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[Vibrant General] s15274n:
I find the Vibrant better in every regard. The one thing I miss is how speedy development came to the N1 (for obvious reasons). I (and the developers) are more accustom to HTC phones...

BUT, speed, screen, sound, keyboard, I really like everything better.

Some people complain about a GPS issue, that a lot of us do not have.....

You wont have froyo immediately....

I like how solid the N1 feels in my hand....

those are about the only things I can think of.
[Vibrant General] stepinmyworld:
I sold my rooted nexus one for this.

The good:

Better screen (WOW) you'll see

Better Speaker :)

Faster Data Pulling (you'll be surprised how good edge is even )

Better widgets (touchwiz is lovely)

The bad:

doesn't open apps as fast as Nexus

Switching from 3g to Edge takes way longer than the nexus

Battery a tiny bit worse than nexus

Feels horrible compared to the nexus build (the vibrant is cheaply built) PLASTIC

going from screen to screen, you will get a slight jerk... not smooth like launcherpro/ADW or 2.2 Froyo default home

Other than that, this phone is lovely and its a keeper. I'm waiting for a replacement battery. maybe the 3500Mah they had for the nexus one.That will also put some weight on it. :) it's like a feather now.
[Vibrant General] Gr8gorilla:
I too sold my N1. I did for all the aforementioned reasons plus I really like being able to take the phone instore for warranty issues instead of waiting a week or two for htc to get my phone fix it and ship it back.....
[Vibrant General] dills84:
The battery specs on the Vibrant seem WAY better than the N1, but I've been seeing some complaints on battery life. Whats the deal with that? Was Samsung overexerting the standby time?

I'll miss froyo, But once it hits the vibrant I assume it will be BLAZING fast with JIT on the hummingbird. Besides the speed, Flash in the browser kinda sucks anyways on N1 (slow!). So going back to 2.1 wont be a huge loss.

I love my nexus, but its had its issues. I'm currently on my 3rd swap out from HTC due to the screen not working and dust under the digitizer. Hoping I have good luck with the vibrant and its GPS issues.

I guess I'll have to wait and see which wins... I plan on keeping both for a couple of weeks before I decide.

thanks for your opinions!
[Vibrant General] zephiK:
I beg to differ.. its user preference, I prefer it being lightweight its a lot different than the G1 whereas it feels like a brick. I don't think its a con whatsoever, doesn't feel cheap at all.. check out the videos where they try and "scratch" and damage it. The phone could take a hit.
[Vibrant General] tariqgibran:
Just got the Vibrant today, bought the Nexus on the day it was announced. I'm likely sending the Vibrant back and keeping the Nexus. Here are my first impressions:

1: Unbelievably light and, unfortunately, cheap feeling, particularly the buttons (Vol. and on/off). The build quality of the Nexus One feels like it's in an entirely different league here.

2: Nice screen size though my phone will not display a true white or grey. Instead, everything has a cyan/blue tinge. This actually is my biggest issue with the phone right now. The Nexus gives true whites and greys and, even with the brightness all the way up, no true white or gray on the vibrant. Menus, text, market and web pages show this every time I open them - it's driving me nuts.

3: The music app contains a real to life Equalizer and a number of other sound settings. This is one feature I really love and will miss if I send the phone back. Sound quality is very good, though not through the crap headphones Samsung provides. Here again, the quality of the Nexus headphones are noticeably better.

4: Neither the Compass or the GPS work correctly on my phone making the phone useless until a fix is released for what I actually use it most for - Google Places and voice navigation.

5: The image quality of photo's taken with the camera are very good for a phone. Auto weight balance works perfectly under various light sources. Much better than Nexus in this department, though I do miss the flash - which I used mostly as a flashlight!

6: The size feels a little uncomfortable in the hand compared to the Nexus but that's likely just something I have gotten used to.

7: Battery life seems like it will be much better than Nexus.

Anyway, I know the GPS and Compass will be fixed and perhaps I could get used to the flimsy build quality but the screen is a deal breaker as I expected it to be superior to the Nexus One. It's not. If I had to guess, I suspect Samsung has used some sort of Polarizing film to reduce glare outside in bright light which is resulting in the blue/cyan tinge.
[Vibrant General] djunio:
Sold my Nexus and both docks, got a nice chunk if change and got the Vibrant. Its the best phone out right now IMO.
[Vibrant General] lp894:
As he stated at the end though, the GPS will soon be fixed(officially that is) by Samsung, and you'll probably have to get used to the feel of it vs the Nexus 1...but I had an opportunity to buy either, and I used both for 1 day, and couldn't put the Vibrant down so I went with it.

Edit: and though not as good as an LED light, because the Vibrant uses SAMOLED the white screens at full brightness are ridiculously bright lol. So if you use one of the screen flash light apps, it'd probably be the brightest...but again, it's not as bright as an LED flash light. But Trust me...it definitely works lol
[Vibrant General] tariqgibran:
The screen on the specific Vibrant I received is nowhere near as bright as the Nexus screen, even at full brightness and the cyan/blue tinge is not so subtle. Many are stating that the blue look is normal with OLED's yet neither my Nexus nor my wife's have this problem at all. There is also growing evidence that the Vibrant display is not consistant from phone to phone, with some reporting the blue issue more than others, even when examining four vibrants simultaneously (so this is not just subjective). Thus, don't buy the whole explanation that Samsung added mor blue to counteract future blue degradation over time. I think what those of us with extremely tinged blue screens are experiencing is a quality control issue, plain and simple - perhaps it has something to do with an inconsistency in the SOLED manufacturing process, I don't know. I do know that all OLED's do not have this issue and, apparently, not even all Samsung SOLED Vibrants!

Regarding the "cheap" feel, my volume button rattles when I handle the phone and has no definite "detent" feel. Perhaps mine is unique, but this definitely lends a flimsy feel to the phone, particularly compared to the firm feel of the Nexus buttons. Think I wil return this vibrant and see what a replacement offers as I must have received a dud. To be fair, the Nexus my wife received initially had to be returned due to a quality control issue. I think most of these devices today are at the bleeding edge of manufacturing technology.
[Vibrant General] WilliamStern:
I got rid of my 3 week old N1 for the Vibrant, and I have no regrets at all. I'm very much in love with this phone. I think the only major issue with the phone for most is the GPS problems, but Samsung already said they're working on a fix.

Yeah, the phone is very light weight, but as soon as I bought the thick gel case from T-Mo it really did add a great weight to the phone.

I'm a phone whore that switches phones pretty much every time a new phone hits the market, and I've gotta say the Vibrant just might be the best I've ever owned.
[Vibrant General] jerhoyet:
I sort of gave up my Nexus One for a Vibrant. My wife wanted my Nexus One because T-Mobile still doesn't have a good phone for photographs (Vibrant included).

I had just gotten her a MT3G Slide, so I trade it back to them for the Vibrant.

So far, the only thing I have to complain about is the lack of a Camera flash, it completely hinders the camera in most lighting situations after 6PM EST, haha.

Also, the body does feel cheaply constructed. The Nexus One had the most solid design of any phone I have ever owned or held in my hand.

I miss my N1, but the Vibrant is a GREAT alternative. I can say I love this phone, and most of that love is coming from the BEAUTIFUL screen.
[Vibrant General] hollabax:
You sound like a PR rep for samsung, not an actual end user. It's comments and sentiments like these that make forums useless for researching products. Too many people bitterly rationalizing bad purchases.

As an owner of a Vibrant I'm probably returning mine, after waiting the full 14 days to see if Samsung would at least indicate that they're working on any sort of fix. They finally started talking about the GPS, but there is no mention of the compass problem yet and I suspect it will remain broken.

The sick part is there are so many people new to android that they don't even realize how broken the compass is. Try using Layar, wikitude, anything related to augmented reality or positional awareness and you'll realize how useless it is.

If you don't care about fancy augmented reality/positional awareness applications or GPS working properly then the vibrant is a great phone.
[Vibrant General] tariqgibran:
Thanks, you made gave me a good laugh today.

+1 on everything you said.
[Vibrant General] tariqgibran:
Just out of curiosity, are the GPS and Compass interrelated somehow such that a GPS fix would fix the compass? OR, is there distinct hardware functions that control the two independently?
[Vibrant General] bryon13:
Last I heard, they think the compass is what breaks the gps, according to Tmo and Samsung. Which worries me, because a compass is just a floating magnet. If it's hardware broken, and that's what breaks gps, there may be NO way to fix it. ):

I really hope I'm wrong.

