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[Galaxy S I9000 General] PsiIion:
I don't think it's anything wrong with threads that complain about the problems. It's obvious that there are a lot of users experiencing issues, and if I was one of them I would be angry and discuss the issues as well.

What really bothers me is that when I respond with comments about not having an issue, there are some users that will assume that it's because I'm clueless or dumb. You do it as well when you say "those that have no problems DO NOT use the devices to record tracks". And in the same post you talk about OP marginalizing users with problems? :confused:

I have been navigating in the terrain using GPSCompassMap and MyTracks. I haven't had a need to save tracks, but the other day I made a recording with GPSCompassMap when I was driving just because I got fed up with that kind of accusations.

When posting that I'm told that it must been a lucky day or that I happened to have ideal conditions...basically being accused of being a liar since I clearly stated that it's normal performance for me.

I don't get locks on satellites with SNR <20 or more than 8 sats, but it still works.

I really don't get what causes some users to lash out at anyone that does not have problems and call them idiots or liars.

I know it's hard to make any sense of things, since there doesn't seem to be any common denominator explaining why some users have a completely useless GPS and some have one that is working fine.

But it's the same with the lag and battery life as well...some people experience issues and some not, and while it's a bit more common the issue is nailed down to a particular FW or software with those, it's still not 100% clear why there are such differences how users experience the device.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kcharng:
+ 1 ssgs happy owner.

Stock firmware rooted with auto killer.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Ancient_One:
Got my SGS a few weeks back and can't be happier.

Never experienced the lag issue that others seem to associate with this device. Maybe it's not as noticable to me as I'm getting on in age.

GPS issues, what GPS issues. It locks on and it tracks - No issue.

Some applications have caused issues with Kies and Force Close but that's not the device it's the application.

Overall a good experience and an excellent phone.

Story: I went into a local shop here ion Australia on release of the iPhone 4. Picked it up to play and look at. Put it down a few seconds later. Talk about boring phone. SGS rules.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] x50v!:
Fair call.

That perspective comes from questions I have asked elsewhere where I asked people to send me tracks where they havent had a problem. I am yet to see tracks come forth. I dont think everyone is having the problem, my point was more that the ones that say they are not, are probably using navigation only, and therefore possibly not aware.

But you are right, and two wrongs don't make a right as my mother used to say.

Im feeling touchy about it, since Samsung told me that there "is no problem" and yet, I definately do have a problem. That means I either have to return the device which otherwise has been excellent, or put up with it, and have no funds leftover to actually be able to do what I need, which is record tracks. To see someone put wind into Samsungs sails that "there is no problem" is very, very frustrating.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] <<Raj$>>:
I am Verymuch satisfied ....

I have been using it since early July which now is almost a month in Singapore ;). I would say that I am pretty much happy with my SGS and I do not have any problem with the GPS, While driving its just perfect and while walking sometimes it has a difference of may be a <20 meters (I Have been using Cardio Trainer so much and I can assure you that its good may be not just perfect :o:o:o:o).

Do not know whether I am happier than before as my last phone was a iPhone (I still like iPhone but Android just beets it with its widgets).

My Only complaint is Battery (I get only 6+ hours during daylight may be because of my extensive use of GPS) but pretty much it doesn't affect me anyway and my iPhone used to give me at least 14 hours with similar usage.

Launcher Pro is just one awesome launcher that just rocked my world :D:D:D just in reach, I have 3 full empty screen and some more on others because of it (Space saved :cool::cool::cool:)....

On Stock with I9000DXJF4 with Launcher Pro Plus. ;);););)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Dark-Master:
I just thought that a high-end smartphone at this price like I9000 should work flawlessly on stock settings(at least just for default features including GPS and smoothness) for everyone. Well, I may had aim too high for what I paid. :)

I'm not complaining and yet I'm trying to get it better, thanks to XDA and people for such a great community. And thanks to Samsung for having me having problems(or maybe myself), that's why I got into XDA(throught Google). :p

I love my Galaxy S. It's what I chose to pay for. :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] miker71:
Happy: yes

Satisfied: so very nearly

Coming from an iPhone 3G to Nexus One then onto the SGS, the lag issue in the JF3 shipped lag issue annoyed me enough to try the modaco ROM with lag fix - which made everything much much better, to how the phone should have shipped.

