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[Vibrant General] Jon C:
And you're still an epic fanboy troll? :confused:
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
The reason why I ask is because you we're supposed to have returned the phone by know. Of course those we're just empty threats, unless you have returned the phone???????????
[Vibrant General] mi4kidzmom:
Jon C if you are so unhappy with the phone, as evidence from your posts, then get a different one. If not shutup about already. Stop filing the board with your negativity, and blanket statements. Don't you have a life to bother people you can have a REAL interaction with?
[Vibrant General] Jon C:
Because this isn't the thread for fanboy boasting and trolling, my main man! This is a thread for GPS discussion.

I can see how you'd get them easily confused; what, with your boy 'heygrl' posting the way he does.

Also, the irony of your statement is probably wasted on you. At the very least, it made me smile. :D
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
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[Vibrant General] mi4kidzmom:
The irony of what statement?? If you check my profile I rarely post, and don't look for things to complain about in any part of my wonderful, extremely blessed life. There are many, many, more important things in MY life than to act as if my phone or anything else so trivial means THAT much to me. Its a phone dude get a different one and move on.
[Vibrant General] lmlloyd:
Ok, why don't you quantify what level of error you find unacceptable. I have been running My Track every time I leave the apartment (and no, I am not going to publish those tracks, because I don't care to show the world where I live, and every move I make over the course of several days), and I have yet to see a single error larger than maybe 15-20 meters. Sure, sometimes it will show me on the wrong side of the street, or it will look on the map like I was riding through buildings, instead of on the street, but it always has me on the right street, and on the right block.

What is your application that you need higher accuracy than that? Are you trying to use your phone as an avionics system for a plane? Any GPS is going to have errors, whether it is from tall buildings in the way, overhead tree coverage, or just the inherent inaccuracy designed into non-military units. Yes, the performance of the Vibrant could be better, but if you are pissed off because it doesn't always pinpoint you to exactly within a meter of where you are, then you have an unrealistic expectation of "acceptable performance." The tracks coming out of the Vibrant are within about 5 meters of the tracks coming out of my GPS bike computer. That isn't performance to brag about, but it also isn't performance sufficiently bad enough to justify phrases like "nowhere near my actual position" or "completely useless."
[Vibrant General] Dougefresh91:
Since my two week return period passed I've noticed that my GPS has been working pretty good. Perhaps it's because I'm not sitting around analyzing it all the time, nor checking to see how may satellites I've locked on to. It's failed me once when I really needed it, and since is usually accurate to about 200 meters (compared to the 1600 it used to normally get). This is stock with only use networks turned on. The 'fix' failed me, so I restored. Idk. Just sayin'.
[Vibrant General] boomerbubba:
I'll take 5 meter accuracy or less. Since that is an outside estimate of statistical confidence, the actual performance would tend to revert to the mean and appear to the subjective eyeball to be quite close most of the time. The Broadcom chip onboard is supposed to be capable of 2 meter accuracy. Not sure it is reasonable to expect that in a handheld without an external antenna, but the state of the art has improved a lot during the past few years.

Another way of looking at reasonable quantification is to compare the results not to a level of perfection -- I'm not arguing that strawman -- but to the level of accuracy that other smartphones have been able to deliver. (Within that competitive window, we want the best accuracy we can get.) My almost-two-year-old G1, the very first Android smartphone sold to the public, has outperformed my two new Samsung Vibrants very handily in side-by-side benchmark tests. I'm not the only G1 user to report that.

BTW: Do what I did to publish My Tracks data. Use your friend's apartment instead of your own. :cool:

Gosh, that's like asking to enumerate what computers can do. The answer is entirely open-ended -- any computer program where it is important to know, communicate or record: I am here right now. A few existing apps like that include tracking of athletic runs, (on which multiple users have reported that their Galaxy S phones are quite useless because the track wanders far from actual), popular social networking apps like Latitude and Foursquare, geotagging of photos (my accident occurred here), reverse geocoding on the fly, field geocoding for data colleection of multiple addresses to avoid reliance on expensive and legally restricted services, geocaching, wardriving for WiFi, any number of scientific apps, traffic and crowd analysis .... The world of GIS and GPS is exploding and becoming democratized in part by the proliferation of GPS smartphones, which are really computers that happen to make phone calls, play media, and do geographic tasks.
[Vibrant General] caldjeff:
Wow...seriously, can you guys take it outside? Gonna have to agree with whoever said it earlier (maybe on another thread) but the signal to noise ratio on some of these threads is off the charts. I gotta read through 4 pages of "oh yeah, well your mom" to find out any relevant information.

