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[Nexus One General] duglas:
I bought a Samsung Vibrant because of the screen size and I had a line I could renew..

My quick review..

Samsung

Nice big screen..

USB charge port is on the top which sucks to charge and talk at the same time..

battery life sucks

N1

2.2 on it already

FLASH!!

trackball... this is the main one for me.. I use remote desktop (RDP) all the time so the trackball is my mouse..

So, I am trying to keep using the Samsung but I might switch back to my N1 till 2.2 is out for the Vibrant..
[Nexus One General] techlogik:
A few points:

The N1 is a good phone, but major problems:

1) Mail and Calendar apps suck beyond belief for look/feel and functionality compared to iPhone, WinMo and even Desire. Anybody that is an Exchange user can tell you this after just using the apps for a few minutes. The only Rom I can stand to run in Desire on the N1. If not, the phone would have been sold the next day after I got it, plain and simple. Again, use Exchange sync and the features of other phones..you won't be able to handle the sad mail/calendar app and lack of features the stock Android has and N1.

2) Has Froyo even been official released? I read an article today that Froyo, 2.2 is going to be officially out shortly, but people are spoiled by leaked sources here. Otherwise, you don't have Froyo really yet. But, somehow not having 2.2 on the Samsung is a deal breaker. Samsung is good at making TVs. I have a nice 50" Plasma 1080p with a fantastic picture. But their phone history and lack of software support has not been good.

3) Camera? Are people reallly using a phone for photos? Maybe for some stuff you don't really care about possibly, to quickly capture something. But seriously? You guys are so hung up on all sorts of other minor technical details and minutia related to the phones around here, yet you are seriously concerned about the camera on it?!?! The video is very handy if really doing 30fps 720p, that is a great feature...but the camera is a joke. Heck, even the video is a joke.

If you want real quality photos or video, go drop $3K on a good DSLR/lens or 1080p cameras and use them for what they are good at. Your phone isn't a DSLR or HD broadcast quality video device. It's a phone with some other features.

Phones are good for talking while not attached to a cord, they are good at syncing email and accessing internet while not in front of a computer...that is all!

4) The plastic case? People sound like the iPhone crowd and the antenna problem. Are you really not going to put a case around the thing and risk having it scratched up and banged up if dropped? You will never see the plastic hardly, if at all with a good case anyway. In fact, I can barely see my N1 except the screen/buttons and trackball with my case.

Galaxy looks like a descent alternative with wide operator support. With that said, it needs good applications...and for enthusiast like the xda crowd, unless you can get custom roms for it...it won't gain much acceptance around here and will ruin the "hobby" and goal of reaching nirvana for customization. That is all I really consider XDA for the most part, a hobby with multi-functional phones and trying to tweak and improve them. Most phones from vendors do mostly what we need pretty well. But that is never enough for geeks.
[Nexus One General] bigo1087:
I just got my AT&T Nexus One..on Tuesday......Booted it up w/ 2.1......No less than 30 seconds later, it recived an OTA update for 2.2.

Im pretty sure Froyo is official. Besise this is Google's Dev Phone, it will get all offical updates first, mainly becuase it uses Vanilla Android.
[Nexus One General] heygrl:
Vanilla Android is fugly. Even the dialer app needs a major overhaul (TouchWiz fixes that)
[Nexus One General] duglas:
I want to answer these questions..

1. Buy Touchdown.. Touchdown is $20 and is the best app out there for Exchange mail, it works better than even a WM6.5 phone, it does calendar, task, mail, sub folders, and contacts..

2. My wife's N1 is completely stock and it has a pushed 2.2 install on it that is FR91 I think, so yes 2.2 is out from Google.. Other companies (HTC, Samsung, etc) have the final 2.2, I am just guessing they are making adjustments to it for their phones..

3. Come on!!!, "a phone is good for talking and synching email when not in front of your computer. Everyone on here wants more from there phone and would like it to replace their computer, camera, video recorder, etc...

The camera in the N1 is good for almost anything I need to take pictures or videos of.. I have a Nikon D60 SLR digital camera and a Sony HD video camera for birthdays or important events. But living my life pictures and videos the N1/Vibrant works awesome!! But to get better quality is a plus.. I have not used my smaller 12MP Sony digital camera since I got the N1..

The flash on the N1 is nice because the Vibrant has to open the shutter longer to get enough light for it to look right so any movement the picture is blurry.

