yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] msticninja:
This is a great app for an independent developer, and I love to see the little guys get ahead, but I do wonder what's going to happen to everyone that helped with logs and suggestions in the beta phase. Since most devs don't cook beta timeouts into their beta releases, the supporters still get to use the beta version after the program goes gold, or can choose to pay for the final, and maybe even get a discount. With your timeouts, you can go gold and not worry about anyone using or distributing a workable version without paying. I understand and support the tactic, I'd just hate to see xda, which is kind of the home of freeware/opensource coding for WM, get used as a playground for greedy devs.

Personally, you don't owe me anything, I haven't helped at all, as I just got turned on to this thread, and haven't been able to get a non-expired cab yet. I just don't see alot of stuff on xda with a retail destination, so I was intrigued to know what your plans for the future are regarding the beta testers. I always wondered what happened to chainfire's beta testers when WMWifiRouter went gold.

Please, I hope nobody takes this as calling ajhvdb as a greedy dev, or chainfire for that matter. Seriously not trying to...

P.S. What does ajhvdb stand for? Angelina Jolie Has Very Delicious Breasts? ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] genoki:
I just installed it (for first time) and got the same expired message too. Am I somehow transported to the future? .. I had better buy a lottery ticket : )

application sleepsense expired after 16 days of use

version .650 beta (build 3836)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DrQuincy:
The expiration "date" starts on the beta issue date. It seems to be a hard date rather than a number of days. The dev stated on this thread that he will post an updated .cab today. He took a vacation during the latest beta period.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] genoki:
Thanks, i missed that distinction.

Looking forward to his new cab to try out.

There are other similar tools/services eg Fitbit but for some reason they require you to upload data to their websites. whats up with that anyways? really bugs me. I want to keep that data private. so any tool that facilitates that is interesting to me.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
Hi,

I've updated the cab file and have uploaded a free version to MarketPlace for testing purposes.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Smitty50:
How in the world do you install this? (on samsung captivate)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] msticninja:
You don't. Please try to read the information people present to you. This app is in a Windows Mobile forum, and you are trying to install it on an Android phone.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Smitty50:
DOH sorry I was tunnel visioned
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] genoki:
Did you put cab in MarketPlace? I just searched for "sleepsense" in that forum and got no results, and search for "sleep" pulls up 7 results but nothing relevant. I also searched marketplace forum "ajhvdb" but no results either. Is "marketplace" not the xda marketplace forum? When I get more time I will try some other searches .. must sleep now : )
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
Yes, but it has to go through all kinds of red tape before you can see it. You can use the cab file in the first post to install it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] futureshock:
why are there timebombs in the betas?!

did you plan to release the final as a buy version?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] denazi:
Installed new version (v1.0- Build 3856) but still cannot run the programme. msgbox "Application SleepSence expired after 10 days of use!"
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Merlin260880:
Hi ajhvdb,

<B1 &A>

I noticed that,will have a look on it and will check if sensor working correct (check after some time with no movement in testing mode).

<B2 &A>

OK, so only via MyDocuments I can access the old chart.

When your popup window appears and ask for adding it to same day, I thought it would add the new log to same day.

So that in the end, you see twice cycle times displayed in one chart.

<B3, B5 &A>

If I remember right, I tried to click on everything possible, but nothing changed.

When I retest it and if click the empty chart it loads the big view.

Problem from my side is, that I didn't remember if I changed SW versions between the test and retest.

So now it displays still a empty chart, but load big view after clicking on empty chart.

I noticed another Bug

Device: HD2

ROM: last original O2 Germany

Radio-Rom: Since 15.07.2010 -> 2.12.50.02_2

Sleep Sense: 100703EB-SleepSense-V0.65-Beta

<B6>

Log: 2010-07-20_0700-0830

Snooze didn't work during first turnaround, only when turnaround twice!

