yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Captivate Android Development] opensourcefan:
One would think by now that these phones have been taken apart and we know exactly what is in them and what is not?

I imagine if the Captivate comes to Rogers minus the FM then all hope may be lost and the I9000 may be the way to go.
[Captivate Android Development] cesierra:
nothing has been said, so I am assuming all hope is lost
[Captivate Android Development] opensourcefan:
It's not that all hope is lost and it can't be done. It has to do with more important things that need to be done. This feature is just that, a feature. Most can live without it and most don't care about it. Some of us want it really really bad but were just going to have to wait until the dev pool picks up and accepts the challenge.
[Captivate Android Development] NikAmi:
Couldn't have said it better myself. Most people prioritize things like getting HSUPA, a clean ROM, eliminating lag, etc. much higher than enabling FM radio. It doesn't mean it won't get done, it just means that, unless you have the skills to do it yourself, you at the mercy of the devs' personal priorities.
[Captivate Android Development] acandia007:
Not to bring peoples hopes up or anything. Bt when using the jm5 rom and radio companion that comes with it, it lets u listen to the radio and its the same if you were listening to a radio station like in a car or stereo. The downside is uses internet so im guessing it doesnt use the hardware for the radio.
[Captivate Android Development] igm503:
how? that does not work for me
[Captivate Android Development] abuthemagician:
Correct. It streams stations from the internet. It doesn't talk to the FM chip at all.
[Captivate Android Development] afortunatov:
I have already posted it in Vibrant's FM radio discussion. but I see there are different participants in these threads, so I repost:

I have disassembled my captivate.

First of all I'd like to confirm it uses BCM4751. There was a hypothesis that such different GPS performance of different devices is due to Samsung used different chips. Chip used in my Captivate has the following marking BCM4751IUB2G UD1021 P11 973510 SN. In my case GPS works well with fw JF7 and default GPS settings.

Now about SI4709... According to specs (silabs.com/products/audiovideo/fmreceivers/Pages/Si470809.aspx) chip should be 2.5mm*2.5mm with rather characteristic pin arrangement. I do see such chip on the board near BCM4751. But its package has the following marking: PACAB (first line) N4 (on the second line). And of course it has laser dot mark denoting the first pin.

I doubt it is SI4709, because I'd expect 4709 or Si label on the chip rather than mysterious "PACAB"....

Any ideas alse to check before I assemble my captivate back?
[Captivate Android Development] xatrekak:
any chance for some really high rez pics of the board?
[Captivate Android Development] afortunatov:
Sorry. I didn't have camera nearby. but if you hope to read chip's labels on photos you have no chances. I had to turn board at certain angle each time to read the label on next IC.

Have anyone tried to change SI4709_I2C_ADDRESS in Si4709_i2c_drv.c?
[Captivate Android Development] xatrekak:
bleh alright, guess ill be calling up a friend of mine who is a photographer and see if between the two of we can do a complete tear down and get see how high rez pics she can get me
[Captivate Android Development] s.m.knipe:
High-resolution pics would be awesome if you can work it out...
[Captivate Android Development] afortunatov:
With sources samsung published we can be sure that Galaxy S supposed to use SI4709, rather than FM radio chip integrated into BCM4329. Folder modules/BCM4329 doesn't mention FM at all, while guys in I9000 branch modifying their SI4709 driver to get FM stereo...

Bad news is that I was able to find only one chip in my Captivate that resembles SI4709, but fearmonkey insists chip should have label "4709".
[Captivate Android Development] diegolaz:
how frustrating...

I was about to buy the phone on ebay... finaly I found a phone that I like and includes FM radio... I'll buy it to bring it to Argentina because AT&T is the only carrier that has compatible GSM/3G bands with my company in Argentina... and the I find this... how can a company do something like that to a phone? why??? WHY?????????????? (I know why :mad:)

So I'll have to wait for this to be solved or is easier for another variant of the Samsung i9000 to get 3G bands unlocked?

Maybe I'll search canadian or european versions.....
[Captivate Android Development] TMC_Sherpa:
never mind about the never mind, there are differences between the SI4709 code in the Fascinate and the Captivate/Vibrant/I9000. The module is missing from the Epic source.

