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[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Avazee:
I am currently a Motorola Razr user (yes, I am way behind the times!), and it finally is time to get a smartphone. I don't want to get the iPhone because I can't stand Apple, and I think I've narrowed my search down to the Droid Incredible (I think the Droid X is a bit large).

However, I have a few questions I hope can get answered, and I need some advice:

1) Battery life- I have heard mixed things about the Inc's battery life. Most say it is not good, and some say it is just fine. If I am planning on rooting and loading a custom ROM, how would you rate the battery life? Compared to the Droid X and the iPhone 4? How long does a single charge last?

2) LED light - I know the video mode does not turn on the LED light for constant light, but I read somewhere that the Inc will get an update that will get LED constant video light - is this true? I know 720p was recently added.

3) I just checked out the phone at my local Verizon store, and when scrolling through menus/etc it tends to lag sometimes. Can this be fixed if I root and load a custom ROM?

4) I am also thinking about waiting for the Samsung Fascinate to come out, but that could be a while, and I need a phone pretty soon (in the next week or two). If the Droid Inc. is very close to the Fascinate in features (which I think it is except for the Super AMOLED 4-inch screen), would it be wise to wait for the Samsung, or should I bite the bullet and get the Droid Inc. now?

Any help would be tremendously appreciated. Thanks in advance.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jdkoreclipse:
1. Battery sucks. Only 4hours of moderate use.

2. I never use the led light, so I can't help there

3. Roms and kernels fix all lag. Try cm6 or skyraider with Hydra v.08 icicles or ocov (whichever is stable). That will fix lag.

4. Super amoled vs amoled- you can see super amoled in the sun, and it is difficult with regular.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mikeacela:
Wow u sure know a lot without having the phone. I've had the Droid incredible now for around 3 months, I used to have the iPhone then a LG dare then the Droid Eris. I can honestly say the Incredible is the best of all the phones ever.

1) battery life- battery life for Me lasted 22 hours but this depends entirely upon how you use your phone. I had maybe a half hour of music a day, 20-40 texts and maybe a half hour of all the other stuff. Now I am rooted and running a rom(cyanogenmod test 7) on my incredible and I can get possibly a few extra hours of batt.

2) Led Light - in order to use the LED light while video recording, I believe their should be an ota update comming out as earley as friday that will fix this problem and add many more features.

3) Performance - when it comes to the speed and performance of the device, that depends on what is taking up the CPU, the more apps you have running, if you download task manager to kill the apps to stop them from running, the CPU will have more ram to coordinate itself. As it stands, the phone you saw in the store probably had its ram( CPU) taken up by all the running apps. An overclocked kernel for use with a rom can also solve this problem.

4) give or take- I highly reccomend the Incredible to anyone on Verizon's network. I too found the Droid x was very large and wouldent fit my lifestyle. As for the Samsung Facinate. The incredible and facinate are very close performance wise. If I was in your position I might consider the facinate just because its newer, but I highly reccomend the incredible because its just amazing.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ecltech:
Avazee,

I recently got an Incredible, coming from Windows Mobile. I've been using WinMo for about 3 years now and got tired of it, mostly due to AT&Ts crappy network. :) Was waiting for them to get their network improved and possibly get better phones but iPhone wasn't my choice either.

Here are some of my objective (hopefully) experience so far -- keep in mind I only have it for 5 days now.

1) Size: the device is the right size for me. I tried the EVO and while it's has a really nice screen, it's too big for my needs. The Incredible I get the same hardware with a smaller size factor.

2) Battery: this was a major concern of mine when getting this phone. However, so far I haven't noticed bad battery life on it. I used it for about 2-3 hours non stop (playing games, checking emails). For the rest of the day I had only Mobile Data enable and everything else disabled (GPS, WIFI, Bluetooth). I also installed "Advanced Task Killer" which is configured to kill tasks every 30 mins. This a great program and works well so far. I have purchased the upgraded battery (1750 mAh) which does not require a back cover change. Still waiting to get it. For the usage I did today, I had about 40% battery left.

3) Customization: The same day I got the phone, I was able to root the device and load custom ROMs. While I'm familiar with the ROM process on WinMo, I think the Android is much easier to work with. There are some good guides on the forums and UnRevoked makes it very easy to root the phone. After flashing a few ROMs, I ended up flashing back the Verizon ROM and using ADB to remove a few package. Works fine for me. Don't get any lags or notice any performance issue with HTC Sense. You can always replace HTC Sense with LauncherPro or some other launcher. LauncherPro has a lot of customization.

4) Screen: AMOLED ver Super AMOLED, I don't think there's much difference, at least from what I've read and seen in videos. Haven't seen the Super AMOLED in person to compare. What I can tell you about the Incredible, is that I have no issue with the screen so far. I have it set to auto adjust the brightness which seems to work well.

Using it for only 4 days, I think it's a great phone and customization seems to be endless, or at least can keep you VERY busy. :)

Verizon should have a 30 day return policy so order it, try it out and see how it works for you. If you don't like it, return it and wait for the Samsung or some other ones coming up... you will not be short of options. lol.

Hope that was somewhat helpful. If you need any specific info, PM me.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jdkoreclipse:
Wow, you have good battery life, but you probably don't use it as much as I.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Avazee:
Wow, thanks for all the responses, I greatly appreciate it!

ecltech, thanks for the info. I just checked Verizon's return policy, and they state that there is a $35 restocking fee for all returns. Is that true?

Also, which upgraded battery did you get, that doesn't add any bulk/size?

I just wish someone knew when the Samsung Fascinate is coming out... if it were 2-4 weeks away, I'd probably just wait until that comes out.

Thanks again for the help.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ecltech:
The battery I purchased is from www.seidioonline.net. I've used their products in the past for a previous WinMo phone and it works well. The battery is a slim battery while adding additional capacity so it does not add any bulk to the phone.

Yes, Verizon's return policy has a $35.00 restocking fee. I look at it as a small price to pay for using the phone for 30 days and then returning it. :)

Try both and see what best fits your needs. In the end it's what works best for you that matters.

Good luck!
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rfarrah:
Yeah, unfortunately, still no word on the Fascinate/Galaxy S for VZW. But if you need a phone now, you'll be happy with the Incredible.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Coop9:
1) battery life. Coming from a non smart phone (I had a ENV Touch) the battery life simply does not compare. That battery would last for days with moderate use, and over a week with light use. But that's one of the trade-offs with any smart phone. I charge nightly now, but haven't had any issues with the stock battery draining during a day of moderate use. Compared to my BB curve (which I still have, stupid work exchange server policies) battery life is similar when it comes to periods when the phone is heavily used, but it does seem to drain faster on standby. Overall, battery is bearable in my opinion.

2) dunno.

3) I don't notice any lag on mine. It's always been very responsive in my experience with the stock setup. Anyplace in particular?

4) The Galaxy S is the only one of the 4" screen models I've seen yet which I'd consider over the Incredible. It's still a bigger phone, and I really like the size of the incredible. The screen should be better in sunlight, and looks to have a little better color in the videos I've seen, and it also should be much better in terms of 3D processing. If it was out today, I'd definitely consider trading in my incredible for one. But it's not, and who knows when it will be released.

Overall I've been really happy with my incredible, and don't think you can go wrong with the phone. If you can hold off, the Fascinate looks like a great phone as well, but two months later, yet another phone which is better yet will be released. The incredible is proven to be a very solid phone, samsung has had some hits and misses in the past.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Avazee:
Cool - I am really thinking about getting the Inc., instead of waiting for the Fascinate to come out. A few more questions in the meantime:

1) Out of curiosity, is it possible to purchase a European Galaxy S and have it work on AT&T here in the US?

