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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Skrobel:
Strange. I had no overall problems with OCT 1.5 with default settings however "heavier" applications, like CorePlayer and AudioManager worked choppy.

Yesterday evening I've tried your settings and from 11 PM to 6 AM today I lost 30% of my battery. With all the connections and data switched off. Only idle state. I stopped the OCT in the morning, and up to now I lost 20% but with making phone calls and surfing net over WiFi... It seems like every phone reacts totally different and everybody should look for his own optimal setting...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Jackos:
Processor cores never where same... Different processor - different overclocking capabilities.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Skrobel:
True, true... Well, honestly I tried OCT mainly for fun. I wanted to have a look if my TP2 can really perform better. Indeed it can, but the difference is not critical.

On the other hand I counted on saving some battery thanks to dynamic clock setting. But I also can't notice any difference...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Jackos:
You don't modify the voltage, so the processor doesn't "feel" the love.

I agree with indagroove: OCT gives you ~10% performance boost (without dynamic clock settings).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] 5318008:
Have any statistics to back this up? Sounds pretty subjective to me.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Jackos:
Jepp, it is very subjective. Each processor core is different. Also ppl use different Rhodium models, roms whatever... That's why the benchmark tests give us various results. I ran a quick processor test using SK Tools and it gave me ~10% score increase.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] 5318008:
Lol. That doesn't sound subjective at all then, you've got the numbers right there. 10 percent it is. Yeah I remember from a little while back, people were getting slightly varying results with SK benchmark... as you say, variances in hardwafe manufacturing, different ROMs etc. I've got the vanilla HTC 6.5 flashed onto my T-Mobile Rhodium, and OCT helps quite a bit with the lag 6.5/2.5 introduced. My wife's model doesn't "feel" much faster because hers still has 6.1/2.1 which already feels pretty snappy at stock speeds.

Hey, on a different note, I hope a new version comes out soon. I still get the occasional SoD when I answer a call while programs are runningl, then try to hang up.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] bobzero:
Can any Fuze users share their OC results? I tried a few combinations but I seem to get lockups at mild OCs (e.g. @ 652)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Miami_Son:
Why don't you ask in the Fuze forum?:confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] bobzero:
As you probably know, this program supports more than just the Touch Pro2, Fuze and several other devices all use the same CPU.

Since this is the unofficial thread for this program, I think this is the best place to ask.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Miami_Son:
While that may be true, this is the TP2/Tilt2 forum and the chance that someone with Fuze knowledge just happening across this thread is slim. If not the Fuze forum then perhaps the WinMo forum would be a better choice.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] solarboy:
Thank you !

I've been running this for 24 hours after reading the whole of this post. What amazing work by all involved. My TP2 with 6.5 stock WWE ROM runs a treat now. I was sick to death of it's laggyness (never mentioned in the reviews I read for the device before I bought it). Nothing else comes close for me as I need a stylus and keyboard.

In the last 24hours no crashes at all except some when I was tuning the settings. I'm running at 710 with no dynamic clocking and my battery has lasted all day with some light browsing and other daily tasks.

THANK YOU THANK YOU and what a well mannered forum. Off to donate..laters
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] phixion35:
Installed and ran OCT-v1.5 last night and haven't had any issues. Right off the bat before O/C'ing the first time, I set the step# to 1 and ran it at the default 652MHz setting. Set the phone to sleep for a few using the power button, woke up just fine. Everything functioned as it should, except snappier than normal. =) Bumped up to 672 and tested and then finally to 691MHz where I'm currently running, all without issue and adjusting any other settings further. Phone is running great, haven't gotten any calls yet though. I installed to my SD card and currently activate it through the GUI manually, I set an icon for it in my Programs tab on TF3D though. Running mine on an HTC Pure which has the MSM7201A CPU.

