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[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
This was a response to someone who was slamming another product, in this case iphone. Their criticism basically was that the apple product was not an open platform. My response is neither is the X10. And, now you reply by saying that neither is the iphone. Perfect, my point is made. Thank you.

As for the cheating teenagers, it was in response to comments I have read where people were using a fairly popular, but one sided report from MSNBC about why people were against video calling as a standard feature and, why they would not buy into this feature. I am simply emphasizing that there are plenty of people who would buy a device for this feature alone, that do not fit the mold being set as to why video calling is unpopular. I love it. Further more, I believe that video calling will become the norm instead of the exception. I am glad that a major device manufacturer has taken this feature from the back shelf and brought it front and center. I will never buy another phone without a front facing camera again.

As for Timescape, you are right. Not only is it for blackout drinkers but also for people who carry on one conversation with the same person using a couple of different social networking sites, that is when it works. Brilliant! By the way Samsung offers a feature that will allow you to send simultaneous messages to what ever social network sites you add, and track all incoming messages in one box; nice feature but no big deal. The lack of customization and battery consumption really hold Timescape back from being a feature worthy of highlighting. In it's current form Timescape is near unusable and, a complete waste of energy.

And, regardless of all this the X10 will still not support flash 10.1 :p
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
And neither will the iPhone 4.

What, exactly, is your point here? While the X10 will have to wait a few months to get Flash, the iPhone will never have the option.

Dude, seriously, you probably need to leave the forums if all you're going to do is talk ****. Either contribute and help other members with issues, or go away. No one wants to read a troll.
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
I agree with you,, lots of fun. But only when we are talking about cooking things that are not actually already on the market! Why waste time voiding your warranty and auto updates to give you less than what already exists on the market with a growing number of devices?

And, why do it on a device that was intentional engineered for the sole purpose of inspiring you to buy the next device?

By the time the X10 is completely cooked with everything you want, the X1000 will be hitting the shelves. :p
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
No, but it runs HTML5 which works like a charm. And, the list of devices that do offer support for flash 10.1 out of the box is getting longer by the day.
[XPERIA X10 General] ddewbofh:
A debug version of the bootloader wouldn't suck if it happened to find its way here. ;P
[XPERIA X10 General] SXUsr:
Is this something you are working on, or is it from SE which I would then have to assume you're an SE employee?
[XPERIA X10 General] rico761028:
lol so true. Unfortunately, that prolly means someone gets fired or worse. ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] gbil:
This is SE test version not my ROM, but that doesn't mean I'm SE employee :)

In general the reason I started this thread is for people to post issues that have with current version and see if they are solved with 2.1 and hopefully give a message to SE. I believe they would also be happy to fix pending issues.

And I'm sure you can all understand I can't answer questions on how I got the software, if I am SE employee or if I am superman.
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
one touch zoom on photos or in the stock browser??
[XPERIA X10 General] rocketpaul:
Any flash support in the browser?
[XPERIA X10 General] rico761028:
Does your 2.1 version support information sharing with bluetooth devices, for example song info on a display on a bluetooth headset or phonebook info to a bluetooth car speaker phone?
[XPERIA X10 General] Surethom:
Does this look like a almost finished version, what I mean is do you think the update will be release in August/Sept/Nov??? (not after specific months) but does it look ready/stable to release soon? :D

P.S, cant wait for some 720p video sample. :)
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
Hi - I had a courtesy car this week.. which had a bluetooth kit in it.. and I linked my phone to it.. and it happily downloaded my phonebook and displayed caller name etc when I used it.. (was running on R2BA020 at the time).. so not sure if this is a widespread problem.
[XPERIA X10 General] mezo9090:
Okay, tell them to fix the mediascape since it doesn't always register my touch to it, make an ability to change the whole phone theme color if they gonna stick with the same theme, and there is a bug in the landscape mode while typing the recipient in the message application in landscape mode, it doesn't get the contact name, oh and if they want the timescape to be used, it should have some sort of push notification and a better view.

