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[Desire Android Development] PseudoReal:
I have installed the ROM yesterday and have to say that it works pretty flawlessly.

the only two major concerns, I have, are:

1. scrolling in the All Apps is pretty slow and it is juddering. on 2.1. it was very flawless. now it feels more like a Motorola Droid

2. Boottime: it takes about 2 minutes till the device booted, thereof is one minute with a red circle and the other minute the nexus one animation

another minor concern is:

When I wipe my data just to have a clean install via Clockwork Recovery Manager, the rom just boots until the Nexus animation. there it remains forever.
[Desire Android Development] quark1980:
ah, that explains it.

i had that while first flashed this rom. flashed it via clockwork.

since this was also my first flash on this device, i almost though i did something wrong..

but after the first reboot it also halted while showing the nexus logo.

had to pull the battery to get it going again.

that, and the htc faceboookthingy are the only flaws i found.
[Desire Android Development] leecavturbo:
2nd day on this rom. not 1 reboot battery usage as normal

everything works as was

only issues are the new features. 720p is jittery , voice dial works but success rate is only 1% , voice to text very good actually not sure what work has or will go into this over the years to make it flawless even for a scouse accent :p
[Desire Android Development] PseudoReal:
Do not have any issue with facebook!
[Desire Android Development] quark1980:
normal facebookapp works fine.

but to get status updates in the friends-stream-widget you need to login with the "sense" facebookapp.

ik keep getting the notification that the service is not available at this time. while the normal app just seems to work fine.

furthermore, i made a 512mb EXT2 partition with rommanager. it seems to work fine with that, is it preferable to convert it to ext3? and if yes, forgive for me asking, how??
[Desire Android Development] Preaxter:
I just installed the version for MoDaCo Custom ROM v5 and v6, and so it works flawlessly. Will report if things change...
[Desire Android Development] oror494:
can u add ocuv support?

and maybe get the gpu overclocked?
[Desire Android Development] Nekromantik:
you cant oc the GPU.

people have been working on it but have not made progress yet.
[Desire Android Development] quark1980:
another question: will this rom eventually get OTA updates via rommanager? are there plans to implement that?
[Desire Android Development] NeoPhyTe.x360:
Actually not, but i hope to implement on 1.4 thanks
[Desire Android Development] NeoPhyTe.x360:
in sense 2.2 at the moment there isn't sources to build an UV/OC kernel
[Desire Android Development] PseudoReal:
is there anybody that can download additional HTC Widgets?
[Desire Android Development] georgito:
Cant connect to GPS sat.
[Desire Android Development] Aiuspaktyn:
Mine is working... gmaps, copilot & sygic...
[Desire Android Development] SimonCraddock:
I'm not sure how it works but I suspect 1 of 2 things is the reason why we can't download HTC Widgets..

1. The Rom doesn't have the download address set as it was just a test ROM.

2. Somehow HTC can detect its a test ROM and block access
[Desire Android Development] mattiadj:
Neo when the ROM without battery drain will be relased?

It's a very big problem and I'm afraid but I switched to pays Rom and is not fast as yours!:-( but not have any problem of battery drain
[Desire Android Development] kryptonite5020:
My weather widget is finally working. Today, my wifi started to act abnormally, I could surf the internet but was unable to use market and update weather, had "Sorry, no connection...bla bla", but on APN, updates were fine. So, I wipe/data/cache flashed Leedroid 1.6 and had the same problem. Then I reflashed my radio and everything is fine.
[Desire Android Development] NeoPhyTe.x360:
If you like a beta to test it.....send me a private, and u can test, because the battery drain test it's test and test hours to see.....

(is not as fast than 1.3 but in quadrant 1340-1450)

Who likes to try 1.4 beta to test save battery that send me a private.

Only to test battery drain
[Desire Android Development] mattiadj:
Yes you can send me a beta but I don't understand if you have fix the battery drain :-) sorry
[Desire Android Development] NeoPhyTe.x360:
It's for you try to test the battery drain, and tell me in x hours
[Desire Android Development] mattiadj:
Ok I'll can use it for some days and tell you if the battery life is better than the latest public version.can I upgrade without wipe?
[Desire Android Development] NeoPhyTe.x360:
Yeah, you can upgrade without problems, and then the official will release you can upgrade too with new improves, wait im uploading, in a few i send url by private message
[Desire Android Development] mattiadj:
If you can, can you insert the stock sense theme?if is a problem don't worry :-)
[Desire Android Development] duskom:
I've sent you a PM for testing
[Desire Android Development] NeoPhyTe.x360:
I don't think batt drain is for the theme....that it's obvioulsly its that if you like "speed" battery drain it's a fact until the sources of new kernel froyo2.2sense released to make an UV kernel with more features...

