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[HTC Aria General] AzNnYx:
Did anyone else get a chance to play around with the captivate since it's release yesterday? I thought it felt a bit long in my hands (guess I'm too used to candy bar phones) and the touchwiz 3.0 UI seems a bit slow compared to my rooted Aria ;) The speed seemed okay for a 1000 mHz hummingbird but the AMOLED screen looked nice and bright (which phone doesn't, nowadays?) I didn't like how it vibrates whenever you type something compared to when the Aria vibrates while typing....it felt weird, haha.

Your thoughts on AT&T's newest addition to it's Android deck?

Maybe I'm just so in love with my Aria that nothing can replace it :D

Oh yeah, the power/lock button is on the right side which I think is whacksauce :p
[HTC Aria General] Kagoshema:
i have been like camping in the att store going in between the two

technically, the captivate is better

but the aria is so frakin fast that i dont think you will notice that its 400mhz slower for another year at least

i think the aria keyboard is a bit smaller, but still not too hard to type on.

really it comes down to the dev's and future android os releases

no i just have to decide which to get....

does the aria really shatter from a 2-3 foot fall?
[HTC Aria General] Shad0wguy:
No, I dropped mine from about 4 feet up, and aside from the back cover and battery coming apart the phone itself was rock solid. Didn't even scratch the screen.
[HTC Aria General] panda703:
i Dropped mine while i was talking on it so from like 5 feet and its fine no scratches either :)
[HTC Aria General] Kagoshema:
ok thats good to know

any pressing arguments in favor of the aria? cuz i think im leaning toward the captivate
[HTC Aria General] AzNnYx:
It's very snappy and quick, it's pocket-sized, it has an optical trackpad, it currently has more ROMs available and even a Froyo ROM in beta just waiting to be ported =]

You really gotta play with it to choose.
[HTC Aria General] klyon:
I checked them both out, it's a tough call.

The aria is actually a little snappier than the Captivate, but the Captivate's speed advantage will probably show with apps.

The Aria seems a little better in build quality, (but not much).

If you want a multimedia device (primarily) and don't mind the modern trend towards talking into large devices, get the Captivate.

If you like smaller phones (and/or want to save some money) get the Aria.
[HTC Aria General] jasonyump:
the advantage over the captivate is the future 3D gaming potential of it.

as far as overall speed of apps and such the aria is just as fast as the captivate, because the aria doesn't need a 1ghz cortex a8.

you'll want to keep in mind that the captivate has 16gb of internal storage(2gb of which you can install apps to currently with the 2.1 stock rom.) and you can add 32gb of sd storage. they are both capable of wireless N, although the aria doesnt support 5ghz. the captivate supports 720p recording and bluetooth 3.0

the aria has a trackpad and the arias smaller yet its not that much of a difference. you can still play games on the aria. the power buttons on the top of the phone. lol

other then that it just comes down to if you personally want a bigger screen/bigger phone, or if you are okay with the screen size of the aria. the aria is a great phone and perfect for the size of it, yet so is the captivate. its all your personal preference.

as far as rom development goes currently the aria has an advantage over the captivate due to it being easier to port roms and we're working on building some but it may change.

also the last thing you'll want to remember is price.
[HTC Aria General] discord2k:
My wife dropped hers from her lap exiting the vehicle and it came out with flying colors. Sturdy little machine.
[HTC Aria General] Kagoshema:
the captivate has amazing gpu preformance

but the aria is pretty good too, it has the same gpu as the big shiny evo right?

im just trying to decide which way to go with the screen size
[HTC Aria General] AzNnYx:
I prefer the more "rugged" matte backing of the aria versus the shiny smooth backplate of the captivate, but it does have a bit of a grip area so it's not to too smooth.

