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[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Diabolico:
First of all: Gratz on the aweseom job guys and most above all for the patience you guys had with both the stubborn SE device AND with the community on this forum :D

I guess you would be able to extract the apk files from the current system and use it on future custom roms if you really insist to do so. Not sure though!

It would still be Android 1.6 as they only have achieved root for this moment and don't have the ability yet to load custom (unsigned) ROM's. They just used this root to uninstall all the unnecessary apps that suck up resources.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] McKebapp:
Woha... I guess this is the fastest growing Thread ever on XDA :D

But people:

PLEASE be patient from now.

Gaining root is a pita atm.

I don't

even understand

for 100% how it was achieved and I don't have root either (@Bin4ry, jarpelea, Biktor_gl *hint *hint *hint.. O.k. just kidding, *duckandcover* ...).

It will surely take some time from now till a userfriendly guide will be released.

But the guys work really hard on it. (I'm asking myself, if they even sleep...).

Again: Please be patient... Good things will happen...

By McK :)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] ddewbofh:
If they want help with writing a guide just hit me up, I've been doing documentation for years. :)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] mobz:
erpelea, biktor_gj, bin4ry.. I love you guys.

Waiting for more good news..
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Evostance:
I have a feeling its a very manual thing to do like the original iPhone jailbreaks were before they automated it.

I guess it will be do-able, running cmd with various commands, but one small typo etc could brick your device and they want to develop an easier or automated way of doing it like pwnagetool.

If they released it now with the manual method, lots of people would probably brick their phone and all hell would break loose.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] iridaki:
I actually had to look-up "pita" on google and the first result was "a round pocket bread widely consumed in many Middle Eastern and Mediterranean cuisines" and that got me really confused! :confused:

And then I read "also acronym of pain in the *ss". :D :D :D

Silly me!

Anyway, I want to thank you also for providing the private place for the developers to interact and cooperate.

It's been a great accomplishment for everyone involved. :)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] ddewbofh:
Yeah, that's why I figured they could use a technical writer to avoid any confusion. :)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Mohaichi:
seriously WELL DONE!!

'nough said :)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] tranced_:
@Alleniv: maybe the secret was that the only multitouch SE device would be the X10 mini.

Hey guys this is my first post here and as many of you I decided to do it here to congratulate you for your hard work. I don't own an X10 but I'm willing to donate for the cause.

You just put the donate button and we'll be clicking on it!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] children:
been following the threads for a month or two.

good work devs, expect a beer on me for all three (4?) of you guys

cheers
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] aldoyh:
Perfect, Finally good news!

A BIG thanks to go to all of you out there.

Glad to donate, just tell me where?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] tuxStyle:
This two are useful sometime ...

Also, TTS is not the voice engine?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] gaz23g:
exellent news guys many thanks in advance to all on edge of seat now lol!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Alleniv:
Mmh I don't think so... when I asked, I said that I already knew about X10 Mini display hardware; when they replied, they specified that were referring to X10 "standard"
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] j4mm3r:
My congratulations to all the devs and the others who have been helping out to achieve this. I've been following this thread since it was only a couple of pages long and seen the constant stream of joyous messages.

Me personally have just one request to make to the devs, whenever you guys release the instructions/tutorial is it also possible for you guys to document the technical details of the hack? I used to be a software developer some time back but fell behind times slowly. When I got this new X10 of mine it re-kindled the desire to begin hacking all over again. I'm really exited at the prospects of having root and then be able to make my phone do my bidding :-) It would be nice to see how inquisitive minds such as yours approach a problem and find out solutions!!

All said and done... thanks anyways for this good news and this new ray of hope for this device...

/j4mm3r
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] alexacoruna:
Thanks you guys. you are the best!!

only one thing.

when we will have got te root, we could update to Froyo or not?

thanks, and sorry for my english.

PD: congratulations:):):)!!!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Britt78:
Calm down. Give the guys a break ffs!

But yes, you'll sure be able to update to 2.2.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] account1:
are you SE insider or what?

just kidding!

it's up to them to provide us such a detailed info but maybe you should consider placing such queries in personal (pm message service)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] devilsden:
+1 for that... funny
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] amir84:
is it mean ill be able finally to read HEBREW languge on my phone??

will i be able to add hebrew fonts ??
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] McKebapp:
That' what I'm talking about.

Everything else would be disgusting :D

Only three.

I don't claim any donation, as I couldn't provide any help on rooting Rachel.

It was all the really hard work of the other three ones, so they should be honored.

I only hope, I'll be a happy "NonDev" Alpha and or Beta Tester, before releasing it in a final Version.

Mean isn't it?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] oohyeah:
I only just bought the X10 for my wife 2 days ago (I have rooted 2.2 Nexus) expecting it was rootable, only to find out after buying that it wasn't. I'm so glad my disappointment was so short-lived!!!

Ready to Paypal, guys!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] :
LOL congratulations X10 Dream Team. I hope that the third claim, was the last claim. One big kiss in the mouth for everyone of you :D (included McKebapp for the X10 nude pictures and the secret forum) xD
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] tranced_:
Good! Then it means something else will be coming later on :)

I have a good feeling we'll see the final results at the end of the month.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Thrackan:
I just registered here to say thanks! And of course to see what I might be able to do to my X10 mini :D

You rooted for us, now we're rooting for you!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] MarylandCookie:
Im sorry, the technical details you require will not be made available for public.

Regards
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] fadimck:
thank you all
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] nizaamh:
Great going guys.

If you thought some of the members pushing for root was bad now just wait and see how they gonna push for roms and more and more.

Good things come to those who wait......patiently....:D

Great job...devs
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] lqbweb:
Why not?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] MarylandCookie:
Please discuss this in PM with the devs if you want to know why not.

I cannot give you a reason, all i can say is its in the best interest of the community. :)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] ddewbofh:
Lemme guess, it's something that is patchable? :)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] titom78:
A very big thanks to all people who achieve this hard work ! ;)

And to answer the question, the reason is to avoid SE being able to fix it in a future version.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] jnd16d:
can we hack the bootloader?

when wo can root our x10s?

thank any way
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] OM3G4:
hours, days, months... when "dev-team" want...
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] albertab:
Hello!

Count me in for a 10$ donation when everything is published (not how it's rooted, but simply how I can root my phone basically), I know it's not a lot but just want to show my appreciation for the work being done.

Anxiously waiting for a froyo rom to come without that SE integration. :)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] MeZmeriZe_:
would be cool if the hack could be concealed in a binary full of pointless but valid code and make it really hard for them to work out what the hack does. I like the idea of them having to spend ages and ages reverse engineering the hack to figure out how to patch against it.

Who knows, if it is too hard to figure out, the hack might still work on the 2.1 rom when they push it out.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] lqbweb:
i dont have anything to discuss, im figuring out which way the wind is blowing... but i think it's not the way, but we'll see....
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] mayamo:
Hi Jerpelea,

First of all, big thanks to you and the other devs!! You will surely be getting my donation soon :D

Second.. Your picture's UI looks different from Sony's .. Does that mean you have the nexus one's UI running on it? (I don't really know much about other phones so..) or Is this something you just cooked up? :P

Third.. I really need mediascape because there isn't a media player (free&adfree) that will play my music on the background.. Would it be possible for you guys to release a rom with a mediascape?? or even.. an option to delete whatever programs we don't want? instead of you guys just deleting all the programs? If not, is it really hard for someone like me to just follow instructions and make a custom rom?

Oh and also, this does mean that I can now finally use flash to full extent (not just youtube on app) right????

Thanks sooooo much guys!!!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Vilam:
+1 for having the choice of keeping some SE app^^
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Xstarz:
Thanks you guys so much! You rule!

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[XPERIA X10 Android Development] tranced_:
@mayamo @Vilam I guess they were just showing off. This won't mean it will be so.

This running froyo would be the ace!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] damirbusic:
Please can someone from now on whenever you post new reply just write under it WE CANNOT HAVE MULTITOUCH EVER ! DONT MENTION IT HERE OR YOU WILL BE BANNED

Thank you, I cant believe how stupid people can be and ask that question after seeing 100 times that SE said loud and clear that it is HW impossibility.

Tnx a lot
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Octanum:
Awesome news :D Thanks!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] mcbungie:
the post are coming in quicker than i can read them lol,

xllent work guys donation from me for sure
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] pimmen:
On a scale from 1 to 10 how hard is it to root the x10 in comparison to x1? Now without any guide or application of any kind..

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[XPERIA X10 Android Development] kimifrance:
Well done guys,

Bravo les mecs !
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] corruptfate:
good job guys and thank you so much xD
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] jerpelea:
is zeam home launcher as UI (smaller and faster)

mediascape can go i have added default music player (is smaller)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] j4mm3r:
Most certainly not... although I think i'll be using SE phones for a while.

Thats ok but a little difficult to understand the reasons behind it. Is the danger of SE patching the hole the only problem? In my opinion, knowing the strengths and weaknesses of the systems that one uses is a good thing, more information is never harmful. It can allow one to guard against malicious software that might use the same vulnerability to invade your systems.

In any case, let me not spoil the moment of anticipation with my own trivial musings... I hope we get the root out in the world soon and enjoy the platform for all it has to offer.

Thanks to all the devs again...

EDIT: What I posted was just a "request", I do not "require" anything of the devs... its not within my rights. I love the community effort displayed here and would gladly accept what they offer

/j4mm3r
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] jerpelea:
for now is simple

on an scale from 1 to ten is 20 :D

for an normal user is 20

for us is simple now

i have flashed my phone to shipped rom and in 20 min i had the sistem rooted and with all my custiomisations inside

after some finishing touches and simplifications we will release

(DONT ASK WHEN/ WHEN IT WILL BE READY FOR NORMAL USER)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] BTTNext:
Dude, take your time. Thanks for doing this.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] norberto_:
@jerpelea

is it possible (or will be) to flash 2.1 or 2.2 to the rachael?

BR,

Norberto
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] myleb:
Thx so much... Best news of the day :D
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] nidalius:
good job Jerpelea dont be cruel , i'm tired from typing F5 :)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] saltorio:
Great to hear Jerpelea. We greatly appreciate the little updates and info you and the other rooters are giving us.

20 mins to root and customize is great to hear. I fully understand you know what you're doing, but it gives some promise that the rooting process won't be ridiculously difficult by the time you guys release it.

Thanks again for all your hard work. It's very much appreciated.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] pimmen:
Ok I'm glad I don't have too trade my x10 for a nexus one or something similar to run 2.1> versions of Android

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[XPERIA X10 Android Development] poopstar:
Multitouch

haha :) alternative to multitouch! Google one finger zoom for x10.:p

I can't post links yet =(.

It doesn't seems that bad :rolleyes:
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] :
It is rooted, I have an HTC Desire.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] biktor_gj:
Well, it might be for two or three reasons:

1) I tend to sleep sometimes, call me stupid, but sometimes I need it ;)

2) I am probably on a different time zone.

3) After 12 flashings on one day the clock might have gone nuts before updating the time from network again.

Yep, good for you. I'm still waiting for your super-easy solution to flash unsigned files on a locked bootloader. Guess I'll believe it when you actually get that to work...

I don't know what's your point in here, really.

@everybody else

The complication on this is that you need a virtual machine running linux (wich I'm still finishing with some scripts to make it a little easier), with some uncommon configurations (so if you don't know anything about linux, it's time to look at a manual... or two). It's about 600- 650Mb in size, and it will take a little time. There are some things we need to finish, and still checking some other options to make it easier, but if it's got to be the hard way, so it will be.No worries, everything will be told when it's released ;)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] dan-htc-touch:
need the virtual machine specifically? or just a linux box in general? also, will vmware player suffice on a windows box, or should I start looking for something else?

edit: None of my PC's support hardware virtualizaiton :(
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] hoss_n2:
i want to ask the developers about a thing but please no insults as usual ,is the bootloader still locked and we cannot flash un signed roms as what is said here allot of times(android root only ) or it is a full root .thanks
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] arj154:
wow that s awsum news! well done dev team!!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] McKebapp:
At the moment, and as far as I understood its just android...
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] macr59:
Please take time to read the posts. Post #301 is one of the many that tell you what and what not has been done.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] mangiant:
a) Your PC doesn't need hardware virtualization to run Linux in a VM.

b) There will be almost 0 situations where a virtualized linux box is required over linux on a physical box.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] :
You misinterpreted my post. I never said it's my app, and I never said it flashes unsigned files ;).

@ddewbofh - I am thankful for all the developers that contributed to rooting the X10. By the looks of things this was a hard phone to root (if it is really done), but again - nothing is unhackable, it just takes time (and the right people).

Although images of the root access are uploaded, I still don't believe in root. I am just the kind of a person that needs real info (the method) to believe. Others may only need an image, or just a little note saying root is done (1st root by jerpelea). I hope the exploit, or hole in the loader, can be used for other Android SEMC phones.

I would also like to thank McKebapp for hosting the private forum which allowed developers to share information without going through dozens of pages including non-development posts.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Numsefis:
I was wondering what the android root can give us?, will it allow to install never versions? or does that require a rooted bootloader?

But very nice work guys :)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] biktor_gj:
No problem hoss_n2 ;) At this point we have the userland. Bootloader is still uncracked, and recovery image too. We're trying to make those partitions show to dump them and to put, at least recovery, on its place again, this time rooted. We'll see what we can do ;)

My idea would be to not touch bootloader until we get a developer cert, but root recovery and make it like all the rest of phones, upgradeable from the sd.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Tejstar:
What does FS stand for in these benchmarks?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Serapth:
Wild guess here, but I imagine File System.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] zephyrix:
filesystem
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Tejstar:
Ok, cheers guys! :)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] SGK128:
great timing! Google just said 2.2 Froyo will be out today. Thanks Guys!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] jojosplace:
I like the comment is marked in the same colour as the forum background (select text in the above quote to read);

:rolleyes:
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Britt78:
Thank´s for the status update!

Kudos!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] manajui:
Now i can finally buy this thing. i guss i'm more happy about rooting it than just buying it. thanks guys. well done
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] nekkidtruth:
Thankfully I already have a virtual box running linux woot! Once again, awesome work to the devs.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] HunteronX:
If you have a linux distro already installed on a separate partition (e.g. ubuntu) can you use that to perform the root process?

Also, if you want a recovery image to be put the phone eventually, maybe speak to the evo 4g people who made 'unrevoked' as the buttons used within that phone are similar to the X10, so I suppose it could be ported easily - there's no trackball on the evo 4g either.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Bin4ry:
Why not?

The reason for a vmbox is that every user can use it even if he don't know how to install a unix system ;)

So as i wrote in first post: DON'T BOTHER :D

I believe you that it's hard, but please let us work a little more.

Regards

Bin4ry
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] cashaw:
Well done all !

Others, please wait for these guys to refine and document the process. Now that they have the ability to access the X10 as root,no doubt they will discover easier ways for the rest of us to get to root...

Either way, there seems to be alot of people on this forum who do not understand what 'root' is.... In itself it does not enable us to do anything, produce and load new roms etc, but it does allow those who know to investigate the full potential of the device.....(potentially..)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] HunteronX:
I thought so - just checking... :o

I'll leave now - but good luck!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] ddewbofh:
Please, for all that is good in the world. Don't use any Ubuntuisms, like semi-borked apt-stuff. Think of the children :)

I possible do a release in a simple tar.xz format with any deps listed in the INSTALL file.

Kthxbai :)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] lqbweb:
im on a very hard step along this year, i'd like to help u in a java application
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] samygent:
good thing about virtual is we can all use the same working image on any kind of computer and none should have problems rooting their phone ( if they fellow the process )
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Bin4ry:
So LordPhoenix wrote me e-mail just now.

He said i don't want that he releases root at all!

That is right i said that he should not release anything until mini pro was released. But also i asked for files / information and i didn't get anything.

He said that he must tune his stuff and then get me informed.

Or just send a picture to proof or anything.

He hisself said that he will proof it in a few days (in his postings this one day he claimed root). And nothing ever came. Not even a small pic.

I never heard from him again. Even after i wrote again an email.

So here is the deal:

I have NO PROBLEM with it when he was first and it was only a misunderstanding!

So pants off now. Show the root! Give us a image and post public / private (like you want) how you done this!

IF he really got root before! I have really no problem to say that this is true!

Is it a deal?

Regards
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] ddewbofh:
Yeah, everyone knows it's all BS by now so I wouldn't hold my breath. :)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Bin4ry:
don't say that. I want to hear a answer from Mrraelis or LordPhoenix. I really want this to be clear !

Regards

Bin4ry
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] :
Third time lucky, I hope so anyway. Having another look at the X10 rooted screenshots I can confirm that the screenshots come from an X10 device since the height:breadth ratios are kept.

PS. Where is LordPhoenix? I havent seen him posting for a while.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Mraellis:
Yo dude. The FTP is playing up so he's gonna deal with it in the morning (despite me saying that gives people a night to assume he's lying but eh he's never one for caring what people think).

Glad to see you are not like the normal crowd Bin4ry in jumping straight to whining. I will iterate however that I am his roomie who helps out and as per

your request

I haven't been allowed to see much. So its not "they" its "he".

I will however say the reason you didnt get files off him earlier is because I have followed the PSP scene to long and cannot trust anyone. Sorry if that was wrong/daft I just know what backstabbing people are on the net and I didnt want him messed around but it seems the people here are less like that or which I am glad.

Thats my mishap if its made you misbelieve him or think bad. :(

To the people complaining; he has been wanting to show something for a little while but as bin4ry has said he told him not to and when they sort it out i'm sure you will be informed.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Bin4ry:
Hah have you really thought that we photoshopped it ? ^^

But okay, now you know we haven't made it.

LordPhoenix said he will show me tomorrow how he has done and gets me everything.

Lets wait and see.

Regards

Bin4ry
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Bin4ry:
Lets see. But one point!

I only said DON'T release. I never said DON'T show anything. I for myself just wanted a proof from him aswell and never got one. Just one pic would have been enough at all! No informations nothing just one pic :) But never got it.

But i've no problems with anything. If he was first then we was second. I've no prob with that!

We will see tomorrow when his ftp is up again. I'm just waiting for some proof and if he really done good ! Then he claims the pot and the glory. I'm fine with everything :)

Regards