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[Desire General] emree025:
need help

Need help. At first thank u for all the support - and sorry for my english.

I followed the instructions from post #40

1. I downloaded and installed htc sync for my device (htc desire)

2. on website " htc-evo-hacks/how-to-install-android-sdk-and-adb-drivers-for-htc-evo-4g/" I downloaded the the "appropriate Android SDK" for windows and installed like described on first part.

Need I follow also the instructions like " How to Install ADB Drivers for HTC Evo 4G! (Windows Only) " ???

I tried out this part but I got no ADB device on device manager ?

Is the ADB file on all Windows still installed ? Do you mean shell command ?

because when I opend this i got c:\users\emree025

I found also ADB file in the folder "android-sdk_r06-windows" which I downloaded.

At which time I need to connect the mobile with the pc ? or shoul I leave it connected after step " How to Install ADB Drivers for HTC Evo 4G! (Windows Only) "
[Desire General] Stromma:
I e-mailed a link to this thread to the swedish HTC support to see if Norsehawk where right, and he was...

I've got an answer from Adrian on HTC who says that it's not illegal, but running this command will end the warranty. I then asked if it's limited to Swedish buyers, but he says that's the case against HTC regardless of where you bought your phone.

Included in the support e-mail there's confidentiaity note saying:

I therefor asked if somebody from HTC would like to comment this in this thread, and he answered "Unfortunately, HTC has the policy not to post on the forum. But if you want to post this answer is up to you."

If somebody want to do this it's fine by me.

But if you value the 2 year warranty it's probably better to wait for either an app with these futures or until HTC implement it on your phone themselves.

How do you do that with a broken phone?

Still don't believe this is the truth?

Perhaps you should send an e-mail and ask the HTC Support before you do anything you're going to regret later....
[Desire General] sebaztian:
when you have the ADB on your pc, all you need is to have HTCsync installed and the driver is there in your pc.

You can ignore the part which says you need to be in "Recovery". Just sync the phone as you normally do and using the pc command prompt, key in the command to change the value to 2.
[Desire General] well0549:
So you went to the same source and got the same answer .... Impressive

But i send a mail to the Dutch HTC site with the following question :

I have a question.

1. If I install the SDK from android on my PC.

2. I then install HTC Sync

3. I then will put the USB port on the phone in debug mode.

4. Connect the phone to the PC.

5. Type the followig command.

"adb shell pm setInstallLocation 2"

Will this end the warranty of my phone ?

Awaiting the answer
[Desire General] Stromma:
Good, now were getting somewhere!

The info I've got was that it wasn't illegal, but it would end the warranty on the phone. And it was using the cmd to run commands from that caused it, not installing any SDK, and of course not the HTC Sync.

I don't have a problem with the fact that I'm not allowed to use the cmd regarding to Adrian. But it would bother me if it's ok depending on wich country the phone was bought in.

It would be very interesting to see what Adrian has to say if you get a different answer.
[Desire General] FallDownTheSystem:
I installed sync, and the SDK, installed the SDK Platform android 2.2, API 8, revision 2 and USB driver package, revision 3.

Went to CMD, found the tools folder, did the

C:\android-sdk-windows\tools>adb shell pm setInstallLocation 2

and I get

adb server is out of date. killing...

* daemon started successfully *

Unknown command SetInstallLocation 2

and then it fills the CMD up with some instructions like [usage] and what not, and obviously it didin't work. So what went wrong?

Thanks in advance :D
[Desire General] ranwej:
Use program MarketAccess mentioned before, but don't forget to have USB debugging enabled, or you will not be able to change install location (option for that will be greyed out). MarketAcces working only on rooted phones.

http://amip.tools-for.net/wiki/android/marketaccess
[Desire General] mkhoa0806:
Okay... reach the final step, but when i type the command ...adb shell pm setInstallLocation 2, it tells me that Error: unknown command 'setInstallLocation'??? Any1 can help? Again, im using win 7, is it a reason for this error?
[Desire General] 911_911_911:
One word.....awesome!

Make sure you execute the command in the directory where the and executable is located.

Never would have thought that being old enough to remember MS DOS stuff would benefit me in this day and age.
[Desire General] mkhoa0806:
Seem like i have the same problem with him, so any1 know the solution?
[Desire General] foxmeister:
Most HTC techs on the support line frankly don't know their arse from their elbow.

