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[Captivate General] asrrin29:
It's not touchwiz that is laggy. I love touchwiz and it's extremely responsive. Rather, it's the Samsung widgets that clutter 3 homscreens that are very processor intensive. Once you place them in the trash and replace them with other apps from the market the experience is far better.
[Captivate General] Sounds Good:
Interesting. Thanks for the link.
[Captivate General] V DidDy 210:
I'm coming from an iPhone (from what it sounds, i'm a more power user than you but I can offer insight)

the captivate has the advantage of having in house chip manufacturing, now while I have rooted and sideloaded and removed att bloat...before I did that all I did was remove the daily briefing widget (pretty useless imo) and I never experienced any slow down. I was used to waiting a bit with the 3gs so I was pretty happy with the experience.

If you're concerned about lag, don't. there really isn't any. it's perceived from when you hear you have a 1ghz phone that is as good as jesus. Everything even the fastest home computers have the occasional lag.

as for rooting, it really just allows you to have some more control over your phone. It's a stepping stone yes, kind of like a gateway drug into android tweaking. But if you can control yourself it'll allow you to simply remove the ATT apps that suck and use a nice and zippy touchwiz (which I actually really like) and because TW is very iphoneish, you should have a good time navigating.

but man lemme tell you, the browser is much better than iPhone. Flash is pretty awesome. The Screen is much much much! better than the 4's and it is bigger which I personally like. I think it hits the sweet spot between big and medium (I wanted a streak but it took way to long to come out, and i'm glad i didn't bite on an import).

The only two apps which are better on iPhone are facebook and MLB at Bat (at bat because of mlb.tv) otherwise the selection is nice on android, and the apps are very diverse.

I think you'd like it, but then again this is just my opinion. I'm more of the tinkerer anyways and I HAD to jailbreak my iPhone to enjoy it.

the captivate has some neat little tweaks that'll keep surprising you (I find new things every day)

choice is yours hope i could help
[Captivate General] lilo777:
I also got suspicious about Daily Briefing once I saw that it was updating AP news constantly. I disabled AP News but kept the weather and the stock quotes. In my observation those are not updated automatically (or very infrequently). I think this was enough. I am still thinking about junking entire widget though :D
[Captivate General] shawnchalfant:
Every piece of AS@ is different, just find the one that fits you best, if you know what I mean. Apple is great but equally the competition. Heck I had the HTC Aria before the Capt. It's was snappier and has a better UI I think, darn screen is just to small. My wife has the I4 and its cool too for what she uses it for.
[Captivate General] Sounds Good:
Okay... thanks, guys. :)
[Captivate General] accinfo:
I won't comment on regarding the operating system, but i'll tell you why pick Captivate.

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Let's just say, SGS currently offers nearly everything at the top of the market.

BUT, it would NOT be future proof. Technology advances regardless of any economical drawbacks, there WILL be better phones out there in the future.

Screen - debatable with iPhone4's screen

iPhone4 Retina Display vs. Galaxy S Super Amoled

CPU/GPU - YES YES YES. THREE times the speed of today's smartphone.

Coolermaster

Hummingbird vs. Snapdragon: The 1 GHz Smartphone Showdown

OS - Debatable so i wouldn't want to get into this. (but might i add this? the community behind android, let alone other OS, has an advantage of being futuristic-proof because of the regular tweets and mods)

Camera - 5mp, pretty darn low comparatively to other smartphones but it's adequate/satisfying after seeing the vids/pics

For me, I would certainly pick SGS. This is a bad place to ask for our opinon, it's a SGS dedicated section! (Trust me, you won't regret it. The screen is the dealbreaker)

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AT&T 16gb, No FFC, No flash, gyroscope

Tmobile 16gb, No FFC, No flash, gyroscope

Verizon 2gb, No FFC NOT SURE, flash, gyroscope, Wi-fi Hotspot supported

Sprint 1gb, Yes FFC NOT SURE, Flash, gyroscope, Keyboard, wi-fi hotspot supported

International 8/16gb, FFC, no Flash, gyroscope (not sure)

Captivate has metal battery door.

Nice sliding usb port.

Cool push down opening of the battery door.

better look, in my opinion

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Anything else you're wondering?
[Captivate General] jekyoo_style:
Seeing as how this is XDA, I'm not surprised everyone is siding with Android/SGS. I'm going to sled a little light on the iPhone since it has yet to be mentioned at all.

