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[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] rayman18:
i know too, that is why i said i overclocked :D

somebody told me that 2.1 also included JIT, the difference between 2.1 and 2.2 is the "JIT version". i mean the 2.2 will include a new improved JIT that in 2.1 alrready exits, but that improvement would so good enough to think that 2.1 doesnt include JIT ;)

So i were expecting more performance improvement, but we can see that the JIT in 2.1 is the same as in 2.2:(

And ist not a rom
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] arrrghhh:
You obviously have no clue what you're talking about... so if you really have read more than me, you didn't process any of it.

You're just proving my point.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] rayman18:
lol could you argue your stupids argumentations? if not i cant answer you :D

P.D. that person was phh

EDIT: here is the irc log

The only one that have no clue what are talking about are you..... STUPID!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] x40sw0n:
Er?

As I understood it, unless your 'JIT enabled' version is some sort of backport/hack then you are not in fact running JIT on Dalvik on your 2.1 image. you are just o/c'ing it.

So effectively the JIT compiler on Dalvik is natively doing the same thing as your o/c hack.

see :

http://phandroid.com/2010/05/26/going-deeper-with-android-2-2s-jit-compiler/

And since backporting that code would be A) time consuming, and B) pointless, I suspect that you do not in fact have JIT on dalvik on your 2.1 image.

I don't know if anyone has thought to ask this, but what is it exactly that made you think you did have JIT enabled on your 2.1 image?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] hamagc:
lets try to keep this thread clean guys.

2.1 included a version of jit. but without overclocking it you are at 2+mflops. with 2.2 we are seeing as high as 4.4mflops and this is without overclocking. thats 2x the speed of 2.1.

we're not going to see a 450% increase in anything.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] rayman18:
finally a coherent person...

is you dowload the stineb kitchen and you try to build a image, you can set some params, one of them is for enable JITm you can see it here http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Build_Configuration

So yes, we can run 2.1 with JIT, but as i said and phh said to me, the JIT version in 2.2 has improvements...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] hamagc:
he is running the neopeek which is a backport from another device.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] rayman18:
hamag allow me to correct you, without oc i have 4.1-4.2 mflops in 2.1;)

Yes that is the key ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] x40sw0n:
ah I see. but pay close attention here:

"15:37	rayman18	ok, so the JIT from 2.2 is an improvemt of the one that in 2.1 already exist

15:37	phh	yes"

which answers your own question, "where is the magic?" since

In order of benefits:

A) same performance without o/c'ing

B) no custom kernel images

C) stability

D) compatibility with new apps

E) potential to o/c even higher
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] hamagc:
your getting 4.2 without oc?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] x40sw0n:
back on track

irregardless lets stop threadjacking and get back on topic. this is a thread for Froyo. period.

2.2 only.

This is so we can provide solid information to the devs working on a standard deployable format.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] rayman18:
Im not saying 2.2 havent improve 2.1 but in mflops. You are correct in all of this things. So as i see the JIT in 2.2 is "the same" as we can have in a 2.1 build, but obviously with the improvements of 2.2.

I have tried 2.2 and yes, the launcher works better and smother, and the system in general, i cant argue with that. Im only refering to mflops (that are completly useless as i could try in neopek) ;)

Yes, as a top result, exactly the same as using JIT in 2.2
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] arrrghhh:
Sigh... Some people's children.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] reverendkjr:
Gentlemen,

I believe that correct course of action here is to "wait and see" what the end results are, instead of getting upset over speculation about pre-alpha builds.

I'm just sayin' ....:cool:
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] x40sw0n:
Hell with waiting man, I am running this as often as it will let me (occasional random reboots, I think its a battery deal with me; battery dips too low and it kicks it off.)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] hamagc:
thats interesting. i'm pretty much running this full time and experience no reboots at all. phone will lag shortly before the battery completely dies but thats about it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] x40sw0n:
battery

It is, but my battery has been on it's last legs for a while. Even in windows I generally only get about 6 hours before I have to plug it in. I get 3-4 maybe in android at best.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] arrrghhh:
3-4 hours seems about average if you have a CDMA device and use sync...

I've been trying to use it full-time, but the battery is killing me. I keep forgetting to plug it in and find my phone just dead for who knows how long haha!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] hamagc:
ya i get about 5 hours per charge. i usually leave it plugged in at the office and charge it on my way home. then at night i have my 2 batteries which last me all night with pretty constant use.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] arrrghhh:
You use your phone constantly at night? :P

My usage isn't by any means great, but I don't want to run Android full-time until I can take it off the charger in the morning, and have the phone make it at least 10 hours before it makes it back on the charger at night.

Hopefully with some further sleep improvements and perhaps some CDMA radio tweaks we'll be close to that.