If you start a conversation with "If I do this, <xxxx>, will I invalidate my warranty?", the answer will almost invariably be yes, regardless of whether <xxxx> is "smash the phone violently against a rock", or "brush it lightly with a feather".

Amending the install location via ADB does not involve "breaking" HTC security, or using your device in a manner other than was intended (since it is built in) so I cannot see how they could possibly refuse a warranty repair based on this. It's not like "rooting" where you are actively circumventing protections that they have in place - if HTC wanted to, they could simple remove this command from their version of Android, but they haven't!

Would I be prepared to go legal on this? Absolutely! :)

Make of this what you will, but bear in mind when you log a call with HTC support, their primary goal is to "close the call" not to "solve your problem"!

Regards,

Dave
[Desire General] emree025:
adb apps to sd

Hello and thank u sebaztian for answer. I use desire 2nd day, so when u say i should syn like normally what do you mean? Because i still have no syn ed before. open htc sync and connect desire on normal mode not closed or in recovery mode? and then i need to klick on htc sync? and then?
[Desire General] JustBored:
Fantastic!

I love my Desire even more!

Thanks!

Anyone had any problem with moved apps?

Not me :) working great
[Desire General] FallDownTheSystem:
Seriously, any answer to this?
[Desire General] JustBored:
- Falldown...- So if you only type "adb" you get alot of text starting with "android debug bridge version 1.0.26" ?
[Desire General] FallDownTheSystem:
Yeah, I get exactly that.
[Desire General] snark_be:
The adb commands are case-sensitive. In the error message, I read that it says SetInstallLocation. The first character should be a lower-case "s", not an upper-case "S".

Try "adb shell pm setInstallLocation 2".
[Desire General] JustBored:
Your mobile is in normal sync mode?
[Desire General] FallDownTheSystem:
That was it, such small things that go unnoticed, thank you very much :D

And it seems to be working :D
[Desire General] HyperL:
Works perfectly on my HTC Desire with stock 2.2 Froyo OTA
[Desire General] infazz:
Hmm.. when my phone in recovery mode, and I connect usb cable to it, pc not recognize it as ADB devise, pc recognize it as Android USB Devices > My HTC

wtf? :)
[Desire General] infazz:
am I must uninstal previesly installed drivers firs?
[Desire General] JustBored:
What about automatic updates of apps installed on my phone.

The new version, will it be installed on the phone or the SD?
[Desire General] txitxi2004:
If i read that one line before i could have saved a full day trying to sort this out..

i always got this error

C:\android-sdk-windows\tools>adb shell pm setInstallLocation 2
adb server is out of date. killing...
* daemon started successfully *
error: device offline

i tried to solve it with diffrent drivers diffrent sdk files

nothing man

i just kept the phone out of recovery mode and did it while it was on and in sync with htc sync with usb debugging on.

AND IT WORKS :D

Thank you man

else one else having same issues do it without recovery mode :D
[Desire General] infazz:
woohoo I did it too :)
[Desire General] tobias14:
works for me.. thanks a lot, already saved 10 MB by moving 4 games to SD
[Desire General] Merzhin:
Works fine for me since a week now.:)

The only bug I get is when restarting my Desire, it doesn't see the apps on the SD card immediatly. Icons of these apps are white.

I have to wait about 1 minute to get all access to the apps and icons become normal...:confused:
[Desire General] makedoc:
Yes I confirm that works well on Desire with OTA 2.2. Very simple to install. Thanks very much.
[Desire General] AndroidGeek:
+1, I have installed the SDK file (as the link said, with 2.2 package instead of the 2.1) and HTC Sync with driver. I connect the Desire, in debugging mode, as "disc unit" (have tried "HTC Sync" also). Then I start cmd which says "C:\Users\Tobias>". The SDK file was installed on C:\. I don't know what to write in the cmd to find the tool file to start adb. I'm a newbie and would like some help.
[Desire General] boc_est1986:
The trick to getting Skies of Glory and other stubborn apps to move is to use a terminal emulator (you must be rooted) and type the following

su

SetInsallLocation 2

i have all my apps forced over to sd card
[Desire General] milkpowder:
Thanks! Got it working.
[Desire General] Futurian:
Cheers for this well! This well deserves to be stickied (pun not intended) ;-)
[Desire General] steve228uk:
Works great, just don't install widgets to SD!
[Desire General] Jelte12345:
i have had this now since the update was released, and since a couple of days mine is having some isseus. they fit some of the isseus that are noticed on bricked desires. this is the closest ive ever been to rooting my desire. is it theoretically posible that this bricks your desire?

or do i have another problem?
[Desire General] foxmeister:
My whole point is that Skies of Glory won't move, *regardless* of what setInstallLocation is set too. All of my apps, bar that one, can be moved.

