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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] GaryMcQ:
No HTC Messaging version

Chad, I'm assuming the version that you call 6/1/10 No Swype, ArcSoft is the one without the HTC Messaging - downloading it now. Thanks so much for getting one out there for us without HTC Messaging. I've been using the Zenyee Disable HTC Messaging cab on your previous ROMs, which works, but for some reason it REALLY slows down the boot up process. Sometimes it will stay on the solid white screen close to 1 minute while doing whatever the Zenyee cab does.

Now, my question. When you (or anyone else for that matter) cook a recent ROM without HTC Messaging, are you just cooking in the Zenyee cab, or are you pulling HTC Messaging completely out somehow and going back to Windows Mobile messaging and bypassing the need for Zenyee's cab?

The main reason I won't use a ROM with HTC Messaging is that I have become very dependent on Vito's SMS-Chat for my texting needs, and it won't work until HTC Messaging is disabled, or removed.

As always, thanks go out to you and all the incredible programmers and ROM cooks in this community!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chadster214:
I completely removed the HTC Messaging and replaced it with Arcsoft messaing. and I might release 2 versions of the ROM in future releases.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hedcayce:
Anybody else having an issue with the screen sleeping? I'll put it to sleep and 3-5 seconds later it wakes right back up. One of the weirdest things I've ever seen. I'm running the 21901 build.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chadster214:
try the latest release..

http://xdaforums.com/show...&postcount=496
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] GaryMcQ:
Thanks for the quick reply Chad. Which brings up another question if you don't mind. Is ArcSoft messaging a THIRD means of text messaging in addition to HTC and Windows, or is that what has always been there in the pre HTC Messaging versions? I guess what I'm asking is do ROM cooks have a choice of 2 or 3 means of messaging? :confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chadster214:
the Arcsoft messaging is the messaging used for the 2.1 roms.. i think this is what zenyee is installing when disabling the HTC Messaging.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chadster214:
i'm currently running the 21905_208 and zoom bar works on Opera..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] uamis:
add new roms to this thread

Chadster.. thanks for the new roms. I 'm still on the old rom that eras2 released awhile back.. however is it possible for you to update this thread with the new roms? Also, anyway you can tell us what the os is on these.. ie 6.5 or 6.5.x.. and what the additions are just as eras2 does. This help me me as a noob to figure out which one to use.

Thanks again
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chadster214:
Sorry.. I'm not the thread owner and can't make any changes on the main page.. this ROM is a 6.5

here's the link

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6630876&postcount=496
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MoonPie2000:
6.5.x

Chadster214 - GREAT WORK! :)

Will there be any updates to the 6.5.x ROMs? I am hoping for a nice solid 6.5.x ROM
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chadster214:
I'm still trying to get the 6.5 where I want it to be.. maybe in the future.. have you tried the ROM?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] andersondb1:
need new version with VC installed

HI,

I am using the 331 rom because i need to have vc for my bluetooth announcements.

In the 419 version you removed it because of issues with Youtube.

Is it possible to provide the cab so i can put the vc back in and enjoy the other enhancements you have cooked into this rom?

Thanks

-Dwayne
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] andersondb1:
Sorry,

I meant to say i have the 320 rom

I added my own swype but like the larger swype keyboard from the HD2.

If possible from my previous request, I would like this new ROM and the ability to load vc and the new swype if the cabs can be made available.

I have a vc cab version v1.6.21040 but your cooked version is 1.6.21893

thanks

-Dwayne
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Pumpiron579:
all these builds have MSVC in them,

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6630876&postcount=496

if u want, look in my 4shared file below my signature and you will find MSVC in it
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chadster214:
the new roms have msvc 21901 in them..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] andersondb1:
Thanks,

I will download the new rom, but wanted the original messaging not the HTC.

Is the HTC messaging just as fast as the original or should i stick with the arcsoft version.

Also, why remove the swype in the arcsoft version? incompatible?

Let me know so I can download the best version.

For some reason my msvc wont work with my bt headset (announcing) unless in only tick the phone/calendar/messaging options. I also had to install the patch from dj13241 that makes announce work on the Tilt2.

Thanks

-Dwayne
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chadster214:
arcsoft is still faster than the HTC messaging. MSVC is always known to be buggy. HTC even removed it on their HTC Sense 2.5 release ROM. I removed the Swype to gain more space in the ROM. you can always install Swype from a cab.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] andersondb1:
Thanks a lot guys,

I will download and install this ROM.

I noticed that the swype from the HD2 has a nicer keyboard layout than the one from the omnia.

Just wanted to know if that cab was available since it might perform better than the original omnia version that hasnt been updated.

