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[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MajorTomUK:
Right, first of all, I've tried searching and have found LOADS of really helpful information. But nothing seems to clearly answer my query which should hopefully be a quick one for someone to answer.

I previously had a G1 and have rooted/flashed a custom rom onto that, so I am familiar with the whole process. My only concern is that things seem a bit different with the Desire.

To set the scene, I have a T-Mobile branded Desire with default 2.1 ROM (Build 1.15.110.11). There is no specific T-Mobile software other than the boot animation. But I've read that this build of the OS is specific to T-Mobile, so I assume it is branded...

I currently have no need to unlock the phone to allow for other networks as I'm in my contract for the long haul! My questions are:

Do I need to have my phone unlocked in order to root?

Secondly, to root and install a custom rom, do I need to use a gold card if I am going to use unrevoked? Or is the unrevoked method an alternative to the gold card method?

And lastly, is there a specific radio image that I need to use for T-Mobile?

Any additional tips specific to T-Mobile handsets are appreciated!

Thanks in advance for any help, and let me know if I've missed off anything important.

Apologies for the length of the post, I just wanted to make you sure I got all the details down. :)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jamesmcuk:
Hi Mate

1: No you dont

2: No gold card for root but I think yes for custom rom or you get the endless reboot prob.

3: I don't think so but wouldn't like to say for sure.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dougsdir:
i have a UK TMobile phone and I always use the recommended radio that goes with the customer ROM.

I am currently running LeeDroid 1.8 with radio 32.43.00.32U_5.09.00.20
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MajorTomUK:
Thanks for your reply. I've managed to root it with unrevoked, even easier than I expected. But your comment on the gold card is well timed as I was going to put a rom on in the next couple of hours, without a gold card!

I'll hang fire and see if anyone else can confirm whether I need one or not...

Cheers
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jamesmcuk:
to be honest mate for how easy they are to create you may as well have one even just as a safe guard for the future
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bob dylan:
i was in exactly the same boat as you. i unlocked my phone cos is was visiting germany for a while. you dont need to unlock but you do need to debrand i.e flash a non branded ROM to the phone to root.

follow this guide:

http://community.giffgaff.com/t5/Other-Off-Topic/Debranding-Unlocking-an-HTC-Desire/td-p/23317

once debranded you can run unrevoked to root the desire. after this point you have a decision to make: which ROM to flash through clockwork recover(what unrevoked installs so you can flash ROMs).. if i were you i would make sure you flash a ROM that doesnt upgrade the hboot to 0.92( you can downgrade but its a pain in the ass!).

so to answer you questions:no, yes and no. no specific radio image needed for t mobile as in order to root you need to debrand anyway so any operator specific radio is redundant. i used the sd card that cam with my phone to make the goldcard( copy the contents of the card to your PC, format the card, make goldcard, once you have made the goldcard you can put all the stuff back on the sd card, the card will remain a goldcard until its formatted again).

its all pretty simple really, i was hesitant but half an hour late was wondering what i was so worried about.!

good luck
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jamesmcuk:
I rooted my Virgin Media branded phone with unrevoked without flashing a debranded rom
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tawm:
I used the goldcard method to root my T-Mo UK Desire that had 2.1 on, but now you can just use Unrevoked to install a recovery image and then use recovery to flash the ROM of your choice, easy as pie :)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MajorTomUK:
Thanks for all the replies guys. I'll do a gold card in a bit.

Unrevoked ran ok and ClockworkMod is installed ok, so I assume I didn't need to de-brand in any way?

I think I might go with LeeDroid, but I'll let you know how I get on.

Cheers!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bob dylan:
if you rooted with unrevoked you debranded! unrevoked flashes a custom recovery( ie a non branded recovery.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jamesmcuk:
I am quite sure thats not correct. Debranding removes the operator logos and software - rooting modifies the bootloader to install the custom recovery

I used unrevoked and still had all branding in place. I have now debranded and no Virgin Media stuff remains
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mtmcndrw:
Hi there,

I installed the LeeDroid rom earlier today.

This was installed on a debranded orange phone. I rooted first with Unrevoked then used the clockwork recovery to install the associated zip files for the rom.

