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[Desire General] foxmeister:
You cannot access write in /system whilst the phone is booted. You can only do this via ADB when in recovery.

Regards,

Dave
[Desire General] mortenmhp:
Well i take it you are trying while the android system is booted.

That won't work, as the phone has nand protection. Instead you should boot into a custom recovery and use "adb push" commands to copy files over.

Hope you can figure it out :) otherwise ask

edit: too late :)
[Desire General] dark_knight_1408:
Fristly, thanks for all of your advice. But in the recovery mode, PC does not recognize USB toogle connection. So how to activate the ADB sell to make the command input? Pls advise me for more detail.
[Desire General] dark_knight_1408:
In fact to me, ADB can recognize my HTC desire in window XP but when my Desire has already booted into main screen. When in recovery mode, ADB cannot detect my HTC desire (adb devices). Pls tell me install ADB driver so that ADB in winXP can detect my Desire even in recovery mode. Thanks.
[EVO 4G General] whoamanwtf:
I have read so many complaints and rants and raves. But all in all have seen most of them fixed with roms and kernels. This is a pretty pointless post but I just wanted to see one with people that are happy with their evos. I got mine at bb on launch day and still rocking it.
[EVO 4G General] acrh2:
Happy? I just proposed to my Evo.
[EVO 4G General] redrazr7791:
Although nothing will beat my first phone (Sanyo VM4500)...the EVO is the 2nd best phone I have owned :D
[EVO 4G General] GaryJ51:
++ I got mine on day one. Just did OTA updates and turn off all radios until I need them. I can go 3 days before a recharge with moderate surfing, texting, and phone usage. I read XDA forums mostly to understand how the phone works and how to avoid problems, but I think the stock EVO used sensibly, just plain rocks.

I'm not one of those who walks down the street with my phone in my face, nor do i walk through the mall with it glued to my ear, nor do i care about email push. I can understand how battery life is an issue for some, but for a dinosaur like me, it's the best Smartphone I've ever used. In fact, when you think about it, it's actually more powerful and capable than the Win 98 computers we were using just 10 years ago!
[EVO 4G General] Aridon:
Android is a great os if:

You are a min / maxer and can take things into your own hand with root and custom roms.

The issue comes when you are not willing to do the above but still expect certain things out of the box.

The average mindless cow with little clue will do just fine with any os.
[EVO 4G General] GaryJ51:
Mindless cows are entitled to buy these phones. They are not specifically for hackers only.
[EVO 4G General] Aridon:
I didn't say otherwise.
[EVO 4G General] afflaq:
There should be an IQ test before buying a phone.
[EVO 4G General] redrazr7791:
There are some people....
[EVO 4G General] nebenezer:
I agree that unfortunately this device does not come out of the box set up well for the average "phone" user. Getting the most out of the EVO or Android in general is not for the faint of heart or impatient (or stupid) people.

That said, I too am almost ready to propose to this phone. Two more paychecks and I can afford the diamond crusted engagement case I have on lay-away (that was a joke..)

I would say best phone ever but to be honest I don't think of the evo as a phone, at all. It is truly a pocket sized computer that comes with a phone and is sold by a phone company. It's nothing short of revolutionary.
[EVO 4G General] tempe38:
I got mine launch day from Best Buy too, been loving it, no root or nothing and no problems.
[EVO 4G General] dmora01:
If you use the evo stock, you don't have problems, just battery, but if you root the phone, the problems start!

Sent from my EVO!
[EVO 4G General] campchi:
I got mine from launch day, been loving this phone already. I've rooted and don't see much problem at all. I think if you know what to do after rooting then most problem.can ne resolve easily.

I've tested so many rom and still can't find much problem at all.

This indeed the best phone i've own. :)
[EVO 4G General] TrogdorsArm:
I'm still using stock from the day I bought it, the 2nd week it came out with all the OTA updates. No root, yet! I get 14 - 18 hours per charge with pretty heavy usage. People just need to read and tweak.

I love my Evo and my girlfriend loves it when I bring it to bed with us.

Swyped on my HTC Evo using XDA App
[EVO 4G General] -shift-:
Just? Dude, we've been happily married since launch
[EVO 4G General] toneman1984:
I just started a similar thread before reading your thread.

I'm rooted, running baked snacks 9.6 (the latest was slow) with the netarchy-toastmod FPS fix and overclocked with setcpu. I leave gps, wifi, and 4g on continuously just because I can (I rarely get 4g reception in San Marcos TX). Last night I didn't even charge the phone and I still had 50% battery life when I woke up. I get 55 frames per second consistently (stdv 5-6), and 5-point multitouch (I can play 5-note chords on piano app). It is blazingly smooth and fast. I spent hours downloading apps... probably have like 70 by now and it's still incredibly fast.

I love how I can just go to Google Nav and say my location and it understands me, and loads the destination onto the gps. In fact many apps I can just talk right into the phone and it just translates it.

I completely customized the home screen. It's pretty much my dream phone post XDA help. I have yet to find a single flaw. And it was a lot of fun learning how to root, flash roms, install kernels, and customize. It's like building your own PC and tweaking it to perfection. But then again I like projects and customization so the android community and xda community is definitely the place for me. The developers here are so awesome.

The difference between the EVO out of the box and the EVO in my hands is so large it may as well be called a different phone and it's all thanks to open source, sharing community.

I guess it's obvious I've become an EVO junkie by now. Iphone's are smooth out of the box, but so boring. What's to play with?

I compare the iphone to an xbox360 and an EVO to a PC computer. The former works out of the box (mostly) but you are limited to a closed system. The PC can be endlessly tweaked and customized.

Anyway, cheers!
[EVO 4G General] Casshern:
The Evo is a great phone, and a great development tool.

I have had mine sine i/o, and my network is big red. It's created quite a powerful duo for me. No 4g, but I don't really care about that. I don't even think it's in my area, but I'm not even about to map check it.

This phone has allowed me to get back into android programming etc without hassles, and I've been doing more and more things every day. I look forward to being able to release roms, themes, etc as well, once I get the hiccups polished out :D

As for the Evo, really, if it wern't for the XDA community, I don't think it would get as much play. I know I would have ditched the phone has it been a case of the Droid X, etc. It came down to the wire, and the Droid X was just days away. I made the choice to stick w/ the Evo, and stay far away from the Milestone boot loader.

I have the Evo to thank for a renewed interest in mobile technology and programming that I have not had, since the Touch Pro 1 days.
[EVO 4G General] NakkiNyan:
What did it take to change the MEID to make it work? I have a DroidX and hate it, I figure I can get a cheap Vz phone and port the MEID if I can find the tools.

Any way, good choice to stick with the Evo, I keep hoping to get one but Sprint sucks where I am at.
[EVO 4G General] Casshern:
I didn't go that route.

You can still manage to make things happen if you bash your head against a wall long enough, and talk to a million different people.

But don't forget. You get no insurance, no support, no anything. They provide the service to you, that's it. Provisioning works with *228, no hassles, but the initial work has to be done by you. Pre-programming, setting up the intricate details and whatnots.

Side note: Why do you hate the Droid X?
[EVO 4G General] NakkiNyan:
If Vz won't accept Sprint phones then how did you get it to work?

And sorry I didn't see until recently that MEID thing was illegal, I actually cam back to delete it but I guess I am too late...

Physical buttons are my #1 peeve I despise the ones on the front and I constantly hit the camera button on the side.

I should not EVER have to hear a button click to press and the pressure it takes to push them could be measured foot pounds plus I have big fingers and always hit 2 at a time.

- There are no words to explain how much I hate physical keys, it takes all caps and vulgarity, you get the idea.

Also coming from an iPhone with great asian support built in, including hand writing, this has none and even on the market the apps to replace it suck (I am being generous here.) I used it daily on my iPhone.

No front camera.

When I turn on Wi-Fi my bars drop in half.

Motoblur ... yuck
[EVO 4G General] dglowe343:
Been loving my phone since day one. It has its quirks and weaknesses but so does every other smartphone on the market. None of them are perfect. If I could pick any phone available right now, it would be this one. I've done most of the mods available and if you can use a computer, you can mod these phones. You don't need to be a hacker or a developer. Especially with sites like XDA.
[EVO 4G General] herbthehammer:
I was all excited at first on june 4, but since the newness had worn off and my add has kicked in, I'm more like meh now. My curiosity is going about the epic now. I miss my hardware keyboard...
[EVO 4G General] redrazr7791:
Yea, I will probably go into a Sprint store and mess with the EPIC 4G. Never really liked the hardware keyboard on phones, but wouldn't mind at least comparing the EVO to it.
[EVO 4G General] tatnai:
I've been running android on my vogue since late winter 2009. stepping into my evo a couple days after launch was like sitting for the first time in a mercedes after driving a jetta for five years.

My Evo is awesome. Android is the perfect OS for me and my style of use. I personally think it is great out of the box if you follow a few simple steps to maximize battery life (set wifi sleep to never, turn off auto sync, and prevent a few programs like google talk from autostarting). rooted mine the night I got it cause that's the kind of guy I am, and MAN, I love this phone.

Never thought I would be surfing full web pages happily from a phone, but on the Evo I can. Compared it to the iPhone 4, and I'm sorry, I love apple, but I could not go down to that screen size after experiencing the Evo. The 4.3 inch screen is simply liberating. I agree, calling the Evo a phone, even a smartphone, is like calling a motorcycle a moped - it misses the point entirely.

battery life is NOT an issue. With my rooted rom, I can play a few hours of Pandora and only drop 10-20%. Once my battery does its initial 20% drop coming off the charger (have yet to do the full HTC recs for maxing the battery, cause quite frankly, I haven't gotten close to running out), I drop a percent an hour when sleeping. I don't even think about saving my battery (unless I'm driving more than 1/2 an hour with GPS running).

Yeah, it's not perfect, nothing ever is if you dig deep enough. But it is better than anything else right now, and even when it isn't anymore, it will still be meeting all my needs.

Thank you HTC, thank you sprint (never thought I'd say that when I was using them 9 years ago), and most of all, thank you devs! it feels like I'm in love for the very first time (don't tell my wife :o)
[EVO 4G General] whoamanwtf:
These post have made my morning. Its awesome to see people feeling good about their "phones" lol. Some of the forums around made me wonder not that I really care since I love mine
[EVO 4G General] Casshern:
I'm sorry to hear about this. I had good hopes for the droid x. As for your query. The tip is be relentless. Talk to many people. If someone says no, say yes. Talk to supervisors, talk to cs, talk to all tiers of techs. Don't take no for an answer. If others have had phones activated in the past from other carriers, this is no exception. Tell them vzw is superior, and you don't want sprint just to have cutting edge, when vzw has the better network. You're a customer.its your right.
[EVO 4G General] NakkiNyan:
I'm a freaking idiot, I should have asked this from the beginning, how is your signal on Vz? from what I gather we are missing a signal band (850) but might catch it in the overlap with 800. Signal is a serious issue where I am at which is why I went with Vz. OK now I sound like I am begging for info...

Droid X is not bad it is just my preferences clash on almost every level, you may still like it, go to a store and check it out yourself. You can look st that list and see that none of it id build issues other than the Wi-Fi.
[EVO 4G General] GHOST99K:
love my evo but loving my HD2 more cuz im running Android 2.1 desire and 2.2 froyo by devs at the wm hd2 forum.thanx :D:D:D
[EVO 4G General] mrono:
I love my evo, i'm like tatnai and had the vogue before. Got it on launch day and never regretted it!
[EVO 4G General] xlGmanlx:
As others have said the stock evo and what you have running now are usually miles apart. Thanks to the forum rooted and haven't looked back since, compared to my iphone 3g and work bb its not even close

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[EVO 4G General] frankenstein\:
This individual is tripin. I rooted the day I got this puppy, full root not unrevoked, and haven't had any serious issues. I've run numerous rom's from various devs and couldn't be happier. Currently jumping back and forth between a rooted stock rom that I moded myself and cm6 nightly builds. Happy happy happy...
[EVO 4G General] kf2m:
This is my first "real" smartphone (had the Samsung Instinct). Haven't been able to put it down since launch day(the wifey is getting kinda jealous, but I think she is going to bail on VZW, and come back into the Sprint fold when her contract is up). Been rooted. Running Baked 9.7 with netarchy-Toast kernel. Funny thing is I was only getting the Evo just for tethering my laptop....
[EVO 4G General] DanBergundy:
Im running stock rooted with some basic battery tweaking and I loveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee this phone. I knew when it was announced it would be the phone for me and I am sticking with it. It's incredible.
[EVO 4G General] Casshern:
My signal is great, actually. And after a nice dmu reset, my data is chugging away. I also have full sms / mms send recieve capability. Ive noticed lower data rates than those on sprint, no clue as to the resolution for it yet.

Ie. Downloads around 150kbps, uploads around 800/900kbps.
[EVO 4G General] Casshern:
Would you say, it's (an)DROID incredible?

Yeah yeah bad joke.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bchalk:
... Long time (6+ years) BlackBerry user, I've had a G1, but never took it serious and actually used it as a primary phone, it was a fun wifi only device. Well I made the plunge and got sick of waiting for someone serious from BB and I sprung for the Vibrant (Android 2.1) leaving my BB without service.

One of the many annoyances I've come across with Android is recent searches.

Whether it's in the Market or Google Maps you tap search and your recent entries appear, is there anyway to retweak any of the recent ones? I tried to long press and got nothing, no dragging it anywhere, I find it strange this would be left out. I don't see any entries for that functionality on Google's Code page for Android either, http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/list .

On the BB in Google Maps I just use the trackball scroll down to it, and scroll right and it's in the edit box for me to change. Or I can press the menu (essentially equivalent to the android long press) and get the standard options to do things like copy the text to the clipboard and stuff... All reasonable tasks.

Is this possible in Android? It's extremely annoying having to go back and retype the whole search just because you wanted to change a tiny part of it.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] GinoAMelone:
+1

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[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bchalk:
... I'll just assume this is one of the many things "Droid Doesn't" :|.

I love the Vibrant, but I miss my BB :'(. I wish I could afford to just have both.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] techknow:
Settings >search >google search settings. There should be an option here stop web suggestions. Dunno about google maps though
[Droid X Android Development] pman219:
Has anyone compiled a list of apps that are safe to remove ?
[Droid X Android Development] jatilq:
Do not remove backupassistantclient

mrweeeedbirdman via tweet

DO NOT REMOVE BACKUPASSISTANTCLIENT if you do, get it back on there NOW! a factory reset will result in a near brick.
[Droid X Android Development] quietguy:
I have removed:

3G hotspot

Kindle

Amazon MP3

Blockbuster

Skype

And did a factory reset.
[Droid X Android Development] dvation191:
I can add CityID to that list.
[Droid X Android Development] genesis72:
Stupid Noob question, (have root) how? where do I find them?
[Droid X Android Development] drew630:
I don't have the phone in my hands YET, but System apps should be in /system/app

Just use adb shell or the terminal app from the market, commands as follows:

-'su' (get SuperUser permissions)

-'cd system'

-'cd app'

now you can use 'ls' to list the contents of the directory, and when you find the APK you want to remove just type

'rm {name_of_apk}.apk'

note that everything is case sensitive... It probably the easiest to use adb, because its easy to mistype of the soft keyboard. But you need to have the Android SDK installed for that.

I hope that makes sense, obviously don't type the single quotes in the shell...
[Droid X Android Development] titos1997:
I tried it and it says the file is read only any ideas
[Droid X Android Development] iRMac:
Wait, doing a factory reset should cause these apps to come back and cause the phone to be just like new out of the "factory..."
[Droid X Android Development] orcsbane13:
Negative, this factory reset doesn't seem to touch the system folder. In theory you could copy some apps to the system/app folder and they would still be there afterwards.
[Droid X Android Development] orcsbane13:
Oh and moral of the story, don't delete anything you might want later. Always a safer bet to rename the .apk to .bak
[Droid X Android Development] bblanski:
This is what I have been doing with root explorer. Got rid of a bunch of crap. Hopefully I don't run into any issues.
[Droid X Android Development] drew630:
If you are su then try to chmod (might need busybox).. something like 'chmod 777 {file}' or 'busybox chmod 777 {file}' then delete.. if that does not work try to chown it.
[Droid X Android Development] InspecterJones:
I'm confused, when i try and delete something, say Blockbuster.apk, I get "Read-only file system"

It wont let me chmod and I do have root (evidenced by the #) so what is going on. This is obv my first time rooting an android phone and I only have light experience with linux.
[Droid X Android Development] InspecterJones:
Nvm, didn't realize it had to be mounted first.

For anyone else look here...

http://www.breakandmake.com/2010/07/22/remove-some-bloat-from-your-droid-x/
[Droid X Android Development] jadambpharm:
I have removed:

46 apps - see LINK below. Had them listed here, but didn't want people to remove things that weren't fully safe (i.e. successful factory reset) to remove.
[Droid X Android Development] genesis72:
Geez!!! What do you use your phone for anyway?!?!?! ;) :D
[Droid X Android Development] jadambpharm:
haha, you'd be surprised! i'm back down to just what android should be, really :) i use k9 for mail and google voice for text, so i do tend to get rid of some of the normally necessary things :)

btw: here is my updated list. this includes apps you can remove and 'still' perform a successful factory reset:

http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/droid-x-hacks/1347-removing-bloat-11.html#post13552
[Droid X Android Development] Riztnack:
Once everything is removed why would you want to do a factory reset?
[Droid X Android Development] bblanski:
To see if he can. Lol
[Droid X Android Development] jadambpharm:
To make sure that those of you who later need to do a factory reset (if the phone has a problem of some sort) can do so safely, without having to worry about a partially-bricked phone. Factory resets don't restore all the files, so a necessary file to provision the phone, etc (if deleted) would not be restored and you'd have no easy way to get past activation :) Trust me... been there with this phone!
[Droid X Android Development] grdm:
We test this lastnite on a few units, as long as you put everything back with the right permissions and put the phone back to pristine non-root you can update and wipe and whatever.

The bootloopers are getting a permission error thats why.
[Droid X Android Development] Riztnack:
So what will people need to do to unroot their phone?
[Droid X Android Development] grdm:
put all the apks back in the system app dir

set the permissions correctly

remove the su from the system apps dir

remove busybox

remove the exploid and all the files you pushed with adb

re-install the bloatware just to be sure

then wipe and whatnot, but reboot once beforehand to make sure all the system app apk bloatware you put back (for example BuaContactAdapter.apk) are running fine
[Droid X Android Development] virtualepiphany:
anyone else rename blockbuster and have it still showing? all the other ones i renamed to .bak are gone, but blockbuster is still in the app tray.
[Droid X Android Development] onelifexv:
Blockbuster needs to be removed from /data/apps (I think that's the path) and /system/apps .. same with Amazon I believe.
[Droid X Android Development] vybztymz:
Safe to remove apps

I've a T-Mobile (UK) htc Desire, and have removed the following without any ill effect (so far) in other apps

Plurk,

FaceBook,

Stocks (and com.htc.StockWidget.apk),

Twitter,

Quick Office and

YouTube
[Droid X Android Development] derekm_:
We cannot remove those, yet.

Two totally different animals, this wildebeest is sensitive.
[Droid X Android Development] vybztymz:
I dont understand what you mean
[Droid X Android Development] derekm_:
Well, everybody on this particular section of the forum pretty much exclusively deals with the Motorola Droid X. The HTC Desire is more than likely a lot more lenient on the way it checks for required apps than the droid x. Motorola threw the douchbag card out and (to my limited knowledge) made this one of the more locked down phones, unfortunately.

I think a bunch of people rushed to get 'blockbuster' and 'cityid' and 'amazon' and other utterly useless "should be illegal" bloatware. I mean how can it be legal to LOCK blockbuster on to the phone, Verizon is not even locked onto the phone (except the name Verizon on it twice). Anyways its very understandable that people want them removed, since they actively take up memory; and if not managed perfectly, these bloatware apps WILL slow down you phone.

What you doin' on the internet in london anyways? Yall need to be gathering firewood for when the gulf stream stops flowing.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xghostyxjokerx:
hey im running froyo right now what link do you use to have this kernel??? im in need for a mjor battery saver kernel!!! please anyone help!! im on stanby for like 20 mintues and um using rodriguez rom and i have the tack maager open at in 20 minutes it drain like 12 percent??
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xghostyxjokerx:
can anyone help me??
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xghostyxjokerx:
????......................
[Galaxy S I9000 General] baoru:
can i9000 power up without the battery inserted?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Techno79:
I'm assuming you mean without the battery when it is plugged into the wall or a USB socket?

I can't say for sure but I've never seen a mobile that does work this way and can't think why you want to (after all it is a mobile). Having said that, laptops do allow you to do this so I could be wrong.