yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] theredundant:
dcordes loaded ubuntu on his hd2... for those who doesnt follow his twitter, here are some pics (reposted)

http://twitpic.com/20cohg

http://twitpic.com/20cruy
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dyatell:
waiting for ubuntu))
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] trinobop:
please help

to start off im a noob.

i have a stock tmo usa hd2

i was just trying the new haret pre.0.5.3 loader, and it started to load a rom i got form touch hd, on this site, it froze halfway thru the boot so i restarted my phone and was going to try it again and when i try to start haret it pops up with an error that says " the file 'haret-pre-0.5.3-20100625_144828-qsd8250-only' cannot be opened. either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of its components cannot be found. if the problem persists reinstall."

so i deleted file off my sd card and tried to put it back on and i keep getting the same error.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mdalacu:
Ubuntu

@dcores, hi can you provide us with a small step by step tutorial (like the one for mplayer) for trying Ubuntu, just for fun. (i know that i must have some kind of input device). Thank you.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ForceField:
+1

Awesome
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] wangiles:
Cmon guys. stop ranting of not able to run linux.. i almost read everyday to read on devs progression. To see how people asking to run it really turns a reader off. stable build not ready yet. so JUST KEEP QUIET AND READ QUIETLY... let them move forward, not stop their progress w ur rants. sheesh.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Skywalker74:
Ubuntu will work like a charm with bluetooth keyboard (like Logitech diNovo Edge)!

Dcordes, is Ubuntu able to control the bluetooth radio in Leo?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] sowfeast:
I have a DiNovo Mini. You'd need a USB keyboard and mouse connected at least once to enable you to pair it - am I right? Or is there a way to do this with the standard phone-->USB connector, i.e. from a console of some kind or by FTPing a config file across?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] fadzy:
WOW!!

Damn dcores!! You got Linux Ubuntu On HTC HD2:eek:!! How is it working out speed wise?

Good Job nonetheless.

Congratulations to you and the whole team!

PS: What was the name of that usb hub thing so that i can connect a keyboard and mouse to the hd2? Also, is there USB HOST for windows mobile? I have seen Cotula's videos, but they all say thats its not stable enough for release.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] chris5932:
What cable did you use? Where can I get your last (ubuntu) build?

Thank you
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Carliz89:
probably a newbie question but does Android have a better App store than market place?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] G-ThGraf:
Yeah, really ^^
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Carliz89:
Ive never had an Android phone or anything I have like really a BUNCH of questions but I think Ill wait til it actually happens
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] :
It depends......

@Dev Team

Congratz!! But i have some questions:

How built up an keyboard which support hd2? Just ask..... im not in position to try this at home :D

Does ubuntu run with <448 MB Ram? Android will be able to run up to 448 MB ram?

I see in tweet pic that hd2 connects with internet......with wifi? (any bugs?)

Generally any bugs running ubuntu?

Thanks....
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] waxfresh:
depends on what? :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] :
In price

In how much reliable is

In quality of apps

In graphics

In speed

In reviews

In GUI

etc.......

Both the iTunes App Store and the Android Market boast the same basic features. Both offer featured lists, top paid list, top free list, general categories, ratings, reviews, and screenshots. One feature that the iTunes App Store offers that Android Market doesn’t is genius lists (S**t Happens :D).

Cheers
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] leobox1:
sorry am trying to get up to speed.. we are not at the andriod phrase right? right now is trying to establish a stable linux on hd2 before development on andriod start?

i am thinking of jumping ship from wm to andriod but i love the hd2 build.. will this proj make this dream come true?( with andriod's app store :) ) thanks for patience.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] NetRipper:
You probably need to hard-reset your phone. If this happens to any executable you try to run (except the ones provided in the (custom) rom you're using), then your registry is probably corrupted. This is a risk of booting linux via haret, as it promptly shuts down Windows Mobile.

---

Anyone having the problem where it can't mount the initrd as root (VFS panic etc), you need to add a line to default.txt or startup.txt:

set initrd_offset 0xa00000

That way the initrd is placed a bit further away from the kernel, eliminating the chance that the memory the kernel requires to initialize overwrites the initrd (if you carefully look at the ramconsole you would see a "initrd overlaps reserved memory" message and it would ignore and not unpack the initrd).
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Magnusri:
Touchscreen

Since you are now (by the looks of it) able to boot ubuntu, wouldn't it be possible to load the touchscreen driver from WinMo with the windows driver loader?

wouldn't it be easier to fit the windows driver to linux rather than fitting a linux driver to the screen?

guess you've propably thought of this already tho : p
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dcordes:
Hey, I have some tarballs to extract to SD and also .cpio.gz archives of rootfs for initrd use on my website. http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/ just lurk around a bit there. also check http://www.netripper.com/leo/

if you want to use initrd remove the root= line from CMDLINE in default.txt and use set initrd initrd-filename.cpio.gz instead.

