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[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Samsunguy:
21:03	gauner1986	rajko: i finished my sense-rom btw

21:03	Rajko	you wizard

21:03	gauner1986	rajko: got it down to 180mb

21:03	gauner1986	:P

21:04	gauner1986	by squashfsing app and framework dir

21:04	Rajko	now make it boot without /bin and our initscript

21:04	Rajko	we got rmnet going yet ?

21:04	gauner1986	no

21:05	Rajko	damn, stil need pppd

21:05	gauner1986	still suffers from no traffic :P

................................................................................

UPDATE:

21:10	Rajko	no corruption since 12. oct

21:10	Rajko	DomZ, dont use reboot

21:10	Rajko	it breaks everything

21:10	gauner1986	lol

21:10	DomZ	really ??? lol

21:10	Rajko	yes

21:10	Rajko	i cant boot again if i reboot

21:10	DomZ	so it's that

21:10	Rajko	on my frf81 build

21:10	RaiderX303	can i test nand? i got a hd2 spare

21:10	Rajko	shut down

21:11	gauner1986	rajko: corruption?

21:11	Rajko	and then power back on its fine

21:11	Rajko	no, just something the reboot script in frf81 does or something

21:11	DomZ	ok thanks Rajko

21:11	gauner1986	rajko: if i shut down i can't power on anymore

21:11	DomZ	lol

21:11	gauner1986	have to take battery out

finaly a sense build for nand and theres a good reason why nand has not been released due to the problems you have when you try to reboot the phone.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Pierce Zhang:
I have a concern that how can reflash back to WM6.5 when some problems find? Cotulla said on twitter that the only thing to do is to flash with any WM offical rom, but the offical rom can be only flashed when ActiveSync is connected.

Sent From my HD2 Android.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rr5678:
Wrong. Bootloader mode.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kenyloveg:
Does Bootloader mode don't need any USB driver to communicate with PC?

I think there is other way like flashing from SD card would do it. Otherwise, Officical RUU from HTC won't recognize device like "HTC xxx Android USB Sync"...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] :
nope, i use the bootloader to bypass the battery check to flash roms all the time and i havent had any problems
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Crusoe86:
And why you dont' create a "Bull**** and other stuff that not fits in other important topics like NAND which would only be bloat up the threads" thread?

Ok... You moderators must hide yourself behind a mask of reason (But we all know you're not less crazier then the rest of us :p) so you can also call the new thread "offtopic chat" or something like this :D

Yeah... Something like this would be great...

I know that you've opened a new thread.

But you really think that someone will read 10 pages or more (ok, there're not yet then pages) to find out that there is a new "Bull**** and other stuff that not fits in other important topics like NAND which would only be bloat up the threads" thread? I don't think so...

The most effective way for a human to learn is pain. :p

So you'll get the best results if you close this thread for a week or two and refer to the new "Bull**** and other stuff that not fits in other important topics like NAND which would only be bloat up the threads" thread :D

So even the last one will recognise it :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Samsunguy:
you sure do like the word bull**** alot lol. :):):D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ricky886:
Have any update:confused::p:D:eek::o:cool:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jase33:
So I have read through the entire thread but I did not see when this was being released.........

Sorry.....I couldn't help myself. :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] otaku888:
Do you honestly think that something people are doing in their spare time as an experiment, which might not even work, has a release date?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mskip:
I think he was just joking mate :)

Mark.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] fig_jam_uk:
+1.

People need to see when folks are taking the pi55 :p
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] otaku888:
:D Oops. Silly me.

I can't believe I've only just joined and I'm already starting to get annoyed with people asking stupid questions without taking the trouble to research. Must try to be more patient.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Don001:
March 2008 is just joining? :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mskip:
I was gonna ask that lol maybe hes a time traveller :eek:

Mark.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Screemi:
can i book a ride on your timemachine?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Samsunguy:
Lol this tread is getting off topic. :) :) :) :D

Edit: I messed up the Smily face lol
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] otaku888:
I think I joined to look at an attachment two years ago, but only posted for the first time last Thursday when I got my slightly used HD2. I upgraded from a Samsung Galaxy Spica. Kind of sad to leave the Samdroid.net forums, really nice bunch of devs, themers and users.

But the sadness is offset by the raw power of my HD2! Oh yeah. :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Don001:
Why do I have an image of Christopher Lloyd from back to the future using the HD2 lol
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] fig_jam_uk:
Great Scott....
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] F!r3f0x:
to come back to the topic again

I wish that cotulla update his twitter status more than 1 time per week or 1 time in 2 weeks :)

i hate it to read everyday the same status :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Mik0:
From what I've seen, they're still working on the connection (ppp or rmnet), battery, and the dft flasher.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] KapaGT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV0lLux7tTw&feature=player_embedded#!

Comments on this?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] the_scotsman:
Thats a fairly old video...it was already posted by the maker of the video a few pages back...he's working on the project in some way with the devs...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] donalgodon:
That's what I'm hoping, because (for me, at least) until those connection and battery issues (which we all have) are reliably fixed, Android is just a toy on the HD2.

I'd probably never look back when data becomes reliable, but as of now, I can't use it daily, because I depend on my data connection in my workday.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Samsunguy:
16:08	LeTama	hello guys

16:08	LeTama	Cass: you did something specific to avoid corruption ?

16:08	Cass	hiya

16:08	Cass	yes .. created a proper /cache partition

16:09	Cass	now nand recovers any corruption on boot

16:09	Cass	cant make it break now

16:09	Cass	tried everything

16:09	LeTama	so hard-reboots are fine with a cache partition ? Nice

its almost there i guess it will release 12/11/10.

what do you think will be released first ios 4.2 or nand for hd2?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mskip:
Ok people this is the last time I will ask so PLEASE stop having random discussions in this thread and leave it PURELY for updates from irc or for announcements from the devs working on NAND.

The Android Lounge is there for off topic disscussions. You can talk about anything in there as long as its related to your HD2 so if you have anything to post that isnt related directly to the above items then please post there or I will have to close this thread and open a new one JUST for NAND updates and nothing else. Off topic talk in here just makes it soo much harder for everyone else to catch up on the latest updates.

Thank you.

Mark.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] orangekid:
Maybe if you get a few minutes your could multi-select all the OT posts and move them over to the Lounge thread?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] :
?

what does this mean: "+1 to Android NAND release: Power Collapse is working! (It's ultra low power mode when device is in _IDLE_)" ?

Does it have something to do with battery?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mskip:
I have cleaned up the last few days worth of posts (from when the Android Lounge was created), moving some over to the Android Lounge and deleting a few.

Just for future reference if anyone posts here asking if there are any updates or release dates then the posts will be deleted as information is posted as soon as anyone knows anything so theres no need to ask.

I will keep a close eye on this thread for the next few days and if there is still a significant number of off topic posts then thread will have to be closed and replaced with a 'NAND Updates ONLY' thread. I really dont want to as alot of people already subscribe to this thread but its getting out of hand.

Please ONLY post here if you have information or updates about NAND. Thank you.

Mark.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] derdepp:
Would be great as it is really difficult to follow updates...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] adamvanner:
no probs, but dont be surprised if more people post. After all this thread is titled [DISCUSSION], it is open, and people are unlikely to look back to see if a mod has posted some time ago saying NAND updates only.

Maybe retitle this or open a DEV thread for NAND?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] sp33dy_gtx:
Tired to check xda everyday for nand status and nothing. You little geniuss can create a new thread just with whats made
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] radiance26:
Same things for me, it's like the dev stopping. What's happened ? Cotulla is not any more on the chan.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mattfmartin:
I agree I think this thread should be closed and just have one were actual devs just post updates. Speculating on when this thing will get finished is just ridiculous and a waste of time.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jetsetwilly:
+1.

Given up looking.

(almost)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] CrowJA:
20:34	camro	acl: there can'T be anything wrong ..

20:36	camro	acl: the last changes are only cosmetics - nothing special, and compile is working on my side ..

20:36	camro	acl: it is tonight (here) :)

22:30	Hunterkll	Okay, USBMassStorage is working in MAGLDR - it means users can access SD card without OS boot! Pretty nice feature :-)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mattfmartin:
These guys are devs for the Touch Pro 2

This is what I'm talking about. People posting stuff that has nothing to do with the HD2.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] sp33dy_gtx:
True, please somebody enlight us!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] CrowJA:
Lol, my apologies. Just a lurker who's new to it all.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] asadali:
No update for soo long... devs we want nand nw..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mvaughan06:
somebody close this thread....
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] lonelykatana:
Why? what reason is there to close it?

