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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
How do you know, have you tried it? :p Kidding! Lol, if there is any greatness in this ROM it's all thanks to everyone who helped me (including you of course, you helped me so much!). What I do is just try to make it all work together in perfect harmony :rolleyes:, lol.

I've been meaning to optimise XDA_UC for a while now, by letting it run before Sense loads. I think this'll fix lag problems as well. I'm not too keen on running it during RunCC as that just increases the time before you can use your phone.

I'll definitely consider this as I've been thinking about doing something like this. Could you post up a screenie of this "Compact Start Menu" so I can see what I'm dealing with? :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Jepp I did, I tried kinda any ROM available for Rhodium on this board :P No kidding.

I where going to release a tutorial and my personal opinion (pros, cons) about each ROM, but since I'm a chef too this wouldn't be considered as objectivity I guess. Mainly because I wrote a lot of "cons". For example I had roms in with Sense crashed kinda on every step I did. So how could I write something good about such a ROM when it's not usable?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] smithisize:
I'm trying that too, except I'm only trying roms with certain criteria :)

Haha, well, after simplicity and Jackos, I can understand why there would be lots of cons. These are the best combination of speed, functionality, and sexiness out there :)

PS: seem, been having problems in the rom where my tilt 2 keyboard, well, NO keyboard, will be able to input data or delete. Always caused after using landscape mode.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dbschr:
I have a question. How do I use/assign the original HTC / Manilla SMS Message UI to all buttons?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] smithisize:
New bug: FaceBookUtil.exe crashes when trying to modify FaceBookTab settings.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] husam666:
hey seem,

can you consider cooking advance config and that rhodium thingy tweaker that jackos cook?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] whiffer2:
Compact Start Menu ScreenCap

SURE, here it is. You get this menu system when you enable Compact Start Menu and touch the Windows icon button. I touched the programs option to expand it further as example. This replaces the normal start menu icon pages that apparently take up a lot of memory. I noticed almost 20mb in memory difference between this option being enabled and not enabled! :eek:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] smithisize:
Oh you're talking about quickmenu. Yeah, it's fast. There are a few things that irks me about it though.

It doesn't let you access WinMo's settings, as in the "Settings" icon in the standard start menu. Extremely inconvenient!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] whiffer2:
Give me an example to test/try out. Maybe it was tweaked?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] smithisize:
It's seen in your screenshot as well. When you click "Programs" the "Settings" folder/icon/whatever is missing.

Yes, I realize it has its own separate "Settings" submenu, but it doesn't have the same things.

Regards

Smith
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] FL5:
I've been using OCMan's start menu replacement, which is functionally kinda the same thing (in that the primary purpose is to free up RAM).

The problem with both is that the original start menu "settings" are control panel commands instead of simple links, and gunk up the works. OCMan's menu drops in some quick'n'dirty shortcuts that do the job, and are functional enough. However, the settings tab from within Sense, while being organized fairly differently, does functionally the same job, so what's the problem?

However, why aren't you backing up your setting reg keys and importing them with XDA_UC?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DeathmonkeyGTX:
I hope tethering via usb and wifi is repaired in 23135 beta. It's about to get flashed onto somebody's phone who doesn't want to know didily about xda or how to get this stuff done. Just another stock ROM hater.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
Finished the quicklink icons. You can still consider it beta though :p (I wouldn't mind changing anything). Let me know what you guys think:

Note: This is just a skin for the already existing Co0kie's Home Tab v1.8.5's quicklinks.

This skin also uses parts of the skin already found in Co0kie's Home Tab v1.8.5.

For chefs: You may use this mod in your ROM without my permission, as long as you don't label it as your own work.

Credits or a reference to this thread is not necessary but would be greatly appreciated :).​
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bigchrizzieboy:
I think it's simply the best:D Looks awesome, i guess no other comment is needed
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
Thanks! :) Let me know if the cab works, I just realised I forgot to do something and it probably won't work :o
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] husam666:
i tried this cab and it didnt work, is it because i'm using normal manila without CHT? or because the thing you did?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
You definitely need CHT for this.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
Thanks, I should add this to the post...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] husam666:
maybe will download that later

(stupid 3g operator always have errors and only with my SIM and number)

Edit: stole wifi from neighbours downloaded CHT working great

thx
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] FL5:
I can confirm that the cab does work. Install, restart sense, and all the toggles that I had assigned to quicklinks have changed from CHT-stock to the simplicity style. Minor bother in that it also changed my contact quicklinks from their contact pictures to the grey avatar pics, but removing and re-adding those quicklnks fixed that.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
Silly mistake fixed, try this.