please be aware that everything related to leo and qsd in org.openembedded.dev is rather experimental as we don't know if the correct compiler flags are used for this architecture. it might be better to build for one of the armv6-novfp architecture machine types like htcraphael but not sure on that either..

this stuff might also be critical to the binary exec problem... see mailing list.

in general it's good to use openembedded. in the future we will add phone fuctionallity for several htc phones there. htcdream is already supported.

edit: regarding the speed: be sure to install the lib psyco JIT stuff to speed up python and set the correct flags fro multi cpu in conf/local.conf
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hobbit19:
htc Droid Incredible source

htc Droid Incredible source

http://rapidshare.com/files/383039515/incrediblec_cc1c2268.tar.bz2
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dcordes:
is this for the cdma incredible "incrediblec" ?

..edit yes it is.. I have that locally already and it seems like it's very different from the leo. qsd8650
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hobbit19:
yes.

htc desire (bravo) source

member.america.htc.com/download/RomCode/Source_and_Binaries/bravo_54b7033a.tar.gz
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] sgjl:
It's still compiling ... and i'd a problem during the compilation

HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK

Length: 446456 (436K) [application/x-gzip]

Saving to: `/home/jsylvest/sources/expat-2.0.1.tar.gz'

100%[======================================>] 446,456 406K/s in 1.1s

2010-05-14 16:27:54 (406 KB/s) - `/home/jsylvest/sources/expat-2.0.1.tar.gz' saved [446456/446456]

NOTE: Running task 338 of 710 (ID: 566, /stuff/openembedded/recipes/expat/expat-native_2.0.1.bb, do_unpack)

NOTE: Unpacking /...../sources/expat-2.0.1.tar.gz to tmp/work/i686-linux/expat-native-2.0.1-r3/

gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--crc error

tar: Child returned status 1

tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors

....

ERROR: '/stuff/openembedded/recipes/expat/expat-native_2.0.1.bb' failed

i re-download the archives from other place and same thing ... No problem with the archive on windows but on linux, i always had a CRC error.I find a way to bypass this but it's strange ...

During the compilation, i found a link to an helloWorld initrd on your IRC. I de-pack it on my SD,

and boot on it but i see nothing because of this warning (i suppose) :

"Warning : unable to open an initial console.".

And after a while, i got an "panic kernel". With the "Image" you put on the first post,

it work normaly, and i got a kernel panic after a while.

Do you have an idea of what i miss to got this "Warning : unable to open an initial console." ?

PS : Still compiling "Running task 374 of 710" ...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dcordes:
please don't waste any further compile time. leo is malconfigured in OE now. I'm fixing this right now.

the kernel image posted is built with the wrong toolchain so they'll never work.

cortex-a8 and above must use gcc-4.4.x and I built with some 4.3 version.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] sgjl:
ok :) I've had some other problem with patch for expat and the last was:

NOTE: Running task 374 of 710 (ID: 134, /stuff/openembedded/recipes/glibc/glibc_2.9.bb, do_package)

NOTE: preparing tree for binary locale generation

NOTE: generating locale es_NI (UTF-8)

NOTE: Task failed: localedef returned an error

So happy to do a break with this compile ! 374 tasks on 710 in 5 hours ...

I think that my vmware need a break too. :D

The last thing for what i've no answer is my problem of console :

"Warning : unable to open an initial console."

There is no problem with your prebuild "Image" but with mine i got that ... have you a idea to solve that ? i think it's in htcleo_defconfig but i don't know where ...

thanks.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] xaoc747:
http://developer.htc.com/
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Zepiii:
If I am right, still nothing new since the last time I saw it (and gave it to dcordes) ! ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] sgjl:
i think, there is something new :

HTC Desire Kernel Source Code	72.7 MB	2010/05/14

:p
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Barlows:
Reading the IRC logs dcordes seemed to make a little bit of progress overnight with the toolchain
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] somebully:
-HD2 problem kernel unrelated?

-Problem might be compiling userspace binaries in the correct way. (Using correct toolchain, compiler flags)

Follow htc_linux on twitter.com!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jubeh:
if this is for the desire (codename bravo) and not the droid eris (codename desire) then the kernel code should match the euro hd2 (save for the digitizer)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] somebully:
If you look at the site http://developer.htc.com/ it's obvious it's Desire (codename bravo)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pkchips:
Well, think of it like this.

Imagine you have a wall with a really big set of pigeon holes. There are so many pigeon holes that you don't really know exactly how many pigeon holes there are.

Imagine there is an important letter for you in one of the pigeon holes, but you don't know which one. And let's say you know its probably in the bottom-right part of the wall of pigeon holes.

You really can't tell how long it will take to find your letter. It could be the very first letter you pick out, or the very last letter. You know that the letter is probably in the bottom-right part of the pigeon hole, so you're likely to find it faster than trial and error. BUT you're not sure its in the bottom-right part of the wall, because maybe your original information was wrong. In that case, it will take you absolutely agessss to find your important letter.

Now, imagine the pigeon holes are actually options for coding the new kernel. Imagine that the knowledge about the bottom-right of the wall is like the knowledge that the developers have regarding how to code a solution to the segmentation faults. In other words, they have an idea where they probably have to look to find a solution, but their ideas might be wrong.

And finally, imagine the important letter is like the solution to the problem. You really can't tell how long its going to take to find the solution.

I enjoyed writing this analogy. Hope you do too. :D lol.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] cd993:
Well said :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tids2k:
very well said .
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Nimche:
We should pin this analogy to the entrance of development site.

Can i have it as my Sig?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Finezt:
Twitter updates saying that he played a 720p video on the hd2 in #Linux. #ARM #htc #hd2

so my first toughts where that the kernel is now up and runinng?

and my second thought was how the hell fid you run an 720p hd video

any settings?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Blubster:
If you remove the tags, it says "just played 720p video on hd2 in linux.", so i would take this as it is, the "letter might just have been found"!

Looking forward to hearing if the incorrect version of gcc was the reason of the kernel issue...

Now, i guess we still have no drivers for the digitizer, and there are also many things still missing, but the progress is HUGE!

Thanks to the devs!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] charliemcf:
i like this idea :)

kinda like ndiswrapper for the wifi stuff (although the wifi works so not needed)

think you might be on to something :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Blades:
A cheaper solution would be to obtain a usb Y cable. One of these was included with a cheap aluminum 2.5" hd enclosure (about 8$). Its meant to power the usb drive using 2x usb ports. One is power and data from host, one is power from host, the other is power/data to device. Would that work? I see no reason why it wouldn't. The power consumption of a keyboard couldn't be all that high, 100mA max?

You could also use an external battery (that supplies usb power) for a portable keybd/mouse/hd2 combo.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Magnusri:
thats what i was thinking too : p
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] leobox1:
anyone pls?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Magnusri:
i think it will.

although there is noone that can say when or if this is going to be complete : p
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] denizenx:
I wdn't mind running ubuntu :D it's on my MID and it's really fast..

Android can be a Windows 3.1 on Ubuntu ;p
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tids2k:
the touchscreen driver needs to be hackable first, adjusting the irqs and some other stuff, it cant be ported straight from the win ce until someone can do a reverse engineering on it, have patience it will be done soon now, we may or maynot require elan datasheet ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tids2k:
yes it will, but will take time. go through the irclogs 3-4 days back, where dcordes and cotulla discussed about a dual boot option .. cheers. have patience, we have come a long way and we need to go a long way .
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Toss3:
Great job everyone working on this project! Knew you'd get it done sooner or later! Too bad I already sold my HD2 for a Galaxy S. :o
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] 1Maximus1:
Great :D

Now the HD2 will be a phone that wouldnt get old very fast.

If in a year android is available its almost like you got a new phone :D

And maybe WM7 will be ported to to the HD2 so it is not a miss-buy for sure :D

Keep up the good work and i hope it will all work out as you guys planned ^^
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ryuu55:
amazing! Great job guys.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] LightRevan:
QEMU emulator

hi guys...

i was thinking about one question which is not something that realy connecting to the main subject of this forum but i think it is still interesting question.

if android can be booted using linux kernel, it means that we can run android by qemu engine? qemu is open source program too and i think it is more easy to configure it for android.

sure that there are some disadvantages:

maybe it will work slow...

and maybe it wont feel all the hardware as it should be.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zoran123456:
they - are - MISSING - driver for touch screen. It's like - I have a computer and want to install Windows 7 on it. But if I don't have mouse and keyboard, my computer is pretty much useless.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] LightRevan:
QEMU emulator already have touch screen configured.

linux can be ran on x86 system so it means that we can run linux on QEMU or "bochs" emulators. and than, after we got linux kernel on qemu we can try android as we doing it with haret...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] xlanhackerx:
Hello everybody.

It´s really great that linux now would run at our Phone.

But I have now some questions for the developers.

Could we build a Wikipage which included all tutorials for developing Kernel and writing about adding HTCLEO_Board files and for building InitCode ??

It would help people who wanted developing Kernel and would explain what which file would done !!!

Hope this would somebody of the developers would done !!

Greetz
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] shaolin85:
after the patch ffor cpu. it feels it really near to be real. and i need to know if its being developed for europe version of hd2?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Philysubsailor:
Thank You All...

I've been following the development thread since joining XDA. It seems that you guys are close. Congrats to everyone involved and I'm sure glad that there are people a lot smarter then me working for us as a online community to make Android real.

i know most of you are not doing it for the money, but i for one will be more then happy yo donate once a working port is ready.

Thanks again and good luck the rest of the way!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] eyanlaya:
hi guys. I have a couple of questions and dun get me wrong i knew that there is no android on HD2 yet.

1. Will android able to run on HD2 smoothly like other android phone such as Samsung Galaxy S and other HTC androids?

2. Can HD2 dual boot android and WM but not one on the other?

3. Do we get to choose to install either android only or dual boot with WM?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] leftkats:
1. probably not.

2. maybe

3. when (and if) android is ported you will know..

PS: you might wanna have a fire extinguisher near by, cause you're about to get flamed!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Oberoth:
i think the chances to get a fully functional, smooth Android on HD2 are much higher like on other devices (like Blackstone).

cause the chipset is from qualcom and is used in some stock-androids, so there are many drivers available yet.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] newshaggy:
Ubuntu on HD2

Someone twitpic'd Ubuntu on an HD2 and it looks real...

http://twitpic.com/20cruy
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ElBartoME:
That's not someone. That's dcordes.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zoran123456:
man, you are lol :-)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] :
That would be sweet , I know Ubuntu has a version just for embedded devices, I doubt you can still make phone calls though ...

Kind of defeats the purpose of it on a phone ....
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] newshaggy:
Yep it is... sorry got excited and didnt check who posted it lol.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ams84:
:eek::eek::eek::eek: WoOoW

:(:(:(:(
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zoran123456:
is everything allright with you ?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] marios96:
Android is now running!!!

http://irclog.netripper.com/?chan=htc-linux&msgonly=0
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zoran123456:
where did you see that ? Cmon man, Android will not be here for next 6 months, maybe year. I would love (like everyone here) that it is here tomorrow, and that is working flawlessly but ... it - just - won't - happen.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] scrizz:
it still needs the touch screen driver ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] DomZ:
He's right they did it !!!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] scrizz:
getting really close

android booting on HD2 :P

http://www.glowfoto.com/viewimage.php?img=27-120624L&rand=1324&t=jpg&m=06&y=2010&srv=img5
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dyatell:
nice photo from irc ch
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] slayerns:
Cotulla made a progress : http://www.glowfoto.com/viewimage.php?img=27-120624L&rand=1324&t=jpg&m=06&y=2010&srv=img5

though it was a simple mistake :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] G-ThGraf:
Android on HD2 <3

http://www.glowfoto.com/viewimage.php?img=27-120624L&rand=1324&t=jpg&m=06&y=2010&srv=img5

EDIT: lol already share :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] charliemcf:
android :O:O:O:O:O:O

http://img5.glowfoto.com/images/2010/06/27-1206241324L.jpg

:O:O:O:O:O:O:O

i love cotulla
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] scrizz:
I win :P :p
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Cotulla:
yeah, after long work we able to start Android on LEO.

some screens:

(XDAndroid used)

http://img694.imageshack.us/i/imag0007n.jpg/

http://img716.imageshack.us/i/imag0006xj.jpg/

http://img193.imageshack.us/i/imag0002du.jpg/

Of course it's only start up - touch screen isn't yet working.

:)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] G-ThGraf:
Yes... I'm sad so...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] domineus:
that's...impressive!

good job team

I'm wondering if this is with the same touch screen error
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] theredundant:
Great news! :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zoran123456:
are you aware that you can now work for Google, Microsoft, Intel or some other mega company - and you can expect very high salary. I give you my full respect, and I'm a programmer with 13 years experience (asp.net, C#, delphi).

Man, you are genius :-). Check your IQ !

bye,

Zoran !

P.S.

crap, images not working!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] PePPaZ:
I'm so excited, and I just can't hide it. I think I like it.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zoran123456:
I'm so excited, and I caaaan't deny it ...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] scrizz:
Thx, you guys are awesome
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] callmecooper:
This is major. i was honestly thinking this was gonna be 3-4 months down the line from yesterday. man was i wrong, now that they have it booting, they are gonna want to work their asses off to get the touchscreen driver written. oh man, i am exstatic.

i was seriously going to buy me a mt3gs this week, but not anymore, HD2 here i come.

as soon as we get a touchscreen driver written, i am ready to donate some dollars. just let me know to where, and to who so i can get inscentive to the right person :-)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] copualt3:
this is awesome!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zoran123456:
It's official - TouchScreen driver will be complete in 3 months and 10 days.

Can't wait. !