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[HD2 General] sterz85:
haven't had any problems with the keyboard on my hd2, have you guys tried asking any of the developers to try to replicate the iphone keyboard for the hd2?
[HD2 General] sumflipnol:
Yes.:p:D

I just noticed how difficult it is to use the keyboard for long senteces. I was doing heavy, long texting today, and I kept getting mistakes. (I sometimes use Swype, but its accuracy can be way off at times.:(

I agree that HTC's EzInput isn't that great. It was probably meant only for single-touch, resistive screens that their older devices have. I personally found the virtual keyboard easy to use on my TP2 when I had to do quick texts -- it was much more accurate (and keep in mind: resistive screens are more accurate than capacitives).

They only boast their keyboard because it has the d-pad buttons on it (compared to other keyboards).
[HD2 General] ttownfeen:
I have no idea what you are talking about: i fing the virtual mb to be quite nifty. for example, i am using it right now to type this rsponse. its going just zplebdix. except cor the paefz when my fingeracacvidentakky touch outside the area of the keypad abnd that automaticlly diskisses the meyoad. that is annoying.

:D :D :D
[HD2 General] jkolner:
Have you tried to change the settings for the standard keyborad - it kan change the feeling a lot.

But in the end i wasn't satisfied with the standard keyborad, so i tried Fingerkeyboard that isn't a "swyping" keyboard?

Or, SlideIT, that i use. It's smilary to Swype, but much better for me.
[HD2 General] aegidios2:
hi,

By sensitive tweaks do you speak about this one :

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=697765

Work for me....
[HD2 General] sike222:
you really should give it a good try. At first it does not recognise all the words you type but then it learns and is soooo much quicker.

A friend who has the iphone said my keyboard was crap so we compared his against my swype. he was still on the first couple of words by the time i had finished the sentence. Granted i do touch type but swype really is quick with practice.
[HD2 General] DJGurth:
i wouldn't

use swipe pal, once it learns a few words and you get used to it its awesome, also the rate at which andriod is being developed for the hd2 is quick and the keyboard on that is fantastic on the massive screen.

i stick with it mate.
[HD2 General] Kalavere:
SlideIT is the one, I love that keyboard. It'd a bit quirky when you first use it, but once you get used to it, it's amazing. I can't use Swype anymore, it's not half as good as SlideIT IMO, and the fact that it hangs over the bottom taskbar on 6.5.x puts me off too.

So many links, I'm not trying to get you to try SlideIT, honest! :p
[HD2 General] j4n87:
There are so many 3rd party keyboards, resco keybpoard, touchpal, fingerkeyboard, sywpe....

I'm using swype&touchpal. tochpal for internet browsing, cause swype sucks there - i'm using german dic.

..and i love them.
[HD2 General] Kalavere:
Ah yes, Fingerkeyboard, I forgot about that one. It's a nice freeware keyboard, similar to the default one. Try that also.
[HD2 General] abmantis:
I use Fingerkeyboard and I have no problems typing...

Setup XT9 to have Spell correction and word completition. Then in Fingerkeyboard set it to use XT9...

I also use an old version of XT9 to always show the selected word in the text..

Oh, another thing! Are you using HTC Messaging with threaded SMS? That lags the keyboard... I use the default Win Mobile messaging application and I'm happy :D
[HD2 General] quertox:
i also had probs with my keyboard, so i send it to a repair service of htc and they changed my display. after that my keyboard works fine and i have no problems with ghost keys or something else...
[HD2 General] dsx2b:
I know how you feel.

Changin 'keyboards' would make any difference, since if the touch screen dont really understand what ure finger is doing, it'll still mess up the typing experience. it made me wanna throw my phone into the wall..and stomp on it.

Until one day.. i accidentally dropped my hd2 onto the my barbell from a 6 foot fall. Despite having no physcial harm on the screen (but later i found out that the keypad was split in half), the lcd went dark. Touch screen was fine, but i bought a 'presoldered' lcd+touchscreen and replace both my touch screen and lcd (since i know im gonna mess up the soldering of touchscreen to the lcd) .

