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[HD2 General] lunaticz0r:
well i have not installed any roms or anything...its till fresh from the store/htc factory cus they re-setted it to factory mode :)

uhm i put the dabs on my sd card and then install them to my sd card also but i saw that when i install them to my sd card it STILL takes away some phone memory(so it does not install on the sd card o only partly)

i go to start-->manila settings--.info about phone(using dutch lang so i could be miss-typing it sorry haha) and it says

storage

-------phone

total storage space : 195.29MB

used storage space : 188.59MB

free storage space : 6.71MB

total programs : 336.93MB

used for programs : 1.67.51MB

free for programs : 169.42MB

and my sd card is not important i think but its a 4gb one
[HD2 General] bbobeckyj:
sms / emails and IE (and I assume Opera) keep all data on the main memory.

Try clearing the cache and or use pm clean:

http://www.pocketmax.net/redial.html
[HD2 General] lunaticz0r:
ok guys I've just cleaned my whole phone(settings-->put to factory settings)

any1 got a little list for me for what to instal? like a radio version hspl and all thats tffu? CATUION : IM A TOTAL 100% NOOB ON MODDING so please if its anything hard dont tell me haha i ****ed up this phone ebfore trying to put a rom on it hahaha :P

i got :

bsb tweaks 1.6

CHTEDITOR v1.7

co0kie homeTab v1.7.1

klaxon

magicall2_ppc

sdkcertnew2015(no idea what this is lol)

TCPMP-0.72RC1-ARM-PPC-HD2

tv opera mobile flash support

xda shutdown

no roms no updated no radio's etc yet! so if any1 has any suggestions!?

phone version:

5.2.21869 (21869.5.0.82)

manila

2.5.19211619.0

ROM

1.66.404.1 (76641) NLD

rom date

01/14/10

RADIO

2.07.51.22_2

protocol

15.32.50.07U

soo any1? hehe
[HD2 General] nrfitchett4:
none of those things should eat up all the memory. How many text messages, emails etc are you keeping on your phone?

You might try a program like suggested or ClearTemp that you can set to clear caches of opera, google maps, email attachments, so you don't run out of memory.
[HD2 General] lunaticz0r:
well my hotmail account has 50k emails(i keep junk for fun) and it shows only 50mails on it so what should i do? i dont email people on my phone anyway, just dont sue a mail program or something?

got any programs for me to instal btw? hehe ^^
[HD2 General] rumpleforeskin:
50 emails is the limit of the windows live software.

maybe its possible to show all emails if you dont use the windows live software but setup the hotmail using the pop3 method descrived in the forum (i have not tried this so cant be sure)

the HTC album cache eats alot of the storage memory (sometimes over 30 meg) worth deleting every once in a while

its a good idea to move the HCT album cache and opera cache to eaither the SD card or to a ramdisk (both methods are described elsewhere in the forum)
[Windows Phone 7 General] _LeCiel_:
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This is my second HD3 Concept. I made the first one (link) in February 2010 - back then people didn't knew much about Windows Phone 7. I thought it's going to be similar to 6.5.x and that - at some point - we'll be able to flash it on our current devices.

That's why I came up with a phone running Windows Mobile 7 and which looked like a kitchen knife (and what's with that huge weather animation?! :eek:).

The Concept got some attention and was mentioned on several websites and blogs all over the world. That's when I learned that Google Translate has no problems translating "What an ugly phone!" from Russian and Turkish to English. :rolleyes: Although I designed it for my graphic novel which takes place in 2015, my futuristic HD3 specifications were taken seriously :confused: so I was heavily criticized for the hardware.

Now, a few months later, I present to you my latest HD3 Concept.

Since everyone would like to see different specs I've decided to give you guys a chance of writing your own. I will update the threat with realistic specifications written by someone who knows what he/she's talking about.

