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[Galaxy S I9000 General] hol17:
You sure we bought the same phone?

My GPS locks on after ~20 seconds and then there is no problems after that. I have not experienced one freeze (including this 'Freezes when signal is weak' -- which I think is absolute bull since my girlfriend's room is in the basement and I do not get a signal down there yet my phone performs perfectly fine), build quality is fine -- it's more durable than you think, and I haven't really experienced any lag.

Are you actually using the phone or are you just going by what forums/people say?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] RADLOUNI:
standards

no offense, but it all has to do with standards a person is used to.

if you're coming from windows mobile, the lags you experience when using SGS are okay

if you're coming from iphone, SGS lags like a *****. Aside from the open OS/closed OS debate, the fluidity and smoothness of iphone 3gs UI and the instant response you get when you click on an icon/app puts the SGS to shame. sometimes i had to wait for 5 seconds to get a response after i clicked an icon. this never happened with the 3GS no matter how big the app is

I had a 3GS, sold it and bought an SGS, and i know how both telephones handle

Edit: the above post refers to bell I9000, i have the regular I9000. I dont know if there is ahardware difference or samsung has rectified what they did wrong in the regular I900
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dakine:
What build quality issues? The other issues have been well documented and are fixable with some reasonable effort. The GPS fix is just around the corner.

I understand *****ing about other stuff but build quality? Its great imo. Just because the phone has a plastic back cover doesn't mean the quality is bad.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] hol17:
You don't specify anything; you just said 'I don't know how you guys gloss over this phone's dealbreaking flaws' referring to EVERY Galaxy S. I don't have any problems, just because you do doesn't mean everyone has the exact same problems and bought the exact same version as yours.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] scouzer:
I have the phone. I've had it since August 5th. I'm glad you project your experience onto mine implying that mine do not exist. You do not have my phone. Until you do, you are a complete ass to assume I'm making these things up.

I was in Canadian Tire the other day and checked my phone--signal between 0 and 1 bar. Within 5 minutes, it locked up. When I visit my mom, her basement has poor reception. My phone locks up routinely down there. I don't care if you haven't experienced it, many of us have.

I personally have not YET had the build quality issues, which is why I said as detailed by Paul at MCR. It's like any phone with poor build quality though... chances are it will affect most of us.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] SiL3nTKiLL:
everything will be fixed in due time...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] scouzer:
Are you on crack? That wasn't my post.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] android53:
have you tried any of the fixes in the development section?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] scouzer:
Such as? I was running CFLagFix; when I tried to uninstall it to update to a new version it corrupted my phone. That was one of my wipes. It didn't really help the performance anyway TBH.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ksizzle9:
Yes I don't see any lag. I mean none. And I don't use a task killer and don't news to. I get paerfect signal at my apt at school: no freeze. I get no signal at my parents house at all:no freeze. I cluck on a icon: it opens the second I click it. I'm not big on toychwiz: Launcher Pro. Its a great phone. Love it. I have the Droid x also and still don't think that the x is even comparable. My two cents.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] hol17:
Look at the title of your topic; or did you just forget that was there?

Dropped my phone plenty of times and have not experienced any set backs because of it. Dropped it on it's screen, side, etc; it's a sturdy phone. Just because it has the look and kind of feel of a cheap quality doesn't always mean it is.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] LostAlone:
I don't think anyone is glossing over anything. Half the posts on this forum are about lag and gps problems.

Thing is that you can fix both problems with easy one click things, and keeping on top of your firmware.

If you are getting lag to such extremes, and on two devices, its because your clogging up the memory with too much stuff running together.

You'll have some culture shock because up until recently iOs only runs one thing at a time, and hitting home closed things. Not so for android, and particularly things like browser windows and certain widgets can just eat your ram and cause the slow down. If its happening ' when it feels like it' then that's probably your culpret.

The sgs is not without its flaws but that's no excuse to treat her bad.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] RADLOUNI:
Then honestly, the only explanation is that Samsung has released I9000s with different hardware versions to rectify hardware problems

This is the only reason i see to explain people not having lag problems and apps opening the second you click them. I must be one of the unlucky guys with an early hardware version
[Galaxy S I9000 General] hol17:
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/US-...msung-Galaxy-S-explained-article-a_12223.html

It's true; there are different versions but they are vastly different in some cases (some have hard-keyboards while others are just a case difference).

Does it affect the hardware? Maybe in some cases but there are probably other details on the web somewhere.

EDIT:

http://androidheadlines.com/2010/06/all-us-versions-of-the-samsung-galaxy-s-compared.html

The specs are almost identical in all phones except for some cameras and some storage, other than that, identical hardware wise.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] riz157:
I know exactly how scouzer feels had very similar experience. I felt one of the worst devices ever purely due to the lag and gps issues. After trying m many firmwares I finally found thebest one out there for me any way, JM5 + 2.0 lag fix, which pretty much fixed the problems.

I've currently 100 applications on my device and Have started to experience bit of a lag now and again which is not bad.

probably the best android mobile out there at this time, certainly in europe anyway until that is the Desire HD is launched perhaps then I will get rid of this and get the Desire HD.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Bobler420:
Buy an iphone then these are soft ware problems they will be fixed to o many users for samsung to ignore I look at it like these problems can be fixed and then this phone will have the best hardware and software
[Galaxy S I9000 General] NZtechfreak:
Mine is lag fixed, and the GPS was always fine, haven't ever lost any of my data, loving it.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] applebook:
I don't know how a crude troll can come here assuming that everyone must have the exact same problems that he has.

GPS? Get a GPS device.

The build quality is just fine aside from the cheap back, but almost every phone out there has a terribly thin and flimsy back cover. The rest of the case is actually very sturdy and evinces no flex.

Lag issues should be fixed, but even as is, it doesn't take FIVE seconds to load some apps like one poster here claims. At least my device doesn't do that.

:rolleyes:
[Galaxy S I9000 General] scouzer:
this is a $500 phone. i'm sorry i had reasonable expectations.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Bobler420:
500 bucks vs 1000 for the iphone 4 and you would be gettin dropped calls a cell phone that cant make calls 100% of the time :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Toss3:
Just because it's a 500$ device doesn't mean that it's "the perfect phone"(500$ isn't even that much anyways). The iPhone is at least twice that and has many issues that are never going to be fixed. Besides mine doesn't have any lag(one click lag fix + apps2nand does wonders) and the gps is working well after applying the epic fix. The build quality is surprisingly good as I haven't been careful with mine and it doesn't have a scratch on it(okay maybe some tiny ones, but it's nowhere near as bad as Paul's is). I've also not had a single crash since I got the phone.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Bobler420:
i agree and its software so it cann be fixed the hardwares amazing gps fix in September and frayo aswell which should make the sgs alot faster and less lag

i get 8/8 satellites on my gps connects fast the lag just needs to be fixed

i am very happy with this phone cant wait till next month for the new updates
[Galaxy S I9000 General] wfhowell:
I have an iphone and a Galaxy S. My iphone was $199. $1000 ?? where?? China??

As far as fixes for iphone, I have none of those issues that everyone talks about, plus I have my iphone jailbroken, and why not? its legal. That makes the iphone an amazing phone. Dropped calls?? antenna issues?? have none.

Its just like the Galaxy S. Some people have all those issues but not everyone. Whey do we make blanket statements if .1% our of 8 million iphones sold have an issue. Same with Galaxy S. Im enjoying my Galaxy S. I flash it when i want to and it has been a lot of fun. You cant flash an iphone, but you can jailbreak and load a ton of third party programs which let the iphone do just about everyhting. Both are great phones. No sense in taking sides or downgrading the iphone or galaxy s. They both perform very well. I own both.. i use them every day.. i know how both of them work..

both are great phones.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Pika007:
There IS a world outside USA, you know.

And pretty much everywhoere, an iPhone4 costs above 800$ for the 16gb, and above 1000$ for the 32gb version.

Also, check the U.S for unlocked devices, you'll get similar prices.

Let's not get started on the iPhone issue thing, it's a pure design flaw, and it happens in ALL devices, to a certain degree.

If you live in an area with very good network cover you won't drop calls, if you live somewhere with less signal, you'll drop calls.

Provided that over 80% of U.S population lives in a place with decent network coverage, there hasn't been a massive call-droping panic. That's all.

Now, about the SGS-

GPS is pretty bad, i most certainly acknowledge it, but up untill now i didn't have a single problem. Might be due to extremely good sattelite coverage in my country.

Still warning other people who are interested in the device about the GPS though, i'm waiting to see what the rumored fix will bring.

Lags- Even with stock JF3, i never had a lag of more then 1-2 seconds when opening an app. NEVER 5 seconds or something extreme like that.

And after lagfix- oooooh boy, i'm walkin' on air.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] bilboa1:
1000 is the price phone only with no carrier. Like the galaxy s is

0 with carrier 500 without

Both have good and bad stuffed but I prefer the galaxy for sure, so flexible and bigscreen
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Dogmann:
Hi all,

Well i just got my Galaxy S today and have just tested the GPS whilst taking the dog for his run got a fix in about 20 seconds and accurate to 10 metres so I'm a little confused as to just what the GPS problem is meant to be and I'm running JF3. Have seen a little lag sometimes on trying to open apps but nothing that's going to be a deal breaker for me and will look into the fixes that are already around but can quite easily wait for the official release of Froyo without it killing me.

As for using a iPhone well if that's best for you fair enough use one but it's a non starter for me a 3.5" screen Retina display or not is just to small and there are just so many other things that are not right about it for me to even consider one.

Marc
[Galaxy S I9000 General] odyssey61:
1. I have never had the GPS problem.

2. Your right though these things shouldnt have happened. I started to use app killers and then went rooted and so on. Had I not been able to do this it would have become frustrating for sure.

3. Havent had that problem ever.

4. Nope nothing like that.

5. Nope again. You are having a tough time with yours. Did you do a factory reset when you got it?

6. Havent read up on that.

Samsung could have and should have done a much better build with this. I am grateful to xda for the fixes. If they hadnt been here I am sure I would have adapted or dumped it.

Having said all that I have learnt alot from having to tweak my phone and really enjoyed it. Now it is on JM2 internal lagfix 2.2 and it runs very sweetly indeed. Now on my 3GS I couldnt do any of this and you know what, I would rather have a troublesome phone I can fix than a boring phone that cant be really changed and is just, well, boring.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kcharng:
I can understand the frustration and I have a little bit of each problems mentioned above but it is definitely not a deal breaker.

I will start complaining when 2.2 froyo comes out and they still have not fixed these issues. For now, I can accept the phone for what it is. The performance of the phone for most part are quite acceptable.

The only complaint I have is the poor build quality of the phone.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] cba1986:
Take it to Warranty.

I have this phone for two weeks and never experience such things. I live in Argentina so the network is always crappy but the phone never freeze becouse of that.

The GPS lacks on accuracy but fix in almost 2 minutes witch is not bad for a cellphone.

About the lag, the only lag, was when i was installing applications from the market but with the lag fix flies like the wind.

And corrupted data?

Well i flashed some many times that i already loose count and i never lost a single bit of information.

I think you get a faulty unit.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kcharng:
Also, I feel that most people here in this forums does not intentionally gross over Galaxy S flaws. If I would have to guess, it would be that most of the people here probably used their phone 'as is' from Samsung for less than a week before rooting their phone and applies various fixes to the problems you mentioned above.

Developers' forum might not be the best environments to raise your concerns since most of what you posts are already fixable with clever hacks and roms.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Silverdragondk:
Look up top. See the title of your post? If you don't like people projecting their experiences onto yours, then maybe you shouldn't project your experiences onto others? Hypocrit.

1: Not a problem for me. I don't use it often, but when I have used it, it's been very accurate. Not a "dealbreaker".