I think I will :)

Great thanks! :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Mnementh666:
Hey Seem...

Pulled the simplicity_17_September_23569_CHT_BETA down, flashed, seems to be pretty nice. No issues as of yet. runs smooth and clean. Thanks for it.

Also, the new quicklinks icons work well. Installed, rebooted, no issues.

Keep up the good work man!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tiemen_S:
Hi seeM!

I have been away for a weekend and just noticed your BETA!

I see you have switched to the old 23569 again (for this release) and I'm worried about the RAM already, lol :P. I also read something on Tom Autoinstall, this is also used in AthineOS if I'm not mistaken. I have no idea what the differences between those are, never tried doing any registry keys with any of them (most of the time I make my own .cab for these things which makes it easier to look up what I edited on my PC's cab creator). I do know that XDA_UC's reboot sometimes causes my phone to hide away my "SIM config" thing (where you confirm your operator).

Also: I think your new CHT icons look awesome when you look only at the icons, but I'm not sure if they fit in the Manila theme. Yours are gray and look a little more 'matte' than the shiny/glossy/metallic used by Manila. This sure is awesome and has kinda the same effect when you've seen all those 'plastic' looking themes and then look at WP7. If you like them anyway there's no reason in not posting them ofcourse :D! It's just my quick opinion, I'm even not sure wether I will be using CHT anyway! I only use 3 shortcuts on hometab (of which I would like to use the WiFi toggle, but now use WLM) and would like to use CHT's music panel, but other than that, nothing ^^.

I'm eagerly awaiting sencity's theme, because if that job will be fully done, it would be too awesome! A full skin will be hard to create and maintain, GTX also went through this.

I also experienced some difficulties (with previous BETA) with the landscape SMS, but this could easily be caused by the HCM-messaging client that tempted me to install it once more, haha.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
RAM is the same as 231xx because both versions will end up using 235xx's gwes.exe anyways.

Yeah I see what you mean, what would you suggest to be changed? I'm gonna try only changing colours and see how that works for now.. I'm a little bit colour blind so I'm not the best with colours :o
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tiemen_S:
Ah, ofcourse, this probably was due to that WiFi bug that's solved then :)!

I haven't got much knowledge on editing icons so they become a bit flashy too (not too much!), but maybe you could try some lighter variants of plastic effects/tutorials/your ways of achieving this?

I have done a plastic button (as in website buttons) tutorial for PS long, long ago, maybe that's the sort of editing you could look for!

To match the graytone I also think your dark grey could be made a little darker, but to find the right one for that I think it's just color picking from a screenshot of some Manila element and do some trial and error. Haha, they say I see things that are perfectly in line a little curved too, but I fail to admit that and go for glasses x].

As for the white shapes inside, those are perfect for this type of design!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
I actually did the colour picking thing before reading your reply :p, this is what I came up with. It seems to blend in a little more. I'm sorry but I'm not really sure what you mean by plastic effects :?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tumdace:
Ok so I havent posted on here in a few weeks, but ive been using the non cht version of your rom for a while heavily.

And while its nice and fast, theres a few issues I have, and was wondering if theres a solution or workaround.

Basically, I still struggle with signal strength sometimes, and thus if a text message doesnt go through, i have to retype it. I can solve that by installing HTC messaging, with the auto resend, but i find its is slower.

Also just switching between menus still isnt as snappy as I would like.

I was gonna try the titanium, ive tried it before on other builds, just not sure I want to deal with all the winmo crap.

Basically, I really only use this heavily for: Google maps, rss feed, opera mobile, camera, text and voice.

I usually dont send alot of text messages, but recently met a girl I really liked but found out she lives a long distance from me, so we have been sending text messages back and forth.

Its just not as smooth of an experience for me, especially since we have been chatting heavily through text message. Also, if she sends a text at say 10:20, and I send one in the same minute, it puts mine first, even though she sent it first. Makes organizing a the convo a bit of a pain in the butt.

Ive actually even been considering just junking this phone and getting something like a blackberry (havent really been a fan of touchscreen since I got this a year ago, but I love the physical keyboard).

Any suggestions? Maybe a few apps I could install that might make things a little smoother? (like maybe titanium + htc messaging)?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tiemen_S:
OK, something like the result when you do this:

http://www.absolutecross.com/tutorials/photoshop/interfaces/glossy-buttons/

http://www.absolutecross.com/tutorials/photoshop/interfaces/plastic-tabs/

http://www.tutorialized.com/view/tutorial/Plastic-Button/4028

These buttons are waaaaay overdone, but just to illustrate the effect you could try to apply a very very little ;). If you overdo this, you'll end up like CORE CELL ROMS ;D. Maybe an example already inside manila could what's behind the flip clock on the hometab?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tumdace:
Oh, and to add to my previous post: I remember seeing something about MaxSense being a possibility? I liked Energy's MaxSense, aside from the fact it was really laggy. If you could make a stable, fast, MaxSense rom, I think it would rock. Thats the only thing keeping me from using MaxSense, its just too darned sluggish.

Oh and the biggest issue I have is that I always want to type with the keyboard. So when I start to send a text, then slide out the keyboard, it takes a good 3-4 seconds to rotate, and then i have to reclick on the text input bar before I can actually type anything. Why does it lose focus?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
Most of the problems you are having seem to be hardware/software based which, unfortunately, can't be fixed by me :(. I really don't think MaxSense is an option for you, it's pretty sluggish all around.. If you really want to multitask a lot and just want a smooth and simple experience, and the 21xxx version of this ROM just isn't cutting it for you, I'd recommend you to try Jackos' ROMs. His JackFULL ROM will be similiar to mine. But what I'd recommend in your case is SleekBASIC (I think that's what its called), you should really give it a try. Unfortunately the software that this ROM incorporates just isn't able to be fully driven by the hardware of this phone. I might be wrong but I think many people would agree with me there.

If that doesn't work for you, I'd agree that you should get a Blackberry. For simple social networking / communicating, I don't think you get better at this moment in time. To be honest, if I wasn't one who enjoyed complex systems/tinkering with my "gadgets" I probably would've jumped to Blackberry a long time ago (or perhaps even iPhone).

I'm going to try cooking a much lighter ROM soon, if by then you haven't found a solution to your problem, give it a shot.

Good luck!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
Aaah I see what you mean, that glossy effect. I considered it, but it's all over the forums and it's not completely my cup of tea ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] smithisize:
Seem, Agent (Valkerie ROMS) says you can cook silent_uc into your roms. Would you mind throwing together a beta with that included? He said to just PM if you would like to.

I think it would be nice to try out in a beta, private if you like?

Regards

Smith
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kwalk316:
I am trying the simplicity_17_September_23569_CHT_BETA and I am getting quite a few sod's. Never experienced this on previous releases. Anyone else having this problem?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Svein10:
simplicity_17_September_23569_CHT_BETA

OK, here is the feedback:

THIS IS THE BEST seeM EVER MADE

+++ Memory is very good, before I signed into the Twitter tab, it was hoovering arond 62 Mb free (After 2 days use)!!! :D But after starting using the Twitter tab memory dropped slowly to to around 52 Mb free, so maybee when you are signed in to Twitter it starts to leak?

++ Speed is the best I have experienced so far with CHT, and I haven't even bother to OC!!! :p

++ It's stable, no SOD's.

I just can't find any faults with this ROM! :eek:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tiemen_S:
Neither is it my taste, but Manila is like this and I get timelessly annoyed when themes don't match up ^^. It has to be all the same style. For the same type of taste I like sencity so much (WP7 theme too, called Metro?). Does it matter anything in the performance to put the oldschool (TF3D?) theme/graphic transitions back in? I don't need any colours there, black&white + your background would work just fine too!

The oldschool theme has just such a professional look and the new one is just flashy. I don't want one of those 'back to that time' ROMs, because they also keep in some oldschool bugs :P. Especially when your ROM will give the same performance (until now, no complaints!) and some of the new features! Messaging has improved a bit (main reason of keeping newer ROMs), but I still don't get why they can't design a client as smooth as it was in my K800i (SONY) without making it look crappy. Even that old phone could be themed for every taste without looking absurdly fake.

I really love the work you do, because I will have to be using this phone for at least 1 year and some months! After that, I think it will be SONY again, they just seem to put the main phone features first (nokia is better at this), while maintaining style (nokia's con in my opinion). I also hate to see all HTC Android phone's run so smoothly, but I giggle when I remember they have to do almost everything Google's way and can't use the common Windows services from my PC.

And does anyone know how to get a proper working locksreen app (without glitches when waking up) that looks normally? S2U2 isn't working right and neither do I like the spam Pocketshield gives me without paying. I payed enough bucks for the phone already XD! Pocketshield design&RAM + free = win... CHT lock looked awesome too, but it isn't RAM friendly I think and neither is it stable all the time..

One day I'll learn some coding to do things myself ^^.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] smithisize:
Biggest issue, everything else aside, is the random failure of input at all.

