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[EVO 4G Android Development] tatnai:
got tired of waiting for an update and had some non-rom related problems to iron out, so flashed fresh 3.1.0.2 with netarchy's 4.1.9.1 cfs for it. may be just me, but running launcher pro on fresh seems just a touch laggy; don't know if it is due to the rom or something else. o/w great alternative rom. will try netarchy's rom next.

i think this rom is solid, no need to switch. others don't offer anything else at this point - you can upgrade the sprint apps by following directions posted in threads, and the new google apps as well. yeah, update with those and updated dc config would be nice, but honestly, still haven't found anything that beats this rom; others are close or as good, but nothing beats it. IMHO of course :D.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mlin:
Still running superb for me. I think I'll stick with this til the next big thing comes along, whatever that is. Thanks for the great ROM fellas!
[EVO 4G Android Development] kratos313:
This is the best rom out right now no need to change anything at all once you ban sense and run a different launcher like launcher pro it's perfect and that's saying alot.

I will say it THE BEST DEV TEAM EVER

Sent from the evo collective via cybernetic implants
[EVO 4G Android Development] makskylan:
I was on Fresh's web site and I see he is putting together a new update. There is a new OTA update coming out from Sprint. It is available for donors now for testing. Is there any chance that DC is coming out with a new update also? I just thought I'd throw this out there and maybe we would receive a response.....
[EVO 4G Android Development] campiosa:
It would be nice if you guys appreciated good code when you see it. This isn't the auto industry, we don't need a new model every week. If you do then you're a tool.

Yea there is a certain motivation for any dev to get a name for themselves and go down in history as the awesome dev for blabla model, and a lot of them put out updates every week to try and keep people on their ROM and do that. Newer must be better, right? And those updates probably do make improvements in the other ROMs, fixing the bugs that shouldn't have been there to begin with. DC has been rock solid from day one and doesn't have any major bugs or need weekly updates to be better than the others, so go whine about it somewhere else. I'm tired of reading about you tools who want an update just because higher version numbers must be better.

On a side note it would be nice to get one more update for the small stuff like dcconfig's useless options being removed, but that's seriously cosmetic and not necessary.
[EVO 4G Android Development] smw6180:
This rom is stable I'll admit. But it does have problems. Quite side from the fact that some of the system level apps are old and outdated, there are framework issues which prevent proper theming of the rom. There are newer kernel tweaks that improve battery life as well as performance. If you're happy with the rom as it is, more power to you. But some people like to have upgrade which incorporate new fixes and features. While a lot of things are able to be manually updated (which I personally do) a lot of people aren't comfortable making those changes and like to have updates for them. I don't think it's fair to call someone a tool for asking about updates to a rom, especially when the devs haven't been making themselves available to bugfix or answer questions. And before you talk about how it's free and they do it in their own time, etc., stop and think about how many people have donated.
[EVO 4G Android Development] imex99:
Anyone else running DC and have trouble with live email? I have one hotmail and one live account and I get an error when sending email through live. Not sure if it has anything to do with the ROM or just an error with hotmail and live together......
[EVO 4G Android Development] sf103100:
i have a problem with yahoo email
[EVO 4G Android Development] mytich:
I'd love to install DC over ROM Manager, but...

It looks like DC's rom_manager_manifest.js is broken and Rom Manager chokes on trailing comas, e.g. ,} or ,]. Could you fix it, please? Danno how to use local manifestos in RM. Thanks alot.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dglowe343:
You have a point about the theming issues. The outdated system apps and kernels are not an issue. You can find any of the newer apps by searching, then remove the old ones with Root Explorer or ADB and install the new ones. As for the kernels, simply download and flash. There are enough to choose from. Besides, DC has always used the stock kernel anyways. You don't need a rom update to have the features you described.
[EVO 4G Android Development] smw6180:
As I said that some people aren't comfortable doing that with system level apps. I find no issues with people that get their system upgrades by upgrading roms. Anything in /data is Market upgrade-able; I'm talking about /system stuff. Which requires a remount, (or mount r/w depending on terminology) then uninstall/reinstall. Some things won't install properly even then (not sure if people on DC are having problems with the the Sprint VVM upgrade (for example) or not, I haven't been using it lately.

True on the stock kernel. My bad, I forgot they don't use them. Netarchy always compiles a DC kernel when he does updates.

But the bottom line is people aren't 'tools' for wanting bug fixes, or at least a notification of what, if any, development is going on. And if those people are donators (as I myself am, from way back) then they actually have a right to know what's going on....the point of the donations was to further the development efforts of the developers. If those developers aren't going to develop anymore that's fine, but they should explain it to the people that gave them money in the good faith that they would.

I don't personally care either way. Playing devil's advocate here honestly.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mytich:
Guess it's too late. Sad.
[EVO 4G Android Development] chonomey:
I have errors with emails...

I have errors too, specially with msn and yahoo. I've tried re-installing several times DC 3.5 but still, same issue. Unless we put the settings manually it will work sometimes, but I do think is the rom itself so no updates or upgrades by the rom's maker? I guess not! It's alright thou, other then that, it's stable. :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] :
I read earlier that he recently got married I would figure that would be reason enough for your priorities to change.

Sent with Supersonic speed
[EVO 4G Android Development] driguez:
I loled. Contradiction much?
[EVO 4G Android Development] SouL Shadow:
Might as well add my cent and a quarter to this nonsense...

Obviously the devs are focused on other things right now. After the mad dash to froyo, I too would need to get away for a bit. It's a hobby, not a job. There are no bosses or deadlines here. They left us with a stable, mostly bugless rom. If they're not totally disgusted with the people here, then hopefully we'll see them again soon enough.

Until then, let's all take this time to do our own tinkering. Mess around, break stuff, nandroid back. But PLEASE stop the useless whining "oh it's dead, I'm switching to blah blah whatever". Announcing to the world that you're switching roms is both pointless and childish. This in no way helps development, bug reporting/fixing, or the community as a whole.

I'd love an update just as much as anyone else. But until then, I'm just thankful for all the different dev's hard work taking a big company's product, improving upon it, and freely sharing their results with everyone.

Sorry for the rant.

-SLS-
[EVO 4G Android Development] wings9130:
If the rom does get an update i'd like to see a "roam only" toggle as this is in a couple of other roms and is a great feature. Any chances of damage getting this?
[EVO 4G Android Development] frozndevl:
Which system apps are you referring to? I ask because I am curious if I should look to find a way to update them on my phone since I like DC and have had no issues.
[EVO 4G Android Development] scottndville:
Shouldn't that be L'ed ol? Just saying. :P
[EVO 4G Android Development] dglowe343:
Voicemail, sprint tv and sprint football have all been updated. As for any others I'm not sure.
[EVO 4G Android Development] smw6180:
Voicemail and SprintTV were the 2 main ones I was talking about. I don't even use SprintTV, but...*shrug* I was just making a point.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jkcpsal:
which roms have roam only just curious cause I didnt realize any had it
[EVO 4G Android Development] T3hPWN:
I just want to thank the developers of this ROM although there are very small bugs its great non the less. Everyone must remember the devs are here because they want to be here they have no responsibility to anyone they do this cause they like it and when they are ready I'm sure they will respond to your questions cmon guys give a brother a break if something bothers you enough change it yourself or learn don't just cry about it in a forum.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aman1127:
Forgot about the new gmail and the new Google voice
[EVO 4G Android Development] wings9130:
CyanogenMod6 has a roam only toggle. Huge feature.
[EVO 4G Android Development] DaWhip:
there is a new app called roam control that works exactly like the CM6 roam toggle as far as I can tell. it $4 in the market, a little steep, but it works.
[EVO 4G Android Development] wings9130:
So you have it installed and it works just fine right? Just want to make sure before i consider buying it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] coolwhip1220:
I am so tired of all this bull****. Look, as a developer who put out a ROM, you at least owe it to the people following you or who donated to log in and write a simple post every now and then. Yeah life gets in the way of development, I get that, but for christ's sake there's an f'n app for XDA for android, the system that your developing for, so drop a f'n line like "Hey, busy with real world ****." It IS TOTAL CRAP to say "oh they made this what's wrong with it?" What's wrong with it is they set up a google page for problems people are having and don't respond to it. Things like that put people in a sour mood. I for one feel like a rom should be updated to the newest and greatest as often as possible. But for both of these guys to just disappear is bull****.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bmxrider4444:
Regardless of how you feel, they have a record of leaving for a bit then launching something pretty awesome, and nobody said they had to do or say anything after they made the ROM, if you don't like it don't use it, simple as that, so please take your fussing and cursing elsewhere.
[EVO 4G Android Development] shawnathan9:
On the other hand... the good news is that I JUST SAVED A BUNCH OF MONEY BY SWITCHING MY CAR INSURANCE TO GEICO!!!:D:D:D
[EVO 4G Android Development] DaWhip:
Yah, I used it and it works fine. I am on CM6 now and I get the same results with the CM6 switch as the Roam Control switch. And if it doesn't work for you, you can just get your refund
[EVO 4G Android Development] nYdGeo:
QUOTE=aman1127;7962748]Forgot about the new gmail and the new Google voice[/QUOTE]

Some of these appear to be fairly painless.

I don't have the Sprint NFL or Sprint Nascar apps installed so I cannot offer any assistance with those.

In my current DC-3.5/KingxKernel BFS#8 ROM environment, I launched Sprint TV, which I do use now and then, and it told me that there was an update; so I downloaded it and installed it. Didn't cause any fuss, haven't lost root, etc.

I launched the Sprint Visual Voice Mail, clicked on the Menu button, Settings, and near the bottom saw the 'check for an update' button, clicked that and just updated it.

So far as all of the Google Apps, when the most recent Google Apps package was released (around 8/15? 8/17?) I downloaded it from a link in one of the threads here on xda and flashed it. Beyond that I get the lesser updates through the market.

The Kingx or Netarchy kernels obviously help make things run faster while extending battery time, which is great. They can be the simplest large-scope improvement available. But even without that help, all in all I have found the DC-3.5 to be a fine Sense-based ROM. I've been very fortunate, and have experienced no issues to speak of.

I go back and forth between this ROM configuration and a CM6.0/Snap8.2Kernel ROM depending on my mood, and thoroughly enjoy both flavors. I rooted my phone so that I could enjoy this kind of diversity, and I hope that we all continue to be able to do so for many years to come.

Thank you for your time.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mhmobile:
Haven't figured this out yet. mail gets sent to the sd card each day even when I have the settings at their highest (most in inbox). Only does this with the HTC widget, K9 retains mail until I delete.

Any help would be appreciated...
[EVO 4G Android Development] driguez:
They also have a record of stopping development for a particular ROM (Hero) for good, and their last couple of releases, from what everyone says and according to my wife's Hero are buggy. If they come back and release an update I'll consider coming back til then I'm doing fine w virus ROM. I'll be honest the whole donation and disappearing act left me w a sour taste. Damage got married and that's understandable, I'm surprised w TrevE though, he was pretty active and seemed pretty much in charge of the ROM himself. I saw damage online on gtalk the other day and asked him if there were plans on releasing an update but I nvr got a response, oh well.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dglowe343:
+1 to that. They have no obligation to be here or to inform us of anything. They do this voluntarily and for free. No one was forced to donate anything either.
[EVO 4G Android Development] pdwhoward:
No Facebook Updates in 'People'

I'm having an annoying issue that I cannot fix and have not seen addressed elsewhere. I have HTC for FB installed and setup. When I press the 'People' icon on my home sceen, I see a list of my contacts. Under each contact's name, their current FB status is displayed (given that contact is linked to a FB account). However, when I select a contact and scroll over to the 'Updates and Events' tab (by sliding over to the green arrows icon), my phone always says there are no updates for my contacts (this happens even if a contact has a status under their name!). So I know the HTC is downloading my friend's updates, but for some reason it only display the updates on the main screen of 'People', but it will not display the updates on the 'Updates and Events' screen. Can someone please help me fix this? I like using this feature because it makes it easy to read updates of only contacts that I want to see. Thanks in advance.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kevinniven:
great rom but...

Great rom but if its not being supported its time to move on. I found a great new rom you should check it out. XxXViRuSXxX
[EVO 4G Android Development] Testrunner:
I keep hearing good things about that virus rom. What is it that you like about it?

I recently switched from DC to Fresh and have no regrets. Super stable, amazing battery life, built in updater, wireless tether already set up and amazing support from the developer. That's my take on fresh.

Someone tell me about the perks of the virus rom please.
[EVO 4G Android Development] SouL Shadow:
Has anyone noticed with 3.5 and the stock kernel that battery life is horrible with WiFi turned on? With WiFi on I'll go through a full charge in 15 hours with almost zero usage, but with WiFi off I'll get about a day and a half with moderate usage!

Anyone else seen this? Is it different/better with any custom kernels?

-SLS-
[EVO 4G Android Development] driguez:
Virus its based on DC.
[EVO 4G Android Development] driguez:
I dnt have that problem w kings kernels, CFS VS BFS, before u ask, gotta give them a try to see what works best for you. I'm still running CFS 7.
[EVO 4G Android Development] wings9130:
I really like the music player that is in damage as opposed to the stock one. I wanted to know if i can install it on a stock rom or another rom. Please help me on this.
[EVO 4G Android Development] tsipa:
I think its the aosp music player... just do a Google search for the apk. I perferred the aosp gallery app and did the same thing.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Beejis:
Try finding the apk in the .zip on system/apps and pulling it out.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Renegadez:
I have been out of the country for awhile with no internet access. Anyway I loaded DamageControl v3.5 rite b4 I left has there been any new updates or anything I did not see anything on page 1 when I looked Thanks Renz
[EVO 4G Android Development] surrealmethod:
Nothing new
[EVO 4G Android Development] wings9130:
Got it. Thanks!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Renegadez:
Wow this roms been out awhile with no updates but maybe it doesnt need any seems to be running fine ill put it to a harder test now that im back.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kratos313:
i don't think it does the only problem i've had is when trying to install a theme ontop of the rom i get the gallery FC and the phone dialer will not launch.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Renegadez:
Wow this is the slowest I have ever seen the DC thread moving.....
[EVO 4G Android Development] biscodude:
This question was asked earlier in the thread and I didn't find an answer. I'm having the same problem:

HTC wallpaper is empty. But when i browse to system/customize/resources, all the wallpapers are there.. is there a fix for this?
[EVO 4G Android Development] nYdGeo:
You are absolutely correct about it being all about what works best for an individual and their phone. There's a good bit of technical data out there about the two types, but I very much like to take it a step further.

Though I did skip here and there, I've tried several of both the CFS and BFS kernels. I believe I tested both CFS & BFS #5, CFS #6, BFS #7, BFS & CFS #8, and currently using BFS #9.

I've never really observed any marked difference between the two though I'm sure that it is there. Since you've settled on CFS #7, would you mind sharing some of your observations that led you to this kernel? Was it more a performance/behavioral thing, or more power usage, etc?

If you and/or anyone else would share some objective, comparitive observations regarding the two types of kernels, benefits, pros'n'cons, etc, that would be awesome.

Thank you for your time.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Karl:
Is app2sd in this rom?
[EVO 4G Android Development] imthekiller:
i dont recommend this rom
[EVO 4G Android Development] frozndevl:
I've been on 3.5 for a while now, no real complaints until recently. I haven't flashed any new kernels or anything. The problem is that when I reboot, sometimes it will boot on its own after I make it to the HTC Lockscreen. After that reboot, it functions just fine. I have also been noticing that some of my settings seem to disappear, for example my history in Juiceplotter. I can't tell if I've got a bad root going on, something is getting more and more whacked out, or what. If anyone could offer some insight, I'd appreciate it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] rgosborne:
Sometimes weird problems like that will clear up if you wipe your cache and Dalvik cache. Worth a try, anyway.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Renegadez:
Why I have been running it for a few weeks its really stable no issues or any real complaints with only 20 posts under your belt I think its abit rude to bash this rom DC and Treve busted their asses on this!
[EVO 4G Android Development] jkinnison90:
Probably because there hasn't been any support for this ROM, or any contact from the devs.
[EVO 4G Android Development] SouL Shadow:
I too have been using this Rom for a while with almost no problems. Only new issue I have us some how launcher pro no longer shows up in the market under downloads but if I search and pull it up it shows it's installed. Dunno if it's dc or market or lp but it's not enough to bother me, yet.

Hopefully when the next ota is official we'll see some life return here. Until then, this Rom has been a great daily driver.

Edit:

After updating 4 apps from the market last night, including lp, it's back in the downloads list, but now a different app is musing from the list (Google's shopper). Weird.

-SLS-
[EVO 4G Android Development] gottria:
So where is DC and the boy wonder. Just checked in to see how this rom was doing and nothing...
[EVO 4G Android Development] imthekiller:
yeah because my post count is any type of indication that I haven't tested all other roms. :rolleyes:
[EVO 4G Android Development] daktah:
used 3.2.3 since i was able to root and now i use 3.5

WAY better than cyanogen in my opinion
[EVO 4G Android Development] damageless:
AAAAAaannnnd we're back....

First of all, I would like to apologize for not being on much the last few weeks. I had quite the dispute over some things with my now-previous employer and decided to quit, had to find a new job to support my new family, and I'm now working on a new version of DamageControl, as well as some other very cool things that I think everyone will like.

Again, I'm sorry for the long hiatus, I had to get some things sorted out personally before I could focus some attention on ROM things. However, those who are the beta list will receive a link in the next few days through email with a link to a newer, sleeker version of DamageControl.
[EVO 4G Android Development] rjmjr69:
WOW sorry to hear but glad to hear your all set. Thanks for the update and welcome back

Now go get an EPIC cause I got rid of my evo when you's disappeared!!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] boosted98taco:
Welcome Back.. Hope all is well now.. In my opinion, you did right; you always take care of your family an yourself first. Best of luck with the new job!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] TheMike1:
Welcome back :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] 00_MACKIE_00:
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[EVO 4G Android Development] aman1127:
Welcome back! As you read, non of us had any issues since your last release. I can only imagine what is coming up!

Thanks for the hard work!
[EVO 4G Android Development] dglowe343:
Welcome back! Glad to hear all is well and CAN'T wait for the next release!

Sent from my SUPERSONIC
[EVO 4G Android Development] rjmjr69:
HAHAHAHAHAHA. Have you even tried the phone?

It has its pro's and con's I have an evo and two epics LOVE MY EVO but after a few with the epic idk if I"ll use the evo for more than a dev or spare phone
[EVO 4G Android Development] gottria:
Dude, glad to hear your back on track, with your life that is. Good luck on your new job and take care of your bride, the honey moon will be over before you know it :p
[EVO 4G Android Development] Rennat:
I'm glad ur back! Do you think that sometime in the future you are going to include the newer version of HTC Sense announced a few days ago. I know the HTC Desire HD's (the Evo for the rest of the world) ROM was leaked and the work for the Nexus One has already started. I would think that it would be pretty easy port considering the huge similarities with the Desire HD and the Evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] PhantomApollyon:
looking forward to seeing what you have up your sleeve now :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] ceabbott2:
Welcome Back!

Hope all is well glad your back!:D You guys are the sh#t!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] igotsthemagicinme:
Just flashed, coming from cm6.

first impressions...

seems like it truely is all the damaged goods, looks like my ol hero revived :) ill always remember dcV1.0... however, first bootup does not seem nearly as snappy as cyan always did. and cyan really kicked butt after a reboot, enabling JIT... and i see jit doesnt work in this release :'( or not via dconfig? id love clarification

the wimax tool app is showing up in my drawer, and only force closes when i try to open it. the few preloaded apps you did include are all in need of an update, im sure your perfectly aware :-)

k imma reboot now thx
[EVO 4G Android Development] kratos313:
Welcome back