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[Droid X General] ksizzle9:
so i went to a vzw store and talked to a tech guy, and ill say that it is very rare that u find one that knows as much as us fellas on xda, im by no means a dev or anything but i do have a decent general knowledge. anyways, this guy seemed to know what he was talking aboput and he said it should def be out to the x in the next 2 weeks. he also said that the x was put into production actually 5 weeks early bc vzw needed something else bc of the huge shortages of the incredible. also he said that the phone was actually never intended to have 2.1 software and thats probably why its got several bugs. he said had they actually put it out when it was originally planned it would have been sold off the shelves with froyo. makes sense basically what i took from this is that 2.1 was a placeholder for the phone. with that said hopefully froyo will be far better and truly use the amaxing hardware that this phone has to the fullest of its potential. our benchmarks already blow the doors off of almost everything out there with graphics renderring being absolutely top notch. i mean i average about 1250 on quadrant and thats almost 3 times that of any snapdragon powered phones. with all of that gibberish said, this will soon be a phone to be dealt with. i made the switch from the DInc with the beleif that our great devs over here in the states WILL crack the bootloader issue. cant wait for some effen froyo.

Sent from my rooted\jailbroken LG Dare w/android 3.0 LOL
[Droid X General] ncdub:
LMAO!
[Droid X General] dr154:
Its been confirmed that a froyo should be coming with that date but not really specified on an exact date from a Verizon Wireless Technical Support Agent.

--Verizon Wireless A Wireless Sales Consultant
[Droid X General] Mayfairkid:
Anyone think its a coincidence that the DroidX is on back order and wont ship till around the 3rd from VZ? Betcha those come with FroYo......right about the time that the OTA happens...
[Droid X General] cbaty08:
Boy I sure hope so. My X has had a few hiccups waking up and they say my replacement will be here by wednesday at the latest!
[Droid X General] Joe92T:
Seems to be a looot of DINC hate in this thread, lol

IDK as far as a few of the top posts are concered, im scoring in the 1400s with my Froyo DINC on benchmarks and my Linpacks are in the 40s, so i dont beleive that above post that says the X is faster then the DINC even though its still running 2.1... we all know the X has suffered from random lag issues here and there for appariently no reason as well which would get old from day to day use

I was choosing between the DINC and the X myself at one point.. However the X is going to be ***substantially*** harder to root and flash a custom recovery image on, and therefore the freedom of the DINC won me over versus the locked down nature that the X is going to suffer from..

the DINC is already rooted with many custom roms and custom overclock kernals available, and soon we will have permanent nand unlock S-Off as well for a truly 100% unlocked device, i dont see that anywere in the X's future, certainly not anytime soon... basically because Motorola gave a big FU to rooters where as HTC has been a lot more lenient
[Droid X General] slow88lx:
The Droid X IS rooted.
[Droid X General] ksizzle9:
I don't have any dinc hate i own one. I just want people to realize that A) benchmarks not all that important.B) neither moto or verizon is going to send out a froyo update that actually slows ur phone. When i referred to benchmarks i meant with both phones on 2.1. And yes at that point the x is just that mu h faster. On quadrant and linpack. Also the laginess seems to be remedied by alternative launchers. Sorry if i sound like im hating on dinc. I do indeed love my dinc.

sent from Shawn Micheals...The heartbreak Kid
[Droid X General] Joe92T:
a GUI root is not nearly the same as having custom recovery access
[Droid X General] Zaphod-Beeblebrox:
Comes into a the Moto-X Forum blasting the phone and praising the DINC, and claims us to be DINC haters?

Please don't feed the troll.
[Droid X General] Joe92T:
I certainly didn't come in here out of the blue, the only reason I spoke up was because of the DINC bashing going on and thought I would defend it some by pointing out the things the DINC already has that's going to be another 6 months before the X gets the ability if it ever gets it at all

Sent from my HTC Incredible using the XDA App
[Droid X General] pima:
we all are tired of hearing about the DINC in the DROID X forums.

STOP DOING IT:mad:
[Droid X General] ksizzle9:
so back on track. Hopefully we will know something on froyo this week. my main concern here is mainly the bugs that we have on the X on the current ROM we are running. Hopefully moto got this one right. i came from a dinc and 2.1 with sense on it was a bit smoother. like ive stated before ive been told and do believe that eclair was a placeholder for the X. only time will tell. Here is to hoping that the entire Verizon Droid lineup gets froyo this week!!
[Droid X General] ritkit:
I hope they come out with the update soon. As long as it is before the 15th.
[Droid X General] Zaphod-Beeblebrox:
/Counterpoint_Reality_Check

The only official statement from Moto has been that the X would get Froyo 'Late Summer'. the First day of Fall is 9-22-10. By my reading, that puts us into mid September before we are at 'late summer'.

I hope the 'hype' around HTC rolling out there froyo, and Moto pushing out the droid release hasn't been mistaken to include the X.

/Counterpoint_Reality_Check
[Droid X General] mortymouse:
I am thinking mid September. I think we are at least 3-4 weeks out at the earliest.
[Droid X General] rolandroland:
Every person who bought an X likes it better than the incredible. That's why were in the X forum. The same is true for anyone who chooses an incredible now and stays in the incredible forum. The fact you are here shows your jealousy. Its ok.
[Droid X General] money226:
It's really non sense. Both devices are awesome. I know cuz I own both. It's really preference. We should appreciate all flag ship phones like these because they're all awesome. Just like we should appreciate the iphone for the simple fact it paved the way. I don't like apple but I don't hate because honestly android wouldn't be where it is today if not for the iphone. So take a different perspective people. Appreciate the advances of both and appreciate that you can hold either one how you want and not drop a call. :)
[Droid X General] ksizzle9:
Well for what its worth my sister who is a vzw tech rep told me today that the droid x froyo is supposedly rolling out starting today. I ask her is she was somehow confused between it and the D1 and she said that the document clearly says droid x. At this point i wont believe it until i see it. So here is my 17th post foe hoping we actually get us some freakin froyo this week. As i've said, its obviously ready foe the incredible(bc evo already has it), its obviously ready for moto(bc droid 2 has it and they actually have demo units in select vzw stores) so anyway. This will b my last post about froyo til im actually running it on my phone.

sent from Shawn Micheals...The heartbreak Kid
[Droid X General] ncdub:
For what its worth, when i go in to check for updates, its taking forever! I don't know if that means anything or not but usually it pops up within seconds telling me i am up to date....
[Droid X General] c0uRtJe$t3r:
It would be nice if she's right bro, here's hoping she is!!
[Droid X General] Zaphod-Beeblebrox:
Promise? :D
[Droid X General] xmunk:
vzw tech here nothing in systems saying update anytime soon sorry to burst your bubble
[Droid X General] ksizzle9:
Yes, i absolutely promise that is what she said, i even called* 611 to ask if they had any reason to believe that and i spoke with a man named ricardo and he said the same, with that said she is also not privy to any special info as she has only worked there 6 months. God i hope that this is true, i don't want to be the guy who cried wolf but i don't see why it wouldn't b ready considering htc has already baked sense with2.2 into the evo. Guys if u don't pray, start. Ill b calling tech support 3 or 4 more times today just to see if i can get the same answer. But if froyo is rolling im ready to see some screenies.

Edit: saw where the guy above said nothing in system, could u look into it and see why they might think that it is rolling? Or will b? I have no reason to lie or make this up so im open to anything i just don't know why they tech rep guy i spoke with would say the same

sent from Shawn Micheals...The heartbreak Kid
[Droid X General] xmunk:
I'm not saying your not being truthful. 611 is where I work I'm in tier 2 tech support ive been here for 3 years. Updates generally show in our systems one week before release. As of right now only update showing up is the one from july. There is no official date in the system. Several rumor sites say august 6 so more than likely that's where its coming from.
[Droid X General] tankyard:
Aww man...I prayed this morning for world peace, an end to hunger, and health and prosperity for all. But damn it, I forgot to pray for FROYO :(

LOL...just couldn't resist a stab at that one.
[Droid X General] Zaphod-Beeblebrox:
No No. I meant do you promise that that's the last post you'll make about Froyo :D

Guess we know the answer.
[Droid X General] ksizzle9:
I do indeed promise. No more fro-u-know talk. Done.

sent from Shawn Micheals...The heartbreak Kid
[G1 Apps and Games] frankencat:
Anybody else notice this? It used to run fine but after the last couple of updates it is just crawling. I only have about 10 msgs.
[G1 Apps and Games] NguyenHuu:
itll depend on your phone, how much memory it has left on it, and other factors. had to say why an app slows down over time. i have nexus one, with plrenty of memory and it always run quick. there are a lot of features on it and each update seems to be more towards catering new gen phones. I see you have a G1/mytouch in your sig? over time apps will move away from g1/mytouch unfortunately.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] j4mm3r:
Good news guys!

Jerpelea announced the eminent release of Cyanogen RC2 for the X10.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=7370940&postcount=91

So to keep the dev only thread clean, please post your questions, problems or comments here.

Update 2010-07-28:
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] urs74:
Great news and great work by the devs!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] instigator008:
I think that this release will be internal i.e. devs only. We never got RC1 so why should we expect RC2?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Bin4ry:
you got that wrong guys :)

Froyo is ready in RC2 for X10 this is not equal to : "the bootloader is finally hacked"

So stay calm please :)

Regards

Bin4ry
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Nankov:
Man i got excited for a minute there. Looks like back to waiting.

Sent from my X10i using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] rico761028:
Damn it! :p
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] urs74:
Still good news that it'll be ready for when it does get hacked.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Nimche:
no more wet dreams.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] cvchetan:
ill stick it once it gets useful fr all...
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] arj154:
its nice to see progress at least, I thought they hit a brick wall a couple days ago as they stopped posting in the dev thread. It may be a while till we see a bootloader hack thats friendly for us but its hard to determine since we're not devs. As I understand it, the actual ROM is partly ready but it'll have a number of bugs etc still and only devs who can actually load it on through manual code will be able to test it out I think. It may be that its actually just a virtual rom to be loaded onto the SDK under the same conditions as the x10 to be tested by the developers. I THINK. As I said I'm not a developer so take my words with a huge grain of salt because I might be completely wrong.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] irkkso:
PLS Can we get a little more detailed information.

PLS Can we get a little more detailed information.

If the RC2 will be ready tomorrow then it means that RC1 was launched on the device?:)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] hoss_n2:
what is the meaning of rc1 and rc2
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] OM3G4:
RC = Release Candidate
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] MarylandCookie:
No no no... you got it all wrong.

RC2 is the latest release of CyanogenMod and work has been carried out on this to "Port" it over to the x10. There wasnt any point in working on RC1 if CM RC2 was out.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] thor2002ro:
rc = release candidate

a software enters rc usually after testing phase(alpha-beta-etc...)....
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] j4mm3r:
So Jerpelea made a edit on the post... which is something pretty much expected as the bootloader is not cracked. So my guess is that this is going to use the spl loader module to boot into the CM kernel which has been ported for X10? Just a guess...
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Vilam:
Can somebody explain to people like me who are new on android what does the cyanogen mod, is it just a firmware ?

What is called "kernel" in android and is it "modable" and if yes, why would it be ?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Vilam:
Thank you very much for this clear explaination ! :)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] aget1:
Please let me explain in newbie wordings. This is for ppl who can't understand what's going on at all.

1. A firmware likes an OS, if not exactly is. Windows, Linux, DOS, OS X are all OS. In android phone, there is merely one OS, which is Android.

2. Android is Linux.

3. Linux has a kernel, which is the main program. Without this, your machine can't run. On top of kernel, there is other software (movie player/web browser). Kernel + other software = distro (distribution).

4. Windows has different distro like Home, Professional, Ultimate... Linux has also different distro, so does android. One of them is CyanogenMod. The other could be Xperia X10 original.

5. Android is open source, so everyone can mod it. But that does also means someone can remove functions from it, one of them is Sony Ericsson, which locks your Xperia X10 for professional use.

6. While it is easy for us to upgrade Windows XP to Windows 7. It is difficult to install OS X from Windows XP. This is the same case for Android, it is easy to upgrade our Xperia X10, but it is not that easy to install CyanogenMod. There are honorable person working on this issue.

7. Why CyanogenMod? Because it is faster or it does not lock function like original Sony distro.

8. Just like installing OS X on regular PC, installing CyanogenMod may brick your machine. Much worse, Sony will definitely don't get your X10 repaired. So think if you need that extra function.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] proyaz:
Custom Rom Development - Discussion (Non-Dev)

Discussions related to the Custom Rom Development can be done here so as to keep the Development thread clean.

Development thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=726813

Current update:

cyanogen rc2 for x10 build 00005 has arrived but cannot be flashed as per now.

with actual state of spl it boots then crashes

you can play a lil with the new kernel included into package

build 0005

http://hotfile.com/dl/57983756/408a452/0005.rar.html

-jerpelea
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] proyaz:
and I request the developers to give us the updates in layman's terms whenever possible. :)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Phantasm4489:
So how do we use this? I'm a pretty technical person myself who has been involved in various reverse engineering projects in the past and have a generally good understanding of technical stuff but i havent got a clue how to use this.

Much of the discussion in the dev thread has been above my level of understanding because i'm relatively new to android.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] wingz85:
Dont think we can use it on our phones until the Bootloader is cracked :( but you can open it up and have a poke around.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] rico761028:
Edit: Thank you forum mods!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Phantasm4489:
I assumed when it was stated that we cant flash it that there was some other way of booting it eg a loader of some description that "boots" into it.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] ixemun:
would be better if you post extra posts as reservations for future updates
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] chris_knows:
Either bin4ry or biktor_gj said (can't remember who it was or where they said it) that they can boot it WITHOUT the radios. If they try booting with radio, it crashes.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Phantasm4489:
Yes, I read that too. I was hoping to learn how to do that (using splboot?) so I could at least have a bit of a play with it.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Mobzter:
It was bin4ry lol soo what's exactly in this file?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Phantasm4489:
files in the archive are:

boot.img - 2.3mb

clean_steps.mk - 8k

firmware_error.565 - 768k

firmware_install.565 - 768k

installed-files.txt - 36k

kernal - 2.2mb

previous_build_config.mk - 226 bytes

ramdisk-recovery.img - 730k

ramdisk.img - 167k

recovery.img - 2.9mb

system.img - 105mb

userdata.img - 1.5mb
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] ooidort:
Sorry if this question is in the wrong thread, but didn't SE announce that the official Eclair update will be released in Q3? To my understanding Q3 in fiscal years means the period of 1st of June till 31th of July. Maybe I'm wrong or just missing something. :confused:
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] qwer23:
Q3 means between 1st July and 30. September.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] ddewbofh:
The fiscal year is different depending on location, it's safest to go with the Swedish variant where the third quarter ends September 30th.Worst case scenario and all that. :-)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] saltorio:
The "Q" stands for quarter, so each quarter is three months. Unless a company is talking about "fiscal" quarters (in which the start of the year can fall on any date), typically it starts on the first of the year. As such:

Q1 = Jan 1 - Mar 31

Q2 = Apr 1 - Jun 30

Q3 = Jul 1 - Sep 30

Q4 = Oct 1 - Dec 31

As a general rule, if a company announces a product is coming in "Quarter X", they more often than not mean right at the end of that quarter (last week or two).

In the case of SE and their 2.1 plan, they actually did specifically state that they would be releasing Android 2.1 for the X10 line at the end of Q3 and through the start of Q4. So don't expect an official OS upgrade until mid- to late-September.

It's looking more likely by that point we'll already have 2.2 available in custom ROMs, making SE look even more foolish than they already do in their OS support.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] ooidort:
Okay, thanks for clearing that out for me. :rolleyes: Back to waiting for the bootloader to be cracked.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] HunteronX:
From 'Custom rom development : Devs only' thread.

Does the kernel not boot up fully, and if so, is it because the phone's partition layout isn't 'standard'?

The reason why I'm asking this, is because I was expecting the phone to reboot using the new kernel, and load up Android 1.6 again, running on top of it.

All that I get is a 'frozen-looking' screen, with 'entry=20008000, entry(0, 1009000, 20000100).

I hope that this isn't just me being stupid... :o
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] zephyrix:
You need a modified kernel, otherwise it'll crash on boot.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] qwer23:
Would it be possible to set something up that will alert us immediately when bootloader cracking/custom ROMs are available for the community? I thought about something to subscribe with an email adress and get it right on the device when the devs succeed, perhaps something similar to the Energy ROM Checker. Would you like something like this and does somebody has time and skill to do it? Just an idea...

Cheers

qwer23
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] mr.vercetti:
Well... you can always subscribe into the Developers Thread, and put to alert you by email, when somebody post something in there, since it's a developers thread, it's certain to be news about the progress of things, and not some "stupid" comment.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] qwer23:
You're right, this should do the trick. Just didn't want to be alerted by every unimportant comment. But you are right that there are only important posts in dev thread, so that should be fine ;)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] adityak74:
About Custom ROM development

I have downloaded the sources of cyanogenmod 7 for xperia x10.But the problem is the jdk.The sun-java-jdk source has been moved from canonical or some prblem is there.I cant download it.So please anyone suggest me how to download and install sun-java-jdk.I am a bit new to linux so plz help me in downloading and installing it.

Thank you.

And thanx in advance.......
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ljankok:
Cheetah ROM.

Suitable for everyday use, real fast, rock stable and small footprint

- Official Base 3.14.531.0 (04666) WWE

- Manila version 2.5.20181527.0 CFC

- SYS 23151 (23151.5.3.12)

- Patched no-cert

Cheetah Philosophy

- Lean (132 MB)

- Business attitude

- Correctness (Using OSBuilder)

- Real Speed

- Rock Stable

Download Version 4.2 Core 23151:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/figb1sjd07sjd1i/Cheetah.v4.2.COM3.ROM.7z

Download Version 4.2 Core

21684:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/jeldm94rnh30oxv/Cheetah.v4.2.Core.ROM.7z

Thanks to:

- Barin for the superb OSBuilder

- Bepe for SPL and other superb tools

- Ultrashot for boldfont fix

- Chainfire for CFC tools

- Kristofpetho and Mondilv for the great community

- Dinik for the artwork

- Tom_Codon for showing me the initial way
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ljankok:
Changelog

Cheetah 4.2 Core

- Using Stock icons, Folder and Taskbar etc

- Fixed Battery Level not showing in Taskbar

- Calculator now links to HTC Calculator

- Fixed Office 2010 missing resolution files

- Task Manager is now linking to a bigger nicer Icon (still stock)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ljankok:
Notes / Issues

Notes:

- Notes sync disabled

- Internet tab removed

- Stocks tab removed

If you are missing an app it is probably because there is a cab for it

directly from the software maker (eg youtube, google maps etc).

Minor issues:

- none so far
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ljankok:
About flashing Cheetah

Cheetah can be flashed from SD card or from an activesync connection

with the included utility.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ljankok:
- Screenshots updated to include Cheetah v3.2s
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] spikerosoft:
First to post, looking forward to this new rom, name sounds impressive....

I can beta test :)

Good luck :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] patensas:
ljankok welcome to the LEO threads, i`m looking forward to testing your HD2 version of Cheetah.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] silverwind:
Hi,

I want to try your ROM, but any info about the suitable radio to use?

Thanks...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ljankok:
@patensas

Good to see you here, thank you.

@silverwind

I have updated post 4 for info about the Radio version I use.

@spikerosoft

Cheetah is the name of my Topaz ROM. Thank you for the

offer to Beta test.

Cheetah Nostalgia 1.0 is based on the same kitchen structure

as the Cheetah 4.3S business edition for Topaz so the testing

scope was limited :)

@all

Enjoy this release!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] silverwind:
thanks Bro

Downloading it now and revert to you soon...

BTW, any plan to post screen shots? I see that this ROM is Com2 (Winmo 6.5), right?

Any plan to cook for 6.5.5 version?

Thanks and cheers....
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] pixine786:
Thank you for the COM2 ROM... I see most chefs going to COM5/COM3 ROM nowdays.

I love COM2 ROMs. Will let you know my experiences after flashing my HD2
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] leocan:
Mirror link pls.