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[Legend Android Development] CrWEE:
If you can buy Apple and force the iOS4 developer team to do it... than it's possible.
[Legend Android Development] stex_80:
yeah ??!!

tomorrow i try ! :p:D:D:D:D
[Legend Android Development] cryshop:
Why bought a Legend? Go get an iphone!
[Legend Android Development] paviol:
Come on, get a grip... if you want iOS buy an iphone or itouch or even iPad, if windows mobile, you should get another htc. Its like I'm gonna ask can I get android on my Nokia 3310? ...

Please don't give such an appropriate question.
[Legend Android Development] BesFen:
Yes, +1.

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[Legend Android Development] dubart:
Wrong thread, BTW...
[Legend Android Development] s7yler:
Yes but I think he asks because its possible the other way. Android OS has been ported to run on the iPhone afaik. Something many also thought was impossible.....
[Legend Android Development] Gaillimh_Abú28:
I bought a legend because of it's specs, screen, finish (aluminium casing),it cost way less than an iPhone, and finally because of Sense. The only reason i wanted to see would it work is because im sick of Google waiting to open the Paid market in Ireland (i know this is the case in alot of other contries aswell)

The HTC Legend has simular specs to the iPhone and you cant put the compare the Nokia 3310 in any way to the HTC Legend. As s7yler pointed out it the iPhone has been ported to Android. Im sorry if i took 2 minutes of your time but i was just curious if it would work, or if we could see it in the future! Hell i haven't even rooted my Legend yet! So thanks for your reaction, as i said i was just curious.

Sorry about that, i had second thoughts the minute i posted it here.

Mod close if you wish.
[Legend Android Development] paviol:
true even android can be run on some of the WM devices, because of the boot process, and phone spec. But iOS has completely different boot system/process though its not possible to run it on other devices (for now) , besides have you seen iOS run on any other devices then Apple's ? don't thinks so mate..
[Legend Android Development] ParanoidDK:
Also one big thing to remember...

The only reson android runs on ipod/iphone is because android is open source... and that is more easy to handle and port (Not that i am saying it was easy for them to port Android to the i devices as apple hardware is also keep as close source) then a closed source system as iOS....

It will be the same as porting Windows 7 to ARM or PowerPC cpu.... not something you can do without having access to the source code of windows...
[Legend Android Development] danishnicooo:
Hmm i have run MAC OS on a pc so it is possible tbh

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[Legend Android Development] ParanoidDK:
to be nice i wont say how many ways that statement is wrong...

but most of osx IS open source... NONE of iOS is open source...

And the only reson it is possibel to run osx on a pc is because the basic part of osx is open source and that is the kernel so it can be modded and rebuild to work on diffrent cpu's....

I know there are bin patched versions of the mach_kernel but they are never as good as the one that they make when apple release the source and that normal happens 14 days after the os update...

(to end this with a statement why i can say all this i can tell you i have been a active osx86 user the last 5 years, been really involved in the help channels and know a lot of the devs)
[Legend Android Development] sp991:
There is a solution to paid market not available. When I had android on my Diamond I used it for a while and the paid application were still unavailable in canada at this time so I made a little search on this and I found something.

There is an application that can make the market think you are from UK or US and then you have acces to all the paid application. You still need to pay but you have acces to buy them at least.

I don't remember the name but it was something like "market enabler". Sorry I erased all android data of my phone cause there is no more development in this direction and GPS, bluetooth and camera were still missing. I can't even think of living without google maps with AGPS and speeking while driving is illegal over here unless using a bluetooth headset or an hands free system.

Good luck with that.
[Legend Android Development] wellbug:
hey,guys

look this

http://www.hiapk.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=419885&highlight=ios

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTk5NjExMjYw.html
[Legend Android Development] Exanimus:
just install market enabler app and u can use paid market, i live in Sweden and we don't have paid market enabled here yet, but with the magic of a rooted Legend and market enabler i bought an app yesterday and have installed and it's working 100% :)

As far as it comes to your question about if it's possible to run ios4: i think it's not nice of people to make fun of you for just asking, technics-geeks as we all are many of us just want to know IF it's possible.. people shouldn't be flamed just for asking.
[Legend Android Development] makedonii:
i agree with the last post as well. and as i was seeking some answers i was disapointed when i saw some ppl who are making fun of the first post and playing smart as they aperently dont know **** about the question and dont even care about sharing knowlage (i dought they have any). instead all they do is sit there and ***** about being smart and thats so childish.

since im a new to this forums this gives me a perspective on what cind of ppl are hanging out here...and that usualy not a good sign to see
[Legend Android Development] berek9999:
Aah, poor baby.
[Legend Android Development] dezshiz:
o.o is that real? I cant tell...
[Legend Android Development] TheLegendaryJay:
The second link won't stream out of China, and the first link wasn't loading for me at all.

Not going into the legalities, but OSX is based on the same CPU's as ordinary PC's now days and has been for the past 3 - 4 years.
[Legend Android Development] LayZeeDK:
Just install Market Enabler app :) I'm not sure if you need root to install it.
[Legend Android Development] bestv2:
drunk~~sorry
[Legend Android Development] were2:
but both android and ios are based on the unix kernel, it wouldnt be impossible. a little bit reverse engineering and some kernel/driver changes and you should be able to boot ios4 on the legend. some bored hackers out there? xD
[Legend Android Development] ivanakis:
ahhaHAHAHAHAhaah its funny how you compare the iphone to nokia 3310 hahah
[Click General] djemm1996:
Is that real to learn port ROM? I am just addictive with android . Or I just have to study myself?

Experiment etc.

I can made 1.6 roms, but I want learn port, so froyo port is my far dream. :)
[Click General] dancer_69:
I think here you will find what you need:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6707362&postcount=1
[Click General] djemm1996:
Thanks.:)

This one is good.

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[EVO 4G Android Development] drama2747:
Ok so started with nexus one, now with the EVO. I'm thinking its just Android.

Ive got a Pioneer 7100BT in the car. But research shows this to be a widespread issue.

I can pair and all the audio goes through properly. Pandora streams through the car. I can access my phone book, make and receive a call. The only problem is the call audio is always rerouted through the phone....

Any ideas?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] richardvilla:
Hi all. Well i got no success with my previous post, (my text messages falling into my outbox) never mind!

My battery (1600mha) lasts a day if im lucky. Someone mentioned if i changed the "radio" it may well improve the battery life. How on God's earth do i do this?

Does anyone know if the touch pro's battery life is better cus im thinking of changing already!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] denco7:
The only way to change the radio is to CID unlock your phone, and flash a new " radio ". Some people will insist that changing the radio will effect battery life. I have been doing the rom flashing think for a while, and have never noticed any significant difference in battery life because of the radio ( firmware )

Here is some reading

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=433835

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=393182

While I don't own a TP, friends have said it is like any other smartphone that does a little bit of everything, the battery drains quickly when you take advantage of all the power consuming features
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] stylez:
Re: TouchPro

It's more powerful runs more processes a 3D interface, so drains a bit faster than Tilt as stock battery same mAh, i get about 1.2 days on 6.1/Sense 2.5 but that's general use.

Could get 2 days plus on Tilt 6.1/M2D.
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ Themes and Apps] josefcrist:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=682663

I just wanted to point out the the leo/hd2 cpu speed app works on the expo.
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ Themes and Apps] ARHMogul:
Installed great, but I cant verify the reclock speed... Im not sure if it is running faster or not. What speed did you set yours to?
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ Themes and Apps] josefcrist:
i just left my cpu at the default.
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ Themes and Apps] Etaduck:
Interesting little program, found that my Expo was stable up till 1115, and anything above that it froze. But basically you have to be plugged in to use anything about the 900 MHz, so, unless you want to disable auto-scaling on the CPU it's not of much use.
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ Themes and Apps] josefcrist:
yeah I am quite disappointed that lg did not make an extended battery for the expo.
[EVO 4G General] Bulls729:
Engadget has apologized for removing the poll with an explanation as to why, here is the link:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/10/conspiracy-theory-what-happened-to-the-evo-4g-vs-iphone-4-post/
[EVO 4G General] phinnaeus:
Alright guys, this is SRS BSNS!!! We have to make sure the Evo wins in THIS poll or our phone will actually become physically worse somehow!
[EVO 4G General] defcon6:
LOL, voted.
[EVO 4G General] rigg419:
I voted twice, one on my pc and once on my evo. :)

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[EVO 4G General] shaundalglish:
vote or your evo will be sad :D
[HD2 General] Fabian1985:
Hi,

I want to buy a new phone tomorrow. I had a Raph100 (Touch pro).

Is this really fast?

Because If this is not worth a buy maby I dont.

Greetz
[HD2 General] kilrah:
Test it in the store, you'll instantly see it's a Formula 1 in comparison.
[XPERIA X10 General] pshdo:
Hi forum.

I have a kind of a strange clock issue on my X10i.

When i use my phone, the clock is just fine for a week or so, and then suddenly, it looses about an hour, but at the same time i discovered that the nordic contries is gone from the list in clock settings, and they was there before ?

If i do a repair of the firmware with SEUS, the phone is back to normal again for a week or so...

I can´t figure out what causing this...

I have thought about if it could be some kind of app i have installed from marked perhaps??

I am running R1FB001, but i have tried both R1FA014 and 016 with the same problem...

If i set the time manually there is no problem with the clock...

Pleace, can you help me here ??
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] njzfiinestkiid:
I made a mistake and downloaded the official sprint update and now i cant ROOT it because its patched. But i was wondering if anyone could tell me how i can downgrade itt? PLEASE SEND ME A PRIVATE MESSAGE IF YOU CAN HELP! thanks
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] unCoRrUpTeD:
First. Our phones had 1.5 and not 1.6.

Second, You can not downgrade because the hboot on 2.1 is higher than 1.5.

Try unrevoked.com from your phone and it should root 2.1
[General Questions and Answers] tbruce07:
I want to start out saying you guys are all amazing and have helped me out a million times in the past. Although I've never posted here...I usually I find help by searching around. Also I'm sure you all have heard this question a million times but I have searched high and low for an answer, not just here but all over, and still nothing can fix it. So here it goes and please don't flame!

So I installed the 2.2 froyo update on my droid (which was not rooted before this). I downloaded the update from engadget followed one of the thousand walkthroughs to install and went great. I used SPrecovery with the update.zip file, of course allowed the update and such. Installed the froyo update, reboooted and everything works great except one problem. Any of the rooted apps (ex: setcpu, rom manager ect...) says cannot find root access (or something of that extent.) Also I have re done the update.zip file about 5 or 6 times now and still nothing. The superuser permissions app is there and has always been there but I do not get the box asking to allow permissions. So I can't run any rooted apps!

Things I've done:

Master clear/reset. Second, third attempts to root with sprecovery(also cleared cache).

Su commands in adb with android sdk.

Reinstalled all apps pertaining to this problem countless times.

Enabled debugging.

I'm very fimiliar with iphone jailbreaking (been doing it since 1.0 os) and with that changing permissions to 755 fixes it, but I'm still pretty new to this but it sounds to me like I missed a step somewhere. I'm 99.9 percent sure its rooted because some apps tell me it is and SU is there. I've givin up on this one so any help you guys could throw my way would be great!

Thanks again.
[General Questions and Answers] DeathmonkeyGTX:
Sorry, I'm not going to jump ship to anything past 21xxx WinMo 6.5 until an Android Sat Nav "app" can match Garmin Mobile XT in rural areas of the United States WITHOUT a data connection/with locally stored maps.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shrub:
Let me start by saying I love Android. I love Google. Not only is Android an extremely powerful OS with a wonderful interface but I love the whole open ethos behind it, led by Google, the good guys.

