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[Desire General] tephra:
hi all,

so I saw that unrevoked3 is out and read that it makes installing other ROM's really easy.

so I installed the windows hboot driver and unrevoked3 automatically installed ClockworkMod 2.5.0.1

i didn't really know what todo next so I did a nandroid backup... that took a while, so I assumed it had backedup everything (old rom + apps + user settings etc)

anyways then I rebooted back into my stock ROM and copied opendesire 2.2 onto the SD.

then I rebooted into ClockworkMod and installed the opendesire2.2.zip

then I tried booting normally and it sort of sat on the initial screen for a long while, so I rebooted back into CWM and did a wipe/factory reset.

then rebooted again.

this time it loaded up opendesire fine.

after playing around for a bit I wanted to go back to my old rom.

so i rebooted into CWM and just did a nandroid restore...

now when I boot into my old ROM I am missing all my apps.

the home screens are blank

there is a new "super user privs" app

various other things are missing.

so what did I do wrong?

doesn't nandroid backup everything?

Cheers

D.
[Desire General] tephra:
I forgot to say, I havn't rooted the phone - I dont know if that makes a difference... I actually thought the unrevoked thing was going todo more that just install a different debug boot loader...
[Desire General] iain2510:
Hi, got my first andriod, the desire, only 6 weeks ago so still a n00b myself! Hopefully someone can answer better and correct my mistakes but here goes:

With Linux you have to be a root (or superuser) to access, modify, execute, etc any and all files. Our Desires, with stock ROMS, do not allow us to do these things - hence we need to 'root' our phones.

I think the internal memory of the phones has two parts - one holds the ROM (the operating system) and the other is a 'cache' which holds user/system info relevant to the ROM. The cache is specific to the ROM which is why if you change from say the stock ROM to opendesire you need to wipe the cache. However, if you upgrade the ROM, eg opendesire 2.1 to opendesire 2.2 you do not need to wipe the cache.

To be able to access the part of the phone which holds both the ROM and the cache you need to be root/superuser. If unrevoked worked without errors and you have been able to change ROMS (i recommend ROM manager) then you have 'rooted' your phone.

When ROM manager asks if you wish to back up your ROM I think it only backs up the cache, not the ROM itself, as that would already be on your SD card as a .zip file.

If you wish to go back to stock I think you need to download stock ROM, use ROM manager to install it, then go back to ROM manager and use the backup/restore option and restore your initial backed up cache.

Hope this helps a little!
[Desire General] EroThraX:
You rooted the phone when you ran Unrevoked3, that's why you have superuser permissions.

It doesn't install a different boot loader, it installs a new recovery which allows you to easily flash custom roms without having to use fake-flash.

Something must have gone wrong during your nandroid backup.
[Desire General] tephra:
ok i understand about the root bit and also the recovery bit now - thanks :)

my nandriod backup folder has:

boot.img

cache.img

data.img

nandroid.md5

recovery.img

system.img

one thing, is this desire is a telstra branded phone. Now i have read that i might require a goldcard.

could this be causing the problems I am seeing?

last night I loaded the original RUU on, now I will see if the nandroid restore fixes my apps and stuff...

edit - hrmm the original RUU has removed CWM recovery... i will load up unrevoked3 again...
[Desire General] EroThraX:
You shouldn't need a goldcard with ClockworkMod, I didn't need one for my branded Desire.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Budadank:
Hi,

Normally I would not condone this kind of behaviour, but here goes:

My brand new desire dropped out of my pocket while getting out of the car after only having it for 5 days or so. I was so gutted I almost cried like a girl in front of my Mrs over a phone! I bought it SIM free for £400 which was even more painful. Thankfully it landed butter side up and there was only very slight damage to the rubberised casing at the bottom.

I want to fake a fault so I can send it back and swap it under the 28 days rule. Has anyone got any idea how I would fake a bootloop/hang? I thought about flashing lots of different roms over the top of one another without wiping. Obviously using the fakeflash method rather than Unrevoked perma-recovery.

I guess there would be something I can do via ADB to a rooted ROM that's a little more precise?

I'm so ashamed I'm resorting to this, but let's face it, these companies make loads of money from us. They'll just send it back to HTC and it will be reconditioned.

TIA!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cgrec92:
lmao! this made my day :D

just put it in the microwave, this will stop it from turning on

send it back saying it one day it got really hot and then it wouldnt turn on again :)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rchatburn:
This is a good way of doing this and is quite reproducible for me any how create a custom scene or two, get a lot of data in the contacts storage by linking accounts to Facebook etc install a home replace ment such as launcher pro beta then go to settings and click clear data in the contacts storage, then in the settings go to htc sense and click clear defaults l, hope fully now when you press home it will ask you to choose a default home again then choose sense, it should now be force closing on ever 5 seconds.

You can fix this by using the search button to search for settings and factory restore, all the while getting a force close message, then factory restore.

I don't condone this action, but it works for me every time.

Good luck lol.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MasDroid:
You put a partially metal object into a microwave! Although you managed to destroy the electrical components of the phone, you could also potentially do damage to the microwave itself and set your house on fire!

Real smart :rolleyes:
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Budadank:
Yeh, cheers for that. I was thinking more along the lines of something that was reversible should they refuse to exchange the phone. Your suggestion is a little more permanent than I'd like.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tander_ZA:
Oh grow up and just be more careful with the phone next time. No need to resort to fraud.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dneill2006:
Or buy a case :-P
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ZibIeT:
Haha - well it is expensive to get a phone r3paired, i just payed 285 EUR to get my screen changed on my Desire
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rchatburn:
Technically it wouldn't be fraud, if you created a boot loop that shouldn't exsist. The old fit for purpose and as described law in the UK would cover this. Know the law own the law imop lol.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SiL3nTKiLL:
naw its not fraud...
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tinker2000:
28 day rule

PS: There is actually no 28 day rule; this is a total myth, it is merely a policy offered by some of the large electriocal retailers to get one over their competitors.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tander_ZA:
Sorry guys, it's fraud, either way you look at it.

Firstly, by inducing the boot up loop, using modified ROMs etc, you're voiding the warranty. You're then getting HTC to replace the phone for you under false pretense = Fraud. :rolleyes:

Like someone suggested - buy a case for it.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kejaro:
and then claim on your house insurance.
[Vibrant General] pearlblues:
I think i am having somewhat of a unique problem with this. My "use network to determine location" setting isnt working. When i first turn on or reboot the phone it will find my location as usual. But as soon as i have turned the GPS on this setting will no longer work. Once i turn GPS off it no longer uses the cell towers to determine my location. In fact, when i turn GPS off, my location on google maps jumps back to where i was before i turned GPS on. So when i did this at home, it told me i was still near my work, which is 10 miles away. Anyone else have this issue? It is very frustrating when using an app like sherpa or yelp because it is lot looking for stuff anywhere near where i am.
[Vibrant General] orateam:
odd problem. i've read similar things about the gps. Maybe i'm just close to the sattelites, but i get great GPS. In fact, this is the best GPS i've ever gotten from a phone. I've had a ton of smartphones with GPS including blackberry, iphone, iphone 3g, Htc Hero, HTC EVO, and now this Vibrant.

This is the first time, i've had a phone GPS that stayed in the lane the entire way i drove home. Plus it was always right on the spot without delay. The only grievance was it took about a minute to sync up. Reminded me of the old TOMTOM devices and their 1 minute syncs. But once it got going, it was spot on.
[Vibrant General] pearlblues:
This is not a GPS issue. It does take me a little bit to connect to GPS, but i am mainly concerned with being able to use the network to determine my location. This function uses less battery than GPS but still works for things like sherpa and Yelp.
[Vibrant General] pearlblues:
Wow...I wsa hoping this was going to be a hot issue that other people were experiencing. This makes me think i should exchange my phone because i have some sort of defect. Please, any opinions...
[General Questions and Answers] pearlyn:
Hi,

I'm on HTC tattoo, and my contacts are duplicated on the people application. This is strange, as they all say phone contacts (thus aren't sim or google contacts or anything), but on view settings, it says I have 300 or so contacts which is how many I have if they were NOT duplicated.

I have tried restarting my phone.

I also noticed that only contacts synced with Facebook seemed to be duplicated, and for some, status only appears on one. I have attempted deleting one of two of a same contact, but this resulted in the other entry being deleted too.

I sincerely hope that anyone who has advice/ suggestions or has faced such a problem and resolved it could offer some help. Thank you!
[HD2 General] d33f:
Recently i received my phone back from repairs.

They had the mainboard replaced, so when i got it back i checked every feature of the phone to see if everything works fine.

I was astonished when i made a photo and didn't see the famous pink spot i used to have (like many others with a HD2).

I send it in with 1.66 NLD and got it back with the exact same rom so i guess they haven't change anything software related. Furthermore i noticed the cam inside the glass isn't exactly in the middle like i should be.

Could this have solved the pinkspot ? (cam not exactly in the middle ?)
[HD2 General] stoolzo:
wasnt the pink spot issue resolved with an update, I dont get it anymore, I assumed the updated was cooked into the ROM.
[HD2 General] d33f:
before the repairs i had this specific hotfix installed but you could still see the pinkish spot(furthermore the update was there to compensate a hardware fault, so the problem is still noticeable), but now it is completly gone.
[Desire General] max_carpenter:
I hate T-Mobile!!!!! Well I love them up until now.

Theytold me when I renewed my contract over a week ago that the HTC Desire was in high demand and it would take 10 days to deliver! Ok not a problem they are now telling me though they have no idea when they will be able to get it to me and advised me to phone my local store (as I deal with the contact center). My local store is refusing to answer the phone and I have tried T-Mobile stores all across the county and they all have massive waiting lists and not accepting any more names :-(

They also said they would buy from Carphone Warehouse but none of their stores are answering the phones......

My last attempt one of the suppliers my company deals with on a weekly basis have 5 HTC Desires sitting in the warehouse ready for purchase but T-Mobile are refusing to let me get it from there! I can't afford to buy it myself and I don't see any harm in them buying it from there for me. They gave me the reason that each supplier gets a different price for it so I replied with well I will pay the difference (wouldnt be alot surely) but then they changed their story saying we are not allowed to purchase from companies that are not T-Mobile Accredited!!!!

This is winding me up now. Its my birthday tomorrow and I really want my new phone but I can't afford to buy one myself!!!!!

Sorry just having a rant. Anyone here work for a T-Mobile store and can get me one on my contract? :-P
[Desire General] Deleted member 2496007:
Man that sucks. I don't think its just t mobiles fault. Htc are having a mere getting hold of the AMOLED screens, as the manufacturers (samsung) are keeping them to themselves for their galaxy s phones. (and are probably enjoying having their main rival in the android handset market over a barrel.)

Could be some time for htc to get the phone altered to use the SLCD screens. Google amoled + htc + samsung for a better explanation than mine!

In the mean time, what is t mobiles "cooling off period" for sending a handset back after it being supplied? You could use this opportunity to try out the competition, and send the thing back before the dead line and try something else!

Make enough of a nuisance of yourself and you may move up the priority list!

Who knows, you may end up liking either a sony x10 or a galaxy s. If I could not have a desire, I'd lean towards the galaxy s.
[Desire General] EddyOS:
That's a bit out of order from Samsung, if they had an agreement they have to fulfill it with HTC...
[Desire General] Afro Az:
Well when my Desire stopped vibrating I called up T-Mobile (This was within the first week of release) and the rep told me they had around 900 Desires in that morning and by 16:46 the same day they had 54 left. I got number 52 as two had been sold whilst I was explaining my problem. That was in April.

So either the phone is much more popular than I thought and HTC can't make them quick enough (which is likely due to AMOLED shortages) or they didn't expect such a high demand after the initial early adopter phase (First month).
[Desire General] kevinsmbuk:
Sounds like you are not making enough fuss to customer services!

I phoned orange up a couple of months ago as I was getting the same stuff.

