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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] uamis:
GPS No Satelites??

Hello Guys, slowly but surely I'm learning all the ins / outs of this rom.

I am running google maps and not findng any satelites.

I am runnng the .91 radio and not able to get any satelites.

the agps is ON and wndows will control port.

Is anyone else having this problem? and if how did you fix it.

thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chadster214:
aGPS has nothing to do with this ROM. the problem is with ATT. aGPS doesnt' work on 3G. you can try to switch to Edge and connect. aGPS will work on Edge.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] uamis:
.91 or another radio for att.. t get satelite gps to work?

I wonder if I should change the radio.. to the ATT version. Like I said I'm running a .91 right now.. so wondering if this is the problem. of not picking up any satelites. Can anyone tell meif they have had success with gps working on the .91 radio.

Thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dryice1049:
GPS works great for me with the .91 radio.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DeathmonkeyGTX:
Hi era2er, would it be possible for you to cook up a ROM that doesn't have Sense or HTC Messaging, menu enhancements, et cetera? I've been playing with b16b's "WOHC" (without HTC client) 23544 and 23547 ROM's, and upon first boot I have ~120MB free RAM. After I get all my crap installed and SPB Mobile Shell 3.5.3 configured, I boot with 104-107MB free RAM, and 80-102MB free under normal use.

Also, an option to uninstall AT&T Navigator and Marketplace would be greatly appreciated. I have cabs for all the programs, applications, and utilities I use, and I love having 100+MB free RAM; Rhodium screams when one has that much free RAM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] philgt81:
Today was a nice day and we went to the zoo with my son. The zoo is about 30 min from my house. When I got there my phone was in the SOD. I don't know if it is a coincidence, but it does seem that the SOD is related to travel to me. I don't know if the location services are not playing nice for some reason?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] eras2r:
chadster is correct. In order for AGPS to work, the phone must query the cell towers and they will return a CellID along with Lat/Long position. When debugging this I could see that the towers returned their ID but no lat/long position. When I switched to Edge, it worked correctly. I have verified this on the Att radio/rilphone as well as on the ATT Stock ROM and even my old Fuze. So it looks like ATT made some changes to their network because this used to work.

For now the only solution is to flip to Edge when you need to start GPS with a cold boot. Hopefully this will resolve itself in the future.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] epoh:
Interesting... I honestly haven't given GPS a second thought in ages.. everything is set to default on my phone (including aGPS being turned on) and Google Maps picks up around 6-10 satellites usually within 2mins of me loading it up. I'm running the .91 radio. Is that slower than it would be on the Edge network?

ETA: Well.. nevermind. Apparently aGPS has been turned off. But, at any rate... I haven't had issues getting my GPS to lock.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] eras2r:
As I stated this is an "area" thing. It used to work fine by me but now it's dead for 3G. Only works on Edge. However lots of other folks it still works for just fine. It's more of an FYI that if AGPS breaks... give Edge a shot to get your initial signal lock. When I do I lock in <5 seconds from a cold GPS start with HTC GPS Tool.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] crachel:
Just FYI for people not able to triangulate based on CellID: my area quit working on 3G for roughly 3 weeks but it is now back, so maybe other people will have a similar wait
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] eras2r:
Here's to hoping this all has to do with the AT&T 7.2Mbit network upgrade!!!! :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] uamis:
still no gps on .91

I still am not able to get the satelites.. to show up on google maps nor can I get it to pick up on htc gps tool. I've tried with the edge minus edge.. manual settins on com4 and 4800 automatica let windows handle it.. Nothing.

I think it s the radio.. apparently .91 is not able to pick up satelites in my area. Does anyone thing reflashing after using task29 would help the situation. or shoudl I just change radio, but before reflashig the .20 radio can somone help me on please verifyng what exactly all my setting should be?

I've searched the threads and can't find what the "standard/defualt" settings should be . After making so many changes to the settings don't remember what is default anymore.

