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[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] nomad_delta:
When I open OI it goes directly to /sdcard, which contains a /sdcard/download, but it just says "This folder is empty."

If I browse to / I see a whole bunch of "unix" type folders like /etc and /bin, but no /download. There's /d and /data folders, but both of those say "This folder is empty" as well.

Does everyone else have a /download on the *device*, not on the SD card?

EDIT: Checked out Titanium Backup but it looks like it requires the pay version to back up applications, plus I'd be happier just getting the APKs for reinstall rather than trying to backup the whole thing with settings and all that as I can imagine that screwing things up between builds.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] arrrghhh:
Uhm, nothing Android goes on the *device*. It's all on the SD card. Granted, when the SD is mounted & Android is running, Android treats the SD as if it was the device, because that's all it really knows.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] nomad_delta:
I understand that, but I figured the "data.img" file that gets created on the SD card was the "fake" device memory. That's what OI file manager shows when you browse to the root (/) -- you see different folders there than what you see on the root of your SD card.

--nomad_delta
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] arrrghhh:
Basically, yes.

Just saw your edit on Titanium Backup... that's disappointing. I've never actually used it, not sure why Makk recommended it if it's a paid app...

There certainly is a way to get at the apk's directly, it's just not simple.

My /download directory (on the SD card from Android's POV) is empty. If you go to "home" and then hit /system/app, that's where all the pre-installed apk's are. I don't see any of the third party ones there however...

Hrm, not sure what you're talking about nomad. I just downloaded Titanium Backup, and it backed up all my apps... I haven't paid a penny. The "donation version" ($3.99+) it adds "high speed (HyperShell mode), much faster & zero-click app install, multiple backups per app, Market Doctor, app freeze/defrost, verification of backups, and helps out the dev!"

So it seems like it'll work for free.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] denis1984:
I actually use ASTRO to back up my apps. They get backed up in the /sdcard/backups/apps folder. Just run Astro -> Menu button -> Tools -> Application Manager / Backup. There's also a neat option to backup all the apps at once and then restore them if you've transitioned into the next release.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] thedicemaster:
little guide to backing up manually installed apps:

create a folder on the root of your sdcard(in my examples i'll use andbak as backup folder name)

now open terminal emulator either from market, or the one included in dev tools.

then type su and hit enter to enable root rights(required to even view the files)

then use the command

cp /data/app/*.apk /sdcard/andbak/

to copy all apk files.

little warning though: many apps don't like being installed through the androidapps folder, they give problems if you don't install them through the market.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] arrrghhh:
Yea, none of these methods seem to get ALL the apps. Titantium Backup still seems like the best/easiest option to me.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] nomad_delta:
woot; I'll give the free version a shot and see how it goes. Thanks for the tip.

--nomad_delta
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] NeoMatrixJR:
winfan: TP2 audio does NOT work. Most of the works/doesn't work status on this forum is for RAPH/TP/Diamond phones as it is in the TP/Fuze forum.

arrrghh: I'm just gonna come out and say it. Your "go to the TP2 section" answers aren't helping. Unless something changes THIS is the support forum for xdandroid. Unless you can convince the devs to check a forum for each device! Either that or see if XDA will post a "virtual device" forum for xdandroid. Sorry if us TP2 users "clutter" up your forum, but other than direct IRC chat this is THE place for xdandroid support from the devs!

</end soapbox rant><begin flames>
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] arrrghhh:
Fair enough, but we CANNOT support a device we do not have. If a dev has a device, I can GUARANTEE he/she is posting in the forum for their device. So why would a dev, who doesn't have a TP2, check the TP2 forums?

I understand why you guys post here, but that doesn't make it right. It's hard enough to support a few of the devices that are similar to the ones we actually have. Pretty much impossible to support the plethora of devices that this project is working on.

Heck, the TP2 even has it's own Android sub-section. Your argument is invalid.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] peterm20:
or just copy your data.img to a linux/ubuntu system and do 'mount -o loop data.img ./test' or what ever local directory you've made. that way you have a copy of your data.img unless its changed the downside to this is that market wont update those.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] howeasy:
No RC2 tonight?

Aw shucks!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] arrrghhh:
It is unfortunate, especially since I had no doing in this crushing of your hopes&dreams :p
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] cynepmeh:
Thank you for that Info. Successfully installed working froyo and enjoying it as we speak :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] denis1984:
Is it prudent to use swap on DIAM100? I suspect that with swap enabled at times my phone grinds to a halt when it comes to heavy disk usage, and I want to smash it on the floor angrily, stomping on it, jumping on it, all the while yelling why! why on earth are you so sluggish!? Say, I want to call someone and I press this phone button and uh... the screen goes black in anticipation and at first I'm like :p, take your time buddy but then I'm like :mad: FUUUUUU.... What is wrong with you?! Well, you get the point.

