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[Android Software Development] DannyBiker:
Really ? Terrible news for my Magic...Unsuscribing to the thread as I type...:(:(:(
[Android Software Development] ideaplastic:
I can help you in testing KiteUI on HTC Desire and maybe i'll try to help you with translation to russian
[Android Software Development] abe_ahmed09:
I would like to test. I have a HTC Evo
[Android Software Development] yuval1983:
hi i what to test on htc desire :))))))

thanks
[Android Software Development] fewzz:
Just the type of UI thats needed , looks sweet and with like a app/folder for each section is great , alot of thought has gone into this and cant wait to try it out!

I run a Desire on o2 in UK , id gladly test for you but you probably got many allready but the offer is there.

Keep up the good work!
[Android Software Development] YoungSinema:
No 320x480? Wow! Oh well. It's time to move on. This is still a great idea for those that can get it. Enjoy!
[Android Software Development] Midwest Express:
Moto Droid 1 tester

Hey, if needed I would love to help out with testing on a Moto Droid 1.

Diggin the look and can't wait to get a chance to get it loaded up.
[Android Software Development] zachsx:
Ill test obviously you'll have enough but running sch i500 galaxy s
[Android Software Development] mezo9090:
Is it time for project updates ? ;-)
[Android Software Development] jpnew:
is there any hope for google voice support for those of us who don't use the stock messaging app?
[Android Software Development] willeman:
Vodafone 845

Might I test it on my Vodafone 845 (dutch version)?
[Android Software Development] crax0r:
I would like to have the Android 3.0 Framework with this Launcher! :D I'd love to do some beta testing! btw, I think it would be awesome if you had a black version!
[Android Software Development] harriisnotinabox:
ah man, that's sexy.

just like everyone else, i'd love to help test it.

i have a rooted milestone with froyo, if that helps =]

keep up the good work!
[Android Software Development] MAMBO04:
Looks totally amazing. Wouldn't mind testing this, i have a Samsung Galaxy S (UK Version I9000) with Froyo/Rooted.

I have a feeling that this will look epic on the SGS, because of the screen. Top work, i will be checking this thread more often!
[Android Software Development] Tmoulton55:
Slick

Nice concepts, I like the cohesive ui design and consistent treatment of navigation level. One thing it could use is the ability to customize within the constraints of the design. I think you can offer some user control without sacrificing elegance. This might be already planned but customizing directions of navigation, using up/down as well as left/right would give you more to work with. Might conflict with scrolling but you could use window focus to solve that.transparency, color, and texture for the white backgrounds would be great. That control would require text color customization, preset styles would be ok too but not as flexible. Light theme and dark theme with color sliders for the backgrounds would give a good amount of control without sacrificing the look.

Another thing that would be good to see is the gallery ui, it could integrate with music and video in some way. I find it's a little buried in most home screen flows. The music is great and could be expanded to integrate pandora or internet radio. If your skin could apply to pandora it would bring it all together.

Just some ideas, keep up the good work.
[Android Software Development] Liquidice:
If things go according to plan you can all expect an illustrative video presentation of the UI sometime this month. I know that's a bit unclear but I don't want to disappoint anyone with a false date.

As far as the actual UI is concerned it's still a work in progress. ;)

We appreciate the support & comments everyone. Keep it up!
[Android Software Development] sergioalvarezmac:
Thanks for maintain us informed. Waiting for that amazing (surely) video.
[Android Software Development] nutweevil:
looks great! Good luck in this project!!

u're doing it in your free time or you're using a significant time to it?
[Android Software Development] mr.megi:
will this UI allso be for mdpi screens ?
[Android Software Development] K900:
No

Sent from my HDfied HTC Desire
[Android Software Development] Colomonster:
Tapping foot... i sure hope this works out as well as it seems... this is a UI, so does it replace sense? i dont quite understand how this is going to work... could you elaborate on how this UI will work, is it basically a mask? just curious...
[Android Software Development] K900:
Will replace Sense, Motoblur etc., yeah

Sent from my HDfied HTC Desire
[Android Software Development] TheGrammarFreak:
Most importantly, it's built into the OS. So it's not an APK you can install (not to my knowledge)
[Android Software Development] Stalte:
So from what I am hearing this is basically going to be a rom. Like Sense, LiquidE, or Miui. I think that might be a little more work than is necessary. I was expecting something like Launcherpro or ADW Launcher. That seems like it would be a lot more plausible.
[Android Software Development] kshelton:
This looks very impressive.
[Android Software Development] TheGrammarFreak:
Yeah, but quite a lot of what he wants to do will probably require much more integration that a home replacement app.

Swyped from my Galaxy Tab
[Android Software Development] cingall:
If it's a ROM and not a home replacement app wouldn't that hinder the success?

My thought is that a home replacement could be used with any ROM, but if kiteUI is a ROM it would need constant maintaining to keep current with Android.
[Android Software Development] generalamerica:
Agreed I would see it better fit as a home replacement app for 2 reasons not everyone is rooted and wanting to use a custom rom and there's really no money to be made in the rom industry.
[Android Software Development] Dcon87:
That is true, but i think the kind of integration he is looking for in this UI would require it to be more than just an .apk it would almost have to be a rom
[Android Software Development] Zhypr:
Like what though? Can you point out an example? I must say I haven't read this entire thread, but looking at the concept pictures I don't see anything that would be a problem. You can do a lot with flashable zips and presets in home screen apps.

The major reason to make it a ROM would be compatibility in my opinion. Say it only runs on a clean vanilla ROM, might as well prebake the entire ROM then.
[Android Software Development] cingall:
I think it would be widely accepted as a home replacement apk because of the ability to use with many different ROMS. I think the project becomes more complicated if it you go the ROM route. BTW this is just my humble opinion :D
[Android Software Development] sergioalvarezmac:
Look at the MIUI Rom thread. They make a complete UI modification, and it is a Rom, and nobody is complaining. If you want it, you must flash the entire Rom.
[Android Software Development] DannyBiker:
Yeah but that excludes the devices that are not supported by the ROM.With my Magic I'm not allowed to run most of the popular roms, while I can run (and therefore, PAY FOR) almost every launcher...
[Android Software Development] Schmarvin:
Wow...this looks epic. :)

I'll be waiting to test this out for sure.
[Android Software Development] cingall:
How many Android devices can run the MIUI ROM?

+1 That's exactly the point I was trying to get across
[Android Software Development] simonthor:
I have an easy example.

The dialer (when you get a call, or is calling) simply cannot be complete if it's a apk.
[Android Software Development] :
I would love to test this I have a EVO
[Android Software Development] MacaronyMax:
Like the idea :D

Can't wait to be able to get it! :D

And can't wait till I get that phone in the pic too :p
[Android Software Development] Mellexx:
Seems extremely interesting, Unfortunately my screen is only 240x400 and it sucks so I won't be seeing this soon. Looks amazing nonetheless :p
[Android Software Development] ker0ltjuh:
no updates? :S
[Android Software Development] TheGrammarFreak:
There's nothing exciting happening. Just dull coding stuff at the moment

Swyped from my Galaxy Tab
[Android Software Development] Speakershock:
I love the work you are doing!

hope it comes out for the Galaxy s i9000 too..

Keep up the good work!

I'll be following the progress
[Android Software Development] :
How is this anything other than a sense clone? Theres nothing that isnt being done already, and the "deep level integration" is only going to hinder it. Youd be better off doing wholy independent phone/msm/home apps.

Also you might want to add something new, this seems like nothing more than a skin with widgets.

Theres also no justification for arbitrarily ommiting by resolution size. If your layouts are being designed by pixel count your already off to a bad start.
[Android Software Development] eliasingea:
this is very sexy!
[Android Software Development] die-hard:
Nexus One and me are there
[Android Software Development] MrPadie:
As a developer of this program, I'd like to correct you on a few aspects of your message.

Firstly, this is far from a sense clone. Sense incorporates a skinned home app with new widgets, and just skins the Android OS, as well as adds HTC's own apps. I'm sure you would know this. KiteUI on the other hand not only skins the Android OS (which is a secondary goal at this point actually), but it also incorporates it's own applications too. What you see in the images of the homescreens are not widgets - they are hard coded into the home application. Trust me on this, we would not be developing this if it were simply another clone - a lot of work is being put into creating a fresh and new UI for the Android OS. The level integration is also something that will be worked on carefully, and as you will hopefully see in the finished product, makes the KiteUI what it is really.

In terms of the resolutions - we are developing for HDPI devices only, as we feel it reflects the true quality and look of what KiteUI should be. Developing for smaller devices might be something in the far future, but for now, with the way that devices are being developed, it will be redundant and pointless to develop this for anything lower than 800x480. And just for clarification, the development team is well aware of the fragmentation issue with Android, and hence we are not using pixel-set layouts.

I would advise for future reference that you please take a deeper look into the description of projects, as with this project, it can be clearly seen that this is quite different to the SenseUI layout.

Thank you for your feedback though.

MrP.
[Android Software Development] asqwrd:
Is there away to tack the progress of this other than this thread I am really interested in how this will turn out and would love to be a tester when testing begins
[Android Software Development] :
See the thing is that you're not creating a "new refreshing ui", all I see here is a theme that's hardcoded and will probably only appeal to rom builders.

Looking at your feature set, it's heavily based on "shares the same beautiful look". That's fine and dandy, yes, the clouds are heavenly, but other than rounded assets with a bevel and drop shadow how are you adding anything refreshing to the ui?

Your connectivity/games/applications "organizer" is a category/catalog like in adw.

You social level is essentially a social widget, and the web level is an rss reader.

Unless you guys have a secret feature set your putting together in the backroom there's nothing really new here.

I'm not trying to **** all over your parade, but committing this to anything higher level than a home replacement seems like a waste.
[Android Software Development] orangekid:
usually when someone says they're "not trying to **** all over your parade" they are doing exactly that, and this is no different.

Even if everything you are assuming is true, why go into the thread and just start telling the developers how worthless their product is? Is there something useful you can say or recommend, or any positive changes your can suggest?

Even if it was JUST a home overlay, it still looks awesome as hell, especially for people (like me) with an HD2 who can fully blaze this thing in all its glory on a 4.3" 480 X 800.

You could claim that the MIUI ROM was just a home overlay if you just saw a couple of screenshots, but it is a totally different ROM experience when you actually flash it (or load it off SD in my case).

Gives these guys a chance, I personally can't wait to see the final product on this thing.
[Android Software Development] DannyBiker:
I have to agree with JCopernicus, although I wouldn't have said it (my policy is : if I don't like it, I don't comment it).

If my interest for this project died when I heard it was for higher resolutions only, I realised that I wouldn't check it anyway. It's very nice-looking (and I mean VERY nice) but aside from that, it's just always the same thing : default screen with clock, feeds, social, music, mail. There's no actual concept once you took your eyes off the visuals.

That's an Android problem if you ask me; I fail to see any original launcher anymore. Actually, I had to wait for Microsoft to finally see something new.

No offence though, I support your effort and I hope it will look as nice as it looks on the screens.;)

Good work !
[Android Software Development] :
I'm being more contructive than that last two pages of "awesome, can't wait to see it".

I can appreciate what they are trying to do, but I don't see it panning out with the way they are trying to implement it. Hell, everything they're working with right now is going to have to be rebased within the next couple of weeks anyways if they really are messing around with the framework.
[Android Software Development] orangekid:
Well I do agree that "awesome, can't wait to see it" isn't very useful either, but it seems unlikely to me that someone taking this project this seriously hasn't already thought of a framework change in the very near future.

I guess you came off as a little harsh and presumptuous on what was actually occurring or what these guys are trying to do.

Another screenshot, more descriptions, and updates would be good so we can see the full scope of what this thing is going to be.

I can see where both you and the dev are coming from on this, I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
[Android Software Development] blaz.andrejcic:
This thread is made for project, not fighting. If you can't stop it go to "General discussion> OFF-Topic" or send PM.
[Android Software Development] donsasan:
Maybe you should create a twitter account to post updates once in a while, even if it is just boring dev stuff ;)
[Android Software Development] soneracar:
This lacks updates which makes loose interest. Even if out is something minor or something we wouldn't understand, it would keep me interested.
[Android Software Development] KoubaK:
Looking forward for more updates... deff interested...
[Android Software Development] ZED_pt:
Project still running??
[Android Software Development] Ubermicro13:
This looks like it will be a very good home replacement and its my style too!

Hoping for a release soon =)
[Android Software Development] :
It's not a home replacement

*insert disappointment here*
[Android Software Development] MrPadie:
JCopernicus,

In my books, a home replacement app is defined as an application that can be used to replace your current home app. That definition should be fairly straight forward and easy to work out.

So, in what context is this NOT a home replacement?

If you read through the first post, as I have asked you to do already, you will see that the project owner has stated:

Excuse me if I have a short fuse today, but I do not appreciate the little comments that you add to this discussion. Sure, some of what you have said has been of concern, and has been considered in the project as valid points, but adding little comments like "*insert disappointment here*" is not on, and is not tolerated in the XDA community. I shouldn't even have to give you this speech, as you seem to be a very frequent user here on XDA already.

If you have any issues regarding the project, please, have the decency to contact us via PM, and not bring down the project in the public's eye. A lot of work is going into this project, and having comments like this do not boost the teams morale in any way, especially when we have tried to explain it several times.

Let us not have this discussion again. If you feel you need to retaliate to this, please do so via PM. I apologize for making you a public example, but this stands again to inform the public that this is not simply a theme, or simply a bunch of widgets, or anything like that. In fact, the code is not based off of the Android Home sources at all. It is being written from scratch, and will serve as a completely different interaction method with your Android phone.

Kind regards,

MrP.
[Android Software Development] :
So then, this is a standalone .apk?

The op is filled the gills with information about "simple UI" design and no factual information.

From the little information scattered around, this reminds me of sense on winmo where htc attempted to hide the base OS, but it ended up halfassed because eventually people had to get back to the normal OS for things they didn't get around to skinning.
[Android Software Development] TheGrammarFreak:
No, it's not a standalone apk, it can't be installed on any system. Think of this as a whole new ROM.

Swyped from my Galaxy Tab
[Android Software Development] TreyM:
edit: nvm irrelevant post
[Android Software Development] :
Mr. Padie appears to be saying that it is.

So....anyone on the project care to clarify?(I'm not sure who is on the project aside from the OP and MrPadie to be honest)
[Android Software Development] MrPadie:
As it stands, the actual interface will be a standalone apk, or several apk's that will be installed. How the theming will pan out in the future, will remain the decision of the OP.

It is being designed to be installed on any device with a minimum screen resolution of 800x480. That said, we will try to integrate it into ROMs, just as ADW Launcher has been integrated into various ROMs. It is still a standalone application, but in certain ROMs, it's further integrated.

We will soon be opening a section in our private forums for the public where requests, opinions or questions can be shared. Having both XDA and our private forums to update seems tedious, hence we want it in one place. We shall keep you all posted on this in the next couple of days.

Regards, and sorry for the confusion,

MrP.
[Android Software Development] generalamerica:
So who do I believe?
[Android Software Development] TheGrammarFreak:
Mr P

Swyped from my Galaxy Tab
[Android Software Development] MrPadie:
I'm on the developement team, so you can trust me.
[Android Software Development] kanttii:
I must say I love this project!

So do you guys mean there will be no libraries etc. to handle additional stuff - or will there be two separated releases, installable applications and a whole ROM?

Do you have any timeline on the project? Say, like 4-12 months before going public? I would like to help in any way possible, but I only have a MDPI device. I will be getting a new one in few years, but as I've only had my Magic for just half a year.. Donation is still possible.

Also yet one thing. Will there be a graphics template and guidelines for developers who wish to make skins or applications for this? I'd be interested in to get them for some web-based stuff.

Good work, keep going!
[Android Software Development] Liquidice:
*Updated* 2010-12-01 - Video teaser.
[Android Software Development] flopez76:
I can't wait to see this released! Even a beta would make me happy. Well keep up the good work.
[Android Software Development] Dunnera:
omg

just saw the teaser and its still awesome!!!!

damn, i hope it won´t become a vapor ware and will be released anytime... I think we won´t see it this year but i hope we can see a beta at 1quartal 2011 :D
[Android Software Development] samleung:
Hooray for the teaser, it makes everything so much better.

That was me being sarcastic.
[Android Software Development] orangekid:
Is there a phone not called iPhone 4 that has a higher resolution than that? (since you said "minimum" i thought you were implying there was).
[Android Software Development] TheGrammarFreak:
UK galaxy tab is a phone... Also, with iPhone 4 everyone will start playing catchup, so Android phones will be released with that kind of resolution.

Swyped from my Galaxy Tab
[Android Software Development] oppip93:
this is a fantastic project! :D
[Android Software Development] h_zee13:
Just watched the teaser and it looks amazing....I wish I had practiced programming after graduating from my program, I kinda lost it now....would of liked being a part of this project
[Android Software Development] Danni3:
this looks amazing :]

the theme looks very similar to the htc1 phone designed by andrew kim >.< might i ask if you give him some recognition and say that the theme was inspired by him or something in the credits >.< sorry if i'm nitpicking
[Android Software Development] alphachung:
quite pretty idea.
[Android Software Development] atoore:
Im really liking this new UI but to be honest, I don't want to get my hopes so high. This is so damn nice to be true. Why dont you just make a video of your device ruining the UI? I will be so happy by then :D
[Android Software Development] kevin2516:
If you make this launcher compatible with all resolutions...like other home replacement apps e.g. launcher pro.I'm sure you'll make a lot of people happy. No point releasing for just phones with that resolution and up. Don't wanna leave the rest of the other people behind lol.
[Android Software Development] Doktaphex:
Video is looking super slick, I look forward to test driving when you get a BETA group going.
[Android Software Development] gbmitchell:
The concept video is very pretty. How is development going? Has anything actually been written/anything close to a working framework? Are you still looking for programmers?
[Android Software Development] :
I'm still not understanding the logic behind not supporting ldpi or mdpi devices.

:confused:
[Android Software Development] elmerendeiro:
Saw the video and it is very impressive...hope we'll be able to change the background image, and maybe switch to a black theme
[Android Software Development] mezo9090:
The video looks great!
[Android Software Development] miguelgr7:
Good ui thanks
[Android Software Development] krypticos:
cant wait for testing to start this will go on my nexus so fast. love to video. i would also love to see a video of this running on a device.
[Android Software Development] devwithzachary:
The milestone and droid are 480x854 so that's more than the 480x800 min ;)
[Android Software Development] malhznoi:
WOW! i really like this it's very nice.

Keep up a good work.
[Android Software Development] Jester23:
Looks Amazing! Keeping tabs on this!
[Android Software Development] tareq samman:
professional graphic designer help?

I love the idea you are working on! I think it has a big future coming ahead and I would happy joining you in order to help. I don't know anything about coding but I am a graphic, logo and web designer since 10 years now.

let me know if you are interested I will send you out more info along with a portfolio.

I have being doing something my own that "will change the way we use our androids" (I can't paste links here) so check out the thread: InsaneDroid, on droidforums, under custom rom > shadow rom

best luck,

Tareq
[Android Software Development] GoCkillaz:
Man, I would LOVE to test this out.

I currently have a MyTouchSlide. I'm in the process of getting an HD2 to put Android on that, too.
[Android Software Development] timg472:
looking Good

I would love to test the UI out
[Android Software Development] xndabox:
Just wanted to show my support, Thx for dreaming of this awesome idea
[Android Software Development] dspolen:
Very Very Nice! You guys are amazing...I wish i some coding experience to help with this. Keep up the awesome work and your thread is officially bookmarked and saved so I can check back often.