2) If I buy the Inc., root it and load a custom ROM, will I still receive OTA updates for FroYo and the other patch that adds the Video light?

Thanks again for everyone's help.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dreamerz679:
I've had the phone since launch... not sure how long its been now....

1) Battery life is pretty decent for a smartphone. I have the Seidio 1750mAh battery and I get 19-20 hours everyday with 30-40% left. I leave home at 5AM and I don't plug in until I go to sleep, usually around 12. I however wouldn't recommend the seidio battery as its more expensive than the TP2 battery and you get the same capacity. Take a look at Batteryboss.org. I own 3 of these Seidio batteries and if you take the plastic cover off, you can see they are all 1500-1590mAh cells. I use Gtalk all day, not much SMS, around 20 Gmails and 10-15 exchange emails a day with realtime syncing, and about an hour of talk per day. I use automatic task killer as well.

2) The 2.2 Froyo ROMs have the light on for the camcorder. Check here xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=738634

3) The lags through the menus are most likely because of everyone playing with the phone, opening all the apps, webpages, etc and never killing any tasks or rebooting. This is a "smartphone/computer" and closing programs is necessary. I have had lag in the menus usually when the phone is syncing or installing an app etc, very few though. Also the froyo with 2.6.32 gives you more available RAM and its faster, haven't had any menu lag yet!

4) The hummingbird SoC is definitely an improvement of Snapdragon, same cpu (very close) just better gpu and other small changes. The superAmoled display is mainly brighter in the fascinate, makes reading the display in sunlight easier.

Incredible Vs Fascinate? Its really a look and feel preference I'd say... You really need to touch the device and use it in person to make an informed decision. For me, the incredible is very thin and light and fits in my pocket with no case, just a zagg shield and I barely notice its there, thats why I chose it. If you need a phone very soon get the incredible from BestBuy and pricematch wirefly or amazon. They have a 30 day return policy (no restocking fee) and you can exchange it if you decide on the Fascinate.

PS. I think the incredible is still back ordered. Everyone I've seen has a 5-10 days delay... Might be worth just waiting a couple weeks to decide
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Avazee:
I just bit the bullet and just purchased a the Droid Incredible. I'm excited - hopefully it will arrive next week.

As another stupid (I apologize in advance) question - where do start when it comes to rooting/loading the best ROM? Is there a quick link/blog post/guide that shows me?

Many thanks again for all the help so far.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ecltech:
Take a look here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=739428

Have fun!
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blazin_phattys:
STOP READING MY MIND!!!!!!

seriously though, this post is exactly what i've been going through the last two weeks...

i couldn't decide whether to wait for the elusive Fascinate or go for the Inc or the X. throw in the rumors that tiered data is coming soon too... i've been so anxious lately.

i couldn't take it anymore so i ordered the Inc. the X is way too big for my hands to use one handed comfortably.

Sense is way better than Ninjablur. Samsung's UI stinks. The Inc has higher pixel density and a better processor imo.

i'm only worried about the crappy audio codec and slow framerates during HD recording. Man, the sound is horrible.

i sure wish i could get a solid release date on the fascinate. graphics chip is sick. BUT, i don't wanna wait too long and lose the opportunity to get unlimited data.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Greasy Joe Bick:
I'd say don't buy one. It's a great phone.. Best one I ever had in my opinion. If your a newb, looking for help ,without getting insulted, this isn't the phone for you!

Love the phone, hate the support. Don't get this phone if you don't know more than anyone else around here. Prepare for total Internet tough guy vengeance as they flex there "i know more unix than you!" muscles at every turn. Want a simple 'yes' or 'no' answer if a certain csv is supported by 2.2?

Prepare for a, total IRC rock em sock em, you don't know what i know, brawl as they flirt with file extensions and unix innuendos that you don't understand. Make new names in irc to mock you, and just piss all over yer newbness. Just bask in the awesomeness of there skills and eat it. YOU DONT KNOW MORE THAN ME LA LA LAA LAA LAAA LAAA!

Sums up my experience so far. Thanks IRC!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] toawkanavngthded:
im on my iphone 2g and had a tilt 2 running android 2.1 (sadly my tilt 2 fell in water and stopped working 2 months later) and been wanting to switch to an android device on at&t. my only options to consider is the captivate or nexus one (if i can find one to buy lol ). ill be honest.... ive been following any captivate threads and seeing how to root and and getting general information on android and its language. i started reading upon nexus one threads on here and on phandroid and well i got very confused on reading about rooting and how to add custom ROMs and all of its vocabulary. these n1 threads have been going on for a while and i feel like im very lost reading upon it and cant find a thread to start to get familiarized i love the specs on the nexus one and well NO one i know has one and would like to get one and customize it to the fullest. the captivate looks good but the specs compared to the nexus one.... im leaning more to the nexus one. would u say i should get an n1? any suggestions is greatly appreciated
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jasonyump:
what specs are interesting you more in the Nexus One?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] toawkanavngthded:
well for one google gets updates on android sooner than any other android devices on at&t right? froyo is available as a cooked ROM. froyo wont be available till who knows when wit the captivate. no cooked ROMs yet for captivate. FLASH on the cam! lol. thats one of my biggest downsides on the captivate. seems like the nexus one is top notch android compared to captivate. captivate seems just like a brand new android device for devs to tinker with since its new. it also has amoled huge screen. im not really fond of touch wiz but can be easily replaced. and also the fact no one i know has a nexus one. i haven't really compared side by side of the captivate and nexus one but in my opinion nexus one has better specs.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] pantyryder69:
I'm using the K9 email app to sync with my hotmail accounts but i find it slow when browsing between emails and it takes a while to load an email.

Does anyone know how to make it faster? or is there a better email app that also syncs with my hotmail accounts and provides push email?
[Captivate Themes and Apps] alphadog00:
It may be because of where data is stored for K9. If there is an option to store it internal versus external - that may help. Or there is this fix:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=737829

I pulled K9 off as it took hours to just pull down my email. I don't care for the captivate app, but it is more responsive then K9 for me.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] mclarkphotos:
I've had my Tilt 2 about 2 months... Completely original and runs like crap. It's super slow and when changing between apps it oftens takes a minute to change. I have very little understanding about running ROM's, I know how to download, unzip (if needed) and launch programs, but not much more.

So here is the question... what is the best and easiest ROM to install that still has most of the apps working and wont brick the phone...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Doo Doo:
There is no best rom because different people like different roms so the best thing for you to do is download a couple of roms and try them out for yourself to see what you like

I would start here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=550540
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fone_fanatic:
just make sure you read over the steps carefully one time before you actually do it. I've been flashing roms on winmo phones since 2003 and have yet to brick a device. Its very simple and almost always fail-proof. If the device is unplugged while flashing a rom, its as simple as putting the device in bootloader mode and reflashing the rom.

Be patient and follow the instructions. If you run into a problem, its very probably that someone has ran into the same issue so just do a search and you'll be back on your way.

Best of luck ;)
[Captivate Android Development] hazard96:
Doesn't work!
[Captivate Android Development] shad0wf0x:
people tried doing something like this with the htc aria, but there is a problem with using this, the android_id in the db is what bases your market downloads etc. There are alot more settings in this db than just the non market apps.
[Captivate Android Development] hazard96:
O really? It worked for me a second ago i think!

Wait, nevermind. Sorry guys!
[Captivate Android Development] gtg465x:
This is a bad idea. First of all, this will change all of your phone settings to whatever is in that file. It won't just change the non-marketplace apps setting. Second, like shad0wf0x said, this could cause strange problems in the future because you'll be using someone else's unique android id.
[Captivate Android Development] hazard96:
alrite, thank you for the info.. someone in the other thread said someone should pull the settings.db file and post it... and thats what i did :P
[Captivate Android Development] Seyiji:
That should be a little larger as well as in the beginning of the post.

Also you should remove the attachment :D
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] liftedngifted1:
Is there a way to install Apss 2 SD on the Rooted version of the stcok Sprint ROM? Also is there anyway to remove those stupid Sprint crapware Apps like Sprint TV and the Nascar App?
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BlaqkAudio:
nfinite has made a rooted version of the .6 update complete with a2sd: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=703267

And to delete those kind of apps, you're going to need a file explorer (such as Root Explorer) or you can use adb (eg. ./adb rm Example.apk /system/app/)
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] c00ller:
As much as I love giving back to the community that has helped me learn so much, it feels like I've had to provide this link on how to remove apps at least 5 times the past week

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=581635

People should really use the search function more.

This forum really needs some threads stickied
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abctilly:
Is there a FX Camera app for windows mobile like the one for android? I really like that app. If not, I heard that there are people who ported android over to hd2 like a sort of dual boot. Is that true?

thx.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qllkevuoi:
:eek: where did you live till now? on the moon? :D

Yep it's true, there are many builds of android that are running well on HD2...there is this dedicated section on this argument...:confused:

Regards
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abctilly:
i know... I was just sayin...

I want FX camera!!!!!!!!
[HD2 General] Tref:
Anyone know if it's possible to tweak the qwerty keyboard? I'm coming over from a TP2 and I like the builtin KB that HTC provides, and it should be even nicer on the larger screen, but it's not as handy as it could be. There are extra, blank keys on the 2/2 Numeric pad and I'm wondering if it's possible to add some keys. For instance it would be very handy to have a space key in the numeric pads.
[HD2 General] calc:
I just upgraded from a TYTN II and i do miss the physical keyboard and i'm not too crazy over the software keyboard mainly because i don't get the tactile feel of pressing the keys.

But have you tried the Swype ? Needs a little getting used to but i'm getting pretty good with Swype and i feel it's a lot faster than typing. Plus it looks pretty cool :cool:
[HD2 General] jdwrrzmm:
Ther are other keyboards. Sorry, I don't recall their name. One was very customizable though. I tired two different ones, but they didn't play nice with predictive text.
[HD2 General] Tref:
I have Resco and I like it well enough, though the version I have doesn't seem to have been built for 800x480 so it doesn't use all of the screen real estate. Therefore the keys are too small.

I like the HTC QWERTY keyboard a lot. It just doesn't seem to be customizable and therefore one has to switch between the screens more than it might otherwise be necessary in order to get the keys you're after. All I really want to do is to be able to enter a space while on the numeric screen. Not move the cursor, but to add an actual space. And to swap a couple of the characters on the 1/2 screen with others on the ABC and 2/2 screens.

Other than that I think it's a great keyboard. The haptic for me provides enough feedback and the keys are plenty big enough. My Leo should be here today or tomorrow and then I can start trying different things. If it turns out Resco's current KB can be made larger then that would probably be just the ticket assuming the HTC KB cannot be customized. I'm not really interested in tryiing Swype, but thanks for the tip.
[HD2 General] the7thson:
I would imagine there's an XML keymap somewhere that we could conceivably edit but I'm not sure, i'd like to know the answer as well.
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
you dont mean THIS space then?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dave456:
I live overseas but call back to the us quite often for friends, family, or work. My mobile provider provides an economical way of calling back to the us and to many other countries by replacing +1 (or whatever the country code) with an access code (ie 13200 and country code). However I still need to store all my numbers regularly with + and country code for text messaging and syncing to other devices.

Am I missing something or is there no way to easily edit a number from contacts before dialing? I can edit numbers from the call log with a long press. But this doesn't seem possible from contacts. The only way I can seem to do it is dial with the original number, immediately hang up, then edit the number. My old Nokia did the number edits easily through contacts. Any suggestions? Am I just missing something? Any assistance would be appreciated. Using froyo. Thanks.

Dave