yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DeathmonkeyGTX:
216xx seems to be quite slick. I was impressed with 21679 and more so with 21680. I'm pleased that you're going to use 216xx, seems to roflstomp 23xxx and 219xx...

On the final build it'd be spectacular if you could figure out how to have HTC Menu Enhancement work the way it does on Energy ROM's. The buttons are big enough to hit with my giant thumb/it can fit a lot more things on the screen when there aren't huge swathes of pixels between each button. I hate it when I have to scroll down to hit "Edit" in file explorer/get to paste.

I think I'm going to Verizon and the HTC Merge/Lexikon [sic] (CDMA Desire Z) to get me some Scorpion core, 512MB RAM, a frickin' headphone jack without a fuc*ing adapter, and some SLCD. I'm not particularly excited about switching to Android/letting google know more about me than they do already (I love gmail) but WinMo is dying and I'm not sure about WP7 until there are enough cab equivalents and XDA supports the living sh*t out of it like it did WM5 when I got my Wizard. I thought I was such a badass when 6.1 hit xda... My best friend bricked two Wizards because he wouldn't RTFM or let me do it. Oh yeah, WP7 has to get tethering and copypasta before I buy that crap and polish it with xda.

Too bad I can't dual boot WinMo and Android on a native Android phone... I'm going to miss Garmin Mobile XT.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] smithisize:
Am I the only one experiencing freezing issues with texting app?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] FL5:
Texting app? You mean tmail? That mofo is constantly battling Opera 10 for my attention, despite the fact that all I do is jam it full of nonsensical "correspondence". I had to use quotes, because it's mostly just garbled nonsense, poo jokes, and horribly bastardized language.

Wait... on a tangent now...

Yeah, despite the way I abuse that fellow, all he does is work great for me.

Or are you referring to something else? Did you install HTC Messenger or something?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
Didn't you have this problem before? I blame swype :p. Swype was included in the latest Leo leaked ROM, maybe I'll cab it up for you later to try.

FL5: About hype, the people who hype these things up have been saying that almost every new build is so much faster. If this is the case, wouldn't we be at a stage where our phones actually respond instantly? Buuuut we aren't, regardless of which ROM you use (even a Titanium one), which just proves that all the hype is, in fact, just hype :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MauriceA:
Sender and Receiver invisble in Pocket Outlook???

Installed the last beta rom "simplicity_28_September_21679_BETA.7z".

This was my first custom rom installation.

At first all looked good. However today I noticed that in Pocket Outlook the sender and receiver email address are invisible. The associated picture however is visible...

In the Sense email tab however the sender email address is shown.

I have configured my Gmail account and company Exchange Server with a Certificate installation.

Also the messages which were on the Exchange Server before installing the Rom do not show the details of the email.

By the way I installed the Sense Language pack (Dutch) with BsB Tweaks.

Anybody seen this behaviour and more important, can somebody give information to correct this situation?

In the stock rom this was not an issue.

Regard, Maurice
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DeathmonkeyGTX:
Verified with a stopwatch 21679 opens arcsoft more quickly than 219xx or 23xxx. 21680 is a bit quicker than 21679 and RAM utilization is ever so slightly more efficient.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Ariost:
Performance dropped quite markedly after installing OEM_TVOutPopUp. The phone is still much more responsive than with the stock rom, but the decrease is noticeable, especially in switch time between the landscape and the vertical modes. I wonder if there's a way to remedy that? OEM_TVOutPopUp is an exe file and no corresponding app shows up in the uninstall list of TMS Uninstaller. In my case, the tv-out option is something I can't live without. Any ideas/comments?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] schumifer1:
Here is something i discovered today.

When i touch the task bar the notifications screen comes up.then i touch the top right icon and i get comm manager. So to turn on the bluetooth i would touch the right lever (on - off). Up to now i was used to enter bluetooth settings when i pressed to the left of the on-off switch. Instead now it leads me to device choice (to connect to). Is it possible to have the bluetooth button take me to the same manu as startmenu-settings-bluetooth does?

Also, has someone made the wifirouter work? I haven't givenup tryin, so just your input here people.

I am on 3/9/2010 21887 CHT
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
I just checked on my phone now and it's working fine for me.. It definitely shouldn't be the language pack/language change. Could someone else confirm this problem please? I'll keep digging..

That's strange.. But I'm not complaining (^^,)

TVOutPopUp is included in the beta's and will be included in the next release so you won't have to worry about this anymore :)

I'll change that, I thought I already did.

It does work, you have to change the wifi device you're using (the one that connects to your phone, the wireless router) to search for AdHoc devices if I remember correctly.

EDIT: Just checked and I did change it, but only in the latest betas.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] schumifer1:
...faster than a speeding bullet. I won't be switching to the latest of your roms though, cause these are minor issues i can definitely live with and this rom i am on is working like a charm so far.

