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[EVO 4G Android Development] chumba8:
Hey so couldnt I go back to like 1.3.2 or 1.4.7 since my evo has been rooted since june 3rd lol I have backups from org 2.1 that shipped with root lose root and reroot at higher pri?
[EVO 4G Android Development] n1gh7m4r3:
nothing will upgrade your pri to 1.40 after it has been downgraded, not unrooting, not using an ruu not getting an ota update, nothing... that we know of at least atm but lots of people are looking into it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] chumba8:
o ok thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] nYdGeo:
That's cool, too, that's just not what dozens of posts in various forums and numerous websites report. You may be absolutely correct, but in case you'd like to see where I obtained the info I have its only a Google-search away. That's how I found it, over and over again.

I was made to understand that the engineering ROM that brought this all about was not specific to any phone, but was pure, engineering Android OS, and that as it happens in this case, was created for development with the Eris.

I repeat though that this is simply what I read from numerous sources, but will not state it as fact. I don't want to provide the folks that live to correct others any more ammunition.

Thank you for your time.
[EVO 4G Android Development] johnboy797:
Noob

Ok so I have an unrooted evo with the new update from the provider, can I use this or no?

yes I am a Noob, formed iphone owner converted to Android.

Thanks.
[EVO 4G Android Development] c0t0d0s2:
Yet another dumb question. Has anyone called sprint and asked for the PRI Update?

I might do just that next week if nobody else has.
[EVO 4G Android Development] coil1002:
I was just going to ask How I have pri 1.40 with root but I used Pc36IMG. I am newbie so maybe a stupid question but I assume I can now flash any rom I want with out worries of downgrading my PRI ? I am running the new Froyo rooted rom

Thank

Coil
[EVO 4G Android Development] negativefx:
Making a warranty claim on your phone. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't 1.34 pri older than the version that shipped with the phone? Bummer if you make a claim and have to pay for the new phone because Sprint smarted up and starting denying claims because there's an easy and irreversible way for them to identify rooters.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cloud858rk:
This is correct. However you can install the fake 1.40 PRI to make it look like it has never been rooted if you really have to.
[EVO 4G Android Development] epphllps:
Just out of curiosity....how would this work with refurbed phones? Would HTC use special software to wipe phone completely and update pri to 1.40??...

Sent from my EVO, the true iPhone killer!
[EVO 4G Android Development] n1gh7m4r3:
yes the response i got was they do not have the file... cough cough bull****

but feel free, the more people that contact them, the more the are going to acknowledge a problem exists imo at least
[EVO 4G Android Development] cloud858rk:
I think it's reasonable for Sprint not to have the file, maybe call HTC? :p
[EVO 4G Android Development] Geniusdog254:
Ahahaha that made me LOL

I wouldn't throw it out yet. Anybody got a friend in the NSA? Wanna get us access to their supercomputers for a few years? :P haha
[EVO 4G Android Development] c0t0d0s2:
As soon as we get Feynman's quantum computers up and running it'd be cake. Only we've been trying for something like 30+ years so far.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ruskiyab:
Are PRIs like PRLs where they are the same across platforms? If they are, it may be possible to pull a PRI from a WM RUU or rom and use it?
[EVO 4G Android Development] mycalw:
could this work?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=748458
[EVO 4G Android Development] negativefx:
Do you have a link on how to do that?
[EVO 4G Android Development] ruskiyab:
Never mind looks like the version numbers for WM devices are off
[EVO 4G Android Development] n1gh7m4r3:
Yeah I must have read his original post wrong I did email HTC and not sprint
[EVO 4G Android Development] omegasun18:
if you have developer credientials they might acctually send it to yout hough i kinda doubt it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kindaskimpy:
Just tested

I'm rooted... always have been, and as such, I have the 1.34_003 PRI. Out of curiosity, I ran a few tests of my 3G speeds on different servers and I wasn't impressed with what I saw. I'm in Miami, FL and I tested with servers in the following cities and got these results: (photo evidence attached)

Down / Up

Jackson, TN: 753kbps/714kbps ping 212ms

Miami, FL: 626kbps/459kbps ping 573ms

Ft. Lauderdale, FL: 596kbps/492kbps ping 263ms

Tampa, FL: 450kbps/453kbps ping 387ms

Boca Raton, FL: 376kbps/246kbps ping 218ms

Tallahassee, FL: 192kbps/263kbps ping 999ms
[EVO 4G Android Development] cloud858rk:
Yes I do. http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=7267559&postcount=66
[EVO 4G Android Development] negativefx:
Thanks! This will probably do the trick.
[EVO 4G Android Development] iam87x:
Hey guys, I'd like to help with this 1.34/1.40 issue. I have an unrooted Evo to work with and I'd like to dump/extract/copy whatever files it is that yall need to help get this bus rolling. I'll have this phone tomorrow night, but if there are any steps yall can provide for me now.. It would make things a lot smoother I actually get my hands on it.

