yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ozkaya:
question is, does it really need to address the ROM. android will be working of the sd card and ramdisk, I cant see any reason why it needs to address the ROM, which is used for storing WM. I might be wrong though..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Limited69:
Hi

i use Radio 2.07.50.27_2.

Linux Boot --- OK

Video playback --- OK

Restart --- failed, need to hardreset.

looking forward to android 2.2 and 3 on hd2 *g*

cya
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tids2k:
good news. try the debug roms xmoo has ... restart failure might not happwn then.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Blubster:
I think we should list the radios that are compatible with the kernel, and those that aren't, so that future testers can "get ready".

For me, i can confirm that radio 2.10.50.28_2 works perfectly on a euro HD2.

If it is of any interest to any one, I use a Sandisk 8GB Class 4 µSD...

On a side note, i noticed that we setup the ram in the startup.txt to be of 252MB. My guess is that it was to be sure that there was no stability issues because of the ram.

Now the question is : will haret be able to see the full 576MB? or just a little part of it?

Actually, I don't know how other devices (diamond, rhodium...) behave regarding ram. Is all of their ram usable by the linux kernel?

I know that ~250MB is plenty for linux/android...

EDIT : I changed the size of the ram in the startup.txt to be 444MB, and then booted haret. Then i noticed in the first part of the boot process that it resetted the memory to 128+124 = 252MB. Is the ramsize in the startup.txt any relevant?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kanesw:
He is talking about Read only memory.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Blubster:
Yes, and i am talking about RAM... ;)

Haret is meant to be used from External Storage, not Internal. So the size of the ROM is not really important. You can't have a rom with both WM and Android inside. At least it is what i think...

Dualboot roms only have a program which launches itself after WM boot, so that it can then trigger haret, with android located inside the SD card.

That's how i think it works.

About the RAM, my guess is that the kernel is setup this way, so that it uses 252MB of RAM. Is it something else?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] gorelshv:
thank you! well done!

it works! plays video with text flickers. my setup:

hd2 eu

energy rom 01.may

radio 2.07.50.27_2

16 gb sandisk

decords - this means that it can work with radio lower than 2.08
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] slayerns:
same radio, works fine. 2gb sandisk, i dont know what class it is (doesn't write on it)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] FrenchTart:
So far it's kind of sounding like the microsd model is causing issues for people more than the radio version... does that sound about right?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] simeri:
i think you are right!

it dosent matters wich radio rom you are using...

and i think the problem is the file system on the sd card by mounting...

there will be differences if you are formating th sd card on pc or directly in the device

for windows mobile this maybe be no problem...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] simeri:
oh ...

i think we have to wait until the evo 4g is on market...

it will be easy to see which drivers are there included.... i believe the hardware is the same like leo.... so its possible to use the drivers from 4g for the hd2 .................................................

we will see
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mgdev:
Builds

Thanks to all the devs that are spending their time creating this port, great work.

I would like to try some development work myself, I've read the htc-linux-wiki but would some of the devs outline the build system they use, ie. the particular linux version they use, etc..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] saeidonline:
Does improvment in Android with Sense , apply on android with out htc sense ??
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] AirforcProductions:
@serrias "

There is possibility that it can run better than other android snapdragon devices, Since we boot through the Linux kernel and the system drivers are loaded from there, There is possibility to over-clock the CPU to higher speeds before booting android, This is purely speculation.

By doing so, We could achieve the 1.25+ Ghz speeds as if it were stock. A 25% performance increase over other stock devices sounds good to me."

-Your Ideas are good but remember at the end of the day its still just a phone they are not trying to make it to handle WoW, 1Ghz isnt fast enough for you? There is hardly any Apps that utilize the full 1Ghz power of the chip in our phone. Not only whats being done is already enough of an undertaking as it is. Why dont we just build in 3D Drivers and watch 3D movies on it (Sarcasm). Just relax. After they finish developing the stable Android (Dreaming) then you can overclock but there really is no need.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] DarkStone1337:
Hi guys, people are telling me that theyre having issues running sense v3.5 build, so I made a quick video to show how well it runs for me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbspZtrA6p0

Enjoy!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] actasci:
i have 2.09 radio and did this, but just blue screen?

---strangely, works like a charm after few soft resets?!?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Knucklessg1:
it would be good what you are trying to impose, but the battery life would be decreased drastically, and to even run it thisfast, wall power will always be necessary
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mcampbe:
I have followed android development since day one on the G1 to the present day with a nexus one and a HD2. JesusFreke is out of the scene these days, but I know he was some amazing tools and skills to deconstruct proprietary drivers. smali/baksmali have been crucial tools for Android development. Maybe JF or his tools could help out the devs here.

http://code.google.com/p/smali/

http://jf.andblogs.net/
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dcordes:
There is nothing specific to the hd2 device in those android builds. They are just randomly composed builds for other devices. All code is available from android repositories at http://android.git.kernel.org/ . Just build for nexus one device.