#ifdef RDS_INTERRUPT_ON_ALWAYS

is the new addition but someone smarter than me will have to check it out.
[Captivate Android Development] afortunatov:
What do you guys think about SD card FM radio? Will it be popular and usefull? I mean FM radio chip with SD interface that can be pluged into microSD slot?
[Captivate Android Development] jivy26:
Why are yall trying to have fm radio on the captivate when you have iHeartradio or wunderadio both which play every station in your areas?
[Captivate Android Development] afortunatov:
Because we don't want to waste 3g/edge bandwidth and traffic for fm radio streaming.
[Captivate Android Development] afortunatov:
I think RDS settings are minor and they can't affect fm radio operation.

------------

Another approach could be finding/writing a driver to use FM radio built in BCM4329 chip. Samsung doesn't use BCM4329's fm-radio functionality... Can we use it?
[Captivate Android Development] xcaliburinhand:
I think even if the broadcom chip is figured out (appears to be the same chip used in HTC Desire) it looks like the app is looking for the Si chip.

Would need a different FM Radio app to use the broadcom.

Just a gut feeling, I haven't looked at a debug log so I could be wrong.
[Captivate Android Development] TMC_Sherpa:
The rumor I heard, and I can't even remember if its in this thread so forgive me, is BCM4329 needs some support chip to make the FM work.

Found it, it's in the HD2 forum

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=7200122&postcount=386

The nexus one has the same chippy in it and I think someone was working on it but I don't remember where I read about it.

Sherpa
[Captivate Android Development] afortunatov:
Sources of which FM radio applications (for android platform) do we have?
[Captivate Android Development] TMC_Sherpa:
For Captivate? just the 4709 that doesn't work with the Vibrant or Captivate. Running a I900 ROM and trying to run a FM scan borks the phone pretty bad. It won't do anything with out headphones plugged in for an antenna so some of the code thats in there does work. As far as non Captivate Radios I don't know. The BCM4329 is pretty popular but I['m not sure what source code there is for it.

Sherpa
[Captivate Android Development] afortunatov:
I'm looking for detailed BCM4329 datasheet (not product brief). I believe BCM4329 doesn't need many support components for FM functionality.

Edited: I finally found something technical rather than advetisment: http://www.humyo.com/8102793/WiFiMod_muRata_LBEH19UQJC.pdf?a=jly96857258

BCM4329 doesn't need any additional components for FM receiver. Well... analog audio outputs and antenna may have no connection-I have to disassemble my phone again in order to check that. Anyway we have all the nessesary hardware to initialize and get responds from FM integrated into BCM4329. Now what's about software? Guys from HD2 forum wrote a lot... Have they made any progress?
[Captivate Android Development] TMC_Sherpa:
Nexus One with working radio kernel

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=723373

I didn't see a git address, and its 2.2, and its a different manufacturer so.....
[Captivate Android Development] TheTodFather:
I just read the whole nexus one radio thread...wow, that does sound really promising.
[Captivate Android Development] TMC_Sherpa:
cool did he mention what his git address was? There will be a lot of noise to work through but what the heck, I got noth'n else to diff 'til Sammy releases 2.2 source for something. At least that better be the next code drop.

Dear Samsung, fixing 2.1 is swell and all and I'm sure you would like to have as many kinks worked out as you can before messing with 2.2 but throw us a bone already.

Your pal,

Sherpa
[Captivate Android Development] afortunatov:
We just need to get any responds from FM part of IC-just to confirm that it is there, powered, wasn't hw disabled and so on. If we succeed in that a lot of developers from this forum will follow this idea and help us with porting app (or developing a new one).
[Captivate Android Development] TMC_Sherpa:
I'm theory there isn't much in the fm_si4709 directory so it may be possible to merge them together, use the 4709 inputs and the BCM4329 on the back end. Call the module the same thing and use the stock I9000 app. I2c will probably be a pig but its not like there are a ton of commands you can send to a radio.

Famous last words.

Sherpa
[Captivate Android Development] vendetta007:
I've got hi-res pictures of the mainboard and all the chips on it if anyone wants to look em over. I have the full res pics on dropbox and the lower res ones on photobucket.
[Captivate Android Development] TMC_Sherpa:
Wha... Wha di.... hey next time mark your post NSFW or something you can't just dump nekid captivate photos like that, think of the children!

