yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Droid Incredible Accessories] Grikshanks:
picked one up over the weekend, thanks for the link. Came preformatted to fat32 so didnt even need to bother with that at all.

for people bothered with class, pulled from a post in the link earlier:

CLASS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH READ SPEEDS, ONLY WRITE SPEEDS. and even then, its not that big of a difference since it only defines the MINIMUM write speed, which means even a class 2 can go as fast as a class 6 at times. so unless youre loading gBs of data at a time onto the card on a regular basis, you dont need anything bigger than a 2. playing music from the card has nothing to do with what class it is. or playing apps, or looking through photos, or ANYTHING OTHER THAN PUTTING LARGE FILES ONTO THE CARD.
[Droid Incredible Accessories] RAWRmike:
Not a big deal at the moment but once we get 720p vid recording, having a class 2 could and probably will affect the quality of recordings to some extent. But hes right, if your only interested in storing files on it, this is a nice find.
[Droid Incredible Accessories] seanhassars:
What I want to know is how you guys are getting them to apply your discount.
[Droid Incredible Accessories] dougbillings:
Doing a Live Chat with a VZW rep about this issue now ... below is what she says. I will update with results.

Chasity: I recommend you go ahead and purchase the item. Once your order is confirmed, you can contact our Customer Care department at 1-800-922-0204 to have the discount added to your order.

Chasity: You will need your 9 digit confirmation number.

UPDATE: Ended up processing order over the phone with rep ... total came to $80 with free overnight shipping BOOYAAAH!!!!! (yah ... I said it ... )

UPDATE2: Got mine via FEDEX today! Thanks OP for the heads up on this great deal!
[Droid Incredible Accessories] jdmba:
Called

I called customer support for a refund in the amount of my corporate discount ($25); which they are processing.
[Droid Incredible Accessories] eabruzzese:
Actually, I think you may be wrong here.

http: //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital#Speeds

A class 2 has a ~16Mbps write speed. The average 720p video bitrate is ~3.4-5Mbps. You could easily record 1080p video on a class 2 without a hitch.
[Droid Incredible Accessories] seanhassars:
that must be where I went wrong. I called without ordering to see if there was a way they could apply the discount manually, and they said there's no discount available because it's a special online only price.
[Droid Incredible Accessories] ToyTank:
Where are you looking?

EDIT: Eabruzzese is correct. Did not notice the lower case "b" for bits not bytes.

Speed Class Rating

The Speed Class Rating is the official unit of speed measurement for SD Cards, defined by the SD Association. It is equal to 1 MB/s (8 Mbit/s), and it measures the minimum sustained write speeds for a fragmented state

The following are the ratings of some currently available cards:

Class 2: 2 MB/s

Class 4: 4 MB/s

Class 6: 6 MB/s

Class 10: 10 MB/s

I had to call customer care to get my 25% off. Not happy about that. Always been automated when I log in. This is PERFECT for music.
[Droid Incredible Accessories] shmengie:
well, i'm not bragging or anything, but i got got TWO kingston 32gb micro sd's off of ebay for $52, total. the seller's name is sky.huchun, and he's pretty awesome: the shipping was super fast and the items arrived in original packaging.
[Droid Incredible Accessories] ToyTank:
Hope you got good flash. He is listed as a FAKE flash seller

LOOK HERE

If real that is SWEET deal. Could you run H2TESTW on it and let me know the results?
[Droid Incredible Accessories] UgXvibe:
Good info Tank.. I had no idea this was going on.. I'll stick to Newegg for my memory purchases.
[Droid Incredible Accessories] shmengie:
well, i got about 30 minutes into the test, but i gotta bail, as there's still another hour or so left. i'll let it run tonight when i get home. looks good so far, though...

edit: i don't know if this makes a difference to y'all, but even without running the hw test, i can tell you that the one i've opened is working perfectly in my dinc. read/write is all good, and all 32gb shows up...
[Droid Incredible Accessories] PeanyTech:
I went into a VZW Corporate owned store and they gave me the $99 deal right there, plus my 25% discount. Walked out with it for $81 and change with tax.
[Droid Incredible Accessories] ToyTank:
Thanks for taking the time. I'm not sure how they do it, but my understaning is they use a 4gb and somehow ghost over it to make it appear as a 32 or whatever. It even functions fine for a while. That test will show if it is a real 32 or ghost 32, just takes a while to run for sure. When done it will say likely good or likely fake, or whatever that is in german.

