yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Minnesinger:
Well, I've used it for a full day and I think it's great! Much faster than all of the previous builds, and I appreciate having all the buttons back in their proper places.

I too have experienced some battery drain on the last 2 .cabs, but I'm still undecided as to whether it's the Messaging Client or the 24631 build from NRG. Perhaps it's a combo of both?

Now if I could only get the HTC Album to match the performance and functionality of the latest Messaging Client... ;-)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pyrorob:
2 things, nrg already said that hes finding the 24361 build to be a battery drain and try this album version: View attachment 397699 I find it to be faster...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Minnesinger:
As always, I appreciate your replies. 2 things back at ya: Yeah, I saw NRG's comment about 24631 being a battery killer. Do you know if today's 24634 will/would be any better?

Second, I tried that Album .cab and it still wouldn't let me select any other albums other than the default. Could there be any sort of incompatibility/conflict with the MC as they're somewhat tied together via MMS (if that makes any sense...?)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pyrorob:
no i havent heard anything about 24361 yet.. and i use that album and the latest messaging client.. and i dont have any issues.. what default album? i can go to any folder on my device (internal/storage card) with no problems..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Minnesinger:
Okay, first let me qualify that I geeked out hard with my phone this weekend and played and mucked with things that are well beyond my pay grade. Nonetheless, even blind squirrels find a few nuts and through a lot of trial and error my phone is better than ever! I mention this because I had a lot of plates spinning, and I may not be perfectly clears as to what was running with what... not to mention when and how...

Anyhoo, when I installed your 2016 .cab, it would open to 'Camera Shots', but wouldn't let me choose other folders with photos/icons/images. I would click the 'Album' soft-key and nothing would happen. (Incidentally, it's this same behavior with the cooked-in Album from the ROM in my sig that has led me to seek solutions.) Currently I'm running your 'Test' 2018 Album. It works as I can select from multiple folders/albums, but it's really sluggish (every other function on my phone runs like liquid lightening!) and there's no 'X' key to close it out. Of course there's the right hard-key, but I'd prefer to have a soft-key on the screen.

I'm the first to concede that in the grand scheme my concerns over 'shortcomings' are small, if not petty. Then again, if any of us were content with the mundane we wouldn't be here on the hunt for every latest tweak and hack!

Thanks again for all of your efforts and for sharing them with us!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pyrorob:
well, the 2018 album doesnt have the abilty to sync with online albums but the 2016 does, its the same thing where it doesnt have the x to close, but i "could" modify the xml to have it.. also what are you removing out of the nbh ? maybe thats the issue.. have yout tried just flashing the rom with no modification?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Minnesinger:
Honestly, that was my first thought, which is that I went in and mucked around with things that I have no business messing with and screwed the pooch in the process. So, yes, I flashed the ROM 'as-is' and tested both .cabs and the results were the same (oddly, to my relief...!)

Fact of the matter is that I was pretty meticulous with anything I extracted from the .nbh. My general philosophy was "if in doubt, leave it in." Further, anything I did delete/extract was relegated to a separate folder just in case something which I believed to be unnecessary turned out to be needed. So I'm about 99.99% confident I didn't pull anything out that would disaffect the ROM or any of its sub-components.

Also, an after-thought to my 2 earlier comments on the shortcomings, is that the screen resolution of the album as a whole -- not just the images themselves -- seems to be off. To my eyes, the album appears a touch hazy/grainy.

Thanks for indulging me...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sam brown:
thanks pyrorob for the new messaging app. works good on lastest eneryg rom.

If you could modify the xml for the x in the 2016 album cab i would try it out.

thanks for all your work
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] onesolo:
Hmm, I don't think so, cause I'm still with 23127 from NRG 28th August and after the uninstall I don't suffer no more any battery drain.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tlccksww:
how can i installed the sms client if i dont have the manila?

i only have the WM sms client...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] aamadorj:
Same here!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Maringer:
I'm using the 24631 ROM and did suffer from the battery drain with the 3325 version of the HTC Messaging client.

I have since removed this and installed Wajk's HyPer messaging cab (which I believe uses one of the 2017 versions released by pyrorob) and this doesn't seem to exhibit the same battery problem. Performance also seems better than the 1.8.3325 version on my Blackstone, too!

Still has the same old problem of reduced screen sensitivity if you send an individual SMS to somebody but this problem doesn't occur if you're sending a message through the HTC contacts screen or replying to a message.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pyrorob:
ok, after examining his cab, i made some changes, let me know if it affects the battery usage.. View attachment 398198
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] cmd512:
Just wanted to say thanks pyrorob. My cooked in EnergyROM HTC Messenger keeps breaking after installing Lotus Notes Traveler for work, but installing your Messenger fixed that right up.

