yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[EVO 4G Android Development] gotshores:
hmm...

that's one thing i never did, was flash that panel driver. i wonder if that could be the cause? before myn's rls 5 came out, i did flash fresh's latest. I'm not sure if it's ROM based though because I'm using myn's rls 5 and i have 5 pnt multitouch
[EVO 4G Android Development] adrian2pm:
Thanks for clarifying. Let me enjoy my phone again LOL
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
kernels determine point touch not the ROM's
[EVO 4G Android Development] Sonjiin:
I lost 5 point as well.

Running Azreal 3.1

Build number = 3.70.651.1

Kernel = 2.6.32.27-netarchy-toastmod-4.3.1-cfs-havs-sbc

PRI = 1.90_003

Hardware version = 0002

Havent tried to flash any other Roms/ Kernels so i have no input on what may be causing it. Just stating my setup and that i lost it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
flash another kernel, ziggy's has 5 point as well, other than bragging rights any reason you need 5-point?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Agfadoc:
I can't seem to find any app that I use that uses 5 point so for me it's no big deal.
[EVO 4G Android Development] netarchy:
HTC #15 wouldn't have 5point anyway, the official HTC stock kernel only ever had 2 point.
[EVO 4G Android Development] netarchy:
You're not missing anything. A stock evo has 2point by default.
[EVO 4G Android Development] netarchy:
The kernel can expose the ability of hardware, it doesn't mean the software has to take advantage of it.

And the 5point code in the kernel hasn't changed since back when the evo was using android 2.1 and a 2.6.29 based kernel. The code is in there, it still works or no one would have 5point (which several people have retained, including myself).

There has to be another factor that's causing the 5point to fail. I'm betting it'has to do with the 3.70.x rom, especially when people can fall back to the older stable and still not have 5point (when we all know it worked just fine prior to any 3.70.x based roms coming out).
[EVO 4G Android Development] BuddaBelly:
I flashed back to an older rom (5 point had worked with) I had backed up with 4.1.9.1 and still nothing. Not a big deal really just making a note of it. It does seem though that once you have lost it...its hard to get back
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
i am on RLS5 using SBC v7 based off of your 4.1.9 based kernels i believe and have 5 point using an app to test. Also they could be falling back to restore point with a kernel that has exposed the ability of the hardware
[EVO 4G Android Development] ninjaquick:
Yo!

So I'm guessing this supports CM/AOSP since it works on CM at all, I'm also going to guess that this is not at all tested with Gingerbread (pre-alpha CM7) but I'll report this anyways:

Under Gingerbread, the most recent Stable build for both aggressive and moderate undervolt produce significant graphics corruption. At first I thought this might be HW related but reflash stock CM kernel and problem goes away.

It seemed to be bound to alpha channel blending and dynamic elements such as blinking icons on the notification bar, the launcher button and Launcher Pro's 3d drawer.

That is all.
[EVO 4G Android Development] chillenandy321:
What setcpu scaling is everyone using on cfs 4.3.1 havs?? Thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] nck4857:
I have the 4.3 HAVS MORE and i'm using it to mostly for the screen off profile.. I have it set right now for conservative 245-844, mostly to try and save the battery.. If I need to show my phone off to someone or something, I figure I'll just bump it up as needed... I have a couple of other profiles set up, but haven't messed with the advanced settings much...

I'm kinda curious on what everyone else has set up, also..
[EVO 4G Android Development] BuddaBelly:
I run SetCPU at conservative 998/245. I have a screen off profile set to 245/384 smartass governor. I run 4.3.1 BFS nohavs
[EVO 4G Android Development] mildlydisturbed:
setcpu

I turned off all CPU management (juicedefnder / setcpu) unplugged my phone today around 8, at 2:30 looked and just had a flat line for the 6 & 1/2 hours. It hit 99% while I was looking (guessing because the screen pulled a bit).

4.3.1 BFS SBC HAVS
[EVO 4G Android Development] HondaCop:
I get even better results by pressing the power button and selecting shutdown. Seriously, it does no good to say a kernel is awesome because it goes 6 1/2 hours unused. We need to know how much it lasts while being used instead.

PS. My name is HondaCop and I approve this message.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cheesegrits:
Rom recommendations?

Any recommendations for a good netarchy compatible ROM?

I'm currently using Sprint Lovers, but only because that's what the rooting method I used installed for me. I'm now a couple of months in to my introduction to Andriod, the EVO, rooting, and the art of battery saving, and am looking to try a few different ROM's.

I've been through a number of kernels, and settled on netarchy as providing a good base level of battery life for my usage pattern, and having good XDA traction / legs / support. But Sprint Lovers doesn't seem to like 4.3.x. So I'm looking for something a little more XDA mainstream, which stands a better chance of being in lock step with netarchy builds.

I'd prefer a Sense ROM. But I'm certainly not married to any Sprint bloatware, mine is all Titanium frozen, although (as long as you promise not to tell any of my friends) I might want to use the NASCAR app this season. ;)

TIA for any suggestion,

-- hugh
[EVO 4G Android Development] BuddaBelly:
Net has his own Rom. Its called Burnt Droid.
[EVO 4G Android Development] lowspeed:
Anyone knows how to make a volume long press skip a song ?
[EVO 4G Android Development] mildlydisturbed:
They are talking about screen off profiles in setcpu right above. All I was saying is there is no use to use setcpu at all for screen off. Had nothing to do with anything else other than idling while allowing you to get phone calls.
[EVO 4G Android Development] live2ride96:
How about that? Learned something new today. I know my screen is 5 point from running the adb command to find out but I never actually tested it with the stock kernel before I flashed net's. Don't need 5, but 3 would be nice some emulators. Thanks for clearing that up net. about
[EVO 4G Android Development] evohack99:
okay guys i flashed burnt droid 1.4.2 then i flash the old netarchy toastmod 4.3 cfs nohavs nouv sbc universal signed.zip, i got stuck on the splash screen. so now ill try netarchy toastmod 4.3.1 bfs havs sbc universal to see if it will get passed the splash screen.. im still not sure which one of these sbc kernels will work with the newest rom, or if it even will.. or should i go back to the old rom/kernel combo?

edit. okay i got the newest sbc kernel to work with the newest rom. so i will let you all know how it goes!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] mutant13:
ondemand, max 1190 - min 245.... charging & screen off 245max

its been 13 hours with moderate normal use & I'm at 54%

I use 4.3 havs more cfs sbc... fresh rom 3.5.0.1

phone runs very smooth
[EVO 4G Android Development] BuddaBelly:
Ok Net I just flashed the latest nightly CM6 with whatever kernel came with it and downloaded dotty and I had 5 point multi touch again:) I guess I was only really concerned because I thought I screwed myself back on Dec 8th when I flashed 20aa panel driver. Anyway my hardware isn't screwed from the flash which is what I wanted to rule out. Must just be something to do with 3.70 based roms/kernels. Anyway I'm right back to your kernel regardless of how many dots show up on my screen.
[EVO 4G Android Development] evohack99:
So I'v been using this sbc kernel, it seemed that it stopped charging after a while, but I have noticed a difference, it stayed on 100% now on 99% usually it would drop the first ten percent quick.

Sent from my netarchy_toast, froyo beast of a machine evo!
[EVO 4G Android Development] evohack99:
It seems to just go to 100% then stop charging, how do I tell if its trickle charging?

Sent from my netarchy_toast, froyo beast of a machine evo!
[EVO 4G Android Development] mildlydisturbed:
Get battery monitor widget or juice plotter.will show you
[EVO 4G Android Development] evohack99:
What should it do? Look like?

Sent from my netarchy_toast, froyo beast of a machine evo!
[EVO 4G Android Development] evohack99:
Iv had battery monitor, I also downloaded juice plotter, but I'm not to sure what its supposed to look like using sbc.. I don't know if its working. Lol

Edit, hows this look?

2011/01/14 23:49:37,8mA,100%

2011/01/14 23:50:27,8mA,100%

2011/01/14 23:50:37,8mA,100%

2011/01/14 23:51:28,8mA,100%

2011/01/14 23:51:38,8mA,100%

2011/01/14 23:51:51,8mA,100%

2011/01/14 23:51:52,8mA,100%

2011/01/14 23:51:53,8mA,100%

2011/01/14 23:51:53,8mA,100%

2011/01/14 23:51:54,8mA,100%

2011/01/14 23:52:38,6mA,100%

2011/01/14 23:52:38,6mA,100%

2011/01/14 23:53:38,6mA,100%

2011/01/14 23:53:38,6mA,100%

2011/01/14 23:54:38,6mA,100%

2011/01/14 23:54:38,6mA,100%

2011/01/14 23:55:38,6mA,100%

2011/01/14 23:55:38,6mA,100%

2011/01/14 23:56:38,6mA,100%

2011/01/14 23:56:38,6mA,100%

2011/01/14 23:57:29,4mA,100%

2011/01/14 23:57:30,4mA,100%

2011/01/14 23:57:31,4mA,100%

2011/01/14 23:57:32,4mA,100%

2011/01/14 23:57:33,4mA,100%

2011/01/14 23:57:38,4mA,100%

2011/01/14 23:58:33,4mA,100%

2011/01/14 23:58:38,4mA,100%

2011/01/14 23:58:57,8mA,100%

2011/01/14 23:59:14,8mA,100%

2011/01/14 23:59:16,8mA,100%

2011/01/14 23:59:17,8mA,100%

2011/01/14 23:59:18,8mA,100%

Sent from my netarchy_toast, froyo beast of a machine evo!
[EVO 4G Android Development] live2ride96:
Well, you should've installed it before with your previous kernel for a" baseline reading" and then compared it to what it looks like now. Oh well. Little late for a direct comparison.

Also, just in case anyone is interested, I just confirmed with my wife's stock evo that stock kernel definitely only has 2 point multitouch. Just thought that was kind of interesting.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mildlydisturbed:
Either, if charging, will show charging, if not they won't
[EVO 4G Android Development] evohack99:
I posted two posts up what it is doing, shows still charging.

Sent from my netarchy_toast, froyo beast of a machine evo!
[EVO 4G Android Development] mildlydisturbed:
yup, trickle charging... any time it' at or near 100 and still positive it's trickling
[EVO 4G Android Development] flyboy1100:
Yea, myn's rls5. I am tempted to go back to a stock rom just to test it out

just tried 3.29 with stock kernel, same result. will try 3.70 after it downloads.
[EVO 4G Android Development] netarchy:
There is no point trying a stock kernel for 5point. Stock only ever had 2 point. ;D
[EVO 4G Android Development] chummer360:
Been reading, what's the purpose of having more than 2 touch points?
[EVO 4G Android Development] RTC88:
Bragging rights.......the only app I can think of that uses it is the piano app. People just like to have stuff they don't have.
[EVO 4G Android Development] live2ride96:
Only application I can think of is an emulator like nesoid or snesoid and again that would only need like 3 point. Didn't even think of the piano one. Good call.

That being said, net's right - stock kernel with 3.70 still only has 2 point. Checked it on my wife's stock evo. (Not that I didn't believe ya before. I just like to check stuff out for myself sometimes.)
[EVO 4G Android Development] BuddaBelly:
Emulator is the only reason I even figured out mine had went back to 2 point.
[EVO 4G Android Development] adamantypants:
Ditto on that emulator. I didn't need more than 2 until I had that app.

But just a report here.

I'm running the 4.3.1 beta build with bfs/havs on Myns RLS5 (3.70) with the latest PRI/NV.

It was going flawlessly since the day Myn Released RLS5 and I flashed that with this kernel, even going an entire night without dropping a single percentage point off the charger. But just today I noticed that the uptime/awake time were practically identical. I rebooted the phone, cleared caches to see if it would help now I've gotten FCs on HTC launcher/sense and the phone is chugging along. I'm going to flash a more stable build and see if it changes.
[EVO 4G Android Development] BuddaBelly:
I had a similar situation with calks evo 2 1.7.7. Mine was the conservative script took a crap and kept my phone pegged full throttle. For me it was an issue with calks scripts and set cpu. I finally had to remove all of his scripts and reinstall setcpu and all was fine again. Now in all fairness calk designed the scripts to run with ziggys kernel and not Nets. Just saying the devs cook thier own scripts to work with whatever kernel they are using. I am using 4.3.1 bfs nohavs and everything is now smooth.
[EVO 4G Android Development] barnacles10:
Although I got some small amounts of screen tearing running nets universals on aosp builds, they were certainly functional. Any kernel extracts ramdisk and just pushes the zimage if I understand correctly? =P Kernels are not my forte.

There you go man! Feed that fire! Troll away.
[EVO 4G Android Development] AbsolutZeroGI:
1. Which kernel build(s) (ie; bfs/cfs havs/nohavs etc) are you using with the issue?

4.3.1 cfs havs nosbc universal

2. What Rom are you using?

myn rls 5

3. If known, what OTA base is your rom using (ie; is it based on 3.29, 3.30, 3.70, etc)?

3.70, PRI, etc all most recent.

4. Does the issue persist if you go back to a stable kernel build?

I didn't get these stats when using MS's sbc #15 v7

5. The issue being experienced (obviously ;D)

It's not really an issue, but a fun little stat I found. Since it's 6:37am and I haven't been to sleep yet, I haven't used my phone in the 2 hours since I last applied a theme (SinisterTensai's Frost 5 theme) due to all my friends being asleep. I checked my battery monitor widget and saw that my live wallpaper was using up 96% of the battery usage from last unplug, while cell standby and phone idle took 2% respectively.

This isn't an issue, since the battery doesn't drain that quickly even with live wallpapers, but since I put on a non-live wallpaper, my battery drain has been virtually non existant (26% sustained for about 30 minutes). I thought maybe I'd bring it up as a possible reason people were experiencing abnormal battery drain. Something to test or check out or maybe even a fix for a couple of people. Hope this helps!
[EVO 4G Android Development] netarchy:
Close. It extracts the ramdisk, combines it with the new kernel (zImage) to make a new boot image, then flashes that.
[EVO 4G Android Development] whatsleft4her:
When is the next release been using 4.3.1 bfs havs no sbc for a few days now been going great

evo running myn warm 2.2
[EVO 4G Android Development] dimaggiodt:
Any suggestions on a net kernal if I'm running fresh 3.5.0.1

EVOlved fresh style 3.5.0.1, and love'n it
[EVO 4G Android Development] PinnerProxy:
can someone tell me what im doing wrong? Im trying to flash the 4.3.1 more agressive and i load up but then as soon as the screens off and i try to unlock it, it freezes up and then it reboots. Ive pulled the battery a few times now and waited but its happened a lot with the past few kernels ive been trying (Htc #15 and 4.2.2 more agressive w/SBC) Im using clockworkmod recovery if it helps.

O and please pm instead of a quote if you can. Thank you
[EVO 4G Android Development] live2ride96:
This doesn't exactly mesh with the htc# 15 kernel problems, but maybe try a less aggressive kernel or a non havs one.
[EVO 4G Android Development] strikeIII:
I installed version 4.2.1 as one of the kernels recommended for myns twopointtwo and I'm tryin to use vpnc and it's saying there is no tun driver installed. I thought this kernel was supposed to include a tun driver?
[EVO 4G Android Development] frifox:
Ran v4.3.1 cfs havs since you released it and no matter what I did the phone UI was jittering, video playback would stutter once in a while, and overall performance was subpar... Installed v4.3.1 cfs nohavs this morning and adter whole day of use I can definitely say that performance is back to the normal silky smooth. Could undervolting really affect performance that much even if there were 0 random reboots?
[EVO 4G Android Development] live2ride96:
Yeah I suppose so. From what I've read every phone will react differently to kernels.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mildlydisturbed:
HAVS vs NOHAVS

I am wondering if anyone has done a battery life comparison on HAVS vs NOHAVS on the 4.3.1 kernels and what they've noticed.

Basically wondering if undervolting saves much juice (and whether the kernel still underclocks)
[EVO 4G Android Development] fixxxer2008:
the best kernel ive used from netarchy is the 4.2.2 less havs without sbc. im going on over 2 days without a charge and moderate usage.
[EVO 4G Android Development] brol1k:
Hey net you going to build a kernel with VDD like ziggys so we can use it on calks Rom with his battery saver scripts?

Tapatalk'd on Evo
[EVO 4G Android Development] mutant13:
I have been using nets 4.3 havs more cfs sbc , oc @ 1190 , runs very smooth... Been using this for 3 weeks with no problems
[EVO 4G Android Development] evohack99:
What kind of batt life are you getting?

Sent from my netarchy_toast, froyo beast of a machine evo!
[EVO 4G Android Development] RFrancis:
I also think thats a great Kernel. You can expect to have about two full days of battery on a full charge under moderate use. Truthfully I've always like comparisons, but no one is running the same thing under the same circumstances so that pretty much defeats the purpose.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cheesegrits:
Thanks. Had an issue with Google sync at first, I think due to restoring my contacts data from a Titanium backup made on another ROM. Was sucking battery because gapps kept fc'ing, and the sync would start again. But after clearing contacts data and reboooting, it's running like a champ, sipping battery and blazing fast quadrants.

+1 for Burnt Droid.

Now to try the other kernels.

-- hugh
[EVO 4G Android Development] mildlydisturbed:
Question on all the kernel forks

Hey Net, forgive me if this is a completely noobish question, but I've been reading the forums on your kernel and a few other kernel discussions and was wondering it.

Why do you have so many different kernels? I understand the need to have different things as not everyone's phone supports HAVS, and not everyone wants to use BFS, but would it not make sense to have a kernel with all of those built in and then use an application to select the options you wanted?

IE you flash your kernel, first boot it's in completely generic works-with-every-phone mode. A small app allows you to choose if you want to use HAVS/NOHAVS MORE/LESS BFS/CFS SBC/NOSBC. You select what you want, reboot and it picks that up. Phone doesn't like what you selected, kernel sees a non-boot and switches back to vanilla.

From your side, you gain only having to have 1 link up, you only need to compile 1 kernel, and your changes will be incorporated across all possible combinations. Occasionally you'd probably need to edit the app for new features (or include a config file with the kernel) but it seems like for you this would simplify the work greatly.

On the user side, user has one choice to download (not 8, 16, etc), it's set to stock vanilla, they can mess with it however they like after they have it installed, they know it works in vanilla mode, and will be more likely to experiment and change things back if they go wrong. They screw something up, kernel sees it's not booting, fixes itself to plain, and the user has confidence to do something else stupid ;)

I wouldn't imagine duplicating the scheduler code, battery max coding, and voltage code would add that much of a chunk to it.

Anyway, forgive me if this sounds idiotic, mass cold medicine has gotten me thinking about my phone and various improvements that can be made
[EVO 4G Android Development] mutant13:
I can get 2 days with moderate use as well, it all depends on what you do with the phone... but with moderate use after 14 hours I'm usually at about 50% at the end of the night... I do charge my phone every night cuz I like to have a full charge at the beginning of the day. Hope this helps
[EVO 4G Android Development] danman132x:
I don't see how some of you people are getting this amazing battery life. I'm using fresh 3.5.0.1 and nets 4.3.1 all latest radios, pri, prl, etc and with just moderate use my phone is at 10% or less after just 13 hours. This was with older versions also, and different rom's kernels etc.
[EVO 4G Android Development] gpz1100:
It would be helpful to know if people's indicated battery life is with the standard battery, or some other.

If you tweak the system enough, I think it is possible to get a decent day out of the stock battery though.

I'm at 70% remaining after 22 hrs with ~2hrs awake time on the extended battery. It's been a relatively light day today.

I'm using the kernel in my sig, with reduced voltage levels and conservative governor parameters tweaked though.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mildlydisturbed:
Don't use the latest pri/nv - go back to 1.77

Which 4.3.1? HAVS/NOHAVS?

Are you using anything to underclock/overclock?

I'm using 4.3.1 CFS HAVS SBC, 1.7x NV/PRI, and don't use anything to underclock when screen off.

Sprint Lovers ROM / Juicedefender (to manage radios)

HW 003, I think I can get a little near 48 hours before 0%, however I'm running a 3500mAh Seido innocell, so that would be 24 hours for regular.

Have you checked your uptimes to see if something is keeping your phone awake?
[EVO 4G Android Development] PhlaEVOr:
I switched to 1.77 I'm using 4.3.1 bfs no havs how should I go about charging?
[EVO 4G Android Development] flooberz:
I agree with you. I'm on pretty much the same setup.. cept i'm on 1.77 PRI/NV... pretty much the same battery life

however... i've found that if i'm connected to wifi, the batteryy life SKYROCKETS, which is what i started assuming people had on when they report battery life of days...

if i'm wrong lemme know though
[EVO 4G Android Development] macmill:
SetCPU

I have been using CFS NOSBC - HAVS.. Not to pleased with the battery results, I

enabled one profile "Screen off" and regular on "smartass".. I am going to try to

uninstall SetCPU off which, I have never done ever since I started using net, so

if anyone has great recommendations as to how to obtain great battery life

please shootat me, I would also love to hear Net's opinion on SetCPU on and off

and the results he got from it. I did try it on Fresh 3.5 and now on Myns. Both

with the same results. Overall, great kernal though very smooth. I do not want

to switch but if these results don't come back positive I might have to try

something new.

PLEASE let me know!!

Thanks guys!
[EVO 4G Android Development] doeboy711:
what are the best options for us HD 004 guys...I don't think I can use anything before 4.3 because of my camera driver. So what do all you 004 guys run, kernel and rom. I'm using the one's in my Sig and is doing good, Just trying out my options. Options are good!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] scottspa74:
Net, just wanna give you a huge thanks for your contributions. I started trying your kernels back when you released 3.76. I've tried lots of others, but always find the best results with yours. I just saw the DL page you have up now and it made me realize just how much you've developed for us all.

Thank you
[EVO 4G Android Development] Thedonk13:
Net, love the kernels btw! was curious if you plan on adding some code to the kernel to unlock the hidden r/w speeds of our sd cards?? the quick fix just isn't that sweet if it's not done automatically when i start the phone!
[EVO 4G Android Development] netarchy:
I just found out about the SD card speed issue/fix a few minutes ago. Looking into it for integration in the next build.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Thedonk13:
Thread high five!!! Net you are legen....wait for it....dary!!!