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[EVO 4G Android Development] mwielgosz:
In software information it says 2.6.32.27 but I'm not 100% sure as he may not have correctly changed the numbers. I'm concerned about the kernel #11 vs #17 battery usage debate (based in hardware version). So far my battery is quickly decreasing but it may be just settling in.

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[EVO 4G Android Development] cavediver:
I just installed the less havs version. It's running real smooth on my phone. Not a big deal, but the version on the download and on the phone indicates 4.3 rather than 4.2.3.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ls430cw:
Just loaded 4.2.3 sbc cfs no havs universal. Very smooth. On Stock Turbo Ricism78. Can definitely notice the speed diff over 4.2.2. Love these kernals. Nice work!
[EVO 4G Android Development] sgt. slaughter:
wanna say its still the old kernel but just took the camera drivers from the new one and added them to it.

He has spots on his post for the newer kernel ota builds but they are blank right now.
[EVO 4G Android Development] d0cx:
It is fast...really fast.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
based off the change log, doesn't look like it, could be wrong but it looks like he incorporated SBC and the updated camera drivers and some other tweaks. i would imagine we would see it go from 4.2.x to 4.3.x, but thats just me
[EVO 4G Android Development] jlip5617:
Ok where is the download for the latest sbc kernel? I don't see it anywhere, could it be cause I'm using the xda app from my phone?
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
yeah, its in a quoted post, view it in your browser and you will be able to see it
[EVO 4G Android Development] jlip5617:
Thank you!
[EVO 4G Android Development] kushdeck:
is 4.2.3 based off 2.6.34 or 2.6.35?

thanks,

-deck
[EVO 4G Android Development] xHausx:
Is there any chance of a version without the charging hack or is that something we will need to compile ourselves?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Jbcarrera:
MS should be working on it now BTW does anyone know if this is base on 17 or 15?

Edit 4.2.3 has the sbc fixes already implemented
[EVO 4G Android Development] xHausx:
Disabling the trickle charging?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Jbcarrera:
sorry reread that after i posted realized i misread that Damn dyslexia
[EVO 4G Android Development] nuggyunlimited:
Hey net or anyone else. Which would you suggest for myns roms? I read the bfs cfs faq but don't really understand them. Like can someone dumb down cfs, bfs, universal, havs, no havs, and sbc(i think I understand that one but just to be sure on it) thanks in advance. :-) I'm so glad you made kernels for 004 I gave up my camera to use your 4.2.1 cfs bfs more havs for the past month. I will be donating :-)
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
I am running universal more aggressive and don't have any issues
[EVO 4G Android Development] nuggyunlimited:
I will try that first and is there any tips for flashing kernels? I fully charge them wipe stats then flash is that the right order?
[EVO 4G Android Development] xHausx:
lol, it's all good. You gave me an idea though, a switch could be built in to enable/disable trickle charging. When I get back to my comp I may try to come up with something for that.
[EVO 4G Android Development] netarchy:
Hah, I just realized I meant to call it 4.3 but typed it up as 4.2.3. Woops, will fix the first post when I'm back home.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Calkulin:
Hey Netarchy, I PM'd you about this but you should really look into adding SNQ's VDD mod to the Non HAVS kernel so users can set their own voltages to get the best battery life out of the kernel
[EVO 4G Android Development] gratefultyler:
+1, loving 1.7.5 and 4.(2).3, but that would be the bee's knees, arms and legs!
[EVO 4G Android Development] mattykinsx:
4.2.3 = tearing for me.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
i don't wipe batt stats that are using SBC
[EVO 4G Android Development] brnail:
I don't wipe battery stats but I do wipe cache and dalvik cache when I flash a new kernel.
[EVO 4G Android Development] netarchy:
I don't hand change those numbers.

My kernel builds are using the 2.6.32.27 sources, I'm pulling the useful bits out of htc's kernel sources (such as the driver for the newer camera) as needed, but htc's actual kernel is still behind in terms of the base version (Htc is using 2.6.32.17 in the latest ota).

I see no reason to take a step backward in the base when I can port stuff over. ;D
[EVO 4G Android Development] netarchy:
Epson or Nova panel?

