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[Galaxy S I9000 General] alovell83:
The first thing might be the AT&T network, can iPhone 4 handle HQ on youtube? I can no problem, but I'm on the fastest 3G network in the world, also knowing AT&T they probably gimp Android bandwidth and I would've ventured that same guess months ago if anyone brought up a Nokia or HTC device.

Second thing, did you adjust the brightness? Also, I don't think the screen is made to wow you in the shop, it's actually at a disadvantage in the shop in some ways. I had my first Super AMOLED experience about a month and a half before the international Galaxy S shipped with the Galaxy A. I also wasn't impressed. I thought, wow I wonder if anything else comes along to impress me if that's no longer a deal breaker. I ended up going with the Galaxy S and let me tell you why the screen is impressive. It's not that you can see it in direct sunlight, which you can. It's that you can see it in direct sunlight with sunglasses on...I was so extremely wowed and pleased with that result last week. Also, load up a 720p video from something like BBC planet earth and tell me that doesn't wow, that is simply amazing stuff.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dakine:
I tried various free and paid task killers, autokiller was the most seamless and effective app that i tried. I think it just reconfigures the os rather than having to run in order to function. Not sure if i tried advanced task killer. If it works without root then great.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] chriswren:
Have you seen how many complaints there are about lag, poor GPS and battery drain are on the forum for the galaxy.

Don't bury your head in the sand, these are all legitimate concerns
[Galaxy S I9000 General] chriswren:
You just flash back to an original rom with format in ODIN and it was all gone ? If so, why everytime I change ROM I have to re-root?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] chriswren:
My biggest grip, is that once you have applied an unofficial ROM and then fixed the lag issue you can no longer see everything in the app market.

There are a couple of apps I have paid for that are not available to unoffical roms grrrrrr
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dakine:
Show me where i can download the original Rom. Noone has it that is the problem with using unofficial fw.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] widjaja74_us:
Very well said brother.... I'm totally with you on this......

Some very honest feelings expressed here.....

This is the kind of sharing that we must see more and more in this forum....

Not the kind of self denials that most people write in this forum in order to try to justify their decision of having bought the phone even though they know the phone is full of bugs....Psyschologically inclined to see others making the same wrong decision that one makes in order to avoid feeling alone in their regrets....Very human nature but not very helpful for others....
[Galaxy S I9000 General] widjaja74_us:
Thanks brother.... i guess some people are just downright dumb.....
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Tachikoma_kun:
Or they just have not had problems with their phone.

Unlike say an Apple forum where people will stab you for claiming the iPhone 4 is anything other than perfect, people here are actually trying to give other advice.

People moaning about rooting and flashing should try other things (like the task manager I mentioned) and see if that helps before flashing on day 1 just because some people on here insist that is the first thing you should be doing.

Nothing short of an official update from Samsung will fix the GPS it seems, but there are plenty of helpful (non root) replies on here, that are being drowned in all the teen agnst just because the phone doesn't make you coffee in the morning.

If your phone lags/crashes/etc, take it back to the shop, ask for a replacement.

I have had 2 SGS' so far (had to send the original one back as Carphone Warehouse messed up my contract) and both functioned without all the issues (other than GPS) people are insisting must exist and we are just stupid, or lying fanboys.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] hassan:
@Tachikoma_kun

Well said mate.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dcoales:
Why do people get so irate when someone criticises the phone - even going so far as to suggest they're lying just to make the phone look bad ?

I have an SGS and I think it's a very good phone BUT I definitely have problems with it - the GPS is iffy, the battery life disappoints me, wifi sometimes tells me it has a solid lock and yet resolutely refuses to receive data until I reboot the phone, the dialler app lags significantly sometimes when opening up, Kies usually doesn't even recognise my phone is connected, the phone has frozen solid a couple of times until I've taken the battery out and applications force close quite regularly. On the other hand the browser is a joy to use, the screen is gorgeous and great for watching videos and 90% of the time it hums along pretty nicely. I've learned to accept the 10% of the time when it frankly is a pain in the bum because I've looked at a lot of other phones and even with its drawbacks I still consider the SGS to be the best of the bunch.

