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[Nexus One General] oklahomatulsa:
Got this in an email. Something to think about.

Google is about to cut a deal with Verizon that would end the Internet as we know it.

According to a front-page New York Times story, the deal allows “Verizon to speed some online content to Internet users more quickly if the content's creators are willing to pay for the privilege."

It would create fast Internet lanes for the largest corporations and slow lanes for the rest of us.

That’s why we’re starting a mass protest by Google users to stop these two companies from joining forces to sell out millions of people like us who use the Internet.

If Millions Join Our Call, We Can Stop this Deal: Tell Google, “Don’t Be Evil"

Google’s motto is supposed to be “Don’t Be Evil.” But this deal puts the company in bed with the devil.

From the beginning, the Internet has been a level playing field that allows everyone to connect to one another and the world of content available online -- whether it's ABC News or your cousin’s wedding video. There’s only one Internet, and it shouldn’t matter who your provider is or whether you're logging on from home or your cell phone.

This deal will change all of that, allowing Google and Verizon to pick what websites you can see over others. The result couldn't be bleaker for the future of the Internet and for free speech and independent voices online.

Founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin created Google to make information freely available to everyone online. But this deal is a complete reversal that abandons their core principles:

Sign this letter and tell Google’s founders:

“Your Verizon deal IS evil, and it must be stopped.”

It’s up to the millions of people who use Google every day to tell the company to do the right thing.

Google must walk away from this bad deal, and make sure Internet users everywhere can enjoy the entire open Internet wherever, whenever and however they want.

Thank you for taking action,

Josh Silver

President

Free Press

www.freepress.net

www.savetheinternet.com

P.S. Google and Verizon don’t make Internet policy. The FCC and Congress do. After you sign the letter, tell our public officials to step in and protect the public interest and not to be bullied by a few large corporations.
[Nexus One General] Erigion:
Already refuted by both parties.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/05/google-and-verizon-sign-net-neutrality-agreement-begin-the-end/\

Edit: Link with more info http://gizmodo.com/5605310/google-just-killed-net-neutrality
[Nexus One General] caysman:
Too much obfuscation.

Agreement should be published if companies want transparency.
[Nexus One General] C.Slater:
Sorry to get all political but is anyone surprised? We accept the rich get better health care due to money, we accept the rich get a better education due to more money and we accept because of that they get better opportunities in life because of money.....which means they generate more money and on the cycle goes. It goes without saying that the rich will end up getting a better connection due to money. It's the way of our world, unfortunately.

This isn't me defending google, btw. I hope google stick to their 'don't be evil' policy, but we live in a capitalistic world, my friends, and capitalism always widens the gap between the haves and the have-nots.
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
Still worth signing the petition anyway...just to be safe, of course. ;)
[Nexus One General] Erigion:
Do you think signing a petition will make a bit of difference? Corporations will pretty much do what they want, when they want to.

And with them all throwing billions of lobbying dollars at Congress they'll usually get their way. It's only when they all throw a big stink about something do you really know they're scared, see: the FCC trying to reclassify them so they can force net neutrality.

We'll see if Congress gives the FCC the power to do it. My guess is no.
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
So then we should all be petitioning Congress to do the right thing as well. Unlike corporations, they have to be voted into office, right? Presumably they're up for reelection at some point.
[Nexus One General] mrbkkt1:
Corporations already so this kind of stuff. I have time Warner cable for internet and can't watch espn3.
[Nexus One General] DarkDvr:
New York Times, as a prime member of rapidly decaying newspaper business, is hunting for headlines.

Google: "@NYTimes is wrong. We've not had any convos with VZN about paying for carriage of our traffic. We remain committed to an open internet."
[Nexus One General] nexusdue:
Everybody seems to agree that they were talking about this but are backing down due to the backlash.

Took Google to respond 1 day to the story? If it wasn't true, they would have responded much quicker (as they did in the past).

Obviously something needed to be coordinated with Verizon before they responded.
[Nexus One General] ksc6000:
I was very disappointed in Google when I heard this story on huffingtonpost. I hope if they are considering tiered prices, they back off. Not that they have anything but moral reasons to do so, I just hope these corporations will be forward moving rather than regressive in this case.