..This is why it makes absolutely no sense to discuss about what is broken in android. None of the problems you are seeing are caused by android but are on Linux kernel level.

Please everybody read the rules in the first post and stop the meaningless consumption of your fellow users' nerve and bandwidth

:( :cool:

And don't go crazy about the working sensors. We will put stuff later. Just show some patience...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bloodychaos:
It finally worked! :D

Although, it was very laggy...Mario froze mid-air after 3 minutes of trying it out :rolleyes:

Though it still run from the SD Card, I'm kinda wondering what's the minimum required RAM

Now on to Ubuntu...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dratengon:
how to set boot:/ in default.txt
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] vladimir2989:
im getting a problem at startup/boot after HaRET Starts and the whole text scroll thing is rolling, before penguin appears screen goes black and thats it nothing else happens have to reboot device...

sorry for non technical descriptinon, im not linux person so... how can i fix this ?

(HTC Leo non-US version)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Knucklessg1:
@_@ is that necessary? please stay on topic. or you will anger the dev gods.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] curiousGeorge:
Hi, for the tslib settings:

I was wondering if you could adjust the the variance delta +- 1 magnitude.

Try:

module variance delta=3 (and then 300)
module dejitter delta=10 (and then 1000)

The first parameter controls the speed at which the cursor is allowed to move. If you lower this speed (rather, distance) threshold, you might prevent the cursor from jumping to the corner, because that would violate the varience threshold.

Dejitter can be turned off to observe its effect. It might think a tap is a movement from 0,0 (or max,max) to the tapped location due to differences in userspace between Android and "normal" Xorg linux, and if this falls within the varience limit, it might try to "smooth" the motion or some such thing.

Of course, the next step would be to attack board-htcleo-ts.c :

case TOUCH_TYPE_2A:
x_start = 6 (why 6?);
y_start = 6;
x_end = 576;
y_end = 952 (what does this number reference? Userspace event code?);
break;

As a last resort, one could look at the raw data for the touch controller to see what event is being triggered by the "tap."

[edit] You might want to use an updated tslib, as well. Finally, if the tapping is sorted, to fix the calibration, just run ts_calibrate.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dcordes:
https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/tslib-general/2010-July/000302.html
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] curiousGeorge:
I see. So you did try ts_test and ts_calibrate, and you proved the huge spontaneous motion is definitely "real" as observed with the hex dump.

But did you try the latest version of tslib? And did you try adjusting the values I mentioned in the previous post to control for the huge random motions? If you do, it would be wonderful if you could share the result (both real-world and hex dump).

Like you observed, it is possible to click. I've done it multiple times trying out the OS (as you may recall), but it required a lot of spamming the screen to get a click to register. That said, it would be good if you dumped the result of this random spamming to see if that "third column" ever changes when a click event is actually sent to Xorg.

[edit]

I took a closer look at the driver. While nothing stood out to me, it might help for debugging purposes to compile with acpi-like functions disabled (suspend, resume, etc), lock ptcount <= 1, and write the contents of ptx/pty arrays somewhere (or just read the debugging info from dev_dbg):

303 dev_dbg(&ts->client->dev, "TS: pressed1 (%d, %d)\n", ptx[0], pty[0]);

This can help to attack the problem from the driver side (observe the "cause"), rather than from the setting/library side (observe the "effects").
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Rockin_Android:
Maybe they could create a separate thread for people to give "feedback" on. In this case feedback would = nonsense lol.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] 20mihalko:
Guys, I`m just curious. On Linux, there is nothing like hidden RAM or GPU memory now right? How mach RAM Leo has now? Cuzz there was lots on rumors, that it has some blocked RAM etc.. I`m not too skilled with android to find that...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] slayerns:
even though it is .29, for those who are interested;

evo4g source code:

http://member.america.htc.com/download/RomCode/Source_and_Binaries/evo_4g-2.6.29-e1cabff5.tar.gz

mirror1: http://hotfile.com/dl/52630549/0fa6851/evo_4g-2.6.29-e1cabff5.tar.gz.html

mirror2: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=P5J3KHZ7
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Art-X:
Q&A tree..

Maybe it's handy to make a Q&A helpdesk-like decision tree everyone should go through before posting when they have a problem.. like:

Look up your radio version like this.: .. .. ..

Look up your build version like this: .. .. ..

Your problem:

- blank screen

do you see a vertical fading line? Yes/No,

Yes: update your Radio to 2.10 and install HSPL

No: Do you see white text ending with: can't find ROOTFS

Yes: Put the files into the Root/main of your SD card

No: Post the last lines of the text

do you see see a blue screen?

Yes: DON"T POST ANYTHING

No: ......

..............

etc.

when a repeated question comes, just link the form. no more talk or flames.

if nobody can do it in spare times, I will in the evening (at work now), just pm me then plz.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tomasz:
The ROM shouldn't be the problem. I also use elegancia ROM without any big trouble.

- Are the files in the root of your SD Card?

- Have you tried using another (freshly formatted) SD-card?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] matiasg85:
Hey there, thanks for answering, the sd card is an 8GB recently flashed card, and all the files are on the sd root directory. I don't have a clue of what could be going on here.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] elgrego4:
I've got it running and it is too slow to do anything other than look at it at the mo. Would flashing my rom to free up that extra bit of ram do much to alter the performance? Also as it is running from the sd card, does that mean that winmo is running in the background?

correct that: Every time i try it now, it gets stuck in a loop at the hero animation :(
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nemo0405:
I am trying all of the builds but i keep getting stuck at

"/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"

Last night i got the nexus one build to boot up but the screen kept blinking and i reset the device and run Haret and then nothing...kept getting at the same

I have a T-Mo US HD2... HSPL 3...latest radio

Edit: Re formatted memory card and it worked :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ddeluxe:
keep settings and update kernel

Hi everybody,

Is it possible to keep the settings and just update the kernel with sensor drivers? If yes, how can i do that? Do I have to just replace a file? Thanks for your help!!

Great work guys!!!!!!!!!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dcordes:
Yep, as we are compiling all drivers into zImage (gzip compressed Linux kernel Image) you can just replace it.

Steadily updated zImage is in Advanced Users section.

Of course you need to be an Advanced User to copy the file :p
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ddeluxe:
Thanks for your quick answer!! I downloaded the zimage from advanced section (although i'm not), do i have to rename it to image and replace my old image file? See my current files on the screenshot! sorry for bothering:D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jagger2k:
How do i use the zimages? when i click the link it loads of a page of text.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kivine:
right click save as
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dashrink:
Guys please stop putting the whole log in a post directly. Make a .txt file in notepad and attach it instead. Theres no need to fill this thread even more.

Thanx for understanding.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] OrionBG:
It is probably a question that have been ask in the past but... The one thing that is the same on all Snapdragon devices is the QSD8X50 chip right? Nexus One, Desire, Xperia X10, HD2.... What is in this chip? As much as I know the GPU is inside it, the GSM Radio, The CPU itself.... What else is inside it?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nemo0405:
turn off auto adjust for light in WinMo and problem will go away
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rtheripper11:
stupid question im sure

but i have a mac what do i need to do to or is it not possible
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rorydaredkign:
When the capital letters DOWNLOAD comes up on gamesquare.com v4 page, then right click and click download file.

TBH if you couldnt work that out, probably shouldnt be using Android on the HD2 in its current form
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dimdimdim:
v4 stucks at jumping to kernel (hspl 208, radio 2.12)

????
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] DarkStone1337:
Do you get a static screen? The static screen should happen as the framebuffer console has been disabled. Just let android load as normal and the screen will be fine.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] matiasg85:
Same problem here, i can't even run any of the builds, same error message on all of them.

HSPL3 - RADIO: 2.10
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Possible:
Ok im downloading right now... when finished i will post some results.

PS: Does youre build included the g-sensor fix?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] DarkStone1337:
No g-sensor fix in the sense builds yet im afraid :(
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zstjohn:
"htc_linux

@htc_linux developer and @xdadevelopers user LeTama fixed WiFi on the #HTC #HD2 in #Linux"

woohoo. the progress is phenomenal guys.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Possible:
Yeah i was just about posting it.. The developing seems to go really fast.

Respect to the people who are working at this!

@Darkstone: Just put the build on my HD2. I'm also getting static image. After that.. Android coninued booting:D For all the people that are getting a blue sceen: Make sure you rebooted youre HD2.When you tried another build without rebooting youre HD2, it will crash / fail with a BSOD
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] TonyCubed:
The reason for this is that while the HD2 doesn't have another brother what shares all of it's components, a few phones like the Nexus One, Desire, Bravo, Evo etc have different components that they share with the HD2. So the developers have been able to pull drivers from the different phones and implement them. Still a long way but they are getting closer to their goal. :P
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Knucklessg1:
I found the website for the android build + sense v1, v2, v3, and v3.5, but where is the website that contains these builds WITHOUT sense?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jonboyuk:
http://gamesquare.co.uk

It was recently updated to show all kinds of ROM.

While I'm here - what's the consensus on the best radio? 2.10 or 2.12?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Possible:
Read the startpost, there you can find the latest build (without sense)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] vladimir2989:
also is there any development on making a bootable rom like flashable .nbh ? even if there is no support for sensors, camera, wifi...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] TonyCubed:
Flashing to Nand will be the absolute last thing they do. So no, they are not developing it.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zstjohn:
They already have proximity sensor, compass, vibration, wifi, g sensor and ambient light sensor.

a large portion of what you are looking forward to has already happened...lol
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] gamer-Kenny:
Are these builds running on phones with radio x.xx.51
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] young blade:
just read on twitter that LeTama has fixed the wifi on the HD2:D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Blue Ice K4:
i'm testing the V4 build, flickering isi disappeared but it seems more instable, for example i have sistematic bsod if i directly unlock the device once booted, i have to disable and reenable audio and then i can unlock safe

is it possibile having for future release a changelog so to be alble to test new features and report new bugs? :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] AirforcProductions:
Ive read that the radio version is good as long as its in the branch 2.xx.50.xx is good but i think you need a class 4 or 6 sd card and mine doesnt say it and i dont have a card reader to test
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] DavidC1980:
Just info: I have stock 1.66 with radio 2.10.50.08_2 and sense v4 won't start. This is running from a class4 card. The non sense version seems good tho, except it does hang after just a few minutes even after a few boots.

Great work, really looking forward to see how this project evolves.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zole2112:
I've run several of the builds on my TMoUS HD2 with radio 2.12 and a 16 GB Class 2 SD card.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] young blade:
From Twitter: hd2_android

hd2_android

WiFi now works! Test image available: http://bit.ly/cYYYPb
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] lokito15:
That is wierd because I have the TMOUS Version of the HD2 and I could run all the builds just fine(although the were rather choppy, but probaly because I was using a 2 gb SD Card >.<.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] yumm_007:
I have tested it, replace rootfs.img and Image with this version, but "WIFI can't start"
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] M..N:
Dcordes any news on a maemo build?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] w4s:
I have installed ubuntu on my hd2. it works fine. just one problem, i need a keyboard and a mouse connecting through USB port. it means i need to bring them with my hd2, without them, it is not easy to control the device. also, no GSM signal, no sound (audio).
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dcordes:
sorry no time for meego yet. I have been too busy with kernel, openembedded and ubuntu things so far. but meego is definitely on my list!

just fyi - we have no idea who that other twitter person is. one thing is for sure: they are not one of us developers so I recommend to not trust it too much.

edit: sorry, you asked for maeomo. I will install both. regarding both, it is no problem generally. you can definitely run that stuff. maemo even seems perfect for hd2 when you compare e.g. n900 display and ours... the tricky part about these things is setting up the highly device specific things like communication with the baseband processor (for texting calls 3g net etc), power management, stuff like access to the sensors we recently added in hd2, ..you name it. that requires lots of patience. I am first looking in getting somewhere in openembedded now as I have quite some experience with that. Too many construction sites are no good. I hope you understand that.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] M..N:
Okay no problem could you give any tips on how to compile meego.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] danibjor:
Those who have problems running Android on the HD2, try to delete the data.img file from the SD card so you delete "old settings" and such.. (it's recreated next time you try to start Android).

If you delete data.img - also delete myramconsole.txt if it's there and any FSCKxxxx.REC files if you find any.

Deleting these and trying all over use to work on my Leo when I mix files and builds. :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] RaiderX303:
i currently have GSM working on the sense builds of android, also working on getting the other sensors working
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] RaiderX303:
i used a modified rootfs based on the wifi patch editing the init.rc to load the htc frameworks, id post the file but im on my phone
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] taifuller:
good deal. thats above my level of expertise so I'll patiently wait.. lol... (i may tinker with with and see what i can do)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] noellenchris:
can u post the modified init.rc for us, I'm assuming we can just download the root file ourselves... thanks.:D and good work
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] memin1857:
Tested these image and rootfs.img files with several different builds and NO, WIFI DOESN'T WORK. (Unable to start wifi)

One thing interesting is the VIBRATION works at boot animation, unlocking, holding finger at the center of home screen, and with keyboard input. Builds without the image and rootfs.img files of wifi_test_leo.rar did not have vibration. (Even when enabled)

Config:

European HD2 2.10.50.08_2 radio 1.66 WWE stock rom HSPL 2.08 4GB Class 4 Toshiba SD