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[Palm Treo Pro] trickbiker121:
just remember before your first flash Do hardSPL
[myTouch 3G Slide Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ImABoss:
Does anyone know when I'm trying to Flash the Eng-Release to the Slide why on step 6 I get permission denied or cdmod not found?
[myTouch 3G Slide Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] khtims:
I don't know specifically to this but yesterday while I was rooting I had that happen. I was pushing some files through adb and told me no permissions. I did reboot on phone and computer and it worked the next time. Weird. You may have already tried that but that's all I got and like I said it was not for this specific step. mine was during the root process.
[myTouch 3G Slide Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ImABoss:
Yea I already have root and superuser working so I don't know what's wrong.
[myTouch 3G Slide Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] falken98:
If you are actually typing "cdmod" that is why, the command is "chmod".
[myTouch 3G Slide Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ImABoss:
Wow thanks for pointing that out. I can't believe I was typing it wrong.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jacsonmoore3:
READ YOUR HOMEWORK PEOPLE http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/06...kers-with-legal-action-for-distributing-roms/
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] XBrav:
Actually, if you read that article, they are getting nailed because they're hosting files that are owned by HTC. Any cooked ROMs on this site are exempt from this rule, as they are compiled from the source provided by Google.

Honestly though, the letter does not mean much, as HTC merely wants exclusive distribution rights.

Sadly, his site doesn't even have any G1 / Dream roms.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lbcoder:
They can actually get android "roms" for HARDWARE DRIVERS. But I don't think they're worried at all about android roms. More likely, MS sent HTC an order to do something about this or they'll sue for billions.
[G1 General] jacsonmoore3:
READ YOUR HOMEWORK PEOPLE http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/06...kers-with-legal-action-for-distributing-roms/
[G1 General] thatguythatdid:
I guess I know what i'll be downloading all day till I got work
[G1 General] AdrianK:
That's for Windows Mobile.

hTC can't stop anyone distributing AOSP ROMs, but they could throw the hammer down on distributing their Sense ROMS.
[G1 General] wcdisciple:
Because of all that nonsense (no pun intended :D), I've commited myself to getting this. :eek: :D :cool: I'll be more than satisfied.
[G1 General] hudl:
Man, i think you're not getting tired of emphasise how good apple is. Please don't take it offensive, but why are you in this forum if you will buy / have bought an iPhone?

HTC is only one company of many building phones with Android. Whether you like Sense or not is your decision. G1 and MT3G (with google) were never intended to run with Sense. And no one can sue us for using AOSP ROM's. So i have no problem with it compared to apple, who will preselect the software for you...

Jailbreaking the iPhone isn't legal by the way... ;)

PS: don't want to start an Apple/Android war, but leaving one company suing others for another company suing people since years and taking it for the reason why, seems a bit curious to me...
[G1 General] r3s-rt:
He's been on a rampage with it.

On a better note: I don't think this will stop ROM development. Didn't xda go through the same thing, but HTC didn't care about the actual developed ROMs?

Edit: Can't find anything to support that. :/ Remember reading it somewhere - might have been bs, but I swear it was on xda news. :P
[G1 General] legend221:
HTC threatens handset hackers with legal action - WORST MISTAKE EVER

HTC is seriously making a mistake with that one.

Ive only been satisfied with my purchase of anything they have come with AFTER flashing a Rom into it.

If this continues I promise you they will regret it.

They will lose customers that WILL choose to go to other manufacturers.

The Devs and all who create on a constant basis are not hackers.

They innovate to make HTC a better phone than the competitors because of the work that are done by these fine people.
[G1 General] r3s-rt:
But they didn't take it down because of them being custom ROMs. They were all just the basic stock ROMs that came with the phone. Honestly, there's not much of a difference as both custom and stock contain IP. However, I think they would've taken down xda a long time ago if they were worried about custom ROMs.
[G1 General] legend221:
There is a HUGE difference between stock and Custom Rom, anyone that has ever flashed a Rom will tell you this.

A similar C&D almost stopped the progression of a certain legendary Dev on the android scene.

Luckily, there was a workaround and everyone was happy flashing and seeing for themselves how much better our phones have been on a customized, fast and stable Rom.
[G1 General] r3s-rt:
Are you serious? So you're telling me all HTC widgets involved in a sense ROM aren't IP? Or Google Apps included in most ROMs aren't IP? Google Maps? Market? Anything? That's actually pretty funny. No THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE between a stock ROM and a custom ROM on the IP subject with the exception of JUST a few. Like.... 2 or 3? Do you even know what intellectual property is?

And no, the similar C&D did NOT almost stop ROM development. If that was the case, NO ROM would come with Google Apps included. However, they DO, and are they are NOT getting C&Ds. If you think Google isn't looking at XDA to see what's happening, you need to start thinking a bit more.

Edit: Also, not every ROM is based off of cyanogen. While there are A LOT that are, not ALL are.
[G1 General] legend221:
Not everyone even cares about widgets. I only use the calendar one for example. Widgets are not the issue, we are talking about Roms overall because if HTC starts implementing a stricter enforcement of people not having the ability to use or host the Rom of their choice and preventing Devs to freely distribute their work then we are all held mercy to whatever HTC has pre-installed from the factory. A major FAIL for them.

Google knows its in their best interest to keep letting everyone that wants to flash a custom Rom. Some people buy specific phones (the past phones of mine as well) only if they are rooted or can install a custom SPL and flash their flavor of a Rom. The Cyanogen reference was an example not for every case, we are aware of the Windows Mobile, etc sections of xda.
[G1 General] r3s-rt:
You're not continuing what you originally said. You said there's a huge difference between a custom ROM and a stock ROM. Now, this statement should have been based on IP terms, as this is clearly what the topic is supposed to be about. My point is that IP is still included in any ROM. It doesn't matter what you use - that is completely irrelevant to the subject matter. They clearly are not enforcing all little bits of IP. If that was the case, as I've said multiple times, xda wouldn't be here right now. HTC is WELL AWARE along with Microsoft and Google of what goes on here. I promise you they pay once lucky bastard to sit here and probe this site, along with others, all day everyday and flag anything they see unfit. The main thing they seem to not like is ROM libraries. That's just from my experience.

To sum this up" We are NOT at mercy of what is pre-installed from factory or they would have sent out much more C&D letters much sooner than this. XDA has over 2 MILLION users. That's all I'm saying.

Best interest? Are you serious, bro? Android is marketed as an open-source platform. That's not in their "best interest." It's in their intents! The unrootable is because of cell phone carriers! Guess what?! The Dream came out as a Development phone! The Google ION (more commonly the myTouch 3g)? Development phone! The cyanogenmod reference was taken for what it was - an C&D from GOOGLE! NOT HTC!
[G1 General] legend221:
Thanks for giving that one guy the heads up on what goes on and what doesnt go on around here if he indeed does exist. If theres anything we dont need is anyone giving them more fuel to thier fire.

No one said the C&D came from HTC, seeing as you are a reader on xda I knew I didnt have to explain this to you. hahaha. It is in Google's best interest to let the Devs continue thier greatness because guess what many would jump ship to Windows Mobile devices or other OS including the iPhone even though there are not Roms for it I believe. If Android Development was not allowed to continue, at least most people would stop buying Android powered phones I believe.

Yawn........ time for bed now.
[G1 General] Binary100100:
Why are you all under the assumption that the majority of HTC sales all run off of custom firmware? Do you really believe that sales are going to be effected that much because of HTC's decision?
[G1 General] r3s-rt:
Did you even read the article? If you are referring to the one cyanogen got, I never said it did. Seeing as you are just a reader (not) I didn't have to explain this to you. But I did. Please, if you're going to try and get a point across, respect me enough to actually read what I said.

I had to edit this is. Really? Have you been snorting cocaine or something? That's pretty damn paranoid. If you don't think that happens, you just need to get off the internet as that's just basic knowledge. If you were HTC, would you not watch us? If you wouldn't - stay out of sales forever.

I'm not under that assumption; I take you include me in the all. I just stated that at least this won't affect custom ROMs and he went on about how custom ROMs are so different and don't contain IP. That's what I've been trying to get across in all my posts. :P And no, I don't think their sales will be affected .
[G1 General] legend221:
You're still on what I said?

Get over it and realize not everyone is going to agree with you or your thoughts.

The one on drugs is YOU, damn get out of the forums and do something else with your time man. hahaha

That's why its a forum and NOT your personal website.
[G1 General] r3s-rt:
Any one with intelligence will tell you that 90% of custom ROMs contain IP. The fact that you are swearing up and down that they don't is just.... stupid.
[G1 General] lbcoder:
The fact of the matter is that without proprietary IP, you can't even start the thing up. There is more IP than just widgets, launchers, and apps... there are DRIVERS and other such buried nonsense.

SOME of this IP *IS* distributed, have a look at developer.htc.com -- HTC eventually relented and opened their kernel modifications since they were committing a GPL violation, but there is other stuff on that page that is being distributed that IS proprietary IP, specifically, the "HTC Proprietary Binaries for ADP1". And those binaries don't even include all the proprietary binaries needed to make full use of the phone, such as the GPU drivers and the video decoder drivers.

THANKFULLY, the phone's owner IS licensed to use all of those binaries, so they can just keep them. Note that they're also included in the FULL SYSTEM IMAGES that HTC ITSELF distributed from developer.htc.com.

*** and that is a HUGE DIFFERENCE between the android platform and wimo.... the fact that HTC distributes ***all*** of the proprietary binaries straight from their website. It means that it ***IS*** possible to generate fully AOSP (but non-functional) system images, and the USER can combine them with the binaries provided by HTC to make a working system.

From what I've seen, HTC REALLY DOESN'T CARE and/or actually WANTS users to build custom roms for their phones. They send out the cease and desist order for distribution of wimo roms, PROBABLY in accordance with MS's demands. MS probably said to them -- "listen, you either try to put a lid on piracy or we're going to stop sending you MSTRASH." HTC distributes GOOGLE apps in the roms on their website because THAT'S WHAT GOOGLE WANTS.
[G1 General] r3s-rt:
1. Didn't even think about all that.

2. That's exactly what I thought. Microsoft is so scared of a lonely developer doing better than what their out-the-ass payed developers do. Honestly, why would the manufacturer of the phone give a damn what you do with it when you buy it? No matter what way you look at it: their task is to sell the phones they manufacture.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] luffyp:
Hi. I was wondering if there is any program that does the following: When you click on a shortcut it will pop up the new message user interfece with the "To" box prefilled by some number(s) and the msg box also prefilled by some text (see the attached picture) and the cursor is after that text. So you may add additional text if you want before you press send. The predefined numbers and msg are obviously configurable.

One example of the use is that, say you send a twitter direct msg to someone regularly using an sms service (not a twitter app which requires internet). Then you can prefilled the "To" box with the twitter number and the msg box with "D username ". So you can add the msg you want after D username and press send. (I often forgot to write "D username" which results in my msg sent to all my followers, LOL)

I did some search and found some apps like GroupSMS, PowerSMS. But none of these does what I just described. Some have a schedule SMS feature which you can send a specific msg to specific number(s) at a specific time, but I want to have some control (e.g. adding more msg) before I send it.

Thanks and sorry for the long explanation :)
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] XBrav:
I thought I'd start this thread to answer a few questions regarding the 911 update put out by Rogers, as there is a lot of confusion in this section, and the development section may be too technical.

Q) Can I currently root my phone?

A) Yes, but not easily. It involves making some cables, buying a JTAG adapter, and doing a lot of stuff. Since it involves opening your phone, and attaching cables to the board, I'd advise those who do not feel confident doing this to avoid it.

Q) Why can't we root easily?

A) HTC really made it difficult in this update. Prior to the 911 update, there was a flaw in the linux kernel 2.6.27 that, when exploited, created a superuser session, allowing the user to flash whatever they wanted. Although the 911 update contained the same kernel, this exploit was patched. As of this moment, there are no other vulnerabilities that have been discovered.

As for the regular methods of flashing, HTC placed numerous checks throughout their firmware, preventing a user from installing any firmware that:

a) Is older than the current one

b) Is not built by HTC

c) Is not made for the specific model phone

Currently, the only way to bypass these security checks is via the JTAG model.

Any discussion of this firmware should stay in this thread. I'll try and answer any questions you may have.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Importspeed:
I guess it would be good to know who is able to perform the JTAG.

Or is the only person EZterry?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lbcoder:
The information is ALL in the jtag thread. No special trade secrets. Anyone who is not RETARDED can read, understand, and implement the entire process.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Importspeed:
I've read the JTAG thread, I comprehend it, I don't have the tools to perform it and I would prefer someone with experience JTAGing to do it. It was just a simple question. No need to get all worked up about it buddy.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MatinatorX:
I believe ezterry is located in Toronto. If you're not confident doing the JTAG method and your located within a reasonable distance of him, contact him through PM and ask him if he can JTAG your phone for a fee.

I believe he charges around $35 and you also pay for shipping, presuming he has the time and is willing to do the JTAG for you. This method seams easiest to me and is cheaper than buying the JTAG hardware anyways, as long as you can go without your Dream for a while.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Importspeed:
Yeah, I've contacted ezterry already. I'm pretty sure he is busy so I'd just like to see if there are other people that is able to perform this. I can live without the phone for awhile as I have a backup.

I guess I will just wait and hope ezterry will respond back to me and is willing to do this for me. I'm crossing my fingers. :D

Thanks for the help though.
[HD2 General] stevedebi:
I am currently using a T-Mobile TP2. I'm considering upgrading to the HD2.

Anyone out there who has had the TP2 and upgraded, can you provide me with your opinion?
[HD2 General] mcspikesky:
I'd say do it. I had the Touch Pro originally, loved it. Got the Touch Pro2, brilliant. Upgraded to the HD2, AWESOME. It's definitely worth doing but you REALLY REALLY will miss the keyboard and the tilt. The speed is ridiculously better, screen quality is way better. The capacitive screen will take a bit of getting used to but once you have had it for a couple of weeks you'll feel right at home.

Although I cannot stress enough how much you'll miss the keyboard.
[HD2 General] stevedebi:
I'm not sure - the HD2 doesn't have a stylus, correct? I'm not sure I can live with that... LOL.

EDIT: Plus, I have to talk the wife into allowing me to spend the $$.
[HD2 General] crispy514:
i don't miss the stylus.. screen is big enough that its easy to type and pinch to zoom is useful... question is do you use the keyboard?
[HD2 General] stevedebi:
Actually, I use the keyboard only to select text. There seems to be no easy way to select text on the HD2 soft keyboard. Otherwise I actually generally use the soft keyboard.

Can you cut and paste from one document to another on the HD2, for example?
[HD2 General] Dexter_Morgan:
if you text a lot or use speaker phone tp2 rules, otherwise hd2 is better in every way. typing on hd2 jittery screen is a pain.
[HD2 General] ASCIIker:
i've been using my HD2 for the past 3 weeks, coming from a kaiser (tytn2). and i can't stress enough how much i miss the hardware keyboard!

i have briefly used excel on the kaiser and i had to recently use excel on the HD2...with the kaiser's hardware keyboard that doesn't take up any screen space and hardware D-Pad, even the smaller QVGA kaiser screen was enough to give a pleasant user experience. but with the HD2, its...just...not...the...same!!! screen is big, but onscreen keyboard in portrait is not nearly as easy to use as a hardware keyboard. and the landscape keyboard is much easier to use but leaves little room for much else on the screen, especially in programs like excel.

still, the HD2 is an incredible device and i'd highly recommend it!
[HD2 General] stevedebi:
Have you tried the SPB Keyboard?
[HD2 General] Ouzo:
I went from a TP to the HD2, and I too really miss the hardware keyboard. As has been mentioned, the on screen keyboard takes up a lot of space and leaves almost exactly 2.8" free above it. On the plus side it is so much smoother and faster : ) Watching films or tv shows is a pleasure (indoors). The capacitive screen does take some getting used to, but several months into ownership i really like it.Unless the rumours about an HD2 with a keyboard are true, i'd say go for it....
[HD2 General] stevedebi:
What about cutting and pasting in, say, a Word document, for example? I can't select text on my TP2 without using the hardware keyboard (Hold "Shift" key and use arrows).

Can you easily select text on the HD2?
[HD2 General] petersm:
Ì say go for Touch HD. The screen is very responsive, I can easily copy and paste.

However I am experiencing some 3G network problems which might be hardware related, I've read more people with this problem. But there are a lot of users without these problems so probably a poor production batch or something, That is what warranty is for:) And I could also recommend a custom rom;)

Beside the solvable networkproblem, in my opinion Touch HD is a great phone.
[HD2 General] MadSci:
TP2 to HD2 - Pros & Cons

First - full disclosure, I'm on AT&T so I went from the Tilt 2 to an Australian Telus HD2 - flashed it for the latest Official HTC ROM. I understand you are on T-Mobile, which uses slightly different devices, so your milage may vary ;)

The TP2/Tilt 2 was a great machine for typing lots of involved messages and emails. However, the hardware was still struggling to keep up with things, and it would frequently freeze or crash if I was muti-tasking or typing an email when a call came in. And don't get me started on how wonky it was if there was an Notification that hadn't been delt with. In other words, it was deficient in the same way that all WinMo phones seem to have been- namely the hardware wasn't able to adequately support the processor cycle/memory hungry OS. And the much-lauded graphics were frequently laggy or even frozen too.

To be fair, there was much less of this than any of my previous WinMo devices (I go back to the days of the MPX-200 so that's a lot of them), but fundamentally, after the Carriers steal all the memory for their Crapware, it was still not quite there - often in a disappointing or even dysfunctional way. I use my phone a lot for my business, and it's not funny when you miss several calls in a row due to phone freezes, re-boots and or lags due to Notifications. On the other hand, the Keyboard was fabulous!

The HD2 is a completely different experience. The processor, available memory and memory bus are almost as fast as the OS can handle. Freezes, lags and delays are almost (not quite) non-existant. It will still occasionally slow down if several Notifications remain un-acknowleged, but now this is a rarety, not a daily issue. It multi-tasks almost seamlessly and yes, I find it easy to cut and paste. The graphics capabilities are excellent, you can brows at high speed and not see the annoying Opera checkerboard for hours!

In terms of reliability, going from the TP2 to the HD2 has been kind of like going from W95 to XP. Finally you can actually count on being able to do everything the manufacturer said you could do, with minimal freezing and crashing. After 7 odd years of WinMo it is finally an almost seamlessly pleasant experience.

I'm still missing the keyboard when I type, but overall if I had to choose I'd say the HD2 wins hands down. The annoyingly less efficient keyboard still takes far less time and energy to deal with than the other performance issues of the Tilt 2. Add to that it's a LOT easier to see things on the bigger screen, it runs programs MUCH Faster and MUCH more reliably, and there's no doublt which I prefer. I still have my Tilt 2, but I will probably be porting Android onto it just for fun.

In the meantime, I'm still increasing my typing accuracy and checking out alternative keyboards, so the HD2 is closing in on the Tilt 2's better typing experience.

If typing information is almost all you do, then I'd keep the TP2 assuming you aren't going nuts with the it freezing up or lagging.

If you make good use of your phone for other things - browsing, games, music etc, then I'd say - go for the HD2 - you will wonder where this gem has been!

MadSci
[HD2 General] BumAround:
There are several cabs to improve the accuracy on tapping the onscreen keyboard.

No keyboard is not a deal-breaker.

I got used to it very fast and never been a crybaby over 'missing the keyboard' :)

Unless, using MadSci's term, you'd rather pamper yourself with Win95. :D
[HD2 General] stevedebi:
Thanks for all the replies

I think I will go for the HD2, but it turns out it will be some months before I qualify for the lower pricing on T-Mobile.

Thanks to all who gave their opinion. I'm sold on the HD2!
[HD2 General] piztol44pete:
I love my HD2 the only drawback from going to the tp2 to the hd2 is they ease of typing, it took me a while as well but with the help of swype i can type just as fast if not faster. but the processor the response is amazing the camera is much better and i love the addition of a flash. i know you already made up your mind and you are better off going on Craigslist and buying one in case you dont have a data plan because you will not a discount from t-mobile with out adding an unlimited data plan. Good Luck!