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[XPERIA X10 General] agentJBM:
"ATK can actually do more harm than good.." Of course it can, If you set it up Auto-Kill too aggressively or on a timer. That doesn't mean it is malicious and should be uninstalled.

How about setting it up correctly? Uninstall unneeded bloatware. Manually set all system apps related to phone, messaging, calendar, notification, Android to Ignore. Then manually set any other system or user app that you want to continue "while screen off" to ignore, including ATK. If you aren't sure.. If it is a system app-Ignore. If it is an user app-Kill. Set security to medium, level to aggressive and it should not harm any system app.

Auto-Kill frequency: Any timed repeating Auto kill will drain your battery. Set Auto-Kill frequency to "only when screen off". That setting saves battery, saves data, doesn't hurt any apps.

Test uninstall: So, I decided to try uninstalling anyways to see if I noticed anything. My phone started running slowly and i had my first random reboot ever. Touchscreen started to lag and stick a bit. Contacts took forever to show up. No battery increase. Had to shut down and restart every morning. Gave up on third day.

Findings: Uninstall ATK only helps if you can't set ATK up right. Set up for only when screen off, and manage ignore list.
[XPERIA X10 General] LahiruRD:
Well i use all these ( i mean 3g, fw which updates every 2 hours, a live wallpaper, winamp to listen to the music, wifi, positionement, internet 3g and wifi etc ) and in the end of the day, i will bave around 25-30% of the battery. My question is while to have all these options, why dont you enjoy it ;-)
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
The wifi and GSM modem are to blame for most of the heat and battery drain on the x10.
[XPERIA X10 General] mrljlamon:
well personally i just use juicedefender with my own custom settings.

today...

i have 3g on all day (juicedefender turns it off when screen is locked)

i use musicgo to play music a good 2 hours of the day

text all day. some market browsing

animated weather....weather and clock widget

few widgets and app shortcuts (including musicgo widget)

screen brightness at 32% which is fine for me.

looked through some photos using justpictures app

adw launcher ex

i have taskmanager which i use just to end apps every so often after im done using them.

(btw my day started unplugged at 915 am)

i got home around 8 tonight from work

turned on wifi turned off 3g

turned off juicedefender (still had 72% battery after that whole day)

now it is 1142 pm and i still have 20% thats about 14 1/2 hours

after allot of texting. market browsing, and a bit of angry birds (which we know kills the battery like crazy

so juicedefender works fine for me i'd say....12 to 14 hours is really all i need out of my phone.

and right now im creeping up on 15 hours.
[XPERIA X10 General] soldiers33:
if you're not going to make any calls or hardly use the phone whats the point of even having it? Ive had no problems with my battery what so ever. I make lots of calls during the day, i text almost non stop and browse the internet sometimes and my battery can last me two to three days without recharging. I have disabled data connection, changed to gsm since I only use wifi to connect to the internet. bluetooth turned off, gps turned off and my screen brightness is set to 25% to 50% brightness and the phone has been lasting me for ages.
[XPERIA X10 General] Wolfbreak:
I use nothing like Taskkiller or JuiceDefender or something. I have 3G always on and Wifi sometimes and i use the Phone often to Browse Internet or look at Time, send a Email or make a Call and my Battery lasts for 2-3 Days withouth a Problem.
[XPERIA X10 General] cyang:
kill this and disable that... what's the point to have a smart phone then
[XPERIA X10 General] Perceval from Hyrule:
It is a known app to drain massively battery : face recognition service.

I almost doubled my battery life by deleting lots of useless apps/services from SE.

Advanced Task Killer gives very good results, you can use SetCPU to slow down the CPU, although the OnDemand setting (default SE plan) looks correct to me.

You can permanently enable GPS (it turns on when icon appears in fact, if not, it's on but standby and does not drain ANY battery), but WiFi is very hungry.

Think also the screen and GSM. Screen drains a lot, turn auto-brightness ON (or OFF and put it to minimum) and make it turn off every 30 sec/1 min maxi.

