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[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mskip:
From Cotullas Twitter:

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Remember this is just DFT team tests, please never ask about release date and etc. Please don't annoy with questions...Future will show all.

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okay... wanna news? yes, they shocked even myself. Look video: http://cotulla.pp.ru/leo/WP7S/VIDEO0243.mp4 This is just demo :-)

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Mark.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ddgarcia05:
Is the video link working for you?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Showtime7:
Oh wow, WP7 loading on the HD2 already?

Now I wonder if this will be the focus rather than Android? I would love to be able to flash either on to my HD2 at some point.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bazgee:
For anyone having problems with the mp4, here is a link to the video on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_HWhG-nrzk

:D

Thread here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=802979
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Don001:
Download it by right clicking, for some reason, is not working by just clicking on the link.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] SkywalkerPD:
WOW! Speechless.......
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nks2105:
wow...

this is like Lost... it answered one thing: WP7 can run on the HD2

but now we all have thousands other questions :D

how? why? what? when? fake? is the phone dead from the beginning?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] xmRipper:
They should firstly focus on public release of Nand Android, not WP7 >_<

But anyway, that's really great to see WP7 is working on HD2.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] al11588:
Wow, it boots up faster than the WP7 phones.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Jammie_1989:
Mayb this is the big update he was talking about
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] davidgk:
this is awesome!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] HarnicGreeras:
OMG !!! cannt believe this
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bazgee:
So this thread doesnt get filled up with off topic discussion here is a thread for wp7 on hd2: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=802979
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] al11588:
Are the mods going to make an hd2 windows phone 7 section seeing that the video shows it can run...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rickster21:
OK that's it, if the GSensor doesn't freeze touch-screen and auto-brightness work in WP7, I'm ditchin' android...

nah, jk :p
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] fstluxe:
Cotulla is Crazyy!!;D haha!!:)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] fstluxe:
any one Loves His work like me ?

Just Donate !

this is his Page http://xdaforums.com/member.php?u=600525

I donated 10 USD!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dubie76:
Everyone is excited about this new update showing win7 running on HD2. I thought the whole nand project was to get Android to fully run on the HD2. I could care less about win-doze.....
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rr5678:
I wish I could donate. I lost my job recently and the job market ain't fair.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Don001:
The job scenes pretty bad everywhere, since we are so close to having NAND Android, do what I'm doing and learning how to make Android applications, trust me, you wont regret it!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] juanzho11:
I don't think so. I guess he just want to surprise us all with both systems.....:-D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] sp33dy_gtx:
I hate this I hate my phone. Maybe sell it for somethink stable is so much stres.

Nobody who has any ideea about what's going there to come here and tell us:

-Retards don't wait We have 50% working of the system.

-nand:

-led, wifi ,bt ..... and in progress list : audio in call , whatever.

Thats just everybody is stressing waa android on nand, no we are just in the moment to write or read dunno.

RESPECT ALL YOUR WORK DEVELOPERS I HAVE AN GREAT ANDROID EXPERIENCE ON MY HD2 BUT HERE IS NO ORGANISATION. PERIOD
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] StephanV:
It's funny how you complain about a lack of organisation while your post doesn't have any kind of structure. Do you just type random words that pop into your head?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nlo:
looooooooooool :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Don001:
OK no hate intended but honestly, what on earth are you talking about? I didn't understand any of what you said, I'm trying to figure out whether what you said was positive or negative
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] fig_jam_uk:
Time to lighten the moodz...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jase33:
WOW!!!! what was that?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rajkosto:
no you don't, silly kitteh

but i do

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KciRhnePeU&fmt=22
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] matiasmanzo:
WOOOWWWWWWW

[YOUTUBE]2WO7bkWEoAQ[/YOUTUBE]
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] eghoti1:
We are in the moment to read but can't tell what we are reading. :confused:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] eghoti1:
I think I just shat myself
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rajkosto:
why repost older video when i posted a new one (which has more working in it) ?

you people really confuse me sometimes

do i have to make it embedded so that people would see it ?

[YOUTUBE]0KciRhnePeU[/YOUTUBE]

there.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mskip:
Dont worry about them sometimes they have too much coffee and have no idea what they are posting lol.

Since you have posted a link to download a NAND Android build in your youtube vid does this mean that magldr should be publicly released soon as you are going to have ALOT of people downloading from your link and asking why they cant put it on their phones.

