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[XPERIA X2 General] mtechfan:
Just thought I would drop by and say hello :)

Since my move to the X10, I am very happy indeed :D

They achieved root this week and this is going to open up a world of goodies :cool:

As far as IOS 4 is concerned, LOL! Don't be fooled by the Apple advertising campaign. Just google "iPhone security issues" and you will see what I mean. Besides, they just added features that should have been there in the first place! Nothing new, but they sure make the world think "Oh gosh! look at this shiny new phone! It's got all these cool new features!"

What a freaking joke!:rolleyes:
[XPERIA X2 General] Jolo_:
But they have done it, finally. So, what are the complaints now?

A really honest question: What feature is missing on the iOS now that we REALLY use day by day?

You can say:

- There's no 3G Videocall... I don't have ANY contacts with a video phone, and even, the first ones sure will be iPhone 4 owners. And, by the time that videocall be a REALLY standard, it will be the APPLE Standard.

- There's no Bluetooth Send and Receive files... Why? We have Internet, Mail, and the last time that I sent a file via BT was 2 or 3 years ago. BT transfer is unreliable, slow and unnecessary.

- SD Card, why? There are a 16GB and a 32GB version iPhone 4. Probably it will be even a 64GB version on the future.

- Removable battery, why?

And that's it.

Really... There's no more excuses. A year or two ago it really was. But not today.

Even, Windows Phone 7 will appear with a lot of cons: No Copy/Paste, No multitasking... I insist: it will take a couple of years to catch iOS and even Android. And, of course, there's an App Market that it will no show really interest: Skype dropped support, Mozilla too.

And even, the most important and the most relative thing to this thread: Apple really CARES about the Software support on these products. Users of 2008 iPhone 3G can Upgrade to iOS4, a two years ago phone.

What happened to the Xperia X1?

What is happening to us? We can even use officialy the accelerometer on our phones.

Some we're complaining about even cannot upgrade to MR2 by a clean language-localized version.

Do you think that the iPhone cannot notify a received SMS? Please...

This war is over. There's a winner, iOS, and even contenders, but they're still fighting: Android, BlackBerry, even WP7 in the future.

Windows Mobile? nope. It's dead, really.

Cheers.
[XPERIA X2 General] glavazg:
hahahaahhaha
[XPERIA X2 General] doministry:
Hahaha!

These are quite essential things on my device.

You say a bit of a bull**** here mate, sorry.

Bluetooth? It's marvellous. Instead of stupid sending email (?!)

or beeing forced to use iTunes I send files Phone -> PC or PC -> Phone. The best way.

Somebody is NEXT TO ME - so why the **** I should send EMAIL when

I can immediately send whatever by BT?! Funny...

SD card - well, first I can transfer content to any device without PC or whatever. I can also extract all the files from it even if my device is broken!!

And use the card for multiple devices, man that's easy to understand.

Removable battery?! ****. So when my iPhone battery is broken

I have to SEND my personal device to the company and WAIT? A joke?

Also when it freezes completely - no way to turn it off...

I can replace it with new...

Buy your iPhone, probably WM is just not for you.

WM is still superior to any iCrap anyway.
[XPERIA X2 General] vitc:
I suggest you another key to read: Microsoft has won the battle with Apple in computer war for a reason that isn't "oh great!" but... cheap. Apple has success with smartphones for a reason that isn't "oh cool!" but... marketing. Iphone (a good device anyway) has caught the market of cellphones users, not professional user who prefers to sync outlook or use a portable word processor.

Smartphones ARE computers, little computers, if you don't understant this one it's difficolt to explain the rest. Mouse and pens are everything but outdated, I makes graphical works and it would be difficult to use... fingers to work :eek: (...waiting for the Iphone with physical keys ;) )

Anyway, it's important you have found a device suitable for your needs, the perfect one doesn't exists.

Bye

P.S.: Apple was not born with Iphone, it is as old as Microsoft and they are old partners ;) so don't think Windows is dying...
[XPERIA X2 General] yummy-fun:
I guess its all just based on preferences

because in my opinion iphones are ****. hardware is outdated, UI is ugly, and phone is virtually locked (memory, kill switch). yeah it may have a Capacitive screen which supports multi-touch, but why? multi-touch only forces you to hold the device with two hands (ex. pinch zoom hold phone in one had use other hand to pinch) which i i would just prefer a double tap, plus the Capacitive screen requires you to use the fat part of your greasy finger (yes my hands get sweaty) where the resistive touch screen allows you to use both the fat part of your finger, or you fingernail/stylus for more accuracy. as for web browsers, according to some test i just ran (which included 8 browsers, safari, IE, skyfire, fennec, android 2.2 browser, uZard web p, opera mini 5, and opera mobile 10) safari tested almost as badly as IE and fennec (opera and android 2.2 browsers performed the best) and once more iphone will NEVER support flash, and they act like HTML5 is the future and is all you really need, but hell i still play farmvill, bloons tower defense, and watch youtube videos with skyfire with practicly no lag. Oh and the lack of hardware buttons on these modern phones... why?

moving on to windows mobile 7, looks very promising. app integration is well planned, the hardware on these phones will blow aways iphones, the panoramic UI is just damn sexy. trust me it'll be great, from what i saw (youtube videos) it will be an iphone killer

and as for your accelerometer issues you may want to check out this forum http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=681982 if you keep your phone, it fixes some of the bugs sorry for typing so much i have a lot to say. when ever i have an issue with winmo i find a fix, if something is wrong with the iphone they are stuck with it until the next update.
[XPERIA X2 General] Waco2:
It may be just me, but I absolutely don't get this thread. Jolo_, if you've decided that you want to switch your mobile OS, fine, but why do you have to bother writing anything in here? You think you'll enlighten us by your opinion? There are many different ones and what makes you think yours is the best? Suit yourself and let everyone else suit themselves. Also, stick to the people that share your opinion, who we're obviously not. I believe there was much more than enough pointless arguing all over the Internet, it's time to let it go. Yet again, it might be just me...
[XPERIA X2 General] lim eng seng:
totally agreed. sony ericsson@winmo is a crap. sigh...
[XPERIA X2 General] Jolo_:
See what you want to see.

If it's not dead yet, Windows Mobile life ends in a three or four months, when WP7 arrives.

Then, all our crappy WM phones will became useless, pointless (no new applications, no new developers). And gets worse: impossible to re-sell because NOBODY will want a Windows Mobile phone.

Think about it: we even haven't HardSPL for the X2 yet. And of course, this is never going to happen because the X2 is so locked that anyone isn't really working on it.

It's now or never: get rid of this crap or you'll stay the same and you'll lose money.

Cheers!

P.D.: Last post, sorry.
[XPERIA X2 General] doministry:
Silly.

So you really mean people use only devices purchased yesterday?

Nonsense.

So your beloved iPhone: people use the first gen one till today.

So what will happen to X2 when WP7 arrives?

My phone will explode? Disappear?

It will be working as it is now. There's plenty of apps to choose from anyway.

I don't install new thing every day..
[XPERIA X2 General] Xenithflare:
*shrug* I'll buy it for $100, if you think it's impossible to resell. :p
[XPERIA X2 General] yummy-fun:
everybody who reads this needs to first watch this video http://www.break.com/index/iphone-4-vs-htc-evo.html trust me it will make you laugh i guarantee it! and will hopefully settle some differences
[XPERIA X2 General] titus1:
Both WinMo and iOS are great...and I'm still lovin my X2. MR2 is heaven sent. I love SE's customization on it's UI. Love the Sliding Panel and they should incorporate it on their A200/300 platform (if they too go Touch). I don't know people..I can't "hate" my X2...

And it isn't dead yet..If xda shuts off, then perhaps.

You know what? you just want to justify getting the iphone by bad mouthing another. You still can get the Iphone....in silence.
[XPERIA X2 General] titus1:
And since you hated it oh so much (your X2)...can I have it. I'll accept it wholeheartedly.
[XPERIA X2 General] doministry:
Agreed.

iPhone is very attractive and very good in many areas

as well as many WM products.

Current WM 6.5.3 is heaven. I'd never replace it with other OS.

As for X2, it is great and I also love it,

for the design and for - for me - the best UI customization.

It wins with any SPB Shell or HTC solutions

(which are generally amazing of course) with it's simplicity and more "technical" design.

Of course the X2 firmwares story will stay as one of the biggest shames for SE company and it is unbelievable they messed this so bad.

Now I don't want any other phone. I just wait for WP7.
[XPERIA X2 General] Jolo_:
That's all. This s**t phone was turned on and it wasn't receiving incoming calls, even missed calls during this morning!

I have to reset and then, it worked again. 6 hours of calls missed, important calls, business.

I had switched to a ordinary low-cost phone while I try to get an iPhone.

Update: And, of course, it wasn't charging too. So I've got 10% battery, and it was connected all the night and the morning. This piece of crap it's the worse thing I've ever buyed in my entire life.
[XPERIA X2 General] doministry:
Horrible issues indeed!

But they seem strange, never ever had anything similar here!

You have a broken handset.
[XPERIA X2 General] leoxrd:
i'm tired of this phone too. buggy buggy and I don't think SE will ever fix this. SE really screwed up with this phone!!! even after mr2, a lot of problems encountered everyday.

I read from wmpoweruser rumored that SE is making a new wp7 phone? I hope it's true. I'm not a fan of SE, but I like its design and camera. I like windows phone.

i like iphone but i'll wait for wp7 just in case if wp7 rocks.

ios4 is not the winner btw. it is just good with speed, interface and stability. nothing groundbreaking about it or in iphone hardware. but it sure is a damn good stable and cool phone put together. but i'll wait for wp7. I really hope SE don't f up this time if the rumor is true!!!!! last chance for SE.
[XPERIA X2 General] Jolo_:
Hahahahah!
[XPERIA X2 General] Jolo_:
I must be a druken mad crazy guy to even think to buy a Windows Phone 7 based Sony Ericsson device (or even ANY other Sony Ericsson device) in my entire life again.
[XPERIA X2 General] doministry:
:)

The issues he's describing are indicating broken device, not bugs.

No missed calls & battery works fine here.
[XPERIA X2 General] lyteo:
After MR2 installation, it was running cool for quite some time. Then, few days ago, I again had few SOD's, freezes and stuff. Hate that unstable phone. Gonna replace it for iPhone (I use IOS4 on a iPod Touch, its lighspeed fast in comparison with turtle-speed X2). Thats why I got totally interested in iPhones.

I guess X2 is just the worse crap SE ever made.
[XPERIA X2 General] gunawan-1:
In my case, my X2 don't record miscalled,calls in, calls out. But no problem to receive or make calls. just don't record. Is there a way to fix?
[XPERIA X2 General] royalbloodvi:
I just bought an x10 mini pro, sick of x2 as well.. lets see the diff..
[XPERIA X2 General] doministry:
Interesting what you'll say.
[XPERIA X2 General] xykrond:
fair

first, i enjoyed the reading the exchange of ideas here.

second, i respect jolo for his help (at the thread entitled "Want a fix for the X2? Only us can do it"). it helped me stabilize me x2 a lot and now i'm loving my x2.

well. why choose when you can have both?

i like iphone4 because of it's speed, graphics... an eye candy in short. i use this phone for personal or other daily activities.

but at work, in the hospital, x2 is really helpful. keyboard, tv out, no limitations, etc...
[Desire General] waterworth:
I can't seem to get facebook contact pictures to update in the people/contacts app. The facebook pictures populated in contacts when first setup, but loads of my contacts have updated their facebook profile pics since and they just won't update on my Desire no matter what I do. I've sync'd, removed facebook, relinked contacts etc no joy. Anyone know how to make this update?
[Desire General] Vulpix:
I am having the same problem. Anyone able to help?
[Desire General] ratchetnclank:
Same here only way I can update is deleting the sync and re syncing.
[Desire General] williap:
This is well documented on here guys as something that needs fixing. The only way to get the pics updated is to remove your facebook account and then re-add it.

Various people I beleive have aready emailed HTC (including myself) about this problem.
[Desire General] StuRoid:
I have the exact same issue though about 2 weeks ago I noticed one of my contacts pictures had updated on my phone without me doing anything but it was only the 1 from what I can see and don't know what makes that one different from the rest
[Desire General] ruleamsterdam:
:(

I tried it and removed the FB account and also the FB app but after adding them back it won't load any FB contacts at all!!

The app works fine and the account show like it syncs but in contacts when i choose which ones to show it just says: facebook (0)

What gives?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] jianC:
Is it possible? I don't mind taking my phone apart but it looks very possible seeing that that the phones are nearly identical. I want the Touch Pro keyboard because it has the number keys on the top instead of symbols
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ajgoldie15:
Perhaps use the search feature. It is possible.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] SiL3nTKiLL:
prob just take it part and reconnect everything, should line up correctly
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ajgoldie15:
Most current ROMS also have a "Keyboard Selector". You obviously just select which keyboard you would be using.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] stylez:
Please use the search in future as has been answered many a time.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=490290

On that note thread closed.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Macmee:
I used to have cyanogen until 2.2 came out, then I downloaded some .zip and it gave me 2.2 which somehow seems to have gotten rid of cyanogen! Does this mean I will get OTA alerts and they will work? It says I'm running FRF50 at the moment.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sandtiger:
Probably
[EVO 4G General] midri:
So does anyone else think that perhaps HTC releases their devices incomplete and in ****ty states because they know they can half ass it and have the community pick up the slack? I know with out some of the big hitters on this forum most android phones would not be as feature rich as they are. How much of the community code do you think makes it into an HTC Sense release for a particular phone?
[EVO 4G General] Geniusdog254:
I would say very little makes it into a Sense release. Ideas might, but actual code, I doubt it.

Now into the actual AOSP branches, there is quite a bit of community code, which is also at the base of Sense ROMs of course. But I highly doubt any of our code is in the HTC code bases.
[EVO 4G General] MechaWolf:
It's ashamed too. Do they not realize what a freaking gold mine these forums are? They basically got brilliant guys fixing their bugs, finding new uses for their machines, and finding new ways to please their customers. If I was HTC, I would have a whole department just scouring forums like xda-developers for ways to improve my product...and for free too.
[EVO 4G General] Jye75:
Or maybe HTC has a group of developers that work for them to produce products that are more than adequate for the general public who purchase said products, and prefer to spend their time making more with less, instead of less with more. Better for HTC and all manufacturers really, to cater to the majority (of which we, in this forum are not a part of, as we are obviously the higher end users) for that is where the money is. Should note that there are far fewer geeks than there are "normal" people.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sporkman:
help a noob please
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] extrafuzzyllama:
download a irc app
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oOflyeyesOo:
Yeah, just search the market, I ran accross a few today.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrono:
use andchat

noob = helped
[EVO 4G General] muncheroo:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/23/poll-is-your-iphone-4-retina-display-seeing-yellow-spots/
[EVO 4G General] muncheroo:
o... also

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2475309&tstart=0

i hate to be a hater but damn it's kinda fun
[EVO 4G General] DaytonaZ33:
Mine works perfectly in hand with no tinting issues. My Evo on the other hand, pretty much hit every issue like it had a grocery list and didn't want to miss anything.
[EVO 4G General] k2snowboards88:
So if you hold the phone in such a way that you would never naturally hold the phone, then it gets a somewhat diminished signal? How horrible.

the screen issue is bad if it is common. It doesn't appear to be universal.
[EVO 4G General] muncheroo:
nice. i'm happy you don't have to deal with two ****ty handsets in a row... that'd just be terrible.

but hopefully this news will soothe the unease some evo owners have right now. even the infallible apple runs into qc issues
[EVO 4G General] muncheroo:
don't quote me on this but i think it's hte other way around... plus you gotta consider what a case is going to do to that reception
[EVO 4G General] AshMa:
How are you getting along with the smaller screen? Were you an iPhone 3GS user before the Evo?
[EVO 4G General] muncheroo:
treo 700p user before the EVO. but i relied on an ipod touch for a lot of things and no, i cna't go back to that smaller screen
[EVO 4G General] strung:
Interesting. Since the sides of the iPhone 4 are the antennae, when one holds it against his body he would also be electrically conducting part of the signal, and thereby affecting that signal somehow.
[EVO 4G General] muncheroo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ixIHyEPO5g
[EVO 4G General] AshMa:
Oops! I clicked on the wrong comment to quote. But thanks for your input as the iPod Touch is much the same.
[EVO 4G General] unknown_owner:
Well give me your EVO so I can do your grocery shopping for you. :D
[EVO 4G General] k2snowboards88:
If the phone in the video is representative of a lot of iphones, then that is pretty bad.
[EVO 4G General] unknown_owner:
I did a search on youtube for "iphone 4 issues" and for today only. There were a lot of post about this reception thing. seems like a lot of people are going to get this when they get their phones today.

I'm going to show the people at work that I can do a magic trick with their iPhone 4
[EVO 4G General] donatom3:
Haha, "watch as I make at&t disappear"
[EVO 4G General] howdyace:
How could this possibly not get noticed at testing? Was everyone at the bar drinking and not using it instead?

Silly apple.
[EVO 4G General] seriousblack25:
I can give a **** less.....Iphone still suck:rolleyes:
[EVO 4G General] coolguy949:
I met my friend tonight with the new iPhone 4. I am very impressed with the quality and feel of the product. Screen is awesome. My Evo looks huge next to it. Like abnormally mutant-like large. Every phone feels tiny to me now. My friend said that it looks like I have a mini iPad. :P
[EVO 4G General] magicalan:
Apple was planning to use us as an Antenna for the Iphone and give us cancer!! :o
[EVO 4G General] mrono:
Then sell ichemo lol
[EVO 4G General] drewX2:
Actually any issue is quite surprising for Apple considering they have only one major device every couple years and probably do an insane amount of testing.
[EVO 4G General] TooSlo:
They've put out a phone every year, I'm unsure where you get "every couple years?"

In regards to hand placement, I'm left handed, and by looking at the "line" placement, it looks if I held the phone, I could easily cover both of them.
[EVO 4G General] martouf13:
This is unfortunate for all the apple fan boys... This design flaw is really bad. Not sure how something like this could be overlooked.. Apple FTL.
[EVO 4G General] ramiss:
The only problem here is that Apple will fix their issues and HTC will just deny theirs and then XDA will be forced to pick up the pieces.
[EVO 4G General] jerryparid:
This holding the phone affecting your reception issue is way worse than glass separation. (Hint hint i-Phone)

Using the side frame as an antenna sounds like an awesome idea, but Apple might have forgotten about signal interference?
[EVO 4G General] mrono:
They should have put it just in the top IMO
[EVO 4G General] denny_1986:
so i guess those are some of the 100 new features Apple promised? :chuckle:
[EVO 4G General] lordrainkm:
How did you know about their iCancer plan?
[EVO 4G General] apexi350z:
Not only Apple controls what you use on the phone, it also controls how you hold the phone now.. LOL!

**Hopefully Jailbreak can fix this problem... NOT!
[EVO 4G General] muncheroo:
more perspective:

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2476103&tstart=0
[EVO 4G General] coolguy949:
I love this quote:

As much as I like the iPhone, it's funny hearing iPhone users gripe about multitasking battery drain. After all the years of being grinded by fanboys, we are all not so different after all.
[EVO 4G General] JustinChase:
In a stunning break from recent convention, Apple has actually named this uCancer.
[EVO 4G General] engagedtosmile:
I get to laugh because all of my friends are Apple fanboys so we constantly make fun of eachother Apple Vs Android. They made fun of my screen seperating yesterday, hours later these issues started popping up.

Payback is a *****.
[EVO 4G General] coolguy949:
This is all planned. Jobs has been testing their organic products with his prototype iLiver. By causing cancer they create a market for their newest product - the iBrain, with direct link to the Apple cloud and Steve Jobs. You can download apps to the brain to make you smarter. Welcome to the Matrix.
[EVO 4G General] Freelancerx:
its a new feature didn't you know? now apple people have to hold an iphone the correct way... duh... thats how steve jobs holds his.
[EVO 4G General] Pops_G:
I predicted this 3 weeks ago. I have no engineering background and it took me all of 10 seconds to think of it after I saw the antenna design.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6750027&postcount=9

HOW did this get all the way through apple's design process?!

To be fair this also happens with the EVO. Just not nearly as bad.
[EVO 4G General] muncheroo:
nice! called it!
[EVO 4G General] jerryparid:
iFanboi complaining about battery life. Apple is not magic. Can't write magic codes or 2200 battery technology.
[EVO 4G General] donatom3:
So wait Apple's "we may not do it first, but when we do it right" means that he wanted to make sure their half baked version of multi tasking could burn through more battery than any other OS could?
[EVO 4G General] muncheroo:
hahaha...

i gotta say thought apple did force companies like microsoft to may more attention to quality and user experience, but with android / windows 7, that whole our products 'just work' nonsense needs to stop.

this whole debacle should be a big lesson for the entire industry... stop trying to one-up each other with silly gimmicks and meaningless specs and just give us more quality products that are practical and reliable.
[EVO 4G General] unclepain:
If true, how in the world could that have gotten through Apple's testing?
[EVO 4G General] donatom3:
All their field testing was done with the new iphones hidden inside cases that made them look like 3gs iphones, so these guys were never actually touching the antenna.