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[General Questions and Answers] zchuxz3x:
hey guys!.. ^^:D

(1st, sorry for my bad english:o, i'm from Venezuela xD!)

I'm trying install (On SD Card) android on my HTC Touch Cruise (Polaris).. i have all necesaries files (of: Eclair 2.1 for Kaiser/Vogue/Polaris -- polymod 2.1 gamma).. I copy all these files on the SD Card..... I open Haret.. run.. booting.. press D-pad.. and appear Install menu.. the question is:

what's the option i have to select to run android on SD Card (i dont wanna erase WM)??:confused::confused:.. I tested Android 1.5 (with "system.img" file) and run ok:) .. but now, with the "androidinstall.tgz" (new system of build's) i have to choice an option to install (not is automatic as android 1.5 :(..).. if I select the first choice .. I will erase WM??..

plz.. can any explain me step by step??.. thx guys!! ^^:)

If speak Spanish... much better! :D jeee!
[General Questions and Answers] LENINred:
Reed this, mabe helped

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5602064&postcount=1195
[Nexus One General] AF9210:
What settings do you guys have it at for best pictures? sharpness at max? etc. thanks!
[Nexus One General] CaliLove310:
I have it all on default and it takes awesome pictures. Very clear and high res. But why not Ask this in the nightly thread?
[Nexus One General] e4604:
while were on subject, is "green hue" fixed in latest nightly?

thx
[Nexus One General] uoY_redruM:
It should be (I haven't taken any pictures since flashing) but Cy had commented in the [MOD] 720p hack thread that he'd implement it in the newest nightly (which was last nights).
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crypt0kiddie:
I'm currently running Fresh Rom 1.0.1 which is Elcair 2.1 with all the radios that were current for it.

I want to try out Fresh Rom 3.1.0.1 or whatever the version number is which is Froyo 2.2 but I also have to upgrade those radios etc.

My question is, if I do a Nandroid backup, and don't like it or can't get ALL my apps I need working, will a Nandroid backup take me back? I asked in the Fresh Rom thread, no one replied.

Thank you.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BrianBusby2038:
You shouldn't have any problems doing that. The radios will not downgrade if you switch back to a 2.1 build but I ran the newest ones on the last fresh 2.1 rom for a few days with no issues
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SilverZero:
By the way, I flashed to 3.1.0.1 yesterday, and I have never upgraded my radios. Still using 1.39.00.05.31, and I've never even turned 4G on so I don't know what radio I'm using there. I have no issues now so I figure if it's not broken, don't fix it.

So it's obviously not REQUIRED that you upgrade your radios.
[XPERIA X10 General] senthilanandhpv:
When I use swype and default dialer, during dialing a number I am getting connected to wrong number only. The dialer shows only the number I am dialing but the connected number is wrong number.

For eg; if I dial 1234567890 the opposite person says something like 113355778800.

But When I am using my default dialer and default keyboard I am not getting this problem.

I tried it many times but the problem araises only when I activate swype keyboard.

Does the dialer keypad and normal QWERTY keypad are related in anyway?

Does any one know how to solve it?

Because of this I cant use swype which I love to use.

Model : X10i

Base band : 1.1.31

Build : R2BA026

Firmware country : India

Swype Version : 1.56.30.7625.t100
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djmcnz:
Okay, YES I know this is on the limit for this sub-forum, but give me a minute to explain...

1. I have no Desire experience, hang out in the Nexus forums myself

2. I have an S-OFF Desire at the moment

3. I have no idea if this is commonly available or even useful

4. I SEARCHED (want the list: "s-off", "s-on", "unlocked bootloader", "bootloader", "unlocked H-BOOT", "H-BOOT", "is this worth my time", etc)

...and I only want relevant attention for 12 hours or so... :)

So, mods and peeps, bear with me... either please politely say "no" and close the thread or say "yes" and pm me.

gracis
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hk5354:
it must usefull if you can clone the SPL out :D
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rikgarner:
If you could dump the hboot, it would definitely be worth a quick prod and a poke to see if its any use!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] philicibine:
We need a dump of this!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Erik97:
i hope this is useful and maybe a step forward to unlocking nand
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StrongOneX:
[SteveJobsMode=ON]

This is fantastic. Its absolutely brilliant, Amazing, Beautiful that we found a device with S-OFF.

