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[EVO 4G General] Xenithflare:
I do apologize for seeming peeved about all this, but after reading through the entire thread and seeing the same response again and again about how Sprint shouldn't be giving a refurb blah blahbidiblahblah, I was having to grate my teeth XD I'm certainly not posting out of spite or argument, so please don't think I am :o

I'm not saying a replacement isn't necessary, I'm not even saying that people complain over nothing. I understand frustrations with phones, and how important phones are to our day-to-day lives.

With that said...

There is a time and a place, and XDA does not need four pages filled wall-to-wall with complaints involving the exact same things. If you have a slightly different problem than the rest of the community, it usually does not warrant another thread; post it in one that already exists, that's why we have a search button. Or, if you must, make a compilation thread going over problems that everyone is having, and edit the original post over time.

People complain about all the complainers (hypocrites, yeah yeah) for one simple reason: XDA is not an average, new-user forum. XDA is a Developer's forum, and as such we do not condone posts like those you would find on the AT&T forums, or the Verizon forums. We respond to intelligent beings who post their problems, ask for a fix, and then listen to the advice they're given. OP has not done this, so it's only natural the normal forum-goers get a little testy.

As for wanting a replacement for a defective unit, I completely agree that I would not want a refurbished unit! However, that is not the point; the point is that he wants a replacement. Okay, everyone thus far has said the same thing: go to the place you bought it. That should have been his only course of action. THAT is the crux of our dilemma. He should not be talking to Sprint in any way. I hope you can understand that nobody here is arguing that he isn't entitled to a proper replacement, but rather that it's been pointed out the proper course of action, and he's ignored it.

I would want a new EVO right away too, had I gotten a defective unit (had I in fact bought one on launch day, which I know better than to do by now :p), but I would also have the presence of mind to know that it would not be instant, or even relatively SOON. I hope he can get it taken care of, but mainly I hope he realizes he needs to have patience with his solution.
[EVO 4G General] Neotelos_com:
My service is through Sprint, Sprint paid Radioshack a spiff and sent them the phones to begin with...not to mention the contract is through Sprint too.

How is getting the phone through Radioshack any different than Sprint?

*Main post edited to reflect my logic
[EVO 4G General] AshMa:
Well sir, since you put it that way; I do believe I agree with most of this latest post of yours. Furthermore you’ve reminded me of something that I seem to forget around here about this site being a developers site. I really need to remember that as I have gotten so frustrated with this site, so much so that the iPhone is looking more and more attractive and I’ve always hated iPhones.

Moving on a bit from the topic of this thread, what I’m referring to is that Android has been a pain for me to learn and I’m still clueless to much to do about flashing and adb, Linux commands, etc. With WinMo on my HD2, I could do just about anything on it and flashing a few times a week became the norm for me until I found a ROM version that was good enough to stick with. But with Android I barely got through the instructions for rooting.

Internet forums in general really suck and I would like to do something about it rather than just complain about them and so a business plan is in R&D as we speak.

Really, whether it’s xda or any site; having to read pages and pages to find the answer to one small issue is so 1990’s and needs to be changed. This site really is a mess to non super geeks (I’m a geek without the super). Instructions on how to do something can be found on one page but then you have to go to 4 or 5 other linked pages to get the rest of the instructions for the topic from the first page you were on. Most forums are ugly and messy and sadly this site is one of the worst (hope I don’t get d-sixed for that comment). :D

And YES is would be great if all the related issues or topics could be all on one thread. Perhaps the ability for anyone to move a post, sort of a Wiki type edit feature where anyone can move a post (but of course only the author would be able to edit the content of the post). Sometimes people forget to search first or they do search but the choice of words they are using to describe the issue is not bringing up the other threads.

And I also agree that going through a thread, reading dozen of comments all saying "me too, I also have that problem" can get in the way. But there isn't an easier way on here, for people to say me too without just posting so. But I do know there is a better way to handle that and other issues with this forum.......

Well I guess we've both made our points and did so without the angry name calling and so we are both in the right as far as I'm concerned because after all we're just here talking about software and hardware that none of us created or own the rights to......
[EVO 4G General] AshMa:
This appears to make sense but if I'm not mistaken, RadioShack sold you (and me) two different products. One product is the Evo and the other is the Sprint wireless service contract. Once RadioShack gets it's Evo stock, those phones are just like any other product they sell. Remember you can walk into a RadioShack and buy an Evo at full retail price and have nothing to do with Sprint ever. The only reason you didn't have to pay full retail for your Evo is because Sprint said hey Mr. RadioShack, instead of selling those Evo's for $600.00 or $700.00, why don't you sell them for $200.00 along with selling that same customer one of our wireless service contracts and we will kick you back x amount of dollars (which would basically be RS's commission for selling that 2nd product; the wireless contract).
[EVO 4G General] geekykid:
you are complaining about a "re-certified" phone two weeks after the phone has been released? did you stop and think "wait.. this has only been out for two weeks... they have to send me a new one. they shouldnt really have reconditioned phones yet".

send it back already.
[EVO 4G General] AshMa:
What you and others are not getting is that for those of us who bought the Evo on a new contract from RadioShack are screwed until RadioShack gets new phones in. He can't just send it back nor can I. New contract means we ported in our numbers from another carrier. If we return our RadioShack defective Evo's right now, since they have none to replace with, then we either get another Sprint phone model or the contract gets terminated. If that new contract gets terminated, then we say bye bye to our phone number which gets sent into a pool right away, to be given to anyone in the world.

You can not start a new Sprint contract and port in your number from the Sprint contract you just terminated at radioShack (you can try but they can't be sure you'll get your same number back). And no you can not return a RadioShack Evo, keep the contract and then go try and by a new Evo from Sprint or Best Buy at the discounted RadioShack contract price.

So again, how can he just send it back?
[EVO 4G General] geekykid:
hmm that does seem odd. can you take it to the sprint store and complain about defectiveness? they can give you a loaner until you get the "refurbished" one in.
[EVO 4G General] mrmomoman:
How did this complaint get to 5 pages of the same rant/complaint?

Seriously?

OP have you ever bought anything from NewEgg? Try to get a replacement with them. See how your logic works.

Sprint = Sprint for returns.

RS = RS for returns.

Best Buy = Best Buy for returns.

Walmart = Walmart for returns.

Does that make sense?

Dell sold at Staples = return to Staples - not HEY DELL GIVE ME A NEW UNIT even though I bought it from STAPLES.

Does that make sense?

Just talk to the Manager at the RS store. Tell him/her you will keep the phone but that you want him to provide you with a new phone when it arrives. Ask him/her to work with you on that. If not cancel your phone. Go to a Sprint Store and get a new phone when they come in. Ask for a waiver of the activation fee for a new temp phone while you wait. I am sure if you are nice and don't voice your anger like you have here then you might get somewhere with them.
[EVO 4G General] AshMa:
Funny you should mention loaner; as for me, I consider my defective Evo a loaner as I know I'm not keeping it and it's not costing me anything to hold onto it for 30 days so I'm not even concerned about a screen protector which also gives me a chance to see if the screen does hold up without one. Glass is half full through the bad luck of a defective unit :D

As long as the OP and anyone else has a working Evo, just relax and enjoy your loaner until new ones come in. But if you are approaching the 30 day mark and your retail store is still out of stock, just make sure you get a confirmation that they will honor the exchange even if it falls after 30 days. And if you want more protection than just a word, get it in email exchanges with the manager.

Okay for me, more than enough xda for now.......Good luck to all and enjoy your devices and most of all enjoy the life in which you use your devices in. No matter how you look at it, we're all pretty dang lucky.
[EVO 4G General] Xenithflare:
Okay, okay. You're missing the point here, so I'll try to clear it up as much as I can. If you bought something at Target, would you return it to Best Buy? No. Ask yourself why not. The answer you gave is probably the same answer we've been trying to tell you all along.

You didn't buy it there.

The reason Sprint can't just return it is simple: every retail store uses a different system for handling sales and returns. There is a process to go through. They need previous ticket and location information, and it's obviously not going to match up.

Say you didn't want to exchange it, but wanted your money back. You'd basically want Sprint to give you money back in exchange for something they didn't sell you. If you were selling something yourself, in your business, and someone came up to you and said, "Hey, I bought this from someone else, but it doesn't work. I want you to give me my money back for it," I bet you wouldn't do it. You never got money for it in the first place, right?

The phone is like any other piece of merchandise, if it goes bad, you take it back to the place you bought it. The contract isn't what you purchased; you purchased the phone, which was given to you at a lower rate because you added a contract to it. Within 30 days, you are entitled to a new replacement unit. After that time period... Radioshack can't help you, and you might be lucky to get a new one on your manufacturer's warranty. But it's doubtful.

You contradicted yourself just there. If something goes wrong with your Sears-bought Sharp TV within 30 days, you would indeed deal with Sears. After that, you're right, it isn't Sears' issue... but that's not what your post is about. Your post is about a defective unit within its 30-day window. Have I gotten through to you yet?

To recap: you bought a Dell computer through Best Buy. It went bad in a week. You don't take it to Dell, because it's Best Buy's job to take care of it in the first 30 days. You're an adult, I assume, you should know these things by now. This is basic shopping knowledge.
[EVO 4G General] Freelancerx:
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[EVO 4G General] xweaponx:
I vote for thread closure.

Nothing new/informative has yielded from the banter within...
[EVO 4G General] notoriouspyro:
Just caught up... You are right on the money. This is EXACTLY the situation.

