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[Desire General] samac92:
Guys, we aren't going to have as good video on the Desire as the iPhone simply because the iPhone has a better camera. No software is going to change that.

The iPhone has better optics and a backlit sensor which helps greatly with dim settings.

And processing speed has very little to do with it. Do you think a Canon 5D has a 1GHZ mobile processor stuck inside it? Of course not. It takes good video because it has a good lens and sensor.
[Desire General] fluidz:
Another sample - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISYt9Lf1DCg

Uploaded using the YouTube app built into 2.2.
[Desire General] martintzvetomirov:
Here's a sample I've just recorded in daylight. I'm dissapointed. As you can see it drops frames, freezes, etc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm6lyd5LBno
[Desire General] lennshow66:
When recording in low light just put the LED on, works fine :)
[Desire General] mornixuur:
The examples aren't that bad. I think it would help a lot if people could keep their phone steady and walk and move the phone at the same time. Tha is pushing it a bit for the Desire.

The important question is do we have a better/fixed framerate for 800x480? For me this would be way more important and better for practical use.
[Desire General] Kickasskev:
Hey what do you expect they could of just not give us the update and put it on a new phone for every 1 to buy
[Desire General] franklinvv:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punctuation

I couldn't understand what you were trying to say.
[Desire General] Balos:
problem is the frame rate is crap so I **** on its HD capability. 720p is actually a 60fps standard, not 30 and certainly not 16. Screw HTC. This is my last phone form them.
[Desire General] Sonorov:
Perhaps you should consider buying Canon EOS 550D (Rebel T2i) if you want 720p@60fps, not a mere

smartphone

:P
[Desire General] mornixuur:
Well not exactly. 720p means 1280x720 progressive. Which means to get a full frame it is rendered not twice like an interlaced stream. Frame rates are a mixed bag these days. Once it would just mean like film which was 24p but these days we have 25 and 50 for the pall world and 30 and 60 for the ntsc world. The stream can be progressive or interlaced. To make matters worse many compact cameras let you choose between pal or ntsc but still offer 30 frames even if you choose pal. Frame rate conversion can be a real nightmare for the non pro (and given some dvd/blu-rays for the pros to sometimes).
[Desire General] ragdoll20:
Its obvious that the quality is bad.. its just a phone people.. I'm in the line of business where I work with video cams a lot and I always crack up when people start talking about "HD" :p what did you expect really? They should just give an update so we can have a fixed aperture so it doesn't shift lighting all the time and we can have 480p at 30fps. Id be a happy man ;)
[Desire General] mwatson:
The reason people are so upset by this is because the iPhone 4 does 720p video so much better. My 3GS does low res better than Desire's HD. We hoped this would at least match the quality, but it doesn't come close.

I bought my Desire a week ago with a view to movie away from the iPhone. Fact is after a week there still isn't anything out there that beats the iPhone. It continues to rule!

Oh well.... Desire back on ebay poor thing :o iPhone 4 here I come!

BTW the speaker sucks bad on the desire.. don't think I could have lived with that. The phone has to wait 2 seconds before it rings.. Only installed a few apps and its telling me its out of space!

Maybe next year...... Bye for now... nothing to see here :rolleyes:
[Desire General] doinbox:
The iPhone 4 is a phone. That has comparable video recording to a pvr. No ones asking to make a movie using there phone. But you'd think the quality would get better over the years not worse.
[Desire General] Inquitus:
Video recording on any phone without an optical zoom is a waste of space, period. Your target needs to be within 2ft or its lost in the ridiculously large field of view. It's a gimmick period, like all the other hardware stuff the iPhone 4 brought to market.
[Desire General] ArtieQ:
Problem is HTC, they need to put more effort into their phones and make at least ONE perfect. They put out so much phones with good specs but the drivers and **** aren't optimized so of course you won't get what you expected.
[Desire General] mijanous:
Did u people heard about Desire HD? Obviously not .... why would they release a perfect release for your Desire if there is new model coming ? It better than nothing and as I seen yesterday is MUCH MUCH better in low light than it was before

Sent via my HTC Desie from XDA tapatalk app
[Desire General] dany_danay:
Difference between htc and iphone is the chance to buy a os out different models not only one...I prefer a poor 720p than to have to buy all my songs from apple market...

On the other hand, I redd its possible the pour quality because the poor speed of the sdcar writing... Sorry for my english
[Desire General] MaTiCeK-:
I don't care about 720p, but I do care about poor audio. It's unacceptable, we should make a petition or something... They can't possible use 8000 Hz sampling for audio recordings in 2010!
[Desire General] jedininja666:
Hey guys, what a free open source way to converts the videos made on this thing to something I can actually use? I want to try shooting in 720p and then dropping the videos into Adobe Premiere, but I believe I need to get them into a format Premiere can work with. What do you guys use on your Windows machines?
[Desire General] martintzvetomirov:
It's a little bit off topic but what are you looking for is called VirtualDub
[Desire General] jedininja666:
Are you sure....I don't think VirtualDub is going to even let me view it, much less convert it...

Edit: I was right, can't even load a .3gpp
[Desire General] rob81h:
Winavi should convert them, But i don't believe it's free!!!;)
[Desire General] martintzvetomirov:
Oops. Sorry I never really used it with 3gp files but I was left with the impression that it works with everything :)

Byw Total Converter is a good all-in-all video converter, but unfortunately it's not free :(
[Desire General] th3:
Yeah, after some testing it's obvious the 720p is not just upscaled WVGA.

720p data rate is fixed at 8Mbps for me and FPS still fluctuate depending on ambient/object light. 4.8 is lowest and 50 is the highest I've seen, indoor recording in the evening.

Recording has massively improved in terms of stabilization and smoothness over the T-Mobile UK 2.1. You don't have to hold it perfectly still to capture the content in good detail and without blur.

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- Sent via my HTC Desire -
[Desire General] jimlad:
Don't let the door bang your arse on the way out, especially since your head seems to be up it.
[Desire General] hensk:
noup m8,in A8 Iphone you have grapix chip who make diffrences

& give more GPU speed to Samsung also Iphone video performace

if you like to read about 720p development HIRE
[Desire General] jedininja666:
SWEET!!!! Can confirm that I was able to use the freeware SUPER to convert a test video into a full 720p MP4 at 30fps, with stereo AAC, and it played back nicely on VLC 1.05!!! Get in!!!! :D
[Desire General] roby6298:
SD Association Speed Ratings...

Class 2: 8 Mbit/s

Class 4: 15 Mbit/s

Class 6: 20 Mbit/s

Class 10: 30 Mbit/s

Dunno Maybe?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ifuwanttolisten:
I flashed the s3vo version of froyo on my phone and after a reboot I went back to update my radio. Once the update completed I reboot my device and saw the error screen with the software box and the droid outside of it.

I assumed something was wrong so I pulled my battery thinking I could get back into recovery and restore a back up, but now I cannot get the phone to power back on at all.

Any ideas?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chazglenn3:
Try to plug the phone into your computer and boot into recovery via ADB.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ifuwanttolisten:
Haven't done that before so I'll have to look around for instructions.. in the meantime if my phone has no power will I be able to do this?

I cannot get the phone to power on. I have tried swapping with my wife's battery but no luck.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] twerk:
1. Make sure you have a charged battery.

2. Have you phone plugged in to the charger while trying to power on.

3. Are you holding down the power button and volume down at the same time to try to get into recovery?

:shrugs:
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wvonmayer:
Bad news. if you cannot go into recovery or adb your phone is bricked
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ifuwanttolisten:
The charging satus led light does not come on and it still does not respond
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wvonmayer:
That's the only moment from all when the battery cannot be removed. if you have a charged battery and cannot power the phone sorry to tell you this but you just got yourself a 500 dollar black brick
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ifuwanttolisten:
good thing i have phone insurance :knocks over glass of water:
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stangdriverdoug:
I was doing the same think, and my phone bricked, had to geta new one yesterday...I rooted with unrevoked before, going simpleroot this time to make sure I don't have problems this time. good Luck
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] looneylu:
good thing this happened before phones with new software hit the stores!!!!!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] psychopsilocin:
Same thing happened to me. I battery pulled during a radio update. Arrrggghhh, brick.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DomSim:
Seriously guys, you need to research thuroughly before doing things like this. After flashing, the phone needs to reboot then it goes through another stage of unpacking and finalizing the flash. There are very comprehensive instructions here and else where about flashing a new radio. Read, read, and read some more and most importantly DON'T PULL THE F'ING BATTERY!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ifuwanttolisten:
i didn't get that android screen when i flashed the radio on our other evo, so i assumed something was wrong on mine.... oh well.. new phone should be here in a few days
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shawnathan9:
READ INSTRUCTIONS.

