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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Oh kallt, just been playing with the latest CM6 nightly, noticed it has a really nice DSP app in cyanogenmod settings, how hard would it be to shoehorn that into another build? I'd have a look myself, but I really have little insight into the inner workings, much better at the general support stuff, ( you know, the real easy stuff ;) ), really it makes my music sound AWEsome, and I'd love some ear candy to go with all this eye candy :)

( You have no idea how good some nice Dubstep sounds with bass boosted, compression on, and large hall reverb )....

Found some info here: http://bel.fi/~alankila/android-dsp/
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] noside12123:
Well yeah i know that but i need someone to post the sysinit.rc so i can edit and test it and put it into an androidupdate.tar file. Because I dont have ubuntu atm. Lol. Too lazy to install it. But btw. Great build kallt_kaffe!!!!!

EDIT: Due to my stupidity, and not remembering that i could just simply extract the .tar file. NEVER MIND ..... LOL
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Don't know why people don't just use 7-zip for extracting, and crimson editor for editing the files, no need for linux, unless you are actually compiling stuff ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] noside12123:
Lol yeah. I was just sitting at my laptop until I remembered I could simply extract it with 7-zip. No linux required. But I'm testing the "setprop ro.HOME_APP_ADJ 1" Set to 1. Works great! Still testing though. But at least no more annoying reloads.

EDIT: Awh,. Still did the reload thing. Well, at least I tried. It gets annoying sometimes but ill get used to it. Why does it do that anyways???
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] scooter1556:
I have used ADW launcher with 'system persistent' box ticked in ADW's system settings which i;m guessing does the same modification as you have tried but can't be sure, i rarely have a home screen reload apart from maybe after installing a large app which has caused market to run slow or using a particularly large navigation app (although still not very often if at all). This may be because my homescreen has only 2 widgets and a few icons and i only use 1 screen so it's small enough to stay in memory virtually all of the time. The more you have going on in your homescreens the more likely it is to get knocked out i guess.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mandaglio:
Thank you

Thank you very much! you were right, I changed the panel to 2 and it worked. You want to put an android rom and remove windows
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Vytelo:
Awesome!

Thanks for this superior Android build :eek:

But there's one strange thing: when I press power button, nothing happens. If I press for a little longer, when I get menu with options like plane mode, shutdown, reboot. It worked before I started playing with settings :) So now I'm forced to wait 15 sec in order to get screen off (and phone locked).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] flinx42:
Just for completeness/reference, as it seems to affect both Fresh Froyo and VaniljEclair equally (possibly due to the same kernel used), I've reported at length my observations of these hanging here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=7596855&postcount=675

For me the issues with power management and hanging (not able to wakeup) are now far greater than any feature in the OS still missing or not fully working.

Note that this isn't just a problem of panel type as such i.e. I've got the best one.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mnjm9b:
just to note...

I have had NO issues of power managment or wake issues on my kaiser with ANY Android build.

currently using VanijEclair and a froyo build compiled from dzo's source

with an nbh built from zimage that was also

compiled from dzo's latest source.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] qkall:
i think it might have something to do with temperature.... like i work in a factory where its like ~110 F most of the time... if i leave my kaiser in the office its fine... but as soon as i walk out to the plant with it... it doesn't wake up. i've noticed similar behavior on hot summer days
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cb2002:
I definitely have similar issues for my Kaiser. Sometimes it would wake up and hang on the white/static screen. Some times it would not wake up at all, just black screen and I need to use the pen to push the reset button. Sometimes it occurs on incoming call and the phone tries to wake up.

Quite often the reset needed would corrupt the NAND and just lost contacts/settings or having app force close constantly after a long slow boot. To fix the phone when it is in that state requires reinstallation from scratch.

It really does affect the stability and usage of the phone. I have not had any build running for more than a week or two without reinstallation.

Thus it is number one issues for me to have a stable phone.

The issues occurs in any Android build I tried, some more often than others.

We definitely have come a long way for Android on Kaiser. Pretty much all the major features we need are there. Kudos to all developers and contributors for the awesome work.

Now we just need to work together on making it more stable.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Szata76:
Hi!

Could I use this package to run Eclair under WM, without install it to anywhere? I'd like to remain WM untouched.

Many thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] spiritssight:
Android & Hardware

Hello All & Devs,

Could you please make the best recommendation for hardware for running Android? My AT&T Tilt has gone to the grave yards for the rest!

I would like to get a phone that would work on AT&T network and has a keyboard. I will do a contract with them to get it (don't have much money)

or is there any rooted verions of Android for any of the AT&T verisons? and which one would be best hardware/keyboard?

God Bless,

Christopher
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] flinx42:
Yes, I think temperature could be involved, but not necessarily from the environment!

A few times my phone was simply lying on the desk and the temperature in the room is just about 25deg C (77F), however at least in a few cases I noticed that the phone was (very) warm - way warmer than the room.

So, this looks to me to be more self-inflicted than anything. I.e.

- some process might have still run, despite it being in standby and possibly using up a lot of CPU

OR

- the keyboard light was on, despite it being closed (no idea whether that's possible in the first place)

Maybe one question to ask is whether this happens only to the Kaisers..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] flinx42:
Nice to hear that it CAN run alright.

So if any Android build is fine with yours, but neither are fine on mine, does that further the finger pointing at the kernel?

Did you use the sources from the 26 July build as posted by dzo?

And especially if so, have you made any changes to the kernel code or the way you're compiling it, which might make it different to "official" dzo kernel NBH?

Maybe you could post your kernel NBH for us to try?

I certainly would give it a go!

However, I'm still wondering whether this is possibly related to what is running on phone before it goes into sleep, i.e. a rogue widget or other permanent process, that (as mentioned in previous post) over-stresses and over-heats the phone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] fedonat:
sync SIM Contacts

man.. i had a problem to sync the SIM contacts..

i go to import, it processes the sync but gets stuck on the last contact to copy, and then copy no one..

do you know how to solve it? thx!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] fedonat:
P.S: i noticed now that when you dial the number, it appears the name..but i cant see on the contact list..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mnjm9b:
I built the zImage from repo.

that was sometime last week.

the only changes I made was to put back the "Owner" module so I can use droidwall to configure iptables.

but I have never with any kernel, had any power problems.

sometimes I need to calibrate the battery but aside from that its all been good.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] flinx42:
Hey mnjm9b,

I've read a few things re battery charging on the Android forums and as I understood there is a problem with the phones not being able to charge when switched off.

As you mention calibrating the battery, I'm just wondering how you manage to do that if it can't be charged after it's run down to nothing.

Either way, I've had these issues even relatively soon after unplugging it from the charger, where I really would have expected it still to have some charge left.

So, do you think it's worth trying your kernel NBH?

And if so, are you willing to post it here?

Thanks for your help
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Vytelo:
Wake Up really sucks :mad: I wasn't able to unlock the phone and to turn off the alarm :D Only restart with stylus helps.

Also there's something wrong with battery indicator. Sometimes it shows 15% left then there's ~70%. :confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] leona:
I have reported this before in another thread, I thought I must be the only once since I didn't get any replies.

I noticed that when I slide my keyboard out when the device in sleep, the keyboard light was on, it seems its on all the time, it doesn't seem to turn off. Ironic really as in Windows Mobile, I couldn't get the thing to turn on!

I've asked SuperJMN to add it to his growing list of 'issues'.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pxoeb6mU:
Given that the adb connection via usb doesn't seem to work, could you please replace the adbd in initrd.gz with the adbd from SDK\platforms\android-7\images\ramdisk.img?

And add a post install script to allow configuration of service.adb.tcp.port in build.prop (and directly set it, kill adbd and restart it).

That allows adb connections over wlan using "adb connect ip:port" on the PC...

Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] flinx42:
If there really isn't a simple physical switch that directly kills the light when keyboard is retracted, then the next question would be how to tell whether it is on or not.

The old question with the fridge light... is it on, when the door is closed :)

I just had another hanger over lunch (worked before lunch, dead after). Phone was in the pocket during.

However, it didn't feel as warm as I've found it in a few other occasions.

I've got both system and data on NAND, which I gather is more likely to be stable. Even if it increases the risk of data loss during these hanger/crashes.

However, since I've been pulling battery, rather than pressing reset, I've not yet had a loss of data issue as far as I remember.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] leona:
You would think it would be the same trigger that rotates the screen, it seems to detect the the keyboard is slid out and rotates the screen, you would think the same 'trigger' would turn the keyboard light on and off, if not maybe we could have an option in the 'power bar' to turn it on and off manually :)

Found this little gem in an Android Wiki
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mnjm9b:
I guess I should consider myself lucky...

if my battery runs down, all I do is plug it in.

it will light up for a second, then turn off, after a several seconds it will automatically turn on bootanimation and then everything is normal.

I just leave it connected the whole time, let it charge full (according to dmesg not meter) and that it.

I used to have to follow strange voodoo procedures to charge after shutdown but I haven't needed to do that for a very long time.

I don't think my kernel would be any different for your problem but I posted it here :Custom Kernel for Droidwall on Kaiser
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] flinx42:
OK, I shall try the non-voodoo version over the weekend - I've already been hearing this voice "come back to WM", but I guess a bit more experimenting is in order :)

Re your "special" kernel: Thanks for that! I've used NBH so far, but I'm sure I'll find some instructions on how to convert it..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cb2002:
Hmm, I wonder if there is a code execution difference between pulling the battery and pushing the reset causing the data lost and corruption. I remember in earlier version of the kernel it didn't support pressing the reset.

Unfortunately I have the battery taped to the phone since the back cover is loose and fall out all the time.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mnjm9b:
if you use ubuntu you can use my NBHCreator to make the nbh from zImage.

however, Like i said before, I don't believe there is anything that mine does that the standard dzo nbh's wouldn't provide in terms of power management.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] flinx42:
Unfortunately I've only got OpenSuse and M$ Windoze of various versions.

And Suse didn't seem to know how to handle a .deb file via GUI. rpm didn't want it, so I'm stuck there.

I've found the Semi automagic Android NBH creator (Linux) from LoveMyPhone, but haven't been able to see a straightforward way on how to feed that your zImage.

So, I'm running out of time for this morning and will have to continue with the phone as it is for now. I might try LoveMyPhone's script later tonight or so.

Having just had another hanger in VaniljEclair10 (15min after it was still working), I might as well go back to Froyo at least for the better Exchange support.

Or back to WM :S for a few days of no hanging, until dzo comes up with a new kernel NBH...

Thanks in any case
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] immolo:
Use yast to install wine in suse then use the nbh editor in this forum but follow the instructions for setting up winetricks and dotnet as well.

If you need more detailed help I can when I get back from work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cnigro1279:
Wow....

I've tried many different Builds from donut to froyo for my kaiser and this one takes the 'cake' (bad pun intended). I truly thank you Kalit for extending the life of my device. HTC makes some excellent hardware, no doubt. Without yourself and all of the devs and contributors here at XDA, it would be just a phone.....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Rosered:
thx for the build

but I have a little problem my APN is sometime missing

after reinstalling the settings it's back when I turn it off most of the time

it return back but sometimes it won't return then I must reinstall the settings again

and I dit save the settings

Kisses

Rose Red
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] flinx42:
Thanks for the tip there!

I've not got much time till Sunday, but I'll have a closer look then.

When you said nbh editor, did you mean the NBHCreator for Ubuntu from mnjm9b or something else?

The only nbh editor I'm aware of is the one from loserskater and that's for when you already have an NBH. In any case, that one runs on Windows, which I've got native..

Just as an update to all:

Instead of escaping back to WM, I tried something I'd not done in a while. I flashed stock rom (WM6.1 Orange UK), before I flashed dzo's last Kaiser NBH 26July again (edited with the NBH editor as usual still V3.6.3). And I decided to up to VaniljEclair 10B as it's newer (than Froyo).

I've not used the phone much today, but so far no hangers...

(now it's probably going to hang in the next 2min ;-) )

UPDATE: Well that was funny, as per next post it still woke up, but then died of thirst :D

Forgot to mention that based on the stock rom flashing my radio is back to 1.65 from that stock rom, not the 1.70 I'd been using for quite a while now on both WM and Android.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] flinx42:
Well, as it so happens, my battery just died. Phone had been off charge for about 14h and not used a great deal at all.

Tried to switch on again, but it wouldn't do anything.

So I stuck the charger cable in and as you say it came briefly on and then seemed to go all silent again.

I pressed the power button, but nothing happened.

A short while later I see the animated X and soon after Android lock screen greets me.

And now the really cool bit:

In the lock screen it reports the battery as 74% charged :D

Cross-checked with dmesg and that says the same. It's now past midnight, so I leave it till tomorrow lunch time on the tap.

Right now it doesn't look recalibrated to me - should that come after it's been fully charged again???
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] noside12123:
One question real quick.

When my phone is off, and I plug in my charger, it turns on and a white screen pops up for like literally a millisecond then goes back to what it seems like its off, but I poened my keyboard and the FN keys and CAP/SHIFT when I press it the lights come on . So basically whenever I plug my phone in to charge it turns on by itself.

Sorry for repeat. I forgot to search :P
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mnjm9b:
the part in dmesg you want to pay attention to is the amount of current being charged to the battery. not the percentage. it can say 100% but if it is still pumping current then it is not really 100%.

you should see it drop to around 0ma before disconnecting.

actually I am sure that anything under 100 is probably a sign of full or near full.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] alinescoo:
I really love this release but I have issues starting the GPS. I enable it but no icon is present in titlebar. I really need GPS as I am trying to develop an application that uses it. Please help me with a solution. Using Polaris with latest radio
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] flinx42:
Right!

Last numbers I saw were:

13mA

12mA

13mA

-64mA

-8mA

Yes, minus for the last two. Is that normal?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mnjm9b:
there will be no icon in title bar unless an application calls for it.

did you try running maps?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mnjm9b:
yes negative numbers mean it is using power and no longer charging. it will show much more if you unplug it. around -250ma +/-
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] raface:
I have seen everything on this thread. I was able to get everything working just fine. This build is great. I am just wondering how can I sync my kaiser with the PC to see my SD CARD and put files from the PC? I was not able to find a solution. Thanks in advantage for the help.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] muscles:
What should these settings be for AT&T?

- default_network.sh

- hsxpa.sh

- gprsclass.sh
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] GuySparkz:
how easy is it to go from hyperdragon ROM in my sig to this Android ROM? is there any recommended android 2.2 ROMs for the att tilt? Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
It should be straightforward on that combination, hardspl and radio are both perfect, and my recommendation would be either kallt's here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=715402, or his Eclair from this thread.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] idream10000:
Nice work, mate. I am having problems with Wifi on my Kaiser. It says 'unable to scan for networks.' what might the problem be? I am with Australian 3 network and I flashed my kaiser using radio 1.71.xxx and hard spl 3.34 as suggested in another thread in this forum. I am also having the same problem when flashing with other builds except for the Eclair 2.1 posted months ago. Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] salooo:
i am using this android from sd but i have very poor battery on this ... i changed my radio to 1.70.xx and after that i came back to 1.65.24.36 which is perfect in my country gives best battery in windows rom.. in android i can make only one call of one hour or only 5 to 6 songs then it says connect to charger and when return back to window my battery meter say 0 percent and turn itself switch of..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
Android does use a lot of battery, even "real" Android phones. You can get a little more by forcing 2G.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dsmturbo:
I have been playing with this release, and I like it. but, no matter what I try, I can not get sd card to mount. I have even installed sd share(dual mount?), jr automount, and still same as if I hadn't installed any other apps to mount sd, when I try to click usb connected and mount card, I get sd card removed.

Card is partitioned.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Huuhu:
I really love this release and thank you for it. It's working currently great on my HTC Polaris but the only thing that doesnt work is the camera. I cant take pictures nor video. The camera displays a green and different color screen. If you could find a fix for it i would be greatfull. Thanks in advance!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Your not alone, I've never been able to mount my SD card via USB, but I have seen a few discussions of various apps that may work.

Not sure about polaris, but I do know that there have been some issues using a froyo kernel/nbh on older builds, specifically camera issues, perhaps try an older eclair nbh/kernel rather than a newer froyo one.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dsmturbo:
I actually did have sd card mounting before, but I had to redo install and now, no matter what I try, as soon as I connect USB cable, notice says Removed SD card
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] noside12123:
Can i use "kaisimg-panel2-320-tilt-froyo-26-07-10.nbh" for this build???

And is it possible to get more RAM? Or How to setup the compcache
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mnjm9b:
does anyone know what fixes were made to dzo's froyo that speed up the phone app?

and would it be a usable fix to apply to VaniljEclair?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
That was a kernel hack asfaik so I suppose it may have an effect on all Android versions and builds.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mnjm9b:
Thats what I thought but it does seem to work a lot better for froyo.

eclair still seems to lag a bit on incoming calls.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vinny13:
I noticed this build freezes here and there in "Messaging" which can be really annoying... One time it froze while I pressed SEND and my friend received "Got any weed?" about 40 times :/

And it always lags whenever you return to the homescreen for me too...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Did he have any? :D

You could try setting 'keep launcher in memory' in Spare Parts, which does help with launcher lag, try using taskiller, it may help keep the system more responsive, most of the time the lag is caused by android looking for memory to allocate to the new task you just launched, so anything you can do to save memory is a bonus sometimes.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] noside12123:
I use this app called "Handcent SMS" Its alot better than the regular messaging app.

Hey Zenity I kinda edited your sig a little Haha Thanks.