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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] lovingHDTV:
If you can tell/show me how to do this, I'll give it a shot.

dave
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] thx1200:
Open ended

I think this is going to lead to a lot of arguments (SIGH) but I don't think iwfratz's OC app does anything netripper's doesn't. Netripper is just more cautious in describing his OC app because for maximum stability he recommends AC power and 604MHz, but it's been able to run on battery and up into the 800s range for some people for quite some time now. It seems iwfratz's is not universally stable, so there's really no difference IMHO. And by that criteria, I would say Netripper deserves the bounty for being first.

Now, having said that, I don't think either of these are bounty-ready, because both are lacking features and stability. So in my opinion, it's still anybody's money.

I've never benchmarked my TP2, so does anybody have a tool they recommend? We have to independently verify these OC tools to make sure we're getting something out of them. :-)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] iwfratz:
Netripper does not recommend AC power for maximum stability, but just for working. On AC wm powermanager will stop regulating CPU frequency and prevent the CPU from being halted in suspend mode. suspend mode is the reason ending in SOD when above 604Mhz, but neccessary for long battery stand.

netrippers app is what I call a proof-of-concept, which I have running at least since july 1, see post #53.

The goal is a stable, 20% OC (IMHO without disabling suspend mode), no further features. There are no stability problems with my app, but it seems not working on Sprint TP2 (CDMA !?) at the moment as reported by 2 users.

more opinions please !
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] furry:
Add one more Sprint TP2 user to that list. Reboot loop, had to hard reset to fix. Tried twice same end result...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] buru898:
You could have avoided hard reset if you put it on your sd and make a shortcut to the startup from the sd card...

Does no one read???

Anyways, I say us SK Tools for benchmarking :).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] dunebuggydude11:
btw, for those people that are having problems with this new OC tool, he says it is for a tp2 msm7200 processor whereas my Sprint TP2 has the MSM 7600 processor so I'm guessing that CDMA TP2's have the updated processor in them?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] stevedebi:
It runs on my T-Mobile TP2, but I don't really see any improvement. I own SK Tools full version, where would I find benchmarking?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] buru898:
In SK Tools go to Catagory>Information and Benchmark should be there :p.

Hmm, didn't know Sprint TP2's had a different processor? Wonder if it really is "updated" or just different?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] iwfratz:
OCT_V-1.1.cab

I released version 1.1 with following improvements:

- prevent reboot loop

- program files are now in folder "program files\OCT"

- shortcuts are now in folder "start menu\programs\OCT"

- changes for Sprint TP2 (just a educated guess, deeper analysis will follow)

If the Sprint TP2 has another processor (MSM7600) this could be the reason.

Nevertheless can some Sprint TP2 user can try version 1.1, please. I am sure, at least 99% sure, that you dont need to hard reset; maybe (50%) a soft reset.

Download version in post #162: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=7463284&postcount=162
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] stevedebi:
Results from SK Tools:

Item / Stock / Overclock / Change

Integer / 325 / 397.66 / 20%

Floating Point / 7.64 / 9.46 / 24%

RAM Access / 489 / 575 / 18%

Graphics Display / 819 / 950 / 16%

I'd say we have a winner!

At least with my configuration...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] furry:
There is no option to install to \Storage Card\ I recommend that...

So I run version 1.1 and cut/paste OCT folder into \SC\Program Files\ and run the exe from there. I can verify on my device no hang, OC_run and it softreset and booted normally.

HOWEVER running benchmark in SK shows NO CHANGE in any category between OC and normal. Is there supposed to be any OC running process in processes? There is none.

I can verify Processor is MSM7600 in Sprint CDMA TP2
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] 5318008:
I agree with these:

If you can make it work with the CDMA Rhodium, it'd appear you've beaten NetRipper to the finish line, as the original bounty requirement was just for the Rhodium and not all the other phones listed for NetRipper's.

I'm sure most would say he was first out with a working OC, but it won't do 20-percent OC without either SOD issues or requiring third-party workarounds.

I'm running yours on both my T-Mobile Rhodiums with no issues. (Wife's has branded 1.9x ROM with Sense 2.1x, mine has unbranded WWE 2.07.x with Sense 2.5.x.)

