yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Tiemen_S:
*sigh*, the latest one is no good. At least not when installed as a .cab. I followed the instructions, it worked for a day. Then it didn't say anything when sending messages (which could mean they were send). I arrived home: no messages arrived before I did and my phone froze when I tried to acces "all messages". I had to do a hard reset and after booting it started to send them. Not the way to go :(.

Does anybody know what the latest STABLE (official or not) release of HTC is WITH the limited history loading?

EDIT: I don't want to sound disgraceful (instead: keep up the work you're doing!), but it's just my all in all feeling about having to search all the web for such a simple thing as an SMS app for a SMARTphone.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pyrorob:
Check it: New version from the latest leo rom!

Now this

IS

from an officially released htc rom. so some small additions to add some extra features from other client versions and some graphic changes, but basically, straight from the rom dump.

Pyrorob HTC Messaging Client v1.8.20193733.00.cab

And a few things btw... Now i know that thousands of people use the client on many various roms and 99.9% of them dont have any problems whatsoever (I keep track of download counts). So, why would one person, out of all the people that use the client, come here and report that its no good?

Would it be too much effort to think that maybe, just maybe, the issue isnt the client? that it could be any number of changes that the user has done to the rom there using.. changes that some other app did or something that some rom cook added/removed from that particular rom? You've got to boil it down and examine everything that you do or install...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] scriller:
thansk for the new version :) just installed it. seeing how it going.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] totalcmdext:
Please could you tell us the adaptation from the original?

Secure box is supported?

What are the graphic changes?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] scriller:
it's a good release. pretty fast and doesn't seem to suffer from the radom slow downs yet. there's something weird about it...if usually starts once you've sent about 1 hundred msgs to a person (mabe a counter problem?). but whats really crazy about it is that when typing in the client and it slows down and I switch to landscape the speed is back but when I switch back to portrait it goes right back to slow motion again....

EDIT: arggg!!! the random slow downs is in here too, I think it really has something to do with a message counter because when I passed the 1 hundred message sent mark to 1 contact I noticed it comes and goes....this morning I had around 209 msgs to a specific contact, after I installed the client, everything seemed soomth as silk, but now I have 335 msgs and the slow downs is there (it comes and goes but now it stays much longer).
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joshkoss:
Rob, your clients have always worked great for me! i cook them in and love them all!

Thanks for your work
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] deaconv:
I think i found a workaround for my lag after hitting about a hundred text messages..i found a swype cab on here that is apprantly an older version and when i loaded it up it does just fine no problems...just my work around..im running the latest kumar gtx rom on mine...but so far with that older version of swype it works great
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] totalcmdext:
I found one bug of this version.

When you put one contact in the VIP list of Secure Box then the notification of the SMS from this person is displayed in the Email Tab (email notification and in the lockscreen you can see the preview of the SMS)

Please correct it
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pyrorob:
ok.. i think i know exactly what caused this.. give me some time to test it out and ill re-upload to the original link..

update: ok try this, delete this key in the reg: [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\NOTIFICATIONMANAGER\

{2C23E3D2-ED6B-45a7-A77C-DBC4BEE8E5E5}

] and tell me if that does it.. (i dont have a separate device to send myself a text to test)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pyrorob:
Ok, so i figured something out..

The latest version of the client had secure mode and vip disabled by default and i enabled them in the cab i posted but, the messaging service, which is responsible for downloading the sms's and mms's didnt have the code in it for vip thou.. so it wouldnt download or alert that there was a new message if you had a contact in the vip.. so i downgraded/upgraded to teh previous service which works with all those features..

I Updated the main link so its fixed for new downloaders, and to save time for people who have already downloaded, download this:View attachment 415841

Run the OFF cab from the first post, restart, then install this.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pyrorob:
wow i dont understand u guys.. what? is there like a 4 hour window where everyone comes, downloads, leaves comments and thats it? nothing else for the rest of the day... wtf?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] anand12:
Please HELP!

Hi Pyrorob! I have always used your clients. Totally awesome! I just die for the Secure Box and VIP functions as I really need them! But sadly whenever Iv installed any version on Energy ROM, there is always a lag of about two seconds using the client. I have to keep holding down for a couple of seconds to activate aything on screen. It makes the amazing client unusable. It also makes other clicks slow. I mean, with the client open, I have to hold down the Start Menu button also to activate it. But once I minimize the client, everything goes back to normal. Please help, since I just cannot use the client on Energy ROMs (any build). :(

P.S. The client works great on every other ROM Iv tried.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jornbjorn:
with this new client i get the sent notification when sending a sms. and the icon in the taskbar is wrong. says mms, when i sent a sms
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Tiemen_S:
You mean me? I use only the simplicity ROM, which is basicly the cleanest ROM out there since it doesn't get any funny tricks or tweaks. It never gives me a single SOD, only now since replacing the client. Seems pretty boiled down to me. It was no reply meant to agitate you in any way, just stating that he client somehow froze (hence the edit). I was sending messages and afterwards the "sending" icon didn't show up in the taskbar. From other clients I'm used to no icon at all, so that's why it didn't make me realize anything. When I got home I tried to run it (click all messages), but it simply didn't. Everything else worked just fine, clicking all messages for the third time froze the phone, I put power out (power button) and it didn't go back on (meaning: SOD).

Also, I think many people try this client (or HCM thing), but don't reply, even when something's wrong. No reply doesn't automatically mean everything's fine ;).

I'm happy you do the work you're doing, really! It's just a signal this build didn't prove stable to me. Next time I'll add more info and options (try other build and compare or seek the problem in the client). That time it was just late and I'm short on time ;).

I'm going to try your latest dumped client and see what that does! I'll reply later next time, so I can describe problems better, if that helps?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pyrorob:
try and redownload the client, i made some modifications so it doesnt do the sent message, and also im assuming your using the color notification cab? yeah.. the generic notification icon doesnt specify if its a mms or sms so i edited it to just say msg.. that icon didnt show up before because i had the notification disabled for sms but enabled for mms.. so it matched with the icon
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pyrorob:
ok.. now keep in mind that this build while newer is a little different then older ones in that it comes from a wwe rom first of all and doesnt have all the features that the older builds had by default (for some reason) now i activated a few of the features (like secure box,vip) but some other things like the sending icon isnt active (by default thats the way they made it this time..) now i can activate some of the features (probably) by meshing together parts from the older client, but the key point here is getting the newer version out for people, left at default, theres no issue with the client, but little issues arise when activating features that dont come native with it..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] hg3atintin:
Pyrobob im using duttys latest sve rom and I would like to try your messaging cab. But will it make my messaing client into English or will it still be Swedish?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jornbjorn:
thanx, gonna try the new one=) using nrg's roms, but while the skinned windows sms client is ok, the htc one is better. dont really see a speed improvement when using the skinned windows one...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bobsbbq:
Is the latest version for cooks your new package or the original?

Just wondering the Name of the file does not have your name in front of it like the others.

I tried making my own Ext from the cab on the first post and it made my ROM not Flash correctly. I went back to the last one and all works ok.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pyrorob:
its english, i dont have a swedish translation
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pyrorob:
Yeah its the updated one, i just edited it to have my name..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] anand12:
please help me.

pyrorob i posted a few posts ago. my problem is genuine. could u please give me some guidance as to why that is happening? id really appreciate that. please read Post #597.

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pyrorob:
dude, i have no idea what causing that. is there some mod that your doing? adjusting the touch response time?if the client works fine on other roms and only does that on the enrgy rom for the hd, then im left to assume its something with that rom.. look ill talk to nrgz since i chat with him frequently and ask him if theres anything unique he does with hd roms.. does anyone else who has the hd, uses the energy rom and installs the client have the same issue?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] anand12:
Thanks a ton for answering :). No Iv never run any mods. Its as wierd to me as it seems to you. I am used to installing the messaging client immediately after a flash.

But only on Energy roms, they just dont work without a lag. So as you suggest it leads me to believe too that its Energy rom specific. No other rom has reflected such behaviour. When I install on Energy, everything including the Start Menu Key as well as the X button plus the notification bar... you name it... begins to lag. I have to hold down my finger for about 2 seconds then things work. But the moment I minimize the client, the touch response time is back to normal. Iv run through the registry like crazy to check any changes in values while running the messaging client, but none seem changed to me.

I do not know anyone who has an HD. :(

Life is difficult without your client so please help me with this Pyrorob.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] anand12:
Oh yes I think I must also mention here that the same behaviour is exhibitted by the messaging client build 2012 that has been posted by NRG himself in the addons area. That one also lags similarly. Is that not interesting?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pyrorob:
well theres no difference between his version and the standard version, except for changing green colored graphics to blue, same as i do. but no ones else in the hd energy rom thread runs a messaging client? why dont you post the question there as well.. maybe it has something to do with the radio installed.. im just fishing here
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] anand12:
Well but then I am using the same radio on other roms as well. Iv no had absolutely no problems then. I always Task 29 before flashing every other rom.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] cmd512:
Hey pyrorob, it seems like the Message tab in sense doesn't seem to show a "1" when I get a new message in. Not sure if it's the new ROM I installed yesterday from NRG or the latest version of your messaging client, but thought you might be able to shed a light on this...

Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pyrorob:
yeah.. i noticed that too, i thougt it might have ben some modification i did to something else that caused it.. ill look into it.

edit: ok, here, try this:View attachment MessageStore.cab install this and it will ask you to soft reset. let me know if that resolves it (i already tested it on mine and the number showed up, but id like to be sure cause i installed some other things as well...)

ugh, this new version seems to be a hassle and half.. i dont know what the hell made them release a new version with less features then the old..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] cmd512:
Ok, that fixed the new text not showing "1" issue... but now, everytime I go to "all messages" or a contact's messages, the message counter in Sense increments back to all stored text messages. In other words, my Sense Message tab is constantly showing 15 msgs now...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] cmd512:
OK, so I deleted all my old messages to see if it helped. After sending a message to someone, it now shows that there is a new message in the contact's tab, even though the only message in the conversation history is from me to her.

This version seems completely hosed... should I just install the previous version? That seemed to work with no issues with the previous NRG ROM.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pyrorob:
hmm. im starting to think that might have to be a possibility.. i just made a cab of the stock 3733 client with no modifications and even it doesnt show the message counter in the messaging button icon in home in cht... so something seems funky with stock the client... im goning to try some things and see if i can resolve it..

yeah im starting to think that while, you can add access to features like secure box and vip to this version that doesnt include it stock.. it wont work right cause proper compatibility with those features isnt coded into the exe's and dll's.. maybe ill just release the stock version so people can use and post a seperate cab with the modded mui's so people can activate the secure box/vip feature if they so choose...

it really befuddles me as to why htc would choose to not include those features by default with wwe versions of the client... not to mention the message sending/deleting/moving notifications..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] cmd512:
Agreed, a big step backwards for HTC if your ask me. I just reinstalled the previous version... notification/counters are working as expected.

One interesting note though... 3733/latest version definitely sends messages faster. With the previous version that I'm using right now, you'll see that little time/wait symbol show up for a split second before the message completely sends. 3733 always seemed instantaneous as it never showed that symbol. Who knows, maybe it was missing that notification too!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pyrorob:
well, at least when one of the newer clients get leaked out in one of the asian roms it should incorporate any of the speed tweaks of this one and have the extra features
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pyrorob:
well, heres the stock version btw, for anyone who wants it, View attachment 417815

im thinking that the way that the wwe version and the non-wwe version report the message count is diffrent between the two and that the message notifications in wwe cooked roms are configured to read the way that the non-wwe version reports the message count, thats why even with this stock wwe version theres that issue.. thats what i got...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] TKruzze:
Problem with: pyrorob Tmo HD2 Settings_3.14.cab

Moved to PM
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] cmd512:
Why not PM pyrorob? Why would you post this in a completely unrelated thread?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pyrorob:
yeah... i already replied to him, it was an already identified issue and had to do with nrgz reverting the driver base in his leo roms back to 2.10
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] samarain:
In the Energy.TOPAZ.21681.Sense2.5.DinikGlass.Cookie.2.0.Oct.08 when install this client, dont appear new sms in the notification bar or in the slider bar, only in taskbar :(, can fix this?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shaggydabbydo:
Anyone know the registry key to only pull back x number of SMS's in Conversation mode?

I've found what it is for Traditional: Software\HTC\HTCMessaging\Harvey\MaxMessagesForOnePage
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pyrorob:
yeah, thats already been identified as an issue with this latest version, something in it doesn't report message counts right.. ive tried a few tricks to resolve it, but they have there trade off's.. either install the previous version or wait until this can get fixed or a new version comes up..

theres is none.. that an identified issue that been looking to be resolved.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pyrorob:
ok, i just tried making a cab from the client package in the new tmo rom that just leaked and the weird thing is that even thou its the same version now the notification shows up which shows the message number, but it auto dismisses itself in about 3 seconds... anyone have an idea as to what can cause a notification to auto dismisses itself?

edit: ya know.. i just uninstalled the client and wen t back to the default winmo sms client and sent myself a sms and while there was a notification, the counter in cht 2.0 didnt show anything... so im wondering if the issue is the cht...?

edit2: well i just tried installing the new stock client i made on my tp2 which has cht 1.8 and the notifications worked perfectly (shown unread count and everything), while i also noticed that when only running the built in winmo sms client, the unread count wasnt shown but the notification was ans also i just read that some other people are having an issue with teh unread count in cht 2, so this leads me to believe the unread count not being shown is a bug in cht 2.0... im going to install the new cht 2.0 energy rom tonight on my hd2 and see what happens..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] cmd512:
Sorry man, never used CHT 2.0. Been on only CHT "Classic" 1.8.5, and I definitely had the notification issue...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pyrorob:
well, if you want try this: View attachment 419296 this is what i used from the tmo rom, it doesnt have secure box or vip thou..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] anhphe076:
Yes! Add new Skin for HTC MCL new versions. I've porblem with v20193733 & v10193737.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] cmd512:
Don't bother with the secure stuff... trying now! :)

UPDATE: HEY HEY!... this one works beautifully! But... why???? :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pyrorob:
i dont have a clue.. its the same version as the other one, same wwe mui files, but the hash values for the dll's are different between the two.. honestly it doesnt make sense to me.. if they were the same, which you would expect with them being the same version, there hash values would match... im wondering if theres ever the so small chance that the client that came on the new wwe leo htc rom was screwed up in some way..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pyrorob:
and wha...? is that a fix? a recommendation as to what you want changed? if you mean i should change the skin.. there is no skin.. theres the graphics that are included with the client and theres the xml coding which is hard coded into the client... only a few thinks are controlled by separate xml files, the settings page, image resizer box, waiting page, password config page.. now i have ben able to skin those.. but who wants a specially customized skinned settings page? yeah i admit it looked nice when i had the background looking like the beach in the settings page... but pointless, no?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] cmd512:
That's what it seems like, really strange if it's a last last last second change...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] skynet08:
I installed the client on my HD running an energy ROM with CHT 1.8.5.

Unfortunatly nothing happens after soft reset.

It shows me SMS in Sense but I can't open a new one or answer an existing one.

Did I do something wrong?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] smithisize:
Hey Pyrorob, do you know if you could ever enable thread pausing? I hate how it loads all messages at once. Kills my rhodium lol

Regards

Smith
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pyrorob:
thats a feature of the client, some versions have it, some dont, mostly the ones from non-wwe roms have it (they seem to have all the new features) it cant be coded into the clients since we dont have access to the source code.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Minnesinger:
Hey, Rob -

Can you think of why I'd be able to send messages, but not receive them? I discovered this yesterday and thought it might be a consequence of the 20193733 MC. I deleted your original 3733, installed the new stock 3733, yet still not able to receive. I then installed 20192421 and, again, I'm able to send, but not receive.

Just to make sure it wasn't something carrier related, I popped my SIM in my TP2 which is set up w/o the HTC MC and I can send/receive no problem. Any advice as how I might remedy? Many thanks.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] smithisize:
Thanks for the quick response! That's a shame :/ oh well, I guess I'll just have to wait til HTC releases that for WWE users... or learn a new language. New language would probably be quicker XD

Thanks again

Regards

Smith
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pyrorob:
well the messaging service is what handles the downloading of messaged from your provider, basically it works like a push mail service, the provider sends a notification to your device which the messaging service picks up then tells the push client app to download.. if the service isnt running, no incoming message.. also in: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\PushRouter\Registrations\ByGenericId\ theres 2 keys there that tell the client what kind of push messages to respond to, sitext and sltext (youll see them listed next to "params") if those arent there then that to will prevent you from downloading messages too..

Actually, use one of the last clients.. a while ago (you can look back in the threads posts) someone mentioned that the client was pausing while displaying messages, which suprised me, because i had believed up to that point the other group releasing the client had added it somehow to there client.. but seeing as how mine had it too lead me to the realization that all this time i had thought this other group was editing the clients files somehow (which is impossible because you might be able to disassemble the dll's and exe's but without the source code you would end up with a malfunctioning or inoperable exe after re-compiling, as i understand it) but that all the new features that they said they had "added" were in fact just additions that htc had added... i was really frustrated until i figured that out.. but fyi, almost all the previous versions were ones i translated from Chinese roms.. (except for maybe the first 2 or 3)