yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dubie76:
LMFAO. I read these posts this morning and almost pissed myself laughing. You guys are too much.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] 12aon:
Was I unclear in my last message? These are jokes that that don't belong in a public forum.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dubie76:
crystal boss.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] StephanV:
Twitter:

This sounds like awesome!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Stoferr:
Soo nice :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dontw:
I almost thought that said it was getting released lol.....that does sound awesome tho....
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] andrewf403:
That's why I wait for NAND. Proper drivers - proper power consumption.

Though, on new builds of Mdeejay froyo hd, and NexusHD2 I got fair battery life. WM is still better in this department, but not that much.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rajkosto:
true 5mA in standby thanks to power collapse on nand now :D

(12-19mA if you have wifi on)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] StephanV:
i suppose you mean wifi on, but not connected to a network?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bigdazza18:
given this latest break-through, how much closer do you think we are to a public release?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] secano:
Cotulla is a genius!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] itsakram:
What was it prior to the power collapse becoming functional?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Therk:
Great news once again :D luving these guys :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Jammie_1989:
Still a while there are other things that need sorting such as call quality and a few other things at the rate the secs are going wouldn't be surprised if we saw it before the end of October but I'm no dev so don't take this guess as gospel
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zat0x:
well im not gonna say ... ALMOST again... but were close now. ?once again?.

Anyway .. great progress and big ups for the developers! Thanks
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Beretta93:
-100/-300 mah

Remaining issue : audio call quality, battery drainage still not perfect

And flashing utility which is still not complete

Cotulla	1)fix big power consumptions

21:22	Cotulla	2)fix audio quality

21:22	gauner1986	what's wrong with audio?

21:22	Markinus	gauner1986: I think if we have a working normal desire build it would be great, HD can come later

21:22	Rajko	gauner1986, keeps breaking up during call

21:22	Cotulla	3)fix screen wake up

21:23	Cotulla	4)fix inital display init
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Hauk00:
That IS what NAND means, NAND is what we refer to as "ROM", the os flashed onto the NAND/ROM and the rest is used as internal storage, Android in its current state cannot be booted from internal storage and if he had a build working as such that would really be something.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] whynot66:
I have read a couple of tweets and forums saying its being worked on someone even said September but its unlikely well have a full NAND rom that's its totally stable but who knows with the speed its moved already
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] DaDoctor:
I guess u didnt understand me or my foreign english is kickin in lol

What I am guessing he did is make a copy of the Android folder and paste it in main storage then ran haret from the android folder that is on main storage which still calls the folder on the SD card...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] sleepwalkers:
There's a difference between copying the Android folder to internal storage and running it from there and booting directly into Android on NAND.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Hauk00:
There is but at that point its fairly small, once android can be booted off internal storage all thats remaining is a custom bootloader and method of flashing a rom.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pack21:
Oh boy, it's already missing a day for Setember NAND release, it was a long and hard path to the Devs.

I cant wait to put the NAND Droid.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] 1999TL:
Nand booting would make the HD2 KING.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] qingcai:
yes yes, yes!!!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] EclipseX:
battery probleme and freeze screen ??? with nand desappears?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nerdtaco:
Incidentally, I get better battery life with Android running on the SD card than I do with WM running in NAND. My screen doesn't freeze, however the touch input stops working occasionally. If it does, I turn the screen off and on and it fixes it 100% of the time for me.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] 3pcssuits:
I can second that i can stream from slacker from 9 to 1 running winmo but i can run slacker from 9 to 4 using android, go figure. My battery last longer running android if you don't believe try it out.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] EclipseX:
hmmm I'm trying matt 31/08 and batery life seems better :P.....
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] luciferyu:
i agree with you ，but it need time.All we need now is too make the android run well under wm system. and i hope this day will come soon
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] luciferyu:
from china ，i am happy to contract with you
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] serikm:
After recently released [31.08.2010][mattc Leo + Froyo w/Sense 1.7][Kernel: mattc 2.6.32.9 #4] and Kernel from 31.08.2010 (unfortunately not included in v.1.7) that have an excellent reviews , it is really time to move to NAND!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Evil_enc:
is someone developing something for that?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zat0x:
Its time for NAND :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] qipengart:
I would like NAND soon but we need to be patient.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] idevmag:
using matt 1.7 ppp, with radio 2.12.50.2_2 no hang / freeze / SoD so far. Battery is really improved

