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[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] dunk7:
Quick update, found another dealer that had the cables in stock so cancelled my order with 1800mobiles. After placing my order with the new company, got an email from customer service that before they send the cable, I should check with Samsung to see if they have the software update available for my version of the galaxy so that the cable will work. So now there is a mysterious software update...anyone have or heard of this update?
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] BlackDino:
take a screen shot.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] dunk7:
Here's what one re-seller of the cable sent me:

PLEASE NOTE: This cable will NOT work on the Samsung Galaxy S phones without a software update. This information is per Samsung tech support. Please contact Samsung before purchasing this cable to determine if you can get the update for your model phone. Samsung ECC1HU0BBEB Micro USB to HDMI Video Cable for the Samsung Galaxy S Series, SCH-i500 Fascinate, SGH-i897 Captivate, SFH-T959 Vibrant, SPH-D700 Epic 4G. Samsung HDMI Cable allows you to connect your Samsung Galaxy S phone to an HDTV with this Micro USB to HDMI AV Cable. ECC1HU0BBEB HDMI Cable plugs directly into the micro USB port and connects to a HDMI port on your TV or Display Monitor. Share pictures, slideshows and videos in high-definition quality. An Additional built-in Micro USB port lets you charge your phone while its connected to your TV for continuous charging.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] TheBeano:
What's the point? The HDMI signal comes out of the 30-pin dock connector on the Tab, not the USB port.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] jblade1000:
uh been there done that:p That was so post number 84, 88, 105, and 106 ago :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Kangal:
Technically a USB->HDMI is possible and it has been done before (Windows7). But the thing is USB2.0 is about 1/2 the required speed, so we can quickly eliminate 1080p out of the picture as well as 5.1 surround sound. So is 720p @30fps + stereo sound possible. Technically yes, but only the quadcore processors can even get close to handle such a thing, because USB is hardwired into the CPU not the GPU. So on the Galaxy S it should be impossible.

The only way it can be possible is if the microUSB is connected directly into the GPU, in which case it would a very awkward type of connection and its most likely (near certain) that this is not the case.

So hope shines very dim.

^That is probably a bs statement, the product will not work and this statement is used to shift the blame from the seller (who mislead you) to Samsung. I'm suprised Samsung hasn't answered to customers about these cables. Yes, in the froyo update they may include drivers that were absent and include new options, but if the hardware limitation is apparent it wont matter what they release it wont work.

I truly hope that I am wrong (which is a very rare occurance - think Sheldon Cooper), HDMI on the Galaxy S just makes sense, more-so than the EVO 4G.

So dunk7, can you post back to here if the cable worked and which ROMs you tried it with (stock 2.1, official 2.2 etc)? <<Cheeers!
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] :
As per my favorite sitcom from the '90s

THIS STINKS! THIS IS TOTAL BS!
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] jblade1000:
I dont mess with custom ROMS or custom kernels, but I can vouch for the fact that the cable doesn't work with stock 2.1 or rooted 2.1 on the Vibrant
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] zulu99:
for work you can compile MHD_SiI9234.c inside the kernel sii9234 is for hdmi output
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] AlbertSmart:
Is it possible that they just use extUSB to transmit PAL/NTSC instead and the dongle makes the conversion to HDMI? The quality will suffer and motivation for HDMI also disappears. Also without surround sound there isn't much advantage over the SGS TV out.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Kangal:
Well in that case what's happening is:

CPU capture's VGA (640x480) screenshot's of the phone at ~24fps.

This image is upscaled to 1080p without any quality increases.

Stereo sound is easilty bypassed from the sound module to the CPU to the microUSB to the fake HDMI cable and unto your digital (TV) device.

So you end up with giant pixel blocks on your screen, and a choppy video (at times) with sound that's quite.

This is nothing different to the TV-out connection you achieve from the headset jack (and Samsung's settings).

