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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] majorajo:
Newbie to Android on Kaiser: Battery drain, restarts/reboots, crashes etc.

Hi everybody,

I am new to Android on Kaiser. I have followed the guide for dummies, but things are not working well :(.

Here is my procedure:

HardSPL, Radio done. SIM unlock as well (however done, I had to turn off PIN on SIM, because the Android does not accepted the correct PIN code :confused:)

latest kernel from Dzo's site, editing of NBH file with Loser's NBH Editor, then downloaded and installed VaniljEclair RLS7c [2010-07-02] (sys and data on NAND)

System booted correctly. Almost everything worked fine, until I went to reboot/restart the phone. Phone hanged (I had to reset with stylus). After restart errors came out - Sorry the process android.process.* (* = acore, keyboard etc.) has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again.

I was not able to to fix it, so I tried re-install a few times (both kernel and rom). I tried another kernel and rom as well, but with the same result.

Other issues:

battery drain - the battery always goes suddenly from cca 60-70% charge to 15%. No matter whether I heavily use it or not.

camera not working - camera launch ends with crash report (on all used roms)

I really would like to use Android - it is much faster and way far better navigable with fingers than windows, offers more applications etc. (you know it yourselves :)) - but these things make me sick :(.

Do you have any idea, what can be the problem or what did I wrong?

Thank you
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
dzo's latest kernels are not suitable for eclair, they are designed for froyo.

It is better to get the newest eclair nbh and flash that, also restarting using stylus may cause boot problems, the best way is to pull the battery and restart that way.

Bear in mind that although we have come a long way, there are still a number of issues still to be fixed, battery life is lower than WM, but android is not particularly great with battery anyway, even on native devices, the camera will not work using a froyo nbh.

The sudden battery drain issue is well known, as android learns your battery it will get better with it's battery estimates, it does not really drop to 15% battery, android only thinks it's that percentage, when this happens i plug in the charger overnight. which is a good habit to get into anyway, I get a whole day with light use out of my battery now, and charge overnight, every night.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] noodlesgc:
Phone call wakeup time

Is there any way to avoid the amount of time it takes to wakeup when a phonecall comes in?

Does anyone else have this issue?

For me it takes ~4 rings before the UI becomes responsive enough to use the slider to answer/ignore the call.

( RLS7c w/ latest eclair kernel. )

Thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mutoloko:
I have this same problem. That's so bad.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] RuuddieBoy:
I see I am currently using kaisimg-panel2-320-tilt-27-06-10, with which Bluetooth audio doesn't work for me. I just read a post by k_k saying there was a known bug in the Kaiser nbh that got fixed June 29th. So would my Bluetooth audio work if I'd install dzo's kaisimg-panel2-320-tilt-eclair-02-07-10.nbh ?

And would installing this cause any issues for my current installation? Or should I just be able to keep using my current RLS6 installation without issues? I've read quite some topics and I saw that something screen-related changed mid June in the nbh's, which caused people to have to reinstall their Android when they upgraded nbh's after this date. I just want to make sure I won't have to spend 2 hours to customize my phone again.

No problem, thanks anyway :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
You can simply flash another nbh, no need to reinstall android, I have done this many times, on varous builds.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] berk_cglr:
Why, when new messages if my phone does not vibrate vibration mode and how can i fix please someone help

because it does not vibrate in any android version

sorry for my bad english
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] w0ngj0w0:
my bluetooth can't turn on. can somebody help me ? thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mnjm9b:
yes...somebody can.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] w0ngj0w0:
bluetooth can not be turned on. if you can help me?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] sancho1234:
What is the version of Spl, Radio, etc..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] huttonjd:
TILT USERS: Camera and Bluetooth working!

I know this is strange, but my camara and BT work on my TILT using an old NBH.

Here is what I did:

1. Installed kaisimg-panel2-320-tilt-froyo-07-07-10.nbh

2. Install 7c version (on first page)

After booting and connecting I noticed my BT was not work, nor my Camera

3. I installed KAIS-PANEL2-320-TILT-ECLAIR-18-03-10.NBH

After booting BT was working and so was camera!!:D:D

GPS crashes system.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Froyo nbh's do not work correctly with eclair builds, which is why you had problems in the first place, flashing an eclair nbh naturally works better if you are using an eclair build.

However I think the nbh you used was a little too old perhaps, (18th february?).

If you flash a more recent eclair nbh I suspect everything will work better: http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/files/?C=M;O=D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] huttonjd:
Interesting.....

Why does the NBH Editor groups Eclair and Froyo together?

I opened up kaisimg-panel2-320-tilt-froyo-07-07-10.nbh with both NBH Editor and iHex. Each showed hw3d.version=1.

