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[Galaxy S I9000 General] JaY_III:
For everyone in the Vancouver area.

The Bell in Lougheed mall (burnaby)

Has lots of working phones.

3 for 3 i tried all work.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Elrondolio:
I've now gone through two phones and neither can get in to recovery/download mode. The first I bought on the first day they were available (from best buy) with a serial of xx58xxxxx.

Yesterday I called up both of my local Best Buy's and one of them had none in stock, the other had 1 only... but its serial was indeed xx65xxxxx. Based on the serial information provided here and in the wiki, I went ahead and did an exchange for it without testing as it was the only one they had anyway. It, too, will not go in either recovery or download mode - continuously reboots like the other.

So... the serial# of xx65xxxxx doesn't guarantee anything. I'll be back at Best Buy on Tuesday when the get more stock and try-before-exchange any they have.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
return it, then get an exchange, test the new one using volume down + home + power
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
no worries, we understand your frustration.

When HTC magic was first released they had the exact same issue, some with working download mode, some without.

considering this is Samsung's first AWESOME phone, i'll cut them some slack

they just need to improve their QA (Quality Assurance) process, and not let those with defective Download/Recovery mode out of the door.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] galaxyluv:
I went to exchange mine at Best Buy as recovery/download mode is not working, they called Bell to see if I used the phone over the 30 mins and I had....

So the rep at Best buy told me I had to deal with Bell now, and it might take dayssss for Bell to "repair" my phone...

I really wanted to apply the lag fix, anyone knows if we can still do it without the 3 button combo or what are the rules of exchanging the phone with Bell (it hasn't even been 14 days)....

Thanks
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Frostshock:
If you enable USB debugging you can use adb to apply the lag fix, without checking the instructions you'd do something like

adb reboot recovery

then apply the update.zip. But it will also root the phone so I wouldn't do it just yet if you plan on exchanging with Bell.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
that's right, if you do plan to exhange the phone, there is no point doing it yet.

wait for the new phone, then do it.

yes it is worth doing the lag fix, even if the new ROMS are already improved, the extra performance you gain using the "lag fix" is amazing. :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] galaxyluv:
thanks for the quick reply guys....

but does anyone know how the process is exchanging with Bell? does it take a long time, will I be without a phone for a long time?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
yes, aprox 3 weeks, i'm on my first week

yes, no phone loaner yet, because it's too new

luckily i sitll have my Euro version of the SGS 9000
[Galaxy S I9000 General] galaxyluv:
wow approx 3 weeks, and i dont even have any other phones!!!

that is not fair! lol

looks like I'll have to do without exchanging...i'll try the lag fix with adb option...

i just searched for it.,,,is there any specific how tos for people that don't have 3 button combo?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] JaY_III:
I just went through this exchange and will share my story with you.

From my experience the bell staff at the stores have no idea what recovery or download mode are. Trying to tell them that its really a feature, just your phone is missing it is like getting blood from a stone. You need to show them download mode or recovery (go with download as its easier to get into) for them to look at you like you are not crazy.

So in order to return this phone, this is what i found out i had to do.

-Go to a Bell store and ask to see the demo phone.

-Boot phone into download mode.

-Show them thats your phone does not work.

-Proceed with the exchange. Yes you have 30 days for a defective unit exchange.

-if no demo phone, or demo doesn't work ask to see one other phone.

-Attempt to go to download mode.

-If you can not get into download mode at this point you are wasting your time at the store.

----

- Once you have found a store with a working model expect to no be able to get it.

-You will be told to go to the original store you got the phone.

-explain that that store has no working phones

-with any luck you can get it.

In my case i had to return to the original store i got the phone from

Return the phone

Go back to the store that had a working phone and get that one.

