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[EVO 4G General] jonathaflores:
yep sir, Unrevoked its busting 4g!!
[EVO 4G General] theillustratedlife:
I was using unrevoked.apk at first, as I didn't want to wipe my EVO. I had to wipe it anyway to move from the I/O account to my personal one, so I though "might as well root now." I like having ENG SPLs, and unrevoked2 wasn't out yet, so it wasn't a difficult decision.

I was terribly disappointed in every custom ROM I tried. They would run hot, the battery sucked, and they'd randomly reboot when I wasn't even touching them. I finally had enough and went back to a stock system.img with unrevoked.apk installed, and everything worked fine. I only use root to have full access in adb anyway - I don't really mess with task killers or the like. I'm not interested in a custom ROM until FroYo AOSP.

I applied the unrevoked version of the latest OTA patch last night. Let's see how that goes…
[EVO 4G General] 1wingangel:
im confused. why is this just now being brought up. unrevoked has been around for awhile. I haven't heard anyone complain until now. Is it something Unrevoked has done recently, or are we just now realizing the issue?
[EVO 4G General] bandagraph:
It is a known issue. Unrevoked released a response to the OTA for users to update without breaking root. The initial release broke 4g for almost everyone who applied it (maybe everyone). They pulled the release and a day later put up a new one that works (as far as i know). Those who used the first release still have no 4g. To the best of my knowledge, no one has been able to fix the 4g issues caused by the initial unrevoked2

Edit:

Read the second bullet under FAQs: http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/evo_ota_2_patch
[EVO 4G General] Neotelos_com:
Why the f*** is there ANOTHER thread on this...

There's already 3 threads relating to this, one of which I made that goes into detail and another which talks about changing MAC and it still doesn't work.

There is no solution, stop making new threads hoping to find one.

If you want a solution, wait for unrevoked to announce one.
[EVO 4G General] 1wingangel:
ok, so this just pertains to the OTA?

cause I haven't dont the OTA.
[EVO 4G General] jonathaflores:
it doesnt matter, we jut got screw, taking my phone to sprint on monday, two days to find a solution, or i am taking my phone back to sprint!!
[EVO 4G General] IAMCLP1:
LMAO - you really think the people at your "local sprint" store are smarter than these guys at XDA?

-= User Error =- :rolleyes:
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DeanHobden:
Hi there,

I have a HTC Hero obviously and I was just wondering if there was a ROM I could flash to it that's basically the vanilla Android ROM. I've been looking at some custom ones but I'm not sure which ones the best.

Basically, a ROM without HTC Sense (because I prefer the white status bar and the Android UI over the HTC one).

Thanks :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wezternator:
Use the search button. Or even better your eyes. Everyone else manages just fine like that
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] strider96:
Ez Hero doesn't have sense...
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bulltronStudios:
wow, what a **** ...

but hes right ... just an a$$hole about it ..

i use ezhero v5 .. its good ...

camera wont let you take time/date stamps off ..

other than that, its pretty good.... ezhero 4was better on battery, the other vanillas are the same really, just pick a name ... i chose ezhero soley on the boot screen, animation is cool ascii android ... and it boots with visuals like a computer, see memcheck and such ...

can find the ezhero in the dev. forums.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LooieENG:
I thought the same (about preferring Android UI) but I missed a lot of the HTC apps, keyboard, etc..

Anyway, try aHero and CyanogenMod
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SiL3nTKiLL:
i would LOVE a vanila version of android!
[General Questions and Answers] klick_drauf:
Hello i have installed some games on my xperia x1 i have windows mobile 6.5 on it.

But i can't find the games to start.

Where can i start the games. They are not in games !!!
[General Questions and Answers] Zepiii:
Hey,

Probably the .CAB wasn't compiled correctly.

Have a look at \Program Files\ And check for a folder with the name of the game, enter it and then, run the .exe ;)

Else, send me by PM the name of the game you trying to run

See you.

Zepiii
[General Questions and Answers] klick_drauf:
it's a .jar
[General Questions and Answers] egzthunder1:
Thread moved to Q&A.

