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[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] dpchem:
Interesting. I wonder how the battery actually reports the charge percentage to the phone. Does the phone just measure the voltage? When I switch from OEM battery to the "fake" batter which was charged in the wall charger and then switch back to the original battery it reports the charge lower than it should be, I think. The percentage drop is 3-5 times slower for the OEM battery so it looks like the phone thinks that it has the lower charge than the battery really has when the batteries were switched.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] kyiori:
how long does the wall charger take to charge the battery to full? i heard it is 6hrs long! anyone can confirm the charging time? thanks!
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] appagom:
@depchem.. I don't know how the phone keeps track of charge. Voltage (EMF, unloaded voltage) is a pretty good indicator and certainly the simplest one, and probably only one for a unseen battery. I've heard rumor of calibrations being very off for a swapped battery or new flash or something, and I don't see how that happens. Full is always 4.2 (or maybe 4.3 for some chemistries) and empty is always defined as the cutoff voltage... in between isn't linear and maybe it calibrates by monitoring/remembering real current usage some (tricky since the curve and even capacity depend a little on how fast you drain it, but then these devices never really drain fast so maybe it's ok.. RC guys drain high perfomance batteries in a matter of minutes sometimes). I wouldn't necessarily expect it to ever be better than 5 % accurate or consitent between batteries, especially right after swapping, but maybe after a cycle or two, all the monitoring and corrections have gotten that good, I don't know. Still I don't see how it could ever read 100% when it's really 30% either... when it's really 80% maybe, 70 possibly if you switched chemistry (still talking lithium here, just the variant, and probably shouldn't be doing that). I've had one about 10% off before.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] gnoelnahc:
bloop! just an update on these batteries, if anyone is interested. i lost one of my batteries, so i only have one left. and its performing beautifully. its been running for almost 6 hours since the last full charge, my wifi is on, with two widgets updating every 30 minutes, and whatsapp doing its draining thingy. but! my battery is still at 93%. nice.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] dlarge:
Received mine yesterday. Tried to charge the first battery, but the charger broke down after like half an hour. I'm not sure if the battery killed the charger or the charger just broke down.

I'm still very happy with the micro usb cable, but I won't use the batteries since they might start leaking or so.

I've send the seller on ebay a message to inform him/her about my experiences. Got no answer yet.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Meza1:
It may sound convenient but you may regret it in the future! I find that neither of these two batteries or my original Samsung one last much more that 5-6hours now. This is really frustrating now, as I have to carry a few spare batteries with me in order to get through a day.

I think the wall charger destroys them.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Meza1:
Also I'm wondering... how does the phone cope with constantly switching between 3 different batteries with different levels and rates of charge/discharge? Batterystats file must become useless?
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] dlarge:
update:

Received an answer on my email and they promised me new ones.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] 2dorr:
http://cgi.ebay.com/EU-USB-Wall-Hom...766298?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item1e5e29085a

This can be used on Galaxy? It says - Output: 5V 1A
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] chimerical26:
Recieved my package today. Perfect. Exactly as described. Charging one of the batterys now. Overall so far I am delighted that I recieved all of that for £8.45... unbeatable.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] sonci:
Received mine today,

up with the charge

Are you sure these batteries are fake, because they`re just the same, even the weigh, except G7 mark is bigger on the "fake" ones,
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] sean2476:
Dont know if they are fake but I have had mine for aver a month now and performance is exactly the same I feel compared to the OEM battery. I like the idea that you can charge the batteries outside the phone
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] kyiori:
Is it fine to charge the spiderfoot's battery in your Galaxy S by the USB cable from the computer?

Has anyone tried it? Will it damage the phone or battery in the run long?
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] My20:
China no.

Power for notebook and 1 day puff notebook
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] sean2476:
Well I have done and continue to do so and not experienced any problems
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] kyiori:
oh ok. how long have u been doing it?

also have you tried using the original samsung charger to charge the spiderfoot batteries? it is ok?
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] AER0:
Well in my criteria of "Fakery" these failed.

This is how I usually judge if a product is fake or not:

1) Analyze physical properties of the item in comparison to original/genuine product.

-The shady battery cover that seems like it could be easily peeled off

-Weight differences between the products

2) Analyze any descriptions and inconsistencies within any description provided.

-Description inconsistencies (within a language or in between various languages)

-Wording, spacing, font type and size.

For legality reasons, manufacturers can't say one thing in English and say another in

a different language; descriptions can't be "off".

Look at your own default Samsung Genuine Battery.

It should state which country it is made in and finished/assembled in, in English.

This should be consistent in all the languages printed.

Also note the font and spacing utilized on the description.

Now, look at your "fake" spare battery you've received.

The font and spacing used should differ in comparison.

(there are exceptions to this at odd times due to variation of label batches,

but are very uncommon)

There should be conflicting info such as:

Stated in English "Made in Japan / Finished in China"

but underneath it stated, "Ensamblado en Corea / Montado na China",

which means it was "Assembled in Korea / Assembled in China".

These type descript errors are quite prevalent in 3rd party fake / spare products

of all kinds, ranging from actual finished products to accessories and parts.

These errors most likely arise due to the items being cheap imitation products / knock offs

with labels' that are falsified 99% of the time, so you can't even identify who really

made em and hold them accountable if your electronic device suddenly bursts into flames

in your pocket while you're driving, letting out a cry of agonizing pain and anger.

Legality issues don't mean squat, thus assemblers / manufacturers don't

waste time on properly translating descriptions, searching for exact font matches, etc.

However, having used the 2 spare batteries, I can honestly say they are a good deal

for their price.

Power retention is not as long as the default battery, as I see an almost noticeable

single percentile difference, especially when I conducting more hardware intensive tasks such as viewing 720p videos or playing 3D games.

(Standby/General power consumption seems to be on par with default battery)

But for the price, I would gladly rate these suckers 4 exploding batteries out of 5. :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] sean2476:
I use the original charger to charge these batteries in my phone and have charged my OEM battery in the Hong Kong charger too for about 6 weeks with no ill effects. The battery life in the Hong Kong batteries are about the same as the Samsung OEM battery. The batteries are cheap but its a godsend knowing that you have a spare battery in your pocket just in case you happen to need it.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] gnoelnahc:
hi, i have received 4 more of these batteries (in a single order).. and guess what! defect!

h t t p : / / imgur . com/ebGcp.jpg for whoever's interested. the bottom cap is detached from the battery, and all 4 batteries are REALLY REALLY TIGHT in the external charge and my phone.

seems like the battery quality changes from batch to batch. my first batch was excellent.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Neris:
Mine look the same but I don't give a damn about that as they still work fine. I've got a real Batterydraining Phone I think, in the 5 to 7 hours of school every day I have to swap Batteries twice to thrice. And even then the Batteries are all relatively drained. The spare ones do last as long as the original one.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Lawliett:
Just got mine. Charged them up as soon as I got them and tried them out. Seems to me like they lose their charge faster than my original battery. Then again, it might just be that they were only used once and will get better over the few initial uses
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Jayanth.M.P:
you need to complete atleast 20 cycles before you can get their actual performance....
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Lawliett:
Ah okay. Wasn't sure about that. Thanks!
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] gnoelnahc:
don't think it actually takes so many cycles? a few ought to do it..

anyway, my new batteries, even though the fit might be a tad too tight for my liking, are performing really well. 7.5 hours of continuous video and background updating of Facebook and twitter widgets every 5 minutes(on wifi), and this is on the first charge. (first charge being charged from whatever state they were in when i first received them).

awesome.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] sonci:
Actually my genuine battery says ensamblado in china/montando in china, and then fabrique en coree/finition en china

I think it would more expensive for them to actually build fake batteries than to buy genuine and sell them as non original, theres only one or two battery factories.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] louiswzw:
Original Battery

at the back of the original samsung battery written,

"SAMSUNG SDI LTD MADE FOR SAMSUNG"

and the back of the ebay battery written,

"TIAN JING SAMSUNG WORLD VIEW LTD MADE FOR SAMSUNG"

both in chinese if you can read.

so..... you judge.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] omishi:
yea finally got mine. I used one of them right away after i receive them. Leaving the other in the charger charging. The batteries came with about 60% charge. At first it drained out pretty fast. In about 4 hours i'm down to 10%. Not sure if this is normal. Should i give it a couple full recharge?
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] songyop:
Enough batteries~ ^^

Got these extra batteries after six weeks finally!

However, I am pleased with the performance of these extra batteries.

They seem to work just as well as the original batteries.

On top of these, I got an external battery (5200mAh) that can charge my phone at least three times in one charge. It's called New AnyCharge4 from Korea. It is about the same size as the iCos i5200. The best part is that I only paid about $50 for it!

With two batteries and a high-capacity battery charger, I'm good with my phone's stamina to stay on. :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] kyiori:
i wonder how reliable is the wall charger even thought the battery quality is good.

some people said that the wall charger will destory the battery!
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] gnoelnahc:
one of the batteries just started bulging. manufactured 2010.10.22. the batteries from this batch are slightly too tight inside the phone too. discontinuing its use immediately. have already sent two batteries back because they were not glued properly. ): bad batch.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] kyiori:
i'm also using this patch and the battery life really sucks if you notice it.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] lokhor:
Does anyone know where I could buy an official I9000 battery?
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] efi2222:
Ordered.

