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[Galaxy S I9000 General] vrhunski:
htc evo is much better then Samsung Galaxy S i9000. You are lucky if you are in USA so you can use 4g network on your phone.

I like to see one day 4g for Europe.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AshMa:
I have the Evo here in the Los Angeles area but no 4G here yet. The Evo is nice but I've had some issues with the build quality and so I'm no considering other phones like the Galaxy S, iPhone 4G or getting a replacement Evo once they are in stock again.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] igm503:
the samsung galaxy s is much better than the evo ( although the evo is still amazing) it has a 4 inch super amoled which is only slightly smaller than th 4.3 on the evo. it also has 8/16 gb built in storage alon with micro sd card. the hummingbird cpu is slightly faster than the snapdragon in the evo based on computing power, but the gpu in the hummingbird can push up to 90 million triangles while the snapdragon "only" does 22 i believe
[Galaxy S I9000 General] igm503:
also, sprint 4g is not true 4g, but wimax. verizon and att's upcoming lte is pontentially much faster. the max down speeds were getting here are 2 megabits per second
[Galaxy S I9000 General] raydm:
Vry nice comparison ...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] BuddyLee:
cant really say its a comparison ... more like an assumptions as he didnt or never used either.

needs hands on time.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] xtralongleave:
Hellooo? Don't forget about T-Mobile USA's recently launched HSPA+... You'll be waiting on LTE for quite a while. Realistically Sprint's "4G" is about as fast as HSPA+ but uploads speeds aren't nearly as fast on Sprint. Not to mention, Sprint's service is rolling out slower that T-Mobile's.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pecosROB:
Please feel free to move this in another section if a mod feels like it's out of place.

I'm new to Android, but not new to HTC devices. I used to have a WM6.1 (later 6.5) HTC Fuze/Touch Pro. Part of the reason I preferred an HTC phone over a Samsung or other manufacturer is the XDA community.

That being said, I understand that rooting seems to be the equivalent of doing the hard SPL on WM which enables you to flash a custom ROM.

I also understand there was an OTA patch on the launch day that addressed the microSD card issue and the root vulnerability.

So I guess this is really a two part question - the only thing I'm interested in rooting for is free tethering (I don't really care if it's over wi-fi or USB cable, either is fine but I suppose I'd prefer wi-fi). As far as programs and all that, I'm happy with everything that is already on the phone.

I've also read that cooked ROMs "degrade" over time - is this true? And is it true for stock ROMs as well?

1. Is there a root that gets by the latest OTA update?

2. Other than wi-fi tethering and some other apps, what advantages does rooting have? I'd rather not totally **** my phone up... but if it's just as easy if not easier to root than it is to do a hard SPL, then PLEASE let me know. I feel dumb reading some of these "easy guides" for rooting and they don't answer all of my questions. For example, if any of the root methods bypasses the most recent OTA.

Perhaps there are more answers in the comments, but I don't want read that much while I'm at work. Yes, call me lazy if you want. :-P

Many, many thanks in advance, and if someone wanted to write a pre-school level rooting guide with pics, that would be AWESOME and I'd be eternally indebted to you... that is if rooting gives me more hookups then just wi-fi tethering.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pseudoremora:
I don't know what you mean by the "degrade"... but if you're talking about ROM's not being maintained for their entire life cycle, that happens rarely here. Alll the Dev's here seem to maintain there ROM's very well, users send feedback in a variety of ways so that the ROM's are always up to date and customized with each new version. Stock ROM's are just that, stock. They don't usually get much customization and aren't maintained, because of the newer more customized ROM's that are put out by the Dev's.

Yes, you can use either the UnRevoked method or Toast's method -- I recommend using Toast's method as it will give you full root access.

If you're someone that likes to overclock your phone, you now have that ability; on top of the other things you mentioned (tethering, customizable ROM's, etc). Also, rooting isn't very hard at all, just follow the directions as stated and you'll be good to go. If you really want a seamlessly (but limited) root hack -- you can use the UnRevoked method, which is a simple application that basically toggles root access for you on your phone. Toast's method is a bit more in depth, but if you have experience with hacking your phone, you'll be fine.

