yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Desire General] AndyChecker:
The reason I went for the rooting method detailed in my post above is that you can get stock roms and go back to unrooted later I believe where as if you get the OTA update etc your boot loader gets upgraded to one that can't be used with anything.
[Desire General] Com-man:
But you said you also intstalled the vodafone update?

Are you now saying i cant do anything cuz i installed it? Sorry im a bit confused now.
[Desire General] AndyChecker:
Not sure if this was for me but if so yes I installed the Vodafone update yesterday and then went looking for how to remove the crap that it has put on.
[Desire General] Maix27:
As far as i'm aware you have to root to flash a new rom...

What i'm planning on doing is sticking a new 2.2 rom on for now, waiting untill we see how bad the Vodafone 2.2 rom is and if it's reletivly okay i will go back to Voda 2.1 and use the OTA update to unroot...
[Desire General] twe69:
Thanks for the info, am on Vodafone here in the UK but haven't had a notification about downloading it. I was originally waiting for the official 2.2 update to come out but I can just see Vodafone adding all their junk to it. So going to just debrand it and try some custom roms in the next week or two once more of the bugs have been ironed out.
[Desire General] _________:
Nice work, Andy!

One question though: are you able to install a stock HTC 2.2 Android? For instance, the "RUU_Bravo_HTC_WWE_1.21.405.2_Radio_32.36.00.28U_4. 06.00.02_2_release_126984_signed.exe" one?

Or can you only install these unofficial ROMs like Cyanogenmod?
[Desire General] minority2000uk:
Hey guys n girls

Stupidly took the update from voda and now looking for away to get rid of it, stupid double emails and a waste of my space.

Had to clean the phone just to get the update and didn't think ot check what it was!

If I root my phone can I load in the stock 2.1 htc desire rom and then unroot it so that it looks to htc that warrenty is intact and I can get over the air updates again?

If I can I know what i be doing tonight.

What a waste of 10mb and I am sure my phone is slower now it is especially slow at start up with that hidious comma.
[Desire General] AndyChecker:
I think you can install any of the official roms too BUT I have read some of the Over The Air (OTA) updates update your boot loader which means the end of rooting IF you want so I went for thae rom listed and it is great.
[Desire General] TheCheekyMonkey:
OK andy checker, any chance of some advice.

am not interested in rooting my phone, i just want the stock HTC 2.2 rom on.

i currently thought i had an unbranded phone, did the update and all of a sudden i`m a vodafone customer........

so all i want to do is somehow get onto the Stock HTC 2.2 froyo rom, hopefully being able to do it OTA and also OTA in the future?

cheers
[Desire General] minority2000uk:
TheCheekyMonkey

I am in the same boat and from my understanding the only way we will manage this is to do the following:

Root the phone.

Apply the 2.1 offical HTC Rom

Un-root phone

check for update for 2.2.

Can anyone tell me if I am correct also be handy if post could have all the bits to actually achieve this.
[Desire General] mancuk29:
Seems a little unethical of vodaphone to do this when froyo is also released to other users glad I'm on a unbranded 3 UK phone I thought three were underhand vodaphone now tops my companies to avoid !
[Desire General] AndyChecker:
Yes I believe this is the only way to do this - anyone else able to help?

Instead of installing the rom I put in the earlier instructions just get a 2.1 official HTC Rom and then get rid of the root after installing this.

However the downside of doing this and then updating to an OTA update is the boot loader being updated = no more rooting until peeps crack it.

The above is my best effort to help but I have not tried a stock rom so take no responsibilites yada yada ;)
[Desire General] GaelForce:
On part 3 the link says to flash the latest radio, at the risk of asking an already answered question, is this just a case of selecting "install zip from sdcard" in recovery and navigating to the radio zip before flashing the ROM image?

I bricked my Hero at this stage before so just want to be double sure!

Before the flaming begins, i have tried searching the forum...

Thanks in advance
[Desire General] BrightSilence:
Ok, I'm in the same boat as a lot of other people here. Got the Vodafone trash and really all I want is to just get my phone the way HTC meant it to be. So I'm fine with an unrooted and unrootable Froyo from the HTC OTA update. Now I just want to double check before I start trying this.

I have HBOOT 0.80 and am using a goldcard for all of this.

Download Unrevoked 3 here:

Follow these instrcutions to use it: (Do I just follow step 1?)

Can I immediately flash the official 2.2 ROM through the SD card like explained in step 2 or should I flash an older version first? And are there ROM's I shouldn't use for this HBOOT version? It's not entirely clear to me from this point on.

Is this all or did I forget something?

Thanks in advance. I never felt the urge to root before, so I have no experience. Vodafone just took it too far this time. Also, I can confirm that it's not just UK since I'm a Vodafone NL customer.

Ps. had to remove the URL's because of my noobishness :)
[Desire General] jim.carnochan:
Just had an idea, if Vodafone wish to brand our handsets with stuff we don't want or need, then they will be quite happy if we brand all there premises. We all have access to apps like foursquare, gowalla and yelp. All let you set markers for places around every town and city worldwide. These apps are starting to emerge faster and bigger than existing social networks. Maybe Vodafone won't be as impressed as we are at being targeted with bloatware?

Just a thought
[Desire General] steve228uk:
Does the branded ROM remove any functionality like the Orange does with removal of Google Talk? If it does it's in breach of EU law under Directive 1999/44/EC, which was accepted into European Parliament on January 1, 2002.

“The goods must:

• comply with the description given by the seller and posses the same qualities and characteristics as other similar goods

• be fit for the purpose which the consumer requires them and which was made known to the seller at the time of purchase.”
[Desire General] steve228uk:
Just emailed Vodafone with:

"Whilst I may not be a Vodafone customer myself, a friend of mine is and received an interesting OTA (Over-the-Air) update to her HTC Desire recently. The update in question installed to her phone Vodafone software and branded it with Vodafone screens and icons.

As someone who is studying law, it came to my attention that this update seems to be illegal under the EU Directive 1999/44/EC, which was accepted into European Parliament on January 1, 2002. The Directive states:

“The goods must:

• comply with the description given by the seller and posses the same qualities and characteristics as other similar goods

• be fit for the purpose which the consumer requires them and which was made known to the seller at the time of purchase.”

The phone was pitched to her as an 'unbranded' handset by the Vodafone salesman and was one of the reasons she chose your network over orange."

I may have told a porkie a wee bit ;)
[Desire General] brianius:
Thank you so much for this great Information! Was nearly to press install! Thanks again! Oh that was tight :)

Edit: That's a great pity what vodafone is doing here and froyo will be as branded as this update, so now I'm sure to change to htc unbranded ruu and get their froyo. Thanks a lot vofo - don't need your illegal branding!

@steve228uk: Nice mail, but they probably won't answer and only hope is that a lot of vofo customers call the hotlines and complain about that, so that the press will make some noise against vofo and they'll see their big mistake and maybe apologize with faster froyo! :D

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire General] barney2005:
Sorted!

Many thanks! My Desire is now free of that Vodafone rubbish! I thought I was going to be stuck with it.
[Desire General] steve228uk:
I'm fairly sure they won't reply either. Hopefully Engadget or Gizmodo will pick it up. I wonder if this will give cause to cancel the contract though I'm sure there's a clause that will get them out of that.
[Desire General] steve228uk:
Vodafone tweeted me this.

"VodafoneUK: @steve228uk Hi, you can find more info about this here - http://bit.ly/9KUNAX Thanks. ^ER"

--http://www.twitter.com/VodafoneUK/status/20382095576
[Desire General] alginon1977:
round and round

so called VF to ask them what there playing at they said HTC cal sort it for you phoned HTC once the guy stoped laffing he said they had no knowledge VF had realesed the update and the only way to get rid of it is to r00t phone.

Went to VF shop and ther knew nothing as i was waiting i noted 4 other disire users i was 2nd in Q in front of me was a mean looking bugger and he let rip so much so center security were out side shop incase he went atomic but he just held back and no more then i let rip and so did the others that the store manager was forced to call HQ who even fobbed him off and said he would get a e-mail about it in the next few days.

so VF care so little for there ppl in the fireing line even there sick and hands are tied
[Desire General] PianoSam:
So I have spent the last two hours on the phone to Vodafone and HTC with the exact same process:

1. Vodafone say there are some problems so we will pass you through to HTC to remove the update

2. HTC say do a few hard resets and then either complain to Vodafone or send your phone to us (7-10 days) and we will see if we can sort things out.