But I just can't for the life of my understand why GPU support is not being introduced, or at least acknowledged that it's missing and it's coming.

I'm running Froyo, and whilst it may well be 500 gazillion times faster crunching numbers and performing data intensive tasks and whatever, it doesn't feel it as I use the phone next to an iphone 3gs.

Manipulating every single screen, every single swipe, window, everything including menus and web browsing just doesn't feel as good as on the iphone. Even if it is is technically faster, what good is it when the thing just doesn't feel as good? It might as well be slower, because how something feels has the bigger impact on people's perceptions.

I understand it's not as easy to accomplish as apple did it being as they only have one phone etc, but surely there's got to be some way?

Why is this issue not bigger within the Android community? Everybody knows the iphone is more fluid to use no matter how much we might want to deny it to ourselves.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Paul22000:
It's easy to be smoother when you can't do more than one thing at a time.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jack_R1:
Apple moves basically a wallpaper with icons, which is just a picture.

Android moves widgets and live wallpaper. Tons of CPU used for that. Turn off your live wallpaper, disable widgets - get the same scrolling as iPhone.

GPU is there and has nothing to do with it.

Search would have helped avoiding useless complaints in capital letters with tons of "?"s.

If the visuals are so important to you - get an iPhone. System limitations - there's only so much that can be done between battery life, multitasking and graphics. iPhone uses graphics at the expense of multitasking, Android does otherwise.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bmj1086:
I am the most unbiased person I've ever met and I will honestly tell you that the response on my phone is as fast and smooth as I have ever seen on any phone. I don't think it can get better. I do not like the grid popping in the Nexus Launcher though. I wish it would just scroll like the old versions.

You don't have a real question in all honesty. Your question is, why is it not like the iPhone and why is it not "smooth" to you personally. That's just the way one person feels. I like the way the N1 feels across the entire OS. They're two different OS's and Phones so they're never going to be the same. I think you really just prefer one over the other in your own opinion. Neither of them can be called better outside of an opinion so nothing will change.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wesbalmer:
I will sacrifice fluidity any day for functionality.

Also, do you have any idea of what Android has come from, in the sense of versioning? I am certain that this is almost identical the iPhone OS/Hardware Saga from version 1 and up.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] temperbad:
I have a question. Why is there so much comparison to iphone. I think android Smashes them but why post topic after topic about that... where's that one mod. He should delete this.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bmj1086:
There is always a comparison of the top two of anything. Android and iPhone are very similar and they're they top devices so they're going to get compared. 99.999% of the comparisons are biased in some way but the fact is that neither of them are factually better than the other. They both have amazing features that the other doesn't and the word "better" and your decision come down to your personal preferences. I don't like iTunes, I think widgets are a MUST for me and I enjoy modding my phone without going through hell to do it or getting the cops called on me so I chose Android. Also I have been behind everything Google has done for many years and I will continue to love the company but biased attitudes are something I try to avoid. Not only do you not learn anything but you look foolish acting that way [I'm not talking about you personally I'm speaking in general].
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dalingrin:
Wow, I'm surprised to see that I'm one of the only people who completely agree with the original poster.

This isn't limited to the launcher. As the OP stated, literally every on screen motion is smoother on the iPhone.

This isn't because of the lack of multitasking on the iPhone because iOS 4 looks just as smooth.

It is either a consequence of the threading used in gui programs and/or better use of the GPU for animations and scrolling. It seems to me on my Nexus that in most cases scrolling and animations are slower when the CPU is processing something where as on an iPhone the scrolling seems smooth regardless of the processes involved.

