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[Captivate General] V DidDy 210:
Thanks guys, yeah whenever you start ANY navigator app, att navi will start (its triggered by the gps starting) when you start any music player att music starts (it is triggered by com.google.music(sic))

these little things can be avoided and lets be honest, the stock touchwiz music player is really good. I have copilot so no reason to pay att. Navigation is a top notch free gps too.

the only one I could see is maybe you like mobitv, that is actually pretty decent of an app, but things like allsport, where, ypmobile, all of these can be accomplished using the browser.

I'll edit the post to include the links, but I just feel like when I'd be working on code or something, if someone was whining it wouldn't motivate me.. Why would I wanna program the Captivate (apart form sheer love) for people who'd just complain you know?

I'm messing around with the sdk and what not and I just got me a second Captivate so i'll be doing all sorts of tests to see what it'll take to get stock froyo on it, but i'm still a novice so i'll keep updating everyone and hopefully we can get 2.2 as a community :-)
[Captivate General] abezapata:
@V DidDy 210 I like your attitude. I hope more devs like you come around to the captivate scene as I would and the community as well would greatly appreciate it. I know I will. I will try my best to contribute and help with any interesting development on this device.
[Captivate General] dsjr2006:
I have rooted and removed the AT&T and many of the Samsung apps, but that didn't really change anything. If it were just those then owners of the International versions of the Galaxy S wouldn't be having the same issues. I think the problem is much more than AT&T bloatware.
[Captivate General] dsjr2006:
Being a running process and actually consuming resources are two different things and I'm not seeing anything worth making a big deal about since they are just sitting in memory.
[Captivate General] V DidDy 210:
What is your problem? Is it laggy? I haven't noticed any lag on mine, I've removed the bloat (all of it) rooted (obviously) added sideloading, installed flash 10 and check all the dbs for any scripts that might still be activating unnecessary scripts.

I haven't found any, and unless I actively run something (widgets or apps) nothing is running on its own. Only the most rudimentary of services run in the background (unless I tell something to) and my phone is 99% lag free. It is laggy at startup while it is parsing through my media files and it is laggy when I have a bunch of apps open (I'm talking around 16-17) otherwise in day to day operation (browsing, phone calls, music listening, watching movies while on the treadmill, etc.) I have no problems.

I'll try and help you, just need more info on whats going on
[Captivate General] V DidDy 210:
This is true, but while they are running there they still consume even the smallest amounts of usable memory...unless you like the ATT apps there isn't any real reason to keep them. Even if it uses 1kb of ram...its still 1kb of ram wasted
[Captivate General] cliffgardner:
Excellent post but more importantly.... it seems to be a very necessary post. I loved the site when I had my Hermes, Kaiser, Touch, and other HTC devices ~2006 - 2008 but now that I came back with my Android device, it definitely seems like the tone has changed.
[Captivate General] Dxtra:
My question its are we all having the same problem? I experience lag, unresponsive touch due to lag also a black screen that hangs when you open a app. If so, I'm rooting right now. Please some one confirm. BTW this its a universal problem with all Samsung galaxy s phone. So I'm inclined to think its the firmware not the att bloatware.
[Captivate General] djunio:


Is flash 10 working? Does video play in the browser? Can you point me ibm the right direction? :-)
[Captivate General] cliffgardner:
LOL. I thought you were serious for a moment.
[Captivate General] V DidDy 210:
Flash works intermittantly...it does when it wants to it doesn't when it doesn't wanna.

flash games don't work because click context menus is a no go.

vimeo seems to work, but viddler doesn't and if you're interested in streaming feeds i'd say go skyfire.

but all you need to do it enable sideloading or use droid explorer and get flash_for_21.apk a simple good search and you should have it. its freeware so feel free to distribute it
[Captivate General] djunio:


Haha i already have it on my vibrant just being an a**
[Captivate General] V DidDy 210:
yeah i noticed that **** about 30 seconds after i gave you a response :-p

i officially hate you. lololol
[Captivate General] djunio:


Your welcome lol, can't wait to see what u can cook up for us
[Captivate General] V DidDy 210:
Yeah I'll have to do it on my spate timer but I got stock froyo and I got a spare captivate hopefully I can work some magic
[Captivate General] TexUs:
That'd be awesome if we could get stock Froyo working...

No bloatware FTW ;)
[Captivate General] V DidDy 210:
That's the ultimate goal

Though if you remove the bloat ware the eclair runs really freaking fast
[Captivate General] MSigler:
I disagree, I find the Captivate to be unreasonably slow.

I'm going to keep it, and I know that it will eventually be fixed, but it's unacceptably slow as shipped, and even removing the bloat doesn't help much. It will eventually be a great device, but I feel it's currently pretty disappointing.
[Captivate General] V DidDy 210:
Really? Compared to what? I'm just curious because I've yet to experience any major slowdown unless i'm downloading a big image from my exchange server.

Its funny because this phone is the first since my WM days that people have extremely varying experiences. I mean everyone got a pretty average iPhone experience unless they jailbroke and no one liked the backflip (if they said they did, they liedddd)
[Captivate General] MSigler:
I also have a Nexus One, and while I realize comparing the captivate on 2.1 to a device running 2.2 is unfair, it runs decidedly slower than stock Eclair did on the N1. The hardware is faster, but the software is not very good.

I rooted about 15 seconds after I opened the box, I removed all the ATT crap, I'm not running any stupid stuff.

Last night I launched the camera to take a pic, it showed a black screen for a solid 20-30 seconds, then loaded the camera app, but didn't respond to any input.

After I pulled the battery and rebooted, then let it boot up fully, I took some pictures and tried to upload them with photobucket. It lagged so badly I added the same picture three times, and then wouldn't respond to input to cancel the duplicate uploads.

Again, I realize that the hardware is very capable, and I know that soon the dev community will fix the issues, but I was definitely disappointed with the stock rom.
[Captivate General] ewingr:
"Bloatware" -

I am removing some. But I found that I may have a use for some. Trying to figure that all out yet.

For example, I want to be able to control my HTPC/Music playing from my phone. On my old Tilt/WinMO device, I had done all kinds of crap to do that: ultimately used Net Remote and JRM, and set up macros on a remote and used Girder. I don't have those options on this phone that I know of yet.

But DLNA may be the answer. Just learning it late last night and this morning. So, the ALLSHARE app seems pretty cool, albeit not ideal. I wonder if there something better for that in the Market.

Regarding things just loading for no reason: when I first boot the phone, there is a hole S***list of apps loaded. I've been fussing with my mind as I read all the various posts about "Do use task killers / Don't use task killers". What I am experiencing is that if I don't, after messing with the phone for a while (read that opening and using different apps and generally experiencing the "it's new" phenomenon), it gets slow as heck and low on memory. So I am using the task killer.

I hope I can contribute here too. I have already rooted, and side loaded. I am technical enough I can pick it up but not enough that I can be the first explorer. But I can help answer issues and questions as I learn.

I won't comment on all the whining in posts, that was covered very well by OP, but one thing that is a bit frustrating is that there will be a dozen posts about the same topic, and more growing every day. Why not do some searching and research and then contribute to existing posts? I suspect what is contributing to that is we are experiencing an influx of noobs to smartphones, and hence, an influx to the forum. Maybe we need a sticky introductory post / sticky - to noobs and new users to the forum. With a title that won't drive them away from even reading, and friendly suggestions for good use of the forum and forum etiquette.
[Captivate General] BBAHunter:
ewingr: I agree with your last paragraph but would like to offer a bit of advice: Don't yell at those asking questions already covered. Simply tell them it was covered and LINK to it while OFFERING actual help. That is the only response that will result in a positive attitude on both parties. Just remember that sometimes forum ettiquitte can ruin a community.

I do not have a captivate as I am waiting on the Epic 4G to be released (contracts byting...), but I can tell you I read this entire post and appreciate the information and discussion as it will most likely apply to me next month. Thanks guys!
[Captivate General] boe_dye:
Having been on this forum for years and taking a sidebar for a bit onto the iPhone side, I can agree. People complaining "Why Root" is a bit annoying. iPhone is a simple to use, no frills phone (no frills not in features, but in functionality). What you see is what you get. Jailbreaking not withstanding, it is a pretty solid OS that runs quite smoothly.

