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[Captivate Android Development] MSigler:
Didn't work at first for me.

I installed Rom Manager (premium)

Installed CW recovery

Accepted SU

Tried to backup from within Rom Manager

I got a "Can't find update.zip" message.

When I rebooted and opened Rom Manager again, I got the "Error Occured" message, but it locked up on me and became unresponsive.

I uninstalled Rom Manager, rebooted, then reinstalled. I flashed CW recovery again, rebooted normally, opened rom manager again, and flashed CW recovery again.

After that I was able to use rom manager to reboot into recovery and backup.

Not sure if mine was just a fluke or what, but I figured I would share.
[Captivate Android Development] big99gt:
Titanium Backup did that to me also the first time I ran it....I've had quite a few freezes and slowdowns when opening a program for the first time and waiting for SU to kick in.
[Captivate Android Development] dweebs0r:
It should also be noted that when you chose to partition the sdcard via the recovery menu, it partitions the internal sdcard and not the external.

Maybe that can be made an option? I would like to do my nandroid backup to my external card so I have it for safe keeping.

Everything else working as expected, I enabled advanced options and downloaded the superuser package (from Extras) just to test things. Havent experienced any problems other than the sdcard wipe (which wasnt totally unexpected).

If something should happen to your phone (brick, unrecoverable error, etc), how can we reboot into this custom recovery to reflash the nandroid backup? Can we get into it via adb (adb reboot recovery)?
[Captivate Android Development] Croak:
Yeah, having an external SD Nandroid would be a great option. Not just for safekeeping, but for easy transfer in case of hardware loss or replacement.
[Captivate Android Development] big99gt:
I just did a reboot into recovery mode (the normal way, not with rom manager) and I had to click "reinstall packages" to get into the ClockworkMod recovery menu. So I'm not sure but I'm guessing (hoping) that its still available if we run into problems later.
[Captivate Android Development] Croak:
Yep. It's pretty much how the Droid and N1 people are used to doing it anyway.

Clockwork is hella handy to manage and switch between working ROMs on the fly, as well as triggering recovery mode without keypress acrobatics, but having update.zip on the SD card to fall back on using the normal restore and the stock kernel is great in case of semi-bricking, and as this last week has shown us, the Galaxy phones are a bit prone to this.
[Captivate Android Development] rob989_69:
THANK YOU!!! Been waiting for this since I got the phone, you are the man, I'll be adding to your Paypal account shortly!
[Captivate Android Development] abezapata:
Works like a charm. Thanks Koush!
[Captivate Android Development] rajendra82:
Thank you. I am new to the scene, but looks like I chose the right hardware for hacking. The swift and easy way in which I have been able to advance my freedom on this gorgeous hardware makes me forget for a while that I am on AT&T, home of the fruit carrying zombie army.
[Captivate Android Development] alexmullins:
Sweet! Can't wait to try this on my phone later tonight. Will deff be buying ROM Manager Pro
[Captivate Android Development] jhernand1102:
Thanks for this...I just bought the premium version...Since this is my first Android phone I have a question. I previously rooted my phone and uninstalled alll the AT&T bloatware, My question is about the backup I just made using this. If I restore the backup will it restore a rooted backup with out all the AT&T bloatware? Also when I ran the backup I go 2 messages at the end

No /sdcard/.andriod_secure found. Skipping backup of applications on external storage.. Is this normal?

No sd-ext found. Skipping backup of sd-ext. Is this normal?

Also I now have 2 ROM Manager icon in my application screens. 1 will open the program and the other tells me that the aplication is not installed on my phone. I tried to delete that icon but it won't go away, Any ideas? FIXED..I rebooted my phone and the extra icon went away...:)

Thanks for all help and these great apps...:)
[Captivate Android Development] rabbivj:
i got the same message, im assuming that you dont have an external sd card thats why it generated the message...
[Captivate Android Development] jhernand1102:
I do have one in my phone but there is nothing installed on it yet..maybe that's why..
[Captivate Android Development] rajendra82:
Thanks for the compliment, although I don't deserve it. I stand on the shoulders of many giants here. Now on to your question:

Case 1:

If you can connect to the phone with a computer in mass storage mode and see the contents of the internal SD card, you can copy out the zip file from the clokworkmod folder, rename it update.zip, and then boot into recovery, and then launch a clockwork session to restore the nandroid backup that you hopefully did.

Case 2:

If your computer can't connect to the phone at all as mass storage, you boot into download mode, do an Odin flash to be able to boot the phone in a stock state, then you copy out the zip file out of the clockworkmod folder, rename it, boot into a clockwork session, and restore from the nandroid backup. This works because Odin normally leaves the sdcard contents intact unless you master clear.
[Captivate Android Development] mblackm1:
dude this is great

i just recovered my first back up from I9000 rom back to rooted stock captivate rom got back my contacts and all

i sent you a paypal beer donation people like you give me inspiration to demonstrate what linux really is i cant tell you how free i feel right now
[Captivate Android Development] kamots:
I have a really lame question. I noticed that after I installed this, there was an update.zip on my sd card. do I need to keep this on there? the reason I ask is that in looking around at the various threads, alot of them say put on root of sd card and rename update.zip. then re install packages from recov. how does it know or do i know what update.zip to re install?
[Captivate Android Development] jhernand1102:
It's easy, rename the current update.zip to something else then copy over the new update.zip, run the install and then go back and delete the new one and rename the old one back to update.zip...That's what I do...
[Captivate Android Development] kamots:
thank you, I will try this:cool:
[Captivate Android Development] pj1000:
I have a question about a script error and would be grateful for some input - Here's what I'm seeing:

Open ROM Mgr

Backup Current Rom.

Name ROM Hit OK

Phone Reboots to System Recovery Mode

Finding Update Package

Opening Update Package

E:Can't open /cache/update.zip (bad) Installation aborted.

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Any ideas? Thanks for any help.
[Captivate Android Development] jhernand1102:
Did you first flash the clockworkmod recovery within ROM manager? If not do this first and then it will work..
[Captivate Android Development] pj1000:
Yes. I received a Clockworkmod Recovery was successful. Then I launched backup current ROM. After failing and subsequent rebooting, ROM Manager noted the failure once I went back in.

ADDTIONAL COMMENT: I did notice that the update.zip file had zero bytes.

UPDATE: I solved the problem by re-rooting the phone. Then I ran Rom Manager Backup again it and all ran flawlessly. (Then I upgraded to Rom Manger Premium Version)
[Captivate Android Development] KappaG9:
same problem for me
[Captivate Android Development] jhernand1102:
Something is wrong with your update.zip Mine is like 1255257 bytes...
[Captivate Android Development] kamots:
Ok, another quick question. I noticed that there was an update to rom manager making it blah blah.5 when I downloaded it, it was blah blah.4

Also was .4 when I flashed clockwork recovery. Do I need to flash another recovery with .5, or is initial .4 good enough?
[Captivate Android Development] jhernand1102:
No you do not need to flash the recovery again...
[Captivate Android Development] kamots:
Thank you. These are the things that keep me up at night. This phone has made me have ocd bad lol.
[Captivate Android Development] kamots:
In my internet travels (android police) I read that you back up current rom, then flash recovery image. In my excitement, I think I may have flashed recov image and then backed up rom. Does this matter? sorry for the dumb questions but i am trying to learn. and if i have to restore my phone for some reason, i dont want to brick it and be Like "what happened? I did everything it said " ya know?
[Captivate Android Development] jhernand1102:
No you did it right...You have to flash the clockwork recovery before you can backup your ROM.
[Captivate Android Development] kamots:
alright. Thank you again:D
[Captivate Android Development] bmvik:
how can I put my phone in stock recovery mode? I tried holding both volume keys down and power, it just powercycles. Even if let go on the second screen off. if I continue on holding - it just powercycles. If i hold down and power - it goes into download mode...
[Captivate Android Development] TimF:
Does nandroid backup at the kernel level? Say if I wanted to flash a dev kernel and I screwed something up, can I just restore from my nandroid backup and get my default kernel back in place?
[Captivate Android Development] jhnstn00:
Someone correct me if I am wrong,

Leave the ROM Manager zip file as update. Leave the zip file that you want to install with its original name. Using ROM Manager go to Reboot Into Recovery. Look for install from zip file on sdcard. Select that then locate zip file you want to install.

This way you leave the update zip file alone and install the zip file with it's original name.

I tried it with a zip that I already installed and it went through the motions. Seems like it worked.

I bricked my phone last night installing SRE1 on top of JH2 WITHOUT GOING BACK TOP STOCK FIRST. I put a different update file in internal sd and installed it. Phone wouldn't turn on after splash screen.

Couldn't fix my phone using clockwork recovery because my update zip had been renamed. Had to use Odin to flash working phone then use ROM Manager to restore my backup.
[Captivate Android Development] finalrequiem:
I just HAD to use the recovery for the first time (jacking around with the lagfix :o ). One of those times where I would have gladly paid twice what I did. Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU.
[Captivate Android Development] shaolin95:
Ok so I want to enable HSUPA on my Captivate which means I wont be able to listen to phone calls....since I work for 8 hours when I cannot answer the phone any way but use video streaming constantly I was wondering how hard would it be to go from the stock setting to the HSUPA enabled one and I was told that this application and using nandroid back ups is what I want.

Is this going to be too much trouble?
[Captivate Android Development] TexUs:
I think Google's Market is down (Either that or the piece that connects new accounts to it)... Anyway to side load this? Don't see download package.

Edit- Did a factory reset (right after flashing the new stuff... Why the hell would I need to do that???) and now it works.
[Captivate Android Development] bmvik:
I have Clockwork installed. If I start recovery from ROM Manager it bypasses stock recovery straight to Cloclwork menu. I am trying to install battery percentage indicator, which I can only do thru stock recovery menu. How can I start stock rec mode?...
[Captivate Android Development] 60hzrumble:
adb reboot recovery while connected to your PC, or

Power down, hold Volume Up and Volume down, then press and hold Power - when you see the splash screen let go of power, then the volume buttons. Takes a few tries until you get the hang of it.
[Captivate Android Development] jhnstn00:
Using ROM Manager go to Reboot Into Recovery. Look for install from zip file on sdcard. Select that then locate zip file you want to install. Try that.
[Captivate Android Development] 69Pwned:
Just perfect, thank you ....... :D
[Captivate Android Development] daraj:
looks like i get stuck with the recovery image how can I get back to the stock android recovery image?
[Captivate Android Development] madjsp:
To anyone who hasn't donated to this cause yet, this app has saved my ass for the 12,000,000th time (slight over exaggeration) and everyone in my place owes this guys as many beers as possible!
[Captivate Android Development] durrence:
Clockwork using internal memory, not external SD

Is there a way to get Clockwork to use the external micro SD card to store maps?

thanks,

durrence
[Captivate Android Development] madjsp:
You can move the clockworkmod file to your desktop or external. Just remember to put it back.
[Captivate Android Development] jc2470:
Ok I updated to i9000 rom also i9000 2.2 rom but after using recovery everything went back to stock except under status it still showed i9000 baseband. How do i get it back to captivate baseband.
[Captivate Android Development] Kaoe:
So correct me if i am wrong, if i want to go into clockwork recovery, (other than rebooting from rom manager) i need to go into stock recovery and reinstall packages (which means leaving the clockwork zip file as "update.zip")

if this is the case.. i cannot flash files onto my phone with the rename as "update.zip" method anymore unless i want to flash things onto my phone without a nandroid backup...

battery indicator install is not working with rom manager... anyone else having this problem?
[Captivate Android Development] techmik67:
Semi-noob here, but in my case(s) Odin DOES NOT find my device unless I follow this EXACT procedure:

Open Odin 3.1 from the Designgears "overclock 1.2.1 mod" thread, if you don't have it.

Point to tar (and sometimes pit)

with phone off, hold vol buttons and insert usb.

As it enters d/l mode it should be recognized. If not I'm pretty sure it's the drivers. Several different versions out there.
[Captivate Android Development] techmik67:
Ok, had a bricked phone. Odin, then again, then just flash updated DesignGears 1.2.1a SREv1.2.1a. Now rooted. Re-d/l-ed Rom manager and Titanium.

I open Rom Manager, click Flash Clock work recovery, choose Captivate, it tries, then get AN ERROR OCCURED WHILE DOWNLOADING YOUR RECOVERY popup.

What now?
[Captivate Android Development] life2monkeys:
Same error, "an error occured while downloading your recovery" this is my first install of ROM manager, just rooted and am now trying to get this up and running, T_T
[Captivate Android Development] techmik67:
Maybe it was an over loading thing. Works now. Testing Rom Manager/Clockwork/Nandroid.
[Captivate Android Development] Rhiannon224:
Okay, I am in the process of running ClockworkMod Recovery, I followed the guide and I am using ROM Manager Full version. I have the original firmware and I am using Unleash the Beast V0.2 and the clock widget and Ryans 1 click lag fix from the market. My phone went into download screen I clicked on reistall packages and it hung for a bit, about 5 minutes but I just looked down and it is still running. Could the paritions in Ryans lagfix cause this? Or is it normal for this to take a little bit? It appears to be hung again. Now it's restarting, let's see what we got.

update: worked like a charm, you rock for this, glad I paid for this a few weeks ago, just now used it to make a back up, I should've done this before changing and deleting crapware. Well, there's the old reliable and finicky Odin for flashing to out of box state. I don't think I'll need to, my replacement Captivate dosen't have the random shutdown issue the previous one had. I copied the Clockwork file to my external because Android has made me OCD.

Bring on the costom ROMS!
[Captivate Android Development] Aerimus:
OK..I understood the first part prior to this, and that's why I was asking the question.

My issue was with using a different "update.zip" file to flash something, and my point being that you could no longer "reinstall" the clockworkmod recovery because you had temporarily replaced it and it seemed to me that then would be the most important time to need it! So, my fears are true with it apparently.

The situation I ran into that started this all was that I bricked my Captivate when trying the lag fix from an "update.zip" file. When I tried to recover, I obviously couldn't get into clockworkmod recovery because the update.zip file was no longer right.

I tried everything possible to get my phone to go to download mode, and it REFUSED to, and believe me when I say I tried every method I've seen on these forums. Therefor I ended up screwed and needed to replace my phone. Now, I'm a little gun shy about using update.zip files...I'd rather keep that recovery file there for the good feeling it gives me.:)
[Captivate Android Development] bmvik:
yep , same problem.... And I cant get an answer...
[Captivate Android Development] shaolin95:
Hi all

My Market suddenly stopped installing apps...it says downloading and that is it so I think I am going to be restoring from a previous back up

.

Quick questions.

I should be able to get all my apps back after recovering and all my mods will be there too?

Is it just a matter of selecting the back up I want to restore?

Thanks!
[Captivate Android Development] techmik67:
If you use the update.zip from Clockwork it loads a similar menu in green type. One of the options on this menu, besides Nandroid, is RUN UPDATE.ZIP, which I THINK runs the new file you are trying to use. My only confusion is i THINK you have to move the other peeps update.zip to sdcard/sd instead of sdcard/ where update.zip for clockwork is. Check the Clockwork thread pls. I an NOT an expert on this..... just been reading a lot of forums =)

just noticed this IS the clockwork thread =) my bad.

also, i MAY have seen something that says - name the other (not clockwork)update.zip into install.zip, which the clockwork menu will ask if you want to install. This would be in the SAME sdcard/ root as update.zip, NOT inside sdcard/sd. I believe this is what happens:

Reboot into recovery mode

reinstall packages

(clockwork update.zip runs)

green menu pops-up

there is an option to install zip from sdcard

there is an option apply sdcard:update.zip

Now I'm confused...... I keep update.zip from clockwork right where it should be, sdcard/

If I want to install one of these other update.zip files for lagfix or sre, i'm no longer sure how to do it.... i'll reread thread but maybe someone could sum up my question from the last sentence?

Thanks
[Captivate Android Development] rajendra82:
Stock recovery is invoked by either :

Turning on USB debugging -> Connecting the phone via USB to computer -> In a Command Prompt on the Computer typing "adb reboot recovery"

Or:

Turning off the phone -> Then pressing Power + Vol Up + Vol Down until phone shows activity and then letting go of the power button

This will get you into stock recovery to invoke any update.zip file you want to. BTW, the circle battery mod post used to say, you can't use RM manager to apply it. You must replace the other update.zip file, and use stock recovery. Once done, get rid of that update.zip and put back the ROM manager update.zip (or whatever else). Think of update.zip as the same as the good old autoexec.bat. It can vary between boots. Put whatever you want there, and invoke it when you boot into recovery.
[Captivate Android Development] bmvik:
Thank you, also I found out there's an app on the market - http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=7925570&postcount=7
[Captivate Android Development] techmik67:
Umm..... I appreciate the help, but correct me if I'm wrong here:

! - you cannot have 2 files in the root of memory (sdcard/) named update.zip. The system automatically renames 1 of them update1.zip

2 - All those flashable updates require their own update.zip in sdcard/

3 - the clockwork recovery menu (the green type one if you reboot using clockwork) has those 2 options I mentioned..... install from sdcard is 1 and run update.zip is another. Can someone explain them?

For instance.... I am stock. I install titanium backup and root. I install and run Rom Manager and Clockwork. Now I have that update.zip file on my card to get to the green clockwork menu. If I wanna flash SRE, i need to put update.zip in sdcard/.......

My question is this: Can i use the green clockwork menu somehow, or do i rename or move 1 of the update.zip files?
[Captivate Android Development] jhernand1102:
Yes you either have to move or rename one and then use the regular recovery not the clockwork recovery to flash it...
[Captivate Android Development] techmik67:
I see...... then what are those 2 options I mentioned in the clockwork recovery menu all about? Seems like RUN UPDATE.ZIP would just try to run the clockwork file that was already in use, and INSTALL FROM SDCARD is a total mystery.....
[Captivate Android Development] rajendra82:
1. There can be only one update.zip file, but that's not a problem if you understand how an update.zip file works (see answer to 2.)

2. Many of the updates require you to use update.zip, but none of them require that you keep it there for using them. Example is the circle battery indicator mod or superrooter. For installing these programs, you place the correct update.zip file in /sdcard, then you boot into recovery and then install packages. Once that is done, you can boot the phone normally, and delete or rename the update.zip file. The packages you installed on the previous boot remain installed. They don't depend on the update.zip being there. ROM manager is the only one that needs an update.zip file to be invoked to boot into a clockwork recovery session. For the purpose of installation of other packages, rename the ROM manager version of update.zip to something else, and then put the other file there. Once you've done installing, delete the other file, and rename the old update.zip back. Done.

3. The green clockwork menu is available when you type install packages in stock recovery with the Clockwork version of update.zip file present. ROM manager just automates this by pressing install packages for you. If the update.zip file is for setting up something else, whatever code it contains will get executed when you press install packages. If you accidentally lost the Clockwork update.zip, type patch recovery in ROM manager, and the right update.zip will get copied to the /sdcard location.
[Captivate Android Development] techmik67:
Thanks, I mostly get it. Bottom line is, when doing another update, rename clockworks update.zip to, like, clockworkupdate.zip, then just name it back after installing and deleting new update.
[Captivate Android Development] jhernand1102:
That's what I do...:)
[Captivate Android Development] tschaber:
hey guys need some help, i tried doing method 1 of how to enable non-market apps, anyways my phone wont get past boot now. I do have a nandroid backup but the only way i know how to get to clockworkmod is from rom manager. Anyone have any ideas on what i can do?

nm figured it out
[Captivate Android Development] hashish16:
I have a simple question, does this backup your contacts and other settings? I my gut tells me know it doesn't since its just the ROM.

I know Titanium backup does apps, does anyone have suggestions for contacts and settings. And does Nandroid do everything? Like a straight image? Thanks!
[Captivate Android Development] shaolin95:
Well, I just had to use it as my market suddenly stopped working and so far I cannot see a single thing it did not restore so my answer would be yes it does.
[Captivate Android Development] techmik67:
As I understand it, Titanium backs up apps and data while RomManager/Clockwork does EVERYTHING.

So if you need to just restore, nandroid will prob do it, but if you UPGRADE to test a NEW rom, you need Titanium to restore your app data.

At least that's how it was explained to me......
[Captivate Android Development] stdmxp12:
Thanks

I am new to android (Used IPhone before) but you guys are amazing. Thanks. Purchased premium
[Captivate Android Development] furious6226:
i give up for some reason everytime i go to Rom Manager and install rom from sd card i get this error E/: cannot open ect and i have already did flash clockwork mod recovery