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[EVO 4G General] MagnusRagnarok:
@ this point in time, the way i feel about apple,windows and atnt, Id rather have a bricked hero than support apple/atnt by purchasing anything from THAT merchandising nightmare. I find it sooooo unbeleivable that 90% of the mobile phone users in the world are uneducated TECHnically speaking. To remind you in case no one has: WE ARE THE MINORITY......the ones that know enough to get the most for our money in a device such as this. My hero put away any thoughts i ever had about using my ipwnd ever again after 2hrs of use. OK i lied, its a pretty good wi fi browser:D....but are YOU gonna throw your old perfectly functioning iphone away? Back to topic....Apple is like a giant plague infecting the (oooh, imma get an iphone because......ummm everyone i know has one?????????) masses. Man we need more android commercials. Im practically one myself. So sad that ppl still have the MOTO DROID confused with the ANDROID OS......ppl are soo dumb, no offense to those ppl. Just stating some facts, and this is in fact, MY OPINION.​
[EVO 4G General] mrmomoman:
I would say the EVO 4G as a great Iphone replacement but not an Iphone killer. There is no need to make an Iphone killer per se. Iphone and the market place they have created will be very very difficult to beat. There are loyalists that won't leave and there are users that don't want to learn a new OS. Android is best served to try and capture the uninitiated.

Heavy texters loves blackberry and blackberry has done a tremendous job catering to them. The new bold 9800 slider will keep their text heavy base of users.

It's good to have this diversity in this market space. I moved away from Iphone as well but it doesn't mean I can't appreciate their products. I really like android and will continue to use it. Windows mobile 7 will also make my list of things to try. Can't wait.
[EVO 4G General] demandarin:
Come on now people. Why people still caring about the "Iphone killer" ideology? The iphone been killed IMO. We know iphone is a simple interface, dumbed down device anyone can use. Yall's EVO, is light years ahead of Iphone as far as functionality. Remember, no restrictions with Android. Iphone OS, u basically can't do squat off tops. U have to hack it. Android is very customizable right out the box. Iphone had its day already. My tilt 2 blows iphone away. The evo and few others with snapdragon, have just changed the whole game up. Especially with Android on the rise so rapidly now. The new wm7 mobile is now basically copying iphone styles and methods. Of being simple as hell and not letting u do nothing customizable or being able to go into the internal system of it. WM hads its day. The Rise of the Machines has Begin. Android

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[EVO 4G General] thorpe24:
I dont like being told what to do with something I own So yeah it's an iphone killer to me. and to the guy complaining about the keyboard download swype it's amazing and revolutionary.
[EVO 4G General] liquidkernel:
As pointed out, it doesn't have to be a killer. I believe the iPhone and Android phones can coexist in this exciting new mobile world. My friend switched from an iPhone to the Evo and he loves it. But then again, he's a Linux and electronics geek like me, so the phones appeal to us.

The Evo 4G is without a doubt the best Android rendition yet, but there are some things that iPhone does better.

As far as text editing, the new way of selecting and copying text within emails and websites is AMAZING. Being able to easily select the start and end is brilliant.
[EVO 4G General] Jus10o:
I dont know if anyone has mentioned this. But there are tons of keyboards out there for android. You arent limited to the stock keyboard. Its extremely easy to switch between them as well. So anyone holding the keyboard against google, htc or anyone is just plain stupid (not saying the person i quoted is). Almost every app that comes with the phone can be replaced my a "3rd party" one (assuming htc is the main). So people that complain about an app on the phone is obviously new to android.

I would make a post about this but it would just start a huge arguement/discussion. It seems everyone *****ing about the Evo are people coming from an iphone or just Att in general. I havent seen anyone that complained about something say what alternatives that tried to fix the issue. Its just if the phone isnt what they expected out of the box, they cry about it.
[EVO 4G General] thorpe24:
Dont need nothing but swype, and I can't imagine using it on a screen any smaller than this. Is swype even on iphone? Out really is a revolutionary way to type on touchscreen devices.
[EVO 4G General] bluehaze:
iPhone was amazing back in it's day it was ahead of it's time and there was nothing else like it problem is it hasn't really advanced much at all since its been around so it will die out eventually. No phone is ever going to kill it though just because it has a huge customerbase already established. People are still using Motorola Razors and other phones some people will continue to use the iPhone forever as well regardless of how outdated it continues to become.