I had tired several kaiser nbh's, including kaisimg-panel2-320-tilt-eclair-02-07-10.nbh.

BT Did not work for me
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] hopper16:
Tethering Capability?

Hi All,

I've flashed RLS7c onto two AT&T Tilts and aside from an occasional crash have been using it as my main phone for over a week. BT calls, camera all work fine. I miss having tethering working, however, and am wondering if it doesn't work because it isn't compiled into the kernel. I looked at /proc/config.gz and it says:

# CONFIG_BRIDGE is not set

wouldn't we need that for brctl (called from the tether scripts) to function properly? (Running dzo's kaisimg-panel2-320-tilt-eclair-02-07-10.nbh).

And a follow-up for kault_kaffe (and dzo if he ever reads this thread), have you guys lost interest in eclair and moved on to froyo? Just wondering if I would be better served by moving on as well if that's where all the new dev action will be.

Thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Necrodaemon:
Great job , but the rom have small bugs, WiFi work , BT not work for listen music :(

Thanks ....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mekanix:
Hello,

Almost everything it's working for me, except:

tethering (both wifi or usb - says kernel too old; I use kalt_kaffe's kernel)

headset - important, at least for me - anyone knows what I can do about this issue?

Regards
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] RuuddieBoy:
Did you find a solution to loosing the signal? Found a good radio that works?

I used to live in Canada, where I received a perfect signal. However, I moved back to the Netherlands last week. In the first day, my signal was perfect. However, after changing my location settings, I basically can't get a signal anymore. I think it's coincidence that it happened after changing my location settings, and even after switching back to the Canada location, my signal still doesn't work.

Basically, when I am in a location where I should have a signal (tried putting my SIM card in my Nokia, and I have full signal at that place), I get a signal icon for 1 second, and after that I see the no-signal icon again. Every 30-40 seconds I see a signal icon for 1 second, and after that I see a no-signal icon again.

I am using RLS6. Would upgrading to RLS7c work?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
I switched to 1.65.21.18, made a huge difference to my dropped signal problems, it still happens on occasion, but it's no longer an everyday thing, more like once a week maybe, and a restart usually fixes it.

I would consider upgrading to RLS7c, it is a little more stable in my opinion, and basically all the fixes are in place, it's what I am using now, (just never made the time to change my sig)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] RuuddieBoy:
Thanks a lot! I'll try switching to the 1.65.21.18 radio and upgrade to RLS7c.

If I want to upgrade without losing my settings, should I just install the androidinstall.tar and when it asks to delete user files, select no? Or anything else I should do?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] huttonjd:
This weekend I re-cored my Tilt using kaisimg-panel2-320-tilt-eclair-02-07-10.nbh and everything appears to be working (BT, Camera, Wifi, GPS) with just some minor annoyances.

BT 1.0 vs 2.0

The only issue I have with BT now is after I turn off my vehicle(BlueTooth 1.0 ) the phone will not disconnect. I have to turn off BT manually.

BT is fine with my earpeice (2.0 BT)

GPS

GPS does eventually find satalites, but it took about 2 mins.

Camera

Works fine. no crashes.

Will try this configuration for a while and report back.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Personally I always delete data when reinstalling, but yes, generally if you want to keep your data, then say no.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] huttonjd:
I tried to keep my data, even on reinstall of same build, but it allways ends up that I have to re-install and blow away my data, because my system becomes unstable and crashes.

Not sure why keeping same data for same install does not work for me.

I would recommend always delete exsting data.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] w0ngj0w0:
You can use titanium backup for keep your application and data,contact etc.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] defendthecommons:
Auto-focus not working, mostly great tho! Crashes sometimes, Google Maps question

Hi humans worth their salt,

Long time lurker, first time poster. Thanks you for reading.

I've got this VaniljEclair RLS7c up and running with 7-2-10image. Me happy! :D

My barcode scanning can't work because of the blurry image, no autofocus. Any thoughts?

Also, I have my panel set to 3, and I still get a flash of white screen before waking. It's quick, and usually not an issue.

Unfortunately, though, I've had some crashes where:

a) after 1 hour, white screen stuck while waking, removed batt

b) black screen (coma) while finishing a Market download, or installation of app, keyboard open, blackscreen, no response, not even a flashing green light! It's dead. Remove batt and reboot, Haret and it's back where it was... app installed.

Perhaps something to do with app install forcing a reboot??

Wifi is always on, Bluetooth and GPS have been OFF.

All in all, very snappy. GPS did work in about 5 minutes of driving. VIDEO crashed.

Haven't done much talking, dialing, receiving calls, music listening, USBaudio headphones... will test.

How to map camera button to camera?

And how to map other buttons? The Messaging button next to OK button doesn't do anything on my Kaiser, would be nice. Though I discovered the option to make a Shortcut to Direct Message... so I have an icon setup to Message VIPs and 46645 in one click. Me likes.