HTC are unaware of the Vodafone update they kept thinking it was 2.2 which Vodafone are due to ship any day.

What I need now:

1. Someone to point me to the official pre update Vodafone 2.1 ROM so I can blow my phone and load this using unrevoke(?).

This way I think I will be able to update OTA to Vodafone 2.2 when it comes, am I right?

Can anyone help with my plea?

All the best,

Sam
[Desire General] brianius:
Here you can find the old vodafone-roms (all named vodafone_uk, buts the same for whole europe ;) )

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=695667

There are a lot of threads how to downgrade a rom, try search...

To get your phone unbranded:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=696189

And the Official 2.2 ROM rooted + newest Radio link!:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=741775

I heard about other Vofo users, that have first debranded, then rooted with unrevoked and then installed newest radio, then installed 2.2 rom ;)

Hope that'll help
[Desire General] brianius:
"good" news, vofo stopped this update and there will be another "fixed" update in next days, but froyo will take much more time...

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire General] PianoSam:
Brianius thanks for your comments. Sadly the shipped roms site is no more so I cannot get the files from there...do you know anywhere else that I can get them?

I was really happy with my Desire before Vodafone broke it and I wanted to keep it stock and legal so I got OTA updates etc. If I can get back to the pre update1 state I will be very pleased.

Does anyone who has not carried out the update have time to copy their ROM for me?

All the best,

Sam
[Desire General] atmaui:
I'm one of many that by mistake dowloaded the CRAPPY Vodafone (Germany) OTA update.

I tried your steps higlighted above, but in Step 2, while using Unrevoked 3, it get stuck while pushing the image. No changes what so ever, on the phone or the program.

Attached is an image of UnrEVOked 3:
[Desire General] boomclart:
Is this the Official HTC Froyo 2.2 ROM, once flashed your unbranded and lose root?

RUU_Bravo_HTC_WWE_1.21.405.2_Radio_32.36.00.28U_4. 06.00.02_2_release_126984_signed.exe
[Desire General] atmaui:
Can't Get It To Work

Andy,

I've tried your guides, but I'm still stucked in STEP 2 (See my POST #55 with attached image).
[Desire General] BigRD:
@atmaui

you need to run as administrator

Right click on reflash.exe -> Run as administrator
[Desire General] PhoenixNLx:
hmm i tried the unrEVOked method by using a .zip of the rom Neophyte which you discribed, but all i see now is a flasy red,blue,yello and green thingy all time :/ crap did i brick my desire???

fogotted to whipe factory/reset

and now it works! no vodafone crap anymore and 2.2 :D
[Desire General] minority2000uk:
Just wondering has anyone else been sensored on the vodafone site, I just replied to a thread and it said it was being moderated....
[Desire General] PhoenixNLx:
when trying the camera 720p the system stucks and reboots? ill try 480p now. see he reboots again or not.

edit: same :( cant use my camera anymore? maybe rom related?
[Desire General] itsfozzy:
Thanks for the instructions, and thanks to Vodafone for giving me a good enough reason to root my phone.

And thanks for the custom ROM that allows me to wake my phone by pressing the tracking button
[Desire General] JorB:
question please...

I too have a Desire from Voda and have been eagerly awaiting Froyo, only to be

disappointed that it will now come with loads of branding.

So I debranded my Desire using the method described on these forums somewhere (won't let me post a link). I'm now running 1.21.405.2 which I understand to be the HTC generic 2.1 update 1 software. I have HBoot 0.80.

After doing this I was expecting to be able to get Froyo by doing a software check on the phone, but all I get is that my phone is up to date.

Can someone tell me where I am going wrong please?

I created the goldcard on a spare 4Gb micros sd card and once I was back to 2.1 I replaced it with my 16Gb card. Was that wrong?

Also, is what I have done, ie debranding, the same as rooting? Is my phone now rooted?

Help much appreciated.

Edit: or is it that 2.2 is currently unavailable as has been speculated in another thread?
[Desire General] aindow:
Use your gold card anytime you want to update, via pc or over the air. There's a thread on here with people commenting that the HTC update may have been removed for now.
[Desire General] Kiz_:
Hi Forum,

First post so please be polite! lol...

