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[Droid Incredible General] gmonox:
Both types of backups are easy to restore, for nandroid you just go into recovery, same place as you backed it up but click Restore and just wait for it. For titanium, go into backup/restore, batch, and there's an option to restore apps, apps+data, and apps+system data I think. If you have the paid version, the apps will all install on their own, but if not I don't think they will.

Are you still on a netbook or can you use a pc? Might be easier if your java's out of date and whatnot to just use a pc, I'm no expert on netbooks but I'd imagine they're stripped down a lot
[Droid Incredible General] Duckbone Apps:
Just keep in mind that you need a functioning phone in order to use Titanium. If you mess something up while in adb and the phone will not boot, Titanium is useless. A nandroid however will restore you back exactly how you were before messing around in adb even if the os will not boot.
[Droid Incredible General] IShootPixels:
Well then I'm glad I did the Nandroid BU! Bsically then I guess that because I backed up with Ti first and then with Nandroid, the Nandroid created a back up of my Ti backup. If so I think I just set a record for redundancy.

As for using a netbook, I don't have a choice. I run everything off of my Macbook, or did until now. The only Windows based item in the house aside from my Xboxes is my wife's netbook. I've updated the Java and begun the setup process. I had to do as the thread said and force the http and then go into the available packages and I'm DLing and installing them all because I was afriad that if I didn't I'd find that I needed one I hadn't installed. I'm guessing that since I'm already rooted (and I'm hoping) that once I'm done installing all of these packages that that should be it except for step #4 and #5.

1. Run SDK Setup.exe

2. If it gives you any error go to settings and click on "Force http//....."

3. Select usb driver package, let it download and install

4. Some say the below step is not needed, but I did this so I'm posting it

Go to tools folder, and edit "android_winusb.inf" (you can do this by opening it via wordpad). Add the following at the end of the [Google.NTx86] and [Google.NTamd64] blocks:

;HTC Incredible

%SingleAdbInterface% = USB_Install, USB\VID_0BB4&PID_0C9E

%CompositeAdbInterface% = USB_Install, USB\VID_0BB4&PID_0C9E&MI_01

%SingleBootLoaderInterface% = USB_Install, USB\VID_0BB4&PID_0C94

Save the file and exit.

5). Plug your phone into PC, when windows asks to install drivers for new found hardware, point the New Hardware Found wizaed to android_winusb.inf that you just edited.
[Droid Incredible General] IShootPixels:
I'd also like to add that this is the YouTube video that started this mess. I followed his tutorial on rooting the phone and although the sound was low it was pretty spot on minus one or two things he failed to mention.

However, after watching this video I thought it would be just as easy to install the boot animation as it was to root the phone. Seems the bigger task would be rooting rather than a boot animation. In the hours that you guys have helped me I've learn that this boot video lacks a TRUCK LOAD of information and assumes that the person watching it isn't a noob. Dont' most people that watch tutorial videos watch them because they have no idea what they're doing? I realize now that there's a ton o' stuff missing from it. I still want the animation and sound though. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ju9lpH7_4g&feature=channel
[Droid Incredible General] Duckbone Apps:
Titanium stores backups on your SD card. Nandroid does not backup your SD card, but you are in good shape. Keep us posted.
[Droid Incredible General] gmonox:
I'm not sure if step 4 is required, I'm on win7 64bit and I don't recall doing it, but I guess it couldn't hurt. Also, I don't think nandroid backs up your titanium backup -- Ti backup is stored on your SD card
[Droid Incredible General] Duckbone Apps:
Root is much more difficult than boot animation, but the incredibly talented folks on the unrevoked team put together the one-click tool that made it so easy. Back when I rooted my Dinc it was much more difficult. Just keep at it and you will get it.
[Droid Incredible General] IShootPixels:
Let me just say that YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME!

One droid boot animation and sound installed just like in the video, although not nearly as easy as said video makes it out to be.

I renamed the file "android sdk windows" file to just "sdk" and entered it in that way and it worked great.

Next up, bloatware or a ROM maybe, although I think I may need to wait a few hours before tackling that because i don't even have a ROM manager yet and haven't begun to look into individual ROMs. Maybe I'll grab a beer and lower my stress levels first too.

Again, BIG Thanks to you guys. Even though I don't mind being treated like the ignorant noob I am when it comes to this stuff, you guys were great and I really appreciate it.
[Droid Incredible General] Duckbone Apps:
That's awesome! Congrats. We are all noobs at some point. On a precautionary note, if you decide to update the radio with with the leaked OTA, be very careful not to install a second time over itself. Several people have done this and completely bricked their phones.
[Droid Incredible General] IShootPixels:
A few questions regarding OTAs now that you mention it.

1) Is there a way to block OTAs now that I'm rooted?

2) My current software is version 1.22.605.2 . According to a YouTube video by the same guy I mentioned earlier, he says I have to downgrade and basically wipe my phone of root, then upgrade to an intermediate version and then to the leaked Froyo. Is that right? If so, maybe I don't want Froyo although I want the 720p video.

3) If I find a ROM that I like should I upgrade to Froyo for the 720p video first, and then re-root (if I have to as mentioned above) and then apply the new ROM? What I'm getting at is what are the chances that the ROMs allow for 720p video recording?

4) What ROM do you use? Are the real differences in performance or is there way more to it than that? Like I mentioned earlier, everything I've read says that each ROM has a kernal that usually works best for it, is that true?

I've read all of this stuff on the net about rooting, ROMs, kernals, etc. etc. and it's all beginning to run together. I saw this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qprtSa0Jxiw&playnext=1&videos=BPboNrV0PyQ

Basically this is what I'm looking for from my phone. This kind of power and the ability to manage the power etc.. I run a Twitter app all day, and open Facebook maybe once a day. I make almost no calls on it and I'm lucky if I get halfway through the day before I need to charge it. I do the trick every night with plugging it in, waiting for the green light, unplugging/replugging it in etc.. My phone just doesn't last long nor does it seem as fast as the one in the video, and he's running a live wallpaper. I figure that by removing bloat it'll look cleaner and I'd like to be able to manage the power/performance better. Oh, and I already have the Nintendo emulators so I don't care about those. LOL.
[Droid Incredible General] Duckbone Apps:
1. Not that I am aware of.

2. Go to settings>about phone>software information --- It should say you already have version 2.1 update 1. Let me know! It depends on what version of PB31.img (there are 2 floating around) you use on whether or not you will have to do the "intermediate" update. One version of PB31.img already has that update rolled up in it. You will have to unroot, apply OTA, reroot, install Froyo.

3. The 720p comes from the leaked OTA (upgrades radio). You do not need Froyo to get it, just the OTA (which is what will brick you if applied over itself). Only place to get 720p is from the leaked OTA, not roms. Some Roms however are designed to work without the OTA, and some are designed to work with the OTA.

4. I am using the Froyo OTA. The performance is significantly better. Froyo will increase you benchmarking score in Linpack from around 6-8 all the way up to 38-40. Most roms come with a kernel that is suited for them. Changing kernels can screw stuff up, like 720p recording.

A couple of things you can do for performance. The largest gain to be made is from installing Froyo-- It is that fast! You can also flash an overclocked kernel. Removing bloat (from my experiences) does not really give any significant performance gains.
[Droid Incredible General] IShootPixels:
Okay. I have firmware ver. 2.1 update 1

If I update using the leak, how do I insure that the phone doesn't receive an update via Verizon OTA? The reason I ask is that I shut my phone completely off every night, one morning with my old Blackberry Storm, I turned it on and BAM! got hit with an update that gave me all kinds of useless crap that I didn't want. I didn't have a choice, it was just there. Will that happen with this phone?

With that said, let's go with the assumption that I'm not going to change to a third party ROM like Jager or something although I see that they appear to have a ROM that works with Froyo on Incredibleroms, what's next?
[Droid Incredible General] Duckbone Apps:
So far, Verizon has not sent any updates that install automatically. You get a notification asking if you would like to install. Secondly, from what I understand (I am in no way positive) you would not be able to update anyhow if you are rooted. This is why you have to unroot in order to install the leaked OTA.

There are a couple of roms that are Froyo (Skyraider, CM6, and the latest leaked Froyo). All of these will need you to first install the leaked OTA radio update. If you do not wish to use a custom rom, then there is not a lot of benefits of root. There are some apps that are specifically for rooted users (WifiTether, Incredilight, Titanium, etc.) but the Nand on our phone does not yet have a permanently unlocked nand, which means there are not as many programs for the rooted Dinc as there are for other phones. If you decide to install leaked OTA for 720p recording, I would be glad to walk you through the process.
[Droid Incredible General] IShootPixels:
I'm using tether, and have Incredilight and TI backup already. I've heard great things about Cyanogen and I'm guessing it's one of the most popular as far as ROMs go. I just didn't know if there was a stable version yet.

That said, I thought I read that Google apps can be in the ROM. Does that mean I lose access to things like my Calender and Gmail? Also what about things like maps, earth, sky and the new "places" app?

Right now I have the phone set up with the new boot animation that I just added, and Clean Slate. I've changed that wallpaper but I'm not using widgets, just icons. Can I do the same things when using a ROM? Sorry, but I'm not sure what the advantages to custom ROMs actually are. They all seem to change the lock screen and and the buttons on the bottom of the phone (where is says phone and has the button for adding to the home screen and menu button). I assume they're removing the bloat too but I'm not sure.
[Droid Incredible General] Duckbone Apps:
Google wanted the developers to quit packaging Google apps with their roms, but you can install them separately (Rom Manager from the Android Market is awesome for this). You can still have calendar, gmail, maps, etc.

Cyanogen - This rom is Vanilla Froyo (Which means they have removed all of the Sense items that HTC put on the Incredible). It is the stock operating system that Google made with Cyanogen's enhancements. Cyanongen's roms are usually regarded as the Gold Standard. I was using this before the leaked Froyo came out. Camera works in this rom at 8 mp, but camcorder does not.

SkyRaider - This is a Froyo rom that has not removed the Sense items from HTC. I have also tried this one. Using this and using the leaked Froyo will be relatively the same.

Leaked Froyo - This is what I am using now. It is very fast and has the appearance of what you currently are using. There are a few enhancements in this over what you have now, but basically the advantage of this is speed.

These are other roms out there that are bascially the same as these, and there are a few that alter the theme (colors, etc).

CM6 is very nice if you do not require Sense, but camcorder is currently broken.

SkyRaider was the way to go if you like having Sense, until the leaked the Froyo OTA came out and then I switched.
[Droid Incredible General] IShootPixels:
Great breakdown for me, thanks. So, what do I need to do at this point to get Froyo 2.2 on this beast?
[Droid Incredible General] Duckbone Apps:
Edit: Scratch that, you have not installed OTA yet.
[Droid Incredible General] Kipphh:
I remember the feeling man look me up if you need help Ill see what I can help you with
[Droid Incredible General] Duckbone Apps:
Download this file and put it on the root of your SD card.....http://www.mediafire.com/?yum40znzwmmmtyl

Shutdown phone. Once phone is off hold down on volume down key and then power button (keep holding down on both until screen comes on). Then follow this video from the 6 minute mark. The previous 6 minutes of the video he was explaining additional steps that must be taken if you have already installed the OTA update, which you have not, so just start following along at the step he is in at the 6 minute mark. DO NOT PULL BATTERY OR INTERRUPT THIS PROCESS AT ANY TIME Another video of unrooting is located here http://androidforums.com/all-things...eo-howto-unroot-incredible-downgrading-2.html
[Droid Incredible General] IShootPixels:
Okay, done. Got a little hairy there when he ripped out the battery and usb cable. I was caught off guard but it seems to be back to original spec. Do I have to activate this phone like I did when I first got it by calling a certain number or something? I vaguely remember having to do that.

I'm ready for the next.

EDIT: In the first video it doesn't mention going and checking for updates like it does in the second video. I just checked and it doesn't need any updates. baseband is 1.00.03.04.06 software 1.22.605.2 (which is different from what I had I think) and firmware is still 2.1-update1
[Droid Incredible General] Duckbone Apps:
Okay good job. I believe that version of PB31 was the 2.1 update 1 (there are 2 of them floating around, one with the update and one without). Check the version to make sure you have 2.1 update 1 ....... Settings> about phone> software information.

If you have update 1 then we will install the leaked OTA. Instructions and the file needed can be found here ..... http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=726791 Remember, do not install this twice!!! It takes a little longer than you would think and the screen goes black and then comes back on a few times. Some people have gotten impatient when screen went off and pulled battery. Do not do that. If you have any questions, let me know.
[Droid Incredible General] IShootPixels:
So in that thread am I renaming the dinc-ota. zip to update.zip and not unpacking but letting the phone unpack it?
[Droid Incredible General] Duckbone Apps:
Exactly. Rename it update. If you are using a windows computer you do not need to add the .zip part. That is just the extension and will be added by Windows. No need to unzip or anything. Just rename and put on root of SD card. Go to stock recovery, apply update.zip
[Droid Incredible General] IShootPixels:
I copied to the SD, turned off phone, started up while pressing down volume button to get into recovery and it started loading the PB31img file again.

EDIT: So I let it update and do it's thing. Everything looks the same now that it's rebooted.
[Droid Incredible General] IShootPixels:
It won't let me go into Stock Recovery. It keeps loading the PB31 file everytime I try to go into recovery.
[Droid Incredible General] Duckbone Apps:
When you say "let it do it's thing", do you mean you did the PB31 again, or the udpate.zip. Look in Settings>about phone>Software and see what baseband version you have. If it is 1. something than you did not do the udpate.zip. If it is 2. something than it is done. If you did not do the udpate.zip, then you can either delete PB31 from SD card or rename it so that it does not bother you while doing update.zip. Very important to verify baseband first and make sure update.zip did not run.
[Droid Incredible General] IShootPixels:
Yeah each time I try to go into Recovery by pressing power and holding down volume, it opens up and launches right into loading the PB31 file. It never lets me even get into recovery.

Basband is still 1.00.03.04.06

I'll delete the PB31 file from the SD and try it again.

EDIT: F**K! Got into recovery and selected it. Now a pic of the phone come up on the screen with a red triangle and ! in it.
[Droid Incredible General] Duckbone Apps:
That is okay, hit volume up and power at same time
[Droid Incredible General] Duckbone Apps:
I sent you a private message, check it.
[Droid Incredible General] IShootPixels:
OMFG! I thought I was hosed. I think my heart stopped and was fully prepared to start drinking HEAVILY.

Okay, it said Can't open cache/recovery/command but now it's installing from the SD card it appears.
[Droid Incredible General] Duckbone Apps:
Lol, you are fine. Did you check the private message?
[Droid Incredible General] IShootPixels:
Ok. This is what I have.

Firmware 2.1-update1

Baseband 2.05.00.06.11

software 1.36.605.0

I still have the next step to copy the payload update over to the SD, but I did get a new boot animation already so something is happening that isn't giving me a heart attack.
[Droid Incredible General] Duckbone Apps:
I would not bother with the payload. You can now just run unrevoked3 again to root, just like you did the first time.
[Droid Incredible General] IShootPixels:
Damn that PM is funnier than you could imagine.
[Droid Incredible General] Duckbone Apps:
Lol. Okay no phone call. Just run the unrevoked3 to get root and we will proceed from there.
[Droid Incredible General] IShootPixels:
Ok, problem. I had already copied over the payload file to the SD card and was beginning to install it before seeing your last post. I went into recovery got the same red triangle BS, pressed up and stuff to get to the menu. The problem is that it doesn't show the payload zip file. It still says "apply sdcard:update.zip". That's the file I just installed. I dont want to install it again. Should I have deleted it before adding the payload zip file? Also, how do I get out of this blue menu without doing anything?

EDIT: One of the options is to Reboot system now. Should I just choose that? I don't want to wipe anything or install the update.zip.
[Droid Incredible General] Duckbone Apps:
Reboot now
[Droid Incredible General] Duckbone Apps:
Go ahead and delete the update.zip now so that there are no mistakes.
[Droid Incredible General] IShootPixels:
Ok. Done. Re-rooted. Now a question. Since I created a Titanium backup before it should still be on my SD card. should I reload it to get back all of my apps and contacts etc or will it screw something up? If I do load the back up I'm assuming I should then do another Nandroid back up as well.
[Droid Incredible General] Duckbone Apps:
You should be able to restore from Titanium at this point, because you are still using 2.1 just like before the OTA. If you are going to install Froyo, then restore from Titanium is not recommended due to it being 2.2. I would definitely do a nandroid before going to 2.2, so that I could easily revert if I did not like it or had a problem.
[Droid Incredible General] IShootPixels:
Ok, if I restore the Ti backup can I then go for 2.2 and still keep my apps and contacts or am I going to lose them once I go to Froyo?
[Droid Incredible General] Duckbone Apps:
You will need to do a full wipe to go to Froyo, so all apps will be lost. Contacts will be synced with Google if you have set up an account and will automatically sync back with Froyo.
[Droid Incredible General] IShootPixels:
ALright, the apps I can redownload I guess from marketplace. Will I at least be able to use backup assistant after going to Froyo? I had the sync active so it was backing up my contacts. If I can still access it after Froyo then cool.
[Droid Incredible General] Duckbone Apps:
I do not use the Verizon Backup Assitant, but since it is a verizon app, I would think there would not be a problem. I also think it would be okay to backup your contacts in Titanium and then restore in Froyo, since restoring contacts would only be data and not system files.
[Droid Incredible General] IShootPixels:
Okay, cool. I'll risk it if you can point me to how to DL Froyo.
[Droid Incredible General] Duckbone Apps:
You will have to make a desicion on which one you want to try. If you want SkyRaider, go here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=722481 and download v2.0.1

For the leaked Froyo go here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=737400
[Droid Incredible General] IShootPixels:
OMG. I just went through all of this. My head is going to explode.
[Droid Incredible General] Duckbone Apps:
Ummm.... Not sure what u are referring to. This is simple. Clarify?
[Droid Incredible General] gmonox:
I used Titanium to backup my apps pre-2.2 and restore them after installing Cyanogenmod 6, and I haven't had a problem yet. I believe the problem starts when you restore system data, but if you don't do that you'll probably be okay.
[Droid Incredible General] IShootPixels:
I was looking at the Froyo thread and reading the steps for rooted phones. It's everything I just went through. I see that at the bottom it just says wipe and apply the ROM...

9. Now you can go ahead and do a Full Wipe then install the Stock Froyo rom.

Maybe I'm tired since I've been up since 4 this morning, but do I just need to copy the ROM zip to the SD card or something else.
[Droid Incredible General] Duckbone Apps:
Download the rom here http://www.mediafire.com/?3o841abpypqu0rc and put it on your SD card (you can even download it from the phone if you like). Boot into recovery (hold volume down and power until screen comes on). Wait about 10 seconds for it to check for PB31 (green lettering will scroll down screen) and then hit volume down to highlight recovery and then power to select. Once in recovery use volume button to scroll down and wipe data, optical joystick to select. Then select install zip from sdcard. Navigate to where you saved the rom and install.

Edit: From the Froyo thread ........

What version am I running?

Go to Settings > About phone > Software information > Baseband version

If its 2.05.00.06.11 then you can ignore the rest of these instructions and just flash the ROM.

If its 1.00.03.04.06 then you need to update your radio.
[Droid Incredible General] IShootPixels:
Installing the ROM now. I really want to say thanks for wasting your entire day helping me out. I can't believe you hung with my dumb ass this long. I'm so tired I can't even think straight.

I can't believe that somewhere about 4 o'clock I was thinking about all of the bloated apps I wanted to delete. That's SO not happening at this point. I think I saw a thread on here that had directions for it but I'm in no position to do it.

Thanks again. You have no idea how much I appreciate it. On the plus side, if someone ever wants to root and upgrade their Incredible, this is probably the most comprehensive thread on the planet.
[Droid Incredible General] Duckbone Apps:
Glad to help. If you have any problems let me know. I have been running this rom since it came out (which was only yesterday) and have been very happy with it. Some users have reported some issues that you can read about here .... http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=738634