yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] guiri_too:
I DID, it's called ASKING the friggin' store manager and if that's wrong, then you tell me WHO the hell does more research than that thinking, now, you know she's gotta be stupid and I'm obviously smarter than her and there's GOT to be a better way...

Funny, when I try THAT approach I have some other a$$hole bustin' my nuts for thinking I KNOW it all...

Let's see, $hit or get off the pot.....hmmm

As for the research, isn't it THEIR job to have already done that in order to be able to relay that to their customers? Wait, no, that's my fault too for just trying to take the easy way out....
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] twiztid907:
This guy is crazy

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[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Szadzik:
Seriously crazy
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mattevandavis:
and you are tired of VZW? No doubt they are not perfect, but if some one sent me home with the wrong phone Id have their head. Of course you taled to them about GSM but didnt look at the phone. sounds odd...:rolleyes:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mattevandavis:
Ok here you want to buy your own phone so there is no contract, and you want it unlocked. But you beef with your old wireless carrier is support? They cant support you if you bring your old phone. That is why they lock them. If you cant do something you shouldnt they can probably fix it.

In the future you will see more phone portability across the board. It will start to be like POTS (Plain old telephone systems) where it will be bring your own device, and dont expect any support for it.

The drawback here is that it will be up to u to contact the MFG to get help. Then the MFG will blame the carrier, and so on.

As for the Pre. THE BIGGEST POS EVER MADE. SPRINT, VZW, ATT, Etc. cant make that one work. You should be mad at the rep that sold it to you. That person was a JA.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mattevandavis:
man you are convoluted. Its not their job to spoon feed you on how to work the system. it is their job to make sure you get the info you were intended to get.

And to say you are smarter than someone... based on what? :confused: that you think you understand something that they dont? I think you have a very basic knowledge about what you are talking about here and it seems to be that most of the people here know more. That doesnt make you stupid. Stupid is thinking you know it all.

If you want to know search. Not post a thread asking some one else to do it for you. then you wont get lit up like a christmas tree. You might learn a lot in you journey to find the answer.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mattevandavis:
Now for my answer to the original question.

There are a lot of ways to look at the good and bad, but look at if from the perspective of someone never having one of these devices, and not experienced users.

Android Pros for a newbie

1. repetitively simple to use.

2. tons of free apps

3. speed

4. scalability (as you learn more you find it does more)

5. choice (lot of devices out there vs windows; atleast main stream)

6 growth (getting bigger every day. more apps, more tech, more etc)

7 it works (when it hits the fan you an kill one app not the whole phone

8. cost (better hw for less money)

9. it can manage its own memory

Android cons

1. Must self learn

2. support is low

3. email function/setup can be a pain (for newbie)

Windows Pros

1. looks familiar

2. support from company it (if in a business environment)

3. tools built in to windows to sync and use

4. stock apps (office, notepads, etc)

5. can install apps to removable mem

Windows cons

1. Memory management

2. less apps

3. less growth

4. less likely to be able to ask friend for help

5. pay for most features

6. complex

7. reliability (no kernel means CRASH)

8. cost

9. investment (more than likely will not be a very common os (now or in the future) why bother taking the time to learn it.

10. .....Ok I just dont like it.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] kenkiller:
in short, winmo is more customizable than Android.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bipolarmadman:
There's a saying when it comes to technology that I think seems relavant. I'm probably going to quote it incorrectly, but the idea is the same...as anyone who has based their career on working with any tech can easily attest to-

There are those that understand the tech they work with but dont manage it, and then there are those that manage the tech they work with but do not understand it.

Gernerally speaking - A manager organizes. If you asked her when her next shipment was, or who was scheduled to work 3 Tuesdays from today, I'd be willing to bet she'd have known. A tech is who you should have asked. A tech supervisor could be considered as a manager, when compared to a tech, but they'd be better qualifed to answer your question than their manager would. A sales person should never be confused with either of these three positions, and should be at the bottom of this list of who to ask any tech related question to. Keep in mind there are some that fill the positions of supervisor and manager who started their climb as a tech, and sales people who are techs that couldn't get a tech position, and techs that are new to the game. This proves there are exceptions to this "rule", but from my experience their numbers are few, relatively speaking.

tl;dr -

Managers should be asked business orginization questions, nothing more. If you decide to ask someone that doesn't need to understand the tech behind your question in order to keep their job...they probably don't understand your question well enough to give you an answer you can bank on.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] guiri_too:
Well, I have to say that I'm probably in the managing but not understanding it but hell, I could be wrong.

Regardless, I don't expect them to know all the much but dammit, you should at least know if your network is GSM or not even if you can't tell the customer what exactly GSM means. Hell, I don't even remember it and I used to know. Global Satellite something...?

Should they know everything about all phones? I don't that's possible if they want to get ANYTHING done during the day. Too many new models coming out almost daily.

Should they know more than they do? Absolutely.

I got a call back from t mobile about rating them and I rated them very high on everything including courtesy, my experience and only rated them low (out of 15-20 questions) on the actually knowledge which was only 2 questions. Another thing I find inadequate. Almost all questions about did I get treated right and all that and yes, that's important and nice but dammit, I prefer knowledge and better training.

George
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] guiri_too:
Well, that's the worst part, I DID look at the phone, VERY briefly and didn't even think of the fact that there is an Internet Explorer present...yeah, my bad and I'm a dumbass but hey, I admit to it and I think I even posted that she MAY have told me it was a windows phone at some point, NOT sure.

I DID say I preferred an Android so again, I'm not sure here so I'll have to plead total ignorance or stupidity (everyone's choice) but the thread is more about which is better AND about the fact that (regardless of whether I'm crazy, a moron, stupid or whatever) considering the amount of features, programs, gimmicks and more or less useful things, you still do NOT have the option of making the stinkin' text bigger.

I was with a friend of mine in my truck today and had to make a call and of course, when it dialed the number and showed me who it was calling, it struck me and I showed it to him and said...can you see who it's calling and he couldn't, DESPITE having his glasses on. Yeah, another ol' fart like me.

I then asked, you would think that with all that SPACE, they could make the numbers bigger and he was also very surprised at that. HIS phone is a much simpler phone with much bigger screen so relative to HIS screen, the number fills up the screen much better.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] guiri_too:
Nope, you misunderstood. I do NOT expect them to support something I bought somewhere else.

Let me see if I can explain.

1. If the HD2 had worked out for me I could have kept it, BUT, I can't seem to find a program to make fonts bigger (in time although I have searched and found nothing but I have to return it soon or keep it).

2. I think the droid is the better platform and after I got this windows phone, I am EVEN more convinced.

3. IF it were a droid phone I would need it unlocked to be able to get that font enlargement program on it

4. Since they don't sell them unlocked so I can get the font proggy, I'll have to get it unlocked and will go to them for a monthly based contract.

5. No, I don't expect them to support or warrant it.

By the way, there seems to be a program that zooms in just about everywhere on the screen (for windows) but I haven't found it yet. I asked the person that posted about it but no reply yet and again, I'm running out of the 14 day trial time here and at around 500 bucks, I'm not keeping a phone I can't get to work for me...font size, bla, bla...

As for the manufacturer blaming the carrier and the other way around, that is pretty much what happens today when I call support so this won't be any different. I had my ISP/phone company once blame my network for the internet problems and had me disconnect my home network that I paid someone to set up, ONLY to discover that the installer had NOT put a cheapo filter on the phone jack. Of course, once that filter was installed (plug it into the jack which took the best of ten seconds), I could NOT get them to pay for me to have my network set up again and NO, I don't know how to do it.

This is NOT unusual and I've had it happen many times (the blame game I mean).
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] guiri_too:
First, let me reply on the PRE comments. I think you're right and I have had to return two phones in two weeks because of something with the screen.

I liked the PALM software options part of it but that was it. The battery life was appaling and the much bigger HD2 has better battery life (I guess the battery might be bigger but I have no idea).

Back to the other stuff...

Hmm, I do NOT think I know it all and if I gave that impression, it wasn't meant that way. Smarter than others, yeah, in several respects I am and in many, I'm not.

Many people here know much more than I do which is another reason I come for help.

Searching? I have and I have been posting about this HERE, on cellphonescoop I think, the androlib forum, other forums including DPReview since there is a huge amount of people there from all over the world, and other forums and NO, never did find the answer to what I'm still looking for and I think I may have mentioned that I tipped someone off about that font proggy which apparently worked great for his wife but I never could get him to post a picture or two of the screen with the font size.

I signed up here a few years ago and I've been in several forums for quite some time (asking about phones) but never really got any answers that would help me. In some cases yes but not all the questions.

Searching...again...I spend a huge amount of time searching for stuff and my history file is so big, it literally takes 15-20 seconds for my computer to find a keyword...and no, it's not indexed through google desktop or windows which would speed things up.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] guiri_too:
Oh, and finally. I just ordered the Nexus One with Froyo from Negri and it should be here on monday since I asked them to put that screen shield thing on so we'll see.

So far the t mobile coverage has been good. The download speed has been so, so but then, I haven't tried it many times and what I will use it for is not heavy on info so I should be ok (mostly looking up info or maybe maps).

I have no idea how their service is but I guess I'll have to find out and I'll be going with the montly contract now that I will have my own phone.

If anyone wants to know something specific about Froyo and you can keep the questions to a fairly simple level, I'd be happy to try to find out when I get the phone.

Again, reading comprehension for me is bad so if you explain, make it simple.

The reason for the froyo was the abilty to work as hot spot/wifi router.

George
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] :
And any other WM qsd82X0 based device has the same performance.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] guiri_too:
Thanks, my phone is coming tomorrow so we'll see :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] orb3000:
Redundant thread

Already a thread with same topic here :eek:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] guiri_too:
HEy, can someone tell me what I need to do be able to get the RING tones from the HD2 to my computer?

THanks
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] teamsilence:
I have a friend who has a iPhone and he was explaining to me how he wants to switch to android but the only reason he wont is because lack of music recording ability on android. He says he can justhook his guitar up to iPhone and record he says there are apps like amplitude and others that can make iPhone like a 12 track mixer. can a phone like n 1 evo etc.. handle this.? Is it only a matter oflack of app development? Or hardware issue.? http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=3434
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ztm.000:
Shouldn't be hardware by any means... but I do too wish I could have this ability. I would say its lack of development. that's one of the big things I moss ability iPhone was a little app called "fourtrack", you could record anything you wanted, bounce it, and the sound quality was amazing. /:
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ztm.000:
anybody know of a solution?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] teamsilence:
?

I think /hope we could just port apps or mybe the increase in popularity of android we will see development like this.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bryce2010:
Just about the only thing I miss from my iPhone is a simple streaming internet radio app called Fstream. It could stream any internet radio station and could also RECORD any station.

I found Cherry Rplayer which is great but it doesn't record. I found Radio RIP, but it's complicated & not very user friendly - and most stations I've tried to add are not supported. :-(
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ztm.000:
So who should we talk to about getting some nice music apps? Sonoma Wireworks makes fourtrack for iPhone. I'm gonna email them.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RashaMatt:
There's no line-in jack on N1 - just a crappy mic.

Thus no music recording/tracking apps!

We'll have to wait for devices with a line-in jack before we'll see this.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bajansurfer:
Of course the n1 has a line in. that's how the headset that came with it works
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] time_shock:
point! :):)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RashaMatt:
If you can plug a stereo LINE LEVEL signal into it and get reasonable fidelity, fine. But if it will only accept a mono mic, then I wouldn't call it a "line in".

It's either a mono mic jack or a stereo line-in. My money's on the mono mic jack.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bajansurfer:
whether it be mono or stereo it is still a line-in. most (if not all) guitars output a mono signal anyway, which is what the OP was asking about.
[XPERIA X10 General] czw2002cn:
It's been a little while since rumors on an upcoming T-Mobile USA branded Samsung Galaxy S started circulating and now it turned out that AT&T will be the first US carrier to get its own Galaxy S, the Captivate, which has just been officially unveiled

Source:gsmarena.com.
[XPERIA X10 General] gr3yh0und:
+1 Same sentiment. LOL.
[XPERIA X10 General] gaolinde:
similar curve with overall ugly looking lol:p

i still think x10 is the best looking smart phone nowday maybe ever

shame for SE make this good thing become ****:(
[XPERIA X10 General] Bikram:
You guys do realize that this phone has MULTI TOUCH, SUPER AMOLED, 16GB ROM, 512MB RAM and OH YEAH DIVX PLAYER.

I dont see how this is copy of x10?? I mean if having big screen only makes all smart phones copy of iphone, then yeah it is a copy. But you know what I would trade this for my x10. I would even add $200 extra if needed lol

Guys this is a better phone don't be a jelaous baby, be COOL :p
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that phone at all.

Looks pretty sweet, and I'm sure it's users are happy with it. No need to get jealous/hate on something someone else likes.
[XPERIA X10 General] gr3yh0und:
we are not jealous just compared the looks of it side by side and you'll see. are you blind or something?

They better make their "OWN" design on phone.
[XPERIA X10 General] junexyz:
were not jealous!!!!

were just looking the hard case to compare the x10 looks the same on front still x10 has the best looks of all android phones not to mention the timescape and mediascape.....application.. soon to be running 2.1 in a few months!!!! ;)

peace!!! \m/
[XPERIA X10 General] Bikram:
Ok I get it now. Here are other look alikes;
[XPERIA X10 General] czw2002cn:
Bikram,i cant see any similarity between the pictures u posted and x10.
[XPERIA X10 General] feis:
He's just blind :)

The design is really very similar to x10 :)
[XPERIA X10 General] wrongfeifong:
i am more interest on Sony's next phone since it will be "pressure sensitive."

I can't wait to use it for on the go drawing.
[XPERIA X10 General] mtechfan:
You think thats a bad copy?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=687834&highlight=x10+clone :p
[XPERIA X10 General] Talonnb:
Bikram said: "You guys do realize that this phone has MULTI TOUCH, SUPER AMOLED, 16GB ROM, 512MB RAM and OH YEAH DIVX PLAYER."

Oh, by the way. Sony is coming out with a single touch zoom that will beat multitouch and the X10 now has a Divx player, although it's not released yet. I'm playing high quality AVI's on my X10 at 24 fps, so nyah :P
[XPERIA X10 General] Bikram:
Yeah you guys are totally right. X10 is an awesome phone, and none of you will ever trade it for Galaxy S, even if they offer $1000.00 with it.

Anyone else wants to quote me an explain why x10 is so awesome??
[XPERIA X10 General] feis:
You are talking rubbish, FIRST OF ALL, we didnt said galaxy is some kind of cheap worse copy of x10, what we are saying, is that DESIGN is copied, not the specs, not something else, DESIGN. Do you understand now ?
[XPERIA X10 General] Bikram:
DESIGN OK

From the above picture we can see the main differences between x10 and Samsung i897 Captivate;

1) Captivate has straight body whereas x10 has curved body.

2) x10 has a curved metallic feature, captivate has none.

3) x10 has 3 physical button on the buttom, whereas captivate has touch sensetive button. And Captivate has 4 buttons.

4) The top part of x10 has semicircle whereas in captivate its like a slot.

5) The body of captivate has fillet (curved edges), x10 has edged faces (except for the top).

6) The top of cativate is circular but its flat for x10.

