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[Captivate General] uberamd:
I never claimed that Android was worse on the dev/hack/mod side. But ya see, most users don't care about that stuff. Your average user doesn't care.

And that Toshiba (which is a crap brand to begin with) has a 18.4" screen with a terrible 1680x945 resolution. No thanks.

And as I said, EVERY PLATFORM HAS ITS BENEFITS. I didn't say Android or iOS was better, they both have their pros and cons. Anyone who says otherwise is a fanboy.
[Captivate General] tysj:
XDA isn't the kind of place for fanboyism and arguing. Seriously, take this somewhere else or do PMs.
[Captivate General] YellowGTO:
Please buy an IP4.
[Captivate General] echoside:
...multitasking is what makes a phone a smartphone? Hahah I was on your side but....uughhhh your one of the reasons why I stay away from forums.....haha

Yes it is easy out of the box. But you research android and you find a ton of things to do with it (rom's, kernals...) iPhone has jailbreaking.
[Captivate General] uberamd:
HP laptops have the highest failure rate of any computer. And (as I said above) that thing will have no resale value in 2-3 years. Once you subtract the money I get back from selling my Mac hardware, the cost is around $900.

I sold my $1800 15" MacBook Pro a year and a half later for $1450, a loss of $350. Find me a PC that depreciates only $350 in 1 1/2 years, please.

And why did this turn into a Mac vs. PC thing? I like my Mac, and I have used PC's all my life and spend ALL DAY at work (40 hours a week in the summer, 26 hours a week during the school year) fixing busted PC hardware. I see first hand these things failing constantly. I wanted a no-frills system and I got one, end of story.
[Captivate General] uberamd:
Er no, I did the iPhone thing for a few years but I love my Android devices (see my sig, I currently use 3 different ones). I am happy with them, they are all nice, quality devices. I just wish the Milestone would get its bootloader unlocked!
[Captivate General] YellowGTO:
What is the exact model apple laptop you have?
[Captivate General] echoside:
1. Its a phone

2. Its a phone

3. Its a phone

4. No phone is perfect

5. Not liking a phone isn't a personal insult

6. Its a phone

7. What phone you have doesn't make your.....bigger.....its a phone

8. Get over yourselves

9. Its a phone

10. Do I have to say it again?
[Captivate General] TexUs:
Funny he replies to everyone other than the person that provided the citations that proved him wrong... LOL

You are an Apple fanboy. Quicker we establish this and you admit it the quicker we can move on.

Nope, it's ONE of the things... That was a key missing item for the iPhone to move into smartphone territory however... Being it's not true multitasking you still have to question it. As smartphones deal with APIs that directly can interface with the OS itself and... Apple's version of that doesn't allow for that (It's not true multitasking). Is the "illusion" of multitasking enough to consider it as such? I don't know. That's why I'm on the fence on calling it a smartphone now or not.
[Captivate General] Intervenient:
I've come to the conclusion that Android is great, but this phone is not. I'm sick of dancing bars, crappy GPS, untimed messages, and using my phone for an hour and a half and seeing 82% battery. Sorry to say, but my iPhone never did that.
[Captivate General] carporsche:
I completely agree with all these points..

I have many friends who are apple fans, for some reason they think all the amazing things in the tech world have been created by Apple...

And the air of superiority they have , is so annoying where they never thought any other thing would come close to even challenging them.

Time for them to wake up, honeymoon period is over.

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[Captivate General] YellowGTO:
Please return it. Go back to the Iphone.
[Captivate General] TexUs:
I wouldn't exactly be complaining about dancing bars (you're actually complaining about more real-time info???)... And also, bars mean jack... If you still get a signal, who cares?

GPS is given, hopefully Samsung will fix it. Personally I never use mine so whatever.

The messages issue is a software issue... Easy fix.

Battery life is on par with my 3GS so I don't quite understand people complaining about it... I have tons of widgets and auto-updating, 3G, WiFi, Bluetooth, the works. If possible if you could plug your device in mid-day while you work or something- that might work for you??

Especially considering HOW MUCH MORE this phone does than the iPhone, it's really quite amazing it lasts as long as it does.
[Captivate General] Intervenient:
Why's that?
[Captivate General] uberamd:
I'm an Apple fanboy who is currently making an Android-based market website, owns 3 Android phones, is part of the Android developer community, who got started using the developer G1, loves playing with roms on my Nexus One, got rid of my iPhone 4 for a Captivate, uses his server to mirror linux distros, and has a laptop with the Android robot on the lid of it? Yes, I sure am an Apple fanboy... Silly me, what was I thinking not realizing that. Thanks so much for enlightening me... :) Did ya ever think that maybe its possible to like both Apple and Android stuff? I know, crazy huh?
[Captivate General] Intervenient:
Dancing bars is more annoyance than anything. I just don't like the look of it.

What are the chances of Samsung fixing the GPS and messanging? This would be detrimental in me keeping my phone. Also the accelerometer is terrible.

I could charge it half way, but still it's more of a convenience thing.

I can live with the accelerometer, maybe even the messaging, but the GPS and battery for me are biggies.

Which is a shame because I really like Android :(
[Captivate General] echoside:
I feel like its going to be a gang war OMGZ!!!! Don't walk around south central with your iPhone out people will jump out and pull an SD card gun out from behind there pocket protecter and shoot you with them!!! Obviously the iPhone user will melt because the sdcard has android roms on it....
[Captivate General] carporsche:
Hey Uberamd

Apple makes amazing products. I have full respect for their engineers.

The single most thing that makes me hate apple products is the attitude of Steve Jobs. Maybe you like people telling you "how to hold your phone"..

How can you say tht "other phones face the same problem.... ".. Its agreeing to the fact that Apple doesnt make great products anymore. There is more to this but i think i'll stop here.....

Dont you feel its insulting when you are the consumer and you find a defect in ur product and instead of providing a solution , you are taken for granted. Your attitude is exactly the reason for Steve Jobs' smugness.

In the end its Your call .
[Captivate General] asrrin29:
So every other brand of computer is "worse" than your mac? We had three users in the span of a few minutes give you a plethora of cheaper alternatives, and you shoot every single one down without even a thought.

Who's the fanboi again?

As far as the phones go, the iphone hardware and OS are on par with all the newer phones. However the restrictions placed artificially on the hardware and OS by Apple render it useless as a device to all but an end user.
[Captivate General] uberamd:
The battery is quite good, I just wish the indicator in the corner was a hair more accurate. An update should fix that.

Because criticizing the device leads Fandroids to tell you to go back, as if they personally designed the phone. I will tell you that software updates should fix most of your concerns.

Oh, and TexUs lets also ignore the fact that I, the big Apple fanboy in your eyes, made a detailed video that has quite a few youtube views that shows you how to install Android on an iPod Touch. Theres MORE proof I'm an Apple fanboy! My god, thanks again for showing me the light!

/sarcasm
[Captivate General] YellowGTO:
Because, this phone is brand new. It just launched. If you want a perfect device buy one thats a year or so old. If you want bleeding edge your going to have to wait for the bugs to be sorted out. ***** about porbs wont help any. The devs are working on the phone. Either A. notify the forum of the prob. B. Work on the phone and fix the prob. C. Sit patiently and wait for an OTA update or D. Return the phone and get a new one.
[Captivate General] uberamd:
The antenna issue bothered me a lot. If you want proof of that, go to MacRumors and look at my posts under the same username. I was one of the most vocal people on those forums complaining and demanding a fix for this issue. I wrote countless threads and even sent an email to sjobs@apple.com voicing my frustrations. In the end, I got rid of my iPhone 4. So where you are getting this information that I accepted the antenna issue, I don't know. Want proof? Go take a look at my post history on MacRumors if it is that much of a concern to you, there are a TON of posts by me complaining and being angry about it.
[Captivate General] uberamd:
No, I looked at each one and decided I didn't like them. Again, I have a nice computer with a good battery and I like it. End of story. I also own a Lenovo ThinkPad SL410, a Dell XPS Gaming Desktop, and I created my own Hackintosh G5 mod PC. I like both PC's and Mac's, but for a laptop I decided to buy a Mac and sell my Dell E1505. It is possible to like both Mac and PC, just like it is possible to like both Apple and Android.
[Captivate General] TexUs:
They should fix them... Keep in mind this is still Week 1. I just remember seeing a thread start about the messaging issues yesterday, so...

