yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Vibrant General] teronzhul:
Change "I bet" to "in before" and I think you've got it.
[Vibrant General] rhcp011235:
I cannot believe this is still going?

Has anyone even done anything? deox the apk? look into the libs? Seems like alot of chatter and no work :P
[Vibrant General] zerosource:
Wow! Nice translation. Incredible :eek:
[Vibrant General] BigRO:
What to look for

k my vibrant is in pieces, can any one tell me how big, color, shape, of the thing i am looking for is, a picture if possible. No front facing camera, that is a sure thing.
[Vibrant General] teronzhul:
Galaxy s phones use a combined broadcom chip for wifi b g n, bluetooth 3, and fm radio. Should be the broadcom bcm 4325 iirc. I am sure the chip is there though or these guys wouldnt have gotten as far as they have.
[Vibrant General] jnutz:
Just from reading this thread and others it sounds like the hardware is there. I hope it can be enabled but just because it is there doesn't mean they left a way to use it. I wonder if it is there why they chose not to enable it? Doesn't make sense! Good work so far guys.
[Vibrant General] BigRO:
Is this it

BCM4325??

http://fs.textcube.com/blog/1/10826/attach/XNnm3hiEH7.jpg

from this site:

http://techblog.textcube.com/109
[Vibrant General] BigRO:
Compare

Compare this image of i9000:

http://www.careace.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/galaxy-s-disassembly-29.jpg

and this image of my SGH-T959:

http://picasaweb.google.com/BigRulon/Vibrant#5504044638258165618
[Vibrant General] zerosource:
:eek: How did your vibrant turn into pieces? :p
[Vibrant General] BigRO:
I took it apart

Sent from my Htcclay's Superfly G1
[Vibrant General] blackeyedbrian:
Can you take some close up pictures of the black chips?
[Vibrant General] rhcp011235:
They are diff chips. Google them. Use your head.

and even if they do support FM. They can tell the chip maker to disable it. So the ONLY way you can turn it back on is to jtag the chip.

You guys really do need to learn more about stuff.

MOD: I really this this thread should be closed its not DEV related at all. No one is doing any real work. its just being talked about over and over. and people just saying things. I havent seen one person deox/debug anything.
[Vibrant General] Arr MiHardies:
Why are you so against the possibility of having fm radio on the vibrant? If you don't want it or don't care, why do you insist on coming back every couple days to tell us it isn't there. Just because the manufacturer doesn't say it is there doesn't mean it isn't... Just look at the nexus 1. Nowhere does thee manufacturer say the device had fm. But guess what? They got it working!

Who is to say the vibrant isn't in the same boat, especially since the i9000 DOES have fm radio.

If having an fm radio doesn't interest you, do everyone a favor and go hang out in a different thread. Go work on whatever projects you have been working on, and feel free to leave fm radio by the wayside.

Sent from my Vibrant using the XDA app.

Typos, incorrect words, gibberish, and other nonsense brought to you courtesy of Swype.
[Vibrant General] rhcp011235:
I am not. Im just saying a bunch of people. gabbering about it is not doing anything. you dont see any devs talking now do you. and i am. and i dont even care :P

so unless one of you knows what youre doing :) good luck
[Vibrant General] reuthermonkey:
Here's a novel idea: if you don't like it, ignore the discussion thread.

There's not an ounce of development going on in the "Meet the CM6 Developers for the Samsung Galaxy S" thread either. Just a bunch of "gabbering" and discussion. You don't see me calling for the thread to be moved or closed.
[Vibrant General] BigRO:
I can try

You're have to wait til about 4 MDT

And can anyone answer my previous question??

About if this is what I am looking for.
[Vibrant General] blackeyedbrian:
I think that picture is from an ipod touch.

Here's a teardown from the international version so you can get a point of reference. http://www.techalps.com/android/samsung-galaxy-s-teardown.html

Just take as many pics as possible, all the chips, front and back.