What rom?
[EVO 4G Android Development] pongoface:
Netarchy what 4.3 kernel of the are you using exactly. More, less, no havss
[EVO 4G Android Development] netarchy:
Well, if it makes any difference I believe myn uses one of my builds ;D

In general I'd always go with the latest first.
[EVO 4G Android Development] netarchy:
At the moment I'm using nohavs, but that's a bit of a loaded question since I change kernels around fairly regularly as I test them ;D

So it's entirely possible that in an hour I could be running a havs build, etc ;D
[EVO 4G Android Development] Agimax:
I'm on hw 003 w/ New Camera & epson screen (CM7), i'm getting lots of screen tearing & graphical glitches with all 3 new beta 4.3 Kernels (CFS). I had this with other Kernels also (before the new source drop), but the new Kernels by Zen and the new test ver by Cyanogen don't have this problem. I noticed Cyanogen mentioned there were some new fixes for graphical glitches in the new source released he has put into the Kernel, are these in your newest beta also?
[EVO 4G Android Development] xHausx:
Works great so far Net, 002 with a Nova and I can't get it to tear no matter what I do. Kind of wish it didn't have the modified charging system though.

Thanks for all your work !
[EVO 4G Android Development] zerowonderboy:
So whats the difference from static undervolting and every thing else?
[EVO 4G Android Development] netarchy:
Sense rom or AOSP ?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Agimax:
aosp cm7 gb
[EVO 4G Android Development] netarchy:
Static undervolting uses hardcoded static power level values for the cpu at its various speeds (aka static voltage scaling). These voltage settings are set lower than the defaults, hence undervolting.

HAVS uses variable voltage scaling, in that the voltage can scale through a range of values at any given speed.
[EVO 4G Android Development] netarchy:
I'll wager that's why. These are primarily aimed at sense roms.

What I've noticed is that the kernels aimed at sense roms tend to have lil graphical glitches on aosp roms, and aosp kernels tend to have the same glitches on sense roms.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Agimax:
Ok- thanks for the info, it's too bad they don't play nicely with Aosp, i like whats in the soup!
[EVO 4G Android Development] mroneeyedboh:
Im running the More aggressive 4.3 . No issues so far. Thats on Myn's rs4

Here is a screen shot from battery monitor widget.

Does it seem normal yet? Im going to let it sit obviously over night but for now. I see like high negatives but then its goes down then back up
[EVO 4G Android Development] dcharleyultra:
No it does not. Your battery is draining once it hits 100%.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mwielgosz:
Well that answers a TON of questions on my behalf. Thanks for this response.

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[EVO 4G Android Development] nuggyunlimited:
Yea he does the 4.2 cfs but that one disabled my camera but I still sticked with it after.the new update I been using the new htc kernel. Just wanted some suggestions and two know the meaning those different kinds of kernels
[EVO 4G Android Development] netarchy:
Ahh yea, the newer camera is only supported in 4.3.

The changelog is in the first post if you want to know what changed between the revisions.

4.3 is basically 4.2.2 + camera driver + sbc + misc optimizations + the souls of 1000 rabid naked bunnies (the most important part ofc).
[EVO 4G Android Development] mroneeyedboh:
Ok hre is an updated screenie.Doest seem right

Or does it take over night to really take effect? I also have jucie defender on, would that kill to? Im sure its going to be running some what to keep the stuff killed ( keep it from starting up )
[EVO 4G Android Development] mwielgosz:
You have to run it a few hours once it hits 100%. Then you'll start seeing positive single digit ma when charging. When it gets there, your battery is as charged as its going to get.

Things like juice defender shouldn't cause a problem but you really shouldn't need it with this kernel and a good phone configuration

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[EVO 4G Android Development] mroneeyedboh:
/\ What do you mean in terms of a good phone config? I should run anything liek setcpu because well the kernel is doing all fo the HAVs ya know?

Also my icon doesnt show that its charging anymore.. is that right?
[EVO 4G Android Development] mwielgosz:
What I mean is to keep track of what radios you have on, keep mobile data always enabled off, no live wallpaper, etc. It is said set CPU is not necessary with the havs kernels but I use it to monitor my CPU scaling and to set a moderate off screen profile. Most recommend against using it at all though... personal preference.

