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[Nexus One General] mlinz:
Android dev's at google most likely use T-Mobile service (free) for their Nexus Ones. That's also what all of the media units are and most likely all the ones they have given away for free as different events. Seems only likely that they would push these internal test builds out to phones that all of their employees can use easily.

Once it's final though I would imagine the difference in builds between the two/three versions of the phone would be very minimal.
[Nexus One General] ztm.000:
Hahah that's hella funny.
[Nexus One General] DPUVince:
Thanks!! I will check it out tonight and let you know what happens .

UPDATE

when trying to revert back to stock erd79 it says "main version is older!" when trying to passimg.zip the stock rom

loading passdiag.zip

no image found

loading passdiag.nhh

no image found.
[Nexus One General] :
At the rate things are developing, I'm inclined to believe CM froyo will come before Google's Nexus froyo.

Which is actually pretty cool.
[Nexus One General] JetBlk:
I'm starting to believe this too man
[Nexus One General] zcold:
nooooo!!!

You must not loose hope... I think with our EPE54B collective mind we can somehow magically get froyo on our phones...
[Nexus One General] jmorgan6:
im just going to do this tutorial:

http://www.ianbmacdonald.com/wordpress/2010/06/04/n1-froyo-from-gui
[Nexus One General] DPUVince:
when trying to revert back to stock erd79 it says "main version is older!" when trying to passimg.zip the stock rom
[Nexus One General] GenesysLV:
Will the real Froyo please stand up:

http://www.google.com/support/forum...b9&hl=en&fid=6af6f6a6211473b9000489ccde04e388
[Nexus One General] :
Lol, people intentionally yank updates that weren't meant for public release and the ***** about it their ambiguity?

It's like *****ing about the movie you torrented being too shaky.
[Nexus One General] joshlusignan:
I always like yelling at the guy that gets up during my torrented movies...makes it feel like Im really there.
[Nexus One General] GenesysLV:
It's really about the Silence from google.
[Nexus One General] nexusdue:
yes. true.
[Nexus One General] :
What do they have to respond to? Froyo was JUST cut yesterday. Why would they have to respond to people using builds that were not meant for the outside?

They've already clarified twice (50/72) that those builds weren't for consumption, something they didn't have to do.

Do you guys want a press release everytime Google recompiles a new internal build or something?

The open source part of froyo is complete as far as google is concerned. They are now finalizing PROPRIETARY Nexus updates.
[Nexus One General] nexusdue:
Yes. A press release with an actual date for the OTA would be nice. Maybe also include links for the manual update?

PS: Open source is no reason to run the programming effort like amateur night.
[Nexus One General] :
Uh, the open source portion regarding froyo is done. Everyone is just awaiting the nexus specific update.

Why would Google post a link to manually update to an internal build that was leaked?

(PS your "manual update link" can be found under: Menu > Settings > About Phone > System Update).
[Nexus One General] erikiksaz:
Some of you folks need to stop acting so goddamn entitled.

Google doesn't owe you a damn thing. You bought the device with 2.1. Anything after that is a bonus. It's free. Free--as in you didn't pay a dime for it. So please shut up, the impatience is unbelievable.
[Nexus One General] clickwir:
No. It'll be released when it's ready. Pushing things out the door to meet a deadline and not having a good product is bad business. Android is too big to push out the door just to appease some deadline freaks.

Don't forget that Android's biggest competition is Apple, Apple wouldn't let you do a manual update. They'd push it to you when it's good and ready. Also, most people (read: over 90%) of users aren't fiending for an update and it would just confuse things if there was a manual update.
[Nexus One General] stinkypete:
I'm not inpatient I can wait with the rest of you without moaning. I live in the UK and expect the OTA to longer hence I'm going to update it myself.

But erikikaz you are wrong to think google don't owe us updates. I brought the N1 one the grounds that they will be constantly improving the firmware, so stop writing stupid comments like the one above.
[Nexus One General] speedbreaker:
anyone having issues downloading market apps after installing paqs rooted frf83? they just don't download for me!
[Nexus One General] rheza02:
Its fixed now.
[Nexus One General] Erigion:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't they been "constantly" improving the firmware? N1 users got an update for 2.1 and are first in line for 2.2, if they haven't already manually updated to one of the leaked versions. And unless Google comes out with the Nexus Two before Gingerbread I think we'll be first in line for that too.

Android is an OS, it's not a Valve game that gets updated with shiny new DLC every week or month. Most computer OSes don't get a major feature update for years and the big mobile OSes get one what? I know iOS gets one once a year. No idea about Symbian or the Blackberry OS.

Android is going to get TWO major OS upgrades this year and we're first in line for both. I think it's not too much to ask that we give Google some time to work out the last few details.
[Nexus One General] :
Wrong, I bought a phone from them, that makes me.... like vice president at Google or something .

Where is that Vic, I want his head on a plate for all this nonsense!
[Nexus One General] SoberGuy:
No, mine came with the Vice President title. You can, like, be my assistant or something.
[Nexus One General] Erigion:
So people who bought it outright are VPs and people who bought it subsidized from T-Mobile are what? The help?
[Nexus One General] erikiksaz:
Key word here, take note. YOU bought the N1 on those grounds. Those grounds were never a selling point as dictated by Google. If they were, I'd love to see where they explicitly stated it.
[Nexus One General] j.bruha:
No really, he is 100% correct. If the phone was problematic and did not function as described when sold to you, then yes, Nexus One owners would be entitled to a proper firmware update to correct those problems, and even then it would still be entirely at Google's discretion. Google didn't promise you updates when you bought it. It just so happens that Android is a very active and ever-improving platform. Everything they've added thus far has been additional functionality on top of what the phone originally came with.

When's the last time you got a call from your car dealer offering to improve your vehicle at no charge? Sure, they'll fix the recalls for free, but that's the same as fixing bugs in the OS.
[Nexus One General] xguntherc:
I read the actual OTA file is much larger than this little FRF50 to 83, or FRF72 to FRF83 1.8 or 1.78mb file we are all updating to..

Basically I read somewhere that the official OTA is larger, but is that only because I already had most of Froyo with FRF50.. or will we all end up updating again to the final. or is this the final?

we all still dont' know for sure, or what?
[Nexus One General] j.bruha:
Hope everything's okay with your health!

I just tried this new file and got a new error on a different line this time. The error message came when it was finishing flashing boot and it did NOT say it was out of memory this time.

Is there anything I can do to fix this myself, or is this something that would require a hardware fix, ie HTC replacement?

Edit: Just noticed it shows I AM running FRF83 in the About page. Go figure. Pending any problems, I'll just revisit all this when Gingerbread comes out, if necessary.
[Nexus One General] NexusDro:
Google technically does owe as a proper firmware update. For example, they promised that the Nexus One will have a tricolor trackball (http://www.google.com/phone/static/en_US-nexusone_tech_specs.html) but it's been 6 months and it hasn't yet happened unless we root. The specs list also says that the phone has 512 MB RAM but we all know that the stock Eclair only uses half of it.
[Nexus One General] slowz3r:
i totally forgot about the 512MB of RAM the Nexus has! lol *head desk*
[Nexus One General] paulthepwner:
I don't disagree. With you, but I can name at least one other major Linux distro that sticks very firmly to 6 month intervals for major releases...Ubuntu.
[Nexus One General] vomer:
Still no OTA here :(
[Nexus One General] khaytsus:
Fedora too, unless you consider 1-2 week slips max not "firmly 6 month intervals"
[Nexus One General] McHale:
there won't be. Idiots with websites are wrong when they report this is the official OTA. It's not. We're looking at a couple more weeks yet.

-Mc
[Nexus One General] clickwir:
Ladies and gentlemen...

Yo, Just wanted to let you all know my N1 that was stock -> FRF50 -> FRF72 has

not

received an OTA yet. I just did a checkin.

I have the FRF72-to-FRF83 or whatever, update.zip file... but I'll wait for The Goog.

I know you were all just dying to know, so now you can sleep better at night. :D
[Nexus One General] :
Bookmark this post, I'm a fortune teller

The following will happen:

The next official update for the Nexus one will be build FRF83. Anybody who has anything lower will receive an update and a build number change, updated gapss, and updated applications.

Anybody already on the leaked FRF83 will receive an update that will not change the build number, but it will include update gapps, and updated applications.

The build number does not reflect the device update, but the point in time that AOSP code is pulled.
[Nexus One General] musashiken:
Didn't you also predicted once that the next update after FRF72 was FRF75?
[Nexus One General] McHale:
How much you wanna bet? Have you talked to any Google techs or reps?

Didn't you also predict that the update is going on right now?
[Nexus One General] :
Nope, I was letting people what the current working build was. =) Not all builds are pushed out to test.

edit: I just remember, everyone was claiming 72 as final froyo, I confirmed it wasn't because they had moved to 75 by then.

I didn't say the update is going right now, what I said is this weekend will see it being pushed out.
[Nexus One General] McHale:
is that a guess? I'm betting it won't (also a guess BTW). Too much tells me that FRF83 is still not ready for prime time and several on the Google support forum have stated that they called Google and heard they're still ironing out bugs.

-Mc
[Nexus One General] :
Device specific updates can happen without changing the build number.
[Nexus One General] clickwir:
I'm guessing the next update after 72 was 73, we just didn't see it. :D:D:D:p:p:p
[Nexus One General] faizalmzain:
it depends on your current build. They won't push OTA as a whole ROM. My other phone is nokia, for FOTA update, they will push the updated file only, not the whole firmware, that's the point of FOTA i guess.
[Nexus One General] GldRush98:
Location: B.F.E. Illinois

haha, I live in Taylorville IL (by Springfield). You around here?
[Nexus One General] GldRush98:
Patently false.

FRF83 and 4.04 play perfectly fine together. I am running the exact combination with NO issues.
[Nexus One General] j.bruha:
You're right. Better get your lawyer on the phone. This is critical. :rolleyes:

Is there some other company that is updating their phones more frequently that you're using to compare? If so, please let me know. As a former Symbian and iPhone user for many years, Android is doing significantly better than they are.
[Nexus One General] McHale:
by Ottawa, IL.

BTW, I'm about ready to pull the trigger on Cyanogen's Froyo rom when it's released. In the Google thread someone called Google and they stated that the AT&T N1 won't be getting the update for quite some time (much later than the T-Mobile version). :(

-Mc
[Nexus One General] SoberGuy:
If true (call me skeptical) I'll be joining you on that list of those who are patient...but not patient enough to wait til year's end.

Sent from my Sexy Nexy, courtesy of the fine developers of Tapatalk
[Nexus One General] irishrally:
The froyo radio has been the best for me so far and I didn't notice radio improvements with other radio updates nearly as much as the update to froyo radio.
[Nexus One General] NexusDro:
That's not relevant to what I said. I was trying to show that erikikaz is not 100% correct according to what you said. You can call me nitpicking. However, since we are in the Nexus One forum, how many updates we get from Google? One so far :P

OT: I'm excited about this update! :)
[Nexus One General] vomer:
If true I am going the cyano way... the only reason I have not rooted is to stay under warranty just in case something goes wrong.
[Nexus One General] McHale:
same here. My N1 is the only phone I haven't cooked ROMS for and customized the crap out of it.

I'm going to wait until the official OTA starts to drop. We'll know everything we need to know whenever that is. If AT&T doesn't get it at the same time, I'm gonna root and go nuts. I always planned to do it, I just wanted to experience the Google experience. So far it hasn't been that good.
[Nexus One General] blt51:
sigh...

i had these fears considering all the test builds weren't for us.

no love for epe54b :(
[Nexus One General] McHale:
here's the $20 question:

WHY?!

There has to be a reason. We already know that the AT&T version can take the T-Mobile version's radio and the entire ROM. So what could possibly be the reason. EPE54B isn't just for AT&T but Rogers and other carriers as well. Can AT&T's suck factor reach that far or is it a real hardware issue?

Or is Google just being a bunch of dicks?
[Nexus One General] :
The CM mod is leaps and bounds above stock, as for why the att will take so long....ahem

edit:

I would also like to make a side note to anyone complaining about "I paid $600 dollars and Google won't give me my updates".

Go look at the N900.....they KILLED the maemo OS that it runs after 8 months or so.
[Nexus One General] MENDEH:
i know this post (by a google employee) was made back at the end of may but it would indicate that the gap between the t-mobile and at&t update shouldnt be that far apart.

taken from http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=6fe002a637858b44&hl=en
[Nexus One General] amaectpo:
Epe76 ---> frf83

Please help me and others with the same problem, we are many.

How do I upgrade from EPE76 to FRF83, without root and unlock, with stuck Nexus One.

I want to keep warranty, do not want root and do unlock.

Sorry for my English
[Nexus One General] Cloudscout:
Here is a link to the post from the guy who called Google. This is somewhat infuriating to me as I specifically bought my N1 3 weeks ago because Google promised the Froyo update within a few weeks.
[Nexus One General] AvengerBB:
That doesn't make sense to me, since some with the AT&T version have also claimed to get the update. Why would the carrier matter anyway? Anyway, it's all speculation right now. We'll all find out soon enough.
[Nexus One General] McHale:
the carrier doesn't matter. As far as Google is concerned, they offer a couple different variants which cover different frequencies - nothing more. I'm still skeptical on a couple people saying they went from stock EPE54B to EFE83. One guy's 1st post was that and the rest had low post counts. Nobody has been able to provide a link to that update.

Google has a near riot on their hands at their own forums so I have a feeling this weekend will be the tell - either OTA or a response.

-Mc
[Nexus One General] :
no...he stated that was the next build
[Nexus One General] abuzeyad:
I am still having the ship update erd79. i do not recive any update yet even for ere27. is there a way to get the update
[Nexus One General] reaper1412:
No Luck with my EPF30 build :(
[Nexus One General] Rusty!:
Yes, it's simple.

Manually update to ERE27, then FRF50 and lastly FRF83.
[Nexus One General] logger:
So wrt to the misleading thread title "Froyo OTA finally", I think is is fair to say...

There is currently No Eclair to Froyo OTA occurring!
[Nexus One General] Wiggz:
I disagree.....whilst I'm not entirely sure of the makeup of the OTA rumoured to be circulating, there definitely is one.

It might however be an OTA for the "privileged few" who got the Froyo release earlier last month and not a general release.
[Nexus One General] logger:
Thats just the point. A pre-requisite for the OTA that is floating around seems to be, to already have a Froyo version installed. So therefore it is not a Eclair to Froyo OTA intended for the general public.

So if a user has a stock standard N1, and is running stock standard Eclair, there is no OTA update (at present) that will automatically update it to Froyo.
[Nexus One General] Wiggz:
Ahh yes - I take your point now and agree. Not a public release from Eclair at all.
[Nexus One General] logger:
Yeah no probs. Just the thread title gets ones hopes up. I shall go back to waiting patiently for the real deal.
[Nexus One General] Neemo:
There have been a few reports of OTA for stock 2.1 update-1.
[Nexus One General] rohandhruva:
None of which have been confirmed with official links from Google
[Nexus One General] pfmiller:
Those reports are right up there with the few reports of Elvis' at 7-11's in Tulsa and reports of rectal probing aliens in Roswell.
[Nexus One General] dronarg:
:D:D:D:D:D:D
[Nexus One General] SoberGuy:
You're skeptical about the reports of going from 54B to 83 (as am I), yet you're willing to believe 1 post from a guy who says Google told him something... I see no logical evidence to support either claim. I'm just as skeptical about us having to wait til year's end.

Sent from my Sexy Nexy, courtesy of the fine developers of Tapatalk
[Nexus One General] McHale:
I'm skeptical because there's only been ONE guy after all this time when we know a slew of people got the incremental updates. Nevermind the fact we don't have a URL.

As far as believing the people that called, I don't assume if they did or not that the other person they supposedly talked to knew what they were talking about. They generally don't. I was just passing on info.

I'm sticking to my, "unless I see an official link from google from stock 2.1 to FRF83 or I get the upgrade myself, I don't believe it" until I start seeing a BUNCH of people making the same claim.

I'd have to think that if the OTA was rolling out, Google would announce it. There's no way they wouldn't.

-Mc
[Nexus One General] bigmout:
I feel precisely the same way, McHale.
[Nexus One General] SoberGuy:
In large part I agree. I just don't see a need to point out one guy making a claim that has no evidence to support it. I'm right there with you: hopefully we get 54B to 83, and if not I'm willing to go CM.

Sent from my Sexy Nexy, courtesy of the fine developers of Tapatalk
[Nexus One General] tjsimmons:
Lookit, I live in Tulsa. We don't even have 7-11s. So those reports have been greatly exaggerated. Elvis is actually living at my house.
[Nexus One General] McHale:
Damn man, he's 75 or 76 years old - WELL past the point of being a good musician. He probably needs round the clock care now. Time to put that guy in a NURSING HOME!
[Nexus One General] paulthepwner:
maybe tjsimmons runs a nursing home :-p
[Nexus One General] velenox:
Hello guys,

i haven't read the whole thread because I'm following "the never ending" support request on the google support page, and if I'm not mistaken I've seen here guys that are also following that support request (on the google support page I'm Venomous).

I want ask here the same question, how is possible that most of the tech news websites are reporting the *hoax* of the ota update, when now we know for sure that there is no one OTA update?
[Nexus One General] McHale:
the people running the tech news sites are enthusiasts like you and I. Some lack good judgement and jump to conclusions. We seriously go through this EVERY time an update drops.

If you want to know when the OTA is official, don't forget that Google will announce the OTA on http://www.google.com/press/ when it starts. THEN you'll know to charge that sucker up and get your logcat ready.
[Nexus One General] bigmout:
Google bought off the press with free phones and early updates. As far as the press is concerned, there is no problem.
[Nexus One General] pfmiller:
It's inevitable that whenever the media report on something that you know a lot about, you realize just how terrible 90% of them are. And that's just for the professional media. With bloggers the percent of actual good reporting is sadly far worse. The blogosphere and twitter are all one huge echo chamber of useless opinions and baseless rumors.
[Nexus One General] velenox:
OK, but what will happen when everyone will know that all the news published were false?
[Nexus One General] McHale:
I envision the same mass hysteria when Orson Welles read "War of the Worlds" on the radio. There will be mass jumpings, riots, suicides, etc. It'll be total chaos.

;)
[Nexus One General] velenox:
Personally i did my best to inform my friends about the problem, but now for everyone the OTA has been released.

Anyway it's incredible, also in Italy all are sure that the OTA update has been released and all are waiting for the update.

As for twitter, what a shame, a lot of fake reports and false news.
[Nexus One General] velenox:
I mean, if site X reported false news, it will lost any credibility. At least it's how should be....
[Nexus One General] clickwir:
Because I think it's a grey area. Some people DO have the OTA update. So you can't say there isn't one.

This is big stuff. Froyo has been on the minds of many people for quite some time. There is a lot at stake for the blog that publishes the first "OFFICIAL OTA FOR THE so-and-so PHONE!". Tons of traffic and ad clicks and more people coming back for more news later on. So yea, they are going to keep the hype up and pseudo report on whatever they can.

Froyo has already been AOSP'd, so people are EXPECTING (but no one has been promised) that a Nexus One release could happen any minute now. That's big news when peoples entire blogs (and possibly careers) are based on who can report the most, first.

Stay calm, it'll get here. You have no one to be mad at but yourself.
[Nexus One General] lohertz:
That seems odd... I just got my N1 last week and it has ERD79... What kind of maintenance takes a week? I wonder what's cooking? LOL

:D

google com/support forum p android thread?tid=468801cbdf8eb9fe&hl=en&start=40
[Nexus One General] pfmiller:
The problem is blogs don't need credibility, they just need headlines that will attract ad views. That being the case, I imagine all the sites that only report credible news went out of business long ago ;)
[Nexus One General] velenox:
No, i can't believe, they are alive? i would be happy to know where is passion-ate!
[Nexus One General] flarbear:
It wouldn't be so bad if not for a few things:

- False headlines generate traffic which raises their position in search results. I was annoyed that the 5/24 blog about Froyo being OTA'd was in my News widget results for "Nexus One" and "Android" for the past month even though it was totally false information. There should be some sort of "thumbs down" rating for news items that keeps them out of the top search results generating fake duped traffic.

- People here who should know better how to identify if a release is really the official OTA or not keep opening up a new thread entitled "Here is the absolute official, for real, not kidding this time, FroYo OTA release for everyone! It's true!" every time there is a new report of some developer phone somewhere getting a new FroYo version - even when the reports clearly state several pieces of information that point out the obvious fact that the sighting was not an OTA for 2.1. Oy!

Here's a suggestion for the mods:

Create a single "False reports of FroYo" thread. Every time someone starts one of these "Here it is finally" threads that turns out to be wrong - move it into the "false reports" thread so that no unnecessary hopes get raised.

Any takers?