Sometimes, I can't use ANY keyboard. Makes me really angry lol Please fix this!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] whiffer2:
i can confirm this issue also. very random and strange
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Mnementh666:
Can't say I've seen this. *Any* way to recreate the issue?

I have had arkswitch die with errors... and that kills the responsiveness of the whole system. Only happens with IGo 8, though. I'll see if I can pull the error.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cdkss:
running Sept 17 beta

Works well, great speed and loads of memory.

I ran across one issue...

the phone display will go out (random) but the lights of the device will still light up. I have to keep rebooting the device to get my screen functioning again...

I did notice that during that time it was Searching for music on my sd card, so far since the music has been located i have not had any other issues with the display.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kwalk316:
This was happening to me so much that I flashed a previous release. The sod's were happening almost every hour.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
I haven't got one SOD since the late August ROMs.

It could be your SD card.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
Never experienced this.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] tsan81:
Same prob here....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
Try the attached cab.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] tsan81:
Thank you...I was trying to d/l from an earlier but it wasn't letting me!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] FL5:
I think I may have been experiencing something similar with the 9/17 beta, if not the same. Every now annd then, when I'm switching from portrait to landscape or back, the program I'm in fails to render properly (ie, shows portrait-width program in landscape with blank space to right and bottom of program flowing off the bottom of the screen). In particular, the SMS program seems to like doing this. after flipping the keyboard open and closed a few times or minimizing and going back into the program I can get it to come back up right, but sometimes not. Further, sometimes when it switches back it won't render the bottom of the screen in portrait, as if the SIP were up, even when it isn't and whether I try toggling it up and down to refresh it. I've even gotten it to totally lock up twice on me, accepting no input at all from anything and requiring a little-red-button reset.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
I tried to replicate this but I couldn't o_O I'll keep trying though, lol. And I'll try and fix it.

I've updated the quicklinks theme thing btw: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=787565

Do you guys think it's better/worse than before? (scroll down to view the older one)

Do you guys think it's worthy of being cooked into the ROM by default?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Mnementh666:
ooh! I like the new ones. I liked the older ones, but the newer are nicer :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bigchrizzieboy:
awesome...

I can only confirm this one, looks sweet :)

Any ETA on some new cooking?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dr-Death:
Hi! Igo8 crashs on my tp2 too. I use the beta (23135 without cht). Otherwise i have no problems, no sod and friendly ram-use. I will again test igo8 in the next days and will give then answer whether the error lets itself reproduce.

cya dr-death
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tumdace:
Ok so I tried Jackos, and while it was fast, I still think I prefer yours.

One thing about his I really liked though, when I go to type a new message and I pull out the keyboard, it auto defaults to typing into the box. With yours, I have to click on the box first.

Is there a reg fix or a cab fix or maybe you could implement it into future release?

Its a pain when you want to reply to a message but u gotta keep hitting the box first.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
I think you're talking about the manila messaging part? Try this cab, it should remove that mod I added recently (which I've realised isn't as useful as it seems to be). Default seems better though, at least for this device.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tumdace:
Thanks for that..

BTW, I did reflash to you ROM (Sept 2, the 21xxx version, I honestly cannot find a better line of roms than yours) but I am now having the same issue I was having months ago with yours:

If I lose reception (when I go to work) even if I go outside, into an area where I SHOULD have full bars, it remains at no signal and constantly searches for a signal, but never finds one. I have to soft reset the phone in order to attain a signal.

Any idea?

Thats one of the reasons Ive been eyeing up a Blackberry.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
It's a pleasure :)

Can you remember what fixed it last time? Radio perhaps?

I think 4.49.25.91 works best with this ROM, I'm not really sure.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bigchrizzieboy:
added post history

Hi seeM_ZA,

Just want to tell you i've added links to when you've uploaded the ROMS by the mirrors :)

Still enjoying your roms:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] homerino85:
Hi, i've one question about the lock system on the release 3 sept:

when i put out the pen-nib the device have auto unlock, can disable this feature? how to?

P.s. sorry for my english...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
I love what you did with the place :p That's SO SO SO helpful, thanks a million bro ;)

I know I'm taking long with a new release :o I'm on holiday now so hopefully it will come soon. I don't think the next one's gonna be a beta (I'm not saying its gonna be 100% stable, I think it's time for a new proper release).

I'm sorry but that's software that I can't really change.. You could try using a different lockscreen I think.

EDIT: or maybe there's even a reg entry that'll do the trick for you?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] homerino85:
I suppose you know something to us in the registry that unlocks the device, but I do not know where to watch. any suggestion?