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[EVO 4G Android Development] danman132x:
Didn't really get an answer to this. But someone also said..

Which I find strange because I have hardware 0004, again with netarchy-toastmod-4.1.9.1-cfs-havs-universally compatible (Aggressive undervolting)*

But since the newest kernel code has been release, I think I'm going to flash the latest now.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mic402:
Finally! I've had the 0004 evo for a few months now and been waiting forever to use this kernel. Awesome job man!
[EVO 4G Android Development] mcmikecruz1:
I Been using ms's sbc modded Netarchy kernels for awhile now , but ever since v5 mod my charging light turns green at 92-93% is this normal ?

Sorry if this has been asked before , keeping up with to many threads thanks .

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[EVO 4G Android Development] Product F(RED):
So from what I understand, Static Undervolting doesn't use HAVS, but instead has lower voltages "set in stone". In other words, it's like stock, except it uses lower voltage per frequency, right?
[EVO 4G Android Development] mroneeyedboh:
I believe you re right

"No Havs: Static voltage scaling, every cpu speed pulls a specific amount of power from the battery, no variation"
[EVO 4G Android Development] bkrodgers:
Second that. I'm not sold on the charging hack. As much as I'd love the extra power trickle charging gives me when I start the day, everything I've read indicates that it's not good for the battery. The fact that nobody puts out devices that include it would support that. I do believe that the most likely result is simply that the battery won't last for as many charging cycles. I can live with that, but I haven't decided yet whether I want to take the risk (however small) that something worse could happen. I know there are other threads debating that argument, but I just wanted to chime in here in hopes net will still offer the choice of SBC or stock charging behavior.
[EVO 4G Android Development] netarchy:
I can do that.

I'll get some stock charger builds up later, still gotta make the bfs builds too ;D

Busy busy busy!
[EVO 4G Android Development] DGreen1:
Why am I only getting around 3.5 mflops on the newer 4.3 kernals?
[EVO 4G Android Development] mwielgosz:
To someone with 0003 hardware running netarchy 4.3 cfs more havs sbc (preferably using conservative governor but not necessary):

For comparison purposes, would you please be so kind as to post a screenshot or log file of battery monitor widget using 3g ONLY (no gps, 4g, wifi, tether, etc.)? I need about an hour or two of consistant usage in the log to compare results to.

The reason being that it would seem that im using much more battery using 4.3 cfs more havs sbc than I did using 4.2.2 cfs more havs sbc. Most of the time while home, I was on wifi (which could easily be why im using more power while on 3g) but I don't have any good logs on 3g with the older kernel. I realize this is a lengthy request, but I feel its possible this could be affecting more people besides myself if it holds to be true.

Thank you so very much.

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[EVO 4G Android Development] Jbcarrera:
?????????:o. That ain't right

Sent from my EVO at the edge of hell
[EVO 4G Android Development] notasimpleway:
I am not getting 3.5 mflops but I am getting much lower scores with 4.3. Averaging 28 @ 998. On stock # 15 I get about 33 average.

Sent from my iPhone with the bigger Gee Bees.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mwielgosz:
Wanted to add that im getting on average around a -350 to -400mA drop which is more than double that I used to get on 4.2.2 using wifi. That seems very high to me...even for switching to 3g. Also, my phone isnt sleeping correctly...its intermittent and tracking down the culprit is proving to be very difficult. Can anyone compare?

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[EVO 4G Android Development] frifox:
Nova... but nvm, it was a false alarm. did a hard reset and everything's back to silky smooth :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] mykenyc:
I'm running hardware 0003 and having the flicker/distorted problem happened tried to NOHAVS and NOUV
[EVO 4G Android Development] intheb0x:
let the kernel settle for a few days, then do some comparing.
[EVO 4G Android Development] THunDA:
Updated from 4.2.2 (more) to 4.3 (more) and it seems to be running well for me, no issues that I see so far.
[EVO 4G Android Development] abanh:
Updated from 4.2.2 to 4.3 last night. I always charge up the phone to 100% and then take it off the charger when I goto sleep. With the old kernel I would wake up and the phone would have 95%-97% battery, with 4.3 I woke up and the battery was at 68%. Checking battery history in spare parts shows the screen was on less than 1% of the time, and the phone was running about 3% of the time. That means the phone was sleeping and the battery was still draining.

This is on hardware 2 using havs cfs less aggressive undervolting. This is the same combo I've been using since your 4.1.9. kernel.
[EVO 4G Android Development] soundwavedj:
Same for me. Literally
[EVO 4G Android Development] dcharleyultra:
As others have said, give your phone 2 days or so of "work" to let the changes settle in.

Swyped from my Evo 4G using Tapatalk
[EVO 4G Android Development] bkrodgers:
Thanks net! You are awesome!
[EVO 4G Android Development] wfrandy:
Cool, as the stock charging, havs, less undervolting would be perfect for me.

Waiting patiently.
[EVO 4G Android Development] sw99:
I had noticed this with everyone of the battery tweaked kernels on the other thread (i.e. all of Netarchy's except 4.1.9.1) I had found that the phone would crash in middle of the night and come back up on trickle charge. I know the phone crashed, because whenever it does my 4G fails to start.

For the record, with 0002 hardware, only 4.1.9.1 treats me well, I've always had unresponsiveness on the other kernels. Not trying 4.3 yet.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mroneeyedboh:
Well i killed JD just to make sure it wasnt pulling battery power for some odd reason. I let it around 8-9 hours and Im still at low negative numbers...

So that means it didnt do **** for me. Now what?

BTW im on net's 4.3 beta SBC Agg. HAVs
[EVO 4G Android Development] intheb0x:
Same for me as well.

But I'm the one that said let your phone stay with that kernel for a few days to see if it gets better.

But as of right now I'm getting lots of drain on. 4.3 more, more drain then I've ever gotten on 4.22
[EVO 4G Android Development] Biofall:
So I'm jc Net, what sold you on the new trickle charging implementation? There's no way that it doesn't do SOMETHING negative to the battery, and current information suggests it degrades overall battery life. (not trying to start a debate in here, just wondering Net's opinion everyone)

I think if you displayed a firm belief one way or the other, many people would change their ideas regarding this
[EVO 4G Android Development] sgt. slaughter:
the low negative numbers are good. shows ur phone isn't pulling ur battery down. the trickle charge is seen when u get close to full charge and u should see only small positive numbers while still on the charger.
[EVO 4G Android Development] sgt. slaughter:
Ifi had to venture out to guess he decided that the current performance increase outweighed the long term battery abuse(which is still a theory at this point anyway). From what is said it seems worst case is u would start seeing battery performance drop after 2yrs or more. Now 2yrs on the same battery none the less the same phone(most will be gone from evo sometime next 1-2yr i bet) is a long time imho and well worth the extra use we get in the present time.
[EVO 4G Android Development] :
The thing is phones degrade over time anyway. Atleast this way you're getting your moneys worth while you're still using it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] slugbug2010:
My 4g came on last night and I think it happened at 4 a.m.

I am not sure if this is because of the theme or the net4.3sbc kernel. It's not the rom, I've checked there and no one else is experiencing this. I am 1000% positive that under wireless/settings that 4g was and has been unchecked ...... well always. But I looked today and it was checked. After I unchecked, checked, unchecked and rebooted, it went away.

I made sure to look at alogcat last night after I flashed the theme and there were no wimax red/green errors, but there WERE some blue wimax things runnings, I didn't know what they were.

I am using the net 4.3 with the sbc and noticed my mAs were (-) when I woke up - so I looked at history and saw that for some reason at 4 a.m. my zeroes turned to (-)s. I don't know my way around this stuff very well but apparently something happened at 4 a.m. and my 4g got turned on.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mroneeyedboh:
you sure? Not saying youre wrong just wondering because Ive seen in Ms79737's thread he said we should see nothing but positive numbers after a full night of charging..
[EVO 4G Android Development] intheb0x:
Just a update, I'm not even at. 4 hours yet and I'm already down to 53%, this is the worse i've ever gotten with any kernel and I'm unsure if I can stick with it for these couple days.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mroneeyedboh:
Whcih one are you running? Are you running an sbc?
[EVO 4G Android Development] traybent:
How can I get another lock screen??
[EVO 4G Android Development] slugbug2010:
I had great success last night when I first flashed it. Charged to 100, waited until it got to 0mAs. Off charger and it stayed at 100% for almost 3 hours. Then I did some flashing (rom, theme, etc) and plugged it in to go to bed and and charge over night. I dropped from 100% to 75% within a few hours after moderate use this morning.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mwielgosz:
I agree...my battery drain is too high and the life is too short for me to continue to use this for even a few days. Very strange, but im wondering if it may have something to do with the new camera drivers like htc kernel #17...

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[EVO 4G Android Development] Swede2008:
Is it bad that after I charge the phone all night, it never goes down to 0 mA? Lowest it's gone is 6 mA

Sent from my HTC Evo! :-D
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
Nope thats good, normally its charging at the 200+ range
[EVO 4G Android Development] intheb0x:
Yea, the 4,23 sbc more havs aggressive.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mroneeyedboh:
from what Ive been reading it needs ot stay in the positives all night not one single negative. If youre getting negatives then its showing draining from somewhere... Mine has not stayed at negative fo long. It will go into high positive mVs but then go low and then low negative mVs ( -6, -8 etc ) and then back to 0mV..

4.3 or 4.2.1? lol Im running the 4.3 beta and This is a screen shot, still doesnt seem right
[EVO 4G Android Development] intheb0x:
I had awesome success with #17, im on a 0003 with old camera. Best was 18-20hours moderate usage.
[EVO 4G Android Development] intheb0x:
Sorry. 4.3 beta
[EVO 4G Android Development] intheb0x:
Here's my screen shot.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mwielgosz:
I have the same phone and when #17 came out, I was charging my phone 3-4 times daily. I never saw such horrendous battery life. It was a well known problem as some rom devs started pushing out updates based on hardware version. 3.29 for <= 0003 and 3.30 for 0004.

Now I have an extended battery and Ive been using the sbc kernels for awhile. Since I've had it, I've never.even came close to draining my battery completely (and I use my phone quite often)...until yesterday when I had to charge it twice...and burned through both full charges.

Just my experience, but I ended up flashing back to what works for me at the moment, although id be willing to try other versions.

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[EVO 4G Android Development] jelive:
Just posted a note to you on SBC thread but now that I see your history it's not that out of ordinary...goes to 0 then drains some, trickle kicks in and goes back to zero, etc.

Edit...I don't charge overnight...just plug in when needed, get to 0mA and pull off charger and go.

Jim
[EVO 4G Android Development] intheb0x:
Nice, what kind of extended battery?
[EVO 4G Android Development] mwielgosz:
I have the Sprint Extended 2600mAh. Premier customers get it for a great price, and im not putting a cheap chinese battery into my expensive phone lol. Can't complain at all.

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[EVO 4G Android Development] intheb0x:
I may look into getting that. I get 25% off my bill and all accessories. So does that mean I'm a "premier"customery?
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
It's based on your plan
[EVO 4G Android Development] soundwavedj:
Are the other kernels such as the 4.1.9.1 going to be updated to sbc or should we flash from the other thread.

BTW the 4.3 is totally killing my battery. Only problem I've ever had with these kernels they've always been awesome
[EVO 4G Android Development] jelive:
If you don't need the new camera drivers for newer camera chip then you could try the 4.2.2 V7 from SBC site...similar to Nets 4.3 but w/o drivers.

Jim
[EVO 4G Android Development] mroneeyedboh:
the drivers wouldnt be causing issues with the SBc would it?
[EVO 4G Android Development] mwielgosz:
The new drivers wouldn't be causing issues with sbc itself.

Id really like confirmation on the following, I would even run controlled tests to prove or disprove...that its MY belief that the new camera drivers cause issues on some older hardware resulting in rapid battery drain.

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[EVO 4G Android Development] Dan330:
Hi

Thank you so much....

I have been waiting for the release for my camera and my

Overclocking to work on my newer evo..

Thanks for such a fast update