If there is still no scheduled release date it might be wise to take the link off your tube vid for now or you will be bembarded with at least 2000 questions.

BTW great work and thanks for keeping everyone up to date with vids and information :)

Mark.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rajkosto:
they dont have to install it, builders can unpack it and see how i did initrd, etc

my links have been public in the irc logs anyway

there are instructions inside the archive so if anyone still thinks they can do it without magldr then it's their fault.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jagger2k:
thanks for yet another amazing clip.

Can you explain why you always go in the termianal before you power down?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mskip:
Fair enough lol ;)

Mark.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rajkosto:
so you can see where /system and /data are mounted from, and that there is no rootfs unlike before
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dharvey4651:
So then realistically, the only thing really keeping users from running Android from nand is the lack of a public release of magldr.

And from what I understand it's compatible with both 512 and 1024Leo's as well.

Guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens..

Also, after reading the install.txt included in rajkosto's archive, I'm going to go ahead and say that an "idiot-proof" desktop exe to flash Android is going to be rather necessary. Once this nbh is released, I'm going to bet my phone that without a desktop application for the PC there are going to be countless people brick their devices...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rajkosto:
you cant brick your phone by interacting with magldr

magldr is flashed like a wm rom, and you can overwrite it (and any nand partitions after it) by just reflashing some wm
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Beretta93:
Actually, I can't understand why Cotulla won't release MAGLDR right now. I mean, we all coming here know we take risks by flashing our phones right? I think installing hspl is as risky as installing magldr, and what's more, since hspl coexists with magldr, we can always flash winmo back just in case someting wrong happens.

He should just let us take the risk, don't you think? Personally, I'm tired of checking everyday for a release which does not show up. It actually works right now, so I'm burning to flash your build, and get over WinMo once and for all. Then we can donate and apreciate.

I think this teasing is a reward for trolls messing with Cotulla every day on HTC_Linux and elsewhere, and I think it's kind of unfair that supporting people patiently waiting without disturbing should pay for the pranks of those retards.

Anyway, I hope we can all enjoy DFT Team and all HTC_Linux's developpers' work, including yours very soon. Cheers man.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mskip:
Just what I was thinking lol I know you cant brick your device by doing anything wrong in magldr as long as you have HardSPL you can always reflash WM but people nowadays dont expect to be made to think :rolleyes:

I guess im going to have to get out my 'Idiots guide' typewriter out :D

Mark.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] billgs:
Hey rajkosto, congats on your brilliant work.

Just one question, how does battery drain (standby and light usage) compare to running android off the sdcard?

I think this question concerns al ot of users.

Cheers and thanks again
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] cedesmith:
@rajkosto read your WARNING.txt and i have a suggestion:

can you add in your flash.sh something like this

if[`ls -all /proc/mtd* | wc -l` -lt 3]
then
echo "error: partitions not found. magldr not present ?"
exit 555;
fi

i don't know if the code is 100% correct but i guess you get the idea... list all partitions 1/line and count lines. if less then 3 then quit.

when magldr will be released chefs will take after you and will probably lead to a lot less few devices bricked compared if you rely on eager users to do the check themselves.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Hauk00:
I somewhat agree with this, if wifi is the only thing that doesnt work... whatever, its not like i ever use it, and im sure even those that do would be willing to compromise for this then reflash later when things are working. I mean look at winmo rom development threads, theres a new version coming out every 1-2 weeks on active roms, some are buggy, some are not... this system of releasing mostly completed projects works, I just feel that if its brick-proof the worst thing that even the most clueless people can do it mess up, reflash winmo, and try to get help from the community as some people will for sure figure things out and help others. A release would also kickstart rom development as I know for sure every dev will jump on updating their roms and getting things running nicely for when development is complete.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dharvey4651:
From what I've been led to believe, most ROM devs already have it. It's just those of us who don't know how to build a ROM for Android and aren't assisting in the magldr project that aren't allowed to use it yet...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ivaaaaaan:
379ma power consumption

run on full speed and turn on data and wifi

wow
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Beretta93:
WiFi us working with sdcard without mbr, or with rajko's latest build which includes kernel directly on NAND, so you can boot without sdcard.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Apache0c:
I dont believe for one second that Cotulla is holding back on the magldr release just to punish those who annoyed him. I think it is wrong for you to accuse him of that. The guy did a TON of work to make this all possible. He doesnt owe any of us anything. There are way more of us who are waiting patiently and excited to talk about this project than the ones that cant seem to control themselves because they have no life and want to bother the Dev's and he know's that. I'm sure that he just wants to deliver a product that he is proud of and wants everything to work flawlessly. So stay off his back, talking about him poorly is not helping anything and it just disgusts those of us who appreciate his work.

