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[EVO 4G Android Development] Shauli20:
Well, the way to know for sure would be to try the kernel again this time wiping first.

It may be an issue with SetCPU though. People's experiences vary, but I found it made my phone unstable without Overclocking. Try OC Widget and see if it makes a difference.

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[EVO 4G Android Development] :
I am having the same issue. Phone is great during the day and when i wake up in the morning and open the phone, it locks up and reboots. I am using SetCPU. I have recently flashed to CFS #7 and works great no lock ups. If all it is is SetCPU then i'll go back to #8 because of the speed it has :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] MJStephens:
The guys having problems with rebooting after using setcpu..... are you overclocking? Most people have issues setting their phone above 11.3-11.7mhz or so.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jkinnison90:
Any new plans for a new kernel?
[EVO 4G Android Development] :
I usually set to 1113 Mhz but only #8 is the one i have problems with. Ive used kernel cfs #6 and now #7 with no problems.
[EVO 4G Android Development] wsantiagow:
With BFS #8 I had to go down a notch on SetCpu because I was getting the phone to freeze. Once I went down a notch, it is working beautifully.

With that said, on BFS 6 or 7 I didn't have to turn it down. I'm sticking with BFS #8
[EVO 4G Android Development] jasongthang:
I've used 4,5, and 6 with no problems, but that's with Fresh 3.1.0.2 rom. With #8 on fresh 3.2 I hadnt even gotten to messing around with SetCPU before the phone started rebooting. Although it was most likely set at default 998mhz.

I think I'll try #6 again, full wipe of course. Or I might just wait until King or someone mods this newest kernel.
[EVO 4G Android Development] EVOme:
Will this Kernel work on Baked Snacks 1.5???
[EVO 4G Android Development] darkhova:
Ive used this kernel on Baked Snack 1.5
[EVO 4G Android Development] darkhova:
Running #8 right now on Baked Snack 1.5 silky smooth
[EVO 4G Android Development] Mikedick:
Just got around to trying out the latest kernel up there. Runs smoother than the previous.

Whoever tagged this thread "Sexual Tyrannosaurus", FTW man, FTW.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Djay45:
Is anyone else running CFS#8 with no issues? I thought everyone here was having lag issues with it. My experience is that it runs fine for then lags repeatedly. Makes the phone almost unusable.

I would prefer to use a CFS kernel because BFS doesn't play nice with some apps.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Karl:
i was having issues with both cfs and bfs # 8 but it was more noticeable on bfs #8

so i went back to bfs #6 seems to be running sold
[EVO 4G Android Development] strongsteve:
+1

Using bfs#6
[EVO 4G Android Development] SilverZero:
Which apps have trouble?
[EVO 4G Android Development] jasongthang:
Wiped everything, installed bfs #8, phone wouldnt even make it past the boot animation. I didnt have the stock kernel, so I tried to restore my nand, and it said something about having to do it through adb. So none of my nand's would restore, I wiped everything and re-flashed fresh 3.2, was able to use the phone, then I was able to restore nands. So I'm back at Fresh 3.2 with stock HTC kernel.

Is it possible that bfs #8 doesnt get along well with novatec screens? Thats the only thing I can think of, unless maybe I just got a bad download of BFS #8. After 3 times, I can't get it to work :-(
[EVO 4G Android Development] reallango:
I've been trying to get CIFS Module working on my phone as well. I downloaded the source code and it does appear to be in there. But I haven't been able to get it working with CIFSManager. Any help from either someone who has gotten this working on one of kings kernels or really any evo kernel could respond as I'm really wanting to get to my full music collection. Or if the King himself could check it out that would be awesome.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kingklick:
I found the issue I believe...

Once I successfully reformat I will be fixing this

:D
[EVO 4G Android Development] reallango:
Sweet I can't wait. This feature has been killing me.
[EVO 4G Android Development] spamking98:
U r da man !!! Thanks for a great kernel...
[EVO 4G Android Development] onicrom:
new release is here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=773444
[EVO 4G Android Development] spamking98:
What setting in novafreq should i use...? im using kernel #8 with fresh rom 3.2
[EVO 4G Android Development] Karl:
I think #8 doesnt like apps2sd
[EVO 4G Android Development] Wisiwyg:
Battery experiment, > 32 hrs.