4. case is important, I could not agree more.. I got my N1 on 1/6/10 and dropped it and broke the screen on 1/9/10.. It took 3 months to find a replacement screen, which is why I have 2 now, I had to buy a 2nd one while waiting for a replacement screen.

I guess I replied because the N1 is awesome for “living my life” pictures and use it everyday…
[Nexus One General] norazi:
that pretty much the main reason i was with iphone last year and switched to the nexus one this year. Both are among the few phones that support my $5 tzones plan… EDGE on the iphone and 3G/HSDPA on the nexus! I don’t care if some fancy new phone has this or that if im gonna have to for over $30/mo for data
[Nexus One General] Ki$han:
I got my Vibrant few days ago and I have following observations

+ Screen resolution is really vibrant.

+ It is fast.

+ Camera works very well in the dark in night mode (it is like day light pic).

+ Virtual keys works very well.

+ Separate brightness setting for Browser (it is not using ambient light sensor).

+ I didn't try GPS yet but it seems like working.

- Sometimes it is not working with domain account (I am having problem downloading apps, I have to kill data from Setting->Application->Download manager for this to work.)

- Charging port on the top very inconvenient.

- Lock/Unlock key is very small and at the odd place too.

- Response time for unlock key is slow (So many times I hit twice).

- Signal quality is not as good as my G1 and fender.

- There is no notification LED light (I have to unlock phone to see notification).

- It is hard to navigate text while typing without trackball sometimes it is too frustrating.

- Battery life is ok if I don't listen music otherwise it goes faster.

- Some stock widgets are missing because they add them to touchwiz but if you remove touchwiz and use something else like Launcher Pro or ADW launcher you won't be able to use those widget.

- Alarm application - you have to hold key to shut alarm off.

- You can not remove secondary Google account. you have to do master reset.

- It is little hard to take battery out with out any finger gaps.

- Browser menu key doesn't have book mark option (you have to hit menu key and then there is little button next to address bar for bookmarks).

- It looks like an iPhone and by the way there is no right way to hold it.

I don't have N1 but it would be great if N1 user can share similar stuff from their observation.

I am thinking about trading my Vibrant for Nexus. Just hardware is not good enough.
[Nexus One General] akalior88:
I had purchased the Vibrant the day it came out. I had bought the Mytouch Slide and decided to trade it before the 30 days was up. I will agree with everyone the screen is amazing. But i had so many difficulties with the phone. Main issue was GPS i did the fixes and had it replaced twice. and it NEVER worked right. Also the signal is terrible in all areas. I live in the SF valley outside of Los Angeles. I typically got 3 4 bars on my g1 and gfs my touch. The vibrant would only get 1 or 2 bars if that in the same places. I ended up trading it for a N1 and never looked back :) for the general mass the Vibrant is going to alot for Android and make people better aware of it. But the N1 runs circles around it :)
[Nexus One General] ryanolson7:
I had this same dilemma.. ended up getting a vibrant to check it out and I found that its a sick phone BUT the nexus one still beats it in speed.

Games on the vibrant are so amazing and lag free.. the gpu is def the best feature on it.

But in the end.. I decided to stick with my nexus :) after all.. it'll be the first phone to get android 3.0 .. which I imagine will be sexy considering we have one of the lead graphic designers from palm working with Google on this project ( you all know how elegant web OS is, imagine that mixed with android ;) )

Sent from my Nexus One
[Nexus One General] z3ntn3l:
I tested both: Nexus & GalaxyS.

I got my N1 in February so iam a happy Android 2.1/2-User for some time now.

On Saturday my Girlfriend got her GalaxyS and of course i played much with it over the Weekend.

For me there are 2 negative Points on the Nexus:

1.) Display brightness in daylight.

2.) Battery Lifetime. Its bad.

3.) Speaker (ok, i can live with it)

All the other parts are very good on the Nexus.

1. So i tested the GalaxyS and guess what: I was really blown away when i saw the Display. Its much better in direct sunlight, like its brighter in every Situation compared to the N1-Display. But thats not the whole Thing: Remember when some Milestone/Droid-Users told that they think the Milestone/Droid-Display is sharper than the N1-Display? I never believed it. Today i know more: The GalaxyS-Display is really way sharper than the N1-Display. Its true and i believe its because of the weird Subpixel-Thing with the N1-Display. I was always very happy with my N1-Display when it comes to sharpness but today iam not sure anymore. For now, the GalaxyS-Display is the very best Display you can get in a mobile Phone!

2. Battery Lifetime is clearly better than on the Nexus. Iam a Power User, doing a lot with my N1 every Day. So my average Battery Lifetime is about 8 - 15 hours. From my first tests i can say that the GalaxyS is something about 30% - 50% better in Battery Lifetime, even if the Display is bigger and brighter than the N1 and while using a brand new Battery! So i guess its realy something about 50% better Battery Lifetime.

3. Speaker, well i guess every Speaker is better than the N1-Speaker and so it is with the GalaxyS-Speaker. Its not superb but its OK while the N1-Speaker is just bad.

The Problems with the GalaxyS:

-Stock-ROM is ****. You heard about the "Lags"?, its true.

-Homescreen (TouchWiz3) is quite fast, faster than Stock-Android-Launcher but LauncherPro/ADW are smoother on the N1.

- Its Android 2.1 so no Apps2SD but thats not a real Problem because of the Internal Memory.

- PC-USB-Connection only after you installed the big and buggy "Samsung Kies" Software. WTF!

If i have to buy a new High-End Android-Phone today, it would be the GalaxyS. And that is of course no N1-bashing, i love my N1. Its just because the Technology went 6 months forward since the N1 was released.
[Nexus One General] Shahpur.Azizpour:
don't want to shock you, BUT the new SAMOLED screens from Samsung also use the PenTile Matrix. It's not as bad as on the N1 (MAINLY because the screen is SMALLER while the resolution is the same as N1, which means the Pixels are smaller on Galaxy S), but it's still very noticable.

If you want to see a great screen check out the motorola droid/milestone/droid x...hell any phone with wvga and lcd screen. LCD + WVGA is better than SAMOLED. And i'm pretty sure that the resolution on n1 with slcd will be better than galaxy s too.
[Nexus One General] z3ntn3l:
N1 Display = 3,7"

GalaxyS = 4,0"

Both have the same Resolution and so the Pixels on the GalaxyS must be bigger than on N1 but its very easy to see that the GalaxyS-Display is way sharper. Everything is sharper. After looking some Minutes on the GalaxyS-Display and then back to N1, the N1 seems to be "blurry" for me. I also noticed that black is better on GalaxyS compared to N1. Of course, the black on AMOLED is way better than on LCD but on the GalaxyS its even better than on AMOLED.

So what i told here is not because i tested it with some High-Tech-Instruments. It just what i can tell you after living 6Months with the N1 and testing 2 days the GalaxyS and for that, the GalaxyS-Display wins very easy the Match for usability in Daylight and sharpness compared to N1. The other Point, which is about usability too, goes also very easy to the GalaxyS: Battery Lifetime. Bigger and brighter Display but a Battery Lifetime that can goes for real 24 hours and not only a half day...
[Nexus One General] Shahpur.Azizpour:
you are correct of course, the galaxy s screen is actually bigger, i was thinking about the samsung wave screen (which is also SAMOLED and smaller than nexus one). :)

I'm not sure how the PenTile Matrix could be less visible on a bigger screen though, doesn't make much sense technically.

Either way i suggest you compare it to an LCD screen with WVGA. The lcds are sharper than any AMOLED which uses pentiel matrix layout.
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
i just played with the samsung galaxy s yesterday, and you guys are crazy. the nexus is way sharper. and that makes sense, right? both phones have the same crappy pentile matrix, but the galaxy is a bigger screen, which means the pixels are larger and easier to see with your eye. the smaller the screen, the tighter the pixels are and harder to see. its not a huge difference, but i clearly noticed it.

but the galaxy s displlay was SO THIN, it looked like your finger was touching the actual screen, compared to the nexus which has a very thick glass layer. that makes sense too though, amoled and super amoled are identical, just that one has merged the touch layer into one, so its thinner, and hence that's why its better in sunlight. but realiztically, indoors, both screens should look nearly identical.
[Nexus One General] heygrl:
"way sharper" ?? How so? .3" in size doesn't make anything "way" better or worse. Besides that I have to agree with the other sentiments including the sharper display. AMOLED is inferior at any size - period. That's why it's got the Super prefix.

SAMOLED brings a host of other improvements besides the insanely improve performance under direct sunlight. You're day dreaming if you think SAMOLED just brings better sunlight visibility.
[Nexus One General] Shahpur.Azizpour:
Are you serious? Just because Samsung calls it Super Amoled you think that everything is better? LOL. Any lcd with wvga will give you a better pixel density and resolution than samsungs crappy SAMOLED.

Sent from my Nexus One
[Nexus One General] heygrl:
You should read what I said again. You didn't get it.

Any crappy LCD at WVGA will still look washed next to an AMOLED panel. What's your point? Bitter?
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
well maybe "way sharper" is an exageration. but it clearly looked a little more fuzzy to my eyes compared to the nexus screen next to it.

EDIT: i've read that the other improvements of super AMOLE is better battery life. but i have yet to understand exactly what is going on with that. cause again it is my understanding that super amoled and amoled is the same exact screen, pentile and all, but just one has a thinner touch layer/glass screen which makes for better sunlight performance. what other benefits does super bring?
[Nexus One General] NexusDro:
Who knows. Perhaps they use brighter and more energy efficient LEDs.
[Nexus One General] flarbear:
The pentile arrangement of subpixels would require different rendering algorithms to make text (and thin lines) look sharp than on an LCD (Microsoft calls these algorithms "Cleartype" on Windows, but they are pretty much ubiquitous in the industry these days). When I look at my N1 display up close, and when I see the enlarged pictures of its text in the articles on its display, it looks very much like an LCD algorithm was used to render the text and the pentile arrangement thus caused it to be somewhat scrambled - leading to "fuzzy text".

But, if you clean up that algorithm and retune it for the pentile arrangement, it would look a lot sharper. Perhaps Samsung developed such algorithms for their version of Android, but the vanilla Android on the N1 just uses generic LCD text rendering algorithms...
[Nexus One General] NexusDro:
let's hope someone can port this algorithm to the n1 :D
[Nexus One General] pfmiller:
My understanding is that the extra touch layer on the N1's AMOLED in addition to making the phone thicker also reduced the transmittance of the display by about 30%. That is why the Super AMOLED is 30% brighter in sunlight and also why it is 30% more efficient when running at the same brightness.
[Nexus One General] mo_alikhan:
Super Amoled is much more.vibrant, and vivid. Also the battery life is amazing. Lasts me about 12hours or more...
[Nexus One General] rottenjello138:
a buddy of mine has the fascinate and i must admit, at first i was bit jealous.

the screen is gorgeous to say the least and the black levels were beyond amazing.

as he was navigating through his phone, it froze up. i couldn't help but laugh a little bit since the only thing he was doing besides listening to pandora was navigating menus

he was forced to battery pull and i was forced to inform him that my n1 had never locked up on me ;)

after pulling and rebooting, he continued to give his phone tour and what happened? oh yes, ANOTHER freeze up

after the second freeze he gave up and i couldn't help but feel glad that my n1 still can hold its own :)

long story short

nexus>galaxy
[Nexus One General] heygrl:
The freezing is Pandora's fault
[Nexus One General] rottenjello138:
soo even though pandora wasn't playing the second time it froze up, it was pandora's fault? and pandora's never caused my phone to freeze up even when multitasking soooo :rolleyes:
[Nexus One General] heygrl:
Are you kidding me? You really believe that is normal behavior? Lots of us complaining about our phones freezing up completely! NOT.
[Nexus One General] boodies:
great story. i have the same one except it was the nexus that crashed.... and the screen started malfunctioning.... and it was still ugly.

i mean really guys? how is this even a comparison? the only thing going for Nexus is near instant google support. The Galaxy blows that old phone out of the water in everything. You should see my Vibrant. I have the new Core Kernel + Fusion Rom = Everything is instant. Anyways, this is almost as ridiculous as EVO vs Epic.
[Nexus One General] stuff:
lawl. that literally shows nothing. You, to my assumption, have a custom rom built from here; seeing as you on xda developers with a N1.

He, probably doesn't have a custom rom. If so, he has Eclair with a ****ty RFS file system, which all around gives the phone a bit of lag.

If you put the two together, both rooted/custom rom, then the Galaxy S would win.

I have a Captivate for AT&T. And I have Froyo 2.2 rom, and it's amazing. I haven't had any difficulties. It's got a better AMOLED screen, and it's larger. So IMO it's automatically better.