Returning phones is a nightmare

North Vancouver Bell on Lonsdale has NO WORKING PHONES

Coquitlam Center Mall Bell has NO WORKING PHONES

Loughead Mall in Burnaby HAS LOTS OF WORKING PHONES

hope this sheds some insight
[Galaxy S I9000 General] galaxyluv:
Thanks JaY_III

Was yours bought from a Bell store? Mine unfortunately wasn't bought from a Bell store, it was bought from Best Buy.

Best buy told me I had to deal with Bell because I had surpassed the 30mins, which I guess means I have call them and go through the hassle and the long wait of replacing the phone.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] JaY_III:
yes from a bell store.

IMHO your best bet is to find a store that you can get the demo model into download mode.

If you cant show them, they have no idea what you are talking about. But you do have 30 days to return a defective product.

The bell store i got the phone from had and has non that work so in order to get them/ force them to be able to return the phone i had to get a support case number generated.

Call 1.887.data.123, its bells technical support if they give you grief at the store.

They will provide you with a number to give to the in store bell people that forces them to have to accept your phone back and give you a new one
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Bobler420:
does any one know of any best buys in the lower mainland with working sgs ?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] arr0ww:
Call the Coquitlam BestBuy, i had them check their new shipment for a phone that went into recovery mode for me and swapped mine out with no issues. Ask them to try it out on some and save one for you.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] JaY_III:
Coquitlam Bell SUCKS the staff is not cool.

That is if you are referring to the one in the mall.

They made it very hard to exchange my phone.

And i still dont think they believe you can even get to download/recovery mode.

Ended up getting my replacement in Burnaby as they currently do not have ANY (as of Sunday) working phones.

Goto the Bell in lougheed mall.

3 of 3 i tested were working.

The staff is great at that store and will have NO PROBLEM with you testing 1st.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] arr0ww:
Whoops...i ment the Coquitlam BestBuy...yeah the coquitlam mall bell store...DOUCHEBAGS
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Bobler420:
ya i will do that for sure all the best buys ive gone to have had them all disabled and the first phone i got with both recovery and dl mode i found a dead pixel :(
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Singhman:
I thought the gps was fixed because after i installed the update my gps started locking in like 2 seconds. But after 2 days, its again working occasionally, and many times it just searches satellites. I wonder what causes gps to work great at certain times, and not work at other times? I think its for sure a software glitch, whereas it works after you do a certain thing on the phone, and then a program makes it stops working.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Froster08:
With 'Use Wireless Networks' enabled under Location and Security in the Settings, I have not had any problems with Location/GPS. I presume the GPS is taking as long as ever, but with the cell towers providing a quick location and GPS taking over while using navigation.

So, double check that the phone is still set to use the cell network for location and that some app or setting has not turned it off.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Lightarrow:
So, i got a Galaxy S last week (12th) and it does not go into download/recovery mode. Today I went to the store i bought it from (Bell store in hull) because they received a new batch of Galaxy S. The lady let me try 3 phones, none of them had a working download mode or recovery mode. They all went in a endless loop. The serial number of all 3 had 69 in them . The serial number of mine is 64. Lukily, their demo phone has download mode working so i showed them i was not crazy and then she told me that she will give me a call next week when they receive another shipment. She also told me she would test the unit before calling to make sure it works. I wanna get one that works before my 30 days :)

Other than that, what a amazing phone :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] pure_energy1:
Well, my phone too ends in 64xxxx.

I went to the Bell store today and tried 3 units that just came in, all ending in 69xxxxx and they did not work either.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
ugghhh... sounds like another bad batch that escaped QA department :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
that's the most important thing

teach them how to get into the Download Mode, then every one will know what the buyer wants.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] andrewlim:
Bell's Technical support are useless. I wasted a hour of my life talking to them. I suggest going to the stores in person.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
welcome to my world :p

yes they are

they just answer the phones, and read what is on the screen

if it doesn't matching anything shown in their screen, they don't have a clue what to do next.

it's so much easier when you can walk into Bells Technical department, and talk to the guys that actually knows what they are doing, because they are repairing it right there.

unfortunately most bell stores no longer have those departments on site.

they used to in the past.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Muy5:
Realistically for someone who doesn't intend to be constantly swapping ROMS, how big a deal is having a phone that doesn't go into download mode? I already rooted mine and aside from the non-working download mode, everything else is working great. I really don't feel like trying to track down one with working download mode and no other problems.

