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[XPERIA X10 Android Development] FRiKiNFRoG:
I'm not pointing at anyone in particular as I only read threads and rarely look at who posted. My point wasn't to accuse anyone. But warning to off topics and complainers should be sent, failing to change their behavior should lead to more action.

Yes these are more suggestions than issues we have, but I think most of the people know what are the issues. The main one being 'talking in a thread about anything'. Most of the useful threads have a self-explanatory title, reading the original post usually tells a user where he wants to go with the thread he created.

I know some might 'sound' harsh or rude but personally I don't really mind that as long as it does not become a flaming war/troll feeding discussion. But keeping a discussion on the right direction is probably the most important thing in such a huge forum. Then the search tool comes handy when the discussion is going one way. :)

Warning/temp/perm banning. Sending public message to people saying 'please stop' is not going to work. A temp ban with a nice message included stating what he did wrong should be effective in most cases. Failing to comply after 'x' warnings/temp ban, bye bye we do not need you (They can still read threads, they'll just stop posting what devs don't need).

I'm not pissed or angry at anyone, I'm just one of those people who thinks that moderation is important. The easier/cleaner it is for everyone, the faster we'll get the good news/progress. This site is one big community, let's make it look good/the best there is.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] cvchetan:
well.. right now m cleaning up threads and rest assured that all off topic posts, flames wars will be stopped from now on..

lets get ourselves together and make this forum productive..

cheers
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Cnrl:
Maybe issue warning on some fanatic on this forum, some people are extremely rude for no reason, acting like their keyboard and mouse give them God like power.

Realize lots of people have limited knowledge and are trying to get some information. When you see the reaction of some user…bashing on them saying search first idiot there a post about it .Maybe you should realize some of them just don’t know what they have to search. Why not just point them in the proper direction and help them , it would make this forum way more attractive.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] hoss_n2:
you are right i see this usless replies not only here but on all forums ,why don't he just tell the answer ,new members don't think about search they are still new :( when i was juinor member i faced allot of these replies . if any body don't want to help just don't reply :mad:
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] FRiKiNFRoG:
Pointing the right direction if you can yes, not answering like an a**hole to a newcomer yes. But there is nothing wrong about telling them politely to search, we might know there is a thread on a subject, but pointing them to the right direction is also searching for them in some/most cases. All forums work pretty much the same, joining one means learning how to use it/navigate it.

Search is the biggest tool there is on the internet. This is how you find what you want, this is how you find answers. Internet is full of it. The faster you start, the more stuff you'll get out of it.

BTW: Answering like a a**hole to a newcomer is also worthy of warnings and ban. It's part of the issue too.

I'm all about common sense. :)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Myliu4:
You can generally class users in 3 categories. The devs, the supporters, and the noobs. The devs are resourceful enough to not care, because they'll always find a way to get things done. The supporters have kinda a clue about what's going on, and are always trying to enforce rules to keep the noobs in order. The noobs almost always assume a hierarchy of power, try to suck up, seek attention, and post ridiculous amounts of crap to get out of trouble/sound smart/kiss ass.

So understanding this dynamics, devs really don't care about flaming and junk, they just want to get product out. Supporters need to learn to refrain, not feed the troll and stop thinking they are better than noobs. Noobs usually just chat amongst themselves if left alone, and are mostly harmless.

The only thing that need to happen here is a set of clear guidelines for noobs to read about when to post, where to post, and when not to post. Also, clean up the place from its state now so people don't get the idea that it's okay to post crap. Maybe a reminder (after submission of a post) for users with low post count to remind them useless junk are indeed useless and bin-worthy.
[Android Software Development] feisu:
what is the problem? anyone got a idea how to fix it about this?

with offical sdk rom I can have a 3g icon over the top and service

ps:with custom rom seems adb no working too

adb shell

error: device not found
[Android Software Development] jjcang:
me too got this problem , with customized built image,
[EVO 4G General] cpnichols:
So I noticed a huge drop in speed (as have most of you) with my general 3G network. I am in LA, so my 4G is lucky if you find it.

On my old TP before the Evo came on, I got 700Kb on a bad day, 1200 on a good day... so very usable.

I was getting similar speeds on My Evo for the first week. Now I am getting horrible speeds with 300Kb, and when things are slow (and they are often slow) I get 74Kb. What is really bad.

I didn't know if it was the Evo, the battery "tricks" I applied such as turning off "enabled always-on mobile data" so I turned it back on.

I am still getting bad results and about to call sprint.... when I decided to test my wife's Palm Pre... She is also getting poor speeds (300Kb when I checked), and told me she noticed a difference in the last few weeks.

Is the Evo too successful for Sprint? Did it actually effect the network? Or is this a glitch at Sprint that will soon be changed.

More importantly... What can we do?
[EVO 4G General] xadonxander:
my speeds are lower

Before I got me evo I had a mogul. My speeds were great at 1100kbs down and 600kbs up. Now after my upgrade my evo will only get 100 down and 60 up. I can't believe they can charge $10 extra since I can't even watch YouTube on the lowest video quality without being on wifi. I could do more on the internet with my mogul than the evo. I know the evo is not the cause its sprints network. Also apparently sprint has no plans as of yet to put 4g here in Colorado springs. I am point to return my evo if nothing changes before my 30 days are up.
[EVO 4G General] apollooff320:
my speeds were 1.82Mbps and went down to .63-.92 most of the day today. I just checked after reading your thread and my speeds are back to normal. You just have to wait it out. It wasn't just the EVO either it was my Hero also that got crappy speeds.
[EVO 4G General] akrod2as:
What he meant was that the evo being launched and so many getting it caused the slow down on sprint's network. This was similar to when the iphone 3g and 3gs came out, att's network slowed down quite a bit. I noticed it right away when I was on att.
[EVO 4G General] mrono:
I actually get better speeds than my previous phone, hell I consistently get better coverage and speed then my friends g1 on tmo and my sisters verizon moto droid

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[EVO 4G General] diomark:
In SF, I'm getting around ~400-450 down, ~500 up..

(For comparison, the verizon incredible that I was testing last month was getting ~1100 down / 700 up)

:(

-mark
[EVO 4G General] gefahr:
in socal.. 500 down, 500 up.

using a hero
[EVO 4G General] theoner1:
Visiting my mom at the hospital in Oakland, CA on 3G I'm getting 2.2 Mbps down, 0.8 Mbps up.

@ Work Martinez, CA - 1.8 Mbps down, 0.6 up.

@ Home Vallejo, CA - 0.7 Mbps down, 0.5 up.

Been pretty consistant since the day I got the Evo.
[EVO 4G General] SPL15:
I'm in Grand Rapids, MI & I've noticed a decline in throughput as well on 3 different android phones these last two weeks.

HTC Hero - 1.2Mb/S before about 2 months ago, last time I checked last week before I smashed it, it was ~700Kb/S

Samsung Moment - ~ 800Kb/s

EVO - 500Kb/S MAX

No 4G here yet. I think Sprint throttled things back a bit to save some bandwidth/money on 3G & to make a larger aparent difference between 3G & 4G. Also could be tied to a future plan of tiered service rates. The common consumer has no clue what kind of throughput they get, they just notice aparent speed & want more. Throttling back service before a tiered service rate initiative is a good way to entice mo monies from common folks wanting faster phone porn & unstuttering LOST reruns.
[EVO 4G General] imtjnotu:
Update your prl.....in san Diego and I get 1.8 mbps down and 700kbps up

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[EVO 4G General] cpnichols:
Update PRL from the phone PRL update? Or are you talking about using the VRZ PRL? I don't want to to the vrz hack because of the risk of roaming.
[EVO 4G General] asrebel:
It seems like this issue always come out for big releases, and I'm usually...skeptical. However I'm seeing some differences lately....I compared my results to the Hero. Same location. Same number of bars. Ran the test throughout the day.

New 3g results on EVO

.43 Mbps/.30Mbps up. (only differs by about .2Mbps/.1Mbps throughout the day)

I was consistently getting close to 1Mbps down and close to .5Mbps up on my Hero.

My radio and PRL are updated.

There might be something to this at least in some locations.
[EVO 4G General] EtherealRemnant:
EVO - 780 down, 320 up.

Touch Pro 2 - 2.1Mbps down, 268 up.

HUGE difference... and they're both using the same home agent. I think the radio hardware in the EVO is inferior as I've NEVER seen it get above 1.3Mbps, whereas by TP2 and Mogul but regularly run about 1.5 on average...

Not to mention the fact that my TP2 holds a wifi signal much better than my EVO... My EVO won't stay connected to my router if I walk outside... My TP2 holds it all the way to the mailbox (about 100 feet from the router). Though wifi speeds (I've seen 13Mbps) are much better on the EVO when you're practically sitting on the router.
[EVO 4G General] asrebel:
Ah, so you suspect a similiar radio issue as the wi-fi as opposed to a bandwidth issue...I could see that (especially in response to the battery issues).
[EVO 4G General] Aridon:
I'm not sure I would have really noticed it but I ran a few speed tests the past couple of days and they were all in the ****ter.

Getting 250-500 down and around 600 up.
[EVO 4G General] EtherealRemnant:
I have never seen such terrible speeds on a Rev A device... My area is blanketed in Rev A and my data card pulls 2.6/400 consistently so I know it has nothing to do with the network.

Between the 3G speeds (or lack thereof), the wifi issues, the 30FPS cap, and the battery life, that Samsung Galaxy S Pro is looking mighty nice...
[EVO 4G General] cpnichols:
Well I have been running tests all day as I prep to call Sprint. The variation is HUGE.

Mostly I am getting 200 to 500 down and 200 to 400 up with pings in the high 200

Then suddenly I got a pocket of time I got 1500 to 1200 down and 500 up with pings around 140

Then dropped again to 40 down and 100 up with pings near 600

I noticed on the tests that I did that are bad the needle on the speed test would hand and jump... it is almost like I was getting a bad signal that would be breaking up.

Basically this is really bad. I used to steam audio all the time on my old TP and now I can't because it has basically become impossible to listen to anything due to the poor bandwidth. I am paying $10 for premium service and it got worse... I am going to demand they refund me the $10 until they fix the bandwidth issue (we will see how THAT goes....)
[EVO 4G General] EtherealRemnant:
Where are you guys conducting these tests? Don't use the speedtest app - its broken (it shows an 800 upload which is impossible - at least in my area). Speedtest.net from the phone will not give you proper latency and may or may not reflect the true speed.

testmy.net 25MB download and testmy.net 3MB upload are the tests I've been using.
[EVO 4G General] asrebel:
In boise, id on the 3g network not 4g. I was using speedtest and the results have been pretty consistent for me when I get the same server but I'm not against using a different bandwidth test...

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[EVO 4G General] EtherealRemnant:
Its just best for everyone to be using the same server to test on. Testmy.net has no problem handling my 50meg connection at home (tests at 62/19) whereas I have a hard time finding a speedtest.net server that works. I can tell you though, if you go to speedtest.net and run a speed test on the same server you were using in the app, your latency will be lower but your speed will be faster... That tells me the app is not reporting properly.

Also, speeds tend to peak and normalize after about 10MB... so the speedtest.net tests aren't as accurate as testmy.net would be.
[EVO 4G General] acrh2:
Personal report (3G only).

I haven't done a lot of testing, so no comprehensive tests independent of time of the day, but the down speed seems to have gone up from 1.8 to 2.3 Mbps, while the up speed seems to have gone down from 500 to 250 Mbps.

This is at the peak hours (4-6 pm cst). I'll do some more testing later in the day.
[EVO 4G General] Zabalba:
I rooted my evo today and the tutorial suggested to update the radio baseband. Afterwards I noticed a change in download speeds. Although I was using the speed test app I was consistently getting 1.3k down before radio update. Then 500-600 max afterwards. I could be imagining things and blame it up to bad timing. :confused:
[EVO 4G General] coolguy949:
Same here. Similar results as OP. Came from a TP as well. I was hoping to get even better 3G speeds with the Evo. I was wrong.
[EVO 4G General] B3RL1N:
Inside my room 3G in Kb/s:

496 Down | 687 Up

374 Down | 706 Up

422 Down | 705 Up

Outside 3G in Kb/s:

817 Down | 354 Up

310 Down | 53 Up

554 Down | 168 Up

My Touch Pro 2 had 2Mb/s plus.

BUTTTT!!!!

I had my Touch Pro 2 for 4 days after the EVO came out as I missed the first batched while I was out of town. My speeds were horrible! Same problem.

This is all about the introduction of a bunch of new users to the market. Really sucks! I just want a new 4G tower here in Vegas because the coverage is non existant at my house. (In the middle of the effing city) This isn't just inside my house, which is because the spectrum is so weak. But my entire street is either 100 Kb/s or less. >.<

Angers me. I bought a 4G phone in a 4G city and get no 4G service. I even looked it up before hand and the map tells me "Lawl, ur house iz kewl dude. Buy u an Evo".

Love phone, hate the service.

AT&T....

Wait, did anyone else just hear an echo?
[EVO 4G General] distortedloop:
Whatever the cause, the 3G speeds are bad enough for me here in the San Fernando Valley (Los Angeles) at multiple locations that I am considering returning the EVO before my 30 days trial is over.

I managed a 08.mb/s test, once - other than that never more than 0.5mb/s on the downloads and usually more like 0.3mb/s. I used to have a Sprint datacard for my laptop (haven't had it for a year) and it always got well over 1.5mb/s as I recall. Whether it's the phone, or the crush of new customers, it sucks.

Side-by-side tests of three different devices on three different networks today:

iPhone 4 (AT&T) = 1.6mb/s

Nexus One (TMo) = 2.5mb/s (!!!!)

EVO 4G (Sprint) = 0.5mb/s

Without even a hint of 4G service in my area any time soon, and horrible 3G speeds, I don't want to gamble on "things will get better". I love the EVOs big bright screen, but not enough to put up with EDGE-like speeds.

I'll give it another 10 days, and maybe try flashing the old radio, but as someone else posted above, the Galaxy S is looking better and better. (Actually, screen and network speed-wise, the iPhone 4 isn't looking all that bad right now, either.)
[EVO 4G General] acrh2:
Iowa, stock rom (updated), stock radio.
[EVO 4G General] Beejis:
My speeds have stayed the same since I got my ego on the 5th.
[EVO 4G General] distortedloop:
I updated prl last night and managed one 1.5mb/s download test, but after that I kicked back down to 0.4mb/s or so.

This morning, I'm getting 1.1-1.5mb/s testing, which is acceptable, but nothing stellar compared to my iPhone 4 and Nexus One side-by-side results.

I'll have to test again at the office and while out & about town today, but this suggests of course that it's the network, not the phone.

Even if it's the network, not sure how that changes my opinion about returning the phone. No 4G and wildly random unaccetably low 3G speeds doesn't make me a loyal Sprint customer, no matter how cool the EVO is. I'm really disappointed here, the EVO seemed like the top phone to have the rest of this year...

Oh, btw, I am on a rooted EVO (toast's method) running the rooted "stock" ROM and the latest radio.
[EVO 4G General] distortedloop:
Does Sprint have any feedback mechanism in place, like an app, or even just a web site you can report service issues on? I'll google it, but sometimes those sites are hard to find, any tips appreciated.

P.S. - AT&T has a way to report poor service, dropped calls, slow data, etc with the iPhone - it's an app with geolocation and a list of prefill issues to quickly just mark-the-spot (the name of the app) and the data goes to AT&T. I marked a few spots like six months ago, and never heard anything about it afterwards until just the other day when I received an SMS message from AT&T telling me they were installing a new tower in the area of where I'd reported weak service. Kind of cool that they actually did something about it, even if it took six months.
[EVO 4G General] bringit167:
Here in Wichita, KS, I just tested my speed on speakeasy.net and received 2.0 Mbps down and roughly .20 Mbps up... not bad (all on 3g)
[EVO 4G General] diomark:
I was getting fairly poor speeds without the last software update.. (500 up / 500 down) - with the new radio, getting ~800 up, 800 down.. still not optimal, but good enough..

This is in San Francisco.

-mark
[EVO 4G General] bob13bob:
speedtest.net is not accurate as mentioned. you have to download big files and see how long that tkes, do some division.
[EVO 4G General] pecosROB:
Several days ago on the 21 I got 1.8 mbps in Tyler, TX on my Evo. Lately I've been getting around 500 kbps or somewhere in that range from +/- 150 kbps.

I have yet to test the 4G in Dallas.
[EVO 4G General] wsantiagow:
I am very disappointed right now with the speeds i am getting in Jacksonville Florida. I am getting anywhere from 100 kbps to 300 kbps. This is bull****. I am running the latest radio on a fully rooted (toast) Evo. What gives? I have tried 2 different speed tests (speedtest.net and Xtreme Labs) with the same results. I have till July 3rd to return phone. I love my EVO coming from ATT and an iPhone. Hate to go back, but Sprint is leaving me no choice. I heard that there is going to be an OTA on Monday with some fixes. I dont know if this is a phone issue or network. I would guess network being said on this forum that other phones on Sprint are suffering from low bandwidth.
[EVO 4G General] B3RL1N:
Any recommendations then? I saw testmy.net on page 2.

Going to try that now.

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Just got 0.4 Mb/s with a 12 MB download. :/
[EVO 4G General] EtherealRemnant:
testmy.net is the best short of downloading a file and manually calculating how long it takes... because testmy.net allows you up to a 50MB download.

My 3G speeds are better today... 1.5Mbps consistently. Even got 1Mbps at home.
[EVO 4G General] BrianDigital:
my speeds have been the same on the last three phones......maybe a tower is down in your area?
[EVO 4G General] B3RL1N:
Nope, when I went down to Sprint two weeks ago and got my Evo my rep told that there has been a serious slow down in speed. I discussed with him about what I had been experience with my TP2 and told me that the same slow down was occurring with his BlackBerry as well.

Apparently a lot of people have been complaining about their internet speed slowing down.

Me? I just use Opera Mini. Problem solved! :P

Cloud computing for the win!
[EVO 4G General] muncheroo:
ppl should start mentioning ping in their tests too.

i would give my right nut to have sub 50ms ping on a cell phone... so much more noticeable going from 200ms to 100ms ping than it is going from .5mbps to 1mbps bandwidth
[EVO 4G General] Schulz3:
Speakeasy.net/speedtest seems really accurate. Pulling down 1.1-1.2mb on my evo, my at&t phones (3 different phones) only got 700kb on a good day.
[EVO 4G General] ffolkes:
rant-on

glad to see i'm not the only one. my speeds were about 800kbs (down) on average, about 600kbps lowest with my touch pro back in late 2008, most of 2009. same with my hero/evo until about the second week of june. now both of them (meaning my hero and my evo) show 600kbs at best (during the night), and i kid you not, between 45 and 200kbs during the day, with the lowest corresponding to lunch hour. i really thought something was wrong with my evo, until i doubled checked with my hero. from like 11am to 2pm i effectively have no meaningful data access, and can only dream of 56k modem speeds. that's just sad.

...and to add insult to injury, they're charging us $10 extra for this!? i thought maybe they put some work into the network recently, and needed that $10 to help compensate for it. but apparently not.

rant-off
[EVO 4G General] EtherealRemnant:
I called Sprint's business customer service today... They are working on getting more bandwidth to the towers... Most of the areas that are affected are, ironically, areas getting 4G, so it seems that Sprint has been pulling bandwidth from the towers to get ready for 4G launches or to enhance existing 4G.

She credited me 20 dollars on my bill for the inconvenience...
[EVO 4G General] baiatul:
this is what I get in NYC at this time... Stock everything...still....
[EVO 4G General] tech7:
If u using speedtest.net app is mest up its not realy acurate
[EVO 4G General] EtherealRemnant:
Understatement of the century LOL
[EVO 4G General] cpnichols:
I was the original poster on this thread. I have been getting better speeds as of late. So Sprint must be working on their network. I have been using testmy.net now to do my tests and while before I would get 90% of my speeds south of 500 and only about 5% north of 1000, now I am getting about 50% in the 1+ Mb range. So things are getting better.

The thing that effects me the most is streaming music which I love to do while driving. Back on my wimo device I used to use Resco Radio which was better at dealing with a the more variable bandwidth as I drive. I am now using Radio Time which has a great interface, but not as good at streaming. It seems better then many others I have tested on Android. Anyone have any good recommendations for a streaming radio program while driving?
[EVO 4G General] mrono:
That's why I love sprint, they are good to their customers.
[EVO 4G General] wsantiagow:
@Etherealremnant

Makes sense, I'm in Jacksonville where there is partial 4G right now throughout the city and expected fully in August.
[EVO 4G General] benny484:
Sprint still best in 3g speed

I have Evo 4g since the day one i never had a problem with it. My 3g speeds are awesome the are listed below.
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
The thread is from june 2010 not 2011 ;)

There is a lot of other people that still have horrible speeds though.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mazari:
HI all friends...Imate.com web-site closed. Where are I can find ROM lock code?

I have not box with imei label and rom lock code.

How can update rom without this code?

or any good cooked ROM 6.1 OR 6.5 for ultimate 6150

a lot of thanks