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[Hero CDMA General] spiritcrusher33:
my first android phone..and love it....way easier to customize than windows mobile..and everything just works.. To me its a spiritual successor to the vogue.. my last fav.. outside of the dust problem..its been a perfect phone.. and with my seidio 3500 extended battery.. and leather htc case.. its even better..

The evo is nice...but too big..would rather have something around the 3.7 inch screen size.. I always get a extended battery.. and putting a 3500 on the evo would just be too much to carry..u know!!

Would be like when i had the the ppc-6700 and siedio 3200 mah batt. and snap on case and holster.. man that was like a beast.. people always asked wth is that on your belt.lol
[Hero CDMA General] rulyskull:
I can customize the bajebuse out of it
[Hero CDMA General] killerxx2:
Why i love my hero

1. Nice screen size

2. Quick with OC

3. First Android phone.

4. ....BADASS phone.
[Hero CDMA General] unCoRrUpTeD:
I thought the same thing until I saw

this

video and would consider it, but will just wait till Christmas when new phones will be released.

1. HTC Sense

2. First Smart Phone

3. First Android Phone

4. Customization

5. I can OC

6. Wireless Tether

7. Size
[Hero CDMA General] whoiswes:
This and this. Plus mine was free (after rebate) :D
[Hero CDMA General] gunnyman:
Wow not the way I expected this thread to go, but that's cool. My first post was a jab at Apple :D
[Hero CDMA General] subcypher:
I caught it. Well played.
[Hero CDMA General] amdme127:
It is hard to stay on task and bang Apple when we get to talk about how GREAT our Heroes are ;)
[Hero CDMA General] wiiguy5:
We've got awesome devs :)
[Hero CDMA General] markus_del_marko:
Agreed but it's still disappointing that most of them left. I was hoping there would be some big flaw with the evo so they would crawl back to the hero. ;)

The hero is a nice phone but lately ive been getting a bit bored with it.
[Hero CDMA General] ItsDon:
It surprises me every week with new things it can do. It runs SlingPlayer, It is my internet at my vacation home, it currently has Froyo on it. She's just a pretty girl that never says no to anything, don't we all want that?? :D
[Hero CDMA General] atoz350:
How many other phones can you customize to be the baddest phone around and carry your wishlist with you?

"Oh, man. My Hero can't do that...oh wait...let me check my SD card....*flash*.....Now it can.
[Hero CDMA General] DirtyShroomz:
I actually own it (to keep with the theme of the first post)
[Hero CDMA General] damiandarkwater:
*it's brought so many together

*it still has things to teach me about Android and Linux in general even after months of owning it
[Hero CDMA General] notasimpleway:
If only they had made it some color other than grey.... I want options like the iPhone. I want the option to hold it either hand... Oh wait...I can. What I like about it? The fact that no one knows what the Hero is. They always say "How do you like your Droid?" and assume I'm with Verizon. People think Android = Droid(Motorola Droid). I like the trackball. I like the phone because it's the perfect size. Not too small. Not too big. It's like the mom bear in Goldie Locks and the Three Bears.
[Hero CDMA General] microfire21:
I love my hero because...it makes people with non-true smartphones drool when they see my screen fire up with all these flashy eye candy Widgets and apps that don't lag nor crash constantly...people hunger for the abilities to mold and shape a true smart phone...they just don't know what it is like to have a Linux os that is truly open source to be molded and shaped anyway your twisted code takes it...they mourn that they are stuck with their closed source non-smarted phones...and doomed to keep within the bounds of their winmo or blackberry's faulty code lines.....I love my hero for it will always evolve into better faster and even more highly customized code for Linux knows no limits....good call on the thread header...needed this one lol....good night felllow xda'ers....keep frantically hitting that f5 key for the best of bleeding edge technology ever put into every line of code we can call our roms. XD
[Hero CDMA General] HeroMeng:
I like how my Hero can do almost anything... The UI can look like anything.... the app store isn't controlled by any corporation.... and how it's still working after I've been flashing it since October.
[Hero CDMA General] spiritcrusher33:
right on man.. I have never followed trends..or try to keep up with whats hip and cool etc.. I strive to be original whenever i can..and the hero lets me do that.. hell even windows mobile too.. my buddy has a iphone..his logic is..hey it works and works well.. etc.. but i told him..me personally would get bored quick..cause im used to being able to basicly change whatever i want whenever i want..etc.. And really not that hard to learn to theme. or code etc.. if your willing to put in the time to learn....
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Lukster:
I suppose Im right that there are more water indicators inside the phone.. the one under my battery is white but it seems right underneath the backsides lower hole above the usb port,(inside the little horshoe lloking hole in the middle) it looks like a pc. of wdi, and its pink.. will this void a warranty if so even though the one under the battery is white. Is this even a water damage indicator im seeing.

thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Lukster:
serious, anybody? bump
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] SDreamer:
It's on the battery I believe. It's the pink cross hatch pattern. That's all I've seen searching the web so far.
[Desire General] vanja:
Coming from iPhone (yeah, hate me for that, hee hee) I've noticed many little problems with built-in browser on Desire. Mainly to do with js. Login simply not working. Or cannot select things etc.

But one *big* problem is inability to load https pages. I get dialog box asking me if i want to accept invalid certificate after which "server terminated connection" or something like that.

Tried Dolphin HD and same problems (in fact, think it's the same engine).

Running Sparta v1.2 ROM, but had the same problem with Paul's MCR or stock non-rooted setup.

Do you guys have the same problem?
[Desire General] dnlgee:
Can't say I've had any of these problems on Froyo (Browser 2.2) as of yet, the certificate keeps popping up on Google but that's no biggie.
[Desire General] Aitese:
Nope, never had any of these issues on an unmodified Desire.
[Desire General] AndroHero:
its not ur desires fault if the website ur tying to visit has an invalid security certificate lol you can turn off the warning in the options
[Desire General] vanja:
No kidding?! Those problematic websites work just fine on desktops, iPhones or even other Android phones.

Argh, why bother even explaining? Some people are just too "smart" for us mortals (even though i have 2 degrees in cs)

Anyway, I will try Froyo and see if that *bug* is resolved on 2.2 browser.
[Desire General] AndroHero:
does your device have the correct date/time? if the date on ur device duznt match there ssl cert ur gunna get an invalid cert error
[Desire General] vanja:
Yes, it's a correct time/date... Don't know what is going on.
[Desire General] JohnSteveDoe:
Me neither, but I suspect it's your device. Mind posting some of those sites, so we can test them and figure out if it's a general problem, or one with your device?
[Desire General] vanja:
Sure.

Try

http://elf.foi.hr/ OR

https://www.isvu.hr/studomat/aplikacija/
[Desire General] JohnSteveDoe:
Work just fine, both on PC and phone.

Running MCR r18 (2.2)
[Desire General] jstegeman:
both work just fine for me too
[Desire General] jimlad:
first site loaded fine on desire very fast.

second site gave security warning on Desire, it's certificate ran out 30th May, I don't normally get those, my pc loaded it no problem.
[Desire General] MasDroid:
Tried it in Pays BS v2.0.

The first link loads fine on both (stock and dolphin hd) browsers, however, i also receive the certificate warning and fails to load the secure https site using both browsers. It shows that the certificate does expire on the 30th of May, but in the year 2020.
[Desire General] JohnSteveDoe:
Tried wiping all browser data/cache from Applications?
[Desire General] MasDroid:
I had tried that too, made no difference.
[Desire General] th3:
Same here. First site loads and logs on very fast using Chrome, Dolphin HD or XScope. Second one gives the same issue on all three.

T-mobile, stock.

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- Sent via my HTC Desire -
[Desire General] vanja:
Hummm... I'm afraid you'll have to log on to be able to get to the https part.

I can open it on Desire just fine. But when I try to log in, all goes bad...
[Desire General] mr.vandalay:
hello there... maybe this issue is mobile network related... i'm on the same network (vip.hr) and can't access your second https site, but http://elf.foi.hr/ works fine...

on https i get "The server failed to communicate. Try again later"
[Desire General] vanja:
Thank you guys for the feedback. After messing around with it, it is definitely simply 2.1 browser as it works just fine on Froyo.... Both on mobile data and wifi (whereas on 2.1 it doesn't work both on mobile and wifi) so doubt it is the network related issue.

These bugs and problems make me want to go to back to iPhone :(
[Desire General] Aitese:
So it works on FroYo...which I'm assuming you now have running...yet the bug in the previous version of the OS is making you want to go back to iPhone...despite you not running said version anymore?

