[Nexus One General] steelbom:
Ah, I enjoy replies! (this post is way to long :/)

Have they said that they don't plan on upgrading or improving their networks? Or is that speculation?

I'm talking about situations where you won't be near the person you're trying to call, and as I said, the cellular network will be supported eventually, when AT&T can handle it, in which case it'll be good to have the ability to call via the cellular network or over WiFi.

Thats not what I refer to when I say junk, those apps are just useless. I'm talking about all those applications that don't work as described, crash a lot. I never mentioned useless apps, both the App Store and Marketplace would have plenty of them.

What's multitasking then? There's no difference between that and what Android does except the battery life and performance benefits.

Very well then, yes you can use widgets.

the article about the speed difference is here: anandtech.com/show/3633/apples-a4-soc-faster-than-snapdragon

(I can't post links, I'm a new user)

What exactly can't iOS 4 do that Android can with neither devices jail breaking? (Aside from things unrelated to the OS, I.E, iOS 4 doesn't tether because AT&T won't allow tethering).

I agree, but photos aren't usually smaller than 960x640, even if they are, you can still zoom in 2x and have the photo look the same as if it was on a 480x320 resolution iPhone.

Ah ok, thats interesting.

Ah ok.

I know it, another poster said the HSDPA speed is the same, just the HSUPA speed is much faster, thats what I meant.

I can't see the problem here, if Apple is really only rejecting the apps that crash, are falsely advertised, and are poorly coded, what's so bad about that?

Obviously some apps that they don't want there will be rejected, like some app that was made a while ago for wireless syncing... but there aren't many of those.

Ok that's good to know, how does an app gain specific permissions or su access?

What are the testing emulations? I was under the impression an app doesn't need to be tested before entering the Marketplace?

Why? Even if none of the negative things applied that I said about Android (which I see some were incorrect), what negative things does the App Store have exactly?

I believe the iPhone 3GS had AGPS. Where exactly did Apple say it was a big deal?

That's fair enough, but in all likeliness, it'll be the same as in the iPad, which has been benchmarked and is faster.

In terms of this Hummingbird CPU, what do you mean by rendering?

I'm not, I've watched the Keynote and seen the difference, also I've watched several reviews of the developers getting their hands on the iPhone 4 at the WWDC event, and all of them said the screen is amazing, and the difference is amazing.

Usage in what regard? When I see "7 hours of talk time on 3G" I think, OK if I had a 7 hour phone call it'd last that long?

Ah thank you, I couldn't find where I'd read the speed improvements, so I couldn't double check.

I suppose your right, I still can't see myself using it anywhere WiFi doesn't exist, but that's just me.

Thats true, I check the comments and ratings of Apps in the App Store anyway, but how many of these apps exist in the Marketplace, the ones that are "bad".

How are iPhone users forced to be limited?

It never really bothered me, although I have iOS 4 on my 3GS at the moment and I do like the backgrounds.

I never said it didn't support HTML5, in fact I figured it would.

Perhaps it does, funnily enough I try to avoid being biased. I do try and learn what I can about a system before I post, often I learn from posting though.

However what you say about multitasking in iOS 4 is wrong, it's not crippled at all, although it may not be true multitasking, why does it matter if it provides the exact same functionality as true multitasking but with better battery life and better performance?

Those 7 types of multitasking APIs cover everything you'd need multitasking for... you won't fall out of those types.

Yes it was, but it was made in April 2010,

This is the article: anandtech.com/show/3633/apples-a4-soc-faster-than-snapdragon

(I can't post links, I'm a new user)

Source?

I believe so, but I may be wrong.