I am seeing battery drain after installing the beta version from your first page and will try out the version you posted here. Quick question, do I need to uninstall the previous beta version first?

UPDATE: Nevermind, just saw your upgrade instructions... thank you! Will feedback results after installing this new version.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] cmd512:
So pyrorob, that latest version you posted is all sorts of bad news! Can't comment on battery drain, but:

1) Opera 10 would freeze the entire phone on launch. Had to soft reset everytime using the side button. Freezing stopped after I uninstalled your cab.

2) After uninstall, I now have 2 htc messaging tabs for each contact. One on the left leads to a black screen while the one on the right is the original htc messaging cooked into the EnergyROM I'm using.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pyrorob:
see im pretty sure that not due to any of the changes i made.. seeing as how what i changed was the send retry and message check times... basically the timings nothing involving teh interface.. so i suspect that either a uninstall/install step was missed...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] cmd512:
Weird, I'm using EnergyROM with no additional add-ons, so I simply uninstalled and soft-reset. Not sure why there's that odd graphics glitch now, but I can confirm Opera 10 isn't hosed anymore. Gonna try the original beta version to see if it crashes Opera 10... might have nothing to do with the tweaks you made if it does!

Will report back.

Update: Ugh, you're right, not the tweaks you made... froze the phone up almost right away. Opera 10 usually loads with the spinning icon, then blank screen, and loads to 9 tab quick menu. Phone just hung up at the blank screen this time... :\ I'm going to try the previous 3325 version to see if that fixes it.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] warmy18:
Anyone had the problem where large text's don't come through?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] onesolo:
I'm not using any HTC Messaging for some quite days from now, and I must say that propabably HTC Messaging is a huge battery drainer for sure.

I now can say that my baterry device lasts more time that when I used a good (no drain in battery) version of HTC Messaging

Probably these last versions of HTC Messaging in conjunction of the latest versions of Manila are not adequate for the HTC Touch HD (due probably some lack of driver support)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Maringer:
Unfortunately, I don't have the time to test this right now.

One question, however, do you have any idea why there is a lack of screen responsiveness on the Touch HD when installing these newer messaging clients? As previously mentioned, if you are replying to a message or access a thread through the HTC contacts, typing works mostly correctly (although it is impossible to use XT9 due to keyboard lag which means spaces are missed out). However, if you try to send a message to a new recipient outside the thread, you need to press and hold for a couple of seconds to get response from the keyboard or screen which makes typing all but unusable. Most frustrating.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] lionedas:
So is there a version that works with Sprint mms yet?

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Nihonno:
Overall performance increase for HD2

I'd have to say that I've had an overall performance increase on my phone since this upgrade. I had no idea that I could attribute battery drain from the messaging client. I have, indeed noticed that my battery life has increased. The phone no longer has pauses from incoming text messages. The loading of text is about the same as my last installed upgrade (I believe it was 2016) which is good. Securebox is flawless and typing is more responsive, even with swype. I didn't know how much a messaging client could affect your overall experience of your phone. Good job indeed... and yes, this is my first post... it's that serious. :o
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pyrorob:
thanks, btw it gets a little confusing as to what conclusion to draw from people's reply's about the messaging client.. i mean i have two people that say they get opposite problems... i get people that say they have no problems.. i get people that say they see increased battery drain or i get people that say they see increased battery life..?! i mean the reply's i get are all over the spectrum.. every time i put together a new messaging cab, i run it and test it and i have never had any of the issues anyone brings up, positive, negative or otherwise.. it justs confounds me sometimes..

I mean really, i dont know what to make of this, i do appreciate the reply's and input but there so all over the place its hard to reach a conclusion other then what i experience..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vipmann:
just to add to your confusion ... :D

@pyrorob:

I use an old HTC HD (Blackstone) but the latest Energy ROMs.

I installed your 20183325_00.cab on one of the late Engergy ROMs and experienced a huge Battery drain. I did not know what to blaim for this. Whatever I tried did not help, the battery drain was heavy.

So I went back to an older Energy ROM where I did not have any power issues. But I when I installed the 20183325_00.cab, again the battery life sucked.

I went back to this post to find a solution and saw your test version of 20183727_00.cab and installed this with the new Energy Sep 8| 21916 * Sense 2018 ROM.

Voila - erverything is beautiful now. The Battery life is back to normal. I love the HTC messaging and the secure box. ;)

The only thing that still sucks is if I use the "new SMS" icon in messaging, the keyboard lags. Therefore I usually I go to contacts, choose the contact I want to send a message to from there and then everything works great without keyboard lag.

