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[EVO 4G General] :
Sigh those are movies with motion blur.

Menus, and transitions need to be at 60fps to be smooth. Look at the iphone.

PS the human eye doesn't see in frames.

Try playing a video game at 24 fps rofl.
[EVO 4G General] :
That can't be right, the boot display on Froyo is at 60fps and it is smooth.

And what kind of lcd is 30hz?
[EVO 4G General] :
I come from an iPhone, everything is incredibly smooth when scrolling.

Now the phone itself is much slower, but the 60fps scrolling is amazing. The htc evo 4g is like not smooth.

Also to the TC, where did HTC ever say it was designed like that? I read somewhere that they said they were going to give a OTA update to the phones... they better.
[EVO 4G General] bcnice20:
Guys its not the actual cap that is the problem its when the fps drops to say 10 15 thats when your noticing the problem
[EVO 4G General] :
Don't bull**** me

No it's not 30fps is lag.
[EVO 4G General] Mast3rpyr0:
= da truth. BUT I still dislike caps, so we still need to fix this.
[EVO 4G General] madsquabbles:
i'd be happy with 30 fps. but there's gotta be more than just a cap. this thing will not play games as smooth as the droid. at 18 fps on quadrand looked pretty nice, not playable, but nice.

i've been playing crusade of destiny on both units and it's very choppy on the evo. the droid is butter. if gaming is a priority it seems i'd be better off dumping the evo and looking at the droid x or even keeping my droid.
[EVO 4G General] joeykrim:
don't get me wrong, we all appreciate people taking the lead on an effort!

we now have a thread in the developer board where people pledge a small donation ... we now have a debate thread in the developer board regrading the practicality of eliminating the 30 fps cap ...

from a developer point of view, two things quickly come to mind which seem important to developing:

1) facts - how bout you start a thread in the developer board with some actual facts? some of the other devs, including i think maejrep have been researching the lcd panels in our EVO due to potential hardware/driver differences which have effected the kernel source toast put together. we have a novatec (rev 2) and an epson (rev 3) lcd screen if i remember right.

do some search on our models and post some facts? actual hardware details? other phones with these lcd screens? any version of any of the drivers possible to find? anybody with some time and google skills could put this together and it will help ANY developer get up to speed quicker.

2) source code - once htc releases the kernel source, THEN we can easily dive into the display/graphics source code and start researching, experimenting and tweaking. perhaps another effort could be organized to help push HTC on their release of the kernel source.

as an amateur developer, it doesn't help me as much hearing some people claiming to notice 30 fps effecting their phone and hearing some people claiming not to notice. what really helps all developers is seeing FACTS and CODE!

once again, i always appreciate everybody's effort and dedication to their EVOs!
[EVO 4G General] stylez:
Moved as not Development.
[EVO 4G General] themyst:
Question, has HTC released the source to previous CDMA Android devices? I don't know HTC's history of releasing such code.
[EVO 4G General] bcnice20:
Yea it took them forever to drop source on the hero though
[EVO 4G General] roybotnik:
The best way to fix the problem is to return the pile of junk.

Fixing it yourself just lets HTC get away with it. This is why companies just walk all over everyone nowadays. They know that you'll do whatever it takes to use their latest piece of tech jewelry.
[EVO 4G General] Vinny75:
I know they will eventually release the source but wonder if it would help for everyone to submit requests for the source per the GPL.

Like http://blog.ginkel.com/2010/04/htcs-gpl-non-compliance/ and http://lists.gpl-violations.org/pipermail/legal/2010-January/001797.html
[EVO 4G General] Sporkman:
like i said before i have not noticed any lag on my phone it runs great great battery smooth scrolling im happy
[EVO 4G General] roybotnik:
Just because you haven't noticed doesn't mean everyone else hasn't. The problems are going to be extremely noticeable to anyone coming from an iphone or android phone that runs at the proper 60fps. My wife even notices and she's probably only used her EVO for an hour since she got it.
[EVO 4G General] frettfreak:
WHY would you even consider doing this?? lol

I am down for $20.

+1!!! Hey hears and idea... If you dont "see" the issue, or it doesnt bother you then DONT POST Cause you are in the minority and the MAJORITY of people from what i can see, notice and care.. If you dont.. then go live in your happy little world and be gone. :)
[EVO 4G General] clubtech:
I have both the N1 and the EVO.