7) In x10 there is the volume buttons and the camera button on the side. In captivate, its only the volume button.

From the above picture we can see the main differences between x10 and Samsung i897 Captivate;

1) The back is made of one piece for x10, Captivate has a battery cover of different color (and probably material).

2) The camera is situated along the center line of x10. The camera of Captivate is in the top left corner.

3) The speaker output is at the back for captivate whereas for x10 it is on the side.

JUST BECAUSE the phone has no dpad or trackball, and has 4'' screen, does not make it a copy. Yes x10 has better looks, I know that and that is why I bought it over n1. But that has nothing to do with Captivate being a copy of x10.

Now after all this explanation if you still see them having same DESIGN, then I have to say that you need either a eye test or brain test. Its never too late you know :p
[XPERIA X10 General] gr3yh0und:
The guy above me does not understand what we meant.

ITS NOT LIKE SAMSUNG MAKE A CLONE OF X10.

Would you differentiate all their old models at that captivate

As you can see. the base part of capitivate is the same as X10. The format of Captivate looks like X10. Of course they will not do the same thing as X10 as they will get issues and will call it a china phone.

Look at Galaxy S the BASE PART OF that phones comes from Iphone.

Now compare their old phones like Omnia 2. The phone used to be rounded edge

Compared them and Check the difference between the phone they copy and the SAMSUNG PHONE DESIGN THAT IS USED TO BE
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
I'm going to go out on a HUGE limb here and say that it's probably a little difficult to really make a touchscreen phone look significantly different from the competition.

There's only so many ways you can configure a 4 inch screen with some buttons.
[XPERIA X10 General] Bikram:
Thank you :)

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[XPERIA X10 General] iridaki:
EXACTLY! Couldn\t have said it better myself! ;)

Also, normal people tend to like their newly-acquired phones a lot, so they will defend them. And that applies to SE owners, Samsung owners, Nokia, HTC, Apple, etc.

So, comparison threads can end up full of aggression and not so useful posts. :)
[XPERIA X10 General] gr3yh0und:
There is HTC Nokia LG Motorola have different design on their touchscreen. When you look at it at the first place, you can't think of a familiar looking phone.

If I saw the Galaxy S I think of two things Iphone and the Galaxy S itself. where if you saw N8 or Droid phone you only think 1 phone.
[XPERIA X10 General] bimmerboii:
guys.. most touch-screen phones have similar form and design. 1 phone cant be a copy of another unless its a damn clone.

sigh..
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GHOST99K:
after rooting with unrevoked my SD card is kinda playing games with me.sometimes its empty and sometimes it reads.any help?:mad:
[HD2 General] felix88d:
SOMEONE PLEASE HELP.. i need to reset my incoming and outgoing usage for my HD2!! i dont know if this is the right forum to ask this question but please help ME!!!
[HD2 General] clauswl:
As far as I know it can not bedone. It is an internal minute counter.
[HD2 General] zelendel:
Your right there is not a way to reset that timer. (JTAG may be the only hope but not sure)
[HD2 General] pixine786:
Can't be done. I was also looking for this sometime back when I had a Xperia... :P
[HD2 General] rlee008:
why would u "need" to do that? you want to sell it as a new phone?
[HD2 General] clauswl:
I am sure that might be the case.....:eek:

Well, u never know, maybe he used it for a little bit to test it out.;)
[HD2 General] rlee008:
yup, dont they all. i love it when you search for something on ebay and the seller states, "its brand new in the box, i just took it out for testing to make sure it works propperly" ha! what a line...

i have a feeling there's going to be a semi-used HD2 with 0 hours for sale soon ... lol
[HD2 General] zelendel:
Question answered thread closed
[EVO 4G General] dannytech_lt:
quick and simple question.

ive heard 4G is coming to NYC late july.. will 4g from Ny work in NJ?
[EVO 4G General] DroidDhakan:
Real simple answer. Unfortunately no.