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[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] b1indsided:
The key is in data if your not using mobile data then use the widget to turn it off til you need it. Or root and flash a custom rom. They have better battery life hands down
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] b1indsided:
Read the insane battery life thread.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 063_XOBX:
Yeah it just can't make calls
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crakerjaks:
the iphone sucks
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MadhouseMedic:
Because i don't have to wrap my phone in Rubber or Duct Tape it for it to make a phone call or maintain a data connection. You were just asking to get flamed by posting this. If you wan't help from people around here, bashing Android and saying "IOS 4 has no problems!!!" isn't going to be your best option.

P.S. Stock Android 2.1 or even Sense UI crushes IOS 4. Maybe it's not the phone....maybe it's the user. :confused:
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] epphllps:
You didn't specifically say that you had Google talk signed out. Turn off auto sign in on that app and it makes a huge difference.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ILYCyAnOgEn:
iphone sucks
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PolarWind:
I didn't see anyone mention this, not that it's going to be your issue but it could be something to check.

I recall a friend having a severe battery issue and it turned out the stock calendar program was preventing his phone from hibernating and thus being on constantly.

Just something to try, I hope you find out what's up soon. Also not sure if you have a spare battery, but sometimes you can get a dud and the only way to test that is try another battery.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Misty Blue:
Seriously, if you think iOS4 is better than Android then that's the phone you need. You pretty much just wasted everyone's time with all that.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wfrandy:
While I would agree that if you want to get dramatically improved battery life, your best bet is to root it and flash a custom rom, Even when my phone was stock it got much better battery life than yours seems to be getting. I actually ran my phone for for weeks stock, not rooted, so I would have a good baseline of experience when I did start to customize it.

Typically, my phone would last about 10-14 hours before needing to be recharged. That would be with slightly more usage than you indicate, and with data and gps always on, but 4g off, as I don't live in a 4g area.

Now that I am rooted, and am running Fresh 1.0.1 and the fps fix kernel, and a battery saver setcpu profile, the same use gives me more than 50% charge left after running 14-16 hours off the charger.

Personally, it sounds to me like you might have a defective battery. As one of the previous posters said, I would recommend you try the instructions in one of the battery life threads here and if that didn't work, I would take it to the Sprint repair center.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] the_hustleman:
iphone isn't a terrible phone, it just doesn't compare to an EVO.

anything iphone can do, the evo can do - and do it better.

no need to be on wi-fi for a video chat!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] echoside:
Why would you buy a 4.3 inch screen....4g.... and expect awesome battery? Yes it could be better but come-on....if you didn't expect it to have bad battery life....?????????? That's all I can say I just don't understand...android phones normally have bad battery life on top of all that....
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rockethot:
I'm having the same issues as you except that I am rooted. Have an underclocked phone and Baked Snack 9.7

I'm really beginning to think that the people that claim to get 14+ hours of battery life is just a bunch of bs. I do exactly what they do and i get no where near the 18 hours some users claim to get. And for the people bashing the iphone, its not a bad phone, and almost everyone that invests $200 in a phone get a case anyway. And no i'm not bashing the Evo either. Battery life just sucks on it.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bigant262:
No offense, but it seems like you kind of made up your mind already on what you want to do. Iphone 4 is a good phone, but honestly, it gets boring after about a week, if that. Android is so much fun. You don't have to root your phone for it to work properly. Do some research into why batteries drain really fast with this phone. You do realize how big the screen is right? lol. I''l give you ups and downs of both phones.

Iphone 4-

Good

Nice looking phone, OS is smooth, apps.

Bad

Got to watch where you hold it, AT&T (they don't have unlimited data plan), not very much to do with Iphone

Evo

Good

Big screen, Sprint, camera, don't have to be on wi-fi for video calling, fully customizable, even more so if you root it. There are more but tired of typing!

Bad

Battery

Thats just my opinion though. I would have more bad things to say about it if not for Cyanogen. Its like an overgrown Nexus now! Sorry for the long post. lol. If you have any questions on how to root or anything feel free to send me a message or whatever.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mercuryhayes:
dial *#*#4636#*#*

battery history

partial wake usage

tell me what comes up 1st and 2nd.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mjz147:
I just restarted the phone before I did this

But I get

1. Android system- with a blue bar a little over half way through

2. Dialer-blue bar 1/10 of the way through
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] topdnbass:
After heavy usage I'm at 13 hours with 75% battery life. I scoff at you *SCOFF*!!

Your problem is probably with partial wake usage.

I'd download spare parts and system panel and try to figure out what's eating your battery.

My guess is something is keeping your phone awake when it should be sleeping.

Check settings > about phone > battery and if the awake and up time are the same then that's your problem!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IceCreaMan:
on your homescreens, if you remove the calendar, friendstream, and contacts widgets your battery life will increase as well.

btw, are you on the latest OTA update?

and you don't have to flash to a custom rom to get decent battery life, but it all depends on your usuage.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] afflaq:
if you don't want to **** with the phone, why did you even bother with android? Maybe you should get an iPhone.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sporkman:
yea post like this make me lol ! do some searching world of info here with the Backsnacks rom i get 19 + hours per charge with HEAVY usage !

imho if you dont want to take the time to try and improve battery life then take it back get an iphone. and get one of these !

http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/07/20/add-a-side-mounted-end-call-button-to-your-iphone-4/
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] natefuhr:
The launcher issue seems to be caused by the latest Qik update.... try uninstalling Qik and the problem should go away... reinstalling will only bring the issue back. I hear Fring has a decent video call feature but I haven't personally tried it.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] omegasun18:
If you look through some of the threads there is one with a letter from GTC giving you instructions on a trick to help increase battery life its something like charge for 8 hours turn phone off charge for 1 hour turn phone on for 2 minutes then turn it off and charge for another hour.

This has given many almost double battery life supposedly. You may try that out as will as some of the other suggestions mentioned here. On a note the grass isnt always greener on the other side and all in all i dont think anyone here actually cares if you switch to an i phone or not. we all believe the android os is better or we wouldn't be here.

Threatening will just get you flamed (though if you post a battery thread you are likely to anyway since if you use the search function you will get probably 100s of threads going over different ways to increase battery life).

any way hope you take some suggestions found here and it helps you out. If not good luck with your iphone. (you will probably need it)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wrxlvr:
The thing is, there isn't a perfect phone out there. With the Evo, you have to set it up properly to get decent battery life, there is some build issues on a lot of them (screen seperation, power button cracks, etc).

With the iPhone you get dropped calls, slowdowns in your internet connectivity, the requirement of having to put a case on it, and random dialing/hangups/other nonsense because of the touchscreen wigging out. Combine that with the closed Ecosystem of Apple, and the fact that you're buying from a company that loves to tell its loyal customers to screw off or "you're holding it wrong", and it should be an easy decision for you.

If you really just like shiny things that don't work properly though, by all means, go get yourself a iPhone 4. You'll be the coolest kid on the block. Just like all the other kids on the block that have them.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrmomoman:
So I am not Cool without the IPHONE 4G with the bigger Geebees? :(
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wagedomain:
GPS doesn't use juice when you're not using it. Not the culprit, you can turn on GPS without worry.

Turn on "enable always-on" mobile data, don't turn it off.

Uptime and Awake time means your phone is not sleeping properly, something is waking it up. Whatever is causing this is DEFINITELY the root of your problem.

Don't use a task killer.

Now that that's out of the way, here's a good place to start. Don't just not sync your accounts, try removing them, particularly FaceBook, Twitter, and/or Flickr if you have them. Google account is probably fine, but other accounts like those can cause issues with HTC's syncing.

The HTC syncing process can potentially keep your phone awake. Happened to me, I was getting similar battery life.

I would recommend flashing a custom ROM, if you can't figure it out. On rooted stock ROM or even the CyanogenMod nightly build I can get a day easily of battery life.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wagedomain:
Those are both terrible ideas. In android you DO NOT need to kill apps. This is almost definitely not an app issue, I'd strongly suspect it's an account sync issue as it's exactly what I had.

Task killers only serve to slow you down in the long run, and auto-killing everything is just a terrible idea. It can also lead to unexpected consequences (for example it would kill your alarm app unless you white list it, which I guarantee most people would forget the first time).
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Seriously all? These threads are just getting out of hand. It seems that everyday a new person comes in asking some fairly legitimate questions about a phone and ends up getting flamed.

Android has issues. iOS has issues. WinMo has some pretty serious issues. But note that all of them can be rooted/jailbroken/unlocked/flashed.

To the OP: your using a smartphone; it's basically a smaller computer. When you buy a laptop, you tweak that laptop and add/remove programs at will to make it work just the way you like it. This same concept applies to phones. ;)

Everyone else: Come on all. Sometimes it seems as if this community likes to lay in wait for n00bs to say something wrong just so they can flame them...lol

~Jasecloud4
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrmomoman:
I agree that some are harsher than others and while sometimes my posts does not contribute to the actual answer I try to use a little humor to break the tension between the "noobs" that seem to push the right buttons with some users that just sends them into a bootloop :)

We can all agree that most of us here are very helpful and are first to try. We can also agree that many of us like to experiment and load roms as we are on the EVO 4G and it's a ROM Loaders Dream Machine at the moment. And lastly we can all agree that when someone comes in and asks for help and speaks negatively or become "snarky" then the wear and tear of the "Noob Shoes" they have on can suffer horrible longevity.

We all were Noobs once and some of us are still noobs even after all these years :)

As they say you only reap what you sow.

There is a lot of reading material on here and only the "end user" can truthfully know if the phone will perform up to their standards. If the expectations are high then the end result will generally result in a departure.

To the OP and all new comers to the phone. Practice Humility when you ask a question as the people who try to help are offering their time and in return practice some courtesy and read up a little.

I give this one example recently with a client. Remember I get paid to help them with anything they want me to help them with in regards to IT and Technology as I am a Consultant.

"Hey the new phones can it do this and that and this?" - Yes it can.

"Can you help me setup up the first 2 phones(Droid X) and I will set everyone else up" - Yes I can. I even write down the steps.

I get back to my laptop and send them the DROID X PDF as well as informed them that they should read up on the PDF before asking me questions as I charge them for the time.

I get a call no later than 5 minutes after I send the PDF.

"Hey I am trying to figure out how to put an "app" on the screen can you help me out?" - Yes I can - please read the MANUAL I just sent you and call me back when you have done so.

Even though they might pay me for my time. I am not on their time no matter the price. If I let them call me whenever then I get the Sunday call as what the wifi password that I sent them in their email is and ***** that I charged them for a 1 min call. I don't do it for the money I do it to get them to stop :)

Maybe we should go to a support ticketing system? No? HAHA

Anyways off of my SoapBox. I was getting a nose bleed being up a few inches from the ground.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] herbthehammer:
I know its no help, and I was tempted to flame too, but here's my two cents. I agree with a previous poster. I've tried a few phones in the past year or so. Regular to feature to smart phones. None off them have everything I like or is perfect. If I could frankenstein a phone, I would. Like: I like the display on this one, the receive audio sounds good on this one, the camera is good on this one, the battery life is good on this one, this one hears the cell towers the best, this one has good wifi reception..... None, I repeat none are perfect with all things together. The same is true with phone companies. None of them are the best at all things.

It seems like its this way for most things in life: pick your poison or pick the lesser of the evils. It helps to learn how to use your phone too. I don't mean that in an insulting way either.

I hope I didn't flame you, I tried not to.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrmomoman:
That is really the jist of these phones. There isn't a perfect phone. And if there were one then we would get bored with it and make it imperfect to get something else. Kinda like the guy with the HOT MODEL WIFE because at some point he gets tired of doing the duty with her and tries to move on. Mutt Lange are you listening?????

I, like many others get irritated when someone asks questions and so many good answers are put on the table and then they come back with "the other phone does do this, the other phone works better this way, the other phone has better this and that" and you just want to say "WELL GET THE OTHER FREAKIN PHONE!!! - NOW SCRAM!". But most don't and a few do. :)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gthing:
Saying you're thinking of getting an iPhone isn't a threat to anybody, because nobody cares what phone you have. However, people would be happy to help you with battery issues. I agree with others that said to root and install a third party rom. I did that and was amazed at the difference.

I don't know why Sprint's custom rom sucks so damn bad.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Battery issues plague all of us EVO owners. Unfortunately it has been an issue since day one, but installing a more efficient ROM and buying a car charger go a long way...lolol.

On a serious note though, pretty much every smartphone I've owned has a roughshod battery life, and buying an extended battery is a great but expensive option, but for those of us whose phones still consume power like a Hummer consumes gas, it ends up being the only viable alternative. :(

~Jasecloud4
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] laydros:
I'm shocked this didn't get flamed more. I guess the people around here are either nicer or honestly care if someone uses another phone.

I love the iPhone *holds up flame shield* and honestly would recommend it to MOST PEOPLE. There, I said it!

Android is great and probably the future, but I think most people don't care if their phone can tether, or play ogg, or be customized, or download zip files, etc. They just want it to work. And the iPhone is great for that. I had a 3G and then a 3GS and really liked both of them. My wife got an iPhone 4 on release day as an upgrade to her 3G, and loves it beside the proximity sensor issues. The reception thing is really overblown, and the proximity sensor is hopefully just a software fix. I'm very much into the Apple ecosystem, and it is so nice when stuff just works. I have a couple of macs, Apple TV, etc.

But in the end I was too frustrated with the closed nature of the phone. Because the jailbreak community is kinda small and underground, the quality of the work was not on part with the modding community around Android.

I agree with Apple on a lot of stuff. I like the policy of don't add something until it works, and I was fine with no Flash. When I show off full Flash in the EVO, I have a hard time finding anything all that impressive.

But I wonder if history is going to repeat itself. In the mid-late 80's Apple was king of the PC world, and they lost it. I think the closed nature is starting to cost them. And as someone that makes my money from programming, I think it is important to follow the future.

So... see ya. The iPhone is very nice. It takes better pictures and videos, and has much better games and social media apps. Get a case, it helps keep up your resale value, and makes the antenna problem completely a non-issue. There are better accessories for it since there are so many and they all use the same car dock or case or whatever.

But I don't have plans to go back any time soon. I paid $10 for 2 spare batteries on ebay, and got a charger cable for work and the car. I'd rather deal with this battery life than give up google nav, way bigger screen, long press on the keyboard, SWYPE!, browser choice, music player choice, running perl and python scripts, alternative dialers, widgets, WAY better notifications, etc.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tonyh703:
do your research

do your research, test different ROMs, read tips, stop tryng to get everyone to babysit you.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SayWhat10:
I SAY BULL

25% at heavy usage? that means you get a full two days of heavy usage at that rate

Again, BS!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lostx:
Get advanced task killer from the market. Set it to aggressive and to autokill when screen is off. For unrooted phones that have downloaded a lot of apps. This would be the best bet.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bassic:
There's a major difference between 'reduced battery life from a 4.3" screen and 4G' and 'can't go more than a workday without putting my phone back on the charger.' It's reasonable to expect some reduced battery life for a phone packed with power-hungry features. It's not reasonable to expect a phone to be charged multiple times throughout the day with moderate usage.

I like the EVO, and I like the Android platform - that's why I bought one. I haven't had the chance to use mine yet as I've only had it for a day, however I am a bit disturbed by some of the things I've been reading. In fact I bought two of them, and one of them is on it's way back to the retailer for a replacement; there was a minor defect on one of the buttons on the bottom, and the bottom of the screen wasn't flush with the bezel causing some light leakage. These are issues you don't *usually* have with the iPhone; sure there's the overhyped antenna signal strength issue, but build quality issues are *almost* unheard of in the Apple world.

The good news for us Android users is that we have the ability to track down any issues and provide fixes for them, even if it involves a 'hack.' It's nice to know that we have the ability to do pretty much anything we want with our phones, and our (EVO/Android) system overlords don't determine what we can and can't do with our phones or require their blessing for applications (for the most part at least; root restrictions are in place because of the carriers' demands)

The way I see it, and I knew this going in, is that Android *may* require some work to get things the way you like it; it's nice to have these options. If you want a fancy phone to 'just work' out of the box with minimal effort or minimal customization, then you get an iPhone. Oh, and if you do get an iPhone, have fun paying AT&Ts rates, and enjoy your dropped calls! :-)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] siwelk:
Could you define 'just work' please? Because I would consider antennae issues, proximity sensor issues, yellowing screen issues, NO FLASH, and possibly other yet to be revealed issues, not exactly "just working."
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drksilenc:
please never type this again its utter bs
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nebenezer:
Anyone that owns an iPhone and is happy with it is getting what they deserve.. no more, no less
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] toneman1984:
Example of EVO potential

I'm rooted, running baked snacks 9.6 (the latest was slow) with the netarchy-toastmod FPS fix and overclocked with setcpu. I leave gps, wifi, and 4g on continuously just because I can (I rarely get 4g reception in San Marcos TX). Last night I didn't even charge the phone and I still had 50% battery life when I woke up. I get 55 frames per second consistently, and 5-point multitouch (I can play 5-note chords on piano app). It is blazingly smooth and fast. I spent hours downloading apps... probably have like 70 by now and it's still incredibly fast.

I love how I can just go to Google Nav and say my location and it understands me, and loads the destination onto the gps. In fact many apps I can just talk right into the phone and it just translates it.

I completely customized the home screen. It's pretty much my dream phone. I have yet to find a single flaw. And it was a lot of fun learning how to root, flash roms, install kernels, and customize. It's like building your own PC and tweaking it to perfection. But then again I like projects and customization so the android community and xda community is definitely the place for me. The developers here are so awesome.

The difference between the EVO out of the box and the EVO in my hands is so large it may as well be called a different phone and it's all thanks to open source, sharing community.

I guess it's obvious I've become an EVO junkie by now. Iphone's are smooth out of the box, but so boring. What's to play with?

I compare the iphone to an xbox360 and an EVO to a PC computer. The former works out of the box (mostly) but you are limited to a closed system. The PC can be endlessly tweaked and customized.

Anyway search the forums for how to Root, flash roms, etc. Your battery life will be amazing.