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[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grad20_09:
After having difficulty updating to OMJ's v1.9 rom, and then reading i had to clear the dalvik cache, i ran into difficulty with clockwork's recovery mounting the sd card. Now, no matter what rom is on the device, it will not detect the sd card and keeps telling me to insert a new one. I followed part one of toasts method to reset everything back to the way it was, with same result. It seems like the HBOOT can read/mount the SD but not recovery or rom. Anybody able to help me, or do I need to take it to a sprint store for an exchange/refurbed :(....

**edit** I think i found my answer with a simple search...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] prince13:
I am just loving the use you android on my hd2. I finally beleive that my investment is worth it.

First of all i actually dont know what haret.exe does. what i beleive is that my windows keeps running in the background and haret.exe just make it run as a emulator for android. But then first thing that comes to my mind is that doesnt that share my ram between 2 operating system running simultaneously?

And since we have almost perfect android builds running almost everything smoothly. y havent we seen any cheif creating an internal flash rom? wudnt it work? so that i can use android as sole operating system?

Please anyone with more knowledge put some light on this feature.

thanks
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] cabrone:
ok I very rarely post here, I do alot more READING than posting but I had to chime in on this one. If I read one more post about if they are working on or is it possible or ANYTHING to do with an Android rom I'm gonna lose it. At the moment there is no android rom your right it is a virtual version running simultaneously as winmo, whether or not there will be one I'm not quite sure but I'm sure in one of the 25 stickies or 200 other posts JUST LIKE YOURS you will find your answer. Hell there isnt even a completely flawless version that runs off your sd card yet so why would someone have a flashable version. I would imagine watching the pace of development IF there is ever going to be an android flashable rom it will probably be several months down the road maybe even next year. Who knows the developers work off DONATIONS and probably have other jobs and families and lives to be living. So with all that said just be patient, if you really cant wait then start helping the dev team or donate instead of not searching for your answer and posting questions which have been asked several times
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zarathustrax:
Windows Mobile is NOT running simultaneously with android... Haret shuts down the windows CE kernel and then boots up the linux kernel. There is only android using your ram when you're using android, so booting it from nand won't increase speed all that much. It will help some because memory is read from nand quicker than from the sd card, and it might help with some power consumption... but you won't get more ram available. Once your booted into android, windows mobile is no longer using any resources.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] t69broken:
close this thread

this is already an active thread SEARCH!!!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=732160
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] prince13:
thanks alot. this info makes perfect sense.

@cabrone

if you dont have correct information then its good for you to not post next time.

and if i knew it was called NAND then i would have searched for it. but i didnt know.

but thanks alot zarathustrax.
[Touch CDMA General] gedster314:
I broke my 5th Touch, it's the lcd this time. This time I don't have the insurance. It maybe time to move on since Android 2.2 on the Touch is just a little too slow for me. I see Eris's occasionally pop up for <$200 but the it appears to be not much faster then an over clocked Touch. Samsung Moments pop up for the same price but I don't think I want keyboard anymore. They do have a 800 mhz processor and a nice screen. For the most part the Moment isn't that stellar of device but I am curious about how the hacked roms run on it. Any input on these two phones would be appreciated.

If I decide to keep the Touch, I saw I can pick up a LCD on ebay for $44 (includes shipping from HK). Anyone one know of better deal? More importantly, is there a better LCD that can be installed on the Touch?
[Touch CDMA General] gedster314:
Just an FYI, I did end up buying a new LCD. It was $27.65 and the seller was in Westminster, Ca (LA area). So it was over night shipping, sure beats waiting for stuff from China. First link is the LCD and Second link is his Ebay store. Display looks and works fine. Very easy repair.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...639471&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_2316wt_829

http://stores.ebay.com/EZ-iPod-Repair-Parts
[Hero CDMA General] schrady:
I have successfully rooted android 2.1. How do I get my firmware back to a previous version? My bluetooth car kit doesn't work anymore and I use the phone 90% in the car on the car kit. It worked before I updated to 2.1.

