yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] OstrichSak:
I'm having the same issues with images. I have even copied images from my Droid and PC to the device and some will be distorted or simply not display at all. It's a pretty high rate of them too... probably about half that don't function properly. I deleted the folders entirely and then copied the images over again and it's the same results so I think it's an issue with the device somehow not reading those images properly but it doesn't seem to have any rhyme or reason as to why. I thought maybe it was the filename was too long or filesize was too large but that's not it because files with longer names and larger in size display properly. I also have some pictures that I took on one day that some display and some don't and other pictures that I took with another camera or downloaded and some display or some don't. I can't seem to figure out why.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mindwave:
NEWBIE question

when you "install" an apk from the market, is it downloaded to the device 1st and then installed? or is it downloaded to a temp file, installed and the deleted?

and if it is downloaded 1st, where would the APK be located?

could you copy that to another location?

Thanks

j
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] FletchF:
Does either the Gentouch update or Linc's update change the IMEI? My device used to report its IMEI as 012345678901234. It is now something that appears random.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mknollman:
Check the download folder on your sd card
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] sfay93:
I install an app from the market then use the app backup in Astro to save it. Then I use Dropbox and upload it. I can install from Dropbox via my wifi connection. This works out great when my wife wants an app on hers too.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Asadullah:
An app when downloaded from the the market is first stored in a temporary file inside /data/local/tmp and then from there it goes to either data/app or system/app (depends on the instructions inside the apk)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] angus1357:
If anybody has a Mic and a little free time, over at slatedroid they have pictures of a surfer with microphone and I think that its only a matter of connecting the mic to the board. This would be huge for our lil GT's with skype and new gmail/google calling released.

http://www.slatedroid.com/augen-gentouch78/4434-quick-teardown-inside-device-4.html
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] marcelol:
On it....

I'll give it a go, if someone gives me the PART # and exact location where to solder the MIC. We have all the equipment I'd need at the office to make this happen, I just need to know the specifics.

Also.....does anyone know where I could source the HDMI port connector ? If so, I bet I can probably add that, and maybe even give this thing a real 3.5mm audio jack ( Dremel here I come )
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] angus1357:
I dont have a part number, I assume a Mic is a Mic, but the location is given in the other forum (double check me) I believe its pads 9 and 10.

edit: Radioshack has this, looks similar

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062216
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mothy:
Is there any news on roms, kernels etc so we can overclock it?

Thanks
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] marcelol:
Not so fast !!!!

Actually....it won't work...that second board is a bit different ( it actually has components soldered to it, and the cable that connects from the LCD to the main board goes directly to the board from the LCD on the GT, whereas on the Surfboard, it goes to this second board, and then it, and the other signals ( presumably from the WebCam and Mic ) are also routed on a second cable edge-strip where there are actually connectors soldered.

This means that there's no clear way on how to add a microphone. It also seems as though the board itself is a different revision, because the parts #'s on the GT and the Surfboard are different.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] angus1357:
Judging by the image of the surfboard, and assuming its at least close to the daughterboard in our GT, the mic goes from the daughterboard through the cable to the main board...so its fair to assume that you could go from a mic straight to the ribbon cable connector pads on the main board. I probed my GT daughterboard to make sure those traces dont go anywhere else and they do not so the extra parts on that daughter card are for whatever else is installed there.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mindwave:
ASAD:

Does the APK go to one of those locations or does the APK get unpacked and the components are tehn installed to one of those locations?

Thanks

j
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ttmyt:
Image Available that I can boot to clockwork and restore?

So here's the deal... i dont want any paid apps for free or anything given to me... i just want someone to post a ZIP that i can put on my SDCARD and boot to clockwork (holding home button) and restore/load that gives me the best of the best with everything working...

so i want market, correct CPU settings, all apps working and any tweaks and things that i would need to have the gentouch run and operate to it's best ability.... you know.. the way its suppose to run when you buy a tablet/device/computer or anything for that matter... i understand that its not all perfect, but i want to us the device and stop screwing it up every time i try to do an adb command or some modification...

i just want a device that works! :-) thats why i bought it... i'm all up for tinkering, but i don't know the technology and i don't have time to keep starting over...

who agrees? i bet a bunch of people!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mindwave:
actually you are probably in the wrong place

personally i went android as opposed t IPAD or winblows because I WANT to the freedom to play

would i LOVE it if EVERYTHING worked right out of the box?

maybe, but then I'd be bored and move on to something else....
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mindwave:
but then again I always have been a little left of center. which is interesting considering Im a FAR right leaning conservative.......
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ttmyt:
well... this is all great... BUT i want to play as well... but basic functionality should work and then when i have time i tinker... and if i screw it up... then its my fault and not the devices... i understand this device was shipped early... i have till oct to return... just trying to see if there is an easy solution as this is my 1st android device and i have no idea how this thing functions...

just looking to have a clean image that i can revert back to...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mindwave:
ASAD: Question part #2, would that same thing apply to apps that are installed VIA ADB through the USB?

The reason I ask is I'm running some experiments using thye sims in the SDK and the APK's that I downloaded dont seem tp BE anywhere......

so thats what made me tink that the act of "adb install name.apk" unpacked the file and placed it where it needed to be!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mindwave:
TTMYT this is almost EVERYONES first android tablet (except for the folks who were the prehistoric adopters of the VIA pads, boy you want to see ISSUES)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] xx1100101xx:
You wont need that dremel, any surface mount 3.5mm will fit in no problem(with possible wiring adjustment, jumper wires), I have already changed mine over .
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ttmyt:
i meant devices... anyway... how about this then... a working image with market and everything setup and releases by those that understand the devices like they did for v3 and the pirate patch, but with all the fixes... i would even settle for a pirate patch with the market and everything working as i have not been able to get it to work and now my device is back to when i got it as i erased everything trying to do the adb commands to get it to work...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] marcelol:
Where ?

Where did you pick up your 3.5mm Jack ? The Shack ? What SKU# ?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] xx1100101xx:
I work at a repair shop, pulled it from a broken gps unit. I will see if i can find a source.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] R-james:
Go away *TROLL*.

And yes, you are a *TROLL*. Your kind shows up on places like OSNEWS and Linux WWW sites whining about how hard Linux is to use and make idiotic comments like how Linux needs to adopt Windows-style binary installers so it can attract semi-literate people like yourself who are basically too lazy and stupid to bother learning about the things they use.

in other words get lost and get a life.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] marcelol:
Please lend your support...

Sorry for X-posting....but this needs to get out there ! Promise not to do it again. :)

http://www.petitiononline.com/AGT7800/petition.html
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mothy:
I signed but we will need alot more the 6 that have singed so far :p
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ttmyt:
WOW... this is exactly how I would expect someone with nothing better to do to react... for your information... i have 2 technical degrees, code, build websites, create apps, and a slew of other things and i wanted to try a android device. i dont have the time to learn a new system, BUT i wanted to give it a shot... i was hoping someone THAT HAS THE TIME could save me the time that i dont have...

response? I will not comment again to this crap... why dont you go to another place and leave this space for what it's meant for...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] goodintentions:
Jesus H Christ. Here is a link to Augen Gentouch78 For Dummies: The complete idiot-proof guide to the Augen Gentouch78 internet and media tablet. Yes, I made that site just for you.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] v8_aristo:
The members of this forum (specifically this thread) are working on the GT as a hobby, they don't get paid and they don't work for Augen. If this device doesn't operate to your liking, then it might be time to bring it back and get a refund.

All these other non Augen "fixes" are done my GT owners that know the risk (including myself). I think most of us knew that it was never really going to a device that "run and operate to it's best ability.... you know.. the way its suppose to run when you buy a tablet/device". So, for the price I got it for, I was willing to to do the extra work to make it better. I for one am thankfully for all the help they offer and for making my device so much better than what I bought.

Keep up the good work devs!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] reexon:
Hello all,

After I found out that Gentouch 78 shares the same hardware with Surf Smart Book , on sale in Germany

smartbook.de

I decided to browse their Support / Download page to see what updates they may have.

smartbook.de/Content/service.aspx

I found one dated 24 AUG 2010 and I installed on my Gentoch.

I did not found anything out of ordinary.