You can abuse of Airplane mode, as GSM asleep can drain lots of battery if you are in a poorly covered area (the phone keeps trying to connect the network).
[XPERIA X10 General] agentJBM:
Exactly why set ATK up to "when screen off " and screen time out to "one or two minutes" to save battery for all the things you can do when screen is on. App running in front isn't auto-klled, but you never have to worry about closing apps individually that you left running in background. My phone is smooth as butter and fast as lightning.
[XPERIA X10 General] mrljlamon:
exactly. as i said i dont disable anything

i use everything that i would normally use (mentioned in my earlier LONG post lol)

and juice defender somehow keeps my battery going.

i dont see why u would geta phone with features, if ur not gonna use the features.

but before i got juice defender i was definitely getting about 8 hours use and now imy phone just died this morning after being off the charger since 915 yesterday morning. about 22 hours.

(anyone interested can read the more detailed post higher up)
[XPERIA X10 General] djdeko83:
Name of the Application u use ?

Hi...

Bro tell me the name of application u use for battery ?
[XPERIA X10 General] a.monteiro:
this thread is rather old, it's well known by now that the use of Task Killers isn't recommended by Google. They actually make your phone lag more since many applications are set to auto-start, the act of killing apps is futile.

what drains battery most of the time are the screen and the antennas, apps that need to update frequently start services to access your network, that's why the task killer gives you the illusion of saving energy by shutting down apps.

It's more productive to:

-enable WiFi or 3G only when you need them.

-set screen brightness to lower levels (indoors or at night, 30% or 40% is enough)

I use Extended Controls widgets, they have shortcuts for nearly every function in the phone.

-SetCPU may help too (needs root)

-Watchdog is a passive task manager, much like the one in Windows, if you need to kill an app that is unstable, you can do it manually.

-if you're paranoid, Startup Auditor tells you which apps auto-start.

I use my phone rather frequently, mostly for calls, listening to music and internet. And my battery last 2 days sometimes, but if i play a game, or need to increase screen brightness it will drain energy quickly.

That's how smartphones work, unless they come up with bigger batteries, i keep my x10 plugged to the PC often, battery rarely dies on me.

very cool app, what is it?
[XPERIA X10 General] KelvinMead:
Definitely works, but everyone my screen goes off my data and network are disabled. What are the processes I need to ignore so that I can make and receive calls?

posted direct from the legend that is the x10i... the fastest processor, the slowest response...
[XPERIA X10 General] clintax:
hi, i posted this thread back in the days X10 was running 1.6, the phone did not have good task management and ATK was inevitable.

And now i can confirm with 2.1, the X10 does not need any ATK anymore for increasing the battery life.

The thing you can do however to increase your battery a little bit is installing "Automatic Task killer" and select your games and other 3th party apps and place a widget on your homescreen and tap it whenever you used one of those apps and it will kill them. This will not affect your overall performance unlike Advanced task killer does.

Hope this will help you out
[XPERIA X10 General] KelvinMead:
How can you disable atk without uninstalling it? Disable on startup and then dont launch it? I dont really want to lose my settings when I get 3 days usage

posted direct from the legend that is the x10i... the fastest processor, the slowest response...
[XPERIA X10 General] batman_112:
Try freezing with titanium backup.
[XPERIA X10 General] User Name:
My record was 8d 20h without any taskkillers or CPU settings. But that week I used the X10i just like my old phone: Just a few calls and SMS, data transfer, 3G and Wifi were switched off.
[XPERIA X10 General] yuszx:
no. 1 battery eater: wifi, followed by cell standby if you in low coverage area.

i've never use task killer, that make your phone slow and eat battery everytime you launch an apps. task killer should never exist in android phone.

i got 2 days battery with regular usage. some wifi, browsing, games, calls, messaging and fooling around with my phone.

every few weeks i made full cycle charge. thats mean i use my phone untill battery drained to 0%, charge it for about 24hrs (do not turn the power on). i switched my sim card to another phone during that time.

what missing in this thread is full cycle charge.
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
Fast Reboot Pro in combination with Ultimate Juice + Advanced Task Killer makes my x10 last with constant use 12+ hours....
[XPERIA X10 General] badhobz:
Well I don't use any auto killer or battery management apps. I just delete the apps and services that I don't use. I got jit enabled and my quadrant is aLways over 740. I'm on 3g non stop and with heavy usage through the day gps included I'm still getting this.
[XPERIA X10 General] mrljlamon:
use autostart killer for at&t bloatware, the my uploads app and face recognition app. It keeps them out of the way from taking battery. And kills them if they should start again. ... and juicedefender to turn ur 3g off when ur phone is locked. I'm going on my 10th hour with 83% left. Using xda app texting(about 60 and refreshING weather widget) no bull. Brightness on 33. Try it out? I will post my juice defender settings if needed.
[XPERIA X10 General] yvaditya:
I use ATK only to speed my ph up before a gaming session, didnt find the auto killing useful. They just start up anyway.

reducing cpu frequencies adds a few hours if we dont text much... using setcpu and memory optimizer makes me last a day max. I text around 100 sms a day.
[XPERIA X10 General] mrljlamon:
well i JUST watched my phone die like 5 min. ago after being unplugged since 11 am yesterday. 24 hours. ...using my method mentioned earlier.

note: after i got home at 1130 pm last night(12 hours) i had 48 percent battery left using my phone a good amount through the day. turned off juicedefender once i got home. so that 48% got me thru another 12 hours(till this morning). 6 of those hours i was sleep. when i fell asleep it was on 6% woke up it was on 2%. officially died after i used it for about 15 min.
[XPERIA X10 General] mrljlamon:
man my display always says at least like 44% , usually like 68 to 75 wth lol

how ?
[XPERIA X10 General] alankstiyo:
I used an auto killer but noticed that the available ram was used like crazy and left me with 30mb which is useless
[XPERIA X10 General] shadrick:
Android manages memory and closes programs when it needs more memory thats why alot of programs dont have a exit button
[XPERIA X10 General] badhobz:
Well you can see in my photo that my RAM is at 35.17 and the system runs perfectly smooth. I say don't use an autokiller... no point. My display is set to auto.
[XPERIA X10 General] o0k00l:
Use phone as phone all problems will be solved ..

Sent from my X10i
[XPERIA X10 General] futranbg:
I did as clintax said. Then my Quadrant score goes from 770 to 850 :O.
[XPERIA X10 General] kmaximax:
noted here your using 'LAUNCHER PRO' from your screen shots and not the 'STOCK' home so this is why your getting good performance!
[XPERIA X10 General] woopypants:
thanks for the tip! works great
[XPERIA X10 General] tetracortica:
not sure how or why

but this actually works, thanks OP! :)
[XPERIA X10 General] netant:
i tried your recommended setting in task killer but didn't see any imporvement, rather in that setting you cant listen music, as the screen go off advance task killer will kill you media player :D
[XPERIA X10 General] proyectomx:
My experience with tasks killers is not good. It had made my system unstable and apps may start to show errors.

After like 8 full charge/discharge cycles my battery started lasting more.

I think what drains the battery is the very poor optimization SE apps have... my opinion.

I also rooted the phone and installed custom roms (I have cm6) and that helped a lot.

Maybe to someone this will help.
[XPERIA X10 General] krispygreen:
Ok people I dont know for you but these settings suck and make the phone almost useless, why getting such a phone when you cant use wifi, 3g or gps. Do your homeworks and learn that task killers only swallow your ram after killing tasks so after a certain time, 75mb will be available even if everything is killed. Im not saying its bad, just dont use it 2 much. I was having the same battery sucking problems with 2.1 and I use flashtool to flash back the generic rom and tada the phone can last 2 days with aggressive usage such as game like zenonia 2, angry birds etc... 3g always open, wifi and bluetooth only when needed, for ram issues I rooted the rom and install adfree so apps would not connect to their services and save bandwidth. Another trick 4 noobs, no live wallpapers.
[XPERIA X10 General] siulrei:
You have reason this works this make the difference but for hard users its not the solucion i have the same configuration long time ago but i have decided change the method. Using flying. Mode wen i don't need. Any connection. Its works too ..the task killer persist in unload. The sim card but your method its a solution we need a plutonium battery sory my bad English
[XPERIA X10 General] siulrei:
Krispygreen have reason listen him good advise but after a infinite number off solutions the best is buy 3 battery for support. Lol,
[XPERIA X10 General] krispygreen:
Lol Siulrei, you're right on that. But i wanna say that i dont mean to diss the thread right now, I just wanna clarify and put an opinion bout taskillers, not every phone is da same.

I'm using one in really rare times. Sumtimes the phone gets a bit laggy after a day or two, reboot there we go. If you still wanna use a taskiller with aggressive settings, put back up n restore and other tasks that apps that you use in an ignore list.

