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[EVO 4G Android Development] cnstarz:
ah okay, your post explained it clearer; i was misreading this thread. i thought the reason why they started this bounty was because the new PRI was causing slower data speeds, which is why i was wondering why you guys don't just downgrade to the faster PRI.
[EVO 4G Android Development] TheBiles:
Shouldn't Flipz know how to do this? Didn't he have a custom PRI in one of his Fresh ROMs? Seems like the same method could be used with an official PRI.
[EVO 4G Android Development] splink7007:
Put me in for $20.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kyleblakepeters:
I am almost positive he had a custom PRL in a Fresh Hero ROM.

Sent from my Evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dmc971989:
IIRC that was for the hero... and we were'nt using an Engineering SPL/H boot to gain root access... thats what's causing all these problems
[EVO 4G Android Development] ort84:
Put me in for $10 as well. Before I rooted I got consistent 1.5mbps on 3g, now I average .5-.7mbps max
[EVO 4G Android Development] ret4425:
I am getting about 750k down on 3G, my wife's unrooted, sitting right next to it it getting 150k. She's 1.4 and I'm 1.34. Any idea what's up with that?
[EVO 4G Android Development] fldash:
It's not guarantee the updated PRI will give you faster speeds, it could indeed give you lower like you experienced...
[EVO 4G Android Development] Calkulin:
Actually there's no way to upgrade the PRI until Sprint/HTC release a updated rcdata.img. Has nothing to do with rooting, bootloader, etc like some people keep suggesting, we just need a updated PRI file(rcdata.img). But until it's updated past the current 1.40 that was in the released phones, Sprint/HTC will not include it in a updated ROM as it's not necessary for them to include it if it hasn't been updated

To the OP - This bounty could $1K and unless someone leaks it from HTC themselves or leaks the source for the hboot, I highly doubt anyone here could be able to do it(unless you do what I did and hex edit 1.34_003 to display 1.40_003)
[EVO 4G Android Development] Smac7:
has anyone in michigan updated thier pri yet. ive done a few seaches in the forums for michigan and have only found people that also cannot get the update in michigan.
[EVO 4G Android Development] chumba8:
I am in for 10$ I have paypal ready also hey root for 1.4.7 got done this way thats why i donated to that too :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] agentfusion:
I think that is the point: to get it leaked from htc. We know that people from carriers and phone mfgs browse xda, so its kind of one of those things where we hope for an anonymous leak and they claim the pot.
[EVO 4G Android Development] chumba8:
oh well it was a great idea :) I can live with my prl for now
[EVO 4G Android Development] lwarranty:
I agree...

Three evo's, one rooted and two stock, speeds all similar - turning on the toaster will change them, not sure they are "affected" what-so-ever.

However further reading implies some phones are being returned, bricked, additional tech support resources being tapped, etc. It would seem in HTC and Sprint (in my case) best interest to just push the damned thing. In not doing so, it certainly won't stop rooting and possibily adding additional loads to an ever increasing network, tower, support, systems, inventory, issue tracking and resolution?

I have the luxury of choosing between phones, my phone of choice is at 1.34_003 and that may change in the future, but to date - nadda...
[EVO 4G Android Development] epphllps:
Consider yourself lucky as many are as unfortunate as me to have slower data speeds based on pri. Is strictly location based and it matters bc my home location is hurt by the old pri the most. If I'm anywhere with a full signal, no big deal. Though, I do wonder how fast my speeds could be on the new pri in a full signal location. I have never topped 1200 kbps on 1.34 pri with 6 bars :(

Sent from my EVO, the true iPhone killer!
[EVO 4G Android Development] BAleR:
Im lucky if i get 100kb/s with 6bars on 1.34
[EVO 4G Android Development] gtkansan:
In atlanta doesnt matter one bit. I consistenly get 2 mbps or so downlink on 3g even with bad signal.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Mikesus:
That's still better than the iPhone 4. It just gets left in bars... :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] cj10488:
I will update the first post in a few. Was a very long night of drinking last night so I am not moving too well today lol

James
[EVO 4G Android Development] MOGULBILL:
I doubt that. My co-worker's iPhone4 consistently gets 1.5 -2.0 megs. We run SpeedTest.net on our's daily, and I'm always the one who loses! :mad:
[EVO 4G Android Development] Wisiwyg:
and I'm in for $10...
[EVO 4G Android Development] pongoface:
Tell him to bring that iphone to rochester and eat my evo's 10 mb per sec 4g lmao
[EVO 4G Android Development] SharkUW:
I'm in for $5.
[EVO 4G Android Development] a2k:
To the tunes of the Luniz I Got Fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiive On It!
[EVO 4G Android Development] :
All I wants for Christmas is my PRI fix...my PRI fix...LOL!!! I would donate a 10 for this with ease...
[EVO 4G Android Development] OneStepAhead:
Oh man, we can't have that! Is there some way you can cheat? maybe doctor up a screen shot or pick up an at&t signal jammer? :D

edit: you ever try running a verizon PRL? might get better speeds in your area, i do.
[EVO 4G Android Development] DaWhip:
My buddy at work w/ an iP4 makes me turn on my wifi tether so he can browse faster:rolleyes:
[EVO 4G Android Development] kthejoker20:
cool can t wait
[EVO 4G Android Development] starkillers:
So I have 2 Evo's mine rooted and has older pri and wife's not rooted but also not updated yet to froyo as she is still debating whether or not she wants me to root. I have done speed tests on both phones and they usually achieve about the same speeds ranging around .60 to .70 mbps in Florida using speed test.net app. On most servers I can never get past those speeds on either phone. I then for the heck of testing went to speakeasy speed test on the web through dolphin browser and once again on both phones achieve similar speeds. However, using the Atlanta, Chicago and Dallas servers on both phones I hit speeds of averaging 1.2 to 1.3 again on both phones. So went back to speed test app and tried server in Florida closest to me and once again both phones couldn't pass the .60 mark. Few questions... why is speakeasy Atlanta server allowing me consistent speeds of 1.1 to 1.2 while speed test app can't break .60 and would having froyo on my wife's phone make any difference on her phone as far as comparing speed? As of now she's not updated to froyo, has newer pri but all tests show same speeds. What is acceptable 3g speed and is this an issue that would warrant an exchange? Thanks for any info...
[EVO 4G Android Development] mycalw:
Could this work?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=748458
[EVO 4G Android Development] lwarranty:
looks like a plug for for another site - otherwise?

looks like a plug for for another site - otherwise i'm missing something...
[EVO 4G Android Development] bluefire808:
If some figures out how to update it and people confirm faster speeds ill donate $10 change the feom $330 to $340¡
[EVO 4G Android Development] Avalaunchmods:
hm who has their msl?

message me if you do. i have a way to get the newest pri
[EVO 4G Android Development] cj10488:
Right here I do

James
[EVO 4G Android Development] davidlightle:
Ava, I have my MSL as well.
[EVO 4G Android Development] pongoface:
Have msl as well
[EVO 4G Android Development] infamousjax:
holy smokes.
[EVO 4G Android Development] infamousjax:
what's the verdict??
[EVO 4G Android Development] Smaulz:
Have my MSL. What's the story?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Avalaunchmods:
i have the op testing some things. he will report back after we test some things
[EVO 4G Android Development] rjmjr69:
Ok thanks for the update
[EVO 4G Android Development] cj10488:
Just an Update so far no dice. Headed to bed now..

James
[EVO 4G Android Development] rjmjr69:
Thanks for the update very nice of you te let everyone know. Good luck rest is always a good thing.
[EVO 4G Android Development] DataDork:
well. as far as comparisons go.. west LA area .. i get roughly 1.2 - 1.8 mbits with 4-5 bars on 1.34 and my sister gets roughly the same on 1.40 .. if there is something different, its not affecting us right now at least in my area.
[EVO 4G Android Development] weidnerj:
I have the same issue from my PC. I woudl say that it is the bandwidth or pathways to certain servers are faster (or slower) than others. That is just how the Internet in general is, your connection is as fast as the slowest link. Usually Chicago or Dallas is the fastest links for me from Kansas City. If you did a traceroute, you would see even using a local server will end up going hundred miles away and come back. So local to you doesn't mean local to the Internet. I would say that your phone is acting normal.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bob50963:
I get about 7mbs with pri 1.34

edit: close to 3mbs with 3g
[EVO 4G Android Development] DataDork:
think your talking about wimax and not 3g (pri)
[EVO 4G Android Development] cico7:
i get about 1.70 download speeds here in chicago.

