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[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zenzation:
For me, it works fine. What you need to do is 'double tab' or 'tab repaetly' at the setting icon to change the setting.

It takes me quite long time to find this out as well. Enjoy.

Note: I'm on MorphGear2.4.0.9_HD2v0.8
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
Anyone who uses system panel knows its the best task manager and the ONLY one that shows the device true multitasking. It's shows 3 categories, active running apps, cached inactive apps, and system processes. All 3 of this group shows up in 2.1. But in 2.2 froyo there is no longer cached apps group. It skips from active apps to system processes.

I asked the developer and he responded with the following:

http://androidforums.com/android-ap...eople-who-hate-task-killers-2.html#post882019

Does anyone know what this means exactly? Has android 2.2 been changed where in no longer pre-loads apps? My observations on froyo using system panel shows that my running app list is now much larger than eclare with no cached apps at all, ever. Has Google changed this and removed cached apps? Or perhaps view are just now hiding it somehow so task managers cannot see this info?

If true then system panel would need an update. But that response from the developer seemed to not indicate that.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
bump. so not ONE person noticed that froyo doesnt cache apps anymore?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] harolds:
this may only be an issue with the pre-released Froyo.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
perhaps, but that seems like a pretty significant change to the OS. i'm wondering if they either changed the way the OS works completely, or if its just a bug that is being fixed for the final release of 2.2.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] diversificationied:
The 2.2 leak has a lot of missing code in it.

alot.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johnnie93:
i hope your right :(
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cigar3tte:
I don't have an N1 so can't answer your question, but I did notice that the developer you spoke to, TESTED FROYO ON A G1!!!
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] harolds:
Seems logical to me to keep out until ready for final release testing, because you can test a lot faster if things aren't being swapped out and in.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mlinz:
He's probably not a developer working on Android, probably just a application dev. Why would he be running a leaked version if he worked at Google.. Also, I think maybe he just doesn't know how to properly form a legible sentence since it would seem he meant other phones he has, not specifically that they are running 2.2, though I could see how you might think that reading what he said.

I would just hold off on questions like this until a final release is out, it's pretty pointless to worry about until Google drops an official OTA update.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
Ok so now that the official froyo is released, and the multitasking STILL works differently, where do we find out what and how things have changed? Cached apps no longer exist, instead all apps show as running in system panel. I'm surprised there's not more mention of this since it seems a fundamental change in OS has occurred. Anyone have any insight?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] khaytsus:
On the technical side I can't speak, but for the end user experience, Froyo's multitasking has been the same or better than before. I experience less "jittery" lag and it seems like more programs are not unloaded (ie: run immediately, no load time at all) vs before if you used say Facebook, then browser, K9 mail, few other things, then back to Facebook it was ~1s to reload.. Maybe Facebook is a bad example here, as it seems to ALWAYS load fast, but you get the gist..

It of course could be the extra ram available now... 512M total vs the 256M before?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Clarkster:
Well, if they did significantly change something, it was really for the better. Things just fly now switching back and forth.

Of course, I was only stock before and only had access to half the memory. So it could just be keeping a lot more of my apps in memory now that it has access to the full 512mb.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
Well using system panel shows that in froyo there is an entire group of missing app now, inactive cached apps, are just flat out gone in froyo. It doesn't seem to be related to the new available RAM in 2.2.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] luojs:
I noticed this on first day on 2.2

I think the possible reason is 2.2 support more than 256M RAM. So the 16MB free RAM threshold is hard to reach now.That's way we didn't see Inactive process. maybe we can try run alot of apps backgroud untill reach 16MB free RAM threshold. Then use systemplane to check if there is any inactive process.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
I've already tried that, gone down to 14 mb but they do not appear. They are completely gone from the OS, and system panel developer already confirmed that they are gone from 2.2 and It's just the way the OS is now. Check the link I posted earlier in the thread. What we need to find out is WHAT and WHY Google made these changes. Why isn't anything mentioned in the changelog etc?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Clarkster:
Are you just interested in knowing why? Or is it affecting you in a bad way? Whatever reason they have, it has improved performance a lot. I just assume they are categorizing them differently now. Because the apps 'running' in the background still aren't really running, they are just waiting in memory in case you need them again.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
I'm just wondering why, and what exactly the changed. My phone runs great with no issues.

