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[Vibrant General] mornen:
Is it possible that the difference in battery life experienced comes down to the network each one is on, such as signal strength throughout the day? I live in a weak 3g signal area, and have mine forced to 3g only, and I feel that drains my battery more quickly. Often hovering between -101db and -111db but the Vibrant still makes it work. I get around 5 hours of solid use and a couple hours of standby before it asks me to plug in the charger.

I had auto-brightness on, and the screen used 89% of the battery. I have since changed the brightness to zero but still testing. I also have gmail on autosync and currently no syncing widgets, and occasionally kill some apps with taskiller, but I'm by no means aggressive with it. Also that was on a 2 minute time-out screen setting. It is better than my g1 was for sure.

Today with 0% brightness (also in web) and 30 second timeout I'm looking at 6 hours unplugged, moderate use (watched 20min 720p movie that was not avatar), some forum reading (20 min xda app/tmobile.com with web), some news (nubinews app) maybe 20 texts, 0 calls, some super k.o. boxing (about 20 minutes) -- All leaving me with 50% as reported by battery use in settings, screen used 67%.

PS Also using launcher pro.
[Vibrant General] gsvnet:
Generally speaking, forcing 3G definitely does have an impact on battery life - that goes for every phone I've used. And of course it's especially true if the signal is constantly fluctuating.
[Vibrant General] temperbad:
How do we force 3g on this phone... The old *#*#4636#*#* that worked on my n1 doesn't work on this...
[Vibrant General] hah2110:
Why not? Works fine for everyone else?
[Vibrant General] sodonnell:
My last cycle got me 25 hours of moderate use. This current battery cycle is at the 18h 39m mark with 62% battery life remaining that consisted of what I'd place somewhere between light and moderate use.

During the first cycle mentioned, I had WiFi on overnight with the display off next to my bed. The current cycle started shortly before bedtime and went the night without WiFi on and with 3G disabled.

I'll do my best to describe every personalization I've done on the phone. You'll notice they become less relevant to battery life toward the bottom of the list.

GPS off (rarely used since it hasn't been working for me)

Bluetooth never used

Wi-Fi sleep policy set to "Never"

Use wireless networks is checked and I applied the GPS "fix" that changes the hostname for this

Facebook syncing only once a day

Exchange mail configured, but set to "Manual" for synchronization

Home Screen - TouchWiz3 with only 3 screens, using solid black background

Widgets - Daily Briefing (all 3 options checked), Feeds and Updates (Auto-Update turned off), Google Search, FMyLife Widget (white text on black background), and Pandora

Black app backgrounds whenever possible (Messaging, FMyLife Widget, Aldiko, Kindle, Reddit Is Fun, XDA...)

MinFreeManager installed with (6,12,16,82,90,98) as values

Root with the '/dbdata/data' lag fix, AKA "Method 1" (brought me to 967 on Quadrant, btw)

All sounds at max except for System volume which is at default

Auto-orientation turned off (I read lying down and hate when it switches to landscape on me)

Unlock pattern is used for lock screen w/ tactile feedback

Development - "USB debugging" and "Stay awake" are checked

Text-to-speech libraries installed

In case anyone was wondering, going through every application and settings on my phone for this data (took 35 minutes) only brought me down to 58% from the beginning of this post. That's 4% usage.
[Vibrant General] DonutYankee:
OK, so I've noticed that the main culprit could possibly be the crap-tastic GPS and compass. Didn't really use Google Maps today. Battery has been fantastic this last cycle. Unplugged at 2 AM last night, now still going at 34%. (*knock on wood*) Also, last night, didn't feel like leaving it to charge all night so I turned it off and plugged it in. After it charged to 100% I turned the phone back on and unplugged it. Maybe that's all the battery needed to work well (though conditioning isn't needed for Li-ion batteries if I understand correctly). Maybe it's really the GPS sucking up power helplessly trying to get a signal. As yesterday, I had a 45-or-so minute conversation and used the Twitter app and did some web browsing and played some games. Hoping I didn't jinx myself with this post...
[Vibrant General] MMcCraryNJ:
Just received my Vibrant today around 1:00 this afternoon. Charged it up with the phone off before I did anything. Phone had about 60 percent battery life out of the box, and was completely charged around 3:30.

Took it off the charger, booted it, and started playing around. I fooled with everything on this device and used it pretty much nonstop, only stopping to eat and drive. Browsing, watched 10 minutes of Avatar, ran a few rounds of the demo of Asphalt 5. Installed apps, you know, the usual.

Phone just died on me now at 12:15 AM. So almost 9 hours continuous usage, connected with Wifi, using GPS.

I would say that's pretty damn good, considering my G1 would get me about 15 hours before dying without nearly touching it as much. And the POS WinMo device I had before it (T-Mobile MDA) about 10. And the fact that this is just the first battery cycle.

I'm always pretty superstitious when it comes to batteries on new devices. Some people say they don't need to be primed or broken in, other people swear by it. I'm still not sure. I'm patient and can wait for the battery to fully charge and drain a few times, so I do it regardless. In case you were wondering my method:

1. Took the device out, inserted everything, kept it off and plugged it in. Waited until the device said fully charged, and I left it on for about 45 minutes longer.

2. Turned it on, used it until it died.

3. Turned back on to get another minute or two out of it (You shouldn't do this often as it actually will decrease the capacity of the battery, but once or twice should be OK)

4. Leave it off and let it charge, and repeat 2x

I've always done this for every phone, PDA, portable gaming system, etc. I've ever owned and I always seem to be able to squeeze a couple more hours out of my devices than the average. I don't claim to know if these steps actually helped or are a gigantic waste of time, but I'm happy with the results. :-)
[Vibrant General] Batpimp:
I am new to touchscreens and OS's and UI's. Will someone please explain what is launcher pro and touchwiz..i think i understand using the context.
[Vibrant General] hah2110:
Ok I take it back... I change it in that menu but it stays at GSM/CDMA AUTO PRL. WHAT GIVES
[Vibrant General] mornen:
I figured out how to force 3g from this post: (I can't post links so you'll have to fix it)

hxxp://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=7208948&postcount=2

The vibrant didn't utilize the same method as my g1.
[Vibrant General] iBustCh3rries:
Can we get some sort of proof of this amazing cycle? maybe a picture of the stats or a screen cap?
[Vibrant General] hah2110:
I definitely believe that this phone is way more efficient when on then my N1 but standby is sucking.
[Vibrant General] PePPaZ:
I stayed out last night and knew I'd need my phone for work in the morning. I turned syncing off (from the Power Control Widget) and the phone lost 1 percent over the 6 hours I was "sleeping".

I'd like to see if it is more power savvy to turn 3G off (use only 2G networks) and keep wifi on for data.
[Vibrant General] hah2110:
Settings? Rooted? Etc?
[Vibrant General] elopez2808:
I've definitely seen great stand by time but I think the battery kinda sucks. I started charging my phone at 15% but continued to use it to browse the internet. I checked back to see where it was and it had dropped down to 13% while plugged in. Does this happen to anybody else or should I go exchange it in case I just got a faulty device?
[Vibrant General] mystycs:
I got the same problem man....
[Vibrant General] sodonnell:
Does this work? I had to plug it in after taking that screenshot because it went to "critically low." A coworker has been getting really bad battery life, so maybe I'm just lucky.
[Vibrant General] k4ylr:
My device is still new for me, only on its second cycle and so far i've gotten decent battery life so far with a few 30 minute + calls and general tinkering with widgets/apps/etc...

I have noticed at least on my device that the indicator in the notification bar is very very poor at reporting a battery level that is remotely close. I grabbed the BatteryLife app and it reports identically to the level in the status menu.

Looking forward to some new kernels and the like!
[Vibrant General] masterotaku:
I became a bit of a battery life expert after having to cope with the Samsung Behold II. But luckily I was able to convince T-Mobile to upgrade me to the Vibrant for free, and it was well worth it.

Running roughly the same apps battery life for me is pushing double what I could get out of the Behold II, which is a vast improvement, especially considering their identically sized batteries.
[Vibrant General] MrGibbage:
It's been said before, but everyone has to remember the real biggest draw on your batter is your cell signal. If you are in a weak signal area, your phone will use much more battery. Ever accidentally leave your phone on during a flight? Zero signal and your phone goes to max power looking for that signal. When you land two or three hours later your phone is almost dead. If you work in old government buildings like I do, which are all built like a brick sh*thouse, you have very poor signals all during the day. And your battery will suffer because of it.

The other thing you have to understand is that you really can't trust the battery percentage unless you fully charge your phone and then fully discharge it under what ever you would call "normal usage". And by fully discharge, I mean run it until the phone turns off. Your phone will stay on for as long as there is power. It doesn't matter what percent your phone thinks it has--it just needs the power. I ran my phone for close to an hour last night on one to zero percent as I was draining it with pandora. After you have drained your phone a couple of times under normal usage, and recharged to 100%, then your phone will have a feel for how long the battery will last. Then it will know how to calculate the percent remaining.
[Vibrant General] kolyan:
Read reviews on Vibrant and Droid X and they state that Droid X has better battery life.....what the hell.....how can 4.3' LCD have better battery then 4.0' SAMOLED ?

I am only on the second charge with facebook sync, emails push, news and weather widgets, and I get a full day from 7-8am to 8pm+ easy.......

ps. Droid X already had an update to fix minor issues and getting 2.2 in August, when are WE gonna get this kind of treatment from Samsung !
[Vibrant General] ukinny:
The Vibrant, which arrived yesterday, is my first smartphone, and I too found the battery running down pretty quickly, even with GPS, WiFi turned off etc... (in standby mode it dropped like 10% in an hour). However, following the advice of one of the posters here I turned off the synching and now in the last 90 minutes my phone battery has only dropped by 1% or so. I think it was my facebook synching that may have been the problem. I had it set to synch every hour, but often times the synch failed or timed out, which may (or may not) have caused the synching to keep ontrying far more periodically. Like I said, no hard facts, just that turning off synching has helped my batter life immensely...
[Vibrant General] kolyan:
wait a week or so. it will get better. install Autokiller and set it to Aggressive Mode, its ok to leave ALL sync settings on as long as you set a good refresh rate (at least once per 1-3 hours). also make sure brightness is in AUTO or at minimum.

Like I said above, I get an easy 10-12 hours on 3G with all SYNCs ON.....maybe more but then I already dont care and connect it to charger
[Vibrant General] PhilSlater:
Maybe you can, but I can't. I am really finding the battery life to be hideous. Even on 2G (but at home so WiFi, letting apps sync at will but no 'social media', GPS on) from fully charged to 80% in 1 hour 45 minutes with 2 short phone calls. This is with almost no usage. If I was using it full-bore, fine.

I'm trying it with apps set to not autosync (but hey, that's important!) and Advanced Task Killer set to agressive.

I like the phone except the battery life, and the sound quality & loudness (both in and out, even when using a bluetooth headset). My last phone was a dumb phone and it sucked in so many ways, but the clarity and quality and loudness was what I expect.
[Vibrant General] mystycs:
I am having the same issue here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=732239

Maybe we have faulty batterys?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] guide144:
Hi everyone, I just brought this great device for few days and it very nice device.

Today I buy navigator software call "papago" which available in my country. However, after install it and registered. It can run for few mins and my device crash!!!

Only way out is tool a battery out and put it back again to boot it.

Anyone here try this software? Please share.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] azrudin99:
Get your money back :)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bebek2000:
i just install papago x5 on my spica (eclat), it is work perfectly.

it's say that this application is free for singapore, thai, and indonesia.

If i use the application, will come out trial window, but it is not explain trial for many days...

cool..
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yuna75:
http://www.papago.com.tw/Download/DwonlaodPage.aspx?Did=655

Maybe you want to try to download this new version. BTW how much you purchase your Papago?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Scirwode:
Mines working fine, no crashes. Malaysia & Singapore version.

Scirwode
[Hero CDMA Android Development] matthewjulian:
Funny title huh:) Seriously though, I am tired of the hit and miss of live wallpapers, and other apps working or not working on my beloved Hero, that being said what I have desperately been trying to do is learn Java(a live wallpaper not sticking when all my others do is what started this, it's dumb I know) so I can start programming things to work for our phone(or at least try). I have spent 2 days looking for a good way to learn Java, I have been all over the net hunting for an interactive Java tutorial and have come up empty handed, I found a couple PDFs as well as some online tutorials but they don't explain everything(it seems like they all assume you already know some Java or programming), I am a total beginner and need it all explained, preferably with hands on. I am a fast learner when things are explained and taught properly, I think I could excel at this, so I figure this community is the best place to ask for advice on how and where to proceed, so come on guys help me out what is the best way for a total beginner to proceed, how did you all start, where did you go for help? Again, I am only asking here because I really have spent 2 days looking for a proper tutorial and come up empty handed...THANKS!!:D

Oh, I can skype if some saintly person feels like teaching.

edit:this is what started my obsession http://www.mediafire.com/?jiynwdnmc1z out of the 6 I have this is the only one that wont stick, so I figured why not try to re-build it my self after comparing it to the ones that do stick(it does run perfectly, just wont stick)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] gobi42:
Well if you are a total newbie to programming my best advice is goto your local book store or half-price books(used book store) and find a book on java programing probly too first one would be java progamming for dummies and the second one a more adavaced book go though both of them do the lesson in there and learn by doing best way to do it and then check out the froyo thread for the irc room and if you get stuck ask someone in there oh on here your direct question if you do your homework and give a detialed description of what your working on more people are going to try and help you but this is just my two cents and the extend of my attempt at advice good luck and hope to see your name on an op soon
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Androidious:
Wow, I gotta say, I do like that lwp a lot man. Thanks for posting the link to it :) Good luck on learning Java man. It's not too hard, but once you start scripting with it etc... that's a whole different story, lol
[Hero CDMA Android Development] mrinehart93:
It's good to see someone wants to stop putting up with stuff not working and make it work :) Honestly, I'd just go to your local library, and check out a bunch of stuff on Java... that's what I did with Python :)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] danaff37:
It's going to take a lot of reading and trial and error to learn java. But a little heads up, the live wallpapers that don't stick, is a driver issue, not a programming issue. I don't know enough about android, so unless there is a line you can add to the header to force software rendering, you can't do much about it.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] matthewjulian:
Thanks for the responses guys! I really didn't think of grabbing a Dummies book, I figured there would be a good course online, but that's what I'm going to get first thing tomorrow. I figure once I get familiar with it all(maybe a week or two) I will compare the ones that work with the one that doesn't and go from there. I think the first app I would like to work on would be a request from the forum, you guys all help and give back, I think that would be a great way to put the knowledge to good use:-) Well, thanks again, I'm still open to more suggestions, maybe a couple weeks from now I can at least give you guys a neat wallpaper!

Sent from my HERO200 using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[Hero CDMA Android Development] abadasstanker69:
**** my bad. Not sure I can do that here. Check your pm
[Hero CDMA Android Development] junkshow:
Not to rain on your parade or anything, but the wallpaper you are working on is a pirated upload of a paid LWP in the market. The original author of the LWP would probably be happy to help paid customers get it working.

I'm all for you learning how to code up some cool stuff for the community, and I wish you the best, but stealing other people's stuff isn't the way to go.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] matthewjulian:
hmm, was not intentionally "stealing" I paid for it, the developers response is " LWP's don't work on hero, sorry" so I thought I would try to make it work for me, I'm pretty sure if I could provide a way for hero users to use it they would all gladly pay the $1 as I did, as it stands I "pirated", yet another, unusable app, hey hero users come get your free, unusable, paid app :-)

Sent from my HERO200 using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[Hero CDMA Android Development] junkshow:
That's cool...your OP links to a mediafire download for a paid app, so I didn't realize you knew it was paid. It's lame that the guy won't fix it, but I guess those of us slumming it on the hero have to get used to doing things ourselves, eh? Good luck to you...it is a cool LWP.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] SONIC589:
That wallpaper sticks just fine on my hero. Running Aloysius 2.1 maps version.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] lokipimpin:
Aint you helpful:cool:
[Hero CDMA Android Development] theycallmegq:
Last I checked, this whole site is pirated. If you think about it. It's basically a whole guide on how to hack phones and get free apps. So why are you even putting it out there that the guy is pirating. LOL. Doesn't make any sence but I thought I'de throw that in there. :)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] abcdfv:
Get out. Now. Seriously.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Jwahlg:
You best be Trolling
[Hero CDMA Android Development] matthewjulian:
wow, I seriously apologize for all of this, all I wanted to do was give back to our community, I have been taking for a year plus & thought it was time to step it up a notch, I did not want to start fights, sorry, if any mods want me to take it down I will.(oh,I really paid for it, that's my mediafire account,after it didn't work I pulled it off my phone to try and work with it.) I'm getting my books now, if I get stuck I hope I can post my questions, thanks again guys!

Sent from my HERO200 using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[Hero CDMA Android Development] johnson8cyl:
First off theycallmegq. This site does not promote pirating anything. Read the forum rules posted by binary. Who might just ban you if your not careful.

That being said. I would highly recommend the for dummies set of books for starters. Thats what im doing with linux and programming. Also there is a book specifically on the android platform and development at the book stores as well. Last i checked in the computer at barnes and noble i think it was they were coming out with a new one i think had to do with java and android. There was also a post in here a while back about learning development after you have an understanding of the basics at least. Might want to search for that after a couple of weeks. Good luck with your adventure. Im sure the creator of the lwp wouldnt mind you helping make it better. :)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] fczeuner:
I think the poster used an unfortunate choice of words. If this was a site concerning iphone OS development it definately would be considered hacking. Modifying Apple OS in anyway is a NO NO! It was hard for me "At first" to get past the "Openess" of Android. Thats why we sould be screaming anytime we see E-fuses in phones (Motorola) or No sideloading of Apps (AT&T). I for one am thankful to be able to have source code to work with and a group such as this one to help out. My little hero is thankful too :D... Without you guys I would have an EVO by now...

As far as Java Programming, do a search on "Java Tutorial". Theres a lot at your finger tips.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] nlinux:
Try:

www.javapassion.com

just recently changed to a subscription based site, but first few chapters of each class are free to try and learn, even have an android class strarting at the end of the month.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] PTown599:
That LWP works fine for me too.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Androidious:
Theycallmegq: Seriously, ur done. Its people like you that ruin it for good people like those here at XDA, well most here at xda.

To all others , I apologize if I've offended by getting that off my chest. Trolls get on me nerves, lol

:-)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] matthewjulian:
Just wanted to let you all know that I am spending every spare second I have with my books and my MacBook plugging away at this, I have to say I feel like I am picking this up fairly easily, but as someone pointed out to me, applying this to android will be a whole different story! I wont give up, might be a few more weeks but I WILL DO THIS:D

Oh and thanks again for all the advice!!:D
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mykeldrip:
so ive been holding off on switching to sprint, all because i want an evo but i hate hate sense!! has no one made a stock froyo rom yet? is it not possible? or a rom with no sense in it? like not just some stuff taken out i mean completely sense free!?!?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StillSound:
All of the Froyo ROMs that first surfaced were AOSP I believe. There are plenty to choose from.

Sent from my DamageControlled EVO
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MCL1981:
You can just turn off sense and use a normal android interface.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sporkman:
did you check the dev section ?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheBiles:
CyanogenMod, the greatest AOSP ROM made, is expected to release on the EVO either today or in the very near future.

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[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheBiles:
No, you can disable the Sense home launcher. You can't fully disable Sense by any stretch of the imagination without an AOSP ROM.

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[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] -shift-:
i believe it's still going to be rc1, so not everything is going to be working (wimax and hdmi come to mind right now).

but yes, still more than likely to be more polished than sense.