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[Desire Android Development] M4j3s7ic12:
Help with debranding Orange HTC Desire

Hello all,

I have just received my shiny new HTC Desire from Orange UK and wish to debrand it before I start setting it up and using it properly.

For the last few days, I have been reading up on the different methods for rooting and debranding, but am still very confused about what I need to do. I would appreciate it hugely if someone could let me know exactly how I can go about reaching this.

Phone Specs:

HBOOT: 0.83.0001

Software Version: 1.22.61.1

Screen Type: SLCD

I am not really interested in rooting my phone as of yet and only wish to debrand to remove the Orange apps and bloatware. I just want to have a normal stock 2.2 Froyo firmware (with HTC Sense) which I can use to get future OTA updates (if and when applicable).

It would be great if someone could let me know how to do this, I am afraid I am very new to all of this and was unable to find any details about debranding for this specific software version (an earlier post on this forum mentions that debranding was possible up to 1.21 firmware).

I am running mac OSX, but also have Windows7 on it if necessary.

Thank you very much for this great resource and I look forward to hearing anything from a helpful member who can assist me.

Thanks again.
[Desire Android Development] Newerthman:
I have HBOOT 0.75. What difference between 0.75, 0.80 and 0.92? if 0.80 is better, how can upgrade it?
[Desire Android Development] f4flake:
this user has had some success...

I was trying to post an internal link but it failed because external links are treated as spam...lol.

anyway, it's here showthread.php?t=777776

kin ell, now I have to wait 5 minutes between posts.
[Desire Android Development] vanwalsum:
I think i have made a big mistake. I want to flas my t-mobile branded desire to a normal clean htc rom. I maked a gold card, put it in the phone, and i launched te htc.exe rom and flashed te rom into the phone. everything was going well. But when the flashing process was done, i can't startup my htc! Is isnt doeing enything! I even can not get into the bootloader! Help, what can i do>
[Desire Android Development] Luca83:
fastweb 1.22 to froyo

Hi all, I report my experience with HTC desire fastweb branded. Few weeks ago I've update at 1.22 firmware (from OTA update). I was trying to update to froyo making goldcard but only today I discovery that with this firmware isn't possible to root the phone. First to downgrade to 1.21 firmware I tried to install last froyo ruu and unexpectedly it worked.

Now I have unbranded HTC froyo on branded phone.
[Desire Android Development] Smith2001:
Flashing help

Morning all

After many months of not flashing since we got the froyo update

I debranded my Voda desire with the goldcard method, worked perfect.

however i see theres a new update and after trying the internal method in settings which it reports No.

i downloaded the RUU and try it but get either error 171 once its in bootloader and nothing more (i do have the goldcard in) but i cannot for the life of me remember what to do to fix it.

if anyone has any ideas can you post links for me

thanks
[Desire Android Development] M4j3s7ic12:
Hi again,

Just a message to say I have now successfully achieved what I needed.

I firstly created a gold card on my mac with help from a guide online and then ran the app created by Teppic74 for downgrading 2.2 to 2.1. Although on 2.1 myself, this app flashed the phone with the stock 2.1 firmware.

I had the annoying sim locked message, but took out the sim before updating to 2.2 with the OTA update.

Then the phone was working, but unable to make calls so I had to activate my sim again with Orange, which I could do online.

I now have everything working nicely, no problems with calls, messaging, wifi or 3g connections etc.

Thanks again for this very helpful website and also to Teppic74 for providing everything I needed. It's great to be an Android user, coming from an iPhone, it's a welcome change! :)
[Desire Android Development] GeoTrail:
So, isn't there any way of rooting my Desire? I installed the 402 update that came OTA a few days ago.
[Desire Android Development] dimitrismpower:
Hi , i have an htc orange branded too...

I have unlocked it , to use it any network , with a code that i bought from an internet page.

If i try to debrand it and the phone get sim-locked again , can i use the same unlock code that i have bought or i must buy another one ??

Thank you !!
[Desire Android Development] ClassicalDonkey:
Ok something has gone wrong with my phone i tried to root it but now the screen does not work!

Anyone had this problem and got back from it?

Well it is getting picked up tomorrow and new one is coming!
[Desire Android Development] mister_r:
Hi all,

I have just recently rooted my desire and would like to install one of the custom ROMs. Probably LeeDroid or OpenDesire.

I have backed up my whole phone with Titanium Backup.

Now the only 2 questions I have are:

- When do I install the radio? Before installing the new rom? How do I do it? It's an .img file, so how do I install it? Nandroid backup? And how do i do that?