Does anyone know if granting Google Maps (or Brut) access to my entire contacts, comms, etc could be hijacked? Who audits this stuff/code? Made me want to have ZoneAlarm or Little Snitch installed to see when and to where my data is being sent. :eek: Thoughts? Apps for monitoring this? I'm open to Terminal commands, too. I'd love to know what IP addresses Apps are sending data to.

Other than that, it took me a while to figure out Calibrate Screen. It went black and I didn't see these tiny little red dots, one in bottom right corner, and then one in top left corner. Once I discovered and tapped these, it told me "screen calibrated". phew.

Appreciate your great work!

-D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Camera is still in the early stages of development, so no autofocus yet.

White screen, almost certainly panel type, you use panel 3, try panel 2, they are very similar, but sleep issues are one symptom of panel2/panel3 mismatch
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
Great news... Get the new libcamera from here (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=714105) and use a Froyo kernel and you should be able to get both the extra 11Mb and use the camera.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aditama85:
agreed, but works better to change it first to panel 1 type with nbh editor
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mnjm9b:
no auto yet but you can focus manually by scrolling wheel.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kentooi87:
why my wifi still unable to start???!!!!

i tried zimage 06-07-2010 and 02-07-2010 also unable to start my wifi for 7c...please tell me wat the problem having to my phone...i able to use wifi in polymod but never success turn on wifi in VaniljEclair...please someone help me to solve this...i like VaniljEclair...very stable and fast...is too bad i can't make the wifi work...i tried alot of zimage ady...is it any possible other things tat causing this problem...:(

Edit: i install in SD card...isit got relate to the Winmo i using???
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kentooi87:
i install in SD card...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zere001:
no location

Hello all, never posted before but have read a lot. I am new to the android systems, and was wondering what may be causing an issue of mine:

At all times, my kaiser can't find my location w/o gps.(haven't played with gps yet) :confused:

HTC KAISER running:

3.34 HSPL

1.65.21.18 Radio

kaisimg-panel2-320-tilt-eclair-02-07-10 Kernel

VaniljEclair_RLS7c with libcamera update

Thanks for the great work on this build, everything else works wonderfully. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Juraus:
Thanks! That worked for me!:)

No I have another problem... I did SIM unlock to my phone but 'Android' still asks me to input my 4 or 8 digit PIN number... It doesn't accept my regular 4 digit PIN number... should I input my 8 digit PUK number instead :confused:

-Juraus
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
@zere001: Cell location does not work on our devices yet, so location only really works for wifi and gps at the moment.

@Juraus: your SIM itself is still locked, you have unlocked the phone to use any SIM, but that does not remove the PIN from the SIM itself, you should disable the SIM pin before installing Android, since there is a problem with it, and it will not recognise the unlock code properly. If you have another phone you should be able to disable the PIN code using that, the phone is asking for your regular PIN number, not the PUK.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] msd24200:
still loving this build, only problems ive had have been the not waking from sleep other than that its very fast and stable I also got in on the swype beta but wasn't able to get it because of the kaiser screen resolution
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] qkall:
out of curiosity are you using any task killer? i realized if i had one on it totally fked my phone... without it it works better and usually wakes from sleep.... i've only encountered this with this build (warm donut refugee)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
I always use Taskiller, never had a freeze problem, however it is possible that you have the panel2/panel3 issue, where display seems fine, but there are sleep issues. Try changing panel type 2-3 and see if it helps

Sent from my T-Mobile G1
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] nemuro:
I installed yesterday rsl7c, it goes quite fast, however the battery is a problem.

I left it overnight to charge. At 7 AM I disconnected the charger and at 9:15 am, the battery was about 75%.

I did all the tricks I could find, 0% brightness, 2g only, wifi and bt off... No background data connections, etc.

I even installed a program that makes it go into airplane mode between 1 am and 6 am.

I use TynII.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] duke911:
give it few days.. Android will learn how to read your battery properly...

I had this at first, but in week or so, the battery life is very reasonable (for a second phone)

I only use my Kaiser for phone calls, and read SMS, maybe some market surfing... it last about 2 days
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] noodlesgc:
An annoying issue just started happening to me:

When browsing, updating or downloading anything from the market, sometimes the entire system will crash and return to the boot animation.

It seems to happen at random during market activity.

Has anyone else had this issue?

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] msd24200:
i've not had this issue, been working fine for me.

im running from a 2gig sandisk card as well, haven't tried to flash to nand as i am to lazy to re input all my appointments
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] msd24200:
yeah, i've not had problems with task managers either, i use arronsoft task manager i believe, i've been to lazy to change the panel type, it's on 3 right now, been running winmo instead, hoping att will get something bigger from htc other than the aria, don't get me wrong the aria is really nice, my wife has one, we love it, i just think it's to small for me. my old tilt is starting to have a few issues here and there, i think its just time for new cooked rom, but really tempted to upgrade to something else SOON. the captivate looks nice, but not a fan of samsung phones. wish att had an ATT EVO :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] defendthecommons:
Focus wheel! woohoo, now how can I default set focus to closeup

Thanks for the lesson. Now, until the autofocus is working, which the camera update didn't fix for me, it would be great if I could get the default focus setting to be NEAR instead of far. Every time I want to scan something, I have to spin the wheel all the way UP to get close up of barcode. Where might I be able to mod that setting?

Other notes:

- my white screen crashing stopped with panel=2 and panel=3 after I killed the App Killer that was always running in the background. Handy as it is, it's an ondemand app, now. Seems to have fixed my waking problem.

- any support for USB headphone adaptor? The power passes through it, but the speaker doesn't cut out when I'm playing music and pipe it though the adaptor's 1/8" jack.

UPDATE: It all works. Had to turn off the app, plug in the USB adaptor and headphones, and start again. Sound passes through fine.

- I was able to get my Kaiser to finally connect to my Linksys WRT54GS v1. I'm using dd-wrt.v24-9517_VINT_std.bin ... annoying, basically other computers could connect, but my phone would almost connect, obtaining IP address for a while, then disconnecting. I was in Repeater Bridge mode, all open, no encryption... and I was getting assigned IP by an "Apple Router ed###" the primary router (neighbor). I changed my DD WRT's mode to Repeater and had my virtual interface do it's own DHCP on its own IP network, so I think the Kaiser liked getting assigned an IP from something other than the Apple... with a single SSID name, no spaces. :D Anyone else have problems connecting to Apple wifi networks?

Great stuff
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] lercio:
For the record, the headphone socket works OK on my Kaiser. I use it to listen to podcasts in the car with a ExtUSB splitter. It always fails the first time, then I pause the recording, replug the lead and start it again and it works.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Either unplugging/replugging, or plugging and adjusting ringer volume before putting any audio on, both seem to trigger the headset detection, same when unplugging sometimes too, in fact the plug, adjust volume ritual has become so much of a ritual I even do it with my G1, lol.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
FYI, I've been busy (and still is) with other stuff but slowly I'm working on RLS8 which will have the following changes:

- Working superuser permissions app (safer su as it ask you every time a new program request root permissions and wifi tethering also doesn't seem to work without it)

- Wifi tethering

- New compcache modules (should be a little more effective but requires a recent kernel)

- New libcamera that allows using Froyo kernel (= 11Mb extra memory and camera working at the same time).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] duke911:
can't wait :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
New version in first post. I also included the HTC_IME touch input from the Fresh Froyo build as it fitted. I just realized that there propably aren't any space left for the VoiceSearchWithKeyboard anymore so you may want to delete this one before installing if you intend to install the VoiceKeyboard.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] immolo:
Thanks Kallt_kaffe nice update.

But on a different matter does anyone know any themes that work well with this?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bleys:
Hello i got strange colors on this, something like using 256 colors on PC what's the problem?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Takiyon:
WIFI Tether Problem

When trying to tether the error log shows

Enabling NAT rules

failed

How do I fix? or is this a bug.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cqf20022002:
anyone knows how to cancel the vibration when unlocking screen? TIA
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] sangaw1:
same on mine... even rls6/rls7b/rls8, can anybody help us please :(

appreciate with that and thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mnjm9b:
my rude half wants me to say

"Put the phone down and stop messing with things if your not willing to read up on the subject matter!!!!"

and the nice part of me wants to say

"please try and search for your answers before asking...especially when it has been answered 100s if not 1000s of times already"

not much different but you get the idea.

and just because I am in a good mood....

here is a hint.... (Change Panel Type)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tiagoclc:
Just try another nbh. Some with any other panel type...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ktutza2006:
Edit the .nbh and change your panel type. I've attached the tool here :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Takiyon:
WIFI Tethering

Is there any way to enable NAT. What commands can I put in the terminal window. Right now error shows "Enabling Nat Rules - Failed" in the Wifi Tether app on a clean install. How can I fix this? I'm not very good a linux yet. but I'm learning :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
I'm not sure what's wrong yet. I had it working at one point but it seems it got broken somewhere along the way. I'm looking into it when I have some spare time.

EDIT: I know what's wrong now. I'll fix it ASAP.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
Fix attached in first post. If you have tried it without the fix go into setup, press menu button and choose to reinstall binaries/config and after that it should work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
I think I found the reason for that, at least I have a working charging LED now, haven't tested more than that.