yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] loganbell45:
i think im just going to try re partitioning the sd card :/ i dunno

or delete all the apps and install only the ones i know i'll use? i thought apps2sd would be more of a help than this haha

EDIT

nope didn't help at all...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] veldargk:
Most apps are not that big. Having 200 MB used up by apps doesn't seem incorrect.

Jim

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Seny via Tapatalk from my Nexus One
[Android Apps and Games] mrgelmer:
sorry :o

id forgetted it^^im sorry for posting it
[Android Apps and Games] bunu:
This is warez. The Pro version cost money (the one on this thread, there is a free non-paid version the market (Just search Nexus Revamped). I would say remove it OP if you don't want to get banned. This forum strictly enforces the no warez rule.

But it does work great. I got the free version, left the settings the same and it works wonderfully great.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nurre:
Can I use ext4 on my sdcard instead of vfat? I'm not a huge fan of fat..

I realize the sdcard is a memory card, and the effect of fragmentation is neglible, but I'd still be interested to see if I can pull some more performance out of the sdcard.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evilkorn:
No, it needs fat for storage.
[Desire General] maxermaxer:
I am going to wait until Jun 23 to upgarde my Desire to Android 2.2. However I am also thinking to root my Desire before that. How likely is it going to be bricked? Is there anyway to *unbrick*? Thanks!!!:D
[Desire General] sruon:
*mindblown*
[Desire General] abc27:
The chance is (At my estimate) 10% of bricking your phone. As long as you follow the instructions it will go perfectly fine.

But even if it does get "bricked" it's very very easy to unbrick it now.
[Desire General] zlivan:
Epic not going beyond first page on any subforum ;)
[Desire General] lsmgeb89:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=691187

this thread will tell you everything.
[Desire General] 007shaolin:
June 23? are u sure? Any official announcements?
[Desire General] zlivan:
Robert said so :)
[Desire General] EddyOS:
Think you wanna take that with a pinch of salt...I wouldn't bet on it being released by then, although it'd be great if it is!
[Desire General] indiewhore:
I did a lot of reading before taking the plunge and following the Modaco method. I found that people had a lot of problems using x64 Windows, and also that a lot of bricks occurred when plugged into a USB hub. So, I used XP 32bit, and plugged right into the motherboard and it worked very well. That's my experience anyway.
[Desire General] cedeel:
Don't know why people report problems using Win7 x64. The programs are all 32 bit and works the same way regardless of the bitness of the OS.

Rooted mine without any issues on Win7 x64.
[Desire General] zlivan:
Yeah, me too. Went smooth, no glitches whatsoever even after a few flashes and with a couple of apps running around. Front USB, too, if it makes any difference ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] hebbe:
hi everybody!

i've got a strange problem with opera (both 9.7 and 10 beta): using a non-wifi connection, the loading of pages is slow as hell, no matter if edge, hsdpa or 3g is being used. using wifi with my broadband connection at home doen't seem to be a problem, though.

using mobile ie on non-wifi connection is ok.

do you have any suggestions what might cause this problem with opera? possible solutions? thanky you all :p:p
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Imgonnagetya:
I'd like to know as well. I'm having the same issue although it doesn't seem to be a problem with Opera mini 5.
[General Topics] xcsdm:
I realize this isn't the most correct place to post this, but apparently, everyone should read this.

I've been involved with the xda modding community for over 4 years. When I came to xda-devs, the iphone didn't exist. Android didn't exist. WebOS didn't exist. If you wanted a "smart phone" your choices were PalmOS, Pocket PC, and a few Symbian based offerings. It's quite possible that the expense and, for lack of a better word, elitism that went with these smart phones meant that "commoners" weren't using them. Especially, they weren't modding them.

In those days, devs were respected. There certainly wasn't this big entitlement feeling that every tom, ****, and harry feel they are owed today. This site was started and grew based on people wanting to develop for these phones. We wanted them to do more. For the most part, if you didn't have anything to contribute, you understood to stfu. Even more important, if you saw a need, you worked to fill it. Many of the guys that started this community STARTED learning because of it. Sure, you'll have questions. Questions are good. The flaming of each other, the putting down of other sites, and the general dickery needs to stop.

It's sad that I look at xda with disdain these days. XDA has gone from a site that I spent most of my day on, and worked to assist where I could, to a necessary evil because I own an HTC device.

I'm thankful to all of the Android devs for their work in rooting so many phones. Thank you HTC for making a phone that works so well, I'm not completely sure I need or want to root it. Thank you XDA for providing a location where we can COLLABORATE.

To all of you kids (either by age or maturity) look up the definition of collaborate, patience, and "common decency"). Please stop being rude, and or demanding... anything. We don't need 30 extra posts to tell us "I'm Not Happy about X" or "User Y is a dork". It's useless. Put it on your myspace page, people may care there.

And to the elitists, don't knock people for thinking of an idea that someone else already tried. At least they are thinking. At least they are trying. And hopefully, they'll learn and take on the next challenge in your stead.

XC
[General Topics] rynosaur:
Here-here!

Appreciation > Ego
[General Topics] heavensblade23:
This place is no different than any other forum, really. People are dicks everywhere.
[General Topics] binny1007:
I feel you pain, this place used to be a comminty of people all over the world, that were here to help. And we all shared one commen goal, to make our phones the best they could be. It really does sadden me to see what has happend. No body is owed anthing. and for some reson everyone feels like they are.

You used to be able to asked a question without getting flamed to death, people and devs would help you with any problem you had, and now..... its just ridiculous the way people are acting. Its not just here, its on all the android forums that i have seen. so dont think that its just here.

To everyone that has helped make this site the best, thank you. And to the rest of you, please leave go somwere else, your kind is not welcome here.
[General Topics] anubis_dragoon:
Sad but true =/ I'm relatively new to xda, but I was really surprised about recent events, I never really expected something like that to happen on XDA.
[General Topics] TNS201:
+1

It happens on all forums, you will have fighting and issues and assholes appearing. Just got to deal with it, thats what moderators are for.
[General Topics] rynosaur:
You have a choice to make things worse or better. I can see what your choice is.

What happened? Someone reported something that was untrue? Or a bunch of people got excited about a sketchy report of root/a mod. That has happened a bunch on XDA. Stick around and it'll happen a bunch more. People make mistakes, hello! We had several overclocking threads that were false starts in G1/Dream. Guess what? People kept trying and eventually, it got done. The people who were *****ing, however, just produced more *****ing--and my my phone does not install non-market *****ing ;)
[General Topics] steb0ne:
Ummm...but why is this thread in the development thread?
[General Topics] heavensblade23:
I'm not saying it's okay to act like a ****, I'm saying it's largely a lost cause. I got sick of people acting like dicks on another, general-purpose, forum, so I left to try to find some place where people were civil. I gave up when I saw someone on an Android banned for rageposting over cell phone batteries.
[General Topics] texag94:
It's here because everyone, in every area, needs to read it and take it to heart.
[General Topics] touchpro247:
Simply because this is where XDA lost face in the eyes of many yesterday. Its not just the sites fault though. Members had a lot to do with it. I'm sure because yesterday was a holiday is the reason it took some time for the Mods to get a handle on things.

I give thanks to the OP for posting here.

Thank you XDA!!!
[General Topics] xcsdm:
I think it is very important to understand where xda came from. This site began with people that not only helped us mod our phones, but were willing to teach us to mod our phones. That way, when the next phone came out, you had more people working to mod the phone.

I put this in a developer thread because development is a large driving force behind xda.

XC
[General Topics] touchpro247:
People need to learn to just report a thread instead of fighting over what's posted in it. Mods will help sort things out I'm sure. We all need to just work together on making this site better and learn from the mistakes of others. The Incredible's development will get better in time its a fairly new device if you think about it. IMO its very nice stock. Keep up the great work Devs and for those who don't dev do your part in making this site a place for ppl to want to come to share and learn.
[General Topics] dephtones:
Although I have not really posted here much, I have been around since the Palm Treo 650 days (loved that damn phone btw) and have always had a deep sense of respect for all the developers here who dedicate their time and efforts to making a smartphone more powerful and more useful outside the stock features. Being a member of the iPhone community for so long, I have had no reason to come to these forums for quite a while so I've been out of the loop. Now that I own a droid incredible, I was led back here by a simple "how-to-root your android" Google search. Since that time, I have seen a lot of commotion about the Incredible.

I am not and never will be able to develop, write code, or become a linux genius. I have been a linux admin for years, but never had a need or want to go into development. That being said, I have always respected those who have the ability to develop software, apps, images, etc.

I think the main problem on these forums now, is too many kids and too many people who expect something to be handed to them rather than be grateful for what they are given. Then again, that's pretty much anywhere you go in the world. The only thing we can do as a community is choose how we respond to these situations. Like adults....

Thanks.

--Matt--

[/Soap box]
[General Topics] Ruoh:
Sadly, I'm seeing these types of issues everywhere. The last 4-5 years has really created a new generation of people that think they can get away with saying whatever they want online. Think of it as the Myspace gen, if you will.

It's painful to say it, but honestly... it's not going to get any better.
[General Topics] rynosaur:
Generation T, as in toilet trained below the waist only. Their mouths seem to run constantly, and not even their spell checkers have been opened . . .:D

It's easy to bash wee tykes. Been happening since antiquity. Hard to root an Incredible, tho. We just need somebody to get a reman unit that still has a testing bootloader installed!
[General Topics] KidJoe:
Exactly right... And I'm one of those who kept my mouth shut as I read and learned here, respecting those who put forth the info that helped me...

I can say the same about Hofo (on which I go by a different name..)

I started there, reading, absorbing, learning.. To pay it back, I started helping others when/where I could. I eventually started a collection of instructions, and writing up info I digested to make it easier for new people to just dive in and learn to do it themselves. I even met (in person) someone I met on hofo, and we worked to create a set of repeatable processes to flash moto phones with non-VZW firmware.

I saw it go from a great site to learn, to a place you're going to get flamed, called names, disrespected, etc... Thankfully, the birth of my son took me away from my cell phone hacking and Hofo just at the right time.

As I visit this, hofo and other sites, I can't help but think they are all becoming the same... a bunch of people who feel entitled to have this or that NOW and if they don't get it, they gripe up a storm about it, call people names, etc..

Its sad.
[General Topics] sniffs:
Is it really getting that bad? I haven't signed into this site since my old PPC6700 days, so I haven't taken a look at the Entitled Generation posts, but I'll be sure to keep an eye out.
[General Topics] jbh00jh:
AMEN ! NOOBs need to read and research more rather than demanding everything be handed to them.
[General Topics] seanmcd72:
I think this thread is a bit dramatic. "What happened to XDA?" Well, nothing really. There's just a huge influx of new people who know just enough to be dangerous and really want root (and look at the average post count, mine is low enough but every other person I see discussing this has less than 20 posts). The Incredible is one of if not THE hot phone on the market, so I'm not surprised it's like a circus in here. Due to recent events that I will not dare mention, It's like the scene in Caddyshack when they let all the caddys swim in the pool and run all the "members" off. And over the weekend someone took a dump in the pool and caused mayhem/panic... :D

If the mods would get more strict - short temp bans for people who are very rude, and maybe also for people who can't stay on subject or at least delete the off subject posts, and get rid of all the "why is my battery life bad" threads then the Dev section may improve. Perhaps make a rule that says you can't post in this section unless you have a certain number of posts? I don't know. It was just a bad weekend. It will get back to normal.
[General Topics] acidbath5546:
Well put Binny and well put OP.
[General Topics] xcsdm:
Very true, there has been a very large influx of users. And this is a great phone. I'm glad the phone is so hot and popular. I like the phone, and it helps HTC stay in business :-)

Not exactly a bad idea. I like the idea, especially with the advanced nature of development threads. However, I think tougher moderation is a better idea that doesn't limit the ideas of new users.

Unfortunately, I fear that this has become normal. Granted, this weekend was worse than normal. However, I have seen this happen over the last couple of years as more "users" join and run devs off or simply fewer devs get involved. If this forum, community, and environment doesn't change, doesn't understand how to treat others, and more importantly learn, it will continue as is.

XC
[General Topics] worm-:
I think if the moderators banned anyone caught flaming for 24 hr periods at a time, it would cut back on it drastically.
[General Topics] davisbs999:
I think that 99% of people who make errant, off topic posts and/or ask already-answererd questions do so out of ignorance, not because they are trying to be dicks. Sure it gets annoying, but it the vast majority of cases, a brief redirection would suffice. If people re-offend, then perhaps a more stern rebuke is in order. However, it seems that several folks (in my estimation, there's not really that many) in here take a big dump on the community vibe by being inordinately harsh.

A similar loss of perspective is evident in the brutal, condescending treatment of people who brainstorm ideas that have already been tried and people who make mistakes. I am sure that if you are at the top of the dev food-chain, then it is trying to have to tolerate the less knowledgeable. However, it seems reasonable to allow people a bit of room to grow as long as they are in fact growing and not repeating the same mistakes/faux-pas. After all, everyone was noob once, even if it was years ago. Many times I've seen people whose hearts are in the right place treated as if they killed someone's dog.
[General Topics] xcsdm:
Agreed. What I see is a growing trend of, posting in the wrong section (hmm... can I really comment on this? :-) ). Instead of someone simply stating "You may get more assistance in thread X" We get 10 people flaming the poor guy who thought this section made sense.

So... does it really come down the the golden rule? Is it really as simple as treating others like we want? With a little courtesy? Wow.. 80% of our problems would be gone with that alone. And the other 20% come from people learning...

I just wish the the current userbase had the same drive that started xda. A drive to learn as much as they could. That being said, we're not asking everyone to learn it all and become the one that can root all phones, or any phone for that matter. However, I've learned that even while I cannot dive into the system level needed to root, at this time, I have been able to take the knowledge I have and make a few good programs to add, help, or fix features that are missing or incomplete. That's what it is about. Read, learn, and help where you can.

XC
[General Topics] DeeBG:
Divide and Root?

As far as the influx of new users, I don't think that is a problem in itself. However a lot of these new users are obvious "moochers" and didn't even take the time to read up a little bit on Android/WinMo/etc to understand (I have honestly seen multiple posts, esp. in the Android areas, where people's first posts will be "I don't know what root is but I want it for my phone" - no joke!).

Also many of the people causing a problem seem to not regard these (or any other) forms of internet communication as real interactions with many other people (I can tell you right now that a lot of these flames would never be said in front of a room of strangers).

As much as I know XDA is suppose to be able freedom and expression, I really think some lockdowns need to be put in place (temp. bans, more post deletions and maybe an off-limits area for the devs + dev friendly people to post... this may already exist as far as I know as I'm a new member myself). I know some of you would say "this is what IRC is for", but I think a closed off part of the forums would be ideal for swapping useful information that doesn't go anywhere and where ALL are just not welcomed.
[General Topics] Reddog80p:
Alot of the junk being posted can be posted in the general forum and the Devs wouldn't care. Keep the Dev forum for Devs and development only. You see the main Dev thread was even posted as "Dev only" yet hardly anyone respected that. I'm not a new member but not a Dev either so I would not post in that thread period out of respect for the development efforts.
[General Topics] UgXvibe:
I agree here.. I found you guys after I bought my HTC Touch Diamond a year or so ago. I have no idea how to root or understand half the terms discussed here (like WTF is a gold card?! :p ) But I have learned things and had totally personalized my Diamond to make mine unique..

Well, I have the Incredible and it has blown me away. As was mentioned before, there are always forums that get an influx of people because EVERYONE wants this phone. You get the good, the bad and the ugly.. A simple Google search on customizing, hacking, modding, etc.. this phone will guide you here.

Although I'm still an XDA noob I just gotta say that you should have only certain members (aka. devs, admins, mods) post in this section and moderate or allow 'read only' permissions to everyone else.

Bottom line is, I check these forums everyday for the latest info on breaking this damned phone, which I love BTW, and when people post useless banter on the Development thread it stinks.

P.S. I shall not post in here anymore because I have nothing to contribute to rooting.. at least, not yet.

Love you guys and keep up the kick ass work!
[General Topics] Munnin:
Wow...

Well put... definitely better than my Eeyore post earlier this evening ;)

Cheers!
[General Topics] Ed Zachary:
Most of the seasoned developers have been around the block a few times. They realize that wherever they go, whatever they do, there will always be a subculture of crybabies who, lacking the talent or discipline to do actual work, will vehemently attack everything that moves. That is the only semblance of pleasure that the e-peens get. And the only thing they have learned, from other crybabies, that they can do. And they do it with abandon.

And the developers can usually ignore the immature strutting, ego preening, and threatening that is borne of the coward's haven of anonymity and get on with the challenge that feeds their need for accomplishment.
[General Topics] tcberg2010:
Don't understand that at all. I'm no expert, far from it, but when my wife wanted to root her eris. I made her read up on it and do it herself, that way she could at least understand what she was doing to her phone. The most important thing about rooting your phone is understanding what you are doing, and why you are doing it, and have somewhat of an understanding of how you are doing it.
[General Topics] blazingwolf:
I find your comments very odd after reading your comments in other posts. It would be interesting to see what would happen if you followed your own advice.

@OP, I think your right about what is going on here. It's sad that it has come down to this being one more site I don't visit very often for these exact reasons.
[General Topics] 1wayjonny:
+1 agreed

My opinion and I do not care if anyone agrees is that the site gets bomb bared with the "Copy & Paste Kids". They are from the Engadget and Gizmodo blogs that copy and paste stories without reading the forum or articles. The blog sites are part to blame as they have no clue and just copy and paste first even if its the wrong information. This causes panic and is not needed but XDA and its users will not be able to control this.

Then there are users who have never been here before sign up and just destroy the site and community. Its disgusting that people like this sign up just to ruin the whole site. This place was everything you mentioned for sure and then some, but not now.

Facts:

A) It is rude to tell the users to STFU apparently but in my days STFU if you dont know whats going on.

B) Its rude to be a new user and act like you own the site and have no respect for the legacy of XDA.

Its a LOSE-LOSE scenario unfortunately...
[General Topics] mmmk:
+2

This like other sites is going down the crapper!

BTW, Good to see you BW! Are you planning on creating some ROMs for the INC when we get root? Loved ur roms for the OMNIA!!!
[General Topics] rfarrah:
I must respectfully disagree. This site is NOT going down the crapper.

Yes, we've had some issues with disrespectful members and I'm sure the mods will be handling things differently. But XDA is still a respected and worthwhile resource and I think that if we pull together we can continue the excellent work that has been going on here for years.
[General Topics] DeeBG:
*is in it for a long haul* Even though I've only been there a couple times, really late at night (I'm EST/-4 GMT), I really get a kick out of the xda devs channel on freenode (w00t to real-time shenanigans!).
[General Topics] blazingwolf:
I don't see XDA going down the crapper yet. Needs a little more restraint from some of the noobs but it will persevere.

As for me doing ROMs on this phone it is doubtful as I don't have the phone (wife won't let me get one).
[General Topics] makoReactor:
Sheeeeeeeuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup dork

Mod Edit: Please take a good read of the rules as being disrespectful to members is in there, take this as a warning.