yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Desire General] tuatha:
Well like I mentioned earlier, Ive repeatedly said I don't believe the 23rd rumours, but they do seem to be gathering pace.

Regardless, i don't have any reason to say this guy is lying so I'm happy enough to give him the benefit of the doubt.

And yes, obviously I would like to believe it!
[Desire General] XDA mark:
Yes. I always get a reply very fast...

As a matter of fact, I sent HTC a mail a few days ago about 'if they are going to add the fade in and out animation from the Nexus One' to the Desire. And started refreshing my email 20 minutes after, because I was expecting a reply. And indeed, I got one.

So its very possible to get a reply in almost 2 hours.
[Desire General] foxmeister:
My mums hairdresser was in the Doctors surgery today and she was sitting next to a women who had been in the local butchers, and she'd overheard the greengrocer telling the butcher that he'd seen a documentary on Watch where Winston Churchill recounted a tale of a story he'd heard about a time-travelling clam who'd spilled under interrogation that the Desire Froyo update would be released on the 2nd July 2010.

If you compare this to the original posting, you'll notice that one story is a load of bollocks, and the other is a heart-warming story about a time-travelling clam! :)

Regards,

Dave
[Desire General] Aitese:
Well my philosophy is to pour water on these fires as they start...then on the 24th if everyone is right, I look like a twit but will be too happy playing with FroYo to even notice. I say let it be a pleasant surprise, not everyone on XDA having a collective moan because the rumours didn't pan out like in the Hero using community.
[Desire General] tuatha:
But which is which! You can't just leave us hanging like this.
[Desire General] -A-P-M-:
What do they have to analyze ? I recieved same email a few weeks ago. Froyo is clearly advantage over 2.1 so I have enough of this bs about analyzing the impact this would have. Im not Apple fan at all, but on this area Google needs to learn from them - iOS4 was launched last week, 3GS users already can update it on iOS4. Froyo was announced last month, even N1 users still don't have it.

It is possible, I recieved answer from them in half hour.
[Desire General] XDA mark:
Its a standard official reply. Its weird I know..
[Desire General] Nekromantik:
im gonna stop responding to this thread lol

its gone way out of hand and its getting silly.

Lets start no more threads until there is a offical announcment made by HTC.
[Desire General] tommo123:
i know, it's what i replied back to them. basically, i said the speed up would be classed (to me) as a 'nice to have' but that apps2sd is a 'must have' due to running out of space all the damn time and having to constantly install/remove stuff to try new things out. grrr.
[Desire General] tommo123:
i had a 'we've received your message' mail @ 14:00 today according to gmail, and the reply @ 14:13. last time around it was within an hour or so as well i think.

of course, i replied to the reply and haven't heard back yet. :o
[Desire General] The Lurking Droid:
as for myself, I'm quite happy with version I have of now (2.1-update1)

so if 2.2 comes at that date, nice, gonna update.

But if 2.2 fails to arrive then, I just gonna shrug and won't be hugely disappointed.
[Desire General] ljesh:
Strange, HTC always takes days to reply to me...
[Desire General] zayatsv:
why do we need HTC Sense?
[Desire General] samac92:
Just out of interest, what did they say about the fade out thing?

I'm using stock froyo, and the whole UI seems so much more fluid because the window transitions haven't been removed by HTC.
[Desire General] gogol:
Yeah right, and Japan will win the world cup ! :D
[Desire General] XDA mark:
Some standard reply.

Dear Mark,

Thank you for contacting us.

In regards to faid in/out when access an application, I can help you with that.

At the momment HTC doesnt have any information when this will be add in the HTc Desire. We will send this inquiry to the developers so they can study the possibility to add in the OS.

I trust that this resolves your query, please do not hesitate to contact us again if required.

Thank you for contacting HTC.

I was really shocked at the bad English :P
[Desire General] Azurael:
I prefer it without the faffy animations tbh. The level of animation in the HTC roms is more than enough for the sloooow GPU in the QSD8x50 driving an 800x480 screen.

Still, I suppose if they're there you can turn them off anyway.
[Desire General] jonnobright:
Wow..sorry was watching the England game or I would have replied sooner.

Edit: images have been removed temporarily
[Desire General] XDA mark:
0-0, not so good :P
[Desire General] Dany0:
Yay! Will it be available in Czech Republic, unbranded vodafone, with root in the same time as you get it? Please answer ;)
[Desire General] jonnobright:
Oh I've learnt my lesson..never gonna post what I think is good news again. Screenshots are above. but as you say, I must have doctored them.

I know, why don't you log into the HTC contactus site as the case number and my email are there in the shots..knock yaselves out.

No really. knock yaselves out :)
[Desire General] tommo123:
cool, thanks to you showing your email address and showing the ref, doubters can log in for themselves to check (like i just did).

sorry for being a doubter :o
[Desire General] jonnobright:
Well my email address is linked to this account on XDA and I needed someone to check over my support ticket..so..what's the harm.
[Desire General] tommo123:
personally, i'd now take the images out, or at least blurr the email address. i'm not gonna spam ya, but those pics are going to go all over every android board damn fast (already made it to another i use) and you never know what kind carp you'll get soon.
[Desire General] tuatha:
Haha, good work. I never doubted you for a second :)

people are very suspicious around here!
[Desire General] alio993:
wow! we now have some proper evidence straight from HTC....i just hope the announcement won't be that the update is coming in 5 months time!
[Desire General] tarmacsurfer:
Not a dig at you at all but the screen shot mentions nothing even vaguely akin to the first post in the thread though, it simply says the "official announcement within two weeks", not "there will be an OTA update".
[Desire General] jonnobright:
yeah, I'll do that now. Just never been accused of making stuff up before.

Images will be back up in a sec with my email addy blurred.
[Desire General] tommo123:
yeah, i was one of em - sorry. hopeful but doubtful.

guess we're a little passionate about our phones lol

thanks for sharing though :)
[Desire General] ljesh:
The OP in this thread is completely different from the screenshots.
[Desire General] tuatha:
what are you on about?
[Desire General] ljesh:
Screenshot says: announcement in 2 weeks.

OP says: OTA in 2 weeks.

I say: another BS thread.
[Desire General] jonnobright:
Oh, so sorry..here you go
[Desire General] tuatha:
I think he just accidentally took a screen of the same mail twice. He's circled the 9am mail in the first pic, but it's actually displaying the 15:31 mail...

edit: yeah, there you have it. ^

jeez it takes an awful lot to get people to believe you in here.
[Desire General] jonnobright:
really...I don't know what's wrong with you guys
[Desire General] psycop:
This looks exciting, i hope its true!

But i will let you have the benefit of the doubt ;)

Lets hope i get alittle late birthday gift :p
[Desire General] jonnobright:
I wonder why? The support centres I assume are localised. Maybe yours is crap?
[Desire General] HDW:
fingers crossed :)
[Desire General] ljesh:
I think you will do the same if you search the web/forum for "when froyo will be released" and see the results :/

Thanks for the last screenshot.
[Desire General] Dany0:
So will it be available in Czech Republic, unbranded vodafone, with root in the same time as you guys get it? Please answer ;)
[Desire General] psycop:
We know what you know - But if its unbranded i would guess it would be available for most countries at the same time
[Desire General] tuatha:
Fair enough, but some of the replies in this thread were awfully rude. It's only a software update, after all.

Anyway, good to know that it's on the way. And promptly too. Well done HTC. edit: and Jon.
[Desire General] XDA mark:
All the people that called you a liar should really feel bad now.

Btw, check out this :) Yes, that's me who send in the tip.
[Desire General] tarmacsurfer:
Thank you, as I said it wasn't an attempt to insult but a genuine confusion at the disparity of content.
[Desire General] foxmeister:
For what it's worth, I don't think you doctored them, and an HTC CS rep did tell you what you were told.

I think it's the CS rep that is full of it, not you, because we've been through exactly the same situation before with the Hero 2.1 update.

I'd love to believe it though, and I do believe the Froyo update will be sooner rather than later. My money is on mid late august!

Regards,

Dave
[Desire General] Dany0:
cool! Just you know worrying, cause it didn't show me the latest (1.21 was it?) FOTA update. :o
[Desire General] Nekromantik:
I never doubted that the rep told u that.

Im doubting it will be out in 2 weeks.

The rep first said OTA update in 2 weeks and after your 2nd email he said announcment. They could announce on Monday that it will be released October 2010 for we all know.
[Desire General] psycop:
This is probably because this update has been pulled back from HTC as i have read several places - For what reason i dont know.

But it woulndt really matter if a froyo update is just around the corner.
[Desire General] RaptorRVL:
What a brilliant thread this is! The OP tries to post something positive and read the replies!

I didn't know whether to 'laugh or cry', holy **** :D

Anyway, only time will tell. I don't mind an update as do most of us here. And yes, unfortunately it's not the first time some dude from HTC said something which ended up being bs in the end.

But comon... no need to be so harsh at the OP. He thought this was his lucky day, and now look what he got. It's a damn shame to see what these forums are becoming sometimes...
[Desire General] IIIIkoolaidIIII:
Just noticed a few Google apps have been update with the option to move to SD card for 2.2, sign of an official Froyo release me thinks.

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[Desire General] Aitese:
OP, my apologies. Hope your right. It's easy to be cynical about these things.
[Desire General] kmetek:
So 2.2 in 2 weeks? :P

So i can finally move apps to SD.

iiiiikoolaidIIII which apps?
[Desire General] hyaenidae:
Do I get the ota even if i'm on a prepaid carrier with my unlocked desire?

I really like to know that.

Cheers
[Desire General] IIIIkoolaidIIII:
So far I've seen Google Sky Maps, market is too slow for me to keep looking around atm.

Provided it's an OTA direct from HTC, if you had a carrier locked phone, you would have to wait for the carrier to release it.
[Desire General] Laban:
Maybe it's just me... But the screenshot said "Official announcement in two weeks". The official announcement could be "Froyo will come end of september", or am I missunderstanding this?

Announcement date and release date doesn't have to be the same? :confused:
[Desire General] str355:
my thoughts exactly ;)
[Desire General] mikey242:
First thing I thought too, thought more people would have picked up on that..
[Desire General] ljesh:
First he says "will be released" and then "will be announced".

Still, lets see what happens. 23rd is in 4 days, and 2 weeks are in... 2 weeks :)
[Desire General] oursoul:
I still think its great that an official announcement will be in the next two weeks.. unless of course that announcement says "we will not be releasing 2.2 Froyo on the HTC Desire cos we think that all the fanboys on XDA are a bunch of gossiping turds"

etc
[Desire General] hensk:
very very good new,

10ks for shering it;)
[Desire General] jannen:
I always thought (before bought Desire) you would keep getting updates to Android, similar as with Ubuntu or other Linux. Now I feel Im lucky if I just get Froyo...

Awww...
[Desire General] speedking34:
You poor thing
[Desire General] ibila:
if this release eastimate is true....than lets hope it has HD-recording.

I personaly wouldnt mind waiting a few weeks more to have that in the new update...still even without froyo.....The desire is a totally awsome Phone!!!!! :D
[Desire General] Flaggie:
Just on a personal note: I rang HTC customer support last tuesday (because my phone broke :( ) and while i was on the phone with the guy I asked him about froyo and he told me that the rumours there were releasing it at the end of june, beginning july. (also went back to the store that sold me the phone and they had heard the same thing). But of course i have no proof of this conversation, so if you believe me fine if not also fine (no need for another bashing in this topic)
[Desire General] al89nut:
Some of this is feedback, rumour being repeated as fact and then being quoted.

Wait and see, but I would not bet on it.
[Desire General] dahmmy:
guys

Why the fuss

When it comes it comes...

Desire will have it... I've ordered a code from t mobile , si I won't have to wait for tmob
[Desire General] al89nut:
Jonathan,

Not necessarily doubting, but did your original email from HTC contain the four spelling errors above?

EDIT

You got two messages, one as an email one not? I am confused why there are two texts from HTC to you floating around on this thread
[Desire General] tuatha:
Every email I've ever gotten from HTC has been littered with spelling errors and bad grammar...

HTC' system is not a standard email back and forth. Both your emails and HTC's emails are logged on their internal tracker. You can log in to their system in order to view the conversation and reply to the rep.

You also receive an email containing the text of their reply and a link to log in and reply to the rep's comments.

One screenshot was of the email notification, the other was a screenshot of the HTC tracker.

If you had ever contacted HTC you would know all of this.

Can people stop with the wild speculation now? Just trust that there are people on this thread who know what they're talking about. If there was such an obvious hole in his story, it would have been pointed out already.
[Desire General] Phil750123:
Well said ! Way to much negotive thoughts going on here. Lets just believe people, and in the next couple of weeks hopefully wel be all sorted :)
[Desire General] IIIIkoolaidIIII:
Off topic! @Phil750123 you still have an N95, wish I still had mine, it was one of the best phones I've ever owned.

Agree too, to much negativity here. Rumour and speculation is what makes living with new tech fun. These are some good sources of information.

Also the fact that Google are starting to update their own apps for 2.2 support has to give some credence to an imminent release of froyo.
[Desire General] Joshhudsy:
I had a very similar email from htc

Things are looking good!

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sent via the XDA Tapatalk app using my HTC Desire :)
[Desire General] JohnSteveDoe:
..

The first rumor was based on a HTC tech rep saying (paraphrasing) "You didn't hear it from me, but there'll be an update [that adds App2SD] on the 23rd of June".

I hardly call that (semi-)official confirmation
[Desire General] cgrec92:
one can dream ... :rolleyes:
[Desire General] al89nut:
But why do the tracker and the email say different things is all I'm asking then?
[Desire General] tuatha:
where do they say different things?

Are you talking about the release vs announcement thing? He accidentally posted the same email screenshot twice. If you look at the screens, he's circled the wrong mail in red.

It doesn't matter though, because if you had read just a few posts on you'd have seen that a couple of people logged in to the HTC tracker using his email and ticket number and verified the conversation.
[Desire General] al89nut:
I mean that the text in the tracker and the text in the email are different. Shouldn't they be the same?
[Desire General] shane20:
Im just wondering how many apps on averge do you guys have on the internal memory (those moaning about extra space for apps)?
[Desire General] Aitese:
A bit late aren't you?
[Desire General] Joshhudsy:
34 apps

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sent via the XDA Tapatalk app using my HTC Desire :)
[Desire General] tuatha:
read the thread.
[Desire General] IIIIkoolaidIIII:
45 65.4MB free internally
[Desire General] jimlad:
Lol!

I'm in no rush, this phone is ace, be happy with what you have. :-D

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[Desire General] speedking34:
He did say internal memory, sounds like you have a2sd ..
[Desire General] abc27:
People here can get fiercely unfriendly all of a sudden =/

Seriously, I hate liars as much as anyone but why do you have to be so sceptical and cynical of everything.

My guess is that "something" will be occuring on the 23rd of June. Whether it's an announcement on the release of FroYo or the actual FroYo release we can't be sure but i'm optimistic that something will happen on that date.
[Desire General] buenso80:
Who needs HTC´s own froyo ?

When we have Defrost:p
[Desire General] abc27:
Stock Android is seriously ugly...
[Desire General] speedking34:
Recent news that the HTC Incredible will soon be getting Wireless N support leads me to believe that the rumours about a froyo release in the next few weeks is more than likely to be true (since 2.1 does not support wireless N, it is a safe bet that HTC will enable it ontheir phone by upgrading to froyo)
[Desire General] tsimpoyris:
Yup

Totally true. Sense owns!
[Desire General] waebi:
I'd be happier if they were actually able to make the Desire available around here.
[Desire General] ljesh:
I hope this is the case... Among the others things at why I expect Froyo, is improvement on the wifi reception... right now it kinda sucks, the reception is very poor.
[Desire General] Vlad_M:
Has N1 even received the official OTA update yet?
[Desire General] ugmeme123:
2 days to go.. *crossfingers*
[Desire General] doquentin:
Hehe yeah! :D

Don´t think, that HTC will release anything in June, when nothing is officially announced.
[Desire General] albert_htc:
Hi

I'm in the UK on O2, but I'm moving to New Zealand on the 4th July :D

Obviously I won't be on O2 then.

How will I be able to upgrade to 2.2 ??

( ideally with out rooting it !! )

Thanks :)
[Desire General] Balos:
nope they wont so dont bring your hopes up. That way you wont get dissapointed.
[Desire General] tuatha:
According to several reports last week, the N1 is launching in S. Korea today with FroYo on board...
[Desire General] XDA mark:
I have to agree on this. It would be pretty amazing if they announce AND give us froyo on the 23rd. But, I think its going to be announced soon and released within a week or two, based on the many different rumors of the Desire and also similar devices like the Incredible (US version).
[Desire General] XDA mark:
That has been pushed back if I remember correct. Saw it on Engadget/Androidcentral or something. It's now mid July.
[Desire General] tuatha:
dunno, this report is from yesterday:

http://asia.cnet.com/blogs/digihunter/post.htm?id=63019411&scid=rvhm_ms
[Desire General] tuatha:
And this one says it's been available for online purchase since Thursday:

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Nexus-One-Arrives-in-Korea-with-Froyo-144879.shtml
[Desire General] Mayavin:
I've also asked HTC Support when Froyo's gonna be out for the Desire, and this is what I've got:

Dear Mr. xxxxxxx, Thank you for contacting HTC, Kindly note that we are working closely with Google and our other partners to ensure we have the earliest access to everything we need to provide a complete and solid Sense experience on FROYO. We expect to release all updates in the second half of this year but can't be more specific yet. If you have any other inquiries please do not hesitate to contact us again, Best Regards, HTC Team

To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.
[Desire General] Desire_this!:
I logged a ticket with the UK support because my Bluetooth has never worked since I received the phone. Anyway I decided to ask about Froyo as well and this is the reply I received...

"In regards to the Froyo update, we are considering a Froyo upgrade for some models of our phones, but we are still analyzing the impact this will have on the user experience. We will announce a full list of phones and dates once we are closer to launching the upgrades.

Best regards,

xxxxxxxx

HTC"
[Desire General] tuatha:
@ the two previous posters - those are the stock responses that they give everybody. They've been copying and pasting that since since May.
[Desire General] freaksey:
well I'm still hoping to get a update on 23rd..

If not I'm going to use one of the costume ROMs. Only reason why I am waiting for Sense is Friendstream and the Clockwidget anyway...
[Desire General] daniozzo83:
i opened a ticket at htc support for asking for 2.2(froyo) for desire and for htc sync support for mac os x(my real question this:D )

here is the answer:

Dear Mr. XXXXXX, Thank you for contacting us Kindly be informed that we are working closely with Google and our other partners to ensure we have the earliest access to everything we need to provide a complete and solid Sense experience on FROYO. We expect to release all updates in the second half of this year but can't be more specific yet. Kindly be informed that the upgrade will be over the air and you will not need a computer to install it, however, the HTC sync does not support synchronization with a MAC. Please note that you can contact us via support line.

as you can see they told me froyo would be available only second half of the year.

i'll hope this isn't true :)
[Desire General] kevinsmbuk:
Update:

Spoke to a guy at HTC tech support, he was saying that 2.2 is currently being run out on N1, once they cover this phone they will then start other phones including the desire, he expects this to be within the next 1 month, but at the moment their hands are tied as they are waiting on google for the update also.
[Desire General] tuatha:
@ danniozzo83 - That's also just a copy and paste job.

They've got three or four stock responses that they copy to 99% of emails.
[Desire General] tuatha:
ok, that's interesting...
[Desire General] daniozzo83:
i hope in a copy and paste.... that would means we can hope in an earlier froyo release.
[Desire General] Splather:
Just had a mail from HTC

They said that at the end of the month they would be announcing the return of my blue football from when I was 8. I thought it was gone forever! :)
[Desire General] Sillysod:
I probably had the least helpful reply...!!

Dear Sam ******,

Dear Sam Thank you for contacting us. In regards to updates I can help you with that. There has been no announcement about updates for the desire, so i am unable to comment on this. I trust that this resolves your query, please do not hesitate to contact us again if required. Thank you for contacting HTC. Best regards, Terry * HTC

To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number 10GBCW26EN*******.

Sincerely,

Terry

HTC

Cheers Terry, for 'I can help you with that... I trust this helps you with your query'
[Galaxy S I9000 General] rshemeld:
I have seen to different stories one saying AT&T and one saying T-mobile...Does anyone know what carrier its going to be on in the US?