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[Galaxy S I9000 General] herbert1:
I confirm, it's not fixed on mine at least...

I've tried after froyo update and several reboots. I was indoor, so the satellite signals are not excellent, but generally I can have a fix reasonably quickly on an HTC Magic or an Acer Liquid.

It took more than 4 minutes to have a fix (see attached pictures - the first one has been taken a few minutes after GPS Test start... ).

After the first start, it's better (but it's normal for a gps hot start).

A few hours after I've made a second try in my car. It took several minutes to obtain the first fix (but very unstable) and 10 minutes to have a stable fix. My old bluetooth gps (BT-338) had a fix several minutes before my Galaxy S (and the BT-338 is not A-GPS so it had to download the ephemerides) :mad:

When I had a fix, the indicated precision was 15 to 5 meters but the position was sometime more than 50 meters from the real one :mad:

So, it's a little better than before since it can now use satellite with lower signals, however a-gps seems not in use...

Since GPS test application (*#*#1472365#*#*) is not working anymore, it's difficult to have a better view or to customize the GPS config...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] peteyabe:
Hi there, I had a galaxy S and GPS was not useable for navigation (locked and then loosing lock even when in open air etc.) I tried different FW versions without a real solution for the crappy GPS. At least I contacted the (web)shop were I bought the SGS and they advised me to bring it to a repair shop. After waiting for 1,5 month I got the message it was not repaireable, and Samsung would credit the phone :confused:. After that (I got my money back :)) I decided to switch to the HTC Desire HD. They also reported some problems after introduction but within a week!! they had a fix for the problem. Samsung can "learn" a bit from HTC regarding customer satisfaction. I assume they have a hardware failure in their GPS circuitry which will cost them a lot of money if everybody decided to return their SGS............. Good luck everybody with samsung and their GPS issue
[Galaxy S I9000 General] DamianGto:
Well then you have make it clear.

I do understand that people has problem with the sgs and the gps.

But i don't understand why people with bad gps never want to listen to people that has a good one.

I don't matter how much prof we came up with, you always want more and you always question it.

But if someone do post a prof of bad gps you always take it for a fact.

Like the picture from Andrew that he has painted on.

I can also take one of that picture and write on it.

You want the truth, but you can't handle the truth......

Have fun..

Sent from GT-I9000 jpo. My own kernel for z4mod and with 341MB Ram
[Galaxy S I9000 General] zorxd:
Question: what's a "proof" of a working GPS? Even with my broken Galaxy S (and the other one, also broken, that I returned to the store) I can post screen shots of GPS test or my tracks working. That doesn't mean that it is always working.

How do I know that you have made extensive testings? Most people saying that their GPS works didn't make what I consider extensive testings. In fact most people probably don't use their GPS so they don't care if it is working or not.

I would be the first one happy to learn that some Galaxy S are working fine. If so I would get mine exchanged until I get a good one. I don't care if I need to go 10 times to the store for that. But the tech support told me that all phones had this problem so what should I do?

If you have a trick to make my Galaxy S work then go ahead, I would be more than happy to listen to you. But if some trick existed, don't you think that it would already be published everywhere on the web?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] andrewluecke:
Watch out zorxd, Damian will tell you that "you don't understand gps".

The fact is, Damian already said his Mytracks sucks. Unfortunately, rather than forming the most rational conclusion (that perhaps his GPS isn't of world class performance), he has decided to declare that "Mytracks and Google Maps is broken", and portrays it as fact. When asked to prove Mytracks is broken, he'll get his nappies in a twist, and proceed to point at SNR values and accuracy readings (he apparently believes that GPS status "shows" that his position is accurate)

Despite huge conversations having taken place in the past about the inaccuracy of the accuracy bubble at times, the fact that you cant monitor your actual position on GPS status and my having testing the accuracy bubble as incorrect, he'll stick to his "evidence".

Rather than use overwhelming evidence which would prove his case (recording a track with another application besides My Tracks), he then has a cry and says "nobody is listening", to distract others away from the request. I however plan to test a track in endomundo tomorrow walking to work (10-20mins), to help prove him wrong, since he is too lazy to find actual evidence, I'll have do the work for him..

I wish we didn't have to debate with him, but unfortunately, in 6 months time, I don't want him to collect a fan club of people who thinks he actually knows what he is talking about, simply because he implies he does. The problem is that arguing with Damian is like playing chess against a 3 year old... they make up rules on the way, and their modified rules makes them think they won, whilst the rest of us is pointing out the whole game they played made no logical sense.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] zorxd:
what is the second best GPS tracking application after my tracks by the way?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] pramathesh:
Someone please tell me the solution to this GPS problem..... I''m tired of it now..... =(
[Galaxy S I9000 General] DamianGto:
Andrew stop writing trash about me. You have already been told to stop with it.

The problem is that you don't want to listen on what im saying.

I did post i picture of the signal strength to show you some fact, but you still ignore every thing i say.

You still don't understand that i use my sgs and the gps in almost every day.

You say i change the rules. Well i try to get you to understand that all gps is not broken.

All program i tested beside goggle map works. So my conclusion is that's something wrong with that. Im not along with that either.

The problem you make here is that people with good gps stop writing.

Just for you and some other tell us that we don't know anything and we cant show any fact just for we don't show mytrack/ Google map.

All other thing we show and write you ignore.

I use that standalone mode and gps and sensor aid. I also put accuracy to 200.

That's works for me.

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[Galaxy S I9000 General] Rawat:
My GPS is brilliant(!)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] bilboa1:
here's what happens with mine, i put it on a flat area, no interferences etc..

gets 7 sats in view; after a while lock them (20-30 SNR..).. after a little more while lose them all .. then lock they again, etc.. SNR never goes under 20.

it's my major issue with the GPS, it doesnt keep the lock and i don't know why. Note that I rarely get above 30 SNR anywhere

most annoyingly despite the fact that the phone is flat and not moving it keeps reporting movement...

im watching it right now, 9 in view.. 7 in use.. and it loses some, get some back and again.. then sometimes loses them all and the speed indicates anything from 0 to 19km/h as if..

used trackedbooster also, it made no difference. its only useful to keep the gps on when the program for tracking doesnt do it for you
[Galaxy S I9000 General] betoNL:
What you mean "flat area"? Outdoors with no buildings around?

What is the purpose off the navigation? I mean wich program are you using?

Have you got any onboard car navigation installed or will you run ONLY Google Maps?

And Wich firmware do you have? A stable "lock" (at least for car navigation) is when your gps is using at least 4 sats. So if it was using 8 and then goes down 7 and then 4 it's still good enough....speed and accuracy will often fluctuate, even when you use a more capable chipset,,,

If you are willing to download the trial version of Navigon (or if you can get Motonav 480*800 or Sygic Mobile Maps 10) we can run some tests with some settings and with some assist of 3rd party gps apps.

And if afterwards your sgs is not performing at least as good as mine, you should try to replace it...

But if you want to run Google Maps only or "fitness navigation" or tracks or something like that, I cannot even try to help, cause it's not my cup of tea ...

Anyway, if you want some constructive help, I dont think you are on the right thread....

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[Galaxy S I9000 General] betoNL:
I do use gps (car navigation) on a daily basis. Mostly because I need, but many times for

comparison tests as a kind of hobby..

Evrything I learned about gps, it's from gps forums. First I had some problems with my first device, the Acer E310 and I found solutions in a Spanish forum. Then I started to help others with AcerE310 cau se that's the spirit of a forum

I took part in many other forums including the GpsPAssion forum where I learned how to unlock my ClarionMap with the miopocket solution and I started helping people also in Brazilian forums about how to configure and adapt miopocket for using in various (windows CE) devices.

I more than agree with you, anybody can post tracks and pics and talk the talk, that's why I decided to post videos.

As I said, As I use gps on a daily basis, but to make videos and post them, well, that requires some work, actually it's a drag and to be honest it's not worthwhile in a forum like this, I mean not

really gps specialized and with all kind of fanboy behaviour or with 2nd intentions behaviour.

I did start a gps "video thread" posting initially 2 videos and proposing to anyone to post more

videos (no pics or tracks) with bad or good gps performances, or with any kind of gps feedback but that thread was removed with no explanation...

If I say that the sgs and android work great with an external bluetooth device and show it ON VIDEO, some users here will say that's a ridicoulus solution (even if thousands of sgs and Nokia users go for this option -some users even have very compact bluetooth gps devices at the size of a key-holder or bracelets); is like saying: this "solution" or "option" is not for me, therefore it's not good to anybody , so stop talking about it.

Then I post another video (better than pics and tracks right?) where the sgs is working without the aid of an external device and then you hear theories like, the car navigation software is optimized etc etc. and that's why it works on the sgs cause "fitness" navigation will not work, and that programs like gps status or gps test are not accurate (?) and that we need

a application that would read raw data but such an application doesnt exist (?)

They do exist by the way...

and bla bla bla......bottom line is: onboard turn-by-turn voice guided car navigation works on my sgs and on many others so you are entitled to exchange or return your device if your

sgs doesnt perform like this as well....

What Google Maps and other OFFboard gps software concerns: Cannot say nothing about it,

I dont use them....

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[Galaxy S I9000 General] pramathesh:
Up until morning this was the same case with me but now all of a sudden my sgs has stopped looking for sats altogether =|
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Rawat:
By briliiant I meant doesn't connect to them at all.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] milsjg:
Still arguing about the GPS well read my comment here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=9127784#post9127784

This has become a hangup for a few people.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] maesebit:
Few people. Jezzz.... Only 28% on the poll report a good GPS, and that's "few" for some...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Y Ddraig Goch:
I noticed a lot of threads complaining about the GPS on the Galaxy S.

