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[Nexus One General] diversificationied:
2.0.1 and 2.1 are both eclair.

That's the point.

I've said before that the release will be a diferent build number, but they see both already "froyo" builds. The changes that are coming are behind the scene things anyways, you will hardly notice them.
[Nexus One General] codesplice:
There won't be enough difference between the two to give one of them a different codename.

But to each his own, I suppose. You go ahead and enjoy looking forward to Yoplait. I'm loving my FroYo.
[Nexus One General] ATnTdude:
Continuing to call Android 2.2 Froyo is like calling your Nexus One a HTC Passion. If you're going to do one, at least be consistent and do the other.
[Nexus One General] logger:
Critiquing froyohack/froyobeta/froyaRC/froyoleak/froyo* or whatever you want to call it, as though it is the final release, when it is not.

THAT'S the point.
[Nexus One General] attn1:
Most whats? And you know this how?

Google pushed this out as Android 2.2. It is what it is, and that is Android 2.2, codenamed "FroYo".

You can believe in FroYo; you make me believe in yoyo.
[Nexus One General] :
Who said it was the final release? Froyo is a branch, this build (with release keys mind you) is part of that branch. There could be ten froyo releases down the pipeline for all we know. Maybe take a few minutes and read up on the way android is coded?
[Nexus One General] logger:
The plethora of threads with title like:

"Froyo is SLOW"

"Official Froyo battery life thread"

"some froyo findings...BUGS" etc

.. imply the issues discussed are applicable to and typical of FROYO as intended for public release. I hope they are not.

Like this very thread, most of those threads will fade to oblivion and get replaced by ones that actually discuss the release version. Then at least we will all be talking about and critiquing FROYO as Google intended for public release and not a RC or whatever we cannot decide to call it.
[Nexus One General] :
Lol, this is froyo. There will never be a "final" release of any android branch, until the next branch is out.
[Nexus One General] logger:
LOL to you to. But we wouldn't want to concede a point would we. LOL.

Sent from my Nexus one using T@p@t@lk
[Nexus One General] :
Concede what? The update labeled FRF 50 that was accidently sent out is the Froyo branch of android that includes Froyo code.

It wasn't an official public update from Google, that doesn't magically turn it into Eclair code.
[Nexus One General] attn1:
Trolling isn't making a point.

If you think that's going to stop happening when it's more widely released, you're going to be sorely disappointed.

This thread is about to get a boobie prize.
[Nexus One General] NexuGsx:
I haven't seen any real negativity towards froyo... I don't understand what the problem is. Who's saying it's slow?

I think you have it all backwards.

"Can we keep calling it delicious froyo?"

FIFY
[Nexus One General] galaxys:
Froyo is delicious and very healthy for your N1 :D ;)
[Nexus One General] logger:
NO. The Point that reviews/feedback/opinions to date are based upon a pre-release version. Reviews/feedback/opinions of the RTM version may differ. Thats all..

That would depend on you point of view now wouldn't it? Seemed to get your attention, so a point was made.

Please hang onto your sore disappointment, as I do not think that for a minute.

Once FROYO is officially released by Google, the inevitable criticism will reflect FROYO that Google intended to release to the public and not one that they were putting the finishing touches on. This I believe, is the point the OP was trying to make.
[Nexus One General] codesplice:
.... it's still Android 2.2; it's still Froyo.
[Nexus One General] logger:
It is.

Just that like any prototype, the pre release does not necessarily reflect the final product.
[Nexus One General] asero:
Cupcake

Donut

Eclair

Froyo

Gingerbread

It is called "Froyo" for that reason. They could have called it "Fried Oreo" or something but maybe Froyo tastes better :D
[Nexus One General] attn1:
Just because you run your mouth doesn't mean there's a point to your drivel.

Trying and making are very different things. No valid point was ever made regarding the request to stop calling Android 2.2 froyo. On the contrary, you and OP and a sprinkling of others have refused to acknowledge the fact that this release was actually released by Google as Android version 2.2 - and nothing else. They have released the Android 2.2 SDK. In fact, this release is squarely in the source repository tree code named "FroYo". If you understand the process surrounding software development, you understand this.

