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[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rohandhruva:
Thank you, I'll definitely look into it.

As you said, small world :) We'll be meeting soon enough, I guess! No worries, I've already found a person with whom I can switch. I am just wondering whether to go ahead or no. Since you're in the same area, could you tell me a bit about it? Is ATnT the dominant provider in the Troy/RPI area? Are you satisfied with ATnT?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ryanoption:
I have a Tmo N1 that I would like to trade for ATT.I have Tmo service but from the looks of it I'll never have any data but edge.Hit me up!ryanoption@gmail.com
[Desire General] rackspace:
Do you think that HTC Desire will get Android 3.0 (Gingerbread)

officially

? :confused:
[Desire General] AndroHero:
NO .........
[Desire General] GerooTech:
what about Nexus One, will it has the upgrade to Android 3 Officially
[Desire General] gogol:
No ...

And I won't tell you the reason.
[Desire General] AndroHero:
that depends if google decides to continue to support the n1, i can guarantee you htc wont support the desire after froyo tho
[Desire General] atomfix:
Then this is why we got custom roms. So I'm sure it will be ported some way.
[Desire General] mcgon1979:
yeah, HTC Desire will not support Gingerbread. Froyo will be the last Android update to Desire.

Gingerbread won't be out till January 2011 earliest. It will be a major change in UI and function over the Android 2.X strand. Desire would need 6 months to port it over. It also might not be easy to implement Sense UI on Gingerbread. Plus, new HTC phones will be due out in Q2 of 2011 I would guess, so Froyo will be last update on Desire.
[Desire General] rackspace:
Thats sad ....
[Desire General] pr0orz1337:
As far as Google said that Android 3.0 would make UI peronalizations remain needless, there is no need for HTC to port Sense UI, isn't?
[Desire General] Giland:
Well you will most likely still need the drivers from HTC for it to work.
[Desire General] atomfix:
Then use the drivers from Froyo to Gingerbread.

It would just be like using Windows Vista drivers on Windows 7....... Easy enough.
[Desire General] mcgon1979:
well, lets just wait 8 or 9 months and see :)
[Desire General] rackspace:
yes, that can be done.

but if gingerbread is not coming to desire, i may liquidate this mobile set before it gets too old and get a new one :p
[Desire General] MadMic:
"Will the Desire get Gingerbread"??? - from HTC, I doubt it...

from XDA - somehow I think it will... can you imagine it all those devs working away thinking "new OS to play with on my Desire, no thanks!"... lol
[Desire General] abc27:
Unfortunately, no it's not.
[Desire General] atomfix:
Then how is that?
[Desire General] pramitroy:
The only thing Desire lacks from hardware is the internal memory. HTC definitely should work for Gingerbread update on recent models like Desire HD/Desire Z. If thats done porting that to Desire will not be too difficult using A2SD. Yea for some drivers it will be problem. Still I hope xda-devs can do that in few months. As far as official support is concerned I guess Desire will get an update from HTC for either the new Sense UI (as heard from lot of rumors) or a delayed Gingerbread support with less functions or UI features etc. At least Gingerbread is not too heavy update on Froyo. So I guess the fortune of Desire is not too dull unless HTC decides to archive it.

I don't feel like liquidating this nice piece of hardware before Honycomb arrives.
[Desire General] madd0g:
It's been seen running on N1 via submitted AirBench test, so Desire users will get it from the N1 release.
[Desire General] ahmad598:
Hi

I just contacted htc support and asked them about the gingerbread. They replied me in this way:

With regards to your enquiry, Kindly note that all we have that gingerbread will be released,but we didn’t get specific information yet about the upgradeable device and regions as they are still testing the compatibility with all devices to decide the applicable devices.
[Desire General] Azurael:
Crikey... If HTC don't release 3.0 for the Desire, it'd be a pretty poor show... Being outdone by Apple?! After all, everything bar the iPhone 2G supports iOS4!
[Desire General] EddyOS:
3.0 isn't even Gingerbread!! 2.3 is...we'll probably get 2.3 but I doubt we'll get anything else (officially anyway)
[Desire General] HTC 123:
Hope we get gingerbread and new sense in an update but I reckon that will be the last official update
[Desire General] chichoko:
Let us get 2.3 with new Sense even if its the last update ill ever see on this beautiful phone... I already made a vow that Ill never again buy a smartphone thats not made by HTC.. if they release Ginger with Sense 2.0.. Ill sell my soul to them... in an instant..
[Desire General] gio_n_s:
yah 2.3 maybe the last update. but i dont know if sense 2.0 will be ported oficcially for desire o.O that would be awesome xD
[Desire General] gio_n_s:
this is an old post :) gingerbread was considered as 3.0 that time :)
[Desire General] thephantom35:
i hope desire gets it nexus one is worst than desire it gets why desire can't gets?

