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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
Hello SeeM,

Let me assure that my remarks aren't complaints (which will eventually start later :D ).

Up to now I noticed only a strange behaviour of Opera which hanged my system once when only 2 cards where opened (xda-devs forum only + mobile underground forum) and I tried to scroll/zoom. Even the hardware keys didn't work. A soft reset with a stylus was necessary.

Pocket Outlook was closed instantly in random moments (2 or 3 times up to now). I have only single e-mails in my inbox since I use only IMAP accounts and I don't synchronize "storage" folders to avoid downloading hundreds of e-mails to the device.

And I could not close SIM Manager (I opened it just to check something) neither by an X in the bottom right nor with ArkSwitch. I had to use fdc TM to terminate it. It didn't stop responding. It was just not closeable ;) I never use SIM Manager I only wanted to check it to answer somebody in another thread.

That's all so far. I will report any other issues if as soon as I'll notice them. Now it's time for some answers.

Well, in the moment I installed Skype Mobile, MobileGadu (a mobile version of a Polish text communicator), spb Wireless Monitor, Core Player, G-Watch, AutoMapa (a Polish car navigation software), Proximity Locker, MobiPocket e-book reader, Lumos (intelligent screen light controller) and... that's all.

I know this is quite a lot, but I use these apps for a long time with every ROM and I didn't see any interference so far.

Out of these tools there are 3 which stay in memory:

- HD2ProximityScreenOff - 4 kb

- WirelessSrv (from spb Wireless Monitor) - 1140 kb

- Lumos - 356 kb

I never seen none of these programs taking more memory over time...

Yep, I'm aware of all that. I wanted to point this out not complaining something is wrong but to let you compare experience from the user side. I used to change the PagePool of Jackos ROMs to 14 MB as I had the impression is worked just a bit smoother then.

On the other hand I never open more than 3-4 apps in the same time (usually Opera, Outlook, MobileGadu and system Settings) and as soon as the system doesn't force-close any of the apps, I will not complain. So far I had only 2 problems with closing/hanging which I described above. I can't blame the memory however as in both situations there were at least 30 MB still free.

Hah, I thought you forgot about that! Don't worry. Well handle it somehow. First I will try to use your ROM for some time without modding. Than I'll try to dump it and rebuild using similar packages I already created for Jackos ROMs. And when I have a set of working muis, we can try to share the data somehow.

I don't use WM Task at all. All my info comes from Fdc. I just restarted the device and the gwes.exe is indeed 25 MB. Sorry for that. I will monitor this however and report back as soon as I have something to report :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] husam666:
Happy new year boys :D

Edit: And girls :) if any :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
Awww... just noticed that I forgot to answer one of the questions:

Well for many weeks my favourite ROM was SkrobPRO - the one without HTC Messaging and with CHT 1.7.1. I woudn't be so dumb to compare Simplicity with SmartMOVE or SleekBASIC (TF3D 2.1 ROMs) :D

Anyways, the CHT 1.7.1 seems to be the best for Rhodium in terms of speed/functionality. The 1.8.5 was just too slow for me. And the 2.0.0 (so called final) is awesome but still too buggy...

Of course I also used SleekBASIC for a loong time, but I'm kind'a addicted to Sense 2.5. But CHT 1.7.1 seems the best compromise for my needs. Of course until CHT 2.0.0 will be finished.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mclaren520:
I'v tired many times to flash this rom,and try a lot of settings,at last I found it is,the best of the best rom of RHODIUM in the world even WM 6.1.

The fact is,this rom can't with out Arto's StartMenu remover (then quick menu below) and QuickMenu modded.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
I've actually been hearing problems with Opera from quite a few people. I tried doing something to fix it with this BETA but that doesn't seem to have worked. I think I'll try going all the way back to the version that was released with the Rhodium and see how that goes...

Hmmm, I haven't had this problem before... What were you doing when it closed? Reading emails/texts? Sending emails/texts? Send/recieving?

Lmao! I can't believe this is the first time I hear of this, it was probably like that since July when I first started with this :D. It's definitely a bug and I'll try and fix it!

Hmmm, well if you think about it the ROM is losing 40 MB's after long usage. I'm curious what other, more memory impressive ROMs (cough Jackos :)) ROMs lose over time. It might feel like less because they start with more memory anyways. I might be way off, this is just theory :). And it'll help me improve the ROM.

Thank you! I haven't had feedback like this for a while, I really need it :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
Ha! First bug spotted. It was AMeBa, and I'm pretty sure this isn't the first bug it presented, which is why I'm going to start cooking in uTask instead. You should try it :). It certainly solved this problem.

Oh and happy new years to all :D! I hope you enjoyed/enjoy your celebration!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Vladimyr:
first try... impressions

Recently got TP2 and looking for the stable and fast rom.

