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[Galaxy S I9000 General] andrewluecke:
EXT isn't the solution, even if it does seem to cure the symptoms. Thus far, nobody has made any attempt to even discover how wear leveling on this phone is implemented (so long term, there is no proof it doesn't damage the phone, but I will admit, it is likely XSR is managing wear leveling, but nobody knows). So use the lag fix if you want, but whilst it has it's own benefits, something else is likely causing the stalls.

And please, don't tell people to use Froyo. It's VERY buggy still.

In regards to the using the lag fixes, EXT was designed to run on a RAW drive, not a FAT/RFS image. I'm pretty sure that using an image could cause some corruption when the power cuts out (similar to what happens on Virtual machine drives). So if you are getting corruption, consider using RFS. With EXT running on the raw drive though, journaling should work properly, BUT you should make sure wear leveling does too (probably does).
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Steephig:
Takes a bit of time, but that's no issue for me. GPS is not very important to me.

Had a few of them, but can easily be fixed.

Never had that in over a month

Never had that

No freezes, no loss

The quality problems Paul has reported don't show at all on my phone, after over a month. No scratches, nothing. Even though I regularly put in my pocket together with my keys.

The lag and GPS things are just startup errors and I'm sure they will be fixed in coming firmware updates. After all, the phone is only available for a short time.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Doppler808:
All I got to say. You had 2 weeks to return you device. I have no sympathy. If I was in your situation I would have returned it without hesitation.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Beowulf_pt:
Had the issues highlighted. My answer to your question in the subject is easy

. I don't.

Returned mine after 3 weeks. But many users don't seem to be picky or somehow don't have the same problems or don't need the features that cause them. Or maybe they think the price was fair.

I paid a lot and decided that having to waste time messing around with lag fix workarounds and Rom flashing on a brand new model and needing to buy a dedicated GPS would not be acceptable if you paid the full retail 599€. If you got it heavily subsidized or anormally cheap.. well, I guess one can live with it.

Maybe I'll buy the next generation Samsungs when they finally fix that mess. Despite that, the SGS has some really great aspects (audio quality, screen, etc). Maybe next time they'll actually have decent testing and QA procedures in place and will put out a product that is good consistently, not just excellent in some areas and a disaster in others.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] plemen:
It's odd when I hear the reports of all of these problems - odd because I don't have any of those problems and can honestly say this is the most advanced phone I have owned (and it's so thin!!).

I'm sure people are having problems and it's unfortunate but I haven't seen any (knock on wood) - this makes me thing there are some bad production runs or bad batches; return your phone for a replacement.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] zipolly:
problems

As previously stated ive had none of the mentioned problems and my daughter has the same phone as do four of my friends and none have experienced any of those problems , all of the phones mentioned are GSM generic handsets and i wonder if these problems are provider related ? Im 50 years old and have had many different handsets of various makes over the years and can honestly say this galaxy S is lightyears better in every way possible and an absolute joy to own !!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] wfhowell:
I have an iphone and a Galaxy s. I am open about both phones and both are good. Iphone doesnt have twice the issues. I just love how people close their minds to things they have no knowledge of and make blanket statements like that. Yes it is fun to flash the ROM on the Galaxy S.

But jailbread the iphone which is essentially rooting it like the galaxy s and there are no issues. The thing is, i like flashing Roms on the Galaxy S. I cant with iphone.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] wfhowell:
YEs thank you i do know there is another world out there.. Tell the people who make a blanket statement and say they are 1000 dollars that. Most phones sold in the USA. Most sold for 199 dollars. There are design flaws all over the place. I have none of those issues with the iphone. BUt some people are and that makes all iphones look bad, WITH a design flaw. Galaxy S is not close to perfect either. Why would we be flashing ROMS all over the place to find a stable phone?? Big design flaw. Thing is, we all like flashing Roms or we wouldnt be here, right? Those that dont like it use the phone, accept lags and gps misguidance and think nothing of it. Same with iphone. Many dont even know how to jailbreak to make their phone do so many more things. They accept it as it is. Who besides us has the time to sit and flash ROMS? Personally, I like it. I see potential in the Galaxy S. I like the phone and its fun. I wouldnt buy an iphone for 1000 dollars either. I wouldnt buy a Galaxy S for 1000 dollars. Who would? Maybe a Droid X...lol...not...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ConceptVBS:
Almost all of your "issues" seems like a software fix and surprisingly most of the "issues" seems to have been addressed with the latest firmware leaks on the interweb.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Pika007:
wfhowell- try to phrase your posts and use more commas (also, check they are placed correctly), seriously, it took me a while to understand what goes where and in what context.

You ask why are we flashing roms all over the place?

No, it's not to find a stable phone, the stock versions are perfectly stable.

The leaked roms we are flashing all day contain things which are TO BE RELEASED in future official firmwares, but, well, being the maniacs we are, we want it NOW.

So we flash.

You don't have to flash roms, you don't even really need to, you can sit and wait to the official firmware updates that are released every now and then (just not every 3 days to 2 weeks like the leaked versions), every manufacturer does that, samsung are no different.

Samsung recieved complaints about the GPS, addressed the issue in public, and promised we'll see a solution within the next month. Every consumer, not only the tech savvy ones will be able to apply this solution.

So now all we have to do is wait and see if it's a real effective fix.

About the lags, without taking 3rd party fixes into account, the situation is MUCH better on more advanced firmwares- The official ones as well. So again, even people who don't like to flash roms all day and only do the periodical official updates do get treated.

And i think you should really check what "design flaw" means.

A software issue can't be a "design flaw". A design flaw is something that is wrong either with the physical layout of the device, placing of components, or incompatibilities of hardware parts with each other.

Example:

Placing 2 antennas in a steel rim with only a tiny gap to seperate, if gap is bridged everything goes ape****, and place said gap in a position it'll most likely be bridged by part of the users= design flaw.

Having even the crappiest and buggiest firmware of an OS on a device= NOT a design flaw, as it can be treated without making changes in the device.

kapish?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] bilboa1:
once i upgraded the firmware my issues were gone and the phone is a joy.makes my iphone friends jealous everytime!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Fatherboard:
I had the HD2 for about a year, and besides the GPS thingy - the SGS is far superior, even when running boned stock.

You have no idea how poor the HD2 is, in comparison to the SGS.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] brunes:
Can someone explain to me exactly what the "lag" is that everyone talks about?

I mean sure, sometimes ops take a second or two. But this is not unique to this phone. I have had a windows mobile phone, an Iphone, and another android phone. All smartphone have instances where they have to process or swap, after all they are mobile pcs.

Personally the SGS is overall the most responsive phone I have ever had, it is certainly better than my 3gs ever was.

I often wonder what the people complaining about lag are comparing it to?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] sturmeh:
Without lagfix I get occasional blackscreen lag, and otherwise it's fine.

With lagfix I get no lockups and no lag.

JM5 here, and GPS is reasonably ok, but I don't really use it that much.

All of it's problems are definitely down to terrible software.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] bilboa1:
some newer phones ship with fixed fw i think from bell? the lag is very noticable when it hzppend it freeze for many secs often. with fix its gone tho.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Mithent:
The GPS isn't great, no; at least with aGPS enabled with Google's SUPL server, fixes are fairly fast, but they're not very accurate and keep wandering even if I don't move the phone. Luckily, I don't really use GPS much, but if that's a critical application then I wouldn't recommend the Galaxy S until the fix (hopefully) arrives.

Other than that, I've never found lag to be particularly bad, admittedly coming from Windows Mobile. Ok, occasionally it takes a second or two to start programs, but that's hardly a dealbreaker for me even if it might be nice if it was a bit faster (and there's lag fixes to help of course). Programs themselves don't lag. I guess this problem is made worse by aggressive task killing as programs then have to be started de novo every time. Overall it's far more responsive than any other phone I've ever owned, and makes using my phone something I want to do rather than something to tolerate because everything takes so long.

I don't have random freezes or other problems. The only problem I've had which required restarting the phone was Swype getting stuck, which isn't made by Samsung anyway.

And, although I don't use a screen protector or case and it lives in my pocket, my phone's looking pristine so far. I've not done any forensic-level examination for otherwise invisible scratches, but I don't see the relevance of that.

So I'd say the only deallbreaker is GPS, if you rely on that a lot, and hopefully that will be fixed. Lag is a minor inconvenience which has been alleviated with newer firmwares and fixes, and I've not experienced the others.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] rageofreaper:
I've had mine a week, new software came shipped on it. I have to say it's simply awesome. I work for CPW so I get plenty of time with phones, and as such I've done plenty of hands on comparisons with the Iphone etc.

Nothing comes close to the all around excellence of this phone. Those of you with lags, well, other then my sympathy, I have nothing of any worth to throw your way. Mine runs super fast, my GPS locks on just fine, I have no freezes, no lags (Im not tolerant to lags either, I know what lags feel like, I hate using a phone that does (any winmo, x10, milestone))

I have a crapload of apps and games, Im running launcher pro, i have no lag fix, i havent rooted, its all just stock, and it works wonderfully. So for those reading this thread who might think its all doom and gloom with this phone, it is for me the single best phone I have ever had, or sold, or worked with.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] brunes:
I wonder if people complaining about lags have ever used another smartphone in their life.

I mean with the iphone, sitting at a "please wait" kind of screen for 5+ seconds was an everyday occurance, having no option but to wait it out or kill the app.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Tachikoma_kun:
For those still moaning that those of us claiming we have no lag are just stupid or ignoring the problem, I made a video of my non-rooted, non-lagfixed phone running stock JM1.

Before someone claims I am rooted because all the Samsung bloatware isn't in the application list, you can hide apps from Launcher Pro.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jJL9qNxwso

Phone uptime is 68.25 hours, so not rebooted for the sake of the video, I show free RAM, opening 720p .mkv's, opening gallery with multi-touch zoom/panning, opening games, etc.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] xZeDgEx:
The small issues I have, slow GPS (occasionally), stutters, pauses from time to time. Gone when I use ADW launcher. These are hardly dealbreaking flaws.. They are all software related and will be fixed. Phone is awesome overall.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ickyboo:
I don't know if this matters but I found if you disable heptic/vibrations then there's no lag when entering input or switching apps. Seems the vibration motor needs to wake up and OS waits for it. So Yeh. Disable heptic in your whatever soft inputs you are using

Sent from my Apple Newton 2100
[Galaxy S I9000 General] plemen:
Unless you want to make calls. I'd say the software-update fixable GPS issue that some are having is nothing compared to physical design flaw like the iPhone has...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] The.Opethian:
I can agree on this. Then again, there's a reason why it's a very stable platform, and that's because of the nice things that make up the Android platform isn't on iOS4.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kgk888:
I've seen non jailbroken iPhone4's hang or freeze when loading apps, which granted is likely the developer's fault, but still. It's not a 100% stable experience. No phone platform is.

Also, iOS4 on the iPhone 3G is horrendous.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] sturmeh:
The iPhone is stable when it can do nothing.

The second you Jailbreak it, it's the least stable of the lot.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] alovell83:
it's likely that there are multiple problems at play, including lack of memory and processor speed, particularly before the iphone 4. Apple has always gimped hardware in favor of getting better battery life and programming software in order to mask it's shortcomings (i'm not saying the software is bad, it's just great at what it's good at and lacking in things that would make me a customer (again)).
[Galaxy S I9000 General] spandsbab:
Pal you may have been born with a green birthmark in one of your butt cheeks... your so unlucky... I got mine two week ago and its brilliant! Yeah it has some minor lag issues (very minimal for me) and the GPS is weak but hey when we get the Froyo update hopefully these will all be fixed... and I do not think the build quality is even an issue... You should have bought an Iphone and see if that works for you...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ogen:
My gps is fine tbh just not the best but good enough. I use g satnav allmoust every day and it havent let me down once. The lag got fixed by the oneclick fix and since i dont like touchwiz i bought launcher pro plus. With auto mem cleaner my sgs is now a stable monster setting 2200 in quadrant.

So i cant complain. Ofc android is not for everyone or maybe u got a faulty device.

Im running stock jf3 fw rooted Ofc.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] brunes:
Not sure if this is meant to be a joke or if the poster is delusional...

Again, the iPhone lags all the freaking time. Try to do anything substantial in it and it lags with "Please wait" screens like crazy. Sometimes it hangs just opening a large inbox.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] TeamSancheZz:
Dunno what some of you haters are doing, but my phone works great. I've root'd it for fun (no reason to honestly), and added Kwaak3 to it and have no problems. That includes NO lag & never lost data. I've also used the gps a few times, only lost connection once during my 45 minute drive in a heavy rainstorm. The device was smart enough to "guess" where i was going anyways and once reconnected, synced right back up again. So a whole 20 seconds downtime? Not bad for a "faulty" phone. Gps even worked for me in my house.

Btw did i mention i can make phone calls? =D
[Galaxy S I9000 General] heygrl:
Issues with the build quality because "paul" at MoDaCo has his phone looking like trash? Please, that's a bunch of unsubstantiated trash. Even if this happened with him being extremely careful, he should know better than to make such a broad statement with no facts or other i9000's to back it up. Anyone can tell that wear seems to be abnormal. Plenty got theirs on the same day, none of them report the same wear and rightfully doubt his claim.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] scouzer:
Okay guys I need some advice. I'm obviously doing something wrong. I am on vacation and guessed what happened? My phone froze while asleep and when I rebooted it hangs on boot. Again.

I don't understand what I'm doing wrong. The only things non stock I've done is root and ROM Manager.

I've lost all my data yet again and since mine is a Bell I can't even recover without access to a computer with ADB. I'm posting from my girlfriends iPhone.

What could I be doing wrong? This is my third Galaxy so it's unlkely it's the phone. Any ideas? :(
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
the only thing that comes to mind is, you should get an iphone, you are not qualified for Galaxy S (pun intended)

it's obviously not suitable to your needs.... seriously
[Galaxy S I9000 General] scouzer:
While I love your elitist reply, I've been using Android without issues since I hacked it onto my Htc Vogue. I've never had a problem until now. I like the Galaxy a lot more than this iPhone. Hopefully someone will be more helpful.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] scouzer:
Could it really be just another faulty phone?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] scouzer:
Went in and exchanged again today. Interestingly, this is my first of the 4 phones I've had that has allowed me to upgrade to JH2 via Kies. It does not have 3 button support though. Maybe JH2 will solve my problems?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] bilboa1:
ive a I9000

none of the issues such as "signal low = freeze" (sounds rly like bs.. 3rd phone? bs detector is beeping, ive yet to see tech support replacing a phone 3 times without asking themselves wtf is going on)

just long gps locks and laggy without lagfix

with a newer firmware the phone is a joy

i have also a 3G, 3GS and ip4 and the SGS is smoother in many operations with a recent firmware, so believe what you want. the 3G is choppy as fk* hell even on iOS3, the 3GS is decent, the ip4 is ok but happens to get choppy at times. the SGS is just the same except web stuff is smoother.

shall i mention that i never lost data?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] bilboa1:
theres a fix in the market even but you refuse to apply it.. well your loss.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] smashpunks:
Lol I got a vibrant and have never had any lag, I also have a n1 running froyo and the sgs is just as fast on 2.1. Never had any lock ups or data corruption, no freezes when signal drops, gps isn't the best but it works and I've use it plenty.

The build quality is fine and even give a nice replacement back just in case. The only issue I have is the gps and that's a minor one cause it works just not as well as others.

I love this phone and it ****s on my n1...... or any iPhone...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] opensourcefan:
How quickly the iPhone 2g 1.0 has been forgotten...

On my un-rooted, locked, stock 2.1 i9000m SGS all I get is a teeny bit of lag, I experience none of your other issues, even my GPS works. This phone rocks. The only thing I can suggest is get another phone, don't mess with it, treat it with some TLC and it may return the favor.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] oskariunit:
a-gps

Have the people who have had problems with gps used a-gps? I'm just waiting my phone to arrive and i'm little bit worried about these things. Hope I dont have faulty device as I've had awful experience with my latest nokia phones.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dakine:
Since the voodoo kernel is here I think its time to put the lag issue at rest. Yes it requires an extra flash but the results are as smooth as butter.

And with the newer firmwares we now have a usable gps.

Don't see much else to ***** about at this time.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] truegrass:
on eris kaos v30. I am not sure if this is a typical issue. Just wanted to put it out there that from the version I flashed to today, they are not working.

Is there a way to make them work?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Installation instructions.

Nand:

You

must

have HardSPL installed, recommended minimum version 3.29.

Recommended Radio version 1.65 or above.

MicroSD card

must

be formatted Fat32.

Download whichever themed version you prefer.

Unzip the downloaded file to a suitable temporary folder, then copy everything to SD card root.

You will now have an SD card with one file on root,(KAISimg.nbh), and one folder,(andboot), place this SD in your device and flash the NBH using bootloader method, ( if you are unsure of how to do this please read through Dukenukemx's excellent guide: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=680518).

Once you have flashed the device you must remove the battery, then replace it and power on, once you have the scrolling text press and hold the centre of the lcd screen until you get the install menu, ( you can also use dpad centre button, or volume up button ).

Once in the installer menu check that sys on nand, data on nand are starred, then choose option 1: install (yes, you know you will wipe your present system, yes, you want to clear data).

Once the installer finishes choose quit, and wait until the initial boot completes, ( this will take a little time, but once you see the boot animation everything is going well).

This next stage is important, please read carefully, or your system will likely be unstable.

Once you reach the welcome screen, press the android, skip the intro, skip the sign in, press next to both the following screens, and once this is complete, wait, for at least 15 minutes, with this build ,(as with most deodexed builds), it is

important

not to dive in and mess with things, the system needs time to copy the odex files to cache, if you interrupt this you could get a load of fc's, and most likely have to reinstall.

Once you have completed the waiting stage, you are usually best to power down, and reboot, your system should now be ready to begin using.

Initial setup:

This is common to both haret and nand installs, and is my usual procedure with most android roms, it should help with both battery life and speed.

In settings;

In Sound and Display, uncheck Orientation.

Set animations to Some. (you may wish to leave this at All).

Add google account.

In Spare Parts;

Set Window and Transition animations to Fast.

Check Home app in memory.

Advanced options: These may yield additional performance.

Use either Compcache or Swap, using both may actually slow the system down, you will require an SD card that has been partitioned with a 64Mb swap partition for swap.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
Sounds like you've got some good things to add to Polymod that it's needed for a long time. Best wishes and have fun with the build!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Always had fun with your build poly, no matter what I tried, I always ended up re-installing it :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mnjm9b:
I know you stated it in the other thread but what are all the changes you did to delta?

and is your download themed like the screenshots (those are gamma I think)...I loved the dark theme.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
The first post is pretty much a placeholder at the moment, It will be evolving to reflect the status of 2.1D soon, I am working on the screenshots and changes at the moment and will update the first post as soon as possible.

Delta is now available in both light and dark themes, screenshots will follow soon :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] firestrm:
Absolutely top notch instruction and ROM.

Far more stable than my previous attempts with other ROM's. Ill be watching this closely.

Thanks a lot zenity.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Thanks, it has always been my favourite build, and just needed some updating to bring it back to life :)