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[XPERIA X10 General] Bikram:
Ok we might not be getting Android 2.2 by this year or before the end of next year, but guess what sony is making, "X10 pro". It has 5inch screen with a keyboard and probably be running on Android 2.2. So the reason why we are not getting updates soon is because they are working on this new upcoming phone. This phone will come out by 2012 (when every other phone will have Android 3.9 and 4g).

So if there are any other suckers for sony left, please start getting exited for this new cool phone.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/04/sony-ericsson-prepping-a-5-inch-android-phone-with-qwerty-keyboa/
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
Dude. Chill.

A rumor based on a fuzzy picture.

Get a grip on reality.

Also, do you really think SE has like 10 people working for it, and they can only work on one thing at a time?
[XPERIA X10 General] QuadESL63:
It says it will come out in the Fall (this year). If they were to release the Pro with 2.1 may be we would get the update by then too?

By 2012 we should have a couple of different X30's :D
[XPERIA X10 General] brunswick000:
Yeah F! SE! Ive given up on hoping with them. Ive convienced myself to just love my phone for what it is right now. My hopes are higher for root then these "updates" we are supposed to be getting. And to be honest im not sure id be interested in a phone that required a shoulder bag to carry it in......manly or not :-)

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[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] a_hungk:
:) I'm new to this , i was going to root my hero but i don't know which rom to use.

Which one is the more stable?

ty
[EVO 4G General] DiNoise:
Ok, so I was really interested in getting Evo this friday.. but now I decided to wait...

I watched a video of Samsung Galaxy S showing crazy neocore score, smooooth 3d shooting game, and multitouch test compared to HTC phone..

So I really wanna know now how HTC Evo is compared to some devices:

1. How is battery life with regular use (no 4g, no wifi, no gps on, medium brightness, 20-40 mins talk, some txting/gtalk, light web browsing)? Compared to other HTC phones?

Edit: Other thread has some reviews about it, but I still wonder if it's possible to get 14-18 hours with some web browsing and texting/gtalk.

I know Samsung will have much better battery life cuz of sAmoled screen.

2. How is multitouch test using market app compared to Galaxy S video? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVlsRCMltDg).. yes, I know it's worse on Evo cuz of its double screen, but how bad?

3. How is audio quality (mp3 music) compared to iPod? (I know iPod is not a standard to compare to but at least I'll have an idea). And how loud is speaker (ringers) compared to any other HTC phones?

Since Galaxy S should come to Sprint too sometimes this summer (based on rumors) I'm kinda considering it...

Yes I know Samsung SUCKS for its support.. And I dont like GalaxyS's look and its UI (reminds me of some ugly phone...)

BUT I can deal with the look and just use home replacement, and I dont care about 4G, AS LONG AS its hardware kills EVO (better battery life, screen, PROCESSOR FASTER THAN SNAPDRAGON, GRAPHICS, better audio quality)..

So don't get me wrong, I'm not dissing EVO (I love how it looks) but I just wanna hear your experience/comparison with this phone on those 3 main points.

Thank you all in advance
[EVO 4G General] Tenny:
First off... Not all HTC phones are created equally...

1. AMOLED is more hype than anything imo... The Nexus one certainly doesn't get that great of battery life. Plus at the end of the day, the display hardly is using any battery according to battery use... You should get a days life of battery w/o any issues if your usage is what you say.

2. That's an old Touch input sensor or whatever. The Evo does not face the same problems...

3. Audio Quality... sounds fine to me. The speakers on it... I don't know. At times it's quiet and other times it's loud I feel. I really haven't been able to narrow down why, but I do have a feeling it's my "custom" notification / ringtones that are the culprit. I feel my Hero is a tad bit louder still though.
[EVO 4G General] splicitysplat:
I cannot find out why this phone performed so much better than the other phones on neocore?!?!? The specs are the same.

