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[EVO 4G Android Development] T Mac:
4G?...I don't have it anywhere close, HDMI, what good?, and FM radio<Pandora. Nuff said. Battery life>very important.

I do agree though with the 4G. When it is available to my city, I will be making my way back to Fresh...maybe. I'm not 100% sure that the faster speed is worth horid battery life. 3G does me just fine. Wifi is very fast when and if I need that.

The Evo to me was definately not related to 4G though. It was all about the great hardware that it carries inside and the awesome touchscreen. 4G(hardly available to anyone), HDMI(that isn't even fully working), and FM radio(with headphones only and poor reception)....blah, blah, blah.
[EVO 4G Android Development] specv:
If you strip out sense and run ADW or launcher pro, and cleanup any other non-required services you will probably find the battery life and speed is near the same.

I am running a sense-less Fresh with LP, a customer OC'd toast kernal and it is pretty snappy. And I can still use 4g which I just recently started picking up.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Reliablesand:
How are you running without Sense? Is it another Rom customization or does Fresh let you turn off Sense and keep it off? (an ability HTC took away with their 1.47 ota)

I like launcher pro, but when I ran it in stock 2.2 and baked snack 1.5 sense would never stay off and continue running in the background, which I assumed mean the phone's was tasked with more than one launcher which consequently drained my battery. Does Fresh Rom keep sense off if you run launcher pro instead?
[EVO 4G Android Development] thethirdmurph:
I updated to the latest fresh and then I had the crackle problem with my speaker. Did a nandroid back up of my fresh rom loaded a stock rom so I could take it back to sprint. After they fixed the speaker I tried to restore the fresh rom and it just kept bootlooping. anyone else experiences this?
[EVO 4G Android Development] JOEOZUNA4U:
delete sense/widgets/weather/rosie and htc apps with titanium back up and you got yourself a senless rom....make sure you dnt delete FRIEND STREAM or you will have some sync problems ..
[EVO 4G Android Development] brol1k:
Where do I donate to, so I can get the beta Rom. First time running this Rom and love it so far.

Tapatalk'd on Evo
[EVO 4G Android Development] jminor4326:
G-mail Forced Close

I've been getting this error message and don't know how to fix it: "SORRY! The application Gmail (process com.google.android.gm) has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again. Force Close" I've been getting it lately when I go in or out of programs, not necessarily gmail. I am unable to use standard google gmail widget ot app. I would guess I have a corrupt file?? I've used Titanium Market Doctor and Rom Manager Fix Permissions. How do I fix it and where can I find the program? thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] Andrell:
It seems that 'rosie rotate'/'rosie landscape' under the tweaks section of fresh updater is no longer in the ROM tweaks. However the removal is not mentioned in any changelog I can find.

Is this missing from everyone else's Fresh Updater? Does anyone have the rosie landscape file or know of another method to enable it?
[EVO 4G Android Development] jmanley69:
from command line

adb remount
adb rm /system/app/Rosie.apk
adb reboot

You'll want to go in and remove all the widgets too... but that really needs to be cleaned out by hand (I'm not going to give you a command like rm /system/app/* because I don't want any responsibility when you delete the wrong thing and ask how to get the stuff back).
[EVO 4G Android Development] SilentSummer:
I have been removing Friend Stream for quite a few versions of Fresh now and have no sync issues. That issues used to occur in the past though.
[EVO 4G Android Development] thenewguy821:
Sorry I missed this... As soon as you get the confirmation on the donate screen, it has a link to return to developers site. It MAY redirect you itself... Either way, once it sends you there, the link for 3.2 will be available.

Enjoy.
[EVO 4G Android Development] JOEOZUNA4U:
i believe it still happens if you have facebook even in other roms .... i never delete it just to be safe :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] Reliablesand:
I assume it would just be a matter of flashing either fresh or stock 2.2 Rom or restoring from a nandroid backup.

In regards to launcher pro and sense running at the same time, would that drain battery more?

