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[XPERIA X10 General] Martin5000:
Have you considered that some people might have bought the phone so early that no reviews (based on non-beta firmware) were present?

I, for one, ordered the phone at a time where only previews af pre-production models existed. I'm fully aware that it's my own fault not being able to wait. BUT, since I paid for the damn thing, I've allowed myself to publicly express my disappointment about SonyEricssons so called flagship model. Currently the X10 is NOT something I'd recommend others to buy, so there's two thins to all the complaining: 1) If the issues aren't pointed out, nothing will be done about them and 2) If potential buyers can only find reviews but no statements from real users, then might make wrong decisions when spending their hard earned cash.

ruskival, are you just feeling sad because someone else talks bad about something you chose to buy so your frinds wont admire you for your incredible ability to spot new wonder gadgets? It's fairly common for kids to put far too much weight on clothes, gadgets and so on when "calculating" the social status of themselfes and others.

If not, then just accept the fact that different people have different needs and requirements to eg. phones. Consider yourself lucky that you like the phone and feel that it's worth the money you paid for it. I wish I had it that way too.

- Martin
[XPERIA X10 General] ruskival:
Martin,

no disrespect to anyone that bought the phone and has actual problems with the phone, but at the same time i cant help but feel that no matter which phone is being reviewed a lot of reviews will say its a great phone otherwise the companies wont get the reviewers the phones to test out pre-production. at the same time every phone out on the market currently and in the past has many many people, actual users of the phones who have something negative or something positive to say. everyones experience is different. also i should have statd when it comes the whingers, i actually did not want to refer to people who were the 1st to buy it, as there were no real change to hear comments for it although why the hell someone buys a phone in the 1st week or 2 of release i dont know because there ae problems with handsets, there are always problems with handsets, i personally always wait and recommend most of my friedns to wait a few weeks after the phone is released so you at least get a better idea of what the phone is like. but thats just me, everyone is different.

and also i dont get people who get a phone after people said they have issues with it and then complain about the same issues, what did they expect?

but as ive said, everyones experience is different, you can get the same phone from the same store and have different issues with it. i symphasize with your predicament of spending a lot of money on a handset which turn out **** to your needs, but theres always hope of ROOT :) :P

either way the main point i was making is that as consumers we expect and deserve, and its our right to get what we paid for and that doesnt happen always.

the thing i dont appreciate is being shows as if im some 16 yr old tart who just wants a shiny new toy to show off to all my friends, if that was the case i would wait a few weeks for the iphone 4g/4hd what eva they going to call it. i get something because thats what i want, thats what i need, not because its gonna make my social status better
[XPERIA X10 General] :
The uploaded picture it's edited in some way. No EXIF data... so I can't check if the bug is present or not. I will belive you.

I'm talking with phone most time on stand by. With 3G active and Google Sync. So no screen affect nor CPU...

Me too :D

+1

For reviews a guy take the phone for one hour as maximun in his hands. I got the phone one month ago. This is not my first smartphone.. so I know what I'm saying :)

This is my last coment about that topic. I'm not lying, I'm not here for that. I'm here to find solutions, but it is impossible until a new firmware is out. Trust me.. one user can be lying, fifty user can be wrong.. but not the case. Here we have a lot of ADVANCED users with issues.

Regards...
[XPERIA X10 General] noblackthunder:
i love this phone. its WAY BETTER THEN THE XPERIA X1 . yea it has some bugd. but se wil fix them. beside fromt that i cant complain. great and fast phone + women magnet XD

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[XPERIA X10 General] Higgins12:
The question is WHEN , as we all know SE the "big" update will be delayed once ... twice ... and so on. I don't really expect the update before the next Year.

Dude i live in Indonesia and it is quiet annoying if every second Bit*h asks you about your Phone , dohhh ... despite the fact that I'm German i use my Phone to call and not to show off. But well in the matter of fact you right in what you saying :cool:

Overall the X10 Softare to me sems still a late Alpha / early Beta. Our X10 could be a real good performer IF we had a better Software and SE wouldn't concentrate on their bulky Timescape.
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/839/dsc0185ke.jpg

Unless the websites I've uploaded to are editing the data themselves.