Keep up the good work
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
simplicity_03_October_21680.7z and simplicity_03_October_21916.7z up (No CHT versions)!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dr-Death:
Cool, i will try the new version this evening and report tomorrow. thx for your work!

cya dr-death
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Mnementh666:
Downloaded, will flash later and report.

Thanks Seem for the work!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] andersondb1:
Can you post a quick info regarding the diferences between the 2 builds.

I see these all the time, and frankly am not sure which is the better build to install.

Thanks for the info.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
216xx - Start menu and X buttons on the bottom

219xx - Start menu and X buttons on the top
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bigchrizzieboy:
downloading/uploading/flashing

Awesome new builds:D

Will defently flash this one (21860 is the one i'll use)!

- Mirrors for the 21680 are up.

- Will upload the 21916 build later this evening.

EDIT: All MIRRORS up!

Thanks for cooking
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] smithisize:
Awesome build! So fast!!

Did you cab up the Leo swype?

Regards

Smiith
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] nrbrt:
it is fast!

i think this time will leave it without CHT, this is the fastest rom i've ever had!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dr-Death:
Hi! the first impression is excellent (version 21680). i will report more next day. good night.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hskeik:
Dear seeM_ZA, Think next one will be clean version, hope it'll be soon :)

Thanks very much for your hard work :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MauriceA:
Update: Sender and Receiver invisble in Pocket Outlook??? yes in the Oct 3th ROM

Previous post: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=8428582&postcount=1590

:)

Just installed latest ROM "simplicity_03_October_21680". After performing Task29.

Don't know if you found something and changed it in this ROM. But the emails are fine again. Sender and Receiver are visible.

After installing the ROM, I first setup my gmail account and verified if that was oke. It was.

Than I installed my corperate certificate for synchronizing with the Exchange Server.

Voila, everything was fine.

Later this week I will be checking in and report my findings...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
SeeM,

Do you plan to release a "start-on-bottom" version with CHT onboard?

If so, will it be a CHT 1.8.x or 2.0.x?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] fvand1:
Super rom. Smooth, sleek and very, very fast. I have been using the Energyroms for a long time. But your rom.... it is the best!

So today I flashed the new one (21916), as said... super fast. But I noticed that it in this new Rom, it is not possible to change the time to 24h. digits.

Can someone tell me what to do? Thanks for the quick reply!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] fvand1:
Yep, I found it!

You have to change the time notification at the localsettings in the Windows Settings. There is a small box with possible notifications. Tap to under en their is the right one.

Well this man is happy. Keep on going the good work.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dr-Death:
Hello!

I have a little problem: The display (weather-tab) will appear the moon, but it should the sun appear. the weather is clear and the sun is in the sky.

This happens an my manually selected city (Leipzig Germany > Display Moon), but "my location" displays the sun. :confused::confused::confused:

can someone test this please!!!

cya dr-death
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tiemen_S:
Dowloading right now!

Thanks for all the work seeM, certainly going to enjoy it :)!

I noticed in the latest 23xxx Beta that messaging has no retry send option (manually), so you have to do the Draft-forward-thing still? Or is there a way to resend a draft faster wich I keep overlooking?

If this can't be solved without changing the SMS client, is there another one apart from HCM (Home of the Messaging Client) releases? HCM's bugged and has a bit too many tricks (gwes.exe overload in no-time).. I do need resend though, I don't have a very great signal at home!

So in the case an uniform solution can't be cooked in: anybody knowing other .cab's to replace messaging maybe? I don't mind trying them :). Since simplicity is (nearing) it's final stage, I'd like to experiment first to determine my own final adjustments too ;)!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
I can't promise anything soon 'cause I'm writing Matric final exams now (not sure what that means to people outside of South Africa).

Of course, I release "start-on-bottom" (or in this case, 21680) versions for CHT and no CHT. I'm just waiting for CHT 2.0.x to come out of its beta period before I cook it in.

As usual, thanks! :)

I'm sorry I don't really get what you're trying to say :o

I believe I've said this before: Find me a ROM or program that can do what you want and I'll be glad to cook it in. Unfortunately I don't have the code for Pocket Outlook so I can't really add that feature in their. However, if it exists and I'm just overlooking it, if you tell me where I can find it I can just cook it in :) I did search for it, for you, quite a lot though.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DeathmonkeyGTX:
y0' seem;

I don't use Sense or My Location, but I'm pretty sure he's saying that the weather tab of Sense 2.5 is displaying the moon during broad daylight, but the My Location bit under the flip clock on the home screen is correctly displaying the sun. I suck at math but I pwn 99.9% of my peers at reading comprehension and writing.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tiemen_S:
OK, just wanted to make sure I wasn't going to do research somebody already did. I'm going to check out AthineOS first and see what's cooked in there, because I can't remember having to do this when I was at that ROM :)!

