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[Galaxy S I9000 General] eaglesteve:
Did you know that you were going to make a profit before deciding to sell?

I too experience problem with GPS accuracy, frequent lags, email contents taking long time to load, and erratic 3G GSM signals. However, I think Froyo 2.2 will speed up the phone considerably so I'll definitely wait for it. Froyo was the reason I came over to try out Android. (Actually, the Optus girl in a shop told me that the demo phone that I was trying on was on Froyo, as she had personally upgraded it. She told me that I can easily upgrade the stock 2.1 to 2.2 myself. I now know what she lied to me, but that's another story).

On GPS problem, I read a response from Samsung that they're working on the problem now, so I'd give them time to do so before jumping up and down on it.

I disagree on the keyboard though. I love the Swype keyboard. Although I had tried it on winmo before, I didn't like it (may be because then I loved Tengo keyboard too much), and I never though I would like it now. But I'm presently surprised that I now actually love it so much. I still prefer the iPhone keyboard more, but honestly the Swype keyboard is pretty good.

I have no personal experience with non-touchwiz interface, but have no issue with the interface. Perhaps the reason I love it is because it mimics iPhone so well, especially a jailbroken iPhone where my first homepage on my iPhone is also stuffs like clock and weather wizards.

As to firmware, as long as you do not require Asian character input, I don't see any reason for you to withhold using the European firmware, although I don't know yet how to do it due to my inexperience in Android. If I'm you, I would have tried the few new European firmware and see if the problems are addressed before hastily selling it.

Besides, if you're going to use Android in non-CDMA locations, what better options are there?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
LOL :D so funny this guy had the exact same sense of humor i did

http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showpost.php?p=47290842&postcount=8

replying back to the OP trolling different forums

2 pages back i replied the exact same thing
[Galaxy S I9000 General] widjaja74_us:
I actually enjoy tinkering with a phone.... but only if the tinkering leads to a solution..... which is not the case with this phone .... case and point the GPS problem among others....

i just could not live with the fact that i paid almost twice for this phone what i paid for my old samsung i780 and yet the i780e gives me solid GPS and phone performance and never lags or freezes....

i dont care about being called troll or anything, my purpose was just to share so that maybe i could save some people the disappointment that i experienced....

If you are satisfied with your phone then good for you.... but i know there are a lot others out there like me and about to be like me.....
[Galaxy S I9000 General] widjaja74_us:
I tried to share to as many people as i can because that is my honest experience.... and i hope that i can save as much people as possible from feeling disappointed as i did.....
[Galaxy S I9000 General] widjaja74_us:
exactly why i was disappointed and sold the phone.....even my 2 year old samsung i780 is better in its GPS and phone handling functionality
[Galaxy S I9000 General] widjaja74_us:
i guess i'm just one of those people that don't have enought time to spend on fixing a phone....i value my time and would rather spend it on enjoying instead of fixing the phone.... sorry but thats just me
[Galaxy S I9000 General] widjaja74_us:
But also many people are experiencing about to experience problems like me .... that is why i share my experience in the first place
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Pika007:
You make it sound like it requires you to hire a team of engineers and build the device back from scratch.

All you have to do is sit on your comfy chair and wait for the next firmware from samsung. That's all. Hardly "Fixing the phone".

You are ignoring the fact that this is a brand new device, and has some birth ropes.

I don't know of a SINGLE smartphone that came out perfect out of the box-

The nexus one had problems, the HTC Desire had problems, iPhone 3G/3Gs/4 had/have problems, the Nokia N5800 had tons of problems, the list goes on infinitely.

Birth ropes and bugs are an acceptable thing for a new high-end phone, as long as they get treated quickly and efficiently enough.

What's unforgiveable is a hardware issue that doesn't get treated in a way that costs NOTHING to the owner, and a software issue that doesn't get treated at all.

When one of these two surface, if it ever does, every complaint will be justified.

Right now, it's a bit of a bummer that the device is not perfect out of the box, but we already saw that for the time being, samsung are not neglecting us, and their software support to this point is pretty impressive (as opposed to their mail support team, at least the UK one)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] widjaja74_us:
I appreciate your comment.... you know all these comments just shows that in these days and age, we have nothing but negativity and suspect towards others when in fact some people really do have positive intention i.e. experience sharing.... i mean just look at this thread: http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthread.php?t=2781948

so many users are experiencing problems like me.... so these are in fact what i honestly experience ....

If you happen to be those who have nothing but positive experience on the phone then good for you.... but dont attack me like i'm the bad guy....i mean come on, its just a phone
[Galaxy S I9000 General] widjaja74_us:
Again, i honestly hope that all of you in the end will get the fix that you all rightly deserve.... do remember that i was one of you....hoping for a fix that will make it a good phone....

But i was just afraid that some of the problems here are hardware based which cannot be fixed.... i.e. slow internal sd card .... weak GPS chip....

so since i can still sell the phone at a profit, for me the best action to take was to sell it and find a better phone.....i mean won't you do the same if you were in my shoes??
[Galaxy S I9000 General] flamingpitofhell:
Come on though, don't you have any positive experiences at all to share? Weren't you the one being negative by simply concentrating on the flaws? Honesty extends both ways...

Some of the things you listed aren't really problems (the GSM signal, the keyboard - the former doesn't seem to impact real life performance, the latter just takes a bit to get used to, and is actually widely acclaimed as a great feature of the phone - as many have stated before, the sensitivity of this screen is superb).

Several others (lag, TouchWiz) have simple fixes e.g. custom launchers, task killers. Did you try enabling SkyHook for the GPS?

And finally why just sell it and not seek a replacement? If the problems are as severe as you describe surely getting a replacement would not be difficult?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Tachikoma_kun:
Right tried that, and yes it did give me "lag" but once I actually closed the 8 apps I had running in the background, everything sprang back to life. Seems to me we just have to treat this phone more like a Windows Mobile phone and make sure we actually shut down apps when finished with them.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Harts@J:
As a just phone you had only two complaints:

- Phone hangs when i am in a conversation and another caller comes in....

- GSM signal quite erratic, phone must be held certain way to avoid drop in signals.... just like iphone 4 but maybe not as severe.... i am not sure....but it bothers me because i can see the signal dropping 2-3 bars when i hold it certain way.

Are these typical only to the Galaxy S? I doubt, I have had same kind of problems with many phones. It is not necessary phones fault, it can be (and is) in many cases networks fault.

All the other things are common all to the new smartphones as mentioned many times, fixing those need some new firmwares as mentioned many times.

You are not a bad boy, I think you are just a little impatient and you should not buy the latest smartphone models. It could be better to you to buy last year model, where the worst problems has been fixed. Or buy just a common phone without any bells and whistles.

I hope you have more luck with the other phone what ever it would be. :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] vytman:
I think the OP has valid arguments.

I don't care how many forums he reposted his problem, he pointed his problems politely and clear. I don't care if he is a troll disguised (I'm not saying he is).

It was a personal experiencie with his new phone, he didn't liked it, he posted it in is fair right without "this phone just sucks!!11!!1!" and so on.

My 2 cents.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] eaglesteve:
I wish people don't test their phones like their religion and see anyone unhappy with the phones as evil deserter.Without complain manufacturer will not improve.

Sometimes I wonder if those who attack anyone who dares criticising their phones are employees of the manufacturers.

As long as a criticism is supported by facts, we should let them rant to a reasonable degree. I get annoyed only if they start multiple threads in a same forum and clutter up the space.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
Exactly! ... heck under those conditions even the iphone will break down and burn up
[Galaxy S I9000 General] eaglesteve:
Indeed. I've heard users of both Android and iPhone phones saying that we should just let the OS manage the quitting automatically. I find that this never work for me. I do have to manually close unwanted every so often to keep the device working properly.

One thing that kind of puzzles me is how some of the programs get started on my SGS by themselves. I know I didn't start them but when I go to the task killer, I was surprised that they're running. You guys notice this too?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Evans_Prophet:
I am afraid as well that these things cannot be fixed. Maybe we just got a bad batch, maybe all the phones are defective.

I am bothered by the GPS but still have my touch HD and this is why I don't sell it. Other than that it is a very nice phone, though I would have liked an touchpad and led notifications.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Tachikoma_kun:
Yeah I have noticed this, I know market fires up when you uninstall an app, and even with all syncing turned off the email app seems to enable itself occasionally.

Heck my multi-core 4GB RAM iMac will stutter when I have enough apps open at once, I think people are just having unrealistic expectations.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] imabigd:
I've had this phone for several weeks and it has been a roller coaster of flash updates, trying to get the right Kies software, trying to figure out which version of windows will even recognize the phone and which drivers will work and after countless days of futzing with this phone (on the newest firmware release) I am still having major problems with this phone.

1.) GPS - terrible. Simply terrible. It won't work with wifi enabled and when it does work it's bad.

2.) Internet/Data connection lost when phone goes to sleep. I have to reconnect/disconnect Wifi to get it to work every simple time. No firmware update has fixed that.

3.) Lag - it's gotten better with the latest release (J5) but it still is noticeable.

I haven't returned it yet, but after three weeks and probably 150 hours of my time lost, this phone is still not where it needs to be. Frustrating. Inexcusable by Samsung.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Dopedangel:
If you want to be the first to get a new device. you will have to live with the problems of new devices.

If you want an error free smartphone wait 6-8 months after a phone has been released so the all the bugs have been worked out.

Even an Iphone on which apple controls what you are allowed to do and not do

so you get as bug free an experience as possible has bugs on its first release.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] widjaja74_us:
I feel you brother..... i feel you......

Get rid of it while its still new in the market like i did....do it while the bad things about this phone hasnt spread out too much....

price is going down very fast now.....
[Galaxy S I9000 General] widjaja74_us:
I can accept these comments....i maybe a little impatient in waiting for samsung to release the firmware fixes.... But i just think that they should announce first to the public that they are working on the fix of the issues some customers have and inform when they will issue the update....

Dont just sit silent ......
[Galaxy S I9000 General] alovell83:
1) Does this have a GPS chip or is it just A-GPS? I've seen it reported as GPS with A-GPS assist, but on the unpacked site it mentions A-GPS, not GPS. If it's just A-GPS you shouldn't expect the world from that, and also you were just a mis-informed consumer not doing their homework.

2) Isn't this an Android issue? There's an app for that "wi-fi keep", it's actually on the front page of XDA as I type.

3) No issues on my end, but I have read about them so I guess they exist, but part of that is also an Android issue and, at least partially, resolvable if you know what you're doing.

Kies sucks, I wish they at least had a Kies Lite since I wouldn't have it on my computer if it weren't for my SGS. Then again, it's not like many of their competitors have skinny software interfaces. I did have an issue with 1 of my 2 updates on Kies, but recovery mode saved it (I think it was actually my USB port that was the problem because after my 3rd or 4th recovery attempt I changed ports and it fixed itself).
[Galaxy S I9000 General] eaglesteve:
Tell me widjaja, is there in your mind a better Android phone for the GSM users? What are you going to get next?

In my mind, as long as we're talking about Android phone for the GSM users, there is really no better choice than this, although I might be wrong here.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] widjaja74_us:
I actually had a very good experience in connecting with Kies, never a problem and was always quickly to connect to the device and i think the program is very good in terms of its functionality.....easy and fast contact backup, easy transfer of media: video transfer and conversion on the fly, photos and music..... i was running windows 7, 32 bit.....

It is the phone that really sucks for me....

I have a strong feeling that the samsung guys that were working on this phone were really rushing this phone out the door in order to catch up some market share out of iphone 4 and HTC.......

As long as the problems i described are not hardware and they can issue firmware fixes quickly, i think they have a good chance of doing that given the iphone 4's signal reception nightmare which everybody knows know.... But if they don't issue these fixes fast enough, HTC may win.....
[Galaxy S I9000 General] widjaja74_us:
I am THINKING of getting HTC Desire..... at least i havent heard of many complaints about lagginess on that phone.... and the GPS seems very good from the videos i've seen on youtube.....I like the LED notification and the flash on the camera.... although it seems the photos and videos taken by samsung has better quality.....

I am just worried about the battery consumption and just wish that it had bigger internal memory.....

But all in all.... whats important for me is that it seems to be very fast, stable, no signal reception issue, GPS works as it should consistently, the screen is ok (amoled), has beautiful outer shell software (HTC sense)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AshMa:
I already did the 150 hour thing with the HD2 and I'm not going to do it again because life is very short and there are just so many things to do and enjoy out in the world.

I've had an iPhone 4 for about a week now and it's my first iPhone. But the darn thing just works for the most part. I do not have software issues with it and I'm not buying this "if you want a new device then deal with the problems that come with it." I don't buy beta devices, therefore I don't want a device to act like a beta device.

Please keep in mind that I like Android FAR more than iOS. I fell in love with the Evo but it had build quality issues (at least the one I have does) and poor, POOR battery issues. I'm looking for the best of the best in Android hardware with the smoothest working manufacture software (Sense, TouchWiz, etc.) and then the iPhone is history to me.

I mentioned this before and I'll say it again; all of you folks who love to spend your time tweaking day in and day out are behaving as if the SGS was made for people like you when in fact it was made for people like me who don't want to spend hours and hours tweaking away to get the basics working right. The SGS is a mass market device, NOT a hacker/tweak lovers device.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Harts@J:
Here a short tutorial from the WM Experts (http://www.wmexperts.com/articles/gps_vs_agps_a_quick_tutorial.html):

aGPS vs. GPS: The Basics

Okay, first let’s do the basic definitions: aGPS = assisted global positioning system, while just regular GPS is non-assisted.

So who’s assisting and why does it matter? When you use a GPS system and you turn it on, it needs to find orbit and clock data for the relevant satellites, this in turn results in what is called TTFF, or Time To First Fix—how long before you get your location pinpointed. This initial TTFF is often called a “cold start” and on SiRF III systems (the latest GPS systems available), it can take anywhere from 30 seconds to a couple of minutes to acquire a signal. That time is dependent on your location, amount of interference and horizon information: open fields are faster than canyons or urban environments where buildings can interfere with the satellite-receiver line of site.

But when you use assisted GPS this whole process is much faster. Very often cellular network towers have GPS receivers (or a base station nearby) and those receivers are constantly pulling down satellite information and computing the data. This data is then passed on to the cellular phone (when requested) and acts like a “cheat” since the relevant satellites to your location are already identified and all that GPS computations is handled by 3rd party computers. This is the result of such a system, to you the end user:

•Faster location acquisition

•Less processing power is required by the device

•Saves battery life

•Location acquisition indoors or in non-optimal environmental settings
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
There are easy fix for #1 and #3

re: #2 - it happens to my HTC Athena as well, and also for the HTC Desire for the short few hours i've had it

it is "normal" feature to conserve battery AFAIK in all smart phones
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
read this about HTC Desire

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=666332

i came from HTC Desire to SGS i9000 not because of that, i just like the SGS faster CPU + 3D after seeing the HTC Desire vs. SGS i9000 side by side video

perhaps you should get a non smartphone Nokia or any other good old phone

or just get a iphone that supposely works out of the box, which i always get calls and complain about every other day because my customers that uses iphone always have problems with it.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AshMa:
Spent an hour with the Captivate before deciding to walk away. When it comes to material possessions, looks matter to me a lot and the Cap just doesn’t have that wow factor; the Evo and iPhone both do as far as I’m concerned. The Captivate I tried was connected to 3G and so I ran all kinds of tests with it and nearly everything was less than impressive.

I couldn’t get it to display HQ YouTube videos and so that test looked pretty bad. The sms app looked a lot like the HTC Evo sms app but just not as smooth to me. Icons and the UI left a lot to be desired and the screen just didn’t wow me as much as I thought it would. I asked the att sales guys if they could see the screen door effect and they both said no (one of them was an iPhone 4 owner). So perhaps it's just my eyes..... Also something about the design really looks like 2 or 3 different phones were glued together.

I really wanted to love the SGS but I just don’t have the time any longer, to spend hours tweaking away. I have a company to launch and a future to build. I need a phone to just work and have good battery life. I’m not a Steve Jobs nor an Apple fan, but for now I’ll ride with the 4G until the next batch of Android phones come out (Evo II perhaps).

Good luck to you all and whatever you go with, I hope you get a lot of joy out of it in your life, rather than it being your life.....At the end of the day what matters most, isn't how well the sms app works but rather the who and what of your text messages.......
[Galaxy S I9000 General] nicoloco:
Sometime I wonder if the guys on the apple website are like some of you or if you are even worst ?

For those who say that there is no problem at all with this phone ... :rolleyes:

For those who say that the OP is stupid without saying it clearly or that swype is so good. Did you really try to use swype with only one hand ? It's feasible but honestly it's not great. For information the OP complain was about writing with one hand ...Just in case some of you were too quick to pull the trigger.

Then if you use the normal keyboard , it's still true that it is quite wide and not so easy to write with without typo.

I decided to switch from the iphone just because I don't like the way apple lock everything , make us pay for everything and the way itune works ( I never watched a video on the iphone)... but I had not real complain about the iphone 3GS. It was quick, reliable ( good gps) and what it was supposed to do, it did it well.

Now if you think that it's normal to go in a task manager to swich off the app every hours ... good for you. That's not the idea I have of a smartphone.

Personnaly i still have lag issues and sometime a black screen for up to 1mn.

The app are crashing ...something that I have almost never seen in 1 year of iphone. I have several crash everyday ( on the mail app for instance)

Anyway ... you will say that I just have to root my phone, flash it, create partition on my external sd card ( sorry I bought a 16gb samsung thinking that it would be enough ... now it seems I have to buy a sd card to make it work quickly) and maybe that I am a fanboy ( which will be funny knowing how I annoye people in my office with iphone being not that good)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Tachikoma_kun:
Either kill it when you quit the app or set a task manager to auto kill. For me it's no different from when I was using my HTC Touch HD.

I have said this a few times and seeing all the problems people have had that I don't (other than crappy GPS) I am sure there's some dodgy batches of phones out there. Mine is completely stock and have had no issues at all (other than the GPS flaking out twice on a 60 mile journey)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dakine:
In order to get the sgs to work properly one has little choice but to root it and install autokiller. It is easy? Yes. Is it acceptable? No. Samsung knowingly released this phone with bugs in order to match the iphone 4 release, there is no other explanation.

The sgs is one patch away from being a great phone and it's up to Samsung to deliver. So I'm giving them 2 weeks, if after that all we have is unofficial Roms from some strange website then I'm taking both my phones back. I think Samsung can't expect more from a customer then that. To all you guys installing unofficial fw: good luck returning your phone if there isn't an official release to flash back to.

SAMSUNG YOU MUST:

FIX THE LAG!

FIX THE GPS!

FIX THAT BUGGY CRAP YOU CALL KIES!

DOO EET NAOW!!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] eaglesteve:
Amen to this. Anyway, since rooting is irreversible, I don't want to void my warranty, especially with uncertainty surrounding the GPS hardware.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Tachikoma_kun:
Advanced Task Manager €0.99 on the marketplace, no need to root, you can set the schedule to kill apps, set safelists, things like that.