I know for a fact that compcache is an option but without backing swap enabled because I don't want the swap to even touch the only internal sdcard that this device has, unless we make it to the spot occupied by Windows, some time in the future. With pure compcache you would trade CPU cycles for more RAM which is faster than the internal storage but! I think you would only want to trade CPU cycles for RAM if the device is overclocked and therefore there's some additional cycles to barter.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] superpc:
Seems like the froyo port on HD2 already resolved short battery issue? Some were reporting very long and stable battery life.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] rajackar:
As for the battery It seems to me that the indicator in the froyo build is much more accurate then it was in the 2.1 build. It's still draining pretty fast but the overclock widget stretches this quite a bit when it is set to underclock the CPU when the screen is off.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] superpc:
I did try the overclock widget and the battery life was indeed stretched by 3x, from 4 hours to 12 hours but still not long enough for prolonged usage especially if I were to use wifi extensively. On HD2 OC widget is not needed and the battery life seems to work great(my brother owns a HD2 and it's been running froyo whole day with great battery life). It was the new zImage that did the magic he said.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Nakebod:
But keep in mind that even my HTC Desire in general doesn't last more then 1 day. I need to charge it every night.

And keep in mind that the battery usage depends on many factors, for example:

Number of accounts to sync and their interval

Twitter, Facebook, weather, RSS, other apps that need to sync

Signal strength/Switching between 2G/3G/HSDPA

Device not sleeping properly (Could be bad software)

Screen turned on

WIFI/BT/GPS consume much power
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] rajackar:
That's good to hear but our devices are very different so it's highly unlikely that what they did to fix it will work for us or even helps the devs forward. It would be great if id did of course but let's just wait and see and not get our hopes up too much.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] onesolo:
I use Appbrain, to reinstall all my apps.

Appbrain it's excellent. You can sync and install any app from Market over the internet to your phone. Then the next time you install a new fresh build of android, just re-sync Appbrain and it will install all your apps again...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Gumero:
I second that... I use appbrain and it works great... and dont end up with backups that were outdated weeks or months ago... what you have on your phone at the time of the resync is what you get downloaded... nothing more.. nothing less...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] JimboJoe:
...but AppBrain doesn't save your application data, does it?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Lavos77:
No only application, without personal data/settings.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] JimboJoe:
That's why it's still quite painful with AppBrain: you still have to reconfigure your applications one by one. I've upgraded from 2.1 to 2.2 using Titanium Backup, and that worked a treat!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] AndroHQUist:
I too used titanium for 2.1 to 2.2 migration. Works like a charm. I will probably donate to be able to schedule more and keep generations.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] arrrghhh:
Babijoee, I hate to bring this up again but there are some people whining about foursquare not working (if you're reading this, you know who you are :p)

In this post it looks like there is a solution... do you know why that hasn't made it into the builds? I'm guessing it just got missed...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] helicopter88:
http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=293610&d=1268554700

Here you are
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] babijoee:
I'll have a check to see if its there. Thanks for reminding

Edit:

Its there and we're using it. I'll have to reconfirm it for myself i guess

Also there are some problems with the phone.apk and we have to fix this before a new release. When this is done idk but we're working on it. Also i haven't seen any complaints about freezing but for me its quite constant. So i'm going to play around abit and find a stable kernel to use.

I'll be also releasing vanilla AOSP builds constructed by stinebd alongside my own custom builds in future releases
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] arrrghhh:
Excellent! Thanks for the response. We will all be more-or-less patiently awaiting the new release...

Probably on the less patiently side of things :D

FYI, I do seem to get force close windows when I try using 3rd party apps to access the GPS. I tried a handful, foursquare, ParkDroid, Gowalla and GPS Status. GPS Status actually did work, the others FC'd out. Foursquare wouldn't FC until I tried to update my location.

Google Maps/Navi work fine tho.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] heavymetalmage:
I have had a few problems with freezing. Phone froze this morning so I rebooted to WM and Haret would no longer launch. It would load up but never get to the two vibrates before command prompt comes up. Didn't update anything within the past few days so I'm not sure what that is about. Replacing rootfs and deleting data.img didn't help either. I'm going to wipe my sdcard and go from there.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] denis1984:
Read my latest train of thought on the swap and compcache usage, its all about freezing.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] babijoee:
haha yeah. saw that. I've actually removed the OC for now as it may be one of the reasons for the hang. Since going back to stock god damn its slow :p

Its probably most likely due to some changes in kernel and we need to look at it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] howeasy:
Sorry I post here everyday but I'm so interested in this port that it's truly unbelievable.

