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[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] antoniouslj:
it really depends on a few things:

can you survive without a trackball? if you do any remote desktop stuff, a trackball is almost essential. also some games work better with a trackball as opposed to your fat finger covering up most of the screen (including whatever you're trying to control).

do you currently not have a case on your n1? you'll def need one with the captivate (or any galaxy s phone), as they aren't built like the n1. they don't have a unibody design that resists overall damage to the phone. if you get a galaxy s device, i highly recommend getting a hard case for it.

can you live with not always having the latest and greatest developments on your device?being that the nexus is now the second google developer phone, you can almost guarantee that it'll have everything FIRST. any developing directly from google or the other XDA devs will most likely be implemented on the nexus before any other phone.

just a few things to consider. i'm sure someone will add some more...

you could also think of it this way: would you be willing to trade in your honda civic tuner (with nos, supercharger, and the works) for a mustang/camaro or equivalent?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Blueman101:
I've actually seriously considered this (but for the Vibrant) and come to the conclusion that you will not be disappointed by either choice. One thing you could do is post a similar question in the Captivate forums but ask what people opinion of the captivate is from previous nexus one users.

On the note of the AMOLED screen and the gpu its a matter of importance? Do you play a lot of games? If so the gpu will definitely be a necessity. If you watch a lot of media the screen will be a must.

Do you mod/plan to mod your phone a lot? If so then the Nexus might still be the better choice.

Also the trackball is gone so there is no led notifications on the Galaxy S phones.

-Cheers
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] android.activate:
Well I havent had an opportunity/requirements to do any Remote Desktops so havent used trackball to its full potential.. but I love the trackball notifications.

I do have a hard case and a lovely one for my N1 [Seidio]. Yes I would ofcourse get a hard case for any phone that I buy.

Third point is really important. I am a CM source builder.. and I do that almost every 2 days from my laptop. I would hate to not be able to do that to the Captivate..

Choices Choices.. Cant pick one.. :confused:
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonsmith709:
Hi

I had the UK version the Galaxy s and I have to say I was very disappointed. The lag problem is a massive issue after owning the Nexus and the Touchwiz is very cartoon like but that's a matter of opinion, and if you try and use Launcher Pro it starts to slow down even more. The gps another known issue does not work and the internet is slow. The screen is fab and so is the HD video but that's it. The build is poor and as for regular updates from Samsung ? well you know there history.

I always said that I would not have a Samsung for one reason or another but this looked great, but I'm bitterly disappointed and with Handsets like this coming out, it's going to put new owners of Android off.

So I have sent mine back and got a new Nexus as my daughter had my other and she prefers it to her IPhone 3GS........Good girl :)

Sorry if I ranted on.......
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] android.activate:
The question is posted on Captivate forums.. awaiting feedback.

Yes, I love playing games, I play HomeRunBattle 3D, and Asphalt5 mostly. HrB 3D is still manageable, but Asphalt 5 is a power hungry beast that brings the Nexus to its knees...

But alas.. I am an android developer and I love the mods and and trying out stuff..

Questions.. Questions... (TODO or NOT TODO ) !!
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] te_quiero_forever_girl:
If u love to flash and tweak, then the N1 will do the trick :)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bedwa:
Exactly. Its harder to tweak the galaxy series. I love my n1, but have been drooling over the captivate.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bcpk:
Gingerbread is just around the corner, and there will be a whole new wave of devices out that blow the SGS away. I see the Galaxy S as more of a side-grade, I'm afraid.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MaximReapage:
Don't you lose "unlimited" data if you upgrade your contract with ATT?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
i think you can keep your unlimited data if you were grandfathered in.

anyway if you get the captivate you should flash stock android on it immediately. i played with a captivate 2 days ago, and it was actually not as smooth as the nexus running launcher pro. plus i hated the UI samsung put on there. the nexus is just so open and easy to tweak, i'd be a hard decision. plus have you seen the Desire HD yesterday? so many phoens are around the corner. i wont be tempted until something really blows away the nexus, like dual core CPU. the galaxy is still too close to matching the nexus specs, 1ghz, 512mb, etc.

