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[XPERIA X10 General] aqw955:
oh... Looking to get an android phone, so I sell my HD2 before its price rolls down the slope. But now I learn that the Galaxy S, iphone, Motorola Shadow are coming very soon. So should I buy the X10 right now, or just wait until those phones are actually released? I have been using my old old old SE phone for a week now :(:( I maybe able to get a used X10 for $385..

btw, any sign of SE getting their hands on the Android 2.2?
[XPERIA X10 General] Cnrl:
I would say it’s depend of your need and expectation, let me explain.

The hardware is great; don’t listen to people saying the camera and the flash are bad, as long you don’t use the automatic setting your picture wont disappoint you.

Ill say go for it don’t worry, I want to keep this one since I finally found a device I like, blackberry iphone ,htc dream and magic where not my cup of tea. That’s why I fight to get the 2,2 update I want to keep it for at least 2 year and the os update is a good way to make your device fell new again.

BUT I have to admit ,its possible SE do something great with the 2.1 making the device over the edge even with an older version, proof? Check what htc did with the magic the sense ui its still running only 1.5 but defiantly fell like a something totally different.

It’s a great device overall, in my idea a perfect work and multimedia device.
[XPERIA X10 General] rocketpaul:
I sold mine (at a profit) then I ended up buying it again lol, as i couldnt find a suitable replacement. The galaxy S does look good though.
[XPERIA X10 General] brunswick000:
While I do love my X10 im constantly tormented by all the new devices that come out after I just get a new one. Im also the impatient type so waiting for the new ones to come out is next to impossible for me. However, if you think you can wait then id be pretty tempted to get the Samsung Galaxy S. Its a pretty sweet phone if you ask me. However given Samsungs poor rep for continuing support for their devices you'd in a way be taking a similiar gamble with it as you would with the X10. At least it comes loaded with 2.1 which were still waiting for. Wouldn't even bother with the new iPhone. Doesn't tempt me one bit. Streak 5 looks is a tempter though too. It really depends on what you want out of it.
[XPERIA X10 General] Aztriltus:
Currently, Galaxy S is what most people think as the best phone yet. I have tried it and it just feels like iPhone. It's really fluid but I still feel that the X10 has its own personality despite having the standard Home page. I've tried HTC desire and I do not like it's Sense UI. It's subjective btw (:

But in the future, Shadow (or N2?), iPhone 4G will outperform these phones most probably. Just wait a month or two. It isn't that hard (: 4G may be announced tomorrow, but it's Shadow that I'm concerned about or specifically, the Nexus two.

4G vs Shadow (maybe Nexus 2)

No flash vs Flash

Smaller screen vs bigger screen
[XPERIA X10 General] aqw955:
well...

EVO 4G is CDMA, so its not on my list.

Streak is not a phone to me. (8cm wide :o )

Desire/N1/iphone HD, the screen is just too small :D

sigh, think I will just wait for another month or two.
[XPERIA X10 General] lornova:
X10 is not perfect, but I'm not aware of any other phone on the market (or even announced) good enough. So today I would buy the X10 again.
[XPERIA X10 General] aqw955:
hmm... is the 384mb ram sufficient enough?
[XPERIA X10 General] T.W.G:
If you need a phone for making phone calls: DO NOT BUY THE X10!

The in call volume is useless! You can't make calls when you're outside on the street, in a noisy office etc.

UNUSABLE!

I strongly hope that SonyEricsson will fix this very soon!
[XPERIA X10 General] lornova:
I not agree. While the maximum volume is indeed not too high, it is perfectly suitable for using it even in the street or in a noisy office.
[XPERIA X10 General] system02:
I have to agree with t.w.g: The phone is pretty much useless in noisy environments like on a busy street or even in a café!
[XPERIA X10 General] Mano1982:
Yes it's not too hight but listenable in the street. But of course you can have problem with listening call in a too noisy place with any phone :)
[General Questions and Answers] MinisterPhobia:
So, in looking at specs for Android phones, I generally use Wikipedia as a starting point to find out the basics and then look for info from there. I've noticed that frequently, phones will be listed as having GPS, A-GPS, or both in their specs.

I'm wondering what the difference between the two is and what advantage or disadvantages there are to having one, the other, or both in a phone?
[General Questions and Answers] timmymarsh:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS

useful basic info ;)
[General Questions and Answers] MinisterPhobia:
While this info is indeed useful, I have already read it, and it hasn't answered my question, which is why I've posted here looking for further information.
[General Questions and Answers] timmymarsh:
lol fair enough but you haven't asked us what you'd like to know. What do you want to know that isn't in the wiki...............i could waffle on for ages explaining the basic principle, but the wiki explains this and gives links to further reading. Also using the xda google search button at the top of the page will bring up a mass of subjects.
[General Questions and Answers] l3v5y:
A-GPS is generally faster at getting a fix, but you may need to download stuff before hand. It should work fine without, but it'll be as fast as GPS (no faster).

HTC devices often use QuickGPS, which downloads data to make a fix much faster (as in, 5-10 seconds instead of 50-60 seconds).

A-GPS is mostly for marketing, you're unlikely to notice that much of a difference, unless you're constantly switching GPS on and off.
[General Questions and Answers] timmymarsh:
AGPS is only useful if u have a phone signal too :)
[General Questions and Answers] MinisterPhobia:
Now, see, this is the type of information that I'm looking for. Now I know that AGPS is based on the cellular network and that if I go somewhere that there isn't phone signal, I can't continue to use my phone as a GPS tool.
[General Questions and Answers] MinisterPhobia:
I thought I'd already covered this...

Yep, I'm pretty sure that covers the part where I'm asking what the Wiki doesn't cover.

(NOTE: Yes, I'm a smart ass. I know it and run with it. There is no need for anyone to state it here as it would be redundant.)
[General Questions and Answers] timmymarsh:
Lol, far from me to be agreeing with you (on the smart ass thin) but I'm pretty sure the wiki article stated it was based on triangulation and related to the network.......;) unless I subconsciously mind melded with the wiki server ;)
[General Topics] androidlicious:
Since the announcement that Google will no longer sell phones through their web store, do you guys think that plans for future phones coming directly from Google are still in development?

As much as I love the wide range of Android phones available, I still prefer something like the Nexus One and just have a stock phone (without custom UI's and whatnot), but IMO after owning the N1 for a few months, I find the N1 to be a little disappointing compared to what is now and was available, so I am just waiting on the next phone from Google, but that doesn't seem like it will happen now with the closing of the web store...
[XPERIA X10 General] ankur7753:
hey i have a black x10 but i'm regretting buying it,as the white one looks much sexier.........so can i get it changed it to white at the service centers.....?????

plz let me know
[XPERIA X10 General] Bikram:
I am in the same situation, thinking of getting a new body from ebay. They sell this white body for around 35$.

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[XPERIA X10 General] Vin87:
But you won't get a full white phone as the area around the screen is black on your device and that area is actually part of the screen. So you'll get a black and white hybrid/panda/star trooper phone.
[XPERIA X10 General] gr3yh0und:
I got white and I want the black one :(
[XPERIA X10 General] yetep:
Id happily swap my white x10 for a black one but it'd need to be uk and unlocked/locked to orange. And whoever swaps will need to unlock my white one when they get it as its locked to orange atm. Pm me if anyones up for a swap...

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[XPERIA X10 General] rocketpaul:
The black one is much sexier and it does not grab too much attention.
[XPERIA X10 General] Astral07:
can someone find a picture of a black phone using the white body, i'm rather interested in how it looks :)
[XPERIA X10 General] MarylandCookie:
LOVE IT!!! LOL!! :p
[XPERIA X10 General] Vin87:
I actually started calling it Panda. However McKebapp started calling it Star Trooper. He also made this guide which show you how to disassemble and reassemble your X10.
[XPERIA X10 General] damirbusic:
I really LOVE white phones because they look so much cleaner and more expensive and because 99% of all phones are black...I dont want to mess with my warranty but I am sure that I will put white back cover on my black phone, Im sure it will look great :-)

Can someone who has both make some photos of that ? Only put white battery cover on black phone.

Tnx
[XPERIA X10 General] xd4d3v:
www.dealextreme.com has some supposedly original ones.
[XPERIA X10 General] Xstarz:
i have the white one. and woudent trade it for the world for a black one.

whenever i have the choice between black nd white in my cellphone's.

i everytime pick the white one.
[XPERIA X10 General] joefloater:
Yes dealextreme has white full body replacements for $28 with free shipping.

