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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Firestrm, YGPM :P

Actually it sounds like a typical panel2/3 mismatch, only in your case the reverse of Firestrm's, the few seconds of snow is not abnormal, however the 'sleep' of death' where it will not awaken is usually a sign of mismatched panel type, try panel2 for a while, after all it's easy enough to reflash the nbh.

The 'keep launcher in memory' should also work for Launcher Pro, it works for ADW launcher, so should do the same for Pro, it applies to the 'default' launcher, so whatever launcher you assign as default, android will attempt to keep it in memory as much as it is practical for it to do so.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] sirrkitt:
Alright, will try Panel 2 again! Thanks for the info!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] spuzzum:
Keyboard Configuration Tool

Thanks for all your work on your rom. I am running it on a vogue and i have a problem finding the configuration tool for the stylus. I looked everywhere. Usually its in with the other applications. Any ideas?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Having a look into this, with kaiser it is usually not an issue, however it should probably be included for the sake of completenes, and for anyone who needs it for running on other devices.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] spuzzum:
thanks for the reply
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Rosered:
is this build multi language or bassic english

kisses

Rose Red
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
By multi-language do you mean keyboard type, or the actual language displayed onscreen?

It should be able to be language localised, however I'm not sure, I'm afraid I'll have to look into that, however as far as I am aware from looking at the system it has the support there, just never had to check what support is built in :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Rosered:
thx for your quick response I'll will try it

kisses

Rose
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Ninja reply, the build is multi-lingual, at least I managed to change it to a number of european languages, and happily displays the correct text on menus, icons etc.

To change, it's in settings, language and keyboard.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] VladbIka:
Hi Zenity...

You wrote that Youtube works... Only I have problem with Youtube? I can't see picture on video? but i can hear what happens when i'm playing video in Youtube... How can I fix this?

And another question...

In WinMobile i have stable working GPS, but in Android it's too slow... and not always it can connect to Sputnic :)

Ty 4 answers ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] janax:
3 problems

Hi

first, thank you very much for your hard work, that's really impressive !

It works fine but I have 3 problems (2 very important) :

- the microphone seems not to work : when I call somebody he doesn't ear me (it's not a material problem because this doesn't happen when I use the phone with windows mobile)

- when I connect my kaiser in USB, the computer doesn't detect it (which is a big problem cause I have no other way to send file from my computer to my miniSD card...)

- the camera software crashes when I try to open it ...

(and youtube doesn't work neither ... )

Do you think there is a way to fix these problems ? If I can't find solutions I will have to keep using this awful windows mobile...

Thanks !
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
USB connection does not work very reliably in any Android build, the best way to transfer data would be a usb card reader and microSD adaptor, which is my usual method of transferring data.

Microphone issues may be Radio version related, anything over 1.65 should be good however, there may also be issues if you are using an older Kernel/NBH, and since I notice you mention Camera then this may also be kernel related, did you use the one I included with the build?

And Thanks, but the work is pretty much Polyrhythmic's, I am just maintaining the build and keeping it up-to-date.

Will have to have a look at the youtube problem, I'll remove it from the 'working' list for now.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] janax:
Thanks for your answer !

OK for the USB issue I'll try to find an adaptator...

and yes I used everyting that was included in the build (light themed)... where can I know the version of the radio ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Camera should work fine with the included files, although it will FC if you try to use video, rather than Still pictures.

I am guessing you flashed Nand, if not then the radio version should be displayed on the bottom right when you boot winmo, can't remember for the life of me if there is a way to see it in android, I'll have a look for that info.

If you wish you could try flashing a 1.65 radio to see if this helps, you may need to flash using usb method, since you may not be able to copy files to SD at present.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] janax:
I used a SD install...

is there a tutorial somewhere to learn how to flash a 1.65 radio ? excuse me but I'm pretty much a newbie ... And where can I find the right files ?

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] VladbIka:
Hm.... I reflashed Radio to 1.65.21.18 and it Works Faster now... I dont't know why, but i Like it ;)

I hope that Youtube will work soon.

I wanna help, but I'm too Newbie for programming Android!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] janax:
xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=433835

is this tutorial useful for me ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cussy:
Hi all,

why don't you include the lookout app? :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Don't really want to clutter things up with apps that will only be used by some, after all, everyone has their own taste, and favourite apps, that's why we have Market :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cyburke:
this is a very clean/interesting looking rom..... does anyone run this on a vogue and what is your opinion of it on that device?

curious how the resolution w/ 143 dpi will look as well.

cheers!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
The 320x428@143 is what I normally use, I find it pretty good on Kaiser, not certain how it will look on vogue, but it should be about the same.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] janax:
can somebody help me ? pleaaase ... :o I'm a poor newbie lost in this forum... ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
If you have never flashed a custom ROM then yes, it is useful, it covers all aspects of flashing roms, radios, HardSPL, unlocking and generally good advice for new users to kaiser and flashing, in fact this was the guide I used when I first got my kaiser.

However perhaps a better, more android related guide is here:http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=680518, I'd have a good read through both. :)

The most important thing is making sure you have HardSPL, the rest is just useful, HardSPL is vital for flashing anything other than official stock ROM's.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] VladbIka:
Zenity, I have a little problem, i'm installin my navigation app (Navitell) it's size 15mb? and phone works slower.

what do u think if i'll install Sys on NAND, but DATA in Ext, will it work slower, will it install app's in microSD this way???
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
You could try that, but I am not sure how well it will work, another way might be to use the nbh editor to resize the system partition to about 82MB, this may give you enough room on the data partition in nand, as the system partition does not get anything added after install you could go as low as 81Mb but that is pushing it to the smallest size possible, you will probably also have to reinstall after this, so it might be worth trying before data on ext2.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] w0ngj0w0:
i can't play youtube video.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Philux:
What is the proper partitioning for a SD card to use EXT2.

I want to run system on NAND and the data.img on EXT2 partition, but it always installs to the FAT32 partition. Never on EXT2. Setup my EXT2 in Ubuntu using GParted.

Here is my setup on a 1GB SD Card:

| FAT32_(512MB) | EXT2_(256MB) | EXT2_(256MB) |

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
My card is partitioned using my G1 and is ext2, swap, fat32, as far as I know, you only need 1 ext2 partition, and it should be the first partition on the card, this is perhaps the reason that it insists in installing on fat32, if that is the first partition. I would try wiping the SD completely, and repartition with ext2 - 256mb, swap - 64mb, and the rest fat32, see how you get on with that.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Philux:
Thanks for the quick reply. Just to make sure, I still put the andboot folder in the FAT32 partition correct?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Yes, the android installer can only use fat32 partitions for installing or updating, it also uses it to dump certain files, such as bootlog, and dmesg.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] w0ngj0w0:
how to play youtube video?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
On this build, and many others, it is not working, which was the reason it is scored out in the 'working' list on post one.

I am hoping to find a solution to this, but have not managed to get much further at present.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] spaic:
issues with radio

I'm having issues with the data connection and making calls.

When APN is not configured, the phonecalls work.

But when an APN is configured it does not connect to 3G/GPRS and i cannot make calls.

When i dial a number it says "dialing" but does not connect the call. When I hang up (end call button or via the touch) it says "ending call" but does not do it. the call remains active in the notifications area.

Also, the battery is WAY wrong. in WM it says above 50%, in android it shuts down because of low battery. It also drops very fast from 80-90% to 15% (the wrong android indication).

and the camera does not work (main camera). Camera application crashes.

Android: Polymod 2.1D - dark version - downloaded from the first post of this thread.

Device: KAIS 130

Radio: 1.70.18.02

WM: eOS FiRe (6.1)

should I try another radio?

EDIT: changed radio to 1.65.21.18 and it works (apparently). camera still not ok. I will be watching the battery.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mr_pablo:
I am having issues with some apps not working (force closing on me after opening them) such as Barcode Scanner and Google Goggles.

Could it be i didn't wait long enough after skipping the intro screens? (waited approx 10 minutes?)

Also, a couple of the live wallpapers just show white when previewing them.

using a HTC TyTn2/Kaiser

EDIT - I'm also having issues with the batery meter being totally wrong. Phone told me to plug in my charger as it was on 15%, after a few minutes, its shot upto 70%+...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Both barcode scanner and google goggles use camera, so there may be issues if they try to capture video, which will cause FC's for sure.

10 minutes should be enough, I'm probably paranoid with the 15 minute wait.

Not all live wallpapers will work, some are just too demanding on our kaisers, basically the simpler ones should work ok, the more complex probably won't.

Battery issues are also common on new installs, since Android has no way of knowing the capacity of the battery at first, the usual workaround is leaving it plugged in overnight, and slowly android will build up a profile of your battery, it will become more accurate with time. On a related note, this affects all Android devices, even native ones :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Philux:
I have tried a couple of times to edit the NBH to 85MB (for System) but I can not install androidinstall from andboot when doing this.

