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[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oblivion0:
I used to think like the OP until I rooted and installed Damage Control; since doing so my battery life has tripled.

Like most other posters in this thread, you need to take some time vetting your frustrations with battery life and understanding how Android works, and how to turn your Evo into a beast.

If you're not ready for that commitment, then get an a Motorola or Samsung 'Droid device...I've found their stock builds tend to fare better on battery life, and generally don't require conditioning their batteries.

If you're dead-set on an iPhone, then go for it - but in my humble opinion you're only going to be losing out by joining the iSheeple.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blu3g:
When doing that, make sure that it is done when you've used a large part of the battery and have been off the charger for a few hours. Doing it when you just rebooted or just took it off the charger is not going tell us anything. So the next time you use your phone and the battery runs down, check that before shutting it off or putting it on the charger and tell us what it says.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] okolowicz:
Personally I think he should sell the EVO and buy the iPhone.

I'm completely tired of the attitude and tone of the "If you don't help me I'm getting rid of my Android and never coming back" people. I don't own any shares of stock in HTC or Sprint and couldn't care less he gets rid of it. XDA will not be worse off if these types of people leave.

Personally, I had the first 3 iPhones and now have an EVO. I love the EVO and don't see myself going back to an iPhone. But, that's just me. I'm crazy like that. The iPhone is perfect just as the OP implied. And, the sooner he gets one the sooner he'll be basking in smartphone nirvana.

~B

PS. It's easy for the iPhone to get such great battery life since it barely makes calls. Unfortunately, this fact negated its usefulness to me.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cnstarz:
the iphone sucks
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mjz147:
why are all of you saying every phone has its fault.

I like this phone,

THE PHONE IS NOT GOING INTO SLEEP MODE!!!!

That is the problem of the battery, the fact is that something on the phone whether it be app or setting is making the phone stay on 100% and there for drain the battery, That is a serious problem that needs to be fixed by android or the developer of whatever the app is.

For your average android consumer- someone who doesn't even know what xda developers is, should not have to mess around and install a custom rom in order for their phone to work properly.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mjz147:
and when I dial the number *#*#4636#*#*

and go down to battery history

Other usage- Running is 100.00%

screen on is 20.0%

Partial wake usage

Android system

facebook

were the first two, both with a small amount of blue indicating how much usage, id say 1/40 of the whole box
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mjz147:
And it seems that 80% of the people who responded to this thread have not helped at all.

I know this website is dedicated to android development and helping andorid users, and it does a great job doing that. But many people on here seem to be wasting space instead of trying to help this problem.

I know none of you have to help me, but instead of telling me that every phone has its problem, someone who knows what they are doing, please tell me what to do to fix my bettery.

Phone has been on for 14 hours, still on 100% awake time

Battery use(what has been using the battery, under about phone in settings)

Cell standby 31%

time on-1 h 24 m 31s

time without a signal 0s

phone idle 28%

time on- 1h 12 m 16 s

android system 26%

CPU total- 1 m 53 s

CPU foreground 27s

data sent 4.28 KB

data recieved 7.01 KB

Included packages:

network location

settings storage

HTC widget download manager

HTC function test program 1.00g

Account and sync settings

HTC checkin service

Sync feeds

android system

Accounts and sync

brcm bluetooth services

setup

settings

rosie utility

checki service

vpn services

Android system 26%

Same results as above- cpu details and included packages are exact same as above

Display- 7%

time on 12m 14s

Voice calls- 6%

time on 1m 23s

internet- 2%

cpu total 1m 21s

CPU foreground 1m 20s

Data sent 191.36 KB

data recieved 2.19 MB
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] weezer562:
Do what you want imo
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lzlaxhacker:
Well, you don't need to install a custom rom for it to work properly. It certainly works much better with one, but isn't even close to necessary. My dad has a stock evo and his battery life is just fine, with heavy use.

Honestly though, I'd say go buy an iPhone...it seems like it would suit you better...just be prepared to put a case on it if you want to make phone calls.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mjz147:
I know I don't need to install a custom rom for it to work properly but 9 out of 10 people are telling me this in the thread..

I have a stock EVO and my battery life is not fine. in fact it is on 100% of the time.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bielinsk:
Reset it to defaults. And use it like that. Don't install tons of apps and or widgets, and then see how your battery life is.

Sounds like you have a program screwing things up, or you are in terrible service area.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vroomazoom:
WAAH WAAH!!

I don't get it. You are complaining that the phone doesn't do what you want, and that you shouldn't have to root it.

But you can root it. Its easy. You could easily solve your own problem instead of whining like a small child. Who cares if most people won't root their phone? You can either root it or keep complaining.

It looks like you are enjoying the complaining far more than you would enjoy a phone that does what you want.

