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[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] TheRealCod3r:
How does Froyo run on the Dual? I'm thinking of getting a cheap dual just for android, so I have a few questions. How fast is it, do the apps work, and I saw that the data works, but partially? What does that mean? Not having Wi-Fi makes me use the data plan, so... :)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] youngsien:
yes, froyo running fine in dual, just a few bug in there like bluetooth and camera and incall volume not working, but data is work perfect just need to set up the right apn.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] leonardoaraujo:
how to change icons of the launcher and desktop in Froio?

I wanted to customize the icons ..
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] youngsien:
do not know how to, maybe you can find some help from android forum?it should be the same way
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Enrichman:
Woooo.. after

hours

finally i got it.

Now the questions: how can i download more apps? Without connecting me trough gsm internet i mean. Can i from sd card? Where i can find apps?

There will be upgrade for this (i really love that)? Like bt o camera?

Thanks a lot for this incredible work.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] leonardoaraujo:
my vision

That's it guys!, I have used the RLS10 two weeks, is stable, overclocked to 520MHz, perfect!, Really we should get together (users NIKI100), and maybe we paid for this build service, I would find fair. . it should be hard.

after 15 days, which works right:

calls, SMS, data connection, adjust brightness, LED indicator, calibration screen.

what does not work:

camera, bluetooth .. (I think these two are impossible)

headphones (please, mblaster, do work ...)

call volume

vibration

obs: funny, animated wallpapers on the RLS9 worked in RLS10 not working ....( really wanted to see running on my NIKI100 the live earth wallpaper)

I am very happy with the progress after the eclair, voice calls work, nor do I question much of the camera and bluetoth, but would pay to see running the headphones ....

Good luck!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] alderik:
Hi all,

thanks for the great job! with Froyo running on my Nike200, I don't even need a new phone! :D

I am using:

HTC Nike / HardSPL / Radio 1.71.09.01K / WM6.1 stock and this Froyo RLS 10. My ISP is 1und1 (vodafone).

I am having three problems:

1.) I can't establish an internet connection (neither with the apn: mail.partner.de nor with web.vodafone.de)

2.) I can't change the callers volume I must admit, that it has a good volume for most phone calls, but I thought, that this is fixed already by mblaster:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=7021840&postcount=3

and included into the files from this thread.

3.) also it looks like the network signal is weaker than under windows mobile and dropping the connection sometimes (not while talking but by showing no signal bars).

Someone could help?

Alderik
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] youngsien:
1. for internet connection, have you already set up apn on mobile&network setting?have you selected it by clicking on the button on the right after you create that?on mine it working, maybe sometimes not but i think that because my operator has gprs timeout so what i need is go to modem disconnect and connect again and it will work

2. that's not in call volume fix, that is fix for broken sound on ringtone ringing

3. yeah i notice that but nothing we can do, maybe you can enable only 2g network to get better coverage :)

2.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] alderik:
edit: I tried to enable 2g only but don't get any data connection nonetheless. I will try RLS12 later.

Dear youngsien,

thank you for your reply :)

I did 1.) the apn is web.vodafone.de and it is selected (green button active).

I played around with disconnecting and connecting the modem, but was not successfull.

using the internet explorer is not working and connecting to my google account neither.

2.) ah, ok! ;)

3.) will try it.

You can recommend RLS11? Actually, I prefer to have German on the phone. Let's see, when there will be a new release.

Actually, the original thread is offering new kernels and .nbh files. how do I install new .nbh files? What do they do?

Regards

Alderik
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] andrei.nica:
feedback

I though this might help everyone with data connection problem: update your SPL to the latest version. I was using 1.16 and had problems with GPRS, eversince I switched to 1.22 and since incubus' RLS 10 i've had data connection working.

now, one major issue that I'd like your opinion is battery life. we all know it's worse than on winmo but how bad can it be? i've had only GSM on, standby mode (in default.txt standby is set to 0) an in about 8 hours my battery went from full to dead. in RLS 9, i remember the battery lasting a lot longer.

however, my question is how do I know when it's a release issue or a kernel issue? we all know BT issues and camera are kernel related but battery life?

maybe mblaster or youngsien can shed some light on this.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] alderik:
I installed RLS12 and used the SPL1.16 and the HardSPL 1.22 but RLS10 to 12 don't work for me regarding the internet connection :( Neither for my vodafone card nor for my T-Mobile one (I checked the APN for both).

I need internet connection for synchronizing my contacts with Google.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] alderik:
edit: yes, I need WM 6.5! after installing the Soft SPL 1.16 and the hard SPL 1.22 I installed on my Windows Mobile 6.1 stock rom the Insomnia Rom

after that I installed the

on 2 ext2 partitions on my SD card. Setting up the connection to my google account worked as the network was working.

Unfortunately, after visiting the marketplace I found out that the network connection got instable and is in a loop of finding it and loosing it. I will observe it.

hi youngsien,

mayby I need Windows Mobile 6.5 to get a network connection running under Froyo?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] yelo5464:
As i do have some problems to receive calls, sometime it work sometimes not.

I did tried to change the kernel instead of using the kernel of the day from the latest files on sourceforge androidhtc

That doesnt work, the only way i did succeed to run froyo is the latest build RLS12, using the last kernel of the day nike100 without vibration.

I was wondering how can i make a git checkout of the latest kernel of the day version.

I would like to look at the kernel source and see how it run.

I really need this bloody incoming calls issue to be fixed, as only this bug doesnt make me use it all the time.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] pirondello:
I am using this guide to install apps on my touch dual and I can confirm it works perfectly.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] mblaster:
Sorry for the late answer, I ain't around her very often atm...

Nonetheless, this is what you are looking for: http://www.androidonhtc.com/wiki/Get_Involved#Building_kernel_For_Vogue.2C_Kaiser.2C_and_Polaris

I don't maintain a repository myself. This is the vogue branch, of the linux kernel, for more info on that check out dzo's kernel thread in the vogue forums...

You will have to apply my patches more or less manually by downloading the diff.txt from my kernel of the day download site (http://84.23.71.227/kerneloftheday/ -> Changes in source compared to stock kernel) and applying them with git.

mblaster
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] youngsien:
seems like your kerneloftheday don't update anymore?can you please compile a new kernel for us?please make niki100 with and without vibration,i don't have linux experience to make it. thanks
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] winewyy:
this is hard to unlock the device,when I lock the screen.If u have any ideas ,please, Email me> wyywine@gmail.com

thanks .
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] winewyy:
nobody answer me??????
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] pirondello:
I would try to answer if I would understand your problem/question
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] murphyllon:
Hi everyone i have a niki 100 20 keys and I have tried to install android hero tattoo etc etc...but is impossible, i format sd card..i tried rename system to system.sqsh and i tried all possible ways and nothing....everyone have any idea!!??

I have radio 1.65.28.25

ROM V6.10 update rataplan

thanks

Sorry for my poor english
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] tadeucruz:
Hi

What would be the menu button?

Thanks
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] TMinh:
Wow, I've just installed the latest Froyo of Incubus on my Niki100, using zImage with vibrate, and it works perfectly with data connection and sync. Now I'm waiting for a patch for camera to work.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] TMinh:
It's the camera button. And press it twice will bring you home :D
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] pirondello:
Can you confirme that you don't get any touchscreen freez?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] TMinh:
Yes. No touchscreen freeze.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] tadeucruz:
The menu button(Camera) dont work for me :(
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] nagi603:
Works quite well for me (Nike 200) for the first ~20h. Then the touchscreen stops working.

After it finishes loading, it is quite fast. Not as fast as e.g. a Wildfire in loading apps, but that can't be expected. Still, great work!

(using RLS16)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] martijnn2:
amazing

it works amanzingly fine:D on my niki100, rls16

indeed the camera is not working, when you press the camera icon the phone freezes.

anyone got an idea how to get loose of the camera icon?

greetings
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Luks24:
use launcher pro to hide the camera icon

can we install apps on sd card
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] pigdogs:
OK I'm a bit of noob with this phone. I have a UK HTC Touch Dual that has had the security unlocked. I have followed the instructions on page one, and downloaded the files. I can boot it all the way in to the android installer, but when I select install system, the install fails with various errors like unable to write to file, then it just goes back to the android installer and does not boot android. Does anyone have any ideas?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] t_raja:
Please read post 38 in this thread."Remember after running haret.exe press and hold the center d-pad. after some second it will tell you to press center d-pad, press it and hold again then you will see installation option. For normal running no needed to press center d-pad for booting to android. Hope you like it."

May help! I am yet to install. All the best!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] t_raja:
I have a HTC Touch Dual NIKE100. Hard spl 1.22.

I tried the procedure in post 1 of this thread.

Method 1: first I used RLS16 (the latest from Incubus's SuperFroyo thread) and zimage (non-virbation) version of mblaster. In the third attempt on running Haret, I could reach Installer. After saying yes to clear data, I selected Install and after some time I selected 'exit'. I got an error message during Android installation;[168.6.18809]init:unable to open persistent property directory /data/property/ errno:2

Method 2: I changed zimage to the version given in post 1 (after extracting). Here it did not even reach Installation stage.

Method 3: Instead of RLS16, I used the link 'androidhtc' at the bottom in post 1 - there are many files; based on the date and remark by Youngsien 'odex file of Dzo', I copied the extracted 'system' file from 'system-froyo-us-odex-2010-08-17-tgz'. But again could not even reach installation stage.

Method 4: Substituted in Method 3, only the zimage file of mblaster. The result same as Method 3.

Can some one tell me the correct procedure and files? I had read the entire thread of 80 posts atleast twice but can not make out the mistake in my methods.

I do not find any where in xda, gingerbread procedure for Nike100 (Touch Dual). PLEASE HELP!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] shibboleet:
Radio version?

First of all, thanks for the great job all of you guys have done bringing second life to the Nike.

I have some problems running froyo on my device:

- sometimes touchscreen just gets disabled after a couple of hours (I'm running vibration-free kernel). Everythings works just fine, but screen doesn't response.

- I have problems with mobile network/data connectivity, it just stops working after some time and it doesn't work at all with the latest kernel from here: http://84.23.71.227/kerneloftheday/

The second problem bothers me a lot more than the first. Also, my nike gets hot after some use and eventually hangs. I read somewhere on the XDA forum that it may be a problem of radio version.

I'm using 1.58.16.27 and it seems that there are many updated versions here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=369502

Which do you guys use/recommend for Android?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] t_raja:
Instead of helping you, I am asking you for help! I have Nike100 and for the last two months I am tying hard to have android (Froyo) on my HTC Touch Dual. I have not been even able to achieve your level of success. Can you please give the links of all the files you have used and a rough procedure that worked for you?

As for the radio is concerned I see many recommend 1.65.28.25. You may try it.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Javalu:
Hey all. I'm considering this phone as my first Android purchase because it's on a really good plan where I live. I've heard multiple, semi-contradictory reports of lag problems with this handset due to the TouchWiz 3.0 interface.

Quick questions:

How bad is it?

Does the fabled Launcherpro UI replacement app fix the lag?

Oh, and if it's not too much to ask, one further query:

Is there a way to backup pre-installed apps?

The telco I want to get this phone with has pre-installed a bunch of stuff that might be useful in tracking my usage etc. In the event of rooting and ROMing this thing, I may want to keep those apps and re-install them after flashing the ROM.

Thanks in advance
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mark99uk:
im in the same position as you.

the mention of slight lag keeps cropping up. This worries me. I will be coming from a HTC Desire. I am wanting speed improvements, not slow downs.

Can anyone advise?

Also - in preperation for my new galaxy, I installed Launcher Pro on my Desire to see what it is like. It is ok. A bit laggy tho (more so than stock). Then I tried the ADW Launcher (which doesnt get talked about as much coz presumebly it isnt as good). I found it very smooth and just as smooth as stock Sense. Therefore.. maybe you guys should be trying ADW launcher instead
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Toss3:
I've used both launcherpro and touchwiz and the only time I've seen any lag with either was when the phone ran out of RAM(or below 60mb).
[Galaxy S I9000 General] c_on:
lagging might be solved by installing custom rom

I don't have the phone, though i've been following Paul (Modaco)

forum/twitter, he also had lag issued until he installed custom ROM

and did some changes in it.

You can review his work in his forum

xdaforums.com/newreply.php?do=postreply&t=715038

good luck.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Javalu:
See, this is exactly what I mean by contradictory. It must be that some of them have it and some don't. WTF?

That's good, but that doesn't really answer any of my questions all that much. Thanks anyway.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Adriaaaaan:
This phone is ultra fast, end of. it'll be even faster when it gets updated to access the full 512 megs of ram
[Galaxy S I9000 General] bookwormat:
compared to the nexus one i had for the past two weeks, the galaxy s has serious memory problems and is significantly slower than the nexus.

As described above, the device is lightning fast until the free memory drops below a certain point (60mb mentioned aboce seems to be about right).

At this point is becomes _very_ laggy, and the only way to get it back to normal is by killing tasks with a task killer app.

The way Android's memory model works, it should never be necessary to end applications manually. And with the nexus this was indeed never necessary.

On the samsung firmware however, garbage collection does not seem to work as it should. Maybe it expectes that there are 512mb RAM accessable (currently the galaxy's kernel only recognises 256). Or maybe it is something else. Anyway, something is currently broken. I'm on the JF3 firmware.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mickeko:
I installed Spare Parts and set Activity/Process management to aggressive, and I've not seen any lag yet (Also JF3 firmware). While it's not an ideal solution, I feel it's better than running a task killer as it doesn't make my phone unstable just because I forgot to put something on the ignore list.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] bookwormat:
@mickeko thank you, I will try that.

Update: Setting Activity/Process management to aggressive in Spare parts doesn't help much. It is still very laggy.

I really wonder why mickeko does not have the problem - maybe I have a faulty device?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mickeko:
I had quite severe lag problems at first. I tried some task managers and they only caused more issues for me. Then I made a full factory reset, it's my first android phone so I wanted to get rid of any weird things I might have caused during my testing (I messed things up alot til I understood what it's about ;) ). After factory reset, I installed spare parts, set to aggressive, and things work fine. I still have some lag, but it's way less than before.

I don't want to install inofficial firmwares quite yet, so I hope Samsung hurries up with the official update which seems to have resolved the lag entirely. :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] clubtech:
The lag is not being caused by lack of RAM (the device does see 512MB or RAM by the way, not only 256MB as reported above).

Currently the way the device is setup, it is writing all DATA files to the internal storage and not to the NAND as it should. For some unknown reason the internal storage has slow access times which is causing the lag.

There is a hack on Modaco's website that allows you to have the device write DATA onto the NAND and that fixes all the slow down issue however it has a limitation of max 130MB usable space on the NAND.

Samsung can fix this in a firmware upgrade by partitioning the space better.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Toss3:
I never had any issues with apps opening slowly before and after doing the hack I didn't notice a huge increase in speed(it's still noticeable though). Maybe some of the devices have worse access times or something as they seemed very high for such a high-end device?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] vitalij:
You can watch my video of application starting speeds:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAE_zKAtMvg

its launcher pro, MinFreeMem on max preset, and apps data is moved to NAND memory.

Just check the speed :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mickeko:
I don't know much about the Android inner workings, but Android System Information states 326MB(?) RAM. Which implies that the OS sees less than 512MB RAM on my device.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] clubtech:
No. it means that the rest is not accessible to u and is reserved to the OS.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Rizlo:
Speechless.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mark99uk:
Yes its fast now, but that speed obtained is only the same speed you get with the desire without any hacks. This phone should be faster, and one shouldn't have to root and hack it to obtain a speed only comparable to a HTC desire . It's not fair coz I want this phone badly but this lag issue is really putting me.of
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Javalu:
But aren't there problems inherent with moving the apps data to NAND?

(I can't post the link because apparently the mods need to verify my account or something, but there's a thread in the dev forum titled "Fix for lag" that addresses this.)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Javalu:
Ah okay. Over at MoDaCo they're saying that it stuffs up when the NAND runs out of space (as the fix simply moves the folder for application settings to the NAND instead of the 'internal memory,' which is actually an SD card).
[Galaxy S I9000 General] vitalij:
Yes there is one hidden thing here: If you have lots of heavy programs like some games, some navigation progs, google earth, you must keep those heavy programs in the old location. I did exactly this - moved to NAND everything except Google Earth, some Gameloft games and navigation. So now I have really fast phone, all my programs, and there is still plenty of space on NAND memory.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] vitalij:
I agree that this is bad design/software from Samsung (again:)). However you should not expect that performance of Galaxy in starting apps would be a lot faster than desire, since hardware is pretty similar.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] rkantos:
No, no and once again no! GS has a much faster processor than Desire. But still, you can expect the same kind of performance, because of the support for only 256MBs of memory... Once that's fixed by a community or Samsung themselves, the phone will be the fastest android phone. :cool:
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mickeko:
My phone on stock firmware has 326MB available RAM for applications. How do you explain that?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Javalu:
Apparently the phone has access to 512MB of memory but it's restricted to ~326MB because the rest is being taken up by the system software.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mickeko:
It's a possible explanation, but I find it unlikely.

Android is Linux based, and ALL Linux distributions I know of present the full memory size available to the kernel in /proc/meminfo. Checking that on my phone I see "MemTotal: 333416 kB". Either the kernel is unable to see more than 333416 kB RAM, which I find unlikely, or some of that memory is used by hardware and is entirely unavailable to the OS (as regular working memory). Wouldn't be all too unbelievable that the missing ram is allocated for the gfx chip or something like that.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Javalu:
Perhaps I misinterpreted what I read. I was going by vague memory.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] bookwormat:
Is there any official statement that the galaxy s even has 512 mb ram?

I can find lots of articles that claim it does, but no official document from samsung.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] m3keni:
The samsung galaxy indeed has 512MB of RAM.

But you will not be able to fully utilize this since kernel version xx.xx.29 is only able to recognize 256 - 350MB of RMA.

Once the SGS gets the update for Froyo which will update it to kernel xx.xx.30++, we will then have a full access to that reserved 150 - 200++ MB of RMA.

.. launcher pro is quite very laggy (had a couple of force close) for me though it has a good customization features..

.. the TW3 and ADW launcher is better in my opinion, still experience lags but not as much as launcher pro.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] clubtech:
You are spot on.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dcdgoth:
First, make sure your update is upto the date.

You can try to reset your phone by turning it off and taking the battery out, and turn the power back on. If lag still persists, have your carrier to master reset your phone. If this doesn't fix your problem then, there's something wrong with your phone.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ewingr:
I'm confused. So we are utilizing 512MB, and so when we go to Froyo we won't see more memory available, because it is actually already in use?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
just make sure you have enough FREE RAM to run apps, then you wont get any lag

the same is true for Windows Mobile phones
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Arkymedes:
Wow, I'm very impressed. Even after games and such.. the guy just opened pretty much every single app he had there. amazing