I forgot to mention that I’m a beginner, and all of what I was looking for was a way to connect and USB Flash Drive to my Gentouch 78.

I didn’t find it, and I continue to browse the device and I found some interesting menu option for and HDMI support.

If I remember correctly few fellow colleagues from this forums discussed about an option of soldering and HDMI plug in to the device and maybe we will be able somehow to find the drivers.

I’m not sure if my discovery has some importance but I decided to share it with you.

I used Google translate to get some info from German web page, and I noticed that USB FLASH/ HDD support is possible ( in the future ), also support for 32 Gb Micro SD.

Another interesting fact, their device has 2 USB Plugs.

I’m looking for the photos of Gentough motherboard to see why, and if maybe on Augen provided intentionally only one USB plug.

I will try to upload some screen shots.

Thank you!

And I appreciate your comments.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] reexon:
What file I have to modify in order to change the android pirate .img ?

Thank you !
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bowtieduece:
req for linc

On your next update, if there is one could you include the new superuser. I noticed after rebooting that my min setting doesn't kick in automatically. The new superuser is supposed to fix this and it also has a new icon. Again thanks for all your work.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] marcelol:
How ?

What you can do is post a link to where someone could download that update...because even though the link is there...it's not working for me here in the US. Maybe it's blocked outside of Germany ?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] reexon:
http://smartbook.de/Content/produktseiten/details.aspx?produkt=22fd4c3f-d5a2-4288-8fca-66679455bc63

http://smartbook.de/Content/service.aspx
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mskash:
Signed it! :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] marcelol:
I meant...the files themselves

@reexon...thanks for the links..but that's where I've been already...I mean the files themselves.....I've tried downloading them, and they don't come down.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] BitMaster:
Agreed 100%! I've never posted in any xda forum but have used this site extensively for years making my WM phone(s) and now this Android device work much better! I'm a newbie to Linux but not to a command line (old DOS/4DOS user, and I realize that dates me lol). I've learned so much by just reading the wealth of information so many kind people have put in so much time to make this device (among others) so much better!

Thanks to all devs and everyone who is supporting this device with their time and efforts. I'd say there are many other "lurkers" other than me in this forum that enjoy reading and learning!

To those who ask redundant questions, some kind advice; please do some research, googling, and READ and LEARN on your own. You will find the answers you seek, no matter what your technical ability, background, and paper degrees (and I'm no tech newbie). I have yet to have had to ask a question that hasn't already covered and I bought my Augen tablet about 3 weeks ago when they were finally in stock at my local K.

Enough soap-boxing...back to lurking. :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] goodintentions:
Haha, redundant questions are unavoidable. My website Augen Gentouch78 For Dummies has everything spelled out step by step. I'm pretty sure everything is idiot-proof. Yet, half the questions I've gotten I have been questions I'd already answered somewhere on the site. I've simply been giving them the number of the Q & A they need to read.

Besides, how do you know they understood the answers before? Just kindly answer them again in different words if they ask again.

That said, could someone please post apk manager for me? I really need this app. It's free on market.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] sfay93:
Here ya go.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] goodintentions:
Thank you for the app.

Edit:

Damn it! Those liars! Apk manager doesn't solve anything!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] sfay93:
What are you trying to accomplish with APK Manager?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jettmason:
Re downloading the Smartbook Surfer OS updates:

I clicked on reexon's second link (Content/service) where I found this link:

Treiber & Dokumentationen anzeigen

Where I downloaded this 59,347 KB file:

OS_Surfer_Update_24082010.rar	SURFER	Google Android 2.1	OS UPDATE	SB 1.2	24.08.2010

There is also an earlier OS update of 59,295 KB on August 14 for the Surfer which can be downloaded.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] andrews240:
The download appears to work fine. Had to use Translate to navigate to it, though. I used the first link.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cutterjohn:
To make it cheaper, but that only truly matters if they ordered thousands of these things o.w. they save a couple dollars over the 100s they ordered.

It's also why it doesn't have an HDMI port, GPS, mic, and camera...

I'd like to see a picture hsowing what's on the back side of the daughter card(and mb) of that smartsurfer thing... only photos I've seen were from that one German guy's blog but it just had one side of the mb & daughter card... could also wish for some higher res photos...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] strongergravity:
Signed it too.

This petition is an appeal for Augen to release their source code (like they are supposed to). I encourage you all to take a minute and do it too. We need the source in order to make fixes, create roms, overclock, etc.

Thanks Marcel!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] wa3yri:
The true troll jumps out from under the bridge again.

James,

I think it is you who needs to geta life. Why do you find it necessary to do this to people? I've got a better idea why don't you just go away!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] TheZeke:
Has anyone found a good car charger to use with their gentouch? I tend to be forgetful and will leave it on after lunch or overnight, so having a spare charger in the car would be nice.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] FeedomFighter:
Your best bet would probably be to get an AC/DC inverter and plug in the wall charger into it. Seems as if this really dosnt charge off USB, so I dont think a USB car charger would b emuch good, even when its turned off.

-MW
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jzmacdaddy:
You have to think about the cost of the support components too. An HDMI or USB connector is useless without the IC chips, capacitors, coils, etc. that control it! :-)

Heck, it might cost $5 per Gentouch for an HDMI decoder chip. That's a lot of cash saved over hundreds of units sold. I'm personally thankful that they cut enough out of it to make it only $150 (had it since day 1).
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jzmacdaddy:
Touchscreen Improvements

Almost forgot...

Even though Augen has done a lot via the calibration app to narrow the usability gap between resistive and capacitive touchscreens, I still think it could be improved a little more. The only real issue I have is "flick scrolling". It seems that about 50% of the time, I inadvertently open an app or click on a link. I wonder if it would be possible to change the "tap to open" delay? Like how you use a "long tap"....but not as long....maybe half a second. I would think that would be long enough to prevent you from accidentally opening stuff when flicking through screens.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cutterjohn:
HDMI is included on the TCC89XX SoC already, along with LCD driver, video encoding/decoding, audio encoding/decoding, 3D GPU mali-200, multiple USB ports, etc. It's just pre-packed with all sorts of hw support just needs traces on the board and places for the connectors where necessary...

i.e. All it needs it the actual connector & sw driver which is already there...

Hell this thing even supports CAN... (they target automotive as well, well Telechips does...)

(It's why they call these things, SoCs or Systems On a Chip, the idea being to reduce the number of extra components necessary for functionality... it's like taking an x86 and packing the north bridge and south bridge into the same package as the CPU... some of which is already done on some Intel & AMD CPUs...)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mothy:
At this time I do not want to use market, or the google services. Im trying to find the files to rename them and hopefully conserve some battery. I have run the pirate update but cant find the files that it said had moved to /system/data.

Anybody's help is welcome

Thanks
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] TeknoJnky:
Yea, this happens alot to me also. I think improving this would be a huge step forward in usability.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] xguntherc:
I've got a question for you guys..

If I do a Nandroid of my Gentouch the way it is now. Basically stock, with Clockwork, ADW Launcher, Rooted, and a few other things.. and then try the gentouch v2 and v3 patches that add volume Controls, but take out all the Google Apps. Can I nandroid restore back to the way it was, with the google apps and everything? I haven't followed this thread for the last week n a half and I've missed all the news about these updates and everything. Last thing I did was the AndApp Store, and the original crappy calibration fix. That is all.. what does everyone recommend I try?

So this is a LOT of reading. I'm on page 110 and I see that i should do the Augen patch that adds calibration fix, volume on screen keys, and gets rid of all the gapps, but then I flash lincrackers file, and that will put it all back... and then we have the best of both worlds? So is page 110 the best thing for me to do atm?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] andrews240:
Looks like you answered your own question. Restoring the Nand backup would completely undo the v2/v3 update, taking you back to your pre-updated state. Just follow Linckraker's instructions, and you will be fine. All third-party apps are preserved as well.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] xguntherc:
Thanks andrews, I didn't know of all that yet, but I found the latest here. I think I'll do this.

So this is the latest and best thing for me to do then right? it's the V3 from Augen, with linc's tweaks and CW, and then i flash his zip that puts everything back.. perfect. Lots of reading, but i got it.

Doing this now :D