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[HD2 Android SD Development] dcordes:
Look. The Linux kernel -the software we are talking about- is based on the work of countless individuals worldwide.

Some people do this work for free because they are driven by the believe that a free world in which everybody is granted the right of freedom of speech needs free and open source software.

Some do it because they are getting paid for it: Google pays professionals for the work on Linux so that extra 200.000 individuals every day carry a little google gold mine in their pocket. (A cell phone running anroid that makes people feed the Google databases with their quality information and make them feel like paying for 'apps'.)

No matter what the motivation is, every contribution to the Linux kernel brings everybody using Linux one step forward. Because the progress is made freely available to all of us.

It is that scientific process that makes the Linux kernel steadily progress regardless of individual (economical) interests.

And it is also the reason why you can start Linux (and any userspace that runs on it like Android) on your HTC HD2.

The key element to all this is the Gnu Public License.

If you (for whatever motivation) like the Linux kernel, please respect that it is release under that license and act with responsibility.

That is what I am asking.

I am not going to explain it in every detail. What is relevant here is the following:

If you are distributing GPL software in binary form you must be able provide the exact source code that was used to create the binaries when you are being asked for it. Exact means that even if you can make the majority of the source code available and lack only a small patch (e.g. RAM bump for HD2) to be able to provide the FULL source, you are not allowed to distribute the binary(Linux kernel zImage).

"the GPL grants the recipients of a computer program the rights of the free software definition and uses copyleft to ensure the freedoms are preserved, even when the work is changed or added to."

Check it out in full detail: on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnu_public_license

I am not attacking you so you don't need to go all defensive.

You arguing to disclaim yourself from the given responsibility by pointing your finger to your fellows and say 'look, they do it so I can violate GPL too'.

I think it needs no further comment.

All that Linux is asking from you is to respect the license.

cheers
[HD2 Android SD Development] MatthewYiu:
What Winmo ROM are you using...could be a compatibilty issue with the Winmo ROM

I use ENERGY and never had a problem with Android resetting by it self.
[HD2 Android SD Development] and2:
Theme

Can i change the theme of this build? i couldent find something in thehd2 android thread.

edit: maybe to this: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=736487
[HD2 Android SD Development] djingonthenet:
I have the same problem, am using 2.10.50 radio too, anyone have this issue with 2.12.50? If not might flash that radio and try again as I have used over 100mb data over phone network in last 24 hours, no video or music included in that! So need WiFi data desperately
[HD2 Android SD Development] ShAdOwfOx032:
That's pretty strange. On my build with sense, it worked right when I installed the rom. Not sure whats going on with yours.
[HD2 Android SD Development] sicdroid:
Just pinch the screen...

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[HD2 Android SD Development] ttownfeen:
Has anyone had problems with Sense not loading in WM after downloading Android?

I'm using Energy ROM, and sense will no longer load after I boot it up. I've had to turn Sense off, and let me say, Titanium UI kinda sucks.

I'm also having troubles with SOD. I reformatted my SD card to FAT32 using Vista before loading Android onto it. I haven't tried any of solutions in this thread yet, so I'll report back when I have.

Also, the screen does not stay on when I am charging the phone. I have a car dock, so I like to use the phone for GPS. (Google Navigation is SWEET, btw!)
[HD2 Android SD Development] johnboatcat:
Yes I have had trouble with sense not wanting to load

when I re-boot winmo. Very random though. If you turn off sense before booting Android it does not do it. Seems to happen less with the new builds.
[HD2 Android SD Development] pandnaka:
The froyostone with sense wouldn't play YouTube video from the YouTube app, it said something the video can't play! Anyone have the same issue as me?

I just try YouTube again it work fine!

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[HD2 Android SD Development] tsh:
Using Energy ROM as base

Quick question that I probably already know the answer to, but anyways ... I'm running Energy.Leo.23673.Sense2.5.Cookie.DinikGlass.Aug.06 and love the WinMo phone. No complaints on that build. However I want to play around with some of the Android ROMs since I haven't had an Android phone yet. I'm running the latest FroyoStone_Sense build and it's running strong, but I get the SOD (Sleep of Death). I'm just curious if anyone else is running a full-blown Energy ROM and using it to launch any Android builds with success? Of course the recommendation is to use ChuckyDroidROM-TMOUS as the base to launch FroyoStone ... but I want a full build of the WinMo phone to use when I'm not in Android mode.

My install was to an SD card formatted using SDFormatter2.9.0.5 ... Radio is 2.10.50.26 and I have no mods to the Energy ROM other than installing GAlarm and KeePass. Also using the boot launcher Jmz Android Dual-Boot.cab to auto-launch FroyoStone. Just curious if anyone else is using the same base ROM as me and not having SOD problems.
[HD2 Android SD Development] mackenziemi:
I am running pretty much the exact same build/config and I get the occassional SoD, I think it just comes with the territory
[HD2 Android SD Development] denisse_24:
iused to have problems with youtube with the stock ROM, but now im in energy ROM with android sense ,and no more issues with that
[HD2 Android SD Development] da-pharoah:
So question for any1 with TS issues.... are you using any sort of dual boot app like jmz or gen y or do u just click the two exe files with wm file explorer? One of my buddies was using jmz and he was having TS issues.. so he uninstalled jmz and now he is not having TS issues n e more.. I'm goin to try this and report back as I am using jmz and have been having TS issues..

But has n e one else had a similar experience?

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[HD2 Android SD Development] denisse_24:
yes i had the same prob, for that reason i uninstall the app
[HD2 Android SD Development] ttownfeen:
Well, I've had Sense turned off now for two days before booting FroyoStone. I get nothing when I turn Sense back on. If I turn Sense on and then reboot, the home screen is the background with "Lauching HTC Sense" and that's it.
[HD2 Android SD Development] pashaa1:
I am using ENERGY as well ... this never happened before and i have been trying many Android builds so far ...

I also tried to install manually the rosie.apk but with no success ... nothing happen when installing it ... I am going back to RC1.5 build for the moment untill i can figure it out ...
[HD2 Android SD Development] johnboatcat:
Yep same problems also even with sense off sometimes

Takes me a full restore to get back to normal.
[HD2 Android SD Development] jinharry:
Android with Energy ROM

I'm using the latest Energy ROM with the Cookie Interface. I have been able to run the latest Android FroyoStone version without any major issues other than my previously mentioned issue with wifi(see a few posts back). I did copy the Android files to a sub-directory \android under the root of the SD card. I run CLRCAD and then HARET.exe from this sub-directory.

Good luck and let us know if you see the same issue trying to use wifi...
[HD2 Android SD Development] darkt123:
Yeah, I'm having the same issue. They play after enough attempts. Sometimes midway through it fails. *shrug*
[HD2 Android SD Development] da-pharoah:
Update...

Ok so I uninstalled jmz and not only does Android boot faster but I have no TS issues so far.... knock on wood... but it does the trick for me... hope it helps any1 else with TS issues...

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[HD2 Android SD Development] lemonspeakers:
if u are having an issue with this, please take it up with a super moderator or take care of it via PM please.

most of us here would appreciate it.
[HD2 Android SD Development] da-pharoah:
I agree.. this thread is not the place for these comments/complaints..

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[HD2 Android SD Development] ttownfeen:
You mean a hard reset?
[HD2 Android SD Development] poweroutlet:
Can anyone who has used firestone v1 w/sense tell me how it differs from mattc 1.5 sense?

Mattc's was based on darkstone and seems to have the same benchmark numbers and features so what is different?
[HD2 Android SD Development] johnboatcat:
A hard reset would do it, but I just go to my SD card and run

my self-extracting backup of my working winmo system and apps. I use Sprite Backup. I set the restore to delete all files and to do a file for file restore and not a merge. Basically like an image restore with Ghost on the PC. Just takes a few minutes to restore all back to goody!
[HD2 Android SD Development] Bonobow:
Still not happy that I can't transfer my Winmo things to Android. wish someone could come up with something like that, like microsoft myphone...
[HD2 Android SD Development] csw621:
Is any one else experiencing an issue where threaded SMS messages appear out of chronological order?

TMOUS HD2

FroyoStone V1

Miri wm6.5 v17
[HD2 Android SD Development] McG1:
Yes. I get it, too. Sometimes it happens and sometimes it doesn't.
[HD2 Android SD Development] da-pharoah:
Dude wtf? Y don't u just make an app that will transfer ur "things" from PC to MAC?!? What things r u trying to transfer n e way?

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[HD2 Android SD Development] ttownfeen:
Isn't that the same thing as re-flashing the ROM from the SD card? Sorry to keep asking noobish questions. I just do not want to brick my phone, so I always have to ask things twice.

Don't know about him Bonobow, but I would like to able to transfer SMS conversations in addition to the phonebook and internet favorites.
[HD2 Android SD Development] sicdroid:
What are you trying to transfer??

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[HD2 Android SD Development] csw621:
I think he means browser bookmarks, calendar appointments, system settings, things of that nature.
[HD2 Android SD Development] darkt123:
I believe that is a mismatch between the internal clock of the phone and the time the network flagged the message. Something like that. There was a fix for this in windows mobile. I think it's a registry fix, and most likely an oversight in this build no biggy.
[HD2 Android SD Development] johnboatcat:
No not like a flash

You make a complete backup of your system with apps and everything using one of the backup programs. If it messes up you just restore and it is back to normal with all apps settings, emails and SMS's from the point you did the BU.
[HD2 Android SD Development] johnboatcat:
I would like to congradulate you all for maintaining your civility

and direction of purpose during the recent raid by the Gnu Police. You make me proud to be a part of this thread!
[HD2 Android SD Development] sicdroid:
You can back up your settings and apps installed with your Gmail Sync... plus you can back up your SMS to Gmail also, it creates a Archive and uploads to iGoogle. FYI.. as soon as reinstall and log into my account, it restores settings, remembers my downloaded apps and starts downloading them. Even remembers wall paper. Lol

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[HD2 Android SD Development] Bimboy:
dcordes, with all due respect.. why post stuff like this buried in a thread? Unless you have a personal vendetta against darkstone (and I'm sure you do not, but it sure comes across that way), you're far better served by creating a thread with your opinions.

You are off topic and coming across as the GNU-police while burying your criticisms in this thread, all against on of the "good guys". You will not make the slightest perceptible dent in the issues you are standing up for, in the manner you're taking this cause up.

Cheers

Back on topic, darkstone, applied gps.conf, .so fixes, and am using Manus' full ram kernel on your sense build with amazing results (1475 in Quadrant). Last thing for me would be to get BT headset profiles working. There's no sound (but I know it is a known issue). THANK YOU.
[HD2 Android SD Development] johnboatcat:
He is trying to restore winmo after winmo sense gets corrupted after

booting Android. Happens to me about every 10 or 15 boots. Don't know why.
[HD2 Android SD Development] ttownfeen:
Okay, I downloaded a trial of SpriteBackup and am using that. I will re-flash my ROM when get on my laptop later. My desktop currently isn't recognizing my phone in Activesync. :(
[HD2 Android SD Development] Bonobow:
Like i said before,

everything that i could back up with Microsoft Myphone.

I wish I could transfer it all to Andriod.

and I should make a program to do it? I would if I could...

But I can't that's why I'm asking.
[HD2 Android SD Development] Worpor:
Keeping everyone happy :rolleyes::D
[HD2 Android SD Development] johnboatcat:
You need to do a Sprite backup when the system is stable and

working. You would just backup the corrupted files now. Try and save your apps and stuff, but you may have to reload them after a hard reset. Don't know why you need a re-flash. Once you get it back to stable then do a complete backup.
[HD2 Android SD Development] pianokeys822:
Hi. So I'm having a problem with sleep of death on froyo sense. I'm using Miri 6.5 v17 with radio 2.10.50.26 . Is there any way to fix this?
[HD2 Android SD Development] DarkStone1337:
I never even mentioned disclaiming myself from the responsibility, I even told you in that post that I am co-operating. http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=7599374&postcount=970

"In any case, in order to keep folks happy, I will not include any kernel with newer builds. Users will be forced to compile/download precompiled kernels."

Again, this does not look good, the way you are getting your point across seems like you are attacking me. Are you suprised that I am defensive? Even other people in this thread say so. Even people on IRC are saying so.

