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[Nexus One General] rockky:
When has Google ever said there was gonna be a Nexus Two? That'd be nice. I've been kinda doubting that.
[Nexus One General] Rusty!:
I thought it was decided to be the case? I'm sure I read that they both have the same memory, it's just reported differently.

512Mb RAM + 64Mb baseband?

Or have I invented something?
[Nexus One General] FISKER_Q:
Actually it is, first of all the only game i've ever installed was a few days ago, after the FroYo demo (Replica Island).

Second of all, the issues still exist whether or not you use it for games, i've frequently had the touchscreen do hiccups, especially in swiping motions, i've also many times seen the multitouch gestures work poorly such as pinch to zoom, actually zooming out, instead of zooming in.

So please don't insult me.
[Nexus One General] MonkySlap:
Alot of people are leaving out a crucial argument for what phone is better. Lets face it, if you look just as hardware specs, yes. The incredible and evo 4 are better. BUT most people its not just hardware that makes it better. Software in crucial too. This is where the N1 shines.

Google has complete control over what gets to the phone. All other android phones have two other levels to go through. One is the hardware manufacturer to update there drivers and proprietary stuff, then next you have the carriers that want there modifications in there too.

No we dont want our cust to have tethering, remove that. Install all this bloat ware on the phone and make it so they can not remove it without voiding there warranty. Also change the market, instead of them having a easy tab to get to there installed apps, let change that to just show our apps.

the N1 experience way exceeds the Incredible. I cant speak to the Evo4 since I have yet to play with it. But IMHO the N1 runs laps around them.
[Nexus One General] rockky:
Preferences bro....just preferences. A point that really makes much of this thread wasted space.
[Nexus One General] attn1:
From a connectivity POV, a GSM phone using CDMA for 3G is better than CDMA only phones.

Better international interoperability

Ability to do simultaneous voice and data

CDMA phones like Evo and Incredible lose those points.
[Nexus One General] :
No it's an ass you wear as a hat.
[Nexus One General] jmbrown32:
All of this is a little ridiculous. The Nexus, Incredible, and Evo are all very nice phones, and each has some features that make it "better" than the others. The Evo has a much bigger screen, HDMI out, and 4G; the Incredible has a camera with more megapixels (this doesn't really make it better, but it looks nice on a spec sheet) and a better touch screen; and the Nexus One has probably the best dev community of any phone available today, reportedly better build quality, and isn't locked down with Sense UI. Other than these things (and maybe some others I forgot) these three phones are all essentially the same. I really doubt one would notice any real differences in performance in day-to-day use. Determining which phone is the "best" is really just a matter of preference. Personally, I was planning on leaving at&t to get the Evo, but now that I've got a Nexus One, I can't think of any good reasons to get another phone.

Besides, I think there's one thing we can all agree on: Android has certainly leapfrogged the iPhone ;-)
[Nexus One General] J.L.C.:
"Leapfrogged" by carrier-locked CDMA phones?

Really?
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
Haha pretty much.

And to everyone saying that the Incredible and Evo have "leapfrogged" the N1, don't be ridiculous. These hardware differences are so incredible minor; they may be better, sure, but the term "leapfrogged" is taking it

WAY

too far.

No Android phone will leapfrog the current generation until the next processor is released, ie the successor to the Snapdragon. I'm not saying that the CPU is the only important hardware aspect, but when the next line of processors arrive, that will signal the next "era" of hardware specs.

The term "leapfrogged" should be reserved until we see that next generation of CPUs and other increased hardware.
[Nexus One General] Talderon:
T-Mobile = GSM Network

Sprint (EVO) = CDMA Network

So no, you can't... and I'll NEVER... EEEEEEEEEEEVER go back to CDMA...
[Nexus One General] :
You guys know what the term leapfrog means right? It doesn't mean to make something obselete, it just means "next step up".
[Nexus One General] dsixda:
Well let's wait for June when the new iPhone comes out. The current iPhone is a year old, and obviously it is old tech by now (considering the rapid pace at which mobile technology is advancing these days), so it's not a fair comparison.
[Nexus One General] mortzz:
Overclocked A8 and a paltry 256Mb of ram. Solid meh specs-wise.
[Nexus One General] attn1:
urbandictionary.com:ass-hat

Context used is best served by third definition. Someone so incredibly stupid and/or ignorant that everything above their waist is useless; i.e. a hat for their ass.

Wrong. google define leapfrog

jump across; "He leapfrogged his classmates"

advancing as if in the child's game, by leaping over obstacles or competitors; "the company still believes the chip is a leapfrog in integration ..."

progress by large jumps instead of small increments

a game in which one child bends down and another leaps over

The third definition, progress by large jumps instead of small increments is most the applicable definition of leapfrogged used in this context. It is certainly not true when describing the differences between the Nexus One and the Evo, as any advantage is subjective and incremental at best.

That's what makes the author of the original article in the link an asshat, and anyone who buys into his bologna is an asshat too.

So only one question remains; are you going to be an asshat too?
[Nexus One General] KidTech:
During Google I/O they said Gingerbread will be out and HTC said Froyo will be out by end of this year so, we will always be one update ahead of them..
[Nexus One General] :
You are aware the leapfrog comment was made the Gundotra, and not the author or the article, right?

This is what I picture half of the people in thread looking like when they're told other phones have better features:
[Nexus One General] jmbrown32:
I think we, for the most part, acknowledge that there are other phones on the market with slightly better features. However, we also recognize that there are some features that make the Nexus One better and that three extra megapixels which take decidedly worse pictures hardly constitute being leapfrogged.

To reiterate: better hardware specs, yes; better phone, not necessarily.
[Nexus One General] attn1:
Yes Gundotra said it, and the author of the article debunked faster processor claims, then went on to add his own analysis, and then rather matter-of-factually used the word "Leapfrogged" in the title of his article. Gundotra was embellishing, and the author sensationalized the embellishment in order to draw attention to his article with a headline that is not in any way accurate. That then becomes fodder for 75 bazillion threads like this one all over the place arguing over basically nothing but subjective opinion.

So far, there is no leapfrogging. Yes, the Evo and Incredible have some incrementally better features, but for some they are offset by a couple of significant detractors.

My subjective opinion and conclusion stands: the author of the article is an asshat.
[Nexus One General] :
Those phones have better hardware. There's nothing subjective about that.
[Nexus One General] Fuskand:
Define "better hardware"

Sure, they have better touch sensors. Sure, they have somewhat better cameras. Sure, one of them has 8GB internal storage, and the other, 1GB of ROM.

But do they have better processors? No. More RAM? No. Higher resolution screen? No. Better audio quality? No.

Those phones have nothing that could qualify as a critical new feature that changes the market.
[Nexus One General] :
Lol, why do you need qualifiers like "critical" for something to be better? Change the market? Who's talking about any of that.

Every piece of hardware the nexus has is in cluded in the other phones, PLUS better components. That makes the hardware of other phones.....wait for it....better.

At the end of the day all these HTC devices are gonna be hacked to pieces and you'll be able to load whatever the hell you want on it, as has been proven time and time again by xda.
[Nexus One General] agentkalaw:
there is actually. the evo is only available as a cdma phone. when i travel to different countries i have an option to put a sim card into my N1. sure there are options for cdma phones and travelling but from my experience, SIM cards are more available, cheaper, and are often preferred in rural areas when I travel.

So for my use, it doesn't matter how much more advanced your phone hardware is if i can't put a sim card in it.
[Nexus One General] rockky:
My reading of post one is that the leapfrogging term referred to the CARRIERS choosing to bypass the Nexus...in light of other devices they had or have coming that make the Nexus redundant.

Regardless...comes down to preferences. I like Sense...a LOT and really need a more effective copypaste mechanism.....for me the Incredible is a better device....even in light of root/update potential (which by the way shouldnt be considered when assessing the DEVICE...not the future ehhancement of the device). Preferences guys! Evo: I REALLY like the larger screen....I have a large family and WILL use Qik extensively. I'm frustrated with call volume on my nexus....I've had to turn the phone off twice now typing this because of the touchscreen issue.