From this we should be able to at least see what chip they're using and go from there.
[Vibrant General] opensourcefan:
5 min between posts... arggggg

Anyways, not sure if it's been mentioned but the Bell Canada Vibrant has FM Radio working out of the box, played with it in the store today.
[Vibrant General] zerosource:
The Bell's one looks like i9000 model. So that should be different.
[Vibrant General] BigRO:
OK

I'm not retarded, I know its an ipod touch, just trying to find a picture of the chip we are looking for.

The first picture shows a SWB B23 (Samsung wi-fi Bluetooth) which if what everybody is saying is true also where the FM reviver/transmitter is.

The second picture shows a FA062440A QF (i don't know what the first thing is, it looks like cm or om not sure.

Anyway if we could find out more about the chip we would know what we have.
[Vibrant General] BigRO:
Blurrrrr

Sorry my camera just ins't good enough to get the small text on the chips, but I did Google most of them, and got few results.

Anyway I put my phone back together (it all still works) and am going to leave this thread for a few days.
[Vibrant General] junkdruggler:
Ok ive been searching for 3 days to learn how to deox... what is this noob language you speak of?

Im just kidding, i dont mean to be a language arts teacher, but i believe you mean to deodex...

Didnt you post a bunch of input codes from the general section in dev section?
[Vibrant General] fearmonkey:
Well, if it's the Si4709, then it's not at the address the kernel expects (i2c-8 0x20)

But, interestingly enough, there is a device on i2c-12 0x2e that doesn't have a driver attached

WARNING! This program can confuse your I2C bus, cause data loss and worse!
I will probe file /dev/i2c-12.
I will probe address range 0x03-0x77.
Continue? [Y/n] y
y
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 a b c d e f
00: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
10: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
20: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 2e --
30: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
40: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
50: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
60: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
70: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --

Register dump doesnt look very promising though

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 a b c d e f 0123456789abcdef
00: 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 ????????????????
10: 82 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 ????????????????
20: 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 ????????????????
30: 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 ????????????????
40: 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 ????????????????
50: 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 ????????????????
60: 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 ????????????????
70: 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 ????????????????
80: 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 ????????????????
90: 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 ????????????????
a0: 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 ????????????????
b0: 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 ????????????????
c0: 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 81 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 ????????????????
d0: 17 17 17 17 17 17 17 17 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 ????????????????
e0: 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 ????????????????
f0: 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 ????????????????

So, do we know if the Galaxy S uses the Si470x chip for FM? Is the driver uncommented and loaded on boot?

If anyone wants to take their phone apart again, the Si chip will be square, just smaller than 2mm with "4709" on one line, 4 letter mfg code on second line and a small dot and 3 letter date code on 3rd line.
[Vibrant General] BigRO:
Sure

Now that I know what I am looking for I would be more than happy to, I can even start now.
[Vibrant General] zerosource:
Here comes the hope we are waiting for. :D
[Vibrant General] engineer14:
wow this is so exciting, FM RADIO WILL RULE!! thank you all for all yoru hard work and dedication (even if we dont get it working)
[Vibrant General] RayRay73:
I believe the chip that is in there is the broadcom inconcert NCM20751, I am trying to find a picture to verify but if it is (which if you look at the specs at broadcom and the specs at samsung usa and tmobile match up exactly). I can't post links but if you goto samsung usa and search the faqs for advanced specs it will show a list of features with FM radio being listed as a red *, Network Dependent Services and Features

* Network Dependent Services and Features

Features and Services described in this section are available through your Service Provider and are subject to their terms and conditions. In some cases, these features or services may be subject to additional charges, subscriptions fees or restrictions. For verification please check with your Service Provider for more details.

As a side note I spent over an hour on the phone with samsung level 2 tech support and they told me that they did not have that information.
[Vibrant General] fearmonkey:
Ok, so 20751 for GPS/BT3, bcm4329 for wifi? My brain will always wonder why they left a driver on the system, only commenting it out, if they had no intention of using it in ANY of the galaxy phones..

Once, I emailed Asus asking about what i2c based hwmon chip they used on one of their mobos. They emailed right back giving me what looked like a copy paste from some manifest they used for ordering the chips. Surprised to say the least.