Seems to be a real big problem, as big as the fake 1500mah replacement batteries I got. They are maybe 600mah:mad: came from austintexwireless. Bad batteries, but fast refund:rolleyes:
[Droid Incredible Accessories] Matt Devo:
eabruzzese quoted speeds in Mb/s, not MB/s. 2MB/s = 16Mb/s
[Droid Incredible Accessories] PeanyTech:
The 32GB MicroSDHC Class 2 i got from Verizon... started off at 8 MB/s or so, then slowed down to about 4-5 MB/s in H2testw. It replaced a 16GB MicroSD HC Class 6 from AData, which got about 7-8 MB/s in H2testw. YMMV.
[Droid Incredible Accessories] shmengie:
huh, looks like i been had. what's that saying about if something is too good to be true...?

well, i'm off to the ebay resolution center...

edit: oh, and thanks for being gentle with me, and not making me feel like an a-hole. which i kinda do...
[Droid Incredible Accessories] ToyTank:
Sorry you been had. Throw the word counterfeit in your complaint. Paypal or ebay should have you covered. They are sneaky though right, everything looked legit until you tested it.

Your Kung-Fu is strong. I missed that detail. I need to look further into it. I'm still not sure class 2 is enough for TRUE 720P

Edit: Just got my card from vzw today, benchmarked with "sd card speed test" from the market and it is showing as a class 6. I know this really doesn't mean anything, as class is minimum write of a completely fragmented file, but I am happy.
[Droid Incredible Accessories] shmengie:
yup. as a matter of fact, it's almost like it was the testing itself that broke it. either way, i opened a case, and the seller, sky.huchun, has offered me my money back. let's see how it plays out.

ultimately, thank god it was only $50!

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Now playing: The Cure - A Forest

via FoxyTunes
[Droid Incredible Accessories] ToyTank:
It would have kept "looking" like a 32, but when the actually capacity was reached, it would start rewriting your data. You'd loss that valuable back up or photo...And the way feedback works on ebay I think is kinda broken.
[Droid Incredible Accessories] shmengie:
okay, i've returned to mr. sky.huchun for a full refund. let's see if it happens. in the meantime, i pulled the trigger on the verizon deal, taking advantage of our corporate discount ($82 w/tax and free shipping).

thx to the op.

edit: you know, if you check compatibility, it says that this sd is not compatible with the incredible. i don't think that's true. anyone have anything to say about it?
[Droid Incredible Accessories] xvenom89:
I wish I had a corporate discount :\
[Droid Incredible Accessories] ToyTank:
I never looked lol Some spec sheets for Dinc said up to 16gb, but it is because 32 micro sdhc JUST NOW became available. 32GB works fine. At least a half dozen people in this thread have it with no issues(myself included)

I remember when I bought my first SD card. $75 for 256M!! Wow what a deal.
[Droid Incredible Accessories] H3Dude:
Works fine for me.
[Droid Incredible Accessories] smtom:
Thanks to all for their input on this topic. I ordered mine online yesterday, it didn't apply the additional corporate discount. I called, the rep said the corporate discount only applied to plans/devices not accessories. Bummer, but I'll still try again and see.

Update: I called the 1-800-922-0204 number and learned a couple things: My corporate discount didn't show up since I ordered from within my company's 'profile' for VZW. BUT, if ordering through your OWN myverizon profile, the credit/discounts are supposed to show up. I did not know that.

ALSO learned about what is called a Bill Incentive Credit - depending on what your company's arrangement is with VZW, certain of those plans with VZW offer a credit for handset upgrades. Long story short, she just gave me a $100 equipment upgrade credit that I didn't know I was eligible to receive! Yee-Haw! I asked if it made any difference whether I had the handset since 4/29, she said no, and she applied the credit immediately. BIG thumbs up (for a change) for VZW!
[Droid Incredible Accessories] Kev8124:
Thank you for posting this. I was looking for one of these on Amazon today but was glad to see VZW carries it now that way I can just charge to the account ....
[Droid Incredible Accessories] kendive:
You can get a name brand SanDisk 32 GB on Amazon for 85 and free shipping.

I tried the online with verizon and it did not apply my 25% off so I just went ahead and got one with amazon... I don't want to have to call verizon after to beg for my 25% off.
[Nexus One General] baronsamedi:
right now i have a class 2 sd card with 500 mb and i wanted to upgrade to the 8gb class 6 card i just bought...

whats the best way to upgrade and keep all my info??

and is there a rom out that can do apps2d yet??
[Nexus One General] evilkorn:
Copy and paste? No "info" is stored on the sdcard unless otherwise noted. There have been roms with apps2sd for a long time.
[Nexus One General] baronsamedi:
i meant does cm6 have aps2sd yet
[Nexus One General] seeking:
yes it does.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] doug3673:
It is now 2nd half of 2010. Apple has released the 4th version of the iPhone. Blackberry has released it's best touch screen device to date, the BB Torch. Android is poised to move into 2nd place and can possibly become market share leader in the coming months. Windows Phone 7 is being polished and will launch within the next 2-3 months.

So where does this leave us Touch Pro 2 owners? Our processors, even when overclocked are not even close to what newer smartphones have under the hood. As much as I've enjoyed using WM 6.5 with HTC Sense and MaxManilla and Cookies HomeTab and MaxSense, I'm beginning to feel like no amount of tweaking and ROM flashing can save our devices. App support for WM 6.1 and 6.5 has come to a grinding halt in my opinion. No one can argue with the fact that all the best apps are now on iPhone and Android.

So I ask my fellow Rhodium owners... when are you going to switch, and what are you going to switch to?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] kingsham:
im moving to android...next year when i get my upgrade...windows mobile...is dead...and it kinda hurts...because when it runs right...its so smooth, but alot of the consumer market wants apps, which WINMO does have...but we dont have the novelty apps like iphones and androids...to me android is like...iphone on steriods with a touch of windows mobile productivity
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] PUTALE:
my contract will be expiring until aug of 2011 so I still got like a year to go until I can upgrade. Based on what I have seen so far, I think I will be moving to android or possibly to iphone 4 because now ATT requires everyone to get a data plan, I am possibly will move to iphone 4 becasue the price will be the same regardless it's a smartphone or iphone.

So far, I am looking at captivate, iphone 4, or xperia. I am leaning toward captivate and ihpone 4 but still have not yet made up my mind.

I like HTC's sense but to be honest, I am pretty much given up on any of the WinMo phones so it's most likely going to be either android or iphone.

The good news I guess for me is that I still got a year to go so I can wait and keep looking around and shopping.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] mr_sheen:
yea, its almost the end for my Rhodium. Im looking at either the Blackberry Torch or any of the WP7 phone. Might try the torch first and let the WP7 matured out first.

But its been nice using the Rhodium, surely its not the quickest but it gets the job done. Im still gonna keep it, one of the best phone that i've use.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] defaultdotxbe:
ill be switching to android, ive never liked the iphone OS and WP7 is just a clone

as for when, i dont know, im not under a contract ATM so ill switch whenever i see an android phone with a nice TP2-like keyboard, preferably on sprint
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] uncleswoop:
android on a htc device most likely. love winmo tho. if they get their act right ill remain loyal.

iphone??? lol, maybe if i get over originality.... new iphone looks like **** compared to my rhod. and i expect it will never be able to catch my attention.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] pooyab:
unfortunately I'll stay on wm 6.5! because UpToDate (a medical reference program) which is MUST TO HAVE for me, is not released for android!

If I could pass this limitation, I'll go for android (probably galaxy s i9000) for sure.

I'm tired of changing rom, searching for tweaks,testing new home screens and themes,etc... to feel like having a 2010-11 smart phone!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] redpoint73:
I'll be staying with my Tilt2 for now. Its not even a year old, and I can't justify a switch at this time. Maybe when/if ATT offers a subsidized flagship Android handset, then I'll think of switching. Especially a device with a slider QWERTY keyboard. Or if an unlocked Android phone really piques my interest (enough to justify paying full price).

Android seems to be carrying on in the spirit of Windows Mobile, offering customization and freedom, completely in contrast to Apple's walled garden. Its still not quite as slick and streamlined as the iPhone, but I have high hopes for Android in the next year or so.

As fluid, user-friendly, and popular as the iPhone may be, I still can't stand its closed architecture. Its annoying that Steve Jobs and Apple fanboys claim the iPhone is "the best" when they are still making big updates to add features which WM has had for years. Everything from tethering to multitask, icon folders, and on previous updates: cut&paste, stereo bluetooth, and so much more. And its still outrageous to me that you can't even activate an iPhone without installing Apple's bloated software package on your home computer.

I had big expectations for the Blackberry Torch and Blackberry OS 6, since there (for some time now) has been the possibility of my work forcing me to switch to a BB device. But it appears the phone has fallen far short of RIMs promises and hype. Blackberry 6 is still years behind Android and Apple. A pretty home page, with most things underlying basically the same as the old Blackberry, and tons of other issues. RIM has proven that they are out of touch with the new smartphone landscape, and will continue to lose market share to the competition. Too bad, with their dominance in the enterprise arena, and reputation for security, they could have stayed THE major player, if they had played their cards right.

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Blackberry-Torch,review-1573.html
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Hanson68:
I've already moved on from the TP2 to the Evo, and Android, not WP7 is the real successor to WinMo. For all the tweaks I made to get my TP2 working smoothly, the Evo trumped it in almost every way out of the box. Aside from voice dial, there isn't anything from WinMo that Android doesn't do better. Much better. I had been using WinMo since the Mogul, and while Android 1.6 isn't all that hot, 2.2 with Sense is both familiar and superior.

And the hardware just smokes the TP2.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] nuwayman:
android is really catching my eye right now. i got a tilt 2 off ebay a couple of months ago and its been fun using it. i also have a pure from at&t as well and i keep switching between the 2 devices. my wife has iphone and as great as it is its not for me. i love to custimise and tweak otherwise i might as well just have a crappy flip phone if i just wanted a phone. i keep eye balling the samsung captivate but im a big htc fan. i keep seeing leaked upcoming phones from htc but not sure if when at&t will get any of those. i am intrigued with wp7 as well. both i and my wife are eligible for upgrades and i use her line to upgrade phones for me as well. i dont want to jump the gun and get the captivate but its getting very tempting to since at&t suck at getting any new smartphones.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] gromky:
Buying a WM Rhodium phone was a big, big mistake in my opinion. I had no idea that a phone could be so slow and unresponsive. As someone who works in manufacturing, I was shocked that a product like this would even be marketed (I consider 5 soft resets a day and slow response as "defective".) I really wish I had gotten Android instead, but I'm stuck with this phone for the next year at the very least. I got burned!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] SpinalRemains:
having to do 5 resets a day is defective.

I am not sure what I will be moving over to yet. Im on Sprint so I may look toward the Samsung Epic. That phone is Android but it does have an actual keyboard. I am sad too because I have become so accustomed to winmo. I love the file explorer, the freedom, the cutting and pasting. Perhaps I will wait to see what windows Phone 7 has to offer, but I think having the keyboard and the freedom to customize is most important.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Marlin29:
You hit the nail squarely on the head here. I considered (and still am) an Android based phone but I like the "easy button" convenience of ActiveSync. I've owned all three iterations of the Blackjack and this is my first HTC product and I have to say that I am enjoying it completely. The price disparity between the Jack and the Tilt 2 was the only thing that kept me from buying it right off the bat. Having said that, some of the features that got broken with the WM6.5 update are unacceptable. Threaded messaging worked perfectly before I updated my Jack, not so much afterward, and I hope the new official ROM update for the Tilt 2 addresses this and other issues. It was a relief to find out that it was either a Microsoft or ATT software engineer that effed things up, and not a Samsung issue as I originally assumed.

I also considered the iphone, as when i got the Jack the 3GS model was coming out so I could've gotten a 3G for a song, but I feel the same about that crappy itunes garbage software. Absolute ****e, IMO. I had to fix my daughter's desktop so many times a few years back because of that crapware and I'm not willing to go there again.