In other words, if you cant say something nice or at least something constructive, then dont say anything at all.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] figtab:
+10000000 i totally agree. Android on the HD2 started rocking once cotulla joined the dev team. Cotulla should be getting a big FAT donation from the XDA community for all the work he has done. I believe we should all donate once MAGLDR is public.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] :
Hmm i actually cant wait for this.i check everyday!! i get excited about it to be honest i feel as tho i made a mistake by buying the HD2 not that its not a bad ass phone but i came from using a G1 i realllllllyyyy got used to the keyboard, i had the mytouch3g when it first came out..threw it away...and about another G1..i didnt know the G2 was coming out i would have waited..but anyways i think people should honestly stop asking when its coming out..i mean its rather another and sometimes i do read the IRC txt and i see how people who dont know jack about dev and modding are bugging and bugging about..when its going to be released can they join bla bla bla..they should password protect that IRC channel and leave it to Devs,Mods, and people with proper authorization or knowledge! i really have to thank all the people that are taking time from their life to make this possible for us...to EVEN run Android on this Amazing phone..but yeah that ends my RANT..lol

LEAVE THE MAGIC MAKERS ALONE!!!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] the_scotsman:
Damn, that's boot up quickly...

Anyone who says moving to NAND from SD card has no advantages if very much mistaken...thanks for the updates!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Pippowicz:
Fully agree to that. But nice to see the Progress being made in Rajkos Videos. I understand Cotulla not releasing magldr till its perfect. Im waiting badly for

nand flash too but i dont want to brick my Phone at all. And i want to use a (nearly) perfect System if released. So just a little more patience is needed.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zarathustrax:
The bootup speed is probably going to be the only really noticeable difference... but how often do you really bootup your phone.

I just don't understand people thinking nand will be the big turning point for android and that its gonna solve all the bugs and issues. I hear people talking about selling their phone because nand might still take a while, and everyone is just making such a big deal about needing nand now... but we're not going to be able to do anything that we can't already do... except bootup quicker.

Why is everyone in such a rush for nand? Why aren't people more interested in and pushing for the kernel to be improved and worked on so we can see some real improvements in the operation of android so we can get a fully working bug free android. Nand is just changing where android stored... it all still runs from the same RAM. We're still gonna have the same issues.

It will be nice having magldr so we can boot directly into android, so even keeping winmo in nand like I'm doing, bootup time will still be improved greatly cause we can skip the step of booting into winmo. But I'm in no hurry. I'm just hoping that when their done focusing on nand, they go back to focusing on the kernel so wean get some real performance improvements. But whatever the devs do, I am grateful for what they have do to make our hd2s so versatile. I look forward to seeing meego and wp7 ports and having a quad-booting phone!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Pippowicz:
I personally think that running Android from NAND will be an even bigger motivation to Kernel-Devs. But on the other side it will perhaps take another long time to have full hardware support on HD2. Dont see how hardware support will change only by booting from NAND.

Like stated before i want to have a nearly perfect system if running from NAND and im willing to wait.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kuriboi:
Forgive me if this is totally N00b, but isn't the main reason for Android being on nand is boot time and battery issues being solved?

We already know it boots really fast, but the big thing is the battery. Some builds have you going from 100% to 50% in just one hour. Mainly because it's using the SD card and all the other phone sources. With Nand I don't expect those type of things to happen or at least happen as frequently (since we all know Android phones have crap battery management and the HD2's stock battery is just as bad)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Hauk00:
Yes it will affect battery life as NAND uses less power than SD cards, but no it wont be a huge difference... most of the operating system is loaded into ram on boot. What would be required to improve battery life is better drivers and governors. We should eventually be able to come close to matching battery life to native android phones with similar hardware, to scale with battery size of course. Boot time will be great for sure, this has been confirmed by videos.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Itaintrite:
There's a really simple reason why an unfinished work that's potentially damaging shouldn't be released to the public yet. For every user who knows what he (or she) is doing, or at least understand the risks, there are probably 10 who will ***** and moan if they mess up their phones.

I'll wait :p I too am more interested in seeing better kernels and builds.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] :
hey guys,

i am totally right with "Itaintrite". Iam following the thread for a few days and wondering about people, who wanted a build, wich isn't released yet.

