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[Epic 4G General] gTen:
Yeah...I went with my friend to a sprint store a few month back...they were looking for a dumb phone..thats all they wanted...there were like 4-5 dumb phones..2-3 smartphones and 10 blackberries >.>...I know blackberries may be popular but maybe thats a little overdoing it...

I had a hard time convincing them to stay with sprint after that...I mean all they wanted was an ok dumbphone an they couldn't even get that :/
[Epic 4G General] koolhand79:
Sprint focusing on 4G is crazy. Your average customer barely knows what 3G is and doesnt care. They don't wanna know they can upload videos quickly or download something faster. These are not practical uses for phones to average consumers.

Sent from a FRESH EVO using xda app
[Epic 4G General] xpoisonfreex:
this marketing is definitely dumb, I switched over to sprint from Verizon to get out of their crazy monthly charges, I type a lot (SSH) and i need a physical keyboard, i tried the evo, returned it, got the Intercept, what a POS laggy useless phone with a horribly blurry screen.

had to go in and cancel my sprint service because they wouldnt allow me a 30 day extension to hopefully wait for the EPIC.

great marketing: Piss off customers and keep them looking at competitors phones.

:/
[Epic 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
I don't think any company will give you an extension on their first 30 days.... and you can attribute the ****ty phones to the manufacturer not the service provider
[Epic 4G General] koolhand79:
Sprint has to take some blame for ****ty phones, they sell them.

Hey shroomz, get off the xda boards, go to work and get us a freakin release date. Lmao.......

Sent from a FRESH EVO using xda app
[Epic 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Hah, trust me when I know, you'll know but I don't work weekends :)
[Epic 4G General] scrizz:
Sprint's "4G" is a joke.

I just wish the Epic Was a GSM phone.

:(
[Epic 4G General] entropism:
Actually, about 75% of my customer base comes in asking about the EVO and Epic, and how it compares to the "4G iPhone". We then explain 4G (and that the iPhone isn't 4G) and they ooo and ahh, and put themselves on the wait list for an EVO. Of the 400 we've sold so far, I believe 10 or so returned them.
[Epic 4G General] boinger66:
just talked to a sprint rep and they said they will get the phone at the beginning of september
[Epic 4G General] USAF22:
Is it just me, or does it seem like my dog is more likely to know the launch date then these Sprint reps?

btw: She is saying it will be here before the end of 2011, so mark your calendars.
[Epic 4G General] rasstar:
I wonder if the OP will return with some more information. Too much unreliable info flying around the internet. There must be a reason why Sprint is taking so long to announce the date. I wonder what it is.
[Epic 4G General] ScientificOne:
I think we should get Paul the octopus to tell us the release date of the damn Epic:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_the_octopus

:D
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
I don't know if thats possible since I heard the Germans were having Takoyaki after they lost the soccer game to spain :/
[Epic 4G General] scrizz:
It prob has to do with the GPS issue ;)
[Epic 4G General] blakehess11:
Well, I thought that I was going to give up on waiting for this damn phone and just grab an Evo and call it a day, but it's proving to be impossible to find one. I called THIRTEEN different stores today about it, was out of stock at all of them and nobody knew when they would get more. Only Radioshack had waiting lists, but they were backed up with 6-10 people and they only get 2 or 3 phones in a week.

Oh well, I guess I'm destined for the Epic anyways as I'm being forced to wait! It's too bad the 8/11 release is an impossibility at this point, that would have been too awesome but now I'm just hoping it's released sometime this month, although that's looking a bit unlikely now as well.

(Totally OT, I know, but this thread has already been pretty derailed since it's pretty clear there won't be official pre-orders available through Sprint.)
[Epic 4G General] imdshiznit:
yeah 8/11 looks unlikely... the samsung twitter posts also keep on saying "weeks away" even today. =(
[Epic 4G General] Shadomastr:
I called Sprint yesterday and they told me sometime next month (september). I'm guessing that's probably correct. Sprint has a tendency to push updates/phones back. Just look at how ling they delayed the hero update. I doubt the epic will come before September. However, I would love to be wrong.
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
well the epic 4g is back up on there home page after being down this weekend maybe this means something would love to get a release date or price tired of all these mixed up rumors of release date im going to think its the 20th hopefully next week I will have this phone in my hands
[Epic 4G General] robl45:
if they don't release it soon, they might as well not bother, the are losing tons of business to verizon. I'd go buy a droid 2 if I wasn't completely broke and need the cheapest service.
[Epic 4G General] MameJunkie:
Same thought process...if Sprint doesn't even announce the release date by the time Droid 2 ships, probably will jump ship. Heard today that Droid 2 might possibility a world phone with a sim slot which is a big bonus for me.
[Epic 4G General] fooo1:
I agree. I thought the EPIC would originally be a world phone. That's a killer feature that would make me switch to Verizon also (4g not in my area so worthless).
[Epic 4G General] ForrelZ:
Droid 2 is not a world phone, read the phone's FCC filing how in the world can a phone be a world phone with no GSM radio.
[Epic 4G General] MameJunkie:
Then I wonder that the heck "Global Ready" in the marketing speech means?:confused:

Correct me if I'm wrong but heard this somewhere is the forums also...

FCC filing doesn't have to indicate the GSM radio if its not for use in that capacity in the USA.

Someone spewed out the fact that TP2 which was a world phone didn't have the GSM radio spec out in the FCC filing.
[Epic 4G General] ForrelZ:
Maybe it's ready for global warming but in other countries it will not work very well without a GSM radio.
[Epic 4G General] fooo1:
Someone mentioned the Sprint Touch pro 2 which is a world phone, did not list the GSM info in the FCC filing since that wasn't its primary radio in the US. I haven't verified this. But it would preclude that limiting the Droid 2 as a world phone if so.
[Epic 4G General] ForrelZ:
The Touch Pro 2's GSM radio was listed and the sim slot was highly photographed and advertised right before it's release.

Dug up this old post:

http://wmpoweruser.com/fcc-documentation-show-cdma-gsm-touch-pro-2-has-us-gsm-disabled/

The US GSM being disabled was because it was a Sprint release but was unlockable.
[Epic 4G General] fooo1:
Here's the FCC docs: https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas...me=N&application_id=185399&fcc_id='NM8RHOD500'

It's slow to parse through it but I didn't see GSM info in the emissions reports.

I don't read these for a hobby though, so maybe I just didn't find it.
[Epic 4G General] ForrelZ:
Clearly listed:

About half way down on this page, it's not listed above at the top because the phone is listed primarily as a CDMA phone but all the capabilities of the phone including GSM are listed in the document below, some people don't go through the whole thing but it is there.

https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=1113578

If the link doesn't open check the document labeled exposure 1.
[Epic 4G General] fooo1:
That describes their testing procedures, not the device.

Either way, we'll know in 3 days I guess.:)
[Epic 4G General] Yodeluca:
Pre-orders might be today guys.

http://www.i4u.com/article37269.html

So i'll keep my fingers crossed :P
[Epic 4G General] mattism78:
This is the same story that has been repackaged with different dates about 3 times now.
[Epic 4G General] ForrelZ:
LOL Read his report and click on his Engadget link, the "report" he's talking about is from the 6th yet he's reporting it as being posted on the 9th. The date given on the 6th was proven to be false.
[Epic 4G General] kennethlongshaw:
yup. this thread has a two star rating because of things likes this.
[Epic 4G General] Yodeluca:
Damn your right :P oo well still hoping its comming out this month!
[Epic 4G General] LiberatorUSA:
I'm pretty certain now it will be released in the first half of September. Simply by adding up what we know and patterns witnessed in the past. Android central posted that 10 Epic's will be given away as part of an August 28'th movie opening with the accompanying contest ending Sept. 3rd. So it stands to reason as they suggest that the phone wont be released before that. Add to this the lack of advertising. No reservations opening up, the official website being nothing more then a teaser with 2 video's still grey'ed out. Add to that the reported GPS problems with the Galaxy S phones which will require a software update. All that added together makes it pretty certain in my mind we won't be seeing this thing for at least another month.

http://www.androidcentral.com/sprint-giving-away-10-samsung-epic-4gs-part-tie-movie
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
I disagree..if you think about it...the EVO tie to the movie was an actual event..or a pre-screening...in this case they are not doing that...it just airs in theaters on august 27th..there is really no tie to the movie other then a mention..if anything they are just advertising the movie and the phone in 1 to cut down on costs >.>

Lets do some math...Event for pre-screening was may 12th..movie aired may 28th..phone came out june 4th...

