yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] andycsuc:
WM roms

I know some roms work better than others but are there really any advantages to having a "minimal" windows mobile rom to boot into android from? As far as I know haret wipes the running memory and boots linux so the size of the previous running OS should not matter, but I could be wrong. So far Android has been working good considering the known issues but for long term use I might look into using flashing a WM rom optimized for Android, just not sure which one or if it matters.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] memin1857:
Cyanogen RC2 based

Shubcraft CM6RC2 v1.0 by shubi is out:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=740963

Direct link:

http://rapidshare.com/files/410683789/shubCRAFT_v1.0_originalfonts.rar.html

It includes latest august 3 zimage and cyanogen mod rc2! You can't get any better android build for hd2 as of today. Try and see.

-read first two posts properly, it takes very long to boot for the first time and you have to change startup.txt with some sd cards.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Neolo:
Hey. Anybody see me? Android broke my WM rom, none of exe files are not starting now. What to do?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ALEXRUSS55:
I can CONFIRM that all of this is working, THANK YOU SO MUCH Cotulla!!!! sound quality is superb, the volume is much louder internal en external speaker.

And it also seems that android is booting and ruunning much faster, i can switch my sense screens like never before. ITS SNAPPY!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ketzazu:
Confirmation number: 3E304180T78844706.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] CPR123:
The latest Cotulla zImage fixed my biggest issue "audio". Now I can finally use the phone as a real phone because the audio is loud. The scrolling improved greately and is quite smooth. Now just waiting for the bluetooth issue on the Cyan ROM to be resolve.

Thanks to all the developers and donation is on the way.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] donkeypunch85:
Having issues with the new zimage. Got SOD a few times, running darkstone, then booted up fine, ran for about an hour before I had to go back to WinMo for some stuff. Tried booting again, no go. Keeps hanging up on the battery level readout. Tried removing and running other builds (dans froyo, desire, etc) using USB and card reader. Used bootup by mskip and JMZ, manually entered file explorer. nothing. Was fun while it lasted...

Miri v17.6/2.12.50.2_02
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] CleM71:
I got # too :)

Impressive progress, busybox is a good thing, kernel finishes to load ... with some little errors, but compass is already working, SD driver too, ...

The main problem now is to develop a driver for the touchscreen, then all the radio drivers (bluetooth, wlan, phone).

Huge work !

I <3 You Developers :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zappinggg:
Hi,

In the Thread 2 you put the screenshot

I have the same thing on my HD2 but i dont have the same finish!

Its write, android is rebooting in 5 seconds after that hd2 blocked

i add i have 2.08 radios

any idea?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] terminal 7:
a)- have you tried.. initrd-netripper-busybox.cpio.gz

b)- do you know how to edit the default.txt ( or rename files! )

c)- when you done you will be greeted by a ' # '

d)- yipeeee.. ( we are on the way to the goal )

:)=====PEACE=====:)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Sultan1993:
sorry, I'm not a developer, but I really would like to ask, what "#" mean? what possibilities does it open?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zstjohn:
im gonna go out on a limb here and guess it has something to do with command line.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] CleM71:
True. In our case, it's based on Busybox, witch is a very simple box including UNIX tools, for example grep, rm, df, touch, top, kill ...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] terminal 7:
ok

im no dev myself, just keen linux learner... but if i can try to explain ( someone will flame me if im wrong LOL )

*

/bin/sh; can't access tty; job control turned off

that would normally occur if linux was looking in the wrong place for setup files or may be if the files didnt exist, ..

*

and # is at the begining of a prompt - sometimes it will be $ .. ( i wont get into 'root' and the like now.. )

*

so you can imagine a very basic script would look like..

#!/bin/bash

echo "Hello World"

( bash is bourne again shell - not busybox but hey it illustrates the general idea )

*

so as we have learned the 'PANIC' is over and we have a working ( just ) kernel... :)

*
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Sultan1993:
so now you have working Kernel! at last ;)

and what's your next step?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zappinggg:
Thx for your answer!

i change my defaut.txt and i tried initrd-netripper-busybox.cpio.gz

and i have a # now

before the # its write: many line not found (like ifconfig, route not found ...)

/bi/sh: cant access tty...

After that what can i do?

thx
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] CleM71:
Well, just for laugth :D I just tried to boot Eclair from Topaz (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=621498) using their initrd :D

Welcome to Vogue Linux

Running an fsck on the SD card

Segmentation fault

Segmentation fault

Cleaning up...

Switching to rootfs...

Rootfs loaded.

Checking for partition...

Creating a new Data store

256+0 records in

256+0 records out

[...]

[...]

[...]

ext2fs_check_if_mount : No shuch file or directory while determining whether /sdcard/data.img is mounted. ????????????????????????

[...]

[...]

OS type: Linux

[...]

[...]

Freezing at

This filesystem will be automatically checked every 30 mounts or 180 days, whichever comes first. Use tune2fs -c or -i to override.

So ... What is this reference to data.img ?

EDIT :

init successfully finishes with

exec switch_root /rfs /init

witch starts rootfs.

Then I have to find a data.img file ...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tids2k:
@ dcordes please have a look at the leaked build for samsung moment here its 2.1 :o and its not out yet . you might get some drivers if required --- >

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=D953ND25

also i saw somewhere the incredible rom leak do u have it or should i look for it and paste the link here ... cheers.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] xmoo:
Lukas, I got some roms that might be interested for you.

Holla @ me on msn.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tids2k:
xmoo .. can yu share here ... or are they private ?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] xmoo:
a.t.m. private
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] xaoc747:
Starting and again freezing again..........
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mooooooa:
Dcordes, what's about the dates??

03/24/2010 compass working, battery monitor added

03/26/2010 moved to new htc-msm-2.6.32 branch

03/29/2010 don't use ondemand governor

04/01/2010 add ext3

04/05/2010 dex, rtc, battery monitor, merged with google updates

08/05/2010 naming and pm changes, timer problem is fixed (other low level problems still exist)

09/05/2010 memory remapped

First: 3/24 = 24 march.

But then: 9/05 = 9 may ? We're only at 14 april now :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] imtiyazee:
Dcordes,

03/24/2010 compass working, battery monitor added

03/26/2010 moved to new htc-msm-2.6.32 branch

03/29/2010 don't use ondemand governor

04/01/2010 add ext3

04/05/2010 dex, rtc, battery monitor, merged with google updates

08/05/2010 naming and pm changes, timer problem is fixed (other low level problems still exist)

09/05/2010 memory remapped

[/QUOTE]

I have a question for Dcordes, sorry for my ignorance if I'm sounding foolish.

Looking at the above progress, one can think that things are working but at a primitive stage, but WORKING. When I'm trying to boot with the given files, i never succeeded freezes at certain point randomly. Can someone explain how one can judge things like compass working etc when we can't pass the freeze problem.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] fracmo2000:
My first WM phone was the x1, just as I got my hd2 ang a clever guy called fatsal got a build of android running on the phone

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=609463

So this gave me a taste for android...it seems nice to use. Honestly cant wait till you get a working build on the hd2...it will be the best droid phone in world (well, maybe except the evo...but we aint getting that in the uk anytime soon)

I remember you were looking for a data sheet for the touchscreen used in the hd2...did you ever get this? If not, why not post up the things that you need to find in post 1? It would mean we all use our searching skills as a groupd and see what we can come up with?

On a similar note, we could bombard manufacturer of the screen we emails until the give in :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zarathustrax:
The request for the datasheet is in the first post. He's been doing a good job keeping the first post updated.

Also keep in mind that new phone are constantly being released. By time a good copy of android is working on the hd2, I'm sure there will be several phones around that are as good or better than the specs of the HD2, so saying it will be the best android phone probably won't be true. It will, however, probably be the best WinMo phone that can boot android. Personally, I find that more appealing as I will still be using WinMo the majority of the time.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dcordes:
updated the Image with latest patches.

lol thanks for the hint with the dates. american date format keeps driving me crazy.

facmo we will fix some TS driver sooner or later. first we need to get the stupid problem with the segfaults fixed. really messing me up. I wanna boot nice things on this phone and nobody knows what we can try.

really hope cr2 will have some idea when he's back.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] domineus:
I so love the report button =)

as far as communication with the main guys have the talks led to any interesting developments for our chipset?

What about soliciting of other chefs for android? quite curious
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Break333:
This is a work in progress. It has not yet been done and will take sometime. Please read the first post. If you would like to see it faster or to contribute to this project you can always donate..

Cheers man, and welcome to the forum
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dcordes:
So I added a link to the kernel building howto in the first post in case you want to roll your own like eatm0rewaffles
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] eatm0rewaffles:
Thanks!

Decordes:

Thank you for doing that! I appreciate your work! And sadly i have set my hd2 down until a working port of android comes out (bought a nexus one). And would like to give developing a try I miss it already except wim mo... Thanks for your work.

*buys you beer*

Cheers mate

I will work on cooking s/g up in the way of android, i used to make my own ports for it.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nick310:
omg! i just played with the evo4g, and i love it!! hopefully we can make some progress soon, I would love to have android on my hd2 :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dcordes:
Maybe you are right except for one thing.

