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[Desire General] PaulW21781:
If the microphone sensitivity was turned down then I reckon that would help. I remember having similiar issses on 2.1 with audiomod kerrnels. The solution posted by other saying turn down the in call volume is no good tbh, as the receiving end still gets blasted with noise.
[Desire General] dnlgee:
AFAIK people are still working on resolving this issue.
[Desire General] sonderschalter:
But isn´t that more or less a workaround without resolving the real cause? I do not understand why not more people bring that up...

So far I have only seen that AdamG´s got that on his "ToDo" list - the others only mention the echo problem...
[Desire General] nvivas:
I also have this issue with echo / white noise.

I'm using Defrost latest ROM.
[Desire General] dnlgee:
Yea AdamG has said he's looking into it, and I'm sure also Kali- and defer along with the Cyanogen team are looking into it. There'll be a resolution within time, I'm sure.
[Desire General] sonderschalter:
Do you think? Let´s hope so, by goodness... ;)

As already mentioned, I am not as sure as you are. None of them highlighted it as an issue, the only thing they bring up is the "echo"....
[Desire General] dnlgee:
Everybody knows the white noise/static is there with it being reported so often, although it's not as big as an issue as the echo (IMO), but it will be sorted eventually. :D
[Desire General] f3d0r:
At the end of the day HTC is to blame for removing the second mic, voice quality is sub-par even on stock roms...
[Desire General] cfchong:
While Google has released the Froyo source to AOSP, I believe the source that Google has been working on was meant for Nexus One.

Nexus One has a noise cancellation feature utilizing 2 microphones. The first microphone will pick up sounds and the system will generate a reverse phase of these sounds. These generated sounds will be used to match and cancel off the sounds coming in from the second microphone.

For example, you are using the phone beside a fountain. Due to the distance between you and the fountain, both microphones will pick up the same volume of the sound from the fountain. On the other hand, when you are speaking on the phone, the microphone you are speaking into will register a louder sound of your voice compared to the second microphone at the back of the phone. The noise cancellation software will take the sounds from the first microphone and generate a reverse phase of the sounds. Then these generated sounds are matched against the sounds coming in from the second microphone. Since the volume of the sounds coming from the fountain is the same for both microphones, they are canceled off. The sound of your voice is louder from the first microphone than the second microphone and is only partially canceled. This results in the other party been able to hear your voice without (or faintly) the background sound of the fountain giving the impression that the your voice is very clear.

Coming back to Desire, it does not have the second microphone but the noise cancellation program is still residing in the AOSP source which was meant for Nexus One. This program is the one generating the "white noise" and "echo" for the non existing second microphone.

Since the source has been released, I am sure someone will be able to identify and disable/remove the noise cancellation program. Or someone may leak an HTC Desire Froyo test ROM. Whichever comes first. :p
[Desire General] sonderschalter:
cfchong, thanks a lot for your detailed explanation. The technical principle behind the second mic I knew already, but that´s the first time that I read that the noise cancellation program is still existing within the AOSP source.

So again, thank you!

And hopefully our great developers will find a way to identify and remove that part properly - the mentioned leak was a (presumable) point I haven´t thought about so far. Gives additional "hope" that there´ll be a solution before the official HTC release...
[Desire General] cfchong:
That is a guess...based on the fact that OpenDesire using the AOSP source has the same issues as the ported ROMs other than the white noise and echo...
[Desire General] sonderschalter:
Although it's a guess, it seems to be absolutely reasonable...

Would be interesting to get a comment from a developer, if it is really like that. If so, then all coming fixes would only be workarounds without (most probably) getting the origin quality (which we all know is not the best anyway)....
[Desire General] Vorbeth:
I'm looking through the source and so far can see:

res/values/config.xml
119 <!-- Determines if device implements a noise suppression device for in call audio-->
120 <bool name="has_in_call_noise_suppression">false</bool>
src/com/android/phone/PhoneUtils.java
112 /** Noise suppression status as selected by user */
1711 if (!context.getResources().getBoolean(R.bool.has_in_call_noise_suppression)) {
1716 audioManager.setParameters("noise_suppression=auto");
1718 audioManager.setParameters("noise_suppression=off");
1733 if (!context.getResources().getBoolean(R.bool.has_in_call_noise_suppression)) {
1745 if (!context.getResources().getBoolean(R.bool.has_in_call_noise_suppression)) {
1750 String noiseSuppression = audioManager.getParameters("noise_suppression");

Is the default value in phone.apk

I will continue to hunt around for more.
[Desire General] neomoz:
You still need some sort of noise and feedback filtering though. I'm guessing the nexus one just uses the second mic noise suppression to remove feedback that comes from the ear piece, especially since the second mic is closer to the ear piece.

