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[Droid Incredible Android Development] rstandi:
Hey,

I have been trying to root since the minute the process was let out publicly with no luck, until this morning. I have been through each thread over and over and finally found several things that made it work. After completing the task and going back over everything I tried. I found out the following and I would bet good money it will work for any one.

1. I left my phone plugged in the whole time. No usb cord inserting

2. I had it set to disk mode under pc connection in settings.

3. I used the 2gb card from verizon. Did not erase it. Don't know how it was formatted and don't believe it matters.

4. Made sure the HTC driver was working. This was done by having phone plugged in while in normal operating mode. To verify this once you hear the usb sounds in the command window at the C:/whatever/tools prompt type adb devices. It should come up with a serial number or such.

5. This will sound odd, but several of the methods talk about the screen flicker and not many talk about a sound the phone makes when it loads the sd card. That sound is real and audible if you put the phone to your ear. try it when you turn your phone on. You can hear it. That sound is the key. Try it by starting your phone normally and put it up to your ear. You will hear it.

6. Ok, if your phone is recognized by adb and you can hear the sound you have all you need. Make sure you have the necessay files downloaded to your tools folder.

7. With your phone in normal operating mode, shut it down. You need access to your battery and your sd card so the back needs to be off.

8. Pull the battery and unclick your sd card, hold Vol- and power. The phone will start and try to load the bootloader and leave you at the screen where you can select recovery.

9. Start Loop.bat

10. Press Vol - to select recovery and press power. move the phone close to your ear with your thumbnail on the sd card. When you hear that sound, immediately click in your sd card. The phone will goto the black triangle screen. The phone will then go through it's usb detection and when you hear the connected sound, you will get the error message. This may take 15-30 seconds. It took me 2 tries the first time, but now I have gotten it everytime I have tried since.

11. type in adb devices to verify that your in recovery.

12. Use your favorite method from here. The xda method is the one I used. Everything works fine. Wireless directly to my IPAD.

I think if I made a spread sheet of all the methods, sd cards and timings, we would find out that this is usually the thing that works. You can use the clock method, but I guarantee the right time collates with the cricket sound which collates with the screen flicker.

Anyone else smart that cares to look at this may be able to figure a way to streamline it even more.

Rod
[Droid Incredible Android Development] socalracer:
sorry buddy but this old news we all knew about the audible sound, most people tried clicking in the sd card at that point, others tried plugging in usb at that point, buts we all knew about the sound and tried different methods to get it to work. personally i tried your method and it didnt work before i actually rooted. the method i used, envolved a linux live usb flash drive, linux live sd card formatted, and the tail messages, worked everytime the first time, if i missed the first time i had to restart the entire process. atleast now you are rooted
[Droid Incredible Android Development] aaronjb:
Jesus, everyone has a method that works for "everyone".

Apparently "Search" is broken?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] therealmeal:
I hear what you're saying, but we shouldn't stifle discussion that could lead to a more reproducible method, either. Maybe this doesn't warrant a new thread, but whatever.

Anyway, I had tried several of the other methods before, maybe 20-30 times, but nothing worked. I tried to time it with the click sound a couple times before, and it didn't work, but I thought I'd give it another try, since OP mentioned he got it to work with the stock 2GB SanDisk card, and that's all I have.

This time, I got it on the second attempt. My reflexes were a little slow, so it was probably more like a half-second after the click sound that I managed to click in the SD card. I haven't attempted to get back yet, so I don't know how repeatable it is.

One thing that may or may not be worth trying for others is that right before I got it, I uninstalled HTC sync, installed the bootloader drivers from the unrevoked site (can't post URL since I'm a noob).

