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[Droid Incredible Android Development] seanzer:
Haven't had any of these issues.. but you mentioned heat.. are you overclocking?

When the battery overheats it will stop charging until it cools down. If you're overclocking, this heat gets pretty intense..
[Droid Incredible Android Development] vbhines:
Not to state the obvious, but you did reflash the kernel *after* the reinstall of SR, right?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] DroidHam:
I have no overclocking, and ya i flashed the kernel after i reinstalled. Are there any tools to help monitor heat etc so I can see what could be causing this? Im worried i damaged my battery somehow
[Droid Incredible Android Development] seanzer:
I've heard of people having issues with sync loops.. make sure to check you batt usage, if android system is more than 30%.. you may have an issue with background sync.

I'm using stock sense Rom now, but I had an issue on another Rom where the calendar sync would never stop.. drained my battery
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bhazard451:
Bring on #3 and #1 AOSP!!!!!!! I don't think anyone else is actively working on battery life/overclock Incredible kernels like you are. Everything is much appreciated.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kingklick:
:)

Working on a new one
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ad1980:
Wow. I'm using bfs2 along with skyraider 3 vanilla and the speed and response of my phone is simply amazing. You're doing the lords work. :D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Doctor Butts:
You say it's fast? I might give it a try. Can I just install the kernel without using something like say cpu to get the benefits?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] dustbinge:
You can definitely run the most recent King kernels without using SetCPU but as per the OP, the default governor on both is set to Conservative. You'll need to change that to Interactive or On Demand (or Performance if you are just doing benchmarks) in order to truly fly. :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] loonix:
Thanks a lot for the kernels kingklick.

Finally got around to upgrading to Froyo today (Virtuous 2.5), install BFS #2 and SetCPU ondemand. Slightly overclocked to 1.15. Seems nice so far :)

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Grr not allowed to post links even though I have been a member here for quite some time. Hope the mods can change the setting to accommodate "Join Date" and not just number of posts. System still thinks I am a "new user".

Anyways got a 1579 first try so I am sure this can and will go up as I learn how to tweak this more.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] samoid:
Has anyone had success with this on CM 6.0.2?

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[Droid Incredible Android Development] danman7:
I'm pretty sure (98%?) that the OP has stated at some juncture that these kernels will NOT work on CM, only on a Sense-based ROM.

If that's not the case, I'm sure someone will correct me.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] zeke1988:
does faster charging hurt my battery?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] JoeyBert:
is it preferred to install a new kernel at the end of battery life or after a full charge?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] x1208x:
I'm sorry but I just read through TONS of the oldest pages and newest pages and didn't see it anywhere...

but whats the difference between BFS and the CFS kernal in lame-man's terms?

I did read the change log and don't understand 90% of it. lol
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SLOflatlander:
its just differences in the schedulers. read the wiki page on it, theres a lot to it. there isnt really a simple "lay mans terms" definition for it
[Droid Incredible Android Development] seanzer:
Posted this a few pages back..

I forgot to mention that I prefer BFS, it gives me a higher quadrant score..
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kingklick:
lol WOW

I just found a major bug that was hindering this from working to its full potention

that is good news
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kingklick:
compiling now :D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] texanaustinite:
Waiting patiently....
[Droid Incredible Android Development] :
Hey king, did you use a different clock speed, or did you stay with 1.113

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[Droid Incredible Android Development] Nomsy79:
Yayy!!!! Will be keeping a close watch on this one.

Thanks for all the hard work.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] starcms:
5V is 5V, but you are neglecting amps. A AC/DC wall charger can put out many more amps than a little USB port, and therefore, charge the battery much faster.

I too am experiencing the slow charge over wall current ever since the new kernel included with 2.2.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Reddog80p:
I've read about this battery charge problem in the N1 forum also from leaked froyo users.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] adrynalyne:
Why would N1 users be using leaked Froyo?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] LTL11:
Kernal number 2 has me excited in my special place.

Cannot wait
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kingklick:
Kernel #2 is live! :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] :
To kingklick, is the kernel at a higher clock speed?

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[Droid Incredible Android Development] goldalex98:
Just installed it, will let you know how it goes. Version 1 was very stable for me. Lets see how this one does...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] IncredibleDoes:
are these kernels only for sense>?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] samoid:
Flashed kernel 1 this morning. Had no problems. Just flashed kernel 2. Seems stable so far.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hazard666:
If we already have Kernel #1, could we simply flash #2 over it?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] s197:
Booted up fine, Set CPU overclocked, governor on conservative seems to be working.

Phone rebooted when I opened quadrant however. Going to re-install and see what happens.

Edit: Reinstalling quadrant worked. Both quadrant and linpack scores look about right. Hope this one helps with the batt juice!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gmichaelow:
Yes, the kernels replace each other.