Previously system panel showed 3 groups of apps, the first was running apps, and these are the ones actually using some type of resources typically. While the second group was inactive, "frozen" not using any resources.

But now in 2.2 everything goes into the first group. And the OS no longer starts a bunch of apps pre loaded upon boot up. It only loads apps you use now. So still I'm wondering if now these 2 groups are combined into the one active list, can we tell the difference? Or is there no difference anymore, and only running apps are now shown?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Clarkster:
Ok, so the frozen category would be ones that were FCed to release their memory. Which could kind of imply that the OS would remember their state.

Android doesn't remember the state for you if it is no longer in memory. It is up to the app to save its state when it is told it is going into the inactive state.

So it could be that the frozen category wasn't actually anything special, just apps that were forced out of memory, and now they don't even mention them anymore.

You said that you couldn't force anything out of the list though, right? If you can't get anything automatically removed form the list, I would say they just combined the two categories.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
Another thing that changed is that its not possible to kill most apps. Browser and some others can be killed. But for. If most part if you kill something it just stays there running, or immediately pops back up.

But yes the frozen apps list is just plain gone. It was a useless list anyway. But I wonder what exactly they changed and what it means and how it works.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] McTell:
Hello,

As dead as the old Hermes are the links that link to OEM Stripped AT&T Rom here:

http://www.4shared.com/file/61372397/e2bf76c0/official_ATT_WM6_striped.html

....

I want to downgrade from Windows Mobile 6.5.3.3. to 6.1 because 6.5 is in my mind just no made for hermes machines...

whatever...

Can someone Upload that OEM Stripped ROM??? Correct me if I am wrong, but I need to flash that stripped before i install the super naked *****y big storage rom (for each time I flash a Rom)?

HardSPL only once, of course...

Thank you guys!!

mctellies
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Livven:
Look in the +Que ROM thread, the link there works.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] McTell:
Thanks, that is what i needed!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] joshkoss:
Thread closed
[Windows Phone 7 General] Andy7:
Hi guys before some hours Microsoft announce a $5000 competition where they call us to submit and vote an idea for a windows phone 7 which will take place on the real devices with all others Microsoft apps free...

No development skills needed!!! you should just text your idea and describe it correctly and your idea will instantly complete other ideas for the best place. The inventor of the 1st idea will be prized $5000 for a nice holiday...

check out mine...

http://www.windowsphone7.com/ineedthisapp/?pbb_qsi=43237689

have a nice day...

Andy
[Windows Phone 7 General] havox22:
check out mine

http://www.windowsphone7.com/ineedthisapp/?pbb_qsi=43241829

its so you can send & receive text & voice messages to & from the xbox to the phone

edit: dont forget to vote..for mine that is:D
[Windows Phone 7 General] Andy7:
nice idea

nice idea, do you do interesting my idea?
[Windows Phone 7 General] igolfchip:
An Open Letter to Smartphone Users from the founders of appubator, inc.

appubator, inc. Suggests That Users Think Twice Before Participating In Microsoft 'App' Contest

This week, Microsoft announced a contest called "Hey Windows Phone, I Need This App". This contest offers a $5,000 prize to the person whose idea for a new Windows Phone application receives the most votes from the general public.

We at appubator, inc. want to suggest that people think twice before participating in this contest. While a $5,000 prize sounds attractive, there are many drawbacks to your participation.

1) Your great idea for a new smartphone app is no longer yours and out in the open for people to copy.

2) Microsoft is only commiting to develop one mobile app from the hundreds or thousands submitted.

3) No matter how successful your idea is, you will not participate in the revenue that your app provides above the $5,000 prize.

4) Your idea is limited to a single smartphone platform. More than 80% of US smartphone users are on other devices than Windows Phone and you're now missing the opportunity to make money from an app idea for those platforms.

We'd like to suggest instead that you visit our website at appubator.com. appubator develops new mobile apps for the leading smartphone platforms based on ideas submitted from the general public. Unlike the Windows Phone contest:

1) appubator allows you to keep control of your 'app ideas' by keeping them confidential. Just register at www.appubator.com and securely submit your idea to our evaluation team where it remains yours regardless if it is accepted for development.

2) appubator will develop as many apps as there are commercially viable ideas submitted. With appubator, we develop a significant % of the apps that are submitted (not just one as MS suggests in their contest). We've had over 300 submissions so far and have 35 apps under contract / development.

3) While appubator cannot pay $5,000 upfront to one lucky winner, we fund 100% of the app's development and sign a contract that gives each submitter 30% of future revenues.

4) We look to release apps based on approved ideas for all major smartphone platforms in addtion to Windows Phone. This increases the chances for the app to succeed and generate more money for you.

The Microsoft contest is certainly fun and a great way to see your name in lights.

On the other hand, if you'd prefer to have more control of how your ideas are used and want to make real money from the exploiding economy around mobile software and smartphones, be sure to come and visit apppubator at www.appubator.com.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Andy7:
thanks

thanks igolfchip i will take a look...
[Windows Phone 7 General] Andy7:
thank you all

thank you all who supported me (rank 32 of 264)

http://www.windowsphone7.com/ineedt...spx78x253Fbidx253D40032x2526scidx253D538x2526

keep voting...thank you all
[Windows Phone 7 General] XaaR_:
That submission system is horrible, in every way possible.

I think that the one who developed it was TRYING to make is as bad, irritating and un user-friendly as possible.

Why the **** would you block the browsers back function AND open in new tab function. Also, the UI makes no sense at all. It took me several minutes to realize that there actually was a way to step back to the enteries list.

And. The idea at first place is horrible. Who the **** would use that?
[Windows Phone 7 General] style1:
a lot of people apparently. I found it pretty confusing as well...anyway heres my idea

~style~

sorry re did the link
[Windows Phone 7 General] havox22:
you link doesnt lead to your idea try redoing it plz...thanks
[Windows Phone 7 General] anaadoul:
Location based reminder

How about a Location based reminder application? it should be really usefull :D

Support my Idea :D

http://www.windowsphone7.com/ineedthisapp/?pbb_qsi=43312565
[Windows Phone 7 General] style1:
thats a great idea, similar the the Else phone prototype I've been playing with for the past couple days.

~style~
[Windows Phone 7 General] chuck232:
I think the main point of this Microsoft initiative is to allow regular users (not power enthusiasts) to get their ideas out and there and iterate in a community fashion. Already, I've been threads pop up on the site, with people contributing new features and fleshing out applications. Sure, the idea gets out there and is essentially public domain, but if the user truly believes in the idea, perhaps someone else, not necessarily Microsoft will pick it up.

Appubator sounds like a pretty neat business model, but the apps that do get submitted seem to go into a deep, dark hole. There's no visibility into how the final application will develop from the initial kickoff idea. And to play devil's advocate, there's little to stop you from 'rejecting' an idea, only to come up with another application that is but a variation on a theme. I am in no way saying that you have, or will do this.

Both models are valid, I'd just like to throw a somewhat counter-argument out there for people to consider as well. No offence intended at all, Appubator!
[Windows Phone 7 General] idloco:
Hey lol, your idea is like mine!! hahaha its the same concept! only problem is that I put it first XD

http://www.windowsphone7.com/ineedthisapp/?pbb_qsi=43302578
[Windows Phone 7 General] igolfchip:
Thanks for replying to my posts! No offense taken at all.

You bring up few interesting points and since this is out in the public, I'd like to clarify a few things:

appubator isn't intended for power users. Its more for the 'average joe' who uses smartphones and might have a great idea but no understanding or resources to make it happen. By submitting an idea and our current high rate of approvals, they have a real chance of their app making its way to market.

As for your 'black hole' comment, we've worked hard to build a system that's based on secure submission of the idea and to provide timely feedback to the user. When submitted, we score the idea (which the user can see) and look to provide approval / rejection for most ideas within 30 days.

Your point about rejecting then doing variations is the farthest from our minds. We don't believe our business will work f we did not treat submitters fairly and regard their submissions with the highest levels of integrity. There's actually been a case where we independently had an idea prior to a submission, but to ensure that there were not concerns, we recognized the submitter's idea anyway and executed our rev. share agreement.

Basically, we at appubator think that throwing all these ideas out into the public domain is wasteful. There would likely be a dozen or more commercially viable concepts within and folks have better odds of making their $5,000 by working with appubator or other app development houses than this contest.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Deleted member 2070558:
This is my idea, please comment, thanks!
[Windows Phone 7 General] Tm5078:
heres my Automotive/nav App :D

http://www.windowsphone7.com/ineedthisapp?pbb_qsi=43443148&=PP_EntryDetail_538_PPIMEMAIL_PPIMEMAIL
[Windows Phone 7 General] drizo72:
Weather Alarm for Windows Phone

How about supporting my idea?

http://www.windowsphone7.com/ineedthisapp?pbb_qsi=43456444&=PPIMEMAIL

Weather Alarm is an app that checks your current location via my location service and then checks accuweather or other weather service for upcoming weather changes.

Just before the regular alarm clock ring time, the weather alarm checks the weather. If the forecast is significantly different from what it was the last couple of days, the screen flashes at the time of the alarm notifying the user of clothing/accessories he/she must carry for this day (ie. take the umbrella, take a hat and sunglasses, take water with you, take your coat, use non slippy shoes, wear sun lotion etc.)

How do you find my idea? If you like it, please follow the above link. Don't forget to click on that green button on that page saying: "Vote for this entry"

Thanks so much for your support!!!

Dimitris.
[Windows Phone 7 General] style1:
I'm supporting everyone who posts here. I truely hope someone from XDA wins. Microsoft owes its existence to this site, we've been fixing WM since forever, give us some love. I honestly think we should all get together, choose the best idea and have everyone we know vote for that one idea. We might be salting the waters but its for a good cause.

~style~
[Windows Phone 7 General] Halo4WP7:
Halo4WP7

Created this one before the job posting for MS Game Studios for Mobile was even found. Now that we know there's a chance, let's boost it higher!

windowsphone7.com/ineedthisapp/?pbb_qsi=43474572
[Windows Phone 7 General] drizo72:
Just a reminder to all members deciding to vote for the ideas in this thread...

You can vote once per day until the end of the competition, ie July 8th, 2010.

So if you want to support us (and if you have the time of course while checking out XDA developer forums :) ), you can click on each of our idea links on this thread once a day.

Here is my idea for the Weather Alarm app..

http://www.windowsphone7.com/ineedthisapp/?pbb_qsi=43247062&=PBB_ineedthisapp_538_PPIMEMAIL

Thanks!

Dimitris.

PS: Don't forget to click on the green "Vote for this Entry" button of the idea pages ;)
[Windows Phone 7 General] Crudeoil:
1 Household NET

Take control of your expenses the fun way.. home social network, grocery list 2.0, Personal life management.

Location and logging.

http://www.windowsphone7.com/ineedthisapp?pbb_qsi=43740629&=PPIMEMAIL

2 WPBodyguard.

New phones doesn’t have any keypad, and as full touchscreen devices, they are often locked and/or inside their protective cases.

Facing today social issues.. Kidnappings, thieves, danger situations and also health issues…

Are you afraid?... why risk?? TRIGGER!

Are you feeling something going wrong with your body??.. why wait??? TRIGGER!

http://www.windowsphone7.com/ineedthisapp?pbb_qsi=43740406&=PPIMEMAIL

I know my English is far from perfect, but if you find my ideas useful.. please vote them..

Thanks!
[Windows Phone 7 General] rr5678:
One of the most useful ideas. I voted for it
[Windows Phone 7 General] Crudeoil:
I'm glad you like it.. and thank you very much for your vote :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] XaaR_:
I had a really great idea, of a simple, but extremely handy app. Which would also require quite a bit of server power backing it up which I'm not sure that I can provide by myself (at least not for free, and absolutely not wordwide).

Then I saw that the competition is only valid for U.S Residents :(
[Windows Phone 7 General] tsalta:
For ALL peoples who are OUTSIDE U.S.A

Everyone who is Not U.S.A Citizen and Not living in U.S.A Right now Can Judge Microsoft Imideately and i can tell you with 100% Sure that YOU will win the case.

This is totally Discrimination, they cannot post, that they look for idea or something only from U.S Residents.. because they sell the Product WorldWide.. this mean EVERYONE on this Planet is able to Buy a Windows Phone and Everyone on this Planet is free to apply and give suggestions for APPS etc.

I was thinking that big Company like Microsoft have a good lawyers..... But i don`t this this ANYMORE.. and everything im saying is the TRUTH.

If You Don`t believe me Just ask some Lawyer you know about this and will see what he/she will tell you.

They can wrote ONLY for U.S resident If they sell now and they ONLY will sell it in U.S.A
[Windows Phone 7 General] tboy2000:
Please support my idea - an Accelerometer based workout/personal trainer app. Make sure to read the featured review below my entry to get an extra cool idea the app could do.

http://www.windowsphone7.com/ineedthisapp/?pbb_qsi=43291002
[Windows Phone 7 General] Xenithflare:
Aw, I wish I'd known this thread was here :p Posted my own on a different board, because I spaced off that WP7 had its own.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=698214

Or if you dun wanna link to that thread:
[Windows Phone 7 General] htcfreak:
Music Player that has LYRICS

A useful app for MUSIC lovers

Please read & support by voting if you like

http://www.windowsphone7.com/ineedthisapp/?pbb_qsi=44464939#pbbh1673p​
[Windows Phone 7 General] drownage:
Nice entry... seems more like something that should be integrated in WP8 ;)...

Seriously though... how are weather apps and media center apps up in the top 50... anyways guys, here's my entry:

http://www.windowsphone7.com/ineedt...bidx253D40721x2526scidx253D538x2526#pbbh1587p

This app is basically the first step in making the first terminator/iRobot/etc ;)... given WP7 specs and all, its certainly possible :D...

prolly not gonna win, but if anyone is interested in making it, i'd be glad to start on some development team for it :D...
[Windows Phone 7 General] xTmDarren:
here is my idea:windowsphone7.com/ineedthisapp/?pbbdesturl=x252fPagesx252fBlogsx252fBlogView.aspx78x253Fbidx253D41449#pbbh1457p

I am only 28- and I dont have any kids that are old enough to drive to worry about bc my son is only 3 but I thought this would be a great idea and it could help save lifes.. :)

also they're a lot of awesome great ideas posted so far!
[Windows Phone 7 General] digitalhater:
Vote my idea for a new Windows Phone 7 application!

You don’t have to sign up and it takes less than 10 seconds!

You can vote once every 24 hours so, please do so!

Please share it with your friends if you like it!

Thank you somuch!

http://www.windowsphone7.com/ineedthisapp/?pbb_qsi=43860842
[Windows Phone 7 General] techSage:
Video Game Tie-ins for WP7 to Allow Leveling Up, Customizing, Minigames

My idea is to have minigames or tie-ins to video existing video games running on Windows Phone 7 so that you can level-up, customize characters/vehicles or play minigames or interact with & care for in-game characters (like NintenDogs, etc, but linked to games like Viva Pinata or Kinectimals). Microsoft has the influence in the video game industry to make this happen with games you love, so please vote for my idea every day if you can and make this happen!