Extension jar is for java afaik
[General Questions and Answers] jonto:
Run Java and then select the game you want.
[General Questions and Answers] klick_drauf:
but there i can only uninstall

and not run
[General Questions and Answers] klick_drauf:
can someone help me ??
[HD2 General] hase01:
During the last week I experienced some strange behaviour on my HD2. I want to point out that in general I am very happy with it, but now I wonder whether my device is faulty or weather this is a feature.

What I have seen:

- my device had some sudden reboots when using it in my car, charging with car charger

- this happens only when outside temeperature is close to 30 degrees C or above

- it happens after some time (10 - 15 min) using Navigon or even just doing Bluetooth calls

- it usually stops charging the device, the LED is then blinking green & orange, then reboot

- I recognize that the device is very hot

- after cooling down it has lost the power settings

I found two other threads dealings with similiar effects

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=707477

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=627884

and now want to do some detailed anaylsis here. I installed BattClock (great tool!)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=612083

to monitor the battery temparatur and found the following:

- idle phone (office, not charging, 3G connect, push mail activated): 25 - 30°C

- phone in use (office, not charging, checking mails etc): 30 - 34°

- idle charging (as idle phone, plus charging): 30 - 34°

- phone in use, charging in car, summer temp 28°): temperuture rises up to 47°

The last case ended with a reboot, when coming up again the temperature was 47.1 degrees, green / orange was bblinking and charging has stopped. Before crashing the temperature raised from 33 to 47° within 15 minutes.

Can anybody confirm whether he can run the HD2 wíth 47° and above? I would like to understand whether I shoul return my phone under warranty or whether this is a feature. 47° is high - though I do not think too high??? I also got the impression that this issue is coming up more and more frequently with my phone and as the summer just has started this could mean I need to stop charging while driving. How to use navigation?

Any comments or ideas?

Regards Hase
[HD2 General] tomj777:
Well Hase,

I've seen this a few times in the past when driving running CoPilot, Bluetooth, screen bright and charging.

In the last week, with a new ROM base and significantly warmer weather, I've seen this with just having the phone in the car charging.

Very interested (and actively hunting) a manual underclock to see if it helps.
[HD2 General] br4nd0nh347:
I don't think this is a defect, but it does happen.

I've noticed it too a alot during the NE heatwave in the US.

I'm waiting it out for now.

47C is not too hot though, although maybe there could be some kind of feature with the processor?
[HD2 General] msoler8785:
Yeah I've noticed it too. I was driving in my car running Bing Navigation with no problems for about 2 hours with the windows up and the ac on in my car. 10 minutes after I opened the windows when it was 101 F outside bing maps would randomly shut down and other apps would not even open. Closed the windows cranked the ac and held my phone in front of the vent to cool down and it went back to normal without even having to soft reset. Seems like a feature to prevent damage to the phone.
[HD2 General] cccy:
I would guess its some overheat protection feature with the processor, as its really the latest, which means sometimes it may get too hot ( you know, 1GHZ is really fast and thus may generate much more hrest than normal slower processors ) . Just like Intel's processors, which also shut off when the temperature rises over a certain programmed known "safe" temperature and reboots the computer, in hope that when its started again, it would be cooler. As for battery temperature, the cpu may be even hotter than the battery's temperature and thus it may seem that the phone shut off at a low temperature, but in actual, the processor is REALLY hot. And as its a mobile processor and its known that the second hottest factor is charging/discharging the battery, charging may be temporarily disabled until it cools down to a "safe" temperature to prevent overheating/buring out other components. But that's just what I think. Best to check with Qualcomm or HTC if possible as it may also be a defect in the phone. Hope this helps.
[HD2 General] compact_bijou:
I haven't experienced any reboots but I have had problems with my HD2 locking up due to excessive heat.

Leaving it in direct sunlight means I'm unable to unlock the phone due to the lack of response from the screen.

Yesterday my HD2 was charging in its cradle and wi-fi was on. The device got hot and became unresponsive and I ended up putting it in the fridge for 10 mins which brought it back to life.