Not affected by the pri. :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] jorpe:
anxoiusly awaiting a fix of some sort... data is super slow now.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mastermarc:
I'm in for 5!
[EVO 4G Android Development] toneedo:
+$20 from me...i need this too
[EVO 4G Android Development] Taupakari:
Folks, don't expect that an updated PRI is going to be a panacea for slow data speeds. Perhaps it

may

help some people, but more than likely if your data speeds are slow now they're going to stay that way until the local infrastructure is upgraded. Some are saying that pre-root they got better speeds but unless you were in the exact same place holding the phone the exact same way and exposing it to the exact same interference, there is no way to validate that the PRI is at fault.

I'm on the 1.34_003 PRI and routinely get 1.4 mbps down, FWIW.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cj10488:
Yes there is no way to validate that the PRI being updated would fix slow speeds that people are seeing. The only thing that is for sure is after we figure this out is that we have the updated PRI and thats it. I myself thats a gamble that I am taking. Atleast in my point of view It will be indentical to what was released. At that point no one can blame the downgraded PRI for anything for this point on.

James
[EVO 4G Android Development] evanrich:
maybe I'm just playing devils advocate, but why are data speeds SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO..*breath*..OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO important? I mean it's already fast, and you have the internet on laptops/desktops to actually download stuff. Just be happy you have internet on your phone at all. Whatever speeds I get, are fast enough for me. My e-peen does not need to be inflated by a Jigabps up or down speeds
[EVO 4G Android Development] dwertz:
True but what if they are tethering.

Why have 4g then also?
[EVO 4G Android Development] DaWhip:
that, and I havent touched my laptop except for word processing for school since i got the evo. Every thing I have done could easily be done with the evo and without the need to hook the evo up the computer. Faster data would be awesome, especially out of 4g range.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Mikedick:
1.34 here, and I get 1mb/s up, 1.2 down. Could be missing something here, but for 3g I didnt think i had anything to complain about....

Edit: and that's out in the boon docks between Milwaukee and Madison, WI.
[EVO 4G Android Development] epphllps:
There is always this back and forth about pri....where is slaughter to chime in on this?? Haha. It definitely hurts my speeds and is like clockwork from uprooted to rooted. If it doesn't mess with your speeds be glad, but for some, yes it does. A 30-50% decline in speeds from one pri to the other. Same location, orientation, time of day, but other variables play a role too. When I lose such a big % of speed vs the new pri, there is no denying I am hurt by the old pri. When you understand how pri works, it makes perfect sense. Like they say, it is based on location, location, location.

Sent from my EVO, the true iPhone killer!
[EVO 4G Android Development] bjrmd:
speed difference is huge depending on signal strength, my best is below, but 3 miles down the road about 1/10 the speed
[EVO 4G Android Development] splink7007:
Has anyone tried to master reset with MSL, reactivate and OTA all updates needed? Does that update PRI?
[EVO 4G Android Development] kthejoker20:
Put me down for $10

I don't think they can do it though, make me eat my money.
[EVO 4G Android Development] wafowler4:
Make that $15 from me...
[EVO 4G Android Development] dfrias:
Put me down for $10
[EVO 4G Android Development] freeza:
i'll add $10 just for the ability. My 3G speeds are fine. :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] jumpman6235:
I have two Evo's right now, one with PRI 1.40 and one with 1.34 .. Their 3G performances are almost identical... as is their reception and calling connection times.

IMO, its no big deal... but ill throw $5 on it just because a PRI update in the future may be crucial.
[EVO 4G Android Development] fldash:
Just because it doesn't make a difference for you doesn't mean it doesn't have a significant affect for others.
[EVO 4G Android Development] infamousjax:
It's all based on LOCATION. This does make a difference, but it doesn't effect everybody. Please realize that :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] chonomey:
You're right but still I'm down with $10 dlls

I have the DC 3.5 and have the PRI 1.34 and have been trying to update to the 1.40 but it just won't do it. I know 10 dlls is not much but if it helps I'm down for it. (my 4G connection does work here in Los Angeles though:) )
[EVO 4G Android Development] infamousjax:
Although it looks grim now, keep your head up. Every little bit helps... and something will budge eventually. :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] MrDSL:
I will add $10 to this also..
[EVO 4G Android Development] akiradavis:
Just a question. Will unrooting give me the new PRI?
[EVO 4G Android Development] SharkUW:
No
[EVO 4G Android Development] SharkUW:
I tether. My phone and neighbors' wifis are my internet access..5 meg on full bars is not good.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Crotchety:
lmao well you can always consider the novel idea of paying for your own internet service at home. I hear it's all the rage these days. :rolleyes:
[EVO 4G Android Development] PlankLongBeard:
Oh my Jesus, sometimes I don't know where android is heating up more. I bet you if bgr or engadget got a hold of this thread and the bounty labeled for the updated prl, they'd have a field day. LOL...