Anyway, I'm experianced with playing with many devices, such as my pda, psp, nds, nokias etc etc... But my lovely Desire is my first Android.

What I have is a bloated vodafone handset, like many thinking I had a device that was un-branded and I ran the updated hoping it was Froyo... But I got Stung with the VF Bloatware... Not that this is an issue, but duplicating all my sms's, not getting sms or email notifications consistently and my wife finding dating links in my bookmarks is a big issue!!!

Now, after emailing the VF CEO, complaining to thier crapy customer services, what I want is a off the shelf standard HTC Desire... Like I had before!

So... reading this forums. I found out about rooting, I guess this is simular to Jailbreaking.

I actually dont want to jailbreak...

What I would like is some clear guidance on how I can get a normal OTA 2.2 update to my phone...

Please help!

Thanks,

Kiz
[Desire General] atmaui:
@BigRD

I got it working fine now. I overlooked an step in one of the guides about uninstalling HTC Sync, After that everything worked as a charm.

Finally, free from all that VF crap!
[Desire General] itsfozzy:
I had the same problem, I solved it by flashing the radio. Use the one on the NeoPhyTe XDA page.
[Desire General] TheCheekyMonkey:
The signal on my phone is now pretty crap since i had this update, i had 2 bars in my work space, not it fluctuates between 0 1 and 2 , and alot of the time i have just voice mail notifications appearing as in my phone has no signal.

really really really pissed off now, vodafone have really took the piss with this one.

i understand i was in a low signal are in my work place, but this is just taking the piss now.

rant over.
[Desire General] C_S_R:
I just got this email from Vodafone.....

The Click link goes to this page.....
[Desire General] EddyOS:
You can't without rooting at present, you'll have to wait for Vodafone to release it
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hackm0d:
Which is the best Sense UI ROM that is stable for everyday usage and fast enough to match stock Android?

I tried Kingxklick's FroyoDesire2Nexus ROM and it was a bit choppy, with a lot of graphical issues. Also free RAM was pretty much non-existent.

Does anyone else have any suggestions for another ROM I could try?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chesh420:
This one seems the nicest and most developed recently. Based off the Desire rom: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=730290
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] x986123:
Kingklick's newest 1.0 and 1.1 is very fast and no graphical bugs at all.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hackm0d:
Is that a Froyo ROM?

Edit:Yeah I just checked it out, it's an Eclair ROM. IIRC I tried the FroyoDesire2Nexus ALPHA3 build and it definitely feels sluggish and has graphical issues. :(
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hackm0d:
double post
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alix0056:
I am using eViL D's HTC Sense v.09.8 and I think it's pretty fast and stable.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=730290
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hackm0d:
No graphical glitches? Those are pretty irritating.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johnnie93:
+1 the best froyo/desire ROM!
[EVO 4G General] opie2l:
My battery made it to 1:00 o'clock today with the new 2.2 update that i did last night. It normally lasts till 11 - 12 at night. Whats up with that?

FYI - All the same apps,widgets, and settings

**UPDATE**

Doing a factory reset fixed the problem for me!!
[EVO 4G General] pecosROB:
Strange, I'm sitting at 75% after 5 hours off the charger and using it for moderate text usage (probably less than 80 messages today). Usually around this time it's sitting closer to 60%.
[EVO 4G General] formulabird:
i have the .3 update and went from about 24 hours to about 8-10 hours. Battery life cut in half. My friend who has .3 is having same issue too. So much for increasing battery life.
[EVO 4G General] pecosROB:
Wow. Have you searched the forum to see if anyone else has the same issue? If not I hope it's not an isolated incident. Then again if it's isolated maybe you can get support on it better...? Good luck finding a solution.
[EVO 4G General] Aridon:
You gave us zero information to help you. So thus, you will not get any help.

There are about a billion threads on here about battery life and how to tweak it. When you flashed 2.2 you will need to do those steps again.
[EVO 4G General] formulabird:
yeah some people are reporting bad battery life after update. most people i know are on .3. don't know if .6 fixes this hopefully we get update soon
[EVO 4G General] diomark:
I did a test last night. Dropped 13% between 1130 and 3:30am With wifi on (got up cause of baby), then only 10% between 330 and 8am with wifi off. So a drop of only 23% overnight.