So...I'm getting the Evo...and barring major root issue with it...it'll be my new device. My needs and preference.
[Nexus One General] erikku:
+12345... :D

Indeed, no matter how advanced, I'll NEVAR get a CDMA phone. ;)
[Nexus One General] xXJay_RXx:
exactly how? a few little tweaks make the phone better? noooo. maybe for you yes cuz you own one or maybe you're just one of them people that are quick to jump on the next big thing (thats what she said) n you think its better. but like its been stated before, its not. jus cuz its newer doesn't mean its better. who gets the OS upgrades first? we do! who gets em 6-12 months later? everybody else :)
[Nexus One General] j.bruha:
I'm not feeling like my Nexus One was "leapfrogged" for the following reasons:

-All of these new Android phones are running on CDMA networks. With AT&T, I'm already experiencing a faster data connection than either CDMA company around me and I can use data services while still on a call (which I do frequently).

-These devices also run Sense, which drives me absolutely nuts. The features HTC adds aren't worth dealing with the duplicate functionality and overall clutter.

-In some form or another, the data plans for these phones are or will be significantly more expensive than what I'm paying now. My girlfriend and I, both Nexus One owners, are paying $10 each for unlimited data and I have a 22% corporate discount.

-As it's been said, this phone is Google's baby. It is much more exclusive than anything that's being delivered through retail wireless channels and is the first to get the updates. It is the REAL Google phone.

-Although not as important, the noise-canceling microphone does help, and I am glad I have it.

Aside from those reasons, I also haven't seen any major compelling reason to get the Incredible or the Evo. I'd like the HDMI out on the Evo and the bigger screen, but I wouldn't want to deal with Sprint's choppy coverage or go back to an LCD. The Incredible's camera doesn't seem like it's that big of an improvement, I've heard from friends that have it that they've been experiencing reception issues, and after having used Carl Zeiss optics in my Nokia phone in years past, I understand that HTC is probably not going to ever live up to my camera expectations anyway.

More power to those on Sprint and Verizon to buy those devices. The more people using Android, the better, but nobody's purchase is going to make mine feel inadequate.
[Nexus One General] ap3604:
Someone trying to make me jealous of new phones is laughable :p

It's like if someone told me "Oh your girlfriend is old news and isn't good enough because there's a new girl in town with better "stats" (36-24-36)"

I love the N1. It's the best phone out there FOR ME. Just because writers are whores/trolls to the hardware tech industry screaming "THE N1 ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH AHAHAHAHHAH... you MUST buy the lastest and greatest every 3 months!" doesn't mean we have to listen to them :rolleyes:

As an example: Would we even care if some stupid troll wrote an article about how your car is "leapfrogged" by a newer car that came out 5 months later? Would you even think about trading your current one in just because a car came out with some newer features?

I sure wouldn't.

Be happy with your N1... the best phone out there for people who have self confidence in their purchases :D
[Nexus One General] pjcforpres:
The Nexus One was leap frogged because it led the pack for 5 months, which is insane in the tech world. And some would even argue it hasn't even been passed, given that it will have (and sort of does) 2.2 well before any other device, except the Droid/Milestone(should be within weeks, instead of months).

Anyways, so pure hardware wise, the Incredible has a better touch screen sensor and camera... but worse casing.

Evo has better touchscreen sensor (rumor still), screen size, and camera. But casing sounds to be worse as well.

Neither have better CPU's, and RAM is essentially a push given how much Sense takes up, plus the difference is pretty darn small.

I would say, if argued all the way out, the Evo is ahead, by millimeters, then the incredible by a millimeter, then the Nexus One. So close, it doesn't matter at all... and 2.2 months sooner, in my book, gives the N1 the win. So that will make it 5+ months leading the pack. Once again, unheard of in the tech world.
[Nexus One General] jerhoyet:
I tell everyone that I talk to that my phone is better just because it will be the first device to update until Google decides to develop on another device (which will be my next phone unless I switch carriers).
[Nexus One General] xXJay_RXx:
so true. my next phone will be (besides an iphone 4G.....for my BACKUP phones, gaming and ipod) will be the next Google phone. they will always get updates first :)
[Nexus One General] travon802:
And it appears the Evo can only display video and pics from the Gallery thru the HDMI out...

http://androidandme.com/2010/05/news/hands-on-hdmi-out-with-the-sprint-evo/
[Nexus One General] ChillRays:
I absolutely love this comment

"sherifffruitfly

May 27, 2010 at 10:32 pm

The sex tape business will never be the same!"
[Nexus One General] doctajay:
I agree about loving getting my updates first. However I thought I read a while back that after Gingerbread Google would basically be done with pushing out updates every two months and would focus more on make the Android apps better. Hopefully that would allow everything to catch up.
[Nexus One General] Eclair~:
I heard this as well.
[Nexus One General] :
Booo, I can display everything through my hdmi out.....wait a second...
[Nexus One General] infinityhombre:
The N1 has not been passed by. Google has confirmed that the N1 has features that are disabled and would be enabled in later software releases. Besides it does not matter what phone you have. You will never have a device with EVERYTHING. HTC, Motorola, Samsung, etc will never put all their eggs in one basket. Buy a phone with a 5MP camera then an 8MP comes out you buy that because it's better. If you feel the need to hate on the N1 feel free to do so just enjoy the threads in two months saying your Evo or Incredible has been leapfrogged by a phone with 10MP camera and fold out 47" display that does your laundry.:mad:
[Nexus One General] xXJay_RXx:
lmao +1. n +10 if it actually does laundry. girlfriend can be too lazy at times :D
[Nexus One General] gotwake424:
Do tell about these hidden features or point us to the article were google talks about these things
[Nexus One General] travon802:
Got to mess around with an Evo today at work.. and for those that don't know, it has 2 cameras (1 front, 1 back). There's a bug where the front-facing camera shows images like a mirror lol...

http://www.androidguys.com/2010/05/26/evos-frontfacing-camera-shows-mirrored-image-tsk-tsk/
[Desire General] raynerape:
HTC Desire constantly restarting, 5 vibrations through restart then freezing restart! This happened 40 minutes after I bought the device - I immediately returned for replacement. How common are those problems in HTC Desire? I have never had a smartphone die in my hands less than an hour since purchase. Do these problems are limited to small amount of defective devices or they are common? Do they also appear late in using device usage? I am happy I bought it with a good warranty, not a second hand deal but still... I want a device I can use, not just carry for replacement...
[Desire General] Cyaegha:
Sounds like a bad flash, like a ROM update didn't complete properly. Don't really hear many reports of Desires failing, except for the ones people have been fiddling with.

Of course it is normal for a hardware defect to slip in on the odd device. The Desire is not plagued by many of these though, just the odd case like your own. I think its been out long enough for any failure trends to be apparent, and be in the news and all over the forums.

So reliability is great, and I hear reports that the warranty service is amazingly good. I doubt you'll regret your purchase.
[Desire General] mattgod69:
Cyaegha, there are thousands with this issue....... i think its a buggy update that has been automatically applied to the phone...... they are all over the forums.
[Desire General] raynerape:
Just to let you know, I had my phone replaced in 3 very long days, and so far the new one has no issues like that.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] berardi:
I've seen a couple in the Market but they don't look very good based on the reviews. I just want to be able to record hour long lectures to SD card in a decent format. Is there something "standard" that is usually included?

Thanks!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] marvin02:
On the backflip the Sound Recorder does not show up in the apps menu, but you can use Anycut to create a shortcut to it.

Sound Recorder is in the list of activities you can choose.

I don't know if this applies to other phones or if it will meet your needs.

How large would a 60 minute sound file be?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] berardi:
Sorry I should have mentioned - I am running Android 1.6 Myn's Warm Donut on an HTC Vogue.

