yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] FL5:
I haven't used either without CHT 2.0, which I have been running steadily since the day the beta hit. So, yeah, stuff works. Check the very next post in that thread for instructions on using that start menu with AMeBa/CHT2 softkeys.

Linky~

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=792303

There were noted issues with SMS/MMS in some of the mid-summer builds. Upgrade to the latest one. Stuff works.

Signal is the same for me with this rom or any of a handful of others. This is not an issue with this rom. You could try possibly using a different radio version and seeing if that helps, or it could just be that service in your area isn't fantastic.

Works just fine in the US. :D

Seriously though, this has been discussed to death not only in this thread but in several others as well lately. Do some searching.

I don't really remember roms from july giving me random lockups, so that may well be something that you've modified or loaded in. However, I do recommend loading a more up-to-date version. The latest one is pretty nice.

Cheers!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] igi_sako:
Thx seem for this great rom :

i am facing kinda of problems ;

1 - when using oera mini every now and then get " out of memory close some taps " msg and i only work on one tap and closed all programs

2 - call history disappear

3- i dont like viewing msgs as conversations cuz it;s too slow

4 - cant run windows media player while using opera browser

Thax
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ace10134:
#1 and #4 are simply results of using Sense 2.5, since it is very memory intensive, on any ROM.

#3 Open the messaging app, go to Menu, then Tools I believe, and finally look for an option called Traditional View.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] igi_sako:
i didnt get what i need at all

even the msg option

thanks any way
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] guitarmaniatico:
I tryed a LOT of roms ... and yeah I have the disorder too.... but let me tell you this rom is ****ing awesome, very fast, good memory usaghe, low battery consumption, very beautiful .... the best!!!

It surpasses Energy, and others, in my humble opinion!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] uamis:
Seem

Not sure what fixes may be needed on the latest beta rom. Thus the question of a cab for all fixes. not sure all the items people have found. I am going to flash this latest beta. Since its still in beta I wasn't sure it was okay to flash. Not a power user so I'm hoping don't ahvea ny problems.

Please let me know if there ianything I may need to edit after flash, ie landscape doesn't work with pictures or surfing or with text messages.

I will add the mms and keybaoard fixes necessary for ATT tilt2 phones but anything else you can think of they may need "fixing" please advise.

Thanks,, for all your work man... can't wait to see what your "final" version is.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ace10134:
Oh sorry, I was thinking of HTC's messaging client.

So to get to the traditional non-threaded texting, you can try this CAB http://mediafire.com/?va12bz5z3j0

Or search XDA for "how to disable threaded SMS". Any info on WM 6.1 will work with 6.5
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] FL5:
Uh, you don't need to install anything to change a setting... :confused:

Under the manila settings tab, hit up "Other" and then "SMS Threading." Switching that to "Classic" will stop it from threading.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] uamis:
remove missed calls ?

Hello All,

This is a total noobie question.. I just flashed the current simplicity beta nov 4th I beleive. So basically if we get a missed call the led flashes. However any way to get rid of this or view missed calls without going into phone?

Liking the rom alot so far.. awesome rom!!!! Just gotta see what it can do now.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] schumifer1:
What is the registry key that changes the value for gsm time sync so that i can put it in the same cab as the registry edits to have it for every install (xda_uc)?:confused::confused::confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
If all goes well there will be an update on all versions today, with CHT1.8.5 being replaced by CHT2.0 :]
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] FL5:
You tease! Now my ORD twitch is acting up again...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tiemen_S:
Nice! CHT2.0 isn't installed very stable for me somehow. At least when trying to install that start menu replacement FL5 mentioned. When I press my taskbar on the top left end it opens that thing, but not when pressing the real start button on 21680, which is placed at the left bottom ^^,

Maybe a cooked in version will prevent some of those problems! I'll also leave out the advanced notifications, I have the feeling CHT2.0 and this cab are a double fix for that.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hskeik:
Dear seeM_ZA, can you please upload clean (titanium) version, please?

P.S.

don't forget pkease MMS :)

Eid Mubarak ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
I think the problem you're mentioning is the start menu replacement not CHT..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] turtle2472:
I love it. I just flashed my phone last night to the early November version and am loving it so far. Thank you for your hard work! I look forward to your next version.

Question: do you modify how XDA_UC operates like Energy or do you use the stock settings?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] FL5:
Do not use the installer from the first post. It has been abandoned. Use the installer from post 131 of that thread.

Use the instructions from post 132 to hook it with the windows key on the bottom left or with a CHT2 softkey.

With that setup, it's pretty stable and fully functional for me. Lemme know if you can't get it to work. Maybe I can post my reg keys in a pack for you to import or something.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
I'm glad you like it!