Makes perfect sense. It's not like the iPhone has any show stopping bug of it's own or anything...:rolleyes:
[Click General] Dufresne6:
Hy!

My problem is that I can't connect to my office router which has a HiddenSSID. I know it's a known defect of the Android 1.x OS. I1ve found this program on androlib: HiddenSSID Enabler as a solution for this problem but this program can't be installed on Tattoo I thnik bevause of the resolution.

So any help or suggestion that can help me?

Thank You!
[Click General] francians:
WeFi should works fine..
[Click General] Dufresne6:
Wifi is working fine if the router's ssid is not hidden but if it's then I should add a new network which has the name of the router with the hiddenSSID. I've made it and the new network of course appears on the list but the Tattoo doesn't connect to automatically and there is no option to connect to that network because in the popup menu there is onlí one option and that's the "forget network".

So wifi works fine but not with hiddenSSID networks.
[Click General] francians:
WeFi is a free software.. try with it
[Click General] Dufresne6:
Ohh I see i don't know wefi is the name of the software:) I'll try it thank you.
[Click General] petreski:
In wifi's settings set channel to 14 channels to scan.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] loveensawlani:
Hi can ne one tell me how to update nexusone froyo frf50 to frf83
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ayman07:
word has it you can just install the small 1.8mb update that was leaked out on top of the your current build assuming your running a stock installation with root or something of that sort. if are using another ROM, shame on u for not putting in more detail in the post. how u do expect to get help?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evenheroesfall:
Head to AndroidSPIN

Hey I did a post on AndroidSPIN that can help you out with that. Full update instructions.

http://androidspin.com/2010/06/23/how-to-get-android-2-2-build-frf83-from-any-stock-build/
[EVO 4G General] TheBiles:
First off, I would just like to state that I did not use any sort of task-killer or ever even kill any apps that were already running. The ONLY app that I used to affect my battery life was Autostarts. This is not a task-killer, because it does not run in the background and kill apps that are already running. It simply changes WHEN apps are allowed to start by changing the permission on them. You can even use it to disable when system apps are allowed to run. The interface is extremely simple: It lists the conditionals for when apps start themselves typically (i.e. text received, screen turned off) and shows you all of the apps set to start at those times. You can then disable all of the apps you want.

I was able to get the best battery life that I had ever gotten using this app and the latest DamageControl 3.2 ROM. After over 14 hours of pretty moderate use I had 44% remaining. To me, that is the best battery life I have gotten on any smartphone (average discharge rate of 3.86%/hour compared with 5.0%/hour on the BlackBerry Tour, which had the second-best battery life). The discharge rate was also fairly constant. It didn't randomly burn like crazy any time I used the phone. I had actually been using the Fresh Evo .3 ROM before this, but I was getting awake time issues. Even when I would close all of the apps that started on boot something would still keep the phone awake (I'm guessing something that re-started itself all the time). I was able to clearly monitor the battery life using SystemPanel App. I installed DC and Autostarts Wednesday afternoon. You can see the results for yourself below. The top is a battery level, the middle is awake time, and the bottom is CPU activity.

On these last two pics, take a look at the CPU usage and how I had to charge Fresh throughout the day.
[EVO 4G General] acrh2:
Very nice, but you need to tell us which changes you made in autostarts, and whether you disabled mobile data always on.

Thanks.
[EVO 4G General] scriptx:
agreed! this would be very helpful, as many of us are playing trial-and-error ;)
[EVO 4G General] TheBiles:
I'm actually still playing with Autostarts myself, but I will post screens as soon as I get home. I didn't use any other battery saving techniques except keeping the LCD on 25% brightness. Data always on and GPS on.

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[EVO 4G General] qu1nn:
good objective evidence.

more people should post this way.

qu1nn
[EVO 4G General] Beknatok:
Mmm, thanks for sharing. This is very encouraging. I've been lazy and hadn't gotten around to rooting/tossing on a Custom ROM yet, but I may finally set aside an hour or two this weekend to do it!
[EVO 4G General] cjrivera04:
Is this only for rooted phones? Thanks.
[EVO 4G General] driguez:
Just got it, I'm fully rooted, and it says I need root access, super user pops up and I allow it, I try to disable start up items, it then says I need root access, I emailed the dev, will see
[EVO 4G General] TheBiles:
The custom ROM requires root, and you need root for Autostarts to disable some apps.

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[EVO 4G General] driguez:
As i said, i am fully rooted. Running DC's ROM, havnt had any issues w any other root requiring apps.
[EVO 4G General] ViViDboarder:
Wow. I really need to root and check out these roms. I just wanted to get a feel for the phone first. Native Android is WAY better than native iOS! I couldn't wait to jailbreak my iPhone and I'm mostly content with my EVO.
[EVO 4G General] itmustbejj:
I also would really like to see some of your settings for this, I just bought the app and am researching some good settings.

Also is it common to see multiple instances of an app (under after startup I have messages x3, media storage x2, handcent x 2). Also I notice I have some things from my banned list in DC rom listed in my startup (ie flickr). Is this normal?
[EVO 4G General] driguez:
Is yours working ok? Noticed you are using DC. Mines not letting me mke any changes.
[EVO 4G General] trajin:
have anybody had this problem where in the battery history where its says running its always at 100% i cant figure out whats causing this any idea would be appreciated
[EVO 4G General] Vandam500:
You haven't rooted yet!! You are missing on all the awesome ROMs available:D
[EVO 4G General] sweteg:
If you click info on the repetitive ones, it's something different. Other than that, it's trial and error. Since it only affect autostarts, disabling it out shouldn't hurt. I did it on a bunch and restarted and everything is fine.

Thanks for the guide biles. I was getting pretty solid battery life but usually after 26 hours idle with 6 hours uptime, I'm at 15% and I noticed you're about 45%. Gonna test out this autostarts. Before I was using startup cleaner but it's a very basic program.
[EVO 4G General] itmustbejj:
If I use handcent, it would probaly be safe to disable messages, right?
[EVO 4G General] sweteg:
I haven't figured that out yet. I don't think you can due to handcent feeding off messages. When you install handcent, it re-routes message app to its program. That's why you can't do a straight up uninstall of message app and use handcent as the replacement.

You can give it a try and disable messages. If handcent doesn't work, just re enable it in autostarts and reboot.
[EVO 4G General] epphllps:
My card keeps declining my purchase of Autostarts?! What the heck... I just made another $0.99 purchase and it worked fine. I'm thinking maybe because it's a foreign purchase. Has anyone ever had this problem?
[EVO 4G General] itmustbejj:
Same thing happened to me, while it is "authorizing the purchase" on your phone, log into google checkout on your pc that worked for me. also try opening the google talk app on your phone, as the authorization is tied to that.
[EVO 4G General] driguez:
Well i uninstalled (trying to see if that would get it to work) and tried to install w no luck, it didn't decline though.
[EVO 4G General] epphllps:
Still won't work, but I definitely just got a call to confirm my recent activity :( Told me I have to call customer service to find out why, not a task I feel like doing right now. A purchase made after Autostarts worked so it must be the Germany location raising a flag. Well dang...

Edit: I cancelled install, waited a minute or two and when I was typing this post it installed. How odd.
[EVO 4G General] itmustbejj:
probably just homeland security probing your .99 foreign transaction to make sure you aren't funding terrorism lol
[EVO 4G General] itmustbejj:
I can confirm this works, this brought my wakeups from idle per second down to about 55-60 from 95-100 just from editing the "after startup" section a bit. Still a good amount more optimizing I could do....

Thanks Biles
[EVO 4G General] TheBiles:
Ok, some Autostarts settings!

Here is my whole "After Startup" section. It is by far the largest section, so it was my main focus. All of the other sections were pretty simple (i.e. there would be like 3 apps available, and one or two are totally unreleated so they could be disabled).

As you can see, I still have a lot of system things unchecked. I'm not entirely sure about disabling things like Messges, Plugin Manager, and Media Uploader, so if anyone trys them out please let us know. My general rule of thumb for disabling things: Does it have anything to do with the associated trigger (why would I need DocsToGo to start when I turn my phone on?)? Will it affect my system if I disable this (remember, you can always manually enable things since this only affects auto-starting and it will never kill apps)?
[EVO 4G General] driguez:
I don't fckng get it, im fully rooted, using DC 3.2, reinstalled it and still no go, can't make any changes. *sigh*
[EVO 4G General] TheBiles:
What's the problem? Are you getting an error or will nothing just happen when you select "Disable?"
[EVO 4G General] driguez:
This is what i get

Error

Unable to change state of selected component. Most likely your device does not hve root access.

Im more than 100% sure im fully rooted.
[EVO 4G General] itmustbejj:
Biles, you still get your weather synced disabling HTC weather sync provider? Also why don't you disable titanium and rom manager?

Do you still get your calendar synced while disabling calendar after startup?
[EVO 4G General] TheBiles:
I use Weather & Toggle Widgets (on LauncherPro) for my weather, so the HTC weather doesn't matter. I don't know about the calendar, since it hasn't been updated in a while. If I do update it, I could always quickly open it to sync, but it was the root of a lot of awake time issues before. And as for Titanium and ROM Manager... They're now disabled. :D

Even I forget that this isn't a KILLER; it's just a stopper!
[EVO 4G General] fallentimm:
Disable rotation.you will be surprised how much battery you save
[EVO 4G General] itmustbejj:
I use beautiful widgets so I guess I could disable the htc weather sync too....
[EVO 4G General] TheBiles:
Hmm. For some reason I had my calendar auto-start after my last reboot and send me straight to 100% awake time. I ended it right away with SystemPanel, but it definitely was what was causing the issue. Trying to figure out what exactly still starts at boot right now.
[EVO 4G General] driguez:
Alright ended up clearing cache n dalvik n reflashing, its working now.
[EVO 4G General] TheBiles:
Good to hear! I'm at just over 12 hours today, and I'm currently at 40% remaining. However, I spent about 20 minutes in recovery backing up and restoring, so that was just a big battery drain.
[EVO 4G General] ajftl:
im using . fresh .2 rooted(no nand yet) and works
[EVO 4G General] ajftl:
rotation is fun.. :)
[EVO 4G General] itmustbejj:
not to JIT....
[EVO 4G General] driguez:
Yea I had to get it to work.... One thing i noticed, disabled a lot of things from start up and it does help w start up speed. Will see about batt but should help.
[EVO 4G General] IceCreaMan:
ill try this out
[EVO 4G General] TheBiles:
Today's results: 28% remaining after 14 hours. A TON of battery was used while I was in recovery, as you can see in the below image. I also had slightly higher CPU activity, but it didn't seem to affect it much.
[EVO 4G General] mpa4712:
There's a section in Autostarts for Widgets. From the looks of that section, it makes it seem like every widget updates. The section is aptly named 'Widgets Updating'. I am wondering if that really means all those widgets are actively updating even if they are not actually on any screen.. I have heard reports of people who downloaded widgets, never used them, yet had battery usage by them. I may try disabling every widget that I do not actively use.

There is also another section that refers to SIM operations. I have disabled all of those. I'll see how that goes.

I don't have any issues with battery life at the moment, however. I am just trying to see if I can get to the 160 hrs of standby time that the Evo used to be advertised with. I'm hoping this application + Froyo will help out.

Here's where I currently stand with my battery:
[EVO 4G General] Jykinturah:
Holy WHAt!? 67 HOURS???

OP, thanks for the info, I am DEFINITELY trying these out. Autostarts is awesome, speeds up my boot, but I haven't had it long enough to see whether it makes a difference in my battery life. I'm charging it tonight then leaving it unplugged all day tomorrow.
[EVO 4G General] nebenezer:
How have I never heard system panel before? Excellent app!

Thanks for the info, great stuff!

It absolutely blows me away that HTC makes such awesome devices, puts an amazing OS in them and releases them full of gunk and crapware. Remembering the same feeling I had a month after I got my hero I'm starting to see these devices more like pocket computers, complete with their own superfluous proprietary handicaps just like the big machines. I guess its kind of cool, in a way. The first thing I do with a new pc is format and reinstall the OS... kind of speaks to the progress in mobile electronics that the experience is becoming more like a computer including the headaches...

The up side is we CAN learn about these devices and make them awesome :D

I die a little inside every time someone I love buys an iFone.
[EVO 4G General] fallentimm:
Disabling rotation and setting damageless rom dconfig to battery saver and playing with auto stats Im over a day of usage without charge. Damage has the best roms by far those guys need to work for htc