Of course I got the ROM flashing habit so now running JP3 (Froyo test build) with no lag fix and the modified /system/build.prop to set "fast" rather than "JIT" and the 32MB heap size and the phone is very stable for a test, I use it every day. Sure it has bugs, but the official Froyo is going to be sweet and hopefully all the obvious bugs squashed. Then I'll be happy.

I'll only be fully satisfied when we have the option of pure Google AOSP builds on this phone.

It's a very good phone and I am indeed a nit-picker because I expect premium products to earn their premium costs.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] saldawop:
Happy SGS user here.This phone has managed to do something I didnt think possible(at this moment it time anyway), it managed to take me away from the iPhone.

My only problem is not with Samsung, but with Android.More specifically the Market and the lack of decent apps(games).Hopefully that will sort itself out soon.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dragunov:
Yeah of course, threads such as these (xda) shouldnt be stuck to positives, but where did you see so many positive threads? The only thing that you can find here (and it is logical) is complains, some complains, some more complains, oh, and some complains as well... And the opposite opinion should always be heard, at least.

People having problem with their phones (or generally anything else) tend to over exaggerate. And just because when we (people who "think", if you prefer, that we do not have problems) post our experiences of good phone functionality, everybody else thinks that we are morons, n00bs or even liars, this thread is intended to be our paradise. Fair enough I believe.

I repeat once again, since nothing has changed, that the lag I experience is max 2 seconds, and that is SOMETIMES, not always, and navigating with NAVIGON couldn't be better.

Oh, and I DO NOT work for Samsung. I am just a happy and non-n00b user.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] zoro02:
I work in the IT Industry. Having software bugs is not a biggie. As long as it get fix.

I had the same issue as everyone else. Lag and GPS issue, but after reading the forums, both issue are resolved now.

1) GPS Status seemed to fix the GPS issue

2) Root permission allows me to remove unnecessary software and now it worked brilliantly

I think the forum in general is a good place for discussion rather than whining. The Galaxy S is the best phone I ever owned (had 2 Winmo and never like iPhone). My friends used HTC and X10...no matter what they say about their phone, I am happy with Samsung Galaxy S.

The call quality is superb (sound clarity) which I have to agree with CNETAsia about the sound quality.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] PsiIion:
I understand your frustration with Samsungs response...it's pretty clear that there is a major problem even if not everyone seems to be affected by it.

Like I said, I have only done one track recording, and it's this one:

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=U...9.027748,15.051098&spn=0.080302,0.147629&z=13

I guess I have to do more to show that it's not fluke, and that it is in fact typical performance for me. I will do that when I get a chance and post them in the GPS poll thread.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Kilack:
Yeah I did a track the other day when I walked around the block (a block here is big...3km's) the track was pretty perfect actually..

Yet the other day when I drove GPS had me on roads parallel to the one I was on sometimes..

What does that mean? no idea.. but the gps obviously has the potential to be extremely accurate.. other times for unknown reasons it can be.. less than accurate.. im encouraged by the good tracks though :).
[Galaxy S I9000 General] SkitchBeatz:
I love mine so far. The GPS is slow but that's my only significant complaint so far. I'm just hoping that the USA versions see froyo soon enough. I've only had this phone for a couple days but I think the battery life is comparable to that of my old blackberry bold 9000 which is flood because it can do so much more.

I hadn't really experienced any lag at all until today but that could be because of the large amount of Apps I have installed
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Insin:
I'm happy very happy with the SGS. I came from an iPhone 3G and after living in Apple world for two years I was ready for a change. The SGS was simply the best Android option I could find and I have to say that the screen clinched it for me.

