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[EVO 4G General] edtate:
Well remember guys, the leaked documents did say they were enabling 4g mac id verification, which would prevent 4g hotspot use without the proper credentials (the $30 hotspot charge unlocks that).

Think about it; the big data hog is going to be through 4g, as the higher the bandwith, the more your probably going to download. On the other hand, 3g's data usage is probably far less than that of 4g because of it's download limits. Of course there's going to be even more usage when your tethered to another device, but it's not like it's going to be gigabytes of data per hour as you wouldn't even have the ability to do so on 3g as you would with 4g.

It would make sense for Sprint to charge those who use more data (alike tiers) and allow those that don't with the ability to at least share their connection with another device. It's a win-win situation; Sprint gets to make their customers happy by allowing 3g tethering while still being able to charge its most active users, and we the customers get 3g tethering (not really important to me since I've had tethering since I rooted ages ago lol).
[EVO 4G General] pecosROB:
Makes sense to me, I was thinking that more people would be interested in tethering to 4G because of the speed is comparable (if not better) than DSL connections and slow (more like cheap) cable connections.

If this is the case, that's awesome, because the only reason I'd tether is to see a website that my phone had a hard time rendering (which should be nothing now) and to download something for the computer. And my city doesn't have 4G. But if I was in a 4G market, I'd still be happy with free 3G tethering.

I don't think you'll find too many people complaining, except those with non-Android devices. But that's their fault for not moving over to Android!
[EVO 4G General] Plancy:
2 reps weren't sure, neither was their supervisor, we need a confirmation from a higher up.
[EVO 4G General] edtate:
Lol, bet you wish you lived in centex... It's amazing how they have 4g there but not where I live in phoenix which is the 5th largest metropolitan area in the u.s lol.

Good thing about 3g is that at least for me, I get pretty respectable speeds; usually about 2mb/s down and .5 up. With that I can still stream videos and download things faster than a snails pace.
[EVO 4G General] Plancy:
How about now? Mine dropped 5 fold since a hard reset.
[EVO 4G General] drmacinyasha:
Hey, y'know, I've got a PERFECT solution to guarantee you get it for free:

Shut up and flash CM6.
[EVO 4G General] edtate:
What does CM6 have to do with anything??? Any phone with root can install wifi tether...... Cm6 may be good, but cyanogen didn't invent the wheel....
[EVO 4G General] spidyspidey:
If they use mac id verification wouldn't we lose tethering, even if we have root, over 4g?
[EVO 4G General] TheBiles:
Sprint isn't going to magically start giving out a $30/month feature for free. You're either going to get it shut off or be billed for it.
[EVO 4G General] Plancy:
Ha :D. No 3g verification :)?
[EVO 4G General] edtate:
Hard to say. I don't know the specifics but some sort of mac id verification had to be in place before to allow people who payed for the hotspot app to use it and disallow those that didn't.

I'm guessing they only used the 3g data connection's mac as verification before. At the time, it didn't really matter which connection they choosed, whatever mac assigned had to be tied to an account that had the hotspot app paid for.

Even then we root users were able to tether/hotspot with wifi tether on 4g. If they do indeed allow for 3g tethering, then in my eyes they're only moving the verification process from 3g to 4g; with no real change resulting from this move to us root users. But then again nobody really knows what the hell sprint is going to do. Only time will tell.
[EVO 4G General] Lyiondr:
I assumed they were binding the 4G Mac ID to the sprint number for launching the application and verifying you have the Add-On.

I would think they are not checking the MAC origins of all data. I am not rooted yet, so I can only test via PDANet, but I will check later tonight to see.
[EVO 4G General] edtate:
My understanding of it was that similar to a wireless router in which mac addresses for devices can be filtered to a specific list. While I'm probably wrong, this was the most logical explanation to their wording and policies to me.
[EVO 4G General] kthejoker20:
This is why we "clone" mac id's.

nuff said.

Cable companies do this with cable modems and routers, so that you can't use a router. They want you to use one modem per computer to make money.
[EVO 4G General] Bang3r:
As on 2.1, you could connect devices, but whilst said devices are/were connected, you cannot access the interwebs through the phone without paying the $30 for it...I believe it's still the same.

So, yes, you can connect to the phone as hotspot, but no internet access. Unless I'm mistaken.
[EVO 4G General] texasez:
I keep getting error 67 when i try to use the hotspot with 3g. Any way to get around this?
[EVO 4G General] baiatul:
I think that's exactly what it's going to happen.... 20 bucks or so...
[EVO 4G General] docprego:
I'm wondering this too. I have read a few reports now of people saying that the hotspot worked after the 2.2 OTA update. I wonder if it works with 3G but 4G requires the monthly fee?
[EVO 4G General] Albaholic:
Wouldn't you need to clone the mac of someone who is paying for the service? It would get spotted pretty easy IMO.. Especially with heavy usage. The legal ramifications can make trying to do this not worthwhile.

I don't know of any US based isp's that do not allow use of a router nowadays. I feel sorry for anyone that pays for multiple home ISP's
[EVO 4G General] orris:
On my 2.1 unrooted phone I was able to turn on hot spot and get 3g/4g on my laptops. I still got the "error 67", but I just dismissed it and it still worked like a charm. Was getting 8mbs down and about 1mb up without paying for it and I wasn't charged (yet). Once I updated to 2.2 I cannot do either 3g or 4g tethering with the Hotspot.
[EVO 4G General] wildgillis:
I prefer to stay out of prison
[EVO 4G General] xlrdxrevengex:
my evo will not allow 3g hot sport with 2.2 since i do not have 4g in my area could not test that out.

Sprint ask's what can you do with 4g? I say absolutely f**king nothing!
[EVO 4G General] epphllps:
Yep...maybe one day...but I'm sure i would have two or so phones by the time 4g is here. :(
[EVO 4G General] MaxPatlick:
what do you have to do to get charged? I just opened the app and poked around a bit but I never connected another device to it and I never downloaded a single bit from the internet while it was activated for like.. 2 seconds..

If I get a 30 dollar fee on my next bill for that, I'm going to use the free tether app to torrent several gigs of horse porn!!
[EVO 4G General] animal7296:
LOL at the horse porn. And the revival of a thread this old.
[EVO 4G General] alex2792:
The hot spot app sucks,wires tether is much better.
[EVO 4G General] caguirr4:
you have to call sprint and activate the wireless tether plan. but why would you do that you can get wireless tether for free. most of the roms now have the cracked sprint hotspot. and if you are on an aosp build wireless tether is native to froyo.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
If someone has it "free" I would call Sprint and ask if it's on the account. Hotspot is not free on 3G or 4G, period. If you somehow by some miracle are getting it without the feature on your account (which btw you can check if it's on your account on Sprint.com) then I say ride the bus til the wheels fall off.
[EVO 4G General] caguirr4:
Dude are you serious? The sprint native hotspot has been cracked by someone(hate dropping names in these situations)and is available with most roms. If you don't want to go that route once rooted there is a slew of wireless tether apps available for download for free I might add that are available. And if on an aosp build, I run cm6,wireless tether is an option that froyo has and you don't have to download anything.
[EVO 4G General] Estimated Prophet:
Great job picking the one ROM that doesn't have working 4G.
[EVO 4G General] Mactagonist:
Is the cracked Sprint hotspot available separately for use with the stock ROM?
[EVO 4G General] caguirr4:
Yes it is. You can either download a rom to you computer and open up the rom with 7zip and pull the app from there. Or search the forums for it. I have it on my phone not my computer. Give me your email and I can send it to you.
[EVO 4G General] JUST2SUAVE:
Horse porn? You sick ****.
[EVO 4G General] quickbird144:
What about dog?
[EVO 4G General] EliWay:
4G still not working , right?
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
EPIC WIN lmfao, i kind of want to put that in my sig.
[EVO 4G General] Mactagonist:
I tried downloading the Sprint lovers ROM and opening it up, but im not having much success. :)

If you have the cracked WifiRouter.apk file then I would appreciate you emailing it to me! onebrownbuilding@gmail.com Thanks!
[EVO 4G General] johnnycm77:
Hey id like to try. Exactly how does it work. My evolution is rooted and I am running 2.3.1 on mine. Id also like to learn more about rooting and customizing my evolution. Thanks

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[Off-topic] Purple Drama Llama:
First RANT:Okay, this past week I have been getting LOADS of complaints that my signature is:

AND MANY OTHERS....

What do you guys think, I honestly don't think it's very long AT ALL, not even any pictures in it. I never got this when my sig was 1/4 a page long...
[Off-topic] Diamond_dawg:
yeah your sentence looks longer as a result of your sig
[Off-topic] Purple Drama Llama:
I said nothing about my posts, my signature is what i'm talking about :D;)
[Off-topic] Diamond_dawg:
i know what i'm saying is when you write a single sentence...the whole box with your name and sig and everything makes the page longer...so if you post 5 times in one page the page becomes bigger than normal
[Off-topic] vmiguel:
Your sig is fine, altough a bit long.

I do miss the sparkles, even meaning a longer sig...:p:rolleyes:
[Off-topic] orb3000:
Here comes another almost-spam thread from Llama!!!:D

I would prefer that you make a looooooooooooooonger signature instead of creating so many threads:D:D

P.S: JK:)
[Off-topic] Purple Drama Llama:
I did have a 9000x9000 picture as my sig till a mod asked me to delete it because it took up 2 pages.....
[Off-topic] freeincolorado:
My vote is for completely fine. I think people need to stop taking shots at the Drama Llama and as far as "Are llamas dumb?"... No. Alpacas maybe, llamas never. I enjoy your irreverence. Keep the faith, fight the good fight.
[Off-topic] Purple Drama Llama:
Thank you! See, people..... In my book, you sir would be considered "incredibly awesome" :D
[Off-topic] watcher64:
I have no problem with Purple, even the nonsense threads, better a nonsense thread than just invading other peoples threads like some do ...

BUT when I had to scroll 2 pages just to get past the sig to see the next post , that was annoying. I mean come on, a 3 post thread was 9 pages long.

I am all for creative sigs but when they make browsing the thread a chore, that is annoying ...

@purple, PM me with what you want on your sig banner, I have my machine back up and running now ...
[Off-topic] freeincolorado:
Well, thank you. Awesomeness does run in my family.
[Off-topic] freeincolorado:
^^Words To Live By... True story.
[Off-topic] Purple Drama Llama:
Listen to this guy, he knows what he's talking about :D
[Off-topic] JimJam707:
I'm not going to rate your sig.
[Off-topic] lonelykatana:
I pressed 'For beavers' - And now It looks like im the only one to think this.

People always know how to make me feel like a freak...:(:(
[Off-topic] Purple Drama Llama:
Awww....:(:eek:
[Off-topic] htc fan89:
So who thinks the tv show how i met your mother is awesome?
[Off-topic] Purple Drama Llama:
YOU GOT YOUR X10! :) Did you install LauncherPro yet :mad::mad::mad::mad:
[Off-topic] htc fan89:
why install launcherpro? I like Sony's spin on android 1.6 lol
[Off-topic] freeincolorado:
Hey Llama is this what you're talking about:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=746176

This is some lamness here, completely non-awesome.
[Off-topic] Purple Drama Llama:
No. Recently lots of mac stuff and apple product advertisments were appearing here. Not anymore though. It was like, coverting wav, flac or whaetever to apple format for iPad's.
[Off-topic] M_T_M:
Bahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahah...deleted by MOd!!!bahahahahahahah
[Off-topic] Purple Drama Llama:
Yeah because I just reported it. :D
[Off-topic] M_T_M:
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BAHAAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

DELETED
[Off-topic] Purple Drama Llama:
GASP!

MTM's uses a mac!?!?! ;)
[Off-topic] M_T_M:
You take that back Llama!! Them's fighting words :eek: :eek: :eek:
[Off-topic] Diamond_dawg:
what about the indians llama?
[Off-topic] Purple Drama Llama:
What about indians? :confused::D;)

You showed us the facts.... How can you deny it? :eek::eek::D
[Off-topic] christpuncher:
What
[Off-topic] freeincolorado:
You probably don't want to know.
[Off-topic] nrfitchett4:
Let's remember that a lot of folks view these here forums from their mobile type devices and as such, let's respect that they may not all have rocking 3g+ service as I do (except when I get throttled. Damn you tmous), therefore we should keep the bandwidth hogging sigs to ourselves.
[Off-topic] htc fan89:
Llama I'm going borrow your rant thread to say " I'm pissed with people crying about 2.1,2,2 android update and How little ram or rom they got":mad:
[Off-topic] Purple Drama Llama:
This thread is for EVERYONES RANTS! Please, express your anger in a non yet professional way ;)
[Desire General] Neo3000x:
Hi..

I got some music and stuff on my SD card, but in the music player everything is twice, and I don't know why..

I had the Desire connected to my PC and checked, the files are only on the card once.

I tried searching for one of the files in Astro, and found that the "clone" is in /mnt/sdcard

So I have the files for my whole SD card twice? But.. Mounted somehow..

Is there a way for me to unmount this, or what should I do?

Thanks in advance :)
[Desire General] Neo3000x:
Well.. I tried formatting my SD card..

It did not help, in fact it made it worse, making my phone stay at the boot screen and never get past it..

I then formatted it again, making a new ext3 partition too, and moved my Nandroid to it, backing up from that.. Now.. I'm the same place as I where before

Nobody has a solution?
[Desire General] cgrec92:
i dont suppose you are using mybackuppro to restore your music playlist? or any other backup program?

i was doing this and it would cause the music in the music player to appear as double even though there werent any duplicates in the sd card
[Desire General] Neo3000x:
Well, actually I did when I upgraded from Eclair to Froyo..

What to do then?
[EVO 4G General] Cursed Pirate:
warning there is a new update ota it just came to my evo and asked if i wanted to update
[EVO 4G General] munsterrr:
Correct. The new official update is out now. Check out the "HTC EVO 4G MAINTENANCE RELEASE INSTRUCTIONS | 08.03.2010" section and click more for detailed instructions.

http://www.htc.com/us/support/evo-sprint/downloads/
[EVO 4G General] Mikesus:
Might want to post in development too, no one has heard about this before.

:rolleyes:
[EVO 4G General] munsterrr:
it came out last night around 8 pm. If you look at some of the roms in DEV you see "official" in the rom names now.
[Desire General] Sover3igN:
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...ox-old-a2sd-openvpn-tun-ext4-support-802-11n/
[Touch HD General] 8igdave:
Hey, well I've finaly desided that my phone desperately needs some updates as I never bothered before but the problem is I don't know if updating to the latest rom contains all the updates? The most recent downloaderble update for my phone is the orange rom update. Does this contain all previous hot fixs and updates?

Also do you know if these updates will fix my phone hanging up on calls alot and fix the terrible gps connection?

Thankyou.
[Touch HD General] 8igdave:
Aparently I have the latest rom but the update online came out 6/7 months after I bought my phone?
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] moonrock:
Anyone tried this app yet? It seems to be able to do... um... everything?! Ha! I am interested to see what custom profiles and tasks people have set up in theirs!

http://lifehacker.com/5599116/how-to-turn-your-android-phone-into-a-fully+automated-superphone

http://lifehacker.com/5601133/push-...d-to-awesome-heights-with-these-tasker-setups

You can download a 14-day trial from the developers website:

http://tasker.dinglisch.net/download.html

(it is £3.99 in the market for the full version)
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] Argusi:
Wow, I would have normally glazed right over this. For some reason I read the articles and this is pretty cool. I started thinking of a bunch of uses for it. I bought it outright. Thanks for the post, moonrock!
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] moonrock:
Welcome!

I noticed in the wiki or forum (somewhere!) that they were able to set up a profile that remapped the camera button -- I am wondering if this can be used to remap the power button while the camera app is open, maybe?
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] justadude:
So I haven't had much time to play with Tasker, but the two scripts I have currently running:

* Silence from 11pm > 8am, simple, but it replaced the other 'profiles' type apps

* Disable screen rotation when in the Kindle app, for whatever reason this isn't an option in the Kindle app itself.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] nonmindo:
I have it set to turn on my Bluetooth when plugged in and off when unplugged works great!
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] moonrock:
Fantastic! I need to set up a (again, simple!) task that will turn on bluetooth in the times that I am always in my car (commute to work and home, same time every day) which won't be difficult.

I have Locale already, but this may replace it (gotta love paying for apps to find out another one does 10000x more things! oops!) I've had Locale since first getting my G1 though, so it's gotten plenty of use. :)
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] 18.4009:
So glad you posted about this app... its amazing..

18. 4009

Sent from my Samsung vibrant.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] hurrpancakes:
I have a couple tasks set up. First, I have gps automatically turn on and off when entering and exiting google maps. I also have one that lets me pick input style when I go into or leave remotedroid (swype's backspace doesn't work in it). And I have a couple apps that like to hang around after I close them, so I set them to be killed upon closing.

All in all it's a great app, well worth the $6.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] moonrock:
Also worth noting is that it is £3.49 from the developer directly (paypal, via his website) and a larger % goes direct to him that way.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] ritalin:
I have it setup for text to speech on SMS messages when my phone connects to my cars bluetooth.

I am trying to find a way to let my replay to said SMS with the voice to text feature or just ignore it. Anyone have any idea how to accomplish that?

Also think it would be cool to have it change my wallpaper based on the weather conditions in my area, but Im not sure how to go about doing that either.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] Disconn3ct:
Beautiful Widgets (paid app, couple bucks) and the (free) Beautiful Live Wallpaper. Uses the weather widget to make the wallpaper match the weather
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] moonrock:
Tasks that I've set up so far:

Silent / dim screen / timeout / alarm volume 7 while I am asleep (timed task)

Vibrate / auto brightness / timeout (slightly longer) while at work (timed task)

Bluetooth on while in my car (timed task -- specificlly during the hours of my work commute)

Load Vlingo when Bluetooth connects, Kill Vlingo when BT disconnects

GPS on when Maps, Navigation and Foursquare are opened

Display timeout (1hr) and brightness (max) when USB plugged in (for when i am in my car, typically listening to music and/or have vlingo up on the screen, annoying (and worthless) for the display to timeout if vlingo is supposed to be a one-touch process!)
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] talltexan:
Anyway of exporting a profile then importing it so some of the more advanced useres can create some and we can tweak them ?

Edit: Having hard time getting them to do what i want .
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] moonrock:
Probably, but I am not entirely sure how... lol
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] Shane_pcs:
My initial use:

As previously mentioned on this board the bluetooth streaming volume is not the loudest, so I always end up turning up the volume for bluetooth. Then when I plugin my headphones I destroy my eardrums.

So I setup a task that when I connect to my bluetooth car stereo, it automatically sets the volume to max and turns off wifi for good measure.

I have another task that when I plugin headphones, it sets the volume to 60% and opens the doubletwist music player.

Finally I setup the standard battery task so that when my battery gets to 20% it turns of all the GPS, wifi, and bluetooth radios, as well as dimming my screen.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] moonrock:
Ah, I keep meaning to setup the low battery task as well!
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] engineer14:
I have two keyboards i really like in 2 different orientations.

Droid X keyboard:

its sweet autocorrections and large real estate makes it ideal for two thumb typing in landscape

swype:

slower than droid X keyboard in landscape, but in portrait, this is possibly the fastest/most accurate keyboard around.

I tried to set it up so that i could change my keyboards depending on the orientation, but i could not figure it out

im also for an app that turns your screen off with a timer (in the background). and have that work when you turn your screen downward./

any with either of these would be greatly appreciated.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] talltexan:
Anyone know how to make it so that the Incall volume goes up to max on the connect of the phone call? I cant seem to find it in the settings meeting seems to only answer on 3/4 volume. Thought Tasker might be able to .
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] MonkySlap:
This app is awesome. I only got a few tasks setup but one nice one is turning the screen timeout to 23hr when I open the web browser and back to 30 secs when I exit.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] Chronos2187:
To export a profile tap the context (left) icon <profile<export. To import just open the file with Tasker as the chosen program I think. lots of premade tasks on the Tasker wiki. (it won't let me post a link)
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] talltexan:
Anyone want to upload a few?
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] glensta:
@ moonrock

Nice find - very handy - Thanks!
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] ritalin:
Yea I know about that... but I want to use my own wallpapers and not the live ones.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] dilirum:
New > Event > Phone > Phone Offhook > + > Audio > In-Call Volume > Level 5 > Done > Done > Apply
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] joshthewaster:
Hmm this seems like quite an app.

You can get some good starter info here

http://lifehacker.com/5611003/build-a-find-my-iphone-clone-for-android

Was reading that an a couple more of there articles on the subject an ran into a comment regarding battery life. Hadn't thought about that. So- "How is it able to check all these conditions often enough to be useful, without some noticeable negative impact?"

That aside it seems this could be used to take the place of several other apps I have (possible doing them better than the original app). Like Juice Defender or MyLookout (which I only want for the tracking).

So I have downloaded it and am just starting to play around. Hopefully some xda user methods are posted here, I'd love to see what you can come up with.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] joshthewaster:
http://tasker.wikidot.com/profile-index

This has some good info on various things you can do. And, it does have a setup to replace juice defender. Now I just need to figure out a way to allow certain things to sync at will.