yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus One General] Marine6680:
This is nonsensical but I found it amusing...

"...the difference between Android people and iPhone people.... Android people rip the phone from the box...the box isn't an event...the phone is...."

This was an IM my GF just sent. She had watched an unboxing video of the iPhone last night, and then saw the "hands on" video (that had an unboxing) of the Droid X over on Android Community. I had sent her the link because she is going to tell her Aunt about it, she has her own business and is looking for a new phone. Me and the GF both have N1, I have started to convert her into a bit of a fangirl. :D She is a graphic design student at AI, so Mac (and by extension the iPhone) is everywhere. She likes to show off the N1 and all the things it can do to the iPhone people. I hope the N2 (if it ever gets made) blows the other guys (like the droid x) out of the water. I love having the devices that are "google's baby" getting features and updates first is always good. ;)

Edit:

HAHA she also just made a comment... its the difference between prissy people, teens and yuppie types vs true 80s kids... Ah the 80s... when the art of the electronic/digital and putting buttons on everything first hit its stride. :cool:

The videos:

This

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06gQgVAibkA&feature=player_embedded#!

vs This (scroll down first video)

http://androidcommunity.com/droid-x-hands-on-first-impressions-video-20100623/
[Nexus One General] yayramen:
This makes me insanely happy. And I agree. Who gives a darn about the box? Show me some RAM and a snapdragon, and I'm ecstatic. I <3 my nexus. Idk where my box even is...
[Nexus One General] clickwir:
I think that's the great part about Android... if you want to be prissy about it and just use it the way it was purchased and never deviate from the way it was meant to be used when you got it (read: like the iphone) then that's fine, you can. BUT, you also have the option of doing what you want with it. Backgrounds, sounds, different interfaces... etc etc etc etc etc etc. It just goes on and on. If you WANT to do more, you can, but you don't have to. That's the beauty of Android.
[Nexus One General] TheMuffinMan616:
All this aside, I do have to mention that the N1 box is quite sexy IMO.
[Nexus One General] musashiken:
Lol, yeah it's sexy as hell, still that didn't stop those ninjas from tearing it apart.
[Nexus One General] Marine6680:
True, I still have mine put up somewhere, mostly because I keep these things just in case. I sold my G1 and stuffed it back in its original box.

That was good. :D
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] SuperMiguel:
I have a rooted my touch 3g... Whats the best RDP program for android??
[Omnia II General] tedkord:
I just bought an unused Omnia II i920 off Ebay - It should be here in a week or so. So, I'd like to know...what ROM do you think is the best?

As some background, I'm coming from the i910. I'm currently using Lioryte's latest, with Titanium turned off and SPB MS3.5 with Mskip's enhancements. It's a thing of beauty, and took the Omnia from virtually unuseable to awesome. (I was formerly a huge Evidence/Bgill fan - his ROMs were rock solid! Hated losing him.)

This is how I'd planned to run the O2 - MS3.5. But, the Sense ROMs look pretty nice, too.

Lemme know, folks. I know there aren't many O2 owners here, but I also know that any here are striving to make the phone work to it's fullest potential. These are the type of folks I want advice from!
[Omnia II General] amdzero:
Man thats tough to say. I mean Ninja makes some AWESOME roms, I just don't like using 6.5

I have made a few and currently my favorite is the Sense 2.5 rom.

Just my 2 cents.

(BTW there are a BUNCH of us on MoDaCo)
[Omnia II General] tedkord:
I know, I've been an i910 Modaco member for a while. There just doesn't seem to be much activity in the i920 forum over there.
[Omnia II General] Coguar:
hi, I m 2 owner of omnia 2 and still doesent know how to upgrade my phone to offical latest rom, software say its allready latest, but i know that is Windows mobile 6.5 21863 build
[Nexus One General] NexuGsx:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/06/24/droid-x-internal-files-leaked-boot-screen-and-keyboard-ports-follow/

Droid X has been dumped! I guess we'll see what comes out of it.
[Nexus One General] El Daddy:
Sweet downloading now. Hopefully that multi-touch IME will work!

Thanks!
[Nexus One General] El Daddy:
No dice on the multi touch keyboard. At least at its current state. :(
[Nexus One General] El Daddy:
I pulled all of the wallpapers. Anyone have a site I can upload them to?
[Nexus One General] Enndr:
Im using the droid x keyboard, wallpaper and sounds on my N1 right now with no issues.

Edit: this is the best keyboard i've ever used on my nexus one. Hands down.
[Nexus One General] th0r615:
From what I understand the Multi-touch keyboard works on 2.1 but not 2.2 :(
[Nexus One General] alexland:
edit: posted above me answered
[Nexus One General] El Daddy:
I found the keyboard mod. Just wish the vibrate function was working!

It is still pretty awesome though!
[Nexus One General] Wisefire:
Any new, motorola, live wallpapers on this?
[Nexus One General] bedwa:
Actually what I would want to see is porting of the codecs to an n1 rom.
[Nexus One General] Wisefire:
El Daddy, How did you get the keyboard to work?
[Nexus One General] diversificationied:
Multi touch keyboard works, sans the vibrate

FM app also runs........

You just can't get actual reception, lol.
[Nexus One General] pvillasuso:
FM Radio .apk installed and runnig , but still no sound ,and some missing touch options ! :D

Maybe a dev with the Knowledge can to take a look @ the code ... and make it happen ! :eek:

ps. please move this >> Nexus One Android Development Section
[Nexus One General] tibere86:
+1

I'm running FRF83 2.2 and keyboard installs without issue but force closes on me when I try to use it.
[Nexus One General] Wisefire:
I can't get the keyboard to install.

Running 2.2 FRF83.
[Nexus One General] El Daddy:
I found it in the apps forum http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6938202&postcount=48

All credit goes to Daneshm90 for modding it to run on the N1.

Note: vibrate doesn't work ATM

Edit: I'm running ERE27 BTW. I just got my N1 back from HTC today for a power button fix and I havent updated my sig. They reverted me back to Eclair. :(

Sorry for the confusion...
[Nexus One General] Wisefire:
Ah. Yeah I got it installed but it force closes.
[Nexus One General] DMaverick50:
any apps in there worth trying?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chites:
I downloaded and installed the rom and everything appears to install correct however I have traces of the HTC Sense left on my phone... The dialer, the message, the people, the calendar, etc... are all still HTC icons and apps. I have the new stuff installed like super user, wireless tether and dev tools but this rom is supposed to be HTC sense free. Before I installed I performed a factory wipe and partition wipe but I think I missed something. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thx in advance.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adrynalyne:
The launcher is gone. Otherwise, Sense is still there.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chites:
I thought this rom had sense removed completely. I really dislike sense and was thinking this was a vanilla rom. There are a couple screen captures floating around and they dont have any sense visable in them. Hmmmm.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rynosaur:
There are obviously more themed builds that are floating around for beta test. Just wait, I'm sure Froyo 2.2 will be ported fairly soon. If not, I'll learn to dev myself :)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DMaverick50:
I'm only talking about with google maps. And i cant remember if its always been like this; After you zoom in or zoom out there's an annoying adjustment it zooms further and it doesn't end up at the zoom level at which it was when you removed your fingers. I guess whats happening is that when u pinch the phone has to load the image that you zoomed too.

Sue me but my main comparison is with my friends stupid iPhone 3g. When I pinch, I remove my fingers and that's where it stays. Its like it loads the map and i zoom in or out whereas the nexus loads only the map at a certain focus and any adjustments require it to load that level. I dont know im sure thats a horrible description im just wondering if this is a general issue. My nexus is stock am I the only one?

edit: its not that i want an iphone its just that its a good example of how the app should work. Particularly since its a google app on a google phone
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chronopc:
Shhhh.... don't mention Apple. You want to get sued?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TwoBurger:
I'm running the latest stock Froyo and I just noticed the same problem. It's almost like it has it's own pre-determined zoom levels and it just zooms out or in to whichever one is closer, not to the exact zoom level you pinched to.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DMaverick50:
exactly, really damn annoying. its a google app on a google phone, should get better in time i hope
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] spiderx_mm:
I still cannot find a support forum for my phone Motorola Milestone XT720 (aka Motoroi). Can XDA make a forum?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] nikmash232:
This forum is for phones made by HTC. Go check out Modmymoto.com
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] spiderx_mm:
are you saying that all the phone currently listed here are made by HTC?? including Motorola Droid/Milestone, Droid X and Microsoft KIN? I hope not.

I know that XDA used to be HTC support forum. I've owned a HTC Touch 3G once and I can find a lot of support from XDA. But currently, XDA is expending it's mobile Database since they added SonyEricsson Experia X1.

C'mon buddy, open your eye and have a look around in the forum. Then come back here to say it's HTC only or not.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] SiL3nTKiLL:
yeah itd be nice to see a forum expansion for certain phones
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] spiderx_mm:
Admins, we're having more and more users using Milestone XT720. Are we gonna have a forum soon?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] lambstone:
Do some research first please. XDA has some non-htc phones over here but almost all the phones here are manufactured by HTC (including sony experia. HTC is the oem)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] spiderx_mm:
"Almost" does not means "all". I knew from the start that SE Xperia hardware is made by HTC. But if there is Droid/ Droid X and Milestone, then Milestone XT also deserve a place in this forum. That's my point.
[HD2 General] flyingscouser:
So i have a o2 htc hd2 that i unlocked the other day, so i can use it while i am in america, now i used my gf's sim card and it works fine in the phone, so i got my own sim card, but there is no radio signal, do i need to flash a new radio rom for it to work in the us?

thanks

Oliver
[Hero, G2 Touch General] mobydeek:
"Admittedly, this isn't a problem that exists only for the iPhone 4 -- we've seen reports of the same behavior on previous generations (the 3G and 3GS), and there is a running thread about this problem with the Nexus One."

taken from http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/24/apple-responds-over-iphone-4-reception-issues-youre-holding-th/

So i decided to do a pathetic test on my Hero. I remebered from a YouTube vid on the Legend that the antenna was in the "chin" area.

Hero on desk: 4 bars of reception (full)

Wrapped hands around chin of Hero: 1 or 2 bar(s) of reception :eek:

Since noone has mentioned it b4, its probably a non-issue, but i do get quite a few dropped calls.

Just wondering if my dropped calls are connected to this? Or maybe T-Mo is just crap in my area. :D
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ddotpatel:
Indeed the reception does drop considerably when holding the chin! .... I wish you hadn't told me now!!!

I'll have to see how it affects calls tomorrow. I'll report back.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] MentalDeath:
my bars dont change =S
[Hero, G2 Touch General] bellor:
You have to really cover the chin with your hand. Just touching the chin with the lower side of the hand is not enough. Also you have to wait about 10 seconds.

Thething is though, that you have to want to do this on the Hero. On the iphone 4 it happens when you are simply touching the gap with naked skin... especially when damp. This just seems to me like bad engineering. And the stuff about the Legend or the iphone 2g having bad reception is just silly... also in the engadget article. That is a fact of physics which you have to deal with when you want a phone built like a tank. It a completely different story when saying this happened on a phone which has this design flaw on a component meant to strengthen the signal reception. This is just bad engineering.

Sent from my HTC Hero
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Wezternator:
Every phone will lose signal if you cover the area where the antenna is. I have never noticed any dropped calls etc on Orange UK and the signal is pretty crap around here
[EVO 4G General] Mast3rpyr0:
There definitely needs to be at least a 20 post limit before making a new topic in the dev forum. I have seen many useless threads about issues that dont really exist and questions that should be in the Q&A section by people with 1-3 posts. I doubt anyone below 20 posts is going to contribute anything useful(hell i say 100, but im being nice) to the dev section, and even if they do, who is going to trust flashing something from a new user? Posting in currently open threads should not be limited, just creating new topics. Any opposed?
[EVO 4G General] donatom3:
I think the developer section should be read only unless you're approved.
[EVO 4G General] trentlythp:
Coming from a guy with less than 20 posts I agree. I don't post a lot as you can tell but when I want to look to see if there is anything new out on the development side I get tired of seeing useless post that should be here or in Q&A. I think a post requirement would lower the useless threads

Sent via the Sprint HTC EVO
[EVO 4G General] kennyc1:
same here.
[EVO 4G General] k2snowboards88:
deleted because I didn't read the title properly.
[EVO 4G General] wildgillis:
I agree

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[EVO 4G General] Mast3rpyr0:
Just look at how better organized the dev section is for the nexus. Im not saying they shouldnt be able to post at all, just not create new topics.

Nexus dev forum: http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=559
[EVO 4G General] k2snowboards88:
I disagree, I think that posting a new topic in the development forum should be restricted somehow. Maybe by invite that is easy to apply for and easier to lose. If it were restricted by post count, we could be alienating new devs from other sites or phones. I think that topic starters in the development forum should be able to lock out non-developers from commenting if they want also. Its very frustrating to me (not a developer) when I am trying to read a development thread and its full of people making dumb comments or 300 posts thanking the developer while I'm trying to read the thread for something useful.
[EVO 4G General] trentlythp:
Valid point...

Sent via the Sprint HTC EVO
[EVO 4G General] lostinroot:):
Its all about trying to get your post count higher in order to make yourself look good.haha.......

I do agree on some kind of restriction, but how is one supose to get a post count of 20 if you cant post.
[EVO 4G General] Mast3rpyr0:
Thing is, the board is able to do builtin post minimum blocking i believe. It cant do the other fancy application things and what not.

And you can always post everywhere else.
[EVO 4G General] ramiss:
I really agree with this. There are plenty of people with good ideas who only bother to register when they have something interesting to share.

It might also be worthwhile to create a few sub-forums under the development forum. For example: one for ROMs, one for known fixes and one for fixes under development.

Richard
[EVO 4G General] ramiss:
So are you suggesting that a new member with a worthwhile development idea should post in the General forum?
[EVO 4G General] blakejohnson86:
I agree under one condition... If I'm approved. :-P
[EVO 4G General] Holyrolla:
I agree.

I would also suggest that there be a panel established for "Jr. Members" to prove themselves worthy of posting in the dev section. That would enable devs new to the forum to have a voice and post worthwhile thoughts. The rest of us can just sit back and read!
[EVO 4G General] Mast3rpyr0:
I mean if you want to flash something made by someone with 2 posts then go head, but i most certainly will not. 20 posts was not hard at all, even without just posting crap. All you gotta do is find a few threads your interested in and post a few things in them and you got em.
[EVO 4G General] Freelancerx:
i agree the op should have mini admin powers to basically lock out people who are offering no help or productivity to the thread. of course it has to be approved by a real admin, you know like if i started a development thread and someone posted something stupid i could flag that user and ask an admin to basically make it so i have to approve their posts...it wouldn't create more work for admins it would make more work for the original poster, BUT if the original poster felt that these people are actually doing a disservice to their thread then i would imagine they would put in the time to edit out the dumb posts.
[EVO 4G General] Jye75:
As you said, 20 posts is not hard to reach... yet that somehow would qualify a poster to then be able to post in the Dev area??? Fuzzy logic there. I don't think post count should matter one way or another, it's just another way to discriminate against people for no reason. What says that the more posts you have, the more important your contributions to the community? Nothing.

I do agree that I most likely would not flash a rom that was posted up by a new member, unless I really just wanted to test and had nothing to lose. Many people here have more than one device and can flash without worrying about interrupting their phone service.

Bottom line, someone could have 500 posts, with nothing real to contribue inside of those posts, and later, post a lame rom that isn't worth the time it takes to flash it. Whereas, another user could only have 1 post to say hello, and be very savvy in the dev arena, who happens to post up a kickass rom that everyone wants. Post count shouldn't be a determining factor.
[EVO 4G General] pseudoremora:
Not true.

The implication is that since you have more posts, (200 +, IMO), one should be familiar with what questions to ask, the manner in which to ask them, and be able to understand the answer given. That said; I know there *some* people with high post counts that may not be as "technical" or knowledgeable, though there input is just as valid as anyone else's (if you really don't want to discriminate). Conversely, I've seen people with 20 posts who have made great contributions as well, technical or not.

In regards to this thread, I think the way XDA does its moderation is fine. Though it would be nice to have have restrictions on new users, one of the major reasons why we shouldn't is because, you can't gauge a new user's level of skill/knowledge via there post count, but rather what they contribute.

Sure the majority of new users may not know anything about Android or be technical, but often, when a new phone comes out (like the EVO) there have been "new users" who come from other Android forums (SDX, AC, PPG, etc) and contribute right off the bat (first post even -- e.g. Calkulin, Joeykrim, etc) because they were top developers in there respective previous forums; however not many people would know that and right away asssume that there initial posts may not be as credible as someone with 200+ posts. My point is gauging the level of "knowledge, technical skill, etc" based on ones post count isn't really reliable, rather people should focus there attention on what the OP's has to say about the topic at hand and his/her contributions overall.

I see no reason to limit new users, especially with a forum such as this one, where a new users

curiosity

is thriving to get answers and ask questions because they want to see what his/her new Android phone is capable of. We were all in the same boat at one point, we probably Googled "How to root the "X" and XDA was the first on the list, thus the reason for us being here now.

Open Source means contribution by whomever (technical user or non-technical user) it shouldn't matter. Whatever can better this community to allow each individual to get the best experience out of his/her device, is what the aim should be. Ultimately however, it would be nice if the person who has received something also contribute back to the community in some way or another, creating an endless cycle of new and ever changing questions, answers, ideas, and contributions for us all.
[EVO 4G General] Jye75:
Yes, one would HOPE that this implication holds true, however, since it's not a guaranteed truth, it doesn't stand to reason that post count should be the qualifying factor in deciding if one could post or not. As far as the rest of your post goes, you and I are on the same page.
[EVO 4G General] nenn:
is it possible to have a rating system on this forum? or to at least cut down on the thanks replies, have a thanks button thats just a counter or a list of usernames?

id rather see a block of usernames for thanks, than 10 pages.
[EVO 4G General] MagnusRagnarok:
Pseudoremora!!!!where have you been:D your point is the one i agree with most, although there have been many other valid points posted. I have some other points to add from my experience starting many threads and posting in many others.

1.)thread starters should have mini-admin rights. 100%. i have had so many ppl post with ignorant negative comments, that are not beneficial or helpful in any way to improve my work thereby improving the user experience. Why should those comments even be dignified with the respect of being seen by other members when all it starts is off -topic negativity. give op power to remove, just not to edit. that would be perfect, and also mods would not have to be called in to get rid of trolls. I for one am a man and i like to handle things for myself.

2.)We should get points or rep for contributions. we could level up like an rpg:D, level cap 170:Djk btw. this way the pps that put in time and effort to make the site a place with more options than any other android site around(which should be encouraged here i beleive since this IS the most highly rated android dev site PERIOD)make ppl aware of those who "put in work" and you cant help but take that into consideration, and if you dont, you dont deserve to be here in the first place....

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[EVO 4G General] pseudoremora:
Hey man! I've been here the entire time actually. Mostly in the bootanimation thread, created some new ones and I've been helping a lot of people with theres and modding others to work on our EVO's. Nice job by the way on your ROM's... sorry I was never able to lend you a hand, just go so damn caught up in everything else I'm doing. I see you've learned quite a few new things since we last talked.