Devs, can we start a whole new subforum for "just looking for a fight" or "all Android phones suck and you all suck and here's why"? Maybe then these threads can stay on topic.
[Vibrant General] XfooYen:
Amen. Tons of apps rely on accurate gps data that all working devices have been able to give for years.
[Vibrant General] larryccf:
i laughed so hard, spilled my drink - you owe me a keyboard LOL:D
[Vibrant General] I'mDan2:
AGREED! Now what's this about signal to noise? ;-)
[Vibrant General] mesajoejoe:
You have a 30 day return/exhange period for the phone. The 14-day period which tmobile lies to every customer about is just for a new contract/upgrade-extension, in which it allows you to cancel the order w/e it may be completely without ETF. No matter what though, you have 30 days. Read the little white book that came with the phone. Dont ever let them tell you you cant exchange it cause its past 14 days cause its a lie, and as soon as you mention the 30day thing, they are all like OH yeah right you bought it full price..... you do have 30 days. Its there way of not sounding like they just lied to you. Fyi, buying it full price OR contract you still have 30 days, 14 days is only for contract/extension cancel
[Vibrant General] dublued:
Thank you! I hope everyone enjoyed their fresh cup of shut the hell up this morning.

It's ridiculous that we have to go through 3 pages of flame wars before finding any substantial information in these threads. Take it to PMs.
[Vibrant General] Dougefresh91:
I did an upgrade. So you're saying I can still return this phone, but I'm still under contract?
[Vibrant General] boomerbubba:
Wrong. Please stop spreading this misinformation in multiple places. This issue was settled definitively on another thread. There are only two classes of customers who enjoy a 30-day return period on the phone:

1) California residents.

2) Customers who paid full price for their phone, without a contract subsidy.

Non-Californians who bought the phone along with a new or renewed contract only have 14 days. That is what the written policy says:

You were able to get an exchange only because you had paid full price.
[Vibrant General] barch27:
I have two Samsung Vibrant phones and both of these are completely unable to get any GPS lock (Seattle area). There seems to be misinformation being spread about the GPS issues being infrequent, so here is my data point.
[Vibrant General] aohmer:
@TMobile_USA: RT @SamsungMobileUS: We're testing software to optimize GPS on US Galaxy S. Expected updates avail. in Sept. Details & download to follow.

:) woo woo!
[Vibrant General] Jon C:
Confirmed by another Seattleite. I feel your pain. :(
[Vibrant General] :
And a third. (Former customer, now a happy Sprint Evo camper.) Seattle's a tough city for GPS: lots of hills, tree, tall buildings, cloud cover, and major highways close together. But the Evo hasn't failed me yet. Even when it was working, the Vibrant would put me on the University Bridge when I was actually on the Ship Canal Bridge.
[Vibrant General] lmlloyd:
If GPS is this much of a make-or-break issue for you, and you need to stay with a T-Mobile phone, then might I suggest a GPS-centric phone like the Garmin phone? I'm betting that will meet your needs. As it stands, the Vibrant is about on par with BlackBerries (which cost about the same amount), and as I said, performs better than the G1 did on launch. I think it is unreasonable to assume that just because you have a higher standard than most users, that all manufacturers must tailor their products to your standards. I wish the Galaxy had a hardware keyboard, and didn't look so damned much like an iPhone, but you don't see me sitting here trolling thread after thread about what a disappointment the phone is, or returning it multiple times hoping this time it will somehow have grown a keyboard, and look different.

Every ad I have seen in either print, web or TV, has advertised this phone on the strength of it's screen, and media capabilities, not its GPS performance. The big ticket bundle was Avatar, not TomTom or some other GPS app. It isn't that I wouldn't like to see better GPS performance, it is just that nowhere did I see this phone advertised as some insanely accurate GPS marvel, that would outperform every other device on the planet, so I didn't come to the device expecting that. As I said, if top of the line GPS accuracy was my primary concern, I probably would have given more priority to the Garmin than this phone.

As far as price goes, I, for example, have a $1,500 watch that is accurate to maybe a minute a month, and an $85 watch that syncs to atomic time, and is always accurate to within a second. If I need a watch that is accurate, I use the $85 plastic one, while the $1,500 looks much better with a suit. Neither watch is 'unusable,' though without a doubt the cheaper one is several orders of magnitude more accurate. I don't think either of them misrepresented themselves, or is defective, or was a ripoff. They are just better at different things. Just because they charge $1,500 dollars for a watch, I don't think that means they are somehow obligated to guarantee it will be more accurate than one you can get for $85.

You keep talking as though anyone who only needs GPS for simple street navigation, is somehow inferior, or more ignorant than you. Yet, perhaps they just have different uses in mind for the phone. If I want to show somebody a video I just made, I would certainly rather show it to them on the Vibrant, than on the G1, and it is completely irrelevant to me whether the GPS on the G1 is more accurate than the GPS on the Vibrant, for that use. That isn't 'anecdotal' or defensive, or some fanboy ploy to let Samsung off the hook for some egregious wrong, that is just a different person with a different use case, and a different set of priorities. They are no more or less important a customer than you are, and the phone meets their needs better than anything else in T-Mobile's lineup.
[Vibrant General] boomerbubba:
No, thanks. I want a full, high-end smartphone. That's what I paid for. GPS functionality is part of the core feature set of an Android.

Actually, the latest PR from Samsung and T-Mobile as of yesterday was the announcement that next month they will "optimize" the GPS on the Galaxy S.

I sure hope they succeed, and I am cautiously optimistic that they will.
[Vibrant General] j0hnZ:
If all phones came exactly as we want them we wouldn't be rooting our phones and throwing different customized roms on them. The problem is getting fixed, what is with all the bickering about it? Must be a boring week...
[Vibrant General] lmlloyd:
Oh please, you and Jon C have been jumping into every thread on this site even tangentially related to the Vibrant's GPS, and calling everyone who dares say they are satisfied with their performance everything from ignorant fools to Samsung shills, while claiming the GPS is hundreds of feet off, and incapable of locking onto more than a couple sats, and now you are going to backpedal with a cheap "I never actually said the word useless." Fine. I can't immediately find a quote where you said that specific word, just ones where you dismiss any report of its usefulness as the apathetic, ignorant, anecdotal ramblings of unreliable, untrustworthy, emotional dolts who lack the rigor and scientific acumen to have any standing in a discussion about the usefulness of the device. Quotes where you tell people that if they think their device is useful, then they just aren't looking hard enough, because they are wrong, and don't know any better. Quotes where you demand that anyone claiming to be satisfied with their performance provide proof, in triplicate, with video evidence that they are not faking it. Are you seriously going to try to argue that there is a meaningful distinction between that, and you saying it is useless?

And then you are going to call me intellectually dishonest?
[Vibrant General] lmlloyd:
For someone who talks up the importance of factual evidence, and is so quick to dismiss anecdotal accounts, you have a funny way of reading polls.

As I read it, we have an unscientific informal poll here, that represents fewer than 1000 users, out of millions of phones sold worldwide, and tens of thousands of views of the forum, keeping in mind that dissatisfied parties are always more vocal than satisfied parties, you still have less than 50% unambiguously stating dissatisfaction for the device's GPS feature. I checked "Yes - GPS works sometimes, never accurate though" myself, because of the poorly worded options, that was the closest I could find to describing the situation. and on the other poll, I did not select anything, because I both use GPS a lot, and think it is "OK," which was not an available option on the poll. Yet you would now have me believe that my own vote proves that I am wrong about my own satisfaction level?
[Vibrant General] boomerbubba:
Actually, I think my comments have been quite nuanced. At the moment, I am cautiously optimistic that this problem might get fixed in the future and have said so. That position is closer to the middle ground of the discussion than some others are. I just don't take corporate spin or emotional bias at face value.

You're getting a little emotional here yourself now, and the personal attacks on me are getting annoying. Can't see much point in continuing, so have a nice day. You seem to be saying that I have to just butt out of the forum discussions. That isn't going to happen. You don't like me, and that's okay. But I will continue to say what I think.

