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[Droid Incredible Android Development] cooksalot:
Hubby says wait to see if they can turn the s-off back to s-on. After all I'm a accident prone geek, and it runs in my family. :rolleyes: So if I drop it and break the glass I can get it replaced. :o Some confidence huh? I've had my ipod touch for almost 3 years and it's just fine. :D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] IShootPixels:
You guys ROCK!

Unrevoked Forever, Hydra 1.15, and 2.15 radio. Oh what a night!

Thank you Thank you Thank you
[Droid Incredible Android Development] IShootPixels:
Boot into Recovery and I think it should say at the top along with the radio version.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] s197:
Not recovery, boot to the bootloader to see if shows S-off.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] IShootPixels:
You're right, my bad.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ogre150:
I tried to do that. It kept giving me a list of commands on how to use mount but none of them seemed to work.

My line:

mount /system -r/-w

I tried from before and after Su command. Even tried cd /system then my line from above. I'm still learning this type of programming etc.

Thanks.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] trombone dixie:
Anyone else having issues installing apps from the market after installing unrevoked forever?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Picao:
If you drop it and break the glass it will not matter if you have it rooted or not, they will not cover it unless you have the Asurian policy then it does not matter if you send them a phone or tell them it is lost.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Picao:
Yep, ended up install skyraider rom after I did a full whipe and then everything showed up again. I could go to the market, select something and it would tell me it was downloading but never happen.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] adrynalyne:
mount -o remount,rw -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SimonTuffGuy:
Or you could use Root Explorer for a couple bucks....
[Droid Incredible Android Development] xdarkfirex:
Its from Riley from the boondocks season 3 the episode making fun of Tyler Perry.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] shoman24v:
I have S-OFF and when I try to remove an apk for a test it says:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SeanRinVA:
Root access does not equal read/write.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] shoman24v:
I thought the purpose of this was to be able to do stuff within the OS along with flash files that aren't signed?

Unless mounting the system is still something you have to do?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
Nope. Installed Voice Search this morning with no trouble.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] youngproguru:
Parts of the Android file system are not mounted as Read Write by default. This is true no matter if the NAND is locked or unlocked. The System partition is read only. However it can be mounted a read/write from the command line or by using a file manager like Root Explorer.

Be very careful.

-Make a backup first of your system.

-Try not to dable in your system directory without first putting alot of thought into what you are doing

-If possible do not delete or overwrite files, just rename them with a new extension, like .bak

-And, if your NAND is unlocked, you need to be much more with .zip patches, et. If you flash your phone with an untested, or damaged patch you could now overwrite your NAND, and have a unfix-able brick.

--> BACKUP, BACKUP, BACKUP
[Droid Incredible Android Development] TNS201:
You have to mount system still if you are doing it like that, just get root explorer and its easier.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] shoman24v:
Ah, well then that explains everything!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] TrailBlazer31:
could also use titanium backup
[Droid Incredible Android Development] trombone dixie:
When I do a full wipe the apps I had set to auto-update get redownloaded. It just won't let me download new apps.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] pmazz850:
I need some help here...

I did unrevoked forever, the update installed, the phone rebooted. I shut down the phone to go into recovery and see if s-off was showing and the phone doesn't want to turn on. when I went and held vol down and hit power, the phone vibrated a couple times and now it doesnt want to do anything. should i puul the battery or what? Is it a brick? Please help!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ogre150:
I think that you went into the Qualcomm debug that's on there. I believe you can pull battery and then use the optical button and power to get into hboot to see the s-off.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] krelvinaz:
You

DID READ

the unrevoked forever page in full with the update info on it, right??

http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever

It discusses this issue in the FAQ section.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hfam:
First post here, been reading like there's no tomorrow though. Hoping someone can help out with a bit of info.

I have a dinc. Used unrevoked to provide clockwork and su. Works great, haven't done any radio updates or custom ROM updates, just have some root-required programs and the Wireless Tethering installed. Love everything so far.

I received an email from Verizon the other day indicating the official Froyo update would be pushing in a few weeks, so I'm trying to figure out how I can apply that update and re-obtain clockworkmod/su abilities, and a bonus would being able to retain my current programs and settings.

I see that unrevoked-forever is now out, and it looks like this may my ticket to achieving the above!! I see that on the forever site it indicates that if I install Forever:

"....even if I take an OTA update that doesn't give me root, I can get root back by flashing a clockworkmod, then doing an update.zip that provides su".

The site also shows how the recommended process to do this is, which is essentially by going back to a stock recovery...questions below.

My question is this: Let's say Verizon is pushing the OTA Froyo today, and I want to accept it, but I want to re-attain my clockworkmod and su abilities after I apply the update. Is the following correct?

