yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] juicecultus:
Who cares :)

I still run Darkstone's Froyo (no sense) build dated 26.July.2010 based on Open Desire for HTC Desire. I honestly say it worked perfectly since that very day he released it and, although i have tried endless builds since then, no other stayed on my HD2 for more than a few hours, mostly because of screen freezes, errors, hangs, unreliable data connection, inability to install from market place, etc

Always went back to the 26.07 build. All I had to do to it was to update the kernels and patch various: camera, bluetooth, lights.

I totally understand him for not liking nexus and evo/desireHD builds, and would be grateful if he were to build another AOSP build.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jamieeeee:
from twitter:

http://twitter.com/htc_linux/status/25902627047
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] norpan111:
He just said he won't do any second build with the DesireHD BETA as base, But when the full rom comes along. I cant see why not?

btw i love "NANdroid" name ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] motoman234:
Awesome-ness. So I'm assuming that means its ready to be built?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jamieeeee:
thats what i think to make of that message :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] motoman234:
I hope so, thats one major step closer.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] smjfosho:
sorry bro, nandroid is already taken.

a nandroid is a backup of a rom made in a custom recovery in native android devices.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nemo0405:
First Post

I think the first post needs to be updated to give new Info on the progress... Isn't that why this thread was started? it would be very convenient and we wouldn't have to read through many many posts or look for different links for different twitter updates :) lol im just being lazy :-P
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] motoman234:
I was thinking the same :p It would be a dream to have nandroid on a HD2.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] smjfosho:
biff was talking with amon ra about a custom recovery once we get NAND
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rajkosto:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5t_FXFOaNY

all thats left from the linux side is wifi initialization fix
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] thesweeney:
very nice.... good stuff
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] motoman234:
That would be just plain awesome, I cant even imagine being able to make a full backup while running Android from system. :) Im so use to how the HD2 is, I completely forgot about how it use to be on the ol' mytouch/g1.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pack21:
did this compass fix, make Google skys app, works well?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] smjfosho:
i feel ya man, i had a mytouch before this, my dad has a mytouch so i help him, but it would be different going back to that.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kdeguy:
what has donations got to do with developing? i'm relatively new to the xda scene, but it should be quite obvious to anyone the extremely talented devs who contribute a tremendous amount of code and their time do so not to benefit monetarily, but for the joy of facing a challenge.

what you are insinuating is quite malicious, and i find it insulting to all devs and the spirit of this forum, to say the least. i hope you get your ass whipped right and proper.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] motoman234:
Very cool, the bootup was pretty quick also. It looks like things are getting very close Eh?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] motoman234:
Yeah, I remember you from the 32B forum. It seems we both got the HD2 close to the same time. I played with my buddies the other day. I felt like i was playing with a midget phone :p Im getting antsy about checking out where nand is going.:)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jubeh:
You obviously haven't been around long enough...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tarekkkkk:
haha good one , you should consider to become a teacher :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ElBartoME:
Yes, it works so far.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Jammie_1989:
Thanks for the update appreciate it along with all the hard work :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] norpan111:
You are absolutely right! I thought I recognized that word :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] billgs:
Rajkosto, could you please tell us the standby battery drain as shown by current widget,when running android from nand? Thanks in advance.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pack21:
thanks!

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[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Mega Maniac:
How about nanddroid? :p

or a bit more seriously nand-droid.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] 666Duvel666:
You know? Like an year ago when i bought my hd2, it was back that time when it would come to stores has WinMo 6.5 phone but later would get an update to Win Phone 7. Microsoft told so but just when I saved all the money to buy it, Microsoft went a step back on that decision and cancealed that update. I was at the store with his box in my hand ready to buy it and thinking: "well... you will not be an Win Phone 7... but you're soooo gorgeous... WELL FU** IT COUSE THE DEVS FROM XDA WILL PORT IT ANYWAY!!"

LOLOLOL!! :p:p

Just to show u all the confidence i have on the Devs of this forum!

No really... i'm a little bit crazy... heheheh

PS: sorry the bad english...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pack21:
yeap! F** you, MS$!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] 666Duvel666:
^^ indeed!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] shuntje:
Yeah F you for trying to make a product better smoother and more stable. I never had phone with MS software that ran better then the HD2 with 6.5. The only thing that ****ed my phone up good was the HTC sence **** always crashing and ****ing up text messages. I ran a clean 6.5.1 rom (no sense) for 2 months and i never rebooted it in that time Nor did i have any other issu's.

