yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] TheBiles:
What settings did he actually use? I don't feel like watching the video just to get them.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] hacku:
I'm selling my Motorola Droid since I have upgraded to the Droid X. The phone was purchased in January and still looks almost brand new since it's had Ghost Armor since I bought it.

The phone is rooted and running Bugless Beast @ 800mhz and runs super smooth. The phone will include original box and paperwork, desktop charger w/ USB cable, 16GB MicroSD card, Motorola Multimedia Station with box and the Motorola Card Dock with box.

Asking $250 for the phone since you will not need a contract to set it up.

I can provide the phones ESN# if you would like to verify with Verizon that it hasn't been reported lost/stolen.

I accept PayPal and will ship anywhere in the continental US.

I will email you pictures of everything if you're interested.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] hacku:
Dropped the price to $250 for everything. That seems to be a fair market price.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Justblair:
This might be more than a little geeky, but perhaps someone with an knowledge of how the hardware is addressed by the two different operating systems can help me out with further information.

I have been investigating the behaviour of the HTC HD2 whilst charging as I wish to make a car charger and also modify a USB port on a device to fast charge my HD2 (ie turn an O2 Joggler into a charging station).

So I have been analysing the fast charging behaviour of the HD2.

Ok so far? Here is what I discovered.

The HTC charger when connected to the HD2 charges the device with just under 1A at 5v. The current that is supplied is limited by the HD2 itself.

On a standard USB port, the HD2 charges at just below 1/2A, the limit to what a standard USB port is spec'd to deliver.

Here is the interesting bit.

The Data lines (D+ and D-) of the USB cable are supplied with a 3.3v (Approx)) signal from the HTC wall charger. This tells the HD2 that it is safe to draw the full 1A line via the USB cable.

Now on Windows Mobile something interesting happens on the Data lines when the phone is connected. The Lines hold high at 3.3v for 250ms as seen here:

After that is drops back down. It is even possible at this stage to disconnect the Data lines and the phone continues to draw 1A of current...

Now when Android is running on the HD2, the charging behaviour is different. The Data lines hold high at 3.3v for the whole time that the charger is plugged in.

Clearly under windows control, the data lines are somehow being either switched off at the charger or more likely being sunk to ground at the phone end. Quite why, I'm unsure...

My questions:

Can someone with knowledge of how the OS's operate shed some light on this?

Is there a risk of damage to the data lines from charging under Android?

Should the android drivers be re-written to emulate this windows behaviour?

Should I perhaps get a life??... Ok I think I know the answer to this one!

I am using the Darkstone Sense build and Miri 6.5 V17 FWIW
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kingofyo1:
ooh what oscope you using?? :P sorry, had to ask i mean it looks alot better than the POS ones we're using to train on
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Justblair:
The DSO Nano...

http://www.justblair.co.uk/seeed-studio-dso-nano-pocket-digital-storage-oscilloscope-review.html

A little limited, but cheap and very portable, perfect for this kinda stuff...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] memin1857:
AFAIK even directly shorting usb data pins work with high current charging. (You can even slide a thin metallic foil to the connector) Some people use chargers with standart usb ports with charging cables that have data pins shorted. (as standart chargers don't have data pins shorted, even if they can provide more then 1/2A)

I have charged my phone under Android a lot times, nothing bad has happened yet. I have used properly/originally shorted microusb chargers from HTC, Samsung and Motorola. All these three chargers have data pins shorted from the factory. Android is able to differentiate AC charging from USB charging.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Justblair:
Thanks for that, though I am confused. My experiments show that the Data Pins are held in a high state (3.3v) to initiate charging to the HD2. ie the phone decides on the rate of charge according to whether a voltage is present. I am interested in what pins are shorted and why?

I have a test rig now set up, so I can test this for sure, but I am not sure if shorting out the charger (ie connecting data to ground?) is going to be good for its health.

My original curiosity as to the difference between how WinMo and Android instruct the charging circuit still stands. :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nordicfastware:
It is geeky indeed, but I have to say, wall charging under android is soooo much faster thatn on winmo. About twice as fast.

Q: Is that bad for the battery life ? (it may also heat a bit as the result of the fast charging.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Justblair:
Hmmm... Are you sure?

Reason I ask, is that the amount of current drawn by either WinMo is exactly the same.

If what you say is true, WinMo must be "loosing" some of the amps during the charging process. I am unsure as how to visualise this with a scope though it should be reasonably possible to measure the time taken to charge a battery. I have not noticed a difference, however I put mine on charge overnight usually so I am not really aware of how quick or otherwise the charge takes

Interesting thing to test:D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nordicfastware:
Hmmm, well maybe not twice, but I sat down and checked, it can rise up to 1 % a minute in AC charging under Android, never seen this in winmo.

I have also noticed (with the built I am using now) that sometimes I let it charge the whole night, and in the morning, I can only see it charged to 93 or 94 % and not increasing anymore, somehow roofed to 93%, then I unoplug it and plug it back and it start to go up to 100% again at a fast pace....

Strange indeed, I guess not everything is sorted yet...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] poweroutlet:
I have read on the forum some other members saying that charging on android might be damaging to the phone. I'm a little worried about this, but it seems like no one knows if it really is. I have been switching to winmo to charge at night just in case.

I suspect that charging under android shouldn't actually be different, isn't at least some of this stuff handled at the hardware level and not at OS level?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] RJackson:
The only way it could damage the phone is if it was overcharging the battery (charging beyond it's capacity), however the HD2 has a chip that prevents this (google ds2746).
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] HectiQ:
Yes, but the hardware depends on software instructions.. Those from the bootloader HaRet, which loads all components.

So as far as I know, if the devs didn't include this in their releases of bèta-android versions, the chip won't act like it's supposed to...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nordicfastware:
Well I think that is serious stuff.

People should be informed that there is a risk, if there is one of course. I mean appart from the "Use at your own risk, you may brick your device... " and all that stuff that is true by the way.

But in the worst case it can only reduce the life of your battery ? And worse case scenario you buy a new battery if capacity it too crapy ? (not extremely expansive).

Please Post if someone has an idea.

Is there an app outhere that check health of batteries and capcity compared to "as new" as we have for laptops ?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Justblair:
Of course you are right....

I misunderstood what you meant my shorting the pins... Yes joined together the two data pins indeed trigger the fast charge. I have replicated it on the bench.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Cotulla:
WM driver checks DMinus level and if it high assume this is AC charger, shutdown USB totally and enable fast charging.

Android driver actually based on google nexus driver and already have this feature implemented. seems it's doesn't shutdown USB.

other device, like desire and nexus also use this kind of AC detection.

I dunno if it can harm device.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] songokussm:
A new battery is 10 bucks. A small price to pay for running android before its 'prime time' ready, if theres something wrong. Plus the Devs know more about this stuff then I ever will. I trust them.

Amazon htc hd2 official battery (http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Standard-..._1_1?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1282068278&sr=8-1)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leonnib4:
Hi,

I found the --update_package=SDCARD:update.zip command that, when written to /cache/recovery/command can let the recovery auto-execute the flash.

I searched for other commands but did not found a thing (xda, google)...

Isn't it an index somewhere on what commands can be executed?

I hope there is some others... isn't it?

Thx
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djmcnz:
Not sure I fully understand...

Do you want the commands available in recovery shell?

If so, it's all busybox... but perhaps I misunderstand?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leonnib4:
I think its not busybox. Ill try to express myself better:

The file cache/recovery/command can have recovery commands that will be auto executed on next boot into recovery.

What are they? Any list?

The only one i know is --update-package which flash an update.zip

Sent from my Nexus One
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leonnib4:
Bump!

Come one, someone has to know.

Please, that could really be helpfull for all ROM cookers
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] britoso:
Since you have the AOSP code, have you tried searching through it ?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leonnib4:
From the stock recovery I can see:

--update_package=root: path - verify install an OTA package file

--wipe_data - erase user data (and cache), then reboot

--wipe_cache - wipe cache (but not user data), then reboot

But what about custom recoveries?

Do they have other commands?

I see no other commands from koush's repository @ github and just wanted to be sure.

My main question is: is there recovery commands for nanbackup? :)
[Nexus One General] iVisionX01:
I've moved all my apps th at I can to the SDCard but I'm still low on storage.

Nexus One running CM6 RC2
[Nexus One General] cymru:
You can't "get more internal storage". Try deleting some stuff though to free up more space, your one and only solution
[Nexus One General] iVisionX01:
Yea that's what I meant. Wasn't there something where you could move the dalvik cache to the SD card to free up lot of space?
[Nexus One General] cymru:
Hmm yeah but moving the Cache to a slow Storage Card basically defeats the point of having cache.... Also I know a few people who have done it have ended up with unstable phones.

It would free up alot of space but its whether you wanna risk having to hardreset your phone if all goes tits up

Here is the Cyanogen How-To on moving the dalvik cache, im not sure how up to date it is though -->

http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Dalvik-cache-relocation
[Nexus One General] jojoatt:
google earth installed? at 20+mb maybe remove it (until it's able to be moved to SD card), you got maps anyway
[Nexus One General] iVisionX01:
I got google earth on the SD card.
[Nexus One General] j.bruha:
I found my web browser eating a ton of data that it stores. If you clear it fully, it frees up around 10mb or more, depending on how long since you did it last, but be careful. It's very possible to delete your bookmarks and other important data depending on how you delete it.
[Nexus One General] khaytsus:
Using Froyo's method? That moves like 4M of 20M for Google Earth.

If you want more space, you'll want to use the old apps2sd method, which moves EVERYTHING.
[Nexus One General] iVisionX01:
Oh I see. If I were to use the old method then tried restoring my apps would they automatically reinstall even if I wiped the ext2/3/4 partition?
[XPERIA X10 General] arj154:
according to joystiq, sony are planning to launch a playstation branded phone which runs android 3.0 and it can also run psp games. Seems like a very interesting concept and if they do it, i'd be very tempted to buy it.

HP Sauce.
[XPERIA X10 General] htc fan89:
That's going be awesome, Just hope it doesn't looking like a brick lol.
[XPERIA X10 General] arj154:
true, the xperia x10 isnt the most slender handset on the market but then again the psp isnt very portable either. I thought the concept of having psp games on other android handsets was interesting though, not too sure how it would work without the hardware controls.
[XPERIA X10 General] vrs2610:
well its sound pretty nice, but first time i heard the n-gage came to my mind. Not like comparing the two but yea. It would be successful if they add a good battery. So will it like replace the psp or like if it comes out what happens to the psp?

But before SE begins with this they better fix and work on the X10 first, until then they can shove the xperia psp up there.
[XPERIA X10 General] junkk29:
Yeaa! I saw it on Engadget too from here: http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/11/exclusive-sony-ericsson-to-introduce-android-3-0-gaming-platfor/

Note that the picture isn't the actual phone but its a poor mockup from the site. It's suppose to run on Gingerbread 3.0 too? hmm, can't wait how this PSP phone will turn out. I bet the news satisfies a lot of SE fans who've been waiting for this dream phone :)
[XPERIA X10 General] htc fan89:
I bet it's going turn into an nightmare phone lol
[XPERIA X10 General] se_dude:
Yea, i so expect HTC to come out with their XBOX phone. GOW3 here we come. :D
[XPERIA X10 General] arj154:
well windows phone 7 supports the whole xbox live system (meaning it'll have achievements etc) so its practically an "xbox phone".

I just hope they support the x10 even when this new phone is out.
[XPERIA X10 General] se_dude:
Having access to xbox live is different to playing games on your phone.
[XPERIA X10 General] Ny88:
It will have to have one hell of a battery!
[Vibrant General] ntellegence:
Would my phone being rooted prevent me from receiving the myfaves app from tmobile?
[Vibrant General] Heyslick:
You don't have the Myfave app on the vibrant. But as long as you have them set they will work. If you wanna manage them you have to do it through the mytmobile site.

Mod can you plz remove my 1 post per 5 min it is driving me Crazy.....
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xtmo22x:
ok guys.... i know you said to basically post a help thread only as a last resort. well this is my last resort. ive searched and googled and have come up empty handed. i even messaged the guy who posted the youtube video i used. i installed the leaked ota update (the one with 720p video and 3g hotspot) and now my camera has everything but its a black screen. the flash button the view last pics button, all that is there but theres no picture to take. hope i didnt confuse you. pleease! any and all help would be greatly appreciated.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jdkoreclipse:
Try koush camera fix kernel...or maybe a hydra
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xtmo22x:
i dont think hydra has anything for this. i was on there earlier today. what is koush? i can not find that anywhere...
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jdkoreclipse:
Go on Rom manager, under ihtfp69, and download koush camera fix
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xtmo22x:
ok.... i just found out my wifi wont turn on. if you go into settings > wireless & networks, it says unable to turn on wifi..... any suggestions?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xtmo22x:
No idea how to find that one lol. Still same as yesterday. No camera, no wifi... I don't think I have enough know-how to downgrade either....
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kentoe:
What is your radio version when you boot into HBOOT?

(i.e. holding volume down while booting up)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] DvTonder:
How long should the ODIN repartition take before I start seeing the reflash happening? Have been sitting on "Set PIT File, DO NOT TURN OFF TARGET" for 10+ minutes. Worried that my reflashing is somehow not working.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] DvTonder:
Never mind - problem solved
[Hero CDMA General] mbobino:
Hi everyone.

I'd like to start out by saying that most of you don't know me as I haven't done anything (yet) to help the community. However, in an effort to contribute something I'm proposing that I will help to keep the wiki up to date. I have learned most of the syntax to MediaWiki and have gone through and cleaned up our section. I believe the wiki idea is an awesome (and easy) way to find info as it is needed. I have really been enjoying editing the wiki and hope you guys will help me by letting me know when your ROMs are updated so I can update the wiki. Keep in mind that it is still open for anyone to edit and that I'm not asking for a "Wiki Mod" type of position, I just want to help. If you have anything you want posted to the wiki and don't want to do it yourself, my gmail is mbobino(at)gmail.com, or you can send me a PM and I'll update it as soon as possible.

Here's a link for anyone who wants it:Hero CDMA Wiki
[Hero CDMA General] derekwilkinson:
I didn't see what it looked like before, but it looks good.

Nice job
[Hero CDMA General] theresthatguy:
Looks damn good and clean. Keep it up buddy.
[Hero CDMA General] c00ller:
Great job!!

The only things I can think of that should be added are more Guides:

-How to adb (I know someone wrote a thread somewhere but can't find it atm)

-How to use adb to remove Sprint Nascar, Stocks, etc.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=581635 and http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=581976

-How to boot into recovery/do stuff in recovery/nandroid

BTW this needs to be stickied or posted as an announcement in all subforums (General, Q&A, Development, Themes) because much too often I've seen the same question asked 10 times/week...
[Hero CDMA General] markus_del_marko:
glad someone is doing it finally.
[Hero CDMA General] mbobino:
Thanks for all the support guys.

I'm working on adding more guides tonight. I'll write up an in depth guide on ADB. I don't think one has been done to the extent I have in mind.
[General Questions and Answers] ammarbeckham:
when i click run in the haret file an error window pops, and underneath the (run)

there is a box that says listen for network connection , under there there is this line:: found machine generic MSM7xxxA WHAT SHOULD I DOO??
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] envoykrawkwarrior7:
to start yes i used the search bar, for a while. and quite frankly it didn't help one bit

im just curious as to how it works so i could try to figure it out on my own evo as im very impatient to find a way to root my 2.2 phone.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 063_XOBX:
I don't know what makes you think you'll find one before the experts but a root is an exploit in the software that allows flashing custom recovery, SU and the engineering HBOOT
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] envoykrawkwarrior7:
just because someones an expert doesnt make them perfect...

but i work in the satellite industry and commonly do things similar to rooting a phone and am willing to try my hand at doing it on my phone
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aldojr:
Actually your wrong. We use magical beans to empower the very essence of one self, thus making root possible. Ok back to reality its not something you can learn over night trust me. I have been working on some solutions got real close just to get thrown further back. Patience is key to anything in life.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PikkonX:
Basically, root is like being the "master administrator" of the file system on your phone. Without root, the phone just recognizes you as an ordinary user and will only give you the ability to read and write to certain parts of the system. Once you find a way for the system to recognize you as "root", you then have access to everything. You can read and write and do almost whatever you want. This could be pretty dangerous if you don't know what you're doing, but that's why we have the SU app to control what is getting full access and what isn't. If you haven't already had experience with a Linux OS to know this, your chances of finding an exploit to root 2.2 are pretty much .00485% :D.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sombdy:
Root is akin to the networking term "full administrator access". The Android filing system is setup with permission requirements for accessing certain areas. Root means you have been granted read/write access instead of just read-only.

I believe root is also a Linux term denoting the lowest directory on any particular storage device. By rooting, you gain read/write access to this area of your phone's sdcard and the internal storage.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] garyfunk:
Roots are constantly growing and digging into the soil for more nutrients and water to feed on. Roots use time and pressure to find water. The penetration may start as an almost microscopic root end, but over time the root grows thicker and pushes its way in deeper, growing more tendrils along the way.​
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] topdawgn8:
---Like---
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fachadick:
I've seen some replies as to what what is, but not how you get there. To answer the OP, to get to root, you have to be able to find an exploit in the software that allows you to flash recovery. Once you're able to flash recovery, that can be used to flash su permissions bootloaders, roms, etc. The last exploit was found in how the phone uses flash, and some root methods had you actually opening the browser and going to any site that was running something in flash - this would open the loophole and allow access to things that are normally blocked.

This loophole/exploit has been plugged with 2.2, so now a whole new rood method has to be discovered.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] envoykrawkwarrior7:
thank you pikkon and fachadick you two have been the most helpful in this.

but also so what your saying is theres no ##xxxxxx# code i could put in to find the administration change menu or anything like that?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] garyfunk:
If you really want to learn, get some books on Linux and read everything about root access and how to hack the root user.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fachadick:
Supposedly there is some sort of code to get access, but its supposed to be impossible to crack. Wiser men than I have discussed the possibility of using brute force attacks to crack the code, but those ideas were discounted when the numbers were crunched and it was determined that it would take a ridiculously long time, using state of the art equipment. As I understand it, the only way to get a crack at the code is if the key is leaked, and it was agreed that the odds of that happening are pretty much nil.

Your best bet if you're serious, is probably to pick up some books on the subject, like the other post mentioned. Try and see if anything in your day-to-day can be transferred over to solving the problem. The way I see it, the more people working on it, the better.

Sent from my blah blah blah blah
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] weidnerj:
I can see 100,000 Iphones Evos working together to crack the SU password. SETI @ Evo team maybe?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] garyfunk:
It is the root password. Find out the password and you are in.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fachadick:
LOVE IT! +1!

Sent from my blah blah blah blah