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[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] lr4life:
Just saw that FRF85B just got released and is being pushed to some N1's.

I am looking to see of any developers have created a cooked version of the update that we could all flash on our rooted N1's.

Thanks!
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] MicroMod777:
Here's a Froyo FRF83 Keyboard I modified to look better!

To Install:

1) Nandroid Backup

2) Flash

3) Enjoy :)

Froyo FRF83 Keyboard Upgrade Download v1
[Android Software Development] gmonterrosa82:
I wasn't sure where to put this but any help would be appreciated. Lately my phone gets extremely hot, I'm running froyo 2.2 latest built. And I'm running launcher pro home replacement replacement with only 5 screens. And I have battery indicator telling me right now that the temp of my phone is 105.1F. How do I find out which app(s) is making my phone heat up?
[Android Software Development] Carloswithac:
Try looking at what's eating your battery then go from there.
[Android Software Development] gmonterrosa82:
It shows my display at 86% and android system at 8% those are the highest using battery...my backlight is at 50% brightness...would Anyone recommend having that set to auto brightness?
[Android Software Development] theycallmebrown:
i have my n1 set to auto and it still gets pretty hot. i have not had any issues with it over heating though so maybe give it a try. also, are you running a task killer? ive got security set to low, and it auto kills apps every 30 minutes or so. it seems to help out a bit, saves battery too.
[Android Software Development] T0yK4T:
I've had this problem since I updated to Froyo.

After a while, the data connection seems to be used -constantly-

and I really mean -constantly-, I'm also running Launcher Pro - So maybe there's something there?

As an earlier post said, the Screen appears to be the top "battery" user when looking at the battery stats (I've found these to be EXTREMELY unreliable though :( )

My screen is set to Auto, so I doubt that's where the problem is.

Also, in my case, it's the very bottom of the phone that gets hot (I believe that's where the antenna / actual chipset for the radio is?)

One thing I've found that "helps" so far, is to disable account sync, then re-enable it. Apparently that's what's causing an overuse of 3G for me. This only helps in some cases though.

Usually I just turn off data completely for a few seconds and re-enable it.

Any "tips" on what could be using that much data all the time (Maybe it's not even using the data, but just somehow trying to keep a single connection alive?) would be greatly appreciated. I'm honestly not sure here!

Any ways, that's what I've found out "so far".

/T0yK4T
[Android Software Development] gmonterrosa82:
Thanks for all the feedback and tips I will try all these things. But I agree and ever since I upgraded to froyo it gets extremely hot. And I'm running launcher pro but I tested it with the stock launcher and still gets hot....who knows....
[Android Software Development] Tasqa:
I'm having the same issue on my nexus. I have a custom rom with stack kernel and ADWLauncher with 3 screens and brightness on auto.

What should i do?
[Android Software Development] khaytsus:
Run System Panel, it'll show you any apps using CPU, and network stats.

Something is clearly wrong with your phones/config/cache/something, my Nexus One stays ICE COLD all of the time even with K9 mail with push IMAP, weather syncing, GPS uploading to my website every 10 minutes, etc..
[EVO 4G General] healthpellets:
stumbled on this tonight. maybe you've seen this site already, but it's someone's attempt to get some clarification on the $10 premium data fee.

check it out.

http://explainthefee.com
[EVO 4G General] donatom3:
What is to clarify? The$ 10 fee is for completely unlimited data. This has been beaten to death. If you don't want to pay the fee then don't get the phone.
[EVO 4G General] healthpellets:
i'm already paying for unlimited data.
[EVO 4G General] aldo37:
Then quit Sprint and go to another carrier.

FYI, the new Samsung Galaxy phone will have this $10 fee as well. So it's just going to be Sprint's way of doing things.
[EVO 4G General] Freelancerx:
no your not... every other device that uses 4g has a data cap...the only device with NO CAP is the evo (look it up and get informed)... hence the 10$

but speaking generally now, some people are natural born complainers...

i vote for this thread to get deleted or locked!
[EVO 4G General] donatom3:
All the new plans have a 5gb cap. This removes that cap. None of the old unlimited plans are compatible with the Evo.
[EVO 4G General] starplaya93:
Explainthefee is completely justified in "complaining" about being lied to. Sure sprint has the best overall plan prices and the evo is a great phone, but that doesn't justify adding additional charges and lying to your customers. I thought us "smart phone" users pride ourselves for not being like iphone users and believing everything steve jobs tells them...now we criticize one of our own for attempting to bring out the truth...you guys are pathetic. If you would visit explainthefee dot com, then you will see how bogus this additional fee is. If sprint is trying to make an extra buck, then id rather them come out and say that rather than lie to us and say that the fee is for "premium unlimited data", thats not included in our "non-premium unlimited data plans"

It's not the fee that pisses me off, its the principle...
[EVO 4G General] ramiss:
Sounds like marketing BS to me.

- With my Hero I had an Unlimited Simply Everything Plan and Sprint admitted that phones do not have the 5GB cap whereas the 4G laptop cards do.

- Then Sprint makes supposed new plans that have a cap.

- Evo is then suddenly not compatible with the old plans.

- Sprint adds a $10 fee to remove the cap from the new plans.

Personally I am not bothered by the $10 fee. What bothers me is that all of these explanations are completely transparent BS.

Sprint just needs to say that we are paying for the extra bandwidth and for them to create the 4G network around the country and stop making up stories.

Edit: And they better rename the Simply Evenythng Plan pretty quick. Obviously it isn't "Simply Everyting"
[EVO 4G General] donatom3:
What do you guys want obviously they ran some numbers and realized more people will use a lot more bandwidth with the Evo than phones past and figured that unlimited data on the Evo is a lot more than unlimited data on something else.
[EVO 4G General] healthpellets:
i JUST got off the phone with a call center supervisor. want to know why you're paying the extra $120 a year?

you have a snapdragon processor

you have two cameras, one is 8MP

you can video chat

you can download apps

you have LIVE WALLPAPER

you have a TOP OF THE LINE PHONE

swear to God...those are the reason i was given for paying the extra $10 a month.

you don't think it's ridiculous to pay what amounts to a $10 a month leasing fee for using a "top of the line" phone?
[EVO 4G General] coolguy949:
It's obvious Sprint threw on $10 to capitalize on the hype of the phone. They are just trying to figure out how to justify it. It's obvious it doesn't make sense. Their own employees can't even explain it. No one sounds convincing.

It's like having a solution in search of a problem.

Great site BTW, the guy that writes the articles sounds very sharp. Possibly a lawyer? Good arguing skill.
[EVO 4G General] jblazea50:
yeah, i don't mind the $10/month if they came out and explained the reason for it; when you click on the $10 premium data, they explain it by saying the phone has a wicket fast processor, oversized display, and some others; so in essence, the $10 fee has nothing to do with data; it is just for the hardware, even though we pay $199 with 2 year contract for the hardware;

yeah, the $240 for 2 year is pretty much like we are leasing the phone and have to pay them monthly for the phone

Edit: i also talked to reps from Sprint Corporate office and they didn't even know how to explain the charge; the guy was saying stuff like the fast processor, large screen, 8mp camera, video conferencing, youtube, watching movies, kickstand and such; he was pretty much stating all the features of the phone, but couldn't explain the fee at all; it's not like if the $10 fee wasn't there, some of those features would be disabled
[EVO 4G General] healthpellets:
in case you want to see it, here's Dan discussing 4G, and how it's cheaper to "produce" a GB of 4G than a GB of 3G.

"because we're not charging customers more but we're giving customers more..."

http://anitasdesk.spruz.com/videos.htm?a=&act=view-video&id=D64850B4-4482-42EA-9E22-DC9E507987D9
[EVO 4G General] pididente:
Return the phone and stay with a hero or blackberry...you're still within your 30 days. They're very nice phones and you can save $120 a year. No one has twisted your arm on this one. I don't like the answer to why the fee is there..but its there.
[EVO 4G General] LordLugard:
OMG dude, how late are you to the partee?? :p
[EVO 4G General] healthpellets:
apparently very, very late.
[EVO 4G General] clocker6633:
Are you ****ing serious? With an attitude like that you should own an iPhone. The bottom line is that Sprint saw a way to capitalize on the hype and make some extra cash. All these bull**** excuses they give are just that, bull****. I don't mind paying the extra $10.00 because I've figured out what it is for myself. I would have much more respect for Sprint if they just admitted what the charge is really for.

We live in a world of corporate double-speak where people are just either so ignorant or beaten down that they just take these guys at their word.
[EVO 4G General] donatom3:
Good point we should go to ATT where 5gb of data costs $55, and unlimited text is $20. That's $5 less than an Evo with its $10 charge, of course you still need to add in the base voice plan and the fact that doesn't include roaming, or the fact it's only 3g on a network that has nowhere near the 3g coverage of Sprint.
[EVO 4G General] Freelancerx:
lol the reason why i DONT own an iphone is that i actually think about what i buy (not just listen to the ramblings of a deranged tyrant) (or their equally deranged fanbase) as well as being an informed customer i also look at what i purchase from various points, and whether or not a whole package justifies my purchasing of said device, the evo does, i happen to really like 4g and i use it a fair amount of time so to me the 10$ is very much justifiable. I think we live in a world where people think that standing on top of their high chair and banging their kettle drum is going to change corporate business practices, they need to make money and the fact that iphone is such a prolific device speaks volumes to the average intelligence of consumers. As far as im concerned the more people buy a 4g the faster they will improve 4g service as well as support our device better. So frankly i dont give a damn if they started calling the 4g "magical" just like steve jobs, or for that matter whatever other corporate lingo they need to justify covering expenses. i hope they keep selling more and more
[EVO 4G General] ramiss:
They need to stop saying it is for Hardware. We all know that is a complete joke. I paid for my phone flat our for $449. Why is there a "rental" fee of $10 to use the hardware I already purchased? And for crying out loud why does the name of that fee include the word "data"?

Do they take us for Morons?

Sounds like the original explanation for this fee was for 4G, and then some intern pointed out that 4G doesn't exist everywhere. So apparently all of the Sprint PR department has quit and the Janitors are coming up with the explanations (no offence against Janitors).

I swear it is all a little too retarded for a corporation as big as Sprint.

The Hero was a top of the line phone that does 90% of what they say we are paying for. Why was there no fee for that?

*sigh*
[EVO 4G General] healthpellets:
oh, well obviously because you didn't have TWO cameras on your Hero. or a kickstand. :D
[EVO 4G General] ap3604:
Pretty sad for me that Sprint has followed this pricing route. They used to be a good 2nd option on prices behind T-mobile.

From now on EVERY new smartphone they come out with is going to cost $80/mo with that extra fee :(
[EVO 4G General] redrazr7791:
Compared to "other" carriers, I am saving about $20-25 a month. I was with Sprint for 5 years, decided to jump ship to 2 other carriers (one time with T-Mobile and AT&T) and now I am back. What is so hard to understand that for $10 a month you are getting Unlimited Data and if you live in a 4G area...Unlimited 4G Data?

If you don't like it then jump ship to another carrier. As it is, AT&T ditched their unlimited plan and Verizon is rumored to be going the same route. You can look at T-Mobile, but their minute plans are not that great and IMHO they did a dumb move by ditching the MyFaves option.

It might be a way to capitalize and make money, but I don't see that from stopping people from joining Sprint. Why do I say that? well...the phone has been out of stock for weeks!
[EVO 4G General] martijua:
My wife andf I could care less what Sprint calls the $10 fee.

We knew when we deicided to get the phones that they were going to cost us a combined $220 extra a year for that fee.

We see no point in people complaining or crying about the fee AFTER they have already agreed to pay it.

If you cant afford it then you were dumb to get the phone in the first place.

If you have a problem with the "reasons" Sprint gives for the fee then you should have never signed up with the EVO.

The $10 fee was there from the start so I dont see why people agree to pay it and then cry and complain about it afterwards.
[EVO 4G General] healthpellets:
You already pay for unlimited data. Call Sprint and ask them. It's not a fee for unlimited 4G.

but if you continue to want to hide your head in the sand, feel free.
[EVO 4G General] sfox8:
This. I mean seriously people. We all know what the fee really is. It's a way for Sprint to capitalize on the hype and gain more money to build up their 4G network without coming right out and saying it.

We all knew the $10 premium was there since well before the phone was even released. Why is this such an issue now? You all agreed to pay it when you signed up with Sprint and bought the phone and you're complaining NOW? After the fact?

Nobody is happy that Sprint is trying to cover up the real reasons but it makes no sense to complain at this point. They're not going to change it just because people complain about it. It's a company. That's how they make money. And at the end of the day, the EVO plan is STILL cheaper than any of the alternatives. Verizon's minimum plan for the Droid X only covers 450 minutes and a includes a data cap. Sprint gives you literally unlimited everything.

Sure, the premium is a load of crap but even with it, you still get a better deal for a top of the line phone (which quite frankly, still out-specs Verizon and AT&T's flagship phones).
[EVO 4G General] healthpellets:
it's nice that you speak for your wife.

and it's nice that ya'll see no point in complaining after the fact.

however, i can afford it. but of course, that's not the point.

of course, i can afford to pay the ridiculous taxes the government charges me, but that doesn't mean i think it's right.

it seems that you're a follower. someone that doesn't want to kick up a fuss when he's been wronged. someone that thinks his time on this earth is supposed to be suffering and that he'll get his reward for suffering after death. too bad i'm not that way.

so if you want to blindly follow along with everyone else while Sprint charges you every month for the privilege of simply owning your phone, well congratulations. you should have an easy life.
[EVO 4G General] sfox8:
The difference in that is that you HAVE to pay taxes. It's not an option. Nobody forced you to buy the EVO. There are plenty of other phone options. The Droid X on Verizon (though you'll still end up with a higher bill if you want similar data usage), the iPhone 4 on AT&T (same) or a nexusOne on T-Mobile. You could have even bought a Hero or a Windows Mobile phone, all of which do not include a "data premium" charge.

None of us is saying that it was right or okay for Sprint to charge $10 for no apparent reason. I don't like having to pay the extra $10 either, but all we're saying is that it makes no sense to willingly submit to something that you knew about already and then complain about it afterwards. We all knew what we were getting into well before the EVO was released. And we all decided that it didn't matter and we wanted the EVO anyway. If you really want to fight back about it then you need to speak with your wallet and not your mouth. As long as they have your money they don't care what you have to say. Return your phone and tell them why you're returning it. If enough people do that then they would have to do something about it.

Until then, there's no point in complaining about something that you willingly did yourself.
[EVO 4G General] redrazr7791:
I'm not a follower so don't give me that line of cr@p! If I was then I would still be paying a ridiculous bill with AT&T and have the new iPhone.

Seriously if you don't like it or feel that it is wrong to charge a fee for 4G data...then leave to another carrier. I have 4G in my town and it is worth the money. If sprint wants to charge a fee so they can build up their network to be able to support the usage, go for it. What do you want? For sprint to hold a press conference to reveal their true motive?

Either way...this is how it is and unless a lot of people decide to leave sprint or draw the attention of some governmental power to look into this fee, it is a waste of forum space to try and get out of it. Don't like it? Pay the ETF or return your phone and leave.
[EVO 4G General] baiatul:
The guy who made that site appears to be a teenage kid to me. He should be nicer, and he might get a response. And more supporters.
[EVO 4G General] Ikyo:
In the end it comes down to one thing--did you buy the phone? If you did, then you knew about the $10 fee and should stop crying. If you didn't buy the phone, then you can voice your opinion about the fee being an issue. You can't expect them to drop the fee when people keep buying the phone.

Another example of this is AT&T. How many people are upset that they changed their data plan from $30 unlimited to $25 for 2 gig? A lot of people are *****ing over it, but people are still buying the phone.

When you sit down and compare all of the numbers, Sprint is going to come out ahead of the other carriers in cost versus value.
[EVO 4G General] BrianDigital:
no your were paying for five gigs, all phones before said unlimited data, but ranged from caps of 2-5 gigs
[EVO 4G General] ramiss:
As I have stated, I have no problem paying the fee. My problem is with Sprints explanation of what the fee is for.

I honestly don't think they have come out with an honest answer and THAT is what bothers me.

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[EVO 4G General] beret9987:
I'm not a huge fan of the 10/month fee, but I do know I use vastly more data now than I did before somehow.. According to Sprint's website, I'm at the end of my billing cycle in 2 days and I've used 12.69 GBs of data ever since 6/4. I averaged about 1.5-2GBs/month on my Pre. That's an increase by a factor of 10 essentially! Sprint's plans still work out cheaper for me with my family anyways because of the Any Mobile, Any Time and Sprint has the cheapest options for unlimited international data. Sprint's reasons are BS for the fee, but I just figure its because of my high data usage and I can live with that.
[EVO 4G General] eagle63:
No, it's not unlimited - it's 5GB and has been that way for years. Haven't you learned yet that Sprint reps don't know anything? Read the terms of service. It's a 5GB cap. The $10 fee for the EVO gives you unlimited. End of story. The guy who created that website should slap himself for being so silly.
[EVO 4G General] healthpellets:
Call *2. ask for a supervisor. ask the supervisor to explain the $10 premium data fee. it's not for data. none of it.
[EVO 4G General] ramiss:
I don't buy it. You can't have a plan called "premium data..." And claim it has nothing to do with data! Its the stupidest thing I've heard in marketing in years!

They should admit it is a fee to remove the unspoken 5gb cap and I would be ecstatic. I would even pay an extra $20 to have "guaranteed" unlimited bandwidth.

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[EVO 4G General] jwolkenh:
Here you go, if all you wanted was Sprint's reason... Didn't take more than a minute to find on Google.

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From John Taylor, spokesman for Sprint Nextel on public policy issues

More Detail on the Sprint EVO 4G $10/Month Premium Data Charge

There have been a TON of questions about this monthly Premium Data charge. I hope this will clear things up.

If you buy the Sprint 4G EVO, you have to pay this $10 charge each month. This is specific to the device. It's not related to whether you are using 3G or 4G. It is required if you have the phone.

Because the phone has a faster processor, a huge 4.3 inch screen and an 8 megapixel camcorder/camera, we expect you will be using a lot more data than you would with our other devices. These features will give you capabilities that have previously never been available on a wireless device and we think they provide a premium experience. (Remember, this is the world's first 3G/4G Android phone.)

Separately, some have asked about the $29 a month hotspot charge. (You can connect up to 8 WiFi-enabled devices to one EVO if you pay that monthly charge -- but this is optional.)

I hope this clears things up. While some don't like it, even with these charges, we're still cheaper than AT&T and Verizon, whose 4G networks exist on some beautifully designed PowerPoint slides. ;-)

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[EVO 4G General] eagle63:
Like I said, sprint reps are morons. Read your terms of service.
[EVO 4G General] Sporkman:
then if the fee pisses you off so much take the phone back close your account and jump to another carrier pretty simple !

OBTW NO YOUR NOT
[EVO 4G General] healthpellets:
can someone post a TOS that doesn't have the EVO? cause as i understood it, phones never had a cap. broadband and stuff did, but phones didn't.

so if you have a TOS from a non-EVO phone, i'd like to look at that.

thanks.
[EVO 4G General] healthpellets:
awesome.

not a data charge. anyone care to differ?
[EVO 4G General] clocker6633:
I'm not asking for Sprint to change their fee. I knew about it when I bought the phone. I am asking Sprint to quit insulting my intelligence with the reasons they give for the fee. I've been given 3 different answers by 3 different representatives.

Is it so wrong to wish for a little bit of honesty? I don't consider it "*****ing and complaining" to request a truthful answer.

If you don't demand the truth or at least some semblance of the truth from the people you do business with how can you continue to do business with them and not worry they wont withhold a much larger truth from you down the road?
[EVO 4G General] ramiss:
/\/\ - Exactly!
[EVO 4G General] KyleK29:
They really messed up in their explanation. They should have simply declared it a "4G" fee. Because the phone has the ability to use 4G, there is an additional fee. That's how it should be explained. Not this stuff about the features of the device.

And that $25 (or whatever) hot-spot fee is hilarious. Just root and get wifi-tether. Done.
[EVO 4G General] igobyzach:
Why do I have to go to another carrier when Sprint basically contradicts themselves regarding this "premium data" fee.

As all of you should know Sprint owns Boost pre-paid, and in one of their recent commercials their spokeswoman Danica Patrick explains that she uses Boost so that she could use "all the basic features of her phone (Motorola Clutch) without paying for it" or something like that.

What the hell Sprint?!?:confused:

EDIT

I think the explainthefee.com site even talks about the Boost commercial I mentioned...
[EVO 4G General] BrianDigital:
its there its usually in all the commercials in fine print