Thanks again for all your help guys.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Pumpiron579:
Did you get my PM?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] eras2r:
http://xdaforums.com/archive/index.php/t-585200.html

That's a good read on AGPS.

I would simply install that cab then:

soft reset (twice)

then switch to Edge

then launch HTC GPS Tool

set it to cold start

log MNEA data (so you can verify)

open port

AGPS will only grab the cellid on soft reset and setting HTC GPS Tool to Cold Start. Looking for the $GPCELL in the NMEA log verifies that it's working properly.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mskovrinskie:
I found my Tilt2 in the sleep of death this morning after leaving it in the charger all night. The power light stayed green once unplugged.

This is with the 3/31 build and using the AT&T rilphone/radio.

Update: another sod while out driving last night.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DeathmonkeyGTX:
y0', any shot at a Sense-less ROM? I'm loving my 107MB free RAM... I'm really interested to switch out rilphone.dll, as I read something about that it's only changeable in the cooking process. I have no idea which rilphone.dll I have, but it's worked fine with .91 and .77. I'm using .77 now.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ita6:
ATT Rom

Hi:

I am using this Rom and it's fantastic!! I have a HTC Tilt 2 AT&T version, i have some questions:

1- I am in Argentina using Personal carrier, but my phone never conects using 3G, only works in E or H. What Can I do? My carrirer uses 800-1900, the phone has it but it does not use it.

2-Is there any way to configure TTY butom to do another action?

3-I am not using AT&T, is there any way to remove all AT&T programs?

Again the Rom is fantastic!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] eras2r:
1) H stands for HSDPA and it is 3G. It's just an icon. By default ATT uses a 3G icon and not H. If you get an H icon then you are on a 3G network. Strange I thought ATT's 3G bands were only in the US. Tether your phone and do a speedtest to verify.

2) Go to the Manila settings tab. Then Menu->All Settings. Go to Personal->Buttons... from there you can set PTT button & Long Press Send Key.

3) ATT programs are cooked in. You can certainly simply delete the icons via Total Commander in \Windows\Start Menu\Programs\*
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ita6:
Many Thanks!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ita6:
Is possible to add Facebook and Recent Documents in manila for future versions?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ita6:
Last question:

When I am using Internet Explorer Mobile default text is too big, in opera is working fine. Is there any set for this?

Bye
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] eras2r:
This ROM is meant to be as close to stock as possible. So I won't be adding any Manila Mods. If they have it cabbed up you can certainly install it.

In IE options set the text size to smallest. Also, you can zoom out with the zoom bar as well.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] johng75:
S.O.D!!!

ive been using the 03/31 since it came out, and ran task29 before so a fresh install. i also have cookie monsters app installed...

been running the last version for a while, and just updated to the 1.7 version this morning, been running that all day with no issues...

last thing i did before the SOD was send an email u;sing my gmail account, and it had 4-5 small images attached.... i clicked send/receive, pressed the button to go back to home, locked the screen (with the PTT button, i have it mapped to lock the screen using keyboard config) then pressed the power button to turn off the screen. put the phone in my case, it was there for about 30-45 minutes... took it out to make a call and had the SOD, then had to open the back to restart it....

power was around 50%, all other info in sig.

:confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] tysj:
Been using the 2.5 after finally ditching the 2.1 ROM and it's been running great. Adding in Cookie's new 1.70 mod, it's pretty much flawless. Haven't gotten any SOD's although there has been some random reboots when I was trying to adjust phone settings.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] KENYONB:
activesync & Exchange?

is anyone else having issues with Exchange? email/cal/contacts/tasks don't seem to be pushing to my device as they were in the stock AT&T Rom.

anyone else have this problem with Activesync/Exchange?

it only seems to sync manually...

EDIT:

I moved the ActiveSync app out of APps folder and into Start Menu folder.

Exchange seems to be working, but with a 5-10 minute delay.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Memnoch30:
I was installing Pocket Informant on my company's president's phone and while I had his next to mine (both Tilt 2s) I noticed that his phone had 3G w/4 bars while I had Edge w/1-2 bars. I waited for 10 minutes and they stayed the same. I soft-reset both phones and the same thing happened after reboot. I have the stock AT&T radio and I'm running the ATT rilphone as well, has anybody else seen this? I'm about to flash back to stock just to see if it's my phone or what.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] KENYONB:
SOD

less than 12 hours into it i just got the SOD.

I had just used the twitter tab, put it in my pocket, and then next time i looked... SOD.

I have barely had any time to do anything with the phone too. just set up all the tabs in Sense and that was about it.

the GPS in Google Maps was just as quick as with stock ROM, for those of you having GPS issues.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] epoh:
This doesn't shock me. I've seen the same thing with iPhones. One will have full bars, another right next to it might only have one. I have no idea what causes the inconsistencies.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Memnoch30:
GPS is flawless here too, just like stock. I'm in the Chicago area FWIW.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chessboxer:
Very issues here after a couple of weeks of use. Thanks again!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] KENYONB:
Browsers

Why does Opera Mobile quit randomly eventhough I choose to minimize?

Also, why is this version of Pocket IE different than what was on the stock ROM? Stock ROM version of Pcket IE was usable. This starts zoomed all the way in and you always have to zoom out. there should be some sort of reg hack for that... is there?

EDIT: Opera quits on me sometimes immediately after opening. and it rarely stays open in the task manager. anyone else having stability issues with Opera in this ROM?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Linear2202:
Three SOD's today.

I can remember on two of them I had put the phone down, went top turn it on, nothing..arg. I just flashed the 3/31 rom yesterday.

I've got Cooki'es home tab and the advanced home tab installed and that's about it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] KENYONB:
[REQ] AT&T Stock ROM pop-up notifications

any chance of cooking the AT&T stock ROM pop-notifications? they seemed to be more useful, letting you dial phone numbers right from the onscreen pop-up.

or are they available to install via cab? can't find them...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Memnoch30:
Alright, flashed back to stock AT&T ROM and now have much better signal. At home it says 3G 4bars instead of one H bar or 2 Edge. Still doesn't make sense since I'm not flashing radios. Could it just be the ROM is confused? Or maybe the AT&T rom is exaggerating the signal? I'll see if I can do some speed tests.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chadster214:
alright.. here's what it is.. the HTC ROM signal bars are only 4 bars max. and the ATT ROM are 6 bars max. my suggestion is flash to the HTC ROM and then install the ATT signal bar cab located in the first page of this thread. this will give you the 3G symbol instead of the H and it will give you 6 bars instead of 4 bars. I think the max bars are just throwing you off.. there's nothing wrong with the ROM you just need to install the ATT signal bar cab.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chadster214:
eras2r is been running this ROM using exchange sync and he has no problem with it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chadster214:
the sense 2.5 has an autokill feature since the original HTC Sense 2.5 Rhodium release ROM has no taskmanager with it. i suggest killing some of your opened applications before you start running Opera. or run this neat program called "CleanRam" and schedule it to clean every 1 hour or every 3 hours. I have no problems with the Opera shutting down.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] KENYONB:
SOD... I'm SOL!!!

well i decided to re-flash to see if i could cure the Exchange issue. before i did, i ran a task29, flashed, then hard reset. right after i hard reset and had the phone booted up, i got a SOD. i didn't even get the chance ot install anything.

now, within the past 30 minutes i just had 3! the last 2 happened after the phone boot up, i locked it, and then it would wake up. battery was over 50%.

i dont have anything crazy installed on my TP2. the only thing different i installed was the 1% battery cab.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=527006

any clues?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] johng75:
SOD again today... it happed after i was accessing my gmail account again... i was writing a reply email, but this time it was just words, no attach... ended up closing the email and not saving it, locked my phone back up and put it in the case... got it out like an hour later and it was SOD....

just figured it enter this info because i was doing almost the exact same thing, in the exact same area 2 different times, on different days... same results...

its also an area where i get very spotty reception... sometimes it totally loses reception for short times...

as more happens ill add...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] eras2r:
NEW ROMs Posted

New ROMs are posted. Please see posts 1-4 for change log.