It's definitely lost it's crown though the EVO is undeniably better in just about every way. iPhone feels ancient when put next to the EVO LOL
[EVO 4G General] ian3047:
Why is it every time a phone comes out people ask if it's "the iphone killer". Just the mention of that very thing is feeding the nerds and trendy type who get it because they are made to believe it is the center of the universe to begin with. At this point in time no matter what andriod, windows phone, or webos does they won't be able to compare to apples following and trendy factor. Apple is in a situation where they can market anything with an "i" in front of it's name, play some trendy music and make a pile of cash. Why worry about it?
[EVO 4G General] Kshawn:
I to too am getting tired of this iPhone killer nonsense...you don't hear the apple fan boys or just "normal" folks to use the iPhone question if the iPhone an evo killer visa versa. Marketing for the iPhone plays a major part as well. The first wave of htc's you you and you commercials actually prompt me to go out and buy an htc device then fell in love with android trough association.

The sheep will follow what other sheep will to fit in or think its cool...maybe it is in fact cool to them or what ever. I don't knock apple and what they do. Although I have to question some of my friends...my home girl wants an ipad so i take her to test one out, Her exact words "omg its like a giant ipod touch" i so want it. She dished out the 500+ for the 3g...why? because she thinks its the coolest thing ever and her girlfriend's all have one.

All in all...let a phone be what it is. choice is a great thing. who ever misses out let em.
[EVO 4G General] hayaticik:
I had iPhone 3g and was using 3gs till yesterday. But its yesterdays news.

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[EVO 4G General] Classick206:
Nothing will ever kill the iPhone. I had the iPhone 3G and left for the Evo but not because I thought the Evo was the better phone. The only things that the Evo has over the iPhone 3GS are the HDMI output, and kick stand. Both of those things are completely useless and are just added perks. The iPhone HD will have a flash and HD, and the 3GS has the best camera on the market by miles so I'd imagine the HD will be even better. The camera on the Evo is ridiculously grainy. Let's not forget that the iPhone 3GS has the nicest looking display on the market (or at worst second to the Incredible).

iPhone OS blows away Android. iPhone OS is much simpler to use, much more customizable once it's jailbroken, the keyboard is so much better than Androids that its hilarious and appalling at the same time. App Store is much better than Android Market due to the head start of the iPhone.

The ultimate proof that the iPhone will forever be immortal is this... the 3GS came out in 2009 and we're still trying to find a "killer" for it when the HD is already around the corner. The Evo has a couple cool gimmicks like the kickstand and HDMI out but when you really break it down... it's just a really big phone with the same internal features are every other phone coming out now. Snapdragon processor? Seen it. 1GB of internal memory? Give me a break, what is this? 2008? I shouldn't be forced to go out and buy 16GB of memory.
[EVO 4G General] danknee:
I just wanted to comment about the keyboard to say that the Swype keyboard makes every Iphone user at work want to put their phone in the garbage can. To my knowledge Swype isn't available for the Iphone, but it is the best keyboard I've used on a phone and the typing speed is amazing (once acclimated). The only downside to it is that one thumb texting is so easy that it makes me think I can text safely while driving (watch out).

One reason that I never got an Iphone was the appalling difference in monthly cost between AT&T and Sprint with similar features.

Anyway, I like that the Iphone exists and I think competition is healthy and beneficial for both sides of the fence.
[EVO 4G General] Jus10o:
Please read the past post about what the Iphone operating system is and what the android operating system is. Both are completely different. You sound like ever other Iphone fanboy out there.

Also the "much more customizable part" made be laugh really hard. If android not rooted can be extremely customizable, no 2 android phones will look the same unless someones runnning stock everything. Root the android phone and theres not a single thing you cant change, literally. Oh and we also have source to it all. So we can change the code within the files.
[EVO 4G General] a_swellguy:
This is funny as all hell... I've had the iPhone since day one and was a app tester for programs on cydia. I own a macbook imac and is iPhone. I bought the evo and I'm not looking back. Hands down best phone to date.

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[EVO 4G General] toenail78:
i dont find the iphone to be customizable at all for the fact the the only difference from every iphone i find around 10 is simply their cases.. in my opinion i think android would have the upperhand because you can have two android devices side by side and they can look completely different with so many backgrounds and widgets to add... i have to agree, anyone that says the iphone is more customizable has to be a fanboy cause i find that to be completely false... i think the only reason the iphone does so well is strickly because its an apple product and you have those that think they are gods just for owning one.. seems to me apple is running out of ideas because you have so many different generations of the iphones and they are look the same including the oversized one called an ipad, theres something i will never understand.. i thought that was going to be a flop but it seems to be doing so well.. but dont take my word for anything because i can honestly say im just a google fanboy, anything google i find to be genius.. google maps, google listen, google goggles, the list goes on and on, everything is just awesome in my eyes.. fanboy talk
[EVO 4G General] afma_afma:
just a note.

the evo 1 ghz snapdragon is the processor type inside the phone and 1 ghz is its capacity..meaning processing power.

it comes with 8gb micro sd card.

