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[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rayman121985:
I have e-mailed them twice for price info and not a word...wonder why its taking so long...been about 2 days maybe they are on vacay...
[EVO 4G General] bob13bob:
So I starting calling the corporate sprint stores in my area and I noticed they were all asking if I was an existing (EC) or new customer (NC) before telling me if evo's were available. Turns out they are lying about their evo stock to EC. They will sell you one only if you're a NC

So I called a store, and told them I was a tmobile customer.

"We have 5 in stock so if you come in the next 30 minutes you can get one" .

Then, I told them I wanted to buy the phone outright, full retail, no line activation

sprint rep told me they don't have phones in stock for me.

Immediately I called sprint customer service; they called the store. (10 min after original call). Store now says none are available, and there is a waitlist.

I'm not the only one.

http://androidandme.com/2010/06/car...unning-low-but-could-be-higher-than-we-think/

Try it yourself:

Around Sunnyvale, Ca

5 of 6 stores I called asked if i was an existing customer before answering if they had it in stock. 6 store said none.

2 of 2 stores, told me they had stock, then changed tune when they found out i was an existing customer.

I should have just gone to the store, waited for them to present the phone. then reveal I'm an existing customer. If they try to pull it back, then call sprint customer service.
[EVO 4G General] :
Sprint may be trying to lure new customers to their network. More money on a new customer than an existing one. Shady but it may be true.
[EVO 4G General] dukins:
Lol this is so true. My wife and I were on vacation in Florida this week. We decide to go to a sprint store to see if any were available. They ask is this for an existing account or new account. I say new account. Mind you at least 5 people were in front of us asking for evos. Bottom line, when we said we were new customers the manager pulls out 2 evos for us and set up our account. Needless to say we got very strange looks at us and probably some middle fingers behind our backs as well. Feeling sorry for the existing customers.
[EVO 4G General] mrmomoman:
Remember a corporate store does not get paid on the new or upgrade like a third party agent would. So I do not see the incentive outside of perhaps signing new customers. But then again I would hope they want to keep the old ones as well :)

Sorry to hear that you are having these issues.

A letter to Mr. Hesse would be good to report this :) dan@sprint.com - don't expect a nice reply from him though :) It's automated. Email BJD@sprint.com

he will like it - no really he would.
[EVO 4G General] MrDSL:
No surprise really since they work off commission..

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[EVO 4G General] tobehuman:
This happened to me.

I'm an existing Sprint customer. I entered into a 2 year contract in December and got an HTC Hero.

I visited a Sprint corporate store in Culver City, California on launch day at 10:00am. I took my lunch break early (hour lunch). I signed in with the person at the front kiosk and it took 45 minutes before a sales person seen me. I told him I had a Hero, am not eligible for an upgrade, and would like to purchase an Evo outright a full price, and have my account moved over to it. He said he couldn't do this and he could only sell the Evo to customers who were eligible for an upgrade or if I wanted to add a new line. I was pissed and was going to be late coming back from lunch, so I left.

On the way back t work I called Sprint customer service from my phone. I explained what happened and the customer service rep said the store should have been able to sale me the phone at full price as long as I had the phone activate in the store, which I was going to, because I was going to have my account moved over. The customer service rep said she'd call the store to find out what happened on my behalf. I asked her if she could have the store hold a phone for me because they'd probably be sold out by the time I got off of work. She said she couldn't do this because the phone was in high demand.

Later at work I got a voice mail from the customer service rep I talked to earlier. She called the Sprint corporate store that wouldn't sell me the phone and talked to the manager. The manager agreed to hold a phone for me until I got off work for the inconvience.

After work I visited the Sprint store. The manager directed me to the person earlier who wouldn't sell me the phone earlier. The first thing the sales rep told me when I sat down was that they were instructed not to sale the phones to existing customers unless they were eligible for an upgrade or adding a new line. I think it's the store managers instructing their employees to do this to make their numbers look better or something.
[EVO 4G General] pirokosan:
Glad I didn't buy off sprint. I got a hero back in December too but got my evo from ebay. $520 and came with an extra 2gig sd. And since it's a google IO evo it has a month for free with full data. Now I have two sweet android phones! :3

Somewhat related: Add the $292 (total) speeding/changing lanes without indicators/not keeping distance tickets I got trying to get to the post office before it closed. Good thing the radar got me doing 90 and not the 155 before I hit the breaks! :p
[EVO 4G General] Jye75:
I'd say, all in all, you paid way too much for your phone (including your tickets) But at least you have two phones now. (sarcasm if you didn't get that)

And 155mph to get to the post office? Get real. If true, you're damn lucky you didn't kill someone. Idiot.
[EVO 4G General] rahb0sse:
They aren't lying. Their telling you the truth, you just failed to ask more question. They only have stock for new lines... if someone wants it without adding a new line, they'll order it and have it sent to the store overnight. I had my company rep order it for me and I got it Monday, $502 shipped.

