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[Desire General] andycted:
1200:6000 it's 5 times more. Yes it's not true 720 hd, but I can perfectly live with that quality if we get a couple of fps more

I've taken two short videos of a label, took screenshots from video player, cropped them, resized the 480 to fit the same size as the 720 one. It's very blurry compared to the normal 720p. See the hour in the fake pda, you can't read it in the upscaled one.
[Desire General] Jaa-Yoo:
Video upscalers tend to do a better job than a simple photo resize and they do introduce more data leading to a larger file size. The disire may truly just upscale the video after all. In any case, its a shame that video capture on this device is as poor as it is. I dislike Apple and their iphone, but i'll give them this; all aspects of the software work very well from go and if not, a fix/upgrade is provided in a reasonably short time.
[Desire General] andycted:
Given the current state of their last shiny toy, I think it's a bit funny to say so.

Anyway, I've done some more tests and I can take the screen captured from a 480 video and upscale it with any tool with best quality or other algorythms and you always end up with a lot less detail than 720p, especially when there is a lot of light (unlike that test above). I don't think the desire has the processing power to do a better upscale than what I'm trying and while there might be a bit of upscaling given you have a tiny lens, it's not all there.

Also any tiny lens without zoom is pointless when taking videos from the distance anyway.
[Desire General] Albert Poon:
I can only get 15-16 fps... anyone can do higher?
[Desire General] andycted:
I can easily get 25 average, outside in. good lighting, with a class 6 sd
[Desire General] finnschi:
No its our own song, although i can see how the beginning sounds kinda like the Who :cool:

I talked to some iPhone engineers about how the iPhone can archive 30Fps ... its because all the decoding of pictures delivered by the camera is handled by the GPU... for Android its all done on the CPU! so we need to find a way to decode the video stream using the Desires GPU, but I think the iP4's GPU is far better than the Desires... i am a hardware engineer... i am in no way able to code anything like that! What Makes me curios is file size comparison between an iP4 and the Desire.

Also: Desire running a non sense rom (AOSP) just like the Nexus gives much better 720 Quality!!! so I guess its in the software ;)
[Desire General] quicksite:
SInce I am NEITHER a hardware nor software engineer, I am useless here, other than to ask obvious questions. Your apple access to methodology of iP4's video capture is itself useful information -- something that if I were a software engineer working on the various test projects here at XDA, I would want to know. Maybe that's something they could infer, or maybe its published somewhere, or maybe it's one of those "Geez, it's so obvious do i really need to be told that?" points.

That then gets blurred and muddied by the REAL armchair knowitalls (*I* disclose that I know nothing) who pounce on a pronouncement by someone here and say "That's impossible, or that's bullcrap, look here at my image, it proves you wrong, end of story" -- only to often find --- NOT end of story and that person got it wrong.

All i know is -- my experience has told me never presume -- because this site is SO HUGE, it is actually quite often that the right hand doesn't know what left hand is up to.

I wish there were a better means of coordinating the total knowledge holders of XDA site on this 720p issue regarding TOTAL CAPABILITY, software and hardware, so there is 100% collaboration. In the end, there is only one answer: Yes, desire can meet or exceed iphone4 720 p in every measure of resolution, or not.

THE PART I DIDN"T GET:

Which is bigger? what is your initial inference? larger file size = higher rez?

thank you
[Desire General] sky|ined:
roufianos cooked a Rom that achieved 29-30 fps but the phone restarted after 50 seconds of recording. Was that due to overheating of the processor? I don't know. His phone gave up spirit and he is waiting for a replacement so the development of his Rom is on pause at the moment.
[Desire General] mcgon1979:
I've not seen more than 23fps in 720p with great lighting. anyone else? I use a Class2 card so maybe using class 6 is why you get 25fps average?
[Desire General] Nosrulz:
Ive managed 26fps @ 720p with my Desire running official unbranded 2.2. Im using a Class 4 card, so that might help over your Class 2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saS39iqjDgs

I just compared the youtube clip to the original on my PC (i scaled the VLC window down to the same size as playing the youtube clip in its 'expanded' size) and there is definatly a small quality difference. The details on the original are noticable finer, so even @ 720p on youtube the bitrate must take a small hit.

