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[Captivate Android Development] kamots:
question. I am on stock rom jf6 with unleash the beast. I am trying to avoid odin , as it makes me nervous. can i do a nand restore to right after I rooted, unroot with the one click root/ un root app and then try this? would that be the same as flashing? again tryng to avoid odin if possible. I know i should get used to odin, but i dont like it. I also know that it may be extra steps but thats ok with me. the whole take sim card and batt out hokey pokey is not something i want to get involved with.
[Captivate Android Development] Kaik541:
if the only difference is root and ROM manager, it sounds like it would work. but definitely unroot beforehand, unless DG has any reason why he thinks this wouldn't work?
[Captivate Android Development] kamots:
wow that was quick! I was still fixing my spelling in the post. thanks you , i will wait to see what designgears has to say. Im just super paranoid about bricking my phone. I did it bricked my droid eris, and that why I have the captivate now. some might see it as a win, but the way verizon acted was unaceptable, so going to another phone company was sort of a " Ill show you" kinda thing. log story short, wife would kill me if I broke this phone lol.
[Captivate Android Development] designgears:
Just flash over, it will be fine. Worst case you would have to restore your nand backup and try from there.

just a precaution ;)

SRE removes previous roots, before it does its stuff.
[Captivate Android Development] Kaik541:
haha, then yeah definitely wait until DG has something to say

but I feel like the absolute WORST case scenario is that if you restore, then unroot, then update... if it SOMEHOW messes up (since this doesn't touch the bootloaders to the best of my knowledge) you'll still have access to download mode so as to reflash with Odin.

All this does is add a new kernel, which doesn't impact the secondary bootloader where download mode is held (please correct me if I'm wrong, anyone). Honestly though, my best advice would be to use either the one-click or go to JH3 (which has been nothing but happy days for me) and run the update from there.

Either way, don't get freaked out when you see the red text where it flashes the kernel (was terrifying when I first saw it).
[Captivate Android Development] Rhiannon224:
What's with all the ads, I never had those before?
[Captivate Android Development] designgears:
hosed hosts file, not sure whats up with it
[Captivate Android Development] warri:
I flashed directly over Unleash the Beast .2 (had mostly everything in SRE already applied minus the Kernal and OC, (had done everything seperately)) i just made a nand backup and then flashed over, everything went smoothly!

Thanks DG for this awesome All-in-One... Now all we need is for someone to get cracking on CM6 or another Captivate Froyo Custom ROM!
[Captivate Android Development] Rhiannon224:
Damn it, I was using the same and flashed with Odin cause DG loves to start from stock, if I knew it was that easy I would flashed right over and saved an hour of pain in the ass recovery screen nonsense. Not to be ungreatful but what happenned to the cool battery indicator? Gonna go mess with that now.

One final noob question since this is not a stock kernal will we have to flash with Odin back to stock when and if we ever get the most coveted Froyo update?
[Captivate Android Development] kamots:
just flash over, it will be fine. Worst case you would have to restore your nand backup and try from there.

ok so just update.zip and then re install packages from stock recovery? I dont even need my steps? see, thats why I like you guys! you make it so simple thank you:D
[Captivate Android Development] designgears:
When the froyo rom comes out it will wipe out everything! We can't do anything with CM6 yet, no Froyo kernel.

Yup, that easy :P
[Captivate Android Development] bird333:
Has the Mobile AP without kernal flash been done?
[Captivate Android Development] Rhiannon224:
Running a Nandroid backup of your ROM DG, great work. Pretty snappy without a lag fix. I'm guessing Ryan's one click will be okay with this. I am a noob and I am not at all comfortable even trying to parition my sd. I just don't like that I don't have an option for how much space it paritions, worst case I can undo it.
[Captivate Android Development] Pmac25:
Thank you!
[Captivate Android Development] designgears:
Ryan's lag fix works the best IMHO

sure had

you are welcome!
[Captivate Android Development] DJGonzo:
SRE Rocks!

No more problems!!!