One of my complaints along these lines is scrolling in the Android web browser isn't nearly as nice as even the slower iPhone 3G, much less an iPhone 3GS.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DMaverick50:
Agreed, Ill take Android's greater capabilities over Iphone's fluidity any day but both would be sweet.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dalingrin:
Without a doubt. I'm just not convinced the two are mutually exclusive.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ap3604:
Once I saw this post I knew I didn't have to look at the rest of the thread since this answered it all ;)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mortzz:
I disable screen animations. I have no need for worthless eye-candy. Just give me whatever I tapped on as fast as possible.

Love it.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dalingrin:
I either turn the animations off or turn their speed up. IMO scrolling is more of an issue than animations.

Example:

Goto www.androidcentral.com or www.anandtech.com on a Nexus One and with the page zoomed all the way out try scrolling. At the top of the page my frame rate is <15.

Now do the same on a wee iPhone(even first gen) and see how smooth the scrolling is.

Is it end of the world? No, of course not. I am very satisfied with my phone compared to my previous iPhone 3GS and 3G. That said, considering my main use of my phone(beyond being a phone) is web browsing, I would still love to have the scrolling of my "crap" iPhone.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xManMythLegend:
Its a genuine complaint.

The lack of smooth visuals is getting silly. I think Google bringing in the guy from Palm/Danger is an ackowledgment of this.

Its not cpu , its not ram, its not multitasking. Its Apple that has some if not the best UI guys in the business in terms of visuals. Id say WebOS guys were the tops but they were mostly old Apple guys so go figure.

Apple spends a ton of time and offort making sure everything looks fluid across the entire experience. Android does not. Its simply not something theyve taken seriously until 2.1. They are the best engineers in the world..not GUI designers. The fact the Gallery still has 16 bit depth is a tell tale sign they arent emphasizing visuals.

Anyways the GPU is underused. UI , Games , Codecs theres a alot of room for improvement. Androids UI is "better"...but lets not kid ourselves..the animations and fluidity are heavily in Apples corner. Loks are important; otherwise go date a fat hairy girl.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] md2:
I thought I was quite picky but I don't notice any problems with my nexus :)

Maybe I haven't spent that much time playing with iPhones but when I have seen people using them they press something and have to wait for it to load, they get a grey checker pattern when they scroll too fast in the browser. Sometimes their swipes didn't register either.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Eclair~:
I agree with this wholeheartedly. Android really just isn't the most aesthetically pleasing user interface around, I've never owned an iPhone - and don't plan to, but Apple simply knows their stuff when it comes graphic design..
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] staples17:
There's been some info on this issue on the android-platform groups and the skia rendering engine group (Skia acutally has an experimental OpenGL rendering branch).

From what I understand, hardware acceleration can't be implemented in older devices (ex: G1) because they only support one OpenGL instance at a time, meaning the launcher could be in conflit with apps. It also seems as if the stuttering we feel is actually caused by Android's garbage colletor because it blocks the UI thread when it kicks in and not because the phone's cpu cant keep up with scrolling. If you watched some of the Google I/O 2010 videos, they said they know of the issues with the garbage collector and they are working on it.

My guess is that hardware acceleration will come sooner or later (specially with the Tegra 2 chips and tablet format :rolleyes:) but if you want to make things move a bit you can always go to code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=6914 and star the issue (consider it a vote :p).

New here btw, hello all :D
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SBS_:
I just tested anandtech.com on my N1 using Dolphin HD and have Froyo installed. The page was pretty much butter smooth except the top which had a flash banner ad and a flash "news reel". Of course the iPhone is going to be smoother at the top of that page since it doesn't show any flash elements. Not to say I don't want smoother scrolling when there are flash elements, but I'd rather have them showing with a little choppy frame rate than not at all.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nexus5894:
RE: GPU Support

It's a common misconception that Android is slow changing windows and stuff- just go to Spare Parts and turn the window animations off.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
my nexus next to the iphone, the nexus is just as smooth and fast to my eyes. the nexus is actually buttery smooth. using launcher pro. maybe that is what makes the difference i bet.