It is a great phone already and has the potential to do even more with the coming upgrades.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] badmrfrosty:
I am blown away by my Galaxy S. I came from a Nokia 6630 so as you can imagine the difference is night and day. Apart from the terrible GPS this phone is perfect.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] brandon1108:
I think hearing all of these happy buyers may have given me the confidence to choose the SGS over a nexus.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Tachikoma_kun:
Perfectly happy with my SGS, stock ROM, unrooted, installed Advanced Task Manager and set it to kill things not on the safe list every 2 hours, and that's it.

GPS is sometimes a bit flaky, but I had only 2 blips in a 3 hour journey, which is perfectly fine for the rare occasions when I use it.

Still, we get official Froyo end of September, so hopefully all the issues people have had with lag, GPS, etc should be fixed soon.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] robnil:
Have had the phone now for about 8 hours and i think i am pleased. I have read a lot beforehand so i know where to find the weak spots..

GPS actually works pretty good, at least better than I expected from what others had said. The compass is still just a gimmick, but I will search for more info on this issue, the calibration is somewhat unclear to me.

The wifi-issue is an issue. I cannot stay connected more than 5 min UNLESS, and here is a solution: it seems that the problem lays in the dhcp. I set a static IP with manual configurations and it works fine.

There is a problem with 3G reception. Im working on it. It seems to prefer GPRS. Can be the local TELE2 that causes something.

The lag-issue people talks about is a non-issue to me. Sure I have noticed it sometimes, but so what? Im used to winmo hehe. Such a lag can be due to a lot of things. I use atm sometimes but are very selective in what tasks to kill.

The blackness in the screen is incredible. Almost a problem hehe, because I cant tell wether the application is blank, lagg or if the screen is timed out. It it just no differens. Black is black.

The Allshare is a bit troublesome. It finds the different servers correctly and very fast, but I cannot browse all files on all servers. I use the standard Vista and W7-mediacenter as servers. I have not been able to browse and view files from the phone over wifi on Vista windows media player. Hopefully I solve this.

I am very impressed with android as a whole!

Unfortunatly my conclution is still though, if my mom would ask me about a smartphone-advise (that will never happen), I would advise her a fruit-phone. They say they just work as intended from the box. Dont know if its true.

For me i would never go with a fruitphone. A friend gave me a laugh when he saw the app-browsers likeness to apple. I said to him: jepp and do you know what the best is? its no apple!

Just my first impressions to other want-to-buyers :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] wavemechanic:
Happy i9000 user in Australia on Optus, I've had it for about 3 weeks and was just about ready to throw it because of massive lags when the firmware update came through. Now on DTJG4 and lag problems are gone. Gone!

Downsides are that I lost all my settings, installed apps that I hadn't yet backed up etc. Spent all afternoon getting it set up again- boo. Worse still, some of my unbacked-up apps aren't showing up in the market anymore- why would this be?

P.S. If anyone could be so kind as to send me a copy of mapmyride.apk, I'd be most grateful...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MaNIaCv1:
Just wanted to add my experience of the SGS. In the past I’ve always had WM phones so this is the first Android phone I’ve had, and I have to say I’m very pleased with it. WM feels so clunky after using Android. Excellent sound quality, screen and speed. Video recording and the pictures it takes are outstanding. Of course there are some rough edges, no phone I’ve ever owned has been perfect, but the SGS is close. GPS is a bit flaky but hopefully there’ll fix that in later builds.

MaNIaC
[Galaxy S I9000 General] robnil:
To improve the compass from useless to actually pretty goog:

hxxp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP3d00Hr14o

:)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] nCoder:
Hi sjdean

Were you walking?

How was the weather?

Was it in a city with tall buildings?

What software did you use to record?

...

There are many factors that may affect gps, but the "optimizations" are one of the most frequent causes, since some gps firmwares try to derive positions based on direction, velocity,... which doesn't work properly if you're walking.

Weather may affect gps signal (affects accuracy)

Tall buildings affect the gps position (signal bunces).

