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[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bemymonkey:
Hello everyone :)

I've been using Android for the better part of a year now, and to tell the truth, I'm both a bit disappointed by the supposedly open system, as well as scared by what the future might hold for Android.

On the one hand, we have the disturbing trend started by Motorola with the Milestone: Signed/encrypted bootloaders. As a former Milestone owner (from January to July), I can safely say that encrypted bootloaders are horrible, crappy things. They not only limit what you can use your hardware for, but lock you into your manufacturer's/carrier's firmware, which is more often than not riddled with bugs.

Case in point, the Milestone had quite a few bugs which were difficult for the community to fix because they couldn't simply build a custom ROM where the bugs had been fixed all together, but rather had to be fixed individually, for instance with scripts run via ADB Recovery.

On the other hand, we have companies like HTC, which have a mixed track record with openness. They produced phones like the ADP1 (Dream) and Nexus One, which were specifically developer phones, but lately their devices seem to be getting harder and harder to crack. On one of their latest models, the Desire, we don't even have full root (r/w access to /system/ at runtime) yet, and may never have it. Apps like AdFree, which need R/W access to the system partitions, have trouble working properly and require workarounds.

Even the iPhone seems to be getting harder to jailbreak - according to a fellow Slashdot commenter, iPhone hasn't been jailbroken at the boot-level for quite some time, with only "userland-jailbreaks" having succeeded.

What do you think? Will this trend of even companies like HTC making their handsets harder and harder to crack continue, until one day (maybe in a few years from now) we're left with nothing but unrootable, unhackable phones and an empty xda-developers forum? What if HTC starts encrypting their bootloaders too? Samsung, Acer... not many Android phone manufacturers left.

How can we stem the "lockdown-tide"? How can we tell the companies that we, the users, don't want to be locked out of our systems?

I'm sure Android users who've been on-the-scene since the beginning will have a much better idea of where this is all headed... I'd love to hear what the knowledgeable old Android-hackers have to say about this. :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] graphic914:
This app sounds great, only problem it doesn't show up on the market. does anyone have the apk so I cam give it a try.
[Desire General] quuhuu:
hi there,

i've got a little problem with the date format in android since the update.

in several apps (agenda widget, astrid tasks) the date is not shown as in android's preferences anymore: instead of "Mon, 31 Dec 2010", it shows something like "2, 2010 12 31" where the first 2 is supposed to mean monday.

i would blame the app for it, but since it appears in 2 apps and before the update everything was fine, i wonder why it shows this now.

i've got a little suspicion: before the update i installed the wwe rom version to unbrand my phone (t-mobile germany), maybe it's because of that? no chance to change the rom now (maybe to the europe edition of the rom), as the bootloader doesn't let me install any other rom, it seems.

anyone else with this problem? any ideas? it's not the biggest problem in the world, but every day it annoys me more and more... :-(

thanks!
[Desire General] peterbonge:
I've also noticed this with the following apps:

Deluxe Moon

wetter.info

Since not all apps have this problem I would say it is a problem of the app and not of the ROM or Froyo itself.

And we are not alone:

http://getsatisfaction.com/todoroo/topics/day_name_replaced_by_day_number_after_upgrade_to_froyo
[Desire General] peterbonge:
I've just noticed that it seems to be a language problem. After switching from German to English (UK) and restarting the device it seems to be fixed...
[Desire General] Noctyss:
I have the same problem but i'm french. I made the manip but it did not work. when the phone is in english it works but when I will return to French it does not work anymore even by rebooting the phone.
[Desire General] ptesta:
Some here,

after updating my HTC Desire with the official distribution of Android 2.2 by HTC.

with the italian setting language.

:mad:
[Desire General] gertin:
I have the same problem and I think it affects all apps. They may appear to be fine in some apps though until you do something that causes them to be redrawn/updated.

I've noticed it in the following apps: Springpad and Shazam. This problem didn't occur until I upgraded to 2.2.

It happens with my native language (Norwegian) as well as Swedish and Danish. Setting it to English seems to resolve it for now.

