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[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] CommanderROR:
Same here, it worked via the Terminal though.

Only sad that this won't help me get the full voice-control thingy working on my German Raphael. Voice control combined with some type of star-trek skin...that would be cool.

I know it's childish, but sayig things like "Computer, send message to XXX" or "Computer, open captains log, Stardate XXX ..."

;)

Pity I'm not a programmer...^^
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] zai_hkman:
Does anyone experience the incall volume problem. It is really annoying that no matter how much I have lowered the incall volume, there is no changeat all. I have googled about the problem and i found i'm not the only one. I'm using the newest package and set htc_hw.call_vol=0. Someone suggest changing the older kernal may help but aonyone know which one i should choose. Hope someone can help.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] MrCeddy:
I also experience this on my Fuze - Raph110.

Suggestions?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] hamagc:
http://zimages.googlecode.com/files/htc-msm-linux-20100720_171629-package.tar.bz2

i believe this kernal is prior to the volume change. replace your current zimage and modules with the ones in this pkg and the volume will be low again.

what is too loud? maybe i'm just def lol.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] zai_hkman:
U are my hero !!! finally resolve the problem. I think u are not deaf but i am too sensitive to noise:p Anyway, for those who want to have a softer incall volume, follow the instruction quoted. Again, many thx given to hamagc. My xdanadroid 2.2 become quite perfect right now:D:D
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] arrrghhh:
Problem with that solution tho is that you won't be able to get any updates to the kernel now...

Not that I don't appreciate solutions hamagc, it's just this is a band-aid. Have you tried adjusting the other volume settings in the startup? I thought there was at least 2 that pertained to the in-call volume.

Yea, there's also a handsfree volume setting. I haven't really played with either - I don't usually do phone calls in Android, the phone kept rebooting in the middle of calls and I can't have that haha.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] hamagc:
there is one that is for incall volume through headset speaker, the other is for handsfree.

this is just a bandaid for the time being hopefully we will get the volume controls working again with the new audio changes which will fix everything on this end.

but for the most part, the only changes since that kernal are for call volume.

your rebooting in the middle of a call? i am using android 100% at this point (unless i need to get an mms or take a picture) and i have had 0 issues with calls. next time it happens try to get a log of it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] tsar13:
hi,

Can I use HTC Sense in froyo (XDANDROID 2.2)?

if so, which version of HTC Sense and how to add it ?

i use HTC Diamond 2 (Topaz) :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] heavymetalmage:
Sense has to be ported and added into the system. Currently I haven't seen any Android system builds that have Sense built in.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] enTRAPAG:
You still have time to RUN
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] djdafreund:
Yeah, sense exist's in an Android 2.1 build i have and used for a couple days only. Noticably slower over all then normal 2.1/2.2 builds. Not worth using it. Granted we DO love it on our energy rom's (or who'ever builds), but not QUITE the same thing on Android. Close but no cigar. LOL.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] vincentchan:
The newest Initramfs and Rootfs not works.Cannot boot with them
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] babijoee:
really? you should be able to...what exactly happens?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] trondjl:
As others, I have tried several settings. This, at least makes the phone usable, as a phone :-)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] vincentchan:
I said with the 8.13 released ones.Maybe it says something about partition problem.

In my sdcard,there are 3 partitions.1 is fat.1 is ext2.And the other one is linux swap.I use ext2 and linux swap to test another android port.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] babijoee:
hahaha its not even ready yet. The 8.13 is for normal ext2 builds.

As in all still in one fat partition
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] mrvanx:
I can confirm they work fine (as you said in the all-in-one partiton build).

Should be sweet to see how the ext2 partition based build works out ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] babijoee:
Its alot more stable and there is noticeable performance increase.

We're doing some experimentation and some testing so sit tight :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] perern:
ETA for ext2 partition?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] heavymetalmage:
I was just reading the updates on facebook. Sounds extremely promising!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] stinebd:
None yet. We'll release when ready.

However, for users well-versed in the Linux command line and can read bash, all the needed code changes have been pushed to the initrd and rootfs. If you can figure out how to use it, have fun.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] bri3d:
I'm seeing random reboots and total lockups on calls as well, but I'm on CDMA (Sprint stock radio) - maybe it's a CDMA thing or radio-specific?

I've been trying to obtain logs but there never seems to be a last_kmsg after the reboots, and the lockups are pretty hard to obtain logs for since it would appear the kernel is locking (nothing responds, even ADB).

It's really the only frustrating issue left for me besides call volume.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Catalyst Shift:
My phone keeps ringing, even after it's answered. It started after I formatted the memory card to fat32. Anyone have any tips for this?