We can exchange or return any phone that was purchased at a corporate store or through telesales because it was part of corporate sprint's inventory. When we pull up an order whether it be from Miami trying to exchange it in Burbank, or Dallas trying to exchange it in New York City, we can see the original price, date and rep that sold the item. However anything that is purchased from a third party company never hits our inventory. As a result the item does not technically exist.

Now taking it to a full service location that does have a service and repair center will allow the device to be REPAIRED only. Even if the device was purchase within it's 30 day time frame, without insurance, even if the device is merrited as needing replacement, it will not be done via corp. Sprint. All devices purchased through Sprint even at a 3rd party retailer do maintain a 1 yr manufactures warranty that for the most part can be taken care of at a S & R center, but without the insurance it does not give you a guarantee that you are getting a replacement device.

Think of it this way. You buy a brand new car from a Honda dealer, 12,000 miles down the line the transmission goes out. The Honda will take care of the situation because it is within their warranty. Now say you bought the EXACT same car from a random lot that has the capability of selling Hondas. If 12,000 miles your tranny goes out, it is not Honda's responsibility to fix your problem. It becomes the responsibility of the lot that you purchased the car from and are bound by whatever agreements were made at that third party lot. You can take it to an authorized Honda dealer to have the work done, but expect to pay.
[EVO 4G General] mrmomoman:
+1 - vote for thread closure too!
[EVO 4G General] Xenithflare:
XD I am rather long-winded, aren't I? Sometimes you just need a great big wall of text to block whatever else is in the thread from coming out XD

+1 for thread closure :)
[EVO 4G General] talentedtenth:
OP,

I can definitely understand where you are coming from however just be patient and wait for stock to come back. It would be nearly impossible for you to get a re-certified one, to my understanding is that the phone just came out so imagine how many re-certified phones there are. I'm not the negative type but I could see if your screen was hanging out or your phone wasn't functional but its the battery cover. If you don't want a refurbish just wait and be patience...If not well...you have to do what you have to do...any-who good-luck in your search
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ekosbravo:
Hi, i've the following problem:

the flashing green led starts at every phone restart.

I've checked, i've any new email or sms or not answered call

How to fix it?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] chrispilot2293:
Hi im coming from winmo on topaz and might be getting LG Ally and want to root could one of you Android DEVs out there root the ally...i have used android via HaRET.exe and i prefer it over winmo and iOS so can someone root for all us Ally users, I know it isnt a high-end power machine but i really want new roms and froyo and all that JAzz...please root...:D
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bamaredwingsfan:
Ask and ye shall recieve:D

There is a forum at android forums called All things root, there is a post in that thread called How to root the LG Ally.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mulletcutter:
Guy at work just got this phone, Visionary will root this phone, i just did it. it loaded superuser and i installed Adfree.

BTW, i think the phone has like 50mb of total memory....horrible.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] GRZLA:
z4root works on the latest build which is ZVC. Any build before that Universal Androot 1.6 does the trick.

WHERE IS OUR ALLY SECTION ON HERE?!?!?!?!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] girlymissjulie:
I can confirm that z4root works on the newest update on LG Ally. Just bought one for my daughter today, applied the latest update and used z4root version 1.3 to root it in about 30 seconds. Had AdFree and Titanium Backup up and running a couple of minutes after that. I did read that it needs to be z4root version 1.3 though for it to be successful on the latest update on Ally.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] kninetimmy:
alright im tired of every one just saying lets go to androidforums iv been with them and well the comunity is a little selfish and both major rom devs (one vanishing mid beta) and one who has kinda disapeared after a 2.2 rom ( we just got it). he is a geat guy and an even beter rom dev but im afraid that he is gone. just a hunch. and well also have onother drelesdi ( i think thats right) i havnt heard much from him he said he had 2.3 ported but he held on to it. said he was waiting for 2.2 for a newr kernal. but we havnt heard anything from him and thos who have spaoken with him have said it wont be released to radio issues which i saw coming( not lik ei knew there would be problems with the radio just i figured there woul dbe some issues) now onto my major point i would like to get a dedicated lg ally section and i want to get a comuniy goin over here too! so devs i can help some im a great tester ill risk my device no prob iv got adb and all that jazz so lets get this train rolling!

-Kninetimmy
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Proz00:
using qemu

i made the iso to do work on 256mb

but i duno which setting i need for the qemu

here a file log

thx

edit :

can i install over here in my pc and move the img to hd2 ?

to save time ?

its must be img file ?

edit 2

i successed to run it

i gonna try install it its gonna take long long time:)

edit 3

its very slow i think i gonna use wes7

cmdline.txt :

-tb-size [what this cmd mean ? ]

16

-emul

\Storage Card\QEMU\emul

emul

-L

.

-m

200

-hda

2.vmdk

i need bios that support windows 7
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] MAMeingast:
Are you trying to tell me you're actually trying to run Windows 7 (not Windows Phone 7) on your HD2!?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Proz00:
yes i gonna update the first post with the cmdline and emul_cmdline

im not sure about the setting i got error

dont worry about it i gonna make it very small around 400mb iso
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Proz00:
hey i tired with another lited windows anyone know what is the problem ?

blue screen 0x000000a5
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] MAMeingast:
"This error occurs whenever windows detect the incompatibility of the Advanced configuration and Power interface (ACPI) with your BIOS."

http://en.kioskea.net/faq/647-stop-0x000000a5-error
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Proz00:
yea i tired to get bios that good for win7 but nothing

anyways its very slow

i will wait for better emul

i also tired to use acpi of vista and asign it to windows 7

but its wont work

cos vista work on qemu
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] hiwiredjuice:
Hi all after testing for about a day i have found a way to get rogers name display to work on the tilt 2. Just had done a lot a searching and combined 2 cabs to get this working.

I have tested this only on the Energy rom and nothing else.

1st you need to install: rilphone for rogers CNAP.cab

then soft reset

2nd you need to install: NRGZ28 Tachi Dialer Disabler.cab

Yes i know you are all saying disabler for tachi but so far this is the only way it will work until someone can implement the settings for stock wm dialer to tachi.

Please Stick this
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Assassin5150:
I tried it on my tilt2 with the cell pro rom it is making my phone run hot and draining the battery fast 10% in about 10 minutes. But it is also making my phone run alot smoother. Uninstalled with no luck still running hot and draining the battery fast. also "attention required" message flashes when I reboot. Time for a hard reset.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] hiwiredjuice:
yes i agree i dont think that would be a problem with the rilphone.dll sounds like the phone is using either the data or phone itself all the time i would say try a hard reset and try this again. if it does the same thing again try a different rom. Im using energy rom i have always had good luck with his roms.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] bteljuice:
Thank you for those great cabs. Will be going back to canada in 2 weeks and will give it a try and report back.

I am using Mighty Mike's rom, do you think it will work?

regular phones with rogers/Fido don't need data. Using this cab, will I have to use data?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] hiwiredjuice:
pretty sure it will work with any rom just try the rilphone.dll first and if it still don't work then install tachi dis-abler and should work. This will only work on GSM models not cdma/gsm so make sure yours is just gsm. And as for data the answer is no it doesn't use any data at all just like a regular rogers/Fido phone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] bteljuice:
Thanks Hiwired.

Is there a way to make it work on CDMA :(

I linked this thread on ppcgeeks, maybe someone could collaborate with your work to see if they can make it work for us WCDMA users. I hope you don't mind.

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=1851465#post1851465
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] hiwiredjuice:
nope i dont mind at all. and as it sits so far right now it will only work on gsm rogers. if you are looking for cdma then right now might look at program called truecallerid but you have to have 3g on in order for you to see it when the call comes in. it does use data as well to. im switchin carriers this week goin to bell so im going to try to mess with this on thier cdma/gsm 3g network
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] bteljuice:
thx man, appreciate it.

any reason why you switching? work reason?

i dont have 3g but planing to get soon
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] bteljuice:
So I see you switched to Bell. Any update for us CDMA people?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] hiwiredjuice:
nope it does not work on bell the only thing that is somewhat working is truecaller but that don't work on all numbers
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] bteljuice:
mmm...

Thought WTH, let me try it on my phone CDMA. didn't work :(

I wish there's a work around for CDMA because I am using it on FIDO
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] hiwiredjuice:
ya as it sits right now bell only has caller number display BUT since they went with the 3g gsm network we might see something come out soon for it they have the proper network now just need the coding
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sbonnick:
A little off topic hiwiredjuice , but what radio are you using with this fix and the energy rom? I'm on the rogers network and I want to find an optimal radio to use. I am using Energy Rom, and i plan on using this fix aswell.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] twiztid907:
hello, i have recently rooted my t-mobile mytouch 3g 1.2 to cyanogenmod 5.0.7. i am not very framiliar witht his yet but i have a few questions. first off, i have noticed that the time in the notification/top bar is missing. im not sure if i did this by mistake or if this is default but how do i get it back? second, it seems as if my battery is a little less efficient than before or maybe the same, hard to tell. are there anyways i can help out my battery? i have it underclocked already, anything else? thank you so much
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] klothius:
This is not dev related, but wth....First of all, go into spare parts and in there set clock color as it's by default set as the taskbar. Second....you can charge your phone to 100%, then boot into recovery and wipe battery stats, reboot and use it like that without charging like you would normaly do until it's depleted (the battery I mean :D). Then charge again to 100% and after that, it's free for you to do whatever you want.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] twiztid907:
sorry if not in right forum im still new here. but thank you very mucch. one more thing. i changed the clock setting in spare parts and exited but still not luck. reboot?