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[Liquid S100 Android Development] barbatecla:
I guess the .39 version has some bug. I now I have installed the version .09.
[Liquid S100 Android Development] endariel:
what's the difference between the 2 of em?
[Liquid S100 Android Development] jusgar:
I got my liquid bricked while upgrading

Yesterday, I downloaded this rom from Acer site and started the process as described in the help file. when the process reached around the 75% I got the error message and the liquid bricked.

Need help, please.:mad::mad::mad:

This is the log file
[Liquid S100 Android Development] fasetti77:
Hi, i have installed on my liquid .39 version and i've noticed any bug...

.39 it's ok for me, someone know the difference between the two version?

How can i have the root permissions now that i have upgraded my liquid?
[Liquid S100 Android Development] astuermer:
The difference is the following:

.39 has a bug, that under /data/DxDrm/ several Log files will be written (approx. 10 MB per day). So the program memory gets full more and more.

You can check by checking Settings > SD card & memory > phone memory. it decreases some MB each boot also...

Only solution so far: You need root permission and delete all Log files each day manually.

.09 doesn't have this bug.

No other significant changes.
[Liquid S100 Android Development] fasetti77:
I've installed .09 and works fine, but I've noticed a big problem with mms...I can't send or receive mms, my apn settings are ok but they doesn't go also with apn droid or similar app. Anyone have the same problem?
[Liquid S100 Android Development] jusgar:
Same problem. I cannot send nor receive mms
[Hero, G2 Touch General] cap8000:
currently running froyd and am happy with it just wondered whether someone has experience of both if so whats the differences between the two and which is best overall? Not interested in overclocking or anything really technical. thanks
[Hero, G2 Touch General] MrPadie:
I know someone will say it, so I might as well be first. Rather don't ask people, but instead grab a copy yourself and test it out. It's really based on your own opinion. Each ROM works differently for others.

With features such as nandroid backups these days, there really isn't much of an excuse for not trying out alternative ROMs. If you like it, then keep it. If not, then nandroid back. However, with that said, I think both are on par with eachother and both have achieved outstanding results. It really breaks down to the small things, which you'll need to experience yourself.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] cap8000:
ok thanks 1 problem though cant see an option to download the fusion rom?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Ibanez33:
At this stage its kinda like comparing apples with worms in with pears with worms in..

Yes its different fruit but the bugs are the same..

I haven't tried either so feel free to shoot me down but the reason for this is that I feel devs are focusing on getting everything working (which is a good thing). But because of this I feel theres not really one 2.2 rom that particularly stands out..

I'd love to be proven wrong though!! still rocking out on cm6 nightlies....
[Hero, G2 Touch General] avseq:
both are same

i had fusion first and later came fryod so installed fryod expecting abetter but was really disappointed because both rom turned to be exactly same, same problems in both rom just looked like fryod was a copy of fusion just a different name. now i see fusion got update but fryod is still with same problem.

known issues-

camera is only 3mega pixels

no camera preview and force closes.

crashes when u try to view a flash video

no live wallpaper

no touck key to answer a call.

thiese problems are with both fusion and fryod
[Hero, G2 Touch General] developing:
CyanogenMod 6.0 is the only Froyo ROM there is, and Fusion and Froyd are each tweaks to the CM6 base. Until CM6 is finalized or Feeyo releases his Froyo-from-source ROM, they're all essentially the same. Villain probably has some kernel tweaks, and Fusion too, but all the bugs are all going to be there.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] adwinp:
Untrue.

I will post a wip copy of Hik@Ri in a few hours.

No CM-crap; vanilla source.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] pornogeroc:
wrong in fusion rom have touch key to answer call
[Hero, G2 Touch General] riemervdzee:
Good, just like it should be :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] maxisma:
Dito.

Some more respect to the real developers.

I suspect your ROM will just be another compiled-straight-from-source-and-nothing-else ROM, right?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] riemervdzee:
Hehe, I guess he got a reputation? Please let my previous comment slip then ;)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] adwinp:
Not necessarily, and 2: you misunderstood.

There are a few talented devs around, and I don't understand why everybody's copying CM's work.

