yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] santana11981:
I clicked the link in your original post and that still shows 2.2.0....but when i went to main page i see updated version...thanks dude
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SR3TLAW:
Wow, I had no idea people would have this much trouble with it. I can post my 2.4 version of it up if anyone wants to give that a try. Hit me up if your interested.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SR3TLAW:
I can post the 2.24 version if anyone is interested.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jgrimberg1979:
its back up now
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jgrimberg1979:
This is an unusal situation but eventually everyone should be able to get it, like i said it took me a couple of trys. Its deferent than most roms because this on actually forces a full wipe, which is def unusual. Also one thing i noticed when i put it in the cooker just to see the specs and it show "unsecured boot" which is unusal for roms to have
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SR3TLAW:
Yea it is back up.

Some bugs I found:

Search feature is not working from home screen.

At first install the messages app doesent seem to be installed correctly and for some reason their is no phone app in the launcher home row.

MMS does not work

couldn't get teh wireless tether in AP mode working
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] das7771:
Every time I end a call, I get an error message saying "network error message could not be downloaded". I am using the newest build
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gaLAxy64:
im a newby and I have just finished installing it on my Dinc and it rocks!! love the graphics. and also runing king#5 kernel and it is running great. no problems yet, "knock on wood". Alos used Rom Manager. Bear with me since I am still learning the lingo.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slygeist:
your silly:p
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StirCwazy:
Sure, let's give it a go. Post it and I'll give it a whirl.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Epicardium:
You do realize that post was over 2 months old....
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StirCwazy:
lol, actually I did not, thanks for pointing that out =)
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Grikshanks:
Gotta love necros
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] insanemunki:
Ive ran JagerRom Final for a while... ran quick and had 0 problems with it.. Looks nice with Incredibly Transparent theme.. then use Launcher. Only reason i left it was for Newer more frequently updated roms. But Jager is awesome.. Ty CaptJager
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Jezwick:
There's a couple of paid apps I wouldn't mind getting but the app store seems to work a little different than the WM one, I haven't signed up for a google checkout account as yet and that could be where I'm going wrong ..

So far Ive only downloaded freebees but when I dump a new build of Android on my phones SDcard all knowledge in the store of my downloads disappears, I assume this info is stored somehow on the SDcard. Is this the case with paid apps as well ??? or will google checkout keep a record of what Ive downloaded and let me download it as many times as I want, bit like the 'WM Market does after youve reflashed a ROM ..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Dasf77:
Just like you said, google check out keeps a record of your apps. In my case, in Portugal we dont have access to paid apps, so i have to use market enabler to be able to download paid apps i bought.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Jezwick:
Excellent, I'll get the creditCard out then :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] voiceofid:
yes, google saves all the apps you've previously purchased in your download history. i was able to redownload all the apps i had from my previous android phone into the new phone (weather widget, setcpu, etc..) you'll always have it as long as the devs continue to support it (for example, bloo, a facebook client stopped developing, i paid for it but really have no use now)
[Touch HD General] zero0007:
Right, since this is such a significant impairment (and some users don't seem to experience it), I decided to create a separate thread for it:

If anyone finds out how to properly CALIBRATE the touchscreen on Froyo on Blackstone, please post it here.

So far, the "msmts_calib=0x395.0x3c9.0x79.0x77" results in random keys etc being pressed on the left hand side of the screen.

Thanks

z.
[Touch HD General] camro:
well, there is a bigger problem as the calibration part ...

in froyo it seems to be, that the calibration willb e done automatical and it is not necc. to do anything extra...

but the module/driver for touchscreen is buggy ...

better for testing is the app dotty (can be downloaded from market).

there you'll see, that if you press via finger middle botton, that it jumps on screen touch to left botton - only sometimes ......and with this bug it is almost not possible to use the phone via fingers ...

my boot paramter for calibration is: msmts_calib=0x395.0x3c9.0x79.0x77

but as told above ... the problem is the touchscreen doesn't work correct if using finger ...

if you use the stylus, then it is working, so i think it is a bug, that if the touchscreen driver is getting multiple zones on touching the display, then something strange happen, and then it add an extra point on the left side, which makes using keyboard (SIP) almost impossible.

the only questions would be: does this bug also happenon 2.1 ?

because it it is there working, then we can try to implement the driver from 2.1.

cu camel
[Touch HD General] TheBrilliantMistake:
Slow down...

