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[EVO 4G Android Development] dag16:
So, I'm not sure if this is a kernel or a rom issue. A friend and I are both running 4.3.2 havs no sbc more aggressive and the latest burnt droid rom. Both of us have noticed that if we reboot our phone, it gets stuck at the evo startup screen, and the only way to get beyond it is to reboot to recovery and wipe dalvik.

Has anyone else seen anything like this?

Thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] mildlydisturbed:
Have the exact same problem with Sprint Lovers and this kernel. I can choose to power off, then power back on, no problem. But if I choose to reboot it's dalvik wiping time.

Posted problem on SL, he said it was a kernel issue and to post it here, posted it here and had someone say it was a SL specific issue... pretty sure it's the kernel not behaving but could be wrong.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xHausx:
I got stock on the splash screen once or twice myself. Very first time I rebooted after flashing 4.3.2 cfs havs more no sbc and then once after restoring a nandroid. The second time may have been something else though.

I'm using a mostly stock rom.
[EVO 4G Android Development] casper97ta:
Anyone else running Net-Toast kernels have the problem of not being able to reboot into recovery without pulling the battery? On stock kernels I can hot reboot, recovery and it works perfect but as soon as i flash a net kernel and try it, it freezes on the htc screen and i have to pull the battery and do power and volume down.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
i have never had to do a battery pull for a reboot, you might be OC'd too high or something
[EVO 4G Android Development] dag16:
I never have till I upgraded to latest kernel. I don't oc, so that wouldn't be it. The kernel is the only change
[EVO 4G Android Development] mildlydisturbed:
I did at one point on a different combo than I'm running now... I believe it was MORE HAVS BFS SBC but I had to get rid of that with the 4g issue. Do not have that on NOHAVS NOUV CFS
[EVO 4G Android Development] gpz1100:
It may be a combination of roms/kernels, but indeed I've run into this lock up too.

Trick is to power down instead of rebooting after the first bootup. Reboot into recovery with home+ vol down, clear dalvik cache, then reboot. From there on, you should be good to go.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mildlydisturbed:
3 day lockup update weirdness

Last night was a pretty crappy night for my phone - it was running slowly and generally behaving like a punk. I put it away and this morning got a couple of phone calls and then the phone rebooted while I was holding it.

Booted up fine, no issues, was responsive again. I decided to check a couple of things as I'd had issues the day before with a service called logwrapper using 7-15% cpu. Nothing seemed to be overly nutty, checked to make sure my PRI was at 1.7 again (did that a couple of days back) and just for ****s and giggles checked the battery.

It claimed the uptime was 23 hours at that point, which meant it would have rebooted at 10am the previous day, which it didn't as I was using it.

Any clues?

4.3.2 CFS NOHAVS NOSUV SBC

HW 003

SL 1/26

Seido 3500mAh
[EVO 4G Android Development] HipKat:
I think I may have finally gotten my terrible battery life stabilized with the kernel in my sig (4.3.2 CFS havs SBC less).

I'm gonna run this for a few days, and then maybe try a few other 4.3.2 CFS kernels and see which works out the best. Tomorrow, I'll be able to let it drain completely, the nrecharge and clear bat stats (Gotta work tonight so I need the phone charged)
[EVO 4G Android Development] casper97ta:
not overclocked at all

that is the same combo im running. I dont want to change kernels cause this is what works best for me thats why ive dealt with the reboot issue so far. I was just curious if anybody has found a fix?
[EVO 4G Android Development] rdhddmazoku:
Having a little issue with this kernel. I read posts elsewhere of higher frequencies, but I can't seem to get them to work. I have the HTC EVO from Sprint with the latest stock rom that has radio 2.15.00.11.19. The kernel (netarchy-toastmod-4.3.1-bfs-havs-nosbc-universal-signed) works ok until I try to overclock it with Overclock Widget. As soon as I raise it a little, it freezes after around 10s after successfully setting it and I have to remove the battery. Yes I did wipe the dalvik-cache...many many times. Tried reflashing a few times as well.

I did some more testing and here is what I found

Base: 998400 - Works fine

1036800 - ok

1075200 - ok

1113600 - ok

1152000 - Sense crashes. Screen eventually freezes. Phone reboots itself. This is the frequency I have been aiming for.

1190400 - Freezes as soon as I try to set it and reboots. It does this for speeds higher as well.

Should I try a different version? Use something else besides OC Widget? Or is this normal and the other people who were able to get stability at 1.15 and 1.2 not reliable? Still pretty new to custom kernels so excuse my ignorance. Just switched to the EVO from the HERO so having to relearn a few things.
[EVO 4G Android Development] gpz1100:
If you raise the cpu frequency, you may need to jack the voltage up a little too. It's just like overclocking on the pc. The issue here is, are the gains worth the price - more heat and faster battery drain. Some cpu's work at higher frequencies using standard voltages, some even work undervolted, while others require more. No way to tell without experimenting. Don't go overboard though, too high voltage can potentially fry the cpu.

You may also want to test with a cfs kernel for greater stability.
[EVO 4G Android Development] rdhddmazoku:
Will try out the CFS one, though I don't know how to raise the voltage with OC Widget. I will also try SetPCU 2.10 and see if that makes any difference.

Results:

SetPCU with netarchy-toastmod-4.3.1-bfs-havs-nosbc-universal-signed

1113600 - ok

1152000 - sense crashes, phone reboots itself.

SetPCU with netarchy-toastmod-4.3.1-cfs-havs-nosbc-universal-signed

same results.

Think I will just be happy with 1113600 and call it a day. Thanks for your help gpz1100
[EVO 4G Android Development] gpz1100:
You'll need a kernel that supports voltage adjustment. I'm not sure where these settings are kept in net's kernel though. You would need either a static or one with no undervolting at all. Ziggy's kernels have support for vdd adjustment too.
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
Did you try a no HAVS kernel? You may be right on the voltage margin for your CPU. I believe 4.3.2 has a no HAVS and noUV CFS kernel. Try that one for additional troubleshooting.

From my EVO when I should probably be doing something else instead.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
1. You can't modify the CPU voltages, those i believe are hard coded into the kernel by the dev and cannot be modified, you modify the CPU speed with widget/apps etc

2. All phones handle OC'ing differently on different kernels. My rule of thumb is never to apply at boot until i get a stable CPU speed down, if it bogs down or reboots, your probably too fast for your phone
[EVO 4G Android Development] andnad:
I've been able to overclock at 1152000 just fine actually. I'm using the 4.3.2 cfs sbc havs more kernel on a 004 evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] badengrish:
I'm trying 4.3.2 (More Aggressive HAVS)and getting pretty decent battery life currently with normal usage. I'm on PRL 1.90 right now.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mildlydisturbed:
I've been able to run at whatever is 2 higher than the 1152000 setting. My battery or phone got kind of warmish at that point so I backed it off...

Am noticing without any cpu management it seems to run faster than when overclocking... so leaving it unmanaged for a bit and seeing how things run
[EVO 4G Android Development] brol1k:
Which is ziggys latest kernel?

Tapatalk'd on Evo
[EVO 4G Android Development] live2ride96:
The one with the most recent date (seriously, I think they should all be dated) .

Sent from my MikFroyo'd, custom Chogardjr'd Evo, plain and simple.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
yup under android development

linky
[EVO 4G Android Development] freeza:
netarchy, would you consider including voodoo color in the next kernel update so that I can use the LCD calibration app from the Nexus One forums to fix my LCD's color? :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] PrFectOne:
http://www.ziggy471.com/
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
Isn't it kind of a slap in the face to netarchy to discuss ziggy's kernels in his thread? Just saying.
[EVO 4G Android Development] stricklerjosh:
+1

Koni's Elite is where it's at!
[EVO 4G Android Development] :
No. Why? This isn't some cut-throat business or competition. Share and share alike. Freedom of Choice. I would hope that if someone didn't like Netarchy kernels that he would be happy to help or have others help share alternatives.

Now, it is off-topic... but that's something else totally and up to Netarchy/Mods to worry about how to handle it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
I'm not saying that. I was referring to the question of "what is ziggy's newest kernel" which I think is out of place in this thread.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Nyckrs:
i am unable to update profile and prl. is there anyway to fix this? im using 4.3.2 less havs kernal
[EVO 4G Android Development] mildlydisturbed:
if you got an error saying some process force closed and then it's just a really long delay anytime you try to do those, just reboot and the very first thing try updating.

Seems like it was something.smithmicro.something that crashes and then doesn't allow for profile updating till a reboot.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Nyckrs:
ok will try that and report back.

ok i restarted and waited to boot back up, right away i tried updating profile. It worked!. but kinda annoying if i have to do that every time.
[EVO 4G Android Development] PrFectOne:
you're right, it is kinda ou of place but these devs actually work together and help each other out. I try Ziggy's kernels all the time but keep coming back to netarchy's for one reason or another. Sometimes you need to compare things to stay confident in your choices instead of it being a blind religious battle. Netarchy produces what is arguably the "standard" kernel that all other evo kernels have been compared to.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
Agreed. It's pretty hard to argue with 16 choices per version :).
[EVO 4G Android Development] mildlydisturbed:
Nope, not every time, there's a series of events that seems to happen between rom, kernel, etc in order for that particular application to not work / require reboot. We saw it on stock kernels too, so it's not kernel specific... just one of two very badly written programs, the other being whatever handles ##DATA#
[EVO 4G Android Development] joehunni:
I know I'm gonna sound like a tard for asking this but here goes... How, in yall's personal opinion, do these kernels (no sbc, no havs) specifically, compare to the stock #15 htc kernel? A quick outline of the differences or whatever would be nice.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mildlydisturbed:
It's better. overclock and underclock. SD card fix built in. 5-point multitouch. More responsive.

Make a nandroid backup, then try it out, if you don't like it just flash back or restore your nandroid.
[EVO 4G Android Development] shad0w77:
not necessarily. i mean yeah, quadrant reports better scores. but w/ the kernel i am using in my sig, my screen animations are much more smooth and fluid. battery life is great too.

not knocking the net kernels, they are fantastic, but every1's phone and preferences are different.

might wanna try them both out for a few days and see how u like em.
[EVO 4G Android Development] gpz1100:
Shadow, what governor are you using? What settings?
[EVO 4G Android Development] xfullmetal17:
I'm getting a bit of screen tearing with the latest MIUI and 4.3.1 (CFS, no SBC, no HAVS). I didn't have them with the kernel baked into the ROM, so I'm guessing it's this kernel. I can live with it for the most part until 4.3.2 is stable, but would it be messing anything else up?
[EVO 4G Android Development] stricklerjosh:
If im not mistaken these are sense kernels and miui is an aosp rom. Try some of the aosp kernels instead.

Koni's Elite is where it's at!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Zorachus:
Best battery Kernel for Warm-Z ?

So which netarchy Kernel goes best with the new Warm-Z ROM ? The stock setup ( Warm-Z kernel, + PRI 1.90_003 ) installed from Warm-Z is killing my battery. I was at 100% charge this morning waking up, surfed the XDA forums on WiFi while going to wash room, and not even 10-15min later battery down to 88% already.

Should I flash back to PRI 1.77_003 ?

Should I also flash NV_1.77_003 ?

And which Netarchy Kernel ?

Thank you
[EVO 4G Android Development] CheesyNutz:
im new to the static undervolting .. do i need to have a profile set up under setcpu for screenoff ?
[EVO 4G Android Development] johnnyboy14981:
Please help

I know this has probably been answered but I went through and didn't find it in this thread (but there are over 600 posts...lol) Can someone either point me in the right direction where I can findout or explain what "BFS", "HAVS", "cfs", mean. like whats tha advantage to having something with HAVS vs no HAVS. Again I am sure this has been asked just couldn't find the post and don't want to load the best kernal for me. I am getting HORRIBLE battery life. I have the Calkulin 1.6.2 Rom with the 2.15.00.11.19 baseband and downgraded to 1.77 pri. Any help is very much appreciated. Thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] Nnyan:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=894880
[EVO 4G Android Development] Nnyan:
I get this occasionally with some ROMS. First make sure you go through a few recharge cycles (sometimes it's only the first cycle or two then battery life gets better). You just need to test, what works well with one phone doesn't work well with another. Add in different ROMs and it's even more complicated.

Make sure you test battery life with very little/no use and moderate/heavy use for at least one battery life cycle.
[EVO 4G Android Development] :
he is correct ... FULLMETAL you are using the WRONG kernel - you need an AOSP FROYO KERNEL
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
Donated!

Net, your kernels have been working well with my phone since 4.2.2. Keep up the great work and thank you for unlocking the potential of our phones!:D
[EVO 4G Android Development] beezy69:
someone link me to a good kernal for myns twopointwo rsl5...i wanna update mines, been using 2.6.32.25-netarchy-toastmod-4.2.1-cfs-bfq-havs-more-smartass
[EVO 4G Android Development] supers2k:
I'm in a predicament. on WARM Z When I use PRI/NV 1.90 my 3g speeds are 800-1100 sitting at my desk in my house but my uptime and awake are almost the same.

I use PRI/NV 1.77 and my 3g speeds are 300-500kbps but my awake/uptime is back to normal what do you guys recomend?
[EVO 4G Android Development] :
almost the same is better then THE SAME ... most people switch from 1.90 to 1.77 for the purpose of battery life.

i say pick - either speed over battery or vise verse
[EVO 4G Android Development] PrFectOne:
Really? you can't find the OP yourself?

Try the << button at the top of the forum threads.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mutant13:
LOL.... this might help, take yer pick

http://www.qap.la/~netarchy/
[EVO 4G Android Development] Sypris:
4.3.2 (less havs) doesn't seem to play nice with Warm-Z. It might been the ROM though. I was having issues with my CPU clock being floored to 1.113GHz, with my min/max at 245/1113MHz on Smartass. Changing the profile didn't work to fix it. It might be a ROM issue though.

4.3.1 seems to be working better.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Swede2008:
No issues for me on the more havs version

Sent from my HTC Evo! :-D
[EVO 4G Android Development] Sypris:
Why is my clock speed being jacked up then? I've tried three kernels.

Ending all tasks with SystemPanel helps, for a bit.
[EVO 4G Android Development] gpz1100:
Sypris, check the contents of your init.d folder... I bet some script in there is raising your speeds.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bignibb:
Do you think you can put the new hdmi hack in a sbc kernel?
[EVO 4G Android Development] detcup4evr:
Looks like there is one now (Second Post)

new kernel based off of SBC v7 4.2.2

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=972585&page=1
[EVO 4G Android Development] mij863:
New to Kernels

He i just flashed Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo RLS 5 and on a site that helped me root and flash the rom, it said i should flash netarchy-toastmod-4.3.1-cfs-havs-nosbc-universal-signed.zip. What does a kernel do and is this a good kernel for htc evo??? Are their any negative effects of flashing this kernel????
[EVO 4G Android Development] freeza:
I wonder why they chose such an old version of the kernel
[EVO 4G Android Development] mutant13:
The link below should answer most of your kernel questions... read the whole thing... Hope this helps

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=894880
[EVO 4G Android Development] jlip5617:
Very nice link... it has me trying new kernels again :-)

Sent from my BadSeed Cyan Themed MikFroyo 4.5 Evo
[EVO 4G Android Development] VisedMonk:
Short answer -- a kernel links your hardware, like the cpu and memory, to the software so you can run software.

IMAO, these kernels are great on the evo, but your mileage may vary. Every phone seems to react a bit different to each kernel. That's why, in kernel threads, you see some people who swear by a kernel and think its the best ever and others who say the kernel sucks. There's not really a "negative" from flashing a kernel, and it isn't something that you should worry about bricking your phone. You just may not get the performance you expect; if that's your experience after a couple of days, just flash a new kernel and see if it's better.

Read the link @mutant13 posted. It's a really good thread and one you should probably bookmark.

When I flash a kernel, this is what I do:

1. Download kernel and place .zip on root of sd card (not in any folder)

2. Boot into recovery

3. Nandroid (Amon_RA's recovery, not Clockwork)

4. Wipe cache

5. Wipe Dalvik cache

6. Repeat steps 4 and 4

7. Flash kernel

8. Reboot (initial boot with new kernel may take a bit longer than normal)

9. Enjoy (hopefully)

Most kernels that you flash will wipe the cache and Dalvik for you, but I do it manually too. It doesn't take long to do and can prevent problems from a bad flash.

My advice, from what I've picked up from this community, is to try different kernels. Flash one through recovery and go 2 or 3 days with it to see how your phone performs, what your battery life is like, whether you get screen tearing, whether your launcher is snappy, whether your phone seems laggy, etc. The reason you need to wait a couple of days to flash a new kernel is that it takes a bit for your phone and kernel to "settle in. Eventually you'll find a kernel you like and that balances performance and battery life.

Hope this helps, and welcome to Net's kernels!
[EVO 4G Android Development] parousia15:
It net done with the evo? Looks like he's on tmobile making kernels for the nexus s.
[EVO 4G Android Development] freeza:
Ugh, I think you're right.