Can we get a changelog tho? Thanks!!
[Captivate Android Development] techmik67:
I am a little confused. Does a nandroid backup REPLACE titanium? Or Do I need both?
[Captivate Android Development] bird333:
Has it been released yet? Just to be clear, I am talking about where you don't have to type in the command on the shell.
[Captivate Android Development] s1l3nt:
this works great with the ryan lag fix thanks again for making an awesome rom :)
[Captivate Android Development] smurfgod:
So all I do is flash to stock and then flash the update.zip and I'm done?? Sideloading done?? Root??
[Captivate Android Development] Kaik541:
if you're running bugless beast, according to DG and a couple earlier reports (literally one page before) you can just flash over by putting update.zip and you should be fine.

Personally, I always prefer flashing back to a stock build first but that's just me
[Captivate Android Development] smurfgod:
I saw that post but really wasen't sure if I was reading it right. Thanks for the info and will be flashing to stock in a bit and then using this. And if your interested, I'm doing this to see if it fixes my random shut downs...Those suck.
[Captivate Android Development] daverup:
Here is my understanding,

Titanium Backup, is for Apps and Settings. Restorable to Different Roms, but doesn't restore the OS.

Nandroid is the older version of ROM backup, can Save and Restore the entire phone, apps and all. If you restore, you get the backed up ROM version and apps as they were.

Rom Manager is the newer, easier to use method of doing entire ROM backup, like nandroid.

Therefore you need both, a way to restore entire ROMs, in case you don't like what you flash. You also need TItanium to restore your Apps and Settings to new ROMs that you do like.
[Captivate Android Development] Rhiannon224:
Holy ****

Okay, I just installed Ryans one click lagfix with this and I ran a Quadrant test and my phone is running 2659. Wow, this is insane. Now if I could only get this damn phone into recovery mode so that I can have the cool battery indicator I had before. No offense DG, but this battery indicator sucks compared to the other ones you did. I have it on the root of my phone as an update.zip but this phone does not like to boot into recovery. I wish there was another way to boot into recovery. I know tyhere is s reason it won't work with ClockworkMod putting the phone into recovery. Gonna keep trying though. That's only thing I miss.
[Captivate Android Development] kamots:
I took the advice and flashed this over unleash the beast, and it worked fine! Not even a hickup. It was so easy and fast, i didnt think it worked at first. Thank you again! So far it works like a charm! How do i see where the overclock is? Do i need to download the overclock app from the market? I guess im asking if it says somewhere on my phone that its overclocked.
[Captivate Android Development] techmik67:
I think I see. If I screw up and restore my nandroid, ALL will be returned.

If I go to a NEW rom, I need Titanium to replace my programs, but not in case 1. Nandroid restores progams. Doens't install.
[Captivate Android Development] Rhiannon224:
On the market, Quadrant Standard.
[Captivate Android Development] Kaik541:
it's overclocked by default, but you can download the app to control it from the market (SetCPU)
[Captivate Android Development] Rhiannon224:
Actually the CPU ussage isn't an issue, I hate Set CPU makes the lag on the phone very apparent. I ordered 2 generic batteries for the phone with a battery charger off E-Bay $10 and free shipping. I plan to carry spares, I'll sacrifice battery life for this type of performance. I did a CPU check and I am running way better than before.
[Captivate Android Development] hatebreeder209:
sorry for the noob question but how do i remove the 1.2 kernel and revert back to stock
[Captivate Android Development] Kaik541:
out of curiosity, why would you want to?

it's far simpler to just use setCPU and tell it not to clock past 1.0 GHz. If you revert to stock, you lose a lot of the niceities of this ROM/tool (like mobile access point)... it'd be easier to revert to a stock JH3 and use unleash the beast if you don't want the features of this ROM

two simple options:

limit clock speed to 1 GHz

flash to a stock ROM and use other tools
[Captivate Android Development] Rhiannon224:
If you did a backup with ClockworkMod you can use that. Otherwise use Odin 1 click. You must follow the directions and do all of the steps in their correct order and it works like a charm. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=731989 make sure you download and install the drivers that are on that page. They are the correct ones to use with Odin.

Do you still want to be rooted?
[Captivate Android Development] hatebreeder209:
o sorry lol i didnt realize what i had typed.. i just want the speed to be back at 1.0 since 1.2 drains my battery faster ... i was assuming that i would need to change the kernel to stock
[Captivate Android Development] smurfgod:
ummmm....it says my batteries fixing to die...Normal?? It was almost fully charged before I flashed it. And I flashed over The Beast as well. All seems fine except that.