Thanks.
[EVO 4G Android Development] l33tlinuxh4x0r:
currently we need root to extract what we need but currently root changes the PRI and my files don't give you root :(
[EVO 4G Android Development] jrmithdobbs:
Do you need userland root or engineering hboot to get what you need?

I have an un-rooted phone running 1.32 I could get root inside of Android without downgrading hboot if you can figure out how to dump from inside of Android.

Edit: and I can get a proper busybox installed on /data to get dd.
[EVO 4G Android Development] SilverZero:
Well that's a catch-22 if I ever saw one. :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] larrybiggs:
Does unrevoked get you anything? I still have 1.40 and am rooted (without nand unlocked of course)
[EVO 4G Android Development] davidlightle:
I think I have an idea on how to get root + NAND-unlock without downgrading PRI. If we can find how to extract the PRI (rcdata.img) from a rooted/eng HBoot phone, then we can look into my idea more.

For now, I've dumped all of the MTD partitions and did a search through them, but found no reference to 1.34_003 nor 1.40_003. Not sure if something may have been wrong in my search, but makes me think rcdata.img does NOT go to an MTD partition.

I did some research on the partitions and IMG files from the RUU ROMs, and I believe there are some IMG files that don't go into the 1GB of NAND ROM, which I think means they go to the radio's NVRAM. If someone a little more technical can help confirm this, and also speak up on how to pull a dump of the radio, that would be great.

I've even thought that an electrical engineer (-type person), could possibly do a dump of the radio outside of the normal OS boot, in case that's not workable.

Any sanity checks (something I'm missing, something I'm wrong about, etc.) is welcome as well. :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] cj10488:
Lets just say this.. Yes the PRI is linked from the RCdata.img file and this file plays a role in updating the PRI. Yes it can have adverse effects on data depending on location but in most cases unlikely.

James
[EVO 4G Android Development] litlepyro:
OK I read the whole thread and havent seen this mentioned yet. As an Andoid NOOB I hope this helps but its just my 2 cents. On the windows mobile devices, we used to be able to the PRL and the PRI over the air through a built in update utility from sprint. Has anyone tried going back to the stock (non-rooted) ruu and then tried to update the PRL and profile to see if it would update their PRI. Just taking a shot in the dark.
[EVO 4G Android Development] SilverZero:
When you root your phone, it automatically downgrades the PRI regardless of what you were on before. That's the whole problem - you can't have both at the same time. Getting one takes away the other.
[EVO 4G Android Development] litlepyro:
Didnt the OP say he has a new PC36IMG that will not overright the PRI though?
[EVO 4G Android Development] sk63:
Yes, but you can't flash it without already having the downgraded bootloader because it is not signed with HTC's release keys. However the team at unrevoked should be releasing a exploit that removes the signature check so we won't actually need to downgrade to the older bootloader in order flash roms. So those of you that still have 1.40 can keep it but have all the benefits of those with 1.34. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=750273

Those of us, like myself, that have 1.34 are still out of luck, but there's hope. Theoretically it should be possible to dump the partition that contains the 1.40 PRI then create a flashable upgrade, but we have to wait until Unrevoked Forever is released.
[EVO 4G Android Development] litlepyro:
It was worth a shot. Thanks for the info!
[EVO 4G Android Development] dangerruss:
Wouldn't it be possible to brute force hack the htc keys using nvidia graphics processors..? I know its been successful in cracking wpa protected key in no time. so anyone willing to volunteer a quad sli alienware?
[EVO 4G Android Development] v_lestat:
no offense my friend but you did NOT just say a quad SLI from

Alienware

did you.

who in their right mind would pay Dell twice as much for such a thing.

real men/women build their own, and if you have to buy one... well.... you need your weener smacked.
[EVO 4G Android Development] YenahsYenzow:
(laughs) I second that! *middle finger Dell, Compaq, etc* Its always better to build your own computer...only I wish we could BUILD PHONES along with customization options! Someday....someday these dreams will come true!
[EVO 4G Android Development] sk63:
Brute forcing this is nigh impossible. Based on some back of the envelope calculations, using a top of line personal system, which I estimate around 10 teraflops, or for my calculations, 10 trillion operations per second, a 1024 bit RSA key would take around 3,000 years to crack and if they used a 2048 bit key then number jumps to around 10 trillion years.