Thats fine. People have strange hobbies. I fully support your very odd form of entertainment.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slayer69:
I say go get an iPhone. You don't understand how android OS works anyways. The task killer will cause you more problems then ever. Just a bad idea. So if your not going to take the time to figure out that you are causing your own problems by installing apps that cause more harm then helping then you don't deserve to own a phone with this much power. You should go get a crappy phone or something that just makes phone calls and doesn't require you to think. Its stupid that you would post saying to help me or I go to the iPhone. Go get your iPhone, I could care less.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mjz147:
dude, shutup.

I am complaining that my phone is staying on 100%, their is something wrong with the phone, its not doing something that I don't want its not working correctly.

You have not contributed to this thread at all, the fact is you have no idea how to fix it, so by calling me a child you think you will rally up a few more people on here to agree with you and tell me to root my phone, instead of just admitting that you have no idea whats wrong with it, and that their is something wrong with it.

I have tried the rooting process, on every method, and when i put the PC36.img thing on my phone and hold down vol down and power it tells me main version is older, that has happend on every version I have downloaded and every root method I have used I have gotten a problem from and I am following the directions exactly
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lzlaxhacker:
Telling people to shut up isn't going to get you any help. It is probably some stupid app you installed that is causing all your problems. The fault here is 100% yours, so either a)factory reset your phone and don't screw it up this time or b)go out and get an iPhone...again, I think it will suit you better.

either way, stop whining, or I'll be forced to call a whambulance.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mjz147:
I use a task killer on one or two apps that I want to restart I know I am not supposed to use.

" I don't deserve a phone with much power" WHO ARE YOU KIDDING?

It's a phone!!

I downloaded a few apps that I like and some of them or some setting on my phone is keeping it awake at 100%

Ya your right i should go get a phone that requires me to think, give me a break its people like you that say all this crap about android being so smart and so advanced that you are worse than iPhone fanboys.

I Think android is a great OS, but if it allows an app or a setting to keep the phone on at 100% without automatically shutting the app, their is a problem, especially when I have all settings/syncing things off that would drain the phones battery.

Once again another person that has no idea how to fix it is wasting time and space in this thread.

If you don't care so much about this thread you wouldn't have posted a paragraph statement saying how mighty the android OS and anyone that is complaining about it is a mindless idiot who doesn't deserve such a powerful phone, and should go get a flip phone.

Its a phone for god sake, I am having a problem with it and just trying to find a solution.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vroomazoom:
I didn't call you a child. I said you were whining like a child.

That rooting method isn't working because you are using an older rooting method on a phone that already has the most recent update. Quite simply stated: You are doing it wrong.

Your tone is ridiculous. NO ONE ON HERE OWES YOU ANYTHING. You are not polite, but instead abrasive and demanding that others fix your problem.

Many people have many problems and get quick solutions on here. You are acting like a small child and people are treating you as such. But please! Continue getting angry! I don't get the appeal, but I support you. To each their own.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mjz147:
Are you really trying to argue???

If you read a post earlier on the thread I clearly said " I know no one has to help me on here" but people are putting a bunch of stuff that is not helping at all.

You clearly have no help in this thread, if you or anyone else doesn't have a solution or fix, telling the OP he is whining like a child is not helping anyone out.

You don't know how to help fix this problem, but for some reason you want to continue posting in it.

when have I demanded a solution from anyone?

WHy don't you read through the thread, I gave an extremely well detailed post to start this thing out, and I got about 4 pages of people telling me that rooting solves the problem, I know I had a rooted Hero, but really don't need a rooted phone right now.

I appreciate people telling me how I can improve my phone but it seems that if no one has a solution on how to fix a problem, they just post things

Now the purpose of this thread was to possibly find a fix or an app that is causing the problem, because guess what

I know I can factory reset, but its going to take me an hour to get my settings, email, and all of my apps back up, and the problem of having a full awake time might come back.

SO I figured I will try posting it on this website to save myself some time, but haven't gotten the help I was looking for, thats it.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mjz147:
TO this person, Thank you.

He has actually asked me to do something, that could help my phone.

I did it wrong the first time,

but then fixed it and added all the correct data, so it should be in the 6th or 7th page.

Hope to hear back, because of their is an app or a setting somewhere is keeping the phone at 100% and draining people's battery I am people would like to know.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slayer69:
I posted because making a statement like help me or I get an iPhone is just wrong. If you had got on here and said I have searched and just can't seem to figure out whats wrong then maybe people would be more inclined to help you. This OS is young and does a lot that other phone OS's can't. So the future of the OS is strong. I gave you a hint as to what your problem is and you still can't see it. You only took it as I was attacking you. Which I was because your post is stupid. Just having a task killer installed and not using it can still f up the phone. Had you done your research you would find that out. Android is not windows. The apps "running" in the back ground are not "Running" like you think. They are not even using any CPU time. I was one that also killed apps. But guess what. I did some searching and found out you don't need it. I flashed back to stock, never installed one, and my life with android got so much better. If you want to go further and get even more life out of your battery then root and get Damage control or Fresh roms. Both will give you much greater battery life. There I hope you are happy with the suggestions I have given you, next time think before you post something and do some homework and try to figure it out instead of waisting disk space with a pointless thread. What I have recommended I have seen other members tell you the same thing and it seems your bent on not letting go of a task killer. If you knew anything about your issue you would have figured this out.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonathaflores:
xda-developers its for rooted and android users,

anyways do all of us a favor and go get an iphone plz!!

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[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] redrazr7791:
Or they can get the stickers and put them onto their iPhones ;)

Seriously though, OP...with an attitude of "fix me now or I will leave!", most people here are going to get upset and flame you. 7 pages of back and forth arguing isn't helping.

You have been given possible options of what to do about your battery situation. Instead of fighting against what people are telling you, why not just try easier options like deleting apps, widgets or messing with the settings? If that doesn't work, try a Hard Reset to factory and star fresh? If push comes to shove, ROOT the d@mn thing.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] manooti:
im just going to throw this out there cuz i feel bad for the kid.

a lot of people dont use task killer and have a logical reason. in this case though i would say to install it and let it kill everything. set it on auto kill too. do some tests, open up browsers, calendars, widgets.. whatever. then turn off the screen (not the phone) and see, if over time, the up time and awake time are still the same or different.

my theory is if this works then the app killing your battery by keeping the phone on all the time will be shut down. by that time you will know if its an app or user related faults. if its the app then all you can do really is go through each one and make sure the settings are set right. if its user related, no one would be able to help you with that lol

gl
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vroomazoom:
When have you demanded anything? I will start at the beginning of the thread and stop when I get to your first demand:

"HELP me before I switch to an iPhone"

Not really a "Where's Waldo" of hunting tasks...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jmlott:
Is this a joke?

Several people have tried to help you. You simply aren't listening. You are being hyper-aggressive in a thread that has troll written all over the title. That is why you are getting flamed. You would find 100% of people on this forum willing to help anyone with an inkling of a positive attitude.

As shown in quote #1 above, you obviously attempted to root, but weren't technically skilled enough to accomplish that goal. Then, conveniently in quote #2, you decided you didnt need a rooted phone... Which is technically true, but if it will solve your problem (and it will), then it's probably a good idea. If you root and install a rom with powertop, I'd bet you could see what the problem is pretty easily.

And even if you are really against rooting, there was another good idea that you bashed down with your laziness in quote #3. You are correct, it is a rogue app or misconfigured setting that is causing your grief. Wiping the phone and starting over is a very good way to troubleshoot that issue. The only way to figure out what is causing it is to reinstall your apps one at a time and test until you find the culprit. If you are too lazy to do that, you only have yourself to blame for poor battery life.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] themyst:
As a former Android/EVO user, it's safe to say that the OP is probably considered the typical Smartphone customer or perhaps even one that might be a bit more educated than the rest; he did make attempts to correct the problem himself and offer details on what he already tried.

Granted for most of the enthusiasts on this board, tweaking, flashing and getting that last ounce of performance is gratifying in a way, but for most other people, it's a huge nuisance.

I came here for weeks on end patiently awaiting a fix for the 30fps issue, as the phone's user experience was not much better than the Hero I upgraded from in stock form. I experienced other nuances with the device as well; force closes, incompatibility issues, games being virtually unplayable and various hardware issues cropping up. I was not about to get suckered into yet another shoddy HTC device. I came from a Sprint Touch Pro, upgraded to a HTC Hero, and I was not about to get suckered again by HTC. I returned mine within 30 days and did the unthinkable, I got an iPhone 4.

The reason why the iPhone 4 is so popular? It just works. Click on icon, load app. press home button, back to home screen. double click home button, you can multi-task. There are no tweaks, custom ROMs, or compatibility issues to contend with. For someone like the OP, (90% of the population) this is the best phone.

A few quirks of iOS4 needed some getting-used-to and personally I wanted to protect my $300 investment for resale value purposes and got a case before the phone was delivered. Heck even when I wanted to make the bars drop, didn't happen after attempting to death grip with the case OFF. I live in NYC and everyone knows the issues we have with service out here, along with my cousin saying how horrible AT&T is. Personally I have dropped one call in the three weeks I had the phone and data speeds are 3x faster than Sprint's EV-DO rev. A performance in both directions.

