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[Desire General] mancuk29:
I some how think froyo won't be here for some time definitely not tomorrow think England have more chance of winning the world cup that froyo pinging on our devices!

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[Desire General] Sherwood W:
It seems that way I emailed them back saying that there isn't enough memory on my phone so I wont be sticking around if there isn't an update or that they wont let us know at least and I got this back (see attachment)
[Desire General] XDA mark:
Its clear they are not aloud to say anything about froyo.
[Desire General] doinbox:
I've just finished mailing them myself. Looks like I'm getting iPhone 4. HTC are the worst team for support ever. You can say what you want about Apple but at least they're always on time with updates and releases. Isn't it about time u created an iPhone thread after all it is a smartphone and I'm sure they'll be less arguments about what phones better if we all chat together in one place. Because I would like to still use xda but at the mo there's no point if you have an iPhone
[Desire General] brummiesteven:
What do you mean On Time?

Froyo hasn't even been officially released yet, heck, it hasn't even been rolled out to the Nexus One. Are HTC supposed to magically release it earlier than it's even finished?
[Desire General] speedking34:
Good for you mate, go get you iPhone, but to be honest we don't give a crap.
[Desire General] The_Stranger:
What would a forum, mostly targeted to people who like to alter and change their phone's OS, be of use to a iphone user, who can't alter or change his OS? :confused:

Apart from that, you can't blame HTC for you not having froyo if it doesn't even exist yet (in a final version). If you can, I will never buy apple products anymore, since my ipod shuffle isn't supplied with the OS5...
[Desire General] toddlamp:
I have to say that I do like the iPhone but I wouldn't call it a smartphone. My definition of a smartphone includes the ability to do more than one thing at a time.
[Desire General] destruxon:
lol since when has iphone been "Smart" the os4 update has only just brought it into the 21st centuary, weve had the perks for months. The iphone should have had all those as standard, they always on time with updates because the technology's been out six month so no brain cells needed to make a update. android and symbian updates all take us into the Future not bring us to present day, keep ya apple and eat it ill stick with android :)
[Desire General] andycted:
First: this is a forum dedicated to htc mobile phones and related devices

Second: the update isn't yet announced, it's in the works, no date has been ever pinpointed

Third: please do get the phone you want and move to a different appropriated forum, but understand nobody here cares what you do.
[Desire General] doinbox:
ok how can you say the iPhone is behind times. the desire has only just been released and its power and features are near identical to that of the iPhone 4. the iPhone OS can be altered once your phone is jailbroke similar to rooting but rooting is a lot harder because of branding There isn't really a forum for people who create jailbroke apps that's like this where usually every body gets on with everybody and questions get answered immediately. I'm not a massive iPhone fan its just the only phone worth getting that is like the desire. all I am saying is if do get an iPhone I would really like this site to.have a forum for jailbroke iphones. why does nobody think its a good idea. and the iPhone 4 does multitasking. please don't go mad it me like I say I respect everyone who uses this place.
[Desire General] yeahtyeaht:
htc confirmed that 2.2 comes out within 2 weeks.

german site http://www.zdnet.de/news/mobile_wir...sire_und_legend_story-39002365-41533741-1.htm
[Desire General] zEar:
Seems more serious..

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[Desire General] tatey2457:
Why would HTC confirm the update to Froyo to this site and this site only? Anyone else find this strange or is it just me?
[Desire General] yeahtyeaht:
its a serious site
[Desire General] doinbox:
More serious than there own site?
[Desire General] djoni1980:
zdnet probably just took a rumor from our site few days ago and turned it into a news :)
[Desire General] chillar:
Zdnet has quite a good reputation. According to this article

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/22/google-on-android-2-2-feverishly-working-to-get-a-final-versio/

It is not even done yet... So i dont think desire will get a final version before the n1 is doing so. Lets just wait
[Desire General] jimlad:
I don't see this news on zdnet.Com or zdnet.Nl
[Desire General] plaktoets:
cool, if the German version is rolled out within 2 weeks that means we will all get it soon. mind you htc actually confirming this to zdnet leaves little doubt, in my opinion
[Desire General] lupin85:
any new rumors?:)
[Desire General] XDA mark:
Good thing its so easy to select text and translate it on the Desire. Awesome device =)

So, another source that confirms this rumor. Lets see what happens in the next 2 weeks, starting from today.
[Desire General] Vorbeth:
You may want to read up on that, only a selection of App's will be allowed to Multi-Task, and developers have to add extra code in the app to enable it, then await Apples OK that it meets the requirements of a Multi-Task app.

