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[EVO 4G Android Development] webs05:
I completely disagree with that strategy but its thread drift. If you want to discuss strategy of coming up with root guides I would start another thread. This one is for discussing the Bounty on coming up with a solution.
[EVO 4G Android Development] justinisyoung:
i'm sorry to sound so negative but, i've seen way too many of these bounty threads.

most of the time, the promised bounty doesn't come to fruition. either the bounty thread gets buried and forgotten or 90% of the people who originally said that they would add to the bounty decide to not pay up. and the devs hardly ever ask for the money because it's not this that motivates them.

most of the developers and hackers are here just because they want to try and do it. i seriously doubt that they are not working as hard as they can, and a bounty (in my opinion) won't really do anything to speed this up.

nevertheless, maybe this one will turn out different and someone will really be rewarded. i'm just speaking from experience, having seen multiple variations of these threads.
[EVO 4G Android Development] gangsterholla179:
I agree with you, I doubt many would pay, but at least we know that the community wants their rooted evo
[EVO 4G Android Development] SteelH:
Your contribution has been noted.
[EVO 4G Android Development] SteelH:
Your contribution has been noted. Thank you.
[EVO 4G Android Development] SteelH:
I couldn't agree more. More EVOs will eventually be sold with this updated OTA version or a newer one in the future than what was sold in the first month.
[EVO 4G Android Development] SteelH:
You have made some valid points here, I can't disagree. However, I will pay the $100 I promised. Of course you'll have to ait for this root to be done for me to prove myself. As for the other people who have said they would contribute, I have no control over them. Some probably won't pay. I could ask that they all pay me their offer now so that I could make the final payment in one lump sum; but they would argue I'm going to run off with the money (And I wouldn't blame them, people run scams online all the time). This is why I post who said they would pay what in the original posting, so if they don't pay up we will all know who isn't worth a ****. So this is the best we have to offer at this point in time, unless a board moderator or owner can figure out some sort of 3rd party escrow.

Finally, I started this thread NOT to speed anything up. I simply wanted to pay my dues and give back to those who spend their valuable time and resources making a rooted EVO for so many of us possible.
[EVO 4G Android Development] fnordelus:
Well said,
[EVO 4G Android Development] PhantomApollyon:
I'd just like to throw this out there for everyone. I've worked for Sprint for years and since day 1 of the EVO launch, I have NEVER seen an EVO come in with the new software version, they are ALWAYS the base version unless someone runs the update. I can tell you that Sprint INSISTS that rep's do ALL the updates straight away and thats probably where the issue arises.

If you bought your EVO with the new software, the OTA update was done either while the rep activated it or before you got to the store. Also, pretty much any major string of updates that is launched over the air isn't generally released on new devices. For example: Brand new HTC Hero's don't ship with the 2.1 update OR the OTA hot-fix/update. Those updates have been out for MONTHS and yet the new units don't ship with them. Same for the Samsung Moment, it ships with 1.5 although its 2.1 update has been out for months.

I can also tell you this: we got a notice about the EVO getting the 2.2 update and it will be a OTW update where you have to actually plug it up and run the RUU(As expected), which means the new units should NEVER ship with 2.2 and thus rooting and such shouldn't be a big issue going forward.

Obviously this is just my 2 cents but I figured people might feel comfortable about throwing over some cash to help the cause.
[EVO 4G Android Development] SteelH:
PhantomAppollyon: Do you know anything about replacement phones from Asurion? (They are the company that provides insurance for most major carriers, including Sprint). I am wondering if they apply all updates on the replacement phones they ship. Reason being, I am awaiting a replacement EVO from them.
[EVO 4G Android Development] fifoloveritas:
This is a little disappointing. I jumped from ATT to Spring when the Evo was released because it seemed that HTC was more hands off than others manufacturer, so I ignored somewhat better phones like the Droid X or the new Samsungs because openness is worth quite a bit in my book and I wanted to support a company that seemed to actually understand its customers. In a good way, not in "they are like fish" Apple way.

I am already rooted, but put me down for a couple of sardine cans on principle. $10 from True Fifolo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] SteelH:
I don't agree the droid x is better than the evo. In fact, they are almost identical in specs. The droid 2 however looks sweet with the slide keyboard though. Even more bad ass is motorolas forthcoming droid that has a 2ghx cpu.

Thanks for you contribution, added to first post.
[EVO 4G Android Development] zachtib:
this was my experience with Sprint with the Palm Pre, if you got a new one, they wouldn't let it out of the door without being up to date.
[EVO 4G Android Development] fifoloveritas:
My understating is that the Droid X has a discrete GPU. Nonetheless, a phone is a sum total of its parts, and to me HTC was (and hopefully will still be) a clincher.

Not a fanboi by any strech, I come form Nokia N95 and this is my first Android or HTC phone but I did a lot of reading before jumping.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nebenezer:
wrong, heros are shipping with 2.1
[EVO 4G Android Development] p-slim:
c'mon guys just think about it. any evo thats already boxed up is going to have the old software and expect to be upgraded. any new evo manufactured from this point on will have the new software, its that simple. Sprint reps aren't required to to do updates and some will and some won't. offering a bounty to crack the root is stupid because anybody who has anything to do with rooting is already on it. Toast, unrevoked , and many others are working on it already, and your bounty isn't changing that. you should already be donating to who ever root process you use because they work on this for many hours a day.
[EVO 4G Android Development] SteelH:
First off, we aren't stupid. As I previously stated, I started this thread to give something back to the devs who put their time and energy into rooting these ROMs for us. Everyone here is well aware that many people have been working on rooting this new FW. If you don't agree with us, please feel free to abstain from posting in this thread.
[EVO 4G Android Development] p-slim:
like you said feel free. if i want to post i will and if i don't i won't. youre starting a thread to collect a bounty for something people are already working on. GREAT JOB.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Land Master:
While I can't vouch for others my word is good. This comes from my own business philosophy's. Its funny because as a businessman, I see opportunity here. I would love to organize these developers and quite honestly get them to start charging for their work. What a rare and strange bunch they are. I can't even imagine giving my time away and they ALL do it on a daily basis.

I would assume this come from either a total passion for helping others or from the fact that they realize even if they sold their products, everyone would just pirate it anyway.

If the day ever comes where unlocking/rooting/modding these devices becomes a device specific endeavor and the process could (would have to be) tailored for each individual person/device, these guys could actually turn their talents into a worthwhile business endeavor.
[EVO 4G Android Development] p-slim:
I do agree, there is money to be made and many people do not donate to the devs which suxs. the only point i was trying to make is that this thread will IN NO WAY speed up the process of the root. I'm one of the people who believe it shouldn't take a thread to make a donation. everybody who has an evo rooted through unrevoked or toast and is saving $30 a month tethering, EVERYBODY with an evo shouldve donated to them, now when their root is taken away they want to start a bounty thread. it just leaves me to believe they didn't want to donate the first time now they really want it back and decide they want to make a donation.
[EVO 4G Android Development] OneStepAhead:
I've got the White EVO on pre-order. Planning on swapping my 002 novatek that i got on 6/13 for it. I'm hoping they don't ship it with the update, im guessing they wont since the update just came out and im assuming the phone was made at least a month ago. Does BB need to activate the phone before they can run the update? If thats the case I can probably stop them from doing the update when I get there. If they dont need to activate it, then there is a chance they will already of run it when i get there. Sure hope not.. what to do, what to do.. trade in a phone that i know can be rooted and has no screen problems (i actually like my panel, but i have nothing to compare it to either) for a phone that might not be able to be rooted but hopefully has a better build quality. also not sure what this lag everyone is talking about, but i havent experienced any with my touch input. im assuming there is an app somewhere to test it? is it just a problem with games?

edit: count me in for a dub (thats $20 for you squares)
[EVO 4G Android Development] fifoloveritas:
My impression is that is as much a gesture as it is a bounty. Personally, I have been here for 3 weeks and have donated to the site and to many ROM builders and other devs. This, again my impression, seems to be a public showing of support for that the guys do.

