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[EVO 4G General] makoto:
So my wife and I both have Sprint's latest EVO 4G, and like many other people, we are experiencing battery issues.

I set my phone to use my WiFi network at home, and on my router administration, I can see every HTTP request that is made. What I am seeing is that there are continuous requests for Facebook profile photos, and it requests the same file repeatedly anywhere between 10 to 60 times in a row.

I'm sure this is what's draining the battery very quickly. I even have our phones to sync anywhere between every 2 hours to every 8 hours, but it's still doing it.

I read around and saw that some people are removing the Friendstream widget, so I gave that a try, but that didn't seem to help.

Next step, I turned off Sync Contacts for Facebook for HTC Sense, and sure enough, the requests have stopped.

I will have to test this out a little bit longer to confirm that this is indeed the cause, but so far, I think that's a big culprit to our short battery lives.

Can anyone confirm that they have experienced the same?

I've put up a screen-shot as well:

http://www.makotosan.com/files/Facebook-HTTP-requests.png
[EVO 4G General] lhl:
I noticed that my EVO was doing something similar when logcatting (and I don't use the Sense Launcher or widgets). Will definitely do a battery test w/ contact sync on/off to see how it effects things when I get a chance. I average about 6%/hr battery drain currently...
[EVO 4G General] makoto:
Just realized that I forgot to update the subject line. I originally thought it was Friendstream while writing this post, but have determined that it's not.
[EVO 4G General] diomark:
I started a seperate thread about how the 'People" widget was really causing battery drains on my Evo. ( http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=6898378 ) I used it for my quick contacts, but I always noticed that it would update the pictures from facebook/have status messages updated..

So I betcha it's the people widget..

-mark
[EVO 4G General] makoto:
I read your post on this and decided to give it a try and remove the people widget, but that didn't stop the continuous HTTP connection that the phone had open.

I was able to finally narrow it down to the Facebook contacts sync.

My wife was driving around town for just a couple of hours the other day and her phone had died after a fresh charge within that time.

The other day, she went to the doctor's and was playing on the phone for about an hour to pass the time. Along with her normal use of the phone, it made it to 38% by the end of the day. This is after I had turned of the Facebook contacts sync.

I think the developers of the Facebook book need to investigate this issue.
[EVO 4G General] scriptx:
I set facebook to only update once a day, and disabled the live feed sync. I like the contact sync; it's useful for new numbers, birthdays and caller id pictures.
[EVO 4G General] TurboX2:
yes, i have the same problem too, had to disable it kuz i would have to kill the "people" process too

I have over 300 of my phone's contacts synced to facebook.. and my battery would drop half way in a matter of an hour..

ive posted about this numerous times in the data usage thread, being that this had costed me about 13 gigs (being all the links to facebook)
[EVO 4G General] biscodude:
It happened to me too. It was causing reboots and killed my battery from a full charge to 10% in less than 4 hours while just sitting there. It also made my awake time and up time exactly the same. I identified this problem by looking at my processes in os monitor. The people process was at 30% cpu constantly. It was actually making my device hot to the touch.

You don't need to remove the people widget, just turn off auto facebook contacts syncing like the op said. Now I just manually update my contacts every once in a while.
[EVO 4G General] boredmug:
I tried this and have definately noticed an increase in battery life. To me the contact syncing is pretty much useless except for the the contact pictures so this isn't much of a trade off. Would definately rather have the extra battery life. I don't have 300+ contacts syncing with facebook so it's not as huge as some, but it *is* a noticeable difference.
[EVO 4G General] dr g:
Yes! This is all but confirmed in a few threads on androidforums and now here. It seems to be some kind of glitch in the contact syncing. Basically turn off the automatic syncing and maybe do a manual sync once in a while to pull new contact photos, etc.
[EVO 4G Accessories] cpnichols:
So I decided to NOT but a case around my pretty phone an go naked for a bit. The concern is about the camera lens. I have been getting more and more "careless" with the phone.. not putting it on a soft napkin and just laying it on a table. I have a screen protector on the front so maybe I should just lay it face down. But I am wondering.. anyone have an issue with the camera without using a hard case? The lens actually seems pretty strong....
[EVO 4G Accessories] Mast3rpyr0:
I've never used an extra case for a phone, they already come with a nice sexy hard plastic one. However with the Evo i would never use it without a screen protector. I think the lens is decently strong, it can take being set down on. Still be careful though.
[EVO 4G Accessories] jayv1717:
I use nothing at all not even a screen protector..and it's in perfect condition..i hope it stays like that

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Sent from my Htc Evo 4g
[EVO 4G Accessories] Jykinturah:
I am hunting for a case right now. The phone got pushed by someone's elbow across the table and the sound nearly made my ears bleed and my heart stop. Luckily it didn't do anything to the raised camera, but I am not risking it again.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Geniusdog254:
The Nexus lens is a lot like the Evo lens. I've had mine going for 3 months with rough use and there are a few tiny scratches on the lens, but nothing major. it doesn't effect the image quality at all.

I wouldn't be too worried
[EVO 4G Accessories] mrono:
my zagg came with a cut out for the camera, going to just drop that on there
[EVO 4G Accessories] kratos313:
I got rid of my Hard case and got the Zagg full body and seidio holster my camera is holding up fine no scratches and i don't lay it flat on the screen
[EVO 4G Accessories] fmi:
Do what I do...

Pop open the back case, and put on a square piece of CLEAR tape (not the scotch kind), packaging tape seems to work pretty well. Make sure it doesn't overlap on to the back speaker as it can reduce the phone's loudness. Then put the case back on. From time to time just replace the tape when it gets too scratched up.
[EVO 4G Accessories] drbgotenks:
Screen protector and nothing else. I normally leave the phone screen down on the desk.

I am not that concerned about the camera. There is always a way to replace parts on these phones (you can replace the screen 'relatively' easily also). I am sure I would be able to replace the camera cover/plastic/glass piece.
[EVO 4G Accessories] red man:
going streaking

been using it with out any screenprotectir abd case, not a single scratch *knock on wood* the new age screens are not ment to be used with a screen protector, and case just BLAH UGLY
[EVO 4G Accessories] mrsato:
I use a black silicon case and screen protector. I went nude for a while and I was just too nervous about it. The case is easy to take off, so if I let someone play with it, I often just take it off first so they can see just how nice the phone is. Something I like about the case is that the lens doesn't touch the surface when I lay it down - and I don't lay it on the screen, not that it would matter.

Another plus is that it doesn't slip out of my pocket like it used to (and any other phones I've had) when I'm active. Lots of pluses. Just too bad this particular one doesn't look that cool (not bad though). I'd really like to find a similar case that actually looks cool, maybe sporty.
[EVO 4G Accessories] sherman901:
I always use the kickstand and just prop up my phone. I am having no issues at all.
[EVO 4G Accessories] strung:
no case no nothing

it's gonna get wear and tear

but you're gonna get a new phone in 1 - 2 years anyway right
[EVO 4G Accessories] rutter9:
I always use a case to keep the phone in good condition for when I sell it after I'm done with it. It always gets top dollar since all the other used ones online being sold are junked up. But to each their own I suppose. Good luck!
[EVO 4G Accessories] chazglenn3:
No case, no screen protector. Looks like it did when I got it June 4th.
[EVO 4G Accessories] deekoi:
I just ordered this today: http://www.handhelditems.com/product_info.php?cPath=3524_5132_7769&products_id=135999

And it's cheap and it looks like it will do the job just fine with out adding much profile. I'd choose this over a naked alternative. Mine is partially naked, it has a screen protector and has been fine since.

I'll let you know how this case is when I get it.
[EVO 4G Accessories] lllDreadChiclll:
Same here. I always sell mine cause they still look new. I sold my Moment when I got my EVO and got $230 for it on eBay.
[EVO 4G Accessories] J3wBaccA:
I don't use a case and the camera is just fine, no scratches at all. I even dropped my phone on concrete like, the 3rd day I got it (missed my pocket lol) and the phone is completely fine, aside from a scratch on one of the corners that isn't noticeable unless you're looking for it. Speaking of which... I WANT A BUMPER CASE!! like this.. except black lol.

http://thenextweb.com/mobile/2010/06/11/pictures-of-iphone-4-bumper-cases-surface/

if anyone finds one let me know :D
[EVO 4G Accessories] impala454:
I do not have any screen protector or case, and (until I get a dock) I set my phone down camera face down. I got it opening day and have no scratches on the screen, but there are tiny, minute scratches on the camera lens glass. Though they are contained within the black, non-lens area that reads "8.0 Megapixels". It almost seems like this was intentionally done, as when you set the phone down on the camera, it's at an angle and the viewable part of the lens doesn't seem to touch the table. Photos I take are unaffected. It seems harmless and I will keep going "naked" with mine. I'll try and take a close up pic of the affected area if anyone wants to see.
[EVO 4G Accessories] aweedman:
I've been really careful with the phone but got my first scratch on the lense yesterday. It must have happened in my pocket yet I only keep the phone by itself in there. The Evo is a beautiful phone but having that protruding lens is a retarded design.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Saturn2K:
Do be careful with your lens. I was able to sacrifice my phone's lens to testing since it was going to be replaced soon anyway. I did a scratch test with it, using a pair of keys, and was able to gouge a large scratch into it with medium force. I did it off center, so I have no photos to show what the damage would do. I did that because I was afraid they would take a look at my phone and decide that the other problem wasn't worth replacing the phone over. So, everyone, be careful about what you set it on or what you have in your pockets.
[EVO 4G Accessories] 063_XOBX:
Definitely would like one of those also
[EVO 4G Accessories] ChadMichels:
Maybe its just my phone, but the aluminum ring around the camera lens is raised above the lens itself.

Its only slightly sunken, but unless its a key in my pocket, nothing I set the phone on thats wider than the lens is going to even touch it.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Tundricles:
I got bunch of scratches and dings picture quality not affected
[EVO 4G Accessories] EtherealRemnant:
How does the screen perform without a protector? I HATE this stupid Invisible Shield but I'm wondering does it smudge and smear more easily, etc? Before I rip this 30 dollar piece of trash off my phone I want to know how easy it is to clean the screen and if it gets all ick like the screen protector does.
[EVO 4G Accessories] midri:
Try sprints screen covers, if I recall their like 15$ for 1 anti glare and 2 clear. I use a clear one on my screen and used the other clear one to make a camera lens protector and I love it.
[EVO 4G Accessories] acrh2:
Does it cover the entire glass of the lens, or did you cut out a center to make it a ring?
[EVO 4G Accessories] acrh2:
That's wrong. I'm sorry, that's just not true. The depth of the lens isn't nearly enough to protect it.
[EVO 4G Accessories] wildcard:
I was worried about the same thing for my camera too... i just bought an extra screen protector off ebay (i think it came with two) and cut out a little circle and placed it over the camera. It took a while to get it the right size but it works pretty good and now I don't worry about scratching the camera lens.
[EVO 4G Accessories] zone23:
I put my case on when I'm going to be drinking or just outside for a while. Mostly when drinking.
[EVO 4G Accessories] AcIdC0R3:
I hate this damn Invisishield or whatever it's called that you get from BestBuy. It's kind of rubbery and your finger doesn't swipe as smooth as if it were naked. They have some better brand screen protectors out there. I guess I'll just have to buy a better brand. As for the cam on the back, at first I thought that bevel was slightly raised above the glass but upon closer inspection with a magnifying glass it appears flush with it so I make sure my case is on it if I lay it down on it's back. It's too bad it doesn't have gorilla glass like my Zune HD. That would be tiiite and I wouldn't need a screen protector.
[EVO 4G Accessories] watzone69:
I just got the Zagg full body shield and did this trick too. I took the back off and the punched-out circle fit nicely over the lens and bezel. Since it's flexible material, it stretched and form-fit perfectly! Picture quality looks the same.

I have to say, I was against the Zagg protectors at first due to the slightly tacky feel. BUT, the advantage of having a phone with no case has made me willing to get used to it. Now I am a fan.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Tundricles:
Phantom skinz are superior.
[EVO 4G Accessories] usctrunks:
just to let everyone know, the screen is not as scratch proof as everyone says. I have a extremely tiny scratch on my screen that you can only see when the phone's screen is off. I am not happy about it )=. i don't lay my phone down on it's screen or keep it in my pocket with keys or change. I think the scratch came from the like copper nub protruding from my jeans )=. anyways just letting people know that I think a screen protector is worth it now.

-U
[EVO 4G Accessories] acrh2:
I believe all glass is like this (maybe even including Gorilla glass.) You can take a knife to a scratch resistant glass, and not leave a mark, but if you use the glass for a couple of weeks, slowly but surely, scratches will appear.
[EVO 4G Accessories] bbowenx:
it is a very durable plastic. however somehow within the first 18 days i managed to crack mine right down the middle. NO IDEA HOW... do you by chance know of anyplace to get parts...
[EVO 4G Accessories] kellybrf:
this! i use the body glove one from sprint b/c its thin and prevents the lens from touching, but otherwise its naked.

i do have the sprint screen protector on too, which is suprisingly good. the antiglare one adds a small haze, which i dont like, so i use the clear one. i usualy set it either face down, or on something and slightly hanging off the edge so the camera lens isnt touching anything
[EVO 4G Accessories] johnnychimpo:
I got some generic 3 pack screen protectors off ebay for like 3 bucks and went naked on the body. The phone just feels better and my cameras hasn't got a scratch on it yet. I just make sure I have no money, keys, or other objects in my phone pocket.

The cheap screen protectors are holding up well. Actually have the exact application as the Sprint store ones do but cover the 4 bottom buttons.

Sent from my PC36100
[EVO 4G Accessories] docprego:
Anyone try the Best Skins Ever? I bought it to cover the battery cover and bezel, I am not going to use the screen protector (I use a Steinheil for that). It comes with a small piece to fit over the camera lens, I'm going to try it. I hope it's clear enough that it doesn't affect the camera picture quality. Has anyone applied this piece on their camera that could comment?
[EVO 4G Accessories] Meatbyproducts:
I got a case when I bought the phone, but I didn't like it. I have gone naked and I am very rough on the phone. I have zero scratches on the screen or camera. I did manage to scratch the case on one corner. I love the phone naked and will not get a case or screen protector.

I have dropped this thing and even had it slide across a parking lot, by accident of course. I even placed it screen down and keep it in my pocket with keys.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Duckman33:
I have a case but removed my screen protector when I saw a video of a guy taking an industrial razor blade, a wood screw, a car key, and a nail to the screen and didn't put one scratch on it. So far, I have no scratches on my screen or camera lense.
[EVO 4G Accessories] soapy:
My screen is in great shape. As for my camera, I bought the macro lens kit reviewed on good and evo and it has a sticky metal ring you put around your lens. Sure its ugly but it keeps the lens off things.

My buddy on the other hand has a scratch right over his sensor... Poor guy.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Alex210:
I've had my evo for about a month now and so far it's good. Never bought a case because I usually don't like the way cases feel. I set the phone lense-down on my desk every day, and it has already slipped out of my pocket and onto a hardwood floor twice. So far the only scratches I've gotten are a few very small ones on the edge of the silver around lense.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Pierceye:
Just chipping in on this one. My phone has been naked since i got it almost 2 months ago. It rides in my right front pocket by itself and so far I have had zero problems. I was worried myself about which way to set it down without any protection. I only learned about the Gorilla Glass feature a few days ago, so I was trying to avoid screen-down unless it was on a soft or clean surface. That left camera-down. That ended up being better than i thought for one reason. The camera bezel causes the phone to sit at a slight angle. This means that the camera lens is not actually in contact with whatever surface the phone is sitting on. I have two very slight scratches in the lower part of the bezel from a bump on a gritty surface. Other than that, Nada!
[EVO 4G Accessories] backdown:
On my original evo, the camera lens was scratched to hell. I am anal about my phones and i make sure they are in a seperate pocket by themselves at all times, but i did set it on the lens. When i got this new one, i used a zagg invisishield and put it over the lens, which so far so good.
[EVO 4G Accessories] sparhawk6:
I've done the exact same thing you have, and I've been wondering about that small piece over the camera lens. I haven't put it on yet, but I am considering it. I hope it doesn't effect picture quality.
[EVO 4G Accessories] krillik08:
I'm so crazy about my phone being protected I'm using the seidio innocase rugged one, 3 layers of protection with a non reflective screen protector and it makes me happy. Looks the same it did on launch day. Brb gonna kiss my evo.
[EVO 4G Accessories] TheBiles:
There's not a scratch on my camera, and I've been naked since day one. I also always use the kickstand when I set it down and carry it on a holster.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Jeremiah239:
Thats exactly what I do I have had mine since July 13th no scratches at all.
[EVO 4G Accessories] docprego:
Mine is sort of naked. I have the Phantom Skinz black carbon fiber chromatics on the rear, Best Skins Ever on the bezel, and Steinheil Ultra Crystal on the screen. I also cut a piece of clear protector and put it on my camera lens. I keep the whole thing in a Sprint leather case which is lined on the interior with a very soft microsuede type of material. My phone is in the same condition as it was on the first day.
[EVO 4G Accessories] monkeefied:
I work in an industrial environment, so a case and screen protector is a must.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Pierceye:
This is the coolest glass on the screen. I keep mine in my pocket and no matter how smudged it might be when it goes in, it comes out clean. I was amazed, considering my old Palm phone almost needed Windex to clean the screen.

Just the motion of walking is enough to wipe it clean. My phone is all I keep in that pocket though.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Brese:
Cracked/no idea how. Pissed.

Need to figure out a replacement without the insurance which is a 100 dollar deductible...

Read this - http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/HTC-Evo-4G-Teardown/2979/1 and it looks like I need an "Internal Frame". Found a repair kit on Ebay for 119 bucks..

Question is do I replace the frame, or just do the insurance gig and get a whole new one...

Attached Image so you can share in my dread...

On a side note I haven't noticed a problem with pictures...
[EVO 4G Accessories] voodoo55:
i have noticed the opposite. my screen protector scratches up much easier and looks crappy, but smudges less and wipes off easier than bare screen. :confused:
[EVO 4G Accessories] Pierceye:
Bummer. I think HTC was manufacturing at a number of different sites and not everyone got the exact same components. Perhaps even the glass was different? I have yet to try a screen protector so I am not certain if that would clean any easier. It would have to be as simple as a single wipe on your jeans to be much less of a hassle than mine though.;)
[EVO 4G Accessories] Pierceye:
Just a heads up. You are highly unlikely to get a new Evo out of the insurance deal. More likely to receive a "refurbished" unit. I know alot of people seem to get along fine with a refurb but both of the ones (not Evos) I have gotten in the past had trouble that my original did not. A refurb Centro that looked like a 7 year old put it back together, and another Centro that had so many bugs in the software I swore off of PalmOS. I don't know what is involved in doing the repair yourself but at least the Evo you have now is a known quantity. It's a crap-shoot with the insurance replacement.
[EVO 4G Accessories] SharkUW:
I'm rough yet responsible with my phone. I'm not going to baby the thing. It usually ends up with my keys in my pocket because I'm a smoker and have an extended battery. The license does have a scratch but it's not very notable and is probably from before I got the large battery. I do also have a very mild scratch on the main screen. It's not detectable from any angle when there's any back light at all. I had to wipe down the screen to find it which I rarely do if ever. It's very durable, the camera less so.
[EVO 4G Accessories] SharkUW:
That would depend on how right ones pants are, lol. Your protector probably cleans easier because of the added friction. Get a lens cleaning cloth if you don't have one and don't be afraid to use a bit of force to scrub. Aside from that, your screen is as smooth as glass, obviously. Oil will tend to just smear if you don't use a bit of force.
[EVO 4G Accessories] SteveChiller:
Camera is ready. So hurry and get naked.
[EVO 4G Accessories] mattrb:
I got an extra camera pastic cover in case I needed it. It was $30 bucks and I though it was worth it. There is already a scratch on my old one but it does not effect the camera image quality. eBay is awesome.
[EVO 4G Accessories] looneylu:
can you post a link to it on ebay???
[EVO 4G Accessories] monterj:
This. When I take the phone out of my pocket it looks brand new. I've dropped the phone 2 times and no scratches yet! I don't think I ever want to put clothes on this bad boy.
[EVO 4G Accessories] wekebu:
Well, duh! I have been so careful where I place the phone. Using the kickstand not only will save the camera lens, but will allow me to find the phone easier! Thankx.
[EVO 4G Accessories] AzN1337c0d3r:
Broke my plastic lens. Seems like there's a glass lens (or at least really hard plastic) inside as well.