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[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pack21:
If HD2 comunity won't have in Developing house the Master devs that have at moment, I wouldn't believe in this stuffs port, but how they work for us, I'm very optimist they port the gingerbread.

But realistically speaking, if they give us, a froyo 2.2 stock build, like HD2 was a original Android device, for me is enough, and will be forever gratified for the Devs....

If ginger comes better, if not, no problem.

WM dies for me, in the day MS make the statement, that will not give the WM7 upade.....horse for them.....minus one WM7 embassador.......better for Android SO win a new crasy and devote fan.....( I know iPhone SO, Palm Pre, because have one of wichother in the house).
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Breakthecycle2:
Yes they will. The Nexus is one of the first phones to get it.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] poweroutlet:
The nexus one will get gingerbread for sure, no doubt at all. Meets all requirements and is the official google dev phone. Other phones with similar specs may get it as well (desire, etc). Regardless of who else gets it, I'm sure HD2 will get is, this is friggin XDA. The devs here are known to be able to do just about anything.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MvP77:
+1 as someone else said it may even come to the grand daddy of them all, the G1.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abdulsheikh007:
i just care the htc hd2 getting a nand android (OEM) ofcourse, i am the one who sticks to the oem philosophy..........
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] poweroutlet:
Yep, remember people said that froyo couldn't be done on the g1 and look what happened.

Our HD2s meet all the requirements for gingerbread anyway, our hardware is very similar if not nearly identical to some of the other phones which will run gingerbread. I can't imagine it being that hard for the devs.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ArsonALL:
Double Negative... If you DON'T believe the Nexus One WONT get it, then you DO believe it will get it... So everyone pretty much knows it will...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dcordes:
possible yes. easy is another question. but that's what we there for.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HotShotAzn:
and it is VERY much appreciated!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nsnthuan:
Leave it to cotulla and his team to do the impossible. If our hd2s qualify as far as hardware goes then im sure we can expect a gingerbread port to hd2 within the future.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hegemytouch:
I would love if we got gingerbread when it comes out...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] malias4:
I said that i think desire n nexus1 wont get the gbread bs till then mayb new phones are in the market so probably companies aim 2 make sum money. But if they give it to the old devices the new phones wont sell so good. But than any way thats my opinion, and also i meant oficialy prob they wont get it. Bs with xda everything is posible..
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mystik610:
Why wouldn't the new phones sell as well just because the older models get the gingerbread? I don't see people passing up the EVO, or the Droid X, Samsung Galaxy,etc etc because the older phones got Froyo do you? Each iteration of the iPhone had access to the new OS's and features (except those that were limited by old hardware), and the new model iPhone still manages to sell out every year.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 619619:
That's right, but as long as the new devices have a better hardware, if the newer devices have the same hardware but different software, I'll stick with my HD2 (Eg: The Desire HD, 1Ghz snapdragon + 512Mb of ram, same as my year old HD2)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] poweroutlet:
I don't know about the other phones, but the nexus one will get it for sure. It is googles official development phone and it will be for sometime. It would make no sense to not release gingerbread for nexus one.

As for the other phones like the desire..well that is probably up to HTC, so not sure about that.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pack21:
Could run gingerbread on HD2, would be "la creme de la creme" for the old HD2 owners.

.....Hehehe.

My question to Devs, is; - if the actual Android/HD2 tree (when finish) could help for future ginger port, or must start from 0 compilation.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Buster3616:
The HD2 will definitely get Gingerbread. So will the Nexus and all like phones.