Someone please help. Thank you in advance.

Schrady
[Hero CDMA General] thedudejdog:
flash a 1.5 rom from the wiki....

well wiki is down but here is fresh 1.1 (android 1.5)

you will have to wipe when downgrading before it will boot, and wipe sd-ext too if it bootloops. good luck
[Hero CDMA General] schrady:
Thats what I thought. Did you mean to attach a fresh copy of 1.5?

"well wiki is down but here is fresh 1.1 (android 1.5)" or did you mean "there" is a fresh 1.1?

Thanks

Schrady
[Hero CDMA General] thedudejdog:
yea. i forgot the link

http://geekfor.me/hero/android15/fresh-rom-1-1/
[Hero CDMA General] schrady:
Thanks to your help, I was able to get fresh installed and get my bluetooth car kit working again. 2.1 stack sucks.
[Desire General] UltraLinx:
Does anyone know a nice file sharing website with a nice clean user interface?

I want to upload all my modded apps, docks, screenshots, roms, wallpapers...ETC.

I want them somewhere where anyone can access them and download them.

Want it to be nice and pretty so people will actually look through my stuff and will want to download it and find the site some what of an eye candy.

Anyone got any suggestions?
[Desire General] UltraLinx:
Hasn't anyone got any suggestions?

I've found one but it seems to be mac/apple based.

Not really fond of it and you can only upload 1 file at a time but i like the user interface.

CloudApp

There's got to be some more sites like this.

Come on people, this is a forum where everyone helps each other out. :(
[Desire General] I RICHY I:
What about dropbox?
[Desire General] jimlad:
Have a look at gigatribe good if you want to share with friends, its not a site mind, but good because it isnt.
[Desire General] UltraLinx:
You can't share with other people what is in your dropbox.

I've got dropbox already and use it.

It says you can only share your files with up to 500 friends and the UI seems quite plain and ordinary.

I want to share my files with anyone and everyone.

Like say if I upload a Launcher Pro dock or a wallpaper, i want people to be able to preview it before downloading it.

Thank you for the help both of you, nice to know people are actually trying lol :D
[Desire General] Vesafani:
Yes you can, put them in the premade folder called public and then they are available to everyone. You can get the link on the phone app by holding on the file and then pick share... -> share link. On pc you get the link in the right-click menu.
[Desire General] UltraLinx:
Ohhhh ok, never knew that.

BUT i want people to be able to browse through my files and preview them before downloading them.
[Desire General] streetdaddy:
You could just start a blog, one post per dock/theme
[Desire General] Aitese:
And you can do that on DropBox...

You say you have it but it seems you've not used it very much. Why not check out what it can do?
[Desire General] UltraLinx:
WTF can you?

Please can you tell me how?

Feel like a right dumb ass now :o
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bangsters:
Hey. Just curious how many of you have replaced the stock 16gb class 2 sdcard with class 4,6 or 10. Can you chime in with your inputs on performance between these classes. I know the theoretical transfer speeds, but I am curious how they actually perform in day to day use. Would jumping from a class 2 to class 6 be noticeable, or a class 6 to class 10?

Thanks
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dusty_nz:
I am interested to.

Have just upgraded to an Ebay 16gig Class 6. Speed is faster than a Class 2 but not sure if it is a Class 4 or class 6.

Tempted to buy a 8gig Class 10 but struggling to find a reputable source of these.

In case you don't know Class x denotes the write speed. Class 2 has a 2meg/sec. Class 6 has a 6meg/sec write speed. Also gt a increase in read speed. All must be good for the HD unless the Interface is slower than the card??
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nextascy:
From my reading and investigation, not many devices out there support such high speed, I'm thinking phone isn't one of the device that do. I would like to see someone do some testing and see if there is a difference on a HD2 between a class 6 vs class 10.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] GbrilliantQ:
I didn't know they had a class 10, but I'm running a class 6 and I can tell the difference from the 16gb stock card. Loading Android is a lot faster too.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] xicko:
I have a class 10... Its a great diference.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] willgill:
I've got a couple of 16Gig class 2s and a 4Gig class 10. I can certainly tell a difference. I haven't done any empirical testing but gut says it's almost twice as quick. The difference comes when you multitask, getting a couple apps open, app loading, etc.

