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[Hero CDMA Android Development] Brandito:
free ram is wasted ram. if you always have 70mb free you always have 70mb wasted. i don't know where the idea that having more ram free makes your phone faster, or computer for that matter but i'd really wish people would learn to understand that memory is meant to be used. the whole point is to load frequently used data and currently running apps to fast memory from slow storage media so things load faster.

yeah it's good to have a certain amount of free memory, but you don't want to go overboard or you're just letting it go to waste.

also an app in memory is not necessarily running. this is especially the case with android. just because a process is shown for an app doesn't mean it's running and consuming cpu cycles. memory will draw the same amount of power no matter how much of it is used, it uses most memory when you're removing data from it or adding it back when you have to use it again.

so if you have an app you use frequently that you remove from memory all the time, android has to waste cpu cycles to load it back to memory consuming even more power.

the os is smarter than you when it comes to knowing how to manage its memory usage. it was coded by people smarter than the vast majority of us to know what to do.

like others have mentioned above, read up on how android works and you'll understand how worthless auto task killers really are and how much they actually hurt battery life.

i know someone will inevitably say, "but my phone just feels "snappier" with atk." to them i say it's all psychosomatic. without some hard data to back it up it's no more valid a way to save battery than surrounding your phone with power crystals.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dirkyd3rk:
ahhhh finally i had like 8 people against me my friend, well said i couldnt agree more. you make a valid point i know task killers and autostarts and autokillers are worthless to me, froyo is the king when it comes to managing processes.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] theimpaler747:
That's because froyo is blazing fast!! ;)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] rundmcarlson:
Anyone who is still arguing about autokillers should realize that they don't mean anything. If you use a batt tweak, the more battery you have the higher cpu usage you experience. The things that kill battery most are all the radio connections (bt, 3g, wifi, etc.) I downloaded tasker and set everything off unless an app that uses it is launched. Now, my 3g is ONLY on if an app requires it. Same for gps and bt. My bt comes on when I get a call or make one and turns off after. My battery life runs into 3 days and everything I do responds immediately to commands. You can also set your 3g to come on a few times a day if you want to sync. That still imporved performance for me. With all the connections off, nothing is operating in the bg. Also, most things that look like theyre running in task managers arent doing anything. They are just inactive apps that still show up.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dirkyd3rk:
correct you are impaler, i didnt imagine froyo on our heros but these amazing peeps made it possbile :D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] theimpaler747:
And boy is it speedy! Thank you to everyone but Sprint :D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] UniqueNate:
Does anyone have a good healthy gapps download? I've tried countless ones and all fail
[Hero CDMA Android Development] stayclean:
To be fair, Sprint really did sort of shoot themselves in the foot with insisting on rolling out 4G before basically any carrier, as opposed to a longer, slower, maybe better planned out roll out of it. That, and releasing a phone that was already long in the tooth before it's US release..

It is amazing the work various devs have done to make the Hero not a complete POS though, that's for sure. Had to run the RUU the other week for one reason or another (I actually forget now.. d'oh), and that was the first time I have ran the phone stock since the day I got it... yikes.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] stayclean:
http://cyanogenmod-mirror.local.host.name/gapps/gapps-mdpi-20101020-signed.zip
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dirkyd3rk:
is that another one on my side lol well its now 3 of us but its like 20 of them
[Hero CDMA Android Development] theimpaler747:
I've agreed with you from the start ;)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] stayclean:
I think very, very few people are endorsing ACTUAL task KILLERS, but we can continue to beat this dead horse to a bigger pulp if we want. :p
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dirkyd3rk:
Yeah but you're the man you're always right and I know you did bro lol you are the walking heroc wiki so you don't count u already knew that hahaha PS thanks for your input man its always helpful

"They see me trollin' they hatin" lol
[Hero CDMA Android Development] theimpaler747:
No problem man lol :D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dkratter14:
Now the nightly failed even earlier in the process. Maybe now someone will notice and fix it.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dirkyd3rk:
Try the rc1 6.1 dude its out I think Impaler put a link in the cm6 stable thread I'm running the new stable cm6.1 its awesome

