yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Desire General] ianbbaa:
Hi all,

i found a lot about syncing itunes and other stuff over cloud on desire but nothing more...but i am used to sync my nokia through phone suite with folders on my PC at work and home. HTC sync alows me to sync only contacts. I have on my SD card folder with some XLS and DOC files that after work I sync with folder on my PC, when i come home sync again with my PC at home and after i finished working with files at home, sync with phone and morning i come to work with fresh files with me, sync again with PC at work and so on... I miss this a lot, maybe a bit oldfashioned in ages of cloud but it is easier and quicker even edit files with phone on the go - and when come back to synced PC, will get fresh copy from phone onto PC.

Any other program to do this? Thanks a lot
[Desire General] ianbbaa:
Maybe will help somebody, i solved for now this problem. Using SyncToy 2.1 and connect Desire as DiskDrive. Then setup SyncToy 2.1 on left side my PC folders, on right side Desires SD card sync folder and thats it...
[Desire General] daern:
The very first thing that I noticed after upgrading to 2.2 was that the browser was noticeably more sluggish when panning and was visibly lagging behind my finger on the screen. It's only obvious on sites with complex content (e.g. www.planetf1.com :) ) and happens even with Flash switched off

I'm pretty sure this didn't happen with 2.1 as it was immediately apparent once I'd upgraded, but without having them side by side, it's hard to tell.

Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
[Desire General] pascanu:
Nope. planetf1.com loads just fine on mine. (with flash enabled)
[Desire General] e.gammieri:
Yes... I've noticed the same behaviuor!!! Now, with official 2.2 rom, scrolling sites is lagging respect to the fingers movement!
[Desire General] alialo88:
Came here to see if there were any threads on this. I notice the exact same thing in nearly all of the full fat websites (not the mobile versions) I go on. It's really irritating as the browser is the main thing I use on the phone besides texts, and it's nowhere near as snappy as before. Sort of wish I'd held off updating.
[Desire General] A|ex:
mine is perfectly fine but i did a full data and phone reset
[Desire General] rodhull:
Inertia lacking

For me, it's not the speed as such, but the speed of the scrolling - it's still smooth and not jerky, but there seems to be a lack of "inertia".

The same can be said for Google Maps - flicking or scrolling quickly doesn't produce quite as much speed and the scrolling simply slows down much faster than before with much less inertia/elasticity (if that makes sense!)

Not a major problem, and as I said, it's still smooth and not jerky for me which would have been a much bigger problem if the frame-rate had reduced...
[Desire General] neomoz:
I have noticed scrolling isn't quite as smooth as 2.1, I have flash on demand but noticed animated images now animate. I wonder if that slows the scrolling down.
[Desire General] vukis:
Same here on regular sites (not mobile ones). What's diference between flash always on and on demand?
[Desire General] psycop:
Same here.. Experiencing more laggy scrolling in browser
[Desire General] daern:
Thanks all. Good to know I'm not alone...

Again, this is my primary app on the device so for me at least, this is a bit of a downgrade :(

Perhaps a cache purge might help....
[Desire General] Svennebannan:
In di.se I can´t scroll down at first, I have to zoom in to be able to scroll down. There wasnt any problems before upgrade
[Desire General] Jongo:
I cleared my cache and turned my phone off and on and that seems to have cleared up my sluggish browser.
[Desire General] mcgon1979:
its a real pity there are some annoying little issues.

The browser home page does not work. Evenif you kill the browser it will still load on the last page you visited. not google etc or whatever you want as your homepage. I wanted 2.2 fast too, but some basic QA could have caught these issues.
[Desire General] dexteral:
yup it is lagging and slow in comparison to 2.1
[Desire General] silure130:
I can cope with most issues but this is to bad. Going to roll back until this is fixed
[Desire General] mark99uk:
This lag is really bad and noticeable, I'm.surprised not as many people are making a big thing of it, it is to me lol .

I've done a full wipe and the browser lag is still there

Anyone know what else to try
[Desire General] bridgstfer:
Yep I am experiencing the same.