One question I have, with mine set to a step of 1, is there any way to get it to stay at the max speed a few seconds longer than it does before it idles down? Also what exactly is the interval ms setting for? I read the Readme.txt file, but didn't quite get that one... Anywho, I'm liking how my Pure runs with this O/C tweak tool. Much thanks to the creater! :)

Lastly, I run BattClock 3.1.0 on my phone, and it works great with OCT as it can display the CPU speed in real time on ANY screen of the phone, no additional program required or firing up the GUI to know what speed the CPU is at any given time...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] sbonnick:
Backup settings with XDA_UC

Hi,

Im currently looking to back up my OCT Settings to use with XDA_UC. Is there a registry location I can dump for this? or an static file (*txt, or simular)

Thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] dky500:
Try HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\OCT
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] phixion35:
Should have tested more fully first. At my settings (everything default except running at 691.2MHz and step# 1) my phone got the SoD after a phone call... :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] phixion35:
Read back 20 some-odd pages back up to this most recent page... Sounds like for SoD issues, it's more of a dynamic clocking issue than a too fast of speed issue... 691.2MHz that I was running at doesn't sound too fast of speed, some said it's like 27% increase? Well anywho, what I was thinking was maybe at idle/standby, throttle the phone back to the stock 528MHz and then back up to max-O/C speed when at load. I'd reason to think that should thwart SoD's especially during phone calls as CPU would never drop below default speed? Just an idea I was having. Also wanted to answer this preavious comment in this thread for referance to my exact problem to hopefully help the creator...

My phone is an HTC Pure running to stock factory AT&T ROM. Hard Rest the phone about 2 weeks ago when something corrupted on the phone. I've never installed NetRipper's app before. I'm AM running with dynamic switching and only got an SoD when making a phone call. NO SoD from any other function. I tested playing movies, and even a couple games.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] StZ's:
Same problem, on my TP2 with Energy ROM, but for me, the solution is to run OCT with the following settings:

CPU max: 710,4

# steps: 0

I'm testing it for a month now, and there is no SoD, when making phone calls, after phone calls, running iGO, or any other apps. It doesn't even drains the battery more than with stepping on, or without OCT.

I have a question too: is there a chance to harm my phone, when I put it to a too high CPU speed? I know, that it may freeze, or become unstable, but a soft reset and setting to a lower speed solves the problem. Is overheating, or hardware damage possible?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] solarboy:
1 week later...

Still running at 710mhz, still no SOD ! I haven't even had to soft re-boot yet.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] porkenhimer:
I have been runnin MSM7KCPUSPEED on my TILT 2 for months at 768MHz without a problem. Fast but the other day I found a program called GfxBoost1.2 that makes a lot of programs seem even faster. GfxBOOST makes SENSE2.5 run smoother than I have ever seen and combined with MSM7KCPUSPEED its blazin fast.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Miami_Son:
From Chainfire's own thread on this: Update: it may still have _some_ effect with the Topaz, but I don't think anyone has seen any improvement with the Rhodium, so don't bother Seems the drivers on those devices are quite a bit faster already than the older MSM7K devices
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] porkenhimer:
you are right some people may not get any affect using GfxBoost but i did. if u read my post i said it worked for me & maybe it will work for others. even in your post it says it "may" not work but that also means it may work.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Miami_Son:
Actually, he clearly says there may be some improvement on the Topaz, but that no Rhodium owners reported any. I've also read where it caused problems on some devices.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] IMissPalmOS:
Strictly speaking, yes, it is possible, but as a practical matter it is highly unlikely to damage your CPU before its useful life is over anyway. The process that damages it is known as electromigration. Google it for lots of info on the subject, or just trust me when I say that since OCT does not increase the CPU voltage, it would take a long, long time to do any permanent damage.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] phixion35:
Also to add to that, I do believe it's constant increased heat that causes said damage. Thos program that I've noticed thus far does NOT seem to create any extra out of ordinary heat. If it did, we'd all be seeing blazing fast battery drain, which most of us do not. I beleive the guy many many pages back that did a voltage test on stock speed vs. O/C speed also did a temp test as well and didn't notice any significant differance...?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] iwfratz:
Hi !

