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[Desire General] ardsar:
The hardware is the same as the desire, apart from the larger display (which is LCD not AMOLED). I have come from the HD2 to the Desire and use it for work as well as play. The HD2 was just too big for everyday use. The desire works fine for work applications - using Touchdown for corporate mail sync etc etc. I use Copilot for navigation, but there are other soutions including google.
[Desire General] foxmeister:
Try this site for differences from a hardware perspective.

If you're not already sold on Android just being "better" than WinMo, go with the HD2. In a corporate environment, WinMo is probably just about a better choice than Android, but only barely and the gap can generally be covered by 3rd party applications. WinMo also has better support for multimedia (DivX etc), but again the gap is narrowing. In practically all other respects Android is a superior OS IMHO.

Regards,

Dave
[Desire General] RicardoPT:
for portugal not :S.....we pay alot for internet connection :S...I need a trust map like tomtom and ndrive...

I've already tried garmin and don't like it :S, just to much lag :S...and don't have my street loool

the camera is better then hd2 yes? In read the wm don't use very well the camera :S

Another thing I like to do a video call =/...on the desire it's not possible oO

hd2 can?

ps: thaks fot repply :D
[Desire General] foxmeister:
NDrive is available for Android, but my preferred choice is Copilot because it works very well and is extremely well priced (and has offline maps).

Neither the Desire nor the HD2 have front facing cameras, so video calls are not possible.

Regards,

Dave
[Desire General] hyocca:
To be honest, I've been using touch diamond 2, and windows mobile for me is a little disappointing! Seriously.

Get the desire! It changed my life.

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire General] RicardoPT:
this help a litle bit man :D.....I will search on youtube...but I'm disapointed with android os :S
[Desire General] andycted:
I'm coming from a WinMo 6.5.3 HTC Touch HD (HD1) and while I can't comment on the hardware of the HD2, I do miss a bit the larger screen, but otherwise I guess the Desire is better.

For the OS and software: android is sure more modern and oriented towards capacitive touchscreens, has better generic applications and games, but if I had to choose it purely for work I don't know what I would choose.

I sure as hell miss a solid email client and no aftermarket client on android comes close to Pocket Outlook integration, exchange, etc. That said, this is normal, since the desire pertains more to the consumer-oriented market, while winmo comes from the professional-oriented field. Besides if you only need it for work/emails/phone you could probably go with BB.
[Desire General] RicardoPT:
=/...man :S.....I don't know....

iphone 4g ??? looool much pay app =/...

soo...hd and desire don't have video call

whats is the best choise of the moment....I need a complete pda...and complete support like xda

I view reviews of the desire and I bought one....But i'm concern about this :S
[Desire General] foxmeister:
You pays your money and you takes your choice! You're posting on a Desire forum, so you are going to get a lot of nods towards the Desire!

Why not approach the problem from the other way round? If you have concerns about your Desire, tell us what they are! ;)

Regards,

Dave
[Desire General] Nuntius:
Coming myself from WinMo (which did the job), I'm must say I'm not at all disappointed with Android.

I only use it professionnally and I don't see what is your problem with it! Explain a wee bit!
[Desire General] RicardoPT:
I will try another roms and try this phone one more days...testing testing testing

my probleme is.....thats like a children phone

but its my thinking just for now
[Desire General] tudork:
The major thing that makes me miss my Touch Hd is the lack of the stylus and absence of Transcriber and Handwriting recognition. For professional use, sometimes I need to write longer emails and the stylus plus handwriting recognition was great for that. However, the desire is much faster. I think HD 2 is very fast too. If it has a stylus and writing recognition amd you need it professionally I would recommend windows mobile
[Desire General] Nuntius:
Waouw, that's a convincing explanation!

I didn't know they made phones for children.
[Desire General] foxmeister:
Indeed - I think I'll take the advice that the OP has in his sig! ;)

Regards,

Dave
[Desire General] RicardoPT:
bah...I don't like it at all......I want to sell it =/

I already put my sell in the markplace...350€ for I can buy one hd2
[Desire General] EddyOS:
I've got an HD2 and it's been sat in its box for 7 months as the Desire is SO much better. WinMo is ancient now compared to Android and the only thing going for it is the screen. Even with my own ROM on it it's not as good as the Desire out the box!

I wouldn't go back to WinMo now unless WP7S is something special - which I doubt!!
[Desire General] SkyWalker1726:
Who would trade Android for Winmo !!!????

