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[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kurtwoodfin:
I have searched the Evo 4g forums, and I am finding it difficult to verify NAND is unlocked/if I am fully rooted. I can confirm that I have partial root. I flashed the latest version of FRESH 1.0.1 with RADIO: 2.05.00.06.10 and WiMax Radio 25641. I also flashed netarchy-toastmod 'fix' for Epson AND Nova - Version 3.6.4 to increase my FPS. Everything seems to work ok.

I did find one post that stated I can run "adb remount rw" in a terminal emulator to check if I am unlocked. The emulator has su access, but I get an access denied and I can not create a folder in the system directory.

Is there an easy method for me to check if NAND is unlocked/if I am fully rooted? Thanks for the help.

Kurt
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] portugee:
Unlocked NAND gives access to the system partition as far as I understand. From the shell, run.

mount

Find what device is your system partition. Should be something like /dev/block/mtdblock4. Then try this.

mount -o rw,remount -t yaffs2 /dev/blco/mtdblock4 /system

That will remount your system partition into read/write mode. If that works your NAND is unlocked. You can remount your system partition back into read only mode by changing the rw to ro and running the command again.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kurtwoodfin:
Thanks

It took me a few minutes to figure this out, but it looks like I am fully rooted.

I opened terminal emulator on my phone then typed the following:

su

<enter>

mount

<enter>

I big list of things appeared, and I saw what you were referencing. The line reads the following:

/dev/block/mtdblock4 /system yaffs2 ro 0 0

If I understand correctly the system partition is in "ro" or read only. I then typed what you wrote. I think you had a typo because it errored out. I typed the following:

mount -o rw,remount -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock4 /system

<enter>

I then typed the following:

mount

<enter>

The line in the list now reads the following:

/dev/block/mtdblock4 /system yaffs2 rw 0 0

The "rw" means that I have read/write access to the system partition. I then typed the following to change it back to "read only".

mount -o ro,remount -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock4 /system

<enter>

mount

<enter>

The line now reads the following:

/dev/block/mtdblock4 /system yaffs2 ro 0 0

I am now back in read only mode, and this verified that I have full root access. If my reasoning is wrong, please let me know, and I will edit this post.

Hopefully, this will help others determine whether or not they are fully rooted.

Thanks for your help.

Kurt
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] portugee:
Everything in you post looks correct. Using the 'adb remount' command acomplishes the same thing but your rom has to support it and most don't because they are based off the stock sprint rom.

So just to reiterate, just because 'adb remount' doesn't work on your rom doesn't necissarily mean you don't have nand unlocked. There are also some tools like 'spare parts' you can use to remount your system partition from within the gui.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Land Master:
The easiest way is to determine which HBOOT version you have installed. Full root means you hane NAND unlocked which allows you to do anything.

79.00 = locked

76.20 = unlocked

Reboot and upon startup hold down the volume down and power buttons at the same time until the white screen appears. HBOOT version will be listed at the top in green letters I believe
[Captivate General] NOSintake:
Looks like Walmart may be the newest to have made a pricing mistake. Placed an order before they could change it. Question is, will I have a new 2 year contract in the coming weeks?

Here is a link:

Captivate for $229

If anyone else jumped on this, leave your comments in here. I'll take it as a group effort to see if anyone else gets hit with a new contract.

**Thanks to samven582 over at AndroidForums for finding this

***Link fixed now. Still waiting to see if my order was canceled
[Captivate General] F1fan07:
In for one..

I got one at a corporate store early, but paid $499. If this shows up tomorrow or Tuesday I will be a happy man.. Thanks OP! :D
[Captivate General] ben7337:
Wait, so this is like buying the phone outright, no contracts, no plan, nothing? In other word for $230 you get a 16GB phone and could just use it as an mp3/media player just like an ipod touch? If that's the case I am so getting this. Someone please verify.
[Captivate General] NOSintake:
Phone should be here Tuesday or Wednesday, so I'll report back then if any changes have happened. I just added a data plan so there was no confusion about getting a new plan. The only thing that has me worried is they ask for the last 4 of the SSN, and the number of the phone. Hopefully they don't use my upgrade cause I will be quite upset. But I will update as I see changes.
[Captivate General] hydralisk:
The link in the first post makes you choose a data plan... but apparently if you do, you can get the phone for free?

I don't see a "no contract" option.
[Captivate General] ben7337:
I think this is probably a special one day release deal thing given the fact that walmart says the price is special. At what stage do they ask you for your SSN? I am at the credit card stage and a little worried to give it to them. If this really doesn't require opening an account with AT&T or getting a cell phone plan then I think it just rocks. Though I still plan to get the new iPod touch and Epic 4g so maybe this is a waste. So tempting all the same though.
[Captivate General] ben7337:
On the right hand side underneath the price there are 3 options. the bottom one says "Phone-only price (no plan purchase)" If you don't purchase a plan then why would they require an internet plan, and where in the ordering process do they ask for that?

I just went all the way through the ordering process to the final stage where you agree to the Let's Talk terms and the Place Order button, nowhere on there did it ask me to add a data plan or anything. Then again they needed my phone number to verify me as an AT&T customer and I gave them my VERIZON cell phone number, so if I were to click place order maybe it wouldn't go through, or something.
[Captivate General] foxbat121:
Just ordered one as well. No contract requirements. If you are currently upgrade eligible, you can get it free.

No tax, no other fees. When it arrives, I simply need to put my current SIM card in and there probably won't be any activation fee either. Sorry, you iPhone 4 owners probably need to go to AT&T corp store and ask for a REAL sim card (vs the mini one in the iPhone 4) in order to use the new phone. Or sometimes, the new phones comes with a new SIM card. But in order to activate that, you will have to pay activation fee.

I fully expect places like Walmart, Best Buy and Amazon offer much better deal than AT&T but that typically only happens a few days after release.
[Captivate General] bjabah:
Order placed, if it goes thru that will be awesome.

bja
[Captivate General] mk69:
I just jumped on this offer and was able to pick a no contract option and paid 229 for the phone via my credit card. I did not pick any plans or accessories. It did ask me for the last 4 digits of my social security, my name on the account and the phone number I was going to use it with. "needed it to program the phone to work with the service" or something like that.... Completed the transaction and so far so good... Checked the online status right after and there was a note "customer attention" needed. But no link to what they needed. So I will keep you folks updated...

So for all of you who have completed the transaction, check your order status and post what it is.... I am wondering if someone at walmart/lettalk wireless needs to confirm everything and if there a hicup somewhere they might cancel all of these orders at this price???
[Captivate General] caelestis2:
Unlike a day ago, they now actually advertised a price. Since they advertised this price they HAVE to give it to us for that price or they can be in legal trouble. I found a pricing error once by Fry's and they had to give me the phone for $100 off even though it was incorrect.

I just checked order status and it says customer attention needed too. Also says it needs it before order can be completed, but it said my order was completed when I placed it. What is walmart doing...
[Captivate General] F1fan07:
I got the "need customer attention" thing too.. We'll see..
[Captivate General] foxbat121:
Got the same order status. Not sure what else they needed.

Maybe they have to check AT&T system to verify my account before completing the order.
[Captivate General] caelestis2:
Ahh, it says I only placed an order, but still, I should be able to say that it is false advertising if they try to change my order or cancel it.

Can we go to Best Buy right now and do price matching?
[Captivate General] abezapata:
Mine says customer attention needed as well. :( Hopefully I still get the phone.

EDIT: I did not have to choose a data plan btw
[Captivate General] tkalli:
Don't see it at Bestbuy.

:(

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[Captivate General] mesasone:
No they don't. Perhaps you're new to deal-seeking on the internet, but price mistakes pop up all the time, and the retailer can cancel your order with out repercussion. I placed an order for mine as well, but I'm not counting on it going through until I receive the shipping notification.

My order status is the same as everybody elses. So who is going to them up and find out what's going on? :)
[Captivate General] bjabah:
Mine says Customer Attention needed also and letstalk customer service is not open on Sunday. Feeling a little leery....

bja
[Captivate General] RCGodward:
Just placed my order and I'm seeing the same thing.
[Captivate General] mesasone:
At least one of us (a user on androidforum) has an order that is getting ready to ship already. They choose over night shipping, I wonder if that has anything to do with it. I just went for free shipping.
[Captivate General] tkalli:
This is a specific deal through letstalk.com, not Walmart.

You can go to http://www.letstalk.com/

and get the same deal.

:)

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[Captivate General] pinoymutt:
Add me to the list of "Needs Customer Attention."

Somehow I have a bad feeling about this, but the funny thing is that this deal is also plastered all of the regular Letstalk.com website as well (so not just the Walmart affiliate).

Maybe someone who has ordered from Letstalk or Walmart Wireless before could chime in? This could be standard practice on new accounts submitted on the weekends as well, as all of us newbies could be worrying for nothing? :) (Yeah, it's my wishful thinking....)
[Captivate General] fsrkewd:
just received an email from letstalk

Congratulations! The carrier you have selected has approved you for credit.

At your earliest convenience, please give us a call. Before we can continue fulfillment of your order, we need to discuss the following issue(s) with you:

A. Payment arrangements need to be finalized before we can continue with this order.

If you have any other questions regarding your order, please contact a customer service representative at LetsTalk, Inc., our fulfillment partner, at 1-800-539-1871, or email walmartreply@letstalk.com.

Sincerely,

The Walmart.com Connection Center Team

i tried to call the 1 800 number but their offices are closed
[Captivate General] Rad_Fishy:
I just called the WalMart help desk but it turns out they won't ship to Canada. I can't even ship to the US and use my Canadian credit card. Looks like I might not be getting this phone.
[Captivate General] kirbo20:
I just called and they told me I have to call back tomorrow to verify my order.
[Captivate General] NOSintake:
I get the same message, but they have already taken the money out of my account. We shall see what happens next.
[Captivate General] dexjaz:
Will contract terms change or upgrade date change in any way by buying from LetsTalk vs. from an AT&T factory store, even if you get it "phone only"? I remember when I bought a Fuze through an authorized retailer (non-AT&T owned store) the date to my next upgrade from my contract start date was longer (24 month) vs. when I've bought from an AT&T store (17 months for my current 9700). I'm premier and my monthly bill has gone down.

Letstalk seems like a good deal if it pans out and the phone only option is just that.
[Captivate General] tkalli:
I ordered one from Letstalk.

So far, have only received Order Confirmation.

No other emails.

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[Captivate General] pinoymutt:
Quick question -- what time did you place your order this morning?
[Captivate General] agagliar:
In case you need Canada calling plan, they don't offer it.

You are limited in your choices of plans if you want to upgrade to get it for free. I think people will be covered by there offerings but I wanted to renew my 450 nation with Canada plan, they don't offer any plans with Canada calling. The rep said I would have to stick with whatever plan they offer for 6 months before I could change my plan with AT&T. Doesn't make sense for me to renew, maybe go for no-contract option to keep my plans intact.
[Captivate General] fsrkewd:
i placed two order, one is on 10:50 and the other one is on 10:57

i heard some people already get their phone ready to be ship by choosing 2day shipping

so i gave it a shot

the one that i ordered on 10:57( the one with 2 day shipping) received the mail
[Captivate General] sansart:
I wonder if this will be available in stores...
[Captivate General] NOSintake:
Well I just called in to: 1) Change my shipping address (I put the wrong address down), and 2) see what was up with the order.

When I called in to change my address, that apparently was the reason why my order was saying I needed to contact them. I put in "Drive" instead of "Dr" for my address, and that apparently was the flag. We shall see though. Clearly, YMMV, but I thought I would give an update before I left for this trip of mine.
[Captivate General] anosis:
Well also jumped on the low cost Walmart band wagon. Got the same "customer attention needed" order status page and now it just comes down to waiting and hoping this was not just a big mistake.
[Captivate General] foxbat121:
It will if stores have them in stock.
[Captivate General] ratflinger:
Well I'm pissed - on Friday went down & extended my contract for 2yrs, Got a Captivate for my self & a Solstist for my wife & laid out $230 for both. I'm going down to the AT&T store today telling them to cut me a break or have the phones back & I'll go to Walmart
[Captivate General] Griffon23:
I just went down to two different local Walmart stores and they both had them in stock, but this is the answer I got:

"Two-Year Contract price is $149.99, Non-Commit price is $499"

When I told them the website showed different prices they told me that it's normal for the website to be cheaper and they don't price match their own website.

So I already spoke with Best Buy who is holding one for me and will honor the Wal-Mart website price for price match. Kinda weird I have to go to another store to ge the Walmart price, but I'm not complaining. :D

Good luck everyone!
[Captivate General] madjsp:
That's if this deal is legit and not a mistake.
[Captivate General] fsrkewd:
"I just called. Selected option '2', place order to get somebody to talk to. Gave my order number and got transferred to the 'offices are closed message'.

I called back and got a nicer sales guy. Talked to him a bit and he confirmed the price, then he stated that with outright phones they sometimes just want to confirm addresses and card numbers as there is a lot of fraud with the no-contract phones. I am paying with my business card but shipping to home address so I think that may be what the issue is. "

from Androidforum

looks like its possible that we will be able to get it
[Captivate General] tkalli:
Still no other emails.

No "customer attention needed" email...yet.​
[Captivate General] paradox4286:
I ordered one with overnight shipping through the letstalk.com page. So far so good.

edit:

i just checked the email again about 2 hours after ordering and it says customer attention needed, however my bank account was charged with the purchase price. I still hope it goes through, even though since i have t-mobile i won't really have a use for it. oh well, at least i can sell at a profit if it works and goes through
[Captivate General] mesasone:
You don't get a customer attention needed e-mail (at least, I didn't it). Open your order confirmation e-mail, and click on the link to check your order status.
[Captivate General] jmack1021:
Just an FYI, this is from Best Buy's website:

Let us know if it works though!
[Captivate General] ratflinger:
Ok, spoke to soon - looked at the new plan I'd have to take vs. the old legacy plan I have & for 'free' phones I'd pay $500 more over the life of the contract vs what I'll pay now. Think I'll stick w/ what I have. 'Free' is still open for debate.:o
[Captivate General] mesasone:
It may work in some cases, but I don't think most will be able to. It seems somewhat unlikely that Walmart proper would be selling the phone for that price, but you never know. I'm about to head to the ATT store and pick up mine - I also placed an order through the walmart/letstalk website. If it turns out Best Buy WILL price match that, I think I'll pick up one of those too :x (and of course return my ATT bought handset).

I figure the letstalk price is an error and will be cancelled, but we'll see what happens. If I could get two for 229.99 I may just keep the second as a backup.
[Captivate General] bjabah:
What number did you call? I tried and it said they were closed on Sunday...

Thanks,

bja
[Captivate General] tkalli:
Your right. Just checked and it is there.

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[Captivate General] littleasian:
hey guys, i placed an order via the website too but i also took the chance to call them. i asked the CS rep and he CONFIRMED that the price is indeed 229.99 on the website, that it is not a typo. in fact, he brought up the fact that its 499.99 on the att website and advised me to place an order in there quick before they get backordered.

i too have received the email about "customer attention needed" so we'll see what happens.
[Captivate General] SlimJ87D:
JUST TALKED TO THEIR CUSTOMER SERVICE!

I talked to their manager because of the whole verification thing. I also asked him that if the phone is actually $500, and there is a pricing error will we still get it for 229.99, and he said

No.

He also said that that captivate has gone under investigation but the department to do verifications are closed today... so by tomorrow there is a chance a lot of our orders might get canceled.

I ordered 3 of them, I'm hoping this all works out damn it!
[Captivate General] vactor:
i just placed an order from letstalk.com ... phone only ... $229 ...
[Captivate General] kdeezy:
Yea I took my chances and placed an order

Sent from my Liberated Htc Aria
[Captivate General] votum:
IM BACK XDA!

Took a long hiatus since I am in Iraq o.O My fuze broke before I left (what a piece of junk that was) and I paid cash for a bold 9700 just for a few days...going to ebay it and profit now since I badgered ATT for the unlock code hehehe.

Anyways, I just ordered my captivate as well, very very excited for it :) Going to call from work tomorrow (in iraq still) and verify my stuff so they send it asap!
[Captivate General] centex99:
Deal seems dead now.... I had a few in cart, but was on the verge of ordering and removed them and went back and now price is upto 499....

Seems like orders will likely be cancelled...
[Captivate General] bigo1087:
I just missed, it...i was about to place the order and the price went up.
[Captivate General] violinbf:
I just happened to jump in in time. Happened to be in my cart for the reduced price when the price went up. I hope that this is for real...
[Captivate General] mesasone:
Yep, the phone-only price is now 499 on the website for me (but my order hasn't been cancelled - yet!), but the price with contract is still free + some accessories, so that's a really good deal for those who can/don't mind signing a 2 year contract - if they honor that price of course.

In anycase, I just got home from the AT&T store about 10-15 minutes ago - no line (of course). Didn't bother asking how many they had in stock, since I was the only one in the store at the time. A few people came and went as they checked me out (forgot how long that takes... you'd they would stream line the process in the computers some... there was a lot of "clicking" involved for the sales rep), but nobody even glanced at the Captivate. Not surprised really.
[Captivate General] AimanF:
Just ordered my Captivate with 2 day shipping for 238.94, really hope this works!
[Captivate General] paradox4286:
hey guys, expect an order cancelled email. i just got mine.

Order Cancelled

Dear joshua,

We thank you for shopping at LetsTalk.com the smarter way to buy wireless.

Your order has been cancelled from the LetsTalk.com system - no funds have been debited. (CODE = OV)

however, they did debit the 267 out of my account. they're about to get an angry phone call, or i'm getting a phone.
[Captivate General] Main Target:
Yeah I spoke to a rep who said they will be cancelling/contacting everyone who got the order for the on contract price.
[Captivate General] pinoymutt:
Uh-oh, it looks like we are will probably be getting letters throughout the day and into tomorrow....

Too bad, I couldn't get the local BB (or Radio Shacks) to pricematch either -- they said the price was way too low to try in their systems...
[Captivate General] caelestis2:
This is genuine false advertisement no?
[Captivate General] tkalli:
Seems to me it is.

I printed out the page while it still had the $229.99 price.

Don't know if it will help or not.

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[Captivate General] DirtyRasa:
quick question about LetsTalk.com

How does it work?

If my dad is the account owner but I want to upgrade my phone, can I just upgrade my phone without effecting everyone else in the family plan?
[Captivate General] caelestis2:
I got the HTC kaiser for $60 cheaper when Fry's made a mistake on their advertisement and had to sell it for cheaper anyway. If they contact me I will demand the phone for the original price.
[Captivate General] Main Target:
Let us know how that goes. I was not able to get the order in before hand so I think im SOL
[Captivate General] sleepingsickness:
i tried to go through the whole deal and it seems really strange..

they offered me a second phone for free also

then it wouldnt let me check out and pay

idk

im about to go to an ATT store to play with this phone haha

what caught my eye for this walmart/letstalk deal was that it came with a phone charger and it was FREE for upgrade, not $200

but it doesnt work for me, oh well
[Captivate General] blazewit:
it was a bug...they are canceling all the orders that were made for the 229 price.
[Captivate General] mk69:
Well if they pull all the orders I have to say at least DELL stands by the pricing mistakes they make and honors the purchase. I 've gotten a few things from them when its too good to be true price. eg. Nokia e71 for 149 bucks... Vizio 32" LCD for 249...
[Captivate General] cotr:
$199 at ATT

just got it for $199 at a corp store!
[Captivate General] kirbo20:
I just called, they said it was a bug and they will not be honoring the price. They said their legal team says they are covered and they don't have to honor it because it was a website glitch. Sounds like a bunch of BS to me.
[Captivate General] caelestis2:
What legal term?
[Captivate General] paradox4286:
Yes, but they still owe me my money back regardless!
[Captivate General] tkalli:
They can probably get away with it, seeing as it is only $300.00.

For anyone to fight it would probably cost them more than that.

I will certainly file a complaint when I get a cancellation notice.

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[Captivate General] tkalli:
It was legal team

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[Captivate General] abezapata:
My order has not been cancelled yet so I hope it goes through. I plan to keep this phone as a backup or sell it to cover the cost of both my phones. If not I still got my captivate from at&t which has already been shippped to fedex!