Did everyone forget about jailbreaking for the iPhone? The iPhone is just as customizable through jailbreaking as rooting is to Android. People are talking about how the apps are restricted but there is also Cydia and Cydia is freaking amazing.

I definitely recommend you to try and experience both. Reading up on how something is can only go so far. Having personal experience will give you A LOT of insight on how much devices are and which 1 best suits you. Go to AT&T, address the debate that you're having with them and I'm sure they'll gladly arrange something where you can try both devices for X amount of days.
[Captivate General] TexUs:
Probably best to stay with iPhone if you don't have a reason to switch.

That said, jailbreaking on the iPhone isn't anywhere near the same thing as rooting the Android.

IE, iPhone users have been waiting a long time now for the iOS4 jailbreak, Captivate users had a root before it ever came out.

Captivate is as simple as putting a zip file on the device, rebooting the phone and applying it. EASY. Not near as involved as jailbreaking the iPhone.
[Captivate General] jekyoo_style:
iOS4 is already jailbreakable for the 3G/3GS. The problem now is the release of the jailbreak for the iPhone 4.

Even though the Captivate is rooted, we can barely do anything to it since barely anything is compatible. BUT, once the jailbreak is out for the iPhone 4, everyone that was available on the 2G/3G/3GS will be available for the iPhone.

Overall, the time frame is the same.

Captivate: Rooted before release date, 1-2 months for a custom rom to come out.

iPhone 4: jailbreak released in 5-6 weeks, instant customizing.

Have you had an iPhone to say that jailbreaking is "involved"? All the recent jailbreaks for the iPhone have been easier than rooting for Android devices. Both are easy but the iPhone is EASIER. All you have to do is plug in the device and click a button, is that harder than rooting? No.

http://iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=9201&laid=

yes, it is very "involved".
[Captivate General] tysj:
Requiring a Mac was enough involvement for me when I had to unlock/jailbreak my old iPhone :P. Luckily my gf had a macbook pro.

Anywho, here's a decent comparison between the two phones. Unfortunately, the reviewer was using OS X so the compatibility part is a bit skewed. Very good points, however.

http://www.tipb.com/2010/07/26/iphone-4-vs-android-captivate/
[Captivate General] jekyoo_style:
unlocking/jailbreaking an iphone has never required a mac. i've had every iphone since release and i'm a windows users. jailbreaks and unlocks have always been available for both windows and mac.
[Captivate General] tysj:
Well at the time, the only jailbreak/unlock that worked with the firmware was only available on a mac. I'm sure a windows compatible version released weeks after, but it usually comes out for macs first, doesn't it?

*Don't want to start a debate :), just something I came across when I had my iPhone*
[Captivate General] TexUs:
Not true at all.

The newer 3GS bootroms still haven't been cracked and neither has the 4.

The official iOS4 jailbreak has also not been released, either. It's been done but not released to the masses. So here we are going on more than a month and iPhone users are still sitting on their hands.

??????? Last I checked the Android system was a quickly rising platform that causes Apple CEO's to go on tirades...

The Galaxy S had a custom ROM the first week, try again.

The reason (I'd suspect) we don't have one ported to the Captivate right now is that since Samsung is releasing 2.2, not a huge reason for devs to release a ROM as quickly as they did for the Galaxy S when they didn't know that would happen. Also, the lack of a dev community on ATT at this point is a big blow. This is ATT's first real Android device.

Jailbreak not released yet.

http://ih8sn0w.com/index.php/welcome.snow

The "other" version floating around (the one that's not official) is a real mess to deal with, too. Enough so that many of my iPhone buddies (the ones that haven't switched over, anyway) that jailbreak their devices didn't even want to mess with it yet.

:rolleyes:

Any iPad, iPhone, or iPod touch on firmware 3.1.2, 3.1.3, or 3.2 (not 3.2.1).
[Captivate General] Pirateghost:
yeah i would love to know where this magical iOS4 on 3gs jailbreak is. my wife is waiting for my old 3gs...(she is on t-mo). i have been trying to hunt down a working jailbreak for iOS4/3gs for over a week now....
[Captivate General] jekyoo_style:
Uhhhh you literally repeated what I said and clearly I'm right. The new 3GS bootrom and iPhone 4 have been jailbroken, what people are waiting for now is the release of the gui. That's what I just said.

To say that Android is "quickly a rising platform" means that it's below right now. When I said barely anything is compatible, I meant unapproved apps installed into the Captivate. Out the gate, barely anything is available.

And how many people are on that custom ROM? barely any. Any excuse you give is irrelevant. It will still take 1-2 months for a good custom rom to come out (referring to CyanogenMod). It's like you stating how the jailbreak is taking along time to come out. I can say the same excuses why but that doesn't matter, it's still not out.

iPhone 4 was released on June 24th and today is the 27 of July. Like I said, jailbreak released in 5-6 weeks (from initial launch date). Also PwnageTool is not complicated. Download or make your own custom firmware, restore, install.

You're point? The original argument is that stated was that,"Captivate is as simple as putting a zip file on the device, rebooting the phone and applying it. EASY. Not near as involved as jailbreaking the iPhone." That link is to show you how EASY it is and it will exactly be that easy when a jailbreak is released for the iPhone 4.

Stick to context because your arguments are jumpy.
[Captivate General] jekyoo_style:
well you're 1 of those stupid people that the dev team hates. the people that constantly upgrade to vanilla firmwares and then ***** when the jailbreak is coming out. why would you update and then look for a jailbreak when it's been beaten to death that you shouldn't upgrade to 4.0 out the gate.
[Captivate General] TexUs:
+1 to the iggy list.
[Captivate General] outz:
the jailbreak is out there for the 3gs... mine works great, look harder (or check any jailbreaking iphone forum) also, don't get upgrade happy if you really rely on a jailbreak or unlock.
[Captivate General] V DidDy 210:
I'll add to this, first off only ONCE did the jailbreak require a mac before it was released for windows (I think it was 2.2??) Lets clear that up.

Secondly, the jailbreak, while is not hard also requires some diligence in itself. adding excess apps does indeed slow down the phone (the internal hdd is partition as such that apps and system page and cache are on the same partition (about 101mb) while the system definitely allows app overflow onto the media partition, it will choke hold to try and keep as much of the app data on the /var/system partition

I think the jailbreak is pretty much the most essential thing for an iPhone or iPad. People who tell you the risks outweigh the benefits are lying through their teeth (a friend of mine who is an apple ludite). There is nary any risk in jailbreaking with the end user product because simply, the Dev team has done all the dirty work for you. If you regularly back up (and you should right before you jailbreak anyways) then should you encounter any errors you simply restore. Backgrounder, LocationSpoof and SBsettings are essential to a nice user experience. Even with basic multitasking, pandora STILL doesn't run properly in the background...

As for the release of the iPhone 4 jailbreak, i haven't keep track so unless it was released a few days ago (the 24th as mentioned above) I haven't heard of one released yet, and I assume that if it had all the tech sites would have covered it by now..

As for the Android below iOS comment, I don't think so...I mean to each there own but I would put them both at a level playing field in their own distinct categories.

iOS is nice and simple and will do what you want it to do, so long as jobs or the dev team have decreed you can

Android is (IMO) not much more confusing, but has the advantage of true multitasking and a developer base that isn't rooted around one group of 6 guys. There are a few things that REQUIRE root, but by and large most great apps are either on the market place or easily sideloaded sans root.

What I think it comes down to is a) how much have you invested, money wise, into either system and b) are you happy with your current experience

I'm a little different in that while I invested a good chunk into iOS I still left because I wasn't as satisfied as I was 2 years ago and because I'm forever curious and the idea of using my skills to customize a phone to my exact liking (much like my computers at home) really appealed to me. That and a 4in SAMOLED screen was too hard to turn down, the iPhone is denser but smaller, I don't care what people say Bigger is Better
[Captivate General] Pirateghost:
i appreciate you calling me stupid. its mature.

i have had 2 iphones, a 3g and a 3gs. they were both jailbroken. i upgraded my 3gs to ios4 from a jailbreak 3.13 because i was considering going to an iphone4. i decided against the iphone4 and went with the captivate. now that you know i am not some f*!^ing moron like you think i am, i can let you in on a little secret. i dont ***** about the dev team not releasing updates. i ***** about douchebags like you who think you are big pimpin on the internet. go upstairs and have mommy make you a nice cup of warm milk to calm your nerves.

my wife simply wanted my 3gs because she knows its faster than her 3g. i didnt upgrade thinking that i was going to jailbreak it around the corner, because the plan was to stay with iphone and get a 4th gen.

there ya go. i am not stupid and i dont ***** about the dev teams not releasing a jailbreak. +2 me 0 you

got anything else constructive to add to this discussion or should i just go ahead and ignore you now before you have an aneurysm from all your coolness?
[Captivate General] jekyoo_style:
101mb root partition size? Is this during the 2G era?

Since the 3G, you were able to change the root partition of the iPhone via PwnageTool. Limited partition size has not been a problem since 2008.

I never said the jailbreak was released. I said 5-6 weeks from release date. It has NOT been 5-6 weeks yet.

I was just being a **** to TexUs and using his wording against him. I love my Captivate and iPhone. I just hate pure Android fanboys who give zero credit to iOS.

There is a learning curve for both. As long as you do your research, both are easy enough to learn.

Android has a lot of dev teams because each device is different. For iOS, theres only 3 devices and all 3 are practically identical when it comes to jailbreaking. There's about 30 people in the dev team but 2-3 are the known faces of it. Comex and GeoHot are 2 people that have worked on their own to achieve jailbreaking. Def others out there.

In the end, it's personal preference.
[Captivate General] jekyoo_style:
awwww you hurt my feelings by adding me to the ignore list :(
[Captivate General] Pirateghost:
got a problem with me? take it up in a ****ing pm, because calling me stupid when you dont even know me....well, that makes you a ****ing idiot.
[Captivate General] TexUs:
Just add him to the iggy list. I'm blissfully unaware of anything he said ;)
[Captivate General] mrdecibel:
For the past couple of weeks I have been using the iPhone 4, the Nexus One and the Captivate. I am still not sure what route I plan on taking, but here is my data.

Phone functionality (voice, text, alerts): Nexus One due to its trackball notification. Captivate 2nd, iPhone 4 last.

Notes: Clear case of Android OS winning hands-down to iOS4.

Screen: iPhone 4 due to lack of visible pixels and crisper graphics/fonts and better sun visibility. Captivate 2nd, Nexus last.

Notes: Nexus one not usable in bright sunlight.

Music: iPhone due to overall better sounding and louder music delivery coupled with good music management UI. Captivate 2nd, Nexus last.

Notes: iOS4 is a better choice for music delivery than Android. HTC and Samsung are far better than stock Android.

Photos: Nexus and iPhone 4 tie for 1st. Captivate last. (lack of flash hurts captivate.)

Notes: I took comparison pictures between all three phones and had them developed. The Nexus one is more neutral in colors where the iPhone 4 and Captivate applied a bit too much saturation. In a 4x6 print, there were very little differences to the normal eye. The Captivate has the best camera controls I have seen on a mobile device. The panoramic mode is excellent.

Videos: iPhone 4 winning due to overall better video and touch to focus while recording. Captivate 2nd, Nexus last.

Browsing: Nexus wins due to Adobe Flash. Captivate 2nd, iPhone last.

Notes: Android's ability to auto-fit content makes web browsing on a smaller screen a lot better. Small text is very easy to read on the iPhone's display.

Social media (Facebook): Iphone 4 due to its top notch Facebook app with notifications.

Notes: Android's Facebook widget is a joke.

Phone Responsiveness: iPhone 4 in first place with a snappy overall experience. Nexus in 2nd, and Captivate last.

Captivate:

Pros: Display has better blacks and whites than any other device. This does not however make the phone more useful in any way for me. Has decent outdoor visibility. Has the best music player of any Android device. Camera controls are excellent. Panoramic and self timer are great. Very lightweight phone for its size.

Cons: No flash/light for camera or Video. No LED notifications. No front-facing camera. No cursory navigation (trackball or other software based cursor placement). Poor power button placement. Stuttering OS experience. Poor sound on speaker, tinny sounding.

Hope this helps.

Chris
[Captivate General] Sounds Good:
Well guys, time to finish up this thread -- looks like I'm gonna go with the iPhone 4.

For those that are in the same boat, here are some of my overall decision-making considerations:

* Battery life. iPhone 4 has more. (important to me)

* Better camera pics from iPhone 4. (important to me)

* Camera flash on iPhone 4. (somewhat important to me)

* Crisper text on iPhone 4 (I'm more concerned with text than pics or videos).

* Captivate might need more expensive data plan due to more updates from widgets, etc.

* MS Outlook contacts are apparently easier to sync on iPhone 4.

* Might not be any copy and paste in email on Captivate (if true, I can't do my job).

* I don't feel like I should have to tinker with my phone to make it right, but I might have to for the absolute best Captivate experience.

* Reported lag on Captivate unless phone is rooted (which I'd rather not do).

* Captivate was not as intuitive for me when I played with it. Iphone 4 was easier for me to figure out how to do what I needed to do.

There was one thing that kept bringing me back to the Captivate: The 4" screen. Loved it. But other than that, the list above overruled.

And now... Let the bashing begin.... ;)
[Captivate General] bpuryear:
Battery Life?

I'm a current iPhone 4 user who has broken the Reality Distortion Field and is looking to make the jump to Android.

I'm heavily interested in the Galaxy S, but my only concern is battery life. I keep seeing people saying the iPhone's battery life is leaps and bounds ahead of the Galaxy S. This is my only concern about making the switch.

I just want to assure that I won't have a dead phone by the end of the day. I've never fallen below 20% (Nearly always around 35-45%) with my iPhone 4 at the end of the day and I usually charge it every night, so overnight battery drain is of no concern to me.

Will I have any problem with the Galaxy S's battery life? I'd say I have moderate usage most days. (1.5 hrs Streaming Pandora, 2.5+ hours absent minded Web Browsing...as I tend to just leave the screen open to glance at, lots of Text Messaging and a few Voice Calls)

My "usage" on the phone at the end of the day is nearly always 5+ hours.

Thanks for the help!
[Captivate General] TexUs:
You always have 30 days to try...
[Captivate General] max_warheads:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPhone#Models states the battery of the iPhone 4 at 3.7V 1400mAh, vs Captivates 3.7V 1000mAh according to FCC
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SiNJiN76:
Uhm...i dont have the arrows at the bottom of my map to easily cycle through the multiple search results. Was it taken out? Do i need to enable it (can see options/layers/labs)?

:confused::confused::confused:
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mattb3:
I am missing this as well. As a slightly less useful alternative, you can swipe left or right on the "detail" screen after clicking into one of search results to rotate through the results.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
I was just looking for this too. Did they take it out? It's not there anymore when you do a search. How else are you supposed to scroll thru results? Seems like a very stupid thing to remove.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SiNJiN76:
Cool. Thanks for the tip. Sucks that they took our the arrows...would rather have had them remove the zoom buttons!
[myTouch 3G Slide General] migueltherocker:
Now, this is confusing me. Take the battery cover of your phone, and look at the bottom right corner. Where the other corners have screws, on this corner there's a small little black circle that says VOID in white letters. Is this a moisture detector? For warranty exchanges and such? Because honestly, I've never gotten my phone wet. I was at a rock concert yesterday and I did notice sweat dripping onto my phone screen when I would look at it but I don't think this was enough to set off moisture detectors? specially if I wiped it off before it even got internally into the phone..
[myTouch 3G Slide General] barmanham:
my guess is its so they know you didnt unscrew the phone and open it
[myTouch 3G Slide General] migueltherocker:
Can you do me a favor and check if yours says it too? I really need to get this sorted out. I need to know how much trouble I'm in if anything happens to my phone.
[myTouch 3G Slide General] jriv:
It is there incase you take apart the phone its on all the htc phones

Sent from the phone that all the chicks love
[myTouch 3G Slide General] em2drvr03:
mine and my girlfriends dont have that void sticker on ours
[myTouch 3G Slide General] migueltherocker:
Oh f*ck me. Thanks man.
[myTouch 3G Slide General] turboyo:
They all have it. What it means is your warranty is void if that sticker is off, only reason for it to be off is if you took it off to remove the screw to take apart the phone. The moisture detectors are white and turn pink when wet.
[myTouch 3G Slide General] shadowmike:
not only does every slide have it but every electronic device. sony psp's have them the g1 the mytouch the sony xperia.

its a tamper seal. only broke when taking apart the device (voids warrenty)

the white circle stickers UNDER the battery and INSIDE the phone as said are the water detector

you can buy both stickers on ebay if you really need to fix your device (broken screen) and return it for a new or reman
[myTouch 3G Slide General] migueltherocker:
Yeah, thanks guys :) my last phone had it, and it was a sidekick LX that I had gotten wet, and I figured it's VOID sticker was a moisture detector somehow.