yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gbenj:
Is the 8/1 leak the 2.2 OTA?

I think thats where I started noticing the issue. I might go back and take a look and then nandroid back to here just to see when I have some free time.

If you are on 2.2, how long does it take you to charge from 1% to 100%?

If you cant do that full charge time, how long does it take to charge 25%, how long is it from 50%-green LED?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] seanzer:
Yes its froyo.

It varies with usage but I can tell you last night I went from 1% to 100% from 11:15pm to 1:30am according to battery graph. So about 2.5 hrs..My phone was on but I went to sleep..
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gbenj:
So just to confirm, you're running the stock 8/1 leak, with which radio?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] CaptainTaco:
A) Someone mentioned testing "the power the phone is drawing when charging". Someone also mentioned this would be useless... While it wouldn't be entirely helpful, it would certainly wouldn't hurt, this would tell us how close to the 1 Amp the phone is actually drawing when using a wall charger, and confirm or deny whether it is properly using "quick charge" aka non-USB charging. If it is closer to the 500mah then we know this is a portion of the culprit. That being said, to test you can either plug it in to a device that measures output, such as certain APC units. Or you can use a multi-meter, break the +volts line of the USB cable, and complete the circuit through the multi-meter. Another option would be to measure the Watts using a multi-meter (don't need to break the +volts line) and do the down conversion Measured_Watts/5volts.

In other news. Part of the issue may be related to a failsafe built in to either the new kernel, the battery driver, or the proprietary files. This failsafe likely slows charging depending on the heat of the battery, however this may be dis-proven depending on the accuracy of some battery charge statics that were mentioned earlier.

Truly the aforementioned testing would further pinpoint the source of the issue. We can scour the kernel all we want, but we would be searching for something we aren't even sure of. If we know what exactly is causing the slower charging, finding the source of said problem in the code will be significantly easier.

Edit: Also, I don't believe in B)'s
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gbenj:
I just flashed to a nandroid of the 8/1 leak, and still would not charge at a good speed.

Went from 59% to 72 in half an hour, which is pretty consistent with the 25% per hour i was seeing on my current ROM, which is 3rd wave with the kings kernel.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] crump13:
I just came across this thread today and I have been experiencing the longer charging times since I rooted, updated ROM to SR 2.5.2 and updated radio to 2.05 this past weekend. Before altering my Inc it didn't take nearly as long to charge. For example, I plugged my Inc via wall charger to charge and it was at 75% when it started and the Juice plotter widget stated it would take 1hour to charge. I plugged it in at 12:40pm and I will know at 1:40pm if it finishes. The phone is one but the screen is off and I don't have a lot of stuff runing in the back ground (pop mail updates every 2 hours, weather every hour...). As an fyi, I have the 1750 Seidio battery.

Also, I did upgrade my kernel to Kingxkernel #3 today and I have updated my radio to 2.15 (unrEVOked forever) on Sunday but I did experience this extended charging issue since Saturday before the Kernel or Radio 2.15 update. I had hope the Kernel update would help.

I'm definitely interested in the fix for this. :-)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tylerwagler:
Is everyone seeing the same results with car chargers?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] TrailBlazer31:
I just drove home from work (20 min drive) and was plugged into the car charger. I charged 10 percent. Seems faster with the car charger.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] larsrya8:
I just got back from a 4 hour car trip whilst using my Incredible for navigation, while plugged into the Verizon car charger. When I left, I was at 66% or so. When I arrived, I was at 16%. I lost 50%. Yikes. Display was set to auto, but was at full brightness because it was daytime.

Before anyone asks, the phone was sitting in the cupholders under the dash, so no direct sunlight, and the A/C was on. I know the battery doesn't charge when it's hot. When I disconnected it, the phone wasn't any warmer than it usually is after heavy use indoors.

When driving 4 hours the other direction yesterday, at night (so the display brightness was lower) the battery level didn't change, so I was breaking even the whole way.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ghostrida:
I haven't really been following this thread, but have you guys had a read through this stuff

drivers/power/ds2784_battery.c

http://pastebin.com/BcVuZKUu

bravo: charge battery to 100%

http://github.com/xdabravoteam/cm-kernel/commit/ffb0ef63ab15c0a03df6ab25dd7325d06f199e79#diff-0
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gbenj:
Good stuff...