In general only VoIP, audio, and location-based applications will have the ability.

See more here: http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2010/06/ars-reviews-ios-4-whats-new-and-notable.ars/7
[Desire General] brianius:
You're maybe right, but what if they developed sense for 2.2 already on 2.2 beta and will release it with same version like in south korea and then later bring an update to final, like our 2.1-update1 - Let's hope they are :D

Edit: @doinbox: a shame to think iphone 4 will/do have real multitask :D

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[Desire General] craylim:
Maybe HTC internal are already on FROYO, they have been downloading and using Flash from the market. The tech support guy was just confused..... :p
[Desire General] Shaizer:
I think that due to the fragmentation accusations Android has been receiving, Google has been working on releasing froyo for a whole lot of devices at once, so I guess that would mean delaying the nexus one (official) froyo and allow manufacturers like HTC to implement their sense UI etc. into froyo. I'm betting on a surprise release here, a whole bunch of phones suddenly with Froyo, and then Google saying "Fragmented Now?"
[Desire General] glumardok:
Today is the day. Froyo, where are you? ;-)

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[Desire General] mancuk29:
More chance of England winning today and going on to win the world cup than froyo appearing on our phones !

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[Desire General] gogol:
As much as I like the England team to go forward on the World Cup, but I like FroYo more :)

Englang win OR FroYo released this week?

Hmm ...
[Desire General] Aitese:
I have feeling my initial fears on this have come true. Various blogs have picked up the rumours right here, reported them and now people here are using those reports to bolster the rumour making it pick up even more.

It's a sad cycle of disappointment.
[Desire General] cr1960:
The ROM development thread for iPhone would be very small :D

Unless you jailbreak it, customisation involves changing your wallpaper and ringtone..... Even jailbroken, there's still not much you can do - although it does give you some more flexibility to download non-approved apps etc.
[Desire General] LunatikBunnie:
Jailbreaking does give you a little flexibility, but the best optimization I've only seen so fat was to delete extra languages and daemons to try speed up the device. But it does nothing but make the device unstable.
[Desire General] theloother:
at least we'll get Froyo sometime though :p
[Desire General] ch1lko:
in the next two weeks according to zdnet.de

zdnet.de/news/mobile_wirtschaft_htc_bringt_os_update_fuer_desire_und_legend_story-39002365-41533741-1.htm
[Desire General] jimlad:
hahahaha nice one, how true!

Sent from an England fan :p
[Desire General] junkiepilot:
Babelfished for us Non_German's!

The Smartphones delivered with Android 2,1 receive now version 2.2. The actualization comes by radio interface. In addition is for the HTC Hero shortly Android 2,1 available. HTC confirmed opposite to ZDNet that the two Smartphones the Irish get and putting an Android OS update of version 2.1 to 2.2, code name Froyo. The update is to be put to the devices over the radio interface, thus by FOTA (firmware Over the air), at the disposal. The enterprise does not call an exact time: That roll out is in the next two weeks to take place.

The new Android operating system makes googles according to Apps up to five times faster. In addition applications can lie now also on the memory card. Froyo is the first Android version, which offers full Flash support. Already in May HTC had announced to make Android available 2,2 for most 2010 introduced Smartphones. In addition to at the end of June is released to Android 2,1 (Éclair) for the model HTC Hero. The update effected in two stages, roll out the first phase starts shortly and takes place automatically. The second part of the update follows until the end of the month. Since the software update deletes all information on the Hero, HTC guesses/advises, to secure before all data as Backup. Due to the volume of data of the actualization the enterprise recommends furthermore to accomplish the download of the update by WLAN.
[Desire General] LBTaylor1984:
We need more informations today!

If Google say there is an announcement today, and then no show, that's very bad. Rumor had it that today we would see Desire 2.2, however i'm more concerned with Google, and what there doing since the iPhone 4 comes today...

MOAR!!!!!!!
[Desire General] Nickedynick:
Google never said that there'd be an announcement today. EDIT: Regarding Froyo.
[Desire General] MaTiCeK-:
There's a Motorola Droid X announcement scheduled for today. Google will also be present. But I doubt it will have anything to do with Froyo, as the Droid X runs 2.1.

They could however steal Motorolas show and say that the N1 update is ready.
[Desire General] veryjiggy:
I just feel it is very bad planning from google. I/O was 1 month back. And they STILL can't give a timeframe. This lack of timeframe is the thing that irritates me the most. I mean all their posts of 'coming soon' and 'working feverishly' don't really help, do they? All they do is create more speculation and more dashed hopes.
[Desire General] Nickedynick:
The could technically, but after announcing the Nexus One with the Motorola CEO (?) present - and very much there for no real reason - I doubt Google would want to piss off Motorola like that!
[Desire General] azrudin99:
that good. thanks for your info
[Desire General] speedking34:
If we do hear anything at all today, I won't be before the end of the day for us Europeans, so I suggest you all take a breath, take your finger off that refresh button, and go do something to pass the time today. I really don't have any expectations about today: If there is some kind of announcement then I'll be happy, if there isn't, meh whatever.
[Desire General] LBTaylor1984:
i'm pretty sure somewhere I heard Google were making some sort of announcement today, and thats why the iPhone 4 was push back/forward, to come out a day earlier.

If two weeks means by the end of the month, brilliant. if not then i'll be on Defrost by then. I need Flash 10.1 the web experience of this phone was one of my primary reasons for purchase.
[Desire General] al89nut:
I predict

Won't happen today

England lose to Algeria
[Desire General] junkiepilot:
Erm, we have already played Algeria and drew, were playing Slovenia today. Your obviously more of an android fan than England fan.
[Desire General] mrSiLe:
He predicted it wouldn't happen

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[Desire General] junkiepilot:
he's predicting it won't happen today, and that England will lose to a team we have already played...
[Desire General] kmetek:
erm Slovenia?
[Desire General] al89nut:
Erm Yes. Blame a late night. And denial
[Desire General] th3:
Well, it came to pass as expected. :P

At least you can use this semi-preview for now: http://www.anandtech.com/show/3782/a-taste-of-froyo-google-android-22-explored

No specific dates are given even to AT, just in the next months and year.

And a Google employee stated that the final internal Froyo update hasn't even been released yet: http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...elease-date-still-unknown-on-its-way-shortly/

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[Desire General] AndroHero:
Acording to adobe, they only officialy released flash 10.1 to there mobile partners yesterday, including google & ms, so there wont even be a final build of froyo made yet lol

Sent from space using vulcan transporters
[Desire General] ugrubni:
hi

it seems to be true, ..i just got something back from the zdnet support.

"Hallo xxxxx,

die Aussage hat mich auch verwundert - aber tatsächlich habe ich gestern in einem Telefonat mit der PR-Agentur von HTC die Info bekommen, dass ein Froyo-Update für diese beiden Geräte innerhalb der nächsten zwei Wochen ansteht.

Beste Grüße

xxxxxx, CNET.de"

it means he got the info from htcs pr agency.

mfg, ugrubni
[Desire General] AndroHero:
can u translate to english plz? :D
[Desire General] cyron_at:
..after a telephone call wit htc's pr agentur, there will be a froyo update for these two handsets within the next two weeks.
[Desire General] ugrubni:
well its not that good but, ..

"hello xxx,

i was also suprised about this statement, i got this info yesterday in a phone call with htcs pr agency, and they said the update for this two devices will come ni the next 2 weeks.

regards

xxxx. cnet.de"
[Desire General] jimlad:
He's obviously after some of your lovin, handing out all those kisses....

X

Jim.

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[Desire General] brianius:
Still no ota here... when is this google announcement today?

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[Desire General] ckx:
LOL...... fool :p
[Desire General] TheBlueRaja:
Wasn't far off was he though.
[Desire General] tuatha:
Can we just clarify once again that nobody at HTC ever officially confirmed FroYo for the 23rd. That came from one customer service guy, a month ago, and no other HTC employees ever repeated that 23rd rumour, afaik.

So don't waste your time checking your phones for OTA updates.

In answer to a post above - Google will be at the press launch of the new Motorola Droid later, along with adobe. Maybe there will be an announcement re: vanilla Android 2.2, maybe not.

But whatever Google announce later will likely have nothing to do with HTC...
[Desire General] ranyardm:
Well folks, I just got an OTA update that's installing right now on my Desire!

3 uk network locked contract phone, not "customised" by 3, but lots of passes to the install....

I'll post as soon as I have revs...
[Desire General] ljesh:
Keep us posted.
[Desire General] Judge584:
According to Adobe, Flash 10.1 will never be "built-in" in any rom, it will be available via androïd market only.
[Desire General] ranyardm:
"Congratulations you have just upgraded to software version 1.21.405.2"

Firmware version: 2.1-update1

Baseband version: 32.36.00.28U_4.06.00.02_2

Kernel version: 2.6.29-0cb9f166 htc-kernel@and18-2 #1

Build number: 1.21.405.2 CL174215 release-keys

Software number: 1.21.405.2

Browser version: WebKit 3.1

So I just lost my home screen setup for a minor update :( So much for "backing up settings" as part of the upgrade :mad:
[Desire General] jonnywright:
I've received an OTA update too on my Desire. I'll post back with results
[Desire General] XDA mark:
What I find pretty unusual is that Adobe is talking like 'many devices should have 2.2'. I have seen this video from Adobe about Flash 10.1 final (on GSMArena). At the end he says:

If you have a 2.2 device, head over to the Android Market and download Flash 10.1.

Now, NOT one single device has officially received froyo. Why is he talking like there should be a couple of devices that already have 2.2 or will have within the next hours/days?
[Desire General] r47z:
I knew it was not Froyo. It's to get the other roms ready to receive Froyo.
[Desire General] veryjiggy:
Think so too. Must be a preparatory update. However, that by no extent meas that we should expect FroYo anytime soon. :(
[Desire General] bukka1:
Unbranded phones had this update a month or so ago.
[Desire General] tuatha:
1.21.405.2 is the same update the rest of us got ages ago. Your network has just started rolling it out.
[Desire General] r47z:
Will just wait and see how long we'll have to wait. again.
[Desire General] veryjiggy:
Not everyone has that update. I am still on 1.15.110.11

The update got pulled by the time I got around to updating it

T-mobile btw
[Desire General] Joshhudsy:
same .
[Desire General] schnei:
Update und zdnet (German)

I can't post the link because I'm new to this forum :(

But here is a small translation of the updated news from yesterday:

The posted news from yesterday was a missunderstanding between HTC and the zdnet guy! HTC disclaimed that there will be a Froyo update in the next two weeks for the Desire. But they confirmed that there will be the Android 2.1 update for HTC Hero within the next two weeks!

I think we have to wait a few more weeks :(

greetz
[Desire General] ULJ:
Correct - as I expected.

The ZDNet source is here: http://www.zdnet.de/news/mobile_wir...sire_und_legend_story-39002365-41533741-1.htm

Translated version here: http://translate.google.com/transla...end_story-39002365-41533741-1.htm&sl=de&tl=en
[Desire General] jstegeman:
All of the "official" news regarding FroYo on the desire has been third-hand.

Some support guy at HTC -> a customer -> we in the forum

HTC's "PR firm" -> Zdnet -> us

When we see an official announcement from HTC on htc.com, that's when it will be believable.

Sure, I'd like FroYo + Sense just as much as anyone, but not enough to put any stock in rumours like this.

Cheers
[Desire General] Judge584:
zdnet.de exactly said: " (...) und will ein Update bis zum dritten Quartal ausliefern (...)

Which means: update will be between 1st july and 30 september 2010.
[Desire General] :
Actually "bis zum dritten Quartal ausliefern" is 'deliver up to the third quarter'. Which means they would have to deliver it in June (as the third quarter is starting with July).

I am quite sure that whoever wrote that article did not mean it that way, but maybe they should start to express themselves better :P
[Desire General] Black_mage:
Same here, T-Mobile Netherlands :(
[Desire General] XDA mark:
Google just released the froyo code, or whatever.

Check out Engadget or Androidcentral.

Now HTC can make their awesome announcement when the Desire gets froyo?
[Desire General] SkyWalker1726:
link http://developer.android.com/index.html

Is down ...
[Desire General] buchman:
works fine for me
[Desire General] genoxide:
froyo has been released by google so now we need to wait to get it to work with their sense addon

source: http://gizmodo.com/5570938/android-22-froyo-available-today
[Desire General] aindow:
Might not be that far off really. I'm sure HTC will have already been playing with froyo in one form or another

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[Desire General] cta102:
It looks like HTC are trying to annoy Apple with Android and WinMo updates, I suspect there are more releases due in the next 24 hours but 2.2 would be too hopeful (but you can never be sure)

Try to remember HTC are basically at war with Apple (with Microsoft as a partner)

But let me ask this question "What is there in 2.2 that you NEED right now?"

Don't get me wrong I won't complain about a speed increase, wifi hotspot and apps on SD card but I simply don't need them and doubt that any of the complainers (in particular) do either.

Though I do acknowledge that devs "do need" 2.2

What I do need though is an OS which is stable and gets any issues fixed quickly.

If you want bleading edge the source has now been released and you will soon have a number of variable quality 2.2 releases for the Desire (& others)

It would be nice if HTC would release 2 versions, vanilla and with Sense UI and allow the user to choose but Sense attracts the folks who would also be looking at buying an iPhone, its colourful and protects consumers from having to search through the.not so good apps, its a sound business practice.

BTW I'm not trolling but I do not understand the anger of some people.
[Desire General] tommo123:
apps2sd. i really *really* need that now
[Desire General] choccy31:
For those of us waiting, however impatiently, for our own version of Android 2.2 (FroYo), today very good day. The official Android 2.2 release has just been moved to the Android Open Source Project, and will now be available for developer release.

So what’s that mean to you? In a nutshell, it means that individual developers can now build and release FroYo ROM’s for any device.

So, if you’ve been carrying around your Motorola Droid, HTC Desire or any other device slaved to 2.1 or before, you should be getting some amazing 2.2 love very soon.

What’s the big deal with 2.2? Quite a bit has changed, but here’s the highlights:

* Improved Gallery

* Huge camera changes

* Faster overall performance

* We get Flash!

I can tell you, first hand, that the performance upgrades from 2.1 to 2.2 are amazing. While I’ve not noticed any discernable difference in my battery life, the overall user experience of 2.2 is vastly superior to 2.1 and below.

Personally, I welcome our new yogurt-eating-robot overlords.

Info source: Koush

[Update: Google has given the official release announcement of 2.2 in the Google Blog]

http://thenextweb.com/google/2010/0...n-the-aosp-new-froyo-releases-soon-to-follow/
[Desire General] fimae:
Me too, really really ^n would be helpful. Also flash player update is would be so nice!
[Desire General] lethalfriend:
Hd recording and playback is also on the wish list of froyo :)
[Desire General] kmetek:
me tooooooooooooooooooooooo
[Desire General] rovex:
I agree to a point. If you wanted the latest release, ASAP, you should have bought the N1, its that simple and we all know it. However HTC ARE slow, or at least have been, to release updates.

Very little is going to dampen the rush for the iPhone4 because Zealot Apple fanbois will buy it even if someone else releases a 3D holographic phone with more power than all the computers on the earth put together, but a release 'soon' will hurt sales and will help make those undecided customers jump over to HTC.

To me getting Froyo out to existing models is more important than making the latest version of sense, which is 1% different to the old version, for a new handset thats due out in 3-5 months time.
[Desire General] dnlgee:
Would have preferred a n1 myself but coudlnt get it on contract on any UK carriers at the time I got my Desire.
[Desire General] Phil750123:
I need apps2sd , like most people, and i need full flash! You just cant get any decent porn pages without full flash! I mean most people ( not steve jobs) need this!
[Desire General] tommo123:
but the only place to get that from (afaik) was vodaphone and there was no chance of me going down that road
[Desire General] LBTaylor1984:
so whos going to pack vanilla 2.2 for desire now then? I know nothing of Linux so i'm hoping some clever bod will do it for me :D While I need sense, i'd quite happily run Vanilla 2.2 til HTC get there arse in gear...
[Desire General] kevinsmbuk:
So basically, filtering through the bull****, the update will be available in the next coming months and presumably this year.

My stomach isn't churning I'm quite happy to wait until google/HTC get it right.
[Desire General] cosmicharade:
Mine is... Every time I install a new app I have to remove several others. This is total BS.