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[EVO 4G Android Development] ausch30:
http://geekfor.me/faq/how-to-use-fresh-updater/

Just flash the rom again and it will be back, or open the rom with 7-zip or something and get the apk from there
[EVO 4G Android Development] Kenjari:
Oh makes sense. Is the camera from the new manufacture better?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Jbcarrera:
same just that it had power cycle issues with qik and programs like it so it had to be tweeked the framework for both is different but so minute that unless you know exactly what was what your could never tell i will say that the new rom does take slightly better pics with older hardware but not significant enough to really justify the battery drain. I guess it cycles the camera power since the chip is different i maybe wrong but its a guess and nothing more
[EVO 4G Android Development] cds36:
Its pretty much a hit and miss with people with hardware 003 I think. I have 002 hardware and I can say that there is a difference in battery life from 3.4.0.1 to 3.3.0.1. Really weird, Who knows
[EVO 4G Android Development] akarol:
People, the problem is the kernel, not the ROM version. If you use 3.4.0.1 with any custom kernel, you're good. All custom kernels are using the 3.29 HTC as a base since the 3.30 HTC's source has not been released.

I'm on 3.4.0.1 with Net's 4.2.1. CFS and I'm fine.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cds36:
I dunno about it being the kernel only. I was on 3.4.0.1 with nets 4.2.1 cfs also, screen off time was great but once I did anything my battery drained fast. Im just telling you my experience.

what hardware version do you have ?

edit never mind 003 i see, there lies the issue
[EVO 4G Android Development] sidezero:
I'm on 003 and experienced the exact same issue as this with 3.4.0.1 and netarchy's kernel.
[EVO 4G Android Development] tomh1979:
i've been using the 3.4.0.1 rom with no battery issue's at all, last just as long and 3.3 did for me, the thing is i stayed with a good kernel, Netarchy's 4.1.9.1 fresh compatible is perfect, most people are having a battery drain cause they are running the newest Netarchy kernel which is 4.2, which so far has been junk with battery drain, while sleeping is fine to little drain, but when you run the phone it just sucks down the battery, but if you flash back to 4.1.9.1 then all would be good, it's not the rom that is causing the bad battery, just a bad kernel.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Marlowr05:
I will have to give this a shot. I had worse battery with 3.4.0.1. I am now back to fresh 3.3 and am having much better battery life. I will upgrade back to 3.4 and get back to you guys with the update as to how its going so far
[EVO 4G Android Development] cemzie:
Running 3.3.0.1 on 003 hardware with stock kernel. Hasn't always happened but I just started getting random reboots while using gps. The phone gets warm but not hot. Any ideas?
[EVO 4G Android Development] akarol:
It is the kernel only. Trust me. What you are experiencing now is the famous placebo effect.
[EVO 4G Android Development] radiohead_freak:
Lol I like how he put even with the new iPhone like if they've ever had anything but pathetic battery life
[EVO 4G Android Development] keaolyen:
So, nobody else here is having this issue with Ford Sync besides Jeff and I?

This is driving me nuts!

I'd greatly appreciate any help resolving this. 2.1 worked great (no connection issues), is there any way to roll the bluetooth stack back to 2.1?
[EVO 4G Android Development] I2izzo:
battery life

I am an 003 and I first tried charging battery to full with phone completely off, reboot into recovery wipe battery stats. That was on 3.4.0.1 and my battery life still wasn't any good. Added in netarchy 2.4 and it kept crashing my rom and rebooting. I then tried going back to 3.3.0.1 to get a better battery life. So far its been about 30-40% better and with juice defender running in the background been fine. try that out.
[EVO 4G Android Development] akarol:
Makes sense since 3.3.0.1 is running with 3.29 kernel as base, and 3.4.0.1 is running with the 3.30 kernel. Now, if you had successfully installed the same custom kernel on both, you wouldn't notice any difference. Thus, my point is confirmed... the kernel is the problem, not the ROM.
[EVO 4G Android Development] I2izzo:
Well, it may be, but if that was the case then why would stock 3.4.0.1 kill my battery with the stock kernel in it? Because when I downgraded back to 3.3.1 i was on the stock kernel that it came with and it is working phenomonal. Netarchy 2.4.1 would overclock and do everything right unless I attempted to overclock via setCPU to 1.267, where it would then freeze lock up reboot everytime I attempted that, Thanks for the response!
[EVO 4G Android Development] tomh1979:
first off, lets clear one thing up, the kernel is not 2.4.1, it's actually 4.2.1, second off, the kernel is still junk, as i stated earlier, try running Flips fresh 3.4 with Netarchy's 4.1.9.1 cfs fresh comp kernel, the battery life is just as it should be, perfect.

Ive ran the fresh 3.4 with Nets 4.2.1, and know first hand how that kernel works, with sleeping the phone was fine, sorta, but when you started to actually use the phone then it sucked down battery like a fat chick on cake. I flashed back to Nets 4.1.9.1 and all is better again with Fresh's 3.4 rom.
[EVO 4G Android Development] robpet2:
im still using the newest rom with the stock kernel w/ siedio cell extended battery and im getting about 30+ hrs .. havent let it die yet to see how long it will take, but thats based off juiceplotter estimate..
[EVO 4G Android Development] randymac88:
Dude, we're a little crossed up here I think.

*3.29 or 3.30 = HTC's ROM base (not a kernel). This is based off of Android 2.2. (EDIT: It's Sprint's Update, not HTC's)

*2.6.32 or 2.6.34 or 2.6.35 = Kernel base

*3.3.0.1 (Flipz release numbers) uses the 3.29 ROM base. 3.29 is a Sprint OTA release version.

*3.4.0.1 is running the 3.30 ROM base.

*Both 3.3 and 3.4 feature the HTC stock kernel, which is based off of the 2.6.32 kernel base.

Keep me honest here, but this is how I understand the landscape. So what you are saying is that it's the ROM version, not the kernel (which I agree with).
[EVO 4G Android Development] wings9130:
Where is the apps2sd program. I am running fresh 3.4 and do not see it anywhere unless im just blind and am missing it. Also, in titanium backup if I put all apps on my sd card will they not run as well and is there a limit to the memory used for apps on your SD or is it just until it gets full. If you are good with titanium backup is there a way to restore all apps with one click instead of having to accept each one individually which takes an hour? Help is much appreciated. I was going to also ask if most people are sticking with fresh's new kernel or using their old ones such as kingxkernel.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ausch30:
From the OP

"Changes from Fresh Evo 3.3.0.1 to 3.4.0.1:

* Based on a new Sprint OTA (3.30.651.2)

* New kernel by HTC (g0f673ed)

o Modified slightly to allow apps2sd and remount to work

o Has fps unlocked by default, straight from HTC's source!

* Upped MMS size limit to 5mb (thanks to calkulin)

* Added mod to prevent MMS from compressing image unless it's over 5mb limit (thanks to calkulin)

* Added mod to unlock Sprint wired tether so that you can tether straight through the normal USB menu when you plug in your phone (thanks to calkulin. If it's not working for you then you are probably missing drivers on your computer. Check device manager. Works on 3g or wifi only)

* Updated Wireless Tether to 2.0.5-pre-11

* Updated DarkTremor apps2sd to 2.7.5.2

* Updated Google Maps to 4.5.1

* Updated Google Search to 1.1.2

* Updated YouTube to 2.0.26

* Updated busybox to 1.16.0

* There were no radio updates or updates to any system apks or jars in this OTA.

* 3.4.0.0-3.4.0.1: Fixed a browser bug. Find the small patch in Fresh Updater if you were on 3.4.0.0 already"

Darktremor Apps2SD Installation Instructions

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=7021325&postcount=2

Buy the full version
[EVO 4G Android Development] SilentSummer:
Well worth paying for Titanium Backup. The first app I paid for in fact.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jefbal99:
Thanks for the tip, I just went to this Kernel, hopefully my battery life will start looking good again.
[EVO 4G Android Development] willy900wonka:
+1

Here's my memory use with the a2sd included with fresh 3.4.01 . I added kingx bfs11 . The instructions for the a2sd script which is run from a privileged terminal program or an adb su shell, are great.

Note the 150Mb of a2sd used, and where my dalvick cache is.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=7021325#post7021325

Sent with Super-Sonic Vision using XDA app.
[EVO 4G Android Development] wfrandy:
I am running Fresh 3.4.0.1 and Netarchy 4.2.1 cfs on 002 hardware and getting exactly the same battery life as I was on Fresh 3.3.0.2.
[EVO 4G Android Development] wings9130:
If you use get the paid version of titanium backup to move apps to the SD card will the apps get deleted everytime you delete the cache? What are the major advantages to using aps2sd over titanium backup?
[EVO 4G Android Development] willy900wonka:
Find out for yourself.

Read this:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=7021325&postcount=2

In terminal do su

do df

do cat /proc/mtd

Then move the files with titanium

back in terminal do su

df

cat /proc/mtd

If df gives you as many new symlinks as you have apps, then

your apps are safe and executable, but able to be lost when you flash different roms, unlesss

titanium gives you a restore method.

If titanium gives you just one new symlink then they are safe if moving to another a2sd rom. But the best method is to move all your apps back into the phone before flashing any new rom.

Fresh has the init.rc file to use the a2sd ext area and symlinks.

It sort of makes sense to use it. http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=7021325&postcount=2
[EVO 4G Android Development] tatnai:
hmm, been having a similar experience with 3.4.0.1 and either stock 3.30 kernel or netarchy's 4.2.1 cfs. will try 4.1.9.1, I was using this a while ago and it was gold, went to the stock HTC kernels (#11 I think) with 3.29 roms cause it was also great.

going to either flash stock HTC #11 kernel or 4.1.9.1 netarchy.

BTW, y'all that are stuck on 3.3.0.1 should really upgrade to 3.4.0.1 w/ a different kernel, as the camera is MUCH better. I think they upgraded the camera app in the rom, cause even when i've flashed different kenels over 3.4.0.1, the camera still rocks. rivals my friends iPhone cameras.
[EVO 4G Android Development] radiohead_freak:
Hey man I love your work. Fresh has been my all time favorite Rom, back when I had the hero and now with the Evo. Keep up the great work. I'm looking forward to seeing some patched programs in the next release like a working usb tether with 4G or Sprints Hotspot with 4G
[EVO 4G Android Development] gus616:
4g available in los angeles?

in the san gabriel valley? i just installed fresh 3.4.0.1 with netarchy toastmod 4.1.9.1-cfs and the upgrade pri and i just turned on 4g to see if it still worked cause i read if i used clockwork mod i may damage 4g permanently. well, to my welcomed surprise i have a 4g signal. getting 4.47mb down and .99mb up speed. i downloaded a 5mb song and before i could check the status(about 5seconds) i had already downloaded the song!

curious from a previous post:when i look at my A2SD storage i only have Total:129mb, Free:52.61mb and i have a 16gb card. i noticed a previous poster had 686mb total space. could this be the reason why after a certain point of installed apps on my sd card, after a restart i lose the use of all the apps installed on the sd card because it never finished loading them and stays on "computing" when i go to manage applications? or will this rom make that problem go away. or is there a way to increase the amount of total space for A2SD?
[EVO 4G Android Development] willy900wonka:
To increase your partition for a2sd you need to reformat the sdcard. The first step is to back it up onto a disk drive. During the format ing you will choose your options. Darktremor explains it .http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=7021325#post7021325

You really do need follow that thread.

Sent with Super-Sonic Vision using XDA app.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cds36:
Are you running 3.30.651.2 or 3.30.651.3 ?
[EVO 4G Android Development] randymac88:
Is this Sprint info legit?

http://support.sprint.com/support/a...e-wh164052-20100527-115429?&INTNAV=SU:DP:HDIA
[EVO 4G Android Development] akarol:
Indeed. However, each base uses their specific kernel. Basically, what I'm getting at is that the culprit of poor battery life with some people is most likely due to it using the 3.30 base/kernel on an older device due to the OTA being intended and only distributed to 004 hardwares. The stock base/kernel of Fresh 3.3.0.1 is more appropriate for anyone with 002/003 hardwares.

Even though the 3.3.0.1 and 3.4.0.1 versions the guy above ran were stock, each one has their own kernel.

However, if you're installing a custom kernel like Net's, then there should be no diff in battery life between the two versions.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kathrynhr:
Thank you for this advice. My battery problems went away when I flashed that kernel over 3.4.

