yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[EVO 4G Android Development] tranquilchaos:
What tool gives you that battery/charge time info?
[EVO 4G Android Development] p-slim:
Spare parts

Edit: read question wrong
[EVO 4G Android Development] david279:
try spare parts....
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Exactly. Snap makes a definite difference. Run the tests again using Shift_'s and my directions, and you'll see the result you're looking for.
[EVO 4G Android Development] laydros:
Updated FAQ

I updated the FAQ. I haven't caught up on any changes for tonight.

Please take a look and let me know what needs to be added, updated, etc.

Can someone beg toastcfh to sticky it so we don't have to keep answering if people need to wipe and where the changelog is?
[EVO 4G Android Development] tranquilchaos:
It is spare parts, isn't it? Just looked at it for first time. Good stuff
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
excellent, thanks man! i'll post up suggestions there. also, shoot him a pm. or send him a tweet. i've only gotten a response from him on twitter lol.
[EVO 4G Android Development] trixr750:
What is spare parts?
[EVO 4G Android Development] nicholaaaas:
since all the kernals are based of a nightly build... are the kernals on each nightly the latest, greatest, fastest and all that good stuff?
[EVO 4G Android Development] laydros:
I don't think it is really NAND. I may be wrong, but I think the same type of memory is used for the /data partition, where our apps and os write stuff all day, and the /system partition. It is just that the system partition is read-only to keep people (owners or developers) from messing stuff up.
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
guys...

laydros has done a fantastic job with setting up a thread with most, if not all, of your most common questions answered here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=729802

i vote for that being the unofficial official nightly thread. let's not clutter up the dev forum every night.
[EVO 4G Android Development] DomSim:
noticed this before flashing tonights nightly, may not have been enough time running for accurate numbers or they have fixed the power profiles.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
I'll let you know if I notice anything.

Regrettably, a sticky doesn't force people to use the search function.
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
they fixed the power profiles in the 8/8 nightly. it's been sexy accurate, actually. :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] patelkedar91:
Awesome, getting the new nightly mostly due to the power profiles fix.

Should it, in theory, help the battery as well?
[EVO 4G Android Development] infamousjax:
what are these power profiles you speak of?
[EVO 4G Android Development] patelkedar91:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=7571868&postcount=4620
[EVO 4G Android Development] posguy99:
No, they removed the messed up profile. There has been no new one added, it's using the defaults.
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
my mistake. you're right. they didn't exactly finetune it for the evo. thanks for correcting me. :o
[EVO 4G Android Development] laydros:
No. :(

Just the chart of what is using your battery. It does seem like the kernel changes that went in 8/7(ish?) helped a bit though.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
Bump

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[EVO 4G Android Development] plmiller0905:
For some strange reason whenever I go to move a widgetor icon off one off the screens, the icon gets like this yellowish/gold shadow around it and it just freezes. I can't open any other apps, go the app drawer etc. I can pull down the notification bar and that's it. I have found myself rebooting the phone just to fix the issue.

This was happening on the yesterday's nightly as well as tonight's nightly. Have anyone had this issue or a similar issue.

And for the record, I haven't flashed any kernels with the nighly and I also wiped everything prior to installing the nightly.
[EVO 4G Android Development] syward:
Its for resizing the widget, you can hit back to cancel
[EVO 4G Android Development] devgrp:
Thats a feature of Laumcher Plus Pro. When that happens you can drag the lower right corner to resize the widget. To get out of it just hit the back button.
[EVO 4G Android Development] plmiller0905:
Dumb me...lol. I will try that next time it happens to me.

Thanks for helping me out
[EVO 4G Android Development] krazyflipj:
Interesting info. Cyanogen via Twitter: "the next nightly should have a better 720p framerate. And CMs cam app is getting very good."
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
good catch! cross-posted in the nightly thread :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] stangdriverdoug:
I just switched from Fresh to try this out....got it dialed in fairley well. Looks like I have about 220-240mb free ram at any given time, Linpack is right about 38-42 and Quadrant best was a 1507. I am able to overclock to 115 with snap's 5.1 Kernel. Pretty cool so far. I'm using Googlevoice...Two things I noticed...MMS is a little weird, looks like I can send pics but can't download them? And the other one I forgot...it's late and im tired lol. great ROM so Far though.
[EVO 4G Android Development] wisenhimer:
laydros, like the unofficial nighty thread, very concise thx
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Retweet...
[EVO 4G Android Development] wisenhimer:
Curious if anyone had tested wireless vs usb speeds,i noticed a significant drop on wireless tether, need to read up earlier in post on how to post test results
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
i think, naturally, you're going to get a hit on wireless speeds. try running a multitude of speedtests via speedtest.net and posting them here (i'm assuming you're running a nightly build).

i'm interested to see your results.
[EVO 4G Android Development] BigRick10:
Longpress on the mms you receive to save.
[EVO 4G Android Development] rajah sulayman:
Random obscure question that I highly doubt I'll find an answer to:

Does anyone know how to enable RenderFX from within Tasker? I was tinkering with Tasker earlier today and RenderFX was available under the Actions -> Plugin list, but it's not there anymore and I have no idea how it showed up or how to get it back.
[EVO 4G Android Development] stangdriverdoug:
I tried that....doesn't give me a option to save.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Regarding burning out NAND, Cyanogen responded via Twitter, and had this to say:

cyanogen @kpoz probably true, all my phones have bad flash blocks. Do a dmesg after booting and it will show them.

Anyone know what a dmesg is?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Techrocket9:
I just did a little bit of WiFi v. USB tether benchmarking, and the results are mostly inconclusive. All four runs were done on dslreports.com to the same server on the same computer within five minutes. Results below:

USB Tether: 134ms ping, 553 Kb Down, 143 Kb Up; 288 ping, 519 Down, 321 Up

WiFi Tether: 223ms ping, 777 KB Down, 338 Kb Up; 300 ping, 339 Down, 286 Up
[EVO 4G Android Development] jmlott:
dmesg is a linux command that shows log messages starting at boot time. You can run it from a terminal on the phone or from adb shell.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nicholaaaas:
looks like it... would love to see a fix for that
[EVO 4G Android Development] BigRick10:
If I long press on a mms I get some options. You don't get any??? I get copy attached to SD card
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
dmesg is a way to see if everything loaded correctly when the kernel was loaded. if any errors do occur (such as bad flash blocks), it'll show up in dmesg. think of it as a log of whatever happens during boot, including possible errors.

dmesg logs are populated *quickly* so you'd need to know what you're looking for and search through them.

that sounds pretty much like what i got. still, wifi will always be less than usb, with a higher latency.
[EVO 4G Android Development] stangdriverdoug:
Nope.....there is a tab to download....i press it but says failed too download.....when I long press there is no option to save.I'm just using the stock message program that comes with this rom.
[EVO 4G Android Development] BigRick10:
So am I. Weird.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nicholaaaas:
does your native mms app work. mine always fc's so i use handcent
[EVO 4G Android Development] BigRick10:
I'm using the stock messaging app that comes with the ROM. Here is screen shot of the option I get.
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
weird... i can't download, but i can copy to the sd card. there are a bunch of guys at the nightly thread. try asking there, guys. the link's in my sig.
[EVO 4G Android Development] laydros:
I think you can download them, it's just a stupid UI.

MMS is one area that neither AOSP or Sense have impressed me much. I can't remember which (maybe both) drop you straight into a slideshow just to look at one movie, and if you don't long click at the right time you can't download it.

Dumb.....
[EVO 4G Android Development] Techrocket9:
@shift_

I'm wondering, do you work for XDA or something? It seems like you are always here helping people. If not, what do you do that gives you so much free time and how can I get in on it?
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
LOL nah man, i used to be heavy into linux back in college and got a band of friends who were all into customizing kernels and stuff. i got busy and let it go. with the evo, i fell in love with linux again through android, and i learn through helping others. *shrugs*

as for time, i have some free time these days and i like spending it here... :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
How would that show if NAND is being damages by repeatedly flashing ROMs?
[EVO 4G Android Development] mrkmrk:
Note from the snap thread: New 5.01 version with minor modifications made available here. Quadrant scores with this kernel in comparison to quadrant scores with 5.0 are appreciated, and should be posted in the thread.
[EVO 4G Android Development] -shift-:
i haven't ever checked dmesg on nand, but i think it shouldn't be any different from how it is on a pc (going with sleepy memory recall here). it'll just note bad memory. it's kind of like a memory test, showing where it failed and whatnot.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xcopmanx2:
It shows, as things are loading, failed block messages.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kris54241:
Considering this is his rom ...everyone in here is running it...it'd be an easy question to answer
[EVO 4G Android Development] timothydonohue:
it is an easy question to answer. he pointed you to it. look in the themes section.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kris54241:
Alright...there 6000 threads ...if there's a theme that works someone could simply tell me the name of it
[EVO 4G Android Development] kris54241:
That's like if anyone comes in here wit a question and everyone says ...there's a question and answer section...be real not rude
[EVO 4G Android Development] Sporkman:
wow just wow
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
More on NAND burnout:

@cyanogen If anyone has burned out the NAND, it has to be you. Have you experienced any NAND failure?

@kpoz no, yaffs2 marks the blocks bad and moves on

I took Italian in high school and college. This, however, I don't understand. Anyone care to explain? Hopefully, this is helping the community.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Search for the word "theme." Other people don't remember the exact post, either.
[EVO 4G Android Development] vulcZ:
Installed the latest nightly, and so far so good.

I did notice that I have the option to record in 720p now however, although the camera app FC's every time I try to actually record at 720p. After that I get the infamous "cannot connect to camera" error. Rebooting the phone fixes it, however.
[EVO 4G Android Development] timothydonohue:
there was a question as to whether or not flashing the crap out of your phone weakens the integrity of NAND memory writing/reading. the question was asked to cyanogen, and basically his response probably affirms that flashing nightlies every night isn't going to make the sectors get better, lol.

one of his earlier responses was that most of his phones have some bad sectors. that could be because they just do, or because he flashes the crap out of them while he tests them. he didn't say that he had done a longitudinal study where he flashed one phone a lot and another not at all, and the one he flashed went bad. he just said that his phones have bad sectors. he also flashes his phones often. coincidence? who knows.

as to the yaffs thing, yaffs is an acronym. yet another flash file system. it's what these phones use. nand is how the i/o is determined. nand = not and. basically its calculations are based on binary in a nand execution.
[EVO 4G Android Development] infamousjax:
I've got bad sectors :(
[EVO 4G Android Development] spiicytuna:
I've got bad breath :(
[EVO 4G Android Development] bigant262:
Flashed the latest nightly and my network speeds have drastically went down. I don't get any bars of 3G. Maybe I oughta wipe data?? No clue, I'm thinking of just switching to a Sense rom, even though I like all the stock android stuff, like browser, dialer, etc... :(
[EVO 4G Android Development] jkinnison90:
Why not just go back to the nightly before? I've been switching back and fourth between Cyanogen and Sense.. definitely pro and cons on both that i like...
[EVO 4G Android Development] bigant262:
Holy crap, I think the latest nightly has damaged my radios or something. 3G speed used to be about 600kb-1MB now I'm only getting sometimes not even 100kb. I'm gonna flash my nand and see if it goes away, but I just flashed burnt droid rom, wiping and everything, and its the same speeds. :(
[EVO 4G Android Development] Benzzo:
Why are apps like amazon music and gesture search included in these nightlies?Does anybody actually use this stuff? Google goggles and sky map, pure message widgets... why? How do you remove this crap? Outstanding ROM of course but stuff like this is should be left to the market...
[EVO 4G Android Development] laydros:
Amazon music is kinda part of the android package, as an answer to iTunes. I think by default it is on all of the "Google Experience"phones. It is in the gapps package.

But the rest aren't part of the rom. Something didn't go right in your wipe before install. Maybe try switching recovery.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Sporkman:
Have to say this rom has me spoiled I went back to flipz 2.2 over night. Dont get me wrong flipz is a rom maker. I just can't give up my 25 hour battery life (I have data off when not needed )
[EVO 4G Android Development] zonyl:
The built in render fx plugin was pulled from cm6 after a coupe of days because it was draining the battery. Forgot who the author is but you can look him up from the github commit and see if you can get it a la cart.

Tasker FTW.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Benzzo:
Funny thing is I never installed goggles, pure widget, gestures or sky. They may have been part of Cyan powerup but I'm not sure. I found that I can uninstall with Titanium with no problems but was unsure about what was tied to the OS and what not. I think Amazon may be tied into the OS so I'll leave it but the rest had to go... lol
[EVO 4G Android Development] fldash:
I'm guessing no warranty work for burned out flash (especially since rooted)... :-/
[EVO 4G Android Development] johnpucillo:
I can already foresee the flaming and the messages stating I'm a total idiot and don't know **** about Android but I know that's not true so here goes... While flashing the loatest nightly my format card was completely reformatted leaving me with nothing. I don't care about most of the BS but I lost all my Nand backups, which was quite substantial. Weird as I've never heard of this happening. Has this happened to anyone else? Needless to say I'm pissed off and now have a ton of work ahead of me. It's not the sd card as I have never had this problem before
[EVO 4G Android Development] devgrp:
If you are using Aman-Ra you may have hit the format the format sd card by accident and didnt realize. I flashed every nightly and have never experience this problem.
[EVO 4G Android Development] pathtologos:
On the latest nightly (08092010), can anyone confirm that bluetooth is FULLY functional?

Mine works for wiimote and I don't really use it for other purposes. I've got a friend who uses it in her car and she's had some trouble with it.

Thanks.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
I've been the one asking him the questions. I was curious after someone posted the question in this forum.

As for your answer, it's fantastic. Very explanatory. Thank you!
[EVO 4G Android Development] cyanogen:
Theres absolutely ZERO chance that the ROM damaged your radio. Please don't make accusations like this without evidence.

Umm, the only ones you listed there that are included in the gapps packages are the Amazon music store (yeah I use this) and Goggles. The other stuff was probably restored by the backup service. We have a policy at CM to not include market apps, especially not warez.

I don't have any evidence to back up the theory that repeated flashing = deadnand, but I do have bad blocks and it's never been an issue. Yaffs2 checks at startup and marks them unavailable and life goes on.

We did have a problem with the Nexus where too many bad blocks on your boot partition will make it impossible to flash a decently large boot image. I slim down the kernels as much as possible to try to avoid it.

Also, DEATH RAY :eek::eek:
[EVO 4G Android Development] hx3:
There are many pre-installed apps/widgets included with Cyan Powerup. I remember seeing Goggles, the Pure widgets, Fancy Widget, Swype, some file manager and more.
[EVO 4G Android Development] pathtologos:
Cyanogen: Thanks so much for this rom. Everything else I've tried pales in comparison (opinion, of course). I've already submitted donations.

Any updates you can offer on HDMI-out or 4G?

Thanks!
[EVO 4G Android Development] stangdriverdoug:
Finally got this rom dialed in and it's blazing fast......haven't tried blue tooth yet, wonder if hdmi works
[EVO 4G Android Development] tranquilchaos:
CM6-Snap-Experimental-zImage Download

CM6-Snap-Experimental WiFi Module Download (this one doesn't work)

Anyone know where the working link to the "wifi" module download is?

Also, what's the biggest advantage to flashing Snap on top of CM6? In fact, what is Snap? Is it just to increase system performance? Are there any major risks involved in installing it?
[EVO 4G Android Development] fldash:
If anyone is interested, I created my own GApps package that's signed. I removed Facebook, Amazon MP3, Google Maps, Google Voice, and maybe a few other things... I removed Maps and Voice because I want to install them in /data/ instead of /system, I don't know if that matters to be honest, but I wanted them listed in the Market and thus updateable (not sure if they are if they are installed in /system via a flashed file).
[EVO 4G Android Development] DraginMagik:
not bashing you at all...that crap sux. However, you do bring up an excellent point.

NAND backups are great, but they are even better when you occasionally copy them onto your local hard drive. you know...just in case. :)

thank you for reminding us why this is an important practice.

i even have a copy of my sd card. i need to write up a script to automate the copy new/delete old for both the sd card and NAND backups. the nand more often than the sd card.
[EVO 4G Android Development] fldash:
I use Snap because it undervolts the processor which can save some battery life, and offers some degree of OC if you are into that... My benchmark scores aren't out of this world, when compared with the packaged CM6 kernel though.

With 5.01 and 8/9 nightly, I did get 1644 quadrant, and 48 linpack. That was at 1228 CPU Freq and Performance scaling in SetCPU. However, I don't use those settings on my phone normally, I don't OC normally and have scaling set to OnDemand.
[EVO 4G Android Development] tranquilchaos:
While I understand where you got those numbers, I really don't know what they all mean...For instance, I have CM6 and got a 1255 quadrant reading....I have an idea when compared to other scores, but ultimately no clue if that's considered solid or not. As far as the 48 linpack, no clue. haha

I'd really like to understand this if you don't mind giving me a brief description.
[EVO 4G Android Development] timothydonohue:
linpack measures the # of calculations per second it can do, in megaflops (floating point operations per second). higher is better.

quadrant measures several different components, 3d processing, computational processing, and read/write speeds are all part of it. higher number is better.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bryank930:
I'm still having problems with voicemail. When I get a voicemail, I get the text message. I really don't care about that. What I do care about is when I delete the message from my voicemail box, the stupid notification icon keeps popping up telling me that I have another message when I really don't.

Why is this ROM the only one I've tried that has this problem? Oh btw, I'm on 8/8 nightly. I should say, I WAS on 8/8 nightly. I nandroided back to DC 3.5 where I'll stay until issues like this are fixed.
[EVO 4G Android Development] johnpucillo:
That is quite possible. You do make an excellent point of backing up my nands which i will do in the future, Thanks for the feedback
[EVO 4G Android Development] Fixter:
Anyone has a solution for the people that can't use the voice app?
[EVO 4G Android Development] nicholaaaas:
i know google maps is. i've seen an update for it at least once
[EVO 4G Android Development] fldash:
Interesting thanks... I wonder how that works... Maybe the .APK has a command in it to add the link to the Market db and link them...
[EVO 4G Android Development] ajftl:
Google voice .....google voice ....
[EVO 4G Android Development] brock1909:
my google voice wont set up. it wont change the voicemail number inder settings. so i just installed the native sprint one..
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Thanks for all of the information regarding the potential NAND problem and for coming to the forum to clarify the issue. I was intrigued when it was posted (I don't remember who asked originally, however) and I figured you would have the best answer.

Thanks again.
[EVO 4G Android Development] fldash:
I asked because it's flash memory. And flash has limited lifetime with regards to the number of writes it can take...
[EVO 4G Android Development] nicholaaaas:
doesn't titanium restore market links?
[EVO 4G Android Development] pathtologos:
Anyone use BT yet, can answer this please?
[EVO 4G Android Development] fldash:
Yes, but it can easily get them from the sqlite database where as when you push something to system/app there is no way for the correct entry to be entered in the database... Take SetCPU for example. If you get it from the Market, it's shown in the Market and updateable, if you download it from here, and push it to your phone, it's not shown in the Market.
[EVO 4G Android Development] hooover:
I have finally found something I miss about sense...the face book for sense app...only because I can upload many pics at a time and creat new albums and all...with regular facebook its just not happening!!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] rajah sulayman:
Thanks for the reply. For a second there I thought no one would have an answer.

Out of curiosity, do you know how/why it was draining battery?
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Hopefully, nobody will run into any problems. A large portion of the people in this thread are flashing at a feverish pace.
[EVO 4G Android Development] laydros:
Don't do anything with the card and look into some sort of recovery software. I think in the Ava thread someone just mentioned they formatted their SD card and needed pictures off it, and some software was recommended, and I think the poster said it worked.

I had to use some sort of drive recovery on a computer before because my wife wanted some files after I formatted the HDD. The recovery found tons of stuff, including things from the previous owner from like 2 years prior, including his vast porno collection.

Which also brings up the point that any memory card or hard drive you throw away or sell etc. will have all your stuff on it. Including porn and credit card numbers.