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[EVO 4G General] JUST2SUAVE:
Epic is a newer moment,Samsung makes phones that look good but suck, some of Yall must never had a moment, instinct or any bull**** ass phone they make huh?
[EVO 4G General] brennod10:
right but of i did that what will i use in the meantime... even though i won't be doing that
[EVO 4G General] heygrl:
The Epic is not the next Moment, get a clue
[EVO 4G General] Sebrina:
I have a Moment the Epic 4G (Galaxy S Series) and the Samsung Intercept (Moment 2) are completely different phones, get a clue.

Epic 4G:

http://newsreleases.sprint.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=127149&p=irol-newsArticle_newsroom&ID=1441988

Intercept:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/04/samsung-intercept-ambushed-in-the-wild-for-100-features-higher/

If you're not going to do it why ask, if you really hated the phone and didn't want a crippled HTC product you'd stick with pre-paid if you had to until the phone is released, but like you said "not that I'm going to" so why bother asking?
[EVO 4G General] JUST2SUAVE:
So you're sticking with a freezing and crippled outdated failing moment Samsung phone until they release another failing freezing version like the intercept? Doesn't matter if its three diff phones, Samsung phones all are crap, you must work for them I'm sure.
[EVO 4G General] heygrl:
I'm glad we're not all this ignorant and simple minded.
[EVO 4G General] JUST2SUAVE:
You are ignorant and simple minded if you talk nonsense about a phone you never had or dickride a phone that never came out yet. basically. I had Samsung phones, they suck, I have a evo I'm happy.
[EVO 4G General] Flytrap01:
Lens is Good... Camera Software Bad

Evo has a great camera just not utilized well because of the software.

I had a Samsang Behold II just before the EVO and will NEVER give Samang any of my business again... don't care how good they say it is. Samsang doesn't support their products. That phone was intro'ed 6 to 7 months ago and will never see above 1.6. Spent $500 with T Mobile on that thing which was an expensive lesson to learn.

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Flytrap!

HTC EVO 4G – Stock

Firmware: 2.1 Update1

Build number: 1.47.651.1

Software number: 1.47.651.1

Wanta Root but, update blocking...
[EVO 4G General] JUST2SUAVE:
I concur
[EVO 4G General] Supermighty:
How can you defend the 16 bit screen and the 30 fps? Some people won't notice... I guess. But I'll notice, and I'll notice it for the next two years.

The EVO has some really nice things about it. I love the size of the screen, but it doesn't make up for all the backwards steps it has taken. Do you even realize this isn't even a side step phone, it's a backwards step phone.
[EVO 4G General] JUST2SUAVE:
What phone do you have now?
[EVO 4G General] Supermighty:
I just switched from an iPhone 3G to the EVO, which I am returning.
[EVO 4G General] Sebrina:
What does it matter what phone he has now, we're comparing upcoming phones. It doesn't matter if he comes from a pre-paid flip or an Android superphone.
[EVO 4G General] popular nobody:
I think my post got lost in translation. I was stating that personally, EVO owners are downplaying a very good device in the Epic 4G. I can't defend the 16 bit screen, as that was my only "main" problem with the device for months now. Both this and the 30fps cap were HTC doing, that I don't have the time to explain. They should be using the Super TFT LCD screens in the future. 30fps cap will be fixed, so EVO owners and future owners shouldn't worry about that.

I've already stated my non-bias piece, and I'm done doing so. If Samsung is the greatest, **** it. If HTC is the greatest, **** it. This stupid back and forth won't end on my behalf, so we'll leave it at that. I'm just happy that Sprint have 3 good Android choices this summer. I just think is weird that a device which isn't out officially is way better than the EVO 4G, and doesn't have zero problems. I guess think isn't July 5th 2010 but September 18th 2010.
[EVO 4G General] Supermighty:
@ popular nobody

Yeah, that makes more sense now. I'm with you too. I don't much matter who's the "BEST" I just want a good phone I'll enjoy for foreseeable future.
[EVO 4G General] heygrl:
Contradiction? YES!

Where was I "riding" this phone? Please quote me.
[EVO 4G General] JUST2SUAVE:
What you going back to that,lol oh ****
[EVO 4G General] JUST2SUAVE:
I can ask what I wanna ask, you his agent or gf?
[EVO 4G General] JUST2SUAVE:
id rather a prepaid flip over a freezing moment anyday
[EVO 4G General] JUST2SUAVE:
Do you own the evo and the epic? If not you can't say what's the better phone
[EVO 4G General] AcIdC0R3:
hmm. Well, since we're all entitled to our own opinion. Samsung did good by using a AMOLED screen. My Zune HD has one and the colors are fantastic. Too bad HTC didn't beat them to the punch when it came to the EVO. As for processors, i've read the specs on both phones and there's not much difference. Not enough to really tell. 5mp cam in IMHO is old news. Hell, I have 2 digital cameras, one that's 6mp and the other that is 14mp so 5 is a thing of the past. As for the qwerty, well, my Touch pro had that. Although that adds to it as a nice feature and I did like it on the TP because I could speed txt like a madman on it but I've already become accustomed to the software based kb on the EVO. IMO Samsung should stick to making televisions and leave the cell phone market to the big dawgs like HTC and Motorola who (again, personal opinion) hold the show. Because I've had HTC in the past and I now own a EVO I just don't see the point in a lesser phone like the Epic 4G. If I were to change (and I won't) the only reason would be for the AMOLED. That's all it has on the EVO. Has anyone found out what the price will be on the Epic?

Here are an Engadget and a c|net YouTube overview in case someone missed them.
[EVO 4G General] popular nobody:
I do not have too many posts in here, so I advised you to read through them. Not at liberty to discuss anything more, but let's put it like this. If I wanted to post my personal opinions about the Epic 4G based on real life moments, I could do so easily. One thing you said is correct, I can't determine what's the better phone, because it's based on every individual POV. You should agree with me as well, unless you're a hypocrite that doesn't like to practice what he preaches. You don't own the Epic 4G to determine what's the better option.

*Back to Lurking*
[EVO 4G General] JUST2SUAVE:
LOL
[EVO 4G General] JUST2SUAVE:
truth
[EVO 4G General] Sebrina:
Just two things I'd like to show and not blab about, a picture (or in this case video) is worth a thousand words:

Neocore EPIC vs Nexus One (HTC gets owned!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLUQP7CWyeQ&feature=related

Look at that multi-touch and those black levels are amazing! (Also note that black is not grey HTC)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVlsRCMltDg&feature=related
[EVO 4G General] heliax007:
@Sebrina- just reading thru some threads here...and I haven't seen someone hate on HTC like you before. Not just the Evo, but you spew vitriol concerning HTC in general also...like Chou insulted you personally or something.
[EVO 4G General] Sebrina:
They have by selling me multiple devices and crippling them to death, I've been a long time HTC user long before touch screens came into play. The Evo is just the icing on the cake being the second insulting device they've sold me with the 30fps cap, bad hardware and insulting quality control issues, if I ever met Chou I'd probably spit on him.
[EVO 4G General] AcIdC0R3:
Sebrina, what are you trying to prove here. A Nexus One is flat out not an EVO. Two different HTC models. If you like the Epic then by all means get the Epic. Leave us EVO people to our EVO's. If people prefer the EVO's that's their choice. No sense in trying to swede them over. I'm sure if they want one they will get one. But I can tell you this, in two or three months there will be something better. You can't keep up with this technology unless you got the moxy and the money to make it happen. It moves too fast. Find what you like and stick with it for a year or two and then move on.
[EVO 4G General] Sebrina:
You're right the N1 is not an Evo the N1 actually outperforms the Evo in the Neo benchmark. So what exactly does that say about the Evo, mind you I didn't come to this thread I was brought here by a user of which I won't mention as he was gloating over how the Evo "pwns" the Galaxy S so I just threw my 2 cents in here for the record, it's been entertaining ever since.
[EVO 4G General] gatordon:
I have the EVO &it the best phone out..(Hands down)

Gatordon
[EVO 4G General] AcIdC0R3:
I'm sure there are plenty Nexis One forums out there. Maybe you stumbled into here by accident but if you read the street sign so to speak this is an EVO F O R U M. So what if a bench says that the N1 is faster. Like I said in my previous posting in two to three months there will be something better. There always is.
[EVO 4G General] Dsmithjr:
I think the EVO looks like a better phone than the Epic, but, to be honest, if the Epic wasn't a 4G phone (which I'm sure will require the "premium data" charge) I'd probably try it out. This $10 a month charge kind of bugs me, and I'm starting to think the EVO might not be worth the extra charge.

That being said, every Samsung phone I've ever owned, Moment included, has completely sucked! (Sidenote: I had the Moment before the 2.1 update so maybe that helped.) Samsung products have just always been so buggy and cheap for me. On the plus side, TouchWiz doesn't look half as bad as Sense. However, that's not saying much because I think Sense is the worst thing ever to happen to the Android OS.

Oh well, I hope Sammy does indeed have a hit on their hands with Galaxy S line. The more manufactures Android has, the more the platform gets pushed forward. For now, I'm sticking with my EVO unless Sprint drops a high-end Android that's not 4G.

P.S. That Super AMOLED screen is hot. And don't forget that HTC uses Sammy's screens too, so hopefully we'll see some HTC product with that screen in the future.
[EVO 4G General] patelkedar91:
I like its GPU and Screen.

Otherwise, the form factor for the Epic is meh. Looks like a teenager's phone, and I don't really want that.

Samsung's support for their old Galaxy wasn't too great.

And I hate the Iphone-like UI. If I wanted something like an Iphone, I'd get an Iphone. Too many cues taken from the iphone.
[EVO 4G General] JUST2SUAVE:
lol lol:):):)
[EVO 4G General] bluehaze:
Just another jealous person that can't own the EVO for one reason or another, trying to justify things for themselves by talking smack in a forum. :D This person will likely still swear up and down the Galaxy S is the best phone ever even after it's been released and everyone realizes it sucks just like all of Samsungs phones have in the past :p Don't let it bother you, it's funny really.
[EVO 4G General] Dsmithjr:
Popular Nobody,

You mentioned an as yet unheard of Moto phone for Sprint in a different thread. I understand if you can't give any details, but is it possible for you to tell us if this will be a 4G device???
[EVO 4G General] Rootwind:
Speaking of which, look at the supposed leaked specs of the Galaxy S2 to be released next year. Sounds like phones to be released in the next 6 months will be running circles around anything to be released in the next 2 months.
[EVO 4G General] AcIdC0R3:
That's how it always is. The cell phone technology is ever moving forward and it's happening at a very increased rate. These phones nowadays are microcomputers in the palm of your hand. It's taking form just like it is in the computer industry. I can't even fathom what they'll be like in 5 or 6 years.
[EVO 4G General] impactsto:
Not enough going on for me to want to switch phones. If I did, I would be pissed in few months when the new flagship phone comes out. Sad thing is the bleeding edge of telecommunications lasts a maximum of three months. After that your working on borrowed time.

The good part? The people that make up this community! I've been here since my G1 days and the people and devs here make even THAT phone current. I don't know what the support for the Sammy Epic is but, I know it can't really match what we have here. I can assure you the best is yet to come....
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
If I was going solely on screen display and touch response though.. my decision MAY be a bit different.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkiCAOXsUSE&feature=player_embedded

The amoleds cant be touched right now
[EVO 4G General] chococrazy:
I hope you know the megapixels don't matter as much anymore. Just because a camera has the same megapixels doesn't mean it has the same sensor. The hero had a really good camera for the time. The Epic has a better video quality than the evo, and what I've heard on par quality with pictures.

Frankly, I'd much rather have the Samsung Galaxy S (Sprint got the pro Version).

The Galaxy S is about as thick as the Iphone 4, no keyboard though.
[EVO 4G General] a111z:
i had a behold 2 before my evo. theres no way i would go back to samsung while they still have touchwiz.
[EVO 4G General] Aridon:
Wow...

http://m.gizmodo.com/5580123/quake-2-test-htc-desire-vs-samsung-galaxy-s
[EVO 4G General] Plancy:
I'm, personally, not going to be playing Quake 3 on a 4 inch screen or any FPS for that matter, Even 4.3 is too small. If I can take a phone and a controller, I'm pretty sure I can take a laptop to wherever I am playing this.
[EVO 4G General] ap3604:
Is it lonely up there on your pedistal Plancy?

Guess its so lonely you've never heard that people actually play PSP's / Nintendo DS...
[EVO 4G General] SONIC589:
That is impressive!!! That game ran flawless!!
[EVO 4G General] Plancy:
Like I said, personally. FPS is just too fast pace, I need a big screen. Though I agree the Samsung Epic has some serious graphical prowess.

Where is the Nexus One vs. Samsung Galaxy S, doesn't HTC not use the correct drivers for their products?
[EVO 4G General] Vertig0:
So that's all the Evo has vs the Epic, .3" ? I also got the Evo for the screen but as soon I ran Asphalt I noticed the lag. HTC droped the ball with the Evo big time.
[EVO 4G General] Plancy:
Asphalt 5?(Googled it) Never played it but it looks intense.

How do you steer, does the Evo have a good gyroscope?

Could someone find a way to output the video game video source through the phones HDMI/Tv/Video out.
[EVO 4G General] Ken B:
Epic coming July 10th?

I went to Sprint this weekend as I am preparing to switch from AT&T, and the salesperson told me that the Sprint Epic is arriving this Saturday, July 10th. I guess we will wait and see.
[EVO 4G General] mrmomoman:
What lag? I play it now and no lag in my EVO.
[EVO 4G General] ap3604:
Oh C'mon! You HAVE to stay with Att/iPhone... its the best phone ever right?
[EVO 4G General] trukenx:
two words NO FLASH!!!!!

no matter how amazing your low light sensors are, nothing beats a flash in low light situations
[EVO 4G General] jzh797s:
The Epic has a flash.
[EVO 4G General] donatom3:
I think people are getting confused because yes the Epic has a flash, but the other Galaxy S phones don't. Well some might but the original and some of the US versions don't.
[EVO 4G General] JUST2SUAVE:
This confirmed?
[EVO 4G General] shep211:
I hope it is. I cant wait to add epic to my collection.
[EVO 4G General] JUST2SUAVE:
so you buy every advance sprint phone that comes out? You balling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[EVO 4G General] AcIdC0R3:
You collect cell phones? Wow, I bet that could get expensive after a while.
[EVO 4G General] fachadick:
I don't buy it. I'm going to guess that the salesperson is thinking of the Intercept (aka Moment 2) which launches this weekend - not the Epic. If I had to guess, I would say that the Epic will launch somewhere between late July to mid-August.
[EVO 4G General] Ken B:
I've been to the store twice now and the 1st time the salesman said the 10th, and then on Monday, 2 salesmen agreed that the Epic was showing up on the 10th, so that would mean that 3 different Sprint salesmen were confusing the Epic with the Intercept. Stranger things have happened.
[EVO 4G General] heygrl:
There is no way it would be launching on the 10th with absolutely no promotion.
[EVO 4G General] Aridon:
I haven't seen it clear the fcc yet so its impossible for it to launch on the 10th. Unless I missed it.
[EVO 4G General] cteneyck:
^^^^^^^^^

LOL. Can't we all just get along ;)
[EVO 4G General] ap3604:
No! I have little mans syndrome so I must drive a lifted truck and tell everyone else how my phone is better than theirs to make myself feel better about my purchase... :cool:
[EVO 4G General] Ken B:
I was wrong.

You're right, I contacted the sales person from Sprint and he says he was mistaken, it WAS the Intercept NOT the Epic that they were speaking about. They got confused because I for sure told them the Samsung Galaxy S/Sprint Epic when I was in to see them and they all said they knew which phone I was referring to. So I guess it is just wait and see.
[EVO 4G General] :
Meh...all this fighting in the EVO thread. If you don't like the EVO maybe you shouldn't post in the EVO section...lolol.

When it's all said and done...I'll take HTC's products over Samsung anyday. Just my personal experience.

~Jasecloud4
[EVO 4G General] Aridon:
PThey all do retarded stuff to their phones. Htc included. We are fortunate to have strong developer support for the device and I'm sure the galaxy will have equally strong if not stronger since it will be out on just about every single carrier.
[EVO 4G General] AcIdC0R3:
This is a quote from somewhere else on the forum.

nuff said. :D
[EVO 4G General] bluehaze:
If the Epic was a better phone i'd get it without a doubt but it's not it's a damn iPhone knockoff that will have no support after you purchase it...if the epic fanboys don't want to have their feathers ruffled perhaps they should stick to posting in the Epic forums? Maybe the Epic forums are so dead that they have to come here in order to get any response? Don't know but honestly if you come here you have to expect the kind of response you are recieving. The EVO is a better phone than the Epic, if your looking for Epic hype then stick to the Epic forums!
[EVO 4G General] k2snowboards88:
The problem is that there are a lot people with blind passionate HTC fanboyism as strong as any apple fanboy.
[EVO 4G General] AcIdC0R3:
I think they've spent to many long hours on these forums. You guys need to get laid. haha
[EVO 4G General] blulitespecial:
I don't care to waste my time reading the rest of the thread of bashing, but I'll just say I haven't had good experiences with samsung phones so I would lean more htc side. however, the moment was somewhat better than my past ones

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[EVO 4G General] Vertig0:
Correct, the phone they are releasing is the inter something which I believe is the moment 2.

From the business point of view will make no sense to launch a phone that will compete with a phone you spent millions promoting... I don't expect this phone probably till labor day.
[EVO 4G General] trinibk4u:
Personally I LOVE HTC but I love a hardware qwerty keyboard HTC's build and designs a beautiful but that super AMOLED is an eye catcher ... I currently have the moment and as enticing as the epic 4G sounds I think Ill hold out for a htc android future 3.0 device with a qwerty
[EVO 4G General] th3b055:
Why all the animosity towards the Epic? The enemy is iOS and everything else.. I welcome the Epic as another worthy member of the Android family. Only thing that would appeal to me on the Epic is the screen, but oh well. The EVO holds its own and then some against pretty much any other phone. I have always owned QWERTY keyboard devices, but now that I got Swype, QWERTY keyboards seem like a thing of the past to me. Oh well, nice to see another solid phone on the market soon.
[EVO 4G General] heygrl:
Well acting like you're all open arms to any new Android phone, and then saying stuff like Samsung won't update it, the screen is all that's good on it, the HTC Evo is better (which it is not, the facts disprove that; personal opinion is fine), and etc. is probably causing the majority of animosity in this thread.
[EVO 4G General] sfox8:
Funny because your comment does nothing to help the animosity either. The "facts" on paper prove that the Epic is higher spec'd, not that it is better. What is "better" is all a matter of opinion because some people do not care about specs. Some people may not like TouchWiz or Sense, some people may not like physical keyboards or touchscreen keyboards (ex. my mother hates touchscreen keyboards). There are other factors that go into making a phone GOOD and a worthy investment. Many people have had problems with Samsung's quality assurance and support. This is a perfectly valid point. Just like some people have problems with HTC lying to customers all the time. Perfectly valid point. They're not talking Samsung or the Epic down, they're just giving their input which is what the OP asked for. (the people that are flat out hating on it are clearly not worth the time)

A phone can look great on paper but what really tells how good it is is real world usage and the support the device receives AFTER it is released. You can put anything on paper and make it look good.

Personally, I'm not saying the Epic/Galaxy S's won't be good phones, but for a lot of people the EVO is just a better device to them -overall-. I'd welcome any new addition to the Android family with open arms though.
[EVO 4G General] vanstrien:
Moment -> Evo !> Epic

I'm moving from the Moment to an Evo. There are a lot of things I like about the Moment, but HTC squarely beats Samsung when it comes to interface. While I find that Sense UI is too busy and I wish I could make it three screens instead of 7, sending more than a basic intent to a widget is the way Android should already be but isn't. I'd move to LauncherPro on both the phones if you could use HTC widgets in Launcherpro.

The epic looks better because of the chipset, but I'd stick with HTC just because they support their phones better.
[EVO 4G General] oOflyeyesOo:
Amen.

You said it all right there.
[EVO 4G General] ap3604:
Agreed... the real enemy is iPhone, NOT any other Android phone

Anyone who gets mad over someone else saying their phone is better than yours just needs to have more self confidence in their purchases. Trying to make yourself feel better about your purchase by getting in arguments is pretty childish :rolleyes:
[EVO 4G General] ap3604:
+1... for me :(
[EVO 4G General] :
I'm lucky. I switched over to a Sprint family plan, and my mother already had a phone: which leaves me with an extra upgrade on my lines (already have the EVO). So it looks like I may just get the Galaxy S, or wait until something even better comes out ;)

~Jasecloud4
[Galaxy S I9000 General] audino:
hot to unenable the start and shutdown videos/tone?
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] exbm:
I installed darchdroid and i cant get the 3g icon to display when I am not in wifi. I use cricket for service. I know that cricket uses wap proxy but before I at least at web browsing. 3g Icon did display when first started but now that wifi enabled 3g doesnt come back
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] unCoRrUpTeD:
Hey...

I love Sense UI, but for the last 5 days I have been running froyo and wanted to find an alternate Home Launcher. After downloading several free ones I have come by 2 that i like..

The first one is Zeam--There are settings to allow you make the home screen go full screen which removes the status bar and you can have 9 screens.

The second one is Tag Home Launcher--It has a nice launcher and lets you set the transparency on certain things.

I also want to know what launcher you prefer and why. Please don't say Sense.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] killerxx2:
ADW launcher or try LauncherPro
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] Taterus Maximus:
Launcher Pro. 3-7 screens, scrollable dockbar, pretty smooth, nice app drawer. The only downside is Sense widgets don't work in it, if you use those a lot.