Net neutrality is of the utmost importance to democracy in this age when everything is digital and everything is tied to the web in one way or another. Call your representatives and raise hell about this.
[Nexus One General] diversificationied:
lol. Since when do companies want or claim to have transparency?
[Nexus One General] DarkDvr:
True, but still we should demand it, and yell and kick when we don't get it.
[Nexus One General] nexusdue:
Now we know what they talked about and it is definitely evil.

BTW - why did they lie earlier about having no such talks?
[Nexus One General] diversificationied:
Because they are a business and have assets to protect?
[Nexus One General] SeEsAw12:
Corporations can't advance without consumers. That's capitalism in a nut shell.

They do this

We don't buy

They Lose

If they want to risk it all for some extra cash, they're the ones that are going to come out on the ****ty end of the stick.
[Nexus One General] EErez:
if the plan proposed by Google and Verizon passes i swear i will do as much as possible to subvert my cellular traffic from google and its ads, including using bing, quitting my gmail, and using adblocking. this plan is pure evil and its sad that google is using its weight to pretty much privatize the internet. it might be legal and smart from a business perspective but its still evil as hell.
[Nexus One General] MaximReapage:
REALLY, you guys? Are you just reading the first post then posting? This has already been refuted; and even if it "took so long" for Google to respond, they probably figured nobody was going to take the IRL trolling of the NYTimes seriously, then only responded when they saw that someone (or several people) did.
[Nexus One General] EErez:
im not basing my statement on the first post. Google and Verizon have unveiled a plan which they would like to pass.

see here

http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/08/09/not-neutrality-did-google-verizon-just-stab-the-internet-in-the-heart/

pretty much they are saying that wired internet should stay neutral but because mobile internet is "different", carriers should be able to creat their own private webs.

another interesting article on the subject from wired talks about how its no longer in google's interest to have an open mobile web now that they almost control the market:

http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/08/why-google-became-a-carrier-humping-net-neutrality-surrender-monkey/

is that not evil?
[Nexus One General] caysman:
It is a compromise which google thinks the maximum workable.at least now one can enforce NN rules in normal internet.

The wired article is imbal.

Truly what is really evil is to force telco to invest and yet degrade their control over their own investment. Simplistic of course, but simple statements are less confusing.
[Nexus One General] samagon:
I guess my take on it is more naive, I see it as an opportunity for wireless companies to offer motr service to try and lure customers. More than just a certain phone, or a speed test result.

I mean, we're already all on someones network, before we get online. Why not make services available that make people want to use their service?

Who knows though.
[Nexus One General] xdZKu7:
This is in line with the warning we got from Erich Schmidt in the talk at Mobile World Congress. Then he said they were working to make sure that the carriers don't end up as "dumb pipes".(*)

And dumb pipes are just what they should be! Instead this "our own rules for wireless" means that carriers will be well within their rights to:

* Block google talk and other IM-apps to sell more SMS

* Block tethering without a tethering plan

* Block all other markets than e.g. "Verizon app market"

* Block VoIP calls and video

None of which reduces congestion on the air waves - it just makes it more expensive.

With LTE (4G) the last bit of technological difference between "phone calls" and internet will be erased - let's hope that the carriers follows suit and considers themselves as ISPs.

On a side note here I'd like to add that the carriers in the US and UK are far less ISP-ish than the carriers here in Scandinavia in terms of usage restrictions.

(*) 0:39:30 - 0:44:30

(*) esp: 0:43:00 - 0:44:30

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[Nexus One General] nexusdue:
Really? Did you bother to read any postings except the first two?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stilv:
no matter what rom i use, the evo go on and freaks out just like someone else pushing buttons ... this making my evo useless

any fix?
[HD2 General] likwid25:
Ok i used Duttys Disable Current Location cab to get rid of my location but its still showing up on the home screen but not under weather.. does anyone know how to change this so the city i have the weather set up for actually shows on the home screen..????
[HD2 General] sumflipnol:
Press the clock on the Home Tab to get to the World Clock. Select your city. Your Home Tab should now show the weather of the city, rather than My Location.
[HD2 General] ceh01:
my city could not be choosed

Hello,

any clue if my location is not in the list of citys?

