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[Nexus One General] prscott1:
rolled out in Houston Texas

Hey - starting last week, I noticed flaky things with T-mobile in Houston area similar to what OP stated. But over the weekend, I realized they were rolling out hsdpa+ and then the next day - full blown hspa. I'm so happy. :D

Before today, the ul speeds were .5 - .6. Today, I'm getting between 1.5 and 1.8 ul speeds!
[Nexus One General] blisk:
More than anything its the wireless spectrum they use and the fact that you're in a large buildling. Depending on the frequency your provider uses you'll have better luck than some indoors.. generally its all the same. Of course the number of towers is important too. But for example LTE on 700mhz will give verizon LTE speeds 8-10 miles from the tower, 2500mhz on wimax will give sprint 2-3 miles from the tower. Higher frequency means more bandwidth available however.

I'm in engineering at UCF and pretty good reception in HEC and engineering 1 as long as you're not in the inner part of the building and those hallways and labs you're good. Brick walls = signal drop with anything but the lower frequencies and a well covered area. It's pretty strong coverage over here though on this side of campus.

They do have paint and stuff that have metal in it I think because its illegal to have a device that emits a radio signal to jam cellphones, however blocking it with shielding isn't. I'm pretty certain its expensive though. This was years ago that I saw that link on it... don't know if it still exists.
[Nexus One General] saint327:
How big of a swath is it being rolled out to do you think? I am in Deltona and nothing has changed as of yet. I assume your talking about the Orlando metro area...

I am using the FRF50 radio by the way.
[Nexus One General] y2whisper:
yeah you will get a increase in speeds due to the extra bandwith, but don't expect to get past the 7.2 mark, hell don't even expect to hit the 7.2 mark due to all the other factors.

not many devices out there to take full advantage of the added speed. new blackberry bold does........not sure what else, even the *cough* iphone 4 doesn't
[Nexus One General] blisk:
I was up in deland when I noticed the problems 2 nights ago with the 2g and not going to 3g in an area that I knew had 3g. This was actually during the day. I just tested it again within the last day before leaving and it was working again. Give it a week or two and I'm sure you'll see it. It seems the whole area is being upgraded including you. I'm on the older radio... update-1 radio.

Also please report problems to tmobile as you see them. I'm going to report my ****ty upload speeds. Looking online it seems other areas have better upload than I do. I mean 200kbps max 400 and choppy is just terrible.
[Nexus One General] blisk:
ATT is only going to 7.1 HSDPA... at least offically announced as of a month ago.. I guess that could change.. They're doing LTE after that.
[Nexus One General] evilkorn:
Re 3g in O-Town.

I have had full 3g bars when I visit my younger brother around Alfaya and UCF.
[Nexus One General] heygrl:
As far as off-topicness goes I do think XDA is large enough to need carrier forums..

But yes, 3G/2G switching where it previously wasn't, weak 3G, no 3G, 3G not working, are all signs that 3G is being worked on for HSPA+ which includes going from T1's to fiber backhaul

My sig shows what I get with my slow G1. This is in a high traffic area, where before it was .10Mbps during the same time, yes.. that slow and congested.

Also if you're not getting HSUPA you need to make sure your Nexus One has it enabled. Stock roms do have HSUPA enabled, some custom ones don't.
[Nexus One General] saint327:
Cool. I was discouraged back in January when they supposedly flipped the switch to HSDPA. As it turned out the backhaul wasn't here to support it. The max down I can remember is right at 1Mbps. Most of the time its around 900Kbps. Uploads usually come in around 350Kbps, with 500 being the highest I've seen. I live in Deltona, but work in Lake Mary and the speeds have been similar in both locations.

I hope that with this rollout everything will be in place.
[Nexus One General] heygrl:
HSDPA was already active on the network. The most they did was enable HSUPA.
[Nexus One General] mariolopezjr:
You can be right about that, but I think it's mostly older buildings to blame and not the fact that they did it on purpose to block cell phone usage. Classroom Building 1 has horrible reception and around it too. At my job (in Millican Hall) the reception is horrible at my coworkers office (but it could be because the office is near a lot of beams). So structure is sometimes the cause.

I also get almost no reception in my cousin's house. She lives a little bit past Pegasus Pointe.
[Nexus One General] khaytsus:
I think you mean HSPA. :) HSDPA wouldn't help your Uplink.
[Nexus One General] blisk:
I use to get approximately the same speed at my apartment.. with a place I work on campus getting 1.8mbps down and .3-.5 mbps up and that was the best speed I've gotten around here. Its alot better now.. i'm sure they're still tweaking it.. I hope they are with the upload speeds.. its choppy and inconsitant.. sometimes just stops. Download did that a couple times too but that's probably related to the terrible upload (downloading needs upload to request the next bits of data to be sent.. it sends "acks" to acknowledge that the packet of data was sent properly). It's just really bad sometimes around UCF where it refuses to send a text, make a phone call, or go online as it just has that stuck up arrow thing. Really annoying.

I called tmobile to complain about the upload speeds and I guess they didn't want to fill a report out. Also HSDPA+ is only in Philly and there is no way I could get it in this area they claim.. gave me a hard time about things. So I asked what the max speeds I should be getting and I said well I'm getting much faster than that.. why is that? I think its cause I called twice recently and they already filled out one for each occasion. I had to really be forceful about them filling one out for me.. with the original person one not filling it out and then transferring me to pda support and then he didn't want to either. Both said they couldn't select nexus one as a phone when reporting a service issue and the second guy just decided to bull**** me off the phone the whole time after finally admitting that. I said bull cause I just had two filled out previously... they just kept discounting what I was saying.
[Nexus One General] sheek360:
i live in miami florida and service here has to be the worse. I complain to tmobile a lot, atleast twice a week. yesterday i was told that the towers in miami would be upgraded to hsdpa+ with in 120 days...

we'll see about that, i get a vibe that the customer service rep just wanted me to stfu and release the line. is there a way i can find out when my neck of the woods will be updated? thanks
[Nexus One General] xManMythLegend:
Its available in NYC ,,,, i can tell you Ive never seen it. Highest speeds have been in the mid 2s.
[Nexus One General] attn1:
So you can talk to the cell tower @21mbps? Where are you going at that speed after that? If you have backhaul support for 4 - 5mbps and your target website can handle that speed as well as all the routes between you and it, it'll be a rare occasion for a while yet.

Exactly.
[Nexus One General] heygrl:
T-Mobile's new HSPA+ network isn't running on a couple of strung together T1's like AT&T's 3G network. They're running fiber then Ethernet to the cell sites. If and when AT&T decides to actually start 14.4Mbps HSPA network upgrades they will also have to go with fiber.
[Nexus One General] attn1:
They have been adding fiber for quite some time.
[Nexus One General] heygrl:
It's watered down into T1's.
[Nexus One General] saint327:
Ok, my 3G is gone at this moment. I usually have it here, but right now I have full signal under Edge. :rolleyes:
[Nexus One General] cmarti:
I'm located on East Orlando by Alafaya trl and right now since the afternoon there is no 3G all I get is edge; I was worried it was an issue with my phone.

Glad to hear they are upgrading. :-)
[Nexus One General] thisguy10:
hmm i wonder if las vegas/north las vegas is going to get the upgrade soon.
[Nexus One General] heygrl:
It's already occurring, almost complete in many of places.
[Nexus One General] cmarti:
Woke up this morning and I am getting 4.4mb download and 350kbps upload, seems they did something last night with the network.
[Nexus One General] techlogik:
There was a big data outage in Tampa yesterday. I was able to force my N1 onto the Edge network and it was just dirt slow. Just enough to get email synced with Exchange.

I use WiFi when in the office anyway here, so hooked up to that, but when I went outside, I was lucky to get mail synced.

Funny thing is, about 15 people have iPhones, and I couldn't get them to force an Edge connection at all. They had zero data all day....haha.

Not sure what was going on, but maybe they are working on network upgrades and it caused the outages..most downtime is user caused anyway.
[Nexus One General] Orangeandblue302:
We have HSPA in delaware but im only getting 966 DL and 775 Upload. A few miles up the road in Philly though its stupid, crazy, freak nasty fast.

wait i just checked my speed test.net settings and it was set to Kbps
[Nexus One General] sheek360:
just reporting in;

miami fl still cant get better then 300-500kb a second.
[Nexus One General] Blueman101:
I've got the following speeds here in Las Vegas (see sig)
[Nexus One General] jongie123:
CONFIRMED in Orlando,before getting max 800 kb/s ,now I'm getting 5000 kb/s download.Wow almost faster than my wifi.SE Orlando by OIA.
[Nexus One General] jongie123:
Interestingly I'm getting half the speed (2.5 Mb/s) in my wife's MT3G.Go She got better bars,but I get twice the speeds,lol.
[Nexus One General] saint327:
Even though my 3G went out last night, it has since come back today and still giving me my typical speeds. Hoping that the switch works it way up lol

I just started to think that maybe this is a large scale rollout designed to coincide with tmo's big June 19th promo.
[Nexus One General] thisguy10:
i need to do a test and see what im getting. my signal still bounces from 3G and EDGE in north las vegas though..:(
[Nexus One General] Blueman101:
same here im in north LV too
[Nexus One General] heygrl:
Las Vegas isn't blanked in 3G so that's most of the reason for the switching. They should be completing 3G coverage this year.
[Nexus One General] Blueman101:
im not to worried about it since i got a brand new super strong wifi rounter for 15$ at a garage sale last week
[Nexus One General] thisguy10:
cool, i hope its much better later in the year, i still like my phone though. at home i use wifi but it sucks sometimes when i go places and lose 3G for EDGE.
[Nexus One General] heygrl:
Yeah generally speaking, if your EDGE is much stronger than your 3G signal, chances are your closest tower is 2G only, or that it needs more 3G antennas. Some towers only have 2 vs 4-6 for 2G. It is getting faster though which is a much needed improvement. When the Nexus One and HD2 dropped 3G felt slower than 2G in some places
[Nexus One General] mtw4991:
Confirmed +1. I'm in Orlando in Stoneybrook East, next to Avalon Park, last night was getting .5-.6mb down and this morning I got 5.2mb down+.75 up. Near the OIA, I'm getting 3mb down and .6-.8 up. NOT TOO SHABBY!
[Nexus One General] saint327:
Testing my speeds today, something has changed here (Deltona). My download rate seems the same (under 1mbps), but my upload has doubled from ~350kbps to ~700kbps. This has to be tied to the June 19 promo :) Free phones on America's fastest network :)
[Nexus One General] Alleviate:
This is amazing! I haven't used 3G in a while because I've been mostly at home using my Wi-Fi. I saw this post, switched to 3G, and tested the speeds: 4Mbps DL speeds! I never got over 600 kbps before!

I live in Orlando ;D
[Nexus One General] :
Still waiting in southf florida for high speed love. =(
[Nexus One General] Alleviate:
Don't worry you'll get it soon :D
[Nexus One General] blisk:
They seem to be tweaking it too. I called and really *****ed cause the upload has always been choppy and weak on the speedtest. Now when I was testing when I posted this thread it had the higher down but the same terrible upload. Upload is now very consistent and at 600kbps here... Jefferson it was 400 at best with 280 average. I can't be happier with T-Mobile right now.

I'm still getting stuff like an up arrow without a down arrow which I thought would be solved by a faster more consistent upload but its actually a bit worse. Takes a long time for it to get a response from a site or send out a text. Froyo seemed a lot better about that tho so hopefully that'll be fixed once I go back. Someone posted its a handoff between 3g and h that causes that. Anyone have that issue?
[Nexus One General] mtw4991:
Occassionally, I get the "stuck" up-arrow also, but it's more than offset by the normal speed differences, imho. They haven't totally got all of Central Florida/Orlando up n running yet, but close. Orlando was officially named as one of the first 25 cities to go HSPA+....take that Evo, lol.:p
[Nexus One General] apreichner:
Yep, since the upgrade I went from an average of 500-600kbps to 3000-4000kbps on speedtest.net tests.

Kind of an off-topic comment, but recently I was driving down Alafaya Trail towards UCF and I saw a bumper sticker of a green Android taking a piss on an Apple. It made me laugh so hard. Is that any of your guy's bumper sticker? lol?
[Nexus One General] mtw4991:
Nope, but I want one:p:D:D
[Nexus One General] sheek360:
Holy crap. Usually I'm at about 500k download and 600k upload. Today I was hitting 900k download and 1mb upload. My signal indoors stayed on 3g too. It usually drops to edge indoors. Suddenly after two hours the party was over. Slow upload and download again. Here in Miami Florida btw. What do u guys make of this?
[Nexus One General] heygrl:
Give it some more time? They're doing something good (sounds like they're filling in 3G) so it might take some time before it's all over and done with.
[Nexus One General] Christ88:
I have been bragging to my friends and co-workers for the past few months about T-mobile and their plans to upgrade. Coming from an iPhone/at&t I have been very satisfied with my pre-paid plan and the HD2 phone (considering it's windows and all but I still hold out hope for android to be ported) but 3G is easily lost when holding the phone indoors.

