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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Not sure quite what is happening, since I have never suffered from this issue, I did have frequent 'no service' issues on 1.71 radio, which sorted itself out after going to a 1.65 radio. I'm wondering if I should reflash to WM for a while to check things on haret installs, since I have used Android flashed to nand since it's earliest days.

Reboot does not work, never has, the usual procedure is either a shutdown, or in extreme cases a battery pull if everything locks up totally.

The key mapping is :

Power key, power on, and sleep.

Green key, dialer

red key, hang up, and sleep ( yes it is confusing, and occasionally annoying if you use handsfree and push it to wake during a phone call, yes it wakes, and hang up on whoever you are talking to).

OK key, back key

Symbol key, Menu key

left soft key, volume down

right soft key, volume up

email key, screen orientation key

Browser key, recent apps ( long press )

If the ok key makes it sleep, it is possible you pressed the red key by accident, (I do this a lot).

Android on kaiser has a quite steep learning curve, since a lot of it is undocumented, and of course subject to ongoing development. Since it is by and large a communal effort, there are quite a few things some of us take for granted, due to long term usage, the key assignments are one of these.

Wish I had better news on the whole calls issue, but sadly this one is beyond me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] spaic:
As I said before, I used the modem app in myn's warm donut (and other builds).

The best fix I could find up to now is DCSwitch (a widget that turns off the data connection in another way than changing APN, APN type or something like this. I it may be using ifconfig or something else, but apparently works.)

I think there is a problem with the management of the TTY to the phone part of the... phone (I know it sounds stupid). if you have a PPP connection being setup while you make a call, it freezes.

It just happened to me again, after shuting down for a fake low battery (again).

I will try to see what I have to do when the phone boots (enable/disable data?) to have it working correctly.

EDIT:

Best guess so far: try booting with your phone unplugged (no Activesync, no charger, no nothing).

Maybe when something is connected yo the USB port the TTY's are created in another order or something. (I think my first boot was without anything connected and if you boot with USB connected the TTY for the modem of the phone is a different number or something ???). Maybe someone can test this. I know a little about linux, but most my knowledge was on slack few years back...

Or, if anyone could guide me on how to test this, I would be happy to.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] wallsg:
Thanks, but I think I've only booted while connected one time so that's not it. I'll look for the DCSwitch program.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] spaic:
In my case it worked when I booted unplugged.

Anyway, I think I should try at some point to have the startup file with ppp.nostart=1 and see if I could start pppd via console. (if it even uses pppd...)

Also, in Spare Parts > Battery Info I have a "Time since last boot" of about... 356000 hours... Does this have anything to do with the wrong battery indications?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] spaic:
Data/Phone issue

I think I have found the source of the DATA/Phone problem.

Try booting from winmo with the data connection active (in winmo). Open a IE page or something and then boot in android before the data connection is disconnected (if you have auto disconnect in winmo).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] wallsg:
That did indeed bypass the problem. I see a 3G symbol (although it is H win WinMo, but close enough), can read my gmail, make phone calls, and everything.

I don't have auto disconnect turned on.

What kind of battery life do you get with this on your Kaiser? It seems very "drainy". As I recall, you have to install a program to be able to disconnect the radio.

BTW, I can verify with extreme certainty that I just hit the "OK" button and NOT the red hang up button and the screen turned off and locked (requiring the unlock slide) while trying to back up in gmail. Then when I did it again it worked as expected.

Just added DCSwitch. Turned data connection off and calls still work. Turned it on and calls still work. Tried combinations of ppp.no_start and the data connection started or not in WinMo, and DCSwitch can only start/stop the connection with ppp.no_start=0 and the data connection already started before the HaRET boot.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] spaic:
The solution to start the ppp when ppp.no_start=1 was the modem app in other builds (I am now trying CyanogenMod 6, and it is there).

as for the auto disconnect, i was referring to the winmo registry hack (open a page in IE and then quickly boot in android, gefore winmo disconnects the data)

Well, I am happy we found the "solution" for data/call.

I can guess it is not a problem for the NAND install...

as for battery, it is only of a few hours or something. Usually it stays at some 80-90% and then quickly falls to 15% (if I enable the data connection).

I guess that the voltage drops quite badly (increased current drawn from li-ion battery > lower voltage) and the software thinks that the battery is empty.

It goes from some 3.9 volts to 3.3 volts (and with no current drawn from the battery that would be quite ok 3.9~80% and 3.3~20%, but again, the voltage on a li-ion battery varies alot with the current drawn from it).

The strange thing is that when booting in winmo after low battery i get 0% in winmo, but then it charges very fast (30 minutes or something), so the battery level calculated in android influences the radio value for the battery level (if there is one...), but repairs the reading when the battery is charged.

so, long story short, I get only half a day of android with no data, or 30 minutes with data (3G).

and it does not matter what the build is.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Without a doubt, Android is a lot bigger drain on battery than WM, and that is nothing to do with WM having better battery drivers for kaiser, this is true of all Android devices, native and ported, so regardless of build, it will always be an issue.

Regarding your specific problem, a 30 minute charge from 0-100% in WM is unusually fast, so much so I think you may have a problem with the battery itself, the fast voltage drop also points in this direction. The fact that when you boot WM it also shows 0% means that android's battery estimates are not too far off the truth, and that the battery in getting to the stage where it is unable to hold a full charge, ( a fully charged LiOn battery should give a voltage of over 4v, less than that suggests it is not fully charging), and that is unable to hold what charge it does get.

I would consider a new battery, seriously, this would have been almost normal behaviour back in february, when batteries only lasted a few hours at most when running android, but these days you should get about 8-12 hours normal/light use , 6 or less under heavy use with BT, WiFi, GPS all running, and you'd notice the heat around the lower part of the device at that, ( I managed to get a build running back in early march that drained my fully charged battery in about 15 minutes, got so hot it warped the battery cover).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] wallsg:
I like what I've seen with Android on my Kaiser/Tilt, knowing that the warts are due to this being a port and being ran from the SD card. I think I'm going to get a Captivate via Wirefly for $70 as a family plan primary line upgrade.

The sideload blocking is easily bypassed, fortunately.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] oalexandru.0620:
BT issue

Hi, first of all great build, thank you for your work.

i've installed it yesterday on nad and almost everything works, haven't tryed data yet.

i tryed BT through my wireless headset and it seems that it doesn't wanna play it right. it plays through the speaker even though the phone shows its connected to the BT headset.

anyone else has this issue ?

Thank you.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Almost every build still has issues with Bluetooth Audio I'm afraid, it is a known problem, and hopefully someone will come up with an answer in time.

I think BT audio works for phone calls, just not for music, but don't have a BT headset to test with, I still prefer wired for my music needs, ( which still has some minor connection issues as it is, wonder if the two are related).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Mikeysm21:
Please slap my wrists if this is an idiotic problem, but I can't seem to install this (through sd card)

I have androidinstall, haret, default.txt, intrid, zImage and a basefiles read me in my andboot folder in the root of my card. I then click haret and the error message says 'Cannot open script file \StorageCard\andboot\default.txt'

I have no idea what i'm doing wrong so if anybody could point me in the right direction that would be really handy. Sorry about being that classic noob on the forum that doesnt know what from what!

Thanks in advance,
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
What Haret is looking for is a file called default.txt, in the andboot folder of the SD card.

There are a few possible reasons why it cannot find that file, the most common is that it is wrongly named default.txt.txt which can happen if you edit it in notepad with file extensions hidden in windows, since notepad appends file names with a .txt extension, even if you save it as default.txt.

Another less obvious reason is that windows mobile has the wrong name for SD card, it is looking for the file in the path \StorageCard\andboot which may be called something slightly different for various reason, ( which I cannot recall right now ).

It may even be something silly like a misspelling of andBoot or defualt.txt, ( yeah I know, that would probably stand out, but you never know).

Basically Haret cannot find the default.txt for whatever reason.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] wallsg:
SDHC

Is SDHC supported or only SD?

Edit:

Seems to support both but had enough issues with WinMo trying to have Android coexist with WinMo stuff on the same SDHC card that I dropped back to the 2 GB SD card I bought for this.

Better question... CompCache. Wazzup with that? Do I want it or not? The threads I found are too dense with info for me to wade through to just play with Android on my Kaiser.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Mikeysm21:
Stuck.. again.

I renamed the txt as you said which worked great, then booted Haret, the loading bar went full, but after about 30 minutes of waiting, it has done nothing. It says 'HaRET: Booting Linux ...' with the load bar full. My screen is frozen that way and not even the hardware buttons are responding.

Any ideas what I should do?

Fix!

Stupidly I renamed the wrong device default which was pretty idiotic, i'm now operational, althought I've just realised that i've installed Warm Donut instead of Polymod, haha!

I'll be sure to actually try this version soon.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Normally this happens when the kaiser is running WM6.0, it must be upgraded to WM6.1 or haret will freeze.

One of the best ways to do this would be to flash an updated stock rom from your service provider, or perhaps a generic one if your kaiser will accept it, however be aware that this will wipe your data and reset to factory defaults, so you would be best to backup your contacts and data before taking this step.

If you are already running 6.1 then you may have an issue with the SD card itself, ensure it is formatted Fat32 since some cards are initially formatted Fat16, (usually called Fat).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Hyperfly:
Changing wi-fi module doesn't help. Message "Unable to start WIFI" during starting WIFI :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] wallsg:
Just bought a Captivate because I liked what I saw using this on my Kaiser.

Thanks for the support.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ponto:
I have the same problem - any ideas? My camera doesn't work either, start to run app and then gives up!

Otherwise works well so far.....

thanks very much
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Not sure why camera would not be working, if you used the nbh/zImage provided in the download then it should be.

Likewise the resolution issue, if you have kept it at 320x428 and 144 dpi then this also should not be an issue.

Note that changing the resolution to 240x320 will mean you will need to change the dpi ( rogue tools is excellent for this ).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ponto:
Just tried again with the Final-dark version - renamed default-kaiser.txt to default.txt - ran Haret then install then quit

still no camera -

"Sorry! The application Camera (process com.android.camera) has stopped unexpectedly"

and the phone still appears cropped
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] unholder:
Does this work for HTC touch Diamond?

can any1 help me, im am not pro at mobile phones...

this is my first time installing an OS on my phone,

does this work for HTC touch Diamond!?

I can`t wait till I install this, I`v seen Android on HTC hero, it was COOL!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] unholder:
my phone freezes on HaRet Run!!!

can you help me?

when I tap the HaRet.exe on my phone the select Run, the progress bar comes up and fills, but then the phone freezes!

I have a HTC touch Diamond
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
There are a number of threads on android on diamond in the diamond rom development sectio of the forum, polymod is designed for kaiser and will not work on diamond.

However I do know it is possible to run android on diamond, so it will work, just not this build :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] valderramas:
I just notice something, youtube app is not the problem, anytime I try to play a 3gp video on any app, I just can hear sound but no video, if I pause and then hit play again, screen refresh to the frame where the video was paused.

So, in conclusion, seems that 3gp decoder is not handling the video as it should.

Guys I am a very happy Haret Polymod user on my Kaiser.

Keep on going
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] elander:
HI Zenity, thanks for your work on this, I kinda ignored eclair as my first time with android was with froyo, then for stability issues I tried donut and I kinda went back and forth without mindind to stop and try eclair, anyways I finally gave it a go, mainly because I´ve seen you posting in a few threads and I know you know what you´re doing, lol, but the thing is that my first impression with eclair is that it´s been a little slower than froyo (not to mention "super speedy" donut) and since everybody seems to love this build I wonder if I did something wrong while installing this, as I sense this could be faster and also I realize that the default ringtones are missing, (or did you take them out for space issues?), so I´m staying with eclair for a bit, (till nj2rt gets a new 1350mah battery then i´ll start testing his modified kernels again). so I need advices on how to get this to work faster, or if a complete reinstall is adviced Anyways thanks for this, keep up such a good job on android in general.

ps: I left the phone alone for about 17 mins when I installed it. so I guess it took its time to finish its "odexing party", jeje.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Just checked both final and final-dark versions, both have all the standard ringtones, so I'm wondering if there was an issue during the install.

This could also explain why you find it slower than froyo, since it is usually a bit faster, but still slower than Donut builds.

To be honest unless you need something specific from a customised kernel, I'd recommend running it on the one I included, since that kernel seems to be the most compatible one I have tried.

I would try either a redownload and reinstall, or simply a reinstall, see if the ringtones reappear.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] MTom:
Hi

I tried several variants android

the Caller ID does not work

basic configuration of network settings, but it is not good

if you want to set up an error message is incorrect sim, and it is no longer a network

something that is not a solution?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] elander:
Thanks for answering my question Zenity, extremely helpful as always, I downloaded vanilijeclair in order to try it, but before I'll reinstall this again, because I know I haven't seen the best of this. I'll tell you about my "first impression" after reinstall this. thanks again. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Kallt's eclair is an excellent build, I highly recommend trying it, it is a Cyanogen base, rather than the OpenEclair base that Polymod uses, so there are a few differences under the hood.

@Mtom: caller ID has long been a problem with Android, and as far as I am aware is usually a service provider issue, I think you have to have it enabled by your provider rather than in android. ( not had much experience with caller ID, since the only people that phone me are in my contacts anyway ).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] qqdawg:
Zenity,

quick question for you.

I'm running Polymod 2.1D Final on SD (using HaRET method) and notice the following problems:

1. occasional system freeze. (which I pull battery and reset phone back to Winmo 6.5)

2. occasional system hang (no response from keys or screen for a few minutes, have to slide keyboard to *awake*, this happens in adding short cuts/widgets to the desktop screens or while downloading apps in *Market*)

3. every time I want to use the camera, system respond "force to close" error message.

any idea what I may be doing wrong here? I have already format the MicroSD card twice and re-install twice end up with the same results.

Thanks :o
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Haret seems to give camera issues for some strange reason, at least on this build, don't think it's anything you are doing, I'll try to look into this, hopefully I can get something done about it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] qqdawg:
Zenity, thanks for your help.:D

one last dumb question: Is pulling the battery or inserting a stylus into the reset hole are the only way to reboot the phone while running Android using HaRET? :o
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pwnd:
Zenit thanks for making this build.

I'm trying to install Android (*.*final.zip) the Haret way. I followed your steps.

Rom version: 3.13.404.0.NLD (NLD stands for The Netherlands - Dutch)

Rom date: 08/24/08

Radioversion: 1.59.42.15

Protocolversion: 25.85.30.07H

I have a FAT32 SD card called "Opslagkaart" (this is Dutch language for StorageCard). In Opslagkaart I have the folder andboot. I didn't copy KAISimg.nbh to my Opslagkaart btw.

I renamed default-polaris to default.txt (I didn't change any textlines). I saved the default in the map andboot btw.

When I start Haret I get a black screen and my HTC doesn't do anything. I did a reset by removing the battery.

I then changed the name default.txt back to default-polaris.txt and tried the default-kaiser by changing the name and run Haret again. This time I got red and green pixels on my screen and my HTC shut down to black screen. I had to change the battery again to get Windows Mobile 6.1 going.

Should I try default-vogue? Or is this problem occuring because my SD card is called Opslagkaart instead of StorageCard?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pwnd:
Just tried the default-vogue. No succes either. Black screen and HTC that does nothing.

What am I doing wrong?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] qqdawg:
Save this following text as default.txt:

#alloctest 0x2000

set RAMSIZE 0x07300000

set RAMADDR 0x10000000

set FBDURINGBOOT 0

set MTYPE 1553

set KERNEL zImage

set initrd initrd.gz

#

# The following kernel parameters are useful

# ppp.nostart	- Set ppp.nostart=1 to disable starting the ppp connection on boot

# msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax - The maximum frequency (in Hz) used by the SD controller

# pm.sleep_mode - The mode used when the phone is off

# 0=Power Collapse Suspend, 1=Power Collapse, 2=Apps Sleep,

# 3=Slow Clock and Wait for Interrupt 4=Wait for Interrupt

# Default is 1, use 1 for best power savings

# board-htckaiser.panel_type - Panel type used to power the panel off and on

# 0=Don't power off the panel (Default)

# 1=Sony 2=Topoly 3=Topoly (probably just the same as 2)

# lcd.density - Defaults to 160, 128 shows more on screen

# hw3d.version	- 0=Donut, 1=Eclair

# board-kaiser-keypad.atttilt- 0=US, 1=AT&T Tilt, 2=Nordic, 3=azerty, 4=qwertz

#

set cmdline "ppp.nostart=0 pm.sleep_mode=1 mddi.width=320 mddi.height=428 no_console_suspend board-htckaiser.panel_type=2 board-kaiser-keypad.atttilt=0 hw3d.version=1"

boot

This is my default.txt which I used to run with HaRET.

Good luck and have fun :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
I actually suspect it may be the SD card name, I remember that being a problem in the dim and distant past ( february-march, lol), it may also explain a number of odd issues with haret that come up now and then, although I'm not sure how to fix it other than flashing a WWE WM rom and trying that.

( I didn't really make much of this build, the Credit belongs to Polyrhythmic, all I do is try to keep it up to date/stable :) ).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] harunguclu:
which rom is the best with this android 2.1?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] qqdawg:
That would be a very subjective answer.

Personally, I have try Ploymod 2.1D, SuperEClair, and VijiEclair. all 3 are pretty stable.

The best Android v2.1 IS/WILL BE the one that you keep on using. I suggest you try all the builds out and stay with the flavor you like.

Have fun.:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] harunguclu:
I have a flu screen! icons and writings (letters) are not cear. quite blury. I think the resolution is low or high or whatever. is there any one experiencing this issue?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pwnd:
@qqdawg

qqdawg thanks for replying. I used your text as default.txt. I saw a fex red and white pixels after running haret and my HTC hung.

Could the problem be the name of my SD card? Problem is I can't seem to change it (not in Windows 7 via Windows Mobile Device Center.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pwnd:
Thanks Zenity for posting.

If I try to change the name of my storagecard within explorer on my HTC I get a error message error while trying to change the name.

Could this be because programs like TomTom navigator are installed on the opslagkaart who are reffering to the name Opslagkaart for my opslagkaart?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Adler87:
I just tried this build after a few months of winMo...

Problem I'm having is that at first everything works fine... Then whenever I turn off the screen, it will not turn back on. It comes on to a bright white screen. It is not frozen it seems, I just cant see anything! I have tried changing the board-htckaiser.panel_type from 1 to 2... nothing!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] MtMan900:
I don't know if you've found the solution since then, but I figured I'd let you know I'm running into the same problems.

When trying to run the camera from my AT&T Kaiser on HaRET I get the following Exception in the Exception Browser:

java.lang.RuntimeException: setPreviewDisplay failed

That's the only exception that comes up. I hope this helps you in finding this elusive bug; otherwise, this build has been exactly what I need.