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[EVO 4G General] onyx00:
You really need to make sure you are on a non-conducting source. I know I know, a pillow. But I had my phone on a wooden table (with and without paper under it) at Best Buy yesterday and it worked perfectly, then tried it on a plastic display sign and it showed the unresponsive screen.

I did some testing with my crappy multimeter and noticed a voltage difference when the phone was properly grounded vs. not properly grounded, but it was in the mV range, so I really need a much nicer multimeter to be sure about my readings.

In general, for those affected - I think if we can get some accurate data, a simple resistor may fix the issue. But I need accurate readings to pick the right resistor size.
[EVO 4G General] :
I can try it on anything you want me to lol.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PDAS_R_Cool:
Hello, this is my first post ever. I'm usually very good with phones, but this is my first Android device, and I'm sort of confused about it.

So I just received a stock unlocked Rogers HTC Dream today. I put in my SIM, started the phone, pressed on the little green android, and set up everything. It was going smoothly until I reached Date & time settings. This window pops up:

Sorry!

The application Settings

(process com.android.settings)

has stopped unexpectedly.

Please try again.

So I force close, and that's as far as I get. I'm not sure what to do, or how to make it NOT do this. I can't even make calls on it. :(

Any help would be greatly greatly appreciated.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] B6gSix:
you gotta re do it over your self. GO HERE and this should get you set up. good luck. hope the link helps.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PDAS_R_Cool:
Okay, I tried to apply sdcard:update.zip and I got this error:

E:Can't mount /dev/block/mmcblk0

p1 (or /dev/block/mmcblk0)

(No such file or directory)

E: Can't mount SDCARD:update.zip

Installation aborted.

Any ideas? I can't get it to take the original SPL (though it should be stock since its only unlocked).

Also, when I install the RC29, it does nothing. I still get the same error and force close...

UPDATE:

Ugh, after hours upon hours (I'm talking over 12), I figured it out. Apparently I had to update it on Rogers website, but now I'm stuck with a PerfectSPL. BUT. My phone works. Thank the freakin' maker.
[Windows Mobile] chris5s:
Anyone have a definitive ie7 package for winmo 6.5.3? :confused:

I have been cooking with the one that came with the SYS - 23569 at th mo - but it just seems so buggy. Some sites - notably this one! - take forever and a day to load, even when I know my connection speeed is good. And downloads never seem to complete, altho hooked up to the laptop they are fine - or in opera.

Am I missing something basic here? Is pie really that crap???

Answers such as 'use opera/skyfire/etc' not acceptable ;)

Peace
[HD2 General] pnjboyzz:
Hi All,

thanks in advance for reading it.

HTC HD2 has a GPS functionalty. which GPS can i use ? and where to get that GPS appz with instruction on installtion.

thanks:)
[HD2 General] sirphunkee:
Well one of the best is the built-in google maps client, fully integrated with your GPS/aGPS.

Beyond that, you can use any of the common GPS clients for winmo. The thread below is just one of many on that same subject that you will turn up through a search of the forums for "HD2 GPS apps"

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=5098891
[HD2 General] toreone:
I would download the latest installment of BING! Great GPS Maps and now has voice guided turn-by-turn navigation! FOR FREE. Well you need a data plan but pretty much free!
[Desire Accessories] namz:
Hi Guys,

Saw this 2A car charger for HTC Desire, thought I'll post it here and ask everyone if this will work well with HTC Desire. I dont want to damage my new Desire by buying something that kills it.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300435508442&_trksid=p2759.l1259

Let me know your comments.

Cheers!!
[Desire Accessories] Fon22:
Amps are not pushed to the phone from the power source,

They are pulled by the phone, from the power source.

Therefore the phone will only request what it needs, IE you cant overload it.

Voltage on the other hand will!

So to answer your question,

it will be ok.

Fon22
[Desire Accessories] namz:
Thanks Fon22. pardon my lack of knowledge , so what diff will a 700ma or 1000ma will have against 2A car charger ?? Any benefits ? or its better to buy a cheapo 2$ 700ma charger ?
[Desire Accessories] Smirge:
WEll, it's best to get the charger that can deliver the most Amps. So if the phone needs it because you're using GPS and music and what have you - then the amps will be available instead of the phone consumes more battery than it gets from the charger.

So get the one with the biggest Amp spec - but still 12 volts
[Desire Accessories] namz:
Thanks guys.

And If I am not wrong , It should work with HTC Desire as well (it is being advertised as being Touch HD)..

Cheers!
[Desire Accessories] benly:
I know you're referring to the source (input) voltage, but just incase it confuses someone, you want the OUTPUT voltage of the charger to be 5V. Output voltage of 12V would almost certainly do damage as the stock charger and USB spec are at 5V +/- nominal tolerances.

Amps though, yes. Preferable to have something which can deliver at least 1A.
[Desire Accessories] Smirge:
That is correct - the INPUT is 12V as per the car battery, but the OUTPUT should be no more than 5V - thank's for clearing that up :D
[Desire Accessories] Orka82:
1A is enough.

It's another important thing to this.

I tried to explain the issue here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6863243&postcount=24

I hope my english is ok. ;)

Edit:

Same info here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6443313&postcount=18
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Blackleopord187:
so yo watsup devs... i was wondering if maybe anyone had any 6.1 roms that nrg made back in the day? if you could could you upload it and post the link here? that would be great
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ben_duder:
You might have more luck PMing NRG yourself; he said once that he has all his old ones archived.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] RezzZ:
I thought all 21905 roms were 6.1 so why not download one of those?

edit:

ahh damn, startmenu is different in 6.5. sorry, 21905 is wm 6.5.

sorry.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Blackleopord187:
hmmmm

well before i pm him... anyone else have any 6.1 roms?!!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] RezzZ:
sorry, only starting collecting energy roms since april this year.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ben_duder:
Sorry, I don't have any either. Why do you want one? All of the packages will be outdated and you can still just get a recent 6.1 custom ROM and skin it a bit.

Do you need it to have Manila?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] manoli20:
ive got one from march 2009... was a VERY fast rom. let me know if you want it still.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Blackleopord187:
yes please i would love to have it

stable?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NRGZ28:
It better be !!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] neptune:
lol...strong statement of one's work...good to see
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] patch28:
I am also interested.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Blackleopord187:
still no links?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] superlinkx:
Hey all, I don't know if anyone has even noticed on their Evo's but on mine, the Android system usually eats most of the battery. I noticed there is a ton of processes under Android system that are running compared to like five on my Hero. I've never seen the core system processes take up more than maybe 15% of the battery, but right now, I'm at like 41% with 16m 6s of CPU total and 47s of CPU foreground. If anyone knows why this is or a way to fix it, please let me know. I'm on the first MR update. I've been able to get a lot of battery stuff figured out, if I can get the system to calm down, then I should be able to get even better battery life than my Hero.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joshwindeel:
I'm seeing the same thing, android system is at 96% battery use after letting the phone sit overnight. Never saw that on my nexus, this is strange.

Could be related to the fact that everything is syncing up, I just activated last night too.

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[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] superlinkx:
Yeah, the system seems to have calmed down a bit today, though I also have the OC widget running to keep the processor lower during sleep. I'm guessing its helping, but I'm not sure if there is something else to get it down. I almost never even saw the System show up in usage on my Hero, now its one of the top contributers. I got used to having custom roms on the Hero, but so far all I need on the Evo is unrevoked. I know a lot of people around here don't like it, but I found I only needed a couple of apps that require root and so far love it. That OC widget really comes in handy.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Freelancerx:
maybe i can clear things up a little bit for you guys...what you see in the battery use section is distributed across 100% of the time since you last had it plugged in. if you notice all the percentage numbers add up to 100%.

if you plug your phone in and turn it on and off on you will see that android system is probably around the 90's thats because android system has used 90+ percent of the phone since you plugged it in....over time that number will lower, becuase other things will start using the battery power... what you see is a percentage based on time. not based on whats actually working RIGHT THEN AND THERE do you guys understand?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grrgrrgrr:
I too am having that problem and at 15% battery life warning - it still shows my Android system @ 40-44% usage after 8hrs of work.

I mostly text message all day long due to work - make phone calls and recieve calls from work every hour. GPS on for no more than 15min all day long to get direction when my keymap book doesnt help.

4g off, bluetooth off, background data 15 min only (gps) than off, gps off when not in use, mobile network (3g) off when not in use.

I would have figured my screen being on would have drained my battery life since I check text message every 10-15mins for 8hrs...

So went to work at 9am, 100% life

got off work 6pm, 25% life

I've done all the tricks, cdma only, force stopped a bunch of apps, goggle talk off, sync off, making sure maps/gps has been closed (forced or not)

still disappointed with battery life.

Unrooted Evo

My crappy AT&T Razr lasts me 2-3days with text message + call + 1.5hr of playing Bejeweled a day
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Freelancerx:
*facepalm* you guys don't get it....
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Freelancerx:
check your hardware version there is a thread about different types of evos and it seems like everyone who has the hardware revision 0001 has really bad battery life. i would exchange your device.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] superlinkx:
Yes we know, Freelancerx, or at least I do. But after over 8 hours and the system is still using more of the battery than anything else is a little disturbing. Never seen that on any other device. I have Hardware 0002.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] omegasun18:
I have this same issue with hardware version 0002. I run Fresh 1.0.1, i use Netarchy-toastmod kernal, have latest radio. I have also tried Damage Control (did get slightly better battery life out of DC but not amazingly different)

after 7 hrs since unplugged my andriod system is at 39%, cell standby 28% phone idle 20% display 9%.

i dont have bluetooth, wifi or 4g on. I use juicedefender+ultimate to turn off apn when screen is not on. I use set CPU to underclock when i am unplugged and go down to 128 when screen off and i am Stilll lucky if i make it all day with moderate usage.

Every day it is the same andrioid system is around 40% of the usage for the time it was unpluged.

the following is listed under included packages (not sure if this shows the same for everyone or if it shows what packages are running)

BRCMBluetoothService - Bluetooth is not on so if it shows packages running this may be an issue

Sync Feeds - I have all android syncs off and mail at 6 hours

settings storage

Rosie Utility

Acounts & syync

Account and sync settings

settings

HTC Widget Download Manager

Network Location

Setup

HTC Checkin service

Checkin serivce

VPN services

Android system

Wonder if there is something to the android system on these (ie something not turning off that should) or if we are all just crazy and happen to get the same results.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TeknoJnky:
I had a hardware 0002 model and often experienced the same thing with high system % usage.

My phone was replaced, due to a screen issue, and now I have the 0003 model and seems system % is much lower so far.

I haven't installed any system update yet, so I am on the first original release rom (not rooted yet).

Going to be testing it for a few days before I update and root, so I can make a fair comparison between the original and current oem's.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] satch12:
If your phone is on....Android system is being used.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] omegasun18:
I think everyone here understands this. the question i think we are trying to figure out is why with similar usage and configurations some people get 40-60% android systems usage while others get 10% over the same period of time.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Stephen2010:
Android system is way too high.

Yes but if it is configured in an optimal way then android system is always beneath cell standby and phone idle.

For example, today after 15h 28m 23s since unplugged I have...

Cell stanby 38%

Phone idle 37%

Android System.....12%

That is with background processing with auto syncing every hour or so.
[EVO 4G General] EVO-lution:
OK so we all have heard about the 30 FPS issue that the Evo has...... now lets do something about it since HTC says it was "designed" like that.

Are any of the devs working on this and if your are please share your findings with the rest of the community so we can all chip in and try helping.
[EVO 4G General] redct:
Not really a dev, but if you flash the Froyo-Dev ROM, you'll see that the boot animation speeds along at 30+FPS for a while then drops down to 30 after something gets loaded. I don't know if this is unrelated or not, but if it is related, it seems that the cap is software-enforced by a kernel driver or something.
[EVO 4G General] frettfreak:
not a dev (but would like to learn).. but i am REALLY glad someone brought this up cause 30fps is NOT GONNA CUT IT.

