yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[EVO 4G General] distortedloop:
Ah, okay, fair enough, but that wasn't clear from your post, and it wasn't addressing the issue I was in the post you quoted.

Your issue is that you can't get 4G at all where you're at (regardless of Sprint's map), whereas I was pointing out that, as the OP of the thread said, 4G eats battery life like there's no tomorrow. Unless you're tethered to an AC or DC power source for your EVO, you just need to be intelligent about when and how often you use the 4G service, since it clearly eats battery life rapidly.

I turned on 4G to see if there was a signal where I was at the other day and forgot to turn it off. Two hours later my unused phone was down to <50% battery charge. With the 4G radio off, I can go a full day and then some without a recharge with my normal use - which is pretty amazing compared to the other iPhones and Android phones I've used.

WiMax is going to be a frustrating thing for many until it's fully built out, sadly, especially with Sprint using it as a selling point on one of the best phones on the market right now. :-(
[EVO 4G General] kylelerner:
I get 100-200 kilobytes per SECOND. That's very normal for a 3G connection on any network? Correct me if I'm wrong. My buddies usually get around 70-120 kilobytes per second on their networks...AT&T and Verizon when we compare. They are usually jealous of my speeds [;

If you test results give you .5 megbits per second, then youre getting 62.5 kilobytes per second.

I think you have your data screwed up... .

The term mb/s means megabytes per second. (kb/s is kilobytes per second)

The term "mbps" refers to megabits per second. (kbps is kilobits per second)

You divide you're mega/kilobits per second by 8 to get your mega/kilobytes per second.

So if I'm getting about 150 kilobytes per second, then my speed would be 150x8= 1.2mbps....which definetely ain't bad on a 3G connection...
[EVO 4G General] mrono:
4G is nice, yes it does drain a lot of power but that doesn't bother me.

when i'm out and about 3G is powerful enough for my phone, i get good speeds on sprints 3G to be fine on the phone. When I tether i'd want more speed, so I turn on 4G but then it drains my battery. Magical solution, i'm tethering so i'll just plug my phone in to charge on my laptop, now i get 4G without the power drain, WOW!
[EVO 4G General] newborn1281:
Not that many people use Megabytes and Kilobytes for network transfer speeds they use Kilobits and Megabits for identifying network transfer speeds.
[EVO 4G General] distortedloop:
Okay, I'll correct you, since you're wrong.:) At least in terms of correcting my use of kb/s and mb/s.

I'm not sure how you're getting your speeds. Are you downloading files and timing them by hand, then doing the math to get the speed? Your results may be accurate, but your terms are incorrect.

All I do is use either Speedtest.net or Xtreme labs Speedtest apps, or hit one of the various speedtest websites. I'm just reporting the numbers that are displayed in the applications and websites I am using to check my speed.

Since I am just parroting the numbers off the tools I use, if I am doing it wrong, then the various speedtest apps and websites are as well. I doubt they're all doing it wrong after all these years.

It's always been my understanding that BITS are expressed with a small case b and BYTES are expressed with a large case B - a kb is kilobit, and kB is a kiloByte. Traditionally, also, if it's a "k" its 1000 (decimal) and if it's a "K" its 1028 (binary).

Also, there is no difference between the terms kbits/sec, kb/s, and kbps in terms of data rate transfers. They are all interchangeable. In this context, the "ps" is the same as "/s" - both are read as "per second". The small "k" stands for 1000 in decimal and the small "b" stands for "bits" as in a binary 1 or 0 (1/8th of a byte).

My understandings of all the above seem to be confirmed by Wikipedia's use of the terms in the same manner as I am: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_rate_units#Kilobit_per_second

which explains the following:

Kilobit per second

A kilobit per second (kbit/s or kb/s or kbps) is a unit of data transfer rate equal to:

1,000 bits per second or

125 bytes per second.

and further in the article at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_rate_units#Kilobyte_per_second

Kilobyte per second

A kilobyte per second (kB/s or kBps) is a unit of data transfer rate equal to:

8,000 bits per second, or

1,000 bytes per second, or

8 kilobits per second.

Anyways, I think you confused me when you used the terms kilobytes per second and kb/s interchangeably and stated you thought 150kb/s was great for 3G service in this post:

and I focused on the 150kb/s part, which trust me, is not good for 3G, it's more like EDGE.
[EVO 4G General] distortedloop:
I think we're really hijacking the original thread here and getting way off topic, and it might be better to move to another thread for future responses re: 3G speeds, such as this one: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=707751&page=3 , but while I won't argue that 1.2mb/s isn't bad, it's not that stellar for a modern 3G network, either.

I routinely get 1.4 to 1.9mb/s on AT&T iPhones, and 1.8 to 2.2mb/s on T-Mobile Nexus One here in the San Fernando Valley...and I got comparable speeds to that on my EVDO datacard from Sprint before I canceled it last year. 1.2mb/s in the big city here is the minimum I would allow as acceptable performance, I know that Sprint has done much better in the past, and that the competition is doing much better in the present.

FYI - Since you mentioned speeds along the 118/405 earlier, I tested after getting off the 118 at Woodley Avenue from the 118 Fwy all the way down to Sherman Way this morning, I did speedtests at every other major intersection. The results:

Devonshire = 1534kb/s, Lassen = 696kb/s, Nordhoff = 941kb/s, Roscoe = 457kb/s, Sherman Way = 806kb/s. I didn't dual test the whole way, but at Sherman Way the iPhone 4 pulled 1871kb/s. In my office just now it's averaging LESS than 300kb/s. There is definitely something wrong with Sprint's 3G in this area.

Back on topic:

If they'd hurry their butts up and get 4G to Los Angeles and the valley, I wouldn't give a rat's a$$ what 3G was like. I bought the EVO for two reasons - the large screen, and the gamble that 4G would be in LA pretty quickly and that I could live with 3G until it got here. I can't live with 3G if it's 400kb/s - I might as well go back to tethering my old Motorola Razr for that kind of speed! :eek:

I wish I had the problem that the original poster did: the ability to wonder if 4G is worth the battery life it costs you!
[EVO 4G General] nateroc:
So many limititations.. whether it is battery, coverage, or whether or not you are inside... It seems all great in theory.. but paying the extra 10$ for it is bullsh*t if you ask me.
[EVO 4G General] krosemm:
Here in Chicago I get 4G everywhere I go and I'm willing to give up battery life for 5+ mbps on the go.

We have technically advanced but not to the point where it's a perfect experience.
[EVO 4G General] asenduk:
enjoying my 4G speeds here in Houston

(:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jb_gP7YdTxs
[EVO 4G General] Genjinaro:
Is there a point? Hell yeah & I'm lovin it's statement!

6.1MBps Down & 1MBps up makes a happy camp in 4G.
[EVO 4G General] Beejis:
I have had great 3g with Sprint since I switched back to them back in '07, and they have only increased in speed since I have received my Evo. My Evo on 3g here in the Seattle area consistently gets 1.2mb +

Probably just depends on the area, not sure really though. If you get slow speeds it wouldn't hurt to call Sprint and find out if your phone could be defective.
[EVO 4G General] distortedloop:
I agree that location is probably a big factor, but I disagree that 1.2mb/s+ is great. My T-Mobile Nexus One consistently gets 1.8 to 2.5mb/s in the places I frequent (except my house, which flutters between EDGE and HSDPA). My iPhone 4 is consistently pulling 1.6 to 2.1mb/s, and I've been seeing spurts of up to 2.7mb/s showing up more and more. Those speeds on both are faster than I see a lot of people reporting they're getting on Sprint 4G. Crazy.

By the way, my EVO is lucky to get more than 400-600kb/s. Very frustrating.

I've picked up a Galaxy S to replace the EVO. I'm going to miss the EVO in some ways, but GS seems pretty sharp so far.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] mimocan:
I need the firmware ending with XXJF3, or the CSC file inside.

I will appreciate if someone can make a dump and upload it.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] ObliviA:
I have NL Galaxy S, how do i make a dump?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] mimocan:
you can use the program Odin to make the dump.

There is an option called Dump.

Just use this option and tell the program where to save the dump.

Thanks
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] mregeling:
i checked the dump checkbox but nothing happened ??

it is starting, file analys en then nothing
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] mimocan:
I think it's more complicated than I thought in the first place.

Just try it if you manage to put your device in recovery mode.

I will try it on my device and come back to you for step by step how to.

Anyway thank you very much.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] CosmicBlue2000:
I think, it's important to say, that not all Android applications will work on the TP2.

Circle Launcher for example. The necassary hardware is missing. But's hard to say what apps may work, because no app author puts in the app discription in the market, what hardware it needs.

How do you solve the problem? Trial and error or is there another way to find out, that an app can be used before you download, install and try it?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] demandarin:
easiest way for me is trial and error. if the app dont work, uninstall it. lol :p i have over 120 apps installed and over 330 apps backedup on my 2gig memory card. Ive found that most of those work. Im just stockpiling for when i get my new device that will be Android only OS. :p :D
[HTC Aria Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] attn1:
Because the development section is getting inundated with help requests, I've opened an IRC channel for those seeking help and those who would lend a hand.

Please try to use this first instead of posting the same questions and expressing the same frustrations as 100 people before you.

If you don't know how to use IRC, then just click on the following link and you can access the channel with your web browser. If you have a favorite IRC client, then you can probably figure out what to do from the link.

http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#liberatedAria

I hope this helps.

Thank you.
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic General] subhashwilliams:
Hi, I use HTC Touch viva and all of a sudden its touch screen stopped working, i did master reset, now the phone is not detected by my computer too.....can anyone help me out to solve this issue?
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic General] karthiksk:
Try another hard reset. If still not working try another ROM, your ROM must be buggy.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] al89nut:
Help me guys, you're my only hope...

I had installed the HTC mod keyboard (v25) and Google search by voice.

And it used to be that the mike appeared in 3 Banana and on the keyboard and I could dictate text into the body of emails and as notes.

I then updated both the keyboard (to v27) and the voice app (to the one in the market) and now while I can google search by voice, I can no longer dictate.

I can get the mike to appear on the mod keyboard, but when I press it, nothing happens (well, it switches to settings after a second or two), in other words no Speak Now comes up allowing me to dictate. I can't get the mike to appear on 3 Banana at all - it used to be in the homescreen widget.

PS

I have uninstalled and re-installed both items, rolled back both version numbers - still no work

What am I doing wrong????? Settings????

I am SURE I am not imagining it - I did used to be able to dictate text for emails, notes, etc.

EDIT

Well, it works now after not working. No idea why, didn't change anything....
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kevinsmbuk:
Sorry to be a noob but I cant think of a valid way to backup all my contacts on my phone and also any other data stored on the phone memory such as email account.

I have a problem whereby when my phone is set to vibrate, it doesn't when receiving a text message and I have tried all settings to make it, but to no avail, I have been advised to reset to factory settings to restore this back to normal.

Any ideas people?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dnlgee:
Your contacts should automatically sync to the Google servers if I'm not mistaken?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kevinsmbuk:
How do you mean? auto sync? are you reffering to the Sync mode on PC, or just by using the phone and using the internet google would take a copy?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] davebm:
Desire does auto backups for specific things, not for contacts though (if you are not syncing)

To backup your contacts manually go to People - > Menu ->Import/Export -> Export to SD card
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kevinsmbuk:
Hi sorry to revive an old thread, but how do you then reinstall the contacts after a factory reset?

Edit: Ignore that, People - menu - import export - import from sd card!
[Hero CDMA General] jkryspinjr:
For some reason SuperUser is not prompting when trying to apply settings to AutoKiller.

- Running Fresh 2.1.2.

- Complete Wipe.

- Dalvik Wipe.

- I've reflashed.

- USB Debugging is on.

Any tips/tricks for why Superuser is not prompting for apps needing root/superuser permissions?

Thanks!

Jerry
[Hero CDMA General] IJonnyQuestI:
Did you chmod the /su folders?

I can't post urls yet but here's a thread that I used.

/showthread.php?t=521580

adb shell chmod 4775 /system/xbin/su

adb shell chmod 4775 /system/bin/su
[Hero CDMA General] Kcarpenter:
EDIT: NVM I really need to actually read the posts instead of just the titles. :(
[Hero CDMA General] jkryspinjr:
Bingo.

Thank you. That worked for my autokiller settings!!!
[Hero CDMA General] whoiswes:
Same here. Must have forgotten to chmod the xbin directory.
[EVO 4G General] PLESTIUC:
Curious if anyone did it yet, any noticeable changes in behavior and how does it affect people using unrevoked?

So far the reports are

PROS:

- users say it fixes grounding issues so the screen is more responsive on flat surfaces

- users say the EVO runs faster/snapier overall

- improves WiFi (enables wireless N??) - unrevoked guys are working on an update to include the HTC upgrade- follow their twitter page: http://twitter.com/unrevoked

- improves net speeds

CONS:

- it breaks unrEVOked (and other root methods)

- reports of bricked EVOs when doing the 2nd upgrade (or better said the same upgrade twice) - Sprint temporarily pulled the upgrade and they are investigating . Upgrade should be back to being available soon
[EVO 4G General] EVOmaniac07:
Not sure but I just checked and it said no update available.

Sent from my PC36100
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
Man it took me like 4 hours to get through the full root thing so im not chancing it until someone can confirm whether this breaks root or not. Ill be following this thread.
[EVO 4G General] fecht:
no update available here either
[EVO 4G General] wortiz33:
i just down loaded it.. will report back
[EVO 4G General] PLESTIUC:
well, according to someone on Android Forums this update brakes unrevoked :(

so I guess I won't do it yet.
[EVO 4G General] StealthTH:
I downloaded it (plan on keeping my EVO stock for a bit until the official source is released) phone went through like 4 boot loops to complete the update. Seemed like a hefty update...I wonder if there are any undocumented changes? Be nice to see a full change log...or any change log when the phone is done updating.
[EVO 4G General] burgertime:
Also just checked...no update available.
[EVO 4G General] PLESTIUC:
strange how it is for some and not for others. location based?

would be interesting if anyone posted their location if it isn't in their profile.
[EVO 4G General] lordrainkm:
I installed it and broke unrevoked for me.
[EVO 4G General] skunkape:
this is an HTC update...not a FW update, correct?
[EVO 4G General] bcnice20:
Can someone download the update but not flash it n pull it from there SD card and post it I. the deg forum so it can be properly patched
[EVO 4G General] wortiz33:
i got it at 8am ..st.paul,MN
[EVO 4G General] qu1nn:
21MB update, downloading now.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
Reports from PPCGEEKS are confirming that unrevoked root does NOT work after this update.
[EVO 4G General] PLESTIUC:
correct. if you check under "Firmware Update" you won't find anything. need to check for "HTC Software Update" .

maybe that is where the confusion is with some people not getting and update available?

FYI: some people on Android Forums are reporting that the upgrade brakes their widgets so all widgets need to be removed and re-added. kind of a pain
[EVO 4G General] StealthTH:
well...one thing it didn't fix was 30fps...lol...too high of expectations? Although it is interesting that fps2d flashed some really high fps at times (and by times I mean microsecond blips), but the average was 30. Anecdotally the Wifi does seem faster. Retrieved a few updates from the marketplace and they downloaded almost as fast as my laptop.
[EVO 4G General] Sawdizzle:
I just downloaded it 40 mins ago, have yet to know what it did. Was a big update though.
[EVO 4G General] malibubts:
Downloading it now... I'm not rooted, but I'll let you guys know how it is.
[EVO 4G General] Holyrolla:
Are there any reports on what this "fixes", besides breaking the unRevoked method?
[EVO 4G General] martijua:
Wife and both just downloded and installed tje update. We are both currently running stock non rooted phones. San Antonio Tx
[EVO 4G General] StealthTH:
Seems that I can now pull down notifications window on any surface now...interesting.
[EVO 4G General] Anku13:
I just receive update at 8:53 AM in San Antonio, TX
[EVO 4G General] abiezer:
And..............
[EVO 4G General] PLESTIUC:
yeah, this has been confirmed by some other people on other forums.
[EVO 4G General] zone23:
It seems to have fixed the swiping issue for me at least. I can lay the device down and swipe around with one finger. Before the taskbar was unresponsive with a single finger on its back (kinda like the wife). WiFi signal "bars" are a little better don't know about the actual signal level.
[EVO 4G General] scriptx:
i hope she's not on xda!
[EVO 4G General] wortiz33:
lmfao!!!! i was thinking the same thing...
[EVO 4G General] qu1nn:
wow,

something like 3 reboots and a couple points where it appeared to stall out (got anxious) . Took a while to install....

couple of widgets had to be removed, re-added : POWER, Calwidget

qu1nn
[EVO 4G General] halorin:
Is there still a noticeable delay in Multitouch Visualizer?
[EVO 4G General] zone23:
I'm not seeing any.
[EVO 4G General] jerryparid:
Does it break root or just unrevoked root method (which no one uses anyways)?
[EVO 4G General] donatom3:
System is much more responsive now. Adding a widget to your home screen is instantaneous where before there was a good 5-10 second delay. Yes it breaks unrevoked. Overall the change in how responsive it is is worth that small incontinence for now.
[EVO 4G General] AdamLJ:
I'm updating my wifes Evo right now. I'll compare the input lag to mine once it's complete.
[EVO 4G General] AcIdC0R3:
I haven't downloaded this yet. I'm on an unrooted phone. Is there any way to grab this for the devs on here before I do? Let me know guys if so or no so otherwise I'm going through with it.
[EVO 4G General] Anku13:
Android Wallpaper option is gone... now just 3 option (Live, HTC and Gallery)
[EVO 4G General] asenduk:
YESSSS!

Wow! 4G responds quicker and more consistent on SpeedTest reports, and web browsing seems snappier.. I LIKES!!!!
[EVO 4G General] halorin:
This is the most exciting part of this update, to me. The lag where you'd move your finger and it'd take a while to catch up was a real pain to the experience.
[EVO 4G General] scriptx:
Has anyone who's rooted using Toasts processes 1 & 2 (full nand) tried this update? I'm in no rush to break anything, just curious if anyone has been brave (or foolish) enough to try.
[EVO 4G General] jerryparid:
Companies are getting more magical every day.

HTC can fix grounding issue with software.

Apple claims that they can fix antenna issue with software.
[EVO 4G General] StealthTH:
Wifi N seems to be enabled. Even though it wasn't the fastest N speed, my laptop was sitting at 300mbs and my EVO was connected at 60mbs.
[EVO 4G General] malibubts:
Seems a bit quicker overall. Menus and Home Screens are moving more fluid and faster. I'm having no issues with the top of the screen being dead, but it wasn't a huge issue for me to begin with. I didn't loose any of my widgets with the update like a few people have. It definitely does take a while though. I'll keep you posted throughout the day.
[EVO 4G General] kpoz:
Does it break TheBiles "Idiot-Proof" guide, which I combined with unrevoked2 custom recovery?
[EVO 4G General] EVOmaniac07:
Just got the update. Had to uncheck "scheduled updates". Phone seems to be a lot more responsive. I'm liking it alot! When I get home I'm going to try WiFi. Report back later

Sent from my PC36100
[EVO 4G General] asenduk:
Stock Android laucher looks to be missing
[EVO 4G General] brianfreytag:
/me wonders quietly if this will fix screen separation issues too...

I actually had no issues with screen separation, grounding issues, or anything.

I'm installing the upgrade right now. I'll let you know what happens with my root (nand). (should have done an effing nandroid backup first jic :( )
[EVO 4G General] kpoz:
Good luck! I'm eagerly waiting your response.
[EVO 4G General] SMARTPHONEPC:
Too bad about the 30fps..predictions for next root following this?:cool:

Anyone confirm Wi-Fi (N?) performance before & after? :)
[EVO 4G General] warmachine69:
I think it bricked my phone. All I see is an android and an exclamation point in a triangle.
[EVO 4G General] AdamLJ:
Side by side, the updated Evo seems to have the exact same input lag.
[EVO 4G General] skunkape:
i was wondering the same thing...

but i can only assume it will break root also.

i could be wrong though
[EVO 4G General] gmmorrell:
Can someone check the software versions (especially the radio) and what has changed.
[EVO 4G General] kpoz:
Were you rooted? If so, hold volume up then press the power button and boot into clockworkmod.
[EVO 4G General] jadehawk:
Good luck as well please report back on your results. I like to know if the toast root method still works after this update. Thank you.

sent from my HTC EVO
[EVO 4G General] kpoz:
baseband: 2.05.00.06.10

software 1.47.651.1

prl 60067

pri 1.34_003
[EVO 4G General] helpwithmy8525:
Update Breaks Keyboard!!

I don't know about anyone else, but after I installed the update, it broke my keyboard!! Well, it works, but I'm no longer able to press-and-hold a key, to get a number, symbol, or alternate character. (For example, pressing and holding 'a' allows you to type an exclamation point, or any of the different accented a's.) This is SO frustrating!! It's going to be a punctuation nightmare!! I have tried re-calibration as well as a factory-reset of the keyboard. Nothing worked. If anyone knows how to fix this, please let me know, ASAP!! Other than that, the grounding issue is fixed, and everything seems snapping. I didn't lose any widgets.

Thanks.
[EVO 4G General] mike.r.olson:
FreshEVO .3 stalls on my EVO while searching for the update. Maybe for good reason?
[EVO 4G General] catpunt:
Lol u must be using swype
[EVO 4G General] fapstick:
Kpoz can we assume from this info, that the update did not break toasts root methods?

I really don't like to assume though heh heh.

Thanks in advance!
[EVO 4G General] gmmorrell:
Wow! The radio took a huge jump from 1.39 to 2.05

Anyone noticing better reception? Especially in 4G. I am apparently surrounded by 4G here in chicago burbs but I can never lock into it.