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[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] joshzzz2001:
Thanks again for that reply!

One thing I like to add about CHT is that it has an excellent support for bugs and problems. For this reason, kudos to Cookie and his team! The thread has really gotten humongous but one way or another, they reply to your concerns once you post in their thread and give you some feedback or advice.

Will this be an issue with MaxSense if ever you encounter some bugs/issues in it?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ladieslova:
For now, I too vote for the CHT.

But, you gotta have in mind that MaxSense is only 2 weeks old, and that it will improve more for sure.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Wil Badger:
They are also completely different in what they do. One is a homescreen modifier will the other is a full on new UI. I have stuck to Max's work since MaxManila and have had MaxSense since it was released.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] joshzzz2001:
Yup, MaxSense just came out but I get the impression that widget-wise, it offers more than CHT. One thing that amazes me is the favorite contact widget that you can scroll. Moreover, their widgets seem to offer easier customizations.

But certainly, CHT is still developing and will likewise make more improvements and introduce more features.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] tictac0566:
CHT is available for everybody, MaxSense with WWE ROMs only (as of now).

Furthermore, CHT in the latest version has received a major upgrade in functions, they are both on par in my opinion.

When you love customizing your home tab, I think CHT is stronger - there are many more choices available.

Personally, as I prefer ROMs in my language, and as a Manila "modder" (love all my clocks...), I will stick to CHT definitely.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] joshzzz2001:
I'm not familiar with Max at all as I just got my HD2 recently and had an HTC Polaris before with SPB Mobile Shell.

But I think I get you on this, I think. Am I right in saying that CHT is a Sense mod while MaxSense is not? So, it boils down to if I'm willing to stick with Sense or not? If yes, then CHT, if not, MaxSense?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] hello00:
Motorcycle or Ferrari?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] joshzzz2001:
Which is the motorcycle, which is the Ferrari? :confused:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Franchiselocs:
I'm going to say CHT as well. Personally, I'm using CHT 1.8 and Max Ultimate together, and I must say it's treating me well.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Wil Badger:
As far as I know CHT does not modify the tab structure of manila or really how you get from tab to tab. MaxSense no long has a tab structure so to say. You still have the pages but how you get to them is through widgets or a tabs selection page. There is no longer a slider in MaxSense.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] smeddy:
I've been amazingly impressed with every iteration of CHT - it's amazing on every level and the mod of the year (imo).

MaxSense is an incredible adaption, and I enjoyed it for three days. However because of how new it is there were too many bugs for me to use as a business phone just yet, and I also had issues with the alarm clock not going off, which is not handy during a busy week at work!

But give MaxSense another few months and it has the potential to blow us away! I particularly liked: The scrolling wallpaper (which CHT 1.8 has also introduced), the widget potential, and the Android-y look.

My strategy is to love the pants off CHT for the time being, but try MaxSense every 6 weeks or so to see if/when it steals my heart :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] joshzzz2001:
One question. If you flash to a ROM with MaxSense, can you still run CHT? I know that it's not the case the other way around, i.e. CHT is not compatible with MaxSense. Am I right?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Wil Badger:
no either way.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] aseth:
Cookie Home Tab
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Damitu:
I still think that Cookies home tab is the best! Really, you wait about

a month and a half maybe 2 between updates! It keeps getting better

each time!...I'm still a chicken when it comes to flashing a rom....

Like doing a hard reset...kind of like sticking your sticking your "finger"

in a light socket....you know its going to hurt like #%&@ but, you

have to do it...

Anyway, moving on....

Someday I may use MaxSense so, for now it's a one sided opinion.

