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[Desire Accessories] blablacio:
Here are my latest findings:

I've drained the batteries of the two Desire phones I got on hand and had the external battery fully charged. Then I started charging the first phone as it was turned off. After 2 hours and 34 minutes I got it fully charged and put the second phone. After approximately 1 hour and 45 minutes the external battery was drained. Second phone was charged at 70%.

I took a look at the battery this morning and I was surprised to see that the battery is 15Wh, which means 4Ah * 3.7V = 14.8Wh. 4Ah is the battery capacity - 4000mAh stated on the battery itself and 3.7V is the standard voltage for lithium batteries as far as I know. I was thinking that the 4000mAh capacity is @ 5V output, so it should charge the Desire almost 3 times, but it seems that my calculations were more like wishful thinking.

At the end it seems that this battery should be somewhere around 2400mAh, because one phone at 100% and second at 70% = 170% => 1.7 * 1.4Ah (capacity of Desire's battery) = 2.38Ah.

Any thoughts, any suggestions and recommendations for other batteries are welcome as always :)
[Desire Accessories] bridgstfer:
Anyone seen this one before:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/POWER-JUNKIE-...ories_MobilePhoneChargers&hash=item51934bec5d

The output voltage seems abit high but seems it can charge an iphone. Cant seem to find anything about the manufacturer or its dimensions.

Would be a winner if it could be trusted!
[Desire Accessories] bridgstfer:
thinking of taking a punt on this one (above) depite not knowing the dimensions or output current - what you guys think?
[Desire Accessories] @MARK:
It looks big and heavy and more suited to sticking in your laptop bag than your pocket.
[Desire Accessories] bridgstfer:
OK ive taken a punt on the 5000mah one as I figure its perfect for taking on holiday and charging 2 phones. I have a spare battery in my wallet for on the move power.

Will see if it charges at > 500mah and if not maybe I can mock up a cable to plug into both ports?

Will post photos/experiences when it arrives
[Desire Accessories] bridgstfer:
OK arrived today so gotta give the ebay seller credit.

See pic - states on the box it charges at 700mah with a capacity of 5000mah so thats pretty good. Also says it can charge an iphone 4.5 times. Charges off a micro USB so need to carry another cable now which is a shame but at least i dont need another AC adapter.
[Desire Accessories] twe69:
You mean mini usb? Micro is the connection on the desire. Would be good to know your views on it once you have used it a few times like how long does it take to charge the desire.
[Desire Accessories] HorNet505:
how 'bout dynamo charger?

just found that on eBay.

It even works when U are in a cave with no sunlight LOL
[Desire Accessories] HorNet505:
THAT's probably the smartest way. The original HTC battery is small, handy and fits in every pocket. Unless you are not out in the woods thats my solution.

an IF you are in the woods then I suggest a DYNAMO CHARGER ;o) see above
[Desire Accessories] twe69:
My Desire door has started to creak already and only opened it up about 5 times since I bought it 2 weeks ago, is that the same for everyone else?
[Desire Accessories] alex_hk90:
I've only had my Desire for a few days but each time I've had to replace the SIM or memory card I've been a bit afraid of breaking the back case - it doesn't seem well designed for that much use.
[Desire Accessories] twe69:
Yeh have tried to stop myself from opening the back too many times, got a back protector coming which will help but still on original Vodafone ROM, want to wait for official 2.2 to come out before rooting it etc.... Probably need to take battery out at one point to do it.
[Desire Accessories] :
I have bought the Proporta 3400mAh charger. It’s a good, and very well made little gizmo, but what I did not appreciate when I bought it was it’s charging current output of only 700mA.

For it to be practical in charging my Desire, I have to turn the phone off. If I do not, I get an error message from my phone informing me that the charging current is not sufficient to top my battery up. I have a cheap car charger that also has this problem. You really need the full 1 Amp for the Desire.

I think for a charger to be fully considered an EMERGENCY charger, it should be able to allow full use of your phone whilst charging. No good waiting 2 hours with your phone off for it to charge up in an emergency!