This is why even removing the noise suppression in the roms can still equate to echo when the ear piece volume is quite high.

Might have to look at what htc did with the their 2.1 rom, they might of implemented some other form of noise filter/feedback filtering, something that can be ported across.
[Desire General] JHalliday0:
FroYo will also come out for the HTC Magic, could we imagine that we mix the port of N1 2.2 and Magic 2.2. In fact the Magic does NOT have a second mic.
[Desire General] Vorbeth:
I posted the code above, as by default

has_in_call_noise_suppression = false

but in the N1 vendor tree it = true

also the comment in the code reads "<!-- This device implements a noise suppression device for in call audio-->" meaning it is a hardware feature ie second mic.
[Desire General] sonderschalter:
Quite interesting, thanks for pulling that out. So you think that the code is written per default for devices with second mic?

Of course that kind of filtering or more handling any "incoming signals" is mandatory. Is it hard to compare the regular Desire 2.1 ROM with the regular N1 2.1 ROM? If the specific lines could be identified clearly, it should be possible to adopt that to FroYo, shouldn´t it? Are those areas in the source code at one certain place or spreaded around?

I think it makes more sense to go bottom up rather than trying to combine codes that are originally not meant to be used for the Desire - in terms of avoiding other issues that could come up with that.
[Desire General] blackie84:
Report the issue here

http://code.google.com/p/opendesirerom/issues/list
[Desire General] Vorbeth:
I think maybe a bug exists in phone.apk somewhere that has noise_suppression = auto/on regardless of what is in the vendor config.

Does this noise echo problem happen when using a wired/BT headset?
[Desire General] sonderschalter:
Good idea from AdamG, cheers for the hint.

One possibility, I can also imagine that everything regarding noise_suppression is dedicated for devices with a second mic in general. I still think that comparing 2.1 HTC Desire stock ROM with 2.1 N1 stock ROM in the certain areas would be the best approach.

Haven´t used FroYo ROMs long enough to answer that question properly. I did not get complaints while using BT headset, but it was only in one or two calls. I remember another user that reported the issue with BT headset as well, but it was only one...
[Desire General] jstegeman:
I had the echo problem when using a wired headset. I've been looking at PhoneUtils.java to see if there is perhaps a bug in there. Just checked, and it doesn't seem that there's any problem - it should refuse to turn on noise suppression if the config says it's not there.
[Desire General] jstegeman:
What if we tried changing the config to indicate that the device does have noise suppression, then we can use the UI on the phone to disable it?
[Desire General] sonderschalter:
Although I haven´t had noteworthy problems regarding echo, there is most probably a correlation between white noise and echo - did you have white noise problems as well when using your BT headset?

So at least when it comes to the echo, it is not related to hardware - more precisely the missing second mic - but to the AOSP source.

As already mentioned earlier, the (from my point of view) best approach would be to compare the corresponding areas in the stock 2.1 HTC ROM with the stock 2.1 N1 ROM.

Unfortunately I am not deep enough in that topic, however I´m actually about to start getting familiar with it. Will surely be useful in the future as well...

By then I hope that there are users around with more skills willing to share thier knowledge in order to solve those annoying problem(s)...
[Desire General] abc27:
The echo / white noise problem

I've a theory about this issue with FroYo roms.

Considering that these ROMs were designed and tested on the Nexus One with its dual noise-cancelling mics then it's a given that support for this was written in to the kernel.

The kernel used by HTC for the Desire more than likely either has support for that commented out or removed. My question is would it not be just a simple case of seeing the difference between both the stock Desire kernel and the FroYo kernel and then just editing it to reflect that of the Desire.
[Desire General] nvivas:
Check out new defrost 2.0a. Finally the echo is solved!
[Touch2 General] deepakmk:
Not too good, i know its to customize and stuff.

