[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Snow_fox:
Look I'm a computer science major and informational privacy being violated freaks me the **** out more than anyone. But, let me point out a few things.

A. I'm not worried about big brother looking over my shoulder there are at least 3 companies that already have access to my information *BEFORE* big brother would even touch it.

B. Knowing how an internet connection works... Let me tell you this.. You connect through a provider be it at&t or verizon or some local jo-blow provider. There is no reason they wouldn't have access to your information as well.. easy as snagging it passing through there server.

C. I have come to accept the fact google stores every thing that goes through their email service indefinitely. I do not *like* this but, I *accept* it. Why?

Well gee... at&t provide's iphone. Apple retains so much control over their products is rediculous. If apple wanted the information at&t isn't going to deny them.

I am not even taking into account how large the internet is and what *really* goes on.

if you are that worried... I would suggest unplugging your laptop/computer and canceling phone service.

I hate that people have that much potential and I think there is a special place in hell for the patriot act.

Before long cloud computing is going to evolve again. It is becoming more and more powerful in ways I never even dreamed of when I first heard the term. I thought it was lame at best but, as its potental grows I become more and more excited.

The idea that there is a "digital soul" which can power my devices is becoming more and more interesting. The ability to make an update and have it spread across my networked devices almost instantaneously is very interesting.

If I worked for a company I would definitely want to have a company server handling this for business devices not google.

However, for what it is worth I have no reservations about googling haircut, bomb, explosion, wkuk I want to kill the president of the united states(great video), Crystal Methylampehatmine, Heroine, Cocaine, allah, or V for Vendetta. After all People should not be afraid of their governments, governments should be afraid of theirpeople

I have a .38 Special for safety.

I want an Android phone for other reasons. (partly because balancing a job/school/and everything else in life is easier with a pda.)

However, your logic astounds me with your last statement.

As far as I'm concerned google has *no* reason to add anything more than they already have in there. It already updates contacts/email goes through gmail, and anything that is not handled through gmail such as sms and calls would be small enough that anytime it "backsup" contacts it could just be added in.

Who cares what gps you use? The fact is at&t or whoever your provider is can triangulate the signal. Your screwed.

And to be honest.. as much as your say it is "foolish" and "niave" and all that crap.. The fact is this. I *KNOW* google has horrible privacy problems. I *don't know* what problems I may encounter when I go with anyone else.

You know.. I am constantly fluctuating in my opinion of you.. On one hand I like that people are aware/concerned about privacy...

On the other hand... of all the phones you pick I am astounded you come here and worry this much about the phone and still are considering getting one. The fact is *if* they are collecting information there is very little you can do about it.. Because they would have known form the beginning it is open source and people are "peeking" at their code.

Who knows? maybe google will start with android and use it as a business model.. "You can see how we operate".

Understand the irony of what your doing.

Coming into a forum heavily populated by android users and people who code for android.

People who know nothing about coding but, are willing to experiment with the work of those that do.

While these forums are for learning, you have to understand the irony of "Critical" information being backed up by google servers then saying you want the best of both worlds.. Privacy and the latest and greatest superphone which in theory makes it no problem for someone in googles position to grab personal information. Naturally people are going to nit-pick your logic.

Your asking weighty questions.. but, welcome to the world of open source.

In the open source world.. there is ultimately a "do it yourself, and share with us" mentality.

Want to find out about privacy? learn what may violate it.. and look in android os's.

The general idea behind open source is I want something, I make it and then.. if other people want it, they are welcomed to it.

While this does not always pan out, the mentality of open source *is* we all put forth effort to create a better product.

I don't care if your 52, 5, or 500. Your not too old to learn to program.