Now that the touchscreen+lsd is replaced, i no longer depend on those 3rd party keyboard or registry/cab fixes, since the 'keyboard' (actually touch screen) is working perfectly. btw i bought it from g-plushk dot com. maybe give buying a new lcd a shot. Yeah i know one shouldnt have to resort to going to this extent, but I personally love the hd2 too much...despite wanting to throw it into a wall..and stomping on it :)
[HD2 General] Wildcopper:
I have no problem with the keyboard, I actually find it quite excellent and responsive compared to the ones from the other phones I've seen.

And I don't use SMS shortcuts - I always type full words and sentences.
[HD2 General] abmantis:
I only suggested Fingerkeyboard and not using HTC Messaging Client because it improves typing. But even with the stock keyboard I never had much problem! I've always been pleased by typing on HD2! In fact, I was surprised at first because it is pretty responsive.
[HD2 General] hagba:
I used most of the tweaks except those that to do anything with the Touchscreen,I used the Iphone for 3 years I could type on it very fast,and that means fast,on my HD2 I use Swype most of the time,the original one V 2,for me using the Swype is the most enjoyable part of this phone.however I just tried to use the Hd2 keyboard the way i used on the Iphone,I typed without looking to the text just typed fast, gazing at the keyboard itself all the time,and guess what, after 10 lines of texting discovered that I made just one single mistake, ICan say it is as good as the Iphone and the prediction is very well executed,but on the Iphone there is this TICKING sound while you type which gives you very sturdy keyboard feedback,otherwise not much differance in function.

BTW.in the settings I have reduced the suggested words into just 2 which I think makes a big differance.
[HD2 General] umiss:
I partly agree with you, but to those who really have problems with their typing, did you activate the vibration on the keyboard? It helped alot for me + decreasing the sensitivity on the screen. Without these tweaks typing is really really impossible, but now it's tolerable. I use SlideIt as my primary keyboard though and that is superb for me so I'm satisfied ^^
[HD2 General] HectiQ:
in android you have great keyboards. :) with word prediction, I love it
[HD2 General] ASCIIker:
i wrote a thread about the following about two months ago, with no responses...

my suggestion was to find a way to have the "other" landscape mode available as default. this positions the keyboard and its keys at a very central location, making all the left side keys at a comfortable distance and angle for your left thumb and all the right side keys at a comfortable distance and angle for your right thumb. here is the thread for more details:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=704809

as stated in the thread, there are some cosmetic bugs when using the keyboard in that screen orientation...but i swear it improves the typing experience quite a bit.

i also believe the screen hardware itself makes a difference. there is a visible trend...users of earlier bought hd2s tend to report a much more bad experience compared to users of later bought hd2s (such as myself). this is supported by the posts of users that have had their screens replaced, resulting in a more pleasing typing/touch screen experience.
[HD2 General] ttownfeen:
Did you send it to HTC or to your wireless service provider? What did you tell them?
[HD2 General] tboy2000:
Thanks for the feedback guys. That is what this community is about.

I have tried Swype today. Hmmmm! Not really for me. One stage my fingers were slightly moist and my thumbs did not glide over the screen smoothly and stuttered across. Also in winter, I think it would be very difficult to use thin leather gloves with the Swype keyboard but not as difficult to use gloves on the default HTC keyboard.

I have not sent it to HTC but need to do so soon for another reason - white bright spots UNDER the screen.

So for those who have no problems with the HTC keyboard, what are your settings in the Touch Options menu? Also have you calibrated the screen?

Fingerkeyboard users. Is it really better than HTC keyboard?
[HD2 General] smeddy:
+1 to tboy2000, I nearly started this thread the other day. I love the Hd2, and the latest Energy ROM has, for me, finally got me proud of the phone, after about 20 flashes over 8 months. But the keyboard is still weak compared to other phones and I sometimes dread writing messages on it, especially if the keyboard stutters.

I tried Swype for three days and while I was impressed with the feature, I didn't keep using it later.

So annoying - I nearly bought an old-school Sony Ericsson the other day...
[HD2 General] br4nd0nh347:
Have you tried the tutorial (and tips) for using the keyboard? (It's on the phone)

I find typing a little more than sufficient and I don't even have to look down too much. I also have xt9 disabled and only use correction. Other than typing a wrong word every now and then it's fine. Just my $0.02, if you have tried it already then I do not have any more advice, sorry.
[HD2 General] Tref:
My most recent phone before my HD2 is a TP2. The HW KB on it is just so so. And if it weren't for keyboardconfig it wouldn't even be acceptable, to me. The qwerty kb on the TP2 lacks the space key in the first number/symbol keyboard, I think because the screen is just narrow enough that the space key is squeezed out. But I do find that I can type faster on the TP2 qwerty KB than I can on the HD2 qwerty, and more accurately. I think it's because the screen is more sensitive on the HD2, and because the KB is actually bigger the pads on the bottoms of my fingers drag just enough to catch the key to the right of the one I'm aiming for, far too often. I'm hoping that will change in time as I get more used to using it. Today I downloaded boogiecornego's keyboard hack and it helps a bit.

All in all, unless something truly revolutionary comes along text entry on these things will always be subpar. I feel you pain
[HD2 General] ASCIIker:
thank you so much for linking the bold item in your quote above! i have studied his approach and i will post a tweaked landscape keyboard that should solve the problem as detailed in this thread of mine:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=704809

i have moved the cursor keys to the LEFT of the landscape keyboard and this places the alphabet keys and spacebar smack in the middle of the device when holding it in both hands in landscape mode. really makes a difference for me when typing in landscape mode. once again, updates from me coming soon!
[HD2 General] whatever999:
Hotfix 8787??

Hey Tboy,

Feeling your frustration...I have long moaned to friends and family about the keyboard failing the whole phone, but it has so many other advantages its just a minor niggle for me...but I totally appreciate what your saying...

talk about strange timing tho - it appears there is "new" hotfix which is changing the sensitivity of the touchscreen...

I have installed and it does indeed require a much heavier finger now, but it also seems to make the keyboard more accurate generally...it takes a bit of getting used to having to press a good deal harder, but for me, typing on the keyb seems to be accurate...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=697765

I would give it a try...

Whatever
[HD2 General] fintara:
I can say that the writing with HD2's keyboard is easy for me. The fingerboard - too. So it's individual for every person.

tboy2000, maybe you have big fingers? :D
[HD2 General] jdwrrzmm:
So I've just tired the new builds of Android with the new...kernel? Git trees? Whatever. Anyway, the keyboard in Android in works amazing now. Just a heads up for anyone reallying hating the keyboard.
[HD2 General] Sian:
I highly recommend Touchpal from Cootek. You can choose compact qwerty keyboard which give you a bigger key (2 letters per key). Good prediction engine as well.
[HD2 General] coolbeer1990:
hardware fault !!!!!! touchscreen is defective ! get it exchanged under warranty !
[HD2 General] morpheus1982:
Thanks for this! FKB is genius! Although my standard HTC Keyboard was fine after updating the HTC Messaging. Swype was good in theory, but too many lag and freeze issues for my liking!
[HD2 General] morpheus1982:
Tboy2000 shame on your for wanting to sell the HD2 because of the keyboard! You are the Leo Tips and Hints guru! There are so many alternatives out there to use. I personally have found the HTC keyboard to be fine now that the messaging app itself has been fixed, however I am not using Finger Keyboard. Swype was also great when it wasnt locking up the phone!

Seriously, with the options out there, you just have to make the choice, and if nothing satifies you, then maybe the virtual keyboard doesnt agree with you full stop :)
[HD2 General] tboy2000:
Confused..... Have tried a few things suggested on here. Can't some clever **** or smart alec make the ghost areas when tapping LARGER and move the ABC/XT9 button somehwere else? Pretty please? :-D
[HD2 General] sumflipnol:
LMAO!:p:D

That would be a request you should make to some devs -- possibly in the Apps & Themes section. I would like to see (essentially) an HTC EzInput keyboard with larger ghost areas and no ABC/XT9 button.

I personally don't use XT9, and I think it's better to take it out of the keyboard and keep the option in the Input Options Menu -- or at least put it in a far-upper corner, where we can't mis-press it.
[HD2 General] ASCIIker:
if by "larger ghost area", you mean a smaller pressable area per key, i'm on it! but i am currently doing this for the english landscape keyboard only because i think boogiecornejo has done a decent job with the portrait version:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=742445

i've been using a "prototype" of my improvements for 3 days but haven't found the time to get around to polishing it up and releasing it to the community. might have it done by end of this weekend.
[HD2 General] gus_chi:
This made me literally *Laugh Out Loud*!
[HD2 General] tboy2000:
I tried the portrait version in that thread but the lack of xt9 and unfinished skinning put me off. Shame!
[HD2 General] Alhambrase:
Just trying SlideiT as recommended in another thread - so far seems much better than HTC keyboard
[HD2 General] victorbd:
use android on HD2 it got keyboard calibrating (mattc 1.4 tested)
[Nexus One General] bluezz:
Nexus one has been the darling of the developer community from the start. It has the most mods, the most roms and the most love :p from the android developers.

