settings and there are days when the second I go into profile section it will freeze and reboot. Odd I know, it's like it has it's own *ahem* menstration cycle lol.
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
hmmm lets see how i can help

do u have the latest superuser?

the latest setcpu?

and autokiller and the latest v. of kaos?
[Droid Eris Android Development] Duffman3005:
Yup, everything that came with V30, setcpu 2.02, the thing is this has happened before on previous versions/rom.

One thing I have noticed is that it works fine while plugged into the usb. Though the usb profile is clocked higher (768) compared to my normal profiles (748), very odd indeed...
[Droid Eris Android Development] jdog94:
unplugged phone at 7am and batt at 55% now with a decent bit of use today
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
go here and flash the latest super user and see if that helps

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=682828
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
great to hear dont forget to test out the newer settings also for better battery
[Droid Eris Android Development] Bimmer323:
Does anyone know what the idle speed is if you DON'T have SetCPU or OCWidget installed and tweeked? 710max to ????min.

I'm running KFCv30 with neither of the OC apps installed and I have no complaints with speed/battery/wake-ups........

I may install SetCPU again and test your settings, but I need to get some better usage stats on my current set up to compare. Can't just blindly jump in as there are a lot of variables in this testing.

Thanks
[Droid Eris Android Development] Ty07allstar:
DS36,

Have you tried messing with the powersave bias in the advanced options yet? I have been and it seems to improve battery life pretty well.
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
Yea but it murders performance
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
Most roms idle ay 245 MHz

Setcpu will tell you
[Droid Eris Android Development] Hungry Man:
Anyone having an issue with setcpu where it doesn't always go to your profiles? I have the priorities all straight. Whe I'm plugged in it's at my charging profile but when I unplug it doesn't go to my <100% battery one. Is this because it's still at 100?
[Droid Eris Android Development] Hungry Man:
>_> erm i think you made a typo
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
OOPPS stupid xda app

anyway check and see if you are runnig the latest superuser 3.3.4 or 3.4 something like that?
[Droid Eris Android Development] Hungry Man:
Ah yes, now that I've dropped down to 99% the settings kick in... any way to make it kick in right at 100? I suppose it's an easy fix =p I just put the same settings for both of them.
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
IMHO i think all those profiles are a waste imho of course

i just use

default

sleep

temp

and just added today batt <40 MAX 604MHZ
[Droid Eris Android Development] Hungry Man:
I have (In order of priority)

Temp

Screen Off

Charging/Full

Battery< 100%

More than that can get complicated and for me when I had multiple profiles (I had one for every 10-20% basically) it caused serious lag.
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
HMMM IMHO i think screen off should get the highest priority

then temp becacuse screen off cools the battery better than a temp setting

and it WILL get hot sometimes so why choke GPS Cardio trainer and Pandora at the same time

whats the point of charging/full ???? your cutting you performance its full on the charger let that sucker fly

and battery <100% hmm something to rethink

i set for full performance and battery savings at the same time

what you think enlighten me brotha :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] Hungry Man:
Well I prioritize the temperature because I don't want to hurt my phone =p really I suppose the two are interchangable but if my phone heats up it means I'm playing a game and I'll gladly stop for a minute to let it cool down.

As for charging/full the kernel only overclocks to 710 naturally so I'm bringing it up to 768 when I'm plugged in. I believe that's correct, right?

And battery under <100% is for the rest of the time that I'm not plugged in. Basically any time I'm unplugged and using my phone with the screen on the phone'll be at that priority. If I took that profile off it would be 245mhz min - 710max, giving me higher minimum and lower maximum =p that's no good for me.
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
currenly right now

default 19--786 or 787

sleep 19--480 needs multitasking when sleeping right and the highest priority and screen off cool the temp anyway

temp 122--528 just in case you need it warm awake and performance LIKE navigator or tethering

finally batt <40 122min---604

what you think hungry ?
[Droid Eris Android Development] jdog94:
i am running the latest setting

7am till now batt at 31% not sure if i am seeing a batt improvement but i did just flash the rom yesterday so im sure it will be better tomorrow
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
dont forget to wipe batt stats when flashing new roms
[Droid Eris Android Development] Hungry Man:
Looks good to me. I have the same temp and sleep settings.

My under 100% is 225-768 (I'm actually faster at 768)

My advanced settings: (This was my compromise between my old performance based settings and then I made a completely power saving one)

Sampling rate: 200000

Up threshold: 55%

Ignore Nice Load: 1 (yes)

Powersave bias: 50 (I found that when I was at 400 the performance loss was huge waking up. I didn't want to put it to 0 so I'm trying 50 out.)
[Droid Eris Android Development] Hungry Man:
I don't know how I feel about this "clear cache" thing. Cache is important to any computer... Clearing it once in a while is one thing, but it shouldn't be used too often.
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
Power save bias murders performance
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
Hmm I have it set to clear every 6hrs

Maybe ill turn it off for a while
[Droid Eris Android Development] Hungry Man:
Yeah how do you get it to do it automatically? I want to make sure mine doesn't. Honestly what I would suggest instead is that every time you install/ uninstall an application you reboot into recovery and wipe your dalvik.
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
yea i also do that too

i bought a cache cleaner app that does it for me its called cachemate in market

was cleanin cache until i blocked all my ads
[Droid Eris Android Development] Hungry Man:
I would suggest doing it once a day perhaps. Also I've uninstalled autotask killer =p I still have min at 19mhz with no lag on the up. I need to try calling myself to test it out really.
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
autokiller you mean right lots of people on the new update swear by it and so do i

you know the story of task killers right ??
[Droid Eris Android Development] Hungry Man:
Yes autokiller. I've tried it multiple times and I just haven't found it that amazing really. And yes I know about task killers =p

Just fyi what I've found is that a low power save bias actually goes a long way.

::

Let's say you're 768max and 122min on demand with a power save bias of zero.

You're actually not ever going to hit 122mhz just sitting there or at least not for a very logn time, you'll rest around 720mhz or 748mhz.

Increase power save bias to 40 and you'll be around 604mhz resting and maybe eventually you'll lower down to 122mhz.

I've found that 60 brings you down to 604mhz and then you hit 122mhz much more quickly.

Based on that power save bias of 60 will save you a ton of battery because you're resting at minimum much more often. The speed cost isn't really clear since I haven't gotten a call but with my settings I'm noticing very little to no lag just waking up normally.
[Droid Eris Android Development] eghill1125:
I have found a bit of a problem with both my wifes and my eris' with this. I have set them both for the setcpu in this thread.

19 min - 710 or 748 Main

19-480 Sleep

19-480 Temp at 43

I had my advanced settings at:

2000000

80

0

200

We are now finding that the phone wakes up just fine for calls, but notifications have a problem with a longer ring sound. Using the Android 2.2 Notification sounds like Speed ? and Moonbeam, they start and then stutter real bad coming out of sleep..

Any thoughts on what setting in here is causing this. Both doing it and both starting tonight after changing the settings. It has to be in the Advanced settings.
[Droid Eris Android Development] jdog94:
get rid of 200 in advanced make it 0 and see if that helps
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
switch your power saxe bias to 0
[Droid Eris Android Development] Hungry Man:
Change: 2000000 to 200000 (one less 0)

Change powersave bias:200 to 50
[Droid Eris Android Development] eghill1125:
Ok... I am going to try both ways and see if it helps.

200000

60

0

50

and

40000

55

0

0

I have seen variations of both of these here. Hopefully one of these makes the stutter go away on notifications...
[Droid Eris Android Development] Hungry Man:
I personally have

170000

55

1

90

I'm not feeling any lag.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Emunny:
I've done your set up an I passed 24 hours with one charge using my phone normally as in calls, text, web Facebook and than some. My phone is at 41 percent too great find my friend
[Droid Eris Android Development] jdog94:
there have been a couple set of setting posted which are you using
[Droid Eris Android Development] goldenstorm:
Trying it out

I have mine set this way since this morning. (below). I am now at 83% battery when normally I'd be at 30 or less having used it only to check updates, email and a couple of phone calls. It was 98% for the the better part of the morning.

19 min - 748 Main

19-480 Sleep

19-480 Temp at 50

I have my advanced settings at:

200000

80

0

0

I also have AK set to strict. I haven't cleared cache in a few days. And just learned from reading that I can clear or rather should clear the davlik cache every uninstall of an app, which I have only done when loading a new ROM. Oh and I am running Kaos' V30 which is the shiznit.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Hungry Man:
Well clearing the Dalvik cache after EVERY uninstall might not be super helpful but it can help your phone a bit speedwise especially after multiple uninstalls/installs.

I might suggest changing the 3rd value to a 1, ignore nice load. It can make your cpu ignore certain things so that it doesn't unnecesarily clock up.

I'm running CyanoTazz, my favorite rom.
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
try auto cache cleaner or cachemate in the market
[Droid Eris Android Development] MrObvious:
I see why you might want to go down to 19 MHz but come on that's a bit extreme. I have been running the default 245-700 whatever MHz and it's been good for me. xD
[Droid Eris Android Development] Hungry Man:
I mean, if you can do it there's no reason not to and 19mhz is really going to save you battery, compared to 122mhz, which is a large step between.
[Droid Eris Android Development] goldenstorm:
I have cachemate. Just haven't used it in a few days...

I'll try setting nice load to 1 after my next charge.

Thanks for the advice.

Edit: wiping davlik after every install did seem to be a bit extreme. Will do it after multiple uninstalls.
[Droid Eris Android Development] rigbyrobot:
I'm running the suggested settings with setcpu, I've got autokiller on strict, being a bit noobish I cleard my bat stats when my bat levels were around 70% while installing v30. Since then I've charged overnight cleared bat stats and run 2 full cycles, I'm avg +/- 13hrs, at what point should I start clearing off Widgets and start tinkering around with settings and not assume my bat stats haven't set. Also is a cashe cleaner a great advantage, what's the difference between autokiller and a cashe cleaner?
[Droid Eris Android Development] Hungry Man:
They're two different applications. Autokillers end tasks that have been stored in your RAM for a long time and a cache cleaner removes the prefetch cache that your ram uses to make opening apps faster. It's good to clear your cache once in a while to reset that prefetch, but not too often or it won't do its job.

First get your battery resynced properly before you try to adjust the battery.
[Droid Eris Android Development] rigbyrobot:
Thanx for the quick and informative reply. I charged my phone while it was off for around 3hrs, then while it was plugged in cleared my bat stats, let it run till it died, charged overnight, ran it till it shut down, then fully charged again, should my bat be synced now, or dose it take more cycles?
[Droid Eris Android Development] Hungry Man:
It should be fully synced after the first time... but if you notice that your battery life is still unusually short you may want to try again. I would also not flash any new ROMs without having 100% battery, but that's just a good habit regardless.
[Droid Eris Android Development] rigbyrobot:
Thanx for your help, ill try a resync
[Droid Eris Android Development] rick311:
i am now on day 2 with HEAVY use (LOTS of phone calls, few texts, app installs, setting tweaks etc.) and after 24 hours i am down to 50% battery life. after flashing, i charged it full and went into recovery mode to delete the battery statistics as well.
[Droid Eris Android Development] eghill1125:
Where did you settle in on your SetCPu settings Rick? I know before that you were experiencing battery drain. Did you use any advanced settings or just profiles?