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[Liquid S100 Android Development] alan090:
as you notice i did a froyo rom and also http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=724232

this one was discontinued after I switched to the galaxy theme
[Desire General] marmin:
I know its been asked but the answers are very fragmented, so my question is:-

If I'm on Orange, and I've not rooted or unrooted or whatever, do I have to wait for the Desire update, then HTC to play, Then Orange to play?

If so how long is this gonna take from when the Froyo for Desire update is released?

Please dont drag this thread into a when is Froyo gonna be released debate as thats why I'm hvaing to create a new thread in the first place.
[Desire General] AndroHero:
as a rule HTC generally dont release there standard update in a region untill all of there branded roms are ready too :confused: atleast that was one of the reasons htc gave for the late hero eclair update
[Desire General] roscoe141:
I am in exactly the same position as you. I have a unrooted, Ornage branded Desire and I really want Froyo asap.#

Will I get it OTA or will I have to wait for Orange or should I just de-brand and get it OTA?

I have no idea.. :confused:
[Desire General] GANJDROID:
That makes no sense to me. All firmware updates are ota, regardless on branding. Non branded phones tend to get sent first. All depends what your carrier has added to the phone.

Prime example: T-Mobile delayed the initial release of Desires because they fecked up their phones with **** they added.
[Desire General] roscoe141:
The point is, even if there is an Froyo OTA update for our phones I might not get mine as it's branded to Orange for another few months...
[Desire General] rockykabir:
Here is a another thing - as I have an Orange Desire (no modifications - i.e. not flashed and no custom rom), can I unlock the phone from something like HTCCODE and update to Froyo using the official HTC OTA sometime this weekend?

.....but I'm guessing it's not as simple as that?
[Desire General] steve228uk:
You'd only have to make a goldcard and flash with a WWE ROM. It'll take about 30 minutes all told.
[Desire General] Echinox:
Question what do you guys understand by branded Orange phone? My Orange Desire has an official HTC ROM if I'm not mistaking, when I open my phone it's load screen says HTC and I don't have any Orange menus or **** on it, it's only network lock. Now the real question will I get the update or not? THX.
[Desire General] GANJDROID:
1) Your phone isn't branded

2) Everyone will get the update.
[Desire General] langers1:
My phones locked to orange using a custom 2.1 Rom. Ive avoided changing to 2.2 as it is locked to orange so cant flash the radio. Does the OTA release upgrade the radio and as such will this activate the sim lock?
[Desire General] SiL3nTKiLL:
oh not bad!
[Desire General] bedeabc:
Hopefully this should make it clear to everyone....

If you're on an Orange branded ROM, you will not get this update until Orange has fannied around making all of its useless, proprietary junk applications compatible with Froyo. That could take weeks, but will likely take months.

To get this OTA update as soon it's released:

Make a goldcard and insert it into your phone.

Flash a stock rom using an RUU executable (1.15 NOT 1.21)

Wait for HTC to release the update.

In theory, it should be possible to get hold of the new ROM before the mass rollout once someone has captured the link to the file on HTC's servers. This is work in progress (See dev section). As soon as that is found, it will be rooted and posted for mass consumption on this forum.

langers1 mentioned flashing radios causing a simlock on Orange devices. Flashing the 5.09 radio does not cause this problem. I and many others have shown this to be the case.
[Desire General] dallholio:
Really?

If I updated my radio and for whatever reason it did simlock, could I flash my radio back to an older one to unlock it, or would I need to pay to get an unlock code?
[Desire General] bramble:
just reflash an older radio
[Desire General] lyno:
This is what I have done, but I don't think I will be able to update to FroYo before I first update to 1.21.

What will happen if i try to update to the latest OTA 1.21?
[Desire General] dallholio:
Just flashed ..5.09 radio and can confirm my Rooted Orange branded didn't simlock. Going to flash my Rom a lot for the first time in weeks ;)

Good thread, clears up confusion
[Desire General] langers1:
OMG thanks bedeabc, Ive been wanting to use Froyo with sense since it came out but thought I couldnt cos my phone was not unlocked, u r the man, thanks so much flashing in a few :).
[Desire General] stats101:
What do these different radio versions mean?
[Desire General] andybondy:
By the power of Grayskull......