HTC Is screwing me over, every now and then while texting it hangs and sometimes tmail.exe failed to respond and id have to soft resets, thats bull****!

I want this rom >> http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=707103

But im not too sure how >< Can someone tell me the steps,

Im using original rom and ive never modified anything thanks.
[Touch2 General] Frank C:
Hello Deepak, first thing I would say go to the Rom section and read this thread.....http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=668926

And if you have specific questions on a Rom ask them in the appropriate thread or directly to the Chef..for sure he will react....;)
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dr9722:
Forgive me if I dont explain this very well but I will try my best!...

I was running Villain ROM 10 until a few days ago and I have now restored by Hero back to the stock 1.5 image (Orange branded) in time for the OTA 2.1 update. I have also restored the recovery image back to default.

The WWE release of 2.1 is now out but Orange are still dragging there heals over it so I want to load a 1.5 WWE image on my Hero so I can then download the 2.1 OTA.

HOWEVER....

The WWE RUU does not work, keeps coming up USB error. I have also tried flashing Amon's recovery again to run an update.zip of WWE 1.5 but Flashrec keeps saying Failed and I cannot flash any recovery image.

Any ideas what I can do to get the WWE 1.5 installed?

Thanks for your help in advance. Dan.
[Desire General] pnearn:
iMy work doesnt allow Android phones onto exchange as yet (security concerns). Hoping they will with froyo

What I need therefore is an app that connects over the OWA web interface (HTTPS), much like remote mail in Outlook. Can use OWA on the browser but its a pain

Does Touchdown work this way, or are there any others out there?
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] mba07:
Can Anybody please upload the original panels for the xperia x1 in cab form.

I specifically need the original sony ericcson xperia panel with the rainbow clock on it.

I have tried the ftp links given on xda dev and they dont work, states network address not found.
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] Kdio:
Missread ... sorry
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] hebigakure:
i need the panel manager. because the custom rom that i use doesnt have them
[HTC Vox] kabeza:
Hi guys

I've been looking for some battery supplier, but I could find only some OEM chinese battery for my HTC S710.

These batteries are very cheap, u$s7, but they don't last more than 6 months...

Does any1 know where could I get an original battery replacement for my HTC S710? (which accepts paypal)

Thanks a lot, :rolleyes:
[HTC Vox] gutek85:
Did you look on eBay?? Maybe only a parts of S710 or S730(I tried)...

I recently bought 6 damaged pieces very cheap:p
[HTC Vox] kabeza:
I finally bought another cheap chinese oem battery replacement, for $6, but the history will end like the previous ones...

No original replacement battery found
[HTC Vox] gutek85:
You looked for nev or original??
[HTC Vox] kabeza:
I was looking for a New original HTC S710 replacement. I only found a new oem chinese generic replacement :o
[HTC Vox] gutek85:
New AND original...? You are demanding;) Sorry, but I can't help you:(
[HTC Vox] bjs5561:
batteriesonthego(dot)com/battery-shop/pc/CS-DS710XL-HTC-PDA-Battery-153p2812.htm

Its pretty much two batteries grouped together. It comes with a modified battery cover since the OEM will not fit the expanded battery. Works really well and lasts me 2 days with HEAVY internet usage! Hope this helps!
[HTC Vox] kabeza:
thanks for the tip bjs5561

Will contact them to see if they can ship it to Argentina
[HTC Vox] tobbbie:
You may want to search ebay as well, like this.
[HTC Vox] Mrkblo:
I bought one of this batteries...

It didn't worked on my vox =/
[HTC Vox] kabeza:
I guess I won't buy it then. Also, I'd have to get a new case for that, and I'm sure I won't be able to get one of such width
[HTC Vox] M_T_M:
Thread closed. Issue seems to be resolved. If needed....make new thread in the Marketplace forum

Cheers,
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ArtieQ:
Is it possible to make the phone not charge when you plug it into the computer? I just want it to charge while it's in the charger.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MasDroid:
Hmm... i don't think so. AFAIK, any of the sync options you choose while connected via USB will still result in the phone charging.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] foxmeister:
Just out of interest, but why? Li-Ion batteries don't have a memory effect, so there's no problem with a little top-up charge here and there.

Regards,

Dave
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ArtieQ:
Just something I came up with, I always thought it hurt the battery by loading it like that even tho it's a Li-Ion, and I still believe it does.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phrphz:
I'm currently trying to get a completely clean orginal Froyo install on my phone. I tried to search here, but what I found doesn't fix my problems.

My Nexus One was on ERE27 when I got it (bought used). I unlocked and rooted it, flashed Amun's recovery 1.5.3 (later 1.7.0) and after trying Cyanogen 5.0.6 and installing the EPE54B radio I finally went to Enomther 1.8.1 and later 1.9.2.

Now I'm trying to get a completely stock Froyo on my phone.

I flashed an ERD79 stock image using the PASSIMG.zip method, figuring I'd then get the OTA update to FRF85B, maybe with an intermediary step via ERE27.

When I dial *#*#checkin#*#*, it just says "checkin succeeded", though, and doesn't provide an update.

Unfortunately, my original nandroid backup was lost in an sd-card screwup, so I can't go back to my original ERE27 system, either.

So I tried to update to ERE27 using the stock recovery and the update.zip from ERD79 to ERE27, but I only get the <!> sign and a green android, nothing like "apply update.zip" to choose. (I never used stock recovery, so I don't know how this is actually supposed to look like.)

I could do this using the custom recovery again, but with that I can't flash the original Froyo update. I couldn't find a stock recovery image for ERE27 anywhere, but the update ERD79->ERE27 contains stuff for the recovery partition, and I don't know how to get that updated correctly.

Any hints/links?

What puzzles me most is why I don't get OTA updates on stock ERD79. Any ideas on that?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jack_R1:
Stock ERD79 stopped giving updates a couple of weeks before Froyo started.

Head over to Developers section, download stock FRF85B build for flashing on non-stock recoveries, from Lox's thread. Flash it and you're set.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phrphz:
Ah, ok, so that's why I don't get updates. Thanks.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] sebxd:
Hi guys,

I managed to create a bootscreen for the sensehero (and I think for the 1.5 roms too)

Please feedback :) ...

Thanks!

If you have some question, ask it :)

Thanks to Stickman for his first pic and for his rom :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] rainbow2112:
Look very nice.. but.. How do I install?

work also eclair 2.1 ufficial-root rom?

Tanks in advance..
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] Deleted member 2500726:
You flash it from recovery and it anly works for 1.5 ROMs and SenseHero B5.x
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] rainbow2112:
:( So not good for my rom eclair 2.1 ufficial-root?? :mad:
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] sebxd:
Yes I'm sorry about that... But if I have the time, I will try to make on for other roms... Just post me a link in order to see your rom please and I will try but be patient I'm in an exam periode..
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oretet:
On my 2.1 firmware i could press volume down until a vibrate sign appears. When i press again the no sound no vibrate modus was selected.

Now in FROYO 85B i no longer have this option i can go to the vibrate modus but no longer to the real silent modus....

Anyone an idea?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mokurex:
Yep, you can't do it now. Get a 'toggle to silent' widget. =)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oretet:
Hmm, yeah i found the widgets, was just so happy with those settings...
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Midget010:
Hi everyone, I seemed to have found myself in a predicament.

I've been trying to install Kang-o-rama, but when I do, it gets stuck at the boot screen. This is not a problem itself, because last time I just restored a Nandroid backup and my phone would be back to normal. However, I have just tried to restore my backup, and it says:

"Error: run 'nandroid-mobile.sh restore' via adb!"

I'm not sure why it is saying this or if there is anyway to fix it. I did rename the Nandroid backup folder if that makes a difference?

Thanks in advance, hope you can help :)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Midget010:
Never mind everyone, it seems that it doesn't like spaces in the nandroid folder names. I renamed them with underscores and it worked just fine.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] MvP77:
http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/07...roid-mail-messenger-and-search-now-available/
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] EdwardUong:
Yes! Just about time. I've been waiting for this apps for so long.

Thanks for noticing :D
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] Autinhyeu:
Wowww... yahoo messenger on android... android No1 :x installed it & testing...

Thanks!
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] cdw9800:
long over due thanks for the post downloading now
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] britoso:
anyone know how to add your live messenger ID? Do you need to use the PC version for this?
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] joshuas_79:
+1 I want to know it too
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] uoY_redruM:
I'll be installing this shortly to check it out and see how it works..

I figured they'd be working on this when I saw Yahoo! News pop up on the Market as well.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] DarkDvr:
Seriously? yahoo?

Who in the world would use yahoo when there's gmail?

Yuck.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] Old MuckenMire:
Yeah I used this app when I was on Blackberry and it's one of the reason I went Android...Yahoo and Yahoo messenger suck. I don't even think any of my friends use it anymore.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] SubyWill:
i mostly use gmail, but i still have my old yahoo account. the yahoo email app is very nice though! i like it!
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] MvP77:
I have tons of friends who use yahoo and wont switch over to Gmail. A lot of them have android phones and still use yahoo for there main mail service. So having an official app is great for me and them. Not everyone love's gmail.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] Autinhyeu:
Yahoo messenger doesnt sent & receive fast as yahoo messenger version pc :-) hope the yahoo team can fix it in next version...

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[Nexus One Themes and Apps] leyvatron:
Looks good and works better than stock email app. Hopefully it doesn't drain my battery. Does anyone know what is the refresh rate?
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] diversificationied:
Too bad Yahoo doesn't give two ****s about their paying small business customers.

=/

leyvatro: It's push based, not polled based, there is no refresh rate.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] DarkDvr:
And you know why they won't switch over to yahoo? Cause yahoo charges a fee for pop3/imap access. Which is about as dumb as charging for sand in the desert. Otherwise they'd just set up gmail to grab mail from yahoo and they'd be good to go.

Preferring yahoo over gmail is like preferring old mechanic typewriters over PCs and printers.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] MvP77:
These are not "tech" people like most of us here. These are casual users who don't wanna start over with a new email address. They don't even know what pop3/imap is and really don't care to know. They just want a simple way to use there yahoo services on there phone.

I think sometimes we lose site that not every android user is like us. Matter of fact I would guess that people like us who know the true power of android and the real advantages gmail has over yahoo and other services are less than 5% of all android users.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] PhantomRampage:
Thanks for the post :D

Gonna check this out soon
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] cavemanturk:
still waiting for a proper non disconnecting windows live messenger client
[HD2 General] ..=neo=..:
Hi there,

I´ve got a problem with my HTC HD2 after flashing the original ROM T-Mobile:

"ruu_leo_tmo_de_1.72.111.4_radio_crc_signed_15.32.50.07u_2.07.51.22_2_ship"

Bootloader has been flashed with HSPL2 to "SPL 1.66.HSPL" to run task 29 before flashing the rom.

The problems after the rom-flash are:

- cant call or be called

- g-sensor doesnt work

- no audio playback at all

After powering the phone a gray screen appears, telling me the following:

flash type 5510BCAD

power reason 1

BOOTUP_W_PWR_KEY_PRESSED

After some seconds the phone continues to boot.

The phone shows the folowing data:

Bootloader:

PB81100 HX-BC

SPL-1.66.0000 XE

MicroP(LED) 0x05

MicroP(TOUCH) 0x40

Anyone knows of a solutions for this or is it a "warranty"-case?

Help would be really appreciated!

Kind regards

Martin
[HD2 General] Kalavere:
I have never come across this, but the first thing I would be inclined to do is a reflash, it may well have been a dodgy flash.
[HD2 General] ..=neo=..:
I have flashed the rom again, but I get the same errormessage.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] dunghnvn:
After root everything ok, but i have big problem can't download from market. Can some one help me ? Please

Thanks ( Sorry my English very bad )
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] dangerzau:
Do you get any error messages?

Have you tried with both wifi and 3g?

Have you setup your 3g settings after root?

Just need more info to go on.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] dunghnvn:
First Thanks for reply

Info : Now I knew why can't download from market ( just starting download......)

Because I installed SMART BAR. But I don't know with App Smart Bar Killed so I can't download from Market. Before Install Smart Bar everything ok. Can Someone help me ? Big Thanks
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] jurijo:
i wanna use my hero like an ipod, i have tons of mp3 and i was wondering if any of you knows a nice mp3 browser with album view like iphone coverflow... thanx!!!