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[Captivate General] madjsp:
Thanks! I just sent a tweet at them to see about the whole 500 vs 350 pricing.
[Captivate General] SlimJ87D:
Please update us!
[Captivate General] madjsp:
I will. If you see @madjsp as a tweet, it is in response to what I said. I also tweeted to @attcustomercare about it as well, so we'll see who responds first.
[Captivate General] TexUs:
Here's an update here... ATT messaged me about asking what store I bought it from at $299.

Of course I won't rat the store out, but it's looking like the $299 thing was a pricing mistake (that I was lucky enough to get on, for once in my life!).

The $349 price, as we all know, seemed too good to be true, too, so the fact that everyone as of late has been quoting $499 seems to make it a fact that this was a HUGE ATT screwup on this pricing, and that the actual cost will be $499.

Now, I hope that's not true, but it appears so.
[Captivate General] SlimJ87D:
Wow... that freakin sucks real bad. Wish I had the opportunity to get it for $350.
[Captivate General] systoxity:
you're gonna miss your fuze. Bleh. i cant stand this thing.
[Captivate General] kletiz:
Just got mine and I looooooooooove it!
[Captivate General] systoxity:
kletiz how much did you pay? Seems like there is some price discrimination going on.
[Captivate General] FIREONHIGH:
the att guy on att face book page said this a few mins.ago AT&T

Hey Tj, we just confirmed the price with the product manager. The latest pricing for the Captivate is $199 with 2 year agreement. The non-commitment price is $499.

4 minutes ago · Flag,,,,,,for what ever thats worth:confused:
[Captivate General] systoxity:
yeah i just saw that, very disturbing. The thing to do if you havnt gotten yours off contract yet is to find proof of them advertising it at 350 (ex: tweets etc) and head to your local store and twist their arm for one at 350.
[Captivate General] kennonk:
it was practically in my hands

I had the guy bring a Captivate box out from the back and start to punch in my account info into the computer when the woman next to him said "Uhh those don't go on sale until Sunday" And the guy said "Oh, sorry I could lose my job if I sell it early" and he told me he would hold it for me... So close...
[Captivate General] systoxity:
tell them to check their email lol.
[Captivate General] sansart:
I wonder how this works legally... they advertised one price and selling it for another? I'm nervous about my chances of getting it for 350
[Captivate General] matthewpapa:
Youve just got to find someone dumb enough to do it. Id try later in the day after they change shifts

I would be really suprised if the no-commitment price turns out to be $500. Id say it would be $450 tops.

I got mine for $350, but I guess it is possible there was a mistake in their transaction. ATT is more of a bureaucracy than most companies. The fact they sold it to me 5 days before they were supposed to says enough. And it wouldnt suprise me at all if it was different prices at different stores.

It has happened to me before: when I was buying my tilt2 a year ago I called around and some stores had it for (w/o contract) $350 with 50$ MIR and others had it for $250 with $50 MIR.
[Captivate General] wtafro:
Got mine for $199 with 2 year agreement. I went in to at&t on Tuesday and got to look at the phone and they put me on a list to call when it was available. they called me last night, but couldn't make the trip so I went in this morning and got it. Been waiting for a good Android phone on at&t for a while.
[Captivate General] McCarron:
My guess is that the system is currently showing $350 still for people who wind up getting it early, but AT&T is likely updating to the new fixed price of $499. Those who got it early will be very lucky.

The stores near me in the NW Burbs of Chicago all have stock now, but wont sell early. So I'm out of luck in that realm, but don't want to bring up pricing until the register rings up the wrong price.
[Captivate General] TexUs:
Yea, it's officially $499 now.
[Captivate General] nkrick:
That is standard policy for AT&T for 18-23 months into a contract that costs $99 or more per month. Check out the different breakdowns here: http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/why/upgrade-advantage.jsp

If you wait until 24 months on a $99 contract you get an extra $100 off.
[Captivate General] SlimJ87D:
It's so stupid because the Vibrant's box looks way better and comes with a MicroSD card.

