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[XPERIA X10 General] umaronly:
Guys, with so many android users, and so many of you xperia users, surely someone would know ?? Would greatly appreciate any help...would not have asked for it if I had found anything by searching..
[XPERIA X10 General] indesisiv:
for the second one why not just use the silent mode?

settings - sounds then turn on silent mode.

Or just use one of the many shortcut widgets in the market place to toggle it between silent, vibrate and full sound.

THere is a quick settings widget built into the phone that does this too.
[XPERIA X10 General] rvictorg:
Don't know. I have voicemail and that seems to be sufficient for me.

I'm not exactly sure what you mean? Like rotate the phone to mute the ringer??

If you're not already using Handcent SMS then go install it immediately, it's by far one of the best apps on the market. It will allow you to send group sms.

gmail allows you to make contact groups which I would think allow you to send group emails. The stock Dialer app on the X10 doesn't have contact groups, but I believe there are better paid for apps on the market for that kind of functionality, do some more searching because I know it's been discussed someone on XDA I just can't remember where.

Question for you: How do you like the X10 compared to the Desire? I'm debating about making the switch :S

FYI try posting questions like these in the apps section, you'll probably get a better/quicker response.
[XPERIA X10 General] umaronly:
Hey, thanks for the responses

To answer your queries rvictorg:

1. Voicemail is not an option for me here, so reject with sms is what I am looking for

2. yep, (indesisiv, thanks for the tip but I need to have the option of getting the phone to ring and just mute it without looking if I am talking in a meeting if a call comes in)

3. Handcent sms is great but I find a few issues with it - after getting a number of sms in the phone, it slows down..not to mention it takes up quite a bit of memory. I have used it for quite a while, am not sure whether I want to revert back to it

To answer your question about desire versus x10i, lemme tell you first that I have had the luxury and misfortune to have used almost all the class A handsets from all the major manufacturers and OS platforms. I will be posting a full review very soon on the forum, but lemme give you a heads up that might be shocking to quite a few - I prefer the x10 by a big margin...why? a few spoilers:

1. Battery life on both the phones is almost the same with the latest firmwares - so all the talk of desire being better are crap in real world use. In fact, on my use (moderate) I found the x10 to be way better

2. I am sick and tired of the measly evolutionary changes in HTC sense since the Hero. And anyway, you can always root and get whatever UI or home replacement you want. I am sticking with x10 timescape since I find it not too bad and gels in nicely with the phone experience and is NOT slow, just relatively slower compared to sense which you probably wont notice in every day use.

3. The screen on the x10 is wayyy better than desire, and auto brightness setting on the x10 are far more intelligent. not to mention bigger size.

4. The physical design of the x10 takes my breath away - nuff said.

5. Some people complain about the speaker volume being low on the x10 - relatively, yes it is; actually, there are worse phones on the market. and it works well enough for you to use it, unless you have lost some ('quite a bit') of your hearing. And, you can chose some tones (if you must) that are louder than the others...so its almost a non-issue.

Practically, there is little to no difference between the phones when it comes to real world use, no matter how heavy a user you may be. The UIs can be customized, and the lower memory (RAM) and no multitouch in hardware seem to be the only 2 gripes, which are not dealbreakers (think about it, how many times apart from zoom have u ACTUALLY used multitouch!? as for the RAM, there is a thread on this forum that proves android is just as fast whether the ram is 256 or 512 MB..). BUT, the choice comes down to - screen quality and size, phone design, battery life. The x10 takes the cake by a big big margin in my opinion here. And do not forget the touch screen calibration issues HTC phones have been facing since the switch to AMOLED - its a serious issue, one that has cost me a lot of hassle on both the Hero (even it was not amoled) and the nexus one.

Hope this helps. This is one effin' darn good device, dont let whiners tell you otherwise.
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
I think that pressing the volume buttons on the side mutes the ring.. (seems to remember accidentally doing that a couple of times taking it out of it's case..)!..

Haven't come across anything which sends a text on a rejected call....

Haven't had any problems at all with handscent.. I've got tonnes of texts and mine runs fine..(??)..