It also could be he has something else cooked in now, but I'm in luck I never delete any old release :).

I'll flash those before your Beta and I'll let you know!

P.S. thanks for your previous research attempts!

EDIT: I flashed an old version of AthineOS, dating back to this July. This was already build 2016 and it has normal HTC messaging for that build cooked in and this release got the resend option. You probably don't want to cook that on in ;D. I also saw a without HTC version still on my hard drive, maybe that's different, will report in an EDIT2.

Just for the matter of sharing, found it on AthineOS's first post: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5664558&postcount=739

Arcsoft in a .cab.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kwalk316:
out of memory when using opera

Everything is running good on 21680 except for one problem. When I open opera I get the out of memory, please close a tab to free memory. I only have one tab open. I tried soft resetting and opening opera again and I keep getting the same message.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hskeik:
I know what it means cause I have an exam tomorrow, :(

I ask God to help you in your exam :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
Have you tried a reboot? If so, then have you tried a hard reset WITHOUT doing any changes in customization? I haven't experienced this problem at all.

Thank you, that means a lot :) Same to you!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dr-Death:
thx ... that is what i mean (sorry, but my english isn't good). I will monitor the behavior of tomorrow and report.

i have tried opera without problems.

cya dr-death
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dr-Death:
seeM_ZA ... good luck for your exams!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
Hello SeeM, and good luck also from Poland :)

But perhaps after your exams: How about a stable version of 21680 without HTC Messaging and with CHT 1.7.1 or 1.8.5 (and possibly an old dialer)? I know CHT 2.x will be a bomb, but according to what Co0kieMonster wrote, the final version will be ready at the end of October. It's almos a month away... :( Jackos is going to be away for a couple of weeks so it would be a great opportunity for me to "take care" of your ROM. And judging by what was written by different people in this thread, the 21680 is very nice, and I would be delighted to try it. However for me Sense 2.5 without CHT has no advantages over Sense 2.1 or TF3D... (you probably know what I mean) ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
I see, I'm not sure how to make it behave the way you want it to though. I'm sorry :o

Lol :) Sure, definitely. I'll try and get them up tomorrow. CHT 1.8.5 that is.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
No rush. I have to get Jackos 1.8 PLK ROMs up first, and I still have 2 or 3 issues so I guess it will take a day or two :) But thanks for the favor :o
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tiemen_S:
I think I flashed at least one non-HTC client with a bit of a different approach now. It's AthineOS v23 TP2 b23138 CHome Only and this HAS Arcsoft if I'm not mistaken and there's a difference. On simplicity's Beta (23569 17th September) in drafts there was no working left softkey. It was an icon showing an "head and arrow", but pressing it did nothing as far as I experienced. In this AthineOS version, it still showed the "letter with slipstream" or how you'd like to call the normal sending button in the bottom bar. Pressing this just retries sending the Draft, instead of having to forward the thing to a 'new' recipient (just retyping the same name again) and creating another draft if it fails again.

This is still no option that exactly tries to resend the message when I click/hold it. Which makes me still prefer the 2016 HTC version I think. My memory says that this one has the "error sending triangle" (which makes you able to click it and retry sending) and the "show limited history" (which reduces loading time of the page significantly). This made it not as absurdly slow as the previous versions HTC gave us. Could be 2017/2018 too... Is there some neutral .cab for this without all the latest 'improvements' HCM tries to implement? I can live with normal HTC stuff when it at least does it's jobs in acceptable speed.

I'd like to experiment between the HTC client and Arcsoft/....... (the other alternative?) again: new build, new game :).

I don't need any Securebox or different "fancy" options. Just messaging (plain or HTC interface, I gave up on this fight) and an option to deal with bad signal easily (retry or manual resend, as long as it's convenient (push a button)). It's not very convenient to keep reminding yourself you have to look in your drafts to see which one you forwarded or not, if you know what I mean.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] smithisize:
October 3rd ROM is incredible! Fast, sexy... extremely responsive! I little RAM intensive, but it's not a big deal because I don't multitask much. It hovers around 80% in use (21680 build)

Great work!

Regards

Smith
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] theoriginal15:
Yeah, what he said!!! :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] FL5:
Awwwwwwww yeeeeaaaaaahhhhhhhhh

Yeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaah Boooooooooooooooooooooy! NEW ROM TIME!

My Location is a little goofy sometimes for some folk. I'm not having any problems with it where I am, but here's a bit of a post taken verbatim from mmalka in the energy rom thread:

Maybe that might help you? Maybe not? One way to find out?