Its only for the 2.1 generic rom, I tried it and not much difference except that the launcher can have a hard time recovering.
[XPERIA X10 General] agentJBM:
There is an free app called APNdroid that has a quick on/off data toggle widget that only allows text and calls. It has worked great for my battery life, and allows me to still use it as a phone and is faster when compared to Airplane mode.
[XPERIA X10 General] siulrei:
Vote for plutonium bateries
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
While you're at it, why don't you just put the phone in airplane mode.. that should give you better battery life :)
[XPERIA X10 General] PtN009:
i was having battery drain issue when i started using CM roms and also heating problem..so one day i was tired of such issues..

im from india so heres normal temp is about 35 Celsius..

i let my battery to 0% and than put my phone in plastic zip bag and put that bag in refrigerator.. after 3 hours i removed it from there and put it into thermos and managed to charge phone in thermos . after full charge it works like 20+ hours . full usage on 3G and GPS and music , calls, text , browsing etc. still sometime battery gets heated when i'm outside but not that excess .

also i use task manager which kills selected apps which i don't use, and allready defined by me.. and i'v removed some apps auto starting by using autostarts...

Thank you.
[XPERIA X10 General] Riddo:
Thanks for the tip.

I've tried it and I can't see that this makes a massive difference. The battery seams to be lasting longer, but I've to exclude some apps from task killer or it could kill things I'm using.

Anyway it's a good tip, so thanks again
[XPERIA X10 General] Smoked33:
I agree with all the people that have posted that smart phones shouldn't have all their smart features disabled.

I've had this phone over a year now and have tried every 'trick' under the sun to conserve battery and the best results i've had were from the BOOST thread in the development forum combined with Juice Defender.

Seriously, disabling/uninstalling apps that I never use like Timescape and using SetCPU to have a 'sleep' profile when the screen is off made a huge difference. I can easily get 2 full days of mild useage on one charge and that's with 3g and all my sync apps still going.

For all you that haven't done it yet, root your phone, spend 3$ on setcpu and follow the BOOST thread and be done with this nonsense :)
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
Actually, setCPU is free for XDA members
[XPERIA X10 General] andddy:
is it only me or evertime i look at my battery stats its always 80% display! so to save battery turn your screen brightness down? lol pointless thread.
[XPERIA X10 General] siulrei:
Lol hehehehe better. That it's. The. Shutdown boton lol nice tips guys we can to make a battery using lemons oranges etc...lol i charge. My phone. Every days ...nothing can help me ...
[XPERIA X10 General] unroot:
hmm just noticed I was on 3g so swithced back to 2G.. just want thebattery to survive atleast 1 day
[XPERIA X10 General] AX10i:
People used to complaint about battery drain on 2.1.

Sincerely, the drain is far worse in 2.3.3, at least for me...

A couple weeks ago I went back to 2.1 and I was REALLY happy with my X10's battery life. I finally got it to last a full day without charging. And in some occasions it even lasted ~1,5 days.

Unfortunately, I missed the native USB and WiFi Tethering and other features so bad that I had to come back to 2.3.3. Now I have more features, but after ~8h my X10 is dead, which makes it almost useless.

I can't browse the web, shoot a video, or even play a game without being assaulted by the fear of not having enough battery for the rest of the day. So I avoid using my phone, unless it's really necessary.

I was seriously thinking about moving on to Arc S, but I've read it has the same f***ing problem :mad:

I think I'll just anxiously wait for the Xperia S to come out along with some reviews concerning it's battery life... I hope SONY will get it right this time. Otherwise, maybe it's time for me to think about starting to love another brand other than Sony Ericsson / SONY.
[XPERIA X10 General] monteiro-ribas:
o meu telefone era a mesma merda, agora comprei isto e dura 3 a 5 dias.. fica é mais gordo e pesado

i've bought this and now my battery life is between 3 to 5 days

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-3200mah...749546897?pt=US_Batteries&hash=item23195f8991
[XPERIA X10 General] kylec:
I can confirm this. It makes the phone chummier, but after a day or two you don't even notice
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
Now everyone else can also feel my pain.

After SE denied this and made me question myself and the handset in question even deeper. the battery use was always this bad... 2.3 just made it a bit worse.
[XPERIA X10 General] AX10i:
I'd never seen that battery before. I'd seen another one though, which makes the device ridiculously thick.

I might give this one a try.

Obrigado pela dica ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] Hanzo.Hasashi:
Doesn't this make the phone thick?

Sent from beneath my cloak of magic
[XPERIA X10 General] shahkam:
Rofl followed the guide i didn't see a difference actually it make it worse but hey wanna know the bbest battery saving tip ever? Turn the phone off! Works for all devices!
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
:rolleyes:

no way. really.

I would have thought not doing that would make it save more.

Since 3G just saves so much of the life of your device in general.
[XPERIA X10 General] shahkam:
Try and see for yourself! :O
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
LOL.. sarcasm.. sorry, was a bit moody this morning.
[XPERIA X10 General] shahkam:
Don't worry i am always in a good mood no matter how much trash one can give me it doesn't affect me :D
[XPERIA X10 General] dxt3r:
well, tbh this didn't work out for me ... I think its the time to consider buying a new battery. ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] swicher:
i've already bought

Hi,

have a question. Originally there was polimer battery. Now I bought lithium and it seems to take more on this battery. What is exacly difference beetween thos batteries?

Thx
[XPERIA X10 General] mraiko:
You guys should read this.

http://droid-den.com/android-guides/android-guide-should-i-use-a-task-killer/
[XPERIA X10 General] bashir111:
i have tried it . and his info is legit... thanks for the share. :D:D
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
Note about task killers...

it only free's up memory.

Something Android isn't bad at doing by itself. :p

What i found funny is that i use system panel... always have, always will.

Some roms will literally make good apps just not work as intended.

I know for a fact the stock rom and many other roms were not doing the dance correctly when it came to memory management.

I'm sup prized that the x10 mini pro MiniCM 2.1.9 rom and kernel managed to fix this.. i'm finding less apps closing due to the lack of memory and way more stable loading of cached apps, the GPU is responsive and fast to swap data. "it's the way it should be!!!!" :)

Now.. if you ask me.. HW acceleration should have been implemented on day one.

I don't know why it only happened since ICS it seems a bit lazy from Google.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Junon:
Okay, basically I'm coming over from the windows mobile flashing world and I'm having a hard time wrapping my brain around some of the concepts I'm running into with android on the EVO here. :confused:

Let me just start off by saying that I've read a lot of threads in here, and I think there's even a better than 50% chance that I'm successfully rooted with NAND and with recovery all done. Probably multiple times. Also, I've set my wife up with a nice android 1.6 warm donut HTC Touch (vogue) and it's working great for her. That said, if someone could address my questions here, it'd go a LONG way to getting me on my way.

Thanks.

1. I appear to have successfully rooted my phone SEVERAL times, via TOAST's method and via the super sweet simpleroot deal ... but if that's the case, how come I've *never* been able to just install the android wifi tether and have it run without jumping through any other hoops? Yes, I can run unrevoked and then it asks me for SU permissions and everything is all good but I can't ever do it without unrevoked. I've even been able to install titanium backup and it'll complain that it doesn't have busybox... which I then install and then it SEEMS like it's cool and that it thinks it's rooted BUT WHY CAN"T I GET TETHER TO WORK WITHOUT DOING *EXTRA* ROOTING???

Also, rom manager will install and start but won't reboot into recovery for me or anything fancy. Which makes me really wonder what's going on.

Okay, onto the next one.

2. Okay, I can get the new recovery on there but I'm a little unclear on how to actually flash a rom from there. I'll throw a zip of a rom on the SD card and then I'll get into the recovery which I *believe* I do with the reboot and hold down volume, right? Either way, I know I've been in the black and green recovery screen and picked some menu option that seemed related to loading a rom from a zip or something but then nothing of note happened. It appeared to be installing SOMETHING but then when I start up my different rom, it appears to just be the same rom.

I'm sorry for these total newbie questions but it seemed more straightforward on windows mobile, even though this seems like this has TONS more potential. Any help someone could point me to, even in just listing out the work flow for a normal flashing of a rom would be SUPER helpful. I just don't know what to think of 'recovery' and NAND and all that as as it pertains to actually getting root and new roms onto my device.

Thanks a ton to anyone that bothers to clear this up for me.