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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zevele:
Can't these samples be cut at a point in which the volume matches the initial volume?

1. Maybe we can use a lower bitrate? are the samples in stereo? maybe we can downmix them?

2. I guess that if the sounds are installed on the storage card its not that bad...

I tried the mp3 method but (afair) the delay was too long... I guess I could try again...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] conantroutman:
I tried cutting them here there and everywhere.... because they are samples of a real instrument the very act of the player drawing the bow over the string causes the pitch and volume to constantly shift... only slightly but enough to make it very difficult to loop....

I'll keep trying with some different samples and software to see what I can do....

In the meantime.....

I'll bounce those wav's down to 8bit mono and see how that works.....

Will post em up when I'm done......
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zevele:
Thanks for the effort...

Z.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zevele:
Ahhh HVGA... Well, I dont have anyway to test it, but I guess I could rescale the vga samples by 75%... I'll post a zip file later with the compatible skn file...

Z
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] conantroutman:
Happy to help..........

Heres those 8bit wavs...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zevele:
Thanks conantroutman, actually it works pretty good. I need to make some more adjustments to the application and I'll release a new version that could handle those...

Would it be possible to resample the piano samples too (to 8bit mono), I think performance is better with those samples...

And one more request... :p

Could you also supply the C and C# of the 4th octave also? (as the keyboard go thus high...)

Thanks a lot,

Z.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] conantroutman:
No problem at all......

I'll have that all sorted for you asap.......... (probably tomorrow)

:D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zevele:
HVGA skin

jamesbbarros, (or any body else who whish to run SimplePiano on HVGA device) here is an attempt to create HVGA skin for SimplePiano,

http://rapidshare.com/files/401093435/Default.zip

To install extract it into the "/Program Files/SimplePiano/Skins/Default" directory. Please test it and let me know if its good (unlikely) or needs some more tweaking (more likely).

Thanks,

Z.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] xclarinetistx:
Simple Piano 4.2 UI Design (Saplorer UI)

Hi, 1st Post! This UI was intended for Cris Row-land's Piano, but was discontinued =(, thus did not put it up. Now that its continued, I decide to upload it for others. I re-edited slightly and it now works on my Xperia X1.

Design Philosophy: (Sorry, as I have no screen shots.) Design student...

- Metallic, Brushed Aluminium Design with Golden Highlights.

Inspired from my Xperia X1 Brushed Aluminium. XD

Its in ZIP format, Unzip and copy it into the skin folder itself. Sorry, as I have no idea how to cab it, will anyone teach?

WVGA Only.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zevele:
Very nice, Screenshot's attached...

Well... I can make a cab, I'm using VS8 and modify the inf file it generates and then I use "CabWiz" to generate the cab again... VS8 gives very comfortable interface to generate the required ini file...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jamesbbarros:
HVGA

Thanks, Z.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zevele:
You're welcome. Is it good? if so, I'll add it to all the skins...

Z.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] impreZzA:
Oh man, I feel like a real rookie :o

Cause s.th isnt going well, I downloaded the app at rapidshare and installed on storage card.

The problem is I cant find any link or start entry on my device ... whats going wrong?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zevele:
There should be a link under the start menu. Anyway the program should be installed under "\Storage Card\Program Files\SimplePiano".

What OS/device are you on?

Z.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] conantroutman:
Hey Z,

Heres those piano sounds bounced down to 8bit mono... drastic improvement in the file size...

The high C and C# for the violin sounds are in there too.......
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zevele:
SimplePiano V43

Hi,

I put links to a new version in the first post. I also included new links to the skins as some were updated (HVGA&QVGA for the default skin for example). There are also cabs that includes the new sounds by conantroutman, who did an excellent job. Thanks to all the contributors...

Please let me know if there are any problems (and also if there aren't ;))

Enjoy,

Z.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] conantroutman:
I'm gonna take it for a test drive right now....

Thanks Z :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zevele:
Great!!! let me know how you find it...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] conantroutman:
Works like a charm! Seems more responsive using the 8bit samples.

I couldn't see the option to change the minimum note sustain length,

is that implemented yet?

Great work Z! Thanks :D

Thanks to the guys who made the skins too!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zevele:
Yes it's implemented, it is inside the Sound.lst file (under the "SimplePiano/Sounds/[SoundName]" folder). It is optional, I don't think I defined it for the Piano sound, but you can see it in the Violin one (I set it to 100ms).

Z.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zevele:
I've put a description of the *.skn files in the second post (I'll add also one for the sound.lst file later). I hope this will help those who wish to create new skins.

Please let me know if something is unclear, and I'll try to fix it.

Z.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] impreZzA:
hmm, kinda weird, when I tried the app in the morning I was hitting the skin link, finally I found the right link :o

hmm, strange because I clicked all the time on the same link, so my mistake :o

nonetheless another question:

I thought this is multitouch, mine isnt working with multitouch?

thanks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zevele:
It supports dualtouch on the HD2. To enable dual touch you need to press the "Register" button on the "Device" settings tab. I also suggest that you'll set the finger interval to a smaller value (I'm on 0 now). after setting those you have to perform soft reset.

Z.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pinele:
thank you ...

This version work great on HD2
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] appoggio:
I love it!!!:d
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Blades:
I can host these files on my comcast ftp server.. and hotfile too. Just let me know if you want me to. Rapidshare is a pita.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zevele:
Thanks, but currently I'm not asking for any donations so consider it as supporting the developer

Z.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] NorrinRadd:
@zevele

Great job on this!!!! Really loving it on my TP2, especially w/ the new skins and instruments! Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ivanwong:
Yes, work with HTC HD mini ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zevele:
I'm glad to hear...

(just to make sure) you do not need the Default.zip from the post you cited, the cabs in the first post include the HVGA resolution.

Z.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] yut916:
cool thanks. sorry for such a late response but i've had computer problems, and then i bricked my phone lol.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] AcceL7:
thanxxxxxxxxxxxx
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zevele:
update

Just an update: I'm still working on the app... I've added a continuous scrolling and improved a little bit the performance... I've found out that I get best performance using the violin sound (conantroutman, maybe you have an idea why?). I've changed the format for the skins (again... sorry about that). I'd also like to make it possible to record during a playback (so you could play duet with yourself...).

Z.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Brunobiseu:
I'd really like to try SimplePiano on my Treo Pro (320x320 screen) but unfortunatey I can't get it to work.

I always get a "resolution not suported" window...

Am I doing something wrong?

If not, could SimplePiano be ported to my device resolution?

Thank you in advance,

:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zevele:
It is fairly easy to adapt a skin to new resolutions... I could try doing so over the next weekend and post it here...

Z.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Brunobiseu:
That would be great! :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] conantroutman:
hey Z, really glad to hear your still developing this....

I cant think of any reason why the violin samples would give you better performance, sorry....

it could be due to them having a more gradual attack than the piano but im not sure....

the new features sound sweet, looking forward to a new version....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ephestione:
as I understand, with the violin you're loading 3 small files: attack, repeatable sample, release, it should be normal they are managed faster than what is a single "big" sample like piano. And probably the quality of the sample of the violin is lower, making it for less cpu usage during playback
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] conantroutman:
yeah that's probably right, theres bound to be less data, in the violin samples than the piano ones, all the samples were reduced to 8 bit mono to help the performance......
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] uniqs:
Could somebody explain me how to prevent this application rotation? It starts in landscape mode as expected, but when I keep my PDA (HTC HD2 aka Leo) horizontally the application rotates and takes portrait orientation, then part of screen is hidden, no Settings and Exit buttons shown. When I rotate the PDA back to portrait orientation - application returns to the landscape mode. I've checked the G-sensor settings in registry and with Rotation Manager - Simple Piano does not appear in the list of rotated applications.

Please help.

