yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] edru:
I think this would be cool. I wanted to do something simliar with my MT3G when I geta new phone so I could basically turn it into my remote control for things like XBMC. Figured fully removing things such as Phone, 3G, Bluetooth, basically only leaving wifi would save heavily on battery.

Then again I guess I could turn all that stuff off as well.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] biglo:
My thoughts exactly.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darkflare:
This is precisely what I am aiming to achieve. Personally I use EventGhost to controll my win 7 pc, but any remote app would do.

I understand what your saying however Im not looking to just deprive connectivity. I figure if the phone doesnt have a Sim card then theres no reason for it to have the ability to recieve sms so remove all the apps that are setting up broadcast recievers for sms, and/or the code that is emitting the broadcast reciever for sms. This is just an example. But there must be things that can be removed that relate to the sim/phone side.

The tablet you linked too doesnt interest me at all since its a new device and my goal is to repurpose an old (and loved =P) device.

Any rom devs care to kick in there two cents about how achievable any of this is? Removing apk's just seems partially cosmetic as Im thinking its more core than that.

Also thanks to all who have provided responces, its great to have some discussion about this
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sleepyfu:
I will take a Froyo ROM and strip it for you, some time next week.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darkflare:
Sounds ace, could you detail some what your planning on doing? Since Im not planning on retiring my g1 just yet but would love to know the steps to create a rom like that further down the line!
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] studjuice:
you just need to read the cm wiki and you'll find what you need
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mejorguille:
SO if I understand it right, you want to make it so your phone cannot connect to any GSM service, am I right? And you would like to be able to still use the internet with wifi. Removing APK's or editing framework or the kernel won't change anything. The only way to completely achieve what you want is installing a radio that only supports wifi. No such radio is currently available. You will have to code your own. lbcoder proved that a mismatching radio+SPL=brick, so if I was you I wouldn't be messing with that. Best advice I can give is to switch to airplane mode.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Krician:
So basically, you want to use your device like an iPad or iPod Touch? Correct me if i'm wrong.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jubeh:
The real thing I still have a problem with is that, as far as I can tell, OP is still thinking that there's some benefit to removing apps rather than just disabling data.

Sure, you can do it, but there's really no point, no benefit, nothing.

If that's the case, and I'm on the right track, then I guess you'd also like the build coming together nicely.

I'm not a fan of force-closes, and if you remove stuff, you're bound to find points in the OS where pressing the wrong thing (for example, on Gallery app, choosing the "send via MMS" option) will give you a force-close.

I guess if you want a MID-esque build that actually comes together nicely (ie, disables all menu options and anything else that would cause a force-close due to just plainly removing apks), then I do guess you have a nice project on your hands.

A straight build from AOSP should give you something close, don't know if you'd want Market and Gapps too.

I guess I'll get your mind jogging. Ok, so imagine you do make such a build, then you're still dealing with the fact that your phone still has the hardware and, because of it's nature (a system-on-chip), the radio, etc, are still consuming battery.

You'll never be able to remove everything and you'll always have that itch for "now how do I get rid of this?"...
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lbcoder:
.. one thing to note is that the mismatched radio/spl brick was due to the KERNEL not booting. Things like FASTBOOT still work, and the only reason they are inaccessible is that the MISC partition is telling the SPL to boot recovery.

Something that recently occurred to me is that it may be possible to replace the radio code with something a little more generic, like redboot http://ecos.sourceware.org/ecos/hardware.html . If you disable the radio processor and don't allocate any memory to it (or very very little), you may even be able to reclaim the memory otherwise being lost to it, i.e. the device actually has 192 MB of RAM, but we only have <100 available to Android.

http://ecos.sourceware.org/fom-serv/ecos/cache/27.html

** doesn't that look just perfect?

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that the radio processor is exclusively for cell service and that wifi and bluetooth don't depend on it. If this is the case, then you'd be able to use it as a fully functional wifi phone with 192 MB RAM. Even if this is incorrect, read the next paragraph for alternative. Or, of course, a bluetooth or wifi dongle.

A second interesting thought.... USB host mode + UMTS modem = cell phone with cell phone service (or at least VoIP) with 192 MB RAM. Side effect being, of course, that there is a usb dongle duct taped onto the back of the phone, but for adding in close to an extra 100 MB of ram, worth it? :D

I think that at this point, people should start looking into crazy ideas and weird hacks. Some of this stuff is *DEFINITELY* possible. Even weird things may be possible, like taking over the radio core as a second CPU core (albeit a slower one). Its not like the radio core is a mystery... its an ARM9, so its a simple (eh, in theory) matter of shoving something in that is built for the appropriate instruction set.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] borodin1:
Hey, if you're willing to give it a shot, I have a G1 that I'm willing to torture to death. I'm not a dev but I can certainly test stuff out and get logs and I don't care if I brick that thing.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jamesd86:
that's so what i (and i think OP here) want. at least the first part. 64 mb of ram reclaimed goes a LONG way to functionality of the device.

the rom should be named G1 Touch ^_^
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swetland:
On MSM7201A, the modem "owns" the bulk of the clock control registers and the PMIC (and thus voltage rail control), and Linux issues low level rpc calls (proc_comm) to the modem to control clocks and power. Also the modem is responsible for handling power collapse and sleep modes.

If you're going to replace the stock modem firmware, you're going to need to somehow provide this functionality in its place, otherwise Linux is dead in the water.

Brian
[Windows Mobile] Farmer Ted:
This is just a quick tip; I stumbled across it a few weeks ago. Sometimes when you're cooking a rom, you might have a registry key over-writing one you're trying to cook in (in an .reg or .rgu, not a .provxml). Or, you may just want to remove a registry key that is causing issues. Frequently, the same key will appear in multiple places in the same file or in multiple packages. Anyway, if you go to the Tools folder in EVK, there is a file named "erviuspackages" (no extension). Open it up with notepad, and it has a list of every file in every package in your latest build as well as every reg key in every .reg or .rgu file. So, if you're looking for a reg entry, just search through the file. Recently, I was tracking down "Redirect"="powerexe.exe", because I wanted to disable HTC's power control panel to use the stock microsoft one. The bugger appears maybe a half dozen times in the kitchen (HTC really wants it cooked in, lol), and searching through the erviuspackages file was invaluable. I've also used it to track down a number of reg entries for non-existent dll's/drivers-running SK Tools Clean would always point out a couple dozen reg key paths for files that didn't exist. One key, for \Windows\TraRecoEnu.dll, appeared like a dozen times in the same .rgu in my oem folder.

When you find the reg key, you need to scroll up until you hit a list of files; it will also have the package name. Anyway, this makes finding crap in your kitchen a lot easier. I would guess that there is a similar file in OSKitchen, as it is also a visual kitchen, but I couldn't tell you the name or the location.
[Windows Mobile] rgb-rgb:
Have you tried this?

In EVK, load your ROM

Under Editors on the left hand side, check ALL

Click Show Editor

Now you have two search boxes. One searches just for File names and one Searches each folder in the kitchen for your search string. You can find any string in any file in the kitchen.

When it finds a match to your search string, EVK lists the files in the Right Hand List box.

You can then double click on each file in the box and it will open the file up in an editor.

Pretty slick! For me, it's the easiest way to find something, or anything in the kitchen.
[Windows Mobile] samsamuel:
both useful methods to know.

personally i added .reg and .rgu extensions to Windows search and set them to index both the name and file contents, then you can simply type/paste sections of reg keys into the windows explorer search box. (same with xml and provxml, and .cpr)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] mardaw:
Hello,

I am trying to skin my Fuze. The manilla files wont overwrite. Tried Rescoe, Total Commander, everything. There is a checkbox that says "in Rom" in Rescoe. Does this mean I can't change them.

I want to skin with "Dirty Paper" does anyone have any ideas or seen this before? Rom is 1.95

Thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] AthenaLod:
did you try that with manila disabled? that can solve it if it was enabled. just an idea
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] mardaw:
Thanks for the reply. I am a noo-b to this so if you mean was TF3D disabled, yes. If there is another way to disable manila please let me know.

Thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] mardaw:
I was able to get this skin working on the stock ATT rom. Too scared to flash it still.

These are the cabs I found on this site that worked for me:

V6 Crystal Flip White Numbers FUZE FLIP CLOCK.cab

xmatrix_PhoneDialerBlackS2A.cab

tsowentaskbar3v1.5.cab

They are much better than the nasty gray ATT Touchflo theme. Thanks to all who created.

Next question - Is there any way to change the contacts background to resemble the Diamond background of the theme I am using. It would be a lot nicer than the plain white. I have searched high and low and can't seem to find.

Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] hack1133:
Funny memory game...

Test your brain. Follow the yellow ruby.

Memmzy is free and without ads.

Post your feedback.
[Android Apps and Games] Zepiii:
A bit like the game called "Simon" !

Thank you ;) !!
[Desire General] Baggyb:
I was just installing some apps from the Market on my unbranded Desire (using OTA 2.2) when my hanset froze, then displayed the HTC splash screen and reloaded Sense.

When I went back into the market I noticed that I had the "Update All " button which had been originally promised with Froyo. I swear I didn't have this before.

I haven't noticed anything else though.

Anyone else notice this or am I missing something??
[Desire General] killyouridols:
AHA! Might not just be me then

Posted that Earlier...are the "Symptoms" in that link the same for you?

KYI
[Desire General] Baggyb:
Yeah spot on mate. There must have been some kind of update then.

It was strange as there was no warning and it didn't shut the device down.

It just killed some processes and then restarted them.

Oh well, updates are a good thing, keep them coming!
[Desire General] killyouridols:
Sweet. I'm not going Mental then :D

Seems like a good deal to me, I'm liking the Apps appearing as a suggestion as I type.

KYI
[HD2 General] fuzzysig:
i was using my phone for google maps yesterday and it was pretty hot.

the phone of course got even hotter since the screen was on and gps on and loading maps constantly

not burning hot but it could definitely use a fan.

i tried to locate some kind of heat dissipating tape or something similar to our silicone covers to put on the back of the phone

the only 2 things i can think of is copper tape, some kind of textured or wrinkle finish film as well.
[HD2 General] ap3604:
Is there a windows mobile application that tells you the battery temperature? :confused:

I have a Nexus One as well and there is an Android App called battery indicator that will show you the temperature of the battery so that you don't overheat it and degrade your battery life.

Dunno if you can do this on Windows Mobile turn by turn directions yet, but when I am using the GPS on my Android Nexus One I usually turn off the screen since it still says the directions even while the screen is off. If I have to have the screen on (in case I'm on compact city streets with quick turns) I always make sure to hold the phone close to the air conditioning vent every 7-10 minutes or so to make sure the phone doesn't overheat. GPS + Screen on is a hot, Hot, HOT combination ;)
[HD2 General] rp-x1:
WMWifiRouter shows the temperature of the battery, not sure about any others though.
[HD2 General] troed:
Install BattClock form Zuinige Rijder, configure and You can monitor batt temp nicely.

Now in summer at temps over 30°C the HD2 gets really hot when on the car dashboard navigating.

At approx. 43°C it stops loading when in a loading cradle in the car (LED flashing orange) and very often freezes then.

Last time - after freeze - I took out batt and it was damn hot, reinserted, started HD2, temp showing 63 °C (!!!!!!!!!!), after some minutes froze again at temp 65°C

Contacted HTC-support on this issue, just sent me an advice for repair service, no explanation why this was not taken into account during development since it´s not a faulty device but a general misconstruction.

Works nicely when ambient temp below 20°C or cloudy sky.
[HD2 General] nrfitchett4:
don't all computers shut down at a certain temp???

Why would our smartphones be any different?
[HD2 General] wakers:
I dont have any issue's with my battery getting hot at all, running android though the processor gets pretty warm...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] sonny123:
Hi guys,

My dad's handed me his Vario III / (Kaiser 120) to use.

I did a reset using the option in 'SETTINGS' to reset it and lose all date. Now, when I start it up, it looks like new and the time/date has to be set. All my dad's contacts have gone. Cool. - 1. Was this a Hard-Reset ?

I went to something like SETTINGS > INFO and got this:

Radio Vers 1.70.18.02

ROM DATE 9/01/08

ROM Vers. 3.31.110.3 WWE

Build 19212.1.03

When I start it up, it says Windows Mobile v6.1

A couple years ago, I loaded tomtom navigator on it for my dad. It was really good with the internal gps.

Anyway, now that I have the phone, I'd like to install tomtom navigator on it, use the camera (maybe 10 photos a week) and upload pics to my PC, and browse the internet (email, twitter etc.) from time to time. Also, I'd use the handset to connect via bluetooth to my laptop so I can use it for internet (in emergencies, as it is kinda slow). I also text (3-5 texts a day)

I also downloaded an app called Shazam.cab from a site called mobilism, which I would love to use as I have seen it on my lucky friend's iPhone and the app is awesome!

2. Apart from the usb cable, and active sync on my pc, do i need anything else to install shazam on my phone/micro sd card?

3. I assume a ROM means operating system? Like windows xp, 7 etc.

I see that people are putting new ROMs on their phone. My phone has

Storage Free Space: 121MB and Programs Free 55MB. There isn't a lot of 'bloatware' hogging up resources on there, as far as i can see.

4. Do I need to install a custom ROM now that you know my uses (in blue font above) for the phone? / do I need to flash it? I.e. will a new ROM/flash make my life a lot easier? Better to convert to android system? Will I need to do any of these things to install shazam?

I was goin to do this on the weekend so I can use other sims in my phone:

xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=334679

fingers crossed it goes ok.

Can you please help?

Thank you

Sonny

ps. I may need to ask a couple more questions after this. Once again thank you for your help. If anyone needs advice on cameras, please let me know as I am a regular contributor to a photography forum.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Vytelo:
1. Yes, it was HARD-Reset (removes all settings, contacts, messages, ...). It doesn't do anything to the MicroSD card.

2. I don't know anything about that. Sorry! :o

3. Yes, ROM means operating system. There are stock ROMs and modified ROMs. For Kaiser (a.k.a. HTC TyTN II) you'll find only stock Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM and lots of modified WM 6.1 and WM 6.5 ROMs. There's no stock WM 6.5 ROM for Kaiser.

4. Android is not stable enough. Sometimes it crashes, doesn't wake up and so on... All your mentioned things can be done with both WM 6.1 and 6.5, so it's for you to decide what to use. WM 6.1 looks a little bit old and terrible, but it uses less resources than WM 6.5 which looks a little bit... like system that was made to be similar to iPhone OS. Yes, WM 6.5 is more finger-friendly, but the applications grid drives me crazy, it uses more resources (and loves draining the battery) ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] sonny123:
Thank you very much for taking the time to post. I found it really useful.

I stuck with original HTC ROM with 6.1 and I am loving it. Shazam works wonderfully well. The phone is so damn sharp. And, using 2 apps at once is brilliant.

Does anyone know if I can put more icons/apps on the TODAY SCREEN?

At the moment, I am only allowed to put 6 in the start menu screen, and 1 (tom tom) on the today screen.

My Start menu has: 1 File explorer, 2 organiser (i use the calculator a lot), 3 internet explorer, 4 MS word (for my notes), 5 shazam (use a lot), 6 Resco photo manager (for uploading to FlickR)

I'd like to add 2 more apps (wunder radio + core player) somewhere with quick access.

Any ideas?

Thank you
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Vytelo:
Try copying applications links (.lnk files) from \Windows\Start Menu\Programs\ to \Windows\Start Menu\

I'm not sure if it's going to work with Windows Mobile 6.1, but it's safe to try :)
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] bigant262:
Just saw this on twitter, http://googlemobile.blogspot.com/2010/08/just-speak-it-introducing-voice-actions.html

Looks really awesome, I tried installing it but got installion error. :(

Update: Seems that people with custom roms, not all though, are having problems installing this. Uninstall voice search using root explorer or adb, then reboot the phone, and try to install from the market again. Worked for me and others. Thanks neilkarunatilaka and dukins for figuring out how to get it work.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] samrozzi:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/12/google-voice-actions-for-mobile-announced-write-messages-find/

yeah hearing rumors when google updated the market last night it broke the market on custom roms?
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] pugsby:
Remove using ADB:

adb remount

adb shell rm /system/app/GoogleQuickSearchBox.apk

adb uninstall com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox

adb shell rm /system/app/VoiceSearch.apk

adb uninstall com.google.android.voicesearch

Then REBOOT and try from app market. If it doesn't work at first, try a few more times.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] bigant262:
Wow, all custom roms??
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] samrozzi:
well idk. reading reports all over and so far noone can install it that has a custom rom. any one with stock to test it?
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] bigant262:
My gf has a N1 running CM6 and she can't install it either. I wonder if someone can try and get the apk and see if we can install it then.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] jjcd51590:
worked for me facking badass
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] bigant262:
Are you running a custom rom?
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] samrozzi:
jjcd what rom are you using?
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] stilv:
any luck ? same problem
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Biffy:
I have a feeling this is US only too, which Google could have made clearer so as not to dash everyones hopes.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] antianalog:
Looks great but dos not install on my htc evo with cm6. Any word as to how I can get this would be good.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] stilv:
same problem, running cm6
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Amco:
Evio's rom not installing from the market place boo hoo :(
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] jjcd51590:
ava v4 froyo

EDIT: I've had no trouble with market or anything on this. Does the new one have any?
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Amco:
Retract my statement,it is downloading and working on evio's rom.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] jjcd51590:
here

i attached it
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] JustJake:
No Love on the latest version of Fresh
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] plmiller0905:
I installed it on my EVio Rom. It appeared to had download and freezed up or something on the installation part. So I stopped it, re-downloaded and it installed fine.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] superevilllama:
It is sucessful on custom roms if you remove the old version of voice search.apk using ADB. I just installed it via market and it works well.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] JustJake:
Just tried the apk on Fresh...no go
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] neilkarunatilaka:
Same problem here.

I deleted the voicesearch apk using root explorer, tried to install the new voice search app and it failed again. Blah. :mad:
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] jjcd51590:
Weird I didn't do this.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] fldash:
No dice here either, I even went in and remove VoiceSearch.apk from /system/app
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Biffy:
Damnit goooooooooogle you tease!
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] dukins:
Really because its working for me with Fresh rom. I did these exact steps, EXCEPT, once you delete the voicesearch, REBOOT, then install from the market. Now it works. Very Nice too. :D
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] superevilllama:
What I did was mount /system/app as RW with root explorer, used adb to "rm VoiceSearch.apk and then rebooted, downloaded and installed from the market. Just did it on a second EVO and worked as well.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] neilkarunatilaka:
I shall reboot! Standby! :D
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] jjcd51590:
IDK why these steps are required I just hit install in the market no reboot no adb no root explorer

New one is installed in /data/app I believe it just has higher importance then the old one
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] dukins:
At least for me if you used the search button on the bottom of the phone, you now have to longpress and set it button as voicesearch for default. And when searching you have to longpress to search, which is going to be a pain, instead of just tapping.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] bigant262:
How do I delete the old one? Either with adb or root explorer?
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] neilkarunatilaka:
Solution!

Thanks to dukins, I got the missing step.

Once I rebooted after deleting the voicesearch.apk, I was able to install the new voice search without any problem! :D
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] pugsby:
adb remount

adb shell rm /system/app/GoogleQuickSearchBox.apk

adb uninstall com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox

adb shell rm /system/app/VoiceSearch.apk

adb uninstall com.google.android.voicesearch
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] superevilllama:
It is only needed on custom roms.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] dukins:
REBOOT then INSTALL from the market
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] JustJake:
3rd time was a charm---props to Dukins
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] jjcd51590:
Ummmm.... I am custom AVA-Froyo V4
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Biffy:
Anyone in the UK actually got this working?
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] pugsby:
Took a few tries. Went through on try 10 or so. Market is glitchy.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] jjcd51590:
As requested.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] jerryparid:
Didnt have to uninstall anything. Just installed from QR code link on Snacks 1.2.5
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Carloswithac:
I uninstalled the old version via ADB and was able to install the new ones. However, now my search button isn't linked with the search bar. What gives? Will try to reboot and see if it fixes itself.