Like another person said, it's called BLEEDING edge. If you want something stable then you should get something like the N1...

Apple (Jobs) is just the biggest lying sack of crap on this earth...

"Our phones are the best... Oh wait, no they aren't: see look, other phones are like this too"

I don't hate Apple as a company anymore due to their products (which cost more for less), but just Apple the company (Jobs). Just corporate arrogance. It'll bite them in the ass (It already did on their OS X line when Windows 7 came out).

He didn't shoot mine down. In fact, he whined and cried for proof and when he got it, suddenly he's quiet about those issues now...

It's called crippling the device by design.

Two examples I already gave... FM Tuner and 720p recording. Both were capable in the 3GS, Apple just didn't turn them on.

WHY is that? Well, so they can naturally turn them on LATER and make a brand new sale by labeling them as new features.

You're backpedaling so fast I think time is starting to slow down.
[Captivate General] uberamd:
Then you address my comments about why I'm NOT a fanboy (the Android site I am building (amrevs.com Android Market Reviews, check the whois), the 3 Android devices I own, my vocal complaining about the iPhone 4 on MacRumors, the fact I am a paid Android developer, the fact that I started development work with the original G1, and the fact that I plastered a friggin Android sticker on my laptop). Please, address those reasons coupled with the fact that I do own a Lenovo ThinkPad SL410, Dell XPS Gaming Desktop, and the fact that I did create a Hackintosh system out of an old G5 case, and tell me how that makes me an Apple fanboy. I'm dying to hear this one. I am dying to know how, despite owning 3 Android phones and PC's, oh and despite the fact that I am devoting a ton of time to creating an Android website, I am a Apple fanboy. This is gonna be good, I await your response.
[Captivate General] carporsche:
I dont havto do a background check to reply to forum posts. "Your attitude" did not point out to you specifically, but i am surrounded by apple fanboys who fail to accept things the way you have accepted..

You fall maybe into tht 1% category who is mature enough to realize Apple defects and move onto other products, but the majority of Apple consumers still are in an abyss which they refuse to come out of.
[Captivate General] YellowGTO:
uberamd

Where did you get that Android sticker?
[Captivate General] uberamd:
I was simply saying that there are a lot of naysayers here who are calling me a fanboy, so if you really want to see I'm not, all that information is floating around the internet.

As for your comment about accepting defects, I think that is what a lot of people do with products. I am the kind of guy that has always put my phone in a case. I have cases for my Nexus One, and pretty much every other phone I have ever owned. So with a case the issue didn't exist for me, but I was still upset.

However I don't think its customers accepting the issue blindly, I think they are just weighing the pros and cons and deciding from there. People tend to get attached to devices they own, and they are willing to put up with a lot from that company because in their mind the downsides to owning the device aren't as great as the positives. I haven't yet run across any phone I would call perfect, and when I do I guess that marks the end of innovation because I don't really think any device can be perfect.

Oh, and TexUs, I have some more "I'm not a fanboy" proof for you. Take a look at My youtube channel please. I still am waiting for your explanation of why I'm a fanboy as well. I'm dying to read it.
[Captivate General] uberamd:
I got it about 6 months ago from http://davidlindberg.name/decals/
[Captivate General] techlogik:
Really? Well what exactly can you really do with your new Galaxy right now? Not much....except for what was built into the basic ROM. Not much different than the iPhone...with Samsungs bad history and reputation of Rom/Upgrade support..you might never see a Rom with this thing...

Hope I am all wrong though...
[Captivate General] echoside:
Android phones are nice iphones are nice the only real "issue" with BOTH of them are the people that own them. (Not all people just the people that get offended by critisism) like I said earlier....its a phone.....big picture of life people won't be like he cured aids...but he owned an iPhone or he owned an Android so he is a complete douche and I wish he was never born.....
[Captivate General] uberamd:
I don't know echoside, rumor has it the new Droid 2 can cure aids. You just need to unlock the bootloader.
[Captivate General] echoside:
I stand corrected then.... :-)
[Captivate General] ttu98ss:
I came from an iPhone 4 to a captivate, and I'm happy with it.

I had all 4 generations of iPhone in a row, and was kinda getting bored with it, although the retina display is freaking NICE. Finally the proximity sensor pushed me over the edge, after getting a replacement phone with the same issue I was just sick of it.

The iPhone 4 display is insane, and IMO it takes better still pictures.... but the captivate is a VERY nice device.

If they can fix the GPS issue I will be completely happy here. I'm tempted to take it back if they don't fix it :( GPS is a big deal for me. I used that feature all the time on iPhone

Other than that the phone is awesome, Froyo will be nice, and I wouldn't mind having the option of running vanilla android, but launcherPro will do for now
[Captivate General] KryptosXLayer2:
I'm gonna stop you right there, friend. I said I bought a USED LAPTOP, you know, of the $200 variety, when I was a college student. I didn't give 2 red cents about how much the INVESTMENT was into it, how much I would be able to turn around and make in the end. That's the problem with your theory here! You think that for some reason, you NEED all this crap and that makes you somehow right in your mind! YOU are being shortsighted by the fact that YOU are in college and don't need all this extra stuff you're talking about! Hell, what are you even doing wasting all this time online for, anyways? With a Business Management degree and working as much as I did, I didn't have time to argue how right I thought I was at your age on the internet........

And you know, regardless of how long ago it was, my entire college tuition was MANY times yours, so don't sit here and say "poor me" when some of us paid $100K over the course of my college career with out-of-state tuition. Try doing that and tell me how awesome your $1900 CRApple is........ Damn that makes me pissed thinking about this guy, wow!

The quote of the decade was when Jobs said ‎"We are just a band of people working our asses off to surprise and delight people. We are human." No, you are a JACKASS, Steve.... "This has been blown so out of proportion, it's incredible" - what's incredible is that well over 3 million people went out and bought your shoddy **** and NOW you "fix it" by giving away free cases? That's going to make me want to buy from them again???

LINK AS PROOF since we need them for this thread:

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE66E52I20100716

EDIT - here's an even better link with the whole text from the Q&A.... what a smug SOB Jobs is, I would HATE to work for or with someone this much of a @$$

http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/...ne-4-press-conference/?sort=newest&refresh=60
[Captivate General] uberamd:
Garcia, I own a Mac, get over it. It doesn't concern you. It has nothing to do with you. It doesn't impact your life in any way, so stop caring about it. Employees at Google own Macs. Developers here own Macs. Wow, right? Go yell at them too. I'm flattered that you even went out of your way to write such a long message over the fact that I own a Mac. Clearly you must not have much going on in your life that writing a long message about me is a priority to you. Also, I really REALLY hope you give everyone this much crap if they don't drive a used Honda Civic. Seriously. Because anyone who drives an expensive car must piss you off just as much as I seem to piss you off by owning a freaking computer.

In conclusion, my personal life, products I own, and what I do in my spare time aren't your business. I work full time during the summer, I work 26 hours a week during the school year, and I'm a full time student. Sorry you had no spare time when you were in school, maybe I'm just smarter and don't need to study as hard as you. Get a life.
[Captivate General] KryptosXLayer2:
Spoken by a true sucker of the Apple variety.... so funny that you just said everything I said, but now directed it at me. Actually, I'm pretty successful and own two nice cars, but that's from working hard and not blowing tons of money on stuff I don't NEED.

Have a great life with your head up Job's @$$! You'll get really far in life continuing on your path!
[Captivate General] uberamd:
Wait wait wait wait wait. It isn't OK for me to own a laptop that costs $1900, but it is ok for you to own not one, but TWO nice cars? Wow, thats quite the double standard ya got there. I'm not even going to try to make sense of what you say because its nearly impossible. I can't own a laptop thats nice, but you can own two cars (which are over 20x more money). Yep, that makes no sense.

And call me an Apple fanboy, but explain these points then:

If I'm an Apple fanboy, why do I own 3 Android phones?

Why do I have a MacBook Pro with a large Android sticker on it?

Why did I pay the developer fee for Android?

Why did I pay the high cost for a Nexus One and Developer G1?

Why am I creating a site called Android Market Reviews? (amrevs.com)

Why do my YouTube channel videos bash the iPhone 4 signal antenna?

Why do my YouTube Channel videos show you how to install Android on an iPod Touch?

Why do I own a PC desktop?

Why do I actively bash the iPhone in the MacRumors forums? Example 1 Example 2 Example 3

But please smart one, tell me how I am an Apple fanboy with my head up Steve Job's @$$. Please, please oh please oh please point that out to me. I'm dying to hear your explanations. I await your reply, ya know, pointing out how I have my head up Steve's ass. If anything I'm more of an Android fanboy.
[Captivate General] outz:
how old are you that you associate successful with owning "two nice cars" ? do you have a double-wide trailer too?
[Captivate General] dsjr2006:
Lol. Why is this thread about these two guys only now btw?
[Captivate General] uberamd:
Didn't you get the memo, its pick on uberamd day today.
[Captivate General] carporsche:
Hey uberamd.

I support you dude.

You seem to be the one man army here. I'll join u tp make the fight fair. :)
[Captivate General] egzthunder1:
Pointless fighting... in either case, flaming and being disrespectful is against XDA rules. I am not going to spend time cleaning this up, because quite honestly, it will do absolutely nothing...

Thread closed.

BTW, next time, please open this kind of threads in the Off Topic section as it isn't even related to the Samsung Captivate.
[Vibrant General] newspeak:
So while trying to resolve the gps issue I somehow got my phone into a force close loop...i wiped the phone and it was still doing the same thing...so I took it down to the store for an exchange...now I am worried because all I could do was wipe the phone and I am sitting here thinking that they might see that it was rooted and blame it on that and charge me or something...anyone have any experience with this sort of thing
[Vibrant General] rshemeld:
I have to exchange my g1 and that was rooted with all sorts of rooted apps on it b.c of software issues/harware issues and i had no extras on my bill..im sure you dont have to worry
[Vibrant General] jrwingate6:
I don't think they look into it that much man. If anyone is going to see that it's rooted it will be Samsung. T-Mobile sends it's defected devices back to the manufacturer where they are wiped then flashed with the original software.
[Vibrant General] s15274n:
No worries man. Noticed any difference in the two phones? REALLY NOTICED?
[Vibrant General] newspeak:
I just get paranoid about these things...i saw a thread about how htc won't take phones that are rooted...hopefully samsung doesn't dig too deep

I have another problem that I don't think xda can solve...the phone seems to be glued to my hand ;)
[Vibrant General] renegadedj:
i'm losing sleep and in a rush to work because i leave late from the house because of this phone. is there a hotline for my issues?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Papa Smurf151:
This is a teaser of the rom I'm releasing tonight. I've got a few things to clean up on it and then its out. Let me know what u think.

Based off of fresh rom 2.3.3

Fully themed with a ton of mods
[Hero CDMA Android Development] bycoo222:
dude thats sick cant wait to try it
[Hero CDMA Android Development] bugmenever:
SOOOOO EXCITED!!!!!! Will it be available tonight?!?!?!?!?!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Papa Smurf151:
If all goes well tonight will be the night. I've got a couple of buttons that r off color and icons not in color yet. Its 99% done.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] mdsj:
Can we get some more details?!? Looks good though.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Papa Smurf151:
Yeah...oc/UV 710 darchshiz #15

Rotery lock

A2sd 2.7.5 u4a

270 rotation

Red see through app drawer mod

5 different launchers

4 themed keyboards

Fully themed Red Facebook

Fully themed market

Fieldstream

Weather widget on newsfeed clear (see first screen shot) mod

Color menues

Based off fresh 2.3.3 so its the .6 version

Newest spareparts

Newest superuser

Almost all apps r themed

Need more info...
[Hero CDMA Android Development] bugmenever:
CAN'T WAIT!!!!!

You rule Big Poppa!!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Redjp85:
Sweet. Im gettin it when it drops.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Papa Smurf151:
Its only gonna let me upload one imiage from phone at a time. Ugh. I've got two more and I'm done
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Papa Smurf151:
Here is another
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Papa Smurf151:
And the last one
[Hero CDMA Android Development] rulyskull:
most sexy .
[Hero CDMA Android Development] smackfreek:
This looks good
[Hero CDMA Android Development] TOOLhead08:
Looks good. Definitely trying this out tonight!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] VinceOB:
Good job man! That launcher looks familiar. LOL
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Papa Smurf151:
LOL hmmm I wonder why. BTW all credits will be given when I release tonight. But thanks for the complement. Means a lot coming from u.