I Won't crash my phone, so iam waiting...i am really hot about getting the release, but only the release... :D

I thank all of you programmers, for your work, that you made it possible, to run Android on HD2 sdcard rioght now...and iam curious waiting for the nand as well...

:cool:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Beretta93:
I ain't talking poorly about cotulla what are you talking about. I have given my opinion, I'm not on anyone's back since I never talked to the guy and I think my point was perfectly explained and plainly understandable.

Everybody agrees that cotulla is the man, the magician who brought a second life (and soon a third life) to our hd2, but that does not excludes him from criticizes when they are justified. The fact that magldr is closed source is even by itself is arguable, and I've read some complains about it from developpers as meritful as him.

And I think personally that I'm ready to take the "risk" to brick my phone with magldr, for I assume that's far more usable than plently of flashing software that I used to break my previous smartphones (and video consoles), and even more trustworthy than buggy than tons of constructor's device utilities, samsung's kies for instance.

So is it a taboo to have this kind of talk? I don't think so. I'm planning to donate 10 bucks when magldr us delivered so I'm not an ungrateful moron like you describe, but I'm also willing to take my responsabilities to have it sooner, and that does not make cotulla's detractor for so much.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] krat0s123:
this post right here, gave me a huge migraine!!! still trying to figure out what he was trying to say.. hmmm.. i wonder.. is this person old enough to be on this forum?? coz he sure sounds like my 3 y.o. nephew.. lol.. no offense.. :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] StephanV:
CotullaCode but still some work needed, like fixing bad audio quality.

1 minute ago

CotullaCode *FIXED* WLAN is working now on Android NAND too (with and without mbr on sd %))!

2 minutes ago
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] deadey3:
thanks for the updated info, finally Wifi is working.. just have to wait for video to pop up showing this :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] lonelykatana:
All the arguing in this thread is getting pathetic.

Sort it out Mods....
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] 12aon:
Sort it out huh? What would you have us do exactly? Silence everybody with an opinion different from yours? Closing this this thread only for other threads to reappear?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Jammie_1989:
Well said if you want just updates check cotulla's twitter or the irc logs not here.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hengmy:
may i know what application used to show the network speed in the 2:00 of the video?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] wooded:
I'd like to be able to turn the phone on and boot to android without Winmo at all. my reasons are simply selfish - I want to be able to charge my device at work without the android OS getting disrupted because the computers want to read the SD card. Same reason is so i can transfer files to the sd card without the Android dying and rebooting to winmo. as soon as you need to SD card to be unmounted the OS dies, thats why i want to be able able to boot from the internal memory. I can put up with it for now but I'm looking forward to the day when I can get rid of Winmo full stop... its causing me baldness the amoun of times it does things i don't want it to do or crashs when your in the middle of something important, I 've had issues with device for months so it was pure pleasure when android finally was able to be booted.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] die_Leuchte:
No it is not, ou can easily unmount "virually" take out the sd card while Android is runing from that card. Try it out.

Some apps are only installable when the sd card is unmountd, so I did this many times without any issues.

No issues like that too, maybe you should try another build or change you WinMO ROM or upgrade you Radio ROM or else. For the USB Mounting / Data filesystem disruption issues simply choose something else than "USB drive" from the selection and if you need to access files on the sd card from PC simply install droid explorer on it..

I am sorry, but nothing of what you issue here ever has been a problem for me - maybe because I read a lot of threads carefully (don't want to do some hastey judgements, but for me it seems like you do not read enough posts).

Rgds LED
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Beretta93:
I think he meant taking of sdcard. At its current state, Android condemns sd card hot swap, which is a featuring that also I would enjoy getting back.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] die_Leuchte:
Ah I am sory, I got that wrong...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rajkosto:
even if you virtually unmount /mnt/sdcard from android on sdcard builds, it's still mounted in /sdcard for the loop mounted partitions to work, so using the usb mass storage mode is NEVER safe.

on my build, sdcard behaves exactly the same as it would on a real android device, hotswap them all you want, use usb mass storage properly etc, and neocore (and other sd froyo apps) didnt install because there was no device-mapper support in kernel, which there now is, so no need to unmount sdcard anymore
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Don001:
Beautiful! One step closer to the release of NAND!!! Have a good feeling now about this!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Apache0c:
So is there a safe way to transfer media files to the SD card using the current builds that we have available or should be only be using WM to transfer files?