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[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] themogul:
I live in "moderate coverage" area(confirmed by 3 separate ATT reps). I got myself the Captivate the wife got the iphone4. In my house, the iphone gets 1 bar and in our home no bars. Obviously no way measure iphone signal in dBm's(good job apple. It is really a walled garden isn't it).

On captivate, i keep oscillating between -105 to -115dBm and from 4 asu to 1 asu. I really really love the captivate and I was looking forward to a decent Android GSM phone since I travel to Europe/Asia a lot. But the signal is really bugging me. A few times, I couldn't hear the other side properly(the iphone was much worse in such cases). I have till Thursday to decide whether I was to keep the phones or return it. I am very weary about committing another 2 years to death-star is this is going to be an issue.

Can people please advise if this is really a problem OR just ignore this and live with this. I really love android but need a GSM/World phone due to my travels.

Please put me out of my misery. I can't make up my mind :(
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] emuneee:
Buy an AT&T Microcell if they are offered in your area. That is probably the only thing you are going to he.able to do about the coverage situation.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phlunkie:
Complain enough about you're area coverage .it will either get you out of your contact, or a free microcell.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] themogul:
i complained a lot to 3 different supervisors and they wouldn't offer a free microcell. Would give $70 credit, but did not realize that if I buy the microcell, it add $20 monthly fee. I am not sure if the last supervisor was bullsh****** me, cause the store rep didn't mention the $20 monthly fee.

I was out of contract when I upgrades, so if I return I will go back to no-contract.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] larryccf:
i suspect it's reading falsely low or weak - i've got a vibrant and it generally reads the same, where my earlier MT3G would show -63 to -87

but mine doesn't drop calls and pulls 3G and sometimes even pulls down HSDPA

depending on traffic on the web, while showing -111 dBm, mine will test at speedtest.net showing as high as 5.4 Mbps download,

it generally shows 1.6 to 2.6 Mbps but again, all those test results were while showing -105 to -111, same as yours

the Mt3G, while it showed higher signal strength in same spot, never got above 1 Mbps download speed, which is why i'm thinking the signal strength is reading falsely low

if you're not dropping calls and pulling down at least 1 Mbps download speed, i wouldn't worry about it

but in case it helps
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kimocal:
I bought 2 at the same time (one for me and then one for the wife). Her's was having the same issue. We have a MicroCell and I get 5 bars and like -85 dBm while her's was showing one bar and -100. Bad antenna. Return it for a functioning one.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] davidusr:
I could be wrong, but, I was under the impression the $20 monthly fee is only if you use the microcell in conjunction with your home internet to get unlimited (doesn't go against your rollover minutes) calling from your cell number. Thats how you get the MC free, otherwise it's $150.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] themogul:
After trying another 2 reps, I actually found someone who actually figured that my 3g reception is really really weak and shipped me a microcell give me the credit of the full amount. Finally got lucky. Anxiously waiting for it to try out the signals. I will post my findings here. Need to buy a homeplug adapter so I can keep this by the window. I really hope those works out as I really like phone
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] themogul:
I got the microcell working after some intial hickups. Its been about a week that i have been using the microcell and its working good for me. I get four bars in most of my house which is so much better than no bars. The call quality is much better and all calls are very clear. The iphone and captivate both hold the calls much better now. I am glad this resolved my basic calls issue and i get to enjoy this excellent phone.

Thank you all fpr ur help.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dxtra:
What does the service has to do with the phone? I'm confuse. I'm getting the same signal strength I was getting with the iDon't in my home. I don't think it's the phone just the service.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MikalCarbine:
I noticed this problem the moment after buying mine. At the store once they powered mine up i walked to the floor model and my signal was 20dbm less than the other. Now in my apartment i get no signal what so ever when my BB would get some. Debating on exchanging mine for another after reading that broken antenna comment
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] baddress:
My first captivate had a bad antenna and got no signal at all, anywhere, even in front of a microcell at their store it got 0 bars. So return or exchange it. Some of them have bad antennas.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MikalCarbine:
Very good to know, I'll be exchanging mine on Monday
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alphadog00:
Does anyone have data on what good signal numbers i should see? Should I see positive DBm? If so, what? Positive 90? Or is Negative 50 OK?