In post one of the thread LeoDroid makes the comment "everyone needs an ext3 partition on there SD" so I made sure I had this in place before starting.

During the process of making the EXT3 partition I formatted my SDcard then used this card to install the rom. So during the installation I didn't use a gold card.

Everything is working great.

Hope this helps.

Matt
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bob dylan:
really? weired, i used unrevoked and it removed my operator logos and software.

odd.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jamesmcuk:
maybe its different depending on who branded the phone there seems to be much variation in the software which is one aspect in which the iphone does win out. The only one mind you lol
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MajorTomUK:
Right, gold card done just in case. Just copying everything back onto the SD card. I definitely still have a T-Mobile boot screen which shows after the HTC logo after I've used unrevoked, although maybe this will disappear when I flash a custom rom?

Regarding an ext3 partition, I thought this was only necessary if I wanted the old style A2SD? I don't run a massive amount of apps as I've managed fine up to now, so the Froyo implementation should be fine for me. I'm dual booting to Ubuntu, so may be worth setting up a 1gb ext3 partition just in case as it won't take long to do...

Again, thanks for all your help!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] th3:
Mine is T-Mobile UK too. I'm moving between 3 ROMs to test something temporarily but I'm running the stock HTC 2.2 with root. You don't need a goldcard to use these stock ROMs. Just root and then flash.

Flash the correct radio image before the ROM to avoid many potential problems (install zip from SD card through recovery).

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- Sent via my HTC Desire -
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MajorTomUK:
Cheers mate, literally just about to do this. Latest radio is now on and working ok with stock 2.1. Now to flash rom! Also decided to use HTC 2.2 with root, and take it from there I reckon.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wgg:
As you said in your opening post T Mobile has for a change not put a whole load of rubbish on the phone and the main thing appears to be the splash screen.

I debranded my phone after unlocking & rooting as it is a quick and simple thing to do and just in case there was something lurking that I was not aware of:)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MajorTomUK:
Yeah, after I flashed a custom rom, even the T-Mobile logo has disappeared from the boot/splash screen. So no branding anywhere now!

All that's left is the pink circle when I first power the phone on, which looks T-Mobile'ish! That'll be contained in the HBOOT won't it?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wgg:
I have absolutely no T Mobile branding, would go straight to HTC when using a stock rom.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bob dylan:
Now you are rooted learn some adb and remove those apps you don't want! Eg stocks etc

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] k.aalai:
I rooted my tmob, followed by stock 2.2 ROM too, and get the pink circle too, then to the HTC screen.

SO is the pink thingy from Tmob or not?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ninjakettle:
Hey guys, Like the OP, i want to flash my UK T-Mob Branded Desire.

I've rooted the phone with Unrevoked 3.2, downloaded Titanium and Rom manager and have a bunch of ROMS downloaded too ready to flash. However, before i pull the trigger, i'm still unsure (after all my reading) if i need a GoldCard or not? I'm a bit nervous about the whole thing and i'm not sure what the answers are to these questions...

- Do i need a goldcard to do my first flash to debrand?[/B]

- If i want to return the phone to Tmob for any reason. can i now simply run the appropriate RUU to reset the phone - or does this require a goldcard?

- If a rom updates my Hboot, will i still be able to go back to .75 if i run the tmob RUU before sending for warranty?

Answers greatly appreciated!!

(i asked this elsewhere in forum, but i think this thread is more suited)

Tmob Branded Desire

Hboot - 0.75

Build 1.15.110.11

Firmware 2.1-update1
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EddyOS:
Right, lots of wrong information in this thread...

If you have (or had) a branded phone and want to go to stock you will NEED a gold card. The gold card will also be needed for ANY OTA updates. The ONLY time you won't need to gold card is going back to your original operator ROM OR if you're going to use a custom ROM.

unrEVOked only roots your phone - it doesn't remove any branding. All it does is allow you to flash custom ROMs via the custom recovery image. It also allows you root access so apps like Root Explorer work correctly.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ninjakettle:
Cheers Eddy.

I made a Gold card just to be on the safe side and i'm glad i did now.