... damn it!
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] TheBeano:
It is possible in theory because the USB port is connected to a fancy switching device (FSA9480) that could potentially switch audio and video onto the USB port if it was wired up that way. But Samsung developers have said that they don't use this chip for video or audio, after all why bother when it's already available on the headphone jack output?
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] sackynuts:
Aaaaanyways.. I just got my nokia cable and am i the only one who finds the tv-out quality really bad??
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] symanuk:
you can not do hdmi with usb !!!!!! Read read read !!!:d
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] ParanoidDK:
I am pretty sure he is refering to the analog nokia mini-jack tv-out cable.

sackynuts it is not perfect with the nokia mini-jack cable but i dont feel it is so bad again on my sgs.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Superroach:
Shame it was never figured out, guesses we were a bit too optimistic

, oh well!
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] MatNi:
Nokia CA-156

And how about Nokia CA-156 + some standart male-male HDMI cable? :confused:

In future..if somehow SGS would support this kind of TV-out, couldn't be this reduction used?
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] dahas:
TV-Out pinout

Here is the pinout for tv-out cable for samsung galaxy S

See attachment.

The corect one who works is the first one from table
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] jutezak:
If I had to design a HDMI out to connect to USB I would do the following:

- Build an h.264/xvid/etc decoder that can take data from USB and sent it to the big screen over HDMI

- Send data to that decoder from the phone.

That data can be a movie that is piped in straight from the phone storage.

Or is we need the phone menus, we can use the real time encoder of the camera to send the data.

Things that are problematic are video with an overlay, or using the camera to film at the same time as watching the camera user interface on TV.

But that it is possible with the hardware there is does not mean it actually gets done.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] xxtokerxx:
I wonder if any of these can be modded:

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/225049?utm_source=google&utm_medium=products

http://www.google.co.uk/products/ca...K8Ism6-QaW_dW0Cw&sa=title&ved=0CAkQ8wIwADgA#p
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Stevethegreat:
You mean (the above) recognizing the phone as an SD/usb-flash card and play its content? Then what good that be, just load you movie/picture/music files on your SD and you're done with it.

What we need is a full integration of the Android Interface to the TV-out function, in the way that it has already be done through the 3.5mm jack, only -this time- in a higher res (720p)...I doubt that the big S would care about such a feature / create such an accessory.

If the above was to be done combined with (the) full bluetooth mouse/kb support would give you an (almost) desktop feel to your phone whenever you were to connect it with an (ample sized) monitor/TV...Now (such a feature) it's hardly there, given how low-res 480p is...
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] brunes:
Why do people keep spreading this drivel. Please go back and read this thread.

TL;DR - Just because something uses a USB port doesn't mean it has to use the USB protocol or anything remotely like it. The chipset in the SGS HAS THE ABILITY to output HDMI via 5 pins - this is an indisputable fact. They even have a freaking picture of exactly this scenario (using the USB as an HDMI port) in the datasheet

http://www.datasheetdir.com/SII9290+Video

Does Samsung have it wired up properly to the Mini USB port, and is there a proper cable that has the required pinout (any such cable probably has to set some resistance between two of the pins to activate the function), and is it possible to get the SiI9234 driver to work? That is what has been undetermined.

I really wish this thread would stay on track with posts on research into getting the USB HDMI working, and stop posts about how it is not possible (which is unknown), and the mini-DIN connector (which has nothing to do with it).

I think the first step would be to get the SiI9234 driver built for our kernel. At that point try a bought cable. If it didn't work, the second step would be to use the datasheet and two chopped cables to try to make your own according to the spec'ed pinouts.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Stevethegreat:
@brunes: I think that the (Galaxy) Tab already has the HDMI out feature enabled (through the dock) and since it uses the same hardware as the SGS line, it seems that it is/was Samsung's decision not to include/enable the same function to the SGS line.

Which is a bit of a pity because -IMO- HDMI out is far more useful to a (more portable) phone form factor than to anything else...
[HD2 Android SD Development] aussiebum:
Noice! I was exactly thinking about this since I started trying out Android on HD2 couple of days ago.

Might backup my data.img and give this method a go.
[HD2 Android SD Development] GodsGift:
This is awesome!

Please can chefs cook this into their builds....

My biggest problem (other than no USB and no bluetooth) is this space limitation.

Well done you!

GG
[HD2 Android SD Development] Kev007:
info moved to first post...
[HD2 Android SD Development] Nightstorm99:
works beautifully!!!