Winmo is just GARBISH ! after two HTC phone with WM , i should say that i hate it !

Android is So MUCH BETTER !

if u want to go to Win-mo so badly , and call a USER FRIENDLY INTERFACE => " CHILD PHONE " then go for it !

dunno why some people must have a hard time using their phones to feel Professionals ! so why not using MS-DOS instead of windows and feel a lot more Professional !

with a little search u would find that the most HATED MOBILE OS IS INDEED : WINDOWS MOBILE !

PS : as a suggestion w8 at least for Winmo7 !
[Desire General] danbst:
The fact that MY HD2 is still sat on my desk is evidence enough that I'm not 100% convinced the Desire is the better option. I've stuck with the Desire for 3 weeks now getting to know it and flashing a few roms. I can cetainly see the appeal. I like the marktplace and I LOVE Rom Manager (100% the best feature for me) Browsing is nice, in fact MOST things are nice. I do feel Sat Nav is in a league of it's own on WinMob and I much prefer the bigger screen. The relative bulk of the phone doesn't put me off, I like it big in my hand (oo-er). If The Evo was out in the UK I would probably sell both and get one of them and wait patiently for Sat nav to get better on Android.
[Desire General] ericjennings:
I've had a Desire for a couple of weeks now and the HD2 for much longer.

When I got the Desire my plan was to switch phones every couple of days while deciding which I preferred. It hasn't quite worked out that way, I use the HD2 for a week or so and the Desire for a day or two.

I haven't rooted the Desire, I have stock ROMs on both phones. Nervous I'll brick it I suppose and on the HD2 there are so many cabs available on XDA to change the appearance of icons, sliders, clockfaces etc that I haven't felt any real need to flash a new ROM

Desire - better interface, touch screen much more responsive, better selection of apps

HD2 - much more tweakable, much better screen size. With Cookie's home tab and the various cabs I have installed I feel my HD2 is unique. Still new to Desire, perhap I can get the same level of customisation if I root it first?

When it comes to apps I don't really have that many on either phone so the Desire's app range isn't that big an influence. The ones I use the most are file manager, registry editor, ebook reader, satnav, media player, mail and messaging. I've got Swype on both but on the HD2 it doesn't seem to be quite as accurate as on the Desire, but that'll be the HD2 screen.

On the apps front the HD2 really wins out in that I can run Secubox - this is an app I use every day (its like Truecrypt for Winmo), and there doesn't seem to be an equivalent on Android.

For Satnav I have TomTom on HD2 and am still just using Google maps on Desire. I may try Copilot though.

Anyway, I'm still undecided. I use the HD2 most often but when I do use the Desire I can't stop picking it up and playing with it ...... even if I prefer the HD2 in the end, there's nothing like an evening spent stroking my Desire :)

Oh and I almost forgot - being able to run the HD2 as a wireless router has come in handy a couple of times, don't seem to be able to do that with the Desire
[Android Software Development] sync-novuln:
hello all

want to know if possible to increase mic volume of phone app. want to recompile packages/apps/Phone/src/com/android/phone and replace com.android.phone on milestone

A set volume with int like setStreamVolume

B manual amplitude akkumulation on raw byte stream

1st question where to find the point where the stream of the mic is requested in com/android/phone. If sb can tell, i will find the rest

2nd question is it possible to replace com.android.phone or have to parallel

...no problemo

searched the source

searched google

searched this forum

searched the source

nothing found

please answer solution, no ask why or say its wrong what i try

thx
[Android Software Development] sync-novuln:
will try to recompile and replace com.android.phone next weekend, if i find time. will then post the exact result of my attemts
[Android Software Development] sync-novuln:
no success to replace the phone app. is it possible?
[Android Software Development] sync-novuln:
since i noticed, that nobody has answered yet, i will try to figure out my idea in other words:

the original phone app for android has currently no functionality to set the microphone sensitivity directly. this is a problem if sb. wants to call another person who has a low speaker.

to solve this, i want to increase the microphone sensitivity by simply multiply the amplitude of the input stream (microphone stream).

0x20, 0x00, 0x7F, 0x00, 0x20, 0x00, 0x7F, 0x00

will be multiplied by 2 with saturation to

0x40, 0x00, 0x7F, 0x00, 0x40, 0x00, 0x7F, 0x00

expecting signed bytes as data format.

this will simulate that i will speak very clear even if i would speek normal. the saturation effect could be post processed to reduce crackling, but this is not high priority.

could anybody help me to start this? it will be grateful, even if it is a litte urgent.
[Android Software Development] midnjerry:
Have you looked at AudioFlinger?

