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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] mileskb:
I was finally able to find and downloaded 4.1 from RapidShare

http://rapidshare.com/files/37869392...ile.v4.1.0.CAB

It appears to be legit... I did have to restart the phone after install, and it's been working fine on my Tilt 2
[HTC Aria General] Shodan5150:
What size are the wallpapers on the Aria? I want to make my own wallpapers and make them so they move when you change home screens. So I know they can't be 320 x 480. Thanks
[HTC Aria General] gtg465x:
640x480 is the proper size
[HTC Aria General] Shodan5150:
I forgot to ask, what file format can I use?
[HTC Aria General] glitterbug:
use the PNG format
[HTC Aria General] Shodan5150:
Somethings not right. I downloaded several pics, made them 640x480 and put them on the sd card as both jpg and png. I get a message the pix has been set as my wall paper but when I go to my home screen it did not change. Any ideas?
[HTC Aria General] Shodan5150:
Ok. I tried setting the wallpaper thru the photos app and it worked.kinda strange it wont work thru the personalize setting.
[HTC Aria General] ryan92084:
i just made a folder on the sd card called wallpapers and put a couple of 2560x1600 jpg wallpapers in and the personalize options worked just fine. if even lets you select the area and scale that the phone will use out of the bigger picture. Same with the lock screen.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] msn0005:
Delete please!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] crabby09:
But I do have a problem with headphones! The volume level is so low and music feels 'dull' on my Shure SE310s. :-(

Crabby
[Galaxy S I9000 General] nicoloco:
Oh yeah ... I agree with that

When I use the headphone I can't hear the people I am talking to

Is there a way to boost the volume ?

Especially with this kind of headphone ... the sound should be quite good
[Galaxy S I9000 General] distortedloop:
Several other threads about this. You need to check/cycle the TV out setting in the Settings for the phone, should clear you up on sound output, but 3rd party headsets won't do voice calls. :(
[Android Apps and Games] devonkosa:
Okay, so I just joined the rooting world, and now I'm having just a little problem... I installed DarchDroid v2 on my Sprint Hero, and it is a AMAZING ROM so far, and I look forward to discovering more roms, and hopefully I become more knowledgable about rooting and android over time, and I don't know how to get all the stuff (market, gmail, maps, ect.) onto the phone, i have the .apk files on my memory card, I just don't know how to install them to the device. Please, someone help me! Thank you in advance!
[EVO 4G General] Hrshycro:
Why couldn't it be more like the Palm Pre? I mean even my jailbroken iphone could pull off some multitasking that looked damn close to the pre.

I think the biggest thing I hear about android is it's got real multitasking (which works and I love), but I don't see why they couldn't make it better, or at least better looking. It's based on linux and there are some pretty snazzy graphics out there for that.
[EVO 4G General] sfox8:
Personally, having used the jailbroken multitasking solutions on previous iPhones I didn't find them that great or graceful. The Palm Pre is still the king of multitasking hands down.

Android is working on it. Gingerbread will bring an improved UI with more flashy animations/graphics. For now, holding down the Home button is an acceptable method.
[EVO 4G General] Hrshycro:
I found one or two apps for my old iphone that looked damn close to the pre, and worked pretty damn good on my 3g.

I know 3.0 is going to be a UI revamp, but who knows if the evo will ever get it. ;(
[EVO 4G General] Mecha2142:
If you haven't already, purchase Powerstrip. It's one of the most useful Android apps ever.

[YOUTUBE]Akkbffs7mKw[/YOUTUBE]
[EVO 4G General] SilverStone641:
sidenote, i dunno if i'm just retarded or what, but i installed power strip and i am unable to get the shortcut to work. i have it set to a double tap of the home screen. nothing happens when i do this. what am i missing??
[EVO 4G General] biggggant:
I think you're supposed to double click the home button
[EVO 4G General] acrh2:
What's wrong with Android multitasking?
[EVO 4G General] PLESTIUC:
^ this

I don't get it, OP
[EVO 4G General] marctronixx:
neither do i. i would like a explanation what the evo is not doing.

you compare the pre to be the king of multitasking? windows mobile (touch pro2 which is with me daily in addition to my evo) multitasks beautifully and so does android in my experience with android (hero from launch day and win mo since 2002). just the other day i was on a call , was updating some apps and using tapatalk on a forum. i even had lookout scanning the apps as they were installing.... (4G area). phone did not hiccup... stock non rooted. thats multitasking to me...
[EVO 4G General] braiden79:
I use MultiTask Manager, and it's totally configurable and display the following:

- Running Apps

- Recently closed apps

- Fav Apps

Also you can hide apps that you don't want to see, max number of apps, background and much more.

I have the icon on my main screen

Is free.
[EVO 4G General] k2snowboards88:
It sounds to me like the op is only concerned with how asthetically pleasing multitasking is. The fact that android doesn't have the pretty cards animation that the webos and jailbroken iPhones have means it sucks. That seams silly to me. Wanting nicer animations is fine, but saying that multitasking sucks because of the lack of these animations is silly.
[EVO 4G General] acrh2:
If that is the case, then the OP doesn't understand the design philosophy behind Android multitasking.

1) All apps are loaded into memory from the get go.

2) Task managers are unnecessary, just pick whatever app you want to switch to, and start it to switch to it. Hence the last 6 used apps menu when holding down the home key.

In a sense, Android multitasking is intended to be superior to any other implementation - there's no need to be even thinking about it. It just does its thing.
[EVO 4G General] donatom3:
I like multitasking on Android way better than the Pre. First off it works without me having to worry about what's open, second I never get an error telling me to close apps even though no cards are open. Third it just works on Android. palms system is nowhere near stable yet, and backgrounder on iPad has closed apps so often that multitasking was bad.
[EVO 4G General] carlos64030:
I as well fail to see a problem with Android's multitasking abilities.
[EVO 4G General] DraginMagik:
same....OP please elaborate.
[EVO 4G General] steb0ne:
I understand what the OP means... I have BOTH and the Pre DOES BEAT Android in multitasking capabilities.... I'll give u an example

On my Evo, I use Tweetcaster a lot...let's say I need to open up ZumoDrive and share something... I hit home, then open programs then open up ZumoDrive... If I wanna go back to where I was prior (Tweetcaster, looking at a persons profile), I hold the home button...and select Tweetcaster from the recently used apps, and it reopens the app from scratch, forgetting about where I was previously. That's just 1 example (that I happened to think of right now, but there's others) Another would be, try downloading a mp3 from the web browser and playing it...then switch apps... The song stops (unless u play it from the music player)

And the problem with the jab at WebOS saying well, you don't get too many cards errors in Android; well wouldn't exist b/c well for 1, the Evo has a 1GHZ processor and 512MB Ram... Compared to my original Pre (non plus) with much slower CPU; that's a no brainer that the Evo would be able to handle the tasks more effectively, (yet the GPU performance on the Pre is better, go figure)

But, it does sound like the OP was referring more to the way it looks... while, I don't care what it looks like... I just want it to work better.
[EVO 4G General] acrh2:
I agree with the mp3 thing. It's annoying. I think there must be better mp3 players out there.
[EVO 4G General] halorin:
Try Quickdesk. You won't be disappointed.
[EVO 4G General] berardi:
Yeah I've experienced that problem with the mp3 player. I've noticed it varies from App to app. The standard music app will stop sometimes, as does Xiialive - but Last.fm app seems to be extremely stable - never had it stop regardless of what I was doing. I don't think there's anything wrong with holding the home button - it works nicely but I am more concerned about how programs function while in the background. As I mentioned it seems to vary from program to program, and the are said to be revamping the standard music program, so I guess we can keep our fingers crossed.

I doubt it will be much work to fix but I agree, they need to step it up a notch in this respect.
[EVO 4G General] Minjin:
But that isn't a good example because that isn't what should happen with the current paradigm. I've left countless programs and come back to exactly the same spot when I return. Something else is going on there. How many programs are you using in between these two? Are you waiting a bunch of time? Maybe Android closes out programs after a certain period of inactivity.

This one confuses me. I can play music with something other than the music player and switch apps without the music stopping no problem.

If I were to offer one easy change to the current UI, it would be to put a little circle or star on the icons next to the programs that are still processing in the recent apps list. That's the only issue I can see. I can't tell which ones on that list are closed and which ones are still open.
[EVO 4G General] steb0ne:
Nope, no waiting or anything... Try it urself. Download Tweetcaster, open it up and for example look at one of the profiles ur following... Then press home and open another app... Then go back to Tweetcaster holding the home button to bring it up from the recent apps list.

Also in regards to the mp3's playing... try downloading this: http://bit.ly/dkrTNS

from the browser and then press play from the notification bar once it's completed the download... then try and switch to another app.

Mine stops everytime... One thing I do like about WebOS is that if you click a link that has media, u have the option to stream or download it (and it plays in a separate card)... Like I can let a youtube video play in the background if I just want to hear the audio (although, battery life sucks)
[EVO 4G General] acrh2:
I just downloaded Meridian, and sure enough, it does work just fine. The default android music app is kinda wonky.
[EVO 4G General] steb0ne:
So, when u download a file from the web browser, it plays in Meridian? Interesting... I'll have to download that.
[EVO 4G General] berardi:
Yeah I agree. I don't think it's the OS, I think it's the programming of individual programs, how they perform in multitasking situations.

That said, it's far from a good excuse - Music is the place where Android needs to make its stand vs Apple. Yes there are 3rd party apps that beat the iphone, but the standard user is not gonna bother with all that, and personally I don't think we should have to for something as simple as music.
[EVO 4G General] steb0ne:
Well, I think that's the problem!!! It MAY BE the programming of individual programs...but that's what bothers me. Why can't they all work the same way? That's kinda whack that we have to rely on apps to be programmed a certain way to better handle the multitasking.
[EVO 4G General] Minjin:
I think Sense might be what is screwing up here. I just tried the music issue described above and Sense ended up force closing which is the first time I've ever seen that happen. A little OT, but I wish someone would do up a post detailing the exact differences between vanilla 2.1 and sense 2.1 so I (and probably others) can decide if it is worth switching or not.
[EVO 4G General] omegatyrant:
I agree. Quickdesk is an amazing beta product. I keep my twitter and facebook widgets on there. It's like having a hidden homescreen that you can pull up from any running apps.
[EVO 4G General] halorin:
I keep the big ChompSMS widget on there, the Text Only Mixzing Widget, Camera, and shortcuts to my most commonly used apps (Facebook, Dolphin, etc.).

Basically you set it as your default launcher and within its own configuration screen you set the launcher you normally use. If you double tap Home, it slide out a one page launcher screen that you can add shortcuts and widgets to.

What's nice about this is I can be surfing the web, double tap home, hit next to go to the next song, hit back and never leave Dolphin. I haven't noticed any slowdown in resources, and I think it's a better solution than the dockbar application someone mentioned before because it's a) free and b) you can add shortcuts to folders anyway.
[EVO 4G General] clockcycle:
Holding the Home key down to get the menu of the last 6 things you ran doesn't work for ya?

I too do not understand what you mean the problem with Android Multitasking is.. Or are you referring to how it allows you to "Task Switch"?

-CC
[EVO 4G General] gsx62391:
I actually dont really recall "android" boasting about multi-tasking,But I do hear the "Motorola DROID" commercials talking about being able to multi-task.

Either way, i came from the pre, and at first i missed the cards too, but soon after i did a test on how fast it took me to open five cards and then go back to each one in reverse order on my evo and on my old pre and i opened and revisited all five apps almost six times in a shorter time than it took me to just even open those five apps up on the Pre, let alone revisit them.so i think its a fair trade off. it may not be as fluid but the time it takes to search and open an app on the Evo compared to just opening that app on the Pre does not make it a deal breaker.I could probably open every app in my catalog and close them all before you can even get google maps to open up once on my Palm Pre, and that was overclocked to 800mhz.
[EVO 4G General] nolageek:
Because if the developer writes the program in such a way that when it re-starts it doesn't leave off where it was - how is that the OS's problem?