Then uninstalled them (check "delete drivers" when doing so they won't auto-reinstall), reinstalled HTC sync, and finally reinstalled the bootloader drivers. I did the last reinstall because the device wasn't showing up when the phone was in the bootloader menu w/just HTC sync. It's unclear if any of this made a difference, or if I just got lucky with my timing this time. :)

When I was booting into recovery and pushed in the SD card, very shortly afterwards, I got a balloon in the bottom right that said it was installing the drivers (again? is that expected?). After that, rewt!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rynosaur:
Oh lord, if I never saw another one if these threads, I could die a happy man. They're about as useful as alchemy, phrenology, perpetual motion machines, astrology, cold fusion, x-ray specs, etc etc ...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] adrynalyne:
The question begs:

If it bothers you so much, why the heck did you read it? Nobody makes you read these particular threads.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] elborak:
Because the title is so vague that you don't know it's YARMTISWWFE (Yet Another Root Method That I'm Sure Will Work For Everybody) thread until you read it?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] adrynalyne:
If you couldn't figure out the post content by this time:

Then some folks here might want to get tested for some learning disabilities. Don't even have to finish the first sentence to figure out what this thread was about.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] htc(hot-taco-cheese):
To become rooted, do you have wipe your phone and sd card?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] adrynalyne:
No, you definitely do not need to do that.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rynosaur:
I wanted to see who was pretentious enough to think that their hare-brained scheme for rooting needed a new post, why they thought their experience could possible impact developing for the Inc, or what could possibly justify tacking "for devs" on the title of their post--as if they succeeded in making a secret club of a thread by doing so.

If he/she really wanted to help devs, they might have PM'd the guys involved with Unrevoked first, or joined their IRC channel, rather than clogging up the forum with another rooting thread. Honestly, there's enough going on now to think of others' purposes here before your "eureka" moment. Too bad I had to bump this thread just to respond.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Oozura:
Why be so mean? The more discussion on obtaining root the better I would think. Maybe this topic was not helpful but another one someday might and if people like the rude folks bashing the OP in this thread make others afraid to post then we might never get a reproducible method.

The sooner we get a reproducible method the better, because that means more folks to test and a wider user base for ROMs. I dont think a developer would spend too much time on a ROM for a device that they do not own and feel only a handful of people would have access to.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rynosaur:
You call it mean, I call it strongly discouraging more speculation on a topic that already has a dozen or more threads going. As you can see by the proliferation of more advanced thread recently, most have moved on from trying to root, which common sense would tell one is caused by most having figured it out.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Oozura:
Maybe everyone has figured it out, maybe not. I imagine if you started a thread and asked who was still trying you would get several folks respond that they were. Nothing indicative of the entire population but just saying.

Edit: I just saw your avatar and then your use of such excellent gramar and vocabulary above. Did you make your own lingwo(sp) robot?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] egzthunder1:
This thread has turned into a flame fest against the OP (since pretty much the beginning of it). Thread closed.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Karma79:
Hey all,

I have searched a little bit, but my brain is fried from rooting today so i'm not having any luck finding a post on how to install a theme. I have found a million and one on how to make a theme, but not install it. :(

Could someone point me to a good "howto" please?

Or if it's as simple as flashing it using recovery you can just tell me to do that too! :cool:

Thanks!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] apristel:
Most you just flash using recovery.

The popular ones anyways.

Any particular one you are struggling with?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Karma79:
I haven't tried to do one yet for fear of breaking something after spending all day trying to root! :)

But im looking at installing this one.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=717559

I've already downloaded it. Do I just copy it to the root of my SD and then flash from SD with recovery?

Thanks!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] apristel:
Thats exactly what you do.. just make sure you downloaded the one for your rom... Damage control or Fresh.... and you will be all set..

Just so you know after flashing it might take a minute to reboot..just give it sometime and it will finish booting.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Karma79:
Sweet!! TY so much!!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] apristel:
No problemo!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Karma79:
OK I spoke too soon....well....still TY, but it didnt quite work. LOL

I flashed it, and the icons all changed, but none of the backgrounds did. Do I need to set those somehow or should it have done that??

Sorry im so noob!! :o
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] apristel:
You need to find and set the background yourself.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Karma79:
Lost again.... When I go to menu > wallpapers I dont see that background in any of the categories. Where would I find them at??

TY!!!!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vroomazoom:
You are looking for the background for the minimalist / movado theme?

I would post the link but it won't let me as I am too new. Simply go to the theme page, save the bottom picture to your phone, which is the background you want. (And by theme page, I mean the link you posted above. It has several images in it. of screen shots. the bottom one is the background. Save that to your phone).

Just save that image to your phone, then go to "menu" / "wallpaper" / "gallery" and select the image.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rampage537:
New to rooting, themes and such.

I found some place that before flashing a theme you need to:

Wipe data+Cache+Dalvik

Is this necessary?
[myTouch 3G Slide General] kyleds:
hey guys,

my girlfriend has a slide and she changed her messaging ringtone. but now, whenever she receives a text message it makes the sound she changed it to, then a second notification sound goes off after it.
[myTouch 3G Slide General] beartard:
It might be asking the obvious, but has your gf installed any other app (handcent, chompsms, smspopup, etc.) that might give a secondary notification?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Geniusdog254:
I'm doing some very evil things to my Droid in CDMA workshop, and I managed to lose my backup of the original NAM settings. I have them all saved elsewhere in a document except for one. What is the original value for the "Name" value in the top right corner. It is supposed to be the carrier name I know, but I don't remember what it was originally. Anyone able to let me know what it is?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] thedudejdog:
mine is empty. i hope this helps!

i just wrote "Cricket" so i will see if it sticks after reboot;)

EDIT:yea i think its empty by default, (at least on bb v0.4) but i wrote cricket and it didnt seem to effect anything. gl
[Desire General] rolphez:
Hi Guys,

Don't know if I should be posting this here but I'm at a loss, I have in my possession the HTC Desire and the Samsung i9000 both brand new, and I want to keep one and sell the other.

PROBLEM IS:confused: I have no clue which to keep and which to sell. Both have their pro's and con's yet I need to make a decisions and...FAST lol as I need the money!

What do you guys reckon? Any help would be needed!

Thanks!

Rolphez
[Desire General] 123schiff:
I probably go for the desire as I dont like the iphone lookalike of the samsung galaxy.

And if you need the money you'll probably get more for the samsung as its just released in Australia.
[Desire General] stewcp:
The GPS on the Desire is amazing... where as on the Galaxy S, all I've heard is reports of how bad and useless it is... that made my mind up when I almost bought one :D
[Desire General] rolphez:
Thanks for the input I'm leaning more towards the desire at the moment yet the screen and sound on the samsung are heaps better

What I mainly don't like about the samsung is the unneeded samsung crap they include in their rom.

The Htc sense is brilliant but I must admit the touch responsiveness is far better on the samsung.

Hard choice!
[Desire General] stewcp:
You can always root the samsung and remove the crap ;)

Or just use a different launcher...
[Desire General] Harnec:
In videos I saw, Samsung Galaxy's CPU was performing noticeabley better, especially in 3D apps.
[Desire General] sfa:
The Samsung should have aproximately 3x the 3D performance that the N1 and the Desire has.

Due to the 3D chip they're using.
[Desire General] jimlad:
hard choice indeed, i imagine the galaxy camera is also better, maybe if you remove all the bloatware from the galaxy it will be more responsive :confused:

it's also better outdoors?

i think galaxy, but it all depends on your needs, init!

btw i luvs me desire
[Desire General] prcach:
well, galaxy s got super amoled and better gpu...everything else is same or better on desire. lame UI on samsung and i rly dont believe in samsung updates, after seeing what happened to i7500... imho desire
[Desire General] dave wroe:
I have almost the same predicament.

I currently have a HD2 and I was so dissapointed that software wise, it was at the end of it's life. I thought that was a stupid faux-pas on the part of HTC and feel incredibly let down, as a lot of HD2 owners do. It looks like Android isn't ever going to be a viable option on it, and if it were, it would probably be a half-working shell.

