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[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
here is a related read about the mystical band

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=737268&highlight=850

the spec dual data band 850/1900 comes from the bell.ca site, you'll need to sign up before you can login to get the spec

google up samsung galaxy vibrant on bell

as for bands supported by European operators, it varies from place to place, but the 1900 is almost an international band in most countries
[Galaxy S I9000 General] illemon:
[Q] Will HongKong version i9000 work in Canada Rogers 3g network?

I saw the specification of HongKong version i9000 from the Samsung official website.

it says the following about i9000:

band : UMTS + GSM（850/900/1800/1900MHz）

Network & Data	HSDPA 7.2Mbps, HSUPA 5.76Mbps, Wi-Fi 802.11 n

I guess it should work in rogers 3g network right? because, i current has 6gb data plan in rogers, i really do not want to waste it....

I can not post external links here... but if you want to see the spec for this phone, you can go to HongKong samsung website to check.

Sorry, my English is not very good.

Thanks for your answer!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] applebook:
Yes, it will.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
there are TONS of the HK versions running in Toronto already, as you know on the P-mall there are lots of shops selling those

the HK version is the same as the UK version, it just has more chinese related software loaded, but hardware is the same as UK

works fine with Fido and Rogers unlocked

however the

is not correct that is only GSM voice calls, 3G data is only 900/1900/2100 just like UK

Edge/2G runs on the quoted info

i was going so close to buy one of those, until i find out with one of the sales guys.

that's why i went with the Bell version later.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] illemon:
But UK version supports 3G band 900/1900/2100, rogers is 3g band 850/1900. if the hardware is the same, HongKong i9000 will only sort of half supports rogers 3g network, is that true?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
yes only in the 1900 band for 3G/HSDPA

but 850/1900 for voice
[Galaxy S I9000 General] illemon:
For AllGamer:(Sorry, I forget to quote your post)

So if 3g only works on 1900Mhz, does that mean we can not get such good 3g signal strength as those phones supporting 850/1900 3g band?

Do you have any ideas how bad it is if only use 1900 band? enough to use? or nearly can not be used? Thanks a lot!!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
1900 is not bad at all in Vancouver / Toronto

but in small towns 850 is more important
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ady:
Every time a new phone comes out, the same question is asked by everyone from north america. Here is the simple answer, please read it and know that it holds true for all the phones in the past and will be in the future too with only one exception: If quad band 3G radio becomes mainstream or/and north american future LTE network deployment use the same band as rest of the world:

<fact>

North american GSM networks use a different band than the rest of the world. it used to be same for the plain GSM networks in the past until quad band radios become mainstream for GSM phones. Now same is the case with 3G radios.

in short, <add new hot phone here> does not have the full support for north american 3G band. It may work in the area you are but it does not mean that it will work for everyone and therefore, unless if you are fine with not having 3G, do not buy it.

</fact>
[Galaxy S I9000 General] cmstlist:
In short: the only way to get full 3G is to have both UMTS 850 and 1900.

A phone with only UMTS 850 (e.g. Telstra-Australia HTC Desire is 850/2100) will get 3G coverage nearly everywhere in Canada. In urban areas where 1900 is used to reinforce coverage, the network could be more congested.

A phone with only UMTS 1900 (e.g. the HK Galaxy S) will mainly get 3G in the urban areas where that frequency is deployed. Everywhere else it's EDGE. On Bell/Telus a phone with only this 3G frequency will drop to "no service" outside of 1900 coverage zones!

And I tell this to everyone... you *really* will resent having a beautiful snappy phone that can't access 3G speeds. It gets really old, really fast.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] xybot:
I9000 IMEI not registering on Rogers

I recently purchased the GT-I9000 from NCIX.com and am recieving UTMS (1900Mhz) over Rogers here in Calgary (in the basement of my house too!), however I seem to having other issues.

Rogers is having trouble activating my IMEI number, thus I can't actually recieve 3G or EDGE data service, only detect it.... A quick search on the web alluded that the handset may be stolen ?!?! (I highly doubt it) or that another carrier may have reserved the IMEI. Anyone have any advice on the topic?