- What are the advantages of A2SD+? Where do I get an ext4 partition from? Should I convert my entire microsd card to ext4?

Thanks for any help guys, I totally love this forum, sorry if I have asked stuff that's been answered before!
[Desire Android Development] reudyfam:
The link to unroot the .80 bootloader (1.21.405.2) no longer works. Anyone know where else I can get the exe file from? :)
[Desire Android Development] SouthernCountry:
I just bought my wife the A8183 model and it has 2.1. Do I have any options for rooting and custom roms?
[Desire Android Development] macdat:
You have many options....

I have an A8183 model which came Telstra branded (I bought it to use 3G in Uk and US as it has both 3G bands).

First thing I did when I got it out of the box is to install a stock WWE HTC ROM, you'll need to create a Gold Card to do that, you don not need to root unless you really want to.

Look on the first page of this thread for the guide on how to create a gold card and flash a ROM etc (its easy).

Search for 'Shipped ROMs' website to download the ROM you want.
[Desire Android Development] Andaho:
T-Mobile unlock/debrand

Sorry if this has been asked before, but having read through a dozen+ pages of this thread, I've found a few people asking but no answers, to what seems like a common thing to want to do? :rolleyes:

I have an HTC Desire on T-Mobile, I want to unlock/debrand it, simply because I am fed up waiting for t-mobile to release 2.2... I want to get an OTA update from HTC - and any other future updates, and I suppose it would be nice if I could put any network's sim card in it.

I understand from reading the guide that a rooted phone will not receive OTA updates, so how do I make the phone as if I bought it sim-free?

Is this likely to be more hassle than it's worth? - e.g. spending hours and hours of reading... I've already spent over 2 hours reading this thread (and other pages through google), and am nowhere near feeling confident about knowing how to achieve what I want.
[Desire Android Development] BlackBirdf:
More answers for you

-If it isn't mentioned in the rom thread, do it the way you like it, I've installed the rom and then the radio. You've extracted the rar file, don't do so, you have to put it on your sd.

Install rom manager, reboot into recover, and apply update, and then you can select choose file from sd and install it.

-There are some A2SD threads out there, but here's the short form for you:

A2SD+ moves some more files to SD, but some say it's slower. Don't care that much about ext2/3/4, just use rom manager, it will creat an ext3 with up to 512mb for your apps, and format the remaining space with fat32 for your data.

Save your sd data before formating, your sd content is going to be erased.

Sorry, don't have the r5 ones, but I think the link is working aggain.

Any network's card in locked phones: Costs about 20$ on the net, afaik only needs your IMEI and you get your unlock code, offer from modaco's hp:

http://android.modaco.com/index.php?act=announce&f=430&id=12

Updates:

OTA's from xda-dev, so no real OTA's: root your phone, and flash any 2.2 rom (from the dev section)...

Real OTA's: root, then unroot with generic rom file, and then run the official OTA.
[Desire Android Development] BMelz:
Hi, I have a problem trying to load clockwork from the bootloader.

whenever I try to load recovery from the bootloader my device seems to hang on the HTC splash screen, if I initiate recovery from rom manager I have no problems. Has anyone ever heard of this and knows a way I can launch recovery from the bootloader? any advice would be great, thanks.
[Desire Android Development] Bonobow:
I have rooted my Desire,

ROM used now is [FroYo Sense] LeeDrOiD V2.1 (14/09 l Official 2.2

I have HTC sync installed,

I used reflash.exe unrevoked 3

to ROOT.

Now i try RUU_Bravo_TMO_UK_1.21.110.4_Radio_32.36.00.28U_4.06.00.02_2_release_127570_signed

and

RUU_Bravo_TMO_UK_1.15.110.11_Radio_32.30.00.28U_4.05.00.11_release_122755

To UNroot

at (89) I keep getting

ERROR 171 USB CONNECTION ERROR

I tried using

Unroot-RUU-Disire-1.15.405.4

(this worked before) but then i rooted again... and now can't unroot...)

But i get:

ERROR 131 CUSTOMER ID ERROR
[Desire Android Development] MasDroid:
Customer ID errors such as 131 are normally Gold Card errors... I would suggest that you try making a Gold Card and attempt again.
[Desire Android Development] Bonobow:
I got a different CID then the first time..!?

oh well, I re-done the gold card...

but still done the same thing for all 3 .exe's i try running.
[Desire Android Development] actasci:
is there any way to root, unrooted 2.2 OTA? Can anybody point me a guide for this?
[Desire Android Development] GeoTrail:
Yeah, I'd like to know that too.
[Desire Android Development] BlackBirdf:
No, you first have to downgrade back to 2.1 with 0.83, which can be rooted with unrevoked3.

