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[Vibrant Accessories] EugeneKay:
The Samsung cable has an overly-large HDMI plug-end. My guess puts a small blob of conversion circuitry inside there, drawing power either via the USB or by vampiring off of the HDMI. (The HDMI spec has a +5V line, but that's only for Sources, whereas this is a Destination. It may or may not have power, I haven't looked that deep into the tech docs).

Bandwidth isn't an issue - 800x480 can be pumped over USB2.0, which is what we're looking at here.

Plus, the thing apparently exists. So it likely works.
[Vibrant Accessories] Maverick777:
Assuming this HDMI cable is the real deal, it should be able to output 1080p which would be HUGE news. Although I'm skeptical like everyone else whether or not the microUSB connection can really handle this kind of data.

The cable itself has a larger end because it has a microUSB plug in it to allow the phone to charge while it's connected to the TV. It's pure speculation if there's any advanced circuitry in there to assist with outputting video data.
[Vibrant Accessories] setzer715:
I agree about the size of the connector housing and I was thinking the same thing but then retracted that thought because I wasn't sure if it was quite big enough to do that type of conversion.

I see no point in having an HDMI cable if we're limited to 800x480. Why not just stick with the Composite cable in the headphone jack? HDMI would insinuate that you can play your 720P videos over it on a High Def TV.
[Vibrant Accessories] eesperan:
800x480p digital would look a decent amount better than 480i over composite, so it wouldn't be the worst thing.

I'm wondering about that port on the side of the HDMI end, though - Micro USB power maybe?
[Vibrant Accessories] Dbryon:
goto monoprice.com
[Vibrant Accessories] DKYang:
and wait till who knows when. There finished the sentence for you. :)
[Vibrant Accessories] fit333:
ebay $50 is a little steep though
[Vibrant Accessories] AquaeAtrae:
Sadly, I found this seemingly official response suggesting we may not have the HDMI option for Vibrant / Captivate. Whether this is a hardware or software limitation (seems unlikely) is unknown.

"Unfortunately, the Captivate/Vibrant models do not support HDMI out."
[Vibrant Accessories] scrizz:
Since no one actually has the cable, we cannot be sure of anything.

:mad:
[Vibrant Accessories] rothariger:
yet...

in other places are telling that this function will arrive to the vibrant/captivate too..
[Vibrant Accessories] sfsilicon:
Funny that a whole bunch of Android sites have reported that it will work when the cable was announced. I was a bit skeptical when there was no official Samsung source that confirmed it. The tweet from Samsung indicates that this feature doesn't exist or is not enabled.

Saw a thread on xda where someone (non-Vibrant phone) had bought the cable from a non-Samsung source and using the tv-out option in the setting didn't enable a signal via the micro USB to HDMI out cable. That doesn't mean the HW isn't there, but some how the phone needs to know to route HDMI compatible signals through the USB port.

I posted earlier that the micro USB port didn't seem to have enough pins to support a true HDMi signal even if the micro HDMI port had a similar formfactor as the mini USB port. We will either need to wait for Samsung to enable it officially or someone needs to find a Samsung phone that works with the cable and uses Android and copy the code and try it. That assumes that the HW features are the same on both phones. Lots of assumptions.
[Vibrant Accessories] mafaesto:
Here's a stupid theory, is there any possibility that the usb on the phone is really 3.0? And they are just hiding it since it could possibly be enabled later in the 2.2 froyo update? Remember USB is backwards compatible, it's completely possible. Also I did notice the port on the side of the hdmi cord as well, I'm assuming its for power.

Then again, judging from Samsung's track record, I doubt they are this smart. (please don't flame, as always its just an opinion)
[Vibrant Accessories] scrizz:
no, USB 3 has more pins ;)
[Vibrant Accessories] DaSmittyman:
found this on samsungs twitter http://twitter.com/Samsungservice/status/20215650228
[Vibrant Accessories] scrizz:
yeah, that's been posted before.
[Vibrant Accessories] Demiurgic:
Seems unlikely to me that this cable will work for our phone but the Samsung WMG160 Wi-Fi HD streaming device was announced a couple months ago. That should allow for HD streaming though DLNA, or other devices like the Asus O!Play and WD TV should work as well. A media device would be more expensive but also way more convenient to hook up to the TV. So wait for this magical $50 cable that might work or go out today and buy a $80-$150 device that has way more functionality than a single use cable.
[Vibrant Accessories] rizzxx7:
this says its compatible and its available

http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=45400&cat=5051
[Vibrant Accessories] Demiurgic:
A few brave souls have gone through ebay and haven't been able to get them to work. It might just be a software issue tho. Just saying if you want to use your phone on an hdtv best bet is a wd tv or similar device. Besides we are all lazy do you want to get up from the couch and walk over to your phone to control it or do while still on the couch?
[Vibrant Accessories] scrizz:
that's also less portable and means you would have to chug along the box and it's respective cables if u go to a friends house

;)

no Thanks :rolleyes:

:cool:

it is a good device, but not good for mobility
[Vibrant Accessories] Demiurgic:
lol I usually carry around random cables with me to friends houses.:) If your friend has a PS3 your all good to go. I would love to see this cable coming out and work as much as anyone else; I'm just a little doubtful it will ever happen.
[Vibrant Accessories] Anderdroid:
Well I bought that. Got it today. It doesn't work. Got an email from them saying to send it back for a refund saying they don't support USA Galaxy S models :/ FAIL.

So sad... :'(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] themask2000:
pls. i am new to cooked rom, i want to develop a cooked rom, can any one give me a tutorial. Thanks very much
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] stylez:
Moved as not ROM Development check out chef central.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oneders65:
I am using EvilEris v3.0 (ROOTED). I am using aNetshare and I am able to connect my laptop to the hotspot. For some reason when I use my Verizion Touch Pro2 in GSM mode and try to connect to the same hotspot with the smartphone it does not find the connection and the connection does not find the phone. What am I doing wrong? I did search and could not find a solution.

TIA
[HD2 General] elpirruris:
i have cookies home tab and i seen better programs out there then cookies home tab. can anybody help me out on where can i find them or what
[HD2 General] Demon_man:
have you?:confused: WHERE let us all no pretty please???
[HD2 General] jdwrrzmm:
He might mean MaxSense.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=687153
[HD2 General] sumflipnol:
lol probably.

But, (to the OP) it's kinda hard to point you to a particular direction if we don't know what you're talking about.:rolleyes:;)
[Desire Accessories] cq.dude:
Can this be done? If I plug a USB dongle with A2DP capability into my car's stereo USB slot. And stream music to the dongle.. It's a bit technical 'cause I don't know what the car unit will see the dongle as.

I'm just day-dreaming .. :)
[Desire Accessories] mouth:
Dreaming.

Your car radio will only accept USB MSC (mass storage), ie. thumb drive.

You'll need to upgrade to a car radio with inbuilt b/tooth - you'll love it! :)
[Desire Accessories] cq.dude:
But I'm waiting to upgrade my car! ;) That's why I'm looking for a cheap solution. Saving cash possibly for a Z4 next year. Hehehe
[Vibrant General] ljv:
So this whole reception vs wrong bar display has really been bugging me. I decided to run a test . Took my son's Nuron to Target. Went to the back of the store and the bars dropped a little but stayed 3G the whole time. Took the sim card out and placed it back in my Vibrant standing in the same spot. Phone came up. 3G/Zero bars. After just a few seconds it switched to Edge.

What does this tell me? That the Vibrant is definitely weaker in the recption department. I'm on the fence whether on keeping it now. I have 2. Already swapped both of them out once just to make sure. All 4 phones are pretty bad in reception. My wife can't even get a 3g connection in her office and she sits by a window. Opinions?
[Vibrant General] temperbad:
My vibrant gets 3g in places my nexus dreamed of getting it wiithout the force 3g hack..

I'm happy with the reception. I do think it does lose some signal but not as much as the bars are leading. ..

But yea my n1 was worse in the 3g department in my opinion. ...
[Vibrant General] ljv:
Bars are definitely misleading. As a matter of fact, I'm not even concerned with the bars anymore. I'm concerned with maintaining a 3G connection and not swapping to Edge. I've been looking at the actual -dB via *#*#197328640#*#* and it's at around -105 plus/minus 5 when the bars go to zero.
[Vibrant General] MMcCraryNJ:
I really think it's just a software glitch. I've done this a few time with speed tests where I take my SIM out of the Vibrant and back into the G1, run some tests, then put it back into the Vibrant, and run some more tests. The Vibrant, while displaying 3-4 fewer bars, is about 3-4x faster than the G1.

So I take it for what it's worth. :D
[Vibrant General] Jon C:
The reception with the device is definitely a concern.

I live in the best 3G coverage area this city has to offer. I'm surrounded by HSPA+ antennas, and if I don't touch the device (and have a 'clear signal'), I can pull down 8 6Mbps, easily. As soon as I enter a building, I can barely stay connected to 3G, with speeds that fluctuate wildly (but are mostly in the sub 1Mbps range. Outside, things are a bit better, and that's understandable. But other 3G phones on the network (like the cheapo MyTouch 3G) do not skip a beat in their reception capabilities, when it comes to indoor performance.

I'll put it like this: There's something wrong in the world, when my bleeding-edge phone can't out-perform the MyTouch 3G in GPS, 3G reception or digital compass tests.

If a fix isn't issued, I'll be waiting for the HTC 'Vanguard / G1 Blaze / whatever'.
[Vibrant General] ljv:
I've done the whole speedtest thing with zero bars and speed doesn't really change. The problem is dropping a 3g and switching to edge. My wife can't even get 3g in her building and she's only about 3 miles from me. Granted she's on the 12th floor but does sit by a window. The thing that bugs me is, I'm paying for the speed but her phone is not getting it. I guess another way to look at it is she should be working anyway and not playing with her phone! :) But then again, if mama ain't happy, nobody is happy :(
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
I don't believe this one bit for the exact same reasons I outlined at the T-Mobile Forums

Pulling down 8Mbps on a phone that is hardware limited to 7.2Mbps, that's a first! We really need some proof that you "TOUCHING" your phone with one finger drops the signal to EDGE but when you don't touch the phone, you get an impossible 8Mbps... not only is this impossible in all respects, you've yet to prove any of it.

The myTouch 3G you spent so much time around has a Video Camera.
[Vibrant General] ljv:
heygrl/spottbby, is it me or are you basically accusing me of lying? If so, wth would I be lying for? Phone wise, I love it. GPS even works for me. I'm asking for opinions not accusations. I don't go around accusing people of lying and asking for proof that their GPS is broken.
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. I've spent time with the Nokia Nuron, and most importantly lots of time on T-Mobile's 3G network and there is NO way you held 3G with a Nokia Nuron during an active call next to a Vibrant on EDGE.

And actually, come back to us in 3 days so we can still see if your GPS is still locking in under 5 seconds.
[Vibrant General] ljv:
Wow, I hope you're an exception and not the rule of a Senior member. Anyway, I'm done with you. Thanks for being so helpful.
[Vibrant General] All~G1:
Sell your phone! No seriously, sell it... If you're not happy with it then do it now while you still can. You, I, we can speculate on what the issue is, there can be an update today, tomorrow, or never. If your that dissatisfied move on or please give it more time.

Catchin' the VIBE on the XDApp
[Vibrant General] Jon C:
Sorry for the typo, I meant to hit "6" and was in a rush and didn't check before I posted. My average for the USB modem is 8 (indoors), and my brain was sleepy at the keyboard and autopilot failed me. The T-Mobile twitter account was posting about 9Mbps speeds here (in Seattle), and I was posting on somewhere else for that, making the point that we have amazing HSPA+ coverage in the city. Too much internet for this sleepy person. Been awake since 4AM. Forgive me, internet. I am only human.

Phone: 6Mbps (until handled by flesh)

USB Modem: 8 (always)

Also, the MyTouch 3G doesn't belong to me, so I can't really just take her home for the night to make pointless internet videos to please someone who identifies themselves as 'heygrl'. If you want to blow the lid off of this conspiracy, you can mail me a video camera, which I will ship back to you once the video is complete. But that would be crazy, no?

Oh, I can't maintain this web of lies any longer!

Actually, you're right: It's all a conspiracy to troll you and your perfect phone that has no problems at all. I decided to come here, create a handle with my real name and location, just to give you **** and lie. My plan was to build up the illusion that I was just "some guy" experiencing problems with his device. I'm actually a sleeper cell for HTC, trying to give the Vibrant bad press, so that the upcoming HSPA+ device can overtake it in market share! And it would've worked too, had it not been for you rotten kids!

Or, maybe, you're just an asshole fanboy that fights every person on these forums who has a problem with their phone because they have nothing better to do than play a written game of 'Defender'?

Watch it, now: those landers can appear out of thin air!
[Vibrant General] sandstones:
My house is gets marginal reception and the Vibrant was consistently getting no bars, whereas my old Treo had been generally getting one.

When I complained to T-Mobile they said they had seen such problems and that I should activate the SIM card that came with the phone rather than continue to use my old SIM card. They did that, and things improved slightly - still not as good as the Treo, but it is getting one bar now and then, whereas it never did before changing to the new SIM card. As far as 3G at home, thank god for Wifi!

When out and about, the bad spots are still bad spots, but generally I'm getting 3G most places I go.
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
Lots of fluff with no delivery..

Because you don't have the means to get a video recorder, lets see some speedtest.net results showing your 3Mbps upload and ~35ms ping. I'll wait.

Anyone with half a brain can blow a hole through your "one finger, fully cased drop to EDGE" theory. Your flesh is NOT touching the phone itself, there is no way the phone can be affected by "One finger, in between silicone" theory.

Moreover, how are you doing this? On a glass table with the phone face down so you can see the bars drop as your finger touches the silicone case?

Maybe you've got the phone floating in mid air.

Did you just acquire that USB modem you have now? :confused:

Maybe you're just making it up as you go along. RETURN THE PHONE WHILE YOU STILL CAN.

Apparently, it has a CRIPPLING defect! One finger on the Vibrant encased with silicone (NOT a conductive material) will drop all 3G connectivity!

Why would you want to keep a phone that does this? Why do you still have a phone that behaves like this?

Especially since you proclaim it's not normal and not limited to just your Vibrant. "It's definitely a concern with this device"

I mean that myTouch 3G you barely have any access to doesn't display the same behavior!

...Oops..
[Vibrant General] Jon C:
You're not terribly bright, I suppose...

So, I have the phone, flat on a surface (say, a table). I hit "begin test" and off go the horses!

I lift the phone, with a single finger touching the 'hump', and the ping doubles, and data speeds are halved (if not worse).

Speeds aren't as amazing tonight, but it's just as well. Enjoy.

Flat on table. No finger.

Flat on table. A single finger lifting phone by the hump.

Don't ask me why the date isn't correct. It puzzles me as well.

Tests were performed minutes ago, in the exact same conditions, in the exact same spot. The only difference is that I touched the device during the second test.

Either way, you're still an asshole, and I'm still right. Conductive materials or not: it works every time.

Shall I provide more evidence for His Majesty, the Asshole? Or are we satisfied? Let me know.
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
Not only is this completely UN replicable on MY Vibrant, where are the record breaking upload/ping results?

No ~3Mbps upload. No ~35MS ping. You're still on 3G in the second test, NOT on EDGE..

There are only a few things that could be happening here.

Your 3G signal is not as strong as you think it is(this is the case), I will bet you any amount of money that both of those tests we're performed on completely different towers, and I know you DON'T know which towers have HSPA+ and which don't. T-Mobile did not and has not upgraded each and every 3G tower to HSPA+. And last but not least, your phone is DEFECTIVE!
[Vibrant General] humblehyper:
This antenna signal bar display problem just came up after the iPhone 4 fiasco LOL! I don't have any problem on mine. Keeps going strong! My iPhone 4 is collecting dust on my desk LOL!!!!!!!!!!
[Vibrant General] Jon C:
Yeah, we got lucky with this one, old chum! It usually drops below even that. You should see how much it degrades if it's held...*GASP*...in your palm! Oh my goodness! Such a concept! Holding a phone!

Like I said, but it bares repeating since you're hard of reading:

speeds weren't stellar tonight

. And hey, lookitthat! The date info is all whacky! Man, must be 'shopped! I can tell, because of the pixels!

Ping was a little higher than usual, and U/L wasn't as fast as it can be. Why? Don't know. Point still remains, and there's your proof of the problem. My old phone can't record video, but I can take a million photos for you, and make an animated .gif, just to be a ****.

I had this issue with the first Vibrant, and I have it with the second. Probably have it with the third.

Tell you what, though: I'll grab a third and report back. Maybe it is defective. Maybe there is a perfect Vibrant, like yours. But still, two 'defective' phones seems kind of unlikely. But we'll see! Oh, shall we ever see... :D

Cheers, old buddy.

P.S. I will drive to the actual tower and sit next to it, replicating this exact problem, if you'd like.
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
Your old phone can't record video? This is your first T-Mobile 3G phone and you've got no experience of your own prior?! Wow.. explains it all. You wouldn't be able to reproduce any speed drops next to a T-Mobile tower, no ma'am. Won't happen. There is no chance for the phone to switch to a neighboring cell site - without HSPA+ - to give you those non-HSPA+ speeds.

First of all you would have to verify that the tower is 3G is also upgraded to HSPA+ and then you would have to verify that it's the CID/tower for EVERY test. Your phone is switching between different towers. It's blantant
[Vibrant General] Jon C:
Do you just stay at home all day, writing "Stargate: Atlantis" fan fiction?
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
Don't worry, in about 20 minutes I'm going to blow the lid off of your cute dog and pony show. With facts - not some crap that shows a phone switching between two completely different towers.
[Vibrant General] temperbad:
No way next to a tower can you get this to drop a bar. I don't care if your laying on it. Lol

Your making the signal droppage way more of a issue than it really is. This gets way better reception than my n1 and tp2....

If I had that issue I would not have the phone or be in this forum....
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
Of course he is, he's a virgin to T-Mobile's 3G network. He has not a clue on how it works. He's not even aware of the fact that speeds will degrade with your signal and that there is no freaking way that any phone will go from 4 bars of 3G to EDGE if you live next to a 3G cell tower or close to one (LESS than half a mile away from the tower itself). If the phone goes from 4 bars to none when you pick it up that means you don't have a strong 3G signal in your house.

Let's not even touch on the fact that if the phone sees another 3G neighboring cell site that is stronger it will switch over to that site and everything is subject to change INCLUDING data speed.

No hand

Hand

SAME site

You=Fail

HSPA+ site

Phone handed off data session to the neighboring NON-HSPA+ site during upload test

DISMAL NON-HSPA+ site!

Another speed test on the same site, note the bar readout

All held in my hand.. what a shocker. Go get a refund.

To recap

Your phone is probably defective

Your 3G coverage at home isn't as strong as you think it is

ANY phone's data will slow down with the signal strength

Not all 3G towers have HSPA+

You don't monitor the CID's (cell site ID) you receive in your house.

If there is more than CID showing in your house at any given time, that means you have an overlapping signal from two different towers or more and that would be the cause of your inconsistent 3G speed, your phone is switching between those different towers.

The bar reading is wrong.

There is no possible way that the Nuron held a 3G signal during an active call next to a Vibrant on EDGE.

Let's assume that the antenna in the Vibrant sucks and it was stuck on EDGE while the Nuron had 3G.

For that to be the case, it would mean that the Nuron would have to be holding onto a weak 3G signal, not a strong one.

The network is setup to handoff calls when your 3G signal gets weak so if you're trying to tell me a 3G to 2G handoff didn't happen, you obviously weren't paying close enough attention to your phone. It's just not possible. It's designed to happen.
[Vibrant General] smolomiami:
samsung vibrant vs nokia n900

all i can say samsung vibrant sucks, in the area where i live is HSPA+ for last 2 months this is my downloads speeds from my nokia n900, on my samsung the best i got was 4mb download that was maximum, on my nokia you see on the picture my average download speeds is around 7mb and 8mb i got one more day left to return the samsung with nokia n900 i never had any problems with 3g connections never samsung is just 7.2Mbps the nokia up to 10.5Mbps
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
So why are you showing me speedtests that go past 10.2Mbps(this is the MAXIMUM for the N900)? Those are impossible to get, anything over 10.2Mbps is impossible, and even getting near the modems maximum data throughput is extremely hard to do.

You should try to *actually* download a file. I know the N900's browser is giving out inaccurate readings.
[Vibrant General] smolomiami:
i connect my nokia n900 with my laptop and this is my speeds when i have time i will make video special for you to trust me
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
like I said, you should actually try to download a file.

There are people posting 10Mbps+ speeds from an HD2. Are they accurate? NO! I asked one of them to download a file from an Apple server and they got a whopping 500KB/s
[Vibrant General] smolomiami:
yes but it depend from witch web page you downloading you not going to get some downloads speeds from every web page and the speedtest.net im using Evan to test my cable internet
[Vibrant General] temperbad:
If it sucks, sale it and go to another forum...