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[Vibrant General] teknx:
Can anyone comment on the increase in battery life and/or system performance after removing all these apps? I'm thinking about it ,but want to know if I can expect major boosts in battery life.
[Vibrant General] s15274n:
The only thing you should expect is to no longer see them showing up in your app tray.
[Vibrant General] Beast84:
Is the DualClock.apk the Alarms & Clocks app in the drawer? Also, anyone know if the DeskClock.apk from the stock 2.1 will work if I push it to /system/app? I think this is much nicer & easier to use than Samsung's version

Edit: Also, GenieWidget.apk? Since ADW can't access Samsung's widgets, I would like to have this weather widget back
[Vibrant General] ELFungi:
I'm trying to follow these instructions to learn using ADB, and I'm having some problems. First of all, I got through steps 1-4 ok, but when I use the command "adb remount" it says "remount failed: no such file or directory". So I skipped it and continued to step 7, but when I try "$ su", I get a permission denied error instead of the shell switching to the # prompt.

As far as I know I'm rooted successfully, so I'm either not setting up ADB correctly or missing something. Any help would be great!

*** Edit ***

Nevermind, I got the "su" command to work. Still trying to figure out the remount.
[Vibrant General] GameOver69:
It wont let me delete or move the vvm-signed.apk.

i have had no issue with other stock apps on the Vibrant. When moving, it actually copies, when deleting in root explorer, it looks like it removes it, but then upon a refresh its back.

Then when trying to install from the market i get the following:

Installation Unsuccessful - pacage file was not signed correctly.

can someone pleas help?
[Vibrant General] musky:
Is it possible to remove the call log icon in the drawer? It seems redundant since it's included in the dialer. That is the only thing I have left that bugs me. The other bloatware is gone. Thanks guys.
[Vibrant General] Greenarcher707:
Might be a little off topic but I installed Anipet Koi Live Wallpaper and it placed an app shortcut on my drawer. How do i get rid of this? I ran root explorer, went to system/app and tried to look for anything that references this app but there's nothing in there. Any idea where it could be? I've selected show hidden items as well.
[Vibrant General] ttabbal:
I haven't tried deskclock, but GenieWidget works fine. There's a thread in development that talks about which stock 2.1 apps will run properly.
[Vibrant General] Dougefresh91:
Just tried it with Amazon mp3. Tells me uninstall not successful.

I haven't rooted yet because I don't have a great feeling about it. First Android phone and all that. However my patience with these crap apps constantly running is growing thin.
[Vibrant General] nub4life:
I rooted the phone, and when I do adb remount it says "remount failed: No such file or directory"

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

Edit: found this but didn't help. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=736548&highlight=remount
[Vibrant General] PelicanJack:
Same here. I can run the shell but cannot remount. Anyone kind enough to tell me what I'm doing wrong? :)
[Vibrant General] kelmerp:
There's apps that will let you easily delete stuff/move stuff/etc if you're rooted. To get rid of the stuff I didn't want I used AndroidMate (which is a pretty cool mutlipurpose file browser/app installer/manager) and just plain old terminal (I'm using ConnectBot). When you first run AndroidMate it's a little slow since it's catalogging everything, and when you click on the File Explorer tab it takes a few seconds and then will ask you for SuperUser access.

When you're in terminal just type su and if you're rooted by the standard means, you're get asked for SuperUser Allow/Deny access. Also, if you do use terminal make sure and switch out of the Swype keyboard temporaily since backspace does not work with Swype keyboard.

Here's some basic unix commands (not all will work):

http://freeengineer.org/learnUNIXin10minutes.html
[Vibrant General] :
I'm having some difficulty getting Telenav to delete. I've deleted other apps using Root Explorer just fine, but Telenav keep reappearing and won't go away. Any ideas?

Edit: Eh, nevermind. It just deleted fine. Weird.
[Vibrant General] daweedk1991:
Does removing the bloatware really make a difference?
[Vibrant General] allareconnected:
ROM Manager...