Hope this does get resolved, cause I stated when pre 7 released, 4g is harnessed by the WiFi tether now, so yeah it matters.!

Sent From Your Grandmothers HTC Evo via Telepathic 4G
[EVO 4G Android Development] bluefire808:
Cant you turn access controle on your your neighbors cant connect to your android tether? Idk if thats how it works with access controle though, never enabled it while tethering
[EVO 4G Android Development] kthejoker20:
thats why we make honeypots, for people that steal internet.

When you steal my net, I steal from you. Plain and simple.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nunyabiziz:
Count me in for $10
[EVO 4G Android Development] meinstein1987:
So basically this will update signal and data speed if some one can explain prob been done but if I can get it in simple terms then ill give 10 if it will benefit me
[EVO 4G Android Development] EtherealRemnant:
I noticed something interesting today that may be an Evo bug... So I turned 4G on when I was in traffic on 6th Avenue to run some speed tests... got 8megs, no surprise there... but I left it on... later I was in Denver waiting for my group therapy class and was downloading and browsing and noticed it was flying. Did a speed test and I was getting 1.7-2.1Mbps consistently.

I shut off 4G and went to test later and was back to 500-900 speeds. Turned 4G back on and was immediately back to the 1.7-2.1Mbps levels.

I noticed when I turned on 4G that the 3G data arrows started moving like crazy each time, then stopped.

Can someone test this for me? To do this test you need to be on a tower that you KNOW can handle the faster speeds. I tried it all over the place today and even at home where I can't usually pass 300, I got 600. Turned off 4G and back down to 300. Turned it back on, back up to 5-600. Hit 900 at one point.

Just did a test in my room with 2 bars and got 750... turned off 4G and shut the phone on, turned it back on and got 500 consistently. Turned 4G back on and got 876, 1114, 1140, 865, and 974.

Maybe the PRI update fixed the link between 4G being turned off and slow 3G speeds? Try it and post your results...

Oh and use the Xtremelabs speedtest - speedtest.net is crap.
[EVO 4G Android Development] m03sizlak:
If there is a future PRI update, then we [ie, rooted users] will have it. There has never been an update that changed the PRI from what was installed at the factory, which is why we have no way to update ours now.
[EVO 4G Android Development] meinstein1987:
So then if you calkin are saying and many others of you are saying that 1.4 pri is out please tell me why I have 1.34 still after trying to update many times I even called Sprint and told them my data and signal slowed down they told me there is no update
[EVO 4G Android Development] zikronix:
with the new unrevoked comming out (unrevoked forever), thats supposed to be the real deal, do you think it would be possible to pull the pri from a phone. That unrevoked is reported to also allow unsigned pcimg files?

what do you think?
[EVO 4G Android Development] lwarranty:
Let me try to get this straight???

The stock phones released with PRI 1.34 were factory HTC flashed?

The stock phones released with PRI 1.4 were factory HTC flashed?

The phones factory released with PRI 1.34 were NOT updated as there was never a pushed version of PRI 1.4?

Therefore all phones with 1.34 will remain as such until an update is pushed?

So those with 1.34 unrooted would never see an update regardless until something is pushed?

Trying to get my mind around this! I have both versions and see no difference, however I have read many threads indicating otherwise...
[EVO 4G Android Development] Congo123:
$25 from me.
[EVO 4G Android Development] webs05:
Sort of. If you went back to stock your PRI is supposed to be updated. That is my understanding. It's more or less some of the rooted phones that cannot update, but once they unroot they can update PRI.

I just tried on my phone and couldn't update either. Weird. Never noticed till I saw this thread. Also this is definitely location based since I only have issues with speed when my signal strength sucks.
[EVO 4G Android Development] davidlightle:
This information is getting very mixed up I think, so here is what I believe is the full picture.

Stock phone from Sprint, PRI = 1.40_003

NAND-unlocked (Toast Part 2), PRI = 1.34_003

There is a single file, rcdata.img, present in the eng-PC36IMG.zip that relates to NAND-unlocking, which causes this PRI downgrade. It does NOT exist in any OTA or RUU currently, which is why we have no way to upgrade PRI.

The thought currently is to find how to extract the PRI from a working phone (which may or may not require root/custom recovery/eng HBoot). Knowing this, I think we can get a scenario where we have the right environment (even eng HBoot with 1.40_003 PRI, possibly), so that we can extract the 1.40_003 out and use it to upgrade for all the early adopters of NAND-unlock.

Edit: Also note that PRI != PRL. PRI relates to the radio, I believe on an API-level interaction. PRL is a roaming list for tower selection.
[EVO 4G Android Development] lwarranty:
No way to go back...

I don't think there is any way to go back?

My question is - did the phone ever get released with 1.34 on it? If so, the 1.4 must have been pushed?
[EVO 4G Android Development] kthejoker20:
bumpidty bump
[EVO 4G Android Development] rockky:
So how do you tell if in fact your being limited by your pri or not?

Could be tower strength or a whole host of factors affecting speed.

Btw, I haven't found there to be a strong correlation between app speed measures and real world data transfer anyway.

All in all...this stuff seems multi factorial....guys here with older pri's...getting fast 3gs etc
[EVO 4G Android Development] rjmjr69:
Unrevoked is releasing a new method that should allow this to get done
[EVO 4G Android Development] DataDork:
Ok.. something else i just noticed last night.. everytime i go to speedtest.(ookla). my server location is in the east now?? compared to what it used to be in Cali.. i can not change it. all server locations are either in TX, KS, MO, OK, NE, IA,. IL.. wtf.. no support for cali ? im curious if somewhere, the old pri uses a different channel or routing and pulls a different ip range located in the east? and the new pri has of course, the new routing map? could be why speedtests or just random speed may be messed up? ..

curious to know the ip range others are getting from their location.

i will post mine if this amouts to anything..

West LA, CALI - ip 173.128.206.x

if some in West LA, santa monica, etc can post up an IP with pri 1.34 and pri 1.40 ?

i might be wrong but damn i need to know =D
[EVO 4G Android Development] DataDork:
double post
[EVO 4G Android Development] Crotchety:
Well I live in the Hermosa Beach area and I have 1.34. I get the L.A. servers every time.
[EVO 4G Android Development] starplaya93:
So I first noticed a major decrease when I flashed my first 2.2 rom which was cyanogen. Before I had dc 3.2.3 and cdma/evdo strength was pretty decent in my area. I was averaging around 1mb on 3g speeds and was very happy.

After I started flashing froyo roms everything went downhill. I now get 0-1 bars of evdo and 1-2 of cdma while in the same area (my house and other places in the proximity). This has happened on 2 evos that I have owned so im not sure what the issues is but after seeing this thread i'm hoping that it is fixable.

The weird thing is that a few blocks away at my friends house about 5min away, I get literally full bars for cdma and EVDO and my download speeds are back to 1mb.

If the PRI is the issue then I really hope there's a fix.
[EVO 4G Android Development] DataDork:
weird.. im rolling back to original rooted rom and retesting.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cj10488:
Ok I am backing out of the bounty.. Time is getting too short to follow things. If anyone wants to take over your more than welcome to.

I am still good for my 10.00 though but I just cant monitor and update the thread right now..

James
[EVO 4G Android Development] webs05:
What? You can unroot anytime you want and apply any of the Sprint OTAs afterwards. People have been reporting only having these issues when rooted. Unroot and problem solved. But really, who wants to unroot just for the PRI?

Or am I missing something? Has anyone unrooted to verify this?
[EVO 4G Android Development] pongoface:
When u unroot the pri sticks
[EVO 4G Android Development] wfrandy:
No, none of Sprints OTA's or RUU's include the PRI. And yes, it has been tried, you cannot get the 1.40 PRI back by unrooting.
[EVO 4G Android Development] webs05:
When you attempt to update PRI after unrooting it doesn't update?
[EVO 4G Android Development] muf454:
that's prL you're talking about
[EVO 4G Android Development] webs05:
Nope. I just thought that "update profile" would attempt to update PRI. I'm now assuming this is not the case?
[EVO 4G Android Development] infamousjax:
You figured it out! Ever since the inception of the phone we've been trying to figure out how to change the PRI, and all it took was to update our profiles. Looks like the bounty is yours, oh wise one!

lol
[EVO 4G Android Development] topdnbass:
I'm gonna laugh when this gets fixed and nothing changes.

Have any of you considered that maybe sprints network is just crappy and overloaded with unlimited everything WiFi tethering Evo owner's? Wait that'd be us!

Well, here's to hoping.