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[Hero, G2 Touch General] nprussell:
I have personally apologised to Feeyo for hi-jacking his thread. I have no issue with him directly, I just have an issue with the way he handled the situation earlier.

It's a joke that it's even come to this stage.

Leaving over this is an absolute over-reaction. Nobody wanted that. Nobody actually wanted you to take down your ROM at all. All that was requested was a thank you in the opening post. Instead, we got the over reaction of Feeyo removing his ROM, and claiming that it was the VillainROM team's fault.

As I said in Feeyo's thread, I have no problem with him at all, and welcome him as another developer in the community.

Before anyone starts - this is not about which ROM is better, and which thread has more views. Look at my relationship with Behnaam/RaiderX. Yes - they were competition, I suppose, but they are both friends of mine on GTalk. Many a time have we all helped one another with a ROM. If it was about jealousy - surely I'd be jealous of Behnaam? He's an excellent developer.

All I wanted from this whole situation is credit where it was due. That's a line of text in the post. Everything else could have remained the same and we could have moved on. I think the best thing to do is for Feeyo to come back to XDA and get over the situation. It's really not as big a deal as it has become. Calm down, think logically - and continue posting your ROMs.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Andro1d:
on my view as a developer (not rom, but other-code) and as htc rom user i think:

It's a pitty that users are allowed to accuse someone to be a thief w/o having any evidence (see this link)

I think XDA lost the best Hero ROM (personal opinion), if Feeyo stays out

Flamers who flame in other threads should be punished hard and immediately. I see (and saw) different Villain-Users (User!! not Devs) who flame regular on other ROM threads

And from a coder point of view: I personally give a sh*t of credits. Im coding in GPL and or BSD license, but honestly, the whole GPL-Credit thingy is just an egomaniacal habit. I therefore mostly release on a BSD-alike license (but, ya this is personal)

With a bit of "nice" attitude the VR (Dev) team (nprussel&co) had the chance to not escalate this whole mess. But im not 100% sure if this (ever) was their intention.

Fact is, I lost (probably) a ROM. The best one so far. And I (as a user) give a f*** about the reasons, who started or who's right or not. :(
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Piercy0812:
you cant see the reasons behind it because they were deleted(by egz i belive), not gonna start it up here wait for the proper thread, but there was villain stuff found in his rom.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] nprussell:
This should have been resolved by PM. It really shouldn't need this, but apparently it does.

To answer this question - yes, I think the town hall thing would be a good idea. We're not out to burn Feeyo, or anyone else for that matter.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Lennyuk:
Well feeyo abused that by posting your pm in public (without permission)

further to that I agree mainly with the above, all we asked was for credit, then Feeyo took upon himself to remove his own rom (and blamed it on villain) then he has taken the extreme step to remove himself from xda and again (placed the blame on villain) when really we have done nothing wrong at all.

Maybe some of us got a bit angry but nothing majorly bad was said, at least not from what I saw.

It just got way out of hand and was not helped when respective "fan boys" and I hate using that term but it fits now, got involved.

It should have ended when I tried to end it hours ago, then again when the mod stepped in.

There has always been a culture of sharing on here, and villain has always been party to that, it has only been recently that a few "devs" have for whatever reason stopped this, it might be due to ignorance, but in some is due to the fact they are glory hunters (not naming who it is but we all know! and its not feeyo!)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Andro1d:
you (YOU personally) accused feeyo that he has stolen code. So YOU should have evidence that he had. Not others. And thats exactly what I wrote above.

"I heard there was smthing that was wrong". Bwa... either you have evidence, or, just keep your hands off of the keyboard. thx. :mad:
[Hero, G2 Touch General] dna777:
Nobody will burn Feeyo because he didn´t do anything wrong.

There is a misunderstanding point here.. why all devs can hack everything without crediting anyone.. i didn´t see any credits to the originals android/google developers neither for the htc devs in any post from any rom..

So what´s the big deal of using someone theme in a rom???
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Lennyuk:
See this is where the biggest part of the missunderstanding has occured, we are not talking about a theme here!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Andro1d:
question: how would you on such a "problem".

on public: everything is calm, and nice, and all VR people are such nice guys

on pm: bwa, you should be banned for that but if you go down on your knees, then maybe we'll see

Feeyo's public posting of the pm was not nice, and not ok. 100% ack. But, you know for sure that there wasn't more behind the scenes ?

Nobody knows (beside of the involved parties, and their pm inboxes). And tbh i dont think we ever know what exactly happened. It's just a pitty how this whole thing escalated.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Lennyuk:
Well I posted all my exchange Pm'd with feeyo on the villain thread (after he gave me permission) and it showed that I was generally trying to sort it out, no anger or accusations just a friendly member of the community, he then gave a bad language response probably due to him talking to others that I didn't know about at that time.

Both parties are probably at fault here for why it escalated the way it did, we just now need to move on, learn from this so it does not happen again.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Piercy0812:
lol. im not even gonna bother writing a response to your obvious flame (did you not read the rules above?). as said, ill wait for the thread.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] kendong2:
i voted no, i personally am done with uber-lameness of xda. @mods: nice try, but if you always wait for the very last moment (or even the one after that) it will break eventually. you have successfully split the hero community in two or more groups, congratulations. i will stay in mine, which is villainrom.

since criticism is not really an option here i expect this comment to be deleted soon, goodbye everyone who decides to stay here. there were some nice moments, although not too many of them. guess that is the fate of public forums without proper moderation... :(
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Piercy0812:
i know that feeling, but im still optimistic.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] oc2:
Thats a playschool here. Really funny.

Since feeyo starts his work with the excelent cronos rom ppl try to give feeyo a bash/clout.

Anybody looks inside his roms to find a wrong part.

That ppl should better look into his own roms to fix the own buggy and laggy roms.

No meeting is needed. Use your brains ppl!

hf
[Hero, G2 Touch General] spence91:
I think that none of this would have mattered if it wasn't for the fact that cronos had the best ROM. The whole thing smacks of jealousy to me.

I'm sure that cronos did pinch some stuff and/or vice versa, but such is the nature of hacking.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] dna777:
What you said it´s so clear.. and NOBODY can argue with that.

So what the problem at all?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] devil-kin:
Giving credit is not gonna kill him.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Nemo0815:
Yeah, but I cannot see credits to Feeyo for the stuff Villain guys took out of one of his earlier ROMs, or did i miss something?

That theme thing everythings about isn't even working correctly and would have been removed due to public moan in the next Rom again anyways!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] dna777:
Does any other rom give credit to google developers? or the htc manufactures? or to the lady of starbucks?

Does anyone read the credits of film?

Hacking is credit-free
[Hero, G2 Touch General] seshmaru:
>Based on the official HTC release

pretty sure that's giving credit. Also google is plastered all over the Android OS, this is also "giving credit".

Atleast check your facts before you say things.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] alim5375:
Hey to all C and V developers and supporters,

I have been following up on the entire series of this happening event, and I guess everyone of us should have control your use of words in the forum posting to avoid flaming and fighting. I have tried most of the cooked roms in XDA forum before, some roms shined in the A moment while the other shined in the B moment. Competition is good for the development of theme, so is sharing of information.

Both parties commit wrongdoings at different time. I guess C has the right to take off his rom when he found out that V sends a PM to him, without considering to give credit to V. It's not necessary to insist someone to give credit anyway, given that it is pretty normal as each dev would like to keep their rom in their original look. Things should have come to an end by the time C took off his rom from public circulation. If we don't use those word like "steal somebody's work", "accusation", etc, then issues may be resolved in a more amicable manner.

I am pretty sad to see things come to this ending.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ddotpatel:
As far as I know, Feeyo brought that up a while ago, he saw similarities in his ROM and Villian 6. Villian Team responded by saying that the similarities in question were present due to the same base being used, the similarities were also present in other ROMs using the same Eris or Legend (or whatever) base.

Then nothing came back from Feeyo. It looked to me like he made a mistake, someone correct me if I'm wrong?

And as for today,.... From what I read before things got out of hand, is all it would have taken was abit of recognition and credit to nip this in the bud. .....But it has now progressed from that and is unfortunate that Feeyo has tried to use this to try and manipulate the community by placing the blame on the Villain guys.

They did not make him remove his ROM, and they certainly did not make him leave.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] :
The problem is, that from the very beginning of Feeyo's thread, Villain supporters (including you, in particlular kendong2 and later even nprussell) envaded his thread with arrogant accusations, as if the initially good work they did, would allow them to judge about other dev.

It's a pitty and bad sign for xda, that their mod's are blind on one eye. XDA has lost much credibility and personally I will not only move avay from everything the Villain team is gona devolop, but also look more into alternative dev-forums.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] seshmaru:
Because using the ROM which works the best is RIDICULOUS right? Lets judge the ROMs on who made them rather than the ROMs performance and capabilities!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ddotpatel:
The only reason he got grief on the 1st day was because he claimed he had compiled the kernel from source when he hadn't yet done so, regardless of whether he had the ability or not, that was a lie, then he was unwilling to share. And If it wasn't for the likes of Kendong, we would all be praising Feeyo asif he was the messiah.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] egzthunder1:
You guys are a fiery bunch, are you not? :D

This is simply a poll thread. This is not the discussion floor (which means all my rules don't apply here, and regular forum rules do). Please stop all the argument in here (there will be time for that soon enough) :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ddotpatel:
Indeed we are,... we thought you had given us permission to start fighting!!! :-)

Do we reckon this has reached a conclusion now that the Devs involved have resolved some issues? Let us hope so.

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[Hero, G2 Touch General] egzthunder1:
I'd still like to take a shot at doing this since I believe it will bring out more good than not.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] nprussell:
As far as I'm concerned, the issue is now resolved and this doesn't need to happen.

It's quite clear that neither party expresses any interest in using files from one another's ROMs, and from how Pulser (annon) and Feeyo were speaking last night it seems that the hostility has died off.

I will also admit that I probably overstepped the line with my PM; so I apologise Feeyo for getting into argument with you about something I didn't have all the facts on. I have sent this to Feeyo via PM, so he's aware of my intention to apologise for my part in it.

I hope this can now be swept under the rug.

Oh, and get your ROM back up ASAP. Competition is a good thing. :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Lennyuk:
Villain never took anything, feeyo claimed we did but it was just his missunderstanding that we based the rom on the same leak all roms based on that leak had the same files feeyo claimed we took.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] :
The main problem in this debate was not so much using or not of files from other ROM's, but the disgusting and organized difamation of a group of user/dev. (Villain) against an individual dev. by envading his thread. I appreciate that you personally did appologize. As the leader of the flaming group you should however also appologize for the behaviour of your group, since it is it very unlikely that the most fiercy flamers such as kendong will appologize himself. You should also make it clear that you will exclude anyone from your group that will continue with such attitude. And finally the xda mod's should appologize for never having intervened against the VR mobbing.

My 2 cents since the mods remain silent on the conequence of the poll
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ddotpatel:
I don't think it should be up to Nathan to apologise on anyone else's behalf. We are all adults and should be accountable for our own behaviour. Just as how Feeyo isn't to blame for his followers comments.

..... But I do think that Pulser is a MASSIVE credit to the Villain team. Respect!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Lennyuk:
agreed things got out of hand and people in both peoples camps said things they shouldn't have done yesterday. That is why I tried my utmost to not say anything I would regret and or/cause problems with others.

Arguing with people is never going to get anywhere, especially over a forum.

Yes maybe shen and kendon said things they shouldn't have but we do have to remember this was not all one sided, so if blame is to be had it should be shared by all that were involved.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] akuma24:
Mr MOD person, i think as one of the villian fellas said this should now be buried as Feeyo and villian resolved this yesterday. I think either keeping this thread open or starting the town hall will be of no benefit.

Hello Mr ddotpatel :-)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ddotpatel:
Your a cheeky little fella aint you? You make me laugh man!

Let me reiterate,... I am not in any way affilia... oh sod it!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] akuma24:
lol, I was just saying hello mate, didnt realise you would add 2 n 2 together, sorry mate :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ddotpatel:
No, No,... I took it in jest,... I don't actually take anything too seriously.

We're still good.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] egzthunder1:
Based on latest developments and requests from all of you, I will call this off.

However, there is still the issue that there are guys here who are still giving 2, 3, and 4 cents on this "dead" issue. Due to the fact that the parties have already settled their differences, I will not accept/allow threads or posts that start putting more gas on the fire, consider that as flaming, and act as per forum rules (close, delete, ban, etc.)

Are you guys ok with this?

Last thing, to andy9... we need to apologize? On an issue that would have probably gotten solved a lot sooner if it wasn't for members giving their opinions on a private matter, which shouldn't have happened in the first place?

We are happy to intervene and mediate (not moderate) whenever something like this comes up (accusations of stolen work and the likes). We are not happy to have to intervene and start having to delete rude, offensive, laced with foul language posts against people. It is very time consuming, and moreover you guys tend to be disrespectful against everyone (including us).

I will close this thread and consider the matter closed. Please act accordingly from now on.

I will reopen Feeyo's thread as well.

Thread unstuck 7/8/2010
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] dully79:
Im trying to install a themed rosie nav bar but everytime i reboot HTC sense keeps force closing, any ideas.:confused:

thanks tristan.

Solved:wrong xml's
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] tristan202:
Have you resigned it with a testkey? If yes, that's your problem. Just replace the images and push to phone.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] pfg51:
Hello...

Very new at this and was wondering if anyone could direct me to a good WM 6.5 upgrade for my HTC Touch Dual?? Thanks!!

pfg51
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] rfvalerio:
WM 6.5 ON a Touch Dual Neon300

I Need it but in a Neon300
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] charlesf:
Use Insomnia. The link is very easy to find in the forum.
[Desire Themes and Apps] Bengaal:
Hi everyone......

Someone knows if it is possible to have some widgets, for example, weather widget or something on the (stock) lockscreen?

That would be nice.... :cool:
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anonymopt:
Hey, i own a nexus and i live in Portugal currently my nexus is with 2.1 and i can't buy paid apps at the android market will this change with froyo?

I've seen some rooms like CyanogenMod but never tried to unlock my device will the battery time increase? Will i lose my installed apps?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] christiankk:
If you install CyanogenMod you will get laid more. Battery time is uncertain tho :(
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] big_adventure:
I vote: Post of the day!
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lnjryan:
I second that vote!

I can see the Headline on Engadget

Install Cyanogen and get laid more! (Root Required)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] uansari1:
Are you kidding?! More like post of the month!
[HD2 General] aLlamaWithARifle:
This is probably a bit of a stupid question with probably a very obvious answer. But why are all the apps for windows mobile all ugly?

We have HTC sense and that looks great why can't other apps keep the htc sense feel like from menus or anything instead of reverting to windows mobile style.
[HD2 General] nobnut:
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Some people for example even love ginger children.

Many WinMo apps have been written to look the way they are so that they fitted in with a standard WinMo look and feel. Others were simply designed by talentless and tasteless folk (like Steve Jobs).
[HD2 General] jdwrrzmm:
Believe it or not the apps have actually got better looking recently.

ETA: If you go to the link in my sig and check my recommended apps, you'll see that a lot of apps do look nice. Slacker, Bing, etc.
[HD2 General] madindehead:
I think it should be compulsory to use the Sense SDK Look 'n' Feel now for every app developed for Windows Mobile :p
[HD2 General] chuck232:
Partly because developers != designers.