I do not see "System Apps" in ROM manager... I purchased it in the market place and enabled advanced setting. What ask I doing wong? Thanks in advance for your help!
[Vibrant General] ph09kng:
I used Root Explorer V2.10.3

It works flawlessly. All you have to do is delete the apk you don't need from system/apps. It uninstall the app and the shortcut too. Just be sure to backup everything before deleting.
[Vibrant General] mikey98277:
I had the same issue with Telenav unistalling, used titanium backup to remove, all others I was able to you root explorer, but with Telenav I had to use Titanium. so hope that helps
[Vibrant General] mikey98277:
Market installs apps in the data/app folder or the data/private-app folder, so you should find it in one of those
[Vibrant General] raduque:
Any foreseeable problems if I'm running LauncherPro and nuke TouchWiz30Launcher.apk and TouchWiz30Launcher.odex? I don't want the stock launcher running in the background at all.
[Vibrant General] rmarquez1974:
rooting vibrant

ok, I just got my vibrant, and it's fast. Came from a My Touch 3G 32B and was able to root that and had a lot of fun with cyanogen ROMS. I have a few questions just to make sure I don't do something newbish.

1) I downloaded the Galaxy_s_v5.zip one click method to root. Can i just run it from the download directory?

2) what is the lable for the internal sd versus the removable sd?

3) Do I root first then use the ROM manager to make the backup, or should I use Titanium Backup first before rooting?

4) If ROM Manager and Titanium BU don't make me feel all warm and fuzzy, what other way can I backup the files I will need if I want to go back to stock? And what is the directory/filenames for the ones I want to keep?

5) Is there a one stop shop for all of this that maybe I haven't come across as of yet?

6) is there a new radio I should upgrade my vibrant with?

Thanks much to all of you here at XDA! Really really appreciate all of your work and experience.
[Vibrant General] Arcadia310:
I rooted and downloaded Titanium. I removed almost all the bloatware that came on the phone, however something I removed caused the marketplace to act up. Now I can't download anything or send emails. What could be the cause of this?

Also which is the best to use for deleting bloatware; Titanium, Root Explorer, or Root Manager?
[Vibrant General] daddysays:
root explorer is a way easier way to do all of this, just hold and delete.
[Vibrant General] SykesAT:
If you feel you nuked a file you should not have and didn't back it up first, there's a system/app zip file floating around with them all.
[Vibrant General] pinoiryder:
i have removed avatar, gogo, telenav,kindel movi-tv, and telenav.. what does buddies do?
[Vibrant General] shuka325:
Can't find apps

I have rooted the phone and have root explorer but can't find the bloatware. I have looked in data>app but don't see the apk's to delete like telenav and gogo. Any suggestions?? thanks!
[Vibrant General] kawasaki500:
This application, root manager work great, perfect thanks.
[Vibrant General] vile10:
AccountAndSync.apk

DualClock.apk

DualClock.odex

Email.apk - which email? gmail?

Email.odex

MyAccountStub_4-5-10.apk - so no more one click log in?

vvm-signed.apk

sorry for being a rookie but can you tell me what apps are these above?

btw, i would love to remove "daily briefing" too but i don't know where to find it in the root menu
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MacGuy2006:
I am still not too happy with the battery of the Galaxy, even though it should be conditioned by now. Nowhere near as good as the iPhone 3Gs, even though the 45nm chip in the galaxy, as well as the AMOLED screen, should be benefitial to battery life.

Maybe a good benchmark would be to see what readings people get at the time of the first "Low Battery" warning. You can see what depleted your battery by going to Settings/About/Phone/Battery Use. To get details, touch the corresponding bar in the graph.

Mine are:

20h 32m 4s since unplugged

Display: 38% (1h 54m)

Cell standby: 24%

Phone idle" 16%

Android OS 10% (CPU usage 50m 4s)

Voice calls: 6% (2m 54s --- WTF?!)

Android System: 4%

K-9 Mail: 2%

Advanced Task Killer: 2%
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Robin.B:
Those numbers look good to me somehow, I wouldn't expect better battery life after using the display for 2 hours and another 19 hours of standby? Especially as the phone can easily stand by another few hours on the last 15%...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
i just got my phone recently, i'll post my results after a few weeks of daily usage.

i do a lot of 3G+, WiFi and SMS, not so much voice call, but regularly enough like two or 3 calls a day

that should be a pretty good test to see how long the battery last from full to like 20% that's when i usually recharge my phone if i don't carry a spare battery with me
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MacGuy2006:
It depends on what you compare it to, I guess.

I am comparing it to my old iPhone 3Gs, which would last about 48 hours, usually with considerably longer talk time than the 2m 54s I have on the Galaxy S. How can less than 3 minutes of talk show 6% battery drain?!

As I noted, the Galaxy S's smaller die (45nm) and AMOLED screen should be an advantage over the iPhone 3Gs's older hardware, yet the iPhone lasts markedly longer.

Anyway, I just wanted to see what others are seeing and how long their phones are lasting. It might be interesting to many others, too.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Pika007:
The galaxy S holds considerably longer than the iPhone 3GS. Probably longer than the iPhone 4 as well.

My current stats:

2D 0H 33M 41S Since unplugged

Voice calls: 34% (38m 37s)

Cell Standby: 28%

Phone idle: 19%

Display: 18%

Funny, it doesn't show the time when i played SandStorm and Asphalt.

Oh, and my current battery level:

66%

If i skimp on the battery, i can hold 5 days between charges.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MacGuy2006:
WOW! This is just amazing!

How long was your screen on for only 18%? (I have mine set at the dimmest, but still....)

Do you use email much and if so, how many accounts and often do you have the phone checking it?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Pika007:
Wait, you use tons of WiFi and you're suprised that the phone won't hold too much?

In contrast to the iphones that require you to manually search for a network, android ACTIVELY searches for local open networks and connects to them.

When you're not using WiFi- TURN IT OFF.

If you're talking about cellular internet, that's another thing.

And the display (set to medium-low brightness, the brightest mode where it doesn't BURN MY EYES. Damn this display is bright) registers 1h 27m.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] poolcin:
:eek: Are we talking about the same phone? It's impossible!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MacGuy2006:
For what it's worth, my WiFi has been off for most of the day.

But, on WiFi discovey, my experience has been the opposite.

On the iPhone 3Gs, I always had WiFi and BT turned on. if I was not connected to WiFi, but WiFi became available, the iPhone would bring up a pop up, asking me if I want to connect to the network.

With te Galaxy S, I can have WiFi Notifications on, but unless I search for a network (usually by turning WiFi off, then back on), it doesn't inform me of available networks.

To boot, even though it remembers both my home and office networks, half the time it does not sign in automatically when I enter the area, but I have to do the off/on thing to get signed on :(
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Pika007:
The pictures are HORRIBLE HORRIBLE HORRIBLE, but the info is all there.

http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/8025/dscn0044s.jpg

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/2236/dscn0042r.jpg

Point&shoot camera, single hand, and it's 3:33AM. You'll have to forgive me for the horrible quality of the pics.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] aeo087:
Well consider yourself lucky! you got an amazing battery from the future or something, because this is not what we are all seeing... I get a decent 30 hours with mine max...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] nicoloco:
Can you tell us how long is the display time ?

My guess is that I could stay 2 days with my phone if I was never swithcing on the screen.

The thing is that you seems to use your phone like I was using my old nokia 6310 ...

Try to play some music or video and you won't last 5 days or even 2days ... maybe 1 if you are lucky

Basically you have left your phone switch off 2 days and call 38mn and that's all ?? I can't tell you that my old iphone3GS is going to be pretty close in term of performance of battery

given that 1h54 give 38% of 85% for the OP I would say that you have maybe 20mn of display
[Galaxy S I9000 General] shadowkillaz:
The battery life of my SGS was terrible for the first few days of use. I don't have the battery usage numbers but the battery would only last for around 20 hours doing: 30-60 min call, 2hour music, 30mins video, 30mins game, and approx. 40mins web surf using mostly wifi.

But after about 5 charging cycles (discharging until battery ran low and the phone eventually turns off, then charging the phone to full), the phone lasts for two whole days with the same usage described above each day!

So I have noticed a significant improvement in battery.

If you haven't gone through the charging cycle and your phone is relatively new, give it a week before you think the battery life is crap :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] nicoloco:
yeah I am still waiting for the improvment

After almost 2 weeks , a dozain of cycle I still don't see it coming ...

I guess I must be using the screen too much ( miminum light) ...

Afert 12h46 I am at 25% with 65% taken by the display , 10% by cell idle, 8% by android , 6% by network idle, 4% by call ...

I have already used the screen 3h14mn

I don't know what you do but on my side I am reading my mails, reading xda, reading some newspaper on the train, watching some video ...

So my crappy battery doens't seem to come from some app draining it ... but just from the display.

So basically nothing I could do except using it less than what I am used to
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Pika007:
Display time was 1h 27m
[Galaxy S I9000 General] fua:
mine last around 10h (display on 4,5h) and thats as low as u can adjust brightness in settings :mad: according to gsmarena blog display can last up to 10h...

im using dimmer app now. hope i get 5-6h (display time) with that.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dakine:
ok i'll play:

10hr:10min since last unplugged.

Battery at 74%

Display: 50% (I leave it on auto brightness)

Cell Standby:19%

Phone Idle: 12%

Bluetooth: 8%

NDrive: 7%

Android System: 2%

I'm happy with that.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] miker71:
I'm easily getting through a 15 hour day with moderate use (my normal usage pattern). this is on a par with my previous Nexus One and iPhone 3G.

BTW, I keep the WiFi on persistently (even when the screen is off) because I heard it draws less juice than the 3G/phone data. (I typically spend a lot of time around the house on WiFi ...)

Battery killer is normally "time without signal", the N1 would average maybe 70% without a signal, the SGS is averaging around 30% without a signal - so based on that perhaps the battery isn't quite as robust as the N1 (which was on Froyo).

Anyway, I have no concerns about my SGS battery based on similar phones and usage patterns. I will be tempted to get an extended battery for it though (I had a Mugen 3200mAh on the N1 and that would give me 2 days under quite heavy usage).
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dakine:
Are you sure about this? I thought I noticed much better battery life when I started to switch wifi off and using 3g instead. I guess it could just be my battery maturing :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] miker71:
Keeping the WiFi policy to never disconnect apparently uses less battery than the system thrashing between 3G and non-3G data when sync'ing etc. Typically WiFi will show as 2% battery usage at the end of the cycle.

I base it off my old N1 usage, which I got from here:

http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=006a844d7d335a90&hl=en
[Galaxy S I9000 General] navmanyeah:
Does having having an alarm set to ring for morning drain the battery much? I left my phone last night when it was at about 70%, this morning I wake up and find it was at 23%. However battery usage app is telling me 40% was used by the Android system and even though wifi was on all night, it only used 2%. Whats going on here?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Robin.B:
I use my phone for an alarm and no, I don't find it drains the battery at all compared to without an alarm. If you see something unusual spiking in battery usage in the Battery Status page, I would take it to mean something went wrong and the system kept polling the CPU. I've seen this with the Internet browser sucking up up to 20% CPU when I had hardly used it that day. I haven't seen it since, but killing all tasks or rebooting the phone seems to fix it.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] nicoloco:
I must confess that on this one I won't believe it without a movie showing me the battery remaining and the display % and duration

You have a display which drain 6% of the battery in 1h27 when the OP has something like 32% with 1h54 of display ???

If you extrapolate you have a battery which could last 24h with the LCD siwtch on when everybody says around 10hours ?? R maybe we have other people able to stay 24 hours with the lcd swith on ?

So either you have a magic battery or the firmware is lying to you or ....:)

If I do the test again today I have 70% left on my battery and the display took 14% in 20 ... it gives me aaround 8h30 of display with a full battery
[Galaxy S I9000 General] gadjet0:
I'm getting a little confused by this phone and its battery performance!

I've had it about a week and at first the battery performance was terrible and it lost 20% overnight with flight mode on and everything switched off (not the phone though).

I monitored it through the morning and it was losing about 5% every 30 min's just sat at idle :( so I turned the phone all the way off for about 5 min's and then back on, it then lasted all day and all the next day with light usage.

So i put it on charge last night (it was at 15%) and this morning 30 min's after disconnecting from the power and it being in idle mode it was down to 95% !!!!!

It powered it off and back on and I'll see what it's like for the rest of the day.

I suspect a SW issue!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dakine:
I didn't charge my phone last night and this is what I get with what is for me normal use.

So a single charge should easily last me 2 full days with my usage pattern.

