yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] GT247:
21916 CHT Build runs nicely on the Tilt2 ...memory usage is low, stock programs open fast, gps locks real quick as did the 6.5.x CHT Build...I haven't tried every single thing it has to offer...like the alarm...sms is fine...gmail is fine...internet is fine...makes and takes calls fine...

I haven't spoken to WC regarding posting this review as the ROM is still in testing as far as I know..he can lay into me later for posting if he wants to, lol...but to quicken the argument/debate process, I'll just say now...this is what happens when you get a tester who's said repeatedly they know nothing about anything here :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
We all have to start somewhere. I didn't know much about this stuff when I came to XDA five or six years ago. It just takes time and a lot of trial and error.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] GT247:
Cajun, you "didn't know much about this stuff"? Lol, that's a far cry from where I started out, lol....I used to come here when I had my 8525 (which I'll probably keep forever)..I remember I'd come here and leave right away because this is a developer site and everyone here is a genius and I'm just a dumbass (lol)..I'd look around and leave jealous that I couldn't do to my phone what people here were doing with them because I couldn't figure out how to do it, even with the instructions posted on the page I was reading...I was too afraid to ruin my phone, and too intimidated to try to discuss anything with developers...I had no idea people here were so friendly and helpful, and even if I had known that, I knew so little I wouldn't have wasted their time...I still don't know anything, I guess the only thing that's really changed since then is that I just don't really mind wasting other peoples time anymore (lol, a joke)

WC gets credit for making my phone what it is today, a solid business device that flies through what I want it to do, with a beautiful interface that gives me access to what's on it with the flick of a finger..it doesn't bog down when I've got pandora playing while I'm reading a text message on it as I'm tethered to my laptop with it looking at emails or watching netflix ...I don't know anything about anything around here, and I certainly don't have a clue as to what the heck WC did to my OS and UI with any details...I just know it's badassed

WC, thank you for what you do for us here...I know you don't even use our device anymore, and even if you did, you could have yours working like mine and never tell a soul...you're a good man and a helluva Dev...I'd use what you've cooked any day of the week, and as a matter of fact, I'm using it today...and I'll be using it tomorrow as well...thank you Sir....I have the best phone in the world right now, for me
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
Well thank you for your kind words...Greatly appreciated...I try to do my best for the users of my ROMs...I am glad you are enjoying the device now, more so than before....

P.S. Whoever sent the generous donation today(unfamiliar with the email associated with it), THANK YOU so much, greatly appreciated...

WC
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] osiedacz:
ATT_Tabbed.tsk For WM 6.5.x Roms

Hey Wild Child, here is that tsk file I mentioned yesterday. It is basically the same as the Classic Blue theme for 6.5.x, but it uses the AT&T files and background from the ATT_Tabbed theme that came on the Tilt2 with 6.5. If you were to use the version that is in the ROM currently, it is missing many of the images that set the menus, since they didn't exist in 6.5.

edit: This would be for the 23148 Roms.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
Will check it out and if able to implement into these next releases coming soon

Thank you,

WC
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] motocrossmann:
...sniff, sniff... Smells like something in the oven?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
They kitchen was smoking today:p...all are done...waiting on graphics...;)

WC
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] GT247:
The smoke may have gone down, and maybe you're just waiting on stuff...but it still reaks in here lol
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] GT247:
I remember back when I was in the tunnels of the jungle, deep in the bush...real deep...at night I'd walk in those suckers when everyone was supposed to be asleep...I knew there'd be some that weren't...some that were waiting...watching...I kept my eyes keen on what was in front of me... beside me...every once in a while I'd turn around to see what if anything was behind me...then back to before me...I learned to walk silently...I wouldn't breath for 18 minutes at a time...I knew something was going to happen to break the silence, and I knew it was going to be big......
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] shinku:
vLingo and office

honestly i still prefer your ROMs. flashed this one yesterday and so far so good. just had tosetup my providers setting and disable proxy. gps takes longer to lock in compared to your illuminati.

couple minor things i noticed. office folder is blank, has no shortcuts.

Vlingo doesn't work. i see it running in the back but can't use it. even if i click on the link in the start menu nothing happens.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
This is for ATT only...the other roms will be done shortly...;)...am looking into the vlingo app not starting....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
New builds going up for tilt2 all bloatware removed,original folders/program just like my other builds.....