Part of that is due to Apples Militancy in their design and locked down OS. When it comes to other phones however, and this has always been this way since I started playing with Windows Mobile 5, carriers want to load up their bloatware with redundant crap so that you can use THEIR often time paid services.

Mobi TV, ATT Navigation, ATT Music...

Etc Etc. All auto loading features that turn on whether you want them too or not, tricking you into using them and spending more money.

Plus they are memory hogs which slow down the things that you WANT to be running.
[Captivate General] boe_dye:
BTW, I found this thread a few levels deep.

It is all that and a bag o' chips!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=728989
[Captivate General] V DidDy 210:
Yeah, I put the links in here so if someone wants to sticky it I'll more than gladly change the title to Reasons to Root...

I was sick and tired of the whining, when I wrote the topic, there was already maybe 5-6 pages of threads in this subforum, the phone was out i think 3 days and 90% of them were what does this do? why can't it do this? etc. etc.

and while i will always be polite to everyone, I won't tolerate asshats, so they'll get the horns from me :-D
[Captivate General] accinfo:
Do we even have an active mod for our forum?

If not, we have to assign that position to someone respectable and active.

If yes, ... cannot really comment on this since i'll be banned probably ha.
[Captivate General] ewingr:
Sorry, if you think that was yelling, then I think you are a bit sensitive. If you read it again, I believe you will see that I was not speaking to any particular poster; that I was offering what was a bit frustrating to me; as well as a stating that it was likely due to new folks to forums (providing the reason/justification for why they do it, and offering a possible solution) It was pretty mild compared to responses some people provide when they lash out at people who obviously do not search.

So again if you are offended, I apologize, and suggest you toughen the skin a bit.;)

Thanks for the advice.

Now, back to our regular programming.
[Captivate General] eunique:
Im with you on this, buddy. I think some "newer" members or lookers are just

too lazy to read and/or do the research.

I am new to Android and "fixed" my phone in a day and am

very happy with my new Captivate!!!

If they even spent just a little bit of time and read the posts and threads...

with a little patience...they will have a much better experience.
[Captivate General] eunique:
froyo is not available yet for our phones..at least not that I know of..

but, it should be out soon enough. just be patient.

also...after rooting and doing some tweaks...this phone runs like a dream!!!!

also, Task Killer helps out a bunch...U can kill all those apps running in the background that you dont need running.

just like a windows computer..if your have 10 apps/windows running in the background open...it slows it down no matter what speed processor and RAM you have.
[Captivate General] boborone:
Not a cap owner at the moment (so not sure how this is gonna sound) but the dev sub forum is embarassing to look at coming from the raph, tp series of the forums to this.
[Captivate General] ConceptVBS:
Perhaps its a good idea to post your firmware versions on the phones as some people have newer firmwares (i.e. 6 vs 7)
[Captivate General] V DidDy 210:
I see no reason not too
[Captivate General] BigJayDogg3:
I get where you're coming from, but you have to remember, the Raph has had time to mature. The community has learned what it has to offer and how to best exploit its features. The Captivate is all of a month old? In time it too will mature. I think the release on every American carrier has made sure of that (at least I hope that's the case).

My Fuze will always have a special place in my heart. lol
[Captivate General] Dean Guilberry:
Rooted Captivate AT&T stock 2.2

Just to let everyone know. The stock AT&T 2.2 will root just fine with SuperOneClick V1.8. Downloaded w/o virus alert as well great job to devs.

Thanks
[Captivate General] brettzx:
Thanks for this extremely useful post! it is much appreciated.

Link to list of "safe to remove" bloatware:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=798761
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ts70:
Hello together, I am new here (well, at least as poster)

I've got a used XDA Diamond Pro (aka Touch Pro, german O2 branding) and try to "move in" form my old Prophet.

The new thingy can soooo much more, but the actual reason to change was the shiny look and the hardware keyboard - from both I am a bit disappointed in the last four weeks I try to get used to the new device...

But my actual problem is this:

On the Prophet I use ozBT 0.76 to automatically switch on Bluetooth when a call comes in and I drive in the car and the hands-free setup should take over. Works great there.

Now I want to move this over to the Touch Pro. ozBT 0.76 runs. Fine. It starts the BT when I start the telephone app to start an outgoing call. Fine. But the other way (which is the more important one) does not work: Incoming call does not start the BT. When checking this, I found, that the WM 6.1 does not start the full telephone app (german window title "Telefon"), but only a notification dialog with a accept and a deny button.

Now - how do I tell ozBT (or any other program which needs a program name or window title to ask the task manager process whether something is running or not) what to watch out for? i.e. what is the name of the process behind that notification dialog?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ts70:
Hi again,

the problem is solved - and a little bit more tricky, than I had expected:

(1) The phone app is cprog.exe and it runs as long as the phone is booked into a network - so that is not the right solution...

(2) The first line in the notification window is "Eing.Anr." (german for inc. call) - et voila ozBT switches the BT on for "#bEing.;" in the "title begins with" section. So I can continue to get used to the touch pro now...

(3) General startegy next time someone needs a prog. name for ozBT:

most likely, the window title starts with a letter. So try in "starting with..." with "A", "B", etc. until you have the first letter, then continue with the second letter, most of the time that is anyway enough...

TS
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vlug:
Im having problems flashing a boot animation to my evo.... i do believe i am fully rooted bcuz i can do nandroid backups and flash custom roms to my phone.(If im not then i never knew, still kind of new to this) Everytime im in the cmd prompt and type the command ADB REMOUNT it gives me the error "Remount Failed: Operation Not Permitted" what can cause this error to pop up?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nief1313:
literally just answered the same question on the topic below you but here u go.

an easier way i found of doing it is to try:

download 'Boot Animation Changer LITE' from the market place

Using a file manager like ASTRO Navigate to the /sdcard/bootanims/STOCK folder

Delete the file 'bootanimation' in this directory

paste your version of the bootanimation.zip file

Open up 'boot animation changer lite' click on animations->Stock->change to boot animation->select 480X 800

reboot phone and u should be able to see your bootanimation
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vlug:
sorry for being a lazy ass and not looking..... i jus been lookin in the wrong places for a few days i guess. Well im bout to try this out and will respond back if it works or doesnt
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vlug:
ok it works, thanks alot man
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nief1313:
glad i could help :D
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MJStephens:
I'm running v1.7.0.1 and when I go to do a NAND restore I notice I have multiple files to choose from. I'm used to only having the lastest backup as a restore point. Is there any way to name these files? I figured out by trial and error that the last one (bottom) is the most recent backup. But it would be nice to be able to make some notes in the file name.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dave2582:
There are a couple ways:

1.) From within the phone: If you have Root explorer, Astro, or ES Explorer, and look for your nandroid folder, you are able to rename it that way.

2.) Mount your phone to your pc. Locate the sd card drive, scroll to your nandroid folder and rename away.
[General Questions and Answers] crobs808:
Is there a free option for printing from a Windows Mobile device to a networked printer (from the device's wi-fi, NOT bluetooth)

Thanks!
[General Questions and Answers] delokaver:
waiting for this app also !! waiting for the developer to action :)
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] mistry121:
Hey,

I'v been using these forums for a long time but finally came into a problem i could not search about on google and was wondering if someone could be kind enough to help:)

So I got a milestone that's from Brazil on 2.1 and sadly my 3g doesn't work:(. I downgraded the phone to 2.0.1 and my 3g worked again! I have been trying all day to get 3g working on 2.1 with no luck what so ever. I used root explorer on 2.0.1 to try and copy these files and replace them on my phone with 2.1.

File_Audio , File_Audio2 , File_GSM , File_Seem_Flex_Tables , generic_pds_init

The thing is i can't fine generic_pds_init on my 2.0.1 phone. None the less I tried copying audio, audio2, gsm, and seem flex tables on my 2.1 but after i reset it i get stuck at the motorola screen. I was wondering if anyone figured out how to use 3g on a brazil milestone with firmware 2.1. If so would anyone be kind enough to help me out? Thanks
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] aalopez10:
finnally a new facebook chat app that has the iphone interface.

looks good on the EVO,

enjooyyy

enjoyy
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] TheBiles:
Is this not on the Market?
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] aalopez10:
yeah, its a new app put up today.

search on the market for "GO CHAT" and its the first one.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] DXL007:
Why in your screen shots there are no adds, but the app in the Android store had ads, and if you DL the one from your link it has ads too?
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] timothydonohue:
maybe he also has ad-free installed. that would block the ads.

i use it. i hate ads.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] xxbabiboi228xx:
If you no what your doing you can also replace the host file in the system/etc folder and have add free for all apps
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] ndnplaya36:
How do you get the ad free version? Does anyone have Go!Chat Facebook Pro. for androidd???
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] TheBiles:
You buy it in the Market. I tried it, but eBuddy curb-stomps it. You can have pretty much any IM client on it (Facebook, AIM, GTalk, Yahoo, etc).
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] koneeak:
One Of My New Favorite Apps.. This Is Nice!!
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] _KaP_:
Hi!

I'm one of the devs of Go!Chat Facebook, thanks for the nice words! If you have any idea about how doing it better, please tell me! :)

Thanks!
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] osacapcom:
1.remove the ads

2. and put nice icon for the app that make the user notic this is a facebook app example this icon.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] cosine83:
+1

eBuddy rocks. All it needs is chat history and it'd be perfect.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] SilentSummer:
Hows battery life look using this app?
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] aalopez10:
im not the dev, but in android apps anything that is free requires ads, if you dont want ads you gotta buy the pro versions to remove all ads for any application on the android market.

and yes i do agree with you with the change of the icons, it will look nicer.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] SilentSummer:
This is actually far from the truth. There are plenty of apps on the market that are free and run ad free.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] _KaP_:
If you want no ads you can buy the Pro version, it has no ads, and it's out in the android market :)

About the icon, we'll think about it :P
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] twerk:
ebuddy FTW!
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] hazehyche:
hey is there a go! chat facebook pro(add free) .apk file .if so please put the link in your response thanks
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] amirborna:
Trillian Beta does this and I like it + free
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] iomthd:
Trillian Beta is free, when the final is out, it won't be.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] rontonomo:
you can facebook chat using the default browser just go to facebook click on the person in the left pane you want to chat with and it will open up the chat screen on the page its works
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] matthewjulian:
I see this is your 1st post so I know you are brand new to XDA and I will not flame you, BUT you need to know now that XDA NEVER has and NEVER will allow or support warez in any way, this is a community of Devs and Android users, please support the Devs they work very hard to bring us new fun and useful apps. Just a fair warning people will either flame you or ignore you if you ask for paid stuff for free here. OH, remember the market has a 24hr refund policy get the paid one and if you dont think its worth your money you can just return it:) Welcome to XDA!!:p
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] scorpionguru:
I never needed to use an app because when you open Facebook on the browser in "Full Site" mode on EVO with Froyyo you will be able to do Facebook Chat right thru your browser like you do on your computer.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] jgalan14:
so is this better the ebuddy on battery life? just asking because i see that everyones like ebuddy but nothing being say about batery life(sorry if i misesed it)
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] kingakuma:
i just use aim it has facebook chat built into it
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] recca666:
Yea, I also found that is an easier way to chat on Facebook. I told my brother about it but he disagree with me. Some people like my brother wants their account logged in for 24 hours a day on facebook chat and notifiy when someone sends them message.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] hello00:
The latest facebook for android has chat, which I think is better than this app
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] mattykinsx:
Completely disagree.

The facebook chat is completely annoying and leads to wakelocks and other issues.

I believe go! chat is much better.

-Never have an issue with disconnects [that aren't related to the facebook servers]

-Continually adding new features

-Like the dedicated app to chat.

Definitely paid for the pro version.