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[EVO 4G General] martouf13:
Same here, my EVO works perfectly fine... I have looked for issues that people have reported here and have no problems and cannot reproduce them. However, people need to realize that electronic devices do have a failure rate. Usually that rate is around 1%. This goes for anything from TV's to hard drives. I am sure there are several million EVO's sold already but lets just use 1 million... At 1 million devices being sold there will be roughly 10,000 faulty phones in one way or another; its impossible to make every phone perfect. This is why they have warranty's! So if you do have a REAL problem with the phone take it back and get a replacement or just take it back and get something else if it makes you that angry. This is NOTHING new when it comes to technology. I have run into this kind of thing with several different kinds of electronics throughout the years.
[EVO 4G General] n8dcj:
Neither do I , I use the phone all the time without actually holding it , it is usually laying on the table , bed , counter , bar stool , where ever...

Not to say it wont happen somewhere down the road , i have had none of the issues that have been reported so far , I ordered my phone from Sprint on the Friday they were released , so , I am not sure of which "hardware version" I might have.

Dan
[EVO 4G General] khov07:
Go to your settings menu, About Phone --> Hardware information --> Hardware version.

Mine's is 003, and I have none of the issues reported thus far.
[EVO 4G General] admorris:
If you have "always on mobile" unchecked, that will put your phone into a constant resetting mode. Checking back for me fixed the issue and made 0 difference in battery life. Give it a shot if you are one of the guys who unchecked this to save battery.
[EVO 4G General] n8dcj:
Thanks , i checked it and i have hardware version 002 , so we shall see....
[EVO 4G General] Xenithflare:
Working in sales, you come to realize that EVERY customer expects their electronics to last at least ten years, and that a 1% failure rate is unacceptable. To the average consumer, if one went bad, they're all bad. It's depressing :p
[EVO 4G General] AshMa:
Thanks but I already found this on the other thread and it did take care of that problem :D
[EVO 4G General] Hero's Hero:
I agree.

All perfect here :D
[EVO 4G General] sfox8:
I'm not sure if this goes for everyone but personally, I don't mind people posting and discussing their issues. Otherwise, how would the companies know that they need to be fixed (or the xda devs would never fix them). My annoyance comes from the people who constantly ***** and complain about the issues and then constantly ***** and complain about how they're going to "take back their EVO and never buy another HTC device again because HTC betrayed us!" And do it on every single topic. Then on top of that there's the ones who parade around the boards posting links to "better" phones like the Galaxy S or talk about how they're rather have an iPhone or an Incredible or a Droid X and do it on (yet again) pretty much every topic.

If you don't like your EVO or can't deal with the issues, then either discuss your problems in a civilized manner and try to contribute to getting them fixed or return the damn thing and get your money back. Don't go around the forums trying to persuade others and trying to cause a mass exodus to [insert your superior phone of choice and carrier here].

I think it's safe to say that if we are registered on xda, we are well aware of all of the high-end smartphones out right now, as well as those that are coming within the next few months most likely. We all know the Galaxy S has superior specs and an epically awesome screen, we all know the iPhone is perfect in every way possible with its display that exceeds human perception, we all know the Droid X is badass and can outperform the EVO because it doesn't have a stupid 30fps cap and you can play Doom, Halo, CoD and freaking WoW on it all at once. We don't need you trying to rub it in our faces attempting to get others to join you in your hate for everything EVO, HTC and Sprint. Some people are happy with their devices and it does exactly what they want and it does it well. It's obvious that if you're one of the people that does this, then you are just looking for others to tell the fact that you're about to give up an awesome device while hoping someone agrees that your next purchase will be better than that pos EVO that you just wasted $500 on. If that's the case then do us all a favor and DO IT and stop talking about it. You're not persuading anyone with even half a brain, anyway.

All that said (please note the high levels of sarcasm floating about), I definitely do not mind the people who have legitimate complaints and post because they want to get them solved. That's perfectly acceptable and welcome. I have a couple of the issues reported and would like them fixed too.

Basically what I'm saying is: Just don't be a douche about it.
[EVO 4G General] AshMa:
Food for thought: I have a defective Evo that I'm stuck with for a bit longer so I can't just go and return it. Why you ask? Because I bought it on a new Sprint contract from RadioShack which means I have to wait for RS to get new ones in. If I return it now, my contract gets terminated along with my 10 year old phone number, unless I port to another carrier because Sprint won't let you keep a number from contract to contract within Sprint (all carriers work this way).

Furthermore, if I want to go with another phone; Galaxy, Galaxy, Galaxy! :p Well then I have to wait for said phone to be released. So for now I'm still here, using my Evo and keep coming back here to try and get the most out of my Evo while I have it and because perhaps I may stick with a replacement Evo over the Galaxy, Galaxy Galaxy and iPhone, iPhone iPhone (echo effect to make sure you heard me).

More food for thought: You mentioned xda members being people in the know and THAT’S exactly the reason why asking about other phones here is a good idea. I for one want to know WHY you people in the know would go with an Evo over the Galaxy and iPhone 4G. I would rather know your reasons as opposed to those from say a dumbphone owner.

It's a choice to take peoples comments as being hostel or troll-like, but just keep in mind that some people just have all the same desires as you; to find the best device for them and the best device for them has nothing to do with trying to get others to like what they like (we're all adults here right?!).

And another thought while I'm at it: Say you own an AMG Benz and you're a member of a forum for that car. Along comes a guy who owns the same AMG Benz and then he starts making comments about selling the Benz and thinking about getting a Kia Sport something. Take that same scenario and replace the Kia with a BMW M series and ask yourself in which scenario are comments and people like you gonna bark? And then ask why is that and you'll see my point.......
[EVO 4G General] sfox8:
Thing is, there's a difference between simply inquiring about the pros and cons and differences between devices. Why is this device good, why is this not? Why would you chose this device over this one? Those are legitimate questions/concerns. When those questions/concerns turn into pompous comments that purposefully try to berate, then it becomes trolling. It's not hard to tell when someone is trolling or is just innocently inquiring.

In your car example, both instances sound kind of sketchy to me. Is he trying to contribute some kind of information or opinion? Is he repeatedly trying to let everyone on the forum know that he's dissatisfied with his Benz and is going for a Sport or M series because they are way better cars and the Benz is a piece of crap because some features are gimped? Is he trying to persuade others on the forum to join him and drop their Benzes as well? Is he purposefully provoking people with trolling comments?

There's differences between a person who actually has something to contribute and one who is just trying to troll. And trust me, if you want a perfect example of trolls, go to Engadget and click on ANY EVO article and just read through the comments for about 1 minute. You'll get the point.
[EVO 4G General] AshMa:
My main point was that I've read a lot of the threads here and I don't sense any trolls. Just about every post here about the Evo issues, are from people who purchased an Evo. Unless I'm mistaken, trolls don't buy what they bash. When you are secure and confident, words don't hurt anger or otherwise get in the way of the path you're on.

About the car analogy; the Kia would receive no heat from the Benz owners because it's not competition. Whereas the BMW is a competitor, something that some would argue is better. Same thing going on here! So heated in gadget world is the mine is better than yours, that even when nobody is starting trouble, trouble is still found by those who feel a need to defend a product they happen to own.

I really just don't get, getting upset over a product and not just a product but one in which will be history to most in 2 years time. I guess to sum it up for me, what I'm saying is that there sure are a lot of touchy and sensitive Evo owners on this forum. Relax folks! The Trolls are somewhere over there where the wild things are. We are all Evo owners (even if some of us end up being former Evo owners). An Evo Troll would never purchase an Evo to begin with. This isn't a dictatorship; let's here the good AND the bad.......
[EVO 4G General] daneurysm:
This is the internet, there are trolls in every corner. There are trolls in real life, they probably don't even know the term, but they are there. Go to a popular sports bar on a friday night, just observe people. There's some ****ing trolling going on left and right. Promise.

Somebody with a rabidly hyped gadget and even the smallest fanboy following will attract trolls, god forbid the device isn't absolutely perfect when it is rolled out. Then there will be lots of trolls.

...and some people troll just to troll, and a frantic slightly disappointed fanboy type is very easy to troll. I'm sure there are Evo-owning and Evo-loving people trolling the **** out of Evo owners.

If people were so against the device--either as an upset owner who doesn't want a fix but wants to bring it back, or someone who doesn't even own one and has nothing but trash to talk about it--why the **** would they frequent a board for enthusiasts?

To troll. Though, as someone else pointed out I'm willing to bet there are a handful with buyers remorse hoping to be convinced that they didn't make an idiotic purchase. Welcome to the bleeding edge of technology. That pain you feel is called the 'early adopters tax'.

All said I love this phone, it's amazing and it'll be even more so once that damned 30fps thing is resolved.
[EVO 4G General] AshMa:
That's a whole lot f-you-see-kays! Well I guess then by your logic, I must be a troll then but I swear I don't have a hairy back and big claws.

I'm an Evo owner who was super excited at first touch. So much so that after coming home with my new Evo I got online and wrote this that same day: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6697685&postcount=1887. Now not so much happy or rather I should say undecided; hence the reason for coming back here at all. Hearing all the good and bad comments made here, along with testing other devices, will help me figure out what's best for me. I really don't care if my choice is the popular one; I'm honestly putting down the iPhones popularity as a negative on my pros and cons. I don't need a room full of people to agree with my choices in an object made of plastic, metal, glass and silicon. But rather I'd like to see if I agree with that room full of people is reason enough to go to any forum.

