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[EVO 4G General] captivate:
The thread for this rom can be found here: s3vo (aka Deck's Rom)

I tried it out but the overall appeal of sense on this rom just isn't as nice as C6..
[EVO 4G General] efuse:
No, It's not.

Again. Cyanogen codes. Others steal.
[EVO 4G General] efuse:
Say what you want about sense, but the dialer is absolute trash. That is universally accepted.
[EVO 4G General] JPRPJBJPJ:
Jesus you're really nitpicking about the dialer?

It works. Wtf is so bad about the dialer if it works.
[EVO 4G General] skantman69:
I see we are starting to split C*#T hairs now. It's real simple, if you have something to say constructive then let's chat, if not go blow some smoke up someone else's ass.

Sent on my cursed EVO
[EVO 4G General] jerryparid:
Yes to better music player and better camera app. Everything else is false. Froyo AOSP Camera is just plain ugly.
[EVO 4G General] dglowe343:
Its not stealing if credit is given for work used. If the only developers on this site(or similar ones) were ones that built from the ground up, we wouldnt have nearly as many roms to choose from. Considering, most of the roms for our phones are possible because of Toast's work on the bootloader. CM6 may not have been possible for us without Toast. This is a community who's purpose is to bring developers together to benefit people like us that still have a lot to learn. It's not about who's the most skilled developer. They all work hard so we dont have to settle for a "Stock" phone if we want more. Just my two sense.....I mean cents.
[EVO 4G General] efuse:
No one is calling Toast a thief.

These guys who use sense to make their own custom rom ARE stealing, EOT. Sense is proprietary. Sense is property of HTC. To modify it, hack it into a froyo rom (using CM code to boot) is theft, plain and simple.

They are thieves, not developers.
[EVO 4G General] nugzo:
What an uptight one you are. You sound completely ridiculous! Dont you think that if HTC had a problem with devs putting sense on a froyo rom, they would have put a stop to it? Thats exactly what they are working on themselves atm. The Evo came with android and sense, this is still android and sense. Whats the big deal? He obviously has some talent, sense is a tricky. Thieves lol, that is real real funny! Some of us like sense, it has pros and cons. Thank you op! efuse, why dont you head over to ava's froyo sense thread and call him a thief, and tell him he's not a developer. please? here is the link http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=720682 While your at it, head over to the nexus forum and tell paulobrien he's a thief and not a dev for his sense work on the nexus. you might better get your handcuffs before you head over there tho, Nexus didnt even come with sense.
[EVO 4G General] trentlythp:
Wow.... you are a character sir... I wish you luck in all your future trolling endeavours

Sent via the Sprint HTC EVO
[EVO 4G General] Aridon:
Some of you are real pieces of work.

Why do you have to come into a thread on a rom with sense and fag it up because you like asop?

Personally I find sense to be a huge bloated pig and can't stand it but that doesn't mean that others HAVE to share my view point. There is no reason to come here and piss in people's cheerios.

So if you don't have anything positive to add, GTFO of the thread.

If you dislike the way someone uses open source components or tries to take a closed source system and port it then again, GTFO. There are plenty of people that are interested in sense and whatever perceived benefits they see in it. If you don't then great, no reason to drive by douche bag and **** up other threads you have no interest in.

Before you start calling people hacks try actually doing something positive for the development community. Put up or STFU.

/rant off
[EVO 4G General] JPRPJBJPJ:
Ignore the trolls.

Man I love the sense keyboard and music player
[EVO 4G General] skantman69:
Well said.

Now on to more productive things. Anyone using this rom have you seen any repairs to some of the problems it has??? The biggest thing for me is the wifi. It only connects to open networks.

Sent on my cursed EVO
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] c00ller:
Firstly for those thinking, "just get DarchDroid! It's already AOSP," I would first like to explore this option. I like Sense UI, just hate the lag associated with certain Sense apps and would at least like to try the AOSP versions before completely switching to a new ROM.

I did some searching, but couldn't find any sure apk's that will work on a CDMA Hero. The closest I found was some working for the EVO 4G (here), but I don't want to risk it not working on the Hero.

Is it possible for someone to pull some apk's from DarchDroid ROM and have them work on Sense-based ROMs?

Suppose there are working apk's, will they replace or coexist with the HTC apps?

Thanks in advance, and I apologize if this was already done.

Edit: found some apk's!

Edit 2: apparently I suck at searching; there was another thread here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=667715#7 but at least my thread has the DeskClock.apk :p
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] MapleBacon:
I feel your pain, or at least I did. I liked sense but hated all the lag such as the lag when scrolling threw contacts and SMS. All those little small areas where it would lag drove me crazy. I tried installing the apks from darchdroid but it didn't work so I searched it up. Got the same results as you. I had no choice but to go with darchdroid but I am more than satisfied now. Throw launcherpro on it and you wont regret it. AOSP is like a simplified less flashy version and I love it. I hope some one has a real answer for you though because I'm curious myself. Good luck.

Oh. If you do end up trying darchdroid, try out gomorrah's blackmod theme for it. It's sick.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] c00ller:
Well, I managed to find the AOSP messaging app when I wasn't even looking for it! Go figure. It was in a thread talking about keyboard lag. Some claim that for texting, using AOSP messaging app has much less keyboard lag than the HTC messaging app. For those curious, it's here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6309233&postcount=6

Oh and it looks like it replaces the HTC messaging app; they cannot coexist.

Edit: It also occurred to me that flipz included the AOSP alarm as part of his AOSP lock screen fix!
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] MapleBacon:
Much less lag. The messaging app is the only one that worked when I tried replacing them though. The phone and contacts apps were giving problems. I didn't know what to do so I just went with darchdroid. If you like sense, maybe there is a way to add it to an AOSP ROM. Maybe you can just try installing the HTC Sense launcher apk on darch's ROM.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] rkrishnan2012:
Hydros's Programming tutorial for a 13 year old​

Well, this is my first time posting a tutorial which I have actually tried in making. I kinda felt bad for the people who are missing out on programming because they htink it is hard. Well, I finally devised the ultimate tutorial which a 13 year old should easily be able to understand if he puts his/her mind into it. I posted pics for EVERY STEP along he way so you can walk through it. Simply open the zip and there are three directories

IMAGES - has all the images to the tutorial (not all tutes have images...don't be babies)

TUTE - a tute in .doc format

SOURCE - whatever program we made that day, I posted a source code area to post up source for it.

-Enjoy and I hope people learn a few things from it (even though it is quite basic)

NUMBER OF TUTES MADE SO FAR: 4​

C# TUTORIALS:

Tutorial 1: We install visual studio 2010 express edition c# and we make a sooped up version of the boring helloworld app. Maybe even a "pull my finger" app can be developed with the limited knoledge learned from this tute.

Tutorial 2: We make a continuation of helloworld with variables so the user types in a name and the program will say "hello..." + name

Tutorial 3: We make a simple calculator using functions for adding, subtracting, multiplying, and dividing (kinda complicated but still very easy). - With pictures in the PDF

Tutorial 4: We make a simple program which uses a loop to display "hello" the number of times the user tells it to.

-If you find problems with ANYTHING, please feel free to post in the comments section below and I will do my best to reply within a day to all questions.

If you like my work: please feel free to spread it with my credit;) + donation link is on my sig (cough...cough):)

​
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ElCondor:
I am really looking forward to reading the tutorial! Sounds good!:)

EC
[Windows Mobile Software Development] robbi13:
Read through the whole tutorial now.

I got amazed.

It looks much more easier now thanks to you :)

But i do have a question.

When you click the button you called Click me!

How to make the text appear on another place than the button?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Cyclonezephyrxz7:
rkrishnan2012: I commend your efforts so much! When I came to this website, originally, I had such a hard time getting into developing. I think it is truly a great thing you are doing by taking your time to create these tutorials and upload them to the public! I applaud you :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] krook6023:
I wish I was 13 so I could understand this...but I am 30 and...:)

I am looking forward to reading through this tonight...many thanks to the OP.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] newdecember:
i agree with you there krook,

i forsee a lot of sitting around the laptop for the next few weeks,

god my fiancee's gonna be angry lol

:D

great job man

and thanks :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] rkrishnan2012:
hey...no problem guys. I really like to have people understand the deep meaning in c# programming. Anyway, this was simple code and in the next tutorial, I will be going over a little more tougher thing (still very very easily put for a 13 year old....)

Tutorial 2:

some of the other common controls (like radio buttons and checkboxes) & some "if" statements
[Windows Mobile Software Development] rkrishnan2012:
good question...for changing the property of something, you write the name of the item...followed by a dot...and intellisense will bring up a list of properties you can change. In the next tute, we will go over labels...so that will include changing properties (you are in the right track, we will do more of this in the next tute).

Also, you may post code here if you want to...just zip it up as a visual studio solution
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Livven:
Hmm, I have read some books to learn coding, specifically C#, and the basics are really easy - the difficult things are the APIs you need to learn to actually make your app do something useful. I just never got beyond that, but maybe I'll give it another try sometime. If you have some tips they'd be appreciated :).
[Windows Mobile Software Development] iambenz:
i love this post as hell -v-
[Windows Mobile Software Development] surgency:
I would definitely start with console applications and after a while dive into winforms/wpf.

But to each his own. This doesn't have much to do with windows mobile programming does it?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mozomar:
Thank you for sharing your programming skills with us, I am looking forward to read through your tutorial...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] lauchon:
Thanks a lot!!!!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] BenF1:
Its late so I'll read through tomorrow. This seems like the perfect gateway into programming! I'm 16 so I should be fine :P

Many thanks.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] 96edwy:
currently studying programming at college so this should go nicely with what i already know, thanks dude
[Windows Mobile Software Development] rkrishnan2012:
ok I uploaded the tutorial #2...with variables and if statements.

here's the media fire link:

http://www.mediafire.com/?bsok6aj9966q4vi

it's got docx and pdf files with source.

As always, feel free to donate ;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] oshizzle1991:
so lemme get this straight, this is for devin' in JUST c#? we cant run these apps on our phones? cause on the express site i was tempted to download the express version for windows phone too... lol
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Staxxthedan:
Thanks mate looking forward to giving it a little shot...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] bryanwayb:
Sound ironic to me xD

lol a 13 year old? i saw that and had to comment. I'm actually 16 years old and have been programming in C and C++ (even C++ is a little more than C#) since i was 11. yes, its simple logic, kudos to the tutorial. good to look at.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] rkrishnan2012:
ok lemme get this straight....

I made it as 13 because then i was about 12ish, i started to write jibberish programs which barely compiled and they were at best something like this, so i ignored that age and I said '13' because at that time, i had a solid understanding of C# and vb.net. Both of which were very easy for me. Now, 15, I know waaay more programming (C#,Vb.net, C++,C,JAVA,and the wpf version of c# and vb.net).

I mainly use the c# and vb.net most today but I have programming competitions and I need to know c++ and JAVA so i gradually developed that as well.....

And for all you 3rd grade babies out there who program...good for you and I hope you spread the knoledge learned some day to someone else ;)

-Turns out, you will get money for this.....
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Morto_jeffrey:
Thanks for the tuts i am waiting for the next one :P

Can you give me a link where there are more tutorials so i can learn more of C#.

I know that there is google :) but maybe you know a good site!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] chronokinetic:
hey, i think it's great that you're doing this because I'm totally new and am trying to learn how to develop programs. Thanks and really appreciate your effort in making a tutorials like this! : ) any other simple "for dummies" tutorials, great sites with supplemental things that anyone can refer me to? would want to learn as much and as fast as possible : )
[Windows Mobile Software Development] bryanwayb:
oh! no i wasn't laughing at the age thing. i was laughing because I'm seeing more and more younger programmers out there and i always viewed programming as a 25 - 45 year old thing. Id love to see young kids learning to program because its not only the future, it pays (like you said) really well. i was just throwing some of my young programming experience in a comment. good work on the tutorials. keep it up. :)

p.s. i was the same at 12. i could barely use Java or C. C++ was easier than those two for some reason.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] rkrishnan2012:
weird....anyway, im kinda reinstalling the os on my other two main computers so I will be back to posting tutorials probably tommorow when I get a new lappy...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] rkrishnan2012:
ok i made tutorial 3 and it's a bit long and extensive but still easy language....

As always, ask questions ans post files in this thread
[Windows Mobile Software Development] rkrishnan2012:
hey people. If you download a tutorial, make sure you respond on how it was...I see 59 downloads on tute 3 and no comments on it.

If you want me to keep posting tutorials, make sure you please post how it turned out (can be a couple of words or a whole page...)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] rkrishnan2012:
ok i am gonna post up tute 4 which is on loops but im gonna need some comments on how tute 3 was (or how to improve it) and then I will psot tute 4....i really don't want this thread to be inactive and me being the only one posting :(
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Stine:
Downloading tutorial 1 now, will go threw them! looks neat! thanks!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ReappearingBadboY:
This is really usefull Stuff!!:):)

Continue your Work.!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mtiberio:
I'm 56, and I started computer programming in 1969 (really, I have been doing it for over 40 years). this tutorial helped me wade through the bloatware knows as m/s studio. thank you...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] rkrishnan2012:
thanks for posting. Ill post up tute 4 today on loops.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] rkrishnan2012:
ok im making an app called sms-scriptor and for all you hyper people who want to go into mobile programming, please support my app and I will release a documentation on how I programmed it. It will be extremely through like my tutorials and will have everything needed to mock a tutorial (except a little more advanced).

Tute 4 is still expceted to come out today...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] gathrottle:
Like your tutorials a lot. Been programming off and on for years but never tried for the mobile devices. Keep up the good work!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mtiberio:
OK, so how do I cross compile this for my winmo phone?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] rkrishnan2012:
it's not that easy. you can't simply cross compile for .net cf. You need to get a windows mobile 6.1 SDK which includes a windows mobile project (you have to make it from scratch). And then you compile it from there and it will generate an exe which can be loaded on to a winmo device.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mtiberio:
Downloading 211 MB Mobile 6 msi now. will report.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mtiberio:
The windows mobile 6.1 SDK wants

Visual Studio 2005 SP1 or later and

.NET Compact Framework 2.0 SP1

I'm currently downloading both for free (VS is 432 MB, slow)... we'll see...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] rkrishnan2012:
goodlulck with that. We'll see what happens from there.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mtiberio:
no go... looks like I have to have Visual Studio 2005 for the patch to take (DOH, I thought AT 400MB I was getting that). Cheapest english version I have found is $64...

oh well... I thought microsoft wanted folks to develop apps for their platform...

unfortunately I found a link on the MS web site that said: "Visual Studio 2005 Express Editions", but it took me to the 2010 versions. :(
[Windows Mobile Software Development] rkrishnan2012:
here:

http://www.egydown.com/1925-visual-basic-2008-express-edition.html

-enjoy
[Windows Mobile Software Development] orb3000:
Thanks for your tuts!

Will write about them tomorrow
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mtiberio:
Thanks, I found the 2005 express on a german web site (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=112201). But after having the windows mobile 6.1 SDK fail to load over that, I drilled down into the prerequisites, and found it doesn't load over express editions... alas..
[Windows Mobile Software Development] tnasan:
It's very nice tutorial. I'm very appreciated with it !!!

p.s. Are you have much free-time for making this guide? Do you have any special class to attend, or are you in the summer?

p.s. I'm very like your tutorial and it's also easy to understand what are you going to tell the reader. Just keep your quality of work, you will be successes in the future. Good Luck !

May the success be with you (it's sound like Star War)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] jale:
Great work! Will go through them all!

I have Visual Studio 2010 Ultimate, is it possible to use this? (I have the other versions also, but I have already installed Ultimate on my computer).
[Windows Mobile Software Development] blackcmos:
this is a good tutorial i read them all,

C# is abit look a like pascal :)

thnks for showing me in the right direction
[Windows Mobile Software Development] milk242:
I've never dabbed in C# mostly because I'm on a Mac and do Objective-C, Java, C++, C in Xcode, but your tutorial has given me some insight into Windows development, specifically some of properties of Visual Studio. So far, I'm fairly impressed with Visual Studio. Anyways, good job on the tutorials and keep up the good work.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] rkrishnan2012:
@tnasan:

naah, im in vacation right now out of shool so ive got all the time in the world.

@jale:

visual studio 2010 ultimate is perfect for this kind of work (however it is not necessary). So it will work nicely with my tutes.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] jale:
Okay, I have done all three of them now.

And the tutorials are good, but I want to see more WM specific programming... How to test on my phone, how to compile and such difficulties...

Have been doing some other projects in school in VS. The attached is a program that gathers data from a bathroom-scale (via a microcontroller) over a serialline, and present the datas on the screen.

It also calculates you BMI if you input your height.

Vs 2008 - Norwegian comments
[Windows Mobile Software Development] rkrishnan2012:
naah. i don't do this stuff for school. I just find free time and I fool around with visual c#...thats all.

-Im glad you like my tutes. I will be moving this thread hoever to a new site (Hydrosmobile.com) very soon and It will be waay better there. The tutorials will be posted there and here but comments will have to be posted there.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mkid:
WM 6 SDK doesn't load over express editions (free version), so you have to buy a VS version.

That means you cannot develop WM programs with VS express version (free version).

too bad.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] jale:
Yeah, that sound bad :P

But maybe someone will write a easy guide / tutorial anyway. Lots (i think) of people have paid versions of VS.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] get_ur_tilt_on:
just downloaded,....cant wait to get home and read
[Windows Mobile Software Development] rkrishnan2012:
ok so i got my new computer and im planning on releasing a couple of new tutes probably tonight. Tutorial 4 will be on loops. We will start off making a program for doing the "bottles of milk on the wall" song:

one bottle of milk on the wall

one bottle of milk on the wall

take it done pass it around

Anyway, that's super duper simple so I will probably add another tutorial on something else.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] uqo11:
The tutorials are great!

Unfortunately i´m on vacation (Trying to get miljonair in Las Vegas).

I definatly will try it when i'm back!

I leave a comment after 11 august when i tried the tutorials!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ArcticWolf91:
Hey first of all I wanna say thanks to the OP for making this tutorial. The only thing is that I can't see the pictures in the tutorials. I'm opening them using Microsoft Word, could that be it?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] rkrishnan2012:
oh sorry. I actually just said (*picture 1*) and you need to go to the images folder and refer to the picture labeled picture1. I was kinda lazy. If you want to help improve the tutorial, be my guest and just reupload it as a post in this thread and I'd happily post it up in the first post as an updated version by you (and me)...:)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ArcticWolf91:
Oh I see! Haha sorry I didn't have too much time to view it and I had to leave. No its ok the way you made it, I just didn't realize they were separate. Thanks again for making this! :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] calliope:
thank you for these tutorials :)

Will test them this WE.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] rkrishnan2012:
ok so right now, i only have ubuntu running on my computer and it's not setup quite yet for me to write tutorials, but possibly tonight or tommorow, ill have windows running again and I will be able to make a nice butt-kicking tutorial in my website so be on the lookout for that.....;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] habil61:
i loved this post.. Really thank u!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] rkrishnan2012:
im sorta'ish busy right now but if anyone knows programming in c#, please help me make a tutorial on loops. I will post it up in first post and give full credis to them...Maybe even a donation link.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] rkrishnan2012:
hey people,

ive almost finished the fourth tutorial and I will finish it up and post it up sometime tonight probably.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] DevilDogVIKING:
any word on that fourth tut?