I've also noticed some loss of data connection at times. If I try using data in an area where there is no signal, it seems to break the connection so I can't use data even when I get signal back. So far I've had to reboot when this happens, turning off and back on data,airplane mode, wifi, etc made no difference. It seems to be pretty consistent that it does this, I notice it each time the train goes underground. If I don't use data during that time it will be fine.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] djdafreund:
Some one mentioned here also having a CDMA Touch Pro, which i confirmed works fine, is about pushing and holding the End key, choosing shutdown DOES in fact properly shutdown and reset the phone without any negative impacts. Sure, pushing the reset (or quick pull of battery) is QUICKER, but this method is clearly SAFER for the android OS, in term's of possibly OS corruption.

I grabbed the new zImage released today, as well as the also released rootfs.img released today, but haven't had time to mess with it. So basically, 2 Aug13 date update's, and 1 aug.3 update. I just can't WAIT til they work out Camera support and i won't be using WM anymore (until i buy the sprint galaxy s version phone with a non-sprint employee account) as it already runs quicker for me then WM6.5 S2.5 does (aug.12 NRGRom 23??? based.).

I know the battery isn't reporting properly within like 40 minutes or so it's showing 10-12%, and other then the warning's, i can honestly continue using the phone just fine for a good 10 hours or so before it cuts off. NOT HEAVY USE of course, just standby and texting here and there, but STILL. BIG difference of being off. Newer version files of Android 2.2 ARE noticably better with showing battery level, but no where near ready for currect prime time. I remember reading a user posting an android app that MUCH MORE realistically report's much better then default battery level, but still not close to WM does (obviously, but MUCH better then what we got is still a lot better from the default standard gives us.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] pdawg17:
Where did you get the zImage? I usually check the glemsom webpage but it still shows the Aug 2 version...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Deltatristar500:
Can someone explain what Zimage, roofs...ect are?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] reverendkjr:
In the simplest of terms:

zImage is the Linux system that boots everything else up. It tells your phone how to communicate to the hardware.

Rootfs is the Android OS. This isn't 100% accurate, but its the easiest way to explain this.

System.ext2 is the "flavor" of the OS. These are the personalized settings that include the apps, the special settings, add-ons, colors.

System+rootfs=Android, which is started up by haret+zimage.

Does this make sense?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] opetran:
support for greek language

Hello

I 'm just another guy who likes android.

I have installed XDANDROID.2.2.AOSP.29.7.10.RC2.1 yesterday but it seems there is no greek language support.

I don't realy mind but i can't search in contacts (987) (i use dialler one)

is there anyway for me to add it or i have to wait for another release??

thanx in advance
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] SergiusGee:
Just wait for the next release. I've already seen other releses with all languages for 2.2 on our Raph. I think the devs will add the build with all the languages
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] ridingshark:
Hello,

any ideas, is there a solution coming, or does my android journey ends here?

Kind regards

R
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] bighead74:
I'm having the same problem. I use RAPH100 just for data connection so this represents a big problem for me...I hope it can be fixed.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] I2essurected:
I had this problem if i added any notifications to LED Effects...once i removed this, it stopped happening. Check your LED Effects settings, hope this helps.

I2es
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] upm15:
I just installed and everything still ok as of now except the battery drains. Hopefully the battery issue can resolve so that it can become my everyday used OS.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] vitusdoom:
yeah. hoping it will be fixed sooner or later. :-< *sigh*
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] PMPC:
Hi,

This error appeared when I was trying to make the first boot.

"Failed to find rootfs on SD Card, you need to unzip a rootfs zip file to the root of your sd card."

But I copied everything that was in the zip Bundle for the new partition of sd card.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] arrrghhh:
Make sure there's a 'rootfs.img' file - named exactly that - where you run haret.exe from.

If not, go to the first post on this thread and find the rootfs autobuild service link. Download the newest rootfs, rename it and put it in with haret.exe.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Deltatristar500:
Yes, thanks for the clarification
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Jemmauk:
thoughts

I have a few observations having installed Froyo on my Diamond.

Has anyone else noticed that the phone seems to be using the "back" & "end" button LED's as data/processor access lamps - a useful indicator - did someone do that on purpose.

The phone is fast enough to be useable although there is still the problem with the WiFi trying to cook the poor thing and destroying battery life - is there a app that allows you to set the phone automatically to use WiFi and switch it on/off accordingly when data is required?

If you are having problems with gmail/market (no access, white screen and then back to home screen) or other problems - a good fix is to delete the data.img file. This holds all your data information including the gmail settings which market relies on - the phone will make a new one on first boot - although you will have to reconfigure the thing unfortunately (worth keeping a backup of this file!)