I will be sticking the Proporta one on ebay (it will be absolutely fine for charging other less thirsty devices) and going for the slightly more expensive Just Mobile PP-08 Gum Pro 4400mAh charger. It has the full 1000mA output that your mains wall charger has. It will mean I can continue using Google Maps navigation if my battery dies prior to me arriving at my destination. My Desire has a right paddy if I use my 500mA car charger when using navigation. A 1000mA Belkin replacement is in the post.

That white dual output charger rated at 5000mAh, anyone know what it’s charging current is? If that also has the 1000mA output I may swing towards that one.
[Desire Accessories] @MARK:
I have the Mobile Gum One:

Yes it outputs at 1A and the phone reports it as a mains charger. It charges the phone up about an hour without problem even when being used and I can get at least 2 full charges out of it.

Size wise, it drops into my jacket pocket nicely
[Desire Accessories] :
Thanks Mark. Pretty much certain I'll go for this one then. The only thing holding me back now, is some negative reviews I've found (amazon) where 2 people have had problems with the on/off switch. One person says it's so easy to knock to the 'on' position that it's always flat when she comes to use it. The other person said that it has simply packed in after 2 charges.

Have they, in your opinion, been given faulty units, or does this switch seem flimsy to you too? Had any problems with it being unintentioanlly switched on?

Will.
[Desire Accessories] @MARK:
I have just had a play with this to see.

The switch is pretty stiff to be fair and I cannot see how you could accidentally switch it on.

But I suppose if it was in a bag of something, it would be possible but one thing it is not is flimsy in any way.

I have had mine a few weeks now and it works fine so what more can I say but that's what warranties are for. Sometimes, things don't work! Sometimes things break!

I bought mine from Amazon because of their no hassle returns policy.
[Desire Accessories] twe69:
Any of you guys tried the Veho Pebble 5000mah one? Does the Desire recognise it as an AC adaptor due to the higher 950mah and connector?

http://www.play.com/Electronics/Ele...e-Portable-Battery-Power-Back-up/Product.html
[Desire Accessories] :
Good skills twe69. Hadn't spotted this one before. Looks good doesn't it.

My proporta one only outputs 700mA, and the desire considers this AC charging. Guess anything over 500mA would fall under this distinction.

Glad they seem to have dialed back the led brightness. Certain I'd get an extra hours charge out of the proporta if it wasn't for the 5 blue floodlights they put on the front to indicate battery health. The irony.

Thanks for the heads up.
[Desire Accessories] twe69:
Cool might order one, there is a £5 off voucher floating around and add a cheap item to make up the 5p difference to get it above the minimum £30 for free delivery... voucher code is: AWvoucher2010

this is for gizoo.co.uk website, seems to be the cheapest: http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/veho-pebble-portable-battery-29-95-/710565

edit: ordered one from the above with 95p led keyring torch delivered for £30.90 exluding quidco cashback. Will write a little mini review once I get it with photos, so far most users like it....
[Desire Accessories] @MARK:
I have. But I sent it back to Amazon because the measurements on the Amazon website and the manufacturers website were wrong . It was significantly bigger in real life. Amazon now show the real measurements

As to your question, it registered as USB but that in itself is not a problem because at 950mA it will still charge the phone (almost) as quick as a 1A mains charger.
[Desire Accessories] :
If your phone is still saying usb charging, the phone is deliberately only taking 500mA as it thinks its connected to a pc, even tho the pebble is capable of 950mA.

This can be caused by a dodgy cable. I just discovered this after my cheap car charger kept saying usb charging, despite being rated at 1000mA. Your phone will look to see if the data connections (the two center pins) are shorted. If it sees this, it'll draw the full amp. If not, your phone will assume it's connected to a pc and limit its own charging current to 500mA to avoid damage to your motherboard.

Try using a proven data cable between your pebble and phone.

This is an incredible coincidence that you post this, as I only leant this lesson 1 hour ago when my replacement car charger showed up, and it still only said usb charging. I changed the cable and hey presto; AC charging.
[Desire Accessories] @MARK:
I am not convinced on this argument.

The cable I used with the Veho is the same cable I am now using on the Mobile Gum so if your argument were to stand, both would be seen as USB.