I use the GPS extensively for walking and have never had a problem - it locks quickly and is accurate.

I decided to perform a comparison between car navigation using my Tom Tom one and my Galaxy S. I have been doing this during my trips to work for the last 3 days. The result is that the Galaxy S is just as good as the Tom Tom and usually locks quicker. It has never 'jumped onto another road' as I have seen reported. It's completely fit for purpose.

I'm not suggesting that other people don't have issues but would suggest that in order to understand the problem properly people need to also post when the brought their phone (to get an indication of the h/w revision) and also which ROM they are using.

My Galaxy S is 4 weeks old and I'm running Doc's 7.2 JPO Froyo build and the SpeedMod kernel. The GPS works great!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ghosty_uk:
for those of you with GPS issues, i have just got off the phone to samsung, and there appears to be a fix, yes thats right a fix, the down side is you have to take it to an approved service center, of which my closest is a 100 odd mile round trip.

the customer service rep told me this is a definate cure, and should fix all gps related issues.

do i believe them ? ? ?

i could get it done at my local carfone warehouse but as there not an authorised centre i would kill my warrenty.

guess im calling O2, to see what they can do.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] andrewluecke:
Did they say it was Hardware?

I'll believe it when I see yours get fixed
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ghosty_uk:
no they refused to state what was actually causing the issue, but did go into detail that it was a software issue (not firm-ware, the actual root core software) so if those wondering if the froyo will fix it, i very much doubt it.

as for getting mine fixed im dropping my friend at work tomorrow and there is a carfone warehouse about 0.1 miles away from there so i shell pop in and see what they can do.

ill let you all know.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Y Ddraig Goch:
What is "root core software" ?? :-)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Bynar010:
Sounds bs to me, their way of not acknowledging it is hardware to avoid a product recall.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ghosty_uk:
from what i gather its the underlying software, like the bios of the phone it is not effected by the opperating system, or other software, it is before all that.

as i said im not sure its fixable either now.

but we will see, ill have a word with the local place to me tomorrow and see what happens
[Galaxy S I9000 General] foxbat121:
The GPS chip is programmable and this probably meant to update the firmware inside the GPS chip which is not the same as update the phone firmware.

I suspected Samsung has to go this route. We just have to wait and see if it is real this time.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Y Ddraig Goch:
Ok I can believe the chip has its own firmware but normally for chips like this the driver downloads it. As the driver is part of the kernel a kernel update could fix it.

Also why would some phones be affected and not others?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] darkoroje:
When I saw your post I phoned Samsung UK Support. Got put through to some Indian call centre, they claim they know nothing about any GPS problems. However they did say to take it to Carphone Warehouse for inspection.

I am very interested to find out what happens when you take it to the repair shop.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] madmackem:
watching this with even more interest now. I was about to phone samsung about the gps, will put it off till theres more news here.

Dont use the gps to get you there! you'll never find the place heheh
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Bynar010:
I've finally caved and submitted a support ticket to samsung about this. I waited for froyo, its failed to fix it, time for samsung to sort it the hard way. Will report back if I have any joy, lets see if its fixable or they give me a new phone.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] foxbat121:
Samsung can't even get its firmware update right without bricking phones. Hence it probably don't have confidence to push a firmware inside the GPS chip with normal update process.

My speculations are this is an analog signal issue. So, not all the phones get affected the same way. The firmware update will probably make the bad phone works better. Not really fix it, just optimize it.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] andrewluecke:
Umm, I think the GPS is average (or maybe even a bit below average), but there doesn't seem to have been many firmware updates breaking stuff, probably no more than other vendors. Most people here getting bricked phones seem to be using lag fixes, or unofficial firmwares.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Beards:
In my case Andrew it was Kies which 'bricked' it.

You couldn't blame the phone as at the time it was a stock ROM with no alterations (rooting or lagging).

I had done all the correct checks including ensuring I could access the 3-Button Recovery/Download Mode which I used, Factory Reset the phone first, used the supplied Samsung USB cable and a USB Port on my Laptop that was correctly rated.

In the end I had to use an unofficial firmware from samsungfirmware.com and Odin to get the phone working again.

If ever there was a problem it's that damn Kies.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] andrewluecke:
Kies is a problem, I'll certainly agree there.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] foxbat121:
No, Samsung is the problem :) Other brands don't have that much of bad luck of bricking the phones while updating firmware.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Beards:
I agree... Never had a bricked phone from a different manufacturer but Kies & Samsung are one and the same.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] betoNL:
Ok foxbat, you told me once "not to make assumptions" but let me try again, just this once:

Some users will say "I love my sgs" what I find quite funny, actually kind of ridiculous overreaction.

