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[Desire General] Fightspit:
I check the source html of this website:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />
<meta http-equiv="refresh" content="60" />
<title>Check for HTC Desire Froyo update!</title>
<style>
body {background: #fff url(froyo.jpg) no-repeat top left;}
.status {width: 300px; margin: 80px 250px;}
</style>
</head>
<body>

<b>01.08.2010 03:01:14</b>
<h2 class="status">
No update available )-; </h2>
<script type="text/javascript">

var _gaq = _gaq || [];
_gaq.push(['_setAccount', 'UA-3021237-11']);
_gaq.push(['_setDomainName', '.u4y.eu']);
_gaq.push(['_trackPageview']);

(function() {
var ga = document.createElement('script'); ga.type = 'text/javascript'; ga.async = true;
ga.src = ('https:' == document.location.protocol ? 'https://ssl' : 'http://www') + '.google-analytics.com/ga.js';
var s = document.getElementsByTagName('script')[0]; s.parentNode.insertBefore(ga, s);
})();

</script>
</body>
</html>

I am not sure if it really check something, a "fake" website ?
[Desire General] wiggy2k:
What if ...

What if the update-check happens server-sided, not client-sided ?

then you'll never see something in the source code of the website.

greets from a web-developer who can't wait until froyo. Roll it out, htc, please !
[Desire General] wickedpenguin:
Awesome , all it has is a counter and a link to google analytics to record the number or views, probably for advertising purposes.
[Desire General] wiggy2k:
... and perhaps a smarty template like this:

{if $froyo_update}

Update Available !!

{else}

No Update Available

{/if}

The html source code means NOTHING about a website. perhaps the owner of the site changes the background-image manually if there is an update ?

the html-code means really nothing
[Desire General] Fightspit:
If what you said is true, so we can make a DOS on this sh*t* website ;)
[Desire General] chris7494:
It's been passing round Twitter for a few hours now so I imagine would be getting the effect of a ddos now anyway. Time to check where the domain goes and who its registered to I think lol
[Desire General] wickedpenguin:
here is the Culprit and his number and address.

person: Uwe Braun

address: Hansestr. 109

address: 51149 Koeln

phone: +49 2203 1045 7000

nic-hdl: HER4-RIPE

source: RIPE # Filtered

mnt-by: HOSTEUROPE-MNT
[Desire General] Cactus42:
The tags at the bottom of the screen are quite apt - desire froyo update, futile, pointless. Lol
[Desire General] chris7494:
Looks like your fingers work quicker than mine!

Whos gonna give him a call then??
[Desire General] k.aalai:
Can we add: us, customers, muppets?
[Desire General] iamelegy:
Err... sorry, I only just noticed the tagging feature and couldn't resist adding some key descriptions. I wasn't sure whether other people could see the tags added by others ... now I know.

The weekend still has plenty of time left in it, but by the tone if this thread you'd think the world was ending. If someone could add the tag 'the end is nigh' it would be much appreciated.
[Desire General] wkd2639:
New to the forum, Hi ;)

Having seen said page floating around Twitter I was wondering how it worked, if someone knows where the Rom will sit on liveimage and what the filename is then presumably the page uses something like php to check http status code eg 404 - update not available yet.

Do we know what file from HTC the phone downloads to decide if it has the latest software? I'm assuming it'll be an xml file so surely someone knows the link the phone is checking with all the reverse engineering you guys have done?
[Desire General] k.aalai:
Well at the very least its given me a damn good giggle, thanks to the humor of the members!

Funny thing is, dont know why I keep checking, my Desire is branded, so this wont help me much, have to wait another couple of months or so!
[Desire General] streetdaddy:
it's already been done: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=740037
[Desire General] wkd2639:
add /index.php to the link -

it is using php - html and htm are not found ;)
[Desire General] wkd2639:
thanks for pointing me to the other thread -

yup I believe the desire OTA check page is genuine then as it is a piece of cake to parse the return JSON from the HTC server :D
[Desire General] joshptyltd:
Its annoying how when you press check now it says your phone is up to date, when really it isn't. Where's my serving of froyo!

