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[Desire General] ParanoidDK:
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We have to remember with the new iphone we get the most usefull feature ever... The 3 axes Gyro no one can live with out that

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Well i have been a iPhone user for 2½ years now... got a HTC Legend, sold it again because the screen is to small and is wating on a N1 now.. But there was honest nothing with the new iPhone that can make me say yes i want to buy this for full unlocked price that is 3 times the price that i get the N1 for unlocked...
[Desire General] subharmonic:
Sorry - you're right Dave - it's about £100 for a 32gb...
[Desire General] mcgon1979:
staggeringly sh1t? Not sure if that's sarcasm or you have a faulty phone?

I thought its as good as any 5mp phone camera in my own experience and I have used 4 of them in recent months. Camera performed much better than I had expected it to.

3 pictures I took this weekend. If they are "staggeringly sh1t" I stand corrected. I guess its just a difference of opinion on 'phone camera' quality (it is a primarily a phone, not a camera).

http://i.imgur.com/yN20V.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/zKcGH.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/R0KWJ.jpg
[Desire General] DaddyCee:
Ah but the Iphone 4 has a gyroscope. Whoop dee do!!
[Desire General] foxmeister:
He's obviously not an ex-Hero user, because the camera on the Hero was staggeringly sh1t! ;)

The Desire's camera is probably one of the better ones out of the phones I've owned but then again I prefer to use dedicate cameras/camcorders, so any camera on a phone is purely only for occasional use.

Regards,

Dave
[Desire General] cardiak:
Apple are killing the software industry... which is why I came to Android in the first place. Ive followed it avildly from day 1 and how far it has come in the time is unbelievable. Its rapid.

I just dont like Apples attitude.
[Desire General] boge:
The Evo and Dell streak is new!.. those are not old device at all.. I am referring to the one who said that it was old technology. Eventually, the idea of video call is already from years ago, but nobody want to use it because of the cost. And now we can use it for free. Isn't that good? and for sure, our Desire will not be suitable for this function.

Btw, are you sure that years ago you can do a video call using 3G as a data? Not with a special video call price? Correct me if I was wrong, but afaik we need to pay a premium price for video call, at least here in Netherlands, also not every provider provides this service.

and anyone wanna bet about the quality of fring video call compare to built in facetime in iPhone 4??

Anyway, facetime is only between iPhone4 and fring can be used by any android devices (at this moment maybe only 2 kind of it available), but again, not for our Desire...

I hope at the time I can get a new phone (in another 9 months), there will be a much better android phone to replace my Desire. And meanwhile, let's hope that the announcement of iPhone 4 will push HTC and google harder to release Froyo as soon as possible.
[Desire General] TeCH-Guruz:
I do agree that the cost of the contract's for the iphone are ridiculas here in the uk people have been getting raped on there iphone contracts for years. My contract with the desire is a very good deal but I could easily swap for a iphone quite cheaply. Sell desire on ebay and get around £350 I already got £50 cashback for taking out a contract so the iphone wouldnt cost much and would still have a very good contract deal.
[Desire General] mcgon1979:
I agree Dave. It's purely just a phone of convenience as it's always with you. Anyone wanting any level of serious photography needs to use a larger aperture dedicated camera. I just like how the phone camera is always with me and I can point, shoot, and share on gmail or facebook or youtube instantly.
[Desire General] boge:
+1

still using my old Canon 40D for real picture.. but using Desire for easy sharing...
[Desire General] foxmeister:
I only mentioned those phones because they are in the public conciousness at the moment, but Fring has supported video calling on Nokia phones (e.g. N95, N97 etc) for some time now.

Yes. I had two of the very phones mentioned here, and I got them when they first came out. The plans came with a number of free minutes for video calling, though I never used more than the included minutes because as I said before it was really only a gimmick you'd show off to people in the pub.

I can pretty much guarantee that shortly after the iPhone 4 launches (and works over cellular data!) you'll see people sitting on trains and buses, or in pubs and coffee shops, making video calls to each other, but a few months down the line those phones will be firmly attached to their ears again!

That's pretty much what happened when the networks launched their 3G networks over here (falsely believing video calling was going to the killer app) and I see no reason why it won't be again.

Regards,

Dave
[Desire General] moshbeard:
As always, I'm glad Apple have announced a new product, because it will make HTC and other companies push innovation even harder.

The only thing I'm a little jealous of is the screen, but I'm almost certain HTC will better it sometime very soon.
[Desire General] pina_:
I like the iphone, but some essential missing features makes me choosing android:

- customisable homescreens, I don't like the fact that each iphone has got the same look behind the lockscreen. It's like buying an apple macbook where you can't customize the desktop background, icons settings etc... Also, by refusing the use of a homescreen (aka desktop), widgets aren't much of a use, since widgets are stripped-off apps for quick accessibility. It's like a windows computer where you always have to go throught the start-menu to launch programs, instead of using shortcuts on the desktop or the taskbar.

- wireless syncing: unless you are willing to pay for mobile me, you can't wirelessly sync your data. I don't like the idea that I have to put the phone into a cradle or connecting to a computer before it can sync, meaning you have to think about it: "aaah, now i need to sync my data". No, I want that my phone automatically syncs my data for me whenever I have an internet connection. It's so easy that my adress book and calendar both are synced automatically under 1 account.

- social networking: I like the idea that facebook, flickr and twitter are integrated into the OS. Making it easy to share media on the phone.

But what I do like about the new iphone is:

- battery life, although I'm confident HTC will work on that aspect in future models

- 720p 30fps recording and editing, although I rarely make a video with my phone

- very smooth GUI, which is still in development at Android. The Animations of Android aren't consistent, e.g. sometimes a window bounces back at the edges, sometimes not.

It looks gorgeous, the OS is gorgeous, but it lacks important functionalities what makes Android a better choice for people like to have customized stuff more. don't be mistaken, i'm a big apple fan, but more because of their OS and computers. I don't use an ipod at all.
[Desire General] dgattenb:
the Iphone is 5 yaers behind every one else and is trying to catch up..

re multitasking ( real or not ) , copy and paste etc... it's a shame the apple lot think there phone is the best in the world cause they have finely caught up with the other phones...

If they go to the desire etc or the evo .. I think they would be very scared .. it al depends who shouts louder !!!!!!
[Desire General] ParanoidDK:
pina_ you dont need mobileme to sync the contacts, calenders over wireless... All you need is exchange access and that google gives for free.. then you can sync mails, contacts and calenders with gmail and google calender. No need to connect the iphone to the computer to do that.. and you get push email also...

And am just pointing out you can do that like you can on android not showing any love one way or another... :)
[Desire General] alphagamma:
I don't understand the fuss about the screen, it's tiny and who gives a **** about those few pixels more.

You can be sure that in not time the standard resolution wil also be increased on android bassed devices AND with a large screen size.
[Desire General] Little_Tiger:
This is my remark about the phone. And the one who wants to get it..sure it is a personal taste...

(talking in my point of view)

Let's start with a few of the talked about additions...

GYROSCOPE. What would I use this for??? Games, ok fine for games, but I won't buy a phone to play games...

Screen. WOW,but I won't buy a phone because it has a better screen but lacks of things I would really want on a phone.

Design. I will not buy a phone that looks better.. I need my phone to work.

Now speaking for a iPhone 2G and iPhone 3GS owner/user. I love my HTC Desire. The new iOS 4, has NOTHING new for me... that I NEED. Video Calling???? I have skype to do that. and when I call someone..I prefer a good talk connection then a video connection.

All the point brought forward by Steve Jobs, doesn't change my mind in buying a new iPhone.. I already have 2, which NOW I will not use.

but those are my point...

if you want one..go ahead you will not be dissapointed.
[Desire General] samac92:
Me. On the Desire text and graphics look crappy because it's a pentile screen. Have you seen a proper high resolution display and compared it to the Desire? It blows it away.

But the iPhone browser formats the text in a format that is readable without you having to zoom at all, but it's a matter of preference I suppose.

The thing I love about the iPhone browser is that it zooms in on what you double tap on - e.g if you double tap on an image it will fit that image to the screen, if you double tap on a cell in a table it will zoom in on that cell, etc.

The Android browser just zooms to a set level, so if you double tap on a large image you have to pinch zoom out again to get it to fit the screen.
[Desire General] Anthony2oo5:
I think the following link answers this question:

http://lifehacker.com/5557550/which-do-you-prefer-iphone-or-android

P.S. Check the Poll
[Desire General] samac92:
I could go to MacRumors and do a similar poll and get the complete opposite result.. It's not surprising people reading lifehacker prefer a customisable, hackable phone :P
[Desire General] copex:
no apples for me i don't want to be one of steves B**CH's and if i want porn on my phone then it my choice? and if i want to use flash then i can & if i want to use songs from other places than iTuines i will.........
[Desire General] PaoloWeckl:
the only way an iphone can kill an high-end android device is by shot him with a M203.
[Desire General] r47z:
nice one :)
[Desire General] myth1001:
ROFL! :D

Android is the way to go!

Only thing that the iPhone 4 attracts me is the build quality. Other than that, it's definitely a NO!
[Desire General] samac92:
your only right on one point - flash, though i doubt you're using flash on you're desire right now..

porn - you use the web browser, i think you'll be happy to find that nearly all porn sites have converted their videos to iphone friendly formats.

and you can download your music from other places than itunes... i don't know where you got the idea that you couldn't.
[Desire General] thingr:
Of course it's the ultimate answer to anything Symbian, WinMo or Android. Heck, it's an Apple!

Sarcasm aside - it might be glorious on paper, but once people start to use it and the hype wears off, the inevitable nigs & glitches will surface and then it'll be just another ordinary mobile phone.
[Desire General] r47z:
another reason to rejoice :)

Desire won 'Hottest' new phone at the Mobile Industry Awards in London!
[Desire General] Ethania:
Cant see what´s so special. looks like more mainstreem design.

But I had a hard time useing the small screen on the 3G model.

I would probably have the same issue with this the new tiny screen.

And were is the agenda view and usefull info wich I need onscreen?
[Desire General] Barff1984:
you mean like the desire

I'm sure more people complain about glitches in other phones compared to the Iphone. Especially the Desire....How many threads have i read about things going wrong with their brand new desire and needed to replace it....I've never heard an iphone user say that.

Yes other phones have had certain features for much longer than the iphone...

but you know what...

Iphone...when they do add a feature...make it work.

I got the desire in the first week of the release...The only thing that's making me stick with it is the tethering. Once i get the internet installed in my room next week. I really have no reason for tethering and the desire will end up being just another phone that will be out-of-date within 4 months.

We all talk about ''customisation' of the Android phones..blah blah blah...but really....does it actually matter.

Everyone complains about not wanting to be part of the ''walled garden'' that is the Apple OS...but come on...does it really matter? They do everything so well and the phone just...works.

I've never had an Iphone as i knew it would take a few versions of it for Apple to make a decent one..but i really think this is the one for me now.

Oh and complaining about Apple not having flash...(like the other guy said)...does it really matter? because i'm sure 90% of the people here don't actually use it that much.
[Desire General] Hasanovic:
Innovation?

What will the next iphone in 2011?

iphone 4gs with support for 4g and maybe videocall over 4g

and jobs will introduce this as an innovation (in mean the competition introduce 5g internet).
[Desire General] herghost:
the v5 will have the great innovation of verbally being able to talk to your contacts*

*contacts will need to own iPhone v5, agree to Apple allowing them to make calls which do not include any mention if Apple tm branded words, flash, adobe, or any other word Apple may decide is inappropriate at any given time. Apple may withdraw this service at anytime. Using new apple 'icall' technology may incur extra charges than standard network charges.

iPhone - for those that color coordinate their man bag
[Desire General] RXP:
I think the HTC Desire screen is incredible for reading text, but the pink tint issue is a huge thing and the inaccurate colour preproduction sucks.

If only the screen was bigger I'd jump ship straight away. The specs have really impressed me and blow the desire away. As far as the iphone being closed, you can always jail break it. Hopefully the new one will be able to be jail broken.

Still, the total cost of ownership for my Desire is £380 on a 2 year contract. The new iphone will be at least 2.5x that. It'll cost about £700-800 unlocked too!
[Desire General] gogol:
Probably because you dont participate on a specific iPhone forum?

You just heard ... :)

Work ... yeah. It does not mean "better", OK?

Or do you mean work as "bug-free"?

Probably not for you, but it does matter for some (a lot of) people.

Walled garden = no freedom of choice?

If that what you mean, then yeah ... it does matter :)

Sure ;) Hehehehe ...

Again, not you probably ... but a lot more people do use and want to have it.

Because it is part of the web ... web experience.

I tried iPhone 3GS to browse the web using its Safari web browser.

And to be honest, the experience is NOT satisfactory ... compare to the Android Chrome browser (on my HTC Desire of course).

When I (pinch) zoom a web page, I must scroll left and right to read the text.

Chrome will re-flow the text nicely, fitted to the screen width.

Nice eh :)
[Desire General] th3:
Eggsactly. Tick tock, if one does something the public likes, the other follows+adds. It's always been this way in a competitive industry. They just want money/marketshare/brand loyalists at the end of it all. Contracts are the biggest setback/killers for many of us end users.

My better half will probably test one for a few days when it's out here. Not sure if she'll want to upgrade from her 3G version, but I'll get a chance to test it then and see if it's worth purchasing. Some of the marketing babble sounds interesting if reality is as good... As long as the screen doesn't break on small drops. Very regular in my life. It has to be durable and resilient.

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[Desire General] th3:
Whoever said that if customization matters, eheh. Quite honestly, it is the absolute no.1 feature I look at before buying a smartphone. It counts thousands of points on the checklist alone. It's massive. Allowing me to make it as I want, thoroughly, and to get junk I don't use/want removed from my phone. I really would not use the stock Desire if it wasn't for this and being able to get apps I want for needed functions. None of the stocks devices I can bear to live with every hour, they are set up orientated to niches who have very little in common with my mentality/lifestyle/requirements. Such a closed concept is so 1998. The same problem I had when phones were just typical one-fit-for-all phones with extremely little flexibility, control and customization.

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[Desire General] lamborg:
New feature - Multitasking :eek:

Seriously, what took them so long to add multitasking :rolleyes:

Though I don't care. :p
[Desire General] Jazd71:
Wow Hat off to Apple. They are marketing gurus! It seems to me from all the comments that no one will really agree but to disagree.

But It's taken Apple 4 generations of Iphone to get to the Iphone 4, which I have to say looks like a sweet piece of kit; how ever the likes of HTC have stormed the market with such innovational pieces of kit in less than 12 months ( Hero, Legend, Desire N1).

I personally love the flexibility of the Android system and I've had Iphones but only secondary to my HTC androids and now with the Desire my Iphones have gone.

Ive friends who are as loyal to apple as I feel to Android and they are firmly stuck in the Apple zone but as for me "I am not a number" the futures exciting! the Future is Android! Well for me at least,:p
[Desire General] Aitese:
What complete and utter rubbish. I own an iPod Touch that broke recently...you know long it took for me to see Apple? 4 days. Even when I got there my appointment to see someone was over an hour late. You know why?

iPhone users lined up for as far as the eye could see! Take a trip into your nearest Apple store and ask to see someone and see how far that gets you. I owned a Nokia for 3 years and never had to see anyone about it...Apple's "it just works" myth is just that.
[Desire General] Whiterin:
What's with all the people on here going on about how the "amazing new specs blow any Android phone away"? It's got a 1ghz processor and 256mb of RAM. The only impressive and new thing about it is the screen, that's it. I for one was disappointed in seeing what the new phone had, I really expected more. To the people going on about how much better the specs are and how the UI is so good... have you actually ever looked at the specs or the UI? The specs on the new iPhone are nothing special in the current market, really. I hat thought they would release the new iPhone was specs superior to anything out currently...and all they released was a product with pretty normal specs. As far as the UI is concerned... its not amazing or the best laid out... the iPhone UI is horrible... I couldn't stand it even before I had used Android, its awful. I expected more from people on this forum, going on about thing that aren't even true, come on now. The only thing the new iPhone has done that's new, special, and above the cut from everything else is the screen...

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[Desire General] cez10:
your right, apple success is due to the marketing, many normal people who doesnt go on forums like this one etc, they buy whats popular and 'good', and because everyone now is talking about 'how amazing' the new iphone is, mass of people will buy it, a couple of them will buy something else after doing proper research, reading reviews and that
[Desire General] rovex:
LIKES:

A4 CPU, its fast and has a good GPU. How long it will be good for is another matter. Dual core Snapdragon is very near..

High Res screen. Its true >300DPI is superb (i had a Nokia N90 with 308DPI).

New design. Much better, less girly and toy like.

DISLIKES:

Apple OS. Closed, limited, impersonal, dull. (A killer for me)

3.5 inch screen. High DPI is all but pointless on such a tiny screen. (A Killer for me)

No 3G video calling, despite having the hardware. Still not up to 2003 levels there Apple! Im sure it will be added as a new innovation next year...

5MP cam. Average only, not good enough for 2 years to come.

Will soon be outclassed in hardware by dual core 720P screened Androids.
[Desire General] brummiesteven:
I don't get the big commotion, it's a bog standard phone, nothing new, nothing "magical" and nothing "revolutionary".
[Desire General] Jasand:
What do you guys think about this? Apple forcing developers to only use there platform. Bold move or poor stategy?

http://www.pcworld.com/article/1939...pp_policy_unreasonable_and_unjustifiable.html
[Desire General] gogol:
If you want to know about Apple marketing genius, read this:

http://gawker.com/5558442/how-apple-tricks-you

Now, tell me ... how is that?
[Desire General] riz157:
There are few features which are better on the iphone then desire certainly, however it's not such a revoloutionary phone as apple makes it out to be. Alot of Hot air mixed with arrogance.

the following points are appealing, if we are too believe the hype.

The battery life is better

The screen resolution is better

More responsive and more accurate touch screen

Better camera

better video playback

better apps no doubt

better music player

superior sound

LOUDER

One of the major draw backs for me is the crappy UI, complete put's me off IPhone, I just can't get over that. Infact had my 3GS for less then a week got rid of it. Also Smaller screen and crappy internet experience.

If I had a choice between Iphone 4 and EVO I would definetly go for EVO but that's not going to happen as I live in the UK. :(
[Desire General] mijanous:
I was laughing so hard when i saw that "WOW check this out..." video from apple lol...just like u all say i stay with my desire either

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[Desire General] thingr:
Apple trying to further raise the walls around their garden just to keep anything Adobe out of Apple's playground I'd say. Plain silly IMHO.
[Desire General] TeCH-Guruz:
In my experience apples support and warrenty is second to none. I had the iphone 3g it developed a hairline crak next to the mute switch took it into the apple store and was replaced on the spot. Just before I sold my iphone I took it into the apple store due to it having a hairline crack next to the charge port and it was replaced instantly, so i could sell it as a brand new replacement from apple. I purchased a macbook from ebay when it got delievered royal mail must have thrown it about a bit took it to apple as it still had warrenty within 5 days they had replaced the mainboard and other parts all under warenty. Would htc replace the desire instantly due to a hairline crack??? In short probably not.
[Desire General] cez10:
heres what i think about it
[Desire General] zetsurin:
The iPhone 4 certainly looks like a killer for the iPhone 3G, that's for sure ;)
[Desire General] samac92:
Wow guys just because you use an Android phone doesn't mean you have to deny that the iPhone is better in some respects. Almost everything hardware wise about the new iPhone beats the Desire, why are you sitting here denying that? New phones comes out all the time, and obviously they are going to keep improving.

And you need to stop going on about Apple's "walled garden." seriously, unless there is something major you can do on on Android that you can't on the iPhone it makes no difference. There are far more apps to choose from on the iPhone, and all of them are better quality. Take the facebook app for example, on Android you can't even use chat. That is just one example.