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[HD2 General] skilty:
already made my choice and win mo and the hd2 won

why?...

i had a desire and hd2 for a week to trial both and although the desire was impressive i found the hd2 to be better for what i used a "phone" for...

video - more options (xvud, avi's etc) and better quality on hd2

camera - clearer and more detailed

apps - yes the android market has lots of apps but like iphone most of them are crap!, the only thing id use that winmo doesnt have is layar. winmo still has fpsece and a few more pieces of software thats unique (loving Meteor at the minute)

i also took the gamble that we'd have a decent working android port at some point anyway, are we likely to get some porting winmo on an android device? lol - not likely, so i figured that with the hd2 id got the best of both worlds and therefore more choice...

seriously, go back 2 years and you wouldnt have had the choice of different OS's on the same device. its a good job theres so many clever people in this community, they've really made a difference!
[HD2 General] redfrontdoor:
Too true. Whilst I really like my HD2 and most of its features suit what I do, WiMo (in my opinion) is now over looked when it comes to new apps. I already mentioned the Navionics seacharts app that i really want and having decided to try Skype, I go to the site to find thats dropped for WiMO. I can't wait for fully functioning dual boot WiMo/Android on my HD2. That would be phone heaven :)
[HD2 General] lynxboy:
Noticed a few posts regarding the video playback options so thought i'd inform you all that Android now has just as many, if not more playback options than WinMo. That was the biggest single issue for me when I made the switch. I used TCMP and Coreplayer for years. Being a Usenet/Newsgroup subscriber, I download all of my content in xvid/x264 and being able to simply drag the files across to my phone rather than convert to .mp4 was a killer feature for me. I somehow JUST mangaged to get by converting the odd film or two for long train/coach journeys!

Luckily in the past month or so, a new media player has arrived called RockPlayer, which is the first legitimate xvid/wmv/x264/mkv/mov/asf etc. player on Android. The performance is great and the UI clean and simple. It may lack the deeper options of Coreplayer, however I only ever found myself playing with the rendering options etc. when I encountered laggy playback, albeit on less powerful devices than the HD2.

Anyway, video playback should no longer be a worry for anyone considering Android. However, if like me you are outside the US, there is no Android screen as large as the HD2 (No Evo 4G :() and for that reason, I look back at you guys with envy!!

Thanks again for the great response, it's great to see the range of opinions on the matter!

Regards.
[HD2 General] m4sta2k:
Never gonna give it up never gonna let it down ! Win 6.5 HD 2 :D:o
[HD2 General] bronx:
naaaah... I'll stick to hd2. I am just a winmo man I guess... :) maaaan... I love this device. who needs all those fart apps? the ONLY two apps I might miss are Plants vs Zombies and Rebirth (gotta love dat synth music :D ).

other then that - leo... a true king of the smartphones. lol :D
[HD2 General] rmsa786:
I can't wait for a flashable android rom for the hd2. tbh, i'm just bored with minmo now and everyone seems to be making apps for iphone or android these days.
[HD2 General] ryan562:
The android port for the hd2 is what made me want to go back to android. So the other day I picked up the samsung vibrant lol. I still love my hd2 though still keeping it
[HD2 General] whatsupa:
Maybe im just different but why not have both? I am a tech guy who likes all platforms. I own 4 symbian phones, 2 winmo phones, and for games I own a ipod touch. I thought about android many times and was always waiting for the hardware to catch up and there are finally phones running android that have the specs I would like but they all went with cdma versions. So I will see what comes out in the future for a top spec gsm android. Another thing is I dont ever buy phones on contract and firmly believe that the carrier and phone you use should have nothing to do with each other. I bought my HD2 because I wanted a new winmo phone and there is no denying that the HD2 is the top choice for winmo. Remember no one phone will fill all your needs and manufactures do that for a reason, so you buy more phones... but this is where the consumer gets confused and think if they want new features they need a new phone, just have both! In the end though I will most likely stay away from android and go with a meego device for my linux phone kicks, as I am questioning why google feels the need to be around me 24 hours a day, in my search engine, in my web browser, in my computer OS, in my TV, in my phone? Call me old school but thats to much for me to give one company all my info, I like to keep it deverse among many companies so no one company knows everything about me. Again, maybe im just different?
[HD2 General] phly-phantom:
Now I've seen a few posts where people have already stated that they are now seriously considering selling their HD2 and moving on to a "real" Android phone. My question is, how many more of you are there? Have any other people had the same change of heart now they have seen the possiblities?

