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[Captivate General] felipehcampos:
Is that the MT-SIM on the unlockitnow page? They have 3 types of turbo-sim. 2 for iphone and this one, But the i897 isn't on the list of supported models.
[Captivate General] Croak:
Don't order the SIM directly...order the unlock code, then they will offer to send you the proper SIM once they tell you they can't provide a code. Ends up being $14.00 USD, but you're sure to get the right one.

Mine has been flawless for the last day and a half, and that includes several reboots, software flashing, lost signal in elevators and parkades, manual setting of airplane mode, etc.
[Captivate General] Eldorado_:
The iphone is a special case and is listed under it's own rules and regulations. It is not governed by the 90 day / 10 month / exclusivity rules that their other phones are.
[Captivate General] nickbarbs:
Recieved another turbo sim from ebay.. this one worked great all of last night.

Then I get up this morning and my phone has lost signal (??) I checked carefully if it was still seated correctly between my sim card and the phone, everything seems fine. Power on / Reboot doesnt change it. Now the phone's been sitting all day with no signal.. seems like the turbo sim stopped working. I had the same problem with the previous one.

Any advice? i've dropped yet another 10£ by ordering from unlockitnow.com..
[Captivate General] xuemike:
Hi Croak quick question, are you on Rogers network?

If so what is the sim card model your using.

From my research based on turbo sims the best results are that 4000 series numbers don't work as well as older model sims when turbo sim are in place.
[Captivate General] juanchoverd:
I've experienced this continually with the two turbo sims i've tried. If you want it to get signal again remove the sim from the phone and use it with another working phone (just make sure that the phone gets signal and is working), and then put it back in your captivate. If that doesn't work try using the sim WITH the turbosim on a working phone and the put it back in your captivate.

It will start up again, but it probably won't be long until you lose the signal again. I've stopped using the turbo sims and I'm waiting for another solution.
[Captivate General] nickbarbs:
Just did what you advised and I get signal for first 15 seconds of a phone reboot.. then it drops off.

Poor.

Hopefully Unlockit now can send me a better turbo sim and at least I can yell at them if it does the same thing...

Dont mind having to do airplane mode on the tube but cutting out randomly like this wont work for me obviously.
[Captivate General] juanchoverd:
Let me know if the unlockitnow turbosim works for you :)
[Captivate General] mjl2610:
Long time lurker, first time poster, also had to get back on XDA now that i dont have a iphone or motorola anymore. I also am a bit angry with ATT over this whole "exclusive device" bs. Also looking for a solution to unlock my captivate soon. I am a long standing att customer and they just will not budge. :mad::mad:
[Captivate General] dfalls:
I am our company phone administrator. We have 20 phones. I did the whole call, put in a request and got the request denied immediately. The emails for the request and the denial came at the same time. Called back and talked to a supervisor and got no where.

I am going to be in China for 2 weeks starting next week and would like to be able to use my nice new shiny phone but it looks like I won't be able to. That leaves me with three choices. Use my captivate and roam for $2/min, Use my old phone which is not nearly as capable, return my captivate and buy an unlocked Galaxy S for $600.

AT&T has never cared about their customers and this is just another of the many instances.
[Captivate General] Croak:
Telus and Bell, and there really are no older SIMS with them since the HSPA network is less than a year old. **** Rogers. :)

Mine is still working fine, but I don't use GSM/EDGE connection at all, which may have something to do with it. Bellus is HSPA only, in case you were wondering.
[Captivate General] nickbarbs:
Just mucking about re-programming this freaking turbo sim in hopes that I get a better result... not sure what my Mode type is but anyway.

NOthing works.

Why would it work for about 12 hours then quit on me? Makes no sense.
[Captivate General] mjl2610:
On my lunch break today ima try to go to downtown chicago hit up a small shop and see if i can get one of those turbosim things or whatever.
[Captivate General] mack:
for people having trouble with the sim and reception. PLEASE READ MY PREVIOUS POSTS.

it is a common issue with these sim hacks. your unlock sim thing is not broken. You have to do something people referred to as sim CPR.

1. have an phone thats locked to your sim card or unlocked but the phone MUST HAVE 3G if you want 3G connectivity.

2. take your sim out and put it into a phone that accepts it. power that on and wait until you have full reception and data.

3. pull the battery and quickly put your sim back into the Captivate with that sim hack. power it back on and it should work fine.

repeat whenever you cannot get reception/data.

It sucks but thats the only work-around. I am going almost 1 week without reception or data crapping out on me. Purchased for 4 dollars on dealextreme.
[Captivate General] MasterN02:
I spoke to AT&T Tech Support today since AT&T service went out in the entire state of KY...RIDICULOUS...I know.

However, I mentioned that I couldn't wait until I got my Captivate. She told me that one of the guys she works with has one and loves it. I then said something about them not being able to unlock it due to the exclusivity. She said that the "laws have recently changed" and they "should be able to unlock it for me" without any problem. Maybe you all should try giving them another call and then asking to speak with Tech Support. I won't need mine to be unlocked; however, if you do, it might be worth a try.

Oh yeah, by the way, still no service in Lexington...glad I don't have my Captivate yet...I'd be REALLY pissed...LOL! But, then again, that's what Wi-Fi is for!
[Captivate General] mjl2610:
No dice with the "turbo sim" solution at local shops in chicago. Called Att again and requested an unlock, rep escalated it to "higher ups" to see what that would do. I'm assuming nothing but we shall see what happens.:rolleyes:
[Captivate General] ebkbk:
10 months

I tried two online unlocking services, nothing. I talked to at&t twice, the last time they put me on the phone with a resolution specialist and she said they are exclusive for at least 10 months, more if they renew. Not looking good. Cant we do like we did with the iphone? Get some hackers to crack it? Keep this thread alive. I paid $429 newer for mine as is from craigslist. I need to get away from my my touch.
[Captivate General] alexhaj:
Unlock Exists!

Any you najrats see this...

youtube.com/watch?v=rxVeRbhidqw

Nows alls wees needs to does is find out where's he gots it's.
[Captivate General] applebook:
Well, at least in the meantime, you can use it as a super-iPod Touch :(
[Captivate General] applebook:
How much did you guys pay in Customs, and will you get the payment back since you are returning it? I did the opposite as you folks: returned my Bell model and purchased a T-Mobile from eBay. I am NOT going to be forced into using Bell.
[Captivate General] newspeak:
Hey I don't know if this will help or if its already been brought up but the tmobile vibrant can definitely be unlocked ....and since it has utms 1900 it will work on att ....i can confirm this because I got mine unlocked to test it...again prolly old news but its about the same as buying an unlocked i9000 anyway with added flexibly to work on aws networks as well
[Captivate General] Mikroft:
Someone try this: http://cgi.ebay.com/Unlock-Code-Sam...ETWORK-/130415669966?pt=UK_Phones_Software_RL
[Captivate General] nickbarbs:
When I do this, I get signal for a small amount of time, then it stops working again (15 seconds)
[Captivate General] Croak:
I didn't pay anything to Customs, I had it in my pocket and I was on my motorcycle. :)

After a week with the Bell Vibrant, I'm actually glad the Captivate was locked, giving me a solid excuse to return it.

The Bel Vibrant/I9000 is simply a better device to use, period. Doesn't look as good, but it works a lot better, much easier in the hand, more mod friendly, and 3 buttons are the absolute way to go with Android IMHO...once you use that layout, going back to 4-button capacitive is just, well, ass.

Pretty sure that the big reason ALL of the US models of the Galaxy S have fully capacitive buttons is just so they have room for carrier branding AND Samsung on the front of the device.
[Captivate General] alphadog00:
Just about any T-Mo unlocked phone will work on AT&T, but you will only get Edge, not 3G. This is why I didn't buy an unlocked i9000 import - no 3G. Why have a super phone that surfs the web at bag phone speed.
[Captivate General] catire:
Actually AT&T 3G works on the 1900 and 850 mhz band, and the Vibrant works with the 1900 one, 3G wont work in every single place but it can work.
[Captivate General] xtsuname:
No it won't. The way that att 3g works is that there is a seperate uplink and downlink frequency. So if you don't have both 1900 and 850 you'll get only edge.

By the way, you sure the vibrant has 1900? So it's 900, 1700, 1900, 2100?

Is that a new 3g chip?
[Captivate General] Eldorado_:
got my piece from unlockitnow.com -- working perfectly on Fido - -I'll keep everyone posted..
[Captivate General] mjl2610:
Very nice, I have just received confirmation that unlockitnow will sent me out the "SIM bypass" solution as they call it. Once this comes in I will also report my trials with it until codes are released.
[Captivate General] pinoymutt:
For the record:

Standard GSM (2G) is on 850/1900 (US-Canada) and 900/1800 (Rest of the world)

Quad-band phones include all 4 of these GSM bands.

