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[Desire Android Development] aunder90:
oh **** he just put kali- in his place lol

seriously though.we like OD thats why were here, if we want CM we'd be there.

whatever the case, OD and CM are different. besides forgive me if im wrong but didnt google create android? so technically CM is just stealing googles work then isnt it? after all without google there would be no CM. just drop this whole BS now.

kali- take the little dignity you have left and go back to your own work before you damage your reputation even more. im not tryna be ****ty but you really are making things worse and your in a losing battle. CM is great we know that but we obv think OD is better. now like adam said go to DeFrost cos thats pretty much OD so that prob uses more of your work?
[Desire Android Development] domparry:
That about sums it up really.

Keep up the hard work, if South Africa can't win at rugby, at least we can appreciate OD. :-)
[Desire Android Development] bemymonkey:
Sounds like Kali is a bit disillusioned about how much of OpenDesire is actually based on CM.

@Adam: Are you making further UI changes other than the launcher? :)
[Desire Android Development] UpSpin:
You're right and I totally agree with you. However, I don't see hope in a change, because what you want is, in my opinion, impossible. Everyone who reads a bit on XDA knows who ported the kernels to the Desire and made such mods possible. Many know that OD or DeFrost is a mod based on Cyanogen, which is based on your kernel, which is based on Google code.

What you want is that people, who request changes in the kernel don't ask AdamG, because he won't be able to fix it. He may post it over at Cyanogen, may find a solution sometimes, however, it would be much better if they post it in an appropriate thread. I also see, that the current Changelogs, posted by AdamG, may mislead some new people, so they think, AdamG changed everything, whereas some other people, working on the Cyanogenmod project fixed this. However, as he wrote you, he's involved there, too, the same with Google, who gets no credit at all ;)

But I think a good solution is impossible with the current forum structure on XDA. And I think it's unfair to blame AdamG, who puts a lot of work in OD and also, just as he posted, helps improving Cyanogenmod, thus also OD, too.

Best would be a dedicated subforum which contains the OD, DeFrost, Cyanogen and the Kernel thread, so new people understand the facts faster and it's easier to post suggestions in the right thread.

So maybe a semi-solution would be, if AdamG and richardtrip (he's in no way better, I think his first post is even more misleading), post more clearly that it's based on the latest releases and fixes of Cyanogenmod, custom optimized and specific improvements for the Desire included. Or you create a new thread which explains how Cyanogenmod and other mods work, on which kernel they are based, on which this is based, a small FAQ for HTC-less ROMs, to which a link gets added in the first post of the OD, DF and CM threads.

I think this is the best solution, to clarify how the things work. So people may also be able to better deal with the different mods, and won't ask, what's the difference, what's better too often. And also may be able to post Kernel specific changes in other threads. Maybe you ask AdamG and richardtrip, if they are OK with such a link.
[Desire Android Development] westernmg:
+100 (nice dream....)
[Desire Android Development] beidl:
Kali and defer, the 2 Desire maintainers of the CM project, were the first who got the .32 kernel working on the Desire.

Every single AOSP dev uses their kernel. And you just dissed kali... lol you should be glad he made custom AOSP Froyo ROMs possible on the Desire.
[Desire Android Development] zoltrix:
i got some more questions!

1) I cant send mms on 3.4.2. Should i upgrade to 3.5.2? will that fix it?

2) my SetCPU profiles dont seem to be working. I have them enabled, but they dont work when they should be working. My phone has been on standby for most of the day and my battery is at 50 meaning my max should be about 576 and instead its at 998 like on the main setcpu page

3) The proximity sensor for phone calls seems a bit wonkey. Ill be onthe phone and it will go off, then immediatly go backon. Ive only noticed this at night (maybe because its brighter)IS also be fixed in 3.5.2?

4) I noticed that 3.5.1 changed some radio libraries. Does that mean that 3.5.1+ will have those changes? Will it effect my signal?

5) Lastly, should i keep up to date with OD as soon as a new release comes out?
[Desire Android Development] umd:
I have different opinion. Little intresting. I'm guessing that they conspired before to increase pages of this thread :D To make this thread biggest :D Otherwise I don't understand the point of this argument.
[Desire Android Development] Drefsab:
No one cares who had it first, though the only point you may have is if you can prove these changes do not exist in the AOSP Repo because Adams own claims is that's where hes got the changes from, and thats where the CM team are building from as well. There are 2 main ones listed by Kali-:

# kernel: added gpu patches (increased performance) (from CyanogenMod)

# statusbar: fixed corners not filling screen (from CyanogenMod)

Adam claims they came from google, so I ask are these part of the AOSP? If so then as far as I can see anyone can use them and CM doesn't have exclusive rights to use them.

=

As for guys Hating on Kali- please try to remember that Kali- has done a hell of a lot for the community and still deserves respect. Sure I don't agree with the way he's acting any more than most people do but there's no need to be abusive about it ether.

=

Having just read Adam's post as well about the distribution of the repo's id be very interested to know the percentages of the Google AOSP repos CM uses, as each one the rom's share will basically be the same and nether Adam or CM have any right to moan that there is similarities. The 9% that are adam's own well ok 9% isnt a lot but I seam to remember that CM has been around a hell of a longer and had more chance to fork from the AOSP.
[Desire Android Development] MacCarron:
Ok i'm going to say this only once and i think i speak for a whole bunch of people. "WHO GIVES A FLYING ****?!?!?!?"

I tried many roms, yes even CM rcs and nightlies. They all had problems. Too many problems. To me, the only viable alternative to OD is the MoDaCo rom, but i have grown tired of sense ui. Since android is open source and a lot of people label themselves as the paladins of gpl or something like that, bickering over who did what first is the stupidest thing ever, especially considering that credits are more or less always given, maybe not detailed-50-pages-long credits, but a thanks is always there to be read. Unless the real reason behind all this is that without "competition" all donations would go to fewer people. In this (hopefully) remote scenario than it's not stupid to argue, it's just plain disgusting. As far as i'm concerned, Adam may be basing all of his work on whoever's rom, but his actually works. And better than the "original". Yes i would not care even if he were stealing from little kids, i'm that mean. I add myself to those begging that these feuds come to a stop, at least in the public threads, and apologize for inevitably dragging it further by asking for a cease fire (the irony..)
[Desire Android Development] AdamG:
Thats not the only thing, Im doing this on my own when CM has 30+ people contributing daily.

Like I stated in same post CM has 60 packages, compared with OD 40.
[Desire Android Development] andrewsoong:
I don't care how much of it he's hand coded.

He's offering a stock rom striped of a lot of the stuff that (clearly) a lot of people have no interest in. That's the main reason this rom is so popular. People like vanilla, especially in a mobile time where the user (through Market, etc) can make the rom their own. That hasn't really been possible in previous generations.

That's the only reason I use OD. He could lock kittens in bins for all I care, I'd still use OpenDesire.

The new launcher in v3.6 is a strange move. I assume he's done it simply because he's enjoyed doing it which is fair enough. I'm too much of a LP fanboy to change though.
[Desire Android Development] quazis:
Which is why we buy you beer!!!:D
[Desire Android Development] daffie:
Both of you...could you please now stop with your childish bickering in this thread...

Edit : removed many explitives, as I over-reacted trying to get my point accross.
[Desire Android Development] Nodders:
I have to say that a few of the comments on this page are deeply embarrassing to read on a dev forum (e.g. MacCarron and Drefsab amongst others). Please guys, if you're going to post on a dev site don't humiliate yourself with adolescent tantrums. Personally I find the github commits pretty eyeopening.
[Desire Android Development] FineDroid:
O.k., just to come back to the original topic:

GPS fix in 3.5.2. needs minutes and then it only works with GSM location.

Otherwise everything looks great so far.

Battery usage is perfect.
[Desire Android Development] b6rt:
Hello there :)

It might be interesting for some of you : since I moved from Launcher Pro to ADW, I don't any OJ death problem anymore.

:D

using OD 3.1.0 for the moment.
[Desire Android Development] kartoffel1212:
GPS works but it takes at first time of Device start long time
[Desire Android Development] shaolin79:
Adam, we are behind you :p (not 30+ people maybe more ?? :rolleyes:

OpenDesire Bugs Spreadsheet by shaolin79
[Desire Android Development] Drefsab:
Where has there been a tantrum from myself posted? I've asked for clarification on points raised, I've also pointed out that Kali- deserves respect and shouldn't be given abuse as some people have been giving, I hardly see what is embarrassing or can be classed as "Tantrum".

The github commits don't seam that surprising to me as adam has always said parts of OD comes from CM. He has never claimed otherwise only denied that it was 99% CM which to be fair hes offered evidence to prove just that. Asking what percentage of CM comes from AOSP repo's again is not exactly something to be embarrassed about ether.
[Desire Android Development] Eggcake:
Is it possible to go from 2.1 ROM (Amer Bravox) to this without wipe of the EXT-Partition (so I keep my apps installed)?

Plus: how do I save and restore my personal dictionary?
[Desire Android Development] abats:
I really enjoy Froyo roms, but thus far every single one of them causes my call quality to be near useless :(
[Desire Android Development] masi0:
u won't find out if u wont try :)
[Desire Android Development] K3yMaster:
True. The echo/white noice issue is extremely annoying, but you gotta love the speed of froyo roms :p

Anyways. People are working on it, so lets hope a solution presents itself in the near future.

Cyanogen roms will also be coming shortly, and hopefully they will fix some of these things.
[Desire Android Development] Eggcake:
True... :D

I will try, thanks to nandroid that's no problem.

But my bigger problem is my dictionary :(

Already lost it once because I forgot to save it...there were about 300 to 700 words in it...

I'm from switzerland, I text in "swiss german". It's like german, but the words aren't exactly the same and there exists no dictionary -.-
[Desire Android Development] masi0:
you can try titanium backup first to backup all your apps and settings such dictionary (all backups are in titanium backup folder on sdcard) then install froyo and restore apps/data back. i am not sure but there should be something to backup dictionary as well
[Desire Android Development] barrons:
I see someone posted a voicesearch fix anyone know how i should flash this to my phone?

through recovery mode? or rom manager?

i dont want to break my phone ha
[Desire Android Development] masi0:
ye ye ye. i am using bt headset and i do have white noise as well but i have no idea if as such should be w/o using builtin speaker/headphone
[Desire Android Development] Nekromantik:
ok thanks

10char
[Desire Android Development] El Massman:
out of curiosity, this 'white noise' issue couldn't be caused by the raido could it? i'm using an orange debranded desire so can't update to the latest radio without sim locking my phone. i have no problem with white noise. none at all. would it be worth people trying to downgrade their radios and seeing if it helps? i'm using whatever comes with the stock 1.15 (i think) rom.
[Desire Android Development] masi0:
mine is ...16.02 will try to downgrade
[Desire Android Development] Simc13:
yes, same to me pls!
[Desire Android Development] bradmax57:
this has just happend to mine.... im going to wipe and reflash
[Desire Android Development] Tenhi:
Yep. auto brightness is on very low level...Fix would be great ;)...
[Desire Android Development] bradmax57:
which hasnt helped.....

Put a different rom on any my mic started working immediately, weird as 1.2 worked great, come to think about it i flashed 1.3 this morning at work and never made an actual call so it wasnt till tonight i noticed it was not working, odd that it works on 99% of others...?
[Desire Android Development] Eggcake:
A2SD+ not working for me.

Edit: Just saw the post from Paul.

Think I'll wait for a later release...still too many bugs :(

Keep it up though, getting better every day.
[Desire Android Development] tobiasthecat:
I had pretty much the exact same experience today. I flashed 1.2 the day before last and it worked fine. Flashed 1.3 last night and didn't make any calls until today but when I did, nobody could hear me. I wiped and reflashed 1.3 this evening and the mic still didn't work. I put a different rom on and the mic worked. I just tried downloading 1.3 from scratch again and wiped and reflashed that and the mic is working this time. A very odd situation and at first I thought that perhaps I downloaded the dodgy rom that was posted incorrectly last night but the rom I just downloaded is the same file size as the previous one I had.
[Desire Android Development] AdamG:
OpenDesire is now listed in RomManager for those who requested it :)
[Desire Android Development] Nekromantik:
Adam will you be putting the A2SD davlink fix onto the next version?
[Desire Android Development] AdamG:
I want to review it before I add any 3rd party scripts to it, and I will also check out the comments further made regarding the current script.

I'm going to put a bug tracking system so we can hopefully get any bugs ironed out.
[Desire Android Development] Nodders:
Read your last post. "No-one cares.." etc etc etc. I'm sure if you actually put your own effort into something like a ROM rather than just leeching off a forum then you would care a lot how your work was used. Utterly selfish "me me me" attitude from several people here, but hey - it's the internet.
[Desire Android Development] domparry:
Personally, I like the term "the interweb".
[Desire Android Development] kartoffel1212:
This Thread become a popcorn or spam image... dont know :cool:
[Desire Android Development] Fightspit:
Epic win :D
[Desire Android Development] sfjuocekr:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=755529

Please stop the blaming and claiming.
[Desire Android Development] aunder90:
Did you really just say that??? dude he made this rom, i assume your using it and thats how you treat him? that is complete lack of respect. adam didnt even bring kali- into this he decided to troll over and start **** b4 adam said anything i posted a link a few pages back. adam is mearly denying things and standing up for himself, thats all if you dont like it, go use CM?
[Desire Android Development] iinga:
Tbh this is the most united i've ever seen OD users.

We appreciate the work you CM coders have put in. You have your credit. Please go back to your own threads.
[Desire Android Development] BaGRoS:
Looking for a program running on OpenDesire. Function, select / copy / paste, such as the SenseUI.

----------------------------------------------------------------

Wysłane z mojego Desire za pomocą TapaTalk,

Pozdrawiam

BaGRoS
[Desire Android Development] sbricout:
I use adw and I get Oj issue sometimes...
[Desire Android Development] iinga:
In browser you can Menu > More > Select text - this will auto-copy selected text to clip board.
[Desire Android Development] Drefsab:
Ok I can see where you might think that, my main point of the "no-one cares" bit is in response to repeatedly saying the same thing several times over and not replying to the other question's posted about it. And yes I use the rom I also donate to the projects I like (for example the Modaco roms etc). Things have gotten blown out of proportion and the little picky points are not what joe public gives a damn about. Asking for clarification on the points of contention to try to firstly understand what the big deal is and secondly to see if there's a valid point again is not something that selfish.
[Desire Android Development] bemymonkey:
Thanks for clearing that up... thought b6rt was onto something there.
[Desire Android Development] Lars8000:
My GPS is working fine on 3.5.0
[Desire Android Development] daffie:
Clearly you don't read so well, now do you. I addressed my rant to both and all others who continue to miss-use this thread for their childish bickering back&forth. Maybe you weren't here before, but this has been going on since yesterday or even the day before that. They decided to bury the hatchet, teamed up on the kernel....and then decided to continue this BS. All I'm saying is...keep this ****e out of here, and keep the thread for what it's meant for...distributing custom rom's and discussion regarding the functioning and use of the rom...that's really all mate.

Edit : just re-stated my earlier post, as I over-reacted trying to make my point and thereby used too strong language.
[Desire Android Development] mi3x:
I think I know the issue with my CPU. I had the quadrant advanced installed that's why I got such low scores. I uninstalled it and installed standard version now I scored 1497 stock which is normal.
[Desire Android Development] iinga:
I forgot to mention, whilst at work my OJ died 2ce :( What i noticed from the battery history was that the phone didn't sleep :(
[Desire Android Development] soggydoggy:
Pre release feedback

Well not only is Android based on Linux, but it seems so are the arguments.

Ubuntu's release notes always list fixes. They don't say "thanks to the Fedora guys for that fix!", because it is OPEN SOURCE. If you publish your source, someone can and most likely will take it, reuse it and improve it. Providing they leave history intact to identify where each element came from (i.e. credit where credit is due), then they are doing nothing wrong.

Back on topic as someone posted earlier, keyboard is missing currently in OD prerelease plus patch 1 and 2. Installing SmartKeyboardPro only causes it to FC. Also, I found the ported launcher's app menu / drawer to be a bit sluggish. That seemed to be because the CPU was automatically underclocked, but when it was running at max the menu / drawer was smooth. I'd recommend setting setCPU to minumum of 8xx mhz when the screen is on to keep things running nicely.

The default google search widget looked really stretched and messed up on first boot too, had to remove it. The samsung widgets menu is empty (though that's probably pending removal I'm guessing).

Nice work on the Galaxy S portage so far. Thanks for your time and effort, the 100's of other OD users prove that you are appreciated more than some would like.
[Desire Android Development] djjef85:
Maybe someone should start a 'cat-fight thread' and have it made sticky

It's really a shame this **** is going on and that mods don't do anything about it
[Desire Android Development] scottwallacesh:
Yeah, sorry.

By 'unzip' I mean flash. I used the term 'unzip' because the Clockwork Recovery mod uses that term.

My radio version is, v32.42.00.32U_5.09.00.08.

The battery drain I refer to is the one I experienced. I think others also mentioned that they had this issue too (but I could be wrong).

Just thought I'd share my experience in case it helped others. You know, giving back to the community and all... ;)
[Desire Android Development] bemymonkey:
While I find Adam's efforts in porting software from the galaxy commendable, I'm not quite sure that this is really the right direction for a ROM with the history and reputation that OpenDesire has aquired.

I'm well aware of the fact that I'm probably starting to sound like a broken record here, but I'm sure many people here would be sad to see such an integral part of the stock Froyo experience removed from OpenDesire.

I've said it many times in the past: Why replace core functionality when you could extend it? Porting software from the Galaxy is commendable in its own right, but I'm not sure integration in a ROM that's supposed to provide a very "stock" experience is the way to go about it.

I myself would love to see certain parts of the Galaxy S software suite ported for use on the Desire, but would like to be able to pick and choose which parts I want for myself. We saw the same problem with the Motorola multitouch and htcime keyboards, where core functionality (which worked just fine btw) was removed and replaced with ported, heavily modded and, to a certain degree, buggy software.

I sincerely hope that OpenDesire continues along the path it's been on for the last two absolutely wonderful major releases, in keeping stock Android functionality across the board, but extending it with great features like ODParts, extended browser options and speed and performance tweaks, all the while providing a stable, reliable base for our own customisations (as a.part of which I would be delighted to see ported galaxy s software).
[Desire Android Development] AdamG:
Mods could do, but they are no where to be seen as this dev section is already full of so much crap that belongs in other sections.
[Desire Android Development] fstluxe:
Dear AdamG,

Wich voltage are you using @1384 MHZ?

I Can't Find that in the first 2 posts!

Best regards,

Fstluxe
[Desire Android Development] Ronaldo_9:
out of interest is any one working on the multi touch bug in desire/nexus one?
[Desire Android Development] andrewsoong:
Some might find this of use:

Any pheedo.com feeds for Podcasts aren't able to play in Google Listen. If you remove the pheedo stuff from the hosts file then they connect fine.
[Desire Android Development] fstluxe:
The Only line i Can FInd=

{ 1305600, CCTL(CLK_TCXO, 1), SRC_SCPLL, 0x1F, 0, 1325 },

Wich is Overvolted so How much volt is the 1384 I really Lik to know howmuch Volt my CPU = getting....
[Desire Android Development] iinga:
1325mV @ 1382MHz

Stock is 1300mV

In the current kernel, all frequencies under 1267MHz are undervolted. 1267 is 1300mV
[Desire Android Development] dnlgee:
Pheedo url is included due to the nature of their site's, ad tracking.
[Desire Android Development] andrewsoong:
IGN use it for their podcasts. I can't go without listening to Greg Miller on the way to work! Luckily it's easy enough to get around I suppose.
[Desire Android Development] charon72:
Woot. At max oc.. :p

1843 New Personal record.
[Desire Android Development] MacCarron:
I see your point..bickering and fighting over who changed this or that string of code is mature by these standards of yours I guess..well let me tell you something oh wise grown-up: if someone releases something free of charge, just for people to enjoy, he should not care how said content is used provided it remains within legality. It is not me the one who is being childish, it is those developers that deep down argue and fight over jealousy and will to be "famous". Yes, that's the bottom line. But apparently you haven't figured this out yet. Let's not dwell on that "humiliate yourself"..LOL. People have a remarkable way of not focusing on the matter at hand and waste their grown-up "wisdom" on those who say things the way they are without fusses or soft words. Because "it's impolite".
[Desire Android Development] fstluxe:
Thank You!.. I Didn't know it was that much overVolterd :)..