I have a worrying feeling that it wont come out this weekend...
[Desire General] GDawes:
Still a, way to go until the weekend over.
[Desire General] wickedpenguin:
Not in New Zealand.... Its 4pm Sunday here.... Looks like I lucked out.
[Desire General] darkpain:
Still no luck in Cyprus either:(
[Desire General] GDawes:
Is it safe to assume Taiwan time? Approaching Midday there.
[Desire General] wickedpenguin:
Safe to assume, It wont be rolled out today at all or next week or the week after?

YES

I was thinking GMT
[Desire General] wkd2639:
if anyone is interested - I knocked up a quick php script to check for froyo update (tested using old software numbers)

When it finds it - it will send out a tweet via @wkd2639

it will also store the URL of the update.

IF you see a tweet go out from @wkd2639 saying it has found froyo - the link to the ROM will be at hxxp://intranet.nptohc.co.uk/wkd2639/ota/

The script runs every 30 minutes automatically AND WILL STOP once it finds froyo.

Hopefully this will appease the people worried about DDOS attacks against HTC server :D

note - as a newbie I can't post links - so you will have to change the hxxp to h t t p (without the spaces)
[Desire General] wickedpenguin:
If it work then thanks..

The Link http://intranet.nptohc.co.uk/wkd2639/ota/
[Desire General] El_Zilcho:
Do you think that they are gonna post it early in the morning Taiwan time so that it arrives late night Sunday in europe. I don't know why I'm bothered about this update since my desire is t-mobile branded. I am seriously considering a custom Rom but I cba to put an ext partition on my SD (last time I partitioned an SD it broke.)
[Desire General] chichoko:
We are hanging onto you two guys.. lets all subscribe to the tweet and wait patiently... :)
[Desire General] wkd2639:
I had a nap yesterday at 6pm but unfortunately I slept until 9pm so I haven't slept tonight/morning :(

if you stick index.txt onto the end of the link you can see the sourcecode so you can verify it does indeed work.

It is written in PHP - and I have completely edited out the twitter routine due to the frankly stupidly unsecure way I execute it on my server :eek:

It would be nice to think it would work, but frankly I suspect phones are likely to start receiving it before automated checking scripts do - if as I assume - a phased rollout simply means that the server will pick and choose "who" it sends the new update JSON to.

I don't claim to know the intimate workings of the checkin server but I would assume if they are trying to keep load down - it will be something along the lines of for every 100 phones that checkin offer 20 of them the update?

I'll leave it running though - because I am going to falkirk today :D

...... don't you just know I'm going to go out and it's going to wait until just after I leave the house and then my phone will tell me there is an update and I will have to wait until I am home on WiFi before I download it :rolleyes:
[Desire General] gadgetuk99:
Still think its not going to happen today I've given up on manual checking its just pointless waste of time...just get it when it finds it itself and be pleasantly be surprised.
[Desire General] Igazine:
FroYo sounds like Fu**You in Taiwanese Engrish
[Desire General] wkd2639:
I think the point of the checking scripts is simply because even monitoring twitter - apart from someone who has put a little cake thing on their desire and told the world they "have froyo on their desire" which irritatingly has been retweeted by like a million people! - there is no sign that ANYONE ANYWHERE in the entire world that has got an OTA update :(

I am aware that even if and when the script finds the rom on the HTC server that it could still end up being several days before it makes it's way to my phone :(
[Desire General] iang123:
This whole thread should be sent to HTC. To show how much people are spazing out over a firmware update..
[Desire General] wkd2639:
well to be fair - they should have said BY NEXT weekend - that would give them the whole week and they could have started at any time....

The only worrying thing is there is NO official statement - as far as I can see - all the tech sites - and the telegraph are reporting on some mystery email that supposedly came from HTC - but who got the email first - or indeed........ was there even an email......
[Desire General] Semogair:
Update OTA release over the weekend...sounds a lot of crap to me:mad:
[Desire General] GDawes:
If they said by next weekend we all still be checking like mad.
[Desire General] wkd2639:
first XDA goes down for maintenance and now twitter is down for the same reason :eek:

what am I going to do now?
[Desire General] Igazine:
Did you guys make a backup/sync already? :)

I just realized that I'm hitting on the Check now button every half an hour like crazy and when it finally arrives I still need to backup my **** :)
[Desire General] msdl28712:
im rooted here do you reckon its worth updating to a rooted 1.21.405 first
[Desire General] muuu:
I can confirm that the email is real.

I got mine from the HTC e-Club newsletter (The Danish edition).

Now to the promise about the update this weekend, that I can't say anything about other then what was written in the e-mail.
[Desire General] itsfozzy:
Quick question, just how big is the Froyo update?

Thanks in advance.
[Desire General] jpxdude:
The HTC announcement is real. In addition to the newsletter announcement, as soon as it was revealed, my carrier in the UK T-Mobile officially stated that they will have FroYo ready for their handsets in September, which matches all the other news reports for other carriers.
[Desire General] willumpie82:
most updates are between 80 and 130 mb

Sent with XDA mobile app
[Desire General] itsfozzy:
Cheers!
[Desire General] wkd2639:
Thanks for all the replies....

as for backing up - I was under the understanding as the published email at pretty much any tech site you care to read says "YOU WILL NOT LOSE ANY DATA" that backing up was unnecessary :confused:
[Desire General] socialexandru:
10 am in Romania and still no update :(
[Desire General] thpoul:
This thread wins the internets.

Chuck Norris should fix HTC.
[Desire General] poope:
Man, i wish i had a life and didnt have to come here every day to see if my phone gets an update :mad::o:rolleyes:
[Desire General] wh1t3r4bb1t:
Maybe a stupid comment.... but why would they post the update when their offices are closed?? If anything goes wrong, sure they would want to be there to fix it. It would make much more sense for them to wait until Monday morning, and since they are in Taiwan (?) this would correspond to Sunday evening/night here in Europe.....

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire General] Hardepadre:
Yeah, HTC tends to rush on their announcements a lil bit too much, maybe wait a bit until all things are 100% ready and then announce things?
[Desire General] bobsie41:
I am having trouble getting my head round this froyo release scheduled for this weekend.

Do the HTC developers work 24/7?

Are they doing so to complete this release for this weekend?

If they are still working on it then surely they wouldn't state that it will be rolled out this weekend as they wouldn't be 100% sure that they could deliver.

If the release was allready completed to their satisfaction, then why wouldn't they just deliver it imediately.

In summary, i find it difficult to anticipate a weekend release (especially on a Sunday).

P.S. Still hoping like everybody else here!
[Desire General] fuqi:
http://i31.tinypic.com/vwr8uc.jpg

:D
[Desire General] I RICHY I:
This thread is hilarious. Remember when Google released group to the public on the 24th, well they did it last thing at night.

If the update doesn't roll out by tonight then you can moan. Fact is that they didn't say beginning of the weekend, they just said weekend... tonight is still the weekend.
[Desire General] gogol:
I don't think that's true (cmiiw).

I think HTC has it's own head office in Europe (again, cmiiw):

http://www.htc.com/uploadedFiles/Common/Shared_Image/Map/HtcEuropeLocation.pdf

It is in the United Kingdom.

And I believe it is more like it rather than controlling this kind of task from Taiwan.

HTC should have their own "update servers" in Europe maintained by local staffs.

I am just wondering, if they said "starting this week-end", that means they will work "overtime" ? :) Most likely YES, and I expect it should be on Saturday. People don't work on Sunday ... unless urgently required. Does this kind of update is urgent matter? I guess NOT.

Or do we think their update server put some-kind of delay? :)

- Turn on update server on Sunday, August 1 ... Time= ....

Probably what HTC meant was "starting next week" :)

Ah anyway, we will get that eventually ...

However, it would be nice today because I have some days off next week to play with it!
[Desire General] supasye:
If thaey are working today i guess they wont hit the office until 11:00 maybe?
[Desire General] wkd2639:
Bearing in mind the timing regarding the email, I'd say it's fairly obvious that HTC are trying to beat Motorola to get Froyo out?

On this basis I would expect that yes - someone is working on a Sunday ;)
[Desire General] adesonic:
I have a Palm Pre, Palm have in the past released major OTA updates to WebOS on a Sunday, apparently, they do this intentionally so that if you use the device as a work phone you don't get any down time during the work week (irrelevant for me as I work 7 days a week). Having said all of that I am sceptical about whether we will see Froyo on the Desire any time soon.
[Desire General] Stavut:
Fully agree in that one, I think being the manufacturer to release Froyo after Google means a lot from a marketing perspective. However if the update isn't released today, and knowing HTC's history with the Hero, you'd think that they would have learned from past mistakes because unbacked announcements such as these really hurts their credibility.

I'm hoping it arrives today, but I can't see it happening but hopefully time will prove me wrong.
[Desire General] GDawes:
Quite stupid , morning taiwan is early am monday mirn in Europe.

Taiwan is 7 or 8 hours ahead I think.
[Desire General] Hoggs:
Saw people talking about software numbers earlier..

Mine says it's running 1.19.161.5.. What does this mean? Isn't that old?

Brought it from an imports store, manual was in German. :p
[Desire General] ranzassel:
On Facebook HTC Germany announced that they rolled out 10 hours ago. So it IS done already. We just need to wait until it appears on our phones.

http://www.facebook.com/htcde#!/htcde?v=wall
[Desire General] pnearn:
nowt here yet either in UK
[Desire General] Igazine:
what if you change the date forward 1 month like with 2.1 update? :)
[Desire General] zipr0:
According to the Taiwanese calendar, today is April fools' day.
[Desire General] wkd2639:
I tried putting mine forward by a year yesterday, and apart from mucking up my 3G counter - the bloody phone just automatically corrected the date after a few minutes :(
[Desire General] derm123:
Surely the debate have finished, the testers have finished, the project managers have accepted the applause and the lonely ops team are babysitting the servers...
[Desire General] jobalz:
That means that your phone is branded. It might get froyo a few weeks later than unbranded phones with 1.21.405.2

i unbranded mine last night to be one of the first people to receive froyo
[Desire General] supasye:
While were all here waiting theres probably someone in the htc office stressed as **** because they forgot their password to upload the update.
[Desire General] bh4714:
I think they are just waiting for this thread to get 1000 posts. C'Mon people, nearly there.
[Desire General] GreenSaints:
Still nothing here in the UK. There's only so many times I can press Check Updates!
[Desire General] Hoggs:
Aah okay, thanks, do you know what brand it might be?

Also, is there a guide around to unbranding?
[Desire General] msdl28712:
will i get the ota notification still being on 1.15.401
[Desire General] Igazine:
I LOL'd at the tags below
[Desire General] Wextercz:
a lot of nervous people in Czech Republic :)
[Desire General] supasye:
All over the world mate especially europe.
[Desire General] jobalz:
it's propably a vodafone branding.

have a look at xda. there's got to be a tutorial about the goldcard method
[Desire General] wkd2639:
intranet.nptohc.co.uk/wkd2639/ota/index.php i'm doing it in an automated way ;)
[Desire General] hensk:
as I could see only in Nederland update started

ohter guys are nervous,

are this HTC.nl was desinformation?!!
[Desire General] Wekkel:
Froyo confusion

I think I'll opt for: life, instead of F5'ing this thread all day long.

Look forward to read your first experiences with Froyo once I log in again around 4 pm Dutch time :D
[Desire General] jobalz:
there's no reported update anywhere. or am I wrong?
[Desire General] NoMercyWWE:
No it wasnt! But all other countries are complaining in their national facebook htc for example. But they are right to complain as no one received the update or at least no one who is able to post some screens.

HTC have only a few hours left to deliver the update to the 1st person. Who can confirm that they did? I guess no one.
[Desire General] XDA mark:
OMG XD

I leave for a couple of days and there are almost 1000 reply's in this thread LOL.

People, you know how you can make the Froyo update come faster? Do something else :) I mean really, I am looking forward to this as well.. but some people are really going to far with this haha
[Desire General] Wekkel:
Update Froyo the Netherlands

To avoid any misunderstandings: Dutch T-Mobile unbranded Desire here -> no update available.

So the Dutch are probably still waiting just like the others.
[Desire General] Joshhudsy:
Apparently the update is to a small number of test devices :(

sent via the XDA Tapatalk app using my HTC Desire :)
[Desire General] germaansboefje:
Vodafone unbranded Dutch user can confirm this
[Desire General] wkd2639:
I suppose it is vaguely possible that some people have got the update and just not posted on facebook and twitter about it - I suppose there are a lot of people with the HTC Desire who only vaguely know what Android is and have never heard of Froyo......

Guess we just expect that because we would post about it - everyone else in Europe who has a HTC Desire would also post about it?

on top of which - 5000 people could have got the update in the last hour but we'd never know since twitter is still bloody down!!
[Desire General] NoMercyWWE:
o.o Twitter is down? For what reason?
[Desire General] Stavut:
Probably due to us Froyo awaiters refreshing/searching for news about the update on a minutely basis hehe. Take that twitter!
[Desire General] lhahne:
They are having a scheduled network maintenance.
[Desire General] mglancy23:
people tweeting about getting Froyo :p
[Desire General] Nuntius:
10:49 CET+1 time and still nothing
[Desire General] lennshow66:
http://www.t3.com/news/tech-week-htc-desire-froyo-update-and-3ds-review?=47643

even t3 says its coming this weekend (first paragraph)
[Desire General] aindow:
If say, as some have previously stated, the update was sent to around 500 or 5000 users, there's no guarantee that they will all even install the update let alone know about a bunch of people on this forum who are desperate for this update. Not everyone who has a Desire uses it to its full potential and not everyone will be interested as a lot will just be happy to have a phone that works.

How often does the update checker actually contact HTC to see if there's an update?
[Desire General] lordjester:
BUT who sent the official statement out in the first place....?????? As neither HTC website or CS are saying anything about the release..!!!!
[Desire General] Sapphire008:
I think it would be if they had specified time because it screwed my whole weekend Htc $%££&
[Desire General] bwfcmadlad:
My software version is 1.19.161.5 but will I receive the update if it does arrive anytime soon?

Thanks all
[Desire General] williap:
I think this is the closest we're getting to Froyo being on Desire today :(

http://kaspernymand.tumblr.com/post/885890903/photo-source-hanspeide-twitpic-froyo-spotted
[Desire General] XDA mark:
Why would you plan your whole weekend around an update for a phone? I like all this stuff as well, but you must have a limit. Sitting inside all day refreshing your phone: for what? You could just have a normal weekend and check once a day if the update has reached us Desire owners already. Or even better: just wait until that notification pops up.

What in that update do you need so much, that is worth all this BS? Is there a difference if you instal your apps to your SD a few days later? :confused:
[Desire General] wkd2639:
If you are talking about the phone - someone mentioned in another thread that the phone checkins in roughly every 3 hours and at boot (though I am not sure if the phone has to be awake when it checks as it seems to me every 3 hours is a bit excessive on battery life, data use etc - once every 3 days is probably more than adequate!)

If you are talking about my checker script - every 30 minutes.
[Desire General] kevinc1504:
I'm on software # 1.15.110.11. Can someone please let me know if I will get the update.
[Desire General] ElVikin:
I got a offial news mail a couple of days ago among the things in it was a reminder to update what phone modell i got. And friday i got the "update comming this weekend....." mail. I have a hard time thinking it could be just for some ppl. If we get the update online to the phone (if on stock) there is no way they know that my unit is my unit....so i guess everyone will get it at least from the contries that ppl have got the mail about it from
[Desire General] mornixuur:
Confirmed: unbranded hi/kpn no update.
[Desire General] usb2007:
the update check sends your HTC Desire serial no, so if you have registered your device online..HTC can easily identify your unit
[Desire General] matteo_damiani:
I lost all hope.
[Desire General] Igazine:
maybe we refreshed way too many times so we're all banned from the update servers ;)
[Desire General] ElVikin:
I have not registered my device just "said" i got a desire...so either im right or htc lies in there mail

.......
[Desire General] wkd2639:
Desire sends:

Serial No.

IMEI No.

Some strange MD5 hash of something (but we don't know what exactly)

Country Code - eg "en_GB"

Model Number

Current Firmware version

So for instance it is quite easy for them to start in one country and roll out across countries gradually.

or

They could simply have the server load balancing so it will only tell every x number of people about the update - eg:

1000 people ask for an update and 100 get given it.
[Desire General] ElVikin:
To strengthen my "case" there is no way they know from who i bought my phone....im sure if i got a stock 2.1 i would get the update (in sweden) but im not on stock and it seems to be a hassel to go back to stock .....hex editor and stuff (been there done that with my past away P3300)
[Desire General] psycop:
Yes but wouldnt we have known if the roll-out has begun? we havent got a single report of a FroYo update yet
[Desire General] ElVikin:
Sure they could partition out tje update but it will be done before monday