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[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] alantak:
1. Has anyone noticed a difference in battery drain between FAT and FAT32?

2. Has anyone else noticed a connection between idle battery drain and battery temp? When I got low drain, its around 24-25C. When I got high drain its ~35C. It can stay at that temp all day which worries me about damage to battery or other hardware.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] xkravenx:
With ShubCfraft 1.4d build. I get like 20 hours.

Right now after 11 hours unplugged I am still at 75%. Battery life is amazing with this build. Don't know why it's so bad with MattC build.

Most of the battery life is going to display and live wallpaper with ShubCraft. While most of the battery life goes to cell standby and phone idle with Mattc with Sense.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] qipengart:
Xkravenx which WinMo build are you using?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] qipengart:
Also with the 11 hours are you surfing the web for straight all 11 hours?

I got 7 straight hours this morning but I am dimming the display now to extend battery life.

I suspect on further charges battery life could improve?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] BLAST3RR:
Using mattc 1.6b Android ROM with NRGZ Regular WinMO ROM in combination with Radio_2_10_50_28_2, I now have over 21 hours of standby time with some music playing and some browsing, while still having around 50% battery left. Total uptime so far is 31 hours.

Now this I call impressive!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] xkravenx:
I am using [ROM][WWE][25.08.2010] Miri HD2 WM6.5.X (23133) ROM :: V 18.0 [ONLINE].

http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1786

Extra Light since I hardly use WM now, want fast boot.

Also you need to do the registry changes for power management.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] SnapCount:
Any push email being done?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] qipengart:
Got the Dutty V9 working well with Xcelsior build.

What the maximum amount of web surfing on 3G that can be done? I managed around 7 straight hours on 3G (maybe longer if I dimmed the screen).

Can anyone surf the web for 12+ hours on 3G for any build? Or would that be impossible?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mikecn:
I am waiting for the real rom of android...

May be system on sd-card is not a good idea.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] thenotoriouspie:
I've had a weird battery experience in android on my hd2. It used to not charge past 97 percent no matter what I did but recently its been going all the way to 100 percent. I've also been having better battery life also.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] alantak:
Battery drain is random

I am 100% convinced that battery drain is random and out of my (end-user) control, with my phone at least. I have tried the exact same configuration fresh several times and have had drastically different battery drain rates each time.

mattc 1.5b

chuckydroidrom

8/24 kernel modules

SetCPU (245/245 screen off)

The best I got was 40+ hours with moderate/light usage, just over 1% idle drain, battery temp 20-25C.

The worst I got was 7% idle drain, battery temp 30-35C.

This is with the exact same settings (changed nothing except auto sync = off). Always charged to green/100% in Android.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] anap40:
I am beginning to think the same thing. Sometimes I get better battery life when I charge the night before with the phone off or in WinMo, but sometimes I get the same bad battery life. There is something seriously wrong with drivers or something for both power management and charging of the battery.

I don't really see that any devs are working on the battery problem, they seem to be more concerned with NAND, but most people aren't even interested in NAND.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] alantak:
anap40: I would not say they are not working on it at all, maybe it is just more elusive than the other issues. I have seen several devs acknowledge the issue. For me personally it is definitely the main issue keeping Android from being my everyday OS.

thenotoriouspie: yes, the kernel as of 8/24 has made it so it will charge to green/100% in Android. I suspect all builds include this kernel update.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] qipengart:
Today I am testing real world use of mytouch 3g on edge network against airplane mode of the HD2 with Basic Excelsior build without SIM card.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] BLAST3RR:
Enabled weather/location updates, Twitter updates.

Didn't set up my e-mail account yet, but even then, that isn't push mail, but simply IMAP (my non-Gmail account, that is).
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] qipengart:
Ran the HD2 today with the Excelsior build Basic version with a SIM card. Apparently the drain about 12.5 hours through lowers the battery 10% approximately which is rather good. This means that the airplane mode is going to be rather helpful here. Will test with SIM card tomorrow using the mattc Nexus One build. I just tested the mattc Desire build and the phone was getting to be too hot for my liking with the Duttys ROM.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] qipengart:
A more official "scientific" test...