The HD2 definitely has an issue with high temps, the screen in particular.
[HD2 General] Kalavere:
Have you tried LeoCpuSpeed?
[HD2 General] DCHigley:
I have had this problam as well. It also happened with my Touch Pro 2 when in the car, sun, Copilot, etc...

My fix was kind of a lucky guess. I have AC vents that blow on the windows of the doors when it is on the defrost setting. I just have the windshield mount sitting kind of over the vent for the drivers window. It is not quite in a direct line with the window, but enough AC comes out of it to get to the device and cool it.

When I do this, it goes from a rather toasty to the touch to rather cold actually. Even with the rubber "case" on it it keeps it down to a reasonable temp, if not below, with it charging, GPS going, bluetooth stereo and WMP all going.

Since popping it into the airflow it has not even gotten warm let alone started the warning flashes and such.

Kind of an obvious one, but those are the most often overlooked so I figured I would add it in.
[HD2 General] hase01:
In fact that was my solution too. I changed my cradle using one putting the HD2 in front of an AC outlet and now everything is fine. Just make sure the lower part of the HD2 where the USB cable is connected is not covered by the cradle or any cover as this is the place where the cold wind has to blow. Battery temp remains well below 30° C, if driving longer distances even below 20°. I am not sure whether I will get too low? And I do not now yet what will happen in winter when we get it freezing cold and heating will step in.

Does anybody have tried underclocking yet? Would be good to now whether this could be an option too. Sometimes even using the HD2 on hot days (without charging!) gets the temp up to 38° C plus. Best thing is not to hold it on the lower part.

I am wondering that still only some people get this problems. Either everybody is ACed (not poss in my convertable) or the problem is only with some HD2 or some ROM. Has anybody noticed any other strange behaviour after an overheating occured? I noticed some issues during the last months which I could not yet connect to any other reason. I am not sure whether I have had overheating bevor these occured the first time:

- all of a sudden bluetooth connex to my car was not poss any more

- all of a sudden pocket xls application and the note application got very very slow

- all of a sudden POP connect to google Mail did not show any mails any more.

These effects did not show up the first time all together, they came one after another, one per month since March. And probably I have had overheating earlier without even noticing it

Regards Hase
[HD2 General] tbzdat00:
Hi, i have the same problem with overheating ... it stop charging when Battery Temperature reach 45°C. Battery PINS are all OK and clean

First : My Leo has Radio 2.11 (2.12 same problem)

OEM 2.10 (My own ROM)

Today Test : Go back to original ROM 1.66 (Radio 2.06) and my HD2 does not overheat ! Strange :confused:

I can see with PowerGuard that the charging current slow down when the temperature go up and reach max 42.3°C

Tomorrow Test : Radio 2.06 and my ROM with OEM 2.10 ... if do not overheat then i try with Radio 2.08 (more RAM ... TMOUS) ....

to be continued ...
[HD2 General] tbzdat00:
:( Today Test with Original Firmware 1.66 and Radio 2.06 has problem too :(

Ordered new original Battery from Brack.ch ... when battery comes make new test to see if it's the battery or HD2.

Strange is that the battery is not so hot but the charge circuit of the HD2 is very Hot. (Hottest place is between SD CARD and SIM Card)
[HD2 General] DW!:
Hello,

I experienced the same sudden shut downs (not reboots) during the last days as well ("hopefully" only due to the very hot weather).

And

none of my POP3 account seem to work right now!

The internet connectivity seems to be okay, and of course I haven't changes any mail settings... but I cannot receive or send any mails. I get no error message when I try to receive mails but when I click on the new mail button my HD2 asks me to set up a new mail connection!

Any solution found to this problem?

Kind Regards,

DW!
[HD2 General] hase01:
On my side the problem is a bit different. POP3 seems to work fine (also no errors) but does not receive mails. Sending is o.k. And this problem is only with gmail, other accounts work like before.

What about pxl on your device?

Regards Hase
[HD2 General] DW!:
What do you mean? What's "pxl"?

Do you already tried to set up the account from scratch again? That's what I intent to try later at home...

Regards,

DW!
[HD2 General] hase01:
PXL is Microsoft Excel on Windows Mobile. On my HD2 it takes about 2 minutes now until it open either the list of xls files or a dedicated xls.

Yes I did, but with the same result, does not receive emails...
[HD2 General] cccy:
I had my HD2 heat up to about 48degs when in use while charging it. No problems encountered. Perhaps its defective. Send to HTC for repair?
[HD2 General] DW!:
Hmmm, that's no problem on my HD2 - Mobile Excel is opening as fast as ever...
[HD2 General] DW!:
I have now deleted 2 of my 4 mail accounts and re-installed them; the other 2 I simply have re-installed withour prior erasure - and this seem to do the job! Indeed I have done this more than once now, but 3 accounts now already received test mails... the 4th is a freemail account which I can only use every 15min. via POP3/IMAP...
[HD2 General] br4nd0nh347:
But what was the outside temperature? I think the overheating has to do mainly with using the phone (gps) while charging in a hot environment inside of a car.

Just charging the phone shouldn't use the processor to any significant point.

Just my $.02.
[HD2 General] hase01:
I use a Brodit Carholder http://www.brodit.com/. They provide professionel solutions for every car and PDA, often in front of the AC outlet. You need both a mounting platform (car specific) and a holder (PDA specific). I cannot comment on the Brodit HD2 holder which will cover the lower part of the PDA, it might take too long until the HD2 will be cooled by the AC stream.

I am using a brodit mounting platform together with a Hama "Mini Phone Gripper (http://www.hama.de/portal/articleId...2599?picURL=/bilder/00088/abb/00088404abb.jpg), both connected via "Richter Adapter" (http://www.brodit.com/images/215058.jpg). I have used this combination with other PDA before, I only have to adjust when I buy a new car (I usually change PDA more often...), so I think it's worth the investment (ca. 40€ alltogether, i.e. 60AUD). And may be you can connect you HTC solution to the Brodit Mounting platform to save some money?

I have no isssues any more since I changed my mounting platform to a one in front of the AC outlet which does actively cool my HD2. Even on hot days like this the HD2 stays below 25°C.

Regards Hase
[HD2 General] cccy:
Charging in the car under the hot sun with the car not running. I would guess about 45-50degs. My country has a pretty hot temperature of about 30+degs throughout the year.
[HD2 General] tbzdat00:
Hi guys, so ... brand new battery from HTC (original HTC 40.- CHF) ... and same problem ! :eek:

When the in car temperature reach 30°C and the battery reach 44.5°C the HD2 blink red green, after 10 minutes locks ! :(

I'm not happy at all.

BUT I HAVE A SOLUTION !!!! :D

Here :

Ezetil MF25 silver with window so that you can see who is calling you ! :p

http://www.coraitaly.com/pagine/Ezetil/prodotti.htm

It's a joke :-)

Regards
[HD2 General] troed:
Isn´t it a shame to have such an excellent device at this very excellent high prize and becomes fully useless in summer when You need navigation most ?

I mean, do these HTC people not think and test their devices if they work in REAL LIFE situations before they sell them ?

When everything producing heat (except processor) is concentrated at the bottom (antennae, mSD-card, charging unit) then problems are programmed.

Sorry, 3 weeks ago I was a glowing HD2 fan, the disappointment now hurts even more ...........................
[HD2 General] lamajstro:
troed, I can fully understand the pain, I feel it, too.

Yesterday, navigating in Germany, outside temperature about 29°C, inside the car the AC was on and it was not too hot. HD2 was navigating but not directly in front of the AC stream. And also plugged in the car charger.

Then, all of a sudden, in the middle of the autobahn, the HD2 shuts off and restarts itself, but not starting the navigation again. You know, on the motorway, with 150km/h you can't really stop there in order to start your navigation again, nor can you play with your device there since it is perilous.

So, I missed the necessay exit...thanks...