I was thinking if Samsung Galaxy will be able to change this because it is being rollerd out very aggressively in North America (I think Europe too). Every major carrier is getting some flavor of Galaxy S and I think it is going to show up in many consumer hands.

Samsung also made the source code open source (not sure what are the repercussions of that) and from what I've heard Samsung does not encrypt the bootloader like Motorola.

So, do you guys think Samsung Galaxy S could become a major roms/mods magnet and dethrone Nexus? :rolleyes:
[Nexus One General] Blueman101:
Not likely, the nexus one is a Dev phone, thats what it was built for. Not likely the Galaxy S will see AS MANY devs as the nexus one has, but because it is so huge (every carrier has a version of the galaxy s) that it will still probably be popular.
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
Never.

Skinned phones don't get anywhere near the attention of stock Android phones.
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
It will take some effort for Samsung to earn people's trust that they won't just abandon the device like they've always done previously. That won't happen with just one device release. If a pattern develops, then perhaps. But even still, its not a developer phone, and that's a huge difference. But it may be very popular so we'll see.
[Nexus One General] cyberchuck9000:
Samsung has a shoddy record so far for supporting their Android devices, and devs don't take skinned phones as seriously as stock phones. I don't see Samsung taking over for a while. In fact, I don't see ANY phone in the pipeline that could be considered the spiritual successor to the Nexus One, and the Dream/Magic before it.

Motorola/Samsung may get the bulk sales and marketing budgets, but HTC is still the home of "real" Android.
[Nexus One General] galaxys:
+1 It doesn't look too good for Samsung catching up with HTC & the Nexus anytime soon.
[Nexus One General] Mokurex:
Would the same rom work on the different version of the galaxy s or the dev have to code differently for each variant?
[Nexus One General] TFJ4:
You'll get what you have with the G1.....A bunch of roms based off Cyanogen Mod Kanged with a theme and a few apps
[Android Software Development] Brooks316:
Hi, not sure whether this is the right forum, but is there an app available that can make the phone be recognised as a USB keyboard. Did a quick market search but not all apps are visible to me at the moment.

Cheers
[Android Software Development] russphil:
Not that I know of, although there are apps that let you use your phone as a wireless keyboard such as remotedroid.
[Motorola Droid Android Development] zenulator:
I'm in ;) now we need a #Team name so we can be trendy.
[Motorola Droid Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Is the build posted anywhere, or is this more of a closed open-source project? lol
[Motorola Droid Android Development] [ L ]:
WOOT! Please finish this for the world. I really like the Sense UI and would definitely like to have this.
[Motorola Droid Android Development] jamezelle:
ill post it when its more stable, if you want to help pm me and ill give you what i have so far.
[Motorola Droid Android Development] jrodizzkool01:
Awesome! I'd love to test if you ever need a tester in the future but for now ill just subscribe and hope for the best:D
[Motorola Droid Android Development] aerdely:
I'd also like to help but no computer, if there's anything I can do like test, let me know. I'd like to see sense on Droid. Even better when its done it gets themed. The mytouch 3g had ported over to my Eris when I had it had nice themeing.
[Motorola Droid Android Development] tktouch12:
this would be amazing if you got 2.2 sense on the droid working completely. i dont know much, but i would love to help if i can. this would be awesome. good luck, i hope this works.

maybe a zeusdroid member could help you with stuff.
[Motorola Droid Android Development] ECLIPS3:
+1

10 char!

jamezelle = l337
[Motorola Droid Android Development] SEGA-AM2:
Although I'm of no use when it comes to the actual development, I'll donate and test if you guys get anywhere with this. Good luck!
[Motorola Droid Android Development] lebmb:
now we'r talking :)

looking forward to whats coming.