Regards,

WC
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Nick281051:
one thing i dont get, when i download and unrar the file, i dont get the custom ruu just the RUU_signed.nbh can anyone help me?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
If you have flashed any rom to your phone you should already have the custom_ruu

Regards,

WC
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Nick281051:
yeah i ended up figuring that one out, i forgot it wasnt specific to the Rom you download it with
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
New build will be up within the hour....its fast stable and all working with tilt2...keyboard etc....

Regards,

WC
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
hehe....:p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
Final build is uploaded....link is the same....

Regards,

WC
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] gammite:
this thread or the other thread???
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
This thread is only for the STOCK UPGRADE for TILT 2....and all updates for this rom will go here.....:p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Grahammm:
Watching my phone boot with this rom as I am typing, process was smooth, got excited witht he nice HTC logo, and then this Illuminati logo - f*** i hate this logo hope its not on my home screen anywhere or anything. :( i lost my appetite for the rom when i saw this ugly logo. (maybe a hint of advice)

not trying to be rude or anything- and will report back with the rom's performance and what not.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
Then dont use the ROM, thats the lovely thing called choice....we all have it...if the bootup picture bothers YOU that much....its not hard to change the welcomehead image instead of complaining. And if it bothers YOU that much, cook your own ROM....You say your not trying to be rude....well that was rude imo to even post the comment below before even running the ROM.....I dont have to do these and release to the masses....:mad:

Regards,

WC
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Grahammm:
Hey man, I'm sorry- I think I was too harsh on you. Great work by the way. I had some issues with ROMs, but this was the best release I've tried.

I am however going to stick to what I said, the logo is kinda irretating, is there some way that one can remove the Illuminati logo from the startup?-- this will be the only thing I have an issue with from what I tried thus far.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] doublen1:
Thank you. Downloading now.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jgen:
Thank you as always a great rom
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
Arcsoft build is done, do not know if ill be releasing here or not havent decided yet.

Regards,

WC
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Grahammm:
Please could you release it without your boot logo?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
No I will not...it more then likely will not be released here on XDA, do a search for welcomehead and switch it for yourself, I do not tag my roms all over the place with anything other then a boot up image...

Regards,

WC
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jgen:
Search = Welcomehead
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
New CHT Build Preview...courtesy of GT247

Regards,

WC
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] GT247:
I've mentioned this build in the euro thread...it's been running fantastic...in all honesty when I was offered the privilege to test it, I didn't want to at first, I was very very very happy with what I had at the time, everything worked so perfectly and I had it set up so nicely due to the amazing work of so many people here....my phone is in use all day everyday, from phone calls scheduling my appointments during the day to navigating to those appointments...messaging and emails...and internet between those appointments to keep me occupied so I don't fall asleep, lol....I put a lot of trust into WC that he'd be available if I had any issues with it and trust me, I'd be posting here if he hadn't been, lol...but he was....bugging the hell out of me to see if it was ok..."was this working?, was that working?"....it's all been working...he hasn't had to modify anything, ask me to do registry changes (which is good because I don't know how to do those)...I haven't had to flash a revisioned rom....it's just worked....so far, lol :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] msg928:
Hi, WC, thanks for your hardwork! I am currently using one of the ROMs that you built. I realized you had TotalCommander 2.52 beta2, but not the latest beta3 version. Is there any rational for this? Beta3 does have a finger-friendly option, which is kind of nice...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cyhjrx@yahoo.com:
wc is a very good man!!

his is rom is very smooth.

wc's rom(very godd) + host v1.5(very good) + s2u2(want to replace but no other choise).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] GT247:
cyhjrx, yes, WC is indeed a good guy, I'm sure you've noticed he puts himself into his work to make sure people are able to enjoy using their devices
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] GT247:
WC's home recovering....good news indeed
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] GT247:
Did everyone move to the CHT builds?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Cosmic Ranger:
Glad WC is recovering so well! I have used his ROM's at various points and hope his latest work satisfies. I'm not sure if this is a bug, but my Co-Pilot app experiences a series of flashes when it launches with this ROM and previous WC ROM's. The app is unstable/unusable for a around 30 seconds until it stabilizes. Flashes will randomly occur during use. I've only found one chef's ROM where that doesn't happen so it's not limited to WC ROM's. I would like to use a ROM made for the Tilt but I rely heavily on my Co-Pilot app so having a ROM where it runs smoothly trumps everything else.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
Unsure if same will happen with these builds, nothing has been reported since release@any such issue with any programs reacting that way....Only thing I can say is try it and if it does then we will try to fix it to the best of our ability....Thank you for the well wishes and continued support....

Regards,

WC
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] osiedacz:
Hey Cosmic, I have seen this with CoPilot if CoPilot is on the G-Sensor rotate whitelist. Sometimes when you launch the app and you have the phone held in a position somewhere between portrait and landscape, the program will rotate back and forth several times and each time it takes a second or two to re-draw on the screen. Try holding the phone perfectly vertical and start CoPilot, just to see if that might be the case.

Also, I've had occasional issues on certain builds of WM where getting a new message or email can cause CoPilot to come off the screen and then back on as the notification comes through.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Cosmic Ranger:
Thanks for the reply! I have my Co-Pilot display setting on landscape so the orientation of the phone doesn't affect it. If there is another setting I should check please let me know how to do it.

I have also noticed that an incoming email or text can cause the behavior but again, haven't experienced even that with my current ROM despite it not being tailored for a Tilt2 - which I really would prefer!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
ROMS pulled for an issue found...will be back up shortly
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chessboxer:
I love the rom, but have been unable to send MMS. Is this a common issue so far? Great work on the rom apart from that, I have no complaints!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
Thats the reason I pulled the rom....working on it now....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chessboxer:
sweet, keep up the good work then!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
Fixed build is up now, all buttons i am able to test are working, I do not have a tilt 2 to test all of them....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] gammite:
thanks for the effort. unfortunately the keyboard buttons are incorrect. and i don't have time right now to figure out which ones are which.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
Pulled again to fix completely, bear with me guys/girls....My heads gonna explode but im going to fix this for everyone.....

Regards,

WC
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
Stock manila build going up later today or tomorrow, everything working, keyboard/sms/mms connection settings,youtube...etc....

Regards,

WC
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chessboxer:
I'll be downloading and trying it out good sir!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
I will release this as an untouched upgrade...I will ask from the users of the rom what they need or dont need,want or dont want in the rom....so this is completely based on you guys/girls feedback

Regards,

WC
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] LiquidXed:
What Im looking For in a rom

I would like it to be completely stock, without the bloatware. Maybe one with Arcsoft MMS and one without.

also maybe post cabs to install for all the extras for the phone, not cook them in. So people can deside what they want and what they dont want. Just a thought :rolleyes:. Might make it eazier on ya if u dont have to cook everything in there.

I started a post for all the cabs and tweaks based on this new lay out. If everbody could post and share there info. It might be alittle better to find what ur lookin for and if it works. LOOK HERE http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=7407838#post7407838

Please add your info. Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] klasital:
404 Not Found

The requested URL /downloads/21911_WCX_ILLUMINATI_SERIES_TILT_2_STOCK1.rar does not exist.

?? where is the rom, I can't wait to flash it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] GaryMcQ:
In addition, we need every key on the hardware keyboard to work as it was designed by AT&T to work, including the OK key.

As for suggestions for cooked in software, I don't know of anyone who doesn't have to install Total Commander soon after flashing a new ROM. Most other software is a matter of personal preference, but TC is a necessity given the poor file explorer provided by WinMo. Looking forward to trying the new build!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
Completely stock rom is up,for those who just wanted the latest os,office,facebook,messenger and dont care about the trialwares....etc. Other build is being worked on with everything stripped out now.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
Also Im asking for user input@compiling a list of what everyone considers bloatware, some people may not use xyz, others may....

Regards,

WC
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] LiquidXed:
Bloatware = Trialware

But i wouldnt mind seein everything stripped. if i want something i could always install it. everything that cant be install later ect. calculator leave in there.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] gammite:
please leave in the ATT wifi app. that is quite useful when at an ATT hotspot.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
The way att has made this rom it will takes hours upon hours to remove all bloatware and still have all features work, so this may not be something i may try....may get it close to all stripped but to much work imo....I will strip out what I can.

Regards,

WC
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] LiquidXed:
Thats cool. i dont think this stock rom is goin to be made public anyways. to many bugs in it. If u can get .net framwork to work right. id be happy with leaven it alone and not strippin it, if its gonna cause more bugs.? :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
ROM is up...test the .net....

Regards,

WC
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] pischk:
Now where did that ROM go?

Where's the ROM posted? I tried downloading it from the first post and modification date/time on the NBH is the same ... 2010-08-02 01:16.

