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[Desire General] tuatha:
Channel works fine here.

Third time's a charm, maybe. I didn't do anything special to get the wi-fi working, anyway. Just selected reboot in recovery from the rom manager menu, selected factory reset and then installed the modaco rom.

I didn't use the deodexed rom, but I don't see what difference that would make... ieftm wasn't deodexed either, and I had the wi-fi issue on that one.

Wireless N and openVPN are the only differences between ieftm and Modaco.
[Desire General] andycted:
Could well be that some power saving features of the new 2.2 rom aren't well received by my router and maybe that WiFi N patch made these power saving features more aggressive...

Will try again right now to flash, stay tuned

[edit] writing system partition right nowù

[edit] aaaargh ! wasn't the bootscreen sound supposed to be softer after the update ? It made me jump through the roof
[Desire General] andycted:
Ok, tried again, this time:

- rebooted in recovery

- performed a nandroid backup

- cleaned cache

- cleaned data/factory reset

- flashed zip from the first link of the plain OTA modaco rom (no deodexed, with radio)

- rebooted, it installed the radio ok

- added my google account, downloaded xiialive

- turned on wifi, connected to my router

- started xiialive, inserted manually the accujazz link (in order not to restore titanium backups)

- started playing with wifi on, screen off -> stopped after 3 minutes

- started playing again wifi on, screen on, 30 minutes timeout -> still playing after 5 minutes

- turned off screen manually and 30 seconds later, the connection dropped

- started playing again, screen on + wifi -> played for 5 more minutes

- turned off screen manually 90 seconds ago and it just stopped playing...

At least I don't have to change rom, since it doesn't work for me... hehe

[last edit] it might well have something to do with my router and/or connection. Playback sometimes (rarely) stops even if screen is on, but after maybe 5 to 10 minutes, while with screen off it only takes a couple of minutes at most.
[Desire General] tuatha:
Very strange, that's exactly the procedure I followed and I have no problems whatsoever. whether I switch it off manually or let it go idle on its own, it just keeps on streaming.

Sorry it didn't work for you, after putting up with it for two weeks I know how frustrating it is.

Would be interested to see if it works for anybody else who has this issue.

As a reference for anybody else who's reading this, I'm using the odexed Modaco rom with the radio, linked to on the previous page.

Software details are as follows:

Android version: 2.2

Baseband version: 32.43.00.32U_5.09.00.20

Kernel version: 2.6.32.15-gf9c0527 htc-kernel@and18-2 #1

Build number: 2.09.405.8 CL218634 release-keys

Software number: 2.09.405.8
[Desire General] andycted:
No problem, it actually isn't a big issue since when I'm on WiFi, I'm usually plugged in AC (at home).

Would be also more than curious if someone else has the same experience and also if (in my case) it's the whole phone that sleeps or just the wifi that gets powered/throttled down....however since it's a 64 kbps stream, I guess it's not throttling the issue here.

[EDIT] maybe you could change the title of the thread from "last.fm" to "music streaming" to see if someone else checks in and reports
[Desire General] tuatha:
yeah, will do.

64kbps streams were working for me even when I had the wi-fi issue. So, yeah... you might have a whole other issue here.
[Desire General] chiefmcbeef:
I noticed this exact issue yesterday when I decided to fire up last.fm for the first time in ages. Now running OTA Froyo with Sense unrooted.

I did notice the track was loading and then not download anymore, the marker would move along the timebar and catchup to the point where the download had got to and then last.fm would skip to next track and the same thing would repeat.

:/
[Desire General] tuatha:
So you're experiencing this issue on an OTA unrooted, unmodified rom? And, just to check, it's only happening when the screen is off/phone is idle?

If so, that's very confusing.
[Desire General] andycted:
There is definitely something going on, which could also be related to my case. In my case xiialive would seemingly keep playing, i.e. it won't tell me that it's disconnected and the music stopped, but actually no music will play anymore.

There are four cases to test:

- on 3G - should go ok

- on WiFi - screen on - should go ok

- on WiFi - screen off, but plugged in - should go ok

- on WiFi - screen off, unplugged - disconnects in 2 minutes or less

I think it's all part of a wifi power management, maybe under different forms depending on the router, the connection quality and the streaming service.
[Desire General] andycted:
Ok it has definitely something to do with the new update.

I'm testing on WiFi, plugged in, screen on to stream some high bitrate music and it constantly fails after about one minute or two. Turn the screen off and unplug, it fails after just some seconds. At this point I'm suspecting that - while the quality of the signal and of my router are probably to be taken into account - there is something wrong with the update, since this wasn't happening before.

It might just be that wifi gets powered down enough to lose the already not-so-good connection. This probably happens even more with the WiFi N patch, but it's enough for my weak signal to drop.

And the funny thing is that on 3G it works perfectly, without even stuttering...
[Desire General] Seronez:
1.It seems that this issue only occurs if you've got an Mac Adress starting with 38:E7

2. I had this issue also on 2.1 unrooted HTC Sense Rom..now rooted 2.2 HTC Sense Rom and it's there again

3. It goes this far that nearly every app expect of the Browser isn't able to wake up my wifi even if i use the phone some apps have connection problems with wifi on so i have to start the browser to bring wifi back every time...

4. If i turn off the screen wifi is immediately in sleep mode plugged in or not doesen't matter -> screen on and no Problem at streaming music

5. Back when i used 2.1 Original unrooted i wrote to HTC support they told me this:

Wifi goes to sleep in standby to save battery leave it plugged in and configure Settings->Applications-> Developement->Stay awake...so the display never sleep while charging. Ok that solved it but i want to use it without being plugged in and screen off...Funny though that this is a bug and the support said it was normal.

Anyone knows a solution?
[Desire General] andycted:
Might be connected to what you say but my mac address starts with 00:23. I've read about that problem, but I thought it was only with custom roms.
[Desire General] andycted:
Hi again, installed opendesire 3.0.5 today.

Music has been playing in xiialive on wifi, screen off and unplugged, for about 2 minutes then stopped.

When the screen is on and/or plugged it, I suspect the wifi isn't throttled down (remember in WinMo you had a bar with power/quality trade-off ? could be something like that) because I can stream longer, but after some minutes it stops anyway

Definitely an issue with my router or wifi connection, probably remotely related to what you experienced though.

OT: I'm actually desperate to find a decent wireless modem/router, this even has 3 antennas but signal is spotty all the same. Any recommendations ?
[Desire General] Seronez:
I've tested it on at another router and it worked flawless seems my router has some kind of problem...maybe i have to add the mac adress to it i will post progressions...
[Desire General] Nodders:
This probably isn't it, but just to be sure...

Have you checked the hidden wifi sleep options? i.e. that Menu>Settings>Wireless&Networks>Wi-fi settings>Menu>Advanced>Wifi sleep policy is set to "never" and is not on "when screen turns off"?
[Desire General] Seronez:
Yeah this was the first thing i've checked it is on never, but it doesen't work...i don't know it's something with my router haven't found a solution yet maybe in future versions of android the issue will be fixed but now it looks like my router isn't supported in some way...btw: it's a LevelOne WBR-6002 so don't buy that ;)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] juancarlos66:
Sorry for posting a basic question but how can I get rid of the monopoly and bowling games on my Desire ?

They came ready installed but there is no option for undeleting.

Thanks you. ;)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djoni1980:
you need to debrand your orange phone, or root and flash custom rom
[Dash 3G, Snap General] yasirfaheem:
Is there a way to get windows mobile 6.5 pro on Tmobile dash 3g? I know it has windows mobile 6.5 standard. But i wanted windows mobile 6.5 pro.

Thanks,

Yasir Faheem
[Dash 3G, Snap General] Mr. Clown:
Moved this thread to general since it's not rom development
[Galaxy S I9000 General] masi0:
I had my HTC Desire which has 512MB of RAM.

on stock froyo rom i have managed to have around 300MB free while on rom's with sense around 220-250mb free after boot

on galaxy i have around 130-160mb top after boot. WTF?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Cooki3s:
The desire actually has 576mb of ram, which partially explains the difference. Don't know about the rest, maybe poor optimization of the touchwiz interface.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] widjaja74_us:
thats because of poor memory I/O management by Samsung.....

thats why you see lots of lagging complaints by end users....
[Galaxy S I9000 General] djglenn1337:
Is this true?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mickeko:
It's 100% guessing, and my bet is that it's the same amount of bullcrap. The lag is likely caused by many running apps, but for entirely different reasons than poor memory management. Samsung has no reason to fiddle with the memory management implemented in android, so I'm quite confident they didn't because it would be a waste of time.

Sent from my GT-I9000
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kenkiller:
Then why would it lag like hell fresh from the box without any form of tweaking or installing apps?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Kilack:
because the lag is caused by slow internal storage also.

That is why the best fixes for lag involve moving things to external sdcards
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mickeko:
If I knew I'd tell you.. I'm not going to pretend that I know how the SGS is designed. Could be poor CPU-throttling, power management issue, maybe the sole cause for the lag is a poor gps driver that hogs up too much of a specific system bus... I have no clue, but there are tons of ways to make a phone lag that doesn't have alot to do with memory management.

Sent from my GT-I9000
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Pika007:
Have any of you tried to flash to a newer firmware?

With JM2/JP3 you can see 305mb (rahter than the 256 of stock JF3), and the free memory is usually between 200-230mb.

We're supposed to see beter Himem memory in the final builds of froyo, resulting in more available memory, though endeed a large part of the 512mb is reserved for radio/gps/wifi/bt and other system uses.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sausagedog:
right call me thick but i have spent 2nights trying to find out how to, and all i get is send off for the code etc, is there a way to do it like on other htc`s.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] watcher64:
There is no free unlock service for the HD2 at this time ...

This is a cheap trust worthy source got my unlock code in about 15 minutes ...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Solace87:
I do not believe there is a free way.

Sorry if this is bad to say in the forums. For a fellow user I will unlock it for you at cost.

I run 2 unlocking websites, have had alot of success with this and dont mind passing that code on at cost.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sausagedog:
shame everythingcosts nowadays. unlock for other htc is easy not hd2. surly someone must do it for us members for free
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johnerz:
Sadly no :(
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] S_J_D:
Yes, I have an HD2 on O2 in the UK, and O2 sent me the unlock code (for free) when I contacted them via the unlock form on their website. Takes a few days to receive it but it's now unlocked.

HTH
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adamhosman:
I side loaded 2.2 onto my phone and it works wonderfully but, now when I try to email a photo it just continuously says sending and never actually sends it. Has anyone had this problem or can anyone point me in the direction of the correct corrective action.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pentafive:
Just tested going to Gallary, select a photo, then share, then Gmail and it was sent and delivered. Seems to work ok for me.

What method did you try?

-JD

ps. I am have build 3.16.32.15-g7507bb0 (Offical 2.2 with rmk-inc_froyo_fixes_v4 patch).
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zerf:
did you run the rmk froyo fixes v4 patch?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Honestly77:
He has 1 post so obviously not...how many people come here asking for help in the dev when it needs to be in general when the fix is usually already out there?

I'd say roughly 90%...

Apply the [PATCH]2.2 fixes deal. It'll work.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adamhosman:
Sorry for posting this in the wrong place and being part of the 90%! (Honestly77)

Could someone who would like to help direct me to the correct location for the fix.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adamhosman:
I found the thread and DL the file but it says "Apply the zip via CWM as usual (can be re-run anytime, such as for updates)." what does "CWM as usual" mean?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Terberculosis:
CWM is clockwork recovery. Boot into recovery and apply zip from SD card.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adamhosman:
Do I need to rename it update when I put it on the SD card?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adamhosman:
Nice!,thank you for the help with the terminology, I installed it and it is working like normal now. my gmail works again, thank you.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kriskmk:
Does anybody know how I can get Gmail to show me my inbox with it's list of emails (old and new) instead of directly showing me the newest email (opened) when I tap on Gmail??
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kriskmk:
any help with the question above??
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kriskmk:
I think I figured it out. If you do not want Gmail to open up the new email directly when you tap on the Gmail icon.. do not exit Gmail using the back key.. Instead use the home button to exit Gmail.. that way next time when you open it.. it'll go to your inbox list instead of an opened/new email.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adamhosman:
Thanks for the response but has nothing to do with my problem.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kriskmk:
I've had a similar issue with another app that seemingly took for ever to pass something thru the internet... just like the issue with send that you are having.. Uninstalling and reinstalling the particular app seemed to fix the problem for me.
[Desire General] Ashsi:
Hello, I recently debranded my phone using the goldcard then generic unbranded software RUU_Bravo_HTC_Europe_1.15.405.3_Radio_32.30

