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[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] The Solutor:
Use wi sync plus to schedule the data connection, or do the same manually.

Basically it's the only thing that matter.

Don't waste your time with task killers and other voodoo techniques.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] nate340:
Just plain wrong and wrong

wrong there is less than 20mAh difference between the two phones.

The average user gets about a day out of a mini that's 950mAh/24h which means that it uses 35.6mAh an hour. which means you have less than an hour difference between the two phones.

plus the simple fact that the mini not the mini pro has the large battery.

sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/compatiblephones/bst-38#view=overview

ifixit.com/Teardown/Sony-Ericsson-Xperia-X10-Mini-E10i-Teardown/3124/1

google bst 38 which is the battery for the pro which is 930mAh

and google x10 mini tear down and read the mAh off the battery its 950
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] The Solutor:
My battery (bst38) is 970mAh
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] nate340:
well thats interesting kind of explains all the confusion then. i have two bst38's both are 930mAh, ones out of a k850i and the other is out of a C905.

can you post a picture of your 970mAh bst38? and maybe we can get more pro users to check what batteries they have.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] The Solutor:
Here you are.

P.S. I don't have my w995 handy and don't remeber the mAh of its battery.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] nate340:
i wonder how many bst 38 variants there are and which pro's got the 930 and which ones got the 970.

i now understand why people seem so confused about which phone has the larger capacity battery.

still feel its not a large enough increase to notice any significant increase in battery life but a gain is a gain.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] andoy:
970 mAh here as well. Agree with the comment above, no need for tasks killer etc, i dont use them.

My old k750i is also bst-38 and I think it's 930 mAh. It still lasts a week for me on full charge.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] F3niX:
Have disabled the background data after exiting market always.

Ok reinstalling firmware and will install only required apps...
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] andoy:
What's the capacity of your battery though?

Just an update, I'm now on my 4th day and still have 20%. I'll take a picture of the battery info tonight before I plug in and charge to prove.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] F3niX:
just an update.

i have come to know the problem.

its actually that my college is in outskirts with very low to no signal.

So the phone keeps scanning for networks and thus destroying the battery....
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] andoy:
That's what I said on my reply to you on page 3 :p.

Anyway, what's the capacity of your battery? It'll be a factor, most people have 930 mAh.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] andoy:
Sorry peeps, I was trying to take a picture of my screen but I couldn't see the text after I took a shot because my screen brightness is set to the lowest. When I adjusted the screen brightness, the phone turned off.

Give me another 4 days and I'll post the pic :).

I got 4 days, 11 hours, and 6 minutes before I plugged-in for charging. Takes 2 hours to fully charge (when the lightning icon disappears in the battery icon).
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] skyleth:
AIt's better the helix launcher or the adw or launcher pro? I mean which one gives more battery time?

By the way, my battery is 970 mah
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] F3niX:
Ok.

After a day of use with helix i still have 48%(usually 29% with stock).

So its ok.......

2 days max for me though :(
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] garrychau:
Cell tower reception makes a huge difference in my case. I live in Floirda rural area, when I only get 1 bar at home (out of 4) if I am lucky. My phone last for a day. While I was in Hong Kong for a month to visit. I am able to use it for 3 days, where I have full 4 bars where ever I go. I use 2G only in both incident.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] F3niX:
^^Ya thats true

Guess i need to use flight mode in college
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Mol:
I'm using Zeam as launcher which is giving me slightly better battery life than Helix.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] andoy:
As promised, below is my battery screen before I plugged-in just now for charging. I still have 17% but had to install games so I needed to plug-in to PC and eventually charge.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] nate340:
maybe we should start a contest between mini's and mini pro's, who can go the furthest with out a charge to prove that the 20mAh difference between the phones are insignificant.

btw i was looking at build.prop files and noticed that mine has a line about battery and 930mAh's while a pro's said 950mAh's
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] zivicic:
I still have trouble with battery! I tried to kill some of the process, reduce the brightness, turn off all data transfers, stay on 2G and the only thing I got was an increase in battery life with 7h to 12h and that's it .... I called Sony Ericsson customer service and they told me that it might be to blame the old SIM card from the operator. Now I replaced it and I wonder how it will behave now. Also my cell phone can not automatically pull data from the network and the SMS center number because the old card .. They told me that if I will still have a problem with the battery that mobile must be carried to the service ...

sorry about my english :)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] YAP0:
Hey all,

I just wanted to share my experiences of the battery life ive been gettin on my x10 mini pro! I assume andoy that ur SEX2 ;)

When i first got the phone, the battery would be low by night but that was probably because i was fiddling around with it and downloadin and playin with apps and games as u do with new things!

