yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] silverrebel:
No. I tried and infrared - the result is also negative.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] kanka124:
One thing I've noticed is that the "Properties" in File Explorer won't show the correct information, but always display the same file size/date/attributes, no matter what file is selected.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Spiaatie:
How can you get Properties in File Explorer?

I can't find Properties anywhere.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Spiaatie:
I will take a look on it. Maybe I can fix that.

:)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] connorhan:
thanks anyway
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] kanka124:
My bad, seems that Spb Pocket Plus adds the entry to the file menu. Anyways, is there a way to get rid of xtask? I would rather use wktask instead, as I need the running program's icons on top of the screen to quickly switch between applications.

thanks and keep up the good work!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Spiaatie:
Click on right upper corner - xTask will appear now push arrow icon -> System -> Settings and check Show Icon.

You will have running software icons at the top.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Mr Joshua:
just loaded up this piece of art. the install went flawless. followed the readme, no issues. not a big fan of xhook/xtask so i closed it. installed Opera mini beta 5 renders pages quick. but had to change the socket to HTTP to get it to open pages..

the wireless has the same issue i found in previous winmo 6.1 roms.. anytime the ipaq goes into suspend and resumes it endlessly tries to reconnect to the network it was previously connected to. the start button is white? never used winmo 6.5 so i dunno if thats the way it's supposed to be?

if i select anything other than windows default on the today screen settings, there are blue lines that appear between the selections on the home screen.

if i go to Settings -> System -> Backlight as well as "HP Asset Viewer" "Power"

there is large unselectable text where the virtual keyboard button is supposed to be.

under Settings -> System -> iPAQ Audio the bar at the bottom is white? where the virtual keyboard is supposed to be?

i'll take a closer look at more of it as i finish testing it out..

awesome job! keep it up man :D
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] FrankKF:
RE: "to quickly switch between applications"

I use DinarSoft .. works fine w WM6.5
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] g00ey:
Does Microsoft File Sharing work with this ROM (either by default or by any custom program such as Resco File Explorer)?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] abdude001:
OhhHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

U people r awsum....

Thank u Very Very Very Much!!!

GREAT WORK!!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] KVLV:
thank you, Spiaatie for your great ROM.

We know that the hx4700 cann't read SDHC card (any sd card more than 4GB), do you have any plan on fixing/upgrading it?

again thank you
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] david1954tw:
how can i setup chinese font system to wm6.5 ?

how can i setup chinese font system to wm6.5 ? thanks .
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] NeverGone\RU:
Awesome:D

Even if I don't have an hx4700:)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Spiaatie:
* WM6.5 does have white start button.

* Some of OEM apps are not compatible with WM6.5 - HP Asset Viewer, Power, etc.

Hardware does not support SDHC cards, there is no way to fix it.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] DavidinCT:
Never mind...here's another one..

My internal battery is dead, every time I turn it on, it yells at me, it is no longer needed for WM5+, is it possable to disable that notification ?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] josephwsl:
backlight for hp 4700

hi, my backlight for hp4700was gone.

i think the connector was broken i replaced the backup battery.

any idea to fix?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] FrankKF:
DavidinCT ... "Dead Internal Battery"

I've experienced the same ... upon installing WM6.5. Sent to PPCTechs.com ... they installed new (LithiumIon) internal battery.

Upon arrival back the internal showed as 100% ... then some days later 0%. Warning msg kept coming up. Battery did not respond to charging.

Sent 4705 back to PPTechs for warranty replacement (they were very responsive) ... am awaiting unit now.

NOW, what is your source to suggest that this battery is no longer needed?

Frank K-F
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] FrankKF:
My skills for getting into the electronics is between nil and zero ... thus I use PocketPCTechs in California. They have done well by me.

Frank K-F
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Janko00:
thank you, Spiaatie for your ROM.

Great job.

The ROM is working almost perfectly for me. The install in 1 go, no problems at all - according to the description.

For me it´s the first ROM Update from WM2003SE and I´m glad that it is so fast.

Seems to be a new graphic board in my HX4700.

All programms installed on CF or SD.

On startup still 24.1 M after reset.

WIFI = Ok, Bluetooth not yet tested.

Thanks for ever :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] djpiky:
hay!

i have a problem. i succesfuly load rom 6.5, and when i restart my hx4700, pda show me blue picture with ""Windows PDA". After 3 seconds pda show me white screen and noting is going on. Any idea, where is the problem?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Spiaatie:
take out SD / CF card - and hard reset it again.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] djpiky:
I was able to load WM2003 and WM 5, both from original HP site. I can not load WM 6, WM6.1 and WM6.5. I was using same method for all roms. I do with bootloader.

Here is the video WM 6.5

youtube.com/watch?v=t4YIA5uZvfI

Any idea, where is the problem?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Janko00:
repeat hard reset and then soft reset
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Janko00:
Hi,

how can I move the messaging folder under windows to sd-card?

can not find this in sktools.

is it possible to move cemail.vol and pim.vol from the main dirctory to sd-card?

this both files are in the moment about 850 Kb on my HX.

how to do this ?

any other tool then sktools?

:)

THX
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] djpiky:
i tryed evreything but nothing works. how i know that i done hard reset? becuse when i press contacts+messeging+soft reset i always come to bootloader mode.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] DavidinCT:
Windows Mobile/PocketPC 2003 (what this device came with) did not have perm storage (the major problem with pre PocketPC 5.0 PDAs), so if both your batteries died all your data was lost (just like a hard reset).

When WM 5.0 came out, the storage is perm and this problem was resolved (do some google searches about the largest problems with PPC pre 5.0).

This extra battery was used so if you pulled your main battery for a swap or something, you would not lose your data for about a 1/2 to 1 hour.

No current, or past Windows Mobile 5.0 comes with an internal battery any more. There is no longer a need for it.

I am...I have been a PocketPC user from 1.0 and have lost all my data (thank god for backups), a ton of times over the years. Once the HX4700 went to WM 5.0, I never lost data again.

Do some homework about past PocketPC devices, you'll see the biggest problem was the little internal battery.

So, can this notification be disabled ?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] FrankKF:
DavidinCT ... "Dead Internal Battery"

Thanks, DavidinCT ... seems to make sense.

So now I am now coming to your side with the disabling question.

My hx4705 is due back from PPCTechs for warranty on backup battery. I had it replaced ... got it back and charged to 100% ... then over several days it went to 0% ... would not take a charge, and displayed the error msg of your concern.

In addition to having maintained the volatile storage (pre WM5) ... does the backup battery also maintain memory state?

Frank K-F
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MannyMania:
Nice 6.5.3 screen I believe.... I hope we can try soon... :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] wmbb:
Bluetooth doesn't work

Hello, Nice job.

Finally I managed to flash my HP 4700 with your update WM6.5.

But I can't start the bluetooth option anymore !

Error message ...

The bluetooth radio failed to turn on due to insufficient driver memory available. You mustperform a normal reset before you can turn on the bluetooth radio

What can I do to fix this problem ?

I need the bleutooth for my gps reciever.

Please help.

I'm not a novice user !

Thanks in advance
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Spiaatie:
Did you install TomTom?

If so, you must rename / delete 2 files, "BTSDKCE30.dll" and "BTCOREIF.dll" in Windows folder.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] wmbb:
Yes I've installed TomTom.

Both files you mentioned are not present in the windows dir.

Maybe some additional info..

The title of the error window is BTTrayCE

Any other suggestions ?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Spiaatie:
This is the solution from my hx2000 thread:

You may not see dll files in Windows from PDA because they are hidden.

And also you may check if in Windows -> Startup folder there is BTTrayCE.lnk
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] wmbb:
Thanks for your help and quick response.

I'm not able to connect the pda to the PC now so I wil try this at home.

By the way...

BTTrayCE.lnk is in the startup dir, do I have to delete this link ?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Spiaatie:
No, You don't need to delete BTTrayCE.lnk - it must be in startup folder.

:)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] wmbb:
Somehow I got it working !

I've installed another TomTom version after I started bleutooth.

After installing everything worked.

Thanks again for your help.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Janko00:
hallo

same problem for me, tomtom works with the cable gps but not with my bluetooth gps receiver

and i can not delete or remame the files because attributes are read-only, hidden, system, and ROM

can you help me how to go on ??

THX in advance

Juhu its working ... suddenly

also my bluetooth headphone
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] The_gros:
Great Job Spiaatie

I tried to load the Rom onto my hx4700 on Windows 7 with no success. I tried everything that was on this thread and the readme file, as if the pc couldn't recognize the PPC. So I moved to windows XP and Voila! It worked right away, straightforward installation: just follow the recommended steps and you don't have to do anything else. Great job Spiaatie. Paldies!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Janko00:
Power button PROBLEM

hallo Spiaatie

when i press the bower button only the backlight is switched off and the pda is still running in the background and it is even possible to start programms. :confused:

because of that the battery is down after hours and i can not start the pda without putting in the cradle.

HOW can i fix that prob ?? :)

THX Janko
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Spiaatie:
That is something that only you have.

Haven't heard anything like that.

It's possible that some software you installed is not compatible with WM6.5 and may cause trouble.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Janko00:
THX for quick reply

try to find the prob and report later

I frist try to uninstall software...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Janko00:
here is the report:

deinstalling all progs --> same result =

when i press the bower button only the backlight is switched off and the pda is still running in the background

SOO

reflashing the PDA with the ROM... 20 Min later

first action after reflashing:

Press the button once = backlight off

pressing second time = pda off

pressing again ( sometimes twice ) = pda On

and then BACKUP :)

BUT Now :

after softrest always brightness level off backlight DOWN !!!

when set "turn off backlight if device is not used"

to 1 min = pda off restart with pwr button

to 30 sec = backlight down tap on screen backlight = ok

must be a prob of the ROM !?

now installing more programs

:)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] denis.ovod:
Is it possible to install ROM update from Windows7 x64?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Spiaatie:
try it!!

:)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] NeverGone\RU:
It's possible, but don't forget to turn off signature verification (F8 when booting, then "Disable driver signature enforcement" command) before installing the driver
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] denis.ovod:
done it. before asking. problem with driver installation. util just fails. also direct driver setup doesn't work. :(

Oh. good info, thanks alot! i'll try it now! :)

Upd:

Driver installation seems fixed. But still can't update ROM :(

Error message:

---------------------------

mtty

---------------------------

\\.\WCEUSBSH001 port can not open

---------------------------

OK

---------------------------

PS: device is in bootloader state. connected. has "USB" text in screen.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
mine did this occasionally with all roms i have tried. 2000SE,sanjays lite 6.1 and happened on the weekend with alkors 2.2 . all i have to do is turn the backlight back on. can be hard to do but if you have good light you can see the dark image and press on start, then settings, then the second tab then backlight should be the second in top line. once there last tab is brightness and top slider is the battery backlight level....
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] timebank:
I had fails to sync with bluetooth.

Any Solution for bluetooth?

BTW, Thank you for your great work~
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] marcatto:
nice job!

i still have WM 2003 second edition on my 4700.

My language is italian.

can i flash english version? does it work? can i change language later?

and can i save rom i got now to return to this version if i have problems?

thanks
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bartasxg75:
Hello. I have Pocket PC HP hx4700 and I install this WM6.5. It's very nice system. Work wery well and very fast. But I have one big problem with bluetooth ;/

I use for navigation program AutoMapa 6.5.0 and i can't connect via bluetooth with Qstarz - bluetooth GPS receiver model: BT - Q1000P. When i have wm2003 it's work very well but now with WM 6.5 i cant do nothing with bluetooth.

I'm here new and i read everything on forum i look on google and i am desperated. Now I'm in England and I need navigation for back to home (Poland).

Please, help me.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Janko00:
My hx 4700 runs with my BT GPS receiver and with my BT headphone with this WM6.5. Try to connect annother device before connecting to your BT GPS to see if BT is working !!

Janko
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bartasxg75:
i try connect with notebook and my phone sony ericson w890i but nothing. The led on my ppc working but phones, notebook can't connect with ppc. When i connect via bluetooth from phone to ppc i put code on phone, after then on ppc and thats all. i can't do nothing.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Marusaia:
maybe, try to flash again the rom. Or do another Hard Reset

It can solve your problem.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7254368&postcount=86

try this fix . you will need to sync to a pc to rename/delete the originals.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] FrankKF:
This may sound a bit elementary ... but did you register your BT GPS receiver to your 4700?

Start >Settings > Connections > Bluetooth > BT Manager > New ...

I use two mapping apps (DeLorme's 'Street Atlas NA' and 'Topo USA', and 'GPS-Tuner' for EU and NA, with Delorme Earthmate and Blue Logger ... They all work flawlessly ... GPS receiver automatically link to apps.

If your mapping worked with earlier ROM, it should work w WM6.5 ... unless you have conflicts with other apps or had an issue with burning your ROM.

Frank K-F
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rclksr:
Spiaatie great ROM. Thank you for continuing to keep our HX4700's relevent and up to date. Is anyone else having problems setting up email on this ROM though? When I tap on setup email pocket outlook opens but I can not setup email. Also I seem to be having a problem with oncourse navigator it worked it 6.1 but in this 6.5 ROM the program starts to open then closes and returns to the today screen.

OK I did another hard reset and cleared memory again. This seems to have got Outlook working the way it is suppose to. I have tried two different GPS programs (Navigon MobileNavigator and iGO 8) and neither seems to run. I get memory errors on both programs and then they close. I'll still work on this. Thanks again for your work.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bartasxg75:
i try but i can't rename/delete this two files.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
you cant do it on the 4700. must be from pc end when sync'd
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] tonytoronto:
Thank you!

Thank you so much, the old 4700 alive and well again, much improved over 6.1 and all works very well.

One question, when i click on start and loads the start page, i get all the icons but they are small and 5 wide, all the pictures and devices i've seen have 3 wide and largers icons, is there a way to change this? I've looked thru al the menus and can't find anywhere to change it.

great job.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Spiaatie:
I did decrease them to save some RAM space, as they are loaded in memory.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Janko00:
My start page looks like post 1 on the right pic.

large icons and 3 wide and are not ?? decreased ??

My OS is 5.2.21905 build 21905.5.0.93 !!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Spiaatie:
That's because you downloaded first release, I made that fix and reuploaded. :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Janko00:
Are there still other changes in that "new" release ??

which release number 21905.5.0.9X is actual ?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Spiaatie:
It's not a new release - I only fixed btdun, power button lock and start menu icons.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] DiverCat007:
.7z file?

Answered my own question.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Janko00:
Is it possible to delete some more files which are loaded in memory to have more RAM ?? ( i am not the expert in rom cooking like you are )

for example :

grass.jpg, leaf.jpg, spring.jpg, water.jpg,

and ?? ppt.exe ?? (2,5 MB)

did this not encrease 23.5MB free RAM in 64MB unit after clean installation.

see post 42 (office files).
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Spiaatie:
Those files have nothing to do with RAM, they are stored in ROM.

Icons are loaded in memory for quick access.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Janko00:
THX for quick reply :)

- didn´t know that difference.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] tmeulenm:
Startup fails

Afther update Rom, I tried every thing to get the pda to work. But can't get futher the "Windows PDA" screen.

Can't get hard reset further then "Cleaning Data, Please wait."

Afther mutiple Hard resets and soft resets result is still the same (even update Rom again).

Who can help me?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] tonytoronto:
when i updated mine, i also got stuck at the "cleaning Data, please wait", i waited about 10 minutes and decided to soft reset, and booted ok and working ever since. i did not hard reset twice, only once- i know it says twice but works fine :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] tmeulenm:
Startup fails solved

Hello,

Problem is solved.

I did the updat today again and it worked immediately.

Still don't know why, but it works.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
ok this has been out a while now. anyone got a review on living with this long term? any downsides? is there enough ram left or have anyone had problems apart from the usual BT and WiFi issues?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] tonytoronto:
been using it couple weeks, i can say best ROM so far, by far.. Not sure about BT but wi-fi works fine, ocassional doesn't connect from sleep but other that fine. Installed RAMdisk and even faster browsing now.. It's a keeper.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] FrankKF:
I have been meaning to add my experience ... this ROM is the BEST in my journey from my original 4705 purchase to WM5 to Kohzura's iterations through Alkor's ... to Spiaatie's WM6.5. Have used 6.5 since its release with renewed interest ... and have not had any issues to date. I have installed it from my W-XP machine ... and the process was without a hitch.

Spiaatie ... my contribution is coming ... thanks for a great effort and results.

My unit now has 4GB SD plus 64GB CF, and upgraded RAM (128MB) ... so I ventured to set PP to 32MB ... now have much faster and smoother operation than with earlier (smaller) PP settings. For example my GPSTuner mapping app was sluggish at WM6.1 with 8MB PP ... but now it is very responsive ... even when loading satellite mapping images at 1.0+GB per file.

I have now tested and run almost everything I have installed ... PIM, text, images, graphics, sound, video, BT, WiFi.

WiFi .. I don't do email on my 4705 ... but browse news sites, etc., when away from home base. Settled on Opera Mobile 10 .. tried several others. Also WEB radio (streaming via SPB Radio).

BT ... I have two GPS receivers (DeLorme Earthmate GPS BT20 and Delorme Earthmate BlueLogger) both registered readily. My mapping SW are DeLorme Street Atlas and TOPO USA, and GPSTuner ... when starting either, the GPS receivers link automatically or readily.

BT ... ThinkOutside Mouse and Keyboard install and work fine. NOTE, my experience has been that you install these very last ... and into DEVICE for best results.

BT ... head sets ... Motorola S805 works perfectly, readily switches between my Cell phone and 4705. Motorola HT820 not as nimble for me.

Photo viewer(s) ... PhotoViewerPRO and XNView Pocket ... improvement in loading, zooming.

Music ... GSPlayer and MortPlayer... work very well, no stuttering, great sound on earbuds or BT head sets.

Video/Movies .. CorePlayer ... works well. I download high quality rips (1.1GB for Patton for example) playback is smooth video and sound.

Graphics ... ShortCAD.Lite is a work-in-progress .. but quite an interesting 2D drawing app. Works well on 4705 ... but no comparison to solid modeling on my mobile work-station.

Hope this report is helpful to others.

FankK-F
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Spenser46:
Cannot install

I have Win 7 running on my PC.

I did everything you wrote about Vista-Drivers etc.

But install stops with message

"Status: Checking for and closing activesync processes"

Any idea what went wrong?

I have a German 4700. But I don't mind to have an English ROM on it.

Jochen
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
Thanks for the review. looks like it time to backup the data and reflash the ipaq....nice to know that 64G CF works fine...i have a 2GSD and a 4G microdrive in mine with an HP extended battery.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rclksr:
Same here. I have been running with this ROM for about two weeks and it is fast and stable. This is the best ROM I've tried so far. I have not had any issues with BT connecting to GPS reciever or my Motorola H820 headset. I agree about the WIFI occassionally not connecting, but usually on the second or third try it connects up. I had this same problem with Alkor 6.1 ROM as well. My HX4700 has 64meg I did not send it out to upgrade to the 128meg. I have not had any issues running all the same programs i ran in 6.1 ROM except my On course navigator 8 which I could not get to run and finally switched to Garmin navigator which seems to run fine. Spiaatie if you got the PayPal issues resolved I'll send you a donation for your great work. Thanks
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Spiaatie:
Did you really install Vista_Drivers.exe?

As I have no problems with ROM flashing with Windows 7.

Thanks FrankKF for this great review. :)

Do I have any issues? As for me it seems that all is ok.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rclksr:
Sorry I read earlier in the thread that there was a problem with PayPal. Funds are in. Thanks again Very good work.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Spiaatie:
Thanks for your donation. :)