Any idea how we could go about seeing how the phone acts in certain situations?

I see two things of note.

1) Theres two charge modes, slow charge, fast charge. Slow charge is for USB, Fast charge applies when AC is connected.

By looking at "about phone" I can see the phone is at least reporting that its connected to AC correctly.

2) The other thing I note is that there is at least a definition that says it is there to disable fast charge mode when "TEMP_WARM".

I wonder if this is or maybe something similar is causing the phone to disable Charge_Fast either because of an incorrect reading, or because of some other factor we are unaware of.

If there really is no difference in the two kernels, maybe something is causing a parameter (temperature for example) to be reported incorrectly, triggering a drop down to Charge_Slow mode.

I wonder if this could even be something as stupid as a incorrect calculation or definition causing the phone to think its hotter than it is.

Is anyone able read through there and discern the actual temperatures that our phones "click over" to Charge_Slow that would be tremendous.

I don't have the background or knowhow to believe I'd to it correctly.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] VCURamEngineer:
If you're going to start comparing car chargers, I'd make sure that everyone is using car chargers that provide the same amount of current. They vary widely if people are using "any old micro-usb charger". The same could be true for wall chargers. The maximum current output is usually printed somewhere on the charger.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gbenj:
Interested to see what effect the latest leak and upcoming OTA have on this.

As soon as its packaged to a ROM update I'll flash it and see what it does.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] satchdaddy:
That is a VERY good point.

Oddly enough; I just looked at my phone's battery charging and it says I'm charging via USB when in reality I'm charging via AC using my old LG Dare USB wall wart.

So this looks like you might have hit the head right on the nail. ;)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gbenj:
Bad news...

Preliminary testing on the Deodexed ROM created from the latest leaked OTA seems like it's still charging very slowly...

57%-62% in first 15 min. Then 62%-72% in the next 25. Maybe a little quicker now that I look at the fact that it was 25% in 40 min...

Hopefully the last 28% are nice and speedy and I'll come back and edit this.

This is the first cycle so my readings could be off, and will level off to the fast charging in a few cylces.

Again, if thats the case, I'll take back what I said.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] TrailBlazer31:
k so whats the total time to 100?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gbenj:
Dunno, just got to 100% with a bump charge, which surprisingly took only about 5 or 10 minutes. (maybe this is fixed?) Cleared batttery stats, gonna run down a little tonight and see how quickly it goes now. Probably won't get a chance to do a 1%-100% test until Sunday night.

Maybe tomorrow afternoon depending on how the battery does during the day.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jasonb1985:
i ran my phone down to 8%, it's connected to the charger that came with the phone right now. i'll let everybody know how long it takes to get to fully charged.

running todays leak by the way.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gbenj:
I think its also worthwhile to check in every hour on the hour to see what its at.

Mine happens to do about 25% per hour which adds up to approx 4 hour charge time from 1-100%.

Just so we know, what battery are you using?

and assuming you flashed one of the new ROMS from today?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jasonb1985:
i am running todays rom. the deodexed one. i have the 1500mah oem htc battery, the one from the TP2.

so far after 20 minutes it's up only 7%.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gbenj:
eh...not a promising start. I keep hoping for something to magically click, but doesnt seem like its in the cards.

I wonder why others arent paying attention to this, maybe we'll see an influx once the actual OTA gets launched, assuming this problem makes its way over there.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gbenj:
As of now, Im on the doedexed stock leak of a few days ago. No custom kernel (for now) and I'm not using a "Screen Off" profile or anything in setcpu.

I just plugged it in, at 0, phone shut off automatically, booted up and it was at 3%. Left it alone at 5% at 6:33, its now 7:03 and its at 37%!

By my count, thats 32% in 30 min, on pace for 1.5 hours full charge. Unfortunately I won't be sure of the full charge time for this cycle.

Hopefully Sunday night i'll get to do that and report back. But after weeks of agony, maybe (hopefully) we're on the right track.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] earthtodigi:
You charged that fast on the 8/26 leak with the .32 stock kernel? What's your radio and hboot? Weve got to figure this out.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] catmandu:
Running into an odd battery situation here, not sure if i'm the only one. I charged by battery for about an hour(started at 18%) and when I looked at it, it said 45%. I did a quick reboot of my phone and when it came back on was at 55%. So i let it charge again for an hour and when I came back, phone said 87%. Again, restarted phone and when it came back up, I was at 100%.

Running SR2.5.2 vanilla, 2.15 radio, kingkernel BFS#1.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] m52power:
Guys just a heads up but lithium batterys have a unique way of charging. As they get closer to their peak voltage of 4.2v the charger amperage is lessened. This is done to safely and accurately charge to 4.2v.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] earthtodigi:
Okay, now we are on to something, I just did the same exact thing, let my phone die all the way, booted up and plugged it in, but was just a little too late, so it turned itself off again. I left the cord plugged in, turned it back on and and booted up at 6%, and at this point it started charging at basically 1% per minute, just like old times. I wanted to see if it was a fluke or for real, so I let it charge up to 44% and unplugged it, it held the charge for quite awhile which was good, I let it drop back to 30% and plugged it back in, and it started charging SLOW again. This time it gained 3% in about 15 minutes :(

But... leaving the phone plugged in, I turned it off, and turned it back on, and now its back to fast charging again! It's gained 10% in 11 minutes so far. I don't know what the issue could be here, but like I said, we are definitely getting warmer.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] texanaustinite:
Are these battery issues, slow charge and need to "bump"charge, only on the Inc.?

I never had an issue with the Eris.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gbenj:
Now thats weird...mine was plugged in, and I saw the light go green before 830 last night, which was under 2 hours from dead to green.

Its been plugged in, and not been used till tonight.

Installed about 18 updates...and it dropped the usual 10%, so we'll see where it goes from here the rest of the night. and how the charging does afterwards.

It should be noted, I'm using the stock kernel, and perflock was not disabled with setCPU. over the next few days, i'm going to try it with it on, and off and see if that affects it in any way.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gbenj:
Well, they slow charge issue only started to show up in android 2.2, which I'm assuming you don't have on your eris.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] texanaustinite:
The Eris I had, was rooted and ran kaosfroyo (2.2). Always charged fast never needed a "bump" charge.

I read that the EVO, Desire and a few other HTC phones also need to "bump" charge. Just wondering why I never needed to on the Eris.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] crackers8199:
Mine charged from 13 to 100 in around an hour and 20 minutes last night...I can't remember if I had it plugged in when I turned it on though. I'm using king's #2 for now...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gbenj:
I think something here might be the key.

I plugged mine in last night, it was at 75%, was turned on, and it charged slow to 100, no big deal starting at that level anyway.

Tonight I plan on running it down to 1% if I can, then plugging it in and seeing where it goes in 30 min. If its slow, i'll try and run it down to 1% again, turn it off, pug it in and see what happens. Hopefully I'll get a useful result.

I did load kings #1 BFS kernel this morning, which might interfere with the validity of the results.

If I dont get what I'm looking for, I'll nandroid back to what I had this morning, before I flashed it, and try the same things again tomorrow night on the stock kernel.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gbenj:
Been reading through this a little, but just wondering. Does anyone know where it came from or a little info about what it is?

Hopefully the person who posted it can shed some light on what it actually is. I have an idea of what could be going on here, but I dont know that I'm correct in my interpretation of what this is.

If someone could weigh in with some info I'd rally appreciate it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gmichaelow:
I'm now getting just over 1% / min with kingklick's BFS #1.

The trick is to have the power in as the phone is booting. eg, power phone off, plug it in, power on. Or, plug in, reboot.

I started from 52%, so it's nothing to do with draining the battery all the way down.

Also, if you unplug and then replug, it switches back to slow charging again.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gbenj:
This is very interesting. I will try and see if its capable of being replicated tonight when I charge my phone.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] crackers8199:
Ok, this is weird...I was trying to duplicate this. So, I plugged in at 56%. Took 35 minutes to get to 63%...so, slow charging.