So, thanks to O2 Ireland changing pricing in my contract, I was able to get out of my 18 month contract by 16 months on it :) so I bought a desire. The first thing I noticed, was that sense was nowhere near as polished as on the HD2, but I can live with that.

To cut a long stgory short, the network I was sold the phone on was utterly useless for data (Meteor) so i cancelled that contract, and tried to get the desire on voda. There were none in the shop, but the salesman in carephone warehouse in Ennis, kindly offered to sell me a samsung s i9000 on the proviso, that if if didn't like it, I could take it back and get a desire (as long as I made or received no calls/texts) so I stuck a disabled voda sim in and use it via wifi.

I instantly hated the Galaxy s because of 2 things. The blatent Iphone look, and the cheap plastic build quality of it. I can see that chrome outer edge looking worn in no time at all. Build wise, this is the worst phone i've come across. The battery cover is so thin and flimsy, and it's polished plastic so just inviting scratches and finger marks.

Anyway, 1st impressions aside, The User interface was just awful, But I have to say, that now i've installed launcherpro, and fancy widget I am really enjoying the phone.

I have a few days to choose which one to finally end up with (the Desire, or the Galaxy) and at this point I am torn.

I think what worries me most with the Galaxy, is updates. There will be an update to android 2.2 sometime in the far future, but I've heard others say thats the end of the official road. That in itself doesn't bother me, as long as newer versions of droid can be put on it. I think thats where most peoples concerns with this phone are. The desire has a company behind it with a better (but not always in the case of the HD2 and a few others) track record of updates, and there is a much larger community of cooks and enthusiasts for the desire.

The info out there at the moment on the Galaxy is sketchy. I've read people talking about how any cooked rom is only made from an official rom. Does that mean that when droid 3 comes out, that this phone is left behind? Does the same stand for the Desire?

Sorry for the long post.

Dave

PS. I just remembered my other MAJOR grievance with the Galaxy s. You have to use Samsungs proprietary software to access the phone via your computer. On the Desire, I just plugged it in, and could instantly see the sdcard. Not tried it with linux, but I suspect the galaxy won't be seen. Think I just made my mind up... Or maybe not.. Aargh :)
[Desire General] rolphez:
Thank you all for the replies, and I don't mind the long replies Dave, it's always best to hear such experiences as it helps me make a decision.

Here are my Pro's and Con's of both devices:

Starting with the Cosmetics:

1. The Build Quality of the Desire is by Far better than the I9000 - the i9000 feels like a toy rather than a phone.

2. The Desire looks much better than the Samsung i9000 - The whole reason I moved to Android is to forget the much hated (hatred is a personal opinion) iPhone look I don't want to be reminded by it again! :D

3. The Samsung i9000 is lighter than the Desire and although I actually didn't mind the lighter weight, my hand preferred to feel something solid rather than a piece of plastic. (I have to admit the HTC legend is my preferred phone as far as solid design is concerned!)

4. Samsung has a bigger screen than the Desire, and it's definitely brighter or cripier with it's Super AMOLED but pixel count is the same, and the 3.7" is more than enough in the Desire.

Moving on to other stuff...

5. I played some nice 3D games on the Samsung and I must admit for those who are into gaming, it's brilliant, I don't really care about such games i'm more into word games and stuff which the Desire manages to perform just fine in running them.

6. Using Swype input on the Samsung is much better than the desire, although I did manage to install Swype on the Desire and it works fine, but Samsung is more responsive it was just a pleasure to type on it.

7. Samsung's rubbish crap software on it is annoying and I seriously can't be bother rooting and installing custom Roms on it, I'd rather do it on the Desire - simpler and have a bigger variety of ROMS and updates...

8. I think I just convinced myself - Desire it is! LOL But i'll continue a little, GPS works much better on the Desire...

9. HTC is a much better mobile phone company for android systems (my opinion anyway)

10. Sound is better on Samsung than on Desire.

11. Samsung gives you 2GB space to install your apps on Desire gives you on 512MB but I believe this hurdle can be easily passed through A2SD.

12. Samsung comes with 16 GB Storage...which, though it's a good thing, yet you can buy a 16 GB micro SD for the Desire...Problem solved :P

Yea, the list can continue, but these are my thoughts...it is a hard decision to make...but i think weighing the pro's and con's...Desire beats the Samsung despite it being inferior with some of the hardware specs, I'm sure HTC will release something soon to match or surpass Samsung...
[Desire General] prcach:
btw, just a lil question...how better is sound on galaxy s? i got desire, but i got no samsung to compare them :)

just curious, since im mainly using phone(other than phoning ^^) as mp3 player
[Desire General] dave wroe:
For me, The perfect Android phone would be the HD2. I am appaled they wasted such a superb device on a dead OS. To double the insult, they will not offer a WM7 update path (I realise that's down to M$ but thats no damned excuse to someone who bought it thinking it would be future proof for a year or 2)

I love the size of the HD2's screen (but hate the touch input, it's very poor), thats why I was drawn to the Galaxy S. The screen is simply superb. Even using the stock droid keypad, the experience is much better than the HD2 and Desire combined. It is a pleasure to use the keypad, and swype performs really well. The desire by comparison is dull and boring. The colours don't jump out at you, and it's impossible to use in daylight.

I read all your pro's and con's and can only agree with you (apart from the sound, as I haven't compared them. I don't bother with mp3's etc.)

I think I am definately leaning more towards the Desire at this point. Technically it isn't as good. The screen is poor when compared against the Galaxy S. The buttons are clunky and unintuitive (The touch sensitive buttons on the Galaxy S are it's best feature IMHO), and the power button positioning is a pain in the the you know what! But it is likely to be much better supported by the community, and the company and thats important to me, as I fully intend to get back into developing again. The Galaxy S's onboard storage of 8 or 16GB is a major plus, but as you said a Micro SD card fixes that (although slower).

I'm going to investigate the rom cooking side of the Galaxy S now to to finally make my mind up. I saw a thread asking for £9.95 to access an online kitchen, but I thought that was against the principals of the community. Can't stand people trying to make money out of other peoples knowledge. If thats the kind of thing to expect from the average Galaxy S developer, then HTC it is :)
[Desire General] giatros:
I decided on the Desire as it was voted and chosen by multiple sites best mobile phone of last year. Also got an HD2 just because it looked fantastic and will probably be the last wm6.5 phone - lots of apps I like still not on Android.

It's simply a fantastic phone with great community support. Owning it 2 weeks I've already rooted it, got apps2sd+, froyo (defrost), now froyo with sense (djdroid)...

I loved the HD2 when it worked, it went back to HTC for a no quibbles change of motherboard as it was constantly rebooting. My experience with Samsung customer service and support has not been great I must say (have an Omnia). Battery was never satisfactory, gps fix terrible, TomTom was not working first 6 months as Samsung's gps implementation was plain bad...

A friend got the Samsung, waiting him to break it so I can say 'told you so'...
[Desire General] dave wroe:
I decided on the Desire too. The GPS on the Galaxy was unuseable. It's a great device, but I think i'm going to get much more mileage out of the desire. So took it back today, and got a shiny new desire.
[Desire General] Sillysod:
Not to mention, 32GB MicroSD's soon to be coming down in price! And performance wise, I doubt you will be able to notice a difference on a decent class.

Think you chose the better deal with the Desire, just for the overall quality it gives you, even in its relatively small stature... I wanted the Evo, it's not in the UK, the Desire is a perfect stepping stone till we get 4G, although a stepping stone as is any phone.
[Desire General] rolphez:
I think Desire it is for now, until HTC release a new better device...until then I don't think the Samung i9000 is worth it (even with all it's pro's)...I have a brand new one with me for sale...anyone interested?! :P