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[EVO 4G General] enragedpaza:
So the day before release i decided to call around for a store. Best Buy 2 people said completely different things, we have 20 extras, we have no extras. 1 RadioShack said, come in and i will give you a preorder! that's the day before, and that was to good to be true. Caled one more RadioShack, they had extras and would hold one for me. (really my girl, because she is account holder) So she called before they close and a girl answered, my girl told an employee her name, and he said i yeah we have your phone set aside for tomorrow come in at 10am to get it. She said as soon as she they got there (around 10:08am) they said hey are you _________, went to the back and came out with the box. Sold her the phone.

NOW the phone is excellent, i have purchased EVERY new phone that was supposed to be excellent, except droid and incredible. This is the number 1, Nexus a close second. (if it wasn't allways hot, maybe first.) I can see the scree outside decently well. better than the Nexus in direct sunlight. I donwloaded some files for test of speed, and it downloaded faster than my pre, nexus one, fuze and my buddy's storm. (Note: all are the 4 major carriers. No 4g coverage in Cincinnati, OH) Screen is over whelming, but I like that ALOT! I could do with out Sense, but it's not bad. Calls are clear and loud enough to hear them. Video recording is better than any phone i have owned or played with, and I play with them all. Overall, satisfied more than i thought I would be. I usually change phones every 3 to 4 months, but this one will stay.
[EVO 4G General] MetroKnight:
I picked up my phone at Best Buy in King of Prussia, PA. I was half hour early for my appointment, they were still helping other buyers and I ended up waiting until my scheduled time. (which is a good thing IMO, right on schedule - I didn't mind the extra time to look at accessories)

I give them an 8. They were playing some promo video on an lcd tv screen, and it seems the video would have been better played on an Evo. very bad quality!

Phone

I'm loving this bad boy!, every time I look at it, I think to myself "that's a huge *****!" I wish I could make the fonts smaller and put more icons across, but it's not a big deal to me right now, that's a whole other os thing.

The one negative thing for now is not really bad, I just might have to get used to it. The bezel is so small, and the phone so big, so when I grab the phone to put it down without turning it off first, the tip of my fingers usually makes some selections on the screen and starts programs unintentionally.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mccurt29:
What features are we losing by rooting & installing stock rom

1. ive heard 4G

2. ive heard vulnerable to dev..able to get our personal data easily

3. ?

4. ?

ETC....
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mccurt29:
any1????????????
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thecodemonk:
1.) Rooting doesn't lose features...installing a development rom will (Froyo atm) because it's still in development. But rooting is merely gaining access to the locked portions of your phone so it should not have any effect on features (though does affect how much you can damage if you don't understand things fully).

2.) Again, this only applies to installing a ROM and it's an exercise in trust. Is there a way to hide things from the majority? sure...with a wide base of users who are somewhat tech-savvy, it's harder but it could still be done. Ultimately, it comes down to whether or not you trust them...in the same way it comes down to whether or not you trust HTC for the exact same thing (they could hide info gathering tools too if they wanted).

The risk is there but unlikely with anything that sticks around a while...if you're worried about such things and want the most stable comfortable experience...stick with stock (at least for a while) until things have settled on the forums into a groove where you have the main few devs who have built a good reputation for themselves. (Toast and Flipz have built a good reputation for themselves on the CDMA Hero forums already but ultimately, it's you who have to decide who you want to trust. If you're truely paranoid, you could even add the concern that I'm just a propaganda spreading sleaze trying to allay your worries to get you to root and take over your phone, etc).

You can see, it can become a slippery slope if you overthink things. My suggestion is to watch and keep tabs on things going on...not only will you learn a lot about the whole process but you'll start seeing the non-tangible things that tell you where you can put your trust...or evidence that you should stay stock for a while longer. :)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] torremitsu:
Thanks for the reply. I'm going for it.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ValdreZ:
Yes thank you, I as well want the root options but would like to stick with the stock rom.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erikivy:
Sir, thanks for sharing!!! I'm a total noob and this was a very good read for me. I appreciate the time it took to put together a coherent and meaningful post.
[myTouch 3G Slide General] vikramdhani:
I bought a really nice case from Fry`s Electronics here in San Jose,CA for $14.99. It is like a blackberry case and the phone fits very very well.

