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[Hero CDMA Android Development] alluvion:
Sorry if this has already been addressed, but I cant find any info on it...

I notice that even though I mark the "use as default" option for launcher pro, adw still shows as running in manage applications. Perhaps it is not an issue, but I was wondering if there is a way to disable/remove adw launcher so that there aren't two launchers running.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] theimpaler747:
Just do the number in the 300s lol
[Hero CDMA Android Development] theimpaler747:
Use titanium backup to remove ADW
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Coolaaron88:
well it makes the jump from 245 to 480 mhz so I dont know if you can refine it more than that. Also on the main screen, it currently says Max: 528 Min: 245 and I cant make the max any higher than it already is. Those are what the sliders say. At the very top it says. 691 mhz and on the right it says 691mhz max and underneath says 245 mhz min. Hope this isnt too confusing lol
[Hero CDMA Android Development] theimpaler747:
Oh I see the issue. Hit menu, select device, and do auto detect... then It'll work :D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Coolaaron88:
I am not seeing an auto detect option, this must be driving you crazy. So sorry for all of this
[Hero CDMA Android Development] stayclean:
Autodetect Speeds is the second option
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Coolaaron88:
Ok I see it, thank you very much
[Hero CDMA Android Development] theimpaler747:
You good? Everything working? Sorry I didn't answer before, I was working on my theme and I got the circle battery working so I'm happy now :D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] 151jcolon:
new kernel uju runnnnn. lol flash flash
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Coolaaron88:
Well before I was running an older version of setcpu so I have the most recent version now haha and I have the screen profile set to 352-245 and the priority at 100% and the main tab is scaling on demand. Is that good? xD
[Hero CDMA Android Development] 151jcolon:
lol and 77 is out.aaahhh flash flash
[Hero CDMA Android Development] theimpaler747:
I'd say so ;)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Coolaaron88:
Wow this is pretty early for a release xD
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Coolaaron88:
When you flash nightlies, do you have to redo everything?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] theimpaler747:
When you flash a nightly, just flash the kernel right after and everything is good... it's really not that much more work
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Coolaaron88:
Ok sounds good, thank you for all your help :)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] theimpaler747:
Not a problem, not a problem, let me know if you ever have any other questions!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] igtheactt1:
Loving Nightlies CM6 changed to LauncherPro because Stock Launcher was sluggish..

Only issues I am having is with my battery.. No matter what id have to literally charge my phone twice in a day... I have Setcpu running Main 768/691 / Screen Off 352-245

Today all I've had running was Ebuddy & Bloo 1.5 for facebook.. 1 main screen and no widgets other then Fancy Widget.. I'm not understanding why certain members literally do more then i do on my phone yet go all day with more then 50% left...
[Hero CDMA Android Development] theimpaler747:
Fancy widget can kill your battery if you have update settings too frequently... I wouldn't have it update more than every 3 hours.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] igtheactt1:
Ok Thanks.. is there any findings of Bloo 1.5 or Ebuddy draining the battery quickly?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] theimpaler747:
Wish I could tell you, not familiar with those apps though. Just don't have anything update more frequently than every 30-45 minutes.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] igtheactt1:
Ah I see.. You don't use any Instant Messaging Apps?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] theimpaler747:
Nope! That's probably why battery's so good for me ;)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] stayclean:
Been using Beejive and great battery life with it on, probably since it uses push notification. Never used ebuddy.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] igtheactt1:
Guess imma have to cough up the 10 bucks for beejive... Forgot it was for android.. I used it back on my crackberry...
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Bad--Dog:
ebuddy will suck your battery like a vampire on crack
[Hero CDMA Android Development] hotaru:
ebuddy seems ok on battery life if you have it set right.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] stayclean:
Well worth the money, definitely the best Android IM client.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] igtheactt1:
Ahh good lookin' guys
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Rivas123:
I agree. I don't use it anymore.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] revcp:
3G weak or non existent

Not sure what happened. I've made only two changes lately, flashing the #73 nightly and, more recently, updating the prl to 60671. I now read either very minimal strength in 3G or it's in 1X. Anyone have a similar issue? Could this be from the PRL update? Could it be some kind of Sprint fluctuation?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] halrulez:
What radio are you on?

Sent from my FroYoed Hero
[Hero CDMA Android Development] revcp:
I was using the eris radio. I reflashed to no good effect. I then flashed the newest and after that the next newest sprint radios. Again, no change. After that I reflashed the eris radio. And, oddly, everything now seems ok.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] halrulez:
Maybe they were fixing a tower by you.

Sent from my FroYoed Hero
[Hero CDMA Android Development] igtheactt1:
What do you use now?

Sent from my dope ass Hero...
[Hero CDMA Android Development] kkruse:
I just wonder if anyone else has GPS locking issues (trapster,waze, etc) The gps update freq seems really really low on this family of roms.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Kayouu:
Newest nightly build fixes GPS for most.

Also ebuddy eats battery quick use it a little but never leave in BG. Main battery drain is still the screen, ever thought about bigger capacity battery?

Anyone try out newest nightly? Any differences to be noted?

HTC Hero Froyo 2.2v CMod-N
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Pwn3d:
Why are NIGHTLY's "unstable" or "expirimental" ?

I flash one every night and I never get any bugs or glitches...

Each NIGHTLY seems faster each time, lol
[Hero CDMA Android Development] ro_bro:
most likely it seems faster each time, since you're doing a reboot. I think that's a placebo effect we have when switching ROMs.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] bravo1565:
Now that there is stable cm6, I'm curious in how different will cm6 run with a nightly add on is there a big difference
[Hero CDMA Android Development] vita10gy:
No one is trying them. They're just automatically built from where ever they left off. They could be all sorts of broken. For example, they could be working on a bug with the led and break notifications altogether, or something like that.

(In other words, they usually aren't really in the middle of something and went to bed for the night, then it got compiled. They're almost certainly verifying that what they set out to fix is fixed/better before they check it in at all, but it's very easy to break something else while you're at it, and they aren't trying them as a whole. )
[Hero CDMA Android Development] vita10gy:
I avoided nightlies for a while, but went back to fill my "have to be screwing with something" needs.

I also personally felt that the stable build was worse than the nightlies I had been on. Reboots/Lags/etc

The nightly I'm running. (73 or 74) seems much better, though it's possible I'm just not seeing the same things. It's hard to say. You want to see things, so you do. (mmmm, this pill tastes like sugar)

I've also personally accepted that the hero is a pile of crap, and unlike some people here, realize you can't squeeze clock cycles from a turnip. Likewise I don't subscribe to the same "I should only have to charge my phone on leap years" philosophy many people adhear to. So I'm easier to please then many here, thus you shouldn't take my opinion too serious.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] stayclean:
I have never had a problem with any of the nightlys, at least no problems that weren't fixed the next day.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] ro_bro:
Doesn't that mean you've had problems, since they had to be fixed? Don't get me wrong, I like trying these CM6 nightlies, but we should just state the facts for what they are, that they do have issues, which do eventually get resolved, but not state that there are NO issues at all.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] stayclean:
True, and they are categorized as being experimental. Still, just in my experience, have had less issues with them as opposed to the stable build.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] ro_bro:
I agree with you - in the end, the Hero has subpar hardware. I just played with the Samsung Epic and I was blown away by how fast it was - and that AMOLED is awesome. I just wasn't impressed by the plastic casing. Wish it was metallic of some sort.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] vita10gy:
I was playing with a Epic the other day. I was underwhelmed with the screen and the speed. I was likely just oversold on the screen as after all the reviews I was half expecting it to shoot double rainbows all the way across the sky when I turned it on.

I didn't notice a big speed jump, as my hero is pretty snappy with nothing going too, though really for all I know there were 40 apps running. (I'm not saying it was slow, just that there's only so fast in can go, short of actually reading my mind and opening the app before my finger gets there.

It was also hard to get a read for the feel of it with the giant security brick on the back.

10/9 is my upgrade date, and Sprint just turned on 4g in Minneapolis which I visit often, so I think the Epic is calling.

The only thing stopping me, besides the price and $10 extra a month, is the fact that I'll really miss 2.2 and CM6
[Hero CDMA Android Development] ro_bro:
I think the performance boost is not so much in how fast the apps launch, but more significantly in gaming. In playing the demo racing game, I was shocked by how smooth it was. The Hero would not even come close to even trying to launch that game.

I think that's where the big performance difference is, since the Hero has no GPU. Anyways, yeah, the extra $10 is killing me. I dunno if it's just me, but I want a horizontal keyboard Android phone with hummingbird, and NO 4G. I have no need for 4G personally. It's not worth $120/year for me.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] obsanity:
Looks like there is a patch waiting for review on the 3D gallery:

"Gallery3D: Fix the picture caching system. Generate 2 files for cache: screennail and hires

Max. resolutions must be set according to memory and GPU capabilities in Config.java"
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dynamicpda:
I saw a problem with .77 and BFS uncapped #12:

After putting in a fresh battery and running it for 10 minutes, the phone would reboot sporadically and report wildly different battery statuses. The status would change from half full to flashing red need-to-recharge after each reboot.

I flashed to .79. Hope it fixes the problem.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] theimpaler747:
Make sure you use set cpu and lower your max frequency to 710... you're phone can't handle 768, hence the random reboots.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dynamicpda:
Thanks for the heads up. I had probably set the phone for 768 in batt-cfg, for the first time. I'll dial it back to 691.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] vita10gy:
Agreed. I'm not sure I'd want 4g even if I lived in a 4g area. 3g is plenty fast for almost all uses. I'm not sure what little I'd do where 4g matters would be worth $10. From what I've noticed from tethering, watching other people do it that is, whatever you wait for pages to load on your phone is virtually all waiting for the phone. The data CAN transfer likety split. It's all rendering/handling.

About the only reason I'm looking forward to it, maybe, is that I'm a Viking season ticket holder, and go to lots of Twins games, and the internet when that many people gather is painfully slow, I assume because 60,000 people are now sharing a couple towers. It's all but unusable. I think that, at least at first, they'll be fewer people on 4g, so that won't be as big of a factor. But that's a big assumption, and only a few times a year.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] DominoDoug:
I have season tickets to the Twins and can confirm that 4G works much better at Target Field. 3G is crippled there. Go with the EVO IMO still get cm6
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dynamicpda:
The phone companies bundle the experience: Sprint will have me pay an extra $10 to web browse smoothly even if it is the Hero that is the rate limiting factor.

I agree with the posters above: these ROMS and kernels are great but they can only do so much for the Hero's hardware limitations. Web browsing is unusable with one or two other apps in the background or complex web pages. I'm ready for the Evo 4G upgrade in less than four weeks.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] scope006:
I get your point... but what about tuning how much memory android "leaves free" using autokiller. It's not a task killer, it just allows you to adjust the process/memory management profile so to speak.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] feefeeboomboom:
True autokiler rocks it out.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] vita10gy:
See you Thursday! Die Yankees Die! :mad:

:p
[Hero CDMA Android Development] vita10gy:
The thing is, you kind of don't want memory free. Let's say you have 512 and keep half free, so you're never using more than 256.....then why even have 512? Clock cycles are the limiting factor. The point of memory is to be used so there's more things that load faster. Your phone bogs down when you have lots of things doing stuff because they're all doing stuff, not because the ram is full.

It would sort of be like having a 14 gallon gas tank, but deciding to never put in more than 10 gallons, just so you know in a pinch there would always be room for more gas, then wondering why you're filling up more than usual.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Brandito:
you're exactly right.

the gas tank analogy is flawed though. filling up with less gas can get you better gas mileage, you'll just fill up a bit more frequently. but then i'm just nitpicking.

this was a big complaint with windows vista, it liked to cache a lot of things to memory so they were there and quickly accessible when needed, though it'd give that memory up as soon as another application needed it. truth is win7 does the same thing but doesn't report it the same way thus making it first appear that it's using less.

ram is meant to be used, when it's empty, it's not really helping performance any.

i have 8gb in my gaming rig and windows has all but 200 mb or so cached, though it only reports 2.1gb being used.

not exactly sure how androids memory management works or how autokiller adjusts it, but i'd like to see someone really put it through its paces and see if and what side effects it may have on battery life and performance. i mean if you set it to aggressive will it never use that last 50mb of ram or so? if that's the case then like the above poster said you're just limiting the amount of available memory to the system.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Osirus71:
HA HA HA HA. LOL. Amen to that. Im never sure how people think they can run their phone for days without charging and want a super computer in their pocket.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] vita10gy:
Yeah, the point was only that keeping a few free gallons worth of space in the tank at all times just for the sake of having some space there makes little sense. The tank is there to be filled, and all keeping some space open you may or may not need later does is mean you can't have as much gas now.

Especially since in this case it would also be like if you did dip into the free space with a couple gallons during a momentary fill up splurge you had an automatic "aggressive fuel burner" that burned gas just for the sake of getting you back to the correct amount free.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] scope006:
maybe our buddy the_impaler747 would want to speak to this....

but my phone seems snappier running autokiller and unless i'm mistaken that "free memory" is used. if autokiller reports 60megs free, and then i go do an adb shell and then run bash, and finally execute htop.... it shows the amount of ram i'm using to be what autokiller reports, but also the whole "memory bar" area is filled up in htop. There are 3 colors green blue and yellow. the first two represent system and user app memory usage i believe and the rest is what is "cached."

so what i trying to state unless proven wrong... is it would be good to use autokiller to have a "snappier" reaction when launching new apps and most of the "free memory" is actually being used as disposable cache anyway.

comments?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Vrekk:
If your phones are snappier running auto killer it is more likely that the speed boost (assuming it's not a placebo effect) is because your phone is trying to do less things at once, not because of the extra ram.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] vita10gy:
Right, it killed something that was doing something, which, unless it's a crappy program, you probably wanted doing whatever it was.

And, as you said, who knows how much is placebo. A lot of the tweaks have to reboot to flash or start working, so maybe someone reboots a phone with 200 things open, flashes these things, and then is blown away by the speed increase, when the reboot was mostly responsible.

It's also possible, like the BFS, that this does make the app you're using feel snappier, but the gains come at the expense of background apps (multitasking)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] obsanity:
I believe the analogy you guys think of when looking at "free" memory on android is wrong. As I understand, Android OS does not leave RAM free. The free memory report you are seeing is not actually the total RAM free at the moment.

The way I believe it works is by "time" which applications are killed based on the 6 memory configuration limits. The foreground application is one which is usually set to the lowest memory limit. The last, empty app, limit is the one usually set to highest so that empty apps are killed first. The rest are in between stacked in a sequence and order of things which will happen depending on what the user does.

So to simplify, by opening an app with a bunch of others running at that moment, the system will not kill other apps until one of the limits is reached. Therefore, the higher the limits are, the QUICKER the system will kill them and thats why your system seems faster.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] usnret04:
I flashed the current nightly today. Had no problems other than a weird issue with Astro File Manager.

I had the Sprint Visual VoiceMail apk and the Sprint Football apk on my SD card in zip format. I had used them both on my earlier flash and it worked fine.

Now if I click on the zip files within Astro, it just opens the zip and shows the contents, but does not install the file. Any ideas?

Other than that CM6 Nightly 77 (10/05/2010) is working fine.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Vrekk:
Android does leave free ram, and it does it the same way Linux does, and by default, it will try to keep more apps in the memory than not, and keep some of it free for any new apps that come along. When the ram has reached the thresholds (set by defaults or the auto killer app), it kills apps to keep a some ram open, just in case. Basically the more ram you system is using, the better it is using your ram.

It tires to keep more in the ram by default so if that data is need later for an app, it can load if from ram rather than reopening the program, which in the end is a lot faster.

Basically if you use a lot of tasks and switch a lot on your phone, then the defaults or a low auto killer setting would be better. If you do a lot of apps that need a lot of power (3D gaming etc), more aggressive settings are better because it will have more ram ready for the game, rather than keeping things like messaging ready for action.

If its a flashable zip, you need to flash it. If its an apk inside the zip, you need to extract it then launch the apk, if its just an apk with a .zip extrension, change it from blah.zip to blah.apk
[Hero CDMA Android Development] usnret04:
Changing to .apk worked. Weird though, I don't recall doing that last time. Oh well, I'm happy now. Thanks. ;)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Vrekk:
No problem. :D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] lilmikeyv:
Ok... so a couple of noon questions, I apologize, been running the nightlies for a while now and switching kernels whenever Dec puts out a new one, but I see some things mentioned in these forums that I was hoping someone could explain further and how to do if possible:

1- changing the density?

2- moving dalvik to SD?

3 - changing vm heap size?

Any help is greatly appreciated and thanks so much to the developers and all on the forums who have helped make my phone fun again!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] user7618:
Menu> settings> cm settings> performance settings> vm heap size

I'm not sure on this, but I seem to remember people having issues running dalvik from the sd.

Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Froyo on Hero action here!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] lilmikeyv:
Thanks for the quick reply and the info... any suggestions what to increase heap size to and for that matter what it does... sorry, feel I'm at the point where a little knowledge is dangerous!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] user7618:
I kicked mine up to 32. It's virtual memory that, I believe, the os used to move things along a little snappier. I know I eliminate my lag when I increase it.

Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Froyo on Hero action here!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] theimpaler747:
The VM heap is the virtual machine size... it determines how much cache/memory an app can use before it's killed
[Hero CDMA Android Development] user7618:
I got the virtual part right! :cool: :-D

Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Froyo on Hero action here!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] theimpaler747:
Actually I thought you got it pretty much all correct, I just wanted to clarify and specify ;)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Kayouu:
Prl-60669

So I'm using nightly build full75. Never really had a problem until earlier I was charging it than picked it up after full charge and... no service. I've never had no service ever where I'm at. Service popped to 3 bars 1 bar than no service and now I'm still sitting here with no service. Any suggestions ? Or do you think tower having issues. Pretty sure I had newest radio, what's the newest version number?

Radio BB - 2.42.01.04.27

Update. Have 2 bars now but cuts to no service then back to 2 bars after a bit back and forth after a min. and I'm not moving.

HTC Hero Froyo 2.2v CMod-N
[Hero CDMA Android Development] lilmikeyv:
Sweet... thanks user 7618 and impaler... I appreciate it!... any idea about the density or dalvik to cache... from what I believe I understand from reading it depends on ur SD card... I have a 16 gb class 6 card only cuz I have a lot of music... just wondering if any benefit or really maybe more of a detriment ?... thanks again !
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Kayouu:
Ya I've been on sprint got service finally had to shutdown take out battery for 30min turned on now working ok normal bars and not losing service anymore. Anyway to just update the prl like a radio zip? Thanks for the help

HTC Hero Froyo 2.2v CMod-N
[Hero CDMA Android Development] nimitz87:
do you still need to flash Gapps with these?

edit: and is there a swype version that will work? I have 1.56 black, and swype swype-hvga-1.56.30.7625-hacked.apk and neither seem to work, they install but then when trying to select input method there is no option for Swype.

thanks

Chad
[Hero CDMA Android Development] davec1234:
You need to enable swype first in settings language keyboard.

CM6 Android 2.2.1 Froyo Darchstar

Radio 2.42.01.04.27

*Bite me Sprint!