Assuming the only thing I intend to do is install the lag fix and perhaps a rom of Android 3.0 when it is released am I reasonably safe keeping this phone? Or is it really a bad idea not to find one with working download? Honestly at that point I'd probably just return it and just buy a Dell Streak.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] DarthV:
Well things can go wrong when even flashing an official update, but it's unlikely. When you look at it, if you bought a subsidized phone, it didn't cost you $160 (or whatever with all the gift cards @ BB and FS), it's more like $2000 over 3 years with the contract. For me, that means any product has to be pretty much flawless out of the box or it goes back.

Don't get me wrong, I loved the S and I'll get another one once I can find a 3finger salute capable unit.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
that's exactly the problem

not sure if you have noticed, but many people in the forum have tried to install only the "one click lag fix" and they end up with a dead phone

the only way to get it out was to flash it with odin, since they can't boot past the logo

that's when the 3 buttons comes in very handy, else it's back to warranty, and chances are they will not warrant it, and you end up paying more to get it flashed again by Bell or Samsung

when you can easily flash it yourself if the buttons were working how it was supposed to be working.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jeutron:
I went to two different Future Shop locations in Edmonton today:

Northgate only had one in stock, aside from their demo model. The demo was a 59XXXXX and I got it into download mode no problem. Their stock unit was a 70XXXXX and it wouldn't go into download mode at all. They wouldn't sell either unit to me, since I'm not a Bell customer.

I also tried the St. Albert location since they had lots of stock. The salesman was utterly useless, and wouldn't let me test any unless I bought one first. I tried their demo model, and it wouldn't work, it was a 70XXXXX. The one he sold me was a 70XXXXX, and it wouldn't work either. I convinced him to let me look through the stock to see the serial number on each box, and I found a 59XXXXX, so I swapped it for that. Sure enough, I can get to download and recovery modes easily. He was scared of what I was doing the entire time. Maybe they should hire techie people, or train their sales people a little more. No one in the store had a clue when I tried to explain why I needed this feature.

short story: 59XXXXX worked 2/2 times. 70XXXXX worked 0/3 times.

I'd assume the 69XXXXX and the 70XXXXX are newer batches, how could this many new units escape without this functionality? Perhaps they've changed something. It doesn't make sense to me.

Now it's just a matter of unlocking it....
[Galaxy S I9000 General] colinandtara:
Wonder if the download mode issue is related to Kies update issues

Can't get my Bell Galaxy S into download mode (removed battery, pressed and held vol down, home, then power). Just keeps re-booting as others have reported.

Also, currently on version JG9, latest version of Kies I get the "this device's version cannot be updated" issue.

Wonder if the two things are related?

S/N under battery cover is XXXXX51XXXP

Guess I've got an oldie!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Leifer:
Just found out about this issue yesterday, and tried 20 times or more to get into recovery mode without luck. I bought mine opening day in Langley, BC at bestbuy. The s/n with the letters and numbers under the battery shows x#xx70###D4, if that is the serial number being talked about. The other long numeric one on the box showed ...59#####

I tried to exchange today at Bestbuy before the 14day but they wouldn't because of the over 30min usage. So now I am stuck, with either having to return to bell and wait weeks or hope it can be fixed through firmware :( with Kies . BTW I finally got Kies working on XP and XP mode inside Win7, couldn't get it directly to work on my Win7 64bit.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Bobler420:
langley that kinda ****ty as i was gonna go grab that one today too but thought 1 most likely will be bad SOO... i went to the best buy in new west on boyd street has an entire drawer full maybe if even sold 1 still have at least 6 got my from there today and it works :D :D 6 best buys later my code is 59xxxxxx those seem to work most of the time they also have 60xxxxx 61xxxxx

the person there didn't really believe me and they don't like doing returns from different stores but just tell her ever where eles is sold out
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Leifer:
Did they give you any issue with having used more than 30mins used or did you have less?

Did you buy it originally outright or on a contract?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Bobler420:
i bought my on a contract i am possiable going give up on sgs for now i think ANOTHER DEAD PIXEL this is my 3rd phone i didnt use to avoid 30 mins talk time

does any one eles sgs brightness flash back and forth in a matter of secs (auto brightness turned off brightness turn to full)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] pronger:
"serial number" being reported is actually just the sim card number

Guys,

I'm a little new to this, but I bought a Galaxy S from Bell the other day and have been following this thread with interest.

I just talked to a guy at Bell who seemed to know his stuff, he said that the number on the box that is described in the wiki is actually just the number of the sim card and NOT the serial number.

e.g. the wiki says: "example of full Serial # 89302610202006500000"

That's not a serial number. That's just the sim card number. If you look at your sim card you'll see the same number written on it. So the number that everyone is reporting on here and on a wild goose chase for has nothing to do with what batch the actual phone was from.

It seems that the IMEI or the actual S/N under the battery (which on my phone is like R2XZ7#####M) might be more useful for everyone to determine which phones will boot into recover mode and which phones won't.

Hope this helps.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Froster08:
When I exchanged my phone, the salesperson blacked out the 'serial number' on both my new box and the old one. I suppose now that this was because my SIM card was being switched between the new phones.

If we can find out how to read production dates, etc. from the serial number on the phone, maybe we can find a more reliable indicator for phones with recovery/download enabled.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] catsa:
What is the exact procedure to enter recovery and download mode? In the wiki it mentions nothing about taking out the battery. One would assume you press the buttons when the phone is turned off.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] K_19:
Power button+home button+volume down for download mode and Power button+home button+volume up for recovery, IIRC. You can enter it while the phone is on as well, actually. Obviously the phone's not going to work without a battery inside, but it's likely telling you to remove it so that you can remove the sim card since battery gets in the way (you don't HAVE to remove the sim card, but it's recommended anyways just in case).
[Galaxy S I9000 General] pure_energy1:
Mine is R3YZ8#####E and was purchased approximately 10 days ago. 3 Button does NOT work.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Frostshock:
Just got back from a Bell store. The employees were very helpful but the two phones I tried couldn't go into download mode but instead just did the infinite boot loop. They were recently shipped phones as they had sold out older shipments. They said I had 30 days for an exchange and to try a shipment from another week later.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
just a heads up, manual SIM unlock methods are available

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=747235
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Bazz44:
I know some of you are on the other side of the country, but there is a service department at Square One in Mississauga; for those of you who live near.

Will talk to the tech I was referred to at that location.

S/N: R5XZ7XXXX8X

Recovery and Download disabled.

We should try and figure out a pattern of the serial numbers for those that work and those that don't.

So far we have:

x#xx70###D4 - Leifer (might want to give the first set of numbers and block the rest)

R2XZ7#####M - pronger

R3YZ8#####E - pure_energy1

R5XZ7XXXX8X - myself

Or maybe there is another series of numbers we should be looking for...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tarambuka:
OK. Why don't you just post the details about this workaround so everyone with that problem can prove your point? That's the only way the proof of concept works in the cyber community.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Bazz44:
Could there be something in the dump files or any part of the software that may shed light on why the recovery/download modes are disabled on some phones? I wouldn't have a clue of where to look exactly, but something that handles features of the phone might be a good start if it has something to do with software. I can't see it being a hardware issue. Could be wrong, though. Just my $0.02.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
anyone cares to lead a bounty to make the 3 buttons working?

there is already a developer looking into that

i already lead the unlock bounty and i forket out $75 of my own money, now everyone is leaching from the benefits meanwhile i get nothing in return
[Galaxy S I9000 General] lithicus:
very tempted to take Croak up on his offer.

Bell phone here, unlocked, 3-button doesn't work... I might be doing it wrong, but my understanding is that there's very little magic to it...

pull and replace battery > hold home + volume up (or volume down) > press power

tried it with also holding power, tried both vol+ and vol-, the phone always goes on to boot fully, with no download nor recovery mode

does any setting need to be enabled? should the phone be plugged into a computer/charger?

S/N: R2XZ7*******
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
yes just plug in the battery

hold volume down, home and power all 3 together

and you should see the triangle android working

http://xdaforums.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S/Vibrant_GT-I9000M

pictures on wiki
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shamansanchez:
I've been having some difficulty getting the apks from the AOSP working on my Incredible. I got the source ok, and everything seems to build fine, but when I copy the output to my phone, it doesn't seem to recognize it as an apk. I'll put Browser.apk into /system/app, but it won't show up in the launcher, and if I open it with the astro app manager, it's not able to open it as an apk.

I'm still pretty new to this kind of thing, so it's probably something simple I'm missing, but does anyone have any suggestions?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adrynalyne:
Stock browser may not work with htc framework.

Otherwise, sounds like your permissions may be wack.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shamansanchez:
Hmmm... I doubled checked the permissions, and tried recompiling it, but no luck. I did find a stock Browser.apk that mostly works aside from a few ui issues, so it should be possible in theory, just not sure what I'm doing wrong.

EDIT: Weird, minSdkVersion and targetSdkVersion weren't specified in the AndroidManifest.xml, and when I added them, it works! Had to comment out a few lines of code to get it to not force close on start though. I could post it if anyone is interested, but now that I know this is possible, I'm curious to see if I could get the browser from CM6 working.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spigget:
Browser.apk

I personally would very much like to see what is needed to get a AOSP browser running on a rooted stock 2.2 Incredible, as I'm sure would very many others.
[Off-topic] MacaronyMax:
Wow found this didn't know it was there :eek::D:D:D

Member list :p

Edit wow the majority of people have 1/0 posts and have been a member for 1+ year wow I'm on page 351 of m's :p
[Off-topic] lonelykatana:
why make an account to not post?:p
[Off-topic] JimJam707:
Good. I'm the only active JimJam
[Off-topic] Mr. Clown:
I'm the only clown :p
[Off-topic] jahnile:
Lol, guess we are a very diverse forum.

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[Off-topic] M_T_M:
And I'm the only me :D
[Off-topic] cmstackar:
I know about 5 people who registered just so they could download an attachment at the end of a post
[Off-topic] orb3000:
Facts

From the total Members: 2,629,767

The Active Members are only: 358,749

That means that 2,271,018 users just registered for the same propose...
[Off-topic] juggs:
These folks that sign up just to DL a file obviously don't have anything worthwhile to contribute, in which case I say thank you for not posting. I do a lot more reading than posting, as evidence of my .02 daily post count rate. You should be happy that someone is taking the time to register to dl your file. That's what you made it for, right? :)
[Off-topic] Beackman:
I'm the only active on page 1960.... heuheuheu.
[Off-topic] chopper the dog:
We all started as lurkers. And with a number of ppc news sites putting links of apps developed by xda users its no wonder there are a lot of 0's. And not that there is anything wrong with that. Checked out my stats and it took me 6 months for my first post.

good day.
[Off-topic] CRACING:
I have ORD disease since from I joined XDA. Broken'ed my FUZE on march 10th and until today I have no phones to use.

I experienced how hard its to be without a phone and its HTC. Pff :o

I'm was sucked. Neither I was able to throw away the phone nor fix it nor buy new basic phone ( coz when you get rich, it will be very hard to get poor, hope you understood what I ment. ;) )

However, I will get hd2 this week and I'm so happy!