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[XPERIA X10 General] ddewbofh:
For everyone who's whining about the X10 shipping with 1.6. Didn't you do your research beforehand? And when the release of the 2.1 update is being pushed forward from Q4 to Q3 you people

still

have the nerve to complain and call them lazy, uncaring of their customers and so on.

I'm pretty sure the heads of SE didn't hold a gun to your head and forced you to buy the X10. It's been well supported since the release, we've had plenty of updates fixing various thing so nagging about bad support doesn't really fly either.

What it all boils down to is that some people made uninformed decisions when getting this phone and are now getting jealous of other handsets getting Eclair and Froyo. To them I say: "It's your own fault, deal with it or get another phone and leave us alone".
[XPERIA X10 General] bushbox browser:
Remember some of us got our phones ages ago. When I got the phone SE said 2.1 would be coming soon after launch, so I trusted SE and got burned, it's my own fault, but only for trusting SE.

Also SE never really moved the date forward, first announcement said September, then they said Q4, then September again, so they actually only decided not to delay longer.
[XPERIA X10 General] nizaamh:
My X10 CAN TRACE THIS GUY... go into his workplace and whack him.... my X10 cant come back tho.....

X10 NO!! COME BACK...

HE came back ....whew
[XPERIA X10 General] ddewbofh:
Ok, two points.

1. Q3 is after launch and from what I've seen SE didn't say how long after the launch the update would come. So while I can understand your frustration it's still a silly thing to get worked up over.

2. Even if SE originally planned for an update in Q3 which got pushed back to Q4 the change back to Q3 is still a push forward. Besides, slippage like that happens all the time and I seriously doubt that they wanted the delay to begin with. So the fact that they managed to get their act together for a Q3 delivery is still a good thing.

PS 5 months hardly qualifies as "ages", it's a while but not unusually long. This situation is not entirely unlike when I had my HTC Magic and it took nine months for an update that finally added Sense.
[XPERIA X10 General] bushbox browser:
1. They said "SOON" after launch, 6 months is not soon in phone world. Not getting worked up just making a point, getting a galaxy s next week anyway ;-)

2. True

Look, I am not saying the phone is bad, I know people like it 1.6 or not, but the reality is SE are behind and the X10 is there flagship phone. I cannot trust them again, simple as that.
[XPERIA X10 General] ddewbofh:
Not beat a dead horse, but I can't for the life of me find anything from SE saying that the update will come soon. Apart from the later updates with the Q3-Q4 dates the only official statement I've found from SE is that it's coming "later". Sorting through both press releases, official blogs and so on say the same thing. Do you have a link to where they say "soon"?

Not trying to discredit you or anything, I'm just curious. It seems like the official material is purposely vague when it comes to dates. :)
[XPERIA X10 General] bushbox browser:
It was actually before the official announcements etc, will have a look and get back to you.
[XPERIA X10 General] Basharca:
Dude I totally understand where your coming from, and you really have a point!

But don't you think that SE are really trying to be unique and different by making their own UI and so on, I know that other manufactures also have their own UI, But I never observed one that was as good as the X10.

By the way my friend, if SE were too lazy, why did they produce 2 updates after the original software version? Don't this mean that they are working hard? For example, other companies like samsung, never release any updates for their devices because they are busy making new phones, all they do is wait for the original os company to upgrade their software and then they insert it in their devices.

My point is that blaming se for being lazy is kind of unfair. Because I believe that SE just wants to be different and not follow others. And since 2.1 will be coming soon, why all the complaining? I'm sure 2.1 with sony will be much better than 2.1 with others handsets, the same way that 1.6 with sony was as good as 2.0 on other phones.

I totally respect that your getting a samsung galaxy s, but it's too bad that your leaving the great potential of the X10 just because you can't wait a little longer. Also, keep in mind that the looks and built material of the galaxy s is not even close to the X10.

Anyway, wish you all the best man :)

Best wishes :)
[XPERIA X10 General] Basharca:
Well said mate ! God bless you :)

People should have full responsibility for their actions instead of complaining all the time.

Patience is a virtue! And since 1.6 is running more than great than I'm fine with it. If 1.6 was really bad, and SE didn't put any effort to release any update after the original software version this would be another story, but fortunately that's not the case my friends.

Peace!
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
Actually, here in Japan, the newest Android handsets that were released LAST WEEK run Android 1.6.

There's only one phone being sold with 2.1, the Desire, and it's a huge flop. Consumers don't care about version numbers, they care about what a phone can do for them at the time of purchase.
[XPERIA X10 General] bushbox browser:
Probably I am being a bit unfair, I see your point.

Your right about galaxy s not being a patch on x10 for hardware, I still believe that the x10 is the best android phone hardware wise. Ow well.

Not found anything about 2.1 coming soon after lunch. I did read it but must have not been official (that will teach me), so at least SE did not lie :)
[XPERIA X10 General] qwer23:
That's a point I just wanted to bring into the discussion. Why is everyone so focused on the version number? Please tell me what function you miss in x10 that is version related.

- apps2sd? SE brought in an internal memory of 1GB, so you don't really need that. besides there's a app for that too ;)

- wifi tethering? well, that would be a point for some of you (not for me, i don't use wifi at all), but i think i read that there's an app for 1.6?

- Flash support? yepp, that's a hit i have to take :/ but it's a feature of 2.2 that SE never announced. so no whining about that.

- multitouch? has nothing to do only with version, but also with the screen and you could've known before you bought the phone.

- more RAM? another one i gotta take, but i never ran out of RAM and my phone never lagged.

- HD video? you're lucky to even get it with x10, it wasn't announced as a feature when you bought the phone, and not nearly all 2.1/2.2 phones have it.

- speed improvements? where do you need them since firmware 026? even psx emulators are running totally smooth. just for the bigger benchmarks? pfffff....

so please tell me, WHY are you blaming SE for using 1.6 with a really good customized UI? I'm not missing anything in that phone at all. It was made for people who want to be "always on", to merge and manage social networks, and the UI does this really great, you can't deny that.
[XPERIA X10 General] Basharca:
First of all, I really appreciate your kind words and polite manners :)

It's really great to see such gentle men even though you disagree with them. Anyway, Isn't there any chance to wait for the 2.1 upgrade for X10, and if you don't like it go for the galaxy s?

I mean since me and you know how good looking the X10 is and how brilliant the hardware is on this device.

Or have you already paid for the Galaxy S :) ?

Either way wish you all the best dude,
[XPERIA X10 General] jimsey:
not a yoghurt or sweet fan, I'm gonna be *****in at SE until i get a full meal from my android which provides me with my 5 a day !

good twine!
[XPERIA X10 General] gavriel18:
Your mom. :p

Lol sorry. i had to...
[XPERIA X10 General] njfpolyr6:
the dell 5-in Multi-Touch streak is out in US market today, and it runs 1.6 as well....so i dun think the version is really matter. Also I dun think ilead is blaming at the x10. everyone knows it comes with 1.6 at the time of purchase....i agree with what ilead said that people are looking at functionalities and qualities...but somehow some ppl just dun think it is enough. Like ilead said, once you have 2.1 on your x10, ppl starts whining for 2.2....3.0 etc...(although someone said that 2.2 is the last version of android as the hardware wont support further version)

I am happy with this phone....at least this one is female magnet at the pub....:D:D:D:D:D:D

about the flash thing....i got the adobe flash apk somewhere in this forum and it works fine! :p
[XPERIA X10 General] gr00vy0ne:
I will admit that the latest new Google apps for bookmark synching and extended voice control are some reasons why I'd like to get the upgrade. Increasingly, a lot of the more innovative apps are being released for 2.x only. It would be nice to tap into this growing library of apps to get even more out of my phone.

I already have a few I'd like to use and have them on my AppBrain wishlist so I can install when we finally get an update. Boo on fragmentation. At least in some cases there are some alternatives but even those are decreasing since they're help back by deprecated APIs or missing functionality.
[XPERIA X10 General] consolation:
no chrome sync, so no bookmark sync

The most annoying thing for me; no proper support for WPA Enterprise (radius server) wireless networks. Specifically, you can't assign a different proxy profile to each different wireless networks. Real PITA for me as I use different ones for work and university. It's a bit ridiculous android missing this tbh, iOS had it from version 1 and it's such a standard feature in most large organizations; this, skype and instapaper are the only things I really miss from my iPhone...

Edit/ Oh, ffs, google still haven't fixed this in 2.2... Maybe less time spend tarting up the UI and more spent on core networking features?