Sent an email to HTC support a few minutes ago explaining the problem.
[Desire General] gobak:
Same here, Czech language. Every 3rd party software was affected. But for example Jorte got updated and it is again showing correct day name instead of its number.
[Desire General] gertin:
Received a response from HTC today. They claim that it's a problem with the app itself, and that it's up to the app developers to fix it so that it works properly on 2.2.
[Desire General] aaargh777:
I'm sure its not an application issue, every app that uses SimpleDateFormat for formatting dates is broken, in an froyo emulator all is fine, on the desire it only works if English language is selected.
[Desire General] peterbonge:
And what is with Froyo on the Nexus One. I've never heard from a date problem from the N1 people.

Does anybody here have access to a N1 with Froyo and can test it?
[Android Software Development] LeRiton:
Hello there,

I try to pair two devices using an SSP bluetooth connection.

The first one is a non-android that only support bluetooth connection in security mode 3 (link level enforced security), the second one is an Android 1.5 based device, but version is irrelevant here (I can upgrade or simply change for another Android device).

Pairing just doesn't work. Some guy told me that Android only support security levels 1 and 2, but I can't find the information anywhere.

Does anyone knows about that? I try to find it by myself because I wan't to check if newer releases fix that, or maybe plan to later.

Thank you in advance.
[Android Software Development] LeRiton:
Wrong forum? Maybe "Android Software and Hacking General"?
[Android Software Development] LeRiton:
Up? If an admin goes there, can you move this thread to another forum (if you think I'll have more answers)?
[EVO 4G General] zackhow:
Anyone else notice the web browser on the leaked 2.2 Rom being sluggish when there are flash ads on the page?
[EVO 4G General] Bielinsk:
Ya think

Flash does take a TON of resources. Its going to be sluggish. Same as your computer if you go to a high flash site...
[EVO 4G General] davebu:
turn flash off it it bothers you then
[EVO 4G General] zackhow:
How do you disable flash then?
[EVO 4G General] EliWay:
He's got a valid point. Flash 10.1 on Damagecontrol (eclair version) was very smooth. On 2.2 , flash flickers when you stop panning around and scrolling sometimes just downright refuses to work. My guess is that this leaked version includes an outdated version of flash... I sure hope so.
[EVO 4G General] masbirdies:
When I first flashed...

the OBNR (Official but not really) 2.2, mine was hanging. Because of a couple of other quirks, I ended up reflashing and got much better results. Now, mine flies! Pretty happy over all.
[EVO 4G General] Aridon:
use ad free or set it to on demand.
[EVO 4G General] superlinkx:
Basically, this is either because of the browser in this version isn't really built well enough for full flash, or because this is a pre-beta of Flash 10.1 on Android. To turn off Flash, go into the browser settings (menu>more>settings) and then go to Enable Plugins and set to either "On demand or off". I leave mine on On Demand. Then, I don't have to turn it on when I want to use it. You just tap on the block where your flash content should be to turn it on. Really the best of both worlds. Also makes a great flash ad block without completely turning off flash.
[EVO 4G General] zackhow:
Thanks for the info. Also another thing to point out, I notice that the talk to text button on the keyboard was changed to a language button for English/spanish. Anyone know how to get that button back?
[EVO 4G General] superlinkx:
There's a thread around here somewhere talking about that. Only a handful of people are having that problem. The only thing I can think of is to try a factory reset.
[EVO 4G General] zackhow:
if I were to do a factory reset would I have 2.2 as my recovery image?
[Desire General] xodeus:
Hi there.

I would like to know which official based 2.2 ROM you are using. There are so many to choose from with many different options. So it would be nice to map all those users.

Here are the choices.

01. Official 2.2, with: busybox, old A2SD+, OpenVPN (TUN), EXT4 support, 802.11N by ieftm

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=741663

02. RoufianosV2.6 Official 2.2 Rooted|+fps|A2SD|EXT4| SUPERB [2/aug/10] by tron13

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=742075

03. Pinky Desire 0.2 | Official FROYO SENSE | DEODEX & ZIP | ADBLOCK | A2SD+ by pinkolin

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=741867

04. ۵.NexTSense v2.0a Official Sense-FroYo 2.2 ·(720p | 2.09 |AP2SD+) by NeoPhyTe.x360