At the same time, HTC Sense is but a few years old, while Windows Mobile and its associated 'ugly' interface have been around for 10. It's a bit unreasonable to expect all the applications to reflect the updated design of a single manufacturer.
[HD2 General] conantroutman:
Thats bordering on fascism! Do you work for apple? ;)
[HD2 General] aLlamaWithARifle:
So it is actually possible to have a good looking app?
[HD2 General] Kalavere:
It's because WM doesn't have a unified screen size, like the iPhone for example. So the apps/games have to be made in VGA, QVGA, WVGA to name three of many many others. So the games have to be made for each naitive screen size to actually look 'pretty', and the poorer looking apps on the HD2 are made for a screen size that isn't WVGA.
[HD2 General] chuck232:
Speaking of ugly apps, is there a starter's guide or someplace to look for skinning stock applications (in particular, I'm interested in Outlook, as email's one of my top use cases, and the default skin looks awful)? I can code, but am at a loss as to where to even start. I did a search on the forums to no avail. To clarify, I'm not simply looking for skins, but am interested in creating my own for specific applications. Any pointers?
[HD2 General] kilrah:
Most of the newer apps (< 1-2 years) do look good, and on every screen size, take G-Alarm, Resco Photo Manager, Opera 10, etc...

Most other blunt-looking apps are several years old, and date back from when visual design didn't have any consideration from developers, they were just using the default looks and controls rather than spending as much time and effort redesigning their own UI as needed to actually develop the application's functionality. Pocket Outlook is just the same as it was 5 years ago or even more...

But now pretty much everybody agrees that custom graphics is worth it...
[HD2 General] jason07:
This really is quite a naive question... if it was all about simple, smooth looking apps we would have bought an iPhone...

Having said that, what particular programs are you looking for? Most functions of a WinMo phone can now be utilised using programs with amazing UIs.

Browser: Opera Mobile 10/Mini 5

Email: You have sense... and even when you open an individual email (where it defaults to Outlook) we have pinch-to-zoom brilliance

SMS: You have sense...

Contacts/Phone: You have sense...

Photos/Videos: HTC, or try Resco Photo Manager

File explorer: Standard one is actually fine imo, but there's also the skinnable Resco, Total Commander, Throttle Explorer

Others: Google maps, Facebook, iGO8

There's a plethora of options out there.
[HD2 General] brussel:
Hi all,

on my HD2 calling directly from text messages does not work. If I get a text from someone in my phone book and then press the talk/call button I get taken to the phone but that persons number is not automatically entered.

help??
[HD2 General] brussel:
interestingly if I go straight from the tab on the sense home page then it works, but if I am viewing the message on the same screen that I type a reply on, then it does not work..is this the default behavior?
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zacharywater:
a hello from australia~ everyone, hows life?

this is my first post here, but unfortunately, I m seeking for some help~

c I m currently using SPB Mobile Shell 3.5.3, Build 9885.

as one of the functions of this thingy, I supposed to be able download/syn some of my contacts details (such as profile pic, n such) from their facebook.

somehow, as I have updated my phone to 6.5 which comes with a new IE, this facebook function is not working as before.

after login through the function, it just said there is some sort of error n keep asking me to try again and again...

is there anyone here using SPB Mobile Shell and experienced the same problem?

at the end, I just wanna thank u all for reading my question. I do noticed there is quite a number of chinese ppl on this website, and so am I.

Peace out!
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NEO130:
Take a update to 3.5.5 version. It´s new by SPB and look what happened.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zacharywater:
ah... thx... but any source of the update? cant seem to find it anyway~
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] comeradealexi:
their website (I assumed you purchased it legally as i did.)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] booon:
For me, this app is very sluggish, compared to the stock android app (which I actually prefer) is there a way to get the stock messaging app to work on a sense rom? or is there a way to modify the htc messaging app? for instance, remove contact photos from conversation view?

Just some thoughts, would love to know if it is possible, and if it is, how to do it!

Ben
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] pauldgroot:
+1 for this, i'd love to use stock messaging on a sense rom.