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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Spiogent:
Hi Eric,

thank you so much for your great looking new Beta!

I have used the "old" Beta for nearly two months on my HTC HD2 and i loved this App very much.

Yesterday i downloaded your .4-Version and tried it last night. Here my experiences, issues and Questions.

When you start first time, a licencetext comes. This window is not scrollable at the HD2. So i can't read all.

When i use the "Easy" Menue, i have only the choice of an Alarm. In the "Advanced" Menue i can choose an Alarm and an Wake Up. Both with theyr own sounds, vibrations, pictures and so on. What is the difference? It should be explained in the programm (maybe a tooltip?).

Also some other functions are not selfexplaining (I hope, this word exists. Sorry for my bad english). For example, how works the Snooze, what is the Pic up Timeout, the Vibrate LedNo, how to set the Sensor Adjustmemt or the Power Usage and some more.

It would be nice, if the chart graphic would be bigger (fit the screensize). At a 800x480 display it looks really small.

With the old Beta, when i woke up in the night, i could see the current graph of my sleep movings. Would you implement this nice feature again into the "sleepscreen" please?

When i woke up this morning, it was due the Alarm-Sound. Not the Wake up-Sound. I was unable to deactivate the alarm. After every Stop the screen went black and after 3 secounds the Alarm started again. After some trys i did a softreset but after the restart the Alarm started again. I stopped the application with the taskmanager and did a new softreset. But the Alarm came again after the restart. So i stopped it again due the TM and uninstalled the app.

Tonigt i try your new .5 Beta and can say you the result tomorrow.

Thats all my Thougts at the Moment.

Thank you agaim for your energy, time and motivation! This app goes to be a real SuperApp!

Many greetings

Hardy
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wardh:
Just grab the tiny scrollbar at the top right side of the screen. ;)

Haven't tried the app yet but it looks good!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] vmollz:
please upload in site :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
Can you not download it?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sprinttouch666:
I cant download it. :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MelwayMan:
Thankyou

Thanks to ajhvdb.

Love the new interface, have been using this app since Feb and love it.

Tim
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hhenk:
I had the same problem with the new 0.5 beta this morning on my HTC HD2. Only way to sto the alarm was to uninstall the app. Are there still any logs on my phone i can send you even though i uninstalled? If Yes, then where can i find them?

Anyhow the app looks great and very promising.

Nice work!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
For the howto, please look to the first posts in this topics. Do you some kind of screen saver enabled. Could you disable this and set an alarm for over 15 minutes to try out?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
Could you explain a bit why not? others can? Send me some screenshots what you see..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tommy1994:
so is cookie hone tab lock screen is an screensaver?will it work on this app?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
Don't see why not.! SleepSense is pushing the screen to on, and maybe other programs don't like it. I just need to know what is happening.

Please turn the phone normally around, or shake the phone. This should set it to snooze for 2 minutes and gives you time to ...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ioneng:
thanks for this great app. Just want to know why the process is still running after exit the program. does that mean it can start automatically every night?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] joplayer:
Great concept, will give it a try

Comparing sleep datas must be a long work for you.

Thanks a lot ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] fazi78:
Do you have Polish translator ? :D

Need any volunteers :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
Yes please.. but first I need to have all the text ready. After this I will send a request for transvolunteers :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] fazi78:
ok so i'm ready for polish translation ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] janneman22:
I would do the Dutch translation:rolleyes:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DoktornHD2:
Thanks

Looks like a great app. I've just downloaded it and will try it out.. =)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Spiogent:
My results

Hello ajhvdb.

First of all: This is a very very very nice, handy and helpfull application! I love it and want never again live without it.

Now, after one month daily testing i want to tell you my results:

One bug, that i detected, is the difference in the chart-dates.

Example: If you go to sleep at Monday Morning at 1:00 an the Alarm sounds at 7:00 and you check your chart, you will see the date of Sunday at the Top-Title. But if you push the button for the Chart-List (Arrow Up), you get the correct date of Monday.