And yes, these root methods BYPASS! the most recent OTA.

Indeed you are.:rolleyes:

There are a couple of threads already featuring "How-To" root with pictures. Please look in the Android Development thread.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rutter9:
I did a root. The only real positive thing is the free wifi tethering. But you can do that w/ the unrevoked root which is mind numbingly easy.

The different ROMs aren't dramatically shocking exactly. When 2.2 is final and error free I will flash to that. Otherwise my phone works just fine.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pseudoremora:
In order to have the ability to backup everything on your phone, you can use Titanium Backup (it's in the Market; and you mighr need root -- use UnRevoked) or use Toast's method and be able to do Nandroid back ups, which would image your phone and save it, so you can restore it at a later date.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pecosROB:
So it sounds like my best option is to use unrevoked in order to use Titanium Backup and then after that save the backup on the SD card and use toast's method to get full access, use titanium backup to recall info, and then use nandroid from there on out? Sounds like a lot of work - but at least I don't have to redownload and enter all my info in everything again.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jye75:
Skip this ^ part, it's redundant with the next part.

Edit: nevermind, forgot you wanted to back it all up prior to full root.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pseudoremora:
No No No.

You don't even have to worry about backing up your phone before rooting; there is a stock RUU image that will allow you to bring your phone back to factory default settings if you happen to screw up anything during rooting your phone or if you just want to go back to Stock period.

I would just root your phone using Toast's method, its really not that hard. If you want to tether and be able to backup your phone; having a full root access hack is preferred, plus then you have the ability to customize your phone with new themes, kernels, etc... and you may say you don't want to do that; but believe me you will.

Also, in regards to "recalling info" -- what do you mean? Since you're new to Android, i'll tell you that Google manages all your information for you. Your contacts, you Email, your apps, etc. If you move to another phone, your contacts and your Email will come with you. When you first get your phone, you have to sign in with a Gmail account, that account houses all your information for the phone and as such also keeps tracks of all your contacts and what not. Titanium Backup isn't really needed, if you're worried about losing information or whatever initially before rooting, then sure -- use it. Otherwise, if you already have all your information associated with your Gmail account that's being used by the phone, then I'd just root and after you've rooted, then do a Nandroid backup.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pecosROB:
But I thought doing a full root wipes your device clean? I'm trying to back it up before doing Toast's root in order to not have to configure everything again (Besides phone settings).
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jye75:
I edited my post... forgot about that.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pecosROB:
"Recalling info" means website logins, eBuddy accounts, settings for particular programs, my checkbook program with all the info in it.

I understand a lot of programs put **** on the SDcard, but will the actual programs that I've downloaded to the phone still be there? Rooting doesn't require a hard reset unless you mess up the process?

I understand the contacts and email - I'm not worried about that. Since I'm such a dedicated Gmail user I wanted to get into Android.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pseudoremora:
I don't do any of that, I wipe my cache and history, just because. But I would presume Titanium backup would take care of this, I've never needed to use Titanium, so I don't know.

Currently the programs will not be there. Froyo 2.2 should allow for this to happen though. Our phones are currently running Android 2.1 and Toast's method will wipe everything on the phone when you begin the rooting process (so yes, its a "hard reset").
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Breakthecycle2:
Here is an awesome question and answer blog to root or not to root. Good read for the noobs!

http://www.androidcentral.com/rooting-it-me-some-qa
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pops_G:
I come from a similar background as you, WinMo to Android. I will say the current options after rooting are limited. I went ahead and did it, and honestly the only thing I feel happened was I spent hours reconfiguring my home screens and settings/apps. The phone doesn't feel any faster and it doesn't have any new capabilities.

I appreciate the time the people put into ROMs and rooting and I know its hard work, its just too early to get a lot of tangible benefits.

If I could I would go back, I would just use UnrEVOked (I did for a few days). It's your stock ROM with the ability to tether. That's all most people would really want right now anyways.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pecosROB:
Many thanks!

I think I might just stick with UnrEVOked then. Do I just search for a tether app on the marketplace that says "root required"?

OK, so will the Sprint TV program and that kinda stuff be back? Because it sounds like it'll wipe it back to factory settings, allow for root access, but it'll still have the default programs when I'm done rooting that came with the phone out of the box?

Sorry, I am a total noob at Android Rooting. But I can hard SPL and flash cooked ROMs on WM all day long... haha pathetic.

XDA members ARE THE ****! :-D
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pseudoremora:
Yes. That's exactly what will happen. You'll have a stock, rooted phone, which you can now install a custom recovery image onto (The recovery image is how you would make backups of your phone, install custom themes, ROM's, wipe your phone, etc).

It's understandable, everyone here at some point or another was a "noob", but that changes quickly!:)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pecosROB:
I'm doing this at work and want to make it as stress free as possible...

I'm looking at the Rooting instructions by Toast, and I've noticed it says to not accept any OTAs once you root. So is there a chance my microSD card will not work? Or has this issue been resolved/updated?

Here is the link: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=690762

or this one? http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=685835

Once I root with the PC36IMG, do I then immediately have to install a ROM like this to get it back to stock?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=693980

But only after doing the Recovery? I think I got this figured out about 75%... heh
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pseudoremora:
Alright,

You need to follow the steps in THIS thread first. This is the first part of rooting your Evo using Toast's method. The first part will allow you to gain only about 50% root access and you'll also be able to use Amon_RA's recovery to make a Nandroid backup and flash a custom ROM; but hold off on that until you've completed the next step, continue reading...

Then you need to follow Toast's SECOND part of the rooting process, this process will complete the root hack altogether. This second part will give you full root access on every partition on the phone (which was missing in part 1). After you complete this second part, you can NOW install a custom ROM, recovery, etc.

So, basically, do the first part -- after you've completed it, do the second part... the second part will look similar to the first, but download all the new files and follow the directions as written! You'll see that the last step in the second part will instruct you to install Amon_RA's recovery image, do that. After that's done, you now have:

1. Full root access

2. A Custom recovery image (Amon_RA's)

3. You can make a Nandroid back up

4. Can install/flash custom ROM's

5. Tether

6. Etc.

To boot into recovery mode, do as follows:

1. Turn of your phone -- hold the power button, choose power off.

2. Press Volume Down + Power, until you see a white bootloading screen, using your Volume rocker keys (up and down), choose recovery.. then to select "recovery", click the Power button. Your phone will reboot, and go into recovery. This is where you can make a Nandroid backup and flash custom ROM's. Follow the instructions in recovery to navigate around it.

Also, as far as flashing custom ROM's goes, please look at this link

This is the Wiki page for all the current ROM's that have been made for the Evo.

If you get stuck or need anymore help -- continue asking questions; but please also look at this before doing so.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pecosROB:
sweet, thanks. I've already gotten the first part of the root access done, I'm just on that part where I have rename the file on the card.
[Touch 3G Accessories] mattsfre:
Hi!

Is there any dual som adapter that fits Touch 3G?

How do you switch between the sim cards?
[Touch 3G Accessories] cPT.cAPSLOCK:
I don't think there is - it won't fit because of the battery.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] tomtx500:
Hi there, i have just purchased a samsung i780 second hand and the previous owner has upgraded it to vm6.5, however it seems to have a few problems. First of all the keyboard does'nt seem to work for messaging (and there is an application called fingerboard 2 that does seem to work) and also all the icons seems missaligned in the menus......and there is no pop down start menu and the today page looks quite unsual. Here are some pictures which may give you a better idea.

Is it possible to restore the phone to the original orange rom?

also i have vista so will this make it very difficult

regards tomtx500
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] hashtowent:
you might try official dxib1 updater for english phones =)

search the forum dont have link anymore sry
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] tomtx500:
The official samsung updater doesnt work, it says that the software version is incorrect =[
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] heineken78:
You have 3 possibiliteis dude:

First 2 are to install newer 6.5 rom, that has no issues like that, but may be other new ;):

1. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=537608

2. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=599652

3. install official DXIB1 only !! after one before.

Most easy way to aware incorrect versione error is to install first one of both roms. Than its clear for PDXIB1 update next.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] tomtx500:
cant flash the phone

Right, ive got my phone in emergency mode, loader up mirage (in vista), loaded htc drivers as recommended in the guide, selected that rom under the pda option but whenever i plug my phone in it says pda not found. :(
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] heineken78:
Thats instruction never came true as far I see you use win7 64 bits.

Use http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=4866182#post4866182

But it works only if you choise test mode by pressing F8 before windows starting on PC. If you dont choise for test mode boot. win7 will not accept driver mensioned.

For easy way, without those problems use xp computer.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] tomtx500:
Im using windows vista 32 bit however i may have made a mistake by selecting htc after the have disk bit rather then samsung. Could that cause a problem?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] heineken78:
For vista 32 you need to download windows mobile center (WMC), and only install samsung modem drivers. and nothing more. it work official way!

If you had already WMC and replaced driver by HTC, then plugoff phone, uninstall WMC. restrart pc and install again.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] tomtx500:
Thank you for all your help, i however have resolved most of the issues i mentioned and it was all down to configuration within the os.......n00b my bad heh.
[P3600 Software Upgrading] iugo:
i have trin100, he had wm6 in intalian language, i maked hard-spl and write rom 2_RUU_Trinity_HTC_WWE_1_1_.23.405.2_103_6275_1.38.00.11_108_GPS to have english language,but now i have wm5 and no gps suport, how can upgrade my phone to wm6?

thanks
[P3600 Software Upgrading] iugo:
nobody can help me?
[Desire General] Obasau:
Hello, my company uses Domino Mail Server and has set up Notes Traveler to sync with mobiles. Is there any way to use the Desire's integrated ActiveSync with this? When I configure the Server, after the screen that lets me choose what to sync (Email, calendar, contacts) I get an Error message that tells me to try again later. Is there any way to use this, Nitrodesk Touchdown works, but I hate how it only shows the calendar and mails within the app and not in the Phones calendar.

Thanks for your help!
[Desire General] stvjfp1:
Looks like traveler for Android is close:

"IBM June 17 released the beta version of its free Lotus Notes Traveler for Android application to let Lotus Notes customers access e-mail, calendar and contacts from an Android 2.0 or later device. The app will work for the Android 2.1-based Motorola Droid, Nexus One, HTC Droid Incredible and HTC Evo 4G. IBM also said its next version of Lotus Connections social software will support Android"

Source: eweek.com
[Desire General] Pondy:
Unfortunately my work uses Notes as well, and I have a Desire. Can anybody get hold of this beta?
[Desire General] ElVikin:
not that easy

I was looking for it to but i found out that the server u connect to have to run a beta to for the android beta to work, and have to have a IBM login to bee able to sign up for the beta.

I wont be able to get m company to run a beta server just for me so i have to wait until i can use my deisre insteed of my "work phone" :(
[Desire General] Pondy:
Yeah I just read that too. There are about 5 Desire users at my work, so hopefully we might see it soon.
[Desire General] JohnSteveDoe:
Heh. I'm sensing no. We have 800 people working in our location, and about 6 of us have a Desire. There's no way a corporation is going to put everyone through a beta program for the benefit of 0.2% of their employees (and thank God for that, seeing how I do tech support and I'd have to be the one to clean up the mess!)

Sorry :p
[Desire General] Edward Lowy:
We have used Commontime software for some years with Notes - works well on Android, Windows Mobile, Symbian.

http://www.commontime.com/
[Desire General] n8sgarage:
We have the beta traveler server installed (separate from our IBM iseries domino server) and it works OK. It's still a separate app for calendar and mail. Nitrodesk has many more features and is preferred by our beta testers (IT staff).
[Desire General] cowsick:
Hmm they have just updated to 8.5.2.0 on the traveler server at work.

Calendar and contacts and mail are fully integrated with my Android (htc desire)

I have no traveler client... one problem though... when opening mail, the email client crashes.... everything else works. I can list their mails and mapps but not open any mail.
[Desire General] dicksoft:
Widget.

Couldn't someone make a Widget for Traveler . atleast the calendar
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] N00dle:
So I rooted my Evo using toasts root method both part 1 and 2. I am having a few issues though.

Now I haven't flashed any ROM after doing a nandroid restore at the end of the Part 2 tutorial.

Issues I'm having.

Can't set up Exchange email account. I keep getting an authentication failed. I have double and triple checked my settings. Is there a known issue with this after root?

Superuser Permissions just blank and things that I know should be asking for permission aren't? Before when I had unrEvoked things like WiFi Tether and Overclock Widget asked to be granted Superuser Permissions and now neither do and WiFi Tether won't connect.

I did have to load the apk for Superuser Permissions from a backup due to it not being there after I rooted.

I also know there has been mention of toasts root having issues with Android Market protected apps. Has this been fixed?

When I went through the root process I didn't get any unusual errors. Just a few that were my fault like not having the phone in charge only mode.

Should I just flash Flipz stock rooted rom? Should I wipe and start over?

Everything seemed to go smoothly I'm just a smidge new to Android so I'm hoping I might have just missed a step somewhere that I thought might have been optional.

Thanks in advance for the help
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oOflyeyesOo:
Flash to flipz now, thats what I ended up doing. I was also having problems with the stock rom that needed to be installed after root. Same problem with superuser, I actually had to install unrevoked, just to get superuser back, and so I could use the wireless tether. I did a wipe and installed fresh, and everything worked right away, no problems at all.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] N00dle:
Yeah looks like I'm just going with flipz. I just tried unrevoked to get back superuser permissions working and well it worked and wifi tether works now. I have now lost usb connection. Phone will charge but doesn't ask me if I want disk drive mode etc.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tjsimmons:
Hi all, so. I'm using CM 5.0.7.1 but absolutely love the HTC Sense fullscreen calendar widget. Is there anything similar to that in the market or anything that I can download? The stock calendar widget is lacking, I think.

Thanks!
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wesbalmer:
I think Pure Calendar is the best, when not on SenseUI
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] khaytsus:
Pure Calendar is okay, it's not too expensive. But the Agenda Widget is more flexible, very configurable, well supported, and is free!

http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.roflharrison.agenda
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tjsimmons:
Checking out Agenda Widget. Thanks!
[Hero CDMA General] richse:
My version of swype (1.25.16.5612) died today. I searched and found a newer version (1.56.30.7625) but it tells me it was made for a different phone so it won't work. Does anyone know of a link for a working swype for our phone? Thanks.
[Hero CDMA General] nebenezer:
I just dl'd THESE, about to try them.
[Hero CDMA General] nebenezer:
Confirmed working :D :D
[Hero CDMA General] Nanan00:
Yep that works.
[Hero CDMA General] centran:
The time between nukes is getting sooner and sooner. I wonder if they are planning on releasing something soon.

However, I always thought Swype decided to go the manufacture route and sell directly to them... But then they have that Beta... But then there is no indication they are going to sell this as an app and they only market Swype as a feature of certain phones.

I think they might have an old licensing contract that states they can't sell Swype as an app to individuals but that contract might be expiring soon.

Does anyone know what the hell is going on with that company and Swype?
[Hero CDMA General] nebenezer:
I have no idea what the inside scoop is but it boggles my mind that Swype isn't on the market for $5 or even $10.
[Hero CDMA General] DirtyShroomz:
I would do 5 def not 10...
[Hero CDMA General] iczerjones:
Agreed - I could do five. btw/ thanks much for posting up the links in the other thread. I went to text my g/f this morning and was horrified I could not swype. I was so dazed, I just gave up on texting for that moment. =P

1.56 working perfectly.