So if they were to repeat that we should be having a pre-screening Aug 11th..movie airing Aug 27th..phone come out Sept 3rd...

But if there were an Aug 11th pre-screening we would have known by now as it was made public over 20 days prior for the EVO :/
[Epic 4G General] ScientificOne:
You're thinking too logically about this...and we know Sprint is anything but that..LOL
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
I think Sprint is very logical..they always pick the option which will contribute the most to driving them out of business or loosing customers :P
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
Im going to bet on that aug 2oth will be the date it comes out. And they will announce the date by the end of the week? Any takers??? :D

Edit: We should have a prize or something to the one who can guess the right date. Or Some punishment lol Make waiting more fun :)
[Epic 4G General] koolhand79:
That'd be fun. But if sprints past is any indicator then the 20th is not looking good at all. That would give them less than 2 weeks and they haven't even announced anything yet. Does anyone know where the 20th even came from or what gave us a clue that may be the date??
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
The original Aug 20th date came from the fact that Samsung calendar had a live show for Aug 20th on their calendar for the Epic..for the other Galaxy S phones they also had shows on the intended release dates. After people asked them about it they quickly set the show to the year 3000 lol

Then when the pre-order thing came in it ended 8/17 which even more contributed to it...

Lastly some people working at sprint said it is scheduled to release on Aug 20th...or 22nd

Those are the 3 times that date surfaced
[Epic 4G General] mattism78:
The 20th is based on the Samsung TV episode that was to feature the phone.
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
Damn beat me to it damn work got in the way lol

im still thinking the 20th or the weekend 21st or 22nd according to sdx-devleopers.

If it doesnt have an announcement by the end of the week ill think its going to be early september.
[Epic 4G General] ben7337:
Originally Samsung had a website with videos of the different US Galaxy S phones and airing dates that were around the dates the phones came out, and they had an epic 4g air date ofr Aug 20 2010 but they changed it to Jan 1 3000 after a few days and people thought this meant we had figured out the date.

I just went to the site and right now it says

"Coming Soon

Samsung Epic 4G (SPH-d700) EP.1"

Here is the link

http://support-us.samsung.com/spstv/live.jsp?channelId=101&scheduleId=
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
Dang now it says coming soon hmmm im waiting til the end of the week to see what happens.
[Epic 4G General] NeonMonster:
Sprint really does know how to completely **** up a release.

Lack of information + updates + messed up dates/schedules = People losing interest.

I'm almost at the point where AT&T looks like a better choice.
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
Im just getting frustrated im not losing interest. Besides at&t Blows in my area and way too ****ing expensive.
[Epic 4G General] MameJunkie:
You know you really screwed the pooch when even AT&T looks good. :eek:
[Epic 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
I guess it makes sense if you REALLY dont want to wait any longer... pay more, get less... I did when I wanted my windows tinted... paid an extra $40 to get them done that same day...
[Epic 4G General] NeonMonster:
Its not about having to wait, its the lack of coordination from Sprint & Samsung.

Going from having release "Epic movie episode days" that disappear off calendars, hinting across all the Samsung pages about epic news coming then getting deleted.

Some people say that Sprint stores have been doing pre-orders, while other stores have no idea whats going on. People on here who claim pre-order dates that never happen.
[Epic 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
You would figure after all these years you'd learn that nothing is concrete until you can actually put in an order for it
[Epic 4G General] bolo23:
Well, we may not be able to order or pre-order the Epic, but something I was able to order (and received today) was the invisasheild for the Epic. At least we know the phones for real if they are selling accessories for it already.
[Epic 4G General] ImSoHungry:
you cant pre-order yet, but the sprint store close to where i live at has a cool manager, after talking for about 10 minutes and letting him check out the greatness that is the Nexus of mine, he started a list of people with me first on the list!
[Epic 4G General] scrizz:
T-mobile Wins!

Seriously, with all this mis-information we're getting and nothing official; we don't know whats going on.

That is not good publicity.
[Epic 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
You realize it's only like the 10 people in here that care right? I have yet to receive ONE phone call in regards to the Epic, the release date or anything related with it
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
I thought you were retentions..why would you receive phone calls about the new phone?
[Epic 4G General] harrybozack:
Actually after all these years I'd figure that a Sprint rep (from the website) telling me that I can preorder something which turns out to be false. These reps are supposed to be speaking as representatives of the company. It's extremely ****ty how Sprint is handling this, sorry Mr. Shroomz.

And yes, I'm one of the ten people who care.
[Epic 4G General] USAF22:
How the f-bomb (I don't know if I can say that here, so I will use that stand in) can the Droid 2 launch tomorrow, before the Epic 4G!!!! Are you kidding me??? The Epic was announced all the way back in freaking June, and the Galaxy S has been around for months!!! What is wrong with Sprint! This is just too aggravating for words.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/10/motorola-droid-2-and-r2-d2-edition-finally-official-android/

Also, in the realm of launch possibilities, sprint is hosting a Small Business Breakfast Seminar in Charlotte, NC; on August 31st, which is "weeks" away, and will include a "product demo of 4G products". Just saying

http://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#!/event.php?eid=150290611653186
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
Thats not fair to judge..Verizon actually plans to make a profitable business...
[Epic 4G General] USAF22:
LOL, yeah, I guess Sprint was just so disturbed by actually gaining customers for once, they decided they needed to take drastic actions to lose more (like the 4G fees, the Evo shortages, and the lack of Epic 4G-ness)
[Epic 4G General] shep211:
I think they are waiting on the gps fix from samsung. A lot of users are returing the phone because of the gps issue. On at&t, tmobile and samsung forums there are post like 'why would you release a phone with issues'. I think sprint is waiting for the fix to advoid returns & unhappy customers. I bet as soon as the gps issue is fixed the phone will be released.
[Epic 4G General] USAF22:
Well then Samsung better be working pretty darn hard, because I would rather get the phone without GPS, which I only use about once every 3 months, as long as they give a warning "this phone still has some minor issues, affecting GPS, but you can buy it now and wait for the update, or wait until everything is fixed" Of course, that would probably be a PR disaster because of how stupid most consumers are, but if they did it through a hidden store, like Google tried with the Nexus One, those of us that want it now, and can deal with the issues could get it, while the general consumer would be joyfully oblivious.
[Epic 4G General] rasstar:
That's because they charge an arm and a leg for everything. When I compare my Sprint Family plan Verizon it is $50.00 more a month for less service.
[Epic 4G General] ForrelZ:
Verizon would charge you 25c everytime you reboot your phone if the FCC didn't exist. They love those surcharges.
[Epic 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Retention picks up all phone calls... we are Sprints fallback department. We receive overflow from every department
[Epic 4G General] B-Real206:
I'll be F5ing the sprint page come midnight!
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
I don't think pre-order will be up one sprints site from day 1 >.>...

That said where is all the advertising for this phone..can't sprint do anything right?

lastly....1-2 min till the show..
[Epic 4G General] MameJunkie:
For the EVO, Sprint didn't do pre-orders but it was up on release date.
[Epic 4G General] brandor:
I have a good friend who just received a company e-mail with the details for setting up these orders for customers calling in to Customer Service and Telesales.
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
Think he can copy and paste the email and remove all the extra stuff?
[Epic 4G General] Dman10:
I think the Epic will probably come out on the 20th.
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
Ok I can confirm that this is real 8/5 for S|P preorders and 8/6 for all other customers...after 17th pre-orders end..so it is at least after that date...
[Epic 4G General] karnovaran:
So does this mean your Epic will be at a corporate store on launch day? No shipping involved?
[Epic 4G General] ScientificOne:
Here's what I found out via sprint chat:

6:51:57 PM : Reservations are made through sprint.com/epic4G.You can only reserve one Samsung Epic 4G phone per reservation.

6:52:02 PM : : No money or credit card information is required

6:52:17 PM : : Reserve Now closes on 8/17/10.

6:52:27 PM : : Reserve Now orders not picked up by noon the day after launch are canceled.

6:52:37 PM : : Reserve Now will close early if inventory runs out.

6:55:13 PM : : Reserve Now functionality opens to Sprint Premier customers beginning 8/5/10 and opens to all other customers beginning 8/6/10.
[Epic 4G General] fldash:
I hate trying to decide between an EVO and the Epic. I just placed my order on our corporate Sprint portal and they had the EVOs where you could add them to cart (so I assumed they must be in stock). That was Sunday night, and lo and behold, I find out today that they are on backorder, and going out first come, first serve, but that these portal orders have top priority.

If there weren't so many question marks with Samsung phones, it'd be a much easier decision and the GPS issues aren't helping either...
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
There is already a few methods from he community which fix the GPS issue :/..those few that it didn't fix for replaced their phones and the new ones worked fine...
[Epic 4G General] brandor:
I had that same decision to make a month ago, I personally went with the EVO. I was told it would be 10 days before I got my device and it showed up at my door after only 4..... I'm really happy I chose the EVO, like you said , Samsungs I have had in the past just were never reliable. I think I am going to let this first wave of advanced Samsung devices come out and see what issues if any arise..... Not to mention you never know how Samsung will handle this Android thing once they start putting some upscale devices on the market... Motorola seems to try to tighten their hold on their Android line with each device.... bit I have not ever owned one so I could be completely wrong too! Anyway..... I say order the evo..... try it out.... there is always that 30 day policy.... by the time you decide if you like the EVO or not the Samsung may be released and available for a swap?!?!?
[Epic 4G General] imdshiznit:
i see nothing =(
[Epic 4G General] boomerbubba:
This is gross misinformation, if not disinformation.

The community "fix" never was a fix at all, just a configuration settings change that probably should have been made in any case to enable aGPS. But the underlying problems with GPS satellite locks and accuracy remain. On my Vibrant I have applied this "fix" and replaced my phone and the GPS problems remain. Many other Galaxy S users report similar disappointment. If you want to understand the consensus experience of the "community," read the many threads detailing the defect, at the forums for the variants of Galaxy S already in use. There were some threads whose headlines erroneously promised a "fix," but if you actually read all the comments, those headlines were wrong.

Some naive end-users report the problem "fixed" because they don't really understand GPS and its interplay with various apps. (Frankly, most end-users don't.) Also, some users who think the configuration change cured the problem, or new users who think at first they don't have the problem, later report that their GPS is failing.

There is a firmware update expected sometime, but no one even knows for sure (and Samsung won't say) if the root cause of the problem is -- firmware or hardware. If the latter, then it is not reasonable to expect new firmware to really fix it.

The GPS defect occurs in all the released versions of the Galaxy S to date -- international I9000, AT&T Captivate and T-Mobile Vibrant. Right now these vendors have a lot of egg on their face for releasing their phones with the defect, and a lot of angry customers. The question for Sprint and Verizon right now is whether they will ensure that there is no GPS problem on their versions before pulling the trigger on release.

I love my Vibrant, but the GPS defect is a deal-breaker. If Sprint can release a version of the Galaxy S without the defect, I would jump carriers for it. Even if it takes longer before the rollout.
[Epic 4G General] badblowntie:
Samsung Epic4G release date?

I just got off the phone with sprint sales, and he told me the phone will be released August 8th but he didn't have any pricing yet. Somehow I think this guy was wrong but I sure would like to hope!
[Epic 4G General] Dman10:
That'd be awesome if he was right, I need this phone already
[Epic 4G General] nicko786:
Haha yeah that can't be right, but it'd be nice. I don't plan on getting this from the Sprint store, but BB instead, just not sure if they're taking preorders. They claimed they were for the EVO, but they just said its first come, first serve so I got mine the day the white ones came out.
[Epic 4G General] kennethlongshaw:
best buy added the epic to the galaxy s line up page with a "coming soon" button

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Misc/Samsung+Galaxy+S+Series/pcmcat217400050007.c?id=pcmcat217400050007
[Epic 4G General] ajac:
why would they do pre-orders at www.sprint.com/epic? thats not even logging into our account and has no way of knowing if we are premier or not. I call a /fail on this at least at www.sprint.com/epic I can see them doing it from inside your accounts but everyone I talked to said thier are no pre-orders coming to sprint.
[Epic 4G General] robl45:
well It would be nice if bestbuy or radioshack would offer preorders. radioshack seems to give free stuff so they seem like the best place.
[Epic 4G General] wphend00:
anyone been able to pre-order yet?