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[Desire General] Racker_CRO:
Great guide. Easy to follow and it does what I need. Now I have a question regarding left free space. I transfered most of my downloaded programs to SD and they all work I've calculated all my "Downloaded" apps and they took 31,76MB of local storage. In settings it is shown that I have 41,15MB left. I cleared all my internet cache, have only few emails without attachments and cache from programs is rather small. Is this free space ok? I mean 106MB i consumed by default installed programs? Or am I missing something?

Another thing, after I moved apps to SD I reverted this option to "0" and when I enter Applications --> select application option to move it to Phone is till active. I didn't try to move it but I believe that if I move it I won't be able to move it back to SD without changing parameter to "2".

Last question is where are moved programs located on SD? I tried browsing my SD with Astro and I couldn't find them. As far I could see newsreader is saving pics and text from RSS to SD by default? Is there a option to change that or to clear old news? Same question is for mail, can I changed mail location and attach to SD?

BTW it would be nice to post what apps you managed to move and work without problem. Here are mine (not sure which one have it by default so I will post all I have on SD):

androidVNC

Armoured Strike

Barcode Scanner

Documents to Go Pro

Google Sky Map

Motonav

Nimbuzz

RockPlayer

Talking Tom Free

As I said I changed only ones that are located under "Downloaded" not "All". Is there any default one that I could move, "Maps" (4,5MB), etc? And regarding the statement that apps or services are killed if you plug your phone to computer is not true if you set your options to Sync or Charge only by default not to Disk Drive. I tried it and all my programs on SD work, they are killed if I change it to Disk Drive and SD is unmounted.

Thank you in advance.
[Desire General] glumardok:
Funny that you mention Google Sky Map, Racker!

Before the October OTA, Google Sky Map 1.5.2 worked well from my SD. But the OTA required 25 MB of space on the internal memory, and in order to create that I deinstalled several apps, amongst which was Google Sky Map. After the OTA, I was able to reinstall most deleted apps, but not Google Sky Map, I got either the Fault -18 notification or the simple notification installation failed. This was the more annoying as version 1.5.2 in the Market description claims to have Froyo SD support.

Today, I found that my sister had still a back up of version 1.5.1 of Google Sky Map. I copied this to my phone - and had no problem at all to install this! And even with version 1.5.1 installed, version 1.5.2 continues to fail.

Another app which may be prone to such failure is possibly LockPicker. I have version 0.94 installed, and it works absolutely perfect. The current version in the Market is 0.95 - and there is the warning that it will not work with Froyo. I am not up to a change.

The existence of such warnings is, btw, the reason that I in fact believe that there will possibly come an update which fixes these current issues, @ rottunix. And such warnings let me recommend that when using the setInstallLocation 2 mod, we better do not permit automatic updates and don't use the update functionalities of apps like the AppBrain App but rather perform updates manually via the Market.

This is kind of the price we pay for more internal memory and thus many more apps on our phones at present (either Gingerbread, Honey Comb or Ice Cream at the latest will make us forget all these issues once upon a day anyway).
[Desire General] Racker_CRO:
Well I'm using Sky Map 1.5.2 installed from market and I had never had any problems with it. In matter of fact I think that this app has move to SD option by default.
[Desire General] Racker_CRO:
Update info:

Well 2nd day after using this guide all my apps on SD are gone! All my shortcuts are generic icons and on tapping them I get "The linked program is no longer installed on your phone" and there is no way to get them back (I think). I even tried browsing my SD card with astro or adb shell but no luck. Anyone knows where are all apps that are transfered to SD located? I need full path like /system/SD/app...or something. Help!

Thnx.
[Desire General] snark_be:
There are stored in .asec files in /mnt/secure/asec/. These asec files are mounted at /mnt/asec/, 1 directory per app, each containing a pkg.apk file.

When the SD card is not mounted, you can find the .asec files in /.android_secure/ .
[Desire General] Racker_CRO:
Thnx for info. My folders are empty...something deleted those entries. I suspect that Navigon Fresh did that. Everything worked like a charm before I tried to install my Navigon maps via Navigon fresh. In other words there is no way back except total reinstall?
[Desire General] snark_be:
If you have an nandroid backup, maybe you can restore from it? There is a file called .android_secure.img .
[Desire General] Racker_CRO:
Well my Desire is not rooted and I don't have nandroid (I think it is for root phones, or am I wrong?).
[Desire General] Racker_CRO:
Yup it is confirmed...Navigon Fresh messed up my SD card. Here is a link to forum with other users complaining about it:

http://forum.mobilism.org/viewtopic.php?f=726&t=141315&start=120
[Desire General] snark_be:
Yes, nandroid backup is for rooted phones, sorry! :o
[Desire General] snark_be:
Stuff from mobilism.org is not always the safest to install ... nor the most legal ... :rolleyes:
[Desire General] Racker_CRO:
Nope, I didn't install from there. I have full version of Navigon bought in store so that is not the issue. It is not problem of cracked application, it is the way navigon fresh reads your SD card. Safest way to update maps is by connecting SD card to card reader instead of disk drive via Desire.
[Desire General] Bim2k:
Thanks for the heads-up on SDMove. Desire went from 3MB free to 13MB free without rooting. :D
[Desire General] 842m8s:
@well0549,

just got round to doing this.

Thanks!!

842m8s!
[Desire General] HtcDesire2:
Thanks, will give it a try :)
[Desire General] rottunix:
I have been using data2ext for a.couple of weeks and I am still happy with it.

Had some lag in the beginning but I got rid of it for 99% by leaving some stuff on the internal memory and creating some links.

I got now 1.7GB free to install apps

:-D
[Desire General] hd2-on-wye:
hi all.... at my witts end :( i keep getting 'adb' is not a recognized internal or external command, operable program or batch file :mad::confused::o:(
[Desire General] snark_be:
Did you download the Android SDK? It's in the tools directory.

See here: http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/tools/adb.html
[Desire General] hd2-on-wye:
yeah but when it was installing it did give an error for failed renaming file folder or summat like that...... during an update in sdk kit....
[Desire General] hd2-on-wye:
used a different computer..... BANG sorted first time.... But apps still installing internally lol any others experienced this ?
[Desire General] snark_be:
A part of the application still goes in internal memory. Only a part (size depending on the application) goes to the SD card.
[Desire General] fredefl:
Thanks! I just got 10 mb extra!
[Desire General] commando0:
thanks for a nice guide ......

i have tried it and works good

i my case following commands worked

c:\andoid\android-sdk-windows\platform-tools\

my "tools" folder does't run adb commands

"adb shell pm getInstallLocation"

it showed me current setting of installation
[Desire General] alexcavaco:
In the lastest SDKs the adb command was moved from "tools" to "platform-tools" folder
[Desire General] shakland:
Try also the free app from the market "move2sd enabler" ;)
[Desire General] anotherxdauser:
List of Apps which cannot be moved:

Facebook

Maps

Market

Skype

YouTube

Yes, even using the "enable move to SD" app doesn't enable them to be moved to the SD card.

It's a shame that some apps like eBay, PayPal, IMDB leave so much on internal memory. I don't use them often but I do use them.

Currently have around 30Mb free but it's not enough to install a game I want, even though I know I'd be able to move that game to the SD card once it's installed.
[Desire General] adibadi:
Hello all,

Sorry if this was covered already, but I couldn't find anything about it.

After updating to 2.2 (OTA), Google Sky Map orientation seems to be acting weird. If I hold it so that I can see the horizon, with the phone in front of me, then spin around in a circle, the program doesn't pick up that movement. It used to work fine in 2.1.

Anyone else experiencing similar problems?
[Desire General] Mark One:
No problem here. Sounds like your compass. Do you have the same prob in street view?
[Desire General] adibadi:
Yes, same problem with street view.

I noticed that if I turn the phone around a bit, tilt up and down while rotating it, then it starts to work. As soon as I kill the app and start it again, I have to do it again. It's as if it's doing some calibration on the g-sensors while the app is running, which is then forgets when the app is killed.

Again, the exact same behaviour happens on street view and sky map.
[Desire General] adibadi:
Same thing is happening with the "Compass" app. At least this one gives me some feedback: "Abnormal magnetic field detected. Please calibrate your device". Doing a "figure-8" calibration solves this in every app, but the problem is that it never stays calibrated. I'm hoping someone else will be able to chime in with a possible fix before I try to do a full factory restore.
[Desire General] adibadi:
If anyone else is having this problem, a factory reset fixed it.

