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[G1 Android Development] G1ForFun:
Nice quotes.

Okay, so I really have to ask you a question....

Do you ever test anything that you preach too people on these boards? Ever? Really?

Go plug your phone into your PC with Windows on it. Now pull down your notification bar and hit mount. Then hit your home button. Now open your app drawer (Oh my gosh they are all there!). Open any app you want. Wow, they all work, surprise huh?

Your making yourself look less credible the more you spit out utter non sense.
[G1 Android Development] sparksco:
Then why are there options in swapper2 that say check to umount swap safely before mounting sdcard? Have you ever tested swapper2 or are you just spiting utter nonsense? Honestly though why do you have it out for me, go bother someone else. If you don't like me as a dev, or my roms, then don't flash, personally I could care less, just get off my back. Also I don't have or use windows, nor do I want to.
[G1 Android Development] asb123:
DEV: This is because swapper 2 has a swap file option by default rather than using the swap partition... for those without a partitioned sd card.
[G1 Android Development] sparksco:
I understand that part, but it also has the option to use the swap partition. That's why I use it, because it has more features. I really don't see how a patch is better than a app, I mean I don't notice any lag with using it.
[G1 Android Development] lolmensch:
an app stays constant in background (as far as i understood it) and the patch doesnt so it needs way less battery if you use the patch. could be that im wrong.

sparksco, could it be that titanium backup destroys your way of apps2sd? because i messed v1.1 up with fr patch. low on memory

today i restored my 41 apps (okay there are big ones like swype 1.60 with all langs and navigon) but i thought that would be fine with 256mb ext space

i cant see the space left on my ext because it doesnt show up in sd & phone storage settings.

and again im low on memory. the notification is there but it still works quite flawless because of my swap (96 mb swap partition with 60 swappiness)

any idea if perhaps during the restore tita backup messed it up?
[G1 Android Development] sparksco:
X

Well I just get sick of typing commands into terminal every time I flash a rom, and I'm sure other people are too, that's why I use it. I mean the patch is still there to use in /system/etc/.

Like I said before, I'm not sure about the no wipe thing, my apps were still showing up and I still had a ton of memory, but I was getting fc's on apps.

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[G1 Android Development] sparksco:
Try from home, its the most reliable site I have right now where I can upload things to a shared folder. Quite honestly I'm not even sure I'm going to continue development on these roms, due to the fact that everyone is complaining about stupid little stuff. Thank G1ForFun for complaining so much about a rom he hasn't even tested or flashed.
[G1 Android Development] G1ForFun:
Damn right I have never flashed this...because YOU are the one that cooked it. Edit: And you call yourself a dev? LOL!!!!

And I never complained about your rom, like you said, being as I never have flashed it, why would I complain about it?

Just giving you insight on swap (and the difference between a swap file and a swap partition) since you seem to know very very little about it.....

Oh and anything that doesn't have to be installed and run a service in the back ground is going to use less memory. Its not rocket science bud.

Edit2: Funny how you want to argue your points and then when I prove you wrong and you have nothing else to say, you continue to fight back with "Leave me alone! Get off my back! Why are you out to get me?!?!" If your gonna dish it, then take it. If you can't back up your points then stop posting utter nonsense all over these boards.
[G1 Android Development] sparksco:
All I said was I'm keeping the rom the way it is, the fr patch is still there to use, and I think people understand that by now. Not sure what you proved me wrong on, other than the fact that swap is something that you use, and that it probably uses a little less memory than the app. Big deal, the rom flies without "your way", and that really bothers you. I can do whatever I want, and so can everyone else, and maybe that bothers you too. Perhaps you live somewhere where someone can controll you and tell you what to do, well that's not me. The only thing bothering me is you.
[G1 Android Development] sparksco:
Blah blah blah
[G1 Android Development] G1ForFun:
I am posting in this thread because this is where you posted the non sense....when you post it in other threads I correct you there as well. Check chromatic thread for an example.

And its really not "my way" its just the more efficient way....which in turn is faster and uses less battery.

Anyways....I am sure some other people were educated in this process, so that's all I care about.
[G1 Android Development] sparksco:
I do check other threads, for example I was pointing out that the chromatic rom (probably the one you are using) attempts to run swap and compcache on first boot. If you decide however that you do not want to use swap, you are basically screwed on his rom. His scripts run on every boot, and not just the swap script, the all in one FR patch that is not needed. I have spoken directly with FR on these matters, that's why I made the firstboot.sh. His scripts slows down every boot time, and installs unnecessary patches like fb sync and other patches that have not been verified by anyone as running stable for cm6. Most of those patches were made for cm5. You would know all of this if you looked at the differences between our scripts and roms. I don't run swap on boot, fb sync patch that is no longer needed on cm6, or unverified patches in general. The only scripts I run from FR's patch, is the apps2ext partition ones. There's a history and informal tidbit for you and everyone else. Of course you probably already know all of this because your a dev and I'm not
[G1 Android Development] G1ForFun:
Check sig to see what rom I am running.

Feel stupid?:rolleyes:
[G1 Android Development] sparksco:
Well you seem pretty quick to judge people on their abilities to cook roms as you call it, as well as defend someone elses abilities when you have no idea what you are talking about. I was simply trying to let people know of a better way to run scripts in rom, per request of Firerat himself. He requested this method to me personaly. And no he did not tell me how I would accomplish this, he just suggested that it be made possible, ask him yourself.
[G1 Android Development] johnson8cyl:
wow xda wars

Thought this was a thread about a rom? Maybe questions/answers/requests? Things like that. Hopefully I'm right. Although i have learned a lot about swap ect. between here and chromatics page. Lol. How bout you argue about programming or something so the rest of us can learn a little about that. I would find that useful for educational purposes. Just a thought.:)

Now that that is out of the way.

I like this rom. Don't have a class 6 so i don't run swap. Running fine for me so far. I do like the way the script is here. Didn't care so much for having it run every boot taking so long. Have heard that firerat requested that and agree it is much better that way. Now i do have a question and request.

1. The download link only has one download for rom. I read that you made the overclock kernel an option (I believe). Does that mean there are supposed to be 2 diff. downloads or there is an option somewhere? I can only get 576. Thats fine for me but i am slightly curious.

2. Would it be possible to get an import/export option for cmparts ui like chromatic? I like that option with whatever colors. Maybe some kind of color theme? Just visible so we dont have to change them 1 by 1. Just a thought.

Good rom so far though. Ready to see if the battery life is any better. Getting better benchmark scores in setcpu. Runs really smooth for me so far. Thanks for your hard work.:D

I have a usa t-mobile mt3g btw. Haven't created a sig yet.
[G1 Android Development] crodgers79:
Don't let this "discussion" get you down

Sparksco,

I just wanted to add my support for your efforts, despite the "discussion" regarding the use of the Swapper2 app versus scripts. While the other gentleman may have a valid technical point, unfortunately he's going about this in a less-than-respectful manner.

I guess maybe I'm a lot older than the average XDA user (I'm 49), but I just don't see the value in arguing with anyone anymore (and in your case being forced to argue), but I do very much see see great value in what you're doing with this ROM! As I've said before, yours was the first Froyo implementation that gave me tons of apps space without resorting to the MTD FR patch or trying to use the inane Froyo Apps2sd method which uses the fat32 partition. Your ROM worked/works extremely well "right-out-of-the box" and for that I'm grateful!

The bottom-line here is that none of us, including the Master Cyanogen himself knows _everything_ there is to know about the Android OS; I'm certainly no expert and I've loaded probably over 100 different ROMs since being an early adopter of the G1; thus, for me or anyone else for that matter, to lecture you, would just be wrong. Sharing knowledge is what it's all about and hopefully that sharing can be done in the most respectful manner possible since arguing gets us nowhere.

Thanks again for all of your efforts!

Chris R.
[G1 Android Development] sparksco:
Yes sorry but my internet has not been good today, but the OC version is up now. I am uploading the backup files. Yes I posted my scripts on firerat's page to confirm, and he didn't respond. There is no option to pm him, so I'll take that as a everything looks ok with it. Otherwise he probably would of corrected me on my comment. My comment is within the last 5-10 pages on his all in one patch post if you would like to see the scripts, just a fyi. Or you can just sort through my post on my profile, but probably easier the other way lol. Thank you all for your support, and please leave feedback if you have flashed this rom, or any questions you might have before flashing. Most everything about this rom is already in the OP or the comments, so please refer to both. Well back to work for me, talk to you all later!
[G1 Android Development] tman7510:
Glad to hear...can't wait!!
[G1 Android Development] xxpada:
anywaise guys i am not downloading apps correctly with no boot problems..

i partititiond to ext4 no swap and ext 1024 size (juss in case i get app crazy lol)(8gbsd)

i wiped and flashd did all that.

cleard cache in market.. which i think mite of been the problem of it all lol but who cares this mod is so fast i love it and it works properly now!

-now i dont feel like such a chump next to my bro's mytouch 3g slide lol

anywaise thanks for the help guys now that i gott this app ill try to post more ^^
[G1 Android Development] LOONEyRR:
wait, are you guys flashin the spoof the flashin everything right after, cause when i flashed it it said to reboot, so i did that theeennnnn flashed everything.

edit: oh yah. and which spoof are you guys usin? there's 2. i was usin the one that didnt have the extra numbers on it.
[G1 Android Development] mjybarr:
Flash spoof, the one without the numbers, then go to console, type reboot recovery, once in recovery, flash rom, gapps, and kernel.
[G1 Android Development] blahbl4hblah:
Out of no where just got 53 mb free on my phone
[G1 Android Development] LOONEyRR:
oh, ok. yah i did that. only i just rebooted phone and held down home. ha.

thats insaine. and i just turned jit on and got 4.52 linpack. boom. lmao. for some reason i always feel like the phones still faster when jits off, but i think ima try it with it on for a bit, and see how things go. ha.
[G1 Android Development] sparksco:
Ratings Down

Ok so I just noticed that the ratings for this thread went down, now I really don't even want to continue this anymore
[G1 Android Development] johnson8cyl:
Who's ratings? U talking rom Bible ratings?
[G1 Android Development] blahbl4hblah:
WTH, how'd you get 4.5? that's really good
[G1 Android Development] sparksco:
No on the main G1 android development screen. I'm abandoning these projects
[G1 Android Development] blahbl4hblah:
why???? Nooooo
[G1 Android Development] johnson8cyl:
I don't know why that is. This is by far the best my phone has ever run. That's insane
[G1 Android Development] sparksco:
Well because it doesn't seem that a lot of people appriate the rom by rating it down. I removed my donations link, and am taking some time off.
[G1 Android Development] Spakainz:
Spraksco NOOOOO!!!!!
[G1 Android Development] crisvillani:
hey man we all appreciate your rom, it's f### ing awesome , this rom is what keeps our phones alive, and working amazing, please reconsider your decision because this rom is piece of art : D
[G1 Android Development] Spakainz:
The best ROM, dont leave us alone, Sparksco
[G1 Android Development] crizznaig:
lolwot... really?

idk man... you are about the only ROM worth using any more... sole reason i've yet to go out and get a new phone, b/c i like my G1, and you make me keep liking it...

well please re-think.... also Ratings on a thread are not the way to gauge popularity of a rom my good man, nor is it a way to evaluate how much the work/rom is appreciated. Keep in mind any user can turn around and rate up or down.. could be all the haters out there...

good luck in whatever you choose...
[G1 Android Development] LOONEyRR:
idk. lol. its never gone that high after. ive got 32mb swap 60 swappiness, no widgets, cc off and jit on. and the ram hack. i might've just caught my phone when it was in a good mood. lol
[G1 Android Development] LOONEyRR:
wow, yah. i feel the same way as everyone else. ur roms the only one i've been runnin for a while. u make legit roms. so what if ur not always gonna be on top. ur still on the front page everytime i get on. THAT should mean somethin, dont u think?
[G1 Android Development] pudgedaddy:
If you're not developing for this then sad day for us. Sorry you feel that way. If you look at the total number of votes ( which is 13 as of this post) If you're gonna let a few asshats that don't know a good thing when they see it then you need to get thicker skin. Most people in this thread really do appreciate the efforts you do to make froyo enjoyable on the G1.
[G1 Android Development] sparksco:
I understand, it's just that as soon as I changed my radio and spl I can't even flash my new roms. I've been having a problem where I can't sign in to my account after first boot. I think I'll just start from scratch and see how it goes.
[G1 Android Development] LOONEyRR:
yah. thats a really good point. ha. only 13 votes. lol. i say everyone give this guy a 5 star rating!! ha. and whats the issue with the roms? why wont it let you sign in with the new stuff?
[G1 Android Development] sparksco:
Well because I have no idea what I am doing with this new spl and radio and how to flash the roms. But I just found out that all I need to do is add the new boot loader to the asserts check on the updater-script for the rom and then resign it. This way we will not need to use the spoof to patch our recoveries into thinking that we have a different spl then we actually do. So hopefully today, I can get this rom running smooth by only flashing rom and gapps only, with the kernel installer in the rom already.
[G1 Android Development] anghellic:
Yeah I had swap setup just about the same as you only 25 swappiness but I changed it to 30 and turned jit on and I'm averaging 3.6 in Linpack now. Many Thanks.
[G1 Android Development] LOONEyRR:
sweet. good to hear you're still in the game sparks. :D

PS. in ur op. you should add "If you like my Roms and don't wanna donate. the least you can do is rate me 5 stars!" :D
[G1 Android Development] blahbl4hblah:
Good to hear, I'm trying out swapiness at 60 right now. Seems just as stable and fast, I'm going to test it for a while

30 Swapiness is best for me haha, also

IF you want the start up to be even faster I use autostarts

I'm not sure how to use it, but it speeds up the startup

No it should say "If you use my roms everyday, give me 5 stars rating"
[G1 Android Development] D0NNY.:
I gave 5 stars because I prefer sparks roms over the others :)
[G1 Android Development] santelm:
Agree,so far the best roms yet,and fully fuctional too!!!don't know why he would quit,but man you're one of the best in this stuff!!!
[G1 Android Development] sparksco:
Well it looks like tmobile or google has blocked my gmail account, because I made another one just fine and it let me sign in. Now how do you expect me to continue due to this???
[G1 Android Development] blahbl4hblah:
WHAT? how could or why did they block it?

it doesn't make sense at all
[G1 Android Development] sparksco:
Probably because I'm always signing into my account when I'm flashing and testing. I may have to try and contact tmobile tomorrow. Just sucks I don't have any of my contacts.
[G1 Android Development] johnson8cyl:
I hope something get figured out bro. Would really like to see this continued. I voted as well. I guess i hadn't done it yet. Not really something i think about when i get on. Sorry for that. I hope everything works out.
[G1 Android Development] blahbl4hblah:
This is stupid of me, but swap partition OR the swapsize? haha

Cause i've always used the swapsize instead of the partition haha
[G1 Android Development] LOONEyRR:
yah. haha, there u go! ha
[G1 Android Development] mjybarr:
Ok, so for a couple of days I have been on the new/hacked radio and spl, which is running great on my G1. I have tested a few things and I have found a way to make your phone faster. First off I will tell you my settings.

CM settings: Everything unchecked, except for lock home in memory and vm heap size is at default

Spare Parts: Normal speed(at fast speed, it tend to lag from transitioning from screen to screen) kind of ironic haha.

Setcpu: 537max/245min (no profiles enabled)

Swap 32 and 40 swappiness

All these settings above are great settings, but what I have found is with those alone my available ram is somewhere around 15-21mbs, which is good. But it can be better. So I reverted to going back to "minfree manager". Now my available ram is setting around 28-34mbs constant, even after I open/close apps! Also battery life has extended.

I tried "xda superpower", but it drained my battery pretty fast(which I believe that app wasn't really made for our G1's). So far minfree has done the job!!! Saved battery and helped speed up my phone. By the way, I have it set to "aggressive". I still get calls, texts, and emails. Minfree doesn't kill the important functions of a phone.

Try minfree and let me know what your experiences are.
[G1 Android Development] Trek55:
The only possible reasons that they block you, is because they suspect that your email causing spamming ..
[G1 Android Development] xillius200:
Sparksco m8 if you can't sign into your gmail i'd say it's most likely google not t-mobile also doubt it's cause you sign in so much lol I sign in a lot of times xD it's mad anywhere speak to google and find out what happened cause that ain't right xD
[G1 Android Development] sparksco:
Phone Update

Well I just reverted back to stock donut and guess what, I can sign in no problem. I suspect that google has found a way to block my sign in using setupwizard.apk, because donut uses providers.apk to sign in. Now I'm really confused. Anyhow, I will see what I can do if I even remember how to unroot my phone, I know it's not to complicated.

Edit Maybe I just had a bad flash with the new radio
[G1 Android Development] LOONEyRR:
yah. it couldve been a bad flash, cause there's alot of other chefs out there and i havent read about anyone else havin issues. so good luck bro.
[G1 Android Development] crisvillani:
hey man u should post this rom in the htc magic section because this is definetly the greatest froyo rom for 32A magics, i could help answering questions in the thread if you cant aswell , just a suggestion just trying to get this rom to as many people as possible!!:D

Crisvillani
[G1 Android Development] Spakainz:
Sparksco do you plan a kernel 4 new radio?
[G1 Android Development] blahbl4hblah:
I like those settings, I looked in the cyanogenmod forums and read that jit off is alot better actually, it only helps in starting things up only. as for using minfree manager; i didn't like it i use auto memory manager, i'm getting at least 40+ constantly.

of course with jit off, the linpack scores will be lower for sure but

my tests before, i got 2.3 as my best if i remember at 537mhz. while at 614mhz i had 2.6
[G1 Android Development] blahbl4hblah:
There's a kernel for the new radio that's NOT biffmod, 6.35.7 i think was the kernel not sure

it's used in the cyanogenmod forum i think
[G1 Android Development] sparksco:
Update

Well guys it looks like it's the end of my g1, I mean it's not bricked, but it is having a serious issue of some type, which I believe to be a hardware problem or failure. My phone works fine other than I can't sign into my google account on these type of roms anymore. Even on stock 1.6 DMD64 I could sign in, but the market would always force close with a network error. So, instead of risking even furthur damage to my g1, I have decided that it's best for me to just trade it in at radio shack to get the g2 for $100. But don't give up, I am searching for someone or someone's to take over the thread and manage it the best you can. I will still be active in the discussions as much as possible, but I won't have a device to test on. Thank you all for your support.
[G1 Android Development] sparksco:
The only person that can make kernels for this spl is ezterry, because it's his port, so I'm hoping that he will update his kernel installer soon, because his kernel's work fine on this.
[G1 Android Development] blahbl4hblah:
NOOOOOOOOOOOO, mmmm what if you found a g1 for cheap? haha

You'd be back in business right? IF I knew how to do things, I'd offer my help but I don't know much and I don't got a G1

EDIT: No matter what this rom will be my daily rom till my mytouch fails on me then I might go get the 4G
[G1 Android Development] sparksco:
You should really consider the g2. I mean it's made out of titanium alloy, it has a keyboard, it can be overclocked to 1.9 ghz, and can support 32GB micro sdcards. Plus it has flash, stock 2.2 froyo, and it's already been perminatly rooted. Cyanogenmod is already working on it.

Edit: $100 dollars really isn't very much for a high end phone.
[G1 Android Development] blahbl4hblah:
I guess so haha, but it'll be a long time till I get the g2. I'm currently in the process of building my new computer which will just cost be $500 onboard video card
[G1 Android Development] Royalknight6190:
Dont get me wrong the G2 is a great phone and I wanted that phone for the longest time but then The Mytouch 4G came along and got me wanting it more cause its way more superior. It has also been permanently rooted, it also supports 32GB micro sdcards, it also has flash and is running 2.2 Froyo with espresso. CM 6 already has been flashed and working on it. The hardware inside the MT4G is way better then the G2. You also get the forward facing camera and you get swype. The MT4G also has a titanium alloy back and edging. Yeah it doesnt have the keyboard but they lost points with me when the downgraded the keyboard to only 4 rows, (No more dedicated number keys.) Just saying.

Like my PM said to you Sparks sorry to see you go. We will miss the competition. enjoy to G2, I know they need some good roms built for them. Have fun.
[G1 Android Development] sparksco:
Oh yeah for sure buddy, the mytouch 4g is superior than the g2. But one of the things that I liked about the g1, is that it gave me the challenge of my life with android development lol. I mean if I had a perfect phone right now, there really wouldn't be much for me to do. So I figured the g2 will give me that challenge, and push me more to learn and do things I haven't done yet, the g2 journey.