"They see me trollin' they hatin" lol
[Hero CDMA Android Development] theimpaler747:
It is amazing, especially with my theme ;)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dkratter14:
Today's nightly build would be NEWER than rc1.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] theimpaler747:
Lol instant gratification
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dirkyd3rk:
Nightly is already up lol sheesh that's fast I just got rc1 wow well guess I'm gonna try to flash it to then

"They see me trollin' they hatin" lol
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Brandito:
there's good reason they're called nightlies!

but there's not one up newer than the rc for our hero so don't waste your time. they keep feeling at uploading to the mirror, though i guess someone mentioned tonight it failed at a different point.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] hotaru:
wow. a lot of misconceptions are being posted in this thread. time to clear a few things up:

autokiller is not a task killer. it adjusts the settings for the kernel's built-in memory management.

"free" ram on android is not unused. the system uses it to cache things. if it gets below a certain point, the system doesn't run right.

just because an app runs at startup, that doesn't mean it keeps running. a lot of apps do a bit of housekeeping at startup and then exit. certain apps might not work right (and could end up using very large amounts of phone storage over time) if you don't let them do that.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dirkyd3rk:
And this is why android will always be better than osx and winmo. Linux for the win

"They see me trollin' they hatin" lol
[Hero CDMA Android Development] theimpaler747:
+1 to that! Android all the way
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Lookn4me:
I downloaded the 6.1.0 RC1, but it fails on install with an error.... Any Ideas?? Do Iuse the Hero or Heroc version? I have a sprint CDMA Hero
[Hero CDMA Android Development] theimpaler747:
Heroc 10char
[Hero CDMA Android Development] j.c.briggs:
Use heroc.

10 char!!!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] fifedogg:
Not trying to argue with you bro. But I know for a fact that atk does in fact close those apps. I can check in system panel and they will longer be running. It's the reason why my phone will go from a 470 to a 509 quadrant score after I close all the apps in the backround.

I've read that article and don't find everything in it fact. I understand Linux uses memory different than say Windows. I score over 500 on quadrant every time with jit enabled. It can't do it with 15 apps running in the background that's for sure.

What do you do if a app pulls CPU while open but doesn't have an exit option?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Brandito:
apps don't need an exit button. android takes care of it. in fact google recommends app devs DON'T use exit buttons for their apps.

if you only care about high scores in synthetic benchmarks then by all means do whatever it takes to get that high score. at the end of the day they're just bragging rights, nothing overly useful.

when you're done using an app hit the home/back button. the latter i believe will generally close most apps.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] vita10gy:
Do you have a file named .nomedia in these folders? It's possible that it's recursive so only one in the root would do that.

Also, to the people CONSTANTLY asking for the newest gapps. Are you guys wiping every time? All you really need is one that has the market in it, the apps are available in there. The new ones will have everything updated, but an older one is just one "update all" away from it.

I feel like way too many people are asking about those, and that there might be some misconceptions about them.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dirkyd3rk:
I approve this message because i invented the internet :D good day
[Hero CDMA Android Development] hotaru:
i fix it (download the source if it's available, use apktool otherwise) or uninstall it. apps shouldn't be using enough cpu that i notice it when i'm not using them.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] CrashV2010:
LOVE IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Stramondroid:
Just an update on the 'unofficial' community build project of the nightlys (between myself and Sodikop)

We have succesfully compiled the source into a shiny new update otapackage.

I will sync to the repo when i get home each night, and start the compile about 8pm eastern to let all changes replicate.

I will check and wait to see if the newest build is available through traditional means..

PS I have flashed the rom on my phone, and it works perfect. The update is also named just as cyanogen would want it. I cannot select this, the output does it.

:)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] fifedogg:
Well I guess everyone is against me on this but I believe there are a few appz on my system that when left open make my battery go down way faster. Maybe its just in my head lol.

On a side note does anyone have an idea why my phone won't nandroid backup since I've installed 99 nightly and up? It gets stuck on backing up data but never completes the backup.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] someonenewhere:
Link for gapps doesn't work........jeesh!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] davec1234:
Where can we get this at ?

CM 6.1.0-RC1 Android 2.2.1 Froyo Darchstar

BFS #14 Decad3nce

Radio 2.42.01.04.27

*Bite me Sprint!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] liquidtenmillion:
Hate to ask this again, but has anyone noticed with 6.1 if you press home the app slides out of view instead of fading out?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dirkyd3rk:
Yes I have noticed this as well, you don't like it? whats the prob?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Brandito:
anyone else killing apps left and right on accident with the re-tweak to the back button long press?

titanium backup was killed by me 3-4 times last night, and i swear to you i ever so slightly tapped the button. here's to hoping the re-re-tweak it or give us a couple options for the amount of time to hold it.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Stramondroid:
I havent posted it yet. Wanted to get a general consensus before doing so. After the initial compile, it seems subsequent complies dont take as long. I can drum one up pretty quick.

Do you all want this posted?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dirkyd3rk:
Yes please it would be greatly appreciated :-)

"They see me trollin' they hatin" lol
[Hero CDMA Android Development] CrashV2010:
Dude you would rock if you guyz can do this, it will take off right from the cm6.1 RC1 right ?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Stramondroid:
Now available for download!!

Yes. I kinda figured you would say that. 4 new insertions since last night. im compiling now, link soon.

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PLATFORM_VERSION=2.2.1

TARGET_PRODUCT=cyanogen_heroc

TARGET_BUILD_VARIANT=eng

TARGET_SIMULATOR=false

TARGET_BUILD_TYPE=release

TARGET_BUILD_APPS=

TARGET_ARCH=arm

HOST_ARCH=x86

HOST_OS=linux

HOST_BUILD_TYPE=release

BUILD_ID=FRG83

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update-cm-6.1.0-RC1-Heroc-signed.zip

ebc6c0a2b0a2dc14ea78adf2cb92bb8c update-cm-6.1.0-RC1-Heroc-signed.zip *-MD5
[Hero CDMA Android Development] stayclean:
It was changed in a nightly, I just leave that option off.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Stramondroid:
Man this update is flying!!!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Brandito:
yes but it was changed for the better at one point!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] gobogblue:
Is this newer then the RC1 from the team douche mirror?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Stramondroid:
Yes it is newer. And will be updated daily while I can.

;)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] gobogblue:
I love you in a non gay kinda way :D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dhero1:
Will you be updating the filename, or will the filename be the same as the RC1 distribution? Just a passive agressive thought ... :p
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Stramondroid:
I have thought about this. I can add a date tag, the modified file has it but just to elude confusion.

Guess its flashing ok huh?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dhero1:
It has for me, and thank you! :)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] davec1234:
Yes please

CM 6.1.0-RC1 Android 2.2.1 Froyo Darchstar

BFS #14 Decad3nce

Radio 2.42.01.04.27

*Bite me Sprint!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Osirus71:
Hey dhero, how is that firerats partition working for you?? do you like it??? do you see it making that much of a difference??? thanks.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Stramondroid:
Page 555
[Hero CDMA Android Development] pwachleman:
Hey, I have a recommendation, why dont you set up a new thread for this where you can post the latest and greatest on the main page like most of the other threads? That way all of us junkies aren't trying to sort through 600 pages every night trying to find the latest...thanks for doing this!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Sodikop:
Thanks again for this Stramon, flashed fine and running beautifully.

:D

EDIT: I agree with pwachleman, a seperate thread for these "unofficial" nightlies is a great idea!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] someonenewhere:
404 pages on the URL's ...anyone know where else i can get gapps?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Drizzzle01:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Latest_Version

At the bottom Cyanogen 6 under MDPI dated 20101020
[Hero CDMA Android Development] pwachleman:
Sorry, this doesnt work, hasnt for days.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] squigglyrulez:
Try mirror1. The main download link doesnt work, but the mirror does for me... Its right next to the download link on that page.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] CrashV2010:
Here is a big question for yall, Is it possible, since maps and few other gapps files have updated since 10/20, is it possible to make a new gapps as well and just throw everything together ?

That would be badass, then ppl wouldn't have to ask where do I get gapps, where do I have to find the latest updates, blah blah blah... It would eliminate half the thread, lol !!!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] norm12:
Before I say anything else...thanks so much, this is running well on my device and I'm rather impressed by your work and dedication. I think our community also appreciates this. I noticed in your post you mentioned ota updates----how do I do that or was it a typo?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dedian:
Otapackage is just the build target in the process - it wont allow ota updates
[Hero CDMA Android Development] norm12:
oh ok, I got it---was a little confused and excited at the same time
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Stramondroid:
Correct. Its not a typo. I added it to my main sig for easier access.

Ill create a new thread in a little while. Got a massive migraine for days now. And. No. Its not a tumor. ;)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] norm12:
Good luck with the migraine and thanks again.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Sodikop:
Me and Stramondroid have talked briefly on this...and the consensus is that we can't "roll" the gapps in for the same reason the official nightlies don't. Legal issues with Google is what it boils down to I'm sorry to say.

If anyone wants to correct me or expand, please feel free.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] xDragod:
If I remember correctly, Google asked Cyanogen to keep Google Apps separate from the ROM?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Osirus71:
can anyone tell me the process of using BatteryTweak-DecaMODv2.2(Collin_ph Battery Tweak)??? I downloaded it and installed it via recovery but dont see anything in the app drawer or anywhere else. i didnt want to use setcpu. is this command line based??? any help is appreciated. thanks.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] theimpaler747:
I told you how in your other post ;)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Stramondroid:
Ok new thread is done. If I need to change/add something, lemme know!

Post over there if you like it, its really my first OP, so I guess you can say im shy about it.. haha..

Also, I created a folder on the mediashare site, and added the date, if you previously downloaded todays, then the date stamp wont matter, but it should hold a few of them up there, and Ill keep the copies for as long as I can, in case someone needs to go back or something. Im sure Sodikop will do the same.

The Gapps is correct, we will keep them separate.

Thanks for all the appreciation by the way. More than free beers ( I dont drink ) I love pats on the back... hint hint.. hahaha

...................................................................................Head feels a lil better..
[Hero CDMA Android Development] CrashV2010:
Jackass, lol... I just said something about him on the other thread....
[Hero CDMA Android Development] liquidtenmillion:
I've found a bug in Cyanogenmod 6.1.0 RC1.

Touch-to-focus no longer works properly in the camera app. Previously, if you enable "touch to focus" in the camera and then click on any area on the screen, it will focus in that area. I have restored a nandroid of 6.0.0 and it did work as expected. I then did a wipe and installed rc1 and it did not work.

Here is how I tested it.

Experienced behavior:

I placed my hand close to the phone and pointed the phone at a picture at the distance. I enabled touch to focus mode. I backed out of the camera and went back in and clicked on my hand. It focused properly. I then clicked on the background and the phone readjusted, however it ended up focusing on the hand again. Clicked it again and it focused on my hand again. Moved my hand and touched the picture and it focused on it properly, put my hand back and clicked on the picture and it focused on the hand...

What should have happened(and did on previous builds) was the camera would properly focus on the item i touched every time.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] jmkarnai01:
For some odd reason my Google maps updated by themselves. Sorry for people's whose didn't
[Hero CDMA Android Development] jmkarnai01:
Super fast....super awesome. Thanks to everyone for their hard work. Did I say super awesome.

Sent from my HERO200 6.1.0-RC 1...#14..theimpalergold
[Hero CDMA Android Development] robbiep:
Gapps are set to auto-update by default. You'd have to uncheck each one in the market to turn it off.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] BlaqkAudio:
EDIT: Nevermind
[Hero CDMA Android Development] rundmcarlson:
Mine has never worked like that.....
[Hero CDMA Android Development] duytrum444:
is the link die?? i can't go to link..........
[Hero CDMA Android Development] darchstar:
lol, sorry about the nightlies issues guys. I've been outta the loop so i haven't really had the time to focus on any android business. I talked to #teamdouche and had them fix it, so they should be back up and running tomorrow.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Vietl3oi4eva:
one trick i've found that works for the led light sticking is txting myself. once the led notification turns on for a txt message it turns off right when i check the notification
[Hero CDMA Android Development] xxproblemzxx:
Does swipe work with this. If it does can someone post a working apk. Cuz I can't find one
[Hero CDMA Android Development] reedsw:
Yes it does
[Hero CDMA Android Development] pwrmedia:
This ROM (and DD 2.7) is pure sex w/ the latest ADW update (1.0.1) in the Marketplace, as it now comes w/ themes (personal fave for this ROM is the "One" theme) and now supports endless app drops....

Have experienced no lag thus far w/ this update and the latest build of this ROM. Falling in love w/ the Hero all over again. :D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] zer0vette:
What's the process for accomplishing this?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] johndoehizzle:
awesome battery life with this rom.what camera app r yall using? im using cameta zoom fx but its a lil stuttery
[Hero CDMA Android Development] seanlindo06:
Guys, do I have to partition my SD card in any manner to use the built in Google apps2sd? And is JIT already enabled? It's strange seeing these mainstays of our community built in all of a sudden.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
what i did to get the built in a2sd to work was just wipe my ext from recovery. and enable jit from within the cyanogenmod settings
[Hero CDMA Android Development] asmith001:
I have this same issue. GPS takes a few minutes get acquire a lock, but then it drops every 2 minutes or so. GPS was working fine before wipe/flash on the same files two days ago.

btw... I wiped everything, and flashed the files from the op last night, without bfs kernel... running unofficial AmonRA 1.7 from dd 2.7 thread.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Cathbad09:
I was having horrible GPS issues with the 7/12 build. It would not follow me in Navigation, had to restart it every minute or so just to know where I was. Nandroid'd back to test4, (last time it worked well), and will try it again this afternoon
[Hero CDMA Android Development] asmith001:
I'm running test4 from the op...same issue.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] seanlindo06:
Only getting 4.2 MFLOPS with BFS, Class 6 SD, OC'd to 710, and JIT enabled. Suggestions?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] james33440:
Must depend on what apps you have installed. I had 710, jit, and no bfs and got constant 5.0s with 40 apps.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] seanlindo06:
I flashed the Google Apps and I've only downloaded Astro and I pushed SetCPU to my handset as well. JIT is enabled but do I need to do something else? Partition the card perhaps? I literally just took it out of the box and swapped it out before flashing this ROM.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] rockypr:
Anyone can post the link of the updates and fixes bugs links?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] delacr0ix:
adding my 2 cents....great rom and folks on IRC were helpful.

one thing regarding the LED sticking...i have had this happen to me twice now and pinpointed the "event" associated with it. only happens(at least for me) when my phone is charging and screen is asleep...unplug/wake-up simultaneously or perhaps answering a call while unplugging the handset from the charger the LED would stay on. i found that if i just plug it back in for a few seconds to register it as charging and then unplug while the phone's screen is not asleep and it will switch it off properly. hope that helps with the troubleshooting that little issue.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] daryelv:
It's always in the topic on the IRC channel...

Topic for #hero-cdma is: Welcome to #hero-cdma, home of the Sprint HTC Hero. | The froyo torrent is at http://hero-cdma-roms.bikcmp.com/froyo.torrent (if you don't have a torrent program, use http://www.bitlet.org/ | Other froyo links are at http://tinyurl.com/froyolinks | Updates, fixes, and useful links can be found at http://tinyurl.com/froyofixes

-Daryel
[Hero CDMA Android Development] wakland:
has anyone been able to get the Audible app to work with this rom?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] diesel joe:
Sorry I didn't get back last night. It still doesn't silence any notification ringtones with the side volume button. Maybe one of the devs could make that happen. That would be great.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] etnpnys:
Or for the time being, you could just set your notification ringtone to something that is really short...