Also, I used the phone for about 3 or 4 hours before purchasing it. I knew exactly what I was getting. Yay for Docomo setting up trial stores just for checking out the Xperia X10. The Xperia Trial store still exists.
[XPERIA X10 General] :
Thank you for upload it twice. As you can see in the attached picture, the bug is found in your device too. You don't have values in tags 0001 and 0003 (bottom of image). So you don't know if your are at north/south west/east position... so you cannot geolocate the picture with software.

I don't know why Flickr it's working for you, maybe by the lack of those TAG's it assumes that you are in positive lat and lon by default (that is the case for Japan). But not mine case... I am at north that is positive and west that is negative.
[XPERIA X10 General] Mano1982:
I'll see that as my brother has X10 mini & i have X10 :) But point was that Camera of X10 is not that bad. Desire is called "World's best mobile" so i compared camera of Desire & X10 :)
[XPERIA X10 General] Mano1982:
Yes just in night shots or low light ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] Bennachie:
What's the op got against soccer players?

Wh

:rolleyes:
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
Odd. Here it on Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/coollead/4673003201/in/photostream/

The location is actually a little off, but I'm ok with a picture on the internet not being 100% accurate ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] k1sr:
Get an iPhone

See, the one thing I love about crApple fanboys is that no matter how bad their product is, no matter how many functions it's missing, they'll swear black and blue that it's the best product this side of Mars.

but we're not crApple fanboys, are we?
[XPERIA X10 General] Cnrl:
I have to agree on that one, Iphone is the most frustrating piece of hardware ever made. Like everyone I made the jump thinking wow, that thing is amazing, then after a month you realize well…was it worth the money?

It’s a toy, good for game and for people in need of attention, its trendy you see. You look cool with an iphone.

For my mp3, I went back to a good old ipod classic with a 120 gig HD; you should see the look I get when I take that huge thing out, eeew how old is that thing? Really they still sell this piece of junk? It’s great to have a on stop flow of music on the road and a decent battery life!
[XPERIA X10 General] Cnrl:
It seems Japanese carrier treat their customer 10 times better then our US/CAN do, out of curiosity what kind of plan did you get?
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
Unlimited Internet for about $60 US, 50 (yes, fifty) minutes of talk time was $15.

Then, add the price of the phone ($17 a month), and I pay around $95.

In Japan, you have a choice whether to pay for the phone upfront, or over time. Usually, if you pay for the phone over time (2 years), you'll get a discount on the phone itself, and on your service. The Xperia X10 is $400 for upgrading customers, $300 for new customers.
[XPERIA X10 General] :
LOL Ok guy... your phone don't have the geolocate bug... your phone don't have any bug, it's perfect, and it make best blowjobs, sure. Come on.. try with panoramio, google maps or photome or read something about coordinates.

Now I am sure that I am the fool hahahahaha open your eyes 0_0
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
Most UK operators are offering the handset for free when you take a £35 a month contract (£30 on some) for two years. I get unlimited internet unlimited texts and 600 minutes talk time.

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Sent from my X10i
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
You're taking this way too personally, and way too seriously.

It's a cellular telephone, not God.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Crown510:
I've checked some Roms out any that u guys suggest? i mostly listen to music apps and do the FB/messenger deals. I don't care much about nascar app only want springs navi and youtube to work as well. What is NANDROID backup? and how do i do it? all these roms keep saying to do it yet none provide instructions how.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] timmymarsh:
moved to QnA
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] riggsandroid:
Ok.

What ROM?

1.Personally I use Damage Control, but really all the ROMs here are awesome. Damage just put out DC2.09 which includes a revamped music app. Also, Sprint Navi and YouTube work in his builds. It is also a pretty stable ROM, so you could try that.

What is a Nandroid?

2. A nandroid is a system image that is made using the recovery menu that was part of the recovery image flashed during the rooting process. There is a menu for Backup/Restore and then there is a Nandroid option and Nandroid+ext option. The former is if you are not using Apps2SD, and the latter is in case you are using Apps2SD. This nandroid is a full backup copy of all the information from your current ROM. The reason people say to make one before trying anything is to avoid the headaches involved if something goes wrong and you don't have a backup.

HTH, and try to ask any of these questions in the Q&A section of our forum.

Welcome to our wonderful world of customizations.;)
[Nexus One General] latyshev:
Nexus uses AMOLED display where every pixel produces its own brightness. As far as i know, every black pixel is technically an off pixel. So if we used a black-heavy theme, it may significantly reduce display's battery draw. And since display is a major juice sucker, this may improve battery life.

What do you think?
[Nexus One General] earlyberd:
The added contrast certainly would help the display be more visible during the daylight, too. We all know how artists love those bright white and gray gradients that have earned Apple so many UI design awards, but I'd much prefer to extend the lifetime of this gorgeous display as much as possible.
[Nexus One General] ap3604:
I always have a black wallpaper in order to save as much battery as possible.

If I really want a live wallpaper I go with the Starfield one where its black with stars...
[Nexus One General] r45k:
speaking of, is that even in the market anymore?
[Nexus One General] Jack_R1:
Nothing to think, you're right, and personally my theme is close to black.
[Nexus One General] EarthsiegeTA:
I'd kill for a flying toaster live wallpaper. Brings back memories.
[Nexus One General] britoso:
Thanks for spreading the word, but most of the tech people here were already aware of this.
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
Another tip: I have Beautiful Widgets' brightness widget on my homescreen (so it only takes 1x1 icon) and tap it often so it goes to near darkness (11%) when I'm going to use it for a while (indoors). Saves quite a bit of battery.
[Nexus One General] evilkorn:
Pretty dumb idea in my opinion.

33 hours, 30% battery left, factory battery, on froyo. If you want better battery life, a black wallpaper isn't going to help.
[Nexus One General] xXJay_RXx:
yes it is.....
[Nexus One General] Blueman101:
And the hourly Troll award goes to...
[Nexus One General] evilkorn:
You?

10char
[Nexus One General] Blueman101:
wow, real mature

anyway, if infact true black color on the nexus ones screen is the off position then it will save battery. The only thing is, is that it must be 100% true black, dark colors wont do because they still require the same power as many other colors. It has to be true #000000
[Nexus One General] Ersdal:
If you save a dollar a day it adds up.

Everything helps.

Please, can you write this sort of posts elsewhere? Preferably off-topic/nowhere.
[Nexus One General] ahmed4never:
yes yes I've noticed that when I've used the default wallpaper which is fully black with the four colored "X"
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
I thought this was common knowledge. I use black everywhere I possibly can.
[Nexus One General] diversificationied:
It wouldn't fit in anywhere else.

(here have some of my sense of humor, I think I have too much)
[Nexus One General] Shaolin Style:
rofllllllllll

+1
[Nexus One General] r0adki111:
Haha! nice. :p
[Nexus One General] codesplice:
I was wondering how long it would take someone to get along to the joke I had in my head all day :-D

Thank you, good sir!
[Nexus One General] pzumk:
I wasnt aware of it that a black wallpaper really saves energie on AMOLED/OLED screens.

But I did some research and yeah, a black pixel is an off pixel and does not need any energie.

This actually should save ALOT battery.

Thanks!
[Nexus One General] Surin1221:
i do this also... heading outside brightness goes up, going inside brightness goes down.

i think the screen looks fine when its at 11%, i do get wowed when i see it at 100% but as soon as i switch back to 11% after about 10 minutes it seems normal
[Nexus One General] khaytsus:
Okay, so how many of you sit staring at your launcher all day? Seriously. If you're using it as a desk clock in the charger/dock, that's clearly different.

What someone needs to do is write an app which looks at dmesg or kmsg and gathers statistics on the battery usage. I've seen a few which do it in various ways, but none which would allow 'real-time' battery usage monitoring, ie: right now -250mAh (discharging), average -300mAh over last 5 minutes.. If such a program already exists, please tell me. Ideally it would log the data in the background and then we could plunk the phone down in various states and actually determine battery usage in various scenarios.