Regards.[/QUOTE]

Having owned the Iphone2 I returned to HD2 because in my opinion Apple delivers outdated technoloy, tries to control even media content and the information value of the Apple "Today" screen is exactly zero.

A great toy for "in"-people. After two days your tired of the fancy applications and start using apps which make sense. All of these you can get for WM. Since I have not used Android I wouldn`t dare to comment. But looking at pictures of the GUI it seems to be not very different from the HTC-Sense GUI.

All in all I see no need to think about anything else than HD 2 ! I´m afraid that WM 7 will rather be a step back in the direction of Apple. Lets hope for high value software development for WM 6.5.XXXXX
[HD2 General] tictac0566:
I´ll keep my HD2 for another generation, I´d say. I´m perfectly fine with this

brilliant device. The apps, mods and tweaks for Manila/Sense are what I would

miss, Android does not come with that much office related stuff I use and need.

In a year or so, we´ll see an updated iPhone 5 (or whatever they´ll call it),

we´ll know more about WP7, and HTC will have HD3 and other nice devices for us.

I´ll never again buy Samsung, their products are never really close to 100%,

they just make too many half-finished products at mediocre quality.

Motorola? Nokia? SE? No way. Therefore, no options for me.
[HD2 General] CDR123:
are you kidding me with the HD2s hardwarew and the best software android...Its like I have an EVO, why would I give up this perfect phone...for me the hardware plus android is the baest phone out there right now I think ill keep it for a while :)
[HD2 General] Baldrick2:
Sorry for asking..but how do you play Xvid and avi's? Do you use coreplayer or is there someway to install the codecs to use in Sense?

Sorry but the camera is absolute pants! Pixelated, out of focus...kinda two things you need in a camera

I'm not having a go at you skilty, this isn't a flaming thing

But I've seen descent camera on phones and the HD2 isn't one of them

Balders
[HD2 General] mjordan79:
For me, Android is still immature.
[HD2 General] nrfitchett4:
for basic pictures, the hd2 camera is fine, better than my touch pro2 or moto q9c. If I want to play photographer, I've got a 12mp olympus with 10x optical zoom point and shoot or my old Olympus OM-1 (circa 1976 or 1977).

To play xvid or avi, you can get a free player called divX. Go to their website, register and it is free (or find it floating around here).
[HD2 General] pittphan:
I jumped!

I just jumped yesterday to Android! Now I only had the HD2 since the US release and had not owned a Winmo phone previous to it. I was never really happy with it after coming from an Iphone and only got it because it was on my native network (Tmo US) and the iPhone was not.

So I just got the Samsung Vibrant (Galaxy S) and I Luv it! I highly recommend it and it is actually usable in sunlight - Hd2 was not.

So that's my quick story and now I have a US HD2 to sell... If anyone interested u can email me: pittphan at gmail.
[HD2 General] nrfitchett4:
just looked at the Vibrant and the only thing I would want that my hd2 didn't have is the 16gb internal storage.
[HD2 General] dumbquestion:
I have heard people say that android is so customizable et al. but winmo is far ahead with customizability imho. I have been playing with froyo on my hd2 and its cute (I must admit that I have been using wm/ppc/win ce since '97, so there aren't many aspects unexplored) and I'm still looking at it, watching for the WOW factor. Haven't seen it yet ( my device, by the way, has had no problems running it- no green screens, no sleep-of-deaths, etc.). I'd like to know from someone who has as much wm (or close) experience as I and much more android experience, who can have a more thorough comparative perspective. What am I missing/what will I see as I play with android, that would bring me over?

I suspect that android fanboys simply do not know what wm can do and the out-of-the-box difficulties that the wm software/hardware cohabitation compromises have historically imposed on the experience have kept them from looking deeper. Like arctic waters, the feel may at first be daunting, but journey beneath the surface of a well modded/tweaked/tuned wm device and you'll find that it is rich with life! my $.37.
[HD2 General] lynxboy:
I really don't want this thread to become a WinMo vs Android debate as there is already a thread discussing that issue! However as you may have gathered from the OP, I was a WinMo user for the best part of a decade so I guess I can claim to know what i'm talking about.

Regarding customisability, I used to mod the hell out of my WinMo device. I used to be ROM flashing junkie and it would be hard to go 2-3 days without a reflash, registry tweak or a new theme (clocks, status bars, icons etc.). It would be easy to look at Android from a far and think you would miss that but that is certainly not the case. Nearly all the skinning elements are there, if not improved upon. Rather than registry tweaks, I now flash new Kernels which allow me to overclock/underclock my processor to my requirements, boost audio volume and free up RAM etc. I can completely change the whole home screen interface the same way I used to with apps such as PointUI etc. and icon changes are a must if your a 'tweak geek' like myself.

If you are in any doubt, come lurk over at the Nexus Themes and Apps and Android Development section and take a gander at the fun we are having! :D

I personally do not class myself as a 'fanboy' however, being a previous long term user of WinMo, it pains me to see WinMo users who resent Android and see it as some kind of teenage toy filled with fart apps (some of the comments in this thread). I feel anyone who understands the 'spirit' of WinMo should welcome Android with open arms. It is a modern, OPEN OS with unrivalled functionality, an antithesis to all that is iPhone!! I myself was unflustered when originally 'playing' with the G1 but to see how far it has come in such a short timespan is nothing short of remarkable.

Anyway, the beauty of this thread and the continuing debate is that it is heavily influenced by opinion as always, however the facts are out there for anyone who wants to discover them for themselves.
[HD2 General] polo735:
There are still many reasons that I want windows mobile on my phone. I love having igo8 with full maps because I don't pay for a data plan. In general windows mobile is a complete near desktop replacement. Android is certainly "cool" because of the way it moves, the apps and the whole feel of it. There isn't much that I can do on android that I can't do on wm 6.x.
[HD2 General] dumbquestion:
Sorry, not my intention either.

I will certainly do more research and play with it as better builds become available before commenting again. Thanks for the reply.
[HD2 General] hazard99:
I will probably be making the switch

Not because I didnt enjoy parts of windows mobile or because it was to hard for me to figure out. My biggest problem was the skinning on the deeper portions of windows. While that might not seem very annoying to so it really bothers me.

For example.

I want to look at a picture sent to me through mms.

When I select the picture It is in the sense ui. It then switches to the windows based Mms ui which is really ugly.

That in a nutshell is my biggest problem

others that I have have been been handled .

btw this isnt a flame or a dig .. just my justification of why I prefer android on my hd2

And I started my smartphone ventures with a audiovox smt5600 which was freaking awesome for its time.
[Droid Incredible General] MidnighToker:
Does anyone have a stock ROM or nandroid recovery available? I was a complete idiot and didn't back mine up before I messed with root and got stuck in a bootloop. Now I am stuck using custom ROMs that are still in beta.
[Droid Incredible General] dspero:
You can grab one from incredibleroms dot com I believe.
[Droid Incredible General] MidnighToker:
I can't thank you enough!!!
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] antovolk:
MY FIRST THREAD

I downloaded the OTA .zip off another thread on here (thanks!), and I pulled the boot anim from it. With sound. :)

THIS HAS BEEN TESTED AND WORKING ON NEXUS ONE!!!

Download the .zip below!

To apply this, use the same method as the DROID X boot anim:

1. Unzip the file

2. Drag both into SDK/tools folder

3. Go into adb and push both files as follows:

adb push bootanimation.zip /data/local

adb push android_audio.mp3 /data/local

adb reboot

Should work on most Android devices!

Enjoy!

