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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cheque:
any chance to create / mod own theme that fits to HVGA (320x480) ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ameza001:
+1!

I loved this app on my hTC Topaz! Now I'm on ICS. I would love to use it again!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] garrettcorn:
thanks for this! :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] takertx:
+ 1

A big + 1 on that! Long before this one was up for free as it is now, I was one of the very first to purchase the license in my Win Mo days and had a heck of a lot of fun night with it! I have since moved on to the glorious android on my HD2 and let me tell you that your app was the sole reason why it took me such a long time to migrate to android! I have since tried every last would be copy cat on android, free or paid, and they all suck! most of them even fail as a simple alarm clock let alone sensing sleep cycles! As a long time user of the application would you please consider releasing this gem on android!?

All the goodness aside unlike the windows community who are stiff necks about making a purchase of an application the Android community are very well versed in that field and it will also be a heck of lot more lucrative venture than the win mo version!

Please hear us out! :cowboy:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] oblique:
Just to let you know i am on a HTC HD2 with the latest HTC ROM and this worked perfectly.

Thank you very much for this app, stopped me thinking about getting an iphone.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
Hi,

Could you please remove this link in a few hours. During the beta I want full control over the download.

Thanks for the help though :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
Q.

add other alarm sounds than those implemented. For example an mp3 file of your favorite song.

A.

SleepSense already looks into the ..\My Documents\My RingTones and ..\My Doucments\My Pictures

Q.

set the wake up sounds to start playing a few minutes before alarm time if you are still in deep sleep.

A.

If you set up a soundlevel of 80% it will increase to that level.

Q.

set the display to light up in bright white before alarm time.

A.

It starts 2 min. before the alarm goes off, but doesn't put the video on. I'm still not sure how to implement this because your phone is faced down and I don't want any button/screen button pushed.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
Your zip-file is created in the ..\My Documents\SleepSense\LogFiles folder. Maybe someone knows where the default email account location is stored?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] GSDLt:
Oh, ok, than I just have to move my favorite sound there, that is fine.

I don't think that is what I meant. Earlier you explained, that the wake up sound was played, if you were awoken before your actual alarm time. I suggested, that if you are in deep sleep the wake up sound was played a few minutes before the alarm sound to get you out of deep sleep slowly, not kick you out of it abruptly.

The phone doesn't have to be face down, you already implemented a function to switch the facing of the phone to screen up. (BTW, what difference does it make? I had my phone the wrnogn way tonight and everything worked fine) So if you choose to be woken by light you would just have to have it face up.

Thanks for your fast reply.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sancho1234:
Okay, ready. But I don't understand, why is it good for, if not longer be able to download? Because it is necessary to "Live ID".
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
You can download from xda. Topic updated.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rizzypizzy:
Hi! This is a fab looking application. I have a couple of questions, though. What criteria does it use to decide what sleep cycle you are in? Is it just based on movement?

BTW, I used it last night on a HTC Touch HD. Everything works perfectly. The battery loss was 16% for 6 hours.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tommy1994:
I have tired this last night

however,I got woke up just the time I set

I look my log file, it just show that I am in deep sleep hold night

seem not working fine on me, due to I need 2 hours to fall asleep
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Spyrious:
This is a very nice and very useful app.Great work.I only have one question.Where do you keep the phone when you sleep in order for the app to work?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
It's movement. The trick is the math done with this sensor data. Which is not always right but to get it right I need your logfiles? ;) and in your email a short description what things you noticed!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
I need your logfiles? ;) and in your email a short description what things you noticed!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] akpe:
Right next to your pillow is a perfect spot, face (screen) down.

In case you don't want to accidentally push it over the bed I'd suggest putting it under the sheets or inside it's case.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] janneman22:
tried some nights, and it's incredible cool :D. Only 47% off from my battery:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Spyrious:
Thanks.It's time to try it then.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] elammertsma:
Erik, SleepSense is really becoming a great app! Thanks for all the time you've been putting into the development.

I see you have been taking note of much of the beta feedback you received a few months ago, which is also absolutely great. I will send you my log from tonight so you have some extra data.

One suggestion I have is that the graph is currently much too smooth. I woke up around 4 at night and this isn't reflected in the graph at all. I'm sure the data is there, but it is averaged too much to be visible. With that amount of smoothing, the graph currently isn't really very useful at the moment.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] AdamiX:
Really interesting app. I tried this last night, but what i know from this app? Sometimes i am sleping amd sometimes not. What to do with this? :D

And in the morning my phone (Touch PRO) was so hot. I don't know why, maybe because of charging...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
Yes, it took a lot of time and I have compared a lot of nights SleepSense readings with other applications on the iPhone and Android. I have chosen to show the Sleep pattern as the default.

If you view your chart you can choose 3 patterns >Menu>Chart>Wakeup, Sleep or Sensor. A few movements (spikes) can make the chart look like you slept 3 times but this not true. They were spikes and should not be seen as being awake. That is why there are 3 patterns to look at. In a real lab they have more sensors and sensortypes to use.

In the advanced settings there is a field SleepNoiseLevel. The current value is 35% and I need more logfiles to set the correct value for this. If you use a lower value (be careful) and redraw your chart you will see the difference.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Neville.Holland:
Good looking application.. Trying it tonight.. Just one question, and I'm not sure why I'm thinking along these line (not that it really matters either way) Is this going to be paid for software? Like I say not that it matters devs deserve a little more than praise....

Will feed back after a couple of nights
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
Yes, i will be placed on marketplace and on a paypal website. There will be 2 or 3versions on sale. Pricing level will be like on the iPhone. I've heard of making a free version with some ads in it but am still researching this.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DracoDrake:
is it not a better way to recomend it to place it in your pillow?!And use increasing vribations to wake you up?!

This because i have the problem that my phone fell of the bed.... (soz for my heavy movement in sleep mode:P:S)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SirLegolas:
That's the main thing that scares me away from testing this :/

I need to find a way to glue my phone to my bed first :O

I want to try this app because it looks and sounds so awesome!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mattiasa:
Automatic flight mode feature?

Hi.

I will try this app, looks good.

May I suggest that you add the option to put the phone into flight mode when you sleep? That way you won't drain the battery as much and at the same time, hopefully, you will get more sleep ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nudelgericht:
Hi,

i tested the App last night, but it didn´t wake me up with the wakeup function, it woke me up with the normal alarm. I think the sensor sensivity is to low (it´s already on 30). My HD2 didn´t recognize that i turned arround.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tomylee79:
It would be great to have an option to start a program for the alarm. With G-Alarm I do start the radio to wake me up :)

I will try the app tonight. I will clue it on my bed with the sport armband
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] elammertsma:
Thanks for the explanation Erik. I will look into tweaking those settings to see if I can get values that I feel generate a more accurate graph. It's great that you have made that editable! I will also try turning up the sensor sensitivity.

Currently, if I try to enter the advanced settings, I am getting an OutOfMemory error, upon which SleepSense crashes. Is there a way I can change the settings manually in a settings file or the registry? I poked around and couldn't find any ini or xml file or registry area containing settings.

I also noticed earlier that entering the advanced settings did work, but when going back to the home screen I received multiple errors. Unfortunately, I don't remember exactly what they were and I didn't have the log switched on yet when it happened (it was the first run of 0.51). I believe they were related to theme files not loading, but I can't be certain. If it happens again I'll provide you with more detail but I thought you might want to know I experienced some errors there.

I will email you my sleep log in just a moment.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kolohe4u:
So If I understand, your using this forum and its members as beta testers for a product you intend to sell?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
I've received logfiles from other HD2 devices where the wakeup worked. Send me your logfiles..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
Yes, I made too much options. So the list needs some memory but never had problems with this. And I have an omniaII which 45Mb memory.

You can edit the file \Applications Data\SleepSense\Settings.xml with xmlnotepad on your pc.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
Could you send me a screenshot about this option?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
Error on wakeup

I've tried SleepSense for the first time yesterday night and started it according to the instructions. Test procedure worked fine and before sleeping I started it. When I woke up an error message was displayed, saying something about a CF Messages CAB (sorry, too early to recall the exact error). I guess this has something to do with NET CF3.5? But that's installed and working fine with other apps which require it.

Any suggestions?

In regard to one of the earlier remarks: I can confirm that the license text on the HTC HD2 is shown without a scrollbar, and is not scrollable in any way. I'll post a screenshot tonight.

Regards,

Marco
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
Well...send me the logfiles :) What happens if you set a short alarm (15 minutes)? send me the logfiles :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
I've send you the logfiles. I'll try the short alarm tonight (my boss doesn't like it when I experiment with SleepSense during working hours ;))
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tangled:
I put off trying it until last night. I wanted some back-up alarm clocks in place.

Decided to limit myself to the simple interface. I think I need to tweak placement some, in part because my dog might be jumping on and off the bed. HAH!

But the alarm (and snoozing) seemed to work, despite my groggy state.

What I am wondering is: is there a way to have secondary alarms fire in addition to the one tied to the sleep cycle? It seems to override any alarms I've set on my phone (Rhodium, Energy GTX June 12 21905) that occur while the program is running.

I take some medications at night that give me med-head in the morning. So I get paranoid about waking on time.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nudelgericht:
I sent you the logfile from last night. I hope it will help.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tomylee79:
here you go
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] futureshock:
Hello,

i have downloaded your app... and just tried the "test" but... it didn't noticed any movement i did?!

any thing i missed out?!

thx
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
I need the logfiles :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] futureshock:
yes.. uhm...

i set the sensor to htc& compatible.. and after a restart the test looks now that it work!?

don't know what the problem was?!

is the test phase also effected from the 30% (cant remember if this was default) Battery option?!

and could it be possible that changing this option needs to restart the app to get active??

battery wos down on 20% while "testing"

thx4help

oh again a question.. any possibibilty to have a custom alarmtone already?! or did i missed out the option?!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tomylee79:
copy the file you like into the alarm folder
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] oblique:
Not sure if you know about this error but the first night i tried it, it has saved my log/graph perfectly but both nights since then i have opened the application to view my sleep in the morning but after i close the application and re-open the latest nights sleep graph/log gets deleted.

I am sorry i am being vague. The last two nights i have turned the advanced options on but having done this i am still fairly sure i didn't delete both nights data by accident.

i also set up two alarm profiles one for week days one for weekends and the weekend (9:00) alarm and week day (6:45) alarm both went off this morning. This could well be user error.

Cheers, I am really loving this app. if i can donate to help you, show me where.

Edit: I have just remembered that also the last two nights i have e-mailed the image of the graph and i didn't do that the first night.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
The only way data is deleted is by setting 2 alarmtimes within a 4 hour period. Sorry, but I need more data to find whats the problem. You ll have to wait until otthers report it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
I have received another update from the guys at beemobile4 for the error message while the alarm goes off and will update the cab shortly. This will of course only happen on devices short on memory.

I found a fix for the problem with the "no scrollbars". Don't think you need to follow it as the only time this is used is in the license form. It's nice to know its not yours or my fault :) You can read the license directly in ..\SleepSense\License_SleepSense.html

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/raffael/arc...ic-functionalities-of-webbrowser-control.aspx
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Pretenderr:
great app!

these are both great suggestions that I also would love to see in SleepSense
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] PhilipDV:
indeed very good feature!

A little mistak, i guess? When i try to send the graph via mail, it automatically selects my outlook mail, but, for me, it isn't configured... I added another, working mailaccount.

Is it possible to select the account you will be using?

BTW: VERY nice app!! :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
Yes, those are on the todo list..

I need help from a developer with that. I know have:

try
{
EmailMessage message = new EmailMessage();
Recipient messageRecipient = new Recipient(Global.t.Title, sTo);
message.To.Add(messageRecipient);
message.Subject = sSubject;
message.BodyText = sBody;
Attachment att = new Attachment(sAttachmentArray[0]);
message.Attachments.Add(att);

using (OutlookSession session = new OutlookSession())
{
EmailAccount defaultAccount = session.EmailAccounts["ActiveSync"];
MessagingApplication.DisplayComposeForm(defaultAccount, message);
}
}
catch
{
MessagingApplication.DisplayComposeForm("",
sTo,
sSubject,
sBody,
sAttachmentArray);
}
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tomylee79:
I used the app tonight. The chart shows not much movement. I didn't change anything on the settings. Do I have to increase the sensors?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bigeneral:
thanks, downloading..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
Do a Test, does it make any noice, send me the logfiles :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tomylee79:
the test worked fine. I'll send the logs.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Clem-le-long:
Thank you for your answer.

I don't know exactly what mean the M= value but during the test i hear "enough" sounds. In fact, i set the sensor sensitivity from 20 to 27. With this setting, i hear at least 1 sound when i turn around in my bed and no sound when my girlfriend moves... That is why i said "i hear enough sound" during the test.

I will test tonight with the wakeup period set to 60 minutes. Maybe i could try to go back to the default sensitivity (20) ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nudelgericht:
I made some test with the position of my HD2. When I lay it down near my head, it doesn´t react. When I lay it near my chest it is better, but not much. I still think the sensor sensivity is too low, for some mattresses especially mine.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
The current value is based on my own omnia and the first authors HTC, you can change the level in settings. If those setiings should be lower you can edit the advanced settings.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ToneDEF_au:
Awesome!

Hi ajhvdb, nice application.

I've been looking for something like this since a mate showed me the iPhone equivalent.

Used yours for the first time last night and all seems to be working well with the default settings.

Thanks heaps & keep up the good work.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Bwana1967:
Samsung SGH-I900

I have been trialling this on my Samsung I900. What i am finding is that i am unable to turn the alarm off in the morning and have to do a soft reset for which i seem to loose data on the sleep cycle.

Anyone else trialling this on a Omnia I900 (i know the phone is getting older) i found that modifying all the pictures etc of the program to 240 x 400 helps its viewablility on the phone. Unfortunately viewing the statistics on the phone are very small and hard to read.

Reading through the comments on here tonight i am going to try 60 minutes wake up time as with 30 i am only woken by the alarm.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sshadows:
Thanks for a great app.

My few thoughts for improvements:

I'm one of those that even if i'm woken at the right time/sleep, i'm still very groggy and is really fast to fall a sleep again. Is there a way to implement some sort of brain-wakeup-test like the G-Alarm have? (Small math problems or like his maze)

Just so we are not ripping his ideas (even though they are great :) ) I was thinking of a small memory game, like it displays 3x3 or 4x4 dots on the screen and then quickly lights a random path between the dots and you then have to do the same to shut it off.

If you like I could help making the small brain tests. Never developed apps for Windows Mobile, only standard .net Windows apps, but would love to get some practice.

I have some others ideas for quick brain kick-start tests, but wont spoil them all now. Have to be some that surprises people without being hard ;)

Hope you like it, as this is the only thing i'm missing from this app.

For now i'm switching between G-Alarm and SleepSense but cant deside which to use:

SleepSense wakes me at a time that makes me feel more ready to start the day, but Sleepy-Me sometimes forget to rise from the grave after I have turned the alarm off.

G-Alarm sometimes "hit" me at times where i'm VERY groggy, but then again it also takes that more effort to stop the alarm which makes that harder to fall asleep again. But IF it hits me at one of those very groggy moments even G-Alarm has meet its master, the Evil-Pillow-Monster :eek: .

By the way, do you need help to get the UI translated into Danish?

If yes, the post it HERE and I will do it as fast as possible, including I can get my app tested with some real text material.

Keep up the good work!

SleepSense and Opera is maybe the apps with longest uptime on my phone, maybe that tells you what your up against. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tomylee79:
Like I did say before, to start a program (radio for me) would be great. But then I have the problem that the radio runs and I still sleep. It woukd be great to have the posibility to start an alarm sound after a time as well.

And how about that this alarm is connected to the movements on the bed. Everytime the movements are to less, the alarm starts or after a time if nit shut off.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
Hi,

Above post are very good. I will take notice of these thought..

Version 0.53 uploaded:

- UI improved on different resolutions

- More details in logfile

- Lower memory use

To be sure, please make a backup of your ..\My Documents\SleepSense
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] byroni00:
In the past, I have just used Process.Start("mailto:someone@somewhere.com") and that will ask the user which email account they'd like to use.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
Yes, thx. I can't use that part because I need to attach a file too.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] trygve@omega.no:
Placement bug for the About box

I was about to report a bug related to the chart graphics, but this seems to have been fixed in the latest update.

Now however, the About box contents is a little bit off the mark.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
Yes, in version 0.53 the UI has changed a lot in the background and couldn't test it all. I'm on version 0.55 now with the new Zoom chart function.

The support for the UI library of http://beemobile4.net/ is very good and they gave some tips and hints which I have implemented now.

I found some glitches in the library and need to wait for there support again. Please wait a few more days.

But send me your logfiles, good, wrong, I don't care. I have improved the wakeup functionallity from looking at those files.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
Hi Erik,

Just a few remarks after playing for some days with SleepSense now:

When viewing charts and using the Previous and Next buttons on the top of the screen to cycle through the available data, it seems like when going to a previous day, SleepSense selects a different type of Graph. I.e. when I'm looking at today's data in Sleep View, when hitting Previous it shows me yesterday's data in Sensor view. When hitting Previous again, it's shows me the data from the day before yesterday but in WakeUp view. Is it a bug (or a feature :o)?

Furthermore, about the charts: I understand what I'm looking at when looking at the Sensor graph, but can you explain me the WakeUp and Sleep charts some more? What am I looking at?

Last, but not least, a feature request: It would be nice if SleepSense remembered the Detailed and Color view ticked when shutting SleepSense down and opening it the next time.

Keep up the good work!

Marco