Edit: Never mind, I found out about the hummingbird processor in the galaxy. I still would rather take the EVO as the galaxy,afaik, has no release date or carrier yet.
[EVO 4G General] mysterioustko:
Can't speak on the Evo specifically since I don't have it yet (I will in a few hours though lol), however I will say that I would definitely take an Evo over the Galaxy S. Yes the Galaxy S has the hummingbird processor which has a faster gpu, but that in my opinion is the one and only thing it has on the EVO. The Galaxy has that ugly ass touchwiz overlay on top of Android. Part of that overlay looks almost exactly like the iphone OS (not to mention the phone itself almost looks exactly like an iphone). I'd much rather have HTC sense than touchwiz any day of the week. Me living in a 4g market (Atlanta) also makes me more prone to purchase the EVO because now I will be able to discontinue using my Clear 4g dongle. Going back to the processing power, truth be told at this point in time I don't think the extra processing power of the Galaxy S really matters. I currently have the Nexus One which also has a 1ghz snapdragon processor (like the EVO) and I have no speed issues. Add to that the fact that Android 2.2 will be released soon and it has JIT enabled, speed really won't be an issue. I'd imagine you'd see the same responsiveness on both the Evo and the Galaxy S. Also don't forget the Galaxy S only has a 5 megapixel camera (compared to the Evo's 8) and a smaller screen than the EVO.

Galaxy S advantages:

faster processor

Galaxy S disadvantages:

smaller screen

5 megapixel camera

touchwiz interface

looks like an iphone knock off (opinion)

lacks 4g

made by Samsung lol
[EVO 4G General] mysterioustko:
The reason is that the gpu processes 90million triangles/sec as opposed to the nexus one's 22million triangles/sec (couldn't find the evo's specs on this)

Source: http://androidandme.com/2010/03/new...bird-chip-to-have-3x-gpu-power-of-snapdragon/
[EVO 4G General] DiNoise:
Well, Samsung claims their Super AMOLED is better in power consuming and brighter than regular AMOLED.. so I don't know if its really true or just bs.

So, is your EVO performing the same on that multitouch test as Galaxy S on the video?? I know EVO is supposed to have new touch sensors that are really good, but Im not sure how good they are, that's why I asked you guys to compare.

And did you compare audio quality to an iPod? (using same headphones of course) Because I still have a HTC Hero and it's a shame for HTC to come up with these smart phones that cannot even have same audio quality as iPod/iPhone, and I'm not even expecting them to be as good as Sony mp3 players (best audio quality consumer mp3 players on the market so far)

thanks for reply anyway.
[EVO 4G General] DiNoise:
Yes, you're right about GalaxyS's advantages (man, I hate that name..),

ALOT faster processor and GPU, and based on reviews pinch to zoom in web browser is smoother than on any Snapdragon phone, and I'm not even talking about 3d gaming..

But also SuperAmoled screen will give you extra battery life, and that would be a big plus for me, and 4inch screen is still big.

TouchWiz?? I dont care, I'm even tired of Sense, I'm using Helix Launcher, LauncherPRO and ADW Launcher..

Megapixels??? I'm a photographer, and if you didnt know Megapixels dont make your picture look better, lens and sensor does, I'm good even with 3mp.

4G?? Unfortunately it's not available yet in my area so I'll be tipping Sprint every month $10 for... hmm... nothing..

YES, it DOES look like APPLE CRAP... unfortunately..

So far this is their flagship phone, so hopefully they will provide all users with good support and be on time with Android updates...
[EVO 4G General] jmxp69:
I couldn't get rid of my Samsung Moment (with Amoled screen) fast enough due to the horrendous battery problems with that phone. The build quality well, it just sucked. The top slider flopped around. It felt like a toy compared to Droid.

Good luck whatever you do, I'm heading out now to get my Evo.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] skndeep102:
i just rooted my phone and everything was fine i then decided to install a custom lockscreen from fresh using the pre kitchen .2 i installed it and my phone rebooted but is now in a boot loop

anything is appreciated
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thedudejdog:
just flash the rom again. that should fix it.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abcdfv:
Restore the Nandroid backup you made before flashing the lockscreen.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] skndeep102:
I cant get it to boot into recovery

Edit: ok i got it into recovery but for some reson i took out my micro sd card and misplaced it

if someone could send me a copy of their nandroid backup could i flash it from a different micro sd card?
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thedudejdog:
from recovery flash a different rom, or the same rom over top of itself.
[EVO 4G Android Development] extrafuzzyllama:
take a look guys

http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-4g/90893-ota-update-1-32-651-6-a.html
[EVO 4G Android Development] Tenny:
Interesting...

I am running Flips "stock" rom, and no prompt for this...

Did a "firmware" update... none found.

