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[EVO 4G Accessories] ntron1:
+1

Been using this for months on many devices and it works great.
[EVO 4G Accessories] blueblur:
I just ordered one from Amazon.com myself... I got it for free since I had a 10 dollar gift card that I forgot I had!!! Thanks for the link.
[EVO 4G Accessories] gottria:
Do they make one with 2 USB ports? One for charging the phone and another for your Bluetooth head piece.
[EVO 4G Accessories] nhutpham:
I'm not allowed to post links yet, but you can search for Scosche to find their products. They make dual port USB chargers.

Scosche makes a couple different models, one is advertised as having 2 amps over the two ports.

On a side note, I tried buying a blackberry micro usb cable off Amazon, and it starts to charge my phone for a second or two and then stops, it's very strange. I think it might work with the home charger, but I didn't check as I didn't notice till later that the charging stopped so soon.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Slappy_G:
Doing some cleanup and checking threads I promised to respond to... ;)

The Belkin works great, and my wife has the 2-port Scosche. However, for me, NEITHER of them show "Charging(AC)" on either of our 2 Evo's. I have tried the charger in several cars, and same result. Not sure, but I'm guessing they are putting out incrementally less than 1A.

Not sure if that keeps the phone from triggering "quick charge" mode or not.
[EVO 4G Accessories] rhconcepts:
I just got 2 HTC car chargers from ebay, sent from Hong Kong. It says o/p:5.0V-2A so im not sure if I should use them.. here is what they look like.. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170511321504&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

Does anyone have a OEM car charger? I would like to know how many amps it puts out. The wall charger is 1A so will 2A kill it? I sure wouldent use it much only if needed.
[EVO 4G Accessories] 11_fingers:
I have a charger from iGo, works great and has swappable tips so you can use it with other phones or devices, think it was $15-20 with a free tip.
[EVO 4G Accessories] URABUS0924:
Can someone here confirm that this does deliver the full 1A? There is a review on Amazon from an EVO owner who says his phone sees this as USB and not AC charging.
[EVO 4G Accessories] VW91N3:
If you were trying to draw three amps from a 2-amp capacity charger, you could damage the charger. However, a device that draws 1 amp from a 2-amp charger will draw one amp. Chargers don't push more amperage than is demanded: it's up to what the charging device is

drawing

. You and your device will be fine in having "too much" charger.
[EVO 4G Accessories] rhconcepts:
Thanks so much for the info. So this charger should work great then when I start using the sprint nav or google maps.
[EVO 4G Accessories] xero187:
Just received two in the mail.

FAIL

Recognized as USB charging in my car.
[EVO 4G Accessories] appagom:
plus 1 for resurrecting a dead thread :)

I bought an off brand one (looks about identical) in a respectable local supermarket. It claimed 1.5A.. so overspecced (and no there's nothing wrong with overspeccing, devices won't draw more power than they can handle so long as the input voltage is correct).

Like the previous poster's belkin experience, my korean SGS (shw-m110s) saw it as a usb, not ac. I took it apart and shorted the data pins together, took about 5 minutes). Then it recognized as AC and charged a little faster I think, but still at empty (the fastest time to charge normally) it charges about 1% (1.5 mAh) in 2 minutes(.033 hours).. which is just under 500mA charge rate (450 but well within the measurement error and 10% loss seems quite reasonable anyway). Anyway, sure as heck isn't able to draw 1A off of it. The wall charger which is supposedly only 700 mA charges several times faster actually! (which is probably quite safe at low charge levels, but sure seems like alot more than 700mA too me, but I didn't measure it as well).

I suspect this gizmo was never actually meant to output 1.5A (as it's not configured as a quick charger) or if it does, it only does it with large losses, and an internal voltage drop that's too excessive for the SGS to still be capable of actually pulling that much current.

Wish I knew what to buy.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Dante_l1:
I Have been using the official palm charger since June. I picked it up at sprint corporate store or radio shack. It is rated for 1 amp and come with a nice short micro usb.

If I were buying today I would go with one of the Platinum branded items Best Buys sells. I saw them for the first time last night so they must be new. So far I have purchased the Pt branded case for EVO and 2 different mounting kits. All of their stuff seems top quality. The have a 2 amp single usb and a 3 amp dual usb model that I saw.
[EVO 4G Accessories] dpriz:
Hey everyone,

Thought I might jump on this. I looked around, even with the links in this thread, and could not found a high quality charger. However, I came up empty.

I then looked at my iPod AC charger from Apple. USB 1amp. It works EXTREMELY fast. You can get it for like $5 from Amazon, and it's an extremely high quality product.
[EVO 4G Accessories] appagom:
Many ac chargers are good...that's easy. Sure I might just use an inverter...but that wasn't really the point.
[EVO 4G Accessories] jojo08:
what about the sprint chargers? there are some listed on ebay from different sellers (one which is pictured like it is on the sprint site -- logo with no sprint name, while the others have logo plus sprint name). anyone have experience with these?

http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=m570&_nkw=sprint+oem+evo+charger&_sacat=See-All-Categories
[EVO 4G Accessories] SkyyPunk:
I bought this Motorola one recently (make sure its from amazon directly), and it was the first one I've had that actually was recognized as an AC adapter, and its relatively cheap! (<$5)
[Desire General] amir84:
i can't decide what to buy! :(

iphone 4 should be sell in my ****ry beginig of september

and i really like the HTC brands but don;t know what to buy

is the front camera on the iphone will be able to make video calls lets say by fring?

what the desire better in from the iPhone 4?

p.s. sorry for my english
[Desire General] Thugsin313:
yaar, iphone chutiyapa hai! Seriously! buhat restrictions hain us may!

jo steve jobs chahay ga wohi ker sakte ho aap!

HTC Desire may android hai, jo ke opensource hai, so is may buhat kuch hai kerne ko! agar tumhay games aur apps ka shooq ho to iphone lelo, warna desire mast hai!

btw, iphone desire se kaafi mehnga bhi hai,

agar september tak wait kerne ka mood hai to tab tak motorola DroidX bhi ajayega, aur woh iphone ka baap hai!!
[Desire General] ArtieQ:
The Desire is better in every single way, enough said.
[Desire General] oursoul:
Depends on how you like to hold your phone :D
[Desire General] yojosefo:
At least you can hold your desire as you want when calling someone x) hahah
[Desire General] waynefield:
If you want an FM Radio, go the Desire. The only flaw from my personal opinion is that Iphone does not have an FM Radio. Having said that, I'm going to get an Iphone 4, as well, when it's finally released.
[Desire General] ohyeahar:
Wow, that's the largest understatement ever....

I've posted something similar to this in the off-topic section about the iPhone...but here we go again!

The Good

Long battery life

Thin form factor

Impressive screen resolution and pixel density

Excellent camera for stills

Excellent video recording capability (720p)

The Bad

Relatively small screen compared to the competition.

Non removable battery

MicroSIM

Nonstandard plug for charge and sync

(Infamous) Antennae hardware design fault

The iOS

Obstrusive Notifications

Home screen is useless; just an application launcher

No native file system

No smart dialing

No fullscreen mode in browser

No text reflow in browser
[Desire General] Flaggie:
uhmm say what????

OT: in the desire is miles better thread there is already a discussion on why desire is better then iphone
[Desire General] Joshhudsy:
Desire definitely

sent via the XDA Tapatalk app using my HTC Desire :)
[Desire General] zaki67:
I think that asking this question in an HTC Desire forum would really give you the right neutral answer since we are all here more or less Desire fans
[Desire General] diggedy:
ha ha yeh

Personally I think your choice needs to come down to the software, if you want android then its desire all the way, if iOS floats your boat then go for iphone. In terms of hardware they arent all that much different when looking at future proofing.

The front facing camera doesnt appeal to me as ive never made a video call yet in all the years of owning a 3g phone. I would say one of the biggest pluses of the iphone is the video recording though but this antenna bug would really put me off getting one.
[Desire General] foxmeister:
As has already been said, you won't get an objective answer it seems in the Desire forum. This is borne out by the responses you've already had.

The iPhone 4 is a very fine phone indeed. Like everything, it has its plus and minus points. In terms of hardware, the iPhone 4 probably has the best overall hardware of any device out there (antenna problems not withstanding), and in software it has a very good OS (iOS4) which is somewhat crippled by Apple themselves (e.g. multitasking), and has the most complete and coherent application base out there.

For me, the biggest problem is the Apple ecosystem that is built around the phone, and the draconian control that Apple have over that ecosystem.

In my opinion, Apple treat their iPhone customers as if they've leased the device from Apple, rather than actual owners of the device.

This is coming from an Apple "advocate" - I have an iMac and a Macbook which are think are both excellent. However, I also have several Windows PC's, so I'm not a rabid fanboi.

So, I'm firmly in the Android camp, and the Desire has very capable hardware attached to a very good implementation of the Android OS (including Sense!).

One other factor which is definitely significant here in the UK are the costs of the plans associated with getting an iPhone subsidized under contract. The iPhone 4 plans are all expensive, and unless you are prepared to pay at least £45 a month you still have to pay towards the phone. Coupled with derisory data limits (usually 1GB or less), it's a bad deal. FWIW T-Mobile in the UK has a 3GB "limit" for all Android handsets and you can usually get a Desire free on £30pm contracts.

Regards,

Dave
[Desire General] dgattenb:
This is a desire forum ..... the end
[Desire General] spritable:
For me the only reason that iPhone 4 is better than the Desire is the 720 video recording. That's it.

Since there is a rumor that with Froyo you will get the 720 video recording, so iPhone 4 is no way better than Desire.

So go and get a Desire, you won't be disappointed.
[Desire General] fxone:
I find the Desire is much better.

Have a look at this http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/06/10/apple-ios-3-4-vs-android-2-1-eclair-2-2-froyo-fight/
[Desire General] andycted:
There are NO issues with the new iPhone 4.

Just to recap:

- Can't hold it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ixIHyEPO5g

- Proximity sensor messed up. http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/29/is-the-iphone-4-having-proximity-sensor-troubles/

- Multitasking sucks. http://blogs.bnet.com/businesstips/?p=7957

- Exchange doesn't work. http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/06/29/ios-4-exchange/

- Breaks from one foot. http://flirtationcreations.com/blog/2010/06/first-iphone-4-broken-after-one-foot-drop/ . Trips water sensors in steamy rooms

- ios4 broke many features

- You get some bodily fluids on it directly from the CEO. http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/24/iphone-4s-yellow-spot-issue-goes-away-with-a-bit-of-time/

- The usual reasons why the old os sucked, they are still there

But these are NON issues ! Actually none of these issues exist. See this for confirmation: http://www.fakesteve.net/2010/06/there-is-no-spoon.html
[Desire General] Scann69:
I've never been much of an iPhone fan and the link below reassure me even more :)

Http://www.mashable.com/2010/06/29/leaked-iphone-4-docs/

Sent via my Desire
[Desire General] Rkiver:
Apple make some decent products.

Apple charges a very high premium for their products (ie desktops, you can build better yourself for a lot cheaper).

Apples iPhone 4 is not amongst their decent products.
[Desire General] Teppic24:
Not safe for work - contains swears.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg
[Desire General] joshjzx:
APPLE

Your Doing It Wrong :P
[Desire General] mercianary:
This is probably the worst place to ask that question.

Here people will say desire

On an iPhone forum people will say iPhone

Ask somewhere impartial, like a winmo forum.
[Desire General] boas:
Well don't let a camera in the front decide for you! Videocalls from Cellphones is practally useless and been around for 6 years or so. I have had it on virutally every phone I have owned, but never ever used it. And those I know that used it, did so the first week, then got sick and tired of it..

If I were you I would get a desire if you cant hold out until HTC/other releases a nice Android phone with even better hardware.
[Desire General] jpxdude:
I actually had a go with the iPhone 4 earlier today, and I did come away really liking the phone. It was very fast and responsive, resolution was very high, crisp, and colours were vibrant, but they don't have the nice 'pop' that the Desire has.

The biggest plus in my opinion was that the actual design is superb. It absolutely trumps all iterations of the iPhone so far. The phone feels really nice in hand, and surprisingly very light but solid, especially compared to the Desire.

Despite my brief flirtation with the iPhone4, I really love my Desire, and see more potential with it in the longrun, especially with Froyo on the horizon!
[Desire General] Thugsin313:
Thats what she said! :p
[Desire General] .Hodgy.:
+1 to this

spent time with my friends phone and thought the exact same, if only we could have android in it :cool:

however my advice would be an android phone if you are the type who likes to mod their phone because the iOS is locked down more than ever before.

http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile...e-information-att-locks-user-via-ota-updates/

long story short: if you jailbreak the iphone 4 and a OTA update comes you have 7-14 days to accept it, if you don't your phone locks out until you accept the update and you become blacklisted by apple and they will not offer any support in the future and i think you lose your warranty.
[Desire General] gazebee:
Just had jailbreaked and unlocked my buddy's 3gs, and I'm reminded how annoyingly dependent the iPhone is oniTunes. For that reason alone, I dont' want the 4.
[Desire General] RXP:
If you're picking up design faults the pink tint on the Desire is a pretty big ones. The colours are rendered awfully inaccurately. Therefore the iphone's screen is way better. Just wish they put a bigger one on it!
[Desire General] zaki67:
I have recently purchased an HTC desire to replace a 3vs , I have to say that overall the iPhone is a better device ,it.does everything without getting the.user involved with a lot o settings .only problem is.that I missed the.old winmo days and this does provide a similar experience on a much updated software , Android does feel like what winmo would have become if Microsoft did.not forget about if for a few years .
[Desire General] hyocca:
How can you even compare that!

Just gonna say my hearts out here.

Desire's is a life changer.

Iphone's a money sucker.

And itunes suck lol seriously.

Grab a packet of chips, sit by a swing and have that first munch..

Then close your eyes and imagine the trouble using itunes..

Feel that man.

Peace.

LOL

Sent from my HTC Desire!

Oh yeah!~
[Desire General] djoni1980:
despite few flaws, I vote for Iphone 4
[Desire General] ardsar:
I have just received an email from HTC stating that the desire is not capable of 720 video, even after froyo. The screen will not support it anyway (480*800)
[Desire General] .Hodgy.:
this cannot be true as the nexus one has an identical screen and camera yet it has 720p support from a hack/mod.
[Desire General] ArtieQ:
Yes, I have a Desire, but it's so obvious it's better on every single way, even the browser in Eclair/Froyo is better than Safari. I will NEVER get tired of my Desire, I got tired of my iPod Touch in a few days and now I can't use it for anything else than music and videos.
[Desire General] foxmeister:
We *know* that the Desire's camera can support 720p video, because it is the same camera as the Nexus One and that already has it. What we don't have is the necessary radio image for the Desire to enable it.

As to your second point - what has the screen resolution got to do with it? The iPhone4 has a screen resolution of 960x640, so it also can't display a 720p video at full resolution but that doesn't mean it can't record in that resolution. For that matter, I seriously doubt that my 720p camcorder has an LCD display that can display the video at full resolution either.

Regards,

Dave
[Desire General] ardsar:
Just stating fact as some seem to be miss led. My point is that if u want 720 video recording, its sounds like u will need to flash a custom rom as HTC are not supporting this according to the email received. Don't flame the messenger.
[Desire General] Eggcake:
Hardware --> definitely iPhone, you can't deny it.

Better screen, better casing, better camera, front facing camera, about equal processor, better gpu, more space (there are no 32GB SD-cards available or they are much too expensive) and last but not least MUCH better battery lifetime!

Sorry, but everyone who seriously wants to tell me that the Desire got better hardware....please, face the facts.

Software --> Well...definitely Android and that's why I'm still here and I always will be ;)
[Desire General] AndroHero:
the 1gig apple a4 is nowhere as near as good as snapdragon, whats the point in a front camera if you can only video call over wifi?? it only has 512 mb of ram and the camera is only 5mp too so bolox to you lol
[Desire General] foxmeister:
Where on earth did you get that idea from, because it is totally wrong!

Both the A4 and the Snapdragon have an ARM8 Cortex core, so are broadly similar. However, the A4 has a more competent GPU than the Snapdragon. If anything, it is "better" than the Snapdragon, but given the similarities in design are close enough.

Regards,

Dave
[Desire General] foxmeister:
No, you are quoting rumour.

HTC customer services are not the most reliable source of information concerning anything to do with HTC phones - this has been borne out time and time again.

I'd put money on the Froyo/Sense update bring 720p recording to the Desire, because the Froyo update to the Nexus One did and the hardware in most respects is very, very similar.

Regards,

Dave
[Desire General] cr1960:
winmo forum will say both no good - get a HD2 :D

all good devices imho - you just need to find the one that suits your individual needs and taste.

it's like saying is an orange better than a banana.....
[Desire General] mercianary:
An orange is better than a banana.
[Desire General] foxmeister:
Just to correct myself, but the Snapdragon doesn't use an off the shelf Cortex A8 core, but does use the same ARM7 instruction set and is a similar design.

Regards,

Dave
[Desire General] darrenjdoc:
I have the 2 phones and not sure which i like the most. Everything works very well in both phones but what i do miss in the iPhone are widgets, live wallpapers and main home screen.

But the screen and camera are better in the iPhone.

Play with the 2 phones and make up your own decision :)
[Desire General] Eggcake:
First of all, 1Ghz A4 is better than 1GHz Snapdragon.

Second - the iPhone isn't running on 1GHz.

Third - it has a front facing camera, the desire doesn't. That's all I said. And that's definitely not a "minus", it's a "plus", no matter how hard you try.

Fourth - the camera is better - stop looking just at Megapixels, look at test pictures. Plus it's possible to record 720p. Well MAYBE it's also possible with the desire, but it isn't possible right now.

Fifth - Allright, 64MB less. Wow.

And last but not least - you ignored the rest ;)

Sorry to disappoint you guys, but if you look at hardware, the iPhone 4 is better in nearly every aspect. I mean...you can deny it, but that won't change the reality... ;)
[Desire General] AndroHero:
from what ive been told by some friends who work for sun microsystems, comparing the a4 to the snapdragon is like comparing a intel chip to a simlar spec amd version, they mite come with all the fancy nvida graphics but for pure processing power intel kicks there arse :confused: lol
[Desire General] RicardoPT:
I have my desire to sell on markplace...over 350€ = new...only 4 days...

I don't like desire...I want windows phone....

but I don't like iphone too :P
[Desire General] AndroHero:
stop spamming all the theads man or ur gunna get a ban if a mod see's
[Desire General] RicardoPT:
I responde to this user.....I don't like desire....but if he want buy one...I want sell mine =/....but ok...if this considering spam I will stop :S..sorry for anything :(
[Desire General] foxmeister:
It isn't true.

The A4 is essentially the same processor as the Samsung Hummingbird. As a little historical footnote, Samsung hired Intrinsity to design the Hummingbird and Apple later bought Intrinsity and essentially inherited the design which it then customized to produce the A4 (see here)

Therefore, comparing the Snapdragon in the Nexus One, to the Hummingbird in the Galaxy S, should give a relatively good indication of the processor performance taking the actual OS out of the equation, as they both run Android.

Galaxy S vs Nexus One benchmarks

Going back to the A4 itself, I can only find web benchmarks directly comparing the 1GHz A4 in the iPad to the 1Ghz Snapdragon in the Nexus One, and the A4 clearly out performs it. However, we have the OS to contend with in this comparison, so I'd largely discount the seemingly massive performance advantage that the A4 has here.

On your comparison between Intel and AMD - I think you are definitely confused because AMD is ATI and thus doesn't use NVidia GPUs! :)

Regards,

Dave
[Desire General] AndroHero:
lol i used nvida as an example cuz my old pc had a geforce, unfortunatey as good as my laptop is i have to live with one of they bollox intel chipsets :mad: lol
[Desire General] th3:
Keep in mind that each branded implementation and the software stack adds a tremendous difference for mobile benchmarks - base hardware potential aside.

See the Evo 4G and iPhone 4 reviews' performance section at Anandtech, for example. With Eclair, the Nexus One is no where close to the iPad. With Froyo, it is right up there. Additionally, there is a rather noticeable spread in performance even between the Evo 4G, Droid Incredible and Nexus One whilst running the same base SoC with Eclair (let alone when you add Froyo to the mix).

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- Sent via my HTC Desire -
[Desire General] al89nut:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg

Here is the answer
[Desire General] XDA mark:
Love that haha

Ontopic: it's hard to say that one of these 2 phone's is 'the better one'. First of all, HTC Desire is about 200 euro cheaper.

Then there are some things that could make this decision easy.

Are games important to you? If yes, iPhone 4 is the way to go.

Are notifications and multitasking important to you? Then the HTC Desire is probably better.

Do you film a lot? Then the HD recording on the iPhone 4 combined with iMovie are the winners.

Do you want/need flash? If yes, then you should be better of with the Desire.

Overall, I think I would go for the iPhone 4. Though I would mis:

The browser on the Desire. Flash, text reflow and full screen browsing are great. Even though I keep reading that the iPhone's screen is so Sharp, you can often read the text without zooming.

I would mis the homescreen: wallpapers, widgets, etc. iPhone's homescreen is lame.

My advise: start thinking about what is important to you (and try not to bias yourself, be honest). That should make your choice the easiest and the best. Good luck!