Even though arrrrgh likes to ruin my hopes and dreams..but thats a whole different story!

Odds are when I get to it ill end up throwing a Linux partition on my laptop and giving some cooking a try.

But just gotta thank the team for actually listening to people instead of just doing there own thing like nonstop.

ANYWAYS, just here to give some feedback. Just recently I have noticed crashes and a half-reboot sometimes when sending SMS texts.

Was able to produce it in the standard messaging app and handcent. Probably a known issue but just throwin it out there.

One last thing, for bab, I know you had RC2 planned for release last night but just wondering if there are tons of technical improvements involved and what kind of issues we can into that delayed the release?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] I2essurected:
Same thing for me last night.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] babijoee:
Yeah stinebd adds more functionality as it gets functional and optimizations here and there. Like i said theres some problems with the phone.apk which is a huge one. Something i've never encountered so i'll wait for a fix before releasing a new build.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] rajackar:
I got some strange hangs and half resets too. I thought that had something to do with using the overclock widget to underclock the phone when screen is off.

I think it started to go bad around the time I started using the launcherpro plus version and the people widget.

When I now boot android it half resets a short while after loading the home screen and it does this a couple of times and then it will work.

Sometimes after a while the screen doesn't come on anymore. This backlite still comes on when sliding and the capacative buttons also light up. A reset is the only way to solve it.

I'll test some more after removing the overclock widget and see if this fixes the problems.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Reefermattness:
Hey Neo you know Phh hangs out in my thread for TP2s too right? lol :p:D

Babijoee what phone.apk issues? I have not noticed anything with the newest repo sync. Something only happening on Raph?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] babijoee:
yep its quite weird. i'll try making one soon again. possibly something failed when compiling
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] x40sw0n:
phone.apk??

I dug this up in another forum. I am going to load it in a bit and try it out. see if it works under current builds.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=539752
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] arrrghhh:
Huh, looks interesting. Let us know how it works!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] babijoee:
Okay i have found a great fix and now ready for releasing a new build.

Expect new system with

*slide to answer/reject

*Word prediction / dictionary

And clean AOSP build

edit: How many people want AmazonMp3 in apps?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] arrrghhh:
Sweet! Thanks babijoee!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] vincentchan:
Great.

Just go to bed,wish tomorrow got the new build.

I donot need amazonmp3.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Blacknite:
Cool beans! When I loaded RC1 on my phone it seemed to run much slower than the 2.1 that I had runing on my Raph. Couldn't get any data to work either. Hopefully new release will run as good as 2.1 did

Amazonmp3 not needed
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] SergiusGee:
Thanks, babijoee, but I don't need amazonmp3. I need a russian language! :(
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] arrrghhh:
Get to coding! All the source is available.

I also do not need AmazonMP3... I'd say keep the builds very simple, anything cooked in seems to have issues - Also means less for us to remove :D I was glad when you removed ATK from the builds!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] herpez:
Amazon mp3 not needed.

When to expect the new build? 24 hours?

Thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] x40sw0n:
Phone.org

yep the phone.org download works good so far. makes mine a touch more responsive (long delay when i press phone normally; it was shortened a bit). going to try the mdpi / froyo version. no idea what mdpi and hdpi stands for and the forum wasnt exactly insightful.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] x40sw0n:
dialer/phone

wasn't able to install the other ones from the post (failed to install). probably have to go through the console, from what it looks like.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Nakebod:
Cool

Cool

Cool

Sucks

:+
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] babijoee:
i guess i'll remove it from my builds then :p
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] x40sw0n:
Amazon mp3 (shrug)

not important to me at the moment. maybe once we are at NAND level, but for now it's fluff
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] panteraz:
amazonmp3 not needed also.

What needed is a cleen system tha works perfect!!

Thanks for the great job!!!!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] devision:
yep! it would be great to get Russian language! maybe it's possible to grab it form cyanogen froyo port! thanks!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] bobbenedetti:
Still no ring

I have tried every way possible and still have no ring tone on a touch diamond

Latest try:

Started with XDANDROID.26.6.10.AOSP

Added

rootfs-20100723-1b819a7

XDANDROID.2.2AOSP.18.7.10.RC1.system.ext2

zImage dated 7/7/2010 4:03PM from XDANDROID.2.2.AOSP.10.7.10.BETA.V2

The only shoice in the sounds menu is Silent..it is checked and there is no way to uncheck it.

I did try upgrading a working 26.6.10 to RC1 and the Silent was unchecked and it would ring once for an incoming call and use the same ringtone for incoming mail.

Any thoughts?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Vortigern6:
Search the internet for "HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool".

Mount your diamond in mass storage mode.

Backup the **** on your internal storage.

Format the internal storage as FAT32 using the HP disk tool.

Copy the backed up files back on to it.

Your diamond will now see the internal storage.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Fluffster:
Cardio Trainer

Seems that when I launch Cardio trainer it loads but when you go into start workout it reports error and dumps to desktop.. Anyone else having this problem?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] howeasy:
removed...

Link to the newest build for people who wanna get in on it early before the first page gets updated.

You're welcome.

Edit:

Its not done uploading yet

Edit2: OOPS! Sorry Bib :D

Forgive me?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] babijoee:
Sure nps :)

Links are now ready. Updating 3rd posts now
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] heavymetalmage:
What are the major differences between your system and stinebd's?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] robh1234:
I don't seem to have ringtones or notifications anymore. Music works fine so the old SD card issues shouldn't be it. I did fix all that with the HP tool.

Running latest everything on DIAM100. (re-used data.img though)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] cynepmeh:
The answer you are looking for is within the previous 10 posts from yours
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] robh1234:
Maybe you could be more specific. I've followed this thread since day 1 and as I said I've done the HP tool fix already on the last release to fix that.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] cynepmeh:
Well it seems to work for everybody - even me so I don't know what else to advise you. Maybe try formatting it again. I don't know if it needs to be quick or normally formatted
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] babijoee:
Nothing great. I've removed some unused apps, added some and added boot-animation. Functionality is the same for both builds so its really whether if you want a vanilla build or a build thats ready to go :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] msoccer2:
I can see the ringtones on my DIAM500 and I also re-used data.img
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] deepsix_69:
confused

I am a little confused, I download the bundle then download the updated system. Do I rename the systems file to just system.ext2 and replace the one in the bundle?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] howeasy:
That's exactly what you do. Just rename the file to system.ext2 and replace the old one.

While you're at it make sure to update your rootfs and modules along with it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] SiL3nTKiLL:
whats the stinebd version vs the regular xdandroid version?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] heavymetalmage:
Posted a few posts up.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] SiL3nTKiLL:
ahhh gothcha sorry for not catching that!

how is the battery life on this? still not good? u think it will last an entire day if i only txt maybe 30 or so times MAX per day, maybe use the net a few times (not long), and talk maybe an hour total a day?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] heavymetalmage:
Some of that can depend on whether you are on GSM or CDMA. I don't use my phone much at all and I can get 8 hours (CDMA.) GSM will supposedly last longer.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] SiL3nTKiLL:
yeah im on GSM, hmm 8hrs isnt enough! lol, i might need to get a native android phone, i cant stand WM...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] heavymetalmage:
A lot of people I know with native android phones get maybe a day's worth out of their phones with moderate use. Also, they don't have quite the snappiness that this system does :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] deneme13:
Hope you are right my friend.

I like my raphael but with Android on it.

WM drives me crazy. :mad:
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] herpez:
Hi. With this new system the screen looks more responsive. Until now its the thing i most noticed.

Thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Deltatristar500:
Where do I get the change logs for the latest release of

XDANDROID.2.2.AOSP.25.7.10.RC2.system.ext2

Thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] athua:
Unable to access data using Exetel APN

I just loaded the RC2 build and all looks good.

The main issue I am having is that I cannot seem to get a data connection using the Exetel APN. I have been trying this with the various builds and to date, it hasn't worked for me.

Has anyone managed to get the data connection working with Exetel here in Australia?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] msoccer2:
Ok this really weird thing just happened to me. I was updating an app when my phone restarted to the android boot screen and when android loaded it said I had no service, so i turned on wifi to re-update the app and when I went into the market and on the main page I saw paid apps. In the apps tab it still only said top free, but when I searched I could see paid apps. I reset my phone and when I went back into android it had service and I couldn't see the paid apps. I thought this was weird.

P.S. why can't we see paid apps anyway?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] chrialex:
I think it had something to do with these not being "official" Android devices, and it would be an issue with licensing/etc...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] hamagc:
look for an application called sendlog. makes it very easy to email a logcat.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] NeoMatrixJR:
2.2 doesn't come all the way up. I have no way of installing/launching an app.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] aidandj:
Data Issues

For anyone having issues making it through the setup of connecting you need to set up and APN (Access Point Name). This can be done by pressing the set up wireless button on one of the first screens of the setup. Then click on access point names, then menu, then new. Put in the following settings. Name:Internet, APN:Internet, Username:your wireless username, for verizon it is Yournumber@vzw3g.com, then the password. For verizon it is vzw.

If someone knows the settings for mms that would be great i cant get it to work