I changed a few small things in XDA_UC only. Just optimised it to run a little faster and smoother I guess. What features do Energy ROMs have in their XDA_UC that you would like me to add? 'Cause if you let me know, I'm sure I'll be able to add them too :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] FL5:
Seem: NRG uses a bit more of a stripped-down version. It requires a mortscript file to copy files over to the device memory, and doesn't prompt for reboot after completion. I prefer the way you set yours up.

He does have a separate settings exporter/importer program that grabs a lot of stuff out of the registry, but that's outside of XDA_UC.

Turtle: You don't need to run a mortscript to copy files over. Just put what you want copied in a folder titled "copy2root" in your XDA_UC folder.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] turtle2472:
Actually, I'm not looking for any difference features but the way apps are installed to the SD card doesn't work on your ROM like it does his. I just want to be sure to set up my card to work right. I had to learn his method but would rather it be as XDA_UC intended.

Kind of a pain to learn different ways to do one thing.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
Well I didn't change any of that soo it should work how XDA_UC used to. I'm curious, how does it work on his ROMs? :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] igi_sako:
Seem plz help me !!

1 - got "out of memory > close some taps " when using oera browser

2 - call history disappear

3 - i dont like viewing msgs as conversations

4 - what is xda_us ?

5- how to free memory ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] turtle2472:
I have cabs in my XDA_UC\SD\ folder that don't install on your ROM but that's where they had to go on his ROM. I'm looking to have them do the silent install to my SD card. I've been using Energy for so long now that I forgot how it is supposed to be on a normal XDA_UC setup.

They weren't silent installs to the SD on his ROM though. I had to interact. I'm pretty sure I remember seeing the base configuration allows for silent install to the SD card.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
There's a link in the second post for this stuff :p

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=7448702&postcount=284

Hope it helps! :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] turtle2472:
Perfect! Thank you very much. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
1. Hmphh I've never had that, it could be the version of Opera I cooked in...

2. Huh?

3. I dont think you can view it any other way using Manila messaging. There might be a registry fix somewhere for Windows mobile messaging. Or you could install HTC's messaging app.

4. XDA_UC is User customization. It automatically installs cab files and other customization files off of your SD Card on every hard reset.

5. You could try going for one of the alternative start menu's posted in this thread and all over the forum. That would probably help the most. Use CleanRAM every now and then if you don't want to soft reset too often. If you really just want lotsa RAM and don't mind losing Sense, then disable Sense. Also don't use Co0kie's home tab version of ROMs as that takes a little bit more RAM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tiemen_S:
1. Don't know how much you've opened, but I have to try pretty hard to get that error. Maybe you're doing/running to many things at a time? It's not very advisable and neither was it before to for example: play music, have your photo album not properly closed and then go browsing in opera. Your phone has limitations!

2. This ROM has Sense 2.5 instead of what you're used to on your factory stock ROM probably. The old one had a call history tab and a seperate programs tab. In this newer version you have to try a little harder to get to your missed calls. When you have one, you can click your taskbar (upper bar thing) and click the notification saying you missed one.

3. Don't know what messaging you have. In HTC's one it's just somewhere in the menu. The one cooked in on this ROM by default could handle this stuff another way. I always replace it with HTC, but that's a personal taste.

4. If you have a memory card, you can put installation files (known as .cab) in there and it will install these automatically on your next ROM flash. It has quite some extra options, but you'll have to figure those out if you're interested.

5. There's multiple ways. Closing apps when you don't needing them is the most important thing to do. Also keeping your tweaks and modifications on a low level will help running things as smooth as intended. It's also possible to overclock your device, but that has nothing to do with the ROM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] FL5:
BTW Seem, just wanted to check in and see if you were cooking in the email/notification fix that was already posted for cht2.

NRG forgot to cook it in; wanted to make sure you didn't. :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
Lol I did, and the files are already being uploaded so I'll leave it for next time ;). I thought this might happen but I'm sure there'll be more fixes and add-ons etc that'll come out for CHT2. I'll obviously add all the fixes to a cab/service pack. And once I see which add-ons people really like I'll cook those in. Just give it some time to settle you know ;) Thanks for pointing that out though.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DeathmonkeyGTX:
I get the Out of Memory errors with opera 9.7 less in the 11/4 ROM as opposed to the 10/18? ROM. However, it's never actually out of memory. My phone has been on for about 9 hours and I'm still sitting at 97MB free RAM...Even with a few tabs open in Opera it never gets below 40 or 50MB free. I have 6GB of almost 2,000 MHz in my desktop so the .288 on the phone lends itself to spending a long time hunting for good memory management. I'm happy with it now except for those seemingly random and definitely erroneous out of memory errors...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] FL5:
No out of memory errors here with Opera 10, even when I run it stupid with 8 tabs open.

Might be time to upgrade? Mayyyyyyyybe?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
Yeah, must be the opera build I'm using then.

I remember saying this before but I'll say it again :p. Try different Opera builds from here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3380383&postcount=2 and let me know which one(s) work really well? It'd really be helpful.

All ROMs uploaded :] Check first post

I except that there might be bugs / slip-ups on my part. I just didn't wanna upload ANOTHER beta so I jumped right to it (^^,) Hope you guys enjoy.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bigchrizzieboy:
awesome :)

Hi,

Great you've cooked all new ROMs

I was playing with a 28244 Rom and it's fast :)

Will download/flash/upload this evening ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] schumifer1:
Hey Seem, how is your rom with cht2 cooked in behaving compared to cht 1.8.5 cooked in?

Also do you know which the registry key is that changes the value for gsm time sync so that i can put it in the same cab as the registry edits to have it for every install (xda_uc)?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dr-Death:
THX, i will download & flash this rom now. I will report tomorrow. :D:D:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
It uses less RAM than 1.8.5 and even seems faster in my opinion. I've also thrown together a cab that changes it to seem exactly like 1.8.5 (look-wise) but it still performs better. Lemme know if u want that cab.

Sorry I don't know about the timesync key :o
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dr-Death:
My first Impression: smooth, very fast, very good ram-use. Good Work! :) i will donate you a beer :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
I don't drink, but a coffee's always appreciated ;) I'm glad you like it!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] n'oliv:
I've just Flash my Tp 2 with your new built with CHT2 and translated it in french (like previous versions...:D). Now I've IDS_internet or IDS_internet instead of Internet, Email...Is there a language pack.

Thanks for your help, Your job is very nice.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dr-Death:
I love coffee too :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] schumifer1:
ME WANTZZZZZZZ .cabbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Also, in other news, rapidshare links uploaded

http://rapidshare.com/files/431102492/simplicity_15_November_21887CHT.7z

http://rapidshare.com/files/431107711/simplicity_15_November_28244CHT.7z
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] uamis:
noob question

seem or who ever can answer this.

Quick question can someone tell me which system build is 6.5 and which one is 6.5.x

Or are both the same.

Thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] FL5:
lol. Just edit your stuff to look like 1.8.5! I'll assume by now that you know what that looks like. The key is to select the "independent page count" setting and then reduce widget pages to one, and the put quicklink pages at however many you like. I use 3. Also, for dragging stuff around, I've found that it helps to up the pixel snap so that stuff stays in line. I think i put mine at 10.

21887 is the 6.5 choice.

28244 is 6.5.x

Those crazy SYS numbers! Just keep goin' nuts!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] smithisize:
Just flashed, will edit this as soon as I have a decent impression! :D

Pretty excited for 28xxx build :D

Regards

Smith

Edit: I'm liking it! Like always, impressive! I like how smoothly CHT 2 runs cooked in! Sense 2019 is nice and smooth too.

A BIG bonus: for whatever reason, this release is agreeing MUCH BETTER with swype! :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] turtle2472:
Loving this ROM. It's far faster and run more smoothly than any Energy ROM I've used. Really makes me love my phone again! I was just about to start to find a replacement phone but now I have no need! I'm in love again. :)

Really, thank you for your work. Maybe I'll even go ahead to the Nov 15th version! :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] gazsyka:
28244

thank you this build :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hskeik:
@seeM_ZA Dear friend, waiting for clean version (Titanium) with MMS, please
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] genaldar:
I installed 28244 with CHT and my start button is on bottom, I thought it was the 6.5.x build.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] FL5:
Start button on bottom is 6.5.x, which for the 11/15 set is 28244.

Start button on top is 6.5, which is 21887.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] FL5:
Having flashed the 28244 version, I can verify that it does have the Titanium interface cooked in, and that it scrolls with buttery smoothness.

Mmmmm... Butter...

Uh, right. So, just go to the Today settings and check "Windows Default" to load it up into Titanium instead of loading Sense. Since sense won't be loading, it doesn't really matter that it's in the ROM, as it won't be pulling any resources beyond the storage space to hold the files.

It may not be a "clean" version, but this ROM is ridiculously lightweight anyway, so you're really not losing out on a ton of main device storage space from it.

Hmm... Now I'm tempted to screw around in Titanium to see what I can come up with.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] genaldar:
Apparently my brain went upstairs for a nap and left some idiot in charge.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] crownvn:
your guide are very good!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hskeik:
Thanks, I know that, but I don't like Manila for many reasons, and it takes many ROM MEMORY, so without it I can save near 30 MB or even more ... :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
I also got that temptation to screw around in Titanium before. It never ends well, lol. Titanium just completely lacks the functionality that Sense has. At the moment I'm using CHT2 + Sense with most tabs disabled. I use Home, music, twitter and facebook tabs. My messaging is in the form of a widget in CHT2. It runs pretty well like this :). The photo/music tabs use lotsa RAM when loaded, so if you don't use them I'd advise you to disable them.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
Just cleaned up the front page a little :). I want it to be as user-friendly as possible, while still being pretty.

Thanks to turtle2472 and Dr-Death for their generous donations! <3 you guys much :)

Also, Eid Mubarak to all those who might be celebrating it today and tomorrow as well. And I finish my exams on Monday *yay* (^^,)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] igi_sako:
Thx seem Eid mobarak alik (To you also )
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hskeik:
Eid Mubarak (Happy feast) :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dr-Death:
I don´t know the holiday, but wish you all the best! :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] uamis:
volume increase in earpiece 6.5.x nov 15th no cht

Hello all.

Seem I just flashed your rom and man I love it.. be looking out for some more coffee money from me. Knowing you got exams and other thngs occurring. I greatly personally appreciate your work on the new roms.

One question and not a rom build question but I am trying to increase the volume onthe earpiece from what it is curently to something higher. I have looked and search but nothing.. I tried the fixes suggeste but they miss up the ringtones. do you guys know of anything that would work ohe 6.5.x build that will help increase the in-call earpiece volume.

Thx.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] FL5:
Ugh, I know! The interface is just so temptingly austere and aesthetically pleasing. It glides so nice and smoothly while still allowing for full-res backgrounds, and there's just something about the 'nothing but text' setup that appeals to me. Problem is that the temptation to add crap tends to sneak in, and most of the add-in tabs for Titanium are either overbloated, underfunctional, or both, which means heavy reliance on the memory-hogging start menu.

However, before I discovered custom roms, back when I was still on AT&T's bloatware abomination, I used the Titanium setup pretty handily as a way to get around that rom's limitations, so it's something that I tend to want to wander back around to every now and again. There's a little free program in the marketplace called 'Home Screen Customizer' that adds in a rather lightweight weather tab and a program tab that has 4 tappable icons on one screen (swipable to 4 more). Using that, Titanium really did most of what I use my phone for. Since it's free on the market, I figure there's no harm in posting the cab for it, so I'll go ahead and attach it.

Still, yeah, CHT is the boss these days. I only run the twit, calendar, & weather tabs, with whatever else disabled in the registry using Jackos' little trick of adding an x to the dll filename. It beats the pants off titanium, but it doesn't run full-res backgrounds worth a poot, and it doesn't stop me from getting a bit wistful for the old setup.

Hold the volume up key while in a call! lol. If you don't want to bother a real person while you're setting it, do what I do and call voicemail while you jiggle around with it.

Seem: Looks like it defaults to the lowest in-call volume on a fresh flash! Hah! Guess that didn't get ironed out after all.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] tmccully:
XDA_UC

I will add my thanks, Seem, for the new releases. Maybe it's because your ROMs have been so light and fast from the beginning that I don't perceive a difference between 21683 and 28244.

What I did notice is that XDA_UC installed the cabs in \Storage to the device instead. My XDA_UC folders on the storage card have not changed over the last few flashings and have, before now, yielded the desired result. Did this happen to anyone else?:confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
I just tested it and its on the highest in-call volume.. :?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] tmccully:
FL5 - can you explain the "adding an x to the dll filename" trick - or provide a link to Jacko's? Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
Just tested it and you're right, which is strange 'cause I never changed anything in XDA_UC either.. I'll try and fixit ASAP.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
Well I found the problem.. It could've been caused by the new SYS. I'm not sure how to fix it just yet..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tiemen_S:
What's wrong exactly? I'm going to flash this evening, but thought xda_uc always installed to my phone memory?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
I actually didn't find the problem.. Thought I did..

Well there's an option to put the cabs in XDA_UC\STORAGE folder so that they install to storage card but it's not working. It just installs to phone memory anyways. I'm working on fixing it though..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] tmccully:
TMOUS Keyboard & 28244

Never mind - all's well.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] n'oliv:
I've sold my problem with IDS_... in Manilla, I've installed a manilla language pack...

I've got an other problem, since older Rom (3th september) time increase hours too much...

I've tried every thing but nothing works, does someone have this problem ?