Please let me know if you have any more questions regarding the case. oh the case if made by Bytech
[HD2 General] semihbalcioglu:
just a small comparison between a professional camera and HD2's camera.What do you think? ( only cropped for same resolution, no color correction or anything)

HTC

EOS 400D

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HTC

EOS 400D

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HTC

EOS 400D

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HTC

EOS 400D

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[HD2 General] skycamefalling:
Apart from the awfully wrong white correction, the HD2 isn't shooting the worst pics outthere, it seems.

With much light the camera is good enough for snapshots.
[HD2 General] wolfee:
I think the EOS400D body needs to be sent back to Cannon and have the sensor cleaned and calibrated. And the lens needs to be cleaned. :p

the pics with the HD2 seem warmer on the flower and china doll. But the pics of the building and sign, are not that good. The 400D looks a lot better (except the depth of field, were the HD2 is sharper).

I have been playing with my camera a bit, and I cant get rid of the pink spot. I installed the update, and it made it better. But I still have a very noticable pink halo around 90% of my pics.
[HD2 General] kilrah:
Detail on the HD2 is good once resized to 800pix wide or so, perfectly good for web use but not much more. And yes, the color balance is very often completely off, usually skewed to magenta...
[HD2 General] stoolzo:
+1 on your EOS being faulty, shot one is ok but shot 2 looks problematic
[HD2 General] semihbalcioglu:
i m not a pro photographer. how do you understand that my eos is faulty or un-calibrated? is it that bad? can you help me a little?what should i do?:confused:
[HD2 General] kilrah:
The EOS is all good to me, just a couple tiny dust spots visible on photo 3, but nothing else...

The colors can seem "wrong" next to the HD2's ones... but it's the HD2 being wrong ;)
[HD2 General] optiknerv:
I cant see anything wrong with your eos tbh. The eos out does the hd2 in every picture except i think the last one. The difference I can barely notice. The first picture especially you can see how the eos brings out the purple in the center of the flower. It is crisp and has a more vibrant colour. Also the hd2 white on the flower is not very clear.

However we are talking a pro camera and a phone and I think for snap shots my hd2 is the best phone camera i have ever had. Especially in the dark in a pub etc as that flash is blinding!! If i wanna take landscapes i'll crack out the T90 or the fuji finepix.

EDIT After looking again at the last picture i think i prefer the hd2's. I can see what kilrah means about magenta as the blues in the hd2 version of the last image is slightly more vibrant. If you look at the sign on the building in the background ( the long thin one with the white writing) i think the blue is nicer than that of the eos. Thats not to say that the eos hasn't actually captured the correct colour but the hd2 colour is nicer.
[HD2 General] lude219:
I'm all for HD2 pictures, but let's be honest here, you should learn how to take better pictures with the 400D. In capable hands, there's no way you can compete a DSLR vs a puny smartphone with a static lens.
[HD2 General] ephestione:
totally uneven comparison :D

I own both, and of course in "tailored" shots you can notice only what appear to be bare differences (Except the horrible pink staining effect which is visible everywhere even if background colours may tend to cover for it), yet in "daily life" shots you cannot actually make much out of it... also remember HD2 has a complete unalterable assembly, while much of the eos 400d power comes from the lens that you mount on it, and I am not really comfortable at all to compare my 18-200 OS sigma lens to the plastic on the HD2 ;)

If I need to shoot items I want to sell online, I always do it with my HD2, or even if I need to get quick shots of things where the main thing is to "get the idea", but I would never fathom to use the HD2 in a real shooting situation... like when I'm on vacation. I would simply lose every pleasure in shooting if I had to do it with a phone camera.
[HD2 General] semihbalcioglu:
i didnt try to take good or stylish pictures.only took daily shots in a hurry, no manual settings or photoshop corrections.other way of course canon will shot much better pics. but i wanted to show that hd2 is also pretty good:)
[HD2 General] troed:
Except photos 1 (flower) all pics from the HD2 are better than from Eos, more crispy-sharp, more depth, more details

... but this is only my personal sunbjective impression, I´m no prof. photographer though
[HD2 General] ephestione:
you're missing the pink that stains everything in the center of the viewport ;)

Also, if I had to define detail, I'd say hd2 shots, when zoomed in, show a very, very "washed out" aspect all over the area, while zooming in all the way shots by the 400d you can only see the normal amount of moiree
[HD2 General] stoolzo:
its an interesting comparison, maybe we should leave it there as it doesn't really mean anything beyond showing the HD2 pics arent too bad at all - which we already new :)
[HD2 General] nazzza:
I have the hobby of photography.

All pictures from canon are a lot better than htc, and it's normal.

The canon sensor it A LOT bigger than a phone sensor.

You can notice that the canon pics are sharper, have a better exposure, a better white balance, a smoother out of focus, are less grainy. In some you have the impression that are crispier, but it's due to oversharpening (and if you like would be easy to obtain in pp on the canon shots)

About the depth of field, due to the smaller sensor of the htc (the smaller the sensor the deeper the depth of field), in most shots everything is in focus. But in photography this is a flaw. If, for example, I shot a portrait, I would prefer to have the face in focus, and all the rest out of focus.

On the other hand, on a reflex, you can choose the depth of field you prefer opening or closing the diaphragm

There are new sensor on the way and I'm sure that in future quality of our phones will be more and more similar to quality of point and shot cameras,

but will never reach the quality of reflex for the lack of BIG, HEAVY, good lenses.
[HD2 General] madindehead:
Stop criticising the guys photographic skills with his EOS. All he was trying to do is compare an image from the HD2, with an image from a dedication digital camera, to show that the HD2 isn't all that bad. And people jump in expecting him to take photographs like Edward Weston. Give the man a break!

On topic: Nice comparison. Good to see that compared with a proper digital camera, the HD2 is still pretty good.
[HD2 General] ilijan:
can you share your camera settings in hd2?

brightnes

iso

white balance

image properity

flicker adj.

thank you
[HD2 General] ayhansan:
HD2 has a bit of a magenta cast.

On the other hand, this shows how good the HD2 camera is.

HTC has come a long way from the 1Mb and 2Mb shooters that came with the BlueAngel and Prophet. HD2's photos now gets compared to that of an SLR.
[HD2 General] BumAround:
Buy a decent camera, and also buy a decent PDA/smartphone. End of story.

There are so many *freakin* experts here. :)
[HD2 General] semihbalcioglu:
thanks dude you understand me:)
[HD2 General] semihbalcioglu:
i want to say it again these shots are in auto mode.please dont judge me:)
[HD2 General] FRANQ_23_PL:
Most important settings when we make photo are (IMO) light source/conditions and ISO sensivity. Before making photo is worth to set it and dont use automatic settings. Look on this photos - this on left side is taken in automatic setting (light source/conditions-unknown, ISO-300 or 400) and this on right side set sunny source/conditions and ISO-100:

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[HD2 General] leftkats:
I don't think anybody is criticizing here... what everybody is trying to say, is that both htc and the eos can take pictures, that up to some extend they are similar, but the eos is a lot more capable on taking so many snapshots at different lighting that the htc would not even dream of!!... is like comparing a small family saloon car to a supercar... they can both drive and get you from A to B, do 100km/h, drive day and night (lol)... but obviously they do have some huge obvious differences :)
[HD2 General] FRANQ_23_PL:
Right, but you probably don't get idea of this thread. We know and remember about differences, but this thread is for showing for others, that WinMo smartphone can take quite good photos. Many of phones with photo-character taking worse photos (HD2 is buisness-character phone). This and knowlege, that WinMo phones are associated wih poor cameras, giving us proud of our toys. :cool:
[HD2 General] leftkats:
Which others??? Isn't this an HD2 specific thread, in a forum about windows mobile? Do you think that somebody with a sony ericson or a nokia phone would just "browse" in this forum?? I am sure we all accept that provided there is good lighting conditions, our HD2 is capable of delivering pics at an acceptable level. I am happy with my hd2, i don't use it for photos appart from some instant updates in twitter... and i would never complain about the quality of the camera, since it wasn't a factor that made my buy the phone..
[HD2 General] Toss3:
I don't know if you guys are using uncalibrated TN monitors or something because on my screen the EOS blows away the HD2 in every single shot hands down. Anyone who says differently is blinded by his bias towards the HD2.

The HD2's colors are completely off, shows noticeable noise, color fringing, horrible detail and sense of depth.

The HD2 is a good camera on the go, but it could NEVER replace a decent DSLR or even pocket camera for that matter.
[HD2 General] FRANQ_23_PL:
Did you tried registry trick to decrase JPEG compression of photos? ;) You take photos only in automatic settings? So you having results.

I don't think, that HD2 is comparable with profesional camera's or even compact camera's. Nobody say that. Our phone having lots of functions and applications, camera is one of them. Camera is camera and this device is designed to taking photos.

We compare photos with professional cameras to know how HD2 camera is CLOSE to perfect. Clear now?
[HD2 General] lonelykatana:
Im amazed by the HD2s quality (for a phone)

But for anything but snap shots... Pointless.

I dunno about your EOS (never used a cannon) but on my nikon d3 I can crop to 100% without and quality loss. If a phone could do that, Id pay anything for it :p
[HD2 General] Toss3:
Is this your thread or what did you base that last statement on? This is clearly a comparison between a DSLR and HD2 end of story. What facts you interpolate from that is up to you.

Besides troed already proved your post wrong.
[HD2 General] Qazz~:
The HD2's camera is amazing imo. Stated on wikipedia, is uses an CMOS censor(typical of DSLR's) which is much more pricier and better than CCD censors(typically found on compacts).

Comparing to my brothers sonyericsson W995, which is one of the top sony ericsson phones with an 8.1mp camera and cybershot functionalities, it pales in comparision to the HD2. Theres is much more noticable flare on the W995 and colours do not appear great, although the more functionality equates to somewhat better pictures depending on the scenario
[HD2 General] semihbalcioglu:
HD2 Panoramic mode (auto, ps)

EOS Shots( made with Photostitch) (manual settings, ps)
[HD2 General] ilijan:
i think u can seal your eos...

awesome photographer with hd2
[HD2 General] Xp3RiM3nT:
I am liking the panoramic shots there, unfortunately however the level of detail in both pictures is a bit weak due to the scaling of the images for the forum :(

Did something go wrong on the far right of the HD2 image, the sky goes all white, looks sort of like a cloud but there is no texture, and it is not on the EOS shot.
[HD2 General] semihbalcioglu:
its both the clouds and flare of the sun i think on the up right of image.hd2 takes very low resolution in panoramic mode.when i reg tweak for higher resolution for panoramic, it says not enough memory.
[HD2 General] spoogedemon:
lol!!!

what the hell?!

you compare a smartphone with a 1.6crop dslr?

sure, the 400d isn´t the best one, but it rules the hd2 fot sure in all fields.
[HD2 General] flunik:
okay, the hd2 sucks to camera.

now lets test how the camera handles phone calls:D:D:D:D
[HD2 General] flunik:
how do i use panoramic mode on hd2? :confused:
[HD2 General] Elemental_Fire:
Hmmmm it's logical to assume that a phone's camera can never (usually) outperform a dedicated standalone camera. My Casio 12.1MP blows away the Leo's HD2 camera quality. But it's not like the HD2 has a crappy camera. It's quite good. The limiting factors are the wideness angle of the lens, the fact that the camera's maximum resolution is 5MP, and that it's not a dedicated camera with Scene modes! Plus the ISO limitation...

I can post a few pics comparing Auto mode on both cameras to settle this once and for all... :cool:
[HD2 General] Elemental_Fire:
On the camera menu, click the arrow at the bottom. Then tap the camera, then a menu pops up showing a few modes. Click the one with two squares next to each other, one of them having dashed lines. It says Panorama underneath. Or if it's not there, use BSB tweaks and enable all Hidden Camera Modes. Soft reset and it'll be there under the pop-up camera menu when you click the camera icon:)
[HD2 General] FRANQ_23_PL:
Let's compare now macro photos. Im sure there will be interesting :cool:

And one more thing - there is only few cameras witch can geotaging photos (with external GPS receiver) HD2 can. Maybe this is not usefull for someone, but is cool to see on map where photo was taken, especialy if this is in terrain photos.
[HD2 General] chvvkumar:
This example shows exactly what the difference between the DSLR and a phone cam is.

You can see the photograph taken with the HD2 is over saturated (see the clouds) and compare the level of detail in the clouds of the DSLR shot.

This is of course unless you specifically want to achieve that specific effect.
[HD2 General] MalekoUK:
Try taking a photo of a tennis player with your HD2, then one with your 400D, or a racing car, or a bride throwing her flowers at a wedding... :rolleyes:
[HD2 General] lonelykatana:
Not true.

There are many compact cameras with CMOS sensors.

And allot of SLRs with CCD.

CMOS is allotcheaper to make than a CCD, thats why most companies are switiching to the use of CMOS.

There is little difference between CCD and CMOS in terms of picture quality (if any at all...)

CMOS has much better noise control, but in SLRs thats not needed, because the high ISO is ofset by fast aperture and speedlights...
[HD2 General] Wrathlon:
I think everyone in this thread is missing the point:

Nobody is claiming a HD2 Camera will replace an SLR.

Nobody is claiming the HD2 can replace a real camera for professional photography.

Nobody is advocating using the HD2 for anything other than snapshots.

What this thread IS showing is that the HD2 takes very good photos FOR A PHONE CAM and unlike most other phone cameras (Which produce grainy, useless images that look like that were taken on a $10 webcam), the HD2 is perfectly acceptable for taking your holiday snaps or pictures of your night out, or happy snaps of a birthday.

Where this whole "OMG a SLR is so much better n00b" **** came from I don't know and protip to all the photography experts: 99% of people don't use high end SLR cameras for their snaps, they generally use disposable cameras or a $50 digital camera.

This thread shows the HD2 is more than capable of replacing those and another plus for people considering this phone.
[HD2 General] semihbalcioglu:
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EOS (in the dark with flash)

HD2 (in the dark with flash)

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EOS (under sunlight)

HD2 (under sunlight)

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EOS (in the shade)

HD2 (in the shade)
[HD2 General] Xp3RiM3nT:
hey nice too see some more pictures, I think the HD2 really does show how good it is in those photos, apart from a slight colour difference a lot of the pictures has a very similar quality. The watch seems to have lost some of the detail that was shown in the eos shot, the eos picked up the lens of the watch bending the sunlight onto the dial of the watch, whereas that wasnt visible at all on the hd2 photo.

but it does show how good the HD2 is when put in the correct hands :P
[HD2 General] chuck232:
Man, I can't believe how bad the pink hues are in these photos... just kills the images, perhaps with the exception of shooting a pink flower. Looks like some post processing is required to try and remove some of it.

Not looking forward to that aspect of the device.
[HD2 General] Xp3RiM3nT:
maybe we are all just looking at the hd2 pics with rose tinted glasses?

nah the hd2 does have a problem with pink pictures, but i dont really see this as a major uissue for me since unless you post two pictures next to each other it is very hard too even see it.
[HD2 General] semihbalcioglu:
Yes i think HD2 has only problem with colors.all other things are awesome.focus, flash, clarity, etc...
[XPERIA X10 General] pally777:
Hi,

Does anyone else have issues with Timescape saying it is unable to connect to the Internet to get Facebook updates (shown in the Notification panel up top)? However, the Timescape panels all get updated with the latest Facebook news.

I do actually get Facebook updates in Timescape and the Internet connection is fine for me when browsing and for other Internet-based widgets. It's just the annoying warning up top in the notification bar about Facebook updates failing.

I've tried deleting my Facebook account on the X10 and then redoing the set-up. No luck... still get that annoying notification warning about Facebook not being able to connect to the Internet for updates when I go into Timescape.

Anyone else get this problem?
[XPERIA X10 General] luckyeleveneleven:
I'm experiencing the same.
[XPERIA X10 General] Nocturnal310:
yup same here.

i posted a similar thread also i think

it says failed to log in in Timescape
[XPERIA X10 General] Ritchied:
I have same problem on two Xperia X10s.

Timescape does update facebook but alway gets error.:(

Has anyone found a solution (that works) yet?
[XPERIA X10 General] uphiel:
Yup same here..... i had this error from 2 weeks ago... So much for Sony's crappy "TIMESCAPE" :confused:

Rooted X10i (R2BA020), Indonesia