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[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RanEnRui:
Well, I'm sure I'm not the only one thinking this. As you guys can imagine, FaceTime is going to be the new craze among iPhone 4 users. As much as I hate to say it, Apple will be the ones to make voice calling finally take off.

Qik is meh, and Skype video chat is still up in the air (no pun intended).

So that begs the question, would it be possible to make a device such as the Evo emulate FaceTime (with an iPhone 4 caller). Considering it's over WiFi, I don't see how it couldn't be possible.

They claim FaceTime is supposed to be an "open" standard, though I am a bit dubious to this considering H.264/AAC is involved.

Anyhow, all licensing and networking aside, I think we can agree that it is somewhat remotely possible and also really neat of an idea.

I know it's a bit early, but are there any teams talking about/working on this? I'm a developer (and learning the Android ropes at the moment) and would love to help contribute to something like this.

Comments, thoughts, and suggestions all welcome! :)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CentroniX:
Yup, we'll see it eventually. As you said, FaceTime is an open standard and will probably be adopted on many different platforms. H.264 and AAC encoding's wont cause a problem, and will actually be beneficial due to it's compression versus quality ratio. Couple that together with the fact that the Evo already supports them out of the box, it's a no-brainer!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mast3rpyr0:
Eventually most likely all devices will connect somehow. This is a question though and would be more fit for the Q&A forum
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] coolguy949:
The cool thing will be that we will likely be able to connect to FaceTime via 3G/4G and they will need Wifi because of Apple/ATT's control.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mintishhippo:
I would love to help out with this in any way I can, I can't do code but if you need graphics for the project, just pm me.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RTessi:
take it for what its worth, but Engadget did a test of facetime with mifi devices and the results were piss poor... we're probably better off using qik or some system that is designed for mobile networks.

R
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gbm85:
Guess that explains why it's WiFi-only. Typical Crapple.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] notown775:
id factor it up more towards at&t not wanting the iphone users (apparently bandwidth hogs) taking up anymore of their resources.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mastermayhm:
this isdump. we have fring and qik which already work over 3g and 4g were facetime is only working over wifi....and its not even performing well with that....so what im trying to understand is...what is it that you are you expecting?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ViViDboarder:
I agree with you.

I don't think we need someone on Android to implement FaceTime... I'd rather have Fring, Qik or Skype put 2-way chat on the iPhone 4. It's not like I'm going to be in a call with someone and be like, oh, lets switch over to video so we can see each other. I'm fine with using a dedicated client and I think most iPhone users would be too.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrono:
agreed, most of that stuff is just a gimmick, you use it once and then nada. I personally haven't used video chat on my phone since i got it.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gthing:
I agree somewhat. I've used it a couple times but the lack of quality makes it a gimmick. If it was higher quality and more people could connect, I would probably use it more and think it was less gimmicky.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrono:
the quality is why I haven't used it, it's like i'm broadcasting from a portal into LEGO world
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tecmu:
Yeah, so far video chatting from phone to phone is such a gimmick. However, I see some potential for video chatting from evo to computer. There isn't many video chat enabled phones out there but plenty of people with computers to video chat with. I just haven't found the right softwares for the phone and computer to use.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mastermayhm:
fring on evo connected with skype on computer is flawless, sound and video...if you have strong 3g/4g/wifi signal
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] itmustbejj:
ChatRoulette for Android :) Especially since they are working on an algorithm to filter out all the wangs :)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mastermayhm:
your kiddin me hahahah filter out the wangs....thats hilarious.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rajnallan:
Facetime application for Android

I switched from Apple to HTC EVO and I am very happy with HTC EVO. It is awesome. However if you look at the quality of video on face time it is amazing. The video and audio quality through Fring is no way comparable to facetime. Also people have connected using tethering through HTC EVO and connected two iphones with facetime. Excellent quality over 3G through HTC EVO. Summary, it will be nice to have an application like factime... Thanks
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gthing:
Is crap typical from Apple?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SiL3nTKiLL:
never really used facetime :/
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rolle3k:
Hiya,

can anyone dump me his init.rc? Thanks a lot!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rolle3k:
Thanks a lot! :-)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yoelpm:
could you tell me how did you dump the file,, and btw is there a way to modify it no add the loading of some other libraries/services?

thanks!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] hazwer:
Hi

I am using O2 xda exec and i want to update it from wm5 to wm6.1 :) , but i am totally confused as i am new to this device :confused: . i have read most of the topics on this forum and also the wiki but half of the links dont work now :mad: . i have no idea how to update but i really want to update it and am also scared what if i brick it :eek: .. please can you guys help me out here.. the configuration is given below.. other than that i live in asia so can i use Tomal v8.5?? would it support my network?? Please do tell me step by step.

wm 5.0

ROM version: 1.13.82 WWE

ROM date: 11/30/05

Radio version: 1.04.02

ExtROM version: 1.13.188 WWE
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] orb3000:
Have a deep read to the Wiki here to learn how to upgrade ROM.

Tomal ROM´s are one of the most popular as they are fast and stable

Good luck,
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] hazwer:
thank you for the reply.. can you give a link from where i can download tomal v8.5. and could you tell me if it works on G3 or G4 or both.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] hazwer:
Thanks

Thanks orb3000 for your support :) i did the upgrade to tomal v8.9... all i had to do is read the wiki carefully :D
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] orb3000:
Glad to know it helped, key is searching and reading:D

Now enjoy your Uni!!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] karan999:
im using the same Tomal's V8.9 and Shadow_Nexus's 21056 alternatively.but im facing an annoying problem.im facing an unexpected sudden turn off.the only way is to get my unversal booting is to connect it to my comp via usb and then start it.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] darmok1701:
hi i have the same model, did you manage to upgarde or not. any links would be helpfull thanks
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] orb3000:
Searching is the key

Have a look on my signature link:eek:
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xghostyxjokerx:
okay i had a rooted nexus one with recovery 1.7.0.1 cyan and running the froyo rom now i used the passion to go back and it wipe all and brought me back to 2.1 stock no super user privilege and my recovery is gone too now i cant even put the recovery on i used the superboot to add the superuser and i guess it work because i now have that on my phone please anyone help??? im running 2.1 ere 79???
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xghostyxjokerx:
ok i went back to stock again then update to 2.1 update 1 now i put in the super user on it now what guys??? i try to flash but cannot locate the damn image??
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xghostyxjokerx:
i placed in the image and get cannot load error??? please somone help??
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xghostyxjokerx:
im on terminal and dont work...omg!!! flash image not found i place it on my sd card and this is what i type...

su

# flash_image recovery /sdcard/recovery.img

note i change the name shorter so i wont type long...and no good??:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xghostyxjokerx:
Problem solved

Nvm problem solved!!!:)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Henchman:
Hahahahahaha, IU have to say, it was pretty funny to see you document your path from despair to solving the poblem in the time of an hour.
[About XDA developers] A.J:
hello,

how you doin all, hope you keepin' well .. i have new idea and im gonna start to work on it with my team but first wanted to know what you think about it ... the software is easy access way to get the windows and the updates for your pocket pc ... like you run the program you pick your device and you see all the avalible windows (roms) for your device with their download link just an easy way to get roms especially for new users ... an easy way to use it ... all you gonna need is user name and password of ur xda and thats it.. the program will be for sure free to every one and maybe gonna need some guys to manage the update of data base from time to time :)

tell me what you think about it and any comment you welcome :)
[About XDA developers] A.J:
come on guys just vote just comment if worth bulding this project or not thank u so much :)
[About XDA developers] A.J:
thanks for every one who did read and vote :) ... hope to have more voices pls :)
[About XDA developers] SiL3nTKiLL:
i say go for it!
[About XDA developers] A.J:
thanks sil3n

and yea ill start work on it and maybe ill need testers team ill let ya know about it later when i finish the work ... thanks every one
[About XDA developers] flyboyovyick:
Its a great idea. Maybe:

PC Program: Roms and apps program

PPC Program:Have a apps program, like Microsoft Marketplace? But free.

This might be a good idea.

Iam willing to help you with some stuff.
[About XDA developers] A.J:
thanks flyboy ... and rly nice ideas from u too ... ill contact with u as soon as prototype of the program be ready so we can work togther too and share ideas thanks buddy again
[About XDA developers] eddy790:
i agree with this new program.... as long as it is free & useful
[About XDA developers] Frans Parnel:
so what about an android version? and what about when wp7 comes out? Would you plan to expand the app to those platforms as well? I think it is a great idea regardless, especially for phones that have lots of roms available to them. It won't make much since for people that only have 1 or 2 roms to choose from, but would be a nice and quick way to get updates.
[About XDA developers] A.J:
eddy790 : yea for sure its gonna be free and much more easy way especially for new users to get updates for their devices

ebbinger_413 : and yes buddy ill do my best to expand the app but not in mean time .. now we building the base of the program and everything gonna contain and after the release just in time ill expand it to contain more stuff and more OS
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] rubber duckie:
hello,

im not sure if anyone found this to be a problem, but i would love to have a keyboard with a send button in landscape mode without having to hide keyboard
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] mmuscaro:
i have found that if you flip the phone back to it's normal position, the keyboard goes back to its normal self with a send button. i've been doing that lately instead of hiding the keyboard.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] rubber duckie:
yeah i was just wondering if there was something that didnt involve the hide/turning phone. just type and send.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Puma81:
+1 I would like to know about this too. Maybe someone can do a IME mod
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] newone757:
the htc ime mod can do this in the stock messaging app, theres an option to use the enter key as send. OR you can disable the fullscreen l;landscape all together so that you still see the text field with the send button next to it.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] wrecklass:
I find it easiest to simply hit the hard back button which hides the keyboard. Unfortunately I do like using paragraphs in my posts too much to want my return key changed to a send key.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] remedy22:
AFAIK the htc ime mod only assigns the return key to send while using the stock messaging app. It should not affect your need for using paragraphs while using any other app.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] wildcard:
Yes, this would be a good mod. If you could fit a "Send" key somewhere on the keyboard
[HD2 General] Stu1973:
Or so I was told from them, my HD2 is 02 payg and they said they didnt have the setting for that phone, only for it on contract :confused:

Can anyone tell what the hell the diffirence is as its the same bloody phone :rolleyes:
[HD2 General] Demon_man:
its not about it being the same phone mate, but yes they have different settings, not sure why never bothered to find out, dp you need the settings?
[HD2 General] Stu1973:
Yes I would like them cause it wont send photos through it
[HD2 General] Demon_man:
http://forum.o2.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=32624&sid=a674014174b5e4d36e4b308fcbe471d6

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=590753

should help mate
[HD2 General] Stu1973:
Thanks, I meant to answer when you replied :o

I tried the settings and can send texs ok but still not photos....any idea why?....02 are no help at all!
[HD2 General] rp-x1:
Might need to be activated on your account, ring O2 and ask if your account is set up for MMS.
[HD2 General] ericman77:
If i decide to format my sd/card wich folders should i save and if i mistakenly delete one that shouldn't be will it be recreated by the phone automatically if its needed?
[HD2 General] zelendel:
Yes you should save all the folders and files from your sd card before you format. No if you forget to save them then the phone will not recreate them, they are gone.
[HD2 General] ericman77:
Thanks so much I just wanted to make sure. When i reformated my Android phones sd/cards it would rebuild the folders it needed. thanks again :) and sorry for posting in the roms section.
[G1 Apps and Games] ranhdrcewp:
LinkPush – Chrome To Phone For Everyone

http://www.droid-life.com/2010/06/08/download-linkpush-chrome-to-phone-for-everyone/

Check the Droid-life post for all the info.
[G1 Apps and Games] mr.incredible:
Sweet. Thank's for the link.
[G1 Apps and Games] Daneshm90:
Im using url push. I think its better :D
[Droid Incredible General] johnnyc418:
is there a guide i can follow to install the unrevolved rom or any other custom rom

thank you
[Droid Incredible General] rsjet:
This really helped me understand a lot of how this stuff is done. It's written for the Nexus One, but the process should be similar.

The site is : theunlockr ... Click on How To's --> android --> then Nexus One.

Scroll down to "How to load a custom ROM"

Hope this helps. Goodluck.

Edit: UGH! STupid thing wont let me post the link.
[Droid Incredible General] blakestiffler:
i believe there are only 2 ways to install a custom rom. One way is to install an update.zip from your custom recovery (or any zip when using koush's custom recovery) the other way to install a rom is to do a nandroid restore. Which method is used depends on the rom. For unrevolved just download the zip, boot into recovery, select install zip from sd card, then go to your download folder where the zip should have downloaded and install it, reboot
[Droid Incredible General] blakestiffler:
make sure to download and install the apps.zip using this same method otherwise you wont have a market among other google apps which makes it difficult to use your phone
[Droid Incredible General] daddymacbuff:
1st back up your apps with titanium backup

2nd. download Rom Manager in the market the free version will work for now but eventually when more roms get loaded into it the paid version is worth it.

3rd. plug your usb into your pc and the other end into your phone

4th move zip file with out renaming it to your sd card. (Jager 1.1) for example

5th open rom manager click on top link flash clockwork mod recovery. Click incredible click ok.

6th. Install from sd card find the zip(jager 1.1) click on it box opens up very important.(back up data ...check mark wipe ..check mark) done thats it. Now just wait for it to install...

Prob the fastest method out there and the easiest. Takes about 2 or 3 mins to get it installing a new rom.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] amw2320:
I had a few questions that I can't pull up much information on. There looks to be a ton of updates we now have the option of putting on our EVO, what are the differences.

Kernel

--- Alright, I know this one but for anyone who doesn't. This is the heart of the phone. It is what allows software to talk to hardware.

--- Why do some of the kernel changes break the camera/accelerometer? Are these drivers built into the kernel instead of modules? Can they not be rebuilt with different kernels?

NAND

--- What is the NAND and why are we unlocking it?

--- NAND is a type of flash, no? Are all they system files (i.e. the /system folder) on their own chip inside the evo? How can rooting and remounting the system r/w not control the /system folder?

--- While I'm at it, does rooting just me remounting everything but the /system folder as r/w. So a non rooted phone is read only except for the SD card and where ever apps from the market are installed?

Recovery

--- It seems like there are a couple recovery systems out there... clockwork and another. Did the EVO not come with its own recovery system. What have these modded versions added?

ROMS

--- What are these really doing if they are not messing with the /system folder. Are they just a bundle of different programs? Change the rom and you change the programs that are installed? What is the difference between a ROM and a DEV-ROM

RADIO

--- What is the deal with the new radio. Is it updated drivers for the baseband? This kind of gets into my kernel question about how the drivers are handled within the kernel. How can this work across multiple kernels, but we cant get the camera working?

I know this is a lot, but if anyone could fill in some of the holes for me I would appreciate it.

Thanks
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] amw2320:
bump...

Any thoughts? You don't have to answer them all.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] david_ag:
I am NO expert, but can help a bit....

Kernel

--- Alright, I know this one but for anyone who doesn't. This is the heart of the phone. It is what allows software to talk to hardware.

--- Why do some of the kernel changes break the camera/accelerometer? Are these drivers built into the kernel instead of modules? Can they not be rebuilt with different kernels?

From my understanding, the kernles that break the camera, are kernels that are ports of kernels from other phones. So, the drivers for the camera are not the same as for the other phones camera.

Recovery

--- It seems like there are a couple recovery systems out there... clockwork and another. Did the EVO not come with its own recovery system. What have these modded versions added?

My understanding is that the phone's original recovery, is locked to only flash Sprint's Official ROM's. So the custom recovery will allow to flash custom ROM's

ROMS

--- What are these really doing if they are not messing with the /system folder. Are they just a bundle of different programs? Change the rom and you change the programs that are installed? What is the difference between a ROM and a DEV-ROM

Aside from changing apps, ROM's can do different things like optimizing the apps so that they run smoother, move data from one place to another to run more efficiently and allow for a number of customizations that would not be available with only the stock ROM rooted. A ROM is understanded as a usable, stable ROM. A DEV-ROM is one that is not stable, were it has things that still dont work and need to keep improving.

Hope it helps!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] amw2320:
Perfect thanks.

The ROM/DEV-ROM thing was really bugging me, and the recovery explanation makes sense.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] webs05:
So with *.NIX kernels such as linux, unix, and the android kernel there are modules that make up the kernel itself. Any *.NIX kernel is going to be modular and this makes it more efficient and robust. In the case of specific items not working between different kernels, it most likely means the kernel was compiled with specific modules that have specific scripts and drivers in it. This method speeds up the kernel because it takes out stuff not needed. But means it limits the devices the kernel can run on.

In the case of Android ROMs not being able to fully interface with hardware, it likely means the kernel is missing something as another commentator already suggested.

We are unlocking NAND and rooting phones to get access to file systems that are locked down by phone manufactures/cell providers. Doing so unleashes the full potential of the device.

If you rooted your phone and you do not have full access to the file system, you only did part 1 of the root process. There are 2 parts because one unlocks NAND and the other unlocks the file system completely with the phone booted. Step 1 just unlocks filesystem for NAND which means you have to be booted into NAND for full access to file system. I think I have that right. :p

Clockwork and the others are just replacing NAND with their own system, if I am correct. I recommend doing this if you are rooted because you get better features and a constantly updated system, where as NAND is only updated when Sprint and HTC have an update with a NAND update in it (which isn't often). The way I recommend updating this is using ROM Manager once you are rooted. It is very safe and easy.

When you see ROM, think GUI for the OS, collection of apps and scripts. The ROM what you are going to interact with and use. I highly recommend flashing a custom ROM once rooted because you will have less problems and they are way more efficient than stock. Developers take time and care to test and tweak their ROMs so that they not only perform good, but give us the features we want. Find one you like and install. Make sure you do a NAND backup though once you get everything installed the way you like. Also do a titanium backup (app from marketplace) too.

It is recommended not to mess with the radio unless a ROM you want requires it. I flashed it without any trouble at all and things seem fine on my phone. Some people recommend flashing it because they think it makes the cell radios in the phone perform more efficiently and such. This is all I can say on the radio as I'm no expert.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] riverajuan:
This is great information and helps me to push myself even further towards ROM development.

I enjoy my Evo and this website is amazing
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] onepanda:
Great thread and information, I was looking for something similar. I'm totally new to Android and want to start the whole rooting process.

I don't mean to hijack the thread or anything, but some terms are thrown around and I don't have a 100% understanding of what they really mean....could someone please define them?

Recovery?

Flashing?