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[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Negrito:
It's just a phone, stop trying to watch Blu-Rays in Dolby Digital on it... :p

Not to bust your bubble though, but i seriously doubt that more then three people including you want WinMo on the Evo. Your best bet would to learn programming yourself and see if you could do it.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] carlos64030:
LOL! I'm not really interested in watching movies on my phone. To be honest with you, I never thought the video quality was all that great on WinMo powered phones anyway... especially when compared to watching videos on my Palm Treo 700p.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AllanonMage:
Even on my Uni I could never really get video playback working smoothly of the network, which sucked. I think it was better locally though...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ninja_unmatched:
Stop trying to watch Blu-Rays in Dolby? How you sound? When this has been done already on just a phone running WinMO.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ninja_unmatched:
Also with the T-mobile HD2 being basically/somewhat same phone I think it is possible...

Oh look: HD2 Specs

Modes	GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900

WCDMA 1700 / 2100

versions for other regions support different 3G network bands

Doesn't Sprint use 1900 band? Maybe there are other versions or the radio can be flash with the EVO radio firmware (prob not)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Negrito:
Not like you could actually watch them in true HD so i fail to see the point...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] freeza:
I wouldn't mind having Windows Mobile 6.1 on the EVO. Before I got this device, I had a Touch Pro2 cooked with my own WM6.1 ROM running absolutely beautifully with zero issues, lags, freezes, slowdowns, or otherwise. Infact, it was probably the best experience i've had on a smart phone.

Maybe, it was because I took my time learning the OS, cooking hundreds (yes hundreds) of ROMs to achieve what I consider a perfect ROM, or maybe it was because I didn't try to include the latest HTC drivers/software from other phones, or eye candy, but in either case, my phone performed wonderfully and the only reason I got rid of it was simply because of 4G and Microsoft's abandonment of the Windows Mobile i've come to know. That, and I don't think Sprint will release any Windows Mobile phones with 4G. So, Instead of being like the sworn-by Windows XP users who won't upgrade even when new crap comes out, I opted to upgrade. However, sometimes I do miss my TP2.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ninja_unmatched:
You miss the point because we are not talking about HD. We are talking about just being able to play our video files.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gbm85:
Why anyone would drain their phone battery and waste their phone's CPU cycles by decoding non-native video formats is beyond me. Converting may be a minor annoyance, but it's worth it for the extra horsepower and battery life. Not to mention you can push the bitrates way higher with native formats.

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[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ninja_unmatched:
Okay people...Android is not all you pump it up to be. Don't be like the close-minded Apple folks who cannot seem to understand the possibility that there can be stuff better who are mainly just mystified by the shear aesthetics of the Apple OS.

Android is proving to be no different than WinMo... Well were are looking at better hardware now so the issues are less apparent. But Android how do you keep track of you apps running in the background? Where is the task manager? or do you have continually drag down the notification bar to maybe get a view of what is running?

If I install a lot of apps does Android not degrade or act funny? The answer is yes.....like any OS out there today. At least Microsoft has a solution for that with Windows Phone 7. Do not count out Microsoft when you ALL know there is something else in the works. May I add the flash support in Phone 7? Can I also add the networking features? (i.e. Cloud=my own space where I can stream my own music,videos, and access files.)

People unless the Great Android people figure out how to not make the same mistakes in Android as WinMo then they are headed in same direction.

Android is nice but at a time where phones are better?.......Cannot compare.

WinMo is not dead......it is in a cocoon right now.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LargePrime:
I am a total 'nix head, and have great dislike for Windows after decades of MS development.

But the evidence tells me that winmo is lighter than any mobile OS I have seen.

Even now the latest versions of winmo run on lower hardware specs than android can run. Perhaps that is because 'nix devs do not care about older phones. Perhaps because all the dev funding is into hotter phones. I don't know.

But if WinMo 6.5.x will run quick on a Titan, what will it do on a EVO?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gbm85:
That is such a load and I can disprove it easily. I have used an HD2 which runs WM6.5 on a 1GHz Snapdragon and it is not faster at anything than my stock Evo. Go play with an HD2 yourself if you don't believe me.

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[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ninja_unmatched:
We are still talking about the differences of Regular Windows and Linux here. Windows equaled more used resources and HD space. It is still no different as far I can tell.

Microsoft to stay in the game just has to go against what has been just a known Windows fact. Which looks like they are doing in Phone 7. Just have to wait and see. Same goes for Android.......they may improve things as times goes by. I hear Froyo is a real improvement even at its Beta stages so...

I still am more interested in WinMo though. Even though the Evo 4G has been rooted. I may play with that and see. I do see some hope for Android though in their App Market. So much on there. I have been able to find games (not pay for them.) and the emulator apps are cool. I have super mario playing on my GF's Evo and Aphalt 5 which looks even better on the Evo. Only issue is trying to play the games with only having the touch screen. You will find yourself pushing the screen in like crazy using the onscreen control pads. Think about it.....do you remember playing Super Nintendo? Do you also remember how you hacked at the control pad to play the games. Picture hacking like that to play the games on the phone now.....
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Negrito:
Thats if you can use it for 5-10 minutes without it freezing up on you! I constantly have to hear it from my boss about how her phone is always freezing up...

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[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Negrito:
Yeah, and I also remember i shelled out $500 for my Evo, and that it is NOT a $20 game controller. Your point is mute, and honestly if you cant tell the difference between a cell phone and a game controller you should seek help of some kind. :)

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[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ninja_unmatched:
My point is, in case you missed it which is very apparent, that Android is proving to be no different than WinMo and that time will tell. Android has better hardware to work with than WinMo did. Also Windows really has a thing for being for people that understand it, that knows why it freezes and can fix it. Which is where the custom ROMs came in. (Same for desktop Windows. This is how I have made money.)

What I know is this, I have the Touch Pro 2 and have Flashed it with the Sprint Lover's ROM and it runs well. Still freezes, a lot less I may add, but I can do what I want with my phone. If I wanna play AVI files I download using the Fuze app I found I can do so. I can take control of my PC when I get lazy to do whatever I please, including playing World of Warcraft (through the phone for basic stuff of course.) I can even choose to not use SenseUI, freeing up a lot memory and use SPB Mobile and the phone will not even freeze (at least in my experience when I tried it for awhile.) My screen tilts so watching stuff on it is convenient. The phone still turns heads regardless.

I like the EVO, love it, but I'll be fighting to find ways to get things working that I do now with the TP2 so for now TP2 is more practical for me. Me and the HD2 like phone on sprint would be perfect. The freezing I'll fix. Let's not 4get it is HTC and the carriers (that adds more crap and more problems) that creates the software.

Android has its appeal for carriers because it is harder (if you know anything about linux) for people like us to unlock what these carriers block. But there is a large linux following so....let's see what happens.

My using phone as a control pad thing was not the point. I was just adding in the abuse the phone is gonna take by people. Oh and people will do it. I put the emulator on GF's phone and she showed it off to her co-workers. When their conversation changed to playing super Nintendo games she showed him the emulator on the phone so now he and like 3 others that saw it want to switch to Sprint for the EVO. Especially since T-mobile decided to put signs up saying all phones were free today but when you go to ask about the HD2 things change. So people will try that stuff. And yes the phone is NOT a controller and this is the problem but it will not stop people... So the point in adding the controller thing was just a side note but NOT THE POINT. sheesh.

Also by the way have more patience...wait for the update eligibility if the $500 price tag is too much for ya. (Which it must be if you felt the need to add that in.)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrono:
Win-mo will NEVER be on the evo, not much else I can say. I went from win-mo to android and could do everything I could on win-mo, on android and then some.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rdboyce:
So from a one person to another, I can't believe I read this entire thread. I feel like my IQ dropped 10 points reading people defend Win-Mo.

Its very simple. Win-mo is dead. I've had the opportunity to play with some Win-mo 7 on decent hardware for my company. Its crap just like win-mo.

The truth is everyone tends to favor what they have. I left Win-mo for iPhone . The left my iPhone for the Evo. Guess what?!? I love my Evo like I loved my iPhone and my various Win-mos(ok TBT, I hated all of my old win-mo phones except my HTC Prophet).

If you want to wax poetic about your superior Win-mo OS great. Enjoy it. I'm glad you have a tool that works for you. But Android has one thing that Win-Mo never had; the real ability to scale outside of a specific market of users.

iPhone and Android has brought new smartphone users into the fold; smartphone users that are learning the full power of there new tools and out pacing the Win-mo learning curve in leaps and bounds.

The next time you say OSa can't do what OSb can, take the time to know what you are saying before you put fingers to keys.

Don't speak unless you can improve the silence.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ninja_unmatched:
All your claims...mean nothing.... Prove it. Also any1 who shows any strong feelings over this thread.... Find something more important to be passionate about.

I have no doubt it can be done.... Android will be great. But I'm talking the present.

Like I said I love the EVO....but for now.....it is not ready. Apple and Android has only made smartphones more simple...period. Don't give them more credit than they are due. Ooooh you rooted the phone..okay. But the question is what did YOU actually do with your WinMo? Cause sure isn't what I do if you believe that. Also your phone is rooted? B4 the OTA update or after? Your IQ? Hah, if it was high enough you'd be able to see the point here. As for IQs, the new OSs have brought users with lower IQs. You are gonna have people with these phones that most will never use the features for. But from a marketing standpoint that is good business. True wisdom moves a person to speak non-offensive. I can post what I want. It is just crazy that people take offense to bad talking technology and software. What is that about? I could see if you were the creator then.....so chill out man. Besides, you still read it so.... you know this thread interests you.

But I'm all for it....If you can do a lot then share it. But don't come on here just talking about it. Prove it... So you really should post again and post useful stuff like where I am wrong and how you did it cause just saying I'm wrong is empty rhetoric. If you have stuff somewhere online then post links. If you can play AVI files with AC-3 audio and the Xvid encoding on your EVO then show people how u did it. Because this is THE purpose in all my postings...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ninja_unmatched:
Oh and I have WInMo 7 too and it is just too early to make comments on it...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ninja_unmatched:
Can anyone add light to his post? Prove his claims?...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ninja_unmatched:
Oh may I add?..... Lets see:

How is it I can play videos at a higher framerate on say a Hero phone than the lovely EVO 4G? This is what I am talking about. HTC, Google, Apple, can make the stuff but it is the community that makes it better. Now the iphone 4 is coming out with its "retina display"? Duh, sounds like Apple trying to make another WiFi technology and calling it Airport or Sony taking a firewire port and calling it ilink.

Come on people. Never have too much faith in a software OS or a phone. You think you are bad cause you have the dum! dum! dum! EVO 4G? A copy is already coming to verizon....Droid X. If it is truth. We have 1.3 1.5Ghz processors...oh! look!......dual core....for a phone....wow. I think my money would be more well spent on these phones.

EVO 4G is only the beginning so stop sounding like Apple people that walk around with 2 boards on the left and right side of their face. Lose some of your EVO greatness feeling and lets see who can put WinMo on an EVO because this regardless of WinMo's reliability would be the Tour De Force of the moment.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rdboyce:
Wow man. SMH... Three posts and you found a Lao Tzu quote. Two words; less caffeine. If you really want it done so badly, get off the boards and port it yourself. Or you can try YXPlayer. I frankly haven't tried it myself because all my stuff is h.264.

If you have tried it and it didn't work for you; I tried to be helpful. I realize that you may have taken a lot a flame for this thread but dude chill. Everyone one has a right to his or her opinion. You included. But know that when you express your opinion, you open yourself up to criticism.

You grow up, suck it up and flame off. Your other option is this tit for tat, 'yes I'm a FanBoy and YOU'RE WRONG I'M RIGHT YOU'RE WRONG I'M RIGHT YOU'RE WRONG TOO WAAAAA' thing you have been doing versus engaging is a conducive discourse.

I'm already sure you are 'Flame On' already but dude chill. A better way to approach your same inquiry would have been to ask, what are the barriers to getting Windows Mobile ported to an EVO.

See how that starts a discussion.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] exstatica:
ninja_unmatched, Lets break this down.

You're saying windows mobile is no different then Android.

First some History. I was a windows mobile user back in 2004 when the Blue Angel was released. From there I was hacking phones left and right. I get a new phone every year and I've had every upgrade of hardware that exists.

There is no smartphone (hardware wise) that is going to make winmo any better. Its bloated, it hangs, it doesn't implement bluetooth correctly, its well, old.

Now Android you say, you have to install all these applications to do anything. Thats the way it is with any phone. Oh just because winmo came with remote desktop makes it a better? I like my phones to come with very little installed, and I'd like to install what I want.

So lets just break out some of the important things

Task Manager, Windows mobile doesn't have one, how do you switch between applications? oh you have to get an addon, with the evo 4g hold down the home key. Battery usage? The Android shows a clear detail of what is consuming battery. If you want something better then download one of the many free apps in the store.

Music Player, never mind the player on winmo, try playing an mp3 and then getting a phone call, or browse the web. It makes your phone crawl.....

Camera, hardware or not, just try to take a decent clear picture. If you ask anyone who has winmo how you take a picture this is the response. "Oh you launch the program, and you tell everyone to stay still for 10 seconds. When i snap the picture it may be delayed..... ok cheese... wait.... wait... wait ok got it."

the list goes on and on. Every issue you have with it, the stock winmo does not do. You're looking at winmo from a Cooked rom standpoint. Of course if you're running a cooked rom you're going to see fancy task managers, and cool video players, and a better performance.

Go look at the Android rom forums, you'll see the same thing.

For the future of Android? Its only going to get better, Do you release Android is a year and a half old? Windows mobile is what 10 years old? Android did what winmo couldn't do in 6 months.

I recommend you watch the Google IO presentation on Froyo, and see whats coming in the next few months. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a46hJYtsP-8

Look its this simple....

I came from a windows mobile background, I then switched to WebOS, and now with Android. Windows Mobile is dying, and if you think winmo 7 is going to be anything like the old winmo you have a lot to learn. Its not going to be anything like the old system, its going to be like what Apple and Google are doing with phones. Not to mention its not going to run any of the old windows applications. They are positioning themselves to become a new platform, with new revenue, a new app store, and the days of winmo warez is over.

Either you change the way you use a smartphone or the smart phone will force you too. Its up to you how fast you want to make that change. Either way... Its coming.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ninja_unmatched:
Finally people something useful... Oh and your camera comment. It is no different on the EVO 4G. The picture stabilization (on a phone) you are referring to doesn't exist yet. Like I said earlier my GF has the EVO and taking pictures and recording videos on it is no different.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ninja_unmatched:
Actually the thread has gone off course anyways. People somehow took the idea of WinMo on the EVO personal which I find very funny. I also find it funny that people still continue to omit my actual neutrality in the matter. Just look back on my posts. I'm quit sure there are solutions for Android like Logmein Ignition for Android whenever they go public with it. The the player you suggested seems okay I'll try it later. but like I said the Android Market has a lot. Only thing I will say is can Android get away from being too linux-like. Linux's look is always pretty much the same from Distro to Distro. The graphics always have an almost generic look (VESA graphics) even when you get 3d going. Kubuntu alters the KDE bar which improves it a lil but other aspects are still the same. I still like it though. Android's still has that linux look.

If I had not taken my chosen approach I doubt the thread would have as many posts as it does now. So the end of this approach has come since finally someone has been smart enough to see it.

Now back to the topic: Who cares to take on the trouble of porting WinMo to the EVO? HTC I know uses the same hardware a lot across different phones. (CDMA vs. GSM of course being different as far as the radio is concerned)

Oh and my LaoTzu quote I have been using on different sites like Sprintusers but never paid attention on XDA enough to notice I was not using it here.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] extrafuzzyllama:
if u r so unhappy with android learn to program and make ur own winmo rom
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ninja_unmatched:
Winmo 7?.......Too early to say. I know of all the restrictions they have placed on this new OS. If they keep that up then I will be moving eventually to Android but I see they will have to budge. I'm saying....no cut copy and paste because they feel most will not need it.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] red man:
I wish winmo would have worked out but I think its crap, I had the hd2 beautiful phone but it was winmo coveted with sense, I had winmo osx and now my first Android phone and I love it wish hd2 was Android love its hard buttons and back plate

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[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rdude:
Look, this thread needs to die. It has gone so far askew.

To answer the OP's question: never going to happen. This is regardless of the relative merits of Windows Mobile or Android, or the fact that one may be better than the other or whatever. The problem is that Windows Mobile is closed source and the EVO 4G does actually have a lot of hardware that is significantly different from the HD2. Drivers for all this hardware would have to be rewritten and somehow hacked into a closed-source OS.

The scope of this task is so large that even if you could find a team that is motivated to do it, you won't be able to finish it by the time Windows Phone 7 is released. At that point, your work will become instantly obsolete. Not to mention that the EVO will be dated by then so any remaining will to port Windows onto it will drop to zero.

I think this about summarizes it (and I hope we can close out this thread, which is the fourth or fifth one on this topic):
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ninja_unmatched:
Not unhappy about it yet I am optimistic about it but at same time I speak facts.

Now Froyo on the other hand has possibilities. Auto updating of apps...... Exchange support up to get this: the Global Catalog. Now that can make my life easier at work. Iphone cannot do that and ppl have to sync phone separately in a sense to backup contacts.

There are other features I saw have promise and I would use like the addons for the browser to say send links to the phone or actually send your map direction search to the freakin phone. Plus Google keeps it Open so who knows what will come out that will use this ability.

No 1 will really ever know my standpoint on the subject because I stay objective on the subject. Been in it too long to get hyped up by new stuff that ends up crashing like Amp'd mobile and Helio.