Incidently, if you rooted, there are apps that will set the install location for you, rather than having to drop the command line! ;) You can also do it via ADB when in Recovery for non-rooted devices.

Regards,

Dave
[Desire General] dsymbol:
Thank you so much for the info. I'm able to move files to the SD card now!!!

***Update: The apps that I've moved to SD card disappeared. None of them is set as the widget. they are put on the desktop as an app short cut.

BTW, I have an app for Input Method, its size is 1.7mb.

Should I move it to the SD card? I read somewhere that app like Input method & keyboard should be left in the phone's storage?

Thanks again,

D
[Desire General] aldweb:
Maybe the easy way is to do everything in the device itself, avoiding all about the HTC Sync and adb stuff...

So, this is how to proceed:

1. download one of the shell terminal applications on the market (I personally use the free Android Terminal Emulator from Jack Palevich)

2. open it, and key in pm setInstallLocation [option] ([option] being 0, 1 or 2 as explained in the first post)

Just so easy because no root is needed.

Cheers,

aldweb
[Desire General] TP-Power:
Works like a charm.. I don't think you can loose your waranty with this guys. If you sent your phone back for repairs just put it on 0 again. :)

Thanks again for posting!
[Desire General] foxmeister:
I would definitely leave any input methods on phone storage.

Regards,

Dave
[Desire General] Bomaster:
doing this and mine says [1] Killed pm setInstallLocation 2

then I go to move apps and it is still greyed out, any suggestions?
[Desire General] chichoko:
Thanks for the info mate but i couldnt make it work for me.. when i type in pm setInstallLocation 2 it says process killed and nothing happens.. do i need to softreset? Or have i made any typing mistakes?

Please clarify it a bit more because im a complete noob when it comes to Linux terminals.. thanks in advance!
[Desire General] aldweb:
I guess root is required then for the terminal trick to work.

Sorry...
[Desire General] mnaeh:
please confirm if you have or don't have this problem

I see all of you talking about moving apps to SD big time. I tried moving only "developer approved apps" (e.g. Rock Player) and every time this problem happens:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=744581

Later I tried method described in this thread and I could move ANY app to SD, but problem persisted so I returned it to "normal".

Please, please, please answer me is it possible that no one here have this issue??
[Desire General] kuzek1:
hi, it seems that the only way is to emulate sd partition as the external memory of the device.
[Desire General] PianoSam:
problem with adb

I downloaded the Android sdk and installed it. I am told from within the Android ask and avd manager that I have the ask tools v6 .

I am running wwe 2.2 froyo.

When i go to the cmd prompt on my xp workstation and run:

Adb shell pm list features I get a list of Android features from my attached phone.

When I use the command:

Adb shell pm Setinstalllocation 2

I am told it is an unrecognized command, even though it is listed in the help notes that ate displayed immediately following.

Can anyone help?

Sam
[Desire General] snark_be:
The command is case-sensitive. It MUST be:

"adb shell pm setInstallLocation 2"
[Desire General] wardy666:
Vodafone 2.2

Just done this on my Desire with the new Vodafone 2.2 firmware, and works great, so many more apps :D

Thanks!
[Desire General] mardiie:
After doing this my phone stopped being able to record movies. I googled it and there were some threads about it having to do with this app2sd method.

I think im going to revert it and then check back in here to tell if it works again.
[Desire General] Bonobow:
I tried and tried... but couldn't get this to work for me...
[Desire General] tsoifun:
I've made. Although not all of them still can be moved but at least much more then foroyo's a2sd - thanks for the idea :)
[Desire General] foxmeister:
You're not likely to get much help if you don't give any more details of the problems you had!

Q1: Did you manage to connect to the phone via ADB?

Q2: If the answer to Q1 is yes, did you try to run the ADB command whilst the phone was in recovery?

Regards,

Dave
[Desire General] vybztymz:
is it possible to create a 1gb Ext2/3/4 partition

Hi.

I have an HTC Desire (T-Mobile UK) usng the Pinky Desre 1.8 rom. I have ROM Manager Premium installed, but this only allows upto 512mb for an ext partition.

I have a 8gb MicroSD card and would liike to create a 1gb ext2/3/4 partiton.

Does anyone have any nfo on how I can do this (assumng that ts possible of course)

Thanks in advance.
[Desire General] dexteral:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RieL7vHt6AE

someone posted this video ..... maybe it will help some ...

plus gr8 i managed to go from 28MB free to now 55MB. homerun battle 3d didnt move though
[Desire General] senninha:
thanks a lot! went from 22MB free to 70MB ;)
[Desire General] chriskin:
this happend to me too, did it happen to anyone else?

would going back to "0" solve this and let the moved apps at the sd working?
[Desire General] Rastaman-FB:
i get permission denied when i try and run do this on ADB

stock 2.2 2.09.405.8
[Desire General] Ronok:
I finally decided to try this mod. Although I have the feeling I did something wrong (adb server out of date), I can move a lot of apps to SD. System apps and widgets are unmovable, which is a good thing.

The problem is, after moving all the apps, I didn't free much space. It went from 14 mb to 20 mb. I've read some replies from people who managed to get from 20 to 70 mb free space??? Maybe I have too many small apps with data and cache on the internal memory. Because I can't imagine freeing 50 mb extra by uninstalling apps... Maybe if I remove everything I downloaded.

any thoughts?
[Desire General] HC4Life:
Yeahhh!!!

After i follow the steps from many guys of this thread i did it and it works great.

Thanx to all ;)
[Desire General] TieT:
you can also install the app

Mod install location

Then open it up and select 2 (external)

Now you can move your apps.

And switch back easy ;)
[Desire General] foxmeister:
This has already been mentioned several times in this thread, but you've missed an important detail and that is that this application only works on rooted phones.

If you are unrooted, you have to use the ADB method.

Regards,

Dave
[Desire General] TieT:
im sorry but this app hasn't been mentioned , and ive read thru the whole thread (again)

Market acces and Spare Parts are mentioned ;)

And yes its for rooted phones
[Desire General] foxmeister:
Sorry - you are correct! :)

This is the app I've been using, and I mentioned in passing twice in this thread that there were apps for this, but going back I never actually named it here, though I have in other threads! :o

Regards

Dave
[Desire General] TieT:
lol dave :D

p.s. its a great app !
[Desire General] HC4Life:
Hi,

After i change location with command prompt now i can move apps to sd card.

But i can't connect to my pc with htc sync or with disc drive. I think i kill the connection between my device and my pc.

Any help? :(
[Desire General] HC4Life:
It's working again.

I simply remove the battery and start the device.

Sorry :o
[Desire General] AlSopranos:
After a week with this tweak i cant download from market got unknown reason 18 cant update or install anything had to revert it back to normal and forrget this tweak and now its working?
[Desire General] ToneBank:
Hi, when I set the default install location to "0" everything works ok, ie usb-drive mode and all market downloads. But If I change to "2" there are some problems, I cant install some of the apps. It just says install failed. I´m on the latest OTA.

Any one have a fix?

thanks
[Desire General] AlSopranos:
Yeah same fkng problem!
[Desire General] godutch:
Great this guide works for 32bits linux too. Download the sdk for linux unpack to in this example the Desktop

step 1

Download the sdk for linux unpack to in this example the Desktop

step 2

cd Desktop/android-sdk-linux_x86/tools

step 3

depending on distro setup use su or sudo:

sudo ./adb shell pm setInstallLocation 2

or

su

./adb shell pm setInstallLocation 2

in case of errors:

if you get a permission error (use sudo or su depending on your setup)

sudo ./adb kill-server

sudo ./adb start-server

and try again:

sudo ./adb shell pm setInstallLocation 2
[Desire General] alexcavaco:
Worked fine in mine, a stock Froyo (2.2).

Has reported by App2SD, I previously had around 18MB-20MB available of internal memory, I now have 44.13MB available, just by moving some downloaded apps :)

After performing the 'house cleaning' I've set install location back to 0 (auto), so any new app I download is stored in internal memory again... It's better this way to prevent any problems.

Thanks for the tip!
[Desire General] AlSopranos:
Yeah but when i want to update apps located on my external i CANT! There must be something messed up please help me solve this problem.
[Desire General] Ronok:
from 20mb to 50 mb

from 18-20 to 44 mb...

I went from 15mb to 25mb. I'm able to move all apps, but I have the feeling that most apps still leave a big footprint on internal memory. At the moment I have 44 apps installed and 17MB free. I can't imagine how I can ever get to 50 MB free space without uninstalling almost everything.

And I don't think 44 apps is extraordinary? Or is it? I did the count: 45.345 MB total. But, that's the total from Appbrain. So the real number should be lower because appbrain counts the theoretical internal memory space.

I don't get it? 50 MB of internal apps (like htc sense) and data (like mails, contacts)?
[Desire General] McDz:
Should I do this or not ? Have a big memory problem.. with 2 or 3 apps thats take about 100 mb internal memory.

( Navigon, copilot and a car game)

* I have read this tread twice but I really dont know *
[Desire General] snark_be:
It works great for me, but ...

... why do you keep 2 navigation applications on your Desire? Just stick with one and it'll save a bunch of memory.
[Desire General] McDz:
I cant decide the best one for me.. and two paid apps so...

I will test it :)
[Desire General] F0l3ert:
Thanks. This really helped me out. No need to root!
[Desire General] The Letter M:
hi guys and gals, every time i try to download HTC Sync, with my S/N it downloads the wildfire version of HTC Sync? is that normal?
[Desire General] McDz:
Strange, I download it yesterday...

http://www.htc.com/europe/supportDownload.aspx?p_id=312&cat=3&dl_id=982

Works well from 18mb free to 67 mb :)

After I moved program I change the value back to 0 dont understand how this have anyting to do with a broke worrenty.
[Desire General] auldreekie:
Just installed the 2.2 update then installed app2sd. It seems not all installed stuff on my phone will move to sd, the Move to SD button is greyed out. Photoshop express/Shazzam/Zedge just a few examples.

Do I need to uninstall these programs the reinstall again, will I get the option to install to SD card?
[Desire General] erichbitch:
I have a problem:

I changed "Install" to 2 (External) and was able to move most important apps.

The apps worked for me and everything was fine.

then i changed "Install" back to 0 (Auto) and suddenly all apps i previously moved were gone.

Do i have to install them again or what happened?
[Desire General] niklz:
OMFG ty! This is what I've been looking for, cant believe I didn't search it a few weeks ago before I had 2.2...

Quality of phone significantly increased, thank you sir
[Desire General] saiprasad30:
HI Guys,

I would never muck up with this again. DID that. It worked or may have worked. For Older Apps it did not move (or moved only somes files.) Eventually ended up filling my Desire's memory. Okay next removed all the installed apps. WOW for an App size of 3MB it removed only 500KB remaining data ???. My phone ended up rebooting itself infinitely and I had to do a complete reset. Lost all my data...

That was what happened to me. Others might have a better experience. TRY IT.....

I tried this when I had 2.1..
[Desire General] glumardok:
I've experienced the same issue. It occured after the last OTA, before, everything went well. In addition, it seems that some programmers since the appearance of Froyo have changed the settings in their apps to the effect that they install on the phone only (for instance the XDA-Tapatalk app).

The effect is that the installation of an update of an app that has been moved to the SD card fails because the new app, which installs on the phone internally only can not properly "replace" the old app. And a new app which is set to install on the phone only will not install due to the setting to install on the SD card.

The only solution that I found is, to change back using the ADB from 2 to 0. Then the apps which are to be updated need to be shifted back to the phone (via menu>settings>apps>apps administration). Then reboot the phone and the update should work. If not, check once again, whether the app has properly been moved to the phone's storage and eventually repeat the procedure.

Once all new apps and updates have been installed, use again the ADB process and change back from 0 to 2.

I hope that the next OTA will fix the issue - I have had no problems until the last OTA and have used the setting 2 since the Froyo update since early in August.

Hope this helps for others as well. :-)
[Desire General] rottunix:
Why should a developer do something like that. Instead of using the features they are disabling it. Bad move...
[Desire General] denial86:
What if I do this and want to move to a different sd card? is there a directory I should just copy or should I move all to phone and then back to the new sd?
[Desire General] Ronok:
Is it possible that the total space is not properly calculated after doing this mod? I went to my app list, selected “all applications” and did the count one by one: 45MB total (including contacts, htc sense,…). Then I checked the free space. At the moment it says: 14.85 MB free. Am I missing 90MB (150MB – 45MB – 14.85MB)? :confused:
[Desire General] denial86:
Anyone who could answer me this question? :)