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[EVO 4G General] stroths:
You have to look at the network first and then the phone. If Sprint has bad coverage and Verizon is good then you should switch. Luckily dfw has great sprint coverage

Sent from my. Evo 4g using Tapatalk
[EVO 4G General] trukenx:
re coverage and jumping ship

Maybe I am wrong but doesn't sprint roam on verizon towers, if coverage is the reason jump ship stop by at the developers side there is a PRL hack to allow your EVO to solely find the verizon towers, it seams to be faster and more bars but the response time is much slower which on a mobile device makes a huge difference everything you do. the evo is a great device i really did not and still do not see any of the 30 fps cap and gpu fault till i stopped looking solely on the developers side, every game i play runs smoothly, live wallpapers run great, hd movies converted looks phenomenal and runs smoothly. i thought there where hardware limitation causing scrolling jerkiness until i install ADW and then Advanced launcher pro and it scrolled like butter. software optimizations would come.

And about the slight tint on the LCD for espon 002 screens emogamer explained it the best. its like any other lcd t.v or monitor, its like setting you t.v to cool pic/sports mode on representing the 002 and warm/movie mode representing the 003, everyone knows if you wanna use you lcd tv as a monitor, you set it on cool mode, you cold see the txt better that way and its more vibrant, same for monitors. try it open the web page showing both screens side to side with some text below switch from warm to cool mode on your lcd or monitor it pretty much the same effect, white better represented in cool mode but blacks are richer in warm mode there is also a slight tint on the cool mode but the text come out looking more defined. this is a mobile device just enjoy it for the possibilities the hardware has not even been pushed to the max, developers are still finding stuff in the code.
[EVO 4G General] sfox8:
QFA

I'm sticking with my EVO. The Droid X has a nice processor and GPU but everything else, the EVO pretty much has it beat in MY opinion. Some may like the hardware buttons more but, I have yet to have any problems with the EVO's buttons. On top of that the Droid X is pretty ugly. The EVO looks beautiful and elegant. No front facing camera on the DX (and believe it or not, I use it quite a bit more than I originally thought I would). And since there is no longer a 30fps cap or any touch lag on the EVO, there's absolutely no reason for me to switch because everything else works flawlessly for me.

I have no doubt the Droid X will be extremely popular on Verizon though. It's definitely a good phone, but for me, the EVO has it beat.
[EVO 4G General] svinyard:
EVO

No way I could ever change. I've had ATT, Verizon and Sprint. I liked Verizon's network for sure, however Sprints seems to have improved vastly over the last two years. It used to drop calls all the time. My brother had to leave Verizon because of dead spots at his office.

In the end, if you are REALLY using your EVO or Droid...wow Verizon is so much more expensive. The Sprint Everything plan is just dirty cheap if you need all that stuff and I do.

Also, I really don't care for the Droid form factor. I'm very surprised by the size of the EVO considering its big screen. Look at how much of the iPhone is used by the screen vs the casing and everything, its tragic and the new Droid is a bit of step away from the EVO's great form. Like the Droid a lot, would easily buy it but the EVO does everything + what the Droid does at a much smaller price point. Any of the pain points of the EVO will be resolved soon enough. It's a phenomenal phone, like the Droid is i'm sure...however it will have its issues as well. I live in Portland so the Droid is a lot weaker of a platform than Sprints with the 4g. Sure I don't use it all the time, but when you do...wow its a sick feature for tethering to your laptop. Of course I dont pay Sprints 30$ price for it either.

EVO
[EVO 4G General] mrmomoman:
I agree. I have gotten but incredible service from Sprint and this is from a guy who swore off sprint years ago after a bad experience. Even the manager at RS who reserved a phone for me to come in the AM called me in the AM to ask if I was still coming in. And now with a little light leak issue she has put me on the list for a new phone when they come in even after the 30 days. If more and more reps either through RS, Wally World, Sprint and Resellers were like that then the experience would make the brand(Sprint) that much more attractive. In a world with so much competition the only thing that can stand out now more than ever is Customer Service.

Buy a phone that best suits your Cell networks but there is no need to tell everyone that you can't stand the EVO because your service sucks in your area. Okay it sucks - should Sprint have put a new tower up for you? Come on people - SERIOUSLY?

I just installed the EVOX ROM and its visually a little more appealing then Froyo itself. So the Droid X has a nice keyboard layout and a few extra touches that I like and hopefully a port to Froyo soon to make it not FC.

The EVO in less than 30 days has come a LONG way and it will only continue to get better with the incredible DEV's this place has. I am sure there will be love given to the DROID X community as well.

It's all good...
[EVO 4G General] martijua:
I'm tying my shoes right now.

Just thought I'd jump on the useless post band wagon.
[EVO 4G General] oOflyeyesOo:
I don't udnerstand why you just didn't do the little PRL hack to use verizon's towers by default, if sprints coverage was so bad...

I know quite a few people in Miami that have sprint, they don't seem to be having any problems.
[EVO 4G General] SPENONE:
K. Have fun, bye.
[EVO 4G General] SPENONE:
Im in ft lauderdale / miami.....i have great coverage.
[EVO 4G General] ap3604:
You always choose your carrier FIRST... then pick the best phone option they have. If Verizon is your best coverage by all means go with the DroidX. It is so similar to the Evo that your pretty much splitting hairs over which phone is "better".

Everyone out there seems to have backwards thinking by purchasing a cool phone first (iPhone, Evo, etc) and later finding out the network coverage is terrible...
[EVO 4G General] synplex:
Im in Doral , FL. Spotty coverage
[EVO 4G General] synplex:
There coverage map show "great" coverage in my area, but sure enough about 1000 ft all around my house is a complete dead zone.I get 0-1 bars outside. I didnt know this until I brought my Evo and came home. Even sprint tech told me that I should probably go to another carrier since there are no new tower being built in my area. :(

Alos I get 20% off my bill at Sprint, but 25% off Verizon Bill.

I'll end up pay about $5 more a month.

I dont really wanna switch but after seeing my friend droid getting 5 bars where I have 1 and also seeing an upgraded Evo like phone on Verizon, why shouldnt I switch?

My 30 days are up in 6 days.... I'm still thinking about it. :confused:

... buit thanks for everyones input. You guys are really making me wanna stay put :rolleyes:
[EVO 4G General] synplex:
Your complete right.
[EVO 4G General] myn:
A phone is only as good as the community that surrounds it.

Litterly overnight the EVO forums on XDA have grown to being the number 1 section. Surpassing both the G1 and Nexus One.

In less then a month we've seen leaps and strides including but not limited to FPS fixes and wireless N enablement.

I will always choose hardware with the biggest community, and with that said I will keep my EVO.
[EVO 4G General] Beejis:
Amen to that, the amount of support this phone is getting is enough for me to stay with this big beauty. This phone is sexy and will only get better with time (and the source code of course).

Sent from HTC Evo 4g
[EVO 4G General] pinkxpinkii:
Droid X is ugly. Why go from Sense UI to the Blur. I'm happy with Sprint and the Evo. Getting a signal up in the mountainsq was amazing. Evo is nicer to look at. :-)

From the HTC Evo!!
[EVO 4G General] bluehaze:
Miami/FT Lauderdale here, coverage is great.
[EVO 4G General] :
Yes I am getting a Droid X and going to sell the EVO... why?

#1 Much better graphics card

#2 Faster processor, more internal memory.

#3 Unlikely to be plagued with bugs.

#4 Physical buttons on it

#5 No 30fps cap.

People always say there is a minor difference between these two phones, it's a huge difference. The graphics card in the Droid X is MILES better.
[EVO 4G General] Kshawn:
^What happens a week later when something with better specs comes out? Oh dear
[EVO 4G General] synplex:
Amen to that!

Remember guys I not Getting Reception in my area! Thats a big enough reason to leave sprint.

Also Sprint is $80 a month and Verizon is $82 a month.
[EVO 4G General] :
This is like going from an intel intergrated gpu to a dedicated gpu, huge performance difference. Games lag on the EVO, I am playing NOVA and it lags... not fun. The Droid X gets 60fps on benchmarks where I saw the Evo get around 10 on a video.

I am sure a gpu will come out that's better, but the EVO can't play current games. The Droid X can, and that matters to me a lot.
[EVO 4G General] Kshawn:
^Fair enough jiggs.

OP, didn't you know you had bad sprint reception before getting the device?
[EVO 4G General] :
Yeah I was going to mention that, but I read in a post he said in the map it said there was coverage in his area... but it was really sketchy.

Oh yeah one thing I do like about the Evo is Sprint. Verizon's prices are crazy high, and I am confused whether there is a 5gb cap on the Droid X. I see someplaces say unlimited and others say 5gigs. 5 gigs is like really little. Though Verizon does on average have better coverage.
[EVO 4G General] jayv1717:
i get 2200 down and 700 up in miami..its the best
[EVO 4G General] jayv1717:
only point u made was the graphics..your not gonna play graphic challenging games on android so big whoop..evo with uncapped fps can play any game out so ain't much to do with all that graphic power..have fun paying an arm and a leg with verizon
[EVO 4G General] synplex:
No didn't. No one with sprint has been to my new house. Everyone I know has ATT or TMo. Also I had sprint 2 years ago in another part of Miami about 10 miles east from here and the service was great there. I was hoping it would great here in doral. I guess that's why they give you 30 days to test it out.

The real question is: WIll all my Apps/Games I brought for my Evo work on the Droid X. Its switching form 800x480 to 854x480, will they stretch?

Anyone know?
[EVO 4G General] jayv1717:
How do you figure 82$???
[EVO 4G General] synplex:
Where in miami are you getting that!?

I testing so many area around here and max i got with speed test app is 1.4 down and 1.0 up.
[EVO 4G General] jayv1717:
Im not too far from the american airlines arena..but i work in north miami beach and pretty much every where i go i get great speed..although it drops too 2 bars at the court house:)...but i still got 1200 down and 400 up..i play with the speed test everywhere i go..lol
[EVO 4G General] swornenemy:
Lol at 2am sprint 3g rocks!
[EVO 4G General] synplex:
I get 21 % off of data and 25% off voice on verzion and 21% off of Sprint Everything plans.

At verzion I'll be getting the $60 900 mins Voice only with Pick 5 (if I add my gf and work to that I really only used 500min a month;)) I'll add $5 for 250 text Msg (I mainly used Google talk to text and I used emails for MMS) and $30 for Unlimited data(hopefully not 5gb capped).

$45 ($60-25%)

$5

+ $23.7 ($30-21%) =

73.7 + about 10 tax and fees =

Total Verzion bill: $83.70

Verizon isn't that much more. Would you switch if they had better service in your area and didnt cost more??
[EVO 4G General] synplex:
Wow something must be up with my phone cause I've tested speeds at almost all the areas you mention and I get half of that speed. :confused:
[EVO 4G General] jayv1717:
yea true..see i contemplated switching too but i wouldn't get discounts with verizon like i do with sprint my sprint bill is 77.86 and with verizon i'd spend atleast 90$ plus taxes and fees
[EVO 4G General] jayv1717:
Idk if having the latest radio is helping that but did you flash it and see if there was a difference?
[EVO 4G General] ap3604:
BWAAAAAAAhahahahhahaAHHAHAHhahah

Man you made me laugh so hard there jiggly :D

Keep dreamin there brotha... EVERY phone has bugs :rolleyes:
[EVO 4G General] willy900wonka:
Trying to find the nearest analogy with out stepping on Schaumburg, IL folks. Would I trade a vette in for a mac truck, cause it has a larger motor, or maybe more room under the hood?

The performance of the evo and carrier is based on it the ability to change course. Locked boot blocks, fixed kbs, inability to provide unique customer solutions. Nope, been there.
[EVO 4G General] :
No ****?

Seriously no ****.

I have a Droid it has almost 0 issues, the EVO has a lot of problems. The glue for holding the screen on mine is becoming loose. Grounding issues? 30fps crap? I hate HTC as a company now. They deliberately ruined their phone(fps cap). I see nothing wrong with the Droid X other than the locked boot loader. Of course I don't own it. Also no need to put big letters, it just makes you look like a douche bag.
[EVO 4G General] :
Why do you say that? Go to Gameloft's website. There is a huge category of good games there. Assassins Creed 2, Hawx, Nova, etc.

(PS Verizon's cost for my plan is only 10$ more. I don't text(I use xfire on my phone), and I hardly call.) And about 4g, it's not in my area, and likely never will be.
[EVO 4G General] jayv1717:
I know what you mean I have all those game and so far they all play fine with the second fps fix itz alot smoother and when it getz completely fixed they will run fine..i gues my point is the evo can play all those games uncapped..and with froyo not to mention overclocks..but I hear all your points I was lookin into the droid x too but Im good for now..or atleast until the end of the year when dual cores start rolling out..htc did really mess it up

Sent from my Htc Evo 4g
[EVO 4G General] Aridon:
If they get the boot loader unlocked I'll probably get one. Thing I'm concerned about is lack of dev support for the device. Fortunately the evo will tide me over until that happens our the next best thing comes out.
[EVO 4G General] driguez:
So, what's the point of this thread again? You want opinions? Not likely, you are attacking HTC on an HTC site. Talk crap about sprint? You are complaining to the wrong crowd, pick up your phone and speak to a rep about it. At this point you are coming across very trollish. Btw if you are not happy w sprints service just return your phone and chose another carrier, its as simple as that.
[EVO 4G General] itmustbejj:
I posted this in another thread buts its very relevant here.

Here is some good reading from a very informed person regarding this whole droidx vs evo specfest

http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-4g/105351-htc-releasing-firmware-update-30fps-cap-lets-more-proactive-2.html#post1016816

http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-4g/109920-our-beloved-evo-beats-droid-x-video.html#post1019942

His two main points are:

1. The Droid X does not have a separate GPU - its PowerVR SGX530 GPU is part of the SoC (system on chip) architecture.

The EVO does not lack a GPU - its AMD Z430 GPU is part of the SoC.

2. Benchmarks are irrelevent and inaccurate and most ppl don't even know what they measure (especially tech reviewers). Read his posts, they are a.good read.
[EVO 4G General] synplex:
No, I'm definitely not trolling. I had legitimate questions in my OP. I switching to a Droid X, I know not everyone agrees it a good jump, but I have to. I'm not here to complain. I'm here to learn from the community by hearing things like Hacking my PRL, updating my radio and waiting for the firmware update. These are the things that are making second guess my switch. I'm getting exactly the info I needed (kinda) out of this Messy thread.

I still do have One unanswered question which is: Will the different resolution effect my evo apps to work on my a droid x. Apps like 3D gallery,NOVA,Zenonia,Vignette, etc.

Evo: 800x480

Droid X: 854x480
[EVO 4G General] jayv1717:
They should all work just fine on the droid x

Sent from my Htc Evo 4g
[EVO 4G General] engagedtosmile:
Hahaha. This.
[EVO 4G General] swaze:
This makes me laugh when I read it. Please be sure to come back and post your experiance once you get it. Because you obviously live in a dream world to think the "perfect" phone exists without any issues. LOL, oh and sorry to tell you but I put my EVO against my neighbors X this weekend (he bought it off ebay) and you can't tell much difference in much of anything. My browser was faster than his, he opened apps a bit quicker than mine (1/2 a second difference), my youtube played faster than his (signal related I assume), and his games seemed better on his. Overall it was a wash....Except when I turned on 4G, and then everything internet wise, and streaming wise I was alot faster with.
[EVO 4G General] cbaty08:
I'd be curious to see when froyo comes to the X how it will perform to others....

And those calling the X ugly.. how? I don't see what is really ugly about it... its a screen with 4 small buttons... pretty minimalistic design... What would you change cosmetically??

I think the X looks like an awesome phone... the evo is sick too... just sayin..
[EVO 4G General] weezer562:
Basically do as you must. I don't see the reason to post this at all. Its really not relevant information. I have had sprint over 10 years now no issues where I live have never had issues dealing with issues or customer service. I don't judge carriers by others opinions but rather what I have experienced, and I'm not planning a change anytime soon.
[EVO 4G General] engagedtosmile:
The GPU isn't miles better. People are just misinformed.

The battery is the same size.

The camera has much more lag when taking photos and from what I have seen is that the photos are very dark and grainy compared to the Evo.

Locked bootloader + very small dev community is a huge negative.

It is only EVDO capable, Verizon Wireless has already said they are announcing LTE this year. And when they do they will be bringing out the data caps similiar to ATT.

But yeah, the Droid X is a good phone...
[EVO 4G General] :
Cry more plz.

Go run any 3d benchmark... hell even cpu benchmark. Go make a video comparison between them, I want to see if you're just shoving stuff out of your ass. Also 4g is not in my area, so you can take that out of the factor, hell it's not in most of the US. Also I never said that it won't have issues, I never said that. I said the EVO is full of them. I am betting money the Droid X will have less issues.

I play games on my phone, I open 3d interactive stuff, the EVO is bad at it. I am not saying the EVO is a bad phone, I love it, it's just that the Droid X is better, a lot better.

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If you don't do anything intensive on your phone, go buy an iPhone.
[EVO 4G General] ramiss:
EDIT: Sry, I just posted in the wrong thread. Oh well. If your considering the new Galaxy then this applies to you.

Ok, but here is the deal...every Samsung device I have owned so far (i730, i760 and Moment) did NOT support multiple key presses. I have read about other Samsung devices having the same issue and this seems to be a theme with them.

Why is this important?...Well the Graphics may be great on this new phone, but try playing a game that uses 3D and only hitting one key at a time!

The Moment didn't support multiple touch screen presses either.

Just my $0.02c
[EVO 4G General] engagedtosmile:
How is it better besides software limitations that can and will be overcome? While the Droid X won't be able to do since you're at the mercy of Motorola. (Last I heard Milestone users are STILL waiting for a fix from Motorola concerning an issue with the alarm clock not working. What a joke.)

If you want a locked down phone, buy an iPhone.

Also, if you're so concerned about 3D rendering. Why not get a Samsung Epic 4G? The Hummingbird is truly faster than both of these phones.
[EVO 4G General] synplex:
I can barely wait til july 15 let alone a couple months for the epic... also I still have reception issues with sprint in my area. I've never say sprint sucks or have dead zones all over... its just some freak problem in my area.

BTW I got a verzion droid til the droid x comes out and I'm getting 4 bars on my droid where Im getting 1-2 bars on my evo on my block.
[EVO 4G Accessories] ocelot4ark:
Okay, one of the things I know I'm going to miss from my fanboy days is my iHome ip9 alarm clock dock. It's the best alarm I've ever had and I really love waking up to playlists and what-not. I WOULD just keep it and use the line-in to wake up to, but it only allows wake from iphone, radio, or buzzer.

Does anyone know of any alarm clocks that allow you to wakeup from a line-in connection? I'm guessing there will never be a dedicated EVO alarm dock, but something that'll at least play my songs would be nice.

Thanks for the help.
[EVO 4G Accessories] topdnbass:
dood kickstand much?

3.5 milli output to a compatible stereo sys. and your set.
[EVO 4G Accessories] sgtcody:
I agree.. buy Appalarm and use whatever program you like as an alarm.
[Android Apps and Games] qq67:
I thought if I sync my Streak with Outlook use the Dell pc suite my google contacts will automaticaly syncronised by Android. I have press manual sync and after the sync proces done on android I cant see any of my conctact in my google account those comes from outlook throug Dell pc suite. What is the solution to keep sync these 3 contacts?

I just wanted to check the google account info I entered but I cant find on streak this info. What if I want to modify or change?

Is there any way to search in my contact except to scroll and find by eye?

Where can I find those outlook notes which sync by dell pc suite?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] justPat:
Hello,

im using the Music Player from the Touch Flo 3D that is installed at the normal wm 6.5 (o2) Rom. My Problem is that the Music Player Read All Folders for the music, so that i have my ring tones to in my music libary.

my normal musik is in an Folder "Musik" at the storage card.

is ist possible to set the music player that hes only looking in my Music Folder for Music and ignore all the other folders?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Doo Doo:
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[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] 42turkeys:
Can a dev port it over?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=686893

We don't want to be behind the CDMA Hero... :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] djdavis:
now that would be great, but tbh we've been behind the CDMA hero for ages lol
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] mardurhack:
Arrgh! At villainrom they're almost ready to release a 0.1 version of Froyo for GSM Hero! But...COME ON! O_o They keep saying they can't get the mic working...When on CDMA EVERYTHING works except for GPS and Camera (the same problems we had with the first 2.1 cooked roms). I really hope they decided to release an ALL-WORKING version...Otherwise...I don't know what to think... O_o
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] rankjie:
No Devs want to work together.

So they always can not get everything working at the sametime.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] adwinp:
>EDIT<

rm post
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] bonesy:
Froyvillaino.1 we have been waiting for since just after robin ported n1 FR50...Prepare to wait a whil elonger i think!
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Feeyo:
I am working on a Cronos Froyo build also. Fully compiled from the 2.2 sources.