I am, myself, a business man and and software developer -been wearing both hats for 15 years- but not in this line of work. The amount of the bounty in this post is a a drop in the bucket for any sort of development work. Clearly, these guys do it for the hobby aspect of it. This attitude is what drew me and others to this site, to HTC, and to Android.

That may sound hokey, and maybe I am a bit influenced by nostalgia, and certainly I am dating myself, but this is the most vibrant tech scene I have seen since the C64 and Amiga days.
[EVO 4G Android Development] SteelH:
Go find some other thread to flame. You obviously disagree with the rest of us, which you are entitled too. I already stated this was not intended to speed up anything, nor do I expect it. Not everyone is able to root their phones at this point. This thread is a way to give back to the devs for their work; they deserve it. Furthermore, I already have donated to XDA forums, I support what XDA does. Don't make assumptions for other people, you don't know us.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Land Master:
The OP stated that his intent was NOT to "speed up" the process and we should have no reason to doubt this.

Regarding the people that have yet to donate, I'm actually one of them. My intention to do so is most definitely there but after learning all I can about this stuff over the last month, I honestly don't remember whose "stuff" benefited me the most. I have researched countless tutorials and web sites in order to get to my rooted status and attempting to go back and figure out who is worthy of my money after the fact, is unfortunately not going to happen. I'm just not going to start clicking a bunch of donate buttons because I feel guilty, which honestly, I do. I know how I feel, my intentions are good, I have benefited from the FREE stuff and still I have yet to $$$.

I don't think I am alone and at least this is one consolidated place to "pool" our cash. Hopefully people are true to their words.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Royals:
I will also pay $75.00 to anyone who can root this...im soo angry that i updated
[EVO 4G Android Development] SteelH:
Thank you, I have added you to the first page original posting with your amount. You generosity is appreciated.
[EVO 4G Android Development] toenail78:
you mention that hes entitled to his own opinion but somehow managed to say he was flaming.. the dude makes a valid point and to your disapproval i have to agree with him.. i also find bounty topics to to pretty pointless... the devs are in this for the hobby, it doesnt take a bounty for them to decide what they want to work on next.. if you like their product donate to them.. i used the fresh rom which is why ive chosen to make a donation to flipz, everyones talking about putting this and putting that up.. if those ppl are using a custom rom i sure as hell hope theyve made a donation already if they are willing to put up for the bounty.. obviously if youve made a donation already then this msg isnt for you and option two would be just donate to xda as others have said
[EVO 4G Android Development] toenail78:
however you were warned over and over and over again! not bashing at all, but you have to admit it is sorta funny
[EVO 4G Android Development] SteelH:
This is now a DONATION thread for those who cannot root because they have ROM v1.47 for one reason or another. If you disagree with donating to whomever can root v1.47 I'm sorry to hear that.
[EVO 4G Android Development] SteelH:
For anyone else who comes along, this thread is about DONATION for rooting rom v1.47. If you have something else to say, start your own thread. We prefer to stay on topic here.
[EVO 4G Android Development] OneStepAhead:
what we should do is start the collection right now, like perhaps the OP has everyone paypal him right now. that way when the root is done the money will be available instantly to the dev. we wont be waiting around for people to maybe donate either. assuming the OP is trustworthy with the money, i think its a great idea. if he runs off with the money to buy crystal meth, then we may have a problem. unless he uses the meth to stay up for a week and gets root himself! :) we could say if no one gets root in the next X days then everyone gets refunded. i'm willing to send my donation now.. not everyone would have to do it obviously, they could donate once we have root, but if even some of us did it this way we would be able to offer a guaranteed amount to the dev.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bluehaze:
Froyo will be out soon, no sense wasting all that effort on 1.47 update and then have to wait months for a Froyo root. Much rather see the devs working on root for Froyo! Noone will even remember 1.47 in another week or two LOL
[EVO 4G Android Development] ndfan77:
I don't believe this is accurate logic. From what I've read the real essence of rooting the EVO is to replace the released build of HBOOT (0.79.0000) with the engineering build (0.76.2000). Once you have the engineering build of HBOOT installed, you can flash anything.

OTA updates to this point have not included HBOOT. If the Froyo distribution does not include HBOOT, rooting 1.47 now will equal rooting in Froyo. If Froyo does include HBOOT, we'll just have to wait briefly until it is repackaged without it.

The sooner this is solved the better.
[EVO 4G Android Development] okolowicz:
Put me down for $25

I had to exchange my EVO on Thursday and had not yet read that the update prevented root so, I didn't object when I saw the Sprint employee updating the new one.

Now I'm kicking myself. I miss root and get bitter everytime I even see one of the icons for Sprint's software. Considering the cost of the phone over the course of a 2 year contract it is incomprehensible that there is no non-root way to remove them.

Meanwhile, the assclowns at Sprint probably still wonder why they've been bleeding subscribers.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Joshonekenobi:
rooting for Software V. 1.47

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=715915

Would this method count for rooting of the 1.47 software version?
[EVO 4G Android Development] zippy-man:
No you already have to have the old hboot.

Problem we have is the ota overwrites the eng hboot and we can't crack the new one so we can use the old hacked one.

Sent from my Sprint Htc Evo 4g
[EVO 4G Android Development] Land Master:
NO...Although I used it and its fantastic, you need to be rooted BEFORE you use it. Those with 1.47 already installed and no root, cannot use this method.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ndfan77:
Not if the Nand unlock (part II of toast's unlock) wasn't performed first. The BIG mistake is accepting the update before downgrading HBOOT to the engineering build. If you accept the 1.47 OTA while the released HBOOT is still on EVO (which is how they come from HTC), you're hosed.

Post #124 in the thread mentioned has a pretty good explanation. (I think I'm still too junior on this site to include a link.)
[EVO 4G Android Development] rockky:
Is be glad to donate : $25.

I'll be waiting in further instruction and updates to this.
[EVO 4G Android Development] texthetrex:
Another $20

I've had my EVO since day one, but I've been too busy to get around to rooting. Now I'm kicking myself for applying this latest update. Please count my $20 donation to the bounty.
[EVO 4G Android Development] SteelH:
You have been added to the first posting. Thanks!
[EVO 4G Android Development] SteelH:
Added. Thanks.
[EVO 4G Android Development] SteelH:
Given the responses so far to this idea, it would be easier to set up a single payer for the donation. This would ensure whomever roots this ROM gets their donation in one lump sum quickly. It would also show that people aren't just 'talking' and saying they will donate to this cause. Anyone willing to put forth their contribution in the form of money please contact me via PM. I will provide the PayPal information. I can send you an invoice through PayPal for a 'manual' or something so that you are protected under PayPal. Be sure to send your email for me to PayPal invoice. Additionally, I will cover at my own expense the PayPal fees so that the final donation remains the full amount (PayPal takes a 2.9% cut).
[EVO 4G Android Development] jrdejavux:
steelh check your inbox!
[EVO 4G Android Development] texthetrex:
Sprint is sending me a new EVO w/o OTA updates

Today I talked with three customer service reps at Sprint and I went to the store. I finally convinced a customer service rep that I needed to run apps that require root access and that this was denied to me by the latest OTA update. Sprint is sending me a new EVO w/o the OTA updates (supposedly) via 2-day UPS.

I was polite to them, and I explained that it wasn't cool that they altered my phone without my knowledge (the description for the update only talks about 'improving wifi' etc.)

I think everyone should call Sprint and let them know that it wasn't cool to be changing fundamental aspects of the phone without the owner's knowledge. Sprint treated me right, and I like to think that Sprint will treat all of its customers right once it learns all the facts.

Of course I'll still pay $20 to the bounty.
[EVO 4G Android Development] wsantiagow:
$10.00

Count me in for 10.00!

Im already rooted with the latest 1.47.651.1 and the latest Wimax radio and all is working great!

I still want to contribute to these devs for all the hard and fun work they do.
[EVO 4G Android Development] SteelH:
That's very interesting. You admit to Sprint you want to root the phone, which voids your warranty. I'm surprised they even know what version anything is. I'll keep this idea in mind if my replacement comes with 1.47. I'd love to see Sprint get blasted with a couple hundred of these requests.
[EVO 4G Android Development] SteelH:
Added to the pot. Thanks.
[EVO 4G Android Development] chumba8:
ill add 20$

Yeah I messed my i/o evo up too even with root and nand unlocked I got hoses trying to upgrade safely so I called advanced tech support that number that Google gave u with the evo and they said a repair center could downgrade me back to pre OTA and I could stay that way and noted the account they don't want to replace the i/o phones as they are a bit different so they said to try that and that came from the superior so ill try it tomorrow but still put me down for 20$ and pm me to tell me how to pay now
[EVO 4G Android Development] SteelH:
Added to the list. Check PM. Thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] rjmjr69:
Ill throw up ten whats the info to send to
[EVO 4G Android Development] chumba8:
I paid my 20$ good luck
[EVO 4G Android Development] spinkteck:
ok first i need to know how can i donate? through what? paypal? please let me know and i will donate $10.00 when the new OTA gets rooted. sorry im new to all this
[EVO 4G Android Development] SteelH:
Added to the list. Check PM.
[EVO 4G Android Development] SteelH:
Added to the list, check PM.
[EVO 4G Android Development] h40:
I'm in

Put me in for $20 please. I'd be more than happy to help.
[EVO 4G Android Development] hdad2:
I'll add $20. $500+ so far...not bad. Thanks for doing this SteelH. The devs deserve it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] THunDA:
SteelH.. im already on the list for $20, send me a pm with info and ill send payment.:D
[EVO 4G Android Development] coopapi:
I've got $10 on it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] spinkteck:
yay paided my due :P
[EVO 4G Android Development] entropism:
For the record, I'd say 90% of the workers at Sprint have no idea what rooting is, and have NO idea that software updates break it. To say the least they're still android ignorant, but regardless they're not phone geeks. Nobody even knows about custom ROMs, for the most part.

As for the software updates, the new shipments certainly are coming with newer software versions, and with each EVO I sell, I ask if they're going to root. If they give me a blank stare, I update the software. If they know what rooting is, I cancel the update. Plain & simple.
[EVO 4G Android Development] SteelH:
All of this is true. The only problem is, we didn't all get you for our Sprint rep.
[EVO 4G Android Development] SteelH:
Added to list. Check PM.
[EVO 4G Android Development] entropism:
Can we work on this then? I could use the commissions. ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] SteelH:
Sure. Downgrade my phone. Would be nice if somehow you could flash these damn things like an EEPROM via JTAG.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Geniusdog254:
Wow you're a great rep lol. My in store guy was about like that, he talked to me about rooting, asked if I was gunna install FroYo, all that good stuff, but I don't think he woulda gone outta the way to make it rootable for me.

He did tell me to check out CrackBerry to hack my dad's new Blackberry lol
[EVO 4G Android Development] jrdejavux:
Lets get this baby rooted
[EVO 4G Android Development] peanutplanters:
Any chance you can get replacement unit for me faster than Radio Shack can? (also not updated with OTA)
[EVO 4G Android Development] CYBERxNUKE:
Dont recall where I read, but some one with a google I/o phone was told to take thiers to a repair center to have it downgraded back yo before OTA. not sure if it gives us hope for an htc premade downgrader or if the google support just said that to get the guy out of their hair.
[EVO 4G Android Development] chumba8:
Nope I called the sprint service department and they said if it was any other phone they could downgrade it but not the evo they dont have the software anc the I/O phone is the MOST likely to brick doing anything they said swap it out :( hope i get the old version
[EVO 4G Android Development] caveman663:
How do i get my name added to the donation list? Id like to put on for $10.
[EVO 4G Android Development] SteelH:
You are added to the list. Check PM.
[EVO 4G Android Development] gruen99sg:
add me

Hi anyone add me for ten
[EVO 4G Android Development] hdad2:
SteelH,

Can you PM so I can be added as well? Thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] SteelH:
Added to the list.
[EVO 4G Android Development] SteelH:
Added to list. Pm sent.
[EVO 4G Android Development] angelluis73:
Add me for ten.
[EVO 4G Android Development] chumba8:
yeah i agree any chance of you getting me a pre ota phone?
[EVO 4G Android Development] resdog70:
Count me in for $25

Please send me the info to make the payment.