I'm really angry. This is new in HD2, I never had this problem, although it was quite hot, with the HD during the last years. So I guess, this must be some kind of defective device, even if it has 1 ghz processor. I mean, that way, this function is useless.
[HD2 General] cccy:
I just got my HD2 not long ago, but its pretty well, just gets hot at the bottom, but no other problems whatsoever like crashes/restarts/errors. Maybe you people got a defective phone?
[HD2 General] a13x4nd3r:
why don't you put the hd2 in front of the air conditioner, this phone will get very hot, if you use it as a gps receiver, 3.5/ hspa connection, youtube, playing big video, and overclocking the processor,

i suggest you put down the phone in the front of the blower, if you don't want to break the snapdragon chip
[HD2 General] Kalavere:
I haven't come across any temperature issues, but then again I live in England. :rolleyes:

But I should think that ~50 degrees should be well within the TJ Max of the QSD8250 Snapdragon. I know mine often sits at 35-40 degrees when I am multi tasking, but with that said I use an Otterbox Commuter case as well, so it's not exactly ideal for keeping the phone cool.

Underclocking the CPU significantly should keep the temperatures lower for obvious reasons, and I can't see why TomTom and other GPS programmes wouldn't work smoothly on say ~600Mhz, it's not like you need 60 fps to view a map you are only glancing at, as long as you still have audible directions.

And if you would like to have a decent satnav, save yourself the £100 or so you would shell out on the out of date software for use on the HD2 and get a proper satnav! As far as I know the new GPS software isn't supported on WM anymore, as there just isn't the market there for it.
[HD2 General] maxiflaxi:
i have the same

hej i had the same problem,

i was outside listening to music on my phone it was like 25degrees outside i picked up my phone and it was verry hot i have an app where you can see how warm the battery is,

it was 67degrees :eek: i did my battery out of my phone and let it cool down but there was no such thing like flashing indicator.

so i looked on taskmanager/menu/view/processes and there was a program that used 97% of my cpu it was named notusedprograms.exe i deleted evry app on my phone but that didn't work so i did a hard reset and putted dinik and miri's rom on it with HD2Tweak on it (it is something like bsb but something more advanced) and now everything is fine and oké.

and i don't have a car because im 15 years old so i can't give some tricks for car loaders :confused:

i have an bike but there is no 12v. loader on it :p
[HD2 General] tbzdat00:
Sent my HTC HD2 to HTC Repair Center .... now wait ....
[HD2 General] troed:
Nope, definitely not. Mine was from the first series delivered in Dec 09. Used it for 1 month navigating in New Zwealand in a Motorhome without any problems since according to attachment of the active Brodit-Holder it was never exposed to direct sunlight (and maybe in AC-stream).

Then used it for month back in Austria for navigation continously 3-4hrs +: no probs since it was cold then.

No crashes or freezes until then, superstable.

Porblem started when temps rose to 30°C + in my car (according to shape of the car the HD2 is always exposed to direct sunlight, can´t change that).

Now ambient temps dropped back to 20-24°C, currently cloudy, an HD2 works fine as always, navigating 3-5hrs without any orange-green blinking, freeze or crash (even when Copilot ON, Music Player ON, e-mail download every 5-10 minutes, BT ON, doing some calls for 5-10 minutes, loading the batt = HD2 is stressed on maximum level and multitasking)

So it seems, it´s only good to be used in Iceland, Greenland, Norway and so on ........ :mad:
[HD2 General] thompsd:
The HD2 uses a lithium Ion battery & while I don't know if rebooting is a programed function I can tell you that about 45c is when most battery companies start derating. There is a membrane in the battery that separates the oxidizer and reducer, as the battery goes past 55c this membrane starts to break down, around 65c you have an uncontrollable reaction which is what you see in the laptop fires. All lithium batteries suffer from this in one form or another.

Feel safe in your electric car? Imagine that in an uncontrolled meltdown.
[HD2 General] dallasjim:
I have the flashing light problem too. I cannot charge in WinMo, even when the phone is off. I can charge when booted in Android. Back to stock ROM and back to TMOUS. Bummer.