Whining about perceptions doesn't change a thing. This thread has no point, you're arguing a non-issue, and you're behaving like a boob.

so here you go:

MOD EDIT - Image removed (thread cleaning)
[Nexus One General] dtosun:
Where is official froyo? Somebody said, it will published this weekend, there is no update?: ( I m very disappointed....

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[Nexus One General] MrCDWJR:
did someone "official" say "blah blah blah it will be released between june 4th - june 6th blah blah blah".... ? i dont think so. Just ccchiiillllll it'll be out soon enough.
[Nexus One General] logger:
Yes, lets hope so. It will be good to get the real deal.
[Nexus One General] Blueman101:
I have a feeling that we might be waiting a while, because if they release it on Monday or a few days after it will be overshadowed (unfortunatly) by whatever Apple releases at WDC. So unless the release tomorrow (monday) which I think would be a bad move, it may be a while after Apple is done with its BS before we hear about FroYo, or I could be totally wrong.
[Nexus One General] :
I seriously doubt the android team is planning their releasing and coding around Apple's schedule.
[Nexus One General] TFJ4:
Source????
[Nexus One General] Blueman101:
No, but Google, and advertisement GIANT knows how to sell a product, and to release a new firmware for its phone the same time a competitor is trying to release theirs will only hurt coverage of both of them.
[Nexus One General] Blueman101:
Sorry to actually throw out a number, the point was that it would be a difference in the build number.
[Nexus One General] Digital1325:
Lmao @ fried oreo... Sure could go for one of those right now...
[Nexus One General] Blueman101:
Reminds me of an oreo blizzard from DQ, infact there is one a block away. Where the hell are my shoes?!
[Nexus One General] Digital1325:
Thought of one of those too believe me. Don't forget the oreo frosters from mcdicks... Where the hell is my brother and his car
[Nexus One General] qiuness:
no froyo for me...don't have root access for some reason although rooted
[Nexus One General] djmcnz:
Well I didn't read the whole thread and it might even be a lost cause but I did get that reference and liked it.

And I don't think we should upset Michael, Fi and Sam.

Although you spelled his name wrong so he might have to whip out a MAC-10 on your ass... :)

Glad it's back on too.
[Nexus One General] 3Shirts:
Just made me wonder; What were the first two builds called (A and B) before Cupcake. I don't think A was ever released but I remember my G1 received Cupcake OTA so it must have been on 'Butterscotch' or whatever before that.
[EVO 4G General] bobdude5:
its really dark and the lights wont turn on >/ this is reallly annoying..its doing this on my phone and my girlfriends..we both came from nexus ones so were not used to order of the bottom buttons yet..any way to activate the lights?
[EVO 4G General] MrDSL:
they are on by default over here..i haven't used android long enough to change the setting if it even has one so mine has to be default. I have my brightness set to auto but im pretty sure that was default also.
[EVO 4G General] bobdude5:
ya i dont think there is an option for that because ive been using android for a loonngg time..my brightness is on auto too >/ man this sucks
[EVO 4G General] MrDSL:
hmm thats weird its happening to both phones. i dont know if it makes a difference or not but i havent pushed the OTA update to my phone.
[EVO 4G General] bobdude5:
me neither :/
[EVO 4G General] drewX2:
Mine also automatically lights up when I hit the power button. I have not done the OTA.
[EVO 4G General] liquidkernel:
That's SO weird. After reading the title of this thread, a few seconds later, my lights stopped coming on, too.
[EVO 4G General] liquidkernel:
Turned it off, pulled the battery, and now it works fine.
[EVO 4G General] bobdude5:
ya mine just randomly started working with no reboot ahah..how weird..now to get my ota >/ still havent got it yet
[EVO 4G General] phobos512:
I just came in here to find this thread (how do you search in the XDA app??) because I am using my phone in the dark for the first time (hotel, trying not to wake my girlfriend) and my buttons weren't lighting up.

I did a quick Google search and found they won't light up if you turn the screen on when the phone is plugged in, and this is apparently by design.
[EVO 4G General] TheBiles:
For some reason mine never work in the morning in the dark (when I actually need them to), but they always work during the day. I figure there is just some bug with the light detector.
[EVO 4G General] blakejohnson86:
For those having issues with the lights not turning on, are you plugged into a USB cable? Mine do not turn in when a USB cable is plugged in, but they do otherwise.
[EVO 4G General] mrmack:
Mine never turn on at all. They haven't since I got the phone. At first I thought it was by design then I realized how stupid that would be and looked it up. Sure enough here is the thread with people having the same problem...I'm on hold with HTC as we speak...
[EVO 4G General] gamer83:
Capacitive Touch Buttons won't Illuminate

I found this thread in a Google Search and wanted to bump it:

I just picked up my white EVO today. I just noticed my capacitive touch buttons don't light up, though they do function. This makes the phone impossible to use in the dark. I was going to ask if this was a setting I was missing, but after reading this thread it seems like a small bug. Have anyone found out what the status is on a fix? thanks!
[EVO 4G General] iikon_69:
Ok guys I discovered that the button lights have a light sensor, this sensor is located under the earpiece speaker on the left side looking at the phone. If you have it plugged in you can cover the sensor up with your thumb and the lights will turn on. The lights also will not come if you are outside or in a well lit room. I hope this helps, and still dont know what to tell the OP as his happened in the dark.
[EVO 4G Android Development] fireboy6275:
My 4G was working before I flashed the rooted ROM . Now it says "A network error has occurred retry? ". Could this be because of something I have done or something that I am missing? Sorry if I posted this in the wrong place. I have looked under multiple threads and couldn't find anything! Thanks for any help!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Tilton53:
The custom roms do not seem to have 4G support at this time.
[EVO 4G Android Development] gbdesai:
You know, I thought the same, but I was running 4G after I used the toast method earlier today. It just so happens that my home is in a dead spot, actually on the Sprint map I am the only 1 acre location that seems not to be covered in the Sprint street level map. Anyway, it did seem to connect to 4G in other nearby areas...
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Crown510:
Hi guys I just recently did the "How to Root Sprint 2.1 Release for CDMA Hero" in the developers area and I need help choosing rom. I mostly use my phone to surf the net/update my FB/ check my gmail/ download music from music junk etc. I want to be able to do everything I normally do on a normal 2.1 updated hero minus the usesless nascar apps/footprints etc. I want to be able to have live wallpaper and be able to tether as well as save apps to my SD card.

Can you guys suggest me at least 3 separate roms that will allow me to do this? Each one I click seems tempting and really considering giving them a shot. I hear everyone saying do a NANDROID backup what is that exactly? Where do I go to see how to do this? I definitely need help. I also want to know how can I go back to my stock 2.1 sprint rom if in the end I just don't end up liking any of these modified roms (doubt it). I will try and keep browing and reading. Thanks guys for helping me out.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abcdfv:
Try them all. It's the only way.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Crown510:
But how it's my question I don't see tutorials...I just wanna make sure I don't f up my phone. i have insurance but still i'm cautious about it. I was thinking this one

ALOYSIUS 2.1
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Konikub:
I just responded to your PM :)
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abcdfv:
I used the 1.5 Versions of Aloysius, it was good. Haven't tried the 2.1 versions.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wiiguy5:
Question is, do you like Sense? If not, go for DarchDroid. (Unless you use MMS, then go for Ic3Rom). If you like sense, go for DamageControl.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joshuaharp:
Damagecontrol is a great Rom. Very stable and has built in UI program for disabling Sprint apps, launcher, live wallpaper or even sense all together. There's also apps2sd, JIT compiling, memkiller adjustments, dalvik to SD and swapping options. Just be cautious you don't change a setting without prior research to see what effects it will have on your system. I've been on DC for about a month now and can say this Rom is killer.

And as ALWAYS...do a nandroid backup before making any changes.

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[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joshuaharp:
To do a nandroid you will need a program that can flash a recovery image (allows you to boot up your phone without your OS). I have ROM Manager. But there are others. Once you have flashed a recovery image, backup your OS. This will do a complete backup of your device, so you can always restore where you previously were. I would also recommend making a copy of your backup to your computer HD for safe keeping. Android Police has a couple excellent tutorials on accomplishing this.

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[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] telepheedian:
Personally, I recommend Fresh. Simple, it's got everything you need, and it just seems to work better than DC on my device. DC had some issues with su and felt slow to me.
[Nexus One General] kobecamp2009:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JcLRScNUR8#t=9m00s
[Nexus One General] denimjunkie82:
there's no competition here. EVO owners are our brothers and sisters. We are all on the same team, fighting the fruit.
[Nexus One General] Blueman101:
That reminded me of Veggie-Tales
[Nexus One General] rjhay22:
Nice screen size....... that's all I can say though :-) everything else is standard. My nexus on Froyo is a lot smoother and quicker than that.
[Nexus One General] kobecamp2009:
This is true.
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
used evo today, it was definitely laggy compared to my nexus. but the evo was solid as hell and i liked the form factor a whole lot. its almost like the perfect tablet/phone size. love the smooth slate back too.
[Nexus One General] coldchillen:
lol agreed. lets stop the robot on robot hating and focus on the real enemy ;D
[Nexus One General] SBERG117:
Evo was nice but compared to holding a N1 its not close. Same for the Incredible(honestly i didnt like it at all,too plasticy). Nothing has the feel in hand the nexus does from my experience. At the same time if ya handed me either phone and said "Here it yours". I d take it in a second. All three phones ive stated run nice. Would be very happy either way. But i do like my nexus above all.:D:D:D:D
[Nexus One General] bobdude5:
this isnt the nexus ****ting on the evo..this is android 2.2 ****ting on android 2.1
[Nexus One General] nephroid:
Agree that EVO users are our brothers and sisters.

Disagree that we're fighting the fruit. We're fighting limitations.
[Nexus One General] MrCDWJR:
+1 to this one
[Nexus One General] Amrosorma:
Both devices have their advantages and disadvantages, but infighting like this just makes us look bad. Grow up guys :p
[Nexus One General] jz9833:
I'd like to see a 2.1 Nexus vs a 2.1 EVO and then a 2.2 Nexus vs a 2.2 EVO (we will have to wait though).
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
Agreed.

The more people using Androids (and less FRUITS), the better. ANY win for Android is a win for

ALL

of us.

That being said, I did get a chance to check out the EVO yesterday at a Sprint store. After the short line wait (lol), I got my hands on it and compared. Here's what I found:

Pros:

Despite the size, my N1 feels heavier. What the heck? I am using a full-body skin, but it can't make THAT much of a difference.

The Evo isn't THAT much larger when one is placed over the other. In fact, it made me realize just how much bezel is at the bottom of the N1 (where the trackball is). On the Evo, that space is much reduced. There should be few problems fitting the Evo into pockets etc, as the size is not too much larger.

The screen size is definitely just amazing. Browsing webpages is much more enjoyable.

3G Speed: Loading up webpages was always faster on the Evo than my N1. I quickly downloaded Ookla Speedtest on both phones and got an average of 2000/650 on the Evo and 400/1350 on the N1 (both on 3G, don't think there's 4G here). Of course, they could have had a 3G repeater in the Sprint store. And it's funny how T-Mobile's uploads were exactly twice as high, and I got 1350 every single time. I think they're both upload-capped.

The soft buttons under the screen are much easier to hit. From the second I picked up the phone, I hit them 100% of the time without any problems. I'm not sure what the heck HTC did with the N1, and why the labels don't match the touch points.

Cons:

I can definitely tell the color difference between the two. I loaded up Engadget and looked at one of the pictures on the front page on both phones. It was night and day. The N1 was colorful and vibrant and the Evo seemed washed out. Any N1 user will instantly tell how much of a difference the AMOLED screen makes.

The N1 certainly takes the cake in terms of style. The Evo looks plain, almost ugly. The N1 feels more solid as well. But that may be due to the weight as I said previously.

Flash/FroYo. Of course, we have it, they don't. The person next to me testing the other Evo was asking the employee if it had Flash. I didn't get the chance to butt into their conversation but I was this close to showing off my N1... :) I know the Evo has root already, but development will always be better on the N1 since it's Google's baby.

The Evo definitely felt laggy and scrolling homescreens was not smooth. (Chalk it up to FroYo of course.)

Anyway, I don't see how that video is the N1 "****ting" on the Evo? The comparison was like 1/10th of the video, and the speed was only marginally faster.

Anyone else try out the Evo yesterday / today?

In any case, the bottom line here is that there is no competition between our phones. This is only bad for Apple, who is probably shaking in their boots :D
[Nexus One General] doctajay:
Yeah I went to the sprint store yesterday to play with it and I had my at&t nexus one in hand to compare. The build quality on my n1 definitely was better than the evo which had way too much plastic. I mean it was still okay but just a lot of plastic. Also there is something to be said with having an 800x 400 with amoled resolution as compared to just a bigger screen with the same resolution. While I could see more of the webpage when browsing on the evo the pages still looked sharper on my n1. With that beING said I would buy the evoif I was a sprint customer but seeing how long it took Sprint to go from the pre to the evo I just can't foresee them getting another flagship phone for awhile... while at&t is slowly but surely about to release a lot of new android phones from dell, HTC, and Samsung

Sent from my Nexus One
[Nexus One General] mrbkkt1:
Didn't have the patience to watch the whole video so I fast forwarded to the end. I am amazed at how much brighter and clearer the nexus 1 screen is compared to the evo. That video would make me want to buy the N1 more.
[Nexus One General] rjhay22:
True... Check this video out... screen comparison.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd9X60M_Knc
[Nexus One General] temperbad:
I tested one also. Me full bars 3g, it full bars 4g and it was a tie to every web site. I get good hsdpa here in Portland though.... I prefer my n1 especially after that...
[General Topics] htc fan89:
hey guys,

Why is it that mobile manufacturer always released different version of the same phone but with different umt bands? Wouldn't it be more profitable if they release one phone with all umt bands?
[General Topics] sirphunkee:
Because a large part of the reason there are separate umt bands in use is becasuse the carriers believe that it helps retain customers if they can't just walk their phone over to the competitor at will, here in N. America anyway. So, the carriers each want to buy phones from HTC that specifically don't have that capability ;)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ceger:
It seems that the HTC mail app now supports peak and off-peak times with seperate schedules. I also had it set for "as items arrive" for peak with exchange and regular gmail setups and saw no sync icon going off at all unless I did a manual sync from within the app.

Does any know if the app on EVO now supports true push?

Ceger
[Windows Mobile Software Development] airycanon:
I'm using OsKitchen Zero v1.29,when importing data from a HD2 stock ROM,it says "unable to load Resources\Libraries\libnb.dll".

View attachment 337800

But I have found the libnb.dll in Resources\Libraries,what's the problem?

View attachment 337801

Sorry for my poor English.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] airxtreme:
Try installing this: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/915865 (direct link for xp x86 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...FamilyID=D7B5DC81-AD14-4DE2-8AD5-8C4A9AAB5992 )
[Windows Mobile Software Development] airycanon:
it works,thanks.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] thesteve42:
same prob.

running win2k, cant use the update shown
[EVO 4G General] fazzy:
Am i right I am not sure but I think so thats what they said
[EVO 4G General] Avalaunchmods:
haha yes it has literally dropped from the radar. weirdest thing that ea games doesnt pull threw with what they said
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wiiguy5:
I'm on darchdroid, and yes, I've activated the 'featured theme servers', but I was wondering if there was a list of them somewhere? And if not, maybe we should create a wiki page (I'm pretty sure some other roms use the updater, you could categorize the page by rom?) with them?
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] murdocthc:
I am also curious about this...would like to theme this up :)
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abcdfv:
I don't think Darch has a theme sections set up on his server yet.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wiiguy5:
Darn. :\

10char
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darchstar:
So Cyanogen has decided on assimilating ADWLauncher in his source. though it has been accepted in by Cyanogen, i am a bit wary of whether or not you guys will be accepting of this change or not. So i'd like all your input on this. Would you guys rather keep the regular launcher that is already in the rom and just add the changes cyanogen makes to his mainstream launcher alongside this, or would you guys rather have me make the leap to ADW.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abcdfv:
I'd love to leap to the ADWLauncher. I much prefer it to the stock Launcher.apk, and even to the Launcher2.apk.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wiiguy5:
I'd say that you should use ADW, and maybe provide an update.zip for the current launcher, for those who like it.

-and/or-

Put both in DS Updater, so we can switch within the rom itself
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thatguythatdid:
those other launchers are well.. old and ugly