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[HD2 General] s21s20:
Don't worry about the uneducated response from the users on this forum, you still have a right to have your own opinion even if it differs from their opinion, I will be joining you in July and leaving the HD2 to those who have the time to tinker and play with their mobile just to get it to work, as I work full time and study IT.

I will miss the HD2 lovely screen size but I have an ipad now that serves that purpose whilst at home, the iphone 4 will be used just for its convenience and portability. The iphone is just a better choice for me as I mainly run macs at home and only booted up my window box to flash the latest Artemis ROM.

I originally had the apple 3G, which I gave to my girlfriend when I got the HD2, and I have given WM a good chance. But now that I cannot see any future for 6.5 which has become apparent with the lack of apps and games available.

Everything on my HD2 has been such a chore as I just really only wanted a smartphone for convenience, I loved and missed just synching my 3G once a week with itunes to get my latest podcasts on my phone, currently I have to drag and drop with double twist, which does not sound like much work but when compared with pressing a synch button to get the latest auto-downloaded podcasts it is.

I was hoping to stick with the HD2 and port android until I saw the lack of apps compared to the apple app store, I must admit that the ipad + the iphone 4 has made it an easy decision and enticed me back like the snake charmer that apple is.

People may add that WM is better but as I see it you have the archaic 6.5 that will no longer have the support of the dev community as they have been enticed by WP7, which will be as locked down as apple's iOS4.

But no doubt I will be flamed like you for my choice which is astonishing considering it is suppose to be 2010. Hopefully we will catch up on the whirlpool forum in oz where you are less likely to be treated in this manner for voicing your freedom of choice.
[HD2 General] PoisonWolf:
Amazing how big screens attract users such as the one below.
[HD2 General] AllanJH:
We weren't flaming him for liking the iPhone over the HD2, and you won't be flamed for this either, at least not by me nor the other "uneducated" members.

We "flamed" because he posted it in a forum section devoted to discussing the HD2 saying "HD2 is no good, I'm getting an iPhone," NOT for simply voicing his "freedom of choice." And even that wasn't nearly as obnoxious as your post. :p

Okay, so we flamed a little. I posted some immature comments intended to convey my disagreement in a humorous manner. Is this a crime? It's the internet, buddy. Get used to things being less polite on the internet than face-to-face communication.

Side-note: You're in IT, but you don't like to tinker with tech stuff? I'm working on getting an IT certification pretty much BECAUSE I'm a tech tinkerer. ALSO, you don't have to tinker with the HD2 to get it to work, at least I haven't. I just tinker it to make it work and look EXACTLY like I want it to. It's not a necessity.

Heh, also, if you're soooo busy that you don't have time for an HD2, how do you have time to play around with all the games and apps that you praise the iPhone so highly for having? :p

I leave you with that thought. Do you consider this post "uneducated" and "flaming?"
[HD2 General] kabuk1:
I think people that post these kinds of 'hello iphone!' threads have a subconscious desire to stir up ****, and that pisses people off which is why they get flamed. I'm very active over at PPCGeeks & we get a lot of these types of threads over there. Some tech-tard can't handle having a phone that requires maintenance comparable to a regular computer(via registry cleaners, temp folder purging, etc), so he/she gets pissy & blames the device for being 'buggy, 'outdated', and whatnot. Sorry if this sounds *****y, but it's not the phone, it's you. You just don't know how to work it & don't wanna take the time to learn.

I got my first WM phone back in 05, a ppc6700. I admit- I HATED it, because it was 'complicated' compared to my Treo 650. So I declared it a piece of ****, returned it to the store, and went back to my Treos for 3 more years. I gave WM another try when I bought a Mogul off craigslist in 08, and that time I actually took the time to research the OS, read the forums, and find out all the kickassed things I could do with it. I grew to love it, and haven't looked back since. I cannot IMAGINE not having total freedom to do whatever I want with my phone. I could never deal with an iphone or blackberry because of that. Yes, the new iPhone sure is purty, and that retina display is neat, but no thanks. I shouldn't have to jailbreak it to install non-big-brother-approved apps or change the backgrounds. And I'm too morally opposed to the stranglehold ol' Jobsy exerts over his iProducts to ever buy anything Apple. Any company that tries to tell me what I can do with my devices AFTER I purchase them can go eat a **** as far as I'm concerned.

That is why *I* personally feel the urge to flame people like the OP. It's the same reason I get mad at my mom because she can't drive a stick or bring up the character map in Windows- it's not that she can't learn how, it's that she refuses to learn because it's 'too hard'.

I LIKE that you have to tinker with WM phones. I don't want my device to be set up & all ready to go out of the box. Maybe it's cause I'm one of those people that can't leave anything alone, but I like to uber-personalize everything. I like a clean slate that I can tweak to my heart's content.
[HD2 General] Toss3:
Just get whatever phone you want and leave the childish bickering about which phone is the best to the comment-section of Engadget.

/thread
[HD2 General] OneGoodKnock:
Totally agree. I read in amazement the utter babble that people speak when it comes to threads like this. "I'm going to iPhone" "My HD2 is the best" are examples of this complete tripe. These comments are completely irrelevant at best.

It matters not what phone you have or want in the future, it's horses for courses, there is no value in discussing it with anybody else - there is no need to discuss this, nor any point in doing so.

Right i'm off to find an iphone forum to mention how good my HD2 is, then hopefully I can get into a pointless argument.

Nah I'm not really that would be inane.
[HD2 General] mon_money:
hd2 wins

well guys .. i have hd2 and iphone 3g. i use 90% hd2 coz of features and highly compatibility with my work applications. and i use iphone just for playing games.. datz all..

In my views.. HD2 is a great fone with highly customizable Os Winmo i like all appilications i run on hd2 like cht tcpmp spb tv etc etc and i never had any problem with them. only problem i faced is with sms. and i managed to be with it as this is a best fone i even came across.

I am using Win mo from 2001 and i am just addicted to it.

i am simply an iphone hater along with Nokia(symbian), Samsung( Java and Symbian).. but using them just as an alternative.

so who dont like win-mo dey may Leave this forum.. and who Like CHEERS guys.. this forum is for us..
[HD2 General] jrvenge:
Ya im leaving to, great phone, but just fed of trawling forums to find out where an option is, or find out why its not doing something.

I have always hated apple, but i am now willing to give them a try, in this time of life i dont have time to sit there for hours messing with options to get something to work.

Just get a phone you like.
[HD2 General] Sweep29:
WTF?

I dont believe i've just sat and read this full post. What a lot of immature people we have on this site. A lot of the "senior members" should know better. Get a life and get over someone leaving. I'm looking at the Iphone 4 but you can bet your life I wont let it be know on this site, if I do get one. GROW UP!
[HD2 General] madindehead:
The reason people reply like this, is because he is posting in the HD2 DEVICE FORUMS! Of course people are going to defend their devices. That's like going into a forum only for Manchester United fans and saying they are ****!

We don't really care anymore if you leave. We really don't. Go to your iPhone. It's no great loss to us. These threads are such a waste of space and should really be closed. In fact, can someone please close this waste of space thread right now. We have had far too many "HD2 sux so I leave, iPhone winz so I go there" threads. It really is getting too much.
[HD2 General] AllanJH:
I tried to resist the urge, but this required a lulzy image. :D
[HD2 General] Theguru1:
thanks guys for all your flaming and good lucks and flaming lol etc..

Iphone is a way overpriced phone i admit. If windows had the apps and stability then windows would be a winner no doubt. Also people mention custimization really? if windows mob was stable then it wouldn't be needed! Cooked roms are great but in reality all they are is patches or updates on existing apps, more apps and themes to try and make the system more stable & faster..again it wouldn't be needed if it was stable enough.

alot of people mention iphones closed system Of course there are jailbreaks! which allows you alot of movement & and andriod has been ported over to it on some iphone models.. Doesn't seem so closed now?!?

I really hope windows 7 is a killer... in reality i'm not an apple fan ...ipad and mac seem a waste of time to me..HTC phones are good and i doubt its not there fault the OS has its flaws. Until then iphone 4 is a winner for me..
[HD2 General] argentocruz:
@ Sweep29 & other cry babies

lol... Its just some harmless flaming... get a tissue and can of stfu!
[HD2 General] smeddy:
can't an admin lock this thread? It's gone on long enough with nothing useful said! Good luck iphone switcher! I envy your apps but not your phone :)
[HD2 General] RedScorpion78:
This reminds me in my first year of dentistry, a professor MD started the anatomy lecture by saying "we" dentists who are also called doctors are like chicken, it is a bird but it cannot fly.
[HD2 General] Neville.Holland:
Wow

Wow,

7 Pages in... and still going strong.

I love that people are still devoted to WinMo even given the future of the platform. It feels like WM7 is just the iOS in a different colour - from many sides.

It's a little disappointing that there seems to be a lot of poorly built devices out there. Those given to Noobs are frequently posted about on this site, whilst the experienced users get on a fix the problems.

I receive RSS feeds / e-mail notifications from this forum, and I probably not the first to feel the massive increase since the HDTwo hit the market, it would be nice if there were fewer – “SMS Lag running 1.43.XXX ROM” or “How do set MP3 as a ringtone...”. Some things you will need to learn for yourselves, just like turning the device on (even though this is page one of the user manual). If a user isn’t prepared to wipe his / her own arse, then they should get the iPhone (I understand that it’s good for that), they don’t deserve the excellence of this forum.

Upsetting that there are so many people without the patience to work with WinMo to get it working. I've only been using this platform for 4/5 Years. Nothing has ever worked perfectly, which is why we have XDA Devs. A collection of pure geniuses, that have made and found Mod’s, Tweaks, and applications that have improved the performance of god only knows how many devices.

Good luck with your iPhone
[HD2 General] madindehead:
I have definitely noticed a massive increase in posts from people who can't seem to be able to read the forums/their phones manual/tweak threads to find out how to get the best out of their phone.

Sure, it would be excellent if WinMo was perfect. But it isn't. This is real life. I will defend WinMo and my HD2 for now, but come my next phone, I am moving to Android. I simply see a lot more future there. Sure, WinMo isn't the best looking OS, or the most stable all the time. But it's powerful. And more a device like the HD2 it's ace. Yes, you need to look around a bit for apps, but there are some really excellent apps and mods for our phone. We are very lucky to have such dedicated teams of chefs/modders/testers who work day and night to make our WinMo devices better and better.

However: can a mod please lock this thread. It has gone on long enough.
[HD2 General] raziel123:
Ditto and can a Mod remove all the whinning threads about how "Awesome" the Iphone is going to be and how "Poor" the HT2 is, to a section for whinners, where they write to their hearts content ....

Iphone is very limited in customisation compared to the HD2 ... and the performance is no better either ... amd we don't have to put up with apples monopoly and the need to jailbreak our phones ...

good by and good riddens ...

regards

Raziel
[HD2 General] rumz82:
I think this thread does need to get closed now.......mods?
[HD2 General] aiwama:
Why are people asking this thread to be closed!? Let's talk!

l have an HD2 (my third HTC) and am getting fed up of having to install cabs to make it work properly - as it should have from the beggining. If people here can make it work properly, so can they at the factory. Why don't they? Because they are lazy & take us for granted.

I am going to vote with my feet. lf T-Mobile offers me the alternative of moving to Android or to the iPhone 4 before WP7 comes out l'll say "bye bye HD2". Carry on modifying your HD2's. I understand it gives a lot of you immense pleasure. That is not for me. ls it too much to ask for a stable smartphone? Mr. Ballmer surely thinks so!

It is not going to be easy to give my hard earned £££ to Mr. Jobs; l hate Apple and their North Korean ways of treating their costumers but at least they have proper functioning mobile phones. And, at the moment, they don't come hotter than the iPhone - even though l probably will opt for Android.
[HD2 General] rumz82:
Because now it is going nowhere & quite pointless. The OP has already expressed his feelings along with a few others & now its just dragging......:D There does come time when a thread needs to be closed and i feel this is it!:D

I think thats fair to say..........;)
[HD2 General] appoggio:
Why don't someone just ghe the f**k outta here withouth saying "I'm going, I'm buying a Steve (blow)Jobs' phone for good, I'm gonna lick Steve's ballz"?

Is it too hard to go f**k yourself quietly? Bloody f**king hell!
[HD2 General] rumz82:
Take it easy mate......very emotional!:D
[HD2 General] appoggio:
No, you're pissing us off, so please

Thanks
[HD2 General] aiwama:
Even though l think the initial question was highly provocative (and l agreed with somebody who pointed this out a few pages back) l think it would be a real pitty if people here started behaving like Kim Jong Il and Steve Jobs! I hate them both & anybody who behaves like them! And sincerely hope the Mods do not close this thread.

Stop for a second & think how hard it is for somebody who hates Apple to be forced to say "fair cop guv, they make better smartphones". BTW, l am saying it here and not to my friends' face because l know l would (and will) get a lot of stick from them! I am not even interested in telling them; they will eventually see me with a non-WM phone - hopefully Android and not the iPhone 4! l will probably have a go with WP7, but cannot promise it even to myself.

Control your nasty tempers, behave like adults and not like spoiled prats. We might meet again, as long as l don't have to almost create a new smartphone full of (absolutely wonderful) cabs. I really have to thank the knowledge, time and patience of all the cooks in this forum. l can understand the pleasure they get from it but it is something that doesn't 'contaminate' me.

l just want a mobile that does a lot of things well; at the moment, the HD2 (or any other WM 6.5) it ain't. l'll keep my beloved HD2 though; l don't think, by any means, that it is a useless smartphone but l want more. And because we are not in North Korea l will not allow anybody to try and silence me. Thank goodness for the good sense of the Mods!
[HD2 General] aiwama:
Who are "us"!?
[HD2 General] appoggio:
wich part of "shut the f**k up" isn't clear?
[HD2 General] andyjm:
I got to agree, I thought the phone looked really nice but I'm starving to regret ever getting it. seems to have no future.
[HD2 General] rp-x1:
Most unlike the iPhone which is 'upgraded' every 9 months / year ?
[HD2 General] andyjm:
nothing is compatible with this phone. all the apps are boring. where's tv catch up player? skyfire lags, it worked better on my n96 then on this phone.
[HD2 General] uriah07:
anyone wanna help me with my certificate issue? no matter what i do i still have the issue with them not being signed by a trusted certificate. when i drop a new ROM on there its cool for a few days, then its back to not letting me install apps. anyone ideas? it just doesn't trust the signature, if any is on there at all... is this a fix that htc put out?
[HD2 General] aiwama:
Look, Kim Il Sung, this is not North Korea! l am not going to resort to your type of language because it doesn't make my style or the style of 99.9% of people on this forum. Don't take your frustrations on me! Download another Rom & your mobile will work better - eventually. And now go & wash your mouth with soap, you silly, spoiled, frustrated, absurd dictator. If there's anybody in this planet pushing me to buy anything but another WM smartphone it is you & others like you in this forum! Fortunately the final decision will be mine and only mine.
[HD2 General] rumz82:
U seriously need to grow up! Please dont be so childish ;)
[HD2 General] enyaj:
still no closed?
[HD2 General] avivsworld:
*bang head on wall*

I'm actually in a similar position, but not due to choice - more due to the fact that I just put my hd2 through the wash, and it's not too happy with me. So yeah, new phone time. I'm currently tossing up the Samsung Galaxy S or the iPhone 4 when they're available in Australia.

I could get another hd2, but it just doesn't seem like it's worth it with decent android phones on the market now, and with the iphone actually looking mildly useful.

Any ideas? Thoughts? Suggestions? I spent so long researching phones last time I bought one (4 months ago =/ ) and I don't wanna go through it all over again.
[HD2 General] raziel123:
This section of the forum is devoted to the HTC HD2, not the iphone, so all Iphone lovers find a relevant section, and kindly stop whining ...

I'd like to see someone try and provide the support this forum provided for Windows Mobile phones for Iphone ...

this is a worthless thread and should be closed asap.

Take your rants elsewhere you miserable Iphone Lovers ... lol!
[HD2 General] raziel123:
The Mods must be snoozing ...
[HD2 General] joshkoss:
wow dudes... thread closed.. think enough flaming has gone on

Peace,

Josh
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maxcherry:
Hi,

I've just updated by ROM from the stock 6.1 to the stock 6.5

In the top corner I used to have a button I could press which would show me any apps that were open at the time. It was a quick way to close running programs down.

It looked something like this

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Does anyone know if I can get it back?

Many thanks

Max
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bruce Inman:
WM 6.5 replaced the task manager with the drop down menu.

Solutions are to use the task manager that is attached to the notifications, or install quick menu with its built in task manager.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maxcherry:
Thanks, im gonna do a search for quick menu now.

I've also noticed that the screen where you can Terminate Data Connections/Set Vibrate etc (I used to get this when I held down the Call End button) has now gone.

The device simply locks itself.

I dont know whether its the Facebook intergration or the Sense UI but the device runs VERY slow. Im gonna try the T-Mobile 6.5 rom if thats no better im gonna hopefully go back to the 6.1 version I was using.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bruce Inman:
You can reassign your end call button with Topaz Keyboard Controller.

Are you on the Stock T-Mobile ROM? That may be why its slow.

Sense usually gets faster after first install.
[XPERIA X10 General] saltorio:
Does anyone know of a way to stop PC Companion from displaying the "Phone Detected" window every time I plug my X10 into my PC?

I tether via USB through PdaNet, and thus have to plug my phone into my laptop. But I don't always want to mount my SD card, which seems to be the only way to get the window to permanently close (closing it without the SD card mounted causes it to reappear a minute or so later).

It's quite bothersome.
[XPERIA X10 General] Bennachie:
I'll second that, only state that it is very bothersome.............:cool:
[XPERIA X10 General] lornova:
Yes, I hate it! I'm confident that we will have it fixed along with the Froyo update!
[XPERIA X10 General] Talonnb:
ya know the easiest fix for this is just to right click on the PC Companion software in your taskbar, and click exit. Problem solved since obviously you don't need the software running and it should still have a shortcut in your start menu
[XPERIA X10 General] wrongfeifong:
or you can just block the program completely since it is 100% useless unless you are buying SE apps.

Just keep it in case you need external reset.
[XPERIA X10 General] forzanerazzurri:
I'm sure there are other issues in your life to be worrying about.....
[XPERIA X10 General] Bennachie:
Yes, the screen lock after a call!
[XPERIA X10 General] brunswick000:
Do you think that there may be some sort of auto-run file on the supplied sd card? They did put pc companion on there so maybe there is something there to make pc companion run automatically everytime you plug in to your pc. Just a thought.
[XPERIA X10 General] irkkso:
mswindows START->RUN type 'msconfig' uncheck -SonyEricsson PC companion at 'Startup' tab then reboot
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mccurt29:
Accounts & Sync Force Close After Going to Recovery & Using ADB to unistall unwanted apps does this happen to any1 else & is there a fix to this
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gtkansan:
Had the same problem (after I was in recovery mode and deleted a lot of the stock apps (htc and sprint crap)). I just reflashed the rom and started over, works fine now.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mccurt29:
yes i reflashed to then it works again but then all the crap apps come back with the reflashing :(
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mccurt29:
any1??????
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrDSL:
Obviously you're deleting something that it needs..What are you deleting?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eduardmc:
is this possible. i see a few rom which say that they are able to. from where can i download it.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] DarkPaLadin:
I have HTC HD2 from T-mobile.

Decided to flash it.

Hard SPL 2.08 is installed.

Started with a radio. Enterd the bootloader, connected it with the PC, everything was fine, but in the end a messadge came up that it could not update the software. The device whent dark, and now an all attemps to enter the bootloader it shortly vibrates and that all, the screen remains black.

Please, tell me how to reanimate it.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] djchubbs:
can you give more info please,

what radio did you flash and what rom?

thanks
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] DarkPaLadin:
Like I said it's HTC HD2 from T-mobile.

I've recieved it unlocked with ROM "Moon light 1.23" and Hard SPL 2.08 is installed.

Moon light had some bugs and I've decided to flash the device with "HTC_Leo_WWE-djet". Install went fine but the device refused to load futher then the screen with "Stick Together". I was told that it is becouse of old version of radio, so I've dowloaded "Leo_RADIO_15.28.50.07U_2.05.51.05_2.nbh" and tried to install it.

And faild. Please advise.