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=742371

05. Froyo DeLite r0.2 - Official 2.2 WWE Sense by Klutsch

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=741661

06. Rooted Official HTC Android 2.2 (FroYo) ROM by nickerberli

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=741775

07. Official HTC Android 2.2, rooted + extras, mary jane 420 by danne_jo

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=741923

08. Official 2.2 - rooted,busybox,old a2sd+ and much more! by theis82

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=742574

09. LP2.2 Based on official Upgrade.Deodexed/zip aligned/apps2sd+ by infido

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=741806

10. Official HTC Froyo (with Sense), some apps removed by SanderX

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=741755

11. Official Froyo HTC Sense ROM (16/07 v1.0c | OpenDesire Team) HTC 2.06 base by AdamG

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=726300

12. Pays-ROM Desire Froyo Sense v1.3 A2SD+ with Addon Packages HTC 2.06 base by PaY87

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=729172

So cast your vote. I'll update the thread and poll with new ROMs when they arrive.
[Desire General] GANJDROID:
I'm using Pinky. No problems and I can install the notes widget onto it. Plus, I've heard the blue led works with it :D
[Desire General] dmpwd:
OP, you're missing neophyte rom v1.4 (2.06 based)
[Desire General] kien:
Still using Pays v1.1, eagarly waiting for the official OTA 2.2 update.
[Desire General] xodeus:
Yes I realized that. Now I'm looking for an option on how to edit the poll... :eek:
[Desire General] MaTiCeK-:
Using ROM by ieftm, eagerly awaiting a sense rom with stock dailer and contacts.
[Desire General] SneakShadow:
I really like nickerberli's ROM. It's just like stock, but with root and busybox. Perfect! I like to add modifications myself, so I think this is the best and cleanest ROM out there.

Great work! :)
[Desire General] Danifamous:
It looks like most of those are just rooted.

Some missing system apps, but they are pretty much all identical.

Pretty pointless
[Desire General] marinierb:
Which makes me wonder how some can have more bugs or perform better than others.
[Desire General] Hyonic:
Official 2.2, with: busybox, old A2SD+, OpenVPN (TUN), EXT4 support, 802.11N by ieftm.

For now :o
[Desire General] Savaron:
I'm wait for LeeDrOiD Mod 1.7 ;)
[Desire General] Nitrius:
Using the 2.2 based ROM from @nickerberli atm, seems to be working fine so far.
[Desire General] sbdags:
I'm still on Neophyte 1.4a which is vastly different to his other rom. You need to add this to the poll
[Desire General] xodeus:
I really would like to do it fast. But editing polls only goes through admins. So I'm going to cantact them and let them do that. :P
[Desire General] dmpwd:
+1

10char
[Desire General] inkredi:
It's impossible to vote, they are just SOOO Many!!
[Desire General] Danifamous:
Well, surely if they make one unbranded, clean rom, having all developers contribute to it creating a community rom.

This would be easier for me to find a standard rooted 2.2 without bloatware. Especially at such an early stage of releasing 2.2 sense where all the roms are near enough the same. Cant wait for the MCR kitchen tbh, so all this rant is mainly out of frustration.

But a community kitchen, where u can select different features of different roms would be nice, such as the brilliant cyanogen features of the non sense froyo ontop of something like defrost, which just...works (amazing well) ;)
[Desire General] cgorki:
The title contains the word "official" so there should be only ROMs released after 01.08.2010 and based on 2.09 in the list.

2.06 was not "official" as far as I know.

If I am wrong, then why is LeeDroid not on that list?

It's my favourite and according to this poll one of the most popular.
[Desire General] lit2k:
trying ... NexTSense_2.0a_Official_OTA_2.2_FRF91_by_NeoPhyTe_without_radio.zip

tried ...DanneJo_rom_v1-Orginal_HTC_2.2_Sense.zip
[Desire General] volapyk:
I use #1 atm and it's great. I will most likely go back to the great neophyte once there's an 2.2 official (2.09) version out.
[Desire General] sckc23:
hey guys i juz got back from a trip and was surprised to see the official rom from htc is out already. have been using adam's 2.2 rom based on 2.06 and i'm wondering whats the difference between that and 2.09?

Thanks.
[Desire General] Gitarrenschlumpf:
LeeDroid 1.7 Please add it to the list.
[Desire General] Murd0ck:
+1

Voting on LeeDroid

Thats what i run.. fast good battery and what you need of ekstras.
[Desire General] :
How do you modify it yourself? I'd like to learn how to, too. :D
[Desire General] ryanrich:
+1 for LeeDrOiD v1.7, great ROM.
[Desire General] hensk:
I1`,on LeeDroid 1.6 still,but Lee is not listed:mad::confused:
[Desire General] Beppemi:
+1 u have to insert it
[Desire General] JuanitoDog:
¿LeeDroid 1.7b?, Thats ''The Rom''
[Desire General] volapyk:
Tried most of the new roms and imo the two best ones are NEXTSENSE and PINKY 0.4. Both are great and very stable. PINKY for its pure and clean sense experience and NEXTSENSE for the beautiful UI mods by neophyte.

I don't like ROMs that install market apk's like file managers and stuff by default. Keep it clean and offering apk and mods as add-ons is the way to go.
[Desire General] casca:
Official 2.2, with: busybox, old A2SD+, OpenVPN (TUN), EXT4 support, 802.11N by ieftm

working perfectly here
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RichTJ99:
Hi,

i have Exchange setup & working. I get a notification each time I reboot the phone it says update security settings. If I click on it, it goes away & doeesnt bring any other information together.

Any ideas on what it wants? Its not terribly annoying but its strange.

Thanks,

Rich
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] toddasimpson67:
I don't have an answer, but I do have a question??? Do you still need to enter a password every time you "un-lock" the phone??? I am currently running 2.1 but use LockPicker to get around this.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RichTJ99:
Hi,

I dont have to enter any codes into my phone. I have exchange set up twice on my phone.

The first time I set it up with the default app so my contacts will be populated & then I set it not to check my exchange again.

Then I use Touchdown for my exchange needs. It works great & I would assume it would bypass that issue. I like Touchdown better as it downloads subfolders (once selected) by default, so the email is always in sync.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] toddasimpson67:
Thx...I have Touchdown and will try that once 2.2 goes OTA.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] superlinkx:
That's caused by a setting on your Exchange server from what I've heard. Basically its an enterprise level security feature. Without hacking it, like you have been doing, its not going to change in the software update. If anything, Google will make it harder to get around it, since they are trying to get enterprises to adopt Android, so they need to keep these kinds of settings around.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ifly4vamerica:
Lockpicker does not work with 2.2, you will have to enter a code but you can adjust the time for that code entry to up to 15 minutes, if you use Touchdown you will have to enter the code everytime you go into the touchdown app. its not to bad entering the code every 15 minutes, the screen for the code entry is huge with a big dialer, not so much of a pain as entering the code before.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RichTJ99:
Hi,

I am using exchange 2007 & Touchdown. I dont have to ever put a code in. Is this due to my exchange being a hosted exchange service vs a work corp email?

Thanks,

Rich
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DraginMagik:
it's a setting on the Exchange server. it just depends if the Exchange nerd was told to implement it or not.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jason_V:
I found this while searching to find a fix. I think that I figured it out though.

This is referring to the security settings for your phone and I believe that the Exchange server is set to require a password be entered on the phone to satisfy it's security requirements.

I turned on the pattern lock on my phone and haven't received the message again... Yet.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] acolwill:
There's also an issue that I know of with Exchange Server 2010

If this setting has been enabled by the sysadmin;

Via EMC:

Microsoft Exchange

- Microsoft Exchange On-Premises

- Organization Configuration

- Client Access

- Exchange ActiveSync Mailbox Policies

Under Default policy, Device Password Required - Yes

Then your Exchange client on Froyo will bounce around asking you to press it's buttons every boot, and sometimes every time your network status changes!

EVEN IF this setting is reverted, there appears to be a bug where the security settings are still passed to the client device.

I've tested this myself and Ninpo [Hacre@XDA] can verify.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jeremiah239:
Ok I have a problem I think my screen is separating on the right side just under the volume rocker I can't see any gap but when I touch on that side I can feel and hear a little clicking I'm just concerned it will get worse or dust will get under my screen. Do you think its worth trying to get a replacement I have no light leakage and other then this clicking thing my phone is perfect.

Edit: My 30 day return period is up the 12th BTW.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrono:
defect is a defect, replace it no matter what. You just paid $xxx for this phone, it should be perfect.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jeremiah239:
Ok will do I'm just having a hard time finding one.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrono:
same here, month and a half and BB still hasn't called me back
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SilverZero:
That seems to be the problem right now - finding replacement stock. I could probably make a case on mine with maybe a bad speaker, maybe light leakage, maybe dust under the screen, but all three problems are invisible to me unless I'm searching for them. But maybe in a couple of months there will be a new hardware revision or something, and I can trade in then under warranty. Sort of my ace in the hole. :)
[General Topics] orb3000:
Source
[About XDA developers] xodeus:
Hi there. I would like to know if it's possible to edit a poll that I created.

I can't find it anywhere...
[About XDA developers] orb3000:
Only an Admin can do that.

Contact svetius or Mike
[About XDA developers] DaveShaw:
Mods can Close Polls, Edit the vote count, edit the Options text, or add options.

We cannot "reset" them though, so if someone has voted, they cannot vote again, not matter what the options are changed to.

So if you need one reseting, contact and admin as orb said.

If you just need amendments then any mod (including me ;)) can help.

Dave
[About XDA developers] Ruben Craveiro:
Its not a major mistake but would be nice to be corrected poll is here: https://xdaforums.com/elephone-p9000/themes/logo-bin-logos-cyanogenmod-t3530563

I wrote "they're are good" i want to change to "they're good". Thanks.
[About XDA developers] sd_shadow:
use the report post button or pm a mod in that section
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ump:
Can anyone confirm that the Vibrant indeed does or does not have Gorilla Glass by Corning?

I am getting conflicting information.

Thanks

Jesse

BTW: If it does indeed have it is there really a need for a screen protector?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shane_pcs:
I had lunch with a samsung rep who claimed it did. I tried to confirm via the internets but all I found was rumors.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] temperbad:
Not sure but always use a screen protector. ..
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ump:
That's what I was thinking....

Have one you recommend?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] masterotaku:
Corning put out a press release last year stating that they'd picked up Samsung as a customer for Gorilla Glass® for their touch screen phones. All the Galaxy S series phones have Gorilla Glass®. Even the craptastic Behold II had it. The story is the same for basically all Motorola phones too, though I'm not sure about HTC (at least I've not seen anything official).

Corning Supplies Samsung Electronics with Gorilla™ Glass for Touch Screen Mobile Phones

Granted if you look at Corning's device list the Galaxy S series phones are not listed, but you can also notice the list itself is obviously fairly old.

Corning has the contract for Samsung, this much we know.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] s15274n:
After watching some of the videos on youtube, I am not too worried. However, some on here have stated they received minor scratches, but none of those posts indicated WHAT they did to their phone that would cause a scratch.... the videos on youtube could make you cry though and only the box cutter caused scratches from what I could tell.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonathan75:
http://www.corning.com/gorillaglass/devices.aspx

Is Gorilla Glass in my device?

Samsung

GT-S5600 Preston, i8910 Omnia HD, S3650 Corby, T939 Behold II

Handheld

LG

GC900 ViewtySmart, GD900 Crystal, GD910 Watch Phone, BL40 New Chocolate, LU2300 Optimus Q, VS740 Ally

Meizu

M8

Motorola

Droid, Devour, QA4 Evoke, DEXT, Cliq, CliqXT, Stature i9, Backflip, Milestone, i1, xt720, xt800, Charm, Quench

NEC

docomo PRIME series™ N-02B

Sonim

XP2.10 Spirit, XP3.2 Quest Pro, XP3 Sentinel

SK Telesys

WII

PC

LG

X300

Motion Computing

F5v Slate PC, C5v Slate PC, J3500 Tablet PC
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bellrb19:
You should check out a thread in the Vibrant accessories thread on XDA, multiple pages about screen protectors. I just installed my invisibleshield and after trying it out will put an update in that thread. Some people say the invisibleshield makes swyping hard. The others recommended are Clearfreak and Reallook, although the latter seems to be what people are swaying towards now.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] temperbad:
I also use zagg. Works great for me, but I've been a zagg fan for a while. Isn't hard to swype for ne.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] s15274n:
^^^ is that list outdated or something? I would assume ours, and the droid X have gorilla.

^ Zagg is a personal preference... I for one ripped it off my phone is disgust, felt way way too rubbery (hard to swype)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jdom58:
I'm waiting on the Reallook to arrive and can post results, the T-Mobile one was not good at all with the matte finish.