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[Android Apps and Games] madmack:
I added some reinforcers in this one to make sure "other" doesn't get triggered when an sms is there.

Please try that one instead and report back.
[Android Apps and Games] dipxda:
I still get the red "other" icon when receivin SMS. I switched back from Handcent ot the standard SMS application to make sure that this isn't the reason, but also with the standadr SMS application I get the red "other" icon.
[Android Apps and Games] evilhunter101:
The popups seem to be relatively instant or maybe a second late and the app is delaying properly so im not sure what the problem could be. I just tried it again and still the same issue it works the first time but not when the second message comes in.

It doesn't matter to me since I don't use the popups I was just trying to test it since noone had responded at the time. Stock 2.1
[Android Apps and Games] dipxda:
I tested it now a lot but for all SMS I got only the red "other" icon on my Galaxy S. I tried the exactly same settings on my son's Galaxy Spica and there I get the green SMS icon. Very strange! I have no idea why the phones behave differently. And I am sure that I got once the green icon on my Galaxy S too, but this was the first and only time.

One (last) word to the behavior of the Home button. You mentioned that "Android does not allow you to manipulate or listen on the "Home" button. It is a system wide call, and its used to bring you out of any application into the home screen." But when I don't have activated NoLED and an SMS is received, the Handcent popup appears, is then covered by the lock screen and finally the screen gets black. When I then press the Home button the lock screen appears and when I then remove the lock screen (I use the gesture lock screen) the Handcent popup windows is still shown. That means without NoLED the Home button does NOT cancel the Handcent popup window, only with activated NoLED it does. It seems that the Handcent application is able to avoid that the Home button brings you to the home screen. So maybe this is also possible with NoLED?
[Android Apps and Games] madmack:
When you have an app displaying its content on your screen and you press the home button, I bet you won't see any popups. When the phone is off however, home button works to wake the phone. Therefore displaying the unlock puzzle screen and then the popups. That's my understanding of it so far.

So yea, no dice with having NoLED on top and getting the popups after that by pressing the home button.

About your sms problem. can you try to uninstall the app completely (to clear any stuck settings you might have caused), restart, and then install NoLED again ? The SMS trigger does work here every time I try it.
[Android Apps and Games] dipxda:
I uninstalled NoLED, restarted the phone, installed NoLED, set all options as before, but unfortunately I still get the red "other" icon for incoming SMS. I have no idea what's going on here.
[Android Apps and Games] madmack:
same thing happens whether you choose icon/dot ?
[Android Apps and Games] dipxda:
I switched from icons to dots and yes, I get also a red dot for incoming SMS.
[Android Apps and Games] dipxda:
I disabled now "other notifications" in NoLED and then I don't get any notification for incoming SMS in NoLED. This confirms that NoLED does indeed not identify the SMS notification correctly but classifies them as other notifications.
[Android Apps and Games] madmack:
good, you narrowed down the problem.

try this apk and let me know.

btw, in your old apk, if sms is the second notification after something else (say gmail), it should work.
[Android Apps and Games] dipxda:
Yes, you made it! It works, received SMS now show up in green with the correct icon!

BTW, why did it work on the Galaxy Spica but not on the Galaxy S?

And will it drain battery faster on the Spica since it does not have an AMOLED display?

Thanks a lot for your help and your patience.
[Android Apps and Games] madmack:
Yeey.. nailed it down ;)

as to why, well, lets just say that my program receives the SMS notification *after* the screen turns on on your phone, instead of before as in my phone and your son's spica. am relying on something else now to determine idle state.

am not sure about the Spica. But if it does not have (S)AMOLED screen, then yes, it will most likely be draining battery much worse than our galaxy s.

here a simple test you can do, get any notification on the spica's screen, go to a dark room (preferably completely dark) and have a look at the screen.. It will most likely be glowing even where its supposedly black.
[Android Apps and Games] kyeung:
Hi Madmack,

Does the new version restart scheduler after reboot?
[Android Apps and Games] madmack:
anyone here with a vibrant that is facing FC issues?

if so, and you know how to use logcat, can you please post or pm me with the error from logcat? seems some vibrant users are still having problems here and there.
[Android Apps and Games] madmack:
yes it does :)
[Android Apps and Games] jrharvey:
Just an FYI that the only version of this that I can get running on my vibrant correctly is .9. In 2.1.1 and 2.1.2 I only get the notification ONCE and then when I press the power button it dissables the app completely. I have to restart the phone to get it to start working again because the widget doesnt start the service like .9 does. At least this is what happens on my phone.
[Android Apps and Games] madmack:
does it FC ?

if you're using launcher pro or pattern unlocking, try disabling both and try again ?

do you get a little text popup when you click on the widget (after it disabled itself) with "NoLED is on" and "NoLED is off" ? or is it completely irresponsive ?

i'm going to release a version in the market with a crash reporter. that way users can send me reports if the app FCs. so if it does FC, you can use that version as soon as its out.
[Android Apps and Games] jrharvey:
No force closes. I have tried disabling launcher pro and using TW only. Same thing happens. When I restart the phone. I do get the popup that "NoLED is ON" when I press the widget. I can try checking a logcat and posting it if you want. Everything appears to be running correctly the first time around but after I get that first notification its almost like NoLED just shuts off and the only way to get it going again is restarting the phone.

Also regardless of whether the new versions work or not I am still VERY happy you created this. Dont take that as a complaint or *****ing... just giving feedback. Good work so far.
[Android Apps and Games] madmack:
After it shuts off, do you get any popups if you click on the widget ? or does the widget look completely static ?

NoLED is not FCing so I doubt you'll find anything for me in logcat. However, it might help you narrow down the problem by seeing what is exactly happening with NoLED shuts off. (might be a system call, or another application interfering). Anyhow, you should see *something* hopefully.
[Android Apps and Games] jrharvey:
Yes I still get popups that say "NoLED is off" or "NoLED is on". Widget works fine and appears to work. I just dont get any bouncing LED's when I get a message or missed call. I am not in a place I can give a logcat right now but I will later.
[Android Apps and Games] madmack:
ok, please email me or send a pm here so we can continue debugging this.
[Android Apps and Games] jrharvey:
Ok sent a PM but I think I got it working for me but there is a weird bug that I discovered.
[Android Apps and Games] FL00DY:
Really love the app, awesome idea. Can I ask for a really small addition. Could I ask for a smaller timeout? Like 1 minute or 5-10 minutes. Other then that I love it :)
[Android Apps and Games] CNemo7539:
Hate to ask it again, but it will be nice to reiterate what timeout actually does right now. Does it shut down NoLed completely or simply dismiss notification?
[Android Apps and Games] madmack:
They still shut down NoLED.

loving the crash reporter, am receiving them and fixing as we speak :D
[Android Apps and Games] Stupendousman:
First of all, i love this app.

But i have the same problem with the akku. I charged my sgs yesterday evening and today in the morning after 6 hours my akku was at 50%. And this was definitely the no led app. Normaly i loose 3-6% in one night.
[Android Apps and Games] Bandis710:
Since I downloaded the latest version from the market , NOled keeps force closing on me .. Never had that problem before. Your app is great btw ! Have been using is since the beginning !

Using : XXJPH with launcher pro

Edit; got Noled working again .. I also had an update for launcherpro .. Looks like activating noled whilst running the latest launcherpro is a no go .. So I temporarily disbaled launcherpro , activated noled under touchwiz and then reactivated launcherpro again .. Result a working Noled .. Even after reboot and launcherpro active no FC's anymore ..

Thought I would share this so other people with the same problem can befefit from it :-)
[Android Apps and Games] Frontier3:
OK working with Handcent is so awesome! Great job! Now if it could just work for voicemails it'd be absolutely perfect!

Well, besides the battery drain, but that's not your fault =]
[Android Apps and Games] madmack:
Guys ! major release. I fixed a lot of the FCs, memory leaks. (thanks to all who used the crash reporter and cared to submit it to me).

You can place the dots on the top right corner..

Missed calls are now triggered immediately.

This should feel much snappier and robust. And with no FCs anymore (hopefully). I just changed the framework and the dynamics. All triggeres are done a little more efficiently now.

Get the change log from the website, and start downloading :)
[Android Apps and Games] iammichel:
Damn I updated without reading the changelog first (saw update in market), so I didn't remove the app first before reinstalling...should I just uninstall the latest version and reinstall again? Or remove noled, install previous version, remove, and install latest version?
[Android Apps and Games] madmack:
oh that's ok. rebooting is just to be on the safe side. If you're already on v2.3, just reboot your phone to make sure crap from earlier versions is gone.

worse case, you can uninstall 2.3, reboot, then install it again
[Android Apps and Games] rmeden:
Excellent app! Thanks.

Have you considered adding the option for an audio Beep once a minute or so when there is a pending alert? I know there are other apps for that, but yours is already running (and addresses a similar problem)

Robert
[Android Apps and Games] rmeden:
Another question about battery drain...

When no alerts are present, is the phone allowed to sleep? (if so, then battery drain really is seldom more than any app)

Robert
[Android Apps and Games] madmack:
I haven't considered implementing that feature yet. maybe in the future when am done implementing what I have in mind first.,

your phone is definitely allowed to sleep when no notifications are present on the screen (I hold no permanent locks during the application's life cycle).

as a matter of fact, I don't even hold a CPU wake lock when the notifications are visible! but I think android is hard wired to stay awake (screen and CPU) when screen is on.
[Android Apps and Games] kyeung:
Hi Madmack,

Any chance that exchange mail be supported under the "mail" notification (not "all other")? Thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] Harts@J:
Hi

Installed the version 2.3. When I put it on the home screen, there is Widget NoLED Settings, the previous version there were Widget Toggle On/Off, I miss that.

The app is just great.
[Android Apps and Games] madmack:
I really can't without root. Google locked down the APIs for that application.

The on/off toggle is still there in 2.3 (NoLED can't live without it). Just make sure you put the widget and not the shortcut.
[Android Apps and Games] muntos:
I believed that you want to keep the thinks simpler as they can when I asked for "top icons only" feature... And now I see a "new" feature with the dots on the top right corner...hmmm, don't know what to believe anymore...:p
[Android Apps and Games] Italia99:
Run the NoLED-2.3.apk with the JPH Firmeware?
[Android Apps and Games] Harts@J:
Yes, it is, I had a short-cut.

Thanks for the reply.
[Android Apps and Games] woeds:
I had a lot of trouble getting previous versions to work, but the newest one works straight out of the box! :)

One question though. Is NoLed supposed to detect when a notification is cleared remotely? eg. if I receive an email, NoLed will display the email icon. If I then read the email on my PC, NoLed continues to display the icon until I wake up the phone. Is that a bug, or feature?
[Android Apps and Games] madmack:
I can't really call it a bug or feature, but I guess if we'll talk in Steve job's terms, its a feature :)

its basically an oversight that I did. I'll work on fixing that next. am just worried that there isn't really a fast way to determine that (dismiss the notification screen when all icons/dots are cleared) will be a bit tricky to make this check fast and convenient for our CPUs.

am glad you say the newest works straight away. I put a considerable amount of time to rework the whole structure :) besides, the crash reporter was of great help, specially for the fascinate.
[Android Apps and Games] deepside7:
I've read that this uses around 6% battery per hour. Is this still the case or has it been improved upon since?
[Android Apps and Games] FuryriderX:
I can't seem to get 2.3 functional on my phone. (I9000, jm5, no lagfix, using handcent)

2.1.6 works perfectly, but no matter how many reboots i do before/after uninstalling the old one/installing the new one, it refuses to show any notifications.

In 2.1.6, it would trigger the notification almost immediately after the message popup. With 2.3 installed, the screen just times out normally, and no notification is ever shown.

I never tested the missed call/email notifications with 2.3, but the text notification is the one that matters the most to me.

I know this is fairly general - is there any more information i could give you to help resolve this issue?
[Android Apps and Games] madmack:
you using any screen locks at all ? make sure you have the "puzzle" screen lock at least.

please try it with emails and let me know if that, at least, works.
[Android Apps and Games] Frontier3:
Huh, I had not seen that statistic... I would also be curious to see if anyone knows exactly how much battery this uses now...

Also, I like the option for upper right dots... I'm used to notification lights being in that corner so it feels more comfortable =]

Great work as always!
[Android Apps and Games] FuryriderX:
I have the lock screen disabled typically - i.e. enabled in android, but switched off with a widget. I'll do my best to give it a try with an email and let you know. For the moment, 2.1.6 works flawlessly, with the settings above.
[Android Apps and Games] madmack:
there is your problem. You'll need to keep a lock screen active for the new versions of NoLED to work. any one should do: the default android lock screen, or our puzzle sweep to unlock screen.
[Android Apps and Games] HeikDiesel:
This app only works if I remove the battery from my phone for a hard reset and then after one message it never works again unless I repeat. Any help? Samsung Fascinate.
[Android Apps and Games] jark99:
im having a problem with this app in conjunction with Chomp sms....apparently your new update causes chomp sms Popup box to not activate till much later....it pops up like an hour later for a bunch of new and old text messages.....its very strange.

you can refer to my other post here :) thanks http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=8293042#post8293042
[Android Apps and Games] xjlx659:
NoLED + WidgetLocker

Hey, thanks for the kickass app.

Unfortunately, it seems like it's not working with WidgetLocker on Fascinate.

I saw an older post about the WidgetLocker developer combining forces with you... How did that go?

Let me know if donating some beer money would help :)
[Android Apps and Games] madmack:
You could try to use the back button to dismiss the notifications instead of the home key. This should resolve the issues with WidgetLocker. lemme know if you still have problems.

This is really strange. Maybe chomp sms has a way to delay the notification box if there is an active window sitting on top ? you could try to dismiss your noled notifications with the "back" button as I stated above. seems to help in most of the cases.

Could be a lock screen problem. Please make sure you use one of the default lock screens. (read posts above).

You could also try what I said to the two earlier posts.
[Android Apps and Games] jark99:
THANKS! the back button made it work :) i have been using your app since day 1 and really like this...my first time i got this phone i was surprised that there was no led on the phone....your app just makes melove my sgs even more :)
[Android Apps and Games] xjlx659:
Can you explain this bit a little further in detail? This is what I'm doing so far:

1. go to home screen

2. let it sit

3. screen darkens and widgetlocker kicks in

4. send myself an email from a computer

5. wait for NoLED to blink.... and nothing :(
[Android Apps and Games] HeikDiesel:
Lock screen is in it's default setting. Task manager says the program is running, it just never works. I have tested it with a phone call, gmail email, and text.

Also, once I remove the battery and hard reset the phone, it will work for both texts and calls, but only shows one icon for which instance happened last. ie: Sent text, showed up green envelope, made call, green envelope went away and blue missed call icon appeared. Can make a video if that would help you
[Android Apps and Games] madmack:
yea, a video would be cool to illustrate that behavior :)

Please make sure you record everything, from the time your widget is on, going through shutting your screen, and then sending yourself an email. I would like to see what screen lock you're using too. lets see if we can solve this
[Android Apps and Games] HeikDiesel:
Let me charge my camcorder, Ill youtube it by tonight
[Android Apps and Games] madmack:
seems like everything is ok. did you try uninstalling widget locker to see if it'll work ?

I dont' use that app, (had it to test earlier versions but uninstalled it recently).
[Android Apps and Games] xjlx659:
NoLED works when I disable WidgetLocker. So I guess there's no way around it? :(
[Android Apps and Games] madmack:
I'll need to install this again and see what is exactly causing this. My suspicion though: WidgetLocker is disabling the android keyguard (lock screen) completely, instead of replacing it. I think it acts as a Home Screen and not a Lock Screen, so when my app queries if your phone is "locked", it gets No as an answer even though your screen is off.

Until then though, am afraid you'll have to make do without WidgetLocker.
[Android Apps and Games] HeikDiesel:
Heres another question mac. If I have my screen set to auto time out in 2 minutes and I send a text and lock my phone manually, and then walk away and in under 2 minutes that person replies, could that be the cause of my intermittent problems?
[Android Apps and Games] xjlx659:
Worked!

That was it!

When the lock pattern was off, NoLED didn't work.

After I set the lock pattern, NoLED started working!

Once I pressed the power key to get out of the Lock Screen, I was taken to WidgetLocker.

So it looks like WidgetLocker is indeed working as a HomeScreen.

Both apps are a must, so I guess I'll have to leave the lock pattern on for now.

Thank you!
[Android Apps and Games] madmack:
timeout will work only after you already received a notification. So if you close your phone's screen, receive any kind of notification, and have two minutes timeout value, NoLED will shut down and you won't receive any more notifications until you open your screen again.
[Android Apps and Games] madmack:
Awesome, great work. Care to share the steps here so other WidgetLocker users can learn this workaround ?
[Android Apps and Games] jr78:
Stationary flashing dots?

Thanks for a great app. This really improves my SGS!

It would be great if there was an option to keep the dots at a fixed location and not be moving, but instead flashing dots like most other notification LEDs on other phones.
[Android Apps and Games] fane1:
I confirm that with a program that disables lock screen noled dont work but its no problem to me.Thanks for the program its very good :)
[Android Apps and Games] woeds:
After running it for a full day (and night), the battery drain seems to be quite high. Went to bed with battery @ 70%, and when I woke up I had 28% left. According to the built-in stats, 95% of that drain was caused by the display.

I did receive an sms during the night, but I have NoLed set to timeout after 30 mins.
[Android Apps and Games] madmack:
interesting stat , I don't think my phone drains that much battery overnight for 30min of NoLED activity. are you using froyo by any chance ?

sure NoLED is a battery drainer, but not by that much. on my phone anyways.
[Android Apps and Games] woeds:
Yup, running Froyo. Buy without NoLed, the battery drops about 5-10% during a night.
[Android Apps and Games] madmack:
please read OP on why the dots need to keep moving.
[Android Apps and Games] madmack:
froyo has always been a massive battery drainer for me. display stats always show 90%+ of battery juice wasted on display even if I only had the screen on for a total of 1h in 13h.

some bugs with their display driver that I hope they get sorted out sometime soon.

I just wanted to clarify this because people will start referring to your comment even though they shouldn't experience , necessarily anyways , the same amount of battery drainage.

meanwhile, you can always use the scheduler to turn NoLED off at these hours
[Android Apps and Games] exadeci:
Exactly the same since 2.3
[Android Apps and Games] madmack:
I think we'll have to revert the Handcent compatibility thing that I added in the last two versions. I'll keep it as an "experimental" option though. Seems to be causing too much trouble, and it was much more robust without having to delay 6 seconds.
[Android Apps and Games] mytux:
Like to manage NoLED automatically

I just wanted to know, if there are any plans to implement the locale plugin interface on this app. So I can include it in my profiles, which are managed automatically based on locations, time, wifi connections or a lot more different things.

mytux.
[Android Apps and Games] madmack:
I'll have a look at that when I get sometime. I knew about locale as an app, but totally forgot about their plugins feature. I kinda hated them when they went for paid after being free initially. lol

my mini rant at that app. I wonder if they still charge that $10 for it.
[Android Apps and Games] mytux:
Would be really cool. Actually I do not use Locale. I'm using 'Tasker' which is cheaper and has lot more features on board initially and it can use all the locale plugins ;-) That's why I ask about the plugin feature.
[Android Apps and Games] ffarber:
Hi all-

New user here and I have sporadically read the thread (probably one in every ten pages) but it is so long to read it all so I apologize if this has been covered.

My SGS is behaving a little strangely after installing noled, after a I get a notification and dismiss (with either the power key or the home key, I have not tried the back key) the phone does not go back to sleep automatically. I have tried turning noled off. I have tried putting the phone to sleep manually which works but once I wake it up it won't go back to sleep automatically. Is there anything noled that precipitate this behavior or should I look elsewhere (I am using launcherpro and settings profile)?

Thanks for any help, I love the app.

Fred
[Android Apps and Games] Frontier3:
I am curious what you mean by this and what problems there were? I just installed the newest version just now and i did NOT turn on that delay option... sent a text message to my phone and the notification came on instantly and went away with the press of my home button like it should.

Seems to work beautifully on my rooted captivate.