It's a bit of a shame because now I don't know what was really causing the problem.
[Desire General] LabRat02:
I'm glad I am not the only one having this problem but I am not going to reset the phone. Has anyone called Sprint about this issue? If I have to reset this thing then I will be resetting to different hardware and a Windows 7 device in a few months.

Going to call Sprint to find out what they can do.
[Desire General] nitemarc:
I am afraid that factory reset is gonna be only one possible solution. Take a look at this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=747398 I faced similar issue on my Desire. In a nutshell, all apps using embedded compass functionality just acted up (including Google Sky Map) after OTA update to 2.2.
[Desire General] Bilbo Fraggins:
I had a similar problem and then realised it was the magnetic clip on my case causing the problem :p
[Desire General] 3722:
I've experienced the same problem too.

When I started skymap, the orientation didn't change, no matter how much I was waving the phone.

But today I tried to just uninstall it, reboot and then install it again. Strangely enough, now it's working again :).

So you could probably try that first before considering hard reset.
[Desire General] Svennebannan:
Every time I use a program that uses the compass I do this trick or the compass wont work for me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP3d00Hr14o
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] flunkyou2:
# Ensure you have unzipped the SDK, then open a command prompt to the extract location. Change to the 'tools directory.

just need help on this step :( how do i open the command prompt in the folder?

can someone helpme and tell me in a noobi way :)

Cheers
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] flunkyou2:
ok got that working now it keeps saying Device not found in CMD :(
[General Topics] cheeseus:
Hi,

I have suddenly encountered the problem. I can search for videos but when I open the video to watch, at first I get the YouTube logo top bar in the player, and the "Loading" symbol, but these disappear after 3-4 seconds and nothing happens. I tried this on many videos. I haven't touched the settings on the player, and until a week ago I was watching YouTube videos without any problems.

Any ideas what can be wrong?
[General Topics] nikodr:
I have the same problem.At first i thought i did something wrong.I reinstalled application,then afterwards i even had a change of Rom and windows 6,5 reinstalled,then installed 1.3.6 version,nothing does not work on youtube.

Maybe youtube changed something?Should i send an email to the creators of the program?I am a registered user of it.

It is annoying as i would want to view youtube with my mobile.
[General Topics] eyeseal:
Ya! My coreplayer cannot play the videos on youtube too. It displays sth like FFFFFFF(error code).Can sbd help us?
[General Topics] cheeseus:
It's YouTube's fault. They are again changing something about the way their videos are encoded. No idea why.

The guy who created mVu Mobile Viewer - bik2000 - said so, when I asked him why I was unable to play YouTube videos from his program (which launches CorePlayer anyway).

I guess/hope that when the change YouTube are doing is final, CorePlayer will be released in a new version, which will once again be able to play the videos. Till then, the only option is to first download the video, then play it in CorePlayer or TCPMP.
[General Topics] f_ammari:
Is there a way to download the the video from YouTube on the PPC? On the PC I use YouTube downloader (who also released a new version lately to cope with the recent changes in YouTube).

Thanks.
[General Topics] Doo Doo:
you can download from youtube on ppc using this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=690288 :D:D:D
[General Topics] ruenigma:
Same issue..... my CorePlayer 1.3.6 (7427) has also stopped playing youtube all of a sudden.
[General Topics] srmz:
Same issue. No youtube on coreplayer 1.3.6 running over windows mobile 6.5 on my HTC HD2

Regards
[General Topics] f_ammari:
Cool app thanks :)

Well, until the CorePlayer issue is resolved, I'm using YouTube application to watch youtube vids on my PPC. I'm finding it very neat and I love it even more than CorePlayer.

This is how you get it:

From PIE (not from NetFront Browser or Opera).

Go to: m.youtube.com/app

Wait a moment and the .CAB download will start.

Install and enjoy.

I tried going to the link using NetFront Browser 4.0 and Opera 10 and I was directed to a page that says my device is not supported. So it seems you only have to use pocket IE to download the application.
[General Topics] yaydın41:
ammar

sukran ammar

maasallah
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] rjstep3:
I am using the Athena Project 4.0, as downloaded and installed yesterday.

When I use the keyboard, and I remember this from when I was using stock ROM some time ago, it sometimes won't type lowercase, but insists on behaving as if Caps Lock were on.

I have tried to fiddle with the lower left button and with wthe shift button, and both together, but nothing works until I reset.

Is this just something that requires a reset to get rid of? Am I missing something?

thanks

rjstep3
[Desire General] Pitbull_Raven:
Hi all.

Probably a very stupid question with a very easy solution, but so far I haven't had any luck:

I have just installed ChompSMS. The software has built in SMS notifications that show up in the notification bar. My problem is that so does the Android / Sense standard notification. I have tried to find a way to disable it so that only Chomp's notification shows up, but can't figure out where.

Help anyone?!
[Desire General] kreci:
I have no idea how to solve it. I have charged my Desire to 100% and after 3 hours I have only 20% left. I have not been using it much. Before upgrade it took about 24h to be only 20% left... Moreover the phone is hot when I touch it. How to solve it...?
[Desire General] bluethunder2k:
I'm having the same issue!

It seems that the phone does not go to sleep (up time same as awake time)

Any help is appreciated as my phone dies within hours :(
[Desire General] jordo.75:
Mine has done the exact same thing... With in approx 3 hours it had gone from 100% down to 50%, in the same normal usage in 2.1, it would of been lucky to drop 15% if that!!! :confused:
[Desire General] eddyther:
Mine dropped from 45% when i went to sleep, to 0 this morning!!

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[Desire General] /rant/:
I cannot reproduce this, my battery life is a little better than with Eclair. However, I'd recommend downloading Android System Info from market. In the CPU Panel, you have the statistics of CPU clocking, it should give you heads up concerning a phone not going to sleep.

As for reference: my phone's CPU runs at 250 MHz 85% of the time, 1 GHz for like 10% and the rest is somewhere in between.

If you find anything, you should consider downloading Auto Task Manager as well and try killing anything unnecessary. It is not recommended to be using a Task Manager, but it might help in this case. Good luck!
[Desire General] eddyther:
Wich one?

There are 2 with same name. Google's and an other one

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[Desire General] roomkokos:
Did you all restart after reboot? And did you flash the latest radio?

I flashed to froyo 7 hrs ago, played an hour with it to see the new features and went to bed and woke up still 80% of battery (after mentioned 7hrs, 6 of which my phone and i were sleeping ;) )
[Desire General] bluethunder2k:
Seems to be 245 mhz 50% of the time and 1ghz around 40% of the time, the problem is that I can see that my phone isn't going to sleep according to the battery info
[Desire General] eddyther:
The new radio is already flashed with froyo, isnt it?

And how do you flash a radio without rooting?

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[Desire General] RaptorRVL:
Have you tried a factory reset aka hard reset? It could also be some app that keeps the phone awake.
[Desire General] /rant/:
The one from ElectricSheep. The other one is probably not from Google, but from Googe. I'd also recommend looking at battery draining apps in the settings (certain bad live wallpapers can harm battery).

As said before, if you aren't using your phone all time and CPU clock at 250 MHz is less than 80% of the time, something is seriously wrong.
[Desire General] ac1987mlnx:
I have the same issue..

After froyo update, the battery lasts only a few hours not even using the phone much. If i put in flight mode the battery not discharge ..

I think it's a problem with radio and not of applications. I already tried hard reset..

Moreover, the phone become very hot..

I hope the htc resolve the problem. I'm in holiday :(

excuse me for my english :)
[Desire General] jaztim:
mine is the exact opposite. battery seems a lot better after hours of wifi browsing and updates it seems to be holding out better.
[Desire General] eddyther:
Thks rant, using 50% at 980 Mhz but i use it all The time now.

Will wait for a full day for statistics

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[Desire General] chichoko:
Same to me! I suppose your batteries are out.. maybe bad from the start? Better check it with customer support..
[Desire General] /rant/:
I think HTC did good work here, but I'm sad to hear other people are having issues. Anyhow, I don't think our impression of better battery life is purely due to real improvements, but also because they fixed the battery icon (like Apple did with the signal, but in the other direction...).

Prior to FroYo, my battery icon would look like "50%" when there would still be like 75% power, "90%" would look like 75% and so on. I noticed that when I tried several battery widgets. You know, it's all psychological :eek:
[Desire General] Tomaco:
I had 55% yesterday night and at the morning i had 49%

idk if its bad or good
[Desire General] bluethunder2k:
Found the problem!!! It was an LED widget stopping my phone from going to sleep, if you have it make sure to get rid of it ASAP!!!

Cheers guys!!
[Desire General] RaptorRVL:
Please tell us which one, what is it called! :D

And please send the dev a message, so he/she can fix it, seems like a nice thing to do at least :p
[Desire General] bluethunder2k:
It was called LED light by picolyl
[Desire General] kreci:
I have discovered it as well but had not time to write. My camera has not been working as well. It started to work after switching led on and off with this widget and removed it from home. Battery is ok as well now (it is a widget that looks like other HTC settings switchers - like wifi, gps etc...)
[Desire General] kmetek:
Same here...at 11pm, 100%,,,in 7am morning 78%.
[Desire General] Bouncer5:
Same app also plays nightmare with the camera :rolleyes:
[Desire General] Ronok:
Same here. I even think it's noticable in the battery statistics (settings). Top 3 is now "Mobile stand-by" and "phone inactive" followed by "android-system". I think android-system was number one in 2.1.

Those 2.1 3rd party apps are causing the most problems it seems. There's another topic about the Led app that disturbed the HTC camera.
[Desire General] aindow:
GUYS THAT APP IS NOT FROM GOOGLE. Look closely, it's from "Googe Inc", not "Google Inc".
[Desire General] rodhull:
The LED light app should be redundant now that the official HTC Flashlight app is included with the stock HTC ROM.
[Desire General] /rant/:
Yeah. And I think he should be pulled from the market for this. He's obviously trying to mislead people.
[Desire General] aindow:
For that reason alone i will not download the app. If he is misleading about his name, what else could he be misleading about (is the app safe?). Other app developers using their own name are doing well.
[Desire General] aindow:
The Electric Sheep App - "Android System Info" seems really good, downloaded and tried it now.
[Desire General] sagaff:
Honestly, the OTA Froyo has significantly improved my battery perfromance.

1. With wifi and 3g on browsed internet for 20 minutes, download apps, played games for 30 mins and made phone 4 phonecalls each about 3 minutes duration, my battery went down fromm 100 to 99.

2 switch off wifi and 3g, phone in sleep mode but made couple of phone calls. within that 3hours phone still remain 100%.

With other ROMs posted .. this is very unlikely. Even for no 2 the battery will go down from 100 to 92 or 91 percent. I thing the OTA Froyo did what it's supposed to do - improve battery life.
[Desire General] omitron:
My battery also drains a lot faster since the upgrade. I do have a LED app but not the one described above though, by the way, how do you determine which app might be the culprit?
[Desire General] th3:
I just experienced the same and found WiFi doesn't sleep after 15 mins as I set. Major bummer!

Anyone else have this?

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[Desire General] sparksalot:
My battery also drained quickly today.
[Desire General] aindow:
Well my battery was fully charged last night and after 22 hours and 36mins i still have 16% remaining. This is with Wifi turned on, email updates on two accounts every 4 hours, news updates every 2 hours, weather every 3 hours. Using the XDA app on and off all day, sending and receiving texts, and looking up the opening times to a store over 3g.

Cell Standby 27%

Wifi 25%

Phone idle 24%

Android System 18%

Display 6%
[Desire General] hungrysquid:
Man, am I the only one with Display draining 60%+ battery, even after 2 weeks of usage...
[Desire General] kmetek:
watchsavy someone reported draining?
[Desire General] bandit_knight:
The same problem here. It looks like the battery power is eaten very quickly even when in standby (like 10% in an hour). In the SystemPanel app I can see that System process takes 7-8% CPU almost all the time. Previously the entire list of processe did not take that much in average. For me the problem started to occur after a hard reset.
[Desire General] sparksalot:
I just left it overnight (about 9 hours) and I got only 26 minutes awake time, and about 4% battery drain. Will post again this eve to say what it was like after my work shift.