yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G1 General] wilsonlam97:
It shouldn't be a problem. If you installed one of Cyanogen Mods roms, you can register via Wifi by skipping it and setting it up than linking up your Google account after.

T-Mobile adds a data plan when your phone is being activated.
[G1 General] ilostchild:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=452316&highlight=sdk

i followed this and it worked great!
[G1 General] lbcoder:
If he USES data, he will be CHARGED for it. If he wishes to NOT BE CHARGED FOR DATA, be sure to disable data usage.
[G1 General] r3s-rt:
OP is asking if they automatically add a data plan when a new SIM card is detected. No, they do not!

If your son doesn't know about root, UNROOT IT! T-Mobile will not charge any data usage if there is no data plan. I have a friend with no data plan and unrooted and he is unable to use any data. Market will not load without wifi and same for browser or any application or function that requires data.
[G1 General] lbcoder:
Don't be so sure of that!

With most carriers, without a data plan, it will be on PAY PER USE!
[G1 General] lianglqufo:
Actually i have the same problem here. i want to get an samsung vibrant without a contract on ebay. but i don't want to use data plan. i am afraid that tmobile will add an data plan for me as well. so the answer to this question will help me as well. lol
[G1 General] lbcoder:
They can't legally charge you for something you didn't agree to.

Did you agree to letting them charge you for that? If the answer is NO, then they can't legally charge you for it.
[G1 General] mejorguille:
Easiest way to avoid any issues:

Download APNDroid, APN on/off widget, etc, and turn 3G/Edge/Gprs off. I'm not sure if you will still be able to send and receive MMS though. You will need somebody else's simcard with a data plan to activate. I am unsure if JF's way of activating through wifi applies to the vibrant.
[G1 General] crz6662:
Isn't the data plan tied to the sim card ? Rooted or not ? I have 2 lines on T-mo acct., girlfriend doesn't have data, I do. If you switch sim card to a different phone, she "still" doesn't have data. I do.

Just tell T-MO no data on that line.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] Fenopy:
Alright, so I finally got my MyTouch rooted.

Now I am looking at possibly changing my ROM, however most of the ROMs are made for 32A boards, I have a 32B board.

Is it possible to flash a 32A ROM and do some sort of update/fastboot update to get it working on a 32B phone? Or am I just talking crazy here and need to find a 32B ROM I like?

Thanks! :)
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] devnull79:
i havent seen any 32a only roms, which ones have you been looking at?

generally if there arent any instrusctions on how to go from 32a to 32b there probably isnt any support for 32b. 32b has a lot less memory so you are much more likely to find 32b roms that have 32a additional steps than the other way around.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] johnson8cyl:
If you have a 32b then flash 32b roms. Most of them are in the g1 section. You are talking crazy. Lol. There are plenty of good 32b roms out there. I am using chromatic 4.2 until I update to 4.3 :) . If you want 2.2 that one is pretty fast. Happy flashing
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] flyguy83350:
Hi i was wondering if anyone could help me. I have a my touch 3g 32b rooted with rom 5.0.8 ds radio 2.22.23.02 i also installed bfs 508- 32b fixed kernal and installed set cpu 1.54 set my phone to 576mhz the highest but its still to slow. compared to my friends on 3g with verizon i live in rupert idaho usa i do not have 3g available in my area the closest is boise 2 1/2 hrs away they have 3g. i guess my area is to rural for tmobile i did a speed test my results were download 155kbps upload 42kbps but when i checked it on home wifi download was 2567kbps upload 621kbps is their anything i could about this i really want my internet faster i know i can make it faster by using wifi but i need faster when im at work please help me.:(
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] DonJuan692006:
Call T-Mobile. They're overhauling a lot if their antannae to 3G within the next 3 months and may be hitting the ones near you. Outside of that there's nothing you can do short of cancelling your contract and switching carriers.
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] Whoareyou:
Click this link its just brings you to the Android Apps Section To my thread of The Same title http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=7565266#post7565266
[Touch Cruise Android Development] SuperJMN:
I've created a thread to report every issue that isn't solved yet. It's in the Vogue forum since it's there where the development is more dynamic a it has a great user base. Please, go into the thread to dig in first post if you feel there's an issue that should be fixed.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=748717

Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] SuperJMN:
I've created a thread to report every issue that isn't solved yet. It's in the Vogue forum since it's there where the development is more dynamic a it has a great user base. Please, go into the thread to dig in first post if you feel there's an issue that should be fixed.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=748717

Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] duke911:
very nice list :D

this will be very handy for new comers ;)

I really hope that most of the stuff will get fixed soon
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Leryan:
Thanx SuperJMN for your work. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] robi77:
CallerId

On Kaiser cant enable to send the CallerId, if the provider don't turn it ON by default.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] SuperJMN:
Thanks to you! I have just updated the main thread. I hope devs will fix a great number of them ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] leona:
Could the saving of "Font Size" in spare parts be added to the list, it doesn't save :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bakuryu883:
And battery issues,i cant hv a correct battery bar,it always show full battery,using kaiser flash nand with Incubus26Jc's Super FroYo 2.2 [Deodexed] [RLS12].
[Desire Android Development] simemu:
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Thanks to jodamm, this problem was solved. Thanks again.

See the post http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=8144292&postcount=114

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I'll try to explain when and how the FAT32 partition is corrupted.

At least, the problem occurs with these custom roms version I tested:

[Froyo Sense] LeeDrOiD Mod V1.8 (07/08 l Official HTC 2.2 l Fast l Stable! l A++)

[Rom](05/08/10) Alex-V 1.1 OTA Froyo Sense based on Paul (modaco) only added App2sd+

[ROM] Official 2.2, with: busybox, old A2SD+, OpenVPN (TUN), EXT4 support, 802.11N

[ROM] CyanogenMod-6 for Desire V6.0.0-RC2 (08/15/2010) with [Script][A2SD] Darktremor Apps2SD 2.7.5 RC3 (08/16/2010)

[ROM][16/08] ?.NexTSense v5.3 Official Sense-FroYo 2.2 ·(720p|2.09|AP2SD+|Multilangu)

[ROM] Froyo-Official - Pinky Desire Lite v0.2 - ODEXED without A2SD+ Problems

Situation:

FAT32 + EXT2/EXT3 partition

A2SD or A2SD+ activated (as comes with these roms)

Clean FAT32 partition

The following steps explain how to see the beggining of the corruption.

1) Power on the phone disconnected from the PC

2) Take a photo. The photo is saved in SD in the folder DCIM\100MEDIA

3) Connect the phone to PC and select "Disk Drive"

3.1) Test the disk with Windows.

4) Open the folder DCIM\100MEDIA and you will see the photo taken. This is GOOD.

5) Close the windows explorer and now select in the phone "Charge Only"

6) Take a new photo. The new photo is saved in SD in the folder DCIM\100MEDIA (in theory)

7) To ensure, see the photo in the phone.

8) Connect again the phone to PC and select "Disk Drive"

8.1) Test the disk with Windows.

9) Open the folder DCIM\100MEDIA and you will NOT see the photo taken because windows fixed the file system. You will see only the previous one. This is VERY BAD.

10) Close the windows explorer and now select in the phone "Charge Only"

11) To ensure of this, try to see the photo in the phone. Did you find it?

If the 8.1) step is not done, the photo will be seen in the phone when select "Charge again", but if you write a file in this step instead, the SD will corrupt.

The only way I found to save the second photo in the SD is power off the phone. Try this.

Repeat the steps 1) to 7)

8) Power off the phone

9) Power on the phone and you will find the second photo.

Summarizing

All the SD recording after the first PC connection are not consolidated in the SD until the phone is off. If you connect with the PC before power off, the recordings are lost.

I wait your testings ....
[Desire Android Development] lambrospower:
well itried to cause the bug but i had another bug.....evrything went fine....the photo was found by both phone and pc before and after the 1st and 2nd disk drive mount....BUT when i tried to open the second photo taken in pc (step9) it was saying that the file or drive is corrupted etc...but it was there...then i changed to charge only and opened it with phone just fine.....

i use my rom Lambros Custom Rom r3.1 EXTREME which is based on ieftm's rom

[ROM] Official 2.2, with: busybox, old A2SD+, OpenVPN (TUN), EXT4 support, 802.11N
[Desire Android Development] simemu:
That is because your SD is not clean.

I did the tests with a clean SD Fat32 partition.

Try again if you can and thanks.

Regards, Daniel
[Desire Android Development] kecinzer:
I have same problems.

I take many of photos and videorecord with my phone, then connect as USB Drive, and all taken files was corrupted. But when I take a look with my Desire, I can see it.

When I click to Fix corupted files, there will be delete.

How I can fix this?

I using APP2SD+ with ext3 512MB.
[Desire Android Development] tinker2000:
I lost all of my photos during an upgrade...at least I know it wasnt me lol
[Desire Android Development] digaled:
I saw these errors on my new low cost eBay SD cards. 16G and 32G... They kept on loosing data, never happening on the brand 4G Sundisk. they probably not really class 6. I did the same tests on a new card reader and got same results.
[Desire Android Development] simemu:
The problem has nothing to do with the class of the SD. The problem is A2SD.

The first connection works well but the following not.
[Desire Android Development] AndroHero:
what a great load of bollox :) but where exactly is your proof that apps2sd is the cause of your problem? i see no comparison with a non apps2sd rom
[Desire Android Development] simemu:
The problem does not occur without and EXT2/EXT3 partition and with A2SD deactivated.

In this case the second and followings connections to PC always show the photos taken.

Regards
[Desire Android Development] EnF70:
It happens to me as well on 2.2 with A2SD.

I don't remember seeing the FAT32 partition corrupted on 2.1. Can someone test on a 2.1 with A2SD ?
[Desire Android Development] andycted:
Never happened to me on 2.1 + A2SD, happens now on 2.2 + A2SD both with and without Sense. What's more, Sense clock and other widgets disappear and don't work very well after you mount and unmount the USB disk.
[Desire Android Development] robbiekhan:
Yes I get this too sometimes, thought it was gallery3d but turns out it is not.
[Desire Android Development] terryhau:
Do not try to repair errors on the pc. This will delete the files. Reboot the phone and the files will be readable or appear.

I've had this problem for a while now on both defrost and open desire roms. I've reported the bug numerous times.
[Desire Android Development] kuailan:
Hmmm...interesting finding...would like to confirm the following issue. :(
[Desire Android Development] juansuandi:
+1 happened to me. is this issue with A2SD?
[Desire Android Development] kecinzer:
I'll try my new Kingstron card today and see.
[Desire Android Development] kuailan:
Just want to share another finding. I am so curious whether the problem only occurs with Ext3 or Ext4. I have tried on Ext2 (even though not as bad, in fact much better). Before I used AmonRa to create a partition, and upgd to EXT3. This time I repartition them just by using Ext2 (no upgrade). Seem like that weird issue still exist, for example when you take the new photo, and then switch to disk drive, the windows explorer wont see the picture you created. Switching back to charge, you can still see the picture with your phone. However once you rebooted your phone, the windows explorer will finally see the files. At least this way it's not that bad, you dont get the corrupted files. You just cant see the new created pictures until your next reboot.

PS: Could it be something with journal features of both Ext3 or 4??
[Desire Android Development] andycted:
I can do the exact same thing with ext3 (on OpenDesire 3.0.5)

By the way, I've seen someone on modaco reporting this happens on his rooted stock rom without a2SD partition
[Desire Android Development] qrees:
Well... it's strange. Only the first photo I've taken is visible after connecting to PC. But all photos are visible when I browse the card with some file explorer on the phone. All open perfectly fine with no errors. Maybe system just somehow caches the folder status (i don't say that it's working correctly)?
[Desire Android Development] andycted:
That was my impression (File allocation table ??)
[Desire Android Development] bemymonkey:
I have it too... never thought to connect it with Apps2SD though.

I have OpenDesire 3.0.5 running with the original Desire SD card (4GB Samsung), with a 512MB EXT2 (default in AmonRA) partition... every now and then, when I create a new file on the SD card (for instance, this morning I copied two system files to the SD root with ADB, and they didn't show up in UMS [USB Mass Storage] mode on the PC). Same thing with photos sometimes.

Accessing the file on the phone works fine, as does accessing it with the on-device FTP server.

Do you really think it's Apps2SD causing it? Any ideas why?
[Desire Android Development] djoni1980:
I had problems with corrupted sd card on 2.1 (it would become unmounted by itself), at the end I had to reformat the card. I learned my lesson not to unplug phone while it's in disk drive mode, and everything worked fine till yesterday.

I'm using leedroid 1.8 with a2sd+, I have 16 gig class 2 sd card with 512 mb ext3 partition.

Yesterday I copied 8 gigs of movies from pc to sd card, to prepare for vacation. After I did it, phone recognized error and mounted sd card as "read only".

I found my old Nokia N82 :) inserted sd card in it, and connected it to pc in file transfer mode. Windows 7 recognized error on sd card, offered me to repair it, I accepted, and problem was solved... Let's hope it won't happen again.

I love my HTC Desire, but in terms of reliability, old Nokia >>>> Desire :)

It is obvious though that problem is always connected with file transfer from pc via USB.
[Desire Android Development] BlackWhiteOne:
i think the native app2sd is much more stable than the old a2sd.
[Desire Android Development] bemymonkey:
Does it work just as well though? No performance issues?
[Desire Android Development] andycted:
I restored my two days old nandroid backup of ieftm HTC Sense 2.2 and this doesn't happen anymore.

[EDIT] my bad, started to happen again, but only after 3 times that I unmounted USB drive
[Desire Android Development] TieT:
im having a similar issue,

Im using a 8Gb sd with a 512 ext3 partition

When i copy files to the sd they appear and i can use them, but when i delete them, the file name still stays visible...

Im trying to chkdsk the sd but i dont think this will help.

The files get corrupted when deleting... strange
[Desire Android Development] simemu:
You are right. Following my test list, once the photo is not shown in the explorer in the second connection to PC, the photo is lost because I always test the disk with Windows.

If the test is not done, the photo is shown again in the phone.

But if the test is not done and we write a file with the PC, when select "Charge only" again and power off the phone, the SD is corrupted.

I will modify my test list with this conclusion. Thanks.
[Desire Android Development] bemymonkey:
Does this really only happen with an ext partition? No confirmed cases with just, say, Froyo APPS2SD? :(
[Desire Android Development] siaoz85:
I'm also having the same corruption issues. Zzzzz.... One point to note, dun repair the errors when windows prompt you to! Juz leave it and everything would be fine!
[Desire Android Development] bemymonkey:
I realized that too late and I've lost quite a few files. Sure nothing will happen if you don't fix it at all with Windows? :(
[Desire Android Development] jorgenask:
anyone have a solution to this ?

having the same issue with official 2.2 rom with a2sd+

8gb memorycard wit 512mb ext2 partition.
[Desire Android Development] robbiekhan:
I'm going to ditch Apps2SD via SD-EXT in favour of FroYo A2SD instead I think to combat this issue as it's causing various USB mount issues too from time to time.
[Desire Android Development] Vulpix:
Am I the only one who has no issue at all? I'm able to copy/paste/delete just fine with an ext partition on my 16gb card.
[Desire Android Development] Alex-V:
mmhh..

so restart the phone and all is ok (take 1-2 min) and how often it happens that i make a photo look at the PC...make a photo again and then look at the pc..??

with kind regards..Alex
[Desire Android Development] kuailan:
Which Ext is that??? Ext 2? or 3 or 4? I think with EXT2 the issue is less severe. Once you restart the file can be seen from the explorer. Also the issue is nothing to do with delete, copy, and paste. I can also do just fine. It is whether the PC can see it or not...and sometime because of the connection to the PC cause the files to corrupt.

I think the only way out to this issue at the moment, one if you want to use the old app2sd just use the original EXT not 3 or 4. (just reboot and the files should be there) Or you can just go to the original FROYO APPS2D. Your choice...
[Desire Android Development] andycted:
Installed last cyanogen nightly (10/08) after a full wipe, taken pics and connected/disconnected the phone 5 times succesfully. Waiting to see if it's actually a coincidence.

EDIT: didn't realize it's not the ext partition causing problems, but it's actually the script. Since I'm using exactly the same microsd I experienced problems with, but I'm not experiencing the problem in cyanogen rom, this is apparently proving it.

(cyanogen doesn't use old A2SD+)
[Desire Android Development] simemu:
The photo is an example, there are several application that frequently write to SD. If you connect 2 times to pc before power off and write some files with pc, the corrupting arrives.

If not, why are there so many people with this problem?

Regards
[Desire Android Development] andycted:
Well so far it seems to me (correct if wrong):

- it happens regardless of the type of ext partition

- it happens only if you have the A2SD script + ext partition

- it doesn't happen if you have the ext partition, but no A2SD script

- does it happen if you have the A2SD script but no partition ???

- did it happen before the final HTC release ? It should have (on aosp for example) but I actually can't recall it
[Desire Android Development] simemu:
I must to write this text to edit this post.
[Desire Android Development] bemymonkey:
Definitely did. Even on OpenDesire 2.3a...
[Desire Android Development] Daelyn:
Might be way out there but here it goes:

Does it only happen with Windoze machines? Anyone with this issue using Mac/Linux?

It really shouldn't have anything to do with your issue, but Windows sometimes caches writes/changes to a disk device. It might be obvious to most (?), but if you don't use secure removal/unmount it can cause problems.

I don't use App2SD.. ..yet so I don't really have a clue what is happening.
[Desire Android Development] bemymonkey:
1. I have write caching disabled

2. Using safely remove hardware doesn't alleviate the symptoms either.

:(
[Desire Android Development] timbo13:
I can confirm that this problem exists when using a Mac running OS X 10.6.4.

My Desire is running LeeDroid 1.8 with a 512MB ext3 partition on an 8GB card.

Steps I took:

1. Took photo 1 on phone

2. Connected phone to Mac as disk drive

3. Located photo 1 successfully using the Mac

4. Safely ejected the disk within Mac OS X and disconnected phone

5. Took photo 2 on phone

6. Connected phone to Mac as disk drive

7. Could not locate photo 2 using the Mac

8. Powered phone off and then on

9. Connected phone to Mac as disk drive

10. Located photo 2 successfully using the Mac

It sounds to me like it is doing something wrong when it prepares the card to be mounted as a USB Drive or when the USB Drive is unmounted and it is "Preparing the SD Card", like not flushing recent changes to the file system from cache to disk or something. But when the system shuts down (power off) it forces the changes to be flushed from cache and written to disk so when it is powered on again, photo 2 can be found.
[Desire Android Development] kwaille:
Same problem here,but a little bit different.

When i download something from my desire,and then i plug it as mass storage,the file is here,but I get an error message when I try to transfer it.

When win prompts to analyse,i decline,and sometimes i have to reboot the phone to get the file on my pc...

:(
[Desire Android Development] jorgenask:
Hope one of the brilliant developers here at xda can come up with a solution of some kind to this somewhat annoying issue :)
[Desire Android Development] gianton:
I am using a non A2SD+ ROM right now because of this bug, hope a dev can fix this.
[Desire Android Development] jorgenask:
same here! :(
[Desire Android Development] SNaReX:
I still have same problem.

The only solution that i found is restarting phone.
[Desire Android Development] inamak:
Any updates on a fix for this issue? Makes me very worried to use legacy a2sd :confused:
[Desire Android Development] ruleamsterdam:
nvm....it was actually mentioned ;)
[Desire Android Development] Hayzie:
My 8gb card isn't even partitioned and I recently lost some photos and a video. Makes me sad I had captured some memorable moments and now they're gone :(

MyTouch Slide
[Desire Android Development] andycted:
I've seen some new roms around mentioning 'a2sd sd card problems fixed'. Anybody noticed ?
[Desire Android Development] andycted:
Happened to me too. Since then, whenever I plug the phone on the computer, picasa automatically backups photos...
[Desire Android Development] bemymonkey:
Interesting. I haven't had the problem lately, so that might actually be why...
[Desire Android Development] andycted:
I'm still having it on LeeDroid 2.0a, but that's not where it's mentioned. mmac-something was investigating the issue I think.

On the other hand, I started using the dual-mount program and finding it incredibly practical...
[Desire Android Development] bemymonkey:
Please elaborate... :eek:
[Desire Android Development] andycted:
Erm, the old tool that allows to mount the usb drive on the pc, while still using it in the phone. (smugness on) don't you know it ? (smugness off) hehehe.

There are more than a couple on the market, the one I use it right now costs 50c but I can't remember the name and is mainly used as widget
[Desire Android Development] bemymonkey:
Sounds good. I'll have to check the market... if you could dig up a link later that would be awesome. Do they work in general?

And no chance of this bug with those?
[Desire Android Development] andycted:
I think it's 'multi-mount sd card' or something like that.

So far the issue hasn't cropped up and no problems found. If you eject and 'unmount' from the pc, then you have to disconnect and reconnect the cable I think, if you want it to 'mount' again

I'm using it with HTC Sense roms
[Desire Android Development] bemymonkey:
I found it. Searching for "Multi Mount" works fine... and the widget itself works great (except it hung at a blank screen for like 30 seconds before the SU prompt came up when I tried to add it to my homescreen)... :)

Thanks for the tip!