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[Captivate General] aphexacid:
I got an iPhone 4 a couple days after launch, i love having an iphone....Had one since the original.

But i've been itching to get my hands on an android phone.

I WAS going to shell out for a N1...But was hesitant becuase of its age/price.

So then i see the Captivate, and it pretty much wipes its feet on the N1.

My only concern is the OS.

If i can get a vanilla rom, its a 100% GO for me. If not, then i think i might pass. i dont know, we'll see i guess.
[Captivate General] MendedEagle:
I was in the same situation as you. Started saving for the N1...then the Captivate details came out so I will probably push the N1 to the side and hope for the Captivate and a vanilla ROM.
[Captivate General] Danni3:
Ditto on this

Lets just hope the captivate really does sell for 350$ than i would get it sometime next week =] and i really really hate touchwiz >.> i never liked it on any samsung phone period it looked disgusting imho. I much prefer vanilla over any other interface

heres to hoping that at&t doesn't screw up and i will finally move over to android

can we get some verification that its going to be 350$?
[Captivate General] MendedEagle:
I agree on the interface comment. Much rather vanilla over all of it.

Either way, screwed up or not, I'll be making the jump to Android so either the Captivate or the Aria. Depends on how the reviews are/in-store performance.
[Captivate General] Drachen:
Check out Launcher Pro and ADW.Launcher. Both are based on the stock launcher but very fast, free and highly configurable. Just download them from the market. I have a feeling that the only thing I will really miss is Android 2.2 and that is reportedly coming shortly.
[Captivate General] lilgerm003:
so will google maps/navi work with this phone or did ATT take that out as well
[Captivate General] Jreitnauer7:
Yes, You will have to download them from the Android Market (I believe) but they will work.
[Captivate General] dsjr2006:
I just want to be able to remove the touchwiz launcher. Don't see any problems with the rest of it. Not a big fan of Sense or Touchwiz
[Captivate General] tysj:
Although I don't think you can remove Touchwiz as of yet, you can always install Launcher Pro of ADW Launcher.
[Captivate General] klyon:
I didn't read the entire thread; this might be redundant.

But I've just been to the T-Mobile store to check out the new Samsung (their Captivate equivalent, don't recall the name...)

I don't own an aria, but my wife does and I've checked it out thoroughly. (I helped her set it up/learn to use it.)

Comparison:

The Samsung feels cheaper, and -- believe it or not -- slower. I'm OG Android, upgrading from a G1, and, as such, very sensitive about draggy dialer loading times. I have no ax to grind, I just want to know which one to get for myself. And, hummingbird be damned, the Samsung loads the dialer slower than the aria. and that loading time was inconsistent: after checking out a bunch of other stuff, it was even slower. (Not G1 slow, but noticeable slower than the aria.)

The screen is beautiful, but then the widgets are *very* tacky compared to their HTC counterparts.

And it looks -- for my taste -- way too much like a direct iPhone copy.

So, bottom line, even though I could use more screen real estate, I'm going aria.

(in some ways I feel that a phone is a phone, and a tablet is a tablet: in between is not that right for either.)
[Captivate General] systoxity:
:(. Try the captivate instead. i hear its much sturdier than the tmobile one (also cheaper off contract). All your other complaints are due to the software, and since you're on xda, you know how much of a problem that really is :cool: (read: not a problem). However, if you dont like to tinker or dont have time to, the aria is a good phone for you.
[Captivate General] sl8125:
Aria is a good smartphone. you have something tight, small and very snappy gadget.

Your right the Tmobile version of Galaxy S, the Vibrant looks like a iphone knock off. I don't like it. But ATT Captivate looks more sleeker and techy. I just like the battery cover and the front face of the phone. It looks like its all one piece. I would ck out the ATT version it looks nicer then the Tmobile version.

The lagginess of Galaxy S might have to do with TouchWiz and other bloatware that samsung might have installed on the phone. I have an Aria but gonna go pick up a Captivate when it comes out. The Aria is one of the kind. Such a little phone with so much power. I can't put it down. I can't imagine after froyo is installed. I might make it my all time phone. But Captivate is captivate. The screen is so beautiful like you said. Maybe rooted and custom romed, it might be the best Android phone on the market. I hear that once customed romed, this thing flies. There is alot of people working on it. If we wait patiently it will come. This thing is released worldwide imagine how many ppl who are looking for the same thing we are. When these ppl get together and start modding, i hope that there is no end. unless samsung decides to screws us. But release of this phone worldwide i don't think so.

So i wouldn't rule out the Captivate. If you don't like the design of Vibrant try out the ATT version. It looks so sexy. Well i think my Aria is sexy too. LOL.
[Captivate General] MendedEagle:
This. +1.

I've also heard this.

I watched an androidandme.com hands on with touchwiz and there was a slight slow down/lag I noticed when touchwiz was on..but using a different interface/launcher, it ran very smooth.
[Captivate General] caelestis2:
I believe it is the crappy touchwiz.
[Captivate General] klyon:
Actually, I love to tinker; had my G1 rooted within a week of getting it. I'll look at the captivate when it drops and see if it feels less cheap/snappier. As I said, I have no dog in the race (although I'm leaning Aria because the form factor is more phone-like and the "talking into a brick" thing has lost it's charm for me).

But yeah, the Samsung screen is great and with a stock froyo build (no touch wiz, no Samsung widgets, nothing visually Samsung at all) it'll probably be great.
[Captivate General] hashbrown:
A sales person had this phone at AT&T corporate store. Its beautiful but way laggy. U won't believe it! My Aria outperformed it in menu selections, home, back and search. The internet and you tube are super quick though. Gorgeous screen. The UI blew corn nuggets though compared to HTC Sense. I think its the UI that's killing it's speed.
[Captivate General] gtg465x:
The UI is not what's making it laggy guys. It's an issue with how the device uses internal memory. There is a fix, but it's a bit complicated and requires root I believe. Hopefully Samsung will release an official update that fixes the issue.

Here's the fix:

http://android.modaco.com/content/s...ed-real-fix-for-the-stalling-lagging-problem/
[Captivate General] systoxity:
not trying to be a smartass but thats not really a fix. Its ****ING AMAZING! that being said, the real problem is that touchwiz isnt optimized the way it should be.

The "fix" listed above makes the phone run fast as hell, faster than froyo on G1...

An analogy: Think of touch whiz as a tree and your phone is a chain saw. It takes you a while to cut down that tree cuz its so thick. So that patch above is like A BIG ****IN CHAINSAW that cuts your tree down in no time. When really, its the tree that samsung gave us thats the problem...

I realize how this looks.... im not smoking anything.

So what im trying to say is, get a new rom and get rid of touch whiz to fix the lag. And there also exists a cool kernal that makes your phone run way better.

Patching should be done in that order.

Does this make sense to anyone?
[Captivate General] gtg465x:
It doesn't make sense because the stalling issue still exists even when you use Launcher Pro instead of TouchWiz. Animations will be a bit smoother with Launcher Pro or ADW Launcher, but you will still experience the stalling. The stalling problem has nothing to do with TouchWiz. Do you understand?

For an example of the stalling issue, skip to 6:55 in this video and note how long it takes to go back to the home screen after he presses the home button. There is a good 2 second pause. Sometimes the stall is longer... in the range of 4-5 seconds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVyTBdSnp7I&feature=player_embedded#!
[Captivate General] systoxity:
stalling on the captivate?

sorry hadn't heard of that problem once touchwiz was removed from anyone yet. :(
[Captivate General] gtg465x:
I think people are confusing lag and the stalling issue. Replacing TouchWiz with Launcher Pro or ADW will get rid of any lag, but I believe the stalling issue remains. Look at my previous post for an example of the stalling issue.
[Captivate General] systoxity:
Thanks for taking the time to put a link up explaining what you mean. That usually makes things much clearer.

In this case however, that was only a two second transition from when he pressed the home button. It could possibly the touchwiz just slowing the system down. it would really be helpful if we could find a video of a captivate with a custom rom or diff launcher where it still has that delay compared to an aria and compared to a kernal fixed captivate.

But thats probably too much to ask for. If someone is willing to do an aria im sure we could find somone here willing to do a pre kernal fix compared to a post kernal fix vid.

I just want to get down to the bottom of this.
[Captivate General] gtg465x:
Most people who are running different launchers or different roms have also applied the stall fix. I haven't seen any good videos of people who have installed Launcher Pro but haven't yet applied the stall fix.

Maybe if I can get my hands on a demo unit again tomorrow, I can try installing Launcher Pro from the market to see if the stalling is still there. I will make a video if I can.
[Captivate General] systoxity:
hey thanks alot, id really appreciate that.

a kernal patch that involves loading necessary files from external memory at boot sounds so uncouth to me.

vocab word of the day. ^^
[Captivate General] akeem_da_dream:
gaahhhhhh i had my mind set on the aria til i saw this. I had zero problems with my Samsung BJ, and HTC Fuze is decent, just getting old and slow, and keyboard is dying.

I see that the Aria is fast for its size and processor, but the Captivate having a bit more potential. Still the choice is tough!
[Captivate General] systoxity:
if i were you, and this choice was that hard. I'd zip it back up in my pants (my wallet that is) and wait a week and see how well the captivate is doing b4 making up my mind.

(see what i did there?)

... that is if you have enough self control to not outright buy the captivate in 2 days.
[Captivate General] akeem_da_dream:
well there's always the 30 day return policy....
[Captivate General] TexUs:
So you have to do the whole custom ROM in order to get this to work?

Does that work on the Captivate???? Being it's different hardware than the International version and all?

I have... Although I haven't had any real "stalling" problems though.
[Captivate General] systoxity:
ty TexUs, lets see if we can get anyone else to confirm. Btw tex, if you do the kernal patch now that you have turned down touchwhiz, can you post your experiences with the kernal patch? I wanna see how much of a difference it makes in everyday use since your phone is no longer bein bogged down by said launcher.
[Captivate General] gtg465x:
Sorry about the shaky videos, but as promised: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCpc6Zznb9I

Launcher Pro reduces the stalling quite a bit in this particular scenario, but it's still a lot slower than the myTouch Slide (which is itself old and slow) and pretty much every other Android phone.
[Captivate General] systoxity:
haha fun to watch. I cant help but point out that it seems like the mytouch was pushed b4 the launcher pro one was. In anycase it could just be a trick of the eye since the finger lingered on the mytouch. Great post, great vids, thanks for takin the time to put them up.

overall, it can safely be stated that the touchwhiz launcher should still be beta, the kernal patch makes your phone phenomenally faster, and gtg is a man of his word.
[Captivate General] gtg465x:
The myTouch button wasn't pressed before the galaxy. I just had to put my finger on the button before actually pushing it because the mytouch has physical buttons that are harder to push than the touch buttons on the galaxy.
[Captivate General] systoxity:
i figured :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] SirBlain:
I've been looking for a few hours online and so far no one has the same problem. Since this morning when I woke up I can't drag down my notification bar, nor can I press menu button and go to notifications that way. It just simply ignores my command.

I've reset and done everything else I can think of.

If anyone else has had this problem or knows what it could be any help would be GREATLY appreciated cause these things are really building up.
[HD2 General] Nocombneeded:
Hi,

is there any program or utility that will clear all the HD2 cache items that typically fill up the system memory - things like Google Maps cache etc? I have seen some HD2 Sense icon cache cleaners but can't seem to see anything that will flush all cache and temp directories to retreive much needed system space.

Regards,

Matt
[HD2 General] kam333:
Hey

Memaid is a great app, this will do what you want + more, but it not cheap $25

http://www.dinarsoft.com/memmaid/ - worth it tho!

for something simpler & free take a look at cleartemp http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-cleartemp.html

hope this helps

Tip: may not apply to you, but also take a look in your "volatile" folder (My Device/Application Data/Volatile), this can sometimes fill up after installing apps, its safe to delete the contents of this folder.
[HD2 General] asctony:
I also use Clean RAM

http://www.htcaddicts.com/?id=110

It's free.
[HD2 General] Nocombneeded:
Thanks for your advice and taking the time to reply, I'll look into these and see which one suits me best.
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
a folder to clean that rarely ever gets a mention is

windows/opera9/profile/download

which is where things like mp3's end up if you choose 'open' instead of 'save'
[HD2 General] asctony:
Another great app for total maintenance is SKTools. Try the trial version first to see if you like it as it is not free. The free trial only ids 6 things, you clean them then rescan again and get 6 more. So, you can use that to see what you find and clean.

http://www.skkvsoftware.com/?sktools/m_feat.html

I use it weekly and it does a good job.
[HD2 General] Nocombneeded:
Excellent, SKTools does the job I need it to! Thanks for all your help!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] peepeesea:
i searched around and i cant find the thread on this.

i was charging my phone through the USB port and it just randomly disconnected. i reconnected at it is recognized for a second then disconnects. the menu comes up on the screen and i see the notification at the top, but after about 2 seconds it just acts like i unplugged it

i have tried multiple USB ports, cables and different PC's and they all do the same thing now.

i installed HTC sync and rebooted the machine. i changed the power settings on the machine and made sure that the USB power management is disabled.

does any one have any idea whats going on?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] skiz220:
Do you have a auto kill app such as taskiller ?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] peepeesea:
no... the phone was just hard reset. the issue was there prior to the hard reset

it does the same thing on my laptop and desktop

both are windows 7 x46 with HTC sync installed
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marctronixx:
could be your usb port on your handset OR/AND the usb cable's tip that you insert into the port could be loose/failing. wiggle the usb cord at the end where it connects to the phone GENTLY and see if its loose. should be s snug fit...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tarheelsmj12001:
I have the same problem n started a few threads about it n havent gotten anywhere. My work computer has no problem seeing my phone but my personal computer will not, very very strange. Ill watch this thread n see if a solutions comes about.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] peepeesea:
seems like a very snug fit too me...

i should also mention that plugged in to the wall charger it has no problems

i have tried 3 different cables and 3 different computer and all USB ports on those computers, all the same issue
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Anku13:
I didn't have this issue till now but suddenly same thing started happening to my phone..

I have plugged in my phone using USB with laptop and it shows me charging but after two minute it just discount it...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ezkialrage:
me and my buddy have the exact same issue here. what i do is, i unplug it a few times and on the 4th i keep it it. seems to be a bit more stable that way.

i don't think this is an issue with faulty usb ports on everyone's separate computers. (could be but i frelling doubt it) ive tried this in multiple windows machines (win7x64 and xp), and it happened on all of them. Only once did it happen on my work mac. i have not, however, tried a different micro usb > usb cable. i only used the htc one. we could have faulty cables. or it could be a phone issue itself, hardware wise whereas these are the only common denominators we have in this problem that i can see.

i lean towards faulty batch of cables. if you plug in the cable to your phone and computer, and wiggle the middle of the cable without touching the ends, it will disconnect.

what gets me is that there is no problem when it connects to the wall usb port. that is confusing. maybe the cable needs a more heavy flow of power to stay connected, which then leads me to believe that usb drives don't have enough juice to keep the thing going, or at least variable flows of power.

i know the phone has an "issue/feature" where it will stop charging the phone completely when it gets to 100% even if you leave it on the charger. maybe some sort of overcharging fail safe right? so what if there is something wonky going on with the phones usb port, or the phone cuts off the connection thinking your done using it?

its late, im speculating just throwing stuff out there.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sephiroth92411:
I'm getting the same problem. Thing is, if it needed more power, why would it still work in a mac? I didnt have this problem until I went through a few different ROMS. So I dunno. I never had this problem before root. But I dont see any reason why it shouldnt fuction normally
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nexusdue:
... gmail worked fine in FRF85B but since FRF91 it will take 30+ seconds to display emails when I go into the gmail app (as if the messages are only THEN downloaded to the phone).

Gives some BS messages "Connecting ..."
[EVO 4G General] Jeffrey_L:
Maybe this should be in the Development forum - it asks for rather technical insight. I am using an HTC EVO 4G (not rooted or anything fancy - just as it came, except one temporary hack discussed later).

I am trying to figure out why the Sprint coverage in my area is just not up to par. I tried a little experiment - very unscientific, but it gave some interesting results.

First I downloaded a program called Antennas from the marketplace. It tracks which cell tower you are on based on the ID info being sent to your phone. Great little app, by the way.

Then, I drove around the area where I am having trouble -- only a couple of miles right in my town. The Antennas program showed my cell signal bouncing from tower to tower constantly. It never stayed on one tower more than a few seconds, and it seemed very unpredictable as to which tower would be next. Sometimes it would show me connected to a tower clear across town when there was a tower much closer, then it would bounce to the close tower for a short time, then off to another tower.

So, after my informal tower survey with Sprint coverage, I changed the PRL on the phone to use Verizon's towers. Then I drove around again, and got VERY different results. The signal stayed steady on one tower until I got closer to another one, then switched cleanly. Only once or twice did it bounce back and forth from tower to tower. For the most part it stayed with the tower that was closest to my location.

I am not sure where this gets me, but I would think Sprint could drastically improve both voice and data coverage if the phone stayed on one tower.

Any thoughts on what this might mean? Or, if the signal strength can be stabilized?
[EVO 4G General] xviiivx:
I wish I could help, but at least I can let you know you're not the only one. I only notice this at home.. and I live 3 blocks from a sprint store with a huge antennae on top. I would understand if I had a bad signal, but it even does it when I have 5 bars... and of course, it usually jumps to a tower that gives me 1 or 2 bars... and then 3 or 4 more towers before I get back to the tower that gives me 5 bars. Then it repeats. I haven't seen 6 bars at home, but I wonder if that would cause it to be happy and not jump to a different tower. I'm also curious if the new 2.x radio will change anything. I've been too lazy to update it and see..
[EVO 4G General] jrun:
How do you change radios? Are these software hacks for the radio ?
[EVO 4G General] Aridon:
What is your db when its bouncing? Ec?
[EVO 4G General] topdnbass:
Wow same thing even though I have an antenna really close.

Are you rooted?

Swyped from my Evo 4G
[EVO 4G General] epphllps:
Mine is bouncing between 3 towers within just a cpl of miles from me. Never stays on a single tower. Inside I get a horrid signal around -99 to -105...usually around -100 though. Outside I hit -85 but that's the best it gets until I hit one of the cities I'm between. It's disappointing to see those towers so close and have such a crap signal. I love VZW and their lower frequency but won't be leaving sprint anytime soon.
[EVO 4G General] Aridon:
-100-115 is very very marginal signal. If you see that very often that could be why you are bouncing. -85 is pretty decent signal so there should be no reason to bounce then.
[EVO 4G General] dwertz:
I believe he changed to the Verizon/Alltel prl.
[EVO 4G General] TorxT3D:
i have a good signal and mine jumps between 3 towers right around the corner from me, i didnt know they were that close.

good app! thx for the heads up
[EVO 4G General] mrono:
How did you get it to work, my program doesn't work right
[EVO 4G General] epphllps:
Yeah...even when I'm in the -80 range outside it will bounce back up to -95 or so. 3 towers within just a few miles and its like a pinball machine. Bounces everywhere haha. Shouldn't have a -95 plus signal outside that close to 3 towers (based on the antennas app)
[EVO 4G General] frifox:
we need a widget to force lock evo to the best available tower at the moment... i can imagine this would result in saving precious battery since evo won't be constantly looking/jumping towers.
[EVO 4G General] epphllps:
Is there a way to go in and lock onto a specific BSID or make a preferred selection? I have researched prl files a lot since getting this phone, but haven't seen a way to lock into a specific BSID. I am always locked on the SID of 4812, which is MEMPHIS. We just need to lock our strongest BSID location but I am clueless on how to do this, if we even can.
[EVO 4G General] kams01:
The software Antenna's i believe is not designed for CDMA so the results you get are sorta not valid

for those who see bouncing, make sure you update your PRL after you get your phone. sometimes, based on where you are when activating, the PRL may not load correctly. hope this helps
[EVO 4G General] oOflyeyesOo:
Yeah, def update your PRL. I looked on my phone today and it had a prl ending in 63, and when I updated it ended in 67.