I have released two versions... 21901 and 23563. As stated in the first post:

I have decided to release a 6.5.X version of this ROM. All GUI glitches that are fixable have been fixed. Please note that this is beta code, and I am releasing this build "as is". There are going to be bugs that I can not do anything about, so please do not clutter the thread with 6.5.X problems. This is simply a ROM that gives threaded email support and the latest OS from Microsoft. If you do not want to deal with potential bugs then stick with the 21XXX build.

Happy flashing!

-e
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] KENYONB:
updates

I just came on the board to post some updates ot some issues i have been having in case it help anyone...

Exchange:

i flashed to NRG to see if it was the ROM causing my Exchange delay, and his wasn't any faster.

SOD:

so I switched back. so far i have been running for over 24 hours and only one reset and no SOD.

i have CHT installed, latest version, and this is working great.

it must have bee battclock or the 1% battery drivers.

anyone else using them? that is the only thing i can think of.

I hope the latest 21901 build is faster and just as stable. flashing now
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] emd2009:
Man i'd kill to have this 6.5.x rom for CDMA!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] adhusky:
Did the build 21901 fix the search the contacts by the "To:" field on SMS or Email? It does not work until I hit some backspaces back to the first letter.

Did it upgrade Opera Mobile 9 to 10?

Thanks,

Adrian
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] KENYONB:
same Opera.

sms works fine for me. never had any issue with previous version.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Pumpiron579:
Have you tried this ?

Originally Posted by dotcompt

Hi guys,

This only applies to those that have the Standby of Death (SOD):

1. Goto Start/Settings/Personal and tap "Phone" icon

2. Goto the GSM/UMTS Services

3. Tap "Band" and then Get Settings

If you have a 3G band:

Network Type = Change from Auto to WCDMA

GSM/UMTS Band = Change from Auto to UMTS(2100)

If you have a 2G band:

Network Type = Change from Auto to GSM

GSM/UMTS Band = Leave Auto

Soft Reset
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] johng75:
what is this actualy doing?

i now have no signal to the outside world?

what difference should i see?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Pumpiron579:
I have not had a SOD yet with what I am running, but Dotcomp is telling his Rom users to try this....You can read about it here,

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6206248&postcount=2681

Try the GSM(900-1800)+(2100-900), I think that is the AT&T band?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chadster214:
this didn't work for me.. i kills my signal.. LOL
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] eras2r:
ummmm WCDMA???? I am thinking that's it hehe
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] KENYONB:
me neither. so far so good with this ROM. I have a few standalone applications installed and Cookie's latest mod and have all the social networking and stocks and browsers and weather auto-downloading... so far so good.

Anyone using LockScreen? is that working well with this? I'd like to have it lock when it shuts off, but I think I have read somewhere that it doesn't always play nice.

Or can this be accomplished with BSB Tweaks?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chadster214:
i'm using SmartLock 2.0F it works great with this ROM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wpbear:
Where does the opera6.adr go in this ROM? I overwrite the one in Win\Opera9 and Win\Opera9\profiles and still wont see my favorites.

I am having a problem with the People Tab and creating new SMS. I have a favorite setup for message, not phone or email. I touch and the screen goes to a contact screen but is locked, back button will get me out. I tried this to confirm on a clean hard reset.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] uamis:
which version?

Heyguys I want to reflash my rom but wondering which rom.

I understand 6.5 is stabler just wondering what is diferent in 6.5.x other then threading e-mails. Please advise. Not a very heavy user of the "apps" but would like something that works. also is the sense UI added to the 6.5.x build?

One more question.. task29 how do we use.. just run that then flash rom. I'm trying to find a quick how to on the boards but nothing.. as a 1.2.3 method.

Thanks for the help gusy. using the last build of march 31st.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] eras2r:
6.5.X mainly provides threaded email and bigger buttons that are finger friendly (no stylus). The 6.5.X ROM is the same as the 6.5 ROM for most other packages.

As far as task 29 it's easy:

Remove SIM card

Put phone in bootloader mode (vol down + reset)

At tri-color screen plug in usb into computer

Run Task 29 RomUpdateUtility.exe

Phone soft resets and will get stuck

Take out battery

Copy RHODIMG.nbh to the root of your SD card

replace SD card

replace battery

power on

Put phone in bootloader mode and flash ROM

Since you run task29 no need to hard reset after flashing.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] philgt81:
I am using S2U2 and it works really well too. There is a TP2 theme for it and it looks really nice. This will fix your lock when the phone goes to standby.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
Yay! 6.5.x rocks.. ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mskovrinskie:
First, I'm really happy with these ROMs e2. Thanks for you hard work!

I've tried both the 6.5 and 6.5.3 version of this ROM and reverted to using the Windows Default/Sliding Panels homescreen in an effort to free available application RAM. Even after disabling the HTC Dynamic Resource Proxy caching in the registry, I find that I can't run all of my applications at the same time without some of them being closed in the background. Namely, I'm trying to run Email/ActiveSync, Communicator Mobile, SmartRSS GR, Opera, and Kinoma Play. Inevitably, memory trimming is silently killing Communicator in the background and HTC Taks Manager always says I'm in the 80-90% of memory used area.

Which build (6.5 or 6.5.3) will have more free RAM available and are there any other ways with this ROM to address the aggressive memory trimming?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] eras2r:
I've pretty much done everything I can to minimize memory footprint. You can try removing some BootLauncher Services in the reg to see if that helps. Not sure it's gonna gain you much though. It's a Sense 2.5 issue. Hopefully we'll get a better version in future ROMs.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mskovrinskie:
I was having memory issues even with Sense disabled and using Windows Default.

I did disable the bootlauncher and that completely fixed things. It was resetting the HTC cache that I was setting to 0 on every reboot.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Linear2202:
Just curious, but I didn't see an "owner info" section under the previous rom. I have a program that uses this for it's license key...

Is the radio driver for this ATT stock radio the same as the e2 2.1 rom? The reason I ask is that I seem to get different reception in my house with the two different roms, and yes I do switch the radio to the ATT as i have the .20 radio.

Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] eras2r:
For Owner Info, I believe it's Sense 2.5 that causes this. Search the forum on this as I think it's a reg change.

The default RILphone in the ROM is for the HTC .91 radio as stated in post 1. If you are using the ATT 3G signal bars, then there are more bars in that than on the HTC stock ROM. Run FieldTest and look at yer RSSI values.. this will tell you actual reception/signal strength in dbm.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] johng75:
i have the same issue with G-Alarm, but the easy fix i discovered is in the contacts... at the very top of the list there is a 'Me' contact... i entered my first and last name there, saved it and G-Alarm is a happy camper... hopfully your prog will be just as simple...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] epoh:
Oh.. the HTC Messaging program. Why is it so damned slow?!? Every ROM I've run with that on it it takes a good 10-20 seconds to open 'All Messages' and another 10-20 seconds to open a conversation. What is the deal? The Windows Messaging program was always virtually instant.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] The Jack of Clubs:
whyd you do that to the icons...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chadster214:
do you question other chefs too why they change everything in the ROM? why did they change the Sense, Fonts, Colors???? DUDE! just appreciate what he made for us!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] gmanunited:
Please do not change the taskbar. Keep it original. This is one reason why I do not like some of the other roms even EnergyRoms....