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[EVO 4G Android Development] freeza:
I only use ondemand for charging :D

i'll test the stocks and see. thanks :)

EDIT: you were absolutely right, about the governor. I switched it to performance and lowered the stdev to 3.77 then lower. Guess it doesn't matter now lol.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bigd2442:
From what Ive heard/been told, the battery charges up to 100%.. then stops charging and runs off battery life until 90% (as said above)

Once it hit 90% it will stop DIScharging and start REcharging again back to 100% before it goes back to battery life... and so on and so on...

This is why when you pull the phone off the charger after its been green for some time(for example, overnight) it reads 100% for a minute or 2 and then suddenly somwhere between 90 and 100.

If battery life STILL drops fast after that initial drop, then yes, theres something up (kernel or app issues etc..)

But that inital drop isnt because of the kernel, its because the battery wont constantly stay at 100% on the charger as a "saftey" feature.

If you want 100% you should disconnect as SOON as it turns green.

To get a little bonus "trickle charge" trype of top off, you can do the steps in condintioning a battery, keep pulling it off when it goes "full" and then plugging it back in after a minute.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bigd2442:
Newb question :)

So I have been reading a ton and understand most things about the general kernel stuff.. but can someone please answer this:

With the Nets "smartass" settings... is this just something that the kernel follows without any need to adjust?

When you have SetCPU.. there is the smartass option .. does that basically just tell setcpu to not change anything that the netarchy kernel is doing?

I ask because if this is the case, then setting SetCPU to "smartass" is essentially the same as uninstalling setcpu? no?

Just want to understnad if I am misssing anything.

Thanks in advance!

~Dan

pro newb

pro obsessive compulsive
[EVO 4G Android Development] Atticustrd:
Been running 4.2.1 these last two days. Been running great. Till tonight. My cpu went to 100% and wouldnt come down. Browsing online had a huge delay when scrolling. Had to restart phone. Not sure why this would happen. Also battery temp hit 107 when it was in my pocket. Which was strange no apps were running.
[EVO 4G Android Development] eniamg02:
Yes with the smartass versions no need to adjust anything its set to smartass.

Net, how much better would more aggressive undervolting battery be to less agressive? Was liking more agg. But had some problems seeing if less agg gets rid of that.

Tia
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
Um, setting the governor to smartass isnt necessarily the same as uninstalling setcpu, unless you dont plan on using setcpu anymore. But this smartass governor is supposed to underclock while the phone is idle, which would get rid of the need for profiles, so unless you plan on overclocking the phone, then you wont need setcpu anymore..so you can just set the governor to smartass and uninstall setcpu.
[EVO 4G Android Development] sling:
Ouch...........
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
That is odd i tell ya. One thing I find so weird about the stock batteries is how they overheat for no reason, im using a 1800mah battery I got from ebay and that thing never goes above 75...even when its in my pocket and im walking to my bus stop in this hot ass texas weather, it stays at 75 degrees...something is up with them htc batteries.
[EVO 4G Android Development] sling:
Well his didnt overheat for no reason thats f,sure

Stuck at 100cpu for a long period will turn battery into toast.
[EVO 4G Android Development] TorxT3D:
okay, thanks guys!

this phone just gets more and more complicated.. too many kernels, too many tweaks, too many options, too many roms... lol.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
Im on 4.2.1 cfs..awake time is 3 hours and 52 mins and my up time is 4 hours and 28 mins. My battery percentage is at 76%...idk how that happened, never seen that kind of life before.

Edit: just checked my setCPU set up...underclocked from 1ghz to 800mhz..
[EVO 4G Android Development] Tiffany84:
Just curious if anyone has tried any of these kernels with miui and if so which ones and also how did they perform?
[EVO 4G Android Development] xHausx:
The stock battery actually has a temperature sensor in it, the ebay batteries dont. Thing is the Evo refuses to work if it doesn't know the batteries temperature so they install a fake sensor and trick the evo into thinking it has one.
[EVO 4G Android Development] vincey2kr1:
I'd like to make a request, been playing with the latest STock HTC #10 kernel and it actually really has some great battery life!! If I knew how , I would but NEt could you work your magic and give us a STock HTC #10 with Just some Aggressive Undervolt love please!?! Theres just so many variables with kernels mixing it up with different roms and I know were the stock kernel stands.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mrwilly:
i'm using the 1800mah battery and it still shows the temp of the battery just like the stock one, i can see different temps for the battery.

on another note, i'm using the 4.2.1 cfs havs smartass more agressive kernel with the RefinedEVO Rom and the battery life has been excellent. i tried myn's 2.2 rls3 with the same kernel and it definitely drains the battery faster.
[EVO 4G Android Development] parousia15:
Isn't HTC supposed to release the source code shortly after distribution if not before distribution?