Soemtimes I visit other towns and want to add them permamently to the lis ...

ceh
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] robseargeant:
Is there a cab available for this. Nothing came up for it in the search. I would like to try it on the New AT&T ROM>
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Miami_Son:
What does it do? What is ICR?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] robseargeant:
In Call Recording. I know there is a ACR .cab made by a XDA that records all calls. I want to try the HTC one on this ROM though.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Miami_Son:
Ahh, here's ACR if you want it.;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] huggs:
This ICR works for me. Install to device and saves to device/my documents/notes

In a call just hit menu/record and it starts recording
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] robseargeant:
It does not save in a compressed format or on Card.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Miami_Son:
Yeah, that turned me off, too. Don't want uncompressed audio chewing up tons of my device storage.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] robseargeant:
In the Energy ROM thread they theorized that the Leo ICR cab won't install because it is only compatible with some dialers. Hence why it works in some Energy releases and not others. Sometime when I have more time on my hands I may try some dialers with the cab and see.
[Captivate General] niw559:
1st off i have been using WM since WM2003 on the MPX220 then went to the apache then touch pro and really like WM. but I figured the awsome hardware for the android phones would be worth checking out as i dont see anything for WM coming in the near future. let the Captivate testing begin.

rooted and figured out how to get my contacts off outlook to google account.

got wifi tether. but as i have been comparing this phone to the iphone 4 jailbroke. i feel i am sadly going to change my alegance from WM to android to Apple OS =(

samsung captivate( galaxy s)

beautiful screen.

better speaker

better cpu

better gpu (no games to show it)

Iphone

gps

better camera

better speed test (compared side by side multipule times)

higher dpi screen

more apps

better apps

more games

better games

led flash light

video chat

net flix

better app market

equal

battery life

internet browser IMO
[Captivate General] accinfo:
But yeah, the Captivate is crap go back to your iphone :]
[Captivate General] k2snowboards88:
That seems very uncalled for.

I am coming from the iphone and I'm starting to agree with the OP. If it wasn't for the terrible customer service experiences I've had with apple, I would be considering moving to the iphone 4 too. If samsung doesn't fix the stalling and gps issues soon, I'm not sure what I'll do.
[Captivate General] niw559:
im trying to fight the urg...

also the captivate speaker phone is better.... but i phone has netflix with jailbreak.
[Captivate General] sn1per420:
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/06/30/netflix-hiring-android-developers-client-on-the-way/

Netflix is making an Android app
[Captivate General] niw559:
im giving this phone and androinfd another week to mess with and compare
[Captivate General] smeltn:
I was a huge iPhone fanboi and have LOVED my iphone 3Gs and iPad, but I must say with the problems with the iPhone4, I decided to get the Captivate instead and can't be happier. The phone is great out of the box, but you know what, I LOVE tinkering with stuff (I am an IT Manager for a major clothing manufacturer) and playing with computers is my job, and I have to say I LOVE the freedom and ability to be able to do what I want to with this phone and make it look and act like anything.
[Captivate General] k2snowboards88:
I just remembered why I'm not going back to the iphone. Dropped calls. I haven't had any since getting rid of my iphone until just now . A call dropped between my captivate and friend's iphone 4. I love not dropping every third call like I used to. People love to make fun of att for their "crappy network", but I've never had a problem with them except when I owned an iphone.
[Captivate General] niw559:
are you refering to the dropped calls due to holding the phone with out a case? because i havent had a dropped call on it so just curious.
[Captivate General] k2snowboards88:
I'm referring to iphones having very high dropped call rates in general.
[Captivate General] matthewpapa:
As far as the lack of apps goes id be a little patient. Android is growing fast, and apple has had their app store quite a bit longer and has had a larger dev base in the past. Before long enough devs will be on board android to equalize.

