yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] noiddroid:
I am very sorry this post is horrible and informative luckily the Rom is not done and yes it is a rom and right now it does suck. I might uage forgot to put a clock In there. Thank you for the critisimum next time my post will be a lot more informative.

-Noid
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] rulyskull:
thanks pal :D

thanks pal :D

haha i love copy paste
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] soraxd:
hello all, im looking to hire someone for what i believe to be a very simple mod. im very sick of the battery warning preventing me from using my camera and media player, i would like to either remove this warning all together, or just allow my camera and media player to work once my battery is below 20%.

if you think you could do this, please leave a reply or PM me, and well work out the details!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mdneilson:
I don't know about the media player, but you can use FXCamera to use the camera when low.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hebbe:
Hi!

I'm wondering if there's a 3d-task-switcher for the hd2. something similar to this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=391006

this cool app unfortunately is not for wvga devices, and the deveoper seems to have discontinued the development.

thanks for your hints :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shirreer:
"SEARCH" for Task Facade 4 in the win mo development forum... or the google search box upstairs!

Cheers
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hebbe:
ok, i should have been more precise in my opening post and say that i allready tried task facade and showroom. :D and you should have read a little bit more carefully :p ... i'm looking for a 3d task switcher like the app in the given link, not just for a task switcher. :):)

but thanks anyway, all tipps and hints are apreciated :D
[General Questions and Answers] Dandroids:
Just seeing if I can post on this forum, I keep getting errors about not being allowed to post links to outside websites - when my posts don't contain any links ??!
[G1 Android Development] tomatenjungee:
Hey guys,

since we know that full flash 10.1 won't work on our devices (or its an disproportionate act to port it, because its not open source and due to the fact that flash 10.1 is not meant g1's processor).

But what about flash lite (which we know is working on g1 from the sense ROMs)? I read that the froyo browser does accept plugins (well he accepts the flash 10.1 on capable phones).

So did someone tried to port it? I know this is not the major thing on froyo, its hard enough to get the rest working properly (and i really thank those devs for spending so much time on it!!!). Many people would love to see at least flash lite on our devices. And in my humble opinion little flash animations worked fine for me on the sense roms with flash lite.

I tried to install the flash lite apk on the froyo roms availlable ... but it returned only fc's for me in browser. By now i am not running froyo but i will put some rom on and try to get a logcat on it.

Greetings
[G1 Android Development] mblaster:
Crazy Idea: Why not make a port of an open source flashplayer (like lightspark) to ARM hardware?

[Yes, I know thats probably somewhere between inconveniant and impossible, but hey, it's a think tank ;) ]
[G1 Android Development] lbcoder:
MUCH MUCH BETTER idea. Certainly not impossible. In fact VERY POSSIBLE.

There are a few issues to work through in it though, certain dependencies on things like PULSEAUDIO, which we don't have on android (but would be nice if we did...)

There are actually THREE open source flash projects to work from.... gnash, swfdec, and lightspark. The first two are based on reverse engineering and tend to work. lightspark is from SPEC, is much NEWER, and really doesn't work yet. Lightspark is the best FOUNDATION, but is behind in FUNCTION.

Note: flash is a bad idea no matter how you look at it. You don't need it, it doesn't do anything USEFUL, I suggest just ignoring it. PURIFY! Let flash DIE!
[G1 Android Development] mblaster:
Yeah, HTML5 FTW!

Now that iCrap officially banned flash many sites will at least alternatively offer html5 support, because otherwise the iPhonies cry.

Most of the flash content is unwanted commercials anyway. I would hate going on some site and swoop away 5MB of my data plan (which gets downgraded to gprs speed if I get above 200MB/month) with some nagging commercial video... (€: OK, this could also happen with html5... would hate it anyway)
[G1 Android Development] wizern23:
well i know that if flash lite could be rid of its dependency on sense it would work. it has the correct settings to work . it has 2 different ways to enable flash while the flash 10.1 has only one of those. you would have to check the 2.1 port of 10.1 to understand what im talking bout. it might also need to be built on 2.1 or 2.2.
[G1 Android Development] tomatenjungee:
youre right ^^ the dependency of sense is the point which prevents flash for working on froyo out of the box in my opinion. I was thinking the problem of the non-sense (not nonsense lol) browser was, that it wasnt capable to use plugins. But it looks like that the whole sense framework has something to do with flash working on sense roms. Maybe some dev could take hand on that flash lite and compare it to how the flash 10.1 plugin interacts with froyo and the browser.

I aggree with all of you that flash might die and that there are better possiblities to create an active web ... but its a fact that its heavily used in the web (so with a dataplan youre not forced to use flash ... its just that i hear many ppl wanting it).

I dont wanna start a discussion about usability of flash -this is just about how to port it to froyo on g1 for ppl who like to see it :-)
[G1 Android Development] wizern23:
Well from the port thread over in the ego forum they found that both versions of flash have a similar plugin method for the browser. I will have to find it later.
[G1 Android Development] tomatenjungee:
Sounds interesting! I searched the thread but didn find it. If the method of linking the plugin to the froyo browser was similiar there might be a possibility to use the flash lite without the sense framework :-) i am curious to read that
[G1 Android Development] domenukk:
Has anybody tried to use not just only the flash.apk but also the libs that come in sense 2.1 roms?

because missing libs can well be the cause of force closes... ;)

alternatively we can wait until froyo comes out for sense phones like the hero...
[G1 Android Development] :
There was another [THINK TANK] for this.... it died. Hopefully this will, too.
[G1 Android Development] sidroc:
I tried modifying an APK to do this. I put the flash lite plugin in the flash APK and flashed on CM6.... Didn't work, their was no force closes, it did not even show up as a plugin.
[G1 Android Development] tomatenjungee:
the other think tank was on full flash/flash 10.1 for eclair ... this is / was impossible and not a very clever idea.

This is about porting flash lite which we know from sense roms works on our devices.

So thanks for youre lack of interest and your useless post ^^ ... so dont flame

that was what i experienced :/ maybe it has something to do with the libs and its not just enough that the froyo browser does takte plugins
[G1 Android Development] playingdoh:
didnt HTC just open a bunch of the Sence code?

i remember seeing a tweat about it... i think (maybe they opened something else?)

ill see if i can find the post and report back.
[G1 Android Development] maxisma:
Well, first it's called Sense. Second, it's just the kernel source for some devices..
[G1 Android Development] :
So sorry I almost came in the way of you and your porn.
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
What were you thinking, I mean, everyone knows Android phones are for porn.
[G1 Android Development] elf310:
usually i just watch and read, but when a so called senior member has nothing usefull to say but flaming someone who has an idea its pretty much pathetic. and where is the report post to moderator.
[G1 Android Development] :
Then how about you go back to just lurking before opening your mouth about something you clearly have no idea about? The fact that FLASH SUCKS and should have been gone a LONG time ago but it's still around is the only pathetic thing here. That's what I originally said, and that's what I'm saying now. Also, I'm sure most people will have no interest in this and it's most likely going to fail. Now, let those balls drop and man the hell up.
[G1 Android Development] Tony_SpaZ:
I don't know, flash videos and partially flash based sites seem like a good enough reason to try. Especially for porn. (You know, 'cause android phones are for porn.)
[G1 Android Development] gophergun:
Definitely. Flash is very much the standard for now, and I don't see that changing for some time. HTML5 is great for very basic video playing, but it gets hard to do things dynamically with it. Personally, I've been wishing I could watch the Daily Show on my phone. :p
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dandroids:
Whatever I post it tells me I'm posting a link, when I'm not!?!? HELP MOD, ADMINS etc?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dandroids:
ok, so I can post a message that says I can't post a message - but what I really want to do is talk about my G1 problem and I can't - I can appreciate the anti spam measures, but this is a bit tedious :(
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Aznneedlovetoo:
I don't understand this whole entire thread.

Please Mod, Admin, Etc.. etc..

Please close this thread :D
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dandroids:
Basically I was trying to post a problem about my G1 post upgrade - and it wouldn't let me post the message because it had an 'at' sign in the post, which the board thinks is me trying to post a link - because I'm new, I'm not allowed to post links.

Anyway, once I removed the 'at' sign it let me post it. See G1 Problem thread.
[Desire General] bungle2k3:
Hi, as I am not overly fond of the android operating system,

is the hardware such that you could flash a 6.5 windows mobile rom onto the desire?

is it worthwhile trying?
[Desire General] AndroHero:
It is impossible, android is open source and thus can be modified to run on diffrent hardware, windows mobile isnt, plus we have diff bootloaders to winmo phones so a flash wud be impossible
[Desire General] Aitese:
Do people literally NEVER use the search feature then?

How many people are going to post the same ridiculously foolish question?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=693158

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=697718

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=6731090

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=677930

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=675647

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=6183231

Use the bloody search.
[Desire General] bungle2k3:
its not a foolish question, i have been active on various sections of xda developers forums and have contributed and gained from each of them, tinkering with a variety of models, I was thinking of buying a desire but wanted to see just how much I can mess with it first .

I have found the majority of people on these forums to be helpful and whilst I understand your frustration, I will be new to this part of the site. And with so many threads its not always easy to find exactly what your looking for :o

What differs in the hardware to make it impossible? is it just partitioning of the space on the phone? surely if someone wrote a bootloader it would be possible?
[Desire General] Sideburnt:
If you want to dual boot, you might want to get a HD2 instead, my understanding is that the android rom is in developement.

The desire is pretty much a pure Anroid phone, im not sure that there would be much demand to get winmo workingon it since most people have switched from winmo out of choice and don't really feel the need to go back, but thats just my slant on it. crazier things have happened on this forum.
[Desire General] AndroHero:
For starters the drivers were written using the android open source project, every single driver for every tiny piece of hardware would habe to be rewritten lol
[Desire General] bungle2k3:
i have read your other posts and understand your frustrations but the whole reason I buy each model is to see how much I can mess with it

would be interesting to see such development in the ROM developement section

but if there is a technical reason why its impossible ( apart from the lack of SPL)

then someone please tell me, as I have not brought the handset yet hehe

what I always say is where there is a will there is a way

as for why ? i dont know... just to see if it can be broken - whats the point in having system you cant break or change Zzzzz

although I do appreciate somethings are impossible.

Can some one explain (if any) the differences in hardware from the hd2 to the desire that will make this task impossile ?

would be much appreciated xxx thanks
[Desire General] EddyOS:
I doubt it'd be impossible - but it's take a huge ammount of R&D and developers on here don't have that sort of time/money to undertake such a task...

Just get an HD2 if you want WinMo (can buy my old one if you want? ;) )
[Desire General] AndroHero:
The rock bottom is it wud be illegal, it would be in violation of microsofts intelectual rights and for that matter is neva gunna happen here, when we owned windows phones we bought a licence to use windows mobile, with our desire we get no such licence, this would also make it piracy
[Desire General] EddyOS:
With that argument surely baking and distributing custom ROMs would also be illegal? Do that on a Windows PC and you'd get sued!!

But yeah, agree with you
[Desire General] AndroHero:
Microsoft have tried to shut xda dwn for that reason many times, but they have always backed down, if a project lyk this was started on a non winmo phone i guarantee they wudnt
[Desire General] Aitese:
It is when it's been asked and answered multiple times. Being such a long standing XDA user you'd think you'd have had a gander at the rules by now or at least attempt to adhere to them.

The 6 posts I posted were found with a single search of "Windows Mobile, Desire" up in that search box you completely ignored. So, yes, it is easy...you just didn't even try.
[Desire General] Aitese:
Android is open source...Windows Mobile isn't.
[Desire General] atomfix:
I have seen many questions asking if windows mobile can be ported to the desire. But this post explains it better than any other why it can't.
[Desire General] EddyOS:
That's what I meant, Microsoft sueing chefs for distributing custom WinMo ROMs...I know Android doesn't matter :)
[Desire General] bungle2k3:
Aitese, I do understand your frustration, multiple posts are a no no yes, but I was putting a different slant on it. ie I didnt really grasp from the other threads technically what was stopping us from achieving this task :) so thats not stupid in my opinion and hasnt been broken down in major detail. My curiosity is that the HD2 and desire seem exactly the same in terms of hardware, yet people suggest that swapping operating systems is impossible.

however, I do now accept that it may not be worth doing

but none of the previous threads seem to explain why that is in any great technical detail (no doubt ul find this now haha), at least now we have discovered whats stopping some one from doing it.

ps I reserve all right to be a lazy noob, to my knowledge I have not broken any other forum rules, as this is not exactly a double post, similar subject yes but if anything this thread would save a curious person like myself from attempting something that might be infringement ..

at least now I wont try ;)
[Desire General] bungle2k3:
.. how much ; )

ps what varies from the desire to the hd2 in terms of hardware

looks like nowt :confused:
[Desire General] leroy:
love this thread!

ive been trying to get away from my touch HD to android - had to go via a free HD2 upgrade to get here......trust me, windows needs a major overall to tempt me to go back
[Desire General] bungle2k3:
thats what everybody says .. but my curiosity is that in terms of hardware specs the hd2 and the desire look the same, apart from a bit more ram on the desire ?!? :confused:

so... er ... why would the drivers vary that much ?

pls be patient with me I just like messing with stuff :D

on further playing with android I must say it does seem to have the edge over win mob
[Desire General] bungle2k3:
persisting with this annoying thread (sorry guys) but what is to stop me using mtty to format my device and flashing the hd2 stock rom to the desire?

ie what would the compatibilty issues be? (as by looks of it hardware is the same give or take a bit of extra ram)

could this be done, and would it just be a case of using a tweaked RUU that would ignore the model number? would this work?

I am guessing the buttons would have to be remapped but what other compatibilty issues would there be ? basically is it possible or is the file structure totally different in a way that would not allow it? :rolleyes:

(ps sorry if its something obvious and im making myself look a dummy but from what I can see the HD2 and the Desire are very similar in spec)
[Desire General] foxmeister:
I'd be exceedingly surprised if the Desires bootloader is even remotely compatible with MTTY, but if you want to give it a try knock yourself out! ;)

IMHO, worst case scenario you'll brick your phone, and best case you won't be able to connect using MTTY at all.

Regards,

Dave
[Desire General] SteveEdson:
Why would you want to? I came from 6.5 on my omnia, its terrible. If you dont like android, dont buy android.
[Desire General] bungle2k3:
hmmm sounds a big risk

in answer to Steves reply, I have got used to android, tbh after using android for a longer period of time the flaws in win mob really stick out. The only reason I want to do it is for experimental purposes, but it may prove an expensive curiosity

the curiosity comes from the fact that the HD2 and Desire are the same beast as far as specs go. So was curios as to weather it can be done, as surely if the hardware is identical it is possible.. I just like breaking any system I use, only reason I move on to a new model is to fiddle :rolleyes:

maybe I am just sad

... or at least I will be when my desire is dead :o
[Desire General] bungle2k3:
in answer to Daves reply ..is it poss to write the HD2 bootloader to the desire :eek:

if the hardware is the same wont the desire just think its a HD2 ?

I know thats its possible to write a athena x7501 bootloader to a x7500 as my friend did that by accident haha :o but that rendered his athena x7500 unusable

:rolleyes: ... but ignoring this whopping great big warning sign whats to stop the Desire thinking its a HD2 if the hardware is the same

... wait a minute, whats that old saying? curiosity killed the cat :D
[Desire General] DanTehManUK:
IMHO Dont even bother trying it, stick with Andriod!

if you were to try this i would reccomend buying a 2'nd hand Desire so you dont completly shaft your main desire during this process, if it works on that 2'nd unit and you can configure it to work near enough flawlessly etc, then consider yourself a Dev, thats why i had 2 G1's back in the day, and i think eventually i may have 2 Desires, just depends on the Recession and if i can be bothered to relearn things

These things arnt cheap you know :D

Having gone about from symbian>Windows>iOS>Android>iOS again>Android and everything inbetween, Android is by far the best system to tinker with and have fun with, so again IMO stick with Android!
[Desire General] bungle2k3:
the worst case scenario is that im gonna provide you guys with some entertainment :D

I wonder just how many "road closed" signs im going to drive past before I drive off that cliff ;)

.. I must admit tho, I am skint at the moment too ... but I prefer blowing things up to eating anyhow
[Desire General] foxmeister:
I think this is part of your problem.

The hardware *isn't* the same. Sure, they share many of the same components, but it seems very likely that they are "glued" together differently.

A Nexus One is far closer to a Desire in hardware terms than the HD2 is, and yet kernels and radios for the Nexus just won't work on a Desire and vice versa.

I'm not saying that any attempt to get WinMo onto a Desire is doomed to failure - it's just going to be an awful lot harder than getting Android onto an HD2 due to the closed source nature of WinMo.

Regards,

Dave
[Desire General] bungle2k3:
... in answer to Daves reply , THANKYOU XXX this is what I wanted

that was the bit I was curious about, that makes sense now

perhaps I shall leave well alone then :)

by the way I think I found a nexus rom for desire in my quest if anyones interested ill post up the link

ps anyone got broken desire they wanna sell ?
[Desire Themes and Apps] wonderstoat:
Hey

I have several apps which I am waiting for or would LOVE to see, so much so that I would pay for them. These include:

Tesco on-line shopping.

Amazon UK

Dominos Pizza UK (lol)

Independent.co.uk which downloads automatically every morning (a bit like the excellent Guardian Anywhere, which I can't praise highly enough)

Kindle - well, this has arrived and it's pretty good!

A proper official LOVEFILM app

A Windows Live/Hotmail app that properly synchronises read/unread messages/folders etc.

A widget to turn on data roaming, or to facilitate a quick sync of accounts when roaming and then turns off data roaming once its finished

A BBC weather app

Live wallpapers that reflect the current time of day/weather in a beautiful way ...

What sort of pet apps do you guys want to see?
[Desire Themes and Apps] Pictobug:
Not sure I'd necessarilly want to pay for them but I'd like these...

Amazon UK

A proper official LOVEFILM app
[Desire Themes and Apps] gazebee:
Video editing app
[Desire Themes and Apps] wonderstoat:
Yeah ... thinking about it now, I agree. I wouldn't want to pay for commercial apps like lovefilm/Tesco/Amazon ... they should make it easier for us to buy stuff from them, that should be payment enough!!! I would pay for thinsgs like Newspaper content though. I think that's fair enough ...
[Desire Themes and Apps] oursoul:
lol I was just about to say there's no chance I'd pay for an app for Tesco or the like :D

As for the news, have you tried the apk called Genie? Its the best news delivery I ever saw :)

Us Yahoo users just got treated to a Messenger and a Mail app so you MSN dicks might see something someday soon.

Weather I just want the Met Office to step up to the plate.. in fact I will email them right now!
[G1 Android Development] QTeknology:
Here's the SDK

http://dl.ophonesdn.com/sdk/OPhone-SDK-2.0Beta.zip

from this image I see something interesting !

I hope there's something useful inside this SDK

Let us informed, please =)
[G1 Android Development] Daneshm90:
I get a access forbidden :(
[G1 Android Development] joseangel.alv:
me too... but after retrying a couple times it downloaded :)
[G1 Android Development] Daneshm90:
Yay, i retried too, finally download :D

Status: Deodexing the framework followed by apps.
[G1 Android Development] OG:
I remember when people were calling BS at this... guess they've all been proven wrong?
[G1 Android Development] AnderWeb:
Seems that's just an sdk to build apps for specific phones, so that cannot help "general android" atm....
[G1 Android Development] Daneshm90:
K so theres a whole LOTTA depedencies in here. From their launcher to their non-launcher integrated apps, all have shared libs. :( I give up lol. For those wanting to give it a shot.

Download the zip. Extract it. Unyaffs system.img

Take framework/apps deodex them (use auto-deodexer)

Then try to figure out the dependencies. Btw, to deodex their launcher/home, u gotta add webwidget.jar to the classpath. Good luck :D
[G1 Android Development] jcarrz1:
yea ophone is a pain in the ass. search this thread for it, someone a long time ago (a year +) made a rom that actually booted, but it had messed up graphics. cool to play with though... but even so, it's hard to port. I've tried to port it myself, and gave up.