I wanted voodoo color / fullhdmi added to this kernel!!!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] madskills384:
I'm currently using 4.3.2 bfs kernel just curious what governor are you guys using to get best battery/proformance?
[EVO 4G Android Development] mildlydisturbed:
I don't change govs from default, that seems to be the best all around. I think that's the conservative gov.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mrwicked:
I have tried all the 4.3.1 cfs stable sbc and no sbc kernels, 4.3.2 betas and everytime they just cause my phone to reboot or freeze. Any sugesstions? I have setcpu installed but am not overclocking. The only successfull kernel I have flashed is sbc htc #15 by ms.

Thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] bacidath:
i removed setcpu and that fixed the freeze reboot issue for me... using 4.3.2 bfs more havs
[EVO 4G Android Development] mnsportsguy1978:
Is this stable for aosp?
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
It's meant for sense-based ROMs and isn't recommended for aosp. That doesn't mean it won't work but people have had issues with aosp in the past.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mnsportsguy1978:
Thanks because I was having issues using cm7
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
Yup, I would recommend a "made for aosp" kernel. I would suggest one but I've never used one.
[EVO 4G Android Development] fr0st420:
Yea seems like he isn't dev'ing for the evo anymore... that sucks. I only use net's kernels.
[EVO 4G Android Development] brol1k:
Damn sucks, we have no one building kernels for the evo no more?

Tapped on XDA Premium
[EVO 4G Android Development] gpz1100:
I'd say the latest batch of kernels are extremely stable and provide enough variety to satisfy most. If it's not broke, it's not going to get fixed :) If you need something out of the ordinary, maybe the best option is to compile it yourself.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mildlydisturbed:
Sadly the BFS on 4.3.2 is broke with 4g and still not fixed :(
[EVO 4G Android Development] gpz1100:
MD, you're right! I forgot about the BFS variety. I gave up on that shortly after trying. Phone wasn't as smooth with it, and seemed choppy (same governor settings as cfs). Went to the cfs and haven't looked back.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xHausx:
He mentions in the op these should work for aosp but cm7 is a gingerbread build where these are made for froyo
[EVO 4G Android Development] akarol:
Noooo... I lost 5-point multitouch. Only 2-point now. Any way I can get it back? I'm on Myn's 2.2 RLS 5. :(
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
Unfortunately, it seems to be hit-or-miss. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. The kernels definitely support it though. I'm on 4.3.2-cfs-sbc-havs-more and MikFroYo 4.5 and I have 5-point working fine.
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
I'm running net 4.3.1 cfs havs sbc on Mik 4.5, 4.6beta, and Elite 2. I only have 2 point on all 3. Good thing I don't really need the 3rd or 5th touch, otherwise I'd be pissed.

If you go back to Fresh, do you get 5 pt back? What about CM7?
[EVO 4G Android Development] akarol:
That's what I'm wondering. I hear it can be beneficial in some games. I'd like to have it just cuz.

I am on hardware 004, what about you?
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
Your sig says 003, maybe time for an update? I'm on 003.
[EVO 4G Android Development] akarol:
Yeah, I have to update it. Ugh... this is bothering me. :(
[EVO 4G Android Development] gotshores:
Weirdest thing I found out today. I previously had amon_ra 1.8 and never lost 5 point touch. I flash the latest 2.3 amon ra, then flash a net kernel and lose 5 point. I flash 1.8 back then flash the netarchy kernel and I have 5 point back.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jlip5617:
I have a question. Why does anybody need 5 pt touch. I mean I have it but have never actually had any use for it that I know of. Just curious

Sent from my BadSeed Cyan Themed MikFroyo 4.5 Evo
[EVO 4G Android Development] gotshores:
Some apps can take advantage of it. It's really not a huge deal, bragging rights maybe? :-)
[EVO 4G Android Development] jlip5617:
Well that's kinda what I thought, just makin sure I wasn't missin out on some game or App that really took advantage of it

Sent from my BadSeed Cyan Themed MikFroyo 4.5 Evo
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
I think it's mostly for emulators. I never really use it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
That IS strange :confused:...... I'm using Amon_RA 2.3 and still have 5.
[EVO 4G Android Development] gotshores:
wish we could nail it down. oh well, at least it isn't a evo life or death situation :p
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
Lol. If that's your biggest problem, I would say you have it pretty good :D.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cb7tuner93:
Is NET still developing?
[EVO 4G Android Development] akarol:
I play N64 and SNES emulation games and it does make a huge difference IMHO.
[EVO 4G Android Development] freeza:
yes, just not for us any longer. I've sent a pm like a week ago. no response.