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[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] agonzalez1010:
According to a recently published Gartner statement, Android is passing the iPhone OS and is closely catching up with RIM. So with that it tells me that the Androids are selling and it is safe to say that EVO is one of the platforms that is selling. Sales for HTC EVO didn't halt on August 3rd so it is also a safe bet that there is a growing population of EVOs being sold with FROYO Stock. Oh, and let's not forget those of us who were in the middle of Warranty issues and ended up with a Stock Froyo (thats how I got mines).

So here we are day 12 (8/15/10) of the post OTA FROYO saga and so far no root. I'm very confident that it is being worked on by developers, but it kind of stinks when you plop over to the development section and all see is this kick butt ROMs being produced but all of them have a prerequisite of having a

"rooted phone

" in order to use. Like another person said earlier here, some true colors are showing here which is sad, while the pages of this thread continue to grow (at page 26).

At this point, we can pretty much say that the Sprint HTC EVO running Stock FROYO using is the only phone that is unrootable at this time. Heck even the so called unhackable Droid X was hacked a few days ago. My 2 cents, Sprint demanded stronger bootloader security from HTC so that they can rape us for the $30 hotspot and HTC delivered with plugging all holes and having a bootloader that to my knowledge hasn't been hacked yet.

So here we are waiting for the thread title to change, but so far no dice. Meanwhile the Samsung Epic, it appears that root has been achieved and on launch day one will be available for it. (Personally if on August 31st if this thread title hasn't changed, I'll just Ebay my EVO and get me the Epic, sure I'll loose .4" of screen, but at least I'll have root. Radio Shack has a buy back program and will buy your EVO if in mint for $235. You can use that money against the purchase of the Epic.)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] toastcfh:
last warning

either the flaming and name calling stops, or i close the thread. there is no reason for all this pointless fighting. i and other mods have had to come here countless times. happens again and i will lock the thread and handle the offenders.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] manooti:
lol i know was just having some fun.. dont playa hate!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] manooti:
uhhh... i would halt any future updates from htc or sprint until this is rooted. shouldnt be long i hope.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] agonzalez1010:
That is what all of us is hopeful for at this point.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fernruffryders:
Can't we all just be friends and wait patiently. I don't want this thread to be closed.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tomh1979:
Well what i'm about to post i used to actually start a thread and after about 117 views and not a single post, i'm shocked, again not sure if it's helpful or not, but here i go.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] locoboi187:
Now thats the stuff ive been waiting to see. props.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tomh1979:
there was also 2 links in there as well, but being a newb poster on here, i could not post that, no biggie though i guess.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sonwon:
I sent this email to Sprint today.

To whom it may concern,

I have been a happy Sprint customer for over 8 years. I can no longer say I am happy with Sprint. When my 2 year phone agreement expires I plan to move my entire family to another phone carrier (AT&T, T-Mobile, or Verizon). The reason why for this drastic move is the last EVO update broke my ability to root my phone. I bought the phone an own the phone, Sprint owns the network not my phone. Unless Sprint releases instructions or a patch to re-enable root I am done with Sprint.

I should add that as of today Sprint / HTC still has not fixed the 30 frame per second cap on the phone. Just another reason why I am done with Sprint.

Cordially,
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] azary1010:
Darn was too excited to get froyo but didn't realize it would disable the ability to root my evo.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Saturn2K:
Wow. Prior to the release of Froyo, rooting wasn't just a setting you toggled in the settings menu. Phone manufacturers constantly update their security to prevent rooting. The only exception to that is when "development" phones are sold, and rooting still breaks the warranty. Also, the 30FPS thing is kind of ridiculous, but they made that decision because the phone has HDMI out and they wanted stability.

Your email is akin to asking Sprint for tech support for Android Wireless Tether when Sprint sells the Mobile Hotspot service.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sonwon:
I got Android because I wanted an open device otherwise I could have just got an Apple phone. I bought the phone and I want to control what runs on it. I am done with Sprint.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zorack8000:
2.2 Rootable?

im no expert but maybe 2.2 for evo is actually un exploitable and therefore unrootable??? could this be possible???
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aldojr:
Anything in life can be exploited it just takes time. I have said that a million time but it is true. Ask yourself when did 2.2 come out and i mean the .6 not .3. Then take a deep breath and go oh ok that's true. If six months from now there is no root then yeah go WTH. But trust me people are working on it and i myself am trying. Pow
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FattySparks:
thanks for your work!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ginjeet:
OK, I've read many pages and applaud many of you on your patience. For what it's worth, this is where this lurker plans to see the news break. The OP is very succint and is far as I'll ever need to go. Thank you.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shadeoblac:
Just a thought, has anyone tried disecting the 2.2 ruu and changing it to install a rooted image instead of the official one? I don't know if that will work or if it can be done, but I figured I'd put it out there.

Thanks for all your hard work guys.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jayrock310:
we will never get to root our phones. it doesnt take this long to find an exploit. go ahead ban me. by time u find an exploit ill be rockin my brand new iphone 5 jailbroken. i knew the evo wouldnt last that long. you can have the video calling all you want. and pay 30$ a month for wimax on top of 10$ 4g thats not even nationwide. and to top it all off froyo didnt fix **** with the fps on the camera.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JvIo55iBl3r:
Thanks for updating.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ep3n3wp:
I thought I read in another thread that the exploit in 2.1 was through flash lite...

Now could there be a way for us to downgrade our flash player and a dev use the exploit from 2.1 or for them to create a way to root using flash lite exploit?

Kinda a noob and am one of those stuck...

Ohh well waiting patiently..

Sent from my second wife using swype on xda app
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Syntax404:
Yes, well there's a reason we do this... the challenge of it.

Besides, it's not nearly the risk you presume... the absolute WORST thing that can happen is I brick it completely and have to warranty repair it... meh, $100. Not much of a risk though, given that I don't actually do the work on the phone itself.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] energizer1389:
Its called trust. Some of the devs here have been rooting, exploiting and making these phones better for years know. They've showed us how passionate they are about their phones and I think they are working hard on it just because they want to. They do it not for you or me but for themselves and we are so lucky they share what they achieve. Even without root I love my Evo :p.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fachadick:
afraid not - the flash exploit was patched up in 2.2, and it was the exploit itself that was patched, so even if you were running flash lite, the exploit that it would be looking for in the root process is no longer there.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NotATreoFan:
jayrock310 has been banned for 7 days since he chose to not following the warning issued a few posts up.

@Everyone: No more warnings are being issued. Trolling or flaming will result in a 7 day ban. Unless you are one of the devs working on rooting Froyo, or your post is in someway constructive, DO NOT POST!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kthejoker20:
Guys am I missing something? I rooted it no problem.

I used the RUU started stone cold from 1.47.

Applied unrevoked forever. Then applied the OTA updates to 2.2.

Pulled the battery FIRST, then HBOOT, flashed PC36IMG.ZIP(clockwork) then rebooted.

It normally wouldn't take, but with the battery out first, then booting it did.

Then booted into recover, flashed superuser, whola!!!

2.2 fully rooted stock. Everything working great nand unlocked. with the .93 bootloader.

SO WHAT AM I MISSING??????? Seems to be working for me?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tomh1979:
correct me if i'm wrong, but sounds like you were on 2.1 with root, then applied unrevoked forever, which will keep root no matter if you except any ota's, which means your not really rooted on 2.2, or you were able to root 2.2, just means unrevoked forever is working just as it's supposed too by keeping you rooted even if you except ota's

FYI: what your missing is that those of us that already have 2.2 can't root
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] garyfunk:
You are missing the fact that many have to start with 2.2 where as you started with 1.47.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kyletjackson:
It seems that you had some form of root before you applied the OTA. I've tried unrevoked forever after the OTA and it doesn't work.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] envoykrawkwarrior7:
just an idea, what if you uploaded an old version of flash lite, and set that as the default flash, would you be able to access the exploit then? or am i just completely wrong and not reading what you said right
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fachadick:
I'm probably not explaining it right. Look at flash as a tunnel with the door at the end being the exploit into root access. What they did was lock the door - the tunnel is still there, but it won't get you anywhere anymore. Doesn't matter what version of flash it is - it will still lead to that locked door.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NotATreoFan:
Absolute final ultimatum. Do not post "I want my root" or anything else not directly related to the development process for rooting Froyo. Regardless of post count or member status, you will be banned for a minimum of 3 days.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] electric contractor:
HDMI Port

I have been reading some about looking for holes to be able to root 2.2 ota on the Evo, has anyone tried thru hdmi port since not many of us use this feature?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] meo1pr:
Maybe an exploit in the adobe reader?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] locoboi187:
I think an exploit from efile may work. efile allows you to view the root and decure directories, so maybe it can be used to add administrative permission to normal android account or user.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CJ Morin:
This is a nice thread that seves a good purpose. Just move along and do not make them close this thread down. Sell your Evo and move forward buy a new phone then.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mgalyan:
A thought on open source and mobile devices

Sorry I am not directly contributing to rooting Froyo but I wanted to make a point in this increasingly displeased crowd.

Perhaps a blog would be the best forum for this thought, but this is a high-trafficked thread.

I think that the frequent posters who say "no one is working on a 2.2 exploit" might actually have a point.

Not saying that no one is actually trying, but this does go to show that we are up against a very difficult challenge when competing with devices like the iPhone. Imagine if all Android based phones had to use the same basic kernel, and all customizations had to be approved by Google...

Every Android phone would be "root-able" right now. This second. With one-click GUI's like blackRa1n.

That's the real conundrum we face... every month or two an awesome new Android or Palm phone is going to come out. If it's Android, it probably has some special ROM that is unique to that device and will require very educated hackers to find an exploit.

With the iPhone (not a fan btw), the only thing they have to worry about? A new firmware release.

Just a comparison that I think some people need to think about if we are to keep the dev community prosperous. Remember, this is all free for you, the end user.

Please be optimistic and use your device, rooted or not, and if your phone doesn't do something you want it to, write to a paid developer and ask for it. I bet if it gets enough demand you'll find it in the market.

Otherwise, be patient for the free stuff. Open source is beautiful but you only have so many people with so much time to work on your particular device. Next month this argument will be about the Epic.

Just be calm. My iPod Touch 2G took forever to jailbreak.

2 cents you may not care about or want to hear.

Again, good luck all!

P.S... I agree with the post about the HDMI port. There's a lot of code there virtually unseen and unused by 99% of EVO users and dev's.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kyletjackson:
Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

EDIT: Oops. Too late.

I also think the HDMI port has some interesting possibilities. There has got to be a hole somewhere...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] envoykrawkwarrior7:
im checking that out too, i found the ota certification zip file, mabey that can help
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] locoboi187:
Sounds like a good idea. Maybe I can team up with a developer and help if anyone is up for it?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ar3ohdee:
I have tried a few things, but nothing yet !!!

I have tried to access the 1.47 to the 3.26 stages of Supersonic.zip and have found nothing that works yet... I have them both unzipped and open, and am trying to find ANYTHING that will let me Re-flash the Original 1.47 as an "update.zip"... As of NOW I continue to get the same message "update is older then one installed" meaning it won't let me go back... I think that somewhere in the unzipped update.zip file there should be something that is telling the phone it is the "older" update as opposed to being a "NEWER" version of the Android O.S. SO, I think that once someone finds a way to TRICK the phone into thinking that the "update.zip" (the 1.47 version) IS THE NEWEST VERSION of the operating system we should be able to go back to 1.47, root, and start ALL OVER AGAIN !!! That all being said, I think the focus needs to be LESS on the exploit (Rooting Froyo), and MORE on the files WE ALREADY HAVE (the 1.47, Ruu, etc), OR IN OTHER WORDS, "going back" Any feedback, or support is appreciated... PLease keep me posted on any advances, and I will do the same...

-R
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IRepTheKing:
I agree. It's so obvious that 2.2 is a bigger monster than the previous versions. May as well take a look at options for going back.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aldojr:
I agree not just rooting is getting looked at but downgrading is another alternative. the biggest problem you are forgetting is once I modify the files, I have no way of signing it. Example if you use a old version you get the main version old speech but modify a fileyou get verify signature fail. So rooting is a more likely the route to go. 2.2 is just another door to unlock not a bigger monster it has only been two weeks. Let three months go by and we can call it a big monster.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SilverZero:
In three months we'll be looking for GB exploits! Okay, maybe not quite, but let's just remember that nothing is permanent, and new updates mean new vulnerabilities.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aldojr:
Agreed. :D
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bhriscoy:
I think its a waste of time going backwords, just because people want root and have to wait... who cares make em wait. I think effort is gona be wasted concentrating on going back....MOVE FOWARD FOWARD FOWARD. BTW EVERYONE WHOS WORKING ON ROOT FOR FROYO, I DEEPLY APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORT AND KNOWLEDGE YOU BRIND TO OUR WORLD. ;)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IRepTheKing:
Okay, well let's see. The first version was rooted before the release of the phone. The 1.47 was rooted in hours after release, so 2 weeks by comparison = a big monster.

But I do however believe it will be rooted soon.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] meo1pr:
The HTC MyTouch an Wildfire have recently been rooted, maybe those methods will lead us in the right direction.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fernruffryders:
Just downloaded droidxroot for motorola. I wouldn't know what to look for but that's root for 2.2 but on a different phone. Maybe someone whose smarter then me can pick at this root program and alter it to work on our evos?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fernruffryders:
There is an exploid file in the root program but I can't open it do I need a special program to open it?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ep3n3wp:
Okay kinda a noob but from what I read... It says file older blah blah...

Now when trying to push the 1.47 ruu is it saying its older as in version number compared to 3.26.... What I trying to say is it denying it cause of thee version number or the date it is signed?

What I'm getting at is there a way to take apart the 1.47 ruu and change (re write) the date in it to make it look as if it is the newer version therefore pushing the 1.47 ruu to the phone which in turn opens the old exploit?

Hope that helps maybe

Sent from my second wife using swype on xda app
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] whodat105:
editing files will corrupt the certs and would no longer be signed with right ones for hboot.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ep3n3wp:
Oh lame.. Was going for that small chance... By the way is the reason it saying newer version is older...

Is that the version number or the date of the file that it can tell its older?

Sent from my second wife using swype on xda app
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TambourineMan:
I still have a stock, unrooted 2.1. I avoided the update as I read this could prevent 2.2 rooting.

I avoided the earlier Cyanogen Froyo RC1 as it did not have 4g, nor unrestricted, full HDMI out and I was/am happy to wait.

But I am curious to know if the devs still working to get 4G and full HMDI out working in the non-official 2.2, or are they all just now concentrating on breaking the official 2.2 and have in effect suspended work on finalizing the the CM Froyo RC1?

Assuming they get 4G to work in the CM Froyo RC1, what is the advantage of breaking 2.2? Is it better than RC1? If so, how or why? (I know that the official 2.2 does not have full HDMI out.

Or are they just now concentrating on breaking the official 2.2 for the challenge of it?

I realize HTC want to fix bad code, but is it obvious to devs that they have gone to great lengths to prevent breaking 2.2?

How is what HTC did more difficult to break than what Motorola is doping with encryption in their latest phones?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kennedy4260:
If you are on 2.1 and have not done the update to 2.2 there is a full featured ROM out there. Search the forum and you will find it. It came out a day or two after the OTA.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kmisterk:
It really surprises me how many people clearly read the op and still ask if there is a way to root 2.2 ota. It actually kind of bugs me. OH WELL. their verbal abuse, not mine.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rutter9:
This has been released since the 2nd day the update came. I suggest maybe you should not do it then if you haven't noticed.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aldojr:
http://twitter.com/unrevoked

This seems real promising that they might have found an exploit to 2.2. Maybe its for rooted 2.2 but it does not sound like it, but more OTA 2.2. Just giving ya'll a heads up.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EyeslikeOlives:
EVERYONE! Okay, so I'm not sure if this has been mentioned, but I will probably post this up in a thread soon. As I got my replacement EVO I found that it came with Android 2.2 Froyo. I spoke to a customer service rep. with Sprint to switch the EVO from a line on my account to the line that belongs to me and also asked if there is a way to switch back from 2.2 to 2.1. The guy said yes, to just take it in to Sprint and they would do it there for me! Free of charge.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] /b/laZ1n:
Just talked to sprint and and they confirmed that they can not do the downgrade.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SilverZero:
Let us know when they actually do it for you.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pHolla10:
The advantage is that those of us who have stock 2.2 will be able to get root.

Tell me if this works, I talked with tech support and the lady swore up and down that there was NO WAY to revert back to 2.1. Ha, she also told me that evo's are shipping with 2.1 still, I knew she was full of it.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tomh1979:
Just remember though, not every customer service rep you talk to is going to say the samething twice, doesn't hurt to go into a repair store and try right.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PiercedCow:
well that is the most promising thing that i have heard on here yet
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SilverZero:
I sure don't see what you're thinking is a possible exploit. I don't even understand the latest tweet, except for the part that tells Incredible users to use UF before doing the OTA. :confused:
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aldojr:
Hence why i used MIGHT. I just saw "2.2 folks: stuff is coming down the pipeline". I'm hoping that they MIGHT have found some sort of exploit. Sometimes hope is all people need. :confused:
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pHolla10:
Just left the Sprint store, the service techs told me that it is not possible for them to revert the phone to 2.1.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crimeslunk:
you have to call up sprint and yell at them alot. I had this handled yesterday but az it turns out I was on the final day if my trial period through wirefly so they couldn't issue me a new phone. Going to yell some more today untill my throat is course and my face is blue. They will send me out a 2.1 just gotta keep yelling at them.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] /b/laZ1n:
I am on the phone with the 3rd level tech support at sprint. He is telling me that he is going to setup an ftp link that will allow me to download a 2.1 software release that will install. :eek: I will update as I get more into it..
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ku_:
That would be superb......so please do...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PiercedCow:
it is getting sexxxier
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fachadick:
I know...I'm killing my battery refreshing

Sent from my blah blah blah blah
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] /b/laZ1n:
Waste of time. The sprint tech had me download the 2.1 software for the htc hero. Next they told me to contact HTC lol. It's not going to happen. Keep in mind that was sprints lvl 3 support. That was the best they have and they didn't have a clue what to do.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tomh1979:
Lol, that sucks,i already have threw hero software for 2.1 on my pc from when ih updated the wifes phone.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fachadick:
Goddammitsomuch

Sent from my blah blah blah blah
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bluehaze:
Sounds more like they managed to add another phone that works with unrevoked. Don't really see how you get EVO 2.2 root out of that tweet...