"IPhone HD will have flash"....apple is not working with adobe to incorporate flash into iphone, instead they are taking a different route which might be the future(it is called as html 5)...and using HTML 5 is not going to happen as of now, it is going to take a while...right now it is flash through adobe, which is not gona happen with apple..so basically no flash in Apple HD.

and yeah multi tasking in apple HD is a Joke..bascially lets you view previously used apps/feature and lets you select it...this is not mulitasking..this is not even close..

i can keep going...nevermind...:)
[EVO 4G General] wildcard:
No it better not be an iPhone killer... because then it would just be another iPhone. this phone is not for the iPhone crowd..
[EVO 4G General] engineer14:
Let me start off by saying I AM NOT ANY PRODUCT SPECIFIC FANBOY. I AM SIMPLY AN ELECTRONICS ENTHUSIAST. I do not understand why anything has to be an iphone killer. Yes iphone does suck to me but that doesnt quite change the fact that it is a revolutionary phone. Before the iphone, noone ever thought about finger friendly touch screens. We all brought our styluses out whenever we needed to do something, and when we lost it, we used any sharp object (not too sharp) we could find. We all had these bulky phones (htc wizard 8125) that we could see a mile away. iphone changed all that.

if you like you can think of it like this:

give a dehydrated man in the middle of a desert gold (EVO), or give him water(iphone), which will he take?

BY THE WAY, EVO ROCKS, HTC ROCKS AND IPHONE IS SOME EXPENSIVE ASS WATER

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My phones:

Nokia 1100

Motorola Mpx 220 (windows mobile 2003 smartphone edition)

Tmobile sidekick I (big downgrade for winmo)

HTC 8125

nokia 2400 (or some crap phone like that)

nokia 2400 (lost the first one)

HTC 8925

soon to be: HTC HD2 or Samsung Galaxy S
[EVO 4G General] Classick206:
Of course they're completely different, which is why you'll never see me making an "iPhone vs Any OS" thread. Every OS is different in their own way and comparing them is stupid. Android is a more "techy" OS that appeals more to the ... well... nerd (not in a derogatory way). The problem with your statement is that the Android being rooted is no different than the iPhone being JB'd. You can easily say that no two jailbroken iPhones look alike when owned by well informed tech nerds. Have you seen the endless amount of skins for the iPhone OS? Probably not.

An unrooted Android really isn't THAT customizable. You can add widgets, rearrange icons, and change wallpapers. You can do all of that in iPhone OS.

I'm not a fan of comparing any phone to the iPhone, because it is too unique. I just felt like giving my two cents.

I know what a Snapdragon processor is and what a GHz is. 8GB is still not much considering the iPhone 3GS came with 16 and 32 GB- without having to go out and buy that memory at a local best buy. When I said flash, I meant flash as in camera flash. Personally, I think multitasking is really over rated and there truly is no need for it. I think that people are expecting too much from a phone. Multitasking, flash in web pages? Two completely unnecessary and battery life killing functions. I know that once Froyo comes out for the Evo, officially, I still won't be using Flash. And listening to music while I browse the web or use other data functions is all the multitasking I need- which the iPhone already has.
[EVO 4G General] engineer14:
just gonna put this out there Windows Mobile with no 'rooting' is still the most customizable of all platforms..By quite a ways
[EVO 4G General] SPENONE:
Holy ****, people are still looking for the iPhone killer?...LOL.

Who cares people. One of the best things about life, is choices. Iphone or Android...pick the one you like best and STFU, enjoy your day.
[EVO 4G General] hchavarria:
The two phones are very different, the one thing I never understood is why HTC still forces us to use SD cards instead of higher flash memory. If we continue to Chase for the iPhone killer we will be chasing for a long time because of the OS. The iPhone can be customized once jailbroken and can multitask once jailbroken too. I left the 3GS to try Evo but might switch back once the iPhone is announced next week.
[EVO 4G General] impactsto:
The wifey and I just switched on Friday. I had a 3GS she had a 3G. Our main reason was not the phones but rather AT&T and their awful service.

With the being said the phone is awesome. The iPhone is definitely more elegant. Things feel more refined on it. It has also been around longer than android has. The iPhone is able to reach many people because you can pick it up and everything is right there. There are no force quits, crazy errors, or things you have to hack to make it work. It really does just work. That's why my mother in law, who never used a computer till 2 years ago, can use an iPhone like a pro.

