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[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] lkgonzales:
Great, thanks for the advice. Perhaps it would be a good idea to back up these files early and once 2.2 is out and i upgrade, i can just copy them back to the same folders. That means that the Froyo 2.2 also replaces the radio version, correct?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Bavilo:
Most likely, yes. But I doubt that there will be a FroYo leak anyway.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] rizdroid:
How to push them back w/o root?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Bavilo:
Well, you need to root first obviously.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] lkgonzales:
Yup, i was able to do it just a few minutes ago.. backed up those files to my laptop. I used Root Explorer 2.2. I think a newer version allows you do do it unrooted.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] lkgonzales:
Now that would be a great disappointed. But yes, i also have that bad feeling that no leak will be seen anytime soon.

But if ever it does come out, will a Telus Froyo 2.2 install on the Milestone with a locked bootloader?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Bavilo:
Yes ofcourse
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] lkgonzales:
Then now i know to keep my fingers crossed for the leak to be real. I just don't get it why Motorola locked the Milestone bootloader but kept the Droid's open. They got lots of Custom ROMs and Milestone owners feel like it's the end of the line for their devices.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] bemymonkey:
Now that's info I would be willing to kill (flies, or maybe frogs?) for :p

I'm starting to get the feeling that some engineer just ****ed up and forgot to lock it, or went rogue and unlocked the bootloader on the Droid image at the last moment ;)
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] DAGr8:
Ok news flash everyone there is no leak , believe it when you see it now plz let this thread die already oh wait if I say this :

Is the leaked out yet ?

Maybe it will go faster ,, :cool:
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] gemini002:
i agree...my source works for telus was suppose to email me the files dunno what happened ..maybe his froyo is water marked dunno awaiting a call im sorry guys i want this just as bad a everyone i will not post in this thread unless i have files keep fingers crossed but who knows maybe my source is talking out his ass..hope not though sorry to everyone sleeping by there computer...
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] lkgonzales:
I'm still hoping... keep us updated.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] gemini002:
no news saw him again said he would email it i feel like a dirty rotten troll:mad:
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Lesiroth:
Nah. don't worry.. (as long as you do get it in the end ;) )
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] jhoward1082:
Hmm, anyone else see this? It is part of a quote from Motorola Marketing Director, James King:

"Next European Milestone and 2.2 (Froyo). I have expressed over the last few days that the decision is pending. The team here has been collating key pieces of information and views from this community in the last month and providing input to relevant teams in Motorola so they are aware. I am pushing for that decision to be made as quickly as possible, and we can then all go from there. Some others ask why the decisions on upgrades take so long, and why does implementation then take much longer still. What I can say and have stated recently is that upgrades are not a walk in the park. Sure there are short cuts that people can take, but when you have to integrate software to a specific hardware, then test it and integrate with third party applications, let alone any innovation from ourselves, plus then get approvals to make this all official and safe… its is a big undertaking that requires planning and resource and third party coordination to see this all through. As I say, once we have decision, we will inform. JK"​

Seems like he's saying Froyo on the Milestone is not even a sure thing at this point...

http://www.droid-life.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-efuse-rumor-phone-wont-blow-up/
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Quintasan:
I'm exchaning my Milestone for a HTC Hero or even G1 if they do not release Froyo, are they fukking playing with us?

I gave Motorola a chance when I bought my Milestone, but they wasted it soooo much. I'm not buying any other phone from that stupid company. First saying "Yes, there will be 2.2 for Milestone" then going 50:50. What next? Maybe release Froyo without JIT or Flash BEACUSE IT WAS NOT TESTED (yet even G1 can run Froyo). They are just ridiculous.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] jaikben22:
Then atleast give us a change to do full custom rooms like droid
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] paxcer:
That kind of supports my suspictions.

If there wasn't a leak of Froyo for Droid I'd be almost sure that the latest iteration of Android is not comming to our phones.

Think of it that way: Motorola is launching Droid 2 any time now, Milestone 2 will probably follow in the nearest future. Droid 2 is an evolution of original Droid - with updated CPU and better keyboard. If not at launch, it'll get Froyo very soon.

And now imagine that you're Motorola - from the business point of view updating Droid/Milestone to Froyo doesn't make any sense. Current users of those phones will have no need/incentive to buy the new version of the headset. And Motorola, with their plummeting market share is in great need for boosting sales.

"Power users" will keep complaining about how bad Motorola is, not updating it's phones, about locked bootloader... But really, don't expect that you'll influence the corporate policy of Motorola. We're just a tiny group among all Motorola customers.

And what Motorola cares about, just like any other company, is an AVERAGE USER and his needs (defined by focus groups, market research, etc.), like more comfortable keyboard, facebook integration, exchange mail support and so on.

Of course, it's just my opinion. And I hope I'm wrong :-)
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] kniffo80:
me too my friend, me too! sadly, i bought my milestone last year december (or november?). so it's only under 1 year in my hands and motorola decides, not pushing updates anymore? that's really really really really (100 times more) CRAP! 1 year and the support is ceased? i bought this phone ... to enthusiatic. next phone is definitively NOT a motorola phone. i'll switch back to HTC, for SURE!
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Huber90:
Well, HTC is surely not renowned for its "regular" firmware updates :D Just look how long it took for the Hero to have 2.1...Dream and Magic have been abandoned to their fate (read: XDA and so...). The Desire will have FroYo, but it will be abandoned, too, when a new terminal will come out (maybe by the rumoured Desire HD, the "european" EVO 4G).

It's not only HTC, or Motorola, look at Samsung with their first Galaxy (and not only the Galaxy)...every company behaves like this...that's the Android's greatest limit, in my opinion. Look at the iOs...ok, it runs only in one terminal, it's closed, I don't even like it and bla bla bla...but hey, the updates are guaranteed for AT LEAST one year...so, even if you have the "old" model, you have the updates, maybe with some limitations, but you have it.

Google should make a deal with the companies regarding this matter...I read that with Gingerbread the situation will be different...I really hope so, Android is a great mobile OS and would be a shame if it was "limited" by some crappy marketing decisions.

Sorry for the OT and the long post:D
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] bemymonkey:
You're forgetting that the Magic, Dream and most other HTC devices are all user-upgradable. As soon as your warranty runs out (or before, if you don't mind the risk of voiding the waranty), you can put a custom ROM on there - hell, Froyo for the Dream and Magic is practically here :p

The Milestone, on the other hand, is completely dependent on updates from Motorola...
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Huber90:
Yes I know, but I said that because he was referring to the OFFICIAL support of Motorola, so I was comparing it to the HTC's official one, that surely is not better;)
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] bemymonkey:
You're right, of course. I was just trying to make the point that, unless Motorola's update policy becomes magically perfect over night, you'll still be better off with a device with an open bootloader...

Motorola Milestone update policy so far:

-Sold a phone with "View Flash 10.1 content directly in the web browser!" - 9 months after the release, we still don't have the relevant software update to enable this feature

-No transparency in terms of information - we weren't told when updates were coming, hell, we usually weren't even told THAT they were coming

-Out of about 300 Motorola-internal sources, 100 say that Froyo is coming soon, 100 say it isn't coming at all, and 100 say the decision is pending...

It may not be worse than HTC's update track record, but it still isn't good.

I'll take an open bootloader any day, thanks very much. :p
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] thanharts:
What does it mean? Do you have MS's open bootloader ??
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] guildamx:
Guess he just means his next phone will have an open BL...
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] bemymonkey:
Actually, I just meant that I'd rather have an open bootloader with HTC's update track record, than Motorola's update track record (slightly better, but horrendous since they announced that Froyo, a prerequisite for Flash, which happens to be one of the No. 1 features they advertised the Milestone with, might not be coming for the Milestone at all). :p

So no, I haven't cracked the bootloader ;)
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] ongadget:
Motorola will follow legal action if doesn't update to froyo or somehow brings flash to 2.1. And they are updating the droid to froyo (at least from what I know). So why wouldn't they update the milestone (identical hardware except for radios)? That would be taking too much risk to save a little money and effort.

I know class action law suits may take months or even years. As of now canada seems to be best country where the stone was officially launched to start a law suit. I know it takes a lot of initiative and support from the milestone community. But we need for change our tone from begging motorola to threatening them. We've been promised flash(froyo) and we should get it.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] JPHCCFC:
gemini any news from your telus source? Is this possible leak all over?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] gemini002:
no news bro...sooo pissed at dude:(
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] twasnow:
lol, well Gemini002, I guess your tech rep didn't know so much after all.

let this be a lesson to all of us, trust nothing a telus rep tells you about the future, unless of course they say they don't know, then they are probably being truthful.
[EVO 4G General] baiatul:
It's interesting to play with this. The sipgate site is very slow, maybe many people are trying to get their free number at once. I live in NYC but it assigned me a Calif number.

http://lifehacker.com/5349506/make-free-voip-calls-from-google-voice
[EVO 4G General] Skyloc:
I've actually done this, I have a softphone set up that I can call people with, and it shows up with a local number when I call my house phone/cell. NOT the california number.

If you dial out on the softphone and its showing up as a Cali number on caller id then you're doing it wrong.

I've actually ordered a Linksys PAP2T-NA to hook my housephone to the internet, and using it as my main phone line. The only thing I lose is E911 capabilities, but I can work around that and everyone has cell phones in my house.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Demon_man:
sorry posted a request for a mod in the wrong area :o
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abmantis:
You should post this request here: http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=263

It won't be seen by the mods here :/
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Demon_man:
cheers mate :)
[Android] ozydious:
If anyone out there has attempted or successfully achieved dual boot with villains dualizer, well I need help.

I've gotten to the point where I have to enter the following into my virtual Linux console on virtual box:

Cd ~/Downloads/dualizer-v.0/

Chmod +x dualizer

./dualizer setup

All goes well until the last command where it says something like: make sure Java is in lineup!

Can anyone help me?
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lewman:
Hi all,

I was wondering whether anyone has any advice on an issue i'm experiencing at with my Hero.

Whenever I receive a call the ringtone (and vibrate) do not function at all. This is despite having them both enabled. I have tried formatting my phone completely and trying different Roms (such as Cronos and superhero) It works fine for a while after a new ROM install but soon after stops working again.

When I receive a call the mute icon appears on the notification bar temporarily. I also have lost the ability when i receive a call to push the volume buttons on the side up and down to change the volume.

Can anyone think why this might be happening? Could it be down to a program such as juice defender? (i have tried disabling it to no luck!)

Any help is appreciated :)

-Lewman
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Modtard:
Hi. I am really interested in getting the TP2 and I've been using the search function to try to find out whether the TP2 can work with third party applications through wifi only, but I can't find an answer. This is important because I can't afford a data plan and want to be able to reference things on my phone while at work. The programs are epocrates, qxmd, and the like. I've read that 3rd party apps only work through data on blackberries (even though they have wifi antennas) and was wondering if the same applies to any of the HTC phones (mainly the touch pro2)? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Miami_Son:
Welcome. Please try to use more descriptive thread titles in posts.

Whether an app can support Wifi is not really a function of the phone. I have yet to find one that didn't on either my Tilt 2 or the Incite it replaced. The app itself doesn't usually care which connection it uses so long as one is present. The real trick is to not use ANY data at all. Almost any WinMo phone will access the network for something, usually for something like aGPS or to download weather info. These will be relatively small amounts of data, but it takes some effort to set your phone up to not use ANY data. I use a couple of tracking and GPS programs that would not be possible without a data plan. Having one of these smartphones and not letting it use data seems a waste to me. Wifi is only so accessible.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Modtard:
Thanks for your answer. I really don't want a smartphone, but it might be required and I just want a way to access it without paying extra money.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] JW 301:
hey I have a question

you know, if there is an OTA update, you can get the URL of the update via adb logcat.

my question is, where does the updater look for updates?

you know, there must be some xml file or something that is downloaded and read by the phone, where it finds the URL of the update package.

logcat doesn't give me anything. maybe a sniffer would do?

if it's a xml file, you could check for updates via pc ;)

I'm just curious, trying to understand how the update process works ;)

greetz, JW
[HD2 General] corlygunnz:
help..... how to dump my hd2 rom so I can flash it later. so everything stay the same and I don't have to install all cabs again and setting. I'm a noob, I'm also trying to find out how to make my own clock and icons. thanks
[HD2 General] danxtian:
i don't think it is possible to back-up your current rom n settings.
[HD2 General] dipaolnv:
Check the Energy ROM thread. There is some talk of it in post #5.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=591784
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
i did it with my o2 rom just to see how to do it, but in all honesty i won't be doing it again. No point when the rom is available to download, and it doesnt save settings anyway. Ive posted teh how-to just because you asked about 'dumping the rom' so it will no doubt get hits from epople wanting to know how, and not just people like you wanting to backup, not dump.

dump the .raw partitions, reading step one in THIS first post will help.

Then set up ervius visual kitchen and use the 'raws2nbh' function to rebuild the raw files into the .nbh rom file.

BUT, it wont save your rom as it is now, with all your settings and such, it will only dump the rom as it was when you first ran the phone.

Far easier to just download the stock rom from somewhere.

Plus the rom you create even though it is stock will still be seen as a cooked rom by teh phone, so you would need hspl installed to flash it.

So, you need to look more into backup software, like sprite backup, PIm backup, or sashimi/makisu, or the like.
[HD2 General] corlygunnz:
thanks very much. I guess I stick with backing up the settings and flashing the stock rom... thanks for the feedback again... ps: the point was to have the rom just how out was when dumped...
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
Yea, i know what you mean.

I found a cooked rom that i liked, and the chef also offered the kitchen with it. (which means i run the kitchen, press 'build' and fifteen minutes later the rom is created, ready to flash.)

Then, knowing i have a rom that i already like, i can start to make small adjustments. Progs that i normally have to reinstal every time i have converted to cookable packages, various registry tweaks that i used to instal from cab every time i have now cooked in.

A great way to get an easy intro into cooking, but because it's already built you aren't starting from a stock rom, facing weeks of tweaks. Instead i know i already like the rom, and i can slowly apply extra tweaks as i learn.

Look out for rom threads who offer 'comes with kitchen'.

ChuckyROM is the one that comes to mind, but there are others too.

I now have cookies home tab mod pre installed, and right from the start it has my layout, and all my quicklinks already there, as well as most of teh cabs i used to instal manually already built in, owner name pre set, home location/timezone etc etc all pre set, my own lockscreen, i've removed tons of unused images and language files, and such like.

My rom is down to around 145MB. (Stock is around 200MB+).

Best of all, i cooked in 'remotetracker', so if my phone gets stolen/lost, , even a hard reset wont stop it being trackable.

Fun stuff, if you dont mind spending a few hours at a time cooking/flashing/re-cooking/flashing/re-re-cooking, , , hehe
[HD2 General] corlygunnz:
how can I pre install, the layout and quick links on cookie too my rom, I'm a noob, I got this new rom I like and a want to tweak it, its going to be my first rom. can you or someone direct me to tutorials for cooking and tweaking.... I'm a quick learner. lol
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
well its not that simple. when a chef cooks the rom, it is usually protected, so you cant just dump a cooked rom. Thats why you have to get a pre built kitchen for that rom.

Sadly there is no simple step by step for all this.

THIS thread is for OSKitchen, which is pretty good, and fairly straightforward.

I suggest you just get a kitchen, dump a stock rom into it, and just have a look around it for a while first, so you get the idea of what you are facing.

Follow posts 1 - 4 and that should give you an evenings tinkering to get started.

Or there is ervius' visual kitchen, which isn't quite so straight forward, but works really well for me.

Reading HERE and HERE and HERE

and lots of reading in 'Chef Central'

However, to get immediate results, i found it far better to start with a pre built kitchen.

HERE is the one i first started to tinker with.

I gave up on kitchens a half dozen times in the past months, it just seems so overwhelming, which is why a ready made rom i could make minor tweaks to came in so handy.
[HD2 General] corlygunnz:
thanks allot, I'm going to get to it right away. I'll post if I hit a wall.
[HD2 General] corlygunnz:
how do i cook cooki home tab. is not working, is the anything i got to do?
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
convert it to an ext package, which will generate a folder with various files/subfiles, one of which is a reg file, edit that, add your registry entries (extracted from your currently running phone, using ceregistry editor ((if you dont already have them, immediately you finish reading this go get wincecab manager, ceregistry editor, and look up CAB_Converter too.)))

Use cab converter to change the cab into an ext.

as always, the best advice is to read everything, then read it again, hehe.

A working example.

connect your phone to usb, open ceregistry editor, click connect, browse to HKLM\software\HTC\manila\Home There are 80 or so numbered folders, Thats for the quicklinks.

In the tree view on the left, right click the folder Home and choose 'export'. A file save dialog will open, call it something like home, OK. You should get something like '81 keys exported'

Now, browse to the folder where the converted cookies EXT is, find the file 'app.reg'. Double click to open it in ceregistry editor, you will see a similar registry view as you saw on the phone, except with loads less entries. Find HKLM\software\HTC\manila\Home, select the home folder, hit delete, confirm, its now gone.

Go to top of ceregistry editor - hit Edit - Import registry keys from file.

Now, by default it will be looking for .reg files, but we exported ours as .cereg, so change the filetype dropdown to 'all files'.

Find your 'home.cereg' file we exported, click it, you will get a 'sucessfully imported,....blahblah', hit save, and now, when you cook the rom, your quicklinks will already be there as soon as the phone first boots.
[HD2 General] fhaines:
Use SPB backup

Use SPB backup. Works wonders. I have a backup for the 3 or 4 roms I run. So all I have to do is load the rom, load spb backup and restore the backup and all my settings, email accounts, facebook and the such is ready to go.

fhaines :rolleyes:
[HD2 General] corlygunnz:
i just got me the spb backup, and is working great for me. thanks.
[HD2 General] Showtime7:
The simple solution here is SPB Backup...

EDIT: oops, jumped the gun. was already suggested. xD

glad you got it figured out
[HD2 General] ohiosux:
This step is much more complicated than it sounds. Any possibility that you could include instructions for this?

Thanks!
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
sure you want to bother? it wont save your settings as they are now, so you are essentially dumping the stock rom as it was when you got the phone (Assuming you're running a stock rom that is, if its a cooked rom it probably wont convert anyway)

All (most) of teh stock roms are available to download, so its an accademic task only, , , ,
[HD2 General] ohiosux:
Actually, yes. I realize its redundant work, but I don't see how I could ever become a proper "chef" if I can't even manage to dump a ROM. :-)
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
hehe, well, ive only done it once, so you know as much as me, , get ervius vis kitchen (im sure other kitchens can do it too, just i use evk) click extra buttons, top left button is raws2nbh, follow the prompts.

You dont need to do this to cook, you know that? the kitchen will import a downloaded stock nbh, no need for the dump to get a kutchen working.