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[Vibrant General] kolyan:
I am just a bit pissed off.....friend is skiing and listening to internet radio and I can't even read an email :)

I wish 3g wouldn't be this spotty. I listen to internet radio in car and it stops playing when I hit 2g for a few minutes or so.

I am not in center of boston, but I am near major area and highways. Always have 3g at home, but never over 1mbps
[Vibrant General] I_Droid:
I regularity get over 5Mbs when I have full bars. But the other day got 6.04Mbs sitting inside a hamburger joint. Bellevue, WA.
[Vibrant General] Blueman101:
Boston is scheduled to get HSPA+ in a few months.
[Vibrant General] kolyan:
I hope that's true. I really don't mind 1-2mbps, I just need it to be steady
[Vibrant General] Blueman101:
it says it on tmobile's website, and they havent lied about a city yet.
[Vibrant General] dattaway:
Tmobile's 3G is almost as fast as ATT Uverse over wifi. So, I am not complaining!
[Vibrant General] oDeACoNo:
When I'm on HSPA+ here in Florida I usually get between 5-6 Mbps down. Which is pretty nice considering it's just my cell connection :-)
[Vibrant General] Aphotix:
Tmobile still has a lot of roaming in maine and new hampshire. Expect them to fix that before they start throwing in 3g (roaming costs the carrier a sizable chunk of change.)
[Vibrant General] iunlock:
You're right in the heart of T-Mobiles headquarter building my friend...I hope you're hitting those speeds haha...It'll get faster!

Well ....7.2Mbps max on our phones :)
[Vibrant General] coolguy949:
Yeah I hate how slow tmobile is too :P

Sent from my Samsung Vibrant using the XDA	App
[Vibrant General] all4degame:
IDK what you're talking about, since I've gotten my Vibrant, I've been getting some ridiculous speeds.

‎:::.. Download Stats ..:::

Download Connection is:: 4438 Kbps about 4.4 Mbps (tested with 6144 kB)

Download Speed is:: 542 kB/s

Test Time:: 2010-07-26 06:19:14 GMT

Bottom Line:: 77X faster than 56K 1MB Download in 1.89 sec

Tested from a 6144 kB file and took 11.34 seconds to complete

Download Diagnosis:: Seriously? Are you kidding me?: You are running at 508% of your hosts average (tmodns.net)

User Agent:: Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 2.1-update1; en-us; SGH-T959 Build/ECLAIR) AppleWebKit/530.17 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile Safari/530.17 [!]
[Vibrant General] glennordway:
The other morning I was doing a speedtest and got almost 6 in jacksonville
[Vibrant General] gravis86:
Haha yep! Bellevue speeds rock! Yay for T-Mo headquarters being 10 miles from my house!
[Vibrant General] paradox4286:
San antonio
[Vibrant General] edykes1:
I live in the Boston area and I agree that 3G isn't the fastest. But I was in the North End last weekend and I was getting 3Mb down and 1up. Not sure why that is. Kid at the TMO store said we should see HSPA+ in Sept/Oct, but as previous posts have stated, this info is on the website.

I just hope when they roll it out that it covers a large part of NE. 3G in NE is not that extensive.
[Vibrant General] talltexan:
I was thinking the same thing they better damn well cover that state haha.

In ATX i get up to 6mbps normal is 4.5 and dip down as low as 2mbps in 3g coverage area. (were a hspa+ city though )
[Vibrant General] Astitious:
Minneapolis just upgraded to HSPA+ and I couldn't be happier with the speeds.
[Vibrant General] DonutYankee:
I'm kinda disappointed with T-Mobile living here in NYC now. All these reports of 4+ mbps, and I can't even hit 3.

I know NYC is densely populated, but with so much bandwidth available, I'm kind of disappointed. I have friends on iPhone 4's getting 3.5 mbps downstream on AT&T of all networks.
[Vibrant General] acspin:
At my house (Tucson, AZ) five minutes from downtown...Pathetic.

Even when I get 3g around town its usually no more than 1.5Mbps
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
I've never understood the want for 3G at home, where the majority of us have WiFi that drains the battery at a far slower rate. T-Mobile knowingly left 3G coverage spotty in their first round of deployments and they are working on filling coverage in this year but I still wouldn't use 3G over WiFi at home.
[Vibrant General] scrizz:
what i find funny is if I use the speedtest app i get ~3-4Mbps

If I use the browser speedtest i get ~6Mbps

:D
[Vibrant General] iunlock:
I know exactly what you mean, I've always wondered which one was accurate and which one was not haha...
[Vibrant General] iunlock:
3.5Mbps down on ATT? Are you sure?
[Vibrant General] FreydNot:
6+ near the Seatac airport in Seattle...
[Vibrant General] devcurious:
I'm in Atlanta where I get consistent 4+Mbps downloads. However, I was in Boston for a business trip about 2 months ago and the data performance there is horrible.

I commented to my coworker while we were in Boston, that I never understood the people that complained about T-Mobile's data speeds until now. As much as I like T-Mobile, if I lived in Boston, I would not be a T-Mobile customer.

Hopefully you will get some relief when they do the HSPA+ upgrade. There was never a problem with signal, just constant low data speeds, dropped connections and general inconsistent performance.
[Vibrant General] funeralthirst:
i'm in boise, id with hsdpa and i typically get around 300-500kb down and 600-700kb up on my vibrant, same i got on my g1 and my wife gets on her cliq. i've tried all over town, and at home which is like a mile from the nearest tower. not to mention we just finally got 3g here less than 6 months ago.

consider me unimpressed with tmob 3g and jealous of everyone posting hspa+ and their 3-5mb down...
[Vibrant General] kolyan:
Just got 800/700 in Brookline, MA
[Vibrant General] gravis86:
Yeah I got this in Seattle the other day, but the up speed felt like I was on AT&T!

The one in my sig is from Kirkland:
[Vibrant General] scrizz:
here in Tampa I haven't seen UL higher than 650k, eventhough I get 4-6Mbps DL
[Vibrant General] kolyan:
Driving from Framingham to Boston on route 9 my 128kbps streaming radio dropped at least 7 times due to EDGE switching. Dropped about 4-5 times on the way back using I90 Massachusetts Turnpike. While on EDGE, I couldnt even stream 64kbps streams.....
[Vibrant General] Superfrag:
Any idea about how T-Mobile is in Penn State, University Park, and how is it at Erie, PA?
[Vibrant General] merchomini:
Well i did a speed test compared to an evo and it was getting 3mbps, and my vibrant was downloading at 5.2 mbps.
[Vibrant General] gravis86:
Yeah my EVO got raped by my N900. That was part of the reason I returned it. The fastest I got on my EVO was about 3.6mbps in a 4G blanketed area.
[Vibrant General] j0hnZ:
I wish it was that fast in Tacoma like it is in the Seattle area. I'm in University Place and I haven't seen 2mbps here yet. Though when I was in Texas I was seeing almost 4mbps.
[Vibrant General] MacGuy2006:
West Los Angeles sucks...

On T-Mobile in West Los Angeles, I get between 100kbps and 600kbps downloads. Same for the Valley (except in one spot I get up to 2200kbps).

The uploads are generally similar, although in some spots they are better than the download speeds, topping out at 1200kbps.

All of these areas are listed on T-Mobile's map as having the "fastest" available speeds.

So far, AT&T has better speeds here, hitting 1500+kbps more often, in my experience.

In Orange County I got something like 2200kbps down and 1500kbps up.

Overall, I am not too impressed. Maybe T-Mobile coverage in Los Angeles sucks, but after hearing all the bragging about 4-5mbps I was expecting more.
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
AT&T "coverage" is horrific in Los Angeles overall. I wouldn't even waste my time with AT&T in Los Angeles.

T-Mobile generally has far lower network latency. Los Angeles is a HUGE city.. they're still building out 3G and HSPA+. However much like AT&T, GSM coverage is still dominant.
[Vibrant General] MacGuy2006:
Hm, at least for me, across the West Side (from say, West Hollywood to Santa Monica), in the hills and in the Valley on the other side of the hills, AT&T has comparable voice coverage, and overall better data coverage than T-Mobile.

As I said, I get almost double the download speeds on At&T than what I get on T-Mobile.

Yes, LA is a big city, but the West side is fairly important and is what I personally have experience with. I did have high hopes for T-Mobile, but so far it has been a step backward in terms of data speeds.
[Vibrant General] Shagman68:
I hit 6mbps down the other night in Tempe, AZ.
[Vibrant General] bryon13:
Bad title... If you do your research, Tmo has the fastest network. It's even faster than Sprint's so called 4g.

The future looks so... Vibrant
[Vibrant General] vibrantFTW:
Stuck with 3G and no HSPA+... just south of Seattle. Der.

Regards,

B
[Vibrant General] setzer715:
Please keep in mind that the coverage map is just for standard 3G speeds as T-Mobile has not officially launched HSDPA+. By the end of this year, LA will be covered by HSDPA+ with up to 21Mbps download speeds.
[Vibrant General] reuthermonkey:
the coverage map indicates both "standard 3g" (Fast Mobile Web) as well as their HSPA+ in LA (Very Fast Mobile Web)...
[Vibrant General] razormy:
25 - 550 kbps

S. FLORIDA

Palm City, Jupiter, West Palm Beach, Lake Worth, Boynton Beach

Connection changes from low bar 3G to Edge many times in the day.

I have had att and sprint prior and both were much faster in my areas.

Returned an Evo for this phone. Still happy with sacrificing net speed for galaxy.
[Vibrant General] jrwingate6:
You call T-Mobiles data speed slow? Actually T-Mobile blows all other carriers away with it's data speeds provided you are in a area with HSPA+ coverage. Sprint's WiMax can't even come close to this.
[Vibrant General] iunlock:
6Mbps today in Factory (Bellevue) area...doing some more traveling so I'll let you know how the speeds are elsewhere.

Hang in there TM's still expanding their HSDPA+....
[Vibrant General] kolyan:
I would ptefer a steady 1-2 mbps vs 5-6 in one place and 5 minutes from there get edge or gprs in some cases
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
All in due time. Besides that, I'm wouldn't call the mountains "5 minutes away" unless you actually live there.
[Vibrant General] newspeak:
I am in the tampa bay area and my average all over town is around 2.7 down and 1.4 up...the fastest I have seen is 4 down....my friend saw 6down the other day but that seems to be very rare
[Vibrant General] boomerbubba:
I may just be ignorant, but I thought the Vibrant (and other existing devices) do not support HSDPA+. I thought it will take new phones designed to take advantage of its speeds, and those phones have not yet been released.

It would make me happy to be wrong about this.:)
[Vibrant General] sigeltek:
I don't understand where everyone gets these speeds from... I'm in Denver, CO. and according to the speedtest app I get:

0.84mb/down and 0.55mb/up
[Vibrant General] Blueman101:
Your right, but phones with HSPA can only go 7.2mbps of the HSPA+ network, they cant utilize the entire 21mbps that HSPA+ gives. A new phone with HSPA+ is required to utilize all the 21mbps.
[Vibrant General] Blueman101:
Denver, is not currently covered by HSPA+, but tmobile's site says Denver should have it by the end of the year.
[Vibrant General] gsvnet:
Mobilespeedtest is probably the most inaccurate site out there for speed testing IMO. I don't think the above test is accurate. You should use Speedtest.net's android app.

I agree that T-Mobile's network is fast in many areas, but not everywhere yet.

Looks like you are not in an HSPA+ area, but rest assured that your service should be upgraded soon enough.
[Vibrant General] reuthermonkey:
While T-Mobile is faster than everyone else, that speed test isn't exactly accurate. Most notably because the Vibrant maxes out at 7.2mbps, yet that speed test is 7.4mbps...
[Vibrant General] ytj87:
Isn't the Vibrant an HSPA device, not a +?
[Vibrant General] ytj87:
4.5M down near LAX in L.A.
[Vibrant General] Emama:
I have only MAX 0.25Mbps in most Boston area ;_;
[Vibrant General] Blueman101:
Boston should have HSPA+ by the end of the year.

Also yes it is impossible for the Vibrant to get anything higher then 7.2 mbps
[Vibrant General] sigeltek:
So my speed is normal then? or should it still be faster....
[Vibrant General] Blueman101:
Well, your speeds are higher then Edge would ever support, they look on the lower side of normal, but stil normal. Perhaps give a call to a local store to see what they say and if all else fails just know that HSPA+ is coming.
[Vibrant General] sigeltek:
cool, thanks for info..
[Vibrant General] boomerbubba:
So do I understand correctly that the Vibrant witll support peak speeds of up to 7.2 Mbps on a HSPA+ network, but some future devices designed for this feature will be able to see peak speeds up to 21 Mbps? And that neither peak should be expected as normal?

BTW, in my area, I tend to get 2-3 Mbps downloads as reported by SpeedTest. So I assume that we have HSPA+ here, and those actuals are what I will usually get. I have never seen anything close to 7.2
[Vibrant General] Blueman101:
you got it dude, there should be a HSPA+ phone by the end of the summer. A few of them actually by the end of the summer. And better yet, they wont charge you $10 more like sprints 4G
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
2-3Mbps could very well be 4-5Mbps, the app isn't very accurate anymore for some reason. It was spot-on with Android 1.5. Tether for the best results
[Vibrant General] j0hnZ:
Personally I would be fine with 4-6mbps, I had 2 laptops tethered on my MT3G in Texas with their HSPA+ working great. Made doing school work great on a trip.
[Vibrant General] scrizz:
how are you getting 1.4 up?

I only get .5 up

I'm in brandon btw
[Vibrant General] voghan:
I get 2-3mb down and .5mb up in the twin cities. Tmobile is much faster than sprint and att here.
[Vibrant General] reuthermonkey:
The G1 is an HSPA device. Hell the SE TM506 is an HSPA device.

HSDPA and HSUPA are both specs under HSPA.

HSPA+ stands for HSPA Evolved. An evolution from standard HSPA.
[Vibrant General] jkang29:
Most of you guys are so lucky.

I'm in north county san diego and I get 0.2mbps down, 0.6mbps up.

This is with 3G 2-3 bars.

Very disappointing
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
I don't think San Diego has HSPA+, but I do have to tell you that this is the one of the primary reasons for them focusing on HSPA+. Their current 3G network won't, and CAN'T handle much more traffic. It's having trouble just dealing with utilization now. I will say that .2Mbps seems slow but it's perfectly fine for surfing and streaming. I've been on towers that see speeds of about .1-3Mbps (varies) and web browsing isn't terribly worse than when I'm on a tower with HSPA+ and 3G speed of 1Mbps and beyond.
[Vibrant General] jayzusfk:
End of summer would be a bit early. More likely by holiday season, though one or two may trickle in before...
[Vibrant General] Blueman101:
Normally i would agree with you, but with every tech site on the internet scream by the end of summer and then linking to this website http://first-hspa-smartphone.t-mobile.com/ Its hard to know which one is true. Also the summer season technically ends Mid September so...
[Vibrant General] pittphan:
I was pulling 4 Mb down in south Jersey yesterday. I typically get between 1-2 Mb down in Princeton when I'm at work.

Ive gotten 6 Mb down through tether on my laptop before in the Philly area. But I usually see around 3 in the Philly area.

sent from my Vibrant.
[Vibrant General] kolyan:
Not mountains. Boston area. My connection drops to Edge 5-7 times in about 30 min trip on major hways or roads
[Vibrant General] jerhoyet:
The same thing happens to me, but I still consider it a good trade off for how much I pay. In my area (Northern Virginia, DC, Southern Maryland) I get decent enough 3G coverage to justify sticking with T-Mobile.

Would I like the coverage of Verizon? Yes, I can't lie, I would love to have an actual signal through West Virgina when I drive to Indiana to visit my family, but I only make that trip once a year in a car, and I can't justify spending an extra $500 a year to have Verizon's coverage.
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
That's what you said, not me.

Verizon's EV coverage does the same for me. Lots of 1X only areas. If you want to lock the phone on 3G so it doesn't revert to EDGE you can do that too. Just because the phone switches over to EDGE doesn't mean you don't have 3G coverage albeit weak. This would also eliminate time to reacquire the 3G network and if you do go into an area with no 3G you won't have coverage at all.

T-Mobile is doing 3G infill soon, I've already noticed new 3G in certain spots. T-Mobile gets busy with network expansion right around this time of year.
[Vibrant General] Blueman101:
No need to fear, once Tmobile gets their HSPA+ network running and a phone to run on it, plus the new dual core HTC Glacier Tmobile will take over the carrier world!!!
[Vibrant General] souliloquy:
I'm also from Tacoma. I'm seeing speeds from 83 kbps to 758 kbps down. In Renton, I get 3029 to 3326 kbps. Same with Tmobile in Seattle.

I really just wish they would be consistent all across the board.
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
Is there really such a thing? No wireless company has consistent performance across it's entire network and if you're not in a HSPA+ area that's all you can expect.
[Vibrant General] DonutYankee:
Still not touching 3 mbps downstream here in Brooklyn, NY, even at 2 AM. Lucky to get past 1.5 mbps during the daytime. T-Mobile is supposed to have HSPA+ deployed here in NYC. They need to upgrade their network, because this is sad. All that supposed bandwidth and getting AT&T-like speeds.
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
Are you tethering when you're doing this?
[Vibrant General] DonutYankee:
No tethering.
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
1) you need to tether if you want the most accurate results, be it the same as the results you get on the phone, you should be tethering.

2) it's wireless, you can't expect for it to be fast all of the time when you have people tethering their Android, Windows Mobile phones and using their data sticks. 3G bandwidth is also shared with calls
[Vibrant General] captain_awesome:
has anyone been successful in finding a way to edit the word dictionary on this phone? more specifically the one for the android keyboard. ive noticed that this one inserts proper nouns from my address book. i dont like that.
[Vibrant General] Blah man:
I've only seen one for the samsung keyboard, you can go under settings> text and locale> samsung keyboard>xt9 settings
[Vibrant General] yipcanjo:
Does anyone know who makes the default "Email" named client that ships with the Vibrant? Is that a Samsung app, Google app, or other? I ask because it seems to be *dog slow* doing even the simplest of things -- opening a message, refreshing, deleting, etc.. Has everyone else noticed this? Any fixes? In contrast, the built-in Gmail app is super-speedy.

On that note, is there a better Exchange-enabled client that I can install on this phone? Can the Android 2.1 client be ported to this phone? I need Exchange (mail, calendar, contacts) sync support. Also, I don't want to use Touchdown.

Thoughts?

Yip
[Vibrant General] techpreneur:
I had exchange before I moved to google apps for business. Exchange push worked flawless.

www.latistech.com
[Vibrant General] reuthermonkey:
Touchdown.

Yep, I saw that you said you didn't want to use it.

Touchdown's still my recommendation.
[Vibrant General] djxspike:
I have no problems getting exchange email in a timely manner via the default client...
[Vibrant General] yipcanjo:
It's not that I *can't* get my Exchange email -- the syncing appears to be working fine. The issue is the client itself: very slow and laggy. The Gmail client, by comparison, is fast and responsive.

Are others seeing the "Email" app slowness as well?

Lastly, does anyone know who makes the included Email app? Google? Samsung?
[Vibrant General] southpaw773:
the default exchange client in the nexus had zero lag.
[Vibrant General] Yogi76:
It also can't display HTML messages, doesn't highlight complicated URLs correctly (ones with & or = symbols), and has no copy & paste. At least, not from what I can tell.

Yogi

Sent from my Samsung Vibrant
[Vibrant General] Minker17:
Can we install the apk from the nexus on the vibrant?
[Vibrant General] toeshot:
I have not had a problem with the default email program. It has been fast and syncs all my email that I want it to. I did increase the size of the mail since our work uses a jpeg as a sig.
[Vibrant General] yipcanjo:
I second this. Anyway to grab the Nexus One mail client and install onto the Vibrant?
[Vibrant General] FreydNot:
Have you tried K-9 mail?
[Vibrant General] austindkelly:
I hate the default email app. Tried touchdown but it is not great. I switched to Google apps for business and migrated from my exchange server and I'm much happier all around.
[Vibrant General] techpreneur:
I agree. I just moved my exchange to google apps for business too.
[Vibrant General] yipcanjo:
Yes, Google Apps is a fine solution, and I'm using that for my *personal* email, but my work uses Exchange 2007.

Anyhow, I'm trying out K9 Mail and MailDroid, though I can't get either of them to connect just yet. I'll keep trying.

Otherwise, this really looks like a "wait until Froyo" situation, since the initial 2.1 solution didn't support Exchange calendar syncing. Version 2.2 should have what we need.

Hurry up and wait :)
[Vibrant General] MacGuy2006:
K-9 is much better, although it randomly goes for long amounts of time without getting some email, even though I can get them on my computer.

If it's mission criticle to get your emails on time, it's not very reliable, unfortunately (neither is the stck client).
[Vibrant General] yipcanjo:
WHOA! Hold the phone (no pun intended)...

I was looking at the "stalling" issues threads, and came across this *FIX* (Method 1) that was pretty easy to do: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=727279

Assuming that you're rooted, just install Busybox and Terminal Emulator (from the Marketplace). Alternately, you can use ADB from your computer, though I've never been able to get this to work. I was able to complete these commands directly on my phone from the emulator and reboot.

Anyhow, after applying this change, the default mail app is ABSOLUTELY FLYING. I kid you not. Just as fast as the Gmail client, if not somewhat faster. Really amazing. To be honest, the entire phone is much, much faster all around -- not just this mail client.

The downside? Well... technically the "app data space" is limited after this update, but I was only using 28megs (of 130megs total). Not too concerned. On that note, they give you the command to check your app data space, if you're wondering.

So....I am absolutely good for now. Happy with the mail clients and their performance.

Awesome!

Thanks for your help, everyone.

Yip
[Vibrant General] MV10:
The e-mail app in Android 2.2 is pretty great, I was running it on my G1 before I switched up to a Vibrant last week.

The e-mail clients from Google (before 2.2) were/are dismal, but I'm pretty sure they hired Marc Blanc, the guy who wrote the excellent ChatterMail client for the Palm Treo, who then went on to begin developing AndroidMail in 2009. I was a beta tester for AndroidMail, and in the middle of the beta he announced Google was soliciting his input about some sort of secret project. There was never another AndroidMail update after that, much to my dismay.

Then about eight months later I got my hands on the Froyo e-mail client in CyanogenMod6, and I had this nagging feeling I'd seen it somewhere before. Eventually I realized it looks like a super-polished version of what Marc was doing in ChatterMail and AndroidMail.

This is huge for me, because the problems in earlier Android e-mail apps were becoming a serious problem.

So my recommendation would be to sit tight, 2.2 is just around the corner...
[Vibrant General] Flak_Munky:
For what it's worth, I don't see any slow down or lag with the Exchange client. It is just as responsive as the GMail client and everything else on the phone.