There were some question about further development and a timeline for the next release(s). Here is my statement:

I am still alive and working on OCT 2.0.

I have a running proof of concept which does not need any action to be taken for suspending, resuming or anything else. Set your speed and forget it.

That should be the end of SODs.

I do not know how long it will take, because there is a lot of work to do, but no big problems to solve.

Thanks a lot to all using OCT, giving feedback and answering question in this thread.

Last but not least: thank you for donating (even if you are very few)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Monfro:
You are great!!

Thank you for all the efforts you put in this wonderful piece of software!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] thx1200:
Awesome! As soon as I get a SOD-free OC'er, a nice healthy donation will be on your way. :-) I like OCT so far, but even with the most conservative settings (604Mhz, no dynamic anything, etc.) it still SODs about once every 2-3 days, which I can't really afford as my phone is critical to me to remind me of meetings and appts. I would miss them all if my phone SOD'ed and didn't chirp at me. ;-)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Clark789:
Hi iwfratz,

thanks a lot for this terrific little prog. It works with absolute no problems on my Topaz and i love it.

I'm very curious, which improvements are possible, if version 2.0 will come...

Great work!

Regards

Clark
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] -Jonny-:
This is great. I am loving this OCT. The only problem I have is when I am listening to music and the device goes from active to sleep whilst still playing - there is a freeze. This may be ROM specific and I am testing further.

Where is your donate button? Perhaps this is why there are very few! (Can't see it in your signature)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] iwfratz:
This freeze is already known and traceable. It cannot be solved in OCT 1.x, but in next version (will be renamed to WiMoSpeed).

My donate button is at the OCT download-post. But you are right here is my signature with donate-button. Feel free to use it !! :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] xilpaxim:
this is very exciting and hopeful news. i am willing to donate $10.

also regarding what type pf software this should be, i think taking the bounty then making it donorware at first is best, then when it is ready for a 1.x release it would be cool to change to shareware, with the free part being maybe 10% overclock
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] buru898:
Donorware is the same thing as it being a paid for program. I mean, he's getting a lot of free money as is if he manages a stable overclocker (and the people pay up) and I'm sure even more people would donate money but it isn't fair for the people who can't "donate" money for the program.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] shaolin95:
You seriously think someone with one of this phones at least cannot donate 5 bucks? I mean come on now...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] 5318008:
2 cents

I think 20-percent-plus of stock speed, while maintaining stability, is a reasonable overclocking goal.

As someone who's frequently poor and frequently downloads, I think freeware or shareware would be ideal, but I also realize that a software author has a reasonable right to expect some fruits for their labors.

Mostly it's for the benefit of all Rhodium owners that I'm willing to donate, but I agree with most general points everyone's put out so far as to what they'd like to see.

Ultimately, I'd be happy with anything over stock, if it's reliable, whether it costs money or not.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] cajunflavoredbob:
"Beta testers"

First off, I'd put $10 towards this.

Secondly, to solve the issue of the donors paying twice, why not do some sort of "beta testing" with the app when it's ready? All those who donated would get a free full version of the app and report their feedback before a general release.

I think the utility itself would be worth about $10. I would have no problem paying for such a useful and needed program. I suppose the price also depends a bit on the features of it. If's there's a fancy-shmancy GUI and even automatic scaling-to-load, then I wouldn't take issue paying more for better features.

shaolin95 made a good point saying that if someone can afford this phone, a mere $10 or $20 shouldn't be that bad.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Alcibiade:
Lots of talking here... And no begining of a technical solution...

You can try nue_dynamicclock, the problem is he never went to the ned of the project. You should probably email nue and propose to pay him to finish it

ideally a tool allowing underclocking + undervolting when the processor is not used much would allow longer battery life. And then we could hope to overclock automatically when necessary

But again, have a look at nue's thread as well as his website. It's nice to see so many excited thredas, but as long as you don;t get some technical opinion about the feasibility, it remains wishful thinking...

*** Edit: actually I missed the fact 2 or 3 posts were mentioning nue's job

It is possible to adjust the frequency of the processor from TP2 under Android, so it's likely to be possible under WM... Just need to develop the right software

What could be interesting would be to ask people who are loading Android on the TP2 (and it works) to test the overclocking application with their TP2
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] stcardinal:
Call me confused but didn't someone already find a way to overclock the TP2? I read somewhere on here that it can safely goes to 768 and not crash.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] BASSMANBOB:
Heres an update on my behalf...my mothers boyfriend is a genius, he has a PHD in mathematics and regularly programs and does hardware as well. He has agrred to work on this and he believes he can succesfully do it as long as he can have the msm7200a datasheet( the 900 page long one!) This guy can do this! If someone can find this datasheet then i would be able to get it to him and we can get our overclocking! Im currently out of town and doing this from my phone so if someone can download the file from 4pda.ru and send me a pm i can get it to him faster! Thank you so much and for all the folks in the US happy independence day!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] mech_supernova:
I think I got it the files called 80-VA736-2+Rev[1].B+MSM7200+Software+Interface+Manual its 910 pages long PM me your email address and i'll email it to you
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] thx1200:
I'll add $10 to the bounty.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] BASSMANBOB:
im getting back home tomorrow afternoon so ill be updating the new size of the bounty then...fyi! And great stuff going on guys! We are going to get this done! I have two potential programs in the pipeline with one that i will be testing tomorrow! Its because of you guys that this has happened and I thank you, as do all the TP2 owners on XDA! Keep it up!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] wisedesi:
It is done on android platform, I am using Frodo 2.2 and it is stable at 768 and fast. I am not sure how to do that in windows though.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] BASSMANBOB:
Frodo 2.2- the fastest mobile OS in middle earth!...sorry, couldnt resist...lol
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] wspaw:
Would be great...!

I'll go $10.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] iwfratz:
@gjcamp: Thanks for your thoughts.

@Alcibiade: do you expect a technical discussion while a bounty is set to a functional overclocking app ? really ? :eek:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] iwfratz:
Report on work progress

I got a solution to overclock to ~750Mhz !!! The stability problems I encountered before has been solved so far. It is developed on a stock TP2 (WM6.5) with MSM7200A, but should work on other MSM72xx processors also.

First I have to rewrite the code into a simple application. The first release will be fixed to 633 Mhz (~2 MFlops measured with Linpack-WinCE-ARMV4I compared to ~1,65 MFlops at 528MHz) to prevent instability and "app sucks" reports.

Next I will release the app with a GUI to set the CPU speed up to ~750Mhz (over- and underclocking), then overclocking above 750Mhz if possible and later maybe a dynamic clock depending on cpu load. Wishes are welcome.

The newest release will be given to all donator on the list. I think you should get the app first. Please test the app and report here. (and please remind your bounty :D)

Older versions will published to all in a thread I will create later. Donation will be welcomed all the times.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Balajee:
Wow thats really good news. 633 is still better than 528 :)

I will test and let you know as soon as I can download it. Will donate soon as I see that it works
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Balajee:
Sorry double post
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] mech_supernova:
put me down for $20
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] dj_doeboy:
Android 3.0 will also be renamed from Gingerbread to Gandalf! haha...

Put me down for $10!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] -Jonny-:
Thanks iwfratz :), looking forward to WiMoSpeed. small donation given ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] phixion35:
Hello iwfratz. Firstly, most excellent program you have here. Nice and stable. I'm currently running 691MHz with NO dynamic settings, except my MS interval is at 1000 since I can't bring up the keyboard to change it when in the GUI. Once thing I notice, is that the phone sleeps and then I wake it with the power button, I notice the speed is climbing up. It will very quickly (using BattClock in the taskbar to show the CPU speed in realtime) climb from 2 numbers... Usually I'll see it climbing from 480MHz, but I did catch it once at 0MHz for a split second... Does the CPU completely clock out when the phone is sleeping? My understanding was that phone is always O/C with no dynamics... It's not causing me any issues, just something I noticed and was curious about. Thank you again for a wonderful program, I too am looking forward to WinMoSpeed.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] wmg316:
Will you post "WiMoSpeed" in this thread? If not, will you post a link in this thread directing us to your new app?

