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[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] grusy:
One of this guys is a member but as long as there are no personal and static IP's for everyone on the planet, ip bans are not working. You can block his region or his ISP but this will block not only him...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] MMAwarrior:
Hmmmm, ok so Ip bans are out! only one thing left to do!

Call / mail them meet them, beat em up!

Sounds like a plan to me! I could use the workout!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mmafighter077:
I could see this coming from a mile away. All this thread is going to cause heated debates and eventually name calling. There are always going to be people on both sides of the issue. XDA is place place to develop and share. Its not a place to combat warez or what ever you want to call "selling other people's work". Obviously XDA is against it... if you read the rules.

I totally agree with you on not selling other peoples work and not charging for "your time" but this thread is unnecessary. Its contrary to the goal of this section. Not to mention the already mentioned threats of spamming these sellers. Depending on where you are at this could be considered illegal.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] MMAwarrior:
you got a point, it's just that we are real appriciative towards the devs, and can't stand these guys making money off em..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mmafighter077:
I get you you... but I just feel if I want flame wars I could go to sherdog. haha.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] xfinrodx:
I think you completely misunderstood what I was saying! Let me go through and disagree with your impression of me, one paragraph at a time:

"Please explain this to me - what kind of "service" would you offer? Downloading a rom build by someone else and extracting the file to a sd-card?"

-Answer- Absolutely. As well as educating the person and ensuring that any additional HSPL, radio, or WinMo rom was installed correctly and was appropriate for their hardware.

"And making false promises by telling your "customer" that android would be "fully functional" (there's no "fully functional" build out there!)? Wow very very impressive!!"

-Answer- Absolutely not, and if you would have taken the time to read my original post, that you quoted, you would have seen that I made provisions for informing people of the community and where they should go for more information on Android on the HD2.

"And despite the fact that "your service" is based on the hard work of someone other than you (who really deserves the money)"

-Answer- Back to the mechanic, I think this one has been cleared up with a battery analogy. Perfectly clear. If you need more explanation than that, I am willing to delve into more comparisons.

"I am sure that this kind of "phone mechanic" wouldn't spend one single Dollar/Euro on a donation to the developers who made this possible."

-Answer- I would be happy to donate to the devs if I were to profit from a service based on their work, out of appreciation AND out of capitalistic interest in potentially further motivating them to continue developing and improving.

"This makes me sad. This makes me sick. This makes me very very angry!"

-Answer- Think about it from a more objective basis and perhaps you can feel less queasy.

"My advice to the developers: Cook in a message displayed when Android is started making it clear that their piece of software is experimental, free and can freely be downloaded at xda-developers.com."

-Answer (even though I am not a dev)- That would be fine with me, possibly even beneficial, especially if the "experimental" part was emphasized to imply that there is some kind of risk or knowledge that should be had prior to going out and just diving into Android.

"I fully second thread starter's posting - DON'T STEAL FROM THE COMMUNITY! DON'T STEAL FROM THE DEVELOPERS! And last but not least: DONATE DAMMIT!"

-Answer- Again, I do not condone stealing intellectual property. However, I believe that distributing the intellectual property of others is not stealing. Ever written a paper? You quote your sources, but YOU get the grade. Your sources never (or extremely rarely) reap any benefit from your work of putting research and experience together to put out a clean, finished product. And donating is fine and good and should be done if you find the software useful.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] laie1472:
If I understand any aps2 sd will slowy loose mem because of data build up please correct me if I'm wrong but I've been using titanium back up the data wipe option on every app that I use last and it always puts my mem / internal mem back I have done this for one month straight and it has not failed me yet don't know how this will work for every one but it does for me I have over 85 apps installed on darch droid 2.7 with the all black theme and I have 156 internal mem and it stays that way so try it out along with cache mate for root useres also boot into recovery and move ur dev cache &apps to sd any ways just thought Id put it out there
[Hero CDMA Android Development] TheGman125:
What size card do you have?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] laie1472:
16 gb
[Hero CDMA Android Development] laie1472:
If anyone tries this let me know if it works for you
[EVO 4G Accessories] The_Real_D/\SH:
these are pretty cool and 3m double sided tape works great to fix the issue of adhesion

[YOUTUBE]iruQmR6lA7k[/YOUTUBE]
[EVO 4G Accessories] scl23enn4m3:
Cool review man. You did a really good job explaining everything and covering the details! Thanks for using a tripod :p!
[EVO 4G Accessories] sisith:
Great review! I was looking at these but no one had shown the results of the wide angle lens. Thank you soooo much!
[EVO 4G Accessories] The_Real_D/\SH:
no problem guys and glad that you enjoyed: )
[EVO 4G Accessories] mendez_v:
I purchased the Macro lens and it works excellent. Kinda gives the 8mp camera some much deserved respect.
[EVO 4G Accessories] flyingwolf:
Where can one buy these? Put up some links (preferably with affiliate tags in them ;) )
[EVO 4G Accessories] The_Real_D/\SH:
if you click on the video and than look at the description below the video on youtube you will find the links to where you can find both of these for under 30 shipped for both
[EVO 4G Accessories] saintirish:
Let us know when they come out with lenses specifically for the evo that will fit well
[EVO 4G Accessories] flyingwolf:
I know that, but sheesh, get yourself some affiliate love man, make some money for bringing us a nice review.
[EVO 4G Accessories] The_Real_D/\SH:
hahaha ive been trying and got some companies to sponsor but not any big ones yet... got any ideas or hookups let me know
[EVO 4G Accessories] flyingwolf:
I am working as project manager for a company right now but I am under NDA so I cannot discuss it.

But once launched and the NDA is no longer in effect I may be able to bring something back to the XDA family and those who have worked so hard on these things.
[EVO 4G Accessories] The_Real_D/\SH:
sweet! keep me in mind brudda!
[EVO 4G Accessories] Tjwoo:
You forgot one of the major parts of the wideangle/macro lens.

On the first lens you reviewed, it actually unscrews and separates into two different peices. The smaller peice itself is actually the advertised macro lens, and you can greatly magnify your camera's views.
[EVO 4G Accessories] The_Real_D/\SH:
thanks and realized that right after i uploaded the video lmao
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] supagene:
Wanted to know if people are using APPS2SD on their incredible, what ROMs work with it and what the good and the bad issues are with using it?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] elpeterson:
i feel like i see a lot of posts on this topic with no answers, i'm look for the same info...
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonnybueno:
Making this thread in effort to keep things a little less cluttered in the forum/threads

Post your inquiries here and I'll try my best to answer your questions when time permits... this is a community so hopefully the other experienced senior members will chime in to help.

Overground: can we get a sticky?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonnybueno:
reserved for faq
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tyler 3:
Alrite just a couple questions about theming and customization.

I would like to apply your red sense theme.

-Do I have to use a rom or can I just apply it on my rooted phone?

-If I have to use a rom which do you suggest so I can still use the original internet app that came with the phone?

Thx for all your help!
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deficitism:
Sent you a PM about this actually.

Whats the trick to enable transparency? Particularly the notification pull-down. I have already modified framework-res.apk to include the transparent images, however they are not displaying transparent when applied to the phone. I read a few things about hexing, and even found a 'transparency patcher' program from droid-forums. This patcher apparently, does the hex work for you on services.jar. However, it did not do the trick. What am I missing here?

I'm running my own fully deodexed custom rom based on the 2.2 sense leak.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SoCalMiles:
I'm working on Transparency as well...I contacted Xeudoxus at droidforums...hopefully he can help.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] emplox:
I would just like to know how to manually change my icons and or folders on my home screen and in my app drawer. Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KGBxxx:
I too would like to find out how to change the "Folders" icon from the plain manila to obviously something else.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonnybueno:
All root themes will usually only work for the rom they are made for. Sometimes there are big changes to the firmware, sometimes little... a good rule of thumb is to always make a nandroid backup if your an early adopter. So long story short:

1. yes

2. whatever rom i made the theme for... you can only use the original browser app with sense

I have no idea... If you guys get ahold of Xeadoxus then let me know how its done. I have a feeling he'll tell you to download xUltimate though.

Changing folder icons/app icons: you're gonna have to theme the rom you're using

basic ingredients in no particular order:

1. update.zip- just download one of themes and the update script in there (META-INF) or make your own if you feel like learning the syntax

2. resigning tool http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3175518&postcount=2

3. 7zip for extracting apks

4. Android SDK

5. Lots of time

Start extracting apks and viewing the contents of res/drawable-hdpi---where you'll find icons

Most icons are named ic_launcher_XXXX.png, some are named app_icon, others are just simply icon... you'll have to look around to find them as there is no easy way to change them. Once you find the icon you want to replace, drop your new icon (with exactly the same name) into the same directory (preferably using 7zip since you don't have to have the directory extracted to replace it) and resign the entire zip file... flash zip and win!
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KGBxxx:
So how much time do you think I would need if I was to do this? Just kidding looks like a pain in the ass. However, doable. Thanks for the link to signing the zip. Thought it just might be a bit easier. Hopefully soon I can change the plain folders to a picture of my girlfriend or something.

Sent from my noob rooted dinc.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] craigmack:
Signal Bars

I have seemed to try everything to change the signal bar(s) colors. I have changed all of the icons to a red theme and the only way I can think thats left is that it has to be hex coded. Important fact is I am running skyraider 2.0.1. Has anyone had any luck changing these?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iball8888:
Well its official, Evo is getting 2.2 tommorow.

Source: http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/evo-4gs-android-2-2-update-starts-trickling-out-tomorrow-loads/

SO my question is...Stock OTA 2.2 or should I root and go for Cyanogenmod?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cloud858rk:
I'm running CM6 now and I miss Sense, so I am going to install a rooted verison of the 2.2 OTA ASAP. The Evo is doesn't feel like the Evo without Sense, IMO.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sporkman:
wut ! lol CM6 = win
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fr4nk1yn:
ASOP lacks polish in a few areas. SMS, dialer, contacts, call log.

It's beyond lack of polish really, it's like it was rushed and just thrown in as an after thought.

Sense in those same areas, especially the dialer, is much better.

All personal opinionthough as some people hate sense as much as I dislike ASOP.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MSmith1:
You can easily find (often better) replacements for sense functions in the market. just sayin.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Skeptron:
true story:D
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] feld0013:
Copy-Paste in Sense, it pwns n00bs
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rdub4nd:
Once the official 2.2 comes out it will make AOSP all that much better. The little bugs that are currently in cm6 will be rather shortly I bet. There are only two features of sence that I like over also...cut and paste and no hassle Facebook sync of contacts with birthdays and calander events.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 2fastkuztoms:
With the release of the oficial froyo, cyanogen would get better, cyanogen would have everything working...

Remember when roms didnt have everything working, after htc release the source and 1.47 OTA, then in days the roms get everything working...

I got over 1600 in quadrant and 49.6 in linpack using cm6... for me, the root its the way to go...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SilverZero:
I think the real question is, are you willing to flash stock 2.2 and lose root, possibly forever?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kpoz:
It may lack polish, but Sense looks worn out.

Furthermore, although I agree the Sense dialer is better, the stock messaging app is better than the Sense version. The Sense version has a brief loading screen every time you open a thread, even if there is a single message in the tread. In addition, the stock messaging app shows your friends' gtalk status, which is a great feature.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iball8888:
Honestly, Sense means nothing to me.

Sense for WinMo makes sense...its need because Winmo navigation and such sucks. But Android does most of what Sense does in stock. I don;t see the big the deal about Sense.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hved999:
Really it just depends on your personal preference. AOSP is great and has its weaknesses... as well as Sense. Try running both ROMs once they are officially released for a couple of days... see which one you like. Each user is different and uses their Evo differently than others... so it just comes down to preference.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iball8888:
Eep...DARN YOU PERSONAL PREFERNCE!!!

I was hoping someone would mention if there are huge bug fixes and more features compared to stock.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hved999:
You will have alot more features with cyanogen then you will with stock... thats for sure
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LudoGris:
Yep...your linpack score will go up about 1-2% with cm6. Of course does it really make a difference? Don't know myself, going from baked snack to cm6 and linpack score of 9ish to 40ish didn't make a difference in anything I saw, and I missed Sense (personal preference and all).

The benefit of this forum and all the development here?

cm6 will only be one of many different 2.2 roms you will be able to try out. Have fun trying them all...I did, and I can't wait to try some new ones in the coming days and weeks! And it only takes 5 to 10th minutes to flash a new ROM and restore my titanium backup.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Brutal-Force:
I love Cyanogen 6, with a few exceptions.

#1 I like Sense widgets, I have looked for replacements on the market, but there is just no replacement. I have liked Rosie since it was leaked on the G1 a year ago.

#2 4G is coming to my area soon, and although I am sure Cyanogen will have fixed it given the next roll out, Froyo + Sense is all I am really after.

#3 In my opinion, its people like Cyanogen, Toast and friends that push HTC/Google to push out these ROMs. Sprint even included their own wireless tether thanks to the community.

#4 With the New advocation of Cellphone Hacking, there will be leaps and bounds with the next ROMs. I suspect that this roll out is just the beginning.

The only thing I would like in my Sense ROM is the Dialer from Cyanogen. :(
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] majorbro:
if this idea was possible then NO NEVER.

but..

inconceivable!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bacdoliljo:
CM6 is very good, but lacks here and there because it's based off 2.2 from the Nexus. Even if some of the functions of the Evo were made to work, the code might not be as clean as a native Evo rom. I'm thinking Cyanogen may move all of his *extra* developments for the Evo over to the native 2.2 base. I can't wait to see what he does with it now that he doesn't have to worry so much about making all the stock functions of the Evo work
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jerryparid:
Sense >>> AOSP, just disable Rosie and use Launcher Pro.

CyanogenMod is still buggy and incomplete so the OTA tomorrow will be a much better at least for a while.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Minjin:
We can't compare it to Sense 2.2 for the Evo because NO ONE HAS SEEN IT. Wait a few weeks and then ask this question.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] glock23c:
Except I'm pretty sure that there are leavings all over in the Nexus One code base that he's using of files and references applicable to other, older, versions of android phones.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hydralisk:
Oh hey uhh... NO WE'RE NOT GETTING FROYO TOMORROW.

They won't even START to roll it out until August 3rd. Where are you getting your information.

http://topicfire.com/share/Android-2-2-for-the-EVO-4G-is-Officially-Coming-August-3rd-15032004.html

With that being said, sense sucks. It's a slow memory hog with a ****ty bluetooth stack. CM6 >>>> Sense
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jerryparid:
Droid Incredible has leaked Sense 2.2
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Minjin:
I know. I also know that every carrier does different stuff to their ROMs. Whats the point in trying to predict or guess what could be? Lets just wait and see what is actually real.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cloud858rk:
"Notifications will go out starting August 3, but Sprint's doing something extremely cool by allowing eager users to opt-in early and grab the download at their choosing."

http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/evo-4gs-android-2-2-update-starts-trickling-out-tomorrow-loads/
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cloud858rk:
You should listen to this guy. Who knows if Sense has been optimized, or if it had its bluetooth stack updated?

(And yeah, sorry for the double post.)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] setite:
I am getting used to Cyanogenmod, but its lacking in polish. The calculator app is a POS. The SMS app has grown on me. I am missing visual voicemail, and I don't like YouMail. I look forward to the flash assisted video and built in flashlight. I use BeamWidget for that now. The camera app isn't all that much fun either. Takes good pictures of course.. but it feels very basic.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mjz147:
I first owned the Hero and really liked sense, then began to realize how bloated it is in the OS.

I liked sense on the EVO, particularly the clock/ weather widget and the big calender...thats it.

Even after turning off Sense all of the HTC apps are still their..

Here is my opinion over which is better, granted I like AOSP much better, but I will try to be fair.

Dialer

Sense has better functionality because of the ability to dial someone and finding their number quicker by typing their name, however i like the green/red fading screen when you are in and when you end a call. So it really boils down to looks over functionality.

Messaging

IMO stock froyo looks nicer than Sense. You have ur contacts pictures next to every message, and it looks alot nicer with the white and light blue color, vs. the black and gray in 1.5. The sense version always takes a second or two to load up each conversation, and scrolling is not as smooth as it could be.

Email

Stock works fast, but Sense is a little more organized.

Gallery

Both need work IMO, the sense one always had one thing that bothered me, everytime you touch the screen while looking at a photo it took you back to all of your pics.

Scrolling on froyo, is unnatural going right to left, and is a pain to get all the way to the end where your most recent photos are. Plus multi touch is too jerky. sense wins.

Browser

Tie, both fast, both nice looking

Notification bar

Froyo, the CM6 one comes with a transparent white notification bar, which looks fantastic, very smooth, and very bright, its much better than the black stock one. it makes the phone look alot brighter and nicer IMO

Lock screen

Tie, preference whether or not you like to slide down or right to left, but froyo gives you the ability to silence the phone without having to unlock it. froyo is ahead IMO because when you have a password on your phone, like most people do you don't have to slide to unlock it just takes you to the pattern screen. With sense you still have to swype it down.

Calender

Sense looks just a little bit nicer, but Stock froyo, is much lighter and faster.

Music player

Stock killllllssssss Sense, I hate the Sense music player, it takes too long to load up your music, and is not organized nicely. The stock android music player on froyo, is instant, and much easier to scroll through long lists, and is better than the iPhone music player IMO

Overall speed

Froyo is blazing fast, and HTC sense is nice but still felt noticeably slower than stock 2.2. Granted no one has seen an official version of the EVO with sense and 2.2, but the nexus one with 2.1 still felt a hair faster than the EVO with sense turned on.

also with CM6 you have really cool live wallpapers, you can edit the nexus one style one, and mess around with the colors, and speed, nothing big, but something pretty cool.

It boils down to how you like it, But I just flashed the CM6 ROM two days ago, and with basically new apps, and icons, a new lockscreen and notifcation bar, it felt like a new phone, I love it.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stillryan:
I've been running CM6 for a few days and i'm liking it. But i also miss elements of sense. I know that there are ways to get almost everything that sense has in it from the market, which is one thing i love about android.

The biggest thing that sense has over aosp for me is the integration. The thing i miss the most was partially touched on, the easy facebook sync with contacts. I could care less about the facebook part, but i like how much info you can get about a contact in sense. That is probably the only thing i want from sense, the contacts app.

I do have a question, but i think i already know the answer. Since I'm running CM6, will i be able to do any OTA update that Sprint offers, or will i need to flash to stock and go from there? I'm 99% sure that i'd have to go to stock again, but i needed to ask to satisfy my curiosity. Plus i'll potentially get asked about this by some of my customers.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] conflikt:
Im running cm6, but I am going to run a rooted version of the froyo ruu for the sole purpose because it looks better and I like the sense options. I can bet with linpack and froyo with sense you'll be getting scored just as high as cm6 and the other roms look at DC for example.