i hope google don't mess with us.

this is my first post i hope you are'nt kick me :P
[Desire General] alex5566:
thephantom35 you are banned !!
[Desire General] mr.r9:
It's too late I already banned him :p
[Desire General] DJ_Jedi:
I remember they said Desire will receive Sense 2.0 but without all the features, and I think the update to the new Sense will be with Gingerbread and it will be the last one to this phone (unfortunately :()
[Desire General] lilhaloshaka:
This news makes me a sad panda.
[Desire General] iLHaNroID:
Personally I am contended to accept if this is offered to me. We hv given many updates/upgrades by both Google and HTC thus far and Gingerbread with new Sense is expected already since Desire will fill its full year on coming March. Later, i can continue with it until my 24 months contract is over, even if no more updates provided by HTC (potential bug fixes are exceptions) as a result, in comparison to SE and SGS owners, we should deem ourselves lucky, personally I will be a loyal customer of HTC going forward at any rate.
[Desire General] remorema:
the phone is great running froyo. gingerbread will be more than enough for the next year.

Hope Htc releases OTA update soon
[Desire General] godutch:
One of the geen nice things about the iPhone you are sure to recieve updates and upgrades for at least the next 2 years.
[Desire General] -A-P-M-:
And you know when you will get an update. For example, Nexus One owners still don't know exactly when they will get Gingerbread.
[Desire General] godutch:
sometimes htc keyboard really churns out some gibberish: "'One of the geen nice"

what was I trying to say there, what's a "geen" :D we really do need an update
[Desire General] marinierb:
But they WILL. It's been announced.

As for HTC making ROMs for older phones, I doubt it. Thank goodness for the folks over here.
[Desire General] -A-P-M-:
I guess Desire will get Gingerbread, like HTC Legend recieved Froyo. But I don't think it will be anytime soon - I guess at that time I won't have Desire anymore.

Yes, Nexus One owners will get Gingerbread. But IMO Apple got much better policy about updates - you know your phone will be supported for 2 years and you know exactly when you will get an update.
[Desire General] Lothaen:
even if you don't want it :P
[Desire General] jimlad:
What's the point in a fixed date? Ok you get an update every year well woppiefuckingdoo! What's in it... you don't care, just as long as you get it at the same time every year... that makes sense, not!

Funny enough I have an update today its maybe the forth since I owned the phone, I guess some IPhone lover will now say that's too many too often :rolleyes:
[Desire General] Lothaen:
I've applied my fourth OTA update today too - while my other half's iPhone has been notified of 3 updates and refused them all - it's a 3GS and as of yet everyone seems to say if you update to ver 4 of iOS it slows down the 3GS more than keeping the vers 3 firmware... so why would you want to update it? :)

On the other hand I haven't refused any OTA updates yet as they only seem to speed/improve things :)
[Desire General] nodiaque:
Let's buy a new phone for 600$ and have update for 1 year, after, if you want update, by another new phone for 600$? After that, people are saying microsoft licensing cost a bunch, when you can get a copy of windows of 100$ and updates for at least 5 years (And support too). This is stupid. HTC should concentrate on building better fewer phone with longer time support.
[Desire General] Lothaen:
HTC claimed they want to make lots of varieties of phones to meet the needs of everyone... in terms of laptops for example, the same OS goes on to a 12", 14", 15", and more...

I guess they want to apply the same sort of logic - you can get a Desire, Desire HD, Desire Z (just as an example) with the same/similar OS features etc. with slight differences, bigger screen, keyboard etc. (they just need to update sense on Desire!!)

why would they make fewer phones that only fit to a certain type of person - they'll lose customers that way... I can see why they want to push out lots of different phones - but it would be nice to keep them updated - and with them keeping Legend up to date surely that's a step in the right direction :)
[Desire General] androkola:
we want more updates

I hope HTC updates the desire, and they should focus more on updates, especially for the high-end phones.
[Desire General] The Tjalian:
The Desire, in theory, should get Gingerbread (2.3). When we will though, however, is another question altogether. I'm guessing around March time for most Desire users (which means May for O2 Desire users :rolleyes:).

The Desire getting 3.0 unofficially is very much unlikely. 3.0 is still in the development stage and probably won't be released for another few months yet at least. Considering it's designed for tablets more specifically; an outdated, smaller (by comparison), weaker phone like the Desire may not even be able to handle the 3.0 update never mind whether it'll actually get the update.

Remember, the Desire will be a year old in February and the Snapdragon inside the Desire is already 2 years old. There's a myriad of faster, better, cooler chips out there now that are already in tablets and smartphones that hands down beat the Desire cycle-for-cycle.

The Desire is a great phone, but it's reaching it's limitations and those will be displayed quite badly with the release of 3.0. So... yeah, I wouldn't hold your breath on a 3.0 update.
[Desire General] iLHaNroID:
totally agree... we will presumably, hopefully and finally get gingerbread and/or the new Sense, and these are gonna be the last major updates to our beloved Desires. Later? it is then time to buy new Desire-2 (early 2012)... (my contract expires in those days :)
[Desire General] Mad_Duke:
Hi!

Sorry, but your logic is totally flawed. Newer phones may have cooler CPUs in 45nm opposed to 65nm etc but basically they are the same as Desire (minus the GPU which is irrelevant except for 3D performance...)

Also, the screen resolution is the same on newer phones as it is on Desire. (This is probably THE MOST important thing concerning app developement etc.)

Desire-HD just came out and it should get updated at least for a year and because of similar HW that should mean that our Desire should be getting the same treatment. Hopefully official also, but I don't see a hardware obstacle concerning the unofficial developement.

Next step-up will be the dual core CPUs together with higher resolution ~WXGA?? screens and that will not be happening for at least until 3.0 comes out. We will probably be seeing first the regular 480x800 screens paired with newer "other" hardware (like Optimus X2) before the switch to higher resolution.
[Desire General] claudioita:
I so much agree with you. This is getting crazy: buy a new phone for 600 (PLUS) every year
[Desire General] sandi052:
I'm sure 3.0 will be released...

why? because HTC take care of their devices... look to the magic...
[Desire General] imagini:
Mostly a YES. Why? Because the LG Optimus One, being a low-end phone in terms of specs, will be getting one. When Lg will, don't you think HTC will too?
[Desire General] kamelot.sk:
Desire didn't get update to 2.2.1 (and Desire HD had an update )>> I think it won't get official 2.3 as well :)

(ant btw. this thread should be renamed - 2.3 instead of 3.0)
[Desire General] rayiskon:
duo core CPUs already here,adding to that 1GB RAM and high resolution watch?v=2gfCdhVhc4I (check this vid on youtube,i'm new so i can't post links till my 8th post )

Quote: kamelot.sk : Desire didn't get update to 2.2.1 (and Desire HD had an update )>> I think it won't get official 2.3 as well

in December 2010 within a few days i got 2 consecutive updates for my desire (not desire HD!) the first was (from 2.2) to 2.29.405.1 the second 3-4 days later to 2.29.405.5. it said the first was a market update (although it was a pack of 25mb?!), the second was a system update. i consider it to be a kind of preparation for Gingerbread 2.3 which i'm expecting around Feb/March.

p.s. i'm from Croatia, so i don't see a reason y u guys in Slovakia shouldn't get an update ;)
[Desire General] MasterBratac:
I think the Desire can't get an update to 3.0 because Google said you will need an ARM 9 CPU to run it. Desire has an ARM 7. But may be an update to 2.3
[Desire General] hannemaster:
HTC: "Yea we like to be unclear so yall can guess about updates at forums."

That was a firmware update. It takes care of some hardware/performance issues. The only thing these two devices(Desire, Desire HD) have in common is the name.

The only thing that bothers me is that they announce Gingerbread like 10.000 BC and will update OTA somewhere in 2060... and why be unclear? yea "the update will come to "some" devices..." *rAAAGGh!!! (BloodRage)* Just tell us: These phones will get the update between 2011-01 and 2011-03: Desire, Desire HD, Nexus etc.. wtf(excuse my language) is wrong with these people???
[Desire General] tadder:
2.2 for USCC

i JUST (today) got an email back from USCC support (not that it means anything...), here is an excerpt:

"We're working with Samsung, HTC and LG to provide Froyo (Android 2.2) upgrades for all of our Android-powered phones. The Acclaim upgrade will be available by the end of next week, and customers with the Desire will be able to upgrade their device by the end of this month. The Apex and Mesmerize will be ready for upgrades around March. Download details will be coming next week. "

take from that what you will... i know USCC has been saying that for quite some time, but just thought i'd share...

as far as 2.3, i don't think i'd expect it anytime in the near future...
[Desire General] mug318ca:
There is no hard CPU requirement. There is a hardware recommendation.
[Desire General] herghost:
yup, 18 months to admit their is a fault, 5 months 30days of trying to fix the fault, release new handset with same fault :P
[Desire General] O Sophos:
I'm just hoping sense will be in gingerbread for desire, if there will even be an update for desire. Yeahh, internal memory too small.
[Desire General] owziee:
I can't see why Gingerbread is so important for some people... Seriously it's mostly a UI overhaul and Sense on the Desire still looks miles better imo :)

We already got the JIT compiler in froyo so our devices are more or less maxed out performance wise already. So what's the point?
[Desire General] PulpzillA:
There's always room for improvements otherwise they wouldn't be releasing new versions! maybe not the massive leap in performance from 2.1 to 2.2 but improvements nevertheless!
[Desire General] dk_zero-cool:
The only people who would say that, is the once that knows nothing about 2.3. I have been running the oxygen ROM for over a month now, and even in its RC state, it kicks 2.2's ass, and not just because of some UI changes. I'm really looking forward to the Nexus one OTA @ Oxygen merge.
[Desire General] EddyOS:
My 2p:

We might get 2.3 (Gingerbread), we will NOT get 3.0 (Honeycomb) - not officially, anyway
[Desire General] Lothaen:
We are more likely to get 2.4/3.1 (Ice Cream) - as 3.0 Honeycomb is a Tablet OS and apparently requires Dual Core....

Gingerbread I think/hope will come eventually...
[Desire General] EddyOS:
Good point!!
[Desire General] dk_zero-cool:
3.0 is not a tablet OS. It's made to also work on tablet by adjusting it self to the type of device It's installed to.
[Desire General] Lothaen:
I asked them about the following:

1. 2.3 update for Desire,

2. htcsense.com for Desire,

3. HTC Mail app working with Hotmail EAS...

Not sure they got I was asking if HTCSense.com would come for Desire - i think they took it that I was having problems - i.e. a Desire HD user or something..

Also that I pointed out that since hotmail EAS was supported with android via apps like stock mail and Improved email, there's been two OTA updates to Desire which hasn't fixed the HTC Mail app working with it... still shows 'unable to create account'
[Desire General] owziee:
Do you have any proof that 2.3 runs any faster on the Desire... Any benchmark? And what about 3D performance... Have they made any driver improvements?

Also any rom without sense will obviously run a bit faster.
[Desire General] mrjonnyrock:
If Android 2.3 will not be released for the HTC Desire it will be the last HTC device i ever buy, or recommend to anyone. I will actively discourage people from buying any Android device. It also means that the Android OS is a scam. These devices are not cheap and to only get a version of an OS, which is continually being upgrade to include fixes, updates and improvement that the hardware can support, is a load of crap.

The Desire should be more than capable of running Android 2.3. Someone just does not want to spend the money to get it out for the HTC Desire which is unacceptable really.

If this is 100% confirmed my HTC Desire will be on ebay by the end of the weekend and the Android table i was looking at getting will now be an iPad. And I will wait for the new iPad.

AND NO I AM NOT AN APPLE FAN BOY. The last apple I had was an Apple IIe. So I have not owned an Apple device in a long time and have never really want to either, but its Apple or Andriod, in the mobile phone and tablet PC market atm.

If I am not mistaken a 2/2 and a half year old iPhone and still run the current OS. There is no reason at all for the HTC Desire not to get the latest OS from Google that I know of.

If you can do this h t t p ://an.droid-life.com/2010/12/02/wow-on-your-android-phone-courtesy-of-gamestring with an HTC Desire, you can run an upto date version of the Google OS on it. Google, kick the handset makers up the butt and get them to support their devices or you both may end up loosing customers.
[Desire General] SilverHedgehog:
Considering that Desire HD will totally get 2.3, and that this community successfully ported both DHD and 2.3 roms working almost flawlessly, I'd say we will totally have Gingerbread Sense on our Desires.

If DHD doesn't get Gingerbread, though, I'm buying an iPhone.
[Desire General] mr.r9:
Hmmm....If you want official updates, stick with the Nexus range. It's easy bro. No manufacturer updates their phones regularly. None.
[Desire General] Azurael:
Hmm, I tried 2.3 for a few weeks in a variety of forms and found it a) unstable and b) choppy/slow graphically compared to AOSP/Sense/HD 2.2 ROMs, even if app launches and overall performance are a little better. Personally I think that while the UI feels a whole lot less haphazard/more logical than previous AOSP ROMs, its pretty ugly - certainly not a pretty as Sense HD/MIUI. I did like the sleep/wake animation but that was about it. Personally, I'm now running MIUI, and its very smooth, very fast, and I'm totally pleased with it :)

But ROMs are a matter of taste anyway. Just don't assume that because somebody doesn't like 2.3 as it stands, they're somehow ignorant as you suggest.
[Desire General] _Dennis_:
Hum, well you are wrong about the iPhone, iPhone 2G does not run 4.0, iPhone 3G does not run 4.2, iPhone 3GS runs 4.2 but not well. HTC was very quick to update their 2.1 phones to 2.2. Google comes out with updates every ~6 months. This can cause trouble if the manufacture needs to update software (HTC Sense, MotoBlur, etc.) for the phones. Plus Desire has "old" sense where 2.3 will have "new" sense so I can see them not officially updating. Should they? Yes. Must they? No. When you bought the phone you were NEVER promised 2.3, 2.4, 3.0, or any other update. Really its not hard to root and install a custom ROM if you really need the update.
[Desire General] psycho.ro:
pretty sure desire has enough power to run 2.3
[Desire General] _Dennis_:
Powerful enough, most likely. But will HTC put the man hours and the cash into making a ROM for it? I don't know, seeing how the memory is to low to use the same Sense they put in the newer phones.
[Desire General] mrjonnyrock:
yeah, i think i am just a bit pissed because my Desire needs to back to the shop. It gets very hot and reboots randomly. Sometimes i can use it with no issues and other times not.

It started about 5 months after i got the phone. I was using the GPS, which I had been doing almost every day since i got the phone, for track my running and then as a satnav.

its originally why I rooted the phone and installed custom ROMs so that i could play around with the CPU speed, as i thought that that could have been the problem. Ran the phone at 500Mhz for a few days but still had the issue of the phone getting very hot and rebooting even just doing simple things like browsing the net, no video streaming.

Its now 2 months later and its getting worse. Also my battery life has suddenly gone mad. I have 2 extended batteries that now only last 12/14 hours even if the phone is doing very little. I used to be able to play games, like angry birds, watch a movie or play music and browse the internet and they would last more then 24 hours.

I used ( RUU_Bravo_Froyo_Vodafone_UK_2.33.161.2_Radio_32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27_release_157522_signed.exe ) to get the phone back to a stock UK Vodafone phone.

If only I could get a Desire HD :cool: *sigh

I have to say some of the guys here have done some damn good work with the ROMs :D thx!!!!
[Desire General] ddic:
Android 2.3 is running very well on HTC Desire. I have tried some custom Gingerbread ROMs and everything was moving very fast and smoth, even better than Android 2.2 with Sense. :)
[Desire General] stranger_4u:
so its officially out (Android 2.3) for HTC Desire? I taught they are still working on it.

Sorry but i am new to android or htc releases.
[Desire General] Rage1ofakind:
Its out as a beta version. We will get a stable release when 2.3 comes out officially on the Nexus one, which will be in the next few weeks :)
[Desire General] ddic:
No! It is not official released by HTC for Desire. There are some AOSP releases - check Desire Android Development area for more info.
[Desire General] hejhej.ac:
Don't think Desire will get 3.0 from HTC, but hopefully there will be a custom rom with it.
[Desire General] led-zeppalike:
I saw an advert on TV yesterday (in England) for the Desire HD. At the end of the advert it said 'Part of the Desire range' or something along those lines, and showed a Desire and a Desire Z alongside the HD.

I find it strange that HTC are still advertising the original Desire (that's almost a year old now) as being in the same range as the Z and HD if they are not planning on upgrading the software to the same version as the other two members.

Edit: I've found a german version of a similar ad on youtube, it's right at the end

Edit 2: Can't post links, it's at youtube /watch?v=Fjtif7ZkiW0
[Desire General] doctormetal:
Here in the netherlands I see advertising about the Desire series and all three phones separately. In December or November the new Desire (white edition?) was release. Same hardware as the original slcd Desire. It would be strange if support is already dropped for this model.