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[EVO 4G General] kennyc1:
That has been brought up. Better idea would be to autodetect hdmi and swith it accordingly.

That has been brought up as well.
[EVO 4G General] Minjin:
I was thinking about world hunger recently. I think all we have to do is make more food and give it to all the hungry people in the world? Just an idea. What do you guys think?
[EVO 4G General] kennyc1:
wrong forum.
[EVO 4G General] netarchy:
I prefer the late Sam Kinison's solution: make the starving people move to WHERE THE FOOD IS! ;D
[EVO 4G General] kthejoker20:
My butthole itches....:eek:
[Vibrant Android Development] gothdroid:
Thinking about making a port of either Clockwork Mod or sprecovery which would the vibrant community rather have?
[Vibrant Android Development] speedysilwady:
i never tried sprecovery. i dont like clockwork much...im used to Amon_RA recovery which has so many options and partitions your sdcard for you, if thats even needed for this device
[Vibrant Android Development] lp1527:
Amon_RA would be INCREDIBLE!!!!!!!
[Vibrant Android Development] gothdroid:
The problem with Amon_RA recovery is that it isn't open source and I can't just download the source code.
[Vibrant Android Development] lp1527:
I see... well I'd be happy (and very appreciative) with ANY custom recovery! Which do you prefer?
[Vibrant Android Development] blackerwater:
Clockwork :)

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[Vibrant Android Development] MINUS Stl:
I'd agree with the others on Amon_Ra, but I understand it's probably not going to happen. Wasn't a fan of Clockwork, but would be able to live with it. :)
[Vibrant Android Development] antonio91282:
i would like to see amon ras recovvery also. im going to ask him if he wouldnt mind givng it to you so you could port it to the vibrant...
[Vibrant Android Development] bahnburner:
I'd even be happy with the old school Cyan recovery, but clockwork would be awesome. I just need some nandroid access.
[Vibrant Android Development] bessertier:
Clockwork is the only one I'm familiar with... What's the diffs?... Lol, never mind, I'm google-ing it, I'll edit my post if my choice changes

On a Vibrant, using this app-thingy
[Vibrant Android Development] speedysilwady:
yeah it cant hurt to ask him if he'll let you port it. but whats sprecovery? does anyone think its better than clockwork?
[Vibrant Android Development] rdude:
Personally I like Clockwork's ability to flash unsigned packages.
[Vibrant Android Development] gothdroid:
sp is the basic recovery that you flash, at least I did, when you first start customizing the Droid, and since that is what I came from to the Vibrant that and Clockwork are the only two I know. Haven't used amon so I don't know how it works. I downloaded the source code for Clockwork, now all I need to do is import the proper drivers, and re-write a little bit and I should be able to flash it via adb before the night is over.
[Vibrant Android Development] The_Chrome_Coyote:
Amon_Ra if he lets you, otherwise clockwork
[Vibrant Android Development] gothdroid:
Just so everyone knows, I sent Amon_RA a PM on here asking for the source code for the recovery.
[Vibrant Android Development] speedysilwady:
awesome bro, regardless of which recovery you port, thank you so much for your contribution! =]
[Vibrant Android Development] here.david:
YES

Thank you! Going to be great to backup again...
[Vibrant Android Development] moosefist:
http://github.com/AmonRA I would send him a request on github or on http://twitter.com/Amon_RA
[Vibrant Android Development] blackerwater:
How Many partitions does this phone have? You might get it to work but sticking is another problem

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[Vibrant Android Development] jayzusfk:
I do prefer Amon's but that's mostly because of the amount of options and that I've mostly used D/S. I can't imagine it being too difficult to port over much of the extras that AR offers to CWM, or vice versa.

It would be nice to have one recovery to rule them all. =)
[Vibrant Android Development] Altephore:
I used Amon_Ra's recovery on my G1 and loved it the most. Most options. Otherwise, ClockworkMod.

I also sent Amon_Ra a couple tweets about the Vibrant.
[Vibrant Android Development] bahnburner:
# busybox df -h
Filesystem Size Used Available Use% Mounted on
tmpfs 162.8M 0 162.8M 0% /dev
df: /mnt/.lfs: Function not implemented
tmpfs 4.0M 12.0K 4.0M 0% /sqlite_stmt_journals
/dev/block/stl9 275.8M 257.9M 17.9M 94% /system
/dev/block/mmcblk0p2 1.9G 353.8M 1.5G 18% /data
/dev/block/mmcblk0p3 255.8M 72.8M 182.9M 28% /data_tmo
/dev/block/stl10 127.2M 16.9M 110.3M 13% /dbdata
/dev/block/stl11 30.1M 5.8M 24.2M 19% /cache
/dev/block/stl3 5.9M 4.0M 1.9M 68% /efs
/dev/block//vold/179:1
13.2G 3.4G 9.7G 26% /sdcard
/dev/block//vold/179:9
1.9G 2.1M 1.9G 0% /sdcard/sd
#

There's all your partitions. Seems to be set up a bit different than the Dream/Sapphire.
[Vibrant Android Development] sombionix:
If we can't have amon_ra, then definitely clockwork.
[Vibrant Android Development] OolonColuphid:
Either Amon_RA or Clockwork. Just so long as it has nandroid backup/restore
[Vibrant Android Development] HoOnZ:
I would love to have Amon_RA myself! :)
[Vibrant Android Development] s15274n:
Amon is the only recovery that I would want. He is awesome,i bet he hooks us up.
[Vibrant Android Development] MS_Guru:
Amon_RA all the way. The only true recovery. Don't take this the wrong way, but Clockwork seems to be for the meek. Its a great tool with some "neat" features. But Amon_RA made my G1 almost brick proof.
[Vibrant Android Development] Greenarcher707:
Never tried Clockwork, does it have options for sd card partition?
[Vibrant Android Development] dattas:
Amon_RA would be my preference as well
[Vibrant Android Development] Gr8gorilla:
I love Amon-RA as well but since he will no longer be supporting his recovery image I think you should go with clockwork. If CM 6 gets ported over to the Vibrant and maintained by team douche then the roms will be available on clockwork. Maybe you should send Koush a pm, he may be willing to work with you to get it ported. Since he as an app tied to it in the market!
[Vibrant Android Development] blackerwater:
clockwork may not have better eye candy but the ability to flash unsigned packages from a developers standpoint makes it better.

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[Vibrant Android Development] oDeACoNo:
I've only used Amon_RA, and JF's original. But honestly any of them will do as long as we get one. Looks and every additional feature isn't as needed at this point as is the ability to run NANDROID Backups, and Flash Custom ROMs. At this point we need the meat, the potatoes and gravy will come in time.
[Vibrant Android Development] skater4690:
i would love amon ra but clockwork will do cant wait t=for this going to go get the vibrant in a couple hours!!!
[Vibrant Android Development] youneek:
Clockwork would be the best for now. Its the most user friendly for noobs, there's lots of support from the developer and you can flash unsigned roms. I use it to flash the cyanogen nightly bulks on my nexus one which is a huge time saver. Since amon isn't going to be developing his version anymore, clockwork also makes the most sense. It had almost all the same features anyway...
[Vibrant Android Development] hpz937:
I gues i'd just be happy w/ any recovery as long as i can do nandroid backups and easily flash updates
[Vibrant Android Development] skater4690:
well it seems that he should stick with trying to port clockwork since he can get the source for it and its still receiving updates so i would say the choice is clear clockwork recovery but whats the word on any development for the recovery image i think after a couple pages it would be easier to pick a recovery image to port and i would say do the one you can that would be easiest and able to do now...
[Vibrant Android Development] oDeACoNo:
Check here for Amon_RA Source http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=728409

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[Vibrant Android Development] al74:
Seems that Kosh is working on a recovery for the Galaxy S:

http://twitter.com/clockworkmod
[Vibrant Android Development] TGA_Gunnman:
Amon_RA for sure!

Amon_RA's recovery is what I would prefer.
[Vibrant Android Development] Xyber3364:
hmm

never tried clock-work, used and loved amon-ra the one that cyano gen has/had and did jf originaly for g1 have one? I ll take anything that can flash and nandroid, partitioning and extra features like battery stats wipe is nice too. Can you fastboot send? I thought samsung was a pain about flashing images?

*Although the root method was cake
[Vibrant Android Development] kizer:
I've personally used the heck out of RA's and the Bart utility giving you not only Nandroid, but all of your apps too. Of course this phone works a bit differently.
[Vibrant Android Development] robotfactory:
Koush is looking for someone to send him a recovery partition from a rooted Galaxy S. Anyone got one handy for him?
[Vibrant Android Development] gordon.mott:
Link me to a howto and I shall provide! :)
[Vibrant Android Development] zenlakin:
I would be interested in knowing how to provide the partition information so that I could assist more in the future.
[Vibrant Android Development] Gr8gorilla:
clockworkmod

Just got a rough recovery loaded onto the Samsung Galaxy S. Gonna need to tweak it to work on this phone. It's pretty different.

From clockwork a few minutes ago!
[Vibrant Android Development] rhcp011235:
Word up to clockworkmod.

Fast!
[Vibrant Android Development] Flak_Munky:
Amon all the way for recovery.
[Vibrant Android Development] blackjackboy:
I figure I'm gonna get flamed for asking, but it can't hurt, can it? Here goes: Are Vibrant and Captivate recoveries interchangeable?
[Vibrant Android Development] skater4690:
any progress on this?
[Vibrant Android Development] chaoscentral:
honestly, most likely. what exactly is different between the 2 phones other than the outer shells?
[Vibrant Android Development] degeneration:
The only thought that comes to mind is the international version has a home key, and that seems to change how the phone sees all the keys (it will invert the volume keys and do something weird to the power key).

My point being, technically, but hopefully unlikely, everything is the same, but the slight redesign in shape might have made them change it up a bit (or maybe for fun, or maybe to keep the phones from being pretty interchangeable to make more money) that the hardware is programmed ever so slightly different, but I would think that worst case scenario there is probably a way to make all the recoveries work on all the phones with minimal effort.

I am just the cynical type I guess, but what I am trying to get through is even worst case scenario I doubt it will matter much...
[Vibrant Android Development] nick_karstedt:
Shouldn't matter if the devs decide to use the same keys as the stock recovery (Volume keys and power, which works great imo)
[Vibrant Android Development] degeneration:
Well what I am saying was the hardware was different inside the US and International version (well for the vibrant specifically) and so when I hit the volume up key, it turned the volume down. I would think that since no buttons seem to be changed externally for the captive and vibrant they wouldn't take the time to change them, but you never know.
[Vibrant Android Development] ryan562:
my vote would also be amon_ra. been using his recovery on both my g1 and mytouch. perhaps we can forward this thread link to his twitter to show how much interest we have in his work.
[Vibrant Android Development] rsfaze:
I wish people would get out of the 80's

I used Amon for a very long time and it was great but clockwork offers SO much more..

and since the dev who created clockwork Koush is here trying to make this happen.

All of you chanting amon.. I sure don't see him here trying to help get this done.
[Vibrant Android Development] junkdruggler:
Bring back jf!!

Haha

I use cyan on my g1 still because I like to type my own scripts by hand

Why not be creative and do something new... Just use the same scripting and locations as cwm
[Vibrant Android Development] XfooYen:
Oh, goddammit that's what she said.

...and I don't care which recovery as long as I can flash and do nandroid backup.
[Vibrant Android Development] chucky80:
clockwork.....get rom manager from market and it will install i will falsh the recovery for you.
[Vibrant Android Development] rsfaze:
are you saying clockwork is supported on the Vibrant now by this post?

going to checking clockwork twitter page now...

edit.. nothing from clockworkmod aside from he has a rough recovery running but still has some work to do on it...
[Vibrant Android Development] kronos82:
I installed Rom Manager Figuring it would come out on that sooner then later and I paid for it so why not install it I own it.......anyways just checked no ROM for vibrant on clockwork, but from the sounds of it people are hard at work, wish I had the time to lend a hand. Keep up the work you cleaver cleaver developers
[Vibrant Android Development] sombionix:
This is from Koush's twitter page. Great news! I'm very partial to amon_ra myself, but at least we'll have a recovery coming soon it looks like.

Just got a rough recovery loaded onto the Samsung Galaxy S. Gonna need to tweak it to work on this phone. It's pretty different. 9:24 PM Jul 17th via Tweetie for Mac
[Vibrant Android Development] offensive:
Hopefully we can get a working amon_ra on the Vibrant soon.
[Vibrant Android Development] skater4690:
cant wait for this recovery cause i think once we have that roms will start being ported over which is great cause im not really liking the touchwiz ui i hate the similarities to the iphone...
[Vibrant Android Development] DaxM:
This is getting good! Coming from a G1 with Amon_ra, i'm familiar with that, i'll take anything though on my Vibrant. This thing just begs to be fixed (GPS, compass, lag, etc...), can't wait!
[Vibrant Android Development] skater4690:
you can fix all those problems you just said yourself there are a couple threads about those jus fyi:p
[Vibrant Android Development] DaxM:
Yeah, i've read all of the fixes, i'm just referring mainly to a full rom with fixes, minus t-mo's bundled apps, etc.
[Vibrant Android Development] skater4690:
yeah that would be very nice or a new rom completely since the touchwiz ui has so many minor imperfections...
[Vibrant Android Development] zDisturbed1:
Then dont use twLauncher get awd, or home++, or sweeter home or...... I dont like twLauncher at all but even I am tired of hearing about how much like the iphone it is android is open source if you dont like something change it you dont need a new rom to get a new homescreen and the rest of the galaxy s touchwiz stuff is pretty sweet like the phone app I love and i really love the samsung keyboard
[Vibrant Android Development] skater4690:
i know but if i use adw then i cant use the samsung widgets well i only like the friendstream type widget and all the other things i have no problem i love the phone app
[Vibrant Android Development] brie987:
Amon_RA would be fantastic but I agree with the above any would be appreciated :p
[Vibrant Android Development] sombionix:
More than likely tmo apps won't be included in MOST roms, although I'm sure some will have them. You can always remove them manually, however. Very easy to do.
[Vibrant Android Development] kusotare:
Koush just posted this on twitter:

http://yfrog.com/n3ruyj

Yes, thats a captivate, which is the exact same thing as the vibrant, for the unschooled.
[Vibrant Android Development] chaoscentral:
well I was talking about between the Captivate and the Vibrant, the keys are all the same, and only the outer shell has changed. I know the International version is a bit different in its keys, so I wasn't expecting it to interchange with that lol :D
[Vibrant Android Development] s73v3r:
So I hope someone who's familiar with the other Samsung phones is working on this. From what I can tell, the filesystem devices are similar to the other Samsung phones (original Galaxy, Behold II), and as such, the bootloader and recovery are actually backed up on redundant partitions. To make matters worse, they are also not labeled as clearly as they are on other Android phones, like the G1.

Anyone know in which IRC channel the guys working on this are hanging out? I'd like to join them and help out.
[Vibrant Android Development] DAKIDD236:
wow, they have a recovery on the captivate and the vibrant was out a almost a week before. :mad:
[Vibrant Android Development] zenlakin:
Since the phones are identical would that recovery work for the Vibrant??
[Vibrant Android Development] tissimo:
I'd say 99.9% chance that itll work. If not very minor reprogramming of the recovery image (device name edit or something?)
[Vibrant Android Development] cashless:
Koushik just stated on his twitter that the recovery would be for all Galaxy S models.

Also, apparently he's on the last step of completing the recovery.
[Vibrant Android Development] nick_karstedt:
Great success
[Vibrant Android Development] kusotare:
Or it could be because Koush HAS a captivate and not a vibrant. Try being a little grateful for the stuff people are making to improve your phone.
[Vibrant Android Development] ram100987:
coming from a G1 with amon_ra and CM6 I add a vote for Amon_ra if it's possible, but so far it doesn't look like it's happenin
[Vibrant Android Development] bchalk:
The source from amon_ra is posted, go get to work :shrug:

Clockwork is great though imho.
[Vibrant Android Development] kusotare:
From twitter:

@clockworkmod: Time to go home and hopefully not brick this Galaxy S. Recovery is ready.
[Vibrant Android Development] rsfaze:
per twitter ...5 mins ago

clockworkmod

Time to go home and hopefully not brick this Galaxy S. Recovery is ready.
[Vibrant Android Development] cashless:
Hey guys, guess whaaaaaat?!
[Vibrant Android Development] rsfaze:
3 posts at the same time.. no wonder it was locking up :cool:
[Vibrant Android Development] kusotare:
but I got it first, therefore I win. :D

kidding aside, it is very cool that so many people are on the ball with this.
[Vibrant Android Development] skater4690:
so whats up with the recovery image??? i would think that it would of been released for the captive since there was only a couple finishing touches for it... i was also in the captive area and i stumbled upon a thread where someone with a captive put our Vibrant rom on their phone and it seemed to work for them just throwing that bit of info out there
[Vibrant Android Development] kusotare:
koush only talked about having the recovery done 4 hours ago. he also said he was going to go home and test some things before releasing it. relax.

and yes, it makes sense that the vibrant rom would work on the captivate seeing as they're the same device with different shells.
[Vibrant Android Development] drewtang:
Koush also confirmed via twitter that it will work for "*all* galaxy s devices"
[Vibrant Android Development] gothdroid:
Just wanted to stop in here quickly and let everyone know I am alive. Work so far this week has been kicking my arse so I haven't had much time to dev for the Vibrant this week. Hoping to be able to get on it tomorrow or Thursday a little bit.
[Vibrant Android Development] sxfx:
@clockworkmod: Hello nandroid http://yfrog.com/6b6knj

Woot woot :-]
[Vibrant Android Development] dmtaub:
Koush just confirmed via Twitter recovery is done. Hopefully posting in the next 24 hours!
[Vibrant Android Development] cashless:
Looks like Clockwork recovery will be up by tomorrow. Maybe you can look at that Amon-Ra Source getting ported over for the people that prefer it? Just my 0.02...
[Vibrant Android Development] Flak_Munky:
I would be very appreciative of anyone who ports Amon-Ra over.
[Vibrant Android Development] rsfaze:
question since no one has stated why they like Amon-Ra over Clockwork.

What does Amon-Ra do that Clockwork doesn't?

I love the fact that clockwork will let you explore folders on your sd card, where Amon-RA only looks at the root and won't let you see any folders.
[Vibrant Android Development] tissimo:
Probably its what they're used to I guess.
[Vibrant Android Development] sombionix:
Overall Amon_Ra is cleaner. It has a simple interface that does all the dirty work. Amon is pretty much the originator of the custom recovery.

Clockwork is fine and at this point I'll take what I can get, no complaints. However, clockwork has been known not to wipe things completely, often times leaving bugs after wiping and flashing new roms.

Also, those folders you can explore through clockwork are only folders that are within the clockwork folder created on your sdcard after you install rom manager. In my opinion, there's really no point to having them. When you're flashing files such as custom roms, spl's, radio's, themes, etc., through the recovery, generally they're going to be in a ZIP format. For that reason, it's not necessary to see other file formats within amon_ra's recovery.
[Vibrant Android Development] elopez2808:
Yeah I've always preferred Amon-Ra over clockwork mod. Clockwork never could restore nandroids for me... I always had to go and restore each thing one at a time... cache, dalvick so on and so forth.
[Vibrant Android Development] Mr_Tricorder:
Also, whenever you're about to make some sort of change to your phone through Amon_RA, it prompts you to confirm or cancel. This has saved my butt more than once since it can be easy to accidentally select the wrong thing (especially when you're using the trackball on a G1). The last time I tried Clockwork Recovery, you selected an option and it immediately started, making it way to easily to accidentally wipe or flash the wrong file. I don't know if this has been changed in newer versions though.
[Vibrant Android Development] youneek:
I think the people that don't prefer clockwork haven't used it in awhile. You now have to confirm using an even less risky way, nandroid backups work, you can browse any folder, you can flash unsigned roms and much more. I really like both but clockwork at least has a developer that is very active and will take bug reports, requests, etc. He's already ported over clockwork!
[Vibrant Android Development] davbran:
I have a strong dislike for Clockwork Recovery. I have tried it several times, and the biggest complaint I have is not being able to mount MS-USB. The option is there, but every single time I use it, it blue screens my Windows box. I have never had this problem with Amon Ra.

Now from the easy to use aspect of downloading roms listed on the rom manager, then clockwork is great. If you want more control, then it can be problematic.
[Vibrant Android Development] toeshot:
not hard to sign the packages

Here is the signing tool for Linux OS. Just follow the instructions

http://htchack.com/downloads/Linux-sign.zip

Here is a post for windows signing

http://androidforums.com/developer-101/8665-how-signing-roms.html
[Vibrant Android Development] blackerwater:
your right its not really that hard to sign packages but I own clockwork and support koush. Plus he owns the device amon doesn't. If something goes wrong koush will try and make up.
[Vibrant Android Development] dseo80:
I just wish we had the option to replace stock recovery =(
[Vibrant Android Development] kopykatkiller:
Why? Fakeflash is great. A bad flash of the recovery can screw the phone all to hell. This way is safe, and accomplishes the same thing.
[Vibrant Android Development] dseo80:
I don't have option: apply update.zip in my stock recovery
[Vibrant Android Development] bahnburner:
Stock Recovery is not FakeFlash.
[Vibrant Android Development] kopykatkiller:
Stock recovery is not, but running Clockwork from stock recovery is. It loads Clockwork into the ram, it never actually installs on the phone, therefore never changes anything keeping the phone safe.
[Vibrant Android Development] mightykc:
Actually the source code is posted here for free:

http://github.com/packetlss
[Vibrant Android Development] abcdavidefg:
I like Amon_RA but lets be honest if Clockwork took the time and give us this amazing option before the other guys because there were busy with other projects. I'll stick with Clockwork to show him my support. I love how i can manage my backup without having to be on recovery or be connected to the pc.