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[XPERIA X10 General] marajin:
Yeah people are seeing about 48 hours average standby with the newest firmware (I might note that before debranding the newest my phone would update to was R1BA016! What the hell are o2 UK doing?) however mine is now at like 60 hours and still counting. Getting close to the threshold at 20% battery remaining but still.. more than acceptable now.

Usage:

Little bit of music playback, about 30 minutes..

bunch of missed calls

constant push emails (my exchange account is pretty busy, it'll see dozens of mails per working day), several of which I reply to...

about 30 minutes of talk time

alarm clock every morning

few apps from the marketplace downloaded/installed

few minutes of webbrowsing

about 10-12 photos.

roughly 10 minutes of video recorded.
[XPERIA X10 General] hondaguy:
setcpu will help out your battery, but the r2 firmware greatly improves on the r1 firmware in terms of battery life. i am not rooted and if i leave my phone unplugged and with wifi off the battery life barely changes at all while sitting at idle.

did you have the r2 firmware before rooting? i bet most of the improvement is coming from the updated firmware
[XPERIA X10 General] vatis24:
I fully charged my mobile and after 5 minutes i lost 5% of battery i dont know why but firmware . 23 seemz thats not working for me , i will keep it for a bit but already thinking to go on . 20 again. I domt know if i am doing something wrong.
[XPERIA X10 General] Paragon:
Wow!!!! Battery life absolutely sucks.

I have a Rogers X10. I just picked it up yesterday, so I have done nothing to it yet. It is now almost 5:00 PM where I am and it is dead. I have not even made a call on it. I have not turned on Wifi. I have not turned on Bluetooth. The display is set at about 50% Email is not set to poll. I have surfed a bit. I have sent and received a couple of texts, and downloaded a couple of apps. Otherwise I have just explorered the phone a bit....not a lot.

I'm returning it tomorrow unless you guys have some great ideas. I'm a bit hesitant to root it and flash a ROM of any kind because of the fact that I may return it. I will gladly root, annd flash if I'm confident I can improve the battery life.....and not underclock the processor to any great extent.
[XPERIA X10 General] youngace2k5:
how u install it
[XPERIA X10 General] erilis:
What is the firmware on? If it's on R1FA014 then update it ASAP you'll get about twice the amount of battery life you currently get.
[XPERIA X10 General] andy8271:
most people found that it takes about a week for the battery to be going at full capacity

and then the r2b...20 update pretty much double my battery again

with everything except gps/bt on i easily get over a day and a half , thats 3g , push email , auto screen brightness , wifi on when the screens on

your most likely using the old firmware which has issues where it uses a lot of power when on standby. with the latest official SE update my phone maybe a 1% per hour when on standby. im very impressed

i dont use anything that needs root to achieve this.

oh and if your worried about warranty then you should still have a warrant with SE if you debrand and use there own updates from SEUS . i did this myself (debranded from uk vodafone) and when i broke my usb port they swapped my phone no problems
[XPERIA X10 General] Paragon:
thanks guys. I have no idea what firmware is on it. I'll check when I get home and plug it in. Do you have a link to Se's latest firmware, or to debrand it?

Dave
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
you don't need a link.. go into settings, about phone, software update.. update now...

or it's it's not available over the air then you should try downloading SEUS (Sony Ericsson Update Software).. and follow the on screen instructions.. sometimes the update come out on one of those before the other.. also bear in mind that the new firmware hasn't completed it's rollout yet so may not be available for your region or brand yet..

Check out the other thread that lornova started which shows where, and which brands the update has reached so far.
[XPERIA X10 General] lewisskinner:
How do I find which software version I have? I'm on Orange UK and have done run an over-air update (which did provide me with some update) but my battery life is still poor - unplugged at 10am today and it died at about 11pm.

I don;t mind de-branding or rooting my phone if that's what I need to fix the battery life. How do I go about this?

Will rooting also effectively de-brand my phone? It is difficult to see any Orange branding anyway! Would this help battery life? What other benefits does rooting have?

Sorry, I'm a bit of an Android novice (almost 18 months on WinMo 6.1!)
[XPERIA X10 General] Paragon:
Thanks, I'm on Rogers in Canada so there is no OTA, just went to SE's site and grabbed it. I'll charge it overnight and see how tomorrow goes....thanks for the help.

Dave
[XPERIA X10 General] hondaguy:
first thing you should do is plug into seus and update to the r2 firmware, next thing you can try is to download a home screen replacement launcher from the market as I have read that this also helps to improve battery life. I use adw.launcher, it is free and works great.

I have owned the milestone, HTC magic, nexus 1 and the x10a and all of them needed several battery cycles to break in the battery
[XPERIA X10 General] bimmerboii:
The R2Bxxx update has changed the phone a lot in terms of performance. Im quite happy with my x10 now and I wouldnt bother rooting it. My 2cents..
[XPERIA X10 General] lunarken:
ya.. indeed true.. i also dont bother to root.
[XPERIA X10 General] rtsbala:
Hi friend

Im also from India. Im planning to buy X10. Sorry for asking couple of questions that are irrelevent to this thread. I need to know some stuff...

> In call quality via the phone earpiece

> Loudspeaker volume

> Is the phone get heats up while using it for more than 15 mins

> Battery life

> Music volume

Pls pls help me with your comments and it'l be of a great help for me to decide on this phone

Thanks is advance
[XPERIA X10 General] proyaz:
Im currently using the 023 firmware and also setcup with lots of different profiles. And surely, its helping my battery to last long :D
[XPERIA X10 General] Mobzter:
I'm losing like 12% or so/hr when using 3g/wifi.. I just don't get why its draining it so bad!! hopefully someone has a really good answer??

R2ba020 rooted, same was happening with r2ba023 root an all!

please try avoid simple answers like task killer stuff, startup, etc.. I'm pretty used to all them now hence y I'm looking for a really good solution?

everything else is usually working pretty well..

thanx
[XPERIA X10 General] AndyD777:
Do you have any location based services enabled or any services that using location based services?

Is you phone also dropping back in to a idle state?
[XPERIA X10 General] lornova:
My X10 was stabilized to 3% charge decrease per hour, but now with R2BA023 it jumped to 8% per hour...

I upgraded with OTA, this weekend I'll flash a fresh firmware with SEUS, hope that this will fix the battery draining back to the R1FA014 level.
[XPERIA X10 General] Mobzter:
wat dya mean by dropping back to idle state?

hardly use services.. not really touched that section since root.. don't use no timescape either..

to be honest even when I came of a fresh installation n put wifi on I noticed it then.. thats even before I downloaded/installed anything!!
[XPERIA X10 General] Paragon:
Well after running the R2 update last night my battery life has doubled. Yesterday by this time it was dead. Today I have 58% left. Thinks are looking a bit more promising now. I'm not running off to return it so quickly now.

Dave
[XPERIA X10 General] mark28:
My battery life has improved but not as much as everyone else. it seems like alot of people are getting 2 or even 3 days from their phone. right now my phone last a day which is better then before. The 3 tops things according to my phone that uses power is the display, cell standby, and phone idle. I'm thinking about doing a Factory reset and see if that helps or something =(
[XPERIA X10 General] andy8271:
if your not downloading the wifi should 'go to sleep' or idle. mine uses hardly any power at all

try getting rid of task managers. always made my battery worse

and try adw launcher
[XPERIA X10 General] AndyD777:
I have been having problems with the phone not sleeping correctly. So I have been experimenting with the following firmware:

"Rooted" R2BA020 / 23

Generic UK R2BA020

Global R2BA023

All of the above I performed a factory reset and the set the APN and correct time and left them over night to see the battery loss. All of them on average used about 40% battery in around 8 hours.

I have then tried R2BA023 Nordic and it seems to have cured my problems, the phone now goes to sleep correctly using the same test. So far its only dropped 2% in 9 hours and its now sleeping correctly.

Andy
[XPERIA X10 General] vatis24:
Greetings again,

I am using R2BA020 rooted and HOME ++ , set cpu on auto.

I found out this compination its much better for me than firmware .23.

Firmware .23 for some reason drained my battery like hell.So i had to find solutions by my own.

I decided to go back to R2BA020 and use Home ++ with set cpu.

Just a quick look to this morning :

Fully charged, unplugged at 8:30 pm, i have 20 minutes calls so far, wifi on , i sent 5 sms played a bit with the HOME++ Settings e.t.c. read gmail mail.

Currently i have 97% and its 11:45.

