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[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kshawn:
Anyway to those who might have been able to test it, Would say it has noticeable difference even if it didn't. What I mean is the folks who probably were not aware of it before are the ones who would most likely just jump and say it's better. Compared to those who noticed right off the back, if that makes sense.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sfox8:
These two threads: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=6915937#post6915937

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=704889&page=48

I have hardware revision 003 but I haven't tried the fix yet. My lag was never really that significant in the first place and I'm planning on replacing this when Sprint gets their updated batches with the light leak and screen fixes so I don't want to root yet. I'd rather hold off until there's a stable ROM with all the features working. (Camera is a necessity, unfortunately)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Holyrolla:
This is my first Android phone, and coming from a Touch Pro 2, I found the responsiveness slightly better on the the Evo than on the TP2.

I have a friend who has the Sprint HTC Hero, and I noticed his screen shifts and overall responsiveness to be waaaaay better.

I can say now having applied the fix, the UI is as snappy on the EVO as it is on the Hero. As far as games go, it's a lot smoother.

So I'll say this, from the perspective of a first time user, minus the bad press and forum posts, the Evo is a great phone. With the fix, it's even better!

Edit: Let me add that while I was not pleased in having a phone where the features were halved, this was still the phone for me. Having a technical background AND knowing HTC's history, as well as the history of the devs (ie GPS functionality in the Moguls), I knew it was a matter of time for the fix to be found. But I can definitely view this from the perspective of the non-technical person who don't want to fool with rooting anything. They want something that works out of the box. I may not agree with the "whining" of some, I could relate.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tcd2004:
I have an Evo which has been unrevoked and when I go into my gallery on my phone, only a few of the pictures load. Most of the time I get a gray box with a small exclamation point in the middle for every spot there is supposed to be a picture. When I first got the phone it had me do a small update, which from what I've read, was for memory card issues. Right now I am running software 1.32.651.1, which is what it came with out of the box. I keep reading about an OTA update that ends in .6, but when I go to my software update, it doesn't show one is available. I don't know if that would fix my issue, but I'm hoping someone can point me towards a fix. Thanks
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bradlo:
Does anyone know the diag codes for 2.2? Th usual ##3424# code doesn't seem to work.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jwhitney83:
its *#*#3646#*#* don't press send, it will pop up.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bradlo:
I punched it in and the number disappeared when I hit the last * but then nothing happened...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jwhitney83:
Try, Try, Try, and Try again.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bradlo:
I've tried the code more than 15 times and still no diag mode.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EtherealRemnant:
Last I heard, EPST codes don't work on Froyo because Froyo doesn't have EPST software.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bradlo:
Thanks for the info.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Drift7-:
Try ##778# That is what it is for the Incredible. My brothers Dinc worked with it just now.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] k2snowboards88:
I've been reading that there are two different screens being used. One from epson, and one from nova. What are the differences between these screens. Are they both still 16 bit? Is the brightness different? Any other differences?

Is there any way to tell which screen you are getting before you buy? Are evo's still being made with both screens?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] halorin:
Not sure anyone knows the answers to those questions. I have a revision 0003 with a nova screen, and before this fps fix business came up I was happy with the look. The touch input lag concerns me more than the 30 fps thing right now.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Obama's>god:
how do you check your hardware revision?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kennyc1:
Go to settings -> About phone -> Hardware Information, under Hardware Version

0002 = Novatel

0003 = Could be either, you have to run and pipe some log to find out which one you have.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] k2snowboards88:
Too bad. The touch lag and 16 bit screen are what are making me lean towards the galaxy s right now. I'm waiting to see if either the htc evo gets better by the time the galaxy comes to sprint (in some form) or the galaxy shows up with big problems making the evo relatively better. Hopefully the epson screen will fix at least the lag. 18 bits would put me over the edge.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oOflyeyesOo:
I have a 002, im very curious on what the differences on the screen's are.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrDSL:
Nobody really knows except for the epson 30fps limit has been fixed and the novak not.

People are reporting the novak has a purplish tint to it. the side by side pic it looks pretty obvious but YMMV..

the biggest issue I have with the whole thing is from the users who have applied the 30fps fix they all say input lag is gone and its very noticeable!

Maybe at some point the issue will be fixed for the EVO's with novak screens but I'm not sure I am willing to bet being locked into a phone and carrier for 2 years.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] itmustbejj:
There is still a week and a half to exchange your phone. Do you know how LONG that is in XDA-time? We have had our phones for 2 and a half weeks (granted we had root before release but still) and look at what all has been accomplished.

Personally I reloaded my sense (on a 002 nova) and I found my color to be in between the two (not as "purple" as the first and not as "black" as the second). I got caught up in the "purple vs true black" debate, but I'm finding that it really isn't as much of an issue to me.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Minjin:
Everyone keeps saying this but I don't think it's true. You have a week and half to RETURN the phone (assuming you bought on launch day). You have nearly a year to exchange the phone for any kind of defect because of the warranty.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] itmustbejj:
I believe after the 30 days you get a refurbished phone whereas if you do it within the 30 days you can get a brand new replacement. YMMV, but I know with the relationship I have with my Sprint store theres a good chance I could get a brand new replacement even after my 30 days...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rank78:
The purple hue looks ugly imho.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hrshycro:
I'm still waiting for sprint.com to get some more units in (hopefully 0004) so I can replace all 3 of ours, and I'm getting scared because it's been 2.5 weeks without any. ;(
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] asrebel:
Agreed, but I don't know that all Nova panels have that hue. I have an 03 with the Nova panel and it definitely does *not* look like that.

I would just say I believe there will be a 30fps fix for the Nova panel. The only reason the Epson was first is because that's what the Developer had.

Also, ever panel tends to have their own advantages and disadvantages. I'd be very surprised if the Epson panel is the "ultimate" panel. There are probably tradeoff's to both panels ... we just haven't recognized them yet.

I do believe the Epson panel in that picture looks to have problems with the blacks looking a little grayer and the whites look a little white-washed, but that could simply be due to the brightness.

Who knows...maybe the 0004 revision will have the best panel of all. ;-)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrDSL:
Honestly I just want my input lag gone..I don't care about the colors really mine seems fine..

Part of me is just like hey if I am going to wait around for a complete fix then I might as well wait for the next phone that doesn't have it to begin with.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] halorin:
Right there with you, but it's hard to think of having a phone with a smaller screen now.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] asrebel:
Well the 30fps fix also seemed to fix the input lag.

I understand why you might want to jump ship for a different phone. If I didn't love everything else about the EVO (and know that the issues I have are fixable), I would probably be in the same boat. Having said that, it seems like every device has their own issues. Granted the HTC devices I purchase always seem to always have a few more for some reason...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] richse:
It might just be the picture or my monitor but the first time I looked at this one I thought the left EVO looked better than the right. Only later I found out everyone is saying the one of the left has the problems.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bob13bob:
warranty replacemetn and 1 month replace big difference. one month, u can leave sprint which really gives yous bargaining power. onlye 1 month returns can be trusted.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dmystic1:
Some people paid for a new phone, and want a new phone. Not a refurb.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] halorin:
Aesthetics and responsiveness go a long way for me. It's hard to play games with a 200 or more touch delay.
[HD2 General] nardone24:
I get my phone on march 24th(1), Get home and the screen is jacked up, return it. Thats 2 . Two weeks later the phone wont charge, now the phone is sold out and i have to use a crappy flip phone. 3 days later i get a new one. Thats 3. Two weeks or so later the phone keeps shutting off and no matter what i do wont stay on for more then 1 hour at a time. Return that one and now since im out of my remorse period i have to go thru Tmobile and no longer the store. New phone sent to me in a day... Thats 4. A few days after getting me 4rd HD2 i dropped it and cracked the screen called the insurance company and again phone was on back order so i had to wait 4 days to get it. This is the 5th one now. Now today i wake up and my phone is doing what the 2nd one was doing and would charge. I can plug the phone in with my charger or my girls, with my stock battery or my extended. and i get the same blinking orange and green led like i got when my 2nd phone was messing up. I about over this phone and i dont think i would still have one if it wasnt for you guys on this website with at the hacks and roms you make....

Anyone else have any issues like me hahahahahaha
[HD2 General] frankd14321:
very strange, I literally have had zero problems with my phone.

get a Samsung Vibrant when it comes out soon from tmobile.
[HD2 General] davel23:
No problems with my HD2 either. Now, T-Mobile's coverage, that's another story.
[HD2 General] roycio:
I got my phone on March 24th @ 9:05am and works perfect so far
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
and please, dont ever come within fifty feet of my phone :)
[HD2 General] speoples20:
Honestly its you, there is no way some one could have that many problems with phones. Make sure you are using the charger that comes in the box and don't charge it on the computer.
[HD2 General] mastajest:
Agree. You either have really bad luck (doubtful), or you're not charging it right. This is a great phone, if you take some time to read instructions; especially if it's your first smart phone (or ppc if you prefer).
[HD2 General] glcK23:
I only had 1 replacement, and that was because my HD2 has a blown speaker.
[HD2 General] pepsidrinker:
I bought mine when they came out, and have only charged it on my computer, and in my car via t-mobile mini usb charger.

I too have had ZERO problems with the phone, other than the problems we all know related to SENCE and WINMO.

:-)
[HD2 General] kcaj32:
Zero problems. I charge on the computer as well as using the wall charger. No battery issues.
[HD2 General] Nibbley15:
Zero hardware problems here;

Got mine on release day;

Flashed more than 200 times now :eek:; sometimes 10 times a day building ROM's; so it's either bad luck or something you are doing differently; besides drop checking it. :confused:
[HD2 General] invalid_character:
I haven't had any hardware issues with mine that weren't caused by me. The blinking LED is due to battery overheating... Honestly, like others have said... it's you, not the phone.
[HD2 General] sirphunkee:
nardone, are you using any charger other than the stock one that comes with the phone?
[HD2 General] jesrazo:
I have had mine for 3 weeks and havent had any problems, except today. Just outside of Phoenix it was 115 degrees today and my phone was hot. Battery was at 30% and i plugged my charger and it would blink from green to orange. Turned AC to full blast and cooled it down and it worked again no problem.
[HD2 General] jas0nw0ng:
Just like a few other people in this thread. Your first phone may have not worked, but I doubt all 5 did not. It's technically possible, but statistically, highly unlikely.
[HD2 General] nardone24:
I had a feeling you guys weren't gonna believe me...

As far as it being my fault yes i take full responsibility for the cracked one.

not the others tho. I can also show proof for the other returned phones...

No i don't use anything but the hd2 charger and never charge on my comp.

and as far as the overheating battery i cant say your not right(cuz i would just take your word for it) but i can say that phone 2 and 5 didn't have an "overheating" problem. as i stated before i tried different batteries and chargers only to find out the phone itself... Not to mention when i called the insurance company and T-mobile they both said they have had issues with charging Maybe i have bad luck or maybe my area got a ****ty shipment. I mean there's nothing anyone can really do wrong to this cell phone as far as having hardware issues so people saying "its you" That's just letting me know how ignorant they are

A buddy of mine at work is on number 3 already

Maybe we are just the ones who aren't afraid to say how god damn ****ty this phone really is

Oh and no this is not my first smart phone and definitely not my last
[HD2 General] Slash8915:
that's how i was with the tp2. i went through about 10.
[HD2 General] pocketjs:
Same problem...

I got the blinking orange and green led and wouldn't charge when one of the battery connector pins was bent. I bent it back and worked fine after that. That could have been the problem.
[HD2 General] jayvo:
why is it so bad to charge the HD2 via computer? I mean when I hook it to my computer to copy CAB, its already automatically charging so whats so bad about it? :confused:
[HD2 General] nardone24:
I dont see anything wrong with charging on the comp. I have had over 100 cell phones probly more and all have charged on the comp. I think there are just people out there looking to answer my problem with what ever they can think of...

As far as the connector for the battery being bent, It wasnt!

My phone turned on and all just didnt charge i looked up the orange blinking light and have seen both people saying either battery over heating or the Mini USB port being faulty.

I do want to thank everyone for there replies tho. With out this site my phone would flat out suck....
[HD2 General] josemedina1983:
Just sell it and buy something else. every one have their bad luck with one phone.
[HD2 General] dkb218:
I doubt I would have continued to order the phone after 3 fails. T-Mobile must have you on a list to send you only jacked-up phones. Either that or you city gets all the rejected devices.
[HD2 General] nardone24:
No compaints with number 6!!!! Im running Core cell with 2.12.50.02 Radio.

Phone is fast and stable as all hell.
[HD2 General] pixine786:
Glad to know this that you are Happy with HD2 now
[Droid X General] rolandroland:
My friend just got out of a sales meeting where they got to play with it.

it is coming July 15th behind a large marketing campaign. No pre-orders, at least not in store.

They will be offering early upgrades like ATT did for the iPhone to get more people to get it.
[Droid X General] swaj:
They're screwing current Droid owners, though. Check out the live blog from engadget... I can't link it because of some silly restriction so you'll have to google it.

You can only upgrade if your upgrade eligibility is up sometime in 2010, which means anybody that bought a Motorola Droid is screwed. I got mine on launch day and I gotta admit I'm pretty PO'ed I can't upgrade.
[Droid X General] socalracer:
it will have 2.2 and cost $199
[Droid X General] DKYang:
Screwed? Of course you got screwed. That's how technology works. It screws you over the month after you buy it. Btw, you screwed yourself over for signing a two year contract. By next year, they will have a Droid 3 and the year after that and etc.
[Droid X General] sic0048:
Really? Did Verizon suddenly change the upgrade language of the contract you signed? If you can't think ahead before you sign a long term contract, you have no one to be upset with except yourself. Verizon didn't screw you, your short term "gotta have the best right now" attitude is what screwed you.

No one cares that you have buyers remorse. You ultimately have two choices - wait until you can upgrade at the reduced prices, or go ahead and buy a new phone at full price. You could always sell your existing phone if you choose option #2 to help take the edge off the full retail price.

You can complain about it all you want, but you won't gain any sympathy, and it won't change the choices available to you.
[Droid X General] winnernet5000:
You can upgrade...ETF + sell phone + buy the new one. Yeah, it costs money...so do phones. In 3 months when new snap dragon processors hit the streets people with a droid-x will be complaining. Buy the phone for what it is, and don't get pissed that there is better things out there. Or, if it is a big deal, pay up. Verizon doesn't get these things for free you know.
[Droid X General] microdot:
Wow, couple of Verizon employees here maybe?....poor guy.
[Droid X General] peperonikiller:
Naw, its just a forum.. **** happens. However I will be getting this phone on the 16th ;) It will be a nice upgrade from my Samsung Omnia i910.

I need to learn Android quick tho, I've been cooking WinMo roms for over a year and don't even know a thing about android yet -.-
[Droid X General] microdot:
aah...the omnia...i had the omnia, awesome phone but i couldnt stand the txting on the relatively small screen and upgraded to the touch pro 2. i know i loose the keyboard again by getting the droid x but the screen is so much bigger and andriod has really mastered the speech to txt technology, i figure i might not do that much typing then
[Droid X General] peperonikiller:
Speech to Text??? O.o thats awesome
[Droid X General] grndnpnd:
LOL ther must not be any verizon employees here because if you came in crying to me at my store i would just get you to add a line to your account then you get it for 199.99 after rebates plus $240 over the next year isnt it great to buy a phone at full retail and pay installments look at the bright side tho when that snapdragon 3 comes out you will have an upgrade on your other line GO VZW lol
[Droid X General] grndnpnd:
anyone that thinks the omnia was a good phone must wear a helmet. that phone had a sorry excuse for a touch screen and o yeah ITS WINMO AHHHHHHHHHH LAG i dont think you should have to reformat your phone as many times as a windows M.E. machine

ill give you the benifit of the the doubt tho it was either go with winmo rim or tmobile
[Droid X General] microdot:
Good phone at the time!!!!! and mostly cause of hardware for example one of the 1st phones to come out with 5 megapixel camera, 8G harddrive and stuff. Of course its sucks compaired to phones now but think of what was out at the time it released. Ooooh the BB storm one. And of course wm sucks...hence i am getting droid x and going to android.
[Droid X General] ritkit:
I am upgrading from the omnia too. This will be a much needed upgrade.
[Droid X General] xenspidey:
I'll be upgrading from the Omnia i910 as well... which ever store is open first on July 15th, either Verizon or cash in my Best Buy Pre-order. I've been cooking on the Omnia for about a year now and can't wait till the 15th. I'm a huge Linux nut and fairly fluent in Java... The future is bright for Android my friends. Let's just keep our figure's crossed that the bootloader isn't locked!
[Droid X General] sablesurfer:
Uhm....yeah about that. I see a couple of posters here that want to start makin roms once they get this.

Not sure it will be happening soon...

http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...x-bootloader-locked-custom-roms-unlikely.html

Another post I found off that forum said something about an efuse chip...and if that chip don't like what it is reading...it goes blewie. Yep...chip will supposedly trip and phone is bricked.

Ah wait...here it is:

http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/...-locked-down-let-me-tell-you-what-i-know.html
[Droid X General] 12yan:
haha. bump for the omnia i910! i am upgrading from this phone as well.

it served me well for two years though...
[XPERIA X10 General] ddewbofh:
I got to thinking...bad sign. :)

Is there a chance you could pull an iphone dev team and hold off on release until the next major one from SE? Like how the iphone devs did with the 4.0 jailbreak where they waited so that Apple wouldn't patch the exploit. If it's relatively easy to patch it might be better to keep it undisclosed until 2.1 is released so they don't just patch it.
[XPERIA X10 General] saltorio:
That's a long time to wait and see. SE themselves have pretty much admitted that their adjusted "Q3" release for Eclair on the X10 really means the end of Q3 (ie: late September), as they said the rollout would be Q3 through early Q4.

Also, what's the point in waiting. Root means ROM chefs can cook up FroYo ROMs for the X10, bypassing any need to ever install the official X10 Eclair release.
[XPERIA X10 General] robbyf66:
As far as I know we can downgrade our builds so it shouldn't be an issue.

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[XPERIA X10 General] ddewbofh:
Well the X10 is still being sold so it might start shipping with 2.1 after that release and if the exploit can potentially work on X8, which might ship with 2.1, it would mean that if it's released now SE might "fix" it making the X8 harder to root.
[XPERIA X10 General] ddewbofh:
For now, but there's no guarantee SE won't start locking down updates so that the updates need to be signed for the update to even start taking place.
[XPERIA X10 General] lqbweb:
come on! if the are interesting to block root down they will!! we are talking about Sony Ericsson, you think they're weirds (at least technically speaking...)
[XPERIA X10 General] saltorio:
Well - for what it's worth - SE did clarify on their forums that though they're not supporting rooting, that simply means they won't do anything to ease the process and not that they're actively going to try to prevent rooting from happening.

With that said, they could always fix the exploit used by the rooters and say it's a security fix, and... oops... it also happened to prevent the existing root from being performed.

I agree with the rooters decision not to release the exploit they're using, and hope they can mask it in their final public root process to make it harder for SE to figure out.
[XPERIA X10 General] chowdarygm:
couldnt resist asking this question.....

for how many days can you keep this off?

how many 1.6 versions do we have for x10?

will it not take a week for SE to cover this exploit even after 2.1 and release a new version?

i am not against anyone or their ideas (respect the devs behind root and their master minds)...but just my 2 cents to this.... i dont think stopping the root for 3 months will gain us so much....if wanted SE can burry the root exploit in a week's update after 2.1.....