Just go to DX and search xperia x10
[XPERIA X10 General] coop2003:
i just ordered mine last night i will keep posted and let ya'll know when it comes in.
[XPERIA X10 General] damirbusic:
Yes, there are also original housings on ebay.com but no one is selling only back cover, only full sets. Also around 30$...I would pay someone fair amount for white phone :-( I hate black phones...
[XPERIA X10 General] Vilam:
I want the Panda phone <3
[Desire General] yuna75:
Hi, I've a problem when try to open a website link with a colon ":" it won't appear the link. (eg: http://xxxx.xxxx.com:81) This is my first time using Android phone. My previous phone was N97. I didn't have the problem open the link. Any Android pro users know how make the default browser work. Thx. :)
[Desire General] Stafflover:
I don't know the answer to your question, but isn't it easier to just try a different browser? Like Dolphin or Steel or Opera Mini?

Maybe one of those can do what you want
[Desire General] oursoul:
colon and port work on my phone stock browser
[Desire General] yuna75:
Thx Stafflover for your reply. I've opera mini & it works.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] XfrostX:
Any drivers or apps that allow it to work with cyanogen's rom?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] geoffreyz:
Hello sorry for my english, when i put my athena, i have a problem. Windows does'nt recognise my phone "peripherique inconnu". i have tried diverse cable and other pc but the same probleme. I have windows 7. have you drivers for htc x7500?
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] itsthafame:
anybody have the Qik for HTC EVO 4G apk for the evo, the one with the blue icon and it has video chat??? its not in the market anymore...
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] ticklemepinks:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6710910&postcount=9 search, it's everywhere now :-)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] vikeor:
Hi,

My hero used to work great until I got a new router (Netgear WNR2000). Since then, I cant access the Android market and other apps that require net. Are there any ports I should open on the router?

Thanks.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] dully79:
Have you updated the settings on your hero to match your router?

You will find them on the bottom of it(router).

Hope this helps.:)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Yo-Yo:
Try setting the router to g only, rather then g and n. Worked for me.

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[Hero, G2 Touch General] vikeor:
which settings do you mean?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] bluesax:
Does your Hero connect to the router?

If not you may be using the wrong Wi-Fi password (for example that of your former router).

Use a browser and enter the IP 192.168.0.1 for router setup in order to change it.

Also if possible disable Hi-speed Wi-Fi (N).

If your Hero is connected to the router then check ADSL settings - usually bad username/password - (always using the routers web interface) as you may not be connected to the internet.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] dully79:
When i changed my router i had to goto:

menu>settings>wireless networks>wi-fi settings and add the router as a new network.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] vikeor:
Thanks for all the replies.

The thing is, I can check my email, surf the net etc... but none of the Android things work... market, widgets that require internet access
[Hero, G2 Touch General] cbailey:
Sounds like the router is suppressing protocol/socket types, ie, permitting 8080 but not other sockets.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] bluesax:
Also, try turning on DMZ.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] UndeadHamster:
I have exactly the same router and the same problem. My hero works fine with all routers except the one I own.
[G1 Android Development] TheGenesis:
Are there any plans to implement a Button into the App-Manager, to move the Data-Part of an app to the /ext2 Partition ?

Especially on low memory devices (like the G1) this will give us the chance to install a lot of apps without runnung to "low space on device".

I have written a very small bash-script to manually do this job, but it would be more comfortable with a Button.

move.sh

#!/system/bin/sh
#
#data_to_move=com.alk.copilot
#data_to_move=com.camelgames.blowup
#data_to_move=com.drodin.tuxrider
#data_to_move=com.gameloft.android.AMEU.GloftAsphalt5.asphalt5
#data_to_move=com.navigon.navigator
#data_to_move=com.polarbit.ironsightlite
#data_to_move=com.polarbit.ragingthunder
#data_to_move=com.polarbit.rthunder2
#data_to_move=com.polarbit.waveblazerlite
#data_to_move=com.estrongs.android.pop

su
mount -o remount,rw /data
mkdir /sd-ext/data
cd /data/data

echo About to Move ${data_to_move}

cp -r -p ${data_to_move} /sd-ext/data
rm -r -f ${data_to_move}
ln -s /sd-ext/data/${data_to_move} ${data_to_move}

unmove.sh

#!/system/bin/sh
#
#data_to_move=com.alk.copilot
#data_to_move=com.camelgames.blowup
#data_to_move=com.drodin.tuxrider
#data_to_move=com.gameloft.android.AMEU.GloftAsphalt5.asphalt5
#data_to_move=com.navigon.navigator
#data_to_move=com.polarbit.ironsightlite
#data_to_move=com.polarbit.ragingthunder
#data_to_move=com.polarbit.rthunder2
#data_to_move=com.polarbit.waveblazerlite
#data_to_move=com.estrongs.android.pop

