yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[EVO 4G General] -viperboy-:
I would be happy to test for you, already have the cable and an HDTV waiting! :)
[EVO 4G General] berkmanmd:
This is the single most important thing I'm looking for in CM6...I'll gladly donate to whoever sorts it out
[EVO 4G General] VOODOOTRIP:
Just in case you skimmed through the thread... The op has stopped working on this.
[EVO 4G General] r.mauldin:
Bump for more info and updates.
[EVO 4G General] zonyl:
To play a video, you need to install debian chroot, mplayer, and then use the following command:

$ mplayer -vo fbdev2:/dev/graphics/fb1 movie.avi

I was trying to come up with a quick simple solution this weekend to display the UI on HDMI (dd, fbgrab, fbvnc, libofbis, etc) and nothing panned out.

I was hoping fbgrab would be able to do the fb conversion but it cant seem to decode the raw data correctly from the main screen. Im going to grab the source for it, play a little more, and see if I can get that going.
[EVO 4G General] oakey66:
I have a Micro HDMI out. I'd be willing to test it out.
[EVO 4G General] bradleyw801:
Good work! PLEASE keep us updated. That is more progress than anyone has made on this. I am not a developer and some of those terms are a little over my head, but if you have a simple way for me to implement this, PM me.

If it works, you can send me your paypal email and I will hook you up. Probably just enough to buy lunch, but maybe more depending on how much it can actually do. :) Thanks again!
[EVO 4G General] wrxlvr:
Keep up the good work!
[EVO 4G General] berkmanmd:
what kind of video did you try playing? i used a couple different videos and i could only get a weird yellowish tint to export out of the hdmi port...

any luck with fbgrab? i've been messing around with it for a couple days, but haven't had it working correctly yet
[EVO 4G General] zonyl:
I was playing mpg's and 3gp's recorded on the phone (under CM6). FBgrab definitely has issues and will have to wait till the weekend to find time to look into it further.

I have turned over what information I had to another developer who is looking at making an app to clone the Android UI Display to the HDMI port. They have experience with the Android FB specifics and publishing to the market . Hopefully there will be some news on that shortly!
[EVO 4G General] jimmyeason:
Full UI Via HDMI

Dont know if your still looking for testers or not if so im down. I do have the hdmi cord. You cah add me at jimmyeason1980@gmail.com
[EVO 4G General] bradleyw801:
That's smart. There is a guy named Gman in the Droid X forums that has sucessfully done this on a non-rooted Droid X running 2.1.

I signed up for this forum and PM'd him and asked if he would help us out. His progress is impressive. I will let you guys know if he gets back to me. I can't post links, but just replace the X's with appropriate letters.

XXX.droidxforums.XXX/forum/droid-x-general-discussion/4259-droid-x-does-hdmi-yep-i-am-man-11.html
[EVO 4G General] berkmanmd:
I bought Gman's Real HDMI market in the app (just hit today) and it does not work with the Evo :( Maybe we can reach out to him to try to support it...

Our best bet would be to have the CM folks figure it out natively. Gman was using the HDMI API to mirror the screen images out to HDMI, I think...
[EVO 4G General] bradleyw801:
I am already on it. I have been corresponding with him to try to get him to create it for the Evo. He said I am not the first, and that he will look into the possiblity. He asked for some file libraries on my phone and I gave him what I had. I told him I would send him a 15" LCD TV with an HDMI cable if he would start work on it.

I just PM'd him again this morning asking if now that he has a Droid X beta out, if he will work on the EVO. I will let you guys know what he says.
[EVO 4G General] bluefire808:
Your guys want the entire UI displayed on the tv right? Because all the videos i play work just fine and i can get some really good quality out of my 30 somethint inch flat screen
[EVO 4G General] ImJacksAmygdala:
Words cannot express how badly I want this functionality. I would gladly purchase an app that does this.

I'm Shocked that Sprint, Verizon, HTC, and Motorola haven't been screamed at for crippling HDMI out! This draconian mobile media licensing is restricting the functionality of the devices. It should be treated no different than a laptop. This crap just makes me want to use my evo in landscape with mouse and keyboard on an HDMI monitor even more! Then I will proceed to use mass quantities of 3G bandwidth streaming Hulu, Sprint TV, Sprint NFL, Youtube, and Slingbox out of spite! The genie is out of the bottle and Pandora's box has been opened! Fix your business model before you cripple the device assholes.
[EVO 4G General] ndboost:
I have a micro HDMI to full HDMI cable and im willing to test this.

Added you to gtalk.
[EVO 4G General] detcup4evr:
Hey just an FYI, I got the following response last night from GMan (Real HDMI for the DroidX Developer)

Gman to me

show details 9:51 PM (21 hours ago)

I think I might know how to do it on an evo. Been digging through roms I got off the net. My current obsticle is I dont have an evo and am 2 weeks into a 4 week backorder from sprint. I am trying to work out a deal with a guy who has one with a cracked screen that he says he will send me for free. But he has not "really" committed to doing so yet. Once I get some hardware into my hands going to lock myself in my cave and see if I can figure it out.
[EVO 4G General] chrishornet:
i got an hdmi cable i will test
[EVO 4G General] sturmen:
I can also test.
[EVO 4G General] NCHEVYHEVN:
Awesome! I just ordered my hdmi cable yesterday so I'm ready!
[EVO 4G General] Drewmungus:
I have a cable and am willing to test
[EVO 4G General] ThaDSman:
My cable should be comming in soon, i can also help test.
[EVO 4G General] ThaDSman:
My cable came in....and this project looks dead....
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Just got my cable today.... but yeah this project seems dead
[EVO 4G General] xguntherc:
So basically, Currently the only thing you can do with HDMI is watch movies that are on your phone. Output to a Tv, or a slide show of your photo's. And that is all?

You can't watch NFL games with the NFL Mobile app with HDMI out, or anything like that?
[EVO 4G General] Jodeit:
NFL Mobile works through HDMI on stock EVO
[EVO 4G General] sling:
Hack allowing HDMI-3 connection would be nice
[EVO 4G General] treckin:
I wonder if we could just ***** up a storm like we did with the fps cap? Just need to get a few hundred people sending emails!
[EVO 4G General] abmone:
Thats a good idea. It did work for the cap.
[EVO 4G General] knives of ice:
it makes zero sense because they had full video out with the touch pro and touch pro2, even if it wasn't hdmi
[EVO 4G General] rockstatus90:
Family guy reference: Tom Tucker: "whats the status of this project Olly?"

Olly: "IT'S DEAD!"........
[EVO 4G General] swaydude:
Is this project dead or still alive?
[EVO 4G General] Jrock55:
It looks dead for us, but there was an article on Engadget today about some people doing something similar to this project with that one phone that apple makes that people seem to think is so great.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/29/58-inch-table-connect-for-iphone-multitouch-surface-easily-dwarf/
[EVO 4G General] -viperboy-:
There are copyright issues, that's why it's disabled. I have no idea why the TP and TP2 were allowed to have it but my guess is some laws changed between than and now about this.
[EVO 4G General] JUST2SUAVE:
This is true
[EVO 4G General] jobryan26:
I think it might have to do with the outputs of analog vs digital (Digital Millennium Copyright Act). I don't know, just guessing... :)
[EVO 4G General] ekoulak:
Any progress?
[EVO 4G General] dtr145r:
mm

id love if full hdmi would work.

willing to donate 50 -75 dollars if this ever works!
[EVO 4G General] detcup4evr:
Bump

The last HDMI theard I was following has died. I am wondering if Anyone knows of any other thread I can follow, so I can stay updated on this. I know Cyanogen is working on a ROM, but the other thread was working on an installable one that would work on Sense. I would rather not lose sense or flash a new rom to get full HDMI.
[EVO 4G General] Holyrolla:
Shinzul (of CM7-WiMAX fame) is working on it with #TeamWin, but there's no thread to follow...yet...
[EVO 4G General] wampuscat:
They (orrebmas or sumthin to that affect) started a new thread about 4 days ago needing alpha testers .he requested some people pm him with there phone and tv setup and he'd send it out. I was #3 . So I subscribed to the thread and got one notification. When I click on it ,it takes me to that xda permissions page sayin I can't access it. And now I can't even find the thread now. Weird

Edit. This was the only notification I got. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=946015&goto=newpost.
[EVO 4G General] brokentoaster24:
orrebmas's thread was deleted for violating xda rules. He was basically collecting donations for no published work yet (debatable)

Anyway, he's posting his work on android central now I believe. He's made some real progress though
[EVO 4G General] Dan330:
do you have a link?
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
there was... but all the posts were deleted... :rolleyes: lol so no evidence.
[EVO 4G General] Deathalo:
This is bull ****, apparently teamwin got pissed that he was essentially stealing their donations because he was getting this done before them. I think it's completely immature of xda to kill something that MANY people want done, it really keeps other devs from doing great work. I really want to test his app and follow his work if anyone can point me to the right place.
[EVO 4G General] -shift-:
yes, because teamwin has so much power over who gets banned and who stays on xda... *sigh* ....this is quite possibly the dumbest and most ludicrous post i've ever come across.

there's no conspiracy. rules were broken. that's why bans happen. when rules are broken...

let me reiterate that again...

he was banned because he broke xda rules.​

these accusations are simply getting out of hand now. sheesh...
[EVO 4G General] spiicytuna:
Clearly with your limited post count you don't know the rules on XDA so instead of being mean I will just cut to the chase. The thread/dev you mention was shut down because the dev was in violation of XDA forum rules #8 and #11. This had NOTHING to do with #teamwin. Nor does #teamwin ask for donation. If someone wants to give one, sure, but never asking/begging -- nor do we really care about $$. We are in the mindset of helping the community vs. anything else. Last of all #teamwin has NO power over XDA in the grand scheme of things. Hell the EVO forum is just one of many many many others....you do the math and tell me how #teamwin could have this magical power you elude to.

FYI: there are 3 other dev's working on the same HDMI out project so something will be available soon.

Cheers!
[EVO 4G General] gzibell:
It has already been explained that teamwin/cyanogen had nothing to do with the disappearance of these threads. Xda killed them because the OP violated rules #8 and #11 of xda. So apparently...you are making rash assumptions with no evidence to back them up. This makes you sound kinda silly.

I am just as upset and disappointed as everyone else and wish the threads had not been killed but there are rules for a reason. Even if you don't agree rules are rules and we can't change what happened. Please don't push blame around if your not up to speed on what happened. I followed both of the threads pertaining to hdmi and another after it was closed. Rules got broked and that's it. Teamwin offered to help with development. We don't need to start a flame war or anything..just wanted to throw my .02 in and a little explanation about what actually happened.

On a side note. The OP is still working on the project just not posting it here.

and teamwin is working there own and will post here once they get it on an alpha/beta stage. (assuming)

Finally no I am in no way connected to teamwin or development of the project.

Apparently shift_ spiicytuna and my selfs all were writing our posts at the exact same time. :-)
[EVO 4G General] Dan330:
^^^ same exact time??? for them not you.. 6 hrs later.... :P

i could be wrong.. it took you 6 hrs to write it. ...LOL jk with ja

please link us to the other 3 hdmi project threads. thanks a bunch.
[EVO 4G General] gzibell:
The three threads are closed/killed/locked. that time code thing is strange. I swear when I started writing those other two wern't there. I think the time code is showing wrong. Or something. or I am going crazy and they had already posted I just didn't read/see.......hmm
[EVO 4G General] dkelle4:
They didn't say there are 3 other threads, just that there are 3 other people working on it.
[EVO 4G General] mkeena0305:
I believe we will see hdmi when orrebmas releases his code. He is the only dev making tangible progress
[EVO 4G General] Deathalo:
I wasn't making up what I said, I was just restating what orrebmas told me through PM, that teamwin wanted his code and his thread would get unlocked when he shared it. Don't get lost in the politics, not everyone on XDA is in it just to help people.
[EVO 4G General] -shift-:
yes.. you would know more about what teamwin wants... more than teamwin itself... yep...

it's irrelevant on what others want from xda, teamwin only contributes to the community for the good of the community. you have no basis for your claims about teamwin. you merely have an opinion of what the "other side" has told you. so kindly be quiet about things you do not know of.

thanks.
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
lol ... see... you, my friend are also blindly following what he told you.
[EVO 4G General] eyeballer:
Yes, some people are on xda to make money, which is in fact the reason orrebmas's thread was closed, because that violates xda's rules.

PS: In before the thread lock.
[EVO 4G General] skydeaner:
Lol I bet they will just thoroughly clean this thread, not permalock it. Still it is as bad as saying bloody Mary three times to say orrebma.
[EVO 4G General] Holyrolla:
Whoa...serious accusations...is orrebma willing to support that with PM's or something?

Better yet, why get emotional about something that's going to happen one way or another. Whatever the true story is, it's certainly not worth a heart attack worrying about it. Orrebma is on AC with his progress...so nothing has been stopped...soooo...no reason to be upset and launching allegations.

Can't we all just get along?????

PS: I took Spiicy's advice on the last hateful HDMI thread and reported it...probably why that one got removed. So what did we learn...?
[EVO 4G General] sling:
orrebmas's pizza looked good but we never got a slice so it got shut down went out of business
[EVO 4G General] dills2214:
yeah, you definitely know the whole story....

So odd that I got this email the other night with another build of full HDMI out.... must be falling from the sky.
[EVO 4G General] sling:
So your reporting it didn't go out of business ,That's good news thanks for sharing info
[EVO 4G General] brokentoaster24:
Personally I have tested orrebmas's hdmi app and it works (kinda). He violated the rules by collecting, though not actually asking for, donations without making a public release. In previous threads he had mentioned considering releasing his code. maybe if enough people find and donate to him we could make this a true community achievement rather than flaming about it. I'd rather see collaborations than hating :p

/rant
[EVO 4G General] spiicytuna:
Shinzul published his PM exchange with orrebmas on the last thread-- it clearly showed that orrebmas was only looking to profit off of his work and he wanted this even before he had a working product (violation of XDA rules #8 and #11) If you truly have these "PM's" I'd suggest you post them; If not -- it never happened and your just crying for attention.

AND that is the problem. You summed it up right there. Why should anyone have to donate to any dev for their work. XDA used to be and should be a place, a community, that helps the betterment of a device that we all have a passion for. If you hire the dev to work on a project, GREAT, but keep it off XDA. If you use something a dev did and you're blown away by it, donate, but you should NEVER feel forced to donate. That just goes against XDA on all levels. #teamwin, whether you choose to believe it or not, is here to better the community and provide work w/o donations and simply to better the HTC EVO community. If someone likes our stuff and wants to donate, GREAT, no pressure to though; AT ALL.

*TWO Thumbs up* -- NO ONE is above XDA policy despite what some people try to sell. If threads are reported, the XDA mods look at it and in the grand scheme of things HTC EVO is a small small piece of the grand XDA puzzle (read: there is NOT special treatment).

If ANYONE has any issues with a thread, post, or user, report them by clicking << Mods will look and see what is up.

Cheers!
[EVO 4G General] awdtalondsm:
Yes please do post your PM exchange. I've read the one in the other thread and it clearly showed that #teamwin only wanted to HELP whereas the Dev just wanted to profit.
[EVO 4G General] rugedraw:
lol....here we go again.

I donated $10 to orrebmas today. I bought him a pizza. Maybe it will provide him with enough nutrition and sustenance to be able to finish the project.

Those that support him, donate to him and help him get us what we want. His is on Android Central and a Google search away.

Those that don't, wait for the other 3 devs to come out with it since your communist mentality cannot comprehend someone wanting money for their work. He broke XDA rules....not moral/ethical rules. It's not like he raped anybody. Well, people still like Kobe and Big Ben, so I guess wanting money for your work is worse than rape.

Or perhaps you guys want to get yet ANOTHER HDMI thread closed?
[EVO 4G General] DomSim:
spiicy is saying the same thing, the teamwin offered to help and whatshisdouche said no cause he wanted to turn this into a profit. which to be honest, is totally fine. if you have the skill to create something that people want to pay for, then more power to you. where he went wrong was wanting money up front for it, or to be a tester. if he kept his mouth quiet and finished his work with testers and then threw it on the market he could have made that money too. seems he just got greedy and got himself banned.

even if he did get it on the market and start making a profit, it would be short lived as someone else would come along shortly and make it for free (teamwin!)
[EVO 4G General] bcarter2000:
orrebmas

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Hi all,

I was asked to be a little less open with this project's updates because they will draw competitive attention and get ppl excited too early. Instead of responding to their PM I will post it here, to clear up any confusion.

First, this project's goal is to enable everybody to use HDMI out like its supposed to be used, so being secretive only hurts this project as it limits the input from community on how to improve and ideas to implement.

Second, when I started this project I was not planning on making money on it, I did not even have a donate button, which I added after some generous guys and girls asked me to. When I started putting heavy time into it and found out how involved it is, yea I thought of launching it to the market to make up for the free time spent away from family and infront of my pc.

That being said, competitive attention will only push both end products to supreme and the community wins anyways.

As for releasing updates very early in the project, this is really to show people that things are happening and the project is moving forward, especially those who donated to see this on their phone.

So far 6 donations have been received, and they do make a difference. So thank you lots.

The part in bold can be seen as a violation to rule# 8, but work was done, and video was posted showing the work done.

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Been out of town since the 27th of Jan like I mentioned before. Development will resume on Monday when i return, main goal will be to package everything I have into an apk ppl can test, then work on improving the functionality. So expect a new YouTube progress report by the end if next week or so.

I was asked about how much to donate to become a tester; you do NOT have to donate to become a tester. Once in alpha I will post here for testers.

These were the last two posts from orrebmas on this thread.

I have no idea what was PM'd. But to me this doesn't look like a man trying to swindle people for money, but you never know.
[EVO 4G General] spiicytuna:
I agree with this 1000000000000%

I want the guy to make his money. But his method and his cocky bravado of "hell I will even make some $$ off my testers" was just wrong. Look at the setCPU guys. They give their app to XDA members, have free beta testing with xda members, and still sell in the market. Hands down this is the model that XDA rules allow for. Talking to the setCPU guy last time, he does pretty well with this model and hell 1/2 the ppl off XDA bought the market app too just to support the dev, I know I did.

Sounds like you should just put the guy on your personal payroll or maybe he should be paying you a commission for your advertising on XDA?? *shrug* one or the other has to be true.

Cheers!
[EVO 4G General] awdtalondsm:
I wish these was an "un-Thanks" button. Sounds like you are over here advertising/supporting what the guy did and wanting everyone to come over your side of the street and support this guy. I hope he does get something in the market just to be undermined by a free version on XDA—that would be the ultimate slap in the face, huh?
[EVO 4G General] iDroidFan:
So is there no eta for alpha?
[EVO 4G General] -shift-:
i'd quote spiicytuna with a +1, but his posts are just huge (but still correct).

it's really not about a slapfest (though it would be pretty funny). it's about having principles and following rules. with that said, i'm all for giving out epic slaps to the appropriate people.
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
Reminds me of when TJDuckett started taking requests for personal themes then in PMs he wanted to charge me 50-100$ for a Redskins theme.
[EVO 4G General] -shift-:
lmao i remember that.. if only he actually knew good design as well...
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
I definitely wasn't a fan of his "kuma style" theme that's for sure.
[EVO 4G General] -shift-:
i was new to the whole theme-ing scene back then, but not new to design. it made my eyes bleed...
[EVO 4G General] jpatterson350:
I sure hope this is false because I thought we were a dev "community" I was so excited... bad move xda.

JP
[EVO 4G General] Shinzul:
I don't want to get caught up in this thread at all, but I can guarantee you this is not the case. I just wanted to help...
[EVO 4G General] RileyGrant:
Geniusdog254, nice to see a familiar face over from the Nook section. Starting to feel lost getting into a whole new device.Cheers. (:
[EVO 4G General] selders59:
I don't know which gave me a worse headache? 1) The continuous rants for 7 pages or 2) my dumba$$ for sitting here reading them! OMG!

"Walk by Faith-not by Sight"
[EVO 4G General] rugedraw:
I've seen several posts on other threads directly linking the thread to the other site. My point was not to advertise nor for anyone to come to "my side of the street". As I said in the other thread, all I want is HDMI out to work. Free is good, but I don't mind shelling out a few bucks to get something I want. I'd rather pay $5 and get it now than wait 3 months and get it free. That's just me, though. My problem is with everyone making this guy out to be some kind of super-villain just because wanted to make money off of this.

awdtalondsm: Maybe you can PM a mod about your "un-thanking" me. It's free......right up your alley.

I also think that this convo should not be taking place on Geniusdog254's thread. I won't be commenting on this subject again on this or any other thread. I did what I felt was right for the cause. You guys do the same.