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[Droid Incredible General] dreamersipaq:
COOL!

The best thing about this is, now you know your time. If you don't change anything about the sd card (i.e. put or delete a ton of files) that should be your time. It should be easier to get into recovery again as long as you try around that time! I can reproduce adb recovery anywhere between in 1 to 3 tries when I do it around 7.3 - 7.8 seconds for me!
[Droid Incredible General] gripper4hire:
Thanks for the words of encouragement rynosaur.

I now have root! :)

For me it was about 7 seconds with a 2GB SanDisk.

I can confirm that it seems the timing has to match/sync with the SDCard insertion with the enumeration of the two disk devices in Recovery Mode.

In windows, you can tell the enumeration happens by hearing the "do-do" sound. However, this sound is actually triggered *after* the USB initial enumeration is acknowledged by the USB port, as there is a slight delay when the operating system driver acknowledges the event.

So if you hear the "do-do", and then a second or two thereafter you don't get the error message you are waiting for, its already too late. No use in waiting around. Time to pull the battery and try again.

Sync'ing the clock's second hand at zero when hitting power to enter recovery mode also is a very helpful tip.

With this, and the guidance of between 5 and 8 seconds noted above, it took me about 5 quick tries and I got root in less then 10 minutes!

Thanks again, time for Wi-Fi tether!

-gripper
[Droid Incredible General] agkunkle:
7 seconds, Verizon 2GB Sandisk. Thank you very much, this worked great!
[Droid Incredible General] solidunit:
Following this method *to the letter*. Tried 3 different sd cards. Nothing. Waiting for an easier root hack.
[Droid Incredible General] gripper4hire:
Hi solidunit,

I think the key is inserting the SD-Card at the same moment as the recovery environment creates the two mass storage devices, and as others pointed out, it also could have something to do with the format of the SDCard (FAT32, 1024K cluster size).

I almost gave up too, I was thinking it was something newer bootloaders couldn't do.

But if you jam that SDCard in at the right time, for me it seemed immediately before the "do-do" enumeration (or about 7 seconds from pushing power to boot the recovery image, as the instructions mention), then the loop suddenly broke with can't find file error.

Its not easy -- especially with the size of the card, and fighting against the spring-loaded eject mechanism of the SDCard, but with persistance, I think you can get it! :)

-gripper
[Droid Incredible General] zeiroe:
so at the 0 count i pop the sdcard in and out real quick?
[Droid Incredible General] dreamersipaq:
Not really

This method isn't about popping in and out. Personally, I think that can damage your sdcard port. It's about inserting the card at the right time. When you hit the power button to go into recovery, that's 0. (0 seconds from when you hit power). If that doesn't work, you increase the time interval by 1/3 to a 1/2 second. So when you do the procedure the second time you're going to insert your sd card 1/3 to 1/2 second AFTER you hit power. If that doesn't work, redo and increase time again. Eventually, you'll either get the error you're looking for or get to about 12 seconds, at which time you have to restart at 0.

I'll be honest, it took me going from 0 to 12, 2 times before I hit the right time and got in. Took about 1 to 1 1/2 hours. My card throws the error between 7 and 8 seconds after I hit the power button. I know this now, and can recreate the error every time on 1 to 2 tries.

So far it seems like that there are two camps. The first camp gets the error somewhere between 2 to 5 seconds depending on card, and the second camp seem to be always between 7 and 8 seconds (rarely 6)..... if you read the replies of this thread, people have been listing the seconds and times. See if you can find your card in one of these replies.

Also, I recommend that you reformat your MicroSD to FAT 32, 1024 bytes and make sure that it's blank with nothing on it.

I hope this helps.
[Droid Incredible General] 4x4r8d:
HELL YEAH! THANK YOU SOOO MUCH!

After trying to figure this out for the past 4 days, I finally got it. And after reading your instructions this was it.

You are so right! It's all about the timing and it only took me the second time, to get it.

Thanks
[Droid Incredible General] dreamersipaq:
:)

You're very Welcome.

Welcome, brother, to the root society :D
[Droid Incredible General] zeiroe:
after days of chasing a fluke on tuesday ... Your method sir has worked consistently multiple times ... My PNY 2GB card timed at 7.5 seconds and have finally recreated the event 5 times! Thank you!
[Droid Incredible General] dreamersipaq:
Welcome

Keep em coming guys... the more phones rooted, the better the modding/hacking support behind the phone. Keep it up!
[Droid Incredible General] MidnighToker:
I'll give this a try when I'm not so frustrated. Been screwing with it for over an hour (before I saw this thread).
[Droid Incredible General] dreamersipaq:
Let me know...

