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[EVO 4G Android Development] ernbrdn:
Any idea why every kernel in this post shows up as a 404 file not found when trying to download? Kernel Manager borks my wifi everytime I flash a kernel with it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
It looks like Netarchy's download site is down......:(. And isn't that a sign that maybe you shouldn't use Kernel Manager :rolleyes:?
[EVO 4G Android Development] TheMike1:
http://www.mediafire.com/?i5ihzxdzx3sd5

That link worked for me while netarchys site is down
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
Nice find! Went to the site to give you some Thanks for that :D.
[EVO 4G Android Development] brownhornet:
I dont know why but whenever i try to use the more aggressive sbc's it makes my phone burning hot. But the less aggressive works fine. They are universal for sense roms right?
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
Yes, but some phones just can't handle more aggressive. It's just the way it is, there's nothing wrong with your phone.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ernbrdn:
Well that's exactly what I thought, but since the download site was down and I had not other means to acquire the kernel I did what I had to do. Anyways, I just downloaded the kernel with kernel manager and flashed in recovery worked like a charm :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
Well there you go. Clearly a Kernel Manager issue then.
[EVO 4G Android Development] guht:
How to use or configure?

I just flashed "4.3.4-cfs-nohavs-noUV-nosbc (No Undervolting)" to my HTC EVO, and I am wondering how to configure it or use it?

I flashed this kernel because it sounds like a popular choice for battery management, and it supports underclocking?

So how would I configure it to get the most out of my battery?

And how would I underclock my HTC EVO?

Sorry for the n00b questions!
[EVO 4G Android Development] SpydaPig:
Download setCPU from the market. It'll let you overclock and underclock. You can also set profiles to your liking and change the governor. But for me personally i like running mine naked without setcpu. I run 4.3.2 and it runs like a champ and has given me the best battery life
[EVO 4G Android Development] 1mp4c:
links say 404 error for me :(
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
Try here: http://www.mediafire.com/?i5ihzxdzx3sd5.
[EVO 4G Android Development] 1mp4c:
Thanks that was just what I needed :-) are the links broken in the first post? I've dl them before without issues..
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
No problem. I saw the link on the last page, courtesy of TheMike1. It looks like his regular download site is down. I don't know.
[EVO 4G Android Development] netarchy:
Server is in a transition at the moment, the kernels are still available in kernel manager, I'll be adjusting the download links in the thread soon™
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
Thanks for the update Net :). Got a little worried there.
[EVO 4G Android Development] 1mp4c:
Kernel manager killed my boot.img yesterday so I flashed a new Rom, warmZ, and after trying ur links I went and dl kernel manager from the market and when I open it and give permission it force closes! Again thanks for pointing me to the files

Sent from my awesomesauce Warm Evo
[EVO 4G Android Development] GMschiller:
I've been running 4.3.2 sbc-haves-less for a while now on konikub's ESIII with good results... but I'm a flashaholic so I'm giving 4.3.4-cfs-havs-more-sbc a shot to see how I like it...

ALWAYS NANDROID BACKUP if you like the way your phone is running before you flashed it!
[EVO 4G Android Development] netarchy:
Download links should be fixed.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Andr3wD:
I'm going to sound like a complete newb. But since the Desire HD source code for Gingerbread is out, could you guys use that make a Gingerbread Sense kernel for the Evo? I'm on a Gingersense rom and have that 100% brightness problem :/.
[EVO 4G Android Development] chaotic646:
Im experiencing the high battery drain with PRI 1.90. I followed the link in the op and downloaded PRI/NV 1.77. I flashed them both but my phone still shows my PRI is 1.90. Any suggestions?
[EVO 4G Android Development] 1mp4c:
S-off? Wipe? Reboot after each install? Just some ideas u prolly already did or checked.

Sent from my awesomesauce Warm Evo
[EVO 4G Android Development] thunder2132:
If it's the same zip that I have (from the VirusRom threads) then it won't work in ClockworkMod 3.0. I haven't tried it in 2.5, but it does work in Ra's recovery.
[EVO 4G Android Development] luieavila:
Hdmi not working.

HDMI has all of a sudden stopped working on my two Evos. Phone freezes on screen as soon as the hdmi cable is plugged into the phone. Wondering if anyone else has experienced this and a possible solution. Thank you!
[EVO 4G Android Development] chefdrew:
+1 mine does the same
[EVO 4G Android Development] wings9130:
I'm trying to update my PRI but it doesn't seem to go through. Mine is still at 1.34. I tried both recoveries. Is it the same method as flashing a rom or kernel or am i missing something?
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
Not sure what that has to do with Netarchy's kernels, but you are correct. Just wipe cache and dalvik then flash. Are you sure you're S-off? Maybe try redownloading it and try again.

p.s. And I assume you got it from this thread, right?: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=715485
[EVO 4G Android Development] xfullmetal17:
Just out of curiosity, is the HAVS on the stable build less or more aggressive?

And do I have to give the battery time to recalibrate before I make a judgment call on its life?

question attack: Are there shell commands I can use to tweak the HAVS or overclock? Or do I need to obtain SetCPU?
[EVO 4G Android Development] dirkyd3rk:
There's 2 versions havs less and havs more, if you run a kernel with havs it WILL NOT play nice with setcpu at all. I don't recommend setcpu with havs.

This should take care of your questions.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=894880
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
The stable version (4.3.1) only has one type of havs, but I'm not sure which one it is equivalent to. I'm leaning toward less, but I don't know for sure. Also, you can use SetCPU with havs, see this post by netarchy.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dirkyd3rk:
Most people use setcpu to overclock and mainly to take advantage of the "profiles" feature. Setting screen off, charging, certain battery profiles with a more aggressive havs kernel probably isnt the best idea. The 4.3.1 has more of a "universal" havs that all phones should be able to play nice with (stable). I'm not saying you totally can't because I'm sure people use havs and setcpu but I just think its ineffective.
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
Havs and setcpu complement each other.

Setcpu will specify a range of clock speeds for a given set of conditions while a havs table will specify the range of voltages to supply for a given clock frequency. Additionally, the havs table goes from undervolting at low frequencies to an overvolt during overclocked frequencies.

It is completely effective using both in conjunction with each other if done correctly.

Sent on the go, from my evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dirkyd3rk:
Touchè salesman.
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
Not selling anything. Your experience might not of been positive, but it doesn't mean these tools are ineffective together as a general statement.

Sent on the go, from my evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dirkyd3rk:
I never said it was a fact I clearly stated "I" just think using them together is ineffective. I stand by my opinion.
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
That's cool, its just you advised another member that using the 2 is ineffective as if it was fact.

Sent on the go, from my evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dirkyd3rk:
Member asked a question and I gave him my thoughts/opinions on the issue. I was speaking from my pov/exp; I apologize for not speaking from your pov or the other 300k members. Next time I respond to someone's questions i'll make sure I ask the entire evo 4G forum how they would respond first.
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
Look, no need to be defensive. If you can make an argument with facts about why setcpu is ineffective with havs kernels, I will completely consider it and we can debate pros and cons. But its only your opinion as you stated, and my opinion is you shouldn't spread misinformation. There's no need to ask every xda member if its ok to share opinions.

Sent on the go, from my evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dirkyd3rk:
Im no expert on kernels, but the reason i said what i did is because from what ive learned/understand is that havs and setcpu are very similar (in a way). To my understanding havs reduces voltages while the screen is off right? Enter screen off profile in setcpu. So if havs is underclocking/undervolting while screen is off, doesnt it make it sort of redundant to set up all those profiles in setcpu while using a more aggressive havs kernel? Ive tried setting up multiple profiles with a more aggressive kernel (netarchys to be exact) and it seemed to almost make my phone do double the work for the same results thus decreasing my battery life; enter counter-productivity. Im not saying im right, I could be totally wrong about this all. I know havs effects voltages and setcpu effects processor speed in theory right? Im not trying to argue, and im sure its a common misconception that you cant use the two; ill retract my statement and just leave it at "based on my exp i got nothing good out of the combination"
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
Adaptive voltage scaling (AVS) table provides a range of voltages for a given cpu frequency. When at a specific frequency, AVS attempts the lowest voltage in the table and increases it until it doesn't detect any faults. This can be seen in the logcat. Hybrid AVS (HAVS) has voltage tables for the underclock frequencies (<998 MHz) and constant voltages at 998+ MHz, thus being a hybrid. AVS does not poll to determine if the screen is off or on, to my knowledge, but absolutely doesn't control the CPU speed.

You are absolutely correct about havs = voltages and setcpu = frequencies. What's missing here is cpu governors. For example the smartass governor will set a screen-off frequency of 384MHz by default. If the setcpu settings force a different range of frequencies and use smartass governor, I can see how the phone is battling itself.

I apologize. I didn't want to make a big deal of this. Although discussions like the last couple of posts adds some value in my opinion, I didn't want to be antagonizing or in any way to put you down. Its all good. Enjoy your evening. :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] dirkyd3rk:
Nah its cool man I know I came off as kind of a **** but I guess today just isn't my day. I'm glad we had this chat; its good to hear from another person especially on issues that aren't remotely close to my expertise lol. I learned something new and I actually took something out of this convo. Kernels have always been a subject I could never fully grasp but I do understand enough about them along w/ their role in the os and how they work. I guess since the world is supposedly ending tomorrow I might as well watch A Clockwork Orange one last time; that's how I want to go out lol.

Sent from my PC36100
[EVO 4G Android Development] FSPKwon:
wow glad you guys had that conversation too, lol cleared up alot of my own speculation, but i do see alot of this "phone doing double the work" and had that same concept in my head, i just use savaged-zen rc-4 when i need good battery life, and cm-7 when i want something fully featured and nice. i ditched undervolting for now until its more thoroughly investigated in a technical manner, because i can see how limiting the cpu and voltage while doing an intensive task can strain the system more, ex taking longer to do a specified task thus causing the system to operate more for longer, than quick and painless, i guess its about finding what works for your rev -_-
[EVO 4G Android Development] dirkyd3rk:
So you're getting better battery with savage than with cm7? I haven't tried their rom but I love their kernels. Undervolting seems to be the topic of discussion now with alot of kernels (tiamat, SZ, godmode). On another note, when I was running sense I ran the static undervolted kernel from this thread (4.3.1) and my phone absolutely hated it. I was dropping 10% every 35 mins with no usage.

Sent from my PC36100
[EVO 4G Android Development] a senile fungus:
@ coiledwire

Bravo for handling yourself so well.

You too dirkyd3rk.

You both set a good example

~ I'm a fungi
[EVO 4G Android Development] CheesyNutz:
damn glad i read this i normall keep my screen-off set at 499 with smartass .. was wondering why it would LAG so bad coming out of screen-off ..

that is if im understanding what your saying lol
[EVO 4G Android Development] xfullmetal17:
I'm getting a crapload of heat coming from my phone while I'm charging it, is that normal for a non-sbc kernel?

edit: there's a possibility it may have been the phone's case was being a heatsink for an external HDD, combined with the heat the battery generates on its own while charging...
[EVO 4G Android Development] dirkyd3rk:
Are you doing something on the phone while charging it? Perhaps there's an app that's throttling your cpu to 100%. My phone does that when im either playing games or browsing etc. I try not to mess with my phone much while its charging to be honest, don't want that sucker getting 2 hot! You should download battery monitor widget and keep an eye on you stats/temp. Sbc or not that's normal, although I did notice it more on sense roms than aosp but it does happen on both.

Sent from my PC36100
[EVO 4G Android Development] ralg0528:
so I been tracking MA with bmw and after 15 to 30mins after reaching 100% and 0ma positive its goes down to -2 ma -4 -8 and on. the longer the phone stay chargin using netarchy 4.3.4 cfs havs more sbc , did the same on using netarchy-toastmod-4.3.1-cfs-havs-sbc-universal.

got the same result the only difference was its take about 25 to 40 mins to reach -2ma after the phone been charging at 100%. i did try the bfs version too gettin about the same result.

wiped cache, dalvik cache flashed each kernel twice.

Is this normal behavior of the kernels? i read on a forum sbc kernel should never reach negative MA while charging. Thank.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dirkyd3rk:
That is correct, you shouldn't see any negative mA's once your phone hits 100%. Which battery widget are you using? Sometimes battery Widgets have the mA's in reverse as weird as that sounds. There is a setting in BMW that shows the mA's in reverse which could be your problem but im not sure. While in BMW unplug the charger then plug it back and exit the app and reopen.

Sent from my PC36100
[EVO 4G Android Development] xfullmetal17:
Well I found what was draining the battery... It was either the Google Music beta or Latitude, and I'm leaning more towards Latitude on this one. So now even the noUV/nosbc kernel is giving me some of the best battery I've had, plus HDMwIn. :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] ropodope:
this is why vaelek rules! his rom is freaking top notch.

ropodope
[EVO 4G Android Development] ralg0528:
I'm using BMW to track it. i have the same thing happen with all the netarchy sbc kernels so i dont know.
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
As long as its stable at that low -mA and you don't see any crazy spiking in BMW, you should be ok. The actual physical chips on your phone could have had the "zero" point shifted in the a/d converter, which would have BMW say you're at small neg instead of small positive. It's my personal assessment, but as long as you feel SBC is working to keep your battery charged I wouldn't worry too much about where the mA trace levels off.

Sent on the go, from my evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Krayvon:
NEwby Question

i got stock 3.70 rooted. ive messed around with other roms and found a couple(evervolv, cy) to help me with my battery life but they still have many issues that made me go back to sense rom.

its my understanding that kernel can make a huge difference in battery consumptions.

which kernel would be the best choice for stock sense rom rooted?

thanks in advance!:confused:
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
I normally use 4.3.2 cfs less havs. On stock battery I could go 18-20 hours easily. I haven't even tested how long I could go with my 2600 extended. I'm at 43% right now and been unplugged since 6:30am, I wireless tethered today for about 3 hours or so. All that was on same kernel except nohavs nosuv.

Whatever you do be sure to give your kernel 2-3 charge cycles before you decide.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Krayvon:
thanks budd. will try 4.3.2 cfs less havs. i dont do heavy usage. just ordrered 3500 extd batt!:D
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
No problem. I got my 2600 ext free from Sprint. ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] cheflarry:
How?
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
Perhaps by opening a chat session online and complain about very poor battery life you experience with the evo. Just a thought....

Sent on the go, from my evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Yup that's how. Plus I've been with them for like 9 years.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
I did the same thing :D.
[EVO 4G Android Development] stricklerjosh:
Did the exact same thing. They comped it on my next bill. Now I have a 2600 that lasts me 2 days on normal usage.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mystery_tx_man:
Does any of the older kernels have the mods to have "wired tether for root users" work? It works with the stock cm7 kernel but I want it to work on sense.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
I use 4.3.2 cfs sbc havs-more with Wired Tether on a Sense ROM, and 4g works fine, but not 3g.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ArmyAdams:
This might be a noob question, and if so i apologize.

but with the New gingerbread update coming on June 3rd manually, does netarchy have any plans on making custom kernals? Or does it matter? Im currently running your 4.3.2-cfs-sbc-havs-more and i love the battery life it gives me, but really want to use it on new sense roms the dev's are putting out.

Does that make sense?
[EVO 4G Android Development] :
You will need a new kernel. These ones might work, but it won't be pretty. Right now on the leaked GB release, it bugs out the camera display (still takes pics) and a few other quirks.

Once we get 2.3 and HTC releases their kernel source, I'm sure you will get a custom kernel from Netarchy.

Android 2.3 suggests a .35 kernel version or higher.
[EVO 4G Android Development] XevoX:
I've been using 4.3.4-cfs-havs-more-sbc for a while now, I've tried the other kernels but this one gives me the best battery life on Froyo. I tried the new Gingerbread update, but nandroid back to my previous set-up because it drained my battery quick. I hope Netarchy will update these kernels for Gingerbread once the source is released.
[EVO 4G Android Development] b0ricua:
Patience is a virtue. I'm sure netarchy is working hard on getting the community a kick-ass GB kernel!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Androidious:
Netarchy would have an updated kernel out the day the source was available. Unfortunately, it's HTC that takes their sweet ass time giving out the source code. So, we'll probably be waiting another 6 months just to get the stupid source for the GB kernel. And by then, well, we all know what'll be happening by then...
[EVO 4G Android Development] luieavila:
HDMI Mirroring Issue

I'm using Net 4.3.4 with HDMwIn and it has stopped mirroring. I plug in the cable and my phone freezes and needs a battery pull. I started clean with full wipe and re loading ROM, Warm 2.2 RLS5, and Kernel, Net 4.3.4, yet the problem continues. I'm having the same issue on my wife's evo as well.
[EVO 4G Android Development] b0ricua:
Yikes, didn't know that was the case....lame!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] wfrandy:
It is true the Netarchy needs the source to work his magic, but in the past HTC has made the source available within 30 days or so.
[EVO 4G Android Development] MCL1981:
This is odd. I installed 4.3.4-cfs-havs-more-sbc. But I'm not getting SBC functionality. I used to have 4.2.1 with SBC and it I had perfect SBC function. Any suggestions?
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
I have seen quite a few people complain about the lack of sbc working on 4.3.4. I just stuck with 4.3.2 and it worked perfectly.

p.s. I was running it until I flashed a GB ROM or I would still be using it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] MCL1981:
You were right. I downgraded to 4.3.2 and it works flawlessly, even with the latest PRI and NV.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ageesm:
Well, by law they are required to release it within 30 or 90 days of the new release (can't remember)...technically speaking. In the past I think it has been towards the back end of that window :(.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
Nice. I miss my Netarchy kernel. That source code can't come fast enough........
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
+1. Stock kernel sucks when you've ran a netarchy for any period of time.

Sent on the go, from my evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] irishgreen:
cant wait for new source code so u can put out some new killer kernals!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] dag16:
Confused.

By law?
[EVO 4G Android Development] :
Not by law, at least criminal law. They can refuse to release it, and at most face the possibility of a civil lawsuit. The kernel is licensed using the GPL license. Very very very summarizing this here, but HTC could face a civil lawsuit if it didn't release the code.

You'll have to read up on Open Source, the GPL, Copyright laws, and so much more.

I probably didn't do a good job of explaining this, but that's what Wikipedia and such are for. :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] Apo11on:
that is true, I was actually trying to look up that information myself the other day - what is the time frame allowed for source code release after the binaries are released? as it turns out, under current GPL v3 there is no timeframe...However, if you're developer, trying to build on top of released binaries and the source hasn't been released - you can file civil lawsuit any time. Last time that happened to HTC they claimed they were not developing from scratch, but making customizations to Google code and they claimed under GPL the conditions for releasing the sources are different for such circumstance.

There is also an issue of altering the sources, to not match the binaries, replacing code pieces they're not willing to share. HTC has been caught doing that, although it was not proven in court. in fact, the claim is they've released sources, which include some of the toastcfh's code
[EVO 4G Android Development] Apo11on:
Oh, and id be really surprised if netarchy made another build after the sources are released. I hope im wrong, but he no longer has an evo and is actively developing for nexus s.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Active_Matrix:
I hope you are wrong also!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] samsunghater:
seriously a nexus....you couldn't give me one wtf....samsuck sux :(
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
Netarchy did say he would post a new kernel when the source is released. I have no reason to believe otherwise.

Sent on the go, from my evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Krayvon:
hope

i sure hope so, i am in need!
[EVO 4G Android Development] cwbristow@cox.net:
Still got froyo 2.2,

Tried toast 4.3.4 nosbc, both more & less havs, from kernel manager,

Both borked wifi,

Located 4.3.2 after reading thru here some,

Wifi working with 4.3.2,

Oh, btw,

Thanx
[EVO 4G Android Development] fourcute:
i run you kernel 4.34 on my 2.33 sense 3.0 but camera not work

and play the moive not work

on screen write

help , can you tell me the mod not work on 2.33?
[EVO 4G Android Development] chaotic646:
This is a froyo kernel, it's not meant for 2.33. There are no custom kernels for gingerbread yet.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dvtmg704:
It's been a mth now and still no kernel for gb
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
Yep, still no source code from HTC. No source = no custom kernel from netarchy.
[EVO 4G Android Development] b0ricua:
= sad OG Evo users