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[Desire General] williap:
Same here, not had thing thing update automatically since day one.

Don't fancy doing a hard reset unless I know more then one person has had this fix it.

Anybody tried this and been successful?
[Desire General] RTP:
Yep, same for me, unable to add a News account :-(
[HD2 Accessories] me:
Two parts to this question-

1st part kind of a poll. Who thinks it is necessary or helpful to put a screen protector on the T-Mo HD2, and why?

Of course I want to protect the screen on my HD2, as much as possible. I think the screen is already scratch resistant, and I am not sure if a screen protector would add anything in that regard. I don't see how a screen protector could possibly protect against breakage, or internal LCD damage.

I have seen some reports, of screen sensitivity being diminished by screen protectors.

Of course the companies that make them, will try to sell people on it. That is called "manufactured demand", creating a need that isn't there.

Your opinion? Do they really help protect the phone?

I am about to purchase some items from Amazon. I see they have one screen protector (manufacturer Amzer) for $6.95 with free shipping (if total order is more than $25, which mine is). I haven't heard of that company before, but it sounds good from the description (no user reviews). (It even says "anti-reflective" and "free from fingerprints", and those are two problems the screen has--fingerprint magnet, and very reflective. Don't know if those claims are true though.) Has anyone tried this brand? Any good?

The link for that is: http://www.amazon.com/Amzer-Screen-..._14?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1281121428&sr=8-14

They even have some cheaper, a dollar or less, with $3 shipping. Do a search on Amazon for HD2 screen protector.

The following link includes a rubber case such as the one that comes with the unit, plus a screen protector, for $1.54 +2.98 shipping: http://www.amazon.com/HTC-T-Mobile-...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1281121428&sr=8-1

Another is only 46 cents plus shipping.

Are there really any differences in these? They are only tiny pieces of plastic. Seems like they should cost less than a buck, not $10 or $15, as some do.

In any case, I am thinking of getting the Amzer, as it can have free shipping with the rest of my order, and sounds good. Anyone here used it?

Still undecided though--whether there is any point in getting a screen protector at all, or just one of those "manufactured demand" products, that really doesn't help anything.

Opinions?
[HD2 Accessories] Asquared:
Between this forum and the official T-Mobile forum on their website, I'm seeing quite a few instances of shattered LCD screens from people dropping their HD2s. You'll also see that there are now many replacement screens showing up on eBay, for example. My point is that you might consider acquiring more than just a screen protector for your HD2.

I personally purchased an Otterbox Defender case for my HD2. It has a built-in screen protector as one of its layers of protection, and the multi-part case appears to thoroughly protect the phone (including from my 7 year old). There are lots of cases out there, so I'm not actually suggesting that you get one from Otterbox (and I don't work for them). Some people say, for example, the the Defender case is overkill, and makes the phone too bulky for their taste.

I'm just saying that a $100 to $300 phone might warrant more than a screen protector.
[HD2 Accessories] GregL:
in my opinion there is no such thing as to much protection

My car has airbags everywhere ,but i still wear my seat belt:D
[HD2 Accessories] -FuRBz-:
def put a screen protector, that is the first thing you do when you get a phone like the hd2
[HD2 Accessories] calc:
Most things break when you drop them... it's called gravity. There's no solution for clumsiness you'll have to get something like the otterbox for some gravity proof protection. I've considered getting the otterbox myself but it takes away so much of the aesthetics of the phone....

My HD2 has a screen protector and a well padded leather case.... i've been doing this for all my previous phones. Sure i've had some slips and tumbles but the leather case protects most the impacts no problems.
[HD2 Accessories] me:
A tennis ball doesn't break when you drop it!

Seriously, one would think that they might have strong enough materials available today, so that a phoine would not break if dropped.

But certainly--a screen protector would not protect one iota against dropping!

What exactly, does a screen protector protect against?

Do you also put one on your laptop screen?
[HD2 Accessories] pc12ve:
If scratches on the screen bother you, screen protector will help with preventing that. The HD2 is not as scratch resistance as some of the youtube videos lead you to believe. I am careful with mine and still manages to get some minor scratches on it. When it comes to preventing the phone from breaking during a drop, I think your best bet is a otterbox defender.
[HD2 Accessories] ikoiko:
I put a screen protector on my HD2 I have no sensativity issues but the feel of the screen protector is obvious when you slide your finger on the screen. My wife does not have the screen protector and it feels smooth to the touch but there is no difference as far as sensativity goes I used a zagg invisible shiled.
[HD2 Accessories] jlczl:
No scratches on my screen eventhough I carry it with keys and coins in front pocket sometimes. Only cracked screen from dropping it! Getting Otterbox Commuter case for my new replacement HD2 but NO screen protector. This screen doesn't get scratched very easily at all.
[HD2 Accessories] Susasama:
I say get it...