I Really hope one of these amazing devs can make this happen cause i would hate to have a crippled phone!! lol
[EVO 4G General] webnetics:
I second this motion, this should be high priority. I can't believe the EVO with the hardware that it has "was designed" to under perform. Don't get me wrong the phone is amazing but the future of Android gaming is on the rise. I just purchased NOVA from gameloft. That game is like the mobile version of Halo but it is alittle laggy which makes me sad :'( please help.....

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[EVO 4G General] EVO-lution:
Its a good thing have alot of great devs such as toast have the evo.... I believe that the problem is either associated with OpenGL or a kernal driver but im going to let someone with more knowledge answer that.
[EVO 4G General] phinnaeus:
Alright correct me if I'm wrong but if a game is running at 30fps then thats pretty smooth, right? I'm not saying this is isn't a bad thing, but you guys need to point your blame elsewhere. The EVO is great but it doesn't have an even halfway decent GPU AFAIK, so that might be too blame if you are having big 3d graphics problems.

What I'm trying to say here is if you were ACTUALLY getting 30fps constantly (because its locked, as in it would normally be higher) then would you notice this?

Didn't think so.
[EVO 4G General] jigglywiggly:
Dude... the phone is choppy.

30fps is really laggy! Think about the emulators, those rely solely on cpu speed.
[EVO 4G General] EVO-lution:
True but try playing a game like asphalt 5 then try it on the Nexus or Incredible and you will see a HUGE change
[EVO 4G General] frettfreak:
YUP... and doesnt the Incredible and Nexus have the same GPU??

30fps is laggy... you can even notice this in swiping screens and menus.. its just a little choppy... dont get me wrong.. i wouldnt trade this phone for anything.. but the hardware is definitely not seeing its potential here.
[EVO 4G General] webnetics:
Yes let's all correct this guy, there is a huge difference from 30fps to 60fps when running 3d graphic intensive media like some of the other phones out there.

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[EVO 4G General] frettfreak:
just a thought here and this is way out there.. BUT...

What if we could gather "pledges" or donations as a community and the first dev to get rid of this limitation wins?? Like a dev contest of sorts...

Could be a dumb idea i dunno.
[EVO 4G General] phinnaeus:
Once again I'm not trying to argue here, I haven't really gamed on my EVO so I will defer to you, if this is causing problems, then it should be addressed. But I have to note one thing: 30 fps is not laggy. Have you ever gone to a movie theater? Those are 24. Traditional camcorders are like 30, but sometimes 60. Yes the human eye can discern more (there is no definite limit... just like there is no single limit to the ppi the eye can see, so shut up SJ, its different for everyone) but at a certain point its like megapixels, you get more garbage than real information.

A real EVO example I can call forth is the Quadrant 3D graphics demos. The first two run like crap... maxing about at probably 20fps, but the planetoid one runs at 30 (capped there, obviously) and is as smooth as butter.

So I think if you had a framerate counter on those games you would be way under 30 when you notice the lag. I think there must be something else at work here.

Edit for webnetics:

I don't really mind if you try to incite mob rule on my posts, but please at least have the courtesy to refer to me as something other than "this guy." Preferably phinnaeus...
[EVO 4G General] EVO-lution:
ok so we know it makes a differnce... now lets start finding away to fix the problem at hand.... has anyone looked into OpenGL... i remember it has problems in the hero and it messed up the FPS but it was addressed by developers... maybe the problem lays in there.

A pledge for donations sounds good too.... im putting in 5 bucks.. lets keep this going
[EVO 4G General] timgt:
I can tell you this, when a buddy of mine with a Nexus one and I both loaded up the same games to see the difference next to one another it made me wanna throw my EVO at the ground as hard as I could.

It's choppy, its laggy, its all around BAD. The nexus one has the same processor and gpu and its smooth as a baby's ass. If you can't see it you are in denial.
[EVO 4G General] frettfreak:
I think there was a similar issue with the Droid when it got the 2.1 update... maybe we would be looking at a similar fix for the evo??
[EVO 4G General] davebu:
Why dont you repost this with a bounty to get this fixed?
[EVO 4G General] Jykinturah:
I wonder if there is a ROM of 1.6 that can be flashed on the Evo?
[EVO 4G General] Sporkman:
funny on my phone i notice no "choppyness" or lag could be there but im to busy to notice
[EVO 4G General] cosmocanyon:
For starters, i'm not convinced that the evo runs the froyo/nexus1 boot animation at more than 30fps. it just looks to me like it "runs faster" after the GPU driver loads.

I haven't seen any indication that it's running at 60fps. Just faster than the 10fps it runs before the drivers lod

Second, the gaming lag issues have already been fixed in the froyo build. Asphalt is playable on v6+ of froyo.
[EVO 4G General] spiicytuna:
Is this the openGL issue you're referring to: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=592663?
[EVO 4G General] Mast3rpyr0:
Ill put in $5 as well. <3 you devs, I wish I was as awesome as you.
[EVO 4G General] Krandor311:
phinnaeus is right, 30 FPS is not laggy. I own an Alienware M11x and for anyone who knows about that laptop, it was basically designed to run "new" games at the 30 fps range. Playing Just Cause 2/ME2/BFBC2 (holy sequels Batman) on my laptop in 30 fps is no less enjoyable then playing on one of my consoles at 60 once you cut out the screen size difference.

That being said, this is a bit frustrating because on some games it is noticable. I think this mostly has to do with some games basically being designed to run at 60 fps or bust, so when the frame rate is cut in half it makes the game noticably choppier. The best examples of this are in emulators and the game Caligo Chaser. The issue isn't even remotely enough for me to consider getting rid of this phone, but it would be nice to eventually have a fix for this.

People are making it seem like this is the end of the world but it's not stopping me from enjoying the hell out of this phone when I go to play Gameboid or one of the various games running on my phone. Considering how much snappier the custom ROMs available now are making the phone, that's the only time I can even see the fps issue.
[EVO 4G General] Mast3rpyr0:
I think it depends on how fast its rendering too. If its rendering at 60fps but only being displayed at 30fps, your missing half the frames. I have a feeling that the problem is in the screens drivers directly. But im not much of a system dev, just and app dev, so what do i know?
[EVO 4G General] Ecsoldier:
I think this would be a great idea like forreal, devs put alot of work into this and if we really want to see this done then this is what we should do, Idk bout you guys but i would donte $10 if its nesesary i know its not that much but if we all make some type of donations and turn it into a contest, then it'll be worth it. Hope a mod sees this and considers it so they can open up a contest and a place to donate.
[EVO 4G General] Mast3rpyr0:
I think ill make a thread for dev bounties. I think that would help out the devs alot and they would spend even more time working on stuff for us. Hell maybe they could replace their day jobs haha.
[EVO 4G General] Jykinturah:
Actually I just did a test.

I have a iPod Touch 2G. Jailbroken, naturally. I have an Evo 4G. Just flashed EVOlution for the sake of trying it out.

I did a side by side test, the iPod Touch just crushes the Evo in smooth transition. Scrolling. Zooming. Everything

The Evo 4G should not be struggling against an iPod Touch 2G. It is noticeably slower. Try scrolling, or try zooming an image. The lag is very visible.

I may post a video later. Maybe.

Basically, this 30FPS cap is crippling. Visually crippling. There may be some justification, but then give us a choice. Honestly, I don't think the Evo is capped at 30FPS because of just battery-life issues.
[EVO 4G General] setite:
Question: What is the refresh rate on the EVO's display.

No one has mentioned this. I assume the phone is capable of 60hz, but we need to be sure before we complain about the FPS. Again I assume the display can do 60hz. If they didnt do this on the HTC Incredible, perhaps there is a reason they did it on the EVO, other than being jerks.
[EVO 4G General] jakmai:
The question is not is 30fps sufficient, its wither you guys can figure how to to break the cap. Throwing in statements justifying your standpoint on the issue does not improve anything.
[EVO 4G General] Mast3rpyr0:
Exactly! Lets not forget that the entire existence of the "developer" is based upon the motto of "Because we can!" not "Is it practical?" :)

But in this case it most certainly is practical as well, so lets do it for both reasons :)

PS if any devs need any help with researching the topic or digging into some stuff while your doing other things, PM me and ill see what I can do. I know what im doing a little bit and can usually figure out most problems thrown at me.