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[Galaxy S I9000 General] sam213:
hi guys!

i have found a cable an i have try to change yellow and red and...WORK!!!

perfect!

tanks a lot for your help!

sam
[Nexus One General] xXJay_RXx:
i stumbled across this story. dunno if its been posted in other threads in this site but since im primarily a nexus one owner, ill post it here. look:

http://www.businessinsider.com/77-o...other-versus-just-20-of-android-owners-2010-7 only 20% of android users would buy another while 77% percent would buy another iphone? thats crap. i love android and this is coming from an ex iphone 1st gen, iphone 3g and iphone 3gs. android blows the iphone out the water with android 2.2. how can so many of us android users be unsatisfied with android? how many of you guys would buy another android device? i myself got my eye on the droid x but idk. its pretty hard to leave my nexus one ;)

okay as someone asked i copied and pasted the article so no need to go to the actual site:

"Customer loyalty is definitely one of Apple's advantages versus most of its rivals in the smartphone market.

The latest evidence: A Yankee Group survey summarized on CNNMoney (via Daring Fireball) saying that 77% of iPhone owners say they'll buy another iPhone, versus just 20% of Google Android customers who say they'll buy another Android phone.

That's a huge difference!

For now, it could be attributed to the early, half-baked state of many Android devices out there -- we assume the customer satisfaction for newer devices like the HTC Droid Incredible and Nexus One is much stronger than that of, say, the original HTC G1.

And, of course, it's quite possible that those people who don't plan to buy another Android phone will buy one anyway, just because it's the best-available smartphone at their carrier, price, or other factors.

But still -- this is a platform war we're at the beginning of, and Google needs to work with its handset partners to make sure Android is a good (and as "sticky") as possible.

(We assume BlackBerry maker RIM has also had very strong loyalty over the years, but it's not mentioned in the article.)"
[Nexus One General] ksizzle9:
Lol thas complete bs. I was the former owner of the iPhone 3g and 3gs and since i switched to android i've had eris, droid 1, N1, incedible, and now droid x, having said that, the only one i would choose the iphone over is the eris. I read a similar article on droid life one time but the loyalty to android was actually in the 80s that must be a apple fanboy blog.
[Nexus One General] galaxys:
Yep, Pure BS! Some iphonie fan wrote it...
[Nexus One General] mjm128:
All I see is the numbers, nothing about how they surveyed the people, how many people, and so on. I find that very hard to believe that 80% wouldn't buy another android phone. The iphone % I believe, since pretty much if you own an iphone you buy one every year, or you realise the mistake you made and move to another platform. Oh well, all the press is good news, Android is a viable enemy to iOS and the media and everyone else knows this now. You wouldn't have a survey even done if it wasn't.
[Nexus One General] adambenjamin:
Well I had the g1 for 2 years, and towards the end it really started to suck. It didn't have enough memory to run basic framework plus minimal applications. I always had Maps turning off the traffic due to low memory, and traffic checks are maybe the thing I use most often. ( I had ZERO anything on my homescreen as well, no apps, widgets, clocks, nada)

I went to iphone... HUGE mistake obviously (I could have figured it would be since I left iphone for android, but I thought I would give the 3GS a shot)

Then I came to the Nexus One and its uncomparable to either of these phones. If you are using a G1 on android 1.6 you really won't learn what Android is capable of, and you won't learn unless you get on a different device. Once I got to use the N1 and learn all the features of android, the G1 became more capable because I learned what it was trying to imitate. Widgets are one of the main features that make Android the winner. G1 Donut and hero/n1 Eclair are a Night and Day difference for me, and FroYo is amazing with the Dalvik cache and wifi-tether.

So, basically the majority of the people that say they would leave are on the g1 (or a similar, entry type) and don't really know what it is that they are missing.

Oh yea, and the article is BS...
[Nexus One General] xXJay_RXx:
i agree. if youre under 2.0, you wont experience the full android experience. to get the best feeling, 2.2 would be the one. this is where fragmentation is the issue :mad:
[Nexus One General] Blueman101:
What really urks me is that there is not explination of the numbers, in either article they only say the numbers, not how the numbers were gathered or who was surveyed, as far as I am concerned the statement

"Android is the greatest mobile OS ever, iPhone cant even compare"

is just as plausible given the lack of evidence to support either my statement or their numbers.
[Nexus One General] _Dennis_:
Wow. As a show of how intelligent the sites readers are the whole comments section or an argument between fanboys in who will have more market share (the android guys side) and more profit ( the ios guys side).
[Nexus One General] diversificationied:
This its probably true, if they took a sampling from att base. Att has ****ty android examples.
[Nexus One General] mingkee:
This is nosense.

As good old WM (6.x.x) is fading and WP7 won't compatible with older applications, I finally made a move and migrated to Android.

The first Android phone is nexus one, then you can imagine how high expectation I have with Android, and generally I think I made a right move.

Other than N8 (S60 cubic), the future smartphones will be Android 2.2+ based.
[Nexus One General] maRioHD:
I love my n1 and would definitely get another android phone, once my nexus one dies or something worthwhile comes along to put my n1 into retirement. :)
[Nexus One General] Blueman101:
What really pisses me off about this, is that there isn't A SINGLE BIT OF PROOF, no statistics, no evidence, no survey reports, nothing. And this thing is spreading, its the Android 3.0 rumors all over again, unsubstantiated rumors running freely on the internet, and no one is asking the necessary questions.
[Nexus One General] MaximReapage:
One question: why are we driving traffic to their site? Copy/paste the content and post it in your OP, then I might read it.
[Nexus One General] khaytsus:
73% of statistics are made up on the spot.

Sounds like MS or Apple funded FUD to me. Or a clueless fanboi.
[Nexus One General] lostinbeta:
I just converted 3 people to android fanatics in the past month. And with the aria and captivate out for att I'm getting more people on the boat for it. My sister is far from technologically inclined and she still thinks her aria is easier and better than the iphone she almost bought.
[Nexus One General] uberamd:
I'm willing to guess that 100% of people at this forum would buy Android again :rolleyes: We are hardly what I would consider an unbias source as we are browsing Android forums, clearly we love our devices.
[Nexus One General] Dai323:
I had a G1 for a year and LOVED it. Have had my Nexus One for around 2 months and I LOVE IT as well. If there was a Nexus 2, Id pick it up FOR SURE.

Too bad Google wont be doing another one. But that new 2ghz Motorola Android phone coming this winter sure sounds nice.

And yes, that article is PURE BS.
[Nexus One General] uberamd:
Eh, the article isn't pure BS. Obviously if you bring this article to Android forums you are going to find that a vast majority of the people will call the article BS and say they love their Android phone. The same thing applies if someone were to post this very article on Apple forums, people would agree and say they love their iPhone. Fan-sites for devices are the most bias corners of the internet.

Just because many people here love their Android phones doesn't just mean the article is BS. Thats one thing everyone needs to remember: anyone posting on a fan-oriented forum/site is going to have a bias toward their hardware. They are also the vocal MINORITY. 99% of customers never ever post on a website or forum about how much they love their phone. Thus, people on sites like these represent a tiny fraction of the real market opinion.

Also, CNN Money ran the same story: http://money.cnn.com/2010/07/23/technology/iphone_4_att/index.htm?section=money_latest
[Nexus One General] ericc191:
I was using windows mobile for a long time until finally making the move to android with the nexus one. I have no regrets, either. When Windows Phone 7 releases, though, I will probably move to them. And if they can't keep up pace with apps/updates/ect, I'll be back on Android. I wont be buying any Apple products ever. I do not like the way they do business.
[Nexus One General] Dai323:
Fair enough, but XDA isnt ONLY Android developement. As Android got off to a slow start, I would think its very fair to say that people who purchased Android phones in the past year (Droid, Nexus, Evo, Desire, ect) would be VERY likely to purchase another Android phone.

And Id be willing to bet it would be alot more than 20%.
[Nexus One General] Blueman101:
Your missing the point, there are no references, proof or statistics, no details no data no nothing. All it is, is two numbers.
[Nexus One General] mjm128:
What about where the sources come from. I find it very hard to believe that only 20% would buy another android phone. Obviously they aren't asking EVERY android and iphone user, so they have to take a selection. Where is their selection from? AT&T smartphone users? an apple forum? In a mall just outside an apple store? I'm sorry but there's no proof to the article. I could make a claim that 100% of android users would buy another and that 0% would buy another iphone. My statistic comes from 4 people I know, myself, another friend with an android phone, and two iphone users that can't wait for their contract to end. Is that "proof"?

If the article really is legitimate then we should see a mass amount of people dropping android when their contracts expire, right? But all we've seen is a massive increase of android users: both through devices sold, and internet usage.
[Nexus One General] DarkDvr:
+1,000,000,000.
[Nexus One General] uberamd:
I must have missed the posts where people said that it was BS due to a lack of references. Seemed like everyone here was saying "Hell no, my brother and my two friends said they are getting another one, so thats 100%!"

And I entirely agree with you, there should be sources or the article should be disregarded. At the same time people citing their own statistics of how their mom, brother, friends, etc are keeping their devices is also pointless as a single customer, or even 10 customers represents an entirely insignificant percentage of the market share.

Again, I get that there needs to be sources, but don't go around trying to supply your own personal conversion story as that is no more credible. Not to mention any conversion rate an individual and his friends may have represents an insignificant portion in the big picture.

TL;DR: Sources are needed, but quit trying to prove the story wrong by saying "WRONG! My brother and me are both buying android again!", thats equally pointless.
[Nexus One General] kayvonjoon:
CRRRRRRRRRap!

Android>Iphone Xg
[Nexus One General] :
I have had all the iphones except iphone4 and then I moved to android with the desire, then sold that and got a nexus....

There is no way I would ever have another apple iphone after sampling android. Why would I downgrade? Apple OS isn't as good as any android OS 1.5 and greater....

Froyo its just pure class, and totally is the benchmark for other phones to follow.

I think if it wasn't for fanboys, the apple iphone would be dead, as it has not even half the features a froyo'd nexus has!

Android will just get bigger and bigger, and I'm sure within 5 to 10 years will dominate the market, as the more intelligent user generation comes through, and the fanboy, "i can't even do my shoelace up without trading instructions" generation dies out.

Long live Android OS......

JD

Sent from my Google Nexus Beast
[Nexus One General] xManMythLegend:
This complety contradicts actual legit surveys where Android as next purchase for new users and current users were both over 50%.
[Nexus One General] mjm128:
Isn't no source worse than an anecdotal source? Hell, If I cite you 10 people that would buy another android phone and someone else just comes along saying saying "there was a study that 20% of android users would buy another android phone" wouldn't you wonder, without any type of information on where it came from?

Especially since we have all these activations for new android phones, many companies behind android (I doubt they would back a platform with a 20% return rate), applications that are increasing, and everything seems to be on the up and rising from other statistics that are given. It just doesn't seem legitimate for one, plus it isn't a legitimate source as there is no knowledge of where the hell this came from.
[Nexus One General] Shahpur.Azizpour:
i don't care about the percentages as long as it's not clear HOW MANY people have been asked.
[Nexus One General] kwonyewest:
I've had the G1 since its launch, and to be fair, it was REALLY user-unfriendly.

Now me being the way I am, loved messing with it and trying everything to improve it. Lots of my friends however, didn't like it because of those same reasons.

With the Nexus One I just recently got however, it couldn't be further from the truth.
[Nexus One General] rj3005:
the original post on moneycnn ( http://money.cnn.com/2010/07/23/technology/iphone_4_att/index.htm?section=money_latest#correction ) has been corrected and now has the following text added

"An earlier version of this story incorrectly said that 20% of Android customers say they'll buy another Android phone. The survey actually revealed that 20% of all smartphone customers say they'll buy an Android phone."
[Nexus One General] :
That's pretty interesting now.

Considering the android market accounts for something like 10-15% of the market share.

It actually means and increase in android interest.
[Nexus One General] stuff:
All I can say is maybe everyone said they will buy a new iPhone because, well.. lets face it, most people that get an iPhone upgrade every year.

The new Android phones are so powerful and good that you don't need an upgrade anytime soon. My N1 will be still in business 2 years from now.
[Nexus One General] uberamd:
No, I wouldn't want the personal evidence from here either. Why? Because this is a friggin Android fanboy forum, what kind of responses do you think you'll get here? Thats like going to an NRA meeting and asking if you think there should be a ban on guns. People are posting here because they own and enjoy their Android devices. Aka this is the most bias source possible.
[Nexus One General] mjm128:
Well, just like most of us thought, there was something wrong with it. And 20% of smartphone users buying another is actually pretty impressive. Android really is on the rise.

Yes, they both are bad sources, my point the is you at least know the origin of the one. With the other you don't even know that, or amount of people used in the survey.
[Nexus One General] uberamd:
Woah wait, what? Are you suddenly accepting the data now that it shows Android in a more positive way? Not the way it works. There still IS something wrong, and thats no numbers or proper info about the survey group. Just because it pats Android now doesn't mean you can accept what you're reading.

But the origin of people here doesn't matter, again because its entirely 100% bias. The only way to properly do a survey like this is to randomly go up to 5000 people on the street and ask them "Given the choice of phones on the market, which would you buy?"
[Nexus One General] Neemo:
http://blogs.yankeegroup.com/2010/07/26/setting-the-record-straight-on-iphone-and-android/

Here's what you need to read.

Summed up: Only phones running Vanilla Android were included. So no Droid or EVO 4G

Conclusion: Android is still (as we all know) kicking Apple's shiny and glossy ass.
[Nexus One General] :
That's actually wrong.

There's two kinds of "google phones".

1) "With Google" is anyphone that has google applications loaded up, just about every single android phone that has the market on it.

2) "Google Experience" currently limited to G1, Nexus, and I think the original Mytouch. These phones have only Google apps and no other other software/modifications on it.
[Nexus One General] mjm128:
Not really accepting it as fact, I don't accept surveys as fact due to their very nature. They only take a sample of the whole, but now it is more reasonable since it coincides with a number of other factors, the main one being several devices being sold out (droid x, evo, etc) the google 160k activations a day, etc. Also I'm basic this off of info found from from the group doing the survey: <http://blogs.yankeegroup.com/2010/07/26/setting-the-record-straight-on-iphone-and-android/#more-4599>

True, although surveys all have their flaws with them as you aren't getting the whole but rather the part or small selection of the group.
[Nexus One General] xXJay_RXx:
only those three phones? come on! theres the EVO, Droid, Droid X, MyTouch Slide. if those great Android phones were included the numbers would be different.

**PS, it would be an Apple Fanboy idiot to write "iPhone 4" on his cheek from that picture :rolleyes:"
[Nexus One General] Purple Drama Llama:
You forgot the Motorola Droid. It was meant to be a "Google Experience phone.
[Nexus One General] Purple Drama Llama:
Those phones have extra UI's on them. Sense, Moto Blur (or Ninja Blur?), Espresso etc.
[Nexus One General] nexus5894:
@everyone

The numbers were wrong:

http://www.businessinsider.com/that...ay-theyll-buy-another-one-its-not-true-2010-7

The actual number is 70%:

"Indeed, a Nielsen survey from June says "80% of iPhone users want their next device to run iPhone OS while 70% of Android users want another Android device."

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/that-story-saying-that-only-20-of-android-owners-say-theyll-buy-another-one-its-not-true-2010-7#ixzz0v12muYgx"

It also says that 77% of iPhone users would buy another iPhone, so I guess that means 3% would get an iTouch or iPad.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] PUTALE:
just out of curiousity, I tested my phone wiht Sunspider benchmark and I got really really bad score.

I got around 132171.8ms.

This is terrible score considering that all other mobile phones are getting much higher score.

The test is done with mobile opera 9.5 and my wifi network.

Can someone else who got the phone or other winmo phone test their speed. Just want to know if it's just me or it's the phone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Miami_Son:
Sunspider is a Java test. If you're trying to test your internet speed, www.mobilespeedtest.com is a better way.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] PUTALE:
thanks for the reply. No, I was not trying to test the internet speed but rather the system performance. The score is so much lower than other handsets that I saw online. And it's not just a bit lower but big difference. So, I am just curious what's up with the phone. This may explain why tilt 2 is always so slow:(.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Miami_Son:
Java isn't used for much on the Tilt 2.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dik23:
Actually I firmly believe that the link you've provided provides bogus results and is just a way to make money from advertising, ie Web Hosting.

I know for sure that my network limits me to 384kbps, I have been arguing with them about it, but this site regularly shows my download speed to be far in excess of this.

I think you'll find http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?jisok=1&more=1 provides far more accurate results. Either that or tether to a real computer and use http://www.speedtest.net

Sorry, this isn't really related to the first post but it winds me up seeing all of these mobilespeedtest results in peoples sigs.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Miami_Son:
Not sure what you're talking about. The only ads I see are Google ads and these are random generated. I don't even look at the numbers instead preferring the comparison graphs to the different types of services. The biggest thing is it always works whereas DSL Reports tends to be flaky on a PPC or just to busy. On the PC, DSL Reports is my first choice.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dik23:
I have an ongoing dispute with my network where they have limited my down speed to 384kbps, or 3G when I have full bars HSDPA. A few years ago I'd be getting ~1500. My argument's their service is going backwards while theirs is they want more money from me for the faster speed. They also block port 21 which is annoying but I use sFTP to beat that.

Anyway my point is that they have admitted to me that the maximum bandwidth I can get with full HSDPA is 384kbps. dslreport has never given me a number above this whilst sometimes it's a little less, as you'd expect. mobilespeedtest gives me results all over the place, 300, 700, 3000 ...

These results cannot be correct. My network says that I am limited and I am. If I tether to my laptop and go to speedtest.net I get the same results as with dslreport. Laughably Speedtest.net sometimes gives my up speed faster than my down as the network obviously hasn't limited it.

I don't know what mobilespeedtest is trying to achieve but it's not, I think, measuring bandwidth.

Edit : The advert on mobilespeedtest is always for the same web hosting company - which is not your standard random Google Ad
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] day2die:
Is this the Samsung Taylor?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spencelk:
I've searched and searched for hours and apologize if I missed the page on the thread that talks about this but.....

I want damage control though its not playing nice with clockwork I get stuck in an endless boot loop. I've tried using Rom manager to flash ra recovery it says it works then when I go to boot into recovery it even asks if I want to boot into ra recovery HOWEVER, it doesn't.

I've tried using the terminal app to flash it and it says file not found.

I didn't get an errors during root I have flashed baked snacks fine so I can't see what the problem is. Rom manager says that it installs the new Rom successfully so any help that anyone can provide would be greatly appreciated.
[Captivate General] rob989_69:
I have searched high and low. I've found a number of references that say you can use paragon, doesn't work for me. I can't get Arconis to run cause I'm running windows 7 64 bit. Gparted boots to the disk but I get an error before I can get into the partitioning screen, clockworks mod seems to allow me to format but I don't see the ability to partition (the external anyway)

PLEASE help it's driving me nuts.
[Desire Accessories] raix:
Hi,

I'm thinking about getting a BT Keyboard like the Logitech Dinovo Mini or the Freedom Pro for use with my desire.

So far I've read that they probably won't work with the stock rom, because HTC implemented an old BT Stack in this Rom.

What about custom roms? Can anybody tell if keyboards like this work with those?

thanks!
[Desire Accessories] jbej:
you might have a chance with some apps:

search for KeyPro and BlueInput.

I havent had luck with my nokia su-8w yet (also a HID keyboard)
[myTouch 3G Slide Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kendogg41:
Hello all, I'm about to purchase a Mytouch Slide for use with AT&T, and wanted to make sure I wasn't going to have any issues with anything not working (GPS, SMS/MMS, etc.). I know I won't have AT&T 3G, only EDGE, but I can live with that. I searched but found very llittle on the subject, I'm assuming thats because both this handset, and this section of the forum, is fairly new.

Hopefully I'll be able to learn more about the handset in the next few weeks, and be abe to start helping others around here too. This appears to be a rather productive, professional forum. To that end, I'll say thanks in advance :)