finals are over on friday but i will be checking daily

we'll be glad to test
[Motorola Droid Android Development] tktouch12:
I really want to see this go somewhere. Do you have anyone else on the developement end to help you? Im sure ton of people wll test, but developers will be important unless you are really good. Are you making progress, or are you going to ask other devs for help. I can contacts some if it will help.
[Motorola Droid Android Development] kei6193:
omg.... yeSSSS finally a really really cool rom
[Motorola Droid Android Development] Muffinz:
This is exciting. Id love to test, no knowledge of coding though :/
[Motorola Droid Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Well I can't sleep, so I think I'm going to play with this idea for a minute and see what happens
[Motorola Droid Android Development] jamezelle:
what idea would that be? :D
[Motorola Droid Android Development] mr2man07:
Awesome! I was bummed that they cancelled the Zeusdroid project, especially all of the support and donations that poured in. I just wish they would release their work to benefit everyone else.
[Motorola Droid Android Development] luigi90210:
i hate that as well

hopefully this project will not be cancelled
[Motorola Droid Android Development] zenulator:
The project won't be canceled. Development might not move at the speed of light but it is moving along.
[Motorola Droid Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Was taking a look into ZeusDroid, which did work (except for the whole phone issue) and some of the running Milestone versions of sense and seeing about a FrankenDroid.
[Motorola Droid Android Development] lebmb:
hey guys school's out for 2 weeks, i got nothing big going on. id love to help or test.
[Motorola Droid Android Development] jearl75:
jamezelle, You know I'll test anything you need tested, just message me on twitter anytime. Not a huge fan of Sense, but will do anything I can for this community. I can't dev, but I can test like nobody's business. LOL
[Motorola Droid Android Development] bmx24:
idk if its bad luck or if i am just good at finding bugs in roms aneway i am very interresed in sense ui and i was running the zusedroid almost just after i rooted and i think i would be a great tester for your team because thats pritty much all i have to offer if so if u want i can do some testing for u pm me or somthing

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divices

motodroid rooted

running cyanogenmod 6 RC3

gal s theme with touchwiz launcher

closest thing to touchwiz untill somewone ports it
[Motorola Droid Android Development] mr2man07:
Any progress? Seemed a little quiet in here.
[Motorola Droid Android Development] bmx24:
will you make a relise it would be really fun to play around with
[Motorola Droid Android Development] jamezelle:
i havent updated this thread in a while, will do. check here for latest release

http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-hacks/65292-sense-2-2-booted-droid.html
[Motorola Droid Android Development] Bobboman:
I would recomend looking into what the Zeusdroid team was doing when they were bringing over the Desire OS to the moto droid, i think they had data working

they have a forum with a link to what they had done over on droidforums

take a look at what they did...maybe it will help, i wish i could help but i know nothing about java, but but i do plan on putting this on my phone...i love the sense UI and cant wait for HTC to announce their next verizon phone
[Motorola Droid Android Development] jamezelle:
yea im looking into what they did, but at the same time im trying to avoid the data/call issue they had

PS:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/27/mysterious-verizon-bound-htc-handset-appears-mysteriously-on-the/ :eek:;)
[Motorola Droid Android Development] Bobboman:
i tried what you posted yesterday, got it to install alright but i couldn't get my droid to make any calls

I hope this rumored phone comes to verizon before the beginning of 2011 because thats when my spare line expires and i'd willingly take it another two years if i could get a good phone with a great UI

i was interested in the droid x until it was reveled to hold motoblur...
[Motorola Droid Android Development] bmx24:
ya had the same problem put advansed task killer on your sd them install it with root explorer then kill all apps and the phone should be fine but before all of that make shure that the sd card mounts or nothing will work :D:D:D i love sense and he got calls to work in like one day of working on the ril fore the first time
[Motorola Droid Android Development] maybeiknowstuff:
This topic just got much more awesome. Keep up the great work! For some reason it doesn't seem like you're too far off from making it a daily driver for me!
[Motorola Droid Android Development] bmx24:
yep once wifi gets working i will use it all of the time:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
[Motorola Droid Android Development] lebmb:
good job bro :)
[Motorola Droid Android Development] xScopex:
Just installed this and so far I'm loving it. As soon as some things get fixed this will be my everyday rom.