Others will just pop up asking the same things over, and over...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] makavelitha:
so we can leave this as garbage thread, sad... :(
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] krosettli:
why can't we just copy the bootloader/mbr of the desire hd? Is the hardware so different?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tjmm:
any news about android on nand??
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ancola66:
I also think so, this topic has preface but seemingly there isn't log-off.:(. And so it should not continue.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mskip:
I guess my warnings were'nt noticed so I have opened a new thread to post updates or direct information on NAND development for HD2. Please read the first post and DO NOT leave any messages in there so that it is kept clean apart from the above information and is easy for everyone to follow.

If you want to leave a message saying great idea Mark glad you did this at last then by all means do so but dont be offended if its deleted after I read it :D

This thread has got totally out of control so its being closed.

POST INFORMATION AND UPDATES ON NAND DEVELOPMENT THREAD

If you want to discuss NAND or just have a moan then please use the Android Lounge.

Mark.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dharvey4651:
Just a thought but if the other thread is not a discussion thread then I really think we should keep this thread open else users will spam that other thread.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Xonq:
so far, android builds for wm still have some features that doesn't work, i think it would be the best just have a fully functional build first, then go nand.

I have a heavy battery drain also with my shubcraft 1.5 with newest zimage (like only 8 hours max in standby, phone stil get hot while running apps). think I'm gonna have to try the new mattc...

btw guys, allmost all of you doesn't seems to have problems with android on your phones, so I'll ask here even its a lil off topic:

usb-tethering. never worked in any tested build on my HD2. does it work on your phones? is it a WM-Rom related issue? I'm using energy-gtx-rom which is a little "old", its from end of july or something.

but yeah, since I discovered android WM just looks like a big joke.... an even bigger joke when without htc sense + the mod-community.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Hauk00:
Is it possible? Yes. Probable? Only for some, people with the 1gb tmous version will have enough space for both and have a bit left over for internal storage space, the eu version has only 512mb though and getting both on there would require things getting cut down and leave users with little to no internal storage. On top of that for any version it would require fancy partitioning and a more complex bootloader.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pack21:
NAND updates on IRC; 18PM

" - we made a phonecall on nand"

" - but only one"

" - audio both ways?"

" - yes"

Oh boy, they so near!

:D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] M..N:
This is for touchpro 2 and not hd2
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mackman3:
DAMMIT:confused:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] fuzzysig:
lol. so close

but what is preventing us from making a hybrid system on nand so that windows boots first and then android boots after just like it does with sd card?

i mean since we dont use windows for phone features why not strip it of all the apps that are not needed and use the space for android.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] z33dev33l:
why not let the system boot from internal storage (yes this would only work on tmous) then run all apps from sd and im pretty sure you can launch programs from the splash screen (though im not sure I havent done any roms on winmo)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] darkriderz:
If they can do it on the Touch Pro 2 then I think we shall see it on HD2 very soon... I hope they can do it....
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] asadali:
Devs should give us some information what's going on... anyone with some updates?? September has started where is coutella.... give us some information sir
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] M..N:
When he said a update was coming in september, he did not mean at the beginning, it could be the end of the month when the update may be released.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dulexetina:
i thin we should all just wait for the man to do his magic and say thanks to him when he finishes nand porting...

he already done so much... no point to tease him with this -when,why not done,how much more... what do u think?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pack21:
@M..N, Cottula is a God for us, and if he said September, we must wait with respect and give thanks to Lord Cottula, for having given us this great port.

He has all the capabilities to work for a large software company .... and I fear that one day walk away from this community.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] razorpixel:
Nand..... When can get it.

..now should be ready to flash already...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] low-dogg:
Stupid ass
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rwt4jc:
What about improved battery life? That's a big issue for me.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Ducter:
You guys are way over doing it. That I can recall all that was said was a big update in September, dont recall him saying it was going to be a NAND version.

Expect nothing and your satisfied with anything. Expect the world and your never satisfied.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] shree.cse:
Great work by the Android HD2 Lord Cotulla, I never expect my windows HD2 as a EVO 4G, But now its almost there.

But for the complete one, no need of Nand version first, the only required is a stable Android version, may be on storage card.

Eager, on waiting for the next version.

Cotulla! Tussi Great Ho!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] M..N:
lol i dont think he will understand punjabi
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] fstluxe:
I carry 3 battery's al the time ! It's just 1200MAH bro,...:)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] razorpixel:
I purposely want to see which stupid ass will react, here u r ...called urself stupid ass ...wakaka
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] shree.cse:
But I think, He can understand my sense
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] cookzitall:
**************

this thread is completely useless and should be closed......
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] |ErosizeD|:
i mean, no nand version for HD2... or will take a looooooooooooooooooong time, 6 o 7 monts
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Klael:
I agree...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] fuzzysig:
it seems useless because the question is still not answered.

where are the developers on this one?

theres just bunch of noobs arguing about things they have no idea about...

why cant we cut the crap out of the winmo and leave only enough to boot winmo and the necessary hardware and MOVE the android image over to flash memory instead of sd card. use the nand just like we use sd card
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hegemytouch:
NAND has to be here soon...i mean as of right now every single thing works just somethings are a little buggy...i think by end of this month ro sometime next month will be NAND...but people please be patient be happy with what you have now because its still amazing...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] EclipseX:
these people are stupid or what? They do not know wait for realease?? may be given by someone very happy to be working on it! If I were the developer of Nand, after reading this thread, I never posted the Nand for free ... would be to pay!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] madindehead:
I have to laugh at all the people saying that the 512MB ROM version of the HD2 wouldn't be able to run Android from NAND.

Go look at the HTC website. Look at the device specs:

HTC Desire - ROM: 512 MB

HTC Legend - ROM: 512MB

Nexus One - ROM: 512MB

HTC Wildfire - ROM: 512MB

So...if those phones can run official Android on 512MB of ROM...you would think the HD2 can do it too.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] appoggio:
I'm personally very confident about a newcoming flashable version of Android on HD2.

I know the guys are working hard on that and I really apreciate their work.

Keep it up guys!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] indiocochino:
I really agree!

I think cotulla can...we have only to wait and be patient.

Android in sd works very very good till the arrival...jejeje!

Thanks to all the people who makes this stuff posible!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pablo11:
"All good things come to those who wait"

:p
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] byl233:
I can WAIT! :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] chrisjasper:
Nice to see some patient people instead of those who seem to think its their god given right to a nand flash version of android NOW.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zat0x:
My geuss... oktober it will be released.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Apache0c:
Yep, they're definitely going to make it happen. It's just a matter of time. They've been doing tons of work on it. I use Android as my daily OS, it's still glitchy, lags sometimes, etc. But I know that it's an ongoing process and we're lucky to get to test it as they make developments on the path to a full working replacement for WM.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pack21:
Cottula have already the NAND working in his HD2, the code name of bootloader is MAGLDR.

You will able to have two Android in HD2, one booting on root device and other in SD.

the tree is the EVO kernel.

Só basical we will have a HD2 SUPERSONIC :)

i heart too, There is some project to WM7 porting on HD2.

So lets wait to Cottula choice a beautifull day to the big party.

A big Hurray to Cottula Dark forces.

:)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] marioantonion:
Signed.

Using Android on daily bases.

Lags, glitches, freezes and still....

Awesome, i am ever so satisfied.

Looking forward, for every small steps that makes it more stable and reliable.. well whatever, its awsome.

We all appreciate the work, and a NAND will be ever so 1337 ;o
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] erikvario:
where did you found that.

irc logs only telling about rhodium NAND.

btw my hd2 was always supersonic, with winmo and now with android:D

edit: talking about it now
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tobiascrystal:
yay

Cottula and his buddies deserve some real credit! If it weren't for all of their hard work our awsome phone would just be allright. His name is all over this place from HSPL to Android. I wish I had just half of his knowledge so I could get in on all the fun!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pack21:
No sir, Cotulla have already boot EVO kernel in HD2 by NAND, and the name code of the bootloader is MAGLDR.

He just have some TS issues.

But, God Cotulla, will fix that, very soon.

:D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Hatefly:
Couldn't have said it better myself :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dashrink:
Damn. That guy never sleeps. He is probably the reason why the hd2 is outselling the iphoney 4! Yup you heard right. The hd2 is ouyselling the iphone 4 in the US (and I had mine since november last year). Now I prolly never get rid of it :-P
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] norpan111:
Everyone i knew was going to buy new iphone 4, but after seeing my hd2 with android, well from now on im going to be a busy man helping them install everything!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] juanzho11:
I been busy myself already... its very n ice to help other android enthusiast. Also props to cotulla he has done many things for all of us.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jamieeeee:
lets not all just talk about how greatfull we are but also give him something. it his his time he donates for us so i think we need to buy him a beer or 2. i donated $10 to him :)