I ran a little experiment over this holiday weekend and ran my phone as I normally would - couple of phone calls, some internet browsing, reading Exchange and GMail emails (probably light usage compared to others) - to see just how long it would go without charging.

(Sorry, don't have the app to take a screen capture)

Up time: 32:24

Awake time: 2:15

Since unplugged: 1 day, 8hr, 24 min

Cell standby: 54%

Time without signal: 40% (I live out in the boonies!)

Phone idle: 38%

Android system: 6%

Display: 2%

ROM: OMJ 3.1 Deodexed

Kernel: KingKlick #8 CFS

Also: Juice Defender (free)

Lookout (free)

HW: 002, Novatec

Note I don't have any OC going on, just what's baked into the ROM/Kernel. I'm pretty happy with the results. Looking forward to the new kernel with even better results.

As I finished this post, the phone finally gave up and went into a forced power down. Probably around 32 hrs 30 min. I think I'll let it sleep...
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shauli20:
Thanks. From what I read on that thread so far it seems the main improvement with the updated firmware is in the kernel. I'm very happy with King's kernel, so I don't see a need to flash it. What would probably be awesome is this new firmware/kernel with King's modification on top...

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[EVO 4G Android Development] godfirst:
Quick question king, just got me a replacement phone on Friday, rooted it and installed fresh 3.2 and tried your kernel #8, and cannot overclock pass 113 without any issues. Now my old evo was running 3.2 and #8 and any other previous roms plus your kernels and i could oc 1119 and 1128 easily, but my new phone freezes with oc. Also the first phone I had was the released one in May that was given away at the google convention center with hardware 002. But this new replacement I recieved has hardware 003. Do you think the newer models aren't made as good as the first batch or what?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shauli20:
What is this CIFS Module people are taking about, and what does it do? Thanks in advance.

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[EVO 4G Android Development] darkhova:
Not Every Phone can handle the same overclock.....
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shauli20:
Why would that make sense? Assuming two phones are made identical to each other, is there any reason to get different performance from them?

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[EVO 4G Android Development] a2k:
Not all CPU's are cut the same.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shauli20:
I'll pretend I know what you're talking about...

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[EVO 4G Android Development] lonewolfnight:
The minute differences in CPU chip constructions does. On chip vs another will always differences in overclock. Some has to do with thermal and molecular structure. Something the manufacturing process does not follow. As long as a base line tolerance is followed the chip is passed and put to assembly

sent from my HTC evo assisted by unrevoked
[EVO 4G Android Development] MOGULBILL:
This is very true... so everyone who didn't know this, pay attention.
[EVO 4G Android Development] robpet2:
apps2sd is working fine for me.. no force closes or any lag issues on games either
[EVO 4G Android Development] Biofall:
AAAAnd your not considering the millions if not billions of possibilities regarding user inputs to the phone
[EVO 4G Android Development] yamaford:
lonwolf hit the nail on the head but I like to use cars as an analogy. More people understand cars than computers.

The new 5.0 mustang engine is rated at 412 h.p. If you purchased a car with this engine and it dynoed out at 400 you could say something is wrong but if the stars aligned and all the perfect speced parts just happen to land in the same engine and made 420 hp ( were talking grams and thousands of an inch clearance) would you want to rate all 5.0's off that engine? NO because its rare. CPU's work the same way. As long as they pull 412 HP/ 998MHZ its a good engine/CPU.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jasongthang:
I was thinking the exact thing, but as regards to tuning. I had an eclipse I was tuning an eprom ecu on. theres a reason you have to be factory trained for AEM EMS, because every single car and ecu is different, even from the factory. one car with the same mods as another might not print the same values (map, iac, temp, etc). And then like abkrieger says, the driver mod (user) will always be different.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Djay45:
The app you want for screenshots is ShootMe in the market. Its free and just requires you have root ( which you obviously do ).

Also, are you experiencing any lag issues with CFS #8 kernel? Like some stuttering when scrolling things like your app drawer or moving home screens side to side. I always get this when flashing that kernel. I may try using a different rom ( I've tried it on EViO and Fresh ). I just didn't want to keep messing with it if everyone was having the same issue.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Djay45:
Only 2 apps that I know of have trouble running on BFS kernels ( either kings or nets ), which are both games. Baseball Superstars 2010 ( full version ) and Pirates and Traders. I don't know what it is that makes them lockup or lag when using a BFS kernel.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Karl:
hmm i see from your sig that you have a 128 swap im only at 32mb what made you choice that.. should i up my swap do you see any difference from 32 to 128?

thought swap was not even used?
[EVO 4G Android Development] leeh41:
Flashed #8 today. Battery drain was super fast. See pic. You can see when I reboot.
[EVO 4G Android Development] leeh41:
Sorry forgot pic.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
Step one, get rid of the task killer

. : My name is G'man and I am a flashaholic :.
[EVO 4G Android Development] EVOme:
Not what I wanted to hear :(
[EVO 4G Android Development] mdmitchell13:
I know this is my first post, but which kernel is better? CFS or BFS? I saw that CFS had multitouch and FPS fix included but BFS was based off CFS 7, so is that implemented into both? And just to clarify that by working with all 2.2 sense roms it does work with rooted evo stock 2.2 right? Thanks!
[EVO 4G Android Development] godfirst:
Thanks for all the response wolf hit the question on point! And as for the different users explanation,i set my new evo up the same exact way the old one was, but now I understandexactly what wolf is talking about,i just assumed that the manufacture would try and keep everything close to the same, but hey everybody half steps.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shauli20:
That question has been asked many times in this thread. Search the thread for more information. Basically, neither are 'better', it's mainly a question of what works for you. The technical differences are beyond what the average user will understand. Just try any, and see what works. And watch what people say about specific kernels.

And yes, they all work with Stock 2.2.

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[EVO 4G Android Development] mdmitchell13:
Thank you for the quick response
[EVO 4G Android Development] reallango:
CIFS is a file system module that allows you to mount a samba or Windows network share as though it where a local hard drive. For Android this allows you to work with your shared files in most apps where as most other methods require you to copy the file to your SD before opening it. Which for me means I can then access my 40 gigs of music.

I hope that answers your question.
[EVO 4G Android Development] leeh41:
I've experimented with both task killer and without. I see no noticeable difference in battery life. I continue to use it just to free up memory as needed. The point of the post was not ATK. It was the large drop in battery after I flash BFS#8. ATK was installed prior to BFS#8.

Went back to BFS#6. Was using that for weeks before I decided to flash to #8 and had no problems.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shauli20:
Thanks. I'm really not familiar enough with Windows network share to fully understand your explanation. I downloaded the CIFSmanager app to see what this does, and it asks me to enter a ' share path ' as well as a user name and password. How do I create a share path?

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[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
as it has been communicated before, those are meerly a placebo and in fact with 2.2 there really is no need as processes and apps can be killed within froyo settings. Using a task killer is actually counterproductive as the tasks/apps being killed are restarted and thus adding additional cpu cycles. so if you are frequently using a task killer throughout the day and not letting android manage the memory you are actually lowering your battery life due to excess cycles restarting processes that the task killer is "killing"
[EVO 4G Android Development] wings9130:
I have juice defender running. It has completely messed up my phone and made it unresponsive. I have setcpu as well. I have advanced task killer but don't really use it anymore. I have these kernels running with damage 3.5. I was really hoping juice defender would help my battery but instead is slowing the phone to the point of making it useless. Is there something im doing wrong?
[EVO 4G Android Development] JvIo55iBl3r:
Juice defender sure slow phone down if you set up data connection after screen turned on, but it should be back to normal very quick. which kernel did you flash?

according to my experience, for fresh 3.1, BFS#6 is the best, maybe not most power save one, but very responsive, no lag. for Fresh 3.2, BFS#8 is good, even better than others.

hope it helps
[EVO 4G Android Development] Deviation:
Well after some testing, the battery life is the same which is a bummer. Then again I abuse my battery (full brightness, GPS on, heavy surfing/email, etc).

Otherwise, things are working great. Love the FPS unlock. :) Nice work.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kingklick:
testers are testing a kernel I Have been working on...
[EVO 4G Android Development] tlxxxsracer:
To be perfectly honest, I dont think I could go to a CFS kernal after running BFS #6 or 8. Both of these are fast. 8 more than 6 but i think 6 is more stable. I run into problems of having #8 running and then it begins to lag and get slow to the point where I usually reboot my phone or reflash the kernal :rolleyes:

Great work though! cant wait for more updates.

Not to mention the battery is great- medium usage (txts, email, facebook, yahoo IM running continuously) I get at least 12hrs.

I just need help getting apps2sd working (the correctly way, not just through 2.2). I dont want to loose my root if i format the sdcard
[EVO 4G Android Development] duckmeat:
Lately i have been on a flashing fest, but last night i wemt into recovery and fixed apk uid mismatches. not even sure what it really does, but it seemed to drastically improve battery life on my evo running bfs 8 and fresh 3.2. yall might give it a try.

however, my wifi has been slowing down to a stop from time to time. i narrowed it down to my evo cause my work phone, HTC Hero, runs great and always has good wifi speed. any help from yall....... thanks.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bigupurself7:
What is the point of having 16 different kernels? Lets get rid of some of the ones that are not used anymore. Keep BFS 6 since most people like it, but seriously...I have an idea, keep 3 or 4 of the kernels. 1.Fastest 2.Best Battery 3. Average battery and speed. This would be a lot simpler for everyone. What do you guys think? Please, I dont want a response that says "try each out and see what you like"
[EVO 4G Android Development] iknowsquat:
You may not want to hear it but you're gonna get it anyway :p

We DO have to try them all out and see what works best.

Admittedly the last 3-4 are most likely the strongest as King continues to improve on his creations but what if MY dream kernel is the one you just cut to save server space? :mad:

The last few posts (about chip construction) prove there are simply too many variables for there to be an accurate

"1.Fastest 2.Best Battery 3. Average battery and speed"

Besides-choice is good.

You're not wrong, just my .02.
[EVO 4G Android Development] strongsteve:
+1 I agree......
[EVO 4G Android Development] Biofall:
Ah the dude is just like me, probably has a hard time with choices, and he most likely feels overwhelmed by all these kernels everywhere
[EVO 4G Android Development] Droga:
Ok, its time for an update:

Running Ava V6 with latest kernel # 8 I got:

11AM-9:30PM - 10.5 hours

bluetooth streaming audio 8 hrs

talk time 2 hrs

Net browsing 45 minutes (30 minutes wifi)

Time with spotty signal 1.5 hrs (I run a rural route, so signal quality is not the best at my area)

GPS - 30 min

So I gained 3 more hours of battery ( I ended with 3%, but had a 1 hr long conversation, and 1 more hour of streaming audio), I was with spotty signal (battery killer) for 1 hour and Im in LOVE with this kernel. I do believe it is possible to have a 20 hr battery day with normal usage in a good signal area!
[EVO 4G Android Development] kingklick:
good to see

NEW 2.6.34.5 kernel for SENSE is live in another thread :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] kingklick:
I have a new BFS kernel almost ready to be cooked :)

It is really something else according to the creator of BFS.

Hope you are all ready for it tomorrow........!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Biofall:
Damn early adopter OCD is kickin in
[EVO 4G Android Development] bigupurself7:
Ok, ill ask a simple question, just for better battery life on the last two kernels, which is better, BFS or CFS #8?
[EVO 4G Android Development] juancaperez2000:
Hey Rey (king) im waiting for your new meal, even i think after you read all that crap that people are saying you gonna leave us alone but good to heard about you again hahahaha, im really fan of your kernels :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] atoy74:
Just my .02 but I found the battery drain on Kings BFS #8 pretty bad. Not CM6 bad, but somewhere in the 8-10% an hour drain (closer to 10%.)

That being said I thought BFS #8 with Vael was probably the fastest sense based ROM i've used.

I had to revert back to Vael's stock kernel ROM though. Any suggestions? Any way I can have my cake and eat it too?
[EVO 4G Android Development] helfire1:
Been using #8 bfs and fresh 3.1 for quite a while now. Great battery life, stable and quick. Looking forward to what's next.

Only suggestion is to keep the same naming convention on your filenames :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] JvIo55iBl3r:
bfs#8 on my fresh 3.1 was not so good as bfs#6, lots of screen lag. but, #8 do have improvement at 3.2.
[EVO 4G Android Development] helfire1:
I see no screen lag, maybe I don't notice but I've played a few games and everything seems ok to me
[EVO 4G Android Development] kingklick:
Big performance increase with the unreleased bfs patch patch (lol) I'm hearing...

:D
[EVO 4G Android Development] tsipa:
Just made a long overdue donation... I've been using your kernels since CFS #3 and they are top notch. Keep up the good work!

Confirmation # 6TL42553PJ326863S
[EVO 4G Android Development] ricsim78:
Tried BFS and CFS #8 kernals, with the following roms:

Baked Snack 1.7

Burnt Droid 1.1

Fresh 3.2

Evio 2 1.2 RC

My phone does NOT like kernal #8 one bit! It runs fast at first, then things start getting very slow and laggy. If I reboot, the phone flies for a bit then slows down again. I think that my Evo does not like getting under-volted too much, causing the lag problems. Running the same ROM and settings with either BFS #6 or Netarchy's latest BFS/CFS causes my phone to fly again with no lag.

I also had issues with WIFI and my antenna that I should mention, I had real problems trying to download/update apps from the market over all the ROMS I tried with BFS #8 especially (CFS did it too though). Switching to a different Kernal with the same settings (Cache/Davlik cleared) fixed the issue immediately. My phone absolutely hates #8!

Currently using Caulkin's Evio 2 1.2 RC (my favorite overall ROM, highly recommended) with KingxKernal #6 BFS and my phone runs quick and flawlessly.

If you can come up with a kernal that has the enhancements of 8 without that much undervolting, I think it would be wonderful!

I am currently broke but donations will be incoming. Thank you for your time and great work!
[EVO 4G Android Development] juancaperez2000:
How long more felling like kid at Chrismas LOl
[EVO 4G Android Development] strongsteve:
Impatiently waiting for new King kernel.. Donation will definitely be coming. Performance first please!
[EVO 4G Android Development] dhusidic:
What is BFS and CFS? Which one do i need for my Evo running Fresh 3.2.0.0?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Noxious Ninja:
They are somewhat different ways of scheduling apps (deciding how they get to take turns using the processor). Either one will work. Some people find that BFS gives a smoother experience, but it's fairly subjective and also depends on what apps you run. You can always give both a shot and see what works best for you.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ricsim78:
That is a question that can be answered in lots of detail or shorthand.

I'll give you the simpler answer: BFS is generally quicker, CFS is generally more stable.

There really won't be much of a difference (in most cases) where you can tell by just using your phone which is being used. Yet if you use a program to benchmark your phone, BFS will usually be a bit faster.

Google CFS vs BFS to learn more. You can read more technicalities on both that way. Some phones might run better with one or the other. That is why it is good to have the choice, we can pick which we prefer or works best.

For Fresh, you can use just about any Kernal (CFS or BFS) you want. In fact, I have used different Kernals with each ROM I have tried so there is no "best" without trying different ones.

I suggest you try a few and see which works best for you. Most ROM makers build it with the kernel the ROM comes with, that does not mean it will be best for your phone, for you, or that you will get the best results from it. Try a few of King's, Netarchy's, or Hero's and see which works best for you.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ricsim78:
Agreed somewhat, but then we would have less to talk about ;)

Google is my friend with any question I run across in life. Unfortunately, people either are too lazy to Google or want the answer told to them in a different way.

I suggest finding a kernel that works good with your phone and sticking with it, regardless of what ROM you use. For example, Netarchy's own ROM (Burnt Droid v1.1) actually ran better with KingxKernal#6 then it did with his own kernel. A bit smoother and better battery life. That is not to say Netarchy makes inferior kernels, just King's work better for my phone (with the exception of the new #8 kernel, my phone performs terrible regardless of the ROM used with it.)

The only way I figured that out was to try different ones, much like trying on pairs of shoes. Pick the one that works best for you and stick with it!
[EVO 4G Android Development] juancaperez2000:
how is going with your new bfs Kernel King almost done?
[EVO 4G Android Development] kingklick:
New Kernel #9 BFS is live!
[EVO 4G Android Development] bigrushdog:
Testing now... King rocks!
[EVO 4G Android Development] kingklick:
Lol I.already have the links to the faqs in the op :p
[EVO 4G Android Development] bigrushdog:
smooth as silk

quadrant score = 1575 OC to 1190 = win
[EVO 4G Android Development] Karl:
#9 wow smooth as a brazilian bikini wax

for you not having an evo you make some killer kernels

no bugs so far woot