Am I supposed to install normal NBH and then install anroidinstall from andboot, and then flash the Modified NBH (with Sytem 85MB)?

Kind of lost because the errors I was getting.

And of course I am no help with the exact error message :D:D, something about unable to mount/unmount data. :confused::confused::confused:

EDIT: Answered my own question. Re Flashed after first normal install.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Philux:
Do you have/or know where I can get the clock app that displays the time properly in 240x320 @ 120dpi? Right now at that setting the clock is half cut off.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] spaic:
nope... did not solve the data/call problem. it only appered a little later...

did anyone have this issue?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] spaic:
what is the correct partition order on the SD card for a SD install?

I have:

sdX1 - ext2 aprox 512MB

sdX2 - ext2 aprox 512MB

sdX3 - swap aprox 64MB

sdX4 - fat32

and I cannot install (whatever the build).

having all the problems I stated before, I decided to repartiton the SD (before I had |fat32|ext2-256M|et2-256M|)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mr_pablo:
I am still having major issues with the battery life and display.

Charged the phone fully last night, unplugged it before going to sleep, only to find it turned off in the morning.

turned it on, showed plenty of battery.

later it died at about 1pm after a quick phone call.

Anyone know how i can fix this and stop the phone randomly turning off (its happened a few times now - sometimes during calls)

Really liking the fact I can use Android instead of WinMo, but I have yet to find a ROM that is stable in terms of phone calls and battery life :( (that said, I havent properly tried Myns Warm Donut - is this any good for Kaisers?)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mr_pablo:
Found another problem with my Android install :(

When writing a message, typing in the name, the auto-complete is very sketchy.

It will pick up some names, even then it will only show 1 match, but quite a lot of the time, it simply refuses to find a contact that is in my Contacts list.

Any help on this one?

Ta!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] matcha20:
Hey Zenity, really liking the build. I had switched from polymod 2.1d to the new froyo, but I'm back! Anyway, I'm just having one problem, which is that I am no longer able to set ringtones under astro file manager. I was just wondering if you can point me to where in the system folders I can move ringtone .mp3s so that it'll be recognized by the system?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ghghgh14702:
Mine is fat32 (or maybe ntfs, can't remeber but shouldn't matter) first, then 260 mb ext3, another 260 mb ext3 and then 76 mb swap and I install fine. I believe you need the fat32 first with the andboot folder having androidinstall in it or haret won't find it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Hyperfly:
Wifi doesnt work with 2.1d build on my Polaris (HaRet install). :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Not sure why wifi wouldn't be working, it does on Kaiser both haret and nand, however it may be something that is particular to polaris, sorry I'm unable to offer much more than general advice.

Try switching wifi on before running haret, see if that helps, as always, radio version may be an issue, but again I don't know enough about polaris to say upgrade or downgrade.

If everything else is working fine it may just be one of those weird things that happens.

@matcha20: I usually keep my ringtones on SD, in /media, however I also convert them to .ogg rather than MP3, although this should make no difference. In Android they are in /system/media. To add files to /system you will of course have to run the rwsystem script in terminal beforehand, to give you write access to /system, and rosystem to set it back to readonly once finished.

If you have edited the size of the system partition you may not have much room left.

Regarding SD partitioning, I still use my G1 to partition, and only have 1 Ext2, 1 Swap and 1 Fat32 partition, the Fat32 partition must be the first partition on the SD.

@Mr_Pablo: To calibrate the battery it is better to leave the phone on charge overnight, if you stop charging when Android thinks it is full it will not calibrate, leaving it on charge will.

The way it works is this, once Android says 100%, if the battery is not fully charged it will continue charging until it is actually 100%, the OS will recalibrate to take account of this, and become more accurate over time. Another possibility is that the battery is actually not in great condition, under WM this is not such an issue, since WM uses less power anyway, but the higher drain of android will show up any faults much quicker.

Also it is a very good habit to leave the phone on charge every night, this will not affect the battery as much as letting it run low will, and will accelerate the calibration.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] someguy124:
Everything else looks fine, but for me the dialer when I click the Phone is cropped. You can't see the 1 2 3 Numbers in the first row.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] n2rjt:
This is a frequently asked question, for any Android recently on these phones.

You're using the new 2.6.32 kernel, aren't you?

If so, the wifi module /system/lib/modules/wlan.ko) in the Android build is not compatible with the new kernel and needs to be replaced.

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=389254&d=1282909102
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] wallsg:
Same problem as a recent poster: WiFi works, but no cell data or voice connection.

Phone call attempt says "dialing" and then stops. Trying to hang up just stays there forever (hangs up in a different way) but can navigate away.

"Scanning for Network" (or whatever) hangs as above. Testing GPS finds 8 satellites inside my house, so that works.

Through WiFi I can connect to my gmail.

I'm an AT&T subscriber and the default settings in the APN selection seemed right (and I set it to selected as it initially was not), but I'm a newbie to Android so what do I know.

This is a SD install. Downloaded the stock Polymod 2.1D "Final-dark.zip" and only modified the default.txt as below. Everything else default. I followed the SD setup (including the waiting) post at the beginning of this forum.

I had similar problems with Froyo.

Kaiser (Tilt)

WinMo: 3.57.502.2 WWE

Radio: 1.65.21.18

Protocol: 25.88.40.05H

set cmdline "ppp.nostart=0 pm.sleep_mode=1 lcd.density=120 mddi.width=240 mddi.height=320 no_console_suspend board-htckaiser.panel_type=2 board-kaiser-keypad.atttilt=1 hw3d.version=1"

If you have any tests you want me to try just let me know. I'm a software engineer back to Ye Olden Days when processor names were either four numbers or started with a Z.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
I notice that your radio version is 1.62 series, from my experience this may be too old, I recommend trying 1.65 minimum, which should help a lot.

There is some indication that the radio version is location dependant, since 1.71 seems to work fine in the US, while 1.65 works in europe, asia, africa, and south america, ( this may be due to these areas using older systems).

Anyway, try 1.65 first, and then 1.71 if this does not help.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] spaic:
I've had the best success setting "ppp.nostart=1" and then starting it from the modem app. (in myn's warm donut).

If doing this it would restart the modem (a few seconds of "no service") and then it would re-register, and it would work properly (radio 1.65.xxx).

But anyway I had very big problems with the battery. It would go very fars to 15% and then a few seconds later it would shutdown. After rebooting in winmo I would get battery level reading of about 60% or more. Any way to load a battery profile or something? It is very annoying and i quit using the android. (I need to use it as a mobile device - on battery)

EDIT:

now i am trying ahain with radio 1.71. I had 1.65 and 1.70 before, to see if the phonecall/data problem is solved.

not having the modem app, I did not set ppp.nostart=1, because i don't know how to start the PPP.

In my opinion it looks like the data connection keeps the modem connection busy, not being able to connect to the internet and not allowing the issuing the ATD command to make the call or the ATH to hangup. This is just my oppinion. i don't know how to test my hunch. (sniff the modem connection? watch the PPPD? anyway I don't know how.)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mr_pablo:
Has anyone encountered any problems with receiving text messages?

I had to re-install Polymod the other night due to the Froyo ROM I tried being super slow.

I have had trouble receiving texts from my GF (no idea if anyone else has had texts no reach me)

I get most of them, but a lot are failing to reach me. Anyway to determine where the problem lies?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] wallsg:
I corrected my typo: 1.65.21.18.

FYI, I had the same problems with Froyo with these radios:

1.65.21.18

1.70.OliNex (unlock program radio)

1.71.09.01

I switched back to the stock radio for the AT&T-supplied ROM before trying this distribution.

Not that it matters here, but I have SPL-3.56.Hard installed. I played around with some pre-WinMo 6.1 cooked ROMs.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] wallsg:
OK, tried with "ppp.nostart=1" and I can make a phone call. Clicking on "Market" gives a white screen with "Loading" that immediately drops back to the default page (what WinMo would call the "Today" page) and clicking "Browser" tells me that there's no network (both expected, of course).

I can't find a modem app to start the data connection.

"Settings->Wireless & Networking->Mobile networks->Network Operators" still gives the "Searching" and then I get an "X" over my signal strength indicator. Tried it again and it found Cingular and Voicestream Wireless. I selected Cingular.

Phone Status shows Mobile Network State as disconnected.

Switching on WiFi allows access to the Market. On a hunch, searched there for "modem" with no luck. Phone calls still work.

Restarted with "ppp.nostart=0" and the phone calls stopped working. Mobile Network State is stuck on "Connecting".

BTW, "Reboot" locked up on me instead of rebooting. I had to soft reset.

Is it true that there's no built in file browser (and text editor) in Android? That kind of surprises me.

Where can I get a key mapping for this distribution? The tutorial won't progress past the first page, "Learn how to use your HTC Kaiser". I'm having to guess what keys do what and they seem to change on me. "OK" sometimes backs up and sometimes puts the screen to sleep requiring me to slide the unlock icon. Extremely frustrating.