i will make a theme for like the official sense, but it there isnt the problem of drain
[Desire Android Development] mattiadj:
Sure, is only for estetic mood :-)

With the stable release you can make a version with stock sense theme, if it is possible, right?
[Desire Android Development] NeoPhyTe.x360:
I will make a theme "official sense froyo" to flash it, on a 1.x version, for who likes.
[Desire Android Development] mattiadj:
Great!!!
[Desire Android Development] duskom:
Neo,

Tell me precisley what kind of feedback you need re batt. drain?
[Desire Android Development] NeoPhyTe.x360:
On a normal use of mobile, that if you feel a minor batt drain than on 1.3, and little seem on performance
[Desire Android Development] duskom:
Installed beta at 48% battery at 18:30h. Will see usage tonight.
[Desire Android Development] mattiadj:
Any one can send me via mp link for beta?
[Desire Android Development] Dunbad:
Yes please pm sent

Thanks
[Desire Android Development] duskom:
Sent.

Spent 5 % battery in 15 minutes of constant surfing via wireless
[Desire Android Development] mattiadj:
Link don't work says that the file is not available at moment.

So 5% is good, better?
[Desire Android Development] Dunbad:
Can't download it yet. Says temporary unavailable. Will keep trying?
[Desire Android Development] duskom:
Don't worry, try again. It was same for me.
[Desire Android Development] leecavturbo:
emails delete themselves after an hour or so

? bug?
[Desire Android Development] Dunbad:
That's not great, depends on brightness of screen, running proccesses in background and what's being viewed I guess. I've been keeping records of battery drain on standby overnight in my house with different roms. The better roms (like the first version) get through 1 percent in two hours in standby mode with my settings. (And that's everything on, wifi, data, etc).
[Desire Android Development] NeoPhyTe.x360:
I'm uploading another betatest3, to try.

in a few i edit this post to put url
[Desire Android Development] Alex-V:
Whats the difference between this and the other beta..??

with kind regards...Alex
[Desire Android Development] NeoPhyTe.x360:
Some command of managing the virtual memory
[Desire Android Development] Dunbad:
Downloading now. During tonight Ill do 10 consecutive quadrant tests on max screen brightness with both versions to compare.
[Desire Android Development] Jagdish84:
I honestly dont see any probs with the battery life on 1.3e...guess its just meh :\
[Desire Android Development] NeoPhyTe.x360:
I Will do 2 versions, dn't worry about this =)
[Desire Android Development] NeoPhyTe.x360:
Betatest3 to try battery drain

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LE941FCS

Quadrant about 1400
[Desire Android Development] monyozt:
bro is this ROM support app2sd+? not app2sd (without "+") and wifi tetering also?
[Desire Android Development] Preaxter:
I have 66 apps installed and 106 Mb free, everything goes to the ext3 part.

If you mean WiFi hotspot then yes, that works perfectly too.
[Desire Android Development] SimonCraddock:
I can't say I've noticed a battery problem with v1.3.

I have Aquarium Live Wallpaper running, Wi-Fi on for a an hour or two, make prob 3-4 calls and send a few sms and usually use about 30% charge over the 8hr period at work.

Once I leave work and my profile manager switches to my evening profile I'm lucky to use another 5% before morning.
[Desire Android Development] monyozt:
thanks for explanation.. 1 more

about that images, what is system storage stand for? because i just have 30MB free from 250mb of total
[Desire Android Development] monyozt:
yes i have batree problem on v1.3e... just make few sms and i got 56% batree left after 12hours (only few sms)
[Desire Android Development] leecavturbo:
i've used 8% from 7am this morning. wifi on all day , few calls , text , email

i did charge for 6hrs with phone switched off from about 29%
[Desire Android Development] d3sm0nd:
Can I just flash it over 1.3? I hope it doesnt wipe...
[Desire Android Development] duskom:
It doesnt wipe
[Desire Android Development] Preaxter:
I'm not sure, but i think maybe it's where the sy stem resides... I have only 30 Mb too, so... guess it's ok. ;-)
[Desire Android Development] Alex-V:
Mhhh...at this time i don´t have any changes with battery drain from 1.3 to 1.4 beta....

