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[XPERIA X10 General] karthigan:
Hi!

I got my hands on ZAGG's invisibleSHIELD for X10, it's on the way thru delivery.

I saw their videos, and it's seem hype.

Anyone have personal experience with this product?

Also, right now, I have a rubber-not-so-tight-fit casing for the X10, but I want to get one that has tight-fit, real tight fit rubber casing to put on after the invisible shield? Recommendations?

Something in the lines that matches with iSkin, that the have for the "not so hype" iPhone... :)
[XPERIA X10 General] suzed:
If you go up a level to the Sony Xperia X10 menu page and have a look in the accessories subsection there is a lot of info on cases and screen protectors etc which might be helpful to you.
[XPERIA X10 General] bimmerboii:
I bought Zagg's full body invisible shield before for my SE Satio. They were difficult to apply. Also, the screen responsivenss was better on the stock screen protector. You dont really need to replace it if yours came with one. The Zagg screen protector feels sticky to the touch. Not so good on a capacitive screen
[XPERIA X10 General] needmoregigs:
Zagg's invisibleshield is horrible. My buddy got one for his x10, and I applied it. Every piece was not cut precise except the back cover. The front screen protector wasn't even cut straight. The left and right borders were tapered in the middle leaving about 2mm of space, on each side, between the border and the screen protector.

From my own experience with the product on my x1, the full body shield turns yellow and traps tons of dirt at the edges. It just looks cheap over time.
[XPERIA X10 General] ddewbofh:
Backcover? People actually _like_ having slippery backs? Imo the stock coating is optimal since it's very grippable, it's rugged and it doesn't gather any fingerprints.
[XPERIA X10 General] needmoregigs:
Well, I was just stating a fact that it does come with a back shield, and it's the best cut piece of the set. While I do like the bare back feel of the x10, the option is there for people to use it or not use it.
[XPERIA X10 General] citsym:
I got myself a Martin Fields screen protector. Applied it today. So far really loving it. Will review it soon.

InvisibleSHIELD is also supposed to be real good, but a pain to apply correctly.
[XPERIA X10 General] brunswick000:
I had the same experience with my Zagg sheild. Tappered sides and what not. Anyway I am not a fan. What I would like to know is if there is similiar screen shields to the ones for the iphone?? They have almost the texture of a sheet of paper, never streak and seem to provide excellent responsiveness. Im not sure of the different types of protectors but if someone knows of one like this let me know!

Also the Zagg shield on the back of the X10 is actually pretty sweet......its not slippery. In fact its the exact opposite. You can set the thing down on the dash of the car while charging and it will not slide around at all. But hey, if thats worth $20 then have at it.
[XPERIA X10 General] fredderson:
Not bad...

I have the invisibleSHIELD for my X10 and it's not to shab... but not too good...

As with one of the posts above, the front screen protector was not cut to fit properly; there is a gap on my screen about 1/4" on the right side, however the left side is flush. I emailed Zagg about it and they have sent me a new one and apologized that the case was damaged during shipping (although it was very clearly NOT damaged during shipping, it was just cut that way).

The rest of the case fits snug, but it does get dirty/sticky on the edges. I will be getting another case to put over it; likely the FlexiShield.

I personally like the feel of the screen protector more than the stock protector. I have both of them on right now and have no issues with the touchscreen whatsoever. The Zagg shield never fingerprints, but it would with the stock protector.

Overall, I would give the invisibleSHIELD a 7 out of 10. If I was rating the screen protector alone I would give it 8 out of 10 (points dinged for the improper fit, hopefully the replacement sits flush).

If you are like me and want a mint looking phone you might get a little frustrated by the scummy edges, however the material is strong and you will definitely not scratch anything. I recommend doing away with the full body case and just getting the screen cover in combination with another case!

Cheers!