Thanks!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Paul-E:
Awesome work iwfratz. OCT 1.5 seems to be working great; no issues so far.

Next round is on me (97277058TS183350W).

Thank You,

Paul
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] cbronson41:
You can change the interval by using your slide out keyboard, assuming you are using a Touch Pro 2 or similar device. Thats what I do anyways:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] iwfratz:
WiMo Power Manager works with power states (suspended, resuming, user idle, backlight off, ...) and clocks down CPU when going into suspend and stop the CPU in suspend mode.

Dynamic stepping in OCT means that CPU frequency is set depending on the actual CPU load if not suspended, but OCT does not change the behaviour of wimo power manager.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] iwfratz:
No, I think WiMoSpeed deserves an own thread in a forum not only for Rhodium.

And yes of cause I will post here a link to the new thread. What do you think !?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Jackos:
Definitely.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] phixion35:
Makes sense iwfratz. :)

cbronson41: Unfortunately i have the Tilt2's brother, the Pure so no slide-out keyboard here. :( Not sure if it has anything to do with me using Swype though, lol!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] longu:
Hi!

I have Garmin-Asus M10 with MSM7227 CPU. I tried OCT, but it says:

"Could not connect to OCT0:" after launching OCT_Run.exe and "could not open connection to OCT!" when launching OCT_GUI.exe ;-(

Does it even suppose to work on MSM7227?

Regards.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] buru898:
Give the program a try and see what happens lol. Just be sure to not have it auto-speed during startup.

I'm excited that development of this is still going on :D! Can't wait for WinMoSpeed!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] u2rock:
I have 6.5 Stock ROM and would like to use OCT V1.5. What is the current speed of the CPU without overclocking and what is the speed after enabling overclocking on TP2?

Also I just need to install OCT_V-1.5.cab on my phone and I am good to go?

Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] cajunflavoredbob:
Have a read HERE. All your questions shall be answered. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] dky500:
On my TP2 the speed without OCT is 528 Mhz.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Unilqadium:
Guys. Just installed OCT on my new TP2, and also have issues with SOD while playing music on WMP or Nitrogen, when dynamic underclocking is on. "No way" on fresh machine with clear OS. I´m sad with it, and will try to install older version.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] andrew-in-woking:
HTC Touch Pro2 at 729.6 MHz

Hi all

I have installed the Overclock Tool by iwfratz on my HTC Touch Pro2. The device is running the 4th November Beta of the Simplicity ROM, WM 5.2.21683.5.3.10. Here are my OCT settings:

CPU max: 729.6

# steps: 5

load max: 30

load min: 25

jump max: 50

jump min: 3

The device works very well, is noticably quicker than with stock clock speed and is extremely stable with this ROM.

Very useful application.

Cheers

andrew-in-woking
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] buru898:
It's been discussed before, but it's better to turn off dynamic clocking (Set the interval to 0, default is 1000) because the voltage is the same underclocked or overclocked which means no battery saving/wasting either way.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] pvillegeek:
Processors only really use current when the transistors switch. So the faster the transistors have to switch the more current that is used, regardless of the voltage.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] agrickard:
Soft-reset and try again - I get that occaisonally when very low on RAM I think or after using cleanRAM or a soft-reset. Another soft-reset usually sorts it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Paul-E:
2 weeks and not a single issue

I've been running OCT 1.5 on my Tilt 2 for about 2 weeks now and I haven't run into a single issue.

729 MHz , 0 steps

thanks again iwfratz.

Paul
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] longu:
Thanks for the tip, but after soft reset it's the same. Maybe the problem is that in my M10 there is TOO MUCH free RAM (I have 240MB free)?

Regards