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[EVO 4G Android Development] SilentSummer:
Good Points. I changed back to on-demand vs. performance.

However I don't see the point of adding Batt <100% and Chargin/Full as the main setting should cover anything not put in as profile.
[EVO 4G Android Development] tatnai:
the batt <100 is my main setting (i don't have it set to start on boot - i just manage it from profile; this way I can prioritize it BELOW sleep, temp, everything else). the charging/full is not redundant, as when I plug in at 15%, I want my max to be 1.15, not 0.8 (as it would be due to battery percentage).
[EVO 4G Android Development] stylz3:
How can you tell if your device supports 5pt instead of 3pt.
[EVO 4G Android Development] MrDSL:
Download Dotty from the market..i have 5..i suppose thats better than 3 but i doubt i need it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] stylz3:
Ok I downloaded it and tested. I got 3pt
[EVO 4G Android Development] beastmods:
Just wanted to say good job developer. I have tried almost all of the recent kernels for the EVO.

This has done a great job. I miss the 1.19 overclock. I saw no problem with it unless i tried to use JIT.

But seems to work good for the most part. stays at 55fps better with overclock than without.

I will check back in. For now i am wanting to see the final cyanogen mod.. says he has both cams in FROYO!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] sracercelica:
I have been having problems watching videos since installing this kernel. The video will play fine for a minute or two then it will freeze and cause the phone to freeze. Afterwards if I turn off the screen it won't turn back on. Only happens with videos.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jerryparid:
3.6.4 Kernel is killing my battery.

With 40 minutes of GPS, 20 minutes of browsing, 4 hours of idle. My battery died.

Reverting back to stock for now (or waiting for CM6 to drop today)

;-<
[EVO 4G Android Development] frank828:
im getting about avg 41fps Fps2DS on a nova screen. is this typical?
[EVO 4G Android Development] sracercelica:
Also I'm still having the problem where my T2 settings always revert to 429.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Reanimatedshad0w:
So all overclocking profiles are being made with setcpu? Thats the only way to lower the stdv correct?

I current have a avg of 54 fps and a stdv of 11.4. Would it be a drastic difference if i overclock to cut that stdv in half?
[EVO 4G Android Development] criccio:
Hmm, seems my early 0002 Nova has a 5-point sensor. Not sure why this matters though...
[EVO 4G Android Development] netarchy:
Were you overclocking?

Using setcpu with the governor maybe set to performance instead of on demand?

What were you using that used the gps? Maybe it stayed running in the background and kept the gps active (which uses a decent amount of juice)
[EVO 4G Android Development] netarchy:
Don't get too preoccupied on the stdev if you benchmark with setcpu set to ondemand intead of performance. There are a lot of factors in scaling behavior that can influence your numbers, such as the sampling rate setcpu uses, and the load threshold you have set, your profiles, etc. (I use 50,000 for sampling and 70 for threshold atm personally)

Some of the variance will be due to the fact that the cpu speed is scaling based on the load being thrown at it. It's unavoidable simply by the nature of scaling cpu speed instead of running it at full all the time (which would be *really* bad for power, even the stock kernel scales the speed based on load).
[EVO 4G Android Development] CarpeD1em500:
I just wanna personally thank you for this guide. I followed it perfectly and my phone is awesome right now....thanks so much.

Now that I've dumped Sense, can y'all give me a quick (1 post is fine, dont wanna thread jack) list of what I should be aware of using Launcher Pro, where to find widgets, etc... Just anything I should *know* moving forward.

Thanks in advance. And thanks to everyone else posting CPU settings and what not..

(also, I have HW: 003, Nova screen, 5 point multi - if anyone wants to replicate these steps, they work with that combo!)
[EVO 4G Android Development] Reanimatedshad0w:
So I'm running the latest fresh and having 54 avg fps and stdev=4.27 using a profile that was posted on here. Everything is really smooth :), I forgot how smooth 60fps is(from ps3/xbox games)

So thanks again for all the good work :). I can't imagine going back to the normal stock phone after reading up on rooting and doing everything :).

Just a bit nervous with the setcpu scene. I set everything at "on-demand". Just over clocking a cpu in a phone has me a bit edgy. Is there anything that I should look out for?

Beautiful widgets can help you out a bit on the marketplace. Help you get a nice weather widget+time along with a few others.

Extended controls/switchpro widget is pretty nice. Helps having a small panel with widgets.

Pure calendger widget can replace the calender from sense.

In regards to launcher pro, I'm still a bit new on this scene as well so I'm sure someone else can help you out. Best route when it comes to new launchers/os, just play around with it and get familiar with it. For other widgets, look at the general thread for people who post screen shots, thats how i found most of my widgets as well. :)

gl
[EVO 4G Android Development] EtherealRemnant:
So are there any improvements to Epson panels over 3.5? I've been running 3.5 and its been running flawlessly.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mikevillarroel:
Can someone tell me if this setting are good for SetCpu to get more battery life?
[EVO 4G Android Development] tatnai:
if you want best battery life would drop your minimum down to 245 for ALL profiles, main setting
[EVO 4G Android Development] jayv1717:
my min is 128
[EVO 4G Android Development] mikevillarroel:
Like that? Sorry if iI sound like a noob, it's because I'm one, lol
[EVO 4G Android Development] beastmods:
What is a way to tell if my phone is actually getting undervolted while inactive.

or any way at all to know that it is working..

i am on a never ending quest to get the best battery life.
[EVO 4G Android Development] tatnai:
yep, like that. would not recommend 128 as it has been known to cause issues for some. see my prior posts if you want to see my profiles, other setcpu advice.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mikevillarroel:
I will thank you, this is all new to me, i was using overclock widget, but i see more people talking about setcpu so i decided to jump, another thing, this play well with Advanced task Killer? Do i need the Task killer at all?

**EDIT**

I just copied your setting from HERE

Let's see how it goes!
[EVO 4G Android Development] beastmods:
yeah my phone was real pissy when waking and unlocking at 128
[EVO 4G Android Development] nuetron:
Is there a tun.ko module that will work with this kernel for VPN? Thanks.
[EVO 4G Android Development] js2393:
HTC EVO 4G

HW003

Novatek

Baked Snack 9.6 ROM

FPS2D Results:

Before: avg= consistently 30, stdev=5

After 3.6.4: avg= consistently 54, stdev=12

After 3.6.3: avg=50-54, stdev=12-14
[EVO 4G Android Development] netarchy:
Added one to the first post, check the bottom.
[EVO 4G Android Development] URABUS0924:
What exactly is different between the regular kernal and the dc specific one? I'm running dc 3.2.3 and the non-dc specific kernel gives me a more consistant fps (not much, its usually a rock solid 54 while the dc specific kernel varies from 52-54) I didn't really test much of the other things out so does the regular version break certain things in dc that the dc-specific one fixes?
[EVO 4G Android Development] netarchy:
The non-dc kernel will not support many of the custom features of DC, such as the majority (if not all) the options you can set in dconfig

These features require a custom ramdisk from the DC release for the kernel in order to not break certain functionality.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Calkulin:
You can actually use 460MHz since that uses the same voltage as 128/245MHz
[EVO 4G Android Development] KingChilly:
sorry if this has been answered but i read through about 20 pages and havent seen an answer. Is there anyway to use 3.6.4 with a2sd?
[EVO 4G Android Development] jerryparid:
No, SetCPU is not installed.

Google Navigation was running. GPS was disabled and the task was killed.

I charged the phone to max, then battery dropped by 40% in 3-4 hours. Maybe I'll try a full wipe.

Is this the default kernel for CM6?
[EVO 4G Android Development] schottjy:
Fastbooted 3.6.4 on my #02 NOVA. Seeing ~54fps with Fps2d. Seeing some

small tearing? playing Speedx 3D.

However, Dotty refuses to see more than 2 point multitouch. FWIW:

# cat /sys/android_touch/vendor

ATMEL_x004F_x0016

Any ideas?
[EVO 4G Android Development] nuetron:
Works perfectly. Thank you very much.
[EVO 4G Android Development] scooter185:
using the Froyo version, but figure it's relevant here too.

avg: 52; stdev: 7.14; 5 points in dotty

Very happy. great work!
[EVO 4G Android Development] tehpsyc:
Does anyone else hear a clicking sound when they turn on the camera with the kernel? Its a faint sound that I never noticed before with the stock kernel, but now whenever the camera engages or stops I hear a click coming from the back of the phone. Perhaps its just my phone but I'm curious if anyone else is experiencing this.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Land Master:
Everyone ignored me because I was a douche and missed/didn't search. I corrected my post (about 5-10 pages back) because a search in this thread for "apps2sd" provided the required answer.

Which by the way is apparently NO.
[EVO 4G Android Development] fr4nk1yn:
I hear the click too but I've heard in on my previous phone too. I think while using Camera360.

This is pretty cool work BTW, haven't checked the FPS but I have OC'd (:
[EVO 4G Android Development] Land Master:
nOOb question...Where do we place (or otherwise do with) the posted file?

TIA..
[EVO 4G Android Development] ilovemytilt1:
This is normal to my knowledge. I think its the camera's sensor turning on or something along those lines.
[EVO 4G Android Development] SPENONE:
Something odd i noticed was with the weather effects.

In the actual weather demo mode, the rain effect, with the windshield wiper, it's animation is very choppy; but on my home screen today (it's raining a bit), the animation plays smooth (with the FIX of coarse). Any idea why?

Not a big issue, just curious to know.

002 Nova-Baked Snack-55fps:gears/fps2d
[EVO 4G Android Development] lolz mclollerson:
Getting 3 touch points, with Fresh 1.0.1 and the Samdroid JIT with an OC to 1152 I'm getting 700+ in Quadrant, 53 fps in fps2d, and about 20 MFLOPS. Thanks!

Epson screen btw.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ilovemytilt1:
Where is this audio boost I tried searching Google, here, and the market but I'm getting all thus other crap.
[EVO 4G Android Development] criccio:
How bad is it to have a 11.5-12 standard deviation in fps2d? I'm getting 54fps average but my stdev seems a bit high.
[EVO 4G Android Development] gman8966:
On 3.6.4, my phone was running hot and the battery died quickly, switched back to 3.6.3, and it's back at normal temperature.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nol3n:
I get about the same...but I used to get 5 points with 3.5. Not necessary, but kinda cool to show off...
[EVO 4G Android Development] Success100:
4-7 stdev is the sweet spot. 11-12 stdev is pretty high.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jabbawalkee:
Okay so I flashed the Revision 3.6.4 (General Pop. Build) for Nova panel users on top of Fresh v1.0.1 and I'm having issues with Wi-Fi. It must be said that I am no noob and I know what I'm doing. Wi-Fi turns on just fine, but it won't actually connect to a network (even when I'm standing right next to the wireless router). Any ideas?
[EVO 4G Android Development] netarchy:
That should go in /system/lib/modules on the phone if you're needing tun.ko for vpn stuff.
[EVO 4G Android Development] netarchy:
Actually it's not as bad as you might think, and it's probably easy to address as a bonus.

What you'll probably notice when benchmarking in fps2d is that you'll typically get a relatively low stdev if you have the cpu set to performance in setcpu (that is, you're making the cpu run at full speed while you benchmark) while you'll likely see stdev INCREASE a bit when you set the speed governor back to ondemand.

This is a side effect of cpu scaling in general, and in some cases could indicate that there is perhaps some room for improvement in setcpu settings to better tune the scaling adjustment. Lowering the sampling rate and/or threshold in setcpu can have a fairly significant impact in how quickly the cpu speed ramps up to higher frequencies on load, at the cost of a little more battery drain.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Land Master:
Thanks! Great work btw!
[EVO 4G Android Development] mizerab1e:
Okay guys, I've been testing this kernel all day using 3.6.3 on DC 3.2 and I noticed when I start the phone and run FPS2D, I get 55 FPS and 5~7 dev, but once I play a game (robo defense) and then run FPS2D, it gets capped around 40~45 FPS with 10~12 dev and until I restart the phone, nothing will bring it back to the original 55FPS 5~7dev. Can anyone explain to me why this happpens and if there is anything I can do about it?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Zac Kyoti:
Hey netarchy: First, thank you so much (and the other devs) for the work leading to this kernel. Top-notch!

Anyhow, a couple questions: The 3.5.0 version of this kernel is very snappy, for general feel I like it better than the others. There seems to be occasional lag on touch input though.

The newer versions play well with DC, but the frame rate has significantly dropped (though stdevs are better). I'm also noticing some flickering of the stock browser status bar when loading pages (3.6.4).

What's the deal with these variations and why is it some folks with the same hardware/rom/kernel versions as me are getting better results? Is there any way to combine the peppyness of 3.5.0 with the revisions in 3.6.4 DC build?

I'm EVO version 0003, Epson screen, 5-point capable, DC 3.2.3

3.5.0 kernel: avg 54 fps, stdev ~10 (fps2d), ~53 fps (Gears) - very consistent results

3.6.4 DC kernel: avg 40-50 fps, stdev~8-12 (fps2d), ~42 fps (Gears) - not consistent results

If any one wants to chime in on any settings I can make to improve things please do. Thanks!
[EVO 4G Android Development] bhtoque:
I've been running on this kernel for a couple days (stock rooted rom) with no issues afaik, but I only get an improvement in 2d FPS. Gears and FPS2d give me mid 50's but I only hit mid 20's on neocore (26.3 tops so far)

Just installed evo switch and set to 400, but same results. Any suggestions. Read through 50+ pages in this thread, but did not find anybody else posting similar results.

Thanks,

JAson
[EVO 4G Android Development] jayv1717:
not much to say..you won't see much improvement with 3d thanks to the weak gpu snapdragon has...sucks i know
[EVO 4G Android Development] EtherealRemnant:
I think it is hilarious that qualcomm MADE Neocore yet not a single qualcomm device can pass the late 20 fps mark....
[EVO 4G Android Development] netarchy:
What rom were you using when you ran 3.5.0 ?
[EVO 4G Android Development] netarchy:
Neocore is not a benchmark you want to use to see the framerate improvements in 3d. Neocore benchmarks around 27 even on the nexus one, which uses the same cpu/gpu and is not capped by default.

What happens in Neocore is the gpu is essentially hitting a fillrate wall which is what limits the total score.

Try using something like gears.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bhtoque:
Thanks for the quick replies. I was just expecting to see an improvement with all the benchmark apps. Figured I did something wrong, or missed a setting.

Big switch coming from an LG Dare to the EVO. 8)

I really appreciate all your work on this kernel.

JAson
[EVO 4G Android Development] dudewithnofood:
flashed netarchy-toastmod-3.6.4-dc-compatible-signed over dc 3.2.3 with a nova panel and this is what i get without further adjustments or tweaks:

fps2d usually 50+ even though it can take it a few seconds to get there

wifi works (it didn't before! it would connect to networks but i couldnt connect to the interwebs)

camera works

5 touchpoints in dotty

it is smooth as butter

thank you!

Edit: flashed with amon-ra
[EVO 4G Android Development] tatnai:
yeah, I don't know what the deal is. I have 003 Epson, latest software/radios, running DC 3.2.3, I can only get 44 fps on the DC compatible 3.6.4, and it is definitely not as smooth as the standard 3.6.4. I had similar results with dc compatible 3.6.3. I just can't use them. so I forgo all the dc compatible stuff. . . maybe i'll try again, reset dc config after loading the compatible kernel. maybe it is my battery saver profile causing the grief. hmm.
[EVO 4G Android Development] netarchy:
I would be most interested in knowing if it is indeed the battery saver profile that is killing the framerate. Definitely let me know if that does it, as then we will know the culprit behind the differences.

Sent from my Evo4g with tapatalk
[EVO 4G Android Development] jblazea50:
For dc rom with battery saver, the stdev will be higher, but I haven't noticed a lower fps. I can get about 53fps stdev 8-9 on the battery saver option. If on the battery/performance, the stdev goes to about 5-6.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Crackbone:
After running several iterations with different battery profiles, I'd have to say that the battery saver option gives you 4-6 fps less on average, with a higher std deviation.

However, it's still a helluva lot better than being capped @ 29-30.
[EVO 4G Android Development] tatnai:
that would seem to do the trick for me.

003 epson dc 3.2.3; did at least three tests in each profile.

Battery saver

fps 43-44 (starts out at 55 avg, and just drops)

stdev 13-24

Performance

fps 53-55

stdev 8-9

Equal batt/performance

fps 46-51

stdev 9-12

so i get identical fps with performance in the dc specific one as I do with the standard release. subjectively, still seems a touch laggier swiping screens and such, this could definitely be in my head though.

EDIT: after flashing back and forth (many, many times) between dc mod 3.6.4 on performance, and standard 3.6.4, I think there is a touch lag difference. If I decrease the Up Threshold to 20 it seems to decrease the lag of the dc version to be on part with the standard. once again, reserving the right to be called crazy on this one.

EDIT2: I don't think the up threshold is the only difference between standard 3.6.4 and dc 3.6.4 w/ performance. netarchy, do you know the standard settings for all the DC stuff as it is build into the kernel - would like to test knowing I have the exact same settings, as I think even with adjusting the up threshold to 20 on the dc 3.6.4, the standard 3.6.4 is a touch smoother.

EDIT3: ok, i think i'm going crazy. i don't think I can notice a difference between performance setting on dc compat 3.6.4 and standard 3.6.4. and that's my final answer.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mrmoeb:
Glad I could help! Have been using Launcher Pro for a bit now and starting to really enjoy it vs. stock sense-ui . Only drawback is lack of HTC widgets for enabling/disabling data , wifi and 4G.
[EVO 4G Android Development] PhantomApollyon:
Just pick up Beautiful Widgets from the marketplace and your good to go :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] netarchy:
Sadly I do not know the standard settings for DC, and they are not built into the kernel. What happens in DC is on bootup, there are scripts in the ramdisk (read: inits) that is included alongside the kernel (for the record, the kernel itself is exactly the same in both the DC compatible package and the standard package, only the ramdisk is different) that go through any options set in dconfig and apply them to the system.
[EVO 4G Android Development] hx3:
I started using the SwitchPro widget ($0.99 or $1.99 on the market, I forget) since I disabled Sense. Works great and has several items for enabling and disabling, including 4G.

Back on topic, though...I, too, have been experiencing slowdowns when using the DC compatible kernal. I've also seen some very slight tearing every once in a while when scrolling through home screens. Running DC 3.2.3 with kernal 3.6.4 DC compatible. I was seeing better overall results with 3.5.1. Here's my current settings and benchmarks:

fps2d: After a second run, I'm getting 51fps and 9.56 stdev

Linpack: 9.598 mflops

dotty: 5point

JIT Casual (Sense banned) /w default settings in DConfig

Overclock Widget running at stock speed, underclocked to 245 when screen is off

Screen: Epson 003 hardware

However, I never came across any problems when using a non-DC compatible kernal on DC 3.2.3 and everything seemed much smoother. Although some of us are having slight problems with the DC kernals, I want to thank netarchy immensely...your work has made our devices so much better. I look forward to using your future releases.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Kabump:
After trying just about everything else to get this to flash over Fresh, Ive decided to do a nandroid backup (which seem to work again once I reflash Fresh 1.0.1 rom over the bootloop) and start completely from scratch. Tried a number of things over the last day and a half and still can get nothing but boot loops on fresh 1.0.1 Ill report back on how this goes!
[EVO 4G Android Development] fr4nk1yn:
I'm getting "weird" results after flashing this. ROM is one I cooked up. Root enabled, BusyBox installed, apks zipalighned with bloat removed, "Task Killer" tweaks nothing else.

All was going well at first, I think I messed something up playing with SetCPU and the launchers all keep getting laggy and going black requiring a battery pull.

That's not the "result" though.

While troubleshooting I noticed in SetCPU and AutoKiller, free memory in "insanely" high. I've always had free memory in the area of 70mb maybe 120mb on a fresh boot.

I restored from Nandroid to fix my problem, I also checked the memory and reflashed this.

On a fresh boot free memory is showing over 200mb and after using the phone it's only dropping to 170-180mb.

AutoKiller shows the combined cached and free RAM, SetCPU shows then individually but they're high in both places.

I originally thought something was clearing the memory and creating the launcher lag but it's running well 2nd time around.
[EVO 4G Android Development] netarchy:
The reason would appear to be due to the fact that the non-dc build doesn't have the custom dc-only scripts that apply dconfig profile settings to the system on boot. You might consider changing your dconfig profile a bit and see if it improves things. You can thank tatnai for stumbling across that revelation incidentally ;D
[EVO 4G Android Development] jerryparid:
I'm getting bad battery drain problems with this kernel. I decided to give this another day, but last night it drained 40% of my battery in 6 hours of standby with Wifi and Data turned off. I cleared all processes with SystemPanel also.

Can someone link me to the stock kernel?
[EVO 4G Android Development] tyrnight:
just reflash you rom and it will replace the kernel..
[EVO 4G Android Development] Kabump:
Starting over from scratch seems to have worked! Big thanks to mrmoeb for posting his steps, and props to the guys working on this kernel, love it so far. Thanks very much!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Mecha2142:
Damn it, I KNEW I shouldn't have tried this again. I tried flashing the 3.6.4 kernel onto my phone running Fresh 1.0.1 with the dalvik cache and regular cache wiped. Boot loop. If flashing this kernel somehow messed my nandroid backup, I'm stuck installing the ROM all over again.

I'm using an Epson display, Hardware 003. Is there some reason my particular godforsaken phone refuses to work with this kernel?

Edit: Nandroid restore worked. Still dying to get this kernel working on my phone, though.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bigrushdog:
You just saved my life brother! For two hours, I've been trying to figure out why I'm bootlooping. thanks!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Mecha2142:
Raar, this is horrible news -_-. I want the glory of having an uncapped Evo on fresh without experience tearing. If I have to give up the 700+ mb of apps I currently have installed, though, I guess I'll have to pass for now.