As far as the debate of Nand vs SD, our phones don't run Android off the SD now, they simply load it from there, once loaded it is very much on the internal memory of the phone. This is why you dont see a difference between class 2 and 6 cards, it runs the same, just boots faster.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 11calcal:
Of course they run the system from SD take your card out after running for 5 mins and watch it crash, therefore the files running are fed by the system files on SD. If it was on internal mem you would be able to remove SD totally and it would continue plus check any of your internal memory files there's no trace or android being there!!. Hd² will get gingerbread as its basically the same phone with some different specs-after all the nexus is made by HTC and that's where this phone originated from
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
android cant be on the internal memory of the phone because nand isnt working in android at all.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Buster3616:
........The phone loads android from the SD card and puts it on the internal memory. It doesn't stay there, hence not booting from nand. Android is running off of your internal memory. It occasionally references the SD card files, but it is actually running on the phones memory. That's why there isn't a noticeable speed difference in SD card classes, and there won't be a significant speed increase once (if ever) Android is flashed to the nand.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
ahhh we had a mix up in terms, i thought you meant internal memory as in nand but you mean it as in ram, am i correct?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chris2busy:
Yea thats probably what he meant..the system runs in ram once the files required by the system are loaded there, so its reasonable that if u remove the SD card and try to load something that hasn't already been preloaded in the RAM , the system will hang..and it also is the reason we do not get the full phone's ram available while running android in this pattern.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] corlygunnz:
I'm with you, xda do the impossible........ android on the hd2 is the example.....jajaja
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chvvkumar:
What I find funny is, the HD2 getting froyo before native android devices LOL. Following the same, it is obvious that gingerbread is not that big of a jump from froyo than that from nothing to android on the HD2.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Reignzone:
I will admit, this would be rather impressive to have on an "outdated" handset when that time comes...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ferdaus:
:D that is quite true! I can imagine we got the haters not only from other winmo phone, but from other android phone too.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Buster3616:
Exactly. So everyone should keep their pants on regarding nand. Personally I like the dual, or tripple (I use ubuntu also) boot option. Especially if it comes with little or no performance disadvantage.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] callmecooper:
lol at the people in this forum. i guess its because i've been an android user since day 1 with the g1. That and the magic were the first android phones released ever. shipped with android 1.1. good 'ole days.

android roms arent phone specific. Its open source, and scalable. Some manufactures like HTC and samsung like to put their own spin on it, but the heart of android is all the same. per version i mean. like all 1.6 is the same, all 2.1 is the same.

So to answer your question, yes if 3.0 Gingerbread will be shipped to any phone, the devs at xda will MOST DEFINITELY port it for different devices. its in their blood.

Honestly, i think 3.0 will be predominately for tablet devices. Like the rumored google tablet. But, there is good hope for it to come to handheld devices.

You guys, should honestly check out some of the other forums on xda, like the G1/Dream and mytouch and nexus 1 forums. LOTS more development going on than in the thread. Not hating, its because they've had users a lot longer for android. There is some really sweet development going on there.

Cyanogen, is one of the kings in ROM development, is also one of the ports for the HD2 by shubcraft. All of his work is really nice. I think if he got an HD2 he would make some ROMs specifically for this device.

anyway im going on a rant now, so im going to shut up. i just thought that i would drop my $0.02 in there.

happy devving
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fuzzysig:
so does anyone else besides me feel like the companies are raping us?

i mean the phone hasnt even been out for a year and if a new OS is beeing released i think we are entitled to the update.

the phone is not even out of the warranty....

even for a small price i belive that we should have the option of updating the device while its still under manufacturer warranty.

i just think its fkd up to pay for a phone that will become obsolete few months after its been released.

i mean its not like a PC where we have a choice of updating the operating system.

the OS is locked in the phone so we can only get it from the manufacturer.

and if manufacturer drops the phone right after its release and introduces essentially same hardware phone with NEW os right after thats is a RIPOFF.

just shows how much HTC cares about customers i guess...

you want upgrade? buy a brand new 600 phone right after you just bought one with old ass OS...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tgtoys:
:confused: Um....yeah...so you do realize that the HD2 does not come with Android, right? Of course a normal Android device will get the update at no charge, but the HD2 doesn't even have any form of official Android release. Only what's been developed here. So what is Google/HTC going to upgrade?