The first thing i noticed about the evo is how choppy it is comparing to the N1 in every game i tried.

It bothers me so much, that I am thinking about returning the EVO.

I'll give it another week or so to see if anything can be fixed by the great devs here, if not i hope many os us will return the phone and hopefully teach HTC a lesson.

I also had the HD2 and it had exactly the same problem. bad OpenGL drivers. HTC never fixed it. to date!

I am not sure if this is a 30fps limit issue, it seems like the phone's GPU is just slower as the choppiness is happening at 10-15fps...
[EVO 4G General] redct:
I was looking up something completely unrelated (looking for a 3D model of the Android mascot for some wallpaper making) and I stumbled upon this from May:

So, it looks like it's eminently fixable—just as soon as HTC gets around to releasing that source. Damnit, HTC. :mad:
[EVO 4G General] sfox8:
Agreed. This is a known problem and its one of the biggest issues people are having with the EVO (i think people have more of a problem with this than with the screen/light leak issue, actually), so if you don't have a problem with it then no need to post and try to deter others from fixing it.

I would also be up for donating $10 to the dev fund if someone can get this fixed. That's honestly the ONLY issue I take with my EVO. It's like the elephant in the room ever since I bought it. Knowing that my Hero was so much smoother (albeit slower) just pains me because the EVO is such an amazing device otherwise. I'd hate to get talked down by my Verizon friends who will be carrying around Incredibles, Droid 2s and Xs, people with the Galaxy S and even iPhone 4 users just because my UI looks so jagged.

So please xda-devs, find a fix! The whole EVO community is counting on you!
[EVO 4G General] mrmomoman:
I don't play games and I watch only some movies so I don't notice it as much as some of you might.

I don't get all the hatred. They are controlling the experience for their target market which are not GAMERS but business users and the IPHONE users that might want to try something different.

Don't get up in ARMs about it - Chill Pill.

They are working on it and I am sure they will make a fix for it. Until then just enjoy it without trying to break it :)

I watch HD movies at 26-30fps which to me is smooth. The smoothness of the scrolling etc has nothing to do with FPS's but more so from code.
[EVO 4G General] kennyc1:
My iphone 2g is one of them that came out on release day more than two years ago. The sad part is my original iphone still scrolls and transitions much smoother than this supposed iphone killer.

I can see past the bad battery life, I can see past the aweful video quality, I can even see past my glass on my evo popping up near the home button.

But this 30FPS issue is where I draw the line.

I am fully aware that I will be taking a hit on quality/polishness when I move away from iphone. I never expected any company would look at the issue at hand and have the audacity to say this uber device is designed for 30 FPS!

HTC, are your pants smoking yet? Don't be so short sighted... You might make good money now and maybe even couple of years down the road.

But companies who cut corners never last.
[EVO 4G General] Mecha2142:
No, they're controlling the experience so they don't have to respond to criticisms of poor battery life. iPhone users will INSTANTLY notice the 30fps cap seeing how every iPod touch and iPhone scrolls and transitions faster than the Evo. Their target market is NOT business users. No way. It's a media consumption device; if it were geared toward business users, it would not have a massive 4.3 inch display. While Froyo might have a few new features for Android in general, the Evo has nothing to do with that.

We've got to get in arms about it because they won't do anything otherwise. Some people are claiming they're working on a patch, others are saying it's being kept as a 'feature'. If there are two sides, you really can't trust either side at risk of being screwed over by the manufacturer at the end.

And for goodness sake, HD video has absolutely NOTHING to do with the 30fps cap. Video never EVER plays faster than 30 frames per second. Video is an entirely different aspect than games and the user interface. Look at the Nexus One booting animation on the Nexus One versus the Evo. There is an obvious difference.
[EVO 4G General] mobilemaniac:
Hmm. That sounds like a clue. Are they using the same LCD panel?
[EVO 4G General] cosmocanyon:
The nexus 1 is an amoled and the evo is tftlcd
[EVO 4G General] realKURE:
Will The PSX Emulator Work With 30 FPS?