As you can see, my new HD3 has two Build-in Speakers on both sides of the screen (I really liked that about my previous concept), a front facing Camera, HDMI output and a Micro-USB port. There are 6 hardware buttons (Power, Volume Up and Down and 3 WP7 buttons). You can come up with the rest.;)

I decided to make WP7 more customizable so I skinned it with Sense 3 (do you REALLY think HTC would release a phone without Sense? I know Microsoft claims that all WP7 devices should use Metro, but Sense is HTC's trademark). Of course you could still change the wallpaper:

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Finally, before you start complaining about the hardware buttons, he's an alternative version with buttons that would give actual feedback (though I think they make the phone look ugly:p):

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Took 15 hours to complete. Enjoy! :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] akbisw:
it looks awesome.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Mastamind89:
Looks pretty nice, good job.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
Damn! Wish WP7 did look like this!
[Windows Phone 7 General] G-ThGraf:
Just... Just Amazing! Need it! Well done!
[Windows Phone 7 General] hubie:
Great design

Wow! awesome design! You just missed the HTC logo on top.
[Windows Phone 7 General] intimidatorx31:
I was hoping someone would come through with a vision i had.

Surely yours is wayyyyyyy better than what i imagined but i said a while back

win phone 7 could look decent if it had some photoshop and glossy eyecandy icons.

Your concept just blew my mind away because it fulfilled the glossy eyecandy look but youve managed to do subtle things that i didnt even think of.

Great work. Great concept.
[Windows Phone 7 General] krjcook:
I second that. HTC and MS make it happen.
[Windows Phone 7 General] AngryNil:
I'd pre-order it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Windcape:
It's a bit over the boundaries of what's possible with the tiles. Also I think changing the default circle buttons is a very bad idea, as it destroys the uniform layout of the entire platform.

The design language for WP7 is not just for the home-screen, but also applications, which is important to take in consideration for a custom layout.
[Windows Phone 7 General] dzatara:
hmm on 1st two images there is soft keys below but on the last they look pretty hardware :confused: ...
[Windows Phone 7 General] Zd0s:
look sick

htc and microsoft NEED to see this
[Windows Phone 7 General] havox22:
this is nice, I mite giving up a super amoled screen for this
[Windows Phone 7 General] khalidabuu:
now thats pretty awesome thats imagination at work
[Windows Phone 7 General] _LeCiel_:
Looking forward to your design:rolleyes:

You wouldn't be ":confused:" if you'd take the time to read the first post.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Windcape:
The point is that it's NOT a good idea to make a home-screen that's not using the design language of the rest of the platform.

Designing isn't about fancy colors, gradients, and bevels. It's also about usability, uniformness, and easy recognition.

Anyone can do a fancy layout, but it's few who can create a overall design language for a entire platform. And this is why Sense UI doesn't make awful lot of sense on the WP7.
[Windows Phone 7 General] havox22:
im not sure how his concept would be less easy to recognize, but even if it is o well it looks great, id rather have black tiles then any of the colors they provide anyway
[Windows Phone 7 General] Windcape:
Yeah, the black/yellow theme is likely the option HTC will go with as default.

But I'm more explicit thinking of the circular buttons used for navigation and the application bar. It's preferable if they stay as a single stroke color used for the vector graphics used everywhere else on the platform.

Because the thing is, opposed to previous phones, HTC can't make a "Sense" theme apply so deep into the phone, as the otherwise would, as most buttons are vector graphics directly in XAML, and not replaceable images, and most Hubs are applications, and not style-able widgets.
[Windows Phone 7 General] _LeCiel_:
You're taking this far too seriously. I'm obviously not working for HTC and I wasn't payed to create your vision of how WP7 and Sensu UI should look. Just like you or anyone else I have my own vision. The only difference is that I made the effort to make it "real" on some level and decided to share it with the XDA community. I think you're just being rude.

It's not like this is a preview of a real skin for WP7 that I'll be working on. :rolleyes:
[Windows Phone 7 General] Windcape:
You're rather strange if you would consider 2-3 pages of praises to be a good response to your work. Criticism is the only way to improve, and being taught a bit about why the design language is important, from a application developers point of view, should help you think your layouts though, beyond what's just a fancy home-screen.