I don't think they have released the code for both the 3.29 and 3.30 builds.
[EVO 4G Android Development] eniamg02:
Net has said he will when the source is released (they have not yet been released by htc) isnt there an amount of time til they have to release it? Anyone know how long that is?
[EVO 4G Android Development] MJStephens:
One weird issue I've had with CFS-Smartass-More-HAVS is that I notice my screen does not shut off on its own. It will dim but never actually shut off. I can shut it off manually, with the power button, which is what I normally do anyways. A reboot fixes the problem for about a day. I've been running the kernel for a few days now and it seems fairly solid. I had HUGE battery drain the first night while I was sleeping but after that, I usually only lose 3% or so in 8 hours while I'm sleeping. Battery seems to be average or slightly above average when actually using the phone. I'm running EViO 1.5 which is a 3.30 build.
[EVO 4G Android Development] sling:
Universal will do you right.
[EVO 4G Android Development] sling:
+1

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[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
how are y'all measuring the voltage?
[EVO 4G Android Development] freeza:
CurrentWidget
[EVO 4G Android Development] brol1k:
I'm on calk 1.5 with 70 apps installed, I'm using 4.2.1 cfs more smartass havs and my battery life is amazing, Yea there is screen tearing in landscape but who cares this Rom is sweet. However would love if u can tweak the sound a bit more and make it slightly higher :) awesome work as always net.

Tapatalk'd on Evo
[EVO 4G Android Development] rfeagan:
Using 4.2.1 cfs smartass oc to 1228, anyone else having gps issue? Seems there is slightly less accuracy on this kernel than 4.2? Could kernel effect gps accuracy?
[EVO 4G Android Development] bigd2442:
Thanks so much! :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] sling:
No gps issue here.

Read was taken in home by window
[EVO 4G Android Development] xHausx:
Thirty days, HTC likes to wait till the last moment to release them.
[EVO 4G Android Development] godfirst:
What happened to the 4.2bfs kernels that was in the op before 4.2.1. I think 4.2 got better battery life.
[EVO 4G Android Development] achllles:
The bfs kernel I used to use aren't conserving battery life like it used to. I don't think I run any crappy app that runs in back ground. I don't even use task killer stuff, and the phone idle mA according to the currentwidget was pretty random. It was rarely less than 50mA, and was draining the battery pretty quick, so I just went and forced the issue with the setcpu profile. Atleast it sleeps like it used to for now. (24-30mA after screen turns off, and usually stays there)

On the side note, stock kernel was showing some great signs at one point, going into sleep mode, and used only 25mA with in a minute after screen was off with no mods, but I couldn't get it to happen again.

I also noticed that some kernel's only allows the lowest frequency to be at 245 instead of 128. Is that the cfs and bfs difference?

Thanks.
[EVO 4G Android Development] sling:
little over 3 days of testing Ive found that when device is in sleep battery life is amazing 3% 8hr !!

The awake time is another story, on day 1 it was great , day 2 it started slipping and today no were near as good compared to day 1 use.

I'm looking forward to next 4.2 build hopefully awake drain issue can be fixed fast.

If it can be fixed HTC needs to make Nets 4.2 kernel their official stock kernel

& pay up with lots of beer $$
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
I've noticed something like that too...thought it was just me though.
[EVO 4G Android Development] wmblalock:
Which of Netarchy's Kernels limit the camera to 3MP instead of 8MP?

I just installed the "netarchy-toastmod-4.2.1-cfs-bfq-havs-more-smartass-universal" Kernel and am curious if my camera is operating normally at 8MP or if its limited to 3MP.. anyone know? How can I tell?

- Mike
[EVO 4G Android Development] wuclan48:
Pretty sure that became a non-issue several kernels ago.
[EVO 4G Android Development] eniamg02:
None of the kernels limit the cam...that was solved ages ago, open cam settings/resolution you will see 8 mp
[EVO 4G Android Development] futuristicstyles:
4.2 Bfs more aggressive smartass with myns rls3
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
I just went to the newest stock htc kernel for shiggles and found out that it really aint that bad...If only my phone had that kernel when I got it...
[EVO 4G Android Development] achllles:
Exactly why I have net's and stock on my sig x)

Anyways, give setcpu with screen off settings a try. Makes it even better it seems.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
setcpu with the stock kernel? I can do that?! I thought someone said that you couldnt do that...

holy crap! i can do it! and i just remembered, people said you cant overclock with the stock..
[EVO 4G Android Development] jhoffy22:
You have to disable perflock
[EVO 4G Android Development] achllles:
You can't OC it, but I don't see why you can't put a screen off profile on it.

I may be wrong though. I think I was able to when I was on stock #10.

Just wish lowest freq is 128 there too.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
Yeah, you're right. I put a profile on it. thanks :D My phone was doing pretty good without it though. 4 hours up time, 2 hours awake time and I only lost 31%. I lost like 80% in 4 hours when i first got my phone.

Edit: I find it odd that the moment I use setCPU to set a screen off profile is the moment i just lose 3% battery in 4-5 minutes while my phone is off for no reason...That didnt happen at all a while ago with this kernel, when my screen was off, I didnt lose anything.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cosine83:
@netarchy

Would you be able to make a tweak for car dock mode to not lower the volume of the headset-out by 10dB? From the research I've done on it, it does this because it will try to pair with a bluetooth device automatically in car mode whether there's one set or even if bluetooth is on or not. It's kind of annoying to have a 10dB reduction in volume compared to other audio sources while in my car. It was somewhere in the Nexus One forum and I think it has to do with libaudiosources.so.

I read it could also be adjusted with DSP Manager but there's nothing that I can see to adjust the output volume.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Richkid:
@ Netarchy:

Is it possible for you to open up the frequency table on Stock Kernel HTC #10 to allow overclocking and nothing else? To be honest, this by far has been the most stable, reliable, and performance worthy kernel (in my opinion) to date. I would be happy to donate if you can make this possible...

Please advise.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mstgkillr:
I recently tried currentwidget to montior my phones current use while the screen is off. I have 4.2.1 CFS more aggressive installed but I still get nothing less than 100 ma, and it's bounces around much higher than that. What do I need to do to get in down to the 50's.
[EVO 4G Android Development] PrFectOne:
I just installed this same kernel after a universal 4.1.9.1 bfs and can't get Linpack above 23 with the Smartass governor set. Switching to OnDemand and the Linpacks are up into the 38's. Quadrant seems reasonable with either gov.

Anyone else seeing this? Checked for the perflock on boot and mine is not checked.

Curious.
[EVO 4G Android Development] netarchy:
I can't do anything to the stock htc kernels, they're already compiled. HTC hasn't released the updated sources for those builds to date either, which is rather annoying ;D
[EVO 4G Android Development] macmill:
Running Fresh 3.4 and Net 4.2 cfs-more-smartass... Great combo, kudos to Net

I am Overclocking through setcpu and battery life was great under smartass, I was

not happy with the sleepness that I was getting though, so I went ahead and turned

"screen off" and set 245minmax and a percent would drop every 3 hours which was great in my book.

I am getting better results this way, envious of the people that do not have to do this but you got to do

what you got to do! THANKS NET, again.
[EVO 4G Android Development] brol1k:
Any chance a 4.2.2 will drop soon?

Tapatalk'd on Evo
[EVO 4G Android Development] :
Yes a 4.2.2 that isnt undervolted too much so us Evo owners with the random reboot issues can enjoy it :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] sling:
I upgraded to Calks build 1.5.1 & using 4.2 cfs more aggressive.

Roughly 16 Hr bed time sleep.

Moderate use - sent & received emails , 20 min in calls , 1hr web browsing , 1.5hr slacker radio , 1hr Xiialive radio , a couple min wifi tether and just waking up device to play in menus flipping around sense , checking out monitor, opening Weatherbug elite checking out forecast, some speed test , screen shots , app store etc...The phone geek stuff cant put your EVO down lol

Service - 3G

Background noise - Live profile active , HTC weather widget gps update 3 hr setting.

Im very pleased with results
[EVO 4G Android Development] INebilim:
What's the general consensus cfs or bfs??

Sent from my Snappy EVO
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
bfs seemed to be smoother for me and slept better than cfs. But cfs seemed to give me better battery with the screen on. I'd go bfs.
[EVO 4G Android Development] diomark:
I've been struggling to figure out a way to run MY startup script in this kernel (421 bfs). It's not running anything in /etc/init.d - and there isn't an easy way to edit the /init.rc file:(

Can someone point me in the right direction as to how to run a script on startup? Specifically, I'm trying to change /cache permissions to 771 (experimenting moving my contacts data there - it's taking ~50mb's.. but can't do it since the contacts app can't see that directory.. and system directory is read-only..)

Thanks,

-mark
[EVO 4G Android Development] fixxxer2008:
i tired to use this kernel with my 004 hardware evo and my screen was all screwed up, like flashing funny with lines. same with the king kernel, i had to use a stock kernel for now. is this a known bug?
[EVO 4G Android Development] eniamg02:
Anyones phone getting hotter than usual on 4.2.1?
[EVO 4G Android Development] achllles:
If you are having any problem with beta 4.21's Net asked to specify on page one.

Beta Testing Builds: 4.2.1

Note: If you use setcpu, make sure it isn't overriding the default governor and setting it to something other than smartass

(Unless of course you are intentionally changing the governor to something else).

Also you should consider disabling setcpu profiles, as they are hopefully unnecessary

When making a post about any issues concerning beta builds, please include ALL of the

following information if possible:

1. Which kernel build(s) (ie; bfs/cfs havs/nohavs etc) are you using with the issue?

2. What Rom are you using?

3. If known, what OTA base is your rom using (ie; is it based on 3.29 or 3.30)?

4. Does the issue persist if you go back to a stable kernel build?

5. The issue being experienced (obviously ;D)
[EVO 4G Android Development] juancaperez2000:
+100

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[EVO 4G Android Development] eniamg02:
Sorry about that.

Kernel: I've tried 4.2.1 cfs more,less,no havs.bfs more.

Rom: calks v1.5 base 3.30

I've went back to 4.1.9.1 more universal and so far so good.

Problem was I boot up fine no problems,but after using it for a while it starts to lag it skips a bit while scrolling through homescreens.I had no idea why it would be doing this since I tried no havs,less,set cpu, and no setcpu.After flashing back to stable 4.1.9.1 I noticed phone doesn't get as hot as 4.2.1 so I'm led to believe that the culprit for lag is the overheating. I seen my phone get to 40° celsius, on stable it hasn't gone over 36.5.

Not sure what type of panel I have.

Thanks, would heat causing lag even be possible?
[EVO 4G Android Development] achllles:
How long did you turn the kernel for? The phone does usually get hot whenever you flash rom or kernel. You certainly have to give some time for kernels to settle since the cpu will throttle and drain battery after flashing of rom/kernels. If the problem persists, try different versions.
[EVO 4G Android Development] eniamg02:
When first noticed it was day after I flashed the kernel, started noticing it happened when phone got hot and only way to solve was reset phone.I've been on 4.1.9.1 since about 5pm today and all is well no lag.liked that smartass governor though :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] Estimated Prophet:
I'm using the 4.2.1 cfs more aggressive kernel with Fresh 3.4.0.1, which is 3.30 based, and I've noticed that the smartass governor won't drop the frequency below 245MHz. My min freq is set to 128 and even with the screen off it won't drop down that low. I'm getting better battery life with a setcpu profile enabled that changes the governor and sets max/min freq to 245/128 when the screen is off.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xhazyx:
Usually it helps to reboot, wipe chache and dalvik, and reboot again a couple of times... i guess it helps the new kernel settle in, but i has helped on my phone;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] wsschappell:
I noticed the exact same thing on Fresh 3.4.0.1 with smartass so it's not just you :).
[EVO 4G Android Development] shad0w77:
i see what u guys are saying... but i dont think this kernel has underclocking available. i do see that the 128 freq is available, but i dont think it should be. 245 is the min freq.

dont know if this is a bug w/ setcpu or the way the kernel is setup... netarchy can better answer that part....

also, w/ the smartass governer, u shouldn't use profiles in setcpu.. i hear they cause more problems than anything and the smartass governer should take care of regulating the freqs properly for u by default.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Estimated Prophet:
It's definitely the smartass governor. If I switch to a different governor it will drop down to 128MHz. I realize that profiles aren't recommended with smartass, but that's mainly because they, theoretically, shouldn't be needed. In reality, since smartass won't go down to 128MHz, having a screen off profile increases battery life.
[EVO 4G Android Development] achllles:
You CAN set profiles such as screen off to 128/128, but if you do this, it will interfere with steaming music and similar apps.

By default, the battery consumption @ high battery charge was about 50-90 after screen was turned off, but by setting "screen off profile" with 245/128, the consumption went down to 25-50mA when the screen was off. The question is if it really helps in real world usage, and I'm not too sure on it. I only chose to use the profile after my phone refused to goto sleep when screen was turned off, and it kinda worked for me.

My suggestion is let the kernel do the work, and use setcpu as a last resort.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Estimated Prophet:
If you set the screen off profile to 245/128 ondemand (or even conservative) it shouldn't interfere with pandora streaming and when you're not streaming it'll actually go down to 128 and save you battery life. My phone definitely has more battery at the end of the day with that screen off profile and I've had no problem streaming pandora, wifi tethering, receiving calls or anything else.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Atticustrd:
Both cfs 4.2.1 less and more have made my cpu reach 100%. Using avav9 rom. I'm not a heavy user either.
[EVO 4G Android Development] freeza:
I've been using the screen off profile 245/128/conservative since I the 2.1 days and it has worked without a hitch ever since.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
probably your phone can handle it, mine too, but YMMV i guess with these UC/OC
[EVO 4G Android Development] achllles:
Been using HTC stock #17 since yesterday, and it's scary how similar Net's 4.21 bfs havs and stock 17 runs. It seems like HTC finally woke up and tried Netarchy's kernels :D.

Only difference I noticed between the two are the q-score. (Net's higher)

12h 37m since unplugged(fully charged)

41 minutes of display time

62% remaining.

It seems like Both kernels in my sig conserves battery VERY well when screen is off, usually consuming around 25-30mA, but consumption is more than HTC stock 10 when it's used with screen is on.

It seems like to me that ttock 10 does not conserve well as both kernels I have in my sig (usually 50-90mA screen off, depending on battery level), while it uses slightly less power when it's used with screen is on.

Either way I just thought I'd mention how similar the new HTC kernel is with Netarchy's x).
[EVO 4G Android Development] SpaceMonky:
1. Which kernel build(s) (ie; bfs/cfs havs/nohavs etc) are you using with the issue?

4.2.1 BFS More

4.2.1 BFS Less

4.2.1 CFS More

4.2.1 CFS Less

4.1.9.1 CFS More

2. What Rom are you using?

Myn's Warm 2.2 RLS3

3. If known, what OTA base is your rom using (ie; is it based on 3.29 or 3.30)?

3.30

4. Does the issue persist if you go back to a stable kernel build?

No. 4.1.9.1 NoHAVS and Less stills work which is what i was using fine back on Myn's RLS2

5. The issue being experienced (obviously ;D)

random reboot which then turns into a full lock up when the phone fully loads. after a few minutes it will reboot again and start the cycle all over again.

i'm not using setcpu at all and my phone is Rev 003.

if you need anymore info just let me know.
[EVO 4G Android Development] lamboh:
fresh 3.4.0.1 installed netarchys 4.2.1 cfs aggressive kernel and setcpu to min 245/ max 845. Smart ass and screen off profile min 145/max 245 on demand...phones snappy amd so far 6+hrs off charger and im at 69 % with moderate to heavy usage. Youtibe,google searches, thurs night football highlights,flashlight for about 10 min and took a few vids textin all night...and 2 3ish min phone calls..and streamin xiia internet radio a good bit also... 6 hs 7 min iuptime and 1 hr 51min awake....

All on wifi

Pretty good if u ask me...

streamed xiia lite all night and here my SC's

pics of when i woke

probably would have hit 14+ hrs no problem

look at the up and awake times...pretty good

next day was alot better...less usuagle(moderate) and here's my sc's

even tho less usuage, i thinkbatt is lalot better after just 1 day ..

had the problem with xiia cutting on from setcpu 's profile i set to min 145 max 245 screen off...smartass..so i switched to on demand no problems now.