Guide
[Desire Android Development] GeoTrail:
Not quite true ;)

I downloaded unrevoked3 from IRC, ran it on Win7 x64 (Yeah the no no OS). It took it's time but now I got my Desire rooted, running HBOOT .93 and software ver 2.10.405.2.

Got superpermission, got Market Enabler and Navigator Brute running smoothly on the stock ROM.
[Desire Android Development] daraj:
i just got a telus slcd desire unlocked and it looks like i dont have a recovey menu. when i try to reboot recovery it gives me a black screen with the device picture and a red triangle on it. I have to remove battery to reboot again. I used to have the older desire and never had this issue. plz help
[Desire Android Development] GeoTrail:
When you see the triangle, did you try holding down volume up and pressing the power button?
[Desire Android Development] Mr Cheese:
Thanks for this posting. It is one of the clearest I have found.

Just having a problem with a couple of things.

I have a HTC Desire Telstra branded phone (in Australia).

I have not updated to the latest available ROM from HTC yet.

I would like to update to Froyo and also use a Generic HTC ROM that is not modified.

My problems are:

1) I have no idea which ROM to use. I have found a few places with links to stock ROMs but I can't see a way to know which is correct or even what they are. I must be missing something.

2) It is my understanding to do this I need to make a Gold Card. I get stuck at step 4.I dont quite understand where I am to do what is instructed here. Am I doing this on the phone or PC? I am using Windows 7 PC.

I may be missing something simple here.

Any help would be appreciated.
[Desire Android Development] daraj:
Yes I did that.

EDIT: NV i flashed the recovery image for SLCD and it solved my problem
[Desire Android Development] Mr Cheese:
Warning - confussed noob.

Currently running on HTC Desire (Telstra):

Build Ver: 1.16.841.1

I have downloaded from Shipped ROMS:

RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.10.405.2_R_Radio_32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2_release_142828_signed.exe

If I do not want to root, do I just run the above EXE?

Can I downgrade afterwards by just using the HTC Telstra ROM EXE? (_HTC Desire_RUU_Bravo_Telstra_WWE_1.16.841.1_Radio_32.30.00.28U_4.05.00.11_release_126124_signed.exe)
[Desire Android Development] DroidBois:
Got stock UK 2.2 OTA updated AMOLED model with hboot-0.93.0001.. should I wait or go ahead? All I really want is that app2sd+ feature with expanded internal memory although I understand that will tie me to one micro SD card (no more swapping around for me).
[Desire Android Development] ClassicalDonkey:
Does 2.2 not have app2SD already? I thought that was a feature!

Edit:

Sorry you said app2SD+, did not read it right. that is better right?
[Desire Android Development] Pabze:
Hello,

Anyone know an other site for create mtd0.img CID generator ?

ks33673.kimsufi.com/misc/ doesn't work since some day...

Thanks,
[Desire Android Development] Bonobow:
Can anyone help please? I wish it was easy unrooting as rooting wiair unrevoked 3...
[Desire Android Development] ClassicalDonkey:
I would like to know that too! can I just flash this with rooting my desire?

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[Desire Android Development] ste1164:
Is there no stock Orange UK RUU? As I would like to return to the stock Orange ROM.
[Desire Android Development] kebabas:
Hello,

I had SE Xperia X1, but today i bought Desire with SLCD screen.

I want to flash [FroYo Sense] LeeDrOiD V2.1 rom and i'm a little bit confused.

Can someone tell, what i need to do? Some tutorials says that :" DONT USE THIS WITH HBOOT 0.83 or 0.93 SLCD DEVICES!!!

OTHERWISE YOUR PHONE WILL END UP WITH A DEAD SCREEN!"

Thanks!

Edit: Android version 2.2.

maybe need some more info?
[Desire Android Development] ClassicalDonkey:
I removed some apps from the Rom i am using and I now have this on the widget screen. I did it the same way as is said at the start of this.

Does anyone know how to sort this?
[Desire Android Development] BlackBirdf:
Yes, whats the line corresponding to?

And have you already rooted your phone?
[Desire Android Development] kebabas:
I uptaded android to never version via official "settings>update"

That's it. I haven't done anything at all.