I'd like to thank Swype for all of my typos.
[Vibrant General] kolyan:
my GPS works fine.....I dont use compass and never did. Gave my Nexus to GF and using Vibrant. While there are many improvement to be made, its MUCH better then Nexus when it was released (I had 3 replacements, all 3 had: 3g issues, light sensor issues, pink camera, and crappy touchscreen....phone was almost useless, but after 3rd party ROMs, Nexus became a good phone with many flaws fixed)

yeah, compass seems to be ****ed, just checked. will compare to Nexus today. ps. navigation-wise I checked both and they seemed to perform the same.
[Vibrant General] kolyan:
read that compass is software issue and should be fixed. i think its fair to say that we ALL need to give Samsung a chance to fix issues. so far there was no update to Vibrant and it WILL come end of September....maybe October....

and its gonna be a pretty damn big update, not only we get fixes for bugs and possibly more add-ons (features) to Touchwiz, we are also getting a Froyo !
[Vibrant General] mafaesto:
I had the nexus, and already I've had more problems with the nexus than I did the Vibrant, it's by far faster and more usable. I LOVED my Nexus, but still..seeing all the things wrong with it I definitely like the Vibrant better. True multitouch, super crisp clear screen where even Avatar looks like you're watching it in stereoscopic 3D. Everything has been superb. The GPS problem is a given and I read up before I bought. Still more satisfied, an yes battery life is better as I could never get a "full" days use out of my Nexus even with everything turned off.
[Vibrant General] kolyan:
Yep , compass is broken. Tested with nexus side by side
[Vibrant General] ciryan:
I currently have both and have been switching between the two for quite a while now. Personally I think they are both great phones. Each one of them have their advantages:

SGS Pros:

Screen is flat out awesome

Swype is stock

Built in on/off controls in the notification menu

16 GB internal storage

Nice preloaded apps

SGS Cons:

No trackball

No notification indicator

Only on 2.1 (currently)

Nexus Pros:

Trackball with multicolor notification

Feels more solid

Better support android support

2.2 currently

Nexus Cons:

Rattle in camera area (used to drive me nuts...I deal with it)

minimal internal storage - had to root to move all apps to sd (I guess not really a con any more)

3g to edge issue

I use launcher pro plus on both phones so all other launchers aren't in use on either phone. The nexus one is now set up very much to my likings, but I had to root and go on a tireless search for the right rom, which Enom's turned out to be suited just for me. Once I found Enoms this put the SGS and the Nexus almost equal. But I feel no need to really root the SGS as it is set up awesome straight out of the box.

I like having both phones as I appreciate the work of each and honestly the Nexus on is going to be my Rooted customized phone and the SGS is going to be my stocker.

To choose or recommend only one phone is tough...don't think I can answer that. If the SGS had a notification LED, even as simple as the Cliq, I would go with the SGS.
[Vibrant General] jz9833:
I'd say the nexus with Enom's rom is faster than the vibrant right now, but that is because of the JIT compiller.

It really comes down to what you prefer. The best hardware on the planet or the best software.
[Vibrant General] trevorwhopkins:
I have had two N1's and two Vibrants, both had to be returned due to QC issues. The N1 LCD cracked without it even falling or anything, and my SGS had the wierd thinks-its-usb-is-always-on thing going on.

I like the SGS regardless of any flaws for one reason: the screen. The SAMOLED part is nice, and Avatar [the one time I ever watched it] reeeaallly shows it off. however thats not what I like about it. 4" is really the perfect size. 4.3 was too big, and no Android screens were wide enough for me to type comfortably. I love the size.

Tmobile has very spotty coverage where I live in TX. Alot areas its full 3g and blazing fast. Then you like, cross the street, and barely keep 2g. In my house right now I have to set my phone down so my hand doesn't make it lose its one bar to get a text message out. Forget 3g, except in my closet strangely. So I have seen first hand the sensitivity of the antenna problems. The N1 was worse. But the SGS is not exactly impressive.

Touchwiz Dialer is good. Touchwiz launcher is pretty good. All the Iphone-aping icons is not good. And Touchwiz is so buggy its a wonder they didn't just let it be vanilla just to keep people from thinking the phone is slow. The SGS is very fast, but has alot of wierd bugs that make it hang up or seem slow.

The N1 does feel high quality, especially due to the metal, but the SGS is more impressively light than it is cheap feeling. It does look to much like an Iphone though, especially considering it looks like the OLD Iphone.

My SGS makes me frustrated sometimes, especially with the lagging, but most times I am very happy with it.

I'm going to fan the flames here and say one thing though: I've watched HTC go from awesome phones on WM that needed constant modding to work right, to rock solid hardware with a little bland styling and still WM... etc etc... to the DInc. I got that in between the N1 and SGS. That phone honestly blows both of these phones away as far as quality. It never lagged. Ever. It has a working camera... with no lag... and a flash. The VZW network I guess explains its awesome reception, but still no prob there. If that thing had a 4" screen I would light my SGS on fire to get it.

But Im reasonably sure that once Froyo and JIT and the GPS fix are released, our phones will be mostly solid, then the modding community can rip out touchwiz and fix the other small problems. I really want that freaking flash though. Night Mode is okay, but its not a flash.
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
Lol. Please. Gps is useless. Compass is useless. Touchwiz is laggy. Bad proprietary fs on the internal sd.

The software issues completely undermine the hardware in these phones. I don't recommend any one buy a sgs phone before one week after the update. The phones should have Never been released in this condition. If thea was a microsoft or apple phone, half you people would be laughing hysterically.

I don't believe anyone's gps works. 2 vibrants in this house don't

Displays on the two t mo stores here don't, and the vibrant for the saleswoman in one of the stores didn't have a working gps. 5/5 don't work. My experiences master more than singer unsubstantiated claims on a forum.

These phones aren't worth anything until these issues are fixed, if ever. The screen is NOT worth it -not even close.

If you wasn't a new phone with better hardware, you can always change to a carrier that has a decent choice of phones (which is anyone but t mo).
[Vibrant General] jz9833:
my gps is usable, but often jumps around. I can't just blindly follow it like how I could on my nexus, but if you pay attention it isn't bad. BTW, you are driving so aren't you supposed to be paying attention to where you are going?

I do agree though that t-mobile is FAR behind everyone else in terms of cool phones. The G2 release only highlights that. 800 mHz phone? Seriously, in today's market?
[Vibrant General] pavvy:
Why did you come back to T-Mobile after that? Just curious (the DInc is the only other phone out there right now which I would actually like to have, if it were a TMO phone)
[Vibrant General] ram130:
I just went from the Nexus One to the Vibrant. GPS locks in 20sec for me, but is mostly incorrect :( and thinks I'm 10blocks away at times. It almost got me lost a couple times..anyway three questions for you n1 to vibrant owners.

1. Did all your applications automatically restore after you log in??

2. Is the battery life better for you?

3. I switch my SD card to the one I had in my N1. No more Avatar, suggestions?
[Vibrant General] shrapnelx:
You can just copy the movie from the old card to the new one. I just copied the whole movie folder from my old card to a new one and it worked fine for me.
[Vibrant General] ram130:
Yea just found out 5min after I posted..at first I thought it was an issue with the sd card cause it wasn't picking up..it works great now..Does anyone know an answer for question number 1 tho?
[Vibrant General] ram130:
I guess thats a no..
[Vibrant General] jz9833:
you have to redownload them from the market. but you wont have to pay again for the ones you bought,
[Vibrant General] wfagan59:
I loved my N1, but hated AT&T. Amazon's .01 deal on the Vibrant sent my wife and I to Tmobile. We had them back when the G1 came out and loved it, but moving made us switch to the iphones back in the day. The N1 stock was good, but the weird touchscreen not reacting to where I touched never got better. Cyanogen's nightlies were awesome, I loved the DSP settings, loved the led flash for a flashlight, and the goodies that come with Froyo. It did feel sooo much better than the vibrant, but the bigger and much better screen makes up for that. Plus, that drop in weight will make the vibrant much more likely to survive a fall than the heavy N1, which I'm prone to do from time to time. I've flashed a few roms on the vibrant and kernels, but until Froyo and the GPS (yes both our phones are unusable with google maps/navigation) are fixed, I'm going to miss my old N1 very much.

For all you N1-Vibrant people, don't go look at the N1 forums anymore. Not only do they make you miss all the awesome effort and results from the devs, but I almost miss the lack of *****ing / whining / complaining that happens over there more. All the Galaxy S forums look like a bunch of 12 year olds keep posting. I'm just going to hang out and wait for this thursday hopefully, or the great guys in the Cyanogenmod group.

Thanks for all the devs efforts here. XDA devs make Android soo much better, Google should be paying you guys.
[Vibrant General] jz9833:
almost miss? I hate how on this section of the forum you can not even be objective without someone flaming you. Back on the n1 forums we could discuss something for what it was, but here, dont even try sugar coating things...

In my opinion the vibrant is really starting to show all the dark sides of android. Fragmentation, mercy of OEMs, lack of support accountability, bloat ware, etc.
[Vibrant General] Ashex1:
I've been really disappointed by the gps/compass on this. I tested it with my N1 and it's way off and despite all the fixes and new firmware out today gps is still not functional.

And regarding apps being restored, it doesn't reinstall the apps once you login with your account. I'm under the impression that settings are kept separate per IMEI/device as on my N1 when I changed firmware and signed it, it restored my apps again.

But with the Vibrant despite having changed firmware a few times, it doesn't restore the apps, if you go into the market it will list all of them but that's it.
[Vibrant General] dinan:
I'm considering switching from my Nexus One... I love my nexus one but having a SAMOLED screen is really a big plus for me because my N1 is almost useless outside. But other than that I can't find many faults with my N1 running a custom ROM, had Froyo for a while now so it's nice. Not sure if it's worth the GPS/compass problems to switch... any suggestions? (I can upgrade with T-mo for $199 with a new contract).
[Vibrant General] ram130:
I suggest you wait until 2.2 hits the galaxy s line and see if half the issues are fixed.

This really sucks yow. I spent two hours restoring my apps, now I'm afriad to flash a rom and do a wipe...why Samsung?? I swear, stock android will be my next phone...:mad:

So true.

Yea redownload 100 apps was not easy either..just to have them relink to the market. One thing I HATE about the Vibrant and all galaxy s phone is the fact they changed the way you delete a msg(no longer two press) and the END CALL button..
[Vibrant General] demo23019:
Im an N1 user and picked up a vibrant yesterday and so far im liking it.

-Seems significantly faster than N1 allot snappier...even with this on 2.1 and N1 on 2.2

-The GPU is ridiculously fast and handles anything u throw at it at a great framerate.

-SAMOLED seems a little brighter than the N1. And doesn't have that slight purplish hue Whites are very white.

-Build quality is OK N1 seems more solid but not a big deal its makes up for it with hardware.

-Not sure about battery because i just got but haven't had to charge in a day so i guess that's good.

-I like the stock vanilla ROM on the N1 over the vibrant but i have rooted so can remove bloatware and removed tmobile boot and shutdown garbage..ect

-Vibrant doesn't have any indicator for missed called, text...ect like the N1 trackball light.

-Vibrant has better sound quality esp from external speaker over N1.

-GPS seems to have issues but haven't really tested or tried a fix.

-Lacks camera flash but seems to take decent low light pics.

More pro's than cons...so far im keeping it
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BlackedOut08R1:
Anybody that is still running it, can you tell me what 4g speeds you are seeing?

Im in Kansas City, Ya Ya sprints hq, and im only seeing around 2-4mbs a second...

have any of you switched to the newest radios? and wimax?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wildgillis:
I could tell you but I won't because you cant read instructions

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=695844
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rjmjr69:
Please read the rules yourself.

As for your answer op. I have damage but I Dont have 4g here and obviously dont live near you lol. good luck with finding an answer ignore the idiots
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] regalpimpin:
I'm running DC 3.2.3 with the radios that came along right at the same time as that release.

2-4 seems about right. Can't get more than one bar of 4g.

I'm in KC to.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BlackedOut08R1:
i guess it really wasnt much of a question..just a general things thus why i posted it here..but my apology
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BlackedOut08R1:
i can full 4g at the girls house, but thats pushing it and its stil only 4mbs
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] im0rtalz:
Sounds like you got your 4G back up and working? If so congrats!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BlackedOut08R1:
:D

hell yeah man, thanks alot to you!