Nobody's denying it looks good, but looks is not even the half of it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] romskii:
AWESOME!!!

i would have such a device with this Sense UI! The one from WP7 does not looks as good as this
[Windows Phone 7 General] _LeCiel_:
Thank you:)
[Windows Phone 7 General] 96edwy:
posted about this in my blog

http://96edwy.wordpress.com/2010/08/19/htc-hd3-concept/

or you can check out the whole blog at http://www.96edwy.com
[Windows Phone 7 General] _LeCiel_:
A bit short:p But thanks:)
[Windows Phone 7 General] rruffman:
Change of Home Screen

I could very well see this design in a windows phones 7 as HTC could create there own tiles and remove the tiles that come default with windows phone 7 the UI allows you to remove / rearrange any tile on the home screen as its easly done in the current emulator...
[Windows Phone 7 General] paperclips:
Still not possible seeing as tiles are squares/rectangles that are colors. Something like this would be possible but it would only be similar in function. It would look nothing like this at all unfortunately.
[Windows Phone 7 General] markus_del_marko:
so...are you going to throw a hissy fit if htc adopts his design? :rolleyes:

look at the poll, people want it. the standard wp7 UI is crap..pure & simple. hell even if i won one for free i wouldn't use it, that sucker would go up for sale. that's if anybody would buy it in the first place? most devs have moved on to android now. it will take alot to bring them back to winmo.
[Windows Phone 7 General] blaiz123:
And ur basing this assumption that the Windows UI is "crap" on what? Your personal opinion? See you fanboys just keep talking trash about Windows Phone when you haven't even had the chance to try it. After actually TRYING the Android UI I decided that it's a laggy piece of **** that has absolutely no comparison to how smoothly WP7 runs based on trial reviews, and how much better it's going to be by Q4 2011. SO why don't you actually give it a chance before you talk trash.
[Windows Phone 7 General] markus_del_marko:
personal opinion & lack of interest in it around the net. don't believe me? do some searching.
[Windows Phone 7 General] blaiz123:
That "lack of interest" comes from people being pissed off at Microsoft for 4 years because they took so long, not because people think the UI is crap, they haven't even tried it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] rruffman:
The tile can be of what ever shape you make it as it takes on the shape of your background.png it just have to fit in a 173 x 173 size for a single tile or 173 x 346 for a double tile and because the tile can be live htc could easly update the nessary data to the tile. here is a sample of a quick cut out of one of the tiles running on the actual emu. if i can get a actual tile pic with the rounded corners from _LeCiel_ then i can add it as a better example...
[Windows Phone 7 General] _LeCiel_:
Wow, you mean it's really possible? So all those people *****ing how I made something that can't be done in reality were wrong? :eek: That's awesome! Maybe I'll be getting a WP7 device after all :P
[Windows Phone 7 General] rruffman:
Yes its possable... if HTC dont do it I could write the apps and you supply the graphics and it could still be possable..
[Windows Phone 7 General] rruffman:
Sample 2 With rounded corners

Here is sample 2 with rounded corners.. so all the stuff that is not possable... well it is...
[Windows Phone 7 General] markus_del_marko:
apparently you better do some research before commenting. :rolleyes:
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
Damn, looks like I'll be modding again. That's some great news!
[Windows Phone 7 General] markthomson1404:
Nice Theme

I know when i get my win 7 phone i will be looking for this as a theme to put on it . Great work even if you dont turn it into an actual theme

Mark:)
[Windows Phone 7 General] Bengal34:
You won't be able to change 1st party stuff but they can do all kinds of crazy stuff with their own hubs and tiles.
[Windows Phone 7 General] rruffman:
correct but we will create our own apps with links to messaging, email, etc. and skin the tiles the way we want.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vinod_machani:
Good Work brother
[Windows Phone 7 General] zane1374:
Great input rruffman. My bad feelings about wp7 may change with this insight. _LeCiel_ keep working on your concepts and the others who have been brainwashed by the "Wizard of Oz"(wp7) PLEASE take note!:D;)
[Windows Phone 7 General] jagan2:
@rruffman: You have done a great work by showing us that HTC Sense 3 is actually possible :)

Shared this news over here. Tweet it if u like.
[Windows Phone 7 General] n8huntsman:
HD7 coming Oct. 18? I hope that's correct!
[Windows Phone 7 General] diego1985:
I can't believe the geeks that sitting in here, hating on this dudes sick phone design. When you look at this you should be like "Damn thats a nice phone". Dude let these haters motivate you. You ought to get paid for this design.
[Windows Phone 7 General] DANIEL050:
how i download it?
[Windows Phone 7 General] rruffman:
Nice Job!!! Thanks for the write up
[Windows Phone 7 General] _LeCiel_:
Haha:) You made my day. Thanks :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] Ruudfood:
I'm trying to keep an open mind about the functionality of WP7 but with the standard look and feel I just don't think I would touch it with a barge pole.