CM is a great dev, but what pisses me off in the Hero section, is that everybody's ripping his work instead of trying to get it work on their own.

Innovation, make your own path, NOT imitation.

@orangeclanz:

I've checked your previous posts, and correct me if I'm wrong, but you're not really the best placed to comment whatsoever.

Secondly, nobody forces you to try anything. Just stop *****in'.

For those interested: I've finally fixed an issue with some keybindings; I will upload after a few final touches.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] plun:
Well... I cannot stand the never ending begging for money from Villain and nprussel....

Villain is something like a tabloid newspaper for roms......:p
[Hero, G2 Touch General] dkelley:
anyway, back on topic.

for me, difference is:

fusionrom 2.2 update 4 works great. really solid now. aside from borked camera, once you receive a phone call the trackball light notification works, the froyo-style apps2sd works (with the included cyanogenmod6 improvements allowing any app to be pushed to sd that way). it's very fast (4.5 to 4.7 linpack for me stock withotu the software overclock kernel mod). apps and games run amazingly well on it. has an issue where system.process.media (or similar) fcs after a while and after trying the gallery. I think that might be a gallery issue and maybe will be fixed soon, I don't know though. saw the same issue in froyd once but not again later?

froyd 1.0 works... ok, but it's slow. it has very nice features, the ext partition apps2sd support is nice to have (no manual file moving needed). however there are reasons to like manual moving as well, I'm a control freak, good to let me decide where to put it. but this ext parition method is certainly easier, really fast and transparent. nice. however the kernel is slow, 3.5 linpack (slow for froyo). also lots of random slowdowns. experimental kernel flash works really well and is very fast (got 5.1 linpack at 729 mHz on my phone). I did encounter some issues, not sure if it was my clock speed (which was always fine @ 729 on 2.1 roms but could be the issue still with jit froyo pushing it harder maybe). issues were google nav and some 3d games just quitting without warning and without fc messages. just quitting. google nav was serious, I was driving and it was just... gone after a few minutes. game was annoying, was playing monopoly, 20 minutes of playing, then just gone with no record of gameplay :-(. again that could be my cpu speed setting though, haven't tried further.

both ahve borked camera and no video (since video is just a recording of the screen preview... why on earth can't they write a REAL video recorder for android on the hero??? it should be possible... stupid screen capture video...)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] essbee1958:
Having tried both Froyd and Fusion, I went back to the CM nightly builds. The 20/07 build is pretty much there with everything except the camera and fb sync working. Have sorted this by using camera magic and syncmypix.

for me, this one is fast snappy and definitely the best 2.2 around currently.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] orangeclanz:
@adwinp. U right.I'm not in position to comment here.so do u. Pls show some respect to other dev. As a dump user here.I do appreciate and respect all Dev works. At least I don't called it CRAP.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] maxisma:
Well, then just don't call it CM-crap..

Yes, I agree that there are way too many CM-Mod-mods arround.. And they are all the same +/- some apks.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] adwinp:
Once, more, you're misinterpreting; crap was related to the CM-rips, not CM itself.

I hope I made myself clear.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] dkelley:
by the way, this thread really should be about which is better between:

froyd

fusionrom

cm-nightlies

the cm-nightlies are, imho, ahead of the rest. but they're nightly builds so you take a big gamble when you grab one and install it. However if there is going to be a successful camera fix my bet is that it will come from the cm-nightlies for hero team.

Just saying.... but for me I'm running fusion until some major progress happens from... someone :-)

cheers
[Hero, G2 Touch General] nprussell:
There's no mention of me asking for money, nor have I charged for any release. There's no begging, whatsoever infact. I mention it in my sig - but who doesn't?

I am a bit fed up of all the bad-mouthing I'm getting around here recently. We've not ripped anyone off.

We're in the process of making some pretty major changes/fixes to FroydVillain, and one of our developers is currently re-compiling a Froyo ROM from source - ie, pure vanilla.

As for which ROM is better... they're different. When we release our new kernel, expect over 5 mflops at a stable OC of around 748 Mhz.

Test them both, but before you make a judgement on Froyd, test it with the new (fixed) kernel - which is significantly better than the one Lox released. Ninpo over at the VillainROM forums will be more than happy to explain what makes it significantly faster if anyone's interested!

Anyway... less hate is definitely required around here :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] egzthunder1:
Agreed... less hate is always a good thing :)

Play nice people...

Thread cleaned out.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Psyed:
Agree :)

And the development of good/stable 2.2 roms has just begun. It's far too soon to make a real decision imo. When the 2.2 roms become more stable, then the decision can be made.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Feeyo:
Its funny that every time I see someone from villain being attacked the mods take action...

By the way why does it seem to be so hard to get a stable kernel out for the Froyo builds while you had a stable OC kernel running for your 2.1 builds?

Its only a matter of changing the directory extracted from the boot.img and rebuild it with your vmlinuz.... Bit vague for me...
[Hero, G2 Touch General] developing:
Awesome. I do agree with your points about the devs here using Cyanogen's work so freely; EzHero, VanillaEclair, and CyanogenMod for Hero 5.0.8 are, how shall I say, unsettlingly similar.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ales100i:
Exactly......when Villain team members attacked first Stickman, then RaduG, then Feeyo,.... (and i could on) nobody did anything. But it backfired. Villain team are getting the hate because they were flaming other members here. Before they did this, nobody had any hate for them. Well i guess it's a simple matter of "You reap what you sow!".
[Hero, G2 Touch General] pulser_g2:
This OC kernel has already been out for a couple of days, and it will go into the first .1 update.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Lennyuk:
Yeah for those of you on here willing to put Froyd so low already (on its first release!!!) try it with the new kernel and I am pretty sure you will now be amazed.

Easily getting 5.2mflops at 728 MHz

And this was only improvement number one! expect loads more in the next full froyd release.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Feeyo:
These are normal mflops for Froyo on Hero nothing to be proud of.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Lennyuk:
right ok, so can you see CM6 getting them?

or Fusion

No disrespect to those roms, but I didn't get anywhere near that with the exact same set up.

I was getting 3.6 on Loxes latest alpha of CM6 and I was getting 4.6 on Fusion 4.

So..........
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Feeyo:
Ok I agree on that point.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] nprussell:
Feeyo (aka Shakor): I sense some level of anger from you again. Is that due to your alt forum account being banned?

Most of this hatred/anger/bitterness comes directly from you, feeyo. That's not good, because like it or not, you're quite influential around here.

We had a fall out a while back, and it was resolved. We PM'd one another and sorted it out. Why drag it back down to the childish level we allowed it to get to before?

The mods intervened because we were attacked. Attacked being the key word. This is a discussion forum, not a f****g playground.

Now Feeyo, can we drop this ****e and get back to civility?

I suggest that those *****ing and whining about how crap the Villain team's Froyo ROM is, wait 48 hours, then try the new version. It's a huge improvement over 1.0.0.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] maxisma:
Well, that's because the latest Lox builds and Nightlys have a bug in the kernel, so it's showing that it is OCed, even though it's not.

I replaced the kernel with the old-hacked-together kernel @710 Mhz and get ~ 4,8 MFlops with many processes running in the background.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] pulser_g2:
Yeah, that's what we found. Appears not to have the actual OC modifications.

Threw me at first when I looked and got same linpacks, till ninpo and kendon found the issue and fixed it :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Feeyo:
Fail. Shakor was not me :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Lennyuk:
hmmmmmmmmmmm
[Hero, G2 Touch General] docertabum:
I look forward to see adwinp's (most self-confident dev) 2.2 ROM then...
[Hero, G2 Touch General] nprussell:
Twas but a guess.

Anyway, by the by.

All I'm getting at is, don't politely PM me one day, then badmouth me on the forum the next. What's the point?

Just get on with your own work and leave us to ours. Surely that's the answer to all of this crap?

This is all just a hobby we do for fun, after all :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Feeyo:
Dont point any fingers dude. Be f*****g warned.

I really have had it with this sh!t.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Luciano.00:
or mounted on the stunning Roma Frøya my hero and I am very happy only trivial problem and the camera or resolved by downloading a fix for market rates and that's fine

I state that I am a novice in the field, but I think with a few tweaks to be great, thanks to the
[Hero, G2 Touch General] nprussell:
Surely that's taking it a bit too far?

All I asked for is for you to be civil with us.

Why go and take it one step further again?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] maxisma:
You are going too far, too.

Stop being so childish, and just don't answer if you think he's wrong.

(Feeyo, you should do the same.)

All these flame wars make XDA look like a kindergarten.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] rbrucemtl:
I'm not in a competition here and I work on Fusion ROM for myself and share it with XDA members. If people don't think it's fast enough or good enough I do not really care. It's just a hobby and I have a full time job and a life so I don't gain or loose anything here.

I don't take claim to CyanogenMOD code but it is open source so why is it a bad thing that some developers fork or use it as a base for their own path?

CyanogenMOD uses Android sources as a base... does that make them less of developers because they did not write Android themselves from scratch?

Also this thread is pointless because Cyanogen, Fusion and Froyd are all in testing and have not had time to grow.

Good luck to all the Devs out there... lets enjoy our hobbies without the BS.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Lennyuk:
yes, this is exactly my point early, thanks for posting similar :)

And I never meant anything bad when I said it was slower, I understand fully that these roms are all in development but at least people can now hear from a source other than me that we are all basing our roms on CM at the moment.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] nprussell:
What an immensely sensible post.

Hats off to you sir.

@ Maxisma; I think I've been particularly calm considering some of the allegations made in this thread. I'm no bully, and I don't have an issue directly with Feeyo... I just can't stand all of this hatred. As you rightly say, it makes this look like a playground full of kids.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] jell:
btw. why both roms has irssi, tcpdump onboard? (both combined are more than 3,6M waste on flash)

and is there anybody who's using nfs on phone? if not - what is the reason for nfs kernel modules?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Feeyo:
What hatred? I was just stating its funny every time villain gets some negative feedback you guys (villain) go crying to the mods to remove this "troll" and his posts.

These are my last comments towards you and VillainROM in anyway.

Next time I see any of you **** heads spamming my irc channel like little kids again or some posts about me or Cronos I will take serious actions.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] egzthunder1:
Ohh... where to start?

To begin... this thread was posted in the wrong section, so I moved it to General "slaps the OP's wrist"

Now, to the heart of the matter.

@Feeyo,

Please watch your language. Also, please stop threatening people.

@nprussell

Same request for you on the cursing. If there are issues between you and Feeyo, please keep it outside of the forums. You guys can "respectfully" argue via pm, so you guys don't get everyone and their grandmother involved in this.

I am not pointing fingers here on who started what, but this is getting old. It seems as it only takes a fly flying close enough to either of you to set you guys off.

Just stay away from each other's business from now on.

Since this thread has deviated tremendously from its original intent (and I think it will be pointless cleaning it up, aside from cleaning up language), I will simply close it.

Again, stay out of each other's business.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] egzthunder1:
The RP did not come from Team Villain.
[Vibrant General] androidsalah:
Just discovered what seems to be a bug/incompatibility with calendar invites that are sent from Outlook 2010 do not display the time and date information for a meeting on my Vibrant. However, if a meeting is sent using Outlook 2003 (I haven’t tested 2007), the full meeting information is displayed properly.

Is this Android 2.1 incompatibility or just with Samsung Vibrant implementation?

Much appreciate any input

Cheers…
[Vibrant General] AraqirG:
Just an FYI, I'm having this issue (along with another co-worker) and we both have HTC Evo's.

We are running 2.2 (froyo) and have the same exact issue. Invites from 2003 or 2007 work fine, but invites sent from Outlook 2010 have a blank body (no information regarding the date or time of the meeting).

We are also running Office 2010. Hope this info helps.
[Vibrant General] sridhar618:
I have a ticket opened to android at http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=15666
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lordcyrus:
Is there any way to disable Always On Mobile Data in 2.2? Currently running CM6's latest Nightly.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dglowe343:
It's in settings under wireless settings I think. I restored my old backup earlier so I can't check, but I know I saw it.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Philosuffer:
Haven't found it yet either.

In the mean time, I'm using Juicedefender from the market, which turns off 3G/Wifi when the screen is off and you can set it so that 3G/Wifi come back on for 30s/1min/2min every 5m/10m/15m/30m/1hr/2hr for data to sync and then it shuts 3G/Wifi back off.

Has a couple other battery saving options too.

Without Juicedefender my battery dropped from 93% to 70% overnight (about 8-9 hours).

With Juicedefender my battery dropped from 93% to 90% overnight. (Had set 3G/Wifi to be completely disabled between the times of 12midnight - 7:30am)

Also, it automatically turns off Wifi when you are out of range/not connected to a network.
[Legend General] legendskas:
Hi there,

I broke my touch screen and tried to replace it by myself.

To make a long story short, I failed miserably (I broke the screen under).

However, I learned a few things I didn't met in the forum.

A- Disassembly of the case.

1- The Legend is glued. So, you have first to use hoven to melt the glue before being able to do anything useful.

15min/ 60 degree in the oven. Or use an hair dryer (I used the former).

2- Don't forget to remove ALL the screws (even the one behind the IMEI notice).

3- Don't try to open the camera lid before loosening the glue or you'll damage the aluminium body.

4- You have to unplug all the différent cables, so take notes to remember where all of them goes.

5- You must disassemble all the boards. There are 2 boards. One supporting the sim / SD connector, and one supporting the screen/touchscreen.

6- When disassembling the screen board, remove it by pulling the touchscreen at the bottom, and lift it up. don't pass a tool on the sides to remove it or worse, under the touchscreen, you'r tool will touch the screen under and break it (like I did). The screen is very, very fragile

Now, I'm stuck here because I can't remove the connector of the legent which is passed under the shield on the back of the screen.

I'm not able to remove the screen so I would like to know how to remove this shielding or get back the touchscreen connector to be able to replace it.

Once I figure out how to remove this shiled, I may be able to remove the screen too.

But now, I'm clueless (it was 2 in the morning when I gave up).

Maybe, some of you knew the trick to open this phone further.

I'd like to hear about it.
[Legend General] legendskas:
A little up to my post for the ones who did not read it till the end:

I can't remove the connector of the legend which is goind under the shield on the back of the screen.

I would like to know how to remove this shielding or get back the touchscreen connector to be able to replace it.

Once I figure out how to remove this shield, I may be able to remove the screen too.

But now, I'm clueless (it was 2 in the morning when I gave up).
[Legend General] Tytanium:
mate it sounds like you have trashed your phone.they are built NOT to be taken apart.They require special tools and process to be repaired. The only thing i would suggest is contacting your insurance company and let them know that your phone was crushed under a car or something and then crush it under the car and you can get it replaced. If you dont have insurance, take some out and make a claim in say a month or two.

Its not an honest thing to do but your phone sounds busted and its the cheapest way of replacing that handset.

Post a pic of it if you can

:)
[Legend General] legendskas:
Unfortunately, I have no rights to post a link or some put some pics.

Something about spam and profile that should be reviewed before being able show any pics.

This device is glued. No specialized tools are able to open it without removing it.
[Legend General] Chapell:
That would mean that the phone cannot be repaired, only replaced. My phone's motherboard was replaced, so at the service stations they should have special tools.
[Legend General] jimwal2008:
Fixed it!

Bottom right hand corner:

Bend the shielding back just enough to allow you to slip the connector in & then use a little glue to stick it back.

Maybe I was lucky, but my phones working as good as new again :)
[Legend General] joak0068:
I would like to see some photos too :) But I'm never gonna take my phone apart - can't see the point ;)
[Legend General] m.bakker:
Foto's

Nice thread, i myself am wondering, if a better gsm antenna can be fixed inside the phone. and connect them to the 2 connections.

Do you have any pictures of the inside housing etc?

:)
[Vibrant Android Development] blueman9:
Does anyone know where to find an ADV for the Vibrant? Thanks.

Edit: Meant to say AVD.
[Vibrant Android Development] zimphishmonger:
What do you mean by "ADV"?

If you mean ADB, its the same for all Android 2.1, look at one of the FAQs for installing ADB. You also need to download Samsungs Drivers for the Galaxy S for the device to be detected, and you MUST enable USB debugging in options of the phone.

Hope that helps!