/facepalm
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
Sync bookmarks: http://www.gettransmute.com/android/

That took a 3 second Google search. If you're going to complain about things, save it for things that actually can't be fixed easily, like the WPA thing.

And Skype? Look at Nimbuzz. Does the same thing, and even lets you use Skype-out. Skype's official Android client is garbage anyway.
[XPERIA X10 General] mezo9090:
I just want the 2.1 market applications...

sent from my x10i that is banging for a 2.1 upgrade. ...
[XPERIA X10 General] johndub71:
doesnt wipe your arse when youve took a **** either... am disgusted, think i'll buy a nokia lol
[XPERIA X10 General] Mano1982:
Lolz :D Yeah, Nokia does this better :p
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
I'm hearing that HTC is pushing an update for the Desire that let's you do this...

DAMN YOU HTC.
[XPERIA X10 General] realunited123:
Keep the other threads on topic... 92.1+ does that very well ..
[XPERIA X10 General] blaze16:
I think I can speak for all of us when I say that we've been blessed with Android and are lucky to have invested in it. There's only so much that a device can give or take away from the experience. All in all, the X10 is a solid phone, obviously having its shortcomings. But you will be hard-pressed to find a phone that doesn't.

In my opinion, a phone that has similar functionality to a laptop AND lasts that long is quite the accomplishment. We have to look at the positives. We should look at it like this: SE's first Android phone wasn't a flop, and to be mentioned among the top sellers should account for something, right?

This thread is refreshing, since it asks us: what the hell are we really expecting from our phones?

Anyways, enough of the that melodramatic crap; I wanted to share this link that I posted before on this forum but thought it was be appropriate here as well.

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1938961

I hope you guys get a kick out of it. :)
[XPERIA X10 General] johndub71:
turtle race and katy perry rip cheese is good too. Good find!

no, predators teenage son lol
[XPERIA X10 General] k1sr:
No, good work - needed someone to get back on track what this thread is really about...

Whingers, please start your own thread, and get off this one...
[XPERIA X10 General] Bennachie:
Mine can't swim..............................;)
[XPERIA X10 General] Mano1982:
Really? Root your phone then :P Coz mine can swim & it's rooted ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] PollPixx:
Now it is rooted mine can drop down from the 14th floor (once), but it still can't be used as a dressing on my salad, I wish it was more liquid.

That being said I am happy with the latest breastfeeding widget, the nipple is kind of small, but after a few hours practising, I have my lunch always with me. Try the " strawberry" theme for this widget!
[XPERIA X10 General] Mano1982:
You can even choose whos breasts you wanna be feeded from in Android 2.2. You can choose Britney Spears, Shakira, Angelina Jolie or who ever you want. ****, Android 1.6 can't do that :(
[XPERIA X10 General] Bennachie:
Mano, if yours can swim its probably a white one. :eek:
[XPERIA X10 General] Mano1982:
Nah, I've black one :eek:
[XPERIA X10 General] ANZAC:
If only you could have the answer phone speak with an Australian accent! ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] ANZAC:
:confused:

if you're using your laptop 2 wipe your arse, no wonder it's broken ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] mrtim123:
1.6 has let me down again. I installed the ironmyshirt app, but it wont run on anything under 2.1

damn you droid!!
[XPERIA X10 General] gavriel18:
Lol no I expect it to fix my laptop while simultaneously wiping my ass. My iPhone does that. :p
[XPERIA X10 General] hoss_n2:
iam using the android 2.2 froyo on my hd2 and it is in terms of speed and functionallity better allot than 1.6 and the market has allot of apps that are not avaliable for 1.6 , x10 really needs to be upgraded
[XPERIA X10 General] poundcake7:
I just watched the google presentation on google voice with voice action and chrome to phone and all I could think was I can't wait until my x10 has that functionality.. Go devs go!!
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
Get out of this thread if you're going to ***** seriously. There's at least 7,004 threads on it.

This is a thread where we can look at people like you and shake our heads.
[XPERIA X10 General] wtgwctml:
love the post!!:)
[XPERIA X10 General] k1sr:
Worst thing about 1.6 is it can't insert a sense of humour into the "Where's-My-Froyo" users...

I'm going to write Sony a letter, damn it!

Although, it is possible to suck on 1.6 like a dummy/pacifier, until Q4 arrives ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] azian_advanced:
this thread made me crack! :D
[XPERIA X10 General] k1sr:
Rememer when we all thought Vista had to be better than XP...? ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] borelis:
I didnt get a ZPM whit mine! So no jumping trough wormholes in space. Damn that Droid. Also it wont mate with C3PO
[XPERIA X10 General] PollPixx:
I do like the new mother in law alarm widget... If she is closer than half a mile to my home the telephone is playing "angel of death"... Time enough to hide in the basement! just perfect!
[XPERIA X10 General] hoss_n2:
why flaming you are really selfish i also have x10 not only hd2 that is why i post here and i don't see any thing wrong with what i said , every one knows that froyo is 4x more faster than 2.1 so what about 1.6 and allot of apps are not avaliable for 1.6 only 2.1 and 2.2
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
The point I'm trying to make is, in this thread, no one cares about who's version number is bigger or smaller.

If you can't see how ridiculous it is for people to be hung up on a number, you need to readjust your priorities. Yes, everyone knows 2.2 is faster. Yes, everyone knows that there are apps that don't support 1.6. Letting that rule your world just makes you seem sad.

There's a million threads out there dedicated to "AUGHAGAHHHHH FROYOOOIUGHADFS~", where only the most immature conversation is being held. Don't expect to be taken seriously in a joke thread.
[XPERIA X10 General] PollPixx:
What he meant was there are several other topics you can complain about serious things, this topic is opened for a good laugh.

What you are doing is the same when you would say there is a great party tomorrow on a funeral topic. Nobody will understand why you post it in that specific topic eventhough the information is correct:D

Edit: posted one minute to late haha...
[XPERIA X10 General] Mano1982:
If you had Android 2.2, You would not have been late :rolleyes:
[XPERIA X10 General] PollPixx:
;-) true, than I would have the new automatic "types-what-you-think-keyboard"....much quicker!
[XPERIA X10 General] Mano1982:
Thats why i just hate SE, They should have released 2.2 in January 2010 as a new year girl. Ufff This is my last SE phone, I'll buy a iPhone 4 which has Android 2.2 :o
[XPERIA X10 General] ANZAC:
2.2 allows the X10 to score and then skin up for you
[XPERIA X10 General] deejaylamb0:
Not to worry, sir. This I have solved. Since the android 1.6 doesn't interface with the Delorean stock inputs, you have to stand on an object such as a porch or dumpster and lob your X10a/i as high as you can... it will reach 88 MPH about .72 seconds before it hits the ground!!!

So you'll be warped automatically to

(1) The date on your phone [presuming you set one]

-or-

(2) Ebay to buy another X10 since yours didn't reach 88 but rather the ground... 87MPH = FAIL :p ......

Example: How reaching 87 only lets you down.

:D
[XPERIA X10 General] PartyVirginX10:
neither can we use skype, that was just released for android 2.1.
[XPERIA X10 General] kloud_:
iP4 wid FroYo.. LoL...!! :D
[XPERIA X10 General] johndub71:
It can't pour the perfect pint either. Useless lol
[XPERIA X10 General] _calum_:
Dunno what you're on about mate. I just got a pint of guinness out of mine - perfect double-pour! (it is a black one tho...)
[XPERIA X10 General] johndub71:
Explains it.... lager and ales are blonde....
[XPERIA X10 General] _calum_:
Man, I didn't believe you at first, but I just tried to get a lager out of it and it was a shocker... Luke-warm and no head whatsoever... felt like I was back in blighty ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] alankstiyo:
did you already say satisfy our needs of more?

oh forgot to add

it can toast your bread in HD
[XPERIA X10 General] olly230:
Doesn't the SE approved version of froyo come with an Ipad emulator? At least that is what the development model leaked in to my mind directly as a memory engram over 4g.

Seriously though, I do hope they hurry up, the 1.6 fellating app is awful.
[XPERIA X10 General] gavriel18:
If I got the update I wouldn't be stranded in Mexico right now. :-(
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
Don't drink the water.... that's what a phone with 2.1 would warn you about!

1.6, letting people drink water since 2009.
[XPERIA X10 General] alankstiyo:
yeah it'd say save water drink alcohol xD
[XPERIA X10 General] angelahp:
I think i have the lurgy. I wouldn't have caught it if i'd have had 2.1 - can i sue ??)
[XPERIA X10 General] loneLEE:
Well, I'm quite sad that 1.6 can't do these yet -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elufODBUmNU&p=ECD6C921B5229237&playnext=1&index=20

:(
[XPERIA X10 General] alankstiyo:
is that a power ranger mixed with digimon? o.0
[XPERIA X10 General] loneLEE:
They are Masked Riders.
[XPERIA X10 General] alankstiyo:
was sacasm

prefer to drive my car with my phone but 1.6 can't!!!!
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
Well I was bored so i made a poll to see what people think:

http://snappoll.com/poll/344619.php

(And I'm posting in this thread because I like seeing it on the front page)
[TG01 General] dave55:
Hi

Got myself a 16gb card, and now its driving me mad by going to sleep so when i launch programs from it they hang and the coloured ring just spins for a few minutes. when im in a rush its a battery out job and reset..any idea's

Cheers Dave
[TG01 General] mruka:
You can try advanced config tool. Or you can try diff sd card.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Michga:
Hi, can anyone make rom with Sense? or make a guide how to do that..

Because when im trying copy a Sense .apk (about 6 months ago) and port it to new rom.. and when i runned Sense.apk instal said something as that cant be installed..

and one smallness.. it must be 320x240 :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] milanche:
Can you supply me with Sense.apk, you're trying to install.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Michga:
heh.. i cant find it... Better Question will be how to add sense to froyo..

:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] FlanFlinger:
There's a dump of the "Wildfire" rom kicking around on here somewhere
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xsxn:
I need froyo with sense also badly...

Kick!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xsxn:
Is there no one else that likes HTC sense? I would cook my own rom if i was able to do so. Is there some documentation for this. I have searched the forums...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] sethman80:
Well I like the "Sense" too, so I hope to see something like it soon.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xsxn:
There seems no mutch anymo. Strange, because the ui comes with such good aps..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
For Sense UI you may wish to take a look at a few of the G1 hero ports, although all of those I have found have a few things not working, and the build sizes are around 110-130MB which is too big for normal kaiser installations.

I'd love to see a Sense port too, just for the sake of completeness, we've had just about everything else :)

(What I'd really love to see is a basic guide to porting for kaiser, since my own attempts seem to end in failure ;) )
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] jonidroid:
I installed froyo and samset 2.0 now my apps/games srent working when i open app phone just vibrates few times and app quits, whats the problem?
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Elvoski:
I too have this problem. Does yours do it when you switch off? My back button and menu light stays on and the vibrates a few times then switches off.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] jonidroid:
Same, first black screen then it vibrates and switch off but some apps are working like xda app. ..
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Elvoski:
Now my computer has stopped recognising my SGS. cannot reinstall..
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KriXou:
did you wipe before 2.2 ? and then before restoring 2.1 ?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nasimdejai:
yes,i think i must have done that.was that a big mistake?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djoni1980:
OMG, do you have any idea what were you doing?

You opened like 10 same threads, but you don't tell us anything, which rom, A2SD or not, Froyo app2sd or not, ext partition or not, exact procedure that you used...

What's wrong with 3,66 GB on sd card, that's usual amount of space for 4 gig sd cards... Do you have some sort of error with sd (cannot be mounted, mounted as read only...)? YOU NEED TO BE MORE SPECIFIC.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jamesmcuk:
flashing does not take up space on the SD Card. The only time this is different is when you are trying to update the phone manually by copying the update files to the SD. If you set the phone to be usable as a disk drive when connected and then copy a file to it I think you will find the free space of the SD Card alters. You can't copy directly to the phone memory from windows so I very much doubt you are doing anything wrong. I think you simply misunderstand the situation.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nasimdejai:
Yes,you're right.I got confused when the ROM flash went wrong,i thought the unfortunate action corrupted the sdcard but having restored the original 2.1 ROM,everything was back to the way it was though some files got erased.Luckily for me,i did a backup of the entire sdcard onto my PC before carrying out the custom 2.2 update.So,all i did was copy back the lost files and everything became ok.Thanks for everyone's assistance/explanations.BTW,got the official HTC froyo Over The Air update earlier,installed it and wholla!!!,it worked like a charm and it's still looks stable.