Thank you for bringing us the newest messaging clients from HTC!!

And this THANK YOU should not confuse you! I comes from the heart.

:cool:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] millski:
I've just installed the 3727 cab on my own ROM, Amelia X7 on my HD2. Installed fine (following the instructions) and no bugs to report. The client seems faster to load than my cooked in client (from Leo 3.04 stock ROM). I'll comment on battery drainage after a days use if I notice any change...

::Edit:: Yep, battery life does seem to be better for me :)

I also noticed a couple of things; the cab must include the registry value for the SMS received notification, changing it to Alert-Fader and no-vibrate. Also one of the dll's included (haven't checked to find which one yet) includes the taskbar notification images for incoming messages, which will conflict with anyones custom taskbars. The opposite is presumably true too - installing a custom taskbar after the new messaging client will overwrite the dll and probably cause conflicts within the messaging client, though I haven't tried this as it's working perfectly for me as it is ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pyrorob:
Yes and no on a few things.. it does have the sms notification, the notification setting is as the messaging clients reg entries sets it by default and the taskbar icons are unique to the messaging client, it doesnt use the built in ones in winmo, thats why i have the color notifications taskbar icons cab. so no, it will not cause "conflicts" as its icons supersedes winmo's ones.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] millski:
Ah cool, I'll have to poke around in the dll's to see about altering the stock notification icons then ;) Another day of use and no problems, thanks rob!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] all-in:
Hi to all,what do i have to download so i can have those colours in messages?i have a Touch Pro.Thanks in advance
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pyrorob:
So, New version from the new oboe rom: pyrorob HTCMessaging_Client_1_8_20191825_00.cab

from what i can see its just some adjustments they did to the settings..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] stathis95194:
I just installed 2019. It installed smoothly...Color Icon pack is working on this version as well. Scrolling is just fine. In a few hours i will comment also on the battery consumption.

Thanks pyrorob
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Petulinek:
Installed beta 2019 on Duttys CDLC 14 WWE, its working without problems, fast and smooth :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] giRaM:
2019 on my htc hd2

it is very fast and works without any problems.

it seems to be the fastest messaging client ever.

nothing more to report.

BIG THX
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] scriller:
it's not the keyboard that lags....it's the msg client that causes it to. it's a bit strange because I don't get that lag in any other apps except the messaging client. also it doesn't seem to lag in landscape mode only in portrait mode.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vipmann:
20191825_00.cab

Installed 20191825_00.cab

I do not have any problems.

Works fine on my old blackstone.

Thanks for the cab. Happy smile :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] aamadorj:
I just started to test the new 2019 version. So far it seems to be very fast.

Later, I will comment on any battery issue.

Thanks for your constant supply of new versions of the Messaging Client, pyrorob.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] hunji01:
work great in my Diamond2
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] onesolo:
Any news ??
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Petulinek:
I have no problems with new build 2019 and battery drain, all is OK
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] aamadorj:
I think battery drain on my device is normal with this 2019 build. I also have been monitoring Messaging Client CPU usage and it seems to be the same than previous 2018.3325 build, which was working nicely on my TD2.

So, I think this new 2019 build is just the fastest Messaging Client until now, without bad collateral effects!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nettech:
Reporting NO major issues with 2019 release. Also no battery drain problems. Pretty good all round. Thanks prorob .....
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] crash_194:
Also no probs running 2019 release so far, thanks very much for you efforts its greatly appreciated!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pyrorob:
well, i know everyone is getting comfortable with the new version of the client i posted.. but, give it an hour or so and im going to have a newer one up..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] crash_194:
Are they your own tweaked versions of the messaging app or the latest origional versions you're sourcing from elsewhere?

The latest one you posted works like lightening compared to the one my hd2 was shipped with. The guy that has done the coloured messaging buttons has done a cracking job aswell!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pyrorob:
Well, if it was the same version it would be "modified". If its a new one, it would be a new "version" ie; pyrorob HTCMessaging_Client_1_8_20192421_01.cab, new version.

I would mention if it was the same version with some fixes..

I dont use gimmicky stuff such as renaming them with my own version numbers
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] stathis95194:
I just installed pyrorob HTCMessaging_Client_1_8_20192421_01.cab and it's running smoothly. Scrolling is was faster than the rpevious version. In a few hours i will comment on battery consumption as well.

Colour Icon Pack is working perfectly with this version as well

Nice job pyrorob. Well done!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pyrorob:
thanks, glad to hear that the client is getting better and better..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] crash_194:
Sorry I hope I didn't come across wrong there, what your providing is greatly appreciated.

I'm using the latest one you have posted up (2421) and its working like a charm.

I can't believe how much snappier htc messaging is since i've installed your latest. Keyboard lag, opening messages, and just general navigation is an awful lot better as far as my experience goes so far!

Thanks again!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] giRaM:
Hi, I have a german ROM on my HD2.

Translation-error in the messaging client.

I installed the all the things in 1st post.

Version: 20192412

Greetings

Edit: Is it possible to run the M C completely in english on my german ROM?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Diviner:
A problem with RTL languages

There is a known problem for RTL languages with the messaging client that comes with manila 2.5 roms and newer versions - when one is looking at the message in the dialog mode, the words are re-ordered yet the letters are kept in the right order (in the main screen and in almost every other way to read the message the order of the words is correct and so is the letters', but the orientation of the line as a whole is LTR).

I would like to suggest an option - to be able to force the oriantation LTR/RTL.

Or if you could find a way to keep the words in the correct order, I'm sure many HTC users would be greatful (not only hebrew speakers).

I'm almost certain that the problem of "re-ordering" is in the messaging client recognizing space, dot and other punctuation marks as LTR letters (again, only in dialog mode). But I know nothing about programing to do any thing to fix this.

Thanks,

Guy
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] giRaM:
now i am back on english rom, no value of these functions.

greetings
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pyrorob:
that is actually an error by whoever translated the manila messaging package, its not in the messaging client. it would be a simple fix thou..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] prosumerhacks:
sms reply font size! not same as sms display font size?!

i have noticed that when using Dutty's cdlc rom series, the cooked in htc messaging client displays same font size for sms display as well as when typing a sms... the same isnt the case if htc messaging client is installed separately (2019.1825)... so i was wondering if it requires any added tweak to get this working... if yes, pls provide some pointers... reg tweaks may be...

thanks!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] b16b:
nice work my friend :) i use your versions in to my roms... :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pyrorob:
if you could do me 2 things i might be able to answer that.. 1, post a link for the rom so ill download it, and 2, if you could dump me the reg entrys in hklm/software/jatyuu and hklm/software/htc/messaging just post the keys here in a txt file.. thanks.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pyrorob:
Thanks, b, hey hit me up on im later i got a new reg tweak i wana talk to you about..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] c0de_junkie:
i have been running the 2019.2421 beta version since it was posted and i gotta agree with everyone, its defiantly the fastest version so far and the most stable version that i have ran!!! mms on cdma telus worked right out the box, i didnt have to change anything, thats the first time that has ever happened, there was one problem at first, every time that i would try to send an sms or mms it would say that there was "No Valid Sim Card Detected" and all i could think was my telus touch pro2 doesn't need a sim card to operate, i was lost and thought it was hopeless , but i did remember that there was a telus sim card in the box that the phone came in, the sim card has never been used or anything like that, but i figured that i would try it anyway, so i put it in and set the phone back to "CDMA Only" on the phone settings screen and now it works like a charm!!! I hope this helps anyone that is having the same problem that i had.

Thanks for all the hard work!! keep up the great effort !!!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pyrorob:
hhrrrmmm, well i am glad that you got it working... but there is some configuration differences between using this on gsm or cdma.. and its currently configured for gsm.. hmm, i might just release a cab that switches it from gsm to cdma (keep in mind that its not going to magically fix mms if it wasnt working for you before..)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] unmclejibbs:
No Operator - pyrorob

Can you confirm fix for no operator on latest version 2019.... just downloaded today and getting the No Operator - Select C or G then - No Valid sim card detected... help please...:confused:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mettercomputers:
I have alltel and am willing to help you help me to get mms working

just let me know what you need
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] KingSiddhartha:
I just installed this version of the messaging client, and it's amazing. The only problem I still have (like others) is with Sprint not being able to send MMS. I can receive them, but when I send one, it says it sent it but the recipient never actually receives it.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tinxjuan:
Dear Pyrorob,

After trying a lot of other HTC message client versions, the 2019.1825 definitely saves my life! It's fast & battery friendly, too! No bugs until now! ;)

You are my hero!

A warm hug from Vietnam! Keep up the good work, bro!

Cheers!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Sqoerk:
Sure it is possible to translate it all. Will have a look tomorrow. Did you use the current german language files, you can download here? I guess not, as they us the non "Tresor" for the Secure Box :p

Replace those mui files in your system folder and probably you're done :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] giRaM:
i used the german translation files... and in one menu it is listed as "tresor" and in an other as "security box".

but now i am back on WWE-ROM.