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[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hexix:
Free memory does not benefit you. Android will automatically load apps in to memory so that they are available to switch to fast as possible.

You should not kill apps unless they are bisbehaving. Killing off apps forces Android to load them back into memory if its algorithm thinks you are likely to use it. The act of loading data into memory uses power and Android tries hard to avoid it.

I was obsessed with managing my memory and running apps when I bought my nexus one. Everyone at that time suggested task killers so I got one of those. I had crappy performance with random sluggishness. I figured I just needed to kill off more apps. Eventually I read an article from an Android dev explaining this stuff and I backed off and have had a much better experience since.

I wish Google was more vocal on this subject. Everyone thinking auto task killing is a necessity on Android really gives it a black eye.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jack_R1:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=712352

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=678205

Remove your task killer (or, if you insist, just clear the auto-kill list), erase all you think you know about memory management - because you don't know - and stop worrying.
[G1 General] Macrophage001:
Why is everyone disrespecting King? Why has he become such a major target?

Please don't flame the guy on this thread. I actually like his ROM's but I would love to see the other side of the spectrum.

If you do start flaming then I will have this thread closed. I just want information!

And maybe you guys don't care, in that case this all went to waste. But for the people who actually have sufficient reason to dislike his ROMs or him or both, please post why here because this is really curious..
[G1 General] Ace42:
I want you to take a look at the dev section....All of his threads are locked for some unknown reason...And people flame his because they are trolling..That is what people do when they have nothing better to do, they want to make themselves feel better.
[G1 General] JAguirre1231:
This about sums up my problem with him. This is by no means proof that this is what he does, but from past accusations you can make your own judgement:
[G1 General] Macrophage001:
Yeah I just saw that. that's the first time I ever saw that man..damn.
[G1 General] Macrophage001:
lol I don't get what your trying to say =P im kind of slow at times.:D
[G1 General] JAguirre1231:
"Gonna go work on some Slide now"

"Now Viewing CR_Slide Official Development Thread"

Not exact quotes, but they say the same thing.
[G1 General] Macrophage001:
yeah I got it now...well ok so I get how that looks...
[G1 General] Ace42:
You know there's a saying back on my home country, "You play with fire, then fire burn you", but ever since i move to new country of america, now its, "You play with fire, firemen save You!". This new place is not the same like bhak home, it is not as nice but the technology is everywhere.
[G1 General] Macrophage001:
Well I don't know how those sayings apply here...I don't think he's been "playing with fire" and even if he has, well then it seems like he has a second skin because it hasn't burned him yet. The dude, in my opinion, is tough enough to be able to take such harsh criticism and still make those ROMs for people. I mean even if the ROMs have bugs in them, which ones don't? And if all this stuff about him using other ROMs is true, then why didn't you guys say anything immediately? I mean you don't have to take it so far as to close every thread but I think a simple warning would have sufficed.

But that's only if he did/does that..

That's just my view on the subject.
[G1 General] Ace42:
You see back in my home country we do things based on perseverance not relevance, it is tricky here in this new country of America.There are many bad men here, unlike bhak home where we handle problem like this:

We say is there a problem here?

They say yes there problem

Then they fhite it out till one wins, but here in my new home country of america the government people are also bad men, they say economy is bhad, but i see they wase much money. /s

Also I agree with you, it doesn't make sense to lock all of his threads..it will push other ones away.
[G1 General] likebutta:
I don't see the problem. :confused:
[G1 General] Ace42:
Just like causin used to say, "when you go lookin four trouble, then trouble fine you". I sure do miss those olde times, it's not the same anymore . Dhere may bee know problem but don't worry, dhere's nothing to worry about. ;)

Just like olde friend used to tell me bhak in my country.
[G1 General] ctso:
Just about every, if not all, of the ROMs produced by kingklick are ripoffs from another ROM. The most he will do is add some new gapps, mess around with the build.prop, zip it up and call it his own and beg for donations.

It's been proven on numerous occasions by comparing md5sums of every file in his ROM against another's ROM (which was out first). Guess what? They match! His argument is that we are building the same source, of course they will match! Sounds logical to the day to day user, but the truth is that would never happen, unless by chance kingklick and the other developer were building on the exact same machine.

My $0.02
[G1 General] beatryder:
Correct, the MD5 sums would not match even if the code was compiled from the exact same source.

For fun, lets give this guy the benefit of the doubt: Suppose that hypothetically he's right and the reason that the MD5 sums match is that hes' compiled the same code. What's concerning here is the HUGE percentage of files that he's not changed.

We're back at square one, that he simply renames another ROM and calls it his own.
[G1 General] legend221:
Thats the worse part about it, charging for work thats not even his.