For desired features, I'd like to see a nice GUI, an auto-detect safe-mode fallback, and more (higher!!!) speed settings available. Both my Rhodiums run at 768MHz with NetRipper's, I'd like to do the same with yours.

Note to everyone else: I'm not hating on NetRipper, I love his program, I think it's awesome, and I appreciate the tons of work he and everyone else have put into it. This one might be done first is all I'm saying here.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] stevedebi:
I saw the process running with version 1.0. I just installed 1.1, haven't checked that yet.

EDIT: Just checked with 1.1. Slightly faster than 1.0 on Integer, Ram, and GDI (only a few points). Same score on Floating Point.

Note that I put the OC shortcut in the startup and rebooted, this may affect something or other.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] buru898:
Then I would say your cpu isn't overclocked lol. There's a big difference with all benchmarks from not overclocked to overclocked, even Sense is noticeably faster, as is rotating the screen and opening programs.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] iwfratz:
ok. So the device did a softreset by its own ?

Thats no normal behavior, so it still not working on MSM7600 for now.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] furry:
Yes soft reset by the app however when back up no change in process or CPU.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] stevedebi:
I think he meant that after HE rebooted, the device did not continue to reboot by itself.

The OC works on the T-Mobile hardware.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] stevedebi:
Oh, I see. You are not running the program.

The application does NOT put the OC program in the startup folder. You have to do that manually. Or you can just click on the program icon. There is an OC folder in the start menu that has "Start" and "Stop". Copy the "start" icon to the \Windows\Startup folder and reboot.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] 5318008:
I recommend against this in your situation. If running the shortcut in the Start Menu immediately reboots your phone, putting the shortcut into your Startup Folder will stick you into an infinite reboot loop, as evidenced by one or two other posters with CDMA Rhodiums that got stuck like this.

Here's some advice I gave a page or two ago:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] stevedebi:
Ummm, OK. I had previously tested mine by clicking on the icon. But in any case when I first started I had a full backup and was prepared for a hard reset.

FWIW, my phone has SPB Pocket Plus, which automatically offers to boot the phone into safe mode (doesn't load drivers) if it is rebooted within three minutes. Another program I recommend...

If one is working with early stage applications, it is wise to keep a current backup.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] lovingHDTV:
Actually my Sprint reboot cycle happened and I did not copy anything into the Startup folder, I just clicked on the program. I did not copy because if something went wrong I didn't want it trying to restart upon reboot. My logic did not translate to what happened though :)

dave
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] stevedebi:
Very odd, I checked the files after install and the shortcut was NOT in the startup folder.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] 5318008:
I guess it works differently than I'd assumed it worked. That's odd behavior. Sorry about going crazy for a second there. I was just worried about people having to hard-reset over something avoidable. I edited my post to tone it down a little but it looks like you guys caught me in quotes anyways. :rolleyes:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] furry:
bottom line, what runs when you press OC_run??

I have no .lnk in the start up folder, putting a .lnk to OC_run causes endless restart.. There is no .exe in OCT folder to place a .lnk to???

What starts when you press OC_run and the phone restarts itself? There is no extra process or extra draw on CPU, how is this running?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] stevedebi:
I should have been more careful in my post, to ensure that the person TRIED it with the icon, THEN put it in startup. I appreciate your wanting to help folks.

My experience with the T-Mobile TP is completely different; no problems at all, it just works. I'm thinking there are different drivers that cause the problems with the CDMA versions.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] stevedebi:
The OCT folder links to the \Program Files\OCT, which has two executable files, one for run and one for stop. The ones in the Start Menu\Programs\OCT are links to these files.