My build:

Android ROM: shubCRAFT_v1.5 (latest build I downloaded last night!)

WM: Energy.Leo.23127.Sense2.5.Aug.28

Sandisk 16GB card that came with the HD2 under contract...

Radio: 2.11.50.20

SPL: HSPL3_PKG

Charged fully until 8:40 AM when I took it out at 100% battery life. I will report later when I get home on usage and when the phone dies. I switched the wallpaper to the DroidX live wallpaper as well as from 3G down to EDGE for web surfing speeds. No changes except SetCPU to 245/768 when operational and 245/245 when screen off with ondemand at 100%.

UPDATE: I had to end the experiment early because of the radio issue with 2.11 giving me the SOD every single time the phone goes to sleep. I will update radio and test again tomorrow.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] qipengart:
Tomorrow I plan to test extensively my forthcoming build. I updated the radio and am not getting the SOD's anymore like with the 2.11 radio version.

Here are the specs:

My build:

Android ROM: shubCRAFT_v1.5 (latest build I downloaded last night!)

WM: Energy.Leo.23127.Sense2.5.Aug.28

Sandisk 16GB card that came with the HD2 under contract...

Radio: 2.12.50.02_2

SPL: HSPL3_PKG

I also modified the WM with autoboot using the program FD DroidBoot and also using the energy tweak that you can download the .cab file at RT @xdadevelopers Post: Increase Battery Life [WinMo registry tweaks - Need confirmation] http://bit.ly/9gnTvO. I use SetCPU at 245/768 when operational and 245/245 when screen off with ondemand at 100%. No 3G but only EDGE was used for this experiment for web browsing.

I will update with the results in this post soon... I also decided to use the Batteryminder app so that I have a more scientific way of quantifying what is going on with my Android build.

Timeline to be posted here:

August 31, 2010

7:26 AM- 100%, 15 hours 6 minutes

downloaded 1 Amazon mp3 (free one) by Heart and Backgrounds Free App off marketplace

7:39 AM- 98% 21 hours 11 minutes

7:48 AM- 97% 20 hours 3 minutes

NOTE: I will be posting this as a separate thread since this is less a discussion and more of a formal battery testing.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] qipengart:
I am doing formal testing of battery life for various combinations now. I have another thread that looks at this now.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] eenbox:
Registry tweaks and setcpu does not work on Tmobile US HD2 stock ROM and 2.08 radio... (stock as well)... tried and could not get it to work... I got everything setup nicely - not even 1% improvement...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] aussiebum:
I've posted a possible "fix" to battery life problems after some investigation... note it only applies to Android builds advertised to have working led/keypad lights. => http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=770903
[G1 General] Markus214:
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/07/t-mobile-g1-the-original-android-phone-is-now-retired/
[G1 General] maxomus:
Old news, isn't it, well a week or so...

I still love the G1, event though I've moved on...
[G1 General] jdkoreclipse:
the g1 is a classic. i never had one, but i know someone who did, and i couldnt keep my hands off of it. the g1 is old, but will always be a good phone. on to bigger and better things. g1 will be missed but never forgotten.

-jd
[EVO 4G General] dglowe343:
With Froyo Mania plowing it's way through the EVO forums, I was wondering which of the latest roms are (or gonna be) your daily driver?

By the way, big thanks to all the developers for unbelieveable work and an incredibly fast response to the Official FRF91 Leak/OTA.

DC all the way!!!
[EVO 4G General] DoctorComrade:
I'll go with CM when all the quirks are worked out.

Sent from my EVO using the XDA App
[EVO 4G General] illogic6:
It is my opinion that there is no reason to go with any ROM other that CM 6.0. 4G simply isn't worth having to deal with the bloat of Sense.
[EVO 4G General] driguez:
Well I was rocking CM but I went straight back to DC since it's finally out. I needed my 4G fix plus their ROM for 2.1 was excellent and so far so is their 2.2

Sent telepathically via my Evo.

-_-
[EVO 4G General] chazglenn3:
Setting up Burnt Droid now. Looks like a winner!
[Droid Eris Android Development] ban_dover:
Thanks to Cornbreadfarts for pointing this out to me-It saved my live over the move. over 12GB has moved through my phones data connection over the past 2 weeks or so with this setup.

Heres the original link, but DONT click and start following those instructions, I did and felt like a freakin idiot when i got to the bottom.

http://www.humans-enabled.com/2009/12/how-to-tether-your-verizon-droid-as.html

This is the link you should really be interested in. The writer of that atricle put together an all in one python script that gets everything setup for you. you can find it here

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/394584/Droid-Tether-SV.tgz

Extract it and run

sudo install_droidtethersv.py
[Droid Eris Android Development] fKngFtd:
I've used this before a few months back. It is easy to setup. Auto wired tether built into roms make it easier for windows based. Linux isn't too much of a problem. [=
[Droid Eris Android Development] ban_dover:
its not too bad on speed either.

i clocked 2.1 mb running it earlier.

and its the easiest linux wired tethering ive found.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Zer0_Cool:
Get stuck using this during the move? :D
[Droid Eris Android Development] ban_dover:
ya. it was really bad for a while. i messed up my sudoers file. rendered me root-access-less on my laptop. meant i could do anything with adb, couldnt run this wired tether...god it was bad.

so i had to re install ubuntu and my laptop uses proprietary drivers for the wifi card...that have to be downloaded from the internet. so wifi tether was out. and i hadnt noticed the all in one script in the beginning so i went through doing it all by hand, incluing having a buddy download all the pre-requisite deb files and put them on an ehd for me...god it was horrible.

then i found the all in one script!
[Droid Eris Android Development] fKngFtd:
Wired tether is very handy to have. Glad to hear that that you have everything worked out. Keep up the good work. Now if only someone could make a wep cracker app for our wireless card. lol o.O
[Droid Eris Android Development] ban_dover:
lol how awesome would that be!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] zeroFILL:
After being dropped while charging, the battery of my Kaiser just use almost a day (previously from 2 to 3 days).

I installed acbPowerMeter to measure power consumption and it shows an unbelievable value: 4294967mA :eek:

When plugged into the charger, the power consumption back to normal (I think), between 90-275mA. I wonder if Kaiser power circuit is broken or not.

Who have experience please give me an advice. Thanks! :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] becosemsaida:
Hi, if you've dropped your device you should check the connections to the batery. Try pulling out the batery, check if the "pins" are aligned, check if you batery isn't cracked.

Other thing that might have happened is that if you install new software it may drain you batery, i had the same problem after flashing and was only solved after getting a fix from the chef.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] zeroFILL:
Thank you for reply me!

I checked the battery connectors and tried different battery (borrowed from my friend), so the result is still the same. I did not install any software before and then.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] tadaskr:
Hello, I have same issue with battery drain. I don;t know if it was droped because I just bought it used and battery is draining in one day. I tried another tool called Mobadi, and it saying that my Kaiser using 90-200mA. how about you?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] V3rt!g(o):
90 -200mA is normal draw. Your battery is losing capacity over years of use, thats normal.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] dangerzone:
...normal draw during screen on and active use...

with these older devices, there are too many tiny things that can go wrong which cause weirdness.

1. Testing with a known good battery (NEW does not equal 'known to be good'-- I had two new batteries which would not even take a charge, followed by a new NON OEM battery with a low capacity cell inside! they use some undersized cells probably for pricing reasons... sort of like sticking an AA battery in a C cell shell. Not really sure what you can do in that case...)

2. Hard reset and see if the problem persists before doing any more troubleshooting.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] chopsui:
Now on the Market!

9/13/10 - New update!

The Max version now supports album art! You can choose to skin the cubes with your album art. It will automatically cycle through all of the album art on your SD storage. I'm working on an update to support those of you with internal storage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cWGhGnsIJI

market://details?id=com.wallpaper.VRTunnelMax - Full paid version

market://details?id=com.wallpaper.VRTunnelLite - Lite free version

I've removed the apk from here. If you already have one of the test versions installed, please uninstall it and get it from the market. That way you'll be able to get automatic updates.

To Do List

Short term:

Possibly implement some sort of color cycling so that the cubes change colors while it's running.

Long term:

User selectable textures

Pulsing when music is playing

Custom models - imagine instead of simple cubes, it was a bunch of Android robots

Thanks to everyone here for helping out with the testing!

If you can, come join us at the Big Texas Android BBQ

http://bigtxbbq.com/

Instructions:

If you've clicked on the about bar in the settings, then you've already seen these but I should include them here as well.

The tilting motion works best when the phone is in a relatively horizontal position.

Double tap the screen to re-center the tunnel.

Try tapping the cubes multiple times to change their rotation.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] Deekayy:
After watching the clip.. my mind in a daze haha. It looks reallyy good and i'm gonna try it out right now. How is it on the battery?
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] chopsui:
LOL, the 3D effect actually looks better in the video than in real life, I think.

As far as battery, I'm sure it takes quite a toll while it's on because the motion sensors are pretty power-hungry but you can turn them off in the settings if you wish.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] mssmison:
I know this is the nexus one forum. But just as an FYI it doesn't work on my stock 2.1 telus milestone. All the cubes and the tunnel are white, regardless of the settings selected.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] chopsui:
hmm, ok. Is the Milestone is the same as the Motorola Droid? If so, I can think of a few things to try for the next release...
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] babijoee:
nice testing now on cm6

pretty awesome so far. and pretty good for your first app :p
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] willdiddy:
Can I test out this lwp?
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] harmohn:
I'm impressed! It shows a lot of promise and I'll enjoy seeing how this develops.

Thanks for sharing :)
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] TimSykes:
Wow that is very cool!!!
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] traxxus:
This is the first cool Live Wallpaper :cool:
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] BogiYear:
Have just downloaded and looking good so far. Am interested to see battery usage.

Well done. That's nice work.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] imfloflo:
WoW thanks you awesome i'm loving it !
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] mssmison:
Yeah their real close, cdma (droid) vs gsm (milestone) but I'm pretty sure it's the same gpu.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] RevJesseJ:
chopsui, great job! These other posts are too humble. I think this LWP is top notch!

You have managed to get a '3D' style live wallpaper to work! I think the more people that find out about this the more popular you will become. I would pay for this in the market! Watch how many people kang this from you! I look forward to more from you in the future. :)
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] Christopher3712:
Just downloaded and installed. Awesome work!
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] willverduzco:
Very nice! I like it.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] chopsui:
Thanks for the comments everyone! I'm working on the Milestone/Droid bug now. I'll let you know when I have a new build.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] PatcheZ:
same thing on the hero...
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] h_zee13:
hey I tried the LWP and i gotta say it's pretty nice
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] chopsui:
I've updated the original post for those having issues with the textures.

Let me know what happens. Thanks!
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] spiicytuna:
Installed from the market. LOVE THIS on my EVO! Great Work!
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] chopsui:
Hey guys, here's a little peek at the latest

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ-OAGAJ6dM
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] imfloflo:
Very nice update waiting for it :)
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] chopsui:
Updated the OP. The Album Art update is on the market. Sorry, only paid version. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cWGhGnsIJI
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] Deth Becomes You:
I tested the original and loved it!! I just bought the full version. Keep up the good work! :)
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] chopsui:
Thanks! I've had a couple of reports of FCs while using album art. If that's happening to anyone here, please let me know.

-mike
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] gillaney:
X-Wing?

A thought.

It would be so cool if there was like an x-wing in the foreground. It makes me think of when look is going to blow up the death star. This way you could almost fly it around the cubes like a game.

Great app though.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] martinl1030:
omg lol. just checked it out and im amazed on how 3d it looks. gives me a headache when i stare into it too long though haha.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] jersey_609:
It gives me a headache too, but it is a great wallpaper
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] GammaPaladin:
I would buy the pro version of this, but it doesn't run on my phone. I've got a MyTouch 3G 1.2 that I just installed Cyanogen 6 on, and when I pick it from the live wallpapers menu, it works perfectly in the preview screen, but the moment I hit the "set as wallpaper" button, it works for a second, then freezes, and the wallpaper reverts to a static one :(
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] BlindDude:
I have a problem.. This wallpaper was working great on my droid incrdible 2.2 froyo until I plugged it into the pc and choose "disk drive".

When I did that, VR Tunnel opened a window saying that there was an error and VR Tunnel closed.

When I go to choose a live wallpaper, I select VR Tunnel and it opens that window saying it is closing again.. I can still go into the settings though.

I have selected each setting individually on/off trying to get VR Tunnel to work again.. Nothing helps

Uninstall/Reinstall does nothing either..

Is there some files maybe left behind that I can delete after an uninstall that might get this working again?

Thanks for the great WP.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] tonysac:
For some reason i cant see my album covers on the cubes(paid version-galaxy s))..is this Album art an application that i should buy from market because i cant find it there....

In first post i think its not an application from market , i have my album arts in both internal and external sd but nothing happens..pls help

EDIT

Cancelled, just did a refresh in my album grab, everything works fine..AWESOME!!
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] defrederick:
Cool app - but axes reversed on my phone

This app is very cool. I used to have the VR Hologram on my HTC Diamond, but this behaves much smoother.

The only problem is that on my Desire, it appear that the axes are reversed, which completely ruins the 3d effect. Is it possible to include an option to reverse the axes if all phones don't behave the same way?

Thanks!

Dan
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] chopsui:
The paid version has an option to reverse the axes.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] chopsui:
Are you using the album art version? If so, it will try to scan your SD card when it starts. If the SD card is unmounted (such as when connected to USB), it might produce an error. I will see what I can do about the crash but it should work as long as your SD card is inserted and mounted correctly.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] defrederick:
Paid version takes over battery monitor

I installed the paid version and started monitoring the battery. Even under heavy use, which you'd expect would put the wallpaper in the background, the battery indicator shows VR Tunnel Max as consuming between 75% and 95% of the battery. It also didn't properly show any of my other applications.

Even after changing the WP to a different image, VR Tunnel was still showing as a huge consumer of the battery.

I was only able to restore the battery gauge to its normal status after uninstalling VR Tunnel Max.

Anyone else experiencing this?

Dan
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] BlindDude:
I am sorry,, I thought I subscribed to this thread but I never got an email about you response to me..

Yes I am using the album art version.

When I plugged my DI into my PC I choose "disk drive" which screwed something up with VR Tunnel.

Now it just Force Closes whenever I try to use it.

I have uninstalled it and used "astro" file manager to search for files maybe left behind but I am too new to Android to even know where to look.

So basically, I plugged my Droid into my PC and used it as a disk drive, then when the home screen popped up and VR Tunnel was supposed to run, it couldnt because the PC had the SD card mounted.

Now it just force closes everytime I try to use it.

So, I am thinking that when I uninstall VR Tunnel, it doesnt remove EVERYTHING, so is there some files or folders I can delete after an uninstall so when I reinstall VR Tunnel, it will act like brand new?

Thanks for any help..
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] switchgott:
Hi,

doesn´t work on defy with froyo!

Please make it work!

Ist realy cool!
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] death1246:
put it on the market so i can donate damnit! :D
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] leonnib4:
I just love how you use the sensor to change the perspective!

Should give some other ideas :)

Thanks for sharing
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] jersey_609:
this is one of the best live wallpapers i have seen great job keep up the great work
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] mattrb:
mirror

tinyurl.com/vrtunnel
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] simeezee:
sweet i will try it out. the video looks goooood
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] worker1:
You should make a gray color for tunnel color. Maybe a navy blue, also. It's pretty badass.