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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DJGonzo:
Nope. You need to disable HTC Messaging. Im not even sure if thats possible anymore. I just cook my ROM without it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] loyolacs:
Thanks for the reply. If that is the case, are there any cooked ROMs out there based on the new version that have all the bloatware removed, and have HTC messaging removed?

I assume if HTC messaging is removed, there will be some sort of basic text messaging to replace it?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] FL5:
Well, here's a link discussing just this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=556614

Or you could do what I did, and delete the hundreds of text messages that had piled up. Sure, not the ideal solution, but it did fix the speed issue for me. Figure the next rom I flash I'll go for one that has the HTC messaging client removed from the beginning.

There are plenty of roms out there with HTC messaging already removed. For an example of one that's up-to-date, mostly stock, and with the bloat removed, you can try one of Wild Child's WCX roms. I've got one on my device right now, and I am enjoying how it runs.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Yusuke14:
I've had this happen with and without the htc messaging, so can't say it's htc messaging causing it. Only way I found to kinda sorta stop this from happening is to slide the phone back (hiding qwerty keyboard) then get out of the messaging program (htc or arcsoft). That works about 95% of time
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] gk527:
Is anyone else having issues getting to the Shipped-Roms website?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] hitekredneck:
I tried the other day and it came up blank. Can' try it from work because of the silly firewall but I'll try again later from home and see what I can come up with. LOL

Nice avatar! Go Big Blue!!! Whupped some Canuk arse they did. haha
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Pumpiron579:
it was down for a while but is now back up, the link works, You can allways get the ROM only from here,

http://tiny.cc/9y7lu
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] robseargeant:
Using Brian's taskbars there is not a voicemail icon. It is a "?' on the taskbar, and a blank icon on the bar that opens underneath is there is multiple notices. How can I get an icon for this?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] pajaa:
audiopara

Hi

Is it possible to someone upload audiopara.csv and audiopara3_TMO.csv from

this rom

Thanks in advance
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Yusuke14:
Here you go :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] :
Since you are asking for the audiopara files, I'm guessing that the "new" AT&T ROM still has the low volume problem? Curious minds would like to know. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] pajaa:
Hi

thank you

Regards
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] pajaa:
Hi

I am on RUU_Rhodium_S2_HTC_Europe_2.07.401.1_Radio_Rhodium_4.49.25.91_Signed_Ship.exe and I am satisfied with volume but I want to try with others audioparas because I have problem that sometimes w/o rules when, after somebody call me I am stayed tottaly without sound.

Regards
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] scsgoal31:
The real update is now officially available from HTC
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Pumpiron579:
Great find. It is about time uh. I wonder if they improved anything?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Xebec:
This is identical to the leaked rom from July. I performed a byte-by-byte file compare of the leaked file to the released file and they are the same. Being so, the same problems and bugs in the leaked version are also in the released version:

1) Old version of .NET CF

2) Some Marketplace apps do not run this rom (i.e. Wordly)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] kk0813:
Oh , I was hoping to get an updated radio. I just linked your post in rhodium energy Rom thread. Now I can skip flashing this. Thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] hx4700 Killer:
I have imported this rom in to osKitchen and removed 98% of AT&T crap and it is smoother and more reliable (and everything works in the OS) than any cooked ROM I have tried.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dudeluv:
Sounds good, care to share the rom.:cool:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] starkiller767:
Apparently HTC Tilt 2 Support web page posted the official update today.

"HTC TILT 2 (AT&T) ROM UPDATE 2.10.502.4 | 08.30.2010"

;)

-added-

Doh, didnt read far enough xD

Sucks that its the same as the leaked >.<

Least we have an "official" I guess. ^^
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] thepresence1:
Hx4700 killer

would love a copy too... :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] PUTALE:
i am curious if htc made any changes at all.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jaxboater:
Me too

I'd like a try also
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] seeM_ZA:
Are you getting the 2 bar bug, where signal shows 2 bars at all times?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] uwbadgers16:
yeah i am too....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] millcat72:
Anyone Install the New HTC ROM Update

Ok, has anyone installed the new ROM Update from the HTC site? I am running the Energy ROM and don't have any issues. But was curious to see if anyone has installed the new one and how they like it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] seeM_ZA:
If I remember correctly, someone did a byte by byte comparison and the official one is exactly the same as this leak.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dirtybirdphoenix:
when you chose the favorite there you can choose thier address card instead of a single number

i set the tesk manager in the start menu to the ptt hardware button to easily close all tasks, you can also install dutty's task manager but you have to exit sense ui, install it, then re-enable sense ui

i miss that as well

i wouldn't say that it takes more actions, you just have to learn the subtle differences and how to get around them

hope these tips help
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jbplumbing.ca:
SIm unlock

I keep getting Error 260 and I phoned the Help line on HTC and the lady said that ATT is blocking me because I sim unlocked my phone is this true?

Is there any work around for this?

BTW I am from Canada with Rogers wireless

I get the multi color screen that says:

RHOD300 32M ss-bc

SPL 0.87.0000
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] PUTALE:
i am not sure about sim unlcoked because my tilt 2 is also sim unlocked and I can flahs the unofficial release rom without any issue (did not try the official one). Though I am on ATT network so maybe that helps.

I did have hardspl flashed because I was using other roms, so maybe that woul dhelp.

If you get multi-color, try hardrest (press the call and hang up buttons together). it should rever tthe phone back to the stock setting.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] matrex-1:
Thanks for the suggestions, I miss the "X" options...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Thresher:
I was using the leaked but had to reflash for a different reason, flashed with official ROM and have left it bare.

So far i run into issues with netCF not being the correct version for some older apps.

I took someone elses good advice and simply used marketplace to download Wordly lite and it installed netCF proper and everything has worked.

I really dislike the HTC messaing app though. Is it possible to change the text app on an OEM rom like this?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Thresher:
I notice two things, I think one of them has been mentioned, just looking for your input

1. When inside of Outlook, I can no longer swipe left or right and instantly go to my text messages. I guess this is because HTC Messaging is handling the texts vs pOutlook on the last version?

2. Non-threaded messages in Outlook :( I use gmail/activesync which is exchange. I am so bummed about this.

I will say though the Gmail Java App is a better way to handle the gmail itself but it takes longer to get things done within that app.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Thresher:
I installed a few X button replacements and have had okay success. I am unsure if wktask is intended to run on this new build but it seems to work.

I made a mistake and installed too many programs at once and now have services.exe shutdowns and other errors. Going to clear storage and start again...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jbplumbing.ca:
I still cannot get the update to install just gives the 260 error no matter what I do. Can I try doing the SD cars loading trick?

Will that be a greater chance of bricking the Phone?

I tried Hard SPL and I gave me the same error on my desktop and my laptop.

any Ideas what to do?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Nick281051:
i had one of the energy ROMS prior to the new ROM update from htc (maxsense) but switched to the new update and i must say it is fast, faster than the leaked version in my opinion. and one cool thing you can do if you miss the task manager from the touchflo 3d ROM is search for touch x taskmanager it really closely imitates the original task manger. here ill post a link http://www.jayceooi.com/2010/01/05/add-missing-task-manager-on-htc-hd2/ it says for hd2 but works perfectly fine on my tilt 2
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Nylo:
New AT&T Rom... Should I or Shouldn't I.

Now that I have my Tilt 2, with all of the tweaks and hacks, running like I want it comes a new official ROM release. Damn, now I just don't know what to do. If it were not for the alleged speed increase I would just stay put. Is this ROM that much faster, and is the radio that much better?

At the moment I am experiencing no issues, or buggy problems... My phone is perfect, but the speed thing has got me intrigued.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Thresher:
Not sure what 'update' you are referring to but the new OEM executable does everything to the phone that is needed.

You should probably download the full executable with rom from htc.com, try with that package and see if you get errors. The update is for AT&T Tilt 2 not any other phone, you may run into locking issues with other carriers Rhodiums.:rolleyes:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Thresher:
Nylo, here is my personal quest on my AT&T Tilt 2:

Had OEM Rom, worked alright, sometimes I had lockups and slowdowns forcing a reset.

I then tried around 12 different ROMS and used them each for a few hours, days and even weeks (NRG).

I also had issues with each rom, literally each one had something that was a game changer.

This leaked AT&T official ROM came out, I put it on, was impressed instantly.

I now have the unleaked (identical it seems) HTC AT&T version from htc.com and I am loving it.

I've had it for a week (official since two days) and I really have no issues. I do notice a bit of speed increase.

I notice loads of people are overclocking to 700 mhz and above, just a side note.

To me it is worth the effort to move over to the new rom. I do not like a couple of things like the htc messaging but others love it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] zeoran:
I've had my Tilt 2 now since around February. I loved the new conversational format for SMS which I use RELIGIOUSLY. I tried switching from the stock rom to the ENRGY rom for a while, but got scared and switched back to the stock. I've been using that until this update came out and when I saw the changes, especially the switch to Sense 2.5, I was giddy. But Iv'e had a few issues with it that I desperately need help with.

Taksbar. The X is no longer there when I launch programs, so I have no way to close them. I've had to put the Task Manager program as one of the first 3 buttons on the main page just to keep things closed. (things used to close automatically or when I clicked on the the "X") I think I've seen a thread about a cab from Ditty that puts this feature back, so I may not need help here.

SMS. I like the new sms look and feel and the way it functions is somewhat better and has plenty of new features. But there is one GLARING problem and again, it's with the way to close the damn thing. Before, when I went to the SMS from the main menu, I would go into the actual SMS section, then type my message, I would get a delivery confirmation, I'd click that away, then there would always be an "X" at the top that I then clicked, which then took me back to "All Messages" and from there at the bottom-left corner was a button called "Back" which took me back to the main menu (the TouchFlo3D SMS screen). Now, after sending a message, I hear a little "ding", but I get no popup confirmation, although a bubble appears in my taskbar, and no matter where I go from there, from the person's SMS screen or the "All Messages" screen, all I see now on the bottom is "Send" and "Menu", there's NO way to get out of the SMS program and back to the main menu. I have to click on the start button and then click on "Today" icon to get back. Am I the only one with this problem????

SMS Side Note: I noticed that even in this new rom, the SMS program is version 1.5 and from what I've read around here, the latest version is 1.8. Is there any way to update the HTC messaging client on my Tilt 2 from this Rom's 1.5 version to the 1.8 version? Would there be any downside to doing it if it's possible?

Thanks.

~Mark
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Thresher:
Taskbar issue was solved just 5 to 6 posts ago in this same forum. Please go review to find the link to the HD2 X button that someone else graciously referenced. Or use WKTASK or another task switcher application.

SMS is an issue, as you can see from the posts immediately before yours I have posed the question to the forum, "Remove HTC Messaging" so my hope is that we find a solve. Please note in my SMS review I also mention the inability to swipe within pocketoutlook from SMS to Outlook now.

As far as closing SMS, when you are in a message you must press Menu...All Messages than you can close the app.

When I have tried other task management programs they fail to CLOSE the SMS message window on their own.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Nylo:
Thanks Thresher. Lots of good info.

I think I will take the dive. Got everything backed up so I doubt I'm risking too much. Its just it took me so long to get my phone where its at.

I do have a question. I have made a complete back-up of my phone. Can I use that back-up on the new ROM?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] zeoran:
SMS: Here's the thing... I do click on "Menu" then "All Messages" and then when I click on "Back" it takes me to a send-to-person screen for whoever was on the top of the "All Messages" list. So it's a perpetual circle never letting me out of the SMS application. I can't even click on my newfound "X" that I got with the Ditty cab. I click on it and it will close all other apps and it "closes" the SMS messenger, but I still see the screen until I refresh it by clicking on "Today" in the start menu or do something else. Is this weird or what?

HELP!!!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] crimsoncadillac:
I've been using it since it released and all the problems I had with it have been easily solved with a few searches. Dutty's Task Manager fixed X to close, found a cab that added back to having 4 columns from the new style 3, Messaging is the one issue I have as mentioned above it is a bit cumbersome to get around in and exit properly. But it's just different I guess and I can get used to it unless I find something easier and better.

Installed the usual tips and tweaks, Crudscraper and removed some other bloat manually, Adobe FLashLite, BsB Tweaks, Total Commander, cleanRam, the 4 column start menu grid from I believe isangelous, Net CF 3.7, 1% battery indicator, 16 quicklinks, Skyfire, slimcane's Opera Mobile Fixes and Uzeb CallHistory Tab.

Overclocked currently at 729.6 with iwfratz tool without any of the dynamic changes. I have been increasing it one step at a time and running it for a few days. Not sure I have it maxed out yet. No SODs yet either.

It is far smoother than the stock ROM. More eye candy mostly but obviously some performance tweaks HTC learned as well.

I have tried a few ROMs and my take on the Custom ROM's is like anything else, every Chef is different. You will either like it or hate it or like a typical stock ROM for a typical user just learn to live with it. Most of the Chef's here are in no small part awesome at what they do, however there ROM's are not right for everyone. If you were happy with stock before you will more than likely be perfectly happy with this ROM and it is definitely an improvement.

CrimsonCadillac

Currently Using a Tilt 2
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jbplumbing.ca:
Hi Thresher thanks for responding. The update that I was speaking of is the HTC.com updated rom, for the ATT Tilt 2. I have a ATT Tilt 2 that I bought off of ebay and sim unlocked and I am using it on rogers wireless here in Canada.

I downloaded the file called HTC_TILT2_2.10.502.4. I plug my phone in with usb cable let it astablish a activesync connection. Then I start program and get to the loader part with the progress bar, it never leaves 0% my phone goes to the multi color bootloader screen and says

RHOD300 32M SS-BC

SPL-0 0.87.0000

MicroP(LED) 0x0A

MicroP(KEY) 0x04

TURBO HW/TURBO SW

TP MFG DATA

Then ten sets of three numbers then CALIBRATED

Phone never leaves that screen.

Computer says Error 260 : Connection

and says to make sure usb is connected properly.

I have tried on my Desktop and laptop with different cables always the same

Any Idea what the problem is
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] crimsoncadillac:
How long have you let it run? During the initial phase it is actually copying drivers to do the ROM upgrade. This can take a while depnding on your computer. Also if you are the poster that mentioned someone saying AT&T is blocking it because of the unlock try removing the SIM first so it can not possibly detect the foreign SIM. Most Custom ROMS expect you to pull the SIM anyway so you don't accidentally get a call while it is finishing it's configuration after boot, so not a bad practice to use for all updates. However Error 260 usually occurs because the drivers have not properly installed. Google it you will find results for other HTC products and you could compare your finding with theirs.

CrimsonCadillac

CUrrently using a Tilt 2
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jbplumbing.ca:
Thanks so much for the reply

It never lets me run it very long it terminates by itself.

I have the sim card removed.

It does have a hard time finding drivers on its own is there anywhere that I can find them?

The only thing that was suggested taht I have not tried is to do a hard reset I dont really want to lose all my data unless I know for sure it will work
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] crimsoncadillac:
Flashing the ROM will do a hard reset anyway it is physically erasing your entire phone before it puts the new ROM down, so your data is gone period. So yes try a Hard Reset first.

Backup your data, Microsoft Myphone is free and gets most of it and stores it on a website where you can use it for other phones as well. It's jsut easy to use. There are obviously other choices and probably have more functions but for most average peoples use it should do fine.

CrimsonCadillac
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jbplumbing.ca:
ok I will try the hard reset and I will let you know thanks for the help
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jbplumbing.ca:
ok did the resore to factory settings and just tried the new rom again , same 260 connection error
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jbplumbing.ca:
I got it to work I had to let the program crash and get it in to the multi colour bootloader and then while the phone was in that state go in to devices and manually get win7 to look for drivers for some reason it was no able to do it in time before the program would crash restarted phone and then it worked.

Thanks for the help.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] LiquidXed:
New Rom on HTC's website

The New ROM is finally on HTC's website. Not sure if anyone has noticed. http://www.htc.com/us/support/tilt-2-att/downloads/
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Captain_Throwback:
Hi Mark.

To restore the "Back" button in the Messaging Client (and also the SMS tab of the People interface), you simply need to update this reg value:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\Manila]
"LSK_Send_Msg"=dword:1 ;1 (default) = Left Soft Key is "Send", [B]0 = Left Soft Key is "Back" & Send icon appears on interface[/B]
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] zeoran:
that worked!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love you!!!!!!!!!!!! My god that was bugging me!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] zeoran:
Couple more quick questions...

I've played with a bit more now and am noticing a few more quirks. Like the fact that it doesn't recognize when I've turned it to landscape mode as quickly as it used to. Also, when I'm typing in an SMS reply to someone, I'll be typing normal, then all of a sudden, the top area of the screen where it usually just shows the history of the conversation, flashes and goes from being the most recent part of the converstaion to a little ways back and the input box is gone, so I have to scroll down the history until I get it back to normal, then I can go back to typing in my reply and sending it. I can now get OUT of SMS thanks to the reg edit, but with the last ROM, when I clicked on "Send", it would give me a beep and a notification popup that I would have to "dismiss". Now I just hear a soft "ding" and it puts a stupid notification flag that I have to manually search for and get rid of later. Is there any way to get it to act like it did before? I'm one of the odd one's who does want notiifcation that my sms was sent.

Unlike others, I haven't noticed it being that much more responsive, but that may be because I'm using the stock ROM that came from HTC's website with all of the bloatware that it comes with. I noticed that I'm at 67% memory with everything closed, even though I load ALL my programs to my micro-sd card. Is there any way to free up even more memory or find out what's eating up as much memory as it is?

Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] armenh72:
NYLO,

I am in the same boat. My tilt2 runs just the way i want and do not want to loose all tweaks and apps i have on it. Moreover, I turned off TF3D... I do not think it will work out fully properly if yo restore back up from OLD ROM to the new one. If you decide to go ahead, note the following. Sprite Back up has an option to have incremental back up, so that you do not replace new ROM files with old ones. Second, if you do not like the new ROM you can go back to old ROM and for that you need that ROM - it used to be on HTC website, which they now have removed. I did save it just in case. Let us know if you do it and what kind of things you notice
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Nylo:
Well, I did it. To be honest I have not found any real performance increase though it does feel a tiny bit faster. Pretty much the only thing Ive noticed is the new Sense... Which I'm not to thrilled about, but this is only a personal opinion. I do like the new 4.49.25.95 radio.

The installation went flawlessly so there isn't much to say here.

In all there is not to much to report. Unlike others I never did have any buggy issues with the original AT&T ROM, but I am glad I did it... If only for the new radio.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] schmenge:
I am pretty underwhelmed by the new ROM. I never used T3D as it took too many taps/swipes and I could do nothing with tasks. I was looking forward to Sense and being able to use CHT. Well since I have Exchange policies in effect CHT won't work for me :( I don't see any speed difference. vLingo also seems to be killed by some policy. All in all I think I just gave up 25 megs (after crudscraper and personal scraping).

One of the tweaks I lost was a registry setting to have the TF3D menus. Can't find the post with the key to edit to get those back? Anybody?