Thanks for the pics I have too many thumbs to do that to my phone...wait, where is my phone :D

Sherpa
[Captivate Android Development] afortunatov:
Please post your dropbox link!
[Captivate Android Development] vendetta007:
honestly, i'm new to dropbox and haven't figured out how to make a folder publicly available without sharing it to individual users. theres another gentleman who's offered to host the files for everyone. I'm currently trying to coordinate with him to get them on his server. If you can't wait for it i'd be happy to send them to whomever wants them in some way other than email. 123mbs of pics doesn't fit through my email server.
[Captivate Android Development] afortunatov:
You can upload it to Skydrive (aka Live drive). It has a free space about 4Gb
[Captivate Android Development] vendetta007:
Done! Posted the files here.

Zip files are here.
[Captivate Android Development] diegolaz:
did this images help anyone? or does it mean it doesn't have the radio?
[Captivate Android Development] vendetta007:
I've been looking at the pics trying to figure out where the chip is that we're looking for and found it. Problem is its underneath the metal plate labeled "SWB-B23" which is old knowledge. Problem is that you can't remove the plate w/o de-soldering it and i'm not that skilled. AT&T has a repair depot nearby, maybe i can stop by and ask a tech in there if he's gotten any water damaged phones they plan on throwing away or something. Get something i won't have to worry about replacing to deconstruct that chip.

Update: hit both the cellphone repair depots in the area (that i'm aware of) and neither had seen any Captivates come through yet.
[Captivate Android Development] capn1:
Bump. I hope somebody figures this out
[Captivate Android Development] ppmz:
I noticed from earlier posts you're having trouble talking i2c with the chip (if it even exists!).

What you could do is modify the driver init code to read address 0x00 and print it out using printk.

If the chip exists and is reachable on the bus, it should return this 16-bit value : 0x1242. This is the Si chip ID for the Si4708/9.
[Captivate Android Development] mpencexda:
Bump... cause this Interests me

Sent from me to you over wires using only 1's and 0's
[Captivate Android Development] Dani897:
Interests me too. But it seems like the devs who were interested have left. Now the devs are all building roms.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897
[Captivate Android Development] DAGr8:
can some admins please close this thread or move it to general as this is not development THERE IS NO FM HARDWARE IN THE CAPiVATE !
[Captivate Android Development] danix180:
I agree. i've been waiting for this for months. :confused:
[HTC Aria Themes and Apps] pvillasuso:
Credits to LordSeth

Original Thread:

Post # 1

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=723278

After flashing . the 1st boot takes a while, dont panic ! it works :eek:

For Best look > you can set all the text UI to white ... this is done @ settings / CyanogenMod settings / User interface

100% working for me ...

Do this on your OWN Risk ! :D
[HTC Aria Themes and Apps] msd24200:
so anything that doesn't work?
[HTC Aria Themes and Apps] pvillasuso:
Had a "bug" with handcent , where only white text when composing SMS , re-installed the app , and go to go ...

Everything seems to work fine ...
[HTC Aria Themes and Apps] zeyoner:
Sweet theme but when I receive a new email in gmail its all black. Also when in google voice white font is no good, can't see any of my text msgs. Also when receiving a call I don't have the option to answer it. Am I doing something wrong?

Other than that I think the theme is awesome!
[HTC Aria Themes and Apps] pvillasuso:
I think is the framework-res.apk of the theme ... :eek:

Dunno how to solve that .. maybe ask or PM the theme creator ...

ps . I dont use native gmail , neither gtalk , I use the email client , so didn't notice that behaviour ...
[HTC Aria Themes and Apps] superchilpil:
i dont see the use in this theme for CM6 froyo because you can already customize the UI colors in the settings and as for the custom icons they suck and are really limited so this is a big waste of ram

P.S i am in no way offending the creator of this theme, i respect his work and hiss efforts
[HTC Aria Themes and Apps] zeyoner:
No one asked.

I would love if this theme would work on my Aria with CM6. I'm gonna attempt to contact the creator to see if he is willing to work on it. If anyone is willing to show me how I could maybe create or get my "colors" like this theme I'd be most grateful.