And Fyou for not giving us an update to a totally new operating system that was not designed for our phones. And F you for having some over enthusiast team members that said it would come to our HD2.

Geesh man Get over yourself.

MS is not going to give away millions worth of profit for a phone that came out a YEAR before the new os comes out. Ok maybe if the HD2 would be released about 1 month before it reaches Distribution ready status then it would be wrong of MS not bringing a update to the HD2.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] 666Duvel666:
wow man calm down! you didn't get my point! Try read my post without thinking i was flaming!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] squish099:
**cough**cough** wow that's good stuff... here shuntje smoke this it will make everything better....**cough**cough** ;) wow man calm down HTC DID tell us we would be upgraded. Then MS stepped in and said the chassis didn't meet specs cause it had 5 buttons. Sh*% happens we have Android, its better then anything MS will ever make if you don't agree, well just keep running you dead 6.5 or pony up 600 bucks for "new" MS IOS.. Sorry not trying to come off rude.

sent from my desire hd2
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] shuntje:
No HTC did not, some over enthusiastic worker from HTC did there never was a actual statement from HTC that there would be a upgrade.

I'm using android from the moment the first beta's came out and for me im never going back to MS so im not trying to make them look good. All i am saying is if you want to bash MS do it for the right reasons not because a employee from HTC and or MS made a mistake.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] juanreboiras:
bye bye wm

my friends, i have my new phone htc hd desire. Its great and singular, no match windows mobile. Your interfaces is fabulous, very very fast. See weel in the post for this phone, chau windows mobile.: D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] 666Duvel666:
^^ i understand and agree with u. but i wasn't trying to compare any os's. you guys completly missed out my point that was only to tell how much confident i have on this forum :p heheh...

nevermind. this is way too offtopic and sorry for that.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mskip:
The only thing I have to boot back into WinMo for is when I need to do business support on the phone and need to record the conversation (2-way) for later diagnosis.

Has anyone come across a working call recorder for the HD2 in their travels? I have tried total recall and call recorder from the market but they only record the outgoing part.

Maybe it will be fixed with NAND as at the moment I believe Android uses certain parts of the WinMo drivers for sound.

Mark.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] 666Duvel666:
Man shill out dude! I'm not an WinMo neither iOS nor Android fanboy. And i wasn't trying to bash anything ok? Shill man. I love my HD2 Droid! And this is what this thread is all about. :cool:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dlsniper:
If I may ask you, is the device id working with the new kernels/nand build?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] squish099:
Geez its a amazing they get anything done some of you people are idiots case in point:

03:38=> kabz joins

03:38 kabz September is finished 03:39 kabz and there is no build from cotulla

03:39 kabz shame..

03:39 arrrghhh :'(

03:39 arrrghhh cry a tear for you kabz

03:39 kabz my HD2 lost its value :(

03:39 kabz too much

03:40 kabz left
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hidden_hunter:
It's still September everywhere in the world :O (even our New Zealand comrades)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] sleepwalkers:
Probably not, there's already an Android recovery backup tool called Nandroid.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] squish099:
It's close realllll close.... I don't think its coming tonight but soon. Just wish idiotic morons would leave the devs alone

sent from my desire hd2
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nks2105:
that dude just doesn't deserve to get a NAND boot for being such an a**hole

sadly there is no way to prevent it :P
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jelliottz:
+1... how can someone be so impatient and condescending when he's not even paying nor doing the developing m work.

Thank you devs for being the few who do what the many can't: make our great phone even greater!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] motoman234:
Agreed, Its still September anyways. Whats a tool bag.:p
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Jackuuuuu:
Hopefully, magic will shine!! Last day of september! Thank you for the hard work and testing in time! I'm patiently waiting ^_^
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] sylau90:
+1...LOL...impatient + didn't think before he talks...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Apache0c:
Thanks for the updates.

Thanks for the updates.

Nandroid is taken but NANDdroid isnt. ;)

Thanks for your videos man, they are awesome.

You get 'em kde guy. I'm actually using KDE right now but I think I'm starting to like Gnome better. ;)

Dang it, you beat me to it. I like NANDdroid though, doesnt need the hyphen.

Nandroid

NANDdroid

See the difference?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] arifqur:
Nope none of the call recording apps work. Also tried Total Recall but only records one side
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pack21:
This is it....the day of the great party.

i'm só happy, to finnaly shut off the Wm of my baby
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] maseo:
You know something some of us don't ? ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] fig_jam_uk:
Stop it lol... I remember a week back :P
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] figtab:
From HTC_Linux Twitter:

@HTC #HD2 #Linux NAND (internal storage) driver source code in git http://bit.ly/bPxNpe 5 minutes ago via web
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] quertox:
@HTC #HD2 #Linux NAND (internal storage) driver source code in git http://bit.ly/bPxNpe 9 hours ago via web

not so new
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pack21:
Today is the last day of September, so is very probably we get the mlgr release.....I'm very optimist of that.

If not, no problem will wait patiently.....

I happy with mdeejay3.1 DesireHD.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Beefheart:
This thread is hilarious.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] the-virus:
and who the hell told you that it will be releases this month? cotulla? not? than please ignore what the person said.

the rest of your post shows the opposite.

to all of you: they will release it when they finished the code and all works stable.

going to this forum and open 500 threads to this topic will not help you ton get this all today instead off in 1,2,3,4,X weeks

there is a phrase you should know: its done, when its done.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dusdus:
hehehe cotulla actually did say he would get us a suprise in september. Now go back to your room and sulk! ;)

Please don't take life, or our beloved HD2 and this thread too serious :D

This thread delivers.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] thatruth132:
cotulla said a surprise butr he never said what..............
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dusko_m:
these are cotulla exact words said on this forum. I don't know where did you get an idea that there is an ETA by the end of september?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pack21:
This is not a thread of NAND release.....this is a thread of off-topic NAND talk.

If you don't like, don't open this.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] DJGurth:
????

mdeejay3.1 DesireHD

Where is that build?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Beretta93:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=780525

Browse thread for download link. It was deleted from 1st post when XDA was down.

Anyway, of course NAND's release was bound to getting some delay. Same thing for every project : last 10% always take as much work as the first 90%. Optimization is quite a job just by itself. Release should not occur too late, but not so soon. Way to go guys...

Prepare donations anyway. ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] figtab:
twitter sucks on my browser... the time stamp is always wrong. i thought it was new haha woops
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rajkosto:
that tweet is out of date anyway

http://gitorious.org/linux-on-wince...mmit/da1495365411465b662308d3b01ccaa11886e5de (2 days ago)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] 2wice:
Can you tell me what app gives you 2-way record in winmo please, need to use it on "cover-my-ass" business calls.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nks2105:
companies already have a really hard time to respect the deadlines so I'm not going to be mad if it takes a couple more weeks to the devs to polish their development.

no more funny threads like this one when it's done.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Ducter:
**** happens people. I don't think NAND is getting released today. Cotulla made an estimated guess to try and give us a time frame...most projects with assumed deadlines are pushed back. Be happy its still in development and ignore the date as its just a number. Stay the hell off irc and let them develop.

I am really thinking this thread needs to be closed as some of you post comments that are just stupid.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mskip:
Install the attached cab to device memory and soft reset. This will enable recording of incoming calls at the same volume as the outgoing voice.

You will still need to install a recording program such as vito audio notes to record the conversations but it works well.

Mark.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] 2wice:
Thank you very much :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] idevmag:
Thanks for the video and great efforts you guys are making

question: Is it possible to see the g-sensor demo for NAND? I mean how's performance for g-sensor with NAND?

If g-sensor is not fixed yet for NAND then pl ignore this.

iD
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] BoneMo:
October release

any known probable release date ??
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] thatruth132:
19:30	Cotulla	we have almost all working on nand

i think he meant people not wifi, camera , etc
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Beretta93:
Yea, in response to the "nand gang" thing...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jkm601:
Come on guys... enough with the "ARE WE THERE YET???" It will be ready when it's ready, until then, "go downstairs, have a Coke and a smile!"
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] steven1234:
my only real question now is does the nand flash fix the wakeup lag that we get every once in a while?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dubie76:
The overall performance will improve greatly. You no longer are having to wait to the ROM to access the SD card. It will be running 100% on the phone. Even though the wait now is in milliseconds, it will be improved.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zarathustrax:
I don't think anything will be that different except it will boot up much quicker, and maybe certain actions where there is a lot of reading and writing to memory, but that might not be too noticeable. Remember, everything still runs from RAM, whether it boots from SD or nand. Nand will transfer data more quickly to the RAM than SD would, so bootup will definitely be quicker, but don't expect too many other changes until there is more development on the kernel, which will also make the same improvements to booting from SD.

