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[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Adriaaaaan:
The galaxy s seems to have a non standard alignment (probably because it isnt standardised) If i listent to music through headphones that have a mic on it doesn't sound right because i believe its playing through the wrong channels (trying to play sound through the mic probably!).

I think you're screwed, use a bluetooth headset instead.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] farooknaji:
I'm having the same problem. I couldn't understand why it wouldn't put voice calls through my own earphones (obviously without microphone). So I bought a Griffin Smarttalk adapter hoping this would sort it and I still have no luck. Even though this adds the three contacts to the headphone jack, still no calls will come through my earphones. Very frustrating. Whether or not this is a non-standard alignment, it should be fixable with software as the phone is able to play media through standard earphones. Why can't something so simple just work. :mad:
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] furstrated:
ok guys, heres the thing

the samsung headphone jack layout is four pole t/r/r/s left right mic ground i think

it will not recognize an aftermarket headset with iphone jack config where the ground and mic is reversed or t/r/r/s left right ground mic

the samsung pin layout is similar to nokia's

i had a problem with my triplefi10vi too

so i got my old nokia 5310 headset adapter with mic and used it.

the layout is SGS<-nokia adaptor wiith mic<-triplefi10 standard cable without mic<-triplefi10

worked perfect

i can control the playback and answer call with the nokia phone adapter and it all gets routed to my triplefi10 iems
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] distortedloop:
Yikes, your solution sounds like a Rube Goldberg contraption. An adapter to an adapter to the headsets. :eek:

This really sucks. Would have been a deal breaker for me had I known about it before buying the Galaxy S without option to return unless defective.

I wish some of the 100's of glowing reviews on the internet about this phone had caught this. All my headsets work with iPhones, Nexus One, EVO 4G, iPods, my MacBook Pro, etc...the Samsung's the only one with issues. Ugh.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] distortedloop:
So I'm wondering if it wouldn't be easier for those of us who don't have the parts you already do to get something like this: http://www.amazon.com/Headphone-Ada..._1_2?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1278989309&sr=1-2

and then just cut into it and cross the appropriate wires to give the proper t/r/r/s wiring. I think I'll run over to Best Buy and see if I can find something similar and give it a try.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] distortedloop:
I successfully made an adapter by taking a short 4-pole extension cord for iPhones and then cross-wired the mic and ground wires. On the iphone it's t/r/r/s (L/R/G/M) and on the Samsung it's t/r/r/s (L/R/M/G) - on the adapter I cut the cord open, then soldered the G->M and M->G.

Works great. Music volume perfect, headset works for mic and headphones in phone calls, and the mic switch answers/hangs-up the phone as well as pause/play music player.

I'm happily using my Etymotics HF2s on the Samsung with full functionality as I type this.

This is the kind of stuff I wish the industry would standardize on. iPhones, Nexus One, EVO 4G all wired the same, but apparently Nokia and Samsung wired the same different way. Silliness.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] eaglesteve:
This does not sound good.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] alovell83:
While I agree with you, honestly, the way I read this is you mean that Samsung and Nokia have it wrong. Which, on the surface, I just flatly disagree with. Now, anyone with facts can set me right, if Apple's interface is better from a quality standpoint then so-beit.

BUT...and this assume's I read your comment right, sense you essentially mean that since the iPhone, N1 & Evo 4G, then the two biggest cell phone manufacturers in the world have it wrong...Please keep in mind Apple is the new comer and that HTC, while having a long history with OEM builds that got rebranded, doesn't really have a long, storied history.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] peterfz30:
NO, what he is saying is that he wishes that all manufacturers would adopt the same pin-out. This would benefit everyone as then we could use any headset that we preferred especially as the Samsung is an in-ear type and they don't make and ear-bud type for the SGS which I would prefer. The SGS supplied headset would have been a deal breaker for me too if it was advertised prior to purchase.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] distortedloop:
Correct, that was my only point as it was written. I don't care who is right or wrong, I just want my aftermarket parts on something this ubiquitous to be interchangeable.

