yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[EVO 4G General] dkdude36:
ya thanks for backing me up. this is my point, just less pissed off...

it doesnt matter if x is watching z while y does something else as u say it... most things on here besides preferance on roms is fact. aka dont pull battery while updating radio, dont mess up your hboot partitons, and wipe both caches to remove room for error.

believe it or not, cwm has caused many people to permanently brick their rsa keys, definetly doesnt wipe dalvik correctly, and greatly annoys me and other almost-devs when we try to make flashables in the easier, more workable amend script.

edit: i have and probably will again, flash something using rom manager when i dont want to go sorting to a download 5 folders deep with my volume keys. always though this has been a small addition or app placement, and nothing big, because i cant wipe caches if i do it this way. yes it is a good tool, but it should not be your main way to flash roms.

it was built for easier devices without wimax or nand lock, and was incorperated into the evo for the noobs.

if you are one of those newbs who uses rom manager on every flash, then i dont think you should be dissing my info while i'm trying to help somebody not brick their newly rooted evo. you really had no reason or right to call me out like that...

double edit: i thanked the dudes who backed me up/agreed with me...
[EVO 4G General] fiddy619:
Now that is definitely why I'm using RA 2.3...

Sent from my CeEvO
[EVO 4G General] Gilbot:
I was rocking SalvageMod and decided to give nightly 17 a go and This happened to me -__-. I searched around and was able to fix it with testdisk-6.11.3. nightly 17 was also a buttload of problems for me: Unable to gain root, install busybox and flashing the latest gapps didn't seem to work as the apps were not truely installed.

I won't be flashing until RC3 or a final is released.
[EVO 4G General] dkdude36:
ironically, you didnt wipe, did you?
[EVO 4G General] marcusva79:
I think the nightlies will be 3 days apart.
[EVO 4G General] Avid Droidery:
I always wipe after I take a ****.

Lmfao

- Posted via mobile
[EVO 4G General] fiddy619:
Hahahaha lmfao

Sent from my CeEvO
[EVO 4G General] fiddy619:
Huh?

Sent from my CeEvO
[EVO 4G General] brofist:
Blow it out your arse.

Kernel changes and "lol same kernel" are not even close to being the same thing.

Kernel changes refer to bumps. Nightly flashes under the same kernel number are treated as the same.

Oh boy, we now have you assuming facts. Cute.

I've never had a simple nightly flash destroy my (nm) cache. Never.

ROMs are inheritly unable to cooperate with extreme amounts of rewrites. Its never smart to destroy your ROM prematurely.

But, uh, resorting to ad ignoramous? Are you a (wait for it) 8th grader? ;D

And forgive me if I'm wrong, but release version 3.0.0 added Amend scripting to CWM.

Your information is misguided, thank you sir.

And I'll damn well use peen wagging as a form of describing childish displays of waving their electronic phallus.

I'll wait for you to be the man that hands me my paycheck or the man that puts words on my teleprompter before I listen to your censorship. (and) Even then I'll tell you to ask kindly.
[EVO 4G General] dkdude36:
wtf is this all about?

first of all, i dont give a crap if you have never gotten messed up because you flashed a nightly without wiping. i'm trying to help out somebody new who needed some help. i was giving him basic guidelines, and then you come in calling my info 'misguided'

second, you ARE wrong. 3.0 added support for edify scripting, which had never before been written by many people. the only devs i know that wrote in edify before cwm 3.0 was the unrevoked team. so yeah, check your facts so you dont get topped by somebody in middle school...

and once again, yes. kernel changes and (quoting you) 'lol same kernel' are different. but it can still mess you up. the cm team commits many kernel changes between each nightly so flashing one over another without even wiping could cause bad issues, or just a small drop in performace or battery life, or even nothing... but better safe than sorry...

i think its hilarious that you come in here, wagging around your "seven letter words" like phallus seriously wtf? are you trying to get me to bow down to you for using the word phallus? and you called me 'cute'?????? creepy...

i have to admit, i took the time to look at your recent posts, and it looks like you have some experience, and do like big words (last_kmesg and the likes) but you are wrong here, had no right to call me out, and are wrong, childish, and just plain rude in doing so...

seriously, why phallus?
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
/sigh brofist

I don't know what's worse honestly..

Reading his sig then calling him an 8th grader thinking it was clever or... actually having an internet fight with an eighth grader.

Whatever, you threw around enough big words . We all know you're super smart, can we let it go now.
[EVO 4G General] brofist:
Then why don't we recommend full wipes with every flash? Better to be safe than sorry, as you so often repeat.

There's safe and then there is overkill.

I'm not throwing large words around.

I'm using cute to describe your easy condescension from equal arguments to assumptions and ignorance.

Phallus is a different way to phrase e-dongs. Since you don't like me using e-peen so much, I figured I'd use a different word to describe the same thing.

What's childish about telling someone to not instantly direct a new user to the hard road because their own personal experience is not yet to the level of mine or your own.

And yes, I went off fuzzy memory on CWM's support of scripts, which I am deeply sorry for, but I did even mention "forgive me if I'm wrong". I'm willing to admit when I'm wrong.
[EVO 4G General] dkdude36:
dude, give up already... seriously...

first of all, i know what phallus means... no need to show me...

second, you said wiping is overkill. the dude i was helping before you said 'misguided' was stuck in a soft boot because he didnt wipe. why is it overkill when it takes less than 30 seconds? i know your time is so valuable bcuz u need to talk to 'the man that hands you your paycheck and puts words on your teleprompter' but seriously who gives a phallus?

and you ask what is childish? you serious? i try to help somebody, and you rush in, call me misguided even though you are wrong, then you break out the big words and your 'phallus' and take the argument to a whole new level where it doesnt need to be.

so put your 'phallus' away big boy, and go back to reading from your teleprompter...
[EVO 4G General] brofist:
I never showed you. You asked why I used it (twice, for whatever reason I wasn't sure), so I answered.

I said wiping too much was destructive to ROM memory, and that cache wipes at every turn is the wrong thing to teach someone when they first start off.

I never mentioned how valuable or invaluable my time is. I said I won't be censored by someone who has no governing on me. Reading comprehension.

I intentionally stated that full cache wipes aren't nearly as important as you phrased it to be. There's nothing wrong about that.

I use the vernacular I use in my job and my life. Should I start using tiny words and text shorthand to demean you? Should I not find you worthy of hearing/reading as an equal?

Chill. Now you are just getting personal and honestly acting as childish as you try not to be (I respect a lot of younger people, but only when they are worth the respect).
[EVO 4G General] LancerEVA06:
Y'all are spoiled. I still use the Sears catalogs to wipe.
[EVO 4G General] dkdude36:
ok, this is getting out of hand... i said something, you reacted, and it sort of escalated. we obviously have no idea what points the other is making (bcuz u seem to not understand the points i'm making and i'm really not sure which ones u r) so lets just call it even....
[EVO 4G General] 12MaNy:
Lol...This argument has officially reached the third Freudian psychosexual development stage (phallic stage).
[EVO 4G General] LancerEVA06:
I'm going to say 1 thing about the post of cache wipes are destructive to ROM memory, then please take this arguement to PM...

Read/writes are destructive to flash memory. It degrades, but by the time your flash memory has catastrophically failed, your phone will be useless on current network standards.
[EVO 4G General] brofist:
Usually, this would be correct. But I've seen far too many handsets fail system firmware updates due to incorrect rewrite patterning.

Telling a coworker "yeah, your phone is borked, you need to exchange it in and hope VZW doesn't put it in you without taking you for a date" because the latest OTA firmware corrupted a sector and whitescreened (the poor phone wouldn't even bootloop the VZW splash animation) can be harsh.

The reason I advise this is because /cache and /dalvik repopulate upon wipe, as well as any app updates that directly interact with those caches. Its much more punishing on ROM health than, say, flashing nightlies (which write the kernel very little after initial flash).
[EVO 4G General] Gilbot:
Yes I did. I always do.
[EVO 4G General] SantinoInc:
I'm sorry to interrupt all the phallic and 8th grader comments floating around here but I have an actual question about the Nightly. :D

I've been sticking with #TeamWin's GB6 for a while and was wondering if it would be wise to flash the latest Nightly over it. GB6 has been pretty stable for me so I don't want to bother if Nightly 17 is buggy. What do you guys recommend?
[EVO 4G General] matt2053:
This **** needs to be ended or taken to PM. Your feud is cluttering the thread and making it more and more difficult for people to read and get help.

Cyanogen himself has said time and time again how to flash his ROMs.

INSTRUCTIONS:

- First time flashing CM 7 to your Evo (or coming from another ROM)?

1. Unlock/root your device and install Clockwork Recovery via ROM Manager or Amon_RA's recovery image (You MUST be NAND unlocked!)

2. Do a Nandroid backup!

3. Update your radio if necessary

4. WIPE

5. Install the ROM

5. Optionally install the Google Addon

- Upgrading from earlier CM7 or nightly build?

1. Do a Nandroid Backup!

2. Install the ROM (your Google apps will be backed up automatically)
[EVO 4G General] jcrabapple:
Have you tried Salvage-Mod? It's closer to stock. Doesn't have all the cool CM tweaks and features though.
[EVO 4G General] dkotoric:
Hey is anyone havi gva screen tearing with nightly 17 with the notification bar. It only happens if u change the density. I hsve mine set at 190 and its happening, flashed back to nighly 14 and everything is fine
[EVO 4G General] Snake-Driver:
Well, I used to come here for info on CM7 but this place has turned into a cesspool.

Thanks folks!!!
[EVO 4G General] halorin:
Yeah. It's sad that people can't even discuss a rom to benefit their phone without arguing about it. What's to get so riled up about.

But anyway. Using nightly 17 since last night. No problems yet. Still hoping 270 rotation can get disabled before final comes out.
[EVO 4G General] DraginMagik:
... agreed. can we bring the discussion back to topic?
[EVO 4G General] MWSlim:
Can someone post me a link to the latest nightly? Rom manager is showing 14 as the latest
[EVO 4G General] brokentoaster24:
There's a link to the nightlies in the op
[EVO 4G General] david279:
http://mirror.teamdouche.net/?device=supersonic&type=nightly

It should also be in the first post too.
[EVO 4G General] xpanmanx:
Running 17 in suburban St. Louis. My phone clock didn't spring ahead into DST. It's set to use the carrier time.

The wife's Sprint Centro jumped ahead. The cheap Sprint Samsung A770 which we use for a house phone did not. My son's ATT Samsung A107 GoPhone did.

Problem with Sprint or CM7? And is there a way to fix it without switching to manual?
[EVO 4G General] iamsavedme30:
Can anyone tell me the changes in 17. 14 has been working great for me. I finally got a taste of what everyone was talking about concerning the GPS. It never stayed locked on.

And am I mistaken, wasn't there a nightly 15?

Sent from my Evo in the Kingdom of God!
[EVO 4G General] bwtl1000r:
My cm7 #17 switched to the right time without any intervention on my part
[EVO 4G General] krazyflipj:
I has 2 random reboots running build 17 with stock kernel. Governor and CPU speeds were stock with no profiles.

Sent from my CM7 Powered device
[EVO 4G General] halorin:
Weird. I flashed 17 last night and my time updated without any problem.
[EVO 4G General] zikronix:
im in arizona...mine jumped ahead had to reboot to fix it as we dont participate in dst
[EVO 4G General] helfire1:
Minnesota here, DST didnt show until I rebooted. Wife's Optimums S worked fine.
[EVO 4G General] zikronix:
is any one elses 4g toggle widget black vs white....this was fixed in the first 4g nightly now its back
[EVO 4G General] xpanmanx:
Quoted myself.

The time is correct after a reboot.

CM7 problem, or Sprint? Do we have to wait for October to find out ;)
[EVO 4G General] helfire1:
Fixed this by Stopping the messaging app, clearing app data then going back and setting notification vibration in the app.

One observation is that I thought there used to be a global notification vibration/sound selection instead of having to go into sms, gmail, etc?
[EVO 4G General] krazyflipj:
DST switched automatically for me here in SoCal. Too bad the forum hasn't or is that a Taptalk issue?

Sent from my CM7 Powered device
[EVO 4G General] krazyflipj:
There is. Settings >sounds. By default, messaging app notifications is set to default sounds which is the sound you select in sound settings

Sent from my CM7 Powered device
[EVO 4G General] MWSlim:
Thanks for the link guys!
[EVO 4G General] sftd:
I really must say, I have to count myself among the extremely lucky when it comes to having anything remotely resembling a problem with this beautiful rom. In fact I have been devoid of them to such a degree that I feel bad that I have both nothing to post about, and moreso no grounds of experience to help others. That said, I had an experience today in which I actually had to use my GPS to navigate a construction-torn downtown area that I was not familiar with. Now I've read countless times of GPS woes with cm7, and while mine always locked perfectly I had never tested it in a tracking situation.

My experience seems to be the exact opposite to most, the GPS on this rom locks with a speed that in my personal experience is unheard of elsewhere and definitely far superior to the stock time-to-lock prior to me rooting. Beyond that tracking was perfect and even in the absence of enabling assistance from mobile networks I was constantly at < 7 meter accuracy. Quite frankly I was stunned. I do a ton of off-roading and run a rather expensive true field-GPS in my rig and I swear to you that while I have had slightly (5 meter or less) better accuracy, I have never had that level of speed in obtaining a trackable lock.

Thank you so much to everyone involved in this project.

Sent from my very boring looking CM7 powered handset.
[EVO 4G General] LifeInTheGrey:
Did a search on music and touchscreen, nothing mentioned since 14 so I figured I'd post.

I was running 14 and everything was working perfectly. Did full (Calk's) wipe and installed 17, and it ran VERY smoothly, perfectly until the music app. Once it started playing, I would get phantom song changes, start/stops, etc. I finally force-stopped it, but 30 seconds later it actually turned itself back on. A reboot stopped it, but the problem spills over to all music programs; last.fm, pandora, all affected. I also did a little testing, and noticed that it was always instigated when I tapped the touchscreen (even when off); it would change occasionally without touching it, but always with, so it may be touchscreen-related. I rolled back to 14, then flashed 17 over it to see if that would help (in comparison to the full wipe) and experienced the exact same problems. Decided to roll back to 14 and stay there.

Just curious if anyone had encountered the same problems I did. If I had more forethought I would have gotten a logcat, and once finals are over and if this problem still persists I will get one.

Edit: I should mention that I tried both the stock kernel and the Savaged-Zen kernel, and encountered the same problem with both.
[EVO 4G General] LancerEVA06:
It might be the headphones you're using. Have you tried a different set?
[EVO 4G General] sftd:
Coincidently right after I make a post lamenting my inability to help others with their problems I do have a tid-bit to add to your music issue. Are you by any chance using Motorolla Rokr stereo BT headphones? I was experiencing similiar intermittent issues a week ago and after an hour or two discovered the rubber on the side of the headphones that contained the transport/track controls had become pinched and was (from what I gathered) probably randomly enacting enough tactile force on the buttons underneath to activate them. Even if you're not using that exact brand I'm sure a similar situation could occur on any set that actually has those outboard controls. It's a longshot, but that was my problem.

Sent from my very boring looking CM7 powered handset.
[EVO 4G General] krazyflipj:
Just tried music app and I'm not experiencing any issues mentioned above. Fyi I'm playing my music using the speaker. A lil off topic but did anyone know that there are extra buttons in the calculator app? To switch,swipe the screen

Sent from my CM7 Powered device
[EVO 4G General] LifeInTheGrey:
Hmm you know, I have not. They are standard headphones though, no mic or controls attached, so I did not consider that possibility as they should (a word I truly loathe using) work without consequence. Upon return to 14 using the same headphones I did not experience the same problems, so I do not believe that is the issue, however when I flash the next nightly and if I experience the same issues, I shall test this theory. Thank you for the expeditious response.

Edit: noticed the two additional responses. As I noted, I don't have controls and it is a wired set, the $10 sony headphones you can get anywhere. The other gentleman raised a valid point; I did not test this on speaker. Another good note for future flashes, thank you.
[EVO 4G General] halorin:
It looks like #17 fixed my browser issue with zooming. Yes!
[EVO 4G General] DarkAudit:
Don't see a point in flashing 18 since @cmsrc shows no commits since the 8th. Everything should be in 17 already.
[EVO 4G General] strung:
cmsrc is down :(
[EVO 4G General] krazyflipj:
Whenever cmsrc is down, I check here:

http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#q,status:merged,n,z

or here:

https://github.com/CyanogenMod

Only change i see is a fix for the smudge icons in notification widgets.
[EVO 4G General] dkelle4:
Definitely upgrade to the nightlies. All the wimax code was merged, meaning Cyanogen went through it with a fine-toothed comb :) Other than that, there have been kernel tweaks and other fixes since then. Time to upgrade! :)
[EVO 4G General] Saturn2K:
Damn, I really thought 18 wasn't going to come out last night. I really want to just flash 18 on top of 17, but I've always had the worst luck with bugs cropping up. The last time I tried that, it ripped a hole in time and my phone turned into a steam powered clock.

Does anyone know which files contain the notification icons? Maybe I can manually replace just that file and be ok.
[EVO 4G General] yandi3401:
Has anyone noticed that on builds 17 and 18 GPS only works the first time turn it on? If you turn it off and try to use it again, it wont work.

-> I have done the GPS Fix multiples times, and it works perfectly on build 14.

Can anyone confirm that? Thanks in advance.
[EVO 4G General] p-slim:
Try a soft reset, mine is fine
[EVO 4G General] oddlou:
Don't turn it off? I never turn off gps and don't ever have issues with it.
[EVO 4G General] yandi3401:
Thanks for the answer -- I've done that. It works perfectly when I turn it on the first time. But if I turn it off, it wont work again, until I reboot the phone.

Can you try doing that and let me know if you experience the same issue? (Builds 17 or 18).
[EVO 4G General] yandi3401:
Thats one option. I'm not complaining about it, I just want to know if it is a common issue on builds 17 and 18.

- How its your battery life with gps on all the time?
[EVO 4G General] sxayarath:
I've never noticed that and I was using that app just this morning. Another issue I did have was that I always flash a certain font I like every time I flash a new nightly and I'm always missing a minus sign in the calculator app. Probably the font package? I always forget to check before I flash the font as I do it in the same flashing session with a nightly.
[EVO 4G General] theundeadelvis:
I have this on 17. I just kill the app with a long press of the back button, and then it works fine.

*sorry, forgot to quote the post I was referring to. Maps can't find my location after I've turned GPS on/off then on again unless I've actually killed the maps app.
[EVO 4G General] atapia984:
It is the font package you are using. I had the same issue. The + and x get all screwy.
[EVO 4G General] dkdude36:
have you found any good live wallpapers for the sculpted theme? i've searched but found none...
[EVO 4G General] theboz1419:
Not fixed on #18 the Sound/vibrate icon still has a small smudge, the other icons look good though
[EVO 4G General] p-slim:
It does give a problem when turning off until I reset. I never turn GPS off. My battery is fine. GPS isn't actually on unless I access an app that uses it. Otherwise it turns on randomly for pings
[EVO 4G General] wrathx:
I can confirm this may be an issue. Last night I fired up the GPS after flashing, and it worked fine... once I shut off the GPS and restarted though this morning, it wasn't working.
[EVO 4G General] fiddy619:
I also just always leave it on, my battery lasts all day no problem (at least with 17). I'm about to flash 18...

Sent from my CeEvO
[EVO 4G General] drmacinyasha:
So uh...

Maybe RC3 tonight.
[EVO 4G General] grungbuk:
So uh......

Yay

Sent from my CM7 EVO
[EVO 4G General] Redneck Trash:
I flashed #18 twice to make sure. Has anyone else noticed that #18 is dated 03122011?
[EVO 4G General] fmedina2:
What theme is that? ^^^
[EVO 4G General] Saturn2K:
It's the Honeybread theme.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=943423

I like it, except that it screws up the text box in google's search app. Also the drop down arrow icons look a bit pixel-y.
[EVO 4G General] Redneck Trash:
I haven't noticed either of those but my eyesight is such that I probably wouldn't notice any pixel issues.
[EVO 4G General] dkdude36:
ok, drmac says we should see rls3 tonight. lets see some SPLASH SCREENS!!!! woo spread the cm7 love peoplez!
[EVO 4G General] snowboarda42:
Woot!

10characterezerably
[EVO 4G General] davenukem:
Any word on whether the connect bug for 4g has been fixed.... don't understand why full development on that stopped...
[EVO 4G General] twiz0r:
Lol we just had rc2...how much has actually changed since then to have rc3?

Maybe some stuff gets committed today still though

swyped from my cyanogenized and gingerbreaded EVO
[EVO 4G General] androidEVOlution:
I've been talking about this issue since the night 17 dropped but no one replied. Works great until you turn it off, then you get nothing after you turn it back on. If it doesn't affect battery life I can live with just leaving it on but still.
[EVO 4G General] wase4711:
hopefully, RC3 will be back to what these nightlys were before the last few...so many bugs, I am using other ROM's until CM7 becomes more stable..

since RC2 came out, things have been pretty dicey for many people..
[EVO 4G General] ibcenu:
Yep... me 2... I left nightlies 3 weeks ago. I tried RC2 and had issues. This time, I'm gonna sit back and watch reviews so I dont waste my time flashing... comeon team win.... make a winner
[EVO 4G General] Snake-Driver:
I have the latest ROM Manger 3.0. 1.3 and the nightlies do not show up on it not does Amon RA 2.30 recovery. Is there another manager that works correctly?
[EVO 4G General] david279:
U could download it directly.
[EVO 4G General] Snake-Driver:
Yeah. I know that just wondering if another ROM Manger worked better. I don't know of one.