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[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] padsmcnulty:
Ok, I get a message asking to update to 1.21 but before I said yes I thought I would check the forum just in case, and I am now more confused than before. So, a few simple yes and no answers to questions would be great.

I rooted my phone the other day to get rid of all the orange software. So now have a generic rom, etc. details:

Firmware update: 2.1-update1

Baseband version (radio): 32.30.00.28U_4.05.00.11 (had to install from SD after rooting as the radio that came with the generic ROM sim/network locked my phone - thanks to XDA members for swift reply and help!)

Kernal version: 2.6.29-82821fb5 htc-kernal@and18-2 #1

Build number: 1.15.405.4 CL155070 release-keys

Software number: 1.15.405.4

Browser version: WebKit 3.1

I had assumed that by rooting my phone I had unlocked it from Orange and could accept any updates from HTC etc without any problems. So, first stupid question - is that correct? am I completely unlocked from Orange?

Can I update 1.21 update with no ill effects?

If I install update will I be sim locked?

Can I get rid of sim lock by re installing radio as before?

If Froyo is eventually realesed and I update to it will it lock my phone back to Orange?

If I get locked by 1.21 can I just make a Goldcard and follow instructions for desire's with 0.80 bootloader and 1.21 firmware?

Sorry, I have tried search and reading (and reading and reading) but I ended up getting more and more confused. Am happy for simple yes/no answers as I quite happy to stick to 1.15.

Only things that worried me is that Orange 3G/mobile internet connection was all over the place today, on/off, on/off, could get, would then dissappeared - am hoping it was Orange and not the rooting I did the other day.

Hopefully the yes/no answers can be refered too for future posters with update/orange issues (just a thought)

Cheers
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ljesh:
First of all, there is a thread for the 1.21 update. Here it is: link

You could have asked there, or look through the thread if someone before you have asked the same question(s).

Second of all, there is a thread too about the 1.21 update and Orange branded phones: Here it is: link (and few others, but I will leave for you to find them on your own).

And now I got tired giving you links to threads already existing which cover most of your questions, which are on the first page of this subforum, so I dont have energy to answer the rest of your questions, sorry.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] padsmcnulty:
Hi,

Do you work for Orange Customer Services?

If you understood my post rather than just read it you would have realised that I had searched and read and that I had got confused.

Hence the apologetic tone of the post and request for simple yes/no answers.

So, you have been more than unhelpful. Your facetious reply will have taken you longer than to say yes/no to the questions. There really is no need.

Anyway, as you say, you're tired. I suggest Horlicks and an early night.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steve228uk:
If I install update will I be sim locked?

Probably. That or lose WiFi. It'll cost you less than a tenner to unlock though and I think it's worth it. I, as many others did got my unlock code from a guy on eBay. Got the code in minutes:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300434867258#ht_1893wt_911

Can I get rid of sim lock by re installing radio as before?

I honestly have no idea but I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere so I'm gonna say no as the bootloader is updated to 0.8 and disables downgrading.

If Froyo is eventually realesed and I update to it will it lock my phone back to Orange?

Nobody knows but if it does and you've bought an unlock code you can just pop it back in.

If I get locked by 1.21 can I just make a Goldcard and follow instructions for desire's with 0.80 bootloader and 1.21 firmware?

Again, no idea.

Update: I de-branded and unlocked my Orange Desire and it's working better than ever. Faster in places, important bug fixes, and better battery. Plus you get rid of the Orange crapware and get some space back! Definitely recommend
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] padsmcnulty:
Hi Steve,

Thanks for the reply (I got distracted by the Mighty Boosh). It's kind of cleared it up. I was wondering about agreeing to the update, but I'll wait until tomorrow and get an unlock code just in case (thanks for the link!). Seems the most sensible way.

There's no rush as I am happy with 1.15 really. It'll be interesting to see what happens when Froyo comes out from HTC.

I used to have WM phones and thought I'd get the Desire and stop my tinkering - Orange put paid to that with all the crap they put on the phone; Orange are so annoying sometimes!

Cheers :)

Paddy
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steve228uk:
I'm still wondering how they won "Best Network" last year. I've had nothing but problems with them since I switched from O2.

Personally I'd de-brand. Your phone'll function better and if you keep your goldcard in the phone whenever you update OTA there shouldn't be a problem. 1.21 has fixed a lot of the 1.15 issues that really niggled me.

Oh, and as for The Mighty Boosh; yeuch :P I'll stick to The IT Crowd ;)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djoni1980:
You have 2 options:

1) buy unlock code > insert gold card > do OTA update > it will simlock your phone > enter code > you will have unbranded and unlocked phone that you could update to Froyo OTA (when it appears) with goldcard inside

2) flash rooted update without radio:

http://rapidshare.com/files/395319842/rootedupdate-1.21.405.2-SU-2.1-signed.zip

(procedure for flashing depends on method you're using, fake flash or push files from your pc to enter recovery)

here's old school flash method taken from http://nimbu.amorvi.com/2010/05/how-to-root-your-htc-desire/

0. insert gold card and put rooted update on it

fake flash method is even easier (and safer), and I will recommend it

you will have 1.21 and preserve current radio version
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rolfd:
Ok, I get a message asking to update to 1.21 but before I said yes I thought I would check the forum just in case, and I am now more confused than before. So, a few simple yes and no answers to questions would be great.

I rooted my phone the other day to get rid of all the orange software. So now have a generic rom, etc. details:

Firmware update: 2.1-update1

Baseband version (radio): 32.30.00.28U_4.05.00.11 (had to install from SD after rooting as the radio that came with the generic ROM sim/network locked my phone - thanks to XDA members for swift reply and help!)

Kernal version: 2.6.29-82821fb5 htc-kernal@and18-2 #1

Build number: 1.15.405.4 CL155070 release-keys

Software number: 1.15.405.4

Browser version: WebKit 3.1

I had assumed that by rooting my phone I had unlocked it from Orange and could accept any updates from HTC etc without any problems. So, first stupid question - is that correct? am I completely unlocked from Orange?

Yes and no. You are now free from Orange crap, but if you accept an OTA upgrade you will lose root.

Can I update 1.21 update with no ill effects?

As has been advised, you should only update to 1.21 by using a rooted custom rom with the radio removed. Or update to it, and if you are sim locked, downgrade the radio (baseband)

If I install update will I be sim locked?

Probably yes

Can I get rid of sim lock by re installing radio as before?

Yep

If Froyo is eventually realesed and I update to it will it lock my phone back to Orange?]

Not if you wait and install the rom once the devs have worked on it and rooted it. Again, any official rom from HTC will unroot your phone.

If I get locked by 1.21 can I just make a Goldcard and follow instructions for desire's with 0.80 bootloader and 1.21 firmware?

Yes, as long as your bootloader is 0.80 or was upgraded to 0.80

Sorry, I have tried search and reading (and reading and reading) but I ended up getting more and more confused. Am happy for simple yes/no answers as I quite happy to stick to 1.15.

Only things that worried me is that Orange 3G/mobile internet connection was all over the place today, on/off, on/off, could get, would then dissappeared - am hoping it was Orange and not the rooting I did the other day.

Hopefully the yes/no answers can be refered too for future posters with update/orange issues (just a thought)

Cheers
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] avrahamov.avi:
Hello,

If I buy a HTC EVO 4G, device of course supports the generation of 4 (mobile operator companies in Israel is still no infrastructure for generation 4). And the divice Un-Locked - Does it work / support Israel?

Thanks in advance

Avi
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mpg187:
Is there a way to install Astro File manager without using the market? Because if I would need to install APKs in a situation where I don't have access to the market (No Internet access, etc.) I would need to use Astro File Manager and if I didn't have it installed I would need a way to install it without using the standard way of using the market...

Plus, it would save me bandwidth to install it from the SD Card each time...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] kekkle:
To answer this topic quickly. There is no way to install a apk without an apk installer. Be it astro or any other app. There just aint
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mpg187:
So then you have to get one from the Market? So if you cannot use the market (don't have a connection) you can't install it?

Damn, the next release should include and APK installed because I am sure most people use APKs. If not, then why would they be using Android.

PS, wow no real reply until the second page... (Edit:kekkle's post and this post were on the second page after nobnut filled the first page with troll posts, since then they were deleted so now it's on the first page)

PS2: 100th post :P
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] nobnut:
Seriously now...

There is a manual way you can install apks without an apk installer...

Download the apk onto your desktop/laptop. Remove the back panel from your desktop/laptop using a hammer (a claw hammer is best but you can use a pin hammer if you have no claw hammer).

Remove the battery cover from your device (your Android phone not your vibrating butt plug).

Using the tweezers you normally use to masturbate. Find the downloaded apk and carefully place it underneath the battery. Reinsert the battery and battery cover.

Before you restart the device, firmly knock the device against a hard surface like the wall or a hard floor about 15 times until you are sure you have started the kernel flux capacitor.

Then restart the device.

If the device fails to start normally, take it back to the stockist and tell them you were born retarded and that you want to trade it in for an iPhone.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bradavon:
If you've got an HTC Phone you can install ASTRO (or any APK) using HTC Sync.

Can a mod cleaned this thread up, it's 2 pages of *****ing.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mpg187:
Oh you can? I'll have to look into it. I only got HTC Sync working on one of my computers (Windows 7 64 Bit gave driver error, XP Tablet PC Edition had some kinda error installing). But it's good to know there are options...

I reported most of nobnut's posts here, so that should be happening soon :P
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Dc_striker:
Just use droid explorer and close this thread
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] lambstone:
or you can use adb to install apks.

so in short yes there are ways to install apk without market.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] TP2DH1:
I use Android Mate for my file manager. Also MybackupPro which backs up my apk's. Ones I download from the Market, phone browser or home computer all get put in one folder & merged with a backup on my sdcard. If I need an app later and in bad cell coverage can install without downloading again.

From what I understand only apps from the Market are updated so I try and download it there first.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mpg187:
No, there is no reason to close the thread just because nobnut trolled it...

I use Astro to backup to APK...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ahmerpar:
use andriod pc suite its really great
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dreno74:
Bluetooth to Handset....done!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] nicandris:
hmmmmm cmon guys help the guy out!! download sdk, and check the link in my signature. if you want more help pm me
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Fulkerson:
You just need to download the android sdk and set the usb debug setting on the phone (Settings > Application > Development). Then installing is as easy as running "adb install <package.apk>"
[EVO 4G General] patelkedar91:
I posted this on another forum... and got some positive feedback.

The update just miraculously increased my battery life tenfold!

I am 7 hours 12 minutes in and I am at 80% (using the battery indicator provided in settings, not by battery widget). I unrooted to install the update (yet it feels like I still have Hero_Over's ROM). Brightness at 50%.

I didn't use the phone that much today (I had class), but I used it inbetween breaks and whatnot. I guess pretty light usage.

I think the update messed with the radio/wifi performance.

What about you guys?

Edit: I know people have gotten 20+ hours with ROMS, but this is without one.

Hopefully ROMS increase the battery life even more.
[EVO 4G General] oblivion0:
Hi patelkedar,

I can't speak for everyone, but according to myself and other users that have responded to my post battery life improvement has been absolutely astounding as of this update.
[EVO 4G General] patelkedar91:
Blah. Sorry for double thread.

Search didn't go so well I guess.

Anyway, seems like everyone has seen major improvement.
[EVO 4G General] LearnIIBurn:
Totally agree. My battery life has improved vastly. I came from fresh 0.3 and EvolutionX. I had excellent battery life with both of those roms too. But I unrooted to give htc a shot at stock again and I am happy. Phone has been off charger since 7:30am and it's now 3:05pm, with moderate usage and on wifi i'm at 78%. I don't know what I would do without my EVO. I love this damn device.
[EVO 4G General] EtherealRemnant:
My battery life is phenomenal with the stock update. I was one of the ones who took the plunge and lost the ability to root for the time being :P but its performing so well I really don't care. They made everything run better and the battery was just a bonus.
[EVO 4G General] jpimpballa:
unevoked not working after 1.4xxx update

I uninstalled the superpermissions and unrevoked before updating. now it will not root obviously. tried to install setcpu and various other programs but will not work. this sucks.. i see no difference in battery life or speed....a lot of people think an update is a good thing sometimes, but it is not. HTC should just release froyo 2.2
[EVO 4G General] bluehaze:
Pretty much if you have alot of Facebook friends the battery life savings will be huge with this update, also if you use a Flickr account battery savings will be huge, it seems they fixed the issue with Flickr causing 100% awake time as well but didn't mention it...crossing my fingers anyway, so far haven't run into the issue after resetting up my Flickr Account.

P.S. The update seems very much worth losing root for now as it seems to have fixed many things not metnioned and some functions are way faster now, going to manage applications loads in 2-3 seconds now versus 10-20 before etc... There seem to be alot of fixes not mentioned.
[EVO 4G General] kellte2:
You guys mind posting your settings?

I'm at 9 hours and 40 minutes with exactly 50% battery remaining, but I haven't been using the phone like crazy. Some light web use and decent amount of texting all throughout the day. This is not an improvement from the pre-update era. Pretty much the same
[EVO 4G General] akarol:
HTC has released it already. It's Sprint now that has to smooth it over and make sure that it is compatible with their stock applications before releasing it to the masses.
[EVO 4G General] kellte2:
Correction: Google has released it already. HTC + Sprint need to smooth it over and make sure that it is compatible with their stock applications before releasing it to the masses.
[EVO 4G General] LearnIIBurn:
Phone also all around seems smoother in the sense UI especially. I'm enjoying my EVO again and actually using it as a cell phone now instead of a super-rapid-fire-rom-flashing addiction-device. Sometimes I forget that my cell phone is a cell phone and not a netbook (yet) lol. Cheers to HTC for the update!
[EVO 4G General] EtherealRemnant:
Ditto. I don't miss the custom ROMs, honestly. I haven't had a single FC since this ROM launched and the device feels much smoother and faster.
[Windows Mobile] shafizal:
hello to all

i have cooked a rom with Xda_uc it has four folders

*Copy2root

*install uc

*Manual

*Storage

when i put the cabs into storage it install automatically to storage card but when it install it shows the installation page ..;is there is any solution to do its in background without showing the installation notification ..

and what will i do if i want the cab install automatically to device without notification and in which folder i put my email settings provxml,pim backup etc...

will anyone please explain much more about Xda_uc

thanks to all
[Windows Mobile] cruiserrr:
I will try to give some hints:

xda_uc has two threads in the forum: one for cookers and another for end users. take a look to learn how to use and take the most out of it.

xda_uc is written in mortscript, by noonski.

you can post there and you will have for sure support from the developer and other active users.

for what I read I recommend you also take a look at sashami by bengalih. You can not find it here at xda, google for it. It is an automatic tool to restore any thing you want either manual or automatic, hidden or not. It is written with the same language.

it is a pending issue that somebody developes and publishes a light shasami that takes care only of the manual/hidden installation parts without launching the front end and autoconfiguration. The code by bengalih is so good! I once did these exercise but I do not keep these files anymore (fool me). You can find similar but not so good solutions in the mortscript compendium thread.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mskip:
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This thread will be cleaned periodically so dont take any offense if your message is deleted. Just trying to keep things clean so that new requests are easy to find.

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[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] g.lewarne:
as much as the tidy up is great, i truly believe that making the "Complete Leo Flashing video guide" and "how to flash everything" a bit less obvious to find (as these are after all intended for newcomers) is perhaps a little unwise.

ultimatly is up to XDA, but just my thoughts :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] appelflap:
Great idea: a sticky to collect stickies :) J

Just an additional thought: can't you guys define subfolders in a forum? Isn't it easier to have in each forum a subforum called stickies?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mskip:
If we start to notice an upsurge in posts asking how to flash then maybe a flashing guide will be stickied back in the forum but this way cuts down on people saying "well if that one is stickied why cant mine be stickied"..

Dont worry I will keep an eye on posts and act accordingly :)

Mark.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mskip:
A stickie roll-up thread is alot easier to manage. If a subforum called 'Stickies' was created then it would need maintaining and non stickie worthy post being moved which means more work (and none of us wants that) ;)

This way everything can be categorised and more useful info added.

Mark.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] appelflap:
Sounds as a really great idea. Now, all we need are some roll-up threads for roms, clocks, icons etc. :) So the reader can reduce his workload also (ahum)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] newstar:
bad idea :(

stickies was looking cool and these are easy for new users ..

specialy hsp thread , vbn files , must be sticky @ all !!!!!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Staxxthedan:
Interesting re-organisation. is this your idea Mark? if yes then you need a promotion.:eek::D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Flashmore:
On second thoughts, it is quite a nicely organised thread for the noob, I like.

Regards

Flashmore
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mskip:
No the concept has been around for a long time (originally created by a great mod called DaveShaw I think) I just modified it for the HD2 Forums.

Mark.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] appelflap:
But with this organization you can still easy find those important threads AND (and I like that very much) threads with much or new activity will "stick" themselves back on top of all threads. Very useful when something new is happening in one of those threads.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] RedBux:
Appreciate for the compilation

Regards
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] watchdog2003:
Hard SPL 3 package extract attempts fail

Help please

Many attempts extracting Hard SPL3 package gives the following message;

! F:\Software\HTC HD2\HD2 HARDSPL3 Package\HSPL3_PKG.zip: The archive is either in unknown format or damaged

Turned off antivirus, used winrar 64-bit and 7-zip 32-bit. Destination folder content zero files

Now adding an HTC HD2 to my profile