Tried reboot, to see if it would switch to fast charging. It hasn't, I've only gone up 2% in 11 minutes. However, what is interesting is that I went from 63% when I pressed reboot (in quickboot), to 83% when battery indicator came back up after reboot.

This is using a crappy eBay 1500 battery and not OEM 1500, but I found it odd nonetheless...

Edit: switching back to stock battery seems to show that I do get a fast charge when I have it plugged in (and charge led on) before turning it on. Pulling and plugging does make it go to slow charge. However, reboot doesn't seem to make it go back to fast, at least not the reboot from quickboot...not for me anyway.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] godsmacked4653:
I'm using Kingklick's #2 kernel and it seems to have fixed all of these problems. It holds a 100% charge, charges pretty quickly, and hasn't affected performance at all. Anyone else using one of these kernels?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gbenj:
I think we're definitely on to something here.

Unfortunately I wasnt able to replicate the quick charge last night.

I did flash Kings #1 BFS kernel so that might have clouded my results.

Not sure what to do now, how to continue testing from here.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gbenj:
So I sent Kingklick the code that someone helpfully posted in this thread, and he says his latest kernel includes "[His] hacks to enable 'fast battery charging' *LET ME KNOW HOW IT WORKS OUT*"

Heres the link to the kernel thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=760050

I'm nandroiding and flashing now, will see how it does and report back.

Big thanks to Kingklick for putting some work into this regardless of how it turns out.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] phamngochieu:
Hi guy !!!

do you have any games support G-sensor , share it to me, thank you very much:D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Zeppelin95:
Here is the great one: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=496186
[Nexus One General] tolis626:
Hey guys,what's up?

Yesterday,while I was playing Super KO boxing 2 an idea came to me.Is there any PSP emulators for Android?The PSP is a mobile device itself and I think it won't be too much for our phones!
[Nexus One General] smashpunks:
well, 2 things. The n1s poor multitouch ruins games for me on my n1.. 2, the GPU isnt that great in it and I dont know if psp games would do well on it, However if you have Hummingbird processor I bet we could make this happen, as of now its got the best GPU out and one time the compared a PSP to a Iphone power wise and the iphone won, The hummingbird is way better than that so Im assuming things would work fine... But as far as the Snapdragon processor Im not sure..
[Nexus One General] norazi:
Yea.. I could see it happen on android on other devices but not the nexus1 due to the bad touchscreen and relatively slower cpu/gpu. Perhaps if there was a bluetooth driver for the ps3 dualshock controller you could use that but I don’t think the snapdragon/adreno200 has the oomph to render psp titles. The gpu in particular on the nexus lags far behind the one in the iphone4, samsung galxay s, and even the droid
[Nexus One General] Blueman101:
yeah, sadly the current snapdragons are kinda crappy vs the other 1ghz processors. Hopefully the newer ones to come out later this year will improve the tech (as they said t would)
[Nexus One General] tolis626:
Well,I think it can handle some titles as not all of them have great graphics,but the screen is an issue whatsoever...I think there was a way to connect the Dualshock 3/Sixaxis to the HD2 but dunno if such a thing is available for android.

But wait a sec,what is it that you said Blueman101?They will improve the current Snapdragons?Or do you mean the QSD8672 with dual-core processor etc?
[Nexus One General] Zephyron:
here u can wait for this if it does happen =)

http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/11/exclusive-sony-ericsson-to-introduce-android-3-0-gaming-platfor/
[Nexus One General] Blueman101:
the current snapdragon is using an outdated gpu, so they have said that they will no longer do that and all snapdragons will now be using up to date gpu's.
[Nexus One General] tolis626:
Well,if that means that the Desire HD will not carry the Adreno 200 of the current snapdragon devices I will be a happier person! :)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] idasfa38:
thinking about rooting with unrevoked but apparently it doesn't unlock nand so how do i back up the whole system?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] foxmeister:
Use the custom recovery image that UnrEVOked will flash onto you phone.

Regards,

Dave
[EVO 4G Accessories] AcIdC0R3:
I don't take credit for the video but I found THIS low profile car mount that's made for the iPhone and works just as well for the EVO. HERE it is at Amazon.
[EVO 4G Accessories] SilverStone641:
i really like this! it looks classy. plus the phone seems more secure in the cradle then in some of the other car-mount solutions i've seen. thanks for pointing this out!
[EVO 4G Accessories] AcIdC0R3:
I'm going to pick one up on payday and I'll see how good it is and give a report back.
[EVO 4G Accessories] uniquenameevo:
I've had that one for a while. Very nice.

My only complaint is that in portrait mode I have knocked the phone out of it a couple times. It's plenty solid, it's just not that hard to flip the phone out of it.
[EVO 4G Accessories] ShadoX:
Do you guys think there's any chance an Evo with the Seidio Innocase Active would fit in this?
[EVO 4G Accessories] AcIdC0R3:
The video has a quote that says it should work with thinner cases but not thick ones. I personally have a carbon fiber skin on mine and I'm pretty sure it will work as the guy in the video, his phone is naked. I don't know what differentiates a thick from a thin case but you could always order it and if it doesn't fit you could just say it doesn't fit and return it, but then you would have to eat the shipping cost. Your guess is as good as mine. Maybe someone will come on here that has a thick case and give his thoughts on the matter. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful.

Cheers...

EDIT: There is a comment below the video that say:
[EVO 4G Accessories] galt:
Wow, finally installed this in my wife's Mazda 3 (vent mount) and it just rocks. Super sturdy in either portrait or landscape, easy to snap the EVO in and out. Thanks a bunch to the OP for the tip. Hard to beat this one for the quality, ease of use, and price.
[EVO 4G Accessories] reverendrhino:
I love this car mount, thanks for the tip.
[EVO 4G Accessories] AcIdC0R3:
Good to know guys. Now I'm going to order one. Thanks

Sent from my EVIL EVO using the XDA app.
[EVO 4G Accessories] scl23enn4m3:
$11.99 AR now at buy.com
[EVO 4G Accessories] AcIdC0R3:
Nice find. :) Thanks.
[EVO 4G Accessories] joebags:
just ordered mine off Buy.com can't wait to get it.

main reason i want one is because it's a pain in the ass to hear my ringtone in a jeep with the top and doors off. it would be nice to see a call come in while driving.
[EVO 4G Accessories] omnirage:
Terax XWAY. Strong enough magnet to hold into the phone even with the ridiculous spension setup I have in my Integra. I love using it, and it's completely portable, like throw it in your pocket, take 5sec to put in in another car, and go.

Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/TETRAX-XWAY-X-W...785?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e5e334759
[EVO 4G Accessories] joebags:
Nice omni, i might order this as well. i really like how well that seems to work. although it's double the price i just paid for the Kensington mentioned my the OP. we'll see how well the kensington holds up first.
[EVO 4G Accessories] AcIdC0R3:
Only vent mountable. There seems to be no goose neck for the windshield. This would not serve my purpose. Plus it seems a little bulky compared to the Kingston. It is also more expensive than the Kingston. No thanks... I'll stick with the Kingston.
[EVO 4G Accessories] scl23enn4m3:
And it would mess with the compass apps and we'd have to stick something on the Evo :(
[EVO 4G Accessories] ultima232:
Just thought I'd chime in and report how it works with the Seidio Innocase Surface II.

The phone with case on fits fine. The issue is because of the added 2-3 mm of thickness and the smooth feel of the Innocase, it makes it infinitely easier for the phone to slip out of the mount. I haven't had it fall out on me since I always keep my phone in the landscape position while in my car but it will slip if you drive over bumps while its in portrait.

I'm looking into getting some kind of rubber tape so I can make the grip the mount has on the phone a bit more tacky.
[EVO 4G Accessories] AcIdC0R3:
I finally ordered this mount and when I get it I'll see about doing a small video review so as to let everyone know what it's like. It's made for the iPhone and wouldn't you know it, EVO is stealin' the show once again. LOL Man I like my EVO. It's such a kick ass phone. Now with an awesome low profile car mount I can finally use it with Google Navigation point-to-point and not have to keep looking down at it while it's laying on the passenger seat. :)

Cheers...
[EVO 4G Accessories] AcIdC0R3:
Thanks for the find. I used Buy.com to purchase it. $12 is a steal.

Cheers...