And another question, are people running fresh 3.1.02 and netarchy's fps kernel? Anyone run it at one time and find any problems, namely battery drain?
[EVO 4G Android Development] teshxx:
anyone have problems signing into twitter via peep ?? on fresh 3.2
[EVO 4G Android Development] jmanley69:
I can't say from absolute 100% knowledge... but my answer is YES. If you look at the cool program called Autostarts... you'll see that Rosie (and all those widgets) get notifications from the OS everytime certain events happen (like updates to the homescreen and so on). So..... the way it seems to me is that when you have to notify a program that something happened, the program has to be loaded (even if for every so briefly an amount of time) and therefore takes clock cycles and that uses CPU and that uses battery. Even if the app doesn't have to be loaded, the OS would need to see that the app is supposed to get a notification, go out and find out if it's running, then decide if/when/how to notify the app... blah blah blah... clock cycles = CPU usage = battery usage.

I noticed on my Hero that removing Rosie and the widgets and using Autostarts to limit the notifications to apps... my phone SCREAMED and used far far far less battery than it did with all that stuff just being on my phone (even though I wasn't technically using it).

Try for yourself... you can always undo by restoring a backup.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bobr0949:
Andrell please don't shout. Normal fonts would be nice.
[EVO 4G Android Development] thatdude:
Wondering if I am the only one having issues connecting to twitter using Fresh 3.2 w/ different twitter apps.
[EVO 4G Android Development] BAttitude7689:
Do you still get good battery life while running fresh 3.2.0.0 and having 4.1.8 CFS fresh compatible kernel? or is the badd a$$ battery life only with the newest stock kernel that comes with fresh 3.2.0.0
[EVO 4G Android Development] Andrell:
I can appreciate your request but I respectfully decline. After 3 days of posting and 2 days of PMing the Dev with no response from anyone, I am out of patience and will be repeating the post... often.:(

It seems that 'rosie rotate'/'rosie landscape' under the tweaks section of fresh updater is no longer in the ROM tweaks. However the removal is not mentioned in any changelog I can find.

Is this missing from everyone else's Fresh Updater? Does anyone have the rosie landscape file or know of another method to enable it?
[EVO 4G Android Development] smw6180:
You should maybe check if anyone knows what's up before being obnoxious.

From his donor email in regards to the 3.2.0.0 beta:

Not to mention the fact that your impatience doesn't matter and I highly doubt it means anything to the developer. People who ***** and moan because they can't get answers about their free software drive me nuts. Have a little respect.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Biofall:
Why don't you search for it on the thread, then google (if you haven't), then post a Q and A thread about it?
[EVO 4G Android Development] StormCell:
I checked under info but am not sure what I'm looking for to find this. Can you help? Thanks.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Reliablesand:
I don't see it in the section either so it may have been taken down.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jmanley69:
First of all... just because people don't answer you right away is no reason to be obnoxious. sometimes it means that nobody has the answer yet or at least the person that may know the answer hasn't read your posts yet. This thread is filled with pages of people discussing inane subjects like how a battery charges and hundreds of pages of people asking questions that were answered in release notes and/or previously in the thread.

If you wanted to do a little research on your own, you'd see that Flipz states in the release notes for 3.1.0.1 and 3.0.0.4 that 270 rotation is native from HTC so it was removed from his ROMs.

http://geekfor.me/new-release/fresh-evo-3101/

If you wanted to search a little more on the thread, you might find that Rosie doesn't rotate (at least not with the native rotation from HTC and since Flipz removed the rotate function when HTC made rotate native then Rosie doesn't rotate).

If you wanted to search on the forum, you might find that other ROMs might have a rotate that you'd like.

Or, remove Rosie and use Launcher Pro which rotates just fine.
[EVO 4G Android Development] akarol:
Sigh... I knew I should have stuck with 3.1.0.2.

For some reason, I keep getting an incorrect username and/or password when logging in to Peep (yes, I am using the correct information).

Also, I cannot install the FM Radio.apk from the Fresh Removed APKs folder.
[EVO 4G Android Development] thatdude:
That's what I been trying to figure out why I can't connect. I also have the same issue with other Twitter app.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Reliablesand:
I went ahead and looked through titanium backup and saw a lot of different HTC items. I saw some of the obvious ones like HTC Sense, rosie.apk, and a few apps, but I also saw some other HTC related items that I wasn't sure about removing. Namely stiff like "com.htc.2.2" or "com.htc.provider.settings" and other stuff like this. Am I not to just delete every HTC related item? I ask full well knowing this could be a really stupid question.

