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[EVO 4G General] EVO'D_OUT:
I wanted to love the Evo, the specs are awesome, the screen is huge, web browsing is blazing fast, but the user experience just leaves something to be desired IMO. I hope these issues are resolved with future updates and/or Froyo and I may be back!

The main cuplits in my opinion: Touch screen lag, the unresponsive screen, the lack of 4G in my area (and still have to pay the $10 premium), the FPS cap issue, the jittery and stuttering pinch to zoom in browser. Hacking/rooting the phone is WAY too complicated and risky compared to the iphone jailbreaking

Minor gripes but still annoying: the lack of 'next' and 'previous' buttons in browser for filling in fields, landscape keyboard has no 'send' button in SMS app, landscape keyboard mode in general takes up the whole screen so you cant see where your typing without hitting back button, no way to turn off the 'text reflo' feature in brower...sometimes its more of a hassle than a benefit.

I have a few days left in the 30-day trial and have made the descision to take it back. If these issues are resolved, in which I hope the official Froyo will address these issues I will happily ditch the iphone and jump back on the andriod bandwagon.
[EVO 4G General] OgremustCrush:
Do it then, not like it's a life changing decision. If you come back, the forum is still here.
[EVO 4G General] flexgrip:
Ok..........
[EVO 4G General] kwajr:
Could care less but the enter button on in works as send also you don't hit the back button u hit the keyboard button to hide the kb

Sent from my Evo on on the Now network from Sprint

oh and duck Apple
[EVO 4G General] engagedtosmile:
Enjoy ATT.
[EVO 4G General] coolguy949:
Good luck.

A lot of people are going to post some hater remarks because you're going to the iPhone, but objectively I actually do understand where you are coming from. It's pretty angering to think that HTC delivered a gimped phone with major quality issues marketed as the best phone ever (and it could have been!).

Yes, most of this can be fixed via the community (thank God for that!) but it's still frustrating that it is happening. Hacking the phone to where HTC should have built it as voids the warranty and any kind of support. I think that's unacceptable. We waited months and stared at countless blogs reviewing early releases just salivating over the phone. Once it got here it was quite an awakening for some people. Thankfully because of XDA, we can say screw HTC and "fix it" ourselves.

A lot of your gripes are more with the Android OS, which I think is wonderful but understandably is not everyone's cup of tea.
[EVO 4G General] Smac61:
I just played with a friends Iphone 4 and I have to say its a nice appliance. I can definitely see the draw.

If your already questioning your Evo decision, then do it.

Having said that, its not for me. Doesn't satisfy my inner geek...
[EVO 4G General] prestonr83:
and the point of this post was.......?
[EVO 4G General] b1indsided:
i mean if u wanna have a phone that u can only hold in ur right hand and pay more munny and have data limits..go ahead but dont post it on here like the iphone aint got probs either..every phone is gonna have its probs especially when they 1st come out
[EVO 4G General] coolguy949:
I agree completely. It's a nice phone but it doesn't have enough for my inner geek. Feels too dumbed down. Even jailbroken.
[EVO 4G General] dwertz:
Haha you might want to wait until after they do the antenna recall.

What I mean is ALL phones with how they push them out nowadays will have issues.
[EVO 4G General] Aridon:
Rooting is anything but difficult but if you can't do it then perhaps the Iphone is a good choice for you.
[EVO 4G General] topdnbass:
Fully agree with aridon..

If you aren't into getting the most you can out of your phone get a damn iphone!

I prefer choice, and i'm not a follower.. so android is for me.

That said most of your problems will be fixed with froyo and the rest (UI and aesthetics) will be fixed with gingerbread.

By the end of this year I fully expect these phones to rock :D
[EVO 4G General] Sporkman:
what a totally useless post this is nothing but
[EVO 4G General] marctronixx:
warning: useless post

