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[Vibrant General] LatinSilEighty:
i dont know about you guys but every time Ive ever seen a white LED its always had a blueish tint (like automotive LED's) its really not that big of an issue
[Vibrant General] blanked:
My display was noticeably blue the moment I turned it on... going to the T-Mobile store today to see if I can get a better unit with a more neutral color temperature.
[Vibrant General] blanked:
It matters to some people more than others. If it doesn't bother you then great. It's not really fair to criticize people who are bothered by it--one should have a reasonable expectation for color accuracy of their display, especially for a device so touted as being a multimedia powerhouse.
[Vibrant General] blanked:
I'm a graphic designer. I work with colors for a living every day. I've come to think that I have a pretty decent grasp of color.

Like I said, if you can't tell or it doesn't bother you or your handset isn't afflicted--great! But please don't dismiss the complaints of others simply because you "can barely tell the diff". ****
[Vibrant General] gcamach:
I have that issue with the blue screen and for some reason I'm the only one who sees it, I work for T-Mobile and I was showing my co-workers that there is a blue tint to the screen and they didn't see it it until I compared it to another phone. I'm also a graphic artist and I guess we see colors that others don't notice cuss we have too that's what we do. I also had a issue with the screen, there was some pixelation on my screen so I exchanged it.
[Vibrant General] SamsungGalaxySVibrant:
You know, some people here say every Super Amoled has a blue tint. I have to disagree. I've been comparing my vibrant side by side to other vibrants, and the screens vary from phone to phone. Samsung deffinately has some manufacturing inconsistences. Side by side to other Vibrants, my screen has a very visible dark grayish blue tint. Other vibrants have a slight blue/green tint. While other vibrants i've compared to have gorgeus warm whites. 1 vibrant had a very dingy yellow look to all the whites. So this is not in our imagination, the screens vary a lot on these phones.

My cousin just got the vibrant this morning, she had not seen mine. She saw mine this morning and says "why is your screen blue?" Put mine side by side next to hers, and hers has nice warm bright whites. All of our brightness settings were identical.

I'll be exchanging shortly when I have time.
[Vibrant General] tariqgibran:
So, does your replacement still show the blue screen tint?
[Vibrant General] 18.4009:
When I first got the vibrant I noticed a blue tint to it also. Then over the last few weeks it has gone away.

I noticed in the beginning it seemed worse with the screen shield I purchased with the phone from t-mobile.

Sent from my Samsung vibrant.
[Vibrant General] blanked:
I just got back from exchanging mine. They charged a $10 restocking fee, but it was worth it--the color accuracy is nearly spot on.
[Vibrant General] Itanius:
I didn't even notice mine until I read this thread and compared it to my monitor, but my Vibrant definitely has a blue hue to it.

It doesn't bother me, though, and the phone is only 5 days old.
[Vibrant General] SamsungVibrant:
It really bothers me that people don't know their comsumer rights sometimes. A company can not charge you a restocking fee if the unit is defective and they do an even exchange for you. ya its only 10 bucks, big deal, but imagine how many people get ripped off like this. At&t is even charging 35 dollar restocking fee to people who are returning the captivate because of GPS. If the unit is defective, and yes at this moment the GPS issue makes the phone defective, there is suppose to be NO restocking fee charged.

But if people don't know their consumer rights then I guess this is what happens.
[Vibrant General] tariqgibran:
Well, I decided to check out the display units locally to see if any showed the extreme blue tinge I saw on the Vibrant I returned. Out of four different Vibrants, one showed an extreme blue tinge, one was perfect and two others showed light to moderate blue. First, I went to a just opened Best Buy Mobility store. The working display unit there was extremely blue. I was not going to say anything but then my wife spoke up and asked the associate about it. He had never heard of the issue before but, upon looking at the screen (which I set to full brightness and with the auto setting off), he immediately noticed the problem and told his store manager they had a defective display model. Here is the revealing part. His store manager actually owned a Vibrant. He pulled it out of his pocket and all three of us could clearly see that his was perfect. I asked how long he owned the phone to which he said about two weeks. I then went to two T-Mobile corporate stores where both units showed some blue tinge but nothing like either the one I sent back nor the new display model at Best Buy Mobility. Thus, I conclude that the issue IS there with certain units and all Vibrant screens are not the same - exactly what this poll is revealing. At least now I know this is not entirely a subjective issue where different people are looking at screens which are color balanced the same and claiming either blue, neutral or whatever.
[Vibrant General] SamsungGalaxySVibrant:
I've contacted samsung about the issue. I love how they deny everything and try to make you sound crazy. I told the rep about the blue screen, the rep said they had never ever heard about blue tints on the super amoled screens, and I was the first to ever report it. Okay whatever. Then I braught up the GPS issue, and the rep says only a "few" customers are reporting gps issues. Oh goodness, nice way of trying to alienate your customer and make it sound like your customer is the problem and not the phone.

I suggest you call samsung, and let them know some phones are tinted blue if you have/had this problem.
[Vibrant General] tariqgibran:
I've almost decided to just reject the replacement unit when UPS shows up and be done with it. There are just too many unresolved issues/questions about this phone. We know a GPS fix is coming but not when, we do not know that they will ever fix the compass (imperative for location aware software) and now there is this screen color defect and, looking at the statistics of this poll and my empirical evidence, I likely have close to a seventy percent chance of getting another bad screen. I don't have time to beta test this phone for Samsung.
[Vibrant General] blanked:
Why the **** do you keep posting in this thread? Seriously. No one gives a **** if you think your phone and everyone else's phone is fine. It's patently obvious that isn't the case.
[Vibrant General] lmlloyd:
As a graphic designer, you should also know that the brain's perception of white is completely relative. White under incandescent light is not white under fluorescent light, which is not white under sunlight.

Every screen has some color cast, even calibrated monitors. In fact, from my measurements, with the brightness all the way down, the white point of the display on the Vibrant is around 10,000 K, while with the brightness all the way up, the white point is around 9,500 K. That might be something you personally don't like, but it isn't necessarily a "problem." If it is consistently the same temperature at the same brightness, then your brain will adapt to that as the color of white, just like it does when going from watching something on a CRT screen (9,300 K) to watching it on an LCD (6,500 K), or going from looking at something in sunlight (6,000 K) to incandescent lighting (3,000 k).

I'm sure the reason they did that was to make it more readable in direct sunlight. If it were 6,500 K, like a calibrated LCD panel, then in direct sunlight, the white would have a hard time standing out or overpowering the sun, and thus everything would look washed out and dim. As it is, in a dim room with incandescent lighting, it is going to look really blue, but outside in direct sunlight it will look very white, because the higher color temperature is standing out as separate from the sun, which your brain then sets as the new white, making the sunlight look more yellow.

I can understand why you might want the display to be closer to the 6,500 K of your desktop monitor, but the tradeoff for that, would have to be the display being brighter (read more battery consumption), in order to compete with the sun when outdoors.

At least that's my take on it.
[Vibrant General] tariqgibran:
Funny you should mention the N1 as that has been my phone for the past seven months. The screen, as well as my wife's, is perfect. Never had dust, 3G or wifi issues on either of our phones. Guess it's just the luck of the draw. If I was a gamer - and there were great games available on Android - the Vibrant would certainly be better, as long as the game did not rely on the compass (many games do rely on the compass by the way)! Ever use Google Sky Map or any sort of location app that shows what is around you...and their relative location to where your standing (and hence, what direction to walk, etc?) Well, that uses the Compass. Living without a Compass on an Android phone is extremely restricting.
[Vibrant General] blanked:
No, I'm aware that color is completely relative. Not only is it influenced by ambient light, but also adjacent colors. But that's not the issue here. Read more of the thread and you'll see that it's becoming apparent that the cause is manufacturing inconsistencies on Samsung's part. It was blue enough on my original phone that it really wasn't a matter of perception--it was quite cool, and noticeable the moment I first turned the phone on. I got my blue phone replaced and the replacement is much more close to being a balanced white. The T-Mobile sales rep was even surprised at the difference.

I think it's a bit generous to say that Samsung intended a cool color temperature--if they intended an off-balanced white, one would think it would be toward the warmer side as warm skin tones are more often than not the most important tone range to reproduce accurately (in print design).
[Vibrant General] tariqgibran:
+1 We also are more apt to accept an image as looking more correct when any inaccurate color balance is warm rather then cool. 9500-10000K is extremely blue and way beyond subtlety even for the average layperson that is not involved with color as a living.
[Vibrant General] tariqgibran:
Augmented reality games use both the accelerometer and the magnetometer(compass), so you need both but I'm surprised you never have a use for day to day primary android application functionality such as layers or Google Goggles, both of which often rely on the compass.
[Vibrant General] lmlloyd:
Well, I'm not saying that I am going to go out and change all my monitors from 6500 K or anything, but I will point out that we did seem to get by just fine for about 50 years with CRT TVs that had a white point around 9500 K. I don't remember people walking around talking about how blue their TVs looked the entire time I was growing up.

Look, I'm not saying it doesn't have a blue tint, in fact I'm the guy here who bothered to measure exactly how blue it was, instead of just subjectively saying it "looked blue." What I'm saying is that I don't necessarily think that anything with a white point more than 6500 K, should automatically be called defective, just because it doesn't look like an LCD panel.
[Vibrant General] stoanhart:
On mine, the colors seem neutral unless there is a bright light source (ie: sun) directly behind my head and I am looking at the screen head-on. When the rays from the bright light hit the screen perpendicularly and bounce straight back at me, I can see what I assume is the substrate on which the OLED units are deposited, and it has a really cool, dark, metallic blue color. To make it go away, I just tilt the screen 1 or 2 degrees, then I get perfect color. Usually I don't thought, because I really like that color!
[Vibrant General] ninjaijutsu:
I just bought my desire and have same problem ad u guys. I accepted the fact that blue had a low lifespan, but was still trying to hunt for a solution. After dl many brightness apps I found, Brightness profiler. I started playing around to change the brightness and notice some weird flickness. Example at 74 % it was more "yellow" than on 75%. At 96 % had less blue tint than 100 %. I could see it clear under no light before I went to sleep. So I guess they are defect but Ye, that's my workaround cuz I'm too lazy to return the phone and I like the cool tint now
[Vibrant General] hilaireg:
This type of behavior is unacceptable.

Members have two options when visiting a thread:

Option 1:

Responding in courteous and helpful fashion with constructive information ... not "use search", "use google", "stop being lazy", etc.

Option 2:

Ignoring the member request and/or moving on.

During your month holiday, make time to improve your attitude before posting again on this forum.

Regards,
[Vibrant General] temperdragon:
What's a augmented reality game?I've never had a issue in games, no the compass does not effect the accelerometer in games..... no Google goggles and layers is not a game and no I don't use either, never need to know how far a building is and Google goggle doesn't work half the time..

Let me ask, what games are screwy due to the accelerometer + compass....... name the game and no google goggles and layers are no games..

The compass issue does not effect games. I guaruntee this. I got doodle jump, papi jump, speedforge, wave blazer ,speedx 3d, asphalt 5, raging thunder, heavy gunner, all usingbthe accelerometer with no issues what so ever..... I think just because in google maps or layers the combo of compass and accelerometer screwing up us making you think games use the compass....... and maybe it does, but i doubt it and even if so, its not effecting games in any way shape or form..

any games that are screwy please mention so I can check.

Edit: just Google's augmented reality games and no, I don't go chasing zombies or try and find some gold with geocaching... now I understand some people do this, but the majority of people don't even know what geocaching is or play games like zombies... so I understand your complaint if these are what you need your phone for but I don't.. I play no games that incorporate gps/compass into my games.......

But lets clear that up so people don't think now there's issues in games that use the accelerometer but instead say if you want to say geocach or run from zombies in zombie land or wanna know how much a syrup bottle is on google goggles, then this isn't the phone for you.
[Vibrant General] tariqgibran:
Well, you can also chase ghosts down!

http://www.spectrekking.com/

"The compass issue does not effect games. I guaruntee this."

Of course your wrong which you discovered. But let's be clear, most people that own and regularly use an android smartphone for any length of time will eventually want to use something the does rely on the Compass, such as Layers or an App like Google Goggles to show them where things are while walking around. Visit a place your not familiar with and such capabilities can be a huge help. I really don't understand why your trying make an excuse for something like core compass functionality to not work in a just released, top of the line Android handset. It's completely unacceptable. That's the sort of logic contained in the anecdote "Doctor, my leg hurts when I walk" Doctor: "Well, don't walk!" Hey, if your fine with crippled hardware, fine. Just keep in mind that if no one expresses to Samsung that this is not acceptable, the problem will not be fixed. Let me ask you, would you prefer the compass to work or not? If you answer yes, then logically you should not take the positon your fine with it not working.
[Vibrant General] silverwolf0:
It's like the orange skin color you see on the TV walls at Best Buy. You know some blind fool is going to say how beautiful the orange lady with the blouse looks on the TV, and its perfectly fine that they like orange ladies. But I smell another pathetic troll trying to call other people stupid because he is in denial his phone isn't perfect.
[Vibrant General] blanked:
That's fair. I think what's most frustrating is the lack of consistency. It wouldn't bother me as much if all the displays had the same cool temperature--then you could just chock it up to it being "just how these Super AMOLEDs are" and waiting for an app to adjust the display white balance. But it's hard to feel happy with your brand-spankin'-new device when you know the display is worse than what others have.
[Vibrant General] SamsungGalaxySVibrant:
It would be nice if samsung offered software to make the screen more "warm." Then again not all super amoleds have this blue tint.
[Vibrant General] merophosis:
yeah.. mine had a slight blue tint but disappeared within a few days. The display looks great now and the 50,000:1 contrast ratio is pretty evident now.
[Vibrant General] SamsungGalaxySVibrant:
This user "storm99999" has released a color calibration for the blut tint problem on Nexus one Amoled screens.

Maybe there is hope for our blue tint on the Super Amoled?

here is the article

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/colour-calibration-for-nexus-one/
[Vibrant General] storm99999:
I don't have a Galaxy S, but I'm well on my way to having a device and rom neutral screen color control over in a thread in the N1 forum.

If any of you have a colorimeter or a spectrophotometer, any measurements you can provide would be of great help. I may add a preset or a few to my app with the right measurement data.
[Vibrant General] SamsungGalaxySVibrant:
Thanks.. any idea why these Amoled screens have blue tints? Now i know the general thought is that ALL Amoled and Super Amoled screens are tinted blue, however I have seen side by side that this is not the case. Some Vibrants do infact produce true warm whites with out blue tint.

Why is this? What is causing this issue, and such a difference between exact same model phones?

BTW if you are in LA i'll buy a drink sometime if this stupid blue tint goes away.
[Vibrant General] dattaway:
I work around fluorescent and mercury lights and my display appears white. When I'm under a sodium, candle, or incandescent light, it appears blueish. Perhaps a warmer color under the Sun. Its all relative to what your eyes are seeing in the background.

Perhaps if monitors had white balance sensors, we would never have these complaints.
[Vibrant General] SamsungGalaxySVibrant:
Some people like myself are putting two vibrants right next to each other, side by side. One displays blue, while the other displays warm white tones. so the relative factor goes out the door when you have two phones side by side.
[Vibrant General] storm99999:
Manufacturing processes tend to make a wide range in colors, as a slight change in chemicals can completely change performance. My N1 display is 9300k, but some others are 7000k. One person complained theirs was way too warm even. The reason why most of the tints are slightly blue, I suspect, is that the manufacturers decided to intentionally oversaturate it. A lot of people like blue tints, it looks "modern". Few people know enough to complain. That, and a lot of brightness comes from the blue. At Blue = 82.4%, my display looks a significantly darker than at 100%. I'm forced to use the next brightness setting up from usual.

I uploaded a rom-neutral version here, near the bottom. It's completely untested, so if anyone wants to, nandroid backup and try it. It by default loads up a warmer profile, but there's a very rough .apk to tweak it. Some are reporting it not working on some roms though. The test results will be very helpful.
[Vibrant General] PathogenX:
Mine is a slight blue, does not bother me at all. What bothers me is how hot the screen/phone gets. That i sometimes feel like I can cook an egg on it.
[Vibrant General] SamsungGalaxySVibrant:
My screeen gets hot too, but only when its charging.
[Vibrant General] Janis:
I'd poll that heat business, too. I don't have the problem. Heat can turn into a real problem with phones (PC's, radios, whatever gadgets). Personally, I'd have gotten a replacement for that.

I hated the blue at first, but now when I look up from my phone I have on rose-colored glasses. There's science behind mood improvement and perceiving pink. I'm also very happy to hear it'll last longer. I doubt it will last two years, but the longer I wait, the less I have to pay.

Given the inconsistencies/quailty control issues with this Samsung model, I doubt I'll go for another one. HTC cameras kinda suck head-to-head, but they really have thier game down otherwise. Google chose wisely. Motorola seems to have done really well recently, too.

Mostly I'm kinda pissed that the 3.5mm headset jack isn't standard. Size doesn't matter, but if your parts are out of order, and you don't have any accessories, you lose.

Seriously, get that hot phone replaced.
[Vibrant General] SamsungGalaxySVibrant:
I've tried running a blue screen to kill off the blue, its not working.
[Vibrant General] SamsungGalaxySVibrant:
Maybe its not the actual screen, maybe its the graphics processor or firmware? i dunno, probably screen.
[Vibrant General] lmlloyd:
Just a tip, you don't even need special equipment. The measurements I took earlier, were from hardware I use to calibrate my LCDs, but any camera capable of shooting raw will work as well. You can just take a picture of the screen, while it's showing something known to be white, like a blank JPEG. Then, if you take that photo into a program like adobe camera raw, you can read the white balance fairly accurately, without any specialized hardware. Actually, some cameras are more accurate than some of the cheaper color calibration pucks. I've tested it many times, and if you have something like an old Spyder versus a high end Canon SLR, Then you're going to get a more accurate reading from the Canon.
[Vibrant General] SamsungGalaxySVibrant:
Wondering if any people with the blue tint have noticed the blue getting better?
[Vibrant General] SamsungGalaxySVibrant:
i guess not..
[Vibrant General] SamsungVibrant:
After time you slowly get use to the ugly tint.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] miker71:
well, I lol'd

http://www.eurodroid.com/2010/07/samsung-makes-a-joke-galaxy-s-gets-full-bar-reception/
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AXIS of Reality:
Hahaha! Love it!

Kind of funny now that 'making calls' is something you can't assume your newest smartphone will be able to do. =P

I know the iPhone 4 reception problems have been blown up massively across the internet (after all, most people have a case for their iPhone = antenna fix), but Apple products don't usually have widely-publicised problems, so perfect opportunity to jump in with some comparative marketing.

In Australia we've finally gotten some good Android phones with the HTC Desire, Xperia X10 and Galaxy S but no-one knows what 'Android' is to the point where it isn't even mentioned on the feature lists or advertising for them! There has been no investment in marketing Android down here, although finally the telcos are promoting one of these 3 as their flagship phones.

Considering Blackberries and WinMo have little presence down here either, Apple pretty much owns the Australia smartphone market, so they have tons of potential customers wanting some sort of alternative to the iPhone but unaware that there is any.

After 2 friends were both separately needing a new phone I showed them both the Desire and they immediately fell in love with it, both not real techy people but picked up how to use it very fast and are enjoying the 'uniqueness' factor of owning a non-iPhone smartphone in Australia (eg: people on the bus near you staring trying to work out what it is you're using).

Loving my Galaxy S so far, but they need to run some clever Android advertising down here to let the market know they have a choice beyond Apple, which unlike the US is available on EVERY network down here.