I also considered a crackberry, but nothing really interested me at the time except for the Bold and that was just as expensive as the Tilt 2.

I'd say don't blame the phone, blame the software. While the Rhodium hardware may not spec out like the bleeding edge stuff that has been released in the last few months, it is more than up to the task of handling a properly polished WM6.x ROM. I really would have liked to see this phone with 6.1 on it. As I implied in my above reply, 6.1 worked pretty flawless for me but 6.5 has been just this side of an unmitigated disaster. Throw in all the bloat and crap that ATT wants to put on their WM smartphones and you have what we got.

Again, my hope is that the new official ROM update will address all the issues that WM6.5 created.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] txrider:
I have had no problems and very rarely have to reset..

I'll be waiting until a good phone has all the hardware features I like in the TP2, either android or WM7 I don't care, I'll judge in a year.

The TP2 was the best phone out for me needs when I got it, and it'll be a year or so probably before something comes out that'll make me switch. It does all I want, and more, now. Higher res and faster speed would be nice, HDMI out and a few other hardware goodies would rock, but it isn't required.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] GWelker62:
I went thru the gambit of HTC/at&t phones over the last few years. I still even have a 3125 & 8525 in my desk. I got the first Tilt, and after I got it tweaked the way I wanted it, (eventually stayed with stock rom too), it has been a work horse for almost THREE YEARS! The last two years I had it, never had to hard reset it!!!

Now I have the Tilt2...all I can say is.... WOW... I am looking forward to the next three years.

One thing folks should understand about WinMo.. or Windows in general. A lot of the 'bugginess' can be attributed to third party apps, just like your desk/laptop.

I am worried about WinMo 7. I hear the new platforms are essentially a

Zune versus a pocket pc. My phone needs to be an extension of my desk/laptops, can a Zune platform fill the bill?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] charleswesde:
going down with the ship, why switch when my phone does everything I need and want it to.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ridds:
I think I could well be going to Android as I'm more swayed by the full qwerty keyboard than an operating system.

The new HTC G2 or Vision will be the way forward and I suspect I'll just take whatever OS is offered with it.

Even got a gmail account set up in readiness for the switch. It's a shame as I have no issues with WinMo but if they cannot provide the correct hardware then I'm off.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] grkmafioso:
the touch pro 2 has been the best phone i've ever had. yes it was glitchy at the beginning and it froze daily, but with the right setup, its perfect. Im running the Energy Rom right now, with Spb Mobile Shell 3.5 and a custom Spb skin. Its so customizable its sickening. I've had it in this configuration for the last 3 months, and I have not had to reset my phone for that whole period of time. on top of that, my battery life is longer. I hope they will make an updated version of the Rhodium with the slide out keyboard. I really don't want to upgrade to a phone without it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] uncleswoop:
working in manufacturing, you shoudl have known to try out any technology before you buy it. i have tilt2 and i mess with it everyday, flashing and tweaking, and within the year or so ive had the fone ive only had 2 times where ive had to SOFT reset. never had a problem that needed a hard reset.

even now i have it oc'd at 768 and no freezing never lags, no errors.

a lot of times its just that you need to match the technology u buy. some people are windows peeps, some are google peeps, some are apple peeps.

if your constantly getting lags, needing to reset... blah blah blah... then u probably need a more simple form of tech like iphone.

if you like to tweak and customize (and know a lil something about computers) go for windows.

if you want a phone thats psp/computer, go with android.

you want a weak version of psp, go with iphone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] aretzios:
I am going to stay with the Tilt2 until sometime next year. I really do not care about the speed of the processor or much else as long as the phone does what I want it to do. However, support of applications is the main issue. More and more applications are getting released for the iPhone and Android only and there are a number I would like to have. MS has abandoned WinMo (which makes little sense to me, but anyway), so moving to a new platform is essential to obtain newer applications.

So, the choice is the iPhone or Android. I dislike Apple's closed system so this brings us to Android. Unfortunately, there is no Android device that I find compelling right now. What I want is an HTC device running Sense with a keyboard and at least a 4'' screen. Hopefully. such device would be released soon (it has to be GSM because of travel requirements).