Have to agree that since the last couple of updates the phone runs really well and the battery life is good for 3 days on light usage.. bloody brilliant!
[XPERIA X10 General] mezo9090:
Man you just made my day better by that quick review. :)

sent from my x10i that is banging for a 2.1 upgrade. ...
[XPERIA X10 General] rvictorg:
cool, thanks for that quick review too, definitely helps me out! It's very interesting to hear your opinion especially coming from a great device like the Desire and your experience with others. Any thoughts on Samsung Galaxy?? lol

I only have a few gripes with the X10, and almost all of them are software related. I'm just keeping faith that the devs can crack the bootloader so we can start flashing custom roms and possibly get Froyo running on this beauty. I'm getting a little more antsy with all these new devices launching and now their respective Froyo updates this past week, makes me really question SE's commitment to their devices and customers.

Timescape looks cool and...well that's about it. It has loads of potential imho, but it's missing way too much functionality to make it even remotely practical. I honestly have not used it once in the past 2 months which is really sad because it was a major selling feature of this phone.

Mediascape is actually pretty awesome...other than the fact it doesn't have a widget...or an equalizer...or the ability to create playlists...but other than that I think it's fantastic and honestly the best media experience I've seen on Android to date.

I really hope Sony Ericsson does more than basically change the digits 1.6 to 2.1 :( I'd love to see 2.2! more SE widgets for EVERYTHING (I think I have a widget fetish) 720p video, photos with flash, an increase in call volume (I can hear it, but it really does need improvement) then I'd be totally satisfied.

I just hate knowing that this gorgeous piece of hardware isn't reaching it's full potential, I really want to love the X10 but I don't yet...that really, is where my resentment comes from.

And good luck with your 3 questions, for 1) I just noticed an app in the Market called SMART SMS by Smart Apps LLC, it's $0.99 and appears to be able to reject calls and send a customized sms to the caller, hope that helps
[XPERIA X10 General] viditkalra:
give chomp sms a try...see if it works for you..

ring to mute..as someone said above, the volume keys should work fine..
[XPERIA X10 General] KurskS:
Recently bought 2 Galaxy S and a Desire, maybe Im gonna try do a video test soon. From my point of view, first touch to the Galaxy S doesnt feel good. Why? Because the Galaxy S feels cheapy in the hands, its way too light and absolutely doesnt feel solid. Imo its even not as good as the Desire one... The back cover is really thin, when u push it in the middle, it bends. The overall design looks more like a toy and a cheaper version of iPhone 2G, especially when the screen is off. One thing really let me down is the phone bezel around the screen, its higher than the screen itself, a really strange thing for a full capacitive touchscreen, even when I put a screen protector on, the screen is still lower than the bezel.

About the Super AMOLED screen that everyone is curious about, when u turn the brightness all the way up on galaxy and x10, the x10 seems to be much brighter in web browser... a really weird thing, the colors on Galaxy S tends to be hotter, its more yellowish and reddish, but defenitely the screen on X10 is brighter and more eyecatching, eventhough the default homescreen of Galaxy S loos very attracted, from here I really love the X10 screen. Last thing, if u put too many widgets on the homescreen, the Galaxy S will suffer some lags in animation, a real down point. Testing page loading in some heavy pages such as Goal.com, PremierLeague.com or GameSpot.com in default web browser, the Desire usually comes first with around 2-3s ahead of Galaxy S and the X10 is the last with just 1s behind Galaxy S (X10 running OS1.6)

The only thing I can see Galaxy S is better is the GPU, its a lot better than Desire and a bit better than X10 in some 3 D heavy graphic games in term of FPS and also help webpage scrolling a bit smoother than Desire and X10 (note that the X10 is running OS 1.6). Thats all I can say for now

PS: As umaronly said about the light sensor for auto brightness, I agree with him the sensor on X10 works a lot better than the other 2, in some low light conditions, X10 turn the screen down very low and seems to be more sensitive in changing environment than the other 2, same condition but the other 2 seems to be brighter, which affects battery life a lot
[XPERIA X10 General] viditkalra:
Shake 2 mute...

In case ur wondering that ull just shake ur phone and it'll mute..yeah, ur right..the lite version let's u mute wen u receive a call just b shaking the phone..

The donator's version let's u pick the call after muting...
[XPERIA X10 General] umaronly:
Thanks for the app suggestion people, will surely try them out soon.

Am pleased to see you liked the feedback from my mini-review, am hoping for a good response from the detailed one. As for comparison with Galaxy S (which I have also tried), it is definitely not as solid and fluid as the other 2 sets. Leads me to blame the Samsung UI touchwiz (if you turn it off i.e. use a replacement home UI it works much better).

BUT, looking at the overall experience of the phones and physical design, I am still inclined towards x10...it is way more attractive in its entire package compared to the other two, unless you are only or mostly into 3D gaming. Also, 2 words on AMOLED and Super AMOLED screens - stay...away!! If you read up on the technology behind amoled and TFT LCD you will notice the inherent advantages of using LCD tech..pundits will try and convince you about the marginally better (12% or so on average) power consumption on AMOLED, but in real world use, if software is well tuned and auto-brightness works well, you can NOT tell the difference, other than the gorgeous display itself on LCD. In fact, in my tests the xperia x10 outlasts the other handsets on battery life even with the bigger screen (and of course bigger battery, but that is something you ought to expect from all smartphones!!)

Also, lemme tell you a bit of good news (don't ask me the source please). x10 will have an update to 2.2 later in the year as well, and apparently the thing flies on the 2.2 ROM even on the very early build, where SE engineers are tweaking the social integration much tighter into the OS (think: fb pics sync with contacts :)), plus the added benefit of installing apps on memory card allows RAM to be free for phone UI. It flies, and kicks the @$$ off of other smartphones...stay tuned!
[XPERIA X10 General] instigator008:
Just got a little aroused there ;)
[Desire General] well0549:
Yep really approx 90 MB
[Desire General] SNaReX:
I hope this is not a fake thread also
[Desire General] rampehh:
Hi guys,

I've just finished downloading the Froyo OTA update (i'm in australia, so it took me a while). I ran the install file from a popup and ended up getting an error due to lack of phone storage.

I've now cleared enough space for the update but i can't for the life of me get the .zip file to run in any way. Going to check for updates just re-downloads.

How can i install this darn .zip? I'm so close!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Lirkaren:
Hello

When im using the standard rom on my tp2 and i press the powerbutton so i goes top powersave mode it dosn't allways wake up about 80% when the phone is freshley started it won't wake up. Anyone know how i can fix this?

I only have the problem when i use a standard rom, with coustom roms and with andriod it works well. I would use a coustom rom but I can't get swedish keyboard layout to work on them..

Sorry for bad english.
[Desire General] FOZZER:
Peeps just 2.2 and was wondering has anyone sussed to transfer apps to SD
[Desire General] Merzhin:
I wonder too how to transfer my apps to SD, cause HTC Sync 3.0.5372 tells me: "your device does not have enough free memory"...:confused::confused:

However, I still have 3.2 GB free on my SD card:(
[Desire General] Anon87:
There's an app called - SDMove

OR

Settings -> applications -> manage applications

you'll have to check each app and click to 'Move to SD card'

fyi - For many of your apps the button to 'move to sd' will be greyed out.
[Desire General] well0549:
And if your app is not optimized for FroYo you can still use this trick ( no root needed )

to move ANY app to SD.....

See : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=742379
[Desire General] mortuus82:
The app has to be updated, this sucks, i wonder how long it will take before most popular apps/games will get support to move to sd.. sucks to always have about 15-20mb free memory :(
[Desire General] Merzhin:
You're right!

Only a very few apps can be moved to SD :(

It is not really enough to clear space on the internal memory.

I was expecting much more of Froyo...:o
[Desire General] well0549:
If you use the trick mentioned in my previous post, you dont have to wait for the developers. Everthing is automatically installed on SD AND everything can be moved to SD, you will NEVER see a grayed out 'Move to SD' button again !

So have a look ath this : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=742379
[Desire General] Boonyard:
This doesn't seem to work for me, I just keep getting 'device offline' in the command prompt...
[Desire General] Merzhin:
OK !

That works fine for me and I can transfer a lot to SD Card.

Thanks
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ductions:
Sorry if this has been posted, but I can't seem to find much info on phones locked to Orange UK, and I feel my post is quite specific.

I have a black HTC Desire from Orange UK, and as far as I know the black desires are locked to Orange.

Since I bought the phone I've rooted it and I have a custom ROM, (not sure which one, but its software number is 1.15.405.4) I rooted using the goldcard method over at modaco.

I also, whilst playing around with unrevoked, added clockwork recovery to my phone.

There is an OTA update available to me (not 2.2 yet) 1.21.405.2, but when I try to install it, the phone reboots and the progress bar for the update gets to around 20% and the android logo is shown with an exclamation mark.

Then when I press the lock button clockwork recovery appears, and shows an error:

E:failed to verify whole file signature
E:signature verification failed
Installation aborted

So that update doesn't work.

Anyway my question is, can I pay for my phone to be unlocked, and install a standard/generic unbranded ROM to my phone and then receive updates like normal (either rooted or unrooted, I'm not too fussed)?
[Desire General] dereck66:
Just about an hour ago, I have upgraded my HTC Desire to Froyo 2.2. So I have quickly done a 720p video recording, and compare to iPhone 4.

The result (data taken from QuickTime player):

Movie FPS: HTC Desire (16.37), iPhone 4 (29.54)

Data Rate: HTC Desire (7.42 mbits/sec), iPhone 4 (10.44 mbits/sec)
[Desire General] gogol:
Yupe. I tested 720p and it is not good.

I don't have iPhone 4, so I cannot compare.

I hope the 480p of HTC Desire is getting better. I prefer 480p if I can get good fps.

Can you test 480p with your tool above? :)
[Desire General] wallieballie:
What about this clip, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLmvRSxgtd8

Running at 30 fps
[Desire General] dereck66:
Well, it is running Froyo (r5 MoDaCo), not the stock HTC Froyo...
[Desire General] kekkle:
The 480p now supports H.264. It looked super smooth from what I did a quick test of.
[Desire General] benman27:
The 480p seems much better using MPEG4 than H264, in H264 there is more tearing during fast motion and some artifacts.
[Desire General] bedeabc:
What a shame. Had high hopes for HTC's 720p implementation :(

And the same s***e audio too...
[Desire General] doinbox:
Surely the desire has the hardware to support 720p at almost 30fps.

Who does HTC's code for christ sake!
[Desire General] kekkle:
If I record inside with low light my FPS is 12.

Filming outside through a window made it 22FPS.
[Desire General] martintzvetomirov:
I am not surprised by the low quality of the camcorder. I kinda expected that. As opposed to doinbox, I don't think the camera of the Desire is capable of 30fps in such high resolutions (especially when I know what it is capable of in lower resolutions). Well, maybe if there are sufficient lightning conditions... Don't know :) It's already dusk here so I can't test it outside.
[Desire General] doinbox:
But seriously that isnt acceptable. If, lets say, when the desire was first released it was advertised as supporting 720p video recording and you went out and bought it only to find it had poor framerates you would think it was broke. You wouldnt buy a tv that said it could support 1080p video but only at 22fps its ridiculous really. The Desire probably with alot of time and effort could record 1080p at 30fps. But it seems they don't want to spend the time in achieving this.

Which really annoys me!
[Desire General] doinbox:
The Hardware in the desire is much more powerful than what you would find in a 5 megapixel digital camera that can record 1080p video at 30fps.
[Desire General] doinbox:
http://www.chinavasion.com/product_info.php/pName/hddv-pocket-camcorder-digital-video-camera-1080p/

Check this link its a pocket HD camcorder. Im sure it has terrible hardware inside yet it can record 1080p at 30fps. So what would make you think the desire can't do it.
[Desire General] martintzvetomirov:
I just hope its true :) If it is then we should expect more from Gingerbread :)
[Desire General] kekkle:
We had to wait till Android 2.2 for us to get 720p. Perhaps it's not the hardware, but the software that is the limitation.
[Desire General] doinbox:
That's what I'm saying the hardware does support it but HTC are just not putting the hours into coding for us to get 30+fps.
[Desire General] MGuDiM:
could a higher class microSD Card possibly make any difference? I'm a bit disappointed myself especially when the picture quality itself is brilliant for a mobile device
[Desire General] bedeabc:
I doubt that the FPS problem is CPU related. It's more likely an I/O bottleneck in the camera hardware or driver.
[Desire General] NiXC:
Couldn't it be optics quality related? It is a tiny lens after all, and if we get 22fps in sunlight but 16fps indoors, then surely that implies issues caused by the camera needing a slow shutter speed to cope with low light. I think it's fixed aperture so all it has to work with is shutter speed (and therefore fps) and sensitivity...
[Desire General] bedeabc:
@NixC

That could well be the case. However, the amount by which frame rates seem to vary between ROMs and codecs suggests that there might still room for improvement beneath the limiting factor of the optics.
[Desire General] dereck66:
Maybe Desire doesn't take good video when inside with low light condition, however my iPhone 4 can record video at nearly 30 ftp under the same condition. Both HTC desire & iPhone 4 have similar hardware specifications.
[Desire General] NiXC:
Good point. Perhaps HTC rushed out the 720p implementation to get it out there to compete with the iPhone "flaw" on paper at least, and will improve the codecs with 2.2 update 1...
[Desire General] mvmpy:
Well this sounds just like HTC. I remember my TyTN II where the camera was also a huge disappointment.
[Desire General] remmyhi:
I have just recorded and published the following file:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWqN5H0vFO0

Made by HTC Desire with 720p on and cloudy settings outside.

Quality quite good imho...

PS - the quality in YT does not reflect the original quality, so I have uploaded the original file to:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=X5RAY00S

(pity it's only 3gp...)

best regards

r
[Desire General] Kickasskev:
that vid on youtube is excellent quality whats every 1 complaining about its a phone not a camcorder
[Desire General] doinbox:
I'm sick of hearing this.

It's a phone with a camera. Just like the iPhone yet the iPhone can record at near 30 fps at 720p so we would like to know why we can't. And just so you know. The reason they make smartphones is so you don't have to carry a pda, camera, psp,calculator etc. They're made to replace all these things for everyday use.

And let's say u wanted a new phone and you seen one in a shop that said it had digital tv on it and u bought it. We all know its not gonna replace your digital tv at home but if it was jumpy and poor sound quality. I'm sure you wouldn't just sit there and say "well it is a phone after all. What was I expecting". No. I'm pretty sure you would be peed off. After all these phones cost money.

At the end of the day the camera can be made a lot better with the right coding as most phone lenses are the same, yet all phones camera qualitys are very different.

I compared my desire quality to an iPhone 4 and the iPhone 4 really is a lot better than the desire (as much as I didn't want it to be) for taking pics and recording video.

So u can't just say its a phone not a camera.

P.s. I'm not trying to start an argument these are all true facts that I would like to share to others.
[Desire General] UltraLinx:
You're right and I totally agree with this.

The camera on the HTC Desire I'm pretty sure is capable of doing just what the iPhone 4 camera can do, maybe even better it's just the effort hasn't been put in.

The processor behind the iPhone 4 is also 1Ghz but Apple have somehow made use of all of that 1Ghz which HTC haven't, as much as I hate to say that.

I'm sure the iOS uses a lot more of that 1Ghz for all those animations, window transitions and effects ETC, and it can utilise still when it's recording in HD because you can touch to focus and stuff.

With proper time spent on the HTC Desire it can be better than the iPhone 4 in probably every way except the screen resolution.
[Desire General] ratchetnclank:
I think you'll find that dalvik is what slows 720p recording.
[Desire General] doinbox:
I don't really have a clue what that is. Can u explain what it is and why it would cause the slowdown please m8.
[Desire General] th3:
That looks very good, better than the previous 720p in FroYo ROMs. Thanks for the demo.

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- Sent via my HTC Desire -
[Desire General] mcgon1979:
not a bad sample http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvU2YF9507k
[Desire General] kwikdahl:
Are all you people deaf ? Does none really think the audio quality on recordings are pure ****?

A sampling rate of 8khz is just ..... well.

A phone 5 years ago could record better sound . What is the reason that HTC is doing this? Is it a licensing issue with codecs?
[Desire General] mcgon1979:
h.264 or MPEG-4 encoding?

whats the best option for quality?
[Desire General] kekkle:
You can only do 720p with MPEG-4 anyway.
[Desire General] remmyhi:
Surely not deaf - indeed the quality of recorded audio is terrible...

The AMR codec used is from prehistory, and should not be used in modern (even low-end) devices... Honestly do not understand the politics behind it (although I generally do not understand politics).

Here what I do - recording via phone I always add the music in background later on in PC, as my Blu-ray player does not like AMR anyway...

best regards

r