I'm sure our devs will come out with an HD2 Gingerbread release at some point, but nothing will come from Google or HTC. Unless they acknowledge the insane market for Android on the HD2 and decide to bless us with an official release of some kind. :fingerscrossed:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lilly0x:
That would be amazing :D:D:D:D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ryan562:
Some details on what Gingerbread is all about and when it will SUPPOSEDLY be released:

-Android 3.0 Gingerbread will be released in mid- October (around 15 -16th), 2010.

-First handsets shipping in November/December – for the Holiday Season.

-Minimum hardware requirements for Android 3.0 devices are: 1GHZ CPU, 512MB or RAM, displays from 3.5” and higher. (We all, of course, heard that Android

handsets with 2GHz CPU’s are coming)

-New 1280×760 resolution available for the devices with displays of 4” and higher. (Anyone thinking about Android tablets now? )

-Completely revamped user interface. If you want to get a feeling of what Android 3.0 Gingerbread UX is like, check out the Gallery App on Nexus One. The same overall feel, light animated transitions,etc. Natively, through all the UI.

Android’s split into 2 branches becomes official. 3.0 for top of the line/high end devices. Cheap, low-end mass market handsets will keep Android 2.1/2.2

source link:

http://www.unwiredview.com/2010/06/30/android-3-0-gingerbread-details-1280x760-resolution-1ghz-minimum-specs-mid-oct-release/
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Blades:
It seems to me that the SD card access requires more CPU, but that could be a windows mobile thing. Its strange because I believe the controller is onboard the card. The max transfer rate is 100 megabits/sec - perhaps we'll get a taste of android on the upcoming class 10 cards. That said, I've never seen near equal speeds on my phone as I would with the card plugged into the card reader on my laptop. There must be a bottleneck on the bus it rides on.

Back on topic, what's with the expectations of higher requirements of what is (or perhaps what should be/should've been) essentially a newer distribution of Linux? Improvements don't always mean higher requirements. How badly are they going to bloat it up? Stereoscopic menus with Michael Bay phone call effects? Crap, we'll need faster processors for the new and improved ads we'll be subjected to.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jalaluddin:
First off all be patient and let them first make a stable Linux kernel ,

Secondly the Minimum hardware requirements for Android 3.0 devices are: 1GHZ CPU, 512MB or RAM, displays from 3.5" and higher.

And Leo does meet this.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jammie_1989:
1ghz check

512 RAM check

4.3" check

:)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] itzsnookums:
ok here is a question...

im just curious why some of these developers here on this site don't work for google????? just curious...IMAGINE A DEVELOPER FROM XDA WORKING AT GOOGLE......we would essentially have a inside guy (who can speak on our behalf).....imagine the possibilities that would open....=-)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] murattiss:
Sounds for me like in a pc harddisk is faster than ram:confused:

Can we not compare NAND to ram or ssd disk in a pc?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] benoitb85:
:D yeah that makes sense, this is why 1GB of RAM costs the price of a 500GB HDD :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tech Savy:
Yes... Thinking Of Tablet Next

:D:D:DYES... My next purchase will be an Android Tablet for sure... I will still use my HD2 for awhile longer... Will wait to see what new phones come out in mid 2011 and 2012... Waiting to see nidvidia chip phones and duo phones that are due to come next year or 2012....:D:D:D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lemonspeakers:
Dude, is this question even necessary? You're on XDA developers... what are your worries? :confused:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kroukes2000:
I think that Gingerbread will be just a minor update and the version will be 2.3 not 3.0, need confirmaion!!!

edit: http://www.unwiredview.com/2010/10/23/android-gingerbreads-launch-date-gets-really-close-as-giant-gingerbread-man-arrives-at-googleplex/
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ducter:
You have to understand that what the Devs here on XDA do, while great, is not Developing much of anything. More "porting" whats been developed, doing some tweaks to the code available. I am not saying that some of them couldn't work for Google but I am saying that many of them couldn't without a good deal of educating.