Device: HTC Leo

ROM: ChuckyROM GTX + CHT 1.8.5 from July 7th
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zevele:
That's weird, I don't do any rotation, the app was designed in portrait mode (to appear as if it's landscape, but it's portrait nontheless). No rotation should be allowed for it, if you added it to the registry's g-sensor key, you should remove it... if you're using some application to apply rotation, you should exclude simplepiano from it...

Hope it helps...

Z.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] uniqs:
I didn't find simplepiano in rotation list, but i started cleaning it and found registered class named PaPaGo. After this class was deleted from white list of rotated apps the simplepiano strarted working es expected with no rotation.

Thank you for help and for this brilliant application.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zevele:
Great! I'm glad to see people enjoy this app...

Z.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ephestione:
I read you solved, but another workaround, which I use with other apps, is to have LMT installed, and assign a gesture to the Rotate command, thhat will de-rotate anything which has been previously auto-rotated. Sure, you would need to do another rotate to bring the situation to normal
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Trekfan422991:
can somebody post a mirror link for the cab rapidshare wont let me do any more free downloads....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] uniqs:
Thank you for advice, I'll take a look at LMT anyway.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zevele:
I have LMT installed, this is a wonderful application... but you can't use the dualtouch support both in SimplePiano and LMT, so usually, I turn it off when using SimplePiano - maybe there is a way to blacklist SimplePiano in LMT? I've never looked in to this...

Just checked the Links, all of them are on-line...

Z.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ephestione:
I used to have the ability to play chords in simplepiano with lmt running... but that was with yout very first MT version of simplepiano.

tbh I0ve not been playing with this app for long, but I follow this thread out of itnerest ;)

There is a registry key in hkcu/software/lmt/blacklist (or something similar) in multistring format, you should be able to edit that with a multistring editor like advanced taskmanager's one

well, what he means is that even if the files are there, rapidshare blocked his ip address because he already downloaded X MB of stuff ;) That's the problem with RS
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zevele:
That's interesting, can you explain how you used LMT to play chords?

Z.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ephestione:
ehm... nono :D

I mean, I didn't have to shutdown LMT, and the chords in simplepiano worked just fine anyway ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zevele:
Rectengular QVGA (320x320)

Ok, I've made a patch for the 320x320 (Rectangular QVGA). You need to extract the files from the attached zip file into the "Default" skin folder. Let me know if it does the work.

I'll include these files with the next release I'll make...

Z.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] josuema:
HVGA

The CAB file just include VGA and WVGA resolution. Please re-check.

I´m downloading the Default.zip.

Tks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] josuema:
Auto rotate

How can I prevent it from auto-rotating?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zevele:
Oops sorry, I'll look into it over the weekend...

Z.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zevele:
Rotation is not implemented in SimplePiano (it's always landscape). If SimplePiano is autorotating then you either:

a. Enabled it via the registry (in which case you need to remove the setting from the registry).

b. Enabled it via BsB tweaks or something similar (in which case you need to disabled it via BsB).

c. You're running changeScreen or something similar (in which case you need to add SimplePiano to the exceptions list).

Btw, there was a discussion about this a few posts back...

Z.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Brunobiseu:
Dear Zevele,

Thank you for the patch. I finally got SimplePiano to open on my Treo Pro, although I was forced to rename a lot of files on the Default folder, by adding a Q after their original name (Ex: twonormal.png to twonormalQ.png). Probably in result of that, the SimplePiano display was all messed up (overlapping unreadable numbers...).

I also noticed the piano keyboard is displayed horizontally (instead being aligned with the... phone keyboard).

Could you help (again)?

Thank you in advance,

Bruno
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zevele:
You can't just rename the original files - they were made for WVGA/VGA resolutions. The Q after the original name means that the files were adapted to the QVGA resolution (I just resampled the original files).

Try using the QVGA default cab from v4.2 (on the first post). Let me know if it helped...

There seems to be a mess with the skin in the 4.3 version, I hope I'll find some time over the weekend to sort it out.

Sorry for the mess :p

Z.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] me:
Why are all the downloads on RapidShare?

Hi-

I've been trying for hours to download your app, and the associated files.

For hours RS says "no slots for free users". (I think they are becoming more hardball, in trying to get people to pay them.)

Why not upload the files here to XDA? Why put people through the RS crap?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] demon child:
Hours? I've tried for days with no luck :(

My IP address is shared for many customers.

Please upload it here at XDA.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Russell.Eclair:
Cool! I can play piano in my X1 too. :p
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Osprey00:
First, very nice app, zevele. Thanks.

Second, I was annoyed by the fact that all of the piano sounds were cut off at the end (before the note faded out completely), so I went through them all and faded them out, myself. You can download the replacement files here: SimplePiano Replacement Piano Sounds.zip

zevele, feel free to replace the ones included in SimplePiano with them, if you'd like. Also, I'd like to place a vote for making mickesjo's skin the default skin, since it looks so much better than the current default. The replacement keys for his skin are nice, too, and are worth considering. Replacing the current, default skin would make SimplePiano seem like a nicer product "out-of-the-box" and would save most people the extra effort of downloading and installing the nicer skin.

BTW, for those who can't download from the RapidShare links, I've uploaded the .cab for SimplePiano, the .cab for mickesjo's skin and my Piano replacement sounds all together for you: SimplePiano.zip
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zevele:
Thanks, Osprey00, I have added those links to the first post.

Z.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pmprog:
Does this support WQVGA?

Also, it won't actually let me download. Rapidshare is saying something about flooding (???), and Uploading saying I've reached my limit. Neither site I've used for some time
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zevele:
There is no support for WQVGA, but WVGA skin can be transformed easily to WQVGA by rescaling everything by 0.25

Z.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pmprog:
Thanks. Nice app. One thing that was awkward:

As the Default folder doesn't have a native WQVGA, it wouldn't let me start the app. What I had to do was rename the original Default folder and copy my WQVGA in as Default. Maybe you could scan all installed skins for an acceptable one? Maybe it's not a big deal
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zevele:
Actually that's what the application does. It looks inside a folder for all the *.skn files, and if there is a one that fits your resolution it uses it (take a look at the second post).

Z.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pmprog:
You're probably right, I was probably getting confused on when I ran the program and got the error message and when I'd copied skins across. I've not exactly been on the ball lately ;-)

Edit:

Not sure how difficult this would be, but could you add pitch shifting, so rather than having a sample for each note, you can just have a base note and adjust it to the pressed key? (Like trackers do). mickesjo's skin leaves plenty of blank space of my screen in widescreen that I could add more keys too, but the skn file doesn't support more than 8 white keys and you'd need the extra samples too
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cris_rowlands:
Woah. This is the first time Ive looked back at the development of SimplePiano.

Im glad to see its still going & looking good :D

Im genuinely tempted to go get my TouchPro2 out again just to have a play with it. (currently using WP7 instead - LG Optimus 7)

I put a post on my website about SimplePiano, but after seeing this, Im definitely going to link over to this thread so people can see how much further youve managed to take it :D

Congrats zevele ^___^
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cxxe:
Finally I found this!

I've been looking for a good piano for two years or so.

With this i'm quite happy!

Thanks to the developper!

Hope you're going on for Windows, not only w phone 7, but also WM6.x ;-)

By the way, I'm also looking for a good metronome ...

Greez

Chris
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sam-2007:
Hvga skins

Great tanks zevele for his brilliant program

i re sized two hvga skins:

...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zevele:
Thanks sam-2007, links added to the first post.

Z.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jbs68:
sam-2007 and zevele,

Thank you to both to have integrated HVGA Resolution !!!!!

Example to be followed by the other developers and programmers :)

King Regards, JBS68
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Chillout:
wow this a nice program!

would be awesome to have portamento in it too :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wiberg:
Can't control volume on Touch HD

Thanks for the nice and simple app. I use it on a Touch HD.

But, there is no volume control. Changing the volume on the Touch HD does nothing in SimplePiano V4.3, so SimplePiano plays at full volume all the time. Any suggestions on how I could fix this?

Another suggestion: Would it be possible to simply scroll the keyboard right or left/drag it from side to side? This would be a nice feature, because you would not need to move a whole octave.

Anyway, I appreciate the program even how it is.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MrBeOTP2:
really funny app . Love it

My skin :)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us

File name: SimplePiano43.CAB File size: 6.39 MB
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zevele:
I can't help you there, on the HD2 the main volume also affects SimplePiano's volume - don't know how to fix it for the touch HD...

Sliding the keyboard is not good for changing octaves because then you can't slide your finger over the keyboard for playing, but I did implement (never released) a slider instead of the three buttons - there you don't have to move a whole octave... The problem is there is a memory leak in the unreleased version that I've never solved - that's why I've never released it...

Z.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zevele:
nice!

Z.
[Hero CDMA General] Kcarpenter:
I will be waiting for this instead of the dual core snap dragon 1.5s. First carrier to get it gets me.

http://m.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/06/next-motorola-android-phone-to-feature-2-ghz-processor/

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[Hero CDMA General] abcdfv:
As long as it's not GSM/Versizon, I'd jump ship.
[Hero CDMA General] jerry43812:
I HATE motorola. Junk junk junk. That's only my opinion though. Rather have a dual core.
[Hero CDMA General] KitsapAndroid:
I share this opinion. Every Motorola phone I have ever owned has been pure garbage. If this processor exists somewhere, please let someone ether than Motorola have it. And yes, I think a dual core would make more sense than a single 2ghz core.
[Hero CDMA General] abcdfv:
Agreed, that's exactly why PCs went to multi-cores instead of trying to break the 4GHz barrier
[Hero CDMA General] bigupurself7:
I love having my phone over clocked, but what the hell are you all doing with your phone that you need 2 Gigahertz?
[Hero CDMA General] abcdfv:
I stream most of my porn, and even with OC and JIT it still stutters.
[Hero CDMA General] nebenezer:
Motorola apexed with the StarTac. Since then everything they've put out has been garbage, except maybe the Droid.

Agreed also with the 2cores. I would prefer a 1.5g dual core in an HTC over a 2g Motorola device.
[Hero CDMA General] afma_afma:
???????????? :p

And yeah as everyone here, motorola is junk.

the build quality is cheap in certain phones.

But i do not know about the Droid...

but in general i would never choose a motorola...
[Hero CDMA General] Kcarpenter:
So my initial understanding of the Dual Core snap dragons was that there would be an Application Core and a modem core. Hence dual core. The modem core really doesn't do a whole lot in comparision, keeps the radio/phone going. Application core takes care of everything else...

BUT - I'll admit for the first time this week I was wrong.

The current single core MSM chipsets actually have 2 cores like I detailed above, the Dual core chips have 2 application cores instead of one, and they have a thrid modem core....

Forgive my ignorance. :(

Take my internets from me.
[Hero CDMA General] tejasrichard:
Video chat.
[Hero CDMA General] abcdfv:
That's why I didn't get the Droid, it felt like a cheap peice of plastic.
[Hero CDMA General] nebenezer:
LMAo

That would be disproportionate.

At the very least this is an interesting topic of discussion ;)

VERY interesting about the multi-cores, I didn't know any of that stuff about how they are used to manage the phone.
[Hero CDMA General] jerry43812:
You just finished saying what I was too lazy to write :P
[Hero CDMA General] radxcoresteven:
But since batteries aren't as technologically advanced as processors, won't the phone battery die quicker?
[Hero CDMA General] nebenezer:
Not if the power management methods keep up with cpu advancements

There are ways to improve battery life without the battery technology changing.

Think about it this way: gasoline has not changed much in the last x number of years but there are now cars on the road that get in excess of 60 miles per gallon.

*edit- Although... how cool would it be if they figured out how to get 3k mAh out of the batteries we have now?? :D