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[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
anything that runs Windows Mobile is a piece of crap, else i wouldn't have switched to an Android phone. That Dell Stinks, it's even bigger and more cumbersome than the HTC Athena
[Galaxy S I9000 General] riz157:
Widjaja you're not alone, i've experienced the exact same problems. It almost felt you were talking about my handset.

This would really be the best handset if it wasn't for the issues you have mentioned, really.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] systoxity:
This guy brings up good points, products should always work flawlessly out of the box. And for your situation, not wanting to tinker, its probably best to replace your phone with something simpler (aria). On the other hand, a few software fixes that are already out address all these issues and make this phone, the best on the market.

Gl with your next cellphone purchase.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] bilboa1:
you could have photoshopped the image and that'd be a fake image :p

there's such a HUGE difference in quality. I certainly wouldn't want a phone that makes pictures like yours.

Shall I repeat again? If it's genuine (50% of the issues, some are actually real) I would exchange it right away.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Valeo:
What is it with this forum. Why is that when people report problems here they get jumped on and called bullshitters? It's like some of you can't believe that Samsung could produce a faulty phone. If Samsung can continually bull**** about issues its customers are experiencing on their handsets ("the GPS works great", "no other users have reported <problem xyz>", etc.), then they can produce defective handsets.

And people say Apple fanboys are annoying...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tameracingdriver:
What, so I actually had time to photoshop the image between the time I took the photo and the time I posted it.

**** me, I must be a genuis. :rolleyes:

ETA: I'm not having a go at you personally here, but do you seriously believe I am just trolling here? I am happy your handset works better than mine here - I have long been known within my circle of friends for having the worst possible luck with everything, but really, I believe this is a SERIOUSLY buggy device. Every problem I have had has been documented somewhere on this forum!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] betoNL:
Lol.... ANY fanboy is annoying ...and completely out of focus...just like some pictures posted here...

I still think that the perfect smartphone doesnt exist and many problems are more user-related than anything else.

But if some users are so rich to keep on buying and changing these expensive phones, that's their problem.. or privilege.

I dont have the luxury; and I'll try always to get the best from this investment.

With some practical solutions I am enjoying GPS offline voice navigation to the most

And what a sound I am getting from the stock player, just by mixing that equalizer..

They just should express their opinion and leave!

Why keep on being negative and keep on discussing in a GS forum full of Fanboys?

That's a little fishy....
[Galaxy S I9000 General] lowspeed:
You got a good camera there. not all phones are created equal within the same model.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] brunes:
If I keep having these problems with mine, I may sell too. I absolutely love this phone, but I am with the OP, I am at a point in my life where I do not have the time and energy to constantly screw with my phone anymore. It has to work, and work solid.

I had great experience with my last HTC phone, and may go back to them.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] bilboa1:
i think your device has serious issues. i would really really think about exchanging it, or if you don't like it anyway, just sell it back or give it back and take another brand. the issues you described and your picture quality are absolutely not OK for this kind of phone.

that said, the tone of your first post clearly indicated you wanted to bash the sgs for faults it doesnt rly have :p

it has some flaws. gps (partial fix, still not good), lag (voodoo does fully fix it)

some non-features aka no flash no joystick no led but.. that's like buying a cheese burger and complaining you didn't get nuggets with it.

and that's just as annoying as so called "fanboism" or "haters" :p

little edit in fact

i think the most annoying are ppl calling everyone fanboy/hater without looking further just cause it sounds cool and let you discard any argument. that's retarded... :(
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tameracingdriver:
I wanted to like this phone, but AFAIC i dont think there is anything wrong with the hardware, just software, and its up to samsung to fix it, and i'm not confident. That is all. :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] nCoder:
Did you removed the plastic cover from the camera lens? :P
[Galaxy S I9000 General] bilboa1:
well you can persist, and the SGS software is not that good, but your issues seems to be over the board to me for a regular sgs. i'd tell you to come meet me and see my sgs to compare but you live rather far :P
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tameracingdriver:
Thing is, it DOES have these faults. You can search these very forums, and you will find that other people than me have problems.

Clearly, they do have quality control issues, and it does seem like I may have got a friday afternoon job, but its hard to understand why; these are mass produced solid state electronics - I just can't understand why all of the issues I have could be caused by hardware, and the reason I haven't bothered to exchange it is because I GENUINELY believe all of the issues are caused by software. So in the end, I believed I'd end up with one with the same problems, so I didn't bother. The camera is a good example - why does Vignette produce so much better pictures (still not amazing mind, but CLEARLY better). The file sizes are twice the size, which indicates that the SGS camera app compresses the images heavily - but that said I tried a macro shot, and I did get decent results - but the sensor just can't cope with pictures with lots of detail (trees, grass etc).

Most of the other faults I've stated are software related, and the fixes or attempted fixes for these issues are found in these forums. If the problems don't exist, why are there any fixes?

I'd love to come over to your place and see what yours is like, and I honestly believe you when you say you dont have all the problems I have, but you MUST have some of these issues, even if only one or two?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] betoNL:
HMMM....Bad news.... DocRambone, the author of so many nice roms, is also leaving:

Tsk tsk....started to notice also in other threads that many wifes are getting the sgs ....

It's not an option for me....my wife would not fall for that....lol

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[Galaxy S I9000 General] bilboa1:
ive the gps issue as stated, even if it got better it's not all that good

and ive the lag issue after 1 week of use if i dont apply voodoo lag fix

you've seen my picture i think they're decent, i can make others

i'm only using voodoo fixes on it basically and a rom theme thing for the hell of it hehe

what i recommend is JM8 with voodoo, if its still feeling lagged with that, or had bad sound and so on i really think there's a problem that comes from somewhere else. of course the JM8 is installed with repartition and the device is as fully wiped as possible, factory reset etc.

for the apps to kill btw=>settings=>apps=>running apps you will see background apps

also you can update your camera firmware with some obscure command:

*#34971539#*

i have sesbde14:sesbi?14:none

ps: i lost track of the other topic lol
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tameracingdriver:
Well... I gave it another chance, but in the end I'm getting rid... I currently have JM8 + tayatuma lite with voodoo fix, but I'm still having issues with this phone - I don't get any performance issues now, but it still keeps dying and freezing for no apparent reason - it's two favourite tricks seem to be turning itself off randomly, and actually locking up hard while in the middle of doing stuff - now neither happens REALLY often, but it's still annoying, and yesterday it turned off while I was listening to music - for me - if it can't even do that properly, then I'm out!

So I'm selling the phone (I still don't actually believe there is anything wrong with the handset, its just the crappy software IMO) and I'm moving on to a Nexus One... now I know on paper this is backstep, and I know the N1 has its own set of issues, but generally speaking, I just want a device that works, and doesn't keep crashing / going into a coma, and want a device that performs better in the real world, not just on a benchmark (videos on the N1 clearly show it runs faster than the SGS even when its lag fixed). I was going to go iphone 4, but for the price I got my N1 for, I couldn't justify the extra cash - ip4 may be better, but its not twice the phone the N1 is, and hence, aint worth more than double the price!

Anyway, I'd like to say I've enjoyed my time with the SGS, but it aint been so. Samsung, if you're reading this, after that heap of junk BD-P2500 and the i9000, you've lost a customer for life - you have good hardware, but its cheaply made, and you can't write good software to save your lives.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] appelflap:
You can't blame samsung for weird lockups if you are running voodoo stuff, lag fixes and beta software.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tameracingdriver:
Well... if I'd ran the stock samsung ROM that was on originally, I wouldn't be selling it now - because I'd have probably thrown it through a window - because on the stock firmware, it was horrendously unstable and slow.

I'm prepared to admit that perhaps mine is a friday afternoon job, but I seriously don't believe I'm alone with all these problems - why do the "fixes" exist if there is no problem?