you could save your upgrade. or use it on an iphone 4 and sell that thing for like 600 bucks profit.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] android.activate:
So do I sell my IPhone Contract too..? I am not sure how selling of iPhone works.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Babydollll:
I also looked at the Galaxy S series (although the Vibrant not the Captivate) but I prefer the trackball for being able to precisely edit text. I think that Gingerbread will make a world of difference and the N1will of course get it first... Samsung has a horrible history of updates and on a more personal level Touchwiz looks like a cartoon and I hate it. I LOVE stock (vanilla) android. Just my humble opinion.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dowmace:
One thing to highly consider is that the hummingbird processor is not as fast as ours in the n1 it may run at 1ghz but it doesn't process as fast, my wife has a vibrant and I've run several benchmarks on both devices and the n1 blows the vibrant away every single time.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Paul22000:
2.2

:cool:
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Blueman101:
yeah i was just gonna say

The hummingbird 1ghz wrecks the snapdragon 1ghz (sadly) but the reason currently the n1 is winning is because of Froyo and the JIT. Just look at the quadrant scores pre-froyo
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wisefire:
I took my Vibrant back for the fact that...

I missed the Track Ball.

I missed the sturdy, heavy build of the Nexus, the Vibrant is very cheap and plastic feeling.

I missed the Flash on the camera.

I just over all hope that a phone similar to the Nexus but with a larger screen is developed..
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
No you just sell the iPhone itself. You can remove the iPhone off your account anytime you want, even the day after you sign the new contract. All ATT cares about is that you pay your bill every month and fulfill your 2 years. So you can take the iPhone data plan off your account immediately.

It's an option to consider. Some people do it but if you aren't comfortable then don't worry about it.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smashpunks:
Your joking right ? The only benchmark the n1 wins in is linpack . Cause of jit... quadrant we get 2200 with a hack without jit vs 1300 or so on n1? The sgs wins in almost every benchmark ..... the gpu totally smashes the n1... I've had both, n1 is a Tad faster feeling due to stock android ..... and jit ...

Gps works fine on my vibrant ...

N1 is awesome , but sgs wins hands down... especially soon with all 4 carriers having it... it'll have plenty mods.

Oh and it does not feel cheap ... not as sturdy as the n1 but n1 is heavier and will fall harder... also it comes with a extra cover for the back.. just awesome..

I love my n1, but my vibrant eats it alive.. especially in gpu .
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sl8125:
I have both an and a captivate. N1 build quality is superb. N1 customization is awesome. Awesome dev support. Guaranteed firmeware support unlike samsung. You never know when samsung will stop upgrading. No guarantee they will get gingerbread neither. But n1 is getting outdated. But still my everyday phone.

However, captivate is a great device. Great samoled screen. Built quality is okay. Not as quality as n1. Very plasticee. At least captivate has the metal plate on the back to look cool. Vibrant all plastic. Not doggy the iphony lol. Sure this will get outdated soon but all devices will. It will matter whether u want the device now. You wait for the next device another one comes out. That's technology. There are mods on this device built by xda devs already. Already out putting crazy benchmark numbers. But not as smoothas the n1 on custom froyo. However cyanogen mod is in the works. They will be support by not comparable to n1. So far i like both device. Sure track ball and froyo is nice. But having the capability to play and watch games and movies with hd quality nice too. So i wouldn't completely cross out captivate or galaxy s. I just wish i had the euro version though. They seem to have more devs working on it. Captivate and vibrabrant dev is little slower then galaxy s. But can't beat a $100 for a fine piece of technology.

Oh btw, i upgraded both of my parents line with iphone 4 and sold those suckers for 600 bucks per pop. Save that money to buy something else when something better comes out. Perhaps nexus two. Lol. Or maybe the Htc desire hd/ace. I hope they release the quad band gsm version. Prob euros will be out late this year, hope i can't import a asian quad band or aussie quad band version.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] boodies:
Do you want the best phone with great dev support? go with Samsung. I don't even have a froyo and i'm getting 2250 Quadrant. Apps are almost instantly on when I press the shortcuts. Webpages load really fast as well. N1 is a nice phone but no Galaxy S. This phone is going to have some major dev support. It was sold in over what, 100 countries? lol Can't wait till froyo.

Even before the hack my SGS was really fast but now it's on a whole new level. Just think of it this way. You know all those hiccups and lags in your N1? Those are all gone with the SGS. There is always going to be a limit to how smooth and lag free you can get your device and the hardware on the N1 prevents it [due to being outdated] from becoming totally lagfree like the SGS no matter how good the programming. Im thinking 3.0 will run at a bare minimum spec with the N1.

to answer the op, you'd be stupid not to :)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
seei dont necessarily agree. when i played with the captivate on sunday at the ATT store, it had the same stupid lag that the nexus has in certain web pages and certain menus. maybe it was the display unit, but i'm not convinced after using it that its THAT much better. maybe benchmarks score high, but i still saw that same lag.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] boodies:
It might have to do with the fact that it is a display model or a software issue that some seems to have. Compared to my vibrant, every other phone that I have played with seems slow in everything it does. I am just used to the speed of Vibrant. [it's almost like when I got my first pentium pro 200 when most other computers were 133 mhz pentium.]

Mind you even before I did any mod's to it the thing flew. And besides, some of these lags seem to be a software issues here. And you can be certain newer versions are being concocted as we speak by Samsung. Just wait till froyo hits OTA. Like I said, i'm getting over 2200 with RyanZA on my Vibrant. The numbers although only a benchmark, translates well to real world usage speed. I highly doubt a N1 can even get passed the 2000 stage. Samsung is prolly gonna surpass if not close to 3000 points!!! I appreciate your great dev support in the N1 but cmon guys, you have an outdated [not by much though :) ]phone! Switch over to the Galaxy! :)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kamasi36:
Have you lost your mind? The Nexus is still king of the hill, hardly outdated. Can you take a picture in the dark with all those benchmarks? I rest my case. Plus that phone feels cheap and screen is to damn big. Let me know how that flash is working on your camera.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] norazi:
thats pretty biased...

i have and love my nexus (wouldnt trade it for anything) but i can clearly see where it has its drawbacks compared to ths SGS line.. in particular:

- bad quality touchscreen

- lower end gpu (big difference when playing back videos)

- less efficient cpu/chipset (better battery on the sgs)

- i personally think 4" is a more ideal size

sticking with my nexus because i wont touch at&t with a 10ft pole and i llove/need the trackball
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kamasi36:
Biased? Not hardly. Cheap quality add that along with tmobile and att bloatware with no camera flash = no good. IMO. 4" is huge. Nexus may not be perfect but, it's hardly outdated.

http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/collection/3286/top_10_android_phones.html
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smashpunks:
I love my nexus, but vs my vibrant it just don't compare. These slow Downs on the sgs are a few reasons, 1 froyo, 2. Touchwize, but its not any slower than my n1 was on 2.1... basically the software needs to catch up with the hardware , once froyo hits this it'll kill.. but even then how much faster can it be vs instantly already?

Except in gpu . The gpu smashes the n1s... meno mark 1 gets 55 fps vs 12.5. Hell the 530 gpu in the droid x is outdated vs the 540 gpu in the sgs.

Outdated on n1..

Gpu

cpu (hell the evo even has the newer snapdragon)

Touchscreen ( no comparison )

memory (195 mb for apps vs 1.88gb)

Wifi b/g vs n.

Screen size (4 is perfect bit this necessarily ain't outdated)

720 p recording out the box...

I love my n1, yes you will miss the trackball (get used to that fast) and yea no flash for the camera, but google night mode for the sgs....

Does pretty well in the dark..

I love my n1. But my sgs runs circles around it. Not necessarily opening app speed now, but memory, gpu, touchscreen, etc...

also remember, all 4 carriers vs the n1s two... do dev support will come full speed...

We can over clock to 1.6 eventually , this phones got mad potential ...

I will say the gps isn't the best, but its reported software and a fix is coming... I hardly use that and would rather have a real Multitouch screen and no dropping 3g problem on the sgs vs a better gps.. that's me though, but the gps will be fixed.. the n1 non real multitwscreen can't...

Give this device froyo and watch it killlll.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jdmoore81:
Sounds to me you downgraded not upgraded
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
i thought that the snapdragon CPU was better at math computational instructions, and the hummingbird is not as good for that in particular. but the galaxy has a better GPU, so in the end the galaxy s is better. but the snapdragon cpu does have certain advantages where it beats the hummingbird. am i getting it wrong here?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smashpunks:
I think there close but the galaxy pulls ahead slightly.. but it can also be overclocked to like 1.6 is the rumor..

I forgot Where I saw the benchmarks of it...

http://androidandme.com/2010/07/news/droid-x-vs-galaxy-s-and-more-with-quadrant-professional/

Here's some benchmarks. Notice the CPU before froyo on the n1 vs the galaxy s, there basically the same but to me looks like the galaxy is just a **** hair better, add the gpu and 2.2 the whole processor is just better. But CPU wise their close
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] boodies:
lol, the depths people go to to defend their own product.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] boodies:
Thank you for the honest post. yes, 1.6 is easily achievable. It already beats that new dual core phone coming out but with 1.6, skys the limit. This phone also has an amazing camera with very high iso clarity. A flash can only light up so much where as the SGS lights up the whole damn room. I am not hating on the n1, just keeping things in their right perspective. I'm sure people are going to be using the n1 for a long time to come.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] C64c:
The galaxy spec wise is great, but why does it look like a larger iphone 3GS ? Heard its quite plastic feeling too. After i owned the Palm Pre for a short while, plastic is a no no for me.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smashpunks:
The back cover is plastic but it doesn't feel weak at all. Not as tough feeling as the n1 but n1 is heavier and will fall harder... also if I drop any phone it would scratch therefore bugging me and needing replaced regardless. Also most people use a case on their phone anyways so that's moot..

and finally if you drop it ( not screen because no screen is metal) and the back cover gets scratched cracks or breaks, there's a extra back cover that it comes with...

Build quality is good IMO... there's a drop test around and it does quite well...
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kamasi36:
All you N1 haters get you all some business on the plastic SGS forums. You right about one thing we are going to be using our N1s' for a long time. Now scat. LOL.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smashpunks:
I hope your not talking about me too? I own a n1 and love it. Fact of the matter is its specs are no where near the sgs ... screen, gpu, cpu, memory, screen size, camera, camcorder , capacitive buttons, super amoled, better battery, lighter, gaming, better Multitouch , no no 3g issue where it drops to edge for no reason, no power button issue etc.

I love my n1, but op asked a question and being as I got both devices, I'm giving a honest opinion.

Yea n1 has a trackball ( you get used to not having it)

A led

And camera flash (night mode baby)

Froyo (coming very soon for vibrant)

Updates (custom roms are better anyways)

Those are minor vs what the sgs brings, (most of those like froyo , updates with custom and night mode remedy those that the n1 are ahead in...

Once again I love my n1. But the vibrant is better.... sorry
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stuff:
I think you should save the money.

Mainly because there are other devices that WILL come out by the end of 2010. The N1 is not a bad phone. Save the money, put it aside, and when one killer phone comes out, get it then. The N1 is not dated at all. I put it up against my friends Evo 4G, and it's quicker in all aspects, and that phone is pretty awesome. The Galaxy S is definitely a better phone, but That's like having a Core i7 @3ghz and upgrading to a Core i7 3.2Ghz.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sl8125:
Captivate is going for cheap at Walmart. 50 Buck for this fantastic piece of equipment, why not. I did. I have a n1. N1 is great NO doubt. I know it will NOT be out dated soon. I bet we will get android 4.0 to run on his thing. Didn't g1 last pretty long. Anyways for the price its worth the penny. If you going to wait, wait for the new desire HD/ace. But I doubtful ATT get it. It will have be bought out of contract. So captivate is go. But I keep the n1. Don't go crazy thinking captivate is that much better and by rid of it or something. N1 is the most modifiable handset out there. Ands it will be the ffirst to get gingerbread.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jz9833:
I disagree, I think its more of a i5 vs an i7.

I do agree that if you have an n1 you SHOULDN'T need to upgrade unless you have to have the latest and greatest hardware. I thought I was one of those people but I found myself walking out of a T-Mobile without one twice.

That being said, I completely understand why someone would choose a SGS over a nexus one today.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kamasi36:
Okay back on topic. You asked a question(topic of your thread) and the answer is hell yes. LOL. Enjoy your phone man. Enjoy your phone. In a year are two upgrade to the next Google Phone. By then the there will probably be a "reason" to upgrade. And for you SGS and Vibrant lovers stop misguiding this brother. LOL
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] boodies:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ65sS8nbRE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Frag x 3:
I have both the Captivate and the Nexus One. It really depends on what you're doing with your phones. I picked up the N1 recently because it's always going to be the first to get every update, and 3.0 isn't too far away. The Captivate's screen is phenomenal, but the Nexus is still my main device.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nexusonemeover:
i just sold my unlocked nexus to a guy who started with a nexus, sold it for an iphone 4, went to a captivate, and now he has my old nexus... moral of the story... if it aint broke, dont fix it... the nexus does what the others should be able to do, but dont.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
like someone said earlier, its not a big enough upgrade to go from a 1ghz/512mb phone to another 1ghz/512mb phone. its like upgrading from a pentium 2.0 to a 2.2.

in a few months dual core scorpion phones are gonne be out, and you're gonna look back and think "damn why didnt i just wait a few months?"

the nexus is still too close to these phones as to be replaced at this point.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kamasi36:
For those who say the nexus is outdated....
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kamasi36:
7 months old and my Nexus still tops the Incredible, EV0, Vibrant (Galaxy) and Desire in Mflops. 50.592. You haters get you some business. LOL.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] whoisthedrizzle:
Exactly. There is really no point in comparing the SGS and N1 because they're just going to swap benchmark wins/losses. They both have pros, they both have cons, but to say N1 is out of the SGS league is a joke. All in all, the only thing that SGS truly wins at hands down is the display, and that's only because Samsung bogarted them all for themselves.

N1 is going on 9 months old and still reigns supreme. Guaranteed within 6 months new **** is out that dethrones both as SGS tried to catch up.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] boodies:
the vibrant already beat some of the new dual core phones coming out lol just wait till froyo hits and you'll start seeing 3000+ Quadrants. Something your nexus will never achieve. Those high scores translates straight onto real world performance. I'm sure better phones will come out, they better. I want a new phone later on ya knwo? but for now, SGS is the King and will be for a good while.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] boodies:
the only thing better is display? lol, tells me much about your limited knowledge.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Blueman101:
theoretically, the vibrant has a better gpu and cpu that could beat the Nexus one, however since the vibrant came out after everyone jumped up to froyo, it will be interesting to see how a froyo vibrant fairs against a froyo nexus.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Blueman101:
How many android benchmark apps do you know of that are optimized for dual core? Oh thats right, ZERO
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smashpunks:
Only reason n1 wins on some benchmarks is its on froyo.... the sgs will destroy the n1 all around even more when it gets froyo/jit.....
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] McFroger3:
The real reason why the glalaxy s gets a high quadreant score is because of the 16gb internal ext4 partion for the apps. The read and write speeds are very fast, and allows the score to go up because of that.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smashpunks:
That and the gpu is much better...

The n1 definitely wont faze out anytime soon. Its a pimp phone..
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lamar720:
Nexus a pimp phone lol, But, to the OP if your with tmo just wait and the next 3 mos. somethings about to drop and change the game!