yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Vibrant General] SykesAT:
if you do a search you will find both threads... I just posted to the removing default apps thread so it should be near the top, depending on when you read this. Or look through the posts I've made. I've posted in both of sound and default apps threads.

layer=bloatware see removing apps.

removing apps thread... use root explorer, it makes it so easy. Oh and back up the files on your sd

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=726637

EDIT:

removing startup/shutdown just audio (novice)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=731059&highlight=shutdown

removing startup sequence (pro)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=732311
[Vibrant General] janos97:
How-to's?

I'm curious if you could point me in the direction of disabling the double lock and removing the bloatware without rooting.

I have looked in all the usual places (market, settings -> applications) for bloatware.

Looked in Settings -> Sound & Display for the lock...

Thanks in advance!
[Vibrant General] gravis86:
Wow that's a really long list. The only thing I don't like about the Vibrant is the lack of notification light. The rest is trivial. Why do I say that? Because almost every complaint is related to software, which means we can change it. This is a developer forum, after all :)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StrummingLevi:
So I was trying to root my evo so I could try the fresh rom (please note that this was my first ever root attempt and my phone had the OTA update). I followed the instructions from this guide:

Latest OTA rooted! - Page 2 - Android Central Forums

This is where my problem is:

11. Once back at the Home screen type:

Code:

adb shell

cat /sdcard/flash_image > /data/flash_image

chmod 755 /data/flash_image

/data/flash_image recovery /sdcard/recovery.img

reboot recovery

When I enter the "cat /sdcard/flash_image > /data/flash_image" code I get:

"cannot create /data/flash_image: permission denied"

After some googling I found other people typed "su" prior to typing in the "cat /sdcard/flash_image > /data/flash_image" command. That didn't work for me. I received "su: permission denied" after entering su.

Would going back and starting this tutorial all over cause serious damage? I'm wondering if maybe I messed up earlier.

I'm very worried I really screwed something up. Can anybody please offer up some advice for a newbie?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] J_Tesla:
Weigh the stakes

Man, just try the "SimpleRoot 1.47 OTA update" app for Windows. You save time, money and a lot of feces on your tract by the worries that everything is ok.

Now, I want to remind the stakes. If you haven't looked at my post here at Q&A, I pretty much effed up my phone while being rooted. I don't know if it was too much exposure to heat caused by WiFi Tether, or of mysterious powers regarding the RSA 256 bit encryption update process screwed my phone up. So before trying to crack your phone, please, review the stakes and stay stock.

BTW, you haven't completed the root process, so a simple Factory Reset should do the trick to go back into Stock without any trace of root procedure. That is, if you want to play it safe.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] churchwin88:
Okay, first things first. Just so I'm clear.

1. Which guide(exactly) did you follow?

2. What software version do you have now?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StrummingLevi:
Yeah i was having problems with my administrator password so I switched from simple root to this method. Maybe I was using the wrong version or something, could you post a link to simple root for ota?

1. http: // forum.androidcentral. com/htc-evo-4g-roms-hacks/ 21043-latest-ota-rooted-2. htm

2. My software number is 1.47.651.1

Thanks for the help
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] churchwin88:
For the 1.47 you need to use this version of simple root(if you haven't already) - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=720565

I'm not sure why it would have problems with the password. Only thing I can think of would be something along the lines of not having administrator privileges.

EDIT: Make sure to have all the requirements and if you successfully run that let me know so we can proceed to the next step(it is really simple).
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StrummingLevi:
I did the simple root for 1.47 and it was a success! Although I did not understand what the flash recovery did. I tried the clockwork recovery and it took me to a screen with a bunch of options, but I didn't know what to do so I just rebooted. What's next? I want to try the newest version of the fresh rom.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ifly4vamerica:
TO try fresh first download it and place the zip file on your computer, boot into recovery, (power phone off then hold down volume and power untill you get to the white screen) select flash zip fron sd card then select the fresh rom and flas, presto fresh should flash, the recovery is a seperate area which is used to flash a rom, as you cant flash a rom from within a rom.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StrummingLevi:
So do I use the clockwork recovery to flash the fresh rom? I was looking at the guide to flash the new fresh rom and it says that I need to have nand unlocked. How do I do that?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ifly4vamerica:
if you did simpleroot nand should be unlocked, and yes clockwork recovery is used to flash the fresh rom. clockwork recovery is what you are in when you boot with the down volume and power button held down. If it doesnt work you may want to try amon ra recovery, find the toast root method and do the last step:

- on your PC open a shell again and do:

Code:

adb shell

cat /sdcard/flash_image > /data/flash_image

chmod 755 /data/flash_image

/data/flash_image recovery /sdcard/recovery.img

reboot recovery

- you should now be in recovery mode

- do a wipe of data and dalvik cache

- navigate to nandroid restore and restore the previous rom setup

- come here to the forum, get and flash the latest radio

- enjoy... you can now reboot into recovery, write to system and other partitions while in Android. Also you now have a Engineering SPL so you can fastboot and much more.

It also wont hurt to do the whole part two of toasts guide if you dont think your nand is unlocked. FYI Nand unlocking allows both a read write option in the recovery which is needed to write the custom roms.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jerryparid:
Your nand is unlocked. Just download Fresh, boot into recovery, wipe caches, and apply Fresh via zip file.

Ignore this post, unless you want to flash Fresh with Amon Ra Recovery instead of Clockwork Recovery (what you have now)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ifly4vamerica:
Agreed, I was only posting that "if" he had problems using clockwork sorry for the confusion.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StrummingLevi:
So I decided I was going to use Amon Ra's recovery because flipz recommended it. That was going well until "- navigate to nandroid restore and restore the previous rom setup". I selected nandroid restore and it said something like /sdcard/nandroid not found. Aster that I just rebooted , which took a while and had me pretty nervous. It eventually booted up though. This stuff is a lot more confusing than windows mobile was haha. I'm wondering if nandroid was indeed unlocked with simple root. I'm still willing to press forward if the help is still available. By the way, what and how can I make a nandroid backup?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ifly4vamerica:
Turn phone off, turn phone on holding down volume and power, when you get to white screen select recovery then scroll through your options, i believe it it backup/restore then creat nandroid backup, FYI you cant restore a nandroid backup if you haven't created one, IE the not found error you got before.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StrummingLevi:
Ok so how exactly would I go about flashing(if that's even the right word) fresh rom from what I already have?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ifly4vamerica:
I'm not sure what you actually have, can you get to recovery, then the option to 'flash zip from sd card? if you have that option just place the fresh rom on the root of your sd card (put the zip file there and don't open the zip) then reboot to recovery, ie vilume down and power button when you get to white screen volume down to recovery, then flash zip from sd then select the fresh rom zip, then hit power button to select, hit power button again to confirm and away you go.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StrummingLevi:
Ok that sounds simple enough. I can't thank you guys enough for all your help. What does a nandroid backup do?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ifly4vamerica:
it makes a copy of your rom basically, so say you put on fresh do a nandroid backup then flas CM6, you decide you dont like CM6, so you nandroid restore of your fresh and presto right back to where you were before you flashed CM6, also useful if you have screwed something up ... you can go back ... make sense?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] W3bbo:
I'd like to extend my gratitude to RustyGrom and others (if there are any) for the work on unlocking the developer builds of WP7, but I was wondering what where we are in relation to 'rooting' WP7 so we can run our own unsigned binaries and possibly even getting the stock Windows CE shell and software running on WP7 instead of the Metro UI.

I've heard unconfirmed and uncorroborated rumours of Microsoft's plans to allow native development eventually, but my friends who work at Microsoft really give me the impression that the Managed-only rule is here to stay, in which case it will be up to people like us to get it working.

My initial thoughts are that the hardware HTC and other mfgs produce will have a firmware flash function, so it's just (in my naive mind) a matter of dumping the ROM, making the right changes, and re-flashing the device, assuming there isn't a requirement the new ROM image is signed by Microsoft or the OEM.

Windows CE wasn't built with a hypervisor in mind (unlike the PS3) so I'm curious as to how the sandbox is implemented, and how an attack could be forged against the platform. If we get something working on the emulator would it work on the physical devices?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Da_G:
IIRC policies are requested by xml configuration files located in a .xap.

I haven't yet looked deeply into this, but I would assume it works similarly to CE5.x/WM6.x: that is, if the .xml requests a higher security level than the norm (say, SECLEVEL_EXEC_NATIVE_CODE for example), the .xap deployment system would check the .xap certificate against the internal certificate store. If a match is found to the right security level (Root at first, later OEM, probably never User), the application is allowed to install, if not, the installation is denied.

So, elevating privledges to execute native code should be easy to do with filesystem level access, we inject our own certificate to the root certificate store, sign the .xap with that certificate, and deploy away.

NOTE: This is an educated assumption, i've not actually examined the restriction system in depth yet.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] tyrannus:
Sortof. You could use those "Interop" methods and go native. It worked for me with a lot of tough luck.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] microhaxo:
The word windows and "Rooting" should never ever be used together. The term rooting obviously is being grossly misused.

Root is the user in linux that is given full and complete access to all system resources.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] W3bbo:
P/Invoke and Interop don't work on WinPho because the functionality required is disabled in the sandbox environment, or possibly not even present in the version of the CLR they're using.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Tom Servo:
Look, it's W3bbo!
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] W3bbo:
Wtflol. Hey Toiletbrush, haven't seen you around for a while. Didn't you get banned from C9 or something?

(I'm still active on SA btw, just under a different username)
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Tom Servo:
Naw, I was on an Anti-MS binge for three years until few weeks ago. Took Oracle screwing up OpenSolaris. That and I wanted a Windows Phone. Kinda useless without Windows.

Mod edit: Please watch your language
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] yekafe:
For the main:V can't run wp7 on our HD2:(
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] anaadoul:
I am thinking of the other way around, getting xaml and xap to run on wm6, the hd2 is quite capable of running them. Wp7 runs cf3.7 and we can start from there. Maybe we need to identify the required assemblies and copy them. Defiantly it won't be fully supported, launchers will not work for example but it might be a good shot.

I'm not a core coder or hacker, but when it comes to logic I'm optimistic, it might be possible.

I would love to see silverlight running on wm.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] OndraSter:
You are really optimistic.

WP7 is compiled against armv7, where WM is compiled against armv4i...
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] anaadoul:
ARM v7 has nothing to do with .net assemblies, that us why we need .net cf to run apps built using .net

Now the question is, is the .net cf responsible for running xap packages or is it another framework (like on pc, you need sl runtime)

Afak, it is the cf.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] aznwannabe358:
I read every post and understood nothing. You guys are on another level with your tech jargon. Lol.

Sent from Android HD2 using XDA app
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] OndraSter:
The JIT compiler (or what is used in CF version) that loads assemblies is compiled against armv7 and these assemblies can't be run on our compiler.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] anaadoul:
Assemblies are not compiled against a platform or a CPU Architecture, they are compiled against a .NET Framework version to an IL.

The JIT is the different one, it is a native code so it is compiled to V7 in Windows Phone 7, but we have it already (JIT) compiled against ArmV4 (as in .net cf)
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] TehPenguin:
Unlike Java, the IL that .NET compiles is actually CPU specific. This is why you can specify the CPU type when compiling a (desktop) .NET application (either x86, x64 or Itanium).

XAP files on Windows Phone 7 run on top of a modified version of Silverlight. Silverlight has its own runtime engine, and does not reference the .NET libraries at all (they just happen to share namespaces and classes to make coding easier). To get WP7 applications to run on WM6.5 you would need to recompile Silverlight.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] hounsell:
Not true. The MSIL itself is CPU-independent. The reason you can chose to specify the architecture when compiling is for .NET Applications that depend on external native-code libraries. Obviously, in those cases, the default "Any CPU" option just causes a nightmare, as the framework then chooses the architecture of the JIT compiler, meaning different dependencies for different machines. Selecting an architecture inserts data telling the JIT compiler what architecture it must use.

