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[EVO 4G Accessories] devin.slick:
I was looking into cheap 32 gb cards and found a website called DHGate, a chinese bulk supplier.

Anyways...

Link

I was thinking of buying around 10 and reselling 8 or 9 online/locally.

What does everyone think?
[EVO 4G Accessories] jerryparid:
Most likely fake, try ebay instead. At least you will get ebay/paypal protection
[EVO 4G Accessories] AcIdC0R3:
I've purchased from them before. There a wholesaler so you're right you have to buy in bulk. There just like Alibaba. Those are only class 2 cards too. I found lowest price 32gb > class 2 for $72 on NewEgg and those others are $188 for 10. I would turn them over for $50 a pop and make a killin'.
[EVO 4G Accessories] krizno:
Why not make some cash I was thinking the same thing about the battery and charger thread ha ha.
[EVO 4G Accessories] realmrealm:
warning will robinson

Hey guys, I would read this:

http://www.419legal.org/fradulent-website/16378-dhgate-com-official.html

It looks like nothing but headaches from this company. Also looks like most/all stuff is counterfeit.

FYI

-AndyS-
[EVO 4G Accessories] AcIdC0R3:
That's strange. I ordered a bunch of memory from them before and I received it no problem. Of course it takes almost a month to reach you because of customs. I'll make sure not to do business with them again after seeing that. Thanks for the heads up.
[EVO 4G Accessories] halorin:
I just ordered one of these today:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260631752949

At best it's an incredible deal. At worst, I find out what it's like to go through the Paypal protection policy.
[EVO 4G Accessories] michaelvibe:
Nice, they even brand it as Sandisk. I have found that Paypal protection is excellent the two times I have ever had to deal with the,.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Bielinsk:
I am reminded of "If it is to good to be true..."
[EVO 4G Accessories] michaelvibe:
Yeah I was thinking the same thing, however, for $21 and a guarantee from both Ebay and Paypal...you really have nothing to lose.

The model number they quote on the page is the model number of the actual Sandisk chip, though they could have easily pulled that information from the website for their fake product. They also say it is a class 4 (yay!)

I'm thinking of trying them out just for the hell of it!
[EVO 4G Accessories] cpiddy:
Anything coming from china is fake. Thats why everything they sell is so cheap. If you think its real then your on crack. Dont buy anything from china.
[EVO 4G Accessories] SiL3nTKiLL:
amazon usually has pretty good deals on sdcardds
[EVO 4G Accessories] halorin:
Either way, I don't feel I have much to lose at 20 bucks. Even if PayPal falls through, my credit union will refund me outright because it's under 25 bucks and I wouldn't even have to return it.
[EVO 4G Accessories] amallama:
So how would we be able to tell if this is fake anyway?
[EVO 4G Accessories] gtkansan:
I just got mine in the mail. Will update with transfer speeds and impressions once I get home tonight.
[EVO 4G Accessories] ShadoX:
If you bought one of those $30 32gb MicroSD cards it is likely fake. It may appear to be 32gb when it is placed in your pc/phone but it will not correctly store data over its true capacity. If you could please use h2testw (google it) and run the full test to verify the authenticity of your card. I bought a Sandisk 32gb MicroSD from expansys and verified it using this program.

I would recommend you guys don't waste money on these cards as counterfeit items are huge in China. 32gb of the memory used inside these cards would probably be close to if not more then the cost you are paying. So apply a little common sense here.
[EVO 4G Accessories] gtkansan:
Ive never had any issues with china. Bought a kingston cruzer 200 128gb usb 2.0 drive for 29 dollars and it works as needed. 19 mb/s write speed and 25 read. Its a beast. And yes Ive tested its full capacity on multiple occasions. Works great.

As to your question, I have download your test software (h2testw) and am running it now. Will report when finished.

Initial tests with sdcard test on evo reports it as class 2, 3 mb/s write (not great, but it is large enough to compensate), but still getting a 12 mb/s read.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Biggest Fro:
Once you get over 2gb of stuff on the card report back if the files are broken or not.

I have heard that they show as 32gb, but once you pass 2gb the files become broken, and if you format the card it formats to 2gb.

It's a rip off.
[EVO 4G Accessories] gtkansan:
at 9 gb so far on the h2test2 program. no issues.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Ruggerxpunk:
Where exactly did you order that card from though? Was it the ebay link provided in this thread?
[EVO 4G Accessories] Rudementry:
I bought one. I'll probably forget about it until it shows up.
[EVO 4G Accessories] michaelvibe:
Are you kidding? Practically everything we use these days comes from China at point or another. Though I understand your logic lol....
[EVO 4G Accessories] michaelvibe:
Looking forward to this!
[EVO 4G Accessories] ShadoX:
Did you test the entire 32gb write/verify? Its the only way to be certain it is real.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Rudementry:
I bought this yesterday, today I got this email. I already paid for it and have not been refunded. Not cool.

MC999 eBay Listing Removed: (400237481)

Hello *********(******@****.com),

Please be aware that the following listing:

260631752949 - New 32GB Micro SD MicroSD Memory Card

has been removed by eBay for violating of one or more of our policies. Any offers or bids placed on this listing are now null and void. Because the auction was ended, you as a bidder are not required to complete the transaction.

For information about eBay's listing policies and user agreement go to:

http://pages.ebay.com.au/help/sell/policies.html

http://pages.ebay.com.au/help/policies/user-agreement.html

We're sorry for the inconvenience and thank you for your understanding.

Regards,

eBay Trust & Safety

H53882
[EVO 4G Accessories] halorin:
Got that too. First time I've ever seen anything like that. Not a big deal. I've already put my claim through with PayPal. That's what it's there for.
[EVO 4G Accessories] amallama:
yea me too....oh well i guessed it was too good to be true
[EVO 4G Accessories] denero1:
used dhgate all great every item i got was working maybe im lucky
[EVO 4G Accessories] RanEnRui:
Careful what you get from dhGate. There's tons of horror stories from them, however I believe that something like this should be relatively safe.

Kind of reminds me of back in the PSP heyday when tons of people had memory sticks that the PSP wouldn't recognize that weren't authentic.

Not saying that it's a scam, just saying be careful of anything suspicious or almost too good to be true.
[EVO 4G Accessories] AcIdC0R3:
Yeah, I never had a problem either with them. In the past I ordered memory from them at wholesale cost and made a killing on eBay with them. Flash media is a form of memory and two of the largest manufacturers of memory are based in China. If they allow payment through PayPal I would go that route as they have set up buyer protection and whatnot. If the 32gb flash media is bogus get with PayPal about getting your money back.

EDIT: Yep they now allow you to pay via PayPal. When I dealt with them before they hadn't setup PayPal yet. So there you go.
[EVO 4G Accessories] AcIdC0R3:
Hey dude, if you do buy a lot of ten from them I'll buy one off from you.
[EVO 4G Accessories] notmike:
My brother ordered one of these fake Sandisk 32gb cards for his evo on ebay, only paid $21. A day or so later he got an email from ebay saying the listing had been removed (like you guys got..) BUT a week later his card showed up, it looked completely authentic.. it formatted as 32gb.. HOWEVER he can't get any movies to work on his card, I can copy a movie to my evo using the same mvideoplayer and they play fine, copy to his and they don't work, tried reformatting and everything.. The first movie he copied worked fine, it was only after we loaded up 5gb of movies or so that it stopped working right.

To make it worse, after the card stopped working so did the phone, all sorts of unexplainable touch screen issues, the phone seemed to have a mind of it's own, took it to sprint and now they are shipping him a new one.. We'll see if his ebay sd card works better in the new phone, I'll update you.
[EVO 4G Accessories] michaelvibe:
How does a papal claim work outside of eBay. I have never tried one before. It says on there policy that your payment refund is not guaranteed outside of ebay :-(
[EVO 4G Accessories] IAMCLP1:
Right from the website under "contact us" very frist email offered

For brand infringement complaints, please contact us at patrol@dhgate.com.

Hahaha, very very risky ... what type of business is this :cool:
[EVO 4G Accessories] taarzaan:
I'll order one from dhgate this weekend and will report my experience. (in about 2-4 weeks :) )
[EVO 4G Accessories] AcIdC0R3:
I hope that you know that they sell by the lot. One lot equals 10 cards.
[EVO 4G Accessories] snake411:
I got a fake too, and the same thing happened, still waiting on paypal for refund

*This was posted from my Evo 4G*
[EVO 4G Accessories] Philosuffer:
Same here, count me in for one if you end up buying OP.
[EVO 4G Accessories] AcIdC0R3:
Those that are interested in the dhgate 32gb cards but are unsure of them and not want to shell out $180 for a lot of ten then I found where they sell individually.

HERE and HERE

For those prices for a 32gb card I wouldn't be real worried if it didn't work and trying to get my money back. That's cheap enough to just say the hell with it and I won't ever deal with them again. Once again I might mention that I have bought memory from them in the past and everything went smooth. $18 for a 32gb card does sound a bit fishy but it's cheap enough to just say ahhhh the hell with it, why not.
[EVO 4G Accessories] michaelvibe:
I am going to check this out as well. Let us know if you get a good card or not.

On another note, when you checked out did you pay through DHGate or Paypal?
[EVO 4G Accessories] ifly4vamerica:
For those of you who got a bad card check out this I just posted and you can tell for sure. I used this info and was refunded immediately from paypal, didn't even have to send the card back. Not sure if your experience will be the same though.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=7261039#post7261039
[EVO 4G Accessories] AcIdC0R3:
I haven't bought yet but I'm going to. When I do it will be through PayPal so I'm halfway protected and I don't have to give any of my info out to them.
[EVO 4G Accessories] drbgotenks:
I would recomend using an American Express (blue) card when buying online. Even with paypal/ebay protection. If you have an issue, you click on the charge on your online statement (though americanexpress.com). They take the charge off your credit card, and they deal with paypal/ebay/seller to correct the problem. If amex can't correct it (get you a working product, etc) you are not responsible and they do not put the charge back on your credit card.

It is the best protection. I have used it many times (I try a lot of those 'to good to be true' deals.).
[EVO 4G Accessories] LionAR10:
I recently got scammed on a 32G card from eBay ... eBay shut down the seller's account due to fraud and said they'd refund my money, but I have yet to see it.
[EVO 4G Accessories] AcIdC0R3:
eBay and PayPal are good at getting your money back but it does take quiet a bit of time to get it back.
[EVO 4G Accessories] michaelvibe:
Oh nice, didn't realize this.

I have actually just started using my Blue card for electronics purchases because I found out that they automatically extend the warranty, which is amazing.
[EVO 4G Accessories] JaxDomino:
It's a marketplace not a person

It's up to the person to be honest and send your items. I order NFL jerseys from them and have had not problem. They are very willing to work with you.
[EVO 4G Accessories] echoside:
I have ordered a few things from dhgate and have not had any issues. Although if your expecting authentic items do not buy from there.
[EVO 4G Accessories] raptoreb:
Quite a while ago with my 6700, I was looking at cheap knockoff mini SD cards and the consensus here and the other major ppc/winmo forums was a lot of them had the header part of the card edited with a hex editor or something to read higher but as soon as you tried to use more space then the card had it crapped out, and could screw up whatever system was writing to it too. They could also be very unstable. It's exceedingly unlikely to be more then a scam. Just my experience.
[EVO 4G Accessories] ilordvader:
Are these for real Class 4 :confused:

are there any Class 6 yet ?

3C Pro 32GB 32G microSD

TOPRAM 32GB 32G microSD
[EVO 4G Accessories] AcIdC0R3:
Well, I threw down $18 for a 32gb micro sdhc at dhgate. I mean I've bought memory from them before for pennies on the dollar and didn't have a single problem with them. So since the hype is so high as to not buy from China which is a farce as two of the three leading manufacturers of memory in the world are based in China. When I get it I'll test it to see if it works. Whatever the outcome I'll let you guys know. Of course it takes three weeks to have it shipped to the US because of customs.

Cheers...
[EVO 4G Accessories] M@XLOL:
If you could somehow remember to PM me I would be very interested in this information. Ill try to remember to check this thread :p
[EVO 4G Accessories] AcIdC0R3:
No problem, I can do that.
[EVO 4G Accessories] halorin:
Funny story. I put in the claim with Paypal but it didn't go my way because the only bit of evidence I had was the eBay message I got. I was mad, but it's only 20 bucks so I just let it go.

Check my mailbox today, and sure enough the SD card arrived. After like, 2 months. Popped it in the phone, said I had 29GB free.

I copied all the stuff from my 8GB card to my computer to copy to the new card. It all copied fine, but it took a while. I don't have any confidence that this is a Class 4 card, but everything copied. It says it has 23GB free now.

I don't have enough data handy to try to fill up the card since I'm at work, but who knows. Maybe this'll work out.
[EVO 4G Accessories] nhutpham:
Nice, which card did you order, the 18 dollar one from dhgate?
[EVO 4G Accessories] halorin:
I don't remember exactly who it came from. It was a WHILE back I ordered this thing. I just know the eBay page got closed out the day after I ordered it, so I put in the claim to get my money back thinking I would never actually get it in the mail, bootleg or not.