The captivate should at least be $450...
[Captivate General] systoxity:
man i pay close to 180 dollas a month for family plan and thats with my student discount. My upgrade comes in on the 18th, is there anyway i can fanangle some savings out of that. I pay out the ass for this service. Thank god for fasfa.
[Captivate General] SlimJ87D:
Your best bet is getting rid of unlimited SMS, and use Google voice for text messaging. You can save 20 to 30 a month depending on your SMS.

I plan on following through with this plan, screw unlimited SMS when there is free SMS through the Google Voice application.
[Captivate General] stong98:
No luck in Sacramento

Just tried my local store (Natomas)and not only did he tell me they dont have them yet, but he told me I wouldnt like it anyway. He said it is slow, and recommended the Aria over the Captivate. I tried to get him to prove it to me and he went back to get the demo only to come back empty handed telling me he can't show it until Sunday. I'm sure by sunday the pricing will all be fixed and I'll have missed out on the $350 steal.
[Captivate General] systoxity:
dont give up, try another store. also check the forum here for the post on it being confirmed at 499, a member pieced together a great deal of advertising they did stating it would be sold for 350. Print it out and bring it with you to the next store. Ofc use common sense and dont harass them or bring out the paper till they try to force a 500 dolla bill on ya.
[Captivate General] junknuts:
I called all the corporate stores above midtown in NYC - and even visited one - and all of them said it was coming out on the 18th.

Edit: ...to clarify, none would sell to me.
[Captivate General] mykenyc:
The one on 125th i talked to the rep and he said they don't have the stock yet, so i said hypothetically your get it tomorrow would i be able to buy it, he said yes.
[Captivate General] hobbbbit:
I checked two corporate stores in Boston area, and both of them had phone in stock but refused to sell it. Called in the rest of the stores and all of them said that they don't have it yet (sure they don't). Too bad. I'm almost 100% sure what happened is somebody entered a $350 into the system as a non-commitment price just as soon as AT&T signed the contract with Samsung. That's why they posted that price on Facebook and Tweeter. Now just before the release they corrected the price to $499, and it looks like not all the billing systems updated yet, so if you could buy the phone today, you'll pay 350, but Sunday you'll have to pay full $500 for it:-(

$350 looked too good to be true anyways...
[Captivate General] YeaItsSlo:
i went to over 10 local stores, all of them but 2 being corporate stores and not a single one would even let me see the phone.. one rep called some manager and the manager said do not give out any info about the phone yet.. so now i'll have to wait till sunday :(
[Captivate General] systoxity:
i bet they all have their panties in a knot because of the 350 price "error"
[Captivate General] ltxfreak4:
i got mine today and a buddy got his non contract at 350
[Captivate General] dsjr2006:
A Facebook or Twitter message is not an advertisement, but you may be able to convince a store manager otherwise.
[Captivate General] Clienterror:
No luck in the Chicago burbs getting it early. I did go into a store that my Ex GF works in (Thank God it ended on good terms) and she let me play with the demo unit and put my name on one so I get it first thing Sunday. She also said they had about 11 or so.
[Captivate General] bjabah:
No luck in KY

First of all, Hi, I'm happy to be here and this is my first post.

My AT&T store has one in hand, but won't sell it to me. To make matters worse they are not open on Sunday!!! So no Captivate for me until Monday....

I had the urge to buy something so I got:

a leather case

Two 1500mah batts and a spare charger

a windshield mount that can also clip to vents

and an FM transmitter

all for less than $40. (see attached pic).

bja
[Captivate General] systoxity:
lol u crzy man. get a gel case
[Captivate General] tbae2:
Ah only 11 hopefully my local ATT corp store has more then that. I'm still having trouble gauging interest in this phone and how many people will actually be at the store buying one. Also how early I should show up seeing the store opens at 12 :p. That being said the store rep would only let on that the phone would be in stock on sunday (i'm sure they have them already). :mad:
[Android Apps and Games] Dheano:
I am considering creating a widget for any Android phone (incl. 1.0, maybe from 1.5 up, I'm unsure atm) that sends a text to 20202 and then feeds back with the answer.

For O2 users on PAYG (and possibly contract), if you wish to see your Minutes, Data and Texts allowance, you can send a text with any message (I usually put Balance, just incase!) to 20202 and they will reply with your remainding Minutes, MB and Texts.

I was thinking - a simple widget on the homepage, works just like CheckBalance (which calls your provider's balance checker - for example, if you were on O2, it would call *#10# and your balance would appear on the screen (mine's usually £0.01 hah)) and even APNdroid - you would click the widget and it would send that text to 20202 and then grab the texts and even possibly delete that text-thread, so your threads will only have your friends or whatever in the threadslist.

I'm looking into it and I wanted to know if anyone thought this would be a good idea? If it works and there are numbers for other providers, I would happily make the app for ALL providers (starting with the UK and then going Global).

So, would this be a good app and would you use it?
[Android Apps and Games] ronniecross:
As another O2 UK user, I've been hoping something like this would come along for a long time, so yes, this is a good idea in my books :)
[Android Apps and Games] Pdauser92:
+1

I've been waiting for something like this.
[Android Apps and Games] ddotpatel:
Yes please! Another O2 customer here who would love something like that.
[Android Apps and Games] PaulK_CMF:
With the disgraceful level of support O2 are giving the Android I have no doubt that at some point they will join here to ask you to do it for them too.

My HTC desire may well end up back in their store since it refuses to do MMS for some reason.
[Android Apps and Games] Dheano:
I have looked into the source code and HelloWorld tuts on the Android site and I can see this taking a long time for me to understand this crap. I've looked at App Inventor but like everyone else, I haven't had a response.

I also wish to ask anyone if they could help with this? I've asked Martin Adamek (creator of APNdroid) because APNdroid is so similar to what this app would be like. I've looked at his source and I can't understand it! APNdroid is a widget which then does something and this would be a widget that does something too.

I've also asked the creator of CheckBalance as that is much closer than APNdroid, but his source hasn't been shared/released. CheckBalance, of course, dials the number to check your balance (O2 = *#10#) and it tells you in the press of one button, which is very similar to sending a text and getting the feedback.

I'm still looking into this and ANY help will be appreciated.

At first, I will only be doing this for O2 but I will DEFINITELY include other providers, if/when this gets going! :)
[EVO 4G General] kaotikevo:
I bought the EVO 4G in the 25th of June and got my first bill today. I was charged $152.53, which seems very high based on the plan and services i signed up for when i bought my phone. Im on the everything data plan for 69.99, with the $10 add-on for 4g, $7 for insurance, and$ 4.99 for the spending limit program. That totals $91.98 plus i get a 10% discount. I called to ask why my bill is so high and the customer service rep told me because i was charged for the period of june 13 - july 13 and also prorated charges from june 25th - july 13. I understand the prorated charges, but is it normal for sprint to charge you a whole month in addition to your actual usage in advance? I didn't even own the phone on the 13th of june. I feel ripped off
[EVO 4G General] jonathaflores:
yes usually your first bill its always a lil weird, but after that everything should be good!!!
[EVO 4G General] Misty Blue:
I got my phone on the 28th of June, have the same plan as you, and was charged around $150. I was charged for the previous month and the activation charge. I'm a little put-off by Sprint at this point. One thing I appreciated about T-Mobile was their excellent customer service. I was never hit with these outrageous charges before. Not to mention Sprint says it will be at least 2 months before my government discount kicks in.
[EVO 4G General] Tundricles:
My bill is still around $99 after fees and taxes

Previous Balance................................................................................ $143.15

Jun 10 ERROR - SETUP ISSUE......................................................... -$41.23

Jun 23 Premium Services................................................................. -$2.68

Payment on Jul 07.............................................................................. -$25.00

New Charges..................................................................................... $96.36

Total Due $170.60

Previous Balance	$143.15

Jun 10 ERROR - SETUP ISSUE	-$41.23

Jun 23 Premium Services	-$2.68

Payment on Jul 07	-$25.00

New Charges

Everything Data - 450 Anytime Minutes Included	$69.99

Employee Discount Sprint 10%	-$7.00

Premium Data	$10.00

Total Equipment Protection - $3 insurance premium & $4 service/repair	$7.00

3 Long Distance & Ten-Digit International Toll	$1.47

Sprint: CallTones - Pursuit Of Happiness -06/08	$2.50

Late Payment	$3.66

Sprint Surcharges	$4.32

Sprint Surcharges are rates we choose to collect from you to help defray costs imposed on us. Surcharges are not taxes on you or amounts we are required to collect from you by law. Surcharges other charges incurred to recover costs associated with governmental programs, and certain taxes imposed upon Sprint. The amounts, and the components used to calculate Surcharge amounts, are subject to change.

Federal-Univ Serv Assess LD	$0.20

Federal-Univ Serv Assess Non-LD	$1.19

State-Univ Serv Assessment	$0.07

City-Gross Receipts Tax	$1.47

Administrative Charge	$0.99

Regulatory Charge	$0.40

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$4.32

Government Fees & Taxes	$4.42

Taxes and fees Sprint is required to collect from customers on behalf of the government.

State-911 Tax	$0.08

State-Poison Control Charge	$0.07

State-Sales Tax	$2.51

County-Sales Tax	$0.32

City-911 Tax	$0.61

City-Sales Tax	$0.83

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$4.42
[EVO 4G General] bwcorvus:
What is happening is you have to pay a month in advance, i think all cell phone companies do that now. So you have the pro-rated month, plus the next full month in your first bill. Then any activation fees, plus as said the discounts take up to 2 months for them to kick in.
[EVO 4G General] EliWay:
Simply all carriers do that. They bill you in advance. T-mobile does that, AT&T does that, Verizon does that. Also remember it's almost $40 just for the activation fee. Your next month's bill will look better.
[EVO 4G General] jblazea50:
yeah they charge one month in advance, which is normal for all carriers; however, the thing that irritated me was the prorated charge; why not just start the billing cycle for whenever the line was activated; luckily i ordered mine on June 9th and it the billing cycle started on June 12 or 13; they still charged me like $19 in prorated amount, which i got them to credit me once i found out that they started charging me even though i did not have the lines activated; i ordered through their website on the 9th and didn't activate the phones until June 12th, when i received the phones; however, they started charging me from June 9th, even though no phones were activated or anything
[EVO 4G General] mrono:
I did a lovely contract transfer a year ago, no start-up fee's just started paying the monthly. my bill was a little wonky the first month from the evo but it's normal again.
[EVO 4G General] jblazea50:
Just received the 2nd month bill. 4 lines (2 Evos & 2 Blackberries) 1500 minutes and it comes to $170.

Anyway, Sprint is not trying to give me the Save50 promo credit. The chat agent said they have no record of it. But I have screen capture that shows a total of $200 credit ($50 credit per line). I am already hating dealing with Sprint so many times.
[EVO 4G General] kaotikevo:
I'm having second thoughts about my switch to Sprint. To me nothing can justify having to pay what's essentially twice in a month. A full month for a period starting at a date I didn't even own the phone, and then a prorated charge. That's a huge disappointment for me. I already dislike the way business is conducted at Sprint. Thankfully I have until the 25th under the 30 day guarantee. The EVO is a great phone, but the 30fps cap and horrible lag in addition to the bill are making me lean towards leaving Sprint
[EVO 4G General] Petronic:
No, that's not how it works.

You pay a prorated charge for the period from the date of activation until the start of the next billing cycle.

After that, you pay the next billing cycle in advance. It's a one-time thing and it's quite reasonable, logical and easily justified. If you're somehow being charged something different you've got a customer service issue that needs to be remedied. I anticipate that you don't, though.
[EVO 4G General] redrazr7791:
You get charged a prorated amount the first bill. That is why you always discuss what will be on the first bill with customer service.

Now that you know...sit back, relax and enjoy the Sprint party ;)

If you decide to leave however, please don't start another "I hate Sprint because..."thread. To many people have started those already and the funny thing is, the majority of the time it is their own-doing!
[EVO 4G General] Hrshycro:
Yeah, the first bill is prorated from the time you sign up, until the monthly billing date, then you pay the coming month's fees. It's a little bit strange, but not bad. Basically, you're always paying for the next month of service, not the last month of service.
[EVO 4G General] vbyt:
go ahead and switch to tmobile, att, or verizon, and the same thing will happen to you...
[EVO 4G General] ortizdupri:
I'm rooted and running 53fps. I really wish people would stop bringing up the 30fps cap unless they're willing to do the research to fix it (with or without HTC's help).

And the horrible lag? Are you referring to the screen lag, i.e. the fps issue?
[EVO 4G General] Darkolako:
i got my evo june 6 and my first bill was 135

second bill which i still have like 18 days to pay is 185! ><, but thats because i had to claim a "new" phone via asurion .. shattered screen ><

so im guessing my regular bills will be around 80 cuz i got charged 2 months of Total protection since i added it half month on july one for 5 one for 7.

ohh and i have discount around 20% i believe
[EVO 4G General] Misty Blue:
T-mobile does not do that. They might make you put extra money down if you have bad credit, but the first bill will be the right amount + activation. I was told my first bill would be prorated, something around $25 + activation, not $150. To me, that is a ludicrous amount to charge someone straight out without telling them that is about what they will be charged.
[EVO 4G General] vbyt:
i stand corrected with tmobile then. sprint told me 1023 times that my first bill would be prorated + next month so I knew what I was getting.
[EVO 4G General] rohitgarewal:
Yes its normal, but remember if/when you leave sprint you all ways gey money back because youve paid in advance.
[EVO 4G General] Sirchuk:
Their reps go over it with you in store and via phone. I'm surprised it came as such a shock, they should have gone over it.

I personally don't mind it, since it means when I do leave Sprint (eventually) I'll get money back for the remaining time I didn't use the service, rather than send them a final payment/bill, possible fake "late" charges, etc.
[EVO 4G General] ifly4vamerica:
For everybody complaining about Sprint that is your right, however if you don't like it please do leave. More bandwidth for the rest of us. No reason to stay if you don't like the way they charge you. I personally don't mind paying a month in advance, perks way outbalance the cons. kick butt phone, cheap unlimited service, ( I pay around 50/month after corp discount) sure CS can be a pain in the butt but they are usually pretty accomodating if you have a valid gripe. Of course if you are trying to get something for nothing, or can't pay your first bill after you agreed to a contract I can understand them being snotty, they have to deal with people all day long that think the world revolves around them and their cell phone service is a right. Newsflash, it is a SERVICE and guess what you gotta pay for it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] addcook:
I was recently recovering a touch pro from a friend that had raped i mean damaged, and while reconnecting the keyboard connection, i noticed that the lcd screen had a detachable ribbon cable connection. . I was hoping that I could connect a larger 7 inch touch screen to it and mount the whole phone in my car running android as a nav/media controller. Please let me know if this would be possible. I have searched on the google, but i dont know where to start. I am very amateur with electronics, so any advice would help.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bronk93:
I've flashed 2 different 2.2 roms (cyanogen and 1 other). In both cases my signal bars will go from 4, to 2, to 0, to 4 etc....its driving me crazy. I fastboot wiped in both cases and I didnt have this issue using any of the 2.1 roms. Any ideas? I also have the most up to date radio.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Binary100100:
sounds like you may have to re-flash your radio.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mejorguille:
I've noticed that too...
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] geokuttan:
yea i have that problem too..and sometimes i loose all bars and then no signal..then i have to flash the rom again in order to get any signal..
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Papichulo06:
Hi all,

I was trying to unroot my phone so I can send it back to Sprint as I'm doing an exchange and I think RUU messed up my phone.

I opened RUU_Supersonic_1.32.651.1_Radio_1.39.00.04.26_release_171253.exe to unroot my phone... my phone restarted and got the HTC loading screen. The ruu application on the computer then stopped then said something like "please get the correct ROM update utility & try again".

I tried rebooting the phone but it is stuck in a reboot loop at the HTC evo splash screen.

I can access recovery via bootloader. I have tried wiping and reloading the rom that I had on there (damagecontrol 3.2.3) but it still keeps on rebooting on the HTC evo splash screen.

Again, I do have fastboot and recovery access.

Any ideas?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Papichulo06:
[problem solved]

yea... try flashing a stock rom with root. that should fix your issue
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jerryparid:
Good to see that you solved your problem. Anyways, with access to bootloader, your phone is almost never bricked.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blix1337:
I had the exact same issue... the only thing that worked for me was to restore a nand backup of a pre OTA rom... in my case a fresh 0.3 backup.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dehelflix:
if you have the drivers installed and it errors out you just gotta re try the ruu.exe file while its on the htc screen

happened to me, and worked the second try perfectly.