Oh well, I guess most folks just wouldnt admit that their phones have problems on here, but I can't tolerate it any more.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] andrewluecke:
Your loss.. When Froyo comes, it will probably fix ALL the problems and you'll be trying to trade in your N1 :P
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tameracingdriver:
LOL... it certainly doesn't feel like a loss to me, and as for the comment about Froyo fixing ALL the problems - well I hope it keeps fine for you - if I believed for sure that would happen, then I wouldn't sell, but to be honest, IF they manage to fix all of the problems, then I dare say by then I'll be moving on to a new handset anyway, because lets face it, samsung aren't exactly speedy now are they - the phone has been out 4 months and they STILL haven't fixed the GPS!

Mate... I wont be shedding any tears over this device - especially now that I've looked at the N1s ROM section on here!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Beards:
I can certainly understand your frustration..... If I didn't have so much faith in the other items on the Phone (excellent camera to name but one) I would seriously be considering joining you.

Best of luck with the N1. :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tameracingdriver:
Thanks mate. Makes a change to get a post from someone that isn't blinkered abuse :)

To be honest, I really do hope samsung sort it out, for the sake of those who are in it for the long haul, its just I don't have faith in the company to fix the issues I'm having, but I hope I'm wrong for the sake of everyone who owns one, and hope that in the end they get the device they deserve, but for me, I need a more "mature" device and the N1 will fill that void nicely. Its really just a stop gap to get me through the next 12 months or so when I reckon there'll be some VERY nice handsets around.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] andrewluecke:
But lets say WHAT IF the next update did fix RFS, and GPS.. Then, assuming these were fixed, wouldn't most people's problems be gone?

Remember, Samsung did say they are working on GPS optimisation, and many people have been possibly incorrectly been operating on the assumption that RFS cannot be easily fixed, and logically Samsung wont replace it with another filesystem. However, what if the problems were due to a few minor configuration options?

People are also operating on the basis that the leaks being released include all their fixes.

But anyway, we'll see
[Galaxy S I9000 General] INeedYourHelp:
If you check again, he's back....
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tameracingdriver:
They would indeed, but I have a feeling the devs on here will have the RFS thing fixed before samsung ever do, I notice they're working on it now, and I dare say a permanent fix is just around the corner.

GPS does seem to be improved on JM9 according to early reports.

But for me personally, it is the freezing and shutting down that is the deal breaker, and I am not convinced this will ever be fixed, at least not on my handset.

I've gotta say as well, I have been kind of seduced by the possibilities with the nexus one (example the miui ROM, looks fantastic, as do many others), and from what I've seen on the likes of youtube, it seems to me that the Nexus One, although trailing in the benchmarks, and having a slower GPU, is actually significantly quicker day to day, especially with some of the custom ROMs.... no doubt some of that is due to Froyo, and also down to the fact the N1 has superior floating point performance.

I have to confess to being disappointed with the camera on the SGS too - I seem to be in the minority here, but some pictures really don't come out well on mine for some reason, and theres no flash (of course I knew this when I bought it but still)... and from what I've seen of photos taken from the N1, they look a hell of a lot better than what my SGS is taking (in fact I even saw a comparison where they compared to the N1 camera to the 8MP "Incredible" and the N1 spanked it in photo quality).

The fact that I will actually make a few quid from the trade is the icing on the cake for me :) Yet ironically, I strongly suspect a year down the line, the N1 may even be worth MORE than the SGS when I come to sell it, as the N1 is surely going to go down as being one of those "classic" phones, a rare, underrated gem that was somewhat unappreciated by most, but very much appreciated by those "in the know".
[Galaxy S I9000 General] d3885u:
Just stop ****ting again in this galaxy s thread if you feel the N1 is much more better...just go to the N1 forum and have a nice time with your N1...your whinning and complaining just make me feel bored to death...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tameracingdriver:
Its a discussion forum. If you dont like it, dont read it. ****.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Valeo:
Eh... you are aware that hundreds, if not thousands of users have been reporting this very issue with stock, right? I'm talking Galaxy S, Captivate, Epic, Vibrant - the whole range. I personally had to go through 3 (GT-I9000) handsets before I got one that didn't lock-up randomly. It doesn't matter whether OCLF has been applied or not; whether the phone is rooted or unrooted. The problem is that Samsung shipped many, many devices with this (I suspect) hardware fault, not that pioneering users are applying lag-fixes and doing Samsung's job for them.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] betoNL:
I guess I am one of those lucky ones that got a device with less probs.

Never needed a Lag-fix, the only time I applied one, it was just for the curiosity, just to see that quadrant benchmark going up to 2000, but didnt experience any improvement on the user-level. I just removed the lag fix and applied a factory reset before flashing to JPH using kies method. I use one Task manager, I am carefull with the widgets and Apps. I install, Imei is intact, I clean up Ram regularly, to make a long story short : I am in control of my device and I wont go applying all kind of stuff I dont fully understand about.

The disappointments I have are the voice recognition thing, crappy voice dialing over bluetooth and the lack of proper connectivity control, but those are more Android issues.

I am Just waiting for that official Froyo upgrade and then take conclusions.

I am even using now my external bluetooth gps receiver only as a back up, since I can get the internal gps working just fine..with no fix, just some assist..

Btw, how many OFICIAL upgrades you had on your device? None right?

Of course Samsung is still trying to figure out how to approach that Linux file system and of course one day they will ...BUT , Hardwarewise, both Desire and Nexus are inferior than the sgs...

I compared sound, screen and gps of the 3 devices... And the SGS just kicks it!

As Long I can get a great sound and a reasonable gps performance out of my gs, I can patiently wait for Samsung resuming its techno crash course...

And if it takes too long (let's say 2 oficial firmware upgrades) I can always sell my device to an airhead FanBoy.....cause they are everywhere...Google and Steve Jobs know that just too well....

Good luck with your downgrade....

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[Galaxy S I9000 General] tameracingdriver:
Oh yeah, like changing to a phone which actually works properly in the first place is a downgrade. :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Beards:
My apologies in using your comment but I am getting quite annoyed with the amount of negative attitude to fellow members here...

It's a forum and providing the negative comments are constructed criticism then there is absolutely nothing wrong if a fellow SGS owner wishes to leave because he has lost faith in his phone.

I actually admire those owners who speak up and put their case across in an educated manner.

What I don't get is those who whip back and do so in such a method that lacks any source or point....

You can't just damn a person and tell them to stop whining and go elsewhere just because it does not fit in with your point.

It's a forum... Forum's are for debate and we are here to discuss topics that not all will agree upon but nonetheless they are still debatable.

I've had the same kind of attitude thrown at me in the Desire HD thread where they keep on calling me a Fanboy.

No matter how hard you try to convince them that all you are doing is attempting to correct someone else's poorly written material, others slam you as FanBoy.

So tameracingdriver ~ you are doing nothing wrong..... Your opinion is better put across than a lot of other negative replies.

One point I will add here though is ~ All the unofficial ROM fixes have not yet to date included any of the corrected fixes.

The dates of the ROM's don't add up.

I am confident the official Froyo & Fix's will cure a lot of the issues.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] d3885u:
Ok mate...feel so sorry about my abbusive manner here...but I just feel he always repeating his complaint bout the same reason again and again without taking any conclusion...

P.S.:

I don't blame him about his dissapointment feeling about SGS and making a decision to move to another device...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] fullerms:
I was a Nokia user all along until I bought my Galaxy. Never had a good opinion about Samsung phones, and my Galaxy S experience hasn't made it any better.

Samsung has made a great piece of hardware, but their software implementation sucks. Kies is the worst POS I have ever used.

Having said that, I will not give up my Galaxy very soon. The latest asian leak of froyo (ZUJP2) has been a better experience than stock and I feel that things will get better as Samsung learn from their mistakes.

Love that 4" inch Amoled screen :-) Then there is the great support from the thousands of Android devs out there. Each day brings a surprise in the form of a new tip or app.

This phone has great potential and if Samsung is unable to exploit it, then I'm sure that the devs out there will.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Chatboy 91:
Well, I've been using my Galaxy S for about a month now and it's been a good experience. I am not running any lag fixes, and I'm on JH2. I have a few qualms though. Occasionally the phone has essentially locked up, and I've had to restart it, the gps doesn't work very well, although I have yet to try any fixes as it's not a big issue for me. Honestly, though, I love this phone. Once froyo comes out I'm sure I'll love it even more. Admittedly, I'm concerned about Samsung's track record with software though, and kies is a flaky program at best. But, all devices have some issues, and while the SGS may need some fixes it's still the best phone I've used.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tas6s:
I have my galaxy for 3 weeks its my first android phone previous I had a n95 I didn't notice any lag although I install a lot of apps but maybe I don't have the experience to notice lag you tell,about gps I don't have any problem I use it to my work every day with n drive, as for the singlal its ok but don't forget the sar of this phone is 0,23...very low.. The only thing I can think is may be the Samsung is categorize the word with economic standard for example the. Europe and north America the quality of the hardware is better and in other areas is low and the cost low..
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Beards:
No problem...

Again I apologize that I had to use your post to carry my message across.

Your apology is commendable. Lesser members would have found some method of retort which would have been meaningless, cold or shallow. :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] xcentriq:
This guy is drunk! Lol, this phone by far is better than any phone and its competitor the iphone jail broken or not! and I was into the iphone when I was using it.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] rexboy:
Have to admit, ive been searching for different methods of rooting the phone and applying different lag fixes.

Wife had an iphone 3, i personally hate them as they are limited in what you can do to them so i convinced her to get the galaxy S based on good reviews but man is it slow.

Stock phone performance should be better but it lags constantly, and my sister and cousin bought the same phone a few days earlier and their galaxies experience lag too so whilst many here say there is no lag, there is alot on the net to support their software is mediocre.

I have a HD2, flashed to Froyo 2.2.1 and its much faster (ok i know its tweaked being a flashed ROM) but i really expected more from the Galaxy, the wife doesnt want me to tweak her phone and the reality is i shouldnt have to but i cant see any other way of increasing its speed without tweaking it, task managers etc do nothing. Just clicking on the camera button can take upto 7-10 seconds to turn on.

Anyone else experience similar poor out of the box permances from the Galaxy S (thinking i should of steered her to a HTC Desire instead :-( )
[Galaxy S I9000 General] lgkahn:
Update hers to 2.2.1 also. Very little lag stock on 2.2.1
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Fuma:
got the sgs couple of weeks ago. the stock rom was fine only rooted it,but the performance was good. didnt feel the need to change anything.

but Swaped to darky's 9.2 to see what it's all about and got nice improvement over the stock.

though coming from sony c905 the camera sucks...and no flash...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] bsamurai:
flash to Darky's ROM v9.2

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=814091
[Galaxy S I9000 General] chupchip:
If you want it to be good enough out of the box, get an iPhone.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] sxi200:
Another option is to use Kies Registry Patcher and set to UK version XEU. That will allow you to upgrade to stock 2.2.1. It is miles ahead of any other stock roms.

I've also had an iphone 3 and now own an iphone 4. My galaxy on 2.2.1 + Docs rom + Speedmod kernal is faster than the i4. I do have lagfix enabled but it makes only a small difference. Lagfix is only really needed for 2.1 & 2.2.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Bec07:
Yeah... about that... the A4 CPU is quite a mess...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Auzy:
To be honest, that neither proves nor disproves the theory since they aren't both running exactly the same software. You really need to run native software on both to test
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AmdPhenomII:
I did that myself...went from a T-Mo G2 Touch/HTC Hero to a Samsung Omnia II and back to Android in the form of a Galaxy S!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] brett.darnell:
Yep flash with darkys 9.x Rom and u will wonder why u waited. Voodoo kernel sound is actually better than my girls iphone now.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dadyal:
you just sold out a great device