I know of a few off hand that could give it a run, but out side of the few most do not have the ability to develop from scratch. The ones that do, well thats where we get our "meat and potato's" from lol.

Its much easier to port and tweak than to develop from nothing but a beginning line of code is all I am saying.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mattfmartin:
Linux its open source. So everybody pretty much shares everything
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] holiday039:
Isnt the HD2 fully capable of running the updated os?

i have a rooted g1 running cyanogen gingerbread mod and it works FINE :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] macsoft:
Hi,

I', writing this in hope to track de developer of this app. http://www.jgui.net/smsreportseraser/

I've boght it a while ago, and now i've changed phones, and need a new unlock code, and the developer does not answer on none of his e-mails for a a couple of months.

The site is still up, and people can still pay for the software, and last update was on February, so if someone knows here to find JGUI please let me know.

Thank you
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] makskylan:
I see that there is a new radio out. What does this improve? I have no 4g in my area. Do I flash it like I would anything else? Do I have to wipe anything first? I am running DC 3.5 rom. Will this improve my browser speeds and downloads?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] topdawgn8:
Just flash like any ROM. You may notice increased performance...it actually depends on where you're from. Some radios work better for others in different locations. Trial and error.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Ceger:
Is there a way to run a widget such as the 4G toggle widget from the taskbar instead? I would like to be able to turn on 4G from the taskbar.

Ceger
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Jnorthplaya:
Does anyone know where i can find the Native 2.2 keyboard for froyo 2.2 ?

I have searched high and low and have not found it....

I have also searched forums..HTC keyboard annoys me for some reason.... too much going on.

I would very much appreciate it if you could anyone could assist me... Thank you!!
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] barnacles10:
A quick search for "stock froyo keyboard" brings up 2 links pretty much right under this thread actually. Did you really search? :D

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=743726
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Jnorthplaya:
=o/...

I really did lol.. just new to forums I guess.. Gotta work on my string search abilities.

you're just a ninja -_-

Thank you!!
[Hero CDMA General] MrGreg:
Thanks for the instructions, you rock. This will help immensely for adding an option for roam only. I got it working for Fresh, but there were problems with other ROMs. I'm thinking your info will help resolve the issues.
[Hero CDMA General] Big-O-Devil:
noob Q. is there a flashable file...
[Hero CDMA General] c00ller:
That's pretty pro
[Hero CDMA General] Nieylana:
i can make one, but you still have to resign your entire /system/app and /system/framework...

i could include those in the update.zip for you if you are running DamageControl 2.09
[Hero CDMA General] Big-O-Devil:
Hmmm... I'm running Zen... so I believe it should work.... :-)
[Hero CDMA General] Nieylana:
i dont think an update.zip full of DamageControl system apps would work on a different ROM... if u can resign the system itself as described above... i can make an update.zip for you with the Phone.apk in it
[Hero CDMA General] Big-O-Devil:
Ok....
[Hero CDMA General] Nieylana:
Zip Format

please please please make a backup of your original phone FIRST!

adb pull /system/app/Phone.apk Phone.bak

if you flash this update.zip for the new phone and it keeps FCing on you you'll need to either A) flash the Original i've provided in a zip format or reboot into recovery and push your old one back.

you MUST resign all system files like i've described above for my mod to work...

place the below files on your sdcard and flash away... :D

I do not promise anything unless you are running on DamageControl ROM 2.09
[Hero CDMA General] Big-O-Devil:
ummmm.... ok so after 2 or so hours... looks like it only works with damage rom.... somewhere some how there is something that is not letting this work... i wounder what it could be,,,,,,, :confused:..... any way great work thank you for your help.... :)
[Hero CDMA General] Nieylana:
maybe i'll see if i can't get a working one on the Zen rom... any version info i need to be aware of?

EDIT: I'm assuming you're running this ROM....http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=662113

EDIT2: Here you go, as long as you're running the above rom... it'll work, tested it myself :D

http://www.mediafire.com/?kiaqt264culyt96

vibrate is off by default :D

to re-enable the vibrate go into Settings->Call->Phone Settings and there's a checkbox for Vibrate on Outgoing
[Hero CDMA General] Big-O-Devil:
Actually I'm running Zen Hero fx....
[Hero CDMA General] Nieylana:
here: http://www.mediafire.com/?s1zkx93bcnmjfxc

for Zen Hero FX 2.1 Lite

flash this zip and wipe the cache...
[Hero CDMA General] Big-O-Devil:
this is sweet...... again thank you for all your hard work.... it works like a charm....
[Hero CDMA General] Big-O-Devil:
Hey Q. Do you know anything about vibrating when you press the dial pad... I'm looking thru settings but can't fine it... do you know if its something like this.?.?.
[Hero CDMA General] Nieylana:
I can mods that too for you if you would like. Let me know.and the best part is now that u've flashed that zip file, all u'll need is a diff phone app (smaller download :D )... will work on it tomorrow :D
[Hero CDMA General] FdxRider:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=660506

check out this thread bout haptic dialer

Never mind believe he was talking bout adding the option of turning it on and off
[Hero CDMA General] Nieylana:
a few problems... it doesn't seem to haveit's own settings page (cant use the Phone Settings page... different package), nor can i seem to add a button to the thing :(.. will try later
[Hero CDMA General] Big-O-Devil:
sounds like a real head-buster.....
[Hero CDMA General] :
Don't know if I'm allowed to do this ,but maybe if you used JsChiSurf's Dialer Without Haptic Feedback .zip and opened it up maybe will lead you to the right place?
[Hero CDMA General] Nieylana:
I know how to disable haptic feedback. Just not how to make its presence optional.
[Hero CDMA General] Nieylana:
HtcDialer MOD

here we go!

download attached .apk file

run the following commands from ADB

with the HtcDialer.apk from the last command being the APK you downloaded from this post.

How to use:

When inside the Dialer screen press the MENU key and you will notice a button that says "Toggle Haptic", it does just that. and a Toast message shows up telling you the current status after you click it!
[Hero CDMA General] Big-O-Devil:
again thank you for all your hard work...
[Hero CDMA General] :
Yes Thank you
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] boohoo2u:
Is there Firewall app for Windows Mobile, so if another app wants to use your data connection then it prompts you to Allow or Deny it? e.g. OK for weather updates and email, but not other apps if you don't want them to.

I've done a search in these forums but nothing is coming up as related.
[HD2 General] Robrecht:
This is a minor problem but I don't know what to make of it.

HTC's Music Player seems to have a couple of "favourite" songs, albums or artists that get extremely disproportionate airplay when I shuffle a playlist.

Say I shuffle a genre that contains about 40 entire albums (400+ songs). There's this one album ('Sno Angel Like You by Howe Gelb, if you must know) with about 15 songs on it, and all of them typically get played within the first 20 songs of that shuffled list. And there's a couple of other individual songs that show up remarkably often as well.

I've observed this for some time now and the bias is too obvious to be a coincidence or a false impression. It's nothing big, but slightly annoying to get the same songs all the time -- kinda beats the concept of shuffling, doesn't it?

I know it's a long shot, but does anyone have a clue what's going on here? Or a solution?
[HD2 General] Ghost_ghost123:
I am soooo glad it is not just me that has noticed this!

It frustrates me immensely! :mad:

Would love to know if there is something that can be done to resolve this....
[HD2 General] topgeeza:
i get this too...it's a real PITA!: -)
[HD2 General] ccezar2004:
same here....
[HD2 General] coolfire:
Glad I'm not the only one as well! seems like Music Player's kinda biased, no? :p
[HD2 General] kswissonez:
Wish I could be of assistance to you and myself included... I want variety everytime I play my music, so lately what I've been doing is switching from shuffled to normal, so now I can remember what song will be played next in a shuffle which is pretty sad :(