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[Droid Incredible Android Development] silverxbv2:
Me too. Blown speakers in both. Hopefully it comes out before the official froyo. I can't wait til 2015.:D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bluetooth_decay:
Indeed...neither this nor the message it replied to constituted an intelligent technical discussion of the issue. I read on...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bluetooth_decay:
No, it is not "EXACTLY" what I'm saying.

The "normal OS" I'm running on my PC, I'm familiar with. I know where it's vulnerable, and while I take steps to make it less vulnerable, I take a calculated risk, if you will, in running it connected to the Internet.

The phone, however, not so much. There are risks there, too, but beyond installing suspect apps and the general statement that "it is a computer", I don't know specific details.

I therefore approached this from a general security perspective. Does having the flash locked solve all the phone's security problems? Of course not. But on the surface at least it goes against defense in depth principles. Is that a huge risk? Is it dwarfed by other factors, and therefore rather meaningless in the grand scheme of things? Can one minimize the risk by doing other things? These were the topics of discussion I was trying to throw out, and hoping that some people on here with more experience digging around in the Incredible's software could comment.

But I guess I phrased my initial question incorrectly, because instead of an intelligent discussion, I've been called "stupid" twice. Oh well...

EDIT: On a different topic, I see you are a member of the unrEVOked team. Thank you guys for all your efforts.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bluetooth_decay:
Thank you, and no, I didn't "miss" it. It's incredible (no pun intended) what people will read into/infer from posts.

I actually have rooted my phone. I just wanted to get a better idea what I was getting into with the further step of permanently unlocking the flash, and hoped I'd get some more knowledgeable insight. So far, I've been disappointed, but it's early, and maybe some people were having a bad day or something.

Maybe the answer is "don't worry about it but keep an eye on your bill". :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] :
^^^^^ UNLOCKING NAND gives you more access to the hardware, not anyone else
[Droid Incredible Android Development] aaronjb:
I'm sure you're a bright kid, but focusing on your studies would be a great idea, I think.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Hairston:
To Ryan, Shadowmite and the rest of the Unrevoked team:

Pay no attention to these Sallys too frightened to look under their bed after dark.

I (and so many others) can't thank you enough for your efforts. Keep fighting the good fight!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] blakestiffler:
i gotta return my phone because the speaker blew out. I know how to restore everything except for s-off. Can this be undone? Does it matter if i send my phone back to verizon with s-off?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] IShootPixels:
It can NOT be undone at this time. They say it's possible for Unrevoked to do, but they have not released that. I suppose part of the problem is that IF they did release a way to undo it then they'd effectively be disclosing the weakness of the system and Verizon would be all over it trying to patch it.

Does it matter? Well it all depends on what they check. If you return it all to stock with the S-off exception then they may just replace the speaker, turn on the phone and check to see that the speaker works. Assuming the phone appears stock, then they may not even notice. It's a risk either way. Worst case it that they refuse to fix the speaker.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Berzerker7:
Honestly, you're sending your phone to Verizon techs, not HTC techs. I doubt they even know how to get into HBOOT. My bet is you'll be perfectly fine as long as you stock back to 2.1 no root.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] xrussx:
I agree. When you get a replacement phone, it actually comes from a third party company that verzion deals with. They are out of Texas, New Breed is the company. They will send you the replacement and you send the old phone back to this location. I really don't know what happens after they receive the phone, but even the phones within the 30 day return window go here.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] drieves1:
Get you some needle nose pliers pull one of gold thing out for battery phone shouldn't boot. Its extreme but worked couple time with broken screens for me.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rdmerck:
I just fell out of my chair laughing!

Sent from my Froyo HTC Incredible
[Droid Incredible Android Development] blakestiffler:
Thanks for the advice guys. I'm gunna steer clear from the pliers suggestion, but I commend your creativity
[Droid Incredible Android Development] poulosjr:
I've tried for like the past 45min to get the pb31img.zip to flash in hboot and it has not been able to and I show s-off in hboot and the SD card is formatted to fat32 and the zip is in /mmt/sdcard/ by using astro file manager..... can someone please help me to get the newest radio for froyo I'm using skyraider 2.52.2
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rigman:
Do you have the view in astro set to hide file extensions? If so, sometimes the filename can end up being pb31img.zip.zip.

If that doesn't help, try another sd card. Does hboot say it's looking for an update file?

________________________________

Unrevoked forever

SkyRaider 2.5.2 Sense

Hrdra kernel ocuv_ov_v10 (#2)

Radio 2.15.00.07.28
[Droid Incredible Android Development] poulosjr:
Im using SkyRaider 2.52.2

Rooted

S-OFF

im still on 1.000.xxx radio baseband tho...

im having a horrible time trying to update the radio to 2.xxx version

I did just jump from stock 2.1 to the SkyRaider 2.52.2 with the 1.000.xxx radio still in it should i have updated the radio first then the ROM??
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rigman:
It'd help if you'd tell us what steps you're taking and what you're seeing on screen.

Check out the thread titled [Guide] Root, nand unlock, radio, ......

Go down to section 3 for radio upgrade, and try following step by step.

________________________________

Unrevoked forever

SkyRaider 2.5.2 Sense

Hrdra kernel ocuv_ov_v10 (#2)

Radio 2.15.00.07.28
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Cheesejam:
In the instructions, what does this part mean:

"When doing updates, be sure to flash all partitions at the same time."

I already have Skyraider 2.5.2 and a Hydra Kernel, so can I just follow the directions like normal. This one line just kind of confused me, thanks!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SoCalMiles:
For all those worried about this being irreversible, I've tested and have been given permission to say that S-On does work great...just as easy as S-Off and is coming to a thread near you soon...lol. Just have a little patients for they're still making it pretty. :D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jermaine151:
Good info! Thanks.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
Cool

THANK YOU! I just noticed the new rumor (yes, they have all been false) of a 9/1 release for Froyo/Incredible. It would be great if S-ON was released soon, so that I can run S-OFF. Dunno if you should start a new thread though ... there are a bunch of people who are looking to send back their S-OFF Incredibles for warranty repair, and it may pay for them to wait until S-ON is released (if it will be soon).
[Droid Incredible Android Development] cooksalot:
My husband says it's incredible how many people lose their phones while out in the boat. "Darn! I got the fish, but my phone fell out of my pocket. Lost it in the lake." He gets those all the time and has to refer them to the insurance number. :D

p.s. no pun intended he insists that is the number one thing he hears during the summer. LOL!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] vandykky:
Update: Verizon received my s-off warranty replacement inc back on 8/22 and as of today there are no charges. Will update you if anything happens but so far its clear sailing!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Heathsrow:
Great

This is great news. What are the chances this will be released before the new rumored froyo update date? I am on the fence on installing forever...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
Me Too

I am 100% in the same boat as you, with the same hope.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mmastrac:
S-ON is coming very soon.

Anyone who wants to beta-test S-ON, PM me.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] IShootPixels:
Sweet! This should make a lot of people happy.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
Just ran v1.0

Well, with v1.1 (with S-ON) being released any second, I finally had enough faith in its existence to run S-OFF. Yay!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] elborak:
Many of us have been saying "VZW don't care" since S-OFF was released, but some are just worriers by nature I guess.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mmastrac:
It's out now (S-ON is linked in the FAQ part):

http://unrevoked.com/forever
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Horsetooth:
Thank you SO much! I have been trying to figure this out forever! :-)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] UndergroundWire:
This is great news.

Daniel Son, show me S-ON, S-OFF
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Raptor567:
Proud supporter

Now that there is a S-On I've no reason to really hold back anymore. I am now fully S-OFF.

Thanks unrevoked guys!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] CLeDInc:
s-on and unroot

i posted this on another thread but i didn't know where it would be better asked

I'm still kind of new to the whole Android OS but rooted thanks to the unrevoked team (much appreciated). I was wondering does s-off stop my phone from recieving the OTA or verizon from not sending me the OTA since the update for froyo is tomorrow? Also how do I turn s-on and unroot because when people have been saying that unrooting doesn't turn s-on?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ardax:
S-ON/S-OFF and Root are 2 different things. I'd suggest rereading unrevoked's wiki pages for both unrevoked 3.1 and unrevoked forever until you fully understand them. Setting your phone back to S-ON and reinstalling the OTA may leave you unable to re-root your phone in the future. Basically, the only reason to go back to S-ON is for when you intend to hand the phone back over to Verizon.

S-OFF shouldn't prevent your phone from receiving the OTA. Rooting & ClockworkMod might though. You don't want to set S-ON before getting the OTA though, otherwise you may not be able to root after installing the OTA. One of the unrevoked team did mention that at least one root exploit is still available though, so it should just be a matter of time before there's an updated unrevoked package to root this latest OTA leak.

If you want to roll back to stock 2.1 w/o root or ClockworkMod, simply follow the instructions in the first post of this thread. Keep S-OFF.

After getting the OTA, you can get the PB31IMG.ZIP file from this post and flash it via HBOOT to reinstall ClockworkMod Recovery. Then use ClockworkMod to flash the payload-update.zip in this post to re-root the phone.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] corefile:
Strange, when I'm in recovery mode, my optical track ball stops working so I can select any of the menu items. when I boot into recover mode, either through rom managers or rebooting and hoding down error and power. when I get into recover mode I can't select anything with the optical track ball, I even tried a long push. so I end up having to pull the battery cause I can't even select "reboot now"
[Droid Incredible Android Development] robert432:
Do you have to be rooted to turn S-OFF back to S-ON?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ACD168:
yes you do.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] robert432:
Ok, so if I want to put back on a stock recovery (as in http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=756850), how would I go about that? The recovery mentioned in that thread requires S-OFF.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ACD168:
Flash the RUU.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mrsexkey:
so maybe i am missing something in their docs. but if i want to turn s-on how do i do it ? just re-rerun unrevoked forever when it is s-off and it will change it back ?

Basically i want to start over from scratch and go to stock, s-on to hopefully fix my random reboot problem. I have done just about everything else already but it still reboots whenever it feels like.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SoCGHOST:
There are two different files. One for S-off and one for S-on, depending on which you are trying to flash.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mrsexkey:
Great. Where is the download file with the s-on then ? all I see is one download
[Droid Incredible Android Development] elborak:
Then you need to look again.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] robert432:
Randomly rebooting sounds more like a kernel issue. The stock kernel cause reboots about once/day. SkyRaieder 2.5.2 and KingxKernel was very stable.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mrsexkey:
I am running rooted stock 2.1, have been on stock 2.2, rooted 2.2, cm6, you name it. doesnt make a difference. it reboots on all of them. i am stuck in a reboot loop right now. Just had to pull the battery and power back up. was stuck on the htc wvo white welcome screen. all i was doing is browsing the app drawer and 3 reboots later i am stuck. no rhyme or reason why it does this.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mrsexkey:
maybe you are a better looker than I am. But i would think it would be on this page.

http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever

but whatever it is, i cant find it. only find a link to the most current unrevoked forever and that has no mention of s-on
[Droid Incredible Android Development] robert432:
S-ON is in the FAQ section.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] robert432:
Maybe your device is overheating. Try running it in front of a fan and see if it still reboots on you.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mrsexkey:
i got it. just did a "find" on the page. my bad
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mrsexkey:
i am pretty sure that is the problem. but it overheats all the time... i had a temp monitor on it and whenever it go over 102ish it would reboot. and it doesnt take that long to get there. so basically the phone is unusable because it just reboots if i use it for anything. slingplayer, watch a movie, use it in the sun, etc

Then it wont boot up until the temp goes down.

So I assume this is a problem with the EVO itself. as i cannot fix it no matter what rom is on it

edit: well there goes that theory. had a battery widget on the front screen. 97.7 and it rebooted while i was looking at it... great.... :(

Hank
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Baghtal:
e:signature verification failed

Not sure if this should go here or under a clockworkMOD Recovery thread let me know if i'm in the wrong place :o

When I install this either using ROM Manager / Clockworks install .zip from card, or rename to update.zip and install from Clockworks without the ROM Manager i get the messages...

ClockworkMod Recovery v2.5.0.1

Finding update package...

Opening update package...

Verifying update package...

<using ROM Manager boot only...>

E:failed to seek in /cache/update.zip (Invalid argument)

<both methods>

E:signature verification failed

Installation aborted.

Can anyone point me in the right direction for help with this?

Info:

DInc (of course)

Rooted with UnrEVOked 3

Pre-Release 2.2 OTA

Thread 726791 (New accounts can't link)

Android: 2.2

Baseband: 2.05.00.06.11
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tiger505:
help with unrevoked?

I hope this is not off topic. I'm trying to root my HTC Dinc and I'm following all the Unrevocked3 instructions. When I get to the HBOOT screen and I go to my Device Manager it still shows Android Phone and not Other Devices with sub menu Android 1. If I could get there I think I could finish rooting but after may times trying to follow instructions I'm still hung on Device Manager say Android phone. A very big THANKS in advance if someone can help.

Thanks

Tiger
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tdavis42:
You need to uninstall the drivers that your phone installs when plugged in for the first time. Then run the UnrEVOked program to install the right drivers for you.

EDIT: right click on the Android Phone and select uninstall from the drop down list.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] dwvenus:
Root new official ota??

I hope this is in the correct forum but, if not, I apologize. Just got new HTC Incredible (bricked old one :eek:), totally stock and today got the Froyo 2.2 ota upgrade from VZW. Since I already bricked one phone I am treading a little bit lightly right now. Can my new phone now be rooted and s-off applied? I know how to do it, just don't know if the update will cause this phone to brick if I try it. Thanks for the help.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
Very nice post. Thanks, hfam.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] UndergroundWire:
Soon.

unrevoked is working on a Froyo edition of unrevoked 3 and unrevoked forever. Just wait for it.

http://twitter.com/unrevoked/status/22768896736
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mecrosis:
Hey Guys, not sure if I just missed this somewhere. I'm running the leaked OTA Froyo ROM circa 8/01/2010. I have unrevoked 3 (clockwork) on my phone. My radio is 2.05.00.06.11.

The problem I'm having is when I try to install unrevoked either through ROMManager or the standard way (Power+Vol Down) I get the error:

E:Can't open /sdcard/update.zip

(bad)

Installation aborted.

Mt card is FAT32 format. Any ideas?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Terry Hesticles:
Thanks for this post.

Worked great.

Only issue was I had to delete the PB31IMG file off of my card after I installed it.

Then I put the update on the card and did the process.

Perfecto!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] EVsEVO:
Got close - got errors

Did I brick?

There was an error in the file. Then in my brilliance, I thought I did something wrong...so I tried reinstalling the patch (yes, I know, that wasn't real smart)

The first time, I followed directions all the way, and installed the unrevoked-forever.zip from my sd card. It gave me an error.

I reran the zip file and now is says there the following:

unrEVOked forever S-OFF patch v1.1

Verifying System type

verifying current system

unpacking patches,

removing unneeded files

patching system files

unpacking new files

symlinks and permissions

W: phone already off?

E: Critical Radio Verification failure

E: (did you run the patch twice)

E: contact unrevoked

E: updated failed. check /sdcard/soff.log

E: error in /sdcard/unrevoked-forever.zip

(status 42)

installation aborted.

My radio is 2.05.00.06.11.

Did not update to 2.2 yet

Crap. HELP! Thanks in advance.

**Update**

I rebooted the phone and it doesn't appear to have caused any problems. Kudos again to unrEVOked for protecting idiots like me everywhere. not sure what caused the original problem, but I had the same issue as Mecrosis - about 2 posts above this one. Any insight? Thanks.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] xywh:
I have flashed the S-ON tool several times from AmonRA's recovery... probably 10 times. HBOOT is still showing as S-OFF.... has anyone else had this problem?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rossguy:
I have s-off and reverted back to complete stock to install the ota and it is not showing up. I have checked system updates and it tells me I'm up to date. Any ideas?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tlucyk:
unrevoked forever.zip not working

desire rooted with unrevoked3. NAND is locked. tried the unrevoked forever procedure. i get an error: unsupported system.

my radio is 32.41.00.32u_5.08.00.04. signal is hsdpa.

tried the update with the oldest radio available on xda because the supported radio's for the patch are 2.05.10.06.29 and 2.05.10.08.11. does anyone have a link or know a radio that will work with this patch or if it even has anything to do with why its not working for me?

or am i having problems because my desire is hsdpa not cdma.

my desire is currently working great with defrost 6.0. what issues could i run into with s-on. its better to have s-off right?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] igknighted:
Check which section of the forum you are in... not sure you want our advice on HTC Desire issues ;)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ialexdogaru:
Problem/Major

Sorry if already posted, but I don't have much time. I just rooted my desire (dunno if gsm or cdma), from orange romania. I then proceeded to install the unrevoked-forever.zip from SD card. It says unREVOked forever S-OFF patch v1.1 then stuck at verifying system type.... any help? I want to use my phone....
[Droid Incredible Android Development] cristianomc:
Unrevoked 3.2

With Unrevoked 3.2 you do not need to reflash a official ROM or uses Unrevoked-forever. The ROM will be already downloaded to the "download" folder. When it asks for update click to remember later and reboot in recovey mode. Then select to install update.zip. Then toogle signature on/off. The first time you click on this it will show you ON, the second disables signature checking. Select the .zip update already downloaded to the phone from the sd card (download folder). Wait for reboot now. Then it will do some procedures and reboot. Done!

ps: before entering fastboot to reboot in recovery mode, I selected "debug mode" in phone (applications/development).

Cheers!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jzajzz:
I have a problem when I try to move the ZIP file to my sd Card my computer says "Please insert a disk in DRIVE I .. Which is the phone drive .. Why doesnt it recognize my phone as a drive?

I am charging as a DISK DRIVE already .. what am I doing wrong?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jzajzz:
Ok I got it to work but now the ROM Manager is telling me the SD CARD IS NOT MOUNTED .. what does that mean .. How do I do that?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] vijayendra.agrawal:
Anyone has tried Unrevoked Forever on AT&T version of HTC Aria?

I have Unrevoked recovery image already running in HTC Aria, but since bootloader still shows S-ON and I am not able to do "fastboot flash" command, I want to put bootloader that can change it to S-OFF.

Any other suggestions?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chakotay2:
waiting for device

Ok, using unrevoked3, I have usb debugging on and it windows recognizes I am plugging the phone in, I don't have htc synch installed. Just says "waiting for device" on the flash tool.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tuxedowf:
s-on returned

Used unrevoked in June to root and its been fine till now. Just flashed a rom last weekend and s-on was back when I rebooted. Still have the rom running and its fine, but do i have to reroot or something?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] lafester:
S-off didn't happen until August iirc.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tuxedowf:
hmm my bad. pretty sure I rooted it before August though.

So, is there a way to get s-off without flashing unrevoked?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] lafester:
Read the op.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] psixichka:
I have an evo

I flashed the radios&pri but they dont stick???? heellppp

rooted with unrevoked

say 2.6.32.17 root@paris-laptop #2??

build fresh 3.5.0.1

baseband 2.15.00.09.01

pri 1.77_003

prl 60674

it also says S-ON in bootloader

how do i fix it???

unroot &root with unrevoked forever? is there another way? batt sucks!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Nazgul07:
To flash radios you need to be S-OFF. To do that you need to flash unrevoked forever in recovery. It's the link in the op. Read the instructions on how to do it there.

Edit: I think I'm wrong about it being a necessity... But I'd do it anyway.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] psixichka:
eventhough I'm rooted with unrevoked already?

is this what i should do?

back up( what abt nand?)

clean cache&dalvik

&flash unrevoked forever from sd card?

&then reflash flash & etc...?