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[Off-topic] rovex:
Apple devices do what they were able top make work. They have less features than every other device because they couldnt make features work properly. The question is would you rather have no feature or a mostly working but not perfect feature..?

iPhone appeal to a certain type, you can tell those types by the reaction they have to Apple products. They are the OMG NEW IPHONE types. Twitter is full of them. Frankly they can keep their Apple devices if they like them so much, i dont want one or care. The issue i have is the attitude they have that anyone with out one is jealous, poor or stupid. No its quite the reverse.

Ive just got a Dell streak. Someone else at work has an iPad. Guess who gets all the attention after a 5 minute demo.. Its not the iPad. The Streak is only running Android 1.6, with 2.2 it will absolutely KILL.

I had a second hand iPhone for a week. I got extremely bored with it. Yes it has Apps, but the limitations were crippling and it just simply bored me half to death. I sold it on.
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
How do you like that Streak? I wasn't happy that it wasn't getting great reviews.
[Off-topic] rovex:
Its really nice. Reviewers are simple folk, they cant handle something they cant pigeon-hole. It doesnt really matter if its a large phone or a small pad, it works well as either, or both.

Its much less cumbersome than an iPad, less likely to break and can be kept in a pocket. Its smooth, if a little tiny bit laggy in places, but i think its the Android 1.6 launch firmware, it only benches at 4.2 with Linpack compared to the Desires 6.5-7 stock. Ive no doubt it will fly with FroYo, and of course it will have flash, which the iPad will never have.
[Off-topic] SDreamer:
I'm impressed. Why? Because Apple shows that it isn't the first to do these things, but they do it well. A low light camera phone, with pretty above average photo quality is a big thing, also with the nice quality of their 720p recording. Yeah other phones have these things, but I haven't seen anything close to what Apple's samples were, and if the samples hold true to the real world tests, then that's pretty tough. The high res display was awesome, and reminded myself why I like my Touch Pro's display still to today. It isn't innovating, but it builds upon what we have right now, and makes it right. I really love the hardware in this device, but it isn't enough to make me get it. I'll admit the only bias I have against the iPhone is that everyone has it, but that hardware was pretty stellar imo.
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
What is nice about this release is the fact that this SHUT UP everyone talking about a Verizon iPhone. The exclusivity is until 2012. PERIOD. Apple faces a lawsuit if defecting before then and honestly, I don't think they want to anyway. Everyone blames AT&T for the iPhone problems, but everyone fails to realize that Apple CHOSE AT&T and has defended choosing them.

STOP TALKING ABOUT IT!

You heard they were making a CDMA version? Sure. They probably are. Years from now. Or now and it won't be released for years.
[Off-topic] :
Ummm...I've been reading this thread and don't recall reading anything, by anyone here talking about Verizon. So what exactly are you ranting about? We have been mentioning comparisons of iPhone features to that of other phones, along with the quality of said features for the past five pages, but nothing was mentioned at all about a Verizon version.

Maybe you should seek some psychiatric counseling for that frustration, and let the rest of us resume the conversation at hand.

~Jasecloud4
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
Who was talking about this thread? At XDA, we're all smart enough to read on before jumping to conclusions, so I haven't seen anyone here talk about a Verizon iPhone. I was referring to the blogosphere. But thanks for jumping to criticism before I responded with a compliment to you.
[Off-topic] poetryrocksalot:
IMO it's not much better than the iPhone 3GS...

I just like the new look and the camera samples.
[Off-topic] orb3000:
The only good thing about iphoney!!!!!!!!!!!

You can substitute OS with Android!!

Here
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
There really should be a virus constructed that locks an iPhone up with an Android animation. That would be pretty cool.
[Off-topic] androidlicious:
I, too, adore the hardware on the new iPhone. It is very aesthetically appealing with the thin and simplistic design of the phone.