Is the ROM posted elsewhere? Thanks in advance!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
lol...the link and file name are same.....just a complete build with nothing but a couple things removed....another one is on its way.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
New build has been sent out to some users....stay tuned

Regards,

WC
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chessboxer:
Very excited!

I've been running the rom you posted last all day and it works great for me. Excited about the next build!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
Two new builds are uploaded, both are cleaned,tweaked,cfc compressed

Regards,

WC
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] LiquidXed:
New Release

its nice. seem that u got the .net to work :) which version you usen?

seems to be runnin smooth, but there is no Setting menu in the start menu?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] pischk:
Where's the Settings?

So far, this ROM really rocks!

The only issue I have found so far is that I cannot find the Settings icon in the Start menu. I can get to some settings via the HTC Sense settings tab, but not all of them.

I've performed Task29, flashed ROM, performed a Hard Reset and then allowed it to complete its setup routine. I immediately checked and no Settings.

Having a little extra time on my hands, I figured why not try again ... so I completed the exact same steps and again, no settings. :(

Thanks in advance!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] LiquidXed:
Yeh there is no settings shorcut. but he did get .net workin. thats a plus:)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DebbieNY13:
Is this a bloat-free version of the unofficial AT&T Tilt 2 ROM mentioned in this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=737168?

I just want to be sure that I'm not misreading something. ;)

Thanks! :)

Debbie
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
Settings button is removed by At&t by default....as I said this is an UPGRADE...start menu etc remained the same for now....So until I remake the start menu in an upcoming build which wont be a stock build, to get the rest of the available settings....click menu from the settings tab and then all settings
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
Yes Debbie
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DebbieNY13:
SCHWEET! :D

Thanks, Wild Child!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DebbieNY13:
Damn, I forgot to ask:

Does your ROM include the new radio that's in the leaked version, or would that need to be upgraded separately?

Debbie
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
No mine doesnt come with the radio....No need to upgrade radio, some have reported worse signals with it....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DebbieNY13:
Ah, thanks! I'll be sticking with the one in my signature then, as that seems to work best for me right now.

My USB port won't sync, so I need to have all my RHODIMG files loaded into the proper folders on my SD card before flashing, so I'll leave my radio folder alone. ;)

Debbie
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] pischk:
Where's my dunce cap?

Okay ... now how in the world did miss that one?

Thanks for pointing out the obvious to me! *lol*
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
:p;)...it happens
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
There will be some other builds being put together for the tilt2 device....arcoft for both...extra tabs(footprints,document viewer)for 2016....but as I said in a previous post, these made my brain mush, will probably dig back into the rest of the roms this weekend....Enjoy,

Regards,

WC
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] gammite:
good rom, wc.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] pischk:
Radio ROM Issues

Funny that you mention this ... and I know this is going to sound weird ... but ... I have tried your bloatware-free version of this new AT&T ROM using both 4.49.25.95 and 4.49.25.91. In both cases, the reception is much worse (less than 1/2 the signal) than on others ROMs.

I also tried bloatware-filled version of the new AT&T ROM and had similar results. Meanwhile, if I load another ROM and use 4.49.25.91, I get great reception.

Also, I have people in the office who also use AT&T (non-cooked ROMs) and they're getting 5 bars while I only get 1-2 bars or no bars. And the actual data throughput drops too. So I know it is particular to my phone using variations of the new AT&T ROM.

I know that everything should be contained within Radio ROM and nothing in the primary ROM ... but ... what's up with these results?

Final thought is that on my old AT&T Fuze, you had to load RILPHONE along with Radio ROMs, but I noticed we don't do that with Rhodium/Tilt 2. Is there a possible connection here? Just trying to get to the bottom of this mystery.

Thanks again for a great ROM!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
different rilphone.dll....proprietary vs euro....att one gives 5 bars when you have full signal....euro gives 4, doesnt mean worse signal different way of showing how much signal......i tested both myself....euro gives more bars but call quality isnt as clear.....so the decision is either less bars showing as signal or lesser call quality....

Regards,

WC
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] LiquidXed:
which CustomRUU r we supposed to use with this rom? Any from the other roms. or do u prefer one?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
Any for the tp2/tilt2 will work....fixed reception build is uploaded now....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] LiquidXed:
damnit,lol i just flashed the old one.lol o well. how about the task29 page, is there a customRUU that will wipe everything, rom, wallpaper, radio, clean everything?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
no just that one does it
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] LiquidXed:
im usen Rhodium_CustomRUU_v1.1.zip from http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=492930 if anybody is wanderin :P