3G however, is UTMS (or also WCDMA) - a technology that is not backward compatible with 2G.

ATT (Captivate) 3G is on 850/1900

T-Mo USA (Vibrant) 3G is on 1700/2100

International (Asia and Europe) 3G is 2100/1900/900

I don't remember correctly if ATT uses one for uplink and the other freq for downlink (I believe it does), but do I know that TMO USA definitely does use one for down and the other for up -- which is why you can't just grab an international 3G (2100) phone and expect it to have complete 3G on TMO USA unless it has the 1700 band as well.

ATT includes 2100 on its world phones just to ensure compatibility overseas, especially for countries like Japan and S. Korea that don't use GSM, but use a compatible WCDMA 2100 band (up and down). (For the record, I'm glad I didn't get my wife the Aria because I took for granted and didn't realize it doesn't have 2100 and we just traveled to Japan).

Bottom line this is why you see specs like broken out like this:

Captivate:

GSM Quad-band phone capable of global roaming (850/900/1800/1900 MHz)

UMTS tri-band global 3G (2100/1900/850 MHz)

Vibrant:

GSM Quad-band phone capable of global roaming (850/900/1800/1900 MHz)

UMTS T-Mobile 3G (1700/2100 MHz)

Remember even if the GSM and UMTS numbers sit on the same MHz frequency, the BANDS are different. Unless you've got ALL the right UMTS BANDS, you are going to be stuck with Edge using a Vibrant on AT&T and a Captivate on TMO USA.
[Captivate General] Croak:
Just to keep this on track, I finally got around to taking a couple pictures of my "SIM bypass solution" from unlockitnow.

You don't NEED to trim your SIM card like I did, but in the Captivate, with the tight clearances, if you don't trim, you get a bigger gap between the battery cover and the sides of the phone, and on a I9000, it actually causes a bulge in the paper-thin battery cover.
[Captivate General] nickbarbs:
looks like they're sending out X-Sims.

Manufacturer website is most likely http://www.super-xsim.com/
[Captivate General] Croak:
Mine has a quite a few less traces on it compared to the xsim pictures. Similar looking, but once again, not the same.
[Captivate General] mack:
seems like he changed his post. saying theres problems with the USA unlock code server. bad news as all other unlock sites are experiencing the same thing.
[Captivate General] Croak:
The "unlock server" being a guy named Hong in the Tech Department at AT&T or Bell, who works the late shift, and is saddened to find that his "supplemental income source" has been locked down tight by stricter polices. That's where most of the early unlock codes come from.

Bell and AT&T both got "smart" about the Galaxy phones (and since they have shared ownership, it's probably the same smart people) and didn't put the codes out there where they could be dug up by internal leaking any time soon.

Samsung is also toeing the line on this launch, so they aren't a source of internal leakage either. They couldn't unlock a i897/I9000M via code if they wanted to, since they don't have the full decryption keys, only AT&T (and Bell) have them.

T-Mobile didn't give two ****s, nobody else in the world except a couple of doomed small carriers in Canada even use the same network as them. But you'll notice that the unlocking services are not unlocking the T-Mobile Vibrant, just T-Mobile is.
[Captivate General] Eldorado_:
very untrue. TMobile uses the same bands as Wind in Canada, which I would hardly call a "doomed small carrier". It's one of the fastest growing telecom companies in Canadian history. Just wait for the 2-3 year mark for them when Rogers/Fido customers start exiting their current contracts to move over (or threaten).. *that* is when pricing is going to get really sweet on all accounts.

Unlocking services DO offer unlocks for the TMo Vibrant -- my buddy won an ebay auction, and 6 hours later got the code. It took my other buddy 3 days to fax in and get his code direct from TMo.

To everyone using the unlockitnow TurboSim... I cant get data to work unless I enable international roaming.. is this normal?

Also, I'm having a problem recieving text messages... sending messages and other phone abilities working 100% so far... and i did get a few texts when i first used it.. but tonight, nothing... any ideas?
[Captivate General] Mikroft:
Ah.. Too bad. Oh well I ordered an HTC Desire with the new superlcd for now.
[Captivate General] applebook:
But Croak is still right about TMO phones being less desirable to most of the world because few use 1700/2100. One of the reasons why I went with the TMO Galaxy is because I will be using Wind soon, but come on, it is a tiny company at the moment, and frankly, if the Bell version could be unlocked right now, I wouldn't have bothered with the TMO.
[Captivate General] ozy944:
Now that the GPS issue seems like its getting somewhere...seems like a good idea for us to contribute to the Captivate sim unlock bounty...(obviously if you want it done like I do :) ).

Devs/Hackers willing to attempt an unlock will only come once a significant pool of $$$ is available to compensate them for their time and effort. Turbo sims seem to be working on and off and lets face it, theyre only a stop gap measure.

Very curious to see what the Rogers release (hopefully on the 20th) does to the availiability of unlock codes.........
[Captivate General] nickbarbs:
I'd complain to unlock it now, since you purchased an unlock, if this isnt working right you can alwyas try to get your money back.

as far as you're concerned they sold you an unlock if it doesnt work 100% they need to help.
[Captivate General] mjl2610:
So while you were testing it or using the bypass they gave you, you noticed that your messages were not coming in from time to time? Or it stopped entirely?
[Captivate General] Eldorado_:
the phone works 100%

but occasionally calls or text messages dont come through.

however data, and outbound calls/texts work just fine.

I'm happy with it until I get it unlocked for real.
[Captivate General] raychang:
I called AT&T yesterday and was able to talk to the supervisor. I asked her if the locking period for Samsing Captivate is 90 days or 10 months. She said AT&T will continue the claim of the exclusivity and will lock it forever as like the case of iphones.

I am in the last few days of the 30 days remorse period, and hope to have enough info to make the correct decision. If the Turbo Sim is good enough, then I don't have to return the Captivate.
[Captivate General] Rad_Fishy:
I finally got my phone last night in the mail and I'm loving it so far. I called into AT&T for the first time this morning to try my luck with an unlock code and got an agent who just said my device is not available for unlocking and pointed me in the direction of http://www.attlockinglawsuits.com/. I guess I'll try again later.
[Captivate General] Croak:
Chatr is the first shot across the WIND bow, Bell and Telus will probably answer the challenge soon as well. I don't think WIND will survive a concentrated attack by all three major carriers. At best, they'll suffer the fate of FIDO.

To get back to the unlockitnow TurboSim, since the phone is still carrier locked, it still knows what the carrier network ID is in the firmware, and whenever you're not on it, it thinks it's roaming. So yep, you'll need to allow Data Roaming.

When (if) we can unlock them properly, that roaming should go away, as the phone will let the inserted SIM card overwrite/override its carrier ID info.

I still have no problems with a Telus SIM, but a Bell SIM is a bit spotty on incoming, (some do get through, some go to VM) though data/outgoing works fine.
[Captivate General] dfalls:
SIM

Anyone have any ideas how I can test an unlock or turbo sim without access to a non-ATT sim. I won't have my China Unicom SIM until I get to China and I live in an erea that is dominated by Verizon and AT&T. I may be able to find an old China Sim around the office, maybe. Is there a way to test it without a sim? Is there a way to get a different providers sim? any ideas?
[Captivate General] Croak:
Just borrow one from somebody, a T-Mobile will do the trick, doesn't matter if it's active or not. If it doesn't prompt you to either insert a SIM card or enter the unlock code, the TurboSIM is fooling it.

Actually connecting to the network is a different issue, and even testing it on one network won't guarantee it'll work ok on another, as far as connectivity goes.
[Captivate General] dfalls:
But finding anyone in this area that is on a GSM carrier other than AT&T is impossible. EVERYONE in on AT&T or Verizon(not campatible). I have never heard of anyone in this area being on anything other than those two.
[Captivate General] ebkbk:
Bounty

I would add to the bounty if i had any idea if there was a software engineer lurking trying to wait for the bounty to get big enough. I see nothing. I had the unlock site that everyone is getting the sim adaptors from offer me one saying "you phone is hardlocked" and to send my address, i requested a refund. I would rather port the money to the bounty. Can someone who does this kind of hack please just say what you need and if it is something you think you could do.
[Captivate General] Croak:
Is there a T-Mobile store near you? Radio Shack? Best Buy? If so you should be able to talk a rep into letting your use a SIM for just a minute while in the store.
[Captivate General] alphadog00:
When i jailbroke and unlocked my iphone i ordered a prepaid T-Mo SIM from T-Mo web site. It came with 10 minutes for $5.99 and free shipping. The other option is to buy a prepaid phone at walmart for $30 - T-Mo used to have some there.

It costs money, but if you must test before you travel, it is a cheap option. Keep in mind that a lot of PiggyBack SIMs work fine to start with, and then fail as time goes on.
[Captivate General] dfalls:
Thanks. I ended up going to Best Buy and getting a prepaid tmobile phone. Now I have a tmobile sim and a somewhat anonymous phone for when I have to turn my crazy neighbor in to the city.

AlphaDog I was about 5 minutes ahead of you but great ideas!!
[Captivate General] n1tro:
Got my Captivate unlocked on Rogers sim yesterday using turbo sim. Had to reset phone for it to recognize the turbosim/rogers sim. Issues from the start were...

no 3G

calling my number sends caller directly to voice mail

Fixes...

3G - go into phone settings and manually register phone to rogers network and make apn profile with internet.com as apn, leave everything else default

calls to voicemail - I guess this has something to do with the turbo sim and at&t settings. to fix, go to call settings and get phone to retrieve network default. once I did that, calls come in. Mind you, I can make calls fine during this period. So gets tricky because status bars show full signal, you can surf fine, and make outgoing calls but then your friends tell you they can't call you because it goes to voicemail directly :( Have to do procedure again if battery dies or rebooting phone

Temporary fix until codes are released but better than having a glorified PDA :)
[Captivate General] techspy:
Hey guys, I have my ibrant unlocked via a code from ebay and it worked perfect and I use it on ATT. What is strange is that I have had to unoock it about 4 times. Usually this is after having to do a reboot after an app has hung. Sometimes it is after the whole phone has locked up and I have to do a battery pull. I thought that once it was unlocked, that was it and it would never need to be unlocked again. Anyone have any idea how to make the unlock "stick"?

Thanks
[Captivate General] Eldorado_:
I had the exact same issues as you. The 3G thing was an easy enough fix.

The calls being sent to voicemail (I bet most texts weren't reaching you too) I didn't try that fix.. I will try it tonight.

Mine seemed to work if I pulled the sim out for a few minutes then put it back in... then incoming calls/texts would show up again briefly and then they would stop coming in again.
[Captivate General] n1tro:
Just noticed something. Phone would also not receive calls if I had my wifi enabled. Once turned off and the 3G logo came back on, calls came through. Text messages come through fine too. Didn't have to pull sim card out. So so far, using a turbo sim, scenarios where calls would go straight to voicemail are...

wifi enabled

phone connected to computer and trying use kies
[Captivate General] makarius:


Ok ive been using turbo sim for a while now and I manage to fix the 3g problem but not the incoming calls. I tried ur fix bit when i go to call settings how do i get the phone rrtrieve the network?
[Captivate General] n1tro:
Just change a setting, save, then change it back to network default and it should get the settings from the network.

After more testing, I did notice that the turbo sim would stop working (nothing changed on my part) and only way to get it to recognize again was to stick the sim into another phone and then put it back in the galaxy with the turbo sim again.

Got my hands on a vibrant locked to bell and will do some testing and see same stuff applies.

Stuff I noticed so far on the vibrant/captivate is that on the captivate, you don't have the mobile AP program (turns phone to a router) and on the vibrant, it is using an older webkit browser!?
[Captivate General] ron_barcello:
UNLOCK Code from ebay?

Hey techspy

Could you give us the seller (ebay) name from him?

Maybe he could unlock our Captivates also :D
[Captivate General] techspy:
Sure,

http://shop.ebay.com/unlockadic/m.html
[Captivate General] Eldorado_:
talked to him a while ago (he unlocked a buddy's vibrant).. he cant do the captivate.
[Captivate General] ron_barcello:
:mad:

Great - again no solution unless Rogers launch her phone this week and hopefully att change his policy....
[Captivate General] Haitian:
Hi Folks,

I have read all of these pages. Has anyone tried the site "Cell Corner"

The page says the "unlock by code" is "NEW" for the Samsung Captivate I897

Sorry, being new they won't let me post the link.
[Captivate General] mack:
anyone want to try that?
[Captivate General] Rad_Fishy:
Does anybody know the name of the app that AT&T CSRs use to look up unlock codes? I grew up in a town that has a small AT&T call center. If I knew the name of the program I could probably get some of them to see if they have access to it.