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[Hero CDMA General] bigupurself7:
I just read the specs for the Hero 2 and it does not have the snapdragon or a faster processor. Sounds kinda lame, now I wish we were getting the N1.
[Hero CDMA General] doojer:
What's wrong with Hero 1?
[Hero CDMA General] seyer0686:
The problem is, it's not the latest and greatest anymore. Everyone, save a few, always want what's new and hot at the moment. As soon as the next phone comes out, all these people will be saying how much the EVO sucks in comparison.
[Hero CDMA General] abcdfv:
Link? I can only find rumor posts from February.
[Hero CDMA General] Visionikz03:
After browsing the Evo forums and hearing of all the disappointing realizations that clears 4g is not all it's hyped up to be and real world speeds are hardly impressive more often than not i cant help but chuckle. Not to mention as the OP said that thing is like a 1/8 scale ipad! plus im not going to fork over $450 for the first 4g device that will inevitably have it's fair share of bugs more than it already has. And for such a big screen u would thing HTC would have at least implemented 256k colors at the minimum. I know AMOLEDs are a bit more expensive. Why the 65k cap? I bought the hero back in October when it first came out so my Premier upgrade isn't due til this October. Id rather wait until 4g gets developed further and coverage increases dramatically. Plus i've got my hero rooted, overclocked, customized and running like a dream. I can live without the extra 232 mhZ (im running 768mhZ) til something a bit more solid comes to the market. My hero and i have been thru a lot and it can still do just about everything the Evo can do just at slightly less speed and fashion but i'm perfectly content with that. But inevitably this forum will fade into the background as most forums do when a new device is released cuz everyone feels like they have to be part of the new phone bandwagon every time something better comes out. Just like cp0200 said the hero is a badass phone if u customize it just right. Hopefully a few devs will stick around :)
[Hero CDMA General] ripleys:
I picked my EVO up at 8:00 AM yesterday, and returned it around noon today. One of my reasons for returning it was the disappointing performance of 4G here in Kansas City. I get better, more consistent speeds with 3G. Another reason was the size of the thing. I agree with you all, it is too big. I think if they had gone with a 3.7 inch screen, it would have been the perfect size. Every time I handled it, I was afraid that I was going to drop it. These two things had me wanting my Hero back.
[Hero CDMA General] DevinXtreme:
To be perfectly honest, I'm completely disappointed with the EVO. I don't have one, but I've played with my friends, and my Hero just feels so much more stable. It might be that I'm running Darchdroid, or it might be that I just like the phone more.

The EVO is wayyy too big. I want my phone to fit in my pocket comfortably.

The software is the same HTC Sense crap. Why can't Sprint get a good vanilla Android phone? I was so excited when I heard the Nexus One was coming to Sprint and soooo disappointed when I heard it was cancelled for the EVO. And now that the EVO is out, I'm even more upset. The Nexus One is the perfect size and is plenty fast for my taste.

I found out I earned my upgrade last month, but there is no way I'm going to use it on the EVO. The extra $10 a month, crappy 4G I've been hearing about, and just the general unappealing aesthetics of the phone are more than enough to make me never want one for myself. I love my Hero, and I'll love it until I can get a decent vanilla Android phone on Sprint. Or I'll terminate early and go to T-Mobile... I've already been offered to have my ETF covered by them. :rolleyes:
[Hero CDMA General] Visionikz03:
If TMo's service wasn't so crappy where I live I would've stayed with them but obviously reliable service is more important than which carrier has the coolest phones :(
[Hero CDMA General] mserica513:
I dont think the EVO is too big, I think my Hero is too small :( when I can upgrade I will, I want a bigger touch screen, makes it easier to type IMO
[Hero CDMA General] tatonka_hero:
assuming something better doesn't come out by october, that Evo will be hanging out in my back pocket (when it's not busy being worked hard in my hands), much the same way my Hero sits in my back pocket most of the time
[Hero CDMA General] notasimpleway:
That's what she said.
[Hero CDMA General] sdotcarlisle:
kc w00t w00t. kegs and eggs june 16th mumford and sons is playing 5am at firefly lounge. back on topic yea i really want the evo but i know something better will be out shortly. i may end up getting it anyway though
[Hero CDMA General] grifforama:
I agree with most of the comments here.

I checked one out here in Manhattan, and the 4G speeds were not too great.

It just feels way too big.

And someone commented before, it's the same 2.1 Sense ****. Feels laggy.

I am staying with Hero until the end of the year, then looking at my options.
[Hero CDMA General] nebenezer:
The EVO is not too big. Your hands are too small ;)

It is like a micro tablet computer, which is what I LOVE about it!!!

The thing is freakin awesome.
[Hero CDMA General] Kcarpenter:
If you guys thing the EVO is too big, have you seen the Dell Streak specs?? It has a full 5 inch screen! And I want one of those too LOL
[Hero CDMA General] gunnyman:
If anybody HATEs their Evo, send it to me I will make sure it gets disposed of properly :D
[Hero CDMA General] iczerjones:
The EVO is a sweet device. It did not disappoint in the slightest when I toyed with a coworker's recently. I would have to agree with the OP's statement though, the thing is kinda silly big.

I think that if I was going for an upgrade, regardless of carrier, it would likely end up being the Nexus One or Incredible. Both are just about the right size, spec, etc. (for me)
[Hero CDMA General] d12bn:
Well

Its not to big just to heavy. I would prefer a little smaller screen but may get one anyway
[Hero CDMA General] glen4cindy:
I agree! Evo is way too big!

I went into the Sprint store because I am still within my 30 days of purchasing my Hero so, I could trade up if I wanted to. BUT, Evo is

too big, AND I am not willing to KEEP PAYING for the Evo, YEAR after

YEAR as long as I have it!

So, for now, I'll stay with 3G, until they find a reason to UP my fees

for that too.
[Hero CDMA General] BrianDigital:
.........can you edit the title and add imo.....I like the size unless my opinion doesn't count
[Hero CDMA General] Jus10o:
I absolutely love the size of the Evo.

After messing with my friends, and then picking my hero up. I was just sad inside.

I usually dont watch movies, but youtube and web browsing i do like to do. I like to see things big, kinda like wanting a bigger monitor, bigger tv, etc.. While i like how some things get smaller, I like my phone to get bigger (slightly). Soon we will have a projected screen, only when needed. And it will be as powerful as a pc with a projected touch screen keyboard. Only viewable by the owner unless they say someone else can look.

Yes i dont want to carry around a little tablet, but I love the size of the Evo. Unless you are a girl or a guy with skin tight jeans on, i would say it fits in just about every persons pocket and fits into the average persons hands quite well.

Iphone 3gs width= 62.1mm

Htc Evo width= 66mm

Iphone 3gs height= 115.5mm

Htc Evo height= 122mm

I dont think its a huge difference. Just more to look at and admire.
[Hero CDMA General] iczerjones:
As a media device, I couldn't agree more! It does fill a nice niche as a pocketable tablet, imo. After using it, my Hero seemed so tiny!

As a phone, I do prefer a smaller form factor - so the Hero fits me well. (although the sheer awesome of the Evo is damn tempting!)
[Hero CDMA General] unCoRrUpTeD:
Screw the Evo..In 6 months I'll be getting something with this in it....

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2010-06/2/qualcomm-shows-off-dual-core-mobile-phone-processors?page=all
[Hero CDMA General] Jus10o:
I was actually gunna wait for the same thing.. I read a big article on it. I was gunna skip the Evo and get the next big sprint android phone. But that also depends how much money i have, how cheap the Evo is, and if its fully rootable by that time.
[Hero CDMA General] bigupurself7:
I agree, 6 months sounds good, but 6 months ago we heard about the Evo, I hear nothing right now!
[Hero CDMA General] abcdfv:
I'm thinking 3.7 is perfect screen size. Any bigger and it does border on ridiculous.
[Hero CDMA General] Jus10o:
Yeah i agree. If a phone includes this, its not going to a sprint phone and maybe not even an android. I say 1 more year or more there might be another sprint android with better hardware then the Evo.

Also i would want a 4.0 size screen. Id be happy. I still take 4.3 though
[Hero CDMA General] abcdfv:
I give it 1/2 of a year tops, and possibly 3/4 year til we get it.
[Hero CDMA General] Jus10o:
Yea but they put so much into the Evo and the sells were very good compared to any phone they have ever had. It will also support 2.2 android. So I say sprint will ride this one for a while. Then next summer might release something else or 3rd quarter 2011.
[Hero CDMA General] usq:
that was my thought too: an emo wearing skin tight jeans with small hands would balk at the size.

but... that is compared to the iphone which i see as being quite bulky for the size of the screen. the hero seems so compact compared to it.

just as a comparison-

hero width- 56mm

length- 112

i checked out the evo today and liked it pretty well but considering how spotty 4g, the lack of 'real' roms (yet... i know they will be coming quickly), the full cost (not out of contract for another 6 months) and knowing darn well how much can change in that amount of time... i will certainly wait and enjoy my hero until then.

cheers,

ryan
[Hero CDMA General] DirtyShroomz:
Def not too big, these girls just have small hands... The phone is an amazing device, those complaining are honestly just looking for an excuse to make themselves feel better about not having one... Why would anyone NOT want the best device on the market? Of course it will be outdated in a while, just like that "dream" device that you're waiting for after the Evo will be outdated shortly after...
[Hero CDMA General] abcdfv:
From wrist to palm: 8 1/2 inches.

I think the Evo is too big.

I don't think they're gonna ride on it, they'd make more money to release the newest latest and greatest device 6 months from now, then everyone that stuck with the Hero/Moment will have their upgrade and upgrade to it, and the Evo guys will want to buy it outright if it's reasonably priced.
[Hero CDMA General] DirtyShroomz:
Any specific reason why you know that off the top of your head? Or did you really just go get a ruler right now? You know that rumor is a lie right...?
[Hero CDMA General] abcdfv:
I took an anatomy class in HS and we had to measure our body parts and do a scale drawing. I'm also really good at remembering numbers, so I knew it off the top of my head. The rumor might not be true, but in my case it is unfortunately.
[Hero CDMA General] westicle:
:D abcdfv, you funny mofo.
[Hero CDMA General] abcdfv:
Only when I'm in a good mood. Otherwise I can be a downright prick.
[Hero CDMA General] westicle:
......:Dapparently an 8 1/2 inch prick
[Hero CDMA General] abcdfv:
ZIING. Haha, good man. I like you. You need help you ask me.
[Hero CDMA General] westicle:
right on yo
[Hero CDMA General] abcdfv:
So you an Ebay adopter?
[Hero CDMA General] DirtyShroomz:
Whatever helps you sleep at night yo ;) You're 8 1/2 inch hands should have no issues holding a tiny 4 inch device. Def a big phone but your ego has that beat by a few inches huh?
[Hero CDMA General] abcdfv:
It's not an issue of holding it, it's just my opinion that it is too big and a fact that I do not have tiny hands.
[Hero CDMA General] westicle:
no way man, no ebay adopter, had the phone since october. been rooted since january. im actually on my 3rd hero (im hard on them at work) i just never posted much man, didnt have much to say or really enough knowledge to spit bull**** like a lot of other folks on here. i just keep to myself and keep flashing.:)
[Hero CDMA General] abcdfv:
Ah. I was hoping for some new life.
[Hero CDMA General] westicle:
yeah that prob wont be happening too much, everybody want the evo but im not about to get one because i know that if i can destroy a hero unintentionally then the evo has no chance in my hands... plus the ****er is just too big.
[Hero CDMA General] abcdfv:
I'm holding out for SnapDragon + QWERTY Keyboard.

If only you were a SnapDragon. (Note: Rumored to be coming to Cellular South, which has great coverage in my area)
[Hero CDMA General] westicle:
plus no sense to get in the way
[Hero CDMA General] DirtyShroomz:
Why do you hate Sense? I dont see why ppl hate sense... I love it.
[Hero CDMA General] abcdfv:
It's perceived as slower then AOSP and bloated with extra software.
[Hero CDMA General] DirtyShroomz:
Keyword: Perceived. Remove the bloatware and enjoy the advantages of it.
[Hero CDMA General] abcdfv:
That's the thing, it's so deeply embedded it causes FC to remove. Part of the reason I'm on DarchDroid is because I much prefer the AOSP dialer, but the HTC dialer can't be removed without breaking the phone function.
[Hero CDMA General] blulitespecial:
Not that sense is too slow (even though it is), it's that it feels bulky and cluttered and not simple like vanilla android.

I wish DarchDroid was complete, but until it is I'm sitting on an AOSP knock-off and an ugly htc dialer.

as for the evo size....i'm still unsure about it. it looks pretty huge. i could go for a milestone too.
[Hero CDMA General] abcdfv:
Just lacking MMS receive.
[Hero CDMA General] DirtyShroomz:
I have yet to know what this "bulky" feeling is... But to each their own I guess. There's not enough replacements out there for Sense to make me part ways yet
[Hero CDMA General] blulitespecial:
i know, but i use mms.
[Hero CDMA General] Droidish:
Can anyone tell me how it compares to a BB Curve? I liked the feel of that and the hero (I think) is a bit small.
[Hero CDMA General] Hero's Hero:
EVO is a big ass phone. I'm still getting used to it, it's hard baha.

but, EVO ftw. Hero is past.
[Hero CDMA General] doojer:
Bulky is when something is too large in your hand and doesn't fit in your pocket well.... like the EVO.
[Hero CDMA General] nebenezer:
..................
[Hero CDMA General] doojer:
No, seriously, the thing is bulky even with huge hands and cargo pants.

It's gigantic.
[Hero CDMA General] nebenezer:
Completely agree, only for me it's a reason I can't wait to have one :D

It is enormous but I love it!
[Hero CDMA General] doojer:
I'd use it if someone gave me a free one without a contract. Just wouldn't spend actual money on it or sign up for another 2 years of Sprint. :eek:
[Hero CDMA General] markus_del_marko:
I had one in my hands yesterday at the sprint store in the mall, the thing is too big for my tastes. i compared it to my hero and the thing is 3x as big lmao. I wouldn't buy one but id take one for free.
[Hero CDMA General] nebenezer:
I wonder if it chews up ram...:rolleyes:
[Hero CDMA General] markus_del_marko:
I dunno but why are you always such a smartass towards me?
[Hero CDMA General] nebenezer:
huh???

I'm confused :mad:
[Hero CDMA General] funcrusher:
hahaha

oh my.
[Hero CDMA General] tejasrichard:
I truly don't get all the *****ing about the size of the evo. A couple of my friends got theirs on the 4th and, after playing with them off and on for 5 days, I am no longer happy with my hero. I already dedicate a pocket to my hero, so that difference is nonexistant. Having more screen-acreage also equals much larger keyboard, and MUCH BETTER web experience. I don't know about the rest of you, but I use my Hero 95% as a tiny computer/web-machine, 3% as a GPS device, 1.9% as a phone, and .1% as a camera. (yeah, that's right. Topping out at around 100-115 minutes per month) There is not one aspect for which I'd rather keep the hero over the evo. The only complaints I've had so far is 4g not as fast as advertised, and a lack of hacks....and I'm betting both of these will be fixed in short order.
[Hero CDMA General] DirtyShroomz:
Its an excuse to not purchase one due to lack of money/upgrade. The giant screen makes everything look amazing. While yes it is a big phone, why do people buy 60 inch tv's or suv's? As far as 4g speed, that will be worked out shortly, lets call this the beta device for the network.
[Hero CDMA General] nebenezer:
1k% agree with both of you

My hero is not a phone that does some other cool stuff. It is a pocket sized computer that also has a phone in it...

actual phone usage is probably less than 5% for me, I can't wait to have an evo sized bulge in my pants... lol. I also can't wait to hand-me-down my evo to my g/f at the end of the year so I can get whatever is next.

I've found that hobbies become more affordable the less of them you have. I gave up flying rc helicopters so I could afford to do other stuff so dropping $500 on a device like the evo is well worth it IMO.
[Hero CDMA General] Jus10o:
I so agree with the last 3 posts..

And aslo agree with having less hobbies saves money. It just sucks when my hobbies are electronics, its like every 2 weeks something better is being annouced or released. Its soooo expensive trying to even somewhat keep up.
[Hero CDMA General] doojer:
Haha! Yes, that's it.... I am so poor.... what am I going to do??? :confused:

Either that... or I just prefer a smaller phone. Shocking! I know.... but one of the things I always hated about the iPhone was how huge it was.... same with EVO.

Plus, I know you EVO guys can't relate.... but some of us have full pockets even when they are empty. ;) Perhaps this need for phone size is a form of compesation?? :)

The real question is.... WTF is this thread doing in the Hero section? It says a lot about people when they need to come beat their chest about their new toy and start crying when we're not impressed.
[Hero CDMA General] Visionikz03:
seems there are LOTS of issues plaguing the newly evoers. OTA update apparently caused a 100% awake issue us Hero owners trudged thru back in late 09... add that on to less than impressive 4G (not the fault of the EVO) and it seems like unless u find joy in having slightly dysfunctional "cutting edge" device, it would be worthwhile to wait until its bugs r worked out so that u can get more from the device from day one not month 4 or 5. By no means am i bashing the EVO, it will be an awesome device once its needed fixes and updates r implemented.
[Hero CDMA General] doojer:
This is my problem with recent technology. The updates and fixes won't be implemented. They will show up in a new device that everyone will flock to and drop their first born on. It's becoming silly, IMO.
[Hero CDMA General] DirtyShroomz:
Yes because your **** is so big it must be pushed up and rested inside your pocket... The only one needing compensation is you talking about your **** in a thread full of guys.

Anyway, look under your couch you might find some spare change.

Im sorry you dont like the size but I bet if the phone were your dream size you would buy it, no? Size is just an excuse.

I still think the slogan for the phone should be "HTC Evo... The only time you'll hear a girl say 4 inches is huge."
[Hero CDMA General] qngds:
People use their phones in different ways. Some like the whole video experience. I never use video, mostly just text, podcasts, cardiotrainer, grocery lists, organizer and maps, and the occasional call.

I have a big screen and a SUV, neither of which I want to carry along while I run my 20 miles a week.. So for me, the EVO is too big. And no, it really doesnt fit in my jeans pockets, guess I should've never given up MOM jeans;)

I like my Hero, but I would like something faster. I'll wait til my year is up in November and see what's new and improved then.
[Hero CDMA General] tejasrichard:
1. It is in Hero CDMA General because enough people who own the Hero care about the evo and want to talk about it.

2. Not all of us have sprung for the evo. I haven't. I have other things I want to spend my money on right now (this is still my second hobby, after all), but it has nothing to do with not liking the phone. If I had more money, i would already have bought it. I, however, don't bash a product that I can't afford, simply because I can't afford it. I realize that you pointed out that you that you have ample funds to buy the evo, if you so chose. Good. I'm not calling you out or any of the other nonsense that people seem to find amusing over the interwebz. But even a brief study of human behavior would suggest that some (if not many) of the people posting hate for the evo over the last few months are do so for some reason other than the "screen is too large" mantra we've been hearing.
[Hero CDMA General] abcdfv:
So you're only allowed to talk about the Evo in the Evo section if you have an Evo? That's pretty gay.
[Hero CDMA General] DirtyShroomz:
I am going to go with reading comprehension> you.
[Hero CDMA General] abcdfv:
I'm talking about that.

Right there.

If you care about the Evo and want to talk about it, go to the Evo section. That's what it's there for. Talking about the Evo.
[Hero CDMA General] DirtyShroomz:
Thats definitely not what that implies.
[Hero CDMA General] abcdfv:
"People with Heroes want to talk about Evos"

That's what I got out of it.
[Hero CDMA General] DirtyShroomz:
Making sure we're on the same page. Internet sarcasm is not that easy to catch
[Hero CDMA General] abcdfv:
That is indeed what I got out of it. I'm running 36 hours straight, so sorry if I'm a little hard to understand.
[Hero CDMA General] tejasrichard:
Bro, I was responding to 2 different points. That is why they were delineated. I never suggested that one needed an evo to post in the evo section. But frankly, this particular thread is arguably about one person's decision to keep the hero, and why. I may disagree with him, but that still makes this the right section.
[Hero CDMA General] doojer:
If you talk about the EVO in the EVO section they go nuts. Seriously. I tried. :D
[Hero CDMA General] jerry43812:
I personally didn't think this belongs here but who the hell am I LOL.

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Sent from your mom!
[Hero CDMA General] regaw_leinad:
I have big, strong hands from playing the sax.... wonder if the EVO could handle them...
[Hero CDMA General] afma_afma:
I love big stuff.....:rolleyes:
[Hero CDMA General] tejasrichard:
Oh, Dan! You're not tooting your own horn, are you?!? :D
[Hero CDMA General] nutswillkillme:
I think the EVO is too big, but it will eventually gape out my pants and all will be well.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Hacker_sallu:
I had been looking for an app for my Vonage World Phone, which i can use thru my mobile while on the GO..

A Company called Aphelion Technologies develops such app for iPhone.

http://www.apheliontechnologies.com/mobile/ivongo.php

iPhone has the app for vonage thru which one can make calls, even it does call forwarding and then resets call forwarding once you are done with the call.

Seems really cool. I wish a similar app for my windows Phone

I am Currently using : T-Mobile HD2

Or,

Does anyone knows about similar app available with this feature????
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] tony1ant:
vOnGo

Try Voice on the Go there's no software to install here's the link

http://consumer.voiceonthego.com/VOGOPortal/
[EVO 4G General] Borg1982:
Lower volume than my previous (HTC Titan).

Pretty bad call quality, too. Not clear sounding at all.

Anyone else having this problem with the Evo? I live in southeast michigan.

Any smart way to increase quality and volume?
[EVO 4G General] sph33r:
I'm in southeast Michigan myself and I think the call clarity is great. Not as loud as my Hero but that phone had to be turned all the way down to be tolerable.
[EVO 4G General] crazy talk:
that's odd, i think it's better then my Nexus one and my IPhone 3GS before that.
[EVO 4G General] Aridon:
No issues at all. Getting very good quality and sound level.