Now if they would just release the gps fix, froyo, some nice accessories, then I would be a happy camper :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Pika007:
You know, i bothered to use a camera to picture the screen because screenshots from the device can easily be edited, crappy-quality camera pics... nope.

I don't know about the firmware (stock JF3), but i have no benefits from twisting the truth.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dagingaa:
To the guys getting awesome battery life:

Are you using any custom roms, launchers or anything like that? I have this sinking feeling that launcherpro is draining my battery as I had some small issues with this on my Hero.

Hell, I'll even try it myself right now and see if it works. I'll check back once my battery is dead.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] shadowkillaz:
I have a decent battery life that lasts me through 2 days quite easily. I use launcherpro and my battery has been like this on the stock jf3. But ive now flashed to jg5 and did mimocan's lag fix (it's really fast now) about two days ago and the battery life seems to be the same.

As i mentioned previously, i had a horrible batt life for the first five charge cycles (batt not lasting a day).. But after discharging and charging to full, i can easily last two days with moderate usage n a day and half with heavy usage. Brightness on auto, 3g on, gps on - though i only use it to update my location on google map.

I can say i do about an hour of phone calls, 2 hours music, 30-60mins wifi, 30mins video and a bit of gaming.. So doing this for two days will give me low batt.

People seem to experience heavy drain overnight.. I only lose 3-5% in 8hours sleep.

I think batt life will just improve for everyone else in time.

Remeber to fully discharge (until phone turns off) and fully charge five times...well thats what i did
[Galaxy S I9000 General] navmanyeah:
Last night I only lost about 5% over 7 hours, so I dunno how I lost so much the night before.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] al74:
Where do you all live that you have to keep your phone uncharged during the night - in the desert? How do you get any cellular reception in the desert?

If you don't live in the desert, is there any chance that you can plug your phone to the outlet during the night and we be done with this "I'm experiencing heavy drain overnight" nonsense?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Pika007:
Why the hell should we put it to charge at night? Increased battery wear&tear.

I don't plug in mine overnight as well, and i too expirience only 3%~ drain.

Those 3% aren't exactly the thing that's going to save me while i'm yearning for some more juice.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Robin.B:
Exactly, and also sometimes you may not be home overnight and therefore lack a charger. I find that if you really need to conserve battery life overnight, Flight mode is best, I only lose 1% that way!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] al74:
Give me a break. I've kept phones plugged overnight for over 10 years now. Never has any battery issues. This is not an iPhone, you can get a new battery on eBay for $10 if a year passes-by and you think your battery is weaker. Better than *****in over "overnight drain" in the forums, that for sure. Besides you have to plug it in sometime, right?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Lenunited:
2d 2hours
[Galaxy S I9000 General] nicoloco:
OK,

so let's play again ... the 15% alarm just popup and it's unplugged for 17h34mn

36% of cell standby

25% of phone standby

24% of display (35mn)

6% of Android system

So I guess I definitely have a problem with my phone ... It's been two weeks and dozen of charge cycle.

I have upgraded to the JFF firmware

Just the cell idle and phone idle drain 60% of 85% of the battery in 17h ...

How could it last 2 days for me ?????

Any idea how I could improve my battery ??
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dakine:
Very strange, either your battery is broken or the phone's software is doing something it shouldn't. What other modifications did you make to your phone besides the JFF firmware?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dagingaa:
I'm seeing the same pattern as nicoloco. I'm currently running JG5 with modaco r2 and mimocans lagfix. I previously also ran launcherpro, but now I'm running TouchWiz again with launcherpro being idle.

Now, for what I think is happening. My old Hero has a weaker battery, but slower processor, and it could last about 1,5 days before going into red. If I used it alot, it would last me about 6 hours with heavy use. This means music + meebo im and connectbot running at the same time.

If some program acted up and kept polling the cpu it would last about 8 hours before giving up.

So if our battery is supposedly running for 2 days without a charge, and possibly longer, I would suspect that the constant polling would grind the phone to a halt within 10-15 hours, as some users experience. This seems to be on par with what I saw on the Hero.

At the moment I'm running the phone with TouchWiz for the day and I will post back the results later today when the battery gives up. If I see the same usage pattern I will continue to disable programs until I see some improvement.

Perhaps the users with great batterylife could post what programs they are using (stock or nonstock) and maybe what batterytype and production date it has.