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[HD2 General] DECIM8:
I have been using a 4GB class 6 card I had laying around and I have seen a difference as well. I copied all the data from the 16GB card to my computer then copied it to the 4GB card to start out with. I saw a big improvement in the momentary freezes that occur when navigating the UI, music indexing and video playback. After using that card for a couple weeks I copied everything back to the 16GB card after formatting it and popped it back in to see if it was a placebo effect. Things were noticeably different, it just felt more sluggish at times. The Class 2 card isn't bad and it isn't the whole problem but getting a better card does change things a bit.

I did pick up a couple 8GB class 6 Sandisk cards for about $10 not to long ago for my camera. The 16GB and 32GB cards aren't as economical yet. The improvement is worth $10-$20 dollars to me but not $60.
[HD2 General] sherlockpwnz:
how can i tell if my other card is a class 4 or not
[HD2 General] sirphunkee:
It'll be printed right on the front of the card...a little number inside of a circle. If you dont see one there, odds are it's a class-2
[HD2 General] jasecloud4:
Panasonic makes a Class 10...that's what I use lolol...

~Jasecloud4
[HD2 General] KruseLudsMobile:
Class 6 vs 2 Photo... (Micro SDHC Card)

There is no such thing as a Class 10

Look at the photo (CLICK ON THE PHOTO TO ENLARGE IT AND SEE THE DIFFERENCE) FOR THE Speed Class Designation. I guess the standard spec does not say which way is right-side up for printed labels!

Class 6 is the highest speed currently. There are 32GB cards out there (which the unit can support) but they are VERY expensive. The Class 6 card I bought was somehyting like $60 with the shipping from Newegg.com.

Also notice that it is such a damned nightmare to be able to read these ever so tinier labels on everything out there! (Or maybe it's also because of my age.)

It is true, also, that those without the class specification are much older - and slower, I guess they should all be lumped in presumably with class 2
[HD2 General] sirphunkee:
You might want to have a look at THIS and THIS...class-10 16GB cards do exist and are currently available. Jase doesn't usually just make crap up either :p
[HD2 General] KruseLudsMobile:
Wow Class 10 - !

Sorry, my bad, I guess there is Class 10 now! YIKES! My apologies
[HD2 General] scrizz:
PWND!

sweet I didin't know there were class 10 either.

Guess I am going to pick one up soon.
[HD2 General] rickyoon.vegas:
No one is pwning anyone.

Just merely stating the fact.
[HD2 General] secano:
$100...Hope they become cheaper!
[HD2 General] JediFonger:
thanks for this thread... i totally didn't realize there were speed diffs on microSD cards.

so a few questions then:

1. the new 32GB sandisk microSD is only class 2... i assume no other manufactures are out yet, especially with a class 6 or 10. this is the very end of the SDHC standard. the next upgrade will be all SDXCs.

2. will a class10 be better than a class 6? i always thought that there are spec. limitations to SD card readers itself. does anyone know what the max limit of the HD2 SD card reader is? class 6 or 10? because if it's class 6, then buying a class 10 would be useless.

i remember that older SD card readers can't read the SDHCs.
[HD2 General] speoples20:
1. I haven't seen any class 6 32gig cards but there will be some eventually.

2. Technically class 10 is faster than class 6 but unless you run everything off your sdcard and have a ton of music/video I doubt it would be worth it. If you were going to be using a 32gig card then a class 10 would probably be worth it, though I don't know if the HD2 supports that speed.
[HD2 General] jasecloud4:
Thanks for the "usual" lolol...

To be honest I've got the class 10 Panasonic, and a class 6 Kingston, (both 16gb [32gb models are ridiculously expensive]) and when you run them side-by-side in a phone, there really isn't a difference in everyday use that I can tell. Class 6 is plenty fast for a phone. But there's always people like me in the world who aren't afraid to fork over the extra money to see if the latest tech will get me a little extra speed. :p

For those on the ropes as to what to get: if your just listening to music, Class 2 is good; for video, class 4 is good; if your non-stop music and video all day everyday work and play, and have some extra cash Class 6 rocks.

For all of you nut jobs like me who care about the extra microseconds of speed, lolololol, and have the money to spend...get the Class 10...

~Jasecloud4
[HD2 General] ryan562:
the first thing i did for my hd2 was upgrade to a class 6 from previous experience with rooted android handsets (where upgrade to class 6 is always recommended
[HD2 General] jas0nw0ng:
would a class 10 or a class 6 improve battery life?
[HD2 General] drew2000:
Thanks for the thread and the informative posts, I guess I will make sure to get at least a class 6 for my media heavy device.
[HD2 General] jas0nw0ng:
Also, if I were to buy one, which companies are reliable? Or are they all pretty much the same? I've only heard of SanDisk and Kingston because I've met the co owner of Kingston and he gave me some free stuff before.
[HD2 General] sirphunkee:
I would just stick with sandisk or kingston anyway, they're both as reliable as any, and usually priced right along the lesser-known maufacturers.
[HD2 General] d0ug:
So for anyone who has used both a class 6 and class 10 card IN THE HD2, is there a speed difference? I have a paypal coupon code that is good for 25% off, and am eyeing some of the class 10 kingston cards on ebay which would come out to about $74 with this coupon code. Not very much more than a class 6, course i could just use the coupon code for a class 6 off ebay too. I would like to go the 32gb route, but seems everything 32gb is class 2 =(
[HD2 General] Tm5078:
ive heard those class 10 are not better then class 6's in some cases they write slower then class 4's
[HD2 General] :
I've already posted that I have BOTH 6 and 10's and I have used BOTH in my HD2. There really is no difference, except for price lolol.

~Jasecloud4
[HD2 General] Buza75:
newb question and i apologize for asking this, but what would i need to copy contents from one card to the other?
[HD2 General] sirphunkee:
A pc to copy the card contents to/from. Just move the files off one card, replace the card, and then just copy the files over to the new one.
[HD2 General] gcontr1:
On replacing m SD will SD installed programs work?

Most of my programs are installed to the mSD card, will they work after copy and paste to the class 6 card?
[HD2 General] speoples20:
They should because the file paths are the same. I had a few programs installed on my card and copied the files off to reformat then put them back on and they all worked.
[HD2 General] JediFonger:
so... does any1 know if the HTC HD2 supports class 10 or 'only' 6?
[HD2 General] sirphunkee:
Yes....in fact you'll notice above that jasecould mentions using a class-10 in the HD2.
[HD2 General] ilordvader:
Will we see a 32gb MicroSD Class 6 or 10

anytime soon , hoping this year ?
[HD2 General] fflakes:
I haven't done tests for this, but I've read that if you reformat the sd card with "SD Formatter" made by the sd association, it functions faster. I haven't personally noticed much lag after taking a picture (unless 0.3 sec is a long time)
[HD2 General] rysky007:
Looking around on line for diff cards, I notice some say TF Micro SD SDHC, what is the TF part? or does that not matter?

Thank you.
[HD2 General] JediFonger:
i bought a trascend class 6 microSD card and just copied all my old sandisk class 2 card over to the new card and my older HTC Hermes (using CRC 13.5 normal) is unbelievably faster. obviously, it's not getting a new phone like HD2 faster. but damn i've been MISSING OUT! how come no one talks about this SOONER?

the only benefit is things are cheaper now, i think i bought mine for around $40-ish.
[HD2 General] maxpower097:
I'm useing the stock 16GB card and havn't noticed any skipping on video's or games installed on the card at all. One thing I wanted to mention in this thread is SD cards are about the most copied and pirated item in existance. A consumer report site went and bought 6 Sandisk SD cards from wallmart, bestbuy, ebay, amazon, Target, and somewhere else. The exact same model number and card. Turns out 5 of the 6 were chinese knock offs and the one legit one came from amazon. These people mislabel, bump specs, and lie all the time on their cards. The thing is they are even finding the knock offs in major retailers shelves here in the states. So that Class 6 SD card may really be a Class 2 with a 6 printed on it. Just words to think about when it comes to SD cards. Thats why so many are uncompatible or just don't work in certain phones.
[HD2 General] aptness leadership:
something about this post is slop funny to me! ROFL!
[HD2 General] ilordvader:
I need a 16GB microSD Class 10

which site sells for lowest price in USA

Thanks
[HD2 General] thesweeney:
I know its already been stated here that a class 6 is no faster than a class 10 on a HD2 BUT....

Does that just mean that there is no 'perceivable' difference? or does it mean that the HD2 itself is the bottleneck using a class 10 card?

Perhaps the bottleneck is the HD2 even with a class 6 card?

Has anyone compared a class 4 to a class 6 or 10 on the HD2?

DOES ANYONE KNOW THE MAXIMUM THROUGHPUT OF THE HD's MicroSD READER+CHIPSET?CPU ETC?

If anyone knows these specs then surely it will be obvious at which class the phone becomes slower than the card.

The main reason I want to know is that I'm currently struggling to pick between a 8GB Class 10 (£23.50), a 16GB Class 6 (£35) and a 16GB class 10 (£60-£65).

At first I wanted the 8gb for the sheer speed at low price...

Then decided that there wouldnt be much difference in speed between class 6 and 10 and decided that a 16gb class 6 would be perfect.

Then before ordering I decided I needed that 'unnoticeable' extra speed AND the extra capacity WHATEVER THE COST (Same as 'jase').

But now after reading this thread I'm thinking that there is DEFINITELY no point buying a class 10 card IF HD2 architecture can not make use of any speed greater than a class 6 or even class 4 card.

Has anyone got any technical data on this??

jasecloud4, any chance you could bench the class 6 and class 10 cards with identical data on them????
[HD2 General] mfrey0118:
:D

OK I definitely noticed a difference when I bought a TOPRAM (verified not chinese, made in Taiwan according to the box) 16GB Class 6 MicroSDHC card (about $53 on eBay w/ free shipping) with Ferrari GT Revolution game (cool game, IMO, not sure why so many cooks include it in the "bloatware" category). Lots of stuttering before now very smooth and fluid.

Question: Can the HD2's hardware fully utilize a class 10 or would it be pointless because of the phone's read/write speed limits?

Another question: How come when I formatted (i used the phone to format it, is that the best way or should I use sd formatter?) the new sd card and copied all my data from the old one, WMDC picture importer read that all my 800+ photos on the phone are brand new and wanted to import all of them? Most of them are already copied and sync'd up to my PC...
[Desire General] shawon007:
I have Pays HTC Rom installed at the moment, but would like to install the Stock rom. Does anyone know how to do this? I have downloaded the 1.21.405.2 update but is in exe format...and cannot flash it as the wizard gives me an error..

Does anyone have a link to the latest official rom in zip format so I can flash via recovery?

Thanks.
[Desire General] lambrospower:
i think this is the way it should be....run it directly and see if it does the trick.
[Desire General] EddyOS:
Just stick a Goldcard in and run the EXE again and it'll be fine, otherwise get the ROM it came with out the box
[myTouch 3G Slide General] Paticakeman:
I can send out texts but then I can't receive them untill I power off/on the phone. Any suggestions.

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[myTouch 3G Slide General] Thongvilay:
same here...
[myTouch 3G Slide General] sk8rbebop:
Did you guys root? Or are they brand new devices?
[myTouch 3G Slide General] Paticakeman:
Brand new.

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[myTouch 3G Slide General] Paticakeman:
No ideas??

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[myTouch 3G Slide General] migueltherocker:
I'd say just take it back to the store and get a replacement, and if you make a big enough deal they'll probably throw in a case or screen protector.
[General Topics] Autobahnkurier:
Hi guys,

tomarrow is the FIFA WM game from Germany :-)

I don´t have a tv in my office so i want to look at my HTC Touch HD...

This link here...

http: // metafilegenerator.de/dyn/metagen.asx?stream=zdf_de02_vh_asx

or this link

http: // wstreaming.zdf.de/encoder/livestream4_vh.asx

But I can´t open it!!!! AHHHHHHH

Can you please tell me a Programm witch can stream a asx file :-)

Thanks a lot!

By Marc
[General Topics] orb3000:
I have watched several matches on this site.

Hope it helps
[General Topics] Shum97:
Thanks, will be testing it tomorrow:)
[General Topics] Autobahnkurier:
Iam sorry but the Stream does not work very in my Mobilefone Browser, maybe because of the Flash :-(...

Does any body have the streaming link? So that i can use it in a Streamingvideoprogramm?:(

Thanks
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SLUSHIE:
I just bought a used G1 and was trying to root it.

It had RC30 on it so I downgraded and after the process of changing the recovery image, I can now no longer log into the phone.

I've tried everything and I still can't.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SLUSHIE:
I also can't open the update.zip, it says.

E:No signature (5 files)

E:Verification failed

Installation aborted
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SLUSHIE:
HELP I

Downgraded

Got Telnet App and rooted

Installed custom recovery

Then tried to update radio, which didnt work and now I cant login!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Fif23:
Looking for the latest TMOUS HD2 Setup Connection wizard cab

Thanks !
[Touch Pro CDMA] tmpid:
So I happen to see a very popular thread here in the EVO sub-forum which reveals that many EVO 4g users don't even have Sprint evdo coverage. I was a little surprised because this Sprint EVDO roaming question has been asked for years while it seems no one has posted the workaround.

Using the Alltel PRL may not be a good idea because it will always try Alltel/Verizon towers first even when you are in an area with good Sprint coverage. If you ask Sprint, they will sure tell you this is in violation of their terms of service and it is possible to get your account in trouble. And if this exploit gets abused by the public, dang, you can be sure Sprint will close the loophole and everyone's game is over.

I'd suggest to take caution and only do the roaming when it is necessary. The straight forward workaround would be doing the ##775# stuff and load a Verizon PRL when it is in need and load back the Sprint PRL other times.

This method sounds a little awkward as you have to load a different PRL each time you switch roaming. The following is an improved method for the tech savvies.

You will need to install QPST found here.

1. On your phone dial ##3424#

2. Connect your phone to the Windows PC. Install the modem driver attached.

3. Open QPST Configuration, add the com port your phone attached to.

4. Open QPST Service Programming. It will try to find your phone. Click OK to open your phone.

5. Click "Read from Phone". It will ask for SPC/MSL code. Get the code either by calling Sprint or google search "Touch Pro MSL".

6. Go to CDMA tab. Copy everything from NAM1 to NAM2 except the AOC.

7. Download Verizon PRL from here or any newer one.

8. Go to Roam tab, click NAM2, click browse, find the PRL/RLA you just downloaded.

9. Click "Write to Phone".

10. Install the attached unhide_nam2.cab. Restart your phone.

Now on your phone, Settings, Personal, Phone, Services, You will find an option "Switch NAM". Swtich to NAM2 when you need to EVDO roam onto Verizon, and switch back to Sprint when you done. The phone does not need to restart during the switch. You can even write a mortscript to automate the switching process.
[Touch Pro CDMA] tmpid:
Now Sprint online shows data roaming usage and "additional charge". Will this long time free gift going to be charged? Nobody knows what's going to happen next. As being said before, when it get abused, it gets closed. In such a short time. Some people just don't get it.
[Touch Pro CDMA] AWildColin:
Several of my friends work for Sprint. They all say that Sprint usually throws on additional charges when you data roam over 300MB minimum. Usually, it's at 500MB.
[Touch Pro CDMA] SiL3nTKiLL:
dam this is pretty good! gonna give this a shot!
[Touch Pro CDMA] Jeffrey_L:
Work on EVO ?

Anyone know if this might work on an EVO 4G ?
[Touch Pro CDMA] syntheticexctasy:
my touch pro 2 has no option in qpst for NAM2...only NAM1

any ideas?
[Touch Pro CDMA] syntheticexctasy:
ok...so anyhow I managed to get all the NAM2 information written to the phone however whenever an internet connection is attempted from the verizon side, I get "unable to connect to #777"...
[Touch Pro CDMA] syntheticexctasy:
yup...you guessed it, figured that one out too after a bit. use a 4xxxx PRL. ;)
[Touch Pro CDMA] rome8721:
Does anyone know if theirs a similar unhidenam2 .apk for Android phones. I'm trying to get something like this for my evo
[Touch Pro CDMA] torres94063:
Hello, I cant find NAM 2

Can someone help me?
[Windows Mobile] shafizal:
hello to all i have cooked a rom with 6.5.5 build (23569) for Xperia but my rom consumes too much ram sometimes it goes 66 percent ....is it any solution for optimizing this for its consume less ram???

i have already use these tweaks but...i search something else..

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\ResProxy]

"ShareMemSize"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\BootLauncher\Services\ResProxy]

"Module"=""

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\PushInternetEngine]

"Flags"=dword:00000004

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\PushInternetEngine]

"Enable"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Manila\InternetPush]

"EnablePushInternet"=dword:00000000

thanks to all
[Windows Mobile] utak3r:
There were many discussions on this topic already.. just search the forum. You may start from this one: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=551148
[Windows Mobile] jjblaster3:
-check if there r any unnecessary apps being started on boot (windows/startup)

-use a basic homescreen

-reduce/disable filesystem cache and other caches (however this reduces the performance abit)

also are u using custom start icons? if yes make sure their resolution size is optimised for ur start menu (for example ur xperia is wvga so if ur start menu has 3 rows then the icon resolution should be 90x90 or maximum 128x128, if its 4 rows then u should consider reducing, if its 5 rows then reduce even more)

if its not optimized then u'l see gwes.exe in the processes using a lot of ram for the graphics
[Windows Mobile] ai6908:
Dont use Manila. You will save a ton of RAM if you dont!:)
[Windows Mobile] shafizal:
thanks to all .;;why i did not thought about the start menu icons ...thanks for this one...;like i use 4 row icons so off course i did not need 128*128..;my gwes took 31mb.:mad:...i will try to change the start menu icons resolution...will i change only the icons of startmenu- or whole icons....

thanks once agin to all
[Windows Mobile] miniterror:
hi guys whas readignt his and making the starticons smaller is a good idea

i also use 4 row startmenu in my rom and the file sizes are 128x128

i have a wvga device so what you guys think will be good size to remake the startmenu icons?
[Windows Mobile] jjblaster3:
better do all, even those inside folders..

well im not so sure as im no expert about icons and all, its just something i discovered with my old device (htc kaiser) which needed as much ram freed up as possible .

but for a try, go for 60x60 or 64x64(if u like the cool 2^x numbering system :P)

if its looks rily good, try going even lower to 30x30 (although i think this wont look good unless you have 5 columns in start menu)

its worth a try
[Windows Mobile] miniterror:
thanks for the tip:D

any advice for a program that can do it quick and doesnt have hours of waitingtime:p
[Windows Mobile] Farmer Ted:
The 6.5 lockscreen eats a huge chunk of ram once you activate it after a soft reset (5-6 MB in gwes.exe). Going with the old-style lockscreen saves a lot of ram.
[Windows Mobile] shafizal:
my gwes.exe took 32 MB these are the modules are run will any one please tell me is there are something useless dll..if yes how can i disable

+wce_pmem.dll+wce_rex.dl+wce_tramp.dll..

thanks to all
[Windows Mobile] Farmer Ted:
You can try compressing png files; it will help with gwes some (I used a free app called PNG Gauntlet, or something like that, and it was pretty good). It's best to test out the PNG files before cooking and flashing (just copy them into \windows and soft reset), because maybe 1/100 will cause issues; the softkeybar gets messed up when it's compressed, as does the background in scroll bars and the pivot bar in menus (basically, the same as the soft key bar).

The easy thing is just to end your experiment with manila. It sucks, as you are discovering. Also, the 6.5 lockscreen uses a boat-load of RAM (in gwes), so you can disable it (saves 5-10 MB). Finally, you can save a couple MB of RAM in gwes by getting rid of all start icon/png images. Just use the native icons from the .exe's or cpl's; reshack any apps that don't have icons with ico files. You need to delete all of the Icon values in the startinfo registry, and you can delete all of the start_png files. One day, I decided to delete all of those Icon registry keys in the start registry, just to see what the start menu would look like, and I was surprised to find I had maybe 2 MB more ram after a reset. I also liked the looks of a lot of the control panel icons. They're old style, but I like the old style looks myself.