I'm lovin' Android for the short spurts that I do use it tho!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] hamagc:
lol ya pretty much. from the time i get off i am looking through here and ppcg, on andchat, reading tweets, news, going through the market, playing games.

my g/f is the same. we're both at the point where we are tired of the issues in winmo and love the way android runs on our phones. so we pretty much run it full time. reset to winmo at night to charge and use the alarm.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] sidliu:
Wow! This is awesome! Extremely responsive. Much better than 2.1.

Now we just need to flash it to the rom. :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] colo-natas:
<Sigh> My lady won't move to XDANDROID until the camera works because she says she uses it every day. My. God.

Anyway, I tried out 2.2 today and I am impressed! I'm not going to switch to it full time yet, over 2.1, but it is very very close. If I send beer money will development go faster? ;)

And now I see I need to update my signature...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] hamagc:
donations always help. the devs put their own time and efforts into this and as you can see from reading the thread, only half the people are supportive lol.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] colo-natas:
TIME FOR ANOTHER DONATION! I'll raid the couch cushions for spare change tonight.

Edit: Is it best now to make one massive donation that can be split up or donate to just my favorite devs? :P This is always the most problematic part of donating.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] arrrghhh:
I'm not sure if there's a donation pool so-to-speak for this project... it seems to be just individual devs have donation pots setup thru paypal typically.

IF there is a large pot for the XDAndroid project, there may be more overall donations... Maybe not, who knows.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] maury1234:
hey guys

for all of you who want to nand-flash android theres some news here

its in neopeek.com and they are looking into porting over vogues work to our devices....hopefuly it can be done
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] EclipseTouchPro:
Well babijoee I found out what was causing the problem with my sd card not wanting to work , the file EncFiltLog.menc and a few fsck.rec files was causing my card to lag up and not run properly. Why isn't xdandroid not working on my touch pro? I followed all the steps... the booting bios finishes than the xdandroid animation plays but it freezes after 5 min (i let it stay for 30 min still stuck)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] babijoee:
Please have respect for other members.

arrrrrgh has been following this thread and 2.1 for quite some time and is a friendly and helpful member. I'm sorry but i have never seen you post in 2.1 thread and its quite obvious in your chat with phh that you had no idea what was going on aswell.

I'd like this thread to remain on topic as many other members have mentioned

thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] hamagc:
currently there is no general fund for the devs. we are still working on setting that up. right now the best would be to donate to your favorite dev. i know babijoee and stinebd have been putting in alot of work on this lately.

if you are still unsure i am accepting donations and passing them out bewteen the devs one at a time.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] x40sw0n:
Running issues

I would recommend copying off any files you don't want to lose, then formatting the card at FAT32, from your PC (windows mobile formats it at FAT16). I have personally noticed a dramatic difference in speed and stability running on fat32.

Seriously, I cannot stress the difference. It almost halved my bootup time on the exact same deployment of 2.1 xdandroid.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] CazH:
XDAndroid has a paypal account, and it's brandspanking new. But I don't have a link, I'm gonna go looking for it :)

Edit:

While I'm at it. Some benchmarks from just now, with 2.2 with JIT enabled and clocked at 691mhz (DIAM100)

CaffeineMark 3.0 Overall score = 2101

Linpack = 4,791MFlops

Quadrant = 391

And no I don't have screen shots but If you don't belive me, I don't care ;)

Edit2:

And here is the link, got it from stinebd so I know it's not fake gonna get babijoee to post in main topic :)

https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=KNHRUM7UX5VCC
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] yourboyfrombk:
I'm using the new rootfs an its running hot again handdds is sweaty and I don't know why my D key is acting up its been this way Ever since I starteddd testing as you can see its sensitive an I'm still having the issue with the home an back keys going out an needding a restart to get them to work again getting some force closes ddddurning looking thru the dev options an I notice I can't answer calls till the last minutes or ill just miss them....

P.s.

I wish I hadd money to give you guys I'm testing everything y'all guys put out faithfully =) )
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] perern:
how do you enable JIT in 2.2?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] CazH:
Enabled it in the buildspec file, and compiled it, has to be latest source. Stinebd just added it today.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] reverendkjr:
I'm dying to try a new ext2!!! maybe someone nice will link soon? :rolleyes:
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Maikeu Locatelli:
WoW, i wanna know how my topaz will be in the test, because the 7200A(topaz and rhodium) is faster that 7201A (diamond, raphael,HD), because of patents.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] AndroHQUist:
Are these guys insane ? How are T-mobile users supposed to be able to use Android phones ? Is it well known that the provider blocks things ?