My wife complained that the Evo is harder to use than the iPhone. She is right. Between menus with different contexts and long presses that do different things in different situations, it certainly is not as easy as the iPhone. What you get in return is a super powerful handset that has a carrier that works better than AT&T. Will the new iPhone be awesome? I'm sure it will. Good luck people on AT&T. Think you service sucks now? Wait till 3 million more people are hogging up the airways.

To me, android is growing up now, just like the iPhone did. Before the 3G and the app store there was nothing real special about the first gen iPhone. It was sleek but needed work. That's where android is right now. We are at the edge of android becoming something special. I think with the resources google has, the engineers and developers, and their OCD with making things better, android will definitely be in good shape.

When the G1 came out I got it day one. I unlocked it and used it on AT&T for months. That's how much I wanted to like android. Instead I felt like a beta tester. The original os was so unpolished that to compare it to anything was unfair. The ideas were there. It just needed time. Now I play with the evo and it's not even in the same galaxy. This feels like how a high end phone should. Google, HTC, and our loving modders will make this phone, and future ones, an even more incredible piece of kit.

Only thing to do now is sit back, enjoy your phone, and wait for the goodness.
[EVO 4G General] afma_afma:
huh...

I thank Apple to race the smartphone capability...showing others the way "how future smartphone should be"

this made others race their level of hardware technicality....

saying that...

Technology keeps changing(keeps increasing) for every 6 or 12 months....

i am confident that 6 months from now there will be something better than the Evo 4g itself...this is how it goes...

Android based phones has its own way of doing things

Iphone has its own way of doing things

Android => Open Source (allows you to get more than you expect)

Iphone => Closed(gives you less, makes you pay more)

And we the consumer choose what we prefer..

Moreover choosing between the above two depends upon consumers

1. preference

2. consumer's acceptability of what they are getting..

3. finally.....this we cannot do anything about and this is handling the magic spell casted by apple....

I was under the spell, and so got the iphone 2g 16gb, but after understanding how things work, what i can do with rooted windows mobile or an android mobile, i quickly came out of that magic spell, and dumped apple...no more apple..

this is just my thought...cheers...
[EVO 4G General] afma_afma:
i get it mate...the iphone suits all your needs well then...

there others here who want a little more than a slice of pizza....just little more functionality...this need differs between people...

good to know that the iphone suits all your needs...:)
[EVO 4G General] blehzz:
my wife switched from an iPhone 3G to my old Hero (i got the EVO since it's too big for her small hands).

she is in love. i can only imagine what a 3G -> EVO would feel like!
[EVO 4G General] Classick206:
Why is it that people can't form an argument these days without using the word bias, fanboy, or anything else of that nature? What ever happen to me just having an OPINION? I've never said that Android sucks, Evo sucks, or anything like that. Android OS and the Evo are both great products- which is why I own an Evo and not an iPhone at the moment. The HDMI out is a nice feature, but how many people do you think are actually going to use it? Same goes for the kickstand. The kickstand is nice so you can look over at your friend and say "Hey, can your phone do this?" then plop out the kickstand.

And what exactly is wrong with iTunes? I can't stand that people turn their nose at the program like if it were some malware infested program. iTunes is an absolute pleasure to work with and it makes transferring files easy for anyone with the ability to work a mouse.

If you were to take away both markets, the iPhone OS would still be better. It has a much simpler to use interface, which is obviously going to appeal more to the casual consumer who are the majority in the cell phone market. Running both OS's stock, the only things that the Android OS really has over iPhone would be widgets (which aren't even a part of the Android OS- they're under Sense UI), and the notification bar

. What's funny is that if you head over to the 'Post your theme' thread, you'll see a lot of people organizing their app icons to resemble the iPhone OS.

I've got to tell ya, I've never met a single person who carries around extra cell phone batteries with them, so I can't really say that detachable batteries are a make or break deal. The iPhone has always had better battery life than most phones, and they charge up relatively fast. My Evo takes hours to reach 100%. I would like detachable batteries just so I can upgrade to an extended life, like I plan to with the Evo, but not having one really isn't as big of a deal as some people make it out to be.

Let me ask you something, let's assume that the Evo isn't as big as it is and it has a standard resolution about the size of the iPhone. How impressive is it then? The actual display itself isn't much to brag about, as the Incredible has a much nicer once. The Evo display doesn't seem as crisp as the iPhone 3GS, nor as colorful.

And having 8MP is nice, but not if the camera isn't even on par with the iPhones. I'd hope you can admit that the iPhone has had one of the better cameras to date. The Evo's camera is really underwhelming.

"If you really have one." Seriously? :rolleyes: I will infact be returning my Evo if I decide that either dealing with Sprint's laughable excuse for coverage isn't worth it, or if Jobs pulls off a miracle with the iPhone HD.