With your design though _LeCiel_ I'd be on it like Wayne Rooney on a hooker!
[Windows Phone 7 General] FreeDee:
Wow, that looks great! Well done.
[Windows Phone 7 General] reocej:
Saving my upgrade for this phone! LOL!!!:eek::D:p
[Windows Phone 7 General] Aaron McCarthy:
Has this design or anything like it been incorporated into any of the existing WP7 themes?
[Windows Phone 7 General] ih4ckback:
That's amazing.

I want this on my phone lol.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Yulistana:
Wouw,,,awesome design.

I hope it could be produce better.
[Windows Phone 7 General] djaymel:
Can you share these icons please ? Or the graphic elements ?
[Windows Phone 7 General] nehvada:
at least partly this should be possible with next update. microsoft has promised "some more customisation options". only thing we need is to add pics to the tiles, same way as you change the pictures tile background. we than "simply" change the background image of every tile and make sure the displayed information will still be readable on that background. same like the "pictures" title on that hub in the lower left corner.

so you wont even need an app for that. simply push all images to your device and choose them in the app settings.

i allready have pocket weather running here and it displays the current weather situation with an icon as well as my location.

i wouldnt even need that much of a sense-like os, but with options like that you can get pretty close to sense3.

anyway, that artwork is astonishing, good job!
[Windows Phone 7 General] clicheboy:
Awesome Dude...
[Windows Phone 7 General] htc9420:
Good work

...still....what THREAT is he talking about all over the 1st post? LOL
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
That's beautiful! You should most definitely NOT send it to HTC! You should take it with you when they place you in the position of chief design engineer. Then you will have much more leverage for getting it to reality.
[Windows Phone 7 General] mike21pr:
you know what would be amazing??? the animated panoramic weather background (the one u see when u browse apps in the htc hub) as the homescreen background behind the tiles and app list
[Windows Phone 7 General] xplus93:
pure brilliance, just plain amazing. I don't care if HTC makes it or not, but you should make this happen. I would love to use this on an hd2 or any other windows phone device.
[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
I had hoped this would stay dead.
[Windows Phone 7 General] _LeCiel_:
HTC Logo

Thanks.:) Actually I left it out on purpose. There's no space to put it on the front I figured a huge logo on the back (like on the newest HTC devices) would be more then enough.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
Dude you're such a buzz kill. The first post explains everything about what this is.

Its great work!
[Windows Phone 7 General] _LeCiel_:
Thank you;)
[Windows Phone 7 General] moonman:
Good job. You just killed Windows Phone 7's personality.

I care about my content, not the fancy graphics. Leave the eye candy for hypePhone and Android, WP7 needs a simple and clean interface. I think Metro UI "looks good enough" on its own.
[Windows Phone 7 General] _LeCiel_:
Jeez. It's just a concept - if you don't like it, fine but 2/3 users do. I, personally like some aspects of metro (the icons, keyboard, simplicity of the apps) but I think the live tiles are hideous and I won't buy a WP7 device unless they can be skinned. But that's my opinion, so I don't waste time to write hateful comments on threads about WP7 Themes. I just don't download them and install onto my device, but I respect the time and effort it took the developer to make it.

I can appreciate constructive criticism, 'cause it helps me do a better job, but that's not the case here.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Furies:
Let's hope HTC can work their Sense UI magic on Windows 7 like their WM 6.5 and Android systems!

I love their style for all their phones, regardless of OS

Edit: Your skills with image editing is very impressive :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] moonman:
Then you won't buy one. ;)

I was not hateful. Your concept looks good, I never said it doesn't. It's good - for Android, but not for WP7. Windows Phone has a different style.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Windcape:
Why is it everybody get a boner every time they see bevels? Try re-do the layout with sharp corners instead of bevels, and some more contrast on the text (so it's actually readable), and then you basically just created a WP7 with a black/yellow layout.

