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[XPERIA X10 General] damirbusic:
iPod playing music in background on iPhone is there from the begining, and someone has said that you should turn off the music so you can read SMS, that it a lie !

1.) HTC Desire and Galaxy S are on Froyo + Galaxy has better CPU. Browser is not as fast on X10 like on Desire, I have them both, on Froyo it goes faster. So yea, Desire and Galaxy S are faster than iPhone 4, X10 is not.

2.) Because Galaxy S is the baddest Android phone, and it has HD recordings, how can I compare this TRASH WVGA video that we have and HD video that iPhone has ? This WVGA video that we have now is unusable in 50% of situations, when I see those squares I just delete video, no matter how important it was, it is a disgrace. No one on earth is comparing X10 and iPhone 4 because they are not in the same basket, I really hope that X10 has better photos than iPhone in same conditions, but I am not so sure.

3.) If X10 will have Vivaz photos and HD videos but I hope at 30 fps, not 24 fps like Vivaz than it would be great.

4.) the only advantage is resolution, pixels are not visible to the eye, better colors, X10 has normal TFT display, iPhone has the latest retina LED backlit screen that, again, is only comparable to the SAMOLED display as it is the best display today. No one is comparing RETINA display with anything except SAMOLED, which is better for me than retina because Ive had AMOLED, his colors are oversaturated but I like it that way on the phone.

Look at this perfection:

http://gizmodo.com/5571937/test-notes-iphone-screen

I hate Apple but hands down this can only be beaten by SAMOLED.

5.) I dont know if it will have Froyo, I really think that we would need new SE phone to have Froyo and Gingerbread.
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
:D:p:cool:
[XPERIA X10 General] naplesbill:
The fact that the X10 has 1.6 does not change much at all as to what it can do at the moment. The changes that 2.1 will bring will only be apparent to the small portion of users that have found something that needs it. I am not saying I don't care about 2.1, just that it wasn't a deal breaker at this time. I debranded and rooted my device within an hour of purchasing it. I will load the first custom rom that is stable as well. My point is that I am not the typical or majority user. The point is that the OS version is not what makes a phone great. Just look at the Captivate for that evidence.

If by 10.1 you mean Flash then 2.2 will support it just fine. Not sure where you get the 2.3 requirement from.

You will be waiting a long time for a lot of sites to have HTML5 so yes you will be waiting. Flash is far more prominent and that all has to do with being able to protect content. There are several big content providers who have already said they will not switch to HTML5 anytime soon.
[XPERIA X10 General] naplesbill:
The Galaxy S is NOT on Froyo yet either. Late Q3 or Q4 for that. The Desire is using the same processor as the X10 so after the 2.1 update, the performance landscape will change for certain.

The display on the Galaxy S is nice but the OS build is crap so what good is it? I have little faith in Samsung providing adequate support for any of their devices.

The X10 WILL HAVE 720 HD video. This has already been stated by SE.

All of this arguing over Retina and Samoled is so overblown anyway. You won't really notice much difference at all unless you typically look at your phone within two inches of your eyes.
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
I agree with you completely. Point is the 1.6 and 2.1 both miss the mark if you ask me.

Since switching to HTML5 I have let my thoughts about the flash requirments slip. I think you are right 2.2, but with an os revision of 2.1 in the works for the X10 it might as well require 3.0

In any case X10 owners are still problem solving and waiting. And, with my new 4 I am just living the dream brother :cool:

And, to who ever that was making a comparison of X10 display to retina, you are smoking crack. This retina display is beyound incredible. Iphone is the winner hands down :D

Also, those controled environment pic's of the X10 look great. I loved my X10's camera. I love the 4's HD camera even more. Iphone wins this hand down. but who knows once that update comes maybe the X10 will be able to edge this one out. When ever that update comes that is. I will probably own a new phone by than.
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
Call us for pay back once your phone has it. In the mean time......:p

Two inches from your face,,, I read that to. I own both phones and know that is not true. This display on the 4 ROCKS!!!! :D
[XPERIA X10 General] damirbusic:
Dont know about retina but ive had AMOLED on my OmniaHD and black color that it produces is amazing, it looks like the screen on black places is completely off. Can someone compare X10 screen with retina from iPhone, colors etc. on same photos, not resolution and that non important thing. 3,5" is a dealbreaker for iPhone, it is too small after having X10.
[XPERIA X10 General] guney:
You'll have to keep in mind that, even if you can get your hands on a comparison shot like that, you won't be seeing any distinction in color, contrast, or black-level in it unless the display of the device on which you're viewing the comparison shot meets or exceeds the better device in the image in terms of all of those variables. (E.g., if X10 has a black level of "3" and the iPhone 4 has a "2" and you're viewing these on your computer monitor which has a black level "4", what you'll be seeing is that both devices are a "4"...)
[XPERIA X10 General] andy8271:
why even compare x10 with iphone4

my x10 cost £300 in release week

3 months later and the iphone 4 would cost me £550
[XPERIA X10 General] piercewei:
Really? As fas as I know, the multitasking of Iphone 4 is still very limited. It is totally different from Android.
[XPERIA X10 General] piercewei:
@damirbusic, for face recognition function, please try to understand what it is before making any rediculous comment on it. Or you just get teased.

I saw your efforts to pile up facts. But never take something for granted if you dont have the right perception.
[XPERIA X10 General] Sibix1:
I must admit that the 1.6 is a big dealbreaker for me too. Don't get why SE with the other flagship Android mobiles running 2.1 and 2.2 didn't go freaking bezerk on developing 2.1 and 2.2 for this. They can't be selling that many with Desire and Galaxy S being out now. Maybe the occasional person who doesn't do a comparison before laying down this amount of money for a phone will buy the X10, and that is pretty rare since X10 is the least popular of thoose 3 phones.

All SE is getting now is less sales and alot of people who bought X10 is not gonna jump on their next Android flagship, and probably recommend people not to purchase SE Android based phones because of their lack of commitment to updating them compared to how HTC and Samsung is acting now with their top notch phones.
[XPERIA X10 General] naplesbill:
You just made a lot of claims about popularity and sales. I'd love to see that data, where can I find it?

I feel I got a hell of a lot more for my money with the X10 than the piece that was the Captivate. It takes more than just specs to make a good device. Just look at all the different laptops around for proof of that. The underlying OS version is not the most important factor for most people. It's the people who have to be me too that are so concerned with this. What exactly is in 2.1 or 2.2 that will make life better for you?
[XPERIA X10 General] Gentimp:
Can't wait to see this HD Recording they are talking about. The flash support also seems interesting. (if you know how to)

I wonder if they would do something special regarding the PS3. I really need a remote for it, but I think the official remote is a bit too expensive.

It would be weird if nothing extra is added since it is taking so long...
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
And, what about EVO? There are now plenty of phones that offer more for the money than X10.

I would like to comment to the people who mention the 3.5 inch screen of the iphone being a deal breaker. The hardest part is not that the iphone has a 3.5 inch screen. It is that the device is nearly the same lenght and width as the X10 and Apple only manage to put a 3.5 inch display in it. That void space is a short coming to be sure. So I could certainly appreciate there are people who will decide on another phone for this point alone. I also prefer the 4" to the 3.5". Actually if I could have something perfect for me it would be a 3.75" display. And, a screen that comes to the edge of the device on all sides.

However, I would rather deal with that void short coming on the Apple than 1.6 or 2.1 on the X10. I know something will be cooked to eventually allow flash but the average customer will not know anything about it, and I am tired of having to engineer SE's short falls. It just takes too much time and I have better things to do. With the Iphone there is nothing to cook and, nothing to wait for. It is HTML5 out of the box!
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
Yeah, I couldn't wait either! And, with the Iphone you don't have to wait or cook anything. It is already HD and supports HTML5 out of the box :p

Compare what the phones have right now. Cause there will be plenty more on the market by the time this update is finally released. And, it will still be behind the EVO and Iphone when ever that update does come.
[XPERIA X10 General] phoneguy 4567:
I am fascinated that people feel the need to come to the X10 area & tell others how great their new phone is & how crappy the X10 is in comparison. The X10 is far from perfect but no phone is. The IPhone has problems like being locked, & having to constantly play a cat & mouse game with Apple to find ways to unlock it. Signal has never been great with the IPhone & with IPhone 4 that tradition continues. Then there is the lack of a removable battery which is a deal breaker for many.

See it's easy to find problems with phones like others have with the X10. One thing I didn't do was go into a IPhone discussion area and tell people there how bad their device is. IMO doing that is pointless, & looks like the person doing it needs reassurance that they've made the right buying choice.
[XPERIA X10 General] xGary:
I hope it comes before school in two weeks. But probably not =(
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
Yeah.... about that.

The Xperia is the second best selling smartphone of all time in Japan. The Desire? One of the largest smartphone flops ever. Handsets with Windows Mobile 6.5 are outselling the Desire.

Remember, the only people a version number matters to is a nerd with a small penis. Consumers buy what they want, based on looks and functionality at the time of purchase.
[XPERIA X10 General] damirbusic:
Why do I need to understand it ? I am not the developer of it but the end user, I just say that this feature is not working right because X10 every now and then forgets all the tags that I have made and to be honest, it is pretty useless feature, who wants to have those big + signs with names on their photos ? I know ALL of the names of the person that I take photo of, if it transfers tags on a PC then it will be great feature, now it is purely for fun. And I know that it is hard to develop thing like that but I think that they should develop something little more useful...
[XPERIA X10 General] Sibix1:
2.1 would make my phone better because it's alot faster than the 1.6, it would finally feel like a $600 phone. It would be like going from a Samsung Corby to an X10 :p I just don't feel like i got as much out of my $600 as my friends with Galaxy S or Desire did at the moment, and i don't really know what greatness the X10 has to offer apart from being choppy at best. I know that most don't care about the OS versions, but that is because they don't know what they are missing, and ignorance is not an excuse :p
[XPERIA X10 General] naplesbill:
I certainly agree it should make the phone faster. But, my device is already faster than the Captivate was. The Captivate is already running 2.1. This just proves that it takes more than just specs and version numbers to make a good device. I believe Sony will make 2.1 worth the wait.
[XPERIA X10 General] Sibix1:
It's not the version number, it speeds the phone up a great bit. Sure you can sell a consumer an X10 if they are looking to buy a phone at that price, but it's gonna be a piece of cake getting them over on a Galaxy S by elaborating on what the difference between 1.6 and 2.2 is. If you can't trumph the 8.1 megapixel with photolight, mediascape and timescape with speed and MT, then i dunno.
[XPERIA X10 General] Sibix1:
Dunno why the Captivate would run slower than X10, since the Galaxy S runs that much faster :-/ But i have only compared it to the Desire and Galaxy S and they both made me wish for 2.1 sooner rather than later.

And of course it's gonna rock when SE finally releases it for the X10, but having seen the 2 other devices with it makes the wait a bit annoying, and making the phone feel subpar. It's like buying parts to speed up a computer, and having to wait months for the delivery :p
[XPERIA X10 General] chongbh:
I bought X10 because the technical specs are so much better than those android phones in the market.

For software support, I am waiting for 2.1 as well but no hurry at the moment as android 1.6 is working fine for me.

Importantly, a phone must serve its main purpose : calls, sms are most important for me. The in-call volume might be a little soft but not so bad for me.

I did notice that the Bluetooth connection for my car head unit is better and louder than my HTC device, not sure why?

Just my sharing.
[XPERIA X10 General] naplesbill:
The Captivate seems fast when you first use it. Then the bugs start showing up. Lag, pausing, and then restarting and shutting down. I am not new to Android at all and I have never seen so many problems. This was on two seperate devices. Perusing online forums shows the same issues crop up on all Galaxy S devices. Apparently Samsung is not too great at Android builds.

I will gladly wait for a solid build vs the crap from Samsung.
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
I don't know where you're based, but, on contract in the US, the Xperia is $130. In Japan, it's $300. The Galaxy S phones are $200-$250 on contract in the US, or $500 in Japan. (Both phones can be had for free in the US, if you're a smart shopper. My point is, the price of the phone doesn't matter.)

There isn't a big difference between 1.6 and 2.1, other than a few apps need kernel calls in 2.1+. There's supposedly a speed bump between 2.1 and 2.2, but I'll believe it when I see it.