That's with one exchange account, one gmail account (both syncing as items arrive), htc news set to not sync, but newsdesk and feedr both syncing. Facebook for htc set to sync contacts only.
[EVO 4G General] clayginn:
I had the same issue on all 2.2 ROMs I tried.. i am now going through the apps one at a time to see which one is the issue.

right now I am 7 hours in and sitting at 75% very light use ( read about 7 emails, 5 new articles and little to no Web surfing). installed 10s so far other than the standard with Fresh latest ROM that is.
[EVO 4G General] nhutpham:
I've actually had very good battery life, I'm running the .3 release. Battery life for me has been very comparable to running Baked Snack 9.6, with its underclocking/undervolting power save features. Moderate use of the phone for 8 hours (wifi, browsing websites here and there, one navigation route, texting, bunch of short phone calls, playing some games), my battery was around 65 or so, same as I had before for similar usage.

I did do a full wipe though, and haven't calibrated my battery since updating.
[EVO 4G General] opie2l:
I am just stating a observation on my part. And i know all the little tricks of how to get better battery life. But like i said, before the update i was getting a full day of battery and now after the update i am getting half. With the same settings and the usage on my part.
[EVO 4G General] diomark:
maybe because some of the htc sync stuff that you might have disabled before re-enabled.

Check that.

-mark
[EVO 4G General] opie2l:
Yeah, i already went through all the settings last night.
[EVO 4G General] trojandnc:
This is not directed at you personally, but at the words you chose to use:

I am sick and tired of "tweaks and settings and cutting things off." I used them and got over 30 hours on both DamageControl and Fresh.

I paid Sprint/HTC good money for this awesome phone (and am committed to pay them a whole lot more over the course of the next 22 months).

While I can understand the 4G thing, why should I have to cut off Data-WiFi-Bluetooth, power down the CPU, not use it a lot in order to get... in short, drive it like a Toyota Prius when then phone is billed as a Maserati? Why should I have to try out this app and that app(Overclock widget, SetCPU, System Manager, Task Killer, Autostarts etc which all use battery too) in order to get the phone to do what it should have done on June 4, 2010?

Most of the battery draining apps and widgets come pre-loaded with sense (i.e. the Favorite widget, Friendstream etc). Why should I have to resort to rooting my phone or not using it in order to get the thing to last all day?

I'm keeping my EVO cause I love the device, but maybe Sprint/HTC need a little of the medicine that Jobs/Apple is getting in the form of lawsuits due to over-promising/under-delivering.

/off_my_soap_box
[EVO 4G General] opie2l:
You should send that rant to HTC and Sprint... I think we all stand behind you on that one.
[EVO 4G General] clayginn:
there are lots of reasons a battery might not last. there are way to many tweaks out there which is why you have to do it yourself.

First set the phone up like you normally have it and test the battery life. if you can live with it your good. if not start looking at the settings. Read the tweaks but don't just take them as golden as everyone is different and uses their phone different. Ask yourself if you real need that setting. (I like my screen time out at 2 min. do I need it NO 1 min is fine). When done with the settings move to the apps. load the flat ROM no apps and run for a hour and track your battery life. then add the apps 1 at a time or in small groups and let run an hour and track. there are was if find what apps are using the CPU or Battery but many do this normally and yet don't effect the battery much. Only way i have found is old school add them one at a time. When you find a bad one decide if you need it or can find a replacement.

I am done with Sense as Launcher Pro Plus is awesome and now with the only Widget I was missing (Calendar). Once I done going through my app list I will create a new thread in General to list the bad application I found unless someone else has or does before I done that is.
[EVO 4G General] zackhow:
From what I have gathered from using .3 that apps auto sync/update on their own now with "always on mobile data" turned off. if you use advanced task killer, do a kill of all apps then turn the screen off. If you wait for a few minutes and turn the screen back on you will notice that apps like news, messages, Twitter, Facebook clock, weather and others will be active. From what I gather the decrease in battery life is from apps like those will send/receive data on 2.2 while on 2.1 apps would not update/sync until you manually refreshed or opened the app, as long as you didn't have "always on mobile data" enabled.

Edit: this reason is why I uninstalled fring. Just too bad I cannot uninstalled qik.