EDIT:

Thinking about it more couldn't I achieve the same effect by primarily removing rosie and sense? The "effect" being the ability to use launcher pro without sense booting up in the background and drawing extra battery life?
[EVO 4G Android Development] cds36:
im a little confused isn't kings kernel using the same kernel in fresh 3.2 ? 2.6.32.15? or am i missing something
[EVO 4G Android Development] smw6180:
Yes, but he's implemented things in that kernel (OC, HAVS, UV) that aren't in the stock kernel.

Contrariwise, the stock kernel that comes with Fresh 3.2 has some battery life tweaks and probably other tweaks I don't know about.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Andrell:
I know that rosie doesn't rotate, by default. But it can (or at least could) be enabled according to Fresh release notes. Now I just want to know where I can find that enabler.

If it is not possible, that is just as suitable an answer to me. But no answer is not a suitable response.

Does anyone have a clue where to install and enable rosie rotater?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Biofall:
Yes it is. The number I had posted in my sig was the OTA update number.

Someone needs a new PRI though, lol
[EVO 4G Android Development] jmanley69:
I think I remove peep so I can't comment on that but Twitter for android works just fine for me. Did you wipe EVERYTHING? Cache data factory ext? Before flashing the ROM? And NOT use titanium or any other backup or restore?

As for FM radio... actually copy it into /system/app don't click on it to install.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Biofall:
Listen man. I understand you may be frustrated, as I would be if my question wasn't answered, but that doesn't give you any excuse to be rude. Just because you post a question on the internet doesn't mean anyone is obliged to answer it.

The long ranting where you quote everyone and then bash them, whatever your reason, WILL NOT get anyone to help you. Promise. In response to what you said, the people in this thread are not the "experts" or whatever you called them. Maybe some are, but I'll be blunt and restate my first suggestion. If you couldn't get an answer here, move on and post the question in the Q and A. This isn't a ROM specific feature (by that I mean just because the ROM is Fresh doesn't mean that someone using another ROM can't help) so go post a question.

Oh and no one cares what your post count is, so yeah...

If you want results in anything you do, badgering people because they don't know the answer to your question won't get you anything. Do you think people are purposely ignoring you?

They probably are now
[EVO 4G Android Development] akarol:
Yes sir, I wiped everything 2 times (ncluding battery and rotate stats). I'm pretty anal about that stuff (hence the delay in jumping into 3.2.0.0).

All I used was AppBrain to restore my apps.

I liked the simplicity of Peep. Anyone else having issues logging into it? I don't know how the ROM can affect that.

Also, when trying to copy HtcFMRadio.apk to /system/ using ES File Explorer, I get a "HtcFMRadio.apk copy failed." message. :(
[EVO 4G Android Development] akarol:
No new PRI in Orlando, FL. :(

I hear more bad things about it then good anyways. I might stick to 1.34 as long as I can.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Biofall:
what bad things are you hearing about an updated PRI? You know that Sprint's service tower hardware is configured to work with the newer PRI, and an older one can't really have anything on a newer one.
[EVO 4G Android Development] koricua74:
Wow; I didn't want to quote everything! Rosie rotate was a mod that flipz included in this version of Fresh http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=7194627&postcount=1 available here http://geekfor.me/new-release/fresh-evo-101/ you can probably start there and see what was modified to enable the 270 degree Rosie rotation.

Since no ROM here suits your WANTS then I suggest you read this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=633246 and create your own that includes a ROSIE THAT ROTATES
[EVO 4G Android Development] akarol:
Anyone able to log into Peep.

Anyone able to install the FM Radio .apk from the Fresh Removed Apks folder?

If so, please explain how you did it.

Thanks!
[EVO 4G Android Development] SilentSummer:
I use Sense FB and the FB app, still no issue with removing Friend Stream. :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] Andrell:
Thank you for the help! It doesn't touch on this 3.1.0.2 ROM (which was the root of my question), but thank you nonetheless.
[EVO 4G Android Development] SilentSummer:
I didn't catch your whole issue, but I did see someone post that they can't enable rotation.

