yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gbruyn:
What exact strings are you changing? Do we actually put in yournumber or our actual phone number? Currently my phone number is already shown.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cooksalot:
Heck I pay for unlimited access. As it was with my Moto Q it varied month to month. The darn thing wouldn't turn off it's internet access and start sucking bandwith. So some months when I used internet access and forgot to turn off my phone and restart it the thing would like use booku bandwith. Then some months I would remember to turn off and restart, and other months not even use it because the turn off and on business was a big hassle. (gee wonder why I don't want a Motorola this time around)

So really for the last 2 years I haven't had any consistent use for them to track any who. It's about time I get to really use the service I pay for.

Edit to add: Even now I have my Incredible hooked up to wifi when at home. So really even with wifi tethering so far this last month I've used waaaaay less than my ok months with that Moto Q.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Stu_Gotti:
I'm still scratching my head with this... I had previously used the WiFi hot spot with I want to say the CyanogenMod ROM and when I switched to SR 3.0 I can't get this thing to work now.

Does anyone have some troubleshooting tips they'd be willing to share?

I know I read about calling the one number and going about it that way, but if I can somehow setup this ROM similar to the previous setup that would be great.

I'm assuming that folks will need to know my setup, so here it is:

SR 3.0 Sense RC2, S-OFF, King Kernel #1

I appreciate any help in advance :cool: I always try to read before I post, but I'm just going in circles with this one.

Ciao.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cantare:
-n.b.: password is six zeroes, not seven

-in edit mode you will open 'security' and 'm.ip default profile' in turn. each time you look for the only entry containing "dun", as in:

<your actual phone number>@dun.vzw3g.com

edit out the "dun." so it looks like

<your actual phone number>@vzw3g.com

menu button -> commit changes and it should reboot--if you get a "radio" error saying something about "low power mode" try turning off all GPS location in Settings Location, shut off 3G & WiFi, turn on Airplane mode, reboot, and try ##778 again.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] patches152:
just set up and tested, works great!
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rikuna:
So there is no way for Verizon to see that we are using mobile hotspot? Or will it show up as mobile 3g usage?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zrxoa1:
I have been having problem with the 3G hotspot. I tried the free hack first. My laptop would connect to the Inc just fine, but I could not get any pages up on internet. Got no server errors. So I fixed phone (undid the hack) and actually activated the 3G hotspot feature. Still no luck. So called VZW and got put to a tech person.... what a joke, I knew more than she did! Anyway, we did a master reset (I backed up everything with mybackup) and it still did not work. Then a few minutes later, it started working. Thought all was well, went to bed. Got up this afternoon and it was not working...again. So I called and cancelled the feature.

I did the DUN edit hack and went to work. To guys with iphones were able to connect to the 3G signal via my phone on wifi just fine. No problem surfing the net.

So I come home and my laptop will connect to the phone just fine, but I still cannot get any pages to load in browser. Only thing I can figure is my 3G signal is just so poor here at home that there is not enough strength to share with laptop. The phone can surf its browser just fine. However, whenever at home, I use wifi and connect to my home network...faster anyway.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] patches152:
is there any performance difference between the netfilter kernel + WiFi tether app vs. Changing programming settings and using the included hotspot app?

Any additional benefits or drawbacks for one or the other?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Aesir Rising:
Two benefits of the EPST changes, compared to the Wireless Tether applet:

You don't need root, and

You don't need another app installed.

I connect my laptop through the hotspot at a solid and consistent 54mbits/sec (my laptop is Wireless A/B/G, not N). But that doesn't matter much if I'm going through the 3G network to access the Web, since the highest 3G up/down rates I seem to get are easily less than 5% of the bandwidth of the wi-fi connection between the phone and the laptop (I've never seen it higher than 0.92mbits/sec down).

Maybe something in the custom ROM/root/wireless tether code helps speed up the 3G connection to the Internet. I have no experience with that - but I doubt that it can do such a thing.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] patches152:
Good answer, LOL. So performance will be hardware and network based, not necessarily which process you use to get connection. Right?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mgeoffriau:
OK, I've read everything I could find about the EPST change to activate the wifi hotspot. I've seen one or two other references to the problem I'm having, but no solutions. A summary:

I am not paying for mobile wifi hotspot from Verizon. I just upgraded using the OTA download (upgrade.zip file) a couple days ago to Froyo.

When I initially started the wifi hotspot, my laptop connected fine, but of course, no internet access -- redirect to the Verizon signup page.

After I followed the EPST change directions, my laptop still connects fine, but instead of getting the Verizon redirect page, I get no internet connection at all (no webpage loads at all, no return on pings, etc). I tried first with an open, unsecured network, then added WPA security and tried again, with the same result.

The laptop I am using connects to normal wireless networks (and internet connections) just fine. It also works fine with a USB PdaNet connection.

Anyone else experienced this?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zrxoa1:
Your NOT alone....
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mgeoffriau:
Darn. I saw your post earlier. I was hoping you'd see this and reply that you'd sorted your problem out and had just forgotten to post the solution.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zrxoa1:
I cannot figure out the problem. Like I posted...it will not work, then a few minutes later it WILL work, with no changes to my laptop. Iphones connected and surfed just fine as did my son's laptop. I think you might just have to let it set for a few minutes one pc is connected to the Inc, and it will start working.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Aesir Rising:
I am not rooted, and I don't have Wireless Tether. I can't speak from personal experience wrt to that type of setup. So, I can't tell you with certainty that there is no MagicSauce(tm) in their code that mitigates or supercedes the bottleneck inherent between wi-fi and 3Gs speeds.

That said, I can't imagine any way that Wireless Tether or a custom rooted ROM is going to do anything to help that bottleneck in any way relevant to this comparison.

For the troubleshooting questions from zrxoa1 and mgeoffriau [Edit, not you mgeoffriau...I re-read your post and you have a different issue... which I don't have an immediate response for.], confirm the hotspot phone isn't sleeping.

Settings | Wireless & Networks | 3G Mobile Hotspot settings | Menu | Advanced | Power Mode.

I don't recall the default setting when I first enabled it, but I don't believe it was "Always On". Set it to Always On and see if your connection remains up. This may or may not have anything to do with your problem - but according to the symptoms you described, it was the first thing that came to mind.

And if you *do* want it to sleep at 5 or 10 minutes of inactivity intervals, you may (I'd presume) just have to refresh a page a couple of times to wake the connection back up. I've not tested that, as I have it set to Always On when I use it.

[Another edit for mgeoffriau. If you didn't change the @dun. part of one of the 3 (iirc) places you need to change it, you will see that type of symptom you describe: Where you can see your phone hotspot, but have no Internet access and do *not* get the Verizon provisioning webpage when you open a browser.

I would re-do the steps described here to confirm that you'd set the proper EPST configuration settings. The instructions given in this topic weren't exact step-by-steps, and you may need to remove a "dun." reference from 3 or 4 places, and not just two as described in prior posts.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blokehead:
Interesting

Just tried it and had a 'no Internet' initially. Went to a Web site via the browser, and - it took a while - once I connected to the site (I used m.cnn.com for simplicity & speed), it was working fine.

Maybe the initial connectivity takes a while because it's looking for a 'landing page'?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mgeoffriau:
I checked mine, and noticed that it was set to a 10 minute inactive time. I changed it to "Always On" and tried again...same result.

While I had the laptop connected to the DInc, I ran an ipconfig and did verify that the laptop is being assigned an IP in the Dinc wireless network.

blokehead, how long are we talking about? During one of my attempts, I connected, walked downstairs, refilled my drink, walked back upstairs, and still could not load a web page. Probably 3-4 minutes I'd guess.

Are we talking about 10 or more minutes before the initial page load? If so, that seriously cuts down on the convenience and usability.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blokehead:
Not THAT long...

Nope - took about 30 - 90 seconds, I'd say.

I surfed to m.cnn.com, it sat there 'thinking' for a while (no more then 90 seconds, i'd say), then the site came up, and after that, sites popped up pretty quickly (after CNN, tested foxnews.mobi/, m.cnet.com/ and m.gizmodo.com/ just to be sure)
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mgeoffriau:
I have rechecked a couple times, and looked at each menu option in the EPST configuration -- I removed 2 instances of dun. and there are no other places where it's referenced.

zrxoa1 -- out of curiosity, have you tried connecting to an IP address instead of a URL? I haven't yet, and it struck me that I haven't actually eliminated DNS as a potential problem.

Thanks for the replies, everyone...I know every forum has it's own library of information it considers to be obvious, and I did my best to search and read before posting my problem. If I ask something dumb, feel free to point it out.

EDIT:

Just checked -- DNS is not the issue. Reconnected to DInc hotspot, pinged an IP address I had just verified while connected to my work wifi network, and all requests timed out.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zrxoa1:
One thing I notice is that BEFORE I turn on the 3G Hotspot, my 3G indicator is flashing arrows up n down and there are bars of 3G signal lit up. Once I turn the hotspot feature on, my 3G signal goes to zero and there are no indications of 3G working...no arrows up n down.

Also, not sure if this matters, but when I go into the Hotspot settings, under LAN info, the IP address is the same as my home network router. Is this normal?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mgeoffriau:
Haven't noticed that with the 3G.

I'd been having some weirdness with the Froyo update in general, so last night I decided to do a data wipe and reinstall my apps and stuff. Will test today to see if that had any effect.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Aeckert:
So after the edits to EPST, I go to 3G Mobile Hotspot app and... run it?

I went to turn on the hotspot and it prompted me saying "You need the 3G Mobile Hotspot feature... blah blah blah".

Do I just accept this and that's it?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mgeoffriau:
zrxoa1 --

I just fixed mine (fingers crossed). I had tried an open, unsecured network with no luck. I also tried a WPA network with no luck. After my data wipe last night, I tried again this morning...with no luck.

THEN...out of pure curiosity, I tried a WPA2 network. BOOM. Took 30 or so seconds to verify the password and log on (or whatever it's actually doing), and then it worked. I'm actually using the connection right now.

So, add that to the bag of tricks. If you can't get the hotspot working (or it works intermittantly), and you've only tried an open or WPA network, try WPA2.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zrxoa1:
Nope.... no luck for me on that either. I just dont get it.....
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oneeyejack:
yes. just accept it! :)
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Aesir Rising:
This is confusing, but that's not too important I guess, if your issue is resolved. But I think we're all mixing up what a 3G hotspot does.

The 3G Hotspot doesn't do anything for connecting to wi-fi networks. It's a

3G

network point of access. It lets you connect to Verizon's (in this case)

3G

voice/data network to get to the internet. The "hotspot" is your phone in this case. It lets you connect a laptop or some other network device to the

phone

. The phone then routes traffic to/from verizon's 3G network, which in turn will route you to the Internet.

What does trying open networks or wap2 wap fap whatever have to do with anything? AFAIK, under the current 2.2 OS, if you turn on the hotspot the phone turns off wi-fi (if you had it on). I think I lost track of the issues folks are trying to resolve. My prior posts were about 3G hotspots, not "How do I connect to a wi-fi router".
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mgeoffriau:
No, you're not following. When you are turning on the 3G hotspot, there are options for creating it as an unsecured connection, or with various secure options (WEP, WPA, WPA2).

So what I'm saying is that when I created the hotspot with no security, and with WEP, I could connect my laptop to the phone, but got no internet connection. When I created the hotspot with WPA2 security, I was able to both connect my laptop to my phone, and also got an internet connection.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Aesir Rising:
Ok, your prior post gave me the picture that you were trying to connect to other random wi-fi routers in your area. Thanks for clarifying.

fwiw, I have my incredible set to WPA2 (AES). I never bothered to try a different setting, since I also have my home wi-fi router using WPA2 on its N channel.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rodwilsonsr:
##778 slowness

I have the stock 2.1and loaded the update.zip to 2.2

I did the ##778 dun edit and got tethering and hotspot working.....but it was super slow.

I tested it against pdanet and pdanet blew tethering and hotspot speed away.

Is anyone else seeing that slowness?

Rod
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UgXvibe:
Those iPhone guys must have been stoked to get away from AT&T for that little bit :)
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Aesir Rising:
How did you isolate Verizon's 3G network variations and your local browser and/or system cache from the test?

If PDAnet can speed up Verizon's network, that would be newsworthy. They'd make money hand over fist, if they could do that. I'd buy it.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] samwathegreat:
I'm running cyanogenmod and my hotspot is way fast. About 2 megabits. Before, using wifi tether app, I usually got around 800kbps. Could be a fluke? I'm loving the speed though.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UgXvibe:
Am I supposed to save the settings somehow? Cause I deleted the 'dun' and when I try to connect to the internet through my phone I get this page --> https://dunsp.vzw.com/selfProvisioning/SelfProvisioningServlet

Edit: NM, I only did half of what I was supposed to do.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ed Zachary:
@zrxoa1,

Look at the last paragraph of your post from Sept 2.

I believe that is your answer.

VZW's 3G capabilities are, shall we say, not ready for prime time.

Email (not sms or mms, but email) on my phone works about half the time. Sometimes it can connect and download with no problems at all. Other times it returns a dialog that says that it could not connect or that the user ID and password were invalid. Then, a couple minutes later, everything is working again!

They have gone on the cheap and, instead of putting up towers of their own, rent bandwidth on other carriers' towers. And guess which carriers' traffic gets dropped in those situations? I have often been within a quarter mile of a tower, line of sight, and had calls and data transmissions dropped with an accomanying dialog that says that the signal faded.

To paraphrase VZW's ad: It's the [expletive deleted] network!
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zrxoa1:
OK, I have finally figured it out.... it is MY laptop. Both my boys laptops conected to my hotspot and were able to surf. My laptop connects, but for some reason I cannot surf. Any ideas what setings I need to change? I NEVER have ANY problems connecting to wifi at hotels and such.

I did note that the one boy's laptop, running Windows 7 showed connected, but no internet.... but after a few minutes the message popped up that it now had internet connection. The other laptop that connected no problem was running Vista. MY laptop uses XP...

Something in MY settings is causing the problem. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] patches152:
if VZW/s 3G isn't "ready for prime time", then who's is?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zrxoa1:
I got it figured out. I had to go into my network connections and check a box to "allow programs to use this connection"...
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Grizzly420:
any one else ##778 now redirects your call. Bumer:(
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] boomertwo:
Still works on my phone. Do you have one of those new SLCD phones?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Div033:
After using both, I like the 3G Mobile Hotspot app over Wireless Tether. I always lose connection on wireless tether after a short time and have to restart it frequently. So far, 3G Mobile Hotspots doesn't exhibit this behavior.

Sent from my Droid Incredible using the XDA app.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ktmdavid229:
##778# works, 000000 is the password
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MotoDj:
i dont see "m.id"

mine says "s.id"

anyone know whats up with that?

hehe, thanks

i changed it, but i wanna make sure its right before i try to tether my ps3
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alelogman:
What is the full form of SLCD? what does that S stand for?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Adam_NCNN:
Super.

:P
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Adam_NCNN:
Where did you get the 3G Mobile Hotspot on SR 3.3?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BCB729:
##78 hack worked for me too!!!!!!! PERFECT!!
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Franknbeans1:
I've tried many combinations of

##778

##778#

##78

and none work.

anyone else recently get this working?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Franknbeans1:
bump???:confused::confused::confused::confused:
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Blaylox:
Just did it this morning and it works great!
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Franknbeans1:
the ##778 worked on your phone? Mine doesn't even recognize the number. . . when I hit send, it just goes back to the dial screen.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Blaylox:
Yep

Worked great

I am rooted if that matters...?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] treetop777:
Same problem here, all those ##778 combinations actually dial the number which returns a error message.

Just got this DROID-X of ebay

System version is 2.3.15.MB810

Android version

2.2

Any other way to do it?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bldkcstark:
3G mobile hotspot costs money, and wireless tether doesn't.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Blaylox:
Well I just did it on Saturday and it is working well (if 500k is well).

like i said I am rooted 2.2 Dinc

baseband 2.15.00.07.28

kern 2.6.32.15-gb7b01d1

build 3.21.605.1

wish i could help-
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zrxoa1:
I think the ##778 only works on the Incredible. I cannot get it to work on friends Ally either...
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gahh Its Lee:
Yea its only forbyhe incredible I believe other phones have a different number to dial
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] madman34:
correct about ##778

That string is used by HTC to invoke the epst app, it will be different on moto and others.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sincitynative1:
yup look up free 3g infrastructure mode hotspot here in the forums.....well deserved props to team blackhat I believe :-)
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mahsan988:
##778 dials out on my phone, I am rooted and running Incredibly Re-engineered.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dhawalsinha:
I tried #778 but it just dials and tells me that your call can not be completed.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gahh Its Lee:
YOu on a sense rom? On aosp roms it wont work and also you need the stock dialer.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jackdup:
can't reset password after Dun hack

I did ##778 and removed DUN from the 2 places this thread specifies. Committed modification. rebooted (multiple times). And the hotspot turns on and stays on now, but he SSID is HTC WIRLESS and there is a password on it. Problem is, when I try to access Hotspot Settings in 'wireless settings' everything force closes. Well, at least the setting app force closes, so I cannot enter the settings of the hotspot to change the SSID and/or password?

Any advice or similar issue?

Thx

This is for my wife's Dinc unrevoked, 2.2
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pcarney1984:
Wifi

I had done the dun mod ##778 previously and was able to have wifi and 3g hotspot turned on at the same time. I had to reset my phone and when I redid the ##778 dun mod I am able to connect my laptop, however I can't turn on the wifi on the phone and the 3g hotspot. If I turn one on the other turns off. This didn't happen before. I know it's kind of silly because it defeats the purpose of using the hotspot when I can connect through wifi, I just found it odd that it won't do it anymore. Anyone else have this issue? Or have a possible solution?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] patches152:
my understanding is that you CAN NOT have both enabled. enabling one will by rule disable the other, since it's the same chipset and radio used by both. i've never heard of both working at once, or seen anything on my phone or any other that would allow this. maybe it disabled the other and you didn't realize it? idk how to explain how that worked if it did, but i don't think you'll ever get it back.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ecatapano:
Just did the hack this morning on my Dinc2 and seemed to work just fine when I connected with my G-tablet. Only thing I noticed is the warring message saying I needed to have 3G hotspot from Verizon to use the services. I am guessing this is just a generic message that comes up every time with or without the hack? Is that correct or should I expect some crazy charge on my bill next month?