"Yes, whats the line corresponding to?" - sorry, don't understood what you mean. :/
[Desire Android Development] karloe:
wrong thread :eek:
[Desire Android Development] BlackBirdf:
I mean which tutorial do you mean, where you found the line you quoted (DONT USE...)?
[Desire Android Development] kebabas:
BlackBirdf: here - http://www.android-tutorials.org/dev/?page_id=78
[Desire Android Development] BlackBirdf:
Ok, there's an other downgardeing guide, try this one:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=768256

"This downgrade has none of these problems, and will work on SLCD and AMOLED phones and ANY version of HBOOT."
[Desire Android Development] kebabas:
Thanks ;)

So i have the last question (probably). Why do i need to downgrade android (to 2.1) in order to get again v2.2? Programing issues or what? Just interested... :)
[Desire Android Development] BlackBirdf:
On page 70 GeoTrail said that it's possible to root 2.2 without downgrading using unrevoked3 (atm not available).

For the new os and bootloader you need a rooting tool that is build for them, and the tool from this guide just got no update for 2.2.
[Desire Android Development] Aprate:
The downgrade/rooting worked like a charm! thanks,, am running "۵.AuraxTSense v7.6.1" on it now, it works way better as the original rom, the original rom randomly ended services, sim access etc. somehow :s
[Desire Android Development] Bonobow:
Please.. I'm stuck..
[Desire Android Development] Bonobow:
Tmobile UK unrooting

I think you should include this link,

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=7897100#post7897100

to help the Tmobile UK peeps. I spent hours trying to figure out how to go back to stock ROM, finally at ease...
[Desire Android Development] kebabas:
Got black screen.... - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=787054
[Desire Android Development] DroidBois:
Ok so I have the AMOLED unbranded / unlocked stock UK 2.2 hboot 0.93 model, I take it I can run Unrevoked3 as hboot downgrade is un-necessary for me, and then go ahead and flash a custom ROM?
[Desire Android Development] GeoTrail:
Yeah, the same phone I have. unrevoked3 worked flawless for me.
[Desire Android Development] DroidBois:
So you did this? http://theunlockr.com/2010/09/20/how-to-root-the-htc-desire-unrevoked-method/

According to this, I can just use Unrevoked3 to root my phone and then go straight to installing custom ROMs, although I have OTA 2.2 with hboot 0.93?

No gold card required?? That's a huge step to skip!
[Desire Android Development] GeoTrail:
Yes, that's the method I used. Download the latest version of Unrevoked here http://unrevoked.com/recovery/
[Desire Android Development] DroidBois:
Did you need to create a gold card? Not that I still understand what they are for.

What ROM did you go for? Once you run Unrevoked3 it was easy to install a ROM?
[Desire Android Development] GeoTrail:
I didn't make a gold card as it's not needed because I don't have a branded phone.

After I rooted the Desire I just installed the ROM manager from the market place and tried a few of the rom's there. I now use the AuraxTSence 7.6.1 Froyo rom. Very happy with. Haven't found anything that doesn't work.
[Desire Android Development] DroidBois:
May I ask why you chose the AuraxTSence 7.6.1? And ROM Manager is an app I can install on my phone that gives heaps of information about ROMs to choose from?

Is there any way to retain user data when switching ROMs or is it like a factory reset and you have to reconfigure your whole phone again?

Have you noticed many improvements?
[Desire Android Development] feueri:
I just installed maps brut, but i started wondering how can i uninstall normal maps ? Thats cause there are double amount of icons now in apps list.. i found out a guide in the maps brut thread about inserting terminal commands but where do i find the terminal ?

edit: found & installed terminal, now stuck with adb trying to uninstall old maps. installed adb but "adb remount" says "not permitted" ??
[Desire Android Development] carlitos081:
Hello, I too am an owner of a HTC desire branded Fastweb with 1.22 build you explain how did you do?

Thanks
[Desire Android Development] ranasrule:
Im a total Andriod noob....just got a Desire today after using different WinMo phones for the last 5 years...just a quick question ...

