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[XPERIA X10 General] Anandc:
right, my bad.

http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/cor...asedetails/xperiax8pressreleasefinal-20100616

Q3 2010 :)
[XPERIA X10 General] rvictorg:
Do you honestly think the X10 has poor battery life even after all the mild firmware updates we've had over the past 6 weeks? It seemed to fix the problem for everyone else. You've either never used another smartphone or you have insane expectations. With heavy use I can comfortably go 2 days, if I'm really frugal, 4 days no problem.

The X10 has a 4" screen which eats up a lot of juice not to mention the normal smartphone 3G usage, please tell me how long you expect the phone to last??

I think that the Desire is a better device RIGHT NOW, but after some tweaking on the X10 and the new firmware it won't be. And if you think the battery life will be better on the Desire play with your mates for a day or two. Also word of advice for him, don't constantly run the Super Mario live wallpaper.
[XPERIA X10 General] eazyrider:
Please dont patronise me.

So how do you answer the fact my battery last less than 14 hours with normal use? I know how well the X10 and Desire compare back to back as we spend most days at the beach kiting and if a group of us go camping then his phone will last 2 days where my X10 last 14-16 hours!

Now apart from the screen size how can the X10 ever be better than the Desire? Apart from trying to have a pissing contest and just boast, give me some "facts" on how the X10 will out perform it and prove me wrong!

I'm so glad you pointed out that a 4inch screen would be power hungry, I was worried when I could not power up my 42 inch tv with the phone battery and I will inform my mate that a power hungry feature like live wallpapers will drain his battery quicker as I'm sure he had never figured that out :rolleyes:
[XPERIA X10 General] ddewbofh:
There are a few things the X10 does much better. But first a question. Do you have the latest firmware installed? It should be *026? The later firmwares did a lot to increase the battery time.

Now onto the Desire. The X10's main advantage is the screen, unlike the AMOLED we have crisp images and full resolution. It's also much better in sunlight. Another thing it does better is battery-life, but again that depends on having the latest update. I get about two days of moderate use from my phone and about 24 hours if I use it as a wifi modem.
[XPERIA X10 General] wrongfeifong:
Easyrider did you even root or kill all the useless task my phone lasted 4 day on stand by why i was away on a trip. Did you even manage your power properly?
[XPERIA X10 General] tuxStyle:
You do something wrong.

My phone lasted 16h with the pre 020 firmwares.

With 024 and 026 it goes up to 40h.

With setcpu and juicedefender i can go for 3 days but is not worth it.

With setcpu the phone is laggy first few seconds after i turn on the screen and juicedefender sometime forgets to turn my wifi on :P

This being said, now that i have a data plan, i keep wifi off and data on and i manually turn wifi on when i'm near a wifi hotspot.

If you keep the GPS, Bluetoot, WiFi on 24h/day probably you can't go more than one day but same happens with any other smartphones ;)

I charged my phone last night and after 7h i'm at 78% battery.

Check your apps/widgets ... maybe one of them doesn't let your phone to go in standby.

PS: i don't use any task killers either.
[XPERIA X10 General] rogmar:
faster response for camera and in general.​
[XPERIA X10 General] rvictorg:
Hmm that is rather odd...maybe you need to repair your current firmware using SEUS because I can comfortably power both my X10 as well as my 50" plasma at the same time, it's a new timescape feature. Perhaps you should contact your service provider because it sounds like your X10 is being bogged down with bloatware as well they must have spotty 3G coverage on the shores you frequent which could be contributing to your horrible battery life. Maybe they aren't releasing the latest updates in a timely fashion either? Or you could just root your X10 and put 026 on there.

I use the X10 all the time while I'm beach kiting like a retard, having the superior 8MP camera allows me to capture just how big of a d-bag me and my mates are, far better than the measly 5MP on the Desire. Furthermore when we're giving each other hj's we can actually see what we're recording on the X10's screen--because AMOLED is impossible to see in sunlight, especially on the beach. I guess that's why I think the X10 will be better, only advantage is the Desire can flash custom roms, but hey at least the X10 doesn't look like brown ****.
[XPERIA X10 General] Surethom:
I have the HTC desire & it looks like the X10 has a far superior camera than the Desire (i know the x10 is 8 megapixel) the Desires, look cheep & the 720p video is ok but nothing special. :D
[XPERIA X10 General] bongd:
Calm your ass down. The X10 does need some tweaking but when you take the 10-15 minutes to configure the settings it'll last for days.

