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[Droid Incredible General] TheTDL:
Samsung Intercept

I have the exact same problem, but with the Intercept. Can anyone post a step by step guide to mounting or maybe post a video so I could follow blindly on my blackedout screen? Thanks.
[Captivate General] atrain987:
Just got a Captivate (AT&T Branded S) the device seems awesome but the UI seems sluggish? Any advice to speed up the UI? I was using a HTC aria and the UI on it was much snappier.
[Captivate General] ConceptVBS:
What? how? what is the firmware? any bloatware installed on it?
[Captivate General] lgkahn:
where did you get it.. do you work for them? i dont see it on the website.
[Captivate General] lgkahn:
to speed up ui. try he stalling fix.. with the symlink.. assuming the root hack works.. keep us informed.
[Captivate General] atrain987:
Job Secuirty

For my job sake I'm really care not to give out that info. It has AT&T apps preinstalled but I'm not sure how that would affect the UI performance? All I know is the HTC "seemed" much faster than this device .
[Captivate General] mymansionisabox:
Please let us know if anything changes in terms of perkiness.

What aspects of the UI seems slow?

Responsiveness of touch?

Let us know whats going on, there are lots of interested people out here!
[Captivate General] jonsoini:
atrain, you'll likely have to do the lag fix mentioned above, I was in the same boat, the myTouch Slide felt much snappier until I did the fix on my carrier-branded Galaxy.
[Captivate General] accinfo:
OMG! I CAN"T WAIT FOR IT :{

I NEEd the releASE DATE.

guys mind my sudden lost of sanity.
[Captivate General] mickeko:
Suppose the firmware revisions are different on those, but guess it doesn't hurt to ask: What's the firmware version on it? :)

(enter *#1234# in the phone app to find out)
[Captivate General] t-readyroc:
Yes, any more information that you could give about the device w/o compromising your career would be appreciated. As mymansionisabox said, there are tons of people here interested.

To the rest of us: if this guy's legit, & he does indeed have a Captivate in-hand, then we can assume he's an AT&T rep of some sort. If they're giving the handsets out to employees for play-time/testing, release must be pretty close. I do find it odd, however, that he thinks the UI is slow, since the innumerable videos on the web from the 6/29 event didn't show any such lag in the Captivate... The only video that showed any UI lag was the Engadget vid where the person shooting was at a Starbucks & admitted that they were playing w/a pre-production device. All of the videos of the Captivate at the 6/29 event (which came after that Engadget vid) showed no such lag.
[Captivate General] mickeko:
But who knows what kind of "improvements" at&t has done to the firmware since showcasing it?
[Captivate General] carlo0810:
I tried the galaxy s the other day and the UI is indeed slow especially when live wallpapers are active, also got used to the desire's hardware keys which made using the galaxy a bit difficult, also the interface is a bit boring...
[Captivate General] tamanaco:
Without showing parts of the UI that might disclose your identity... would you be able to make and post a video of the UI and show the issues that you're experiencing? Short of that... as mentioned before... can you tell us the firmware version and if your Captivate is pre-release or if it is the hardware and software that's going to be "officially" released.
[Captivate General] atrain987:
Update

I removed the live wall paper and some large widgets and the UI seems better, I think I was just spoiled by how insanely fast the UI is on the HTC aria.

Can you root the Galaxy S without putting a stock firmware on it? I need to leave the AT&T firmware on the device.

Sorry I am noob on android still.
[Captivate General] atrain987:
No

Its the release build, but yeah sorry no videos.
[Captivate General] t-readyroc:
OK, srsly? I may have to call b.s. on OP. Sure, Aria's UI is quick/responsive, but I find it hard to believe Captivate's that much slower, no matter what AT&T might've done to it since 6/29.

No videos. Fine. Don't think I'm all-in on this crazy train w/o some sort of proof, though.
[Captivate General] atrain987:
Okay

The Captivate is awesome once you have a app open like the 720p MKV file I was watching on it earlier, but the UI is sluggish compared to HTC aria.

I came here just looking for tips to improve performance I could care less about "forum glory".
[Captivate General] carlo0810:
It actually isnt what at&t may have done to the firmware, the galaxy i tried wasnt locked to a carrier, and it was slow, especially when the ocean live wallpaper was active...
[Captivate General] t-readyroc:
Well, since AT&T just officially announced availability in 10days, I guess I'm going to have to reverse my stance.

I still can't comprehend how the UI is slow compared to the Aria, though.

**Edit - Samsung confirmed the date/pricing as well. 10days to go, boyos!
[Captivate General] atrain987:
UI

It does seem faster now that I have replaced the stock home screen with LauncherPro Beta. Maybe its just the touchwize homescreen that is slow? Again app performance is fine it was just the homescreen UI.
[Captivate General] t-readyroc:
Is side-loading apps locked like it is for the Aria? Can you tell us what AT&T apps are pre-loaded?
[Captivate General] :
All the normal AT&T apps are there just like Aria, where is a app site can I easily test for side loading?
[Captivate General] :
The native Xvid\Divx\MKV is awesome. Its plays 3.1 720p MKV's great.
[Captivate General] :
Just tried Rockplayer, side loading is blocked still.
[Captivate General] t-readyroc:
Just check to see if the "Unknown sources" setting is available, as it's shown here.
[Captivate General] :
Its not there, no easy side loading :(
[Captivate General] mymansionisabox:
All of us definitely appreciate the info.

As far as sluggishness goes.. my main concern..

Have you talked to anyone about it (presumably that you work with)

To think that the phone with such a powerful processor right out the box to be sluggish is hard for me to imagine/understand/chew on. ( I really want a zippy android)

In fact, I almost trust AT&T with processor speed due to the incredible speed output from the mere 600mhz Aria.

But since I don't have it in my possession I'm gong to trust you :D

I tried to add a video, however, I can't post outside links yet.

atrain987, would it be possible for you to find a video that demonstrates what the phone is doing. I am not saying for you to record your own, there are many videos already online.

There is a video that was uploaded on June 30th that claims it is an AT&T launch party. It demonstrates the phone quite well. It is called "Samsung Captivate Hands-on - AT&T's Galaxy S" on metacafe

However, you did say that you replaced touchwiz with LaunchPro Beta and that made it much speedier?

Keep us posted, I know I appreciate it.
[Captivate General] aeo087:
Can you please post the firmware version? there's been some changes to the UI including the center homescreen being the main one... I don't know if samsung did this or AT&T... AT&T is known for sticking their hands everywhere... The newer firmwares on the Galaxy S actually perform pretty well, they're pretty snappy, but to eliminate the lag, you do need to do the stall fix...

So, firmware version please? :D
[Captivate General] caelestis2:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/08/samsung-captivate-coming-to-atandt-on-july-18-for-200/
[Captivate General] jhnstn00:
How much RAM?

How much Available RAM with no apps or widgets running?
[Captivate General] accinfo:
That sounds about right, ATT just released the release date today.

and he got the phone yesterday... pretty believable

July18! July18! 200 bucks like tmobile!

But i'll be buying without contract and use it in tmobile service,

I love the design but not the plan.

Thanks guyyys, especially aTrain :]
[Captivate General] emelie:
just as a sidenote:

i have an unbranded galaxy s (europe-version) and can confirm a very noticeable increase in speed when choosing launcherpro instead of touchwiz.
[Captivate General] mymansionisabox:
I keep checking back to this thread.. constantly haha.

I'm anxious to know more. I really want an Android phone.

More importantly, I want one that functions like it should.
[Captivate General] landale:
I agree on the design if only because it's the only one that doesn't look like an iPhone but by doing this you are still stuck with AT&T's locked down app installing and you won't have 3G. To me that's too much to give up.
[Captivate General] accinfo:
Locked down app? Root / Rom will fix that.

3G? I'll try to not sign up for a data plan with tmobile and hope they won't know that i have a smartphone. On a plus, I'll have longer battery life.
[Captivate General] mickeko:
You'll probably pay some crazy default traffic charge for data if you don't sign up with a data plan (it's around 2 USD/MB in sweden).
[Captivate General] Maverick777:
They'll know what your using based on the IMEI that registers each time you use the phone. You'll still get 3G voice service without a data plan.

However, if you want to use the internet and such, you'll need a data plan of some sort. Otherwise, there would be no way for you to setup a connection. So it's not like T-mobile will care since you wouldn't be able to access anything without the data plan.
[Captivate General] Battlehymn:
You'll be stuck at EDGE speeds, T-Mobile and AT&T use different 3G bands. I don't think that the radio for the AT&T version will support T-Mobiles 3G bands, and vice versa.

Although if it does, that would make either of the GSM Galaxy S phones the ultimate world phone.

And, YES, they will know you have a smart phone on the network. AT&T already does this ... even if you buy an unlocked cell phone and put your SIM in it, the network will add a data plan to your bill if it is determined to be a smartphone.

Case in point: my wife bought an unlocked blackberry pearl, put her SIm in it and about 7 hours later recieved a text message from AT&T stating that a "required" data package had been added to our plan. She was very non-plussed by this ans made me spend a little over an hour on the phone with AT&T to get it removed. The AT&T rep I spoke to confirmed that this is now an automated function on the network, and it requires a MANAGER to override the addition of the data plan.
[Captivate General] AndroidZ28:
T-Mobile does not add data plans unless you request one. They also don't bill you per megabyte. If you don't sign up for data, you don't get data. AT&T does force data plans though.
[Captivate General] Battlehymn:
Good to know ... I wish the T-Mobile footprint was larger here in the US.
[Captivate General] lgkahn:
come one give us some info

1. can it be rooted same way.

2. can you flash regular jg1 etc. os.. if so what do all 4 buttons do.

and does the radio still work with att 850 mhz 3g???

here is hopeing then it will be perfect phone for att 3g in the u.s.
[Captivate General] accinfo:
What do you mean by footprint?

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Yeah i'll be totally fine with EDGE speed for calling / texting.

I've been using phones that cost $20 USD for the past 4 years, I'm pretty sure I won't die without 3G.
[Captivate General] PersonOfKnownOrigin:
He means their coverage area
[Captivate General] accinfo:
Once you're in their coverage area, you're in luck :]

Plus More plan & HSPDA+ speed > Sprint's WiMax
[Captivate General] Balthazar B:
Sadly, T-Mo's coverage in the US would be more aptly described as a heelprint.
[Captivate General] jhnstn00:
Friggin Hilarous.......ALOL
[Captivate General] djfotizo:
hoping to get a captivate as well

hey guys, i am looking to get a captivate this sun as well. coming from the wonderful world of winmo since the wizard days... i am hoping this thread will steer back on topic so i can make a more informed decision in 6 days...
[Captivate General] t-readyroc:
You & me both. Still using my 8525 right now. Check out the Captivate forum over @ AndroidForums for lots of info.
[Captivate General] tonyc0642:
The phone isn't out till the 18th, so the OP probably works for at&t. My buddy that works for T-Mobile had his HD2 almost 3 weeks before launch. From what I've been told, they allow some techs to get the device early so they are up to speed for all the calls they will undoubtedly get once it's launched. It's plausible.
[Captivate General] t-readyroc:
Yep. I reversed my position a couple posts after that one, if ya kept readin' ;)
[Captivate General] tonyc0642:
Woopsy. Freakin' noob move. My bad mang.
[Captivate General] MOGILES:
Just came from the att store my boi got the captivate in, its pretty badass cant wait for the 18th to go buy it everything so smooth, getting tired of the xandroid on my touch pro 2 unlocked from t mobile its not the same when everything not working on it, i feel like life is muted.....:( 5 more days:D
[Captivate General] djfotizo:
forums

thanks t-readyroc! i had landed on a couple threads there via googleage, so with your suggestion I will create an account :D
[Captivate General] djteiwaz:
I just got to play with this phone in a local ATT store. I do kinda see what the OP was saying. I had an Aria in one hand and the Captivate in the other. The Aria seemed really smooth in transition while the Captivate was fast but seemed jittery. I think it may be more of a trick to the eye because the background moves just a little when you swipe the windows. Otherwise, every app I played with, email, internet, everything was really fast and sharp. The camera takes great pics with very little zoom time (unlike my HTC HD). The phone itself seems well built and extremely light weight. Overall I left very impressed and am planning to pick it up this weekend.
[Captivate General] djteiwaz:
"The camera takes great pics with very little zoom time (unlike my HTC HD)."

Very little focus time rather.
[Captivate General] abezapata:
I can not wait until this sunday and more importantly I can not wait until the community behind this phone (along with its variations) takes off. I am excited to see what marvelous and ingenious things the community will be able to accomplish on this magnificent phone.
[Captivate General] djfotizo:
UI Lag

I was watching a youtube video with the Galaxy S Vs Droid X, and the UI of the X (motoblur) pretty much smokes the Galaxy S (touchwiz). I will definitely be looking to root/re-Ui pretty quickly so I certainly hope the community gets behind the phone quickly as well. All the apps are snappy, etc, so only the UI seems to be the problem. You guys can take a look at the video here. Speed test starts at 2:05
[Captivate General] mymansionisabox:
I hate to be skeptical of that video djfotizo posted youtube .com/watch?v=nIQJ-3a96oM&feature=related (sorry, it wont let me post links yet)

but I think that some of those droid applications had already been launched and were in memory.

For example, clearly the galaxy s loads up the youtube videos from the internet, which explains why the droid and galaxy s showed a different ordering of videos where they 'should' be the same. That occurs around 3:08

Basically the droid won wherever the galaxy s 'reloaded' from the internet. Maps, browser, youtube, etc. Although, the droid is superiorly faster in some areas than the galaxy s, I just want to point out that I don't think this speed test was done properly; i.e. rebooting both phones and starting the test while they have similar uptime.

Plus, for those of you are interested, there have been many video reviews highlighting the fact that the 'hard button' menu items that are just below the screen are EXTREMELY laggy. Basically, it was described as feeling the haptic feedback from the press, but the phone 'thinks' for a moment then goes to homescreen etc.

It is believed a simple update can fix this.

In the event that the test was done properly, kudos to Motorolo and the Droid, that was straight up amazing fast. I believe with decent benediction and desire on Samsung's part could easily get similar results from the Galaxy S brand due to its superior hardware. :D

I can't wait till Sunday
[Captivate General] ogen:
Touchwizz is crap mate. Go get launcher pro and enjoy the good life :-)
[Captivate General] smis:
Does it have a front facing camera?
[Captivate General] Panduh:
No front facing camera... I would like to know that my phone will have that, but I would never use it
[Captivate General] gtg465x:
The fix will not be simple. The stalling issue is what you're talking about and it's not directly related to the hard buttons (though they often induce the problem indirectly). The problem stems from the fact that app data on the Galaxy S is stored on a portion of internal memory that happens to be too slow. Thus the phone seems to 'stall' ('think') for a moment when it has to read or write any significant amount of data to this slow memory. When the Home or Back hard buttons are pressed and the phone switches applications or goes back to the home screen some reading and writing to/from this slow memory must take place and the user experiences a pause/stall/whatever you want to call it.

There is a fix posted which involves moving app data to a faster portion of memory, but people seem to be running into various problems doing this. Here's a thread about fixing the stalling issue: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=724251

Having owned a Samung phone in the past, I fear they will never fix this issue, and even if they do, I imagine it will take them quite a while. Most people who buy this phone will never know there is a problem. They will just think the phone is a bit slow at times and will never know that other Android phones don't pause like that. Unfortunate.
[Captivate General] t-readyroc:
No. Full specs.
[Captivate General] bjabah:
Wow, I thought I would be the only person going from an 8525 to the Captivate...

bja
[Captivate General] LockeCPM4:
I'm in the same boat as the OP. I have had my Captivate for about a week and I too noticed the sluggishness.

I turned off the live wallpapers, which helped a lot, as well as disabling any widgets I don't use such as the Samsung Widgets "Daily Briefing" and "Buddies now" and that helped a lot. I also use Advanced Task killer to close any apps I don't need running in the background. Also, I noticed the phone seems to run smoother now a week later than when I got it, so I can turn live wallpapers back on with little effect on speed. The only areas I still notice lag in now is hitting the back button, home button and sometimes the keyboard does not pop up instantly.

BTW, multimedia on this thing is amazing. The camera is crisp and bright, and the 720p video recording looks fantastic (except I shake a lot when using it). I scored 56.1 FPS in the Neocore benchmark app which officially makes the Captivate the fastest gaming device running Android (even faster than EVO 4G, DroidX, and Nexus One according to androidcentral).

I think that the interface will be much smoother when we get android 2.2 (possibly late August/Early September but not holding my breath).

Side-loading is blocked unless you use the Android SDK to load your apps.

Preinstalled AT&T Apps:AT&T Family Map, AT&T Radio, AT&T Maps, AT&T Navigator, AT&T Music, AT&T Hotspots, Mobile Video, Mobi TV, and YellowPages Mobile. I use navigator and yellow pages a lot and the rest don't really get in my way.

I can't wait for media hub from Samsung to go live. Once that is active you will be able to rent/buy movies and tv shows in HD.

As far as specs, the Android system app shows the phone has a maximum of 326MB of usable RAM, so I assume that some of it is reserved strictly for the OS itself. Using advanced task killer I am able to keep my FREE ram at about 170MB.

The Firmware version is 2.1-update 1, with a kernel of 2.6.29 (jet

aek.lee@-11 #2) and a baseband of I897UCJF6

And no, I have not tried rooting so please don't ask me how.
[Captivate General] systoxity:
lol locke you should root and you should get all the new patches etc so it will go faster.
[Captivate General] LockeCPM4:
As i am new to xda, would you kindly point me in the right direction?
[Captivate General] DailyApper:
the keyboard on my captivate is lagging to the point I can't even type on it.

swype, android keyboard, or the samsung keyboard.

Completely no response to touch. Restarted and got the same issue.

crap...
[Captivate General] tonyc0642:
Try going into your keyboard settings and turning off word completion. When its on its constantly searching for matching words as you type, and can cause heavy keyboard lag.
[Captivate General] bwolmarans:
This scares me because I just upgraded my Aria to Captivate ... and the MAIN thing I loved and NEEDED in my Aria was the super-fast UI, because I think and type and do stuff fast. If my captivate is slow I will be so disappointed!
[Captivate General] mymansionisabox:
I've noticed that launcher pro is significantly faster than touchwiz.

Also, I feel that there is a bug on samsung's part with the 4 capacitive buttons "menu home back search"

They are quite oddly slow on this phone. You get the haptic feedback, then it just sits for a moment.

I've noticed that with Launcher pro the lag has dissipated a lot. Or.. its fooling me into believing that :rolleyes:

As far as ram goes.. I believe that Android 2.1 is limited in recognizing a certain amount. I believe that 2.2 Froyo addresses this.

If you go to this page : hxxp://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.2-highlights.html (replace the xx's with tt)

Find 2.6.32 kernel upgrade

It specifies: "HIGHMEM support for RAM >256MB"

I look forward for Froyo :D
[Captivate General] jhnstn00:
what do you loose when going to launcher pro? can you revert back to Touchwiz? Do you lose what you saved on touchwiz home screens?
[Captivate General] phishie:
I picked up a Captivate last Thursday and also notice the sluggishness. I previously used an iPhone 3G (no comparison there) and an HTC Incredible. The Incredible very rarely had lags in comparison to the Captivate.

I'm noticing a 1-3 second lag often when hitting the home button, hitting back, coming out of sleep with the power button, and loading the drawer. Also, probably most annoyingly, often when coming out of sleep I can't immediately touch in my unlock pattern. Often the first time I draw my pattern I don't get any "green circles" or I won't start getting "green circles" till mid-way through my pattern (obviously ends in failure).

I'm running ADW launcher, JuiceDefender (easy mode) and have SystemPanel installed although I don't use it to close apps very often as I like the idea of trusting Android's memory management. The only widgets I use are Google, Pandora, Wapedia, Power Management, and Dictionary.com WOTD.

I have Launcher Pro installed but use ADW because of the finer control over Screen Preferences (row & column counts) and icon/widget stretching... although I prefer Launcher Pro's Dock and missed call/text/email badges.

Any ideas or red herrings on what the source of my lags may be? Has anyone used ADW and Launcher Pro extensively and have an opinion of whether ADW causes lags?
[Captivate General] dasco49:
I got the captivate on launch day, I put launcherpro and still had issues with lag. I rooted the phone yesterday and did a factory reset. The phone is running perfect now, no issues moving from screens runs really fast now. Now just waiting for a fix for exchange email and the gps.
[Captivate General] jhnstn00:
Still no la

gs after factory reset?
[Captivate General] dasco49:
So far so good, still running smooth. I had my google search widget freak out but i just trashed it and added it back in.
[Captivate General] phishie:
Any noticeable effect on battery life?
[Captivate General] dasco49:
Not really, I can go about 7 hours before I need a charge, but that's without live wallpaper and light web browsing. The only thing that is a little annoying exchange email, does not update and is a little slow. But I believe that will be taken care of in froyo.
[Captivate General] phishie:
7 hours of light usage? That sounds pretty bad.
[Captivate General] dasco49:
Yeah now that I think about it I am on the phone a lot messing with it since I'm new to android so battery life would be longer