Really, the bevels does all the eyecandy magic here. And no, bevels aren't nice for touch, really, they aren't.
[Windows Phone 7 General] TheATHEiST:
That's a opinion and its subjective, its not a fact so don't try and state it as such.
[Windows Phone 7 General] RustyGrom:
I just don't see the relevance in all these "Sense" concepts. They aren't going to happen as they break the "rules" that Microsoft has set. Why not mockup the various sense apps or some sort of sense hub that they might actually be able to do?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Fermat:
Leave WP7 as it is. Seriously, just leave it alone.

It's the most beautifur UI ever created, don't ruin it.

Not too functional, but beautiful. There needs to be something good about WP7, so please leave the design alone, it's as awesome as it gets without the Sense skinning or anything else.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Bengal34:
I like the device and the interface is nice to look at, but the changes to the interface aren't feasible.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Madcypher:
Haters...

Beautiful design work, tremendous updates to WP7 UI! I love it, if this phone were for sale, I'd be the first in line to get one!
[Windows Phone 7 General] intimidatorx31:
I know how you feel man. I was recently getting flamed over at another forum for something i came up with and the criticism just never stopped coming.

As far as what "he said" about how windows phone 7 personality is killed....

honestly.... windows phone 7 is like android in the sense that their interfaces alone at launch date were meh (in my eyes)..

I didnt start to realize how great of an OS android really was until the htc hero with sense ui.

Similarly windows phone 7 has a pretty decent concept for their os however it had one of the worst graphics ive ever seen. Much needed eye candy was provided in your concept and this has rejuvenated my interest in windows phone 7.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sith.I.Am:
I would have enjoyed. good job
[Windows Phone 7 General] _LeCiel_:
Exactly. Even if people here comment on how ugly my Sense 3 looks and how much they love Metro I'm pretty sure that HTC will come up with a way to implement Sense in their WP7 phone and just like with previous versions of WM you'll be able to turn off Sense and use the default Metro skin (just like now you can have an HD2 but use only Titanium). I know it's a completely different system but from looking at Android I'm pretty sure HTC won't launch a phone without their famous flip clock and weather animation. Honestly, it's their trademark and I'm sure they want people to still say "Oh, you've got an HTC smartphone?" and not "Oh, is that a WP7 phone?". Again, that's only my opinion.

...and now all Metro-lovers are gonna write how wrong I am.:rolleyes:
[Windows Phone 7 General] RustyGrom:
I'm sorry but you are incorrect. Microsoft has mandated that the UI be left unchanged. HTC will not be able to do Sense as we think of it today. Yes, they will probably bake something in that's referred to as "Sense" but it will not be a home screen or any other UI replacement. OEMs are allowed to augment the UI through developing their own applications/hubs however they are not allowed to replace anything. This isn't a matter of opinion or dislike for your mockup, it's just a fact. Look at HTC's comments on the matter if you don't believe me.
[Windows Phone 7 General] _LeCiel_:
I know. I've read about it some time ago, but I still think we'll all be surprised when HTC will launch their first WP7 phone. I'm not saying it's going to be heavily skinned like in my concept but somehow they will manage to make it very Sense looking even without a skin (let's say they will change the images in all the tiles and skin their own applications still keeping the simplicity of Metro). I'm sure it's not gonna look like my mockup but still it'll be different from other WP7 devices running standard Metro and it will make people go "Oh, you've got an HTC smartphone with WP7!".
[Windows Phone 7 General] Bengal34:
They can't change the images on the tiles, change the icon-graphy, add backgrounds, etc. What they can do is to create their own tiles with a sense theme to them and clicking on them to take you to a sense hub where you'd have all of the normal information aggregated into it. OEMs will be able to create double tiles so we'll most likely see one of them at the top of HTC phones that has the weather, time, etc on it and another for stocks and what-not.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Hattori_Hanso:
My dream come true with this concept, good work man!
[Windows Phone 7 General] efjay:
And all this in 60MB. The less HTC crap the better I say.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Bengal34:
I just wish that they would take this kind of OEM stance with big Windows. When you buy a computer it should be a complete fresh install with only a couple uninstallable programs.
[Windows Phone 7 General] jimecm:
very nice and clean, posted your work at ppcgeeks, on post 882.

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=124921&page=89
[Windows Phone 7 General] _LeCiel_:
Thank you :)