Thank you
[HD2 Android SD Development] Demon_man:
How would you fancy doing each version as testers for us, as some people on here dont use Linux?? :) and is there a way you can provide a screen shot showing the phone running android with more storage?
[HD2 Android SD Development] futureshock:
any changes to extend a used img. file?!

also sofar my linux knowing is this command:

dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M count=256 >> data.img

just writes zeros to the end of the data.img...

shouldn't this work with a used file too?

another idea (can't try because mac osx didn know the resize2fs commands..)

dd if=/blabla/data.img bs=1M count=512 > data_new.img ?!

so it just copies the hole data.img in a new file ...
[HD2 Android SD Development] Demon_man:
holy COW great work you clever little bunny lol, maybe you should message the devs see if they wanna add this to there work
[HD2 Android SD Development] Kev007:
I was thinking that too...

I tried it at least 3 times, but Android still displayed 0.00 MB free memory (heh heh, i know :D)

Maybe because the system registers the size of the mount after the initial boot and never bothers checking it?!?
[HD2 Android SD Development] futureshock:
any change to extend the img inside android?!

maybe there are also the commands built in the linux kernel?
[HD2 Android SD Development] Kev007:
I doubt it since the file is mounted and no longer appears as a .img file to the system

But a good idea nonetheless. If it were possible, I would be kicking myself for missing this!
[HD2 Android SD Development] Demon_man:
was just thinking will it still work for us that dont use an 8gig card??? because thats what you have will it be looking for 8gig or is it just gonna use a gig from any card??
[HD2 Android SD Development] Kev007:
I don't think so.

You will need at least a 2GB card if you want to use the .img file I posted (since the file itself takes up 1GB)

If you want, I could also make a 512MB one!
[HD2 Android SD Development] futureshock:
ok... no resize2fs in linux kernel... tried it ...

maybe it could be built in while running.. .but this is far beyond my knowledge...

i tried all now todo this on mac... but no changes to extend the ext2(3) FS... no tool found.. got it to mount but no way to resize...

for now i'm looking at a virt. linux machine... but didn't found something usable with vmtools installed to get directory sharing ...
[HD2 Android SD Development] Kev007:
You could use a Ubuntu Live CD, it boots Linux and lets you use it without installing anything

but why the had work when I've just uploaded the file you've been trying to create? :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] futureshock:
still on desire v5

and i want to keep my files!
[HD2 Android SD Development] Kev007:
since you said you could mount it, why not copy and paste your files into the data.img for desire v5

I can't guarantee that it'll work...but it's worth the try. amirite?
[HD2 Android SD Development] futureshock:
uhm ;D good question at all...

will try this...

also just strugeling around with the ubuntu live cd ... :rolleyes:
[HD2 Android SD Development] nzxtneo:
This is awesome, thanks!
[HD2 Android SD Development] Demon_man:
I had a problem everytime I have used Android it has known I was on Virgin UK but when I use this updated image it thinks im on T-mobile :confused:

and if you want it here is a torrent for the update you made
[HD2 Android SD Development] bangsters:
this should work in mac too right, since mac is linux/unix based? i get an error

dd: bs: illegal numeric value

nevermind got it to work... it doesn't take 1M, but I can do 1024 and just multiply to get the desired amount :)

thanks!
[HD2 Android SD Development] Kev007:
heh heh, that's an error on my part

check out v1.1, it *should* fix the issue and remove any leftover settings from my device...I hope I wasn't logged into Google or Facebook when I made the first image :eek:

report back!
[HD2 Android SD Development] :
ok ill re up this version as a torrent then :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] birkoffsjunk:
Here are a couple of fast VBN mirrors ;)

http://www.vbnfiles.com/xda/birkoffsjunk/1GB data.img for darkstone_desire_v5.7z

http://www.vbnfiles.com/xda/birkoffsjunk/1GB data.img for darkstone_HD2Froyo_v1.7z
[HD2 Android SD Development] pongster:
Offtopic here :) could anyone tell me the command to "root" a rootfs.img? (Dan's Froyo with Sense RC1 to be exact)

I know how to mount it and all but I don't know exactly how to root it. tried chmod 6755'ing the /system folder but the build won't boot (Dan's Froyo with Sense RC1).
[HD2 Android SD Development] futureshock:
dd works yes..

but you cant extend the ext2 FS because you didn't have resize2fs bin on mac!

just check a few post of me before!!

Thx Kev for the Links...

but could it be possible that you messed something up?!

Download the data.img file corresponding to your build or resize your own by using the instructions at the bottom of this post.

1GB data.img v1.1 for DarkStone's Froyo v1!

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7684410/xda-developers/1GB data.img_v1.1 for darkstone_HD2Froyo_v1.rar

1GB data.img v1 for DarkStone's Froyo v1!

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7684410/xda-developers/1GB data.img for darkstone_HD2Froyo_v1.rar

http://www.vbnfiles.com/xda/birkoffsjunk/1GB data.img for darkstone_HD2Froyo_v1.7z Thanks to birkoffsjunk for the mirror!

1GB data.img for DarkStone's Desire v5!

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7684410/xda-developers/1GB data.img for darkstone_HD2Froyo_v1.rar

http://www.vbnfiles.com/xda/birkoffsjunk/1GB%20data.img%20for%20darkstone_desire_v5.7z Thanks to birkoffsjunk for the mirror!
[HD2 Android SD Development] :
ok when i first booted any version on Android before on first boot i had a sim card notification and it would tell me im on virgin and grab my settings since using either of these patched versions its gone, and if i search for a network i get every network except virgin :(
[HD2 Android SD Development] Kev007:
@futureshock - Links fixed! thanks for the heads-up!

thats a very peculiar issue :S

I can't do more than link you to v1.1 and tell you to reformat :(

v1.1 is basically the same image as the one released by DarkStone, just with an extra 768MB of blank zero's attached to the end.

sorry, but you're gunna need the help of the community on this one...
[HD2 Android SD Development] sopL87:
I'm on DarkStone's Desire V5 with zImage (23 July) and rooted rootfs.img. 1GB data.img from first post not working for me:(
[HD2 Android SD Development] :
trying that now we'll see fingers crossed :) great job by the way
[HD2 Android SD Development] mr_billionaire:
ok, i was wondering for a while now.

the internal storage is actually stored on the card and not the phone itself right?

so if i used a 32gb card and edited the data.img to say 25gbs it will work?
[HD2 Android SD Development] methree:
512MB Dan froyo image?!

Could you please make a Dan froyo (no sense) 512MB image? Who needs 900mbs for tiny Android games/apps anyways? :rolleyes:

Thanks sir!
[HD2 Android SD Development] futureshock:
what is the problem ?!
[HD2 Android SD Development] sopL87:
After booting screen phone hangs up on htc animation. When booting, there was something that it can't create system folders. I also checked 1GB data.img with darkstone's Froyo build and everything was all right.
[HD2 Android SD Development] futureshock:
i'll actually testing the 1GB Desire V5 image...

i just copied all the files from my currently used (and fully loaded) data.img to the new 1GB data img!

just reports if that works... (seached last night for an tool to do this on windows too, but just found FS Drivers to read/write ext2 phy. HDDs... nothing found to mount img files with ext2 filesystem on it....

also i have to repor that the Froyo 1GB img File not working correctly with the mattc Froyo w. Sense ROM... just after starting i get floaded with force close messages... no change to use it... pressed close, message apears again promptly!
[HD2 Android SD Development] futureshock:
hey ok can confirm!

Desire V5 1gb Image just resets itself again and again to the animation screen...

please kev give the image another try...

maybe a bit smaller?! say 768mb... eventually the 1gb is the problem.. don't know..
[HD2 Android SD Development] Kev007:
I've got a working 512MB image for the Desire v5 build, screenshot and file are being uploaded!

Technically, yes. But I don't think that you'd need that much
[HD2 Android SD Development] futureshock:
you're the man! :)

i'm just juggling around with my own image to resize it in ubuntu (just wanna try... but no luck yet..., didn't even got the img file into ubuntu.... no space on disk blabla...)
[HD2 Android SD Development] Kev007:
copy the file onto a pendrive or onto your mac's harddrive and change directories while working with command prompt.

if you get it up and running, could you help out with making more images for more builds? :D
[HD2 Android SD Development] pongster:
Have you found a 1gb image that works with mattc's Froyo + Sense?
[HD2 Android SD Development] futureshock:
sure i can help you...

but there a not really more builds out...

just the froyo sense build from mattc ... (should be based on darkstone froyo, but the big img did not work...)

how are you creating these file?! just launch android 1 time that it just creates the data.img ?! and then resize it?! or did i understand something wrong?

BTW:

resizing my own image did worked so far! it booted at least...

edit:

it worked!!!

free space available: 271 MB

before i was really near the end... had sometime the warning that i can't install another app and had to deinstall others....

:)
[HD2 Android SD Development] Kev007:
i'll start working on that build (but my internet is slow as hell)

for darkstone's builds, the image file comes in the archive when you download it. otherwise i let it boot once so it can get created, it's easier than doing it from scratch....and it seems to work!

BTW, data.img files aren't interchangeable between builds but i'm up for requests!
[HD2 Android SD Development] futureshock:
have you ever tried to use a completly zeroed data.img on first bootup?
[HD2 Android SD Development] Kev007:
yea...nothing happens. the ticker just keeps blinking

but im not sure whether that happens on all builds
[HD2 Android SD Development] futureshock:
too bad at all..

but i think the problem is that if the file exists the kernel want to boot something from it..

or maybe a zero data.img file did not hve a ext2 Filesystem on it...

(the data.img file is just something like iso image from cd... a file for us but with a hole filesystem into..) may its possible to create a partition into the data.img and format it with ext2 ...

than it should be possible to have a clean data.img ...

i know that this should work in some way but don't know how exactly! cant remember... to long that i played with linux so much... (LPIC certificate just gone a few years allready :))

btw:

i have resized my data.img a second time... now near the 1gb ... it still working! now nearly 700mb free available storage! fine fine...

that should last for ages!

anyway Kev you have PM from me!
[HD2 Android SD Development] Cobra2:
WOOOOOWWW

Great done, Big thanx :-)

Before 148Mb

After 880Mb

:) Now thats what i'am talking about ;)
[HD2 Android SD Development] hendr1k:
sorry I am kinda lost, i don't have any linux installed in my computer, so i can just download data.img and replace mine with that right?

2nd that dan3j1l v.1 is it base with sense or non sense, afaik dan3j1l release 2 froyo 1 with sense and 1 without sense tx.
[HD2 Android SD Development] Kev007:
i think it'd be sorta hard to have android boot an empty data.img file without modifying anything more than the image.

here's my reasoning:

when i booted a clean version of dan1j3l's froyo, the order of operations went something like this:

finding partition

creating new data store

if we copy the resized image onto the mem. card, it wouldn't create the data files inside the virtual partition since it gets skipped when the partition is found

additionally, i think i caught a glimpse of

file system check every 20 boots or 180 days, whichever comes first

maybe it solves itself then? lol

since we don't know exactly what happens between the two steps (or if i'm interpreting those two messages incorrectly), we can still try and create a empty, but formatted, image.

open to more ideas! :D

1) yep, just copy&replace. if that doesn't work, you'll need to use a fresh copy of your build.

2) it's the non-sense version (haha)

i'll fix the text
[HD2 Android SD Development] pi_mento:
Upgrading to Cotulla_zImage_PANEL_ON_OFF_ON_OFF_OFF_GSOD did the trick for me.

Android has never been so smooth....
[HD2 Android SD Development] futureshock:
Hi,

currently trying to start with a clean data.img file...

did someone know how much inodes the "create datastore" process formats the data.img file?!

thx
[HD2 Android SD Development] futureshock:
hey there, i found something new out!!

it should be possible to change the startup script (maybe executed on first launch) do create a bigger data.img file...

i recently had no space left on sd card and booted a fresch copy of android...

while "creating data store" i ran out auf space on sdcard...

the typical dd message apears that theres no space left on /SDCard/Android/data.img ... and so on..

so this means the data.im creating process is soft (or maybe hardcoded) in an init script?!

it should normally be easy for the dev too change this!
[HD2 Android SD Development] BoneMo:
thx but...

thanks for 1GB for mattc Leo + Froyo w/Sense RC1.2 but now i see that there is a newer version mattc Leo + Froyo w/Sense RC1.3a now...can you also make 1 GB space for this ? or can I use the same file ?
[HD2 Android SD Development] bangsters:
That will not work. The sdcard is fat32, you can only create a data.img with max size of 3.9GB if you go 4gb it will not copy, I tried it couple times lol....

Now I have a problem with mine though....

I create a 3.9GB data.img file. it shows in my phone that i have 3.5GB of available phone memory (meaning it works). But if I go to market and install anything I get an error saying there is not enough disk space to install this item...
[HD2 Android SD Development] Cobra2:
Yes u can :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] hendr1k:
hey guys can some one upload dan3j1l version with sense, I tried non sense on but really doesn't fit with my hd2, but it work great, same with darkstone build.

but if anyone kindly upload dan3j1l version with sense 512/1gb I will greatly appreciate it tx :D