I HIGHLY concur with this statement... fool.
[EVO 4G General] Breakthecycle2:
This is not new. T-Mobile was doing the exact same thing when the HTC HD2 ca me out...mainly due to the low supply.
[EVO 4G General] ajftl:
T mobile was doing the same with the HD2
[EVO 4G General] :
Reps in stores get more commission off building a brand new accounts and new activations. It's like this on all carriers.
[EVO 4G General] bob13bob:
nope. they are lying. if you read the thread its not sprints policy to separate stocks for existing and new customers. they rater get more commission buy refusing to sell to me rather than another customer. they refuse by telling me they have none when they do. Of course, sprint structures their commission in away as to encourage this behavor.
[EVO 4G General] katastrofik:
guess i got lucky

I was depositing a check at an ATM and saw a Sprint store a couple shops down so I decided to go in and see if they had any. After telling the girl behind the counter that I was an existing customer and wanted to buy it outright she told me they had a waiting list going but that they had received a shipment Wednesday that they had not checked yet. She took my number and said she'd call me after they sorted through it. I went across the shopping center to have lunch and when I was finished eating my phone rang. The Sprint rep had pulled one for me. I ended up getting my phone for nothing out of pocket. She suggested to add a 3rd line to get the phone at the new activation cost, waived the activation fee and billed the cost of the phone to my account which wont post until NEXT month. Sorry to hear about the troubles you guys are having...
[EVO 4G General] ShortBusCandid8:
I got one from the online store...ordered yesterday at around 10am and it's "out for delivery" from UPS right now. Just in case you haven't checked that out.
[EVO 4G General] Bp3dots:
And you also got an extra phone bill every month for 2 years for a 3rd line. :)

EDIT:

While telling people only new/upgrade accounts can get the phone is shady and unethical, I have to admit I wouldn't mind being able to restrict it to that at my store. It sucks selling something and making 0 money off it when the next guy would put some $ in your pocket. :( But alas, I just sell them to whomever. (assuming I have any in stock lol)
[EVO 4G General] jblazea50:
they shipped mine using USPS and it says Guaranteed Delivery Day/Time: June 11, 2010 12:00PM

guess what, it's past 12pm and there's no USPS guy, no delivery

i wished they had shipped using UPS
[EVO 4G General] torchTheMall:
radio shack

I have been going to radio shack here in NYC for sprint stuff. No lines, just walk in and grab an EVO. Everyone goes to the sprint stores, but honestly the radio shack guys on 12th and broadway are super nice. They held a pre for me last year and now hooked me up with the EVO on launch. I saw there were lines at the sprint stores, but no prob at the rat shack.
[EVO 4G General] itscaleb:
I was investigating where to get mine from on release day. I am a current customer not eligible for an upgrade. I was going to be buying outright. bestbuy wanted 599 for outright, radio shack wanted 499 outright and sprint wanted 450... I talked to someone at a commission based sprint store and he explained that they were not selling outright because the store made no money off of it. I was a little annoyed, but understood why... plus that store only ordered 15 evos. I then went to radio shack. they told me that they had a very large order and that they would be able to sell me one outright... The day of the release, I woke up at 6 in the morning and headed over to the radio shack that said they would sell it outright. When I got there, the sales rep that I had talked to before appologized to me and told me the regional owner of all my areas radio shacks had sent out an e-mail telling them not to sell outright.... I felt defeated.... I decided to just wait till later and get it when I could. I was driving around my home town around 3 p.m. and drove by the corporate sprint store and decided, why not. I went in, walked right up to a rep, no lines at all, and asked if they by chance had any evos left and that I wanted to buy it outright. he sat me down, walked into the back and walked out with an evo. he told me that after this one they only had 3 left. He explained to me that corporate stores don't make more or less on upgrades or outrights. To finish up this long story, I ended up getting it for 450 from the corporate store in my area. Not all of the stores were turning away outrights. Next time there is a new phone release, I am going back to that store. If any of you are in St. George, Utah, It is the only corporate store there...
[EVO 4G General] apexi350z:
Didn't know USPS does guaranteed delivery? They are the slowest shipping out there.. Yeah, they should've used UPS or FedEx for better tracking..
[EVO 4G General] jblazea50:
my shipment arrived yesterday (Saturday around 11:30am)

my 1st thought was, damn this phone is huge; it has all the features and anything someone can ask for in a phone

after moving from the Nexus One, i'd have preferred it if the EVO maintained a smaller size, similar with the N1, but with the added features; the N1 just feels light, smooth, and the screen just stands out; on the EVO, the screen seems dull, maybe it needs for resolution/pixel per inch or whatever (i'm no expert on this);
[EVO 4G General] Sporkman:
best buy FTW

i never deal with a sprint store's nothing but assholes in them stores
[EVO 4G General] TheBiles:
Simple solution: Tell them you're a new customer, then when they bring your EVO out change your mind and decide that you want it on your current line. If they refuse to sell it then threaten to cancel your service.
[EVO 4G General] TheBiles:
Not to burst your bubble or anything, but I just had a next-day package with UPS that was supposed to be delivered before the business day was over (5PM) that didn't get here until 6:30, so don't act like they're flawless.
[EVO 4G General] pixelpop:
This is LOL x 1000! You guys all wanted to be just like iPhone users....NOW YOU ARE!!!! :-)
[EVO 4G General] herzzreh:
I take offense to this! Last week I drove to the post office at around 145mph and it was perfectly safe. People got out of my way when they saw me coming up, no one got in front of me going significantly slower either out of spite or idiocy, a cop passed by me going a bit faster. All perfectly safe... oh, I forgot it was safe because it was Germany where people actually know how to drive. Duh... stupid me.
[EVO 4G General] thorpe24:
Autobahn for the win!
[EVO 4G General] Jye75:
Autobahn= exception. Though, I think we're safe in assuming the other guy with the tickets, was not in Germany, and had a significantly lower speed limit due to the nature of his post.

And BTW, going 145mph on a roadway just because you can and it's legal, in no way makes it safe. Car racing isn't safe, it can just be made safer for certain people (not the general public). There are plenty of morons in Germany who don't know how to drive safely, high-speeds or not. Been there.
[EVO 4G General] alexisprz:
I just tried asphalt 5 on my evo and it lags alot. The menu screen and start up are fine, the lag starts once you get into the actual game play and just cant stand it. I thought the 1ghz was going to take care of gaming but I guess not. Any body else with problems as well, or its something froyo will fix? Love the phone but my iphone 2g plays games smoother!

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[EVO 4G General] Shadow591:
Its the Sense UI wait for a ASOP ROM
[EVO 4G General] mrono:
God I sure hope so
[EVO 4G General] bobdude5:
its gamelofts fault..they didnt optimize it for snapdragon..buuut do you have the latest one? 3.1.3...and froyo does make a huge improvement but the latest one runs perfect on mine

its not sense..it ran laggy on my nexus one
[EVO 4G General] jayv1717:
runs pretty smooth on my evo......wierd
[EVO 4G General] Shadow591:
Just an assumption but i bet 1 FPS is Sense UI's fault
[EVO 4G General] Bielinsk:
It is not a well built game. It is not designed for our phones. It is simply a port from the iPhone
[EVO 4G General] mrono:
Now that makes more sense, I was sad that my phone couldn't run everything :(
[EVO 4G General] bluehaze:
There is not an Android phone in existence that this game will run smooth on LOL Maybe DroidX once it's released because it will have the best GPU available in an Android phone at that time but even that i'm not sure. I suspect DroidX will end up seeing some games only developed for it to take advantage of it's GPU like Need for Speed etc...

If your a gamer you might prefer DroidX but EVO is much nicer as a phone/internet/multimedia device. Kind of a catch 22.
[EVO 4G General] mrono:
driodx and reg droid can run this game i believe, because they have an actual dedicated GPU
[EVO 4G General] Sebrina:
Droid X and the old Droid carry the same GPU look at spec sheets. Also the Droid X doesn't have the best GPU of any Android device the new Galaxy S series spanks it.

http://lifehacker.com/5575317/smart...edium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+lifehacker/full
[EVO 4G General] bluehaze:
Bah I always forget about the Galaxy S, Samsung is not in my playbook given their past record with Android phones and thier terrible support along with that iPhone looking UI they put on thier devices they end up looking like those cheap chinese iphone knockoffs you get for 29.99 on EBAY LOL If I wanted an iPhone i'd buy an iPhone...not a Samsung!
[EVO 4G General] Sebrina:
Yawn... rather have a Samsung with an iPhone skin that's easily un-installed or disabled than a pos Evo with hardware limitations and unexplainable lag. Honestly saying Samsung has bad build quality makes me laugh since of all the phone makers HTC has the most build quality control issues than any other phone maker in the industry. Samsung TVs, PHONES, DVD Players etc... win awards pretty much every year and while their support isn't outstanding neither is HTC's, matter of a fact the Hero came out before the Moment and the Moment got their 2.1 update before the Hero. Not to mention the Hero never even got the 1.6 update which the Moment did so really HTC has even worse support.
[EVO 4G General] bluehaze:
I just loaded the game up again and I don't know what they did but the game plays pretty damn smooth now, much different than the last time I played it. Make sure you have the latest update.
[EVO 4G General] bluehaze:
Sorry didn't realize you were a Samsung fangirl, I don't like Samsung phones and I really hate the way they try and copy the iPhone...if I want an iPhone i'll buy an iPhone, it's as simple as that but if you like thier phones there is nothing wrong with that.

I love my EVO :)

Cheers
[EVO 4G General] vinscuzzy:
The Samsung Moment never got 1.6 btw. The only problem having a Samsung device, is the lack of DEV support. Youre kind of all alone out there. With HTC having so many phones, and a lot sharing the same components, theres a lot more people like XDA working on the issues. When the galaxy comes out, this would be my biggest issue about getting it, not to mention, I really love my EVO.
[EVO 4G General] storino03:
Samsung Moment did get the 2.1 update by Sprint. I dunno what you're talking about. Same with the Hero.
[EVO 4G General] vinscuzzy:
Yikes! I meant 1.6! Edited my post......
[EVO 4G General] mrmomoman:
No is been blazing! It's pretty addictive and i am not a gamer. No lag at all. I am not on an OC kernel. 002 with Nova screen. Played it on several ROM's all good.
[EVO 4G General] mrmomoman:
Go rant in the Samsung section why waste your time here on the POS EVO thread?
[EVO 4G General] Sebrina:
Because I can, sameway you can go anywhere you want in this forum and express your opinion. You have yours and I'll have mine.

Umm... yes it did I should know as I have a Moment and remember the day it came out.

Sorry not a fangirl by any means, I just know a dud when I see it.
[EVO 4G General] :
There is one problem with the Galaxy S

You are going to get 1 million comments saying IPHONE RIP OFFZ

Which in itself, is kind of true, it looks way too similar.
[EVO 4G General] Sebrina:
You're right but I can say Sense UI is pretty useless too and alot of people would agree. The fact remains you can easily install a custom ROM and get rid of it heck the kernel was already released and there's already a kitchen and ROMs out there to download so the skin point in my opinion is moot. Remember the most important thing is it's Android so it's not like there's no room for customization.
[EVO 4G General] vinscuzzy:
So you're saying the Samsung Moment got 1.6, Donut?
[EVO 4G General] :
Sense is junk, it's already removed off my phone.
[EVO 4G General] GHOST99K:
the first thing i did when i got my evo:got rid of the SENSE UI.well..... end of the year gingerbread 3.0 gonna have a brand new look of UI so im guessing no more SENSELESS UI.
[EVO 4G General] Sebrina:
Yes it did, it also got 2.1 months later but still before the HTC Hero lol.
[EVO 4G General] vinscuzzy:
Not to be a d**k, but the moment never got 1.6, it actually got CL14, which was an update of 1.5, but definitely NOT 1.6. Don't really understand why I'm going through the trouble of trying to prove you wrong, cuz its really not important. But it does say something about Samsungs lack of support for their phones. The fact is, the moment should have come with 1.6 because it had native cdma support. But instead they put it out to early with a bandaid

hack to make it work with 1.5. That's one of the reasons the moment was so buggy.....

http://afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2009/12/19/sprint_will_update_android_devices_to_firmware_2_1

Just to clarify, I still have my moment.;)
[MDA Compact II Software Upgrading] Aleksandra88:
hi everybody...

i have a german t-mobile mda compact 2 (windows mobile 5.0) and i can't understand a word... can someone tell me how to change it to english rom ???? :o :o:o

I have found something but i am not sure about it...

xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=647160

so, if anyone knows what i should do please TELL ME...

THANK YOU :o:o:o

INFO:

IPL 2.06.0001

SPL 2.06.0001

GSM 02.19.21

OS 2.6.2.28

ROM v. 2.6.2.28 GER

ROM datum 3/9/06

FUNKEMPFANGERVERSION (no idea what it means) 02.19.21

PROTOKOL v.4.1.13.09

ExtROM v. 2.6.2.113
[MDA Compact II Software Upgrading] scootie:
Hi!

Use lokiwiz0.2b to do CID unlock and SIM unlock.You can find it in this forum by search.

After that you can flash it with WWE ROM to make it english.

English ROM:

http://www.4shared.com/file/6d7J0n7A/RUU_Compact_ll_2060227_2060211.html

I recommend it because it has SPL 2.06 too and you can flash cooked ROMs also,if you need it later.There are some problems with higher SPL on some devices.

BR

Scootie
[EVO 4G General] Kooper113:
I have a small mark on my Camera already, and I've been handling my camera with extreme care this whole week/weekend thus far. I already have a pretty small scratch (not across the lens thankfully?) and I have no idea how it happened! Been moving my phone around very gently.

Is there anything I can do about the tiny scratch, or do I just have to live with it? I get pretty OCD about small things like this, so I need to make sure there's nothing I can do to try and remedy the scratch before flipping out. :)

Thanks everyone.
[EVO 4G General] Shadow591:
The Silicone Sleeve sprint sold me for $11 after 25% off (Premier) and Tax lifts it up off any table
[EVO 4G General] strung:
Relax. You and everybody else's phone will become dinged up. You are carrying it around with you all day everyday.
[EVO 4G General] capucio:
You can use the kickstand to keep it off the table or desk and use a case or pouch for carrying.
[EVO 4G General] Kshawn:
Use a liquid lens fixer like for glasses.
[EVO 4G General] scaots:
I cut a little piece from some old cheap screen protectors to cover mine. I'm sure there is some effect on the picture quality, but no current phone is going to compare to a Cannon anyway.
[EVO 4G General] kurtwoodfin:
Resisting Lens Scratch

You can always buy a thick rubber washer and glue it around the camera lens. If you do not want to glue it, you can place it in between the cover and the phone. The solution is not fool proof, but it will work nicely to provide extra cushion and space. This solution is easy and cheap. The washer should not be to tight or small in diameter, so it does not interfere with the camera.

Kurt
[EVO 4G General] Jye75:
Placing a rubber washer between the battery cover and the phone, would not do anything to keep the camera lens from resting on the surface that would scratch it.
[EVO 4G General] ViViDboarder:
I was thinking something along the lines of this. Basically you just need a ring that rests around the lens.

Something similar to this comes to mind. Of course, you wouldn't need to have a new lens on it. Just a piece of metal.

This could be magnetic, or glued. You could probably rip the phone apart and replace the piece with a more protruding piece to do the same, but that's far more intrusive.

I'm sure we'll see commercial magnet like solutions for this. I mean, come on. A small magnetic ring is all we need. Someone is going to bank on that.
[EVO 4G General] Jye75:
Or how about using hoverboard technology so the phone never touches anything, and hovers in midair? Geez people, buy a case.
[EVO 4G General] ViViDboarder:
Why cover the entire phone with a case when you can just put something around the lens?

I don't like cases. I think these devices were made to look and function in a certain way. If they "needed" a case it should have been built more robust.

I've had an iPhone 3G with no case for 2 years. I've also had no regrets.

Phone nudists unite!
[EVO 4G General] Jye75:
It was sarcasm. I too, like mine naked, the way it was born. I have a leather case on my hip to put it in when I'm not using it. Jabbing at the fact that people actually want an accessory to attach to the camera lens ring just to keep it from touching another surface and getting scratched, like there should obviously be a market for that. Anyone that anal about possibly scratching a cellphone camera lens... I'm surprised they EVER pull the phone out to do anything at all. (again, sarcasm)