su
mount -o remount,rw /data
mkdir /sd-ext/data
cd /data/data

echo About to unMove ${data_to_move}

rm ${data_to_move}
mkdir ${data_to_move}
cp -r -p /sd-ext/data/${data_to_move} ${data_to_move}
[G1 Android Development] kernelzilla:
Apps that need lots of space should use the fat32 partition gracefully, using this hack would considerably slow down your system(even class6). Why double the reads and writes to the slow mmc?
[G1 Android Development] TheGenesis:
Because not all apps using the fat32-Partition.

Navigon for example uses 14 MB of internal storage.

If you install such apps on a G1, you can quickly run out of space.

Low on cache space will considerably slow down the overall system performance.

I would not suggest to move the data of any installed apps, but from the big ones.

Apps like Navigation and 3D-Games are writing not frequently their data and if you own a G1 you are already swapping when using an Eclaid based ROM. So this wouldn't make a big difference in the livetime of your sdcard.

Perhaps someone could implement a partial move (e.g. only libraries) to avoid massive writes to the card ... and/or setting a threshold value, so apps with small data could not be moved.

For me, moving the apps in the Script above has given me additional 35 MB internal space and everything is still runnung "fast".
[G1 Android Development] LucidREM:
/data/data

there is already a script in existance to move things like that:

# lucid -d -sd

would move app data to the sdcard and symlink .. this (however) does not move individual pieces .. i would be interested to know the speed difference on these apps that you moved .. also .. this will create extra difficulty when attempting any nandroid backup/restore .. i have seen people putting up comments because their phone crashed due to the excessive number of symlinks across the phone .. if you are not careful with them you could lose all your data
[G1 Android Development] TheGenesis:
The Space allocated by the "big apps" is mainly used by their ./lib dir. Because of this, it would be enough to move and symlink only those dirs.

With Games the "rest" goes to settings and scores.

On a G1 there is absolutely no difference in speed when moving data to sd.

Perhaps its because the G1 is not the top performer at all :-)

I have played those games in the list with data in internal and on sd-ext and there is no difference in speed ... loading time is also the same.

I'm satisfied with the results, but these scripts didn't remove the data when apps where uninstalled or re-installed and thats the reason of my request.

Take a look on your storage and see how much space (libraries) should be on the sdcard.

du -sk /data/data/* | sort -rn | head

btw ... did you ever enabled JIT on a G1 and played ExZeus or Armageddon Squadron ?

Its amazing what is possible on this "outdated" Hardware!

P.S. Nandroid Backup runs perfectly with this symlinks (no recursive/double Backups)
[G1 Android Development] TheGenesis:
Update:

Nandroid Backup only saves app and app-private ... could you edit this to save everything excluding "crap-dirs" ?

If nandbackup uses standard tar calls, you can use the following command:

tar pcvf /sdcard/nandroid/sd-ext.tar . -C /sd-ext --exclude dalvik-cache --exclude lost+found

... it would save everything the user place on the partition including userinit.sh

Restoring such a tarball works perfectly with nandbackup.

Thx in advance

Thom
[G1 Android Development] zelipukin:
Int. mem for SWAP ?

well, after the moving some heavy apps data

I have 54mb free Int. mem (out of 90)

is that possible to use 24-32mb of this (fast?)memory

for SWAP ? instead of linux swap

and does it make any sense?

...just tried to enable /swapfile.swp via Swapper2

though it says

-creating swap - ok

-changing permission - ok

-formatting swap - ok

but

- enabling swap(file) - FAIL

sorry if it's just another stupid question

G1, stock cm5.0.8 test4, 32mb linux swap
[G1 Android Development] dumfuq:
Have you tried BART? http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=562292

It's included in the recovery, and lets you backup/not_backup whatever you want.
[G1 Android Development] TheGenesis:
It's not a stupid question ... I have had the same Idea yesterday ...

I have googled about life spawn of the internal flash memory, but I haven't found any satisfactory answer yet.

Anywhere here who know how fast the internal flash is ?

What about write cycles and wear levelling ?

If it has no integrated wear levelling, swapping will kill the phone in a few days.

I think your enable swap has failed due to wrong permissions ... try to enable with a defered call in your userinit.

Update: I have checked my filesystem ... /cache has actually 29 MB free ... is it correct, that /cache is only used by OTA updates ? Probably we can create a priorized swap there in addition to ext.
[G1 Android Development] deuse:
Keep up the good work dude...this sounds great :)
[G1 Android Development] kernelzilla:
If navigon is using that much internal storage it's a very poorly written application. Low cache doesn't slow the system down, just apps that require such huge amounts of it.

I'm already swapping when using Eclair? Wrong, using swap on the sdcard is horrible, I'd never recommend it to anyone and I personally don't use it. I have 114 apps installed and my cache is 9% used, it seems to me like your apps aren't clearing their cache correctly, or they're just poorly written. The argument that 'you are already swapping so this wouldn't make a big difference in the livetime of your sdcard' is untrue, you are effectively doubling the amount of read/writes to the mmc, if not more, so the lifetime could potentially be cut in half, of course depending on use.

I'd say nice try, but this really just working around crap apps.
[G1 Android Development] TheGenesis:
I use a 16 GB class 6 SD-Card with static wear-levelling.

Assuming that a standard-flash-nand-cell lasts about 10.000 write cycles, and my swap-write-turnover is currently about 1,6 GB per day, my SD-Card will last about 273 years (minus regular writes).

So I don't care about livetime.

Besides Navigon, there are many apps, that store their huge libraries to /data .... Games in most cases ... If you aren't using "bad written apps" its fine for YOU ... everyone else has to do some tweaks when installing some of them to the limited internal storage.

I have 278 apps installed and the only limit for me, is currently the free space on my sdcard.

If you haven't enabled swap since you have flashed your first Eclair ROM, you have probably never felt what is "speed" or you never need more than 1 app running simultaniously .... or you are using a different phone instead of a G1 :D

You say "swapping to sd is horrible" ... I think you have used the wrong parameters ... when I diable swapping my system is lagging ... even when I work with one app the same time.

Did you enabled compcache while swapping ? Did you use a swapfile on FAT32 ? Is your swappinness levor 50 or above 60 ? Are you using al class 4 or slower sd-card ? Are you running heavy memory consuming apps without killing them from time to time ?

All these can turn a fast swapping system into an unusable phone.

You cannot enable swap and use the system like before.
[G1 Android Development] TheGenesis:
Update:

I have copied 18 MB from cache to data and it tooks round about 18 seconds.

Same file from sdcard (FAT32) to sdcard tooks 6 seconds ...

I will use the sdcard ;)
[G1 Android Development] kernelzilla:
I should have listened to internal voice telling me not to argue with a fool cause people might not know the difference..
[G1 Android Development] zelipukin:
Something strange

I did some stupid (owing to absence of linux knowledge)

experiments regarding to swap_2_/

I believe if it possible it should be done through userinit/config

or smth during boot to enable r/w. give necc permissions etc.

I just used Swapper and RootManager

If I create .swp (it creates but does not work) in any place but /cache

it (just existence of this file) does system unstable, slow and unresponsive

in /cache or any existing or newly created folders inside /cache/ it's OK

before reboot when those new folders/files disappear

=

After a wile something happened with my phone (not a first or last time)

many apps caused FC, settings were lost etc

tried "fix uid missmatches" - dots filled out numerous screens

and after ~20min I decided to reboot

tried nandroid - same endless ....................................................

after the reboot I found no FCs but still missing settings for some apps

(sim_linked_data apps like CoPilot were OK) so I Titaniumed non-working apps

data (5-6 apps) and evrthng seems fine

=

BUT when I look at internal memory available

I find 73Mb (out of ~90) FREE

there was 53Mb free before the accident

Is that normal? And whats the limit?

I have my laps and brain scratched to find some application of this

=

just my experience

-compcache always gives me horrible slow phone - not using

-linux swap - best results compare to no_swap - allways use
[G1 Android Development] TheGenesis:
Some apps are storing many data to /data and sometimes to /cache.

I think your restores have cleared some of them.

Try CacheMate instead of such manouvers ;)
[G1 Android Development] TheGenesis:
I have checked the write throughput using dd:

Internal Storage: 3,5 MB/s

Class 6 SD Card: 7 MB/s

... annoying ... USB to SD-Card is 3,5 MB/s and SD-Card via Card-Reader (PC) is about 9 MB/s.