Today I tried to update my phone and once I updated it to 2.1 I lost my WiFi :confused:. Will downloading the 2.2 via 3G restore my WiFi or what else can I do to get it back
[Click General] JackStoreytime:
I know this might sound stupid. But is there a WM6.5 Port for the tattoo as I like WM and would like to try it on my phone to see if it is worth getting a HD2. My brother has a HD2 and I like the device so I was wondering
[Click General] dancer_69:
You must feel like this, and not for your question but because you trash these forums by making new threads for already existing topics.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=583920&highlight=windows+mobile

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=677143&highlight=windows+mobile

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=636993&highlight=windows+mobile

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=615094&highlight=windows+mobile

Please use search next time before start a new thread.
[Off-topic] Diamond_dawg:
Lets show everyone our hotwheels collection...pls keep chatting to a minimum and show off your cars

If you dont have anything photo then pls dont post.
[Off-topic] flyboyovyick:
Here's mine:
[EVO 4G General] Sprockethead:
Am I the only one for whom that is a deal breaker? I'm using a 2.1 Sense ROM with the FPS unlocked. Whatever Froyo brings as a benefit, it can't be worth going back down to 25fps, can it? Not a troll thread (I don't think), but just wondering why so many people are willing to sacrifice their FPS kernel to upgrade to 2.2?
[EVO 4G General] Itchiee:
Cause in the scheme of things its not really a big deal to most people. Froyo is very fast on this phone, games and movies run fine, so the 25fps is not an issue... It's nice you have your standards and all but your missing out.
[EVO 4G General] uniquenameevo:
FPS has never been an issue for me. I am an hour or so into froyo...I like the responsiveness.
[EVO 4G General] weezer562:
...

because nothing that i do on a day 2 day basis does this matter to me. Yes it would be nice but the over performance increase by far outweighs that for me.
[EVO 4G General] mrmomoman:
Because FPS isn't what this phone or any phone is all about. I would be willing to bet that over 90% of the users out there would not care about FPS or know what FPS stands for.

The FPS issue is a non issue to the majority. The Froyo update is smooth, the battery lasts much better than Stock 2.1 and its faster.

If you feel that the FPS henders you ability to use Froyo 2.2 then by all means stick with 2.1 with the OC/FPS kernels and wait until someone comes out with a "fix".

I will enjoy the update. I have NOVA, Golf and Asphalt by gameloft loaded and they work great. I am not a gamer just wanted to try them out. The graphics are amazing and I have not had any issues with lag or refresh.
[EVO 4G General] BrianBaker:
I feel ya man..Im back on Fresh 1.0.1 with 2.1 because of this very reason.You can apply the froyo FPS fix to 2.2 right now but it breaks the rear camera..So for me its a combonation of Sluggish FPS or cameras and with that i decided to just go back to 2.1..

Now I must wait untill the official Kernal drops for things to get fixed again..I've gotten used to how snappy the phone is when running at a higher frame rate that even stock Froyo seems sluggish still..But most people dont play games and happy with the scrolling between home pages they way they are...

Its more of a personal preference thing when it comes to this stuff man.I personally dont expect a good Froyo Sense rom with FPS fixed untill september-October when hopefully the official Kernal will be out.Till then I will be on 2.1.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
Simply put.. most of us dont care. It's definitely not that big of a deal to me. A few thousands of a second difference... :rolleyes:
[EVO 4G General] Sprockethead:
Yeah, me too. I appreciate all the other responses to my question, though. I am really surprised that nobody else cares about the frames per second. That is a must for me. It makes the fun much more fun to use because everything is so smooth. Oh well. I'll just keep waiting till the end of the year. Or else I'll break my camera. But then I won't be able to show people how cool Layar is!
[EVO 4G General] j2themax:
I run cm6 with froyo and 60 frames per second cameras still work everything but 4g and hdmi.
[EVO 4G General] jerryparid:
I never see the effects of 30 fps cap on real world applications. All my 2D games runs fine. I don't play 3D games on Evo, and I doubt the Adreno GPU can output 30+ fps on a First Person Shooter anyways.
[EVO 4G General] Sirchuk:
I don't get it, where is the 30fps cap visible?

