[Galaxy S I9000 General] andrewluecke:
You are right, it's not trolling, except in his case.

HE said "poor GPS was what held him back" BEFORE he even purchased this thing. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF HIS POSTS IS WHINGING ABOUT THE GPS. Why would you buy a phone with known GPS issues if GPS is THAT important? They clearly intended to have a whinge and return it.

There IS an issue. But what he said implies he is some kind of expert. He basically says that it's an antenna design fault. He doesn't know. It might not be, but nobody here knows.

I agree, but they might suspect it's software. Maybe thats why they were quick to announce Froyo. They probably have a good idea of what's causing it, but it's probably a number of issues. Once again though, they have also been fixing lots of other things (such as the battery indicator to use the notification system, because it annoyed people before). They also possibly wanted to target Froyo.

Or, they may have just shipped it knowing there was a hardware flaw..

There is no reason to integrate code which isn't complete, and might lead to NO GPS in some builds (better not to break too much at once). They might be working on the GPS drivers in a separate branch of their code. I wouldn't draw conclusions from these firmware releases. We don't have the big picture. Branches during development is commonplace.. Anyway, they might not be fixing it, but we have no way of knowing.

Agreed, but once again, that can be software or hardware issues. Yes it could be hardware, but either way, if it is, most of us are protected by consumer laws that would entitle us to a refund. And if not, lawsuit. My issue is that people are running around saying "stfu guys, it's hardware, end of story", without sufficient insight to be able to make such claims. And sorry, but that's just crap. People are entitled to an opinion, but people shouldn't treat others like only they know what they are talking about, when they are guessing like everyone else.

Might be, might not.. But sick of hearing people say it's definitely hardware.. Samsung have acknowledged that there is an issue though already, and that is only 2 months in.

Have they really though? They have now set a date, and they didn't do that before (I think). So September will be make-or-break for Samsung. If they don't go good on their promise, we all will be returning our phones (because we know they were deceiving us for sure then).

That's probably just a marketing thing. Software companies release "patches" not "fixes". Or "service packs". It's commonplace in the software industry. Once again though, we are all guessing.. I don't assume it will fix it, I simply ask people to give Samsung the benefit of the doubt that it MIGHT fix it.

Some people are telling others it can't be fixed and that the update wont work, with no evidence.

Anyway, in summary, I rarely get that annoyed, but honestly, Beowulf kept telling everyone they were wrong and for some strange reason is acting as though he has confirmation it's hardware. There is insufficient information for any of us to create even a semi-informed conclusion as to whether it is fixable by software and I simply ask that the discussion is treated as such. None of us know the truth, and if people aren't willing to wait for Samsung, it's fair they return your phone (as you said, this should have been caught by QA).

But, some people seem to be running a campaign to destroy Samsung, by making claims which are based merely on observation, rather than proven facts.