Here is a screenshot of the comparison.

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9005/720pcomparison.jpg
[Desire General] pigbrother:
After a full day of testing and swearing, i promise myself i'll never buy anything else but Sandisk cards:

- Sandisk Class 2 (default) - OK, no dropped frames

- Kingmax Class 2 - awful experience, lots of dropped frames

- Kingston Class 4 - better, some dropped frames from time to time

- Sandisk Class 2 (8GB card) - no dropped frames in 15 minutes of testing, 26.48 average FPS
[Desire General] Nosrulz:
Im using a Kingson Class 4 (8GB) and i havent noticed any problems as long as im outside in good lighting conditions. No actually i lie, i just remembered one video i recorded the other day where it stuttered once for a moment. I wasnt sure what it was but now it makes sence that it may have been the SD card.
[Desire General] andycted:
It would be interesting if you mentioned whether you are using HTC Stock rom or some port of cyanogen 720p, as it uses a lower data rate and it's easier on microsd.

With my old HTC-touch-HD-stock-Transcend-8GB-MicroSD, which should be a class 6 but is reported at class 4 most of the time, I can get cyanogen 720p to be as fluid as possible, all the time, no exception. With HTC Sense one, I have to kill every process, probably disable wireless network, then I can 50% of the time get away with it.
[Desire General] JonasKP:
Okay! tested mine and got a nice 1:01 min video out of it :3

no skipped frames!

FPS? got no clue! xD but it looks fluent! xD

but! the flickering is from the fluecent light on the library i work on

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt7ojgd5ESs
[Desire General] andycted:
My card usually gets reported as class 4 in tests, only once or twice at class 6 and I even saw a couple of times as class 2. So I'd say it's a class 4.

while on this, I've changed a few htc sense roms, while I could achieve no stuttering and 24-25 fps in very optimal conditions, killing background tasks, this wasn't always the case, especially with roms I've tested lately.

Since then I moved to OpenDesire and now to Cyanogen nightly. The codec and datarate is much easier on the sd, and there is no way I can get it stuttering. Framerate in good lighting is always around 24.8, with perfect condition I can get a bit more. Shame you basically lose autofocus on video recording though, but I've read somewhere they are working on it.
[Desire General] Karli:
Comparison 720p on iPhone 4 and Desire 2.2

Hi,

I did a test comparing 720p on the iPhone 4 with 720p on the Desire under 2.2, here is a Video showing the difference (you need to watch it in 1080p or, even better "Original" to see much difference, so the best is to watch it on youtube):

[youtube]7xD5sgK3QEg[/youtube]

The iPhone 4 Video ist 48MB, the Desire Video 37MB. :confused:

Here is one Image from the Video showing the quality-difference:

You can see the better Imagequality on the iPhone 4.

Under good light the Framerate is nearly as high as the iPhone 4, under bad light the Framerate is really ugly.

As already mentioned in another Thread, cleaning the lens or, even better, removing the Backcover improves the colors a lot.:cool:

For me is the 720p ok, when i bought the Desire it was not important for me, so it is a "nice to have". :)

PS: my comparison of the iPhone 4 and the Desire 2.2 (in German!)
[Desire General] andycted:
Nice test ! That is however consistent with the fact that right from the start one of the main features of that phone was the go od backlit sensor, although you can always doubt apple marketing.

On the other hand HTC has an history of very cheap sensors, but I think that with the desire we have a mid range one.

The different data rate can be down to codec type and compression/level of detail

Which rom did you use ? Was the desire lens protection on ?

A couple of observations:

- image quality isn't all that different, especially while playing

- same for the framerate, not that bad

- colours in the desire are usually a bit drab, due to the protection and some settings. they can be tweaked though

- the still from the desire looks a bit "less still" than the iphone one. If I pause the movie around that moment, the picture on the desire is less clear than on the iphone, but not so blurry. In other words it seems to me that in that precise moment the desire was moving a bit. I've taken a random screen cap from a video done in average/good lighting (outside, but it was already late afternoon) and it seems to me quality can be less blurry. http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/PcN4vrEUybNDYzN_IaHgJw?feat=directlink. That's not to prove that the desire has a good definition, but that is just a tad better than shown there

- the iphone is a tad less jittery when moving, which can explain the above point.

EDIT again: could you upload the original movie somewhere, in order to see if post processing by youtube made some difference ?
[Desire General] andycted:
Waves video

Recorded a one minute video by the sea, mainly waves in good lighting. 24fps average. Panning is a bit jittery but overall can't complain.

Lens cover was on, although clean

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssFnQsdz0DE

one more: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6kar8Z_VpU
[Desire General] spritable:
Here are 2 tests that I've made with my desire from my car. It shakes a lot because of the window holder, which is very cheap one, but the videos give an overview of the quality.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X-6wKx1qPs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn6TvRd_MFc

Stock 2.2 Froyo

Transcent 8GB class 6

Wifi and GPS turned on; Apps running in background - I have to start killing all of those before shooting a video.

PS. I've tried couple of applications for joining 3gp and converting them to .avi, which can be played on almost every player and I found one that is good enough for me - it's called Boilsoft Video Joiner.
[Desire General] andycted:
Smooth ! I'm watching them on my mobile youtube, but they seem good. Which stock rom is it ?

By chance, is your sd recycled from a previous htc phone ?

EDIT: I've seen them in the laptop now and it appears a lot more jittery.
[Desire General] fergusstrachan:
Can I ask how people are getting above 20fps? It seems that my maximum is 20 (on 480 or 720), and I read somewhere that the Desire defaults to 20 but goes down to 15 in low light. (Apparently that's balls, but I'm a bit confused about the whole thing!)
[Desire General] andycted:
I guess there are three factors:

- lens quality. Nothing to do about this, you need good lighting to be above 20 fps

- sd writing speed. This depends on the quality of your card, and can cause stuttering, more than just low fps. If you use cyanogen implementation of the video camera, you can avoid problems though, since the data rate and encoding is a lot easier on the sd

- buffering and cpu usage in encoding. Can't comment on this, but for example, before our greek friend burned his desire, in the process is tweaking video recording, he could achieve 30fps
[Desire General] spritable:
I bought that SD card separately. My Desire came with a 4GB Sandisk class 2.
[Desire General] Marcell-o:
Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOSp5gtTI5U

Description : Girlfriend and i working in new house.

Problems : none at the moment

FPS : ±23fps

Rom used : Open Desire 3.0.5

Phone had a static place

When holding in the hand when filming, there is a strange liquid lag when moving.

Soon i will post a test made with OD 3.1.0
[Desire General] fergusstrachan:
Is the 'cyanogen video implementation' only part of his/her rom or is it installable on a stock rom?

(I have searched on this but haven't found umuch beyond the cyanogen rom)

Thanks.
[Desire General] MrRalphMan:
I believe that this is to do with licensing issues, HTC have to license code to use the GPU. They don't want to pay any extra so we have to make do with the CPU.

Not sure if this was for Windows Mobile or Android
[Desire General] andycted:
That could actually be the case, but just out of curiosity, how do we know that processing on the Desire is handled by the CPU and not the GPU ? Especially since they are bound together...

Anyway, as reported in the other thread in Developement, if you set 400-800 ISO in the camera, then switch to video recorder, you usually get better fps. The same seems to work automatically in the nexus one/cyanogen port of the camera. I'm not really knowledgeable in the matter, I'm just reporting some tests results, anybody please step in and correct me, if that's the case
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vibez:
I'm trying to edit framework-res.apk so I can theme my rom. Are these the correct steps?

pull framework-res.apk from my phone

decompile the apk

make the changes

rebuild the apk

sign

zipalign

push apk back to device

I'm not too sure on this method as after I pushed back my modified apk, I get a load of force close errors

Any advice would be welcome :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] setenza01:
don't sign and don't zipalign and all are fine
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vibez:
I tried without sign and zipalign but the rom wouldnt boot. If I sign, I get force close errors

Does the rom need to be deoxed?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] setenza01:
How is your process to decompile and recompile what tools do you use
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Benjamin Dobell:
Is this an ODEXed ROM or a deOXEDed ROM? You can't mix and match. If you're not ODEXing any APKs after you've modified them then you need to make sure all APKs are deOXEDed.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vibez:
I use apk manager to decompile and rebuild
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vibez:
It is a stock rom but there is no framework-res.odex does that mean it doesn't need deodexing even though there are odex files for every other apk in my system folder?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FadeFx:
maybe this little monster is some help to you:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=7377678#post7377678
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vibez:
Nice app but this theme also needs .xml changes which this app doesnt support
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FadeFx:
ok, i put him a note in his thread about the xml changing issue, we will see what hes answer will be...

edit:

also this software could do the trick: http://android.modaco.com/content/t-mobile-pulse-pulse-modaco-com/302404/ande-android-design-editor/
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vibez:
I've been playing around a little more today and it seems the issue is that no tool can rebuild the xml files correctly, they seem to be compressed/encoded.

Has anyone been able to edit an xml file in framework-res.apk and have the phone read it properly?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Daneshm90:
Refer to my signature. Apk manager.

Edit : just read ur op.

Never sign the system apk's. Simply keep the original signatures intact and after recompiling them, re-include them.

So here are the rules u must follow :

If u've modified the manifest.xml, u must stop core, push the apk, start core or push the apk while in recovery.

If u've modified anything else, a simple push / reboot will do the trick.

Note, u cannot flash a modified system apk the first time (as in on a clean boot), u must flash the original rom, let it build the dex's and then flash ur modified apk.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vibez:
Hi, I am already using apk manager but the xml files it creates do not seem to work.

To prove this, I have done a test. See the attached xml files,

original_stat_sys_battery.xml was extracted from the original framework-res.apk

I then used apk manager to decompile and then recompile the same apk without making any changes.

recompiled_stat_sys_battery.xml is this recompiled file

I then opened up both files and they look different to me
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Daneshm90:
That shouldn't concern u. Apktool's method of rebuilding the apk/arsc file is slightly different than how android originally builds an apk. What should concern u is if the apk simply works. Now when u decompile the apk, can u check the log to see if it reports of any missing resources, if it doesn't ur fine. So decompile the apk, make ur changes, recompile the apk, move the original meta-inf folder into ur new apk and push it to ur phone following the guidelines in my previous post. if it causes problems, post ur log and i'll take a look.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vibez:
Ok this time I have added meta-inf to the new apk, pushed it to my phone and the phone hangs on boot.

Here is my log
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Daneshm90:
Oh lol i meant the log of ur phone.

Use adb logcat
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vibez:
lol ok, at which point should I run logcat - after the hang or as soon as I switch the phone on?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Daneshm90:
When u switch phone On.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vibez:
Ok here you are
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Daneshm90:
Heres ur culprit

java.lang.SecurityException: META-INF/MANIFEST.MF has invalid digest for AndroidManifest.xml

Now seems u modified the androidmanifest.xml ? If u didn't then heres my recommendation, copy over the original androidmanifest.xml from the original apk.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Apps and Games] gogatk:
i get t-mobile my touch 3g i can't send or recived any thing vis bluetooth i ex. when i opened gallery 2 send by bluetooth photo i had no option at menu called send via bluetooth or at bluetooth settings plz helppppp
[myTouch 3G, Magic Apps and Games] Binary100100:
So what rom are you using?

I have the option in CM6 gallery to share via bluetooth.
[EVO 4G General] felacio:
Would this, perhaps, apply to the SwitchPro Widget LED light as well?

I uninstalled the facebook update and was still getting some pretty ****ty battery life, I JUST pulled the switchpro LED light from it's bar and am praying that fixes my battery. I can't find anything in Spare Parts or SystemPanel on what the culprit is though, everything looks "ok"
[EVO 4G General] jaypeezee:
Are you referring to this widget ?
[EVO 4G General] opie2l:
I have used that app since the phone came out and don't have problems with battery because of it... but I did have a huge battery problem after updating.. FACTORY RESET will fix you problem
[EVO 4G General] SilverZero:
Unless you're on a custom ROM, in which case wouldn't a factory reset totally hose you?
[EVO 4G General] timtlm:
I'm not sure which LED light (with widget) I had, but I can also confirm I had terrible battery life with it. I started removing the most recent apps I installed, and that was the one.
[EVO 4G General] mrfoxhound:
Even if you're not on a Custom rom, factory reset did nothing for my battery life. It was fine until Froyo. Now it's dying and NOTHING is on. I can't see where my battery is going. I've checked all the running apps, and force stopped non essential ones. My battery is still dying very quickly. I was doing factory resets last night because Sprint was saying that if I did it would remove 2.2. I don't know who is dumber, him for telling me or me for actually doing it and believing it might.
[EVO 4G General] ccicchitelli:
It's the original version of that widget, yes
[EVO 4G General] ccicchitelli:
First and foremost, don't factory reset! That causes gremlins to come out. If you want to wipe your data, boot into recovery, wipe the cache, dalvik cache, and the user data option there.
[EVO 4G General] ccicchitelli:
Check your Up time vs Awake time in Battery under about phone in settings. If they match or are very close, you have an app causing a wake lock. Typically, you should see a big gap, like this: Up time 20:34:56, Awake time 3:30:24
[EVO 4G General] jasonrush:
I posted a topic about this too when the leaked update came out and can confirm it causes a drain. There is no need to wipe or reset anything. Just uninstall it until the dev updates it for froyo.
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] chris_knows:
I just noticed this, because I rarely call contacts through phonebook, so I'm not sure how long it's been going on, but basically, when I click on a name, nothing happens. Long press on a name brings up the menu (Call Mobile, Edit Contact, etc). If I click on "View Contact", it says:

"The application Phonebook (process.android.process.acore) has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again."

I'm on rooted R2BA024. Anyone have this problem/know how to fix it?

Thanks in advance.

EDIT: I deleted timescape when rooting, could that be the issue?

Also, I synched my contacts with Facebook, is there some way to use the display pictures from there as my contact pictures?
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] Zer0_:
Yup, the phone book is associated with Timescape, so if you've deleted that, then your phone book doesn't work.

It happened to me before too. I had to clue how to reinstall it, so i ended up reflashing the phone lol.
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] saltorio:
The easiest fix is just to install a different phonebook app from the market (such as aContacts or Phonebook 2.0). The issue lies with viewing contacts directly through the SE phonebook. I deleted Timescape and have been using aContacts with no issues whatsoever.
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] chris_knows:
I tried putting Timescape back on, but that didn't work. So I went to the market and downloaded Phonebook 2.0. It def works a lot better than the stock phonebook.

Thanks for all the help.
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] dj_divinyl123@hotmail.com:
Also looking for the best method of doing this, tried several but none seem ideal so far! :(
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] instigator008:
Try syncmypix from the market.
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] zephyrix:
This, and make sure you check off high res photos in the settings. Perfect :D
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] redemption0327:
I managed to root my mini pro. However, I tried to debrand it and the phone stopped functioning. The touchscreen will not respond (thus, it is stuck on the "Select language" page. I've noticed that the 2 big files in the Sony Update Service that was supposed to replaced, disappeared. Leading me to conclude that those files are deleted from the mini pro.

However, PC companion, PC suite does not seem to be able to fix/recognize the phone. I've spent over 4hrs searching and attempting to fix this to no avail. Please help.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Goonish:
Long shot here mate, but worth a try..

Hold Home key and the power key from a cold restart. See if it resets to default again..

Good luck I feel your pain!
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] arcatarc:
Try with "Update Service":you can download it from sony website...
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] darebak666:
Update Service will help, I also rooted my X10mini, after that I removed some apps and after reboot the device was frozen on bootanimation with no respond. I was recomended to use Update Service and it worked. It "reinstalled" whole device SW. :cool:
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] bigbrother69:
I had the same problem et I tried to solve it with SEUS but this software told me that my version is the last one and dont want to repare or install another one one my mini..(I can't see any button "repare" !)

Anyone have an idea ?:confused:

sorry for my poor english