Some details:

German release

baseband ver: I9000XXFJ3

Thanks!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
that doesn't make much sense

you stick in the SIM card and it works

however, if some one did report the phone as STOLEN, then the IMEI number gets BLACK LISTED in the system, and any one trying to use it will not get connexion

i'm using an Euro version of the SGS i9000 on FIDO (owned by Rogers) and it works great! only getting 1900 though

i got the Bell version also, but waiting for my SIM unlock card to arrive, it works just fine with 3G on both 850 / 1900 on Fido already tested by another guy.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] xybot:
That is great to hear AllGamer! If this EURO I9000 doesn't work out for me then I'll be getting the Bell ver and unlocking it too. I agree, this makes no sense.

I will try Rogers again tomorrow. The support guy today was very inexperienced and was trying other IMEI numbers on my account to get it activated ?!?!

The packaging as well as the July manufacturing date leads me to believe I am the first owner of this phone.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ledhed:
[Q] Bell i9000m unlocked on Fido Questions/Issues

To anyone who's in the know, I have 2 issues and a question regarding my SGS. My phone works perfectly for the most part. However; all my text messages are coming in timestamped 4 hours earlier than they actually are. I searched the forums and found some WinMo solutions but nothing for Android. The ins issue I'm having is that when I use the stock Mobile AP app I can connect with my iPad but no data is transferred at all. Could Fido be blocking my tethering these two?

Those are my issues, here is my question. I'm coming from an iPhone 3G and I still have my Fido "value pack" which includes visual voicemail. Is there any way to usenvisual voicemail on the SGS? I know other US carriers offer it for Android so might I be able to port over their voicemail app to use with Fido?

Thanks in advance experts!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] catsa:
Your first issue is extremely easy, just go to the android market and search for SMS Time Fix, run it and set the offset to 4 (i think) and voila. Not sure bout your second issue as i unfortunately do not have VM, instead i have a free value pack which inlucdes 2500 texts.

I do have a question though, either for you or other Fido users, does your phone display the 3G or H (for HSPA) icon when NOT on wifi? How did you config your APN settigns? I followed some instructions on here exactly, those were for the HTC Magic or something though, but i am still only stuck on EDGE.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ledhed:
Hm, that's strange indeed! I used the standard APN settings I found online and i get perfect 3G & HSPA reception. It does turn off when I'm connected to wifi but goes on automatically when I'm not in wifi range. What APN are you using?

As for the SMS fix I actually already tried it but it wasn't working for me on most messages, only ever 4 or 5 I'd say.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] catsa:
APN settings i used this one: (cant post the link)

APN1 [this one will have the radio button beside it]

Name: fido internet

APN: internet.fido.ca

Username: fido

Password: fido

APN Type: default

(all other fields blank)

APN2 [this one will not have any radio button beside it]

Name: fido mms

APN: mms.fido.ca

MMSC: mms.fido.ca

MMS Proxy: 205.151.011.013

APN Type: mms

(all other fields blank)

SMS TIme FIx, my config is Active checked, and Offset to 4.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
same, i keep 3G and WiFi on

the phone will automatically use WiFi when it's available, even when 3G is ON

as soon as you are out of the WiFi range it automatically switches back to 3G

it doesn't turn off by itself

Even when the battery is down to 1% all the feature work

however the phone just keep wanting to shutdown for obvious reason.

i always drain my battery to the last drop before i switch to a new charged pack

i always carry extra with me

i use 1 pack for AM and 1 pack for PM
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
I have mine combined

Name: fido

APN: internet.fido.ca

Username: fido

Password: fido

MMSC: mms.fido.ca

MMS Proxy: 205.151.011.013

APN Type: internet + mms

so, i'm trying to understand why you want it separate?

:confused:

to be able to turn off internet 2G/3G, and use only MMS to save battery life?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] catsa:
I copied those settings from a different thread, cant post the link for some reason. I tried to use your settings, which does make sense as the Galaxy S supports a single entry for two settings. Restarted phone, still EDGE only...

What firmware do you use? i have stock 2.1+update1
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
it works for me on both stock JG9 and JH2
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ledhed:
Try them as 2 separate APN entries? That's how I have mine.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] gmonies21:
What do you do for APN1 where your suppose to input "default" but the options I have on my galaxy S are both (mms and internet) , Internet or MMS. So I don't have a default, what do you put for APN1 ??
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ledhed:
I have mine set as just "internet".
[Galaxy S I9000 General] gmonies21:
for the APN1?? It's working good like that for you?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] iamcanadian:
I'm with FIDO to, and since fido only allows certain MBs per month for me, is there a way to only activate the 3g connection when I needed it? similar to the WIFI connection?

thanks
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
yes easy

get APN on-off Widget here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=765081

then you can turn it on or off as you need it
[Galaxy S I9000 General] the_ahmadzais:
get a app called data on demand from market
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
Interesting find about Fido.mobi also Rogers.mobi

Just recently a fellow Canucks brought up to my attention this very interesting issue

re: fido,mobi

you are right only the 2 pages doesn't work, going to either "Make a Payment, or Account Balance"

http://mobss.rogers.com/mss/postaccountbalance.do?language=en

a google search and DNS search reveals mobss.rogers.com is not a valid address from a computer

but if you click on More>> then it works for the extra pages, and all the other links in the home page of fido.mobile, it's weird indeed, it must be related to a hard coded host file on devices supported by fido/rogers

note: you can only reach that page via phone data, if you have WiFi it wont let you in

re: speed

H=3.5G better known as HSPDA

3G=3G

2G=EDGE

G=GPRS
[Galaxy S I9000 General] iamcanadian:
Thanks AllGamer,

I recently discovered that supported FIDO phones use WAP connection to log in to the online account. Could this be the reason?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] iamcanadian:
[SOLVED]

I was correct, only WAP settings are accepted to log in to your account using FIDO.mobi. I was able to log in using the following settings:

APN - wap.fido.ca

Homepage URL - http://wap.fido.ca

Security - Non-Secure

IP Address - 205.151.011.011

User Name - fido

Password - fido
[Galaxy S I9000 General] iamcanadian:
New issue,

Since surfing online is very slow using WAP settings, I had to make the Fido Internet settings in the APN my default one.

Is there a way to make the internet.fido.ca settings the default one when surfing online and make the wap.fido.ca default one only when accessing fido.mobi?

thanks
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Sh1n0l3i:
Hey just wondering im on Fido network and if i get the GT-9000M which is from bell, will the 3g from fido work with it?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
of course and i must add, better than on Bell itself ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
nope, it had to be selected manually at the moment

click the green button, on the profile that you want to use
[Galaxy S I9000 General] yungstar89:
Hey guys, I've tried both separate apns and a combined one, but MMS is sill not working for me. The 3g symbol flashed when I try sharing a pic but then it just freezes as sending in the messaging window. Any idea?

Also, does everyone here have to keep data roaming on? When I turn it off, 3g disables itself. Is there any way to make Fido my default network per-say.

I'm on an At&t on the fido network if that makes a difference. I've unlocked the phone, got 3g working seamlessly and applied the sms time fix.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] PatcheZ:
um those apn's posted earlier seem correct to me (as you need both) to get mms working...

as for data roaming, i think if you have a fido sim card, it should automatically set your default network to fido, and roaming would be everything else.

i'm using mine on the telus network, mms works fine, and data roaming off (as telus doesn't have the edge network)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] yungstar89:
Well I've tried both the combined and separate Apns in this thread, and countless other combinations. I think I might have to give fido a call and sort this out.

I also can't turn the data roaming off or I can't connect to 3g. Maybe I should post a thread so more people see this?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
H/3G and 2G definitely works fine in Fido

do you have the Bell phone or the Euro version of the phone?

The Bell one works 100% even better than on Bell's own network

Euro version works 50% because of the missing band

so you are only getting 2G most of the time, very few places 3G only when you get spots with 1900 band

MMS works if you have the settings configured in the APN
[Galaxy S I9000 General] yungstar89:
I actually have the At&t captivate so it should work seamlessly on Fido's network since they utilize the same frequencies. I just bought it two days ago and have done nothing but unlock using the galaxy s unlock app from the market.

The 3g works amazingly fast from fido too. I've also applied the sms time fix but I don't think that should change anything. The only problem I get is that I can't send or receive any mms. My gps also doesn't work but I think that's an easy fix anyways, so I haven't looked into it yet. Basically the apn for 3g works, but not for mms. Does anyone have anything entered in "mms port"?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] normalife:
Does any one know how to setup FIDO's internet setting is Galaxy S?

they just give me gprs , mms setting information and i have absoubly no idea how to set it into my phone,

does any of u guys can show me the steps for that?

i would be greatly appeciate

actually i found some post about this

APN: wap.fido.ca

IP Address: 205.151.011.011 (which I suspect will go to the proxy?)

WAP: fido.mobi with a http in front of it

User Name: fido

Password: fido

General Internet Setting:

APN: internet.fido.ca

same user name and password

dial up access: *99#

but i have no idea where the wap setting and General Internet Setting is...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
from http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=776617
[Galaxy S I9000 General] normalife:
thx for yr help but it doesnt work..

after i press save and it goes back to the 'APNs' page and i gotta set it up again and keeps looping..
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jaskaranbir:
I9000 network problem with virgin!

Hi, I bought galaxy i9000 for my wife from australia with following specs. phone is unlocked. My wife got new connection with virgin and it was running alryte for about 2 days but now she has got network problem. she is not recieving any signals while she is at work or home but when we go to virgin shop in mall signals start coming up and everything goes fine again. i have complaint it to virgin they said its not network its phone. I have called virgin call centre no one knows what the problem is. I m just fed up now. can anyone please help what could be the problem. Virgin reckon that they run on HSPA network and phone is not compatible but i have checked specs it is compatible. phone has following specs:

Samsung I9000 Galaxy S at a glance:

General: GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz, UMTS 900/1900/2100 MHz, HSDPA 7.2 Mbps, HSUPA 5.76 Mbps

Form factor: Touchscreen bar phone

Dimensions: 122.4 x 64.2 x 9.9 mm, 118 g

Display: 4" 16M-color Super AMOLED capacitive touchscreen, 480 x 800 pixels

CPU: Samsung Cortex A8 Hummingbird 1 GHz processor

OS: Android 2.1 (Eclair)

Memory:32 GB storage, microSD card slot

Camera: 5 megapixel auto-focus camera with face detection and touch focus; 720p video recording at 30fps

Connectivity: Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 3.0 with A2DP, standard microUSB port, GPS receiver with A-GPS, 3.5mm audio jack, FM radio

Misc: TouchWiz 3.0 UI, built-in accelerometer, multi-touch input, proximity sensor, Swype text input
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
man, you should have posted this in a new topic not hijacking another topic.

your description sounds exactly a network problem error,

if it works at the mall and not at home, then obviously the bandwidth in the area your house is not compatible

depending on your country you might need any of these combos

850/1900/2100 NAM

900/1900/2100 Euro/Asia

1700/1900/2100 Brazil, USA, Canada, some other countries
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jaskaranbir:
@AllGamer - Sorry about hijacking this topic. I m new to this forum. Thanks for quick reply. I didnt get that. What exactly u mean i have to do to get it working properly??
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
which bands do your local cell provider supports?

you mentioned it was virgin, but which bands do they use?

850/1900/2100

900/1900/2100

1700/1900/2100
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jaskaranbir:
Virgin uses HSPA network..
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
that was not the question HSPA is just a comm protocol feature not the band.

you need to figure out which bands virgin supports, and ask them about the towers near your house to see which bands they operate on.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] aridoasis:
nice thread...

i'm using rogers on my galaxy and have been having no problems with HSPA. I usually have the H icon up on the bar. btw, i'm in vancouver. went all the way up to salmon arm and herald park and was still getting HSPA.

btw, how to i know w/c bands i have? in only see GSM/WCDMA on the network mode.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Cruisin1966:
Virgin uses the HSPA 850/1900 bands just like all the big three do (Bell, Telus, Rogers/Fido).
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
@jaskaranbir

where are you in the world?

the phone you have is made for 3G / H for Europe
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jaskaranbir:
Virgin uses 1700/1900/2100
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jaskaranbir:
@AllGamer

I m from australia and i gifted my wife phone from australia
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jaskaranbir:
this is link for exact spec for phone http://au.samsungmobile.com/mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-s-specification
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
then the model you selected is no good since it runs on 900/1900/2100

you should get the version from T-mobile that runs on 1700/1900/2100
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tase25:
I'm also in the Richmond Hill/Markham area. So if I go to eBay and buy an unlocked T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S, am I going to get 3G data coverage?