COOKIES!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Tech Savy:
Right Now CHT but will Switch to MaxSense

Cookie beats MaxSense for now... Keep in mind that CHT has been out for a while now also.. MaxSense is new UI.. Over time I feel MaxSense will over take CHT.. MaxSense will give you the widget feel like Andriod UI.. With MaxSense you can put widgets anywhere on the screen. With CHT you cannot. MaxSense will give you customization than CHT in the long run... I like the first version of MaxSense, but I'm waiting for it to get to version 2 and beyond, as more development will take place.. MaxSense will only get better in my opinion.... MaxSense is the only thing we have to an Andriod feel... For now I'm using CHT because it's built into my ROM... But down the road I will use MaxSense (more like Andriod feel)........:D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] alvinjue:
The 2 best things out for the HD2 right now is the CHT and I would also recommend any of Energy's roms. I got to admit, I have been flashing roms left and right since the HTC TyTn II and the 2 most consistant roms I always go back even after trying other roms are: Dutty and Energy. They are very reliable, stable, fast and like always, eyecandy friendly :)

The reason why I love CHT is because it has everything you need in one package. It is VERY customizable to fit your needs and also does include some widgets as well as organization methods on top of all the hand gestures :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] malhznoi:
CHT 1.8 is the best :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] alvinjue:
haha heck yeah it is! i`m really loving everything about it so far :)

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[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] divdt:
CHT ------MAX

Let's start a joint adventure....
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Albin0:
I would give my vouch for CHT.Main reason is that you dont have to flash new rom.

The idea should be that smartphone is supposed to save your time not waste it.

I still use stock 1.48 despite the fact that there are better builds.If i start flashing,i get at least 5 new forum threads to follow which will consume another 30 minutes every day.Yes, stock roms are bloated and contain some files that you dont need for sure.But once you start flashing,you will have to chase better roms and better builds.Once you settle with good rom,apps and mods that are cooked in recieve an update and than rom update follows.

Max looks fine from what i have seen on video.But CHT is just lolwtfpawned.Easily customizable,settings can be exported,lng support,everything...plus it runs smooth and works like a charm.So far i didnt find a reason to flash rom because of MAX.

Some people dont mind flashing roms and spend some time on it.I know myself-if i start doing it i just wont stop,will easily get addicted and it will become almost every day activity.Installing roms ,mods and apps will become so much time consuming-im afraid i wont have much time left for enjoying in their features.Plus,it will put me under pressure to always have latest stuff-to the point where i will forget what the basic purpose of smartphone/ppc actually is.

It is also my personal preference-but CHT keeps the Sense flavor,despite so many options for heavy customization.With MAX ,my had2 would look like new phone,with CHT it keeps the Sense and makes it look enhanced but still recognizable.

CHT/CHTEditor fits in that picture just perfectly.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] alvinjue:
Nicely said. I would have to agree with you on that part. Flashing roms are pretty time consuming but its fun :) I admit, for myself, I am pretty big on wanting to upgrade any chance possible but it isnt a must. I usually flash a rom maybe once a month or so when theres a lot of changes on the next update and they are beneficial. Like you said, the phone reacts a lot faster with all the bloatware gone and everything skinned down to only the things you need thus giving you a lot more storage for your own personal data. The benefits about flashing roms on your phone would be getting the most potential out of your phone that you own. For me, how I look at it is, if i went out to buy something, I would love to try and get the most bang for my buck. Knowing that the HD2 is a very powerful device with a very fast processor, I would like to explore as much capability that this phone can do hence why flashing roms to the latest and also trying out new apps/programs. I don`t think that it is too time consuming; I mean you can spend a few hours a day and like you said, probably follow a few threads on here but I don`t really think that it is time wasted. Besides, it just depends on how you make of it; you can just update your phone and read a few comments and be done with for the month. And also by doing so, for me, it keeps me interested in my phone since I tend to lose interest fast on a lot of things and by making the phone faster and faster and putting the best things on it, I can be satisfied with my phone for a longer period of time before even thinking about upgrading or wanting another phone. That's just my 2 cents plus it`s also a blessing to try out all these new programs and roms that people on xda create themselves, who spend endless hours making the finished products. Trust me, you don`t have to immediately go for EVERY new update and keep up, but there are more pros then cons when you just touch up on your phone and providing a better built rom for your phone. It`s kind of like the same concept as keeping an old muscle car and not restoring it and just enjoying the originality of it. But I will go back to topic and talk about the sole purpose of smartphones. Yes, it`s suppose to save you time and not waste it but I think that what it comes down to is sort of like multi-tasking; using the phone for it's basic purpose but on the other hand, customizing and doing other things that are not phone related as a hobby on the side. It's like combining work & fun together in one little nice package :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] joshzzz2001:
thanks for all the feedbacks!