I miss the LED and trackball, but would take better multi-touch (capable of 5 finger touch) any day
[Nexus One General] kolyan:
Key benefits of Galaxy S are: amazing SAMOLED display (with ZERO brightness I can still see the screen in direct sunlight), 4'' screen is just perfect and MUCH better then 3.7'' on Nexus, speaker is also VERY nice, GPS issue has been fixed for me, TouchWiz has some great features, and with custom ROM, Kernel, and Launcher Pro Plus this phone is pretty amazing.

I really miss flashlight and noise canceling speaker from Nexus....what was Samsung thinking....
[Nexus One General] Frito11:
knowing what i know about other samsung products i cannot in good faith buy samsung products. they often produce good things but their customer service is terrible and they will never recall products that have known flaws that will cause them to fail in a matter of a few years (see their LCD TV's made in 2007/2008 for example, they put too low of quality capacitors in the power supply and it results in all of them failing after a few years of use or longer depending on how much you use the TV)

my sister has a behold 2 when i used it i was so disgusted by what samsung did to android and how crappy it ran i right away flashed a CM image modded to work on them and its 10x better but still feels like a super cheap phone.

i cannot claim to have used any of the galaxy S phones, the screen probably is better than the N1's as it should be both of samsung AMOLED screens in them but the Galaxy S is the newest version, probably why HTC had to switch to SLCD screens on currently made N1's because Samsungs screwed them and stopped making the one that the N1 was designed to use. what i find really repulsive is how samsung felt that not only they needed to copy the look of an iphone with them but they also modded android to look like iOS, that is pretty lame and 100% typical of what samsung does IMO.
[Nexus One General] kamasi36:
Can't say I didn't warn you. By the time Vibrant gets an official Froyo Nexus will be a year old. Right now Nexus is still one of the best out there, it's customizable. 4g HD, Vanilla, MIUI, etc. That's why it is killing the Vibrant. I had a chance to play around with that piece of crap for almost a month. Rooted and all. The only thing it has going for it is screen resolution and games, other than that it's nowhere. To many problems to list, but the main problem is the manufacture. I remember you coming on here talking about getting Froyo in September. Here it is November 1st tomorrow and still no show. Happy with my Nexus and Evo. The Epic same story, but at least it has a front camera and LED flash. Evo is best of best right now.
[Nexus One General] mo_alikhan:
Galaxy S FTW

- Galaxy S Vibrant
[Nexus One General] heygrl:
Right

Typical ****ty ass HTC reception? Check

Terrible touch pad? Check

OK camera, horrible video recording? Check

Terrible codec support & Media Players? Check

Terrible speakerphone? Check

Inconsistent build quality? Check (Hey look I have dust under my screen too; wonder why we aren't complaining about that).

AMOLED display panel? Yeah, no SAMOLED!

Gorilla Glass? Nope.

MIUI? are you serious right now? If I want to have an iPhone I can buy one.

..not including the other various problems people have with the Nexus One. Don't come with garbage nonsense. They both have problems and the Nexus One has it's fair share of HTC downfalls.
[Nexus One General] dnsp:
To my knowledge they both have the same resolution.

You are simply f**** because your beloved HTC/N1 maybe is no more Google's choice.

Funny, I had a Desire for a week, and sincerely I thought to myself "is this thing that they say it's so damn good?" I was very disappointed. Loved my SGS even more after that.

HTC is overrated.
[Nexus One General] tameracingdriver:
Personally I'm more interested whether the phone works properly, which wasn't the case with the SGS.

Mine had a long list of niggles.

Laggy performance

Camera software that over-compresses images

GPS not working unless you didn't move (not very useful then)

Stuttering sound from the media player

Randomly going into a coma

Early firmwares were extremely unstable

I could go on...

The N1 and Desire actually work properly, and are faster in day to day use. To me thats more important. Horses for courses.
[Nexus One General] vvaffles:
personally i feel like the Galaxy S is superior in hardware pretty much hands down, but software wise nexus one is much better, also the rom support is amazing here on xda for the nexus.

if you like the novelty effect of a new phone, but cant afford to keep buying them, i would take a nexus one.

sense ui? check

stock android? check

miui (iphone-ish)? check

u can swap roms every week if you wanted to, i doubt u can do that with galaxy s any time soon