I will have the (FroYo) Power!!!

I am planning to root my Orange branded Desire, cos I am not prepared to wait for Orange to release the OTA for Froyo in their own sweet time.

There is just one thing I dont understand. If I root, my version stays at 2.1.

I plan to then load a custom ROM, with A2SD, etc as Android 2.2.

But what if I decide I dont want it any more and I want to go back to my original software?

I have seen stock ROM's but Orange's ROM isnt there. How do I turn my own ROM into a recoverable ROM?

I have spent all day looking through XDA, modaco and google for answers....

Or am I missing something really obvious?

Thanks

Andy
[Desire General] bedeabc:
I made a slight oversight in my post above. We're not yet sure, but it could be the case that you have to be running a 1.21 ROM in order to receive the Froyo update. However, the 1.21 OTA update comes with a radio which DOES cause a simlock on Orange devices.

However, I believe that there are 1.21 ROMs available in stickies on this forum that don't have a radio update bundled. Flashing one of these would be the best option for unrooted Orange users to get the update ASAP. It's unlikely that the 5.09 radio will cause problems for those with rooted Desires, so that should be ok too.

However, it's likely that the update will be bundled with a new version of HBOOT which could make rooting impossible. Only get the update OTA if you're sure you'll never want to root your Desire. I for one will be waiting for someone here to patch the update with SU permissions :)

@stats101

Radios are software packages that interface between your specific phone's hardware and Android OS. Think of them as driver bundles.

@langers1

Glad to be of help ;)
[Desire General] stats101:
Thank You :D

So certain radio updates don't work with certain networks? I've read things about people 3g connection not working too well after updates... is this related to the radio version? if i was to unlock it, can i install whatever radio version i want? (sorry for throwing more questions at you).
[Desire General] mglancy23:
just seems to be orange at the moment! but further down the line other radios and different network could cause issues

i had my phone sim locked yesterday! i just got a code of ebay to unlock it completly! but you can just change the radio! i just did not want the hassle of doing it :D
[Desire General] faster4233:
Thicker than a railway sleeper ????

Hi,

So all i need to do is:

Make a goldcard and insert it into your phone.

Flash a stock rom using an RUU executable (1.15 NOT 1.21)

Wait for HTC to release the update.

And i dont have to root it or anything?

I think im slowly getting the gist of all this but im still totally confused about a few things.

I have an Orange Desire, and all i want to do is get it to Stock HTC totally unbranded so i can upgrade to 2.2 and get rid of the usless Orange stuff. No custom ROMs.

If i take a stock HTC Desire rom and flash it to the phone why would it sim lock? Surly SIM FREE phones dont have this issue? and if it does SIM lock cant i just call orange to have it unlocked?

Also

what does OTA mean?

Can i backup my Current ROM to restore later?

Does anyone know which stock ROM i should be using?

As you can guess im new to this and i dont entirely understand the guides :P

Thanks :D
[Desire General] mikecoffee:
So all i need to do is:

Make a goldcard and insert it into your phone.

Flash a stock rom using an RUU executable (1.15 NOT 1.21)

Wait for HTC to release the update.

And i dont have to root it or anything?

You need to root to flash roms, and if your asking this why not root.

I think im slowly getting the gist of all this but im still totally confused about a few things.

I have an Orange Desire, and all i want to do is get it to Stock HTC totally unbranded so i can upgrade to 2.2 and get rid of the usless Orange stuff. No custom ROMs.

If i take a stock HTC Desire rom and flash it to the phone why would it sim lock? Surly SIM FREE phones dont have this issue? and if it does SIM lock cant i just call orange to have it unlocked?

Orange are the strictest operator and pain,!

Also

what does OTA mean?

Over the air

Can i backup my Current ROM to restore later?

You could back up your setting or do a nandroid

Does anyone know which stock ROM i should be using?

Use the unbranded unlocked roms

As you can guess im new to this and i dont entirely understand the guides :P

Thanks
[Desire General] mglancy23:
OTA means over the air! you don't need to download the update to a pc and sync it over like older phones. update downloads to your device and restarts installing the update. it can be found via settings, about phone, system software updates, check now

not too sure to be honest! all the roms are available to download again from the sticky in the development section! there is not a orange rom so am guessing you cant take an image of a rom yet

probably best not to try and play about with your phone if you are not 100% on what you are doing and to wait for orange to release the 2.2 update.

RUU_Bravo_HTC_WWE_1.15.405.4_Radio_32.30.00.28U_4. 05.00.11_release_122704.exe is the stock rom i used! be warned if you are on orange and you then update to 1.21 you will lock your phone. changing the radio or buying an unlock code will fix this
[Desire General] mikecoffee:
Orange have always been an issue with HTC phones with the touch 3g they disabled the wifi option, on hero they restricted the radios..... bloody orange.

That why I buy all my phones unlocked and unbranded
[Desire General] mglancy23:
yeah! i had an orange touch hd and once i put the offical rom on it was so much faster.

cant remember its name think its htc touch! orange had wrecked the wifi on it! took a few minutes to get it working. they removed the connection manager and replaced it with some orange connect type software.

glad i have finally flashed to a stock rom! if you have not already done it here is what i have found:

more space! no additional orange software

browser seems better and faster

device seems slightly faster

better battery life

i can now get the update to 2.2
[Desire General] andybondy:
Eureka!

So Now I get it!

I need to: Root phone - backup via Nandroid. Copy Nandroid folder to a safe place on my PC. Then Im open to replace the Orange OS with my Android de jour.

If I change my mind then I restore the OS via my Nandroid Backup - and unroot.

Sounds simple in theory (heheh.)

Now to make a gold card.
[Desire General] faster4233:
Thanks for the replies guys

I understand theres a risk, but you have to learn by doing :P and if the worst happens i will run it over with the car and claim on the house insurance :P then buy a loverly unlocked one.

Its only about £10 to unlock the sim so would it be worth going to 1.21? is there any actual advantage in doing that and then unlocking it?

Also if i can sucessfully get it running on the new ROM would it then start reciving standard HTC updates? and does the gold car have to stay in the phone?

Thanks
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] larbac:
Hi all,

I notice this behaviour on my new desire:

Plug the desire to wall charger and I leave over night. It does show that it charged 100%. But if I unplug the ac adapter cable the percentage drops. It does not drops always to the same amount.

It looks like to me that the battery stopped charging when it got to 100 and then pnly wuen I unplug frpm adapter it updates.the status. Plus if plug it in the ac after again it will start the normal charge cycle from whatever % it was.

I have hard reset on the phone and charged using my pc. Seemed ok. But today in morning same behaviour.

Any ideas?

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[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Flaggie:
Did you recently update your phone to the new version?

(see known issue in this thread )
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] larbac:
Hi,

I nave updated my previous htc but was not aware of this behaviour. Due to the pink issue I got my HTC replaced. This one already came with the latest updates.

I have noticed that if I remove the power cable right after charging finish then I get it right. If I leave it pneumonia charger (normally over night) when I unplug power displays 100% but after.seconds it will show 95%.

I have done couple of rests but does not seem to work. Any ideas or opinions?
[HD2 General] ericm115:
Hello friends. I have had my hd2 for about a month and a half now and I have not gotten close to it. My last phone purchase before the hd2 was the g1. I fell for that phone in about an hour. I felt it was at that tome the best phone I had ever had and it was nice and snappy. I had it for 2 years and had no issues ever. Then the touch screen got numbed and it decided to work on and off. I was going to run out and get a new one but I decided that I should just get a newer model. I knew it was going to be htc but the hd2 rePly stuck out foe me. Huge screen Wich felt good in my bear claw hands. And it is so sexy. Hardware is top of the line. I thought I was golden foe at least another 2 years. Yea right. I can't stand this phone. The touch input is not responsive enough to let me type at the speed I feel comfortabl at. And the web browser is not even in the same leauge as the one on the g1. I feel that I got a phone that wasn't me. I feel so bad and it hurts bad. The problem is that I bought it cash on a whim when it was sold out all over for $600.I know a bit high but what can I do. I felt it was fair I figure two years of use is less than a dollar a day for top notch hardware was ok. But this phone is not working for me. I feel bad when I say. Windows mobile killed the hd2. Htc should release some android for this. It seems that windows mobile isn't really the best for me. It may be great but I just fell for android. Now I have this horrid phone and I don't even like it. I actually just got an iPhone 2g and I like it more. And I hate the iPhone but what can I say. I found someone who will take my hd2 and give me a 16gb 3gs and a samsung behold 2. Seems pretty good. I can sll the build for a couple dollars maybe 150 ish and then sll the 3gs for around 400 maybe and then get me a nexus one or maybe I will just hold on to th cash and wait for htc to release another great android phone for tmobile. And no the mytouch slide is not htc top for tmobile I hope. Maybe I should wait till end of summer for some special and then use my renew credit. Tmobile is my only choice. Common tmoble be tops in android again please. The only affordable provider that has 3 lines unlmt talk for $99. I can't leave them
[HD2 General] rlacsamana1989:
Sounds like Verizon is a better choice for you phone wise, and t-mobile is your choice for coverage and pricing.

Although T-mobile has some andriod phones the other carriers have the top android/droid phones other than the nexus one. Now you have to find out what one is bigger to you and then figure a solution for the other. HTC will never give this phone anroid but it might be ported by a developer. But doesn't look like any time soon.
[HD2 General] bwest411:
Its called the galaxy S. I really think its coming to tmobile just wait for it.
[HD2 General] ryan562:
x2. if you're gonna stick with t-mobile and want to stick with a device that has premium hardware like the hd2, wait for the galaxy s to come out. 4" screen, front camera, rear camera. Super AMOLED display.

i also upgraded from a both a g1 and a mytouch to an hd2. however, i'm not on the same boat as the OP of this thread. i have grown to like win mo 6.5 more and more and have made all the necessary tweaks to make the hd2 the way i want it to run and look in terms of theme and performance.

perhaps you should try flashing a rom or find the necessary .cab files such as cookie's home tab to help you change your mind about ditching this phone.
[HD2 General] bskballa92:
Exactly. I had mixed feelings about this phone when I first got it, and felt the same way you did. I paid full price for it (because of my hatred for contracts) and felt like I had made a huge mistake and instantly wanted to buy a Nexus One so I could shelf this device. But as I got more involved with the development community and tried different ROMs and 3rd party apps, I began to love it, not only is the performance better, but it is much sexier than it was. I still plan on buying a Nexus One (fandroid :) ) but by no means am I going to excommunicate myself from this device.

WinMo 6.5 was like an ugly girl with a great personality. You want nothing to do with her until you get to know her :)

But seriously, do not give up on this phone before testing everything out with it
[HD2 General] ericm115:
Thanks for the responses.

I think that i have found the main issue with my phone. I have spbshell on it and i feel restricted. I think im going to just try and make my own rom. with what suites me. I also realized that i have a phone fetish or something. In my collection i have a G1, MyTouch 3g 1.2, iPhone 2g, HTC Hero, HTC HD2, Samsung Behold 2. I have to many phones. most recent was the iPhone 2g and it is not as bad as i thought. i was thinking of getting a iPhone 4 but i cant. I need to find a way to make this hd2 work for me. I hate the battery life also. o well,i guess i could just make a small 2000mah battery pack. that would fix things.

again thanks
[HD2 General] gilla409:
Seriously dude, check out some different ROMs, and try Cookie's Home Tab. CHT actually mods the stock Sense interface, which is likely to work much better/smoother, and with less restrictions. Most of the ROMs available get rid of all the bloatware, and add speed/stability to the device.

I was in the same situation as you... and was seriously considering returning my HD2 and picking up the N1 instead. However, after installing several tweak apps and flashing Dinik & Miri's new ROM, I'm VERY satisfied. Works smooth, looks great, and has a lot of the features that I wanted from Android.

It really pays to do your homework, and spend some time modding your device... it takes time and trial/error to figure out what works best for you, but I'm sure you can get your HD2 running as you hoped it would. Just spend some time scouring these forums, and you'll find lots of good info on how to get the most out of your device. It can be a bit overwhelming, as a lot of the info is scattered throughout different subforums, but I'm confident you can find what you're looking for.

Also, it would help to know what mods/tweaks you've done to your HD2 so far, so we make recommendations on what you can do to make you happy with it (I.E.- ROM version, .cabs installed, etc.)
[HD2 General] ericm115:
I took the plunge and traded it, I got a great deal. 1 iPhone 3GS and a Nexus one with a cracked screen. Now i have repaired the nexus one. I am happy with my trade. The HD2 had power but i didn't like it, not very fun to use. The 3gs is great and the nexus one is also great. true smaller screen but the ui is much better on both the iphone and nexus one. I wish tmobile would have something lined up for next year that is better than the incredible. If not i see no reason to stay with them. my contracts up in 3 months and they don't really have anything they could offer me to stay. plus the prepaid unlimited all on tmo network for $60 looks nice.
[HD2 General] maxpower097:
Glad to hear it worked out for you. I honestly love the HD2 and sleep with it nightly. But everyones different and uses different features. How you liking being a Machead? :)
[HD2 General] nickhaaa:
Sprint carries the HTC EVO 4G, which is the same as an HTC HD2 except running Android, with an 8mp camera that can shoot video in 720p.

I must admit I wish I had signed for that instead, but I'm stuck for 2 years.
[HD2 General] maxpower097:
Evo's a great phone I just feel it came out at the wrong time. I think by Christmas it will be old news and we may see dual core's. :) Had it come out at the same time as the HD2 I would be liking it better.
[Desire General] carlha:
Just started having problems with my browser. Whenever I load a page the status bar gets to halfway and the browser just hangs. If I then stop and refresh the page loads. Any help please.

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[Desire General] Rew64:
This has happen to me a couple of times when using mobile data, the only way I found to fix the problem was to reboot the phone.
[Desire General] IIIIkoolaidIIII:
A couple of times this has happened to me, I usually disable radio (airplane mode on and off) usually cures it, or if that doesn't work, clear the cache.
[Desire General] carlha:
Rebooted and now ok. Thanks

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[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] littledado:
Hi guys, at the first sorry for my bad english. I had a rom wich Apps2sd enabled, yesterday i have changed rom on my hero with another that supports Apps2SD too.

After set up my apps are shown correctly but if i go to the download tab of market, all aps are listed but they are not signed as installed.

Are there any possibility to restore market link? Thank you very much
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] littledado:
Nobody? :(
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] theSpam:
I'm wondering about this too.

I have some apps that I installed manually via the APK file, but they do exist in the Market. It would be helpful to have these apps appear in the Downloads section of the Market so that I can be alerted of updates and etc...
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ibanez33:
Titanium backup will back up the market links on your apps.

Even if you haven't wiped your ext partition when switching roms you will still have to restore each app to get the market link back..

As for adding a link for apps that never had one, I'm not sure...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] tonictone:
Whilst reflashing my diamond touch with a new rom at the stage where you disconnect and hold vol down and back button to start the rom off I had the back off and the battery fell out. Now if I do the above it comes up saying no image found then says trigger usb host and red flash saying usb retry enter usb. Have I meesed my phone up or is there a way to get the image back any help will be welcomed. I can still connect via mtty but the device doesn't come up in my computer anymore or wont connect via active sync.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] vicai:
dont worry .. nothing is lost :)

bring up the phone in bootloader .. vol down reset

connect the usb cable, on screen should write USB (instead of serial)

and now just run the customRUU.exe file that is usualy in archive you downloaded the rom, and just follow the instruciotions.

(like you are flashing without mtty! from computer)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] R.seed:
hi man, have you tryed to reinstall drivers ? i don't know what happends to your phone but i'm really sad for you :( hope it's nothing That can seriously damage it :( so if i was you, i'll try to reinstall all drivers and use mtty from the 1st step, may be it will work. feed beck plz :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] vicai:
he forgot to put image on the phone, or to rename it diamimg.nbh ...

reinstall DRIVERS !? :confused: