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[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
That would be excellent. You can see from post #4 which ones are being updated and which aren't. The main problem is the really old ones since it doesn't make sense for me to add english versions of the IDS data, as it makes it very hard to see what needs doing, but it shows up as IDS on the tab.

Unfortunately I don't know any languages so I am at the mercy of generous translators.

Yes I know this is a problem! I do try to anticipate as much as I can, but it is not always clear what text I'll need until I've developed it. I do try to ensure that each file is usable by the older versions of the tab, so an update can be applied for all releases.

The next beta (4.Beta.0) will add a number of translations, but I hope to reuse as much of the facebook tab's translations for most of them (most will be to do with the authorisation part). I should be able to put up a template file very soon for the beta, this should cover a big chunk of the language changes to come.

You will need the read only mode turned off (this is only available when you've put your donate code in...), as these are actions which will write to the channel data. You should also see the "Action" menu on the right-hand button also only available when you have the read only mode turned off.

Let me know if that is the problem.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Laurentius26:
Hi Melt,

Thanks for the update one more time mate. :)

I've translated the German manila file.

Well actualy it's based on User_99 and Steve P86, I only updated it to latest 3.0 values.

Grtz, Leo :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] sharkie405:
I've gotten a new phone since I donated and received a device donate code. Any way around that?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Cheers. I'll add it to the build for the betas and attached it to post#4.

I'll keep the build handy for V3.0 so I can update the package with V3.0+ language files each time.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Yep, just PM me the new code, your efforts/donations are still valid! :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] User_99:
German language update for Rev. 3.0
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mike2nl:
Leo you are faster then Skype to talk about it :D.

Now we have to ask Ber for the spanish part.

Will you translate also the dutch part, or have i this to do :D?

UPDATE for Leo:

i have uploaded the xml file for the dutch language (45C5183A_manila_new.xml) to the dropbox.

We can work together, because today is no more time for XDA :(.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] saugbaer:
bigthx for 3.0 @meltwater :D

i have a problem :eek:

If I were a feed as read mark, does not change the color

In the beta2 has this still works :confused:

thx ;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Humm thanks, I'll see if it does the same for me. The change isn't that big with the default theme though (lighter white is Unread, grey is Read - try long press as it will always ask to change the state to the opposite, so you should see it change).

I shouldn't have changed that bit, as far as I know anyway.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Excellent. (sorry out of thanks for now...)

Thanks.

I should have 4.Beta.0 language file template ready soon, just a couple more entries to do.

I think I've got the outline of everything in there the build now, just need to finish off and test!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Ahh my router/laptop is annoying, refuses to connect properly. Wouldn't be a problem but my dev laptop doesn't like wired Lan so it blue screens after a while...not ideal.

Need to save up for a new one or just live offline like a hermit I think!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Skrobel:
We need to support you more than. I can start myself. A very little something for your effort.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
WOW!

Thank you ever so much!

Yes, I shall try to fix the issues with my network/laptop thing, not only is it annoying but increasingly I'm having to hold off posting due to no connection or blue-screening halfway through. Fortunately it hasn't killed development yet (but connection is handy for keeping synced with dropbox - for reverting changes, and for looking up info when I'm stuck on something).

Will do some tests tonight to see what is causing the issue as it does seem to be getting worse this week. I think it is part issue on laptop and part router, so if I can fix one it may be enough to get on with (a new laptop isn't really an option at the moment).

PM me with your code from the tab.

Getting close now I hope with the updates...but will definitely need a few days testing too (its quite a complex arrangement internally now). It will be quite a rough beta this time since adding facebook just opens up a wide range of extras to support, so I've kept it to the basics (well mostly) until:

a) time can be put in on other releases (it's something which will take several attempts to get totally correct as there are lots of combinations/formats of data to handle, there is no point trying to rush it and break it).

b) I've decided how best to do it (i.e. configurable/language support etc).
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Skrobel:
I can tell you even more. I have a polish translation file ready. I didn't posted it only because I can't test it at the moment as I have a ROM with Sense 2.1 (testing as well). So as soon as I will flash something with Sense 2.5, I will test the tab, the translation and will PM you with the code.

Especially that this translation file is about to change to next version as you stated yesterday.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
That's fair enough. Translations for the stable version are ideal, as I expect it will be a while before we can say 4.beta is good enough for general use/cooking.

I've done it so it functions just the same when not using a donate code (and only a few IDS items will show if the experimental facebook stuff is turned off). I guess the down-side to adding more and more function to the tab is it requires more text (but the up-side is a good one I hope)!

The 4.beta lang file has a lot added, but I'll go through and update the templates with any translations I have already from the facebook tab (the whole Facebook Api process adds most of them).

Translating is a big job so I am glad that people are happy to do it and I really appreciate the time and effort it takes.

At some point I'll get it so the version numbers/authors of the language files are displayed, and also perhaps make it so they can be updated directly from the tab (yes - another rss feed would work here! - quite handy aren't they!) - although a repack of the cab probably is just as easy.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Skrobel:
No problem. The translation is the least we can do to support you and the community. And I know this is important because if a user has a polish Manila (and the HKCU\MUI\CurrLang is set to 1045) every tab will 'look' for polish file versions even though this user would like to use the tab even in english. So I think it would make sense not to attach older versions of language files to newer releases of the tab. I would rather include a correct file name but with original english text entries.

This way the user will see english texts but at least he won't see IDS_.......... anywhere independently on the language he set in the registry. Unless of course we can set the language in RSSTab individually?

On the other hand I don't intend to wait particularly for the 4.beta, but rather I don't want to post something which is not tested.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Yeah that is a fair point. You can set the RSSUtil side of things separately (settings pages etc) but not sense unfortunately.

Will have a think what the best option is, either full English files for outdated language files with a "language pack" you can add if you want to, or a "English Pack" which you can add/use for outdated ones.

In fact, it might not be as bad if I ensure the separation in the file is valid (sense only and sense shared translations at the bottom). Then if that part is valid and up to date, the user will be able to select the language for the other part as English - but then you'll get a mix which isn't good either.

Ideally I don't want to waste the previous translations even if not up to date, but the appearance of IDS values probably isn't what we want... I'll experiment with it, if I can put TAGs in without annoying sense I can put english bits for the new items and translators can search for the TAGs...at a push a "~" sign would be enough maybe, but ideally internal to the file would be better.

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Ah, from my initial testing, the xml comment notation <!-- --> appears to be correctly ignored by sense (sounds obvious, but it is best not to assume these things when using sense). I can then put comments in the file to indicate any entries which need translating and the translator will be able to search on it, to the user it will just be english when the rest will be translated normally.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Skrobel:
Yep, perhaps initial english plus the language packs would be a good idea... and the feed with language updates :)

But since there is no perfect way we just have to translate the files as soon as possible ;) And I'm sure there will be more people ready to do it judging by the popularity of your FBTab.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Fingers crossed!

It looks like we might have a solution (see update to other post). Will trial it in 4.Beta and then can update the 3.0 Release after.

Thanks for bringing it up, hopefully it will improve the tab for everyone by improving this aspect.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] jirkab:
Czech & Slovak

Czech and Slovak language for Release 3.

Czech by jirkab, Slovak by juben.

Please update the list of language versions in the post #7 and rsstab-8974.zip file to download from the first post. Still missing Slovak language in the on-line application update. Is there an English contents of 6DD27BCA_manila file.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Ah sorry I missed it! I'll make sure I download them to my build so they don't get missed next time.

Come to think of it, I didn't do my usual check through the thread...so if I've missed anyone else let me know!

UPDATE:

Ok about 1/2 way through updating all the language files to include english for untranslated parts and also updating them for 4.Beta.0, as well as including any facebook tab stuff I can pull in.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Never doing that again, man that was a big job!

The zip below should contain the latest language files for 4.Beta.0 and below (will use for release 3.0 too).

Any entry which starts with <!-- en-us --> still requires translation. When translated you can remove the comment!

Cheers

UPDATE File Removed - Latest is added to the language post#7!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] sharkie405:
So, I was thinking... If indeed you do manage to get the tab together with Facebook and Twitter, are you still going to call it the "RSS Tab"? It seems to me that at that point, it should be called something else since RSS feeds will be only a part (and possibly a less used part by the masses) of the tab. I just curious. :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] illi:
Social tab; may be?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] sharkie405:
Yeah, I like that. I was thinking Friend Stream Tab, like Android, but RSS feeds aren't really to do with friends at all. And I was thinking something like Communication Tab or Comm Tab, but that sounds too similar to Comm Manager maybe, I dunno. But, I like your suggestion. :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
The God tab...all knowing, all powerful. ;)

Perhaps "life" tab.

Although multiple instances of the would be better in the long term.

iTab...lol.

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[Windows Mobile Software Development] sharkie405:
LOL, God Tab! I love it! :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Ok, I said I'm not doing that again...but I've found more translations to transfer into the language files, so I will continue to revamp them (the template 4.Beta.0 is the same though).
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Skrobel:
Perhaps you should write a script which would fill language files with necessary tags/strings automatically ;)

Just kiddin' :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
That would be nice! But yeah, I'll have to wait until I have a clone to do that.

The beta is almost ready (but I'm still not quite happy with the update process so will be changing that and testing it over the next few days).

As you can see below there is a range of levels of translated files, but at least now, anything which isn't translated:

a) shows english rather than IDS text

b) easy to find in the file (search for <!--en-us-->)

Hopefully this is win-win. Let me know where the errors are (no doubt somewhere in the 28 files I've messed up) - I've tried to credit everyone so let me know if I've missed anyone.

All updated (files now on post#7):

en-us --> 5D3CA1C8_manila #### MASTER FILE (Rev4.Beta) - WILL ALWAYS BE UP TO DATE IN THE BUILD ####

en-gb --> 52BB74CA_manila (Rev4.Beta)

cs-cz --> 103878F8_manila (Rev 3 (+fb) - thanks to jirkab)

de-de --> 66FAC0B6_manila (Rev 3 (+fb) - thanks to SteveP86 Saugbaer User_99 (+BeeGee_Tokyo))

es-es --> 501DCF32_manila (Rev1 - thanks to amno1970)

es-es_tradnl --> 467C6FDA_manila (Rev1 - thanks to amno1970)

fr-fr --> 4B7197B2_manila (Rev 3.Beta (+fb) - thanks to mickey ric69 (+romualdrichard))

pl-pl --> 5C21E5C2_manila (Rev 2.2	(+fb) - thanks to Budniu (+Skrobel))

zh-cn --> 24E697B8_manila (Rev1 - thanks to winderp)

zh-tw --> 1378D3AC_manila (Rev 2.2 (+fb) - thanks to wstephen boa19861105 (+mudhi))

sk-sk --> 6DD27BCA_manila (Rev 3 (+fb) - thanks to juben (+pa3x))

it-it --> 0CB20886_manila (Rev 1 (+fb) - thanks to bbonzz (+etoy & Drakknar))

## Rev 4.Beta - Template (+fb) ## - Template files where I've been able to pull in fbTab translations for some parts!

nl-nl --> 45C5183A_manila	(+mike2nl)

el-gr --> 23A721E6_manila	(+colossus_r)

pt-br --> 2E511842_manila	(+dotcompt)

pt-pt --> 5AF6D7E2_manila	(+dotcompt)

nb-no --> 233D596C_manila	(+agaPer)

hu-hu --> 115E4006_manila	(+zoliwr)

ru-ru --> 012E43AE_manila	(+Bumeranghc)

## Rev 4.Beta - Template ##

ar-sa --> 58934920_manila

ca-es --> 29FB788A_manila

da-dk --> 10CD3B3A_manila

fi-fl --> 4F878394_manila

ja-jp --> 48821D9C_manila

ko-kr --> 668F3B00_manila

ro-ro --> 220E8E16_manila

sv-se --> 5C82DDD4_manila

tr-tr --> 67FB366A_manila
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mike2nl:
Ok i will check it in the evening what is to do for the rest of the ids's ;).
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Cheers!