I've heard a lot of people say they don't need/want to use their Evo for gaming. As someone who does, I was wondering if the 30 FPS issue will affect the performance of the upcoming PSX Emulator for Android. Because if I can't use that, I definitely have a problem.
[EVO 4G General] jayv1717:
it will absolutely effect the performance..more then anything else..it will be a real laggy choppy unpleasant experience
[EVO 4G General] Roland Deschain:
The only reason TV/video gets away with 24, 26 or 30 FPS is because of motion blur. 30 FPS isn't good enough for ANYTHING unless you have motion blur; and motion blur is why when you pause a fast action sequence on a movie, it's blurry.

A 30 FPS cap on anything that doesn't include motion blur (anything but recorded video, basically) is very much inadequate. Play a first person shooter game that supports FPS limiting via the console and cap your FPS at 30, and you'll see what 30 FPS is REALLY like. It sucks, lol.

I'm kind of surprised HTC did this. An FPS limit actually makes sense because it can be used to conserve battery life, but the limit needs to be around 45-50 FPS so things are smooth.
[EVO 4G General] knives of ice:
if they are so concerned about battery life why do they preload the phone with so much goddamn bloatware? makes no sense at all.
[EVO 4G General] Roland Deschain:
They make money off of it. :)
[EVO 4G General] engagedtosmile:
The N1 runs at 60FPS and I don't see the battery being an issue.
[HD2 General] CristalDarkhoN:
Hello people.:D

This site is very amazing!;)

is a long time i look this beautiful site and google but i didnt the answer to my problem..

I have a HTC HD2 (hong kong version) ROM with original Asia (in English) "1.72.831.1 (82124) WWE"

I am satisfied with the original ROM

I just need two things ......

I live in Japan ...

I need use "Input Japanese" with hiragana, katakana and kanji, and configuration for MMS,WEB Softbank.

I tried CE-Star but the keyboard is very small and I use my hands, this is not an optimal solution for me ..

I also tried other methods, ooki etc., but there is not a good solution for me.

I hope can use original ROM + something for write in Japanese, possibly with a keyboard that suits his hands like HTC defoult, even better if it is just original HTC.

Unfortunately I can not find an original Japanese ROM for this handheld because as you know in Japan is not on the market.

Here there 'so many people prepared, I hope so much that "BeeGee_Tokyo" or others for the solution at my problem..

I just hope can write in Japanese with hands ..:(

Please Help Me!
[HD2 General] CristalDarkhoN:
solution: discard HD2..:(
[HD2 General] BumAround:
That's not a very smart solution.

Hey, check out this thread. These users, Joseng and dioxda2, have successfully did it for Chinese (traditional & simplified, even Hongkong/Cantonese characters)! You just need to PM them for Japanese fonts...voila! At least that's what I guess. :D
[HD2 General] CristalDarkhoN:
thancks for reply BumAround.

font are not a problem, i read japanese with no-problem.

My problem is:

I need to have keyboard (input) of Japanese characters ..

thank you anyway for your reply ..
[HD2 General] BumAround:
Well, read before you replied, my friend. :)

Why don't you go to the thread I was referring to and learn a bit about language pack. Maybe the users I mentioned know about Japanese IME (keyboard/handwriting input).

And yes, fonts matter, and you're gonna need them for display support.
[HD2 General] CristalDarkhoN:
ah, ok boy, very thanks for you reply -^
[HD2 General] noumic:
Japanese Support. 3.45 MB

megaupload FDTGVA26

ookii.org/software/

«« «« Celui DOIT etre Bon pour le jap JE l'est Verser mis AVOIR les jap texte d'origine et sa marche

He must be good for the jap is I HAVE been Pour the jap original text and its progress
[HD2 General] CristalDarkhoN:
hello,

I tried that solution but the keyboard is very awkward to use with my hands, I have very big fingers ...

thanks all the same anyway
[HD2 General] Dash STI:
Hi Guys,

I'm user of HT2 (T9193) with completely Japanese style. Reading and writing no issue at all:D

Although I have slightly bigger finger than you (:p), I can input correct word through keyboard, no problem.

I'm using FingerKeyboard. Thanks to all pioneers, we have a lot of skins for Japanese, too. (You can refer mine as attachment.)

Please try it.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wuclan48:
I'd like to root my Evo now that full root is out but I have a concern. When I got the phone initially I was unable to view Sprint TV. The reason turned out being that my number was ported from AT&T but the info in the phone itself did not reflect the correct info. It was solved by using one of the unlock codes and changing the phone number and msid. Will wiping and rooting the phone require me to make these changes again? If so, does someone know that unlock code? I don't remember it. (Need to be able to watch the World Cup at work.):p
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Albaholic:
I think you're looking for the MSL code.

Techwerkz wrote up a great guide on how to get your MSL here
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] apristel:
Rooting will not affect those settings. Don't worry about it.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wuclan48:
Awesome. Thanks to both of you.:)
[Droid Incredible General] contagous:
Here are some i've taken tonight, I take alot of sunset photos, with different settings just to see the outcomes. I did the same and still do the same with my Omnia and with my Digital Cameras to.

Enjoy and please feel free to post some of your own sunset photos to, taken with the Incredible of course :)

Here are some better outcomes :) thought you might wanna see them.

Using Camera 30

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/5849/c36020100615205540org.jpg

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/5201/imag0061ap.jpg

Hold Still little one :0

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/6400/c36020100615205916.jpg

Standard Camera

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/4466/imag0063i.jpg

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/3236/imag0064u.jpg

Posted as links as photos are big and don't want to lag the board :)
[Droid Incredible General] contagous:
Guess we have no sunset lovers lol, oh well good to know the camera can pull it off :)
[Droid Incredible General] das7771:
That looks pretty good for a phone camera. I will be receiving my phone today, It's good to know that I can takes some pics of sunsets over the Florida everglades.

Thanks for the post.
[Droid Incredible General] zalez:
I like the pictures :) Matter fact, would you be willing to share the original picture of this one:

c36020100615205540org.jpg
[Droid Incredible General] Reefhunter49:
Good pics!
[Droid Incredible General] contagous:
That is the original, See the original and the hdr effect copy (crazy bright) below:

HDR Effect

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/8016/c36020100615205540.jpg

Original

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5849/c36020100615205540org.jpg
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Big_O:
Where are browser downloads stored? Like to clear up some space. Not on the sd card.

Thanks
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DMaverick50:
Either use astro file manager and navigate to "downloads" or while in browser press "menu" then "more" then "downloads"
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clickwir:
Mine goto the sdcard under /downloads
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
mine go to the memory card as well, in a folder called downloads.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Big_O:
Thanks friends, had something strange happen. Thought something might be odd, so downloaded a jpeg as a test. Right after the download the "downloads" folder showed up on the sd card! Problem solved.

Appreciate the help :)
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] szainmehdi:
Okay.

Look at this picture:

You see how the background is only as far as the keys are and you get the white (or whatever color the bg is of the app your on) sidebar and bottom stripe?

You can't see that on the original LatinIME.apk.

See, this is the original.

Its that dark gray background on the LatinIME.apk that I want fixed on the Voice Keyboard.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] szainmehdi:
Come on, is no one gonna help me? I was told it was easy! I have no idea how to fix it, but I was hoping someone would!
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] urushiol:
I'm playing around with the APK a bit, its called "VoiceSearchWithKeyboard.apk", formery "VoiceSearch.apk" and "LatinIME.apk". I was hoping to find a transparent "Such_and_such_Image.png" in the new one, and the same image, only not transparent, in the old one. So far, I'm not seeing it. Perhaps its something deeper, something in the XMLs?

I can see you don't like the way it is now, but I think most people do, and I believe its working as intended.

Perhaps someone more experienced can help shed some light?

***Attached are the files in question***
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] urushiol:
In this post Konipub has a flashable zip for his rom with voice keyboard that doesn't have transparent background(atleast not in HIS pictures)

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6182240&postcount=2

So I removed all the key layout files from my phone because some of them had different names and I know the zip wouldn't over ride them; and I flashed it. It looks just like the one from darches google ****s. I don't know if konipubs picture is inaccurate, or perhaps the background file is actually a file from the framework-res? I almost feel like it must be. Will do some heavy digging tonight!
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] JakeCP:
: Disregard:
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] VinceOB:
Its probably in an .xml within the layout folder. That keyboard bugs me when its like that as well...I'd dig through the .xml's, but ive been too tired to even focus on it...Try the Droid X keyboard, its nicer.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] szainmehdi:
Thanks. I actually do have Froyo with CM6 Test Build 0 right now, but I think the VoiceSearchWithKeyboard.apk was removed.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] VinceOB:
I take it back, I think the problem is because the. .apk is for high resolution phones. I'm willing to bet there s an hdpi folder instead of mdpi. Yup, I was right this is for high Res phones. Its an easy fix.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] szainmehdi:
If it's an easy fix, do you think you can do this? Please say yes. :)

