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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] gjcamp:
Great questions!! I do not believe clear objectives were put forth to the developer.

Although I do not speak for everyone I do think this is a fair and reasonable expectation to have some generally agreed upon guidelines to the developer for release of the funds.

Below are my recommendations.

Some important question to all offering a bounty:

What is the lowest overclocking speed you will accept: 530, 550, 600, 700 Mhz ??

I think that any overclocking utility should be verifiable through benchmarking and stable by at least approximately a minimum of 20% overclock. (623 mhz)

I came up with this number as it is the highest overclocking achieved on my G1 that was stable throughout. I mean that it did not reset my G1 or cause inadvertant forced closes. In closing on this I understand that these are different OS's and hardware MSM 7200a (TP2) vs MSM 7201a (G1). It seems that the Android Group has given us the ability to see what our hardware is capable of in the Mytouch 3G Overclocking Kernal by providing proof of concept in stability and capabilities. The MyTouch is the same processor.

What do you think the software should be (for others): open source, freeware, donation ware, payware?

Considering the spirit of XDA it seems that Donation Ware would at least continue to fund future development of this utility to support:

A nice interface for settings

Restart on boot

Future improvements to top speed through testing

Automatic Scalable overclocking to improve battery life.

I would think that the original request for overclocking is reasonable and future donations would make it worth your time to support improvements.

It is your choice to open source or not, but if you are going to stop development or stop supporting improvements I think that open source would be the way to keep this good thing going.

I am donating to the developer of this app to get the ball rolling with a successful initial release of an overclocking application. I understand that initially there may be some bugs and time required to work out kinks. I hope any developer would that gets the donations would be committed to some continued support before moving on to their next project.

I would hate to donate for an underdeveloped app even it it does work only to have a developer stop working on improvements leaving us with nothing to build on.

We would then have to start this process all over again to get something that is easy to use, more stable and customizable by the end user.

I am glad to donate in order to support the launch of this project.

Good luck to you!

Cheers
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] BASSMANBOB:
This sounds great! If other agree I will put this at the beginning of the thread!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] buru898:
Hell yeah the 20% increase would make a huge difference! Even the Wing going from 200 to 299 made it fly (lol pun).

That'd be awesome and maybe there'd be future improvements for dynamic clocking and a higher frequency :p. Even just the 20% increase would be fine and I might even end up considering putting Sense 2.5 lol.

Good to see someone taking up the challenge (and bounty) :).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] msh441:
I don't have any issues creating and editing my own icons. I just have the opinion that a program, app, or tool should come with the requsite icons included in order to be deemed "complete".

That said, I know this is a work in progress and that iwfratz has put a respectible amount of time and effort into it's construction. I was simply pointing out what I would add in any future revisions.

I guess I wasn't making myself clear (again). I'm well aware as to how to start & stop the tool and set changes within the tool's GUI. No problems there.

What I was trying to suggest was the option to save multiple profile parameters. So if I have a group of settings that I want to save for battery longevity I could save it as Profile #1. If I had a group of settings I liked for increased speed I could save them as "Profile #2". If I had a group of settings that was a balance between the two, I could save them as "Profile #3", etc. That way a user can continue to play with the settings within the GUI and not worry about remembering a series of settings that they once liked and thought ran well. Same idea as a "restore default settings" button: Allows the user to play with the settings a bit, while retaining the ability to roll back to default settings (or a saved profile) if they get somthing out of whack.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] 5318008:
I think there's some kind of technical limitations keeping most third-party, non-Marketplace apps from bundling and *using* their own icons. I only did cursory research but apparently a .CAB must be signed (or use something called 'dynamic setup') to use custom icons, as the registry path is in a protected registry location. If an unsigned app tries to put in custom icons, the install will fail, unless something like SDKCerts in present already to bypass signed-app checks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] msh441:
Really!?! I had no idea. Definately sounds like somthing Microsoft would do.

I only have 2 or 3 marketplace apps, yet this is the first that hasn't come with icons. Granted, I do have SDKCerts installed, as you mentioned.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Dnajun_Tnuieh:
S2P isn't free, also apparently has a lot of bugs/glitches according to reviews.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] 5318008:
Sorry, you're right, it's no longer freeware, though the free version is still available on the webs. I've used v0.80 for ages, and the only deficiency I've noticed is lack of landscape support (supported in pay version.) It integrates really well with S2U2 and allows playback control via lockscreen and auto-launch with BT headphones.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] 4bettilt2:
First SOD using dynamic clocking happened while hanging up on a call

going back to being undynamic and living at 691
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] xicloe:
just want to share my experience in different speed, different configuration:

with the autodinamicly on

at 768 : 1-3 hours and it's freeze

at 748 : some times freeze when typing or run opera

at 729 : no freeze but got SOD nightmare

with the autodinamicly off ( all variable except the speed is "0") :

at 768 : sometimes it's restart it's self T_T

at 748 : it's still got freeze at typing (but a little bit rare thing)

at 729 : it's no SOD, no freeze, it's 2 days run until I wrote this.

Maybe just a little tweak and analize the autodinamicly is will work properly :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] MikeAffec:
Same here 768 is little to fast.

cpu:748.4 // step 1 // load 30,15 // jump 20,3 // 1000 inter

Running for a whole day now. And nope I don't mind about my battery life.

But...: yes the phone is little faster, enough to say that the rhodium is not annoying slow anymore.

So thank you :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Alcibiade:
No, tweaking the dunamic tool will not improve your max overclock. In the best case it may clock sightly higher/lower... but just push your processor to the max (With a game, a benchmark or soem application maxing out teh CPU) and you will see that whatever you do you have a limit that you cnat really overcome (In your case it maybe 729 but if I had to take a bet it could be one notch lower)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] majorassface:
I've been using iwfratz's tool since it came out, havent had much trouble with it . Since moving to 1.5 I haven't had any freezing but I've had random sense restarts. I just moved back to 1.4.1 after a couple days with 1.5 and I am now stable again. With 1.5 it didn't seem to matter if I used dynamic settings or not, tried various cpu settings, poll int and step values and couldn't find a stable config.

Running MightyOfficial, S2u2, no cookie on a Telus CDMA TP2. 1.4.1 works great!

Great tool, keep up the amazing work!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] p51d007:
I'm up to 748, with zero impact on batt life, no SOD's or freezes.

All options on the 1.5 OCT tool are zero. The rom I use DOES NOT have

sense loaded. Maybe some interaction with sense and the oct tool is messing

it up.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] sleze:
I tried both but have settled on iwfratz's OCT Tool. The only reason I stuck with NetRipper's for so long was that I could get higher clock speeds. However, about 1 in 5 calls resulted in SoD.

Now that OCT Tool has no overclocking cap, that is my tool of choice.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Rickgig:
Okay... I am just seeing this thread for the first time and I am impressed.

If I understand this right just download the OCT cab load and go with the default settings and bam, over clocked. Speed is good.

Question, what is Sod? Possibly screen of death? Doubt that since there are posts stating the get the SoD while bring up the phone but then it goes away.

Enlighten me please!

Awesome work regardless.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] wmg316:
See my post here for my results...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Rickgig:
Nice... the results speak. But what is SoD?

I am running a stock ROM on my AT&T Tilt2 which was a replacement for my Fuze (3rd one that broke). Had it for about 60 days now and I really like it. Before the Fuze I had a Tilt and didn't realize how much I liked that phone until it was gone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] wmg316:
SOD = Screen of Death...or for me...black screen. Only requires a soft reset to recover.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Yusuke14:
I thought SoD == Sleep of Death, hence the black screen, cause the device is in 'sleep' mode
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] srsaleenstang:
SOD = sleep of death

SOD = screen of death

SOD = standby of death

they are the same thing just people can se it differently.

it basically means that the phone becomes useless you cant do anything with it. if your lucky it will come back. but most likely you will have to do a reset.

well Im running REE latest rom and im up to 787.2 mhz for 3 days so far with no SOD im using iwfratz's oct. I was using NetRipper's one but would get SOD from time to time.

Good job on both but iwfratz is a lil more stable.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] xicloe:
Is there any safe mode in WM 6.xx ??

my gosh, I do overclocked to high and I already put the shortcut OCT run in start up folder, and it cause hang every boot.

Is there any suggestion ? I know flasing the ROM is always can fix the problem, but with all tweaks and installed application, it's make me frustated.

I just need to get in the internal memory without execute the OCT, delete the file temporary and then setting default.

Can anybody help ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] daan4suz:
I think you have a problem there. Not sure but know that one of SPB software had safe mode that automatically kicked in after 2x quick soft reset. But if you don"t have it installed already, no way to get it on your phone now.

Think your only option is a Hard Reset.

One tip, install OCT on the memory card. This way if you encounter this problem, just remove the card and start up no problem, put in the card again and change the settings to a more safe value. :) (Also setting up XDA_UC helps a lot ! reducing time to set up Ur phone after HR)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] xicloe:
Thanks for replaying, :)

I am hopeless with safe mode, now I am trying to access the device memory w/o booting WM, I just get in to the boot loader mode (by press and hold vol down and then power button). But still stuck in the boot loader mode, try to access device memory, even in text mode if I could, arghhhh..... :)

I give up, so ---> task29, flashing ROM, and now tweaking from the start T_T
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Alcibiade:
There must be a way to boot without launching the apps in the Startup folder. I cant believe there is none. Check with Google
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] majorassface:
OK, so I moved back to 1.4.1 as I was getting a lot of random Sense restarts, but after uninstalling 1.5 with SKtools I was still getting the random Sense restarts. HR and installed 1.4.1, After a while I was still getting the Sense restarts, ended up doing a HR and and back to stable. I also found that even with the app installed but not active I was getting the Sense restarts. Sadly I've had to give up for now as I need a reliable phone for work for the rest of the week. Looking forward to the next release!!!

Major
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] 5318008:
My favorite way:

With both OCT and MSM7K, I install to main memory, then put a shortcut on my SD card, then put a shortcut to that shortcut in Startup. That way I can install to main memory for speed and convenience, and I can still 'break the chain' to prevent load-at-boot by removing the card.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] IMissPalmOS:
I've never tried this with my TP2, but with other phones I have been able to pull out the SIM card and reboot, which would cause it to pause at the "No SIM" message. From there, I'd use ActiveSync to rename or delete the offending file.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] aamadorj:
This is very creative. Excelent!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] mr.horndoctor:
Many Thanks to iwfratz for his OCT Tool !!! :D

I am using the 1.5 version to OC my CDMA Sprint TP2 to a max speed of 768mhz , 2 steps, load 3|15-30|50 at 2000ms intervals. Works Great!!

No SOD and Stable.

I idle at 256mhz which conserves power then small tasks make it jump to 384mhz and then 768 for Full Throttle!

Thank You So Much for your work!!

Great Job!! ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Alcibiade:
Waoh ! Well done ! Smart way
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] RoboWang:
I am using the OCT 1.5 and it has worked consistantly for over a week. I flash a lot of new ROMs (3rd one this week this morning) so I have to keep re-installing my Buuf theme.

As been noted above, the OCT app has no icons.

So, I made my own Buuf theme ones.

If anyone else is running Buuf, you can go here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=7882084#post7882084

to get them.

I will update them, soon, IF the OCT continues to work for me in a week or so. These are only temps.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] SupraFast:
I seem to only experience hangs when the dynamic settings are on or clock is too high.

Sprint TP2 Sense 2.5 Rom with SPB Mobile Shell

748.8mhz at 0 interval and seems to be running good.

As soon as I turn on dynamic clocking...whether my clock speed is approximately stock, lower, or higher...It will hang upon wake up or going to sleep typically. When playing around with the dynamic settings, I can post pone this hang, but it's inevitable.

I'm wondering if at certain times, the phone just needs the proper cpu frequency in order to function...like when waking up maybe it needs to be at stock frequency...i don't know.

I experimented with a bunch of ranges of values for the dynamic settings using users suggestions and my own thoughts. Nothing seems to fix the problem.

I really only want two settings...so I was experimenting with this. Max Clock when I'm using the phone and Min Clock when I'm not using the phone. With a step 5 to 10, I tried setting the max load to 100 and min load to 0...then min jump and max jump i was experimenting with to try and find a medium. Just seems to hang mainly when it tries to wake up or sleep.

As of now I'm just going to continue running the 748.8mhz on a 0 interval until your next release comes out.

For those who say that the battery life doesn't appear much better with the lower clock values are crazy. Being at work for 6 to 7 hours my phone would go from 100 to 50 to 60% just from normal use and idle time. With the lower clock time, I was able to see 70 to 80%+...until the hangs occur.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] mech_supernova:
found a problem, running GPS apps such as tomtom or google maps iwfratz overclocking tool locks up pretty solid after only a cople min, im thinking the heat off the GPS + the extra heat from the OC causes a termal lockdown
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Doo Doo:
no matter what settings i use & yes i tried all kinds of settings i always get black screen of death after phone calls i don't understand why would anybody care to explain this
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] IMissPalmOS:
I can't explain it. I have the opposite problem. I have 3 phones running various ROM's and I have not *ever* had a screen of death, no matter how hard I try. Of course if I crank my MHz up way beyond reason I can make any of the phones lock up, but none have ever had the SOD that seem to happen to some of you.

Someone should start collecting all relevant data about the phones that do and do not have this problem and look for a pattern. I would volunteer but am quite busy at work.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] SpinalRemains:
I have been using the OCT 1.5 for over 2 weeks and haven't had a problem with Bing, Google maps, Waze or Navi computer. I wonder if it's a ROM issue or just device specific? I'm using stock ROM on Sprint TP2
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] wmg316:
Never had a problem here (ROM and OCT settings in my signature). I use Google GPS and Bing GPS DAILY...never had a freeze or SOD. I DO NOT dynamically clock; all settings to 0.

I have to ask...have you tried no dynamic clocking (all settings to 0)? I have been running at 729.6 and all 0's for 15 days now and I have not had a freeze or SOD yet!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Doo Doo:
i was running OCT the same as you 729mhz everything else set to 0 even interval set to 0 & i was getting BSOD (Black Screen Of Death) after phone calls which lead to having to soft reset my phone maybe this has something to do with the sensor the 1 when you put the phone up to your face and screen goes black & when you take it away from your face it comes back on but who knows i sure don't

maybe if someone can figure out a way for OCT to throttle down to a safe speed only during phone calls & then maybe we might have something to work with then just my opinion
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] robseargeant:
There are a minority of us that no matter what we do, we encounter BSOD problems with 1.5.

Even if we revert to 1.4.1 after 1.5 the problems follow as it leaves something in the drivers. Once we flash a new ROM and go back to 1.4.1 all is well.

We are a minority so most call us crazy. It is truth though. I have tried it on 4 different ROMs (Task 29 and all, one a full stock revert to make myself feel better), results are the same. Something in 1.5 does not agree with some of our processors. It is not speed either. I ran testing on 1.5 at the 1.4.1's 648 speed cap with same steps. Same result, BSOD. With no involvement of calls I can even run my processor at 806, until it BSOD's randomly on about 50% of calls.

The only way we will probably get around this is if it is identified-which seems unlikely since we are a vast minority. Or if there is a 1.4.1 released with a higher speed cap.

I have looked at this thread everyday hoping to see something enlightening but I sort of gave up.

In the end I am still happy with the flawless execution of 1.4.1 though, so I can't really complain. I also feel 1.4.1 alone is flawless and worthy of the bounty by itself.

