yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Vibrant General] lk_517:
thanks man, you saved me a lot of time!

I played with one Vibrant today and yeah, it's magnetic sensor. But it performs basically the same as Gyro, just will be affected by the metal thing.

I have no idea how good it would be in real use and I am still thinking if I should give it a shot.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] b_allert:
correctly can someone please let me know how to decide?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] -shift-:
you're best bet would be to go through the stickies in the android development forum.

but to answer your question, if you're root, then when you adb, the prompt shows # instead of $.

as for nand, with my limited knowledge, if you can flash custom roms, then you have unlocked nand.

i strongly suggest you go through the steps to root and nand unlock. those threads are found in the dev forums.

oh and search is your friend :)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 063_XOBX:
Try to use rom manager and if the clockworkmod recovery is installed correctly NAND is unlocked
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] katmandu421:
1] dude, it's "know", not "no", c'mon

2] Try loading one of the many fine ROMs you'll find here on the development forums onto your SD card. Turn your phone off, then hold down the volume down button while powering it on. You'll want to go into recovery, it will look like blue or green text on black, then try "upload .zip from SD card" (not sure of the exact verbiage and not about to reboot to verify), then navigate to the ROM.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drmacinyasha:
Please see http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=725746 and make sure to search next time. :D
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] b_allert:
first off. thanks. i didnt realize i was still writing my thesis for my english major...sorry. secondly, i appreciate the advice on your second part of comment
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] b_allert:
thanks, sorry about that
[XPERIA X10 General] xGary:
Can anyone tell me the exact steps from Step 3 to Finish on a Xperia 10a? Including what to DL, etc

The most confusing is step 3... Do i do it or not?
[XPERIA X10 General] synlar:
Read this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=717949

hope it helps.
[Vibrant General] dowwin:
Does the T-Mobile support video calling?

Thinking about getting it next week from here...Thanks!!
[Vibrant General] Lieu10ant:
yes, keep a mirror handy.
[Vibrant General] dowwin:
haha, no joke. no front camera?

for what it is built on you figure it should come with front cam.
[Vibrant General] TRF-Inferno:
No joke, the Vibrant does not have a front facing camera. Samsung stated that having this feature was at the carrier's descretion.
[Vibrant General] dowwin:
i swear, t-mobile gets like the kid-version of any phones!!!!

thinking about switching net-provider.

Verizon- ledflash, prob. front video-chat, mute switch and slicker looking to top it off

Sprint- slide out qwerty-keyboard

At&t is out of the question b/c their data plan sucks since they dont offer unlimited-data no more
[Vibrant General] gTen:
AT&T doesn't have front camera either...the GSM carriers want to avoid video traffic on their data networks...even verizon I hear on DroidX I think forces video call on the 1x rather then 3g (at least at the moment)..but same may happen to their version...

So come to the sprint side...
[Vibrant General] memorito:
I was looking at the phone today. I saw a front facing camera. The MANAGER said it has two cameras- but, no app to use it, yet. It was NOT a proximity sensor. I had an iphone 4 and the vibrant and the ffc looked exactly the same. There is another set of pinpoint in an oblong circle to the bottom right of it which I assume to be proximity and light sensors. It has a total of three holes. One of which is three times the size of the others and has a lens in it. I believe it has a disable camera in it.

www.memosworld.com
[Vibrant General] Chalup:
There are indeed three "things" on the top left of the phone when viewing it from the front. But even if it does not have a FCC, who cares? I would never use it. My other phone has one and I never used it
[Vibrant General] memorito:
Chalup, let me have your other phone. Just coz you don't use something doesn't mean I won't. I like to skype to my family in Florida. That would be great to do on the go.
[Vibrant General] Chalup:
I know, I just meant for me personally I would never use it. What's that saying, "opinions are like.....everyone has one"?
[Vibrant General] memorito:
Now if everyone had a FFC... Then maybe you'd have a possibility of using it. :o) I just found out that Skype blocked their service from Fring. What a horrible move.
[Desire General] kelvintan:
As you all know, the new batch of Desire for Telus will come with SLCD.

androidpolice.com/2010/07/15/htc-desire-headed-to-canada-on-telus

I'm not from Canada so just wondering should I wait for SLCD to available worldwide or just grab the current AMOLED.