It took me awhile to find the link to the kernel in the netarchy kernel thread, so here's a direct link to the file for everyone else:

http://qap.la/~netarchy/netarchy-toastmod-4.1.9.1-cfs-fresh-compatible-signed.zip
[EVO 4G Android Development] akarol:
4.2.1. CFS More Agg. is better in terms of battery life according to this...

http://home.comcast.net/~ttechnology/compiled.html
[EVO 4G Android Development] malenightingale31:
in the screenshots what screen is it with the time and the lock and volume (3rd from left) I never see this screen
[EVO 4G Android Development] Jbcarrera:
go in to fresh updater and download the vanilla lock screen with the world clock (otherwise your won't be able to shut the alarm off) and then flash it and you will have that screen for a lock in stead of the bar
[EVO 4G Android Development] ausch30:
I'm not so sure about this. The screen shot below is with my 003 phone, it's my second phone that I received the first week in July. This is with light usage (couple 30min calls, 50 or so texts, 30 min online, 20 or so min Angry Birds). Running Fresh 3.4.0.1 (stock kernel) w/ Riptide9
[EVO 4G Android Development] danman132x:
Does anyone have issues with the screen being kind of glitchy. Sometimes when I'm using my phone, the notification bar will randomly start sliding down, getting stuck half way, no quick touch buttons on the bottom respond, etc. Hitting the power button on top to turn the screen off, then back on makes it better, but sometimes it will do this a few times until it settles down I guess you could say. I think I'm going to do a fresh install of the ROM just to see if it clears it up.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cds36:
jesus im getting confused now with all the rom's, kernels versions hardware versions. Has anyone herd from flipz? What is his take on this issue ?
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
What confusion?? Anything not listed on geek for me or through the fresh updater is not fresh original, otherwise find the magic combo
[EVO 4G Android Development] malenightingale31:
Thank you sir
[EVO 4G Android Development] wings9130:
Have you guys tried kingkernels with this new fresh. It caused my phone to freeze while I was sleeping and my alarm didnt go off. Also, I was on the phone and when I was getting a call waiting it switched over by itself. The phone seems much more unstable with the new fresh but it may be the kernels.
[EVO 4G Android Development] zeeyo987:
anyone having this issue, when trying to use voice command in a text message box when i click it the first time it dosent work, (dosent capture any sound) i have to cancel it and the second or third time it picks up the sound
[EVO 4G Android Development] tatnai:
after booting up it takes a little while for the engine to engage . the first time you use it it takes about 3 seconds before it'll recognize your voice . so you don't have to hit cancel you just have to wait a little bit .this is common to every single Rom I've used stock or custom.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Ph33zy:
what is Riptide9.... that's amazing battery...
[EVO 4G Android Development] mhmobile:
I'm not getting the kind of performance that ausch30 is getting but with approximately the same usage he describes, I've seen 16 hrs with 23% left. This is the best I've ever gotten and I've tried numerous ROM's and Kernels. Currently running Fresh 3.4.1, Net's 4.2 cfs and Riptide9's Clear Froyo 9. I'll be sticking with this one...
[EVO 4G Android Development] ausch30:
Riptide9 is a theme, nothing to do with battery life

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=727117

That was very light use for me. With my normal usage (which I would consider moderate use) I get about 30hrs or so

It's much, much better than when I first got this phone. As long as I can go 16-18hrs using my phone as much as I want and not have to worry about where the nearest plug is, I'm happy.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Biofall:
10 char answers in bold
[EVO 4G Android Development] ausch30:
Let me re-phrase, it's not supposed to effect battery life. I don't know how to create a theme but, from what I've read, it's really no different than changing a wallpaper. It's just swapping out one image for another so battery life should be unchanged. That being said, I have seen people claim worse battery life with certain themes so I don't really know.
[EVO 4G Android Development] wings9130:
I tried fresh 3.4.1 with kingxkernels and they don't seem to go good together...at least not #10/10. I have nets 4.1.9.1 but not 4.2. Can someone post where to get nets 4.2 since this is apparently the best combo for stability and battery life.
[EVO 4G Android Development] tauzins:
are u using havs? or what? can u link us to the exact kernal you used?
[EVO 4G Android Development] gus616:
great rom

not sure how different the battery life was from fresh 3.3... to 3.4.0.1,but i am happy to say that i finally got 1Day and 1hour and some minutes of time unplugged with about 25% battery left in a normal day of use for me(Had to charge cause i wasn't gonna be around any plug for a while) before the most i got was 23hrs max, and with normal use i would get anywhere from 8-16hours of battery life before i had to recharge using the stock rom. this rom is great! and fyi, i have hardware revision 0002 and i also installed netarchys kernel. runs smooth, the only small issue is that i can't get the stock apk to install nor teeter :(
[EVO 4G Android Development] cds36:
Which kernel are you using ?

Sent from my PC36100
[EVO 4G Android Development] nuformzdesign:
I've been getting pretty darn good battery life, I can easily go from when I wake up to when I go to sleep and still have at least 25% left. Granted I don't use wifi or 4g on a regular basis, but I'd still call that excellent. I've been using fresh for several months now, and after trying other ROMs, I still come back to this one. Fast, stable, has everything I need, and plenty of themes as well.

My only complaint is that I'd like more regular updates.

I'm curious though as to how much the ROM itself has to do with battery life, because the biggest changes I ever noticed are with different kernels, not necessarily the ROM. Currently I have ziggy's 11/24 kernel, and after about 10 hours off the charger, I still have 70% left. I haven't been using it as much today though as normal.

Does the ROM build have as much impact on the battery life as the kernel does? Or is that just too simplistic and broad of a question to answer directly?
[EVO 4G Android Development] tauzins:
yea what kernel u using?
[EVO 4G Android Development] cabbieBot:
i agree but i dont see it happening on this ROM. From the looks of recent history, flipz is going to update it when theres an OS upgrade or OTA update but as far as further optimizing and features, its just not in the cards. This is not an actively developed ROM.

That said, it is nice.
[EVO 4G Android Development] tauzins:
if u think about it this way, he could just be perfecting it before and between releases...
[EVO 4G Android Development] cochese2323:
Having trouble getting the Vanilla lock screen mod to take. I am using ROM Manager and it tells me to install Amon's RA.....and it also says I can install Amon's RA thru ROM Manager.....

I really like the ROM and got everything set up except I am tired of the lock screen and I want the Vanilla one.

Can someone elaborate a little bit? I am new a little new to this.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Biofall:
Yeah no problem.

Open up the application ROM Manager. Scroll to the bottom and there should be an option to "flash alternate recovery" or something. Select it, and you will flash the Amon Ra recovery.

Then go back to the updater and try to flash the Vanilla lockscreen.

The problem is, the recovery you are currently using, ClockworkMod I believe, doesn't always play nice with stuff. The only benefit of Clockwork recovery is its compatibility with ROM Manager, but if you have a ROM like Fresh or Myn, there is already an updater configured so it isn't that big of a deal.

Hope I helped.
[EVO 4G Android Development] zeeyo987:
I don't remember having a problem with stock ny sister has an evo and its stock and its loads just fine and also when switching screens I think u have to wait a lil because if I click on let's say a person right away to call it'll call the around the wrong person
[EVO 4G Android Development] cochese2323:
The "flash alternate recovery" is grayed out.....can't open it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] wings9130:
I'm not getting great battery life on fresh right now. I have netarchy 4.1.9.1 cfs and I have kingx 10 for bfs. I don't want to mix kernels but cant uninstall kingx now so can someone please post the best netarchy kernel (i believe peopel are saying netarchy 4.2) and either a bfs kernel or the stock fresh kernel so I can install netarchy over it so I'm not mixing kernels. Thanks.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kathrynhr:
Ditto Gus's specs and performance.

I was able to improve upon this even further by installing Tasker (costs $6.30 or so) and setting up profiles that do things like automatically turn off 3G, WiFi, GPS, whatever sucks battery whenever my screen is turned off, and turn it on again when my screen is back on. Also set it up to do that whenever my Google Calendar indicates that I'm busy. I'm really loving this app. You can do some amazing things with it.

Another bug I've spotted with this release: I added the HTC music widget (large one) to one of my screens and started playing music... it played a handful of songs (less than 10) and then the phone locked up and rebooted itself. Happened 3 different times. The music player itself seems fine, it just seems to be the HTC widget that's a problem.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xoreactionzox:
thanks for all the great work links not working????