Waiting for it to arrive
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] gnoelnahc:
hmmm.. its actually not bad for me! at idle it goes ~1-1.5% per hour, with updating widgets its about ~5% per hour. i charge it only with the wall charger.. anyhow, i'm not that disappointed.. 12USD for 2 batteries which have a 50% chance of turning into crap is cheaper than 38USD for 1 original, stable battery. we're getting minimally 3 times a better deal! :P
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Zvenn:
lol. I bought this package during August, and apparently it only charged the first battery with the wall charger. After I inserted the second one to charge, the wallcharger must have broke, because it's completely dead after trying to charge now.

How dangerous is it to charge the fake batteries inside the phone? :|
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Ticiano:
I bought thid bateries too and I hope this things just dont blow inside the phone destroying the SGS and a part of my face... :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] kyiori:
there are many who tried. and it is 99% safe. and it is better to charge the battery in your phone to keep your battery fresh.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] orkitect:
Using for last 10 days

I got this 10 days back and am using this without any issues. I am switching between stock battery and the extra i got in my phone and the back up is more or less the same. I see that both batteries are very similar to the stock ones except the fact that the stock ones have a small square barcode. I am pretty happy with this purchase.

Even the screen protectors are good for the price. i am using them and dont find any disadvantage or difference in screen resolution.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] aenesias131:
already delivered

i got it from here It took 14 days to came and plugged it for the first time, charged in 2 hours in wall charger. It looks ok and hope it goes like that :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] hellchan:
just ordered one myself, not expecting anything great from them at the price, but that bit of juice is useful when on the go or travelling.

But honestly most of the time when my sgs battery is depleting, I just plug it into the pc to charge at work, so I'm kinda buying these outa curiosity.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Ticiano:
Guy, my batery and charger just arrived and I put to charge and the blue led never chaged... I know the bateries didn't came charged. When I put in the wall I got a blue led and it's blue for something like 4 hours. Is this normal? Take a look:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/58061025@N06/5346687639/
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] iCarumba:
Is the charger 110V or 220V or universal? I am interested with more reviews of this item. I am considering to purchase this 2x battery over 3000mah battery because it looks better and still very convenient.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] diamond69:
you can use your battery! put it in your phone, it should be fine!

red light: battery is charging

blue light: battery is completely charged
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] kyiori:
there is enough reviews and answer you need. for the package with the price given. it is cheap enough to get you 2 battery with 1.5k mAh with 1 wall charger and 3 screen protector.

im still using the battery now, it almost as good as original. both of them are still working fine and i didnt notice any decrease in battery life.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] kennytung:
I found two different images for these battery packs, which one is better quality?

Anyone have used these can tell me, thanks.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] kennytung:
bump up. anyone can help me?
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] kms108:
I have one of those desktop battery chargers, but from a brand call goki, you have to connect a micro usb charger.

the only third party brand i buy is goki and momax, both are Hong Kong brand and are very reliable.

just one question, how many batteries did you get with the i9000, in Hong Kong we get 2 original batteries.

I'm at work, when I get home, I'll try to post some photos of chargers and desktop battery stand that I use.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] kennytung:
Do they ship internationally? I bought my Galaxy S in Vietnam and it comes with only one battery.

Looking forward to see your pictures and thanks for your comments :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] kms108:
this charger i use has a max power of 2000mah, if use a single socket, 1000mah if two is used and 500mah if use all four.

desktop stand for i9000 by goki

HTC original charger at 1000mah

i have used all of the above, and works fine.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] kennytung:
Can you give me the goki website?

I found the Momax battery on the site but the capacity is only 1200mAh?
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] kms108:
the goki site is www.goki.com.hk, if you are going for momax try this its a 2700mah battery,

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=300518612665&index=10&nav=SEARCH&nid=29401794061

http://www.momax.net/en/Product_Show.aspx?ID=1312&T=2

available in black or white.

it's a mobile version site, try searching in ebay for momax.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] kms108:
i have the 2700mah battery with battery lid.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=816581&page=8
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] paddyb:
Could someone repost a link to the original item or seller, as they’ve all expired now.

I’ve seen this one on offer from a UK seller for £9.98 + free delivery with just one battery:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180547477519&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Quite good feedback and don’t have to wait forever for it to arrive from Hong Kong. Is this the same battery and charger as the one that is discussed in this thread?
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] tuxing:
recieved my package today

must say that the icluded items' quality looks great.

need some testing to comment on the battery!
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] scrizz:
lol@ ppl saying fake batteries....

batteries of sub-par quality, lolz

batteries of questionable origin and manufacture, lolz

I personally wouldn't put something like that in an expensive electronic device.

IF you can afford the phone, you can afford a $30-40 battery.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] immyh:
Everything comes from almost the same factories they all use the same generic batteries so as long as we dont over use them its a good deal i think
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] AllGamer:
yay! so that means mine should be arriving soon too, as we ordered the same day... more or less
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] immyh:
ordered mine to thanks for the great suggestions apart from the issues with taking the back on and off i now have enough jiuce to last me afew days. could come in handy
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] ryukent:
Yeah. Mine arrived after 12 days. Very impressed with the quality. Batteries actually seem to last longer than my original. They don't heat up much when charging. Overall I'm very happy with my purchase.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Megacore:
Hmm, this really is quite cheap. Ah well i trust your feedback and will order this..

*crosses finger*
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] ChiGGz:
$14 CND.

Good deal. Thanks OP
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] wheelboy:
after reading the revieuws here i orderd them also .also order 2 silicon back protectors for the samsung .thanks for sharing this
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] newsgroupmonkey:
Yup, I've gone for a set too. Bearing in mind I considered paying £7 last week for an unofficial battery, I might as well go the whole hog :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Meza1:
Arrived this morning, on charge now - we'll see how they go!
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] ChiGGz:
Can you provide a link to back protectors?
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] AllGamer:
he was referring to this topic you are reading, go back a few pages
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] ChiGGz:
I should clarify, I meant the back protectors. Sounds like its just a backplate thats silicone?
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] AllGamer:
hmm... are you sure you replied to the right topic?

this package does not come with a back plate protector.

in the Cases topic there are a lot of info and pictures of many different models
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] AllGamer:
yes!

OMG !!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS SO AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!! :eek:

SWEEEEEEEET!

the 2 batteries are real Samsung G7, not some fake imitations

i can't believe it

the battery charger is of good quality

same with the USB/Charger sync cable

the 3 screen protectors are of good quality too

it even came with 2 freebie, the lanyard and the UK adapter for travellers

this is the best deal ever !

... oh yeah BTW, it just arrived today :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] <<Raj$>>:
Ahhhhhh

I am also waiting for the package to be delivered....

Samsung G7 batteries !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Will wait and see whether my luck goes as your's. :-)
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] shaz.one:
Received mine yesterday. !!!

i am using the "Quality is 100% guaranteed, Not Original" battery now and i am very pleased with the performance . it has been 10 hours 45 minutes in my SGS and the remaining power is still about 45 %.

Wifi = ON,

MP3 = most of the time,

browsing (facebooking, googling)

E-buddy = non stop.

over all i would say the performance is about the same with the original battery :D.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Meza1:
Course they're not real Samsung batteries. They're fakes (pretty good ones), but they work. What would you expect for the price?

For example, the labels are different, the Samsung logo is squashed top-to-bottom compared to an original battery that comes with the phone.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] immyh:
got mine today and yes the quality is very good so i will update you once i have charged it up. Now i can turn on the live wallpapers without fear :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] AllGamer:
same here, i like the mario one running all the time :D

great piece of conversation, more so if you install Gameboid and have those ROMs :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] goodnight65:
ordered mine today.. so we have a look if quality is still the same...

I will post after arrival and testing...

Thank you for the link :-)
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] pharaohdk:
Just got my package tody, the stuff looks fine quality, but ive got no idea how to do a proper comparison of the regular battery and the new ones.

must say im digging the charger and the purple/pink pimp light it has
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] AllGamer:
there's the casual way to test it which is to use your device as you would normally do with its random amount of calls and 3G using the Stock battery, until it drains to 10%

then repeat the same test a day or so later, then compare how long it took to empty the replacement batteries.

if you want to do a real in depth comparison then you can always make the phone to download a huge file over WiFi over and over again, until the battery drains to 10%

it's guaranteed to drain your battery real fast if you keep the WiFi connection running non stop

also keep the screen on all the time

then you can compare how long the stock one runs, and how long the replacement ones run for.

i use the charger to charge both, it's so convenient

that way i prevent damaging the USB port.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] pharaohdk:
okay =) tho im guessing you have done these tests xD care to share your info?

also just found this on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/11-Accessory-Ca...-S-/230505422169?pt=AU_MobilePhoneAccessories

seems okay if there are ppl who havnt ordered the other set yet.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] AllGamer:
at the moment all the G7 batteries are about the same including stock

i'm a heavy 3G / WiFi user

i listed to MP3 via Bluetooth

and use the GPS whenever i'm in the car or Bike

so each battery only last me a good few hours of "play" time

starting from the moment it leaves the charger to the first battery swap is aprox 5~6 hours of continuous use 7~8 if i'm being conservative

so i always carry the extra with me, as soon as the 10% warning comes up, i swap it, then when i get home, i charge it.

the screen is off mot of the time, except when i'm doing stuff online, or browsing the net

like typing this message in the forum over the phone browser