Gps applications, sometimes shows a diferent position than the gps coordinates (This shouldn't be the case), but just to correct the effect you see in your route.

This is a issue in ALL gps chips in all phones and standalone gps (i.e. TomTom), what happens is that either the chip tries to derive the correct position, or the gps software does that for you (putting you in the nearest road path, if the coordenates are out).

I'd suggest anyone trying to do the same with any other GPS unit / phone and see if the coordenates don't change a lot (dozens of meters) while walking. ;)

Even driving... If you have a GPS unit you'll see that sometimes the software will show you in a parallel road (which is very anoying) in particular if there are trees on one side of the road :P
[Galaxy S I9000 General] sareen:
this might sound a tad gay but yesterday i saw the sgs advert for the first time and i felt sooo proud to be getting this phone in a weeks time :D
[Galaxy S I9000 General] THUDUK:
I have just bought one, it arrives tomorrow.

SOLD my Iphone 3GS...yeees just couldn't get on with the ever controlling Apple, OK probably miss the app store, but the Android apps are starting to look more and more promising and not sure if I am correct but you can create your own ?

I am used to Windows mobile before the Iblip Apple thingy, so hopefully this Galaxy S will be great.

Also I can use the best bit of GPS software designed RUN.GPS, used to use this on my old Windows phones.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] andrewluecke:
My GPS doesn't work well, but it worked fine in JG1 (was getting locks onto 9 sats), so I suspect the JG3/JG5 firmware has intermittent issues for people.

But honestly, otherwise, I'm VERY happy with the phone. It's the best phone I've had in my life and it is changing the way I do things. In later versions, the phone is responsive too. WHO CARES if it takes 3 secs to start some apps sometimes, I waited way longer on my other phone. In the latest firmwares, it's no longer as bad anyway. People are off using Beta firmwares and claiming "oh noez, Samsung broke my phone". Even worse, people don't seem to understand Android memory management.

I'm guessing the people whinging about waiting 3 secs of their valuable time (probably to open google sky) are too important to use this phone, and should simply buy a standard phone. I'm willing to bet when Froyo is released with JIT though, that the rest of the phone will be working fine.

It's a great phone. People just need to give Samsung a chance to release Froyo. GPS has been my only problem.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Kilack:
heh, I'd suggest you read the GPS thread.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] wheelboy:
my experience with the galaxy s is mixed .i had some problems with the gps .i sometimes have te hickup with the memory and cant connect to my pc tru usb whatever i do iam working on it now 4 2 days still isnt working .i had that problem from the beginning although then i could connect on every 10 times 1 time now i cant connect .its getting worse .i have 3 pcs here running w7 32 and x64 one has only w7 64 on it with no other programmes .did reinstall kies drivers all things that i saw on the net with the memory still no suc6 btw no root still original xxjf3 rom on it .

with my iphone 3g it was the opposite no software problems but hardware probles i have got 4 new ones (refurbished) i jailbreaked he things never any problems .

but if now even with the problems i have i would have to choose id still would go for the samsung .why better screen memory replacible battry is replacible also it opens faster internet pages it lasts much longer with a battery .

i think since most problems are firmware /driver related it will be in time a very good phone .
[Galaxy S I9000 General] appelflap:
I know the Kies problems. I downloaded it and deleted it the very same day. I uploaded all my outlook contacts/appointments/tasks to google calendar, created a sync account, checked the automatic sync option and now I never have to worry about syncing, backups etc. etc. :cool:
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
exactly!

there are even easier way to sync stuff up to google account without using Kies

but whatever works for you :D that's all that counts
[Galaxy S I9000 General] wheelboy:
i have now delited everything so iam back with the phone the way if got it from the store and it connects again but got no programms on the phone .

lesson i learned .everytime i put a new programm on it i trie to connect .than i know what the problem is
[Galaxy S I9000 General] All Day On XDA:
Had lag issues in the beginning but I installed autokiller and launcher pro and the lag is gone.