Another bug: Sometimes, when i update to a newer progam-version and keep the old datas, the chart-viewer hides some days. When i look into the my dokuments\sleepsense\-folder, all charts are inside. But the chartview does not show it to me.

My wishes:

The "Test"-Sound is very loud and funky. Do you remember the testnoise in the old Beta-Version from February? It was like a growl and if you moved the device, it got louder. That sound fitted much better. ;)

The License-Screen is still without borders and scrollbar at HTC HD2 devices.

I know, you will see it only one time at all, but this is "the first impression", you know?

An option to activate the airplane-mode during the sleep should be implemented. I think, this a very important criterion for many people when they sleep with their phone under the head.

I installed your program to the SD-Card and it runs very well. The only thing that disturbs me, is, that all charts and logfiles will be saved to the device-memory. After a while it adds up to a large data.

It should be saved also to the SD-Card or the user should have the choice where he want to save it.

The Theme-settings, Wakeup-, and Alarmsounds and -images should move to the settings-tab. It confuses me every time, that some settings are under the settings-tab and some are under the alarm-tab. Settings should be settings.

The Default-Alarm-sounds are very loud and violently. I think, the Wakeup-sounds should be available also as Alarm-sounds as default.

So, thats my thoughts for the moment.

By the way..., when you need a Translator for the German Language, i would offer myself. My german is much much better, than my english. ;)

Greetings and a good sleeping :)

Hardy
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
First of all thanks for the feedback. I can't implement all you want but I'd like to give you more info.

Q.

Example: If you go to sleep at Monday Morning at 1:00 an the Alarm sounds at 7:00 and you check your chart, you will see the date of Sunday at the Top-Title. But if you push the button for the Chart-List (Arrow Up), you get the correct date of Monday.

A.

This is the way it should work.

The filename of the xml and chart is is created using the AlarmDate and Time. This is also what you see in the list.

The day in the header of the chart is calculate using a field in the advanced settings: FromStartToPreviousDayInHours = -4,

Q.

Sometimes, when i update to a newer progam-version and keep the old datas, the chart-viewer hides some days. When i look into the my dokuments\sleepsense\-folder, all charts are inside. But the chartview does not show it to me.

A.

Again this is how it should work. Maybe I will change it later on. But when you start an alarm twice for the same day. The previous xml is deleted first to store new data. The png does not have to be deleted because the alarm can be cancelled and then you still have the png.

The view screen shows only charts for which a xml file exists.

Q.

The "Test"-Sound is very loud and funky. Do you remember the testnoise in the old Beta-Version from February? It was like a growl and if you moved the device, it got louder. That sound fitted much better. ;)

A.

Got a nasty email that is was copyright material..

Q.

The License-Screen is still without borders and scrollbar at HTC HD2 devices.

I know, you will see it only one time at all, but this is "the first impression", you know?

A.

It's a problem in .NET 3.5 which is solved in newer devices. If you know a solution let me know. After 8 seconds of reading the page..the page starts scrolling.

Q.

An option to activate the airplane-mode during the sleep should be implemented. I think, this a very important criterion for many people when they sleep with their phone under the head.

A.

It''s on the todo list but noone can provide with a c# example. BTW it will take a few seconds to put your phone of and on.

Q.

I installed your program to the SD-Card and it runs very well. The only thing that disturbs me, is, that all charts and logfiles will be saved to the device-memory. After a while it adds up to a large data.

It should be saved also to the SD-Card or the user should have the choice where he want to save it.

A.

Not exactly what you want but you can change the My Documents location to your SD-card. But noted.

Q.

The Theme-settings, Wakeup-, and Alarmsounds and -images should move to the settings-tab. It confuses me every time, that some settings are under the settings-tab and some are under the alarm-tab. Settings should be settings.

A.

No, sorry, I want a different sound and picture depending on the alarm I choose and at this moment it's the best location. In the WP7 version it's much easier to change the UI.

Q.

The Default-Alarm-sounds are very loud and violently. I think, the Wakeup-sounds should be available also as Alarm-sounds as default.

A.

Noted...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] roccobass:
"The Default-Alarm-sounds are very loud and violently. I think, the Wakeup-sounds should be available also as Alarm-sounds as default."

If you copy the Program Files\SleepSense\Sounds\WakeUp files to the Program Files\SleepSense\Sounds\Alarm folder you will then see them on the list. That's what I've been doing because I agree with you the Alarm sounds are a bit too much.

hth-

Roccobass
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Spiogent:
Yes, i did this many times because i had to do this procedure after every new update again. :D

That is the reason, why i asked for the availability of this sounds by default without copying by hand.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Spiogent:
Hi Eric,

thanks for your anwers.

Ah, ok. Good to know. Then i can change this value for myself.

Would you give us an explaining-list of all the Variables, that we can change in the advanced settings, please?

Hmm, ****.

A friend of mine is a musician. I could ask him, if he could make a similar, but a bit different soundfile for you. Then the copyright would be yours.

Sorry, i'm not a programmer. Maybe any other developer here, who can help?

Yes, that makes sense.

Thanks :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DamienDrash:
Hey,

mein englisch ist zwar nicht so schlecht, aber meine Frau hat da einige Probleme. Leider komm ich zeitlich nicht dazu alles zu übersetzen. Ich habe schon einiges übersetzen können, jedoch konnte ich es nicht beenden, da die Arbeit wieder gerufen hat.

Es wäre echt cool wenn du das Proggi übersetzen könntest und es uploadest.

Bye Damien
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tiny17:
Downloaded - Excited to try this out! Thanks.

Is there a way or plan to allow my own audio files? I have a song that gently gets louder - very calming to wake-up to.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
You can copy the files to ..\SleepSense\Sounds\... or if you have a "My Pictures" or "My Ringtones" folder you can choose files from those folders too while selecting a background or sound files.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
BTW:

If your wakeup sound plays, you can only say stop. You can't snooze in the wakeup period.

So the snooze is only for extending the alarm time.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tiny17:
Thanks! I was able to add the sound I wanted. I also found a bunch more sounds availible when I changed the interface to advanced. Also I like that I was able to turn up the sensitivity.

One thing I'm not finding is a way to adjust the window size from like 30 minutes to something like 15 minutes. Is there a simple line of code I can change for this? Otherwise, I guess I could set my alarm 15 minutes later and roll with that.

Very cool app.

Thanks!

Also, will you be accepting donations via paypal at any point? Next time I have money in my Paypal I would like to throw a few dollars your way.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Clibus:
Thanks for this amazing program!

Ive been using it for about 3 weeks on my Leo and its working perfect

Only thing i miss is lower sensetivity settings as standard (takes me 1min to change it myself in the advanced setting but still)

A BIG snooze button when the alarm goes of would be nice aswell

Thats all i can come up with atm that's not been mentioned yet

Tell me if you need more logfiles! :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tiny17:
Isn't the idea of this that there is no need to snooze. You should be energized and wanting to get out of bed when this goes off.

Although, I'm not sure how to disarm it correctly. I shake it and it stops, but I don't know how to tell it to stop keeping track and to stop officially.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Eurofatzke:
Great Work!

I am testing fo 2 days now and this really seems to work. I Just had not the luck to have a REM phase in the 30 min period for the prog. to wake me earlier... But this brings me to a suggestion:

What about a "Nap Mode"?. This would be an option where no alarmtime is set, but only the number of sleepcycles so that you awake relly refreshed from your nap... 1 cycle would be around 90 min then...

Greetings

Eurofatzke
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Clibus:
From what i have experienced sleepsense does not wake me up gently every single day thats becouse im in deep sleep during the "Phase time".

The shake to snooze function works perfect, only problem is that it is way to easy to fall asleep again without even checking what time it is! That is why i want a big button assigned to this :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] roccobass:
Clibus,

You can disable the Snooze With Movement functionality through the advanced Settings page. Then you'll have to use Menu > Snooze > [# of minutes] to set it. That should wake you up a bit more than just shaking it.

hth-

Roccobass
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nq250:
I tried SleepSense on Acer S200 and had some problems

During the night this application have conflict with windows and stop running.

After this then later I opened application alarm started to rings and I could not to stop this? only reinstallation helped/

I sent the log file via e-mail.

Thanks for good application and your works on this
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
I've received your log but not the correct one. Could you check the first two post for the steps to send the log. Thx.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
Use the >Menu>Stop to quit the alarm.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nq250:
Now, I sent right one
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
Sorry, I can't reproduce your problem and your logfiles don't show any errors. You will have to wait until someone else has the same problem or has more info.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] J4v1:
wow, nap mode... great idea!

I agree with Eurofatzke. A "nap mode" would make this a "must have application". I don't know any application that have this feature.

I think is a very good idea, and very usefull.

Perhaps in a new version... perhaps new stand alone application??

Come on Eric, you can!! :-)

Btw, your application is every day better. Congratulations. I will send you a language.xml file translated to spanish soon. After a little test.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Merlin260880:
Hi ajhvdb,

I want to support you again, but excuse me 'cos I havn't read posts before but I'm during my final exam so time is less. And sorry for my bad english. Log files only present for posts when date is included.

Device: HD2

ROM: last original O2 Germany

Radio-Rom: Since 15.07.2010 -> 2.12.50.02_2

Sleep Sense: 100703EB-SleepSense-V0.65-Beta

BUG

<B1> When using G-Sensor Sensitivity like "5-6" or sometimes bigger values I recognized without moving in Bed,that Sensor recognize movement. Tested in Test Mode

<B2> Sleeping 2 times a day, but see only last sleep cycle not both.

e.g. Sleep first day 22-6h and on second day 16-18 and from 23h until third day. Always choose " add to chart" when asked the second time. LOG On second day 08.07.2010 -> DAMN recognized that chart is missing.

<B3> LOG 2010-07-16_0704 (Date_Time)

Device use SleepSense > Power on Device > SleepSense "Stop>View>Zoom>Previous" !! empty chart will be displayed.

Workauround: SleepSense "Home>View>Previous" <-- work

<B4> SleepSense didn't recognize Snooze via turnaround device. I've to repeat turn around device more than once to use Snooze.

<B5> like <B3>

LOG 2010-07-08_2240-2250

Load Sensor chart -> is not displayed, no loading.

Workaround: Home>Chart <-- chart will be displayed.

QUESTION:

<Q1> I used SleepSense via Home>Start>insert time

!!! Snooze via turnaround not working.

<Q2> LOG 2010-07-15

turn around device ->freeze SleepSense

Reasons: Same time other application access same .mp3 file or other app (SPB Time) run same time.

FUTURE

<F1> I changed with expert mode my G-Sensor Sensitivity to "07" 'cos before it didn't work on my sleeping couch. Maybe support this too?

<F2> A field would be nice, which displays counter time until SleepSense time.

e.g.: Wakeuptime = 7h in morning ; actual time is 0h --> then this field displays 7h (left time)

<F3> fixed Timer e.g. im 5 minutes delay change to adjustable e.g. via scroll for each digit from 0 to 9.

<F4> When install SleepSense on SD-card, all SW, charts and log files should be there to -> not on Device ROM.

I got a lot of Problems with less RAM messages, until I recognized that SleepSense use internal RAM of Device.

<F5> Info text under chart missing, what is displayed right now (e.g. Sensor,..)

I will send you the Log via Mail.

After I finish my final exam, I will test more and note day and time, sorry again for only reporting,maybe other could have a look on it and send you log files too.

Cheers Merlin
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
Q.

When using G-Sensor Sensitivity like "5-6" or sometimes bigger values I recognized without moving in Bed,that Sensor recognize movement. Tested in Test Mode

A.

The sensor is registering movement and SleepSense is asking for movement changes. SleepSense is only the messenger. If I lay down my own Samsung Omnia II on my table. After a few seconds it registers movement (not true) but after this my sensor is correct.

Q.

Sleeping 2 times a day, but see only last sleep cycle not both.

e.g. Sleep first day 22-6h and on second day 16-18 and from 23h until third day. Always choose " add to chart" when asked the second time. LOG On second day 08.07.2010 -> DAMN recognized that chart is missing.

A.

Yes, the chart is saved with the alarmdate. So if you set an alarm twice on the same day, the last chart is current.

Q.

Device use SleepSense > Power on Device > SleepSense "Stop>View>Zoom>Previous" !! empty chart will be displayed.

A.

If you move/drag your finger over the empty chart it should refresh the screen. Could you check this?

A.

I will look into your other remarks when getting back from vacation and will email you for a little bit more info.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] venomshot629:
I will give this app a try again, I think the last version I had was v5 beta? It is very interesting, and I dont know how it works, but the patterns definitely reflected how much rest I felt I had that previous night.

How does it know when we are deep sleep vs dreaming vs light sleep??? Is there somewhere I can read up on this? :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cityhunterx:
Any news on a new build? Mines now expired.

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] denazi:
me too.....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Marcus_de_zwarte:
i have downloaded the latest beta, worked one night.

now it says it is expiered.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ezzie:
mine also expired and it says to go to website and download most recent but i can't find a more recent one to down load....can you please provide?

thank you

ezzie
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Dtrieb:
If you look in the first post you see:

Note:

Beta versions will have all features active but will timeout after 10 days.

So wait if a new version come out! The author of this programm is at vacation.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bbutyn:
settings export

Hello.

Is there any way to export settings and alarms that I could import them after hard reset? In klaxon for example everything was holded in registry, so there was no problem, but in SleepSense I couldn't find anything.

PS

Is there any way to reactivate SleepSense until the author will come back from vacation? I'm missing that soft. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] adis1987:
I havent even used mine for 16 days and today it did expire. So it have to be a "best before date" in the beta.

The software worked realy good!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] trueHOUSE:
installed,started,expired.. too bad i couldn't even test it :confused:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lonely2k5:
just change the clock back 1 year and it works...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aviationsteve:
Read the whole thread, downloaded and installed (sd-card and internal memory) the beta-cab. works so far, but when i start the software i get first the expire-mesage - and when i click "ok", there's an error stating

"Report: TypeLoadException". (app closes with click on ok!)

What am I doing wrong? Any ideas?

v0.650-beta (build 3836)

HTC HD2

Thanks!

Cheers,

Steve
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] RedDevils88:
i cant run it. it says Report: TypeLoadException and nothing happens.. what is the problem?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
Good to see that I'm not alone with that. Such a short test isn't very useful... Does anybody know an alternative to Sleepsense? Or did you compare it with Sleep Cycle (I-Phone)?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] loader187:
I was getting the same error message as you guys but than i changed my date to 1 year ago and it worked. Props for this goes too lonely2k5
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] edved:
I've installed the latest and still get the expiration notice!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Metastable:
Same problem, same phone =(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] datakneus:
Same problem, different phone. I'm using a HTC Touch Pro 2 (Rhodium)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ezzie:
I believe that someone mentioned that the developer is on vacation. I'm sure he will have a solution for us when he returns, so please be patient.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lrsthmp:
Great App, but...

... can't get it (0.650-Beta Build 3836) running on my HTC HD2.

After the first notice, that the software will expire after 16 days, I get another pop-up window with the yellow warning triangle stating: "Report: TypeLoadException". When I "ok" out of that window I see the SleepSense logo and then the app exits.

I have tried reinstalling, but no luck.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CtDMonet:
Test Period

I installed the app a few days ago (7/15/10) and tried it for 3 days (didn't have a chance the first day). Last night when starting it it said I had reached the 16 day trial period (yesterday would have been 4-5 days from when I installed it, not 16), and wouldn't work. I just looked, and it is the same version (V065), so I'm assuming that reinstalling it will do no good. It seemed to be working great, and I'd like to experiment some more.

-Al
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cityhunterx:
Its 16 days from from the last release not a 16 day trial
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
Hi,

I thought the last cab lasted for 17 days (my vacation time)but will update a new one tomorrow.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
does not work on my TD2. It says the app expired 16 days ago.