Update: Received the replacement but the screen protector is even more tapered on the edges than my original. I've scrapped the shield and went with a plastic fitted case. Too bad, I really like the quality of the material. I'm going to try and get a refund.
[XPERIA X10 General] citsym:
Wow! Judging by the reviews, I am not glad that I went for MF instead of ZAGG.
[XPERIA X10 General] Zaslav:
I got protech which is essentially the same thing and I have to say its pretty good. I've used invisible sheiks in the past on a g1 and found it was easier to apply to the x10. You have to be really patient though if you leave the smallest air bubble on the edge as previously mentioned dirt and dust gets trapped underneath and starts to peel.
[XPERIA X10 General] tuxStyle:
I have full body Zagg ... it sux.

The size of the front part is not right so i have about 2mm on edges which are not covered.

The top, bottom and side parts are already gone.

The back part is still there ... for now.

I have a gadget shieldz full body.

I'll try it in about 2 weeks when the zagg will be gone.

Zagg lasted about 3 months.
[XPERIA X10 General] suzed:
I have the Martin Fields one bought from Mobile Fun. It is the biggest fingerprint magnet in the history of phones. I bought the double pack thinking I'd have a spare as back up. The actual screen applies beautifully but it has lifted in the top right hand corner near the proximity sensor. I managed to reapply it without taking it off totally but its still not perfect.

I want the same shield we bought for hubby's Iphone. Its a matt anti reflective one and shows no finger marks. I spend my life cleaning smudgy prints off mine.:(
[XPERIA X10 General] mezo9090:
To clear out what others said and my experience with zagg shield,

It all comes to how accurate are you when attaching it.

But if you want some advice, just put the back part only. The stock screen protector is much better, the side parts are too hard to put on.

and take care They are very stretchable. ..
[XPERIA X10 General] bjohnny85:
I agree, the Zagg screen protector makes the screen slightly sticky or something. Makes it hard to drag things across the screen like when moving cards in Solitaire etc. I'm on the lookout for a good screen protector now, wish i never removed the stock one!

I actually like the feel and look of the back protector and yes, the side and bottom protectors are a bit too finicky and strechy for clumsy people like me to put on properly!
[XPERIA X10 General] karthigan:
Painfull Installation - Happy Though!

Hey!

So, I finally had time over the weekend to apply the invisibleShield to my X10, the full-body, "maximum protection" version.

Just let me tell you:

(1) Painfull process - took nearly 2 hours from start to finish, minus break / re-doing time because i wasn't completely satisfied.

(2) Not enough solution - the spray bottle they gave is enough for 1 time installation only! No room for mistakes. Found out the solution was Johnson's brand baby shampoo & distilled water (I didn't have any distilled water, instead, used a new bottle water from Nestle brand) ... worked like a charm

(3) sizing - oh man! the sizing of the invisible shield is not perfect, except for the back piece ... front has gaps, 1/2mm or less on either side.

(4) Applying ... it took me about 3 times to get it right, fitted accordingly. That's how I ran out of the solutions.

(5) Squeeze is not good on small pieces, better to use a q-tip to slide thru the solutions off.

Overrall, it's a different feeling. Getting used to it.

Only thing I would ask ZAGG to do is: PROVIDE A BOTTLE WATER size of solution!!!! & correct sizing of the pieces.

- Just 1 or 2 mini bubbles seen just by me, otherwise, it's a charm!

Still, I got my hands on a iPhone 4 32GB as well, kit for that is coming soon. Should be easier ... :)

I wish they had Otter Box style casing for X10.
[XPERIA X10 General] naveen_reloaded:
tell us about fingerprint and screen clarity ...
[XPERIA X10 General] tuxStyle:
Clarity is ok.

Fingerprints ... way better than the original but still not good enough ...

Just don't drop sun protection lotion on your phone :)

You will need another invisible shield ...
[XPERIA X10 General] karthigan:
Fingerprint is not there, or atleast, very much of it is reduced. I am a clean freak, so, I clean it everyday before putting it to charge for the night.

Senstivity was something to get used to, little bit off in the beginning, but after the curing process of the invisibleshield, it works like a charm.

Anyways, I contacted ZAGG, they are sending me another full kit for the X10, since I complained about the sizing & not enough solutions ...

