yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S I9000 General] gllu:
It's quite possible that Vibrant will be cheaper than the galaxy s. That's a big feature for the Vibrant.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] larryccf:
not sure the point of the comparison when the galaxy S won't work on the Tmo network
[Galaxy S I9000 General] chaoscentral:
well it'll work, just edge only
[Galaxy S I9000 General] bl4ckdr4g00n:
Indeed, mine works. but I don't have chance to test the 3G
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] toyanucci:
I'm coming from using the desire rom and I find the news widget it has functional and useable. Its nice, customizable and scrollable. I use it to get updates from engadget and gizmodo, but coming to froyo I can't find anything even remotely comparable. I can't believe there's no simple clean 4x4 capable & scrollable widgets out there. I've searched and haven't found any so I'm asking if anyone here knows of any that's good and compatible with Froyo or even a way to use the HTC news widget outside of sense ui.

Thanks in advance.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] stonew5082:
you do realize, of course, that need you need a special home replacement to do scrollable widgets? Hmm? ADW or home++ blah blah. Anyway, the only ones that scroll are the pure messenger and pure calendar and a dumb bookmark one. Unless I'm missing one, anyone?

ps you're right that would be awesome, i'm surprised no one has started making more scrollable widgets for the new launchers. Francois Deslandes is the man, I guess.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] toyanucci:
Thanks for the reply, but does pure messenger do rss though?
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] stonew5082:
no rss. it does email, facebook, twitter and sms
[Epic 4G General] k2snowboards88:
I'm hoping for a thread to list all the release date rumors. If you read it on a web site, post a link to the article. If you heard it from someone, describe who told you.
[Epic 4G General] BrianFX:
I'm hoping we get an official release date announcement within a week, two tops. With t-mobile releasing on the 15th and at&t 3 days later, it would behoove Sprint quite a bit not to drag their heals on this release any longer than absolutely necessary. If this isn't on store shelves by mid-August, I'll be rather disappointed.

Verizon hasn't announced a release date for their SGS yet so I'll grant Sprint some leeway, but as soon as Verizon announces, Sprint had better not be far behind.
[Epic 4G General] k2snowboards88:
Me too. I really can't wait much longer (for practical reasons). If it doesn't have a release date by the time the droid 2 comes out, I'll probably have to get that instead.
[Epic 4G General] Sebrina:
So far the most accurate prediction I have read is that they will be released one after the other a week apart, so far that's been true with the first two handsets. First was released on the 11th followed by the 18th I'm guessing the 3rd on the 25th and the last on the 1st. As to which is released next I have no idea.
[Epic 4G General] chaoscentral:
Tmobile version launches the 15th not 11th, so thats 3 days apart for the tmo and att versions
[Epic 4G General] shep211:
I called sprint on friday and asked when the epic 4g was going to be released. The rep said that she did not know about this device. She did a search and she said it was in her system. I asked if there was a release date and she said there wasnt one in the system but she said once they are in the system they are released in a few weeks. I hope its released this month.
[Epic 4G General] Sebrina:
You're right I had the intercept date in my head :)
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
I made a list with all the release info on the Galaxy S series here and keep it up to date with newest information...

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=125524
[Epic 4G General] SiL3nTKiLL:
havent heard much :/
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
engadget said that it will be realeased b4 the end of the summer as for they guy that called sprint and they telling u its in the system and 3 week will be here that would be sweet!

im definitly getting this this is the first phone with all the specs are amazing i am a little jelous that at&t gets 16gb internnal memory but oh well.

cant wait to replace my tp2 with this beast :)
[Epic 4G General] bolo23:
July 24th???

We have the Captivate on July 15th, now we have the Fascinate on the 18th, T-mobile's Vibrant is supposed to be the 21st. With this 3 day pattern, dare I assume the Epic will be out on the 24th? I hope I am wrong and it's earlier, but the 24th would be better than August!
[Epic 4G General] richse:
I think you are a little mixed up. The Vibrant is the 15th, the Captivate is the 18th and I don't think the Fascinate or Epic 4G have any release date set.
[Epic 4G General] orateam:
Analysis of the Samsung phones

I broke down each phone myself with pro's and cons including the carrier.

I have a formatted file, but unfortunately forum rules seem to forbid html, so here is my text conversion.

=-=-=-=-Tmobile Vibrant:=-=-=-=-=

PROS

----

-1st to release (15th?)

-Cheapest to possibly own. Buy the contract phone for $199, opt out, pay the ETF for $200. For $200 more than contract you'll have it out right and can join Tmobile's contract free plan for $59 (all inclusive). For Highest use of data and text, this is the plan to get.

-built in memory for storage of 16GIG

-High speed internet capable (4G speeds)

-ETF of just $200

CONS

----

-no flash camera

-no front camera

=-=-=-=-ATT captivate:=-=-=-=-=

PROS

----

-ATT plan is most flexible. Can pick and choose from $15 data plan if necessary. $5 text for 200 msgs if you don't use that alot. If high street use is not critical, brings costs equal to tmobile or even the cheapest overall if you have a corporate discount which ATT regularly gives.

-same hardware pros and cons as tmobile vibrant version

CONS

-----

--Same negatives as Tmobile.

--can be expensive if highest use is needed.

--ATT network is pretty bad. been an iphone customer for years and it does suck.

--ETF of $325

=-=-=-=-Verizon Fascinate:=-=-=-=-=

PROS

----

-Network typically has high corporate discounts (i have %25 off). with discounts can become one of the cheaper plans.

-Best network overall in quality of calls.

-Hardware : Has flash camera, 1 gig more internal storage than similar EPIC.

-No keyboard can be a positive is size and weight is an issue.

CONS

-----

-Verizon plan can be the most expensive

-Droid X possibly has better hardware. It has equal video and most likely faster TI processor. Bigger screen too if you liked the EVO.

If i was choosing Verizion, i'd choose the Droid X anyday. See my next post.

-Family plans suck.

-ETF of $350 (premium phone)

=-=-=-=-Sprint EPIC:=-=-=-=-=

PROS

----

-Sprint typically has corporate discounts (25% here)

-EPIC is the most feature rich of the samsung family.

-Keyboard

-Sprint plans usually include Sprint TV, which is nice.

-ETF of $200

-best family plans in costs, if you want all smartphones.

-Very fast data from what i can tell on my EVO. But i came from ATT.

-30 guarantee

CONS

-----

-if you don't have a discount, plans will be the most expensive. Sprint will charge $10 a month for having a 4G phone even if you don't live in 4G area.

-Sprint coverage is so-so in many cities

-Big phone, thick and heavier than the rest.

-smallest amount of built in storage (1 GIG)
[Epic 4G General] orateam:
i wanted to add:

Ii talked to the sprint guys Sunday and was assured that while they couldn't tell me the release date, they did know it and can only say it would be in July.

also, wanted to post these images. The last column is closest to what the Droid X will have (3630 not the 4440). if anyone has updated stats on the 3630, please post.

Image not seen in some cases, so click here.

http://alienbabeltech.com/main/?p=17125&cpage=2#comment-26607

and click on image of popular SOC's of modern phones.

This is another image i found while reseaching droid x (motorola shadow) vs. the samsungs.

It looks like a quantrant test where the shadow was listed and running faster than any galaxy known. I'm no expert on this test, but it looks impressive. conclusions from this test were :

Shadow (verizon droid X) is running Android 2.1, and outscores Galaxy S and Nexus One with Android 2.1 which would make the Motorola Shadow the fastest device with Android 2.2.
[Epic 4G General] Sebrina:
Not exactly fair but ok, out of those phones in the picture you're saying the top phone is the Shadow followed by the Galaxy S? I'm only counting 2.1 phones since the Nexus One I have no doubt would win with 2.2 and JIT, but that's pretty nice to hear, and if that July rumor holds up all I can say is woohoo!
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
It is still hard to say which will be "best"...What makes the Galaxy S impressive is its GPU...the above pretty much shows how well the devices do without the GPU and only the CPU..so it means that the Shadow has a more powerful CPU in terms of number crunching...or the CPU is efficient for the kind of test....

From what I am reading the 1ghz OMAP that is in the Droid X is 20million polygons..so once 2.2 comes to both devices..my guess is the galaxy S would gain the most benefit and win out in the end.
[Epic 4G General] shep211:
I am for sure going to add a epic to my collection but I wanted to post this so you can see that the evo is a good phone. HTC just screwed up big time. I hit this score even with the fps cap. I have a fps hack but I only get 40 fps. My n1 gets 60+ with same hardware.
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
This is for 2.1 or 2.2 EVO?
[Epic 4G General] orateam:
if it was 2.1, it would make it faster than next gen phones like the Sammy's and DroidX, which is unlikely.
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
Ok I think I know why the Shadow does so well..if I remember correctly the DroidX uses a DSP to help it process certain types of graphics...it is possible the DSP is working properly even in 2.1 whereas the other phones do not have their GPU acceleration till Froyo...

This would explain the above numbers..
[Epic 4G General] INeedYourHelp:
First, the droid x does NOT have a better gpu. There are several game benchmarks that are available on the web, but here's just one.

http://www.androidcentral.com/att-samsung-captivate-benchmarks-and-graphicsgaming-test

(samsung captivate = epic 4g without keybaord, flash)

Second, that benchmark score is outdated, here's some new ones :)
[Epic 4G General] blazewit:
the reason the shadow beats the galaxy s is because it has 3x the i/o score wich is caused by a reporting glitch in quadrant...all the other benchmark programs have the galaxy s on top...the cpus are similar but the galaxy's gpu pushes it over the top on the droid x
[Epic 4G General] hydralisk:
Quadrant is a terrible benchmark. I can make my EVO kill all other scores with FROYO + 1.2 Ghz overclock... doesn't mean my EVO is REMOTELY fast...
[Epic 4G General] ben7337:
I don't think anyone posted this yet, but as everyone may know, we keep hearing that the phone will be out before the end of summer at the very least, and this still seems to be true, on their twitter page there are these 3 posts. 2 of them I got from androidforums, and another I took from their page directly because I assume it is referring to the 4 main USA Galaxy S devices (sorry US Cellular). Sadly I can't link to the twitter page yet as a new member, but just go to twitter and search for samsungmobileus.

@mpgehrisch we are working to get the Sprint Samsung Epic 4G launch date. thx for your patience. #GalaxyS 9:56 AM Jul 16th via TweetDeck in reply to mpgehrisch

@aztimmay no actual date on 2.2 upgrade for the Galaxy S. we are just rolling out all 4 devices this summer. #GalaxyS

1:52 PM Jul 16th via TweetDeck in reply to aztimmay

@GioTech if you are on Sprint, make sure you pick up the Sprint Samsung Epic 4G. no launch date/price but it's coming out this summer. 4:29 PM Jul 16th via HootSuite in reply to GioTech
[Epic 4G General] orateam:
guy at sprint store said in 2-3 weeks there will be an announcement with the release date. The release would be 2-3 weeks after the announcement. He predicts late August likely but could push to September. Need to get Nascar loaded on that EPIC :)
[Epic 4G General] violinbf:
I've heard august 8...but what do I know?
[Epic 4G General] Darrien13:
i hope its soon I need to leave T-mobile
[Epic 4G General] MameJunkie:
...and me gAyT&T
[Epic 4G General] USAF22:
Possible Release

My Google News alert gave me another link that actually was talking about the Epic and not something else entirely, and the article, from a site called Phone News, reports that with the FCC clearance it will be released next month. Not really much detail, but FWIW: http://www.phonenews.com/samsung-epic-4g-approved-by-fcc-11885/
[Epic 4G General] itsmebryan:
I spoke to a guy at the sprint store that seemed to be pretty well informed. He said that that they had just turned in the forms to get a pre release Epic. He said they get phones about a month before they come out to the public. So they can be more informed to sell them. He said the Epic may not be out till oct or nov. The earliest September. That is a long time to wait When I really need a new phone. I'm always dropping calls in LA. I hope sprint has better coverage than AT&T.
[Epic 4G General] MameJunkie:
Everybody seems to know somebody that knows the date...but how come the date varies from late July to Nov? Hope the July/Aug is the correct one.
[Epic 4G General] ben7337:
Well we should know soon enough. I've heard July 28th, August 6th, August 11th, August 28th, and not til sometime in Sept/Oct. Luckily the July 28th one would mean a release in less than 7 days, and the August 6th date comes with an announcement tomorrow for that being the release date. The August 11th one comes from radio shack and we should have confirmation if they are getting dummy phones or not today or tomorrow. Therefore we know if the phone is likely to be released in the first half of august, within the next few days.

I'm putting my money on the 6th because even though the sources are anonymous, it has 2 people saying it, plus Samsung tweeted something that sounded like a hint that they are making an announcement tomorrow.
[Epic 4G General] csolarz31:
has anyone upgraded recently? notice on the current rebate form that it ends 9/11 and there is no mention of the Epic on that? Wouldn't that mean a 9/12 launch?
[Epic 4G General] ben7337:
Could you please show a link to this rebate form? I have heard people saying things about new rebates coming out all the time even before others end, like the evo 4g got one when another was active or something. However the form you are mentioning could be different. I will say that just because the epic isn't included in the form doesn't mean they can't add it.
[Epic 4G General] Loco5150:
This looks soooo good... Is this going to be released in Europe at all? Touch Pro 2 is so gone when I get this...
[Epic 4G General] csolarz31:
sprint.com/rebates.....im too fresh to post the link! haha
[Epic 4G General] ben7337:
Okay, now I see the form. I was going to ask when it was released because it has the Intercept which I believe was released on like the 11th or July or something. However I found this on the bottom of one of the pages

"Have a new phone that’s not on the list? Check the price tag in-store, ask a sales rep or visit

www.sprintrebates.com to check eligibility. If eligible, just fill out this form and send it in."

Therefore I think they can add phones and that list isn't all inclusive.
[Epic 4G General] Porcelain_Frog:
Educated Guess based on EVO

I would put my money on your assumption that it will be August. Here is my reasoning: The EVO got FCC approval on May 8th and was released on June 4th. My sometimes logical brain says "It took the EVO 1 month from the time of FCC approval to launch. Therefore the Epic just got FCC approval on July 20th it should have an approximate waiting time. So Epic FCC approval on July 20th = August (2nd or 3rd week?). After all, they have to put the FCC stickers on all of them! Its the law and that can't be done overnight! Just my 2 cents. :p I"m hope I'm wrong and it's a much earlier launch!
[Epic 4G General] ben7337:
Could the manufacture the cell phones with the stickers on them and just not release them until the phone is officially passed by the FCC? I mean someone said the phone was originally put in on June 23rd to the FCC, according to a confidentiality agreement paper or something. It could have been given the go ahead a while in advance. The Captivate people keep saying came out like a week before it was released.

However someone who works for Sprint who is expecting their pre release Epic still hasn't gotten it yet, so we are looking at, at least another 3-5 weeks before the phone is released. Given this, I think it is very safe to say it will come out sometime in August. However when is a bit more up in the air. If there isn't a release date announced by monday I think it is safe to say it will come out in the 2nd-4th week of August, however this is still very vague. I just wish we could get a solid date already. I'm getting really sick of watching and waiting.
[Epic 4G General] Porcelain_Frog:
Very well stated. A lot of what I said was "tongue in cheek" but still based on history (which tends to repeat itself). You are absolutely right in saying that the stickers (which must be permanently attached) have already been put on the devices and are awaiting "official" release. I can't imagine a bunch of "sticker putter on-ers" scrambling at the last minute to affix stickers and box up the units for release. ;) Either way I agree with you and think we are looking at an August release date. I just wish we would get an "official" announcement. I too am getting sick of the anticipation. I'm ready to play with this one!
[Epic 4G General] entropism:
The EVO was released before a rebate form was printed for it as well. Definitely not something to use as a reference point.
[Epic 4G General] csolarz31:
noted...but now that there is reason to believe otherwise, and sooner nonetheless, I'm happy with that
[Epic 4G General] badblowntie:
I heard the samething! august 8th release from sprint sales this morning!
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
If this pre-order thing doesnt go through. Would be nice if this was the date.

But if the pre-order thing is right then this is wrong.
[Epic 4G General] ScientificOne:
Why would they release the phone on a Sunday?
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
Actually sunday is there usual release dates for some reason >.>..intercept was july 11th and i1 was july 25th..all sundays...don't ask me how sprint thinks...
[Epic 4G General] entropism:
Sunday IS the usual release date for Sprint, other than the big releases, which hit on Fridays. However, I'm getting a prerelease version of the Epic and it still haven't arrived yet. Usually, I get those about 30 days before release, but it can vary a bit. The Evo came in 2.5 weeks before release, the Treo Pro came in 3 months before release, and the Pre was about a month and a half before release.
[Epic 4G General] blakehess11:
Yeah, that's not great news. This is totally just hopeful speculation, but maybe they aren't giving Sprint employees the early ones very early because the Galaxy S hardware has already been "tested" in the form of the Captivate and Vibrant? As impossible as an August 8th release seems, I really, really hope so because that's when I'm eligible for upgrade.
[Epic 4G General] ForrelZ:
It's official Aug 11th

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010...hing-august-11th-sprint-stores-to-open-early/

Get your credit cards out.
[Epic 4G General] Andy S:
That's far from "official". :)
[Epic 4G General] ForrelZ:
Well BGR isn't exactly Sprint agreed but it's more reliable than any anon inside source, plus they do check their sources before posting and it pretty much falls in line with the Aug 11th rumors about the new playbook, my money is on this will in fact happen.
[Epic 4G General] dever76:
I sure hope BGR is correct. It's been a long wait since returning my Evo and using a LG VX-9400 for more than a month.

How is BGR's track record for predicting

Sprint

release dates?
[Epic 4G General] fooo1:
The only question now is wait till Oct 1st for SERO allowing Android phones or preorder today.:)

www howardforums com/showthread.php/1660402-On-October-1st-Android-will-be-available-for-SERO!!!
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
There is option #2..wait till Sept 1st-3rd, get a new plan, then do the 30 day thing to return it and get it for your Sero >.> *whistle*
[Epic 4G General] LiberatorUSA:
I read that post but it makes little sense to me since on the SERO website you can get the EVO which is an Android phone,... sooooo....

I was hoping maybe that Oct 1st date is just for upgrades? New lines can get an Android phone already?
[Epic 4G General] fooo1:
You can order it but it won't work with your plan.:) It'll come non-activated and then when you call in to activate you get hosed, from what I understand.
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
The current SERO website is not SERO...its the EDRP...If you have a SERO, you can order the phone but you will nto be able to activate it atm
[Epic 4G General] LiberatorUSA:
Its still considerable cheaper then the regular plans if I login with the friend credentials. So can I then assume that the EDRP has no Oct. 1st restriction and will be offering the phones the same date as the public website?
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
There is no restriction on phones..but no guarantee that it will be available day 1..
[Epic 4G General] dthunder137:
I am going to vote that the August 11th release date is fake, as sad as I am to say it I don't think it will be out until early September.

First- I spoke with an in store rep on the 3rd, I saw an Epic poster up and asked him about the release date. He said it was still TBA, he wasn't even supposed to have that poster which had "coming soon" on it up until the 8th.

Second- I followed the link on the Galaxy facebook page that had a picture of the ad. If that was the actual flier it is completely fake, if you look at the bottom you can clearly see that it is from June's addition. If they just threw it up there for looks I will gladly admit I am wrong.

Third- I am on both Sprint and Samsungs email list to "know first" and have not received anything from either.

Fourth- I looked up Augusts Premiere Members flyer and it says "coming soon"

I also called sprint today, for an inquiry about my account and she hadn't heard of the phone and it was still listed as "coming soon"

Just figured I would share this with you all
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
It is not fake..the day may have just changed..read the other thread..
[Epic 4G General] dthunder137:
The one I saw was fake, the one you're talking about I looked at after.
[Epic 4G General] brandor:
Sprint Epic 4G Release EARLY?

According to Engadget Sprint has bumped the release date of the Epic4G to the 12th. who knows?
[Epic 4G General] Sebrina:
Link? Engadget has no mention of the Epic today that I see.
[Epic 4G General] nc2nc2:
I speculate that the 20th was the original date. Yet, competitiveness drove sprint and samsung to push for the 11th; so as to beat the torch and possibly the droid 2 to the market. Their endeavors were most likely spoiled when a software glitch of some sort was found. Now, they are frantically fixing the issue and may soft launch the phone on the 11th if said glitch is repaired, or can be made available via update a short time after (much like the evo). The 20th, is a solid release date, and allows Sammy and Sprint to submit the software fix to manufacturing. This is purely conjecture and my outright lust for this phone has driven my imagination to draw such a conclusion.

Again is total BS that I am spewing.

Give me a release date Sprint, or you may soon lose a customer you never had.

Okay, Im done trolling :o).
[Epic 4G General] mattism78:
can't post the link because I'm a newb:p

Well now Sprint has a sweepstakes involving the phone so hopefully it will be out by the premier date of the movie.
[Epic 4G General] fooo1:
Yes you can. Just remove the http:/ stuff. What sweepstakes?
[Epic 4G General] mattism78:
sweepstakes.sprint.com/goingthedistance/
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
If they include a copy of that movie instead of say Avatar on the Epic 4g..I will cry...