All of the development information is publicly available. So what you are trying to accuse us of makes no sense - maybe in your reality which unfortunately seems to be limited to negativity if one take a look at your previous posts. Poor guy.

If you want to promote my mission of harvesting for donations, find my PayPal in the sig.

Cheers
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zstjohn:
hahaha burn.

good call putting android in the title. i was gonna suggest that.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] akilleez1:
Great work

Just curious if it would help there is an article over at ppc.com that has the evo all the way tore down. If interested let me know I will go find it again
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] scrizz:
Yay, they finally Stickied the Thread!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Sheraz150:
Played with an evo today..and android looks amazing on a 4.3 inch screen. Really hope we can get this ported soon, been waiting for so long lol. Keep up the good work devs!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] BumAround:
Well said! :D

Bitter people SUCK
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Nimche:
This is sticky now, Thanks Mr. Mod/
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Zepiii:
Haha true, but I directly saw it, and thought they were a big progress :D

Second time that my heart was beating so fast :D

Dcordes, keep up the hard work !!

Thank you & See you.

Zepiii.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ForceField:
Just I have a question to ask.

I see that the problem is the driver for the screen.

Can HTC make one or give us one?

This can speed up everything
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] terminal 7:
hey??

what a great idea !! while we are at it we can just ask for a fully ported android build to run on the hd2!!!

ok sorry for the sarcasm but if it was as easy as just asking htc the problem wouldnt exist..

you see htc made the hd2 for windows mobile and when peter chou (htc) gave steve balmer (microsoft) the device there would have been agreements that the device remained a microsoft o/s device, this is why htc came up with the evo4g for android, ..

but if i can be proven wrong i would be a very happy person ! :)

:)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Oberoth:
HTC COULD make one, yes.

BUT: they never ever make a driver for a phone which is sold for a complete diffrent OS only for a community.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dude0014:
WM 6.5 sucks for medical students. None of the medical apps are properly designed for a touch interface, so they are next to useless on the HD2. Don't know why I bought it now. Was hoping for WP7 atleast later on, but MS changed their mind apparently :(

Android is my only hope..thanks devs
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] agp64:
Great to see this is a sticky now.

Hope we see a full working version soon.

Keep up the good work dcordes.:)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tids2k:
@dcordes your hardwork is bringing some fruit. how are the discussions going on with the qualcomm guy. any joy yet. i'm sute you are hiding that extra zweet discussion ffrom us. cheers buddy, endevours from me and all the best. the touch problem seems like have been solved. hope you will telease an alpha version soon. catch you soon on irc. good luck.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ForceField:
When first I bought my HD2 this is because I heard that it will be upgraded to WP7.

But Microsoft seems to do not care about us anymore.:mad:

The Evo 4G has specs pretty similar to the HD2 but it will not be sold in my country because we do not have a 4G network.Besides his price is just like the HD2 and buying an EVO for us HD2 users is like buying an HD2 again (well with a better camera anyway)

I don't care about the names of the 'Dealers' and for me it's like being betrayed by Microsoft itself after their announcement so why shouldn't we betray her also.

HTC can easily do it and we are not asking a new OS but a simple driver.

Anyway,I just want to thanks all the Devs on this project
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Neolo:
Look this guys forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=129645 I have such problem while running android today. Anybody else? How to solve that without hard reset?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Chitown021:
I started having a lot of SOD issues when I flashed the Miri 17.6 rom. Per advice a few pages back I switched to energy rom and it's all but eliminated the problems for me.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] stealthdragonb:
can someone put a link up for the new zimage, searched the first page but i couldn't find it.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Chitown021:
Post #4 under "Useful Sites" there's a link to the latest Zimage files.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Kilroy672:
I just simply use this page...http://cotulla.pp.ru/leo/Android/
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] donkeypunch85:
Same Radio? Havent really had the SOD problem. Just the two or three times. Its just the problem of it sticking at the part where it reads the battery info. something like "56% 420mah bla ba bla" But now its doing it with all builds. Not a big fan of Energy ROMs though... Hopefully Ill get this figured out tonight. Its also saying no rootfs found but I believe Ive seen that before and still booted no problem. Its like Im missing a file or a command but Im not.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] songokussm:
thats not possible. something else did it. the only fix i know of is to reinstall your wm rom.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Julian713:
Quick question:

Which is the best WinMob ROM to fix audio probs in Android (I know about the new zImage and all but just btw the winmob roms does it matter?): Energy or Chucky

Should you upgrade your radio from .10 to .12?

Thank you.

EDIT:

Is anyone having it work perfectly with the Energy ROM and Radio .10?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] j3.cole:
Pairing Bluetooth headset... problem no keypad appears for the four zeros. When I force the key pad from the menu button I still see nothing to confirm the pairing code. . Using the cm6 android build. Any ideas? Thanks in advance

Found the answer duh "Search"- Bluetooth finds other devices but can not be paired

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=739755
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Chitown021:
Yeah I use the same radio as you (2.12). I've used both the Darkstone Froyo and now the Cryogen RC2 and they work flawlessly w/ energy. I'm not too crazy about it either but it seems to be a solid foundation for droid.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] aenedor:
Cotulla's latest zimage

I just popped Cotulla's latest zimage on my HD2.

Setup is as per my sig, with the addition of a system.ext2 with a update for GPS and I use JMZ dual boot.

Rebooted to windows mobile.

Deleted old zimage from android folder and copied new one in.

Restarted phone and booted android.

Got white screen of death.

Popped battery out, restarted phone, locked up loading windows.

Popped battery out, restarted phone, booted android.

SUCCESS!!!

On lock screen phone sleeps after perhaps 10 seconds inactivity, pressing end call button wakes phone up and takes me back to lock screen.

Once through lock screen phone sleeps after approx 1 minute inactivity, pressing end call button wakes phone up and takes me back to lock screen.

Initial verdict - looking good.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Neolo:
That's already happend with me before, in that case and today I have problem with running exe files in WM only after using one of android builds.

TMO US official rom, unloked by code.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kingfisher1111:
Just donated

I just donated to Cotulla after his amazing work on latest Zimage work

Confirmation number: 7FD85498R4621702K. An email with your donation details has been sent to and you

can print your donation receipt.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bangsters:
using chucky with 2.12 o tmobile US. no echo wih latest zimage and no robotic voice. :)

hope his helps
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] stealthdragonb:
for those using the latest zimage how are you finding the battery life now after some use. would you say that it has better battery life and performance than the 23rd zimage file?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] DashDaKidd:
Id say that the battery life has greatly improved. I was just on a phone call for about half an hour with wifi and 3g on as well as full battery and max brightness plus been playing with it for about 3 hours and it has dropped to 82% so 18% drop in about 4 hours with all settings up not bad compared to the 23 where I would get about a 4% drop every 10 minutes which is about a 24% drop each hour.

Great job!!! donating now
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] xanderdad:
I'd also say battery life is as good, if not better than the 7/23 build. I am using setcpu for a screen off setting as well. Been on this build for about 5 hours and I don't have a single complaint.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mattfmartin:
No lag at all using swype with the new build
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hendr1k:
honestly after couple week using android, I know why they call it HD2 :) its just amazing , really fast, my friend all jealous looking at my HD2,

all thanks to cotulla who made this happen, Thank to you donating to you soon :D

cheerz
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] NickPP:
FANTASTIC. I have Energy ROM with radio 2.12.50.2 and I am using darkstone froyo and just installed the zimage (latest) and booted to Android with absolutely no SODs whatsoever. My voice on the other end is crystal clear and so is the person's I am talking to.

My MP3 voice, etc. has shown no obvious increase in volume but that is OK.

Also, this thing is flying at the speed of light.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] CaliCL9:
i keep gettin this message pop up now that i installed the new zimage...

"the process android.process.acore has stopped unexpextedly. please try again"

what do i do?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Wrathlon:
Delete the data.img and reboot. This WILL wipe out your data though so backup using Titanium Backup first.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Bakedbread:
amazing....

ive been waiting for a new zimage to fix the in-call background noise issue and IT IS FINALLY HERE

I LOVE YOU COTULLA

im firing up paypal to donate now

i can finally use android FULLY

the last thing is a bootable ROM

BRING US TO THE PROMISED LAND , DEVS!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Rubanzip:
Please tell me where is the latest cottulas

zimage
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] cezzarmicu:
new zimage worked wonders on the in-call volume... Cotulla's a real genius!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] stealthdragonb:
question answered 1 or 2 pages back with a link
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Annashmi:
I need some help

Some games like hero of sparta, Dungeon hunter, and sandstorm are not working after installation I think they need more ram. How can I fix this problem, how much ram are we using here, and how can I make it more. Is true that zimage here using only 256 and not 380 or more
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] stealthdragonb:
been using android with the latest zimage and noticed that battery has improved slightly for me. was downloading update for nova with wifi on for about 20min and then exited since nova once again didn't work and then lost around 9% in 20min which still isn't that good but is getting better and better.