I have to wait for approx 1.5 weeks to receive, remove the old/existing one, and do it correct the 2nd time around.

Of course, i need to send back the one I have right now when I receive the other one...

I'll post a message on how my 2nd attempt went, (with extra bottle of solution, yeah! that's right! I demanded to the agent on the email for 2nd bottle of solution)...either way, baby shampoo & distilled water is good enough too.

Screen Clarity - 100% or 99.99% , unless you angle the phone differently in the light or reflection , you dont see it.
[XPERIA X10 General] what would homer do?:
I had the full body but took it off.

I bought the white X10 in dubai, like everyone else said fitted poorly and bleeds the colours from your case, I had to take it off as everyone was saying how battered the phone looked after a month.

It is pretty bullet-proof though, sure it must look better on the black phone!
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
I bought the Zagg Screen Protector (just the protector) for roughly $20 CAD, and though it took me a couple of hours to get on (:p) its just amazing. It does feel a bit different at first than the original screen, but it really is extremely tough. My friend tried scratching my X10's screen with a coin and nothing really happened to it... could see a few minor scratches and after a couple of days the scratches were all gone. Definitely recommend it for any clumsy X10 owners. Haven't had any problems with the fit either.. it fit perfectly for me
[XPERIA X10 General] C3LL0PHANE:
You obviously did not put it on right at all. IF put on CORRECTLY it fits PERFECTLY. Mind you I never got the back, cause really... who does that? Also when put on CORRECTLY you never end up with it turning yellow or dirt getting trapped underneath.

I had one for my iPhone before that I didn't put on right and dirt did get underneath, and it did turn yellow. That's why I was extra careful with this one and the same with my girlfriends. Took about 2 minutes to apply as well. The screen seems just as responsive as before. But hey, some of us get annoyed and impatient then rant on blogs because they messed up and blame the product.
[XPERIA X10 General] juke05:
Cellophane you couldn't be more right.

When applied correctly the ZAGG products are amazing. I have one on my x10 and its absolutely amazing... just like any screen it needs to be maintained and protected still, hence why you have dirt building up on the side of the screen. Mine was applied perfectly (only the front of course) and this thing has gone through a couple tumbles without any scratches or marks.
[XPERIA X10 General] drifto319:
my invisible shield for my x10 works great, it was just really hard to put on properly
[XPERIA X10 General] superleeds27:
think im going to try my luck with the Zaggs X10 Screen protector. Don't see the need for a full cased one!
[XPERIA X10 General] AKA_Rizzo:
a few tips for future searchers of Zagg products.

1 If you we're never any good at applying decals to models then this is NOT the product for you. It's more tedious than tinting your car windows as the phone is so much smaller.

2 Follow the directions,allow time for it to sit. Nothing good is ever quick.

3 If you have a set of Hobby Magnifying Glasses they may help.

Truths:

Yes it has more drag to it. If I toss my phone on the table battery side down the I.S. will grip so well the phone will come away from the back. This is partly due to the poor Eternity battery cover security to begin with.

Yes you can "Mar" the surface, It's not a scratch but more a blemish. This is not something you can feel or see with the screen on. That's what I get for using an Arch Welding Electrode as a stylus. :D

Yes if you get a corner to curl in the first week you have a chance at getting it to stick back by using the spray provided. After that the previous statements are true,It's gonna stay curled.

I bought the Zagg I.S. for my Eternity. I have had the same screen part for two years. True, The sides just suck,but how much do you expect from such a very slim slice of the product.

I have never had to warranty any of it,It's lasted this whole time.

I have abused my phone to no end and the product kept my phone looking brand new.

See I work at a steel plant and we make cast abrasive products. My job is to make stuff that removes flashing from steel,aluminum and other materials, Like your brake rotors.

I made the decision to get an HTC Aria,So this made the Eternity "Junk Drawer" Bound. So I removed the battery cover panel I.S.

The piece looks 95% brand new. It's been 2 years and I wear it all day at work and under cars and such.

The front does show some wear where I scroll the most but these areas become invisible when I turn the screen on.

visit Metaltec Steel Abrasives to see where I work and that should speak for the product. I work right on the floor with the grease,grit,ferrous dust,rust,dirt and have had no problems with this product. Phone is on my hip the whole shift.

If I find out the the capacitive screen will still work under the screen protector then I will pay the $14.xx for it again.

Cheers.
[XPERIA X10 General] zodiac.thr:
I dont think you should get it. It is really bad. I took mine off after 2 weeks since dust was collecting around the edge.

I think zagg is much better on Iphone. The curve of the X10 make it hards to install and look ugly (especially if u have the white x10)
[Droid X General] Despiadado1:
I want to start this discussion because I haven't seen it anywhere and I read several Android forums. I love the platform and it's "openess" but it seems that requirements from Google fall just short of making this the best platform ever for handsets.

We are all screaming at Motorola about the signed bl but we aren't focusing enough on the greater issue. The Android license from Google seems to allow this or maybe it is less specific to Google than to some other entity but I don't speak lawyerese so i'm not sure. Anyway, here is what I keep reading from Motorola...

"The use of open source software, such as the Linux kernel or the Android platform, in a consumer device does not require the handset running such software to be open for re-flashing. We comply with the licenses, including GPLv2, for each of the open source packages in our handsets"

My point of discussion is this, why aren't we asking Google what they can do? Why can't Google simply state that "we will not allow our software to be damaged in this way"? Why do they allow Verizon, at&t, Motorola, HTC or anyone else manipulate their software in a way that brings so much resentment? Is it not in Google's best interest to force this platform to remain open? I realize this is a double edged sword because open means people can do what they want, which holds true for companies also but I think that everyone realizes that Google's intent was that this would benefit everyone, not just the companies.

Also, everyone seems to forget that HTC is messing around with trying to lock down the NAND. Just because geniuses get past the protection doesn't mean that HTC isn't trying. If the Droid X is a huge success, even with this restriction in place, then what makes any of you think that the rest will not follow suit?
[Droid X General] Cathbad09:
Because open means that you can do whatever you want with it. There is nothing stopping anyone from using it, modifying it for their own uses, and putting it in any device that would support it. That's why a company can strip down all of Google stuff from it and put Bing if they want to, and Google wouldn't be able to complain. The whole point of open and free software is that you compete by actually being the best at something. You keep Google stuff in Android because well, they work best.

Now, when you put Android in a device you manufacture, you do have the rights to do whatever you want with the device. This seems to be a hardware protection on top of the software ones. You know how DRM'd mp3 stop working? well, it's not much different, except that now there is physical damage.

True, these measures defeat the whole purpose of being open, but what the heck. Being truly open means making a great product, and then not complaining when someone grabs it and beats you with it. You have are always competing to deliver the best product, and that's why open is awesome.

Who was it that said: "I can't agree with what you are saying, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"?
[Droid X General] Ryan Frawley:
Open goes both ways. The company (Motorola) has every right to lock down the bootloader and prevent others from flashing.

You guys are looking at it as if Motorola did this to prevent people from flashing custom roms. The real reason they did it was to prevent others from stealing their rom and porting it to another phone. If you like the "ninjablur" UI, you need to buy the DroidX.
[Droid X General] Zaphod-Beeblebrox:
Actually, I don't agree. I'm pretty sure one could extract those widgets if you really wanted to. (They "Ain't all that" if you ask me. - And yes, I did buy an X yesterday and love it. Just ain't crazy about those widgets).

I think the real reason this is locked down is to prevent custom ROM/Root access to enable tethering. There are other issues I'm sure, but at the top of the list is to protect that revenue Big Red is trying to generate.

As to Google 'Stopping' the carriers from locking this down, please understand that if the carriers can't protect their revenue streams, they simply won't allow the phones on their network, and that would hinder the growth of the OS in general.

Don't take any of my words as endorsement of VZW/Moto actions. I'll be first in line to flash/root my phone when/if its ever possible. I'm just a realist. VZW wants $20/month for WiFi Tether. They are going to do as much as reasonably possible to keep you from doing that for free.

In a related note, 2.2 Froyo does tethering natively. I expect this to be crippled/disabled when we get our update in a couple of months.
[Droid X General] Despiadado1:
I don't agree with the idea that companies would stop supporting the platform. The Droid has been a cash cow for verizon and it is an open book. Google could easily ask that their platform remain open for all to enjoy.

Beyond that, if Google allows them to gimp their OS then Google has created something entirely for the benefit of companies and not at all for the general population. I don't believe this is true. I think that the changes will start with Android v3.0. Google will start getting more pissy about custom crap especially if it makes their product seem worse and increase the chance that Android will be looked upon negatively.
[Droid X General] FtL1776:
Its the same problem with windows, the OS gets blamed for what hardware vendors do to it... we see this $400 computers getting compared to Apples $1500+ computers and thats some how proof windows sucks, I never had problems with Vista being slow, but people and there $400 computer did.

The problem with Android, specifically the scrolling smoothness, is the vendors custom Android OS setups...
[Droid X General] Mikerrrrrrrr:
To be fair, I think the scrolling smoothness is half crappy hardware and half Android's lack of hardware acceleration.
[Droid X General] FtL1776:
No some custom roms fix those issues because they enable the hardware acceleration, which again shows that Google really should crack down on some of these custom versions of Android on phones.
[Droid X General] Ryan Frawley:
Motorola has said so itself. The reason Droid X is locked down is because they don't want people stealing their custom UI. Widgets are only part of this UI. The inability to flash custom roms is merely a consequence of protecting their UI.
[Droid X General] Mikerrrrrrrr:
Ah. Didn't know that.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Donnie87:
Hi guys

I've had this topaz since 1 year.

unfortunately 20 days ago I found out that the touchscreen was not working any good, it remained pressing sometimes, and sometimes it didn't press at all.

So i found out that I had "newton rings" on the digitizer. It was time to change it

So i found out that http://www.g-plushk.com/ had the digitizer very cheap (about 9$).

So i bought it and saturday it came

I was very afraid to do the job, as I really love my topaz.

luckily everything went well...

NOW, 5 days after, I have newton rings AGAIN!!!!

the touchscreen works totally fine, but it makes me crazy that estetically it has the newton rings again..

what should I do? why this happened?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bruce Inman:
Try to uncompress the layers with duct tape, especially if the touch screen still operates.

Is it possible that you caused it during installation?

If not, I would try to figure out what is causing it (phone in pocket, etc.) and maybe get a case or something.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Donnie87:
no it's not possible that I caused during installation because it appeared only today! I checked it first :(

can it be just cheap quality?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jdwilson:
Question: Could it be just cheap quality?

Digitizer---$9.....just thinking...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Donnie87:
well don't think that the genuine/original HTC digitizer would cost much more at them..

anyway, where can I buy it a good quality digitizer?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Johev:
Hi all, for all the people like me who do not have the patience or knowledge do adventure themselves in the mitty thread.

This program already exists for X1, HD2, TP2 (for what I know) and I have tested it and it works.

After some search on this forum I have talked to agent_47, who was kind enough to make a task29 program for our HTC Diamonds (GSM version).

Agent_47 or me do not take any responsibility for ay damage done to your device. Use it at your own risk, and only after you have HSPL already installed on your device.

Do not know what a HSPL is, check here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=415191

and I would add to agent_47, as he adapted this tool for the HTC Diamond
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] baklavoni:
Did anyone tried this?

What's the verdict?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] eXPerience1983:
mmm. interesting.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] wapvirus:
Thanks for the share and all your hard work but this is actually harder than mitty for me and i am a windows 7 user also :confused:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Johev:
I do not understand how this is possible, I am using Vista and this is as easy as flashing a ROM with a computer. You just connect the device via USB to the Diamond, let active sync finish. Then you just need to run "ROMUpdateUtility.exe" and follow the instructions.

I have tested this, and I can confirm this is working for the European HTC Diamond (bought in Portugal).

This was not made by me, but I do think that more people will benefit with this program. Hopefully people will overcome the initial resistance to change.