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[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Sorry I don't quite understand your 1st comment (may just be me being daft). - Ah no, I understand now...just realised ... I remember I tried and failed to fix it in the last build because I didn't have chance to test it. However, I know I tested it this time, so my development build does have the fix in. Once things are back and running will continue with the other bits, hoping I can complete some MAJOR features (although may adjust the gui a little, not quite finalised that yet).

What does your cab do, it is just the files or does it do stuff with sense too?

Update on development system...Was slowed down by waiting for IT to resolve things, now taking things into my own hands and fixing it myself.

Fingers crossed!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] jirkab:
It's just a standalone installation RSS tab Sense without Sense Utils and without 26948339_manila file. I add tabs manually/automatically over XDA_UC after hard reset/flash new rom (without Sense Utils).

Maybe someone will also use.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Ok, the cab will be the same or similar to the separate cab, just the tab files and no sense util.

My development system is almost back and running now. Will re-flash my phone while I am restoring things, so should have a nice clean system to work on.

UPDATE:

Development system is back and running.

Sense is working much better on the new ROM, plus I am now able to resolve some of the initial setup issues for the tabs.

Just updated SenseUtil to remove the "Unable to update file" message (will update the files soon).

I now just need to work out why the default display of the RSSTab (i.e. on 1st install) is not showing the no items messages.

Ah, messed it up, pressed "List" and my items all appeared...oh well will have a look and see if I can work that one out.

(Ok, I think I've worked it out, it is due to the numbering of items - the 1st item is 0, so the item count is 0...sense reads the registry as 0 if the entry is not present...).

I was determined not to let PC failure kill off my project, so I can now say that the project is back on.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] light_n_roses:
Hi meltwater !

Is there an italian language files ? as I have tried to install rss tab but i got the languge problem...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
There is a language file, but it is only at Rev1 so will need updating to the latest template (5D3CA1C8_manila):

it-it --> 0CB20886_manila (Rev1 - thanks to bbonzz)

You are more than welcome to translate if you are able to, if you need any help then let me know.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Move or create new thread?

What are peoples thoughts on moving this thread to the "Windows Mobile Apps and Games" section?

I think now the project is out of it's basic development stage it will be helpful for new users to be able to post on the thread and where it is now (in the dev section) that is not possible.

Alternatively, I can create a release thread for the app, much like I had for the FbTab, that way I suppose things like theme discussions, language files and more detailed low level stuff can still be handled within this thread. Or simply keep everything in one place?

Which do you think will be best?

DEV UPDATE:

Just about got my latest dev version working on my new rom (it was crashing sense until I took some bits out). All set to continue where I left off - finding 101 ways to kill sense, hoping for that 102 way which doesn't.

Finally got the Update Bar message to update for the fixed header! That has taken far too many attempts to get working.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] sharkie405:
I think having another user thread in the Apps section is a good idea. It would probably help more people to notice this great development.

A dev thread need not be clogged with every new user asking the same questions over and over and a user thread really doesn't need to have all the dev talk in it since a lot of that would be way over some noobies' heads and would probably just cause confusion and make things more difficult than is necessary for noobs.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] light_n_roses:
I'm busy until marth the 3rd, then I'll have some free time and I will translate it !
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Yep, I was thinking the same (I can focus the initial posts and links here to things like creating themes, experimental features etc). Plus I can keep posting development updates without spamming people who aren't interested (that is if anyone is...;)).

1.

I'll start building the thread etc then.

[UPDATE]

RSSTab Project - Release Thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=967252

2.

By the way, I also started a thread in the off-topic section (although perhaps it's too On Topic..I don't know):

[Q] Can you recommend some good RSS feeds?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=965919

3.

Also wondering, is there much value in the combo cab, it is probably easier/safer for me to produce the two separate cabs.

I just worry that building the combo one requires pulling in the senseUtil files each time and that could cause an error at some point. At least with a separate cab it can be checked once and then used where-ever.

Updated the zip with the latest SenseUtil cab - realised that the combo cab also has the issue that it pulls in the latest RSStab files too, so much greater chance of problems when I'm mid-development.

I've removed the combo cab - Let me know if this is an issue.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
OK, it may not seem like much, but I've managed to get sense to allow me to select & highlight one or more items from the lists.

It's been very tricky to do but it is essential for how I want to GUI to work (and sense is always the difficult part).

Does anyone know easy way to turn on and off the wifi? Just need to know how to do this for another feature (either a reg key or exe to call?).

UPDATE: Found wifi_ON-OFF.exe which I guess is part of CHT. Just need the registry key to monitor the wifi status now.

UPDATE2: The guys on the CHT widget thread kindly posted the wifi switch code, has everything I needed! :D

:D I think the next version will be quite interesting! ...Once it is completed of course.

UPDATE3: I think whatever stage I release this at, I'll do a beta first since there is a heap of new stuff which will need checking out. Unfortunately a heap of stuff which still needs doing though.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Hope everyone has had good weekends, I've made some good progress with the tab (putting in changes into the sense side of things). I'd say I'm about 50% there with the changes I want for the next release.

For those keeping score, Dev ToDo List:

1. Feed download ok, still need to process/merge file for use. Item 9 is key for this as it will allow tab specific settings to be used for each feed (and ambitiously I want lots of useful options).

2. Sense bit mostly done. App code to do.

3. Not started yet - but shouldn't be a big problem

4. Not started yet - if I can find the correct point at which to do this, it should be fairly quick to do.

5. Done! After lots of goes, worked it out.

6. -Rev2.2.2

7. -Rev2.2.2

8. RSSFeed produced, app code to do.

9. Initial screens done, plenty more to do.

I might see if I can squeeze in a small update before then with some of the little changes, as its been a while since I've released anything (what with the rebuild of the pc etc). But I'll only do that if I reach a good point to do so.

PS: The release thread has a poll to see if/how people are using the tab etc, so please feel free to post etc.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] drdingdong:
RSS feeds do not display. RSS tab installed correctly. RSS feeds can be read on RSS hub, but not in the tab. What am I doing wrong? Kindly assisst me
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Making great progress with the development, have been testing code for updating the feeds....

The current method is working for 16 out of the 19 feeds I've used so far. Still have some issues to resolve, but overall it is shaping up ok. Obviously definitely not ready for general use (YET), but enough to build more of the framework on and put the overall general processes in place.

There is a lot which needs to be done for updating a feed:

- first you get the raw xml data (while handling issues such as do we have a data connection etc)

- then it needs to be imported as an xml document (probably with encoding translation - I suspect this is the 3 failed ones because of the hack job MS did on compact .net removes some encoding support)

- then each feed item needs to be matched with items in the old feed (no unique ids so this can be difficult as encoding/rsshub changes things)

- any added info in the old feed needs to be transferred/handled (read status, podcast data, received times etc) so feed/item status is preserved.

- new items, old items, read items etc need to be handled as desired

- deal with downloading of any extra required files for each item

- the summary file (channels.opml) then needs to be updated with details about the feed (number of new items, podcast status, update times etc).

- then fingers crossed the resultant files saved and hopefully they load (without loss of read status or required items) and still work in RSSHub!

Oh and all that is for one feed...

Also, I've managed to implement Item 8:

- Automatic update, allow check of Tab version and download latest if available.

At least, the checking part and that is working nicely. I've not put in the code for the download bit yet, but that should be fairly straight forward to do.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] JediDevil:
I have the same problem.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Hopefully you have the same solution too. Resolution should be on the release thread (rss feeds need to be in categories - a bug on my part, will be fixed in next version).
[Windows Mobile Software Development] JediDevil:
okay. Thank you. I will test it later.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Teaser

Thought I'd give a peek at the current development version:

Dev_ItemSelection.jpg

Note: Just using the default theme at the moment, should be able to tailor the selection highlight as part of the theme file. Also will tweak the icon placement later on.

Dev_ManageFeeds.jpg

Note: Ignore the ## marks, they are just place holders to remind me to add them to the translation files.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] wstephen:
Language File: zh-tw

Meltwater,

I found zh-tw language file: 1378D3AC_manila is not working:

(1) It isn't displaying UTF-16LE correctly in an XML editor, and came up with gabbled characters on the manila page. Probably, a coding error at time of compilation.

(2) The version as stated in 1378D3AC_manila is Rev 2Beta and it isn't containing the same number of lines and stuff as I find on the 23A721E6_manila (us-en) one from rsstab-6377.zip.

In brief, it was wrongly coded and out of date. I spent some 3 hours converting it and was meant to PM you. The PM function here in this forum doesn't have the utility to make an attachment:confused:. So, I need to do it in the thread.

Hopefully, this will contribute!;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Thank you for your fine work. It is fine in the thread, I'll post the file on the language post and update the details in a while.

I tend to leave any file which has been translated at their last version so it is easier to determine what parts need to be updated to up rev to the latest (or it would be easy to overlook untranslated text). From time to time the files which aren't translated will get updated to the latest template. I do also try to make sure the format is the same to allow easy checking via win-merge.

Unfortunately, my language skill is zero so that is about as much checking as I can do.

At some point I will try to display the language file Rev and Author directly in the settings page, which will hopefully help things out.

Anyway, thanks again and don't forget to PM me your donate key from the settings page in return for donating your time and effort.

Update for development... Just got a feed to update directly in the tab without dropping any of the RSSHub information (read/unread/podcast info etc). Still needs a little more work (and bells and whistles) but I may be able to cut it down to the basics for a beta at some point.

Also, checking for the latest release is also functional in the development version, just need to add a little code to allow selection of the download location (and if possible a progress bar for the download bit). For a new release I just need to add an item to my release feed with the required link to the file, quite handy really. I think to start with I'll make it a manual check (button press) but perhaps later on get it to check on a monthly basis (when doing other feed updates maybe), not sure.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
I've just updated the development to do list:

http://rsstab.codeplex.com/discussions/229811

I've posted a poll to help me decide what I should do next with the project.

You have two weeks to decide, which will give me chance to hopefully get a few more key features implemented.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] miomio:
italian file

Italian file. i hope it's correct
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
I'll check and post it after the weekend. Thanks for your work!

Don't forget to PM me the donate code from the Advanced Page within the Tab's settings.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] wstephen:
Some Improvement Suggestions

Meltwater,

Many thanks for the beautiful App. Instead of the black letters over a white background offered by RSS Hub, your App gives us a lot more choices and viewing comfort. Before you would direct more of your effort onto the other areas as it sounds in the Poll, I would like make 1 request and suggest some improvement. Hopefully you may consider.

Request:

(1) There is a Mark Six Drawn Result RSS announcement here. The RSS Hub is able to display it, but the Tab reports an error reading it (see the screenshots). I am attaching the channel's XML file (Ch109.txt) to see you may help.

Suggestion:

(2) I am not able to update the channels (not just the missing data) directly from the Tab (no such utility) yet. The Documentation appears to say that it is possible to update the channels using the Facebook Tab via registry values...

(a) Is it saying "if there is a channel update function working on the RSS Tab then there'll be NO Facebook Tab?".

(b) The RSSFeed.DataDownload I found on the User Manual appears to have nothing to do with channel updating functionality. Have you any worked/Real example to demonstrate the how?

(c) Will certain soft toggling button be looked be in the project?

(3) Display font size adjustments for the RSS Tab will be fantastic.;)

Thanks again!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Thanks for the excellent feedback!

Yep not sure what other sense projects would be, if that indeed ends up being the result then I'll try to find out what people are after. Hopefully will be more votes and I can get a good idea of what people would like.

(1) Is that with the read all/unread all option available? The mode which has read only disabled uses a different method for reading the rss files (so have a try with it enabled). It's something which I'm working on as part of the new code (compact .net is a little tricky to deal with in this bit - it doesn't like some encodings of some files when using certain methods and functions).

I will add it to my test feed section on my list and I will include it in testing of the development code.

(2) Nope this is one of the features I am working on.

Which bit of documentation is that? It must be something from when I first started the project (it's roots are from the facebook tab thats all, I think that's from some of my original testing).

a) No the RSSTab is now totally separate from the FbTab (I just started testing displaying data in it first to see if the tab would work).

b) Update will work with the tab as it is.

Planning a number of ways for the updates to work (not all will be available to start with).

- Within the feed list there will be an extra menu button which will update all the feeds in the list, the will also be a selection mode where one or more feeds can be selected for update.

- Within the item list there will be an extra menu button which will update the currently displayed feed.

- There will also be a feed manager which, in-addition to other things, will allow you to update one or more feeds, as well as define how the update is done and the update schedule etc.

(3) The font can be changed in the item view display (using the CSS file), but not in the tab. I can add the option to the theme file without too much trouble, so will do when I get chance and then the font sizes will be adjustable. Eventually I hope to allow the user to set different spacing for each feed for the item view depending on what they would like.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] wstephen:
Thankyou

Thanks for the exellent and fast reply, Melt

So happy to learn you have these development goals in mind and in details.

Yes, I could not get this CH109.eml loaded on either condition. With the "Read Only" on, 90% of the Chinese feed items would show up garbled (as if it were a font problem) except the Channel List. The Channel list is displaying fine both with the Read Only option checked & unchecked. I have only one podcast channel, it is working exceptionally fine both with the Read Only on and off.

You're right, I could not remember from where and when I had downloaded this documentation. Downloaded the old version sometime ago but didn't have the opportunity to test it until now. It is a needed application to support the RSS Hub. I can see the project was founded to avail a lot of display customisation on users' benefit, and it's further development can have no limit.

I compared the performance of pRSS Reader to the hTC RSS Hub. I found pRSS Reader (http://code.google.com/p/prssr/downloads/detail?name=pRSSreader-1.4.5.cab&can=2&q=) more powerful (reads a lot more diversities of RSS formats than the RSS Hub does), more user friendly. Not sure you also have the experience.

A big thank for hints on the CCS file...spacing....font size. I'll be busy playing with it.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
You are welcome.

Glad to hear that the support is better without the readonly option, it is down to how compact .net deals with file encoding, I couldn't use my original work around on files I needed to change so I'm working on another method.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] eboelzner:
Sorry for the delay getting this update to you guys... have been VERY busy, but here ya go... SenseSDK.v1.50

Lot's of bug fixes, and some new features too!!

In the ROM that I cook for the Imagio, I have replaced this version for RSS Tab, Facebook Tab, and Cookie Home Tab Editor... with no issues, actually fixes a bug in CHTEditor 2.0!!!!!

Let me know if I can be of further help... Ed
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mike2nl:
Hi meltwater...

a long time agoo i was an active member.....but i am back. I have read so may things that guys have told the users about his work. Crazy, my work around x-mas, and these guys post this as his own work. I can' t believe it. But XDA is informed about that issue.

Back to business.

I have to hard reset my good old HD2. Bacuse that my question: is there something what i have to know about the good and working RSS tab?

Good to be back from a hard job
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Excellent news. I'll try out the dlls and let you know.

Not sure I understand you on this, whats up?

Well to keep your settings etc, just save any reg keys from manila section with "RSSFeed." and to keep your feed data make sure you have your channel data folder saved (obviously if it is on your storage card, it should be fine).

Development update:

Have been a little busy with other things recently but did some more at the weekend. Out of 67 feeds, I think I had about 64 update successfully.

- Two failed because they also included extra info for displaying in a webpage (so I just need to parse that out before using them)

- One failed, because I have one which is invalid (I kept it because it checks what happens if no feed data is present).

- I think I even had one which updated when RSSHub wouldn't.

Need to do some checks for the file encoding, will need someone to do some tests with me on it. Still find it annoying wm does not support ISO-8859-1 or gb2312, (I'll have a look back over the thread and see if I can spot the ones which had problems). Or if there are any particular problem ones you have then let me know and I'll test them.

Currently testing with:

[user_99]'s Reported feeds

Ch101, Ch103, Ch104, Ch107 - I think are now working! Even on my display

[ric69]'s Reported feed - I think is now working! Even on my display

[wstephen]'s Reported feed - fixed it (issue was in the code rather than the file)

Ok, I think it may have improved the encoding issue, I am not sure if it has totally fixed it yet though. Would be interested in testing some non-UTF8 encoded files for languages such as Chinese, Hindi etc (i.e. non iso-8859-1).

Also re-checked:

[winderp]'s Reported feeds

gb2312 is still not working for me, but I think using the old method I was unable to see it, so I think it may be down the device supporting it or not. Unfortunately, compact .net doesn't support many.

Still thinking about how best to handle downloading things such as podcasts though.

REQUEST: Anyone able to post mlang.dll off of their device, hope to be able to use this file to improve language support.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
I'll continue testing the files as I set to work on the next bit.

Gradually making progress.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Ok so the poll results are in....

3/10 - new release/beta ASAP

3/10 - waiting longer for a release

4/10 - other WM/Sense projects

1/10 - Android projects.

Right well, can't really say there is a clear winner here, except perhaps wanting other sense projects (I'm guessing that means the FbTab), however out of 10 votes can't really claim it to be a conclusive result.

I think this is what I will do...

I'll continue work on the features which I am currently in the middle of, and then I will start to release beta builds with more and more parts enabled. That way I can continue work on the sections which aren't totally ready yet but we can get some new builds rolling. Hope that sounds ok.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ric69:
Hi Melt, it's impossible to copy this file :o What should we kill before ? I have 1 mlang.dll and mlang040c.dll
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
yeah I had the same problem.

For now don't worry about it, hopefully those which need it will have the correct one on their device, I was just interested to see what I could do with it.

Thanks for giving it a go!