[SteveJobsMode=OFF]

How do you dump it?? :confused:
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djmcnz:
I have fastboot but not adb... tell me how?

BRAVO UNKNOWN SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-0.75.0000
MICROP-031d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-(I just upgraded this)
05-Mar-2010
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StrongOneX:
Unfortionally google didnt have the answer
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djmcnz:
And you felt we all needed that confirmation? :confused:
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Erik97:
I hope a dev sees this and helps you dump the SPL :D
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DesirableHTC:
sorry for my ignorance, but what exactly is this S-Off? can someone give me a run down?

Cheers
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StrongOneX:
could this be any help

http://www.gotontheinter.net/content/fastboot-cheat-sheet
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djmcnz:
Yes, thanks although I know all of that (I make a quite popular rom for the Nexus)... I need the spl instructions... I have an offer for assistance on this tomorrow. :)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] merlin051:
a simialr thread posted for the n1,

hxxp://android.modaco.com/content/google-nexus-one-nexusone-modaco-com/311351/build-version-erd56c/

there is some adb stuff you might want to try.

ps, whats your boot animation look like? :)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djmcnz:
Just the android text with slight shimmer... nothing too exciting...

Had a look at the post... nothing new I'm afraid...
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bunny0007:
Without know to much about it, i might think you need to use dump_image to dump the address block of the spl.

The nand architecture address layout might already be known.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sindrefyrn:
It's short for security off. A hboot with s-off will allow us to flash and boot custom images trough fastboot. Fastboot can be accessed by booting the phone while holding down the back key. Hboot is the second deepest partition on an Android phone, only beaten by the radio, radio bootloader is almost never used flashing from.

Things it can do for us... the most important command in fastboot is the boot command. It's not really helpful for end users, but developers can use it to boot their custom images before flashing to see if it works with the phone without risking anything. Since it's deeper than recovery it may give us write access to the system partition while normal booted (?). Hboot is also often called SPL (maybe not on desire, but at least on other devices), a hboot with security disabled is often called engineering's SPL.

My knowledge on this is mainly based on other devices. Some may be wrong or misleading. If anyone sees something wrong, please let me know.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xtcislove:
I think its not the problem to extract the spl and patch it to s-off the problem is to flash it (it must be signed) or the SPL partition is r/o there some German users that ere very near to System r/w just wait they will post it!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ieftm:
This has nothing to do with hboot. His CID is most likely set to supercid, eg 11111111.

S-off allows non-signature rom flashing, full rw nand access.

@ts: could you come on irc? Irc.freenode.net , ny nick is IEF.

I'm part of a team thats investigating this. Info from your phone

WILL help a lot! Just pm me asap please :)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djmcnz:
Okay, have now slept... :)

So, it seems this is indeed relevant for this sub-forum so I'll reply here rather than via pm.

Where I am:

have root

have new radio

have fastboot access

do not have adb access

can not flash any kernels here in XDA

I'm not a muppet and have adb working fine for my Nexus but for the life of me can not get it working on this Desire. HTC Sync does not recognise the phone as connected in any mode (Win7 & XP). I've used the Google and HTC drivers. I've used driver tools to remove the registry entries and reconnect phone, no joy. Although I do get "HTC Android Phone USB Disk". :confused:

I can't flash a kernel via a recovery .zip. In fact, even if I flash a rom from here on XDA the kernel fails to install. Bad block are reported on the boot partition which I realise is common. This does however mean that if I install a custom kernel to get a dump it will have to be VERY small.

I've had a few questions asking if I'm willing to dump it. Well, of course I am, that's why I posted... :)

I am trying to secure the device for the weekend EDIT: I have the phone for the weekend.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pascanu:
If it's a driver issue you might want to try this http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/usbdeview.zip Whenever I had problems with devices not being properly recognized this was the one tool that always solved the problem.