The main concern of mine is AMOLED with pinkish issue.

Anyone can tell me which is better ? Please to explain to me as I'm totally don't have any knowledge regarding SLCD & AMOLED. :confused:

Many thanks :)
[Desire General] boas:
I think it comes down to personal preference. I kind of like the AMOLED screen, and mine has a very soft neuance of a pinkish hue. But nothing that is annoying or anything. The SLCD is as you know the secondary preference of HTC, but it seems to be as good as the first choice..
[Desire General] Nit3m4re:
I genuinely think if I wasn't a member of this forum and read pretty much everything about the desire, I wouldn't have noticed the pinkish tint to grey colours... That's just me, it really isn't bad and certainly not a deal breaker. For how often that colour even shows up, its not worth concerning yourself about. If you want AMOLED over an SLCD screen which I think is probably wiser seeing as it was HTC's first choice then get one now.. All I can say is the screens beautiful and full of colour, not having seen SLCD screens I can't say if it will be any different but unless its an improvement, then get an AMOLED one :)
[Desire General] m8tix:
Can't agree more. Haven't seen a SLCD live but I really like the shiny colors and this is enough reason for me to choose AMOLED over lcd :) I really don't care about the slight pink effect and anyway it's almost gone in 2.2.

I'm really happy with my desire

Regards
[Desire General] abvmoose:
If you don't notice anything wrong with the screen on a Desire with amoled screen then don't bother with the canadian version.

Some people are just more geeky and uptight about these things.

Personally the oversaturated colors was the first thing I noticed when I saw the phone in a shop without having read about the issue on the internet.

Amoled: The colors is punchier and fuller, the blacks will be deeper.

This sounds really good and most people dont find the oled on the desire bad

at all. Because of the type of amoled they used on the desire the screen wont

seem as sharp as a hvga screen should be. If you want to see amoled screen

done right, check out the samsung omnia hd, just perfect.

Lcd: The colors arent as full but after having had a tp2 for 6 months i think it looks really good anyway. Any lcd screen with hvga resolution will appear alot sharper than the one on the desire. Also i found while the colors werent as deep as on a oled i found the color spectrum to appear wider than on desire. Dont know if thats true that just the way it appears to me and what I prefer.

The Slcd they will use on the canadian Desire will be a lcd with a

ips panel. ips panels arent normally used on cell phones but alot of

graphics artists use them on lcd monitors when doing photo work.

I think theyre supposed to show colors more accuratley than

tn or pva panels.

I know the viewing angles on them are really good,

like 160 degrees. The downside has been that they don't have quite as

fast response time as tn or pva panels but it isnt a big deal if youre

not a twitch fps player.
[Desire General] MightySashiman:
Also, I read that SLCD drains more power than AMOLED.
[Desire General] vlasac:
It is a contradiction. If colors are deeper then spectrum is wider. Amoled can display colors which LCD can't, and which doesn't even exists in any normal (sRGB) picture

Can you share a source of that info?
[Desire General] vlasac:
If you have two horses, one drinks 5 liters of water per day no matter what is doing, and other drinks 2 liters doing nothing and 10 if runs all day in full gallop, which one drinks more?

Consider you need additional 200 liters everyday to clean them and stables. Does it matter at all which one drinks more?
[Desire General] abvmoose:
I don't think that the colors are deeper and the color spectrum or color space is the same thing, maybe im wrong. I found the colors the desire screen showed were deeper, by deeper i mean more intense and fuller, as one should expect from a oled display. To me, the colorspace didnt seem as wide as on my tp2's lcd screen. That's my personal impression of it. It could be because of the pinkish hue wish also might add to the oversaturation of some colors. I found the color red specially to be oversaturated wich gave me the impression of the colorspace not to be so wide.

It's true that Amoled can show more colors than lcd, at least when oled

is done right.

You know what, im not sure that I can. I was pretty sure that ive read somewhere that S-lcd is the buzzword for Samsung's and Sony's joint venture for creating newer generation lcd displays with ips panels.

But now that I look for it im not so sure. I was certain i read an post on Engadget where they clearly stated that it was ips panel but I cant find that now.

There is one source vaugley explaining it here:

http://androidcommunity.com/htc-for...ft-lcd-from-amoled-due-to-shortages-20100625/

But it says:

"But, the big question is: what is Super TFT LCD? Well, you’ve actually heard of it before, because it has a nickname that’s come up recently in the news (after the announcement of a certain tablet). Super TFT LCD’s nickname is IPS. Which, yes, became “famous” thanks to Apple’s iPad tablet. It provides a wide viewing angle, and provides very clear images — even if the colors aren’t as “distinguished” when compared to an AMOLED display."

But the source of those news is:

http://www.oled-display.net/the-sma...tc-must-switch-the-display-from-amoled-to-lcd

Wich really doesnt say anything about being an ips panel
[Desire General] al89nut:
If the SLCD is even vaguely readable in direct sunlight, go for it. Because the AMOLED isn't, I don't care what people claim.
[Desire General] bedeabc:
If it's an IPS panel, the I'd be very tempted to give 'SLCD' a try.

But whenever I pick up another phone since getting my Desire I notice the muddy, bleeding blacks that OLED eliminates.
[Desire General] kelvintan:
It's official now. Wondering any review which is better..
[Desire General] tomek_fcb:
youtube.com/watch?v=gY6qpnoziZM
[Desire General] fadasma:
Google chose to stop selling Nexus One instead of putting LCD monitor to it.

This decision says a lot.
[Desire General] foxmeister:
Sorry, but I don't think the AMOLED shortage had *anything* to do with Google shutting up shop on selling the Nexus One!

Regards,

Dave
[Desire General] steve228uk:
That video kinda makes me feel good about having an AMOLED screen.
[Desire General] janroar:
There's no screens named SLCD. S-LCD is the COMPANY that makes the screens wich will replace AMOLED-screens on HTC DESIRE. S-LCD is a joint venture between Samsung and Sony. According to wikipedi, S-LCD makes S-PVA panels (wich is even worse than IPS). The video showing the "new" screen on desire is clearly a S-PVA panel.
[Desire General] vpraveenis:
Patterned vertical alignment and super patterned vertical alignment (S-PVA) are alternative versions of MVA technology offered by Samsung's and Sony's joint venture S-LCD. Developed independently, they offer similar features to MVA, but with higher contrast ratios of up to 3000:1.....

PVA and S-PVA offer the best black depth of any LCD type along with wide viewing angles. S-PVA also offers fast response times using modern RTC technologies.

Source: Search Wikipedia for TFT LCD
[Desire General] andycted:
I've had a new HTC Desire with S-LCD in my hand for a while, along with my old Amoled one.

It's surely a lot better than my old LCD (Touch HD).

What impressed me is the clarity of the display, the whites, the good contrast compared to old LCD and the fact that (I think) the phone is lighter.

Of course blacks and contrast are miles better on amoled.

But where it failed me, is better readability in direct sunlight. It's more or less the same as amoled, which is (for me) average. I can live with that, but I expected the S-LCD to compensate more for its shortcomings.

All in all, I feared worse, but I would take amoled any day.
[Desire General] albert_htc:
according to my box, I have the amoled screen.

Must say I'm pleased with whatever it is !!
[Desire General] owziee:
Isn't it true that the amoled wear out pretty quickly??? How do we know it doesn't look like crap and with washed out colors in only a year or so??

I worry about this since I use my phone more than 4 hours a day, constantly browsing the web with it.
[Desire General] DRMON:
AMOLED looks better IMO.
[Desire General] mr.vandalay:
i had both slcd and amoled side by side and slcd is a lot better in my opinion , it displays a lot more clearer then amoled.

i came from hd2 and i know that i could read xda forum without zooming in but on desire amoled it was impossible...now i have slcd and when i set text to large i can read everything without zooming in..

also amoled display has like these black dots on the screen i saw it on samsung omnia 2 also.. they were making me insane... now with slcd the screen is crystal clear :D
[Desire General] familyhousing:
I have a Legend with amoled and a Desire with slcd. Legend screen is vastly superior when viewing high contrast screens (like the settings menus). The difference is stunning. Saying that, the desire slcd is still a very good screen but for me amoled is better.

When comparing side by side the slcd just looks foggy in comparison.
[Desire General] blunted09:
I had a nexus one and the next day I got a desire slcd. I absolutely cannot tell the difference in quality. But I can see it in direct light now though.
[Desire General] john306:
How can we tell what screen it is on the Desire before you buy?

Have they just changed the box to add S-LCD?

Are they now all S-LCD being produced?
[Desire General] andycted:
Slcd can be recognized by leaking brightness, bad viewing angle and absence of pentile matrix.

I was surprised by how good slcd is, but I still prefer amoled
[Desire General] chris2busy:
You are forgeting the fact that with slcd you can actually use yourmobile outdoors too! Yes it reflects way less..coming from a guy using it in a ciuntry that sunshine is from 9 in the morning till 8 in the gternoon..
[Desire General] blunted09:
that has to be my favorite part about it. The nexus screen was great but it drove me nuts outside with even a little bit of sunshine on it.

Both screens are great. I love this phone.
[Desire General] andycted:
Took both for a spin in bright sun, not so much impressed with slcd, wasn't all that better. Might be that my amoled is on the bright side, as there are different levels of manufacturing
[Desire General] zaki67:
I really don't think that for a user it would make much difference , both are good screens and both are used adequately in a lot of excellent devices , my opinion would be not to get too technical cause the desire is an excellent device.with either screen
[Desire General] gogol:
See this:

http://blog.laptopmag.com/android-battery-test-reveals-droid-x-lasts-longest-amoled-handsets-trail

LCD rules for daily browsing usage :)
[Desire General] foxmeister:
Pretty piss poor review if you ask me, since it is not comparing like with like.

The Motorola Droids have an underclocked processor compared to the HTC Devices for starters.

A far better, and far more accurate test would be to take either a Desire or a Nexus One and compare the SLCD and AMOLED variants - at the very least you take everything other than the screen out of the equation.

Regards,

Dave
[Desire General] andycted:
You can find such test in the Froyo battery testing thread, I did them personally. To summarize, you have an advantage with S-LCD only when using very high brightness and very white screen, otherwise AMOLED drains less battery.
[Desire General] incaaa:
There was a question about identifying the screen in shop. The answer was vague.

Is there a way to identify the screentype from the box ?
[Desire General] andycted:
Most of the times, AMOLED display has this written on the box itself, under the specs. Otherwise, nothing is there, just screen dimensions.
[Desire General] Mikroft:
Not like you have too much choice anymore. You kinda have to buy SLCD if you want a new Desire/Nexus One since they're no longer being manufactured with Amoled.
[Desire General] SpideRMaN-17:
On My box it says:

Display: 3.7-inch touch-sensitive screen

is this 100% SLCD ?

is there any apk that can identify the screen so there is no risk when rooting ?

Android Version 2.2

Baseband version 32.43.00.3U_5.09.00.20

Software Number 2.09.405.8
[Desire General] oursoul:
I never noticed any pink on my screen. The AMOLED to me looks stunning. The only thing that worries me is its halflife :(
[Desire General] sudkcoce:
I can see the amoled in sunlight. I have even read the whole book on my desire on a beach with no problem. Stop sharing misinformation. Amoled can be easily viewed in sunlight as long as you have brightness on max.

Anyway I think this comes from lcd users that are envious of amoled displays. Think what you want but stop spreading misinformation!
[Desire General] andycted:
Yes, I took both in extra bright sunlight and couldn't see much difference. They're both average, you can read stuff pretty well but you probably need to angle them correctly.

S-amoled is a different story in sunlight. the iphone display had also very high brightness, without however the same levels of contrast.

After froyo, the light pink hue is also gone, but I still think whites are still a bit better on s-lcd

Sent from videotext, using the remote
[Desire General] Fermat:
SLCD is MUCH better.

I switched from an AMOLED Desire to an SLCD one. Finally, no fuzzyness anymore! :)

That stupid pentile sub-pixel layout was so annoying!

And by the way, AMOLED is just as good/bad in direct sunlight as LCD. There's no difference in sunlight legibility, that's only a myth.

Nevertheless, SLCD is the better choice.
[Desire General] andycted:
S-Amoled would be the best choice.

Agreed there is no difference in sunlight legibility, but the pentile vs washed out contrast is a matter of taste. Personally I really don't mind the pentile arrangement and I haven't noticed it in a long long time.

But the washed out colours and no real blacks of S-LCD really make me prefer amoled. Not to mention the fact that the viewing angle is crap on S-LCD, or on any lcd without ips.

S-LCD isn't bad at all, it's a real nice technology and you won't mind having it. But Amoled is a tad better, proof of that is that they only switched to S-LCD when they had to. That said if you can't stand the pentile arrangement and are very observant of these aspects, you might find amoled not your cup of tea and S-LCD a very nice display all the same.
[Desire General] foxmeister:
The Engadget review linked here directly compares an AMOLED and an SLCD Desire.

Based on the screenshots, there's very little difference between the two displays in terms of quality.

What was most interesting was that the AMOLED was far more battery efficient than the SLCD when playing video. We already know that the SLCD edges AMOLED in a pure web browsing test, so IMHO it is probably pretty much a wash in terms of efficiency during average usage.

Regards,

Dave
[Desire General] andycted:
When I saw photos of the two displays on the web, I thought -what the hell- I wouldn't mind if my next phone didn't have amoled and was with S-LCD. My friend bought a new HTC Desire some weeks ago and I held them both in my hand for a few hours. It's nice, way better than normal TFT, but I really really don't want a S-LCD anymore and the difference surfaces only when you have them both in your hands.

As said above, if you are not annoyed by the pentile, it's the way to go (for me). Regarding battery life, we took some measurements with currentwidget and found out you only gain something with SLCD while browsing and with white backgrounds, otherwise it's a tie or amoled saves more. There isn't much difference though, I think.
[Desire General] fl3rry:
î heard AMOLED will lose color and contrast after 12 - 24 months! is that true?
[Desire General] bizb360:
yes SLCD may look better then AMOLED but i read that the battery usage for AMOLED is 30% less on the desire
[Desire General] owziee:
That is not true at all... I've had my Desire for more than a year now and the colors and contrast is still amazing! When my old laptop broke I was constantly online with my desire 5 - 8 hours a day for weeks and I was worried that I would wear out the amoled but now I've read a lot about the technology and things like the pentile matrix helps to even out the longevity of the blue leds, I think it should last about 4 years with 8 hours a day usage until half brightness. that is a lot if you ask me... even 4 hours a day would be more than normal usage and that would take maybe 8 years until half the brightness is gone. Who would like to keep their Desire in the year of 2019? :-)
[Desire General] shankly1985:
Witch one of theses saves battery power, with a black background?

I been using an all black background thinking am saving battery on my SLCD, but a mate thinking its just Amoled that does and am using more battery doing so.
[Desire General] itsjusttim:
Its just amoled that does that.. your wasting your time trying that on lcd
[Desire General] shankly1985:
Thanks lol had phone for 1 year with black wallpaper :( that is a waste of time.
[Desire General] Evil_Cid:
I like SLCD for it's higher apparent screen resolution...AMOLED resolution is slightly lower
[Desire General] AkiraBBQ:
Just compared my AMOLED desire's screen to my friend's SLCD desire (White version, should be a SLCD :D). IMHO, SLCD is better for reading text, but the color accuracy is better on AMOLED (especially pure white/black color).
[Desire General] ReshamG:
SLCD are better in my personal experience. AMOLED not bad as well ;)
[Desire General] iYappi:
Don't like pink tint on AMOLED, so bought SLCD)
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adleyh2000:
Is there any way to change the color of the trackball from being white? I've seen other android phones do it but not sure if the hero can... same question for the led light at the top.. can it be changed from that green color for notifications?
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] illogic6:
You only have amber and green up top. White only for the trackball.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adleyh2000:
So there isn't a way to change the color for the led?
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shabbypenguin:
most android phones have a RGB LED for their notifaction, we only have red green as such you can have any color that is red green or orangey :D

if you were interested in swapping it out then yes in theory you could do more but those LED's are tiny and soldering them can be a pain
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adleyh2000:
Oh alright thanks for the info. Seems like a lot of work to do...lol

Rooted HTC Hero 2.1 ZenEXP
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] h4kudoshi:
Someone posted this in the other section of this forum not too long ago.

xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=725075&highlight=trackball (sorry not allowed to post links yet :P)

I really wanna try this out. The easy part is buying it.....
[Vibrant General] Xygod:
Any setting/way to make an app or hack for them to stay on for longer? It's so annoying that they turn off! :mad: