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[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] tubaking182:
in my opinion they should be afraid to post, if they aren't then they make crap like this. i stated that he was trying to be helpful but without links this thread just takes up space and makes people ave to search harder to root thier phone. i am a nice person IRL, but i do not like wasted space. if someone has come up with a "easier" way to root then fine, but there is already a thread for preparing to root your slide, two threads on rooting your slide, and the slide rom bible which includes all of those threads, a stickie should be more than enough for most people and if not then they need to think before hitting that new thread button. there is no need for repetitive threads in the developement section. if there had been links in this thread(which i know he can't do as he is a new member) then it would have been fine and i would have shut up and left it alone, but right now there are two ways to root, one for computer people and one for script kiddies, either way if you can't get it to work with either method then you probably don't need root. if you can't read the simple walkthroughs then you don't need root, if you don't know what you are doing then you don't need root

EDIT: Here is the link to the thread that already covers all of this, and guess where i found it

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=708522
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] geoffcorey:
I did find this thread helpful, especially since i'm new to android. I want to know what i'm doing and the only way i can learn what i'm doing is from reading many posts and lots of trial and error.

I have read both of the rooting guides from the rom bible, and there is still some stuff left out. I actually like this guide better than the others because there is more help in the whole ADB part of the root process.

Now, i know what i'm doing with computers, it still freaks me out how much i can do with computers. But in new areas where i want to learn, it helps to have more info than needed because people have different viewpoints on the same process.

@tubaking182 - for most of the threads you come in bashing in the dev section, i agree with you. But on this thread, i think you're way out of line. Yes there are 2 threads already and yes this thread needs links. But it's not a waste of space. I've lurked on xda since i bought and returned my HD2 (~late april). And when the slide was released, i headed to this subsection. And i've only seen it go down hill with more people posting threads that needn't be posted, but also with "wanna-be" mods flaming the person who didn't think and posted the needless thread.

But now that animosity has taken a turn for the worst and i only seen bashing in this section of the slide section of xda. And it's really making me want to leave xda.

The whole rooting process can be easy to learn if you've come from a previous android phone and have previously used ADB commands. But when you're really lost about even the whole linux folder structure (i'm not totally lost with this, but i'm more used to the desktop linux folder structure), then some of the guides out there to do certain tasks seem like another language.

3 guides for the rooting process can't hurt, especially when someone who doesn't know what's going on in the process wants to figure it out step by step and is too afraid of members like tubaking182 are always going on about searching for previous posts and flaming for simple questions (not that people shouldn't search for previous posts and threads).

EDIT: i do commend all the devs for their hard work making anything like rooting the phone remotely possible.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] tubaking182:
tething is, when you want to post an issue about something you saw in another thread, the issue should be posted there, it will be answered when people see it or when the OP has time to get on and answer. i am not trying to be a "wanna-be" MOD as i don't ned to be on XDA any more than i already am regulating posts and mergng threads when they should be merged, this thread holds ZERO new info and therefore should not be posted. if this member found a simple one-click root(which i hope to god never happens with this phone) and he wanted to tell us about it and tell us what he searched to find it and whatever else then great i ould not care, but some things do not need a new thread, if users all searched the Q&A section, the General section, and the Dev section BEFORE clicking the new thread link at the top then we would probably have half as many pages in the dev section, we have 8 pages now that i have gone through in the dev section and i have seen way too many repeat threads and questions. if you wanna see who i am take a look through my posts, i am a very helpful person when people want HELP, but when people want ANSWERS and they want stuff easier and they post in the wrong section then i get irritated and my messages are less helpful.

the number one reason n00bs post in here is because more people will see it, unfortunately this means the devs have to deal with the BS threads that push their stuff to page 3-4 and most people don't read past page two to look for a thread
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] geoffcorey:
yes, but you have to remember this is a very publicized and a public forum. In another forum i belong to, this happens all the time even though we have clearly marked stickies in every section.

I bet you most of the pointless threads have the OP posting only once and never even commenting on the posts made after they got the answer. That is what happens when you have a forum that's known for phone customization (or any public forum for that matter).

EDIT: and i'm not saying you're mean, i'm just saying it's going a little too far.

EDIT 2: if someone makes a thread only looking for answers that have been previously posted, just don't respond to it as that person won't ever be back. it's as simple as that.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] ellessidil:
@lesstalk - Thanks for the guide, outside of the lack of links(out of your control) this is a wonderful guide that I have started pointing new MTS users to.

@tubaking182 - Fact is, the guide on this actual covers steps that were skipped over in the other root guides because they were assumed to be common knowledge. Its that assumption which will kill future android users desire to learn about the device, especially when its accompanied by such a poor attitude from the "regulars" of the forum.

Outside of the links being missing due to being a new user account on the forum, the guide was more complete and comprehensive than any of the other guides so far. It managed to cover step(s) that are easily overlooked by someone who has rooted other android phones before, but CRITICAL to function and not mentioned in the other guides. I cant count the number of people I pointed to the pre-existing threads on rooting for MTS, who completely missed the superuser.apk setup because there were not any steps written for it.

A well educated userbase is a happy and quieter userbase, and while there are alot of useless threads in this section, this one actually served a purpose.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] RED ZMAN:
^^^

Here here!!

This is the first guide that has explained it all, and now I feel like I can do it too. I've done my g1, and tons of wm phones, but this one is completely different. All depends on your background.

You should be trying to expand and diversify the user base, not alienate it. or would you rather lock up the keys and argue with your self all day?
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] eugene373:
I agree that this guide might Hold your Hand & even ( Might have missed steps ).

It's not my Job, nor any others person job to make sure you have your driver's setup & adb working correctly. There is plenty of other threads that already cover this, easy to find by using Google..

regardless, Thank you to the OP for try to help make things a bit clearer :)

~Eugene
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] dcowboys2184:
i feel u on that u do have a point !!! some people just that "dumb" and can't help it. they should post in the right thread but at the same time just putting them down isn't always the best way !!
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] sk8rbebop:
Ditto. This is a redundant and unnecessary post. There are more than four different guides and several other posts on preparation. Yes, they aren't written for a kindergartner, but rooting your phone isn't supposed to be easy. Do some research, read a post or several, and only post after your eyes start to bleed. Cluttering the forum makes it even harder for new members to the community.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] Rickmasta:
He made this thread for a reason. The other guides, yes you guys may think they're noob friendly, but you guys have done this before. The other guides can be confusing because they skip alot of details that I guess they believe the users already know, but we don't.

LessTalk, thank you for the great guide. This was very much needed. The other guides were not good at all, a tleast not for "noobs". How was I supposed to figure that the Image of a big phone with a huge exclamation point was the recovery screen? I spent 2 days thinking that I'm supposed to get to another screen because they didn't state this. Thank you so much.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] megan23247:
Rooting your phone isnt suppossed to be easy!? The other guides may not be written for a kindergardner but there not written for folks who are just learning this stuff for the first time either! I do agree folks should do their research but why not have a simple guide that 6 people have already posted and said was helpful?! :confused:
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] sk8rbebop:
It isn't. A large company makes a phone and puts its proprietary or licensed software on the device. The last thing they want you doing is putting other software on the device. Thus spawned communities like XDA. Rooting your device is, like the popular term, hacking. You circumvent the phones security to gain full access, root.

And, yes, the average new user will look at the rooting guide and see gibberish. I understand that, but so was a dozen other people who took the time to post under the original root thread. At the same time, others in the community responded to help them out. Lesstalk should have posted his guide there.

Our forum shouldn't be cluttered just because some people have an issue with reading long threads. Read, ask questions, and participate in the community. Don't look for the quick fix, "I'm the center of the world," B.S. and leave a trail of redundant posts. If you feel entitled to someone holding your hand, you should bought an iPhone.

To clarify, I'm not directing this at Lesstalk. I think he had the best intentions, some people were helped, and we're glad to have him on the forum.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] lesstalk:
Some of us don't have hours and hours to perform tasks that would ultimately only take 30 minutes when the proper steps are laid out.

There are too many guides that assume everything is installed and working before starting. If I had the ability to post links (not my fault), this would be a much cleaner install guide.

If you don't like the guide, that's cool. If it helped, great. I really don't care if people hate it, it was fun to create and hopefully it helped a couple people who received a ton of errors (like I did) when starting the process.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] Brandon9597:
Problem with getting "Offline Device"

I get the phone's ID while the phone is powered on normally when you type in "CD C:/asdk/tools" and then "loop". i Get the ID. But when i turn the phone off into bootloader, i cannot get the command promt to show offline device. Please help.

Also, what is a good Hero rom "WITH" live wallpapers?

Thanks, brandon...
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] niftymu:
Thanks to this guide, I now have successfully rooted my phone. Cheers!
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] sabreful:
i seem to have gotten myself into a pickle. and i'm not sure what to do about this. maybe someone here can help. it took me quite a while, but i was FINALLY able to get the mt3gs rooted. i'm missing half of the hair on my head after sucking down 3 packs of cigarettes.

I had to use slideroot.zip from another thread but basically followed the directions here, because i continually got the "e: no signature verification failed" errors. I'm assuming its because the ota.zip and the update.zip didn't match up. it worked for me in the end, clockwork recovery loaded, mounted, loaded slideroot.zip from the sd as well as update.zip and did all the adb push etc worked great. i now have root. superuser installed, its going on asking permissions for things here and there such as when i installed quickbook from the market for a fast way to get into clockwork recovery so I can flash roms here as soon as I am able. however, clockwork recovery isn't there.... just the basic bootloader and recovery. am i missing something? why didn't it stick....? how can i permanantly get it to show up??
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] ellessidil:
You will have to go through the same "loop" process every time you wish to access Clockwork.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] sabreful:
From what I understand, I shouldn't have to do that though it should replace your recovery menu completely right? its' just a matter of going back to recovery mode, then Up+power to get back to the clockwork recovery.... isn't that part of the whole reason we 'adb push update.zip' then APPLY update.zip?
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] elliotshoe:
I have to say the two existing guides are only guides to rooting your phone. It does not cover flashing the engineering rom, updating the radio, and getting to clockwork. I actually had to read both guides and take methods from each to get my phone rooted. Then I was totally confused when I couldn't get back into clockwork and found out you had to flash the engineering rom first to get into clockwork without having to go through the rooting process again. I think we need a complete guide to getting a rom on an unrooted phone from step 1.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] pbedard:
problem with rooting mytouch slide

hi i was wondering if anyone can help i cant gt the loop to work in the the rooting proccess any help would be grateful thanks alot
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] elliotshoe:
Try doing this. (Read through first!)

1) Open a console and 'cd' to where adb is (androidsdk/tools or where you extracted simple root).

2) Type in 'adb devices' and press enter.

3) On your phone, boot into Fastboot (white screen) and highlight Recovery but don't select it.

4) Unplug the usb cable from your phone and get ready to select recovery. (it should say HBOOT somewhere not HBOOT-USB)

5) Quickly plug the usb cable into your phone and select recovery. (select recovery before HBOOT appears)

6) Go back to your console and press up then enter (it should retype 'adb devices' for you).

7) Keep doing this until you see your device appear offline. When this happens you must quickly unplug the usb on your phone then plug it back in.

(It usually appears right before the screen changes from myTouch to the black recovery screen.)

If it worked your phone will be shown as offline or in recovery if you press adb devices. If it is in offline make sure you unplug the usb cable and plug it back in to put it in recovery. If it didn't work, just try again. This is how I was able to get it to work on my phone; it might help you but your phone could be different. When you have the phone in recovery follow these steps to root.

1) Put update.zip in the same folder as adb (androidsdk/tools or where you extratect simple root)

2) On your phone hightlight apply update.zip but don't press it yet.

3) In the console type in 'adb push update.zip /sdcard' and get ready to press enter.

4) Now on the phone select apply update.zip and once the little green bar in the background behind the text appears press enter on your computer.

If successful you will see yourself in clockwork recovery. You have successfully rooted your phone. Now flash the engineering rom and update to the latest radio afterwards.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=703076

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=705064

If it gives you a signature verification error or something else. Just keep trying. Once you get the timing down it should work.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] mulletcutter:
id rather do a gold card. . . .:confused:
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] lesstalk:
Create it!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Stephen:
I have developed a new rom from scratch. I have tested the rom and it is running stable. I have used the following to create the rom.

Orgional Stock Rom: HD2 1.66 WWE

OS Ver: 23127

Sense: 2.5.2016332.0

I have changed the page pool to 18mb but have not enabled the 576mb of ram as I have found that battery life and phone call quality is much better when it is not enabled.

I have designed the rom for both speed and battery life. In tests I have seen that it is dropping about 1% an hour in stand by with hspda on.

Download Here:

Screen Shots:

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I would like to give all credit to DINIK for the keyboard and dialer skins there very cool!

I have also skined both the main screen and both the dial pad and keyboard. Office has been upgraded to 2010.

Change Log:

Removed

Office One Note

Adobe PDF

Bing

Footprints

JetCet

MP3 Trimmer

Old facebook

Navi Panel

Quick GPS

You Tube

Added

3G comm manager

Dial Pad position fix

.net 3.5

New Facebook

Keyboard skin

Dialpad skin

Power Management

Manila Tweaks

Leo Hot Fixes

I would be keen to know what you think and any improvements you would suggest!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] criszz:
welcome new chef on hd2 forum.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] tehhoe:
Looks good :) i will have a weee test!

Will there be a Cookie release?

tehhoe (Scott)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Stephen:
Thanks man! I have only been using oskitchen for about 2 weeks so I would be keen to hear what people think of my rom!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Stephen:
Probably yes! I wanted to get my base rom working stable before I did too much to it. I plan on releasing a cookie version and a gtx version when I get a chance.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] thihaz:
nice rom

thanks mate. looks very solid and stable. :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] lufeig:
thanks for sharing your work, i'm willing to try it soon!!!

just one question to clarify things and/or avoid misunderstandings:

did you ask dinik permission to use his work, specifically keypad and keyboard skins?

congratulations for your release, and welcome aboard!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] criszz:
very fast indeed but i really mis 576 ram hack and CHT.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] srjohnston@btinternet.com:
This is a very nice rom!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Stephen:
I will be looking to add those features into the next rom. My goal for this one was to get a stable base rom working. Any ideas on how to hack the RAM? I know it will be a registery tweak but not sure what to do!!
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] sydtrakked:
I haven't tested it out yet but this caught my eye... put widgets on your lockscreen like Touiteur or Mixzing... etc...

For only 99 cents!

http://androinica.com/2010/07/16/wa...ckscreen-get-widget-locker-video-app-reviews/

I've now tested it a little more... You can also add shortcuts and change the style of the lock...

It does show the stock lockscreen for a second sometimes before it loads up and sometimes hangs before unlocking... but like mixedlemon said below... its a lot better than Lockbot... and does widgets!

I'm using xtrROM3.0.3 @ 748mhz
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] thewanton:
Saw this, it looks pretty sweet. Don't have any cash on my card at the moment though, so I can't try it out.
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] mixedlemon:
This is awesome, it's working great.

Nice find!
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] raphifix:
I saw this app the other day. Apparently, the developer is going to be releasing a new verison within the next week which will include different slider styles as well as sliders that can have different functions. Seems pretty sweet. I just need to know if there's any lag when in use.

Source
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] sydtrakked:
i actually have noticed some lag every now and then... still trying to decide whether it bothers me enought to return it or just keep it... its only a buck i guess....
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] mixedlemon:
If you'd like I could record a quick video before you buy it, putting it through a stress test with a screen full of widgets or something.
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] raphifix:
That would be great actually! Please note which ROM you're using as well as OC speed (if any). Thanks :D
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] mixedlemon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tI-l6QOSahk

I'm running KaosFroyo v23, overclocked at 710MHz.

I'm at my college right now, so all I had to record with was the webcam on my laptop, so sorry about the video quality :P

You can see it showing the stock lockscreen for a fraction of a second sometimes, but it has a nice fade effect to the widgets, so it isn't too obtrusive.

Certainly not as bad as lockbot was :P

Hope this helps :)
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] Sheen160:
Hell yeah Mirrors Edge. Such an underrated game. Anyway, nice video! I may have to go buy this now
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] mixedlemon:
Thanks!

I agree, it's easily one of my favorite games.:)
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] raphifix:
After viewing your video, I decided to give it a go. It seemed pretty fast when I used it (xtrROM 2.1/OC-710mhz), however, I really couldn't think of which widgets to put on it haha Also, it seemed to interfere with the Handcent sms popup feature. Anyway, thanks again for the video! Very in-depth...
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] mixedlemon:
Thanks! I'm glad I could help.

I've never really used handcent, what are the advantages of its SMS popup over, say, putting a messenger widget on your lockscreen?
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] raphifix:
I like it because it pops up over the lockscreen, but if you don't access it within the normal screen timeout (I think), it goes behind the lockscreen. The popup allows you to delete the message or do a quick or voice reply. You can have it set to mark the message as read if you close the popup, but if you press the back button on the Eris itself, handcent still shows the message as unread, which I find useful if I want to do something else but still have that reminder in my notification bar. I also have my Eris set up to go to the compose screen with a long click on the search button.

Sorry if this is confusing. It's just my personal preference. :)
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] Jp50:
downloaded this morning and really like it. Very flexible. anyone notice any performance or lag issues since install? mine seems to be solid so far.
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] mixedlemon:
That sounds really cool, i'll have to check it out. :)

BTW, are you guys loving this new update as much as I am? Custom sliders are awesome! :D
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] Jp50:
My battery seems to be draining a little quicker since last night. Anyone notice any battery performance changes since installing?