But i don´t have problems with battery in 1.3 (sleep mode...only max 1-% per hour) think its the same in beta...will test if i use the system....??!!

with kind regards...Alex
[Desire Android Development] leecavturbo:
how come the problems are random?

battery usage is very wide ranging as different user loads

but as for losing email or rubbish 720p how can that be a prob on 1 phone but not another?
[Desire Android Development] Dunbad:
HI, not sure if this means anything, but first beta sent I done 12 quadrant tests back to back on full brightness. (An average score of 1306 by the way).

The test took 14 mins to do and battery lost 4 percent.

Now I shall compare to the second beta sent
[Desire Android Development] landwomble:
Battery best ever ever for me with this rom and radio. Maybe variance due to signal strength in different areas?
[Desire Android Development] ocuj:
I just flashed 1.4 beta. I didn't upgrade from 1.3e. How long does it take to get past the first HTC screen? It takes a long time. Still watching the white HTC screen after 5 minutes. I've an ext 4 BTW.
[Desire Android Development] Alex-V:
Oh fine....can you make this test also with 1.3 to compare....or have you and i don´t read it..??

with kind regards...Alex
[Desire Android Development] leecavturbo:
tried to change video settings to see if other modes worked ok and the phone crashed ! had to remove battery to restart it
[Desire Android Development] NeoPhyTe.x360:
In my phone don't crash any mode of video :S
[Desire Android Development] Alex-V:
did not crash on mine...work ;)

with kind regards...Alex
[Desire Android Development] leecavturbo:
seems ok now alex. how weird first time nerves maybe
[Desire Android Development] Dunbad:
Ok, second test this time with 1.3e, (i had not so good battery with this one when I first installed.)

Again full brightness, and back to back testing.

12 quadrant tests carried out, (with average score of 1429.)

5 percent drop at end of test 12. However still nearly 2 minutes to go on the clock. So the same 14 minutes of testing gave battery drop of 6 percent for 1.3e

Summary , 1st beta, 4 percent drop, in 14 minutes. 12 tests.

1.3e 6 percent drop in 14 minutes, but 14 tests.

Unsure if this is any help or none at all!!)
[Desire Android Development] Alex-V:
yes i have the same feeling...the beta is slower...not in launcher or so...but i have the feeling eg. it needs more time to come to mobile internet (3g) and so i get some problems with weather update....(Could not connect..retry)...

to compare.... i flash back to 1.3 and all is good..no connect issues

mmhh...?!?!?!?!

with kind regards...Alex
[Desire Android Development] mattiadj:
I don't have test the beta but today I'm using pays Rom, is much slower than this Rom version 1.3e but but I don't have any problem on battery.the battery drain is not present but the Rom is much slower.

I hope in a new version of this Rom with a better usage of battery :-)
[Desire Android Development] Dunbad:
That second beta that was sent is lovely, very snappy I find with no hangs in the browser. I like, but not sure how the battery will last. Still I love this Rom.
[Desire Android Development] MasDroid:
Agreed... this rom is probably more stable than the official OTA FroYo release when it arrives :D
[Desire Android Development] mattiadj:
The beta 3 file is not available!

Is possible to upload it to a ftp static server?I can't download from mediaupload
[Desire Android Development] NeoPhyTe.x360:
uploading......
[Desire Android Development] hk5354:
without Chinese keyboard in this rom....

please add the support for the chinese...
[Desire Android Development] mattiadj:
Thank you, I suggest to insert link at first post :-)
[Desire Android Development] NeoPhyTe.x360:
http://www.eakew.com/ROMs/Desire/Ne...roYo_FRF91_save-battery_without_betatest3.zip

It's only a beta, at the moment not.
[Desire Android Development] k3vinyang:
Cab you add HTC CIME CHINESE input keyboard?
[Desire Android Development] ocuj:
Some results on the 1.4 beta.

10 mins webbrowsing - 5 percent loss

7 hrs standby - 4 percent loss

I don't know if this is good or not. Is 5 percent in 10 mins a lot while webbrowsing? I never had a ROM which showed the percentage, and I didn't test it any other way.
[Desire Android Development] d3sm0nd:
I've also tested the 1.4 beta.

Standy over night from 98% to 88% for 8 hours... not bad!
[Desire Android Development] Dunbad:
On the second beta that was sent out, I lost 12 percent during 6 hour sleep period. Hmmmm not great. From the first release of this rom, I got 3 percent loss over 6 hour sleep period. Which was exceptional. Having scores on quadrant is one thing, but perhaps most important for the majority of people is the actual BROWSER speed. Any chance of sacrificing some quadrant processes, whilst concentrating on browser speed? I'm not to fussed about how quickly my phone can shuffle music tracks, Or photos, but browser speed is where its at! Is it possible to save energy in these areas, and dump power on the browser some how? Or is this Talking rubbish?