TIA
[HTC Aria Themes and Apps] zeyoner:
When I receive phone calls I'm missing the answer button. Are you able to answer calls? I posted this issue on the main forum.
[HTC Aria Themes and Apps] djk34:
how long does it take
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] MindphaserXY:
Looks like Windows Mobile is about to be dead on AT&T.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] PUTALE:
well, part of the reason is that winmo 7 is about to come out sometimes end of the year so it's only make sense that they are dumping these phones. Also with newer and faster phones released, it's time for them to dump the older phone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Bbasso:
paid nearly full price for mine this past week...:confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] stevedebi:
Many carriers have a 30 day return option, no questions asked.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] talon4x4:
Not anymore....there all sold out already!! :( I think they may have been $.01 because they didn't have a camera according to the AT&T website.

From description on AT&T:

"HTC Tilt(TM) 2 (Non-Camera)"
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Bbasso:
Why would I want to return mine?

The Tilt2 I got has a camera...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] reubenray:
Amazon

Check Amazon - I bought my Tilt 2 from them about 3 months ago for $0.01. At that time the cheapest AT&T had them for was around a $100.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] mrife:
I got mine off of eBay for $175 no contract in early July. It was refurbished by AT&T and had the screen saver sticker on it. So far looks a functions like new.

I'll now have problems since I posted this.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jcterry:
I think it is WM that they are getting rid of. I just used my parent's upgrade to get the Tilt2 for $0.01.:D

While I was there, I did some comparing of prices. All of the WM phones were that same price. The Androids were more of a typical upgrade price.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] othater:
Tilt 2

Been using my 8125 forever, I was thinking of the Tilt2.

Didn't know there was a version without a camera.

The web site shows no activation fee too.

Should I wait?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] redpoint73:
Yup, the sale is on WM devices. When I go to ATT's website, and go to Shop>Cell Phones & Devices, there is an ad for "Window Mobile 1 cent sale". They still have the Samsung Jack and Tilt2 (with camera) on sale. It also lists the HP Glisten and LG Expo, but shown as "sold out".
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jcterry:
I wouldn't. Like redpoint73 said, the HP and LG were sold out. I think it won't be long until the Tilt2 is sold out also.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] waltah!:
I upgraded my line less than a month ago to a 3GS so that I could sell it to pay for a Nexus One. I logged into my account a few days ago and it let me order a Tilt 2 for free as an upgrade......less than a month after upgrading already:) It's shipped and arriving tomorrow. Now I just need to decide if I'm going to sell it brand new or keep it and play around with some of the great Custom Roms from XDA!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] curtosrules:
I just bought my current tilt2 months ago, and ATT just let me upgrade my phone right now. I just got myself another tilt2 for $18.01!!! Ebay here I come!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] e-thug:
I got mine for $.01 and it has the camera
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] emoore625:
After a three year hiatus from this site and almost a two year blackberry bender, I'm back to windows mobile with the $0.01 HTC Tilt2 :)

I would of liked an android model but my corporate plan doesn't support them yet.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cbronson41:
Ordered mine today (8/4/10) for .01 as well, went back to check on status of order- said they were on

back order

. When I went to check my upgrade options all the prices of everything had gone back up, and Tilt2 w/Camera said sold out. I've been waiting awhile to order this thing and finally caught a break, if this whole thing goes south... well I guess I won't be too upset but what the heck! I'll just save up and order an unlocked HD2 :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] matrex-1:
I got mine 2wks ago for $99.99. I called yesterday to get them to price match. They would only take it down to $9.99 instead of $0.01.. I didnt feel like arguing so I'm now waiting to see the credit show up on my cc.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] KentuckyGunGuy:
Mine has a camera, was a .01 and HTC is giving me $100 for my old....old...SX66
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] curtosrules:
are they still running that promo? I got rid of an old working tornado and got 100 bones for it as well
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] p51d007:
Couple of guys at work got the TP2 for the penny deal.

First thing I did was hook em up to a custom rom. They were GLAD to be rid of the bloat from the stock rom.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] parsons73:
Just put my Tilt 2 up for eBay auction

Sim unlocked. Includes all original accessories plus car charger, 2 screen protectors & stereo hands-free headset. Check it out.
[Hero CDMA General] gonzoangel:
somehow XDA should reroute anyone who uses Noob, n00b or newb in the thread title to the search function.

also, anyone gonna get an augen touch pad?
[Hero CDMA General] abcdfv:
Hot damn, I might invest in it when College rolls around.

Scartch that, 400MHz CPU, and 128MB of RAM. My phone rapes the hell out of that, and is just missing the hard keyboard.
[Hero CDMA General] DirtyShroomz:
Its 800mhz and 256MB/RAM running android 2.1
[Hero CDMA General] HeroMeng:
You can use a bluetooth keyboard if you're running CM6.
[Hero CDMA General] reedsw:
I think it is to allow anyone that replies to recognize they are dealing with someone who isnt that proficient with android terminology or workings.

Might be used as a tool to get more detailed instructions or request forgiveness on lack of knowledge.

But mostly they do it to piss you off.
[Hero CDMA General] user7618:
This.

Sent from my CDMA Hero CM6RC1 Blackcat
[Hero CDMA General] Pauper7:
cuz my daughter said I have to refer to myself as noob, in all forums until im accepted...not sure how that happens...im 38, I just got my first smart phone after having a flip phone since '02...so, technically im a noob...right?
[Hero CDMA General] sdotcarlisle:
you're accepted by me and my posse. but now you have to get a tattoo of the android guy on your cheek so everyone knows you're with my crew.
[Hero CDMA General] reedsw:
Which means that for them to know you're with his crew, you have to bare your arse. Strange crew... we all agree. Going out to the clubs with that crew can get embarrassing.
[Hero CDMA General] sdotcarlisle:
Thats why we invested in arseless chaps.
[Hero CDMA General] abcdfv:
My bad, I was looking at this

http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/augens-99-genbook-smartbook-preview/
[Hero CDMA General] thedudejdog:
this is why
[Hero CDMA General] gonzoangel:
damn i didn't get the memo on the tattoo. does this mean I'm a noob now?
[Hero CDMA General] sdotcarlisle:
lmao, this is waaaay better than the Kansas City Shuffle.
[HTC Aria General] tilt4life2:
Is there any way to get these two working together so that we can enjoy push gmail within the HTC widget?

Are they compatible? Or is this idea impossible?
[Captivate Themes and Apps] mrpiggae:
Hey everyone,

I just downloaded and installed the new multi-touch keyboard from the Droid X on my Captivate via ADB and it works perfectly so far.

Link here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=709519

I used the 2.1 Eclair version, obviously.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] sportedwood:
wow I like it better than the HTC one i was using, thanks!
[Captivate Themes and Apps] AllTheWay:
Thank you for posting this. I am going to move it over to the apps section but leave a redirect for a week.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] decepticon:
Worked great for me, been using a mix of HTC and Swype but this I was able to type more correctly and faster than with either of them.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] mrpiggae:
I thought the same thing. I was using Swype, but this one is much faster and has the auto-correct.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] mrpiggae:
Sorry, I wasn't sure where to put it. Thinking about it again, it makes sense for it to be in the apps section.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] Fortune090:
I'm using it now and I love it. Pretty basic, simple keyboard. Is there any other advantage to it other than being able to hold the caps key down though?
[Captivate Themes and Apps] cliffgardner:
I'll check it out but I love swype so far.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S
[Captivate Themes and Apps] jsmith8858:
Does it have arrow keys? To me that's pretty much a must-have without a trackball or dpad on our device. Thanks!
[Captivate Themes and Apps] no driver:
There are ways to get the arrows with the included keyboards. See the end of this article for more info: http://www.talkandroid.com/7386-galaxy-s-tips-and-tricks-works-captivate-vibrant-etc/
[Captivate Themes and Apps] bhanuteja:
I am looking for HTC keyboard for captivate, can any one please provide the link to download it.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] inku:
Works perfect thanks

Sent from my Samsung Captivate
[Captivate Themes and Apps] jhego:
hmm, wouldn't install for some reason.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] slimmer1890:
Would not install

This would not install for me either. When I try it just says Parse Error, there is a problem parsing the package. I'm kinda new to android so I have no idea what this could mean. Anyone else having this problem?
[Captivate Themes and Apps] Anthonok:
just wish it had the same arrows as the keyboard that comes on the EVO
[Captivate Themes and Apps] systoxity:
can anyone explain to me again what the benefit of this is over swype? or stock android keyboard?
[Captivate Themes and Apps] lionheartck:
Wow, great find!!! This keyboard is better than better keyboard!

Systoxity: You can type crazy fast on it. I couldn't get used to the Swype keyboard, and the android keyboard had me hitting the wrong keys all the time. This one is crazy accurate for me!