It just gets frustrating when every time someone brings it up the majority goes 'Huh it's fine.' There is a quantifiable issue.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] derride8:
I agree 100%.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] oruam57:
I have the definite impression that you are right. On the other hand, an overclocked phone is by definition more prone to random SOD or freeze and so it is almost impossible to obtain certainty.

Maybe it would be useful to use a tool as SKTracker (http://s-k-tools.com/index.html?sktracker/m_feat.html) to compare the complete phone status (registry, databases, files) before and after 1.5 installation and look for suspicious changes.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] IMissPalmOS:
Being the "vast minority" should make it easier to identify, not harder. Get everyone who is having the problem (and is willing to do a hard reset to avoid latent software issues) post exactly what phone, ROM, and SIM they are using. If there is a pattern it will emerge quickly.

I have T-Mobile branded TP2's, with AT&T SIM's, running RUU_Rhodium_S_HTC_Europe_1.86.401.0_Radio_Rhodium_4.49.25.17_Signed_Ship ROM. I can't cause a SOD on any of them to save my life.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] p51d007:
Same here, but at 768. Everything zero, no issues.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Doo Doo:
i don't know how you don't have no issues i have the same phone as you & my set up was 729mhz & everything else set to 0 even interval was set to 0 & about 5 out of 10 calls i would get BSOD (Black Screen Of Death) which lead to having to soft reset my phone

but on the other hand when i use netripper's app + script this never happens to me so you tell me what the problem can be :confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] 5318008:
I have the 1.5 SoD issues, even reverting to 1.41. I will hard reset only as a very last resort as it takes days to get everything set up on my phone.

I have a T-Mobile TP2 with T-Mobile SIM and HTC's unbranded ROM as per my signature. I run S2U2, Lookout Antivirus, and nightly SKTools RAM and storage cleanups. I also have file cache, BT and GPS settings tweaks. I always have WiFi on and BT off. I have a few other tweaks like BGalltabs. I don't have any email or SMS going.

With dynamic on or off, I get random freezes, black screens, SoDs, and Spinning Wheels of Doom at random times and at startups sometimes.

I can normally run 1.41 or MSM7K at 768 stable, but after 1.5, OCT always gives me the above issues no matter what my settings, S2U2 on or off, Sense on or off.

Hope this info helps.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] p51d007:
Beats me...the rom I have installed says

OS: 5.2.23568 (23568.5.5.0)

Manila version: NONE

Rom Version: RRE 23554 WWE

ROM Date: 02/04/10

Radio: 4.49.25.94

Protocol Version: 61.44ftc.25.38U

The rom I use does not have sense, because I don't use it, I use the

Titanium interface. Maybe that is the difference??
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] IMissPalmOS:
I was JUST thinking about that... Try turning off sense to see if that is the culprit.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] smithisize:
In-call SoD with OCT by iwfratz...

Solutions?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] na_tra:
How do you "disable the dynamic clocking" in the Tmobile TP2?

TIA
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Doo Doo:
you disable the dynamic clocking within the overclock tool all you have to do is just set your speed to whatever is stable for you and set all other settings to 0's including interval setting this stops the app from dynamic clocking & just runs at the constant speed you choose
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] na_tra:
thanks for your quick response.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] SupraFast:
It's not necessary to change all of your settings to 0. The only thing you need to do is set the interval to 0.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] na_tra:
never mind. found it.

TIA
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] nayr1482:
for those of you having issues with SOD when playing music with the screen off (using Dynamic OC) read this: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=132625
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] mmalka:
I wonder if the explanation on the link "Nitrogen requires more CPU power than the CPU is set to when the screen is off (Screen off w/ 5 steps is 125mhz, from what I can see Nitrogen can spike upwards of 350mhz)" would apply to the situation several people experienced (including me), which is the phone freezing after a call. Could at the end of the call some process be starting along with the screen turning on again, that demand more CPU than it is set at that moment?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] smithisize:
Setting interval to 0 solved the SoD after call problem.

However, does it increase battery drain?

Regards

Smith