yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bbezja1:
on winmo, you should open up the Marketplace, write "identify that song" into the search and then tap download of the offered app. After waiting up to 30 secs (on HD2) you click on startmenu, open the said app and tap "listen".

how is this worse than any other mobile OS?

bottom line: like with anything Microsoft made, ppl are just used to bash it with no or very little reason.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] darkt123:
perhaps a bad example as i wasn't aware there was an app like that and after i googled i realized this. the moral of the story wasn't really about this particular app, so much as the overall workings of the OS. in this particular scenario if they were rann side by side, perhaps both os's would have come out on top. but from personally experience windows mobile tends to frustrate more often than android. it's not ignorance of the os because i've been in and around almost all windows OS and know very well how they work, but simply put it's user friendliness and ease of use.

again sorry for the bad example on that particular case.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tranquillo:
+1

is it really a solution to put a peace of paper over the mic? i've read that the mic-settings is too high...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] lore-mordred:
Working skymap...instructions/workarround

Hello XDA forums. First I would like to thank you all Developers and other enthusiasts for producing such a good product/project.

I have gone through about 750 pages of posts and read just about everything. Since I won't complain about anything since I usually find a answer somewhere buried in a post on some 20 pages later.

For those with the skymap issue this is what I did since the unmounting of the sdcard was not working for me....I admit I could have done something wrong so I apologize beforehand if anyone tells me to read the posts.

Step 1

I first downloaded this app before I ever knew about the Skymap issue..........

de[dot]codeplex[dot]com or just google Droid Explorer......reference to Mityok for posting (# 7877)

-thanks so much-

Step 2

I installed it, (my desktop which I did this was Win 7 x64/install yours accordingly) Had a few issues still with the sdcard. So I rebooted, and left my USB unplugged. Then once into droid, unlock screen (may not be necessary), connect your usb cable to your computer with Droid Explorer open.

***note: do not press the button on your phone that would say "Turn on usb storage" as I found this would generate one of the buggs***

Step 3

Then download Google Sky Maps to your computer. I found it by "Googleing = "google sky map android download". For some reason the main websited did not have a link (that I found) to work for downloading th .apk directly so I used the second link i found on google.

Step 4

Using Droid Explorer, select your Sdcard folder in the left payne, then drag over the stardroid.apk to the sdcard.

Step 5

Then on your phone use a file explorer ( I have ES File Explorer pre installed with the current build) and go to your sdcard and load the .apk (just tap it/launch it) and now the app will install without a hitch.

If someone already beat me to it.....then kudos and may the credits go to said person. I'm just trying to help people.

Current settings with everything working:

CyanogenMod-6.0.0 RC1

FRF91

Kernel 2.6.32.9-38076 -dirty- By cotulla

Zimage: 7/23 cotulla no speedy

Radio:15.40.50.07_2.12.50.02_2R

Rom: 2.13.90963 + Miri v17.6

Provider: TMOUS

LauncherPro - This reduced my lag and lockups while scrolling or performing any action. -previous launcher caused headaches as posted. --- If anyone keeps posting about this issue, feel free to refer this setup if its useful. **installed from the market**

Autoboot: xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=737001 Thanks to Exceller and Jealousy

My thanks to all you folks providing this product. After the tweeks and updates, all is running super smooth. If I encounter a issue, i will look to this forum for more answers.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dcordes:
Thanks, you're welcome. I will look into adding the howto in the FAQ section.

cheers

EDIT:

In order to make use of my PPP patch in git, you have to install pppd in your Android(tm) rootfs and

a)manually setup the link using a script. (you could take it from my ubuntu 0.2)

b)rewrite the RIL program.

Now a) is much easier but it's very ugly. It will be better to create the new ril. People using Android(tm) on the msm7xxxA phones like raphael diamond topaz rhodium etc, (also known as xdandroid) have done this already. I can look into porting it for qsd8250-wince use.

EDIT2: right.. if you want to use the PPP patch now you will lose plenty of other features that are only available binary (in cotulla's kernel binaries). You might wait until Cotulla will show his code and my fellow developers and me merge it in GIT.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nuclearfissure:
hi...nvm just ignore my post...anyone having problems with battery check this thread out first..

xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=734886&page=3
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] palestinian91:
ok when i hit autodetect in setcpu it says no root access detected. What could be the problem? i have a ROOTFS.IMG in my sd card and all it says is read-only
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mskip:
What Android build are you using?

Sometimes it doesnt work right the first time you try it so run it again and see if it accepts this time.

Mark.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] NickPP:
I don't see the reason why some of you are trying so hard to bash WM OS over Android and still own the HD2. Why, you simply did not find a good Android device and were simply holding on to the HD2 for the so called holy grail of OS' the Android?

I have Energy GTX on my HD2 and with CHT, this thing with MS simply flies. My friends EVO is slow compard to my HD2 with said upgrades.

The only thing that sucks with my WM OS is the marketplace and that is not even a function of the OS.

I love the idea of dual booting for this reason alone. For apps, I use the Android and for all other phone related tasks, it's MS for me on the HD2.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Shatterv2:
Can anyone link me to the HTC Linux Chat? I googled and didint find anything :o. Sorry, Im just not very use to IRC's and such.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] KeithRVA:
Hey sydney, I think the folks at HTC did an amazing job with their version of Sense on the HD2. And with CoOkie's Hometab the UI on the HD2 is absolutely world class.

But I use an old MyTouch 3g with Android 1.6 as my regular day-to-day phone, and even with the old OS the Android phone is a richer experience. Being able to paste widgets from the Android marketplace is one area where Android simply rules. I'm sure Windows Phone 7 and future versions of Apple IOS will have something similar, but for now only Android OS lets you customize your pages with so much live content.

The HD2 is still a fantastic piece of hardware, and Android will utilize more of it's power than WinMo IMO. BTW, I have Miri's ROM, running Darkstone's Desire v5 with Sense and it is like the HD2 on steroids (I tried the Froyo build but for some reason I like Eclair better). I have widgets galore, tons of apps, and the swirling galaxy live wallpaper all running at the same time and the HD2 handles it all without flinching. My poor MyTouch 3G would scream for mercy with that much going on. So, I loved my HD2 running WinMo, but I love it even more running Android :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Bvv21:
is the echo issue resolved? only thing that stands between me and android on my hd2.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] twinsun:
http://webchat.freenode.net/

#htc-linux-chat
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] KeithRVA:
Is there a way to disable the keypad backlights in Darkstone Desire v5 without changing my Miri ROM? From what I've read changing to Energy ROM will do the trick but I really don't want to go that route since Miri boots WinMo nice and quick, and I'm getting good results with it otherwise. Thanks!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] songokussm:
when you boot into android, make sure your keypad lights are off. They will still be off in android but will not turn on. You either have them always on or always off. It will be fixed later, but I have them off and I get less then 1.5% battery drain per hour now. 30% battery will last me about 8 hours of standby vs 5 hours with the lights son.

Yes and no. So far the only way to fix it, is to use a recommended rom.

Thats all about to change. The previews that are up on youtube about the gingerbread UI are out of this world amazing. Google is almost there. Once they fix their UI the only thing that is left is their market place.

You need root access. What android flavor are you running? You will need to install a patch. Or download a new one. I use the 2 in my sig as my daily drivers.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] lonelykatana:
Not very helpful in this thread...

I love winmo, but Id rather run android day in day out.

Duel booting is freaking awesome though!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] KeithRVA:
Thanks a lot, will give this a try. IDK if the keypad doesn't light up, I'm familiar with where the buttons are by now, don't need to see them (physical hardware buttons, yet another reason why HD2 is better than EVO and N1 :D)

Wow 8hrs standby vs 5hrs...thats a lot, not to mention the wear and tear on the device hardware. BTW thank you to the awesome guys behind the HD2/Android development on this site. Not only are your builds amazing, but you make it so easy to get Android up and running...so much easier than having to root and use a goldcard blah blah just to get Froyo on the MyTouch (I'm looking at you Cyanogen...JK!)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] PouncePony:
Reason? Because it can be done and is neat as heck to mess around with.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jaidedfocus:
Well I was duped into thinking that this was an awesome device which in many ways it is. But since day one I've had issues with my hd2 some which I've been able to work around others not so much. Reason I still have it? Cause I don't really like the devices T-moUS has right now. But playing around with the various builds of Android I know when they put out another HTC Android device ill most likely get it.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] slackersink:
I don't find an android device because I can't afford to. I'd love to switch my phone out for an Evo. I dislike t-mobile's network and I'm so bored of WM. It used to be fun customizing the phone but with the HD2 it feels less like customizing and more about finding ways to fix all its flaws. In the end that's what we're doing. Hell, that's what Sense is, a way to easily and more visually do things than the standard wm interface. A "fix" for the limitation of wm. Multitouch is an htc addition, even.

And yes, WM can to a point do the same as android, but android's imdb (for example) app is amazing and slick. Ours is... What? No official app, a guy here had to make one? But the fandango app... No search results? Bing is a nice bandaid, but not the same. And this is coming from a guy that LOVED his Tilt phone, the HD2 has disappointed me. Android has breathed new life into my phone and I can't wait until I can use it full time. Or, until someone trades me for an evo. ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Phenomenon:
Have you guys found WHY the calls issue is still there? I don't mind Miri's Rom, but I personally don't like it. I prefer Dutty's Roms, but they don't seem to work with this.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dcordes:
Please cease discussion about how WinCE system roms affect Linux (Android,Ubuntu...).
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] arcades:
Because ALL Android based phones are crap designed. They are not cool.

HD2 looks cool, but it has crap WM 6.5 on it.

We want beautiful designed + functional device!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dcordes:
Ok a) works as expected.

I documented how to get the stable Android data networking here http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Leo/Status&diff=prev&oldid=2032

for future chef reference.

cheers

edit: obviously you need to use the patched kernel (see the quote)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] yngvebn:
Quoting the first post of this thread

So please stop talking about WinMo/Android/Whatever.. I check in on this thread for updates on the actual Android-rom since that's what it's for...

If you're not interested in having Android on your device, that's fine!

Take your flame-war somewhere else! :confused:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] steady6:
Is it really going to be stable 100%

Guys, let’s be honest this HD2 running Android is not going to be the same. You still get the SOD if you are using it more than 3 days, echo on calls, charging is not accurate yet. Very important stuff.. it’s never going to run the speed it needs to run. I wouldn’t be right here if only T-mo had good phones with a 4”3 screen running android. I will go to other carries but been to long with t-mo and is not easy switching. The Devs should tell us the true if is going to be stable 100% or not for other people could move on. maybe I’m wrong who knows… I give lots of credit to the dev those guys are so amazing and smart.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jaidedfocus:
I have to say at first I couldn't use this more than a few hours but after using a lot of the suggestions the devs and various members have made, I'm using this on a day to day basis. I had never flashed the rom on a device before but I flashed Miri's ROM and I'd say about half of my problems were fixed doing that one thing.

I've played with various builds, updated to the most stable images and it really has worked. The thing that makes it easy for me is that I love tech stuff especially phones and I don't mind being risky. You should def try some of the suggestions to see what works best.

Currently running

HSPL for T-MoUS 1024

Miris Rom (forget which one but I'm sure its the recommended one)

Matts Froyo w/Desire 1.3a

I no longer get robotic calls, gps is working and camera & video camera works with flash. No issue with echoes either. I've had it running since 7am this morning after leaving it off all night.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] DuperMan:
Silly post is silly.

The devs aren't any better clairvoyants than you. Give it time, hold them fingers crossed and have patience. Wanna donate in skill or resources? Go for it. I fail to see the point in flaunting one's opinion regarding the future of this project, considering how a short read of the device specs vs. native Android devices' seemingly contradicts this speculation.

Not meaning to sound harsh; I'm just afraid such baseless negative comments might dishearten our brave devs, pushing them away when we're inches away from this 100% Android'ened HD2 fantasy. Seriously, it's just about down to a good dev branches' consolidation and a smart 'lil bootloader and we'll be living the dream :D

DuperMan
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] corollatercel:
ok

Now back to the Android Discussion guys. I've been working for a week now perfectly. Earpiece volume is a little low but no complaints. Thanks to all the hard work the devs have done.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ketzazu:
Steady6 is just missing the genius behind this whole effort to have android ported to a windows mobile phone like the HTC HD2. This work is monumental even if the geniuses behind it would not get it to be 100%. I doubt it very much they will settle for less. I believe they can even make it better than 100%. I take the risk to say that there is no 100% phone out there anyway. Even the iPhone is not.

Personally, I am currently unable to decide which of the 2 beauties to be with: the iPhone 3GS or the HTC HD2? The Hd2 always win. For example, I unlocked the 3GS last night but I am already back to my HD2. Besides the freezing, the phone is by far disappointing as there is no perfect lady anyway.

Let us all applaud all those behind the android on the HTC HD2!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kingfisher1111:
What Radio are you using?

Thanks
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] donkeypunch85:
'Nuff said...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] GHOST99K:
the choice is yours: dont port android if u like your WM or port android and have fun.come to think about it u never had to or have to pay to get android OS running on WM so why so impatient or flaming the hard work of the devs.all we r doing is testing everything cuz the works r still under process.so far im loving my hd2 android.thank 2 all the devs.:D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] DuperMan:
Some posts should just be made un-quotable/un-repliable/un-commentable on :P
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jaidedfocus:
Radio 2.12
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] xanderdad:
Testing the newest zImage right now. Here are his notes from the readme.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ReggieA86:
Great news. Im loving how fast this is all being done. Now I just have to wait to all audio problems are fixed, so I can get better feedback from my MicDroid application. Anybody tried it yet besides me??

P.s. for anyone who think im referring to robotic noise or echoing im not. I use Kumars premium rom which is tailor made to work with the android as well as give a beautiful and stable windows build!!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] xanderdad:
YES!

The echo problem has been solved. I am a Tmous user and have had the echo problem since day one. The in call volume adjust now works and I made several calls without any echo or background noise on the other end.

The touch screen is also perfect for me now with no lag and very precise movements. The system as a whole seems much much faster.

Great work Cotulla!

Darkstone Froyo v1 with latest 8/3 zImage and michyprima rootfs file.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] aSiD1712:
HD2 Ubuntu 4Port USB HUB with mobile power supply 2,6 - 13 Volt
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Dblfstr:
Radio? Rom?

I didn't think we needed a michyprima rootfs on Darkstone Froyo...

However, GREAT NEWS, testing...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] aSiD1712:
Ubuntu V0.2 Questions:

-Is it possible to change size of file system or install apps on the Fat32 SD partition? System is running out of space to fast by installing apps.

-Is it possible to change hardware buttons mapping?

-Is it possible to rotate the screen ccw to get the buttons to the left Hand? I am crossing arms to press buttons while touching screen.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bangsters:
New zImage is out!!!! trying it now.... will update you guys in abit...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Kilroy672:
Just a quick question. With the new zImage out now, whouldn't that over ride the other? The one fron 7-23? Becuse that zImage seems to be the best out right now. I don't want to use that and mess up what I know is already good. Any thoughts on this?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mmbika:
Did it mean if I keep data.img from previous versions when new version comes up, I will be able to get back all my installed apps from Market without need to reinstall them in new version?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Neolo:
I have a problem. After few days using android builds I can't open anymore applications in WM including Haret.exe with error "can not be opened..., either not sighned trusted sertificate..." Help!!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] xanderdad:
Sorry, I should know better

Radio 2.10.50.28_2

ROM Energy.Leo 21911.Barebones WM Build with phone radio turned off.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] widmer:
8/3 Zimage Impressions

So far here's my initial impressions:

TMous 1024 Leo

Darkstone's Froyo build

Energy Cookie Rom

2.10.50 radio

GPS is finally working for me

The external speaker during calls is loud!

Internal speaker seems louder too!

Scrolling is super smooth

Reboot (long press on power, then press reboot) works!

Using Mskips Android Loader (V3), I did get WSOD (white screen) 3 times after doing the initial reboot from Froyo back into WinMo. Had to pull the battery. Once back into WinMo, again using Mskips loader, Froyo booted up.

More impressions after dinner.

Thanks devs!

Cheers...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] memin1857:
If this isn't the time for making a donation to Cotulla, I don't know when is!

Latest zimage is great! Guys, if you want even better zimages sooner, I suggest you donate any amount you feel comfortable to him. Don't worry, paypal is owned by ebay, it is the safest website to send money via credit card.

Cotulla Donation link:

https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=3C7JC3YZYBU2U

Notes:

-New 03 august zimage includes functionality of 23 july image

-echo and background noise is gone

-low volume mp3 is gone

-no more sod for different panels (it should be better battery life for everyone now)

-you can now reboot. (without first turning off)

-touch is better

-you can change call volume

-some other fixes.

I am not sure but, somehow it seems android is booting and running faster?

Miris Hd2 Wm 6.5 v17.0 Winmo ROM

2.12.50.02_2 Radio

Shubcraft Cyanogen CM6 RC2 v1.0 by shubi Android Build

Cotulla 3/8 zimage
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ChrisM001:
Unfortunately having more SOD issues with the new zimage.

Apart from that I can confirm, that ego shooter game N.O.V.A. works with Darkstone Froyo ROm. Fantastic!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] xanderdad:
I did get the WSOD the first time I booted on my phone, however I have had zero freezes or SOD once Android booted. Testing on both my phone and my wifes.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Khmer123:
Cotulla is my hero!!

WOW love it! here go some of my donation and more to come.

Paypal Confirmation number: 15W11331RT9978436.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Agoattamer:
OK, I am using the Darkstone Froyo Build, system.ext2 for gps, 1GB data.img, and the no speedy zImage. T9193 with SEA WWE 1.66 rom and 2.12.50 radio.

I just took the new zImage for a spin. Everything booted up fine. I didn't even get a chance to try the calls out yet. But I went for the reboot instead of the shutdown. Phone rebooted into windows fine. No lockup. However after restarting android it froze on the white screen that should have said HTC. I havent had a screen of death or a lockup in over a week. Sat there for 15 minutes. So I too got the WSOD. I soft reset and again tried booting into windows and after the vertical white lines the scrolling screen of code went on for over 15 minutes. Not sure what it was saying it was moving so fast. Eventually it booted into android.

I then made a test call to my home phone. I set my HD2 in front of my speaker of my pc with recorded voice playing and walked into another room and shut the door. Audio was clear and loud. BUT whenever I spoke on my home phone it blocked the audio from my HD2 from coming through. I started to hum and could then not hear anything at all from my HD2 until I stopped humming. Tried both using speakerphone and receiver on HD2 with the same result. So the audio still needs some work here. But it was clear and loud as long as both parties speak at different times.