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[Galaxy S I9000 General] Logicalstep:
I guess it is just a downside, but it's a pretty big one considering how samsung bit back at steve jobs fir saying the iphone screen is better. Jobs is right by the way ip4 is much crisper. Strange that none of the reviews would mention about these red things around the text. Every review I've read before buying said this screen was amazing clarity. Ib guess I must have better eyesight than these 40 something tech journalists!

Logicalstep
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Robin.B:
Really? I mean... REALLY, does this bother you? How close do you guys hold the screen up to your eyes? I notice this easily at 6-8 inches but seriously, when do you EVER need to hold it that close?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kcharng:
I am trying to see the red edge you are taking about from the xda app. The texts on this application are white with black background and vice verser.

Trying as hard as I can I couldn't see them. Are you using any screen protector? Are you sure it is not the diffraction from the protector causing this effect?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] INeedYourHelp:
Maybe because it does?:confused: I don't think there's a review that says the SGS screen is superior to the Iphone 4. They both have their positives and negatives. I looked at the ebooks that come with the SGS and I could easily read them without any problems or strain on the eyes.

People here are so picky. This doesn't work, that doesn't look right, they should have done this instead blah blah blah. I'm I using the same phone? cause I'm enjoying mine.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Pika007:
I can't understand why the hell people are going out of their way in such an amazing way to find stuff like this that NOBODY seems to notice even under heavy use.

No one complained about it in the nexus (nor about the green stripe/red stripe)

Yet, if you look for it- IT'S THERE. LIKE ON EVERY GODDAMN AMOLED SCREEN IN THE MARKET.

*This said, i can't see any red "outlines" on white text.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] eaglesteve:
OP, you're too picky. This is probaly the most perfect non-iPhone screen money could buy now. Enjoy it. ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Pika007:
If you look VEEEEEEERY closely, you can find a fair share if impurities in the iPhone screen as well. Mostly poor uniformity of back light dispertion (although a LED screen, it's FRAME led, not local dimming)

And some bleeding in bright shades of red.

Plus, the "blacks" are tinted purple.

All those are tpyical for IPS panels, but if you don't look for them under a magnifying glass (like people are doing here with the SGS), it's very unlikely you'll even notice.

Each technology has it's advantages and disadvantages. Currently all reviews agree unanimously- The SAMOLED screen on the SGS and the iPhone 4 retina display are the two best displays out there, without a definite first place between those two.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Logicalstep:
Listen I know some of you are quick to say I'm complaining and that I'm being too picky, but I'm only reporting what I noticed to be true on my phone. I posted to see if anyone else could see thee same thing. Not once didi mention I can't live with it, but for me I can see it and I'm suprised that in all the review they haven't mentioned about the red halo around entire text, your telling me that s not a fundamental thing? Come on, fir some people being promised the latest and greatest screen this might turn out to be issue.

Just to be clear, apart v ffrom this and a few small software issues,i love this phone, so please no flaming me for digging at the sgs.

Logicalstep
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kcharng:
red halo around the entire text. sounded like you have a defect on your hand. My Galaxy s have no such problem.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] scotthubbard:
This is a problem with the pentile technology they use in the screen, the screen can't display white on each individual pixel, it needs to blend the colours from two pixels together to create white. This can make text quite jagged and make the white bleed slightly at the edges.

I too am a little surprised this wasn't picked up in review (although trusted reviews did pick this up) but I think this raises an important point, you need to make you're own mind up and not just rely on reviews. You wouldn't normally spend this type of money on anything thing else without using it yourself first, and its mainly the impatient ones who couldn't wait long enough to try it themselves first who then have the complaints, that's the risk you take! ps I didn't try it first, too impatient :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] drleospaceman:
It's not a downside to amoled screens, it's a downside to samsung's proprietary pentile matrix. Pentile is not inherent to AMOLED; every other AMOLED manufacturer besides Samsung use normal RGB sub pixels.

Not on the Cowon S9/J3, Zune HD, Sony XE-1, or LG EL9500. I've taken macro pictures of my S9's screen and it is RGB.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Pika007:
Ok, 90% of the amoled screens floating around on the market. happy?

The vast majority of amoled screens use RGBG.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] alovell83:
I used "flashlight" application to look for the green & red lines on a white screen. I thought I might have seen the green line, but I couldn't even be sure to be honest, and there almost definitely wasn't a red line.

I looked at the text a little closer than I previously had and I felt I could see red within white text, however I didn't have a "red sticking out edges" problem. In every day use, and I use the screen primarily for reading internet articles and text messaging, I have never seen the colors within white text.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Logicalstep:
hmm it odd, f I launch the google home page in the browser, I can definitely see a Green line down the right hand side.

I wonder if my screen as some kind of alignment problem. I donlt even have to look that close to see it, it's a one pixel wide line down the left. and if I look to the bottom and right I see red pixels sticking out from the screen.

I realise that Pentile will make text a little jagged, but should it be this obvious?

I mean the clarity of text on this screen is very jagged compared to my Blackstone, even when I look very closely at that.

Logi
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kcharng:
This is the best macro my camera can do at 100% crop.

Try taking the same picture and compare if your screen exhibit unacceptable differences, you may have a defective screen on your hand.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] flamingpitofhell:
I can see what you're talking about, for me it's one green line down the left and a fainter red one down the right. But this is only on a white screen and when I look hard for it from about 10cm away - it's no big deal.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Logicalstep:
What part of the foums were you taking that image of, I can;t see it like that anywhere, I'd like to do a direct comparison if possible.

Thanks

Logi
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kcharng:
Using xda app

full brightness

Photo taken from a page one level up from this thread.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Logicalstep:
Finally I have taken some pictures.

Let me know what you think. TO me it just looks like thats the way the Pentile matrix works.

The second one has a drop of water to 'magnify' the pixels.

Logicalstep
[Galaxy S I9000 General] alovell83:
98% chance it's the pentile display, but I don't understand the point of macro lenses, water drops and microscopes unless you run a blog (cough, engadget) and want to either dig something up or make your favorite (Apple) product shine next to it.

Yes, it is important, if you see this to try to get to the bottom if it, but in my experience, I have to strain my eyes to see anything close to this. Then, after confirming the issue, I kind of think I could "see" the same thing on my computer screen if using a similar resolution. By "see" here, I am definitely implying that the image is both self-fufilling and also a bit of a vicious cycle where my eyes are hurting and thus seeing spots, much akin (though not an analogy) to starring at a light and then looking away.

*I do wear glasses, to correct my near-sightedness and they might make it harder to distinguish said effects, however I know it's no small minority that have vocalized similar.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kcharng:
Logicalstep,

Your picture does looked similar to mine. I think we both in agreement that is normal operation of the Pentile matrix type display.

The red edges are definitely there. I cannot say that the problem is overly exaggerated. I have asked my medical friends and they do indeed point out that there are cases of people with specific colour sensitivity.

So I guess, if this screen continues to irritate and bother you then surely it is time to buy into a different display technology.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] The.Opethian:
In my opinion, Super AMOLED blows everything else out of the water.

BUT, if another person is easily irritated by these green and red lines (of which thanks to you guys I now seem to notice), well one would have to ask if it is worth switching over, giving up all that makes this phone a great one, for a different device.

Again, in my opinion, I'd rather have good display under sunlight, good crisp blacks, compared to a display that may be very sharp, but physically smaller and doesn't have the same colour output.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Logicalstep:
Yeah I'm not trying to make any points really about how much better or worst the iphone 4 screen is, but it IS alot crisper.

The macro picture was just to see if it looked the same as the other pic. The water just to show how the Pentile works on the screen.

This isn;t going to make me give up this phone or anything, but it is very apparent to me and it does make me wonder why no reviewers have picked up on it.

There are pro's and Con's to any screen, but this just seems like a very obvious one to me.

I notice it all the time when surfing the web, you can see most when you have White text on a black background. And it's not just when I look closely.

I'm not sure how close you guys hold your phones to your face, but at 8- 10 Inches it's noticeable.

Logicalstep
[Galaxy S I9000 General] SlowRain:
This issue interests me. I'd heard of it twice already, and this makes the third time.

I'm planning on buying an i9000 and using it primarily for reading e-books and surfing the internet. Is there some sort of workaround for e-books? By that, I mean is there some way to use some other color similar to white (it's white that causes the problem, right?)? At night, I read in bed with the lights off, the screen to black, and the text to grey. Will the red-pixel issue be noticeable like that? Do you notice this when watching video on the internet?

Thanks.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
that is how AMOLE and S-AMOLED screen works.

people are just NOT used to it, because they are confused and believes it should work like the old LCD displays, but that believe is WRONG!

personally i can't even see those pixel red/blue unless i use a Magnifier

probably people that are complaining about the purple/red/pinkish/blue/green fonts on the screen, have 20-20 vision and they don't need glasses
[Galaxy S I9000 General] The.Opethian:
I think you have better eyesight than me then. :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Logicalstep:
AllGamer

That's probably not the patronising thing I've read on here, but it's close.

I don;t care what technology is in my phone I'm not 'Confused' it just surprises me that this hasn;t been picked up in any reviews!

It'a a big failing of this type of screen and REALLY affects the resolution, yet people are only banging on about how great the contrast and colours are.

Well yes they are great, but Text looks awful, White on Dark.

Logicalstep
[Galaxy S I9000 General] barakoas:
Maybe u couldnt see this problem mentioned in review simply because they didnt notice it at all.. as i cant see any red edges doesnt matter how close im looking on my screen.. i simply enjoying this amazing screen! have it for few weeks and still cant get used to it how great this screen is! :D
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
there is a very easy way to "enhance" those red/blue sub pixels.

i got 2 sets of Screen protector, the Clear ones, and the MIRROR ones

the Clear ones works just as is fine and clean

however when i put on the Mirror ones, those red/blue pixels are very noticeable.

enough to be very annoying, for the same reason i stopped using the Mirror type screen protector

They are really cool looking, makes the phone super cool, but.... is very annoying to the eyes, not to mention all the extra reflection glare you get from surrounding lights.

it was perfect to cone my hair....

in the end i switched back to the clear ones, it was a bit too much of a eye strain trying to read with the red/blue highlight

so, yes i know exactly what those people are complaining about.

fortunately, under NORMAL operations they are not visible, only visible when using some types of screen protectors.

i have also another set of clear screen protector, this type being a little bit thicker, and it sort of do the same thing as the mirror type, but because they are transparent, it's not as noticeable.

i think it has to do with the Prismatic effect of the screen protector and the red/blue OLED

the thinner the screen protector, the less prismatic effect on the OLED
[Galaxy S I9000 General] SlowRain:
I went went to a different store today and tried their demo unit, and I still can't see the red pixels. I think I'm immune.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
it does really comes down to eye sights :D

it's not a screen defect, unless it has been dropped and started showing weird lines across the screen as some people have posted pictures of.

in that case the guy didn't drop the screen it came from factory like that

it's surprising how a screen with a defective display passed the QA department. :confused:
[Galaxy S I9000 General] plemen:
I see the green line on the left of the browser but I don't see any colour around the text - could very well be that your eyesight is better/different than mine.

Do you see this on other SGS phones as well?

cheers.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] alovell83:
I think it's somewhat obvious why this wasn't spotted in reviews, think about this thread. How many people are defending this screen? Most people. Think about the real issues of the phone; GPS, Kies, lag, etc. Everyone is showing up with something and posting how their experience is bad with X or X, Y & Z.

You just have sensitive eyes and a macro lens, kinda like Engadget.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Logicalstep:
I'm not sure I have 'special eyes' ;)

My business partner here has an SGS as well and he has the same thing, although he didn't notice it until I pointed it out, but his screen is exactly the same as mine.

I don;t think it's a quality control issue, I just think these screens have a bad resolution, far worst than people are saying. Yes it's ok if you hold your phone far away when using it, but then so is any screen.

I'm coming from a blackstone and that has great res compared to this, obviously the colours and contrast arent; as good, but the res is better.

It's most noticeable White on black.

Logicalstep
[Galaxy S I9000 General] hiraj_panosian:
I had a xperia x10 before this phone with 854*480 I don t see any difference
[Galaxy S I9000 General] sturmeh:
Usually when people make claims like this, I'll see what they want me to see.

But to be honest I don't see it.

Anyone got pictures I can compare with? :P
[Galaxy S I9000 General] android53:
Unless you have eagle eyes or like to use a magnifying glass you never notice this
[Galaxy S I9000 General] hiraj_panosian:
I dont get it, is one pixel rendered like rgbg or rg and the other one bg?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ConceptVBS:
I think people are spending wayyyy too much time with their phones.

Next "issue":

There is a dust mite in my phone!!!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Logicalstep:
ConceptVBS, I think that's a pretty stupid comment isn;t it?

I mean just because I notice it, doesn;t mean I'm saying everyone should notice it.

I can;t help it if your colour blind can I? :D

Anyways it is an issue for me, very real, but doesn;t stop me enjoying my phone. It's just you can;t compare the smoothness of text on this phone to any LCD IMO.

Logicalstep
[HD Mini General] savvast36:
hi guys

can anyone tell me if the hd mini screen is scratch resistant?

thank you..
[HD Mini General] NeilM:
It might resist, but doesn't put up much of a fight!

I bought a used HD Mini and there are significant scratches on the screen, though they don't affect the usage when the screen is on; they do look unsightly though.
[HD Mini General] savvast36:
i read somewhere that all htc models that have capacitive screens ar scratch resistant..is this true??
[HD Mini General] Paroni:
Nope!

Unfortunately scratched mine while turned the phone face down...:D

Cheers!
[HD Mini General] NeilM:
My HD2 screen was a lot tougher than the Mini appears to be.
[HD Mini General] savvast36:
so the hd mini screen isn't scratch resistant...:(
[HD Mini General] Azesss:
I have two months with Mini without protection and has no scratch. I carry it in the jeans pocket
[HD Mini General] bart3385:
Just keep in a soft sleeve. It will do fine. It's glass. Unless scratched by some object tougher than glass. The ordinary pouch, fingers, fingernails, paper, and cloth won't do any damage.

Even if this is some sort of unscratchable super-glass like iPhone 4 *cough*, would you really want to keep it together with coins in the pocket?
[Vibrant General] kolyan:
For some reason in any launcher I used, when I go to xscope browser or engadget news, I cannot multitask. When I return to the app, they seem to start from the begining state....

Anyone else ?
[Vibrant General] gravis86:
Android will automatically close Apps that aren't doing anything if the RAM is getting full. So maybe your browser is eating up RAM?
[Vibrant General] zephiK:
Swaps almost instantly for me. First time occurrence? Also make sure that you have used that app otherwise it will close, easiest way is to long-press HOME and you'll see the last six recent applications.
[Vibrant General] kolyan:
I do longpress Home.....engadget and xscope both reload everytime I try to get back.
[Vibrant General] kolyan:
Tested on stock and xscope browsers, both jump to the same page BUT they both reload it

EDIT: FIXED BY RESET
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Surethom:
Why is the video sound quality so very very bad, very tinny on the Desire, is the problem the hardware, software or both.

HTC need to improve the quality of the video sound it make the video recordings almost unusable.

Dose anyone know how to improve the quality or will the future 720p update improve the quality, or not?? :D
[Captivate Accessories] Donatron:
I bought 3 sets of micro-USB cables from monoprice, and I'm sad to say that they won't work with the Captivate. Due to the Captivate's recessed USB port, the cable can't be inserted all the way. The plastic around the end connector is too thick.
[Captivate Accessories] waffle418:
Shave the plastic down?
[Captivate Accessories] treylemkn:
I had to go to a work conference and left my charger and cable at the hotel =(. So I really need something today because my phone is on it's last leg. Does anyone have any idea where to find a cable/charger that will fit the captivate? And I mean locally by the way. Radio Shack, best buy, AT&T?
[Captivate Accessories] alphadog00:
Just about any micro usb will work, but some don't seat all the way in so the cable could pop out if you move the phone. If you just lay it down to charge you will be OK.

Buy it, try it, if it doesn't work take it back. But like i said, I have not found one that doesn't work somewhat to at least get you a charge.
[Captivate Accessories] Croak:
This.

Shave the bottom side at an angle. A box cutter, X-acto, or even sharp pocket knife will do the trick. Just mind your fingers. :)
[Captivate Accessories] tysj:
Got mine in yesterday. Didn't fit as snug as first. Took it to the kitchen, one slice with a kitchen knife and it was perfect. Almost looks like it was specifically made for the phone since the angle was dead on :)
[Captivate Accessories] akeem_da_dream:
radio shack, thats where i bought my phone from.
[Captivate Accessories] LiqudDeth:
I bought 3 of these from Amazon and they work wonderfully. If you have Amazon Prime they ship free.

Well, I can't post links, but search Amazon for:

BlackBerry USB Cable Micro

They should be $1.99 a piece.
[Captivate Accessories] jpeg42:
There are lots of options when you search for that.

Is it called "BlackBerry USB DataSync and Charging Cable with Micro USB for BlackBerry 8900, 9500, and 8220"?

Those look like they would fit and they are $2.15 each.
[Captivate Accessories] Donatron:
Just did this. Worked like a charm. I used an X-acto knife. :cool:

I'm kinda too lazy to do it to the other 2 cables. I'll get to them eventually. Haha
[Captivate Accessories] t-readyroc:
Odd... the 2 micro USB cables I bought from Monoprice work just fine... No modification necessary...
[Captivate Accessories] rob989_69:
They work, but they work better when you cut them down at an angle on one side. I got 4 from there and did it to all of them. Works like a charm, and $7 for 4 micro usb cables? Can't beat that with a stick.
[Captivate Accessories] YellowGTO:
Damn withs hipping?
[Captivate Accessories] xamot69:
I have the Fascinate and had the same issue with these cables. Slicing just a little bit off does the trick and they fit nice and tight. You can see in the pic that I got a little over excited with the x-acto knife on one of them but its nothing a little electrical tape can't fix :)
[Captivate Accessories] jwood55812:
As with the other posters, I picked up 4 for my captivate, really simple to shave em down once you get the hang of it, and they work for syncing too, can't get much better than that!
[Captivate Accessories] Krad:
I don't like to point out people or say nasty things.. but you are a moron...

Did you happen to look at the phone to see that the micro usb port is inside the phone and not on the edge of the plastic?

Anyone with 1/10 of brain could figure out that you need to shave off some of the plastic.. due to Samsung's design... not because of monoprice cables.

I love monoprice and have ordered easily over 2,000 different types of cables from them and have never had an issue... to make a topic with a thumbs down is really dumb.

my only complaint about monoprice is their $7 portable dvd mount for the car... My kid ripped both of the arms off kicking and pulling it.

but seriously... if you can't figure out that you needed to shave the wire, please return your android phone and immediately go buy an iphone right now! This second! so you have your Iphone with Ical and you can be an Imoron!

rant over
[Captivate Accessories] Krad:
Also...

change your topic... they cables due work
[Captivate Accessories] fatttire:
It's really easy to shave it down, which is what I did.

If the plastic is kinda hard then you can heat up an old knife and it'll slice through the plastic easier.

I even did this with the stock cable, and that fits a little better :)

Why the stock cable doesn't fit ideally I have no clue....
[Captivate Accessories] mobius911:
I think the only way the stock cable won't fit perfectly is if you don't force the door open all the way through the click. It takes a surprising amount of force.
[Vibrant Android Development] rhcp011235:
Hello,

Is there anyone who has this file? Or knows how to make a proper dump?

I think we need a REAL dump 100% working for TMO.

Thanks to all that help.
[Vibrant Android Development] junkdruggler:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=728698

then

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=730970

then we look in the forum (all

2

pages)

and you see

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=732307

someone already asked this

and someone already did this

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=728698

thank you MS_guru (forever in my good graces)