I think the one you guys bought from newwayci is an unbranded version and that's why it works.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] intranetsites:
Can not set APN on bell i9000 samsung for Rogers sim

Ok. I have no data on my bell samsung galaxy with Rogers sim card

I did unlock it but trouble setting apn

I go to the right spot to set APN but the page is blank

Btw..... under network operators

Is see

Rogers. Says registered on network

302220. Doesn't,t work

302610. Doesn't work
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
no that is the wrong page, it should look like this
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jark99:
Same here I use with rogers on 3g network works great
[Galaxy S I9000 General] afleck:
[Q] i9000 Bell on Rogers

Currently I am on Telus and they are beginning to drive me crazy. Besides, Rogers has a better network anyways, so why not switch, right?

Basically I am wondering if my Bell i9000 will work on the Rogers network. I know Rogers supports EDGE and 1900mhz HSPA. But will my i9000 from Bell support this? Is it somehow crippled to only work on the Bell 3G network?

What I really want is to be able to use Rogers 3G and be able to fall back onto their 2G EDGE network when needed.

Anybody have any experience with this? Thanks in advance!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
full feature on Rogers and Fido

it actually works waaaaaaaaaay better than on Bell themself
[Galaxy S I9000 General] seastar:
Hi all, I just unboxed my i9000 (from HK I believe), Im on Rogers (vancouver), the phone works, but can't get my data (internet) network to work. I do have the rogers 6 gig plan for data, but cant get internet working. Any suggestions? from reading the threads here, do I have to configure the phone first? how to do this? thanks for reading!

G

ps hope this phone is better than my sony X10 which is now sitting on my shelf....
[Galaxy S I9000 General] rmanaudio:
You need to set the APN!

Put the following in under Settings > wireless and network > Mobile networks > Access point Names > create!

Name :Rogers

apn: rogers-core-appl1.apn

MMSC http://mms/gprs.rogers.com

MMS proxy: 10.128.1.69

MMS port: 80

APN type internet + mms
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Aqua1ung:
Do they have HSDPA 850 in HK? Maybe wherever you live you don't get HSDPA 1900...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] seastar:
Hey rmanaudio,

Followed your instructions AND now it works!! Thank you very much for your help on this ( I owe you a coffee, man)!

Seastar

vancouver
[Galaxy S I9000 General] equlizer:
Will the Bell Samsung galaxy s vibrant work on Rogers?

Im hearing mixed messages about this one. Will the "Bell" samsung galaxy s vibrant work on "Rogers" networks? Does the Bell phone do 850/1900 for 3G and higher?

What it comes down to is can i go buy this phone from Bell and just unlock it to work on Rogers? After rooting is it safe to update to a hacked 2.2 froyo rom?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
yes to rogers

don't even try beta 2.2 until the official release, you'll be killing the phone in no time with the beta on
[Galaxy S I9000 General] equlizer:
So just stay with the original rom? Is the Ryanza 1 click lagfix the best? Whats the best method to Root this phone? How will i know if i have the 3 button issue?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
there is a very high chance your Internal SD will suffer a heart attack (literally) if you use those

there is a sticky topic about the Internal SD problem in the forum
[Galaxy S I9000 General] equlizer:
Thank you very much for the quick replies. I have the chance to get the Samsung captivate. Does this phone have such issues?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
hmm........... you should check the Captivate forum to find out, since the forums are still currently split

it is rather hard to keep track of the Happenings on the Captivate

but Captivate = AT&T/Rogers version of the crippled I9000 phone

not sure if you really want that.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] akurit:
Fido Caller ID and Timestamp

Has anyone had issues with SMS timestamps and Caller ID not showing up on the I9000 Samsung Galaxy S on Fido network. I am having these issues with my current phone and Fido says they dont support all features on non Fido phones.