I'm pretty sure though that I'm sitting somewhere in the middle of a spectrum - between those lucky ones who experience no problems and those poor sods having much worse issues. Of course a lot of it depends on the mix of software you load onto it, the signal strength in your area, your make of wifi router etc, etc. However if someone is unlucky enough to be at the wrong end of the spectrum they have a right to sound off about it (otherwise they'll just bottle it up and get an ulcer) and you never know it might push Samsung to release a new firmware a little bit quicker - well we can all dream ;-)

In the end we should just sympathise, offer workarounds if we know of them or wish them well with their next device.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Tachikoma_kun:
I do sympathise, when I had an iPhone (launch model) I had nothing but problems with it, and nobody would listen to me, claiming it was perfect.

However, there's a difference between sounding off and the incessant moaning. If you don't like it, take it back, if you rooted and/or flashed it because you didn't like it originally, then more fool you, and I am afraid you are stuck with it.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] INeedYourHelp:
This is the internet, where trolls dwell and places like 4chan exist. People can and will do stupid stuff. I'm not saying people here are lying, but it's a fact that there are people out there who will simply post lies to make a product look bad.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] sandyph:
Funny. Just this morning I was in a discussion with an iphone owner how SGS would not be suitable for common user since you need to tweak it after getting it out of the box.

And here a perfect example :)

Though I can answer why you keep getting typo error when typing one handed. You bottom palm below the thumb touch the screen when you type with your thumb.

It also puzzled me in at first but now I know what the cause I seldom get the newline/keyboard switch to number when typing one handed.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AshMa:
I wish Verizon would release their version right now because it looks the best and has a flash. Question for you SGS owners; do you think having two batteries would give you battery life above the iPhone 4? Returning my Evo right now and selling my HD2 on ebay in a day or two. So I'm going solo with the iPhone but I still have a itch for something that can do more. It's driving me crazy how every screen you end on is the screen iOS brings your right back to. Example: I click through to 4 sub-menus and then exit out but when I launch it again, I end up back in that 4th sub-menu.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AshMa:
Thanks for not only your response but for not going postal over my comments as some would. I don't know how but a lot of YouTube videos on the iPhone 4 are showing up looking amazing, even better than on my Evo. I tried to view the same Inception trailer in HQ that looked perfect on the iPhone. But for whatever reason it was not in HQ nor did full screen take up the whole screen. If you can try it; "Inception Trailer 3 (HD)"

I guess the biggest issue for me was that the Captivate looks a little too boring for my taste. Looking at it from the front, with the screen off, it could pass for a device from years gone by. However you could be right about needing to take it home and giving it more time. But I guess I;m just going to wait for the Verizon version because I don't want to go back to T-Mobile and the Sprint version is too thick with it's keyboard.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] eaglesteve:
Iphone's built in battery is definitely not as good a design than a removable battery. With SGS,you definitely would be able to extend your day without access to power, by carrying extra batteries. The problem is genuine battery is expensive, and the eBay cheap battery are usually terrible and deteriorate very quickly, therefore ending up being even more expensive.

Of course, iphone would never give you a 4 inch screen like SGS.

On the other hand, I would never agree that you need to look at the same home screen in iPhone. iPhone in my mind is a lot more customizable than android from end user standpoint, once jail broken. I know I know, I might be starting a flame war here. But if you want to know more, in factual term, rather than argue just from emotion, go to the xda general section and look for a thread started by me entitled "comparing rooted android with jailbroken iPhone". You will find far better applications which runs faster, smoother, and comes with more functionalities on iPhone too.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] alovell83:
No problem, just stating an opinion, no need to get emotional...i'm not religious :p Anyways...I just read a piece on Engadget about the iPhone, apparently, in the beginning, AT&T went to Apple asking for YouTube bandwidth to be restricted or run wi-fi only...AT&T still has issues with bandwidth, therefore, if there are no legal issues to doing so, I'd say there is more than a 50% chance that they are limiting bandwidth on non-iPhones in their lineup.

AT&T has always gimped Android a bit (sideloading apps & bandwidth hogging features, particularly tethering, getting nixed), so if they have an opportunity to save their network from looking bad here I'd put my money on it. Sorry you didn't love it, but hopefully if you get one on Verizon it'll be all you hope for.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] lowspeed:
I saw it too. Big let down. All i could see is the black grid.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] trancelated:
I face this issue too.. :(
[Galaxy S I9000 General] nicoloco:
For the first time in almost a month of usage I missed a call because the lag was so big that I didn't even see the dial screen !!

I think the phone was syncing at the same time ...

Quite annoying but if it's once a month I should be able to handle it :)

Now for the advice regarding using an autokill I am not convinced ( maybe I should just try...)

When I have some lag, the first thing I do is going in systempanel to see how is the memory

And most of the time it's around 50mo. I don't see why I should worry about the memory and autokilling app if I still have memory ??

Should it work better with 100mo than with 50mo ?? I don't think so but I may be wrong on this
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Cyberpope:
Problem is I got 2 week to return the phone if I don't like it.. And from what I have seen, the ain't gonna fix it in 2 weeks.

GPS needs te funktion. That's a dealbreaker for me. And becourse I want to return it maybe, I can't fiddle around with a lot of leaked firmware
[Galaxy S I9000 General] eaglesteve:
I understand what you're saying. I'm in the same boat as you.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] argumon:
I am with you. I stopped counting, how many evenings I spent the last weeks to just get the normal functionality running. My main problems are the lags (several times I got a phone call and the SGS lagged that long that I could not take the call) and the connectivity problems with Kies.

On the other hand, coming from an iPhone 3GS I see the potential of the SGS and I am willing to spend a little more time, hoping that things get better. What I have heard from the beta firmwares sounds very promising. But the amount of time, I am willing to invest to get everything running in a satisfying way is limited.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] salvatordali16:
I understand him! The specs if this phone are quite good... But in reality its only a “beta-version“. Gps for example is horrible... in my family we bought 3 of them - we all have problems. I think we will sell it and buy an iphone4 instead.... I had the the old iphone and everything functioned out the box!

I didn't have to read hundreds of postings to fix something.... I think thats the reason why the sgs is quite cheap - the quality is not that good.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] distortedloop:
I absolutely believe AT&T is giving priority data to iPhones, even down to the SMS/MMS level. I even tweeted it last week. Pretty odd to me that an SMS sent to my Google Voice account (which forwards it to four different phones) ALWAYS arrives in this order: AT&T iPhone 4, AT&T iPhone 3G, T-Mobile Nexus One, AT&T i9000.

FWIW, my iPhone 4 also gets consistently better speedtest results than the i9000. This could be hardware, of course.

On topic, I'm 95% pleased with the i9000 after flashing the JG1 ROM and installing the mimocan "fix"/hack. I'll never use an iPhone as my primary device again. Android 2.1 and later puts iPhone iOS4 to shame, and the i9000 does a pretty good job of implementing the hardware and software to spotlight Android.

And to the original poster, I'm almost 50 years old, and I partly understand your lack of desire to spend a lot of time to tweak your phone just to get it to work, but the methods are there, they're easy to find if you've made it this far in xda, and once installed the results are fantastic and don't require any maintenance. I haven't done any tweaking to my phone to make it run "right" in a couple of weeks now, once I installed mimocan and autokiller.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] andrewluecke:
Actually. itSamsung manufactures most the parts itself, whereas HTC, Apple don't manufacture their own flash and such (so they should be able to make it cheaper than other manufacturers). However, they aren't that cheap.. When I bought mine 1 month ago, it cost more than the top end HTC's in Australia.