Thanks
[Desire Android Development] duskom:
Battery Usage on a BetaTest3

At 87% - after 2h 45m since unplugged

Awake time 45 minutes

Cell Standby 27%

Android System 26%

Phone Idle 23%

Wi-Fi 14%

Display 8

Internet 2%

The phone was used mostly for browsing internet, checking emails, watching some videos on YouTube etc. No phone calls, SMS, or MMS

Concerning speed, did not noticed significant degradation in comparison with 1.3e
[Desire Android Development] theminhbk_shadow:
thank you. My Desire run Room of you? It ok???
[Desire Android Development] hk5354:
could it be possible to make the Chinese input support for ime which you have removed as a update.zip?
[Desire Android Development] PseudoReal:
I would also like to vote for browser speed.

After two days of usage, I can state:

Resizing on douple tap is very jittery (e.g. on the forum overview of XDA)

Scrolling in the browser or in all applications is also very jittery.

Regards,
[Desire Android Development] amf:
I made a little experiment using v1.3d and v1.4 beta3. 12 runs with Quadrant / Backlight @100% / Screen Timeout @ Never / wifi ON / Mobile Data ON / Sync OFF. Test conducted with batt meter @ 100%

v1.3d:

Ave. Score - 1272

Took 17 minutes from 1st to 12th run

100% to 96% start to finish batt level

v1.4 beta3:

Ave. Score - 1216

Took 15 minutes from 1st to 12th run

100% to 96% start to finish batt level.

Not conclusive but I think there is no real-world difference between these versions. I guess fresh installs (with no apps installed) between test will yield better results.
[Desire Android Development] mattiadj:
So no differences in battery drain between the two Rom?

Can you test the differences with other Rom such as leledroid or pays?
[Desire Android Development] amf:
Yeah, would love to but I just don't have the time. Let us just enjoy what's available. :D
[Desire Android Development] diabo_bom:
After instal the rom my desire dont pass the HTC logo...what can i be doing wrong ?
[Desire Android Development] cooltide:
Just be patient, it takes a coupleof minutes for the first boot after flashing.
[Desire Android Development] leecavturbo:
mine is perfect.

what i have found is with any issue turning the phone off battery out and then back on makes stuff ok.

apart from my 720p . it works but its jittery/slow
[Desire Android Development] mattiadj:
Make a full wipe
[Desire Android Development] atomfix:
It took 4 minutes for me to pass that logo on the first time. But it might be because you haven't wiped everything properly? :S
[Desire Android Development] diabo_bom:
Already w8 20min :(

I'm going to try. :)
[Desire Android Development] DesirableHTC:
Battery on this rom is terrible, i have just lost 15% in 3 hours, on stand by. I wasnt even using anything! in that 3 hours, all i did was do a titanium back up. Time to switch roms i think.
[Desire Android Development] Sultan1993:
Of course after flash it will drain faster. You have to do battery discharging/charging cycle. For example, on 1.2 from 2am to 8am i haven't lost any battery percent. Every ROM should act this way after flashing
[Desire Android Development] DesirableHTC:
so how do i do that?

Thanks
[Desire Android Development] chrysochire:
Itunes Sync

http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/30/official-htc-rolling-out-android-2-2-and-720p-video-capture-to/

Hmmm. I love Neophytes rom. But is there any way Itunes sync can be implemented. ;-)
[Desire Android Development] mattiadj:
I have tested the latest beta and my consideration are very negative.

The battery drain is a little little bit less than the 1.3e but is not enough for a good Rom.

At the same time the performance are more more more less than the 1.3e!!!!

So if I must have this Rom I choose the latest final and so I must accept a terrible battery drain but a powerful speed.

If I don't want battery drain but standard performance I must choose other Rom like pays.

Neo I hope really in a better Rom with a good compromise of performance and power control of battery

Bye!!
[Desire Android Development] CerB:
love your Theme Expresso thing on the screen and lock screen, its it possible to get that as an zip ? to install on other roms ?
[Desire Android Development] Alex-V:
I don´t have any battery drain problems with this rom....if i compare..than i compare to the original 2.1 eclair rom...and compared to the original this rom have no battery drain...on the contrary...battery life is shorter in the original rom...

offtopic: Here is a little program to set "long press search Hardwarekey" to the program you want....now i have a Camera Hardwarekey :) :) :)

http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-socialnmobile-buttonshortcuts-qFB.aspx

with kind regards...Alex
[Desire Android Development] DesirableHTC:
I use iTunes agent. works very well. :)

http://ita.sourceforge.net/
[Desire Android Development] chrysochire:
Thanks for that. I was actually always using Doubletwist, until it started working (it crashes everytime it syncs with itunes playlists, tried everything). So if I am able to sync my many playlists, which ITA doesn't do, I would be really happy.

Curious how HTC managed to pull it off, to use Itunes....
[Desire Android Development] Jagdish84:
Neo could you maybe implent or fix the RTL issues with this one?

i can refer you to the files+framework.jar needed to be implented (fixed to work with proper RTL)...
[Desire Android Development] FSGuruh:
How to add removed HTC item back

Hi all and thanks for that beautiful ROM.

I used it now for over 2 week with no major problem.

I personally don't like the cutdown versions of the ROM so I tried to add back removed things.

I know the ROM file is just a big ZIP-File, which you can modify. I know after the modification you need to resign the ROM.

According this I successfully to add following:

in data/app:

- teeter.apk; DesireLED.apk; FlashlightAlerts.apk

and in system/app:

- GenieWidget.apk

This things seem to work, and yeh, you can do it vice versa and remove as much as you want. (That's why I always state, removing is easy)

I further added in system/app:

- com.htc.StockWidget.apk; DCSStock.apk; Stock.apk

Unfortunately Stocks didn't work. I have no icon in the menu nor I have any widgets about it.

I got the apk files from Pays- Froyo Sense ROM, which is also MoDaCo r5 based.

Does anybody know, what I did wrong for Stocks? Are there additional configuration files you need to modify? Was it the correct version of the apk files?

Best regards
[Desire Android Development] duskom:
Battery Usage on a BetaTest3 - 7 hours update

At 87% - after 2h 45m since unplugged

Awake time 45 minutes

Cell Standby 27%

Android System 26%

Phone Idle 23%

Wi-Fi 14%

Display 8

Internet 2%

UPDATE:

7 hours since unplugged, battery at 65% with awake time of 1h45m

Cell Standby 25%

Android System 25%

Phone Idle 22%

Wi-Fi 12%

Display 8%

Voice calls 6%

Internet 2%
[Desire Android Development] Alex-V:
Hello...

NeoPhyTe will give us an extra update zip if the new 1.4 version come out...with the default htc skin ;)

And the stock.apk have a update problem...i think htc know this...because if i will update..it says: at this time there are problems and will be continued soon

with kind regards...Alex
[Desire Android Development] DesirableHTC:
Not just HTC, this programme will work with any device...... Of course Apple wont be very happy about that :rolleyes:

Hope it works for you. let me know. :)
[Desire Android Development] mattiadj:
Is not a great battery level.at this level after 6hours the phone die!

Is not good, no no no good for me but I suppose for everyone
[Desire Android Development] zerocool76:
Always in Mass Storage mode

Hi guys,

does anybody experienced that connecting through usb is always mounting the sd has mass storage even if you set the phone for just charging on usb connection?
[Desire Android Development] mattiadj:
No, nothing about this
[Desire Android Development] NeoPhyTe.x360:
updated 1.4
[Desire Android Development] stephan.pieri:
1.4a

lol i was just about to apply the 1.3e update to my Desire when i went back to step one to take another look at the 1st post only to see a different image...1.4a woo. Now downloading, 1minute remaining and will flash immediately. I'll let you know how it goes :-S

Cheers fellas
[Desire Android Development] vecc:
1.4a

Thank you very much for the update, NeoPhyTe!
[Desire Android Development] mattiadj:
Now the battery drain is fixed?any way to have the standard clock theme?:-)
[Desire Android Development] c0urier:
The ROM works like a charm - A bit faster then the earlier version. Thumbs up!!
[Desire Android Development] dash7869:
what are the IMEs included? is there the stock android keyboard?
[Desire Android Development] Sultan1993:
Will there be a stock theme as you promised? :)
[Desire Android Development] mattiadj:
I hope!!!!:-) will be wonderful!I really don't like black theme for clock! :-)
[Desire Android Development] NeoPhyTe.x360:
This night,im not at home now
[Desire Android Development] zeusrazvy:
i got 1.3e now need wipe or somethin to 1.4a?10x ur roms are best for my battery life
[Desire Android Development] Sultan1993:
Thanks :) this is great :)
[Desire Android Development] Heppieboeddah:
Just flashed. Will comment later. First impression feels good.

Tip: no need to wipe ext3. All apps will re-install. Some protected and payed apps not . Homescreens you have to re-arange
[Desire Android Development] dmpwd:
Will flash tonite.

I just luv the black clock...
[Desire Android Development] Brutos08:
Great from running 1.3e..will update tonight these are the best roms