I"ve been studying HTC FM Tuner, and I noticed that AudioFlinger set the volumes to my audio streams (represented as threads). If you could find a way to access the "recording" thread from mic, then maybe you can increase volume. AudioFlinger is low level stuff, and I don't know how to access it, but that could be a possibility for you.

Here's more info on it.

http pdk.android.com |online-pdk|guide|audio.html

Look at my log for FM Radio

.774: DEBUG/FmReceiverService(101): ******* ******* Processing job:FM_SET_VOLUME TimeSent:11:58:06 PM

07-15 23:58:06.774: DEBUG/FmReceiverService(101): ***** ***** processCommands:[]

07-15 23:58:06.824: INFO/global(1108): Default buffer size used in BufferedReader constructor. It would be better to be explicit if an 8k-char buffer is required.

07-15 23:58:06.824: DEBUG/AudioHardwareQSD(55): FM radio started.

07-15 23:58:06.824: DEBUG/AudioHardwareQSD(55): FM: Set Aux Gain 0 success

07-15 23:58:06.824: DEBUG/AudioFlinger(55): setStreamVolume(), stream:2, value:0.019055, output:1

07-15 23:58:06.824: DEBUG/AudioFlinger(55): setStreamVolume(), stream:4, value:0.501187, output:1

07-15 23:58:06.824: DEBUG/AudioFlinger(55): setStreamVolume(), stream:5, value:0.263027, output:1

07-15 23:58:06.824: DEBUG/AudioFlinger(55): setStreamVolume(), stream:7, value:1.000000, output:1
[Android Software Development] sync-novuln:
hello

does anybody know a good android developer forum ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] zengyee:
The build number of ROMs kept as 23569 for 2 months, any reason for that?

I am looking forward to new builds with better memory behavior:) (Memory leak free)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] shadixs:
The 23569 is the build number of windows mobile itself..

23xxx means windows 6.5.x

21xxx means windows 6.5

well, windows 7 has build number 7600 since first release untill now. why? because MS thinks they dont need a fix that requires a total recompile.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] undefined:
I agree with ^. but yea, we might not see many further builds in WinMo because Android is taking over the world. Im looking to get the *Aria* im kinda not wanting to tho. but I look at the builds in inverse, the older the build, the more stable, just in my opinion, I always have problems with WinMo 6.5.x, but 21xxx builds always work fine for me :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] XERO_Racer:
have you guys even forget?

Windows Phone 7 is Microsoft's main priority at this moment and Fall is just around the corner, after the LG Fathom was released, MS decides to finish up working on WP7
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bigchrizzieboy:
23123 ?

And what's build 23123 about?

Is that one newer or another MS project or something?

I'm running Deepshining:

28-Jun-2010: DeepShining X9.23123 without HTC Messaging Client - New

It's a build with start menu on bottom and newer than 23569?

Thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] panthersdzynes:
Build 23123 is Windows Mobile 6.5.x (6.5.5 or 6.5.3) as well as the Deep Shining ROM u have now (Build 23569)

Build 23123 may be older, yet if a chef builds a new ROM based on the 23123 build, it would make that ROM newer, not the base build number.

When the build number starts with 21xxx the start button will be on the top left of the home screen. Where builds that start with 23xxx the start button will be much bigger and at bottom left.

The 21xxx builds r moreso what we have been used to with the stock ROMs and they r more stable being there was little integration of sizes between pages. (If u read on in the threads, youll see the dialer was a big hassle to finally get the size right and NOT have a scroll bar on the right in the first 23xxx builds.)

I personally use the 23xxx builds, such as Im downloading Energy ROM Build 23673. With these newer, less stable, yet more finger friendly ROMs I hardly ever have to pull out the stylus anymore. Now dont be put off by the words "less stable". If u dont use the device as much as me (its glued to my hand installing and trying new software, customizing with new icons or sliders or clocks or themes or 3rd party programs, if its not connected to my computer, lol) then u may not run into the bugs that most of us who climb into our devices do. Such as one ROM I was recently using would shut the messaging client down everytime I opened to send or read my messages (email and text messaging). Yet that was the only bug I found with said ROM.

So as u can see when Chefs find a good, stable build; they like to improve on them. Ill tell you now I have tried the Energy build 23673 a few days ago, yet Ima flash junkie, so Im always trying something new. The 23673 build is quite fast and very reliable.

As long as we have chefs, the builds will never stop!! :D
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rr3636:
I'm trying to install Thai font onto my Desire.

Setup: HTC Desire w/Pays Desire 2.1 RockSolid v1.5 ROM

I'v tried 3 metods so far (see below):

Metod 1 & 2 results in the fonts going to /systems/fonts, while Metod 3 says allready exists (although does not list with 'ls'...). I also tried to copy the fonts to /systems/font (without 's' at the end).

In any case so far, I can't see thai font's while sms'ing / browsing.

And sorry, new poster, so can't link (but the below is easy to find with google, along with the fonts).

Anyone got any more ideas to how to get thai fonts (probably same with other fonts also), without going to froyo rom (I like sense ui 2.1 and no mic-echo...)

1) desire normal boot, and connect with adb-recovery.bat

adb remount

adb shell

cat /sdcard/fonts/DroidSans.ttf > /system/fonts/DroidSans.ttf

cat /sdcard/fonts/DroidSans-Bold.ttf > /system/fonts/DroidSans-Bold.ttf

cat /sdcard/fonts/DroidSerif-Regular.ttf > /system/fonts/DroidSerif-Regular.ttf

cat /sdcard/fonts/DroidSerif-Bold.ttf > /system/fonts/DroidSerif-Bold.ttf

cat /sdcard/fonts/DroidSerif-BoldItalic.ttf > /system/fonts/DroidSerif-BoldItalic.ttf

cat /sdcard/fonts/DroidSerif-Italic.ttf > /system/fonts/DroidSerif-Italic.ttf

reboot

2) same as 1) but from recovery

3) Terminal Emulator w/BusyBox

$ su

# mount -o rw,remount -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system

# mkdir /data/busybox

# cat /sdcard/busybox > /data/busybox/busybox

# chmod 755 /data/busybox/busybox

# mkdir /data/local

# cd /data/busybox

# ./busybox –install

# cp /sdcard/fonts/* /system/fonts
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Felys:
You can run pushfonts.bat in attached file via recovery mode to push thai fonts.

Credit for someone in pdamobiz.com that I cannot remembered.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rr3636:
using that zip file in recovery resulted in:

"E:No signature (52 files)

E:Verification failed

Installation aborted"

I might have done it wrong (installed as the zip file in recovery).

Anyway, I saw that this zip file contained more font files than the two other locations I have downloaded the thai fonts from. So I went to recovery and pushed all the font files manually to system/fonts (adb shell commands).

and now.....IT'S WORKING!!!!! thx :) :) :)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alinuxos:
Hello all,

I've got a very similar problem. I would like to install Georgian font into my defrost 16c system. For example I got DejavuSans.ttf (from Dejavu project) and I've allready tried to push it into /system/fonts (in recovery mode ofcourse). Pushing went well... but after reboot, no luck. Appear squares not georgian letters.

Anybody have some Idea?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Felys:
Which recovery state you are in? If you still in red triangle screen, the push will not be succeed (yeah it still say in cmd that they already pushed file to phone). I have run AM recovery, and then pushed the font via adb and it works.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rr3636:
Make sure you have all fonts. First times I tried I was missing mono and callback font files of the Thai font files. Not sure if dejavu has those fonts. I did it successfully in recovery at Ted triangle.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alinuxos:
I've tried as you said with AM Recovery, but I got the same result:

alinux$ ./adb-mac push /Users/alinux/Downloads/dejavu-fonts-ttf-2.31/ttf/DejaVuSans.ttf /system/fonts

786 KB/s (633604 bytes in 0.786s)

After reboot there is no DejaVuSans.ttf in /system/fonts directory.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Forethat:
What is recovery mode?

Is it required to root the phone prior to using the puchfont.bat utility?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Cello:
It allows streaming (via LAN or Internet) of your video library or source streaming in your internal home network.

So you can always find all your video files.

View attachment 352265View attachment 352266View attachment 352267

Streaming from device internal (eg Dreambox DM800).

To stream you must run a server component on your home PC that will send the client the video stream appropriately recoded to go through the poor upload bandwidth that our ISP provides us

The client will connect to the server getting the stream as if it were any source available on the Internet.

Prerequisites Server:

Framework 3.5

VideoLan 1.0.5 (Free) NOT compatible (only for now) with 1.1.0

ClientMobile Prerequisites:

NetCF 3.5

TCMP (free) or CorePlayer (commercial)

On h**p://forum.hdblog.it/showthread.php?p=87306#post87306 (Italian forum)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] espowsong:
on my dreambox for some reason the user or password has been changed from default and i cant figure it out.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rogershabit:
Hello everyone,

I recently bought a Desire on ebay. The phone is from the Orange. I have unlocked the simlock with a code that i bought online. I am able ot make and receive calls. It so happens that i am not able to use the internet. I have have seen loks about rooting and changing rom in the site and i have to say that i am a bit lost as how to proceed. If i could get rid of the Orange stuff that would be great. But if that is not possible i would like to get the internet part of the phone working. I have to also point out that i'm not sure what i'm at when it comes to the technical stuff. So in friendly fashion that I have noticed here on the site I ask for assistance and advice.

Roger
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] foxmeister:
You haven't mentioned which provider you are trying to use, and since you talking about removing the sim lock it presumably isn't Orange,

Check your APN settings - Menu -> Settings -> Wireless & Network -> Mobile Networks -> Access Point Names

Regards,

Dave
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rogershabit:
Hi Dave

I'm trying to get set up on O2 IRL.

I've got to the APN screen and it is blank.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] elmoono:
You need to populate the apns for o2 - they are different for payg and monthly contract. These links might help

http://forum.o2.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=42946&sid=086fdb3e76391ef9d4287a4d2c734aed

http://www.avforums.com/forums/htc-...using-o2-simplicity-sim-web-mms-settings.html

To debrand the phone and remove orange, 2 choices: root to use any roms you like, or just gold card method to go to generic htc rom - quite easy to do, took me 30 mins. i used this link to make my sd card a gold card:

http://www.roothtchero.co.uk/goldcard-2

then i flashed RUU_Bravo_HTC_WWE_1.15.405.4_Radio_32.30.00.28U_4. 05.00.11_release_122704.exe from:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=695667 after that set up phone and latest update downloaded via wifi to go to version 1.21.405.2
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rogershabit:
Hi Dave

I got the internet settings from the O2 Ireland web site. It works fine now that i have added the info.

Thank you for your help

Roger
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] conb123:
So I see that google have rolled out froyo for nexus ones now. Will this make it easier for devs to create a hero port and is anyone working on one?
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bonesy:
Q& A MY FRIEND NOT DEVELOPMENT! (which is where this will go if its not deleted)

Developers are on the case but its not just a case of google releasing source then BAM! developers release it too,needs alot of fine tuning before release..Follow people on twitter to see progress..koush,cyanogen,villainrom,nprussel,feeyo (if he has one),wesgarner all these devs are working on froyo at the minute..

Please think about the topic before posting,if it is development post here,Q&A post there,Theme or app post there.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ddotpatel:
Please post questions like this in GENERAL OR QnA!?

There are already threads on this subject. Have a look around before posting next time.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] conb123:
Sorry

Oops, very sorry, feel free to delete or move this.
[Vibrant General] ShawtyKING:
Its seems that the fine folks at phandroid have stumbled across this little nugget of info tucked neatly away in the fine print of the Samsung Vibrant's shop page.

†On approved credit. $82.50 down payment, plus 3 monthly payments of $82.50, required. 0% APR. Taxes & fees additional. Available only at T-Mobile-owned retail stores; see store for details.

phandroid.com/2010/06/30/samsung-vibrant-to-cost-330-off-contract-galaxy-s-fine-print/

If u do the math that equates to $330:D. I hope T-Mobile plays it smart and doesn't change the price before launch, because I definitely assumed the off contract price would be $450-$550:mad:

In any event, there also seems to be a "REAL" screen cap of the actual price tag on the page before TMO decided to remove it. Here's the link to that also...

androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-s/112106-no-secret-vibrant-full-price-329-99-a.html#post1041189

DO RIGHT BY US LOYAL, DOWNTRODDEN CUSTOMERS TMO!!
[Vibrant General] reuthermonkey:
Jesus Christ. Do you seriously think that the Nexus One retails for $529 but THIS phone - which is better in every.single.way is going to retail for $330?

That's quite literally one of the stupidest things I think i've read in a long, long time.