It also should come as no surprise that Samsung was almost non-existant in the mobile market, and they are now entering a market which is saturated, so they probably started dropping the price and doing what they are now to try to get a piece of the action.

I will agree that there are the lag and GPS problems, but the build quality of the phone is quite good I feel. I think though the software issues were caused because when Samsung was wrapping up the development process, Froyo almost began wrapping up too. So ultimately, Samsung probably did the smart thing and started focusing on Froyo before Eclair was finished (short term pain for long term gain).

Anyway, I got the phone because it's great for development (unlike the iPhone), good apps, Atmel touchscreen, fast CPU, and all the other hardware (I still believe GPS/lag will be fixed in Froyo). I wouldn't be as happy with other current phones. But that's just my opinion.

Does anyone actually know which chipset samsung are using for GPS yet? This would allow us to prove if it's software or not..
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Dxtra:
This phone lags lags lags and more lags frustrating at time that at want to slam it. Unacceptable period. Samsung should of tested the device more before launching. I'm not supporting this business practice and I'm returning the phone soon. Its not ok period and I don't care theres a aftermarket fix I should'nt had to do that.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ConceptVBS:
Its software.

People shouldn't expect a perfect phone for a 1st generation product. Nothing in this world is perfect. Nothing.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] BigWorldJust:
No one cares.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] eaglesteve:
I never thought I would come to this stage so soon when I bought my Samsung Galaxy S 15 days ago. I thought some of you were prematured in giving up this baby, but never I expect to join your rank so quickly too.

Why?

- Lags too badly, especially with emails and RSS news feed. Using the device makes me get very angry and frustrated. Life is short. I can't continue using this.

- Non-working GPS

- Don't like the back key which I keep touching accidentally, kicking me out of whatever I was doing.

- Difficult to place the cursor position especially when using keyboards without arrow keys.

- Too limited applications and where it exist, they're slow, buggy, and more lacking in functions and features than the iPhone counterpart. Can't even sync to outlook without surrendering personal information to google.

- Privacy is a serious concern when using applications from the market place. My contact details have been stolen right under my nose. I read that a wall paper application had stolen personal details and send it to a server in China... Well, I'll go back to the wall garden's serenity and safety for now.

- Android lacks customization flexibility compared to iPhone. This could be a thread on its own right I guess.

Am I not worried about iPhone 4's reception issue?

- So far, at the locations that I have been, I don't have any issue with the antenna. I had tested touching the gap and bridging the metals, tried both touching it normally and pressing hard against it. If I touch it normally, it will take 19 seconds to drop one bar. If I press hard against it, it takes 9 seconds to drop one bar. If I touch and let go, touch and let go, then no bar is lost. To lose the second bar, I need to touch it tightly for at least 19 seconds. At around 40th seconds, it alternate for a while between losing 3 and 2 bars, then stabilise to losing only 2 bars.

If I put on the bumper, it becomes impossible to lose any bar, no matter how I grip it.

Estatic with my iPhone 4 now. Faultless user experience is what it's giving me.

When Froyo and Gingerbread is released, I'll try again. I'll keep the unit as a firmware flashing and market place application research tool for now.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] OrionTC:
Im generally happy coming from the iphone to this phone. I hated and loved the simplicity of the iphone, while everything "worked" out of the box it was just a bit too simple.

If apple added widgets then that would be a whole different story.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] eaglesteve:
Once the phone is jailbroken, you can install widget and notification bar.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mickeko:
Actually that's EXACTLY what we SHOULD expect. It's because we don't expect it we get phones with all sorts of flaws released (this applies to ALL manufacturers).