I can't seem to find good reference material, but I don know when i leave my basement my signal goes from Negative 107 to Negative 95.

Thanks for any references or education.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MikalCarbine:
A higher but negative signal is stronger, with -50dbm being extremely strong, -90dbm usually supporting weak data, voice being acceptable to -95dbm and anything lower than that is considered an unusable signal for most mobiles
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sl8125:
What is the best signal strength you gotten.? I think mine is -91 it doesn't seem that good. How about you guys? Oh i am in Houston.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MikalCarbine:
I've personally have seen my phone hit -50dbm which I believe is the highest this receiver will read. However this is very sporadic and rare. On average it is in the 90s which is unacceptable. Even beside my girlfriends BB my signal is always 30dbm lower than hers. Keep in mind dbm is a logarithmically scaled unit so 30dbm means my signal is roughly 10 TIMES lower than hers. 3dbm is twice the power
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xan:
When do you measure your signal levels?

I got same weak signal during cell standby (no phone call, no data traffic).

However!

After initiating data transfer/call signal increases significantly. I'm getting -60-80dbm.

This means radio is saving battery juice when not extensively used, which should be considered positive.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MikalCarbine:
I've noticed this too, at idle if I have one "bar" and I initiate a phone call the bars will increase to 2-3. However, there are times where I am on the fringe of no signal whatsoever to even initiate a call or to use data because the signal received is so low. Also, when my captivate reports 2-4 bars its usually still at -90dbm. I just did a test by calling someone and watching my bars, although the bars went up, while the conversation was still engaged I was only getting below -90dbm. I'm about to head to the store to check out a replacement
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MikalCarbine:
Just traded phones, this one seems to have the same issues... I'm curious if the build date has anything to do with this. My first Captivate was on 7/27/10, this was printed on the battery at least. The AT&T rep gave me just a new phone while using my same battery, how can I check the build date of the phone with the serial number? I've seen mention of this somewhere on these forums about a link at Samsung that will tell me

Edit: Figured it out, it's under the Samsung product registration, when you enter your IMEI it tells you the manufacturer date. This one is also 7/27/10... I wonder if it's a common problem with older phones. Can you guys having this problem verify your manufacturing date?
[G1 Android Development] jdubzisfaded:
Found this over at kings site.. he did it!!

Download

Version 1.0

- Full wipe update

- THIS ROM IS FAST

- Widgets should all be there on first boot, give it plenty of time

- Download-able widgets supported!

- Fixed Camera

- Fixed auto rotate

- Fixed network location

- Fixed youtube!

- Youtube HQ works!

- Fixed sound for g1

- Fixed sound for 32b (Ringtones are iffy atm)

- Updated a2sd script

- Aligning on each boot

- Clean boot up

- Updated user.conf

- No loading screens at all testers are saying!

- Added tools to bin

- Added rwsystem

- Added rosystem

- Rooted with su

- Updated HTCsetup Wizard Locale selection

- More things I will add
[G1 Android Development] jdubzisfaded:
Possible changelog
[G1 Android Development] infinitybiff:
why don't you add features, working/not working to the post... some ppl won't go to king's site to get it.
[G1 Android Development] art010606:
cant wait to hear about this. and i dont know why people wont. at this stage in the game, we dont really have many porters out there besides reg. vanilla roms. king is the only active one who is doing ports of anything besides stock 1.6/2.1/2.2.
[G1 Android Development] kingklick:
I will offer support

A handful of things don't work but I'm already working on it :)
[G1 Android Development] asb123:
unbanned? welcome back
[G1 Android Development] kingklick:
Yup.

Thank you. I've been working on fixes since release.

Update will be nice :)
[G1 Android Development] asb123:
are you going to open up your own rom threads here?
[G1 Android Development] kingklick:
I am not allowed to.

I have permission to offer support only
[G1 Android Development] kingklick:
update coming today or tomorrow
[G1 Android Development] chris279m:
What did you get banned for? If you don't mind me asking.
[G1 Android Development] Original Android <3ers!:
Mother fricker you made a second account xD
[G1 Android Development] chris279m:
Who made another account...?
[G1 Android Development] ripgut:
Sooo looking forward to this, thanks bro
[G1 Android Development] kingklick:
update version 1.0 is live! same link thats in op.

MANY MANY FIXES and performance boosts!

enjoy!
[G1 Android Development] jdubzisfaded:
updated OP :)
[G1 Android Development] kingklick:
Thank you!
[G1 Android Development] gremsems:
unfortunately still no HTC widgets for me...
[G1 Android Development] digital.ser:
Just go menu/setings/aplication/htc sense and clear data, after push home then phone reloading home app/widget and your clock is on screen ...
[G1 Android Development] gremsems:
after 9 unsuccesful tries, I'll wait for another update
[G1 Android Development] kingklick:
should be fine... you need to reboot and try what the poster above you said
[G1 Android Development] flyers00:
I am also experiencing teh same on my G1, do you think wiping system through fastboot might help? Other than the widget issue, the rom is working well.
[G1 Android Development] Bzerk1:
They weren't kidding when they said it's fast! few small issues for myself from keeping it ATM though. although definitly looking forward to more of this roms progress.

-I also have the widget issue, once i got my clock widget, friend stream, and bookmark widget up, and then later it just disappeared on it's own.

-Browser sends you back home if there is flash content on pages.

-Can't Change Wallpaper, home and lockscreen both.

-Ringtone for phone call wont come on, *Notification is fine, but low volume.

-Camera is a bit buggy too, sometimes it doesnt save the picture and im brought to the home screen.

-No market App

- GPS does not seem to be working in ATT Maps (unsure)
[G1 Android Development] kingklick:
I will work on these bugs :)
[G1 Android Development] jp2dj1:
Fast... no. Super fast... hell Yes! But butterfly buggy... 1) where is the unknown sources check box?? I feel like I'm with at&t but without the sucky reception 2) no sound when calling or when someone calls me. Plus even in music. I thought for a moment I was deaf. 3) HTC Widgets is a no go! But hey, its fast for a version 1! Good job king...

sent from my CM7 IN-STEREO ((WHERE AVAILABLE))
[G1 Android Development] jfbuck:
Anybody having market problems? Everything is working really well for me, except my market. As soon as a download is complete I get a force close? And advice? Know issue?
[G1 Android Development] yerand:
does this require death spl? or will it work with danger?
[G1 Android Development] kingklick:
death is required

Also, I have just located the fix for market =)

will implement into my next release
[G1 Android Development] jfbuck:
Good show king! Great rom as well, kinda retired the g1 till I saw this rom. Keep em coming.
[G1 Android Development] asb123:
by getting this, once thought to be damned ROM going, you have shown the entire community what you are capable of.

Please continue and make this the fastest running 2.1 sense rom on the htc dream.
[G1 Android Development] Poweruser75:
I get the same thing when it comes to my ring tones. It wont even make a sound even if i try and turn up the volume. then turning up the volume by the left key buttons turns up and down the "media Volume" not the ring tone volume. Im glad someone else noticed this haha
[G1 Android Development] BookCase:
Can I just say, KiNgxKxlick Rocks!!

Just sayin.
[G1 Android Development] mjb337:
Browser crashes on start-up just as it did on the first release so i give this 31/2 stars but im a big fan of the Kings so no disrespect
[G1 Android Development] 20015jjw:
best sense that ive ever seen
[G1 Android Development] nickislauw:
king are you still supporting this rom :D:D ?

i found some problems:

-market FC when you downloaded something :( market is important for me so please can you fix it.

-i really like the htc standard widget like clock etc. they wont show up so please can you get them make show into the widget list :D:D?

-i think sound isnt working. (not really good tested)

-and where is the option to check unknown sources ?????

THIS ROM IS AWESOME SO PLEASE CAN YOU FIX THE PROBLEMS ????

THANKSSSSSSSSSS

//Nick

EDIT: fixed the market problem my own :D
[Vibrant General] 30Glock:
Solved mod plz delete
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fone_fanatic:
So all last saturday i was wondering why everytime i pulled my phone out of my pocket it was powered off. I found out that if i slid the keyboard in or out fast, the device would just power off. After further investigation even if i bump the device on the bottom it would also turn off.