Time to change my sig to make it reflect..lol

Thanks
[Captivate Android Development] psxstudio:
quick Q... i've just installed SRE 1.2.1a last night and when I do:

adb shell

su

I get permission denied...

and dont get the #. Any ideas why? Prior to this, I was running SR not extreme version.
[Captivate Android Development] jaredc74:
You need to allow su access on the phone after you issue the command from adb. Look at the phone for the prompt after you hit enter.
[Captivate Android Development] kamots:
Ahhh ok thank you. Also, i notice that after about 2 1/2 hrs of light to mod use, my batt has gone down 30%. Is that pretty much par with the overclock?
[Captivate Android Development] psxstudio:
LOL! I guess I didn't see the msg on my phone since the display was on sleep. Thanx.
[Captivate Android Development] WickedStyx:
Thanks for the awesome work. I managed to restore the stock Samsung apps back from removed-app.zip but can't get any of the Samsung widgets to work other than dual clock. I've tried copying the apk's to /system/app and /data/app without luck.

Any ideas? If I flash back to stock rom and extract the .apk and .odex files for the widgets will these do the trick?
[Captivate Android Development] AllTheWay:
I don't get this kind of battery drain on the stock ROM. I use JuiceDefender on both my HD2 running android and the Samsung Captivate to conserve battery life. Here is the link to the market.
[Captivate Android Development] Kaik541:
DG

do you think you might ever include de-odexing the ROM as part of the process? (assuming that's even possible to be run across 3 potential base ROMs)
[Captivate Android Development] designgears:
Won't do it, things that are odex run faster! I think...
[Captivate Android Development] madjsp:
I created a nandroid backup of my stock flash with only a root, just in case i need to revert back.

What is the difference between deoxed and what you said?
[Captivate Android Development] kamots:
Right on! Thank you
[Captivate Android Development] Jeepsdaddy:
I downloaded the removed apps however when I try to install. It tells me it cannot install. How can I get it to work. I'd like to have the samsung widgets.

Please advise.
[Captivate Android Development] omriasta:
Removed apps

was not able to restore most of the apps as well. Memo.apk was fine, feedsand updates widget stayed but can't get BuddiesNow.apk widget back

Just says Application was not installed. Tried Titanium Backup but that didn't let me restore either
[Captivate Android Development] mfriedman79:
I was able to re-install a couple of the removed apps by moving the APK's to my dropbox account and then downloading them on the phone and they went and installed normally.
[Captivate Android Development] techmik67:
Didn't work for me.... still can't get media hub back.

So, since this v1.2.1a seems to be going perfectly, what are you working on now, Designgears =)? Can't wait to try it.....
[Captivate Android Development] omriasta:
Still now way to get back apps

Still not able to get the BuddiesNow.apk back

I have tried copying the apk and odex back to /system/app

I have tried removing from Manage Applications and then reinstalling

I have tried Downloading the apk from the internet.

Anybody have any ideas?
[Captivate Android Development] jhernand1102:
Here's an idea...restore to stock and then use titanium backup to remove the apps you don't want...Then you can redo what ever other fixes you have done...All the fixes in SRE can be done using the original files created by the OP's...SRE just packages them all together to make one easy install...
[Captivate Android Development] omriasta:
BuddiesNow.apk

I am actually trying to bring back BuddiesNow.apk I have it installed as it is in stock but no matter what I try I can't reinstall it after SRE.

I just tried to remove it before SRE using titanium and restore after but that didn't work either.
[Captivate Android Development] jhernand1102:
Yes titanium won't restore system app's ...anything that can preinstalled in the ROM it wont' be able to restore..
[Captivate Android Development] kamots:
Alright so I think I messed something up. I did a factory reset and lost the ability to side load. So, I did a nand restore and then flashed this again, and I lost the 1.7 busy box. Is there a way to get it back? For some reason after the flash I m on 1.6
[Captivate Android Development] omriasta:
BuddiesNow.apk

One thing I noticed was that the apps need to be deleted from Manage Applications before you can reinstall the apk. For instance the Memo.apk can't be installed until you remove it from Manage Applications, it fails the same way.