-Dwayne
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chadster214:
Check your PM:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] tysj:
Wow Chadster you've outdone yourself with e2's ROM. Tried the 21905 build after getting a bunch of SODs with the WCX Tilt2 ROM and it's the slickest one I've tried. The RAM usage is up there (70% with nothing open right now and not much installed) but I haven't gotten any SODs or terrible slowdowns and it is smoooooth.

Thanks so much for your work!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chadster214:
No problem.. I just basically fine tune the e2 rom.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] andersondb1:
Hey Chadster,

I notice that while in a txt msg screen, and you minimize the keyboard, sometimes the lower half of the screen stays black (or shows your lock image) and you have to like open and close the slider to get it back correctly.

Dont know if you encountered this.

I am running the latest rom w/ arcsoft installed.

Using standard keyboard although i have the HD2 swype installed.

Please advise.

-Dwayne
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chadster214:
that's been a glitch in for a while. i'm currently looking into updating the Arcsoft messaging since I found out that there are Sense2.5 that came with the Arcsoft messaging instead of the HTC Messaging app.so just standby for any updates..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bubbinator91:
Wow is all I have to say about Chadster's E2 rom. No SODs, the first rom to do that for me. And not only that, but I have heavily customized my phone (GTX theme, HDWall, etc...). 2 things though: First, theres a memory leak somewhere. I have to soft reset about once a day because memory usage rises into 70% usage and beyond. And second, sometimes when exiting HTC messaging, it causes the phone to hang. Sometimes it'll only hang for a few seconds, and others it will cause the phone to hard lock. Maybe update HTC Messaging to the 2013 or 2014 build?

Also, do you plan to put out a 6.5.x build? That would be awesome...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] andersondb1:
Thats great,

Thanks for the update.

Also, i cant see where i can change the identity of the device.

I remember a option being there before. i remember a reg edit that unhid the option to put in owner info.

Please advise.

-Dwayne
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] andersondb1:
Sorry Dude,

I found it under the "About phone" under settings tab
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chadster214:
technically the HTC Messaging is a 2013build in this ROM. the HTC Leo Patch was added and it gave us a lower build of 2011. the patch works really good.. it made the text loading a lot faster and you can start typing and send messages while your text messages are being loaded. so you dont have to wait for it to finish before you can typing and sending text.

FYI: there's another version of this ROM that has the Arcsoft messaging (old version).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bubbinator91:
Oh that's cool. I only asked because i'm not a huge fan of arcsoft (it's a pain in the ass to send picture messages through arcsoft). Also, any word on the memory leak or 6.5.x?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chadster214:
6.5.x may come later.. I want the 6.5 to be stable as possible..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] pinoymutt:
I just updated to the 21905 - ARCSOFT version a couple of days ago, and not a single SOD yet. Nice and stable.

Thanks for picking up the revisions/dev and new tweaks Chadster!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chadster214:
No problem.. I have something for you guys soon!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] GaryMcQ:
Speakerphone issues

Chad,

I've done quite a bit of reading in this thread trying to find answers on the speakerphone problem where someone on the other end cannot hear my conversation while my phone is on speakerphone - as if my phone is muted. From what I've read, it seems the AT&T dialer works fine with the speakerphone, the HTC dialer does not. The HTC dialer works fine with Facebook integration, the AT&T dialer does not.

Now all that being said, which dialer is used in your latest 21905 build? My wife's Tilt2 is still having intermittent problems when using speakerphone. Also, when using the "face down" feature, the speakerphone constantly cuts on and off. As for Facebook integration, that doesn't interest her at all, but she sure would like the speakerphone to work properly.

I apologize if this has been addressed and I missed it when reading through all the pages of this thread.

Looking forward to your next release. This ROM has come closer than anything else I've ever tried in keeping her frustration level held to a low simmer.

;)

Gary Mc
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chadster214:
there's nothing much we can about the speakerphone problem until HTC release a patch for it.. I am constantly check every HTC released ROM to see if there's a newer build of the dialer. the only advice I can give you is. do not start a phone call in speakerphone. once the call connects then switch to speakerphone. if the speakerphone start acting up do a toggle (turn off and on speakerphone). also make sure that in your phone settings "Reduce noise in phone calls" is set to "never".
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] GaryMcQ:
As always, thanks for the prompt answer and the suggestions. However, pleading my case one step further, if this is meant to be an AT&T Tilt2 specific ROM, why wouldn't the AT&T dialer be the dialer of choice over the HTC dialer?

Anyway, I'll get in there on her phone settings and verify the settings you mentioned above, and patiently wait for the HTC fix with everyone else.

One other point to ponder though: I've tried several ROMs on her phone, and the only ROMs I have had this problem with are the ROMs cooked specifically for AT&T's Titl2. (e2, WCX). Why would that be?

Please don't interpret this as a gritch session. Honestly, we have been VERY pleased with the performance of the ROM, AND the personalized responses to questions and problems. You guys are GREAT!!

GMc
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chadster214:
All 2.5 sense Rhodium ROM has the same problem which is the base for this build.. AT&T Dialer very outdated and will not work correctly with the FB contact sync and caller ID pictures. I'm hoping we get a patch from HTC or a new ROM release with an updated build will come out.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chadster214:
20100607 Builds are up

New optimized builds are up

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6630876&postcount=496
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] uamis:
chadster,

Can you please let us know what the difference in the two different messaging systenms are.. arcsoft and htc.. pros cons. I currently have the arcsoft and don't notice any major differences but figure I'd ask. Can't seem to find any pro's cons within the threads..

Not a major texter but would like to make a knowledgeable decision.

Thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chadster214:
please read the thread.. I believe this was discussed already.. quick pointer.. Arcsoft is the old messaging that was included in the 2.1 sense rom and the HTC Messaging is the new messaging that was included in 2.5 sense rom that most texters hate cause its slow.. texters prefer Arcsoft.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] eudaemonic:
Good job

I'm using HTC_e2_chadster_21905_208_NoSwype_ARCSOFT_Optimized_Final_TaskManager_1920.rar

I just wanted to share my opinions on your ROM because it's real good and worth commenting on. I multitask my device heavily as a phone/sms&mms/gps(igo8)/calendar/notepad/excel/weather/twitter/internet(wifi&HSDPA).

I install FingerKeyboard (no SIPChange)

iGo8.3 PDA Apr 2010

GarminXT

WeatherBug

Glympse

G-Alarm 2.5 (can register w/o needing CHaDSTeR Enable Owner Info.cab)

Your Bill

Microsoft My Phone ( I sync ONLY SMS - about 600+)

In your Video you mention a memory leak, and I see >75% regularly, but I have no issues multitasking the programs. I did set close on X and I never run anything else while using iGo or Garmin.

No lockups, always responsive, always works.

I'm really impressed so far! The only customizations I made were set to close on tapping X, disabling both proxies & rearranging the shortcuts to my preferences in Start Menu. I'm getting used to the Settings shortcut taking me to Manilas settings page - thats new to me but seems functional (I haven't installed CHaDSTeR Enable Owner Info.cab yet).

Anyways, this ROM really took a beating this past 20 hours or so.

**Arksoft pops up when All Messages is selected, but if you press the SMS Preview, it appears to still use HTC Messaging? I'd prefer zero HTC Messaging, but as I stated it's quite stable and responsive. I'm used to this behavior from other ROMS on my Fuze anyways.

Expect a donation if this lasts a couple more days for sure - Nice work! :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chadster214:
Good to hear

Good to hear that you like the ROM..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] johng75:
does anyone have any issues with received sms or mms? if the phone is locked and asleep like it would be in my belt clip, my phone never dings or notifys me until i hit the power button to wake it back up, then all of a sudden it goes off???

also signal is always dropping to nothing, and then bouncing back to normal full strength??? not in any programs, just sitting there on the home screen, nothing running in the background?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chadster214:
i never experience this...

I never experience any of this.. I just tested both sms/mms by send my self a sms/mms and turnoff the phone. i hear notifications.. also my signal never drops unless i'm a dead zone. did you do a task29 before flashing??
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] xboarder153:
I've setup my exchange account through the windows live app. Once its setup it is set to manual sync, but you can change this to whatever you want just by going into options - sync schedual. In the windows live app.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] xboarder153:
Keyboard function/Wallpaper

Installed .21901 only glitches im having are when adding contacts, if you want to add a number or input an adress it won't let me use the hard keyboard, soft keyboard works fine. its nothing big, just wondering if you have a fix or any suggestions. Also, wallpaper, can we get the wallpaper to continue throughout TF3D? I know this uses more memory but its nice, and when I flip the homescreen to landscape the wallpaper goes away, anyway to change that?

Thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chadster214:
try out the new build.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6630876&postcount=496
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] GaryMcQ:
Chad, since in the name of the newest build you use the word FINAL, does this mean there will be no new updates to the e2 ROM?

HTC_e2_chadster_21905_208_NoSwype_Optimized_Final_TaskManager_1920.rar
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chadster214:
No.. that is just the final for 21905. until a new build comes out.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] GaryMcQ:
I'm relieved to hear that. I do realize however, that ROM cooking for the Touch Pro2 will eventually come to an end as new devices hit the market, and when MS quits working on new builds to leak out to you guys. but I'm definitely not ready for that to happen yet.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chadster214:
Don't Worry..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rpowell:
can't get mobile video to work
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chadster214:
go to Start>Tools>Proxy Manager and enable both Opera and ATT proxy..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rpowell:
I did that and now some of the links work, but not all. For example when I try to watch a "Who's line is it" it cannot connect for some reason. Other than this the ROM has been great and I think I like arcsoft messaging better too.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chadster214:
I think that is the ATT site that is doing that.. since you are able to view some contents of the site the proxy settings are applied correctly.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rpowell:
Yeah I'm not sure. The videos are on YouTube, when I select the video I get an error, but if I refresh the browser with error screen up, all of the sudden it will lock in the video and play fine. I guess I'll just refresh each time, small price to pay for a good ROM :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chadster214:
New Build

stay tuned.. I'm currently working on a new build 21907.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] gmanunited:
Will the new build include the updated messaging....Located Here....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chadster214:
New Build are out!!!

21907_208 with the new HTC Messaging 2015. there should be no lag now

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6630876&postcount=496
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dryice1049:
New messaging Sent Notification

Is the a way to disable the sent notification the normal channels ie hd tweak show it as already disabled.

Great rom!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] johng75:
http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=341867&d=1276354373
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dryice1049:
@johng75 thank you sir.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jamesvill:
Chaster why is it showing 3G instead of H?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chadster214:
because it's an ATT ROM. ATT Stock ROM has that 3G also the bars on this is not cut off like the HTC ones.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rpowell:
does this rom normally run high 70'son resources?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chadster214:
mine idles at 62% with msvc disabled..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] johng75:
mine is also running very high (77+)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chadster214:
make sure you have "end programs by tapping "X" enabled.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Prodeje79:
Just flashed your newest one!

Is there a good faq that tells us how to disable this and that, and tweak options you recommend?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rpowell:
Ok I will switch to that, but on my home screen I always open task man. and make sure stuff is closed. I still run high 70's, when I first boot it is low 60's and I don't have alot of stuff turned on or loaded either.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] johng75:
yeap, that was already switched on mine...

just been doing sms messages past few hours with the htc messaging.... everything shows closed in task manager, but its stilling at 83%
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] XERO_Racer:
people that are having memory issues at this moment

only solution is using cleanRAM until the memory issue has been sorted

im running at 65% and i had a few apps open earlier today and closed them up, its not growing for me
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Pumpiron579:
Did you flash the AT&T stock rom or the Euro stock rom,

Depending on which radio you want to use, flash that stock rom that has that specific radio. Flash the Euro ROM for the 4.49.25.91

radio or the AT&T Rom for the 4.48.25.20 Radio
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] flopshot:
Has anyone tried to setup an Outlook mailbox that requires a domain? I can enter my username and password and server address, but the domain box is not accessible.

UPDATE: trying to add the domain via the TF3D messaging tab didn't work, but if you go into ActiveSync and create the account there, then you can add the domain name. Plus you can get to all the detailed ActiveSync settings which you can't get via TF3D config.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] johng75:
looks like im not the only one experiencing messaging issues... also, open up a thread with about 80 msg, clicked to type and it brought up the touch keyboard, i then opened up the phone to use the physical keyboard and the phone locked, had to manually reboot, im one to type easily 1k messages a month and the response with just a hundred of so is a little un easing... what type of messaging program is in this rom, id like to do some reading on it but not sure which one we have...

also noticed every time i restart the phone i have to specify the time zone, and if i dont and it goes to sleep with the time zone selector open it locks and have to manually reboot then too....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] epoh:
this exact same thing just happened to me like 5mins ago. I've had lock-ups in the past with other custom ROMs that seem related to the software keyboard being active while sliding out the physical keyboard.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] pinoymutt:
I just took the plunge from the 2.1 version, and so far it looks pretty good.

I did notice some of the customization I had from before didn't work:

1. Some of the Brent G. color settings icons didn't work anymore

2. KeepMyTones (I use to backup ringtone and notification settings) didn't match up -- looks like some registry key locations changed

3. I had a hard time using Sashimi in Auto mode the first go around (it stopped during the CAB installation phase). However after rebooting and restarting Sashimi (I elected restart instead of resume) it seemed to work correctly after the second time -- so I'll just chalk it up to bad luck.

So far, I am liking the interface. I was leery about moving from 2.1 to 2.5 because of the lack of the Programs tab, but the way it is implemented on the homescreen in 2.5 seems to be ok. I'm not big on social networking stuff, so I disabled the twitter tab -- although I've seen on other 2.5 ROMs a "Footprints" tab that I didn't see on the e2 version -- but not sure how useful that is.

So far, so good. As long as it's stable, looks like I'll be staying on 2.5 for now.

Kudos as always to the chef!