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[Galaxy S I9000 General] Davith:
At first, I was very happy with the device since it was new and all. Then after a month or two I got frustrated because of the lag and lack of responsiveness. I was seriously considering swapping it for a HD or Desire Z. But then came 2.2.1. and Hardcore Speedmod's kernel which is constanly improving (plus loads of alternatives like Voodoo, Darkyy and Doc's ROM, etc.).

Now I can say that I am more than happy with my phone. I wouldn't swap it for anything, not even a Nexus S (well maybe for a dual core phone if given the opportunity :p). It's become very very fast. No lag and everything is perfectly stable. I never get any FCs.

I agree that a stock SGS is a little disappointing. But tweak it and install the (almost) necessary kernels/ROMs and you get a very powerful beast. It all depends whether you're willing to learn how to do it. If not, then you're probably better off using another device.

PS: I never use GPS so that's a non-issue for me. But I can understand why people would get frustrated about it since no tweaks can really make it 100% accurate. It's just not as good as other phones' GPS. It probably is hardware related, at least for the first models.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] betoNL:
First of all, you have no idea how many of the millions of SGS users are satisfied or not with the gps performance.

First of all, a satisfied user hardly talks about it, while an unsatisfied user will immediatly ring all bells. That's human nature

Many of the complainers dont even know the difference between offboard (for instance Google navigation) and onboard (iGo, Tomtom, navigon etc.) gps software.

My sgs runs iGo 8.4 (one of the best domestic nav apps) flawlessly without the need of a-gps or any other "assist" and since the arrival of froyo 2.2 and 2.2.1, I dont even use my external gps receiver any longer, like in my first gps video (on my signature)

The internal gps chipset on my sgs ( froyo 2.2.1 JS3 firmware) is performing better than my wife's Desire HD and way better than my lost Nokia 5800 or my neighbour's i-Phone. And I tested everything myself, with different nav apps. so my conclusions are not based on what one or more trolls are saying.

But then AGAIN.....why am I wasting my time on another typical troll thread??? :D
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Davith:
True that people who have a working GPS just won't say it.

But then again, saying that the SGS's GPS is working flawlessly on all devices is just lying to yourself. If that was the case, you wouldn't be seeing all these threads about 'GPS fixes' and GPS issues here on XDA. Hell, just browsing on the internet for feedbacks and you'll most likely find users complaining about GPS. Or just have a look on firmware threads and you'll see the usual question 'Is GPS improved?'. Even check tech-website and you'll maybe even find some news about it.

You say I don't know how many are or are not satisfied about the GPS. Well, you don't know either, do you? Seeing as how a lot of people are complaining about it here or more generally on the internet is proof enough that at least a lot of people are having issues with their GPS, even though it's possible a majority are not having those.

I love the SGS but I'm not a fanboy enough to say that there is no GPS issue with our device.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] t1mman:
This is the main point here...

But at least, the OP did something about it and didn't just wine about it...

About the GPS and Lag issue, I don't know how many users had smartphone before or to what it is compared, but I used to have a HTC Vogue, I've ran WinMo 6.1 and 6.5 and it was "OK", but it got realy interesting when I got Android running on it. But it wasn't the forth or the speed of the SGS when it was stock à 2.1... With Darky's rom it's not even comparable!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] betoNL:
Your conclusions about sgs,s gps is based on other user's feedbacks and lousy google navigation screenshots .

My conclusions are based on my own experience not just with my own sgs, but on tons of users that I helped (mostly with success) to solve their gps probs.

To make a long story short imho:

- A-gps is not really good implemented on many GOOGLE Devices ( notjust samsung's)

- Google navigation is not really reliable and not working properly in many regions.

-The best way to test the capabilities of the internal Gps chipset, is with a-gps off and using (in case of car gps navigation) a well-known onboard gps program with an up-to-date map.

Fact: Eventhough the internal gps chipset of the sgs is not as good as a sirfstar3 chipset,

it.is good enough .

And its performance only got better with the arrival of the 2.2.1 firmwares

The big question is: Why almost all high-end (and very expensive) smartphones, are just not equipped with sirfstar3 chipsets like the old smartphones were and many of the popular standalone gps devices still are?

Furthermore, I know for a fact that many gps problems are user-related. I have been helping many users with their gps probs in many other forums with this and other devices..

Just like you see users getting addicted to flashing, you see others getting addicted to whining, the real trolls...

By the way, which "tech-website" you are talking about? And which smartphones got better gps performance than the sgs, as you wrote?

Just curious......
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Davith:
http://www.androidcentral.com/quick-fix-gps-issues-your-new-samsung-galaxy-s-series-phone

http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/samsung-galaxy-s-gps-gate-two-problems-not-one-and-what-to-do/

Two among others. There are loads more if you Google 'GPS' and 'Galaxy'. That for me is proof enough that the GPS is not performing as it should at least for some people. Type 'GPS' and any other devices and you won't find the same results (though of course there will be some people also having issues, but not nearly as much).

As for GPS comparisons, I used to have an HTC Hero that performed better. I also have a few friend that have HTC Desires and locktime and accuracy is just much better. So yeah, you could argue that it's only my phone and that somehow I'm doing it wrong, but reading all this feedbacks convinced me that I'm just not the only one.

Still, it's not a deal breaker for me. I love my Galaxy.:o
[Galaxy S I9000 General] t1mman:
You have to add the number of item sold in the equation. I'm pretty sure none of the other devices has sold as much as the SGS...

As for the "old gps", let me put these in:

This is a track made with an old HTC Vogue:

http://sportypal.com/Workouts/Embed/674279?key=883a349c32ca197e7572199ed1e8a5875fe467c1&ms=0

This one made with SGS:

http://sportypal.com/Workouts/Embed/894790?key=9ccb8f01370cab7983406267270cae6288d15d8c&ms=0

while it was said that GPS in googlemaps tend not to be acurate, we can clearly see it on those.

For me, they are equivalent and even more, the tracks on SGS are more "fluid", less "crooked" than the old Vogue.

So, as a training tool, SGS would be more accurate to keep track of speed and pace. This being with Darky's rom.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dakine:
I bought the SGS as soon as it hit the shelves in Europe and lets just say its been interesting owning it. Overall I'm not really satisfied with the product. A lot of that is Samsung's fault in that they basically released a device that had not been properly tested. This was obviously done in order to beat the Iphone 4 launch. Besides that I'm not that impressed with Android itself. I expected a more polished and stable OS. Android kind of feels like a mixed bag of apps with little uniformity and often counter intuitive GUIs. The market is disappointing with not nearly enough quality apps. I could forgive all that if things just worked but they don't. Its just way too common to see apps force close, buttons getting stuck on or off and other weird behavior that just makes the OS seem more like beta software rather than the 2.2 we are on. The elephant in the room of course is IOS4 and while I hate Apple's attitude there are still some things that they do better than the competition. I'd like to see Google concentrate on stability and uniformity and it looks like they might be doing just that with Honeycomb.

But to stay on topic: Yes the GPS works ok now and the lag is mostly fixed but I myself would not buy another phone that relies on Samsung software in any way shape or form. I think the SGS can be made into a nice device with the help of the Devs on this forum but its more trouble than it's worth when you could just choose something that works out of the box. I can see how people could either love or hate this phone and I'm optimistic about Honeycomb although I'm not sure the sgs will have the specs to run it once the phone version of the OS is released.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] betoNL:
I found another version of iGo (iGo MyWay 8.4.2) that is running even smoother than the iGo Motonav, on my sgs

Feels good to be one of the lucky ones with a "blessed" sgs ,that runs all gps porgrams I tested so far (iGo, Sygic, Navigon) flawlessly

And I can copy and paste tons of links of user complaining about gps problems with almost every brand out there

I even found tons of topics of users saying they are satisfied with the gps performance...

But...what's the point really?

Furthermore almost any android device works great with EXTERNAL gps devices (see my first video).

With the right bluetooth gps software and allowing "mock location" in settings

you can run almost any gps program.

Some external gps bluetooth devices cost around 20 - 30 euros and are equipped with sirfstarIII chipsets or better...(like mine- see first video)

But the whiners still prefer to keep on whining.....
[Galaxy S I9000 General] bakalamaka:
Well, I was as well playing with the thought of giving my SGS back, but after I have installed the leaked firmware the things have drastically improved so I just decided to bite the bullet. Still not happy with some shortcomings of Samsung in particular and Android in general, but this is still the best phone I would buy. I'd like to have an iPhone, as I am a happy Mac user, but Apple has sadly some intolerable conditions on that account and SGS is really the best Android around.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
you people should really try to use a windows phone, and you'll come back running to android right away....
[Galaxy S I9000 General] INeedYourHelp:
***rant***

Everyone has their own personal tastes and likes, so saying "i like this phone more then that phone" is expected, but wtf is the point in this thread?

Someone returns their phone because they don't like it and makes a thread about it? LOL. It's good to warn people of crappy phones, but it's clearly obvious that MANY people are enjoying their SGS.

Imagine if everyone who returns their phone made a thread...... Guess what, even the almighty made-by-God iphone 4 gets returned occasionally.

If you don't like the SGS, then why post here? Go to your phone's forum and post there.

***end rant***
[Galaxy S I9000 General] veej:
What's wrong with WM? I know a lot of people hate it but for me the HD2 with all the tweaks provided on this forum is still the best phone that I have. It suits all my need the best and is still running strong.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AshMa:
Some of you guys here sound just like the guys over on macrumors.com. Seriously, you can invent an excuse for every issue someone else has with the device of your choice, but that doesn’t take away from the issue the other person has. Grow up! This is a device that has a shelf life of 12 to 24 months if not less.

You do not own stock in Samsung and your choice in phone does not reflect on you as a person. But your words and attitude do reflect on you as a person. ANYONE has the right to post here about what they don’t like, just as much as someone posting what they do like. I am grateful to read the reasons why someone bought and returned/sold the SGS. As a buyer, I want to know the good and the bad and if I don’t agree with something, no hard feelings or getting emotional over a device.

To say that it’s too much to ask for a device to just work right out of the box is too much to ask??? Are you kidding me?!?!?! I drive sports cars because I enjoy them and although there are a number of things one can do to customize the type of cars I drive; I left the dealer lot, didn’t change a thing for well over 6 months and the car just worked as it was made to and so should ANY phone!!!!!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] OrionTC:
the phone has been released for around 1 month in europe and a matter of days in the US under the different brandings.

the phone has huge potential with the screen/cpu/gpu i just hope the little problems can be ironed out by samsung or by the froyo update. time will tell.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AshMa:
This doesn't make much sense to me. I've been using WinMo since the beginning of it and YES it has major issues and requires a lot of work to get things right (spent many long hours on my HD2). However, the iPhone out of the box is missing a lot of great features, but almost all the features it does have, just work.

And to suggest that the OP should go with a dumbphone, almost sounds like you're saying that he isn't intelligent enough to understand the device you so happen to own and love and that he had not so flattering words about.

To all those who say they have no problems, does this mean the above comment it not an honest one? Can we all agree that just because one person doesn't have a problem, doesn't mean it's the same for everyone else. Different phone but this is just the same as the Evo and iPhone forums......

I too am here but I no longer have the time to spend the insane hours I spent tweaking my HD2 from the info and apps found on this site.

So Why am I here? Because getting pre-purchase info from people who know how to use a device inside out, has always been the best source of info aside from trying it out myself. Furthermore, I would like to own a device that just works as it should, right out of the box. And then if and when I choose to; I can come to a site like this and choose to to customize different things as I see fit to do rather than having to do so from day one in order to get things working as they should have from day zero.

If the SGS is a Mercedes-Benz SL63 AMG, should some of us not own it because we expect to be able to just get into it, start the engine and drive to point b from point a?! Should we then choose a Honda because we don't want to have to work on our AMG engines rather than just enjoy driving them?!

Do you guys honestly believe that Samsung made the Galaxy so that tech geeks and hackers could tweak the heck out of it? This is a mass market phone and it was not made for the members of a site like this. It was made for the masses, most of whom will never visit a site like this; they will be too busy enjoying the phone right out of the box, the way Samsung has intended it to be. This is not a Nexus 1!

This is a comment I agree with because it's pretty much what I did do.

Sorry but I would very much like to know the reasons why someone hates a device as much as I want to know why someone else loves it. So would you recommend going to an iPhone forum to learn the detailed reasons as to why someone doesn't like the Samsung? That makes a lot of sense?!

If you love what you love then there is no need to worry about what others think of it. You've made up your mind and thats great. But some of us are still trying to make up are minds and we want to hear ALL the info; good AND bad. If you don't want to keep reading something; then just skip it.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Tachikoma_kun:
Right before I leave for the air show, can people please post what they want me to check in my video.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Et3rnal:
I dont hav these prbs at all!!!

only the signal bar things and its only when the coverage not good n its not that bad like iphone (i dont loss it all)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Beards:
Well I have had ...and to a degree still have issues with the phone (can't get DLNA to work successfully, GPS has been problematic from the start, Email as you say slow to gather messages, no folders for Yahoo, tried Yahoo Mail app but locks out, Layer would not finish loading, and other small, minor but irritating quirks popping up without warning) but I'm a true believer in when you see a glass that is half empty by positive thinking it soon becomes half full.

I never give in to a problem, in quite the reverse I take it as a challenge and use it as a tool to better my understanding.

Okay, I'm 57 and spend more time in theatre these days than I really should but I enjoy being at the workface with my surgery team.

Here a group of similar minded folk but all with different backgrounds come together to sort out a problem of someone laying on the table waiting for us to fix....... Now does that remind you of somewhere else?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Intratech:
Regarding Layar not finishing loading, I just installed Layar from the Market and now all is well.:)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
that is indeed the fun of owning a "Smart"-phone, you spend more time using your own smarts to get the phone working the way you want, then enjoying the phone, it's the best hobby+useful gadget all in one :)

this is another reason why i switched, i got bored of Windows phones, there is nothing new to fix LOL :D

maybe i'm a machorchist and now i'm trying to do it all over again with Android, LOL :D
[Galaxy S I9000 General] appelflap:
Not had these problems yet, but isn't it fair to believe that Samsung will address these issues in the near future? From what I have read they have huge ambitions with the Galaxy S and all those USA variants. I don't think they will let those (new device) issues interfere with these plans.

You see this kind of problems with new devices very much in the gadget/pda/phone market. I don't know why, but I guess companies are trying to outbrave each other in getting a dominant part of the market.

Why I'm so naive? :) I just can't believe a company like Samsung produces a phone with these kind of basic faults.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] bookwormat:
@Tachikoma_kun

Prior to making the video, open a lot of different apps (including contacts, market, browser etc). Then wait for one hour. Then, in your video, open a lot of apps again, including at least one that you did not open before.

Please be sure you do not have a task killer installed, and check that you open enough apps to get the free memory under 50mb. Then when you switch between applications you should get the black screens and timeouts.

Please also run the free application "Benchmark" that you'll find in the market, and post the results. The results for "File System" are interesting.

Thank you!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
:eek: there you go, that in itself it would have killed a Windows phone already 5 minutes into it, you don't even need to wait an hour. LOL :D

no way i'm keeping all those things open when i'm not using it, being under the influence of Microsoft for 20+ years you get a side effect of automatically closing all the stuff you don't use, else your PC will go Kaboom! :p
[Galaxy S I9000 General] cheetah2k:
Just reading the OP's reasons for selling, I'm 36, and I still love tinkering with phones :)

Not a valid reason
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kcharng:
If I have that many problem with my galaxy s I would sell mine too. ;)

Luckily my galaxy s is working very well
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Harts@J:
I'm older than you (an old grumpy man) and I'll do the same all over again. If I like to use the phone (not smart one), I'll use my Nokia 6310i. It is nearly 10 years old, but it works as a phone, you can call and you can answer, nothing else, ok SMS, too. Battery lasts weeks without charging.

When I bought my first Pocket PC in the 1990's, I'll came familiar with many kind of problems and those continue for ever with every new generation of the "smarter" pocket computers (or smartphones in these days). There will never be a perfect "smart"phone. Keep us playing with our toys, men are always boys. :D
[Galaxy S I9000 General] cheetah2k:
hehehehe :p, my first pocket PC was a HP 5450... and ever since then I have been in the search for the "perfect" smart phone/pda.

Agreed, I also haven't found one yet (but the SGS is close) :D
[Galaxy S I9000 General] appelflap:
Agree! In fact I would sell my phone immediately if it doesn't have all those shortcommings, imperfections and problems :D
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dakine:
So besides here how many other places did you start the exact same thread?!

Hey Steve, quit trolling in the Samsung forum! You have bumpers to hand out! :P
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tameracingdriver:
So because someone didnt get on with their purchase, a very expensive piece of electronics, because it didn't work as expected out of the box, they are a troll? :confused:

I must be one of the few people who can see where he is coming from.

I am happy with mine now, but I certainly was not with the stock firmware and such like, so buggy it was unbelievable. I know new stuff can have teething problems, but it was fair to say in my case, it had some SEVERE teething problems, despite the handset itself being in perfect working order. Personally, after the first week, the only things I liked about it were the screen and the swype keyboard, the rest was junk.

Its taken me hours of work to get it to what the phone really should have been like in the first place, and now its superb, but I can see why some people don't want to spend hours fixing things that should work in the first place (I'm a techie so its irritating to me even more, albeit somewhat second nature).

Basically, if you want something that just works, then there's only one choice in town for me, and thats the iphone. Say what you like about them, but they do have a good, stable, if somewhat restricted user experience, but lets face it, they do everything that 99% of the population would ever need or want to do with a phone.

I don't get the fanboyism associated with stuff like phones. They are a means to an end. I changed from the iphone because I wanted a change, and boy did I get a change! Now I prefer it, but it wasn't always that way. But I still like the iphone a lot, and will certainly reconsider it once more when my contract is up.

Good luck OP with whatever you choose next.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dakine:
It was a joke. But really who goes and starts the exact same thread on different forums stating how the product sucks and how he's so happy to be rid of it. It's a little overly dramatic if you ask me.

Here's a tip: don't become an early adopter of anything because it's always going to have some issues. If they don't get it fixed soon then you start threads like this but for now it just sounds like trolling.

goodbye galaxy s i9000 on hardwarezone

goodbye galaxy s i9000 on samsunggalaxysforum
[Galaxy S I9000 General] INeedYourHelp:
LOL, thanks for posting those. Really funny.

I shall quote "kennyboy" from hardwarezone.com:

http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showpost.php?p=47288089&postcount=2

Even a moderator, "Vulpix" goes on the offensive:

http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showpost.php?p=47292434&postcount=15
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Beards:
Is this a competition now... :D

As mentioned earlier ~ I'm 57 and in 1984 I purchased my first PDA the PSION Organizer One, which proclaimed to be the "world's first pocket computer".

All with 4k ROM (excluding Datapak's) and 2k RAM.

It was a joy learning it's weird but wonderful ways... I've never looked back since on this technology regardless how good/bad they have been... and boy have I had a few lemon's en route. :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] sammy555:
I do believe there are better options than sgs out of the box,IF3 firmware was quite bad with its lag and gps issues.However flash to ig5 and install launcher pro and the phone is awesome with all problems fixed.Icing on the cake install custom rom with lag fix and it flies-by far the fastest phone out there,and it will only get faster with froyo. This combined with the bast in class display and gpu that is out benching others by a factor of 2-4make this phone a winner.Gps really is spot on for me with these newer firmwares too which is nice.