I must say that if the ip4 remains att exclusive apple ia going to get steamrolled in the next year or so just by the sheet weight in numbers
[Captivate General] smashpunks:
Awesome.. I hope your iPhone 4 does you well...
[Captivate General] niw559:
me and the wife only experienced dropped calls with out the case due to external antenna case

at any-rate i am going to switch now the side by side speed test comparisons are un believable

reboot both phones

open speed test app

set side by side and run

captivate 115 kbs down 45 kbs up

iphone4 1.25mbs down 50 kbs up
[Captivate General] niw559:
im actually using my htc raphiel(fuze) as my main phone
[Captivate General] max_warheads:
HSUPA vs HSDPA v 3G etc etc... The captivate is capable as the radio supports it, but the stock rom got a chop somewhere in the line. We (XDA) are working on fixing that easily.
[Captivate General] k2snowboards88:
There is something wrong with your captivate if you are getting such poor download speeds. I didn't test upload speeds but I just got 946kbps down with two bats of coverage.

Hsupa doesn't affect download speeds.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kftgr:
Got 2.2 from the latest OTA and have been encountering some video issues. Just wondering if anyone else has them, and if there are fixes.

The major issue I have is videos lag and stutter. With 2.1, 720p videos recorded from the rear camera worked flawlessly. Now, those videos have short stuttering pauses every second. It makes it very hard to watch. 480p videos do not exhibit this problem.

Is it because the data is not being streamed off the SD card quick enough? Some evidence to that is that the thumbnails in the Gallery take noticeably longer to show up.

In 2.1, when I long press on a video in Gallery and select Details, it would show resolution and framerate. This info is not present in the current Gallery. Is there a fix for that?

I'm particularly interested in framerate, because in 2.1, I noticed that videos would be recorded at low fps when the lighting was dark. (some vids I have even dropped to 10 fps!) Perhaps HTC couldn't fix the low fps recording problem and instead just swept it under the run by not displaying the framerate info at all. :(

Videos played through Rockplayer worked fine in 2.1. Now, the audio is just loud static. Is this related to the codec change in 2.2?

When I come across a .3gp video file with Astro, clicking on it will come up with a "3gp file type missing" message. A workaround of longpress-> open will open it, though.
[Captivate General] nammyczc:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=743506

I was wondering if anybody was willing to try this on their captivate and see if it worked for us or any dev's willing to try and port this over to our side.

seems to be working fairly well for them

edit: their hitting 1400+ Quadrant scores and all functions work on their phone from what I see

UPDATE 3:

Tutorial:

-1. Download VibrantDeodexed.zip from thread posted.

1a. Flash stock Odin3 rom. (For the Captivate).

1b. Root

2. Download ROM Manager from Market.

3. FlashClockworkRecovery for Captivate in ROM Manager.

4. Transfer the VibrantDeodexed.zip to /sdcard/ root.

MAKE SURE YOUR ext3 PARTITIONED SDCARD IS INSERTED

5. Reboot to Recovery (in ROM Manager)

6. Install zip from sdcard>choose zip>VibrantDeodexed.zip

7. After it finishes, reboot and be patient. The initial startup takes some time...

Added Fortune090 instructions on how to get this on our captivates. KUDOS to him for testing it out for us :)

Please note this is still very EARLY and major problems could happen if you do this wrong.

We're not responsible. This is beta

UPDATE 4: I updated the tutorial to a more extensive one, but there is another thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=747397

that is more promising, no gps problem. Waiting for an update version for easier install
[Captivate General] Fortune090:
The Captivate and Vibrant function completely differently as far as those speed fixes go.

Read this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=740747

I was hitting around 1800 in Quadrant, but the fix wasn't showing any real-world speed increases, and had some bad issues regarding the mic and voice calls, along with wake up lag.

I'm not saying this won't work, but I'm assuming it won't work well or function the same way...

EDIT: Guess I can try it though, seeing as no one else has. Glad my phone's finally communicating with Odin properly so I don't have to worry about the brick I did before... I'll update with any issues.

UPDATE1: Rebooted into recovery and tried to reinstall packages to install the update, and it failed. Trying another one of the methods described to see if they'll work.

UPDATE2: Got it installed (I think), but it seemed to go way too fast and kept going between recovery and rommanager. Phone's loaded and it's running Quadrant now to see if there's any change.... Didn't think so. Still getting in the 900's. Time to continue trying... haha. I originally used Clockwork for Captivate, so that could have been the problem trying Vibrant to see if that'll make a difference...
[Captivate General] nammyczc:
thanks for the try, I guess we'll just have to wait until something more substantial gets worked up for our side
[Captivate General] Fortune090:
I'm guessing that you'd have to flash the Vibrant ROM first, and I've known that's caused issues for Captivate users. I'm still trying with the Captivate stock Odin ROM though... Will definitely post if I have any success...

EDIT: I actually think I found my mistake... hold on...

EDIT2: Yes... definitely was a dumb mistake. It's copying the files now. Waiting for it to boot. :D Was told it takes awhile for the initial boot...

UPDATE: Ok, everything booted up fine, and I can tell this is the Vibrant ROM. The speed fix wasn't applied though. Might be because my external is partitioned with ext4. Could that be the problem? I didn't see any script load that didn't before...

UPDATE2: Reformatted my external to ext3 and got results!!! Quadrant got to 1446! Time to check some real world applications now. (phone call, bluetooth, I know wi-fi works, etc) I'll update with news. ;)
[Captivate General] asrrin29:
Keep us updated. I don't know if the ROM includes the radio firmware, so make sure to have the stock captivate radio.
[Captivate General] madjsp:
I'd love to see a speedtest.net to see if HSUPA works correctly!
[Captivate General] Fortune090:
Ok wow. I'm impressed. I'm seeing actual speed increases and so far everything is working perfect. No wake up lag, no static in phone calls, Quadrant scores are way up, plus you get some of the advantages of the Vibrant rom without having to flash it. (ie. OPTION to allow non-market apps, unlocked Market...)

So far it's a thumbs up all the way!

Tutorial:

1. Flash stock Odin rom (For the Captivate).

2. Download ROM Manager from Market.

3. Install the Captivate Clockwork for Captivate

4. Transfer the VibrantUpdate.zip to /sdcard/ root.

MAKE SURE YOUR ext3 PARTITIONED CARD IS INSERTED

5. Reboot to Recovery (in RM)

6. Install zip from sdcard>choose zip>VibrantUpdate.zip

7. After it finishes, reboot and be patient. The initial startup takes some time...

8. ENJOY! :D

Currently working on getting rid of the T-Mobile startups and shutdowns, but that takes no time at all. Thanks for this!!!

EDIT: Problem. GPS no longer functions at all from what I'm seeing. When using my location in Maps, the application freezes... Going to check the *#*#1472365#*#* settings to see if anything there's causing the problem...
[Captivate General] Fortune090:
Did a speed test...

1898 dl

341 ul

Is that HSUPA ratings or standard? I'm not sure...
[Captivate General] Fortune090:
Sorry for the triple post, but another thing I noticed... Titanium Backup is not recognizing all of the T-Mo bloatware or ANY of the installed applications... Anyone have any idea why?

Also, Swype FC's after about 3 seconds, but I'm assuming a reinstall will solve the problem... Haven't checked quite yet. Still testing a bunch of things.

EDIT: TB problem solved. Go to Problems? from the main menu, Yes do it. Everything showed up after it updated BusyBox. :D

Still trying to figure out the GPS problem...
[Captivate General] mykenyc:
I believe you have to click on "problems?" in T.B , its the middle button on the main screen i believe it say problems or in the menu
[Captivate General] Fortune090:
Yeah, got it. ;)

GPS, GPS, GPS...

Changed the settings in the 1472365 menu, and nothing worked. Anything that involves GPS crashes the second you tell it to use it. Phone doesn't freeze though.

QUICK: Can someone post the STOCK shutdown files? Sound: /system/media/audio/ui/shutdown.ogg Video (folder of .pngs): /system/media/shutdown

Would be greatly appreciated. :D Want to get rid of the T-mo branding the update applied...
[Captivate General] nammyczc:
WOW, I'm amazed that it works, thats great to here there have been little problems except GPS function. It could be the drivers for vibrant are different for captivate? I'm not really sure I dont know much software but that seems like the most basic explanation I can think of.

EDIT: Did you try deleting the GPS data and starting over from scratch? or gps test from the market? its possible that GPS just needs to reset itself? or something...