Can you tell me if i do return to my original operator ROM - will the HBOOT be reset?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EddyOS:
You'd need to go to their latest ROM, in your case T-Mobile, but you'd need their 2.2 ROM (if and when it's available). The only other way would be to downgrade your HBOOT and then flash the current T-Mobile stock ROM - found here:

http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Bra...00.28U_4.06.00.02_2_release_127570_signed.exe

Downgrade instructions are here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=768256
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ninjakettle:
Cheers mate!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Andaho:
I'm going to attempt this for the first time this weekend after hours and hours of reading... But I have a question following up on things mentioned here so far:

So how do you remove the T-Mobile pink circle to make the phone completely debranded? - Not that it's a big thing, but, I'd just like to unlock my phone and have it exactly as if I bought it sim-free.

I plan to root with unrevoked, install HTC 2.1, unroot, and install OTA 2.2. I haven't yet read up about unrooting, but to get OTA updates, you have to unroot yeah? - I only want to mess with this once and then forget how it's done, but still get any future OTA updates.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 00mpollard:
i recently got a desire (t-mobile branded), unrevoked it. rooted it, i flashed a custom rom but didnt make a goldcard....i have the same problem as above

all my t-mobile branding has gone apart from a pink circle at bootup..not a big deal but im baffled to why its still there lol
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kempshott:
You'll need to be S-Off - - see www.alpharev.nl. ( s-off is not the same as root, and nether are the same as sim-free/unlocked)

Then there are two things you need to do as there are two T-mobile branded things that display at startup:

1) to change the initial startup screen search for "fastboot flash splash1"

2) to change the aimated graphics search for"bootanimation.zip"

- lots of tutorials on both steps here and elsewhere. In fact, if you use alpharev to s-off, your splash screen will become their joker one but they explain how to change it.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 00mpollard:
thanks for the reply

will look into editing "fastboot flash splash1"
[XPERIA X10 General] un1bomber:
Hey guys,

I'm having a few issues w my X10, my call log and contacts dont show up half the time when I boot up my phone and my last call widget always freezes. It's really really bugging me and I think I need to try formatting my SD card.

How do I format my SD card and put all my data back on it after so my phone is the same after the format?

Thanks
[XPERIA X10 General] zephyrix:
Call log, contacts, etc have nothing to do with the sdcard, unless you choose to back them up - which is the only time they'll be on there.
[XPERIA X10 General] un1bomber:
hmmm so I should be 'reformatting' my phone then right?

I just rooted and used installed titaniam backup... what should I do to reformat and then restore all my settings? Do I lose root when I reformat my phone?

Thanks a lot!
[XPERIA X10 General] SXUsr:
Copy and paste the contents on to your computer, format the card, and paste them back.
[XPERIA X10 General] un1bomber:
Thanks for the advice.... problem for me right now is if that if Call log, contacts, etc have nothing to do with the sdcard then formatting my SD card is not what I need to do

I have titanium backup but I just got it today with root and am not sure how to reformat my phone while restoring everyhitng to how it is right now
[XPERIA X10 General] zephyrix:
Back everything up using titanium, and then do a factory reset.

Reinstall titanium, then restore.
[XPERIA X10 General] Mobzter:
Is suggest mybackup n al

helps you save other stuff 2 such as contacts n msgz
[XPERIA X10 General] un1bomber:
thanks for all the help guys! gonna do a factory reset now... hoping for the best

thanks!
[XPERIA X10 General] k0sun7eash3d:
I just recently factory reset my phone and I was wondering what was the easiest way to get root back on my phone.

I'm content with keeping R2BA023 pretty much just because I know it works and my battery is consistent enough for me to get through an average day, so reflashing with one of the newer models and then rooting isn't exactly what I want to do.
[XPERIA X10 General] un1bomber:
nm got it!

just restored... titanium backup is the nuts
[XPERIA X10 General] un1bomber:
fk, just did a restore and the problem is still there.... guess I have to try formatting SD card now...

If I want to format, do I plug phone to the computer, mount SD card -> copy all files to my computer -> format sd card -> copy all files back to SD card -> unmount SD card

Is that what I do?

