yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G1 Android Development] MilkPudding:
It's mentioned in the instruction that do a complete wipe before going to CM6. You should always wipe everything, including dalvik cache, before flashing a new ROM. CM5 is eclair and CM6 is Froyo.

I've realized that most people with problems have not wiped their phone completely before upgrading.
[G1 Android Development] cloverdale:
I have tried all of those ROMs. Without hyperbole, this is the fastest I have ever used. Everything runs well, no lags, no slowing, no issues at all.

Just because you may not have sucess with this, do not disparage the input of others as having no merit.
[G1 Android Development] MilkPudding:
I'm just giving you a personal opinion here. If you don't like it, leave it.

Flame all you want. :D
[G1 Android Development] cloverdale:
I think this is correct. Until I wiped via fastboot, I had not noticed major improvement. A simple wipe via recovery will not suffice.
[G1 Android Development] firefly6240:
my reasons for picking this rom.

1. I usualy like to try the experimental roms even with them not being fully stable.

2. everything is setup just a bit nicer than eclair (such as the market having a tab for comments, auto re-downloading apps when you switch roms)

3. the keyboard works well for me and once the voice to text feature is stable, it will be nice to have too.

4. this is the future. 2.1 will be updated much less once a stable release comes out.

5. just a matter of personal preference :-)

first I would like to say that I do agree that eclair ran alot more stable on my phone.

but you really have to remember that this is not a stable release, its a release candidate, and so you really cant compare eclair and froyo yet as far as stability and speed goes until a stable release is reached.

this is really to give you a taste of what is to come, to test out new features and find bugs.

I stay with this rom mostly because all bugs aside, it really is stable enough to be a daily driver.

and it has all the froyo features to play with.

its not as stable as 5.0.8, but its really not meant to be :-)

most software goes through a series of release candidates before the final version.

it will get there.

lots of people are working hard at it :-)

so if your looking for a stable rom, at the moment there is no reason whatsoever to pick a froyo rom.

just wait till a stable release and then check it out.
[G1 Android Development] mr2t32:
you need to look for the swype apk file. I couldn't find it, but it's somewhere in XDA forum. It's the 1.56 beta which is working fine on my phone. The only thing that's not working is the backspace in terminal. I had to use the android keyboard whenever i use the terminal.

Also, i'm getting about the same battery life as you. I went from 100% unpluged from charger at 8:30am to ~68% at 11:11am. This is with wifi, bt, notification, and gps off. Compcache and JIT on. Animations off.
[G1 Android Development] studjuice:
It's true. this rom is the fastest. It just needs to be set up right. Although i'll admit the second fastest i've every used was probably supercsdi, which isn't too far behind. But come on... Fast Donut vs Fast Froyo? alliterations always win ;) that and it's way better OS wise
[G1 Android Development] _zygo_:
100 apps loaded...really?

98 applications. Really? You use 98 applications every day? Someone else just said they had over 100 apps, and I noticed someone actually brags in their signature that they have like 200 apps, and counting. I've had the MyTouch for a year and it is fully integrated into my workflow process for my primary job, which requires an Exchange app, and my second business, which requires extensive use of texting, Gmail, and Word document exchanges (rental properties.) I have ten apps and one, non-native widget. So 98 apps just boggles my mind, and I can't help thinking that trying to get those apps loaded, especially from backup, is what causes a bunch of these problems.

Besides the obvious, like maybe Handcent, some Facebook and Twitter apps, maybe some weather, sports, stock, and news-type widgets, and maybe some backup-type apps for application, settings, and SMS/comm backups, why on Earth would you need 98 applications loaded 24/7?

Let's use the app categories above, and to be really liberal, let's say that requires that you have 50 applications. Do you need those other 48 at your disposal? Isn't that what Market is for? If I need an app, I load up Market, install the app, use it, then uninstall it. I know Market appears to be a little borked right now (it's a RC, deal with it,) but your phone isn't a software repository. That's what market is for. I can see some of the G1 owners needing an APPS2SD solution, but if you aren't trying to load 100 apps, then there is no problem. Even on Edge, it takes like a minute to load an app.

If I am missing the point of having 100 apps loaded on your phone, other than having an application you might use once a month or twice a year (do you really need that Christmas Countdown app on your phone 365 days a year?,) at your immediate, instant-gratification disposal, then please let me know. Look, 20% is 10% twice, so is that tip-calculator app that necessary? haha.
[G1 Android Development] studjuice:
well they might be including the around 70 system apps that are included. IF you use titanium backup, it includes that in total count. i have 9 user apps and 73 system apps. so i could technically say "well i use 82 apps....)

but to add to your point. it's a pain redownloading apps from the market everytime you need them. that wouldn't work. but what WOULD work is to have the app, backed up in titanium back up. and when you need it, you restore it.
[G1 Android Development] slvrarrow:
im really struggling multitasking wise - i cant seem to get anything multitasking at all, ive tried 24mb swap, compcache, swap+compcache, no jit etc. and still get naff all multitasking - the AOSP did far better for some reason

Ive also tried dumfuqs kernal
[G1 Android Development] studjuice:
use 32mb swap, no compache, (jit if you want, that doesn't really affect multitasking that affects the speed of large apps), turn the VM heap size to 12. If you don't mind me recommending, try out my test it has swap set up for you so long as you have swap on p3, among other things..

and what do you define as multitasking? it may help to put the launcher to system persistent (if you haven't tried that). that's not exactly multitasking, but it's speeding up the inbetweens, which speeds up you getting what you need to done.
[G1 Android Development] G1ForFun:
Lol...really? Wow. I guess the Froyo band wagon is strong. I guess my input is meaningless and your isnt. You win DOCTOR cloverdale.

Yep the issue that nobody wants to admit....And what is the point of Android? What made it what it is today? What was there flagship model? IT WAS ALL ABOUT MULTITASKING. This rom is incapable...and so are most of the eclairs...

Just a general statement to everyone...

...your SUPPOSED to give opinions, not put others down.

And when you give an opinion it helps to list a lot more information than just "This rom is blazing fast OMG!" or "This is the fastest rom I have ever used! And I have flashed them all!"

I am still asking for reasons as to why Froyo is better than Eclair? Any takers? Nobody has said anything other than the above two quotes.

If there is some kernel that in fact does make multi tasking work...please share, I'd like to test it and see if it works, because none of the other ones have worked yet.
[G1 Android Development] samsci:
Well, I am not on anyone's bandwagon, so get off your high horse for a minute. I have installed quite a few ROMs and this by far is the best one. After the initial setup and figuring out a few things, which I admit was a pain in itself, the phone is much faster than 5.08 ever was in my view.

Everyone does have and they are entitled to their own opinion. And each should be respected. You seem to have a habit of berating those you don't agree with for some reason or another. Not sure why.

My view and my view only is Cyan and crew are improving with each version they push out. This version is a major step in the right direction. I found moving my apps from external to internal fixed a major performance issue for me. Did I have that in 5.08, no. I hope it gets fixed in V6, but I can certainly live with having my apps in internal. Moving them there, I have seen the performance of my phone surpass anything 5.08 did on my phone.

So, I am perfectly happy with V6. There is a kernel for multitasking currently out there. It was made for 5.08. I heard someone say that it could be used for V6 as well, but not sure.
[G1 Android Development] studjuice:
And I take it we are ignoring the "cyanogen created cmparts" thing that is in froyo, and the built in adw launcher. (adw launcher is just handy for noobs. except they still complain...)

froyo has a better browser. faster, and better. thats a fact. but in general the apps in froyo are better, have more settings, and are more user friendly. same thing when comparing eclair to donut.

what i like about froyo is that it is consistent. if it's slow for you, it will stay slow and your dumb for not making it faster (edit: not aiming that at you!), if it's fast it will stay fast till you the user slow it down (say with all your screens filled with widgets...)

now all my froyo talk comes from my froyo tests, not the cm rc1. so there are differences. like swap (32mb) among other things. in eclair you needed swap (about 64-96), sense roms needed swap too (96-128... dear god :().

Hopefully that was satisfactory?
[G1 Android Development] G1ForFun:
How do you define performance of your phone? This is what I am talking about. Everyone just talks...no proof. I ran this Froyo rom for four days...thats plenty of time for things to settle and a lot more time than most people give a rom before jumping to a conclusion.

While it was fast as hell upon first boot, that speed did not last. Maybe my G1 is worse than yours, all I know is that Eclair was unfinished when this was started, and this is even further behind than Eclair. I am fully aware of how to tweak and set up roms like this that aren't offical. I have done it countless times, so you sir are incorrect in my inability to set up this rom.

Also, I do not berate anyone...I just don't take crap from childish immature kids...or even adults who think they are better than everyone else and therefore do not have to give facts or proof with their meaningless statements.

Please show me a side by side or something. I think when people read that Froyo is more optimized than Eclair and 450% faster or whatever it is they advertise it as....They forget that on older hardware and a phone that it was never intended to be run on are not going to achieve those claims.

Also...I said that Froyo and Eclair feel about the same to me on my G1....interesting that you would try to argue that I dont know sh*t about Froyo after I made that claim.
[G1 Android Development] javon27:
Yeah, exactly. I turned all animations off, and even JIT. Still draining my battery twice as fast as 5.0.8 with everything turned on...

Oh, and concerning the fastboot wipe vs. the recovery wipe: what exactly is the difference? Regardless of the difference, it shouldn't be affecting my battery life, correct? Anyways, all I did was wipe all from recovery (RA) and had a blazing fast experience, so I doubt that my wiping from recovery had a detrimental effect on the ROM.
[G1 Android Development] Sik-1:
everybody complains and yet they cant do it themselves, smh, unroot ur phone and just back on the donut if u wanna complain, then u can tell tmo that u only can have 1 gmail account at a time lol or call htc and complain.....point is LIFE has problems:D stop the bashin and ask for help or help if u can
[G1 Android Development] G1ForFun:
Yeah dude, I don't know what CMparts is. Give me a break, go read my posts in this thread via the search button and you will know I am fully aware of these settings in AWD Launcher and in CMparts.

Lol...wheres the proof man? I call bs. You make this sh*t up as you type it and I find it hilarious.:p

Right that's why after using it for four days I always experienced times where I had to reboot my phone in order to get that "snappiness" back. Again, another false claim with nothing to back it up. You should write a book on this stuff.

Sounds like you didn't know what you were doing on Eclair. 32mb is the max recommended for compache or swap (I found it out the hard way cause my swap was bigger so I could try the sense roms). Saying that you needed 96-128, is another figure you just pulled out of the air with nothing to back it up. If you would have had something ot back it up, that figure would have been different and not completely wrong (96-128).
[G1 Android Development] firefly6240:
I replied to you earlier, I meant no disrespect with anything I said, I hope I did not come off the wrong way, I do respect your opinion :-)

so anyways, if your wanting to multitask, you might be better off with a 1.6 rom, they've had lots more time to be developed, eclair has been stable for a month or two, so there might be some ok multitaskers there as well.

but froyo has no stable release yet.

so finding multitasking optimization for it will be difficult unless its something you wish to develop yourself.

as for froyo being better than eclair:

again, no contest really.

eclair has stable releases.

froyo does not.

its just development time really.

this rom was released only days ago and is not meant to be the final version.

there is just no way to compare yet.
[G1 Android Development] G1ForFun:
Thank you, a well informed and civilized post.
[G1 Android Development] sauudmir:
hey i'm just a noob in installing this CM6

after reading alot of comments i'm unable to decide wether i should have fat32 parition or ext partition? and if i have only fat32 how to get my apps back? does they restore on my fat32 partition?

and most importantly many guys say that swap is always useful for the lagging in the launcher and to get to the home screen , i'm using it on cm 5.0.8 with swappiness 60 from swapper2...

can anyone please explain if i need to repart my sdcard and if yes can i have swap partition? and do i need to get an ext partition also? and most importantly is there need for swap for CM6 ?

i knw these should sound like noob questions but i'm really confused :confused::confused:
[G1 Android Development] minsley:
I'm having the same issue. Have you found a solution?
[G1 Android Development] opasha:
lol bro, just ignore their posts. i clearly know that this isn't the "fastest" for g1's. maybe for other devices, who knows, but definitely not g1's. everyone talks....makes no difference. unfortunately due to such posts, we really just have to try everything ourselves. im on studjuice's 2.3 and its running fine. i have also enabled the script for apps2ext by firerat. def slow to beginwith but eventually settles. you def have to use task killer but ignore the stupid tasks that keep opening. battery life obviously is hyped up again when we know it shouldnt be. its just about the same if not a little better than an eclair. also, there is some SERIOUS lag on the phone.apk. not sure what the hell is up with that....but oh well. more testing continues regardless. i havent read through for this problem, but i think what i really dont like about froyo's phone.apk is the fact that the slide buttons do not show up when receiving a phone call. maybe it's been answered....but i hope someone can explain why again to me. thank you (also touch ui does not help it appear because that's only for the in call buttons).

edit: oh and the studjuice roms before were terribly slow. i even realized that adw is a big reason for issues of slowness. i signed the file with launcher pro and adw included and chose launcher pro and it is much much better. i suggest people try launcher pro....i never liked it before but now due to all the new features, it's quite nice. also, certain apps dont work such as lock pattern widgets because of froyo's new style of lock which allows u to have the lock slide, lock pin, and lock password options. i guess we just have to wait for devs to code their apps accordingly to work with froyo. i know its still new and alot of apps need to be changed to function. also for some ODD reason there is so silent mode? its only vibrate.
[G1 Android Development] t_rob76:
one thing i have noticed today, i was listening to pandora and received an email. With other roms, the music would stop, the email notification would sound and about 10 seconds later the music would start back up. With this rom, the music kept playing while the notification came in.

I realize this is just one example (i have had my problems with this rom as well, but it is still early)

I currently use it as my daily driver, but i have 5.0.8 on hot standby for when i inevetably encounter an app that will not work with my phone.
[G1 Android Development] clintz:
SMS issues? what issues are you seeing?
[G1 Android Development] clintz:
I haven't noticed this yet, but I have always had some issues on roms 2.1 and higher, it's the main reason I was stuck on Super D for so long. I hope it's not an issue with CM6
[G1 Android Development] smuvman:
apps

maybe because its MY phone? what a useless post, to be upset about how OTHER ppl use THEIR phone. you dont want 100 apps on YOUR phone? YOUR choice. some ppl are app whores some arent. sounds like u may suffer from "app envy" my storage is bigger than yours. lmao my $.02 :cool:
[G1 Android Development] Babyface1249:
ok, rebooting now after permissions fix, gonna see if it helps, if not, i'll reflash

EDIT: No dice with permission fix, reflash coming
[G1 Android Development] notimethanks:
Thank You. Hope that read genuine.
[G1 Android Development] PrawnPoBoy:
Hmm... wont boot for me. What radio are you using? I'm on the 3.x.
[G1 Android Development] hellboy5000:
Damn it i keep getting fc from the market:mad:
[G1 Android Development] showerhead88:
major problem: gapps were missing after i upgraded from the 5.0.8DS rom.

when i flashed gapps again seperately, the phone wouldnt take me to the next screen after it says "Touch the android to begin".

luckily i did nandroid backup. but please fix this!
[G1 Android Development] Babyface1249:
Daneshm, what is different about the gapps you linked to?
[G1 Android Development] jon6206:
I'm not sure where defcon got his that were bundled in test 12 i think from u but they worked perfectly no fc's. gonna fastboot erase and test both of them thx

THX, but i just remembered i have a freshly formatted 8gb class 4 lyin around i was using in my old xbox
[G1 Android Development] motoman234:
Me too:( Ive even tried flashing different versions of gapps. Its a no go.
[G1 Android Development] Daneshm90:
I think u gotta wipe and flash cm + those other gapps. Just flashing on top wont work. But wait for others and then make ur decision.
[G1 Android Development] zoltan.fekete:
I'm using 3.22.20.17 radio, and engeenering SPL.

It takes really long time to boot for the first time (like 5 min or so), also a did a wipe of everything before flashing...
[G1 Android Development] Babyface1249:
Rebooting now after flashing your gapps, report coming asap
[G1 Android Development] showerhead88:
videos taken with camcorder on eclair can't play in gallery.

also, the pictures are not viewable...
[G1 Android Development] PrawnPoBoy:
I went through and flashed everything again and did a full wipe and it worked. Maybe I wasn't waiting long enough the first time. Thanks!
[G1 Android Development] GOFORBROKE:
Time to give this bad boy a test.
[G1 Android Development] Babyface1249:
Hmm, rebooted while it was still booting
[G1 Android Development] ju12zo:
phew... took forever...

fastboot,wipe,cm6,yay-gapps,reboot,signed in ....

Market FC'd almost threw phone... but tried it again and now it works!!!

edit: everything I click to install says its downloading. you have to hit cancel dl and then click install for it to download
[G1 Android Development] Babyface1249:
WEIRD! I went into market and it was downloading **** by itself!
[G1 Android Development] Daneshm90:
That to me happens with any rom i newly flashed. It takes about a day for the market to settle in, initially the comment page take like 5 minutes lol. So i dont think its an issue, give it some time to settle.
[G1 Android Development] B6gSix:
came across a bump in the road :mad: the market is force closing on me just as in the defcon version ( i know their practically the same but still ) i dont know what is causing this. if someone dont mind could you fill me in on how to do a log so that i can post one ? but other than that this **** is gangsta for real
[G1 Android Development] robuser007:
apps2ext isn't included:

http://www.mrcellphoneunlocker.com/android/apps2extfix/fix.txt

How to enable apps2ext:

First download the following:

http://www.mrcellphoneunlocker.com/android/apps2extfix/a2sd-2.7-update3r1-signed.zip

http://www.mrcellphoneunlocker.com/android/apps2extfix/AutoMTD-Kernel-CM6-FroYo-TEST4.zip

Put these two files on your SD card.

next.

Flash the AUTOMTD kerenl in recover mode and reboot

remove the bootanimtion from /system/media

reboot to recovery and run the a2sd-2.7-update3r1-signed.zip

reboot

adb remount

adb shell mkdir /system/sd

adb remount

#enable a2sd

adb shell a2sd install

#also move the dalvik cache to sd card.

adb shell a2sd cachesd

#check if all is ok

adb shell a2sd check

#reboot to test that the phone starts ok

adb reboot

If you like these fixes: Please donte to john.b.hale@gmail.com THANKS!

ANYONE got succes with this method?
[G1 Android Development] keepromancing:
There was an article on Gizmodo.com the other day regarding this. You can skip the original tutorial/setup by touching all four corners of the black background behind Andy.

Starting with the upper left corner, tap. Move to the upper right corner, tap. Lower right corner, just above the Change Language button, tap. Lower left corner, above the emergency dial, tap.

Just do it kind of quick, and you can manually "activate" the phone.
[G1 Android Development] samsci:
I have been running it since it came out. And since the first initial setup frustrations, it has been great. I run a MT3G, so in honesty, it could be quite different than what you are experiencing on your G1.

I make no claim that you do not know anything about Froyo, since you have been running it. I do make the claim that I have run both and I find Froyo running much better. Anyone who says 450% fast or so is nuts, but it is definately faster / smoother. I used to have some reboots happen on 5.08 and some pretty bad lags in 5.08. So far since day 1, no reboots nor lag on Froyo. So, yes, there is a difference 'for me'.

Scrolling appears much faster in this version than in 5.08. Boot time does as well. Opening apps is quicker. Response in the web appears snappier. I have not experienced any wifi issues as some others have (lucky?). One issue I do have that I had in 5.08 is the gallery 3D. Never liked it then, don't like it now. Still lags in loading pics when you have alot to load when starting it up. I hope they resolve that issue, but I doubt it.
[G1 Android Development] studjuice:
wow. someone needs a bowl of dicks. @g1forfun i disagreed with you, and you flamed me. went all "where's the proof" like a d. firefly agreed with you, without "the proof" and you didn't flame. obviously, your a bigot. I recommend you get your gf over and get to work fast, or maybe go take a nice "long shower"

But what i really wanna say/know, if you don't like froyo and blah blah blah, that's fine. That's all on YOU. It's not good enough for you, that that makes sense. But if that's the way it is, get out of the froyo thread. go to the eclair thread. go to the donut thread. go to the f'n cupcake thread. tell them not to use froyo, waste their space.

If your going to stay in the froyo thread, then DO SOMETHING TO MAKE IT BETTER. This is a developing forum, a contributing forum, Towards The Future!

(anybody notice the PSO reference? eh? eh? :P)

@opasha hey man thanks for the feedback! I'll now consider adding in launcher pro in the next release because of you :)