yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
well..the phone itself isn't bad or s..t,and not slow too(my opinion),the only downside here is that no devs here on this mini forum :(...and not any others from android chefs forum wants to help us

seems all the devs bought HD2....

and the mini should be it's little brother...don't you big brother guys want to help your little brothers??:confused:

p.s. i do understand your frustration:(
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
that sounds kind of COMMERCIAL!

I thought xda-developers forum was all about developing/hacking and helping each other...someone correct me if I am wrong.:confused:
[HD Mini Android Development] MobileMini:
Guys, lets dont give up so quickly. What are the real advantages of HSPL? Does it give us a real option/chance to upload an Aria or Gratia rom to the Mini? If so I would suggest we get some people together and donate for HSPL. I dont have much dev skills so I cant do a lot, but i certainly can spend a few bucks and some time for testing or brainstorming. I really think the HD Mini is worth the hassle! It is a great phone, compact but powerfull enough to play with! Its a kind of its own, a unique one...
[HD Mini Android Development] gabbana-music:
On 50 % you are right! People maybe also are ready to us to help with what, but there are reasons on which they physically are not able to do it! For example because of absence in his arms MINI! The basic concepts and a specific character ourselves we can find, having read through the necessary pages on XDA Forum. And there a lot of necessary we can find.

There are people which in it understand much better all of us together taken! But if they do not have ours hd mini how then they can help us?? To do something in blind begins nobody!Or you wish to have instead of MINI a brick? And on it it and is not interesting to them. So do conclusions !

I am sorry for my bad English!
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
Ok...well i suggest to donate for guy so he will buy a HTC HD Mini.

in my country this phone now costs about 200 euros,so if you guys are agree with this idea and we will find the right person let's do it!

on this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=871894 are around 15 guys who wants to donate,so i think if each of us will donate around 10 euro we can get a htc hd mini for developer who will make android to work on our phones ;)

@gabanna-music do you know any guy who can do this?cotulla or anyone else?

p.s we still need some more donors in case this project will start!(I hope) :)
[HD Mini Android Development] gabbana-music:
I communicate now with clever guys:) after I shall hear back, all becomes clear!:rolleyes::rolleyes:
[HD Mini Android Development] cardsharing:
@tracaplaca my only frustration is photon developing, becouse 50 members want to donate and no one developer want to post here reply and to try to make one step. Also i want to donate
[HD Mini Android Development] cardsharing:
we will be happy to see first success about starting minimal kernel and we waiting it.... so developers please see this post and we will start donating for it
[HD Mini Android Development] Teletubi:
Hi..all

First...post...but....I will donate, too ¡ ¡ ¡
[HD Mini Android Development] MahmoodN:
I will donate too.
[HD Mini Android Development] toni0815:
I will donate too.
[HD Mini Android Development] Eyramt:
will also donate..
[HD Mini Android Development] ivgeni:
Donation

I will also donate
[HD Mini Android Development] yeubacgiang:
let's donate!!!!! please
[HD Mini Android Development] nnemamarua:
I will donate too.
[HD Mini Android Development] cardsharing:
and waiting
[HD Mini Android Development] stanley57:
:D

:rolleyes:
[HD Mini Android Development] cardsharing:
Well, do you see now that there is nothing? Close this tread
[HD Mini Android Development] _Madmatt:
Come on! Get normal. Indeed, posting "I will donate" won't work. You should search a dev who is interested in buying a HD Mini and wants to develop Android for it.

And this will cost time, so posting "and waiting", and after a couple of hours asking to close the thread is exaggeration.
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
hey there

actually posting "I will donate" will help ;)

I counted to donate like 10 euros for each,so if around 30 guys will donate the final sum will be 300 euros,which is price of a HD Mini,so we will give this phone for dev who will develop Android for our phones.

gabanna-music said few days ago that he got in contact with devs to tell our offer,and he will get back to us with an answer.

so gabanna-music if you have an answer yet,let us know..so we can start :):D
[HD Mini Android Development] yeubacgiang:
the problem is we all are around the world, and we don't know who we can put our truth in...

anyway, i hope some deveopers can make their moves, so we all can see the progress, that will be more reliable ....
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
u think someone will get rich with your 10 euro?:))

and by the way,if you dont trust the developer you have the right to don't donate!

one more thing,DEVELOPER NEEDS TO HAVE THE PHONE,THAT'S WHY WE ARE DONATING FOR,IF YOU DONT FOLLOW THE THREAD DO NOT TALK,OK?

jeeez...
[HD Mini Android Development] _Madmatt:
Tzacapaca: What I meant was, that saying "I will donate" won't work if we don't know who we should donate. And more important, how much we should donate. If a dev wants 300€ for the phone, but eventually wants another 50€ for development.

It's nice there are so much people out there who really want to donate, that's not what I wanted to mention ;)
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
1.for dev we should donate

2.300€ will cover the phone cost,but after Android is ported for Mini he will keep the phone,or sell it..so he will get 250-300€ for development;)...not 50
[HD Mini Android Development] _Madmatt:
Yeah, indeed. And now we still need to find a dev :)

I can't donate, I'm sorry.
[HD Mini Android Development] cardsharing:
this topic is forgoten as a hd mini and hd2 is good option and this forum is forgoten because no one here
[HD Mini Android Development] _Madmatt:
Why are you so negative? I think we're with enough to collect €300 and with a couple of good glasses, we can find a dev that will do it for us. The only thing is that it will cost some time.

If we found a dev, please don't expect Android after a couple of weeks. It easily can take a couple of months, but if we have our €300, we sure will have Android one day :)
[HD Mini Android Development] cardsharing:
yes mate and where is one? I dont find one reply or one post here about it. I will pay 50 eur, this is not problem, but where is developers here, i dont see
[HD Mini Android Development] _Madmatt:
The dev's aren't here ;) They are in the Android area of this forum. We should go over there and contact a dev via PM to ask if she/he is interested in a free phone :)
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
Hey guys..chill :)

gabanna-music said he will talk to some devs,and i know most of devs are in Russia,same as him,so i'm sure he will find one..or more:D
[HD Mini Android Development] _Madmatt:
Yeah, as my Russian is so good that don't get further than opening my mouth, it is great Gabbana speaks it :D

I hope a dev wants to help us :) How many people want to donate yet? Btw, maybe HD Mini isn't that expensive in Russia :)
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
Russian devs are speaking English too :p..anyway not thats the point

i counted around 30 so far

HD Mini is around 300 euro,i checked on www.google.ru :)

here is 250,but i guess with shipping fees will get to the same price..so no sense
[HD Mini Android Development] yakamoz:
... if it helps, I'll donate, too (10 EUR).
[HD Mini Android Development] cardsharing:
hmmm any news hmmmmm hmmmmm hmmmm unbelievably

I will pay 500 eur for one reply here:D
[HD Mini Android Development] _Madmatt:
Be patient, Gabbana-music is contacting one or more devs. Please just wait untill he has got reply from those guys ;)
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
OK..I replied,give me 500 euro :p :D
[HD Mini Android Development] _Madmatt:
No, I was first :D
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
haha,you didnt demand them :p

hmmm..we are being offtopic here alot :(

not nice...
[HD Mini Android Development] _Madmatt:
Indeed, let's wait for Gabbana's reply ;)
[HD Mini Android Development] panzercool:
I'm ready to donate too !!
[HD Mini Android Development] hdwillems:
I will donate too!!!:)
[HD Mini Android Development] beejee0:
Grats now let us wait on a dev :p
[HD Mini Android Development] dudesimo:
hope we get some Good news!! i will donate too
[HD Mini Android Development] cardsharing:
I dont believe is not here one good programer interested for this phone, i not believe becouse this topic is one of most viewed topic on this forum and have 75,487 views!! :confused: I begin to believe that it is impossible
[HD Mini Android Development] _Madmatt:
Come on, please stop spamming this topic. The things you say are completely not related to Android Development for our HD Mini. You just complain that there isn't a dev yet, but with complaining a dev won't fall out of the sky...

Please give us the time to find a dev, thanks!
[HD Mini Android Development] cardsharing:
hehe spamming thread? Ok do you want to help and donate if devs come here? Do you want to drawn attention to developers to come here? If you want to drawn attention to developers, you must to spam this topic becouse this topic is not popular as a phone
[HD Mini Android Development] _Madmatt:
I don't think so. Spamming this topic won't help, because the devs don't look here. You should contact the devs on places where they actually are active posters on the boards ;)
[HD Mini Android Development] karip:
Hi, I also ready to donate with 10 €.
[HD Mini Android Development] derefas:
when i load haret i dont see error, display freeze next soft reset
[HD Mini Android Development] _Madmatt:
That's normal ;) HaRET needs.to be patched for our device :)
[HD Mini Android Development] -r0bin-:
hi guys,

wow i finaly went through the 29 pages of this thread!

i also own a hd mini, i'm not a guru but i have some knowledge on linux & cross-compilation, i'm eager to get android on this phone and i was thinking maybe i could help

if i understood well:

there are two ways to run android on hd mini (or hd2)

1- run linux image in windows mobile, from the sd card with haret.exe (xandroid project)

2- cook a rom and flash it with a utility tool like HSPL or something

the simplest way to achieve this is to use haret and a simple linux rom, like tzacapaca and cardsharing tried to do. (great job by the way)

guys dont give up you're pretty close to make it!

so, i cannot access to the haret website, it says it will reopen 1st tdecember 2010 (??) so i downloaded the software from cardsharing (and.zip), thanks!

i got the same error than you (unhandled exception) just after the message "go go go"

google drove me here:

h t t p : / / lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/haret-devel/2010-February/000013.html

there is a special version of Haret here that could fix this issue:

h t t p : / / xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=284592&d=1266872927

i was then able to launch something, i think, the bottom of the display changed.... but my htc froze here.

the log file do not show anymore the unhandled exception.

i dont have any tools to debug (haretconsole?) and not sure about the setup.txt settings, dont know what kernel is loaded either but this looks promising!

can you please send me the haretconsole?

can you try on your side with this version of haret?

cheers
[HD Mini Android Development] yeubacgiang:
im so glad there are still someone try on this
[HD Mini Android Development] -r0bin-:
thanks cardsharing.

i have loads of questions

please tell me:

- what is the version of haret you are using? how did you compiled it? (mingw32? what other tools?) what options did you set? do you have the source code?

(i'm pissed off i cannot access to the haret wesite)

- how do you know the ramsize, ramadrr is correct? (they are supposed to be relative to the CPU & RAM)

- how do you know the mtype is correct? (as far as i know this is supposed to be the architecture number, that was selected when linux kernel was compiled)

- why dont you use any initrd.gz file?

- what did you put in your zImage? what do you expect it shows if it works?

- what cross compiler did you used to generate the zImage?

- what linux kernel version & source code did you used? what was the ".config" like?

we'll make it work :-)
[HD Mini Android Development] -r0bin-:
great tool!

haret says ramsize is autodetected: we have ramsize.

now ramaddr...
[HD Mini Android Development] mooncmn:
i have try to run the haret for diamond1/2, but i forze like this. this means we should rewrite the boot for the image,and make a new image...somebody help!
[HD Mini Android Development] -r0bin-:
yeah i guess we have the same thing:

haret loading, progress bar 100% then device frozen.

problem can be haret binary, haret settings or linux image, but i suspect haret.

i need some time to investigate...

cardsharing, is it the post you're refering to?

h t t p : / / xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=10260451#post10260451

the error you got does not sounds difficult to fix.

apparently the makefile you're executing is trying to execute the "fixdep" binary on your PC, but it cannot be executed.

maybe you did not specified well the host compiler (hostcc), or something went wrong with the compilation of this binary.

if you're running on a x86 this shall be something like host=i386-linux (not sure the exact typo)

In case of I attached the fixdep.c

more help here, you're not the only one to get this error :)

h t t p : / / w w w .google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=scripts/basic/fixdep:+cannot+execute+binary+file

i need to find a desktop PC, install Linux and the cross compiling stuff and i'll fix this up
[HD Mini Android Development] cardsharing:
you want linux server to cross compile? I have one if you want to access?
[HD Mini Android Development] schlund:
i found a VERY nice presentation about embedded development, especially the part about aria android development and the how to is very useful:

http://cseweb.ucsd.edu/classes/wi11/cse237a/handouts/models.pdf

There are located related files:

http://cseweb.ucsd.edu/classes/wi11/cse237a/project/
[HD Mini Android Development] -r0bin-:
that would be great!

can you pm me?

tomorrow ill have more time to spend on it
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
it looks great dude :D

very interesting

Thanks
[HD Mini Android Development] cardsharing:
thanks mate, this will be good, but did you try that? Did you try to patch haret?
[HD Mini Android Development] gabbana-music:
haretlog

Somebody understands something in this log?:confused::confused:

It is log start haret
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
I guess you didnt find any dev....we were waiting an answer from you..

so did you get this version of haret to work on Mini?
[HD Mini Android Development] cardsharing:
I think this will be ideal kernel for hd mini, but problem will be haret. Anyone have contact with dev to patch haret becouse haret here is problem hmmm. Now, im installing debian, and i will install all toolchains from "quote" and i will compile kernel from "qoute" and report here result. If anyone was compiled it please report here result
[HD Mini Android Development] _Madmatt:
Good luck!
[HD Mini Android Development] _Madmatt:
Well, after HaRET we still have to port whole Android... Close? Well, let's say, we're on the good way :)
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
what about just putting Aria/Gratia Android on Mini? ;)
[HD Mini Android Development] Adrien95120:
I do not know if it shook very useful but look on this website "Nico Psykedelik" looks can be very hard it can you help?

http://www.psykedelik-htc.fr/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=33%3Aboot-android&catid=5%3Ainstaller&Itemid=3&lang=fr
[HD Mini Android Development] schlund:
i've searched the web about msm7227 datasheet, an i found some sheets that tell, that its nearly the same as all the other msm7XXX machines ..

so .. i also read in some forums that their problem was that haret detected "generic arm v6" instead of msm7XXX - that is already included in haret. in this log posted before, generic arm v6 was used ..

i think we have to add processor-text "msm7227" to the source..
[HD Mini Android Development] _Madmatt:
I wouldn't do that. You risk to brick your device that way. The drivers are diffirent, I fear. They're for sure diffirent for the buttons under the screen ;) Maybe the others will work, don't know sure.
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
the only different "button" is that pad..
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
let's try then :)

do u know how to edit the haret.exe?

there is a program hex editor of something like that if im not wrong which can do it
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
It is an alternative to muti-boot.

i copied this from site..

we need to have what to boot first lol
[HD Mini Android Development] schlund:
only thing i worry about is display driver ..
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
here is the irc chatroom of guys who works with haret and with getting linux/android on htc devices,so if u have questions they can help

http://en.irc2go.com/webchat/?net=freenode&room=htc-linux

Topic is Welcome to the HTC Linux project | Community portal & WiKi http://htc-linux.org | For IRC logs, HaRET & kernel mailing lists etc. see http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Contact
[HD Mini Android Development] schlund:
i could do this, but i need someone to compile!
[HD Mini Android Development] cardsharing:
problem now is haret and booting kernel....android is last step
[HD Mini Android Development] -r0bin-:
yeah you're right, let's fix first haret, then we'll see the rest :-)

thanks for the links:

i've registered on haret mailing list, i'll post the logs and request some help.

( h t t p : / / htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Mailing_Lists )

will let you know the results

edit: help request sent
[HD Mini Android Development] cardsharing:
My problem is language becouse my english is very lost hehe
[HD Mini Android Development] _Madmatt:
Mostly Google Translate can help you a little bit ;)
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
i can help with that,i know english,u know linux..we are a team ;) :D
[HD Mini Android Development] _Madmatt:
If you know each others language, would be fine :)

Someone who knows how I can compile the HaRET source on my Windows machine? :)
[HD Mini Android Development] schlund:
so, i took a look at haret source,

this is what we have to do:

http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/haret/haret.git;a=commit;h=615015fde3eda648fb083c65b7266f4e03f621a0

I'm going on ..
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
Great find mate :D

Good luck!

offtopic:this thread was never so alive like is now :D...its a sign!lol:D
[HD Mini Android Development] _Madmatt:
Sure! I hope we finally can try Android on our devices :)
[HD Mini Android Development] FFFX:
:mad:

HH
[HD Mini Android Development] cardsharing:
include/arch-msm.h diff | blob | history

src/mach/arch-msm.cpp diff | blob | history

src/mach/machlist.txt diff | blob | history

huh this is not for msm7227 and maube we have to add irqs for msm7227 :confused:

but i see this in last changes:

#define MACH_TYPE_HDMINI 3162

and in arch-msm.cpp function is defined:

MachineMSM7xxx::MachineMSM7xxx()

:confused:
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
WTF?.........
[HD Mini Android Development] gabbana-music:
Friends! After haret will unload from memory WM, for start android it is required SuperCID to the privilege!

I during search! To all it is at the moment interesting wm7 on hd2! :eek:

As soon as there will be a programmer which to us can make unlock, I shall inform!
[HD Mini Android Development] schlund:
you have to read between the lines (we say in german)

all the msm7XXX are nearly the same, the problem with these devices is, we will have to tell haret to use this config for msm7XXX on mini. At the moment haret detects generic arm v6 config, which wont work!

So we have to do the same like is done in this link i gave you. They had the same problem!

EDIT: read this http://news.softpedia.com/newsPDF/Qualcomm-Announces-Low-Cost-MSM7227-Chipset-104554.pdf

i have an official document from Qualcomm that says the same but could not find it anymore :(
[HD Mini Android Development] schlund:
oh man, google loves me this moment!

Chipset training introduction:

http://wendang.baidu.com/view/0f4f8637f111f18583d05af3.html

CHIPSET Training power management;´:

http://wenku.baidu.com/view/fabbb40216fc700abb68fc87.html

And finally *bambambam*

Memory controller and device settings:

http://wenku.baidu.com/view/d6acc6f90242a8956bece487.html
[HD Mini Android Development] haolc:
msm7227

may be you wrong. as now haret cant detect any thing. arm v6 config is the end of arch list.

may be you need define cpuinf at arch-msm.cpp by add flow line and recompiler

in arch-msm.cpp

MachineMSM7xxx::MachineMSM7xxx()

{

name = "Generic MSM7xxx";

flushCache = cpuFlushCache_arm6;

arm6mmu = 1;

archname = "MSM7xxx";

CPUInfo[0] = L"MSM7500";

CPUInfo[1] = L"MSM7200";

CPUInfo[2] = L"MSM7227";

}
[HD Mini Android Development] -r0bin-:
OMG that's awesome!

with the doc references, I was able to find the whole of those docs in PDF format:

http://avs234.net/docs/cpu/qualcomm/

with all this data, if we cannot make it...
[HD Mini Android Development] schlund:
this is what i tried to say :)
[HD Mini Android Development] _Madmatt:
Bump my question :)
[HD Mini Android Development] cardsharing:
I'm glad you revived this topic :) we need to edit haret source file to file or to contact haret dev to add msm7227
[HD Mini Android Development] _Madmatt:
Yeah, I have the source, but how can I compile it on a Windows machine? I fear I need a Linux to do that, isn't it? :)
[HD Mini Android Development] cardsharing:
see readme in source, also you have on sourceforge that for windows machine (see readme - what is tools needed for compiling and use google to find it)
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
you can use this ;) it installs like a windows program
[HD Mini Android Development] _Madmatt:
There is no readme :( I have this file ;)
[HD Mini Android Development] _Madmatt:
Will this run Ubuntu on top of my Windows machine? :) I don't want to lose my Windows OS ;) And can I switch between Windows and Ubuntu while running or do I have to choose between the two at startup? :)
[HD Mini Android Development] cardsharing:
use cygwin and cegcc-mingw32ce or install ubunto but do not install grub to master boot record (only to partition!!!) becouse your win will be lost
[HD Mini Android Development] tzacapaca:
1.it installs like any Windows program

2.no,u cant switch :p

3.yes,its dual booting
[HD Mini Android Development] _Madmatt:
Let's try it out :)
[HD Mini Android Development] gabbana-music:
htc_hd_mini	MACH_HTC_HD_MINI	HTC_HD_MINI	3299

We already in the list!!!!!!!!

http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/machines/list.php?id=3299
[HD Mini Android Development] RoSo:
I just can say WoW

3 new pages in just last 3 hours ! thats awesome ;)

I'm sure finally you will find a way

thanks guys

I thinks it's better we edit tags of this topic now, maybe it would be a essential way for approaching developers to this topic !
[HD Mini Android Development] schlund:
just as promised i will give you the edited files for haret source!

arch-msm.h -> include/arch-msm.h

arch-msm.cpp -> src/mach/arch-msm.cpp

Now, could someone compile this please ? :D
[HD Mini Android Development] dudesimo:
we are on the right path guys!! i am following every step around here !! we going to make it i am having faith on you guys (:
[HD Mini Android Development] _Madmatt:
I'll try to compile it tomorrow using VS2008 ;)
[HD Mini Android Development] schlund:
added mini autodetect in:

machlist.txt -> src/mach/machlist.txt

please wait putting this to source until we have tested the the 2 other files :)