Let me know if it works for you :cool:

P.S.

If you'll notice, I'm really not much of a poster, and this is the first thread I've ever started. Is it "proper forum etiquette" to post on your own thread so much? :o Or should I tone it down?
[Droid Incredible General] 4x4r8d:
Some key point I wanted to add from my last post.

- I did use the 2gb sd card that came with the phone. After reading so many different post I went with the 2gb

- I had the wifi, bt and gps off.

- I did not use the HTC sync software. I used the ADB USB drivers. But when you are in the process waiting for the bootloader, I actually updated the usb drivers for bootloader on that step.

In the past failures I was using the my 16gb sd card. I didn't have time to check the 16gb through the new process. I guess technically it's not a new process, but its more about the Clarification of the Procedure. It is so true, it's all about the timing and not rushing sd card procedure. It's as simple as counting the second.
[Droid Incredible General] dreamersipaq:
Maybe

I can't quite decide if it's at that time or right as the screen turns white to black. In my case (dunno if everyone is the same way), those two events almost happen at the same time so I don't have to choose. And still, I think that because all hardware is created unequally, it will change for people based on their setup.
[Droid Incredible General] SifonX:
Big thanks

Just wanted to thank dreamersipaq a ton for his little guide. Using a combo of your method and the method you linked to (sodpit), I was FINALLY able to root my DINC. Huge thanks!
[Droid Incredible General] dreamersipaq:
Welcome!

Glad it worked for you. Sodpit was a really good read if you're still unsure about the steps of rooting. Everything is explained very well, even gives a couple of extras. I HIGHLY recommend reading it if you're still trying to root w/o success... there are some methods on there that I've seen on XDA, but they look like they've been long forgotten.
[Droid Incredible General] Mach3te:
Thank you dreamersipaq for your guide! I was able to successfully root my HTC Incredible with the Sandisk SD card that came with the phone. I reformatted the card to FAT32 and used your guide, along with Sodpit's to achieve root. Your guide actually was what helped the most, thanks again!

Oh and BTW, I can confirm that timing is DEFINATELY everything with this process. My phone's sweet spot was 6-7 seconds just as the "click" is heard before the red exclamation point appears.
[Droid Incredible General] RdBrd83:
I normally hate thank you posts, but I have to say thanks!!!!

After trying pretty much every method I could come across, and much frustration, yours is the method that did the trick. I used an old 1GB SanDisk card I had lying around because I was worried about messing up my main card with all the popping in and out. Mine worked at 7.5 seconds, which was immediately after my computer made the first usb notification sound (may have been a complete coincidence)

I'm on the .79 HBOOT, formatted the card FAT32 1024K cluster.
[Droid Incredible General] SR3TLAW:
...

Great to hear everyones got it down.

Curious, whats the update on the simple (not that this wasnt hard, very strait forward) root, like the application, plug it in, press a button and thats that.
[Droid Incredible General] commissionerg:
Thank you for your instructions you help me be able to get the infamous error everytime now. My sweet spot was about 7.5 seconds.
[Droid Incredible General] The_Law2:
Awesome thanks so much, 7.5 secs here with stock 2GB SD card.
[EVO 4G General] eduardmc:
At this moment im playing with a nexus one (tmobil). I have a evo 4g with sense and bugless beast rom. The rom made my phone snappier and i have not use a task killer or rebooted it since i installed the rom. This rom (i have not try other roms yet) is still has fast as day one when it was install. Playing with the nexus one and the stock 2. 1 rom is actually choppier than mt evo. Scrolling and on the web. This is my sister phone and rhe only app she has install is app killer and some games. I did a reboot to see if would make a different and still choppier than my evo. I played on both raging thunder 2. And both ran about the same with similar fps. The onlt different is the nexua screen look alive with more vibrant color.

I believe that with a custom rom the nexus is faster but the nexus has been out for a long time already. In my opinion, the evo 4g will be just has good. Give it a few month cause this is only thebbeginning for the phone.
[General Questions and Answers] pistou:
I thought I knew how to fix this sort of thing but obviously I was wrong!

OK, so I installed a couple of World Cup apps, to see which one I liked the best. My first mistake was deleting the cab files from both my PC and device, thinking, "Why do I need to keep these? Once the World cup is over, I'll uninstall the apps anyway." Consequently, I can't remember the name of the one I uninstalled (doh!). It may have been something like "Soccer Updater": I tried searching for it, both in this forum and via Google, but could find nothing that matched -- the closest was something by Emoze, but that looked like a Symbian app, so I discounted it.

The one I kept was "World Cup 2010", from http://www.mobilepractices.com/. The other one I installed never seemed to update -- I even tried setting an option that would apparently do the updates automatically, but that didn't appear to work either. So I uninstalled the app. My second mistake (in case you haven't caught it already) was to have failed to undo the auto-update feature of the app before uninstalling it: what I think is happening is that the auto-update command is attempting to execute, but can't find the app so it complains with a message saying that Fifia2010.exe cannot be found (executing around 03:00, but not every day).

Now I thought there was a way I could fix this using FdcSoft's Task Manager, but I poked around looking for something that would lead me to this executable (the Notifications and Services tabs were what I thought to be the most likely) but no joy. I then searched through the registry for "Fifa201" and "Fifa2010.exe" but there were no matches.

Any help/advice/pointers would be appreciated.
[General Questions and Answers] Corwin9S:
- uninstall all the applications involved (get the list in the usual list on application installed)

- reboot your phone

- connect to PC

- browse the "program files" directories to see if there is some remaining folders of the uninstalled applications

- if so found, delete (or to be sure, just rename in old_xxxx)

- reboot your phone

- réinstall world cup 2010

- reboot your phone

- check if the soft was correctly installed

- try it
[General Questions and Answers] pistou:
Thanks, Corwin95, but the scan of "program files" turned up nothing suspicious.
[General Questions and Answers] pistou:
OK, I understand the move, but it appears to have placed this post in obscurity!
[General Questions and Answers] pistou:
Seems I was right: this /has/ been relegated to obscurity -- bump!
[Desire General] mahendraji:
Hi guys,

I am going thru this problem for last 3 days .

Market in my phone always show this message with every new download .

I done the hard reset . But now i stuck again but this time.its worse as i can't loginto my google account .

I am in shanghai. So i hope its not blocking of google android services in china .

:mad:
[Desire General] liamstears:
Where in the rom is the settings for earpiece volume? I find in a call too quiet and want to increase it a bit. And before anyone asks yes it is turned up full when in a call lol
[Desire General] teitiel:
Want this too

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[Desire General] landwomble:
are you on a T-mobile ROM?

If so, reflash with the HTC vanilla one. It fixes this.
[Desire General] j2kquest:
Can you explain in a bit more detail please.

Im using richards rom........if i flash a vanilla rom does that downgrade me to 1.6
[Desire General] ephumuris:
No it puts you at stock 2.1 Htc Sense.
[Desire General] liamstears:
So whats the change in vanilla from richards so we can all add this hack to our own roms to increase volume??
[Desire General] fakts13:
i think the hack/mod is the no echo mod. i believe it turns down the volume so the person on the other end of the call can't hear the speaker? i've never had an echo problem so i don't use that version and i have relatively no problems hearing the other person (and my hearing is horrible). so maybe try flashing a non no-echo mod update. or you might have to reflash .9b full first then the uvoc (if you use that), depends on if the uvoc non-echo has the audio mod files in it or not
[Desire General] sfjuocekr:
I think it has more todo with the way people damage their ears.

Personally my volume bar is on the first notch from lowest, one press lower its zero and I can hear everything fine.

My housemate playing with my phone in turn puts the volume to max and is still complaining its too low ...

It is hard to understand what someone else hears, but I can not understand that the distorted sound comming out of the earplugs at max volume can be too soft for someone to hear properly. Maybe if you don't clean your ears at all I dont know :s

The sound from the earplugs at max volume during a conversation is still audibe to me. So another question arises, do you want others to hear your converstation? Or do I just have sensitive ears?
[Desire General] landwomble:
not sure of reason

I noticed it with the headphone out level. I plug into a stereo in the kitchen sometimes and the level was way below line-level. There's something in the T-Mobile ROM that's done this, whether deliberate or not I don't know. The vanilla official HTC one doesn't do this, and has normal output level.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] furb3t:
I'm working about Planet Rom GTX Project. These are some screenshots. At the moment I'm testing Rom in ITA mui (I do not have enough time to test rom in WWE mui).

If you like my work please comment in this post, and if you'd help me, please contact me or offer me a beer.

Some feature:

- Build sys 23569 (but i'm ready for new sys!!)

- Compression LZX

- Ram 107mb

- Package used: Mega_dopod

- Additionals Tools : Showcase, Advance config, FingerKeyboard, EZinputSelection, SmsChat, Pimbackup, M2DC, XDA_UC, Arkswitch

- Browser: Opera 10 Mobile

- Google Maps: 4.01 (with voice recognition)

and other.....

To do list:

- Test Rom with WWE Mui

- Upgrade some jpeg

- Optimize some link

Waiting for your comments .................
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Germypan:
Oh fantastic, i'm interesting to your rom!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ssnake12:
Always Different

Nice looking rom, I'm glad there are chefs that continue to keep this device fresh , multi-functional and finger friendly.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] filinawa:
Awesome,

let see the rom and i would buy you a beer......

I like the bright colour , everybody seems to use a dark background..... sooo

let see you beautiful rom and get you a beer... :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] filinawa:
We also want an english version chef ,

please make it happen ............. all the best
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ePocket:
Hi,

I need to get back the default keyboard that existed in previous versions of WM 6.1x in my new HTC with wm 6.5x.

Does anyone know how to do?
[EVO 4G General] ryangroth5:
seems like that could extend the range, moving the antenna external to the case would be easy. it'd be a snap to find the 802.11 antenna.
[EVO 4G General] zone23:
Don't think I would like the wire hanging out.
[EVO 4G General] timkdodson:
I sent the following today to the following email addresses:

To:

dan(at)sprint

sprintcares(at)sprint

Peter_Chou(at)htc

HT_Cho(at)htc

Fred_Liu(at)htc

Keith_Nowak(at)htc

John_Wang(at)htc

Cher_Wang(at)htc

Mark_Baker(at)htc

Hello,

I am a brand new customer that came over from AT&T to buy the HTC EVO 4G.

I have been mostly happy with the phone, but very unhappy about the 30 FPS cap on the graphics ... the Nexus One runs on the same hardware and is able to push 60FPS or more. To add insult to injury, my EVO's screen is starting to separate at the bottom of the device, which means I am going to have to either return it or exchange it for a new EVO prior to the 30 day limit. At first I was content to just exchange my EVO for a new one, but here are my concerns:

1. Are these problems going to be fixed? If I get a new EVO, will HTC/Sprint ever fix the graphics problem? Will I have another instance of hardware failure (screen separation)? Further reading on this topic here: (links removed due to XDA policy)

2. I bought and paid about $30 to have a ZAGG shield installed on the face of the EVO (lifetime warranty permanent screen protector) ... if I exchange my EVO, there is another $30 I am paying. What happens if I keep having hardware failures? Do I have to pay $30 each time to have my ZAGG shield replaced? Unacceptable!

3. Screen Responsiveness - The top part of my EVO is not very responsive, possibly due to a improperly grounded screen. Yet another reason I have to return it. Unfortunately, there are none in my area so I have to wait until they come in. Will the new one have the same problems?

4. WiFi strength on the EVO is lackluster at best. More reading here: (Link removed due to XDA policy)

5. Evo 4G is the first 4G phone - too bad you can hardly ever get 4G reception and when you do, the speed is not nearly what Sprint has advertised. This is not a dealbreaker because this phone has so many great qualities, but the speed tests that I and others have done show that the speed on the 4G is not that great, not even better than AT&T's iPhone 3GS speeds much of the time. Very sad.

I would like to say I am going to be a loyal Sprint and HTC customer for many years, but with all these issues I am seriously considering returning my phone and cancelling my service within the 30 day window.

Can you help me understand how these problems will be fixed? What is your time frame for fixing them? Are the Sprint and HTC teams even aware of these issues and are you looking into them? I have found I love Android phones now, but I can just as easily cancel my contract and move to T-Mobile who supports a wide variety of Android phones (Nexus One, anyone?). Please help me understand why it is best to stay with Sprint and HTC. I *want* to be a loyal customer, but I need to know that my concerns are being heard and addressed.

Thank you in advance for your time!

Sincerely,

Tim D.
[EVO 4G General] timkdodson:
Also - Mods - can I get verified? How do I make that happen? Thanks, Tim.
[EVO 4G General] themyst:
At least you didn't ***** about the 10 dollar Premium Data. That + former AT&T customer = nice letter :)
[EVO 4G General] timkdodson:
Thanks ... I tried to keep it as positive as I could. I have had pretty good luck getting things accomplished with EECB's that are positive. (I recently had my Dell XPS m1730 repaired out of warranty after I aired my concerns to Dell)

I hope we can find a resolution. The EVO is a GREAT phone plagued by a few problems that hopefully can be resolved one way or another.

Edit: Perhaps if some other forum members would like to write up their own letters and send them, maybe we can get some movement on this.
[EVO 4G General] ejittles:
Pull your ZAGG screen off and then get a warranty replacement for $5 shipping. They replace it free if you replace your device.
[EVO 4G General] timkdodson:
Thank you for that tip about the ZAGG shield - I was not aware of that... I will have to wait until the last second though to make sure I actually get a new EVO from Radio Shack :)
[EVO 4G General] Breakthecycle2:
Maybe if we all send nice letters, we could MAYBE at least get the source.
[EVO 4G General] timkdodson:
Bump!

Nobody else has sent an EECB? might be a good way to get some much needed attention for these problems...
[EVO 4G General] redct:
I was planning to and then got side-tracked. I shall later tonight. Much thanks for bringing it to my attention again!
[EVO 4G General] eck0728:
My only complaint is the serious lack of WIFI, and even when i do have it the speeds are terrible. also 4g isn;t official in my area but i get it sometimes 1 or 2 bars max (only in 1 spot outside my house its kinda odd). The speeds are hitting close to 4mbps for me. I hope they finish installing 4g in the boston area.
[EVO 4G General] nosaj13:
So are those all the email addresses I need to email? Are they all .com?
[EVO 4G General] redct:
Well, I just EECB'd them, putting a particular slant on the issue of releasing the source. I have a gut feeling that HTC is working to do this, but it would be really nice to get a straight answer out of them. (So, be nice to HTC.)
[EVO 4G General] Freelancerx:
nicely written
[EVO 4G General] timkdodson:
GREAT JOB. Very nicely written.

On another note, I have been reading about what may be Sprint's 2nd 4G phone, the Samsung Galaxy S Pro... I am thinking of returning my EVO and waiting for the Galaxy to drop... too many problems with the EVO. The sad thing is I have to do it within the 30 day money back timeframe, so I am quickly going to be coming up on a hard stop.... ARGH!
[EVO 4G General] redct:
Instant response: f**k yeah!

EDIT: Got an reply from Dan Hesse's office saying that they'll reply w/more info within the next day or so.
[EVO 4G General] timkdodson:
WAY TO GO! that is freaking awesome!!

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[EVO 4G General] EliWay:
I wouldn't be surprised if Phillip is a lurker or even a member on XDA ;)
[EVO 4G General] redct:
That was from mid-tier customer support, so we'll also see if Sprint/HTC exec level people reply. Also, time to wait for the source code.

...looks like it's a waiting game now.
[EVO 4G General] nosaj13:
This is great news. Good job!!!
[EVO 4G General] AdamLJ:
I registered just to say that this is great news. Hopefully it leads to a resolution.
[EVO 4G General] Fixter:
I am so Bookmarking this Thread. :D
[EVO 4G General] Vinny75:
It's a canned response. I got the same thing (down to the misspelled 'sourc') about 20 minutes earlier in response to my request for the source.
[EVO 4G General] rutter9:
Guys this is just an appeasement of customer support, that's what they're trained to do.
[EVO 4G General] sfox8:
Well we can't expect them to personalize every response. I'm sure they're getting a lot of emails about this. At least we know that they're at least aware of the community's concerns. I'm sure HTC is not just sitting on their behinds doing nothing.
[EVO 4G General] Vinny75:
I sent this to sprint ecare as well.
[EVO 4G General] cary328is:
That's awesome Vinny! Please keep us posted on their response
[EVO 4G General] Vinny75:
Did you get an activity ID from HTC's customer service with your response? I went to their Global ContactUS System and replied to their response:

Hoping they can't close the ticket if a reply is pending... I imagine like any other business they hate having open support tickets