P. S. I understand you're not a noob so please ignore my suggestion if you have already tried this.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djmcnz:
Yep, been there, done that, no help but thanks for the suggestion!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kali-:
djmcnz

this is one of the best things you can do:
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DesirableHTC:
Thanks for the reply sindrefyrn, im a little more knowledgeable now!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pyr0x64:
if you don't have an irc client, you can always use the web interface too:

http://webchat.freenode.net/

IEF is usually in the #modaco channel
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kingchris:
the best thing, i think, you can do is tu use a Linux Live CD to dump the Phone
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djmcnz:
Yeah... be working through it on irc... we've confirmed it's s-off and have explored hboot but we can't get adb to recognise the phone (on two computers).

It may be the rom, so I'll change that as soon as I get home and try again.

Apparently we will need to get it working eventually on Windows for some of the debug stuff but getting it working on anything at all will be a good start. :)

On a side note (o/t): I actually think 2.2 w/Sense on a Desire is at least as fast as 2.2 Stock on my Nexus... possibly even faster. Which surprises me. In 2.2 Sense doesn't really feel like another "layer" on top of anything, it really feels "native". Good work HTC. (The hardware's not as nice though... :P)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bikerboi85:
i had the exact same problem. u need to uninstall htc sync, download a specific htc desire adb driver and update the current driver with that one. it took me around 2 hours last night to figure this out. hopefully it saves u problems. i have the driver but have nowhere to upload to. if u want i could email it to u or u have another way?

in windows device manager>Android Phone> it should be recognised as htc composite adb interface when the phone is in debug mode and fully operational

in windows device manager>android phone> it should be recognised as android bootloader interface when the phone is at the bootloader menu (when turning the phone on and holding back button)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djmcnz:
Redacted...
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bikerboi85:
nevermind, here is the link for the driver http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4XNFJ0NW

when u uninstall htc sync do not uninstall the drivers from programs n features, just update the driver u need 2 with this 1. if it doesnt work restart pc. plug phone in under debug mode and when it asks to install driver select this 1
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andycted:
You know, I think there is a bunch of people like me following this thread, that maybe don't know much about what is happening but it's really cheering for you to succed at the moment. hehe.

By the way, regarding your little OT, I think HTC sense for the desire optimizes some stuff taking into account the fact that the desire is a high end device.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] floyd0815:
Download unrevoked for win. (I know, windows sucks)

Look into the hboot....driver.htm, there is a link to the driver and a how to.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djmcnz:
Did that last night, no joy... :(
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djmcnz:
:) that's encouraging... well I hope nobody ends up too disappointed at the end of this all!

Ultimately though, people with more skill than me will have a more legitimate claim to the credit if it does benefit the community... I just got the device.

All said and done, it's certainly not credit I'm after, just progress for all! :cool:
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bikerboi85:
so then u had no luck with the drivers i posted at the bottom of page 3?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fstluxe:
BRo!,,

If you arn't able to get it to work Then let one of the Devs Taking your pc over with VNC or something like that!!!!

we dont have time for playing around, .. if you know what i mean..
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djmcnz:
I don't know if I do know what you mean?

And we've tried that anyway.

And I'm not exactly incompetent.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djmcnz:
Not yet... other stuff to do now...
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djmcnz:
Okay, well quick update, I got adb to work through a rather torturous process so that's a good step forward.

Now we can start extracting stuff.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djmcnz:
Some progress, eye opening stuff, but nothing monumental yet.

I'm just a passenger now. Watching real guru's remote into my pc and sort it out over irc is actually fascinating. lol, I'm a geek.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] philicibine:
Cool man :-p
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] philicibine:
Countdown to s-off for everyone!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djmcnz:
Let's hope!

If we can do that I might actually get a Desire lol!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marinierb:
Definitely hoping for a breakthrough here. Very generous of you, btw!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neoKushan:
I'm sure someone had a desire with S-off in the past that turned out to be no use to anyone? Oh well, I'm keeping my fingers crossed for this anyway, exciting stuff!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AdamG:
@djmcnz: if you actually want to be of any help to this community you would be best to do what Kali- said and message IEF otherwise you are wasting everybodies time with this thread.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neoKushan:
Uhhh...did you actually read the thread?

What more do you want from him?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FrAN_oC:
Any advance in getting S-Off to everyone?

Thanks to djmcnz and all the dev's that are working to make us enjoy our desire's !!

RGDS
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] philicibine:
Just heard from @maxisma, and he seems to think s-off is not dumpable. :(
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djmcnz:
Well, according to AdamG above I'm just wasting everybody's time... my first priority for the day is to remove his rom from the phone. :rolleyes:

Some of the people who actually know what they're doing have had a look and grabbed some stuff. I can't be too specific as I'm not the best to describe the activity and these things are best dealt with in a low-key fashion anyway. Suffice to say many hours so far working directly with the phone.

As you can imagine it's not a walk in the park... lots of bits and hex addresses... so we can't expect miracles. Breaking into a bank is one thing, walking out the door with the cash is an entirely different story.

Perhaps it's 50/50? I couldn't really say. If it doesn't end up being the end game we're playing now I'm sure the devs will learn something from the exercise.

Having said this, access to the phone diminishes greatly from tomorrow... :eek:
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djmcnz:
Consistent with my observations yesterday but I'm not the best judge of what's possible at such a low level!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andycted:
Can't you just put the damn phone inside a xerox machine ?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djmcnz:
lol - perhaps if I just take a pic of the mainboard we can all use that! :)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AdamG:
Feel free to remove my ROM from your phone, I really don't give a *beep*, save me some bandwidth while you are at it and I think there was a slight misunderstanding, I said you would be wasting everyone's time if you did not speak to the people who are working on this, and you are not the first with an S-OFF device, regardless if you did speak to IEF then I'm sure you know it is unlikely none of us will be as fortunate as you to have an S-OFF device any time soon.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NeoPhyTe.x360:
LOL

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[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jiia:
It's always fun to read pure and beautiful nerd rage :)

Hopefully you can manage to dumb it, keep up the good work!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neoKushan:
Yeah to be honest, I don't want S-off. In fact, I don't want anyone to contribute anything to Desire development at all, I want us to all just ***** and fight with each other needlessly.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] markuz85:
Yeah, same here. Contraproductive nerd rage is the ****. Come on, noble Internet Knights, waste more time *****ing about everything!

No but seriously, how about a forum section for douchebags where they can discuss roids, pushups and big ass pickup trucks instead of screwing up the Desire section?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chuzwuzza:
The problem being, he already WAS talking to those people when you posted your original message, meaning you came off as being hostile for no real reason.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mr.r9:
Wow, a very mature reply. Now let us think about this a bit Adam. A developer at the Nexus forum suddenly finds an s-off device, so being a helpful person he says let me ask a few people at the Desire forum about this. He didn't offer miracles and he didn't say that he has a unique one of a kind Desire.

Have a good day.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mikeDCMDVA:
Hello everyone,

My fring keeps saying "fring cant work without an internet connection"

I thought this was supposed to work over 3G??
[Desire General] Beaverman20:
What ROM is you using... personally i'm using Opendesire, with sense 2.2

but i'm interested to know what you are using for 2.2
[Desire General] lee815:
im using this one from modaco & is the best stock one ive found so far

http://android.modaco.com/content/h...-froyo-pre-rooted-no-hboot-with-radio-deodex/
[Desire General] tommo123:
i was on pauls r6, but i'm on neophytes rom now and it has much better battery life.
[Desire General] lee815:
im actually doing a battery test right now just to see how acurate my battery indicator is. its been on 2 days now & at the moment its on 12% but i have everything on trying to run it down
[EVO 4G General] mistersquirrle:
You only need to read the first 3 paragraphs below to get the idea, but Google and Verizon are talking about a deal to throttle internet speeds to websites that can pay more money.

Anyways, here's a link to a pre-made email to send, all you have to do is put some info in. http://freepr.es/bXFB7i

I don't really want to sound like I'm some spokesperson about net neutrality, I just agree with it, and I think this is a bad deal, so I'm trying to get the word out best way I know.
[EVO 4G General] engagedtosmile:
Google has denied any deals with VZW on their Twitter. They are still all for open internet.

http://twitter.com/googlepubpolicy/status/20393606477
[EVO 4G General] mistersquirrle:
I guess I should have researched more :o but thanks for pointing that out, good to know
[EVO 4G General] SilverZero:
Wow, who'd have thought the NY Times would be this desperate for readers?

</not surprised>
[EVO 4G General] DarkManX4lf:
Lets see if Google will put out a more firm statement than something they threw on twitter.
[EVO 4G General] nebenezer:
Yeah that was a pretty subtle reaction to a grossly incorrect report (if it is actually incorrect) and if it the NYTimes was wrong then WOW, that's just sad.
[EVO 4G General] engagedtosmile:
Agreed but lets be honest. Twitter is one of the fastest way to tame the fire before it gets out of hand.

edit:

Verizon also released a statement denying it.

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/verizon-statement-on-new-york-times-article-100048489.html
[EVO 4G General] goodelyfe:
LMAO!!!

+1

grasping arent they? lol
[EVO 4G General] SilverZero:
Maybe give them 24 hours?
[EVO 4G General] nebenezer:
Good point.

@nytimes- facepalm, jackass
[EVO 4G General] rdub4nd:
It isnt just Google..this is really getting to be a big story. Check this story out.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/08/05/franken.net.neutrality/index.html?hpt=C2

I havent had a chance to really dig into this but if it is as the couple stories I have read about it suggest this is not good.
[EVO 4G General] engagedtosmile:
Net Neutrality has been a big issue for awhile now. Google was known for fighting for it. That's why this was such a big deal. Turns out it to be false.
[EVO 4G General] nicholaaaas:
if this is true it could very well be android related as Verizon could shut HTC and other manufacturers out. i would like a more firm statement from them
[EVO 4G General] mistersquirrle:
They could I suppose, but HTC makes phones for them too, and they could probably afford to have the speed increase if this were true. I don't know why Verizon would do that.

I don't follow news very well, but it looks like both Google, and Verizon, have denied this.

I haven't read into it much, but sounds like it's false. I'm glad Google is fighting for net neutrality, which is why when I heard about this alleged deal, I was upset at Google.
[EVO 4G General] SilverZero:
Good luck. Didn't we just see the news that Android is killing the other mobile platforms in sales? I still believe in Google. They fought against Apple and MS, and now they're taking serious ground. They'll do the same if they meet opposition from another front. But, yes, they do need to state their position unequivocally and officially.
[EVO 4G General] nicholaaaas:
no, RIM is still king. and Verizon flagship phones are mostly Motorola. i really don't know what to believe now... but instead of just brushing it off like most people to that have a golden idol of the Google logo in their bedroom; it is, at least; worth following to see what happens
[EVO 4G General] mistersquirrle:
No, Android I the most popular smart phone OS. there was a recent article about it. RIM is a close second, the iPhone OS. Google it. I can't find the link ATM cause I'm at work on my phone at work, but yeah
[EVO 4G General] nicholaaaas:
u sure??

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/08/android-beats-iphone-in-smartphone-sales/
[EVO 4G General] mistersquirrle:
You gotta admit with that trend Android is taking over. look at this

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Android-Google-NPD-iOS-BlackBerry,news-7687.html
[EVO 4G General] nicholaaaas:
yeah... clearly they are. but RIM is still top for business solutions. I just hope it stays that way. Android should keep their noses out of business [to an extent] and RIM should keep their nose out of social networking/more of an entertainment arena. at least for now. neither has a grasp fully on the other and trying to do so will just water down all phones