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[General Topics] Mady4Real:
Yep i'm looking for new devices but cheap :P

also i know its not touch screen and personally my experience with touch screen devices wasn't that good so it doesn't matter if its touchscreen or not all i wanted is good function and handy.
[General Topics] q123456:
then HP should be good bet.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] leoni1980:
*** edit - title is supposed to say No Full Gmail Contacts Sync **

Ok it's taken me a while to notice this as i've had the phone plenty long enough now, but it was only yesterday I needed to add a contact and found that if I select the option to add to Google Contacts it doesn't actually save them. I've tried multiple times and NOTHING. The phone is able to sync DOWN fine but seemingly cannot sync up. Sadly it seems Samsungs incompetent software tweekers have struck again.

Can anyone else verify if this is the case with all Galaxy S firmware at the moment?

So frustrating; really starting to wish Samsung would just have made this phone a STOCK phone like HTC.did with things like the Magic.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Darkstriker:
Not the case for me. I have flashed and reflashed a hundred times and when I add a contact, it stays and comes back after a flash through google sync.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] leoni1980:
What particular firmware are you running? It tells me the contact has saved but then when I look through my phonebook the contact isn't there. Try adding one now to your Google account and report back.if you don't mind.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] eaglesteve:
Darkstriker, can you log into your google account to see if all your contacts are listed there? Is it possible that contacts are synced, but they don't necessarily need to show up under the google account?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] leoni1980:
They aren't showing up on my phone book or online in my Google contacts, even though it says they're saved.

It could be that im running a custom rom, cant remember the name of it but its the main one that isn't SAMSET!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Darkstriker:
The main one that isn't samset... gotta love that statement.

Anyways: I may be a problem with your customROM. I am using JM2. I just added one and it shows up in contacts on phone and I'm guessing it will take some time to show up in gmail.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] leoni1980:
Im sorry I'm VERY hung over!
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dlb92:
Ok so I've been installing CM5 and 6 and reverting back to frf91 periodically. Since the beginning I've noticed drops in download speed when using cyanogenmod. Now the situation has got a little rediculous.

With frf91 I was getting 2-3mbps. With cyanogen it was lower, now it is less than 600kbps and dropping. I used to be able to nandroid backup to frf91 and it would fix the problem. No more.

The first time it happened I called T-mobile and they reset my iHLR settings which they said were corrupt and it brought my speeds back up. So I reinstalled CM thinking it was fixed. The speeds went back up to 2-3mbps but then I rebooted my phone and they were back down to 600kbps.

I called T-mobile back a second and third time to reset those settings and that didn't help anymore now I was stuck at 600kbps whether I reverted or wiped. I was about to call Nexus one support but then I did this:

I factory reset from within the settings in main menu versus in the boot menu and when it came back up I disabled syncing/backup of data. This fixed my speeds! So I reinstalled CM6 thinking my problem was solved. I followed the same procedure and it worked, speeds were 2-3mbps. I then rebooted phone and speeds dropped to 600kb/s.

So I reinstalled frf91 backup, did the same procedure again, speeds went back up to 2-3mbps, I then rebooted phone and speeds continued to be 2-3mbps.

WHAT IS GOING ON????? Why can't I installed CM and have it work?

thanks.
[Touch HD General] starwave:
Has anyone actually got this to work? I'd love to try it out with the blackstone.

The phone isn't recognized when connected to the PC. Currently I'm running Froyo and I tried connecting it to 64-bit windows 7 and 32 bit vista, also using various cables just to be sure.

It is charging though. Does anyone have any idea why it isn't recognized?
[Touch HD General] xUmaRix:
It alwasy work.u just need to use driver from xdandroid git
[Touch HD General] starwave:
Just figured out that the USB connection only works when you start android with the USB cable connected. Connecting it after booting doesn't work.
[Touch HD General] la3bna:
It also helps to have the coorect drivers form Android SDK kit and droif explorer. With droid explorer you are abel to copy files to and from your device ;)
[Desire General] sabbourh:
strange ha? , but i just hate htc for making such a great phone with a bad speaker,

everywhere i read i see that everyone is saying that the speaker is bad, and the earpiece volume is still something that i didn't get any confermation about its sound quality.

and the thing is i love android and i love the Sense interface, but i work in the most noisy place you can imagine and my current pro2 is really helping me a lot when it comes to sound quality esp from the earpiece.

i don't konw if i made the right decision i really love that phone, but i can't risk of having a bad earpiece.

what do you think? , should i wait and see the desire hd , or whatever will come by the end of the year with that 3.0 version of android , or just get myself the phone that i love?
[Desire General] RaptorRVL:
I have the strangest suggestion for you: Try it out yourself!

So.. either give the sound quality a check with some demo unit in a store or something. If they don't have one, perhaps even ask if they can turn a Desire on for you so you can check the sound yourself.

Even better! Find someone (a friend, coworker etc) who owns a Desire. Then give the sound a try -right- at the place where you think it's important (e.g. noisy workplace).

Waiting for another phone or Android 3.0 could always be worth the wait. Who knows.. But there is absolutely no guarantee that the speaker/headphones will be better on that phone/those phones.

And since you don't really have any conformation about the earpiece quality yourself (and I guess you think it's really important), I think you should really give this a good test yourself.

Read: no matter what phone you buy, always check the quality yourself. Don't believe what others say. Perhaps someone else their quality standards is higher than yours, or they think other stuff is more important than you think.
[Desire General] sabbourh:
well , you're very right, but the problem is that htc agent in Egypt is treating us like they are selling diamond :) , you can't try a device, if it's opened it's yours, and if you're lucky enough to find a demo device it's not for use with a sim card, you can try the software and everything except not making a phone call :)

even contacting the support is a night mare, as they are not authorized to speak :) their only job is to accept phones and send it to repair shops that belong to the agent , but they can't comment on anything.

even e-mail and phone support on the website , they don't provide any help at all

i don't have any freind who has the htc desire, and that's why i didn't try it

but don't you think that htc is really making no effort in providing us with better hardware.

i mean , why didn't they just make this phone with stereo speakers and aluminum body? and a 4inch display , simply cuz it's for the desire hd that's everyone is talking about

my point is i am begining to feel that these companies are really leaving problems in their devices , so we can think of upgrading our phones more often than we do
[Desire General] taoranga:
The speaker is indeed aweful, but I bought an x-mini capsule speaker and its better then any phone speaker I've ever used! Hope I helped.
[Desire General] sabbourh:
thanks , that was a lot of help :)
[Desire General] Rambo87:
Not to mention the terrible touch screen and the ****ty AMO led. I'd say wait
[Desire General] supasye:
Terrible touch screen and ****ty amoled? R u mad?

Headphone sound quality is fine for me too.
[Desire General] sabbourh:
now that's news to me , i didn't hear anyone complaning from the screen , what's wrong with it?
[Desire General] sbdags:
Nothing. :rolleyes:
[Desire General] cez10:
if ur from the UK then order one via phone from tmobile and you get about 8 days to return it :) so you got 8 days to test it :)
[Desire General] aalviedo:
The speaker is ok the problem is the placement of the thing... it's in the back of the phone making it less audible.
[Desire General] RaptorRVL:
The screen might be a personal thing. Personally I love the amoled screen, very nice to watch movies etc :) And the touchscreen is also very nice, very sensitive.

Guess supasye means the somewhat (possible) purple hue and the multitouch bug (which you probably never going to notice with normal usage).

My screen was very purple, so I've send it back for repair. Unfortunately the replaced device has some weird problem with the touchscreen (gets less responsive after some time, will be replaced now as well).

But as far as I can gather that's all an exception. I have multiple friends with a Desire and those all work perfectly. I can't wait until I get a new Desire back, and can start enjoying the device again! :D

As for output quality, I think it's perfect for normal usage. You can always buy some better quality headphones or something.

But then again, my standards are not that high for this. I don't use headphones that much and when I play music it's usually over bluetooth (in the car).
[Desire General] sabbourh:
thank you all for sharing your opinions

like i was saying , my point is that i feel that htc is becoming more and more a monopoly player with no competition to face it.

it's like the story of lamborghini and ferrari :) , i see htc as the ferrari but i want a lamborghini :)

i see lots of people saying that the speaker does not work well , yet i don't see any actions from htc worldwide to improve it , much like apple with its phone antenna problem.

it's like those big companies refuse to say that they did something wrong , or even try to fix its problems.

htc in egypt is very bad in customer service , that's why i read a lot of reviews so i can make sure that i am buying the right headset.

sadly i can't buy the desire from outside Egypt for two main reasons, one it will not have arabic , my language, and two i will pay about 30% as taxes and customs.

moreover i get the feeling that once i buy the desire , a new model will be released with everything corrected, which makes you think , did they make such mistakes on purpose?

i don't like paying lots of money for my phone , and i don't like upgrading unless i am convinced that there's a real value being added.

but with all the great things that i see in the desire, i feel that waiting will be better due to that fact that i feel that htc did on purpose make the desire with speaker problems and 3.7 screen , so they can sell the next desire with a 4 or 4.3 screen and a stereo speaker.
[Desire General] RaptorRVL:
I don't believe they create 'bad devices' on purpose, just to sell more of the next generation. E.g., put a crappy speaker in product X and then improve a bit for product Y. As a setup plan to sell more product Y devices. Although.... with some of the HTC products in past I'm not so sure lol :p

What HTC does, and has been doing for all along really, is create a nice device. And with almost the same internals and technology, bring a slightly improved version of that device on the market later (a bit like your example with a Desire, and then later a Desire HD).

HTC pushes out lots of models. When you buy one, a somewhat more improved version of that model will be out in a few months. And perhaps another one after that.

Then a new 'generation' devices will be release, and the same thing happens.

It's a proven and working strategy which seems to work very nicely for HTC. If you wait for the 'Desire HD' with bigger screen and stereo speakers, by that time something else is already around the corner.

However! Since those things cost quite some money, you have to be really sure it's what you want. So if you are not too sure about the Desire and actually rather wait for the 'next Desire', it's a good thing you can wait.

Not too many people (including me lol :D ) have the ability to remain calm and wait. Although I'm glad I bought the Desire when it came out. I just have to restrain myself to wait until the 'next generation' of HTC models :D
[Desire General] th3:
Do you specifically mean the loudspeaker sound quality and/or sound volume loudness?

As to the latter, maybe the end of this page will help somewhat: http://www.anandtech.com/show/3826/motorola-droid-x-thoroughly-reviewed/19

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- Sent via my HTC Desire -
[Desire General] Jiia:
I really love my Desire and I have had no problems with it but I guess there are some faulty models out there too.

If the loudspeaker is important to you, I'd wait for a new model. Desire's loudspeaker is the worst one I've ever seen. If you have no way of testing the device yourself there's an easy way to try it home: just buy the cheapest earplugs you can find, cut off the other earpiece, plug them to any source of audio and maximize the volume. That's what the loudspeaker sounds like, or maybe even worse.

The earpiece is not good either but it does it's job. I often have to ask people to talk more clearly because I can't hear what they are saying due to the poor sound quality.

But for HTC's defense I have to say that the bundled handsfree earplugs are very good and the sound quality of them is impressive. So if you're going to go with Desire, I'd advice you to either use the bundled handsfree or buy a better one yourself. :)
[Desire General] sabbourh:
i disagree that htc does not use the idea of making bad devices so it can sell better ones later

look at the tytn 2 then pro one then pro2.

they make a great phone then instead of improving it they make a bad one , then they improve it again in the exact way it was supposed to naturally evolve.

( and by the way i used all of the three mentioned phones)

but look at the tytn one then the 2 , now that was a better upgrade , and worth the money too.

now as i was saying i am not going to buy the desire, although i love the os and the sence interface, but the speaker quality and the idea that i can't try the phone till i buy it makes it just a risk that i don't want to take , so i will wait and see what the coming days will bring us with new models.

i thank you all for sharing thoughts , opinions and ideas, they were really a lot of help
[Desire General] manny calavera:
It's not that the loudspeaker is bad (it isn't), it isn't _very_ loud. It is certainly loud enough to hear the ringtone though.

As for the earpiece quality, I think it is quite good (better than iphone 3G/3GS, a bit worse than Nokia N81). I've heard from people some background hiss/buzzing may occur on 3G when the signal quality is very low. on Edge it works perfectly and quite clearly.

The included earbuds are not the worst I've seen either. They sound fine, look good.

But since I like the earcanal type, I went ahead and got me a pair of Creative EP-630i's, much better noise isolation and bass obviously. I should note that Desire is compatible with earbuds made for iphone just fine (mic and button works as it should).
[Desire General] JohnSteveDoe:
I'd get a Droid X, if you can get your hands on it. If only for resizable widgets. But extra screen space, noise cancellation², HD recording and a gorgeous 8M camera with panoramic mode make me gush too.
[Desire General] sabbourh:
i think that it won't have the great sence interface which is one of the main features that makes me love the htc desire,

but you know , waiting for that rumered desire hd seams to be a good idea after reading all of your opinions :)
[Desire General] shure2:
this used to be my main annoyance and justification not to go from the desire from my tp2 (which has an awesome speaker).

i dont know how much the slightly different chassis makes to the speaker but my friends nexus one actually wasn't too bad, i was actually impressed it wasn't as bad as i thought (still lacks the little bit of base the tp2 has).