Opera is a silly little booger, and likes to try to grab up whatever ram you have available in order to make itself run more nicely. I've been specifically running Opera Mobile 10 (on a 128k glyph cache, natch) as hard as I can along with other memory-gobblers just to try and put this ROM through its paces and see how it does. Today I had Opera 10 (usually with 4-5 tabs open), PockeTwit, and the RSS hub open while playing mp3's on the music widget in CHT 2.0 before WM went nuts and started closing apps on me. No evidence, but I have a sneaking suspicion that the RSS hub may have had a bit more of a hand in that than it really should have. Need to hunt down a possibly more lightweight RSS app to see if it makes a difference...

Wait... Where was I...

Oh yeah, point of all that is that I had to put it under pressure to get it to close apps on me, and even then it didn't give me the "out of memory" message - it killed the stuff in the background silently. You may want to go into the handy copy of FDC task manager that Seem thoughtfully cooks in for us and see what you have running. You might have installed some gunk that is eating more resources than you are aware of.

Or you may have just jacked up some files you weren't supposed to. :p

Indeed! I'm trying to feel out the larger page pool on this one and see whether it's helping. For certain, it is zippy a good bit of the time, but then at other times I'm still getting it to choke up (blaming most of that on intentionally trying to run a bunch of crap at once & CHT 2.0 beta).

Also, I've entirely disabled the normal winmo start menu, and am using one of the much less ram-intensive replacements. I may try mucking about with some of the other setting (glyphe cache, file system cache, etc.), and see if they can be tweaked in such a way that I'm not asking the thing to fight itself over its own ram and yet still get snappy performance out of Opera 10.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DiAbLoxx83:
3 october 21680

Better than 2 september! Very good :D

No bug for me atm.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tiemen_S:
Right when I wanted to force a Draft on your latest release with bad signal, my reception stayed ok xD. With a written and manually saved Draft the left key was just fine! So no need to look into that!

Speed is awesome up to now!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] fvand1:
I have one issue till now. Everything seems to work great (ROM 21916) en as said very fast.

Except the FM radio. When I want to start it, it can't start by an 'unexpected reason'. With the 3 september I never had this.

Hopefully do somebody know a way to fix this? Because I use FM radio a lot.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] zwwff:
Look best

well well i like it
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
@FL5,

Do not count on what mmalka writes. He's wrong about the localization thing too.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
80% is WAY too high for my liking! I've been using 21916 since Sunday and I'm at 66%. I use Windows default lockscreen AND default start menu o_O. I might roll back to 21679 after some testing.

It's working fine for me on 21916, are your headphones plugged in?

Then why does it sometimes only work for me on a WiFi connection?.. Lol either way, to the guy who was having problems: Try 2G, 3G and WiFi. It's bound to work on at least one.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
With a WiFi the effect can be a bit surprising. I once refreshed my weather via WiFi in my company and My Location changed to some city in France (although I was in Warsaw/Poland). When I switched back to data connection, the location corrected to Warsaw.

I guess google location searches for the name of the city stored in a memory of closest access point, gateway or something like this. And if the internet provider puts strange information in their devices, our PDA will also go crazy...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] FL5:
Heh, well, like I said, My Location always works for me (even in my rural nowheresville town), so all I had to go on for suggestions was what I found on the forums. Guess I need to start keeping my big mouth shut sometimes! o_o;;

Even with all the eye-candy junk, pretty icons, CHT 2.0, and little background processes I've got running, I go back down to 54% easy when I close my running apps. Yes, with the stock lock screen and start menu disabled, a little more might oughta be free, but it's pretty snappy and responsive, so I'm considering that to be an acceptable trade-off. Even with Opera 10 running I only get up to 74% with my current cache settings (glyph @ 256k, system file @ 2Mb).

Either way, if 21679 is running better for you, then sure, give it another shot?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] schumifer1:
simplicity_3_September_23134_2016CHT.rapidshare link

simplicity_3_September_21887_2016CHT.rapidshare link

Will keep uploading. Please add to existing links
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] WarlockW:
Change Left Soft Button ..

Made a cab to change the Left Soft Button to lock the Phone.

Enjoy :)

Btw . Loving Your Roms .. Thanks !
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
Just realised something, you're using 216xx yet you say there is 80 PERCENT in use. There isn't an indication of RAM usage in % in 216xx if I remember correctly. I know you can calculate it pretty easily though, but I'd really like to know where you pulled this number out of....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] FL5:
Start>Settings>System>Memory, "In use"/"Total"

=P
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
Thats in MB not in %.. 80MB in use is amazing o_O, which is why I'm asking..

EDIT: Aaand I did say that it can be calculated pretty easily (obviously using those numbers) but I'd really like to know where smithisize got it from. 'Cause I've never been at 80% RAM usage on this ROM before. Obviously I could be wrong.