2: Not much of a problem for me. On occassion I got a couple of seconds of lag, and there's no apparent reason. Using the "One click lag fix" does seem to remedy this to some extent. After a few days of use the lag reappears though(and in my oppinion it seems worse) and I reset the phone and the lag is gone. Quick and easy to fix. Not a "dealbreaker".

3: Not experienced this problem. It froze once or twice just after installing the lag fix, so I'm attributing those freezes to the lag fix(did a factory reset and the freezing was gone). So, again, not a "dealbreaker".

4: Not experienced this problem, so not a "dealbreaker".

5: Not experienced this problem, so not a "dealbreaker".

6: Had the phone for over a month and only a few microscratches on the home button. Maybe Paul and others simply don't look after their phones properly.(Yeah, I use a case and screenprotector, which I know "they shouldn't have to")

My BIGGEST problem with this phone is that the capacitive touch buttons from time to time don't want to register my touch. I can hit those buttons 3,4,5 times and nothing happens, then all of a sudden it registers my touch again... Can be quite annoying when it happens, but it's not a "dealbreaker" for me.

Regards.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] pharaohdk:
:thumbs up: totally agree, ive never seen lag and i dont come from a windows mobile, my gps is fine (if one really need gps with in 0,5 meter, then buy a bloody gps then, this is a

phone

with a gps.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] pharaohdk:
Used my phone for a month, no fixes, no root.

and no problems.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] scouzer:
Well, I exchanged my SGS again today so it's phone #3. We'll see if this does the trick.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] andrewluecke:
Yep, and the question is, on your other two phones, were your jamming issues happening in official firmware. The corruption is most likely due to the design of the Lag fix though (Journals have special needs to work, and using EXT in a mass file sitting on top of a RFS drive probably doesn't fulfill the requirements required to guarantee data is safe).

Because I don't recall my phone ever jamming (except during flashing, and that's likely odin's fault). The GPS and Lag does suck, but your other issues may not be Samsung's fault entirely..
[Galaxy S I9000 General] TMReuffurth:
I can say i definitely never had any freeze. Never had to restart the Galaxy S because of any lag or other issues. Never lost any data, no mails, no contacts, no pictures, no settings...

Ok, the GPS has some inaccuracy issues on my standard Rom, but i think it gets solved in 2.2 and as i don´t use it a lot right now it doesn´t bother me..

Lag? Only when i install something from the market. But as soon as it is installed, the lag is gone. That´s why i don´t root my Phone just to apply any of the fixes.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] K0v4L:
Same here - no lags at all. Sometimes I have to wait for a 0.5 - 1 sec. I'm running jm2 with 53 apps. Seriously NO LAGS.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] iqbalbaskara:
GPS does suck ( hoping this will be fixed with the froyo update ), lagged a bit before the lagfix, but NEVER freezed nor corrupt any data.

www.iqbalaribaskara.com | Sent from my GR-I9000 using XDA app.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Hyperion82:
I'm sorry to read that you suffer so much, but my experience with my SGS i9000 is rather good for now. I've been using this phone for a month after coming from the brilliant N1 (had the 2g->3g->3gs before that).

I really like the build quality, the phone is very light and solid at the same time. It fell on the floor one time but no scratches appeared.

BTW the iPhone back case gets scratches after a while ... the good thing here is that you do not have to take apart the whole phone just to change the case :)

There's no lag for me ... I have over 150 apps installed and run at least 3-4 simultaneously. I use the advanced task killer. of course there's a bit of waiting time when you want to add a shortcut to the homescreen while choosing it from the list, this is not necessary if you open up the apps draw and just press and hold :)

GPS is not very accurate but work just fine for me. the Agps functions quite well and finds my location in 3-5 seconds tops while using layar or google maps. while using a 3d party GPS app I've never had any problems and accuracy is great ! I use Waze almost every day flawlessly

It sounds like you just need a good stable ROM to try with a good lagfix, that's all you need to enjoy your phone. Cause really you can't compare the SGS to any other.

cheers
[Galaxy S I9000 General] The.Opethian:
Sorry to hear that you've had bad experiences. Although, what may be a deal breaker for you, may not be the same for other people. Not all people experience the issues that you claim to be experiencing.

For me, I honestly was going for the iPhone 4. Just to balance this thread out a bit, here were the "deal breakers" for me in regards to the 4th generation Apple device:

1. Antennagate was a big issue. Regardless if it was overblown, it was very arrogant of Apple to respond the way they did.

2. Price. After some careful calculations, the iPhone 4 would have cost me at least twice than the SGS from purchase to the long run.

3. Openness. This is too big a subject but is split into the following points.

4. App Store. It is a fact that there are more quality apps and games on the Apple Platform, but the "necessary" apps are available on Android. I totally dislike how Apple gets away with having developers pay for a subscription only to have an app pulled off from the store. I am also looking into developing some apps for Android.

5. I really dislike iTunes. Not so much that I'd not use it, but its way of asking you to things ITS way puts me off. Convert GB's of video and audio just so I can play it on my device is so stupid.

6. The screen. Yeah, let's call the resolution RETINA. That's cool. But I'll take the 4.0" over the 3.5" any day. Super AMOLED exceeded my expectations. I see myself squinting at the retina display.

7. The SGS feels good in the hand. I think "well designed to be light" when I hold it. The iPhone 4, I get "must not hold it that way, but wait, I'm left handed! OMG don't drop it".

I must stop now, I could go on. I think the bottom line is that, again, each device has its flaws, pros, and ergonomics. Which way is more suitable for you should be what makes you decide.

To be honest if I had issues like that, regardless of the dealbreakers in regards to the iPhone 4, I definitely would go for an iPhone 4 instead. I hope you get a device without any of those issues.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] zipolly:
problems

I guess i too must be very lucky as i have not experienced any of the mentioned problems , my phone has worked flawlessly since i bought it and it is crammed with apps from marketplace , i use the sat nav regularly with no probs and as far as signal is concerened ive never dropped a call, the only thing which i could comment negativley on is the compass its total rubbish and never points in the correct position but other than that this is as near perfect a phone as i have ever owned !!!! :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dnsp:
Mine works flawlessly. Sometimes it points to the wrong direction (not very often, maybe after some strong magnetic interference) but all I have to do is to calibrate it moving the device in an "8" pattern 3 or 4 times.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Karupan:
I haven't had any of the issues the OP mentioned. I don't use GPS extensively, so can't comment on that. But I can confidently say that I've NEVER had a freeze up, and the lag is very minimal if not non-existant. Coming from an iPhone 3G, I barely notice the screens changing.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
seems like the OP is another iphone fan boy or something along the line
[Galaxy S I9000 General] scouzer:
Dude.. I've never owned an iPhone.. I've been staunchly anti iPhone since the beginning. My last phone was an HTC Hero, and an HTC Touch before that.

I wish you guys wouldn't dismiss peoples issues just because we're frustrated.

Are you guys suggesting I skip installing one of the lag fixes this time?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Adevem:
Sorry to hear about your SGS but mine's perfect, and the best one I've owned to date. Coming from a former iPhone user to a fresh Android user... that's pretty big no?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] furt890:
The best we can do now for us the newbies are putting that ext2 fix and make do till stock Android ROM or Froyo is released for Galaxy S, mine is running really smooth with ext2 fix (considering this is not a real total fix yet) the difference is just astounding before this fix.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] cba1986:
I'm using JM5 with RyanZA One Click 2.3, script for about a week a no problem. I even remove the battery to change simcard when the phone was still running and didn't loose anything.

And we didn't dismiss anyone(me at least). It's that when someone appear ramming against something that a lot of people had been using for quite a lot with no serious problems. It's look like someone is looking for attention.

Hope that that problems are gone with your new phone. :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Adevem:
the first thing i did when i got my phone, same with another other phones. i do a clean factory restore / reflash and crap like that.

to make sure the telcos didn't install **** on my phone.