I agree with the other guys and I would go to a shop and try it out...
[Desire General] sabbourh:
since that you already had a tp2 like me and now you have the desire, how's the earpiece sound quality between them? i find the pro2 really good when it comes to this point, is the desire even the same or better ???
[Desire General] thongster27:
After using the touch pro2 for about 10 months i switched to the desire and i love it. Best money spent. What i do not miss about the touch pro2 is the ****ty processor, lack of ram, the constant soft reset cos the phone is so slow and the rubbish internet speed. What i do miss is the qwerty keypad and that is the only thing that i miss. My advise is go get the desire. The loud speaker is not that bad. I can tell you that after using the pro2 myself.
[Desire General] zen123:
I had a Desire for a few weeks & found it to be a great device. But as the OP says the external speaker is indeed crappy. Volume is too low & very tinny sound.

I now have Samsung Galaxy S whose speaker is much much better. But again the device is not perfect.
[Desire General] sabbourh:
i can live with a bad speaker, but i cann't live with a bad earpiece

call quality and voice clarity over the earpiece is a deal breaker for me
[Desire General] Jabbafat23:
Wow, you all have crappy Desires, can't complain about the noise quality of the loudspeaker, generally prop it against something hard and give the speaker a bit of space and the sound reflection works great. I'm not an audiophile so I'm not fussy about lack of bass (if any) and such but I have no tinniness, fuzziness during calls except for when I'm in a bad reception area (better than an iPhone 3Gs at least)

Actually use iPhone headphones as they are comfortable, actually get told to turn my music down when at work.
[Desire General] Jabbafat23:
A few suggestion would be to plug in some external speakers (not dodgy ones or you will have amplified your fears) or connect a Bluetooth headset.

I don't know where you get the idea of HTC making dodge phones just so people will buy the next generation of phones, people in America have that tinge thing going on too, any company worth its salt knows that you make a good quality product and people use it and love it and they will buy your next one and tell their friends as well. Or have a multi million dollar marketing branch. If you have crappy products, people will leave, its that simple. No one forces you to buy a product, you do it of your own will. Stereo speakers don't necessarily mean better quality either. They may just put 2 of the Desire's current speakers into it.
[Desire General] th3:
There is and never has been anything wrong or bad about the audio jack output. It's very good actually. The loudspeaker is what has brought in the complaints because of the sound quality when placing a call on loudspeaker or when playing back some audio. It's medium output but sometimes screechy with a distinct lack of bass.

I would class it from good to mediocre depending on the application and audio playing. The standard AMR audio is what is poor, very poor. I mean, I record audio with the phone daily in WMV/MPEG-4 obviously using the microphone, when having conversations with people 8-20 feet across me in the room and everything is picked up and replayed loud and clear using the loudspeaker. At full volume, it is far too loud actually. But this is only with some apps that record and playback in high quality PCM/ACC/WMV/MPEG-4, which is far better than the default 8Kbps AMR audio. Such apps let you control the tone and pitch to some extent, too.

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- Sent via my HTC Desire -
[Desire General] dgattenb:
I have a desire orange UK... It's a phone .. a fab and wonderful phone.. but a phone... I have a pair of 80 pounds headphones.. that I plug into it.. if I want " good " sound....as for the screen .... it's the best screen ever .
[Desire General] sabbourh:
i am not trying to say that htc is a bad company that makes bad devices, but what i am trying to say is that it's a good marketing strategy that htc has been following over the past few years, make a phone that's good , but just not as good as everyone wanted it to be, so when we make the phone that everyone wanted we can sell it.

look at the tytn 2 and the touch pro 1 , then the touch pro2 , doesn't it seam a logical step that we skip the pro1?

also, look at the hd 1 then hd2 , doesn't it seam that when you want to make a high end device for android you begin right from where hd2 was , not from where hd1 started?

i am also suprized about why does htc stick it's straight talk technology to pro2, why can't i get it on hd2 , or desire, can't i get a good screen with good audio as well?

htc is a great company , but it does not face a lot of chalenes from other companies, so what it does is make a great UI the htc sence and insure that its the key player in everyphone, and as for hardware improvements , it's just going on bar.

why do you think htc is insisting on intergrating the sence in andriod 3.0 and wm7 , it's their backup plan in case any of these operating system fails.

my point and the main reason that i made this thread is that i feel that i am sick and tired of htc depending on the sence to sell their phones , i also need to feel that i have the best hardware ever , and the htc desire is my example , a phone that everyone loves, but also a phone that has a mid-range speaker.

got my point