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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Grumps:
IT does but not for outlook only for gmail and the others. The only one i found that threaded email works for outlook/exchange is 23569. Leme just make sure im not talking rubbish ill flash 23134 and check quickly and post some screen shots

23569 screen shot attached will do the other one just now busy flashing
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
Kewl :) Let me know how it goes. If it doesn't work for exchange, try this and let me know if it fixes it: http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7403883&postcount=12
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Grumps:
Ok

Tried that but still no luck with these files as well as you can see
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] J_M_H:
When I looked at the registry, the path did not match the install directory. I fixed it and all is good.

Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
What was the path before you changed it?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] turtle2472:
Small question: Does the 23xxx version of the ROM have WiFi Router of some sort in it?

It's one of the features I like from NRGZ but am wanting to try come "cleaner" ROMs and the name alone here looks promising. I've gone through the first few pages and the last 10 or so but haven't seen anything about a WiFi hotspot app built it. I use mine all the time and really need it either in cab form or cooked in. NRGZ spoiled me and cooked it in though.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] FL5:
Yes, wifi router is cooked in and accessible through the comm manager.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] husam666:
*"Homer Simpson Whispering": Don't tell jackos I'm trying this :):o
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Trying what? :> :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] husam666:
LOL

NOTHING,:p

You should make Jackos-Simplicity ROM :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Haha, kudos to seeM, he's doing great work here.

No way, my ROM has totally different goals I guess :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tumdace:
PimBackup (to restore my contacts/messages)

CleanRAM
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Mnementh666:
T-Mo keyboard and MMS cabs

Setup WIFI

Disable vibration in Sense

Disable auto updates on Weather

Set ringtone and sounds for sms mms and such

Change power settings for screen timeouts

Use MyPhone and Google Sync (exchange) for SMS and contacts

Disable tabs: Internet, Calendar, Stocks, Photos, Music, Twitter

SPB MS3 :o (I like Sense, but MS always draws me back for some reason)

Couple of games

Pretty much all I can think of offhand...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] keeshond:
Running the July 27th ROM. We'll test it tomorrow.

My settings are in my signature.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tumdace:
Can someone compare the July 27th 23121 (or even just comment on it seperately) to the July 25th 21911 build?

Ive been loving the 21911 build, but the 23121 build is better for WinMo cause I got fat fingers :).

Actually, since using swype, im absolutely loving it (never tried it before installing this rom) and thinking I may just stick with this current build.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] genaldar:
My only sim contacts are T-Mobile specific ones, like balance check, minute check and text check. So they're named Balance, Minutes and Text. Whats happening is the contacts are still who I set them for, they have the same picture and everything, but rather than a contact being labled Daniel (for instance) it will say Minutes. It still calls the correct person, it's apparently just the lable that is wrong.

This is on the contacts tab. I know I've mentioned that, I just wanted to make sure so there is no confusion as to where the issue is.

Also for some reason when my phone comes out of sleep I will sometimes get a message box saying unable to connect or the phone will be on the login info page. This doesn't happen every time, but it's happaned a couple of times for each. And my connection works, so I have no idea what's going on.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] genaldar:
Set up sync with Google

set up mms (on the off chance my brother sends me a picture right that minute)

set up wifi

Install programs (Advanced Config, Bing, BsB tweaks, Coreplayer, marketplace, MSVC, Omarket, Opera Mini, Slide2Shutdown, T-Moible Keyboard Fix)

Install apps from Marketplace and Omarket

Copy over IE Favorites and My Documents folders

Set up Facebook, Twitter and Youtube

Set ringtones for contacts and system

Set tabs and change options (Weather to F, set contacts, set programs on quicklinks)

Go through Advanced Config and BsB tweaks (no set of tweaks, I know em when I see em)

Set username and password in Operamini for my bookmark transfer

Move stuff around on the main home screen

I think thats it. Oh and after a few days I install Microsoft reader. I'm almost done with a book on it and I really want to finish one of these days. Thats usually when I set up my other email accounts as well.

btw I realized I never said it, but thanks for all the hard work on this rom. We all appreciate it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] nasapunk88:
Setup: (done way to much so pretty much have it down to around 10mins to get everything working now lol)

Active Sync exchange server (gmail)

Wifi to my house network

Install ATT Tilt 2 Keyboard

Advanced Config- file system chache size 128kb, enable all power management, disable auto deploy SIP(keyboard),Htc animation Startup WAV to nothing (no sound )

Disable tabs-Stocks, Photos, Music

Setup Favorite people in Sense

Setup Data Services- Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, Weather and enable Sync internet time