In the meantime, my Xperia runs as advertised. Once the update is released, I'll be happy to have an even better device. Until then, it seems counter productive to lust over something so insignificant.
[XPERIA X10 General] ptesmoke:
the best part about this thread is the APPLE fan boys who are faithfully following a sony x10 thread. i love it!

then there's the guy who doesnt even have a clue what face recognition is, but gotta give jobs the props for the brainwashing, it sure worked on that silly little fella!!

i must say tho the only people ive seen so far with a crapple 4 is this group of koreans at work, and theyre always playing this cake game where you throw cake across the screen at each other. :rolleyes: but i guess thats the fan base apple carries. :D

personally being the owner of many droids, many wm devices, and every symbian/proprietary OS pretty much out there. (and yes i a borrowed a friends crapple 4 for a day, couldnt wait to give it back) i can safely say droid is by far the OS of the future hands down. symbian for the longest time looked like it was going to be the be all end all. but they choked at the finish line. then microsoft announced wp7, which had potential , but imo failed like wm 6.5 failed.

but at the end of the day its all just matter of opinion, and of course people will argue with your opinion because most posters on here are probably 14-17 yr olds that would defend their little $500 investment to the end of time.

i myself am happy with the x10, being a 1.6 build, sony did a fantastic job not only customizing it but polishing it up to compete with most 2.1 devices! people seem to forget most 1.6 devices didnt even have bluetooth when it came out!

/endrant
[XPERIA X10 General] naplesbill:
You make some good points but I would like to point out one thing. Only 25% of the mobile user base is using smartphones. This statistic is as of Q2 2010. This means that it's still anyones game if they bring the right product(s) to market. I wouldn't count Microsoft (WP7) or HP (WebOS) out at all yet. The next year will be the most telling.
[XPERIA X10 General] ptesmoke:
i agree with that, i just have my doubts about wp7 , after being a dedicated winmo user for so long its hard to see it getting better. microsoft will either knock wp7 out of the park or fail like every version of wm to date. and webOs is great, but i dont see it beating droid.

like i said though its all a matter of personal preference, but boy am i glad droid came along. and its come leaps and bounds in so short a time.
[XPERIA X10 General] phoneguy 4567:
From what I understand WP7 is not a update to WinMo but a new OS so it shouldn't be judged on previous WinMo releases IMO. The fact that Android has been able to be so strong in such a short time is a good sign for MS & WP7's chances in the marketplace.
[XPERIA X10 General] 2twiztid:
Microsoft say that about ALL their products until they are found out to be using old code.

Not to mention half the code in their 'hallmark' programs (Office, Windows, etc) either:

1) Isn't even theirs.

2) Has no actual use to the program

Microsoft saying something is brand new is like McDonalds saying they have a new burger, charging $7.95 for it when the only difference is the friggen tomato on it.
[XPERIA X10 General] phoneguy 4567:
It will still be a new OS regardless of them reusing some code. I don't think there is any platform out there that uses 100% new code, not even Android. If a company buys another company & uses code developed by that company, or licenses code that's fine.
[XPERIA X10 General] naplesbill:
So, what code isn't "theirs" and how do you define that?

Your comment is utterly ridiculous anyway. Without Microsoft we would all be stuck with Steve Jobs "vision" of running our lives and linking your checkbook to Apple.

The base code for WP7 is still in the Family but it's from the base code that the ZuneHD is built from, not WM6.5. These are facts and not some made up marketing BS. There has been a beta SDK out for quite some time and it's clear where the code base came from.
[XPERIA X10 General] mrtim123:
umm...no? heard of open source? linux?

not trying to attack, but just pointing out that its not a 2 horse race.
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
But see, by continuously calling the iPhone 4 the "crapple 4", you've effectively reduced your own argument to the level of the "14-17 year olds" you attempt to deride.

The key to intelligent discussion is not to lower yourself to the opponent's level. If you're so blind/brainwashed to see that even the iPhone 4 has some excellent points to it, I question your maturity. It's ok to like one thing and be happy with it and not **** on everything else as "crap".
[XPERIA X10 General] tigger69:
I had a iphone 3g 16gb, which was running 3.1.3 fine. I then updated it to 4.0.1, which made the phone laggy and to me unusable. I swapped the iphone for the x10i, and i dont regret it at all. I had the iphone jailbroken on 3.1.3 and it was pretty nippy, but to make it actually do what most other smartphones do natively i had to jailbreak it. you have to get a app when its jailbroken to use bluetooth file transfer and personally i find this very useful to send/recieve pics/mp3's etc to/from friends.

I had a go on a iphone 4 and it is pretty nice, but unless its jailbroken its just a phone with a lot of apps on the store, which a lot of people actually buy it for. Thats not enuff for me, to me the iphone feels like a phone, and the x10 feels like a pocket computer.
[XPERIA X10 General] naplesbill:
When it really counted there wasnt any viable version of linux. Microsoft brought unified app interfaces and copy/paste functionality to the masses first. Simple history.
[XPERIA X10 General] 2twiztid:
That is quite true. However, you wouldn't buy a refurbished product as a 'new' one.

100% new would cost too much money, but recycling lots isn't the answer.

On the contrary, it's your comment that is ridiculous.

1:

Look in the news for your first paragraph. Any body that reads about technology or anything of the like knows that microsoft has violated many, many patents in the creation of their products. There is even a current court order stating they aren't even supposed to sell Office 07 anymore due to them.

2:

Everybody knows that the original Windows platform was bought off a uni student and it was a derivative of *nix.

3:

Read above and figure out why we wouldn't be handing our money to Steve Jobs. Microsoft hads Windows because it had (And still has) the money to develop it further. For all we know is some other company could have stumbled upon said Uni student and Windows could have died with them.

I'm not against MS, I'm just voicing an opinion. Surely you all aren't all going to start attacking one another for voicing.
[XPERIA X10 General] naplesbill:
Wow, even more bad info. The original Windows was not bought off a student. Do you even know when it was developed and why? You are trying to talk history of PCs with someone who lived through it. Windows started as a ported version of OS/2 Presentation Manager. It was supposed to be a stepping stone to migrate users from DOS to OS/2. That never happened and the rest is history.

A lot of companies violate patents either directly or indirectly. This does not qualify the statement you made about "their code." The violated patent has to do with a file format called XML. That is hardly what you are claiming.

If you are going to make outlandish claims you should verify your facts first.
[XPERIA X10 General] phoneguy 4567:
@ 2twiztid

So your saying it's understandable that 100% new code is not viable for MS & by extension I would say for any other company. That being the case they are not selling something new but refurbished, wouldn't your logic have to apply to every company out there?

The amount of recycled code bothers you so how much is too much? How much of WP7 is recycled code & how much is not?

Saying you're not against MS it actually makes me think that you may be, more then if you didn't say it in the first place. Like Google saying do no evil LOL.

I am not planning to get a WP7 phone but I would not call it old or recycled, & I would not write it off before it hits the market.
[Streak 5 Android Development] moneytoo:
Type these codes in phone dialer:

*#*#307#*#* Enable engineering apps in launcher

*#*#308#*#* Disable engineering apps in launcher

(... and reboot - depends on your launcher)

Froyo Notes:

The codes work on Android 2.2, however you have to change property "ro.build.CONFIG_BUILDTYPE_SHIP" in /system/build.prop from 1 to 0.

Apps will appear in launcher

Calibrator

CDMA NAM Programming

Dev Tools

EMList

Log Master

Neocore

OOD_OOM

Qualcomm Settings

QVTester-04

Spare Parts

VerificationSuite

so try EMList or Neocore ...
[Streak 5 Android Development] smokku:
Works on 1.6 4399 too.
[Streak 5 Android Development] ronj1986:
When I do this it only shows the setting for a split second,then goes back to the dealer. Any idea why?
[Streak 5 Android Development] moneytoo:
ronj1986:

Type the code (*#*#307#*#*) and reboot. Apps will appear in the list among others.
[Streak 5 Android Development] ronj1986:
Hey thanks moneytoo!!! Using this menu, I now have the option to install unknown sources. I have posted a thread detailing the steps if you haven't set it up on your device already.
[Streak 5 Android Development] lufc:
works on uk unlocked dell with 2.1 thanks :)
[Streak 5 Android Development] fone_fanatic:
Goodstuff!

Added to wiki under Tips & Tweaks!