That said, what you go on to say about Silverlight is true. Silverlight does not depend on the .NET Framework on the desktop, or the .NET Compact Framework on CE or WP7 (though the compiler for Silverlight does require the .NET Framework). Strictly speaking, the only thing they share in common is the CLR, the libraries are all recreated and re-engineered for their specific purpose. The Libraries share the names simply to enable software developers to re-use as much desktop code as possible.

(Note: I think this is all correct, though I'll be the first to admit that I am much more experienced with Desktop .NET than the mobile equivalent).

Silverlight on WP7 will undoubtedly have native dependencies too, just like the .NET Framework and the .NET Compact Framework (both make extensive use of existing Windows APIs, of course).

Therefore, it'd take a Moonlight-style project (The Mono equivalent of Silverlight, enabling Silverlight applications to run on Linux) in order to bring Silverlight to Windows Mobile classic.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] anaadoul:
If silverlight doesn't need the .net cf then

1) why is it included in wp7 (.net cf 3.7)

2) how can we use compiled assemblies (.net) inside silverlight?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] TehPenguin:
1) XNA uses the .NET framework

2) The assemblies must target the Silverlight runtime, as such any assembly compiled for the .NET runtime will not work
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Tom Servo:
I don't know, maybe because a lot of the base system's written in not-Silverlight managed code?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] walshieau:
Silverlight & XNA sit on top of .NET CF 3.7. Which is why its required on Windows Phone 7.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Ca5c4d3:
I am sure there is a .net cf 3.7 for armv4 somewhere. Embedded SDK or Platform Builder?

I also doubt that XNA, SL & .NET 3.7 CF are pretty much the same runtime. I think they are 3 different smaller frameworks.

Edit: they are indeed different frameworks. And you can only call some assemblies between them:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff402528(VS.92).aspx
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] walshieau:
Yes they're all different frameworks but sit on the SAME CLR. XNA sits on top of Silverlight, which itself, sits on top of the .NET CF 3.7
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] RustyGrom:
XNA does NOT sit on silverlight, couldn't be further from the truth.

XNA is basically a .net interface for DirectX that is very focused on gaming. It's texture/polygon driven and uses a single looping thread for rendering the display.

SilverLight is an abstraction of .net that provides rendering of XAML, basically WPF for .net. SilverLight is focused on security as it was originally designed for the web. It is event driven and functions much like we've come to expect from most "normal" applications where user actions raise events.

So yea, they're both basically .net extensions/abstractions that are very much reliant on the .Net platform however both add on and but at the same time only offer a subset of the base CLR. For example, there's no socket support but that very much exists in the CLR while there is support for touch input in SilverLight that doesn't exist (natively) in the base CLR.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] walshieau:
Again, incorrect,

XNA infact, uses functions from Silverlight at its core.

Silverlight ISN'T WPF and is far from it. Silverlight on the phone, isn't designed with security in mind, all of that is removed from the Phone edition, along with WebBrowser support and GPU acceleration (just to name a few).

XNA is a game loop driven paradigm which calls out to native DirectX to perform the rendering and drawing.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] RustyGrom:
XNA first launched in March 2006. SilverLight first released in 2007 and was originally called WPF/E (the "E" being "everywhere"). SilverLight doesn't exist on Xbox 360 or Zune. With those FACTS in mind, it's patently impossible that XNA is based on SilverLight. It's just not true. They're both independent of each other. On WP7, you can make utilize some of the XNA libraries from SilverLight and vice versa but that's just the platform agnostic stuff.

SilverLight on the phone might be even more locked down than the browser/desktop version. See the lack of socket support, among other things. SilverLight on WP7 is fully GPU accelerated. That's just a fact. You can find many references to this in MSDN technical documentation among other places.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] walshieau:
I didn't mention Silverlight on Xbox or Zune. I simply said that on Windows Phone 7, parts of XNA are built on top of Silverlight.

Silverlight on the phone isn't more locked down, it just doesn't have the desktop features as the CLR doesn't support it.

And the words "Silverlight" and "fully GPU accelerated" shouldn't exist in the same sentence together. As not everything is GPU accelerated. To view what is, simply set "Application.Current.Host.Settings.EnableCacheVisualization = true" to see what textures are being handed to the GPU to be rendered.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] RustyGrom:
I didn't mean to imply that EVERYTHING is handled by the GPU but rather everything that makes sense to be is. Keep moving the goal posts. XNA is not built on top of SilverLight. They leverage features from each other but they are siblings, not parent-child.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] walshieau:
XNAFrameworkCore is C++.

Open the other XNA libraries up in .NET reflector and you'll see
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] RustyGrom:
I'll see what? Of course the core is C++. Just like the core of SilverLight and the .net CLR. What's your point?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] walshieau:
You'll see what its compiled against.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] RustyGrom:
And what will that prove?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] TehPenguin:
Can we please try to keep this thread on topic?

Thank you
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Intervenient:
Will rooting be able to get rid of bloat ala Android rooting? I just read that AT&T plans to have their own hub of apps, making me wonder if everyone else will follow suit :/
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] paperclips:
All those apps and hubs are uninstallable. This was part of the WP7 guidelines.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Intervenient:
Saaweeeeeet!
[Desire General] blue_chip18:
After going from 2.1 T-Mobile Eclair Rom to Modaco R5 2.2 Froyo Rom, i can't open wave Attachements. I am using HTC Mail and K9 Mail too. Same Problem with both.

PDF Attachements is possible to open with HTC Mail only. K9 tell me a missing header but i am using this option in the settings, without any positive result.

Is this an Froyo bug? Changed settings in HTC Mail from standard only 25kb limit to complete mail download, but i can't open Attachements. If i try to open wave files the media player opens and tell me unknown format. What goes wrong, please help me. I need the wave attachements, because these are my missed phone calls with messages.
[EVO 4G Accessories] thunderchicken02:
This is a BRAND NEW, UNOPENED bluetooth headset from Jawbone. All earpieces/documentation are included. The headset is the "Thinker" style, which is black. The first two pictures are to illustrate the contents of the box, but are not of the headset I have (because I have not opened the box). The third picture illustrates the style and color of the "Thinker". Reviews of this product are very good, and retails for $100. Make an offer.

edit: posted in wrong forum. Can a mod move this to General Accessories?
[EVO 4G Accessories] thunderchicken02:
Still for sale, price dropped to $55.
[EVO 4G Accessories] jerryparid:
MSRP $100, Retail for $70. Can get it from eCost for $48 + shipping, or eBay for $60 shipped.

Saves you the grief of dealing with third party seller without paypal/credit card protection.
[EVO 4G Accessories] thunderchicken02:
Nobody is twisting your arm to buy it from me. Make your decision and be happy. I'm asking $55 SHIPPED which i think is completely reasonable. Paypal protects all transactions btw.

:)

And why would you bother posting in my thread if you're not interested in the product? Trying to convince others to not buy from me? Nice.
[EVO 4G Accessories] thunderchicken02:
Have had offers but nobody has come through..still for sale.
[EVO 4G Accessories] scl23enn4m3:
Interested in a Evo InvisibleShield as a partial trade?
[EVO 4G Accessories] thorpe24:
Might pick t up gotta see reviews
[EVO 4G Accessories] thunderchicken02:
I already have Bodyguardz screen protectors, sorry!
[EVO 4G Accessories] jerryparid:
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Jawbone-I...=17718871242977845996&wmlspartner=lw9MynSeamY

$49 with free shipping from Wallyworld
[EVO 4G Accessories] x iFLaWz:
^Pwned. Lol
[EVO 4G Accessories] thunderchicken02:
Someone just make an offer. Want this thing gone.