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[XPERIA X10 General] lunarken:
i installed at 81%.. went for a bathe n found the batt dropped to 79%. tats strange.

how to make sure the S/E default launcher is been shut down for good
[XPERIA X10 General] Mystiqueen:
installed Helix launder but when choose to launch it says 'activity not found -com.helixproject.launder'.....
[XPERIA X10 General] Trikratus:
please delete, sorry by my mistake.
[XPERIA X10 General] Trikratus:
Perfect Brow !! tks by sharing your bad experience... but this happened its sound how the Xperia X10 project had fail , becaus if the new launcher Helix have a better consume for baterry, what you think about sound and the others problems ? Look to the speed they liberate and install the new Froio 2.2 or 2.1. It´s have a bigg point for think...

Regards, :)
[XPERIA X10 General] TechGuru_x10:
3G is off that's correct but Wireless was only on and the Rest disabled.

Phone was idle for 10 hours(93%) ---( I was sleeping at this point), and then started downloading apps from market, reading from xda, sync email from gmail, took some pics and one video of 3 mins.. 13hours - 90%..

Phone was on use for another 2 hours, fidling with songs and videos from Youtube....

Definitely used the phone for calls and sms, here and then.....

Currently is at 73%....

My Fellow XDA's, I hope the same is fixed by next update which are to get.....As I do not like 3rd party apps too much until required.......
[XPERIA X10 General] imugur:
I noticed that Google Maps with navigation is eating a lot of battery. I did an unistall and I will test again with 3G on always to see if there are improvements.

Mugur

http://mugur-ionescu.ro/tag/xperia
[XPERIA X10 General] CompactDstrxion:
My phone's just hit the 46 hour mark and the battery is almost dead.
[XPERIA X10 General] rynoon:
I was dubious when I first started reading this thread. but I'm up to 16 hours and 45 minutes with 41% of my battery remaining with Helix. This is with a normal days use; some wifi, a couple calls, texts, tweeting, browsing on the bus, etc.

Before I would get maybe 14 hours of battery life out of a single days use before I would have to charge.
[XPERIA X10 General] ashman84:
installed helix launcher.. But i dont see a significant difference in battery consumption.. :( am i doing something wrong?
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Just installing, won't do the Trick...

Do you actually use it instead of the stock launcher?

Did you restart the Phone at least once?
[XPERIA X10 General] ashman84:
lol.. of course..

i meant i installed it and Im using it.. its currently the default home screen. I however, did not restart the phone which I shall try now..

I apologize, I guess the questions was framed a lil nooby.. lol
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
I also didn't see any difference, before I made Zeam my default homescreen and restarted the phone.

Just a guess from my side: The stock homescreen maybe autostarts several background tasks... But I'm not sure about that..

No, not at all.

I'm just not speaking English as my native Language.

Its hard for me to read between the lines.

So its easier for me to ask the things, that aren't 100% clear to me... :D
[XPERIA X10 General] Nocturnal310:
not much difference...

i think there is some process still eating battery life.
[XPERIA X10 General] PollPixx:
tested now for 3 days together with "Task Panel" and "Power Manager" and "Sleep my Phone" I have astonishing results.

Yesterday 5pm fully charged. Restarted after getting of the charger.

Now it is 2pm, 21 hours later and I have still 84%.

I called for around 15 minutes in total, send 9 SMS, Been on the market for a while, played games for around half an hour. GPS and 3G Off for most of the time and between midnight and 8am automatically in Plane Mode.

When just unpacking the phone my battery was as good as dead after 10 hours of hardly use, now it uses 16% in 21 hours, amazing improvements.

Not sure which program it is, but combining them like I do works very, very well...

Thought I should share this here:D

Cheers,

Arnold
[XPERIA X10 General] Beanyness:
Restarted the phone after setting Helix to default?

Seems to be that the only people who have problems are ones that do not restart the phone after installing Helix.

So if the OP see's this please put this in your post. Cheers.
[XPERIA X10 General] Nocturnal310:
i set it default..and restarted the phone.

how to make sure the SE Home is not running in background?
[XPERIA X10 General] Vin87:
Android automatically shuts down the stock SE Home when not using it (atleast thats what I assume). If you are using an homescreen replacement and want to switch back to the SE Home you'll notice it takes a while to start up, first you'll see the SE Home without the widgets and then the widgets load which indicates that SE Home wasn't running in the background at all.
[XPERIA X10 General] Mobzter:
Wel i decided to go all out and just did a factory reset aswel as format my sd card. I later installed helix launcher although aint restarted phone yet.

Phones been on for over 16hrz and running at 15% now.

In that time ive had few callz, many msgz, lotz of fiddling about sortin my phone out again, 30minz of gps, around 2hrz of 3g and 6hrz of wifi which doesnt include the 5hrz where i knocked of completely with 3g and wifi on! had brightness on 33% during most of that time too! must say im really happy and hope it continues!

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[XPERIA X10 General] johnaachen:
Helix problems

I get the error message "activity not found - com.helixproject.launcher" when trying to install any ideas?
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Japp.... read this thread from the beginning..

Or just install the correct Version...
[XPERIA X10 General] johnaachen:
HelixLauncherDONUT_1.2.apk is the version I tried.....
[XPERIA X10 General] rynoon:
Maybe there was a problem with your download. Have you tried downloading it again and trying once more?
[XPERIA X10 General] johnaachen:
Yep! I am trying to use Astro file manager to install it. It seems to install okay but then when I try and launch I get the error message above....
[XPERIA X10 General] Mobzter:
i was wonderin once u use helixlauncher does the android home app disappear or does it show up in your task manager still running?

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[XPERIA X10 General] Psi-ko1:
Helix Launcher 1.2 for Donut

You dont have to turn off Wi-Fi unless you are out of range of your router. If Wi-Fi remains on it drains battery searching for Wi-Fi networks. Letting sleep when not in use is good. Turn off auto update for Timescape it will update when you tap on the tile and access older posts. I Use only Wi-Fi, BT, GPS, Profile... Weather Eye... Voice Search... for widgets. I have 3 home screens and only have apps installed that I use regularly, if not I uninstall unless I paid for it.

I GET:

3-4 hours games

1/2-1 hr music

1 hour of calls

Boat loads of messages (100+)

2-3 hours web (incl FB and torrents)

All in all I charge from 1am-8:45am each day, when I goto plug in I usually have 5%-15% of battery left. so I'd say with a 5% margin of error I get a full day from my phone.
[XPERIA X10 General] Sam Lloyd:
Helix is amazing from 06h00 to 13h00 bat down from 100% to 31% install helix at 13h15 now 18h21 bat at 24% browsing calling all the time:):):):)
[XPERIA X10 General] james_2k:
yeah with helix my phone has gone down to 64% after 1 day 1 hour. thats impressive considering normally it would be flat by now.
[XPERIA X10 General] undergrounddemand:
I've been using Helix launcher on my XPERIA X10 since I've read this post and it's really awesome, the battery really drains slower than with the original launcher.

But, I noticed a weird behaviour after start using the Helix. (Well, or it's just a strange coincidence, because before start using the Helix my cell would charge 100%)

With the default home launcher, my cell would charge until 100%. But now with Helix, it doesn't cross the 90%.

When it reaches 90% the light turns green (like it was fully charged).

Is there anyone with the same issue? The phone is brand new, and I do power cycle charging everytime.

Thanks
[XPERIA X10 General] feis:
Mine never goes up to 100%, usually it stops at about 95%-97%, dont know if this is common issue for x10 users. In my case helix launcher has nothing to do with this.
[XPERIA X10 General] Bennachie:
Light goes green at 90% but GOES OUT at 100% fully charged
[XPERIA X10 General] CompactDstrxion:
This is correct the last few percent is done using 'trickle charging' which is slower.
[XPERIA X10 General] johnaachen:
I have tried downloading the Helix launcher but cannot get it to run! I have installed it using the Astro file manager but when I select "Launch" I get an error message. I saw someone else had this problem in this thread -has anyone else had the same problem?
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
try powering your phone off and then on.. I think it will then ask you what you want to use it as your home launcher.
[XPERIA X10 General] Mobzter:
Do any of you see stock home running on your task manager aswel as helix launcher?

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[XPERIA X10 General] johnaachen:
Mr Iceman you are a star! Thank you so much! So now I have it is there anything special to do with it or just sit back and wait for the battery performace to improve?!
[XPERIA X10 General] johnaachen:
After all that I decided taht I like the original home better! I couldnt add the time to the main home screen and it didnt seem any more user friendly?!
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
Hi Joanaachen - You can add the time etc.. they're just widgets (long press on the home screen select "widget")... you can also add more screen.. and it auto rotates when you turn the phone sideways.. which the original home doesn't!!
[XPERIA X10 General] Mobzter:
For some odd reason I have 2 stock homes running.. can any 1 help me?

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[XPERIA X10 General] TechGuru_x10:
Congrats buddy.........
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Uhm Guys?

Are you also experiencing a higher battery drainage after a longer period of using an alternative launcher?

I'm on "Zeam" for about a week now.

Just after installing, everything went fine, and my Phone took about two days without charging, while I used as usual.

Now, the Battery drops again as fast as it did before.

I've to charge it at least all 10 hours and charging also lasts longer.

Right after installing Zeam, my phone charged 0% - 100% in 1,5 hours (at 1000mA in my self-made cigarette lighter solution).

No I again need about 4 hours at 1000mA or 6 at 500mA (from USB)

:confused:
[XPERIA X10 General] Teio:
ok, just installed it, going to bed now, its charging, so tomorrow I'm gonna test it as a normal user, ie., 3g on, wifi off (on while at home), then ill come back and post results... then next time ill test in power save mode, ie., 3g off, 2g on for background updates like weather and others, wifi on Only when surfing...

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[XPERIA X10 General] UserX10:
The Helix Launcher didn´t worked for me. The same situation as with other Launcher... :-(
[XPERIA X10 General] imugur:
I was trying Helix Launcher in the past week and before that GDE. While in idle with no data connection (3G or WiFi) and in GSM mode I saw some minor improvements but not noticeable with Helix. If using moderate WiFi and 3G connections (regular e-mail reading, but not push, some web browsing and Pocket Empires a lot :-) ), normal voice calls, cardio trainer with GPS one hour, the battery lasts from the morning (7AM) till 8-9 PM without any charging with any of the home applications. For me is enough!

Mugur

http://mugur-ionescu.ro/tag/xperia
[XPERIA X10 General] Teio:
Normal use, 15 hours - 67% so far...

Awesome, it was 15 hours - flat, before...

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[XPERIA X10 General] Nocturnal310:
report back after a week

my battery drainage is back to normal
[XPERIA X10 General] neomira:
I have tried Helix Launcher and set it as default. After 1 or 2 restarts that stock Home will Automatically run as the default with Helix running in the background. I get the same problem with ADW launcher.

I dont want the stock Home to run if using an alternative. Anyone have a fix or any ideas?

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[XPERIA X10 General] Mobzter:
Stock homes not meant to run as default. When you hit the home you should get a choice to decide what launcher you want to pick! If the choice doesnt come then goto settings then manage applications, find 'home' tap it then tap the button that says clear defaults. Now when you click home you should get the choice menu again!

However if its the situation which i used to have then cant really be much help. My problem at the time was helix would be my default launcher however whenever i saw the task manager there was also 2 instances of stock home running, even 3 at timez! I did a factory reset and installed adw, everythings workin fine!!

Hope it helpz!!

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[XPERIA X10 General] neomira:
Thanks Mobztar, i will try again.

If u set adw or helix as the default launcher, is the stock home still meant to automatically load up on restart, regardless of whether it is default or not? I cant figure out how 3rd party launchers would save battery life if the stock hime is still running in the background... just curious.

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[XPERIA X10 General] piercewei:
Same to me. Sigh...
[XPERIA X10 General] Mobzter:
Nope stock home shouldnt run after you set adw as default..

Just in incase you didnt know.. adw is updated now to v0.7.8! you can find it on market but for those who cant get it, ive uploaded and created a link.. should work! (I hope)

http://db.tt/xCWQzM

Hope it helpz!!

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[XPERIA X10 General] Vilam:
Helix launcher make my baterry run over two days ! Thnks for this trick !

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[XPERIA X10 General] bimmerboii:
Not just helix but zeam makes my battery last longer too. I think the point is to replace the x10's original homescreen with any other homescreen and it will fix battery problems.
[XPERIA X10 General] Mobzter:
Ok now i knw this doesnt relate to launchers but it does to saving battery (for me anyway)

Its to do with the music player side. Last week i tested mediascape, music playin full volume with earphones for an hr and i had a 13% battery drain.. (screen off and jus letting playlist continue)

Tried meridian the other day with the same scenario and lost 3%!!

Today was more ridiculous cause by accident my 3g was left on an all aswel as the above and i only lost 1%!!!

Anyways thought maybe people could do with a better music player that also has a nice widget for controlling playback.

Hope it helpz!!

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[XPERIA X10 General] chiqamia0122:
Having a hard time using Helix.. Help :(

I downloaded Helix Launcher Donut 1.2, installed it in my X10, but still I can't see any HELIX icon.. Please I dont know what to do :(
[XPERIA X10 General] mmk92:
I dont think it'll be any diffrent if the phones on standby for battery life.
[XPERIA X10 General] viet2viet:
try pressing the button ans see! lol!
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
@chiqamia0122 - you need to go in to settings and "applications" - Find "HOME" clear defaults and then when you press the home button it will give you three options.. - Home, Timescape and Helix..
[XPERIA X10 General] chiqamia0122:
I always chose "HELIX LAUNCHER" then I observed in just 10 minutes my battery already lost 5%.. :(
[XPERIA X10 General] suzed:
Chiquamia, try ADWlauncher and a little app called Home Switcher which you can then have on your desktop to switch between and set as default the launcher you want to use.

I know you are having battery problems from the other thread, have a look at any apps you have downloaded because some create drain rather than solve it. Remove back to basic then add one at a time to see which one gives you a drain over a few hours.
[XPERIA X10 General] chiqamia0122:
I already downloaded ADW Launcher, as of now I can't see the changes, I think I have to observe for 3 days.. Does ADW Launcher has automatic Task Manager? Does it affect my battery or not? Thank you!! :)
[XPERIA X10 General] _raz_:
Stock home still runs in background!

Exactly. The few who have posted here about stock home running alongside helix or ADW can't be the only ones with this problem???

I've seen a bit of an improvement when using Helix, and did see the same using ADW as well. Went back to Helix... BUT what bothers the hell out of me is that the stock home launcher is always & still running! And always has. Using Advanced Task Cleaner Pro you can easily see the system apps, and sometimes you'll even see TWO instances of the stock home running. I've had that on autokill, but the stock home just launches again, and again, sometimes nearly immediately, sometimes much much later. So I gave that up (along with task-killing in general).

After rooting (universal androot), I've now had the stock home Frozen using the freeze-function in Titanium Backup (donation version) today. It doesn't seem to make much of a difference, but I've only tested that for one day...

So what's the solution? Can you uninstall the stock home (launcher.apk) safely? Can you reinstall it from a backup (e.g. using Titanium's backups?).
[XPERIA X10 General] zen719:
Hello everybody, i want to know too if its safe unistall the default launcher and use other (Helix, ADW etc) someone has tried it?.

i run Advanced Task Manager every 10 minutes and it always show applications runing as timescape and others than i dont use maybe its the cause and not default laucher SE?

thanks
[XPERIA X10 General] tigger69:
I'm using ADW launcher, with the buuf theme, i also have home switcher on. I turn off my wi-fi and 3g when i dont need em, no need to have em draining the battery when i dont need them on 24/7, i switch em on with quick settings when needed. I turn it off on a night and back on in the morning. My battery can last 2 or 3 days like this with moderate use, i did let it drain flat and charge it for the first few days i had it. I kinda do the same now though it does get plugged in for a few mins a couple of times a day though if i am putting stuff on it.
[HD2 General] TheGreenManalishi:
I have both at the moment, till i have decided which one to keep.

I have to be honest and say that i much prefer the form factor of the HD2, the Desire feels like a mid price phone in comparison?

But, and its a big but, i do prefer the choice of software etc available for Android.

Couple of questions, which im hoping will seal it for the HD2,

1. Whats the chances of ever getting either WM7 or Android on to the HD2?

2. I know i sound like a girl but, the Facebook app on WM6.5 is garbage, how likely is it that we will ever get something as useable as the Iphones?
[HD2 General] ennx:
No question. The Desire is a better phone to own. It's Android. The differences between Android and Windows are enormous. Dump the HD2. It's gorgeous hardware wasted on the world's worst OS.
[HD2 General] TheGreenManalishi:
Does that mean its a no regarding the possible WM7 port then, and the ahem "facebook" app? (and of course a possible Android workaround)
[HD2 General] ennx:
Why use Windows when much better alternatives are available to you?
[HD2 General] TheGreenManalishi:
Basically cos hardware wise the HD2 appeals so much more....
[HD2 General] ennx:
I feel the same way. But I have to say, that as an iPhone power user, and a person with a lot of Android hours, this is really a terrible device, gorgeous hardware or not. There is simply no comparison. I cannot do the things with ease that I'm accustom to doing.
[HD2 General] shu8i:
omg just ansewer his questions? :rolleyes:

@android: dcordes & team already have a working linux kernel; basicly it's a question of time; there's already a video player which you can play under linux: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=651632

@wp7: is being developed by Da_G; also a question of time: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=685272
[HD2 General] ennx:
What do you mean OMG just answer his question. I think my reply suffices for any intelligent reader.
[HD2 General] shu8i:
he asked two questions and you're descussing woinmovsiphone&andoid :rolleyes:
[HD2 General] TheGreenManalishi:
Many thanks, thats the answer i was looking for.
[HD2 General] ennx:
What answer were you looking for?
[HD2 General] TheGreenManalishi:
Im not trying to be rude here but did you read my original post?
[HD2 General] ennx:
I think I read it. You're not rude.
[HD2 General] PoisonWolf:
There's your problem and bias. Whatever you can do on android, I'm pretty certain any Windows Mobile user can do just as fast, if not faster on the HD2.

Your choice OP. Android or Windows Mobile. Windows Mobile may be an old OS, but it still works if you know what you're doing. But of course, if you have no idea, go Android.

EDIT:

If facebook is so important to you, to a point where it precedes all else about a phone and its OS, go with whichever yields the best usability to you then. What exactly are you looking for here? For us to daddy you into making a choice?
[HD2 General] TheGreenManalishi:
There were two questions relating to OS, and ahem facebook.
[HD2 General] PoisonWolf:
Edited my earlier post.
[HD2 General] fantasytozi:
It depends on your needs, I think, so think carefully before selling.

But go for Android just for Facebook apps.... It's not worth it.

IMO, HD2 has all the things I need and MOD for HD2 is produced days by days, hopefully, will have a chance for dual boot?? We have to wait.

Photos, movies experience, HD2 wins over with big screen. Besides, I hate to convert movies before watching them on my old Hero, and even the Desire now.

Photos loading in Desire is very slow. And I still prefer the colors that HD2 provides. IMO, I dont like the color in Amoled screen.

Music is about the same but HD2 has a function to Update Music Album.

Office apps, HD2 wins again.

Customizations, it depends on personal taste. I like Cookie Home Tab, and a MaxSense mod just released, maybe. But if u like widgets, go for Android. Sense in HD2 provides it all, from Contacts, SMS to Weather, but in Android 7 screens isnt enough for all I need beautifully.

Games, I would say about the same. Good games for Android still not too many but it will develop.

Fun apps, Android wins if u need it. I just miss Tunewiki and Layar so much.

Browser, Android is faster but not really smoother. Scrolling still lags and buggy somehow, both in default apps and the best app Dolphin HD. Opera 10 is the

smoothest but Opera 9.7 can also be tweak to be smooth like 10.

Finally, HD2 has a great build quality and specs, dual led, chip and ram the same but the feel is greater in hand if u dont mind about it 4.3' screen becomes too big....

Well, it depends on u so think carefully :)
[HD2 General] TheGreenManalishi:
Jeez, loosen up, if you read the original post you will see what i am after. I prefer the HD2, BUT would like to know how likely it is for Android and/or WM& to come to it.....

If there is no chance i will prolly go for the Android device, if there is then it has to be the HD2, which, imo, looks like a cut above visually and build quality wise.

What is it about forums that makes people want to try to beat down on others?

I asked two questions, two guys have made the effort to answer those questions...end of.
[HD2 General] TheGreenManalishi:
Thanks for that, really appreciate you taking the time to go through the pro's and cons.

There are such a bewilldering number of threads on each subject (hardware and software) that its a massive help if someone tells you what the current state of play is.