Sports are a part of people’s lives in a much different and more passionate way. The day I see someone wearing an HTC t-shirt out around town is the day I'll eat my words. If people hopped from being a fan of one team to another, every 2 years, then teams wouldn't be so meaningful to those same people. But with devices that's just what we do, hopping from one to another and even hopping to different sports if you will, based on whatever comes out next that catches our eye.
[EVO 4G General] toastcfh:
WARNING

Keep it clean and watch the language or else I'm gonna issue some vacations. Let's be intelligent here. I don't mind the debate but some are acting like apes. again let's keep the debate clean. Thank you
[EVO 4G General] daneurysm:
I'm terribly sorry, I didn't mean to offend by dropping the effer so much.

Though someone coming from your point of view--especially on the day your came home with your device--is most certainly not a troll. I myself have no fully decided whether to keep the device or not. I love it, and it is insanely fast, and that effing screen is beautiful. It's the perfect size for a touch-screen smartphone, in my eyes. It performs amazingly at everything, I even see no performance problems with all of the games everyone seems to think are unplayable. I'm not an FPS hound, however. Though when compared next to an Incredible it really looks rather pathetic, regardless of the fact that it is performing exactly as fast. It just isn't as fluid. This was one of the things I loved about the Incredible. One of those things I did not like however was the candy-bar shape. Guh.

The Trolls are the people who will say something knowing full well it will raise the ire of someone else. When you have someone who picked a team (to use your analogy) and is supportive of said team it's rather easy to get under their skin, especially when some chinks have been revealed in their armor.

I myself didn't pick a team so much as a (to stick with your analogy) league, the sport being 'smart phones'. HTC would be the division I suppose.

I have no allegiance to any particular team or division in this league. Having come from a Samsung Moment this phone is absolutely thrilling. However, what isn't so thrilling is that the graphic fluidity isn't even on par with that device which was sub-par the day it came out.

What really pisses me off is that HTC has decided that this is not a 'bug' so much as a 'feature', effectively eliminating any recourse on our part and any obligation to fix it.

That is insulting. As much as I love the phone, the form factor and it's (remaining) fantastic performance if this is found to be a hardware limitation (or not resolved and no progress is made) I will be returning it on July 4th...okay, probably July 3rd.

However, I have much faith in the XDA community. They have provided me with so much extended functionality for my devices that I have no doubt that it will be resolved, hardware limitation notwithstanding.

(the fact that the froyo boot animation is clearly far over this 'cap' gives me much hope....I won't say it's 60fps, but it's well above 30)

Oh, and I have absolutely seen someone (at a sports bar no less) wearing an HTC shirt...though I've never seen another ;)
[EVO 4G General] daneurysm:
I find it absolutely offensive that using expletives is considered 'ape like', as if to say they don't help accentuate a point or somehow detract from intelligence therein. That's just absurd.

That said I wasn't aware that this forum had such rules in place, and as a very thankful and devoted reader I apologize for my transgression and will be sure to abstain from the practice in the future.
[EVO 4G General] toastcfh:
Well your post isn't the only one in this thread that violate the rules of xda. I was issuing a warning to all the offending posters here including you.

But yes thank you for taking attention to your language in the forums. Makes my job a little easier ;)
[EVO 4G General] AshMa:
Hmm......I wasn't able to get NOVA to work on my Evo and that ticked me off because I was looking forward to trying it out after reading about what a great FPS game it is. Something about the a lot of the new Gameloft games not working with the Snapdragon. So I've not tried any games other than Uno and a few others.

Well, it sounds like some of your same likes and dislikes are right in sync with my own. I too do not like the candy bar sizes if you're reffering to how narrow some devices are. That is something I've wondered about the Galaxy and iPhone.

The Evo shell size and screen size are perfect to me (although I do wish it was thinner and that the camera lens was flush or closer to flush; I know, no device is perfect) then that to me would be the perfect size and I would be happy to see devices come in that size for many years to come.

And just like you not being sure whether to keep or return yet you're still on this forum is just like me as well, yet neither of us are trolling. I really do like a whole lot about the Evo. But as pointless as some people find it to talk about what we don't like; I thought it pointless to come here and tell you all how much I love the screen because it's so big and beautiful when you're all looking at the exact same screen as I am, therefore you already know it.

I already took a hit on getting the HD2 a few months ago on a new 2-year contract and so I don't want to keep being so wasteful by doing the same with Sprint. So I'm trying to decide before the 30 days is up which not only depends on other phones coming out soon but also on what HTC is going to do or not do about the screen issues, fps and releasing Froyo, etc. But YES this is a great phone in many ways even with the issues people like me are having with it......

BTW' I don't like to curse much but I respect the right of others to do so and so I was just joking with the comment I made above. :p
[EVO 4G General] sfox8:
Oh trust me, I've never been one to get offended just because someone doesn't like something that I like. That's my main issue with about 90% of the commenters on blogs like Engadget or Gizmodo or what have you. If people would stop getting offended and trying to tear each other down for their likes and dislikes, then the tech community would be a better place.

But still, there are those who do purposefully and knowingly say things just to incite a negative reaction out of people. And I actually have seen some here, though when I originally posted my reply to this thread, I was referring more to ALL tech blogs and forums in general (that I've been to) that have people just coming in to bash on the EVO and say how much it sucks and they can't wait to return it for [insert phone here]. Or [insert phone] is better and how all the EVO owners should've gotten [insert phone] because then they wouldn't have [insert random EVO issue] to worry about.

It's not jealousy, it's not anger, it's just annoyance with the petty trolling. If you're gonna do something then do it. If not, then stop **talking (you can fill in the blanks. hope the way i typed that is acceptable hehe).

Nobody here has a problem with competition. After all, without it, the EVO, Incredible, Galaxy S/Pro, Droid 2 and Droid X and even the iPhone4 would not exist in the state that they are today. Just don't try to provoke people with childish playground banter. Naturally, it only gets on peoples' nerves.

Edit: And going off of your sports analogy, I actually think that's a GOOD analogy for a lot of tech enthusiasts. A lot of them actually DO get attached to a certain company (or team) and fall into that stupid brand loyalty crap. Then you get immature people like the iSheep and the Fandroids and the Winboys (whatever you want to call each kind haha).
[EVO 4G General] zone23:
I have NOVA on my EVO and it plays fine. The people I showed it to were impressed. I guess thats why I don't understand all of this but what do I know it still looks great to me.
[EVO 4G General] AshMa:
Do you know the version you have, did it come from the Gameloft site? After I installed it, it would launch and then close out and go back to the home screen. I read many others had the same problem and that it had to do with the Snapdragon CPU as it worked on non Snapdragon devices. Confusing to me.......I'm not really into gaming on smartphones but I'd really like to see how well the Evo does 3D gaming.
[EVO 4G General] AshMa:
Aside from Apple, I didn't know there were diehard Samsung, HTC or Motorola fans. Then again I guess this site is for HTC fans.....Well I guess I could see people moving to another brand much easier than getting me to go from the Lakers to the umm.....what's that other teams name that starts with a C?! Heehee :D

Well, it's good to know that even though we don't all agree on everything, that we can still communicate like adults from the human race......oh wait.....that's not really saying much in 2010.......
[EVO 4G General] joshuadb20:
I just noticed i have this issue also, it doesn't seem to affect me really, I just would like to have an evo with a working front cam and a screen with no vertical lines in it and some more inventory so i dont get closer to the 30 day return period.
[Droid Incredible General] korric:
I read here

androidforums.com/htc-incredible/88993-gamepad-microusb-bluetooth-incredible.html

that the gamepro gamepad works with HTC incredible using their latest drivers.

Can anyone verify??

GamePro - Android Trial is the app and such

He said he used this

MSI BGP100 bluetooth gamepad.

Thanks!
[Droid Incredible General] Zabii:
Yes it works, I think he is charging a bit much though, ten dollars for a cheap ass driver?
[Droid Incredible General] LegionTHEFecalExcretion:
Really? Ive been looking all over for a bluetooth gamepad solution and several other Incredible owners have told me directly the msi-bgp pad and that app do not work. We simply dont have the right bluetooth stack on our phones.
[Droid Incredible General] korric:
Well, mymobilegear.com/showthread.php?t=18203&page=2

The guy says he got it to work on incredible using their new beta software. Someone try it out for me? They are giving away beta keys for testing.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ramjet6:
I just bought a tp2 from Sprint. After setting up my email accounts and using the phone for a few days, and talking to Sprint support, I discovered that the phone does not support deleting emails from the server even though there is an option on the phone to do just that. If this is true then I will have to delete them from my computer even though I've already reviewed them. Has anyone else had this issue/ found a way around it?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dbtfree:
Are you using IMAP or POP3? If you are using POP3, I don't know that there will ever be and answer to that. that is why I switched to IMAP. My sent messages and any changes I make are synched between phone, server, and desktop. The only problem is if you use a lot of folders, I am still trying to figure out a way for it to alert me when a new mail arrives in a folder other than the main folder. . ..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ramjet6:
Thanks, I'm afraid it's POP3 for me. Looks like no joy.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dbtfree:
Where's your email through? May still be able to switch if you want.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ramjet6:
My email comes through Godaddy. Thanks, does that help?