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[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
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crap, who knew reading could answer questions??! shocking, i know.
[EVO 4G Android Development] sarahlegs:
C-c-combo breaker!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
commandment number 3

thou shalt not give way to trolls lest ye be a feeder unto them that they shall multiply and wander unto paths walked by the enlightened
[EVO 4G Android Development] stangdriverdoug:
Grabbing popcorn taking a seat.....
[EVO 4G Android Development] hondoslack:
I concur, although, it is nice to have shift summarize where things are at now and then. That is the bane of forums, that the [OP] very very rarely keeps the first or second post up to date with the latest goings on. This usually results in folks clicking "last-post", not finding what they want, and posting the troll bait.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Igotsanevo4g:
So if wimax is this tricky, how tricky is HDMI? Has anyone took a peek at HDMI, what's going on on that front?

Since HTC released the eclair source for everything, can anything be used from that? Is there any drivers in there that might be tweakable/usable?
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
hdmi is mostly done, just needs some polish. cyanogen said it'll be in 6.1.1 with wimax. also, those drivers in the eclair source release are of practically no use.
[EVO 4G Android Development] CheesyNutz:
holy **** balls ! that had to hurt
[EVO 4G Android Development] Igotsanevo4g:
Thanks Shift :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] Samzebian:
How can they be saying wimax will be in 6.1.1 if people here have only come so far as they say, which is to say they still have some work on their hands?

and if hdmi just needs polish, is it usable but only hard to use/buggy, and does it output everything over hdmi or is it the same as the sense roms that only outpt certain video/picture apps?
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
concerning wimax, cyanogen can say that because his team is working on it maybe? toast and shinzul (rehtonaesoohc here on xda) have made significant progress on wimax. we tested earlier today and will continue testing later.

about hdmi, it's full hdmi output. as far as i know, it's considered done, but it'll be committed in 6.1.1.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mitchellvii:
So have they cracked wimax and are just testing or not cracked yet?

Question is, once wimax is cracked will anyone EVER use a Sense rom again? Maybe once that uber-cool new version of Sense they were talking about comes out.
[EVO 4G Android Development] fmedina2:
The best Christmas present I could have asked for. :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] Samzebian:
Well considering how long it took for 6.1 to release, they have a lot of time to get wimax and HDMI setup properly for it. I'm just saying how can they say it will be released with almost a guarantee that it'll be in 6.1.1 when there's so much to be done (or so it seems). But if it's already in testing then I shouldn't really say anything.

That HDMI support seems extremely promising and I can't wait to get it! I kind of hope they can port it to sense-based roms as well! (I like bakedsnack, and it's sense-based)
[EVO 4G Android Development] drmacinyasha:
They said HDMI and WiMax would be in 6.1 when 6.0 was released.

Morals of the story: Timetables can change, don't get your hopes up, take everything with a grain of salt, beggars can't be choosers, and be grateful for what you get. :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] Igotsanevo4g:
Agreed.

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[EVO 4G Android Development] Samzebian:
Yea I remember that...

I know I know, but hey I'm not begging about this or anything, I'm just wondering when it *might* be coming out. It might never come out, and I'm ok with that. But if it does, that would be awesome.
[EVO 4G Android Development] snrubs13:
Rephrase that just a bit, for CM purposes--Moral of the story: Don't ask for ETAs.
[EVO 4G Android Development] firemedic1343:
I got the Evo on day 1. I will keep it for 2 years. I'll be thrilled when I get CM6 w/ 4G.

Thanks for commenting on the thread Shift.

Appreciate everyones hard work.
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
LOL!! nice ninja-edit there..
[EVO 4G Android Development] sarahlegs:
Saw that didja? ;-)
[EVO 4G Android Development] hondoslack:
Dude, they (cm) gave the ETA's, so although we are perhaps fools for believing the hype, it truly was an induced hype.
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
what eta did cm give?

also, induced hype sounds like a personal problem.
[EVO 4G Android Development] OtisFeelgood:
They (cm) don't give ETA's.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bbv203:
Since nobody has mentioned it yet.....From Twitter:

Shinzul: The HTC API is kanged successfully! On to @toastcfh to whip up the jni functions
[EVO 4G Android Development] stangdriverdoug:
Yup saw that too. Looks like they are making good solid progress.
[EVO 4G Android Development] JoeLithium:
Out of curiosity. When CM team gets 4g and HDMI working well, would it be fair to think they will share with the folks working on the SenseHD roms?
[EVO 4G Android Development] BigRick10:
CM is a open source ROM. So the code is there for use. Just show credit where credit is due ;-)
[EVO 4G Android Development] JoeLithium:
I honestly don't know why the words "open source" didn't click in my head.

Thanks =]
[EVO 4G Android Development] p-slim:
It will not work on sense roms. Certain framework needs to be built into the rom that htc will not incorporate. For instance the music player can't just be taken from cm6 and put into a sense rom or cm's camera. Hdmi and open source 4g will not work with sense roms
[EVO 4G Android Development] ViViDboarder:
It will still be useful for them I'm sure. I'm pretty sure sequansd came straight from Sense. So regardless, it'll be helpful but won't be as simple as just "merge 4G". :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] p-slim:
This is exactly what I meant :) the only other thing is that htc will have to kang cm's source and will they? They also need to kang cm's auto sensor light, as there's sucks balls.
[EVO 4G Android Development] strung:
That would be funny!
[EVO 4G Android Development] hondoslack:
Uh, yes, they (cm) did give eta, on several occasions. The latest eta is wimax on 6.1.1. From steve cyanogen himself...
[EVO 4G Android Development] hondoslack:
There was a comment earlier in this thread, and I do remember reading it for myself, that they (cm) "hoped" to have wimax in 6.1.0. I wasn't trying to slam anyone, in fact I just missed a very important deadline at work myself, I was just correcting the misconception that cm and team don't give eta's. They do. We are just not supposed to ask for them. We should also not complain when they don't reach them. Its free, people. Donating doesn't even give you that right.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Samzebian:
sorry, but I don't know what that means...

can someone translate that, to, you know, english?

Arabic will do too! (lol jk can barely have a basic conversation in arabic)

btw I actually tried to search that term and got this post and his twitter status :(
[EVO 4G Android Development] DarkManX4lf:
If you are referring to kanged, I think it means to take something and put it to better use.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=683927
[EVO 4G Android Development] iomthd:
http://kanged.urbanup.com/3459146
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shinzul:
Basically, it means that we can successfully call the HTC API functions.

Like setWimaxEnabled(true) and doDhcpRequest(), etc.

It's a very good thing :p
[EVO 4G Android Development] ViViDboarder:
Hey, just wanted to say I'm still willing to help out with dev or testing.

Also, I live in NoVA too. :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] squiggie:
OMG! OMFG!

(taking chill pill now...)
[EVO 4G Android Development] abmone:
He said there so effing close!

I'm very excited
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
This is great news. Now all developers can include 4G in there roms which is great for the evo. To me this is probably the best android on sprint and slightly behind the nexus one.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ChaseStreet:
Lol a classic move. Get the money first cyan. Lol some suckers...
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
erm... wtf?
[EVO 4G Android Development] stangdriverdoug:
Yeah really....what the heck did that mean?
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
not really sure... kind of impressive, if you think about it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] strung:
woot!!

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[EVO 4G Android Development] stangdriverdoug:
Yeah lol such charecters
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
yea, kind of a new low around these parts (and hell, you and i both know how low things can go).
[EVO 4G Android Development] myndwire:
*shiver*

it's cold enough man, don't remind us. ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
:p

Here's some warming news... toast and shinzul are very close to getting wimax!!

(as per shinzul's tweet)

Swyped from my EVO
[EVO 4G Android Development] myndwire:
totally saw that dude, i'm so ungodly excited... i've literally never even had 4g before even though it's been here for months, since i had made the switch to CM immediately (before it hit pittsburgh), so it's going to be like a brand new toy for me -- as if the gtab is getting old or something, hehe.
[EVO 4G Android Development] stangdriverdoug:
Prove it:)

Edit: cool! And i was joking on the prove it thing. Hey shift can you retweet that so I can follow this guy on twitter? Thanks bro
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
Ditto! I've been with CM since the first nightlies, despite having wimax at home and work.