Would also need some new icons/banners...

...no rush though, might be better to call it "WIP tab" or "half baked tab".
[Windows Mobile Software Development] sharkie405:
The God Tab!

I was bored this morning... Just something for fun :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] User_99:
Let the games begin ;)

Here the German language update for Rev.4 beta 0...

Hope it works and translation is fine :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Like it! The version without the film real was ok, since the tv icon kinda covers it. Other than that love it! :)

Best hope that I can get the twitter bit working eventually!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] sharkie405:
While in reality I am a very good artist (as in pencil, charcoal and paint) I've still got a lot to learn about computer graphics. Also, I only have Photoshop elements and not the "real" photoshop. In any event, here's that image I posted (minus the movie reel) in .psd format if anyone wants to improve on it or use bits and pieces of it for a new icon creation. It's still separated in layers.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mike2nl:
So and here is my fast idea for the right background :D;).
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Liking the graphics guys.

Bad news laptop and internet still not playing nicely.

Good news just did the changes I needed to make to the update process so will start testing again and see if it is ok.

Getting there!

UPDATE:

Wow, was just over a week ago since I announced the facebook feature, I've been putting some serious time and work into getting a beta ready. Getting very close now, depending on what time I have over the weekend for testing, I hope I can get it out at the start of next week.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] jirkab:
Czech

Czech language update for Rev.4 beta
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Added that and the german update to the build!

Excellent.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mike2nl:
Dutch language is in the translation process, but now my very little girl (avatar) comes first ;). Tomorrow i'll go further with it.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
No problem!

Another few tweeks to handle the different modes, but so far nothing too major. Still a few other bits to test though.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] User_99:
Confirmed too. Use default theme. But "Mark all read" and "Mark all unread" works fine...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Ok, that is odd. I've been using it that way in the current beta build and it seems to be fine, perhaps one of the files wasn't updated. The only issue I do get is that I need to find a way to change the text colour to "read" without refreshing the tab (and losing the position you are at).

I'll reinstall Rev3.0 from the cab at some point and see what it is.

Re-testing the api functions now for the facebook bit, to make sure it is still working ok.

Interesting:

Never had mobile data connection before, didn't release quite how long it took to confirm the authorisation (also it seems to fail 1st time (only done it a couple of times through the data connection so far) - pressing "Paste & Authorise" a second time works though).

Right, those of you who are facebook friends with my facebook account (the one linked with the FbTab app), will already see that the test worked!

[there are a few cosmetic things I will change in later builds, but I have to draw the line somewhere for a release]
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
4.Beta.0 Release Version 12thJune2011

4.Beta.0 Release Version 12thJune2011

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NOTE: Facebook integration & feed updates require the read only mode to be disabled. Due to the beta/experimental status this only available to donate users (as a thank you for their support).

Release 4.Beta.0 - Facebook Integration Release

Facebook Integration:

+No more issues related to the HTC dll, this uses my own code for updates - which is using the latest GraphApi (currently using the authorisation from the FbTab, but will transfer that to the RSSTab)

+All contacts and friends will be visible (just like they are on your facebook page itself)

+Able to view your News Feed as well as your own Wall

+Able to update the feeds directly from the RSSTab

+Able to see comments and likes for each post

+Able to make Posts to other users walls (as well as own)

+Able to make comments on post

+Able to like a post

Other additions:

+Update feeds directly from the tab (finally - although new post count I think needs more work)

Still To do (extras):

1.Option to remove/re-order feeds (for now you will have to do it via RSSHub instead - current order is the order you add them)

2.Facebook Tab style layout

3.Extra support for different posts (albums, urls etc)

4.Contact Photo handling

5.Feed icon

6.Change update to correctly handle new and unread items (needs a few adjustments) - update should function for normal feeds too.