Which guide should i use "Root guide for users who have unbranded(unlocked) Desire" or "Root guide for users who have branded(locked) Desire"....my Desire has an Orange logo on the back but it is SIM unlocked since I can use different sims on it.....so is my Desire a unbranded(unlocked) Desire or branded(locked) Desire ?:confused:
[Desire Android Development] BlackBirdf:
Don't know why the terms locked and unlocked are still used in this tutorial, but it depends on the branding, so you need to use the branded guide.
[Desire Android Development] ranasrule:
ok I have another noobish question.....i just created a gold card and flashed a clean stock rom....everything went well....my question is that once a card has been made into a gold card does it remain a gold card after flashing a new rom ? what Im trying to ask is do I have to go through the gold card conversion procedure every time or is this just a one time exercise ?

my gold card is now in my phone after flashing the rom....can i just use it as a normal sdcard ?
[Desire Android Development] MasDroid:
Correct... once you create a Gold Card it remains as a Gold Card - you will not be required to re-create one and it is a one time exercise. The Gold Card essentially unlocks your phones CID allowing you can flash custom ROMs.

You can use it as a normal SD Card and you can even partition the very same card for Apps2SD, if necessary.
[Desire Android Development] nibblets:
Firmware- 2.1update1

Baseband- 32.42.00.32U_4.09.00.08

Kernel- 2.6.29

Software- 1.22.61.1

Screen type – SLCD ( I can see some backlight leakage )

Orange branding

I’d like to root my phone so I can use a custom rom, but before I start, I thought I’d just run through what I’m gonna do. Hopefully someone might just spot a potential problem and save me a load of hassle.

1.	I was gonna use this the xda forum thread called "[ROOT] Method for HBOOT 0.83 (SLCD phones)" ( cant post the link! ) method to root it, but not sure which recovery to use ( Clockwork or Amonra ) I guess they are both pretty similar.

2.	I’d like more space for apps and would like to get rid of the Orange branding. I like the Sense UI, and was planning on using on using Pinky’s froyo ROM.

3.	It looks like I also need to flash a new radio ( 5.09.00.20 ). My phone is locked to Orange and I don’t need it to be unlocked, so I shouldn’t have any worries about flashing the radio.

4.	Does it make any difference to the order that I flash the radio and the custom rom?

Thanks for any advice
[Desire Android Development] BlackBirdf:
1. I like Clockwork mod, think it's better known here.

2. Ok, but don't forget the nandroid backup after rooting, very helpful if you get problems like bootloops (you can just load the backup and try to flash the rom once more).

3. It won't be unlocked, the radio is just the software interface for your hardware.

I think the Version is ok, but heard about orange users with problems after flashing a specific radio, but no big danger, it would be easy to fix.

4. Not sure, but if they didn't mention a order in the rom thread, it wouldn't make a big difference (I flashed the rom first).

BlackBirdf
[Desire Android Development] jacques_lem:
The first post says:

"IMPORTANT - this tutorial will not work if you have installed 2.2 OTA update from HTC!"

I have a Desire from Telus, Canada that I upgraded to 2.2 using the WWE RUU. I later got an OTA update for Froyo from HTC so I'm running 2.10,405.2.

My phone is supposedly debranded now and I have a gold Card SD card.

What do I have to do now ? Do I have to downgrade first in order to install the Desire HD flashable Zip ?

BTW, the phone is unlocked.
[Desire Android Development] ranasrule:
probably a stupid question but...how do i check what the version of my bootloader is ?
[Desire Android Development] MasDroid:
To check the bootloader version of your phone, first power it off. Next, hold down the bottom Volume button and press the power button once. Your bootloader version will be shown next to the HBOOT text.
[Desire Android Development] ranasrule:
got it....0.75 is my version....thanks
[Desire Android Development] ranasrule:
can someone please explain to a noob what "fake-flash" is....also is fake-flash required prior to flashing a new rom ?

also once a device has been rooted does it remain unrooted when i install a new rom ? also is it safe to format the goldcard or put in a non-gold card...or is this required to keep the device rooted ?
[Desire Android Development] ranasrule:
is there a guide for configuring my card for Apps2SD from within windows7 ? also once a card has been cofigured for A2SD will a A2SD capable rom automatically install apps to the sdcard ?
[Desire Android Development] ClassicalDonkey:
I found it safer and easier to use above.

U do not need to use fake-flash for flashing a ROM. Once u have done clockwork from Rom manager, u can just place the zip file of the Rom directly on the SD card and flash using recovery.

No need to format, use card as normal, but as above u don't need gold card really once u have flashed.

It will only stay rooted with roms that are rooted, so if u go back to a Rom from ur phone company, it will be de-rooted

Again use Rom manager from the market, make sure u back up anything u want to keep on the card. And once it is set up, if u have a Rom that does a2sd, it will give u chance to have things on the card.

I have only been doing this for about a week, but hope I helped alittle.

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