I would certanly not accept that from my provider !
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] thedicemaster:
they aren't blocking it.

due to some unknown problem the connection between T-mobile and google is a bit too unstable for google's apps.

they'd be crazy if they'd be preventing their own customers from using the android phones THEY introduced.

it's just a problem some T-mobile users have, mostly near big cities and during peak hours.

i have T-mobile too, but so far no real problems.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] babijoee:
maybe something later today ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] AndroHQUist:
Ok, Thanks for the enlightment. Wasn't that evil..
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] thedicemaster:
T-mobile certainly isn't completely evil.

i'm getting €10 from them for telling them their 3G network is crappy and inconsistent.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] AkumaMax:
all I have to say is "WOW". I was looking into getting an HTC Aria because I wanted a working droid system. Good thing I didn't after the whole SD card issue was fixed it is damn near flawless. There is one last issue I am having on my HTC Fuze and that is Voice command. Was this disabled? Was it an issue and is there a fix. I will load the 6/30 rootfs and see if this helps. Other than that the work that has been done by the XDA Droid team is amazing. I'm so happy that I have a working phone.:D
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] babijoee:
At the moment we have a working build. Only main thing i know that is broken is wifi and stinebd is right on it. He has found the root of the problem and is now applying a solution.

Other than that i'm currently getting the build tested and ready for mass consumption. :)

We are moving from alpha to beta stage now :)

I'll be updating this thread to make it more presentable and easier to navigate.

One good thing that i know all of you will very much will like is now tiwlan0 now much more efficient and should no longer heat up your device. It should be cool now ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] maury1234:
is the efficiency of the driver help increase the life of the battery?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] AkumaMax:
I second that. Well it's getting to be 12pm here in good old IL so i am off to sleep hoping to see the beta build before the weekend.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] babijoee:
Dont know, i guess before it wasn't being control efficiently before but now it is so i guess that does mean improved battery life. :p
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] vincentchan:
Canot wait for trying it
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] babijoee:
You'll see it sometime today :) its a small test so shouldn't take too long.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] AkumaMax:
good to hear. Would be nice to wake up tomorrow morning and be able to get it then and use it all day at work.:D
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] maury1234:
waiting for new build
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] vitusdoom:
oh, I forgot to mention. my diam100 is not heating up anymore with the alpha build. but maybe this beta build will have better battery life since it will not be heating up. nice nice. ;) hooraay for you. and thanks btw
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] vincentchan:
What is the password?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] EclipseTouchPro:
well i got it to work, apperently xdandroid doesn't work on a 8gb sd card... I tried it out on a 1gb and it worked fine. Any reason why this happens?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] babijoee:
dodgy 8gb card :p

Could be how its setup. Try logically formatting it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] babijoee:
please remove. This is test build and not for the public. There's a password on it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] babijoee:
i'm pleased to announce we now have working wifi :)

All credits goto stinebd :)

Its nearly there guys, testing is taking abit longer than expected but definitely expect a package today :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] picabiv:
this for other release?:confused:
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] vitusdoom:
gratse on this. hopefully if things go smooth we might really have to replace winmo permanently. :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] babijoee:
Upcoming build yes. Not yet finalized. Still making some preps and readying for you guys. Sit tight.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] babijoee:
well if neopeek suceeds in flashing android to our devices then we might see it.

I'll be releasing a pack in a few hours. Going out to gym and once i get back the testing should be done and i'll upload the pack for everyone :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Scam88:
Yessssssss

Fantastic can not wait to try it builds:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] joannerve:
The web browser doesn´t contains Flash Player 10. Installed Flash Player for Froyo throught AndroidApps but don´t work
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] EclipseTouchPro:
well I went ahead and tried something crazy.. remember that my 1 gb sd card ran android fine. What I went ahead and did tonight was take all the info from that 1gb and placed it to my 8gb and when I ran it android lasted for 1 min and everything frooze and black screen (no power to the phone had to remove battery) and when I turn it on it wont let me get past the windows booting screen. what cause this issue is the EncFiltLog.menc file. See what happens is that when I try running it to the 8gb while running android it makes a new EncFiltLog.menc on the root. I have all my files in root/andboot and I must delete EncFiltLog.menc from the root for my sd card to work properly in boot mobile phone and computer because it goes very slow and is unresponsive.

I use the 8gb on my phone and don't want to switch to a 1 or 2 gb just to have android... is there a fix?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] n13l6:
First of all: nice work!

how long does the boot procedure take? After a while i get the error "cant find setupmodem.sh"

and then the phone starts with:

request_suspend_state: wakeup (0->0) at 10000

request_suspend_state: wakeup (0->0) at 10512

request_suspend_state: wakeup (0->0) at 11350

....

this continues for a loooong time. Do others have this as well? Do I have to wait until this stops? I have a raph100.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Hemant:
+1 i get this too. Mine took more than 30 mins but never booted. It seems this might have been fixed in the latest version.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Scam88:
New Build

Where can i download and test new build or it is not already downloadable?

I have find only build of 28.6.10.

Thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] CeasarRAPH100:
I run 2.2 on a 8GB sd card on RAPH100, and it works but still have issues with the "SD CARD unmounted or not present then it opens the cam"

Was that the same issue you had ?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] rattenfanger:
Have you tried using the latest rootfs from http://xdandroid.southcape.org/rootfs/? I have had the same problem and fixed it with the rootfs from 30-06.

René
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] n13l6:
Dankje :D

Works! I had to delete the old rootfs and rename the new one!

Nice build! Bit slow in the beginning though
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] babijoee:
For people getting these problems you'll have to add a cmd to your startup which slows down access to your sd. I can't find the cmd, but when i get back to from phh i'll immediately post it in first post so everyone facing this problem can fix it. Sometimes updating to a newer rootfs.img can remedy the problem it seems ;p
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] vincentchan:
Whoo,you are back finally!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] babijoee:
Uploading new build now guys :)

The wait is almost over
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] mrgelmer:
Can't wait anymore :D!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] babijoee:
Download is live grab it from 3rd post :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] perern:
JIT and SD Card working?

testing it now
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] babijoee:
You let me know :p

So far the test weren't as successful as i though thats why this is v1
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] mrgelmer:
It's almost booted and i will test it.

EDIT:

WIFI doesn't work at all. When I want to turn it on it say's: Error
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] hammerit:
1)Still no sound

2)Wifi dont work

3)More laggy than previous
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] mrgelmer:
I agree. The same problems.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] babijoee:
wifi doesn't work? anyone see the sdcard? or notifications or ringtones?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] EclipseTouchPro:
I'm not sure lol all I know is when I install droid with the 8gb it boots up but than it locks up causing the phone to shut off forcing me to take out the battery and when it tries to load up the windows mobile logo it crashes because the sd card is corrupted with that file I mentioned earlier .... if I remove that file windows boot up. But when I did it with my 1gb i had no trouble. with both the phone and card. What I mean by that is when I use the 8gb after i locks up on me, if I try to put it on my desk top computer it takes 1-5 min to load up and its very slow... it looks like its trying to load something causing it to go slow but as soon as I delete that file its fast again.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] mrgelmer:
Sorry, sound is working and lagg is gone but wifi doesn't work at all.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] vincentchan:
SDCard still no works!

EDIT:

I am using RAPH800.

Sdcard works just in file explorer app.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] mrgelmer:
SDcard is working on my divice
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] gajdik:
In my diam200 i can browse sdcard (internal storage) without problems with file explorer, but album shows only picasa web albums
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] babijoee:
Hrmm it seems different devices are affected differently. I'm assuming the people who have sdcard have raph100?

For wifi can you guys try re-updating to latest rootfs.img

I could have possibly packaged the wrong one.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] hammerit:
TOPAZ

1)Wi-Fi scanning, but dont find any network.

2)No sound in music and music player have 2x play speed

3)SD card work, but i can't see any ringtones, only silent
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Melodylion:
WiFi and SD-Card is working.

Device isn't getting as hote as with the 2.1.

But i believe that the device don't sleeps very good. The breathing is nervous, sometimes is the breath animation broken. sometimes it starts every second and sometimes just every then.

I hope u get what i mean ;)

Greatz
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] cia_max:
reformat your sd-card or throw it away! it seems to be corrupted. the file you mentioned is on my sd card too, but it's created by windows mobile.

babijoee: wifi is working for me with the newest build and sd-card too! raph 300 here! :) great job!

when android is working in nand, and battery live is acceptable, pph, you and stine will get a donation :) because then i don't need to buy a new android phone :)

greetz max
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Melodylion:
UPDATE: The Breath problems seem to be caused by the wifi. if i deactibate it breath (=sleep) works.

PS: Im on a Raph100. And there will be a donation to from me =)

EDIT: The nordic_raph keyboard is not working for me...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] rayman18:
Diam100

Wifi works dhcp works

Sound works and ringtone works but i canr set the ringtone or play music,it say no sdcard

Worst general performance than alpha
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] babijoee:
Wow so its mixed results. Glad to hear its working for some. I'll need to report this to stinebd for further investigation.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] cia_max:
my phone just hung up while searching new pictures in gallery 3d... it restartet the search several times, when it was done and the phone got slower and slower, and then it freezed...

breathing led is the same for me since this build and the wakeup only works sometimes...deactivating wifi fixes this.

does the carmode work for someone? with the alpha build it worked... now the icon in the upper left is shown, but the app doesn't open. maybe i have to restart the device?!

edit: the sd-card of my roommate's diamond100 doesn't work neither. waking up the phone from deepsleep is nearly impossible :D.

2nd edit: now his sd-card works, just waited some minutes and opened the gallery. now the pictures are there and the ringtones in the settings too! don't know why :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] ReWind402:
1) Did you tried switching "on" the wifi in WinMo before booting?