The problem with the 4Gig is the obvious lack of size. I'm thinking of buying a 32Gig class 4.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bangsters:
between a class 6 and 10, is there still any noticeable improvements with the phone?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Lorddeff07:
I want video evidence.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] matiasg85:
Agree! A video might help us to decide if it is worth buying a class 10 card.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] aenedor:
Looking at numbers alone, a class 6 is three times faster than a class 2 and a class 10 is five times faster than a class 2 so upgrading from a class 2 would appear to be a sure fire bet in both cases

In comparison a class 10 is only 1.6 times faster than a class 6.

So I think I will stick with my class 6 for now until class 12+ comes out.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tommy9422:
So in conclusion do you guys think a faster SD card is necessory? because once xda team finish develop a perfect android rom i believe they are gonna make it a rom, in that case we would'nt need a faster SD card, But i really wonder if a faster SD card improves the performance? Can someone kindly provide a video for this ? Thanks ,,
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jdm_cars:
class 10

I have a 16gb kingston class 10, compared to my Transcend 8gb class 6, not that much difference, compared to my Class 2 16gb that came with the phone? huge difference.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pack21:
I'm now going out, to buy a 16GB classe 4 , i think is sufficient, given that in September Cttula will provide NAND, and the class will no longer important, and I'd rather have more space for my photos and videos, in vacation than a business card 8GBclasse10 faster.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] somebully:
Is the ETA for NAND September?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] reocej:
Nand speed vs. Class 10 card?

Anyone know what the read/write speed of the nand memory is as compared to the say the read/write speed of a class 10 card? I know it should be faster, but is it really that much faster?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] wholly1:
i got class 10 kingston 16gb,

transfers between pc and phone is up tp 6 mb/s read and write, but on the phone it self i think it's faster.

previously i had class 2, 8gb sandisk and it was alot slower...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] HectiQ:
how do I know which class the SD card is?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mystik610:
i use a class 10 card in my digital slr and it makes quite a big difference. i'm sure it would create a significant performance boost with android
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pack21:
I dont find any microSD 16gb classe4 just, classe 2 and classe 10 - 100€:eek:

8gb classe4 i found for 20€
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pack21:
Yes

I think, it cant be comparable....starting by speed and smooth.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Proz00:
i think the v

best way to check it is to open zip or rar file big enuf with class 2 i get 1mb per sec which very low wondering how much class 10 will do i gusss 5mb cos its read and write hopely the sys wont cap /hd2
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hegemytouch:
i bought a class 6 sd card but it didnt say class 6...the card only had the write speed on it which is x155...does anyone confirm if that is a class 6? i mean i see a differance but not huge...thanks alot
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] souljaboy:
i bought an ultra 8gb card 1+ years ago ... its got

when connected to pc thru usb2.0 reader

19megabyte/s read speed

14megabyte/s write speed

thru the phone with usb cable

5megabyte/s read speed

4.5megabyte/s write speed

conclusion

1, snapdragon chipset sdcard transfer rate is maxed out already

2, the class 6 is overkill no need for class 10
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hoss_n2:
my question now is ( does the hd2 support things higher than class 2? ) :confused::confused:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Elemental_Fire:
Are you guys kidding?

On my 4Gb Class 4 MicroSD card, I get write speeds up to 20mbps easily...

Bear in mind that I use a MicroSD adapter to plug my card into the pc's SD Card slot. When the MicroSD is in the HD2, and I transfer files over USB, I only get speeds around 8mbps. Just to let you guys know! :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dusty_nz:
Benchmark

Does anyone know a android or winmo disk benchmark tool.

Basically want something to generate x meg of data and write it. Time how long it takes.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] musada:
I just got my class 6 and it does load android a lot faster. Before i was having chronic SoDs but havent had one yet. However, i still get that annoying system freeze, when the phone kinda just locks up until you hit the power button
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] imatrix:
It's the number written on the MicroSD card.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bangsters:
thanks for the detailed test. question tho, are those figures from results of transfer from the phone, or from PC? I was wondering if the phone would actually utilize the speed of a class 10 card or if the throughput will be limited. It would be a shame to buy a class 10 if the phone's max trhoughput is only equivalent of a class 6.

thanks
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tommy9422:
thanksssssssss
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] poggiami:
Micro SD card didn`t has C10,but C6
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jimmy_wg:
i have the kingston class 10 16GB micro SD card....i can say~the interface is slow.....

the speed even can not reach over 10MB/s....only go around 7~8MB.......

i think HD2 not really support class 10....(after all...no class 10 relased when HD2 shows on the market fist time ba)

to POGGIAMI: yes it is!! it is on the market now^^~ please search~ i am using the kingston one~ http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=50066&vpn=SDC10%2F16GB-2ADPCR&manufacture=Kingston
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zelduy:
I'd like to buy MicrSD 16Gb Class 10, but no store in my country has it yet.. anyone know any online store that can ship International??
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] wholly1:
ebay.co.uk

:)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] shakenfr:
some information about the kingston 16go classe 10:

http://www.planete-htc.com/index.php?mod=forum&ac=voir&id=23832
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] razorpixel:
Just ordered one Kingmax 8GB Class 10 micro Sd card , once arrived will test it out and report any significant improvement compare to my stock Sandisk 8G Class 2.:D:D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bangsters:
ok just pulled the trigger and ordered a class 10 card.... will let you guys know how it compares to my class 2 and class 4 cards (sorry i don't have any class 6 cards).
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Stoferr:
Has anyone thought that the SOD issue might be related to the Micro SD card? Perhaps slower cards (Class 2) might get the error, while faster and more stabile cards may not? Perhaps that is also why some people suffer from the issue a lot, while others never gets the SOD issue.

Its just a thought, I myself am running a class 2 card and gets the error a lot. I've just ordered a class 10 card, to hopefully see if that solves anything.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kerman19:
This is the result of the SD Card I'm currently using in my HD2 (Class 2), My Class 6 SD card is tired up elsewhere.

This is from the USB interface of the HD2, in Android.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

CrystalDiskMark 3.0 (C) 2007-2010 hiyohiyo

Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

* MB/s = 1,000,000 byte/s [SATA/300 = 300,000,000 byte/s]

Sequential Read : 3.721 MB/s

Sequential Write : 3.293 MB/s

Random Read 512KB : 3.626 MB/s

Random Write 512KB : 2.039 MB/s

Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 1.231 MB/s [ 300.5 IOPS]

Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 0.243 MB/s [ 59.4 IOPS]

Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 1.260 MB/s [ 307.6 IOPS]

Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 0.214 MB/s [ 52.1 IOPS]

Test : 100 MB [E: 63.8% (2473.1/3878.5 MB)] (x5)

Date : 2010/04/26 11:39:59

OS : Windows 7 [6.1 Build 7600] (x86)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nilsk123:
thats 20 megabits then, not megabytes
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] shufflez:
Correct, 20MB/s would be quite ambitious :)

Class 2MB/s: 16Mbit/s

Class 4MB/s: 32Mbit/s

Class 6MB/s: 48Mbit/s

Class 8MB/s: 64Mbit/s

Class 10MB/s: 80Mbit/s
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hoss_n2:
does the hd2 supports class 6 speeds , it works i know , but does it increases speed on android , may be hd2 supports only class 2 speeds , has any one tested them
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kerman19:
People testing with various different classes and posting results would get us a conclusive answer to this question, so long as it's using HD2's USB interface and not a card reader to show the results.