Slow down guys...

For 99% of users the calibration works fine, you're in the minority experience tolerance issues.

Touchscreens drift over time, and with heat fluctuations (quite dramatic ones only) etc.

You guys are just unlucky and have devices that have clearly drifted by some amount....

Now, there ARE instructions floating around about how to fix calibration issues, but they aren't on the Blackstone thread, they are elsewhere and I can't recall quite where, but they DO exist.

When it comes to used a finger instead of a stylus, here you just have to live with the differences between a resistive and capacitive touchscreen. Resistive is the one used on Blackstone and most other touchscreens older than 18 months old, whilst never devices tend to have capacitive screens.

What's the difference?

Resistive need physical pressure against the screen, but can be highly accurate in ONE position. You can use these screens with or without a stylus, so can be good for handwriting recognition etc.

Capacitive need NO physical pressure against the screen, but are less accurate.

However they can detect multiple presses at the same time in different parts of the screen.

You can't easy use these screens with a normal stylus and so they aren't ideal for handwriting recognition or fine detail work.

When it comes to using your finger on resistive screen, a lot of accuracy is lost... you're just pressing a large area of the screen and the screen can only deduce ONE point under your finger. This can lead to inaccuracy and wrong buttons being pressed with a UI that has tiny icons and controls.

If your touch calibration is ALSO out, then things get worse still.

Now, before any techies get too techy, there ARE some 'smart' techniques for trying to have multi-touch on resistive displays, but we will no go into that here, and they are generally 'hacks' that don't work in all scenarios.

You guys just need to get your displays recalibrated... that should cure 95% of all your problems, and the remaining 5% are just the stuff we all face... like no multitouch, pinch to zoom etc

It's definitely wrong to give the impressions that XDAndroid releases simply don't work correctly with touch screen. That's very misleading indeed.
[Touch HD General] veehexx:
i too have issues with touch screen accuracy (both 2.1a and 2.2 v1.0)

80% of the presses are fine, but the other 20% xdandroid would place my finger about 1" to the right, slightly down of when i first contact the screen, and then work out where i've actually pressed a fraction of second later, translating it into a swipe etc.

the touchscreen tool in the debug area proves this fact.

WM is perfect.

weirdly, it seems not to occur at all/noticably less using the stylus. maybe something todo with pressure/contact area?

i do think the OP has a valid issue tbh.
[Touch HD General] zero0007:
Thanks for the info.

First, I didn't mean to mislead anyone. I just noticed increased inquiries about this issue and I wasn't aware of the 99% of users having it perfectly working...is this a fact btw?

Besides, I am aware of the different types of displays but obviously, pinch zoom etc are not exactly the main concern, we are just looking to use the phone with our fingers mate! :D

I agree - I have been using the phone for many months running WM and I had no issue, whatsoever. I am not much of a techie but you are still referring to the software calibration, correct?

Thanks for sharing some valuable info again. I would love to see those instruction on how to do this calibration as without it and along with much of resentment to use stylus, it pretty much makes the phone running Froyo useless :))
[Touch HD General] TheBrilliantMistake:
But windows mobile typically makes you calibrate your screen when you reflash a ROM, making the calibration specific to your device.

It's also not clear where the calibration info is stored, other than the registry it MAY be stored in E2, or some flash area somewhere. Regardless, it usually forces you to recalibrate (some custom ROMs skip this).

The XDAndroid chaps deemed to 'auto configure' Blackstone calibration for some reason, and this is the most probable reason why folks are having issues.

As for 99%, hummm well, just my releases alone have over 20,000 downloads, and my stuffs one of the lesser used!... yes, some folks have calibration issues, but the majority aren't reporting any... I've maybe seen/heard 20 folks with the issue... that's not too many all in all across all the various releases. AND, some of those guys were also the types of guys saying "this sucks, the battery lasts 2 hours".... as if we didn't all know that ;-)

There was a calibration tool floating around somewhere, plus, those values CAN be edited to suit your device, so there is some home!
[Touch HD General] lilhugo:
Wow, I thought I was one of the only people that had the calibration issue. X_X It's what caused me not to use XDAndroid as much. =(

Anyone have any idea what the calibration tool was? I tried searching calibrate and calibration but no tool was mentioned in the Blackstone droid threads.

PS. I have no idea on how to change the calibration values... =/ When I open up the ts_calibration it shows up as blank. When I open up the startup.txt ("msmts_calib=0x395.0x3c9.0x79.0x77") I do not know exactly what the values affect.

Update:

I tried using the stylus but it currently has the same problem as if I was just using my finger... Does that mean that my touch screen is going out on me? =(
[Touch HD General] ydrohoos1980:
I have a problem too with touch screen calibration.....I guess i'm 1% of users...
[Touch HD General] veehexx:
im curious as to how maany others have this issue - seems theres a few coming out of the woodwork now :)

im sure the XDAndroid FAQ or the release thread says the devs are aware of almost all issues so dont bother reporting them (or something to that effect), yet i havent seen anyone mention touchscreen issues upto this thread.

does anyone see a need for a bugtracker for the XDAndroid, or are the forums sufficient? to me, forums seem a bit 'unofficial' with reguard to bugs - maybe an official bug tracker (specific to the android project) would help everyone to see what people are experiencing and numbers involved.

i must say i am only a user, so i dont see or get involved in the development side so maybe this thing already exists in closed circles.

to put it another way, each phone has their own android subforum so it must take the devs alot of time to collate info. bug tracker could be a better way to manage this?
[Touch HD General] mitikos:
I have the same problem, since 1.6... i touch the screen and is like i touched 1cm outside the screen on the left for 0.001 seconds, so is extremly difficult to type without stylus.

with the stylus is much better but still not good

Ps. i remember the first version of android working on blackstone (1.5 i think) was working good, and the touch screen was fine
[Touch HD General] zero0007:
I was actually thinking about the same thing..unsure how to proceed though...

I would dig up that version along with calib code in the startup txt file then!
[Touch HD General] veehexx:
well, i've put the idea forward in the main android subforum here.

it would certainly be useful from a user side perspective to see progress and known issues. fingers crossed :)

edit: and when did i move to 'Senior member'!!? :)
[Touch HD General] StevieBallz:
I experience similar issues with 2.2, didn't notice it to the same extent in 2.1. When I type on the on screen keyboard, pretty often i get an added button press detected off to the left (about 2 - 3 cm). The problem does occur a lot less when using the stylus instead of the finger.

This is NOT likely to be a calibration problem, as in that case all presses would be off consistently (e.g. always half a centimeter in the wrong direction or something like that).

It looks as if the Touchscreen sends some "incorrect" data that WM filters as too short of a press or whatever and that is affecting some users.
[Touch HD General] zero0007:
mmm, questionable.

Calibration is as far as I'm concerned done each time, individually with new system (ROM) unless using a saved one from previous attempt install (my Froyo case).

To my understanding of the matter, wrong calibration doesn't necessarily have to mean your display is "shifted" 2cm to the left or so. Simply, it just doesn't work properly i.e. you have the same problem as all other people in this thread.

Maybe reading TheBrilliantMistake's post about different types of screens earlier would help you understand...

after all, we need that calibration tutorial/tip which is allegedly somewhere around here...
[Touch HD General] mitikos:
I have the same problem, exatly the same.

Cant we set android to ignore the first 0.1seconds of a pression on the screen?
[Touch HD General] camro:
ah - finally :)

now you got it - this is exact the problem what i want to tell everybody ..., and i'm sure, that this happen, because the touch screen driver doesn't calculate correct the position when a bigger range (like touch from a finger) is touched. This doesn't happen, when stylus is used ...

to remove the first 0,1 sec or something ... don't think, that this would help

...on the other hand ... which module is responsible for touch screen ?
[Touch HD General] StevieBallz:
Just for a start the background of calibration (it's on security risks with touchscreen based voting machines but the principle is obviously the same) - http://vote.nist.gov/threats/papers/touchscreencalib.pdf

I believe TheBrilliantMistake in this case thought we'd sometimes hit adjacent buttons. But fact is, it always does trigger to the left and in addition to the correct press being detected, so well there's something else to this one.

Guess it will be ironed out eventually as it's a lot less common in 2.1. But it's annoying to the point of making texting a real pain in 2.2.
[Touch HD General] camro:
does it means, that under 2.1 there is no such kind of "touchscreen bug with finger" ?, because then we can take a look to the modules - maybe we can compare the difference to 2.1 ...
[Touch HD General] StevieBallz:
I didn't experience it there but I have to admit that I didn't use 2.1 for too long. Maybe it's a speed issue with 2.1 being more optimized and polished then 2.2 which leads to it occuring on a less frequent basis.

Due to the known problems with powersafe modes not being supported yet in XDAndroid I'm currently mostly running WM6.5 but I'm looking forward to the advancements with XDAndroid, great project.
[Touch HD General] justrome0:
Add 2 more devices to the 1%.

I'm experience the same issue. My friend which has a newer Blackstone than me let me put my XDAndroid mSD card into his phone and there goes the same issue.

Tested with some drawing applications, here is what i experienced:

Just like others stated before most of the times when the bug occurs I get a line starting like 2 cm to the left of my finger (and a little lower) and ending under my finger. It's like I've been dragging my finger across the screen for 2 cm. Sometimes it goes as far as the left side of the screen.

Since this is inconsistent I doubt it's a calibration issue. I must assume it's the driver. But I might be wrong.

Anyway I believe a lot more people than 1% are experiencing the issue but they aren't posting about it since they believe it's a known issue.
[Touch HD General] camro:
i'm sure, that 99,99% do have this issue on Blackstone, but almost nobody recognize it or live with that problem. for now android is only for playing/testing, and i mean, that a lot of users are waiting for fixes for:

.) battery consume

.) better Gallery support

.) camera

and last but not least ...

.) touchscreen with finger

.) time zone difference (if windows not set to UTC)

for me - i want to help fixing the touchscreen, which is the most important part, so that i can use it for writing emails, sms, etc ....
[Touch HD General] zero0007:
yep, those are exactly the issues.

having said that, I also agree the touchscreen fix is the most important..obviously.

It's a shame the forum is not somehow better organised..people posting up the same questions or finidings..we would do with something like a big sticker board or so :D

...I get the picture though, frustration....

:(
[Touch HD General] veehexx:
just for the sake of the thread, i've had issues on both 2.1a and 2.2 releases (2.1a is when i started using XDAndroid for the first time).

definitely finger related, as i've not had any issue with stylus (it really has been 100%!)

i've still not tried the latest 2.2 though.
[Touch HD General] camro:
ok, thanks, so it is a bug which is always existing on android for HTC HD.

i will try froyo on a diamond to look if there it also exists ...

well, ofcourse, if everybody is using the stylus, then nobody will find the bug.

i found the bug as i tried to install "swype" and then i saw that swype is not possible if this bug exists...
[Touch HD General] veehexx:
someone mentioned they didnt experience the issue on 'droid 1.5 (somewhere earlier in this thread)
[Touch HD General] camro:
do you know where ?

maybe we can try to use the driver from there - or maybe the a working ts-calibration file ...

because, what i see, in WM it is possible to adjust the touch pressure, this should be also possible on android .. or ?

but my aknowledge about the driver is not good.

ex: on diamond i tested the touch screen, and there the calibration on startup(if i remove the "ts-calbration" file) is working. Also there is not the problem with "sometimes jumping 2-3cm to the left". hmm - we must searching and trying to talk with the devel guys ...

maybe someone have contact via IRC or something ...
[Touch HD General] camro:
good, i tested now with several programs - only to be sure ...

here you see the test of a paint program where i did:

1.) only points with stylus

2.) only points with finger

as you can see, stylus is working almost perfect BUT

on finger points (single touches on screen), very often you press to the middle, but it start with a touch recognition form left...

sure ... if you are thinking i need it for painting, then you're wróng :)

if you are trying tom write an email or sms, then you see, that it makes no fun to use it ...

i made this to make it clear for all.

cu camel

PLS: tested with several different values in "ts-calibrate" - no difference
[Touch HD General] camro:
thanks for your support and informations ...

yes, this is true ... the touchscreen driver have a "hack" inside, because if i press left button and top right, then it calculate the first press + calc some ms later the position between the 2 points and the cursor goes to "middle".

but, if i touch the "middle" with the finger, it should not calc the "mouse to the 2-3cm on the left or somewhere ...it must calc the point "almost correct".

i'm searching the whole net for it, but haven't found ...

on my startup, i can't calibrate the screen, because the startup script check, that no ts-calibrate is on my sdcard, and then try to start the ts-calibrate tool.

but then i get a message like: "Inappropriate ioctl for device" and create a ts-calibrate file with zero(empty) lenght.

maybe something wrong on startup script ?
[Touch HD General] veehexx:
@camro - there we go; from page 1 of this thread... user says 1.5 worked...
[Touch HD General] camro:
thanks, i saw it, but haven't found after short searching a 1.5. i'm absent 7 days, after that i will try to find a 1.5 version somewhere and will test it there.
[Touch HD General] camro:
not sure, maybe the calibration have something todo with haret ....

http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=RaphaelTouchscreen

and maybe it would be working with haret 1.3, because for fryo haret 1.4 is used

i will investigate more time in it ...
[Touch HD General] zero0007:
right, what is the calib touchscreen inco here about?? :))

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=696127
[Touch HD General] camro:
on calibration i get an error

open input device Inappropriate ioctl for device

i made an extra thread for it ...

see: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=747878
[Touch HD General] neddyferrer:
Also same problem

Well.. about the 1% that have that issue with the screen..

I am also experiencing the issue with my blackstone.. very annoying when trying to use the finger..

But befre i read it on the forum I already tried with the stylus..

No problem with the stylus..

I hope that there will be a fix for this bug as soon as possible.
[Touch HD General] KanzlerAC:
got the same problem!
[Touch HD General] bjm374:
I have the problem too.

First time using Android, love the idea but without finger control it's next to useless.

Makes answering calls next to impossible for me (chubby fingers)
[Touch HD General] maqdesign:
Same problem here

I have a Blackstone with Froyo and when i use the finger sometimes touch in other place that i dont want to touch.. sorry for bad english
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] shadowkahn:
hi all i found out how to enable root permissions

but what is superuser request for.

also can i upgrade my firmware from 1.6 to the newest version when my phone is rooted
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] KOYHOY:
I will reply to this... but for future reference it says no noobs on the forums desc. That would include questions like this that you can easily find on google. Superuser privileges allow you to do things that an unrooted phone will not. Firmware roms are easily up-datable, there's even an app for that (not intentional iPod reference) if you cannot find one online for your phone.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] shadowkahn:
thanks koyhoy reason for asking was that i couldnt find decent descripton of super user request but knowing this i can continue rooting my phone.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] AyeGee:
Is there anyway to get Eclair on X10 mini?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] MarylandCookie:
It'll probably get stolen or youd probably sell it anyway lol :D
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] AyeGee:
Lol. Its been a while since I used to fall asleep @ vacations in Bulgaria etc ;) Its a reserve phone since both me and my GF got one Galaxy S each =P
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] parthabhatta:
Any news about SE update of 2.1 Eclair?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] swatsbiz:
Have a look here

http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/produ...on-xperia™-x10-to-get-uxp-upgrade-in-q4-2010/