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[EVO 4G General] halorin:
This is a dead horse being mercilessly beaten. Some of the kernels hit 50 fps, and really that's all that's needed. It feels absolutely smooth. If it's possible to 'correctly' remove the cap, then I have every confidence in the dev community to break it.

But, creating these threads are not productive, and offer nothing that hasn't been said before. If all we're left with is a dirty hack, I'd be happy.
[EVO 4G General] shep211:
Yes the fps is capped at 30 and yes the hack does work for novatec panels. Epson get tearing with the fps hack.
[EVO 4G General] netarchy:
Not for long. *evil grin*
[EVO 4G General] EliWay:
The hack does get us past the 30fps. Before the source was released they got close to 56fps on both Novatek and Epson LCD panels. Now with a new source the most they have been able to get is 40-50fps, but now with working camera and 4G. It's only a matter of time though. And if you know HTC, they are known for saying it's a hardware limitation when it's in fact, software.

The phone has only been on sale for little over a month and look at all the amazing work that has been done. This amazing community's work rivals the speed of light, so I wouldn't worry about it.
[EVO 4G General] sablesurfer:
I may be misunderstanding what a midi adapter is...but...what I am thinking of has nothing to do with video?
[EVO 4G General] kellybrf:
no, this is new information. there is no mention on this forum of mddi or rgb interfaces (i checked...edit, except that i checked the wrong thing :)) obviously theyve been able to do some things, but its beating a dead horse to try and remove the cap the correct way because its a hardware limitation. anyway, i put the information out there for the developers who know about these things, not for people to debate on if its right or not. tear down your evo if you want and youll find the parts, do the research and find it to be the case
[EVO 4G General] EliWay:
It's not. Do more searching and you will find it. Heck, I even got that same information as a reply from HTC customer service more than 20 days ago!
[EVO 4G General] Vinny75:
That has been 'known' now for about two weeks, A quick search would have revealed that this 'engineer' hasn't revealed anything that HTC hasn't claimed before

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6896671&postcount=982

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6897077&postcount=989
[EVO 4G General] JordanClay2003:
If it was a hardware cap it would be IMPOSSIBLE to have a software "dirty hack" bypass it.... What you are saying is IMPOSSIBLE! We have proven that it is not a hardware cap. It would be helpful since you are a EVO engineer at HTC. To hook us up with the people responsible for the coding of this fps limit. I am not flaming.
[EVO 4G General] kellybrf:
wow, been a long day. mddi, which explains why midi turned up no results :)
[EVO 4G General] Petronic:
The look of 24p is only considered superior because it's more film-like - which is purely a matter of conditioning on our part. We've become adjusted to an image with limited data and we somehow equate this with quality, as it's nearly analogous to the film experience which was considered greatly superior to video until recent years. (Even when the bulk of televisions default to 3:2 pulldown to display it. Ugh.)

That being said, I'd never use that excuse for a refresh rate on a monitor. I'm sorry, that argument simply doesn't carry any weight with me.

I'm more than happy with my phone and I don't play any games on it, so I'm not too upset if this news does end up being the final word - but the comparison to film and television simply isn't applicable.

Anyway, hasn't anyone ever watched sports in 720p at 60 fields per second and marveled at how smooth the action is?
[EVO 4G General] xHausx:
n/m :)
[EVO 4G General] Geniusdog254:
<rant>

God people are idiots. I'm not going to reiterate what all has been said here about it not being hardware, because it would be pointless. Suffice it to say I agree with all of that.

Plus. Good lord people! Read! It is NOT A MIDI ADAPTER!!! MIDI is a music interface for hooking things like piano keyboards into computers for software like Finale to use. The LCD is on the MDDI adapter, and MDDI is actually a software specification, our boards use MDDI 1.1.

</rant>
[EVO 4G General] Petronic:
The rockin' 31,250bps throughput on the midi bus would make for far worse than 30fps refresh, anyway.
[EVO 4G General] kennyc1:
decaf, try it.
[EVO 4G General] Geniusdog254:
Sorry :o

I have seen so many threads on this issue in the past month it's ridiculous. Not to mention the people who keep spewing the same misinformation can't even get it right. It gets just a lil bit annoying ;)
[EVO 4G General] :
The Mods should just close this thread, because for the millionth time this month someone has posted yet another "official" HTC response without truly understanding what they are talking about.

~Jasecloud4
[EVO 4G General] JordanClay2003:
Thank you.

If you are a Official HTC EVO 4G Engineer. Then you are a perfect example of why we have this cap in the first place.
[EVO 4G General] cnstarz:
the tearing happens as a result of the frame rate of the content not matching the refresh rate of the screen. fix that and you're golden.
[EVO 4G General] :
Well considering a normal LCD has something like a million plus hours of battery life on it, we should be okay. But it never hurts to look into that ;)

~Jasecloud4
[EVO 4G General] TorxT3D:
will these current "dirty hacks" diminsh the lifespan on the lcds??

sounds to me like these hacks are overworking the lcd screen and ive read here and there that the lcds could possibly burn out.

any truth or explanation to this?
[EVO 4G General] kennyc1:
Just having a little fun and I do agree with you. I am a newbie and just rooted for the first time Thursday. With any forum I lurk and soak up all info I can before posting.

With release of EVO IMO it's more important to read everything before posting as you have massive amount of people who are new to Android signing up and asking questions that are already answered nth times. It gets old even for a newbie like me. :p
[EVO 4G General] Petronic:
It's simply good forum etiquette to try and answer your own questions before asking. Back in the usenet days (I'm dating myself here), this sort of thing would be resolved by ornery geeks flaming the problematic newbs into submission. Sadly that sort of community self-policing has faded away with the further democratization of internet access; once it stopped being such a quasi-private club, people were less inclined to defend it.

I'm constantly amazed at the number of people that will ask for help when the answer they're seeking is in a thread that's clearly described on the same page in which they post their question. I guess I'm ornery, but instead of griping at the people I just choose to ignore their question.
[EVO 4G General] muncheroo:
if anyone ever meets an EVO engineer, make sure you slap them as hard as you can for deciding it's a good idea to implement some useless feature 99% of us will never use at the cost of 30 fps cap. hit him hard. with a brick.
[EVO 4G General] JordanClay2003:
Lol dude i quoted you for the first part..... The second part was for her...I was saying to you thanks for the post you put up. And i was saying to her That she was the reason we have the cap. I guess i didn't specify who I was talking to in the end there. I'm not that great at sentences.

there i edited it to look how i wanted to say it now.....
[EVO 4G General] red man:
pluck htc's bullterd claims blah blah blah... Might as well say we are too lazy to put out a fix. Xda should work for them and show them how things are done!!!!!! Xda rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!

edited by mod. watch the language
[EVO 4G General] :
No prob...originally there was no second quote lololol...I thought you had directed it towards me and it confused the daylights out of me. ;)

~Jasecloud4
[EVO 4G General] acrh2:
Just throwing it out there...

Perhaps The HTC Engineer is not as smart as he wants to be. Maybe years of working inside the box have taken the toll on the flexibility of his mind.
[EVO 4G General] Geniusdog254:
This. This is epic.

Lol I seriously laughed at this one
[EVO 4G General] Petronic:
It's far more likely that the decision was made by a group of people operating under an inflexible deadline, all with their own ideas as to the best way to go about making this implementation of HDMI work.

It's cute to watch people that are totally clueless about the corporate development process spew hateful and/or violent invectives, though.
[EVO 4G General] topdnbass:
Ps I love u

Swyped from my Evo 4G
[EVO 4G General] SPENONE:
Here is the latest reply i got from HTC:

Hello (my name),

The FPS limitation on the HTC EVO4G is a hardware cap. It cannot be fixed with any software tweeks and will not be looked upon any further, because Lebron James has now joined the Miami heat and all will be better in the world in due time.

Please sit back relax and watch as it goes down. Peace.

HTC engeneezy

:eek:
[EVO 4G General] jayv1717:
yessss!!!! BEST response yet..lol
[EVO 4G General] acrh2:
I was commenting on the intelligence of the htc engineer, not on the reason for the cap.

Perhaps the htc engineer isn't so bright, and he just can't figure out how to fix this cap.

Especially considering that netarchy already fixed it.
[HD2 General] hgalanos:
Hi everyone,

I am hoping to save you all headaches and the pain of hardware resets. I finally figured this out and wanted to share it with you as I know how much time we all spend customizing our HD2's and how long it takes after a hardware reset.

The problem:

HTC Sense will not load. Hardware reset required. This happened to be 7-8 times before I realised what caused it.

You either shutdown or reset your phone and HTC Sense fails to load. ALso get certificate errors, and most apps/programs file to load

What was causing it:

There could be many causes. For me it was the following. Each time:

I connect my phone to my PC in 'Disk Drive' mode. All works fine. Once I disconnect the phone from the pc, or when I rest. I get the problem mentioned above. Nothing I can do, simply have to hardware reset.

Why it happens:

If you have apps/tweaks/programs or anything else for that matter installed on the SD card. When you connect the phone to your pc in 'Disk Drive' mode, it locks the SD card exclusively by the pc. Therefore WM and Sense cannot access the SD card. If you go to your phone and use file explorer, you will see that the SD card is not visible/available.

Somehow this damages the registry/apps/programs causing the problems outlined above.

This happened to me several times. Each time I had installed apps and though it was that particular app. The last time I did nothing. Just transferred some movies and the problem happened. Thats when I did another test. Again, same problem.

I have always connect my phone in ActiveSync mode now, never had this problem again.

BEWARE - DO NOT connect your phone in 'Disk Drive' mode to your PC.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED
[HD2 General] gamer-Kenny:
I also had this problem, but I never used diskdrive mode :rolleyes:
[HD2 General] watcher64:
This is the truth about disk drive mode, not the above!!

All you have to do to avoid these issues is use a little common sense ....

Disk drive mode is a lot faster than Active Sync so for , syncing large files, or a lot of music Disk drive mode does it in half the time ...

Now some of the points you made are true, if you connect in disk drive mode, your phone does not have access to the SD for the duration of your connection ...

Now here is where the common sense comes in .... Follow along ....

1.) Connect your phone via disk drive mode, lay it down, and DON'T TOUCH IT TILL YOUR DONE, and are going to unplug it ...

That is about it ....

If you want to be really really safe(read paranoid), you can switch to airplane mode for the duration ..

I use my phone about 85% of the time in disk drive mode and have had none of the "problems" above ...

So again treat it like you are supposed to , treat it like a removable drive, you don't try to run programs or make calls on your thumb drive, or you external hard drive do you(this does not mean run programs from , wanted to add this to eliminate the obvious)?

Now with all that said, Disk Drive mode is much faster if you use it like you are supposed.

p.s. And it is just safe to unplug your phone from the USB if you need to reset it, saves power spikes, driver load time, and just a bunch of headaches, like the fact it is a usb drive that you just UN-safely removed from your PC because you reset it and that caused it to hard disconnect.

One more thing, it is not a good thing to make statements like you have made to be, FACT, to the community, if you work for HTC or a hardware manufacturer and are pointing out a defect then that is good, but your points are not really FACT , they are your experience.​
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
well theres your problem, tweaks on the sd card? just asking for trouble.

any program that either interacts with the system, or runs in the background, or tweaks should always go on device.
[HD2 General] ASCIIker:
totally agree with that! the disk drive mode is EXTREMELY valuable. my kaiser didn't have it, and so i carried around a microsd card reader in my pocket along with the phone.

with the hd2, i don't have to carry the card reader anymore (though the card reader is even faster).

in my use, i have never been forced to do a hard reset as an outcome of daily use of the phone and its advertised features. this includes almost daily use of the disk drive mode.

during this time, sense has remained stable...with CHT installed...to DEVICE memory of course. which leads me to my final point. install all your programs to device memory, especially services and background applications or start up applications. keep your active wallpapers and ring tones and message tones and theme related stuff on device memory. games and documents and media and the like can go on the storage card. heck i even install games to my device memory because i can...the HD2 has 2-3 times more device memory than the windows mobile devices of the past 3 years!

perhaps the more appropriate warning for everyone is:

AVOID INSTALLING PROGRAMS TO THE STORAGE CARD IF YOU INTEND ON USING THE DISK DRIVE MODE. IF YOU MUST INSTALL TO THE STORAGE CARD, THEN AVOID UNNECESSARY USE OF THE DEVICE WHILE IT IS IN DISK DRIVE MODE.
[HD2 General] chuck232:
Seems like a lot of sensationalism in the OP, but the point is valid. Installing apps/tweaks/etc to the SD card and then attempting to use elements which access those resources while they're not available is bound to create issues.

Simply install those applications/tweaks to the internal memory. I've done this, use disk mode 95% of the time and have not had any issues with Sense crapping itself.
[HD2 General] watcher64:
My Fear with the title of this post is , those that do not know any better, will not actually read the thread, but only the opening post ...

Things like "DO NOT" and "MUST READ" in the title imply facts not in evidence.

And to be honest, and trying not to hurt anybodies feelings(yeah right!), there are enough misconceptions by newbe's , we do not need more ....
[HD2 General] dharvey4651:
Alright time to settle this once and for all. I literally JUST did what you expressly warned us all not to do and I can say for a FACT that the Mass Storage/Disk Drive works absolutely fine.

Steps to avoid your problem -

1. After connecting to Mass Storage mode, lay the phone down and LEAVE IT ALONE. Like watcher said earlier, you don't pick up your portable hard drive and play with it while it's connected to your PC so why would you do this to your phone when it's acting as a portable hard drive?

2. Don't run apps installed to SD card while the phone is connected in Mass Storage mode. When in Mass Storage mode, your device CANNOT access the SD card. Your phone is acting as an SD card reader. Therefore if you try to run an app that is installed to the SD card while connected in this method, you will get an error. No brainer.

3. You know that neat little system tray in the bottom right hand corner of your Windows computer? Down there is a "Safely remove hardware" button. Get used to using this button. It's the only way to remove the hardware from without risking damage to the data on the card. If you just unplug the phone from the PC, you're not giving either the phone or the PC any warning about what you're about to do. If you use the "Safely remove hardware" feature on your PC, it stops the drivers on a software level, making it safe to unplug the device without the risk of damage to the files. NO BRAINER.

4. Follow my advice - It'll save you future headaches while continuing to use the Mass Storage mode on your phone.

Cheers -

Dan
[HD2 General] dharvey4651:
Title of the thread changed:

From

DO NOT Use Disk Drive mode - MUST READ

To

Using Disk Drive Mode - Avoiding potential issues.

I fear that the original title of the thread could be misleading to some and so it was changed to something more "informative" as opposed to what it was, a warning.
[HD2 General] dan138zig:
c'mon, man. just like others said, it's just sensationalism and if you used common sense you wouldn't post this thread. have you tried copying big files via active sync? apparently not.
[HD2 General] dharvey4651:
Who might I ask is your post targeting? In examples like this, when specifically targeting your message to a single person and not as a general statement, it's best to quote at least part of the message you're replying to.

-DH
[HD2 General] dan138zig:
sorry. i was speaking to the OP :)
[HD2 General] nrfitchett4:
question about the disk drive mode and double twist. Anytime I try to use disk drive mode, double twist tries to run. So I have been using active sync only.

Question 1: Do I need double twist?

Question 2: If I let it run, what is gonna happen?

Used disk drive mode on my tp2 all the time (well, when transfering certain converted movies....) and had no problems.
[HD2 General] watcher64:
just delete the autorun.inf off your sd card ...

It is just a media sync app that sucks IMHO ...
[HD2 General] hgalanos:
Good to see all the feedback.

I can tell you for a FACT that I tested this again.

I connected it to the pc, did nothing. Disconnected the phone, all ok.

I did a soft reset after a few mins. Same thing. Sense crapped itself.

I have BSB Tweaks, CHT, and various other UI tweaks installed on phone memory. I have various apps on the SD card.

Anyways, another question.

The size displayed for the phone memory under windows when the phone is connected. Is this the total space left on internal memory, or only space left to install apps?

Reason I am asking is that if I install everything on the internal mem, won't it kill performance and cause other issues?

Thanks.
[HD2 General] hgalanos:
Of course I have copie dlarge files. Why else would I buy a phone with SD storage available.

I have a 16GB SD card and copy movies to it all the time. I use Windows explorer, takes a little longer, but regardless of any other opinions, I will not be using Disk Drive mode ever again. I have been burnt too many times.
[HD2 General] xaccers:
I've always used disk drive mode, pulled the phone out without doing safely remove, taken phone calls, run apps which are installed on the phone not the SD and never had a problem.

Perhaps you've got a duff phone that's a little bit sensitive, or a duff app which is causing it?
[HD2 General] nrfitchett4:
thanks. I wasn't sure if the autorun.inf was for that or something else. I need to transfer over some psx games to the storage card and I don't like taking the back off the phone more than necessary.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] garfnodie:
Are there any drag racing fans out there who also happen to be LWP dev's?

I had a couple of idea's for a drag racing themed LWP. First is just a simple christmas tree that cycles through the lights as you tap it. Another would be a running big block on the screen that reacts to the CPU cycles, i.e. as the CPU cycles go up, the engine runs faster and you see more flame coming out the pipes. I'm sure you get the idea.

I'm sure there are more idea's that you all could come up with, just throwing the idea out there.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] barnacles10:
7/11: I have posted new versions of each. The white is toned down a bit to match the HTC EVO emblem, and not be overwhelming. And both fonts have been smoothed so it looks much better.

I also changed the file in each zip to contain the correct name so those of you having problems should be able to run the command without changing filenames.

Mirrors also added!

Hey guys, I made this to represent xda when I boot :D

Thought I would share

The files attached can be flashed through bootloader.

Boot your phone into fastboot (hold vol up key while powering phone on, select fastboot)

Now open command. To verify your computer is recognizing your phone, type

fastboot devices

This should list your device. After that, you want to unzip the file you downloaded and place it in your android sdk tools folder.

Now, back in command, change to your tools directory and enter

fastboot flash splash1 splash.raw565

Remember to back up anything you don't wanna lose, and nandroid. Not responsible for anything that happens if you don't :D

That said I have flashed it and it works.. enjoy

Download black and white splash here: DOWNLOAD Mirror ~~> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=DD298CR4

Download color splash here: DOWNLOAD Mirror ~~> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9PQ2PZ3A
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] enragedpaza:
I like that, might just have to flash it. :D
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] barnacles10:
let me know what you think
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] enragedpaza:
says "cannot find splash.raw565"
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] barnacles10:
Are you booted in fastboot? Did you put the raw file into your sdk folder?

If not maybe it needs the original raw file in there too.. I didn't think it should tho. If you wanna try I have attached it. You could try dropping that in tools too and running the same command. Even though thats not the file its looking for.. so it leads me to believe one of previous should fix it
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] trentlythp:
It looks awesome. I think I will leave that one on there for a while. Well at least a couple of days :)

I flashed mine a little differently though. I changed the name of the file to evosplash1.rgb565 and ran

It worked great. Im not sure if your command accomplishes the same thing though (noobness talking) :confused:

Edit - Forgot to say thanks!
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] jwhitney83:
Love it man! The second I saw it, I HAD to flash it!

Thank You
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] kpkimmel:
says cannot load the file..not sure what i'm doing, my sdk tools is on my desktop do i need to cd to it or what.

EDIT: nevermind, sometimes i'm so stupid
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] M@XLOL:
Looks great :D

I have a desaturated theme going on so the orangish color won't work. Might use it in the future... unless you want to make a black/white version <3
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] jwhitney83:
put the "splash.raw565" in your tools folder

boot phone into fast boot

cd desktoplocation/androidsdk/tools

fastboot flash splash1 splash.raw565
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] barnacles10:
This should be it.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] M@XLOL:
Flashing now thanks brah
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] barnacles10:
Thanks everyone. Glad you all like it.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] barnacles10:
I think I figured out your problem. I forgot I changed the names of these files before zipping them so you will need to change them to splash and then run the command. I've added new versions anyway with the correct file names so you can try those too.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] iammuze:
your server bombed out, looks like you hit your bandwidth cap. mirror?
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] barnacles10:
Yeah ill be home from work soon and ill post up some mirrors
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] MrDSL:
Thank you for this..Looks great!
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] barnacles10:
Mirrors are up

thanks!
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] kpkimmel:
made a splash screen, saved as bmp, what do i need to do to make it a splash on my evo. thanks