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[EVO 4G Accessories] redrazr7791:
+1 for Handhelditems Anti-Glare screen protectors.

3-pack for $9.99 with discount code off the net. Provides good screen protection while maintaining smoothness. Another good thing is that it never collects dirt of grime :D
[EVO 4G Accessories] topdnbass:
Glare isnt a huge issue for me.

Currently i can see enough to get by in sunlight.

So which one is it guys? :p Is there any protector binded with an oleophobic coat?

Also, again, are the zaggs for the screen recommended?

If it's all the same then I might as well use my 50% off code and get a zagg.

Thanks for the input.
[EVO 4G Accessories] sweteg:
Have you looked into the SGP oleophobic one they sell? Last time I checked, zagg has a rubbery feel which you said you wanted to avoid. Not sure if that's what you need.
[EVO 4G Accessories] senormatt:
I tried their anti-fingerprint one and it makes a huge difference to the appearance of the screen in a bad way.
[EVO 4G Accessories] thecodemonk:
o_O I just give it a quick swipe with the side of my palm or on my pants and any fingerprints that were there are gone (no different from the Hero which, I believe, had an oleophobic coating)
[EVO 4G Accessories] SiL3nTKiLL:
mine gets a TON of fingerprints, i just clean it daily lol
[EVO 4G Accessories] theoner1:
Since putting on the Zagg full body invisible shield I haven't bother to notice any more finger print oil problems. Some hate it but I love mine, a little sticky but give me a nice little more grip when holding my phone (get us to it after a while).
[EVO 4G Accessories] anthonylokrn:
oleophobic or anti-glare static-adhesion will help a lot with smudges. Anti-glare will make the screen look a little grainy. And I can't comment on the oleophobic since I've never used on myself.
[EVO 4G Accessories] TheBiles:
I had a Boxwave Anti-Glare on my Hero, and it was amazing. Highly recommended.

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[EVO 4G Accessories] wase4711:
check out Wrapsol.com

its like a Zagg, but no orange peel; clear as a bell, as it resists fingerprints about 95% of the time..

you can get a front only, or a full kit
[Touch Cruise General] amubs:
Hello,

I want to know if there is a HTC_ime like keyboard available on Windows mobile.
[General Topics] ahmedm24:
I need help in converting back the rom in update.zip file back to system.img and boot.img
[General Topics] lufc:
What Device ? What Rom ? We need as much info about what it is you want us to help you with thanks:)
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] can90:
Hi. I have a LG Fathom and I want to cook its ROM. However, to cook that I guess I need its ROM first. If you know there to find its ROM or if you know how to dump the ROM, can you please help me?

Thanks
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] xdapants:
Install Microsoft's Network Monitor** (its free - netmon from now on, im lazy ) http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...1d-06cb-4658-b7f6-3088333d062f&displaylang=en

Close all your browser windows, instant messenger, email, anything that uses the network should be stopped while you do this.

Start netmon, and tell it to capture all the traffic on your network card.

Then start the lg-updater program (get it from lg directly), and have it check for updates for your phone.

Go back to network monitor and stop capturing traffic when it's done.

You can then either browse through the captured traffic in netmon directly, and see if you can find a url yourself (it'll be an exe or kdz file) or send me the capture file and I'll find it. :)

**If you're familiar with wireshark you could use that instead of netmon.
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] Dark9781:
Hey there can90. If you manage to get the base rom for the LG Fathom would you be able to post the link. There is some stuff in that phone that I'm sure others would love to port to other phones; including myself
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] TPMJB:
Can we flash unsigned roms to the Fathom?
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] xdapants:
Can90 managed to get me a network capture to look through, unfortunately it doesn't contain a reference to the stock rom. I assume this is because LG just hasn't uploaded it yet.

For anyone that wants to play with URLs to try and find it, this is the relevant portion of the response to lg's updater app.

<model>LGVS750SS</model>

<suffix>AVRZDB</suffix>

<esn_date>20100420</esn_date>

<sw_version />

<sw_url />

<sw_locale_url>/</sw_locale_url>

<sw_recommand_uri>AIC/GLOBAL</sw_recommand_uri>

<app_version />

<app_url />

<cs_em_flag>N</cs_em_flag>

<cs_em_uri>N</cs_em_uri>

<chip_type />

normally sw_url and sw_locale_url would have what we want, but they're empty :(
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] da_reeseboy:
Hopefuly I will be getting an LG Fathom tomorrow so I will try to help out here. Has anyone else had any luck snagging a complete ROM from LG's site yet?
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] xdapants:
Nobody that I've been able to find. :(

I have discovered there is a seemingly different (from the generic one used for the expo) updater for verizon.

I haven't actually looked at it yet, but it's different from the usual B2CAppSetup and is labelled as 1.0.1.8 (the generic one offered up on lg's site is 1.0.1.7) ( http://csmg.lgmobile.com:9002/client/app/Verizon/LGMobileUpdate.exe )

I'm not sure which one can90 used (I've pm'd him to find out and try the other) but if you've got a phone and a few minutes you could try them both. :)
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] da_reeseboy:
Just as an update - I joined the LG forums and posted a question on the fathom update. Here is the post - http://www.lgcommunity.com/forums/aff/6/aft/6481/afv/topic.aspx

When I find out there's an update I will let everyone know.
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] da_reeseboy:
I just checked the lg update tool and the fathom is on the list as of this morning! It wasn't there when I looked last night.
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] da_reeseboy:
Is it possible that the fathom update could be a cab file? so far I have this -

URL: /swdata/WEBSW/LGVS750/AVRZDB/VS750ZV5_06/VS750ZV5_06.SV5_06.P58006.R5.cab

Edit:

link here - http://csmg.lgmobile.com:9002/swdat.../VS750ZV5_06/VS750ZV5_06.SV5_06.P58006.R5.cab

Is this whats needed? Not trying to push for an answer, just updating and asking...
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] xdapants:
This doesn't appear to be a real cab file....not one that anything I've got recognizes anyways

Windows explorer opened it when others couldn't :confused:

At 130 megs it probably is what we're after, just in a new (to me at least) format. Did you try flashing it?

Running "strings" against it the first few turned up are

These are the contents of the cab file

VS750ZV5_06.SV5_06.P58006.R5.wdb

VS750_W_1_0_7_0.dll

VS750ZV5_06.SV5_06.P58006.R5.wdh

the wdh/wdb are not extensions I'm familiar with and I'd be more than a bit surprised if it was a ms works database. ;) I'll try and take a closer look at the file later today if nobody else has by then.

Edit: Apparently that's the same packaging the vs740 came in. From what I could find, people hadn't been able to find tools to successfully unpack the wdb.

Going through the flashing process should leave a .bin file in the usual lgmobileax location, not clear whether that's something we can unpack with existing tools either.
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] Dark9781:
Hey there da_reeseboy. Great find on the firmware. Once quick question though that may help me get past where I am stuck extracting the firmware. What is the firmware version that is running on your fathom. If your not sure where to look, got to start menu/Settings/System/System Info and click on the plus box next to Version Info. What does it say after ROM?
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] da_reeseboy:
I don't have a version info with a plus sign next to it but under software version it says VS750ZV4
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] Dark9781:
Thanks da_reeseboy. I see that that is an older version than the cab from the updater program. I haven't had any success extracting the files. If someone with a fathom is willing to try this we may be able to get the rom. We would need someone to attempt to flash their phone to the new firmware. To do this run the updater program and connect your phone to your computer. Next, make sure you have an activesync connection and start update. It should place the phone in emergency download mode. The update program should start running, will detect your phone, download the new firmware and start loading it to your phone. This is where you will need to search for the rom. In win xp go to:

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\LGMOBILEAX\Phone

in win7:

C:\Users\All Users\LGMOBILEAX\Phone

The rom should be in that folder. Just simply copy it somewhere so that you have a copy of it after exiting the updater since the updater deletes the file after completion. After that we would just need you to upload the rom to a free file sever and post the link for someone to download.
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] da_reeseboy:
I'll be happy to try it in the morning with some coffee lol. I'll post my findings.

Edit: Do we want to try to pull the current version on my phone first before flashing the update? Just as something to compare to?
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] da_reeseboy:
just an update - I dumped the stock rom, then tried to do the update but my computer is saying that it can't connect to the com port. I'm gonna try it on my laptop when I get back home (family was hungry so we went to get food). does anyone know if the update tool has an issue with win7 64 bit vs 32 bit?

Edit: home now, started update on my laptop - its working great so there must be an issue with 64 bit...
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] da_reeseboy:
Update done. I snagged the files in that folder, but I don't think they will do us much good - its just the contents of the cab file.
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] da_reeseboy:
For those interested, here is the contents of the phone folder during the update -

http://www.multiupload.com/5ZA2Z2QB00
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] Dark9781:
Hey da_reeseboy. Thanks for trying. i was hoping that the updater would unpack the wdb file. Guess it didn't. You had mentioned something about dumping the original version on your phone. Do you have a copy of the dump?
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] da_reeseboy:
I just finished uploading it and a dump of the update -

VS750ZV4 - http://www.multiupload.com/M7FYR42S60

VS750ZV5 - http://www.multiupload.com/KTED97KZU3

Think we can do anything with these?
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] indagroove:
Check this thread for extracting the files:

http://www.lg-phones.org/lg-cookie-tricks-extract-custom-files-from-the-firmware.html
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] da_reeseboy:
And once again you step in and help me out. Thanks indagroove, you're freakin AWESOME!!!
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] trueg:
Does that mean you were able to extract the contents from the WDB file?
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] da_reeseboy:
Unfortunately not yet. I spoke too soon...
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] trueg:
No worries, your ROM dumps have provided me with everything that I was looking for.

For anyone who is interested, here are the extracted OEM and SYS folders from the two dumps uploaded on the previous page....

VS750 OEM & SYS - v4

http://www.multiupload.com/2DV1BYPJBX

VS750 OEM & SYS - v5

http://www.multiupload.com/ZE94HRWZC0

TrueG
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] da_reeseboy:
Glad I could help.
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] WoZZeR999:
Did you manage to get the data from the fat fs? It should have all the customizations needed to get some of the fun stuff like lockscreen gesture and media controls.
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] trueg:
It's all there. I simply renamed part02.raw to imgfs.bin and dumped it using LG Kitchen. I'm not interested in the XIP and SYS really, I just wanted the OEM software.
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] WoZZeR999:
Sorry, I was looking at part00 on dsk2, which is a fat file system, but I looked again, and it's empty.
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] trueg:
Sorry, I'm lost. What exactly are you trying to do?
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] WoZZeR999:
I had thought that there was an EXTRom with the fathom that had post-boot configs/customizations. Looks like most of the fun stuff is in OEMMisc.
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] trueg:
Indeed, I just cooked a ROM using the OEMMisc folder to see what is all there. It flashes fine, and I get as far as the calibration screen, but then it freezes and reboots. I guess my GW825 didn't like something in there. I will keep playing with it.

Update:

I was able to get it partially running. So far a few new things that I have noticed:

ArcMSG is now used for SMS and MMS

Brightness has a few more options

KeyLock allows you to configure the phone to lock on suspend

LG Camera has changed slightly

LG Switch USB allows you to switch between ActiveSync, VZAccess Manager and USB Mass Storage (not sure if this will work yet)

Sensor Setting allows you to control the Accelerometer, Light sensor, and proximity sensor.

Verizon uses Voice Recognition by Nuance
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] godashram:
Like what???

that's cool

how??

could be interesting

any better or worse than ms voice command?
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] Dark9781:
Hey there guys. Have any of you figured out what dlls are associated with LG Switchusb?
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] vprasad1:
I wasn't thrilled with the Voice Recognition by Nuance. My SCH-i760 used the Microsoft default voice recognition and it was pretty good. Trading up to a Fathom was great, but the Nuance VR proved to be a disappointment-- it required "training"-- and even then, it still wouldn't properly recognize my words. Upgrading to the latest Fathom software didn't make a difference, either.

Of course, the caveat here is that I've just sent my Fathom back to LG (past-store-return date) to fix some flaky stuff going on (from day one, the device kept forgetting my WPA and WEP keys for different networks; it also kept showing nearby SSIDs even when I un-ticked "Turn on available network notification"-- two problems I never had with my i760. And as of last week, Bing and other GPS apps were not finding me unless I disabled WiFi) -- so it is entirely possible that maybe just my Fathom's Nuance VR wasn't doing so well.
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] explisiv:
custom rom

so does this mean we can use cusom roms with manila 2.5 at least the core features like the comm manager and dialer? i hate the stock sms/mms and dialer. other then that that its a great device.

what are you flashing it with? and what all do I need to flash a lg is it anything like htc i made customs roms for the touch pro, diamond, and touch pro2.
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] trysomeothertime:
Update?

Guys,

Any updates? A custom ROM would be super for this device, but unfortunately, it seems that this phone is not too popular.

It is a shame really...snapdragon, qwerty keyboard, VERIZON, and Windows Mobile 6.5.3

Check out the forum on PPCGeeks as well
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] Teej53214:
If anyone is interested... This phone is on sale for just over $100 with no contract at http://www.buy.com/prod/lg-fathom-v...sm-bluetooth-3-2mp/q/loc/12435/220429365.html .... It has the 1ghz Snapdragon processor.. If we can get custom roms I would be all over this.. I love my TP2, but would love to to be faster
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] cac2us:
Free Fathom

http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...etail&selectedPhoneId=5334&deviceCategoryId=1

That's how I got mine back in Jan.
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] WeAreNotAlone:
$100 shipped, unlocked made the VS750 a good deal for me. (out of contract- No data plan, Data thru Wi-fi)

1Ghz CPU... nearest competitor at 50% $$$ more having 528mhz? 600mhz cpu...

With it being the last of the WM phones (Mature OS) I would think die hard WM fans would find the LG VS750 Fathom phone VERY attractive.

(As with PC's, say XP Pro I would think there are tons of WM die hards out there that are NOT planning on upgrading to Windows Phone 7 until they have to.)

I'm sort of surprised no one has been able to open, modify the rom and flash it back to the phone.

Q: Do other LG's use the wdb file?

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[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] trueg:
It was tricky, but Spocky was able to figure it out. I have built a custom ROM for my Fathom, but the method of flashing it back is rather tricky. Once I have some free time I will try and get it uploaded.

TrueG
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] returned4good:
Sweet man, thanks. A custom ROM is long overdue for this phone. Looking forward to an update.
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] luizorlandi:
Tks !!! :eek: :eek:

I will really appreciate a custom rom to your phone... can u post some screenshots to the "general public" ???

The standard ROM is kind off lasy to snapdragon processor...

Tks in advance !!! :D :D :D
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] WeAreNotAlone:
Glad to hear there will be custom roms for the vs750!!!

RE: Custom ROM for LG VS750 Fathom, Quad-Band World phone. New custom roms, info on building /flashing same.

It's past 3:00am :eek:- so I know about there never being enough time...

Saw your post today -while testing out a Android phone:confused:

Very glad that some CUSTOM ROMS for the LG VS750 Fathom are coming as I'm debating keeping the the VS750.

Regarding the CUSTOM ROMS - the ability to flash such...:)

All I can say is between the time you get some roms uploaded, fill us in on the details of how to create a flash file, how to flash it is STAY IN YOUR HOUSE AND DO NOT GO OUTSIDE.... DO NOT CROSS THE STREET, DO NOT TAKE ANY RISKS to endanger your health!, No drinking, no smoking, etc

STAY SAFE!!!! Whatever you do if you see a LG van pull up with blacked out windows...with men in black jump suits don't get into it... RUN as fast as you can!

On a serious note: You and Spocky are trading docs/files, right? (EG keep backup copies of your notes/work off site.) So many times I've seen great things go "poof" and disappear forever due to a loss of a hard drive, a break in or theft..

********

Reason interested in Android=

Plan itself offered unlimited data- ability to do VOIP, make calls over VOIP /Wifi.

I've heard on some plans you don't need a data plan to access the net via a Android phone?

Ability to customize, (custom roms)

Forums are very active... on most boards WM sections are becoming or are ghost towns...

Apps=

WM6.5 1,200 apps? Android 200,000

Android OS = Updates coming= WM 6.5 is a dead OS.

(Microsoft is making sure of that, Microsoft has closed the WM Marketplace via web access- and I think is totally nuking it via the phone itself come OCT-2011, turned off the MyPhone? Sync app.)

PS: A little off-topic but are there (low cost) options to do VOIP (Google Voice) on the VS750, WM 6.5.....3?
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] JMM2009:
custom rom for lg fathom !!!Awesome!!!

That sounds Great, I see a beer comming your way.:):)
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] WeAreNotAlone:
trueg,Any UPDATES on how the custom rom, flashing process for the LG Fantom VS750?

trueg- date of your last post was 9th August 2011, 01:19 AM

Any UPDATES on how the (WM 6.5.3) custom rom, flashing process for the LG Fantom VS750 is progressing?

(Any and all info, links to the thread that contains info on the flash, rom creation would be appreciated.)

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[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] da_reeseboy:
I'm definitely interested in an update too...Thanks to both trueg and spocky.

It would be awesome to develop some custom roms again.
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] pizzaboy192:
I'm glad to hear that there's a custom ROM possiblity for this phone. I'd love to see it properly built, not some half-assed attempt that LG did. I want it slim, light, with no crap at all. I'll pick the crap I want instead.
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] JMM2009:
Status update

Does anyone know if Spocky is close to sharing his kitchen for lg fathom?
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] spocky12:
Yes, I know it :D
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] da_reeseboy:
Can't wait to find out what you know :P
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] WeAreNotAlone:
ETA, Time frame for Custom WM roms for LG VS750 Fathom

RE:

ETA, Time frame for Custom WM roms for LG VS750 Fathom

Aug 9th 2011 trueg posts Spocky was able to figure "it" out.(Flashing a non stock rom to phone? /flashing procedure.)

trueg states he has built a custom rom for his VS750- that the flashing procedure is tricky- that when he has time he will try to get it /info on the process uploaded.

Several months go by....

Oct 9-2011 JMM2009 asks if Spocky is close to releasing his kitchen for the VS750:

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Ok, I'll bite...

Q: How much longer till kitchen release that adds VS750 support?

Oct, Nov, Dec 2011... or?

Q: Is Spocky waiting on Trueg for feedback?...

EG: Spocky not having a VS750 to flash /use as a test mule? Is there anything VS750 owners can do to help?

Q: Is it now possible to extract needed files from *.wdb, build a custom rom, flash back to VS750?

Q: Where are the threads How-To's, tips, discussions, docs,etc on extracting needed files from *.wdb, build a custom rom, flash back to VS750?

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[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] trueg:
When Spocky sent me a copy of the updated kitchen, he asked that I didn't give it out until he cleaned it up a bit. The cooking process is nearly identical to the LG eXpo.

The problem is the flashing process. Hopefully there is a way around this but when I flashed my Fathom I had to use hacked commercial software from LG. Obviously we can't posted pirated software here. Plus, if you don't correctly backup your phone you can easily brick it. I actually did brick my Fathom during one attempt, but I was able to restore it using a backup of the nvram.

TrueG
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] pizzaboy192:
would the flashing process documented Here work?

I know it works to flash any released LG ROM, and it's how I went from V7 to V5...
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] trueg:
No, I'm afraid not. This process works for official (encrypted) ROMs (it's the process I use myself), but not custom ROMs.

The flashing process is actually very similar to this...

http://cellphoneforums.net/lg/t294398-lgnpst-lg-programming-ap-flashing-firmware-tutorial.html

and uses the same software (LGNPST).
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] pizzaboy192:
So is the software on that forum the modified software, or would it need to be modified before it could be used to flash the ROM?

If the second is true, would it theoretically be possible to post instructions on how to modify the files instead of providing ones pre-modified? That way you aren't providing patched tools, but just a way to patch them? (Or roll the patch into a .ips file)?

Just some ideas to get around the legal issues.
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] trueg:
I'm not sure. The files are at home on my laptop. I could be wrong, but I believe the software is commercial and to get around the licensing a hacked exe is used instead of the original.
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] pizzaboy192:
Currently getting a copy I found. I'll check to see exactly what's modified with it.

Thanks to my school's access restrictions, I had to connect to my home server and download it... now I have a 2 hour wait as the file is uploaded to my PC.

EDIT: Just checked. Signatures are intact from LG. The software isn't cracked that I can tell.

Seems to be pretty easy to find online too.
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] spocky12:
Kitchen/tools/decrypted roms released here :)