And I almost gave up all hope.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] szainmehdi:
Mods can delete this thread. No longer applies to CM Roms. Issue resolved.
[EVO 4G General] jeffrimerman:
I think there is abc mobile, but I don't think it is the abc that is on tv or is it? Anyone know?
[Omnia II Themes and Apps] prophet_in:
sorry its a dumb question but what actually is sbp mobile shell, does it replace the samsung UI , can i restore again to samsung UI if i dont like it please help i am new to win mobile device i own an samsung omnia b7610

pls help
[Omnia II Themes and Apps] Vostradamus:
Mobile Shell is, as its name says, a shell :) Basically, it gives you a completely new and highly customizable UI.

Of course you can go back samsung UI :) mobile shell can be uninstalled like every other app, and the device will just go back to how it was before :)
[Omnia II Themes and Apps] prophet_in:
thanks for you quick response but can you give me a step to step guide in installation and then bringing the orignal samsung ui back

also what about my installed applications will i loose them ? do i have to reindall them

sorry i ask a lot thanks anyways
[Omnia II Themes and Apps] Vostradamus:
no problem :) not much to describe though :p

- download spb mobile shell cab from spb homepage (it's a trial and will work for 2 weeks, after which you will have to register it if you wish to keep using it)

- copy the cab file to your device

- run it

- done, it's installed :)

to uninstall it, just go to remove applications and remove it, that's all :)

Installing / uninstalling it you will not lose any of your existing applications :)
[Desire General] Stewge:
This may seem like a dumb question, but I've searched the forums and can't find any info.

Is the Telstra version of the Desire locked or unlocked?

I ask because the "rooting guide"(lol at that every time.... :p) stickied in the development forum has 2 different methods depending on if the phone is branded/locked. It's obviously branded but I remember finding somewhere that it was unlocked.

If any other Telstra users have rooted their Desire feel free to chime in with your experiences ;)

Cheers
[Desire General] designermal:
Hey mate,

I got my Desire on contract from Telstra and it was delivered Unlocked.

Mal
[Desire General] Whiterin:
Bought mine in store, and it is unlocked. The Telstra Desires come unlocked... too bad they are packed full of Telstra garbage.
[Desire General] Stewge:
Yeh, I'm getting sick of my apps screen being cluttered up with their crap. Most of it is just internet links with icons...the least they could've done is written a nice android app to handle all their crap.

I've also noticed the Telstra links don't work on wifi because they try to access "wap.telstra.com/etc/etc/" which is only available while using the mobile network.....

Pretty keen on switching to a cleaned up rom. Especially looking for to busybox and proper linux style access. There's something satisfying about knowing you can ssh to your phone; Something I miss from my old jailbroken iphone 3g...don't hate, I got it for free :p
[Desire General] Ommadawn:
Seriously???? If this is the case, I'm truly surprised (and delighted).
[Desire General] qubz:
They should be unlocked if they are selling them outright to use on other networks. I bought mine from Telstra outright to run on the 3 network so I could slip my sim in and continue the one year to go HTC Diamond contract on the $29 ($150 calls) cap plan with $8 (500 Mb) plan. In the thread you mention, a few people are complaining that the guide is incorrect. If your looking to do a rootie tootie on it, go to modaco and follow the guide to the letter or you could get hit with a brickie wikki - http://android.modaco.com/content/htc-desire-desire-modaco-com/307365/14-jun-r6-riskfreeroot-htc-desire-rooting-guide-now-with-hboot-0-80-and-os-to-1-21-support/

oh, and I used the "0.80.xxxx or below" method as I had 0.75.xx boot-loader, 1.16.xx ROM/Build ;)
[General Questions and Answers] agb2008:
I am looking for source code example (C#,C++,FPC,VB.NET) on Windows Mobile platform (6.1 Pro) for sending / receiving SMS messages. There are

few examples around for GSM networks - but unfortunately they do not work

(especially sending option) over CDMA network that I am using. Are there any special settings or any other hints that have to be used in this case ? :confused: Thank you beforehand !