I do this myself solely based off battery percentages, but of course it takes a lot of data and a lot of time to do it with such fairly high units of measurement (1%), but I can do rough estimates this way.. Certainly better than random guessing. ;)

If someone can point out a program which does what I describe, I'll be happy to do some measurements on my AT&T N1 and report back. Also feel free to suggest what scenarios to test..

Solid white full brightness screen

Solid black screen

Idle on homescreen vs Idle on homescreen + live wallpaper

Phone standby vs Phone off + live wallpaper

Phone standby on 2G vs 3G

Phone downloading (have to be largeish file)

Any other battery usage myths to dispel to add to the list?
[Nexus One General] pfmiller:
False, the power usage is proportional to brightness. That's why turning the screen brightness down saves battery.
[Nexus One General] Blueman101:
True, but its also proportional to the actual color it is displaying in the first place, a very dark green or blue may be very close to (but not pure) black color. Where as pure white no matter the brightness will take up more battery then a darker color.
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
on the web there are actual numbers for certain size amoled screens. from memory, a 2.8 inch amoled screen at pure white pulls 2mA, but the same at all black pulls 0.3mA. its a significant difference.

not to mention with our nexus the white notification bar is burning out our pixels in that location! use black!
[Nexus One General] clickwir:
Until someone actually posts some numbers showing a difference (or lack of), shut up. :-)

It's rude but it's the truth. Unless you can prove it (and it should be quite simple to prove), stop theorizing about it.
[Nexus One General] Blueman101:
There is nothing to prove, plus the previous thread basically proved it. All it takes is some basic intelligence, white light takes more energy then black light and because our phones use batteries (a limited supply of energy) white light will take more battery power then black light. So please stop trolling and actually try adding something to the conversation.
[Nexus One General] khaytsus:
erm.. It'd be awesome if a full bright white AMOLED pulled 2mAh ;) I would HOPE you're not confusing mAh with Ah, as 2Ah is pretty crazy.

This is NOT our screen or size, but probably reasonable information.. 738mW for a pure white screen vs 91mW for a black-background launcher with a few icons on it (iphone launcher?). I dunno how much voltage our screens run on, so don't confuse the two numbers with mAh. But the difference in the two is quite a bit, clearly.

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news...r-oled-no-longer-three-to-five-years-away.ars

If you find anything specific to our screen, that'd be cool, I'll keep looking myself.
[Nexus One General] KristoferP:
Proven

The swedish android blog swedroid proved it in one of their articles on battery time. Unfortunetly its in Swedish, but run it trough google translate and you will get a pretty good idea of what their conclusions are.

Unfortunatly, I'm a new forum user, so i cant post the link to the article. But google "Swedroid batteri tid 2" and you will find it.
[Nexus One General] liam.lah:
If you don't believe that white colour uses a lot more power, try going to fastboot, leave it for 5 minutes and feel how hot your phone has gotten. Compare that to recovery for the same period if you like.
[Nexus One General] jgcaap:
how about on htc magic. what could help improve battery life? one hour and half with 3g on kills almost all battery. would be important to know a good solution.

htc leaves me unhappy because of the hotness amd battery life :/
[Nexus One General] latyshev:
Great article! Thanks

The difference is amazing
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
Must be this one? http://www.swedroid.se/batteritid-del-2-processorbelastning-och-skarmens-ljusstyrka

Translated: http://bit.ly/cv6DwU

I'll quote it here for readability:

Definitely an amazing article.

So there you have it:

A) A black background yields 900+ minutes of battery life. With a white background, this drops to 700 at 0% brightness, or 190-ish at full brightness. That's a pretty significant drop.

B) With a black background, brightness level doesn't even matter as AMOLED is so efficient with black.​

So for maximum battery, use of black themes and low brightness = win. Perhaps that's why Google made most menus in black, eh? :cool:

I hope app authors can take note of this, and Google implements more black elements (ie status bar!!!) in future Android versions (or at least the option of darker themes).
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
you should search the web, there are good articles out there, with real numbers and all, and some wiki articles too.
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
i think the article quoted in mAh, but i dunno, i pulled them from my memory from months ago. so who knows the validity of them. but i remember the ballpark at least.
[Nexus One General] thisguy10:
cool article. i got one quick question that i'll ask here so i dont start a new thread.

to change my notification bar to black instead of white do i need to be rooted? sorry if its a noobish question lol
[Nexus One General] plastix:
Yeah, stop theorising without proof! If only we could have got Einstein, Darwin and Hawking and all those other muppets to stop theorising about ideas that had yet to be proven, the world would be a much better place. Who needs good ideas, when we can wallow in our own blind ignorance.

... and back on topic. Would love it if a future update allowed for the notification bar to be replaced/skinned my market apps, like we can with the launcher, both so we can get a black one for the reasosn mentioned, but also because it just looks nicer ;)
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
talk about timing, just today allaboutsymbian covered this exact issue with real workd numbers and all. blacks absolutely make a difference, a huge difference at that! an all white screen pulls 504 mW, while an all black pulls just 36 mW. read the article if you're interested.

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/item/11637_A_compelling_reason_to_stick_t.php#comm
[Nexus One General] houzuoguo:
I manually made a whole black JPEG file and set it as wallpaper :)
[Nexus One General] khaytsus:
I use the Nexus 'X' wallpaper, it's primarily black, but mostly because I really like it. :)

Again, who stares at their homescreen all day!?
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
I use that wallpaper too, thought I was the only one. It looks awesome and saves battery:-)
[Nexus One General] codesplice:
But a white pixel on low brightness uses less power than a white pixel on maximum brightness, so his statement holds partially true.

Both brightness and color are factors for power consumption on AMOLED screens, whereas brightness is the main factor with traditional LCD displays.
[Nexus One General] pfmiller:
I'm not sure how what I said is only partially true, maybe I wasn't clear enough. When I said the power usage was proportional to the brightness I meant the brightness of each individual pixel. I.e. a very dark pixel will use almost as much power as black and much less then a white pixel.

I think I confused thinks by mentioning the screen brightness setting which for LCDs is separate from the brightness of individual pixels and is indeed the only factor that affects power usage. We were talking about OLEDs however where of course this distinction doesn't exist. Setting the screen brightness lower is equivalent to displaying a darker image.
[Nexus One General] codesplice:
Gotcha. I think you're right about the term "brightness" throwing people (including me) off. If you had said something to the effect of "pixel intensity" or something we may have tracked better :-D
[Nexus One General] pzumk:
Bump :)

/10chars.
[Nexus One General] cheetah2k:
It doesnt matter whether you have black wallpaper or white wallpaper, the same amount of energy is used. There has been a lot of research done on this subject, and in some instances with different lcd screens black actually drew more power.

Do the google search!

So, my advice would be - when you're indoors, turn your brightness down to save battery, or simply use the auto brightness function.
[Nexus One General] jamesyb0i:
Is this true? I thought there were reports saying if google.com was in black the world would save X amount of energy a year or something...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Syp4uzvcSo
[Nexus One General] clickwir:
It depends on the screen. If it's an LCD, color doesn't matter since everything is always on and nothing is off no matter what the color.

If it's a LED backlight, it's possible that the screen may treat blacks as sections it can turn off. But that doesn't mean it absolutely will. It would have to be customized to each screen and would probably not really net you that much savings anyway.
[Nexus One General] pfmiller:
This isn't true at all, you should read the thread before commenting. We are talking about the screen on N1s so LCDs are irrelevant. For OLED the brightness of the displayed image is very relevant to power usage.
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
you didnt seriously post this in this thread, did you? did you even read the thread? we are talking about an AMOLED screen, not an LCD screen. amoled uses way less power to display black colors over white colors.
[Nexus One General] khaytsus:
Hello.. Nexus one forum here. N1 doesn't have an LCD screen.