If you checked setting/Display and rotate is on, make sure you also check your launcher settings.

Drove me crazy for a day that I couldn't get rotate working and noticed ADW launcher setting was disabled for this.
[EVO 4G Android Development] akarol:
Can everyone stop the bickering and get back on-topic...

I still need help with logging in to Peep and installing the FM Radio .apk.

Thanks in advance!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Cache22:
I can't help you with peep since I have never used it, however the FM Radio question has already been answered, if you are having permissions problems copying the apk file then try using adb to copy it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] JOEOZUNA4U:
cool im going to give it a try :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] Andrell:
Thank you :) Did you get homescreen rotation working?!?
[EVO 4G Android Development] AnotherXDA:
Just a quick report. I got 3.2.0.0 installed over the weekend and I'm experiencing outrageous battery life. I could go 3 days until bottoming out on battery power! I'm a lite user, but it'd be conservative for me to say I'm seeing 20% improved battery life with this version.

Thanks!
[EVO 4G Android Development] thatdude:
I was unable to log into Peep using Fresh 3.2. I assumed it was Fresh 3.2 ROM issue, so I reverted back to stock Sprint ROM to find out if it was and it's not. I am having the same issue with stock Sprint ROM. Also this issue is going around on different forums regarding HTC Peep. So have a peace of mind that is not a Fresh ROM issue.
[EVO 4G Android Development] SilentSummer:
Yup 270 all the way around.
[EVO 4G Android Development] akarol:
What are the exact commands to accomplish this?

When I try to do...

mv /sdcard/fresh-removed-apks-3/HtcFMRadio.apk /system/

...I get a message saying no file name or directory.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Andrell:
Can you do this with just barebones Fresh+Sense without Launcherpro or another homescreen replacement? How?
[EVO 4G Android Development] ejittles:
You have to remount the /system partition as RW. You can do this one of two ways:

adb remount

or from the shell:

mount -o remount,rw /dev/block/mtdblock4 /system

Then you have to copy the APK into the right folder which is:

/system/app

So try:

cp /sdcard/fresh-removed-apks-3/HtcFMRadio.apk /system/app
[EVO 4G Android Development] dec3ption:
Do you guys recommend running King's #8 kernel with fresh 3.2 or sticking with the one that comes with the ROM?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Biofall:
Sticking with what comes with it is what's generally recommended for battery life.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dec3ption:
Thanks! That's what I think I'm going to do!
[EVO 4G Android Development] jmanley69:
drop to command

adb remount
adb shell cp /sdcard/fresh-removed-apks-3/HtcFMRadio.apk /system/app

notice that you're putting it in /system/app not /system I'm pretty sure in my first post, I put /system/app and not /system.

also, you have to remount system as rw first

I'll go ahead and reinstall peep and see if I can replicate your problem with that. Is there a reason you don't like the other Twitter that Flipz gives you?
[EVO 4G Android Development] jmanley69:
Your problem has nothing to do with this ROM... it has everything to do with Twitter and Peep

http://androinica.com/2010/08/31/htc-peepfriendstream-down-because-of-oauth/

http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/never_hand_out_your_password_again_twitter_goes_oa.php

Sometimes a quick Google search can answer a lot of questions instead of getting frustrated with the people in the forums not answering right away and instead of blaming the ROM devs.

You'll have to either use Twitter for Android or wait until HTC comes out with an update to Peep.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cadbomb:
Things are getting better and better. For those of you running Fresh Evo 3.2, is the kernel version newer than the previous update? I'm assuming that if so, this is what is responsible for the battery increase?
[EVO 4G Android Development] wacky.banana:
Mod Warning

All,

I have been to this thread 3 times today to clean and tidy up some posts which were way off topic.

I really would appreciate it if you could all stay on topic, help people out where you can without resorting to "smart" remarks and generally get along in line with the forum rules, which you should all be aware of.

Please do your bit to keep this thread friendly and on track.

WB
[EVO 4G Android Development] akarol:
Will remounting the systems folder affect anything else? Seems risky to make that folder writeable. Besides, why wasn't that done in the first place? Never had this issue with his other versions.

Also, what other Twitter program are you talking about? I don't see anything other than Peep in this ROM.