But it is all moot; apparently it still does not work on the CDMA devices.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] nrce00:
My Two Cents

Here is my two cents. I don't pretend to know how the bounty is supposed to work, but is it possible that if enough people like and follow one application and another group of people follow and like the other, can the bounty be split between the two?? If not then here is my two cents for Netripper's application: Despite other peoples problems and complaints, I have been running Netripper's app since July 26 with RoboWang's “Startup” script dated July 27 with absolutely no problems at all at 691.2MHz. I'm running a Tilt2 with Energy's July 24 ROM. I haven't even had to bother keeping up with the different renditions of scripts. With this combination, I boot no problem, open close apps, make and receive calls. Wake it up or let it fall asleep, etc, etc. No SOD's, freezes, hangs, what ever. I check it periodically for peace of mind and every time Msm7kCPUSpeed says 691.2MHz. It really is running at that speed because Manila 2.5 with CHT runs really crisp and smooth. Maybe I'm just lucky. But I'm not changing a thing. Like my Daddy always said: “Don't try to fix what isn't broken.” ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] stevedebi:
Just curious, but isn't "Msm7kCPUSpeed" the application you are using to overclock with? Shouldn't you use a different program to check the speed? I didn't try Netripper's app because I don't want to fool around with any scripts at all.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] blunij:
Then, what would you check your overclock speed with?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] 5318008:
Update on v1.1

When I'd first installed v1.0, I'd moved its Start Menu entries to a subfolder, as I'm a little OCD about organizing my Start Menu; therefore it wasn't able to fully uninstall, as it left the files in the subfolder.

I manually deleted them, soft-resetted, and tried to use the "Remove programs" pane of Settings, but the entry persisted in the list of installed programs. At least one registry entry remained, and would reappear if deleted, at HKLM\\SOFTWARE\Apps\iwfratz_etc.

I tried installing v1.1 and got a dialogue for uninstalling the old version first, then a message that my install was unsuccessful. I tried this a couple times. I also tried reinstalling, then uninstalling, v1.0 with identical results.

However, even though my phone reported an unsuccessful install, all the files still appeared to have been installed, and the program seems to run fine regardless.

This is a GSM T-Mobile Rhodium w/ unbranded HTC WWE 2.07 and Sense 2.5.

NetRipper's program gives an accurate reading of current CPU speeds, even if you don't use it to change that speed. You can just open it, look at current speed, then exit, and nothing else will happen.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] manbat:
Verizon..

Verizon..MSM7600...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] stevedebi:
If you check my posts above, I used SK Tools. I checked before and after OC, showing about a 20% increase in benchmark speed.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] stevedebi:
Nevertheless, good form dictates that one should use an independent tool to verify results, rather than having the same tool that overclocks verify itself.

EDIT: Since Msm7kCPUSpeed is made for overclocking, I can't install it when I'm using the other OC program. So I think SK Tools is a pretty good benchmark.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] krwshl:
It is CDMA. Let me know if you have any other questions.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] nrce00:
OK. Got a copy of SKTools Lite and ran the benchmark tests. Here is what it says:

@ (Stock) 528MHz -

Integer = 312.1463

Floating Point = 7.131

RAM access = 606

Draw Bitmaps = 173

@ 691.2MHz -

Integer = 418.1460

Floating Point = 9.555

Ram Access = 785

Draw Bitmaps = 220
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Alcibiade:
Completely agreed. Besides NetRipper's app needs either the scripts or the second application to run properly

That said... on TP2 it does work without any AC plugged in (It's on other devices there is an issue)

Btw when do you release a "flexible" version of your app where we can decide the level of oc ? And even better: dynamic overclocking "a la" No2Chem ? :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] buru898:
Actually, if you just install the SetCpuSpeed V1.0d, you don't need to install NetRipper's cab ;p.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] 5318008:
I just realized, I didn't run the OCT_Stop before trying to uninstall. Though I tried it that way and it still gave the install/uninstall errors.

I have both installed with no problems. I only set one to run at startup though. It's also been noted that NetRipper's is one of the very few tools able to accurately list the speeds of these CPUs. If you don't run a script or move the slider, and just run the program then exit, it doesn't do any clocking. I can understand where you're coming from though.

This was one of my points too. Buru88 points out that there is a sort of one-stop OC solution, SetCpuSpeed V1.0d, but I think it's a bundle of different peoples' components fixed up to run together.

I wonder if putting a link to OCT_Stop in the startup folder would break the reboot loop that OCT_Run causes on some CDMA Rhodiums?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] iwfratz:
did you execute OCT_Stop before uninstalling oder install new version !?

it is neccessary.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Maxx134:
I suggest for the bounty:

I FINISHED version of either app

Full clocking abilities, with more than just one setting, and no SOD).

Compatibility for CDMA.

If confusion arises with 2 or more solutions that fulfill bounty, a discussion to split the bounty may have to be considered..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] 5318008:
I thought of this some time after my initial post, and tried it, but with identical results. I ran OCT_Stop, deleted the Startup shortcut, and soft-reset, but got the same errors when I tried to uninstall/reinstall. It still appears to install all the files and run fine though so It's not really a big issue for me.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] iwfratz:
after a softreset you should run OCT_Stop again.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] misiekthcteam:
Sony Ericsson Xperia X1

ROM- 826x Series ** WM 6.5.3 build [23673]

CPU- 528MHz (standard)

RAM- free memory before run FPSECE= 87MB

FPSECE 0.10 standard configuration (with sound)

fs1= frameskip 1 (in game)

fs2=frameskip 2 (in game)...

fps=frames per secound :-)

*ATV Racers (bin 164MB): menu 21 fps, game- 12-14 fps, fs1- 20-22fps, fs2- 24-26 fps, fs3- 30-32fps: slow

*DragonBall GT- Final Bout (bin 151MB): movie 41-46 fps, menu 21 fps, game 13-16 fps, fs1 20-22 fps, fs2 24-26 fps, fs3 26-33 fps

*Street Fighter EX2 Plus (iso 66MB): menu 18fps, game- 10-11 fps, fs1- 20 fps!, fs2- 24-27 fps, fs3- 30fps

*Battle Hunter (bin 81 MB): menu 20 fps, game 14 fps, fs1 20 fps, fs2 25 fps, fs3 30 fps

CPU: 691 MHz (msm7kcpuspeed v2)

standard config

*ATV Racers: menu- 26 fps, game 16-20 fps, fs1 20-22 fps, fs2 25-27 fps, fs3 30-32 fps

*DragonBall GT- Final Bout: movie 56 FPS!, menu 28 fps, game 18-22 fps, fs1 20-22 fps, fs2 24-26 fps, fs3 30-32.

*Street Fighter EX2 Plus: menu 24 fps, game 12-14 fps, fs1 20-21, fs2 24-26 fps, fs3 28-31 fps

*Battle Hunter: menu 30 fps, game 24 fps

I expect better result.

My X1 on 710MHz run about 5 secounds :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] stevedebi:
OK, that checks with what I got from SK Tools using OC.

Int = 401

FP = 9.46

RAM = 582

GDI = 953

Always good to have an independent check!

But my preference is for OC at this time, because it just RUNS, no scripts or anything. I think it may be using a bit more battery, but that is to be expected.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] 5318008:
Saint Happenin'

Still doesn't work. When I run the OCT_Stop after the second reset, it gives "OCT: error message" with "Could not connect to OCT0: [Yes] [No]" message. Tried Yes and No, neither one would let me fully uninstall from list of installed apps. Also getting same errors when reinstalling. But program still works OK when installed, so it's not much bother.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Alcibiade:
This remains two different applications interacting... I can put you ten softwares in a cab.... This is meaningless

It doesn't matter, I am currently running Netripper's stuff and I am very happy with it
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] IMissPalmOS:
Working just fine for me; very noticeable improvement and thus far totally stable. T-Mobile TP2 with HTC_Europe_1.86.401.0 ROM. I'm quite happy to see this program, and am looking forward to watching it mature.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] momulah:
AT&T Tilt2- Aug 4 NRG 23763 GTX

Radio: 4.48.25.20

Overclocked @ 650 Mhz

Benchmarked SkTools

Integer 408.1024 Moves/25 usec

Floating Point 9.364

Ram Access 656

Draw Bitmaps 209

Main Storage write 2288.27 kb/sec

Main Storage read 6781.46 kb/sec

Storage Card write 4693.66 kb/sec

Storage card read 4860.76 kb/sec
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] iwfratz:
OCT_V-1.2 released

there is a new version of OCT in #162.

@Sprint TP2 users: there are some changes in this version to overcome your problems. I do not have a Sprint TP2, so please could anyone of you test it. Thank you.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] DADDYDC650:
Love your OC program so far. Runs very well on my T-Mobile TP2. Way better than the competition. Any way of being able to go higher than 650 though? I think you are the front runner for the bounty. Keep up the amazing work!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] iwfratz:
cpu speed may set to about 1,2 GHz, but I keep this for later ;)

next step will be dynamic clocking and the interface for user made GUI.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] buru898:
Haha wow 1.2Ghz? Lol that'd be amazing if the phone could handle it! Yeah it does look as if you're in the lead ;p.

I would so be down to Photoshopping a neat-looking GUI when you release it. Awesome man I wish I had money to donate to you.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] IMissPalmOS:
I just donated some $, and will continue to do so as the program becomes worth more to me. I encourage others to do the same, regardless of any bounty. I like the direction this program is going...

Go on people, kick in a few bucks...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] evolupt:
Thanks for this release, I test it on my topaz, work fine !

but speed is not set after a soft reset, i have to use OCT_gui to set speed...

I have create a link in windows/startup, but it don't work any more
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] IMissPalmOS:
Just noticed the same thing as the poster above me... Putting a link to OTCRun in the startup no longer sets the CPU speed to its last state. You have to launch the GUI and set the speed. Please return the ability to launch the program and automatically set the CPU speed at startup. Thanks!

Edit: Spoke to soon. After playing with it and rebooting a few times, the CPU speed now *does* set automatically at startup. Not sure what happened...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] ACoolGuy:
I have installed the Cab on my Sprint TP2 running NRG rom and upon setting the clock speed to ANY frequency I am getting a reboot 1 second after toggling the OC status. I am using v1.2.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] 5318008:
More install/uninstall problems

I'm unable to install this version at all. I ran OCT_Stop.exe, deleted my shortcut from \Startup\ and soft-reset. I ran the new cab, and there's no "uninstall old version" prompt, it just goes straight to "install unsuccessful." This is after I've tried clearing OCT out of HKLM\\Security\Shell\StartInfo\Start\, HKLM\\Drivers\BuiltIn\, and \Program Files\ and also after I've deleted OCT.dll out of my \Windows\ folder. OCT still refuses to disappear from my list of installed programs, and HLKM\\Drivers\BuiltIn\OCT refuses to disappear from my registry, even though there's nothing in it.

EDIT: OK, never mind that. While I still can't remove the one registry entry, and it won't disappear from the list of installed programs, I was able to install v1.2 after a couple extra reboots. :confused:

Yeah, I was wondering the same thing. He says he uses a different technical approach than NetRipper's so I'm wondering if the max CPU speed on the same phone will be different with the two apps. NetRipper's will get my two T-Mobile Rhodiums (different stock ROMs, different WM6 versions, different Sense versions) both will only go to 768 stable. I'm envious of people that have theirs running at over 800, and I'd love to be able to do the same stably. Time will tell huh?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] oruam57:
Installed on my Topaz.

The frequency steps are the same of the NetRipper's tool and everything seems ok (no freezes or SODs) util 633 MHz. At 652 MHz the phone freezes in a few minutes as it did with NetRipper's tool, so it seems the two tools are more or less equivalent.

If iwfratz add a good dynamic clock feature (and maybe underclock on screen off) I suppose we have a winner!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] furry:
Yes same here, installed to sd card fine. OC_GUI comes up fine, can set to any speed. the app sooft resets but doesnt update clock speed. It appears still not operating on Sprint CDMA TP2..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] 5318008:
Yeah... hm. I noticed that too. I wonder if they ended up finding the same path to OC or not?

FWIW, some of the users over in NetRipper's app's thread have found a successful underclock, it's in the 300-something range, though it seems nobody's actually sure if it's sticking to that speed or not once the phone's asleep, or whether there are any battery-life gains to be had through underclock.

EDIT: Thinking about it after, I realized no, they can't be the same technical approaches, as NetRipper's has SoD issues associated with it, and this one doesn't.

DOUBLE EDIT: Can't wait for v1.3 to let me push that CPU speed slider a little higher. I'm hooked on the 768 I can run with NetRipper's app. ;)