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[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] eenbox:
I have Stock Tmobile US HD2 with Stock radio (2.08) and I have noticed these settings actually drained my battery lot faster than what I had previously...

I have had about 4-5% / hr drain before these settings... after the settings were changed, drain was 12-13% / hr ...

Note: This very likely depends on what ROM you have and what Radio u use... I guess I am holding off on changing these for a while until I see if Android build comes out for nand (device memory) ...

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To update on battery status:

- This morning at 7:30AM phone had 100%

- 5 hours later, at 12:30PM phone had 51%

- at 5:30PM phone had about 30% (!?!)

- At 6:00PM I was on 28% when I received couple of longer calls (10 mins each) and percentage went down only 1% (WHAT?!?!?!)

- plugged it back on charger at 6:30PM ...

This shows me that battery is lasting longer, but all of us seem to believe percentages more - so, until someone irons this one out, I am using Android OS full time and charge it at night, use it during the day - and keep my chargers on me at all times :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] slbenz:
Well, I just tried the changes and went from an average of over 74mA in standby to now 7-8mA!:D This using an Amelia X9.1 ROM, 2.12.50.02 radio and Froyostone. Thanks for starting this thread. Made it a lot easier for me to determine a way to deal with this high battery drain using Android OS. Will keep you posted with the progress as time goes on.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ituan:
I just did the tweaks to the registry. I will note that about 3 or 4 of the modified values were already 0. The remaining values I changed them to 0. I'm having really high hopes for this. I will do a full charge while running android tonight and report back tomorrow with my findings.

I normally see a decrease of ~10%/hr so going to only ~1% is phenominal! Wish me luck :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] eli2190:
some please help when i open Resco Registry i only see

HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT

HKEY_CURRENT_USER

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE

HKEY_USERS

My question is how can i find HKLM/...................... registrys posted? someone please help me
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] guardiola28:
HKLM=HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE

Regards
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] raysacr:
Wow, just wasted all this time downloading and installing the necessary CABs, only to find out all of the tweaks mentioned was already set to zero on mine. :(
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] JDM Civic EG8:
Might be a dumb question but does this Registry tweak help improve battery for both Windows and Android rom?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jcsy:
should I use BSB 1.6 power setting on

AND install Enable power mangament.cab (2.5 KB, 292 views)?

or just 1 of them would do?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Rabia:
great work, i can confirm a 40% better battery life, :) finally i love this Android
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Vampir1c:
I've searched in this thread, and it may be a dumb question, but would these tweaks also improve WinMo battery life? Thanks
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] namz0rs:
The tweaks have worked me for guys (used CAB provided - thanks!!), also running SetCPU on Interactive. :D.

Battery drain is now about 2.5times slower then it was (on idle)... :-)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Yank555:
I am facing the exact same battery drain (~60mA at idle, screen off).

I tried to boot without SD card, insert it and boot Android asap, helped to get an only ~6mA drain, but that only lasted for 1/2 hour :-( From that same thread I also switched to a slower microSD card (Transcend 32Gb class 4 instead of Kingston 16Gb class 10), which made no noticable difference...

So I went on searching and stumbled onto this thread which sounds really promising !! Since battery drain is what is keeping me from using Android by default., I'm eager to give this a go ;)

On a sidenote, I found JuiceDefender to be quite a help, since it enables to control how often Data/WiFi is switched on/off, so you don't drain your battery when you're not actively using the phone. Works great on my TF101 as well. And on a rooted system it also can controll the CPU, like setCPU.

I will keep you posted with my findings...

JP.

UPDATE :

Proceeded to the changes in WinMo manually (RegEdit), powered off and on again, but unfortunately no change in drain, stuck with 60mA at idle :-( Will look into it further.

UPDATE 2 :

Have installed a battery monitoring tool on my TF101 as well, and it reports 30mA in idle, which is half of what my HD2 is eating up ?!

I read something about a problem with the OS trying to put devices to sleep, and those not reacting to it, thus the OS keeps trying, and this drains battery since the CPU is kept busy by this.
[EVO 4G General] itmustbejj:
http://consumerist.com/2010/08/sprint-hikes-prices-by-dumping-discounts.html

If Sprint changes the terms of service on your existing contract, you have the right to end it with no ETF and keep your phone.

Not saying I want to get out of my contract, but last time Sprint changed their TOS, tons of ppl haggled their way into getting $20 off per month for 24 months in order to NOT break their contract.

You have 30 days from when the charge first appears on your bill. So if your BILLING date is Aug 23, you have until Sept. 22 to assert your right to cancel.

Update:

From Sprint's contract, you can only cancel the affected lines

Our Right To Change The Agreement & Your Related Rights

We may change any part of the Agreement at any time, including, but not limited to, rates, charges, how we calculate charges, or your terms of Service. We will provide you notice of material changes, and may provide you notice of non-material changes, in a manner consistent with this Agreement (see "Providing Notice To Each Other Under The Agreement" section). If a change we make to the Agreement is material and has a material adverse effect on Services under your Term Commitment, you may terminate each line of Service materially affected without incurring an Early Termination Fee only if you: (a) call us within 30 days after the effective date of the change; and (b) specifically advise us that you wish to cancel Services because of a material change to the Agreement that we have made. If you do not cancel Service within 30 days of the change, an Early Termination Fee will apply if you terminate Services before the end of any applicable Term Commitment.

Update 2: Several people have reported getting credited back what is being "un-discounted" from their bill.
[EVO 4G General] Sporkman:
i have 4 phones and with my discount ( 27% ) i pay 180ish a month for unlimited everything not sure ill be happy if my discount drops off the other 2 lines might have to raise a stink about this
[EVO 4G General] itmustbejj:
Ahhh so you are a citi group "employee"
[EVO 4G General] jerryparid:
Do I have to terminate my plan if I want to get out of my contract? Or can I get out of my contract and go month to month?
[EVO 4G General] engagedtosmile:
How much time has to pass before you can sign up with them again?
[EVO 4G General] davebu:
you have to wait atleast 3 to 6 months.. should i stay or should i go now? i can get the same phone on clear in another month, can just go to boost for a month or two until its out... but i did pay $500 for this thing...
[EVO 4G General] Sporkman:
no im not, mines legit lol i have this discount for about 10 years
[EVO 4G General] jblazea50:
That sucks. I signed up with 4 lines in June 2010 with 25% discount. My bill is now $170, so with this new policy, it'll be $180. That's more than what I was paying for AT&T with 4 lines. Might have to talk to Sprint and figure out if something can be done as one of the main reasons for moving to Sprint was due to it's price and now it's really not much of a difference.
[EVO 4G General] Zabalba:
If they change the TOS, can I cancel the contract and just pay them monthly as if my contract expired?
[EVO 4G General] fastamx79:
No. You are canceling the contract and your service goes with it.
[EVO 4G General] davebu:
if this affects you (2 or more lines) you can always setup a new account with another person on your account as the primary account holder, or just use boost after cancelling and sign up with clear after they sign up.
[EVO 4G General] Chrisjby:
Before everyone gets their panties in a bunch, this change is only going to affect people with an old "add a line" plans. I found another post about this subject in another forum, and sprint isn't changing anything for the newer "unlimited" plans. Chances are, if you're using a smart phone, you aren't using the old plans where you had options to add data, add text, add internet, etc. And really, I would think that if you have an old plan where you only get limited minutes and you're buying a text plan, buying data, buying picture mail, and anything else .. you're probably paying too much and you should have changed your plan a long time ago.

Or so I hope what I found is correct, we have a family plan with 5 lines. Lol
[EVO 4G General] Hrshycro:
We just signed up 3 lines with the 1500 min. /mo any mobile any time plan - all 3 evos. I have a 23% student discount and that's the reason I went with sprint. It works out to $52 bucks a month x3 phones, but if that's ending, then will cancel sprint and just go with the iphone 4 on att, keep the evos and sell them.

I'm actually kind of pissed about this, but if I can have a iphone 4 for the same price sprint will go up to, then I might as well have that.
[EVO 4G General] datajosh:
FYI - depsite what the post on Consumerist says, I've been hearing elsewhere that Sprint does not consider this a "materially adverse change" and won't waive your ETF because of it. I don't care either way personally because it's still cheaper than any comprable family plan on Verizon or AT&T.
[EVO 4G General] Hrshycro:
I'm chatting with a rep right now about this new ToS change.

The discount will only apply to the first 2 lines of any family plan after the said date!

Call this number if you want to find out for sure if you can get out ETF free and keep your phones: 1888-211-4727
[EVO 4G General] jblazea50:
I'm pissed as well. I paid like $350 in ETFs and got rid of my ATT phones because with the discounts, I knew I would be paying less with Sprint. I also paid about $700 for the 4 Sprint phones (2 Evo and 2 blackberry).

I chatted with a Sprint rep and he said they will no longer offer discounts to lines 3-5 on services less than $29.99.

I'd switch back to ATT if I can get out without paying the ETF with Sprint.
[EVO 4G General] SilverZero:
So does that mean my $29.99 Evo family line is still discounted?
[EVO 4G General] Sporkman:
i hope you are right my phone plan rocks ! and would hate to loose it
[EVO 4G General] Hrshycro:
I chatted with a rep an hour ago and got this:

The discount will only apply to the first 2 lines of any family plan after the said date!

Call this number if you want to find out for sure if you can get out ETF free and keep your phones: 1888-211-4727

Orrrr, we could always just call this number instead and actually get some where. ;)

http://consumerist.com/2007/05/spri...eader-executive-customer-service-hotline.html
[EVO 4G General] itmustbejj:
"materially adverse" means "affecting your money". All the carriers do this, they posture and try to downplay the change to the TOS for 30 days after it goes into effect because by that time it's too late to get out of your contract.

The fact remains, you signed a contract with determined terms. If they change that contract before it expires YOU ARE NO LONGER BOUND TO IT. Don't let them BS you, know they are bound to the contract just as much as you are. Stand up for yourself if you are unhappy about this.
[EVO 4G General] Hrshycro:
I'm thinking about canceling, then just signing up for the same plan with the same phones under a different family member's name, then selling the current evos, which will make up for the loss discounts over the next 2 years. ;) An iPhone 4 would be 35 bucks more a month, so I'll stay with the evo.
[EVO 4G General] 063_XOBX:
Could anyone elaborate on exactly what it is that they are changing?
[EVO 4G General] Hrshycro:
Do you have a monthly employee discount on your sprint bill? 5 to 27%ish? If you have more than 2 lines on any family plan, you'll no longer get the % discount on lines 3 - 5, thus you can get out of your contact. ;)
[EVO 4G General] 063_XOBX:
By "employee discoun"t is it just the Sprint employee discount or the discount that is offered through the company you work for because I work for CSX railroad and they offer 15% off my family plan and I've had it for almost 10 years
[EVO 4G General] Hrshycro:
Yeah, any discount - like the one you have. I have a 23% off discount and I'm pissed that I'm going to loose it on the 3rd line, even if it is only a few bucks, I just got it and I don't want to loose it. :(
[EVO 4G General] SilverZero:
Somebody pushed and got their un-discount credited back to their account.

http://syndicated.livejournal.com/consumerist/7796295.html

And I agree with previous posts: If this changes how much you pay for service for which you previously signed a contract, it's materially adverse. Even $4/month is enough for some people to raise a stink. If you're getting a discount, chances are it had some impact on your decision to sign the contract in the first place.

I suggest everybody who is affected by this start calling Sprint and giving them hell until they grandfather existing users in. We're getting a little too comfy with letting corporations do whatever they want with no regard for actual laws.
[EVO 4G General] samrozzi:
you know in the contract that you sign, its clearly states that sprint has the right to change its plans, discounts and all filings associated with it for the next 2 years?

so they can change anything they want and that doesnt mean you can cancel for free.

Just because they change something, they have all rights to. not many people do. but on the contract you sign it says you agree to sprints rights and they have control of the contract, guidelines and its susceptible to change.
[EVO 4G General] SilverZero:
So you're suggesting they could raise your monthly rate to $999.99 per line and there would be no legal recourse?
[EVO 4G General] sprink0281:
How many actually "signed" anything? People that ordered by calling sprint or online did you really sign a piece of paper with these terms? I realize that people that bought from store may have signed something.....
[EVO 4G General] samrozzi:
well of course they cant raise it to 1000$ but their are limits, but they can change the things such as discounts, financing for credit limited customers, discounts, (just like they just recently changed premier benefits) but that doesnt mean you can change it.

I work for sprint, and we get alot of customers that try to get out of the contract, get a "special deal" or something out of the company and they dont realize exactly what the contract means and entitles. all you have to do is go into a sprint store (corporate usually) and ask for a printout of your contract and it will say all of that exactly (of course worded alot better)
[EVO 4G General] samrozzi:
and also you still are saving alot more money with sprint than many other carriers, but they are also raising the percentage discount for many companies at the same time.many businesses sprint is partners with which are maybe 5-10%are now going to10-18%
[EVO 4G General] teddyh2o:
Hummmm... i guess it's a good chance to switch to Verizon since my GF is on verizon.. is it pain in the ass to cancel the contract with their term changes?
[EVO 4G General] rdcrds:
I am waiting to see it on my bill.I paid my last bill yesterday and my new bill generates the 17th of this month so it will not be on there but ill most likely have the note about the change.

When this comes about i will call them up.I have 10 lines a 7 line plan that has 5 lines with 2.50 discount per line. that is 12.50$

then i have a 3 line ED1500 which the lady sold me the 3rd line telling me it will only be 14.95 cause of my discount.All in all i got these cause of the discounts.

the total is 17.50 per month.I put up with there 20 cent per line crapola back the first of the year i will not put up with this.

I will do as always over the past 11 years with them.I will call and after about 15 minutes of going off on them they will either discount me someway or just leave it but i am not paying 17.50$ per month more after i jus last month signed up for 2 more years with the price i am at now.

And trust me over 11 years with sprint you learn how and who to talk to.If it makes your plan go up call account services and if you get someone who is a non help just at the end of the call tell them they did not answer your needs and they will switch you to a account services manager as they do not want that bad rating from the call you get.

When you get a account services manager they are pretty good tell them either they fix it or your gone and i bet 90% will fix it 1 way or the other.

If you get a bad 1 hang up and call back.

But some of you may take it but 17.50 is not going to happen to me.

good luck to all.
[EVO 4G General] vikramjatt11:
i have a total of 4 lines... the first 3 lines have the plan "free & clear", and the 4th line has the everything data 450 plan... with a 25% discount applied, i pay about $178 (including tax) every month... so how would this change affect me?? if im understanding this correct, i would no longer get 25% off my 3rd and fourth line??? which means on my 3rd line, i have to pay $20 month instead of $15... n on my fourth line (the evo), i have to pay $79.99 per month instead of $62.5???
[EVO 4G General] bobdude5:
now do you want to fight the 10 dollar surcharge? lol

great. now my bills going to shoot up 50 bucks a month.
[EVO 4G General] bobdude5:
im going to email sprint and tell them i have over 500,000 loyal followers on twitter and that if they go on with this change, im going to tell all of my followers not to join sprint or to cancel their contracts.
[EVO 4G General] 063_XOBX:
I don't want to fight the surcharge I consented to that, this is another story
[EVO 4G General] itmustbejj:
You knew about the $10 "cool phone" fee when you signed your contract. Them changing their terms to an existing contract is way different. This doesn't effect me cuz I only have 2 lines, but I wanted to get the word out cuz carriers try to sweep this under the rug.

You have 30 days from when the charge first appears on your bill. So if your BILLING date is Aug 23, you have until Sept. 22 to assert your right to cancel.

Update:

From Sprint's contract, you can only cancel the affected lines

Our Right To Change The Agreement & Your Related Rights

We may change any part of the Agreement at any time, including, but not limited to, rates, charges, how we calculate charges, or your terms of Service. We will provide you notice of material changes, and may provide you notice of non-material changes, in a manner consistent with this Agreement (see "Providing Notice To Each Other Under The Agreement" section). If a change we make to the Agreement is material and has a material adverse effect on Services under your Term Commitment, you may terminate each line of Service materially affected without incurring an Early Termination Fee only if you: (a) call us within 30 days after the effective date of the change; and (b) specifically advise us that you wish to cancel Services because of a material change to the Agreement that we have made. If you do not cancel Service within 30 days of the change, an Early Termination Fee will apply if you terminate Services before the end of any applicable Term Commitment.
[EVO 4G General] Jye75:
I'm curious, I haven't looked at a service contract from Sprint in a long time, been with them for over 14 years.

But does anyones actual contract, signed, or electronically agreed to, actually state that the 2 year contract includes any applicable discounts on service?

My point is that discounts don't necessarily apply to everyone, only those who are eligible, which to me, means it's something special outside of the actual service contract.

You know, you sign up with Sprint, agree to a contract in order to get the phone for a lower price, then, add on the discounts afterward. I only say this because you can call them at any time and add a discount if you are eligible. Which is separate from the contract you agreed to. By Sprint removing discounts, it's not breaching the contract, just making you pay the original amount you agreed to pay in the contract, which is the same as someone who was not eligible for the discounts to begin with. Anyone follow?
[EVO 4G General] ritzbrie:
I just spoke to a Sprint rep. Here is the deal:

If you have an older plan with an add-ons like text messaging, internet, etc, then you will not get the discount on the added features if they are under $29.99.

BUT if you have a newer "everything" plan you should have nothing to worry about and you will still receive discounts on your added lines.
[EVO 4G General] jblazea50:
I hope you're right. When I talked to them yesterday, the rep only said that there will be no discount on services under $29.99 and that includes lines 3-5 on any Family Shared plans.

I guess I'll have to wait for the next bill with the changes.

Btw, since the new terms goes into effect starting August 27th, does that mean there will be a prorated charge since billing cycle starts around the 12th or 13th each month? Sprint should have just started this at the beginning of the billing cycle and not in the middle.
[EVO 4G General] trhonda2000:
Ok so let me get this straight. If I have the Family Everything 1500 plan with 2 lines, if I add a 3rd line I'm going to lose my discount? I'm confused, does this only apply to people that have multiple lines that have multiple plans?
[EVO 4G General] jblazea50:
If you add a 3rd line to your family plan, it'll be $20/month. You won't be getting the discount on the 3rd line since it is a service less than $29.99. You'll still have the discount on lines 1 and 2.

I believe that's the new policy. If I'm wrong, someone will correct me.
[EVO 4G General] SilverZero:
So if we have 5 lines total on a 1500 Everything plan, including on Evo on line 4, and a discount from an employer, are the extra lines still discounted? The Evo line is $29.99, the rest are $19.99 BEFORE discount.
[EVO 4G General] jblazea50:
SilverZero, I'm not sure about that. From what the rep told me is that anything below $29.99 on lines 3-5 will not be discounted anymore.

The Evo line that's $29.99 won't be discounted as the total is $29.99, but they are two separate charges ($10 premium and $19.99 for the line itself).

You can find out by chatting with a rep on sprint.
[EVO 4G General] Shadow591:
I talked to sprint today and they said it was for add ons like the mobile hotspot.:mad:

I'll call again later
[EVO 4G General] Bp3dots:
I find it rather funny how many people say they will be heading to ATT/VZW over this change, which will be less than $10/month in most cases, and be stuck with a way higher plan price for similar services.

I also believe that since those discounts aren't exclicitly covered in the contract, this wont be a "get out of ETF free" card.
[EVO 4G General] Shadow591:
I just don't want to pay for stuff
[EVO 4G General] ritzbrie:
The rep informed me that my the discount on additional lines would apply. An additional line is $20 minus the discount I have.

The only thing the discount will not apply to is the "a la cart" services. Meaning, if you added internet, text messaging, or some else on top of your standard plan, then it will not have the discount.

Additional services

do not

get the discount.

Additional lines

do

get the discount.
[EVO 4G General] jblazea50:
Ritzbrie, thanks for clarifying that. I guess the rep I talked to wasn't sure or didn't answer me correctly.

I guess we'll all have to just wait and see what happens.