To put that in perspective, the largest processing power available today is the folding@home project at just around 3 Petaflops (3,000 teraflops). If this large amount of power was used it would still take 12 years to crack 1024 and 50 billion years to crack 2048
[EVO 4G Android Development] snandlal:
Yikes....big numbers
[EVO 4G Android Development] kf2m:
Damm I ran out of fingers...
[EVO 4G Android Development] superevilllama:
Just run it through TRANSLTR lawlz =].
[EVO 4G Android Development] a2k:
Damn! *** Slowly putting my TRS-80 back in my closet ***
[EVO 4G Android Development] sk63:
Encryption is pretty cool in that it can takes longer than the age of the universe to crack it, but our phones can verify a key's correctness in just a matter of seconds.

I just know some of the basic theory underlying encryption but most of it's way over my head.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public-key_cryptography

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetric_key

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_size
[EVO 4G Android Development] rjmjr69:
Someones got to work for the government and has the master key just need to get them to kick it in lol!!! Where are the aliens?
[EVO 4G Android Development] johnboy797:
The aliens are guarding the keys...
[EVO 4G Android Development] Crotchety:
So we should get started on this sooner rather than later. The sooner we start the sooner we finish :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] edtate:
Alrighty, now that unrevoked forever is out, could we hypothetically nandroid back to say stock 1.47, then update using the ota and have the 1.40 pri updated? Then after that just use whatever method was posted that keeps the 1.40 pri and be set?
[EVO 4G Android Development] sk63:
No, read some my other posts on the subject.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dis39tif:
Alright guys I have a stock non rooted 2.1 phone.now that unrevoked forever is out can I help in getting the image we need to do this?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Cordy:
Figured I'd chime in on this. Since you're phone is nonrooted presumably with the 1.40_003 PRI on a rootable system you can use unrevoked 3 to give yourself a custom recovery as it doesn't touch anything else. Then you would use unrevoked forever and would be able to flash the eng hboot gain access to fastboot and then be able to pull the nv.img which would have the PRI. Of course you assume the risk and responsibility that goes along with the whole process.
[EVO 4G Android Development] sk63:
I suggest you try PM'ing a someone like toast or the unrevoked guys. They may be able to point you to who you should talk in order to contribute to the process.
[EVO 4G Android Development] zikronix:
I got 5.00 on this guy. lol

GO..GO..GO.
[EVO 4G Android Development] reigndropz:
lol.......

I was actually trying to do the same. I can't seem to downgrade though. Having too many issues getting the EVO to take an older ROM
[EVO 4G Android Development] dis39tif:
Haha, hey I'm happy to help out but I'm at work now. Maybe a dev or someone like Cordy could give me some more specific instructions on what I can do. I'm no stranger to the command line, programming, etc. but I'm still new on Android. I left my phone stock on 2.1 because I wanted the upgraded PRI and wanted to see what 2.2 looked like. If I can help now with the PRI great; but I'll need someone to walk me through what to do.
[EVO 4G Android Development] davejet:
Flying to Jamaica I will be back at 4pm and on irc if a dev wants to try on my evo I have 2.1 pri 1.4 no root
[EVO 4G Android Development] superevilllama:
If I was flying to Jamaica, I would leave my phone at home. Take the time to get away from the phone!!! Enjoy your trip =]
[EVO 4G Android Development] snandlal:
The PRI is not in NV.Img!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] kaediil:
As posted in a different topic, I am currently on 2.2 rooted, I have run the unrevoked forever process and so now I have S-OFF and PRI 1.40 HBOOT .79.

I will try to contact a dev to see what I can do as well.

-frank
[EVO 4G Android Development] xHausx:
Anyone know if the PRI the same across all phones? If so couldn't we just use one from another device and flash it over ours?
[EVO 4G Android Development] BigJesus:
I take it you have not read even one post in this thread.
[EVO 4G Android Development] superm1:
Just to be clear, you started out with the env hboot, ran unrevoked forever (to get s-off), restored the original hboot in the ruu, and now the PRI is 1.40 for you?
[EVO 4G Android Development] xHausx:
The PRI got replaced because it is signed into Toast's Eng hboot, which was previously needed in order to access the partition with the PRI on it.

Did I miss something or are you just trying to troll me since it seems like that is what your all of three posts have been so far.
[EVO 4G Android Development] muf454:
this was his post in the unrevoked forever thread if it helps...
[EVO 4G Android Development] kaediil:
No. I ran unrevoked 3 when I was on 2.1, then installed the rooted 2.2 stock that netarchy posted here. At this point I was only partially rooted, without nand unlocked in Android. I did not do the second part of the 2 part root and never lost the 1.40 PRI.

Then I ran unrevoked forever so now I have nand unlocked and S-OFF.

-frank
[EVO 4G Android Development] pboy1026:
I was on the same boat as you (unrevoked 3/rooted 2.2 stock/netarchy kernel). After you installed unrevoked forever how did you verify you have nand-unlocked? Did you continue on with step 2 of root?
[EVO 4G Android Development] fldash:
Did you check your forum PMs? I thought someone said they were PMing you about trying to extract the PRI...
[EVO 4G Android Development] karikian:
More for the bounty $10
[EVO 4G Android Development] zikronix:
that was me. I put him in contact with toastcfh, and a few other devs. I also sent instructions and linked threads of partitons availaible.
[EVO 4G Android Development] n1gh7m4r3:
If you do step 2 of toasts rooting method, your going to loose the 1.40 PRI
[EVO 4G Android Development] dis39tif:
Looks like kaediil was quicker at applying forever than I was. Anyway, let me know if you need another 1.40 pri for anything. As long as we can get it out to everyone else it's all good :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] litlepyro:
OP, in your first post you were able to package up the 1.34 PRI and put into an update.zip. Are you able to do the same thing with the 1.40 PRI? Please help, there are many of us that have not been able to update to the 1.40 PRI.
[EVO 4G Android Development] chummer360:
that would be awesome!
[EVO 4G Android Development] roghaj:
I think that is sort of like telling a doctor that he made your clamidia go away, Can you go ahead a cure cancer too?

There are people working on this. I am checking the thread because I am one of the people that doesn't seem to get the update through OTA activation.

-Roger
[EVO 4G Android Development] gbhartia:
Hi Guys...

Even I have an unrooted evo with OTA 1.47. Lemme know if I can help in any way..

I do have an idea... maybe use unrevoked 3 to root, then turn S-OFF and then use [OP]'s PC136IMG to get full NAND unlock... then try and dump the PRI for you guys (if you know how to..)

I am a Noob, so you people would have to help me out in the above steps.

Would love to help in any way i can...
[EVO 4G Android Development] taverentech:
Regarding the PRI... haven't we figured out a way to dump the PRI on a rooted and nand unlocked phone yet?

I have two EVOs both rooted. One with 1.4 PRI and one with 1.34 PRI. If someone could advise me how I could dump the PRI from one to an image file and then install it on the other... I'd love to nail down this problem once and for all. It took me 34 tries to get PRI to update on my first EVO and now I'm on 40+ on the second and its still not updating.... in order to make this bullet proof, we just need to create a PRI image file... so how can that be done?
[EVO 4G Android Development] taverentech:
PLEASE - when posting stuff don't make everyone read every single thread. This msg should have included WHERE to get YOUR PC36IMG.zip and and md5sum. Every single reverenced to a generically named file should include an identifiable locator and md5sum. And all download references should include md5sum or have one at location you're referring to.

I see way too many useless posts because everyone is lazy and likes to use pronounes and assume that everyone knows what exact is it, that, I just tried it! wtf is IT?
[EVO 4G Android Development] taverentech:
If anyone figured out how to dump it ( PRI from phone ) I have two EVOs exactly configured (rooted) except one has PRI 1.34_003. and other 1.4_003, only one is active at a time. I cannot get my 2nd EVO to update using ##786# or ##data# method (50+ tries now).

So, I'd love to know exactly HOW to dump (via ADB or whatever) the PRI and create an rcdata.img with PRI 1.40_003 in it... and then I'll test flashing/updating that on my 2nd EVO.

Please, anyone actually know HOW to dump PRI on a rooted phone? I can flash ANY ROM if it matters.
[EVO 4G Android Development] taverentech:
I submitted a support request to HTC online (figured why not) with SN of my spare/2nd EVO and said that I bought it off ebay and it was rooted and I wanted to put stock image back on it (yeah right) and revert to stock but my PRI was still 1.34... could they provide me with correct PRI to bring it back to sprint stock....

They told me to take it to a sprint store and have them reflash the entire phone there....

Personally, I don't think the person had any clue wtf I was talking about... like most tier1 support people they have no idea what the question was... nor that PRI is not part of ROM/update.
[EVO 4G Android Development] taverentech:
I wouldn't use terms like unlikely. There are way too many variables for you to make that statement. Location matters, and not signal strength... geographic location. I'm in Scottsdale AZ and I saw double data performance when I finally got my PRI to update 1.4 on my rooted Fresh Evo 3.1.0.2 phone. However, I bought a spare evo, set it up the EXACT same way... yet I cannot get it to update the PRI. Its performing the same as my first Evo. My first one was back in June, this one from Aug.. so maybe they have different hardware in them.. who knows.. but you cannot make a claim like unlikely when it comes to PRI and data speeds. Not unless you have pulled verifiable data from 80% of service areas and tested with both versions of PRI on the 80% most popular custom ROMs.
[EVO 4G Android Development] SayWhat10:
+1

need that
[EVO 4G Android Development] bluediablito:
so what would be the current status of this?
[EVO 4G Android Development] hondoslack:
I'd have to say that this is a dead issue for now. It really is saddening that with all the talented individuals in this forum, that no one has been able to rip the 0's and 1's off the appropriate partitions, and make a .img file that we can flash.

On the other hand, I suppose if the PRI were so important that we all needed it, HTC should/would have released it by now, no? You can bet your bottom dollar Sprint will NOT help anyone out in this regard, as the 1.40 PRI was on our phones when we received it from them. And for that matter, it was when it left HTC's production line, so we're probably SOL with them too.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Jim M:
Sprint and HTC have released a Fix Over The Air (FOTA). It just doesn't seem to work for everyone. Some have luck in a few tries, others have tried over and over again and are still stuck with 1.34

My phone came with 2.1 Eclair and PRI 1.40_003, I did the unrEVOked3 and then unrEVOked Forever. For some silly reason I thought I should have the ENG Bootloader so I flashed the PC136.img, which downgraded my PRI to 1.34

It took a while of trying the ##786# but I eventually got the FOTA, so all I can say is for guys to keep trying the ##786#

And if you have not Rooted your phone, just sit tight and wait for unrEVOked 3.2 as it will not change your PRI.

But if you want to run some of the custom ROMs you may have to get the ENG bootloader as they look for it when installing, then you just have to wait for the FOTA to work on your phone.
[EVO 4G Android Development] spencelk:
I rooted my other phone yesterday, using the long method of the 2.2 root and I kept the 1.4 pri after everything was done...
[EVO 4G Android Development] brianwilcox:
I also rooted today. Used the beta of unrevoked 3.21 and then flashed Fresh ROM. Im rooted, S-OFF and still have the 1.40_003 PRI.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xHausx:
is anyone still working on this?
[EVO 4G Android Development] l33tlinuxh4x0r:
NO, Project DEAD, Mods please close.
[General Topics] Numsefis:
Hello guys.

I was wondering which mobile i should select with android?

I'm planning to switch out my Xperia X-10, due to the lame software updates (only 1,6) When i bought it for 4 months ago, SE promissed a software update with 2.1 or 2.2 within 2-3 months. But still no sign of anything

I'm confused about selecting a HTC Desire, or a Samsung Galaxy S?

But i've read alot about many problems with the samsung mobile, so maybe the HTC is the best? HTC is very serious about software development, the Desire already got 2.2

Greetings M8's
[General Topics] mezo9090:
Imagine that just when you get rid of the x10i they upgrade it :)

sent from my x10i that is banging for a 2.1 upgrade. ...
[General Topics] orb3000:
Desire I would choose as it´s HTC:cool:
[General Topics] DangerPanda:
I find it kind of odd, that in my homeland Taiwan, where the company HTC is; people there aren't exactly a huge fan of HTC products haha. Sorry off topic.
[General Topics] Numsefis:
I Also think that the HTC would be the best choice.. seems like Samsung do have a lot of bugs in there phone.. but maybe it would be a good idea to wait, and see if SE are coming with that update before Christmas.. but will it then take about a half year before 2. 2 is released again?
[General Topics] fantasytozi:
If u want sth up-to-date sooner that anyone else, get a N1

U can run Desire rom on it as well

The poor build of Galaxy, no flash and its home launcher is a let down for me :)