WOW how strange - Anycut worked exactly how you mentioned. Thanks. Question now - is this part of the internal Android software? So strange that you need anycut to make it initially, and then you can uninstall anycut

I think maybe I had better find a real full recording app, because this one seems to stop as soon as you switch apps. :(

PS Thanks Anycut is awesome anyways, I bought Bettercut I liked it so much :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] marvin02:
I think that the built in sound recorder is intended to be used by more full featured apps. I have not used it much. Please post what app you find that works for you.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] marvin02:
Ok - you made me curious. Look at Rehearsal Assistant it will continue recording if you change to another app and it offers compressed and uncompressed recordings. The price is right, it's free.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] berardi:
Ok sorry for the delay, but I wanted to report back on my testing of EVERY recording app I could scour the market for. I still have yet to find a single stable app. Every single one I've had a problem like recording halts without so much as an error message or indicator. Perhaps it is a weakness in something within Android. Really hoping I can find some kind of solution - I need a voice recorder for the fall, and I would hate to buy one when I have an android device with an 8 GB card... Oh well.

My conclusion: There is a STRONG gap when it comes to a stable recording application.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bestulin:
Dictadroid - new recorder app

Hi,

I stumbled across this post and wanted to mention that there is a new app available on the Android Market called Dictadroid.

I developed Dictadroid with the goal of making a simple but powerful voice recorder.

Please download Dictadroid and let me know what you think. You feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Boris
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Xethron:
Hey guys,

Well I wish to start a small project, where a computer should be able to access wireless internet (3G/HSDPA), WiFi, make calls, maybe use bluetooth, etc... Then I realized that my old HTC TyTn II has all that features... And its faster than the PC im gonne use.

Problem is my HTC screen cracked. So I cant see anything. Thats why I wondered if its possible to set up a Headless Linux System. With that in place I could prob traffic all the things I need via usbnet to the PC (like internet).

The purpose...

Well the reason for this project is a small computer in my car. I ripped out a old laptop and started mounting it in my car. The laptop will then be used to control the HTC, seeing as I doubt one can add external inputs on the HTC. My laptop also has a 10GB HDD and a working screen. So a combo of the two seems fair...

Any advice on this would be very appreciated!

Thanks in advance.

Xethron
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] papo:
I am about to do the same, replacing radio console.

I have some touchscreen lifebooks for this purpose, you can get one for

$100 $200 in miserable state, but to disassemble, who cares

idea was to change dpi in XP and replace explorer on startup, put a 8 button big startup window, with gps, media, video, internet

now you can hook up mobile by "Pocket Controller" it's a reverse remote desktop. you see mobile screen on pc

hope this get you some ideas
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ChumleyEX:
How insane is it that you have a computer that is slower then your phone?

There is a program to remote control your phone, I forget the name.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] papo:
would it be the one I wrote in prev post :)

you can buy it at soti.net. working pretty good.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ChumleyEX:
no, this one is free. I shall do some digging.

------- edit ---------

Cha Ching

http://www.mtux.com/

and a friend suggested this one.

http://www.julien-manici.com/
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] papo:
can't understand how could I have missed this when I was searching for one, and it's pretty old too. good tip, though too late for me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Xethron:
Hey guys,

Thanks allot for the replies... I tried MyMobiler but it doesn't want to connect and seeing that I cant see the screen I am not sure whats happening... Appart from that you guys seem to be misunderstanding me totally!

Problem 1, MyMobiler only runs on windows, and I run Linux...

Problem 2, scripts cant be excecuted on the fly and communications between my two computers wont be possible with Windows Mobile.

Problem 3, Windows mobile crashes and my system will fail totally if my system ever crashes!

Besides, windows mobile have allot of junk I dont need. All I want is a simple Linux system on my HTC on which I can ssh in that will give no video output nor receive input from hardware, but that acts completely as a headless system.

It would also be cool if someone can tell me what hardware I can remove and how (Like the screen) in order to minimize power requirements...

So all I need is a version of Linux and a guide to install it so that all the functions work...

Hope this makes more sense...

Xethron