I'm looking forward to seeing if Android and winmo can both be stored and booted off nand, as I definitely still want winmo. There should be enough room on the tmous hd2 with 1gb. If it can, it will be the first phone that has 2 OS's on nand. I love having the best of both worlds.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] CaliCL9:
hey what is the link to the development chat that cotulla and everyone else is on? irc chat?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] lakeman:
I tried to find out by pm to someone who mentioned it but got no reply
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] atoore:
http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=IRC

And here are the logs

http://irclog.netripper.com/?chan=htc-linux

Hass.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] motoman234:
Here is a link to read there logs. This way hopefully newbs wont jump on here asking a bunch of questions :p http://irclog.netripper.com/?chan=htc-linux&day=1
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] krosemm:
Lol I keep hitting refresh and waiting for someone to go: "Almost 100% functional! I think we can release this guys!"

:)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Ducter:
I would CAUTION EVERYONE against rushing in asking a ton of questions, or asking about NAND in general. What you are linked to is NOT a general chat, its ONLY for development. Do NOT go into it, just read the logs if you cant wait...they are getting VERY annoyed with people just coming in to ask about NAND.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] thesweeney:
Well said.

Better to just view the logs....asking questions, or even just 'chatting' in that irc channel will only slow the devs down OR POSSIBLY WORSE!

Once more for good measure...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] fig_jam_uk:
Totaly agree, I wish people would just leave them to get on with it :mad: I dont think its just n00bs though that are doing it. Besides its not like they are getting paid for the wonderful work that they are doing. If it took another few months I myself would be fine as it runs well from SD but will be better from nand but we just have to be patient..

n00bs and long standing XDA citizens do yourselves and everyone else a favor, STOP BUGGING THE DEVS.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] appoggio:
All those bloody gooddamn n00bs keeps pi**ing the s**t outta our developers... they better just wait patiently as we're all doin'.

On your knees, n00b! :mad:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Hauk00:
Cotulla said that MagLdr will support multiple partitions, so dual booting really comes down to figuring out an effective partitioning setup and packaging a winmo rom in whatever way the usb installer takes it, I'm assuming it will not initially be released with this sort of setup as the development team seems to all have the 512mb rom EU version, so I know what I'm doing on release day :P
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zat0x:
Just shut this topic.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mskip:
Why?

Would you rather have dozens of threads popping up asking when NAND development will be completed and whats happening?

At least this thread offers people a place to rant and discuss things rather than opening new threads and I have no problems with it as long as everyone watches their language and behaves :)

Mark.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] erlern:
Thanks Mark. I am really itching for NAND Android for HD2. Anyway, since many people are here, can I pls post a question which I have been trying to get help in....

I know its not related to HD2 (directly at least), but are there any tutorials on how to dump a ROM from a new device that no developers are working on (i.e. Mi700 DroidPad)? And do I need to root it first? etc. Guidance would be very very much appreciated.

Thanks, this is the ONLY thing that is helping me cope with waiting for NAND Android for HD2. :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hoss_n2:
but it doesn't belong to the development section it must be moved to the general
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] fig_jam_uk:
I agree, but this is where the n00bs will come looking instead of searching.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mskip:
Agreed. Thread moved to HD2 Android General Discussion Forum.

Mark.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kenyloveg:
Dude, i'm drunked.

Whatever, This day was comming......

I'm kind of Dell Guys waiting for the comming NAND release....
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mskip:
You're what lol?

Mark.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] wired15:
There is a new magldr up that is dated oct 1. More progress... Thanks devs for all the hard work
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] krosemm:
I don't know about you but I show appreciation to the devs by donating. So they will be getting paid for their hard work!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] fig_jam_uk:
Well yes I will be, but its not a guaranteed income for them as a lot of people wont do.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] cmlucht:
The development here is awesome and that's why I still have my hd2.

if every one quit bothering them the nand might come out quicker I know I can't work well with ppl always on my butt.

Anyway thank you to all the dev's .
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mskip:
Do you normally work with people on your butt?? :rolleyes:

Im not sure if xda should be affiliated with that kind of activity :p

Mark.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] numbskull100:
lol

Takes all sorts i guess