Swyped from my EVO
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
Already done, good sir.

Swyped from my EVO
[EVO 4G Android Development] LifeInTheGrey:
+1 ... I rooted and flashed CM within an hour of getting my EVO ... partially because I am such a CM fan, but mainly because I didn't even want to try 4G and have that feeling of anxious waiting. And I live in Seattle, one of the best 4G cities on the map.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Crossrocker:
Atta boy. I don't use 4g other then for tethering. Oh those beautiful 8mbps speeds. But I like cm much better :)

A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on the IPhone. We now have the Htc Evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] p-slim:
Same boat here. You guys honestly don't know how anxious I am. Wimax before christmas and im the happiest man alive. Its funny because it goes live here december 28th, I wonder who will win. You know if it goes live in 3 weeks then its basically everywhere already :(
[EVO 4G Android Development] myndwire:
best birthday present ever (12/28, but i'm hoping sooner) :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] hondoslack:
Are they doing so from the terminal, or are there some gui hooks being experimented with? Another thing I'm confused about (and perhaps others here too) are they doing their experiments on a regular nightly, or hacking in their own tweaks?
[EVO 4G Android Development] stangdriverdoug:
Ok so when they do get this working to whom are we donating to?
[EVO 4G Android Development] myndwire:
unsure about anything short of menu-based stuff like in sense for wimax. i'd presume we'll see stock-looking stuff in our wireless menu. as far as building, i'm sure they're doing all of this on the latest possible cm evo code to ensure that it's able to just be checked in, built, and tested instead of having to worry about differential changes to random pieces that wimax will use (framework, etc).
[EVO 4G Android Development] TheTruth:
my evo is jealous of my gtablet
[EVO 4G Android Development] mitchellvii:
Depends on what you mean by "close"...

I guess I don't understand how they can be "very close to making wimax work"?

I mean, either it works or it doesn't. If it doesn't work, how do they know they are close at all? If there is some key missing piece after all this time, how do they know they will discover it?

I think what would be fairer to say is that "we are closer than we were because we have been studying it and understand it better than before, but we still need a major breakthrough to get there - it could be tomorrow or in a month or never..."

Edison was "close to inventing the lightbulb" on his first try in that he had the general concept down, but it took him thousands of failures to finally get it right.

** P.S., However, if they have figured it out and are just testing it and working out the bugs but it DOES basically work, then yeah, they are close :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
and remember kids, "don't feed the trolls"
[EVO 4G Android Development] myndwire:
just like anything development-wise, if you know how it works, understand how the pieces talk, and just have to put all the pieces together, then that explains being 'close', which is where i think they're finally at. before there were so many pieces they couldn't get going and weren't 100% sure on how they fit (hence reverse engineering htc's proprietary crap) that it was more so like Edison and the light bulb. i think they've got a grasp on it and will probably produce something soon from what they've been saying. i'll see if i can grab up an update from cyanogen at some point.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Justin.G11:
Well even once they declare success .... the whole thing still needs to then be integrated to be usable. It's exciting to be sure ... but I dont think we'll see a tweet saying "Eueka it's working!" followed by a WIMAX option in the next next Nightly.

Still ... it's _huge_ news as it liberates not only cyanogenmod but anyone who wants to carry AOSP torch.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
excellent point as people sometimes i think loose sight of this in the Evo community. It's not CM wimax, its wimax for all, thus liberating all of the hardware from the vendors. regardless of the ROM base, this would be an amazing feat
[EVO 4G Android Development] p-slim:
But honestly how many aosp roms are there, I can only count 2, CM and miui? This in no way will help a sense rom.
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
alright...

*rolls up sleeves*

just stop right there... 'nuff said.
[EVO 4G Android Development] stangdriverdoug:
What is up with some of these posts?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Justin.G11:
And why are there so many more Sense ROMs? IMHO it's because they support the hardware as you're hacking around the backed in drivers. If AOSP ROMs can support the hardware thier popularity I expect would sky rocket.

Not that I have anything against a Sense ROM mind you, but most said ROMs are skins and tweaks of the same beast. It will be nice to have fully functional options.
[EVO 4G Android Development] myndwire:
sense roms are easy. anyone and their mother can develop something 'slightly different from stock'. there are exceptions; some actually put some work in (like damagecontrol, etc) but just keep overlaying senseui because people like the stock look/feel. it's a mix of preferential versus simplicity.
[EVO 4G Android Development] stangdriverdoug:
Agreed

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[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
I guess everyone is entitled to theirs. my two cents is the major fans of AOSP usually come off as elitists and is a little off putting. even if "sense dev'ing everyone can do" there are still only a few major ROM's out there that folks use and bring a lot to the table. instead of condemning stock/sense (which helped get android to the maintstream by the way) we should celebrate that there are options for everyone. if you look at some of the sense ROM's + theme's out there they are far from stock looking/feel.

true, but this might encourage folks since they would then be able to bring a fully featured ROM to the Evo

Haha, Classic!
[EVO 4G Android Development] david279:
Anybody see this on twitter ...

@Shinzul...

Oh snap night big discovery by @toastcfh. It's too bad I will be out of town for the weekend :-(

Did I miss something today?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shinzul:
I wouldn't be so sure ;)

I'm building off of whatever the nightly was about 2 weeks ago I believe. Nothing I am working on should be affected by nightly code, but when we're ready, I will merge the changes into the CM nightly trunk.

Right now, we are very close to having wimax in CM working. Unless there is a major catastrophic setback, you'll see new information soon(tm).
[EVO 4G Android Development] p-slim:
Just because of the simple fact you keep us (mainly myself im worried about :)) in the loop, your personal donation is going to be that much more. Make sure you put your own paypal account in your signature, it'll be like stocking stuffers
[EVO 4G Android Development] Justin.G11:
Wouldn't be the first time I was wrong.... here's to hoping :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] mrmylanman:
Always glad to see progress being made! Can't wait to hear more!
[EVO 4G Android Development] hondoslack:
Sweet, thanks for the update!
[EVO 4G Android Development] John Kotches:
Shinzul and toast,

Thanks for your hard work that all of us will benefit from.

When all is said and done you should post the number of man hours and lines of code are involved. This will help everyone understand just how much work is involved in building kernel modules (aka device drivers) from scratch.

I wonder if the bounty even comes out to minimum wage ;)

Swyped on my PC36100 using tapatalk!shinzu
[EVO 4G Android Development] pcondosta:
had a taste of 4g in new haven last night (only for a minute, missed CM too much) :)

put me down for $40
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
To be fair, they said "may".
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
No, they did not (see above post).
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
I propose a moratorium on obtuse comments
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Sounds to me like you're asking for it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
J*** in my pants.
[EVO 4G Android Development] stangdriverdoug:
I don't want to sound optomistic but it sounds like the wimax code could get merged into the nightlys in the next week or two.
[EVO 4G Android Development] p-slim:
That's what it sounds like to me also
[EVO 4G Android Development] sarahlegs:
In seriousness, given Shinzul's heads-up, we should think about plans for sending our donations soon. Couple points:

1) Since this has been a multi-person effort (and a fantastic example of cutting edge and collaborative open source coding!), we will need to split the pool somehow.

2) Most of them said they did not want money, but I'm sure most of us share my desire to not to leave any significant contributors out. Maybe we could give them the option to redirect proceeds to charity of their choice, like Child's Play or something?

3) We need to think about how we should split our donations (evenly?).

4) We need to have a virtual party of some sort to celebrate this achievement if and when the time comes.

All of this is simply prepping, just food for thought. Obviously, swamp gas from a weather balloon could get trapped in a thermal pocket and refract the light from Venus, destroying the 4G code...but signs point to this being imminent.

Thoughts? Over to you, kpoz.
[EVO 4G Android Development] p-slim:
its been stated that the funds will go to the cyanogenmod team and cm team will do what they want with the funds, that's what's in the op. personally I will keep my obligation but also make personal donations to toastcfh and shinzul.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
It certainly does sound like it will be incorporated soon.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
I will contact Toast to confirm that Shinzul will receive a portion of the compensation paid to the CM team. Most likely, there are a few other individuals who have worked on this project—maybe not as extensively as Toast and Shinzul, but they still deserve to be compensated.

Shinzul will be rewarded for his efforts. Do not worry.
[EVO 4G Android Development] stangdriverdoug:
Thats a great idea. A seperate contribution to all 3.

Edit: I like that idea kpoz
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
i think we should get shinzul a lifetime supply of java and toast a lifetime supply of jam.
[EVO 4G Android Development] p-slim:
haha, honestly they are heroes once this thing its working. the day I have the 4g option in the notification bar or power widget on cm, ITS GAME OVER.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
You may have misunderstood me. Toast isn't going to cheat anyone out of compensation, so I will leave it up to the team of individuals who are currently working on 4G implementation to determine the size of the slice of the pie for each contributor.
[EVO 4G Android Development] stangdriverdoug:
Even if it takes another 4 months I'm ok with that becuse the code will be able to be used if future wimax devices and not just the evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] donatom3:
To the developers working on this just know there are alot of us watching this thread being quiet who appreciate what you do and we will be patient even if that's not one of my strong points.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kevinbear:
Just wanted to offer my services if you need anything tested out. Finally have a good strong WiMax signal inside my house (8mps down, 1mps up on average so far). I do understand that this won't mean "getting WiMax early", but just simply testing out the code.

If you need an extra tester, send me a message on GTalk: kmbear at gmail
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shinzul:
Alright alright let's all just be excites before I start coding in exceptions for people's phones not to work ;-)

I'M KIDDING! ;-)
[EVO 4G Android Development] hondoslack:
Btw, I'm glad folks like you have time to dedicate to this. I wish I did. I'm the sole income earner for a family of six, and am currently hiding in my closet to get some peace and quiet and rest, if that gives you any idea... Thank you.
[EVO 4G Android Development] LifeInTheGrey:
I need to put in a PIN for the security settings after reflashing CM, but it worked fine for me. Maybe it was the specific apk I used (it was hacked to remove the security settings). I attached the apk to this post if you want to try that (I do this every time I need to wipe and start fresh, it works every time). Hell, if you're okay with Email being 2.2 and not 2.2.1, it won't require those security settings.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
Thanks I will give it a shot
[EVO 4G Android Development] toastcfh:
thread cleaned

thread cleaned. lets stay on topic please. no need to roam into q thread and down the efforts of other individuals. so some are mad that wimax does not work in cm as of yet. those same people feel mislead or told it would be in cm by now. to kill all end all, i personally have never said it would be tomorrow. that said there are only two individuals working on getting this working to my knowledge. those two people are me and shinzul. we devote a ton of time daily/nightly to the project. though its not finished yet it is still closer then anyone else has openly come to getting it to work. much more is involved at the coding level then just dropping in a few lines and watching it go. for a while it was only me poking around looking for the solutions to major issues in getting wimax into cm. shinzul has recently joined my efforts shedding light on much needed java issues. one thing all who wanna complain need to understand is we are working hard on this and making progress. but we do have our own jobs and lives to live. on that same note... no one should ever be demanded to produce any project here on XDA. we are a development community. sure there are roms with everything working and sure they are easier to flash and live with. but every once in a while a peoject comes long and devs strive to do the "undoable". those projects find their way to the development section. no need to hate on a couple guys who wanna devote their time to doing something that hasnt been done before. of course no one asks anyone to believe with blind faith. but it prolly best to either contribute, support the effort, or (i know this may alao be thinking outside the box) not posting at all.

so please stay on topic and stop trying to start drama for no reason. its all really no contribution what so ever to get mad because its not done yet.