The Galaxy S is not a first generation product, it's 3rd(?) generation (following the earlier Android-phones released by Samsung). Regardless of that, there's no reason why anyone who need the GPS should accept that it works as bad as it does, it's a fundamental flaw.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mickeko:
I've not played around with iOS much, but what kind of customization are you talking about? Can you choose a different phone dialler, contact manager, sms manager, launcher or keyboard in iOS? Is there even replacement calendars available? Todo-list? (I hope not ALL of the mentioned stuff are unavailable to the unjailbroken iPhone, it would be quite tragic)

As for customization flexibility Android wins hands down in my book.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] eaglesteve:
No point replacing one lousy application with another lousy application. It's better to be given a stock application so good that you don't even want to look for alternative. But to a lesser degree, one can replace the default, eg., browser, so that whenever you cliick on a weblink on your mail, it's your favourite browser instead of Safari that gets fired up. Where there is user demand for replacement, there's usually a solution in the Cydia App Store.

I don't want to detract and go off topic here. If you're really into the challenge of comprison, go to the general section and start a thread. I'll be happy to participate actively there to offer my view on why I said that. As a general user, it's a lot easier to customize the phone, to much more area, to areas that matters to users the most.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] cheetah2k:
While I too have the SGS and N1, I lined up to get a 16gb iPhone 4 outright the other night and after 2 days of playing with the iPhone 4, I have gone back to the SGS.

In all honesty, the 3.2" screen on the iPhone is just way too small. Lack of divx is a pain for me too. One thing I've noticed with the iPhone 4 screen is that it seems to be on a lower refresh rate than my old 3GS, N1 and SGS. Maybe this is because of the resolution increase and maybe they didnt design a screen that could handle side to side movement. I reckon the iPhone 4 screen is about 6-7ms refresh, where as the N1, SGS and 3GS is about 1-2ms.

Maybe someone with some technical background can fill me in on this one, but to be honest, my SGS on JM2 firmware and that brilliant 4" SAMOLED screen will do just fine thankyou very much. I honestly think that when the public release of Froyo hits the SGS, everyone will be a load more happier....
[Galaxy S I9000 General] eaglesteve:
THIS (larger screen size), I give it to you. SGD's ONLY plus point over the iPhone 4 in my mind is the larger screen size, abeit lower resolution. BTW iPhone's screen is not 3.2 inch. Perhaps you didn't really own one yet?

Not sure about the refresh rate. Is it something human can detect and be disturbed by? LOL. May be only the gamers would know, and I'm not one. If that's the case, I guess Apple should be worried since games is one area iOS is suppose to dominate as well.

I won't wish to turn this thread into an iPhone 4 thread. Let's keep away from the sidetrack and talk about why people says goodbye to the Galaxy.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tornado6:
Well, I sold off my 3GS earlier before i buy the SGS, my 3rd experience with an android, honestly i dont regret switching over, i only miss my games from iOS which i can just get an itouch to play it ;) ...for those having GPS issue with the SGS, i followed and instruction found in android central which is co-incidently from this forum. For iPhone4, i'll just skip it for this year, perhaps iPhone4s/5? :D
[Galaxy S I9000 General] richconnor:
at my age, 36, i dont wish to spend too much time trying to fix the phone like applying rom, fixes, firmware etc.... i just want a smartphone that works well out of the box....

and a child that doesn't cry, or dog that poops. Yes the iPhone is for you.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mickeko:
Yes, but who should determine what apps are "lousy" and what's not? "Customization flexibility" implies (to me) that I (as a user) am in control of how my phone looks/feels/behaves. As far as I've seen iOS has zero configurability when it comes to that. Apples dialler, sms management, contacts list are decent, but they are not in any way the best that can ever be conceived. With my Android phone I can replace every little bit of the OS with another app. It's possible to code a 100% customized UI for the phone should you want to (and have the skills), and distribute it. This means I can code my own "TouchWiz", "Sense", "Motoblur" or whatever, and people can opt to use it. That's the *ultimate* customization flexibility, there's no way Apple can top that (not that they would ever want to).

(As for this being off-topic, I don't think so. It's well within this topic to argue the points of why someone would opt not to keep their SGS. And I'm not saying that you shouldn't return your SGS, nor that you should keep it, you're most likely the best person to decide that for yourself)