Given what I have heard about Samsung, I'm not convinced they would do the same however. Pity. I wish we could either confirm or deny existence of some of these. Hopefully BigRO can shed some light. I dont have the courage to take my phone apart :D
[Vibrant General] teronzhul:
There was a lot of assumption early that the 20751 was the chip used, but the i9000 and captivate teardowns proved that the gps chip is the 4751. The wifi/bluetooth/fm chip sits inside that samsung casing, and I assumed from the specs that it was from the 4325/4329 series.
[Vibrant General] RayRay73:
here is their reply to my email

Dear Ray,

Thank you for your inquiry. This issue is one that is best helped through calling our Customer Support Center, as they can help you troubleshoot this concern in a more timely manner than we could through email correspondence.

At your earliest convenience, please call Samsung Customer Support by phone at our toll free number 1-888-987-4357, between the hours of 7:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. Monday through Friday, and 9:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. Saturday, Central Standard Time.

Thank you for your continued interest in Samsung products.

Sincerely,

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which chip is in my vibrant

Hello, I am wondering which GPS chip is in my vibrant. I have heard it is the Broadcomm BCM 27051 with integrated FM transciever and would like verification. In addition I would like to know if the upcoming update to Froyo/2.2 will enable the FM transceiver as I am debating getting a Bluetooth handsfree kit but would much prefer to use my cars FM radio instead.

Thank you,

Ray

p.s . now that I don't need my phone for work for the weekend I will be pulling it apart again to try and verify
[Vibrant General] torenc:
Service Menu

I'm not sure if this will be helpful at all, but those of you that got as far as getting static, could you try the FM Radio test option in the service menu?

To get to the service menu enter *#*#197328640#*#* in the dialer. Then pick "[6] COMMON", "[7] FACTORY TEST", and then "[8] FM RADIO".

On my relatively stock Vibrant it doesn't do anything at first, then after a few presses gives an error message.
[Vibrant General] fearmonkey:
Given the "issues" with the GPS on the vibrant (captivate/epic/etc?) not present on the gxs, I wonder if they switched gps chips? Certainly the bcm4329 driver is present on the vibrant. No reason it couldnt drive a different set of bcm chips though.
[Vibrant General] teronzhul:
Go check the i9000 forum. They are complaining about their gps just as much as we are.
[Vibrant General] junkdruggler:
My gps works good... No fixes... I will be uploading a video comparing 4 gps units tomorrow.. G1, slide, magellan, vibrant...
[Vibrant General] fearmonkey:
Ah, didn't know that. Makes more sense though. I was under the impression theirs worked fine. It was just the US version that sucked.
[Vibrant General] rhcp011235:
Here are some pics of the vibrant internals for you guys.

http://www.mrcellphoneunlocker.com/vibrant_macro

I made them today from a friends 100% bricked phone.
[Vibrant General] danr238:
Check out Samsungs FAQ page on Vibrant. The link will say it is broken but just proceed. Looks like the hardware is there just disabled by T-mobile. I don't know much about software development, but I wanted to let everyone interested know about my findings. http://bit.ly/9lpiBi
[Vibrant General] kingkurry:
I would be willing to pour on the donations for anyone that gets this working
[Vibrant General] zerosource:
same here. hmm this has been moved to General forum now. o_O
[Vibrant General] zerosource:
Oh cool. How did you dig onto that page?
[Vibrant General] danr238:
@zerosource I guess I was just bored at work today. I asked TMO on twitter to confirm or deny that they didn't provide software for FM Radio and I received no response. Like I stated in the thread in it's infancy.....Why the heck would they include the drivers for a piece of hardware that wasn't there even if they are commented out. Someone purposely had to leave them there and remove other such drivers for hardware we know we don't have (FFC, LED flash or whatever).
[Vibrant General] Arr MiHardies:
It seems the guys who got the mobile ap working may have accidentally enabled the fm radio. Anyone care to try this? I can't seem to find the fm radio apks at the moment.

Sent from my Vibrant using the XDA app.

Typos, incorrect words, gibberish, and other nonsense brought to you courtesy of Swype.
[Vibrant General] rhcp011235:
Guys,

I have more info.