I guess it is time to kick out WM and NAND android on HD2
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] masondoctorjt:
I get about the same battery life with both. Is there a way to put both WM and Android on nand and dual boot? That would be killer since I still need WM for some things.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] steven1234:
"+1 to Android NAND release: Power Collapse is working! (It's ultra low power mode when device is in _IDLE_)"

+1? ??? is this a hint ... possibly +1 MORE DAY TILL NAND RELEASE!!!! YEAHHHHH BUDDDYY!!! 10/13/10 will live in infamy for the day nand is finally released! :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] w3by:
The only possible thing +1 could hint to, is that Cotulla is just one step closer to bringing Android on NAND.

Don't get your hopes up, the +1 most probably has no hidden message behind it.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hidden_hunter:
I agree, people read way too much into messages
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Beretta93:
Man if you expect a release within the next 10 days, you'll be very disappointed.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] joeh2184:
3G connection

Hi,

i am new to this, i installed froyobuild on my hd2..everything seems to work ok but, there is no 3G connection. i have googled it and cant find anything. Is there a way to fix this? Thanks
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] 10507:
You will get better result if posted in Froyo build thread. People there will have more knowledge of the build.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] joeh2184:
Thanks, ill do that.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] the_scotsman:
As said above, it just means they're one step closer to being able to release it...it's not going to happen anytime soon.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] norpan111:
Aw :( no more pages? I've been reading this thread like a book past hour but final chapter not written yet . Oh well goodnight folks :)

Edit: this has no releasedate hint in it. Just so you know
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] idevmag:
"+1 to Android NAND release: Power Collapse is working! (It's ultra low power mode when device is in _IDLE_)"

+1 one step closer for sure...

I love to see fully functional desire rom instead of broken functionality. As per the log, I guess they are also fixing camera flash issue too...

It would be great to have footprint working as well (just my opinion)

Thanks

iDev
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] fig_jam_uk:
I wish people would stop guessing dates, it'll be out when its out.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Don001:
Exactly, +1 obviously meant that we are one step closer but a lot of work needs to be done.

p.s. Prince Harry is really going all out lol
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] fig_jam_uk:
I love that pic, just something about it :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Don001:
Yeah they is just something very right with what they doing, the weird thing is I can imagine Charles actually doing that on his Sunday drives lol
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] steven1234:
"Nand developing is going pretty well, I believe our team will release first NAND based Android ROM soon for LEO :-)"

Straight from the horses mouth... "soon"
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] anap40:
They are getting 5mA on the NAND and ~15mA with Wifi on. I get better than that with our current HARET builds.

I still don't see any advantage NAND has over booting from the SD. And if you say you want WinMo off you phone, if Android is so stable then you should never to reboot and therefore would never even see winmo anyway.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Showtime7:
Soon could be an hour, a day, a week, or a month. I really wish people would leave this alone and stop getting hopes up for nothing. But I guess we're all waiting for it. I know I am. After playing around with an android build today I was just thinking about how great it would be to have decent battery life and boot right into android. But stability is the main thing. If it's not completely stable I don't want to flash it.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Mik0:
Dunno if nand will fix PPP or rmnet...because my current ppp connection drops quite often :\
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Bingoig11:
When you say that, I can't help thinking about that:

:p
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] relic:
still things to fix mentioned by Cotulla after finding a workaround for power drainage:

+ camera & flash
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Samsunguy:
ya same here my ppp sucks but ever since i updated to the 2.14.50 radio the drops had went down but as of now i heard that ppp and rmnet will be added.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] poo1009:
I see a lot of comment about non-NAND prefer in the forum.

I will not say you are right or wrong, but what's you purpose?

The way that a lot of people wait for NAND version disturb you?

Or you want to stop all developers to not interest on NAND?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dLeTe:
Better dual boot?

Would a superb/complete NAND build also mean that the builds that boot from sd will be of the same quality? I really like having both os's. And android works well on my phone now but of course we all know that there are small issues we'd love fixed. Just curious if/when NAND comes out, would devs stop producing builds that run from sd and focus on pure NAND?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zarathustrax:
You should be able to use the kernels on both, so the SD bootable versions should be just as good as nand versions. I hope that one day I can have both wm and android on nand.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Hauk00:
In theory its totally possible if you have the tmous version.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dung8604:
I couldn't agree more. You're not changing anyone's mind, and you're not really offering anything new to the discussion, so why waste time arguing it?

When NAND is released there will be thorough testing and many reviews that will put all questions to rest about advantages or lack thereof.

Let the people who are excited about the incredible work that Cotulla and his team are doing have their moment, and all questions will be answered in due time!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] krat0s123:
yes they are.. but you have to realize that the measurement should be when you're running any programs or when you're actually using your device.. as that's where you should measure the current draw of the device.. of course at sleep mode, they would be just about close or on par with each other, as there's no program running.. but when you start using your HD2 and start accessing everything from the microSD card, that's where you will start to see the difference..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] oniddy:
i cant wait to use nand on my phone ...**** windows sucks anyways i want it out and forever on my htc hd2 ,xda developers brings life back to a phone that windows abandoned ,thats why windows 7 and whatever window on a phone could kiss my ass i will not buy it........LOL sorry guys for the ass part hahaaa but its true ....ohhh by the way im waiting to tip i was actually gonna buy a class 6 sandisk card because i heard its a faster and smooth android that will run, but instead i found out about nand running straight from my htc hd2 (no microsd card included) which will be way better i know! since it will run inside of the phone so it will run like a super xda android phone and im with it! .....im waiting for my super fast nand and ill give ya the money i was gonna pay for my microsd card but hurry i know ya almost finish but i cant waitttttt Lol god bless
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] EclipseX:
spammer

buy a phone with native android dude...don' spamm here
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] krogoth:
If WinMo sucks, why You have bought Leo? Buying HD2 You agreed to use wm6.5.

Lots of people bought it, becouse it was new, shiny and expensive... It's sooo cool to have such a High-End Phone and impress everyone...

Wm Phones are not a typical Nokia, Apple, SE or Samsung products, they just working diferent. Most of HD2 owners will never leave wm6.5, they can play with Haret etc, but will still keep windows as main OS.

You can read Zeno's thougts about Android and wp7 - maybe this will show You those system from another angle.

Zeno Sloim wrote:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Don001:
That's actually a pretty interesting read, they's different reasons why people have picked Android now over Winmo (and mainly why a thread like this exists) I'm sure you have read and heard them all so it's all about what people require, Me, myself, I want a little change, I'm use to having a new phone every year, and this way, its a way of getting a new phone for free!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] MvP77:
Winmo does suck IMO, i had experiances with it on my ppc6700, i920, and tp2. Me personaly, i bought a HD2 super cheap from a friend who also hated winmo, but as you said, wanted the big new shiny toy. And i wouldnt of bought it if i couldnt play around with android on it (had a nexus one as my primary phone at the time and have since got a evo.) At the same time i know there are tons of people that love winmo 6.1-6.5 and it sucks for those people that microsoft has abandoned it.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] juiceppc:
My estimate on when NAND will be released is November 30. So to people who keep checking this forum daily I say, don't. This is probably no where near a stable public release. Give it another month at least. Heck, maybe even early next year.

I wonder if HTC could release a perfect version of Android for the HD2? I mean they made the dang thing.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mskip:
Repeating posts by other mods in this thread please do not 'estimate' release dates unless you are part of the team working on this project and have definite information rather than just a guess..

Posting 'guessed' release dates serves absolutely no purpose and stirs up just as much negative feedback from users as the people who say 'maybe tomorrow, maybe tomorrow'. We dont need all that starting up again as this thread is already half full of useless information.

Regarding HTC creating an Android version for the HD2 I very much doubt it as they have no reason to. They have phones with exactly the same spec as the HD2 running Android and as far as im aware they have never done it for another WinMo phone so why start now.

Mark.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hd945157206:
http://twitter.com/cotullacode

CotullaCode

.+1 to Android NAND release: Power Collapse is working! (It's ultra low power mode when device is in _IDLE_)

1 minute ago via web

cotulla go ahead!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Jammie_1989:
This was yesterday go away
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] faithless1977:
:)

yes but it was yesterday.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mskip:
LOL maybe your PC's clock needs adjusting? :rolleyes:

Mark.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] krat0s123:
actually me, the reason why i bought HD2 was because i thought it would support WM7 in the future, like what HTC and MS said in the past, when they were working on WM7.. but what did MS do to HD2 owners?? they stopped supporting WM6.5 and gave us a BS reasoning by saying that there's too much button on our HD2's, so no WM7 for us?? what kind of a BS is that?? they knew about our phone and even said that the HD2 would be the only phone around that would support WM7.. and now they're saying we have way too much button on our HD2 that's why they won't give us any update?? the keys could easily be remapped, if that's really the problem.. and our HD2 still has the latest hardwares inside.. because up until now they're using the same type of CPU and almost identical hardwares on the HD7 which would come out in nov.. saying that the hardware buttons is the problem why they won't give us any update is a big BS!! luckily devs here started porting android on our HD2's.. now, all i can say is goodbye MS forever! i don't care how good WM7 would get.. those kinds of company won't get my money for jack! and as soon as nand comes out, i'll erase WM6.5 on my phone for good, since the only reason why i have it now is so i could load haret..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] HotShotAzn:
<sigh>

This is not a "why you chose Android" thread or a "which is better: WM or Android" thread.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] TonyCubed:
Microsoft haven't stopped work on WinMo, have they? As far as I'm aware, there are still builds being made and incorporated into new ROMS.

Also to the people who say Microsoft abandoned WinMo, they have done for a very good reason. It's a legacy OS, very dated, and while it's more mature than Android or WP7, it's very dated and Microsoft are only doing what they done to XP to Vista/7, rebuilding it from the ground upwards.

WinMo had it's time, but it's going to really struggle when up against Apple or Google.

Android has an increasing software market, and in my opinion surpassed WinMo quite awhile ago.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] krat0s123:
yes.. but that wasn't the case.. our HD2 can support the OS, hardware wise.. it meets all the requirements as it's nothing really different from the HD7, except of course the soft buttons and the kickstand in the back.. i would understand if the reason why they're not supporting our HD2 was because for example our lcd won't be able to support the graphics for the new OS, or the ROM on our HD2 isn't big enough for the OS etc. but no, we won't get any update support simply because we have too many buttons.. that's all.. which could actually be easily remapped or disabled... and, it's nothing close to computer OS.. as you can install win7 to a 5 year old computer, with no problem.. hence they even have the drivers integrated to the OS.. but buttons?? and also, WM6.5 stops at 6.5.. microsoft even said so themselves.. and the new ROM was from HTC, not from MS..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zarathustrax:
He was talking about 6.5 and 6.5.5 builds by Microsoft, not the new rom for the hd2. Yes, New builds are being made and get incorporated into roms for lots of winmo devices.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] norpan111:
+1
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] oniddy:
Sorry for all this Wm and android threats that everybody firing up because of me lol its true love xda and android because its the best and I'm starting a revolution where if a company don't care about us loyal customers then we show them the business and who's the boss hahhh we the best nobody buying windows 7 cause I said so now who's with me lol ....loving xda and android now their loyal Lol specially xda where u get things for free and give them some money just to buy beers Mann they gonna get drunk and upside down with me because when android is finish I'm getting them drunk hahaaaa word everybody getting tipsy lol
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mskip:
Are you sure ur not a bit tipsy lol I think its going around today it must be midweek party time :D

Mark.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] oniddy:
Hahaaaa keep up the good work guys, got alot of love for ya ...and yeahh drunk at the moment Lol
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dontw:
I honestly would just be happy if I could just boot straight into android....6.5 can stay on the nand..but I'm in no rush for this release ..as we all have seen the dev know exactly what they are doing..no doubt I check this forum every day hoping to see NAND released! ! But I'm a very patient person...I just wish people would stop asking for etas and what not..I'm sure that's not going to make the process faster...just be greatful we have android on our phones in the first place....greatness can't be rushed..and by the looks of it the hd2 will be one of the greatest phones of all time...so everyone just chill and let it be great...our time will come lol I just wanna dedicate this line to saying Fu@k Microsoft...and when its all said and done we will probably have wp7 android and everything else under the sun running nicely on this phone...take that *****es !!! Lol cheers ......
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] sashaohio:
I would like to have Android only version, so I second the motion :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] oneonembrey:
Ay yo u went hard on this... favorite post on this theard so for..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] justwonder:
HD2 runs wm 6.5, everything else is just a BONUS.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dontw:
Thanks ....I had to..people just take things for granted...people don't realize that this phone only is supposed to 6.5..that's all...these dev work there asses off to make all this possible...and for FREE...I mean people donate..but the product is still free...just show some patients and respect...much love to everybody working on anything that has to do with prolonging the life of this phone...