Enable AGPS

Disable Feedback/Error reporting

Edit QuickLinks in Sense back to my normal

Download QuickGPS data

Change AMeBA X button tap to minimize and close to hold down

Change Owner info

Use RhodiumKbdControl to remap PTT button to Camera etc

Setup apps/enter all logins-facebook, msn messenger, Opera (login to basic websites to autosave logins also), Omarket,Marketplace,IM+,Google Maps,clean Ram,Skyfire,WMwifirouter,+ like 50more from XDA_UC

Install and Load Blizzard Authenticator into Esmertec Jbed (yay WOW)

Install WifiNoStandy(keeps wifi connected during sleep-for IM+ etc to stay connected)

Looking at that what would be nice also is if there is a way to Save/backup Opera Autologins/Bookmarks. I live off of Roboform on PC and hate not having on phone. Closest is Opera save feature and would be great to be able to transfer between Roms.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jdep1:
im likeing the rom been testing it for 2 days. thanks for your hrd work. please dont get it blowded with apps (everybody likes different setups) the less apps the better for custumization & ofcourse memory.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] doublen1:
Agreed, this is probably the lightest sense 2.5 rom I've seen yet. It actually has everything I need and nothing I don't. After installing a few programs it has been running very smooth for me. :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] skyrebel:
Installed the 27th 23673 version yesterday. For you first rom this is mighty impressive. Just a few remarks/questions:

The fonts in SMS/MMS are really big. This is probably just a setting, but i can't find it. Is there a way for me to set it to a smaller font??

In notifications (sounds and notifications) a can't set the "flash light" option for "new sms" and "new mms". Don't know if this is a bug or a choice you made. Personally I would like to set these to "no limit".

Keep up the good work!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] nackas:
Flashed the 27/7 23121 ROM today, and have been very happy with the performance. No bugs as of yet! Great work again.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] nasapunk88:
thats weird, my txt is extremely small in the old messages(regular in the new HTC one) lol so must be some setting
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] skyrebel:
I am talking only about the sms input/creation screen, both receipient and the actual sms are in big fonts. In the sense sms tab and the threaded sms overview the fonts are normal.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] nackas:
Have you checked in the Settings > System > Screen settings for the font sizing?

Set it to the size you like, and when you go in to the SMS screen again, use the zoombar to lower/increase the size again.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] nasapunk88:
wow i never even noticed that setting since sense ui or the zoombar did that! sweet tyvm =)

happen to know where to find the Power info timers (total time usage for calls, standby, total etc). Its in the OEM tilt 2 Power-> Info tab but not in any of these new ones =(. or even an app that functions same way.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] skyrebel:
No didn't look there, was under the impression that was only for screen allignment. Well, live and learn haha. Thx mate.

In SMS screen the zoombar doesn't do anything. Not a biggie since the font size is changed via the above mentioned settings window.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
Thanks guys (^^,)! I really hope I've squished all them bugs :p

If you want to add this picture to your sig in support of my ROM,

just add the following text to your sig. Use it how you wish (^^,)

[URL="http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=734399"][IMG]http://uploads.co.za/files/efqiqaldvc7063xnfb9w.png[/IMG][/URL]
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stylez:
Nice job :) Very smooth and good on resources using the 21911.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DJGonzo:
Hey seem, continue the good work! Try to build a ROM with 2016 and no CHT and see hwo that goes. Good luck
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DutchDanny:
Been working on july 27 for 1 day now, great job... Keep it up.

Here are some sreens:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] J_M_H:
Hello seeM_ZA. The path was \Windows. But, I tried reinstalling CHT Editor to fix the problem, so this may have caused the path difference, since the installer puts it into \Program Files\CHTEditor.

Unfortunately, I may also have "shot myself in the foot" by using an old Manila registry backup. Still checking that, but if I did, I'm very sorry about wasting your valuable time (better spend cooking new ROMS).

Bottom line is that if CHT Editor is installed in \Windows and the reg path is \Windows when the ROM initializes, all should be good. I'll try and stop XDA_UC from running automatically and check this out next ROM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
Wouldn't have been able to without your help, so thanks ;)

I think it's very rare that chef's should team up.. My idea of a chef is someone who shares what he/she likes so that others who like the same thing may benefit from it (many chef's lose that idea though :rolleyes:). And me and Jackos just like different things I guess :p

CHT editor installs to program files\... but I cook it into Windows to avoid creating unnecessary duplicates (most chefs do this). Sooo yeah, as long as it matches the path...