Likewise I have a couple of 500mA MAINS chargers and one rated at 750mA and both of these report as USB regardless of cable used.

So I believe the phone decides on the charge type based on the power output alone and not the cable type.
[Desire Accessories] twe69:
I will test mine out once I get it otherwise will send it back and get that Mobile Gum.
[Desire Accessories] bridgstfer:
OK so im sending the power junkie 5000mah back to the guy as it appears to be faulty. Such a shame because its a really nice piece of kit and the double USB sockets were a bonus.

Basically it charges my desire fully once and they fails half way through a second charge dropping from fully bars on the indicator to emtpy. Anyone else get one of these? Im not sure whether to try a replacement or get a refund and try the pebble.

On the chargers I dont think the cable really matters (although you can have chargeonly cables which do not sync) its all about whether the pins are shorted at source on the charger itself. Think about the USB that came with your phone - the cable has all 4 pins open as you can use for sync, its the charger where the difference lies.
[Desire Accessories] twe69:
Found this link for the Veho Pebble, doesn't seem to have 4 pins on it? Might have to send mine back :(
[Desire Accessories] bridgstfer:
I think they are just the pins that hold the plug in - look at any USB plug and you will see the holes - they real pins are on the underside.

So has anyone tried this pebble - is it any good? How many charges?
[Desire Accessories] twe69:
Ah yes, am half asleep today! I have ordered one last week and have gotten a dispatch note, will give feedback in the next day or two, should have it by then.... [Veho Pebble]
[Desire Accessories] :
Yes that photo does not show the actual pins so you should be ok. I'd be amazed if they've not used a standard connection.

Had a bit of a breakthrough last night with my USB/AC charging issue.

Turns out that Belkin had NOT shorted out the data pins on their car charger. I think my tester probes had shorted out on the surrounding metal screen giving me a false reading last time. More careful measurement revealed the truth.

All I had to do to get my car charger (rated at 1000mA) charging my phone in the AC mode, was to carefully open up a spare data cable, and cut into the white and green cables and twist them together at the micro usb end. I left them disconnected at the other end. Works like a charm, just got to make sure I do not use this cable on a PC. Will keep it in my glove box!

If your battery pack is still showing USB charging with your supplied cable, try this trick. It seems not all manufactures fully appreciate how these smart phones control their charge. I suppose they are designed to charge all manner of devices, not just HTC smartphones.

Also, don't forget new batteries (including charger packs) take some time to bed in. Remeber how your Desire battery was when you first got it? Mine would just last 8 hours. It does about 24 hours now. Give it a half dozen charge cycles before expecting to see full performance.

Oh and my Proporta pack (3400mAh) has packed in. :mad:

Only made it to about 8 re-charges of my phone before refusing to charge back up. Will be investing in another one depending on what you guys think about this Pebble.
[Desire Accessories] twe69:
Just checked my order online, it did say stock on order before when I ordered, now it says in stock. My order details say awaiting shipping, so guessing a few more days than I expected to get my Pebble....
[Desire Accessories] twe69:
Found someones mini review on another forum, hope its ok to show you guys the link?

the cable supplied is shorter and the second is that when the phone is on charge using this one the phone says charging via AC where as the HTC cable will say USB

http://androidforums.com/870021-post115.html

And from another of his posts he says he got 5 full charges out of the Veho Pebble, not bad for £30 I would say!

Ok i managed to squeeze another charge out of the pebble that gives a total of 5 just tried charging my ps3 pad with it and it died after 5min but all in all well worth how much i spent.
[Desire Accessories] SpideRMaN-17:
what is the difference between

VCC-A007-PBP - Pebble portable battery pack charger

VCC-A008-PBP-XT - Pebble XT portable battery pack charger ?
[Desire Accessories] @MARK:
Looks like one comes with more connectors than the other

vs
[Desire Accessories] SpideRMaN-17:
Received the Velo Pebble but am a bit disappointed to see that it charges in usb mode. according to specs it should charge in AC Mode with over 700mAh of output current

can any Velo pebble owner check if it charges usb or AC please ?

Thank You !!
[Desire Accessories] @MARK:
I believe that it needs a 1Ah output to be recognised as AC as I actually have a 700aAh mains charger here that is also recognised as USB
[Desire Accessories] SpideRMaN-17:
I think that usb or AC depends if data cables are shorted or not (if shorted, Desire sees it as AC adaptor if not, then Desire uses usb charging)

I have a powermonkey explorer with output lower then pebble (max 700 mAh) and Desire sees it as AC Adaptor charging.
[Desire Accessories] @MARK:
I keep hearing this argument.

By that logic, if I took the cable from a charger that registered as an AC supply and plugged it into the 700mAh one then that too would be seen as AC.

It isn't

Likewise, my emergency charged (Mobile Gum 1000mAh) is seen as AC using the same cable that I use on my 700mAh mains charger that is seen as USB.

I am really not sold on the "shorting of pins" concept here.
[Desire Accessories] SpideRMaN-17:
so, in my case the pebble is not really outputting as stated on it's specs. (950 mAh) cos desire is charging (USB Mode)
[Desire Accessories] @MARK:
Well 950mAh is 50 short of 1000 so that sounds right to me

But in any case

Does it actually matter?

If it is outputting 950mAh, regardless of AC or USB, it's still 950mAh so will charge at the same rate.
[Desire Accessories] SpideRMaN-17:
to be honest, yes it matters.

charging with the pebble takes more time then with the powermonkey or wall charger. (I think that desire limits the charging current when in USB mode not to damage laptop usb's which are max 500mAh)

btw. powermonkey explore is 700mAH MAX OUTPUT . . and it charges in AC mode (so it's 250 mAh less then the pebble)

EDIT:

was testing both powermonkey and pebble with a good quality (nokia) cable

now i used the cable supplied with powermonkey and pebble went to AC charging. then I tested the pebble with the supplied pebble cable and it went to AC charging too

- am very confused at this point cos with the nokia cable powermonkey charges AC, wall charger (htc stock) charges AC and pebble charges USB

- with powermonkey and pebble cables all charge AC

I think that the nokia cable is a full (4) wired cable whilst the pebble and powermonkey cables are 2 wire cables ( + and -) . . but still courious why the nokia cable charges AC with powermonkey and AC Adaptor whilst usb with pebble . . mah.......
[Desire Accessories] harisled:
I bought pebble from amazon, and it states that the output is 750ma!

I used the cable from the HTC car charger and it charges at AC :D

The htc cable does not short the two middle wires, but the htc charger probably does, so that you won't need two different cables one for sync and one for AC charge ;)

I guess your emergency charger (mobile gum) does the same at its usb port.:cool:

The only cable I have found to be "shorting" the middle wires is the official htc car charger one, I have used it on ebay 1000ma chargers, on the original htc charger and it charges at AC mode. On the desktop's usb port it just charges at USB mode and of course the PC is not recognized by the phone and vice-versa (no usb debugging mode notification for example). Thankfully, I haven't fried my PC's usb port yet :)
[Desire Accessories] stu83:
Anyone tried this Solar Panel USB Charger Cell Phone Adapter Blue ES0N? £20 devilered.

Mains and Solar charged.

Supposedly:

Input: AC100V-240V

Output: 5.5V (3.7V 4.2V 5V 9V) 400-800mA

Li-polymer Battery: 2600 mAh
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] bhang:
I bought one from the market, but I dont know if they work on the slide and if so, how do I apply
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] neva dinova:
i dont think ther is a way to select live wallpapers i tried it the other day with a free one and it wouldnt let me select iton the n1 there is a tab that specifally lets you choose a live wallpaper. i think we will have to wait for a cooked rom or some one to pull a live wallpaper apk so that we can run them
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] ratchetrizzo:
I believe live wallpaper does NOT work on the slide.
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] darkfire2040:
no live wallpapers

I read somewhere that because this phone only has 600mhz the prosseser isnt fast enough to support it ... but for normal apps u can throw on whatever u want and the phone stays strong .......but i love this phone :D
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] goodjob:
Live wallpapers aren't compatible for this phone
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] Digitaldreamer7:
Im so glad this phone DOES NOT support live wallpapers. No need for them
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] vdub804:
im pretty sure if the g1 can run live wallpaper the slide can it just hasn't been figured out yet this will likely come possible when root is established.
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] gerelee:
some of the live wallpapers were also running on the TP2 (dual boot with android).
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] neva dinova:
if the moto cliq can run live wallpapers i think we can too heres a vid of the cliq keep in my i think its been sped up

http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2010/06/2-1-without-blur-hits-the-cliq/
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] khtims:
the motorola droid came without the ability for live wallpapers but after their most recent update (two months ago, maybe one month??) they can now support it. doesn't that phone have a 528Mhz? I could be wrong but if that phone can run it I think this phone could too.
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] khtims:
now that root has happened live wallpapers are possible. See the android development threads for that process.
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] grrrizo:
If u rooted ur phone flash eugenes slidemeroot rom it has lwp feature in it.Download adw from market and you'll be able to use it on slide.:D
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] thatguythatdid:
I'm 99.99% sure this will work but I can't test it myself cuz i'm on sprint. Also don't know for sure how you guys flash updates (too much going on) but if anyone wants to try this here is an update.zip to get live wallpapers on the slide. you will have to use a launcher to view them (such as adw launcher). If this works then I'll try to get them to work on sense.

Here
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] zippa71385:
haha, is this guy for real? there is no need for:

1. keyboards

2. touch screens

3. cameras

4. flashes

5. advanced os (osx-android-winmo)

6. bluetooth

7. wifi

8. gps

9. text message capabilities

10. need I go on...

its not that we need any of this on a "phone" its that we want it on our "phone"... Look at the first phones, they did nothing but make calls...

If you root your phone and put the legend rom on your phone youll have a faster os with live wallpaper... others will work with it using like adw, but I think the legend is smoother...
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] junkdruggler:
so i just tried to disable sense defaults

I set adwlauncher as home default and tried to apply a lwp but its a fail

this process worked on my magic with sense... so is it the new sense or something else in the stock ROM?
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] BSDADON:
Stock ROM doesn't support them. You need a rooted build that has added in the support.
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] sultan.of.swing:
Slidemeroot5r1 supports LWP.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Quicksilver4648:
I have never owned a smart phone before the HTC Evo looks very sexy and is calling me. However, if I am going to jump on board to a smart phone then I have a few questions regarding the hacking of the device. Rooting looks very promising but I would simply like more details before I go all the way. If you could please go into the detail with your answers I would greatly appreciate it. A simply "yes" or "no" does really help me much.

1) What is 'root'ing a device. I have read a few how-to articles and seen a few videos but how would you describe it? I know what Jailbreaking is on the iPhone so I would assume it is very similar to that.

2) What are the benefits to rooting the HTC Evo?

I know there is WiFi /USB tethering but I was wondering what else is possible?

3) If I root the Evo will I (can I) still be able to receive over the air updates?

4) Will Sprint be able to tell I have a rooted device? (Aside from increased data usage)

5) Is the entire process of rooting the Evo reversible?

Ex. After rooting and installing a custom ROM can I go back to the original everything?

6) Obvious that as more time elapses better and more simpler means to root will be available, but at this very moment what do you recommend as the best tutorial to rooting an HTC Evo?

7) Probably my biggest concern with the device is OS fragmentation, more specifically I am afraid Sprint and HTC wont support the Evo once they push out Android 2.2. Obviously Google is hard pressed on out-featuring Apple and their new iOS4 so most likely we will see a 2.3 or other by years end or early next year. Is rooting the Evo and manually installing a custom ROM with newer versions of Android possible? Are their any drawbacks, such as incompatibility?

8) I personally really like HTC's Sense UI and if I rooted the device and then installed a custom ROM with FroYo (or other later Android version) will I lose the Sense UI? If I do lose the Sense UI by installing a custom ROM is it possible to get it back?

9) If I root will I be able to display more with the HDMI out? Currently the Evo can only output Gallery in 720p but I was hoping to do more such as the browser, apps such as games, and possibly everything/anything on the screen at any second (such as the home screens).

10) I know this is probably a stupid question, but how active are the developers for these custom ROMs? Can I expect more down the road?