Thanks!
[XPERIA X10 General] Mobzter:
Yup pretty much
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oliwan:
Could someone please confirm the process to me for changing an SD card when you current one already has an ext app2sd partition?

This is my guess but would like confirmation before I go at it.

Go to recovery console

Nandroid + ext backup

Copy nandroid backup to PC

Partition new SD

Copy nandroid to new SD

Nandroid restore from console

Thanks
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oliwan:
Never mind, found the answer in the CDMA forums :)

FYI - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=585349&page=6
[Captivate General] mterrence5:
Is anyone that is having battery issues running Adao Task Manager and Battery Status Pro?

I just factory reset my phone and I got 24hours of batter life. About 8 standby but a good deal of texting, web, some calls and some you tube.

I installed Task Manager and Batter Status Pro last night and my battery this morning went down 15% in about 1hr.

I uninstalled these today and will post again but has anyone else seen big battery drain from these apps or does anyone that is having issues running something similar?
[Captivate General] mwxiao:
I have been playing with the battery for about a week now.

For me this phone runs pretty good during stand-by. I would have about 2-3% drop for a whole night (7 to 8 hrs), with Google (push), Twitter and weather syncing.

The problem is when you use it, it drops like crazy. When I read news or surf the web, it would drop 1% every 1 or 2 min.

This morning I read an ebook, with black background for about 30 min, it dropped about 3%.

So basically i think the screen, data connection, and non-black background are the ones that kill the battery.
[Captivate General] derek4484:
Yea, I agree, the S-AMOLED screen in this thing is an energy hog. OLED's are supposed to be more energy efficient than typical LCD's but I'm just not seeing it. Whenever I look at battery usage stats it shows the display at 70-75% of battery usage. Thats ridiculous. I have until the 18th, but I'm quickly leaning towards returning this and just getting an iphone4. This phone is becoming more and more disappointing the longer I have it.
[Captivate General] mterrence5:
This morning I have been uplugged 4.75hrs and used 16% no battery monitor and no app killer. Basically done the same things I did yesterday. Some Bebbled,texting, email, phone calls .

I will update tomorrow with total hours battery life for today. Would be happy if I can replicate the 24hours I got the day before installing those apps.
[Captivate General] ranova:
I got like 45 hours of battery with moderate usage during the two days. Seems fine to me, I occasionally used system panel to monitor if anything was using high and constant CPU
[Captivate General] r34p3rex:
This is pretty typical of a 1ghz phone :p My nexus would last a day of heavy usage, 2 days if i use it lightly. We need to wait for undervolted kernels to be developed xD

Also, it really helps if you disable 3G when you don't use it. This allows me to get 3-4 days of light usage out of my nexus. I haven't played with the Captivate long enough to know how much of a difference this makes on this phone though
[Captivate General] mesasone:
when you guys refer to "stand by", what exactly do you mean? Just screen off/phone idle? The battery usage on my phone when I use it seems to be OK even if not amazing, but it continues to sap life from the battery when I'm using it at an alarming rate.
[Captivate General] devitalized:
Standby is when the phone is idle/screen off/locked.

The display is definitely power hungry. Using the Power Control widget that comes installed definitely has helped with battery life. It will let you toggle WiFi, BT, GPS, Data Sync, and Brightness (at 3 levels). When I'm not using anyone of those, I turn it off. When I'm indoors, I'll set the brightness to the lowest level. I'm usually at my desk when I'm streaming music, so I'll have it plugged in.
[Captivate General] alphadog00:
Actually they are more energy efficient on black screens, But screens with a lot of white in them suck battery bad.
[Captivate General] rdilz:
This is true the white screens burn the battery etc. I just wanted to let everyone know what I did to make my battery last more that 24hrs.

First, read the Wiki guide and apply some of the battery saving tips.

Second, UNINSTALL a program called "gReader" created by noinnion. This program is a huge battery hog! At least it was for me.

Hope this helps.
[Captivate General] Ph8:
Well I guess I am one of the "lucky ones" Im running a live wallpaper and have not run my battery down since the 1st day. Right now Im at 40% life and at 15 Hrs 30m since unplugged. This is with checking facebook, twitter, email, phone calls, internet browsing\video watching and following the steps for the GPS fix. The only thing I have done is install ATK on the phone, besides that its all stock.

One thing I know is a huge battery drain is Time without Service. Check that stat and see if you have anytime at all without service, if so, I am pointing to that as a major drain on the battery. I know currently I have 0% Time without signal, my fiancee however is usually in the 20+% range and her battery drains like many reports I have seen here (she has an EVO).....
[Captivate General] mterrence5:
Yesterday I only managed 16 hours. Web, Email, A bluetooth file transfer, short bit of gaming. I have about 5% of the cell standby time (26%) without signal. My girlfriend has the Aria which is running Android 2.1 also, has all sorts of widgets, haptic feedback on and can make it at least 24 hours. I get that it has a smaller screen but it is also an LCD. Shouldn't the Super Amoled be saving our battery some display consumption.
[Captivate General] pmpntl:
i get about 14 hours or so moderate usage and at the end of the day, i have about 35% left at night.
[Captivate General] mterrence5:
If you detail the "Display" usage in the battery usage details how many minutes has your screen been on? Mine says 1hour 2mins ...this is for 8 hours of running time. My display is using 50% of the battery (which is at 68% now).
[Captivate General] Ph8:
W00t W00t today I have reached a new high 2 Days 6 hours and 29 minuts with 12% battery left.....
[Captivate General] wgarrido:
What I have found is keeping Wifi on while I am at work and home like almost doubled my battery life. Which is great that I can use Wifi all day and not drain the battery so fast like my Fuze. Right now been off charger since 7:30am and I have 84% left. Yesterday after 9 hours I was still over 50%. For me its better than any other smartphone I have owened.

I used manual brightness, (swipe notification bar), turn off GPS/BT. black wallpaper and set Wifi to never sleep. Also the power saving mode in settings is off for other reason and doesn't affect battery.
[Captivate General] tysj:
At 18% right now and it's been off the charger for about 30 hours. I noticed yesterday that while I was connected to wifi at home (with Y5 app), it was draining faster than when I was connected to 3g. Did some tested back and forth and JuicePlotter clearly had a noticeably steeper downward slope for when wifi was connected than when it was using 3g. Weird :\
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Confused_Geek:
Somehow, the default Contacts app that comes on the X10 mini pro is quite tough to use and I haven't been able to figure out speed dial options. The favs work, but not as well as I like them. So question is, is there an app out there that can replace the defaults Contact / Call Management app? Thank You
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] 0verkilled:
Try Phone Book http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.voxmobili.phonebook2
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] ZekeWolf:
Good question!

I would like to have a Speed Contact Dialer, with pictures, like my Windows phone has.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] parthabhatta:
I gave used both aTakephone and aContacts as call management apps. Both are excellent and have a bug here and there but very usable. For setting up dialling from home screen you can try Launch-X pro which is excellent. you can select upto 49 contacts from home screen.

Thanks.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] byerlyblunt:
Where can i download the 3.0 or newer firmware for my G1. Thanks
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] tribalartgod:
As far as OFFICIAL FIRMWARE, you won't find it, because it doesn't exist. The official firmware stopped at 1.6 AFAIK.

HOWEVER!!!! You are at the right place to get that baby rooted and hooked up with 2.2 FroYo!! Go back 1 page and scroll down a bit. You shall be happy. :-)
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] greg019:
I have a problem with my GSM prvider here in Hungary.

I can't use my mobileTV at T-Mobile.

WebNwalk side always says "Not supported device",but it's supported here as a T-Mobile G2 Touch.

Service told me that my phone won't work, because T-mobile server see it like a "unsupported" HTC Hero.

So if I want to use my MobileTV,then I have to install the official T-Mobile ROM...or...as I think, if I can change the name of my phone, maybe I can use it with custom ROMs.

Anyone can help me in this situation?
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pulser_g2:
If you know what is being checked, you can probably change a build.prop string to match the stock T-Mobile one.

Any ideas? A logcat might give a clue

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