so far, it's CHT although as somebody said, watch out for the potentials of MaxSense.

as i've gathered, people prefer CHT as they are hesitant to flash ROMs like me. but who knows, there may come a time.

anymore inputs on this?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] stianbert:
Maxsense is better than CHT...no more slider for me:-)

Set up your device with Maxsense and S2U2 lockscreen and you will have and ultimate adventure;-)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] joshzzz2001:
i just wish that maxsense can come out in cab form so that i can give it a try. anyways, i'm still having so much fun with cht. i think i'm good at the moment.

btw, no major bugs in maxsense? i've read somebody saying that the current version is loaded with bugs that he's not sold yet with it.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] wez89:
CHT For Me, Excellent Addition To Sense!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Wil Badger:
You won't see MaxSense come out in cab form. It replaces to much and if you were to install it in a cab form it would be buggy also you would have to flash to get it back off. Hence it is cooked in.

As for bugs. I don't know what bugs people are having other then operator error.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] TooHot2Handle:
when u say operator error does that means not having data connection?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ai6908:
Put a poll in the thread...it will be interesting to know...:)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Wil Badger:
No......operator error as in the person who is operating the phone.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] joshzzz2001:
good idea, it's now up. previous posters, please vote.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] joshzzz2001:
got a question for maxsense users. is it true it gives you an android feeling using it?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] hidden_dragon:
Yes and no. It reminds me more of SPB Mobile Shell than Android.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] antoniomistretta:
Could you put a third option?: Nothing!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] joshzzz2001:
i used spb mobile shell too but not anymore with cht. i want to try now android. how i wish i can have another phone!

thanks for the feedback.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] woto:
CHT 1.8 at the moment
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] tomguyz:
CHT is better ..... now with CHT 1.8 ....
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] conantroutman:
CHT for me because I use a stock rom.......

Maxsense does look pretty sweet though........
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] loomx:
Used them both, Cookies is the best, I liked MaxSense, but it just doesnt feel finished and tbh its a little bit uglier.

I found MaxSense required more thinking and fiddling about to get where you want, where as with cookies its easy to set it up to be perfect.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] jubas:
maxsense look cheap

iam prefere cookie home tap, he look more professional .

i hope android or wm7 work on hd2 nearly

probably wm 6.5 is dead
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] joshzzz2001:
that's the reason perhaps why some would wait and see. it just came out recently. maybe, given more time it would be more intuitive to use. who knows?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] joshzzz2001:
since you used maxsense, let me ask you: did it give you the android feeling?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Shum97:
CHT 1.8 all the way....
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] joshzzz2001:
update: CHT-96%, MaxSense-4%

clearly, CHT is dominating!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Shatterv2:
Now let it be heard, this thread is not to discourage MaxSense, but instead to point out key advantages and key disadvantages.

We do hope you build more on Maxsense and bring it up to par with CookiesHomeTab.

Hope to see you higher in the poll,

- Shatterv2 :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Akademist101:
CHT

v1.8 made pretty much the ideals and wishes i hoped would get implemented.

especially my idea (that i put forward ages ago im sure it got lost in posts) about the ability of seeing tasks in the extended space after icons.

the music player widget tasks and apointments aswell as the notifs and toggles made the experience so much better for me. I love sense. and these makes it that much better.

ive seen the maxsense screenshots and for me im happy to use manila than a new ui. it does have its pros with widgets and i feel if CHT gives mroe choice in widget options then it will be perfect for me. CHT makes the homescreen more functional and more integrated to other tabs smoothly and the animation and speed is non lagging (when i had my G1 impacted on scrolling. It reminds me of the goodness of android and for me a few added widget variables makes me have the best of both eexperiences with android and sense.

biased to CHT i know but i am all proo cookie.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] joshzzz2001:
for maxSense users, i'd like to know what keep you from using it instead of cht? and vice versa, for cht users what keep you from not using or, at least, trying maxsense?

for me, as i said, i'm hesitant to try maxsense as i'm not so comfortable flashing to a custom rom.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] joshzzz2001:
i agree with you completely!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Raary101:
Maxsense

I flashed Maxsense onto my HD2 for a short period of time, although it was pretty glitchy, and there was quite a few things that really made me switch back to CHT.

CHT V1.8 really is amazing though, i couldn't ask for anything more :)

I'm sure Maxsense will be good, but like its said earlier, its new, so its got to have to get past the teething problems before it gets really good...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] smeddy:
+1 as well. MaxSense is great and could be awesome....

For me, MaxSense did give me the Android feel, and I loved it enough to stick with it for three days or so.

My only issues, which I know will get cleared up soon, were:

Not enough variety of widgets, and some of them looked a little too basic (e.g. calendar).

Clicking on the quick-links to emails/texts did not always work

If I was going to keep it, I'd have had to spend a while sorting out the QuickLinks as the default page was already full up with stock apps.

Most importantly, i could only add three Quicklinks to the homescreens - the next three would always break (e.g. could not hide text, or icon would vanish).

If I had more time, I'd have become a better tester/reported the bugs/helped out etc., but I'm working on the World Cup so it's a busy time for me! I will definitely check out later builds though.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Shatterv2:
Good comments guys. Lets keep this thread good with just constructive criticism instead of plain out criticizing. :)

All the best Maxsense.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] superpeca:
CHT

CHT because one guy did what a multi billion $$$ company wanted but failed - as HTC promotes - "Make it mine" campaign is exactly what we wanted but they went only half way... With CHT I can REALLY make the phone "mine" and customize the home/lock screen(s) and God only knows how far this concept is going with its customizations. Now we have the best from all worlds - a beautiful interface that took the best from all competitors - multiple screen icon launcher like iPhone's, widgets and multiple screens like Android and the fantastic Manila tabs... I prefer this concept even to upcoming WP7... All in all, CHT is that missing puzzle that made all the difference!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] joshzzz2001:
well said. thanks to cookie and the other developers esp. here in xda for this!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] rayad:
CHT for me, I tried out MaxSense for a couple of days and did like it, just prefer CHT because it really does give me all I need, though watch in a few months when MaxSense takes off and Ill be going omg omg MaxSense ftw :D

Also want to give a shoutout to all developers to these mods, you guys are awesome!! and may MaxSense continue to flourish =]
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] joshzzz2001:
update: CHT - 93%, MaxSense - 7% (up by 1%)

Cookie still dominating.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] zkid2010:
For me it's the current lack of UI consistency with MaxSense that keeps me from using it on my device for longer than 10 min.

Once you get to the lock screen - and several other places I can't remember off the top of my head, MaxSense is gone and you see the actual ROM or Winmo icon-age.

CHT is 'to the bone' for lack of a better phrase.

I'm VERY interested in MaxSense though and given that it's a new project, am totally looking forward to how it matures over time now. It is without a doubt the first winmo rom I've flashed that actually makes my HD2 seem like a REALLY sexy droid phone (like my wife's).

Peace!

Currently: TMOUS @ HD2 running [ROM][WWE][14.06.2010] Miri HD2 WM6.5.X (23569) ROM :: V 17.2 [ONLINE]
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] bignadad:
The thing is CHT is what everyone is used to as i read through all 7 pages of comments..

CHT is a Manila HOME Mod... It manipulates the HOME tab only. it gives multiple screens for the home tab (swiping up/down) but its a HOME TAB MOD.

MaxSense is a Complete Manila Makeover.. Max has altered the manila basically from scratch and has capabilities to do whatever he wants with it basically.. i have been using it since febuary and couldnt see me using anything else. When i first started using it i KNEW i would never go back to conventional manila (CHT)

i tried CHT the other day and i am not bashing it AT ALL.. i thought it was very nice and smooth, but its just a HOME TAB MOD....Still uses conventional manila

I like MaxSense because it keeps the foundation of manila, but puts it in a easy to access EVERYTHING environment.. the tbar/slider/shortcuts are available on ANY tab by just one swipe!

Like i said CHT, being a Home Tab Mod, is what everyone is used to because it resembles conventional Manila 2.5 so much.. MaxSense is a completely new interface and takes a little bit to get use to. BUT its so worth it.. Max has done wonders with it and will continue to optimize and improve as the days go on...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] gwbard:
+1 for MaxSense :D

no doubt about it, co0kie's work is top-notch -- but I agree with big, maxycy's UI goes above & beyond...

sure, it needs a bit of work yet, though I personally am enjoying a refreshing change. (screenshot --here--)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] joshzzz2001:
thanks for this comment! it's a great insight on CHT and maxsense. but that's the beauty of winmo: the options one can take based on one's wants.

i say to both CHT and maxsense: more power, both are great and deserve all praises!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] joshzzz2001:
nice screenshots!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] joshzzz2001:
i'd like to bump this thread now that CHT came out with its 1.8.5 version and maxsense, its 1.03 version.

with these updates, have you changed your mind on which you prefer? any insights on how these 2 mods/ui are developing?

personally, i think CHT 1.8.5 is a great update! lots of fixes and more features are introduced. i especially like that now you can skin the taskbar and the softkey bar and change the font colors.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] chris_ah1:
I think CHT is very compelling and workmanlike, but let's face it maxsense is just interesting and exciting in comparison. perhaps unecessary, but time will tell. I will flash a new rom just to test maxsense for a short while....however, for it to succeed it will have to be installable by cab. flashing a new rom is too drastic for 80%+ of users.

I think CHT really hits the spot for me now with 1.8.5...as 1.7 and 1.8 were not impressive and quite glitchy, even without using the lockscreen.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] joshzzz2001:
yup, that's me.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Rurph:
I respect Max for the work he has done and is doing, but frankly saying I don´t get why would you be tempted to flash a new rom for MaxSense, when you can get the same UI installing Spb Mobile Shell, which is a stable platform with lots of different themes. but I might be wrong in not seeing the difference betweeb MaxSense and Sbp mobile shell.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] CONTACTMC:
CHT for me, only for ease of use + I dont have to flash my phone to get it, simple cab install and it works great, respect due to cookie, it makes my hd2 work as it should have done out of the box.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ai6908:
I guess CHT it is...thanks for the poll...it is interesting!:)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] joshzzz2001:
with the latest updates for the CHT and maxsense, the poll shows 92.5% in favor of CHT. before the updates, CHT used to be 94%. it's pretty much the same, i guess. but this may mean that there's growing interest in maxsense.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] CONTACTMC:
Dont get me wrong, I would love to try MaxSense, they need to make it in cab form for it to take off I recon, lots of people come on here who dont want to flash roms, myself included.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] wolfee:
I REALLY want to try Max Since... I'm not about to flash a new rom to my phone. The main reason is I know, no matter how many times I read the instructions, No matter how well I understand how to do it, I KNOW I will screw it up :mad:

I am not the kind of person that can do something from a set of instructions.. I'm more of a hands on, ask questions, and see it done person. dont give me a book, and expect great results.. lol

So for now it CHT for me.