Filed my insurance claim today, should get it tomorrow. Free next day air.

Oh, and bought commuter case too. A bit late it seems though..
[HD2 Accessories] jlczl:
No screen protector would have prevented that. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[HD2 Accessories] Susasama:
Probably not, but since that incident, i'm going all out.
[HD2 Accessories] poeticwun:
Thanks for the links!

I have one of the Invisible shield covers on mine & i like the feeling of knowing if the protector comes off ill get to see the screen BRAND NEW while i'm replacing the cover.

On an ass-backwards note, i also have the Body Glove case with the kickstand from T-Mobile and the only reason is for the kickstand. It feels like if i dropped the phone the case would shatter my phone would be goin to bed dead.

I am pretty careful with my stuff but as others have mentioned, theres no such thing as too much... im probably going to order that same black case though.

as for the screen, you never know... i'd rather be safe than sorry. I feel putting a $10 screen protector on a $500 phone isnt a big deal.
[HD2 Accessories] a320.av8r:
If it's cold enough it will...lol

Seriously... Otterbox rules!
[HD2 Accessories] sirphunkee:
Well, materials like that do exist, ones that could make the phone near indestructable. Unfortunately, they're prohibitively bulky or expensive and would jack up the price and/or size of the phone. The treated glass used on the screen is the best attempt at a compromise on this that's really available.

I've honestly been using my HD2 since March with nothing but the rubber cover that HTC provided in the box, and I have yet to get a single scratch on it...but, I know I'm probably just fortunate with that. I have a screen protector on my TP2, and I know that it's definitely saved me from scratches on a number of occassions....but then again that screen isn't anywhere near as hard as the one on the HD2.

I've got an otterbox commuter series case on the way now, but I'll probably try it without the screen protector at first. I reeeeeally like the feel of the bare glass ;)
[HD2 Accessories] Asquared:
Corning developed a glass many years ago that was dubbed "Gorilla glass" for its toughness and durability. I used to work summers for them, and at the time it was a nice invention that no one could find a use for -- we didn't have widescreen computer monitors or HDTVs, or cell phones, for that matter. Besides, it was considered expensive to manufacture. I read recently that Corning is now testing this old, very tough but thin glass for use in large TV screens and, soon, for cell phone screens. Maybe this will increase the durability of the touch screens for future phones. But for now, cases and screen protectors (should) rule the day.
[HD2 Accessories] sirphunkee:
Yes, actually Gorilla glass has already been used on a cellphone (or more than one perhaps), I belive the Motorola Droid was the first one. From what I understand, the HD2 doesn't have the acutal Gorilla Glass, but rather some similar hardness treatment.
[HD2 Accessories] TKruzze:
Where did you find an Otterbox Commuter case to fit a TMO-US HTC HD2? I've checked on eBay and Amazon and they only have the Int'l version available.
[HD2 Accessories] ddgarcia05:
At otterbox of course.

http://www.otterbox.com/htc-cases/h...cases-u.s./htc-hd2-commuter-series-case-u.s./

And to add to the whole screen protector on mine. I never had one until I dropped it and it landed face down on a pile of small hard dry rocks. Then slid across the ground. It made two small but noticeable deep scratches.
[HD2 Accessories] TKruzze:
I should have figured that. I'm just not a fan of paying retail. Otterbox sells their cases for 50% more than sites like Amazon, NewEgg, and eBay. Now that the U.S. version's supply is becoming more available my guess is that these places will begin selling the U.S. version as well.
[Desire General] setspeed:
My phone seems to suffer really poor battery life.

Checking on my handset under the testing menu, phone info, I find that my signal strength while I'm at my workplace is just -109dBm.

Does this poor of a signal mean my phone has to work harder to maintain a connection, therefore caning my battery more?
[Desire General] drewy:
yes, your thoughts are correct. A poor signal forces the phone to bump up the power to try and improve the signal.
[Desire General] setspeed:
Anything I can do, aside from use 2G instead of 3G to conserve power?
[Desire General] aindow:
I found that my phone using WiFi to sync used less power compared to relying on the phone network alone in areas of poor signal.
[Desire General] bubblesmoney:
109dbm is pretty poor so your battery life would be poor. you would lose the signal at 113dbm. quicker switch to PRL provider happens if you fiddle the test setting menu. and this has an affect on battery life too inadvertantly as the switch to PRL provider happens quicker and battery power is not lost mindlessly bonking the airwaves to get a signal. but the PRL switch will happen only after the parent signal is lost, if it keeps fluctuating between parent and PRL signal then you will still be losing more power. another way would be to edit the PRL file settings which i am not familiar with but can be done as per some posts on xda or to force it to stay on PRL provider which can also be done as per some posts on xda but untrodden territory for me but am exploring it for the moment by reading up on it. most are explanations on evdo and not hsdpa / umts so am not keen on going down the editing PRL files option unless i can see some anecdotal evidence given by braver people who have treaded down that path before.

or you could go the easy way and buy a signal repeater (fixed or potable versions available) and get better signal and battery life consequently as a bonus.
[Desire General] drew2d1:
My battery life is pretty good.
[Desire General] enuazeal:
2G eats more battery than 3G, but you must have strong 3G signal, if it is weak than u get higher battery drain on 3G, and also if u use automatic GSM/WCDMA on that switch from 2G to 3G and reverse you loose a lot of battery power.
[Desire General] bubblesmoney:
for battery life issues read this link http://myhtcdesire.com/tipstweaks/t...about-li-ion-batteries-but-were-afraid-to-ask

for network signal issues and attenuation read this link http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=7544011#post7544011

hope the links help understand the issues a bit better even if it is not a solution!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MasterBratac:
Hello guys,

I´m a happy Desire owner since 2 weeks now and have a little question.

I noticed the following:

In areas with bad network coverage, signal shows (E)dge, or if it´s even mor bad it shows (G)PRS. That OK.

But in areas with good coverage it shows 3G (UMTS) all the time, and only if I transfer data, eg syncing email, it´s showing (H)SDPA, and switches back to 3G.

Is that normal?

I wonder as this is my first android device, and all my older WiMo phones where showing (H)SDPA all the time.

I´ve read else where, that often changing networks need a lot of battery power.

Oh, I´m using T-Mobile in germany with an unbraded Desire running 2.2.

I noticed this also with 2.1

Thank you!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MasterBratac:
Perhaps the question was´nt clear enough ... sorry.

I mean, I this the same at your phones, or do they show (H) all the time?

Thank you again!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mercianary:
Mine does this too.

If you want to lock to a single network type *#*#info#*#* in the dialer.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bubblesmoney:
In the UK mine shows hsdpa most of the time, sometimes gprs when roaming. It does not show anything when on WiFi, just shows the bars. If you press from home screen the menu - settings - about phone - network, then you see the signal strength and type of signal .
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MasterBratac:
Thats what I thought it should do ... so it seems my SIM is having a problem.

Yesterday I put a friend´s SIM in it (also using T-Mobile) and it shows H all the time and never 3G. If Network is bad it switches to E and then back to H.

Now I´ve ordered a new SIM, so lets see ...

OK my SIM is around 12 years now ... 1998 ...
[General Questions and Answers] Daniu123:
Pls help
[General Questions and Answers] psychocyst:
i don't know if you can completely remove the panel but you can edit a file named hh_fw_title.png in the \windows folder on your device to make it completely transparent...

this works on my manila 2.0 on my qvga device...

should work for you too i guess if the file naming scheme is still the same...

you could post your hh_fw_title.png file in your cell and i'd be happy to edit it myself if you don't have any editing tools (like photoshop or paint.net)...
[Streak 5 General] bguzmanz2:
Hey guys so my battery has been stuck on 1% since noon, I like to drain it completely once in a while so I have wifi on, watched some videos, played a few games and its still on. Any chance to reset battery history to get accurate readings. On rooted phones you can by going to recovery but I haven't rooted yet. Suggestions? Thanks

P's its now 2:30 and its still going
[Streak 5 General] lufc:
Looks like it is Possessed i would get a Priest in for an Excommunication LOL :)
[Streak 5 General] fards:
mine turns itself off at 4% so I don't understand how it shows 1%. But hey if it does fantastic! maybe it's drawing power from the ether :D
[Streak 5 General] lufc:
I have never let mine go below 20% but think I will let mine go dead
[Streak 5 General] bguzmanz2:
i should get a priests help. i dont mind it at all but it's really unreliable to know how much battery is left.
[EVO 4G General] davejet:
*******

Here is the latest just in and probably the best way to do it

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=748021

This thread claims they can roll back the PRI from the 1.3x to 1.4

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=748335

Below is the old way to do it and helped to get point in the right direction but do not use

This is huge if its true!!!

IF you did not root yet and did not upgrade to 2.2.

Then using Unrevoked 3 you can root, and then use simple root .2

upgrade to a custom rom for 2.2, keep your PRI 1.4 for the best 3g speeds, and get wifi tether!!!!

The post is at

//forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=130864

;)

****

New info from DeathBySnuggles post #4 below was able to after using unrevoked 3 then used simple root .2 and was able to keep PRI 1.4

This is HUGE

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[EVO 4G General] MaliciousOne:
....... groundbreaking ..

....

..

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[EVO 4G General] Ar3ohdee:
Can I go back??? I want ROOT !!!!!!!!! Bad OTA 2.2 Froyo, BAD! I want to hit "undo"
[EVO 4G General] DeathBySnuggles:
I am personally running Ava's V3rA froyo rom and am running pri 1.40_003. There is a discussion about it in the development forum. I'm not sure if its an anomaly but I orginially rooted with unrevoked 3 then simpleroot. Not sure if it was just a glitch or what. I will know this weekend when I do the same to my wife's phone.
[EVO 4G General] sgt. slaughter:
Enjoy the non full root of unrevoked. This is NOT groundbreaking right now. Unrevoked alone does NOT give you full root NAND access to write the system which is why some Roms will NOT work with it.
[EVO 4G General] davejet:
hUGE

oKAY THIS IS HUGE AND GROUND BREAKING

Please right down exactly everything you did!!!

You have total rooted and still have PRI 1.40

?????

Did you unrevoked3 then do av'a froy rom then run simple root or what exactly and if you replicate on your wifes phone please post your exact steps.

Thanks a Million
[EVO 4G General] edtate:
Sorry to correct your ignorance, but from Unrevoked 3 and later, full nand unlock was added.....That's why in the OP it says

"Then using Unrevoked 3.1 you can root, upgrade to a custom rom for 2.2, keep your PRI 1.4 for the best 3g speeds, and get wifi tether!!!!"

. Pay attention bud.....
[EVO 4G General] rjmjr69:
hahahahahahha
[EVO 4G General] sgt. slaughter:
If this is infact the case then why do Devs still say Unrevoked is not a full root. you can do unrevoked and still upload some custom roms, but some will cause errors if not fully rooted.

I'd believe if it did in fact give full root then you wouldn't see every dev saying that if you dont have NAND then do one of the many manual unlocks in the dev section.

This is from the kernel thread directly:

If unrevoked did give full root accesss it would of been much more widely talked about on here and not just 1 person saying they noticed it. The 2nd person that reported keeping the pri, used simple root AFTER unrevoked and even still has an error at times though as its being discussed in another thread now.
[EVO 4G General] DeathBySnuggles:
I could NOT flash the fresh rom until after I used simpleroot. Unrevoked 3 was not enough.

The "error" that I still receive is when entering the bootloader there is a message that appears three times saying "no image found". And forgive my naivete but if the zip image is supposed to live on my SD card, it doesn't and never has. I've looked.

Despite the error, I have had no issue at all flashing roms, themes, kernels, boot animations, fonts etc.

Again, my process was root with unrevoked 3. Lived with that for a while. Then did the ENTIRE simpleroot process, step 1 included. Then I started successfully flashing roms. I'm on pri 1.40_003, prl 60669, and the latest .28 radio.
[EVO 4G General] nikkibailey1968:
I used Unrevoked 3 based on step-by-step instructions found at unlockr.com. However, little did I know, even though one of the steps said I would have NAND unlocked if I followed instructions, I didn't have full NAND unlocked. So I went back and used toast's step 2 found in the development forum to unlock NAND. Now I've flashed Fresh 3.1.0.1 along with netarchy's froyoized-3.7.6b kernel and have 4G, free wifi, the works. So far no problems other than draining battery. My PRI version is 1.34_003. Phone is working super stupid fast at 4G speeds.