Tried a few and stopped on this one as having less bugs than the others ;)

But not everything is fine enough yet.

1. The new Manila and/or CHT are unstable.

Manila is not able to start from the first attempt, it needs from 2 to 5 ones

to load successfully. Sometimes device was freezing, but 1 or 2 times I managed

to launch the phone app with the hardware button, then pressed menu and

started task manager, and killed manila.exe. The phone revived after that.

2. If I start Comm Manager, then press bluetooth settings while BT is off,

if offers me to turn it on at first. If I press 'Yes', wait cursor is circling around

a couple of minutes, then message 'can not initialize bluetooth stack' is raised.

If I turn on bluetooth with the switch on the right before I go to its settings,

everything is working fine.

3. I love Cyberon Voice Commander (please don't mess with Voice Dialer), but

has been not able to make it working on this rom. I owned TP1 (Raphael) before,

and all was right with it. Speaking strictly, it works, but is not starting with

bluetooth headset button, which makes it almost useless. I know, it's using

OEMAGW.dll, which isn't included into this rom. Tried to add it, but no success.

p.s.: task29 was performed.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DeathmonkeyGTX:
I don't know why the hell I have issues with installing tarkim's keyboard remapper. This has happened before and I fixed it by HR and installing all the cabs that require a soft reset one-by-one and then installing all the other cabs, soft reset, and then get to the keyboard remapper and load the config. I flashed the beta, had that issue again, cursed the phone, and then installed the latest official since it worked flawlessly for over a month. It did the keyboard issue again. So, I'm going to sit down and get around to making a UC script today and flash the beta again.

I was going to send you money today seem, but I was driving my '91 Honda out in the country and the fuel injectors decided to **** themselves. I just finished replacing every other component of the fuel system, so it makes sense that the prescribed fuel pressure killed the nearly dead injectors within 24 hours of replacing the second to last component of the fuel system. $205 for the injectors + about half an hour so I'm broke again for some weeks :-(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Vladimyr:
I use it too, and it seems falls on conflict with ArkSwitch.

I disabled ArkSwitch and got much more stable device.

Manila is still restarting sometimes, but no more total freezes.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] binary_boy01:
HI mate,

After a soft reset, something changed, i guess detected my phone version and changed h/w keyboard auto. It;s all perfect now.

Thank you for all your hard work. ;)

Cheers,

binary_boy01
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
Well I just read it haha..

The long press end key probably just has a package that doesn't support landscape properly, so that's an easy fix :).

The SIP problem, I haven't had before. As I said earlier, I really recommend you to install uTask and disable the Ameba service. uTask is SO MUCH more responsive and way less buggy. I don't know if it's the new SYS build that I'm testing, uTask or just all in my head, but the ROM I cooked up yesterday feels a lot nicer to use. So try that and lemme know.

I'm using tmail.exe from a totally different build, for the threaded email. This could very likely be causing those problems of yours. I'll cook a test ROM and hopefully you could give it a shot :).

Opera, sigh.. I guess I'll be reverting to the one that came with Rhodium, upgrading doesn't seem to add much except random crashes.

About the SODs you've been getting, hopefully once it has to do with the other bugs and once those are fixed it'll disappear. If not, I'll try and fix it afterwards. tmail.exe usually stays open so it could be that...

Thanks again :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
You are patient Man! :D

I knew that! :D

OK, I just downloaded simplicity again, will reflash any moment (testing xda_uc by the way) and report back :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
Hahaha :) I'm not so sure if I am...

;)

I hope you didn't think I uploaded a new ROM? :o This is one I'm still working on, the uploaded ones are the november ones and then the december beta hidden somewhere in here...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Vladimyr:
I'm also curious how people can adjust their ring volume?

Volume control is set to simple mode on this rom and has

no slider for the ring volume... :rolleyes:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
No, no. I just had to re-download since previously I flashed using another computer far away.

BTW, I reflashed, HRed and... Opera switch-off and tmail SoD during first attempt to answer this post. I just received emails, clicked the link to this thread, logged in, clicked "quote" and then a new page started loading and Opera disappeared showing a part of the Outlook window and nothing else. I managed to run fdc and it showed tmail.exe taking whole CPU time. I couldn't kill it again.

But I restarted and now seemed to post the answer without problem. Strange...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bcampano:
Great ROM! Some Feedback

I've been using your ROMs for some time and think they are WAY better than any others out there! Thanks for all your hard work!

Just some comments/suggestions on your latest Dec 28 ROM (no CHT):

1. Bluetooth audio quality is not very good. I searched around on XDA and found a CAB which fixes the problem. I can't remember where I pulled it from but i've attached it if anyone is interested. Perhaps it can be cooked into future releases?

2. When sending an email/text, I can enter the first few letters of someone's name and the contact list filters and shows the person i'm looking for. However, I am forced to select the contact via the touchscreen and cannot simply hit enter like I can on other ROMs (such as energy, etc). If I hit enter with the correct contact highlighted, it pulls up my contact picker rather than selecting the correct contact.

3. How about a nicer taskbar? I've poked around and don't really have a preference but the boring old one is just that...boaring!

4. Opera occasionally gives me some problems on your latest ROM. Sorry but I can't be more specific than that because the problem is quite occasional and unpredictable but I have had to reset the phone a couple of times because Opera would stop actually loading pages and simply display a white screen.

5. I wish I could have "autocorrect" on my Tilt2 just like I used to have in the good old days of WM6.1. I'm not talking about T9 or anything like that but the feature that used to display a list of words which I could pick from and allow me to add words/abbreviations to my autocorrect text file which would then be automatically substituted as I type. I know there is a reg hack (compime.dll change) which will renable this but it comes with a lot of side effects unfortunately. If anyone has some other ideas?

6. How about adding a few more "button" configurations in addition to the Send Key assignments. I know there are reg hacks for the "PTT" button, send/end key hold, etc.

7. How about adding a long pres for CAPS function when typing on the physical keyboard? I have used MagiKB in the past but maybe there is a more integrated solution possible?

Anyhow...sorry for the long email but I hope you find some of this helpful.

Thanks again for your great ROM!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Mnementh666:
Not sure if this has been covered, but...

Only suggestions so far: Is there a way for the task bar (right term? top bar) to display more than one or two notification icons at once? ie. bluetooth connected + unread msg = triangle with a exclamation point. It'd be nice to have them all shown... or is that a WM thing?

Maybe it's just me :D

Arkswitch error's out on me when using Igo 8, so I have to disable it. Kinda seems redundant to me anyway... *shrug*

I haven't tried the beta yet... this last stable version is pure awesomeness for stability and resources.

Depending on the updates for the next stable release, I may or may not upgrade... :) It's working too well now, you've spoiled me Seem!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
What's really strange is that I don't get those crashes :( I actually wish I did, lol, that way it'd be easier to fix em... My opera is definitely unstable though, but not tmail. Also, lemme know how the XDA_UC testing goes, I actually need some testing on that, the 'to storage' part might be a little unstable.

I don't really use Bluetooth but if someone else could maybe vouch for this I wouldn't mind cooking it in :), just to be sure.

Definitely a problem, I'll look into it.

I like this taskbar :) Find me another really nice looking one and I'll cook it in, no problem.

Known issue, I'm experimenting with different Opera builds.

Well I've noticed that when I don't cook in the HTC ezinput package the older autocorrect is present. Unfortunately so is the older, extremely minute keyboard. If you don't mind that, perhaps you can find a way to disable ezinput. Maybe a reg entry.

Very good idea :) but what to add? Lol

Is it really that hard to press the symbol/fn key before shift? Lol... If someone finds a way I wouldn't mind cooking it in though.

Nah thanks a bunch for the feedback :)

I'm not actually sure, it annoys me as well, lol. I'll try and look for a fix, although fixing the bugs is my top priority.

Sorry, don't think I can help with that..

Once I get everything ironed out, I'm pretty sure you'll want to upgrade :)! Hah, I'm glad you like it :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
Seem, thanks for your hard work.

I'm trying to learn about cooking but all this knowledge overwhelms me a lot. So seems like I will keep on being a user/tester/claimer rather than a cook.

BTW did anybody experienced Sense 2.5 random self-restarts? I had this 2 times today. I didn't install any mods/tweaks (not even CHT).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bcampano:
No biggie...there are quite a few out there which can be added following a flash and everyone has their own preferences!

That was one of the side effects of the compime reg hack I noticed. There must be a way to remove ezinput and then add a keyboard cab after the fact. I have been searching on XDA for a long time and haven't found a solution though. Does anyone else have any ideas?

I agree the original WM screen keyboard is crap.

I know the PTT button can be mapped by adding a 40C5 key to HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Keys with a string "Name" set to "PTT". I've noticed in other ROMs there are other Send/End key hold settings available also but am not sure of the specific reg values to set.

No its not!!! But you know with all the demands of our day to day lives, saving 0.01 seconds per cap letter could add up over time and save some wear and tear on my poor thumbs in the process :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DeathmonkeyGTX:
Bcampano, use shift. That's the way HTC keyboards have been for as long as I can remember, and adding cabs like that is how one winds up with something like the Energy ROM. Get Tarkim's keyboard controller to remap the PTT button to 4 things like I did and remap whatever button you want for up to 4 different functions. It is epic. I will be pissed if there isn't something similar for the Desire Z or whatever good landscape qwerty slider goodness HTC is cooking up by the time I have $500 to buy a phone from Canada or Australia and unlock it because AT&T is retarded at device selection.

y0 seem

XDA_UC to storage didn't work, but I bet I fu*ked it up in places besides that. I put the cabs that require a soft reset (Tarkim's Keyboard Remapper, Jacko's speakerphone fix that he coaxed out of HTC, GPS mod driver 3.2, and the AT&T keyboard) into the "Manual" folder. It got to the first one (remapper), installed, restarted, and it installed but it didn't resume the installation of any other cabs.

If I can't use XDA-UC with soft resettin' cabs, that's fine but I have a couple other queries about it. There's 4 cabs I install to microSD, zero on root NAND and a handful on NAND\Programs. When I copypasta cabs into the Copy2Root folder, do they automatically go to NAND\Programs or do they just go to actual root? From the advice to stick stuff into \Windows, I guessed I should put them in Copy2Root\Programs and the WiMoSpeed config into \Windows\StartUp but UC didn't get that far because it seems like it went to XDA_UC\Manual first.

It sucks that opera is still bugging out. I use Opera for things Opera Mini 5.1 in C+ won't work for and I've always hated PIE. If you cook up a test rom with functional UC to storage, the being able to click enter when composing an email or sms to select the recipient, and stock Opera 9.7 I will flash it and tell you if it works or not. So far the 12/28 beta is fine. I had an issue with the taskbar blacking out that took 2 SR's to solve but that's about it. I haven't even tried Opera yet. It's at least as fast as the November official.

Also, about tmail.exe occasionally freaking out, it doesn't happen to me. It takes up a few hundred kB of RAM and I'm weird about RAM so I kill it when I'm done with it. OC'd to 787.x MHz with 118 MB of free RAM opens it up quickly enough for my taste. That's how I know the Opera Out of Memory errors are completely full of sh*t. The first thing I do when I flash is disable Sense, so I reap that RAM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
Well, at least if about Opera, I have to admit that the one Jackos chose to his ROMs have never failed me. It's 9.7 build 36032. I don't know if it's from stock ROM though...

It runs slower than the one in simplicity and doesn't have the zoom button/bar. But at least it never crashes. At least in 21887 ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
This can be set via the Manila Settings Tab -> Sound&Display -> Single Volume or with the following reg entry:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\VolumeOverlay]
"SimpleMode"=dword:00000000
"DefaultPage"=dword:00000000

SimpleMode = 1 is for single volume, and 0 is for double. DefaultPage = 0 is for System Volume as default, and 1 stands for Ringer Volume.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] genaldar:
Does setting the alarm from the home screen work on the new beta? And when you hook it up to activesync via USB does windows open that system folder automatically still?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Vladimyr:
Yes, I knew it. But you want to say that each user of this rom must do it? :confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
Erm you're not supposed to restart during UC lol... Manual is for programs that need manual interaction. If it needs a restart it's supposed to just tell the script. The script then remembers until everything is installed, and then still doesn't restart but offers you to restart. If the script was told to restart, the message box will say "Required" and not "Optional".

About Copy2Root, it just COPIES files to the root of your phone. It doesn't install .cab's.

Lastly, for to storage: Give it some time. Like up to 15 seconds. It should work.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
You sure it's not 36023? :?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
Simple mode adjusts both System and Ring volume at the same time, hence simple. I find it more comfortable that way, if you want it differently is it really that difficult to head over to the settings tab? :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
Well, I have this setting automatically changed in UC. So I didn't even noticed it's set to single...

Hah, now you killed me. 36032 is what I personally wrote in the description of the Polish version of Jackos. I could have made a typo though...

I could check it in the flat dump without flashing, but I don't know where to look for the opera version. Previously I copied the build from Help -> About Opera page. Jackos is not online now, so I can't ask him personally.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
I'm always online, remember that!

The build number is 36032.

36023 is the Opera build from Leo S ROM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
He's always watching, he never sleeps, he has his eyes everywhere :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
Haha. Well I think it was the build that was causing the problems. I've tried now with the Rhodium build and I haven't got any issues yet. I opened quite a lot of tabs on some image intensive sites. I'm gonna be trying 36032 since it's a lot newer though... Thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
You used a version from Omnia ROMs? Or you just enabled the zoom slider somehow in settings?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
Just a reg entry :)

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Opera\Defaults]

"ZoomSliderEnabled"=dword:00000001
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Just curious, doesn't the hardware slider do the job?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
It does, but the on screen one doesn't get in the way either. So no harm done, right?