Involved Settings:

-Snooze only turnaround

-"working mode" must be laying down with front -> NO

Phone rings -> turnoraund mobile more than twice to snooze !!NOT WORKED!!

Menu>Snooze>10.Minutes !!WORKED!!

Phone rings after the 10.minutes, I turnaround device one time !!STILL RING!!

turnaround the second time !!WORKS!!

It seems, that the display had to bee on the top, so that snooze the first time works.

But I disabled this with setting "no face down", thougt so it should work.

So hope you enjoyed your vacation, hopefully with nice weather, and get the battery full again :-)

Will send log files to you via Mail.

Cheers Merlin
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cem Kamoy:
Hi,

very nice application. run it yesterday and works fine except one bug I've realized

the application sets the ring and sound volume to maximum everytime when it runs :)

Even when I set the alarm volume in the application to 20% the master volume of WM and phone keeps at max. and that is not very usefull in the middle of the night in bedroom when you click and it BINGS laud :)

ok besided that it would be interesting if we could see the data in raw format.

to be able to use it in 3. party applications.

is it possible to extract it from anywhere or do you just write it into the picture file?

thnks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CtDMonet:
Now that's funny. Does Brett Favre play or retire?

Great app - I just installed the new version -

-Al
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] msticninja:
Now THAT'S funny. Which time? Or will he start playing baseball(badly)?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ubaidabcd:
Thanks for the great work on this app. I only have one feature request, not sure if it will be implemented but, I'll mention it anyway. A talking clock would be great, where there is a voice that speaks the current time when the alarm goes off and you can set an interval for it to repeat every minute or 5 min. etc..

Also, whenever I have the app running and I pick it up it goes into suspend mode is that normal? I have an HTC HD2. I haven't used the app yet, since I just found out about it today so I will check if this has any negative issue tomorrow after I've slept. I did notice that it doesn't seem to go into suspend mode while the app is running face down. Although as soon as I pick it up it does, so I wonder if tomorrow morning when the alarm is going off and I pick it up to shake it for snooze if it goes into suspend mode what will happen.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ubaidabcd:
Well I tested the app last night and I had actually woken up myself before the alarm went off. I had woken up from sleeping and was laying in bed but, then within about 5-10 min. the alarm went off. I'm going to try again tonight maybe with an earlier time so I don't wake up on my own.

I'm checking the stats and I see data in the "Wake Up" and "Sensor" chart but, nothing in the "Sleep" chart, what's the reason for this? I was testing it yesterday during the day and I think it asked me when I setup the new alarm for the next morning it asked me something about an xml existing and if I want to add data to it and I said, "no". Since I thought it would overwrite with a new chart for the night and not use the test data. Was this the issue? I set a new alarm for tomorrow morning but, it didn't ask me the same thing about xml existing.

I don't have any logs since I have that option off, should I enable and send logs if it continues?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] davidgiga:
You can add it to my appstore :) -> XDA Market (Link to the post in my signature)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] funnysam:
Most fun app in WM ever..thank you!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
SleepSense Free (Test version only) should be available on MarketPlace for more then 3 days now...!? but I can't find it yet, to try out the installation.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
Thanks for the nice program.

I have a few questions.

Do you plan to reduce the use of battery power in the near future? What does Level 1-3 mean?

What's the meaning of "Vibrate LedNo"? Remove spikes? Sensor sensivity?

I'd prefer when Sleepsense would not change the system sound settings on every start. Default on my phone is "no sound". Or Sleepsense should set it back to the former value after exit. The actual behaviour could become embarrassing, when I forget to switch the sound off. :-)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] takertx:
How Can I get the .5V?

Hi there people,

I see you all taking wonders of this nifty little application and its upgrade to the .5V but I see no link or attachments pointing to its download' all I get is the first link in the first page of this thread which links to the 100723EB-SleepSense-V1.0-Beta.CAB

Can anyone direct me to the right direction

thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
Q.

Do you plan to reduce the use of battery power in the near future?

A.

I first would like to have it running on the top devices. After this I will remove some debug code.

Q.

What does Level 1-3 mean?

A.

Depending on this level other registry settings in script.txt are set/unset. Only needed if you have problems with auto suspend mode.

Q.

What's the meaning of "Vibrate LedNo"?

A.

If you have trouble with vibration you can manually choose an ID.

Q.

Remove spikes?

A.

Again only when you have problems with the sensitivity you change this.

Q.

Sensor sensivity?

A.

Some sensors are not sensitive enough and you need to adjust the value. In test mode you can see which vaue you need.

Q.

I'd prefer when Sleepsense would not change the system sound settings on every start. Default on my phone is "no sound". Or Sleepsense should set it back to the former value after exit. The actual behaviour could become embarrassing, when I forget to switch the sound off. :-)

A.

Please explain in simple steps when SleepSense doesn't reset the system sound.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
This file is the one to use.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] takertx:
Baffled

But what about all the talk about versions .5 through .53 and even .55 in this forum?

It seems to me like you are going back wards as the file for download on the first page (100723EB-SleepSense-V1.0-Beta.CAB) is wicked old and in beta none the less

What gives? Am I missing something?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ubaidabcd:
Do you understand how the decimal system works?

1.0 > .5 - That means 1.0 is GREATER (more recent) than .5

I haven't had any problems with 1.0 only would like to request additional features but, as far as bugs, I didn't experience any on my HD2.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
Very simple: sound is off, starting SleepSense -> sound is switched to on and stays on after exit.

I'm talking about the sound profile, not the volume level. Omnia II, the 3rd tab in the system-sound-settings: sound completeley "off", not "sound on" and volumelevel "0".
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
I'm not aware of this on my Omnia II. Could you send some screenshots and a yet :) better explanation to the support email address. I will reply to you directly.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
Great to hear..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
If anyone could look on Marketplace and search for SleepSense.

If you can find it, please report back with your settings.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
SleepSense will work with the X2 too :) Thx for the help.

Use this link and install the cab file:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=687198
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mike2nl:
Mhh, can this be possible. Sme says no, some says yes. I will give it a try.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] torickray:
I'm using Omnia pro B7610.

Everything works fine except the Repeat option. I tried to click on Monday, Tuesday..., the program will just exit without saving the setting. It seems not usable, anyway to change it?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] torickray:
yes, I can find it under location United State
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
The Free version doesn't allow "repeat", sorry.

After 6 days I finally found SleepSense too in MarketPlace...I can know see my input and whats is shown on MarketPlace. I will submit an Standard and Pro version.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Phase 2:
I received a message in the old version saying I needed to upgrade, and I'm missing the old wake up music. It was so much more pleasant on the ears. Is there any chance it could be added? Or indeed could you pass me the .wav, if not?

I used the old one every day, and hope the new version doesn't lose what I considered to be a big selling point. So pleasant waking up to the old default.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ezzie:
Can't wait. I hope to be one of the first to purchase!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kr00t0n:
This times 100!!

I've been using the old one since Feb, and it just recently expired.

I loved the gentle alarm and how it started off soft. The new alarms are horrid and very jarring, not how I want to wake up.

Could you please let us now where the music was from, or offer the wav file?

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Wolde:
Hi!

Have been trying your app for a "while" now and this is my feedback.

As past users said, the alarm sound is horrible, i thought this app would help me wake up in a smoother and better way. Now that sounded abit harsh but a rather easy thing to change. :)

Is it possible to make the alarm sound as soon as uve sleept for more then 8 hours and ur back in rem sleep? Thats a thing i thought the app would do too. Not just be another alarm app that just analysed my sleeping habbits.

I do know this is only a beta, and im very positivly suprised by how it is so far and the potential this app has.

Now to the problems ive runned in to, first of all i think the latest sleeping sessions should be saved. I accidently shutdown the app this morning when i just had awaken and it erased the graph b4 i could see it.

And my second problem is the license, have used this beta version for 3-4 days now and it already says that its "10 days of activation" has expired.

Ive read abit of the forum though and seen that this app should popup in the marketplace but i cant find any?

Yet again, thx for this wonderfull app and I'll be sure to follow ur development!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] takertx:
10 Day Expiration Period?

Hi there people,

I have been using the version 1.0 Beta for about a week or so and I have to admit that the application was making wonders in my case, I happen to have serious sleep depravations and issues ever since I remember.

Now as I was getting hooked on the application, this morning and right after it woke me up in its mild manner I received this prompt that:

Application Sleep Sense expired after 10 days of use!

Version 1.0-Free (Build 3856)

Please visit the website for the latest version without this restriction

And so here I am visiting but to see that the same version I downloaded is still up there.

Any help is appreciated, I thought that like all other nice little apps, mods and.... in this site this very interesting piece is also free, but by all means correct me if I am wrong and have to visit some place to pay up or whatever as I need this application to function, period!!

Thanks a whole bunch
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gizmol:
Hello

I have been using previous version (if i'm right something around 0.6) on my Touch Pro and I had a lot of problems to start it. Application was shouting down from nothing etc. Anyway after day of using 0.6 it expired, so I waited for fix, now I gave a chance to v. 1.0. It started better, becouse app was working at all (sometimes problems starting, so rebot of phone was needed) but after 2 days I'm getting info that it expired, becouse of 10 day limitation. After reboot and reinstaling it's still saying the same.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] p3ak.ch:
dude.. loved the old sleepsense.

i cant even start the "new" v1.0:

Application Sleep Sense expired after 10 days of use!

Version 1.0-Free (Build 3856)

Please visit the website for the latest version without this restriction

i just downloaded it... that was 10 seconds, not days!

and btw: im thankfull for this app but this restriction is big time bull****.

U can do such restrictions when theres a NON-Beta out, but there isnt. I tried to update but this night i cant sleep at all because of this ****!

Even the one app wich should be in the marketplace is beta, so i would have to update it every 10 days... that just suck.

if u want money for this, charge and in advance: kill this bull**** restriction!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajhvdb:
Hi,

The old alarms were copyright protected but you can buy them at www.calmalarms.com and copy the new files to ..\SleepSense\Sounds\WakeUp or ..\SleepSense\Sounds\Alarm

The compile date + 10 days is the end date of the beta version. This way i know for sure everyone is using the

latest

version.

SleepSense should already be available in the US-MarketPlace (the free but limited one is) but it takes a long time to release it and I have to pay everytime I release a new version.

The latest Beta 1.20 will be available in a few hours and will time out on the 13th

Note:

Please mind your language in this topic. No need for swearing.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
My trust in this app is decreasing. Already expired without an announcement before - WTF?!

Does anybody know a program similar to Sleepsense?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Zakraket:
But now there is no working version for the coming week? I was using this beta for a few days and discouvered it stopped working this morning...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Merlin260880:
Hi ajhvdb,

I have some new Questions for you:

Device: HD2

ROM: last original O2 Germany

Radio-ROM: Since 15.07.2010 -> 2.12.50.02_2

SleepSense: 100723EB-SleepSense-V1.0-Beta.CAB

<Q1>

I had 2 Timers (first 10h and second 8h) saved. When I make a new quick timer with ->start SleepSense, press "Start", use time e.g. 19h

! The first timer change from 10h to 19h. Is this o.k.?

<Q2>

the window "add to existing chart" is not saved against missunderstanding.

'cos you make it into a new chart for the day. So if somebody has sleeped twice a day, he will have 2 charts from day not both sleeping cycle in one chart.

Would be better to change text.

<Q3> = same like <B6> from Old 24th July 2010, 10:22 AM

Log: 2010-07-31 ~9-30-10h

had been one time wu (wake up), and face down=no.

WORKS >hear sound, turn around device 180° -> Snooze 10.min

PROB >hear sound again, turn around device 180° -> sound continues

>turn around device 180° ->sound continues and display shows part of main menu->only the first and the half second entry is showed

WORKS>turn around device 360° -> snooze

WORKS>turn around device 360° -> snooze

So there might be a problem, that you have to turn your device with 360° not with 180°.

Send you log files via Mail.

Cheers Merlin
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Wolde:
So u even quote a post u dont seem to read?

"The latest Beta 1.20 will be available in a few hoursand will time out on the 13th"
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Zakraket:
Yes, I'm sorry. I realized it when it was too late.. :o
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] noonereallycares:
As a non-US user of the program, I am unable to access US marketplace. It is a bit annoying that I need to switch alarm programs every time the beta expires and there is no update for it.

If new versions are not as regular as every 10 days, them you should consider making the time limit 15 or 20 days? If the purpose of allowing people to use the beta is to build up a base of users who may purchase it in the future, you can't ignore the risk of driving them away by being locked out of the program before an update is available.

I will be switching back to G-Alarm. As useful as the SleepSense program has been, it isn't worth the hassle.

I wish you the best of luck. But with no sign of the program exiting the BETA stage, I have better ways of spending my time.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] p3ak.ch:
THAT is excactly what i was talking about.

Thanks mate.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ezzie:
Then don't use it. This site is for developers to work on their programs. They depend on USEFUL feedback. I have been following this project since before ajhvdb took over. He has done wonders and has been working hard on getting this to release status. I am glad that his hard work is about to pay off for him. Maybe before you try something once and complain you should actually read all of the information about it and understand the stage that the project is in. A developer has every right to put a timebomb or expiry in a program.

There is no other program like sleepsense for winmo. If you don't want to wait patiently or give helpful feedback, then keep your comments to yourself.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] flr:
I was just wondering:

Turned out my 10-day trial expired after 2 days. :confused:

I really would like to test it somewhat longer.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] RAZOR1985:
EN:

The trial is actually 10 days from the release date, not from your first launch.

NL:

De demo begint te lopen wanneer de nieuwe versie gereleased wordt. Niet wanneer jij het de eerste keer gestart hebt.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] flr:
Oops, didn't know that. :D

Thanks for answering.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] p3ak.ch:
A few hours have passed, still nothing new. No betas working now.. no sleepsense 4 me.

Gonna switch to G-Alarm.

cya
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] noonereallycares:
If you have misinterpreted my comments as being overly negative, then I can only apologise and hopefully clarify my position. At no point did I intend to offend the developer, or others who may consider themselves in the same position.

Timebombing is a perfectly acceptable practise. However, the purpose of the timebomb has to be considered. If it is to force people to be using the latest version, then there should be a new version released before the timebomb 'explodes'. If the purpose is to encourage people to purchase the official release, then such version should be available for purchase.

I gave feedback based on my experiences with the program. If you do not consider it helpful, then I ask that you ignore my post and continue on with the rest of your day.

If the opinions end users are not helpful, then I would strongly recommend a closed beta program. This will allow the developer to hand-pick the end users. This may help limit the number of "unhelpful" comments posted by non-developers.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] GMEKS:
@noonereallycares

As a developer i dont find your comments either rude or useless ( Not a developer of this program, but others).

My feedback to this program is this:

I never got the "wake me up more alert" part to work, but i realy liked the ability to use is as a regular wakeup program.

The short snoze time was great, and shacking my phone worked great ( Other touch based systems are prone to errors).

The time bombing was also annoying, when i wanted to sleep my SleepSense no longer worked, and i would have to update it when i wanted to sleep. If you absolutly have to timebomb like this, i would have a proper autoupdate.

Other then that i personaly hate programs that list themself as freeware but realy is shareware,demo. And will stop using it for this reason.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] denazi:
already hard reset my topaz and reinstall sleepsense. but it still said already expired. why?