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[EVO 4G Android Development] chogardjr:
If you have "OS Monitor" free from the market it will show you why it is not working using pri 1.90 as it keeps searching for a channel 26 and switching back and forth trying to get it to turn on. This causes the CPU to run at 100% nonstop giving the appearance of a non sleep time. That's why those who changed the screen off sleep time didn't fix it but rather the downgrade to pri 1.77 fixes it. I've tested this on many roms and it does this on 90% of all the current roms. Just keep your pri at 1.77 and you'll be fine. I also tested the connection between a unrooted stock 3.70 with pri 1.90 and I see no difference in call quality or data connection. That's my 2dollars.

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[EVO 4G Android Development] ageesm:
Yes, you flash the PRI file just like anything else. Be aware though, with any of the radio/pri/nv updates the phone will actually reboot to a black screen with an update arrow phone icon, then will kick you back to recovery. Don't panic and make sure you let it do its thing. The people that have potential bricks have done a battery pull at this black/logo screen.

For the NV some people have flashed it some haven't. There is no definitive answers if it helps. For most people just downgrading the PRI has sufficed.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Atticustrd:
Yea when I flashed the radio combo it did that. But with the pri flash I just did it didnt. My pri says 1.77003 is this okay?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Atticustrd:
Thanks great explanation.
[EVO 4G Android Development] fujimoh:
Searched the entire post for "seidio" and only came up with one response from 11/10.

I just received the Seidio 3500 battery and am running Fresh 3.5.0.1 and SBC battery mod Kernel "HTC #15 v7" I was previously running the latest stable versions of Netarchy's kernel. After reading some of the posts on the possible issues involved with the SBC mod's I would like to start using something else.

Is there any recommendation on which Kernel to use that would help get the fullest battery life from the 3500 battery?

thanks.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xHausx:
A wall battery charger is a great investment, it will fully charge them to 100% but still has all the safeguards in place. For kernels the cfs havs work the best for me, bfs kernels feel unsteady and jumpy on my phone.
[EVO 4G Android Development] fujimoh:
The main Seidio thread also stated that a wall charger was the safest way to go, and I will probably end up just buying one since I invested in the battery (which I love). Exactly which Kernel are you using and are you using SetCPU as well, and if so what setting and any profiles? Thanks.
[EVO 4G Android Development] flipper12:
Thanks for the tips and info. Wondering if you could provide just a LITTLE more guidance as to how to utilize OS Monitor.

Based on your explanation, I downloaded the program to see if my phone was behaving as you explained. However, I can't seem to figure out WHERE in OS Monitor I should be looking for the 'searching' feature. Which tab should I be monitoring? (i.e., 'Process', 'Network', Connection', etc). Also, will it behave this way when you're utilizing WiFi vs. Sprint's network?

Thanks for your help....
[EVO 4G Android Development] kidrobot978:
Anyone using 4.3.1 hired tge battery life?
[EVO 4G Android Development] mwielgosz:
???

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[EVO 4G Android Development] kidrobot978:
Sorry meant to say hows the battery life I just flashed 4.3.1 havs nosbc anyone know if bsttery life good and I'm on sense
[EVO 4G Android Development] buck1623:
final results... im proud to say i think ive found my mix!
[EVO 4G Android Development] djnarcotics:
Any else experiencing high drainage with the latest sbc kernel 4.3.1 cfs havs? Or even know how to resolve this I'm also on pri 1.77
[EVO 4G Android Development] kidrobot978:
Well this work with pri version 1.90
[EVO 4G Android Development] mwielgosz:
It will, but many users are having issues with pri 1.90. Even the OP recommends using pri 1.77 and that goes for nearly any kernel. The newer pri seems to cause sleep issues and makes your cpu run full bore, draining your battery.

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[EVO 4G Android Development] kidrobot978:
How can I downgrade the pri to 1.77? I'm a newb
[EVO 4G Android Development] mwielgosz:
Download the 1.77 pri zip from calks radio thread and flash. Wait for it to complete (don't get worried if it keeps rebooting and showing unfamiliar screens as its still installing and you could brick your phone by doing so) then update your profile and prl.

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[EVO 4G Android Development] gpz1100:
Please don't quote the entire post unless necessary for the context of your reply. :confused:
[EVO 4G Android Development] deathsled:
PRI 1.90 w/ 4.3-bfs-havs-more-sbc-universal was battery drain city, could barely even charge

but....

PRI 1.77 w/ 4.3-bfs-havs-more-sbc-universal

and this is with my original oem red battery that got nuked the other day and took 3 days before it would allow a charge again.....scary.....

I would say this is light use. Texted a few people, had about 4 phone calls, mounted an SMB share and streamed some of my videos, played a little pandora, downloaded a couple apps from the market. The phone has been on wireless pretty much all weekend except for a few trips out to eat and to the grocery store where obviously it had to go back on 3g. I'm curious just how long I can drag this out before charging again. Then I'm going to see how fast I can run it down with moderate-heavy use.

All I can say is this kernel is bonkers.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kidrobot978:
how do i flash the pri 1.77 im a new to this im fully rooted and cant seem to flash the pri 1.77
[EVO 4G Android Development] chummer360:
Are you using SETCPU, if so what are you settings?
[EVO 4G Android Development] deathsled:
just download the zip and put it on your SD card and flash it via recovery like any rom or kernel or other update

You can find the zips for all pris and everything else in the very first hyperlink given in the original post.

No SetCPU, no Juice Defender, no nothing. Simply the kernel with no extra management.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kidrobot978:
ok i dont have to rename it?
[EVO 4G Android Development] deathsled:
no you do not. Are you sure you know what you're doing?

And you're installing this on an EVO right? I see your signature says you have a mytouch 3g
[EVO 4G Android Development] kidrobot978:
no that signature is old need to change it lol yes im doing it right wont let me install it when im recovery
[EVO 4G Android Development] netarchy:
Have you flashed unrevoked forever to get s-off in hboot?

It's required if you're going to flash one of calk's pri zips in recovery.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dag16:
Amazing performance, but as you said, very light use..

What are your settings?
[EVO 4G Android Development] kidrobot978:
yes and still wont let me is it because im using sock rom?
[EVO 4G Android Development] deathsled:
what settings? I have automatic syncing for everything off because that stuff doesn't need to update unless I'm actively using it lol. The Always On Data option is also disabled. The only widgets on my home screen are extended controls widget and battery monitor (and I don't even normally run that). I'm also using Launcher Pro.
[EVO 4G Android Development] freeza:
To those who have downgraded from PRI 1.90:

Did you downgrade because of horrible battery life? Or because your phone had 100% wake time?

I ask because i'm on PRI 1.90 and my phone sleeps just fine. However, I haven't been monitoring battery life enough to know if it is worse with 1.90 than with 1.77.

My phone sleeps fine and CPU usage has remained normal.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mwielgosz:
I downgraded because my phone was horribly sluggish...because my CPU was being used 100% of the time, which caused horrible battery life AND 100% wake time.

Users have downgraded for either one or a combination of both of these issues. I still can't understand why sprint would release a prl that causes so many issues with users, unless it's only us rooted users who are actually affected by this...
[EVO 4G Android Development] freeza:
That's interesting... lol

I had the sluggish performance & 100% awake time too when I first installed PRI 1.90 on a 3.30 based ROM. When I switched to a 3.70 based ROM, all of the issues with PRI 1.90 went away. What ROM are you using?
[EVO 4G Android Development] LuvThyMetal:
Wow how is that possible 2 days and you still had 50% battery life omg pease show me your tricks
[EVO 4G Android Development] LuvThyMetal:
Wth I could of swear I quoted that oops my bad
[EVO 4G Android Development] snovvman:
For those who have issues with 1.90 PRI and 100% wake or high CPU utilization, have you tried the procedure outlined in this post:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=10443968&postcount=2

It basically describes flashing the radio and ROM during the same instance so that the ROM boots with 1.90 PRI (and radio, etc.) for the first time.

When I have time to rebuild my phone, I will try it.

I would be curious to see if anyone has success with it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aph:
What happened to all the options? I want 4.3.1 with SBC and less HAVS.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mwielgosz:
When I first installed the updated radios, I was using Azreal 2.1 which was a 3.29 version rom. I downgraded PRI and it fixed the problem. A few weeks after the 3.70 OTA release, Azreal 3.0 was released on the 3.70 base and I switched to that. After installing the rom, I tried using the 1.90 PRI again...it was a little better, but it was still using my CPU all the time. It wasnt long before I downgraded to 1.77 again.

Currently, I'm running CyanogenMod 6.1.2 and don't plan on switching until a stable WiMax version becomes available (or just to test alphas for a bit) or CM7 is released. I haven't tested the 1.90 PRI since installing CM but IMO, I don't really care anyways as 1.77 works fine for me ATM.

Sorry to pull this thread OT!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] BuddaBelly:
Net stated earlier that he would not be including SBC into his new releases. If you want SBC go to the OP and he has a link to the old SBC releases he had.
[EVO 4G Android Development] gpz1100:
I wasn't having severe cpu issues with PRI 1.90, but thought I'd give 1.77 a shot anyways.

Using the kernel in my sig, and radio ver 2.15.00.11.19 ( i didn't downgrade the radio). My rom is 3.70 based. I can't say there's much if any difference - maybe slightly lower batt consumption - then again, maybe its just the placebo effect.

I'm ~18 hours into a full charge now, with 52% battery remaining (3500 mah batt). There's been about 2-2.5 hrs of mostly 3g internet browsing with maybe an hour of wifi, few texts, email, some other playing around with non internet apps.

If I stop playing with the internet, I fully expect the batt to last well into evening. There was a noticeable change in batt consumption after switching to wifi - much less usage.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ls430cw:
I am using Azrael 3.0 with the new 4.3.1 BFS more have agg and am pulling a consistant 1540's on Quadrant. I have had the highest scores on the BFS kernals. I over clock to 1152 and it runs really smooth. No issues with the battery at all. Had my phone on for 90 min and still at 99% with light use. I run conservative on the Set CPU govenor. Screen off at 768/128.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jonlee83:
Hey guys,

Just an FYI. I have installed and tried 9 kernels over the weekend and this one I found to be the best.

I am currently using Azrael 3.1, Setcpu @ 1152, JD, and the circle battery mod on hardware version 0004 (just got the phone about a month ago).

I tried

-netarch toastmod 4.1.9.1 cfs havs universal signed

-netarchy toastmod 4.3 cfs havs more sbc universal signed

-netarchy toastmod 4.2.1 bfs bfq havs more smartass universal signed

-netarchy toastmod 4.2.1 cfs bfq havs less smartass universal signed

-netarchy toastmod 4.2.1 cfs bfq havs more smartass universal signed

-netarchy toastmod 4.3 cfs havs less sbc universal signed

-kingxkernel evo 11-2.6.32.24 flashable

-netarchy toastmod 4.1.9.1 cfs- havs universal signed

And the winner is :

-netarchy toastmod 4.2.1 cfs bfq havs less smartass universal signed

All the roms averages about 400mA when the screen was on and idling and when running programs.

When I used "netarchy toastmod 4.2.1 cfs bfq havs less smartass universal signed" the rom was chilling. I average about 100-200mA. My phone was not draining battery life.

This is just a FYI but if anyone tries the kernel, please let me know if you experience the same thing.
[EVO 4G Android Development] brol1k:
Hey net, I'm just asking, but, is it in the kernel where you can tweak the flash light for the camcorder to set it higher or lower? Or is that in the ruu? Because if its in the kernel I would love if you can male it brighter then what HTC set it to be, its just not bright enough I feel. :)

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[EVO 4G Android Development] Brandito:
i see a lot of people turning off stuff like gps, always on data and background syncing.

i keep those on all the time and get 20-24 hours use on average. even have weatherbug updating every 15 minutes following me on gps. htc weather gadget is at 1 hour.

i really don't think these things use near as much power as people seem to assume. in my battery history and usage they usually barely even register as using any significant power. i'm talking ~1-2% max.

besides i prefer having that stuff always keeping me up to date, it's why i have a smart phone :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] torankusu:
Hi all,

that's a good thing to do, people from now and on should post whether or not they have gps or wimax,etc.. on all the time also post time frame for syncing/updating on their news, stocks, weather etc.... that would clear out confusion with people that claim that have incredible amount of battery life, obviously those claims are true if they don't have any kind of stuff syncing in the background or pulling data every X amount of minutes. clear enough? :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] flooberz:
what kind of set up do you have?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Brandito:
stock battery, stock sense rom rooted s-off using nets 4.3 cfs havs more nosbc

setcpu set to 245-1228 conservative

245-460 conservative screen off (may switch to powersave)

i also use wifi exclusively at home, and only turn wifi off if i'm away from a wifi connection long enough for it to matter.

i'm at 23 hours right now at 45% battery. that's light texting, very light talk time, and quite a bit of word feud leaving my screen on. ~2 hours of screen on. 5 hours awake time. biggest partial wake usage contributor is kik messenger, and it's not much of a bar. i even have the friend stream and some other widgets updating quite a bit.

so it is light phone usage, but that's still near 30-40 hours on a charge.

i think a LOT of it has to do with how good service is where you spend the majority of your time. i get very good cell signal in my house. when i was in southern illinois i was averaging 11-12 hours if i was lucky and always had signal, just not very good signal. no roaming either.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kidrobot978:
You have pri 1.90 or 1.77 how you charge the phone?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Brandito:
running 1.90

i charge it with a 1a wall charger. ventev ecocharge to be precise. when i'm in the car a while i use a 2am rocketfish car charger (has a spot for a usb cord to plug in as well as the normal micro usb cord that is permanently attached)

i assume the 2a is split between the attached cord and the extra usb port. just going bye what the packaging said.
[EVO 4G Android Development] travisw0204:
I too am using Azrael 3.1. I'll try it out and let you know my findings. I've abandoned Set CPU because I've come to find out that I get the same results, if not better, without it. The kernels that use HAVS already do what Set CPU does and with both running Set CPU probably will do more harm than good.
[EVO 4G Android Development] adhusky:
I wonder if there is a way to prevent a device from rebooting at ~1.2GHz or higher?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Atticustrd:
Using 4.3.1 cfs havs. And downgraded to pri 1.77. At Idle phone keeps good battery. But when I use it im losing like 4% every 5 mins. Any idea why?
[EVO 4G Android Development] yubby:
same here too. using no setcpu. going to try out 4.3.1 cfs nohavs with setcpu. when my phone goes dead. running milkfroyo 4.30 pri 1.77
[EVO 4G Android Development] Atticustrd:
Do I need to downgrade my nv as well?
[EVO 4G Android Development] deathsled:
4.3 more havs sbc - still going!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Atticustrd:
Seems like youre not using your phone.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dag16:
Don't use your phone and you'll get that too!
[EVO 4G Android Development] deathsled:
I'm not using it like crazy but I'm not avoiding it. I have had phone calls, been texting people all day, fixed a proxy problem where I couldn't play youtube over 3g, took some screen shots, emailed myself, kept waking it up to check the time, etc.

I probably don't spend as much time using my phone as most people on here seem to I'll admit, but I'm definitely using it as I normally do. Getting to day 2 before was always a struggle, I usually always charge my phone at night because it's almost dead lol.

And dag16, you should have read to the end of the thread before posting lol....it seems you've only seen the 2 day screenshot so far haha
[EVO 4G Android Development] mildlydisturbed:
Lockups

Possible lockups on 4.3.1. BFS HAVS SBC

Had 2 occasions where the CPU usage went to 100 and stayed there making the phone inoperable. Once I had to do a power-off as opposed to reboot (SL quickboot) in order to get the phone working (a reboot brought it back up as slow as it was before)

The other time CPU pegged at 100 android system, I held the power button down trying to get the power down menu and the phone rebooted (without me choosing anything)

Most of the time the system runs 1-5% cpu when I'm looking, I've not had battery drain issues with the latest pri so I am running the latest (which could be it I suppose)

Running Sprintlovers 1-10 rom, but the lockups both happened on the previous which I think was 12-31.

HW 003
[EVO 4G Android Development] netarchy:
One of the issues with PRI 1.90 is it causing the cpu to be pegged at 100% (which also happens to cause accelerated battery drain).
[EVO 4G Android Development] Thedonk13:
Net, I miss my SBC but I don't wanna fry my battery or possibly kill my phone on the random off chance of winning the lottery of battery failure when using this kernel. Is there a way you can write the kernel to only charge to 4.1v, slightly below the max of 4.2v, thus sacrificing only a small amount of charge for the greater good of battery life? I am not a dev just a simple minded individual who loves SBC. Is this something that would be possible?
[EVO 4G Android Development] adhusky:
Can I ask you where did you get that 4.3 or 4.3.1 with SBC since 1st page which says no SBC?

Thanks in advance!
[EVO 4G Android Development] mildlydisturbed:
http://www.qap.la/~netarchy/ - right side, top frame... he's putting them there for anyone who still wants to risk it... such as me
[EVO 4G Android Development] superevilllama:
I flashed 4.3.1 netarchy-toastmod-cfs-nohavs-nosbc-universal after upgrading to 3.70 and noticed that 5 point multitouch is gone. Is this going to be added?
[EVO 4G Android Development] BuddaBelly:
It seems a lot of us have lost 5 point and are now left with 2 point. Net said he was looking into it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] live2ride96:
Yeah, my 5 point multi touch is gone too after flashing the same kernel with havs. :(
[EVO 4G Android Development] Admiral2145:
undervolting

there is no more undervolting with the new 4.3.1..... anyone know why and what happend? I want to try it, but not without more or less under voltage.... Oh yeah I use sbc and not going back....

TIA
[EVO 4G Android Development] blackroseMD1:
So, I know that some of these kernels say they are universal kernels. Does that mean that they can be used on AOSP roms, or is it just universal to Sense roms?
[EVO 4G Android Development] akarol:
What do you think?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Jason Black:
You can use it with any rom. Im using it with rooted sense 2.2

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[EVO 4G Android Development] Jason Black:
Dude whats with you guys?..

If you don't want to answer then dont even respond. If you ever work retail, you might just end up killing someone then... smh

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[EVO 4G Android Development] Jason Black:
It messed up someones battery.

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[EVO 4G Android Development] live2ride96:
Nope. Universal refers to all sense roms. You need an AOSP kernel for AOSP roms, like CM.
[EVO 4G Android Development] finsmaniac02:
Netarchy has always been Sense Kernel.

Universal means that there were some tweaks that used to be cooked into the kernels, but would override and/or lose some tweaks that the rom chefs had put in also.

Universal builds were when he figured out how to allow all of the tweaks that the chefs had used to stay in. Previously he had to make special kernels for certain roms that included their tweaks in this kernel to not lose them, now the kernel is "universal" and keeps all existing tweaks and can be used with every sense rom.

Also, about the undervolting, I am not sure why it is gone now? I do not think it hurt someone's battery, that was the SBC (I think even the SBC kernel thread had to have kernels pulled from it at this point). I would be happy to see undervolted kernels back
[EVO 4G Android Development] Jason Black:
What he said. L

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[EVO 4G Android Development] HondaCop:
Undervolting risks damaging your CPU. There is a reason why the Qualcomm/HTC Engineers decided the default voltages were safe for a reason. Otherwise they would have lowered these voltages and save on power consumption.

PS. My name is HondaCop and I approve this message.
[EVO 4G Android Development] blackroseMD1:
Yeah, that's what I thought. Damn, we need some more people working on AOSP kernels, especially now that the SBC ones have been taken down.
[EVO 4G Android Development] V1cmlb:
Just flashd 4.3.1 havs cfs sbc do I need setcpu ? ?
[EVO 4G Android Development] live2ride96:
Yeah, I remember when I was just starting to dig into my Nexus back in the day (ok, ok, so it was only about 9 months ago), there was a lot of debate about undervolting and whether it was harmful. The general consensus seemed to be that a very moderate uv was relatively safe, but wouldn't really provide much benefit anyway, so it was almost pointless. I wonder if that's why Net took it out. He seems to wanna lean toward safety lately, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but if I wanted a safe kernel, I'd stick with HTC's.
[EVO 4G Android Development] netarchy:
Undervolting does not risk damaging the cpu, nor is it gone. HAVS builds undervolt dynamically. Undervolting more than your particular phone can tolerate can result in some instability, typically revealed in sudden reboots.

OVERvolting risks damaging the cpu by definition, as you're pushing a power level past tolerance specification. That said, the total amount of power possible to push to the cpu is hardcapped in the kernel to avoid exceeding the max.

It's also an interesting bit of trivia that the HTC default voltages for the snapdragon cpu used in the evo are higher than the Qualcomm defaults for the same cpu.
[EVO 4G Android Development] BrianBusby2038:
+1Net F*ck the Honda Troll
[EVO 4G Android Development] HondaCop:
Obviously you didn't see I was being sarcastic, Net. I was just being sarcastic due to the mass hysteria the whole SBC debacle has turned into.

PS. My name is HondaCop and I approve this message.
[EVO 4G Android Development] HondaCop:
Bless you too.

PS. My name is HondaCop and I approve this message.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mutant13:
Thanks for the great kernel... 4.3 havs more sbc

Great battery life, been using this SBC for a couple of weeks with no problems...