When in doubt, read again and have some patience.

You guys are basically bricking perfectly good phones and not allowing other people to get their nice shiny EVO's because you had to get yours ONLY because you failed to take an extra 10-20 of your life to READ CAREFULLY.

I do understand that the lack of knowledge may have caused you to "mucK" it up but your actions are your responsibility so I suggest that you READ before you try to root or flash.

On the other side of spectrum, I completely understand your naive actions. I also have had issues when I flashed and I as sweating it for a bit but I NEVER would pull the battery during a radio flash. IT IS SAID 1,000,000 times that it can BRICK your phone! -LOL!!!

...well, at least you've learned a $50-$100 lesson from this :)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Harfainx:
Every time you flash a new Radio or WiMax, you'll get the android and the box on your screen. It sucks that happened, but for future reference, you should always have that happen when you update either of those two.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chamala2000:
My phone is broken :( but I'm getting a replacement on the manufacturing warranty.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rmitchell4209:
Have some patience before pulling battery, I personally always wait at least 15 to 20 min if it is stuck on a screen. And if you are having troubles with following written directions their is always youtube.
[Desire General] JayceAndTheNews:
Hi all, I realise there are going to be loads of threads (indeed there are already some) outlining Froyo upgrade woes/tips but since users with Orange branded handsets seem to have a slightly different time of things I thought it may be useful to share experiences(although presumably it will only be debranded users that are going to be updating at the moment).

I debranded mine to the RUU_Bravo_HTC_WWE_1.21.405.2_Radio_32.36.00.28U_4.06.00.02_2_release_126984_signed rom and have unlocked the phone using a code from eBay. I'm about to install the OTA update with a goldcard inserted I'll let you know how I've got on after the fact.

Thanks.

Worked! On the face of it it seems to have worked. As far as I can see my stuff has been retained and everything is working (camera included).
[Desire General] doinbox:
Yeah thanks. Maybe Goldcard is the answer
[Desire General] kryptic_:
Just updated my unlocked debranded orange desire with goldcard inserted. No problems so far everything working fine including wifi.
[Desire General] FazUK:
Running 1.15 as I didn't want to have to unlock on updating to 1.21

I assume I'll have to:

OTA update to 1.21

Unlock

OTA update to Froyo w/ Goldcard

Agree?
[Desire General] JayceAndTheNews:
I could be wrong but if memory serves, you have to have the goldcard in for the OTA update to 1.21 or your wifi will stop working (provided the handset is Orange branded) Something about not being able to overwrite a file without the goldcard in? (But that will update your radio and then you'll need to unlock it as you say) I could be wrong though :P
[Desire General] doinbox:
Ok just so you all know i've succesfully downgraded to 2.1 using my goldcard. Now to try the 2.2 update again using goldcard.
[Desire General] lennshow66:
Im on orange debranded unlocked and never rooted, what should i do?? :)

EDIT: doinbox should be able to answer this when he finishes :D
[Desire General] danprocter:
Guys, just spoke with Orange and apparently they are rolling out Froyo by end of next week, i think I might wait rather than use a gold card
[Desire General] SkinBobUk:
Ahhhh i never thought of this.

I went ahead with the ota upgrade and now the phone keeps rebooting in a loop. It gets so far as the unlock screen and then i get a notice saying "Process system is not repsonding" I get to choose "force close" or "wait". Neither selection does anything, the phone simply reboots at this stage and gets in a loop.
[Desire General] theboylogan:
Im in same boat, seems to be that it's using the 2.1 radio version so it wont work. I'm stuck where to go
[Desire General] JayceAndTheNews:
Success

Righties, on the face of it it seems to have worked. as far as I can see my stuff has been retained and everything is working (camera included).

Updated initial post.
[Desire General] lennshow66:
what about when you take out your goldcard??

Thanks
[Desire General] rico8787my:
I dun like Orange Roms.

So I did the same like the Author of this thread did.

Flash to the Original WWE Roms with goldcard. Then Update to 2.2 through OTA.

No Problems at all!! Fantastic Froyo.
[Desire General] JayceAndTheNews:
Just taken it out and put my big card back in, all fine. I believe the goldcard itself is only for the installation of roms and radios onto branded handsets, so once the update has completed I don't believe you need it in.

That said it was my intention just to make my big memory card into a goldcard and leave it in the phone permanently (I just forgot :P)
[Desire General] lennshow66:
Downloading now. Thanks for risking your desire for the community ;)
[Desire General] aindow:
I had previously updated my Orange debranded Desire to 1.21 using my gold card. I just used the same gold card again to update to froyo and it all worked really well.

Just make sure you have 25mb free space on your phone before updating.
[Desire General] aindow:
It works fine for me after removing my gold card. :-)

Rik
[Desire General] JayceAndTheNews:
Hopefully it all goes well and smoothly for everyone else :D

I'd imagine the worst that could happen is some reflashing/unlocking required.
[Desire General] rico8787my:
Unlocking code is pretty cheap at Ebay. I bought mine for only 7.99 GBP. So no worries...
[Desire General] SkinBobUk:
How exactly do we do this mate? I'm new to android.

Thanks.
[Desire General] norths53:
Could everyone state their "starting point" before the update to 2.2 in their post?

Mine is an unlocked Orange Desire which I have never rooted but I did flash the generic HTC rom to debrand it from Orange.

Firmware is 2.1

Radio 32.30.00.28U_4.05.00.11

SOFTWARE 1.15.405.4

I disabled OTA updates as I read updating to 1.21 software would result in phone getting locked again or wifi problems.

If i do an OTA update now, will it update to Froyo or will it update my software to 1.21 first, which will probablly lock it?

If it does update to Froyo will I get locked also?
[Desire General] FazUK:
Exactly same situation as you...

So can we skip 1.21 and go straight to Froyo or not? Guess if we could we'd have to do it manually. Anyone been in this situation?
[Desire General] theboylogan:
Put in Goldcard then 'check for updates' and proceed
[Desire General] norths53:
FazUK will you take the plunge first?

theboylogan: Were you in the same situation as us?

Oh didn't mention in my post that I am in Pakistan and not Europe so I am not even sure if OTA Froyo is available here!
[Desire General] FazUK:
I'd prefer not to have to unlock if I don't have to!
[Desire General] norths53:
So I inserted my gold card and checked for updates, and the 1.21 update message popped up. This made me lose my confidence again and I canceled all updates!

So still on 1.15 software and 2.1 eclair.

Does anyone have any advice?
[Desire General] wh1t3r4bb1t:
I have a debranded Orange desire, I had installed 1.21 using the RUU update and gold card. Had no problem upgrading OTA to Froyo today, worked like a charm.

Notice: the OTA update to 1.21 did not work for me, lost WiFi connectivity and forced me to apply the RUU one.

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire General] norths53:
When you applied the RUU update to 2.1 did it simlock your phone again?

Was your phone unlocked before you debranded it?
[Desire General] wh1t3r4bb1t:
Never needed a simlock (Orange France)

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire General] lennshow66:
This is what I did, bearing in mind my HTC desire WAS orange branded, but is NOW an HTC desire that is unlocked and unbranded.

First put your goldcard into your desire and then boot you phone and download the update from HTC system update.

Once the update has downloaded install it (making sure you have at least 25mb of mobile phone storage)

Wait until it has installed and then you can remove your goldcard and place any other SD card into your desire and now your phone will be upgraded to 2.2 on orange :)

Hope this helps.
[Desire General] aindow:
Just use your goldcard when you do any OTA and everything should work just fine. I would recommend buying an unlock code just in case. If your phone ever re locks due to an update you can use the same unlock code.
[Desire General] O and O:
What's the easiest way to make a goldcard without reformatting and is there a one click solution?
[Desire General] wh1t3r4bb1t:
What's the meaning of using a gold card while performing an OTA??

To my understanding, the gold card is used to put the phone in RUU mode when using the fastboot utility. Again to my understanding, this allows you to flash any ROM that is correctly signed regardless of whether it matches the currently installed.ROM (allowing debranding).

But an OTA only provides you with a ROM fully matching your phone profile and does not put the phone in RUU mode. So what's the need for a gold card? Am I missing something?

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire General] bedeabc:
Just use the Goldcard. A branded phone will always be a branded phone and hence Goldcards are necessary.
[Desire General] mglancy23:
i went from orange stock to 1.15 via a gold card

ota update from 1.15 to 1.21 (sim locked my phone)

had to take out the sim card to access android as the unlock message appeared and would not let me go further

bought an unlock code of ebay for £7.99! phone now unlocked (though you can save your self money and flash a different radio and this will also fix the issue).

done an ota update (with gold card) to froyo

everything is working fine, no issues at all.
[Desire General] bugmenever:
Hi guys,

Mine was bought locked and Orange UK branded. I unlocked it as soon as I bought it, but have never debranded it. Am I right in saying that I need to install .15, then .21 which will lock my phone? If it does lock it can I just re-use the code that I used to unlock it the first time? Also, I keep reading about losing wifi, how can I update without that happening?

Thanks!
[Desire General] norths53:
Ok so I have Froyo now.

Here is my timeline. I bought an Orange branded HTC desire (black version) which the seller had already unlocked. (I am located in Pakistan btw)

The phone came with the Orange branding (outside and inside) and after a week or so I finally had enough so I made a gold card and flashed a generic HTC ROM (RUU_Bravo_HTC_Europe_1.15.405.3_Radio_32.30.00.28U _4.05.00.11_release_121865)

I turned off OTA updates as I read that 1.21 update would screw up or lock my phone.

Finally with the Froyo launch I could not wait any longer so I put in my gold card again and went with an OTA update to 1.21. In my case the update went fine and there was no simlocking or wifi issues, and one more OTA update later I am on Froyo and so far things look fine. Remember I had my gold card in during all updates RUU or OTA.
[Desire General] Rens11:
Good afternoon people can the people who have upgraded their Orange debadged desire confirm that all they did was keep the goldcard in updated to 1.21.405.2 and then to 2.2 and WiFi and radio etc are all working perfectly on 2.2?? Still a bit nervous to try this Haha :rolleyes:
[Desire General] steve228uk:
I managed to get up to Froyo with no issues but I did have to unlock as the dastardly HTC put the latest firmware on my phone when I got it back from repair and I couldn't downgrade.

I left the goldcard in and went to 2.2 with no issues though :D
[Desire General] Rickalicious:
Im on an unbranded unlocked Orange Desire with:

Firmware :2.1 - Update1

Baseband : 32.36.00.28u_4.06.00.02_2

Software : 1.21.405.2

I unbranded with the default HTC rom and did an OTA update to 1.21.

Now i find out Froyo is out...

I'm checking for update but it is currently saying I have the latest version.

Is there something i need to do to get a froyo OTA? :confused:
[Desire General] Rickalicious:
about 10 mins after this it prompted me.

So i updated forgetting i didn't have a gold card in and its stuck in a reboot loop. lol

oh well.. i'll sort it tonight hopefully.
[Desire General] saiprasad30:
Guys,

I'm on Orange HTC Desire Branded but unlocked using a Key bought online.

This is what I did Created a Gold Card and then used the RUU Below.

RUU_Bravo_O2_UK_1.20.207.1_Radio_32.36.00.28U_4.06.00.02_2_release_124865.exe

When Running this RUU I had my GOLD CARD IN MY DESIRE.

Everything went fine. The Phone updated itself.. Rebooted WOW without the Orange crap..

Now after series of FOTA updates Now downloading FROYO.....

This is my first experience in Debranding. Worked out really well.

Will update you guys on about FROYO afta the Update.
[Desire General] Rickalicious:
I fixed mine by putting the EXE on a gold card, as per http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=741518

Worked like a charm.
[Desire General] saiprasad30:
Finnally FROYO....

Everything works and is faster
[Desire General] aindow:
I kept my goldcard in my phone for all updates and it worked absolutely fine for me without any issues whatsoever.
[Desire General] tuntang:
wont work for me!

I have a debranded orange phone and I've downloaded the update, renamed it as update.zip, followed all the instructions and all i get is a cant verify signature error and i've got the goldcard inserted. any ideas?
[Desire General] claudefrog:
What Version of HBOOT did you have, I just tried the 02 RUU but get Bootloader Version Error.
[Desire General] Alizeroxx:
hi , quick question. i have seen the many RUU's available for legend . but what does the Bravo mean??
[Desire General] jobalz:
please don't throw bricks at me :-)

I just wanted to know how the new iTunes sync with froyo works?
[Desire General] porsch1909:
I would like to know as well