Anyway, I know how the license works, no need to explain it to me. What I actually wanted you to answer is why can't the developers share their patches/source if they are uploading said kernels without the patch/source?

Are they not breaking the GPL too? If this is the case, are you on their case too? If they released the patches alongside with the compiled kernel, we would not have this problem in the first place. You completely ignored this point in my previous post. They should not publicly be providing compiled kernels if they cannot provide the source/patch. They are breaking GPL. This is a major issue that needs solving, simply telling me off here isn't going to fix the root of the problem.

I do not want to resort to filling this thread up with these posts, therefore this will be the last post on this subject from myself. Feel free to reply on this thread or speak to me directly on IRC.

P.S, don't think that I'm mad at you, I understand completely why you are getting your point across. But PLEASE in future, contact me directly if you have ANY issues at all. I am always willing to listen.
[HD2 Android SD Development] noellenchris:
run sktools in wm and scan you sd card. this fixes issues for me everytime.
[HD2 Android SD Development] garung05:
wow, everything is nice but i am getting the robotic voice

i am getting so upset

i tried everything

i know i run the clrd before running the other one

any suggestion?

thanks
[HD2 Android SD Development] henninghh990:
Anyone else having trouble with the screen not wanting to wake up sometimes, and it takes a few seconds?
[HD2 Android SD Development] Cass67:
yes its normal
[HD2 Android SD Development] djdelahoz:
Where can you find sktools... I was unsucessfull in finding it here on the forums
[HD2 Android SD Development] McG1:
I know this is gonna sound odd, but it seems to me that ever since I installed Better Keyboard from the Market that I bought a while ago the touch response issue I was having has gone away.

Maybe it's just a coincidence.
[HD2 Android SD Development] noellenchris:
http://www.s-k-tools.com/?sktools/m_feat.html
[HD2 Android SD Development] darkt123:
I wish mommy and daddy would stop fighting :(.

Little darkt123 doesn't know to compile his own kernels. Does this mean mommy and daddy don't love us and our repetitive questions and constant nagging?
[HD2 Android SD Development] sicdroid:
I am pretty sure the Dev's are on the right track with the G-Sensor being the issue, but.... I installed the STOCK FROYO keyboard because the Sense keyboard is an abortion, I have not experienced the touch issue. Not sure if it has anything to do with it but....

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[HD2 Android SD Development] djdelahoz:
thank you! where is the scan option? is it the clean? thanks a lot
[HD2 Android SD Development] jinharry:
Update - Not the radio

I just flashed a newer radio (2.12.50.02_2) and I still can't access the web, Google Maps, etc. via wifi. 3G/EDGE still works fine.
[HD2 Android SD Development] noellenchris:
under sd card tools somewhere. I forget off hand, but look for the sd card and the bottom left menu on that sd card page there is an option for scan. run that and it always seems to find at least one error. then I usually have no more problems for a few days. :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] ttownfeen:
So you're saying I have no other option than to do a hard reset? A hard reset would remove any custom ROM I'm using correct?

I'm sorry I keep clogging up this thread with my stupid questions about WM. I would rather forget about it completely and use Android full-time because Darkstone's build is so awesome!
[HD2 Android SD Development] 11calcal:
No a hard reset will just wipe all data from your phone but your custom rom & files on SD card stay intact
[HD2 Android SD Development] Segnaro:
Yeah, I could see that being the problem. I get most of the freezes when typing in landscape mode.
[HD2 Android SD Development] Chitown021:
You know, by posting this I'll probably jinx it but so far I seem to have solved the freezing screen issue.

I don't know if this has any connection but ever since I went into WM and turned off all connections I have not experienced the freeze (so far!).

This build is great so far, I can't wait for the next one! Just a few more minor things need fixing and this build will be perfect!

EDIT: F@cker froze as soon as I made this post!
[HD2 Android SD Development] murdaralph:
I ran the speed test that i downloaded from the market. Im at about 2.5mb/down and 56kb/UP!!!!!!!!????????? why is it so low?
[HD2 Android SD Development] nadialif:
Thanks for the info, its working.... freeze no more
[HD2 Android SD Development] murdaralph:
Okay im working on my friends phone. I flashed HardSPL3 and then flashed miri's v17. Im using stock T mobile USA hd2 radio. I reformatted the sd card and extracted the sense build into it. Restarted and booted android.

The green led light keeps flashing while booting and when its done. Soon after i get SOD. I did the exact same setup as my phone and two total outcomes. My phone has been working perfect haven't had a SOD since 08/07/2010 What could be the problem ??
[HD2 Android SD Development] thihaz:
is this build rooted?

I wonder whether we got root access or not.

When I try to change the system font, I got an error.

If not rooted, is there any way to root it?

Thanks.
[HD2 Android SD Development] roman2113:
Yes these builds are rooted.
[HD2 Android SD Development] murdaralph:
Im here thinking pounding away at my poor little brain to figure out why isnt the exact same setup working for my friends phone?? So i run through the process again. When i come up on the setup to reformat the sdcard I look at the tab allocation unit size.. By default it says 32kb??!??!!!?!??!? So i popped my sd card in and click format to see what my sdcard default for allocation was at it was 4XXXkb. So im guessing allocating 32kb will cause trouble when booting on the sd card (common sense tells me) So i changed the setting and reformatting it now again to see if it solves my problem. Im pretty sure it did. We will see.
[HD2 Android SD Development] thihaz:
thanks.

if it is rooted, how can I change the font? i got no space error.thanks.
[HD2 Android SD Development] da-pharoah:
Are u trying to connect to different WiFi networks or just a certain 1? Also which version r u running clean or sense? Have u tried switching to the other version of darkstones Rom and see if u still have that issue???

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[HD2 Android SD Development] tsh:
OK, I removed the dual boot app and did a cold boot into Energy. Manually launched FroyoStone_Sense and have been running all night with no SOD. Maybe that was it? As for WiFi issues, none experienced for me. Happy right now!
[HD2 Android SD Development] davefried81:
This is a wicked fast build. I am loving this next to the Froyo 2.2 build- Keep up the good work! I have already donated, and plan on donating as progress moves along! :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] goof1427:
quick thought..i wonder if v2 will have it installin on the nand... would that make it more stable? less bsod?
[HD2 Android SD Development] murdaralph:
If your having SOD then i suggest a new setup. So far i havent had a SOD since i installed it.

miri 6.5 v17 rom / stock USA hd2 Tmobile radio / with this build.
[HD2 Android SD Development] MartyLK:
I'm going to have a huge signature if this keeps up. I finally figured out how to smooth out the Launcher Pro "Clean" version and it is majorly sweet. This chef really has some serious capabilities.

First off I got the build set up with all the apps I use and homescreens configured pretty close to the way I want...will be continually refining them...and adjusted all of the desired settings...like time format, dock settings etc. Then, instead of installing SetCPU, I rebooted a few times, deleting the Android folder each time, and viola`!.

Letting the system brew for a good while after occasionally rebooting seems to help with the touchscreen responsiveness issues I've with LP equipped builds. As it is right now, the responsiveness is buttery smooth. And this is one gorgeous looking stock build. Love the greenish theme.

My compliments to the chef.
[HD2 Android SD Development] shineproductions:
AMEN! :)

AMEN! hehhe :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] rexthunder:
I just have a question. I see a lot of people posting about their US T-mobile Leo but I have a unlocked HD2 that i use with US ATT. I tried this ROM out and everything worked but yes the robotic voice issue. I'm already on Radio 2.10.50.26, and I'm wondering if I flash my radio will I loose my unlock or my ability to connect with ATT after the flash?

Thanks in advance.
[HD2 Android SD Development] songokussm:
No, unlock is completely unrelated to your radio, rom, or anything else. its part of in laymens terms, the bios or baseband of the phone.

Your robotic voice issue has a sticky thread with the solutions in it. Flashing your radio will NOT fix it.
[HD2 Android SD Development] phaxis:
there's an option for home button to use Laucher or LauncherPRO. i like Launcher because the appdrawer scrolls and look like a cube.

the problem with launcher is that the phone shortcut on dock says "application is not installed on your phone." also it has no preference/settings so i cant make it auto-rotate to landscape.

is there a way to fix this?

However, LaucherPRO i can access preferences. is there a way to make the LauncherPRO configured for cubed style scrolling.