Btw the camera does auto-fash, right?

sent from my x10i that is banging for a 2.1 upgrade. ...
[XPERIA X10 General] ddewbofh:
It would also be nice if they left in the stock apps, like Music.app et cetera. I can't stand Mediascape.
[XPERIA X10 General] Baldolo:
I'm downloading a 147,8Mb update from the pc for my X10i, hoping it will take my phone to 2.1!!

...my damned quite slow connection :mad:, 100Mb left..
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
Oh you poor deluded fool !!!.... it's just a small f/w update - probably the R2BA026 one which everyone's been getting over the last 24 hours or so..
[XPERIA X10 General] Baldolo:
Ok, nevermind, I'm also happy you said that because it's the first time my phone says "there's a new upgrade", I was also waiting for the 026, so i'm not sad =)

it's an improvement, isn't it?? ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] ooidort:
The screen presumably displays 16m colors now? Noticed any difference in gradients etc?
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
@baldolo -which version are/ were you on? it's a big improvement over 14 and 16.. not much different to 020.. (apologies for going OT..)
[XPERIA X10 General] SXUsr:
Considering he's posting on a thread discussing 2.1 being tested on an X10 and clearly far from being available for update, I'm not sure you were.
[XPERIA X10 General] Baldolo:
@iceman: i'm on 023, so yes, i know, i'm not beliving in a miracle with this update.
[XPERIA X10 General] robbyf66:
my hunch is that 2.1 was tested on the 27th.

I'm not sure what to make of this info

http://www.ptcrb.com/ctiastaff/complete/view_complete_request.cfm?modelid=16755

"A	R1EA029	Jul 27, 2010 "
[XPERIA X10 General] damirbusic:
I am interested in this:

Quality of 720p recordings ?

16M colors at last ?

Speed of the menu ?

Live wallpapers ?

Louder call volume ?

Better Facebook app with chat - like iPhone ?

Nicer calendar and calculator app since this calendar is THE worst calendar app I have ever seen.

Tnx a lot for sharing !
[XPERIA X10 General] lostsouls:
icr*p 4................:d:d:d:d
[XPERIA X10 General] tigger69:
Why dont you just leave with your ifart sticking out of your ass. You must be like 15 or something or stupid.

Go post your iphone rubbish in a forum full of like minded trolls.
[XPERIA X10 General] spark001uk:
I was awaiting 2.1 for my x10, and during the discussion i learned more and more that when the update comes it may still not meet my needs, so i bought an alternative that will. Where does that make me OT?
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
I love how a couple of you cherry pick your points. This has nothing to do with the iphone. It has to do with the X10 waiting forever to get an OS revision (2.1) that will still keep it behind a growing list of devices that are using similar hardware builds.

It is a shame that SE has chosen to once again take a piss out of us customers. And, it is funny that even though some are happy with their device, that they fail to see SE's marketing plan is built around holding back and pushing loyal customers to their next device.

Deciding to go with the 2.1 over the 2.2 is a marketing ploy to leave enough on the table for you to take a bite on their next device; and it was a mistake. The differences between the 1.6 and the 2.1 are negligible. Letting customers wrongly believe that their device would support 10.1 even though they know otherwise back in February was another mistake.

The X10 will never support 10.1
[XPERIA X10 General] jojosplace:
Yet despite all these problems you still bought the phone, BTW if video calling is an importance why buy the x10 in the first place?

Your attitude and your ability to label groups of people as blackout drinkers/flaming drinkers/cheating teenagers is quite frankly disgusting, for someone who travels across the world on business presumably meeting other people you people skills are truly terrible.

Well done on the new phone, enjoy it, now leave the drunk and cheaters alone. :rolleyes:
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
I own the X1 for video calling but did not use it due to costs. When another device was released end of June that offered streaming video and free video calling (and after I already owned my X10 paper weight) I decided to buy that one too. I actually didn't label the 'teenage cheaters', someone else did, I was simply paraphrasing. And, the 'black out drunks' was not a label it was a euphemism.
[XPERIA X10 General] Bennachie:
What about the Bluetooth question?.................................
[XPERIA X10 General] realunited123:
True but what is the point of actually flaming ? It won't magically give you a front facing camera and flash. And i am sure you said this:
[XPERIA X10 General] realunited123:
And you edit your posts too many times too.
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
I am not really sure mate. I remember reading something about it. But I don't remember enough to even suggest a point. However, with that said, I do believe you are correct.
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
Yeah, but I do it quickly :p

edit - :))
[XPERIA X10 General] jojosplace:
@realunited123 I would just leave it, a troll is like a stray cat, once you start feeding them they just keep coming back. ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
You mean that people will defend themselves when you insult them and attack them personally. All because you can not distinguish the difference between a dissatisfied customer of SE and a personal attack against you.

No reason to get angry mate. You are not SE. Try not to take it so personally. :eek:
[XPERIA X10 General] realunited123:
i guess when mods read all these there will be another locked thread :D
[XPERIA X10 General] spark001uk:
Trouble is the OP was the only person with all the hands-on answers, being as he was the only one with the test rom, and he's long vanished into thin air!
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
I was seriously communicating my disappointment with the X10 and 2.1. Plus features the device will still be lacking after the revision.

It is you two that were doing all the flaming.

Sorry Spark, I meant jojo and not you!
[XPERIA X10 General] realunited123:
Regarding my last post i was just kidding.. Didn't mean anything and tried to lighten things..

And When did i flame ? :confused:
[XPERIA X10 General] Nankov:
@fm1776 man please take your little brainwashed iphone head somwhere else and stop trying to brainwash x10 users as were not stupid. First i think there was already a thread about you being a troll "finish the sentance fm1776 is..... " there was a reason for that thread. Why the f**k did u come back? This thread is for 2.1 and not the damn iphone. Let us be and go worship your iphone with the rest of the zombies. Mods should lock this thread im tired of coming to read bs all the time. When i come to the 2.1 thread i expect to find news about it and not a zombie trolling. So please leave this thread alone. Go make another one thats called stupid troll trolling or somthing. I am getting really fed up with this sh*t.
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
Ok, I mis-read your post than. Thank you.
[XPERIA X10 General] spark001uk:
Funny isn't it, a few mis-interpreted words and all these new faces come out of the woodwork to stick the boot in!
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
Back to the 2.1. I guess we will all know in a couple of weeks what the 2.1 will do. That is if you believe all the tweeter and and facebook posts on the subject.

I do still find it hard to believe that you guys (or gals) are no even a little upset about the X10 not supporting 10.1 even after this long wait!

What issues, if any, are you hoping the 2.1 revision will address?
[XPERIA X10 General] HunteronX:
To be honest, I think that this thread should be closed. Some of the posts I've seen are so petty, that I think they've come from children pretending to be adults. :confused:

What's the point of people arguing everytime they see something they don't like, or repeatedly posting the flaws of a phone they probably bought themselves, and could have easily returned.

If anyone else has got some new 'sneak peek' 2.1 info etc. then please post it, otherwise it's probably not needed.

I know I'm not a mod, but this is just my view, guys. :)
[XPERIA X10 General] Astral07:
zombies are so cool :cool:
[XPERIA X10 General] berbecverde:
:p there is some truth in what you are saying.:D
[XPERIA X10 General] jojosplace:
Nothing personal here mate, I couldn't care less to be honest, using phrases like cheating teenagers, blackout drunk to describe people who use a certain phone gets a bit under my skin. ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
Talk about the ultimate exaggeration. I was paraphrasing and using a euphemism to describe certain lack luster FEATURES of the phone.

Here it is hours later and you are still going on complaining about being off topic. All the while you focused on opinions that do not align with your own, instead of the topic.
[XPERIA X10 General] spark001uk:
In fm's defense, he has attempted to get back on topic in #402, so i reckon we can just all get along now eh? :)
[XPERIA X10 General] LIQU1D5NAKE:
Just searched for updates on my x10i and it told me update available, told me to use pc software. Just done it but no 2.1? Dont know what it was for, maybe a stability update in preperation for 2.1?
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
What's your build number now? and baseband version?
[XPERIA X10 General] LIQU1D5NAKE:
build number - r2ba020

baseband - 1.1.25
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
That's an older one.. been out since the end of June - Don't know if this is new to your network though - it bought about some big stability and battery improvements from 014 and 016..
[XPERIA X10 General] jojosplace:
Every since rooting my phone when I plugged it into my computer I got the message about an update being available. I did it once then found out it was exactly the same as what I had before except I had lost root. Ever since then just ignored the messages.

Recently however (the past two weeks) I've noticed I'm not getting the constant update messages when I plug the phone in, even though the mobile was the exact same setup as previously described.

I honestly dunno what that means however, maybe PC Companion has fallen out with me or something. :D
[XPERIA X10 General] oXunknownXo:
I have a Parrot CK3100 and my phonebook appears on it so maybe it's a problem with your handsfree
[XPERIA X10 General] spark001uk:
@JoJo: Not sure, i had something like that a while back, but like with u it just went away! Im actually wondering if the 2.1 update will come as an incremental one, ie. preserves settings and apps etc., or whether it will tell you that it has to be a complete wipe and overwrite? I would imagine the latter being as it's a whole updated os?
[XPERIA X10 General] Tjotte:
I would write down my apps just to be sure before upgrading.
[XPERIA X10 General] jojosplace:
I imagine it will be a total wipe however it will be interesting to see if SEs own backup & restore app works across different OS versions.
[XPERIA X10 General] ddewbofh:
The user-specific data and settings for user-installed apps ought to transfer just fine. There might some problems with the app specific settings for the built-in stuff though but most apps you install either store their data on your sd-card or can be backed up manually. Those are my experiences updating from 1.6 to 2.0 on another phone anyway. But SE will probably go with the safe option and wipe the memory.
[XPERIA X10 General] Bennachie:
Thanks oxunknownxo. I have SE handsfree and the phonebook does not transfer and I can't voice dial through the unit (or indeed the X10!):o
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
Wtf now even the Dell Streak has been updated to 2.1(atleast on O2)... now the X10 is the only 'high-end' smartphone running on 1.6
[XPERIA X10 General] shvyue:
Which makes it unique =)

Anyway X10 is doing well with 1.6. Just wait a little while as we've already been waiting for so long for the big update.
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
Here is a list of phones are using or confirmed to get 2.2 Froyo before years end.

Nexus One - currently 2.2

HTC EVO 4G - currently 2.2

Motorola Droid - currently 2.2

Motorola Droid X - currently 2.2

HTC Droid Incredible - currently 2.2

HTC Desire - currently 2.2

Samsung Galaxy S - 2.2 in late September

HTC Legend - 2.2 in late September

HTC Wildifre - 2.2 in late September

Dell Streak - 2.2 in Q4

LG Ally - 2.2 in Q4

Samsung Intercept - 2.2 in Q4

Motorola Milestone - 2.2 in Q4

Here is a list of phones expecting an upgrade of Android 2.1

Sony Ericcson X10 - 2.1 in late September :eek: (doubtful for 2.2 at a later date)

Whilst the list of improvements is minor from 1.6 to 2.1, things such as live wall paper and HD. They are certainly more game changing with 2.2 or newer. Since 2.2 devices will support things such as Adobe Flash 10.1

Whilst the X10 surely has some nice features to it. The 2.1 revision is not going to change that much. It will certainly be behind the competition in using a more limited OS.
[XPERIA X10 General] jingkailim:
well es is sure slow but i still prefer x10 due to the design and performance.

I try my gf sgs but it screen kind of pixel. X10 overall still a great phone. not the best but great phone=) well the lack of mt is a problem for me for playing game but i over it. now just the lack of flash content and 16m colour[well not really a matter but who not mind more colour display=) ]
[XPERIA X10 General] bongd:
If the X10 had 2.2 and support from SE then it'd kill the other phones. The only thing hardware related that it's lacking is a freakin' flash function. And a front-facing cam would compliment things very well but it's not imperative like a true camera flash.

How disappointing. I'd easily go with a Droid X, Epic 4G or Evo but they're all CDMA phones that aren't compatible with GSM providers in Canada, and CDMA providers here SUCK. Screw Motorola and HTC... and SE :(
[XPERIA X10 General] tigger69:
I'm gonna use a wiimote controller to play games on mine, its great for the snes/psx emulators.

I'm still happy with my x10, does what i need right now, and will be on 2.1 soon, bonus. We'll get 2.2 eventually either from SE or elsewere.
[XPERIA X10 General] ddewbofh:
Wish more people would see it like that. When you buy something you buy it because it does what you need it to. If you don't...well that's your own fault for not doing the research.

Additions are nice, but you can't buy a device because you're hoping it will improve. That would just be stupid. 2.1 isn't critical for me and not for a majority of the X10 users so getting the upgrade is just a nice little bonus. :)
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
Elsewhere more likely. But, I fear by the time that happens 3.xx will be out and offering features that will make it to tempting to pass up.

More likely that SE release another device that will look so sexy that you have to buy it. It will have at least 2.2. And, than the newer to SE people will know how I feel after going through the exact same thing with the P900, P910, and X1. Maybe some Kind of slider with two touch screens.

Edit: Next gen will probably include the new Micro sdxc with 64gb.
[XPERIA X10 General] bongd:
Excuse me, sir. SE promised updates for this phone. Given the circumstances with other GOOD manufacturers like HTC and Motorola I figured that SE would not disappoint. They've also got a good track record and all I saw for months was HTC updates all over the place. No one could anticipate that SE would be a POS company and ditch their flagship product, a product they continually hyped up and boasted about non-stop.
[XPERIA X10 General] ddewbofh:
Oh pardon me, I must've imagined the updates and improvements I've gotten so far. And the upcoming update must also be a figment of my imagination I suppose?

Get a grip, shortly after the phone was released they stated that an update to 2.1 would come in Q4 2010, since then they even pushed it back to Q3. They've kept their promise of providing updates and even sped up the release of the 2.1 update.
[XPERIA X10 General] bongd:
Get a grip? I can't hear **** out of my phone for one... what kind of manufacturer sells a phone that's inaudible?

And these updates were crap. What has been updated? Virtually nothing. HTC customers advise technical support agents about problems, they create a ticket and track the problems until it is properly identified and a fix is rolled out. Boom. Why can't SE do this?

And these crappy "updates" were all bumped back too. Horrible. I'm not one to ***** about things but this is the worst high-end phone I've ever had the displeasure of using. I've tried practivally giving it away and no one will take it. Want to buy my mint condition turd of a phone if you love it so much?
[XPERIA X10 General] Rockjock007:
Is there really a problem with the in call volume? Mine is just fine.. loud and clear I asked a few other people in my office and they agree no issues.. are you sure your ears are clean and you did not get a dud? not poking fun at you but if I got a handset and the in call volume was low it would go back to the OEM. If I got another one the same I would do the same and then perhaps move on.

Much like getting a car that starts only on sunny days..

anyone in the GTA with a " I can't hear **** out of my phone..." that I can listen to? coffee on me.
[XPERIA X10 General] -PiLoT-:
How about you all take a breath, simmer down, jump down from all your high horses and stop attacking each other like girls.
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
Here Here Pilot.. since when did mobile phone users become steroid fuelled rage monsters?!
[XPERIA X10 General] andy8271:
can you blame them though ? some people have paid up to 400/500 pounds for a phone that has still has problems

yes they are only minor problems but they should be a priority and should be fixed. some of them shouldn't of even existed , the call volume is a problem for many people and thats a fact.

the guy saying you can hear fine i bet your volume is set to its highest ? on my old nokia the volume on high would blast my ear off! not everyone has great hearing and not everyone has the convenience of working in a quiet office or living in a quiet house.

SE dont help things by just going quiet about everything. constant ''before Q3 , before Q3'' on twitter etc. how hard would it be for them to announce a date or tell us what will be included. we know they have targets and plans. they dont just turn up for work one day and pick ''release 2.1 today'' out of a hat.