Cheers

Vatis
[XPERIA X10 General] Keegan_P:
My use on battery is by far display cause I'm always using it since my root. :-) Even then, I'm still getting 52% remaining at the end of the day. With my old stock firmware, wouldn't last the day with more moderate use, SetCPU has been really useful in thr improvement I think.
[XPERIA X10 General] lornova:
Try to repeat the same sequence. I guess you will get different results.
[XPERIA X10 General] Mano1982:
I think You are right Andy :p

I've "Rooted" R2BA023 and i've noticed any improvement in battery life from R1FB001. It's kinda same :( Can i go back to Nordic R2BA023? If yes, How? :rolleyes:
[XPERIA X10 General] AndyD777:
I have tried it a number of times to be sure and on my handset I get the same result :)
[XPERIA X10 General] AndyD777:
You have one of two ways to flash back to generic Nordic firmware.

1. Omnius - http://www.omnius-server.com

2. Using the flash tool. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=683793

:)
[XPERIA X10 General] _raz_:
First day on the R2BA023, basically seeing a doubling of battery capacity. Used to be that ready to connect ( out whatever that its in English) and phone standby were the biggest drain at about 29% and 26%, with the display at around there same level.

Now after fw update display is the top drain at around 69%.... And the readiness thing is only 9%. Idle is only 6%. Wifi with screen sleep policy is about the same.

A marked difference if there ever was one.
[XPERIA X10 General] glitchexe:
I'm still having battery life issues on my Rogers x10a running firmware r2...23

I was at 100% as of 12:00pm and it's now at 86% 5:23pm.

According to the battery info I've used:

Voice Calls - 30% (10m 35s)

Cell Standby - 28%

Phone Idle - 22%

Display - 11%

Android System - 4%

ADW.Launcher - 3%

3G on, WIFI off, BT off

No idea what is draining my battery so much
[XPERIA X10 General] ijob:
I began using setcpu with little improvement. I also found that even with the generic new rom in the rooting thread, battery life was similar.

However, I began trawling through my apps and found that despite earlier turing off automatic updates, changing the frequency of downloads etc that I had to reset them all again. Maybe that was due to me removing the battery, restarting like that [soft reset?].

So my biggest improvements have come from changing the frequency at what the apps connect for data etc
[XPERIA X10 General] vatis24:
Could you post please how you change the frequency for what apps to connect for data?

Thanks and regards

Vatis
[XPERIA X10 General] piercewei:
i think the result is quite ok. the average drainage is around 2.55%/hr. i didnt see any unsatisfaction. or you can remove the ADW to see if there is any improvement.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] odin13:
Today i read on twitter that T-Mobile will bring out an Eclair update for G2 on 15 july...

Will this update be the 'clean' 'non-sense' 2.1 update ???

And if so...will it be able to install / flash this onto my 'sense-flavoured' Hero?

thnx!

Odin
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mag5gam:
I think this is just the "second part" of the update to 2.1 for T-mobile G2 users.

Which is the one with Sense.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Feeyo:
nope. this will be the same as the WWE EU 2.1 release but then with t-mobile "custom" configurtions. Like their ugly logo I guess
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pulser_g2:
Yep, and a bookmarks list full of advertising crap etc...
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ganii:
And maybe with some t-mobile apps,like web `n walk browser

instead of normal browser!
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] furrypotato:
Yep. I learnt to root and flash my Hero within a week last year when I got it.

Now running alpha build of 2.2 CyanogenMod
[Off-topic] chikoo:
In all the interviews of James Cameron regarding his movie Avatar, never does he mention, nor has any interviewer asked him the question - What is his real inspiration of using the name "Avatar", Blue Skin Aliens, who also fly on Large birds???

The answer is very obvious to anybody who knows world history, but I wonder why James Cameron is shying away from it????
[Off-topic] lamborg:
Yeah, there was some news about it for giving the credit and all and then it faded away just in a few days.
[Off-topic] bbobeckyj:
Well I have no idea what the origin is, that you are implying he stole the plot from. Or is it just the name? Either way please do tell.
[Off-topic] Agent Zach:
In his interview [linked below] he kinda' touches on what inspired him to do Avatar... the under-water world. Watch & listen for more information:

http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/dpp/buzz/avatar-james-cameron

It's not a full interview, only a few minutes long, but he does kinda' hint to the question being asked in the first post.
[Off-topic] chikoo:
That is just a smoke screen.

Since you asked, I will tell you.

Avatar is a sanskrit word "Avatar or Avatāra (Devanagari अवतार, Sanskrit for "descent" [viz., from heaven to earth]) refers to a deliberate descent of a deity from heaven to earth, and is mostly translated into English as "incarnation", but more accurately as "appearance" or "manifestation" (ref: wikipedia).

He also fails to mention that the concept of Avatar, which according to Hindus, is a Human being form that the God uses to descend to Earth, mingles with the Humans and helps the Humans by freeing them of the evil that is rampant. Isn't that what the main character essentially ends up doing in his film?

What about the Blue skin color? That is also a rip-off from the Hindu Avatar of Lord Krishna, who is a blue skinned Avatar of Lord Vishnu, came to earth to help fight for the truth and liberate us from the evil. (see my avatar - That is Lord Krishna).

Now I do not want this topic to turn in to a religious topic, but I sincerely believe that where credit is due, one should not shy away from it. I love James Cameron and I love all his movies, but just not able to understand why he does not give the credit where it is due.:mad:

It is also right that people I hang out with and who are unaware of this injustice should be educated to understand what is reality.

Thanks!
[Off-topic] MalekoUK:
Could it not just be simple?

"Avatar: a graphical image that represents a person, as on the Internet. " - Dictionary.com

So basically, his avatar (which is whats its refered to in the film) is just a representation of him in a different form other than a person.

Heck, avatars are used all over the internet, so why not in a film in a real world sense?

Well, i maybe completely wrong, but then we don't know the facts yet!

Just my 2 cents, as its never been offically explained :P
[Off-topic] lamborg:
Well I agree with him.

I hate people who steal others ideas (not specifically aimed at James Cameron). Just watched Flash of Genius.

And please don't start a 'war of words' on this. :)

Peace V
[Off-topic] captainstu72:
Am i the only person not to have seen this film? Is it worth it?

(Sorry for taking off topic, off topic....)

But I also do not like it when people don't proportion credit to where it should go, I bet he would have been more then happy to proportion blame?
[Off-topic] bbobeckyj:
OK, thanks.

I understand what you are saying, but I think that you're thinking about it too much.

There are no doubt plenty of science fiction books which are many years old which have a similar theme of a person control a remote entity (be it mechanical or biological) so I don't think that he needs to give credit to any other stories.

When I initially heard of Avatar, I immediately thought of Joe Haldeman's Forever War and Forever Peace books.

Off the top of my head, maybe he should give Charlie Kauffman a credit also, for the idea of possessing another body in Being John Malcovich.

Then another credit to the first scientists / sci-fi writers who first conceptualised genetic engineering and cloning.

JRR Tolkien for people riding giant eagles.

The smirfs for blue people.

Any number of pre industrial peoples for the use of bows and arrows...

Where do you stop?!

Also you mentioned world history?
[Off-topic] conantroutman:
Avatar is nothing more than a rip off of "Fern Gully - The Last Rain Forrest"....

@ the guy whos never seen it........ Dont bother, its 2.5 hours of your life you'll never get back........
[Off-topic] chikoo:
Probably so. I was excited to listen to James Cameron's interview and after 1 hour I was like dude....how come he mentions every freaking movie and the Vietnam war and the American-Indian(Red Indian) injustice and what-not as part of the plot. But he does not mention the meaning of the word Avatar. Why????

Agreed. But see this formula

Avatar + Blue Skin + Savior = Hindu Mythology of Lord krishna

Avatar is a Sanskrit word (Sanskrit is the original @3500 years old language of the Hindus), Some insights about Sanskrit here

You speak of cloning. That was also part of the Hindu Mahabharata Epic. Actually that book contains Artificial insemination, Cloning (the queen has 100 sons by breaking up the 1 egg she has), Flying machines (Vimana), Missiles, and last but not the least the Atomic Bomb (called Brahmastra..more here). This book is the mother-lode of all Sci-fi authors.
[Off-topic] chikoo:
It is a brilliant film. I love it.
[Off-topic] MalekoUK:
I didn't see it until it came out on DVD, and it is indeed a great film, but not all its hyped up to me imo.
[Off-topic] captainstu72:
may continue to give it a miss then, unless I wind up with a free copy, and a blue ray player...

Thanks for the opinions :)
[Off-topic] bbobeckyj:
Maybe he doesn't give the credit you expect for a very simple reason: That he was unaware if the etymology of the word avatar.

We don't say 'gay' when we mean 'happy', there are many more words which have changed use over time. If all writers had to give credits for words 3500 years old...

He had also made more than one film where the simple title refers to a character(s), [the] terminator; aliens; abyss; titanic.

He has simply chosen a punchy title easily remembered by the public.

As someone one said, ' there are no original stories left, it's how you tell them '

Being blue is irrelevant to the story, there are several avatars in the film, he hardly saves all his friends, and most (all?) religions have a savoir who does god's will.
[Off-topic] chikoo:
Oh I wish he did not know the meaning.

Know James Cameron and his work, he very certainly knows the meaning.

He researches his work very well. There is no denying that.

Avatar is hardly an English word. The word is 3500 years old and still in use today. It is not as as if it is a forgotten word of a forgotten language.

James' Avatar hardly saves all his friends...well that is exactly how the Avatar in Hindu mythology works. He does not save everybody, at least not as a mission.....but certainly makes sure that the evil is taken care (viz crushed, finished, killed...), and in turn saves the rest of the humankind.

See, one more similarity. :cool: Thanks for bringing it up.
[Off-topic] Keegan_P:
And here I thought it was a modern "pochahantas". I probably didn't spell that right. :-)

Sent from my ROOTED x10a!

Avatar made by me!
[Off-topic] chikoo:
Right!

That is where he wants the people to believe his storyline is coming from.....the old red indians, the vietnam war, la la.....
[Off-topic] bbobeckyj:
I don't see it. how can he research science fiction?!!

this is coincidence, nothing more. and an example of religious believers retrofitting their theology to what they want or think fits it (groundhog day is another example, where on the dvd the director tells how many believers claimed it as an example of their faiths). no matter what I, or anyone says, you will use it as further proof.

Also, why would he intentionally lie about it? it surves no purpose.
[Off-topic] chikoo:
#1. If he really did not know the meaning of Avatar, then he has lost me as his audience. But that is not the case. He does know the meaning. In his story Jake embodies the Blue Avatar body and gains entry to the world of Na' vi. The same exact way the Hindu God Vishnu gains entry to the Human world in a Human Body of Krishna. I would not have had such an issue if James Cameron would have called it say "Spirit Within" or some such name. No. He had to use the word Avatar. That confirms that he knows the word and he understand it's etymology.
[Off-topic] hungry81:
You dont have to have knowledge of the Hindu faith to have heard this story line before. James Cameron is just using the word avatar to describe his remote controled bodies in the same way that athe word avatar is used to decribe the remote controlled pixels in a RPG game. Possibly because the term body snatchers had already recently been reused in a movie.

As mentioned previously there are dozens of other films that use this exact plot line. Hell even the trojan story is a varient of this theme, (admittedley not one with a happy ending.) I think you are reading too much into it. Besides why does it matter? Avatar is just a rehashed unoriginal storyline with 3D computer graphics.
[Off-topic] stylez:
Gotta agree, far too much being read into the movie and on the point of blue watch all James Cameron's movies they have a weird blue about them infact we call him the blue movie guy :D
[Off-topic] bbobeckyj:
Why would you stop watching his film if he truly does not know the origin of the word???

So Krishna enters the body of a test tube grown genetic hybrid, inside a spaceship, via a technological / electronic interface bed thing?

I've started a thread elsewhere asking people to define what they think 'avatar', the word, means to them. If I get any answers, I'll post the result here. Generally with language, it's the consensus of meaning and use that matters, not the origins and or outdated uses.

From wiki: "It is an object representing the user."

It's just a story that he made up. If all religions complained about story tellers stealing their ideas without credit, we would be missing some very popular and good films, Star Wars, The Matrix, I Am Legend... Probably there are thousands of them.

You're still ignoring the questions I've asked:

You said he researches his films. In which of his previous films could research have been possible? The Terminator? True Lies? Aliens? Piranha 2? Only The Abyss and Titanic have any possibility for limited research. Where is any evidence that he researched this and would know the origin of the word?

You mentioned world history in your first post, care to clarify where / when history would enable us to know the true origin of his story?

Also, why would he intentionally lie about it? it serves no purpose.