As I said before, much of our argument boils down to how good is good enough, and we will just have to agree to disagree. :)
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
You call doubt "cautious optimism"? I should get into this slanted way of thinking you have. It seems blissful.
[Vibrant General] boomerbubba:
Yes, healthy doubt is the "cautious" part.

This thread is getting really sidetracked. If you and lmlloyd want to start a new one called Boomerbubba is an Awful Fellow, go ahead. We can all agree to disagree on that, too, because I think I'm a fine fellow! :) But none of that has much to do with the merits of GPS performance.
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
The word you're looking for is pessimistic. You have gone on record saying that you don't think Samsung can or will fix GPS functionality.

You're getting emotional, this is where I HAVE to sign off.
[Vibrant General] smashpunks:
Yes sometimes gps on the sgs isn't the greatest... but yesterday I used it to get to a few places, About 2 to 3 hours...

Mind you it was 95 out and I have no ac in the car so the phone was hott, like 125 degrees (someone said worse when phones hott). But the thing found a route instantly , had no blue circle at all driving, it never lost the route or even hiccuped..... funny thing though it said I was only locked onto 1 out of 11 satellites, but yes navigation was fast, accurate and quick to reroute me when needed.... it also had a acurracy of 15 to 20 feet off 1 Fuking satellite .... funny ****.. but worked perfect in navigation ...

For me that's all I've ever needed gps for, is navigation or finding my location, and well, everytime I use it, it works for me....

Yea I may not have 8 out of 8 satellites , but I've been testing navigation and my location out so much of works greaaaat....

I voted no problem for gps. I would like anything to work better, I'm all for that, but wouldn't hurt me if not...

Also this is without restarting phone for like 4 days so that's not why it worked well, it just works...
[Vibrant General] boomerbubba:
Glad to hear you're signing off. Have a great day!

For the record, I don't recall writing "I don't think Samsung can or will fix GPS functionality." In fact, I have said lately I think they might succeed with a firmware fix, and that is why I choose to retain a Vibrant for the time being. (Just paid several hundred dollars for a new one!) I am just not persuaded enough to commit to a two-year contract. There is enough uncertainty to make that an irrational choice, in my view.

And yes, I call that cautious optimism.
[Vibrant General] Jon C:
Oh, you guys... :rolleyes:

Stop taking things so personally.
[Vibrant General] smashpunks:
Lets just leave it at.......

"We all hope theres a fix to make it a non issue for everyone"..

Works on for me.. but I know it could be better.

Peace guys, we all want the same thing... a flawless phone. And IMO this is the only real issue it has (a small one to me) vs the n1 when I got it, was on edge even in 3g spots, also had the signal droppage when covering bit would actually lose calls, no real Multitouch, screen would wig out, flaky power button, dust under like every screen etc...

This phones got a minor amount of issues vs others that have been released... look at the evos bleeding screen or grounding issues, iPhone reception issue, incredibles grounding issue. The list goes on and on. Nothing's perfect ..

Fix it better samsung or not fix it better. I'm keeping this thing, I'd miss this if I went back to any other phone.. even my n1....

Love this vibrant..
[EVO 4G Accessories] samrozzi:
just curious of any real high quality cases. I have the innocase active right now and love it, but kinda wanting something a little thinner and less bulky and i know how the iphone has some very stylish, classy leather style cases, wood cases etc...
[EVO 4G Accessories] damian00976:
here you go

http://stores.ebay.com/Monster-Acce...011QQ_sidZ62112801QQ_trksidZp4634Q2ec0Q2em322
[EVO 4G Accessories] whatsitsnamenow:
Can't get more high class than pink flowers diamond bling cases.
[EVO 4G Accessories] samrozzi:
yeah those are interesting, just i would love to see (and i highly doubt it) like wooden cases. really nice leather cases.
[EVO 4G Accessories] phobos512:
I was going to suggest Vaja but their website doesn't show anything for the EVO as yet.
[EVO 4G Accessories] samrozzi:
yeah went to the site, unfortunately nothing for evo. but thats something im looking for
[EVO 4G Accessories] JG-1:
my wife has this lol
[EVO 4G Accessories] michd43:
I gave up my innocase for this. It's very thin, sometimes I forget its there. It protects the camera lens. Feels high quality and comes w/a free screen protector.