I installed Helix launcher and Advanced task killer and also turned down screen brightness to 20% but i was still only getting about 1.5 days.

I then tried uninstalling advanced task killer and turned the screen down to minimum which got me to about 2 days usage with data/wifi/gps/bluetooth/background data all off when not in use.

Although one evening i left my wifi/data on with a facebook chat app running and when i checked my phone a few hours later before going to sleep it was dead. The last time i checked it was on about 70%. I had to plug it in before it would turn on and the battery was on at 13% when i turned it on. So maybe the phone doesnt actually reach 0%?

But the next day after 7 hours i noticed the battery had only gone down 2% with 3 bars of reception and it dropped a further 6% in 2 hours when i went to an area with only 1 bar of reception where i remember the last time i was there drained 10-15% battery. I managed to get to 3 days to 47% and 4 days to 30% battery remaining before i decided to charge it as i didnt want to risk it.

Right now the battery has only dropped 1% after 6 hours which has included a call and sending and receiving a few msgs!

So it seems like my battery has some how improved after that incident!

Oh and ive found that my battery life seems to depend a lot on the reception it has. I mostly get 2-3 bars at home where i am mostly so it could last even longer with 4!

And also i find that my battery charges quite fast! It went from 29% to 65% which is 36% in 34 minutes!

The battery i have is the 970mah!
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] andoy:
You got that right =D. It does charge fast but to fully charge, it takes 2 hours (at least in my case).

I love this phone, i can go up to as high as 6 days for minimal use and 4-5 days for heavy usage. Of course, no 3g.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] ginowww:
hello everyone :), im new here. i've had my mini for almost 2 weeks now and i'm a bit worried about the lifespan of my battery.

When is the best time to charge the battery? i've read in some sites that draining the battery isn't so good for batteries these days. I usually charge my mini when it has around 3 or 4% left. Am i better off charging it at say.. 15%? 20%?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] F3niX:
I barely get 2 days of very low use because most of the time i will be in areas having 1 to 2 bars reception
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] YAP0:
yeah low reception isnt so good for the battery life of this phone :(

I havent been able to get more than 2-3 days since that last incident

On another note my Helix launcher kept on FCing after i installed a signal/receiption widget. I tried restarting and uninstalling apps to free up space but it didnt help.

I wonder if the 2.1 update will be coming soon...keep hearing it will be coming for the X10 and it sounds to me like some sources assume it for the whole xperia range.

Would be awesome if we could get 2.2 but that seems unlikely as it seems only the higher specced phones can get it although i'm not sure what the minimum requirements for it are...
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] link87:
I'm interested in that too.

How do you charge your phones? Do you wait to be fully uncharged (<5%) or do you start charging when the battery is below 30% 20%?

I read that it is recomended for Li-Ion batteries to charge it when it is between 80% and 30%, not more and not less, and discharge it fully sometimes. But the x10 mini has a LiPo battery, I think these batteries are differents.

What do you think about it?

Thanks.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] linliz:
no 2 day's

My x10 mini is standby for max 1 and a half day.

Advanced taskiller,wifi,3g,everything is out.

Screen on 30%

use ADW launher,only pingchat is running and my handcentsms.

I charge it now erevry night when i go to sleep

In the evening 30%

sent a few sms,pingchats,4 calls and look manually for mail.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] F3niX:
^^ SAme here dude....

I think its common problem

:) happy to hear that though

:( sad that SE hasn't fixed it yet
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Darkbidule:
In fact, these battery are pratically the same. Similar technologie for charging but with differents components : Li-Ion battery means Lithium-Ion and LiPo battery means Lithium-Ion-Polymer. So what you've read is Ok for our minis and really adviced to have the better lifetime battery.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] gggg123:
Hello,

I'm new but I've read the forum for some time. I have an X10 mini (not pro). I've found a battery replacement on ebay (object id 170504197119, sorry no link allowed :) )

Any chance this will be for the mini (and not the mini pro) ? What kind of battey life could one expect when using this 1000mAh battery ? I think it will not be anything huge but I'm no expert :)

TIA
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] ginowww:
ok thanks! i'll stop draining my battery to less than 5% from now on :)

would you guys know if battery indicators drain the battery more?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] link87:
Thaks for the answer Darkbidule.

I think it is for x10 mini pro. In the x10 mini it isn't easy to swap the battery.

Yes, battery indicators use to discharge the battery (ironically). But it depends of the indicator, some widgets lets you to configure the frecuency of update, so the less frecuently it updates the less battery it should use. Anyway, I don't think a well implemented battery indicator drains so much battery. I use "battery status" widget, and I haven't noticed a very drastic battery drain.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] linliz:
13 uur 19 min van de lader discharging fom 97% heb nu op dit moment nog 36%

weergave 53%

Tel inactief 23%

mobiel standby 16%

android systeem,wifi en pingchat staan op 2%

Today i uninstalled pingchat and handcentsms,use adw launher and beautiful widgets,had 7 widgets on my homescreen,now just 4

I will look today if my batterytime is longer.

Screen on 50%

Battery indicator is of now,and advanced taskiller too
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] andoy:
3 to 4 days heavy usage

4 to 5 normal usage

5 to 6 days light usage

I start charging when the battery warning (less than 15%) shows. But there will be (definitely) times when you don't have a choice but to let the battery go below 5% because you're outside. Just don't drain it to zero.

As for the battery status, just get a shortcut creator app and create a shortcut to the power status to check your battery %. As much as possible, don't use widgets to monitor stuff for your phone.

This is the best phone for me so far after my k750.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] The Solutor:
This is a task that the phone does itself.

As any other pone built in the last 7/8 year when the phone shuts down, the battery is not completely discharged.

A single really full dicharge can destroy a lithium battery.

So charge/discharge the phone as you like, the phone will protect his battery w/o any user action.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] j_simon208:
:mad:Ok..here is my take on the whole battery issue.

A) Killing all the connectivity options = not a very useful smart phone.

B) Turning brightness down to low = not a very pleasent reading experience

C) Not using widgets, push email, IM programs = waste of money(not getting your money's worth)

D) Having to keep a constant eye on batt level = stressful.

I've had this phone for a few days(traded an HTC Desire) for it expecting better battery life since it doesnt have a power hungry 3.7" display...But what I found is..its crap! I am in the military and was late to formation for the first time in 8 years, why? My phone drained and died while in standby on my night stand. Nothing like a subordinate ringing my doorbell to see why I am late. I can only imagine what would become of me if I didnt answer my phone during a military recall(which this weekend is always a strong possibility). Needless to say..Anyone want to buy my X10 Mini-pro or trade for a Blackberry? Cuz I dont want this garbage!!
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] The Solutor:
B) = almost irrelevant

A/C) Use wisync plus to schedule the connection (1 minute very 15, or so) and(or) on action eg: connection on when the screen is on, connection off when the screen is off), and you still have your emails (tough not instant), widget and so on, whit a battery life improved from 200 to 400%.

D) Not really needed, keep also in mynd that the X10 mini is incredibly fast to fully charge,( unlike almost any other smartphone), so a car charger and/or a usb cable at your working place, can be used effectively keeping the phone fully charged, even if the overnight charging is missed.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] j_simon208:
Kinda missing the point..>NONE< of those things should be happening.

This phone should "Just work" You shouldnt have to adjust this and tweak that..or install this utility to do what the phone should do on its own. You see alot of problems like this with ALL android phones and it is a deal breaker.

I cant explain to my commander why I am not out on post on time by saying; "well sir, I didnt turn off my data connection and uninstall all my widgets so the battery could last all night. Thats why the alarm didnt go off like it should." I wouldnt accept that as an excuse for any of my troops thats for d@mn sure.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Campello:
Tank you for your help, Komanche. I apreciate!
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] lakksa:
i can't understand how you manage to get these 1-2 day uptimes!? If i use the phone with everything off (gps, network locate, 3g data etc) and backlight at almost it lowest my phone achieves an uptime of about 12h..

if i use it "normally" - meaning 3g and background data on all the time, frequent synchronization with mail/calendar etc. speaking in the phone occasionally, reading and composing emails, checking random stuff with browser and maybe once in a while quickly checking some directions from maps (gps on only when i need it).. no widgets, no games.. all the "unneeded" programs uninstalled. My uptime at best with this use is about 6h. which isn't nearly enough for me.

one of the reasons i bought this phone was that i read and thought the battery would last so that i would "only" need to charge it every night.

i think i've tried everything.. with and without app managers, battery savers, cpu clockers/underclockers etc. removing all the widgets and all..

please tell me am i missing something or is there some major problem with my phone? it would be enough to make it last 12-16h with the internet-things enabled.

ps. sorry for crappy language with small letters, my keyboard is a bit wasted, shifts not working etc.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] @MARK:
My wife phone is good for a couple of days unless we update the built in facebook app at which point battery life drops to a few hours.

Checking the partial wake counter (*#*#4636#*#*) confirms this.

As soon as we uninstall it, all is good again and we are back to a couple of days.

Even if it is not the Facebook app killing your battery the partial wake counter should show you what is draining your battery.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] x10bravia:
which model are you using exactly? mini? mini pro?

and what apps do you use? do you use ATK?

i usually get a max of 50h uptime with light usage on my minipro.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] galaningenieros:
Hi everyone. I think the way to check battery's life, is to check it every morning after sleeping, because the use of the cellular is the same for everybody while sleeping (so none). I have a good signal from my service provider 4 bar at home, use adw launcher, widget for battery's life, atk (crazy every two hours with low security), all conections off (wifi, gps, bt) and brigthnes 25%. For 8 hours, it drains 1%, and the maximun consuption is due to screen.

I have lots of phone calls every day (minimum 2 hours), bt lot of time (hands free in my car), and almost nothing of data conections. Battery lasts almost 2 days with this usage.

regards
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] drift08:
My SE Xperia X10 mini Pro also came with BST-38 970 mAh battery but it doesn't last that long, I mean I rarely goes online...maybe 15-20 min max two times a day o check emails and fb via wifi. I disabled my data to save some battery life but it isn't doing much good. I am thinking either:

A) Get a generic BST-38 1000 mAh battery cuz OEM too expensive.

B) Get an additonal OEM BST-38 970 mAh battery w/ a battery wall charger but 970 mAh battery is very hard to find. Most site sell the 930 mAh ver. Any clues where to get 970 mAh?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] ammokachie:
which launcher do you have ?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] loger8:
Deactivate 3G. The 2G baseband spends half as much. And get miniCM 1.0.0.

??? Sent from my X10 Mini using XDA Premium App ???
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] quanta08:
On my Xperia mini I have made almost all the tweaks and installed all the software which are recommended for Battery saving like Helix,Task Killer...etc, but I am still unable to get more then 24 hours of battery life with very little usage. Phone drains 23%-24% battery during night time without any use :(

Does anyone have any idea! what causing my phone battery to drain so quickly?

Thanks.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] flex96:
try my zip files for stock
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] royalbloodvi:
Tips updated! Refer to first post and feel free to add anything helpful or comment ;)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] koalaii:
On the ROM MiniCM6 (see ROM section), using Zeam Launcher instead of the Launcher pro really improved the battery life. I was not using any widget in both cases.

The older version of Zeam launcher, zeam-2.8.8.apk , seems to save more battery than the most recent ones. The 2.8.8 works very well without a bug for me.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=664149

koa
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Sir_gpm:
My battery keep alive for about 1.5 day, I want to improve it, follow some steps in the first post. Just got a question, if I put my phone in 2g mode I can still use the wifi without a problem?, I mean 3g is usefull when you have a internet plan in your phone, right?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] konaes:
Setting your phone to 2G only will not affect the wifi.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] aLeex10:
I have come to 18 hours. With CM6, all connections disabled and SetCPU
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Shadow-Nexus:
I would say launcher pro man!

Btw the mini and the mini pro will always have battery issues so dont complain all the time

People can try to buy multiple batteries so they have backups for when they forget the charger or something

Try looking for different battteries in the accesories section

I heard there is this one battery that lasts very long but is shipped from china or something
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Sir_gpm:
I followed al the steps in the first post. And also add the an App called PowerMax, to manage your energy. I just installed, but I think will work. Better than Juicer (something) and Green (something). Have you guys tried something like this?,

Cheers!.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Dassin4:
Does anyone know if we can use nandroid backup or something similar on our Vogues? I have been doing a lot of flashing lately, trying out different ROMs and have been using Titanium Backup to more easily reinstall my apps after a flash, but the process is still somewhat tedious. I could definitely see the benefit of a full nand backup. Or is there another way to get back up and running faster?

I have tried doing some searching and have not had much success.

Thanks in advance for any help!

Sent from my Sprint Vogue with Myn's odexed Warm Donut
[Touch CDMA Android Development] nickel911:
Bump... I would like to know as well.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Naemion:
The easiest way to figure it out is to try it.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] loserskater:
If you want a full nand backup than you should use the "backup /data" option in the install menu. If you want certain things backed up, I've read that mybackup is good, although whenever I try to backup things like homescreen and settings, it doesnt restore properly. For apps I just use astro.

The problem with doing an entire backup of /data is that sometimes when you install a new system and try to use the old data you might have issues.