FYI the only downfall of the netarchy kernel (which I needed to get the wifi to work) is the camera goes back to 3mp, but who cares...that's still huge in my book.

Hope that helps
[EVO 4G General] DeathBySnuggles:
Was your camera set to 8mp before flashing netarchy's kernel? If so take a picture and check the details. Chances are the resolution is 3264x1952 which is 8mp. Lots of discussion about it in that thread.
[EVO 4G General] ghostface223:
im on fresh 3.1 with netarch 3.7.8b pri is 1.4 used unrevoked 3
[EVO 4G General] Sporkman:
Rofl with cm6 how do u check the pri ? I've looked with no luck
[EVO 4G General] nikkibailey1968:
DeathBySnuggles: I had indeed had camera setting before flashing netarchy of 8mp....now with new kernel, I'm getting 2048x1216

But I'm not going to complain....with these settings I was able to take about 30 pics plus 5 4minute videos at a concert last night without running out of space on my sd card :)

Thinking about trying his new kernel, but I"m very happy with the way my phone is running right now, but will keep people posted if I do
[EVO 4G General] sgt. slaughter:
Settings-> About Phone-> Software Information-> PRI is next to last item right above PRL.
[EVO 4G General] DeathBySnuggles:
Strange. Most people are seeing whatever they were set to before the kernel is what the camera is actually shooting. In fact, people are flashing the stock kernel, setting the camera resolution, then flashing netatchy's with success. But if you are happy with 3mp then no worries. I'm one of those I paid for 8mp I want 8mp dammit people!
[EVO 4G General] sgt. slaughter:
be sure to reply back in the other thread and follow that one since you've got this info now.
[EVO 4G General] Sporkman:
:eek::eek::eek:

i dont have Software Information

i have

status

battery use

legal info

system tutorial
[EVO 4G General] sgt. slaughter:
Then I assume they changed up the settings organization somewhat in FroYo. that or your rom cm6 did. the info will be under something in settings though im sure.
[EVO 4G General] Sporkman:
yep it's normally there for sure strange
[EVO 4G General] davejet:
*******************

I am trying to replicate your results but want to make sure I get it exact!

I have stock with the 2 OTA's installed:

Shipped ROM 1.32.651.1 1.39.00.05.31 25043_R04 Eclair 2.1 4 June 2010 Yes

OTA Update #1 1.32.651.6 1.39.00.05.31 25043_R04 Eclair 2.1 4 June 2010 Yes

OTA Update #2 1.47.651.1 2.05.00.06.10 25641_R01 Eclair 2.1 28 June 2010 Yes

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You say u used Unrevoked 3 not 3.1

My first problem is I have googled for it and can only find 3.1

I found the differences are:

•v3.1:

•Fixed “Communications with phone unexpectedly interrupted.” error occurring on Windows version.

•Updated to ClockworkMod Recovery 2.5.0.1

•Program sets su permissions even when su is present.

•v3.0:

•Add support for Droid Eris.

•Add the ability to function even without root on all supported phones.

•Updated to ClockworkMod Recovery 2.0.2.4.

•Renamed to unrevoked3.

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I have also tried to found simpleroot .2 right now the only download shows

SimpleRoot OTA 1.47.651.1

I think using the exact versions you did may be important.

If you can either post the versions you used or links that would be great!!1

Thanks
[EVO 4G General] davejet:
what other thread??

:cool:

What other thread are you referring to
[EVO 4G General] sgt. slaughter:
sorry wasn't referring to you specifically as the other poster and I had discussed this before he posted his info here.

The issue was originally being discussed in the DEV section here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=694034&page=11

and thats what i was referring to as one of the Dev's had asked a question for them to check something.
[EVO 4G General] sgt. slaughter:
Still waiting for you to show something from unrevoked that states there root process is a FULL root with NAND unlock. if you check the few posts up the changelong for unrevoked says zip about the addition of full root being added.

so maybe you are the one that needs to Pay attention bud.
[EVO 4G General] bradley26:
Hopefully it gets figured out.
[EVO 4G General] SilverZero:
The rumor is that some ROMs will flash without having to write to NAND, so Unrevoked 3 will allow that. I'm not sure what those ROMs are or why they would be different from others that do need NAND access, I'm just reporting what Google told me.