Maybe there is something I am missing when removing the BuddiesNow/DailyBriefing app?

I think that the Buddies app is listed as com.sec.android.widgetapp.buddie..... or something...
[Captivate Android Development] dontshakepandas:
I got mediahub and memo back just by copying the apk into the system/app folder and then restarting.
[Captivate Android Development] omriasta:
Can you try this with BuddiesNow.apk so I know if it's just me or not.

I was able to get Memo back didn't try media hub....

Thanks!
[Captivate Android Development] dontshakepandas:
Sure, I'll report back.
[Captivate Android Development] techmik67:
I use Linda file manage (free) and it doesnt show anything inside the system folder. You seem to be able to click, but not do anything with it. Do I neet Root Manager instead of Linda?
[Captivate Android Development] omriasta:
I would assume you need some kind of root manager. You cal also try to do this with adb or a terminal emulator if you know the commands
[Captivate Android Development] dontshakepandas:
Couldn't get buddies now to work, but I even if I could I'd never use it since I'd have to use touchwiz. Launcherpro is supposed to have an update with a similar widget soon so that will make it even more irrelevant to me.
[Captivate Android Development] ant1pathy:
I can't paste the APK with Astro into the system/app folder. Is there another app I should be using to do this?
[Captivate Android Development] dontshakepandas:
I use root explorer, and have to make sure it is mounted R/W (not sure if this is an option in Astro since I've never used it.)
[Captivate Android Development] techmik67:
This seems like so much trouble for such a simple thing......

I copy the apk but when i start root manager and go to the folder, there is no option to paste...... feeling like a total noob, here..... I know I'm missing something obvious.....
[Captivate Android Development] techmik67:
I have Root Explorer but don't know how to use it right, obviously, since it seems to only wanna let me work with files once I start it. I tried to copy to the clipboard then open Root, but no paste option. And in Root, I cant get out of the phone directory to get to the sdcard/ where it's stored. Can someone either explain how with adb or what i am doing wrong here?

Thanks much from a noob =)
[Captivate Android Development] flashman2002:
So you are copying the apk to your phone correct? I use appsinstaller for my apk files and it works perfectly. Just make a folder for your apk's on your internal drive and copy them there. Open appsinstaller from the market and it will pop up any apk you have on your phone. TRy it that way.
[Captivate Android Development] Jim_C:
Well, after trying to install this four or five times I am giving up!! For some reason, the

.zip will try to install into a E: drive on my phone, which isn't something I actually have,

but it is a CD-DVD drive on my wife's computer. I have tried this numerous times with

the same result.

At this point, I think I'll just do the mods one at a time, and see if that works.
[Captivate Android Development] clueless captivate:
Tried this but said the installation was block bc non market app, i have the original super rooter....backing up now and trying to flash to new one
[Captivate Android Development] clueless captivate:
flashed over still set phone is set to block non market apps...help!
[Captivate Android Development] techmik67:
I'm no expert, but I'd start at the begining..... yes, all over again....... 2 odins, then Rom Manager, etc, etc....
[Captivate Android Development] clueless captivate:
also setcpu says i am still only at 1000......what am i doing wrong, really don't want to wipe
[Captivate Android Development] jhernand1102:
You are using the stock recovery to do the update.zip right? I don't think it will work through ROM manager...
[Captivate Android Development] designgears:
Hey guys, sorry I haven't been around to answer questions today, been moving all weekend up till today.

For you guys flashing over and it not working, start stock, use stock recovery and you should be good to go.

You guys with APK issues, use cmd line, so much easier then not buying root explorer.

adb push xxxxx.apk /sdcard

ad shell

su

mv /sdcard/xxxxx.apk /system/app

reboot

I have tested all apks in that pack this way, they all work just like that that.
[Captivate Android Development] techmik67:
no matter what i do i cannot use adb....... as soon as i enter the shell i'm screwed. I get the su prompt on my phone but when i issue ANY command after that, a second instance of adb.exe starts in task manager window (windows, not android) and the cmd window freezes.... if i fc the 2nd instance, the cmd window now finds my device as offline.......
[Captivate Android Development] psxstudio:
Do you have the samsung drivers installed? adb cmds are way to go to put the apps in the /system/app.

JB
[Captivate Android Development] denellum:
i loved this. just the battery drain even on a 3rd captivate is too fast, as i surf the internet during my hour break at work i watch the %'s drop down :(

once the overclocking is gone i will return
[Captivate Android Development] Kaik541:
uuhhhh you can disable it? use setCPU to put the maximum to 1 GHz... hell even underclock it if you want... most of our battery drain is going to be from our glorious SAMOLED screens, not the processor
[Captivate Android Development] s1l3nt:
true and a plus you can create profiles in setcpu to save some juice
[Captivate Android Development] techmik67:
NVM..... played around, send stuff to my /sdcard and THEN i was able to manipulate all i wanted with root explorer..... now i gotta make some donations after i get paid this week. =)
[Captivate Android Development] denellum:
hmm well as in every 5-7 minutes seeing a % go down?
[Captivate Android Development] aceman0455:
lost in translation

OK fist let me say I'm VERY new to android and the whole dev world and it's possibilities. So pls forgive me if i'm rough around the edges. I just got a samsung captivate and have been looking around at rooting and over clocking. I finally am ready and want to root, OC, Lag fix, remove bloat wear, and enable side loading. I believe i have found the quickest way with this method. First question will this one file SRE V1.2.1a do all of that? if not what wont it do and if more what else?

Next i loaded Titanium backup and ROM mgr but neither will back up my system bc im not rooted. so second set of questions. do i root first and if so which program is best? also when i tried to flash the clockworkmod it screams at me that im not rooted ( some error about privileged commands) so my previous question stands.

i finally gave up on the backup (not what i wanted to do but i was willing to risk it for now) i downloaded the sre file and renamed it and placed it on the internal sd. went to boot in recovery mode but.... when i hold the Vol up then the home then power i get the att white wash page then nothing. it will keep going black the back to the page and black again. if i let go of power i get the full normal boot sequence. So seeing that im new could someone pls help. I can follow directions and im sure i can do this just need help getting the back up and the reboot down. thanx a head of time. also feel free to respond by email if you'd like aceman0455@yahoo.com. subject CAPTIVATE so i don't delete it.

*UPDATE* well reinstalled my .net and used onetouch root. reran Clockworkmod successful and Titanium back is doing its thing.

let me know if any of these actions need to be undone before installing the SRE PKG
[Captivate Android Development] designgears:
Little update!

Hey guys, so, with all the toubles people have been having, battery life, stock apps, mobileap...

I decided to make four new versions to fill the gaps!

No overclock

Stock apps

Stock apps, no overclock

MobileAP Only

If you want some of the stock apps, but not all, just use titanium backup from the market to remove anything you don't wont.
[Captivate Android Development] WickedStyx:
Thank you! Great timing, I just killed my phone trying to restore an odexed samsung widget to /system/app :P. I'm going to start again with the new version.
[Captivate Android Development] pdmckinn:
The links seem to be broken at the moment :-(
[Captivate Android Development] omriasta:
Yep, I can't get them either.

Update: just went up
[Captivate Android Development] rajendra82:
Early alert for a full lag fix in development for SGS i9000. This is a prime candidate for SRE addition IMO. Just need the developer to either release the source, or compile a Captivate kernel himself.
[Captivate Android Development] designgears:
Unhelpful will get it integrated into his kernel I am sure, if it is a right route to take.
[Captivate Android Development] daverup:
I doubt this new "full lag fix" will be a good idea for SRE. It sounds like a full file system change, and will cause many more issues than the current lagfix.

Most of the SRE problem reports are from lagfix issues. I would think the new "full lag fix" will need to be a complete ROM replacement situation.

Maybe I don't really understand the new "full lag fix", but that's how it looks to me.
[Captivate Android Development] glio1337:
It's a great idea actually. A full filesystem change, rather than a hack that sandwiches itself between an existing one, is going to be much more stable and effective.

And from the developer's posts of his testing, it is a truly seamless operation that will be incredibly easy to use for current and future firmwares.
[Captivate Android Development] ranova:
Awesome thanks!

If I update using MobileAP only, can I use Odin to reflash back to stock kernel if the custom kernel for MobileAP causes me battery drain again?