yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Captivate Android Development] confrontation:
Can this be flashed? so that it is on there for good as in I dont need the update.zip there.

If so how?

Cheers
[Captivate Android Development] grave101:
When I make backups, does this backup my apps plus the app data as well?
[Captivate Android Development] Jeepsdaddy:
Need captivate froyo version

Well?? : )
[Captivate Android Development] terrigan:
+1 to Froyo version, i've jumped on the bandwagon and the Update.zip doesn't install due to a signing issue.
[Captivate Android Development] temporizer:
Ok. I have 2.2 installed (thank you designgears), however, i am unable to install cog 2.2 because i am unable to install Clockwork Recovery, it says "unsigned" or something to that effect. Any ideas or is Clockwork Recovery not working for 2.2 yet?

Thanks for all your help!
[Captivate Android Development] jhnstn00:
Error Message:

E:failed to verify whole-file signature

E:signature verification failed

Installation aborted.
[Captivate Android Development] temporizer:
That's exactly what I'm seeing. Any suggestions?
[Captivate Android Development] Rhiannon224:
Read the forums guys, it's been discussed in numerous threads that Clockwork doesn't work with the 2.2 it is beta and unsigned. Clockwork doesn't support it because it isn't signed.
[Captivate Android Development] techmik67:
The ONLY way to install STOCK FROYO 2.2 is designgears exe version at the moment. It is a 1 click odin installer.

The only way to install COG 2.2 is a clockwork installed zip file. Clockwork doesn't work with 2.2 yet, so you cannot flash over. MUST be run from ECLAIR 2.1.
[Captivate Android Development] ewingr:
I interpret your second sentence to be that we can install the COG2.2 version with Clockwork. Great.

But, then, I presume that if we want to go back to our current 2.1 build, we would need to do an ODIN One Click, then Root, Then install Clockwork, and then restore our current version of 2.1. No?

I've just read this entire thread. Anxious to get started. Was thinking it would be nice to be able to switch between the 2.1 and 2.2, but I gather it's not quite that simple. Headed over now to the 2.2 thread to get caught up on that. (That one ws growing fast...probably take a week to catch up :D )

BTW...I already have the paid version, and have done my first Nandroid (I guess that is what the backup from this package).

Great stuff!
[Captivate Android Development] terrigan:
You're correct, i did those exact steps this morning and installed 2.2 Beta 2.
[Captivate Android Development] rob989_69:
To get Cog, flash using odin 1 click to JF6, do a master clear (not necessary but highly recommended, mine was super buggy till I did the master clear. AND NOTE: THIS WILL WIPE YOUR INTERNAL SD SO BACKUP EVERYTHING FIRST!!!!)

You need to have the update.zip that is installed by flashing clockwork through ROM manager. This does require root, so I just grapped it from someone else so I didn't have to root again. I don't have time to setup a host to get you the file but if someone else can't I will by EOD today.

Drop the update.zip and cognition onto your internal sd and reboot to stock recovery. Install packages, it'll reboot back to stock recovery, install packages again. Now you're in Clockwork Recovery. Choose Install zip from SD, then choose zip to install. Then browse to the zip using volume keys. Select using power.

And Enjoy.
[Captivate Android Development] jhnstn00:
Anybody know how to get this ROM signed?

Edit: misread cog beta changelog. Thought this was working on that rom.
[Captivate Android Development] DJNgoma:
Flash back to JF6, less of a hassle.
[Captivate Android Development] techmik67:
Why hasnt anyone noticed that not only is Rom Manager updated today, but clockwork has a v2.5.1.1 under older or experimental mods..... it has new options if you flash it instead of current v2.5.0.4... and it's a bigger update.zip.... 1.8mb instead of 1.2....

Anyway, I could use a description of the new features =)
[Captivate Android Development] tbong777:
Installed renamed recovery-Update.Zip and JH7 OTA,zip and got the error

E:cannot open /SD Card/update.zip
[Captivate Android Development] jhester1967:
Update.zip versus my backup?

If i want to restore back to my original firmware when i first ran clockwork recovery, do i click on the update.zip file and run that or do i run the backup i made? I'm a little confused with what exactly that update.zip file is used for if we can make our own back-ups? Also where do i put custom rom's on the phone to flash with clockwork?
[Captivate Android Development] Rhiannon224:
I just answered the question you posted here. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=8629857#post8629857
[Captivate Android Development] jhester1967:
Rhiannon224: I saw that and thanks for the reply. No one replied on that for a bit so i thought i had a better chance for a reply in a post already created. Question still remains though about where to place a custom rom so i can install it on this phone. I was used to flashing rom's with my HTC hero which you had to mount your sd card on the computer and just place the file on it and reboot into recovery and apply.
[Captivate Android Development] mcord11758:
If the rom is clockwork.fladhable.you want to save the file to the root of your SD. Then go into rom. Manager and install rom from SD option

Captivate

Cog 2.16
[Captivate Android Development] Rhiannon224:
It all depends on how the developer designed it. Some are done using ROM Manager, some are installed using an update.zip in recovery.
[Captivate Android Development] shinji257:
For me after installing I had to select reinstall packages but then the backup didn't auto-execute once in Clockwork Recovery like it said. I still had to go to Backup and Restore then choose Backup from there. Is that normal?
[Captivate Android Development] kroniced:
Can I sideload ClockWorkMod rather than using market

Can I load ClockWorkKMod off my SD card so that I do not have to login to the market just to install CWM when trying out various builds, one after another. If the chef's have their stuff right they would all would bake your utility right in! Great werk, have a fat bud on me!
[Captivate Android Development] kroniced:
ClockWorkMod here

It is just as quick to login to as to install it via rebooting and utlizing recovery mode toi load CWM. Oh well if anyone needs it here is ClockWorkMod:

Can I just extract these myself manually if I have su permissions? I guess I can try...
[Captivate Android Development] BakedGoodsX:
I'm having a really hard time getting this to work. When I try to install a ROM from the SD card, or even just 'reinstall packages' from the menu I get this error:

E:failed to verify whole-file signature

E:signature verification failed

Installation aborted.

I've tried the following:

- Installed the recovery file via rom manager

- downloaded recovery file (many times from many sources), renamed it update.zip and placed in root directly

- I'm using 2.2 AT&T vanilla, rooted. What am I missing here? Googling the error seems to provided little if anything (eg. name sure file isn't update.zip.zip--it isn't).

Any advice?
[Captivate Android Development] flashman2002:
Att vanilla? What rom are you using and gave you done the 2e recovery fix because froyo did not work off the bat with cwm.
[Captivate Android Development] BakedGoodsX:
Yeah, I'm using the leaked 2.2 ATT rom from the forums, I can't link but it's from I897UCJI6-OCD-REV02-Low-designgears.exe

And no, I'm not aware of a 2e recovery fix? I'll Google it.
[Captivate Android Development] techmik67:
Use this downloaded odin and put the .tar file in pda..... that will give you 2e recovery and clockwork and other update.zips will work.
[Captivate Android Development] BakedGoodsX:
Thank you very very much. It would have taken me ages to figure that out.

Unfortunately it brings me to my next issue, which is that whenever I've used Odin it stalls at:

<ID:0/006> Added!!

<ID:0/006> Odin v.3 engine (ID:6)..

<ID:0/006> File analysis..

I have no idea why. That's why I've been trying to use Clockwork to install a new ROM because Odin just stalls. Any suggestions?
[Captivate Android Development] techmik67:
You are not using odin right.....

Unzip what you d/l-ed from here. Turn off your phone and unplug, remove battery, sim, and sdcard.

Click the odin.exe

Click PDA and point to the .tar file in the same folder.

Insert battery into phone

Hold both volume buttons

Plug in usb..... DO NOT RELEASE VOL BUTTONS until you see the yellow triangle!!

When you see a yellow box with COM in it in odin and the other box says "added", click start.

It will take like 5-10 seconds.

Close odin and unplug after it says REMOVED.

After it boots, shut down and replace sim and sdcard, if you have.

Thats it!!
[Captivate Android Development] BakedGoodsX:
Thank you for the instructions. I haven't had a chance to try them yet, but I am sure I was doing it wrong. Thanks again.
[Captivate Android Development] cdwhit:
Ok, any time someone mentions return to stock, the answer is Odin, but Oden is not a panacea. My phone would do the 3 finger recovery until I ran Oden,and now all my volume buttons do is adjust volume.

The closest I came to a successful Odin run I got a message that said 1 successful/ 1failed. Since that day I haven't had 3 finger recovery or download. In addition I now can't get OTA updates apparently?

Why is it not possible for someone with a fully functional stock phone to make an image or update file that could be installed over the computer with Kies or even command line to return the phone to stock. Maybe even allow ota updates and return the ability to enter recovery?

What am I missing (other than the technical knowledge and resources on how to do it?
[Captivate Android Development] opcow:
Use this instead of the one-click. People blithely recommend flashing to stock using the one-click flasher without a warning about losing the 3 button combo and the increased danger of bricking. I can only assume most of them don't know about the problem, don't know there is an alternative or don't care.
[Captivate Android Development] cdwhit:
Using the new and improved Odin, will OTA updates work again, or are those gone forever?
[Captivate Android Development] DemonWav:
You'll get OTA's, if you're running stock ROM. You won't if you run anything else.
[Captivate Android Development] joeshmoe08:
question

Ok so I have a question. I know what clockwork is but to load this do I have to boot through rom manager or is there a button combo to do this?
[Captivate Android Development] Tenacious--M:
I did the Rom backup this way...is this correct?

How to Install ClockWork Recovery:

1. On the menu there should be an option labeled “FLASH CLOCKWORK RECOVERY.”

Press it.

2. Once a popup says that it has been succesful press “BACKUP CURRENT ROM”

3. Your phone will now restart and backup your ROM

4. If your phone does not start backing up and instead boots into a blue menu use the volume

keys to select reboot now and then press the power button. Try to do all the steps again.

5. Wait for it to finish and then it should restart.

Btw, what is a Nandroid backup Im reading in here... sorry if its a dumb question, but Im entirely new to Android..
[Captivate Android Development] mcord11758:
A nandroid is a backup of your phones state. Apps, settings, etc

Captivate

Cog 2.2
[Captivate Android Development] ewingr:
Wrong understsanding or wrong process?

I've use restore with CWM several times, but I continue to have issues from time to time.

My understanding

Taking this example: I have a Cog 2.16 RM backup, and a Cog 3.2b2 backup.

It is my understanding that I could just go into recovery, select one of them to restore, and I'm up on that ROM. And vice versa, go into restore, and select the other, and I'm up on that ROM.

An Assumption/Question

I should probably do a restore to factory defaults before running one? If I don't, it may work, but may have issues.

What I've experienced and want to 'fix'

A number of times I have done a restore, only to find it boots to the AT&T screen and never boots up the OS.

What is the most likely thing I am doing wrong? I'd like to avoid whatever it is, because when I do that all I know to do is ODIN back to stock, and go through the process of installing root; rom manager; restore from that again.

Any thoughts?
[Captivate Android Development] Chargerdude70:
+1 on this one....question...if everyone uses this to back up their ROMs, why are they always ODIM'ing back to 2.1 or whatever to install the latest and greatest ROM when they should have a stable backup of their original?

If I flash back using the backup of my 2.1 OTA update...Will the phone be as good as it was from the get go or will it have traces of all the flashing I have been doing since the OTA update? Or should I do all the clearing and wiping of data?
[Captivate Android Development] Rhiannon224:
Chargerdude CWM backs up your ROM but doesn't touch the kernel. Usually you flash back to stock to keep from having leftover stuff conflicting also why you read about master clear being done before flashing new ROMS. Plus if you are smart you will save a copy of the update.zip to your PC then after flashing back to stock you don't have to bother really rooting.
[Captivate Android Development] ewingr:
Just finished reading a few posts in the Cognition thread, with people wondering what is going on with the need to do multiple erases/formats to get things right. To go to the latest ROM it seems the folks who go to the trouble listed below have the best fortune (ie, fewer errors/FCs, etc)

FActory Data Reset

Master Clear

Format SD Card

Erase Cache and Devalchk stuff

Flash original 2.1

Add Rom MAnager capability

INstall Earlier Version of 2.2

Install latest version of 2.2

A bunch of clearing of flash involved there. Those that don't go through that process seem to be likely to come back with complaints of FCs, etc.