Raw Large Pics

http://www.mrcellphoneunlocker.com/vibrant_macro/Raw/

Doing some searching around I found the CPU is a S5PC110 and i found a dev-board.

http://tiny.cc/lf5cpl
[Vibrant General] zerosource:
Page not found. Can you shorten the link please? :D
[Vibrant General] rhcp011235:
Done and fixed in my post. http://tiny.cc/lf5cp

Also more info on this CPU can be found here.

http://xdaforums.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:Samsung_Galaxy_S.jpg
[Vibrant General] danr238:
Not that I'm developing for this current function or have the ability to, but I don't see the usefulness of these two links. One is to a development kit sold by boardcon? and the other is a general specs. about SGS's on xda with nothing listed under the vibrant section. Maybe I'm missing something:confused:
[Vibrant General] larryccf:
curious how you got the connector (above the red arrow) off? - i couldn't and couldn't tell if it was a permanent joint, or a pin connector, so i didn't force it. Did you get it off?
[Vibrant General] rhcp011235:
It's just a clip. Use a small screwdriver.

and if you read our AP thread in dev. The FM radio will be working soon ;)
[Vibrant General] larryccf:
thanks - appreciate
[Vibrant General] fearmonkey:
Huh. Cool..now, who was it hammering and hawing about "no hardware" and "if only we knew would know such things". Geez, my memory must be slipping, I just can't remember their name..

Oh, I'm sure someday we will find out and they will admit they were wrong. Yes, I'm sure they learned something..whoever they are :D
[Vibrant General] danr238:
That same thought was going through my head too fearmonkey LOL. No flaming just stating the obvious
[Vibrant General] kingkurry:
I thought that AP just allowed for typos
[Vibrant General] zerosource:
OMG. I laughed. :D
[Vibrant General] jonathan75:
For those wondering you can see at 3:00 into the first video on this page the camera assembly is removed. In the Asian market model the front and rear camera is on piece. If it is possible to purchase the replacement part and load the software it might be possible to get it to work. I believe the connector may be the same.

http://androinica.com/2010/06/14/sa...literally-for-one-figuratively-for-the-other/
[Vibrant General] larryccf:
yeah, but you'll need the display with a hole or windown in the black layer - the display screen from the i9000 won't be the same - not sure, but about the verizon fascinate or sprint epic 4g, ie if the buttons at the bottom are the same as the vibrant

not sure if the black layer on the vibrant's display is on the back side of the glass or if it can be gotten to to sand off a small area
[Vibrant General] jonathan75:
Yeah I saw the hole is there. Just need to try remove the black part to show through. Not sure if it is plastic or paint?
[Vibrant General] miki4242:
Why oh why do operators spend so much time figuring out ways of crippling the devices they sell? Only for ingenious tinkerers to put in great effort bringing them back to their full potential again. Such a waste of time and energy.

What a tragedy of artificially created scarcity. It should be made illegal.
[Vibrant General] zerosource:
Hahaha. I agree.

If the i9000 could work on T-mobile 3G, I would get it.
[Vibrant General] kingkurry:
Any word on the fm radio working though? I though that the people working on mobile AP got it working by accident?
[Vibrant General] silox2000:
haha, +1!

Also, interesting comment Johnathan75. I would also like to know if the camera could be swapped out to include the FFC and then find a way to create a hole in the front. Seems like it could be possible. I might make a thread similar to this one about this particular thought if I don't find an existing one first in this or another Galaxy S variant subforum.
[Vibrant General] kingkurry:
Adding new hardware won't be simple. Even if you could manage to get the camera attached to the motherboard you would not have drivers.

Anyway what about the fm radio? Has anyone got it working yet?
[Vibrant General] ratbert90:
Any word on this? I really hope somebody gets it to work soon!
[Vibrant General] cesierra:
Now that the sim unlock is done, there is time tackle on this proyect.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mapko11:
I got myself into a interesting situation. A quick answer would be greatly appreciated:

1. I'm rooted.

2. Trying to install the OTA so I can run 2.2 the right way.

3. I started a thread asking for help because I was confused on unrooting my phone. Didn't get much help, a quick flame, and last someone chimed in to install the OTA from Rom Manager. I asked if I could do this with Root and the thread was killed.

4. I did. The boot screen was the new one. But the radio wasn't updated.

5. I then attempted to unroot my phone. Followed the PB31IMG.zip method. Phone booted normally. Root was lost.

6. This is where I am now.

7. My question is, if I install the OTA now renamed update.zip on my SD card, will I run the chance of bricking my phone because I installed it once from Rom Manager while I had root (#3/#4)??????

Please advise so I don't MOD EDIT up my phone.................

And if you're going to flame and insist I should of just followed the 2.2 leak instructions, you're correct. But I took someone's quick answer and tried it assuming they knew a better method.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jdkoreclipse:
Wat is the hboot versoin?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mapko11:
Where do I find that out?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jdkoreclipse:
In the bootloader it should say.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mapko11:
Hboot-0.79.0000
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] larsrya8:
Well, "the right way" would be to wait for the actual OTA. Verizon would also have your back if you brick. But, anyway...

If you're still on the 1.00.03.04.06 radio, you can probably follow the instructions in that thread now that you've flashed back to the stock ROM. However, there still seem to be a few cases of people bricking their phones or being stuck in a bootloop after flashing leaks.

If you are confused/concerned/afraid of bricks then you just shouldn't flash the leaked OTA. This is not a flame, this is sound advice. Wait for the real one.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mapko11:
I'm fine with flashing. I just keep hearing about this "double install OTA and brick your phone" issue and I'm trying to avoid doing that. If the one guy didn't chime in with the suggestion to use ROM Manager, I wouldn't of had this issue.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mapko11:
My radio is still 1.00.03.04.06. I just want to make sure I don't run a risk of bricking.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jdkoreclipse:
If the hboot updated, i would say not to apply again. If it didnt update then i would say to see what happens, but dont take my word for it 100%
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mapko11:
How do I know if the HBOOT has been updated? I posted my version above?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jdkoreclipse:
The 79 hboot is the updated one. I would use caution in re flashing the ota.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mapko11:
Anyway to undo this and go back?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jdkoreclipse:
Try the PB13IMG.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jdkoreclipse:
And you needed to un root before applying the ota
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alexdw369:
I personally have had a .77 HBOOT since I got my phone in April. My mom's phone, on the other hand, had the .79, which she has had since May, and she sure as hell didn't have no 720p camcorder. I don't think that the OP's phone having .79 means with any certainty that the OTA already applied once. I think the radio version listed on the HBOOT screen would be a better indicator.

But absolutely, running the PB13IMG should ensure that he's as far back as he can go, so why not try it just to be safe...
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mapko11:
That's what I just did before I posted this thread. I installed the PB13IMG and restored everything back to stock. You asked about the HBOOT version and that's .79. I'm comfortable flashing and doing the update. What should HBOOT say? Has anyone successfully updated the OTA from .79 HBOOT?

Thank you for the help. Sorry for the questions. I completely comfortable with rooting, flashing roms, and kernals. This is going back to unroot stock is just new.

I want to install the OTA and I'm good to go. Just making sure it's safe now....
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jdkoreclipse:
Thats a high possibility that hboot means nothing in this scenaroi, but im not gonn. Be risky with someome elses phone. I only provide methods of doing things that i would use on my phone too.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alexdw369:
Agreed, however, I noticed after running the PB13IMG, my HBOOT was also .79, which could have only come from the PB13IMG since I hadn't tried to do the OTA yet. Just trying to add pieces to the puzzle to get a better picture for future reference...I'm sure this guy wont be the last to ask...
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mapko11:
I appreciate the help guys. I guess my question would be if I ran PB13IMG, lost my root, back to stock, my HBOOT is .79 and my radio is still 1.00.03.04.06 and not 2.05.00.06.11, I should be at the same point as everyone else for installing the OTA from my SD card. Right or wrong?

When you read these threads and people are installing the OTA twice and bricking, are they installing the OTA again when the radio is already updated to 2.05.00.06.11?