Did a HTC Software Update... found it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] extrafuzzyllama:
post the zip so flipz and toast can have a look at it
[EVO 4G Android Development] pingpongboss:
I used the search function in Root Explorer, but found neither "OTA_Supersonic" or "update.zip"

It must be in one of those folders that need root to view (right now I'm stock no root) like /data or something
[EVO 4G Android Development] CaptJager:
DO NOT ACCEPT THE UPDATE FOR NOW ...MORE LATER FROM Matt, Ozzeh,Joshua and zule...
[EVO 4G Android Development] pingpongboss:
https://twitter.com/unrevoked
[EVO 4G Android Development] rufflez2010:
Well that sucks...
[EVO 4G Android Development] apristel:
upload it so the devs can see whazzz up!
[EVO 4G Android Development] thatguythatdid:
Here's a copy of the sprint hero ota that I got at the same time and it supposedly (not gonna test it) breaks root. I'm pretty sure it's really a super cool update to make are phones ten times better :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] GumboChief:
Just got back home. Super glad I saw this thread. I had the guy at radioshack cancel the update when it came up (he had to turn phone on to complete activation, he said).

He mentioned that for the other 6 phones he did that morning, he let the update install :eek:
[EVO 4G Android Development] a5ehren:
99% of the population is better off with the update due to the storage fix. Rooters are a tiny group of people, relatively speaking.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Cordy:
The guy at Sprint almost ran the update since they do have to turn the phone on to activate it, however since I didn't need anything else he just told me to make sure to update and told me how and even offered. I told him I'd get right on it as I go outside. But yea the OTA is probably best for most consumers buying this device (especially after the conversations that took place this morning) as just about everyone else there this morning just wanted to get the phone switching from various carriers from T-Mobile and ATT and just wanted it to work. There was like one other guy there who was pretty knowledgeable buying the phone outright like I was, but he claimed again he just wants the phone to work no jumping through hoops and knows about rooting but has no intentions to. The guy in charge was emphasizing to his staff to make sure to push the update. I just happened to luck out.
[EVO 4G Android Development] FuManChuu:
anyone got pre and post ota version numbers so I can confirm my unit hadn't been updated before handing it over? Thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] Cordy:
1.32.651.1 ->Shipping

1.32.651.6 ->OTA
[EVO 4G Android Development] princem131:
I was running flipz stock got the notification last night at like 3am and updated. Not sure if it closed root access because I could still go into the recovery screen and navigate the menus to flash, wipe etc.
[EVO 4G Android Development] chuckhriczko:
That sounds promising. Look at the rom version in the about section of settings. Does it end with a 1 or a 6?
[EVO 4G Android Development] joeykrim:
are you able to type su thru adb shell or connectbot on the localhost after applying the OTA while stil using flipz stock with root ROM?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Tilde88:
um i tested... OTA applied... Rooted, recovery, NAND backup... it all worked...USB debugging Enabled on plugin. Installed 64bit ADB drivers and boom!

no problem to fear the root loss

um crap... nvm apparently i didnt update...

i swear I downloaded, installed, restarted the phone to allow install... but it shows software number 1.32.651.1.

maybe because I did a factory reset? then that would mean that this update is rather a patch (ie like a cab fix)??

or did the update not apply?
[EVO 4G Android Development] spurnout:
But does that retain the update fix for the sdcard?
[EVO 4G Android Development] G1toEVO4G:
damn i updated what am i supposed to do now ?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Tilde88:
see im WAY confused now... maybe someone posted wrong info...

i do HTC software update,,, guess what

"Your Phone is up to date"

"there are no updates available for your phone...

yea... no way in hell does it kill root... confirmed
[EVO 4G Android Development] Cordy:
It's because you rooted the phone. Both the Rom you flash when rooting as well as the one flipz posted based on the RUU are the original software version. Makes logical sense that once you root again the software will go back to the original version since thats what they are based on. At least we know that it works. They will more than likely just release an update zip for the patch or an all inclusive one.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Tilde88:
hehe i was thinking that right after i posted...

k so it must have been the OTA didnt apply right...

im telling you tho, I downloaded... installed immediately after radioshack... it rebooted the phone, went to the little green arrows showing it was updating, rebooted again... and then i got home and rooted
[EVO 4G Android Development] Cordy:
lol, no what I'm saying is that you did apply the OTA but since you are still capable of flashing the root the software version is lower so thats why it shows up. The point is you proved the OTA doesn't break toast's method of root, but as is you are technically reverting to the original rom which is a lower software version. It will stay at that number unless you a. perform the OTA again or b. with root flash an update.zip that contains the patch. For good measure you can always try installing the OTA and then rooting again just to make sure! ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] Aridon:
Just wait a day or two and we'll have a new rom with root still preserved to flash. Its not worth losing root over this and what will most likely be a non issue in 48 hours.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dav1boy:
you can still root after the OTA update. what it will do is take you back to the old .1 firmware with root access...
[EVO 4G Android Development] xuser:
Word of HTC Evo 4G storage bug couldn't come at a worse time

"Update: Well, that was quick. Dre wrote in to tell us of a 13MB OTA update being pushed already, version 1.32.651.6, that looks to include a number of fixes including, apparently, a solution for this storage bug. We're hearing it also breaks the root path that dropped yesterday, but it sounds like a decent trade-off for now."

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/04/word-of-htc-evo-4g-storage-bug-couldnt-come-at-a-worse-time/
[EVO 4G Android Development] dav1boy:
keywords: "we're hearing"

i did the OTA at radioshack this morning because i had the storage card issue.

and i just rooted by putting the .zip on my sd, went to recovery and did the update. it reverted the OTA .6 updated back to the original .1 firmwire with root access. on top of that i just installed the custom recovery image via adb.
[EVO 4G Android Development] diomark:
For what it's worth.. I rooted mine, installed the supersonic stock rooted ROM on here, then did the OTA upgrade.. I still have root.

-mark
[EVO 4G Android Development] dav1boy:
werd. thanx for the confirmation. it took me a good 2 hours to decide if i wanted to take the plunge or not because of all the "were hearing" stuff floating around. but i wanted to try out froyo and given my history with winmo and android, ive never bricked a device yet. so i went for it..

fyi, i did not have root access prior to rooting. i had the stock rom then the ota updated version. then i rooted.
[EVO 4G Android Development] apexi350z:
Is your Software number 1.32.651.6 now or is it 1.32.651.1?

never mind, found all my answers here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=690762&page=58
[EVO 4G Android Development] adelaney:
You know everyone said the same thing when the hero came out, and I went in and traded the device, only for one preloaded with 1.56, but was able to root anyway. Has anyone actually third with the update to root?
[EVO 4G Android Development] cail9970:
I rooted mine, installed the supersonic stock rooted ROM, then did the OTA upgrade...

the software still .1 not .6 / and I still have the root

! I cannot apply the OTA to a rooted EVO
[EVO 4G General] pingpongboss:
Stock rom, non-rooted: This OTA update pops up out of nowhere

Have not yet installed. Trying to find the ZIP on my phone.

Anyone know where the update ZIP downloads to? If we install this update will we be unable to root?
[EVO 4G General] arkshel:
Maybe a fix for the SD card glitch?
[EVO 4G General] pingpongboss:
Yea that's what most people are saying.
[EVO 4G General] DiNoise:
if it only fixes microSD card issue then you shouldn't loose ROOT..

but who's gonna try first?? :)
[EVO 4G General] pingpongboss:
DO NOT INSTALL THE UPDATE!

https://twitter.com/unrevoked
[EVO 4G General] IceCreaMan:
theres gotta be another way to root afte applying the update
[EVO 4G General] Joecrack305:
it is the sd card glitch fix they told us about it yesterday in our meeting
[EVO 4G General] realgt:
sd card glitch is rare

i've had the EVO (from I/O) and have only rarely seen this SD card glitch. if it happens i close out the camera app (kill it with a task manager) and then reopen it and it works fine. like i said, has only happened 2-3 times in the past two weeks.

if the OTA update kills root i'd rather wait otherwise if it can still be rooted with the sd card issue fixed then i'll run the ota update
[EVO 4G General] YoungAceAtlanta:
i got that Update soon i turnt my phone on. soon i check for PRI updates and etc etc when you first turn the phone on it said no frimware was found. Then 5secs later a update pops up
[EVO 4G General] jblazea50:
this is off topic, but does rooting void the warranty?
[EVO 4G General] aldo37:
Unlike the nexus one, which has some sort of hardware fuse or something when you first root, you can get the EVO back to pure stock form.
[EVO 4G General] Rennat:
It is an update to fix the memory card issue. To read all about it go the Engadget.
[EVO 4G General] mooretis:
I have tried to apply the OTA update because I have had numerous sdcard issues that are more annoying than not having root (for the moment). The update will not apply. It starts to apply the update and then the screen displays a red ? and then reboots. Checking the software version and it remains the 1.32.651.1 version.

Has anyone actually tried this and gotten it to work?
[EVO 4G General] chippillie:
All OTA downloads go to your SD card in a file called Downloads by default. Look there.
[EVO 4G General] pingpongboss:
Oops, hate to be bringing back a dead topic, but the update file is in fact not in /sdcard/downloads

I just had the phone download the OTA again. It must be stored elsewhere.
[EVO 4G General] Geosama:
sorry but that's incorrect. From a person who HAS updated, my unrevoked root is working perfectly fine, as well as my awesome free wireless tether.
[EVO 4G General] scriptx:
I was able to flash this zip (Supersonic_1.32.651.6_rooted.zip) from recovery over my existing Supersonic_1.32.651.1 ROM. I can confirm my system reports software version .6, and all is working. I am still able to sudo.. tethering and root explorer work great!
[EVO 4G General] pingpongboss:
You quoted some old news. The guys behind Unrevoked has already patched their root method.
[EVO 4G General] willfck4beer:
Has anyone noticed a decreased 3G connection speed after the OTA update and/or PRL update?

My first few days was consistently getting 1200kbps down and 1000kbps up in 3g. After these two updates... 800kbps down and 800 up. Seems pretty consistent and stabilized... pisses me off... thinking about taking it back and NOT updating PRL. is there a way to roll back?
[EVO 4G General] XpAcErX:
I keep reading different answers and its rather confusing. Is it safe to install the OTA update 1.32.651.6 or not?
[EVO 4G General] rn4emp:
can you do this update with a custom Rom. I have been trying but it won't take. is there a special way to update this on a Custom Rom. I am using JMZ rom
[EVO 4G General] routine8:
ota update

Yes the its update destroys unrevoked root. No unrevoked has not been updated to get around it. The its update helps battery life A LOT. it also seems to screw up the data connection a little bit. It seems like 3g goes inactive once in a while to save power or something. Not a huge deal on the 3g but yes a huge deal on losing root!!!
[Desire General] lambrospower:
Hey guys, i installed swype and htc ime mod keyboards and i am excited with swype. But my main problem is the dictionary. i live in cyprus and i use english letters writing greek words (greeklish) so i have all my words stored in the dictionary and i don't want to save them all over again with swype. is there a way to export it and omprt it into swype ???? or tweak it in order to read the default htc dictionary instead of its own ????? that would be great even if upgrade the rom where a wipe is required....

thanks

come on guys someone must did this,,,,there are so many users of swype
[Desire General] koullas:
Eginikamen 2 an evris lisi pm me pls
[Desire General] lambrospower:
the only thing that i find great of swype (apart from all the other benefits) on this matter is that when you type the word the first time and press space it automatically being saved into its dictionary and now is possible to swype and type it...instead of typing it and choosing it from the options like htc ime
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] docsparks:
[Congrats, the hater made me raise the price from $20, to $40] - Goal is to replace Sense dialer with stock dialer/calllog/contacts from an AOSP 2.1 rom.

I hate SenseUI. Not Really, but the way the dialer/contacts work, is just one of my biggest problems with Sense.

So, when I get this phone, my only reason to root, is if I can replace my default phone/contacts APK.

I haven't used a Sense rom on any phone for over an hour, simply because I can NOT stand the dialer/call log and such.

Any suggestions? Please?

Im familiar with ADB, and will have no problems/regrets/worries about rooting, as I treat my phones like a first born, and dont let them get near harm.

But if there is no real hope for me replacing the Call Log/ Dialer/ Contacts part, with the style from 2.1 N1, I might as well go get my deposit back.

Anyone? First person with step for steps gets $40 donated/paypal'd/ whatever works for you

thanks for not flaming, im sure others will be pleased if this information is made simple-and-clear.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrono:
well first off you gotta root it first, after that i'm not sure.

Edit: i'm retarded, gotta read the title of stuff before I post.