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[Galaxy S I9000 General] TexUs:
I have the same question he has, myself...

I 100% agree it's the best right now. But Android grows fast. We'll have dual core devices THIS YEAR (granted I think they'll suck battery like a cow but we'll see how it goes)... So obviously, it won't be relevant forever.

However my main issue is like with 3.0... Will we be able to upgrade or not?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Yceman:
Samsung is also what's keeping me from buying a Galaxy S.

I love the freedom of the HTC (specially the Nexus One), and being locked to Samsung with their terrible support is a dreadful sight to me.

I really don't know what to do, since I believe the Galaxy S has the best hardware nowadays but its software is just... unreliable
[Galaxy S I9000 General] BasieP:
in what way exactly are you 'locked'?

the phone is rooted, and i expect a custom rom with froyo soon...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] accinfo:
As BasieP was saying that we'll have a custom froyo, it'll happen for 3.0 (GingerBread) too. SGS will be one of the largest community due to its alluring specs. (my prediction, finger crossed - but seriously, just look at the specs)

Well that's if Samsung would not be able to provide an official build. (With the current number of developers in the community, any kind of modding is really possible)

You shouldn't worry about the support from Samsung. If you don't have Samsung, you have us. Remember now, Android is a community based 'software' (need a better word!). Annnnd best of all, our tweaks are far superior than 'official' builds.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Aweb:
Don't get your hopes up yet. It's not sure wether there will be a problem with the drivers or not ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Yceman:
Well, reading the Modaco custom rom topic (I can't post the link because I'm a new user) I'm led to believe that so far nobody can make a custom rom if Samsung doesn't release the regular rom first. So, no custom Froyo until Samsung release its own Froyo update. The same for Gingerbread.

See what the poster says:

"MoDaCo Custom ROMs are based on official ROMs - either shipping or leaked. A MCR release is designed to feel as far as possible like a stock ROM, with optimisations, tweaks and complimentary additions that enhance the user experience. The aim of a MCR is to be ultra reliable for use on an everyday device."

Later on someone else says:

"No I said it would be near impossible to get roms from other sources like Sense roms or Froyo on because of the driver issue. I never said you would never see custom roms. The only roms you are going to see are one's based off of Samsungs release."

And apparently this problem has happened with the others Samsung Android phones too.

That's what I meant with being locked with Samsung.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] TimoC:
I think Yceman make the point:

Without official driver from samsung: no update.

So i am sure that 2.2 will be the last update from samsung (yeah the sucessor is announced for Q1Y12.

And this means, that i will give back my galaxy S because i want more than 1 update (okay froyo will be an important update).

Sorry Samsung...

regards

Timo
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Harts@J:
Can any of the recent phones handle the Gingerbread for sure?

Do we really know the hardware specifications of Android 3.0?

I'm going to the SGS fingers crossed that it get the FroYo in 2010. HTC Desire get it for next Xmas, as read in many sites. :confused:
[Galaxy S I9000 General] bookwormat:
We know nothing "for sure". But it is very likely: The first Android Phone (G1),released 2008, runs Android 2.1 just fine, and it is getting 2.2 as well.

The question is not in hardware, but in support. Does Samsung want to support this phone in 6 month, and does the community has what it needs to take the future of the I9000 into its own hands?

As long as nobody counters the "drivers are properitary" argument from psychoace, I expect that there won't be custom roms which are not based on Samsung's own ROMs.

And as long as Samsung's PR does not make a great statement in this direction, we should expect that they won't support the galaxy S in 6 month. Because that is what they did with all their android phones so far. The samsung moment can easily handle Froyo, it was released in Fall '09, and it was announced a week ago that it won't get the update.

That said, support is not better from HTC, Motorola or Sony. At least here in Europe. The Nexus One is the exception, but that is not because of HTC.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MetaDude:
Hi Guys. This question of on-going support is the critical one for me. I really wanted to buy the Galaxy S but I've just pulled the trigger and purchased a nexus one !!!

Like any 'bleeding' edge phone the Galaxy S currently has a number of outstanding issues but who knows when, if ever, they will be fixed. At least with the nexus one there are regular updates from google AND there are loads of roms and driver updates etc available.

For me in the end it boiled down to a choice between (a) the Galaxy with its better hardware and features (E.g. the screen, built-in memory, video playback, music player etc) but with unreliable fixes and updating and (b) the Nexus with a not so good screen and poorer selections of apps out of the box but with easier updating and reliable updating.

However, having said that, I still think the Galaxy will still be a good/better choice for many ( most?) people provided purchasers are happy with the phone as is. I regard myself - and probably many of the XDA-developer members as a minority for whom the latest OS updates are important.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Maverick777:
A number of items to consider:

1. This phone is being released worldwide. (support is a given)

2. Samsung has released the source code and developed a site to release source code for all their future products.

See here: http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/reception_main.do?searchValue=i9000&method=reception_search

3. There is already a custom rom on MoDaco.

4. Since the phone is already rooted, further support will no doubt continue.

5. The GPU on the SGS is just insane compared to what is currently available on other phones. (including the iPhone 4)

6. The Screen!

7. The Screen!

8. The Screen! :p

Only time will tell how much support this phone will get from the community, but considering it is already rooted and the amount of enthusiasm people have for this phone, I think the support will continue. Even with Samsung's previous history (Behold II), I'm confindent that the SGS will get continued support. I feel this is the beginning of a very important product line for them. The backlash from South Korea alone would be immense if they dropped support. Pissing off customers in your home country would not be a good idea.

I'm definitely putting all my eggs in this basket and hoping for the best. :D

PS: There's no such thing as a future proof phone. There will definitely be a better phone this fall. But probably none with a Super AMOLED screen.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] samylines:
Hello Everyone..

Today I flashed the ROM for my HTC TP2 to the one listed below which comes with Windows Mobile 6.5.

ROM Name : WWE RHODIUM Cookie Energy style

ROM Version : 03.Jul.2010 WWE

ROM date: 03/15/10

RADIO Version : 3.45.25.14

Everything seems to be great so far and the only thing I now need is a good antivirus that can protect my device against viruses and other security issues.

Can anyone please recommend me a good antivirus or firewall solution that can be installed on Windows Mobile 6.5 Professional and which should not degrade the performance of the device..?

Any suggestions will really be helpfull..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] XERO_Racer:
why would you need an anti virus?

ive used WM for the past 3 to 4 years without an anti virus and i never had any virus problems ever since

but if youre really that concern then, turn off Beam, Bluetooth file sharing, and dont browse any sites that may contain a virus.....but thats AFIAK

cuz really WM phones arent really that immune to viruses AFIAK
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] samylines:
Sorry to be a pain here...

but what if I recieve an infected email? Wont it harm my phone?

I do not browse those vulnerable websites nor have any habbit of downloading suspicious applications. I am concerened about email...

Please advise..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Jackos:
No way something can infect your WM phone. There are about 3 viruses for WM as far as I know, and they are all installed by cabs or other **** from warez.

If you are so concerned about privacy and viruses you may try Lookout. I really enjoy its localization service. It has a got a firewall and a anti-virus integrated.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] defaultdotxbe:
pocket outlook doesnt execute any macros or other things like desktop outlook does

also, it would have to be a virus written for WM, viruses written for other (dekstop) windows wont infect windows mobile
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] stevedebi:
I don't think AV is needed, but eset makes one www.eset.com.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] BeEazy10:
KAspersky

Kaspersky make antivirus programs for mobile phone. Work good with the TP2
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Baylenthesky:
Precisely, it's like a Windows virus harming a Mac computer. Windows Mobile is wayyyy different than desktop version of Windows, therefore the same viruses on desktop won't work on Windows Mobile.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] samylines:
Thanks.. I wasnt aware WM is not yet that exposed to viruses.. However, its better safe than to be sorry...

I did try mylookout.com and its awesome.. It hasn't affected my mobiles performance yet and find it good in terms of security and protection so far..

Thanks for clarifying my doubt.. I wasnt aware about this and indeed i now feel a bit assured ..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] AidanBell:
Samylines is right to want antivirus. The "I've never had a virus yet so don't need antivirus software" argument is like saying you'll never wear a seatbelt because you haven't yet had an accident. It's definitely prudent to have the assurance of antivirus especially in an industry that is changing and growing (and the threat of viruses increases) on a daily basis.

I don't know Kaspersky's Mobile antivirus, but I use their PC version and find it superb, so I imagine their mobile version would be good too. And I know that F-secure also make a good mobile antivirus.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] defaultdotxbe:
as jackos pointed out there are not very many viruses out there for WM (he says 3, ive only heard of 2 though) and they are installed via cabs/exes, not email as the OP is concerned about, and i dont think an antivirus would be very good at stopping those, just like desktop antivirus isnt too good at stopping similar trojans on their OSes

the fact is your desktop usually gets infected via flash player, java, email macros and other means similar to that, and the phone simply doesnt support any of that, so its a lot harder to get infected even if there were more viruses

and with WM losing market share to iphone and android i doubt anyone is keen on making many new viruses for WM

maybe we should start a poll, how many people dont run antivirus and never had a virus :)

as for me, 10 years using palm, WM and blackberry, no AV, no viruses
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] AidanBell:
I agree with you. I think the chances of getting a virus on a Windows Mobile device are extremely small. But you say yourself "its a lot harder to get infected..." not "its impossible to get infected".

Like you I have been using Windows Mobile for several years and never had a virus, but I'm accepting that the possibility exists. It's the same as insuring your house against the possibility of theft, even though it's very unlikely to happen. I don't understand why you're against someone taking the precaution of installing antivirus software "just in case"?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] samylines:
Peace people :)

All we can say, anyone who wants to use any antivirus and firewall for his/her Windows Mobile, he does have a few good options.. Else its upto that user to use it not.. isnt it :)

I did get the option I was looking for and thanks everyone for helping me out and sharing your knowledge here...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] lufc:
If you are interested in blue tooth headphones have a look at this baby

21.99 GBP instead of 79.99 and an extra 20% discount with code last20 makes 'em £17.59 GBP free p&p i know the end wont fit the tp2 but you can get a converter of ebay for pennies :)

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[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dai323:
Sadly, Google CEO Eric Schmidt has confirmed that there wont be a Nexus Two:

http://androinica.com/2010/07/05/go...oming-that-means-a-nexus-two-is-coming-right/

Im actually really disappointed, as I planned on selling my Nexus One to upgrade to the Nexus Two. Then it made me wonder....I wonder now if the resale price on the Nexus One will go higher, as this is the only phone Google had directly manufactured for them?

I managed to get 120 euros for my old G1 when I sold it, and it was a year old (I babied it and kept it in FLAWLESS condition). I paid 370 Euros for my Nexus One (contract free) from someone who had purchased it from Google directly and only had it for a week. I wonder now if when January comes around, if I can get more for it now?

Would you sell your Nexus One later this year if you knew you could get more for it than what you paid? And if you could, do you think its worth it to sell it or hold onto it? Do you think Nexus Ones that came directly from Google vs a carrier will be worth more?

Thoughts?

Discuss :)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] inneyeseakay:
I paid $199 for my AT&T 3G Band Nexus One & Dock... I'm pretty sure I could get back what I paid now, even if they do make a N2 :)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AbsoluteDesignz:
They should release a Nexus 2 but as a limited edition phone...just make like 200K of the handsets...high quality...make a flagship Android phone...it'd go great with the dev and geek community. A Nexus every year.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dai323:
Brilliant idea! I really feel that Google needs to put out their own phone regularly, as a high Android powered device running stock Android is in my eyes badly needed. The thing is, I dont think Google is pulling our chains on this. I really dont think another phone will come directly in the same form that the Nexus One did.

Im sure alot of people including myself would scoop up 200,000 of these handsets in a relatively short amount of time.

I personally think thats a great idea, as I love the fact that I dont walk around seeing everyone and their mother having my phone :)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Eclair~:
Then what will be the next phone to receive updates without carrier consent? Or the next developer phone entirely? Or the next phone with fastboot OEM unlock? There may not be a Nexus two, but there needs to be a equivalent.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
My nexus is going in my permanent collection I think. It's too nice of a phone to sell when I'm done with it. Maybe I'll change my mind later, but It's almost like a collectors phone in a way.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AbsoluteDesignz:
yep...and then it's exclusive status will cause it to sell out faster...maybe the year after they can up it to 500K and soon the Nexus brand will be widely known as quality and exclusivity..."oh you have an iPhone 6? well **BAM** I have a Nexus 3, you were saying?"
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wylker:
You guys are forgetting that Google has never really been about content CREATION. The nexus was some kind of weird test for them and their production/marketing teams. They're much happier (as an organization) to either be a link from others' created content or to provide backend support for others. They don't want to be in the production, direct selling, QA, and support business. This is why you'll probably never see another google phone.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jjss75:
very disappointing, but a pretty cool way of backing off. not like apple where they give you the 3G then the 3GS, hate their upgrades.

i dunno what i'm supposed to get after the N1 grows old someday.

planning on getting another one before the online store closes.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AbsoluteDesignz:
lol, my exact thoughts...I have NO idea what my next phone is gonna be now :-(
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kolyan:
they could have at least made a few improvement and release Nexus 2.

all i want is SAMOLED, FM-tuner......and.....thats it i guess.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AbsoluteDesignz:
dedicated GPU and the newer multitouch sensors....oh I'd like the touch buttons to be either heavily improved or replaced with good quality hard buttons that look like the Legend's
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tech_Boy:
Just bought mine. Don't think I will sell it until a see a dual core gsm phone. But even then the Nexus is just soo nice! ;)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ryjabo:
That's rumored for this winter: http://androidspin.com/2010/06/24/rumor-dual-core-800mhz-phone-hitting-t-mobile-before-holidays/
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] craignostic:
im gonna hang on to alexis, my nexus, for a bit and retire it as i did my adp1. i think the htc sidekick looks like a worthy replacement in the specs but if its got a ui over stock android im out. Nothing beats having a unbranded device.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DMaverick50:
i was really looking forward to nexus successors. As a TMobile customer it was my strongest hope of having high powered stock Android options

But what if gingerbread doesnt eliminate other skins like google hopes it will? These other stupid companies have worked hard to put their stupid skins (other than HTC's Sense obviously) on these otherwise great android phones, maybe they wont want to just drop their development.

Then maybe Google would release a phone to display their own UI like they put out the nexus to set the previous bar...
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] boesky:
Honestly mate, that's what's happened to the iPhone, don't cha think? At least that's how it is in Singapore. Every other schmuck has an iPhone. To think that not too long ago, anything with an "i" as the first letter in its name was something to be proud of. Now it's a phone for the masses.

What I'm trying to say is, I suppose Schmidt had his heart in the right place when he decided to announce that Google's pulled the plug on the project..

However having said that, a "limited edition" every year (to the date, e.g. 5 Jan 2011 for N2) would be wicked :D
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] boesky:
We're all aware of Google's "Do No Evil" motto aren't we? Taking that into consideration I'd say that a more likely route Google may take is to mandate that its partners (Moto, HTC, Acer, etc., ) must, to the best of their abilities, educate their customers on the choices they have (stock vs. something-meatier-on-top [e.g. Sense UI]), and to allow these customers to easily switch between UIs.

Remember how in the earlier builds of HTC's Desire, you could actually "force stop" the Sense UI like any other app? Something like that, just intentional this time :rolleyes:
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AbsoluteDesignz:
yea you could forcestop the sense homescreen, but that's about it...you couldn't do anything about the systemwide integration of sense.

If these OEMs made their skins like home replacements or something and simply disabled stock launcher that'd be great...that way regular joes would use their OS and the more tech savvy people would easily disable the OEM home replacement. Then updates would probably happen faster as well.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Amdathlonuk:
I don't think you need to go looking for a phone as such, I think they find you in a way.....

I went to the shop for my upgrade and saw the G1 for the first time, bang! that was it! that was the handset I wanted.

I then wanted the Hero and I'm now on the Nexus.

Of all the phones out now there is truly not one I want, I'd love a mash up of a couple though! (Samsung S Amoled screen, Desire radio, 8mb camera with Dual flash, HD video, hard buttons...etc).

Basically, until a new hadset comes out, makes me want I don't go looking.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dai323:
I ll take a hummingbird processor to go with those fries! (have you guys seen the side by side processor tests? its SO much faster)

A 2ghz processor would also be epic. I guess the new Motorola phone at the end of the year will be the game changer, as its supposed to be the first 2ghz.

Unless of course someone releases dual core first (doubt it because of battery issues)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mtl171:
:O seriously? where?
[General Accessories] lufc:
If you are interested in blue tooth headphones have a look at this baby

21.99 GBP instead of 79.99 and an extra 20% discount with code last20 makes 'em £17.59 GBP free p&p i know the end wont fit a lot of the devices but you can get a converter of ebay for pennies :)

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[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] pettycool:
hi everyone... i have HTC diamond with wm 6.1> ROM ver. 1.93.415.4 WWE ...and it's originally was bought from spain so i only can ROM upgrade it from HTC with the spanish ROM... but unfortunately um not spanish :) i need to rom upgrade it to the english rom but can't... any help??
[Droid Eris Android Development] hallstevenson:
From doing a Google search, it appears that it's not an uncommon problem for people to have an issue with turning WiFi on/off and it affecting 3G service. Do others here experience this ?

What happens is, when I enable WiFi (I also connect to a hotspot), my 3G service is turned off. I can't place phone calls. When I turn WiFi off, I'm again able to make calls.
[Droid Eris Android Development] ramseyja:
i've never had this problem as far as i know. i been running various cyanogen roms for the eris, since they became available.
[Droid Eris Android Development] hallstevenson:
It's easy to test. Turn on WiFi, connect to an access point, and try to make a phone call. I want to determine if it's ROM-specific (doesn't sound like it as there are posts over at Cyanogen's own forums with others seeing this) or if it's something wrong with Cyanogen's side of things.
[Droid Eris Android Development] ramseyja:
Well I currently running kaosfroyo v14, which is part cyanogen part plain aosp. Wifi is broken this version, so later when v15 is out I see if works. not using 2.1 right now, so prolly can't be to helpful.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Marisa:
When I was on CELB (jumped on FroYo), connecting to wifi only caused a brief disconnect less than one second long. I'm not sure if it interrupted phone calls as I was never in call while connecting, but I can definitely say that I was able to make and recieve calls afterward.
[Droid Eris Android Development] vash8806:
never had a problem with wifi on and making phone calls..

Used the following roms:

white widow

evil eris

damageroms

Fresh Rom

eris lightning bolt
[Droid Eris Android Development] Andrizoid:
calls dont use 3G anyways. when in a call your phone drops to 1x
[Droid Eris Android Development] hallstevenson:
Yes, you're correct (I know this myself) but what clued me was seeing the "3G" icon disappear.

Right now, in the status bar, I have the 3G icon with (2) arrows flickering, as well as 2/4 bars for signal. WiFi is OFF. Turn WiFi ON and the 3G icon gets replaced with the WiFi icon. I place a call .... and it works.

I feel stupid now ! :D

I swear, I ran into this multiple times otherwise I wouldn't have searched and posted posts and threads about it.