I have been lurking around these parts since 2008 and appreciated everyone's contributions to making our HTC devices better! However, perhaps the OP is not the best at conveying his opinion to fans of HTC Android devices, but I can attest to how he feels. After two years of contending with the same, I moved on from Android. I will miss Sprint though!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pseudoremora:
The 30fps issue has been fixed for the most part, HTC even released a comment on it. The Hero was excellent device, it did have issues, but nothing that couldn't be fixed easily by reading and doing a little searching. I'm happy you got yourself an iPhone.

I've never seen such a more untrue statement in my life. "It just works?"... last I checked that only applied to phones that can actually do the most basic function a phone is programmed to do. Make calls and hold a signal for longer than 15 seconds. This issue has be reproduced by the top technology companies (CNET, BGR, Engadget, GizMo, etc) numerous times, yet Apple and Steve Jobs especially ignore it and decide instead to point the blame at AT&T or say other phones do the same thing?

You're definitely the first I've heard even mention any positive feedback in regards to either the signal or AT&T's data speeds.

I'd personally like to see the OP switch over to the iPhone. Don't "threaten" to leave and get a iPhone, if you're unhappy --- then ****ing leave. No one is stopping you, people have attempted to help, yet... it seems the OP isn't all that technically inclined to help himself.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tatnai:
def makes a diff

nope, many of us can easily go a couple of days on a charge with light use, and at least a whole day with mod to heavy use. maybe it is diff hardware versions, I don't know, but it's real, no bs.

this makes some difference as well

really, keep "enable always-on" mobile data checked? i'll buy it, but what is the reasoning behind that?

I agree, no task killer (waste of your time - only use is to occasionally check if apps like g-talk and fring are up and running)

it can be an app issue, there are battery draining apps out there.

?!? no, there are plenty of us getting great battery life out of our Evos. Is that really so hard to believe? no car charger, no extra battery, no charging case. seriously, it is achievable.

and I agree :D.

also: change your wifi sleep policy in settings > wireless > wifi settings > menu > advanced > wifi sleep policy to never.

turn off autorotate for your home screen proggy (adw, launcherpro).
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adelaney:
You should switch to an iphone, they'd are better for those with diminished mental capacity.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aikeru:
I'd like to add my 0.02c and suggestions in case they are helpful. :)

Task killers

One thing I think no one mentioned -- the task killers I've seen don't stop services running on the phone. In fact, they can't even see the services.

Given other problems I've heard, I have to agree - I run my EVO without a task killer installed.

Condition the battery

Always good to start here and try other stuff after. You may need/want to reset the battery counter too -- I'm not sure how that's done manually but a search should reveal the answer.

Reset to stock

Someone suggested this I have to agree -- reset to factory and experiment with your battery life without installing anything. I think this is your best option if you have no plan to root/install custom ROMs. Decide on whether you want to test before/after applying any OTA updates, which may make a big difference.

Also there are some better apps that measure battery usage and apps that wake the phone up but I believe they require root and possibly ADB.

My personal experience with the EVO is that with stock I had great battery life. After rooting it but still running stock, still great battery life.

Then I installed some app or something and my battery life just tanked. So I rooted NAND and installed Fresh 1.0.1 and have been careful about which apps I install but still with Exchange, Google, etc. all syncing I enjoy fantastic battery life while playing Slacker radio at work.

Also don't discount that the battery could have a HW issue. It happens.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DraginMagik:
/waves bye-bye to OP

hope you enjoy your iPhone. it seems that you may have misunderstood the xda folks. many of us here find the tweaking and flashing and swearing part of the fun. we're geeks.

1) don't be a baby asking to be handfed. take the time to read. when i got my EVO last month it was the first Android device i ever had in my hand. it's called reading and using the search functions. do what most of us did...read. then read some more. then ask questions.

2) your tone was that of a prick. momma used to tell me that i'd get more flies with honey than with vinegar. she was right. everyone here put in their two cents as a result of your post. perhaps you could have worded it differently...perhaps you could have found a way to be productive rather than get all pissy.

3) we don't care what phone you use. seriously. we don't. however, most folks (not all) will go out of their way to help someone that is trying to help themselves. this is not a paid board so do not talk to us like we a "the paid help".

4) if this is true...why such an inflammatory title?

Now the purpose of this thread was to possibly find a fix or an app that is causing the problem​

5) enjoy that ugly mandatory cover over that slick looking iPhone.

for the asshats...

1) guys...in his first post he said he was not rooted. so what is the first suggestion? load up an

Alpha

version of CM6. are you stoopid? keep the solutions in line with the user.

2) i'm not sure what your idea of "heavy use" is, but it can't be doing very much. so i rase the BS flag in your direction. http://www.forumspile.com/****-Flag.gif

Originally Posted by topdnbass

After heavy usage I'm at 13 hours with 75% battery life. I scoff at you *SCOFF*!!​