yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] FL5:
That was just how I calculated the percentages that I had reported.

It's really not that hard to utilize 80% of the ram. Just leave the file system cache set to automatic and turn on Opera Mobile 10. :p

After that, I can get it down to ~17Mb free after opening a few other programs before winmo goes nuts and starts shutting stuff down.

Buuuuuuuut, that's intentionally putting it under a hard load with a crappy cache setting. Backing the file system cache down to 2Mb seems to manage memory a lot more reasonably for me. After that, I have to really go out of my way and fill the arkswitch screen with running processes to get down to ~20Mb of free ram.

I haven't had time yet today to specifically pay attention and test cache settings against typical usage, but I haven't had any problems that I've noticed. Seems to be a rather nice combination of snappy and stable for what I do so far.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] theoriginal15:
Music Tab

I need everyone's help. I got a 16GB SD card and started adding songs with WMP on the 21680 build. Now, the problem is the songs stop after about 20 seconds of play (sometimes more).

Does anyone know how to fix this? If not, I may have to go back to the 23130 build. :( Thanks in advance.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
I'm talking about when the phone is at idle.. Why would you measure RAM usage when programs are running? Chef's don't code the programs, RAM used by these programs are mostly out of the chef's control.. It's not difficult to get any ROM to 80% RAM usage.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] FL5:
Yeah... That was kinda the point I was aiming toward with that one. Seems the message got lost in my inane ramblings... In my mind, I was illustrating that the rom's memory management was more than adequate and left me plenty of breathing room to clog with other programs and junk. I do tend to sometimes get off base and lose coherency, especially when posting from my phone. My apologies on that.

Data!: I'm sitting at the high 90's (occasionally very low 100's) of RAM utilized at idle, after everything I have enabled in sense and cht takes its bite out.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] schumifer1:
simplicity_03_October_21680.Rapidshare Link

simplicity_03_October_21916.Rapidshare Link
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DiAbLoxx83:
No problem for me in same rom. :confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] smithisize:
From CHT 2.0's state indicator for ram
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] FL5:
That little fellow does not update itself adequately at all. It will sit with a significantly inaccurate amount for a good while, so much so that I've had to dismiss it as pretty much unusable for any reliable information. I made a free link on my home tab to the control panel memory page. Yes, you do have to click it instead of simply having a number displayed, but it gives usable info. Try that out and see what your numbers look like.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Svein10:
Hi, reformat your SD card and you will be fine. Just past your files to the PC, reformat and copy back. ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] theoriginal15:
Honestly, I tried a different ROM and now it works flawlessly! I went from 21680 to 21679. Keep that in mind...

Thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MauriceA:
Bugs in October 3th version?

Hello seeM_ZA, checking in now as mentioned in my previous post...

Installed ROM: simplicity_03_October_21680 (after performing Task29).

First, speed of the ROM is great compared to the stock rom (Sense2.1) I previously used. Very comfortable. Today I had my first SOD, which I had several times in the stock Sense2.5. Formatted by Storage Card today to see if it prevents the SOD.

Now the bugs...

1. Background picture for lock screen wallpaper is not applied through the Sense setting tab

Settings/Personalize/Lock screen wallpaper/... not the default wallpaper but a personal jpg on storage card.

2. Setting the background picture through startmenu results in the same background on lock screen and startmenu:

Startmenu/Settings/Home/use this picture as the background... personal jpg on storage card

3. Reply or Forward mail via the Sense mail tab does not include the original message.

4. Reply mail via Pocket Outlook does not include the original message.

5. Forward mail via Pocket Outlook from the corperate account (installed with company certificate) shows the original mail at the bottom of the new message. After sending the mail the original message is replaced by several ==== signs and the original message is included as attachement. Before the original was just at the bottom of the mail. This is conform my Outlook settings on the laptop.

6. Synchronising Pocket Outlook with Exchange Server looks instable. Messages which are removed from my Server Inbox are still on the phone. Maybe there is an incident at my company Exchange Server but this behaviour is present after installing the ROM. Also I have experienced empty mails with no sender and body text. These mails dissapered after a while. I know this bug is not very concrete, but it describes the behaviour I have noticed the past two day.

I prefer the previous behaviour of not showing sender and receiver email adresses because replying and forwarding was not an issue.

I hope you can solve the email bugs as they are critical for me. In my job I have to reply/forward mail frequently via the phone and have to rely on this functionality.

Will continu to use the ROM this week and report new findings later.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Svein10:
OK, but I still think a reformat would have fixed it for the 21680... ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tiemen_S:
1. Background picture for lock screen wallpaper is not applied through the Sense setting tab

Settings/Personalize/Lock screen wallpaper/... not the default wallpaper but a personal jpg on storage card.

>> You know you have to click albums at the right bottom softkey to go to your storage card?