Over the past day or two here in Port Saint Lucie FL I have noticed a stronger more consistent 2-3 bars on 3G where I normally would see only 1-2 bars, 3 briefly on a good day. I also have gone from 45kb/s upload and 160-200kb/s download to a consistent upload of 160-190kb/s and 400-900kb/s download. The upload seems much more consistent while the download seems choppy and seems to happen in chunks with a pause between which affects the short overall time of most speed tests.

I think the test would be more accurate if they sampled data from a larger timeline and averaged it out. This seems to hold true for all phones I have tested.
[Nexus One General] heygrl:
That sounds more like a problem with the HD2, it's 3G reception lags behind other phones, it will easily switch over to EDGE - granted the 3G signal is weak, the phone should be able to hold onto it.
[Nexus One General] Christ88:
I forgot to mention that I initially had this problem and that I solved it by using radio version 2.10.50.26 and ROM is 2.13.531.1 which helped with my signal slightly(I would say .5 to maybe 1 bar in terms of signal). I also made a few tweaks as well such as T Mobile "internet" selected vs Data (it made a difference surprisingly) with internet2.voicestream.com as my apn which I realize this is said to be a slower APN but it's not, at least for me and finally I have disabled EDGE all together by manually selecting a baseband of WCDMA and GSM 1900/850/UMTS1700). This helped stop the constant hunting from edge to 3g and drasticly improved battery life somehow but I'm not really familiar with phone technology past my need to just get this working properly. I previously used a HTC G1 for a few months after switching from my iphone/edge only and noticed similar signal levels as my modified HD2 is now seeing. Also the download chunks seemed similar and upload consistency seems better with the HD2 and new HSPA+ as well as lower latency/initial connection request times.
[Nexus One General] saint327:
Looks like it has made its way further north. Deltona is getting it atm. 3.5mb down, .7mb up :) Yay
[Nexus One General] sheek360:
Nothing new on the Miami front...
[Nexus One General] saint327:
Deltona is a bedroom community for Orlando lol, so I guess they have it as part of the greater Orlando area. I would assume Miami and southeast Florida will lite up together as well.
[Nexus One General] Tortri:
I can confirm that the Mayport/Jacksonville area must be getting it soon. The other day I was at work and went to compare my buddies 4g to my 3G and when I did I got 300kB (yes bytes, not bits) on my phone, which caught me off guard.. It's sporadic..

Also tmobile data was being retarded today which has me to believe that they are fooling around with their network.

Anyone else in the mayport/Jacksonville area getting the same results? It isn't consistent, you have to use the speedtest.net app a couple of times to see it happen.
[Nexus One General] sheek360:
In Miami I was sitting on 500kb. Lately I have been fluctuating between 500kb and 1.8mb. Not hsdpa+ but its an improvement. Going to Tampa this weekend. I hope the speeds are decent. Anyone know if hsdpa+ has been rolled out in Tampa?
[Nexus One General] posito75:
Here is the deal with miami. I work in downtown and speed there is 1500 kbps down and 2000 up. Its been like that the past 3 weeks. The farther away from downtown you go the slower the speed. I constantly check speeds with speed test app and downtown seems like the place they are testing it.
[Nexus One General] sheek360:
Thanks for the Intel. It isn't hsdpa+ though right? I live near the airport. Att wireless pings about 2.2mb here. T-Mobile had me at about 500k.
[Nexus One General] posito75:
Yea the airport is a little too far from their testing towers. I believe they are testing hsdpa+. I was testing three phones yesterday. The Evo, iphone 3g, and my nexus one. Evo got speeds of 500 kbps down and 200 up(no 4g in miami). Iphone got 1000 kbps down and 250 up. Nexus one got 1650 kbps down and 2100 up. Tmobile is doing something. Good news for us miami folks.
[Nexus One General] uoY_redruM:
I'm getting speeds of up to, after a few tests, 5.08 while at home (I live near Valencia CC East) and while at work I'm only getting ~2.13 (I work near the Orlando EXECUTE Airport).

At work, I was losing 3G completely, back a few weeks ago. I actually sent my phone in for repair cause I thought the radio was bad. Got it back, still no 3G. Few days later, full 3G with much faster speeds. I wasn't using the forums then so I had no clue about the HSDA towers.....
[Nexus One General] sheek360:
Guys, I'm here in Miami. I'm going to start heading out to Tampa. Ill take a few screenshots using the speedtest.net app. Just to show off the transition between Miami and Tampa. Ill tweet with GPS on so u can see the exact location too. I hope this is of use. My twitter username is sh33k360 and I will start my trek and screenshots at 5pm eastern. Lets see what all the hsdpa+ who pla is all about!

Again, twitter username is sh33k360
[Nexus One General] sstang2006:
Pisito, I have checked speeds in Hialeah, Davie and Opa locka.

Hialeah= 1.5 down 1.7 up

Cinemark Paradise 24‎(Davie)= 3.2 down 2.0 up

Opa locka= .7 down 1.3 up
[Nexus One General] sheek360:
I'm omw to Tampa from Miami on a lil vacation. Every 30 minutes or so I'm posting a screenshot of my latest ping. Hialeah didn't fare well lol. Tampa has hsdpa + and ill screenshot pings from bush gardens, the hotel etc. My twitter is sh33k360

Feel free to rt!
[Nexus One General] sstang2006:
cool, following. (Hialeah sucks at everything lol)
[Nexus One General] sheek360:
Lmao. I have pinged about 1.5 outside of westland mall.
[Nexus One General] magma9495:
All this week evey time I tested I got around .5 mbs but today I tested and i got this (davie area ;P)

but then it jumped back down to .7. Hopefully this is a sign we will be getting it soon :D

edit: just tested again and got this result :eek:
[Nexus One General] sheek360:
I just got back from Tampa. I couldn't find Hsdpa+ anywhere! Their speeds were about the same in Miami. What troubles me is that T-Mobiles 3g band can't penetrate a building worth a damn. Unlike its competitors. 2100mhz band ftl
[Nexus One General] heygrl:
The network isn't just HSDPA, it's HSDPA and HSUPA. Poor 3G building penetration can be a number of things and usually has little to do with the uplink band.

HSPA+ isn't a lightswitch type of thing, they're basically starting HSPA+ rollouts now with a good portion of Tampa or wherever covered.
[Nexus One General] ugly pete:
jax beach here.... data went down for a while last night. this morning i was hitting 3mb/s where i normally pull 500k
[Nexus One General] sheek360:
It hid from me. I was all over Tampa and I pinged everywhere. Couldn't find it. Going forward, att wireloess, sprint and Verizon's 3g penetrates my walls just fine. But tmobiles doesn't. I Alison live about 4 blocks away from a tower lol. The 2100mhz band can't penetrate as good as the edge 800 MHz band. I guess if your neighborhood is flooded with amazing T-Mobile coverage it may not be a problem. But I expected better, seeing how I live so close to a tower. Infrony of the tower I get about 800kb. Outside of my house I get about 500 KB. With att wireless inside my home I got almost 4mb on a hsdpa 7.2 ready phone.
[Nexus One General] heygrl:
If you live 4 blocks away from a tower and have a 3G signal that's non-existant but have a much stronger PCS(T-Mobile 2G is 1900MHz, you're completely misinformed about that because T-Mobile holds no 850 licenses), that means your tower isn't 3G - if that's the one you're getting your signal from which could or could not be the case. That's just one possibility and it's usually the reason why 2G is much stronger than 3G.

Unless you tested each and every 3G tower (you'd need a map of each 3G tower to be accurate) in Tampa, there is no way to can say you tested the "entire" 3G network. HSPA+ could only be downtown, it could only be in a few select suburbs and etcetera. The fact that people that live in Tampa have posted up HSPA+ speedtests means you didn't go to where it's currently rolled out at.
[Nexus One General] ugly pete:
just did a test while tethered. nexus one stock 2.2

speedtest.net/result/869953029.png

jax beach.

4.41 down. wish i could post the picture :P
[Nexus One General] tnpapadakos:
in land o'lakes, florida

i think they threw the switch on the hsdpa+, i never had more than 900kbps up here
[Nexus One General] mtw4991:
In Orlando near Stoneybrook/Waterford Lakes and near the airport, I was getting 3-4-5 mbps down and .5-.6 upload speeds. Today, for some reason, I'm back to getting .5 up and .3 down....

Anyone else experiencing issues???
[Nexus One General] Christ88:
I haven't seen much fluctuation in the network past a slight drop in performance(ping/transfer rate) during peak hours. From what I can tell software settings play a huge part of it for me. With the stock settings I rarely get 3G much less H and with my custom settings 3G/H are available 70-80% of time.

My biggest problem is a 2-3 bar drop (I average 2-3) when holding the phone or blocking the signal in even the slightest way. Two blocks from my house I can get full bars but once inside (wood frame) the house with only 1 wall between me and outside I get 2-3 bars and when holding it that drops even further to 0-1 bars.

But for $60 a month 500 mins/free nights/weekends, unlimited text & data with speeds that rival most home connections in the US I really can't complain. Better signal would really make my HD2/Tmobile an unbeatable combination...