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[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] M3PH:
I just installed this and it has improved the accuracy of typing on the keyboard especially at speed. I can touch type (badly) so with any qwerty keyboard i can do 100 ish words a minute. Before every other word had to be corrected but my test sentence "this is a test to see if the keyboard accuracy has been improved at speed" needed not one. Line drawing is still too accurate (that was the problem before. it is impossible for a human to draw a perfect straight line free hand) but it is better. I've also noticed in my typing test that the contact i used to test the htc messaging app load speed (contact has currently 2481 messages associated with it) was massively improved. I have no idea if this is related but this patch appears to have done something to it. I'll keep an eye on that just to see if the effect is because my phone just had it's first reboot in 8 days or not.

Done some quick further testing on the Messaging app load speed and it appears that either the way the message database is loaded has been changed (instead of loading them one by one it seems to loading them all in one big chunk) or the graphics driver has been updated (reading this i'm not sure if it's not the undefined option 3) but something is definitely different there because whether it's 2500 messages or 10 the load time is now the same and faster than before.

Something weird is defintely up with this hotfix and i bet it includes more than just a touch screen update too.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lemonspeakers:
Here are my final thoughts after installing the HotFIX

1) Install it only if you are having touch screen problems. If you don't know whether you have a touchscreen problem, do not install it. I repeat, do not install it unless you have a heavy finger.

This hotfix will make your screen less responsive because you have to tap the screen with more pressure. This sucked for me because i glide through everything smoothly with a soft touch, and when I have to press harder for response, everything just seems much slower.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] M3PH:
wow that's a realy big font. I had noticed that swipe and flicks took a bit more effort and didn't feel as fluid but you can always use hd2tweak or bsbtweaks to fiddle with the settings to find a nice compromise. it seems htc went too sensitive to start with and now have pulled it back a little too far but i think for most people this would be fine to install.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chris X.:
confirm this!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Olioaglio:
OK, before blindly installing this I wanted to know what the fix indeed does and unpacked it and examined the content.

HTC seems to be developing on this cause the package name is: Hotfix LEO08787_1.5

what indicates that there might have been some minor versions earlier :rolleyes:

So I discovered, that it indeed replaces a driver file ;)

Guess what? It's the "touch.dll" with a new version (20100319-00)

It places two strings in registry

HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\Hotfix

TouchDLL_version="20100319-00"

and

HKLM\Hardware\Setting\TouchPanel

SettingConfigured="0"

So thats it for now.

I attach the extracted file only for personal use.

I take no responsibility for unresponsive touch screens.

Be aware that you know what you are doing be using this.

Olioaglio
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aLlamaWithARifle:
I've tried uninstalling this since the screen is now too under responsive but upon uninstalling and restarting I still seem to have the hotfix installed although it's not shown in the remove programs but yet everything is just as unresponsive as with the hotfix installed.

Is there a way to actually uninstall it?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Olioaglio:
You can use SKTools to detect the replaced ROM files.

In the upcoming list there should be the new touch.dll with about 100kb

you can now mark the touch.dll and choose to recover the ROM file and then softreset.

should work.

Olioaglio
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ererte:
the .exe file don't work on cooked roms... it's possible to make a .cab file?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] M3PH:
Is this the same version as the new touch driver that was in the energy roms but was removed yesterday?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stoolzo:
vast improvemnt on mine..

oh - my - god - ...!!!! Vast inprovment on mine, not getting double taps and wrong key presses now, straight lines, bang on even when I am drawing them slowly on in notepad.

I love my phone again :)

NOTE - I am using stock voda ROM with no previous screen fixes by XDA installed.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eghbal:
Installed, works perfectly (typing, pinch2zoom in browser and gallery, drawing) :)

Also I set "Sensitivity, Finger pressure, Scrolling sensitivity" to "Normal" in "HD2Tweek".
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bakedbread:
i never had a problem drawing lines in notes (always were straight)

but i always DID have a problem with typing "fast" on the default HTC keyboard.

Many times i would get weird key presses, like pushing "m" would result in "i". This would only happen if i tried typing at a faster pace.

Ive been through all the threads about screen sensitivity (tried the reduced sensitivity cab, BSB tweaks, etc)

so i gave this hotfix a try.

I can say the notes are still drawing straight lines

I think they greatly reduced the sensitivity when typing, cause it seems u have to push a tad bit harder for keys to register, but for the most part, it seems as though this hotfix helped.

As per others were saying their device became sluggish/unresponsive, mine seems exactly the same as before, scrolling through homescreen menus and CHT is just as smooth.

Ive only been using the hotfix for about an hour, so ill see whawt a week or so will do.

Oh, and im using Swype a lot now and it seems to have no issues so far
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pedroxxx:
First impression

Well, I install it because like someone said, it is for those who has havy fingers :-)

And indeed it really helps with typing accuracy. previous XDA reg tweeks where a littlebit helpfull, but it makes no sence to play with them when driver already meassure wrong point of touch.

So I have played with SMS, beacuse of innacurate writing I have been avoiding to use it, and there is still 2 things which are annoyed.

1. When I turn phone to landscape, he remembers row and column from portrait view and therefore cursor is at wrong position, and is always necessary to move it at the end of the already written text.

2. screen is huge, but in landscape 50% of the screen is keyboard, 25% of the screen are various indicator like (WM Start, signal strenght, battery) wasted time at bottom just for three buttons.

If name of person who will receive this message will not be on the screen all the time, but only when you scrool at top of the SMS, will be more space to show actually what you are writing. Because 3 line is for phone with such a huge screen desperately not enough!

Does anybody know if these behaviours were already fixed in ROM higher than 1.66?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ZekeWolf:
I have had massive problems with straight lines and dubbeltaps.

After installing the fix, everything works fine.

I installed it on a cooked rom (Duttys).
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aegidios2:
I think I have an earlier version, because in the program management (remove programs) my patch is named : Hotfix LEO08787_1.0

By the way my device is now a new one with it , but if there is a new version i'll give it a go, do you have the link for the cab ? (mine 1.0 came from the link of pocket now...)

thanks
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hot_biscuit:
I red the last few posts, but I didn't find any answers to that question. So I'm asking myself:

Is the driver touch.dll included in this fix the same that the one in the 6th June ROM's ?

I wanted to give it a try, but it says "device not compatible" when I try to install the fix.

EDIT : Sorry I posted in the wrong thread. I was in the Energy ROM thread, I wanted to post there, but I started a search about this hotfix, then it tooks my here. And you know, playing with tabs in firefox at 3h isn't that easy...

(so the post I quote is from the Energy ROM thread)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spike15_mk:
This update is not for everyone!

I installed this update on my HD2, and after 5 minutes I uninstalled, because the screen was unresponsive, I have to press twice for example in composing new SMS. Clearly you should try this update only if you are experiencing problems with your screen.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkAvenger:
It seems should be installed after Hard Reset. I have lived same problems my heavy apps installed HD2 but I installed the patch after hard reset everthing works fine. Keyboard really good repsonsive and didn't make any mistake. or placebo effect :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] owmdensha:
About the touch.dll

Some of yours have explained that the fix consists in a dll file : touch.dll

How do you install it.

By copying, the device says that it's forbidden (i think that it comes from the fact of the file is being used by the device...

Any idea ?

Thank in advance friends from XDA !
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spike15_mk:
I can not do hard reset at the moment, I am lazy :D. I uninstalled so If I experience any problems I might do that :).
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] onslaught86:
Tried installing on my 2.10 stock TMOUS HD2 - it does seem to smooth things up and increase fluidity, especially in messaging, which pleased me. However, it required a lot more pressure on the touchscreen to input characters etc. Managed to mess with reg settings until I was happy with it. Saved a full backup in case I needed to revert, but so far it seems to be an improvement.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aegidios2:
Wow!!!

After a couple of day , I may say that this patch is THE patch !!

I've tryied lots of reg tweaks and softs before to decrease , increase touch response , pressure etc .... without success so to do a clean install I decided to hard reset my device .

Conclusions (On my leo...with shaking screen bug etc)

AFTER A HARD RESET !!

Rom 1.66 + Hotfix 08787 + Chainfire drivers D3D and Opengl 2.0 = A perfect device, no more bugs ...

:D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] starbase64:
Hi,

try the attached cab.

with friendly greet

starbase64
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkAvenger:
50% percent of Screen

I have mentioned before that i installed this patch a few days ago after a hard reset, everythings fine. but while I using Resco Explorer this morning I have lived touch problem bottom side of screen (50%) I need to press longer then top side of screen for opening folders. I'm now thinking this hotfix related only bottom side of screen especially keyboard area. anyone live like this problem?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Innovative:
Works great

I can confirm that the new fix works GREAT on my phone too. :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lemonspeakers:
Does anyone know how to change the sensitivity back after installing this hotfix? I like the typing improvement, but I hate the sensitivity.

Can anyone provide the default sensitivity while retaining the improved fix?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lemonspeakers:
rebump.hhgbnm
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fards:
it doesnt change the sensitivity, it just installs a new touch driver!

if you don't like it then change back the touch.dll in windows (delete or rename the new version and soft reset) the original should be back then

From what I've seen this is the driver that has appeared in the last few beta rom versions (including the 3.01 rom)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lemonspeakers:
maybe you are not understanding what I am saying.

I like how the hot fixes and reduces errors when typing on keyboard, however, it DOES change the fact that I now have to press harder for the screen to respond. Everyone here even noticed that side effect after installation.

now, i am asking is it possible to do a registry edit to revert the sensitivity back so I dont have to press the screen that hard while retaining the hot fix's improved typing.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hoss_n2:
i have known the reason of most hd2 screen problems (it is screen calibration issues ) so by hard reset the device returns to its original calibration info so bugs disappear , i tried different calibration methods some make the screen buggy and some make it smooth
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] M3PH:
Well i use this patch for 4 days. By the end of that period i couldn;t tell the difference between before and after patching except for i did have to hit the screen faster. Everything else i had noticed seems to have been a coincedence. I'm now running the latest Energy WM 6.5.5 rom and things are much better. I think htc should hurry up, pull there fingers out and release an official 6.5.5 rom for all versions. I would still suggest you install the patch if you just mildly irritated by the screen but if your are having major problems don't mess about and just install a 23569 build based rom (but not energy jun 6th coz it has this driver and it wasn't so great by all accounts. annoyed a lot of people)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aegidios2:
Well,

For me it work , since the first install, no shaking screen bug... like a new one, so depending of your device (maybe we not have the same bug or not in the same proportions...)

I've only made a hardres to restore the pressure sensitivity (i've decrease it by many way to reduce shaking effect... without real success)

And about the pressure bug in resco explorer , i've encounter it before any tweak or patch , so I presume that it came from the app....
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ToddeSwe:
Finaly we got ONE hotfix that realy made a difference :)

Hi!

I must say that after this hotfix i'm realy glad to send text messages!

I have no problem to write on my keybaords anymore :)

And it does not flicker and jumping all over like before. This is THE hotfix that rules them all :) because this one realy made a difference.

I'm SO glad that i finaly am able to write SMS on my expensive HTC! :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GeitjeG:
For me also not better screen response, even much heavier and less sensitivity. I have to say had had not major problems before installing, just wanted to try :p... I tried to make the screen more sensitive with HD2 tweak, but that did not work. I'm reverting to old...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erosennin:
Great improvement when typing.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] le_paulo:
Doesn't work for me...

In the last few weeks, I've been having the jittery screen, especially in the tab bar at the bottom. Was using Artemis and Dutty ROMs without problem then it just started happening one day and didn't stop.

Reverted back to 1.66 Stock 2 weeks ago and stopped using the HD2 altogether (had to go back to my old Touch Cruise Mark I after someone threatened to buy me an iPhone :eek:).

For a laugh, I tried this hotfix and although it worked a little bit, the tab bar and screen is still very jittery and jumps about everywhere. Keyboard is a little bit better but at loss of response speed.

I've already logged a fault on my phone so I guess it's going back to replace the entire screen and digitiser. Given the reported screen and digitiser shortages, I guess I could be waiting a while...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aegidios2:
I am very sorry for you, I donn't understand why in case it work and in other case it doesn't .....

In my opinion thats why HTC didn't released it officialy and install it only in repear centers....

The jittering screen bug may have multiple cause ?

But , have you tried the two patch ?

The Exe one from pocket now wich is contain 08787 V. 1.0

And the cab posted by starbase64 wich is 08787 V. 1.5

(maybe they cure the same symptom by different way :) )
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ToddeSwe:
I had to remove the 1.0 from pocket now, is the cab uninstallable as well?

Maybe i should try that one instead, because i spoke to soon, the screen was hard to use and i had to press twice most of the time and a bit to hard for my liking.

Have you tried the 1.5?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aegidios2:
Hi,

Yes the cab is uninstallable, I've tried V1.5 maybe need a little less pressure than V1.0 you may try...

Also think about install 1.0 and adjust sensitivity with utils like hdtweaks ?

Good luck
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lemonspeakers:
when you uninstall it the hotfix will be removed from programs but the side effects (must press hard to register) remains there.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ToddeSwe:
Yes i've noticed that! :(
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xavierdemon:
Just use the Align screen utility and decrease the pressure while performing the Alignment, this will increase the sensitivity. It's an old Diamond trick :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bayowar:
I received my repaired HD2 yesterday. Had all the usual touchscreen issues described in all the threads on this forum. Support replaced the screen and hardware buttons (because the stickers where coming off) within a week and under warranty (Arvato in Germany).

There is no hotfix installed on the phone, but it works perfectly now, even with a custom Rom.

My guess is the hardware ia faulty on some phones and the hotfix only treats the symptoms. I haven't read the whole thread, don't know if this is news to anyone :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ericjennings:
I'm on stock rom 1.66.405.2 WWE and have applied the various tweaks in the thread "boost performance tips"

I have installed the patch and didn't like it - it made the UI jerky and screen unresponsive, especially softkeys.

So I've uninstalled it but that's made no difference, my phone is now virtually unusable.

I've tried changing sensitivity in HD2tweak to very high, and finger pressure to default but that doesn't help either.

Its as if the uninstall appears to work but leaves the new dll in place.

Can anyone suggest anything else before I try a hard reset?

Thanks
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bronx:
install sktools, go to option "replaced rom files", now the tricky part - demo version shows only 6 items (unless You've got a full one :rolleyes:) so You need to go to options and set "search for" to touch.dll only.

now, restore rom file and restart. :cool:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mgdev:
Hotfix 08787

I have one of the early HD2s, it has jitter problems, most of them can be cured with the various touch fixes around BUT they have never completely gone.

I installed the Energy Cookie ROM from the 6-June & most of the jitters disappeared, looking at the REG settings (HKLM\HARDWARE\Setting\TouchPanel) I noticed that there are now jitter keys.

This new touch.dll seems to have caused problems with later HD2s & has been removed from later ROMS but installing the touch cab found in earlier posts the jitter keys are back & my HD2 is almost perfect.

I've been using it for a while now & found the when the keyboard is up the jitters can come back but overall it's a great patch for my HD2.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ericjennings:
Thanks mgdev and bronx.

I tried the cab file and it didn't help, but I downloaded a trial version of SKTools and that did the job - definitely will buy full version of this

Thanks again

Eric
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erosennin:
Removed after a week. Couldn't stand it, screen too unresponsive even though typing was improved.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bronx:
no prob Eric ;)

erosennin - tell me about it... typing improved, multitouch improved (much better control in fpsece)... but overall lagginess was killing me.... :(

oh well... I never had bigger problems with my screen, but improvement is always welcome. :D tried, uninstaled, happy again. ;) You know what they say - if ain't broken, don't fix it. :cool:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Niels-je:
I just installed the update/fix LEO08787.exe and it works just fine on my HD2.

No more jumpy irregular lines when I'm using SlideIT to write my sms! :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kaemon:
Glad this topic could help some people here.

As somebody else said here, i believe the patch fix a symptom and not the real cause (which is hardware).

Treating a symptom is still better than suffering from it all the time though.

Before this patch i would give the touch function of my hd2 a lame 5/10.

With this hotfix, i would give it a 8,5 / 10. It is not perfect, but surely working better (let's hope it'll stay like this the next few weeks).

The version i had installed back from the repair was version 1.0

If someone knows where to find version 1.5 , i'm willing to test it.

Thanks for all your replies and feedbacks.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bRkiX:
version 1.5 is cabbed, you can find this cab i think on page 3 or 4 of this thread
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zzyzx80:
WARNING: Do not fix it when it is not broken!

I had tried both the .exe and the .cab and eventually had to hard reset my phone to the original touch sensitivity.

go with this fix only if you have heavy finger as also cautioned by others.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JamesRC:
thanks for the removal instructions, reduced sensitivity was horrendous!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kaemon:
Hi,

I sent it back for the second time now.

It was there for more than 2 weeks, they said they had to wait for some parts to change.

It should be back to me within 2 days.

I called them to know what part did they change ?

They told me they changed the "motherboard and the FPC" :s

I'd have expected them to change the screen !! Im afraid they didn't change the rights parts :(

I'll see with my own eyes within the next 2 days i guess... but all this is getting annnoying : 2 weeks for the first time, and now 3 weeks = 5 weeks total without my htc.... it d better be fixed by now...

Anyone understand what FPC is and does changing that and the motherboard would help in the SCREEN problem ????

(does changing the motherboard also change the IMEI ???).

Thanks for any reply guys.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kaemon:
Got back my phone , after the second sending for repair : they changed the motherboard... thus i have another IMEI now...

But the screen... is the EXACT same one, with SAME problem !!!

What do i have to do to make them understand they need to put a NEW generation screen!!

I'm really tired of this screen issue...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alexpatrick86:
same issue here my firend. they currently have my phone for the 3rd time. first time they replaced motehrboard and second they flashed the ROM.

they are unwilling to admit the screen has changed adn they say there are no other screen parts. i ahve demanded they do it. they are really bad there though.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kaemon:
I'm must say i'm "glad" to see i'm not the only one unable to get a functionning screen despite sending it to repair...

it's sad too...

What country are you from ? (i'm in France...with French after sale service...).

Keep me update with any news on your side ok ?