My post that you replied to above has been here a couple days; I posted same in the Cognition thread with no response. I wonder if the no response is actually saying something more than nobody knows, or will take the time to respond.
[Captivate Android Development] Rhiannon224:
Probably your question in the Cognition thread got overlooked because of the thread moving too fast. It is a CW question so I would think this is a better place to have your question answered. It is less congested in this thread.
[Captivate Android Development] ewingr:
I agree, and posted her first. Having no response (still in fact) I posted in the Cog thread. It is only Cog ROMs I am using.

I'm getting the feeling that using ROM MGR is not as clear cut as it sounds, especially with all the repeat/flash back/ erase stuff going on for COG's roms to work w/o FCs, etc.

I am pretty much convinced that if I backup my 2.2, flash back to 2.16 with ROM MGR, and then back to 2.2, w/o first erasing, and going though the litany of preparation, I would have trouble.

Maybe not so much so if flasing to different ROMs of same OS version.

I have no idea, but that is waht it seems like at this point.
[Captivate Android Development] Chargerdude70:
thank you for the info...I will take your advice about my update.zip file
[Captivate Android Development] Chargerdude70:
could be both...I posted over there in resonse to someone wanting to be able to get to the root cause of all the FC problems...my answer to him was that untill we ALL are flashing the same way...we never will...untill you commonize something..you cant do a root analysis on it. I believe designgear...for his own benifit...should write out step by step instructions as to how HE wants us to install his roms....not some generic....but specific... in laymans terms like "Flasing Roms for Dummies". This would solve a bunch of problems....my .02 on the matter.
[Captivate Android Development] Rhiannon224:
This is because, like I said in my previous post, ROM Manager only backs up ROMS not kernels, if you are flashing back to anything eclair based via your backup you flash stock first because of the modem and kernel. If you don't you will have FC issues.You are correct that if your flashing ROMS of the same OS version if by OS you mean kernel.

It is always good to flash back to stock and master clear so that you start from a clean slate when flashing ROMS, this way nothing is hanging around and causing corruption and FC. All of the ROMS I have flashed have a pretty long list of steps to do in order to get it to work correctly.

Sometimes questions don't get answered because they may have been answered previously in the thread and it becomes a littered thread and therefore not everyone gets questions answered.

Flashing ROMS and kernel or anything is a process and it is a learning process for us all.
[Captivate Android Development] Chargerdude70:
I am reluctant to ODIN back to JF6. My phone is one of phones that would not go into recovery mode with the 3-button method. It was reinstated with the JH7 OTA update. I have once been in trouble flashing with no access to a computer and the 3button saved my skin. Hate to loose that.
[Captivate Android Development] Rhiannon224:
c3poLOL has made a version of Odin back to stock that has the three button combo fix for those of you that have this problem it is safer than the original, here's the link. Read the first page of the OP because you have to download the package and unzip it and it is the standalone Odin flasher so you have to put the pda.tar and the pit files in the correct slots in Odin. The drivers needed are also there but I believe they are the same drivers as the Odin one click preloaded.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=818439
[Captivate Android Development] Chargerdude70:
thank you for that...you been oh so helpful
[Captivate Android Development] Rhiannon224:
No problem, glad to help. Good Luck and happy flashing.
[Captivate Android Development] H-Man 38:
i want to go back to regular recorvery ...How do you Do that??
[Captivate Android Development] DAGr8:
I tried posting this many place I guess this is the place to ask .

I come from the motorola milestone.. when we do a nandroid back up on that device it saves ALL . and by all I mean ALL .

Of course we cant run custom kernel and flash different modems etc on the milestone , but we do have a few different kernel , from 2.0 to leaked 2.2.1 some 'roms were also built from source on diffrent kernel and a few 'dirty mods' to run htc sense UI and MIUI are also working ...

Open Recovery ( thats how its called on the milestone comunity ) has many features based on koush's work ...

My concern is the backup / restore process is much more complete and detailed ...

one can choose to restore/backup all user data including/excluding personal informations installed apps etc ...

After restoring /All (most comlpete back up possible) Even the widget would show up as they were before the back up was made of course a full wipe before restoring is often needed or boot loop would occur ...

there use to be some problems when restoring backups from 1 kernel to another but they all been fixed .....

My question is why (or how ) is this possible ( or not) on the SGS , this for example woudl make it much easier and fun when testing diffrent roms ...
[Captivate Android Development] chickon1:
recovery mode/DL mode

Having an issue going into download mode and I was running clockwork. I was trying to unroot with the rm commands from the terminal and clockwork went crazy and now my phone will not boot. If I hold the volume + power keys all i can access is the recovery mode and none of these options do anything.
[Captivate Android Development] kegobeer:
What about removing the battery and all cards, inserting the battery, holding down just the volume keys, and then inserting the USB cable (that is already hooked to the PC)? Does that get you into download mode?
[Captivate Android Development] wtjones:
Recovery problem

I'm having a problem entering clockworkmod recovery mode. I rooted my phone, backed up apps with Tit, installed rom manager and clockworkmod, backed up my rom, dled cognition 2.1.7(?), tried to install the new Rom. Clockworkmod loaded, I selected install rom from .zip, I got an error message about certain files couldn't read/load. I rebooted into recovery mode expecting to get clockwork recovery, instead I got android system recovery. So I selected reinstall packages and now I'm getting this message: replacing stock recovery with clockworkmod recovery, and it instantly reboots into Android system recovery. I'm stuck in this loop now. When I try to boot regularly it just hangs on the AT&T logo.

I'm on a captivate. I'm pretty sure my original rom version was j6.

I can't figure out how to get back to clockworkmod recovery so I can reinstall my rom and start over. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[Captivate Android Development] j101399j:
Try this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=731989 then use restore
[Captivate Android Development] opticalc:
when I do a cw backup, is it backing up all my MODEM and CSC data? I ask because I have an i9000t. Its Product code is GT-I9000HKTTTT

PDA: I9000TUBJG5

PHONE: I9000TUBJG7

CSC: I9000TUUBJG4

Im concerned from flashing different ROMS from other places messing up my phones radio and want to be sure that if I restore using what CW backed up previously that I'll be able to go back to those PDA/PHONE/CSC versions
[Captivate Android Development] twstd4lfe:
Quick Question

Just got my Captivate today and did the 1-Click Root

Installed Rom Manager and now when I click Flash ClockworkMod Recovery I get nothing at all,no selection of phones...nothing.. Rom Manager is at v2.5.1.2 and im at 2.1 update 1, reset the phone and tried again and got nothing,

any ideas or am i just an idiot? haha
[Captivate Android Development] r_3:
same exact issue I am having right now.. Looking for the previous versions of rom manager
[Captivate Android Development] tanneji:
Same issue here... I wonder if his Download server is down
[Captivate Android Development] firehazard:
I'm having a problem with ROM Manager. Quick background:

I was running an older build of Cognition (was flashed using ROM Manager) and am trying to flash Assonance. I used odin to go back to stock, did a master clear, rooted, and installed ROM Manager from the Market.

When I open ROM Manager for the first time, it presents me with a couple pages of info which I happily continue through to get to the app. However, when I select "Flash ClockworkMod Recovery", the status bar at the top charges through in a split second and the flash never happens. I get no confirmation or error message.

I thought that this may be a permissions issue, so I attempted the "Fix Permissions" option, restarted the phone, with still no luck. I also attempted another one click journey to stock, master clear, etc, but I had the same issue after installing and trying ROM Manager again.

I tried on my 3G connection and on my wireless because it is my understanding that it's trying to download stuff. No go. I've looked through the contents of my phone and there is no update.zip file and nothing of interest in the clockworkmod folder and subfolders.

Trying to reinstall packages from recovery mode results in an error which states there is no update.zip file.

Any idea what's going on here?
[Captivate Android Development] Pirateghost:
throw this on your sdcard and reboot to recovery....i really dont understand why people dont just keep this file on their sdcard when they want to flash to a new rom....you dont even have to boot back to stock, just flash and boot into recovery
[Captivate Android Development] tanneji:
Same exact thing here... gonna try again in the morning and hope for the best haha
[Captivate Android Development] tanneji:
Holy crap you are absolutely right... good lord I feel like an idiot haha... Just a case of that's how I have always done it.... thanks pg
[Captivate Android Development] r_3:
ditto pg!!!!!!
[Captivate Android Development] illdroid:
so here's a question for the experts

if I flash a I9000 (jpu to be specific) into a captivate

and I flash a captivate kernel (xcal's to be specific)

what cwm I should use, captivate version or i9000 version?