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[EVO 4G Android Development] felacio:
Thanks King for your time and dedication. I'll give 8 a shot right now. Any news on CFS 8? or will you be releasing a 9th?

And to the guy bitxhing about "people" bitxhing about having. To wipe. What is worse then someone who simply mentioned another kernel.. or you for posting a huge reply about your feelings.

Take a Midol, deal with your PMSing and just chill. Christ.

I totally give props to King for his work and bringing new code and concepts to the Kernel creating sector of this forum. I was simply stating a fact that the current 7 and 8 where not up to par and instead of wiping, reflashing a rom and then the kernel. I could just flash something else. That's not bitxhing or disrespecting.. chill out..

...in 1943, I killed a drifter.
[EVO 4G Android Development] DataDork:
im not pointing to anyone in specific mr midol .. if u feel it was towards you then thats your call. ;)

and i will certainly voice my opinion when people bitxh for no good reason if no one else will.
[EVO 4G Android Development] felacio:
New BFS 8 seems back to normal.

Quadrants are in the 1400's. fs2d is at 52. And linpacks at back to 37.xx

On top of the numbers it feels snappy again. Here is hoping the battery life holds out cause it feels pretty good performance wise.

Again. Thanx for your work King

...in 1943, I killed a drifter.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Tiffany84:
Im currently running freake froyo. I was wondering if anyone new if this would be a good kernel to use with that rom. Its currently running number 5 I think and I really like the rom and the speed is pretty decent but my battery life is awful. I have no idea how to use setup set cpu and was curious if anyone new if this or something else might give me a little better battery without using set cpu. Thank u.
[EVO 4G Android Development] DataDork:
kings kernel is not specific to any custom rom..

im personally running EviO 2 and with no problem..

king, just loaded up bfs8..

first time install crashed, 2nd time everything loaded fine..

gonna tweek it and report back with results in 24-48 hours.

Thanks!
[EVO 4G Android Development] sgt. slaughter:
1) people were *****ing b/c its something never required before on any other kernel made fo this phone by anyone no matter whats added. I agree *****ing isn't the right way to go about it but really think people were just a little confused and wanted more detail other than too many changes were made.

2) Comparing other builds by other people is NOT something I would discourage to be done. If i remember correctly King doesn't have an Evo to test everything out on his own first. So any information that could help him build the best kernel would be helpful. We can't expect the guy to go read all of the pages in the other threads and would be much easier if there was something in another kernel that was performing a little better to just simply mention it here for him to notice and then look into.

Now discussing other kernels flat out in here shouldn't be done but comments like, "I just tried kings X kernel and am getting X issue/response while on netarchy X Im getting B issue" could help out. Or saying "I get this in netarchy is there anyway to tweak kings for same results?" Absolutely nothing more than that should happen though discussion wise on other kernels.

As always great work King!

btw I deff narrowed my issue down to BFS kernels in general with regards to Baseball superstars full version locking up. Had others verify the same issue when playing the full and coming back from saved games. Currently Gamevil said there is a update coming in September to fix some freezing so I guess I'll be resorting to CFS kernels till then, unless theres a way to tweak BFS and the way it handles the game.
[EVO 4G Android Development] juancaperez2000:
what a nice change on #8, no more lags,

fps 54

quadrant 1400

linpack 34.901

im not overcloked

We'll se hows the battery life

Thanks Kings you are the best
[EVO 4G Android Development] rebosxl:
I under clock to about 691 max/384 min using interactive and I get serious lag, lock up and reboot then it refused to boot. This was all with #8bfs sigh...once again I'm flashing back to #4 bfs where I experience no lag whatsoever and get 54 fps with the same settings. I did a full data,cache everything wipe and did a nandroid when I was doing #8, was that the right way? I'm using baked snack 1.5 with the burst alpha theme.
[EVO 4G Android Development] JvIo55iBl3r:
to me, i havent got chance to try BFS#8, but BFS#6 is good on my evo for last weekend, and tried CFS#7 last night, seems a screen lag, but just when i try to use home button. met some sd disk problem before bed, need to scan and fix it before flash BFS#8 tonight.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cowfodder:
BFS #8 seems to have fixed all the little issues with #7. Scrolling is smooth, Quadrant from 1550-1600 @1190 OC. 53-54 FPS with about a 2 stdev. Virus rom RC1. Will see what the battery does over the next few days, but that's really not as much a concern as I have a seidio wall charger on the way, and already have 2 batteries.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
I got the seido wall charger/battery charger combo too. Made all those worries about not having a full charge go right out the window. I just have a back battery ready to replace at a moments notice, what a novel idea :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shauli20:
What are the benefits of #8 over #4? Because I'm currently running #4 and life is good...

Sent from my EVO using the XDA App!
[EVO 4G Android Development] mwOHTHREE:
total boner noob here.

Is there a dumbass' guide to kernal's floating around out there? I have only just now rooted and am running the latest Fresh 3.1 build. I've never flashed a kernal, nor have I messed with FPS or overclocking, but I've been reading this thread and am intrigued. Unfortunately, I have no idea what the difference between BFS/CFS is, nor do I know if I can just flash this new #8 kernal in the same way I would flash a rom, or do i need to wipe all the data, etc.

I've checked for FAQs on the site, and either I've missed them, or even the FAQs are too advanced for how newbie I am.

thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] skipple:
I got BFS #8 installed and thought everything was running great until my phone was just sitting here idle and restarted. So I just went back to #6 again
[EVO 4G Android Development] DeathBySnuggles:
Bad question to ask around here these days. Some folks will jump on you like you're Angela Jolie at a Masturbator's Anonymous meeting. I don't believe there is an FAQ out there just yet. Being a bit of a noob I feel your pain and still couldn't tell you what the ultimate differences are other than CFS is older, BFS is newer. Here's my suggestion. Make several pots of coffee. Light some candles, put on some ambient music, fire up your favorite laptop or desktop. Laptop preferred, more intimate. Read through this thread, every page, focusing on posts made by King himself. Ignore posts that start out "i don't know if i'm doing this right...", "0mG lOL h4X0r..." and "what's the difference between CFS and BFS?" Then read through Netarchy's thread about his kernels. Focus on his responses, and ignore the aforementioned replies. Then when you're all done, and you still have no friggin idea what the difference is, download three of king's BFS kernels, 3 CFS kernels, 3 of netarchy's BFS kernels (are there three?) and 3 CFS. Flash them to your phone like you normally would UNLESS INSTRUCTED OTHERWISE and see what works best for you. Last week I would have said BFS on my phone sucks. This week I tried King's BFS 6 and my phone is running incredibly smooth.

Oh yeah, also read Hero_over's thread regarding Bakedsnack and his kernel development.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mwOHTHREE:
Yeah, I knew I was going to catch a crotch kick for asking such a basic question, but I had no choice.
[EVO 4G Android Development] sgt. slaughter:
Its mainly from these questions ppl get yelled at b/c they can find the answer simply by searching the forum themselves or even google. If people did this there would be a lot less clutter around here with the same question being answered 1billion times in the same forum.
[EVO 4G Android Development] leeh41:
Been using BFS#6 since it was released, and no problems or complaints here. I didnt notice 7 was released, so I never flashed it. Looks like a good thing tho, since 7 had problems. Havent gotten around to #8 yet.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shauli20:
I am also a noob, but just by reading through this thread I can tell a few things for sure:

A) no one here seems to fully understand the big difference between BFS and CFS. Try and see what works.

B) wiping cache and dalvik is recommended, but you don't need to do a full wipe.

C) fps will be unlocked by default with all the new kernels. To overclock, use SetCPU or Overclocking Widget.

Enjoy, and in the future please read first.

Sent from my EVO using the XDA App!
[EVO 4G Android Development] mwOHTHREE:
Thanks for the help. At the risk of catching more ire, i'm going to ask a quick follow up, though.

A) no one here seems to fully understand the big difference between BFS and CFS. Try and see what works.

Fair enough. Can do.

B) wiping cache and dalvik is recommended, but you don't need to do a full wipe.

I read this as well, but it seemed like most people were concerned about wiping when going from one modded kernal to another. I did not know if there was any difference between never flashing a kernal to jumping on #8. Form the first post in this thread, it seems as though everyone is already familiar with the process/jargon.

C) fps will be unlocked by default with all the new kernels. To overclock, use SetCPU or Overclocking Widget.

Having followed the 2.2 method that uses Unrevoked3, I am still unclear if "SetCPU" works. Apparently, there is another rabbit hole to chase called "nand unlocked" that may make a significant difference. That's why I was asking.
[EVO 4G Android Development] brol1k:
Damn, bfs #8 is simply amazing with battery life so far. Running it with flipz latest Rom. Thanks for the great job king!

Tapatalk'd on Evo
[EVO 4G Android Development] akarol:
What is everyone using nowadays BFS or CFS?
[EVO 4G Android Development] bigdaddie:
BFS here. Seems to run fine. Haven't tried CFS.
[EVO 4G Android Development] akarol:
Took the plunge and started flashing Fresh 3.2.0.0. Immediately after, I'll be installed BFS #8. See what all this hype is about. Hopefully I underestimated you all.
[EVO 4G Android Development] deepnoizer:
I see reference in change logs to "Torture" mode ...

is that something that would show up on phone as "rcu_torture_rea" and rape CPU all day long?

got it on of the phone and can't shake it
[EVO 4G Android Development] Biofall:
You realize that the main point of 3 2 is the kernel right? The new htc kernel got it right
[EVO 4G Android Development] Tyzing:
Yeh, I'd like an answer on this too....I noticed it killing the CPU (well at least using it alot)

Couldnt figure out what it was....good find
[EVO 4G Android Development] rebosxl:
# 8 Bfs just refuses to work with my phone . I've tried everything from wiping then doing a nandroid for my data then flashing it to just wiping everything and just re flashing the OS then the flashing the kernel. It just refuses to boot. It has completely turned me off of flashing any more kernels from king (no offense) although I'm happy with #4 Bfs. Good luck king, wish you the best
[EVO 4G Android Development] hooover:
Have you tried a tissue with aloe?
[EVO 4G Android Development] cds36:
isnt the correct kernel version on fresh 3.2...... 2.6.32.15 ?
[EVO 4G Android Development] rebosxl:
Actually no, I'll try that now lol
[EVO 4G Android Development] firemedic1343:
Wow, that sounds like a real backhanded compliment. If you're very happy with number 4, why the complaint?
[EVO 4G Android Development] akarol:
Yeah! I realized that, but I figured that I'd install 3.2.0.0 since a full wipe was recommended for #8 anyways. Should have stuck with 3.1.0.2 though as I'm having issues with my FM Radio installation and Peep won't log in.
[EVO 4G Android Development] willy900wonka:
Bfs 8 must have fixed the battery charger lol. It stayed at 100% for 45 min. I thought juice plotter had broken. I messed with the car all day, but did text a bit and sent some emails. I'm at 78% after 10 hours. It's as responsive as bfs6, but it must sleep.

I dk what htc 3.2 has, but it's got a way to go to beat these kernels.

I'm using netarchies stock 2.2 rom with ocwidget and oc to 103.

This wasn't a fair test and was unquantifiable, but by the seat of the pants you can feel the improvement. I did have one autonomous restart, but wtf, who cares.
[EVO 4G Android Development] liquid307:
BFS #8

BFS #8 , wiped, flashed, now rom reboots at lock screen. I think it's due to kernel being really overclocked:confused:. Now I have to do nand_restore.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shauli20:
My understanding is that regardless of whether you have flashed a kernel before or not, you definitely don't need to do a full wipe/factory reset. I personally have flashed newer kernels over older ones without wiping anything, and didn't experience issues. However, it does seem people are saying that to guarantee the best performance it is recommended to wipe Cache and dalvik. It can't hurt, so why not.

Regarding NAND unlock, it is known that Unrevoked3 does not unlock NAND permanently, and therefore some things still won't work. I recommend you follow the SimpleRoot path. Look for latest version for the 1.47 firmware version. You can find the thread in the EVO hacking and development section. It will give you full root, but take you back to 2.1. Once your done, you can flash any 2.2 rooted ROM of your choice, and then you should have no issue with SetCPU or custom kernels.

Good luck!

Sent from my EVO using the XDA App!
[EVO 4G Android Development] wsantiagow:
LMAO
[EVO 4G Android Development] wirenut110:
I installed Fresh 3.2 yesterday with his kernal and it's great on battery. If you go back to my earlier posts I describe how I use my EVO daily. 3.2 is simply the best kernal for battery I've used to date.

I don't say these words to insult the King for I have been a fan since Kernal #1 and I still try all of Kings kernals every chance I get.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bluefire808:
My phone seems to die alot faster with bfs #8 than it did with bfs #6. Im going to revert back as my battery. Seems to be getting eaten alive
[EVO 4G Android Development] willy900wonka:
I've only heard good things about Fresh, actually the sprint guy who lied to me that my son's evo would have 2.1 on it, was running fresh's rom. I can't help but wonder, when the n1 had these algorythms, why didn't the evo. I have contemplated using fresh's 3.2. I would choose to use bfs 8 over htc's 2.8...
[EVO 4G Android Development] Biofall:
It looks like htc has finally gotten something right. Aside from the fps cap :(
[EVO 4G Android Development] wirenut110:
Abkriiger, im waiting for you to try Fresh 3.2 and make a comment.
[EVO 4G Android Development] stanglifemike:
I have heard great things about this kernal from others who are on OMJ's 3.1 ROM, which I am also on. About to flash it now and will report back in 24 hours. Thank you for all the hard work!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] shif7i7down:
Iam not sure if this will solve anyones problems with the # 8bfs kernel, but I think most of the complaints about the king kernel not working might just be because of the rom you're running is not compatible?. I'm using virusrom and it works fine on it but maybe because he use the king kernels as defaults already might be the reason im not having any issue... Just my 2¢
[EVO 4G Android Development] rebosxl:
You know what you just might be right. I am very hesitant to give up baked snack tho because the frame rate for the camera is better than fresh, besides that though they are basically the same BUT I want to start recording more videos. I'll try fresh tho and report back.

I wish king made kernels for cm6. I tried some other kernels on cm6 and they aren't nearly as good in battery life as #4 Bfs
[EVO 4G Android Development] hooover:
I had great performance out of bfs#6...Not to thread Jack or go off topic but Hero_Over has his own Kernels in Baked Snack with this same implements, #5 gives me tremendous battery life and does not weigh on the performance at all...give that a shot
[EVO 4G Android Development] PeoplesHelper:
Thank you!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] rockky:
Thank you for this great post.

Really...let people make there own decisions...chips will fall where they may.
[EVO 4G Android Development] rockky:
Mods cant this guy get booted?

Can we discuss the kernel plwase

[QUOTE=zenulator;7664259]On his site for the download. Honestly don't give this guy money to finish his evo fund.

First sentence in the op:

First sentence on his page:

To each his own I suppose. Let me know when the source for this is up so I can recompile and append my name in it and beg for the NEXT best device I want to dev on.[/QUOTE]
[EVO 4G Android Development] hooover:
Can we get a verifacation of what type of battery life to expect is the amount that drastic???
[EVO 4G Android Development] kingklick:
Read up on havs and svs benchmarks

:)
[EVO 4G Android Development] rjmjr69:
Agreed as well as the volume tweaks etc. I would love this to be the most complete kernal to many features scattered between versions.

Made a donation King to get yougoing on getting an evo Keep up the great work much appreciated.

As with any thing now a days there will be nay sayers people causing trouble "much like I Do in other threads hehe" dont worry there are many more people who actually appreciate what your doing even if it is not said enough out loud.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Beejis:
Any updates on overclocking and such?
[EVO 4G Android Development] nugzo:
OP are you addressing the install errors? Shouldn't that be fixed first? I know it still sticks, or atleast some of it does. There is an error for a reason though. Errors installing kernels shouldn't be acceptable.
[EVO 4G Android Development] fazzmanic:
Keeping my eye on this... will give it a shot when OC and FPS are unlocked.
[EVO 4G Android Development] edtate:
Same here. Seems there's a lot of potential with this. Hopefully everything can be worked out soon

:)
[EVO 4G Android Development] puertoblack2003:
unable to connect to wifi and 4g
[EVO 4G Android Development] driguez:
So far so good, btw 4G and wifi its working just fine. DC 3.5
[EVO 4G Android Development] kingklick:
Push the modules

Read post below, they work :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] nolandrew:
I'm on dc 3.5. Came from netarchy 4.0.3a. The battery life is amazing. it's been 12+ hours and it's only gone down 14% (76 down to 62) ... i wasn't fully charged when i flashed it but its working. I haven't used extensively though, but definitely notice a difference.

Wifi and 4G work, but confirm that adb does not work. 1151 quadrant, 35 linpack so performance isn't too bad.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kingklick:
Very good to see!

I will be updating today - fulfilling your requests :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] thenewguy821:
Out of curiosity, what changes are you expecting to make in the update today? I know a lot of people were asking for overclock, others were more concerned with fps cap. Are you planning on incorporating it all in one update, or updating one first, the other in another update?

Thanks.
[EVO 4G Android Development] twigs187:
Is netfilter enabled in this kernel? It would be great if it was :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] HondaCop:
If he incorporates the FPS fix and allows OC to 1.22, then I will jump on it and give it a shot. I am currently on Fresh 3.1.0.1 and Netarchy 4.0.3a. Right now I am getting INSANE results with this combo.

FPS2D - 54 avg/1.48 stdev!

Quadrant - 1510

Gears - 55 rock steady
[EVO 4G Android Development] barnacles10:
Anyway these modules can be included in a zip to flash this time round ?
[EVO 4G Android Development] kingklick:
yah I am in the process of setting up a better .zip

:)
[EVO 4G Android Development] cath0dez:
Weird CPU Utilization

First off, I have been on CM6 for a long while and had no reason to switch until I stumbled upon Fresh/BFS while updating my PRL. BFS8 with 3.2 Fresh has pretty much revolutionized my battery life. I thought CM6 was great being able to run a whole workday without charge - with this new setup I feel like I can run a whole weekend.

Only question I have is regarding an event yesterday where my CPU was going at full blast without any apparent reason. I used System Monitor to identify the process or app that was going haywire and could not find any perpitrators. It occured after running a flash movie on a website, but closing flash and the browser had no effect. Is this a kernal bug or am I missing something?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shauli20:
How long was it running full speed? Flash content does require a lot of processing power, and it could take the processor some time to scale down after it ends a demanding task. Usually within a minute it would scale down.

Sent from my EVO using the XDA App!
[EVO 4G Android Development] bigdaddie:
I was using BFS 8 but was getting a bunch of FCs. Also, my weather location would not update. I switched to CFS 8 and all is working great.
[EVO 4G Android Development] donatom3:
The Kernel in Fresh 3.2 isn't a custom Kernel, it's actually a new Kernel by HTC. Yes its' marked as a 2.6.32.15 kernel but here it is from Fresh

http://geekfor.me/forum/evo-new-release/coming-soon-fresh-evo-3-2-0-0/

"New kernel by HTC (g3a8614e)

This kernel has been showing some amazing battery life. It is "stock" so it won't give you overclocking however both myself and freshlyill have gone 1.5 days without charging under normal/medium use."
[EVO 4G Android Development] Onelife511:
What battery tricks are you using and what exactly are you calling normal/medium use. I use fresh 3.2 with the stock kernel and with what i would call light to moderate usage i get about 13 hours. Which i would call great but how in the world are you getting 1.5 days with medium usage. Do you let email automatically scan? Do you use Wireless tethering? How about some screenshots with the usage to backup the 1.5 days with medium use. Not trying to be a **** but i have a hard time believing you are getting 1.5 days with normal usage. And when i mean normal i mean what the EVO 4g is built to do.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ryan2202:
Everyone uses their phone for different reasons. Heres my impressions over the past two days.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=7951259&postcount=2873
[EVO 4G Android Development] pongoface:
It had nothing to do with the kernel lol. It is HTC servers. Was happening to me on the stock kernel as well. Reboot is what fixed your location silly.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Tyzing:
That wasnt him that said he uses it 1.5 days he's quoting Flipz on the attached link
[EVO 4G Android Development] leeoniya:
the only way i have ever gotten 1.5+ days out of my EVO is with all but WiFi radios turned off and idling 75% of that time with setcpu set to conservative/powersave. meaning no GPS, 3G/mobile-data, bluetooth, hotspot, 4G. the phone sleeps like a rock, sips about 1%/hr.

i dont even bother with 4G, the wasted juice + $10/month is just not worth it. any reason you have to need 4G will also massively drain your battery on top of the 4G radio = lose-lose.
[EVO 4G Android Development] donatom3:
If you're in Wifi range the 4G radio turns itself off even though it's active second you leave Wifi, and when you're in 4G range 4G uses less power than 3G does for data. 4G only sucks power when you're actively searching for a signal.
[EVO 4G Android Development] godfirst:
One thing so far noticeable about bfs#8 is the stability of being over clocked at higher speeds.i haven't had a chance to test out the battery yet but will report back. Its a great start oc at 1228 stable.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Josh H.:
I understand the battery use, but you're paying the $10/month either way. :(
[EVO 4G Android Development] kingklick:
good to see

I am working on a different kernel at the moment