Why do you think so many iPhone apps are being re-written to be OS4 compatible? It's mostly for this very reason.
[EVO 4G General] -shift-:
you beat me to it lol.
[EVO 4G General] Minjin:
I think the issue is that it shouldn't close in the first place. It should be a switch (i.e. alt-tab) not a restart.
[EVO 4G General] steb0ne:
So, that doesn't explain why apps on WebOS don't do this... Nothing has/had to be rewritten for WebOS apps to truly multi tasks from day 1. I wouldn't say it's the OS's problem, but just the way the OS handles them... For instance, let me open 10 apps and not use the 1st one I opened for a while...why doesn Android have to decide which apps to close, if I don't close them... Those same 10 apps in WebOS will sit there until I do something with them.

.... And THAT'S THE REASON iOS4 doesn't REALLY MULTI-TASK

Exactly
[EVO 4G General] berardi:
Honestly I think Windows Mobile did this better than anyone else, lol
[EVO 4G General] sfox8:
Because then you suffer extreme lag, overheating and a host of other issues that come with running 50 million apps in the background without bothering to close them. Then you would be complaining about why Android is so slow and laggy when you try to run all the apps in your app menu at once.

It's a tradeoff. Android closes apps with low priority when it runs low on memory so that you don't have to deal with considerable lag when trying to do something important. What if you were playing a 3D game, browsing the internet and listening to music, as well as sending emails, texting, had youtube paused in the background, and had some other apps running all in the background. Suddenly an emergency comes up and you need to make a call to someone really quickly. But you need top open up your contacts menu and scroll through a hoard of contacts, THEN click on that contact, THEN click on the call button, THEN wait for the phone to call them. Android makes this easier by killing low priority apps like games, youtube, music, etc so that you can do this without too much trouble.

People don't always close things when they're finished with them. Android only does this in low memory situations, it's not like it does it all willy nilly. And unless the app is programmed poorly (or programmed to close whenever you leave the app) then you shouldn't have too much to worry about.
[EVO 4G General] steb0ne:
LoL! If I had a 1Ghz processor and 512MB Ram, on my Pre... I could just swipe up to pause whatever app I was currently in, and start typing the contact name and call them (in ur scenario (all those steps aren't needed)... problem is, the 1st Pre only has 256MB Ram and slower cpu, so it's kinda laggy regardless. So, unless I overclock the Pre and run some custom kernel, I'd have this problem with a few apps that just use lots of memory anyway, lol.

But, isn't that how computers work anyway? If you want to run 50 programs at one time, expect some lag unless your hardware can handle it... So, I expect the same thing on a mobile device....don't want the lag when running lots of apps, close some of them... seems easy enough to me...

I want to determine which apps are low priority...not my OS
[EVO 4G General] halorin:
There are, to my knowledge, applications like this in Android. So...
[EVO 4G General] driguez:
Ah you want eye candy i see. There's nothing wrong with Androids multi tasking, at all. Comparing it to backgrounder on the iphone? Lmfao.

Sent telepathically via my Evo.

-_-
[EVO 4G General] sfox8:
In that case, it's up to personal preference. Personally, I have no problem with Android closing apps for me when I don't need them. Chances are if I haven't used them in so long that I've actually opened up enough apps to slow my phone to a crawl, then I probably wasn't going to open them back up anyway. The only thing where I could see this mattering much is games but then again a lot of games save your progress/position/record automatically anyway. These aren't RPGs, i'm not losing much.

I understand the desire to control all of your open/closed apps, but I like knowing that I don't HAVE to worry about monitoring my open apps but that if I NEED to for some reason, I can do that as well with a task manager.

Aesthetics is a moot point if we're talking about functionality. Aesthetics are supposed to improve in the next version with the acquisition of the WebOS lead guy.
[EVO 4G General] engagedtosmile:
Hate to point it out but Android is capable and does a lot more than WebOS. The multi-tasking is nice but WebOS is very bland to me. Android goes deep and is doing a lot of things at once all the time.

Load up autostarts and go through the list of all the things the phone launches just when it firsts starts up. Seriously. Android multi-tasking is impressive for what this hand-held device does on a daily basis.

I don't see how its a bad thing that Android provides the API to enable background running or not for apps. Android is about choice. If developers want their apps to restart when they are switched, then its their choice. If they want it to run in the background, its their choice.
[EVO 4G General] sfox8:
And therein lies the OP's problem.

To the OP: You're complaining about something that the developers dictate, not the Android system. Android will leave apps open in the background if they're programmed to do so (unless it runs low on memory then it will kill apps according to priority to free up space for the processes it NEEDS to run). If the developer programs it so that the app closes when the user leaves, then that's just how it is. Either report to the developer or just accept it. Some apps don't really NEED to run in the background anyway. The system is just trying to make things easier for the user, only when necessary. If you want to manage your own apps then there are plenty of task managers that can be used.

Edit: For the record, I'm saying this with good intentions. Just trying to shed some light on the situation for you.
[EVO 4G General] steb0ne:
I honestly don't care how it looks...it's actual apps running that I'm talking about... There's processes and such that run in the background in every OS.

Also, please explain what Android is "more capable" and "does a lot more than WebOS" mean... The only advantage I've seen is hardware related (and that's b/c of the different hardware vendors) and the LACK OF DEVELOPMENT (and I think that's b/c it has such a bad rep and immensely unpopular)

Me personally, I love Android and my Evo... just pointing out what I don't like about it.... (Like, why would "Settings" show up in ur recent apps list? It's not an app!?!?)
[EVO 4G General] engagedtosmile:
You answered your own question. When I played with WebOS, it seemed like a whole lot of nothing going on. Apps are not Androids strong point but in comparison to WebOS...I'll take Android.

Also, settings is an activity. If you are really bothered by it, you should take some time to learn how Android works with multi-tasking.
[EVO 4G General] steb0ne:
Huh? That didn't answer the question... What does Android do better than WebOS? It's more capable how? Having MORE apps? The quality of apps are BETTER (while there's fewer) on WebOS compared to Android...and I'm very familiar with how BOTH WORK...not that I'm really bothered by it, but how does that help multi tasking (when ur already limited to the "last 6 items" u used) when we're talking about apps?
[EVO 4G General] engagedtosmile:
You're not limited to the last 6 items you have used. That is just a list of shortcuts. It multitasks everything you open in Android. Everything. If you look at iOS and Fast App Switching, it is essentially what Android has had since launch when you launch that menu, but that isn't all its doing.

What does WebOS do better than Android? Like I said before, WebOS didn't seem to have a lot going on. It seemed like a very app-centric OS but very little apps. Android is set to sync your contacts, calendar, Facebook, twitter, news, weather etc in the background. Each one of those will also dive into a service so it shows up in the respective apps. That is just an example and it comes stock, not including anything that you may install that could also use these services. You say you have experience with both, care to explain how WebOS does more than Android?
[EVO 4G General] stoney05:
Why would I care about the last 6 things I ran. There are widgets on the homescreen for that. I wanna see what's running when I hold that button down, ands switch to them accordingly.

You bash the pre based on sprints version what about the plus which let us open more cards than the amount of apps that I even had installed. That is multitasking clear and elegant. Most of you have probably never used a pre. Going on second hand words or reviews on the internet.
[EVO 4G General] donatom3:
I owned one since Sprint launch day. The cards were a cool gimmick at first but if having cards means I can't have widgets count me out. If a program crashed but didn't free up memory your only way to clear it was a reset.
[EVO 4G General] ejittles:
Uhh because it may not make sense for all apps to behave in that way? It's all up to the developer, and that's how it should be. That's how it is on the iPhone too. As a developer, you have to specifically save the app state or it will be reset every time.