http://www.case-mate.com/HTC-EVO-4G-Cases/Case-Mate-HTC-EVO-4G-Barely-There-Cases.asp
[EVO 4G Accessories] samrozzi:
i actully saw a customer come into my sprint store i workat with that case, it is pretty nice and slim. VERRRY slim. idk. i guess im askign for tooo much lol. would just love a reallly rich, classy, leather case or something
[EVO 4G Accessories] edtate:
Idk, I don't think the market has matured enough with EVO's to warrant smaller companies making expensive cases for the Evo. I'd wait a few months before expecting anything like this.
[EVO 4G Accessories] akastixx:
http://www.amazon.com/High-Quality-SlimLine-Tough-Case-Phone/dp/B003TTQ4A4/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1281692420&sr=8-6
[EVO 4G Accessories] VW91N3:
That one's nice. Kinda like a 1956 Hotpoint refrigerator.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Kongax:
I had that case and it is really nice AT FIRST. But just a little warning, if you live in a warm place like Florida(i do), then the glue holding that white fabric on will actually unstick and the fabric just starts falling off and peeling away. I really liked it before that though. :)
[EVO 4G Accessories] sporklover:
This guy on Ebay has really great reviews on other Android forums. He makes custom Leather cases for Evos.

Here are some of the different styles: http://bit.ly/aUofn1
[EVO 4G Accessories] akastixx:
you had better get some super glue. :-) i wouldn't waste the money you put into it buy buying something else. i thought it looked sweet, but it's not my style.
[EVO 4G Accessories] RoyalTease:
great customizable leather cases

Check out fortte.com
[EVO 4G Accessories] ryohei47:
omg thank you very much! thats the superest really classy high quality case i've been looking for!
[EVO 4G Accessories] outlawracer21:
How does this case do with the camera lens? Does the camera lens stick out past the case? Does it have a rubbery feel at all? I'm trying to find a nice hard case that will protect the camera lens and work with my ghost armor.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Originalkingpin:
awesome is as awesome does!!

one word...... OTTERBOX
[EVO 4G Accessories] phobos512:
FYI, Goodandevo.net reviewed this case and said it was totally junk.
[EVO 4G Accessories] phobos512:
Piel Frama has an Evo case now. They're pretty high end.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rev_Nev:
Is there anyway to change the icon of an ongoing notification in the notification bar? I have the app Status Notes running at all times and the icon in my notification bar is an eyesore. There is an option to make it blank but I don't like having a blank spot in the middle of all my other notifications on my notification bar. I'm not sure if anyone can create a morph for just this app to make it look nicer or if I can change it to whatever I want myself, but any help would be greatly appreciated.
[Vibrant General] Troy1:
I have looked thru the forums and haven't seen this issue mentioned. when I plug in my headphones both of these apps start at the same time.Does anyone know how to stop this and how I can set it up so that I choose what to start. Thank You.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] GSeeker:
found it on Kingmobi:

http://www.kingmobi.net/bbs/thread-138031-1-1.html

download link:

http://up.kingmobi.net/i9000tgyjh1.rar

(PDA, CSC and MODEM)

pw:i9000170733@kingmboi.net

the version is I9000ZSJH1. Some user said when they send their phone to Samsung Maintenance Department, they send the phone back with this rom, so it seems the latest one.

i have not test it yet.

update: it is a 2.1 rom, improved battery performance and speed

update2:flashed, and rooted. free RAM:166MB on first boot. no special Apps found

update3:Quadrant:895, not good.

update4:Quadrant:2186 after lagfix2.0, about 100 less than JG8, so JG8 seems to be the best rom so far.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] INeedYourHelp:
Obviously.... it would be quite humorous if they sent the guy froyo before Septembers official release.

But I look forward to people's reports on this new firmware.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
are there any cool app in that HK ROM that is not on in the Euro SGS i9000?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] achio1115:
downloading... (slowly)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] phpcool:
Mirror:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/gpb8ix
[Galaxy S I9000 General] datdat81:
Good experience with this new firmware?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] cheetah2k:
Does this contain PDA, CSC and MODEM files?