1. Apply unrevoked-forever

2. Apply a stock recovery image for Incredible

(can someone please provide a link to download this?)

3. Accept the OTA update (Verizon's official Froyo when they push it)

- (At this point, I'm assuming I now have the official 2.2 update installed, but no clockwork, no su)

4. Flash a Clockworkmod recovery image (obtained this from the Forever site)

5. Flash an update.zip that provides su

(can someone please provide a link to download this?)

At this point I would have the official Verizon 2.2 Froyo, clockworkmod is reinstalled, and su is reinstalled, and my apps and settings are still all in place as they are now?

Also wondering if could just use Unrevoked 3.1 to perform steps 4 and 5 above?

I'm so excited about this and really want to thank the Unrevoked team and all here who participate and make this possible.

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated!!

Thanks,

hfam
[Droid Incredible Android Development] lafester:
could be wrong but I don't think you will be able to do 4&5 with the OTA.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ogre150:
As long as you have s-off you can download clockworkmod from the unrevoked site and flash it in bootloader after the ota. S-off allows for using unsigned zips.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rpearl:
The OTA will not patch unrevoked forever (unless they decide to break all legitimate testing devices on the market).

It will almost certainly patch unrevoked3
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
Second That Request

I second that email ... how do we re-root the OTA once we flash forever, ruu back, accept OTA, and flash the clockworkmod from the forever site. Anyone have the last step handy?

(Oh, and in response to that post, step # 2 will wipe your programs and settings, so your assumption as to having them in place is incorrect).
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rpearl:
No, it won't. Just flash the recovery image, you don't need to fully RUU.

You can reroot using this:

http://www.mediafire.com/?l3cdqos178zgv10

flash as an update from clockworkmod.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
OK

RPearl - Thanks (and thanks for the hard work). Am I understanding you that the OTA will push to a rooted phone so long as the recovery is stock? If so, do you have a link to the 'stock recovery' which would form step 2? Thanks
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hfam:
Thanks for the replies, gents!

Thank you so much for all your replies!! I absolutely understand the process now, and understand that the upcoming OTA from Verizon will probably prevent Unrevoked from doing it's magic, but that applying the clockwork mod will work if you have s-off.

Also thanks for the link to the SU, which I will apply in step 5!

The only thing I am missing now is a stock recovery file that I can use in Step 2. I understand that my assumption was correct, that if I don't do a full RUU, and just replace my clockworkmod with a stock recovery, then I will retain my programs and settings.

If anyone could provide a link to the stock recovery file for an Incredible I would be eternally grateful, and will happily "cliffdive" my previously posted steps once the OTA is pushed from Verizon and report back as a small token of my appreciation. :)

Thanks again for all the great info and hard work, you guys are amazing!!

hfam
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
Welp

I believe all signs point to as early as tonight or tomorrow night; but we are buzzing about them because the forever faq references them as a necessary step, but does NOT provide them (pointing to XDA for them). Hoping someone can provide ...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hfam:
Received from Verizon on 8/12

This is what I got from Verizon via email on 8/12, so it's got to be ready to push:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] shoman24v:
That's not for the Incredible?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hfam:
Considering that I have about a dozen Incredibles on the company account and no other Droid devices, it would be referring to the Incredible.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] seanmcd72:
I have the same email from Verizon at my work. Look at the second line:

:)

We have ZERO Incredibles, but one Moto Droid and a Moto X for testing Exchange.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ogre150:
Everything I've seen says that the Motorola Droid is getting the update not the incredible. Still haven't heard a word about the incredible yet.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
Droid

That is absolutely for the DROID.

The incredible rumor is now 8/18:

http://www.droid-life.com/2010/08/13/rumor-android-2-2-hitting-droid-incredible-august-18th/

But we have seen weekly update rumors.

That said, if anyone has the stock recovery, that is still needed. Thanks!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hfam:
Gah...the BASTARDS!!! WTF would they send that when all I have is Incredibles...grrrrrrrrrrrr... :confused: ;)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hfam:
Yes please!!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] elborak:
There is no "virdict" (sic), only rumors. What rumors you choose to believe or disbelieve are a matter of personal preference.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tchebb:
There's a stock recovery here.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] FredMan:
You guys rock. Just installed this took less then 5 min. Keep up the great work.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hfam:
Outstanding!! Thank you so much!!

And thanks to all of you for all your hard work, testing, replies, etc!

I believe I'm ready for that OTA 2.2, Verizon! Let's get this party started! :) ;)

ETA: Just "Forever'd" my Incredible. S-Off is confirmed! Super easy!!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] pickleman77:
Will this give me full r/w access to the root partition without having to use ADB Shell in clockwork recovery mode? I've been waiting for that for ages...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] elborak:
If only there were a web page that answered such questions...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ogre150:
Thanks adrynalyne this worked perfectly. I know I can use certain apps to do this but I like to learn the nuts and bolts too.

Thanks go to all who responded to my issue.:)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] pickleman77:
Thanks for the help, but I already read through the entire page and didn't find the answer. I'm only unclear on whether s-off has anything to do with that. You could have just as easily answered the question...

EDIT: Just did some exploring in the thread. Got the answers I was looking for. Root Explorer, here I come!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Heathsrow:
S-off and OTA from Verizon

Noob here...So if I understand this right if I want to accept the OTA from Verizon for 2.2 when they push it out and still have Root Access I need to complete the following:

1) Install unrevoked forever on your phone.

2) Flash the original recovery image to my phone prior to accepting the OTA.

3) Install the over-the-air update.

4) Install Clockworkmod on the root of my SD Card and boot into HBOOT to update the Clockworkmod Recovery.

5) Restore Superuser Access with an update.zip

My question is where can I get Superuser zip file (Tried downloading from rpearl's site, but it wouldn't download for me.) and the original recovery file? Also do I need to install the recovery file right now or just before accepting the OTA from Verizon.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for all the hardwork unrEVOked...rooting my incredible was a breeze....
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tchebb:
I have a post here explaining exactly what you just said, but with links to the appropriate files. Enjoy!

EDIT: If you want to get the OTA immediately, you should flash the stock recovery any time before it comes out. If you don't care and want to wait for a guaranteed rooted version of the OTA anyway, then just flash the stock recovery when you want to put on a new radio. There is nothing that requires you to do it immediately after using forever.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Heathsrow:
So basically, I can flash the stock recovery, then accept the OTA and then reflash the clockworkmod and superuser.zip? Sorry for all the questions...just trying to make sure I understand everything before I do it...I mainly want root for free wireless tethering and the ability to add custom roms as I get more familiar with Android and rooting...so I don't want to give up root but I want the 2.2. OTA also...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] wpbear:
This can be done without root after the the new OTA by modify the DUN AI see my sig for link. The wifi tether app is called something like 3G hotspot and is builtin to the new OTA.

You and everyone else.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] elborak:
The very first paragraph states:

Not sure how I could have answered it any better. :confused:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Ffej5647:
Don't get what you are saying but if you get the OTA you won't have root anymore. And i have a question for people well something i just want confirmed....the s-off and what not is what will void the warranty correct?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SLOflatlander:
with s-off you can get the ota and still have root ;) and yes it will void your warranty, as will most of the stuff in this section
[Droid Incredible Android Development] glendawg619:
ok, sorry for also being a uber noob, but will i still recieve the ota with my clockwork recovery? or will i need to flash the stock recovery to recieve it, also, if i needed flash the stock recovery image to get the ota, would i flash it through hboot? as long as i get 2.2 i wont need root anymore, plz help! :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
Look at the post directly above yours. If you have s-off, you're okay.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
S-ON?

Does anyone know if Team unrEVOked is working on S-ON? Having been thru a few Incredible's myself, I am sensitive to being unable to return to factory state.

I suspect the only safe way to proceed until S-ON is developed, is to wait for 2.2 and then wait some more to see if someone can cook 2.2 with root, which can be flashed while leaving S-ON. Otherwise, the dilemma is to have 2.2 which will never be rootable -OR- have a phone which can never be returned (even if Stock broke it). That's a toughie.

Anyone know (and YES, I know the FAQ says "In the future, we may create one" ... I am asking if they are worked on it or know how important it is to be able to undo for warranty).
[Droid Incredible Android Development] JustinD2473:
If you have a legitimate reason to return your phone and you return it to complete stock with the RUU, I very seriously doubt Verizon is going to boot y our phone into the bootloader to see if you've modded anything else so that they can charge you for the phone.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
<sigh>

Thank you, but as you know, that had nothing to do with my question; and while this is just a rumor, here's a fun link for you:

http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/android-news-rumors/3929-rumor-verizon-root-directive.html

ANYWAY ... anyone *KNOW* if unrEVOked is working on S-ON?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] the337:
i'm pretty sure that this has been asked multiple times throughout the thread and the only answer is in the wiki that states that they might work on it but right now there is no s-on.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] crackers8199:
ok, quick question...ran forever, much faster and easier than i expected. rebooted into the bootloader and verified s-off...

however, isn't one of the things this should allow us to do is update clockworkmod from rom manager? i was/am still on 2.0.1.3 (or something like that), and tried pressing "flash clockwork recovery" in rom manager to update to the newest one...and it didn't work. i rebooted into recovery and i'm still at the old version...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] s197:
I went into /system/app using root explorer to rename the flask.apk but it was unable to do so because it was read only. I thought s-off was supposed to change this? Had to do it via adb.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bhazard451:
Click the mount r/w button next time and it will work.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] s197:
Doh! Thanks for the quick reply!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
<sigh x 2>

I quoted the FAQ to avoid people quoting the FAQ in response ... didn't work. Someone PM me when its "if you don't know the answer, don't respond" day on XDA :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] the337:
Someone will PM you when they know the answer to a question that multiple people ask and the ONLY answer is in the wiki.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
...

YAY! You got ANOTHER post count increase!!!!!

Seriously - the faq says they may work on it. Team unrEVOked is on this thread. I was hoping someone WHO KNOWS would be able to say if this is something being worked on, or if this not something they are seriously thinking about.

Would still appreciate if someone WHO KNOWS would weigh in, since we have quite a few threads of people with phone problems they are hoping 2.2 solves, and if VZW is on the hunt, then a lot of people are going to have some fairly expensive problems.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tchebb:
We don't know yet if the OTA will remove root or not.

s-off won't automatically preserve root if the OTA removes it, it will just allow you to re-root much more easily after the OTA.

You cannot flash the new radio with Clockwork. You will have to follow the instructions here to get the OTA if you have a non-stock recovery.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] the337:
haha, you sound so angry. why are you so mad?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
:)

:)

10char
[Droid Incredible Android Development] IIDIncII:
Phone wont Hboot?

Why can't i boot into recovery?

I just installed unrevoked forever and after my phone booted up i turned it off to see if it was sucessful and when i tryed all my phone did was vibrate 4 times. Then for 5 seconds it would even turn on. Got to admit i was a little nervous thought my phone was brick lol.

So any ideas why im having trouble?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] UndergroundWire:
Did you use unrevoked3 first and then unrevoked forever? If not, read the instructions carefully.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] IIDIncII:
yes i did use unrevoked 3.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
From the FAQ:

Q: When I try to get into Fastboot by pressing VOLUME UP and booting the phone, my phone instead buzzes three times and acts dead. What happened?

A: The S-OFF update also enables Qualcomm Diagnostics mode on your phone, which is entered by doing what you just did. You can exit this mode (and boot normally) by removing the battery and USB cable.

Does this solve it?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] IIDIncII:
that solved the problem thank you.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hfam:
Heya tchebb,

I noticed that you updated the post you referred to above to include "busybox", so I went ahead and downloaded it from that link.

You indicate that to put clockwork back on, to copy busybox on the sdcard, then use the payload-update.zip to restore root.

Question: Is it just that easy? Do I now copy both the busybox file and the payload-update.zip to the root of the sdcard, then use clockworkmod to apply the payload-update to get root?

I did a quick search on my sdcard for "busybox" and came up empty handed, which is why I'm asking.

If there's something else about "busybox" that I need to know, or to do with this file except make sure it's in the root of the sdcard when applying payload-update.zip, could you please let me know?

Thanks again for all the hard work, I just want to be sure I really have this down pat and am ready to take OTA and restore the clockworkmod and root.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] silverxbv2:
Any word on this being reversible yet?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tchebb:
The update.zip installs su and Superuser.apk to the phone. It also copies busybox, which adds command-line tools, from the SD card into the proper location. That is all that is needed to root. You can remove busybox from the SD card after clockwork applies the update.zip.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ilinfinityil:
I've been having a weird problem since I used this tool. My screen and everything basically goes unresponsive or just simply goes crazy...like right now, i'm trying to get the CM6 rc3 zip onto my phone and I'm sitting in CWM and its acting like im holding the volume up/down buttons and its just continually scrolling throughout the menu, stopping periodically. But it does the same thing within the ROM as well, like there's a constant input on the trackball-like thing the incredible has, and it screws with a lot of my texts and just overall experience with the phone.

Any input?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] andybones:
if need to be sent back to VZW for refurb is there a way to reverse or do u need to brick it lol
[Droid Incredible Android Development] JaydenR:
Not reversible yet. If it is (when it becomes) you will see a new thread for it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
If Unreversible, Can We Fake the HBOOT Notice?

... which is why I have not applied this yet. I am on Inc # 3, and don't want to take any action which will prevent my return.

BUT ... is it possible for someone to design a new HBOOT that says S-ON even though its S-OFF?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] elborak:
As has been stated many times, VZW employees rarely (if ever) look that closely when a phone is returned for warranty. Why would they? If they refuse your return, they risk losing you as a customer, which is worth far more $ to them than a refurbished replacement phone.

This "I need S-ON" stuff seems like a lot of anguish and hair pulling over nothing.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ilinfinityil:
Also I thought with s-off that i mean, I could actively edit /system/ while in the ROM?