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[EVO 4G General] AshMa:
I'm also very interested in the Galaxy. I love the Evo but the screen problem has got me thinking twice and I'm not too happy with how thick the Evo feels to me compared to my HD2. I understand that the Galaxy has a CPU with the same clock speed but tests have shown it to perform better along with the GPU as mentioned. The much slimmer profile sounds very good to me and the lack of a camera flash is a letdown but one I could live with.

Samsung is known for not supporting their phones after release but they have confirmed that the Galaxy will be updated with Froyo. On 2G the battery is rated for talk time longer than the iPhone 4G and is of course replaceable. Also 16GB built-in + add a 32GB micro sd card and you have more storage than nearly any smartphone.

Here is the best review (9 pages) I've found on the Galaxy:

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9000_galaxy_s-review-478.php
[EVO 4G General] Dan330:
true the galaxy s has some great specs..

but you might want to do a little research on the Samsung support on thier phones. from what I have seen... it is a very big issue. they tend to push out great spec phones and then move on to the next phone to develop; and forget the old.

some times it is not just the specs. how the parts add and give you over all total performance. From reading on other phones.. (ex: hero vs moment).
[EVO 4G General] TheBiles:
But it's a Samsung...

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[EVO 4G General] k2snowboards88:
That's better than htc who puts out phones with glaring problems and then stops supporting them. I haven't had an htc Pune since the tilt. I was hoping they had changed so I could get an evo, but apparently they haven't. I'm liking the galaxy s pro right now.
[EVO 4G General] clubtech:
LOL....

True, but HTC's record is just as pathetic.

We'll see when we will have a bug fix release and maybe in 10 months Froyo...
[EVO 4G General] mjz147:
The Galaxy is nice, but if you like the developing and deep hacking and customizing.

HTC is the way to go.
[EVO 4G General] chim4ira312:
yeah you guys are right - i know samsungs phones tend to sound good on paper and turn out not that great after all. happened a couple of times before. wanted to love their phones, but just couldnt.

besides the galaxy s looks pretty ugly compared to the evo
[EVO 4G General] mysterioustko:
ok is it me or does this thing REALLY look like an iphone clone? Don't get me wrong the specs are good, but that Touchwiz overlay is a huge negative for me. In addition the only advantages I see the Galaxy S as having is the internal storage (which doesn't matter to me because I haven't even filled up my 16gb card half way yet, so an extra 8/16gb of storage doesn't excite me), the screen resolution (I'd rather have less resolution and a larger screen though), and the processor (same clock speed but faster gpu, seeing as I don't do an extensive amount of gaming on my phone I couldn't careless about that. Not to mention the gaming I do with games such as Gangstar and Nova, which are 3d environments, run perfectly fine). The disadvantages for me would be: lack of 4g (I get great 4g coverage here in Atlanta and also get good speeds on it 4-8megs), lack of camera flash, does not come with flash (you will have to wait until froyo, or install a custom rom to do any browsing that involves flash), and below average speakerphone. The phone looks like a decent phone but it does not have enough advantages for me to make a switch. Just my opinion.
[EVO 4G General] Aridon:
I'll pass on the samsung. I'm really not digging their skinning either. With their post support issues I think I'd rather deal with apple and the iphone or motorola and their new high end droid. That said I'm not going to go and get raped by verizon, I don't want to get raped by at&t either and I'm happy with my evo.
[EVO 4G General] toastcfh:
HTC 4-LIFE

anyhow the samsung does look nice. but its still not an HTC ;)
[EVO 4G General] AshMa:
I agree about the looks! It looks way too much like an iPhone and the UI screenshots don't make it look any better. But have you seen the long demo video on YouTube? I forget which one it was, but I have to admit I was pretty impressed by the way it all flowed and this is coming from a guy who loves HTC Sense.

For someone like me, the extra 16GB would mean that I could ditch my iPod 160GB Classic and just have one device (I like to keep all my music and audiobooks on one device). Also reported by a few different blogs, the Galaxy screen is better and the hummingbird is reported too as being faster than the snapdragon in our Evos. And I guess I'm alone in this, but the super slim profile is a huge plus to me. But that back cover is pretty ugly. I'd really just like to demo this thing myself, with my Evo in hand and then decide. I'd also like to do the same with the iPhone 4G. These devices coming out on different dates, sure does making the choice making that much harder.........
[EVO 4G General] denny_1986:
man look how responsive it is!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnOHlx0BZ2Y&feature=related

frikin amazing

Any ideas what career its going to be on?
[EVO 4G General] timgt:
You just like HTC because you get to fix whatever is broken. If you buy a Motorola or Samsung you have nothing to fix :p
[EVO 4G General] AshMa:
I keep reading different carriers. Samsung has said they want the device to be on every carrier in every country and so if that holds true then it will be on all but my question is who will have it first late this month or next month as reported. I have seen some screenshots, showing T-Mobile account data on a Galaxy screen, but now I'm hearing Verizon and ATT as well.......
[EVO 4G General] bobdude5:
bahahaahh not entirely true about motorla and samsung but still funny ahah
[EVO 4G General] toastcfh:
naw i like them because they build quality devices and have awesome customer support. i feel they do things right for the most part. i bet after u get done waiting for root on the samsung ull be trying to fix just as many things. also xda and all the other dev communities for HTC devices are well rounded and have a major following. HTC has been spiting out awesome devices for a long time. ive been hooked since my Axim X50v. that was back in 03 :eek:
[EVO 4G General] mrono:
I'm with you all the way on it, i like how motorola designed the droid X but not their software, and I wouldn't get a motorola anyways.
[EVO 4G General] AshMa:
Just wondering what your thoughts are on Motorola devices? The Droid X is on my short hit list.
[EVO 4G General] driguez:
Co-signed, even if I cheated w an iThing :-)

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[EVO 4G General] Ryan Frawley:
I was seriously considering this phone, but the back looks very ugly and doesn't have a flash for the camera...I think I'm gonna have to go with Droid X. It better not have an LCD.
[EVO 4G General] AshMa:
Agreed! The back is kinda on the ugly side and the lack of flash is no good but tell that to the millions of past gen iPhone users. Just read and saw the hands-on video for the Droid X and I no longer find it interesting as the back of it is also a bit on the ugly side. It looks a lot like a camera from the 80's; I really don't understand Motorola and their dated looking designs like the keyboard of the first Droid. Also the Droid X has a 854x480 FWVGA 4.4" screen: http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/exclusive-motorola-droid-x-preview/

BTW' guys, it looks like the Samsung will be coming out on T-Mobile first: http://www.cellphonesignal.com/samsung-t959-galaxy-s-passed-fcc-with-aws-and-1900-3g-bands/
[EVO 4G General] xavier1022:
Tue Droid x or Droid 2 look very promising except for the from camera missing... the galaxy looks way took much like an iPhone.. great screen though. Ps I finally tried the Sprint 4g here in downtown LA I guess it is released here... MAN IT'S FAST... SPEED TEST CLOCKED DN AT 6. 32 MBPS !!

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[EVO 4G General] y2ktibltd:
It does have 4g, and a camera flash. If you look on the Samsung board here you will notice that they have already released the source code for the Galaxy S. Sprint will be getting the Galaxy S pro though, same specs but with an awesome keyboard. I'm seriously considering this phone over the Evo when my Pre is up for an annual upgrade in a few weeks.

androidcommunity "dot com" /exclusive-more-pictures-of-the-galaxy-s-pro-20100614/

Damn noob status won't let me post links.
[EVO 4G General] AshMa:
Are you talking about the pro or the non keyboard model? All the videos and reviews I've seen, show and or state, no camera flash. Got a error trying to go to the link you posted.
[EVO 4G General] y2ktibltd:
Sorry I meant to specify the pro model, which is what sprint is hopefully getting soon.

Google search for "Samsung Galaxy s pro", click on the engadget article from June 14th. Follow the link under update: to see more pictures of the handset with the sprint 4G marking clearly indicated on the back, and pictures of the glorious keyboard.
[EVO 4G General] redzee:
The past Samsung phones that I have seen and used were pretty at first but then sucked in the long term. HTC for me.
[EVO 4G General] AshMa:
Your link worked the 2nd time I just tried it. I must have missed a character.

Never thought I'd not want a keyboard but times have changed I guess. For me I would like a slim as possible device......
[EVO 4G General] AshMa:
So I'm guessing you'd say the build quality didn't stand up to time, very well? I've never owned a Samsung phone but the Omnia seemed to do very well......
[EVO 4G General] sdc177:
Release date?
[EVO 4G General] heygrl:
I'll take a touchscreen candy bar phone over a slider like the Galaxy S Pro any time of the day. It's too big, and yes.. whether you like it or not the Galaxy S is a step higher than the HTC Evo spec-wise.

Support and build quality are about the same for each, with Samsung being less supportive and with HTC having choppy build quality. Say what you want about Samsung but their phones have solid build quality, with a few quirks. My Touch Pro 2 had all kinds of wobble out of the box.
[EVO 4G General] AshMa:
If you're talking about the non pro, I've heard all over the net that on or around July 21st on T-Mobile. But then again other reports are saying closer to the end of June.

I've had 3 HTC's now and 2 have had bad build quality; Touch HD and now my Evo but the HD2 was solid. Looks like I'm down to the Evo (a replacement for the one I have now), Galaxy S or the iPhone 4G. I don't care about what's coming later this year or next year; I just want a dang good phone within weeks, not months and I hope I get my wish......
[EVO 4G General] Compusmurf:
After watching the Wifi issues, the 30fps issues and the screen separation issues, (plus the lack of real keyboard), this new phone just might be the ticket. Yeah, I know, Samsung is slow on updates, but they don't seem to try to be the Walmart of smartphones like HTC is turning into. My TP1 was a wobbly piece of junk, my tp2, tho better than the TP1 still isn't the greatest. My wife's Samsung Moment is rock solid and she's pretty abusive to her phones.
[EVO 4G General] algershick:
I bought a Moment for my wife last November and it's never had a problem. She's a texting machine as well, so I'd expect some type of wear on the sliding mechanism due to that. None at all though, the phone is in tip top shape even after NUMEROUS drops by our 3 year old while she has used it to watch movies on long drives or in waiting rooms.

I had it rooted and mod'd as soon as was possible, and although I don't remember the specific problem, there was some sort of proprietary garbage that the guys at SDX/samsungmomentforum.com had to get through before root could be achieved. Something that other manufacturers don't do to their devices. Even with the source, they were having issues. Sorry I can't be more specific, that's all I can remember!

And, as far as not being updated, the Moment received 2.1 before the Hero did if that means anything.
[EVO 4G General] demandarin:
I've got my eye on the galaxy s pro also. That thing is gonna be sick, especially with a qwerty keyboard. Best of both worlds. I currently have a tilt 2 and my contract up in like a month or so. I was planning on switching to Sprint to get that new EVO. Especially since my father just got one and loves it. But now I read about the Galaxy S pro, and I'm stoked. When exactly is it supposed to be released?

To the people who just bought an Evo and now considering swichin, remember this. There will always be bigger, better, faster phones coming out. Juss like once the galaxy pro is released, it won't be long b4 something comes out to make that look less appealing. I can feel what u saying if you are one of the people experiencing probs with the EVO. If no probs, then u know u can't always keep up with the Jones, if u know what I mean. Great stuff though man, I'm loving all these new devices coming out. Plus I'm stuck, cuz I like the dell streak also. If I stay with at&t I'm getting that for sure. If I switch to sprint, a very likely chance, then I'm getting the Evo or galaxy s pro. More than likely the galaxy cuz its gonna have the keyboard. Not to be off topic but damn, have y'all seen the specs on that new droid x coming out? A 4.4in capacitive screen...dayuuum...but the streak has all mobile devices beat with 5in ;-) I believe that Galaxy S pro screen is 4.1in. So its smaller than evo...a very small tradeoff for a great keyboard. I'm goin crazy with all this new technology coming out. I Love it.....lmfao

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[EVO 4G General] notown775:
i love Samsung.. TVs.. the instinct sucked ass.. Seemed cool.. but then when you got your hands on it.... it really disappointed.

so far, i've loved the crap outta my HTC devices...
[EVO 4G General] bcnice20:
Well uhh duhh the evo is better what other phone you know has a kickstand yeaaaa..... anyway Samsung is horrible kernel in that thing will probably be a slapped together mess when its released
[EVO 4G General] scev5:
It looks like the galaxys glass also tapers up near the mouth
[EVO 4G General] Mecha2142:
Just a heads up; a few reviewers that have gotten their hands on a Galaxy S overseas have noted the cheap plastic build of the device. That 'chrome' trim along the outside, the nice dotted battery cover? All of it is plastic. Furthermore, there's no method of notifications outside of turning the screen on. So if you guys decide to trade the Evo for a Galaxy S, just make sure it can stand the test of time.

I guess it just confirms what I had heard about Samsung. They make fantastic components, but they always seem to drop the ball when it comes to making a device of their own.
[EVO 4G General] heygrl:
Who said it wasn't all plastic? Correct me if I'm wrong but a good bit of the HTC Evo is plastic too. If you want metal Motorola will probably give that to you.
[EVO 4G General] Mecha2142:
Yes, but it's been referred to as 'cheap' plastic. Otherwise, I can't imagine the reviewers complaining about a phone that's build like the Evo.
[EVO 4G General] Neotelos_com:
I guess we shall see...more I think about it and after further reading I think I will hold off.

It seems the specs are suggested to be highest achievable...not reality with the actual real-world clocks and hardware bottlenecks, etc.

So...I'll be keeping my Evo. :)

I wont lie though, I knew of Scorpion long ago...if that comes out in the form of a phone I'll be upset! (I believe it's going to be the successor to the shift or those sorts)
[EVO 4G General] Joker2206:
As much phones as I have seen from Samsung (no matter what specs on paper said) their phones always worked worse in the class.

Take a look at Omnia 2 and try to use it then compare it to HD2 and to Diamond2 for example.

You'll see that in many aspects of OS usage Diamond2 is equally fast (or slow) and it has much slower CPU then Samsung, while HD2 simply rocks comparing to Omnia 2 (which is 200 Mhz faster but works like it's 1Ghz faster then Omnia 2).

So, I don't expect much from Galaxy S.

My pick would be EVO4G...
[EVO 4G General] heygrl:
That would be nice and all if you we're making that assumption based off of nothing at all but it's already faster than any 2.1 device out. 2.2 would probably still put it ahead of the currently-released Snapdragon pack. Not to mention this isn't Windows Mobile we're talking about here.
[EVO 4G General] DiNoise:
I was really into EVO when it just appeared as SuperSonic. I've had 2 HTC WinMo phones, then Hero, so I wanted to stick with HTC phones...

Now I'm just disappointed in HTC quality (but still got hopes).

My Hero (that I'm still using) hasn't had any problems except for known "dust under screen", which is fixed easily by removing the screen and cleaning.

But EVO, (Sprint's current flagship super phone!!!!really???) and Verizon's Incredible is another proof of bad quality check from HTC.. COME ON!!!!!

So anyways, I decided not to spend 450 on Evo (since i cant get my upgrade price yet) and I'll probably spend it on Galaxy S (regular or pro) when it's out..

And I don't care that Samsung has bad support, HTC's support never helped either. I don't care that its UI is iOS like, I use launchers from Market anyways.

But I do care that it is faster than EVO and has better GPU, SuperAmOLED (more battery life!!!), multitouch sensors ARE BETTER.

So for now, Galaxy S would be my choice until HTC steps up with build quality and better GPU..

I still believe in you, HTC. (I love EVO design compared to Galaxy's ugly iPhonish look.. oh, and I'd prefer physical/hard buttons for home, menu etc. compared to touch/capacitive.. why can't Srint have Droid X?? :) )
[EVO 4G General] adrianv:
why would anyone want to use a qwerty keyboard over swype? i guess its personal prefrence anyways im using my evo with the fresh 0.2 rom and all i can say is wow.... its like if anyone has played around with froyo it feels like froyo and htc sense combined (and not the ****ty stuff from htc sense).

geekfor.me/new-release/fresh-evo-02/
[EVO 4G General] wortiz33:
I'm sorry but how many times have Samsung has said one thing and done another.. first they said the galaxy would update to 2.1 then they said its only going to 1.6.....I love my evo....just remember guys there will always be something better down the line after you buy something.......just how things are .. I don't have the money to be phone hopping ....lol

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[EVO 4G General] drbadass:
Precisely. In fact, here's a brand new review via engadget saying the same thing:

engadget.com/2010/06/16/samsung-galaxy-s-preview/
[EVO 4G General] k2snowboards88:
I'm not worried about a phone feeling cheap. I am worried about a phone that is cheaply made, tested and designed. I'm worried about separating screens, poorly made headphone jacks and terrible touch screen lag. Severe stutters while scrolling through lists also make a phone feel cheap. Requiring a 30fps cap to keep the battery life decent also seems cheap. A 65k in this day is cheap.

In short, a cheap feeling backplate seems comparatively good when compared to this phone, which I really wanted to like.
[EVO 4G General] Mecha2142:
The hardware issues you have mentioned are faults in the early batches of the Evo. This is a result of the manufacturing process, not poor design. Touch screen lag and a 30fps cap are software issues that CAN and probably will be fixed, not a hardware one.
[EVO 4G General] k2snowboards88:
You are right about a lot ofthe problems being due to a cheap manufacturing process. Judging by htc's track record though, these problems, both software and hardware, will not be fixed in the future.
[EVO 4G General] drbadass:
Whether that's true or not, I highly doubt that this Samsung will be the solution. This is coming from a 3-year Samsung vet.
[EVO 4G General] dhinez:
I told myself I would never get another Samsung phone especially after the Instinct. That phone had so many bugs. Samsung didn't even want to support the phone even though it had so many complaints. Instead they came out with a new version of it and left the old version to rot and so forth. My wife had the Samsung Rant and it sucked and received to support. Samsung sucks from my past experience. I'll stick to my EVO. I like the overall build quality. When the next HTC phone with Android comes to Sprint i'll be getting that. Just stating my opinion.
[EVO 4G General] Pops_G:
I do not want to lose my front facing camera. BUT don't forget.

GSM > CDMA

With GSM you get better battery life and data+voice at the same time. Coming from GSM to CDMA, I have experienced this issue many timew. I really dislike this limitation. I do not have 4G in my area so that is no help.
[EVO 4G General] sfox8:
I've been stuck with this dilemma as well. If the Galaxy S regular was coming to Sprint I may have gone for that if I hadn't bought my EVO already (even though I HATE Samsung's disgusting TouchWiz UI, the hardware specs are just amazing).

That said, Samsung and HTC are pretty equal in quality. They both have terrible support (samsung outranks HTC in the terrible support category), they both don't always have the best quality software optimization, HTC's build quality tends to be quite questionable at times, though I never seem to have as much of a problem with it as most people say they do.

Browsing forums and blogs with all the negative press the EVO is getting lately makes me feel horrible about my purchase. I can't even begin to explain how much buyers remorse I've been feeling over the past few days (especially with the iPhans sticking their 600,000 preorder numbers and Sprint's lies about sales numbers in our faces) but the truth is...

Whenever I pick up my EVO and mess around with it or do anything on it, I'm reminded of how great a phone it actually is. Yeah it has its quirks and its pitfalls but all in all do you guys really think the EVO is a bad phone? If you're like me and actually still really love your EVO then I think the question we should be asking is: Is it really worth giving up a quality device that, despite its downfalls, we are still happy with? After all, I've never been too impressed by Samsung's quality or user experience or support. I've never been a fan of Apple's walled garden approach. The Droid X looks promising but... Motoblur...?

The cut and dry of it is that my EVO is fast (though I hope we can get that 30fps fixed in root soon), I got lucky with my battery because I really haven't had too much trouble with it, my screen issue is not nearly as bad as everyone says theirs is, the user experience is pretty seamless, I'm happy with the camera and video quality, front facing camera works wonders at parties, and lastly it's an extremely SEXY device design-wise.

I think I'm gonna stick it out and hope that HTC and developer community can solve the software issues and I will be a happy camper.
[EVO 4G General] drbadass:
+1. This is exactly how I feel. I'm glad someone else does too.
[EVO 4G General] Vandam500:
Same thing here. I came from a Nexus One and have not regretted my decision one bit. Its gotten even better now after having full root and all this ROMs that have been released.

The Evo is still in my opinion the best Android phone available now and still haven't seen anything to top it (Hardware wise at least).