First they said they were in stock and I could have a really decent contract with free phone!!!, but... literally phoned about 20 mins later to make an order and it had changed to 300 mins less and £50 for the phone! and the best part was they said stock would be another 2 weeks to a month and I can't go on the waiting list as it's full!

Pissed off, I decided to go to high street stores to get a more expensive contract and alas, no-one had any and if they did I was told that the tariff I was on would mean I would have to pay £75 for the phone!!!

So I got home, got myself in a strop and phoned orange to complain, funny enough they added me to the list (before it was full), they said when the phone was in stock they would text me and as soon as the text came through I needed to call them straight away as it was first come first serve after the text was received.

Patiently waiting (not) I decided to call the next day to find out whether it had come in, they said yes and were sending the texts out to everyone now, with 6000 odd people on the list I didn't fancy my chances!

Somehow while trying to get them to haggle on the contract (cancellations dept) which they did in the end - gave me a great contract, god opened up the heavens and I got my text whilst on the phone, the lady sounded like she didn't believe but I gave her the code and she said congrats and that I could reserve a black one!!

The next day there is my shiny new Desire on my doorstep!!!

The End... lol
[Desire General] stats101:
they seem to have it in stock on the t-mob website:

http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/pay-monthly/htc-desire/mobile-tariffs/
[Desire General] djoni1980:
Judging by reports, galaxy s is the best sold phone in South Korea ever since it was released, and it surpased Iphone in sale numbers around the world. Samsung is planning to sell 10 million pieces of this phone...
[Desire General] max_carpenter:
T-Mobile and their stores are getting regular deliveries but because there is such a backlog they go before they even reach the shelf!

I spent the whole day on the phone to T-mobile yesterday they were phoning around all the stores in the county as well as Carephone Warehouse (who none of their stores were answering)

There was stock at one of our local suppliers but T-Mobile refused to purchase from there.

I finally late yesterday managed to get hold of Carphone Warehouse local to me who told me they had sold 10 that day and there was 1 left so I told them to hide that phone and keep it for me and went down there after work and collected so I finally have my Desire :-)

T-Mobile did lie though and said it would be free but I had to pay another £30 to get it :-( - Better than waiting for months though :-P
[Desire General] max_carpenter:
By the way I don't like the Samsung's

Not a device for me :-)
[Desire General] Deleted member 2496007:
Good news. You'll love this phone. Give the battery a few charge cycles before expecting to see it's full performance tho. Its worrying at first!
[Desire General] wr8_utd:
You should have switched to another network :D
[Desire General] max_carpenter:
Well wr8_utd, There is that option but using the points below you can see why I dont:

> o2 - Had very poor experiences and hate them - My company used them as well when I fist joined and nothing but problems

> Orange - Poor to no signal in my local area

> 3 - Heard lots of problems about them

> Small dealers like Tesco - Can't offer me what I want

> Virgin - My dads on it and he doesn't get a signal anywhere! No point in having a mobile

> Vodafone - Possibly a viable option - Who my company is currently with and apart from two months having a bill around £6,000 for one handset they have been good.

> T-Mobile - I have been a very loyal customer for I think it must be about 6 years now (back when they were 1-to-1?) That gives me negotiation points

> T-Mobile - I have brought many customers to them over the last few years through my account - again adding to my negotiation powers

> T-Mobile - Always offer me exactly what I want (even when they don't have a contract that offers exactly what I want) - For instance When I wanted the HD2 to get it free their cheapest contract was £40 per month. I told them I wanted that phone for free but only pay £30 per month + wanted unlimited internet but I was happy to juggle min and texts with them and they were happy to comply

> T-Mobile - One of the best Customer Support Centres I have ever experienced. apart from one or two prats over there who don't know what they are talking about they are normally very kind / generaly know what they are talking about / normally answer quite quickly (until recently but select that you are leaving them and they answer very quickly :-P )

> For what I am on every other network seems to charge me more

> HTC Desire - Seems out of stock with every network...

Now you can see my logic behind sticking with them. :-)
[Desire General] wr8_utd:
Hehe yeah I can see why now :D

Is it out of stock at stores as well now?

Oh and how is the 3 Network?
[Desire General] max_carpenter:
As I said above I haven't personally used the 3 network but I haven't heard a single good word about it, its all been bad so I am not tempted to go near them.

All the T-mobile stores have massive waiting lists, Online shops all over the place say out of stock. All my suppliers at work apart from one our out of stock (even the mobile specialists suppliers are out of it) So I imagine its the same all round. The trick is to keep trying every day I was lucky, Our local carephone warehouse received stock in the morning I was ringing them all day but they were under staffed and too busy to answer the call. Finally got through to them abour 2pm and they had one left which they hid away and reserved for me :-)
[Desire General] mancuk29:
Nothing wrong with 3 UK service is improved from their call centre and shops are fab .. good deals as well plus the bombed all other companies out of the water £349.99 for unlocked unbranded desire when they first came out

Give em a go oh and very few two year contracts most eighteen months
[Desire General] mancuk29:
Oh forgot to add they were poor at beginning when they first started hence poor reports but honest they are probably on of the best now (just get unbranded handset if you do their firmware updates are the only issue )
[Desire General] agent.m:
2 other option is

1) Get them to buy a nexus one for you and flash it

2) Get a wildfire :)
[Desire General] wr8_utd:
I intend to get one of the 3 Desire deals and unlock it. Will I have any issues after I unlock it?
[Desire General] legartas:
meteor

i had problems getting my desire too, it was meteor in ireland i vent to 3 shops and they said they don't have them in stock and the third shop guy said they dont have it and he offered legend instead but some miracle happened when i said no he went to check stock second time and he brought phone over, they are acting strange ..
[Desire General] matisamd:
i hate t-mobile i have been with them over 8 years and they still treat me like S**T i only stay with them as its cheapest option but there like virgin terrible Cusomer support but as long as you never have to deal with them its mostly good. i personally went and got a desire off ebay 280 new, and a £10 pay monthly sim which was cheapest option and didnt tie me into a long contract which i hate especially with a company i dont like lol. mind you all phone companies need a slap for using the word unlimited to mean limited how much more proof do you need the benter then a 50p note.
[Desire General] wilbur-force:
i had huge problems. Upgraded to a desire which they told me would be delivered the next day (a saturday). waited in all morning and it never arrived. rung T-Mobile back and was told that it hadnt been dispatched and it wouldnt be for 2 weeks as there were none in stock !

I wasnt a happy bunny ! eventually i convinced them to let me pick one up at carphone warehouse and they would credit me with the extra £30 that CW charge for the phone compared with T-Mobile. Rung the local CW who had plenty of stock and picked up my shiny Desire that same day :)

Hassle T-Mobile. keep asking to speak to a manager ......
[Desire General] max_carpenter:
Wow really T-mobile bad experience, first time I have heard that. I always get an amazing service even from Technical support (which I have used quite a few times over the years)

I have only ever had a problem with a couple of their technical team and I just hang up and phone back took me awhile to sort out a stuck voicemail notification one but we just turned of voicemail all together as I don't need it and its fine now.

I can honestly say T-Mobile offer the best service where I am (actually the whole of Sussex) I know people on Vodafone / o2 / Orange / Virgin / 3 and not only do they all complain about customer services but when ever they are on the move their calls always drop and lots of dead spots. Local to me I can get a signal everywhere apart from one small dip, I even get a signal all the way through a small village that to my knowledge is a known blackspot and all networks cuts out there (apart from mine). My finacee's work collegue has 3 and she said she really struggles to get a signal in most of the town we live in where as on T-mobile I get a full HSPDA signal all over even in the forest.

To be honest I am not interested in looking at 3 mainly because of the reports (that I still hear) and T-mobile offer me exactly what I want with a great service for the price I want to pay.... I have managed to get 6 people join T-mobile in the last year in the same town as me (which I think help activate HSPDA in our area as it wasn't a year ago :-P ) and they are all extreamly happy and say its much better then their previous provider (most of them where on o2 or orange)