I still think that most Android phones look like toys because of their design and materials. I guess one exception would be the Droid, but its design is too industrial IMO. If there was an Android phone that had better design and hardware, I think it would be very, very successful.
[Off-topic] hungry81:
What is to admire about it? It seems pretty damn average to me. And while this is an improvement from the sub par hardware that apple fans still lap up anyway, it is nothing to admire. Seriously Apple has released a device that is almost on par with current devices. In the next few months it will be sub par. but then thats never stopped apple fans from fawning anyway. Get over it.
[Off-topic] rovex:
I completely disagree. The old iPhone looked like a kids toy, it was horrible. The new one is better, but nowhere near as nice as most HTC androids. To me no apple device is sexy, they are all just plain and dull looking. the HD2, Evo and Dell streak are sexy devices, most of the rest are handsome. Iphone is bottom of that pile, although im not especially impressed with samsungs Styling either and most Motos are a bit ugly, although they have character that the iPhone lacks.

Of course it will sell, Apple devices do because so many are clueless about technology and just want something that works without fuss, but not everyone wants such a device. Ease of use has its undesirable consequences, i think most on this forum realise that and use winmos and Androids because of those consequences.
[Off-topic] THUDUK:
The problem I have is this:

Windows Mobile I miss, Sense UI, collins Bird guide, Memory map that syncs with my PC version and that's it.

I am interested in Android, but OK it has a brilliant UI, doesn't have any decent OSUK mapping software, no decent Bird guide software and the 3D gaming is a bit hit and miss. Like the idea of being connected to google calendars etc...

My Iphone however, has a simple UI, brilliant applications for practically everything, brilliant 3D gaming (actually replaced my PSP and DS) a few OK OSUK mapping applications but not as good as the Windows mobile one, the bird guides are getting a lot better. Brilliant applications for direct sync to Google calendars.

See the Iphone has it all, please convince me that Android can supply the following:

3D gaming

Good Bird Guide

Decent OSUK mapping offline
[Off-topic] Austin021296:
Give it a little time android will catch up
[Off-topic] Zd0s:
android is the top os for most people here (including myself)
[Off-topic] androidlicious:
I was actually talking about aesthetics of the phone rather than the technical specifications... but even so, your comment is really subjective.
[Off-topic] blink41:
Well, my comment will be very subjective.

First, I got a diamond I, and it disappointed me. I have tried some android based phones (samsung, but can't remember the model), and it was pretty much the same. The iphone is something different for me. To be honest, I don't really like apple, but I think this phone is, for my usage, better than the others. It will cost me a lot, but I don't want to make the same mistake again.
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
So how exactly isn't the new version just a revamped kid's toy? :)
[Off-topic] :
At rorytmeadows, I'm sorry if you don't understand. But let me see if I can clarify.

1) This thread for the past several pages has been talking about and comparing iPhone features to options offered by other carriers, along with either the love or hate that goes with it. At which point you posted this

2) To which I then posted a response to your post, querying as to why you were frustrated and stressing the fact that people should stop talking about the Verizon iPhone when no one before you IN THIS THREAD had mentioned it.

3) You then make a mention of the blogosphere, and do not clarify your point at all, simply becoming offended at my remark for you to stop stressing. And end up posting this:

4) Unfortunately you made no mention of the blogosphere in your first post, and as I am NOT a mind reader I had no way of knowing the specific genre of web posting you were talking about in your first post. Therefore, I say again that no one else had written a ranting post about the "Verizon iPhone" and you should probably seek psychiatric help not only for your frustration, but also for your delusions that everyone knows exactly what you are thinking. :p

~Jasecloud4

P.S. Now back to iPhone 4/OS 4
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
I apologize. I simply thought that everyone making serious comments here actually knew what they were talking about. My mistake. I won't assume that again.

I agree, back to the topic at hand. I'll try not to feed the trolls again.
[Off-topic] :
Same here, we all know what happens when you assume.

~Jasecloud4
[Off-topic] protomanez:
Kind of too sick to even look at the the thing. The preview makes it look way more stupid then the last one, I mean seriously the screen just was too bright. I also hate how it's locked to itunes and how people say "Oh just go jailbreak it and it will be better then android". The thing is, they HAVE to depend on these devs to make the iPhone better then an open-source OS like Android. Once we even open the doors further by rooting the device, then bam. Game over for the "Jailbroken" iPhone.

This one just looks like a joke, the mini iPad.
[Off-topic] starkall:
im gonna buy one! LOL my 3gS iphone was the only touch phone screen phone ive had besides the N1 that wasnt all glitchy and chopping and lagged to beat hell! I went through 4 HD2 phones and they were all sacks of **** that was pretty much a fancy paper weight :) I know apple is kinda cheesy and could make the phone alot better but then what would they release next year LOL im gonna buy one though cause i know it will run smooth and crisp like a $500 phone should run ,unlike the HD2. I do miss my N1 though :(
[Off-topic] Brandizle:
Differing Philosophies

The new iPhone 4 seems to still follow the philosophy of form over function and if it continues doing so, there's no future between us. While, many Android phones follows the reverse philosophy.

To me, an iPhone is like a Lotus Elise. It has grade-quality components and it has and does the bare necessity: drive. The aesthetics are one-of-a-kind. Whereas, Android is like a Honda S2000 or Acura NSX. There's several "variations" and customizations due to the wide market. There's more of them and people are generally satisfied with its price range.

I've always been bad at analogies. :p
[Off-topic] nebenezer:
Nearing retirement Storm Trooper Carl reflects on his career with and allegiance to Apple.

He's not happy with his decision but at this point the apple CULTure is so deeply ingrained in his life there really is no longer a decision to make..

It's too late for Carl. Don't be a Carl, excercise your electronic freedom.
[Off-topic] starkall:
I think the iphone runs way smoother than any other phone ive had, and ive had 4 Hd2's, Nexus one, Mytouch, G1, Behold and more. Plus you can jailbreak it and get all the apps you want for free, i actually like having a touch screen phone that responds the first time when you touch the screen and dont look choppy as hell when your scrolling on it, i think all other interfaces that are being used are trying to be like the iphone but can come even close to the Iphones reliablity and smoothness.
[Off-topic] lonelykatana:
Funny, all the people I know have said they think the HD2s screen is just as good/if not better responding than the iphone.

And what are you talking about? wm7 and droid are nothing like iphone OS, you must be insane.

Of course they will have some things the same, because at the end of the day an OS needs to work well.

You could say apple stole from 'dows on the GUI OS for computers....
[Off-topic] lonelykatana:
Infact just GTFO.

Ive looked through all of your 40 or so posts, and in everyone your saying "apple it amazing" "i suck of steve jobs" "Ive had 4 HD2s"

Your a troll.

More to the point, who would by 4 HD2s if they dont like the first one?

Your a retarded troll too.
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
I agree. Apple trolls are the worst.

Please redirect them here: http://forums.macrumors.com/
[Off-topic] PoisonWolf:
That is a good picture. Also, 10 bucks say that iPhone 4 will also have pink hue problems.
[Off-topic] hadi8125:
The iPhone has really become more of a marketing scheme rather than a product that exemplifies technological advancement. Steve Jobs thinks he's "revolutionizing" technology when in reality, he's revolutionizing marketing. He's putting old tech. into his upcoming products and say that they are revolutionary and will "change your life" when we all know they're lies (ie: iPad). The iPhone 4 doesn't do anything that we haven't seen before. Any recent HTC phone has better specs, more capabilities and just does everything better than the iPhone. We as tech savvy people know that. I mean HTC has been in the smartphone market for how long? They were the ones who revolutionized the smartphone. Apple is just getting into the market. IMO Apple is just becoming more of a trend and people are just buying Apple products because other people have them and they want to fit in.
[Off-topic] starkall:
Look at my post again you retarded ****, im not saying apple is amazing, just saying that their Phones Work better than any other phone on the market besides the N1, those two are pretty close! i cant help it i bought four different HD2's and they all were pieces of worthless **** other than taking good pictures and a few other things. HD2= Honda Civic Iphone/ N1= Ferrari!!!! And lonleyKatana= Those pubic hairs you see in the bottom of the urinals!!!! You ****ing retarded ****, its not my fault HTC produced a phone that is garbage and i was dumb enough to try 4 of them, its pretty sad when you have to **** around with the phone for a week to try and get it to operate and function properly. try text messaging when you have 50 or so message conversations going, it just dont work! And i dont give a flying **** who steve Jobs is or what the hell he has to say, all i know is every Iphone ive had has operated smooth and worked like a charm, atleast you can text on it without **** freezing up and inputting letters you didnt even push! Apple may infact be a trend for some people as everything else in the technology world can be as well but as for people like me, i just like there products cause the **** works as it should straight out of the box! Good Day **** suckers that talk **** about me saying im a troll, you should GTFO and expand your horizon a little, some of you talk **** about the iphone but i bet youve never even had one you poor bastards. Im not racist, i do own a color T.V! And im not afraid to try new products that come out just because of the Brand you hateful bastards, Mad becasue Apple Pisses on HTC! Good luck with your HD2 if you have one! Later Gator
[Off-topic] PoisonWolf:
Calm down son. This is an internet forum. Your ego has not been punctured, no one sodomized you, and no one killed your dog. Calm down.
[Off-topic] nebenezer:
Wow, your post is a very compelling case for the iPhone. I think I'll go get two tomorrow...
[Off-topic] DaveShaw:
This threads had a good run, but the last few pages just seem to be the usual flaming, trolling and generally just been mean :(.

@starkall: Please refresh yourself with the forum rules (#2 in particular).

Thread closed.
[HD2 General] sgopshd2:
i have htc hd2 minus main board ebay item number 150452297980
[HD2 General] Henrikliss:
Hello,

Is LCD and screen okay ?

br

Henrik
[HD2 General] DamInc:
Hi all,

Hoping someone can help!

OK, first of all I'll admit quite openly that my knowledge of flashing and so on isn't what you'd call strong so any accusations of being a n00b are warranted and accepted. :)

I got my HD2 in Jan and I'd flashed a few handsets before without issue so flashed the HD2 pretty much straight away and played with some ROM's and so on and settled on one (from memory Dutty ROM) and everything was fine, the phone was stable and everything was good.

Then 2 weeks the handset started acting oddly. I hadn't changed anything (as far as I'm aware) but the phone starting freezing, restarting and so on. I'd have to take the battery out to restart it (and sometimes leaving the battery out for a while before it'd boot up.) When it froze the area around the bottom of the battery would also warm up. I'd also notice that if I tried doing something on the handset it would restart - almost as if I was putting to much "strain" on the handset and it went *bang*. :-)

I decided to hard reset the phone and it went back to original form. Now, I'll again admit this is probably down to my lack of knowledge, I assumed this put the handset back to a factory state but this is probably not the case (it certainly looked like it but some signs suggested it hadn't).

This seemed to improve things a little but the problems just came back. As I'd flashed it and put on the HSPL I thought the warranty was now invalid so thought I'd try and "fix" it myself.

Big mistake. :-)

Or was it? :-)

I think the phone has an issue with power or something like that as it freezes as I've said. And it did this while I was trying to flash a ROM. Panic then set in.

Basically my handset is now in a state where it'll boot into the bootloader (power and Vol down) three colour splash screen and it'll do the white HTC "normal" boot up screen but nothing else.

I can connect to the handset via RUU and I can run:

Task 29

however this doesn't run and finish gracefully most of the time. It'll stick on 99% or 100% or sometimes it'll moan about not being able to do this on this handset.

Any ROM I now try to flash on it using the exe's or RUU (I've not tried them all, granted!) starts and stick at a certain percentage. The Artemis ROM sticks at 12%, Official 1.43 WWE ROM sticks at 0% and Leon ROM sticks at 9%. Eventually they'll time out with an error. Unfortunately I left the handset at work so cannot state which error(s) I get when trying to flash a ROM.

So, after boring the hell out of you, is the handset terminally ill in your opinion? I really do think that there could be a faulty power button/general power issue with the handset (just a feeling I've got) but from my brief reading I'm not 100% sure.

Is there anything I could do? At the moment it's completely unusable so any suggestions on getting it into a working state? Ideally I'd like to get it into a state where I could return it to O2 UK and not have them flag the fact it's been flashed. :-)

Any help gratefully received!
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
can you get into bootloader? if so, check the spl.

if it is 1.42.0000 or 1.66.0000 then the warranty is fine.

if the spl ends .hspl then connect to usb and run hspl 2.

choose whatever was your stock spl (one that ends 0000, 1.42.0000 most likely)

reboot to boot loader, and confirm the spl ends 0000 and you will be fine.
[HD2 General] ilijan:
have same problem!

my hd2 freezed on startup screan, boot screan, sometime donot start - only black screan, after rom flash 99percent or 100percet once freezed when i return stock rom and spl,sometime dont want to boot with 1.42hspl, next time with 1.66, but my experinece is :

1.

-with 2.08hspl allways start

-uninstal your hd2 driver on your computer! restart your computer install after that, with windows update,

-same with bootloader mode, uninsta, driver on your computer,restart your comp, and install it

-turn off your antivirus protector when install any rom, and your run as administrator in windows 7,vista.

2. use other pc if this dont help

3. the problam can be with battery pins under cover.

some people write there with pins problem, they have screaved pins and hd2 dont want boot or start or have same problems

its my secondary problem :D

if u want u can use clasical gum ereaser and lightly clean pins and battery conectors...

its help for better contact

donot take the pins with wet hands!!

its can make litle corosi..

i belive its help to you

sorry for my english
[HD2 General] ilijan:
lol its come to me on twitter

http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=16952
[HD2 General] DamInc:
Samsamuel, you're an utter *star*. :-)

Now back to 1.42.0000. I can blag O2 now if needs be in regards to the handset (tried upgrading to 1.72, USB cable came out, phones shagged, give me a new one, etc) without them getting funny about it if needs be.

Will try upgrading to 1.72 stock O2 ROM and see what happens.

Thanks again Samsamuel, I owe you a pint!
[HD2 General] BroodjeAap:
I have the exact same problem.

The screen freezes for a while, and then the device reboots.

Usually it's stuck on the white (with green "HTC") screen after that, the red text doesn't show up.

If I remove the battery and leave the device alone for a while (cool down?) it boots past the white screen (although it's highly likely that it crashes again when I enter my pin).

At first this was only happening when I was watching some video's with coreplayer, but now it's just happening all the time, even when it's in my pocket.

I just finished flashing a stock rom, but it's even worse now :(

9 out of 10 times it doesn't even make it to the pin screen, and I have spend about 2 minutes total actually in windows mobile.
[HD2 General] Xp3RiM3nT:
Brood, it sounds like your issue is hardware related, I would contact htc too look into getting it repaired.
[HD2 General] DamInc:
Just an update from OP. :)

Thanks for the link ilijan, very interesting.

I spoke to O2 business tech support yesterday and deliberately asked whether anyone else was complaining of this issue. They said no but I'm unsure whether I believe them and whether this was just the corporate line.

After setting my SPL back to 1.42.0000 I tried flashing to 1.72 stock and this did work. Every other ROM I tried wouldn't work. Even with the official ROM it's still freezing/restarting.

Getting a refurb today. :)

Thanks to all that responded/helped. Appreciated. :)
[HD2 General] wangxueqian:
It is really weird. When the battery was low yesterday, I plugged the phone into a wall charger and found that it was not recharged. And then I plugged it into the USB port of my computer, it was not recharged either. The computer also failed to recognize a new device was plugged in.

I tried different computers and different cable. No recharge. No recognition. At first, I thought the battery must be dead. But this cannot explain why the computer did not communicate with the phone. So does it mean the micro-USB port in my HD2 was dead?

The only thing I did recently was to install the latest Chucky Rom. Is it a bug from the rom?

Any help is highly appreciated!!!
[HD2 General] foxhotel8899:
its a cgonfig you can change in the settings menu, start, settings, in my phone then the menu on the lowest level, about the phone, battery, there you can mark if you want to charge while connected to the computer, why its not found, i dont know, but know you can charge :-)
[HD2 General] Foggy79:
The OP mentioned he can't charge when connected to the WALL charger, so changing the "Charge when connected to PC" option wont fix the fact he can't charge it thrue the wall i'm afraid.

You said you installed a new ROM lately? Maybe revert back to the previous rom or a stockrom to test? If this doesn't work theres a big chance your USB port might be broken... (or a defect charger, but since it doesn't get recognised on the PC aswell i'm a bit afraid it might be your USB port on your device)
[HD2 General] veda_sticks:
doesnt sound like a rom issue since charging happens even if the phone is switched off, so its not handled by the rom. could be a repair job... you can get cradles of ebay that have a battery slot for charging spare batterries. That wayt you can flash wait you need cable working to go back to stock spl... doh!