Im actually quite impressed although I do have one problem - the SD card/internal memory will not show up in settings - although the astro file manager can see it no problem - winmo directories and all.

i've noticed that the phone seems to go look at the startup config directory on startup - so if you want to edit the startup.txt file (proceed with care) its advisable to edit both of the relevant files - ie that in root and that in STARTUP CONFIG.

All in all I am pretty impressed - its just a shame no-one has done a 1.6 build for the Nokia E70 - an old but still impressive phone - I wish nokia had kept it updated :(
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] djdafreund:
Thanks for that great explanation. Wouldn't mind seeing that added to the first page. Kind of wondered about which file was used for what. THANKS!! :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Catalyst Shift:
Format the memory card to fat32 using the HP utility to fix this. It's in the first or second post.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Jemmauk:
All very well, but as I understand it there are files and directories that android needs that are on the SD but not visible - I have been copying my android bits across to a internal memory that was originally part of a winmo/android rom - so I want to be sure this will work and *not* destroy the set up I have at the moment.

I dont have access to a linux machine to do all that from scratch and I dont really want to wipe out both my winmo & android installations to get it by having to re-rom the phone...

Can I be sure that copying what I have on the internal memory to the PC - formatting and copying back will mean I have a working Android + memory afterwards?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Catalyst Shift:
All of your files are in the data.img. You can copy everything off the card, format it, put everything back on and it will not see anything different. If you're saying that you have a custom rom that affects even your winmo side, I don't know if that will make any difference. But in general, it's fine.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] killerbie:
New rootfs @Facebook Xdandroid page :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Dreamtheater2003:
Internal memory problem

I've used xdandroid several times and am having problems loading it on my diam100. It looks like it's done damage to my internal memory. at first everything works ok but once i've reboot my device it won't load anymore and I notice that on my winmo files on my sd cards gets corrupted. Thats ok because I do back-up. I formatted the internal memory using the panasonic or the hp formater and it would work again, somtimes I hard reset and format the internat storage all together. Sometimes xdandroid would work and sometimes not. after some tries on hardreset and clear internat storage it seems that it would not complete and it's just stuck on clearing the storage. Tried to do it several times but it wont complete. What I did is to use the sd formater that I mentioned, that work but when I tried to use the hard reset+format internal memory it would not work. It seems that my memory card is now damage. I can still use it but what ever file I put in it has errors. Pictures has some weird colors like dead pixel, music has some scraches same for the video. I can't use xdandroid now. Is there a way to fix this? has anyone experience this kind of problem?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] lugiber:
So whats the benefits with using an ext2 partition besides that android runs faster?

Does it mean that the data.img isn't required anymore?

And does the android kernel have support for ext4? It made quite a speed difference for my linux boxes so perhaps it could make our devices running even faster too.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] reverendkjr:
Using the ext2 partition is actually the same as we are used to with our fat32 setup, it just puts the files into different spots.

data.img is stilll needed in an ext2 setup, it just ends up being put into a folder on a partition, not made into an image file that represents the folder. Kind of like a CD iso, the file structure is there, its just contained in one easy to delete file. :) It's my opinion that everytime you change the rootfs that you delete and remake the data.img. But that's just my opinion.

There is no support for ext3 or ext4, and if you try to use it, Haret mounts them as an ext2, so you don't get any speed/performance advantage. For simplicity sake, I would recommend just using ext2 for now.

In my testing, the ext2 method of Android gives me better battery life, and overall better responsiveness. The downside to it, is that unless you are using Linux, you are going to have a horrible mess on your hands. Windows is just not friendly enough to be the right environment for handling this stuff. I am convinced that until you are ready to play with Linux, that you'll just have to deal with whatever the devs can give us.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Jemmauk:
Just a thought - but has anyone considered taking a ROM image from an HTC Wildfire & putting it onto a diamond... after all the specs seem pretty near identical...

Any reason why that wouldn't work?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] stinebd:
Tons of reasons. Not the least of which is that the specs aren't actually even close to identical.

Performance and simplicity (for the system itself, not for us) are the primary benefits.

However, performance has been an effect of a sort of "placebo". I've found that we were mounting data.img (loopback, not partitioned) with an option that causes it to write all filesystem changes to disk immediately. This killed I/O on the system. With the partitioned layout, we weren't mounting with that option.

So it was truly faster, but we can achieve the same increase in performance without using partitions. I've modified rootfs to do that, so it should be faster now even for users without a partitioned SD card.

In light of that revelation, I may choose not to further develop the partitioned layout. It's just needlessly complicated for no real end-user benefit.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] lugiber:
Thanks for your replys!

Hehe, oh crap! And i just repartitioned my sdcard so that it would be quicker to install the next version. :-)

But you could still put the system.ext2 and data.img on an ext2 partition so that you can access the other fat32 partition on the sdcard without having to reboot to winmo? Right?

And great news about the new rootfs! It always feels great when you guys manage to squeeze some extra performance out of our devices!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] stinebd:
I might not understand this question correctly. As things are now, you can use the loopback files on a FAT32 SD card, while still having full access to all the real data on the SD card itself (including any music, pictures and official Apps2SD installations, etc.) from within Android.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] zane1374:
Don't bet on it. This issue may never be resolved. Just have fun with the ability to use it as we can now. Newer and newer versions with no consistent battery on any windows mobile device. At least we get to have fun with it when time permits:D
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] deepsix_69:
I stumbled across some weird marketplace behavior and am curious if everyone already knew about it, or did I just get lucky.

As I'm sure everyone noticed, the market only shows free apps, which kind of sucks because there some good paid apps out there.

I was trying to save some battery and had the phone in airplane mode, then turned on wifi to use data. I noticed that the market now shows all the paid apps as well, and I was able to purchase some. If I turn airplane mode back off, the paid apps go away in the market but the paid downloads still show up. I've been able to duplicate it numerous times after reboots.

It makes me curious if that would work on all android phones that don't have access to paid apps, but it seems too simple so I am a little leary of tooting the horn too loud.

Anyways give it a try and if it does work and it is new, don't forget where you heard it from==deepsix :) (everyone wants there 15 minutes)

Raphael 800

Xdandroid
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] I2essurected:
I can 'see' paid apps all the time, no matter what connection type.

I2es
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] fylim:
Do you mean it is now possible to mount SDCard and connect to it via USB ? If so how ?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] joncullen:
Hmmm, I've always been able to see the Paid apps, but have noticed that some free apps can't be seen, for me this only first occurred when I moved up from RC1.

Some free apps that I can see on AppBrain or Cyrket are not found from the market on my phone - sadly this includes my own apps in the market place!

Haven't exactly been worrying about it, but since you brought it up...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] JimboJoe:
For linux fans, here is a good explanation of the relatime mount option introduced by stinebd:

http://blogs.koolwal.net/2009/01/30...sb-part-4-noatime-and-relatime-mount-options/
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] chrialex:
Anyone by any chance have Insulin Dose Calculator in their market? Can see it in the desktop market page, but not the one on my phone. It might be called Infusion Calculator instead. I have been trying to find it for the new wife (married for 1 week now!!!), but so far no luck.

http://www.android.com/market/#app=com.cityjams.calculators.insulin
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] CommanderROR:
This might seem like asking for ice cream in the middle of a general food and water shortage...but I'll ask anyway... ;)

Can we get live wallpapers to work on the Xandroid Raphael? It's just fancy colours and would drain the battery all the faster, but I'd like to play with them anyway...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Kaljo:
It's in my market and called insulin calculator, that's the paid version $1.99:)

there's no Insulin Dose Calculator

maybe this might be an alternative: Diabete Calc
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] heavymetalmage:
Someone posted a live wallpapers .apk somewhere in the thread (try a search.) Apparently it works, drains the battery a lot, and only works with some wallpapers; a lot of them just crash.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] mac19870508:
2.2 have chinese or soon there will be ???
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] denis1984:
Obviously there is. http://www.androlib.com/r.aspx?r=insulin
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] arrrghhh:
Whenever you help with the code? If you want XDAndroid to support something, jump into the code. If there aren't any devs that speak/use Chinese handsets, how can you expect support for it?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] msoccer2:
This also happened to me on my diam500, i lost my signal and then i turned on wifi and went into the market there were all the paid apps. I posted it on here a while ago but I didn't get many responses. I would like to know why it works for some and not others?

What is your service provider?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] deepsix_69:
Well I guess my find wasn't so earthshattering, weird though as I don't see any paid apps till I follow the steps. I'm on a small regional carrier that may be the reason, but there real android phones work fine.

Oh well at least it works for me.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] chrialex:
I have found sites that talk about it as well, but none that have a download link. :(
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Reefermattness:
Try this, just drop the 3 files into your "androidapps" folder.

http://reefermattness.scepterr.info/LiveWallpapers.rar
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] nkrick:
My impression is that the ability to see paid apps is locked down to certain countries/carriers. On AT&T (and on WiFi) I have always been able to see the paid apps.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] killerbie:
I really can't wait till another update is ready! :D :D (sorry for spam xd)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Talondvr:
Just tried this on my mine and seemed to work, but I've been trying to get WakeVoice Lite and its just not showing up in the marketplace. Using WiFi or marketenabler app I can find the Full version but not the lite version. Wish I could try it...:confused: