yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] zorglub!:
Oooops...

Answering to myself !!!

Had not seen that you had to control "Backlight "too...

Solved...and excuses
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] alstar20001:
Hi. Great work Spiaatie!

One question: Is the CE OS 5.2.21905 (Build 21905.5.0.93) the last version (WM6.5.3)? If not, please point me to the right page for download.

Thank you.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] FrankKF:
4GB 150X QMEMORY SD CARD NON-SDHC .. on the hx4705

What you say is possible ... yet it makes no sense based on my experience. Are you sure that your card is NOT SDHC?. The cards cited in my previous post are "SD" and not "SDHC" ... and that is why they are compatible with the hx4705.

Beyond 2GB other SD cards jumped on the SDHC standard .. which is not possible on the hx4705.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] zorglub!:
@alstar2001

i've just Dl'd the latest Spiaatie's Rom...here is what I get CE OS 2.3138 (Build 23138.5.3.9)

Hope it helps
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spud42:
do you have 64 or 128 meg ram? and how does it work for you?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rclksr:
Yes they are SD not SDHC. They say Qmemory 4GB SD on them. The ones I recieved are the same pictured in the links. They just dont work in my HX4700. They work fine in my other devices, as I stated, so I can use them elsewhere, I just wanted to put my GPS software on an SD card instead of my CF card. I'll probably keep looking because I have heard other people say they've used the 4GB SD cards in their HX4700. Thanks
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] zorglub!:
@spud42

from memory panel :

Storage :Total 82.59 MB (used 35.09)

program :Total 56.31 MB ( used 37.98 )

Also a 1GB SD

everything OK so far ( GPS stuff..)

only a minor problem, time settings get screwed up almost systematically...but date stays OK...don't know why ( may be something running corrupts the whole thing )
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Downlord95:
wow

i finally made it to testing the new os.

i am really impressed and want to thank you, spiaatie.

it looks very cool, but i hoped to get an os with full touch support and so on, and now i see this tiny icons in the start menu...:( i would like it to have only 3 icons or 4 a row, but they´re so small and the text under them looks bad. could you upload a fix, please?

p.s. i noticed that you uploaded the office 2010 cab and i thank you

when do you plan to make 6.5.5?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Spiaatie:
WM6.5.5 is an old branch and last update in it was a few months ago - so no plans for it.

Start menu icon size is optimized for best RAM usage. If icons are bigger - more RAM is used. If you have iPAQ with 64MB RAM - I don't recommend to increase them.

:)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Downlord95:
would it be possible, (i know the ram issue) to integrate manila or htc sense in your roms?

and i ask the third time, would it be possible to translate your rom for a noob like me?:confused:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Spiaatie:
Manila or Sense integration is not possible.

And you can't translate ROM in german - it's to hard for you.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MannyMania:
Hi Spiaatie, For those who have the 128mb how do you change the icon size? I would guess it's a registry enrty?

Thanks.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Janko00:
One question...

After clean installation of new OS 2.3138 (Build 23138.5.3.9) ROM 6.5.3

or after reset

how much free RAM is in a 64MB unit ???

Still using OS is 5.2.21905 build 21905.5.0.93 with 24.9MB free RAM after reset.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Spiaatie:
Nop, it's not an registry entry.

There is a need to replace icon png files and start menu cpr files.

If I will have time today - I will try to make a cab file with all those files and upload it here.

:)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Spiaatie:
After reset:

Free: 26.43MB without any memory card.

Free: 23.46MB with SD card.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Spiaatie:
Updated 3rd post with cab file for big start menu icons.

:)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bs2010:
Hey Zorglub! Im so happy that you got your HX4700 running again, I know the feeling...I just want to share with you and others out there the following problem and solutions i am experiencing, So that I can spare you the problems i Have been experiencing...So if your ipaq resets here and there (its annoying right?) well I found out on my HX4700 that the battery door is very loose and that the switch fix I shared with you is this reason. I found this out by taking out the battery and connecting it directly to AC it didn't reset as often. Through my observation I determined that the internal battery it does nothing anymore (sorry) but hold a charge. because you have by passed the switch don't quote me on this. The switch used to control this so now you have to figure out a way to always have your battery connected tight to the terminal leads on the unit (tight connection). did you notice that the slightest bump will cause your unit to reset?... so heres the solution its worked 90% so far.

Get a business card and cut a size out that you will put behind your battery in the battery compartment then put your battery back into the compartment then next cut a slit that will slide on the side of the battery when you slide the battery compartment back into the unit. THere you battery should be securely connected to the unit (a tight connection) Its an easy fix right! well now your unit shouldn't reset so much now keep all important saved to memory card and just in for your info My dates and times are never lost anymore. If your not experiencing any of this AMEN others can view this fix
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] muff1:
v1_T seems to have few annoying glitches.

100% repeatable bug - in case of task switching with xTask keyboard icon in centre below will remain on screen in full screen programs like Opera Mini and hpWireless application. Opera Mini is the main reason why I still use this device.

Then my friend played around with that interface using today screen start button drag functionality (screen rotate). Don't know what he did but it ended with soft reset. After reset while switching between programs often section (lower third) home screen did not refresh. Sorry I don't have screenshots.

Anyways I reverted back to rock stable v1_C. I have 64MB version. C ver runs better on my device.

Still thanks for effort, Spiaatie.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] zorglub!:
@bs2010

Hopefully, I never experienced the problem you mentionned...simply because i have always firmly secures the battery. I had already replaced the little piece of plastic who secured the locking by a solid littel copper bar ( in fact a piece of electric wire...it has been a pain in the neck because it is all micro-surgery...)

As of today, the only problem I have...and i don't know and understand why...my time settings are always corrupted..I mean, I set the date and time to the actual value but it will switch to another time which has nothing to do with the actual correct value..

I am with Spiaatie 2SPv1T (latest ROM)...

of course, any input welcome

Thks for yr mail
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Paolojyp:
Hi Spiaatie,

I'm testing your v1_T ROM, very good job, I think that the community is grateful to you.

As I have only 64 MB RAM, sometimes IGO8.3 runs out of memory, so I was wondering how to save RAM. I've seen that with sktools it is possible to reduce the filesystem cache, of course at expense of performance. Now two questions:

- If I install ramdisk that would reduce available RAM; is it advisable the same on 64M device?

- Could be worth a try to reduce the pagepool size to 4 MB to have 2 MB ram more?

Thanks again for your efforts
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rclksr:
Paolojyp, You have IGO8.3 running on WM6.5? I see you are having problems with the new touch ROM, was IGO8.3 running on the classic ROM? I have not been able to get IGO8.3 to run on Spiaatie original ROM at all. The program starts up gets past the Big 8 screen then closes back to my today screen. Most times it also changes my time on my device. I though that the IGO8.3 just would not run on this ROM because I only had 64MB like yourself. I also thought maybe it was because this was WM6.5. I think that the IGO8.3 software is the best navigation software and hate giving that up. Although I love this ROM as well. How did you get IGO8.3 to run on your device?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] zorglub!:
back to V1_C

back to rock stable V1_C...My erratic time problem disappeared !!!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jinzette:
Hi Spiaatie,

You did great work. My hx4700 is back to life and works as it has never done before.

At this moment i've no issues.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] totololo:
Hi Spiaatie, you are AMAZING !!!

Many many thanks for this new ROM.

I use it (6.5.3) on my 64MB X4700 and it works really well ...

BUT ...

... it's a bit slow ...

AND SO ...

... I noticed that you use X task manager in this ROM ... and this task manager really slows down the unit. If I close it, everything becomes snappier and really more comfortable.

So ... I would like to be able to remove it ... and maybe try instead Arkswitch which seems better.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Spiaatie:
I don't agree with you.

I use xTask on all my devices iPAQ hx2000, hx4700, 200 series and hTC ELF - works good on all of them.

There is no difference in speed if xTask is running or not.

hx4700 does have filesys problem and that's why it becomes slow sometimes.

Have used Arkswitch and had a couple of problems with it - so I don't like it.

:)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] totololo:
Well, maybe i'm wrong, but i found Xtask slowing down my Toshiba TG01 as well as my HX4700 ... that's why i would like to remove it ... is it possible ?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Spiaatie:
Just delete xHook.lnk from StartUp folder.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] totololo:
Great !!!

Thank you a lot !
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Paolojyp:
@ rclksr

Hi, I can confirm that IGO 8.3 works on the 4700 (64MB) with ROM V1_C; with ROM V1_T sometimes "out of memory" occurs. Tried with external BT GPS antenna, need extensive testing though.

The IGO version is 8.3.2.80621 - Mar 10 2009

Hope this helps
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lmemperador:
i think the same. i use xtask in my other devices too, and it is great.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] zorglub!:
@FrankFF

Nope...brand new battery...

leaving V1_T back to V1_C has solved my erratic time problem

( when I mean erratic I mean I set the real time...and sometime later between 30 secs to many hours there is a glitch ( software ?) which sets another time - generally lower )

I had suspected some today screens, tested some of them...but always same stuff, time beeing corrupted...and that's the main reason to switch back to rock solid v1_C

Strictly no idea what it could be...but, am I the only one suffering this problem ?

rgds
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Michael Yoni:
You will find its the small battery backup that is flat. I had the same problem. The PDA tells you that its fully charged (all the time) but its not. You can easily open it and take out the small battery. you will need to find those on the web or some places that may stock a myriad of assorted batteries.

Good luck - its easy to take out and replace.

THe back of the PDA are 4 torx screws. The type of screw driver you need looks like a "star" (sorry its the best way for me to describe it).

See the attached file/photo for detailed instructions. -

BE CAREFUL HOW YOU TAKE OUT THE BATTERY - ITS FRAGILE AND YOU DO NOT WANT TO USE TOO MUCH FORCE.

Regards

Michael Yoni
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] zorglub!:
thks michael

i've bought a battery...I suppose it is new..but who knows...

Now, it seems to be fully charged which it was not previously.

i'll see if i loose time and date as before
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jinzette:
Hy spiaatie,

Ive installed wm 6.5.3 on my HX 4700 with 128 MB rom and 64 Mb ram.

Storage 82.59 MB in use 9.85 MB Free 72.74 MB

program 56.31 MB in use 35.69 free 20.62

Do i need to install Ram disk/ If yes How do i do that?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] springdayok:
Can't download ROM

I'm in China, I can not download your ROM from the link you posted.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rclksr:
What is the latest classice verision? I just checked my device which I loaded a couple of months ago and I have build CE OS 5.2.21905 (Build 21905.5.0.93) Is what I have the lates or what you have listed the latest?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Spiaatie:
There is only one Classic series ROM and it's 5.2.21905.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Spenser46:
BT dowsn't work

Thank you, Spiaatie,

today was the very first day with my new ROM.

So far I only faced one prob: Bluetooth doesn't work.

Whenever I click on it, nothing happended.

When I click on the BT-Button where you also see the WiFi-Button on the same screen (and can check BT-settings and and BT-Manager) you cannot click it.

Does that mean that the BT-"Chip" is defect?

(I don't remember if it worked before. I only wanted to use the old ipaq with a new ROM for a Navi-program for my biking tours because the screen is so much better in sunshine than any other PDA I know.)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Spiaatie:
Did you install TOMTOM?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Spenser46:
No.

I wanted to pair the ipaq with my GPS-Mouse.

But I cannot click on "Settings".

And "Manager" is greyed out.

When I click on the BT-icon the red cross disappears for a split of a second and then comes back.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Spiaatie:
Then check if you have BTTrayCE.lnk in Windows\Startup folder.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Spenser46:
Yes. It's there.

And now?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Spiaatie:
Then I don't know. Those are the only two options I can think of.

Did you try a hard-reset once more?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Spenser46:
Yes. I JUST did that.

and now it works fine.

so no hw-probs.

the question now is:

shall I better do a restore of all my apps (with spb backup)

or do a re-install to be on the safe side ?

(After the WM 6.5 installation and 2 hard-resets I did a restore and I found out that BT doesn't work)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Spiaatie:
Then it's quite possible that there is something wrong with backup file - some old registry keys or software messing up bluetooth.

You should better re-install software.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Spenser46:
As soon as I've re-installed spb mobile shell, BT doesn't work any more.

After uninstalling it, it works fine again.

Strange, isn't it?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] FrankKF:
RAM disk with WM6.5 on hx4705??

Spiaatie ... or somebody else

What RAMdisk file is the latest ... could you post a link? Please, anybody?

Frank KF
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Mashtetsov:
Hello Spiaatie,

Your 6.5.3 is fantastic! Historically I have 2 devices, one I used frequently and the other one has a brand new look (I installed your ROM on this one). After 1 hour of usage I understood that this ROM brought a second breathing to my device. Yesterday I made an upgrade to 128M RAM (it cost me ~83USD) and now I am in high of its usage. With new RAM I have no issues at all, xTask is ok for me too.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Dovgalyuk:
Start button on the top. Possible?

Hi,

I have a small question. Is that possible somehow to use the latest ROM and have Start button in the top-left corner of the screen?

Thanks.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] muff1:
Isn't MSN Live messenger part of Windows Mobile? I'm guessing you took it out from this ROM. Wasn't it working or you tried to save space? If so then is there separate .cab floating around which works with this ROM?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] santasemilla:
Hey! Where did you get that price for a memory upgrade? The only " known" place to do that is PPCTech... but that's $130 and it's nonsense fon an old device like the HX4700. For that money I would buy an Archos 5 IT (actually $150, refurbished, @ Newegg) with 16GB storage, Android 2.1, GPS, OpenCL, etc etc etc etc ;)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lmemperador:
or a zt 180

:)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Mashtetsov:
I did it in Moscow at PDA Centre.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Spiaatie:
It's not possible. If you want Start at upper left corner use Classic ROM series. WM6.5 and WM6.5.3 are two different Windows Mobile modifications.

Due to WM6.5.x compatibility issues with hx4700, ROM size is limited and I can't include Live Messenger. But that's why I included Marketplace. You can download it from there.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Remklep:
Sound problem

I just upgraded my 4705 to WM6.5.

The upgrade was easy and went well.

But unfortunately I have a problem with sound, I have none.

If I open the volume setting from the Home screen, it is set to 0 but on.

If I move the slider up to anything above 0 and then press OK, then go back to the volume setting, the slider is at 0 again.

I have no clue how to solve this, anyone?

Remklep
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] muff1:
So marketplace can be used. I kind of assumed that marketplace is using some fancy MS DRM and because of this ROM isn't exactly... you know.

Silly me, I even didn't try to install anything.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Dovgalyuk:
is there a memory leak?

Have anybody noticed that after active usage of the device with this ROM the amount of memory decreasing considerably.

Even though all applications are closed free memory size is not increasing.

I have made a test, I installed no additional applications. After soft reset the amount of free memory is around 24 Mb. Tried to open explorer couple of times, close it. Some other applications. Closed all applications. Now when I go to check amount of memory it says around 18.

I can also see that processes like filesys.exe and gwes.exe use around 7 and 6 Mb respectively.

Just one question. Is that ok?

I have Axim x51v with WM6.5. I tried to reproduce the same situation there. As soon as all applications are closed the amount of memory is mostly equal to the amount that was right after software reset.

Any ideas, comments?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] zorglub!:
@Dovgaluyk

I has been told that it is a common problem with WM 6.x...Even if you close apps, memory is not released...

There is a so-called magicButton piece of software ( grab the cab file on the net..) that does the job..

When installed, there is a little blue square with a white "X" who recovers the traditionnal "X" used for closing apps...and then, closure with MagicButton "X" is releases memory

Hope it helps
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Paolojyp:
Free RAM

Hi all,

provided that I realize that the amount of free rom after reset doesn't mean too much in real world, I played with the Pagepool changer (above in this thread) and report the results, if can be useful to somebody. Test on V1T version, which has a default of 2 MB of file system cache. Note that I realized that the difference between without or with SD card inserted depends on which SD you use: in my case a SD of 4GB caused a bigger impact, maybe it depends on the number o files on it (?). All values after hard reset and no additional apps installed:

v1T - 6MB PP

56.31 MB Total

27.22 MB (no SD)

23.42 MB (w/SD 2GB)

FS Cache: 2048 KB

v1T - 5 MB PP

57.31 MB Total

28.24 MB (no SD)

24.41 MB (w/SD 2GB)

FS Cache: 2048 KB

v1T - 4,5 MB PP

57.81 MB Total

28.75 MB (no SD)

24.97 MB (w/SD 2GB)

FS Cache: 2048 KB	sometimes hangs on 1st boot screen

v1T - 4 MB PP

58.31 MB Total

29.32 MB (no SD)

25.45 MB (w/SD 2GB)

FS Cache: 2048 KB

v1T - 4 MB PP

58.31 MB Total

29.11 MB (no SD)

26.73 MB (w/SD 2GB)

FS Cache: 512 KB

v1T - 0 MB PP

62,33 MB Total

23,82 MB (no SD)

19.96 MB (w/SD 2GB)

FS Cache: 2048 KB

At the moment I'm using the 4 MB pagepool with 512 MB cache and IGO8.3 seems to run well. I don't pretend that it is the best configuration, it is nice to make experiments with this excellent ROM (thanks, Spiaatie).
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] hx4700u53r:
dinarsoft memmaid

Hello!

I just want to make public that installing dinarsofts' memmaid (memory cleaner) may harm your device. I had it installed and my iPaq stopped charging properly. After deinstalling it charges, but it still has problems with the battery status display. It always show status unkown.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Janko00:
gwes.exe

Why is there a differnce between Rom VersionSPv1T and SPv1C

SORRY Mistake from me:

Here NEW:

Why is there a differnce between Rom VersionSPv1 Classic Version with small Icons and Version Big Icons

the amount of

gwes.exe 10,71 MB to 14,76 MB !!!!

in shell32.exe 2,69 MB to 1,69 MB

filesys.exe 1,63 MB to 1,81 MB

After RESET 27,9 MB to 25,0MB free RAM ( with SD and CF Card )

look under MemMaid -> active process

why such a big difference with gwes.exe ??:confused:

I also noticed memory decrease after active sync usage for a longer time.

ideas, comments? :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Spiaatie:
Classic version is WM6.5 - simple old style user interface.

Touch version is WM6.5.3 - new user interface - does have a lot png images (buttons) and they are loaded in gwes.exe
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Janko00:
hallo Spaatie

is this equal in WM 6.5 VersionSPv1 Classic Version with small Icons and Version Big Icons ?

See my changes in Post 370.

Sorry
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Sopalajo de Arrierez:
Thanks, Spiaatie, for this wonderful ROM.:)

I have tested it and it works great, but installing too much programs generate lots of problems with filesys.exe process :( . So I have some questions for you (or anyone who could ask them):

- Will RAM upgrading in my HX4700 solve this problem?

- Maybe some fix like this one would help? :

tttp://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2251594&postcount=800

- What should be your resumee of precautions we should take for dealing with the filesys.exe issue in your ROM? I have read some of them: installing to memory card everything (when possible), and moving any kind of secondary files (like temp files) to memory card.

Thanks a lot. :cool:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] hx4700u53r:
Ipaq won't showw battery status

Hello,

it's been two weeks now, that my iPAQ with Spaatie's last 6.5.0 ROM does not show the battery status. When plugged to the power chord, it shows its charging, but the charging bar never raises above the 0% value.

Leaving the device on the chord does somehow charge the device, but now if I power it on by soft reset, it shows the charging icon in the top right corner of the today screen.

In the system settings it shows 'unknown battery'. To add, I cannot power it up by pressing the power button. I always have to perform a soft reset, which is quite annoying.

Has anybody experienced the same problem with his device?

Greets
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] FrankKF:
IPAQ wont show battery status...

I went thru similar battery issues.

But in your case, I would

1. re-install the ROM,

2. do a battery charge cycle

3. check your main and backup battery status [Settings > System > Power] ... they should read 100%. Try running your 4705 for 10-15 minutes ... than check battery status again. If they read near 100% they should be OK ... else may need replacement.

These PDAs are now several years old, and due for new batteries. That is what I did at about the time I installed WM6.5.

Frank K-F
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] DIMITRINET:
WM7 ?

hi Spiaatie, your job is invaluable and thank you for everything.

I want to know if you will cook the last version of Windows Mobile : WM7?

is it possible?

Thanks
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Spiaatie:
There is no Windows Mobile 7 only Windows Phone 7, but it's not compatible with old devices.