I use 3G and WiFi constantly and still get a few days of usage. Also use PSX and other emulators all the time, even music which I was afraid to do for fears of draining the battery. The X10 is flawed but you CAN fix it. With ease too.
[XPERIA X10 General] eazyrider:
Anybody else want to jump into this? :p

This has gone right of topic now but here goes:

Rooted R2****23 I cant get 24 as the fileshare site strangles me so much it just times out every time I try to download, I'm not going to 26 yet as there are a lot of complaints that since people have upgraded then the wifi keeps dropping in and out. Before the root I could kill the battery in 6 hours of use, I can be a heavy user as I run 2 business's from the phone and have clocked over 50 emails in a day so I do expect the battery to drain.

But how the f**k are you guys getting that long? I use start up auditor, setCPU (which really helped) and thats it as I turn my data off when not using it as I have used over 3gb of data in a month so turn it of to save it again only run GPS and wifi when I need it so thats not killing it but my issue is not the day to day usage.

When we went camping after I rooted we left at 6am and I did not use the phone till 10pm at the camp fire and my battery died by 2am but my mates Desire went on all night and all the next day.

So I base my findings on that.
[XPERIA X10 General] TechGuru_x10:
I don't agree buddy.........
[XPERIA X10 General] Nankov:
Man desire? Really? The only thing going for it is a little more ram and a broken dualtouch other than that is ugly with small screen and amoled on top of that with yellow or pink tint issues. And to top that stuff gets burned in easy like the top notification bar. Also a ****ty camera! So dont tell me **** about the desire being better than the x10. X10 has gorgeous big screen wich is very crisp and with good resolution a better camera and looks amazing. Also my battery on 26 last a good 2 days with moderate use it has almost replaced my pc to put it this way. Soon we will get 2.1/2.2 and it will be even better so dont try to tell me desire is better.

Sent from my X10i using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[XPERIA X10 General] berbecverde:
WTF people... we are going off topic again.

Just open a new thread to compare the X10 and the Desire.

:confused:
[XPERIA X10 General] hey69:
desire feels faster , x10 has better camera but it is very slow!

final conclusion i think desire is the better phone overal by a small margin

i have both
[XPERIA X10 General] knudsen81:
i also have both, but i don't think desire is faster, the x10 do freeze a bit then i write a sms, that do the desire not.....

we can really see then x10 get 2.1, because android 1.6 is slower then 2.1
[XPERIA X10 General] damirbusic:
Yea, my brother has Desire, on Froyo from yesterday, the phone is FASTER, built more solid, like a rock, and indoors its screen is waaay better, Sense is also the best UI on Android. Mine has better look - white, better camera, bigger screen (thats why I bought X10 ). If we dont get 2.1 with 720p soon I will dump X10 for Galaxy S, looks like it will be available in white. Thats way OT, so, please people, stick with the topic :)
[XPERIA X10 General] spark001uk:
I can't see it answered anywhere in this thread about support for flash content? I can only assume that as the desire supports it in its 2.1 so the X10's 2.1 will do also?
[XPERIA X10 General] bongd:
Virtually all Android phones with 2.1 and 2.2 are way faster than the Xperia X10. When I brought mine to work everyone crowded around but their phones are all better. I'm trying to sell mine and get a Nexus One or Desire because I'm sick of this phone.

It'd be okay if this phone had ****ty specs but it's got great specs and blows. Camera is beautiful if you have the PERFECT lighting, but indoor shots and anything else just blows. You need flawless lighting to take a good pic. I'm hoping that there is a FW update or that I can sell my stupid X10.

I wish I could get an EVO or Droid X but they're CDMA and the best Canadian provider is Rogers unfortunately... I have a feeling that I'm stuck with my X10 because no one wants it. It's in mint condition but everyone knows it's a phone with too many flaws. At least the battery lasts a few days with moderate - heavy usage. Now I can lament longer between charges.
[XPERIA X10 General] ddewbofh:
Yeah, it sucks having high expectations. It's a shame your phone deteriorated so bad, going bad on you like that. Well, that's how I'm assuming it went down anyway since spending a good chunk of change on a phone without testing it first is pretty stupid.

It's nobodies fault but your own if you had certain expectations when you got the phone and those didn't materialize and especially if you didn't do proper research before getting it.
[XPERIA X10 General] applebook:
Have you really tried the Dream and Magic with Cyanogen's 2.2 and 2.1 ROMs? They run like snails, with lots of snags and jittery transitions between menus.

Your X10 in mint condition is easily worth $400+ on eBay. I've monitored the auctions for the past week, and a vast majority of the mint ones went for over $400, a few near the $450 range. Sell it and begone.
[XPERIA X10 General] applebook:
I didn't need to fix a thing. My X10 gives me 2 full days with normal activity and over 3 with minimal usage. The original poster clearly didn't know what he was doing, or he had a lemon.
[XPERIA X10 General] mrtim123:
what is the focus of this thread now....i have not seen the OP in days and the topic has changed so many times now i have lost interest in following it.

not trying to stir anything up or whinge but without input from the OP who is using a dev 2.1 OS - all we can do is guess.
[XPERIA X10 General] Anandc:
He's right. I need some update now what's happening :D
[XPERIA X10 General] vrs2610:
k some fools here dont understand how a thread work or what the topic is. Go cry about the X10 somewhere else, and next time you buy something read up about it first!!

K in the 2.1 videos I noticed that the backgrounds have changed and stuff in the menus. Instead of a blue its like a blue to black wavy design, is this constant through out the phone. Can you change the blue theme to another color.

Most importantly are there an call quality improvements.

thanks
[XPERIA X10 General] mymagicmyhero:
This has been answered probably 10 times till now. No, there aren't any call improvements. And where did you see blue to black? It's still blue.
[XPERIA X10 General] -PiLoT-:
Because i believe debate and speculation are a good thing i don't mind this thread swaying a bit off topic

but keep the bickering to a minimum
[XPERIA X10 General] eazyrider:
Take a look at the screen shot gbil posted ;)

OK so how did me posting up this response:

"Why would there be any big changes?

Using my X10 and my mates Desire on 2.1 the only thing his does is the live wallpapers remember SE tweaked and back ported a hell of a lot from 2.1 to 1.6 so I'm not expecting anything big with this update.

I have started to hate SE with a passion the longer I own this phone, no multi touch which was promised as an update (the only reason I got this phone over the Desire) it will run bellow spec if it ever gets 3.0 so as I see it the phone was sold based on lies and was out of date before it was released. Really starting to hate SE"

Lead to over a page of people telling me I'm stupid and didn't do any research? I did and I understand how the phone works but if you dont like to have your prised possession being talked about in a bad way surely there are better ways to react than name calling and the proverbial spitting out of dummies.

So back on topic if the X10 now does almost all of what 2.1 can do what will be new to the phone? As things like turn by turn navigation was not possiable with the standard 1.6 OS but SE got it working and as I said the only new thing in the video was live wall papers that drain battery a lot, so what is going to be new?

I cant see the incall volume going up as it would have happened by now as after all it is a "phone" and the most important part about a phone is making phone calls so surely if SE could have sorted this it would have been done by now?
[XPERIA X10 General] HunteronX:
SE have hardly backported anything from 2.1 to 1.6 - only the Gmail app, I think.

Look here at the features of 2.0 and 2.1:

http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.0-highlights.html

http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.1.html

All new games can be played on 2.1, due to OpenGL ES 2.0 support, so you'll get less of - "This application cannot be installed on your phone."

Now what do you think?

Also, the in-call volume is fine for me - check that it hasn't reset itself to the middle, when in a call, so that you can hear the other person properly.

As well as this, live wallpapers don't drain the battery when implemented properly - it's due to bad development by devs, when battery life decreases so quickly, just like ALL apps.
[XPERIA X10 General] eazyrider:
Well this site was the first one that came up from a quick google.

http://gadgets.apnafundaz.com/2010/02/xperia-x10-is-upgradeable-android-2-1-does-it-really-need-to/

It lists a few of the things SE got a work around for, so there is more than just an app that SE tweaked :)

"All new games can be played on 2.1, due to OpenGL ES 2.0 support, so you'll get less of - "This application cannot be installed on your phone."

Now what do you think?

Also, the in-call volume is fine for me - check that it hasn't reset itself to the middle, when in a call, so that you can hear the other person properly.

As well as this, live wallpapers don't drain the battery when implemented properly - it's due to bad development by devs, when battery life decreases so quickly, just like ALL apps."

Yep knew all of that :rolleyes:
[XPERIA X10 General] Surethom:
Now back on topic.

The sample 720p you posted was very nice thanks, but can you please post another one on rapidshare & youtube please. Also what is the new firmware like when taking 720p video & photos in low light? :D

Cant wait for this update & maybe 2.2 next year??? I hope the hardware is capable of doing multitouch???? :D
[XPERIA X10 General] enzo0706:
Pics or Videos?
[XPERIA X10 General] mezo9090:
At least read the thread.....

sent from my x10i that is banging for a 2.1 upgrade. ...
[XPERIA X10 General] mymagicmyhero:
Yes, I'm looking at them, also I know the video and I can see blue and dark blue only!
[XPERIA X10 General] Surethom:
Both would be nice please
[XPERIA X10 General] r_theboss:
Does it have Arabic Language?
[XPERIA X10 General] Daniel_GB:
where are these too many flaws?(except android 1.6):confused:
[XPERIA X10 General] cesar527:
chat with sony ericsson support

I spoke with SE support by chat, I ask about R1EA029.

See the pic!
[XPERIA X10 General] Tom-Helge:
A translate would be nice to have.
[XPERIA X10 General] Liam2000:
It just says that R1EA029 will continue to be android 1.6, and that the update to 2.1 is expected only by the end of the year.
[XPERIA X10 General] cesar527:
is Spanish, not Chinese. is the third most spoken language

you can use google translator

Sorry I don't have time!
[XPERIA X10 General] kmaximax:
you could use google translator but it DOES NOT ACCEPT IMAGES! only text! :rolleyes:
[XPERIA X10 General] bushbox browser:
SE didn't back port maps navigation, google just realeased a version for 1.6. Nor did they back port the gmail app, it's the standard 1.6 version, 2.1 version can have more than one gmail account.

The only thing SE used from 2.1 was the kernal as I understand it.
[XPERIA X10 General] becknise:
So we will get 2.1 by december.
[XPERIA X10 General] mezo9090:
Late September.

sent from my x10i that is banging for a 2.1 upgrade. ...
[XPERIA X10 General] Contrarian:
Yeah, I'm a bit confused. If anything, Android should be developing their software to run more and not less efficiently. Qualcomm have already suggested their lower end processors are capable of running FROYO without a problem, so it would seem the shortcomings lie with the operating system.
[XPERIA X10 General] charmz2k2:
I just thought I would share this link with you guys...

The person who posted it is a software developer for Orange so would have the inside news :)

http://androidforums.com/groups/ora...-x10-x10-mini-x10-mini-pro-eclair-update.html

He's basically saying that Orange has said that the 2.1 update will be out in about a month..

the one for Orange is the same as the SE ROM but with a few tweaks from Orange :)

YAY!!
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
If you can produce proof of your made up lies, I will fly a hooker to your house with a GSM version of the Droid Incredible running Android 6.8 with a 17 megapixel camera, 1080p recording, 128GB of space and a 3.06 ghz Intel Core i3 processor.
[XPERIA X10 General] eazyrider:
Seriously is this forum only filled with idiotic teenagers?

To be fair I cant be arsed to go trawlling through all of the SE blogs but if I really am telling lies...

Why did a spokesman from SE announce on the SE blogs that their last spokesman made a mistake and announced that the hardware cant support it?

So do you want me to pm you my address so you can send the hooker you promised me?

Now jog on little boy and grow up! :D
[XPERIA X10 General] Anandc:
:D

no seriously you bought this phone cause you wanted multitouch? tell me what does multitouch exactly do and how does it help you? besides browsing :)
[XPERIA X10 General] Nankov:
I think that this thread should be closed there is no point in it, just people arguing like little kids. And the op has totaly disapeared.

Sent from my X10i using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[XPERIA X10 General] aodmisery:
i hope they fix the smileys issue when texting. i really hate that i have to put a smiley like this :-) instead of how every other phone does it like this : ) <-- i had to put a space between eyes and mouth or the website puts the smiley
[XPERIA X10 General] applebook:
Seeing as how most Android smartphones on the market don't really have true multi-touch panels yet still have it implemented by software (Nexus One), I see no reason why a custom X10 ROM wouldn't have reasonable success with MT. That being said, MT is really only useful for gaming and web browsing (which is supported on Dolphin's HD browser, pinch to zoom).
[XPERIA X10 General] :
That comment made me laugh! But I WANT IT! :D
[XPERIA X10 General] zyexx:
Still nothing new....sigh
[XPERIA X10 General] saltorio:
I know I shouldn't feed the trolls, but...

That's interesting. That's the first I have heard of such a claim... and I surf this forum daily and have pretty much every major android and mobile blog on my Twitter feed (which I unfortunately read pretty religiously). I'd really like to see a link to this retraction. Honestly.

Prior to the X10 coming out, I was pretty vocal in how pissed off I was about SE's flip-flop over multi-touch, but eventually moved on on the issue after a number of SE reps (including their marketing manager) set the issue straight in stating MT was not something the X10 hardware was capable of.
[XPERIA X10 General] akshaysuri2000:
call volume

sony should do something about low call volume.............:mad::mad::mad:

and about multitouch for playing games

please sony do something about it because we trust you........
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
Mods, I ask of you a VERY LARGE favor.

When idiotic posts like this are posted, delete them. For the love of everything that is holy, please delete them. This forum has become a place of whining instead of a place of knowledge.

To the poster, it has been said SEVERAL times by MULTIPLE people at SE that the phone DOES NOT HAVE MULTITOUCH. The issue has been cleared up, months ago. If it means so much to you,

WHY DID YOU BUY THE X10?!?!

It's been known that the phone DOES NOT HAVE MULTITOUCH. ANY amount of research could have told you that. Why did you buy it then complain about a feature

IT DOESN'T HAVE?!

Holy crap this forum is just one giant trollfest.
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
@iead1.. + 1 from me.. Getting bored of reading the same crappy questions from people who can't be bothered to search.
[XPERIA X10 General] Tjotte:
Hehe *snapp*.. nah but i can relate to the above post totally! I knew before the phone even hit the markets it lacked multitouch, but that does not bother me, it's a fun feature but not necessary. I'm hoping SE will implement onetouch zoom instead, sometime soon.
[XPERIA X10 General] Sixpence1:
I honestly don't get the fascination with multi-touch. For browsing, I think the plus and minus buttons are much better as you don't need two hands to use as you would with the pinch to zoom (yeh, you probably could do it with one, but it would be awkward).

And does it really add that much to gaming? If you want a great portable gaming experience, buy a PSP!

The only thing I'd really like Sony to implement is PS3 Remote Play. There was some talk about it, but I didn't buy the X10 expecting to get it.
[XPERIA X10 General] Anandc:
Hey any news on 2.1 update?

BTW Where is OP?
[XPERIA X10 General] Anandc:
don't be so serious in life before you come to know you die out of heart attack :D
[XPERIA X10 General] spark001uk:
Nope, rang SE earlier, they gave their usual speech and nothing else. Q3 is all they know.

I think OP might have been arrested and taken away for interrogation by some Sony henchmen about having a secret stolen rom!! :)
[XPERIA X10 General] AngelHeart:
I don't know about multitouch, but very low in-call volume is a BIG problem. SE should be ashamed of delivering of phone unproper to its main purpose - CALLING !

Furthermore, multitouch is not only meant for browsing. It is especially useful for gaming ! No multitouch, but I don't give a damn though.

SE : fix the problem with in-call volume.
[XPERIA X10 General] bushbox browser:
On November 5th 2009 from SE blog:

"* Will it have multi-touch in future updates?

Xperia X10 has a capacitive screen. It does not support multi-touch functionality at launch, but is considered for the future."

I bought the X10 before they said it had no MT too, so it does irritate me when people say to others, why did you buy it knowing it didn't do MT, from that post I assumed that it was to do with using 1.6, but the hardware was capable.

Having said that I don't care about MT so didn't and doesn't bother me, for some others though I could imagine they feel a little short changed.

For me the 1.6 issue is a much bigger one.

Not having a dig at anyone by the way just pointing out what it said on the SE blog and the reason some people feel strongly about this issue.