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[Galaxy S I9000 General] dakine:
When the phone was just released it really had some issues but I'm on JM2 now and I really don't have much to complain about. My gps works, the lag is minimal and it's all together a great phone.

Not everyone has the patience to fix a product even if the fix is simple and I respect that but, if you've been hanging out here reading and posting for weeks and then still return your SGS for an iphone 4 then I just have to laugh. There is no reason why you couldn't get your SGS working great with a minimum of effort unless it was broken.

Saying that all Android apps are inferior is silly. Complaining that google steals your info silly. The same spyware that exists on Android is also baked into 25% of all iphone apps so good luck with that. I've seen numerous posts from just a few persons that are way over the top, if this device was really such a mess there would be a lot more complaining.

Yes Samsung shouldn't have released it with a buggy Rom and, since I'm on this rant, they should have hired someone else to do the marketing and styling because the default wallpapers and launcher are just soo boring. Samsung, FFS we are MEN (sorry ladies), we love robots, rockets, fast cars and machine guns NOT balls of yarn and a picture of Venice. Samsung the next ad you run stick a hot chick flying an F22 on that wallpaper and watch how fast that phone sells :D
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
i've been using a few iphones, and i can say the apps included for iphones are horrible for business users.

most people that had an iphone had switched to a blackberry, most people use a phone for business and iphone was not able to deliver.

ironically Windows Mobile phones are not that much better at it either, that's why Blackberry are so famous among business users, and people that dumped iphones

now with the Android phones out there is a better hope.

basically now you get to choose:

Blackberry vs. Android

Android is maturing quite well for business users.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] larryccf:
dakine - did your gps work before or did JM2 correct it??
[Galaxy S I9000 General] andrewluecke:
I'm keeping this phone, because its android, and I want to develop (iPhones are horrible for that). The hardware IS good, and yes, there are some bugs now, but those will get fixed.

iPhones are also a pain in the ass because for many good apps, they need jailbreaking which bricks your phone most updates. iTunes also sucks, and you'll never get flash on the iPhones.

But I find Android brilliant, and whilst I currently experience issues with GPS, I don't think Samsung can be blamed. They probably ported the drivers themselves, and that takes a lot of effort to do perfectly. GPS isn't something which is easy to test either.

In regards to Eaglesteve's concerns, you can tell he is NEW to the iPhone's. About his privacy concerns, the iPhone's are MUCH worse in that department. There have been plenty of malicious apps for the iPhones too, and Apple's security record is much worse than Google's. In fact, he recommends jailbreaking, but he doesn't realise yet that updating jailbroken apple phones cause serious nightmares (and for a short time in some cases, even totally bricked them). However, in his case, I believe he is still commenting that his backup app moved his contacts to Google's cloud (without recognizing that most actions on the iPhone go through Apple's gateway). Just the other day, someone sneaked in a flashlight that actually acted as a tethering app into Apple's store, so proves even after messing around developers, they aren't immune (at least on Android we can see exactly what the apps we are installing are capable of). Also, stuff like the antenna debacle happen constantly with Apple equipment, but they generally don't make news. It doesn't matter how buggy Samsung's drivers are, because Apple released their phone with a major antenna issue with an obvious fix, and then lied. GPS might suck for us, but at least it likely isn't a hardware issue..

Anyway, the Galaxy S is much more developer friendly, and has better hardware. You aren't forced to use iTunes, and if you want to jailbreak, Samsung don't really care (hence why they have open sourced a lot). I don't mind broken GPS for a short time. All my music is encoded as Flac (which iPhone's don't support), and I dislike iTunes. The other Android phones might seem nicer now, but once samsung fixes the drivers, I believe the Galaxy S will shoot ahead.

The only other phones I would consider currently are HTC's, but the 4G is useless in Australia, and the Galaxy S has a much faster GPU anyway. But that's just me. At the end of the day, you need to look at what you REALLY are going to do with it. And if Samsung fixes the GPS drivers, I'll be the happiest phone owner alive.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
Amen to that mate!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dakine:
Before jm2 my phone would often lose its fix or just jump around alot, that seems to be fixed now and it works well for me in the car. It probably still needs improvement though for stuff like running.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] andrewluecke:
If you open up the phone, some people reckon the small jack is for an antenna, anyone tried connecting to it yet to see if it affects GPS?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Jamm59:
I returned my SGS to my dealer due to GPS and lagging issues.

I do not want my money back.

I do not want an other brand.

I only want a working SGS.

Been waiting for an official Samsung Firmware update for a month now, but nothing available. Sendt an E-Mailed to Samsung Nordic Support, a moth ago, received this reply "We have escalated this on to the right department and we will contact you as soon as possible".

I am not sure if the GPS and lagging issues are soft or hardware related and that's why I don't go for an un-official Samsung firmware.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tameracingdriver:
Class post, this :D

Totally agree. No girl I know would consider an SGS because it is: (1) too complicated and (2) isn't an iphone. Yet even the iPhone doesn't look as "girly" as the stock SGS wallpapers and GUI!

This is one area where the Droid X shows how it should be done with its slick, industrial GUI, and thats how I've been trying to customise my SGS !
[Galaxy S I9000 General] widjaja74_us:
Count me in too.... i am also waiting for samsung to fix the GPS issue before repurchasing the galaxy s.....It is still the best available Android phone in the market right now if everything works without problem
[Galaxy S I9000 General] widjaja74_us:
A dog that poops? no no no no no, i'll give the poops to you to eat so you can shut your careless mouth
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kenkiller:
Yes, the troll is back to eat the poop. Welcome back. :D
[Galaxy S I9000 General] RADLOUNI:
an SGS user

Hi guys

After going through this thread i wanted to share my experience with the SGS that i bought 3 weeks ago.

I previously owned an iphone 3gs and sold it 3 weeks ago due to the limitations of the Apple IOS 4.

after checking the hardware specs for the SGS and checking reviews about it on the internet, i decided to buy it as it seemed to be far superior to the 3GS

my frank feedback after trying it for 3 weeks (please guys dont hate me for this) is that although it has twice the hardware specs of the 3gs, yet it cannot compete with it when it comes to UI responsiveness and smooth usage.

Frankly i dont know whether this is a software problem from samsung because the hardware specs of the phone are just amazing.

with Apple IOS 4.0 or 3.1.3, it does not matter how many applications you open or close, the phone is continuously smooth and responsive. As much as i hate to say that but i have to admit it. Even when apple releases ios 4.0 with multitasking, the level of responsiveness did not change

I am sure that samsung are working hard to release new firmwares and POSSIBLY fix those issues, but the fact is that they have released an un-finished product in terms of the mobile phone firmware and the management software that comes with it (you have to struggle with kies to be able to sync your data with outlook as compared to itunes that beautifully does the job out of the box)

It is is really a waste that such a magnificent mobile phone has such a medium grade firmware to run it

Samsung is yet to release a firmware that can use the full power of the SGS

Sorry again but this is my honest opinion
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ml78:
Why are you sorry? You should naturally expect a device 1 month Old to be perfekt and complete. And comming from Apple you äre probably used to super fast firmware fixes.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Kpennett:
I AGREE SGS 1.5 Eclair firmware is what's causing the lagging... "FROYO please"

Sent from my SGH-T959 using swype & XDA App
[Galaxy S I9000 General] appelflap:
How to sell 10 million SGSs?

Fortune tech reported july 13th that:

(source: http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2010/07/13/samsung-galaxy-to-add-10-million-to-android/ )

With this target, I just can't believe that Samsung won't do anything to respond to the bad publicity that is generated by unsatisfied users.

But, to be honest, I think the device is still very impressive. Although i'm a little influenced by all negative reports, I still can't say that this is not the best phone I've ever had :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] RADLOUNI:
Very funney :)

but when a company releases a phone to the public, it should be complete to a certain extent.

Bugs will always be there, but not to a large extent

When i picked up my phone from the reseller with original firmware, it was virtually unusable
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ml78:
I hope you atleast replaced the phone once before ditching it? im on original firmware jf3 and to call that unusable is just silly. Perhaps you had a defect copy?

But as long as you are happy with your decision im happy! the Iphone is Awesome to.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] riz157:
my personal opinion using sgs was one of sheer disappointment and now to definitely best mobile out there in the uk. Why do I say this, well straight out of the box this deserved to go back in the box almost instantly. However after using for over the weeks and flashing almost every firmware out there, incidently there isn't that many compatible ones out there, I have finally found the best working one for me. The gps still isn't working aswell as it should but I can live with that, however the awful lagging and freezing issue has pretty much gone. Not experienced that as of yet, the screen resolution is second to none and compared to my brother in laws iphone 4. Boy was he envious after trying sgs he wanted it, all I heard from him was complaints about the poor reception on his iphone people complaining about not been able to get through to him. He was very disappointed with the iphone.

So I played around with his iphone to see if It could replace my sgs and honestly it couldn't, there are features which iphone is better then sgs like the camera, apps, emailing, multitasking and design but that is it. Whereas the sgs beats the iphone with better screen size, android, customization, graphics, hardware keys, external memory, lighter, tweaking, texting, calls, internet browsing, thats all I can think off.

I would swap my sgs for my iphone but only to sell it for profit and them buy sgs again.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] adrianx26:
hello to all

1) the gps will show your position with 30-40 meters precision (tested on current desire and X850 eten, and will be with GSG in 24 hours)

the speed of locating the precise position on desire is 20-25 seconds from the moment when I open the google maps, on the eten will take 15-20 seconds.

but this have no big relevance to me, the data from the gps satellite is statistical...so will receive data after data and calculate/track a probable position

On my network (vodafone.ro) can be use A-GPS, also the tracking is more accurate.

2) Also I have a htc desire and I have this phone from 13 May 2010. The decision is to move to Galaxy S. The reasons are many, like : short memory storage for application, lack of 720p recording (even with the 2.2 update the recording is laggy), problems with contacts, problems with some strange restart problems, and annoying low space warning even when the free space exist.

When my eten x850 batteries die, I decide to move to galaxy s (this was not available I buy htc desire)

So I will wait for the galaxy s phone that will arrive tomorrow... and also ... I will sell today the htc desire.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] NorcoFox:
I am more than happy with the SGS out of the box, maybe this is because I have come from Windows Mobile :D
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
same here :D
[Galaxy S I9000 General] andrej.marinic:
or symbian for that matter. it has long outlived it's purpose. personally, I think this is a great phone with one big issue, and that is gps. and android simply rocks :) I'll definitely stick with this phone for a while.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] waz000000:
Im used to htc phones ect in fact if you look enough you will find postings from me on almost every device from windows to android (desire, nexus one, galaxy, HD2) these are my recent one's.

I don't know what the phone was like out of the box, i got it out of the box came on here and looked for the newest rom. Im almost 32 and enjoy "messing" with my phone, Ive had iphones and ive got a 3g in the draw it bores me.

I do understand people wanting things working out the box but anything based on Unix/linux never works out of the box, it's designed to be user tweaked and none restrictive. Im not a linux expert I leave that to the guys here and enjoy the fruits of their labour but I have "never" has a "smart" phone work out of the box.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dakine:
Jm7 + voodoo = what this phone should have been like from the start.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] shawn_pro:
Guys i had great hope from my SGS and inspite of reading the lag reports i got one. I had hoped that the firmware upgrade would do wonders to it. Fine with GPS issue, this issue and that issue but lag. The advertised as 1GHZ hummingbird as 3x faster than Snapdragon. Well someone from Samsung lied. Seriously crippled hardware due to software. I am not asking for speed when i open 100 apps together but just open contacts, music player, file manager or just plain phone or SMS apps. This is really ridiculous. I dont want to do lag fix. Many other android does not need a lag fix to open the default phone or SMS to work lag free. Then why this super phone needs it. The firmware upgrade is really aa joke.

I have installed JM6, rooted with just root explorer, EStrong explorer, Asphalt, raging kart and audio boost installed. I have removed all unwanted system apps and kept just single home screen. With just task manager widget. Removed unwanted ring tones. turned off GPS, wifi, background sync etc etc I dont want to do a SD card lag fix or internal memory lag fix. I also ensured that there are just 1 or 0 apps running in the background at any time. Still the phone lags with 0 apps opened when i just try to open phone to dial a number. Thought of updating to JPC but again that firmware has the problem of its own of changing the product code and unlock code. I man like guys why do we have struggle a lot to update our phones.

People keep updating their firmware not to see extra features but to see if their lag fix is gone or is their GPS is working fine. I mean Samsung is that really too much that we are asking for.

Guys in Gsmarena review really hid the fact from major disadvantages section that this device lags like hell and please go get a HTC Desire. Samsung paid them enough is guess to remain mum on that.

Samsung take that Super AMOLED back and give us plain LCD but give us a lag free device. All the other cheaper device simply performs I/O better than SGS. Due to this stuped ignorance of Samsung we see only a few developers actuall making ROMS for SGS. But just have look at HTC Desire forums. atleast 20 to 30 ROM in their posts.

Guess who all are stuck with their SGS cant do much. Jut hope that one day Samsung will give us a firmware with which that lags will be reduced to 50%.

Trust me this is the last handset that i've bought and will never recommend or buy another Samsung phone again.

Samsung if you are reading this - "If not full then atleast try to fulfill atleast half your promises you made to all of us in ur dashing Flash ADS that we see on many sites".

Finally i will still keep this device and the lag will remind me never buy another Samsung phone unless a miracle happens,
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tyj82:
Iphone vs SGS

Having about 80% of iphone user in office and 4 iphone 4 since it's launch. My SGS standout straight away on the day i got my phone.

I touched the wave live wallpaper and the iphone user eyes poped out.

I show off the video play and all heard is "WOW, very nice, clear"

I bluetooth the video to WM6 so both can be played together. And iphone user i saying "why i cant see other iphone. how to send file over bluetooth ?"

That is first day

1 week later, I got and sms and phone says "you got incoming email from <person name>". Everyone looks at me... why your phone can speaks ........Thanks to "saymyname" apps

I has been hearing the same ringtone from most iphone user as they most of them do not customized the ringtones.

A week ago, I was hanging out with my friend at coffeebean and the free wireless failed us.

I bring out SGS and enable wireless tethering and the story goes.

The only things i miss the most is Garmin navigation software from WM6

This is my 3 week experience with SGS
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Rat2000:
i am having some lags to but it allways loads my cals with no problems.

With the rest of the problems...i have never head them... the gps doesn't work ok? and the signal allways drops? i didn't even know galaxy s could have this...i think you should have change for a replacement because in my opinion it was something wrong with your phone or mayby your os was very outdated.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mobilifishi3:
from uk, stock, str8 outta the box works like a dream. Only issue for megps takes forever to get a lock.

suspect many people are happy, but thanks for letting us know!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] neil85ae86:
I returned mine

the GPS and the non-symmetrical motion sensor were my biggest annoyances, bothering me more and more as each day went buy

I honestly didn't get enough of a lag problem to care, it was fine in that regard.

my battery life was awesome, 2 days with plenty of surfing and playing.

the eyecandy on this phone is awesome, but I turn it all off to save battery, it's nice to have the power for games and video, it's actually a little blingy for me overall, I prefer something more solid and utilitarian without they eyecandy and wannabe iPhone looks.

typing was great, can't get much better than that, the word prediction setup isn't as nice as apple but otherwise it's as good or better.

their were a few other small glitches but nothing deal breaking, I did like the phone however the issues were too much for me to be willing to pay over $60 mo for 3 years (bell canada).

I liked it enough that if Samsung do get it all fixed up before the end of September, I'll likely order another, GPS is just too important for me. It's pathetic when my 3 year old HTC can match my extra sensitive Garmin for GPS performance and Samsung isn't their yet. I also think they are being a bit shady about it, has anyone actually got someone on the phone in an official call centre from samsung or their carrier to admit their is a problem?

Neil
[Galaxy S I9000 General] betoNL:
GPS is that important for you? And you still navigate with A-gps??

What happens when you are abroad? Online gps navigation with all those roaming costs?

OFFLINE gps navigation man! It.s all about freedom!

I Connect mine compact external bluetooth gps receiver( with a sirfstarIII chipset) with the sgs and it ROCKS! Running the last versions of Sygic, Navigon, CoPilot, iGo motonav like a charm!

Dont let the big corporations tell you to go online to navigate! ALL of them put crappy and weak internal gps receivers in almost all smartphones so you get dependable on a-gps to get a fast and steady sattelite fixes.

Offline gps navigation!! Take control.....
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Beowulf_pt:
I cannot comment on GSM Arena as I do not know enough. Perhaps they are not evil but were just sloppy and didn't bother do do proper GPS testing (usually they never do, never showing tracks or anything similar).

But there is indeed something fishy going on as I read tons of SGS reviews on several sites and ***NONE*** mentioned the two enormously obvious problems (nasty lag and fairly useless GPS).

Unfortunately these days reviewers just focus on repeating the basics over and over again and focusing on what isn't really important (facebook support, how easily can you use twitter and so on) instead of more measurable aspects like "can it take me from home to a shopping mall 5 miles away" or "can I use it daily without wanting to throw it at a wall due to all the pauses and lagging mixed with intermittent moments of very fast performance.

I wonder if their new tab will be a similar flop when it comes to these 2 issues...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] redeuxx:
I've had the same problems with widjaja74_us. I was about to dump the phone for something else, but after rooting it and installing the lag fix, it has revived my hope for the phone. Rooting completely fixed my screwy GPS problem and made my phone responsive. The signal problem is still there though, and I would argue that from my limited experience, it has an even worse signal problem than the iPhone 4 or any other iPhone I've owned.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ickyboo:
Nice story! :)

btw your sig has got some devices that I've also used in the past
[Galaxy S I9000 General] nCoder:
Hi

I have a different experience, and perhaps could give you some advice.

I don't have any LagFix now, GPS is working fine, etc. since updated to official JM2. I have ~120 apps installed (no, I don't need them all :))

The simptoms you describe could be a hardware problem though... I never needed to remove the battery, even with previous laggy ROMs.

Could you try to reset your device (clean cache, storage, sdcard, ... everything?)

- After reset you need to setup everything again, like the first time you used your phone.

- Install Advanced Task Killer (configure it to kill disabled applications every x hours)

- Install SeePU (you can see processor and memory consumption in real time)

- Install AppBrain

- Run Appbrain to install all your apps again.

Monitor the Memory and Processor in the SeePU icon and see if you can identify any application installed that may be causing any lag.

If you continue having that (hardware) problems, I suggest you go to a Samsung Service Centre ;)