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[EVO 4G General] ShadowDrake:
Specifically having to save the app state sucks, but I guess it lets Android do it's thing for backgrounding. I totally agree with the OP though. Android's multi-tasking feels very inconsistent due to things like this. I will often play an Engadget podcast at work. If I stream it and have to switch to another task to say, reply to a text, as soon as I switch off the music app, the stream immediately stops. I have to actually fully download the podcast, go to the music app, and start playing it from there as a song in order for it to keep playing if I go do something else. Very irritating.

A friend of mine has an old Touch Pro and said "isn't that thing supposed to multi task? Why can't it keep playing the podcast in the background?" And coming from WinMo myself, I just plain don't understand it. In WinMo, apps would keep going 100% in the background, regardless of what they were. There was automatic management of tasks, too but it definitely left control in the users' hands.

I think the big root of the problem is why the -built in- music app doesn't seem to keep going in the background.
[EVO 4G General] engagedtosmile:
Does for me.
[EVO 4G General] sfox8:
Mine continues to run as well. I'm not sure what's going on but maybe you're activating something that causes it to stop.
[EVO 4G General] mitch27:
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?deskto...e.com/watch?v=Qw9oX-kZ_9k&v=Qw9oX-kZ_9k&gl=US

It's not as good as the pre but its not bad either. The pre had the best multi tasking of any phone I've ever used. Windows mobile wasn't bad but the pre is so much faster to switch between apps. But that also hurt the battery life considerably. With android the applications control whether or not the app runs in the background, this had its advantages as long as the developer keeps this in mind.
[EVO 4G General] steb0ne:
LoL! Well, ur limited to the last 6 items popping up when holding home, if u wanna be specific. That's not convenient. I'm not or didn't say WebOS did anything "better", but I'd say switching between open apps is easier. As far as syncing contacts, calendar, FB, etc... that's what "Synergy" is and it's been there since the start of WebOS, it even backs up ur apps on their server for easy re-installation. I'm not a developer, but from what I've read, it's easier to develop for too.
[EVO 4G General] eagle63:
One limitation of webos (at least in its current state) is you can't have a headless app. In other words, all apps must have a UI - either a card or a dashboard. With Android (and windows mobile too) you can run a background service that is completely headless. A minor point maybe, but for some apps it's important.
[EVO 4G General] steb0ne:
I think they're referring to wht I was referring to... Try downloading a song, playing it from the notification area when done, then switching apps
[EVO 4G General] stoney05:
you act like our pre apps crashed all of the time.. I have seen far more forceclose popups since I've had the evo . Besides with preware and Luna manager its easy and pretty quick to restart Luna and java .

Also there was no need for widgets when all you had to do was swipe upwards to open the launcher, and since you could reorder them as you saw fit it was pretty convenient. Not the widgets are bad on Android they are sweet. I can't wait for a new WebOS phone.
[EVO 4G General] sfox8:
Oh. In that case, I don't know. I usually just open it straight from the Music app or through doubletwist. I'm sure your complaint is legit, I'm just not too familiar with it.
[EVO 4G General] Hrshycro:
I used the built in mutli-task switcher a lot more this past weekend while I was driving around San Fran, CA. Mainly switching back and forth from slacker radio to google nav, as well as some email and texting. I like the quick pop up menu, now. It's faster and easier to do without thinking about or having to swipe around until I find the right app. ;)

Anyone got the beats by dr dre monster isonic talk cable to work with the evo?
[EVO 4G General] bobdude5:
i may be reading this wrong but it sounds like youre comparing the application icons to the widgets?

widgets are for quick homescreen access to feautures of applications or the phone itself such as: toggling wifi bt gps, bookmarks, favorite contacts, new headlines, facebook wall, etc. The launcher is just a list of your applications, it doesnt matter if you can reorder it or not

oh another note, i was really hoping for google to buy palm, the combination of Android's awsome desktop experience, and webos polished multitasking would have been amazing. Damn you hp. Now we just have to wait for gingerbread
[EVO 4G General] ebuechler3:
gesture is a great app/way to instanteously switch between apps... its in the marketplace and i really like it
[EVO 4G General] ShadowDrake:
Yup. Download a podcast mp3 or something and play it from the notifications panel, or open a song directly using astro. While its playing, tap home and watch it stop. Or say you get a text, while its playing slide down the notification panel and tap to open the text. Again, it will stop playing.

It will only keep playing if you open the music app and find what you want to play there. Who thought this was a good idea to have the app behave?
[EVO 4G General] Vandam500:
Power Strip is an amazing app! Load your widgets from any page. This along with ADW launcher and I only have 1 desktop page and it works beautifully :)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] superlinkx:
So I have a new one for everyone. Ever since I last reloaded the firmware on my Evo, its been automatically mounting as a usb drive when I plug it into my computer. I think I told it to do that by default, but I successfully changed it, but even though it says charge only, but still mounts to the computer. Its rooted, but stock on the latest OTA with full NAND unlock. If anyone happens to know a way to fix this, I sure would be grateful, its annoying. Its easy enough to fix, just toggle between charge only and mount usb, hit ok, and then the sd card is loaded to the phone, but its kind of annoying to do every time I plug it in to my computer. (I usually charge off my computer, to keep it close by.) Thanks in advance!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BobFromAccounting:
Do you have DoubleTwist installed? By default (the moment you install it) it causes this issue unless you go into the app and turn it off under options.
[XPERIA X2 General] BRAIN_STEW:
Hey all,

do any of you know of a file explorer that will allow you to delete files from ROM? i want to delete some of the normal winmo themes
[XPERIA X2 General] doministry:
Hard to say.

Try:

- Total Commander

- Resco File Explorer.

I have no other ideas....
[XPERIA X2 General] BRAIN_STEW:
Cheers Doministry

i did have Total Commander installed and it never let me delete rom files, will give resco a go
[XPERIA X2 General] doministry:
Try, Resco seems to be a really advanced software.
[XPERIA X10 General] lostsouls:
Hi all! I've update the software & I enabled the delivery report for sms.

When I send a SMS, I did not receive the delivery report. Anybody encounter this? :confused:

How can I make the delivery report work? Thanks:)
[XPERIA X10 General] Shiwantha:
Are you using regular message application?

If so double check on you have ticked for delivery report for SMS and MMS in the settings

And check with your service provider its already activated to your sim card (this has noting to do with what kind of phone ur using, ask service provider to activate such service, if its available with them)
[XPERIA X10 General] lostsouls:
Yup. Regular SMS. No MMS

All checked... I never tried sending MMS though

My previous SE G900 is possible to receive, but not X10. :confused::confused:
[XPERIA X10 General] energie.:
the X10i does not notify you if the sms was delivered, you can check by tap and hold on the message (sms) you send and a menu pops up and you select view report, it will show you if it is delivered or pending. it is a pain in the a$$.
[XPERIA X10 General] lostsouls:
I just called customer service. They told me on the right side of the SMS, there's an envelope. If there's an exclamation mark on top of it, it means its delivered...
[XPERIA X10 General] Shiwantha:
I haven't use the regular message from the beginning.

Try using Handcent Sms, its free. And I have made customized handcent sms for X10.

check this forum handcent sms Modified to XPERIA X10 GUI

Once you installed,

On Handcent, go to settings/sent notifications/pick notify when message is received.

and do a test msg to a friend. It should show you an indication and you can pick custom tone.

Note:

if you get 2 notification for one message its because handcent and regular message both alerting for same event.

go to regular message and setting and remove all the notifications. keep only handcent.

Good luck
[XPERIA X10 General] lostsouls:
Thanks. I've downloaded HandCent. Its better than the regular SMS. I love it!!!!!!!:D:D
[XPERIA X10 General] TechGuru_x10:
If it is MMS, then Exclamation mark, else Tick mark for SMS.....
[XPERIA X10 General] Ungruntled:
Hi all,

I think I'm having a similar problem -

When I send a message, it definitely is sent - my friends are receiving them - but in Handcent, I get the blue-turning circle next to the message (as if it is still sending) and in the stock messaging app, the same message has the envelope with the exclamation mark.

Yet the messages ARE being sent.

This has only just started happening in the last day or so. I have installed quite a few apps to help save the battery since rooting - e.g. JuiceDefender, SetCPU, TaskPanel and StartUp Manager, but as far as I can tell I've not done anything to the SMS settings. As far as I can tell...

I'm on R2BA023, rooted, on O2 UK.

I've had a look through all the settings I can think of but I'm stumped now. This is the final niggle in my otherwise great new rooted set-up...
[XPERIA X10 General] Ungruntled:
Hey - just wanted to update as I seem to have fixed it...

Not sure HOW, but it's one of the following. Seems to be something in "Startup Manager".

1) I had removed "Handcent SMS" for "User startup". Under the basis of "if I need it, I will run it".

2) Had removed the default x10 "Messaging" app from "System startup". It had 3 entries in there. I removed them all...

So one of those things broke the Outbox. As I mentioned, messages would send (confirmed by friends) but still appear as "in progress".

So, having put them all back in "System Startup", and rebooted, the "stuck" messages finally stopped being "stuck". Fixing it seems to have sent the messages again, but they are no longer "in progress". They are, however, time-stamped with the current time (e.g. today) and not the time sent (e.g. yesterday). It turns out they have been "sent" again.

Oh dear, I just tinkered to try to pinpoint the problem and I've broken it again.

Further edit:

Actually, far from having fixed it, it seems that now the "stuck" messages only send during a reboot.

Trying to send them when the phone is "on" just leaves them stuck in the outbox. If I power off & on, they leave the outbox... BUT the recipient gets them again.

Damnit.

Any ideas?
[XPERIA X10 General] Shiwantha:
I dont think your rooting or any other application will affect this.

tell us what settings are u on when you go to :

On Handcent, go to settings/sent notifications/"What option??"
[XPERIA X10 General] Ungruntled:
I think it's not so much the "rooting" as possibly "things I have tinkered with after I got power-crazy after rooting", i.e. trying to disable things I don't need from running at startup. Un-doing that seemed to improve it...

Odd that at the moment it sends during boot. So something runs at boot that sends my outbox messages, but it can't run once the phone is on.

I just uninstalled Handcent and used the stock app. Sent a message first time with no problems...

I will reinstall Handcent and take a look at what happens. I can't not have that app now, I love it (until I broke it).
[XPERIA X10 General] cvchetan:
its exclamation for all....
[XPERIA X10 General] Ungruntled:
Well, re-installed Handcent. Seems to be okay now.

It's a bit odd, I never changed the settings in there, as far as I can tell.

Shiwantha, I remember that initially "Sent notifications" was on "Disable" but I changed it to "Notify when sent" when I was having problems, and it made no difference.

Anyway, it's fixed now. Thanks for your help!
[XPERIA X10 General] Ungruntled:
A quick follow-up... I like to give as much info as possible in these situations so anyone else who happens to find this problem may find something here that helps...

After re-installing Handcent, there are now two entries in StartUp Manager's "User" section. After my previous tinker-sessions, I could only see one to enable/disable, but I thought there were two before.

So I think that I "broke" one of those start-up entries.

For the record, it is working now and I have:

- Disabled ALL "Messaging" entries in "system" section of Startup Manager

- Left BOTH entries for Handcent SMS in "user" section of Starup Manager

The only conclusion I can think of is that by disabling the "Handcent" entries, I "broke" one of them, and so could only re-enable one of the entries. I assume the other one had some kind of SMS outbox functionality.

I'm just guessing though. But at least I can disable the "messaging" stock apps and it all still works.

FIXED. Relief!
[XPERIA X10 General] TechGuru_x10:
I just unrooted else would have shown u the screenshot.
[XPERIA X10 General] fm1776:
In additon to owning the X10 I own the X1. The message delivery notification was driving me mad on the X1. With the X10 I noticed there is a red X if the message has not been sent. However, once it is send the red X is cleared away. I like it this way much better.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] th1rt3en:
I've had it rooted, and flashed many roms to it.. then tonight it all went to sh!t.

I was trying to put a froyo rom onto it(i think it was called extreme froyo), and i got the boot loops, and on the download page it said i needed the newest radio/spl if that happened...

So i ended up flashing some sapphire SPL, and it got stuck on the "HTC MAGIC" bootscreen.... then I tried flashing this:

http://code.google.com/p/android-roms/downloads/detail?name=splhard1_update_signed.zip&can=2&q=

and now it wont even power....

Is it done for?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] twiztid907:
Yeah u need to be careful, flashing new radios and spls are very dangerous and best flashed from fast boot. Sorry but you sir are ****ed
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] th1rt3en:
****in ****.. thats lame, and Tmobile is saying they won't warranty it.. ridiculous.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] NetrixTardis:
Ridiculous they won't warranty a phone you bricked? Sounds just fine to me...all the rooting stuff does say it voids the warranty...
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] th1rt3en:
Yea, but if you cant tell, then whats the big deal. it just doesn't turn on.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] twiztid907:
tell them u reccieved an ota update and when it finished it wouldnt work :)
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] AdrianK:
That's what you get for not reading up about something which could harm your phone. I don't mean to add insult to ingury, but chances are you didn't even need HardSPL.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] C0dy:
It if you can't get into Fastboot or anything, you're screwed. But you shouldn't be flashing new radios or SPLs if you don't know if they are compatible with your phone.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] NetrixTardis:
There has been no OTA updates for the fender/mytouch 1.2. They won't believe that line...
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] llxll0m3g4llxll:
First you go about it very dumb like..... and then you start by saying that you was out and phone was all most dead. by the time you got home it was turned off.....bl@h....bl@h...........new phone. But by no-means do i support this action nore do I believe in any act of theft by deception!!! This can get you in trouble big time.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] sombionix:
First of all, if you're going to flash a rom that clearly states that you need the newest radio and SPL, you want to update those BEFORE you flash the rom. More than likely, that's what caused your boot loop. Second, do a little research before you start flashing things, if you had, you would know that you always update your radio before your SPL. That's where you went wrong, and that's what bricked your phone. Of course T-mobile isn't going to replace a phone that you bricked. Rooting your phone voids the warranty and a bricked device is definitely no exception.

Do you have insurance on your phone? You're better off taking it outside, running it over with you car and making an insurance claim. Problem solved.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] th1rt3en:
this thread was for help.. not for everyone to chime in about whether its ethically right for me to try and warranty.

If its helpful to me trying to get this thing going again, post, if not, just go to the next thread.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] sombionix:
Ethically speaking, I personally could care less if you CAN actually get your phone replaced under warranty. If you can, do it! As far as getting your bricked phone up and running again, its not going to happen. Like I said, you obviously flashed the SPL before updating the radio which bricked your phone, there's no turning back. So basically, you have three options.

1. Don't replace your phone and use it as a nice paper weight.

2. Lie your ass off to T-Mobile and get your phone replaced under warranty and cross your fingers they don't find out and tack additional charges to your account for voiding your warranty. Who cares about ethics or what anyone else says, its your call. Honestly, as long as your hardware is ok, they can reflash your device and will end up reselling your phone to someone else, so who cares.

3. If you have insurance, smash you phone, drop it in the toilet, throw it at the wall, anything. That's what insurance is for, of course then you're still stuck with pay some cash.
[HD2 General] pakistaniprince:
add more programs to like the "BAR" where they have the weather, FB, twitter, settings, messages that area?

help out a brotha :D
[HD2 General] Juv3nileR3j3ct:
Settings----> Personalize----> Home screen tabs
[HD2 General] leepriestenator:
It's called the Sense Slider.

You can't really add any additional "Programs" to the slider other than the ones that are already present, except for maybe some additional tabs from T-Mobile and a few other like Call History and Network TV that were created by some members here.
[HD2 General] pakistaniprince:
Thanks for the info :o but it was the answer i didnt want to hear lol :(
[EVO 4G General] Tilton53:
Sprint Data

Used

4,732,869KB/ Unlimited

21 days into my current period.

What about everyone else? O.o

Evo users only please.

To See your usage: Login to sprint.com then go-to "My Account" and then click the "See all usage" link.

This is not a see how much data you can rack upthread, it's merely to see what people have been using. Please do not go download a ton of huge files to boost your data for this. -.-
[EVO 4G General] michaelvibe:
4,123,742KB/ Unlimited

Since I activated about the 15th of last month lol

That was with a lot of tethering though
[EVO 4G General] Tilton53:
I haven't even been tethering and I don't watch youtube videos, but I do like to listen to pandora on my phone while mowing so that is probably where most of my data comes from.
[EVO 4G General] michaelvibe:
That is a massive chunk of data for just streaming Pandora, though I guess other things on the phone use data to *doh*

Guess all of that little usage adds up haha, most of mine was done in a roaming area as well, hope I don't get a nasty E-mail
[EVO 4G General] Tilton53:
XD

Well I have 6 acres of land I mow, so that's close to 30+ hours of streaming music.

So

192kps * 1800 minutes = 2531.250MB -- More or less. :3

And I did use skype for a few hours on my phone too, was neat really and worked well over 3G. XD
[EVO 4G General] HolySabre:
Im looking at a lil under a gb for half of my billing cycle
[EVO 4G General] wz_man:
Used

7,464,836KB/ Unlimited

I'm not really sure why I've used so much. Average use really. Some video, some music, a lot of application downloads, email, etc.

2 more days until it resets.
[EVO 4G General] EtherealRemnant:
When my data was working without cutting out every two megabytes, I blew threw 5.4gb in 22 days between all the rom downloads and apps and such. Plus all my browsing was exclusively on the phone. My laptop got like zero use.
[EVO 4G General] vladthedog:
Granted, this is from my palm pre days (just got my evo last friday) but I expect similar usage (prolly more.... actually) and there were months I would go over 10gb/mo. Most of that is from ampache (well, amdroid and lullaby on the evo). (fyi ampache is a private music server you can run to stream all your music). I had tethering available on my pre, but i almost never used it. streaming music was the biggest cause.
[EVO 4G General] danoftw:
2.6GB with 17 days remaining
[EVO 4G General] mikevillarroel:
336.327kb 16 days left
[EVO 4G General] th3b055:
220,149KB with 5 days left since 07/04/10.

But this can't possibly be right. I downloaded just yesterday about 600MB of data on Xbox Live and is not showing up on here..

I'm exclusively using my 4G as my only internet source..
[EVO 4G General] nenn:
i looked at my data usage, 71,744 and thought it was way low. then i see i have 29 days left! hahaha
[EVO 4G General] sandpa:
495 MB with 11 days left. Looks like I am a lightweight compared to some of you guys.
[EVO 4G General] oOflyeyesOo:
96.6gb as of yesterday when my bill cycle closed. Kinda suprised me. Would of hit a hundred easily if my computer wouldnt of crashed a few days ago, would of finished downloading my torrents.
[EVO 4G General] rdub4nd:
605,502kb on my first bill. But my Evo is my only sourse of internet for my PC. Im constantly teathered if Im home.
[EVO 4G General] topdawgn8:
9 days in, 1.8Gig down. Funny, because I don't think I use that much. Then again...I like to multi-task =).
[EVO 4G General] nenn:
awesome, just awesome.
[EVO 4G General] 2kmy477:
WOW...you alomost use 100gb a month?

Mine 4gb with 22 days left.
[EVO 4G General] strung:
YOU WIN !!
[EVO 4G General] Minjin:
150 megs last month. 160 megs so far this month (2/3 over).
[EVO 4G General] oOflyeyesOo:
I guess so :-p

And I didn't think I used that much this month, I didn't even think that I was even downloading that much, I usually download alot more.

:-p
[EVO 4G General] |Jason8|:
3,070 KB. I'm so lame. :(
[EVO 4G General] :
110 megs, using Alltell's towers, my data usage isn't showing on Sprint's site... so probably around 6 gigsish.
[EVO 4G General] |Jason8|:
Not to go off topic, but is that still working for you? I threw the Alltel PRL on my phone and it knocks me down to 1xRTT. Started happening ever since they pulled the roaming data counter off of the site. It makes me sad. :(
[EVO 4G General] coreykunak:
7gb this month lot of world cup streaming
[EVO 4G General] Geniusdog254:
So far in my 3 weeks on Sprint I have used ~7gigs. Which is low for me. On AT&T I would use >10gig every month. The most I ever used was 20gigs and that was with a ton of torrents and tethering.

Most of my use is actually on my phone though.
[EVO 4G General] Tilton53:
*facepalms*

Dude seriously people like you are idiots driving the cost up for other people.

It's a phone and it can tether sure, but you shouldn't ****ing abuse it to hell and back.
[EVO 4G General] oOflyeyesOo:
I pay that extra 10 bucks a month, I dont have a internet connection, so this treats me well. I only run torrents at night, not like im stealing anyone's bandwidth. They expect people to do this, they work their network so it doesn't just die, im not the only one.
[EVO 4G General] pbarrett:
Is 4g data counted?

My data usage always seems so low that I'm guessing it only counts 3g, not 4g.

Is anybody that primarily uses 4g when tethering seeing this too?