If you were the REAL developer I bet you would be mad.

Think about it, its like someone taking credit putting your work out there again and essentially stealing it.... all of it your blood, sweat, time and countless hours of changes until satisfied.

Im amazed more people are not pissed off about this.
[G1 General] Deathwish238:
Hmm...then who's Blur ROM did he steal? He's one of the only devs I knew that was working on it for the G1 and now the Nexus.

But regardless, his md5sum line doesn't make any sense and it's odd that he'ld use it on xda out of all places. Him looking at a Slide thread a minute later is funny, but not any concrete piece of evidence. However it's the md5sums being the same that doesn't make sense. Even if he got the same md5sum somehow, how is it a different ROM if the vast majority of files are unchanged. I guess the question then is how many files differ between ROMs typically?

Disappointing...
[G1 General] kusotare:
There isnt a typical answer for that question. The number of files whose md5sums differ is going to be entirely dependent on how many files have been changed. So for someone compiling their own rom completely from source, as kingklick said he did, every single file would be different.

The more common scenario is if you have two people making roms and adding in bits of their own flavor. In that case, they could be using many of the same files and changing only what they wish. But generally, people who do that state what they did and dont try to lie through their teeth about it by claiming that the rom is entirely their own work.

the main point of all the 'drama' surrounding this is that this isnt the first time this has happened with him. he has had previous occasions where it has been definitively proven that he stole other people's work, branded it as his own and then used it to garner donations for himself. ctso's work was one of the instances in which kingklick did so.

god only knows how many people he duped into donating money to him by allowing them to think that it was his hard work that turned out the rom. it's deceitful. legal circles call it fraud. unfortunately there is no law regarding whats going on here, so the worst that will happen to him is that his roms get pulled and he gets banned.
[G1 General] sitimber:
where do you thing the word #kang comes from

the main problem started a few months back eugene and cyanogen posted roms then king posted saying he had fixed problems.

eugene and cyanogen looked for some hidden text they put in there and they found it everytime in kings so called fixes all eugene and cyanogen wanted was some respect for fixing but king kept saying he had fixed it

so many times he was caught

also he said eugene faked his own house being robbed and phones and pc being stolen

so all people want is respect for thinks they have fixed
[G1 General] billquinn1:
It is the donation thing that riles people up. He was gone from this community for some time and then hacked up a fur ball of a froyo rom. His developing skills may be questionable but his marketing skills are unparalleled.
[G1 General] ftruck90:
yeah i agree it's definitely the donations and lack of dues being paid. claiming the work is his own is just low even when sometimes there's irrevocable proof of that not being the case ie. the #kang and md5 scenarios. this continual "no i didn't" when found out (what i like to call the dennis the menace complex) is the drama here. if he went the route of someone like chromersmith who gives full props to cyanogen (and anyone else's bits and pieces used) and makes it clear he doesn't take donations then all would be well..alas kingklick has made himself a very big target.
[G1 General] Macrophage001:
Hmm..I think I am going to make a poll to get more data on this subject to get a more specific view on this issue.

So basicly you guys are saying that kingklick is not making his own ROMs but, rather, copying them from other Devs and changing some minor portions of them and calling them his. But if that's true, then if you check the md5sums for the files in those ROMs they should match up with the files of the other ROMs he had copied, which has been proven to occur on several occasions. Kingklick has denied these accusations saying that "If you build it from source, then the md5sums would be the same". Some other Devs contradict this quote saying that if it was compiled from source then the md5sums would be different. And then there is also the Donation link. Now I can understand why it is that some one would find that irritating to see someone expecting a donation for someone else's work. Which is why it was removed.

So did I get the basic Jist of this thing?
[G1 General] rsfaze:
you got it.. he is a thief that likes to take credit for others hard work..
[G1 General] Macrophage001:
But, when you think about it, how can you steal in an open-source world?
[G1 General] ftruck90:
Yeah that's about it. It kinda goes against everything the android dev community stands for.
[G1 General] Macrophage001:
Exactly so this pretty much looks more like a case on lack of respect. Both for the Developers and the Community.
[G1 General] billquinn1:
Because it does not break the license does not make it right. We have lots of guys modding CM roms, adding a little bling and renaming it. They always give credit and almost never ask for money.

I have no problem with KK roms. He is within his rights under the Apache (?) license. It is the implication that he did it all himself. That statement may actually be in violation of the licence. I will take a look at the licence sometime. I seem to remember it being a little lengthy.
[G1 General] Macrophage001:
Well if it is violating some part in the Apache Licensing, then he should be held accountable for his actions. If it isn't however, we can't really hold him responsible over those things whether it feels wrong or not. Well we could but I don't think it would do much.
[G1 General] Macrophage001:
How about his [Kingklick] updates to his ROMs?

After the updates are the md5sums still the same?

Over time don't they change?
[G1 General] billquinn1:
I agree...mostly. I don't like how he does things but its really about the "letter of the law". I just wish he would do whats right. It's really his choice. If he removes the donation link, we could probably put this behind us.
[G1 General] mssmison:
This has been addressed in this (click here) post. There is no need for a second thread about this, and as such I'm closing this one.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jlechner:
I have tried probably a million things. I finally got my pc and my evo to pair, but they refuse to connect. Basically I wanna use bluetooth tether. So far the only thing I have been able to do with bluetooth is push a file to the phone. Seems like bluetooth isn't a very good feature on android. Anyone got any ideas?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] azichek:
Having the same problem. My mac can send files to the phone but when I try to get files from the phone to the mac it wont connect, just pair, and an error pops up that says"this device doesnt have the necessary services"
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drmacinyasha:
PROTIP: The bluetooth stacks in your computer suck, and probably the one in your phone sucks because you're using stock.

Just sayin' it how it is.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ronniewilb1:
If I wanted to be bashed I surley would not be here. Thanx
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] subcypher:
Welcome to XDA! :D

Seriously, though... Which wireless tether program are you using?
[Droid Incredible Accessories] Calibob2001:
Hopefully this catches the eyes of those who need to read it most...

Too many people are trying to take the easy road and post a new thread on a subject or idea, usually asking a question about something that has already been answered instead of doing a simple search!

I've been a member here for a couple years now and haven't needed to post very much because, if you take the time, the information is out there. 99.9% of the time, you aren't the first person to ask a question, have a problem, or hit a wall.

If you're having trouble doing something that was posted in a thread, POST YOUR QUESTION IN THAT THREAD!!

It seems as though there are a lot of newbies who are anxious to root their Inc, which is fine: If you pay attention, read the instructions and most of the thread before you begin, and follow them to a T . Every time I have a problem either rooting or installing a ROM or something else, I am the one who did something wrong.

Some of you are probably new to the Thread concept, which is also fine. It's very frustrating getting used to how they work, and learning the "right" way to do things- but trust me, it's worth it.

Posting a new thread is like standing on a chair in the middle of a crowded room and screaming out a question. If your in the wrong room (i.e. wrong section), people are going to be upset. If the question was already answered by another group (i.e. another forum), people are also going to be upset. If you aren't sure if you should start a new thread, you probably shouldn't.

Take the time and READ THE RULES! Here they are if you don't know where to find them:

So instead of starting a new thread like "How do I.." or "Where do I" or "Why can't I..." Do a search of the threads, Google it, or even hop on over to PPC Geeks, Trust me- you'll find the answers you're looking for.

BTW - Thanks to Mikey1022 for moderating
[Droid Incredible Accessories] jonnybueno:
+100000000000000000000000

I wish people had to read this before they could post new threads. This forum seems to be worse than most of the other android forums on xda... not sure why.

Everyone who disagrees with this should check out the nexus one forum to get an idea of how lax things are here.
[Droid Incredible Accessories] ihtfp69:
You better watch it. Some people may take offense to this. :rolleyes: people also have to be aware when they do make a new thread that it is in the correct section. Too many questions are being posted in Development instead of General. Let's keep the sections on topic so people can find what they came looking for.
[Droid Incredible Accessories] bluetooth_decay:
I agree, but I can see the other side as well.

The "Root process" thread is up to 108 pages. Sure, searching helps, but you are still poring over pages and pages of forums for hours. I kind of learned that this was the buy-in from my WinMo days, but that doesn't make it less frustrating.

One advantage to sticking to existing threads, however, is that people who are successful will probably post back to that thread, with any variations they used, whereas they are less likely to post to a new thread.
[Droid Incredible Accessories] barry1685:
How much time did you spend writing this? No ones going to pay attention.
[Droid Incredible Accessories] yzdirtrider13:
You know they won't. The ones who post these repeated topics are the ones who freak out when they're lost, post a topic, and hit refresh all day instead of looking for the answer. The only ones who actually read this are the ones already pissed off about it.
[Droid Incredible Accessories] JaydenR:
LOL, I didn't even read it. Just scrolled to through the comments:p
[Droid Incredible Accessories] compnird:
There are so many pages of topics because of the issue that is being described. There is a very handy function called "search" that, while not perfect, at least narrows results down for you. You can search within a Section, Topic or down to a single thread for key words.

Odds are, if you are on here you know how to navigate the web. If you can't perform a basic search in a topic or thread then please don't try to root your phone or follow any instructions to change, modify or "hack" anything.

As was brought out by [OP], if you WANT to do something that you think will be useful to you, read up on it. If you do run into an issue, search the key word of your issue. Entering "boot loop", "frozen", "Error message 123" will return something to help you find your answer. Odds are, you are not alone and, if you find you are alone, return to the thread where you were following instructions to do whatever it was you want to do and post a reply describing your issues. [OP] or others who are familiar with the process will help. Patience is a must.
[Droid Incredible Accessories] Calibob2001:
Far too long than I care to admit :rolleyes: - My first draft was rather angry and the overtone has calmed quite a bit...

And even if ONE newbie reads it and gleans even a whisper of insight as to how to operate the forums, then I have been 100% successful- even if 1% of those who read it take this to heart, at this point, that's still 2 fewer Threads the moderators have to close down...
[Droid Incredible Accessories] codybear:
Trust me, no matter what you try to do, you cannot stop people from reposting over and over.

Trust me, no matter what forum I'm at, it's the same thing over and over. It ruins it for us that actually read stuff and search for a while before asking, but such is life.

Infact if you'd search you'd see that there are multiple threads of this nature all over every forum...I know I've seen quite a few on XDA alone. :P
[Droid Incredible Accessories] Hand76:
So are you saying the op didn't take his own advice?

BTW I am glad someone changed the title of this thread as no one is going to respect your opinion when you start off that way.

On a side note I am new to this forum but from my experience thus far it has been very underwhelming. I made one thread and had issues with posters coming off as elitists. I don't know how modding gets done around here but until people can be civil this will always be a secondary place for me to post about Android news and the Droid Incredible.

I expected more from an XDA forum.
[Droid Incredible Accessories] Calibob2001:
What he's saying is that there are a lot of people who don't read the Forum rules and post new threads without doing a little research to figure things out for themselves. If you need help figuring things out, that's fine- but don't expect other people to do your leg work for you.

I looked up your thread, and honestly I found the answer to both of your questions with a very simple Google search- These are the threads that frustrate members most. There is already a thread that addresses everything from unlocking to removing apps and it's HERE, or better yet, you can look HERE for a list of safe apps to remove and how to remove them... This is where your questions should probably be, not in a new thread.

There are a lot of helpful, knowledgeable people here, you just gotta learn to follow the rules...
[Droid Incredible Accessories] Hand76:
So you suggest doing a google search instead of coming to these forums for an answer?

The first thread you linked to is a root thread that covers every topic under the sun. So according to you we should just have one thread on this entire forum and no one should post anything outside of it.

The second thread you linked to I posted in and got 1 answer but many other questions were unanswered.

Still you are coming off as a complete elitist and I don't know why this thread is stickied when on most other forums this would have been locked, especially with the condescending way you started things off.

That is just my two cents.
[Droid Incredible Accessories] k.electron:
tl;dr

firstly the rules are already out there: dont repost them asking people not to repost

secondly people do search, but you cant expect everyone to get the search terms right all the time and find what they want. also there are a lot of questions that may sound similar but are not. most of the folks on xda are good people who are trying to get answers and are not purposeful spamming douchebags, so stop the whining and dont read threads you dont want to.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tigerin:
hey guys, i just wonder if anyone gets only one bar or none at all when they're in their home. i it's a pain to text my friends when most of the times i'm unable to send it. anyone know how to fix this?

i love this phone, but it's really frustrating to use it like this. i don't think it's t-mobile's network because i've never had any problem with my sidekick or n97.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
Just avoid covering the bottom of the phone in low signal areas. Your hand greatly attenuates the nexus antenna and blocks the signal on 3g.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tigerin:
lol it's like an iphone 4 then lol. do you think me changing it to (cdma only) has something to do with it too? i idon't know what i chose, but i put in the special numbers and it took to the menu where it shows you if you want to disable edge and only allow 3g.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bedwa:
yes. You want wcdma preferred, that way it defaults to standard gsm in low coverage areas.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tigerin:
what is the numbers for it again?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ConceptVBS:
Cool read.

I cant seem to post link.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] vatk:
Did they think a lot when they decided to implement the toyish plastics on that -brilliant in other aspects- phone?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ewingr:
One thing to consider about that back everyone complains about. I've read that it is carbon fiber. It does look like it. If it is true, that is a very strong material and considered high end in automobile design to give strength and lighten the weight. And not cheap.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Maverick777:
I think you're refering to the Captivate version on AT&T which has a carbon fiber pattern on it's battery door. Whether or not it's really carbon fiber I'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure all other versions of the SGS are completely plastic.

If I'm wrong and the casing is made of carbon fiber, that'd be one more thing to add to the checklist for this excellent phone.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ConceptVBS:
^ Its a carbon fiber lookalike plastic. Its NOT carbon fiber.