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[Desire Android Development] ephumuris:
While were on the subject of nandroid. Is it possible to add support for either version of ext backup? Like first to check for "ext.tar" and if not exist then check for "sd-ext.img" (clockwork backup). Would it be possible to implement this? As then Amonra and clockwork backups would be universal in a way. Especially once androidsecure support is also added.

Then it may be possible to also look for backups in /sdcard/clockworkmod/backups or just add folder browsing to nandroid.

Sorry to be creating more work for you haha they are just ideas after all. I would implement them if i had the knowledge however i'm just an idea guy lol.

If you keep maintaining this it could be the most full featured recovery ever for the Desire it could be the standard by which all recoveries are measured by for the device.
[Desire Android Development] juanjitos:
thanks for the implementation of flash to any directory on the sd card, could be implemented to tell you the amount of available space on the sd card as it does the clockmodwork?

it could change the background to one that is not the nexus of one?

thank you very much for your work

Regards
[Desire Android Development] worstenbrood:
Where is the space showed ?

If someone can create a more Desire related background i'll include it.
[Desire Android Development] hk5354:
need to select from amount of file ....not convenient....

also can be work with both vol down and track ball?
[Desire Android Development] hensk:
can someone make a step by step quide,how can we

have RA recovery workin..
[Desire Android Development] worstenbrood:
Will be fixed :)
[Desire Android Development] Qliratu:
Plz plz plz read the first page,the linked threads explain it all.
[Desire Android Development] juanjitos:
shows the available space when going to start the backup Nandra.

Also an option would be nice to flash directly update.zip

the clockmodwork have 2 options or explore the sd or directly to flash update.zip root of the sd.

a bug that has the R4 is that it displays the entire contents of the sd remains in the letter r

PD expose everything are just suggestions for the author of the paper, because I do not.

and anyway I appreciate all your work selflessly.

you can put the blue version of the recovery?

on what background image you could put one of htc android or if it's okay
[Desire Android Development] silvake:
C'mon guys, give the man a rest.

What's wrong with the N1 background?

If he'll change it, then a lot of people will ask to change it back.

Do you think it's fair to have him release as many variants as we could request? Don't you agree there's gonna be to many flavors?

As in with/without alt-keys, with/without N1 background, with/without ext4 suport, and the list may go on...

Also I see more and more requests to integrate many of the clockworkmod's features into AmonRa.

It could be a good thing, but you shouldn't push things that far and especially not that quick; it could easily become a kind of Frankenstein, if you know what I mean...

Let the man work out and thoroughly test all the features he sees fit and eventually we'll all find them in here.

Just my 2 cents...
[Desire Android Development] ephumuris:
Don't worry mate these are just ideas. Brainstorming if you will. worstenbrood is under no obligation to fill requests and i'm sure he will not feel pressured. He can add what he wants at his own pace. It's just great to see the ideas, If he likes something enough himself he may choose to implement it. If not then it's no big deal.

I agree it could end up a mess if too much is done.
[Desire Android Development] juanjitos:
I give myself ideas, not forcing anyone to do so.

I hope not to have bothered the author with my comments.

Regards
[Desire Android Development] silvake:
Of course mates, brainstorming is good and any ideas are welcomed here. After all, this is what this forum is all about.

I was just saying we shouldn't make requests for some features (like "Please change the background", or "Please make it an update.zip file" and so on), but instead just suggest what we think it were cool to have as a new feature AND we can't find it or use it otherwise.

For example, if you prefer koush's ClockworkMod recovery, you could still use it, even if you permanently flashed AmonRa: simply launch flashing it like an update.zip from AmonRA's menus and you'll have a temporary session of the koush's fine recovery, with all its latest features, without the need to ask those similar features from AmonRA.

No offence, but I used AmonRa's recoveries since the days of the HTC Magic and Hero and I never complained about missing features from the recovery menus.

Back then I could do anything I wanted with my Android device and now that we all have this same power with the HTC Desire, I think we'd better concentrate upon other more important issues.

Ever wondered why AmonRa himself didn't bothered to continue developing the similar N1 project?
[Desire Android Development] StuMcBill:
Has anyone tried installing a radio using this recovery?

Does it go through the same process as clockworkmod? Ie run the radio updated and complete the installation during a reboot?
[Desire Android Development] Qliratu:
I flashed it same as clockwork (i think) also reboots 2x and installs the radio on reboot (i think again)
[Desire Android Development] silvake:
I did and it worked just fine.

The only difference (as opposed to a fake-flash recovery for instance) is that the phone reboots into recovery again afterward (after the radio image finished flashing), and you must reboot it manually from the recovery menu.

It's just the good-old AmonRa behavior, as previously seen with the HTC Hero for example.
[Desire Android Development] StuMcBill:
Perfect, thanks for the replies guys.
[Desire Android Development] mojoe1989:
When it's finished, is it possible to root the desire like the Hero/G2? This would be great!
[Desire Android Development] ephumuris:
I don't think i'll update to the newest nightly (15th) just yet as using the one from yesterday (14th) i don't really have any problems at all. Very usable rom.

Anyone know what is different between this version and yesterdays? Any noticable fixes?

Can't wait for release version. I've actually switched to this rom full time now. No more Defrost for me i don't think. Just love the extra options etc.
[Desire Android Development] worstenbrood:
Updated...
[Desire Android Development] hk5354:
track ball work with alt key now?
[Desire Android Development] juanjitos:
thanks my brother. :D:D
[Desire Android Development] lambrospower:
AWSOME JOB my friend.....i now have both recoveries easily....flashed permanently this one and fake-flash clockwork one.....you are the best
[Desire Android Development] mon@diac:
great work...i like it
[Desire Android Development] bradputt:
how to do it the other way around?

clockwork - permanent , amonRa - zip.
[Desire Android Development] lambrospower:
i tried that too with the previous amonRa update.zip somewhere in xda but it wasn't flashed correctly or at all....you must push the files from the pc if you want to fake-flash amonRa's recovery

or

i dunno if there is a new update.zip for this recovery we can use

but i think this way is the best as this recovery has all the options you want, even formatting the sd card but if you want clockwork faje-flash it...and you will always have the latest version of clockwork if you update it with rom manager
[Desire Android Development] bradputt:
But all my backups are done in nendroid, is it compatible with AmonRa's ?
[Desire Android Development] tkm89:
Thanks :)

10char
[Desire Android Development] robbiekhan:
BCDES-20100715-1926

^^ The time is always an hour behind when nandroiding, not an issue, just thought I'd mention :p
[Desire Android Development] lambrospower:
yes they are just put into different folders.....just find the folder with the recovery you are going to use to restore and place your backup there....notice the folder name for any change
[Desire Android Development] Nekromantik:
is this recovery better for creating ext partitions?
[Desire Android Development] lambrospower:
personally i am using gparted for creating partitions since i have full control of what i am doinjg.....but you can use this too
[Desire Android Development] Androhyp:
Hello, I flashed this recovery (r5) with UnrEVOked and I got a problem, sometimes not always.

When I try to enter in recovery, I stay stuck on the white HTC screen, just before enter on recovery.

So I have to get out the battery and put it in again.. I flashed twice to be sure but the problem still here.

Am I the only with this bug ? Excuse my English.

Thanks
[Desire Android Development] worstenbrood:
Never had a problem with it here
[Desire Android Development] ephumuris:
I don't think that is a recovery bug. I have had that problem for ages even before ever flashing a recovery. Sometimes when I flash a rom it gets stuck on HTC screen. Pull battery then it boots fine. It does it occasionally on a normal reboot. It does it when trying to get into recovery. It doesn't worry me but I do think that maybe I could brick if it happened during a radio update.
[Desire Android Development] gatsu_1981:
Same here
[Desire Android Development] shawe_ewahs:
worstenbrood can you do a unique version that give the possibility for use volumn keys or trackpad for move, use press-trackpad/power for confirm and back key for back?

I think that can be better for you and for users than have 2 different versions for a feature that you can have in a unique version like clockworkmod recovery.
[Desire Android Development] worstenbrood:
Already implemented in upcomming R6 ;)
[Desire Android Development] Androhyp:
It never happened to me with a "normal" recovery before I flashed this one.

It happened 2 times for 10 reboots in recovery, maybe more. it's to much for me to say "it occasionally on a normal reboot" but it's my point of view.

And yes, if it happened during a radio update.. I'll try the R6, if it's the same for me, i'll go to test the Clockworkmod to see if I got the same problem.. Really bored about that.
[Desire Android Development] worstenbrood:
To test i rebooted to recovery 15 times, didn't fail once :s
[Desire Android Development] shawe_ewahs:
Another thing, some news apps are saving here data on "/sdcard/Android/data" also can be interested have de nandroid backup on "/sdcard/Android/nandroid", and the root of SDCARD can be more cleaned for another user things and not deleted "by error".
[Desire Android Development] extreme22:
how do you flash this
[Desire Android Development] ephumuris:
Like i said don't worry about it. It's 100% nothing to do with Recovery as far as my device is concerned it started before all the flashing recoveries come about. To be honest i don't think mine ever does it on a normal reboot now. It's only when i flash a rom and when i use recovery. But it started ages ago and did it with fake flash clockwork. Mine does it every other boot guaranteed.

I may try going back to stock, rerooting and reflashing recovery and rom and see how that goes.

100% nothing to do with your recovery i'm sure.

Read first post. Unrevoked!

Oh and can't wait for R6 great idea that's what i imagined in the first place. Must be less work in the long run.
[Desire Android Development] Ronaldo_9:
tried doing nandriod back up with this even after 25mins it still didnt finish....gave up and took battery out.

any else had this problem?
[Desire Android Development] ephumuris:
Was your backup done with this recovery or was it done with clockworkmod? If it was done with clockwork the ext partitions are handled differently and i suppose that may cause problems although i would have thought it would just skip them.
[Desire Android Development] Ronaldo_9:
I used the new r5 version of this. I didn't do ext just the 1st option nandriod backup.

Clockwork recovery via Rom manager nandriod back up worked fine.

Ideally I want this one to work as its my main recovery.

Cheers
[Desire Android Development] PatrikSelin:
Sorry my bad English. How I install and use AmonRa?
[Desire Android Development] shawe_ewahs:
Reading the first post.
[Desire Android Development] djoni1980:
I flashed clockword mod accidentaly :D

can I just start reflash (unrevoked application) again and flash amonra instead?

edit: forget it, I already flashed amonra :)
[Desire Android Development] ephumuris:
Yeah you can swap and change any time and you can update in the same way. Make sure to keep phone unplugged, select file then custom image then plug in :)
[Desire Android Development] djoni1980:
yep, that was a mistake first time, cause it's a script and it starts right away as soon as you plug in usb :)
[Desire Android Development] eefurt:
flashing recovery image, do not touch your phone

I am staring for more ten 10 minutes an this message, nothings seems to happen. How long does this procedure takes?
[Desire Android Development] djoni1980:
have you installed hboot drivers?
[Desire Android Development] sbdags:
Just flashed this and it automatically did Clockwork Recovery not AmonRA 1.7.0.1. Doh! Don't connect device before you run the program! ;) I'm going to flash again but choose custom recovery first. However my question is :

What is the difference between Clockwork and AmonRA? Does one have an advantage over the other?
[Desire Android Development] shoey-n:
flash and find out ;) AmonRa has a lot more features :D
[Desire Android Development] sbdags:
Yeah it does! ;)
[Desire Android Development] benleong2008:
I've flashed this and it works great!

However the USB-MS toggle doesn't seem to work.
[Desire Android Development] shoey-n:
:confused: weird, works fine for me
[Desire Android Development] benleong2008:
Really?

I plugged in USB, switched off the phone, entered recovery mode and clicked on USB-MS toggle. The screen showed that USB-MS was enabled, however nothing happened, the sd card wasn't mounted.

Anyone knows what might be the problem? I've tried flashing it again but it's still the same. :(

The previous recovery before this one used to work fine.
[Desire Android Development] shoey-n:
Just tested it, my sd card popped up on my computer within 5 seconds :confused:
[Desire Android Development] StuMcBill:
When I do this it sometimes takes 20-30 seconds for it to actually appear on my Laptop (Windows 7 x64).

Once it does everything is fine, maybe just wait a bit longer and see if it appears?
[Desire Android Development] benleong2008:
Yes! I'm using windows 7 x64 as well. It takes quite a while before it actually appears. Thanks.
[Desire Android Development] hensk:
I manage to make work 100 staffs

but this recovery I dont understand realy

instalation..first post quide i cant not figure out
[Desire Android Development] blackfox888:
Working Perfectly for me, using windows 7. Try booting into recovery first, plug in usb than click usb-ms toggle.
[Desire Android Development] silvake:
If you have a desktop PC, avoid connecting the Desire to the front case USB connectors, use the rear ones instead.

For me (and many other Desire users), this solved many similar problems...

Don't know for the laptops, though...
[Desire Android Development] ephumuris:
Laptops have USB on the back and sides. The back ones always give better results for me but maybe that's due to old laptop.
[Desire Android Development] tkm89:
Is it possible to include 'scrolling up' in the next release? For example in the flashing a zip file section, I have to scroll all the way down for the zips. I believe the amon_ra recovery on the Hero also included this feature.

Thanks for all your work so far!
[Desire Android Development] ephumuris:
Yeah i second that. I like to scroll up to go straight to the bottom of the list!
[Desire Android Development] Der_Michael:
Just flashed your recovery via unrevoked3. First reboot stuck on htc boot logo. After taking out the battery and putting in it works flawlessly.

Clockwork mod / update.zip´s no longer needed and choosing recovery from the bootloader directs to your recovery. I LOVE IT.

Thankyou very much! :-)
[Desire Android Development] worstenbrood:
Things implemented in upcomming R6:

- Merged normal version and alt keys, both controls available in one version now

- Scrolling

- Nandroid backup/restore compatible with ClockWork (.img files), but left support

for nandroid's taken with previous versions (ext.tar)

- Nandroid backups .android_secure

- Selective backup/restore (you can choose in recovery which partitions you wanna backup/restore)

- File deletion (especially .apk in /system or /sd-ext)

Still needs a bit of work, but i leave to Spain today, so i'll have plenty of time ;)
[Desire Android Development] lambrospower:
these new features are awsome to hear although i didn't have any problem with the recovery so far...neither at nandroids or flashing!!!

i hope that with these new stuff nothing will break as of now :P
[Desire Android Development] ephumuris:
If you don't like it you can always downgrade to a previous one.

The new features sound IMMENSE. Specifically the .apk delete feature. However if you do this people are going to be asking for ability to copy .apk to system etc. Then ability to backup individual .apk. You get what i mean? You are creating a lot of work for yourself but this could make this recovery a must have even for those who like clockwork.
[Desire Android Development] mr.r9:
Amazing, I was going to ask you about this.

Have a pleasant holiday in Spain, oh and wear very thin cloths there because it's very veryyyyyy hot:D
[Desire Android Development] pandomu:
I've got HTC Desire with HBOOT 0.80

I have root on my phone

I download unrEVOked reflash and AmonRA img

I installed hbootloader drivers

I uninstalled HTC sync

I turned off debug mode on my phone

I run reflash.exe and pointed AmonRA img as custom recovery

I pluged the phone and then tunred debug mode on

I know that the whole proces should be automatic, but it always stuck on "pushing recovery image" command... it even dosn't restart my phone...

I tried:

different OS (XP and WIN7)

two sd micro cards

two type of cable (including original one)

5 different USB plugs

two different computers (PC and laptop)

DeFrost Froyo rom and Froyo + Sense M@@XRoM-Froyo+Sense FRF91

putting unrEVOked folder in different locations

What is more, if I run unrEVOked reflash with original Clockwork Metod everything goes OK...

Any ideas to slove my problem?
[Desire Android Development] ephumuris:
Debug should be turned on first.
[Desire Android Development] pandomu:
doesnt work either...
[Desire Android Development] ephumuris:
I'd sack off Windows and use a Linux live disc. I used Ubuntu. No drivers no messing. Pretty much automatic.
[Desire Android Development] wieben:
+1

Bump....:confused:
[Desire Android Development] Pyr0x64:
when you uninstalled HTC Sync, did you leave the HTC Driver Installer?

did you restart the phone in bootloader/hboot to install the correct driver?

usb debugging should be enabled on the phone before plugging in

are you running unrevoked as an admin on win7 ?
[Desire Android Development] Joloba18:
Best recovery so far !! Really nice work !

Just a question: Is there a fake-flash version (update.zip) for the updated R5 version ? As I don't want to use Unrevoked.

Thanks.
[Desire Android Development] pandomu:
yes, I left HTC Driver installed

I restart the phone in bootloader/hboot to install the correct driver and now I can see in Device Manager "Android Phone 1.0"

I tried two different way, first with debug on and second with off

yes Im running as admin...

as I said I am trying all possibles ideas, with Ubuntu 9 there is no reaction on the phone...

EDIT: but its maeby becouse Linux Root User... I have to chceck this...
[Desire Android Development] wieben:
nooding along...!!
[Desire Android Development] Pyr0x64:
on ubuntu i had to create a .rules file before my phone was recognised.

http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/device.html
[Desire Android Development] nabiladeeb:
nandroid restore not working on R5..

getting : "Error: run 'nandroid-mobile.sh restore' via adb"
[Desire Android Development] ephumuris:
It works for me. Try to back up sd card and repartition with this recovery. Did you make your backup with this recovery?
[Desire Android Development] nabiladeeb:
I made the backup using R5. I then flashed R4 recovery and could restore the same backup using R4.anyone else having trouble restoring backups in R5?
[Desire Android Development] robbiekhan:
No issues in R5 backup or restore here, I'm using EXT4 as well.
[Desire Android Development] frantacech:
Hi, I have ROM with kernel patch R14 MCR 3.1 UVOC with support ext4.

SDcard partition still ext3.

Can I convert ext3 to ext4 by Amon RA - without reinstal phone? Only convert in Amon RA?
[Desire Android Development] shoonari:
let me guess - you battery is quite low at this moment? ;)
[Desire Android Development] benleong2008:
I've encountered this twice yesterday:eek:. After removing the battery, it works flawlessly back again.
[Desire Android Development] robbiekhan:
EXT3 to 4 is an inline upgrade so no wiping or anything is needed. Although strange things can happen (even if rare :p) so always create a backup of your SD card just in case.

I use AmonRA's recovery to do any partition work and it works perfectly :)
[Desire Android Development] pandomu:
yes, with root user on linux ubuntu everything goes perfectly automatic
[Desire Android Development] m8tix:
I'm about to install this into my recovery but I couldn't read about an option to format the whole sd card. So is it possible to perform a wipe of the sd card or is it not supported at the moment ?
[Desire Android Development] robbiekhan:
You can format the SD card from within Android anyway. this recovery supports partition/wipe of sd/ext etc.
[Desire Android Development] m8tix:
Yep I know, my main concerns are when I have app2sd+ (with dalvik cache2sd) active what would actually happen if I unmount the sd card and re format it within android ?
[Desire Android Development] robbiekhan:
Chuck Norris might not be amused if you do that ;)

Just repartition teh SD card in Rceovery in that case which will wipe the whole card anyway. You can then restore your Nandroid backup after copying it over to the SD using USB-SD mount in Recovery I guess.
[Desire Android Development] m8tix:
hehe, thought the same ;)

Well didn't knew that it will format the whole sd card when I trigger a re partition in the recovery, thanks a lot for this hint :) I will perform this recovery as soon as I come home !

Just a last question, if I want to undo the recovery change I need the official stock rom from htc for the desire I guess ? I took a look but couldn't find any without a radio :/

Regards
[Desire Android Development] robbiekhan:
Aye it has to reformat the card when repartitioning as the remaining FAT32 needs to be formatted of course :)
[Desire Android Development] m8tix:
It does actually make sense ;) at least I should have known this :D

Thanks buddy !
[Desire Android Development] ephumuris:
Any news on progress of updates? The current r5 is perfect as am every day recovery. I'm in absolutely no rush for an update. Just the mentioned planned updates are really great additions. Just being nosey really lol.
[Desire Android Development] nabiladeeb:
guessed it right :o

charging the phone solved the problem.

thanks a lot shoonari :D
[Desire Android Development] jonmall1441:
Do you have to use unrevoked to flash this? I have root using the method on MoDaCo.
[Desire Android Development] djoni1980:
Yes, use unrevoked.

It doesn't matter if you already rooted with different method.

This will flash permanent recovery on your phone and allow you direct access to recovery from hboot, independent of pc or sd card content.