Gotta be something to do with Flash right?
[Desire General] Nit3m4re:
Mines not super smooth either but for how often I use it where I need it, it doesn't bother me at all.
[Desire General] st0kes:
I've also noticed scrolling is a bit jerky, not just in browser but in any list, for example flicking through apps in the app drawer. It's annoyed me for a while, I've put it down to quirks of unofficial roms. Seems to be worse in some roms more than others, and also worse when I have more apps installed but I may be imagining that. :)
[Desire General] DaMan:
Browser is slower than 2.1, it's annoying.
[Desire General] aalviedo:
Are you guys using any custom ROM's? I noticed this also when I flashed a custom ROM before Froyo's official OTA update. But now after using different ROM's and finally sticking with the amazing NextSense Froyo ROM, I don't have this browser lagging problem anymore. I think it's better If you try to reflash your phone again with full wipe for those who have root, or those who doesn't have root try to do a factory default settings. Hope this helps. Cheers!
[Desire General] th3:
I use the browser heavily, 4-9 hours on each charge. If I had such a problem even slightly I would've reverted to 2.1. HTC 2.2 with root that I'm on doesn't have this problem but the complete converse change. Far faster. I can't remember anyone on this ROMs thread complaining about this.

It'd be best you all state whatever ROM you're using because saying just 2.2 is very vague.

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- Sent via my HTC Desire -
[Desire General] thedons1983:
Have I noticed a laggy browser on 2.2? No, so if you have this problem, you probably screwed it yourself, frankly. And if it bothers you that much, take the phone back! Sick of all the moaning on this site!
[Desire General] prcach:
i got it....since upgrade is pain in the ass to browse this site for example....from the moment i enter in some thread lag dissapears
[Desire General] DaMan:
Mine is rooted and has the problem, my wife's telephone isn't and is showing same problem with default 2.2. For example www.dn.se is jerky.
[Desire General] mcgon1979:
eh... Not moaning at all. I did not screw i myself. Phone is brand new unlocked unrooted unhacked unbroken unbranded un-everything. Just carried out the official HTC 2.2 upgrade. and browser is slower. I think people are asking around for confirmation that others have the issue too.
[Desire General] thedons1983:
Shame I have to repeat myself, but if only some people have the "problem", then there is something wrong with your phone and not with the 2.2 upgrade generally. If it bothers you that much, take the phone back! It's pretty simple really.
[Desire General] wally80:
After experiencing this problem with the official OTA update from HTC, I decided to root my Desire and try a couple of ROMs.

Any ROM based on the 2.2 HTC OTA presented this problem, at least in my device.

(Now I am on Leedroid).
[Desire General] wally80:
Dear Thedons1983,

The reason we are discussing in this thread is exactly to understand why "some people" have this problem, and some (apparently) do not. If you don't have anything constructive to say, I don't see the reason for you posting here.

This is not "moaning". This is exactly the purpose of a forum like this. And if you are "sick of all the moaning in this site", go to visit other forums.

Besides that, there are senior members experiencing this problem and participating to this thread. They probably do not need lessons from you about when to send the phone back.:mad:
[Desire General] thedons1983:
Dry your eyes mate, take the phone back or shut up, it's not rocket science.
[Desire General] st0kes:
You are idiotic, frankly.

Wake up ... this is a discussion forum. If you don't like it, don't participate. We won't miss you. Trolls are not welcome here.
[Desire General] abnesher:
I have had the EXACT same problem since updating to 2.2, and I've been combing the internet for a solution ever since. There are a lot other people who has this problem, and believe me...it is very noticable.

My Desire is completely clean and I also tried a hard reset, but no luck. The browsing is still a pain.

If we should try to theorize where the problem could be, the facts are

1. Not all Desire-phones have this problem. Why could this be?

2. Not all websites are equally lagging. Why could this be?

Personally I have no idea why some browsers are lightning fast after the update, and why some are very laggy.

Regarding the difference in speed between different websites, it points towards certain types of content could be the problem. My own experiences are that websites with "a lot" going on layout- and advert-wise, are really laggy. I've been suspecting the new flash player, but turning off Flash-content doesnt help one bit. It seems plausible that showing a website with 5 differnt flash-ads containing animations and such, would strain the processor a lot more, but apparently not everyone is experiencing this. Very, very weird.