I thought it was a weird glitch with some app i've installed but did a task29, reflashed the rom and it still did it.

I reflashed the ship rom as well as stock spl and went to an Att device support center, the guy looked over it and told me they don't have any tilt2s at the support center but would mail one out to me. So getting a refurbished device under warranty but has anyone experienced this?

I think its the ribbon cable probably came loose on the main board. But since its under warranty, easier to just swap it out then open it up and investigate.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ugoff:
A friend of mine had a Tilt 2 doing that, only it would simply reboot instead of shutting off. He sent it in for warranty replacement because of that and another problem.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Lennyz1988:
Did you try putting a piece of paper between the backcover and the batterie? I had to do this with some old phones of mine were the batterie had a little bit space.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fone_fanatic:
i remember doing that with i think the wizard which yes i did try and still same issue :/

oh well, its time for a new device anyway... i think i'm gonna get the dell streak, been meaning to jump over to android for a while now because nothing really excites me about WM7. Hopefully after 6 months after its launch it will be nicely updated and not so "locked down".

But for the ribbon cable that connects the top half and bottom half of the board, it has caused me issues before on previous devices. First on the wizard (Cingular 8125 but i bought it overseas as the i-mate k-jam). The cable got severed and killed the earpiece so i couldn't hear people during calls, but speaker phone worked. Had to buy a damaged one off ebay and swap the ribbon cable.

Then for the hermes (i had the i-mate jasjam but in the US it was sold as the ATT 8525) again had issues with the ribbon cable that the screen would just loose power.

Then again i've had the Raphael (att fuze) with no issues and the kaiser ( att tilt) with no problems as well, and i've had them for much longer than the tilt2. Oh well, luck of the draw i guess.

Its gonna be hard leaving HTC but no good att 3g gsm android devices out, i know there is the captivate but i want the front cam cuz my gf has the evo and we could probably video chat via Qik ;)
[Droid 2 General] AnonDroid:
How long do you think it will take until a Motorola Milestone 2 releases?

I'm pretty envious of you Americans getting this phone. It won't work on any network here in Canada.
[Droid 2 General] hiepgia:
i think in september
[Droid 2 General] skulk3r:
I have been waiting for a Milestone replacement for aaages! Would love to see the GSM version of the Droid 2.

...boo CDMA and EVDO....3.5G ftw! :p
[Droid 2 General] freelycat:
I'm wait that too.....:(

GSM version Milestone 2......

rush 2 me plz..............:rolleyes:
[Droid 2 General] primarilydna:
There is not going to be a milestone 2 but there is going to be a droid pro.

EDIT- Never mind the milestone 2 has been leaked.......http://erictric.com/2010/08/31/offi...ne-2-promotional-video-accidentally-released/
[Droid 2 General] Kukussi:
Motoblur???

I freaking hope that the rumor that I saw today is wrong about the milestone 2 having motoblur! I'm waiting for this phone to come out to replace my hero but I will not buy it if it as motoblur on it!
[Droid 2 General] Leimi:
I don't think it's a rumor, it is in the official press release :/

But hey, is motoblur that bad ? I don't really know what it changes except the Home (that we can change with ease).
[Droid 2 General] ChongoDroid:
Please tell me it'll be able to flash roms! If so il consider retiring the n1... I can't believe theirs already so many new phones! Android ftw!
[Droid 2 General] 640k:
there's alot of account integration that i'm not pleased with. i thought android handled that on its own just fine. i don't like this hand-holding that motorola developed. i feel like they've added steps to the same process that already existed.
[Droid 2 General] jerseyh22accord:
well moto took certain options out i guess to make it easier for the retards who buy smartphones and don't have any idea how to use them and also they apparently assume that everyone who owns a smartphone is a social networking freak.

If I ran moto Id release certain phones with Vanilla Android and others with Blur. So that way certain phones can be marketed to the 12 year olds all over myspace and facebook all day long, and others towards more grown up people who dont let other peoples status's run their lives.
[Droid 2 General] 640k:
Phones should be more like PCs. The vanilla OS should only exist in ROM, while all of the extras exist in RAM. A recovery file could exist in ROM that would format and overwrite RAM (read: NOT SD) so that the device could be brought back to stock with a factory restore. That way, we can choose to uninstall the garbage we don't want and regular consumers still retain store-bought functionality.
[Droid 2 General] ChongoDroid:
True and I agree on the vanilla + blur sales combo... But some ppl advertise on fb, ms, or twitter (club promoters, music industry, anything else self published, etc). some ppl use it as work... some ppl have lots of friends and are interested in what their doing... motorola has to market for everyone. But I guess that's why you don't run motorola ;)
[Droid 2 General] 640k:
i'm not reading what you're getting at. It's all about the underlying OS. When you purchase a PC from manufacturers like Dell and HP, you get bloat-ware OSes that have had advertisers comission space in, in order to keep PC pricing down. I'm sure the same is happening with phones. Everyone has a little share in the market, and they don't want to let that go. Each manufacturer is trying to identify themselves from the rest of the crowd.

If every Android phone was exactly the same, except for the hardware specs, how would the average consumer decide on which phone to buy? Word of mouth? That only goes so far, so you're stuck with some sort of solution.

HTC uses Sense...

Moto uses Blur...

It's all used to differentiate themselves from the crowd. I say, let them do it, but find a better way of doing so. Memory is so cheap these days, why can't they just build the phones so that advanced technophiles can separate out the junk, while Joe Schmoe just runs the device as is.

If time and money to script the logic is a driving factor, maybe manufacturers need to re-assess their market.
[Vibrant General] junkdruggler:
so I went into CW recovery... format system, data, cache, so I could flash the deodexed rom... during the wipe cache it froze up.. oh, no... its ok tho lets try again<---that was Bruce Toby... but CW wouldnt come up anymore now.. It just loops back to the original recovery, and boot loops if I try to boot up...

On to ODIN... everything is going fine... I get a FAIL! oh, no... thats ok tho its ODIN it always fixes it... Yeah tried again like 3 times just got FAIL, FAIL, FAIL... Figured I would come back to it after a smoke break , AND NOW IT DONT WORK AT ALL....

I get nothing, no recovery, no download, not nothin... talked to tmo and got a replacement... so I cordially apologize to those that said ODIN could brick and I didnt believe... I am now a believer...
[Vibrant General] Damitu:
Sorry Man! That sucks....At least you got a replacement.

A fresh body....I mean phone to work on....

WOOOO HAAAA HAAAA HAAAA!
[Vibrant General] silverwolf0:
Can I has your brick for a paperweight on my desk? And how do you get a replacement from T-mobile for a phone you bricked yourself?
[Vibrant General] psychoace:
You can most likely fix it with some odin work. The phone is pretty difficult to brick with software mishaps
[Vibrant General] tengtengvn:
ODIN is useless if you can't get the phone to boot to download mode.
[Vibrant General] mesajoejoe:
From my understanding the only way to hardbrick this phone is, while in download mode and have blue status bar, odin somehow fails, you lose usb connectivity, or you unplug it or remove battery. If it screws up midway through your phone is useless. Luckily you have 30 days from purchase for exchanges
[Vibrant General] junkdruggler:
paperweight mode doesnt even work on this thing... its so light the wind blows it off the table almost...

I told tmo what I was doing (a factory reset to see if my gps would work better) my phone hiccupped and it dont work no more... they asked me to try to boot into recovery mode and after a few laughs and a couple broken phone stories a new one is on the way...

but yeah, odin doesnt fix everything.. a week ago if someone said odin bricked their phone, I woulda said they were doing something wrong, but that was my third time at odin and it messed up...

edit: so I just tried to boot into download mode and it came on.... tried again and it wont do anything again...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] midd:
My phone won't fastboot nymore. I have a moto cliq and it is rooted.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jsimon9633:
Anyone using juice defender can you share your settings please

Thanks in advance!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vandam500:
Here are mine:
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jsimon9633:
Thanks!

anyone else care to share theirs?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kris54241:
****...mobile upload sucks...anyway...basically same...just schedule is 5m every 2 hours ...>10kbps every 15 sec
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] formulabird:
and what kind of times are you seeing with these settings???