I spent the past couple of hours formatting it in Windows just to start off fresh, and I still registered as 29.2 GB available. I'll start loading it up and see what happens, I guess.
[EVO 4G Accessories] AcIdC0R3:
Have you tested it with H2test? You should make sure you are able to write to all sectors of the card. It could be a 4 or 8 or even a 16gb card. You wont really know until you are able to write to all sectors of the card. You don't want be out and about and try and save to the card and it won't let you. Here is the H2test software to test it...
[EVO 4G Accessories] halorin:
I'll try it when I get home, then.
[EVO 4G Accessories] KSUJedi:
Any update on how the cheapo card is working out & holding up? Has it proven to be a 32gb card?
[EVO 4G Accessories] AcIdC0R3:
I'm still waiting for it to come in. When I get it I'll test it and let everyone know.
[EVO 4G Accessories] AcIdC0R3:
I would still use H2test to write to every sector to be sure. The header could report it as a 32gb card but you may only be able to write to 4gb. A format may not actually let you know for sure.
[EVO 4G Accessories] rugedraw:
I ordered one of the $18 dhgate cards a while back. They actually told me it was a class 6 card, but I also noticed it was a slow process to write to it. Mine also said 29 free and about 23 after I copied all info from my OEM card over to it.

However, a lot of things stopped working right on my phone, and eventually the touch screen stopped working all together. I have pull out the battery, to turn it off, I put the battery back in and the phone was still useless.

As soon as I put the OEM card back in, the phone went back to normal.

I have ordered a lot of things from dhgate, and this is the first time I was not satisfied. With that said, order from there at your own risk, but I am still a fan of dhgate. I won't allow one bad experience to change my opinion on them.
[EVO 4G Accessories] AcIdC0R3:
Did you contact dhgate and ask to have it replaced. It could be just a bad card. After two failures then I would not order one from them again.

Sent from my EVIL EVO using the XDA app.
[EVO 4G Accessories] AcIdC0R3:
I don't know why they would say it's a class 6. It says in the specs that it's a version 2.0 which just means it's a class 2 card.

Sent from my EVIL EVO using the XDA app.
[EVO 4G Accessories] VW91N3:
Yeh. The fakes will do that. Sit there going through all the motions of copying whatever you have "room" for, tell you everything's fine. Until you try to read any of it, and find "file not found".

At least the cheap price means it didn't get shoved in too deeply.

Do a quick Google for "ebay fake memory". The bucket comes back overflowing.
[EVO 4G Accessories] AcIdC0R3:
That's why I use H2test because it writes to the whole card then verifies it. For a 32gb card it may take a while but it's worth it.

Sent from my EVIL EVO using the XDA app.
[EVO 4G Accessories] rugedraw:
The one I bought didn't say 2.0, and I ordered mine long before I ever saw this thread. Here is the link to the one I got:

http://www.dhgate.com/p_ff80808128ed99fd012903f75c256b29.html

No, I didn't ask for a replacement. I am going to send them an email now, just out of curiosity as to what they tell me.
[EVO 4G Accessories] AcIdC0R3:
Yep, that's the same one I ordered. It says in the specs that it's a v2.0.

Sent from my EVIL EVO using the XDA app.
[EVO 4G Accessories] rugedraw:
Oh.....you're right. I missed that previously. Since I didn't see that initially, I asked the seller what class it was once I received it. They replied it was a Class 6. I knew that wasn't true, because the write speed to it was very slow. However, if it would have worked right, I'd a been happy with a Class 2 and 32 gigs. I have a lot of music I can't fit into my 8 gig and I use the mp3 player a lot at work and while driving.

I refuse to pay $100 for one, though.
[EVO 4G Accessories] AcIdC0R3:
$100 for a 32gb class 2 is about normal for US dollars. Buy.com has class 4 cards from Topram for $130.

Sent from my EVIL EVO using the XDA app.
[EVO 4G Accessories] goodelyfe:
is top ram even legit?
[EVO 4G Accessories] AcIdC0R3:
Yeah, I have a friend that bought one for his Incredible. I just called him and asked him about it. He said he has about 26gb filled with apps, music and videos. He said he bought it at Buy.com.

Sent from my EVIL EVO using the XDA app.
[EVO 4G Accessories] goodelyfe:
**** me running and i just ordered the sandisk class 2

blah!!!!!!!!!!!1
[EVO 4G Accessories] AcIdC0R3:
How much did you throw down on it?

Sent from my EVIL EVO using the XDA app.
[EVO 4G Accessories] AcIdC0R3:
Just go to Buy.com and do a search for '32gb micro sdhc'.

Sent from my EVIL EVO using the XDA app.
[EVO 4G Accessories] goodelyfe:
99 bucks and overnight shipping. verizon
[EVO 4G Accessories] AcIdC0R3:
That's about right for USD and a class 4 for about $130.

Sent from my EVIL EVO using the XDA app.
[EVO 4G Accessories] goodelyfe:
yea i know, but whas a few more bucks for a lil speed.

i just didnt pull the trigger on topram cuz i never really heard of them.... i had been seen them just was a lil anxious
[EVO 4G Accessories] AcIdC0R3:
HERE is their website if you want to check into them some more.
[EVO 4G Accessories] rugedraw:
Update on my scenario:

The seller agreed to refund me $5 and I keep the faulty card from dhgate, or if I send it back to them they give me a full refund. All in all, I can't complain because the listing clearly states returns must be done within 7 days and its been about a month that I've had it.

I'll return it and get my $$$ back and use it towards getting a better quality one. I'm a check out TopRam and see if I give them a shot.
[EVO 4G Accessories] AcIdC0R3:
If mine from dhgate fails I'm probably going to go with the Topram class 4 too.
[EVO 4G Accessories] goodelyfe:
damnit i may just buy the topram too

lol cant help myself
[EVO 4G Accessories] AcIdC0R3:
Weird, dhgate sends it Registered mail. I was at work today and missed it. I'll pick it up in the morning and then run h2test on it and see if it is good or ****. I'll let you guys know no matter what the outcome. This will seal the deal as to whether they are fake or not and everybody can make a decision. One person so far has gotten one and it had some issues. It could have been fake or just a faulty card. If mine fails then we'll know for sure. I'm really not worried as I only threw down $18 for it. That's pocket change. So anyways, I'll report back tomorrow.

Cheers...
[EVO 4G Accessories] John Kotches:
I got a counterfeit SanDisk which wasn't at a "stupid low" price on ebay.

Every time I would get above 4gb all the data would get corrupted. When I tried to contact the seller the account had been closed. Fortunately, the resolution center did their job and I was refunded promptly upon receipt at the sellers address of record.

The silk screening on the card was rubbing off was the giveaway that it was fake. It was in sandisk packaging (chinese) and my chinese language skills are nonexistent...

I ordered a sandisk through amazon ($100 + shipping) and it should be here today.

I'll post back with my results after the weekend if it arrives today.
[EVO 4G Accessories] AcIdC0R3:
I went to the post office and picked up my registered mail (32gb card) this morning. As soon as I got home, upon opening the package noticed it was in generic packaging, yet the micro sdhc and the included adapter were marked SanDisk. The sticker on the adapter was a little crooked. The screening on the micro card itself did not rub off though like the person on the previous post mentioned. (Thanks John for letting us know as I tested the silk screen on mine too.) I pulled out a magnifying glass and took a closer look. It says SanDisk 32gb SDHC class 4. WOW! Of course the adapter didn't work. I have like four adapters for micro HC cards and none of them work. That's why I bought the elago Mobile Nano II USB 2.0 microSDHC Flash Memory Card Reader a while back so as to read these kind of cards. It's actually about the size of my thumbnail. So far it's read every card I've thrown at it. I'm posting the screen shot I took when I started testing it using H2test. Now I just have to wait 5 1/2 hours for it to complete. This one is writing anywhere from 1.37 to 1.40 MB/s. According to the SD Association, these are the speeds that these classes should write at below.

* Class 2: 2 MB/s

* Class 4: 4 MB/s

* Class 6: 6 MB/s

I don't know what the limitation of my USB adapter is at so it could be preventing it from going 4MB/s. Well, here is the screen shot and I'll report back when it's complete.
[EVO 4G Accessories] AcIdC0R3:
Here is a screen shot of a finished test on the 8gb card that came with the EVO using H2test. I guess my 32gb card might actually be a class 1 or class 2, not class 4 like it says on it.
[EVO 4G Accessories] John Kotches:
I will probably just shove it into an adapter and let it copy over night tonight assuming it's in my mail box.
[EVO 4G Accessories] AcIdC0R3:
Well after 2.9 gb it started having data corruption while it was verifying. That sux. I guess I'll have to go with the Topram card.
[EVO 4G Accessories] ilordvader:
Scan Disk dont make a Class 4

all 32gb is class 2

you can confirm it with Scandisk

I did
[EVO 4G Accessories] goodelyfe:
Acid, you gonna bit the bullet and get the topram class 4?