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[Vibrant General] speedysilwady:
and thats why we have such sexy color on our phones.

hmm so it seems the majority is in favor of having red onscreen blinking notifications as opposed to the physical button backlights (which i read on the modaco forums are locked away even with root so idk how feasable that would be anyways)

so is the majority convinced that these red notifications will draw the least battery?

will this process wear out the red color over time, though?

would an app like this require root? i dont believe so...however the button backlight would def need root id think if someone figures out how to modify them.

is an apk being written for this already by someone?

i think those are all the questions I have for now...thanks all!

P.S. I believe if this is the method we're going with, itd probably be even better to have the notifications look small as possible (but not too small to where we cant tell what notification is what) maybe there should be an option for notification size too in case someone wants big notifications?
[Vibrant General] gTen:
Red should not wear out as much as Blue...if anything RED is on par with an LCD's lifespan..Blue is the only one that gives most of the issues...

The App most likely will not require a root..

Ideally is to let the user choose what they want to use as the picture with a few preloaded..I mean if the user wants to waste energy with a movie of a big bang with all colors thats up to them lol...but the basic loaded ones should be the power saving...

We will test different backgrounds and figure out exactly what is the ideal for visibility/power saving...

The thing that makes the bottom notification lights bad also is the fact that they are on bottom...so if you want to check for notifications you have to take out the entire device..the other one will most likely be more noticeable...
[Vibrant General] speedysilwady:
ah okay well im starting to like this idea a lot then!

yeah i agree customization is always a plus but the preloaded should be the most battery efficient.

hmm testing different backgrounds for ideal visibility and power saving ? well im guessing its gonna be black background regardless since it uses 0 energy, but i assume you mean youre gonna be testing different shades of red to achieve the perfect contrast/visibility/power saving?

yeah thats true i didnt think of that, unless people put their phone in their pocket upside down and we get cm6 with upside down autorotate =P haha

im jk but i do like your idea more, and the backlights are locked till someone learns how to crack them anyway and you need root for that method, which isnt a big deal to me but I wanna wait till we get a nice custom recovery and some roms before i root my phone
[Vibrant General] israel941:
YES!

This was my only hesitation with the phone. I got over it and ordered anyway, but this whole idea is GREAT!
[Vibrant General] unclejimbo88:
But won't having the screen blinking prevent the processor from ever going into standby? There's more than just the power draw of the screen to worry about here. If the phone never goes into standby, the battery life will be shot, like when the Droid had problems with the SMS app.
[Vibrant General] t1n0m3n:
Good point on the proc going to sleep... If we do find a solution though, just have the notification move around the screen screen saver style.

Oh an the notification should be red and as small as possible. Or, have the colors configurable and make the top four pixels all the way across (the notification light is randomly placed along the top of the phone.) That way if you do burn out the pixels, it has only a little impact.
[Vibrant General] gTen:
Yeah..I guess we can underclock the CPU to offset this..but that would require rooting :/

The other option without rooting is to have it wake up for a second blink and go to sleep for 5 seconds..and etc...
[Vibrant General] gTen:
Also..we can use the light sensor to our advantage as well..if its in your pocket..there is really no need for it to blink..so we can have it not activate unless the light sensor is exposed to some sort of light....

(this can be an option to save battery)
[Vibrant General] BradBot:
Ahh, but what if the lights are off in your room? :D
[Vibrant General] gTen:
Depends on the sensitivity of the light sensor..in a city for example..there is always some sort of light source even if it is week..in other areas..it may not help...(thats why I said as an option)

There is also the proximity sensor as well...
[Vibrant General] Pneumatic:
The lack of an LED notification seems to be a glaring omission to me. I am subscribing to this thread hoping for a solution.
[Vibrant General] MINUS Stl:
Just wanted to let you all know that there is an app on the market call FlashNotify. It flashes your whole screen when and SMS comes in or there's a missed call. You can also adjust how frequent it flashes and for how long. It works on our Galaxy variants.

I know we're looking at a simple icon that flashes at the top of the screen (and I'm all for that), but this is a good temporary solution. :)
[Vibrant General] Pneumatic:
I have that installed right now and it works fine. The only issue I see is that if I am away from the phone for an extended period of time (or in bed for the night) I am afraid it will drain the battery.

You're right... It will do until a proper fix is created but flashing the whole screen is less than ideal IMHO.
[Vibrant General] speedysilwady:
yeah an option should be fine,

if you wanna get complex with the sensors or a time based auto-off auto-on feature during certain times of the day, then that works too.

and besides how long does it usually take someone to check their notifications anyway? i check mine almost instantly or a few minutes later, so i dont think the battery drain will be that big of an issue anyway
[Vibrant General] BradBot:
Speaking of the sensors, do we know for sure that neither of the three are a camera? I'm probably getting my hopes up, but wanted to be sure.
[Vibrant General] speedysilwady:
just light and proximity sensors im afraid..
[Vibrant General] gTen:
It seems madmack was able to put something together based on some of the suggestions:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=7240939&postcount=117
[Vibrant General] Ryyuu:
Correct,

Madmack has put something together in regards to this however it only blinks one RED led randomly on the screen.

It also only works on notification sounds so if the phone is on vibrate it will not work. which is a BIG drawback. It will also not notify you of a missed call.
[Vibrant General] speedysilwady:
damn i wish my vibrant was here already so i could try this out and leave some feedback.

anyways i think this app can and probably will be modified by someone to enable it to work in silent mode and with a missed call.
[Vibrant General] Brantyr:
This sounds great but it will have more battery drain than the dedicated notification LED in other devices uses - while the screen may not have a backlight it will still drain more power when it is on and completely black than off because the chip which decodes the digital signal and turns on and off pixels will be running and also the CPU won't be asleep. If it's made as an app for stock ROMs the phone will probably be doing input processing for the digitizer on the screen as well but hopefully this could be avoided if it was built into a custom rom at a lower level.

It would definitely be worth the hit for some people's use of the device though, it will just need some testing to see whether it's worthwhile for people more like me who unlock the phone to check things anyway and don't need the notification as much.
[Vibrant General] speedysilwady:
bump, any news on progress?
[Vibrant General] gTen:
@Brantyr - the digitizer can be disabled, Madmack's version already did that...

Madmack made his own thread for this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=730692
[Vibrant General] southpaw773:
i downloaded "No LED" from the android market. a colored dot moves around the screen with the rest of the screen black. i probably will only use it sometimes but this about what was being discussed.
[Vibrant General] Shagman68:
Kind of funny that people want a flashing light. On my G1 I hated all those blinking lights. So, I guess this phone is perfect for me!

Sent from my Vibrant using the XDA app.
[Desire General] neomagik:
I'm quite happy with the Froyo Rom I have installed at the moment (ShadowFrost 1.4) but I'm curious as to whether the Echo problem has really been sorted yet?

It's bearable on my current rom with the in call volume turned down but some rom cooks claim to have solved the problem completely but when you read comments, it turns out that some still have a problem and some don't.

Has the problem really been solved 100% on any rom?

Also with the introduction of Sense to some of the newer roms, has the FM Radio been included?

Cheers
[Desire General] herrvorragend23:
I can only confirm the echo on OpenDesire and DJDroid (because I've not tested any other rom yet). Of course I have the latest leaked radio flashed.

But it's useable now, although it's still there.
[Desire General] rolfd:
I've no echo at all now. Not even on speakerphone. I did have bad echo before the radio leak and fix.

The FM radio is on the sense froyo roms now.
[Desire General] herrvorragend23:
did you really try it or do you presume it because nobody is complaining on the other side?

my suggestion is set in call volume to max. call a friend, swap phones and let him speak loud and clearly into your phone and you will be able to hear the echo. not loud. but it's there
[Desire General] Jagdish84:
I'm having no echo issues at all. confirmed both by calling myself and my mates on the other line...using Pauls R4 atm, but never had this as an issue since Djdroids release of the new radio and rom...
[Desire General] Kali-:
/system/etc/firmware/*.acdb from N1 is the cause of echo bug
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Demon_man:
Whats the chances we can start putting [Question] in our threads and editing it to [Solved} when we have our answers this way it will make it so much easier to find answers:confused:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] se1988:
yes, that would be nice
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 11calcal:
definately think so, but some people wouldn't bother updating to solved, on most threads i started and the question has been answered I've changed it over, that way if people use search function for a query and it says solved they may find the answers instead pc starting a new one
[HD2 General] kcchan48:
The camera shutter sound cannot be disabled easily for those using the HD2 from Telstra (AU). So I made a one byte change in the original cameraRC.dll (mod date 06/11/09 1136128 bytes) file to fix the "feature".

1. Initially, to disable the camera shutter sound copy the attached cameraRC.dll file to the \windows directory replacing the existing one (or just rename cameraRC.zzz to cameraRC.dll if you are disabling the sound again - see step 2). Note: a hard reset will cause this change to be lost.

2. To re-enable the shutter sound, simply rename the cameraRC.dll eg. to cameraRC.zzz. There is no need to do any soft resets, just restart the camera application and it will use the original dll from rom.

Let me know how it goes. If there is enough interest, I will give a step by step walkthrough on what I did (useful to fix other models or dll version).
[HD2 General] karlmueller:
Is there any chance you could patch the cameraRC.dll of the Telstra Touch Diamond 2 ROM too?

It would be really awesome if you could :)

thx

karlmueller
[HD2 General] Smygflik:
Huh? Have they removed that option in the camera settings on the T9193? I got shutter sound there and can chose "on/off", european HD2 thou. Weird.
[HD2 General] otacon:
I wonder whether vendor ROM's are different. Mine is vendor-free, and I have the option of turning the shutter sound off in camera settings...
[HD2 General] karlmueller:
Yes they are it seems that turning off the camera shutter sound isn't allowed in Australia and so that option isn't there in Telstra ROM.
[HD2 General] lude219:
Using chucky ROM with my T9193. Sound can be disabled fine. If this was on the stock Telstra ROM, then i can see the problem.
[HD2 General] karlmueller:
Yeah sure you can disable the shutter sound if you flash a cooked or even non Australian stock ROM.

But I flashed my European (originally Vodafone Germany branded) Touch Diamond 2 to the Telstra ROM cause it seems to be more stable and faster than a non-branded stock ROM I tried before.

The only thing is that you can't disable that shutter sound in that Telstra ROM and when I searched for Telstra and shutter sound on the forum I came across this thread.

I know that this is the Leo HD2 section but as it's basically the same problem I thought it's better to post it here than to open a new thread in the TD2 section.

So it would be really great if you could explain how to patch that .dll @kcchan48

thx

karlmueller
[HD2 General] alexandredp:
I cannot modify a ROM file so how do we do this?
[HD2 General] dgin:
please, tell me...
[HD2 General] ppk.net:
My hd2 is android now and I looking for this agenda too.

Ok go on more search

bye
[Vibrant General] Mookie_Jones:
It's takes a bit of getting used to coming from a g1 but I left.my sick on last night and my battery is at 95.. love this phone
[Vibrant General] s15274n:
I forgot what a good battery was like... my G1 lived on the charger.
[Vibrant General] iceshinobi:
Lol the battery is amazing
[Vibrant General] spigatelli:
I am even starting to like touchwiz. I never thought I would like anything but vanilla android.
[Vibrant General] iceshinobi:
that's something I don't think I will ever like that's why first app i downloaded was Launcher Pro
[Vibrant General] Mookie_Jones:
my poor daughter is gonna be so happy. shes inheriting my g1 and being that shes 10, she only turns her phone on when she needs it so she wont notice the battery life.
[Vibrant General] SugarMouth:
I agree! I love what Samsung has done to the UI. MUCH more useful IMO.
[Vibrant General] WilliamStern:
I agree about the battery being great on this phone. I'm also starting to enjoy the Touchwiz UI. Samsung has done a great job thus far. Only thing I can't wait for is Froyo 2.2.
[Droid Incredible General] GatorsUF:
So I understand there is an OTA update for the Dinc today and it will include the WifiHotspot. But I also heard this cost about $20 extra per month to use. Is there any other applications that allow for HotSpotting without paying extra? Can you connect via USB and use your Data Connection that way?

Also with my current phone TP1 I can do both of these but the phone gets suuuper hot and kills the battery really fast, is this the case with the Dinc?

I get my Dinc on or before the 26th so I am real excited :rolleyes:
[Droid Incredible General] k.electron:
easy tether is your friend to tether without incurring additional costs - http://www.mobile-stream.com/easytether/android.html.

i run my phone all day and it gets warm but doesnt start boiling like my TP did.
[Droid Incredible General] Kipphh:
Use unrevoked and root your phone then use the wifi tethering app in the market.
[Legend Android Development] Corra:
By doing it, the sense interface and browser scrolling becomes smoother? I was wondering if it was possible to have a page scrolling as fast as my ipod touch 2g
[Legend Android Development] Corra:
I can't believe that no one is using it...
[Legend Android Development] schpinn:
I'm not using a Sense ROM so I'm unable to help you with this, but I suggest to you to do a nandroid backup in recovery, try installing the mod and see if it helps. If you don't like what you get, you can easily restore your nandroid backup. My opinion is it that it probably won't have an effect on browser scrolling speed.

EDIT: typo
[Legend Android Development] Corra:
My legend is not rooted... I don't want to loose warranty just to try it ;)
[EVO 4G General] Sprockethead:
I know that you can use SetCPU to change the clock speed. But now I want to actually see the clock speed so I know that it is working.

Is there an app?
[EVO 4G General] psychopsilocin:
Overclock widget
[EVO 4G General] Sprockethead:
Thanks yo!

And this won't interfere with SetCPU? Meaning, the two aren't going to battle for control of the processor?
[EVO 4G General] chazglenn3:
SetCPU comes with a widget that displays CPU speed. Change the Active Refresh Interval to something besides passive.
[EVO 4G General] Sprockethead:
As far as I can tell, the SetCPU only displays the settings. Like it will display the low setting and the high setting. You are saying there is a setting to display the current clock? I am going to look for it now. EDIT: I don't see it. Please advise.

Also, the Overclock widget doesn't ever seem to change. It is just stuck at 246, which is not correct. Uninstalling.
[EVO 4G General] chazglenn3:
I edited my post to show how.
[EVO 4G General] Sprockethead:
I really appreciate it.
[EVO 4G General] chazglenn3:
Get it working?
[EVO 4G General] Sprockethead:
I did, but I'm wondering about it's accuracy.

I have one profile set up, and one only. That is: when the screen is off to scale back to 245.

The main screen ranges from minimum to maximum and has Set on Boot checked.

However, the "real time" display on the widget only displays 245.

Is the widget wrong, or is my setup wrong?
[EVO 4G General] chazglenn3:
I'm not sure. Mine is set on performance, so it stays at 1152mHz.
[Android Software Development] freaky3:
hello

i am working with air/as3 for android

i need to get some web elements like jpg or xml

all is fine i have a wifi connection, nevertheless if i want to use the 3G connectivity i can't have something ?

is it normal or a permission pb ?

thks
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] khaytsus:
Please, I'd like to see feedback from people on what circumstances people are seeing their phone get hot charging USB. If your phone gets hot on a USB charge, try powering down the phone completely and then charge on USB, does it still get hot?

And please, if your phone gets hot on USB charge, post how you're charging, your ROM, and how hot does it get? There are many applications for this. I use Battery Snap, you can use any program you like. If you don't have a program, please don't guess at the poll, but feel free to post results in a reply.

Also one would assume ambient temperature in the room is typical, but if yours is not (<20c, >28c) please post that information too.

Please answer the poll by the typical range of temperature your phone gets on a USB charge. I'd suggest charging around the 50-60% mark to get more consistent results.. For example charging if the phone is at 95% wouldn't be useful information etc..

One more slight constraint; if your phone gets hot "one time" but not other times, I'm inclined to think there was something else going on with the phone at that time. If your phone is consistently hot when charging USB then post results here.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] khaytsus:
Reserved in case I need to add any info..
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] khaytsus:
I charged my phone off my Dell M6400's docking station today, started the charge after pulling the phone out of my horizontal case and the phone was 29.5C, I looked multiple times at the highest I saw it was 31.3, and most of the time 31.1. Using Battery Snap for the data. Started charge at 80%, as that's what charge it was from this morning until 4pm when I started ;) I do not have USB Debug enabled by default on my phone, nor did I have mass storage.. When I got the mount prompt I just hit the back button.

Phone is about neutral to the touch, slightly cool. Normally when it's on my desk like this it's fairly cold to the touch, so I'll have to update later when I've put the phone in the same place without charging, but I'm guessing it's a few degrees warmer on the charger than off of it.

I'll repeat this a bit over the weekend here too as I have time, this time I'll set the phone sit on the desk for a while first, check temperature, then charge.

Please do post when you provide input on the poll so we know the circumstances... I mean, if your computer room is 35C and your phone gets 40C charging, I think that's reasonable ;) My office here is around 24-25C.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] khaytsus:
Charged again today from about 75%, house is around 23C (wife likes it cold..meh) and the phone was 27C max charging on USB.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nxt:
My AT&T Nexus One purchased June 2 from Google overheats and reboots.

Here's what I've found out:

I charge with the original AC Adapter and this only happens when I'm charging and the battery is LESS than 40%.

If the battery is 50% or higher, it's fine.

When the Battery is less than 45%ish, the phone gets hotter and hotter, from 33C up to 39.3C (is what I last see), then it will SHUTDOWN AND REBOOT. When it reboots, it would be about 37-38C. If it's still under 45%, temp will keep rising again, till 39.3% and REBOOT again, takes about 5-10 minutes for this to happen.

Weird thing is, if you pop the battery out and FEEL it, IT IS NOT HOT AT ALL. It's the DAMN phone that OVERHEATS.

2 nights ago, I was charging and reading in bed. IT DID THIS 3 TIMES IN A FREAKING ROW.

7AM EST, I called HTC, and doing a Device Swap.

Have not received my replacement unit yet. Funny thing is, HTC told me they send out device swaps of JUST THE PHONE, no battery no battery cover. So I have to keep my battery and battery cover. And I told them about my overheat/charging/battery issue, and they said if it still happens to mine, they can send me a new battery.

Anyways I will be testing the replacement unit with my battery and make sure it's VERY low to see if it overheats and reboots.

Other info: This happened in OFFICIAL STOCK FRF91. I'm currently running CyanogenMOD 6 RC1.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] khaytsus:
Hmm, yeah that sounds like hardware problems to me.. Curious, what are you using to measure? I'd assumed the battery temp stuff was really the battery, not .. something else?

In my case when my phone is cool, the whole phone is cool, not just blindly looking at numbers of course. :)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] khaytsus:
Again, would the folks voting really high temps try the things in my first post, and let us know what the ambient temperature of the room is, how hot the phone feels vs the measurement, what's being used to measure it... But particularly I'm curious if totally powering down the phone makes the problem go away.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nxt:
Dial *#*#INFO#*#* then select Battery Information. It will tell you temperatures there. But I think the temps there is phone temp not batt temp, since in my case when it days 39.3C and I pull the batt, it feels less hot than the phone itself.

Also for my case, it does get hot and reboot while USB charging. Reported 3 time in a row again yesterday and I got pissed and HAD to turn the phone off.

Anyways, waiting for my replacement u from HTC.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nxt:
Well got my replacement Nexus One today, serial number is higher than my 1 month old Nexus One.

I got it go to up to 39.8C and it did not shutdown and reboot, but stuff started crashing.

Music playing would stop, then if I try to start the song again or choose another one, Music app would Force Close.

Started Navigation app and that right away FC.

Anyone experiencing this?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stuff:
I think you are using a goofy USB cable, or your room is HOT. Because the only time I've had my phone overheat, I was at a pool, in the sun. The phone's temp was 45 c also. I could still use it, but it was burning hot. An app notified me of the temp (I had it set that way) and I turned the phone off.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nxt:
I'm using both the original AC adapter and usb cables from google.

Also AC has been on it's under 80F in the room.

The other day on the unit that keep rebooting, when I was navigating, i had to hold it up to the AC vent while i was driving to be able to use it... lol... sigh.