No need to apologise :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
seeM, random question if you know what I mean: Did you see the theme sencity? Not my taste with this purple overall and this lockscreen without appointments, but maybe you consider talking to the designer? I mean ROM cooking stuff of course.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
Yeah I did, and I'm definitely considering it. I'm sure the purple as changable is it's just the wallpaper :? I, personally, think the theme would look absolutely amazing on a darkish gray background, or even a white one. I'll contact him :) Thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] smithisize:
Strange bug:

When hilighting text towards the left of the screen, the SIP drops and it says "Would you like to save to drafts?" And tries to exit texting.

Also, when using swype, every now and then when I hit the space button, it drops me to start menu. Never had this happen before.

A few sense crashes after exiting texting too.

Other than that, I love it :D

Regards

Smith
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
I've never experienced that, Sense has also never crashed on me.. Are you using Swype throughout all of that?

Also, you might wanna change that sig picture lol..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
The new signature picture looks cool! Much better then the previous imho.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
Thanks :) hehe
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
Thanks to the person who donated on 11 September, I'm sorry for taking so long to say this, I only saw it just now :o. Unfortunately I don't know what your user name is, and I don't want to give away your name so I'll just add you to the list as Anonymous. Thanks SO much! :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Maybe you should put donation list on the welcomehead? Or somewhere else in rom? ;D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
That's a brilliant idea :eek: I think the welcomehead would be too cluttered though.. I could make it popup on first run, after customization. I just don't want it to be too assertive/annoying. Hmmmm..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Yeah, writing a donation list after customization is a good idea :) This does popup only once so isn't so annoying.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tiemen_S:
Maybe you can put them in the screen you get when Windows is installing (the orange thing with the loading bar) and make that 'bootscreen' change to normal after flash/first install (because the same image is used every boot)?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
I could.. But how small would the font have to be? And also, if the list increases.. Then what? :p I'll test different things out though, and I'll show you guys previews.. I'm just not sure when..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] smithisize:
Yeah Seem, I was using swype the whole time.

Why should I change my sig picture?

Regards

Smith
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
I think that might just be your problem, I remember that version 3 is buggy and 2 should be used instead.

'Cause I updated it :p Your choice though, haha.. (I think the newer one looks prettier though ;))
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
simplicity_17_September_23569_CHT_BETA.7z up!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
What do you guys think about this style of toggle switches? Note: If I do use it, I'll probably make em bigger..

On

Off (and frame removed)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Doofusfire:
liking those toggle buttons....

one other question Seem, I notice on the latest beta that you have windows live cooked in but its missing messenger... personally that is the only bit of windows live I actually use.

Is it worth dropping from the rom and allow people to add at a later date? when I go to install form market place I get lots of warnings about uninstalling old versions first!

Excellent Rom though mate keep going!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bigchrizzieboy:
install attached version

Hi, had the same by some roms, it's OK to shutdown old version (the warning you'll get).

The switches look awesome SEEM!

p.s. uploading mirrors for the new beta :o
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
Great :) I guess I'll be adding them in the next ROM then!

About Windows Live IM, that's pretty strange o_O I just added it into this latest beta 'cause I thought there's not much reason to remove it lol.. Strange :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dr-Death:
Hello! can you tell me, why you use in this version 23569 and not the 23135 version? i have flashed the last beta with 23135 and this version runs great! cya dr-death
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] token2k6:
It's friday, ain't got a job..ain't got **** to do..might as well flash a new ROM! thanks Seem!!

Been running 9/3 pretty much flawlessly, never one hang, freeze or anything, and I reset every other day only after a battery recharge.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] smithisize:
Yeah, I can't stand swype 3, too laggy. I always use swype 2. Still did all of that lol. I bet it's still swype though.

Sig changed :D

Downloading latest beta!!

Regards

Smith

PS: YES! USE THOSE ICONS!! lol I love those :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] j0shtalgia:
Blank text message?

After loading the ROM and using PPC to restore my data, there's a blank text message that is consistently at the top. There's no data in it. No received time, no text in the body, completely blank. I tried deleting it to no avail. Furthermore if I go into all messages there doesn't appear to be a blank entry there at all.

Anyone else experience this?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dr-Death:
Hi! Can everybody discribe the ram-use from the new beta_with_cht? thanks dr-death
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] FL5:
Maybe add in an icon for the left soft key in tmail, so that it's really clear whether I'm hitting delete or not? Currently it just shows that page-looking icon, which is really kinda ambiguous, as the same icon on the right soft key is very much not a delete button.

Also, for the compact flip clock in CHT, maybe invert the colors? (black background, white/chrome numbers?)

Maybe consider MMTaskManager http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=774283 instead of ArkSwitch? I find that MM uses just a little bit less RAM and I like how it shows the individual memory usage of my running processes.