7.Update the podcast link download handling

8.Capture url links in item view so browser can be used.

9.Multi-language support for new bits (complete missing parts)

10.Sense Style Comment/Post dialogues

11.Another Bonus feature...perhaps...

12.Revise and update user manual

Note for cooks:

At the moment, Facebook.ApiApp.dll has been changed to use the newer meltwater.apiLang.dll. I've not tested this with the fbTab, even if it does work it'll need both meltwater.apiLang.dll for the dll and Facebook.apiLang.dll for the FacebookUtil for it to work. Anyway let me know if it causes problems, I can always adjust names etc.

This really is a RAW beta so there is plenty of room for improvement, but I've put in a lot of work to get the parts which are implemented working and hopefully usable. Anyway questions or comments then please post (at the moment I've not got time for a user guide tonight - authorisation is the same as the fbTab).

Oh and yes I know it's 11th June not the 12th...but the dates in the code and it's not worth changing for 2 hours!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] sharkie405:
Cooking as we speak! Will report back! Thank you :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] saugbaer:
bigthx for new beta :D

If I were a feed as read mark, does not change the color

The works again ;)

But i have a problem :eek:

If i am in the rss tab on menu press....then nothing happens :confused:

So I don't come more to the settings :rolleyes:

Is this a bug :confused: ...Or is it in my device ;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] illi:
I had v3 cooked but not fbTab. I now cab installed v4. I dont see the fb intergration.

I'm confused!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Ah yes the options are tucked in the menus. You'll need the tab activated with a donate code, the advanced settings enabled which will make the Tab Control subpage available. When you disable the read only mode, you should be able to enable the facebook integration. A new sub menu will be available for setting up the authorisation etc.

Sorry its so complex...might rethink it all one day.

Let me know if anyone gets a feed added and working, since the whole thing is using a whole series of processes some of which I've only used before in my development code, others are ported from the fbTab. So far my testing with the cab version has been fine (with the limits mentioned on the release notes).
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Ref: menu key not working

Make sure you reset sense by deleting manilafull.xml too. The menu referances have been changed and sense copies them to that file only when it is created.

Recommend doing that each time a new version is installed anyway, as sense only rebuilds fully when that file is removed and re-generated (it pulls in all the pages xml files as well as the tab control file).
[Windows Mobile Software Development] illi:
Unfortunate for me as I dont own any credit card to donate. So, I'll stick to the fbTab + RSSTab (without fb integration).

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
No problem. You've donated time and effort supplying me with useful test data and feedback previously.

pm me with your code :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] User_99:
On first sight all looks fine here for me on my test device. Update was no problem. Updating and reading feeds work...

Continue testing... :D

PS: Sorry no FB account :cool:
[Windows Mobile Software Development] saugbaer:
Thank you for the broad hint :eek: .....Now everything is roger :)

Unfortunately, i cannot test facebook not.....Since i have no account there *sorry*
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mike2nl:
I am downloading it and will report later after the test. Tse, one time i sleep a little bit longer and then, you meltwater, makes an update :D.

Update:

- longer touch on one rss channel and then release - update only this rss feed or cancel (cool :cool:)

- settings -> facebook api settings - so as allways working (perfect)

- facebook integration - not working yet, have to do more tests (FB tab is installed)

- 1st secreenshot - My Feed and News is visible

- 2nd screenshot - some trouble with updaying my feed - have to investigate more
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mike2nl:
No problem at all with the new sense util and the most add & remove files. Will copy it today to the dropbox

UPDATE:

copy of sense util v4 mike2nl is done