LOL EVO'D_OUT is the username? lol s/he was a prophet.. the OP knew when s/he signed up that s/he would eventually return the evo! wow perhaps the OP can predict other things that will happen in the future... ;)
[EVO 4G General] elegantai:
Lol. I respect your opinion, although I'm not really sure the point of letting a bunch of evo loving people know. I for one am keeping my evo, well... because its the most bad ass phone I have ever had. Lol tootles.
[EVO 4G General] BrianDigital:
ouch now u gotta get att's new data plans yikes
[EVO 4G General] ajftl:
Nop way I go back to iphone..and I had all off them..android rules..and yes I'm fully rooted...lol .
[EVO 4G General] Sovs:
Rooting is super easy if you can just follow the instructions.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
Having owned the 3g and 3gs and now the evo... along with a ton of other htc's I can tell you the number one reason people dont stick with these phones after the switch... too complex. No thing to me as i've been tinkering and flashing since the vogue but some folks just like the empty interface/pages of apps because its simple.
[EVO 4G General] jvs60:
See ya! Don't let the door hit you in the ass
[EVO 4G General] chrisctb:
Hurrr hurrr kiss jobbs **** for us! Lol
[EVO 4G General] masbirdies:
Too fking much...another fanboy that thinks someone give a crap.

Well then buh-bye.....and don't let the door hit ya in the ........as you leave!

The fanboyz community must have every sappy guy in the world there. No wonder they need a mindless phone.

The EVO jams compared to the iPhone...if you can see that, again...buh-bye!

Oh and PS....you must have gotten a ****ty build cause my phone doesn't do any of that stock and with ATT, you are capping your arse on the data for more $
[EVO 4G General] mrmomoman:
Why oh why would you think that someone would care that you want to move back to another phone? Are you seeking attention? Well there you have it - your 15 seconds of fame.

On your way out make sure you wear rubber gloves so that you don't cause any reception issues, learn to squint and train your RETINA to read smaller but clearer fonts from 12 inches away and don't come back too often visiting this forum from your IPHONE. Make sure you surf from your home computer. Don't want to waste those 200Mb's that AT&T says fits 96% of its users.

FYI - next time don't take other people's review of the EVO and make them yours.

See ya.. and good luck.
[EVO 4G General] elegantai:
^^^^^^^^Wow if a thread could ever be closed after any post, well by golly that should be it!
[EVO 4G General] k2snowboards88:
There certainly are a lot of defensive people on this forum. Its too bad the phone isn't working out for you. Perhaps you could try a different android phone before going back to the iphone?
[EVO 4G General] JordanClay2003:
The only thing I want from the iphone put on the EVO is how snappy the OS is. Like a constant 60fps. If the EVO could have that I would love it even more. Everything else is just awesome on the EVO....
[EVO 4G General] daveop:
This community is even more immature and blind than the iPhone one. I tried this phone for a month, absolutely love Android, but also went back to my iP4. People on here are so insulting, so close minded, and so rash that they can't even wish someone well as they move onto something else. Luckily you guys have developers that are amazing, and stay out of the **** slinging contest you all seem to be so keen on.
[EVO 4G General] k2snowboards88:
I agree. This thread puts iphone fanboys and HTC fanboys on the same level.
[EVO 4G General] xweaponx:
The OP's post seems suspicious:

1. Username EVO'D out

2. Less than (15) posts

3. Mentions iPhone (and its inherent carrier's service) as a "comparable" alternative to switch back to till the EVO is "fixed"

Just remember these little facts:

Apple makes only one phone (relative same design and extraordinary simpleton OS) every (2) years. HTC makes about (5-10) a year and with subsequent improvements over the next.

Apple sources just about everything in-house (they don't want no-one peeking) whereas a typical HTC Android device is a mosaic of several affiliates with a common goal: to create a device and OS platform with enriched user-experience, limitless multimedia and tasking abilities and connection to everyone through any social portal. Steve Jobs say's you will take what he gives you.

Apple may have sold 1.6 million iPhone 4's pre-orders in (3) days. Sprint sold 350,000+ EVO's in (3) days... (plus it's still out of stock) and it is only ONE of HTC's models this year. Add 'em up. Apple (Mr. Jobs) is concerned...

Apple will raid your domicile/residence and confiscate any material (plus some) relating to their testing devices. (of course anyone can make a mistake and leave a experimental device on a bar stool on their birthday, right?)

Apple puts out updates to their OS every (1-2) years. Android updates come out every 6 months or so plus the forum support is superb.

Apple OS is limited. (Steve Jobs will be VERY upset with you if you jail break it)

Android has

unlimited

potential. I would try to explain... however just Google "OHA"

With the iPhone 4, you will need to enroll in the Steve Jobs "Your holding your iPhone 4 wrong" training seminar for better reception.

I could go on and on...

P.S. Don't forget that lovely $325.00 ETF fee you will be bound to if you go back to AT&T. Afterall, they only upped it from $175.00 to $325.00 and added data tiering when news of the EVO was unveiled... ;)
[EVO 4G General] bluehaze:
It's just a phone, if you prefer iPhone then that's what you should own. I love my EVO and feel it is irreplaceable but can understand where your coming from, there is just so much to do that Android can become overwhelming coming from something as limited as an iPhone. It's definitely not everyones cup of tea.

Best of luck to ya!
[EVO 4G General] stress1ner:
I totally agree. I don't see why people cant just not comment or offer alternative solutions to the issues he is having instead of calling him a fan boy. did he not try the phone out? if he doesn't like it he just doesn't like.

i have also had i phones and the biggest reason i choose android is because of live widgets and true multitasking and i am with sprint because of the price plan.
[EVO 4G General] k2snowboards88:
1. Apple makes a phone EVERY year. HTC making lots of phones a year does not excuse it from low quality. If they can't achieve high quality and make 5-10 phones a year, then they should make less phones.

2. its the final product that counts, not how its made. I agree with your last point of how you just have to take what apple makes or not use apple.

3. Twist those numbers however you want. Apple is doing damn well with the iphone and kicking the evos butt in sales. Of course sales shouldn't matter to anyone who isn't making money off of them.

4. If you buy a stolen product and then brag about it on the internet, expect the COPS (not apple) to raid your home.

5. Apple updates their OS every year. Frequent OS updates aren't anything to be proud of. They have downsides like creating incompatibilities and are a hassle.

6 & 7. Both os's are limited.The iphone is somewhat more limited than android, but how many of you have unrooted phones?

8. Apple did drop the ball with that antenna.

All that said, I do like the android os better than IOS. I just don't understand why people can't be objective. Why are so many people such fanboys of apple, android and HTC? Why not be honest with yourself about the strengths and weaknesses of any given product?
[EVO 4G General] familyguy26:
I don't get flaming the original poster because of his opinion. Many of you claim not to care but care enough to post you don't care. These are just phones.
[EVO 4G General] sfox8:
Not that I condone the flaming of the OP or any of the Apple fans here, but come on now... We can't all be this dense. The OP clearly made this thread in attempt to troll. His NAME is "EVO'd out". That alone should give it away, coupled with the fact that he is needlessly declaring to the whole EVO forum that he's tired of his EVO and wants an iPhone 4. If he wasn't expecting to get negative responses then he's just naive.

Personally, I wish you luck with whatever phone you buy but you should keep in mind that NO phone is going to be perfect. The iPhone 4 has its share of issues and Apple is hardly any better at solving these than HTC has been. Apple gives BS answers (you're holding your phone wrong. get a case!) just as HTC does (charge your phone while on. then charge while off. then spin it on one finger while bouncing on your left foot and singing the national anthem to improve battery life!)

The Droid X will have problems and so will the Epic 4G and every Galaxy S phone, I assure you that. If the iPhone really suits your needs better, then more power to you but don't come into a forum full of dedicated developers just to flaunt about your fancy, cool new iPhone because quite frankly, nobody is going to give you any sympathy. Likewise, no Android fan should go into an Apple forum with a name like "Boring iPhone" talking about how they're going to return their iPhone for a nice, fun, customizable EVO. You wouldn't get any sympathy there either.

So while I don't condone the hostility, I also do not feel sorry for the OP. He was provoking and everyone should have expected this kind of response.
[EVO 4G General] k2snowboards88:
I don't think he was provoking. He certainly wasn't uncivil (unlike many of the subsequent posters). He probably just wanted a reasonable conversation about what people thought of his complaints of the android platform. It shouldn't be hard for a mature group of people to do that.

edit: And "he/she should have expected it" should not ever be an excuse for anything, ever.
[EVO 4G General] sfox8:
He wasn't provoking by joining the forum with a name like "EVO'd Out" to ultimately post about how he was tired of his EVO and was getting an iPhone? If he really wanted to have a civil conversation then why use such a trolling name? He knew he was getting rid of his EVO before he even joined.

Seriously, I don't have a problem with someone getting a different phone. The EVO is not for everyone, clearly, and another platform or phone suits different needs. Heck, the Droid X looks awesome, but this just seems a bit shady to me.

He did post in a mature manner, unlike other trolls, which is cool. All I'm saying is though I don't CONDONE the flaming, I can understand why he's getting flames (his name, the fact that he needs to tell everyone he wants an iphone instead of just getting it, the lack of responses to any of the replies - typical of trolls). I don't feel any sympathy because these are things that one would avoid doing if they really wanted to have an intelligent and mature conversation about the faults of any device.

Edit: I never called it an excuse. Look, I can see both sides but if this guy really was just innocently trying to have a mature, intelligent conversation about the EVO's faults, then why not try to show that you really do have some interest in the Android platform by using a real name? People here can be mature when approached in a completely mature way. My main issue is that he decided to use a flamebait name to post about how he's going to get an iPhone (Android's main rival) and return his EVO. The post sounded innocent enough and I already admitted that. But I can still see where the hostility is coming from. Considering the circumstances of his post, it's to be expected. Can you in all honesty tell me that you did not click on this thread expecting for it to be riddled with negative responses and flames, especially considering the title? I feel no animosity towards him. I do hope he finds a phone that works for him.
[EVO 4G General] k2snowboards88:
The only immature people in this thread were flaming the op. The op's name could also mean that he bought the evo4g, and was disappointed in it. He joined this forum looking for help/input/perspective, and it didn't work out so he posted this thread as a last source of input/perspective and enough people were immature to ruin that.

And even if he was trolling, people still acted much less mature than the troll.
[EVO 4G General] dj2000lbs:
one thing that I hate about HTC evo is that SD error thing I have 1.32.651.6 with Kernel version root 2.6.29a2443432 And anyways I go to show people at my work why this phone rocks and show them pictures I took on the 4th and i'm like ohh wait let me reset my phone or even on the second shot it messes up its really frustrating.
[EVO 4G General] sfox8:
Okay I'm done with this, I'm not going to argue about something this trivial. I've already stated my point multiple times. I don't care whether he was trolling or not. I'm not surprised by the flames. I don't think they were RIGHT to flame but the OP's intent seems a bit shady in MY opinion.

To the OP: Either way, I really do hope you find a phone that suits you. Again, just keep in mind that you won't find a perfect phone anywhere and at some point you will just have to settle for what works for you. I'm sorry your experience with Android was not what you were expecting. Maybe you will enjoy one of the many other Android devices out there? If not then enjoy your iPhone and I hope it's everything you were hoping for.
[EVO 4G General] Albaholic:
this thread is both hilarious and sad.
[EVO 4G General] cabbieBot:
trolling 101. you completely bit on it.
[EVO 4G General] Sporkman:
Did you just go there with the" fixed" thing ?

sent with my evo from a secret place
[EVO 4G General] k2snowboards88:
You bite on it by getting angry, instead of staying cool and rational.
[EVO 4G General] toastcfh:
Thread being closed.5 pages of nothing but flaming.
[EVO 4G General] Gekx:
iPhone.... really? First-off this is no longer a "band-wagon" its an Army! Agreed??? Second why would you want a device that is the target of every hacker on the net right now? (Jailbroken iPhone). Also jailbreaking shows no love to the Dev community ; just pirating their hard work :-( Third your just now getting folders, and Multi-tasking. UI still that same ugly Icons for days. Widgets? Sprints coverage is pretty bad but AT&T? Worst 3g around. Should go well with the reception "issue" LOL Evo'd out.... iTool should be you name bra. Good news I'm sure that name is still avaible here on XDA...

oh yeah FLAME +999 on the OP
[Desire Android Development] rolfd:
Copied over from the other thread!

Browser is fine, but no G-Apps, therefore no contacts sync. etc.
[Desire Android Development] Nekromantik:
its about as bare as a ROM can get ha ha
[Desire Android Development] rolfd:
Here is a link to the G Apps. Got it from defer on irc.

http://kanged.net/mirror/gapps/gapps-passion-FRF91-signed.zip
[Desire Android Development] gatsu_1981:
It's not laziness... Cyanogen is quite a big person in the scene ;)

http://androidandme.com/2009/09/news/google-responds-to-cyanogenmod-controversy/
[Desire Android Development] Nekromantik:
Never said it was lazy

its not a final build so I know there will be things missing :)
[Desire Android Development] gatsu_1981:
Nope, with cyanogenmod you will never find google apps, even in final builds. You will always have to flash them apart :D
[Desire Android Development] rolfd:
Once you put gapps on it makes it look more like the phone we know again. lol

Edit: F/B sync doesn't work, and the led turns Green at 90% charge.
[Desire Android Development] Nekromantik:
Ah right

Didnt know that lol

ha ha

yeah
[Desire Android Development] divvet:
So whats different with Cyanogenmod 6 to 5?
[Desire Android Development] gatsu_1981:
Just flashed the package, will test them as soon as it boots. Until now only video recording is broken.
[Desire Android Development] Zhypr:
nvm. 10charlimit.
[Desire Android Development] Dancube:
If someone has been experiencing echo/white noise with Froyo roms previously, can they report whether they are finding this occurring with this please?
[Desire Android Development] gatsu_1981:
Automatic brightness is sort of broken: you have it to tinker a little with it to make it working.

When it works, it only goes up automatically: you have to make the device sleep to make brightness go down again.

A2SD legacy way (trasparent to OS) is not activated: I automatically let it download my apps, and when it finished, I had 30 megs free.

I will try to break my installation now, just trying tremor a2sd script :D

Don't try it, it won't work (still... I'm reporting everything to the tremor thread).
[Desire Android Development] Nekromantik:
Yeah I just seen on the CM forums that they deciding how to do the A2SD, they trying to do both old skool and froyo. Probs wont be in the nightly builds.
[Desire Android Development] gatsu_1981:
That's quite clever: most phones, even high end (Nexus one or our Desire) actually have a very pooooo 512 flash memory.

Instead, everyone can get a 4/8 GB Class 6 SDHC memory for not more than 20/30 EUR.

It would be stupid to still leave everything on ROM...

Froyo-way A2SD is just the starting, and it would be good only for GB devices owners that doesn't want too give away too much space for games!!!! :(

Testing 07 / 07 build ;)
[Desire Android Development] mr.r9:
How is the rom? Is it fast/smooth? How is the 3D performance & animations?

I haven't used CM since my HTC Magic so a little review will be good :D
[Desire Android Development] kkaalldd:
the KING of custom rom's cyanogenMOD is Back

Can't wait to install this on my Desire :D
[Desire Android Development] xtcislove:
Hardly waiting for Cyanogen MOD 6.

Want to use a original ROM of him since i testet a port on the Hero =)

Cyanogen u do it =)
[Desire Android Development] crowstar:
YES!!!

Woken up to expect froyo sense...

And I get cm. THis is truely a good time to have a desire.

Full Root next maybe?

is this official?

no mention on benocharms twitter or cyanogens...
[Desire Android Development] bjehsus:
Proper install procedure seems to be:

(after rooting, flashing rootedupdate)

wipe system/data

flash latest cm nightly

flas gapps

wipe cashe

flash odexer found above

flash proprietary-networkfix found above

follow insturctions above for commands to setup odexer

replace build.prop with the one i posted above to fix fb sync issues

WIPE CACHE

boot
[Desire Android Development] GANJDROID:
O.o

That's a lot to remember. I had previously flashed it no problems, I can't figure out why the hell it isn't working now.

Edit: is the odexer in the same post as the network fix? If so I get a 404 error :/
[Desire Android Development] bjehsus:
http://kali.jabb.im/odexer-signed.zip

http://kali.jabb.im/bravo_proprietary-networkfix-signed.zip

reboot in recovery

flash odexer-signed.zip

adb shell

cd /system/xbin

./odex.sh

(Wait till it's finished)

flash bravo_proprietary-networkfix-signed.zip

wipe cache

reboot
[Desire Android Development] Nekromantik:
is it the same with tonights new build?
[Desire Android Development] bjehsus:
ooh, a new build? :) haven't checked it out yet, presumably if they haven't fixed the proprietary/network bugs, then follow all insructions.. just try booting it before you flash the network fix, if there's no problems you won't need to flash it
[Desire Android Development] Nekromantik:
true.

will try in the morning if I remember ha ha

Might just wait for the beta. N1, Dream, Droid and Saphire all have beta's released so Desire should be soon.
[Desire Android Development] beidl:
Here's a small fix to get Goggles running on CM6.

Thanks to georgemv (http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=7147540&postcount=5529) for the hint.

This is an unsigned zip file, please disable signature verification in Clockwork Recovery before flashing.

(Did not have time for signing it. Sry.)

Please tell me if it's working. :)