Buying a cheap cable and rewiring it isn't a big deal for me, but for most consumers it's probably never going to happen. There must be some third party adapter that works for exactly this, but I didn't find any with some quick searches that I was sure would work.

Wow, I really don't want to get into a pissing contest debate over who has it right and who has it wrong. That's really the only thing you took away from my post?

My background, as indicated in the signature below is mostly Apple and HTC products, so of course from my point of view, that's the "correct" way. LOL.

Seriously, my only real point, as said above is that I wish this were industry standardized. There's probably some secret agenda out there to sell more headsets by not making them not easily swapped between other products. I can imagine most normal consumers whose Etymotics or Bose or whatever didn't work from one phone to another just buying a new pair that did. Lots more sales for the manufacturers that way.

Since we're Android users in this forum, if I were going to debate who has it right or wrong OFFICIALLY for Android, I'd point out that the HTC/Google Nexus One is the officially anointed chosen phone from Google, and the official "reference phone" to show manufacturers what Google thinks is the right way to do an Android device. Since the Nexus One has the t/r/r/s of L/R/G/M format, it is the official Google way to design an Android phone. ;)

In reality, Google probably didn't pay that much attention to that kind of thing, or if they did, they chose to go with the iPhone pattern as part of some strategy. Apple probably went opposite the industry norm for the reason of just being jack-asses with their i/o ports and because Steve didn't want you using anything but Apple headsets.

That said, and five minutes wasted arguing a point I don't really care about, I'll let you say you won the debate and I'll acknowledge that Apple/HTC/Google as the newcomers must be wrong with their design. :)

It still doesn't change the fact that I wish this were standardized across the industry, whatever the standard is, which was all I said originally. Note that my original post that you quoted said:

"but apparently Nokia and Samsung wired the same different way"

not "but apparently Nokia and Samsung wired the same wrong way."

Big difference in the meaning of those two statements.

Take care!
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] AllGamer:
that sounds like my old Treo 650 / 600

If you use Bluetooth, you wont have that problem
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] ickyboo:
Don't forget htc only recently started to use standard 35mm jacks, before it was 25mm and mini usb. God how that annoyed winmo users like me

Sent back in time from my Samsung Galaxy SSS
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] distortedloop:
The explains the plethora of 3.5 to 2.5 adapters on the Amazon market.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] AllGamer:
i really hated those 2.5mm plugs it was always annoying, i still have about 5 of those adapters at home that i don't use

from the time when i used my Treo in a daily basis
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] ontwerp:
Great man. Can you post a picture?i am looking for a non cord solution.

So with an angle. Would that be possible?

Ciao valentijn
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Marcelo Reis:
How about just an ordinary headset

How about using just an ordinary stereo headset like I do on all of my Nokias an iPhones?

Samsung should recognize it doesn't have a microphone and use the built in one, like all other phones in the world.

I can'd say it's a deal breaker but is pain in ass.

I can only hope it is software related and can be fixed in the future.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] nyothecat:
Hi all,

I've been having the same problem, with expensive headset incompatible with my galaxy s.

After hours (not to say days) of looking for a solution, finding many threads with the same question, it seems I might have found something.

Unfortunately, it is not a software solution, but a hardware one...

I found, on the internet, sites which sell 3.5mm jack to 3.5mm jack converters for iPhone.

I kept looking and I found that OrianGadgets sells converters for samsung (sorry I cannot provide link due to forum policy... - links blocked for new users, if a moderator could unblock me, it'd be nice...)

I believe this can work. The problem is I live in France, so I will have to keep looking for a seller here.

Can anyone in the US try this and tell us if it works?
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] distortedloop:
I made my own hardware solution for this by cross wiring a four pole extension cord to reverse mic and

Ground, but a professionally made adapter would be nice.

I would like to check this part out. You can share the link you found by just leaving out the http part of the url can't you?
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] nyothecat:
Here's what I have (you need to replace W with www, the url blocker is rather smart !):

For the iPhone:

- W.wirelessground.com/iphonehjack.html (I like this one)

- W.sourcinggate.com/iphone-headset-adapter-35mm-stereo-headset-adapter-for-iphone-white-p-7937.html

For samsung:

- W.oriongadgets.com/Samsung-Rant-M540-3.5mm-Stereo-Audio-Converter-3-rings-pid-3455.html

I'm sure we can find others, but most of the time, I end up with this kind of stuff:

- W.amazon.com/Samsung-3-5mm-Headset-Adapter-AAET503CBE/dp/B002MUUNEE
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] applebook:
Same problem exists for my Xperia X10 when I try my Shure SE530, SE310, and other headphones not supplied by Ericcson specifically for the X10. In the case of the Galaxy S, this is not a deal-breaker because the built-in mic and speaker are good enough, but the X10's horrendously quiet call volume may never be "fixed."
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] spoidar:
Looks like this little fella should do the job:

kvconnection.com/product-p/km-354r3m-r2f.htm

Have tried it yet, since I'm still waiting for my Galaxy S to be available on a carrier that doesn't suck here in Oz, but the pinouts are exactly what the doctor ordered.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] nyothecat:
That's an expensive one !

From what I understood, only two wires are switched (from this source for example: samsunggalaxysforums.com/showthread.php/320-get-headset-to-work-as-a..headset). So even an adapter for iPhone should work. I ordered one today, I'll keep you posted.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] spoidar:
Yes, only two wires need to be switched, but that adapter is the only one I've found that explicitly states the correct poles are flipped. Do you have a link to a cheaper one? I'd be happy to see it if you do - no one I've heard of has managed to find one that works, in fact the only success stories I've heard so far are from people who modded cables.

It's expensive, then again - it's only $20 and you can get it shipped to you without splicing and soldering (my spare time's worth more than $20 an hour ;) ).

PS - neither of the ones you linked to mention whether they're straight-through or not, but I have a suspicion they are.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] nyothecat:
You're right, it's never really sure that the device will do the job... I found others than the one I already posted, but it's never specifically said it will do the wire switching :/
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] graouu:
Same problem here in France with my new galaxy S. Very disapointed.

So, finally, i tried this litle thing who doesn't worked with my hd2 but works perfectly with my samsung galaxy S.

New user i can not make oustide url so complete => dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.8422

I can now hear the "bipbip" (but still no ringtone/the samsung's support in france told me this was normal to not hear ring on headset on samsung's phones :() from incoming call and people can hear me perfectly.

My solution...

Good luck all.

Question : Is it possible to get the ring on our headset with a new rom or from the secret menu ? Can someone make something ? Apparently it seems not very annoying for people but for people who got some HTC tools, it's weired to not hear the ring on headset. Thanks.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] distortedloop:
Yes, that part will definitely work, it does exactly what I did on my own. $18 is pricey, though.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] distortedloop:
However, a problem I've found with my own solution, and this one will likely have, is the straight out plug is very hard on the wiring. Etymotics same issue, but iPhone headsets never have been. I think the bent plug (like Bose or the newer Etymotics) relieves stress in your pocket.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] lgkahn:
Buy a Nokia headphones with aadapter on eBay they work with our phone
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] distortedloop:
Can you link an example of one you know to work?

The mic works too? One of the examples in the above posts appears to only be three pin instead of four...which means sound only, no mic or switch activity.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] ickyboo:
Buy nokia n97 headphone or converter. N900 might work too

Sent from my Apple Newton 2100
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] distortedloop:
Won't work for me. I'm specifically after an adapter that lets headsets designed for the iPhone work with the SGS. Most of the suggestions here do not.

I need a 3.5mm to 3.5mm female to male adapter that crosses the mic and ground inputs. Only one item I recall seeing here that is commercially available and actually fits that bill, but it's a bit of a rip-off price.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] distortedloop:
Readers of this thread might be interested to learn that the US AT&T Captivate version of the SGS is compatible with the iPhone and similarly wired headphones according to a couple of respondents to a thread I started on the Captivate forums.

Looks like the actual issue here is that the US version of the phone is wired differently than the i9000 international version (at least different than MY Singtel (Singapore) version of the phone).

I may actually just take the soldering iron to the internal jack if it's accessible and end this on my phone once and for all...
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] furstrated:
i made this:

took a wirecutter to my nokie ad57

took a soldering iron and some very thin lead and soldered the wires to a generic female 3.5mm 4pole making sure to terminate the ground to the second ring from tip and the mic to the sleeve making the female plug of the adaptor iphone compatible but retaining the compatible wiring of the male 3.5mm end.

Functions perfectly with my triplefi10vi

or you can order this http://www.kvconnection.com/product-p/km-354r3m-r2f.htm

a little expensive at 18$ plus shipping though
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] distortedloop:
Nice! That's pretty much what I did, though I did a wire splice in the middle thick and ugly, but it was just a test to make sure it worked. I need to redo it. Another issue I found already with mine is that the straight out design of the jack into the phone with the extender leads to loose/broken wires at the male end of the extender. I had to wiggle mine and tape it bak on itself to maintain function. This problem occurred with two pairs of Etymotics as well (they've changed design to an angled plug now).

I'm thinking of taking a look at the inside of the phone and just doing it on the phone's own jack if it's not too tight in there. Risky, but permanent and no dongle type extender needed that way.

I can't believe that $18 part is the only one anyone's able to find (myself included) for those who aren't skilled with the soldering iron.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] jefftgm:
Wondering does this work? 3.5mm Headset MIC Adapter for Samsung I9000 M2710C @

cgi.ebay.com.sg/3-5mm-Headset-MIC-Adapter-Samsung-I9000-M2710C-/390228747212?pt=PDA_Accessories
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] StolenDiagram:
Is anyone able to confirm that this mic issue affects UK Galaxy S phones?

I've recently placed an order for a set of Super fi 5 vi which I'll have to cancel if they don't work.

Thanks.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] omaga:
I tested Nokia BH-103 BT handfree and it worked well when calling, but the music dont come true the handfree it came from phone speaker..Very annoying, this handfree has worked for calls and music with every phone I used before but not galaxy.

have someone used a BT handfree where you can both listen to music and calling??
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] l00tz:
Confirmed.

I have a UK bought Galaxy S and after my normal non-mic headphones died I went for some Super fi 5 vi's. This issue was a real surprise.

Giving up decent headset compatibility which IMO is a core feature for a gimmick feature like SD tv out seems a real screw up.

The sound doesn't come through right unless you hold down the button on the earphones which you can't do of course. I taped it down so that I could at least listen to music, crazy thing to have to do for a phone that is meant to be multimedia savy (don't get me started about allshare video streaming to the phone, which is an even bigger fail).

I've just ordered the cable referenced earlier in this thread as a permenant fix. Bit expensive for what it is but from where I'm sitting now its my saviour!
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] rich_bown:
Clarification

Hi there.

I am in the UK and have the same problem with my car.:confused:

The car has a 3.5mm headphones socket hardwired to the stereo, and using a standard 3.5 male to male I can hear music through the car stereo, but on a call I have to use the handset speakerphone.

The $18 adaptor I'm happy to buy if it solves this issue, and I was just wondering if someone could confirm that it works for both playing music and listening to in-call audio (the mic on the phone is good enough in this scenario).

I'm no engineeer, but just wanted to make sure that swapping the wires round wouldn't affect one or other of these?:confused:

The only other solution I have is bluetooth, either using a headset for calls only, or a generic bluetooth to heaphones jack solution.

Thanks in advance
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] distortedloop:
I can't vouch for the $18 adaptor, since I have't tried it personally, but when I checked the link before, it appears that it is the solution.

I did re-wire my own adaptor/extender cable to cross the wires for mic/ground, and can attest that it works 100% as expected, with all features of a buttoned/mic/headset doing what you expect (mic works, sound sounds right, click to pause or answer works).

A guy familiar with Samsung internals confirmed for me that the part number for the headphones that ships with the i9000 and the US Vibrant/Captivate are different, and more importantly that the actual 3.5mm jack/receptacle assembly in the phones are different. No way to fix this other than cross-wiring the headphones or using an adaptor.

It would be nice if Samsung offered a reasonably priced adaptor for this. Under $5 US seems reasonable to me based on how cheap other adaptors of this nature (extenders, splitters) can be had for. $18 feels like a rip off.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] rich_bown:
Thanks for the reply, I only want the call audio to come through the car speakers, it doesn't seem like a lot?

Will order one I think and hopefully all will be well.

Thanks again
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] distortedloop:
Oh, no, I can't confirm that. Have never tried.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] stan28:
For those that bought this adapter:-

http://www.kvconnection.com/product-p/km-354r3m-r2f.htm

Please confirm that it works. I don't want to spend $18, only to find out it doesn't. Or, is there a ready made solution that works right off ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] PhoenixFx:
I can confirm that genuine nokia headset (Part number : HS-45 or AD-54) works with 3rd party head phones, and its own inline mic works for calls. Its a good alternative for the bundled Samsung headset if you want to use your own headphones for music and make calls without taking out your headphones.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] stan28:
This device has been recommended in other thread. Did anyone happen to try this:-

Philips Headphones to phone connector SHH1112

http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?ctn=SHH1112/00&scy=nl&slg=en
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] stan28:
Where did you get yours from ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] PhoenixFx:
It came bundled with my previous nokia phone. If you want to buy an original you can get it from your regional nokia web site or from any mobile phone shop selling original nokia accessories. Or you can buy a cheap 3rd party duplicate off ebay for a fraction of the cost.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] stan28:
Does your forward >> and Back << buttons work on the phone (Aside from the mic working) ? It would be a plus if it did.

Although, my main objective is to have both audio (for music) and calls routed onto the same 3.5 mm, i would be a happy camper.

I found some 3rd party (replicas) on ebay and will order it soon.. Finger crossed.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] PhoenixFx:
Unfortunately none of the media or call control buttons work. :(

Another alternative to using a 3.5mm audio cable is to use a A2DP (stereo) Bluetooth clip. I currently have a Motorola S605 (has basic player controls : Play/Pause/FF/REW and Call Controls: Call/Disconnect and then Vol+/- ). So you can control everything without touching your phone.

It has a standard 3.5mm headphone jack, which allows you to connect your own headphones, a built in mic and a stereo FM radio. Audio quality is pretty good and the built in mic is quite sensitive too. If you want to go the Bluetooth way then there are few other such Bluetooth clip based adapters with a 3.5mm jack, they cost around 50USD.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] leomak:
i disassemble a nokia AD-54 headset and found 5 cords inside, M+/M-/R/GND/L...is it possible to convert this to samsung one?
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] PhoenixFx:
What is there to convert? The mic and headphone already works (except the buttons).
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] leomak:
I'm trying to get the button works. Do you know how?
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] spoidar:
Just got my Galaxy S, can confirm that the cable works, wouldn't worry about durability, thing's pretty chunky (a little more than I might have liked). Will post pics at some stage, in the mean time my Triple-Fi 10s are now working great.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] distortedloop:
LOL - I notice kvn has lowered the price from $18.00 to $17.50! With that price drop, I might buy one after all. :rolleyes: @ kvn

It needs to be chunky to be durable. I'm on my second home-made adaptor, and the thinner cords I use can't take the stress at the point where the cord meets the jack where it plugs into the phone. I've gone through a couple of pairs of etymotics for the same reason (until they changed the plug design). My issue might be that I jam the phone and the cable into my gym shorts and jeans all the time, YMMV.

A friend of mine wants a Galaxy S (he's not sure if he wants Captivate, Vibrant, or i9k). I mentioned the headset issue for the i9k and he scolded me for being cheap and not just buying the kvn one. I think in the end, he's right. It pisses me off they charge so much for a two inch cable, but if it's a quality product that will last, it's probably not a bad solution for most.

Thanks for the report back on it; I'll probably grab one in the end.