@IncredibleDoes. Yes, only for ROMs with Sense Framework. Big fan of your ROM btw, but I really want HAVS xD
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kingklick:
as of now, yes :(
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kingklick:
read the changelogs, yes :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Reddog80p:
Quadrant is running good for me. No reboot issues. OC'd to max quadrant 1499 running skyraider 2.5.2.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jermaine151:
Great answer.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] M4gicM@:
BFS #2 issue

After using BFS for 3days it started to lock up and studder. I noticed that set CPU would get locked at max frequency so flipping from interactive to conservative seemed to snap setcpu right again and then it would scale back. I also noticed that after power off's or resets my on time never reset.

Well I reflashed an old nandroid from before and everything was good for three more days... until today. I am getting the same issues as before! I am switching back to BFS #1 and will hopefully have more luck. Anyone else having issues with BFS #2?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] magicmycote:
Do these kernels have CIFS support? Preferably as modules..?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] x1208x:
Arg. BFS#2 Not playing well with Virtuous rom 2.5 :/ phone locks up after a 1 minute of being booted.

Edit CFS#3 not working either with Virtuous rom. random reboots as soon as it boots.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Jbarrs12:
My phone freezes up or reboots when I set it to performance. I have the BFS #2 kernel. Am I doing something wrong?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gmichaelow:
Lower your max clock speed. Drop one step at a time until it's stable. The reboots happen because not every CPU can reach such high speeds.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] trimax84:
BFS #2 running well on Virtuous 2.4. No issues. I haven't noticed the battery lasting longer, but it certainly isn't any worse. Not overclocked and SetPCU on interactive. The battery definitely charges a lot quicker now!

Thanks :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Colomonster:
I have been running bfs 2 on both 2.3 and 2.5 for a while now and only time I ran into problems with boot looping was when I set setup to 1.19 min and 1.19 max lol i was getting a full day of heavy use out of my batt, I uninstalled setcpu 2 days ago and just let it work its magic and I have used my phone heavy both days and put it on the charger with 62+% after 15 hrs of use both days... I get about 1 % every 2 mins of use...

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[Droid Incredible Android Development] Berzerker7:
Dunno if this has been posted already, but for those of your complaining about slow battery charging, read this:

http://androidforums.com/htc-incred...-me-slow-charging-froyo-designed-purpose.html
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SimonTuffGuy:
Great kernel! Thanks.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayhammy:
Now I know that it clearly states that these kernels are for Sense ROMs, but I've noticed in the Skyraider Vanilla 3.0 threads that several people have installed BFS kernels on their Vanilla ROM.

Can anyone clarify this?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] seanzer:
Skyraider vanilla is desenseitized, but it is still based off of an official sense release..

And aosp Rom will not work, such as incredible does and cyanogen..
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Doctor Butts:
Alright I threw bfs 2 on with my 2150 battery a day or two ago on SkyRaider Vanilla 3.0 RC2. Wiped the battery stats. Didn't seem to get the quick charging benefit. Now, thanks to reading more of this thread, I went into recovery and wiped battery stats again AND wiped the dalvik cache. My charge went from 69% to 73%. I did NOT wipe my whole darn image/rom like another poster did.

Phone is currently on but attached to a usb power adaptor. I do not have setcpu installed, so I'm running the default speeds that bfs 2 comes with.

Again, I have a 2150 HTC battery. It seems to be gaining 1% every 5-10 minutes. This is loads better than on the stock kernel. My battery has not gotten warm yet, either.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Hand76:
Your charge went up because you restarted your phone ^^^ mine does that too. But will quickly drop down after that.