I don't notice it dropping, but I've never applied an FPS fix either.

You won't notice it in the browser, or 90% of the apps that I use. I guess it could be visible in games and maybe videos? But I've never watched a video on the phone, and I haven't found many games worthwhile.
[EVO 4G General] kmartburrito:
I understand where you're coming from man, I am very sensitive to FPS I guess, due to PC gaming. More FPS is ALWAYS better, but I'm curious to try FroYo and see how it feels. I think I'll be willing to wait a bit for the FPS fix to come, if not I can always restore my fresh backup.
[EVO 4G General] engagedtosmile:
Go watch some videos of Nova. Runs very smooth.

PSX emulator with a 30FPS cap kind of sucks too.
[EVO 4G General] rdrjrh:
The fps cap is irrelevant.

The human eye cant see at >30 fps soo any increase in speed or what not u claim to get at higher fps is all just imagined in your head
[EVO 4G General] lacrossev:
I can definitely see the difference between the two different levels of FPS (capped and uncapped) and so when the first froyo roms came out and there was no fps fix for them, i held off.

When CM6 came out and it had the fix built in, i jumped in and was never happier. I mostly see the difference when scrolling, on its own at the capped speed it might look fine, but when its uncapped, especially next to my iphone 4, the difference is readily apparent.

With that said, i think people are jumping on the official 2.2 rom because they are satisfied with the stock experience. There are definitely two camps when it comes to phones, those that mod and those who don't, neither side tends to understand what the other side does. :)
[EVO 4G General] BrianBaker:
If you are on 2.1 still apply the FPS ''Fix'' and simply scroll through your home pages and tell me you dont see a difference...

The FPS fix for me has really nothing to do with games.The games i ran when i was useing froyo seemed perfectly fine but screen responsiveness was purely night and day.Froyo seems anciently slow once you've gotten used to how fast the ''fix''on 2.1 is.

And on another note im sick of the the human eye cant see the difference between 30 FPS and 60 FPS replys...You freaking sound like you work for HTC and were the main person in charge of those canned email responses we were all getting...I guess all these 60Hz-120Hz TVs are all just a sales gimmick.
[EVO 4G General] hancod:
Funny, when I first heard about all this FPS debate I couldn't understand how it could make any difference.

I have since installed CM6 and am getting average of 55fps. There is no way I'll go back. To those that say there is no difference, I have to imagine you haven't experienced it. Everything in the UI moves without stutter and touch response is spot on. This is much more than just a perceived difference. Makes the phone seem 'snappier'

my .02
[EVO 4G General] lacrossev:
Try to play an FPS at 30 fps, then 60fps, then 100 fps, and if you can't see the difference, then congrats, you don't have to worry about things like these and going through the trouble of rooting and flashing kernels or new roms to uncap the phone.
[EVO 4G General] persibro:
At first I was apprehensive about it too, but eventually I just flash Fresh 3.0 and since then I've gotten used to 30FPS again. That's not to say I'm not anxiously awaiting an FPS fix to come out for Froyo though!
[EVO 4G General] EliWay:
Agreed. Anyone who says such thing shows just how ignorant they are. The human eye can see well over 100fps. To say that the human eye can't see beyond 30fps is an absolute joke. Download this video file, open with DivX and then come back here and tell us that again...Yeah.
[EVO 4G General] zone23:
Because I don't care that much about it. Is it cool to show people? Yes. Is it required to use the phone NO! I think its stupid not to upgrade just for 50 fps instead of 30. Phone operates the same.

Besides then when it does come all I have to do is flash the kernel. I get the impression you think its stupid to switch, I think its stupid to wait. It doesn't make that big of a difference and yes I have both an xbox and PS3 on a 1080P television.
[EVO 4G General] hancod:
But why not have both with CM6 or AVA?