Also, since I use Opera Mobile 10, I'll throw in a vote to have you cook that in. =P

Yeah, that's all I can really come up with. Nothing but cosmetic/personal preference type stuff.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
I just checked and I'm sure there's a picture of a trash can in the LSK, in emails. And in SMS theres a picture of the reply message thing.. :rolleyes:

I haven't tried MMTaskManager, but I'm just so used to arkswitch and it's never given me problems that I probably won't change. I'll give MMT a look some time though :p

The clock, I prefer the stock one, but you could always use a cab for the black one :)

And Opera 10, I don't think I'll be cooking that in too soon. It's large and unused by those who prefer 9.7 (which integrates with Sense, and will not be removed). I've also heard that it (Opera 10) doesn't play nice with some programs, I'm not sure how true that is..

How have you guys been finding memory in this beta? I'm not too happy with it...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] FL5:
Tmail Icons: May well be something that I've messed up with something else getting crosswired during UC (I do screw with a lot of stuff to get my little personalized settings), but I definitely don't get a little trash can icon. Anyone else noticing this? If I get some free time later this weekend I may try to hard reset without running UC and see if I can find where it gets goobered.

Opera 10: Can't blame you at all. It's a RAM-hogging monster, and was really obviously not designed around being used on a device like the TP2 with its limited resources. However, I love it, it's where I spend at least 60% of the time on my phone, and I really don't desire to go back to any previous version. Honestly, one of my first criteria when looking for a ROM to flash is whether or not it leaves enough resources free to feed the Opera Beast. I haven't noticed it not playing nice with any other programs. The only issue I have with it is not leaving it enough free RAM and having winmo autokill it.

Memory: As far as this one goes, I was noticing that I wasn't able to free up as much as with some of your previous versions (I do disable the winmo start menu & lock screen). I wasn't going to complain, because I haven't tried it off a clean install (I habitually run my standard UC junk), and wasn't sure if it was just me or not. I did switch off of your non-CHT beta, because after loading CHT manually it was running into the area where it started to autokill Opera 10 on me. However, with CHT cooked in, I do seem to be skirting the higher end of utilized memory with Opera 10 open, but it hasn't been autokilling on me. With the TP2, there really isn't enough RAM to have it be both satisfactorily speedy and stable at the same time, so every ROM is a compromise in one direction in some way. I think the current beta is really quite zippy, so whatever you've done with the memory allocation there isn't bad. However, I could see you maybe wanting to slide the allocation a bit more toward the stability (free ram) side of things.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] smithisize:
Hey seem,

Memory wise... well, it's not terrible. But not what it could be.

XDA_UC suggestion though. Could you please revise your XDA_UC script to run PIM backup after cab installations have completed? I've found that if I try to do it before the cabs begin to install, it lags everything up, frequently freezes it, then I need to re-do it all later.

Thanks a lot!

Smith
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
Has it been noticable different to other builds? Have any builds been particularly good in the memory department? If so, which ones?

You're not using the phone while XDA_UC is running are you?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
That's what I love in Toms Autoinstall :)

You should try to run XDA_UC in customization time, a way more reliable IMHO.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] smithisize:
Well, I don't check RAM usage as often with 23xxx builds simply because it's not as convenient. To me, it is still fine. I have around 70 MB free constantly, which is still pretty decent :) I wouldn't worry about it too much. I can still multitask (edit scripts, listen to music, browse web, and numerous other things) without any problems.

And no I'm not using the phone while XDA_UC is running, it just lags :/

@Jackos, doesn't silent_uc run at customization time, similar to Tom's autoinstall but with the equivilent amount of functionality as XDA_UC?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Uch, I don't know. Could you explain this a little more? I see that it is cooked into Valkyrie ROM, but there is no download as a standalone package for chefs? Maybe it's done exclusively for Valkyrie?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] whiffer2:
Compact Start Menu

I've been testing the most recent NRG with Compact Start Menu enabled, wow it is a really good performance boost.

SeeM any chance you can starting cooking the option in???
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] smithisize:
@Jackos:

I think it's specific to valkyrie. I think it's XDA_UC with some heavy modifications to it.

That is what it does though. It runs before windows boots. I tried the ROM before.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] husam666:
I'm sticking to this ROM

fast ram friendly and wm6.5.x build,

sry jackos :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
You're welcome, I know Simplicity is a great ROM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] smithisize:
Lol I simply can't decide. Sometimes I run simplicity, soemtimes I run JackFULL. Just depends on who has the latest and if I'm bored/desperate enough to update lol :)