I'd say just hold out if you're having trouble deciding.. until AT&T releases an Android that you shouldn't have to compare with a mid-level Aria, but that's just my .02. I was constantly going back and forth between the two myself, but after toying with the captivate I've made my decision....the Aria is way cuter :cool:

Either way, we'll both have 2.2

/thumbsup
[HTC Aria General] Kagoshema:
well at most only only "holding out" for a couple more weeks and i dont think they have anymore androids coming out in that time

they are both great phones, but idk if i can manuver the captivate with one hand, and typing on the aria mildly annoys me sometimes
[HTC Aria General] BatteriesIncluded:
Analysis Paralysis! Your best bet is to step away and give yourself a break from it for a day or two. Either way I bet you will be happy.
[HTC Aria General] djameson:
Personally, I don't like the software that the Captivate comes with looks a little "iphoneish" for my taste, and you really can't touch Sense UI ;)
[HTC Aria General] SysAdmNj:
Have you tried swyping on the Aria?
[HTC Aria General] AzNnYx:
Sometimes it annoys me too when I'm swyping with one hand and it keeps inputting the wrong words :(

I usually use portrait mode but a slightly wider keyboard would be better
[HTC Aria General] SysAdmNj:
I dont usually swype with one hand, but I can :)
[HTC Aria General] Kagoshema:
your probably totally right, ill do that

@djameson

i tried out the captiavate with launcher pro and it works pretty good

but you still cant beat sense
[HTC Aria General] Shival:
I am wondering about the screen difference. Isn't AMOLED better?
[HTC Aria General] Kagoshema:
yup

but in the case of the captivate its also a really big screen, so the whole phone overall is pretty big
[HTC Aria General] AzNnYx:
I'd love to have that AMOLED on my aria :D

Sent from my HTC Liberty
[HTC Aria General] Mark@RichardsEmail.Net:
my wife has an Aria, and I have a Captivate. Both phones have a few issues, the captivate is soemtimes slow, but otherwise is just about perfect. My wife's Aria is nice, but we have a lot of trouble with the touch screen, it isn't calibrated properly, and makes it difficult to use. She is actually bugging me to return hers and get her a Captivate! Hopefully that helps you decide.

She likes the bigger screen, thinner profile, better keyboard and swype.
[HTC Aria General] matt_b:
a friend of mine bought an iphone 4 and traded it back in a week later for a captivate.

after messing with his phone for about 20 minutes (stock rom, not rooted), it seemed much more powerful (programs loaded quicker), but not as snappy with basic functioning (moving screen to screen, opening menus etc).

it wasn't slow, but it definitely wasn't as quick moving as the aria. the screen looked really good and the touch screen worked great. typing worked well.

i'm going to stick with my aria and maybe get a captivate once they get cheaper.
[HTC Aria General] robonoob:
My only issue so far was the screen shattering from falling out of my workshirt pocket. It was only about a foot and a half from the ground.:mad: However it was cheap and really easy to fix, now that there are cases that better protect it

is fantastic
[HTC Aria General] uberamd:
I had the Captivate and I returned it in favor of the Aria. The Captivate had a large screen but it actually felt a bit too large. The size of the Aria is perfect, and it makes the phone feel VERY sturdy in a nice tight compact device.

Another benefit to the Aria over the Captivate is Sense UI. I absolutely LOVE Sense UI. TouchWiz (which the Captivate runs) is a joke. It is basically an attempt to be an iPhone, which I don't want as I switched from the iPhone.

Plus Samsung has a terrible track record with updates. The GPS on the Captivate is total fail. It refuses to get any position whether it be via GPS or aGPS unless you're in an open parking lot standing still. No fix from Samsung yet, which is unacceptable.
[HTC Aria General] lasimo0:
My girlfriend has the Aria and I have the Captivate. I have to say that they're both great phones. Both extremely snappy, attractive designs, made by top-notch manufacturers....the list goes on.

I posted to disagree with some others saying that the Aria has more potential for ROM upgradability. The Captivate (Galaxy S) is Samsung's flagship phone right now and the market penetration on these things is going to go through the roof. I already know 5 other people that have one as opposed to the 1 person I know with an Aria.

Market penetration = more hacking interest = more ROM selection. I think we're going to see a LOT out of the i9000 forums in the coming months.

That's my $0.02.
[HTC Aria General] msgnyc:
Not outside in direct sunlight ;)

The Galaxy S has a Super AMOLED screen tho and it is MUCH better then the typical AMOLED screen in direct sunlight, but is still slightly edged out by LCDs still.

In direct sunlight LCD>SAMOLED>AMOLED

not in direct sunlight however SAMOLED>AMOLED>LCD
[HTC Aria General] DPLOY:
The Aria supports FM Radio directly (important for me) and I understand the Samsung does not.

ALSO, the nav button on the bottom of the Aria is great.
[HTC Aria General] faceless808:
I owned the Aria for 3 weeks, switched it for the captivate and would make that choice again everytime.

I liked the Aria alot. But the screen is real small and I also had issues with the response of the touch.. The interface is quick on the Aria but when trying to run anything that would put stress on the phone it most of the time choked and lagged.

Sense is way better than touchwiz by far.. but I prefer lancher pro plus* over both..

I have also seen 3 Arias brought in for cracked screens.. They are not that sturdy.. but I feel if I drop the captivate it will too crack.

I noticed that call quality is excellent on the captivate.. There was a lot of noise on the Aria, with my wife's and Mine before we exchanged.. Others have complained about the same problem.

I suggest not making the decision based on sense or touchwiz..

Try making the decision on where you want a smaller phone or a bigger one.

If you feel the screen is too small you will always be bugged by it...

If your going to do any multimedia (music player is much better, 720P video playback looks AMAZING, Pic gallery is much better, and screen is bigger) then the Aria is not the right choice
[HTC Aria General] joshua54:
As far as cracking..it seems it all depends on how it hits...i dropped mine from about a foot and it on the top right corner where it says att..it hit kind of at an angle to where the back cover popped off and the glass hit and shatered..i thought it was more protected than that but its all good now got a replacement and talked them into sending me a free case!
[HTC Aria General] telemike:
I just cannot decide between the two. I love the HTC Sense UI and the optical trackball along with the pocketability but for a little more you get 16GB storage and a 4" AMOLED screen with the Samsung. The Samsung does have the crappy Touchwiz though. Too bad there's not a Sense lookalike launcher that can be put on the Samsung.
[HTC Aria General] Sirfearoth:
My captivate is sitting in its box until cyanogenmod drops, and using my g1 until then. If you want a good all around phone go with the aria. If you want a 700hp gasoline engine that was sent with a full tank of oil&water mixed, go the captivate.
[HTC Aria General] compuguy1088:
How is the Aria compared to the HTC Magic (32A)?
[HTC Aria General] andoh:
The Aria or the Capivate? That is the question.

The question really comes down to, what do YOU need your phone to do?

The Aria

Do you want a light weight phone?

Do you want a phone that you can easily use one handed?

Do you want a phone that is very responsive and snappy?

Do you like cyanogen?

Do you like the idea of a phone with a high friction backing so you never drop it?

The Captivate

Do you want a media powerhouse?

Do you want a loud speaker phone?

Do you want flash 10.1 support?

Are you willing to wait for cyanogen?

How do you feel about a phone that has some amazing internet components, but a very cheap exterior?

Do you have sausage fingers?

So what does it all boil down to? The aria is snappy, but don't expect it to do intensive apps. It can do anything text based. It will be an awesome at emails, texts, it has great call quality. It can play video, but you do need to optimize the video for its resolution, hand brake will become your friend. The aria does an awesome job with Pandora on HQ, makes a great mp3 player. It does need a good sd card if you plan on having a lot of music though. Speaker phone lacks volume, hard to hear when driving.

The captivate on the other hand, you can drop almost any video file onto the internet 16gb sd card. Any resolution is fine. The screen is gorgeous. Call quality is great, speaker phone is great. Froyo is out for captivate, but you need to be android savy to install the rom. The phone supports flash 10.1, you can view youtube.com, no apps needed. The phone crushes video games, psx emulating. I highly recommend krazy kart racers, and angry birds.

Do you want an easy to use, small easy to pocket phone.

Or do you want a Media power house?

That is the question. I own both models, I ended up giving my Aria to the wife, if you have any questions send them my way, pm'ing me is great I would be happy to help.
[HTC Aria General] andoh:
The size is definitely a major point. Touchwiz is a good UI, I can understand if you look down on it because it is iphone like, but your comment sounds fanboyish. IT is a solid UI, The sense UI is of high quality in my opinion, but I do know a few people that don't like it.

Gps issues have been mostly resolved with 2.2. Sammy has taken their time with updates, that is for sure, but we do have 2.2 for sammy now, from sammy, and cyanogen on the way.

Also I would like to mention, the screen on the Captivate is far more scratch and impact resistant. The Aria has a breakable screen. However, the Aria is also better built, very study and solid. Very little empty space on the inside. The captivate has some empty space and uses some inferior materials like metal for the casing.
[HTC Aria General] matt_b:
easily the most helpful post in this thread, thank you.

i've had an aria since launch and have loved it, but i'm also a gadget nut and have been interested in the captivate since i read about it. my phone line is eligible for an upgrade through at&t so i figured why the heck not! once i get it i'll provide some feedback here.
[HTC Aria General] erezak:
For me, one of the main issues is a big screen - I use my phone as a book reader (as well as other functions), so I went with Captivate.
[HTC Aria General] topshelf95:
I have both the captivate and the aria. The aria is running cyanogenmod6, which is awesome and gives it quite a performance boost. While cyanogenmod is not out for the captivate, I am running the latest release of cognition 2.2 Froyo which is pretty awesome in its own right. Coming from a totally unbiased point of view, the aria is a great little phone and will do alot of the things the captivate will, but quite frankly there is no comparison in performance. The hardware on the captivate is vastly superior. Even not having cyanogenmod, browser speeds are literally more than twice as fast, as is pretty much everything else. It will double the score of the aria in any benchmark test, linpack, quadrant, etc. and while I realize there are variations between benchmark tests and real life use, it does not take a genius to see the aria running frame rates around 7-12 and stuttering, and then seeing the captivate running 50 frames per second and being buttery smooth.

Also, not only is the screen a fair amount larger, which can be a matter of opinion, but one that I prefer, I believe the resolution is higher on the captivate, because the screen seems less grainy. Even just the inch or so difference in screen size makes reading any webpage way less stressful on the eyes. Something to take into consideration because when you have a phone that is capable of doing so much, as these phones are, you will spend more time than you think looking at the screen.

Everything is just faster and I can only imagine it will be that much better when Cyanogen comes out for the captivate. All that being said however, the Aria is still a very competent, stout little phone and I will say that the HTC has a more "premium" feel to it in the hand, but I'm not buying to phone because of the way it feels. There is nothing wrong with the build quality of the Captivate, and thats coming from someone who is not easy on their equipment.
[HTC Aria General] eortizr:
I also have both (Aria and Vibrant) and I feel the same way... the Aria is a nice phone... but the Vibrant is just awesome (minus the GPS)
[HTC Aria General] telemike:
Right now on Amazon wireless, the Aria is $100 cheaper than the Captivate and right now I am cash strapped. Went to Best Buy to get a feel for size and the Aria feels "just right" in my hand. The big 4" phones are like calculators and just feel big.

I'll probably get an Aria or the new Motorola flipside or Bravo when I have the cash
[HTC Aria General] erezak:
It is a good phone, but with the Captivate you get the extra "mini tablet" feel.
[HTC Aria General] Maroon Mushroom:
Ok, first off, you're asking the ARIA forums, just what kind of answers do you expect?

Anyway, I've owned both of them. Bought my captivate on release but ran into quite a few problems. The entire device was so gimped from AT&T / Samsung, it was really pathetic. Touchwiz is the worst thing ever created for any android phone. Text messages weren't sending as reliably as my Aria, and it didn't get quite as many bars as my aria. The Aria also does a much better job sitting in my pocket, haha... I need a cell phone, not a tablet with a built in phone. The captivate had a killer 720p video recorder though
[HTC Aria General] wtaggin:
The Aria was my first phone running the Android system. I love the phone overall. I did like how small it was, until I got my Captivate. To me, size all matters on the user. What are you going to use it for? How big are your hands, fingers? You'll never get a 100% factual answer, as it is all opinions.

The Aria feels awesome. It is a bit heavier, or at least feels it, than my captivate and has a nice "smooth" back on it.

Response on touch screen is awesome, as well.

The camera takes good pictures.

The audio, was average. I did have some issues hearing people on the phone, and realized that I had to put phone speaker a certain way to get the most out of it.

I was not impressed with the speaker phone/audio quality of the outter speaker. It was very quiet, IMO.

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The Captivate, well, what can I say, I am in love.

I have played with everything from a Droid to a Droid X, and I can say that the Captivate's screen blows all of these out of the water. I am a web developer and view clients websites/graphics on the phone on a regular basis. Needless to say, the colors are true. Not bashing on any of the Android phone's display, but if you put the Captivate up against any of them, as of now, it is crystal clear.

The audio on the Captivate is a huge step up from the Aria. It is loud, and I rarely have to turn the Media Volume all the way up. I just rooted my Captivate today and upgraded to 2.2, and I have fallen even more in love with it.

The camera on the Captivate is good as well. I love the panoramic option, which I didn't even realize came with the Captivate. I am sure there are ways of getting this on an Aria, as well, because it just seems to be software over actual camera capabilities, so don't quote me on that.

720p recording works fantastic. Super clean video. TV-Out option is something I have not tried yet, but wouldn't expect it to have any errors.

The only issue I have had with my Captivate is the GPS, which a lot of people are experiencing.

I had no major issues with the Aria except the size. I did use a different Mini-USB charger to charge the Aria, and the phone would go crazy (as if I were touching the screen in completely different spots) but I believe this was the actual charger, rather than the phone, because my girlfriend (new owner of the Aria) has not experienced this.

I hope this can help!

I haven't dropped my phone yet, so I cannot judge the sturdiness of either.
[HTC Aria General] maevro:
I used to be a rep for HTC and Samsung. I chose the Aria because I find HTC to make far superior housing. Samsungs tend to have issues after a while too.

Personally im happy with the screen size of the Aria. Years of 2.8" HTC WinMo screens makes the Aria large to me. I personally have no interest in gaming.

Its all choice and opinion. Neither blow one away.
[HTC Aria General] jahnile:
To me you cannot compare the two, they are two different phone, specs wise. The Aria is a mid-range android phone where as the Captivate is on the high end, this is like apples and oranges...
[HTC Aria General] dexmix:
I needed an AT&T - android - with GPS.

This was the Aria, and i'm pumped that everything works great.

Sense UI and the buttery smooth response was also a plus for me.

And i feel bad for all the poor saps still complaining about not having a real GPS fix.
[HTC Aria General] superman2112ms:
Metal Casing

I would think Metal would be better than plastic. What am I missing?
[HTC Aria General] superman2112ms:
Htc Aria

I have the HTC Aria. Got it last Friday. Free phone friday @ Best Buy. I spent a fair amount of time on here learning about the Captivate. That was going to be my choice. However I learned it is a little harder for the Android noob to deal with mods.At least that is my impression. When my LG Incite dropped and now has battery issues and reading the memory card issues It was time. However no Money right now so I got the Aria. Got home and started researching it. I found the Pulled HTC sync software that allows sideloading, and all the other threads for MODS with instructions. The Aria was easy for me to root and install the Liberated ROM. I also after a few days found how to fix my a2sd issue. If you are a N00b I think the Aria is a safer phone to MOD. Samsung Kies sounds like it does not work well with US phones. I Like it a lot. I wonder if the more experianced crew around here would agree about the difficultylevel I am refering to. With my winmo 6.1 phone I was afraid to even try. SO thanks to all the info for allowing me to keep learning and finanly get the courage to say WTF lets give it a try
[HTC Aria General] delutedsoul23:
I went from the aria to the captivate....the aria is a great starter phone but the captivate is fantastic...having both phone i woukd deffinetly say the captivate is the choice to make...although htc is a better maker of phones. Well thats just my opinion
[HTC Aria General] johdaxx:
I like the Aria's size as an every day, but I'm considering a Captivate or a Streak as a couch-surfing / fun / movie watching / hacking thing I don't carry with me all the time. One could probably get an iPad SIM and give it basic data capability without all the phone hassle.
[HTC Aria General] telemike:
I think I really want the Aria but am worried that the glass is fragile. I hear reports that it cannot take any impacts. Maybe a good rubber snap case might help?

I can get an Aria for Free from letstalk.com if I re-up with ATT. Then I can get a 16GB SD card for under $40.