(Thanks drmbdrummer)
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] skaterA223:
BOOT

Boot not working. just gives Blank screen
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] zalez:
Don't forget to unzip the downloaded zip. Don't try to push the downloaded zip.
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] skaterA223:
Aw iknew I forgot something. thanks, but I feel like a complete newb now... any way thanks for letting me know
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] zalez:
No problem. Everyone zips them up differently :)
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] nmyeti:
Thanks for this, worked perfectly. At first I thought the sound didn't work, but turns out my profile was just set to vibrate. I guess that's a tip... If you don't want the reboot sound, just set to vibrate before turning off your phone.

This looks really good, only wish the LEDs on the eye would maintain their motion a little longer...
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] The_Law2:
Can I just download this ota and put them in the right spot using root explorer?
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] bpdesu156:
boot animation screen

Having problems getting new bootanimation.zip to work, having copied it into /data/local, system/media, system/customize/resource. tried all three areas and a no go. Anyone have a idea what im doing wrong, new to rooting and changing roms on android phones
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] whitedragon551:
Anyone have a preview?
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] mikeymop:
Ever boot your phone stock?
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] whitedragon551:
Lulz just realized this thread is older. :rolleyes:
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] izgil82:
hoah................
[Hero, G2 Touch General] asad510:
but i need it bassed on something or not if u dont want it
[Hero, G2 Touch General] 42turkeys:
It depends on weather its a proper Rom or if its just filepushing like your 'Cronos LightSpeed Supper Rom'

and weather you've learnt to spell...

On a more serious note, anyone can use WinZIP, we don't need someone to spam the forums doing it for us.

Please don't see this as anything against you, its just advice. :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] slimjimwoods:
Weather? That's whether I think ;)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] shokkapic:
"and weather you've learnt to spell..."

I laughed. :D

And don't ask us if you want a ROM. Just develop, ask for help, improve it before it's launched (do this sequence 3 or 4 times), then release, and be flooded with bugs.

That's how it works. :D

Also, if someone wants to be my tutor, I'd be very glad.

I'm thinking of starting ROM developing aswell. I don't know what to read first.

And please, don't post cyanogen sticky post link here. I've read it, but it has too much information and I don't know where to start.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] :
That seems too stupid. Maybe it was a joke?:p
[Hero, G2 Touch General] 42turkeys:
People are so bad at detecting sarcasm... :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] dkelley:
No thanks. Already have Ve 4.0. Perfect vanilla IMHO. Vb
[Hero, G2 Touch General] shokkapic:
I still want a tutor:

:rolleyes:
[Hero, G2 Touch General] djdavis:
ive just tried those sticky guides and the links dont work
[Hero, G2 Touch General] shokkapic:
How? They open fine to me.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Shakor:
Try asking Feeyo and elemag for help. They are very open to give information.

Feeyo in particularly is learning me a lot about how I can create an rom for myself from AOSP. Those 2 are not greedy nor being secretly about how they do things.

Cant say that from that other Team.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] tbrain:
I'm sorry but I've one question in my mind and I cant answer for it by my self: why someone buy a "sense/rosie" phone if he want a plain (vanilla) rom? Why that person doesn't buy a N1??
[Hero, G2 Touch General] whatsek:
Price perhaps?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Maharifu:
Well, price, I guess. And availability. The N1 wasn't available in my country, unless for an extremely unreasonable price.

Also, I think the N1 is not as sexy as the hero, or the desire... ;)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] MrPadie:
Wow - there's some 'bad-mood' users around here, ey? We all start somewhere, so give the guy a little slack.

Anyway, if you want my honest opinion, you will struggle in the Vanilla ROM world on these forums. VanillaEclair, aHero, EzHero, CyanogenMod....there are more then enough really good Vanilla ROM's. On the other hand, Cronos, Villain, ChocolateEclair, Kimera....there are also more then enough great Sense ROM's too. It's a tough area to enter into as there is a lot of competition, and I'm sure many users can agree that we have seen some really detrimental side effects of the competition.

So, back to my honest opinion - I don't think anybody wants another vanilla ROM, nor another Sense ROM, unless you have something great to bring to the party, in which case I suggest rather make a public thread with your 'great thing' so that it can be implemented into existing ROM's. At the same time, this is a developement forum, and new developements are obviously always welcome. So, if you have the patience (for bug reports and updates) and decency (to work with the other developers), by all means, bring out a new ROM. I for one will be happy to test and report.

Just my 2c.

Mr P.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] dkelley:
what I would suggest is you make the rom that YOU want to use. not pure vanilla, not pure stock sense, but the features you want most, including the (freely distributable) apps you want to include in the rom.

then you can always post it here in case others like it too.

I'd like to see a rom that doesn't include the standard apps but instead includes preinstalled the best free alternative calendar, widgets, launcher(pro...), alternative gallery, alternative camera, music player, app organizer, and so on.

something that is out of the box really really cool and setup for instant use (the way sense phones are setup from the factory, but using non-sense apps maybe).

that would be worth seeing here. it's been done but recently most popular roms are variations of the same thing and the competition is more about stability, performance, and working hardware. if you can base yours upon an already stable, fast and fully working hero rom (with permission from the authors), then customizing it and repackaging it could be really cool.
[Imagio General] MHimmelein:
Can anyone tell me how to turn off reminders in calendar as the default?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] imsochobo:
Helloes

Okey:

HTC Desire (nordic) retail.

Want Froyo, had my device for too long so already bored.

Rec. for rom if you desire to add that in, since i'm searching around to find the best out there. found a couple high rated.

Language:

Since my friends do talk norwegian i was wondering if i can get T9 language in norwegian, I really dont care about the UI since i dont use Norwegian UI language.

Make a backup image of the ROM which is scandinavian retail image, if it exist or is it possible to make one, searched around and cant say I got any smarter.

More isnt there to it. I am looking forward to unlocking my phone, getting rid of all the sense uselessness.
[G1 General] KokiYo:
Hi!

Not to long ago my g1 was acting up so I did a hard reset. I was taken back to the start, but had to use JesusFreke's guide to register it without a data plan. I had to get it back down to RC29 I believe that is what it is, to get it to work. (The starting android screen went from the word "Android" in blue to I think a white one with the little android guy standing next to it. So I assume there was a change.)

After all that the problems still persisted. Then my g1 updated itself. It now has trouble turning on. I got it to turn on and noticed that it went back to the original android starting screen. So I'm assuming it went back to what it was before. But it still has trouble turning on after it has been turned off.

So, I believe I am under warranty still with T-mobile. I know that messing with your phone could void the warranty. I just want to know if they will notice, seeing as it went back to it's original state, yet still messed up. It's not rooted or anything. I had just set it back to RC29, but then it updated and took it back to what it used to be. Will they notice? If there is even anything to notice? Or am I just being paranoid? Thanks in advance!
[G1 General] ilostchild:
if its not rooted, and it went back to orginal shipping rom your fine, as there is still some ppl that didnt update and still running it,
[Vibrant General] PolishDude:
I just put launcher pro beta on my Vibrant and really liked it except the icon for the contacts (the little guy head) shows application not installed. Any way to fix this?

Thanks
[Vibrant General] andymaidment:
Hold down the contact icon, this brings up the shortcut menu.

Select Applications > Contacts.

Next time you press it you will be given the icon option, select LauncherPro > Contacts.
[Hero CDMA General] ASimmons:
So I stopped by a friends house a couple of weeks ago and noticed he had a new phone... a Hero to be exact and since he noticed I had one also he asked if I could fix it to allow him on the market and sync with his google account.

So I checked the phone out and right away I noticed the phone was not stock and asked him where he got it... he replied Nextel. So I was really confused as this was the branded cdma sprint Hero and then checked the software and lo and behold I noticed then that the phone was rooted and had the Fresh rom installed....

long story short he's not a tech guy at all and didn't even understand what rooted or roms were and swore that nextel had hooked the phone up for him and told him they had todo some "specail" stuff to it to get it to work on there service... the gmail account was something like nextel1212121 at gmail and he had no password for it and no dataplan.

Is this legal for them todo? I just told him he needed to get the gmail pw from nextel or have them resetup to phone with his gmail account.
[Hero CDMA General] ipfreelytech:
really hes going to want to use his own gmail account. just do a wipe and configure it with his info.

i thought sprint owned nextel?
[Hero CDMA General] mrinehart93:
Sounds like whoever did that was trying to rip him off or something by getting his mail sent to their account.