Good to know it's not the ROM that's having issues. :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] teshxx:
Can anyone plz post the latest peep apk n the peep widget apk. Thanx.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Cache22:
The system folders are still read-only by default, but by having the phone rooted, you are able to temporarily assume write permissions as the user. The key here is temporarily, if you go back in later with whatever application you are using (Root Explorer, etc), the system areas will be read-only to you again unless you specifically remount as r/w again. As far as not having this issue with other versions, some of the removed apks would install in the user data area which is already writable, and anything installed from a patch via recovery boot has full permissions. Mix that with the various changes between ROM versions and some people have to copy apk's over as root more than others.

As far as Twitter, I'm sure he's referring to either an official client or another third party twitter client, search the market and I'm sure something will come up. (I don't use twitter on the phone, so I haven't actually tried any Twitter apps so I can't help on that.)
[EVO 4G Android Development] jmanley69:
All you have to do is

adb reboot

when you're done and it'll automatically become read only. Yes.... there is a security risk there for a moment, but if you're running Fresh ROM then you'll get a "Superuser" prompt if some app tries to get SU privileges (which is still needed to write into /system even if it's mounted rw)

As for the other Twitter.... When I installed this ROM, there's a "Twitter" app already installed (I think - I may have installed it from the market but I'm not sure) Here's the AppBrain link http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.twitter.android but it seems perfect for my needs - maybe you'll like it too. At least until HTC comes out with a Peep update.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dmc971989:
can anyone help me get this *phone working before i throw it out a window

this is my fathers phone btw

with android 2.1 exchange worked fine except the contacts would not sync

now with 2.2 I keep getting: failed to connect to the exchange server. please check exchange server settings

ive used every setting/configuration under the book and it just will not connect, at all

has anyone else had issues with this since moving to 2.2?
[EVO 4G Android Development] jmanley69:
First of all watch the language.

If you're using a fresh ROM then do a full wipe and flash and do NOT use ANY backup/restore programs.

Setup Google and only Google on the first boot (as explained in the release notes) then after it's setup and you have the homescreenyou can add your other accounts.

Exchange works fine on this ROM.

If you're not using fresh ROM then don't post in this thread.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dmc971989:
if you feel my cursing is unnecessary then im sorry... this phone is pretty frustrating

this is using fresh 3.2.0

exchange is absolutely not working for me... i have been using fresh since his hero days for my dads phone (I run CM6)

and have never had this problem untill the jump to 2.2

also, other programs (such as touchdown)

work fine, its just the native support from sense that will not connect
[EVO 4G Android Development] jmanley69:
Again. Do a full wipe... ext data factory cache everything. Follow the instructions I outline which are also in the release notes.

Exchange works fine with this ROM.

There is also the possibility that your exchange server is having a problem... expired ssl.... temporary down time... router issues etc.

Exchange works fine on a fresh install of this ROM
[EVO 4G Android Development] dmc971989:
all of those things have already been done... ive wiped/re installed using the instructions from the site multiple times

again, it may work for most but it deff isnt working for me right now

like i said, i dont think its a problem with the sever because it works fine with 3rd party applications such as Touchdown
[EVO 4G Android Development] Noxious Ninja:
Have you tried it with the stock ROM just to see if that works?
[EVO 4G Android Development] dmc971989:
thats going to be the next step at this point... its just getting annoying because i make a special trip (1 hour away) to work on this damned phone and it still wont work

and now ive got to head home since ive got to be at work in 6 hours

so im going to have to make another trip out here within the next day or so
[EVO 4G Android Development] jmanley69:
Seriously! Watch the language! This thread has already felt the wrath of the moderators 3 times today. Cursing does not help you get answers.

Trying stock ROM should have been one of your first troubleshooting steps before blaming the ROM.

If you're not going to take our help and suggestions then there us nothing we can do to help you.

It sounds like one of 3 things is going on.

1) you are using titanium backup or some other backup/ restore program and you've restored your settings. - don't do this.

2) you didn't do what i suggested and follow the steps exactly as I outlined

3) there is something wrong with your corporate setup or personal network
[EVO 4G Android Development] BAttitude7689:
Here are my stats....

That's with 14% battery left