PS. I've read more than one testimony from people with completely clean and non-rooted Desires who are having these problems too, so it doesnt seem to be down to some rogue app screwing it all up.

Any tech-people have some suggestions, apart from it being a weird bug in the update?
[Desire General] Beowulf_pt:
I don't have the Desire (yet) but always find funny when someone *****es about others complaining. Some people have issues and not all phones are in perfect shape, nor its users have similar levels of tolerance.

Samsung Galaxy S (which I own) foruns were the same, with fanboys yelling "sell it if you don't want it, GPS is fine" even while admitting that they didn't use GPS and only did a lock INDOORS and it "was very fast". The thing can't hold locks and jumps around sats, losing signal all the time no matter what the SnRs. Tracks zigzag like hell.

I'm returning the Galaxy S and going for the Desire and if 2.2 introduced bugware, it is fair to talk about it. I for sure want to read about lags or any other problems as returning phones should be a rare, rare exception.

Taking back a phone due to software issues before figuring out why and if they can be solved is pure nonsense and suggesting it is also pure nonsense.

If you don't have issues with the problem, ignore the threads about the problem instead of injecting noise. Users often think that the proliferation of theads on problems will diminuish the value of their units or their pride in their wise purchasing choices. Not so.

But I do agree that people complaining about this should at least mention if they were using any fishy ROMs before or did full previous resets and such before 2.2

Starting at a different stage might result in different results. So provide data and metrics or it's just foggy, vague comments based on a subjective impression.

Also, is it really slow speed and lag or simply just a different inertial feeling as someone pointed out? Perhaps some kinetic scroll settings were changed a bit and can still be tweaked again.
[Desire General] u1008:
Actually didn't notice before reading this thread as I use Opera instead, but wow, after checking the built in browser it has indeed become very sluggish, on full sites as others have said.

PS - dont feed the troll (thedons1983)
[Desire General] well0549:
Maybe the laggy behaviour is cause by the support for animated gif's in the webbrowser.

If a page has them, it can become laggy, if a page doesn't have then it's fast like it used to be. As people stated, the mobile variants are still fast. Switching off flash doesn't help so it could be the animated gifs.

Maybe the fact that some people have this laggy behaviour and other don't coule

be caused by the type of pages that they look at.
[Desire General] mcgon1979:
I think your pretty simple really. :D
[Desire General] myth1001:
Flash is what makes it laggy I think.

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire General] Ja-be:
Today my Desire crashed while trying to use GPS Status. I was surfing the web, reading news and listening to music. The usual you do when riding the train. With a laggy browser of course.

The App (GPS Status) was slow and unable to obtain a GPS fix. While trying to go to its settings, the phone rebooted. Don't worry, GPS Status is not to blame -- it just uses GPS which then again uses a blazing amount of CPU power.

After the phone booted and the browser was as fast as it was in Eclair. Heck even my Wifi seems "all better" now, it runs the SpeedTest App without any interruptions (unlike this noon when it didn't even run to completion).

I can only speculate and observe the issue, but it seems there's some degradation in performance the longer the phone runs.
[Desire General] PhoenixNLx:
i think you are right!

somebody could please turn gif animation off :)
[Desire General] Beowulf_pt:
Isn't that normal in all android phones? It is even in my Symbian. I hope there are "auto daily reboot" apps in the market.
[Desire General] th3:
To everyone who has this laggy browsing on 2.2:

Can you post one website link which you all have the problem with? Describe roughly what you experience on it.

Then we "non-laggers" can test for certain :)

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- Sent via my HTC Desire -
[Desire General] ohyeahar:
I've updated to the official 2.2 update and did a hard reset afterwards. The browser is definitely a bit less responsive in scrolling. But just a tiny bit. Not enough to be a bother.

Seems to me that it's definitely the amount of content of the site that causes it. Try going to the following site on your device.

www.espn.go.com/nba/

If you have "Load images" and "Enable javascript" toggled on, there is a very slight lag when scrolling and zooming.

But if you disable those two items, it becomes much smoother.
[Desire General] gurmukhp:
Just got this from HTC support:

Thank you for your reply. I have spoken to the escalations team regarding this and they tell me that this is a problem that they have escalated to HTC head office and that they will be releasing the fix for it with the next update that you will recieve I am sorry it took so long for you to get a proper answer. Kind regards Christian HTC Care Team
[Desire General] NutsyUK:
I get the lag and slow browser rendering on most sites other than plain text. Most notably the BBC site I had no trouble there before the update
[Desire General] mark99uk:
Anyone have any fixes for the laggy browser yet?

The froyo browser lag still exists after hard reseting the phone :-(
[Desire General] ohyeahar:
This browser lag issue is odd. It's not consistent. I sometimes feel the lag. But other times, it's blazing fast. I can't figure out what's causing it.
[Desire General] Armalite:
Strange. The BBC site is supersmooth on my desire. Forum index on this page tho is extremly laggy when scrolling.

I hope there will be a fix for this soon because this makes the desire feels like a really slow cheap phone :/
[Desire General] gurmukhp:
I couldn't agree more!

Dolphin hd browser works well on the laggyness but imo has an ugly ui!
[Desire General] fadishehadeh:
disable plug-ins in the browser you will notice that the browser is was faster

and regarding the gps, my phone is rebooting every time i activate gps or navigate

this happened using maps and Navigon
[Desire General] Ja-be:
Nope, not a problem with plugins. I've tried everything, the problem is definitely a bug in the browser. The *only* way to make the browser fast like in 2.1, for a short period at least, is to reboot the phone.
[Desire General] jimmy-fix-it:
Don't go on this site then if you're so sick of it. What a tosser
[Desire General] hatton920:
My browser is laggy only after I view any flash content. If I leave it on demand and don't view any flash content my browser is super smooth. Only a reboot will clear this until the next time I view flash content.
[Desire General] inode_:
lag

another site that is "lagged" for me...

www .repubblica. it
[Desire General] Ja-be:
Ok, here's what I've observed so far:

Flash is set to "on demand"

Start page is Google News: Super smooth

Go to another site: Super smooth

Tap flash to load: Laggy (DUH: FLASH ;)).

Go back to Google News: Still laggy.

Kill browser

Start page is Google News: Super smooth again

What I'm wondering:

Why starts the browser to get laggy after a while when flash loading is set to "on demand", contrary to my micro-benchmark just now.

Why does killing the browser not help when 1) is true.

However, when 2) is true, actually *viewing* flash and *then* killing the browser helps.

It all comes down to Flash, the "official" beta version (I guess) and some programming bug in the plugin code (I guess ;)).
[Desire General] godutch:
my desire in general is more snappy than my desktop (p4 2.4GHz, nvidia 6600GT) with several linux distros (eg mandriva 2010.1 or ubuntu lucid), even when playing flash! when browsing. What I do notice is some lag in dolphin hd but not the stock browser
[Desire General] Armalite:
Well, I have had flash set to Off since I got 2.2 and it still get choppy on scrolling a while after reboot. Dolphin HD has the same choppyness. The only browser that is smooth is Opera Mini. But it has other issues. And to be honest: None of the scrolling in the whole OS is as smooth as 2.1 was. Something in the touch experience has changed :(
[Desire General] Brodel:
I've noticed this too. It never crashed before but since updating it really does freeze a lot and then the whole system itself is pretty slow even after exiting the browser.
[Desire General] jimmy-fix-it:
I agree totally with Armalite, it isn't just the browser that's got choppy, it's the whole fluid nature of android 2.1 that has disappeared or changed. Sadly in my opinion the whole device doesn't feel as slick as it did under 2.1.

Shame, real shame
[Desire General] Ja-be:
Just a heads up, todays update didn't fix the lag.
[Desire General] Armalite:
Oh crap! What are they doing? How could they not fix this? Thanks for sharing anyway.
[Desire General] gurmukhp:
Yep I can confirm that!
[General Questions and Answers] mdeva:
Any application to

1. resize java apps to fit screen

2. make them touch usable instead of via dpad
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AtoZ0to9:
Hello,

My name is Brian, I'm a member here obviously.... Had the username BFielding a while back, registered in 2007 if I remember correctly, but can't access or retrieve password for that account, different email now, so now I'm BFielding80...

Heres my problem... I can't get SH!T for help on this site, maybe because it's so overloaded, or maybe some a$$hole said dont help this person.... IDK

All I know is I ask a question and they RARELY get answered.... I'm at the point I'LL ****1N PAY U TO ANSWER MY QUESTION, I'VE BEEN ASKING THE SAME D@MN QUESTION LONG ENOUGH...

I need radio help. I'm rooted, I run all the ROMs, always Froyo based.... I've never updated my radio from what it came with.... I have radio 32.26.00.24H_4.04.00.03_2

I haven't updated because I don't want to kill my AT&T 3g.... I've read that the TMo Froyo radio will kill my AT&T 3G so thats why I left my radio alone.... But now I'm reading that the newer radios are compatible either way, so I want to upgrade it.

I know I can go back if it does kill my 850/1900, but I would rather someone to just please just recommend me a radio as well as link, I'll adb it myself...

I need a radio for best 3G and battery life would be a plus, but 3G is more important, in my area I drop to edge frequently...

THE PERSON WHO HELPS ME WILL RECEIVE $10 US DOLLARS VIA PAYPAL

Thanks,

Brian
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vakman:
Well, I don't want your money but you should be fine flashing this new radio (32.41.00.32U_5.08.00.04). Some people say they get improved battery life and some don't. Most seem to get better reception.

Full Link To The Thread on this Radio Image: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=723839

There is where you will get the newest radio image, it is identical to the one found in the Desire 2.2 update. You do not have to update HBOOT if you do not want to, though I could be wrong on that one, though I didn't have to when I did.

If you do not want this version of the radio as some people have trouble with it you can flash the radio that was uploaded by enomther:

Hope this helps. Lastly, this maybe should be in N1 Q&A section.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AtoZ0to9:
THANK YOU FOR YOUR RESPONSE... I NEED TO COME THROUGH ON MY WORD THOUGH, IM me bfielding80@yahoo.com wanna chat and i'll take care of you...

Brian
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vakman:
Heh, no that is all right. By the way, I kept editing my post a fair bit, sorry.

So there are two 2.2 radios you could flash. The newer one does give you better reception though, I use the 4.06 one though, if you were curious.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AtoZ0to9:
PM me your PayPal addy please
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crx4xharder:
I have a tmo n1 and I noticed better reception with the korean radio but I've noticed some roms don't give me better reception but sometimes WORSE. I'm on rodriguez r21 limemod using the 5.06 radio. Works well. Just one off those trial and error things. If you re on edge instead of 3g try the *#*#4636#*#* trick just remember if u you use wcdma only and lose 3g u lose all service and have to change back to wcdma preferred. Good luck...
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vakman:
xD No, really it is all right.

The ROM shouldn't affect your reception to my knowledge. You may have different APNs set and that could cause issues but even that is a stretch.

What 5.06 radio? 4.06 or 5.08?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AtoZ0to9:
Just put both radios on my SD, I'll update through RA recovery, but yall think adb is better?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vakman:
They both should have the same end result. I usually flash through recovery but to each his own. See which one you like better make sure you checked the MD5sum and make sure they match up.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AtoZ0to9:
I flashed the Korean 32.41.00.32U_5.08.00.04 radio through recovery, I'll report back my results, and thank you so much for the help Vakman, really would like for you to let me do what I said I would do..

Let this thread be an example to upper XDA management.... Yea the new forums nice, but how about actually helping people....

Once again, super thank you Vakman!!!!!

Brian
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vakman:
Heh, let me know how it goes, I'll put a donate button in my signature along with other things once XDA allows me to. Signatures are not allowed for newer users in an effort to stop spam and such. Which is completely understandable. Just means I have to wait to add stuff I want down there. Enjoy.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AtoZ0to9:
Sounds good... but I think I've provided enough contact info...
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vakman:
Haha. Let me know if you have any trouble with the radio. I am thinking of switching back to it.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AtoZ0to9:
So far so good... when im sittin in my garage im always on edge with 1 bar... and since the radio change i have 2 bars with hsdpa.... so alls good so far... now to see the battery life
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bogdi1988:
you should not see any major difference between the two radios when it comes to battery life. i've been using 5.08 since it came out, i have a much more stable signal and battery life is the same for me.

you can also downgrade ur radio whenever you want... just flash the old radio through recovery... you'll be ok