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[XPERIA X10 General] MacDrunk:
Im not jelous of the iphone just consider flash on the iphone it is capable event whit his gazillion resolution screen
[XPERIA X10 General] Keegan_P:
Just laugh at iPhone users about the fact that your phone isn't being remotely accessed by the control freak that is Steve Jobs (yes he stalks his customer :-) ).
[XPERIA X10 General] Darthhister:
I agree, screen resolution isnt important on a SMART phone. Keyword smart, its for computing and being all around practical. by that respect almost all 'Droid' series phones win hands down as well as the X10.

Although name calling is alittle childish, Apple deserves it for their behavior toward customers in this 'ipoo 4' crap.
[XPERIA X10 General] k1sr:
Childish, and fun... ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] gpmg762:
It is actually 1.5 times the resolution not double.
[XPERIA X10 General] Infinity1988:
I really doubt they can fit a ccfl tube into a mobile phone. I think all smartphones have a led backlight.

Also nowhere on the internet is stated what sort of panel is used in the xperia x10.

on topic: All apple products are bad, only their macosx software is good. For example, their ipods have worse sound quality than other mp3 players that cost half as much. Their iphone 4 is a complete design flaw, it just sucks and android is a better os. At the moment the screen of de xperia x10 is limited to 65k colors, so we have to wait untill the update in Q3 or Q4 to see it's true potential.

And at some point it doesn't matter anymore how much pixels the screen has, because you can't see the individual pixels anymore. The screen of de X10 has enough pixels in my opinion.
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
How old are you? Do you expect to be taken seriously when you post things like "iPoo"?

To the OP: What's so "obviously better" about the screen? The fact that it's smaller? Both phones are incredibly clear and easy to read, not to mention bright.

To everyone: If you're so worked up over specs, why did you buy an X10? There are more things to a phone (and life, really...) than pure specs.
[XPERIA X10 General] metcard:
petty much. can't take anyone who calls it iPoo seriously. It's iPoop.
[XPERIA X10 General] misterzak:
You beat me to it! I've been calling it that for ages!
[XPERIA X10 General] rynoon:
The lack of colour range on the X10 is a tad annoying, although for most things you may not even notice it. It will be nice when SE releases 2.1 and the colour support is better.

As for the iPhones resolution; it's pretty nice. From what I've seen images are very crisp and clear. That being said, I ditched the iPhone/iPod Touch for the X10 because the screen was too small, not because the resolution was. That hasn't changed.
[XPERIA X10 General] aLPaSLaN07:
3 Weeks and used only %30 of battery? Mate , you can break the world record of longest battery life.. That simply does not sound valid to me..

Anyway.. The only difference of Apple from the other brands is the "attidute". They're like "we're giving you good qualified , well-designed products , but you gotta stick with what we tell you to do or not to do." Well , I'd prefer not being oblidged to use only ITunes stuff than an IPS panel and a good looking desing. I'm pretty happy that I'm not using any apple , If I do , I feel myself insulted..
[XPERIA X10 General] Minoza:
Regarding screen comparison;

Did you guys ever tried to turn of deafult automatic brightness and crank it up manually?

I mean, difference is obvious, when you turn up the brightness it looks amazing! I'm sure it can't compete with iPhone on stock settings, but if you compare it on manual setting I'm pretty sure iPhone wouldn't look that much better...

I agree that on stock settings it looks like **** if you compare it to any other screen, brightness is simply too low that way making the colors look bad too...
[XPERIA X10 General] Darthhister:
I know its NOT a TN panel because a TN panel cannot show 16m colors, which the x10 will when we get the 2.1 update. Therefore this person has lied.
[XPERIA X10 General] Mano1982:
Screen on X10 is not bad at all, so i'm happy & i don't need to compare it with iPhone's screen. I knew about X10's screen when i bought X10 ;)

You can compare screen of iPhone4 & screen of Samsung Galaxy S :)
[XPERIA X10 General] bulltronStudios:
screen resolution is only one thing ...

and imho ... who gives a **** ... if its slightly less resolution, on a bigger screen(when 2.1 drops better colour support) ... the iPhone is still closed platform, with mad bugs....

open source android makes the lack of resolution a none-issue ... i cant hop into eclipse, and whip up iphone apps and release them for 25$ for LIFE ;) ..... where can you do that ?.. for so cheap? oh yeah .. android! whatsup! plus, android is in my browsers dictionary ... iphone ... red underline every time ... so take that apple! queers!

*edit : FOR LIFE --- and apple is gay... back to hero forums i go.
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
That's why God created Bluetooth! :eek:
[XPERIA X10 General] Darthhister:
Not true. Vikings invented Bluetooth!!!!
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
I was kind of hoping that some one actually had both phones. Anyway, here is my take based on specs.

The signal bug on the 4G is easily fixed with bluetooth or wired head set, or that gay band Apple sells for a million dollars each. Holding your cell phone next to your head should be avioded anyway. This way you have your phone to remind you. :p

The 4G resolution is at the limit the eye can detect, which is 1.5 times better than our X10's. I think we can all wish we had that kind of resolution no matter the device.

The 4G OS is on par with Android 2.2 ( I doubt we will ever get 2.2 or better on the X10). And, even if we do some day get 2.2, by that time we will all be using a different device, most likely one running 3.x.

And, since Adobe Flash 10.1 requires 2.2 or better the 4G which is running HTML5 has a serious advantage.

The 4G is currently HD. Us X10 owers are all looking forward to the day when HD is available. I"m not holding my breath.

Than there is Facetime! I know there will be plenty of people telling us all the short comings of Facetime. But I also know this is a serious step in the right direction. You can have a quality video chat that is supported by Apple (not any hack company which has offered a third rate and near un-usable service up to this point). Free video calls supported by Apple. Chit, that make the 4G worth buying on it own.

Also, there is the fact the the 4G is 4G! Not that it is available every where (yet), and battery limitation and costs make using it very user unfriendly. But it is still there on the Apple for you to turn off ;). The X10 doesn't even give you the choice.

And, let's not forget how easy it is to find software with pre-set parameters for Apple devices versus SE's 80+ handsets and constant changing shapes, sizes, and OS.

The 4G looks pretty f'n good if you ask me. However, I do not like the fact that the screen doesn't fill out the front face.

Now in case you're wondering, no I am not a fanboy. I have never owned an Apple anything, for many of the same reasons we all own our SE's. In fact I was a loyal Motorola customer up until nine years ago when I bought my first SE. But there are still some good reasons to be excited about the new 4G, even if you never own one.

Now despite Steve Jobs tracking every thing every one is doing with their Apples (which Bill gates does too) (and so does google), aren't you getting a little sick and tired of SE releasing great devices that always seems to be limited by out dated software. Cause I sure as hell f'ing am!

The 4G is without a doubt the better of these two devices. There are some great reasons to consider buying one.
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
Yeah, but.... If you ask the Vikings, they are Gods!
[XPERIA X10 General] Keegan_P:
My friend is getting an iPhone 4 very soon, around Saturday, so I can get a camera and screen comparison then probably.

Sent from my ROOTED x10a!

Avatar made by me!
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
Cool on both accounts!
[XPERIA X10 General] Cnrl:
I try the iphone 4 today and quite honestly yes the outside construction fell robust,but it still fell like a phone put quickly together.Its not a bad or a great device just another one,iphone is more a trend then anything else,people buy it because it look cool .Screen is not better or worse then the x10 no matter what its a damn cellphone not an hd tv.I fell the x10 is a more mature product,more refine and definitely you get more for your money.
[XPERIA X10 General] Baggyb:
Unfortunately the x10's screen hasn't been officially confirmed to support 16m at least not substantially. However it is true that 1.6 imposes a colour restriction of 65k.

The iPhone's screen is better quality (from what I've seen anyway) but the x10 has other merits.

On the other issue apple have said the signal thing is actually a software bug and that the bars you see are infact exaggerated by default. So when you see the signal bars decrease you actually end up with a true representation of your actual signal. If this is true that means apple have been lying to the consumer.

Forgive any grammatical errors I've been drinking!
[XPERIA X10 General] cytokine:
Thanks for pointing out my mistake. Here are some reasons I assumed X10 was CCFL backlit:

- The device's thickness at 13mm, which is 40% more than iPhone 4's

- The 'cold' tint of the display, whereas LED backlit displays typical appear 'warm'.

- Some very uneven backlighting on my unit

- Colors do not 'pop-out' like on other LED backlit displays (could also have to do with the current 65k software limitation)

- Whites appear washed out

Although the X10 looked like a CCFL backlit display to me, it's indeed a LED-backlit one. This is clear from the disassembly shots posted on this board, as the X10 display panel doesn't have a high voltage cable going from a screen bulb to an inverter (CCFL structure) and only has one connector (LED structure).

Backlighting aside, the screen panel most definitely appears TN to me.

It'll probably be 262k with dithering and not true 16.7 million.
[XPERIA X10 General] k0sun7eash3d:
@fm1776 Iphone 4 is not 4g. And while facetime does SEEM like it is a revolution, video calling has been utilized for quite some time already. For years now, video calling was realistically limited by the quality of the front facing cam. Just because Apple has put their name on it doesn't mean that it will out perform other capable companies such as Fring. Which leads me to my last point about it, facetime us only available over wifi, and really, if you needed to video chat over wifi, wouldn't it just be more comfortable over your laptop?
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
The lack of moderation on this board is appalling.

"gay", "queer"... I wonder if that's how you talk in real life. Your points may be valid, but by calling Apple "gay", you just look like a 13 year old who plays too much on Xbox Live.
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
We are not PC. Get over yourself! And no, despite all the non-media reports, you are NOT born gay.
[XPERIA X10 General] Keegan_P:
From a serious discussion about the iphone and Xperia x10's screens. To a discussion about personal preference, drawn out in a very negative way. Oh, and BTW, I'm a 14 year old who plays too much xbox live, but I'm sick of the stereotypes about EVERYONE.

Anyway, ill get the shots of the two screens soon, just as soon as I get to see my friend.

Sent from my ROOTED x10a!

Avatar made by me!
[XPERIA X10 General] gpmg762:
I wouldn't buy anything from your recommendation.

Get your facts straight just because it called iphone 4 doesn't mean it is a 4G network phone, iphone 4 is stuck on 3G network.

Signal bug, that's an easy one, X10 don't have it.

Facetime, video call, isn't that on most phone since 2007. What, iphone 4 only does it on wifi, I have to look for an access point to make a video call, give me a break.

Flash and HTML5, android can do both, iphone doesn't do flash what serious advantage it that?

The iphone 4 OS is on par with Android 2.2, that's another nono. Froyo outperforms iphone 4 OS in JavaScript benchmark, weblink: //gadgets.apnafundaz.com/2010/07/android-2-2-froyo-outperforms-iphone4-os-in-javascript-benchmarks-by-huge-margins/
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
It is not video calling which I have used and is very expensive. It is video chat, which has also been around for some time. However, now that a major phone builder has taken it front a center I think we can all begin to hope that it will start to be taken more seriously and given better hardware and software. I know it is chat instead of calling because of some service provider based limitations, but,,, I think there could be some benefits to the consumer that might come from this issue. Also, I have been wanting to use this type of service for years. But previous options have all sucked! The 4G's Facetime looks spactacular.

Yes Android can do 10.1 and HTML5. However, the X10 can NOT do either!

In addition, the edge might go to the android 2.2 OS over Apple's OS. However, the X10 is running the 1.6 and only scheduled to get the 2.1 which will also not play flash video! And, that update will probably come some time next year despite what ever SE says!

As for the 4G,, sorry just assumed. It does make it kind of a dumb name for the phone than.
[XPERIA X10 General] eviltuna:
First of all, I wouldn't call the reception thing a "bug" its a design flaw and its just retarded. I hate using my phone with a headset, and yes, I hold my phone like a normal person so I really think buyers should wait for them to fix this problem and not use a bandaid solution like a "band". Secondly, the iPhone OS in MY OPINION is very limited compared to android, in terms of customizability and functionality, I just can't stand the way the homescreen and everything looks. Widgets on android are awesome. As for the X10 itself, if you don't remember it 2.1 upgrade was stated as being 4th quarter and then sony revised it to 3rd, I doubt they would revise to an earlier date if they didn't think they can finish it. And video phone requires hardware and software? Hasn't this been workig fine since like 2006 or something? And other phones by LG/Samsung have been doing video calls since that time and this isn't on Wifi either. Apple has made a great phone for the average consumer/fad follower, but it is definitely no android device, the only thing the iphone beats the X10/any android phone in is ease of use, we are not talking about esthetics here because that all depends on who you ask. Once again you have shown how great apple is at marketing since you bought into all their BS like the rest of the zombies. In the end, choose the phone you like to use, the X10 has a lot of quirks too, mainly with SE's meddling with android, but then I would take that over the iPhone mainly cause I like to hold my phone to my face and be able to have good reception. Both great phones, but apple is much better at marketting and you need to get your facts straight before you write an essay about something.
[XPERIA X10 General] loneLEE:
Well seriously, video calls have been around for a long time. W960i had video call functions too, but for the 2 years of owning it, I have used that function for like only a couple of times. It was a fresh idea at first, but the novelty soon wore off.

I mean, everybody has their own privacy. You don't mind showing your mug on cam, doesn't mean others don't, or even wanna see you. And holding the phone, looking at it and and talking with the loudspeaker on, it's an annoyance to the people around you.

Or is it you yearn to force girls to see you jerk yourself in front of your cam -_-

Since you have so much complains about Rachael, why bother owning her? In case you don't own one, then don't bother posting her cos you are not an X10 owner.

We are satisfied with 1.6, thank you, and yes, we anticipated that 2.1 might be delayed, but who gives a hoot? Are you gonna marry a girl and complain or even divorce her when you realize she can't cook or do laundries?

Grow up. Please.

And, much as an apple-hater as I am, I have to say the name iPhone 4 is not dumb. It's logical. It's the 4th generation iPhone. So why can't it be called iPhone 4? Do they have to satisfy your lack of logic and call it iPhone 5 instead? -___-
[XPERIA X10 General] LeoC:
Definitely, x10 has 16M colors, just waiting for update, and you will see it.

Comparing the ppi,

Iphone 4:

960*640 & 3.5 inch => 325 ppi

X10:

854*480 & 4 inch => 245 ppi

Usually, the best pixel density, people can distinct, is around 300 ppi, 326 is over that. X10 only get 245 (also because the screen size of x10 is bigger), therefore, you can see there is difference from the screen, but not really that obvious without zoom the picture...
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
Well, where do I start? It does help communicating with people slightly more objective. Obviously you have not read this thread, merely jumped to last page picked up on something you didn't like and then insult the author.

I still own the P900a, P910i, X1i, and the X10i. Further I have never owned an Apple anything! But unlike yourself I do not think that everything I own is obviously the best in the world. I like to find the benefits and disadvantages in everything, and than make an informed decision. Not simply attack eveything I don't find a personal value in.

The image with the 4G is distinguishably better than the X10. I have also owned and used video calling a few years ago. I also did not use it much, but it had more to do with the extra 50 cents per minute and the quality of the image than it did with any novelty aspect.

And, no I would not use it to have ladies watch me jerk off as you claim. I would use it to talk to my wife and our 10 year old daughter, our 4 year old daughter, and our new born baby, whilst I am traveling. It is a great service and there are millions upon millions of people who will come to count on it. But I do appreciate that there are people like yourself that have no one meaningful in your life, or that you think you might have need to hide from someone at sometime or another if you had video chat.

I also do not use load speaker, but I do use bluetooth and a wired headset nearly every call. In any case the speaker would not be a problem. Since I put my family first I would schedule a time where I could video chat to my family and give them my undivided attention. Most likely from the comfort of any hotel room that I might be staying at.

The 2.1 will not be out until next year, regardless of what SE state (and it will still be behind the competition when it is released). I know this because I have been a loyal SE customer for nearly ten years and have owned four separate flagship devices. It is not a problem for me. I will get the Iphone for free and sell my X10 (which has been a let down) for 300 euro or so. Since I also got my X10 for free It will be a profitable little transaction for me. Enjoy your device and I wish you the best.

As for splitting hairs about the name, honestly what's the point.
[XPERIA X10 General] Mano1982:
The official name is iPhone 4 not iPhone 4g. Since AT&T is still on the 3G network the iPhone will not be 4G.
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
Thank you again. We have already established this; several times in fact.
[XPERIA X10 General] Mano1982:
Then you should edit your post about iphone 4's 4G :)
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
As a long time SE customer I am all too familiar with SE's promises. I already know what will happen. There will not be an os revision before Q1 of next year, regardless of what SE are currently stating. They are simply trying to buy enough time for them to announce the launch their next flagship device. Been there done that. And, that device will be just as incredible when it is released, and it too will have software that limits the consumers ability to actually experience any of the fancy hardware they just paid top dollar to own.

The Apple product has HD right now. The iphone supports flash right now. You don't have to wait for Q4, or Q3, or more likely Q1 or even Q2 of next year. By which time the X20 will be announced and the X10 will be dropped like rock. The exact same thing that has happened for their last four flagship devices. But you go ahead and listen to what they say and don't pay any attention to what they do.

The Iphone has a much superior image right now. It has a smoother and faster OS right now. It has thousands of more apps right now. But you keep waiting. You keep on making your comparisons to what the X10 will be like some time in the future. Forget the fact that you can't currently customize the X10 either.

Iphone isn't perfect and, neither is the X10. But the iphone can run circles around the X10 in it's current state. But you go ahead and keep comparing The Iphone to what the X10 will be like once hell freezes over. You'll see.

Me, I'll pick up this FREE iphone to hold me over until the next great device has been tested by the public.

EDIT- if it totally sucks I'll still have my X1 to fall back on.
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
People are suppose to read the entire thread!
[XPERIA X10 General] Mano1982:
And you want them to read sumthing which is wrong, something you just claim & it's not true? :) You can edit & make your thread more correct. A wrong claim can make people not to believe on whole thread :)
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
I appreciate the feedback, but I already did make the correction about misunderstanding the name in a few other posts since.

EDIT- People that are objective will understand the over all point. People that are not object will latch on to the most meaningless aspect of my point which was wrong, to prove how right they are. In any case you can't really have an intellgent conversation with people who are not object to begin with, now can you. ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
Mano1982,

There are several minor bugs with the X10 as well. I am listening to what you are telling me and taking stock, so don't take my reply as ignoring your experience with the Iphone. I will spend more time following the issues you high lighted. Specially the hot phone issue.

There are also minor bugs with the X10 email. The smallest being with Gmail not auto refreshing in-box upon opening program. Other email services have a wide range of issues that are slightly more annoying.

Facebook in-box is not accessible from the facebook icon. However, if you go in through google maps you get access to new messages.

I like the X10 camera in it's current state, but it is very laggy and certainly not bug free. X10 video's still leave a bit to desire.

Did you get a chance to use flash? If so, could you share your experience with it?

As for the free applications. EXAMPLE: If 57% of free apps equals 10,000 free apps and 34% of free apps equals 100,000 apps, aren't we still getting more free apps with the largest provider of phone apps on earth?

I have watched a few video's of the G4 from users on youtube and it looked pretty f'n good from what I have seen. but I am holding out until my mate comes by with his G4 on Monday before I jump to any conclusions.