And 1% charge every 5-10 minutes is not good and not any better than stock.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kriskmk:
For me BFS1 seems to be working better than BFS2...with regards to battery charge longevity.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] WingHater:
So it looks like everyone is using KingKlicks kernels now instead of Hydras since the last post on Hydras thread was Aug 24. Seems like with KK kernels there is too much discrepancy with what kernels work and what ones don't. Everyone seems to have mixed results with them. Are people using KK kernels because it says in the thread title superior battery life? Has anyone honestly noticed superior battery life? I find Hydras SSUV is the smoothest kernel I've used and have never had a lock up, freeze, or any heat coming from the battery. Also it seems like everytime I load up one of KK kernels and use set cpu my phone immediately becomes laggy, no matter what setting I'm using on set cpu. It may work for a little while but over time it always starts to lag, this is one reason I like Hydras kernels better because you don't have to use set cpu to take full advantage. Anyone else notice the lag associated with using setcpu? And does anyone know if Hydra and KK have any new kernels coming out?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SLOflatlander:
the lag your speaking of is probably just a result of the different cpu governer. that is one of the reason kk gets better battery life. so its a trade off, a bit of startup lag, but better battery life. you could always switch back to ondemand though using set cpu and it should be the same
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mikesincredible:
I've tried every hydra kernel out and theyve all made my phone boot loop and freeze, I couldn't even run the phone at 1.13, but with kings, I haven't rebooted since, and I'm constantly running at 1.13..battery is good too with the help of set cpu, on stock battery I would get almost 2 days on full charge..I purchased the extended battery now I'm at like 3 close to 4 days
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Panda Fuzz:
Think there's any chance of seeing this kernel for cyanogen rom?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bhazard451:
King is looking into it. He developed one for the EVO, so I'm hoping he comes out with one for us inc users.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Colomonster:
King is working on a new kernel as we speak i dunno what for, I deleted setcpu and noticed a massive jump in battery life I think 1ghz is plenty fast for a cell phone i did clear my batt statt and delvic cache before installing and un installing set CPU I ran at 1.13 for a few days on bfs 2 with no problems and significant battery life so far without set CPU and heavy use, I am down to 50 percent after 15 hours... compared to 10% after 8 hrs totally stock... I am using virtuous 2.5 and bfs 2 with no setcpu and rEVOlution theme.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] zeke1988:
with hydras kernel my phone reboot about 6 times per week. with King's i hardly seeing my phone reboot. i think my phone dont like hydras :(. im not butt kissing or anything.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jlss:
May as throw in my observations too. I haven't met a better kernel than king's latest BFS. In fact, with each kernel I see better performance and better battery life. I posted a few days ago something like 20 hr uptime, 12 hours awake time, 78% remaining. I use SetCPU largely for the profiles. Sleep is at 245/245, as is charging (don't really need to do much when I'm sleeping.) Base setup in SetCPU is 1.13/245, just a slight overclock. I'm not stable at 1.15+ and the phone doesn't *need* to be oc'd that much. Yeah Quadrant scores in the 1600s are fine, but I'll take 1400s and a battery that lasts a long day any day of the week.

I was using the hydra kernels. They started the show in that arena and we all owe them recognition, but king's are just superior (for me; mileage may vary).
[Droid Incredible Android Development] oldman_58:
To keep it short, yes I have much better battery performance on King Kernels, after a battery wipe and and allowing the phone to run until it shutdown then charging up with power off then a bump charge I did this like 4-5 times I am now seeing better battery life statistics.

It is not an instant change just to load a kernel or a ROM and expect your battery to magically last several hours longer. The longer you run the phone let completely discharge then bump charge, battery stats will become more accurate. It you wipe and look 2 hours later and expected a miracle then wipe Battery stats again because you did not get the results you expected you will likely never be happy with the results.

Be patient any statistics reports becomes far more accurate after longer periods of times and far more data samples are taken and analyzed.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Nomsy79:
+1 on Oldman's post and Jliss.

At first I noticed a minor increase in life but I just stuck with it. I would let the battery drain all the way down until it would shut the phone off. Bump charge and after a few days of doing this, I really noticed a major change in the battery. I also have to agree with Jliss...I was overclocked to 1.15 and decided to back down to 1.13 and noticed even more battery life. I'm using a few profiles and have my main profile set to interactive.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] zeke1988:
thats hard to believe.........
[Droid Incredible Android Development] seanzer:
I think he has a larger battery..
[Droid Incredible Android Development] zeke1988:
im using a 2150 battery, with normal use (call, text, web), my battery down to ~50% within 9hrs.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jlss:
Search back in the thread for my posts.

I'm coming off a bump charge soon and will repost additional screencaps tomorrow. Have a good day y'all.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Div033:
Even of you're on the 3500 seidio battery, I don't see how you could achieve ~2 days of AWAKE battery life. Thats just insane. Don't even want to think about the theoretical standby time.

Capacity wise, its 62.7% larger than my 2150. I don't know if capacity directly translates to battery life, but when I upgraded from my stock 1300 to 2150 (a 60% increase) my awake battery life went from 5-6 hours to 9-10 hours (a 60% increase). Going off this trend, if I were to obtain a seidio 3500, I would guess my awake time total to be around 16 hours.

So... what are you doing differently to get 3x as much awake battery life as us? That's a massive difference. I don't overclock and am very frugal with my power options. The only way I could think of lasting that long (even with 3500) is keeping screen dimmed to 0%, keeping everything off in airplane mode, and setting my primary profile to 245MHz Max and powersave governer.

Not trying to be an ass or whatever just slightly confused by a bunch of the outlandish battery claims made on these boards, extended battery or not :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jlss:
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[Droid Incredible Android Development] jlss:
Please see my SetCPU settings above. I did not claim ~2 days of awake time; I experienced 12 hrs with the results in my quoted post here. And yes, I use Seidio's 3500mAh.

As for settings, I have autodim off and cranked down to ~40%. 10 min POP mail polling with K9; Exch updates as mail hits my server. GMail does its own syncing. WeatherBug Elite checking every 2 hrs (if I need weather in between I refresh - rarely. TweetDeck updating every 9 minutes with no alert. GPS always off. VZW location services always on. WiFi only on when connected to a home or office WLANs. Off otherwise. Endgadget widget updating every 20 min. No other widgets updating on home screens. Screen to sleep @ 30 secs. Gross avg daily incoming mail (M-F) ~70. Gross outgoing avg mail (M-F) ~25. Sa-Su- ~15/~10. Avg daily voice calls ~60 min. Toss in anywhere from 3-25 txts too, depending on client needs.

I've found that a lot of folks don't bother checking account sync in settings and, when they do so, are surprised to see that News, Weather and Stocks are all updating. If you haven't checked that it's a good place to start.

To me this isn't about who has the best battery stats. I simply shared my experiences relative to king's kernels. If some elect to find my experience to be "highly doubtful" I won't lose any sleep. And hopefully some of the settings I I've mentioned will help someone. Beyond that I feel no compelling need to defend my cell phone battery's performance on an internet forum. ;)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Div033:
I know you never said 2 days, but you did say after 12 hours awake time you had 78% left. 22% in 12 hours at that rate would equate to 2 days at 0% unless the discharge rate was crazy wrong or I misinterpretted something here...

Eh whatever my settings aren't too different from yours maybe you just got an uber version of the 3500 battery idk lol

At any rate I'm eager to try the next kernal in the series. More battery life is always good :]
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jlss:
Agree! More is always better. I hadn't carried that discharge rate out linearly, because by the 48 hour point my internal would be dead too :P All I can figure is that we're just seeing the impact of mass manufacturing, which I've mentioned in this thread before regarding overclocking. There are those who can be solid at 1.19. Some, like me, bump up to 1.152 just for a nice big Quadrant score. I'm not stable at all above 1.13. And 998 is pretty darn fast in any event, so SetCPU's a great tool not just to post impressive Quadrant scores but to manage my phone in its real life environment (where Quadrant means nothing; stability and endurance mean everything). Anyway my point is that mass manufacturing tolerances provide some with DINCs that can max out on clock speed while others can't. My assumption would be that there's no reason the same wouldn't hold true for two DINCs with the same battery, same set-up, and same usage (each ending the day with different discharge rates). Best I can come up with

:D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] KGBxxx:
That's a pretty solid assumption.

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[Droid Incredible Android Development] bast525:
PLEASE CAN WE HAVE A VERSION OF THE KERNEL THAT DOESN'T USE CONSERVATIVE AS THE DEFAULT POWER SCHEME?

The BFS 2 kernel is awesome except for this one aspect. If I run the kernel without setcpu, I get a lot of sputtering and choppiness especially after just waking the phone or just moving around the home screen. If I install setcpu and change the power scheme to interactive or on demand, the phone returns to running super smooth. Problem is, I too notice that setcpu seems to use a lot of battery and also I have issues where sometimes waking the phone, it is very unresponsive like its stuck at 245 mhz, then it I launch setcpu it immediately goes back to normal.... so setcpu seems to be a bit buggy to me, I'd rather run without it, but the kernel is soooo much better running in interactive or on demand modes!

Is it hard to open a kernel and change the default power control scheme?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Kauffman_c:
If you have speed issues on start up, revise your screen off profile and bump the max up to 450 or so. It will help with your response time in switching to your current profile.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bast525:
I completely did away with profiles, still had issues. Uninstalled the app completely, reinstalled and did not set up any profiles. Just changed the power management from conservative to interactive. Usually on wake the phone is fine, but every few wakes it will chug really badly, and the only fix is to open setcpu, then it's fine.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Kauffman_c:
I'm confused...if everything functions well with setcpu running, why not just run it, and keep the stock cpu settings? If you use the screen off profile, the battery drain you are seeing should improve dramatically.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] seanzer:
I noticed this lag but thought it was caused by apps being killed when my screen was off. I fixed it by using a lower profile in autokiller so that apps don't get killed as frequently. Lag seems to have gone away. Also, I don't use atk or any of those apps..

I only have the main profile in setcpu set to 1.13 max, interactive governor. I don't think the profiles help that much..
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ToyTank:
I almost went Seidio. Then I saw someone over in accessories subforum posted a link with battery testing from different sources

here

Looks like htc oem 2150 or 1500 is the way to go.

Whoever posted the above site, sorry I did not give you proper credit, I could not find that post again.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] upther:
Here's some more testing that Dustin over at AndroidForums did.