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[HTC Aria General] msgnyc:
anyone tried aNetShare yet?

Was my preferred tethering app on the Magic.

Not available from Marketplace and root required.

http://android.a0soft.com/?url=aNetShare.htm
[HTC Aria General] eugene373:
Guys try this app again... But enable Mac Filtering..
[HTC Aria General] attn1:
Tried all authentications. No go. I think the DHCP server services are missing.
[HTC Aria General] eugene373:
Do a Pull of you config.gz file, I want to check somthing over to make sure..
[HTC Aria General] attn1:
Sure. Where is it?

I did more playing, it eventually doles out an IP, but it doesn't route anywhere. It looks like the wifi network is not routed to the 3g network.
[HTC Aria General] attn1:
Here's the file you're looking for, eugene.

Looking forward to a custom kernel. I think the answer to tether may be in a kernel mod.
[HTC Aria General] harry_m:
Guys. Try this:

http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/wiki/Setup_HTC_Desire_Incredible

Looks like the aria is using a broadcom-chipset (bcm4329) - and there is a high chance that this workaround will work.

Use wireless tether 2.0.2 or higher!
[HTC Aria General] attn1:
Nope, tried that already.
[HTC Aria General] harry_m:
Are you sure the firmware is loaded from the sdcard?

You see that in the first entry when you open "Show log".

Screenshot of "Show log": http://bit.ly/amVP9l
[HTC Aria General] attn1:
Yes. Eventually, DHCP doles out ipaddy, subnet and gateway info, but it doesn't work. You can't ping the gateway and you aren't going anywhere.
[HTC Aria General] harry_m:
So, you get an ip-address (something like 192.168.2.100) but you are not able to ping the gateway (which is 192.168.2.254) from the client?

Have you tried with some real devices (and not only with apple-toys)?
[HTC Aria General] attn1:
Of course. WINXP laptop, MAC laptop and a WIN7 laptop. All those work fine on other Android builds.
[HTC Aria General] harry_m:
Mmmh. It's a surprise that above mentioned workaround does not work (because it does on the HTC Incredible and HTC Desire).

So, you get an ipaddress (which one?) but you are not able to ping the gateway (192.168.2.254)? Are you able to ping the client from your phone?
[HTC Aria General] attn1:
I forgot the ip, but it was on the 192.168.2 subnet. I think AT&T did some damage somewhere. I think they are filtering somewhere - maybe there is firewall between devices that you unlock with their software - for a price.

I don't think a ported ROM will have this problem.
[HTC Aria General] harry_m:
No, i think we have another issue here.

Could you please do now these ping-test mentioned above? Please check if the client-pc is pingable from the handset (and vice versa)! Thanks.
[HTC Aria General] attn1:
Well, I was getting an address during one run. I believe it was 192.168.2.100. However - I could not ping the gateway at 192.168.2.254, nor could I ping the laptop from the phone.

At this point, I am back to DHCP failing again, and the PC never picks up an ip from the phone's dhcp service.

Oh and the wireless-tether log looks fine. There are no errors.

but here's a logcat from just before I started the tether - it tells another story:
[HTC Aria General] hkronald:
DHCP not working!?

It is connected, but when I check the status form my laptop, it say the IP is an Automatic Private Address......
[HTC Aria General] Cobus:
So has anyone got this to work on an Aria?
[HTC Aria General] attn1:
Not yet. Even if we can't sort this out on the supplied ROM, I have hope for the first good AOSP ported rom.
[HTC Aria General] eortizr:
so no current method to achieve wifi tethering on the Aria?
[HTC Aria General] attn1:
not yet. it will come.
[HTC Aria General] sfernandez:
I GOT Tethering working

I installed Easy Tether and downloaded the drivers for my computer here

http://www.mobile-stream.com/easytether/android.html. I shut off my wireless internet and went to ip chicken 2 verify and gave me my ip from mycingular.net :D
[HTC Aria General] attn1:
Yup, USB tethering works. It's wifi tethering we're working on.
[HTC Aria General] sfernandez:
OH Lol..I knew that...I just wanted to see if you remembered..Sorry
[HTC Aria General] killsudo:
attn1,

Also was there any progress in getting the wifi chip in ad-hoc mode?

Have you had any luck replacing netfilter and ensuring that the proper rules are in place to forward traffic to the correct interfaces?
[HTC Aria General] attn1:
Wifi tether loads a kernel module that supports adhoc mode with the Incredible hack. Netfilter is enabled in the kernel config file, so I am still not sure what's going on.

FYI, the Legend AOSP port we have and a wildfire port I did that I was able to get WIFI working in, neither supported the Wireless Tether application.

I must have missed documentation/where to figure out what the rules are and should be for traffic forwarding in Android.
[HTC Aria General] sfernandez:
has anyone tried this one yet?

http://slideme.org/application/tetherwifi
[HTC Aria General] timtucker:
My $.02

FWIW, I can tell you that I have had no problems using the WiFi tether on my AT&T flavored Nexus One. ( both on Android 2.1-U1 and now on 2.2 ) The only thing I can think they might be doing is some trickery based on the device's IMEI. ( but I highly doubt that ) I'm going to add my efforts to this project just as soon as I can get my hands on an Aria. ( maybe as soon as this weekend ) And don't bother asking why I want an Aria when I have an N1 already... my mind just isn't quite right. :-)
[HTC Aria General] attn1:
Works on my N1 too. I also have an Aria. I like the Aria - a lot.
[HTC Aria General] _Opiate_:
I have a Nexus One and a HTC Aria lol. I love this little guy too. It's a fun little phone.
[HTC Aria General] timtucker:
Didn't have any luck with the Barnacle tethering app either. ( so far ) The error is "failed to set AP_SCAN"
[HTC Aria General] killsudo:
I am still working on tethering and it apprears to be an arp issue with the aria but I haven't figured out if its kernel or wifi firmware thats keeping arp on the aria from responding properly. I have a couple more tests for today and attn1 built me a kernel with AP mode enabled.

I'll try to post any updates later.
[HTC Aria General] pantheis:
Killsudo, any updates on your progress? I'm sure I'm not the only one at the edge of my seat wondering what this will take to get working :)
[HTC Aria General] DFWGringo:
Any luck?

I have read on other threads that they have gotten Barnacle wifi tethering working, but I can't get it working.
[HTC Aria General] tpbklake:
Tethered WiFi is working on the Aria. See this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=733230

Regards,

Tom
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bombardier0:
I do not have the ability to enter my device's bootloader. camera+power does nothing but turn the device on. I can still enter recovery, but cannot get to bootloader. Im running dmd64 1.6. I have all the necessary files to downgrade to RC29 to enable root access, but without access to bootloader is this impossible? Any ideas on a possible fix? I tried using ADB to access bootloader, but doesn't that require a rooted device? Thanks in advance!
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] theartar:
How to root:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=442480
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bombardier0:
Thank you, but i know how to root. My problem is that for whatever reason, my bootloader does not appear when i turn on the phone while holding the camera and the power button. I need to know if there are any alternatives to using the bootloader, or to access the bootloader, as the usual shortcut does not work for my phone. (g1)
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] theartar:
Sorry, I misunderstood you.

I was searching around for an answer and on the Cyanogen wiki it says:

Unfortunately my will to help is superceding my knowledge at this point, so hopefully someone will step in with an idea.

What did ADB tell you when you ran the ADB reboot bootloader command? Did you get a permission denied error?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] l1k3m1k3:
I can't find the way. :(
[Hero CDMA General] sheagk:
So a friend of mine recently picked up a new phone, and elected to get the Moment. I've seen people trash the Moment on these boards, but can I get some clear reasons why he should switch to the Hero or pony up the extra hundred bucks for an Evo?

It's his first smartphone, and he's not particularly tied to either the camera or the keyboard, but he's not a particularly easy guy to convince of something. Thanks.
[Hero CDMA General] nebenezer:
The moment is the only android phone I would classify as a functional brick.

No offense to those who dig it. I like a physical kb too but the moments kb is (imo) a very poor design. Also, slider phones that don't tilt at all just don't feel natural to type on.

The thing is huge width wise too. I don't use a holster or belt clip, I keep my phone in my front left pants pocket. The evo is enormous but it's thin, fits in my pocket perfectly.
[Hero CDMA General] unCoRrUpTeD:
http://androidforums.com/samsung-moment/33738-why-do-people-prefer-sprint-htc-hero-over-samsung-moment.html
[Hero CDMA General] Jus10o:
Good thread.. but its a little outdated.

Now we have OC kernels that run 32mhz slower then the moment, not much of a difference. Also we have darchdroid, basic android system like the moment has, so its not "laggy" because of sense UI. Also the hero has this site for support, which gives it a huge community.

The Evo.. thats a whole nother story, i would get one in a heart beat if i could. And soon any kinks/bugs will be worked out, specially if you are rooted flashing custom roms, which are worlds better then htc.

We had one guy from here (xda) get a moment (they didnt have a replacement hero for him). And he was ok with it at first, about a month later, he absolutely hated his Moment and wanted to get a Hero again. He has a thread somewhere about it.
[Hero CDMA General] Thomas1218:
Why I dont like the moment is a personal and hardware standpoint. My pet peeve is when the spacebar divides up the keyboard so that drives me insane but that is complete personal bias
[Hero CDMA General] Kcarpenter:
4 things you look at from an engineering stand point.

0. Accessibility - It doesn't have to provide desired effects, just USEFUL effects. The battery life (when I had one) was horrid - 5 hours max on a battery charge. Meaning when battery is dead - it doesn't even provide useful data.

1. Reliability - It does what it is supposed to do. When you need it to do it.

Again the battery, and its random CDMA lock ups that require a reboot.

2. Safety - this stands on its own. It can't get anyone hurt.

The thing is a brick, it would cause some sort of back injury lugging that heavy thing around.

3. Security - varies for different things.

this is a cell phone...all are pretty insecure when someone has physical access, not moment specific. But I figured I would throw in the 4th one. And when you get pissed off at it and sling it out a window and someone finds it - it become insecure.

Of course all IMHO.
[Hero CDMA General] Powers16:
The moment will always have its place in my heart.... next to my mother in law and the red headed step child

/sarcasm
[Hero CDMA General] neuro_genesis:
My girlfriend has the moment and absolutely loves it. She has always loved Samsung phones though.

I told her she could always use it to break a window if needed.
[Hero CDMA General] Kcarpenter:
That was the one benefit I out weighed with the Hero and the Moment.

With the Hero, if I ever drive my car into the lake and need to call 911 -i'd be dead before the dialer started up. However with the moment which also had similar things happen - I could just break the window.
[Hero CDMA General] gunnyman:
Lets see, I owned a moment for 3 weeks and just went back to the Hero.

My quibbles with the Moment

1) battery life is PITIFUL

2) the phone is very heavy

3) The phone randomly would have data lockups where EVDO would just QUIT working, but the phone wouldn't indicate there was a problem with signal, only fix is reboot

4) The battery indicator software is pathetic, it would show 80% for like 4 hours then just DIE. Even with tweaks the battery code would only show increments in 5%.

5) There is no XDA portal for the Moment.
[Hero CDMA General] jerry43812:
That's because forums with a large presence like this can often sway users form one phone to the next.

My personal experience with the Moment is even though it has a stronger processor it does lack a bit of the umph that the Hero has, but I just don't think the right people have their hands on the kernels and ROMs and such, so the Moment may never be as badass as the Hero in terms of its modifications and things. You can easily make or break a phone's popularity by just the hands that the phone is in.
[Hero CDMA General] atoz350:
Are you saying there will be???

j/k
[Hero CDMA General] sheagk:
Ah, this is great. Thanks for your responses guys.
[Hero CDMA General] gunnyman:
The best reason to stick with the Hero is the Dev community. The moment and hero are dead as far as further support/software improvements from sprint. The Devs here with the addition of Cyanogen's team will help insure the Hero is a great phone for a lot longer than the handful of devs on the Moment.
[Hero CDMA General] markus_del_marko:
I almost bought the moment because it looked like a nicer phone to me. But the day i went to sprint they were out of them so i got a hero instead. I don't regret it but id love a phone will a hardware keyboard. The moment doesn't have alot of development for it.
[G1 Accessories] darksonic:
Hello there. I recently purchased the Seido 1400mAh battery and it came in today. I turned off my phone and popped in the new battery and turned it back on. From what I read about battery calibrating, I let the phone die and then plugged it in to charge. I wanted to check on it after charging for a few hours, only to find that it won't turn on. The red light kind of flashes when I push the power button. If I put my old battery back in it turns on just fine.

Any idea?
[G1 Accessories] darksonic:
So I let it "charge" over night and still had the same issue. I was able to get into Android today but after a few minutes it just shut off. The battery has never gone above 0%.

Could this be a defective battery? The reason I bought a new battery is because the stock one is bulging and doesn't hold a charge, but it charges just fine in the phone.
[G1 Accessories] Ace42:
The batt is defiantly defective and needs to be replaced if possible
[G1 Accessories] darksonic:
I just got my replacement battery in the mail and it isn't charging either. This just doesn't make sense. It shouldn't be my phone because the stock battery charges just fine...
[HTC Aria General] cropythy:
Does any else have a battery cover that creaks a bit when you put pressure near the top of the right side? I am sure its just due to the fact its plastic instead of metal, but its one of those little things that will bother the hell out of me if I am the only one who has this problem...
[HTC Aria General] Knifey:
Mine seems totally fine, I just tried to get it to creak with no luck. Do you have a screen protector that it may be rubbing on?
[HTC Aria General] Joesalad21:
I noticed it too. I guess as long as it doesn't slip off easily, it should be fine.
[HTC Aria General] prata:
I haven't noticed this; however, in order to take the cover off for your SIM, battery, and sdcard; the right side of the phone is a pressure point (at least on my phone) to help free it from the clips holding it in place when you want to pull it up. Mine doesn't creak, but I do notice if I put some pressure on it there is a bit of give. HTH.
[HTC Aria General] KB Smoka:
A little bit off topic but yesterday I rooted my girlfriends Aria and I automatically took the back cover off because I thought the procedure would be similar to my Incredible. After I was done with the root I left the back cover off and tried to make calls and send texts but nothing worked. I had no service until I put the cover back on. When I looked a little further it seemed like there were two contacts on the back cover that must serve some purpose. Is this true?

I was a little shook for a minute....Thought I ruined her phone!
[HTC Aria General] kiefferr:
The antenna is in the back cover...
[HTC Aria General] KB Smoka:
Well there ya go....thanks.
[HTC Aria General] Cronis:
yea mines pretty solid no creaks
[HTC Aria General] tak27:
I have the same problem with mine. It's on the same side too. I got a case from the ATT store and its gone away. Makes the phone more sturdy for me
[HTC Aria General] eortizr:
I have the same issue ,, but in the top left corner... it is really annoying...
[HTC Aria General] Angry_Radish:
Yep, top right corner creaking here :)

As many times as I've had the back cover off swapping between SD cards though it was only a matter of time.
[EVO 4G General] ffolkes:
the evo (and incredible) use an Atmel mXT224 touchscreen controller that boasts some impressive features, including unlimited multitouch point support.

however on every test i run, my evo is consistently locked at recognizing only two points at any given time. we know for a fact the physical hardware (the mXT224) can support many, many more. am i the first one to notice this?

and on top of that, as reported by another poster, Input Benchmark shows the detection rate is capped at a very low 30Hz.

has htc cut corners yet again? :/
[EVO 4G General] nebenezer:
Very interesting find but I have to say in the last 6 months of touchscreen ownership I haven't had the desire to touch the screen in more than 2 spots.

Sincerely curious what kind of scenario would call for more than 2 touch points on a 4.3" screen?
[EVO 4G General] ffolkes:
not entirely sure myself lol. but i'd imagine keyboard applications, music applications, etc. obviously atmel saw the need to develop a highly advanced controller chip - and it appears htc was too lazy to make a driver to fully support it.
[EVO 4G General] nebenezer:
You might be on to something with the keyboard point.

I was thinking more towards larger devices where you, or maybe more than one person play a game or manipulate pictures simultaneously.

I dunno. This device is so friggin amazing I am a-ok with the few "opportunities for improvement" that have been found so far. But I do think its great everyone is exploring it so thoroughly.
[EVO 4G General] nenn:
i agree with the question of, why are you going to be using more than two inputs at any given moment. im trying to think of cool applications, but they can all use two inputs instead of >2.

a combination "lock" to unlock the phone, yeah you COULD use 3,4 fingers to "turn" the dial, but you can do it with 1, so why the added work?
[EVO 4G General] DaytonaZ33:
If I remember correctly, unlimited points of contact is supported by the chip, but Android is only programmed to recognize up to 2. The sensor supports so many points of contact because the same sensor can be used to power a device up to 10" I believe. So unlimited touch is there for devices with bigger screens who might benefit from more than 2 points of contact.
[EVO 4G General] Geniusdog254:
Actually Android supports up to 3 simultaneous touch points and no more. That will probably change in a future update, but as of now thats how it stands. Its most likely because the coder of the app didn't handle it right.

And this post actually gives me an idea. How epic would it be to have an actual combination lock you turned with 2 fingers & entered a password!
[EVO 4G General] nebenezer:
That WOULD be cool!
[EVO 4G General] eburnette:
Need for >2 fingers

How about a piano program, or even a guitar chording program. Most people use more than 2 fingers when playing the piano. Try Sonic Mule's Magic Piano on the iPad to see what's possible with 10 fingers. For a piano duet, with one person on each side of the screen, you'd need to support 20 fingers. For a table-sized display with several people working around it (think MS Surface), you'd need unlimited fingers.
[EVO 4G General] nebenezer:
excellent point!!
[EVO 4G General] nenn:
lol it didnt GIVE you an idea, it WAS the idea.

so far the only answer that ill give credit to is the piano app, the guitar chord app is kinda silly, youre not going to try and play a chord on the phone, you can just select the frets and it can tell you what the chord is. it would be silly to see people "playing" guitar on their phone.

ive started android development so perhaps ill write the combo lock screen myself.
[EVO 4G General] kaossssoak:
Super Mario world > 2

That being said, I have no problem with my emulator recognizing 3 touch points, although it is a bit sketchy but I think that's just the emu
[EVO 4G General] nenn:
its a phone, not a ***** SNES.

ive noticed people here want 100% control of their device, even if they wont use it, and WILL complain and cry and try to get out of their contract for it.

its sad really.
[EVO 4G General] kaossssoak:
Lol, what is your problem man? Here I thought we were just discussing what kind of things would require more than 2 buttons. So off the top of my head I mentioned that. I really hope that rude comment was not implicated at me, as I was not *****ing about it, was merely saying that would take more than 2 buttons. Damn.

Take a chill pill. Gotta be all hateful and ****
[EVO 4G General] muncheroo:
in Chrono Trigger (old SNES game) I was playing on SNESOID, there is a part of the game where you have to hold down 3 keys at once to open a door. I was about to shoot myself until I found out you can assign all 3 keys to a single physical button :cool:
[EVO 4G General] muncheroo:
sounds like you need an iphone
[EVO 4G General] nenn:
perhaps it was a bit harsh, but you have a phone, its not a computer, its not a video game system. yeah sure it has emulators and you CAN run games, but as a whole lets be serious here and the majorty of people will not use more than 2 fingers at a time.

if i want to play games, ill play on my ps3, if i want to play piano, ill play one where i have access to one (which i dont off hand, but i dont play piano)

its a smart phone, not a laptop replacement.
[EVO 4G General] Mast3rpyr0:
2 player Guitar Hero like games would need at least 4 fingers, and possibly more just so if one player put down 3 fingers it wouldn't screw the other player over.
[EVO 4G General] prestonr83:
Nothing wrong with exploring new features. If all the devs thought like you android wouldn't be progressing as fast as it has and wouldnt have nearly the amount of cool features as it does now.
[EVO 4G General] itmustbejj:
This kind of thinking is what kills innovation.
[EVO 4G General] nenn:
if all devs thought like me the dumbass dev that didnt write the software correctly in the first place would have properly handled it.

im a developer.

my main point is, and its the last ill comment on the subject, that you have a phone, granted its a very powerful system and has great potential, and you should treat it as a phone. new features are great and i welcome them and all the stuff the devs do, but at the end of the day, a phone is a phone is a phone.
[EVO 4G General] prestonr83:
That's your opinion. But IMHO to call an android phone just a phone is totally incorrect. If that were true then all the new features of android and the hardware being developed now wouldn't include full web,flash support, GPS, integration with social networks and email, mobile gaming, video, radio and the list goes on. An android phone is much more than just a phone and it will continue to advance and bridge the gap between laptops and desktops offering more and more functionality and features as time goes on.

Oh and apparently the dev did think like you. He must have thought it was pointless as do you and hence didn't write the software to support it.
[EVO 4G General] myndwire:
ever since the touch chip was debuted spec-wise before the evo was even released, i've been excited about having this chip in my phone. it's definitely a good idea to start digging into allowing at least 3 touch presences on our screens, if for anything, the sheer capability. music programs would benefit a lot from this, as well as a plethora of other things. hell, i'd love to 3-finger swipe in apps. that functionality would be KILLER...