2. Setting the background picture through startmenu results in the same background on lock screen and startmenu:

Startmenu/Settings/Home/use this picture as the background... personal jpg on storage card

>> The default lockscreen (there is no modded app included) background has been linked to the start menu background for as long as I can remember. It's no bug, it's just WinMo!

3. Reply or Forward mail via the Sense mail tab does not include the original message.

>> True. Clicking on the message and then reply works. I haven't used email this much that I know if this is common or a bug.

4. Reply mail via Pocket Outlook does not include the original message.

>> Is this something seperate from what you get when clicking on an e-mail on mail tab? Because that works fine on my install, like I said at #3..

5. Forward mail via Pocket Outlook from the corperate account (installed with company certificate) shows the original mail at the bottom of the new message. After sending the mail the original message is replaced by several ==== signs and the original message is included as attachement. Before the original was just at the bottom of the mail. This is conform my Outlook settings on the laptop.

>> I only sync with University server with ActiveSync, so I think I can't tell. I have replied on a long message once, on my laptop it just showed fine. No "===="

6. Synchronising Pocket Outlook with Exchange Server looks instable. Messages which are removed from my Server Inbox are still on the phone. Maybe there is an incident at my company Exchange Server but this behaviour is present after installing the ROM. Also I have experienced empty mails with no sender and body text. These mails dissapered after a while. I know this bug is not very concrete, but it describes the behaviour I have noticed the past two day.

>> Never experienced blank emails.. With me syncing "read" statusses and deleted mails just works fine. I don't use instant sync, but once an hour (off peak: 2 hours).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] applemehr:
i use simplicity 3 September 21887 2016CHT

i want to cancel the vibration in the phone dialer and calculator. i disable the tab in (personalize/vibration)menu but it still vibrates in phone dialer.dose anyone know how to solve my problem?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] andrew-in-woking:
Bug Reports - 21916 3rd October

Hi

One bug to report: I can not open the settings dialogues for MS Office Mobile 2010 Pocket Word or Pocket Excel. I experienced this bug directly after flash with no applications installed or tweaks made to the ROM. This bug appeared in some previous versions also. I have not tried to fix it myself as it's clearly a very minor bug.

One other problem is that the HTC Sense Music Tab has not picked up all of my music's album art the way previous versions have. The icon in top left corner of the tab does not animate when you click on it, or when you select an "Update Album Art" option from the RSK menu.

I have not had any other problems. The memory usage is currently running between 65% and 75% but that is with quite a lot of things installed, etc. The memory started at around 50% when I first flashed the ROM.

I have seen some discussion about formatting SD cards. I have done this for the first time before flashing the 3rd October ROM and it seems to have made some positive difference to the speed and memory usage.

Many thanks

andrew-in-woking
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
I'm guessing you're talking about the 219xx build? Yeah I think it has a problem with MS Office.. I totally forgot about that, my bad, I'll try to fix it.

I tested the HTC Album update thing on simplicity and another ROM and it didn't work on either. Perhaps the servers that HTC use are down? I don't know, it would help if someone could test it on a stock ROM maybe.

Thanks for the feedback :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] WarlockW:
simplicity_03_October_21680

Found a small Bug .. But it bugs me :(

The " Reject a call with a Text Message " Option is turned off ..

but it still askes me to edit it and then send .. checked the reg. setting and it is off .. "0"

has worked fine in many of the roms I have tried .. however doesnt in the simplicity_03_October_21680 ver .. Dono If it can be fixed or not ..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DiAbLoxx83:
mmm very strange... here same option is turned off, but i don't have any problem. This day i have rejected 2 calls.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] schumifer1:
Does anybody here use other taskbar icons? Any cab you would suggest? All i need is a larger battery icon, but if i should have to change the whole taskbar, then i would like something colorful (much like our chef's)

Also , how many in here use quickmenu? Is it the one by ocman? Any other available?

And, i have tried to change the mms size through registry values but the mms interface still shows 100kb

EDIT. mms issue fixed. 51200 limit..hehehe
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] WarlockW:
Damit .. hate when that happens :( Hmmm any ideas ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] genaldar:
Since I figured it out I thought I'd share. Just back up the YouTube folder from Windows. I had XDA_UC copy it after the install and I can't log into YouTube under data connections. It's no big deal, since I'm not even sure why there is a login option for YT at all.

btw seeM, I love the newest rom its working great with CHT 2. With 2 exceptions. Microsoft Voice Command 1.6.23562 doesn't work. It installs but you can't pull up the settings. I'm planning on installing a different version to see if it works ok.

And second using S2U2 sometimes the bottom bar partially covers the slider when the screen comes back on. It clears off after a second, but I thought I would let you know. I ran into the same problem in the 3 September release after I skinned the bars, so thats probably the culprit.

Thanks for the updated rom.

update: MSVC 1.6.19209 seems to work fine (well at least the settings do, I'll check it out more thoroughly when I get the chance).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] genaldar:
BSB tweaks will stop it in calculator, not sure about the dialer. Honestly I never noticed it in dialer until your post.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wl.004130:
Will there be set out under 21680cht2.0 rom
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
Luckily, all your problems should only relate to 3 or so packages (Messaging Enhancement, tmail.exe which isn't even a package and Manila Messaging). I'll do some testing and make sure this is fixed. I consider any email/messaging bugs to be major as many users with this phone are business users. I'll also look into the wallpaper one...

A task29, flash, hard reset should clear any random problems.

Do you mean it needs a position fix? I have never used s2u2 but I'll check it out.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MauriceA:
Hello seeM_ZA, please don't waste time on the wallpaper issue!!

As Tiemen_S pointed out, this is standaard WinMo functionality, which I verified on the latest stock ROM... :o

I am very pleased to read that you will be looking into the email functionality.

Please contact me if you need a beta tester... :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
Unfortunately I already wasted my time on it haha, luckily it only took about a minute :p

Anyways, I tested out the email stuffs with my gmail account. I tried it out on this ROM and another ROM, using both IMAP and exchange (both after hard resets). The outcome was exactly the same:

Reply and Forward works perfectly fine when using Pocket Outlook.

Reply and Forward both don't contain the original message when attempting them from the HTC Sense Mail tab.

I'm gonna try it out on the Stock ROM now...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] smithisize:
Does anybody know how to backup Facebook Tab Authorization and login?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DeathmonkeyGTX:
Lulz @ you folks wondering where to get RAM information. I used to set a widget in SPB Mobile Shell to bring up Control Panel's Memory page, but with BattClock one can view a whole bunch of crap in the title bar and use ~1 kB of RAM. I personally have mine set up to display CPU utilization in percentage, free RAM in MB, and (probably rough estimate) of power draw in mA. It's pretty cool, first found it when I was trying to get clock and battery in the title bar on 21xxx ROMs...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tiemen_S:
I was going to try to test this sometime, but if you do the authorisation with the option "Use default browser & paste code", it could be saved in this location as a regkey:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\FacebookSDK] - Facebook Tab login settings.

or:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\HTCAccountManager] - HTC Settings for YouTube, Facebook and Twitter logins (Note on this one, as was posted here by some unknown-to-me poster: You may have to go to Settings Tab -> Data Services, and Turn the Facebook account OFF, and then back ON again to get profile pic's to show properly thoughout Sense).

I got these 2 entries out of this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=671163

They say it's 'energyROM' related, but hey, 95% of what's there is just Manila/HTC/WinMo stuff!

EDIT: Note this: I wouldn't try filling in the regkeys yourself, because the format could be not the most logic one. Just fill in your settings the normal way and see if they reappear in the regkeys :). Then back up and hope for the best at the next flash :D.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] icythunder:
Explorer

Hi everyone,

how to change explorer button from home screen to something else? Like who needs it every single day? this is bad design by chef
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] schumifer1:
Me for one...

But if you want something else,-> BSB tweaks is the answer

Also, BattClock 3.1 rules the whole universe!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] smithisize:
I really appreciate the time you took to look that up :)

Unfortunately though, I was unable to locate the authorization code anywhere in those reg keys :(

Any ideas?

Regards

Smith
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] genaldar:
No, it doesn't need a position fix. Sometimes the bottom bar, with the two soft keys, partially covers up the S2U2 slider. The bottom bar disappears in a couple of seconds. And it only happens periodically.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dr-Death:
one new question

Hello! I have one new question. if i go to poeplehub and choice 1 people, i can press "Show home on map", but nothing happend??? On an old rom, i have used, google maps opend and shows me the location of my contacts adress. can i fix this within the registry? ( i used the 21680 version from october 3),. thx for answers!

cya dr-death
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tiemen_S:
With me, it definitely saved the code it extract from your "Browser authorization"!

In [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\HTCAccountManager] is a key called "FacebookSecret" that looks just like the "hash" it extracted from the URL I had to paste in. Also FacebookSession, FacebookUserName, FacebookUserID and FacebookAccount show noteworthy contents.

I haven't tested if it works to make XDA_UC put those back in after a flash, but when it's one of the first things I'm going to try next flash. This could be soon because pyrorobs HTCMessaging (latest version) isn't stable enough.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DeathmonkeyGTX:
I'm about to DL your 21680 from 10/3 and rig it up with quickmenu and all the other crap I like, but I have a question for you. I started with a Wizard, then a Hermes, Kaiser, and now Rhodium. I HSPL'd and flashed all of them to hell and back and I've NEVER had a ROM last more than 2 weeks without hard locking or S.O.D. The latest prime example is NRGZ28 21680, and it made it 9 days. Your ROM's do it too, and every other cook across 4 devices. I read about people who leave the same ROM on there for MONTHS and it totally blows my mind. I have friends that want to buy my phone, but there's no way in hell I'd support it for them. Helping folks on here is one thing, but helping my tech-illiterate stoner friends with it would result in a catastrophic stroke.

Before anybody asks, I am OC'ing but that's not the problem. It's been like this since I bought a Kaiser and people were *****ing about Qualcomm making it nigh impossible to OC MSM7200 series. However, it does SOD more when I set it above something between 710.4 and 787.x MHz so I just leave it at 710.4 because it's difficult to notice a difference between 710 and 787 besides the fact that Garmin locks @ 787 every time within one minute without fail. When I get back from work I'll screen cap all the cabs I install from my Cool **** and Autoinstall folders.

Crap I gotta see about getting you on f1ip's mirror... I'm pretty sure he lives nearby because I ping f1ip.net quickly and usually have gotten at least 700 kB/s downloads from his site since my Kaiser days...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] tmccully:
Love this ROM - but . . .

I work at a college and am having a problem connecting to the wireless network - a new problem since flashing 10/3/10 - 21680. This iteration of your work requests that I "choose a certificate to log on" and, after I select "enroll," will not allow me to connect with just my user name and password - I get the message "Server data required, try again?"

- First, at least one of your August or September efforts which I flashed did not present this problem - and I've not seen this on other ROMS I've flashed.

- Second, I am assured by our IT guys (one of whom has the same phone) that no "server" is required and they have no idea what "data" should be input to the third box.

- Third, this is not a unique problem and I did my research before resorting to this thread. This:http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=283380 is just one of the many threads I have found. I tried all of the suggested fixes including registry hacks to no avail.

:confused: Does anyone have any idea what the difference from that earlier ROM might be, or what might be done to work around this issue?

Many thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cletus8:
Hey, i want to change the Simplicity Start screen when phone boots.

where the .BMP is located?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] FL5:
Odd. I'm using the same ROM, and I haven't had any problems connecting to any of my email accounts or the wifi at either my home or university. I don't have an exchange account, though. Is that what you have?

Are you setting up everything fresh after a task29/flash or are you setting up your wifi connections using an xml file in XDA_UC?

Have you tried removing all of your known servers under your advanced settings and then adding 'em back in from scratch?

Can you connect to other wifi access points?

Are you suuuuuuuuuuure you're setting it for the right security/encryption things? Tried all of 'em just to make sure?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DeathmonkeyGTX:
21680 final is working fine for me, but I'm having one issue that's eating 10 MB of my previous LPDDR. NRG has cooked in QuickMenu and enabling it kept gwes.exe to around 13mb after a day and 23 with lockscreen enabled. I grabbed the same version's cab and installed it and set all the settings the same as they were in the energy ROM. However, I'm pretty sure your ROM is keeping the WM 6.5 start menu in memory where it shouldn't be. Any ideas?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] genaldar:
Actually several people requested that the left soft key be changed to that. Disagreeing with design choices is fine, but disparinging the work of someone providing a service for free is assinine.

As for changing it you can use BSB Tweaks, Advanced Config (using this one will break quickshutdown), or simply do a regedit. Here is how mine looks;

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\Manila]

"HomeLSKText"="Camera"

"HomeLSKPath"="\\Windows\\Camera.exe"

On a completely unrelated note, does anyone know of any tweaks to make the GPS connect faster? I've installed Fone Fanatics cab and it doesn't seem to do squat any more. It's especially annoying since I've been trying to use Bing as a replacement since my GPS was stolen a few weeks ago.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] FL5:
Try the Start Menu disabler cabs from the first post of this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=711914

I use the one marked for 6.5 on my 6.5.x roms because it doesn't kill the windows or X softkeys, which I've got assigned to stuff in AMeBa.

Holler if that don't work.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
Stuff I need to look into so far:

Fix Office in 21916

Fix "Show home on map" (Sense/Google Maps integration)

WiFi

I might seem like I'm ignoring some questions but I think they've been answered perfectly by other users (thanks btw :)).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dineshh:
Hi

Again 21680 is gr8 ROM

Its fast and snappy without much of add-ons

Few bugs to report though:

1. Power settings backlight on battery stays at 10 sec only, even after changing and saving the settings.

2. Opera new version is very heavy on memory and more than a tab closes other open programs. I installed opera 35xxx version and I'm able to use 5 tabs even which is main plus point of your ROM

Rest it seems fine at present.

keep up the good work bro
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] schumifer1:
To be honest, it came to me this morning. The rom is beautiful, light, so far so good.

So i guess it deserves an extra "thanks" on my behalf. So another donation.

Thanks friend