This is on a stock rom so maybe I'm lucky. I may well upgrade to Froyo later but for now I'm very happy with the performance and feature set. Best phone I've owned by a country mile.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
you should also make a BACKUP before you install/try anything new ;)
[Droid Incredible General] qdroid:
I've been noticing the following issues since 2.2 update and applying the fixes posted

Issues that seems to come from update:

1. Charging takes much much longer

Issues that may be from applying the fixes posted in another thread.

1. root priv popup happens randomly stating that XXX app has been granted root

2. gmail pops up with the welcome to gmail message

Curious if anyone else is seeing this.
[Droid Incredible General] crookedmarc:
I've noticed the charging time has increased. Also, the battery life is even worse than before. It seems that the android system is eating up most of my battery. That and the cellular standby. I thought froyo was supposed to be more efficient...
[Droid Incredible General] Θmega:
I believe you can go into Superuser Permissions and disable the notification whenever an app is granted root permissions, and the Gmail popup should only be on the first run. At least, I haven't had it happen more than that.
[Droid Incredible General] MachString:
Not only does it use more battery my phone runs way hotter with the leaked froyo Rom. Using the xda app it would get up to like 105.7°F compared to only around 97.7°F on the leaked 2.1 ota. I also seem to have the same issue with the newer cm and skyraiders don't remember this with the older roms that are not based off the leaked froyo rom.
[Droid Incredible General] cheifkeiff:
Another really important development thread
[Droid Incredible General] gbenj:
I have also noticed an increase in charging time, but I think the decrease in battery life people are seeing is because the processor is not underclocking to a speed around 300mhz like it did before the leaked 2.2 rom.

The 2.1 based roms and kernels would underclock when not being used to capacity but these bottom out around 600-700 mhz when not in standby as far as I can tell.
[Droid Incredible General] qdroid:
Yea, I am also seeing the battery drain insanely quick - much quicker than it was prior to 2.2 and yes, I'm also seeing the battery temp go up much higher than it did in the past.

Are these symptoms of the leaked patch not being 100% complete?
[Droid Incredible General] rynosaur:
The Internet is addicted to anecdotal evidence!

I have seen my battery life improve and charging times decrease -- I'm using stock 2.2 leak w/ patch v4.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] XCharmed:
Wehn i press market icon itjust comes up a message and it say: A error has accurd. Please try later. and in the top it say Android markets user terms. i can see a screen behind the button that i only can press OK on.. but i cant see what it say.. it starts with Bu......... then ends with .....ras. Remember my phone is swedish såå maybe it wont help that much.

Is it possible to download the update and install it again.. maybe something got wrong first time..

Hope for answers.. Bst regards Thomas

EDIT!!!

Im sooo stupid.. forgot to activate backgrounddata..

Any admin can remove this thread if they want!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TulpiX:
Hello

i am searching for an msn client with the following 3 features:

1) no battery drain, i want it to run always in the background but it should not drain battery, so messages should be pushed from the server

2) direct connection to the msn network , i dont want to put in my username/password on some site to use the client

3) simultaneous connect from multiple places, the latest desktop clients can to this, you can connect from multiple clients at the same time and get messages on all clients.

i found multiple msn cllients but none seem to have all features. most seem to be battery drainers.

any ideas ?

thanks
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ZAnwar:
My bro checked his UK, unbranded Desire for updates and noticed that he has an update of around 30MB and not Froyo.

He thinks that maybe he never installed this one and Froyo will show after he first installs this. He goes to install it, but after the green arrows, a red question mark appears in the middle of the screen with a phone. The phone just restarts as normal after this and the update is not applied.

What's causing this? I think it's the 1.21 update if I remember rightly.

His phone IS rooted but it's stock ROM.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ZAnwar:
No-one knows the answer?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steve228uk:
Has he tried un-rooting?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brindyman:
apparently from what ive heard you cant get OTA updates if you've had your phone rooted
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ZAnwar:
That must be it then.

I'll probably skip the official update then and get a decent custom ROM for him.