Other users will say "I hate Samsung" or "I hate my sgs" what is although, in my opinion also a too figurative reaction, but a little bit more accetable, because frustrations stimulate that kind of behaviour.

I also learned some new terms in this forum, like "trolling", I hope that's not the case here.

But hate is blind, and then you lose perspective.

When you brick a device, it means your device became unusable, regardless everything you try softwarewise. It is just dead. You will need hardware repair or a new device.

Crashing the phone is different than bricking it. When you crash the phone (or it gets stuck on reboot,eyc.), you can recover it with all kind of methods (3 button recovery for instance).

If it happens during proper use(upgrading via Kies), using oficial software (in this case, Kies) on an NOT rooted phone, Not modded in anyway, running the official firmware, that's really bad, you should spend your time trying to get your money back, instead of wasting time in threads like this one for instance.

I am not experienced with flashing (android devices), i spend most of the time with gps and sound improvements testing, but I read more than often on this forum, that once your sgs device got the 3 button recovery mode enabled, it is practically impossible to brick the phone.

So if Samsung "bricked" your phone during that oficial update as way you said,

just demand your money back and buy a HTC desire or something...

This thread is/became really pointless...is about time it gets closed.....

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[Galaxy S I9000 General] foxbat121:
betoNL,

I don't really get what your rambling is all about. The thread was going pretty well until you and a few others started spewing the non-sense here. In case you're blind, Breads actually posted above that he is using stock firmware and Kies to flash and it still 'bricked' his phone. Whether or not he recovered from it is not the point.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Beards:
I really fail to see the point in what you are trying to put forward betoNL.

True 'bricking' is when the phone has lost all form of input with the result only in returning the device for rectification but the term bricking in this type of explanation is meant as a loose form of expression which most in the forum relate to. :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] maesebit:
Any news from that people who were promised by Samsung that their GPS will get fixed?

Can we put our hopes on sending the phone to repair? Or will we be getting back the phone with broken GPS as always?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] snorkle:
I got a question, my GPS doesn't even lock..I tried the *#*#3214789650#*#* thing and changed some settings but my GPS wont pick up even a single satellite, idk is this different then what people are experiencing? Cause most people say it locks on the wrong place, etc..

Thanks
[Galaxy S I9000 General] SGSChris:
I don't think we will get very far if we all try to solve our problems individually with Samsung - there is a discussion thread about possible concerted action of this community to pressure Samsung in optimizing the existing phone platzform (i9000 and the global derivatives) rather than allocating all R&D resources into developing the next platform (so we can all buy a new one soon....)

have a look at it:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=841622
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ata1918:
My second experience with a Samsung phone having poor gps :@

This is a flagship phone, but still has Firmware problems, the ''LAG'' issue, and the hardware in the phone is mostly from Samsung , but they havent optimized the friggin software for it :@(Still, they get the chance to make a nexus phone!)

Anyways going back to the gps issue, using google navigation on JPM (im not sure was a while ago) it worked fine and accurate although correcting and getting a fix took a while,

Now lately on JPA it totally sucks!

If I do a cold GPS start, and then start google maps, and try to get my location, (I measured this) Its not fixing, and from wifi and a-GPS its even uncorrect to 200m!

But.....when I fire up GPS test mode(from samsung, you know those secret codes..)

Sometimes magically, it does fix, and BOOM, it finds my location up to 25 meters accurate...but then 1 minute later, it looses the fix and goes back to the issue as said above, 200 inaccurate...

Only tested this inside in front of the window, and in the garden, with JPA..

but still very dissapointed!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ga2arch:
i have fixed all my problems with gps flashing the JPP modem, it's awesome ...

my gps now is:

fast ( 4-7 secs to lock )

strong ( 9-10 sat. after 10 secs )

accurate ( 5 meters or less )

give it a try :D
[Galaxy S I9000 General] noahsark6454:
Where is the steps to do the flash?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] asgard90:
I have tried all possible fixes for the GPS. None worked. I found two, three, five satellites, but he never did lock. Do you think it would be a hardware problem?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] soulzero:
GPS is a pure joke, jumps from left to right.

Next phone will surely be a HTC, even if i have to sacrifice some hardware for it.

Shame cause everything else works flawlesly for me. Except for this FAIL ****ING GPS.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tom13mcpherson:
If it helps, changing the settings so that the sgs only uses gps and not 3g made a huge diference to my accuracy.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] SkinBobUk:
It is very strange how some work and some don't. My gps used to be unusable, but since the latest updates its been fine.

Could it be possible there are dry joints on the antenna and prolonged use of the phone or charging makes the connection good again?

Sent From My GalaxyS Iphone Killer