Phil
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] reocej:
Many have already reported, including myself, better performance when going from a class 2 card to a class 6 card. So I would say that it does support class 6 speeds.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] imphoking:
anyone if using a class 6 will help reduce the screen of death?

i oly ask cause i use tranaulla 1.1 build and i have yet to have a freeze blsod or anything / on my stock tmobile class 2 16 where i try all the other builds even with cotalla no speedy zimage. still gets bsod very fast . i reformat the sd card before i place a new build on to test. any idea if it could be my sd card?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jan-willem3:
I use a class 6 micro sd ultra 4gb sandisk.

And just like this review:

http://www.topreviewshop.com/sandisk_mobile_ultra_microsdhc_4gb_card

I get about 20 mb/sec read. Tested it a time I go I know it for sure. I would like to test it again but I don't got that reader thing that came with anymore.:mad: And my pc card reader just got a max of 4 mb. There is also a possibility that the hd2 got a max read.

edit here antoher review

http://ld2.ciol.com/Gadgets/PC-Comp...3/0/101480/Sandisk-Mobile-ultra-SDHC8-GB.aspx

BTW does it make sense if you got a empty card or one with stuff on it I booted android always with all my crap on it Igo maps lots of cabs music etc.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Elemental_Fire:
No it is actually 20 megabytes per second!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hegemytouch:
Can someone confirm if a class 6 micro sd card has a write speed of x155? Thanks alot...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] razorpixel:
WIth the latest Zimage , do we still need higher class Micro SD card to avoid freeze ?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bangsters:
currently waiting on my class 10, right now using class 4 and no SOD or any issues.

actually even with class 2 16GB stock microsd i was not having SOD due to the card....

hope this helps....
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jjones1983:
Just ordered a Transcend 4 Gig, class 6 after reading tons of very positive reviews. It should be here by Wednesday so I'll let everyone know how it works out and if it's really a noticeable difference.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] razorpixel:
just received my 8GB Kingmax Class 10 MicroSD card, formatted and loaded with Darkstone Froyo V1 and it seem it boot faster than my previous card, no freeze and I can conclude higher speed card definitely help ....

If u are using Class 2 card, good to upgrade to higher class card since Android OS running from SD card at the moment. Highly recommended.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bugarim:
How much are you guys paying for the class 10 card ?

If there really is a eta for nand support in September, wouldnt it be better to get a class 4 ( or stay with the class 2 ) and donate some money instead ?

I can see the use for a class 4 if by the end of the project hd2 can record 720p, but cant see a reason to go higher than class 4.

[]`s
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Stoferr:
Has anyone gotten rid of their SOD issues, by upgrading their Micro SD card?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] cavemaneca:
wondering this too... getting SOD sometimes on my stock 16GB class 2...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bangsters:
i'm currently on a class 4 and no SOD.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] frysian:
I had lots of SOD's on my 4 Gb CLass 4 card..

replacing it with my older 2 Gb class 2 card solved the SOD problems for me. Andriod is running very stable now. Probally it's not the speed whats causing the SOD's..

Tomorrow i'll get my Class 6 card, i'll see if the new card is stable aswell....
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Reignzone:
It's interesting to read all of these testimonies about the dreaded, "Screen of Death".

I haven't had this issue once, even before changing my ROM to a "bare bones" build of Windows Mobile 6.5.3, and flashing an upgraded RADIO image. However, I did have audio issues with music playback, in-call volume, and "robot voices" during calls. NOT ANYMORE THOUGH...

The ChuckyDroidROM fixed all of those issues, and the newer radio probably helped as well.

I'm using the provided, 16GB Class 2 card from T-Mobile USA... STILL!

And my Android build is absolutely flawless, been running it solid for almost 72 hours straight, with no issues whatsoever.

Nevertheless, I'll be purchasing an 8GB Class 6 card for $20 from Fry's Electronics this weekend, just for testing. :rolleyes: