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[Desire General] sandervanzijl:
Yes, but then i would be unhappy, because i do want to use the other functions, just not as much as other people are using them.

That is why i want 1 device that does it all. because i do not use it all the time, i do not want to carry around different devices all the time, just in case i need them.

my philosophical view on this battery matter is that if you use an mp3 function so much that it is a substantial drain on your phone, then use a dedicated device, with dedicated battery supply. however i do see the advantages of using just the 1 device. but it still amazes me that people need (with emphasize on need) to be in contact with other people in 5 different ways all the time. (facebook, twitter, phone, texting, pinging etc) while watching movies, reading books etc. etc. there is nothing wrong with it, but it is kind of interesting how technology can create its own need.

and with this i am thoroughly off-topic :-)
[Desire General] davorb:
What apps are you using? I had the same problem while I had touitour installed. After I removed it I'm getting almost three days out of my desire.
[Desire General] davorb:
What's helping you isn't charging the phone while it's turned off, but rebooting it once a day. You probably have an app that's draining your battery, remove it and you won't have to reboot.
[Desire General] davorb:
I use my handset a lot. It took a lot of experimenting with which apps to remove, but now I get excellent battery usage out of my desire.
[Desire General] andycted:
I switched to shadowfrost rom, which is very very dark in framework. This, combined to a dark wallpaper and some other tips made quite some difference and now I really have to put some effort to drain an entire battery in one day. Most of the times I have to recharge in the afternoon of the second day.

Of course, I can always stream audio or video to kill it in less than 6 hours.

For the record, I have friends who upgraded their 3GS to iOS4 and are complaining about an unusable battery life with very little or no usage.
[Desire General] nodq:
With Internet Connection enabled all the time, the Battery of the Desire wont last to long, thats kinda normal. My Desire will last around 24-30 Hours with some Phone Calls 1-2 SMS and Twitter Sync on every 30 Minutes / Facebook App on every 2 Hours and Push Mail with Gmail App.

Try to turn off Internet Connection if you dont use it at all. I enable it only if i really NEED internet connection. Like this my Desire lasts without a Problem like 55-65 Hours.

Dont play with your Phone every 5 Minutes, my Battery didnt last long in the first Days i got my Desire, because i just played every Minute with it, because it was new. :)

Edit: btw. "Android System" with High % usage means you plaing very much with your Phone :) Display on Auto Brightness savess Battery, too.
[Desire General] michalurban:
24 hours ... That would be a MIRACLE!!! I can get about 7 hours, no matter what I do ... Ive been checking all options I could find but no improvement. I say, when I sleep 8 hours and the phone lies somewhere, getting push mail, staying online on gtalk and refreshing weather, it eats about 3-5 percent of the battery ... but when I start to use it, like hour of surfing, the battery gets sucked pretty quickly. Lats time it lasted 7,5 hour with 4 photos uploaded to FB, 15 minutes of surfing and some 50 messages on gtalk. Dang!

Now, I try to make some more full cycles of the battery, I set all sync to the lowest possible options, enabled maximum brightness, display always online, gps bt wifi online, live wallpaper enabled ... and it says Ive got about 4 hours of battery life ... my friends desire can make 8 hours and he was not only doing what I do, but he also played some video file all the time and also downloaded some 2gb ISO. And has twice the battery life. Cr*p!

I still love my Desire much more than my N900, but Nokia can last a whole day with one battery and Ive got another batt for next day ... Now, HTC cant take a whole day even with two batteries (the second one is 1200mah).

Sorry for this messy complaint, but it looks like a warranty repair request is on its way ... :X
[Desire General] Phantom1275:
Here's my usage:

- 40 minutes of phone calls (made/received);

- 90 minutes (1,5 hours) of listening to music over bluetooth, using a bluetooth stereo headset;

- Auto-sync weather every 3 hours;

- Auto-sync email every 3 hours;

- 10-15 minutes of internet browsing;

- Manual sync of my Google account to update agenda and contacts twice a day.

All connections are made using 3G, I'm over a 3G network all day long.

With this daily usage, I got my previous Omnia2 running for about 65 hours! Let's say, almost 3 days long! I even left it on all night long, without worrying with the battery. Each day consumed 30%-35% of battery juice.

With that usage in my Desire, after one day 45% to 50% of battery juice is gone. I have to turn it off at night so I can use it the next day without recharging. It's about 26-28 hours of total usage before I have to charge it. Is this normal, or I have just got spoiled with Omnia2 battery?

My Desire settings:

- I'm not using a live wallpaper;

- 3G network;

- Auto-sync and background data on (otherwise I don't get weather auto-updated);

- Mobile network connected, always (otherwise I don't get auto-sync email and weather);

- Enable always-on mobile data on (otherwise I don't get auto-sync email and weather if the device is in stand by).
[Desire General] michalurban:
For how long do you have your Desire? Ive got mine for 10 days and (as I stated previously) it stays online for about 7 hours ...
[Desire General] Hasty:
I have the latest Stock ROM that was released via OTA Update.

I have set WiFi to sleep after 15 minutes as suggested, but my battery level is only around 5% higher than it normally is. Charged it twice since 11am and the only usage was checking my e-mail twice and writing this post.
[Desire General] Phantom1275:
I've got mine for two weeks... and I still don't know if I'll stay with Android or come back to WM.
[Desire General] cgrec92:
i remember when i had mine new, for the first few weeks the battery life was terrible, about 7 hours

this is because you are playing with the device every couple of minutes, after time you use it when you need it for when you need it, and you also start using the toggle widgets to disable mobile internet and wifi whenever you can

have an uptime of 22 hours and am still at 68% with djdroid rom, about 15 apps, weather sync every 2 hours, gmail push, facebook sync every 2 hours, what more do you need
[Desire General] streetdaddy:
if it makes anyone feel any better I've been running the DJ Droid ROM (Froyo + HTC Sense) and the battery life is at least 2x better... before it I was lucky to get 24 hours, usually 15-20 tops. Now I'm able to get at least 48 hours with medium to heavy usage including a good 20 minutes of talk time, 25-50 texts, wifi on most of the waking hours and listening to music on my way to and from work (about 40 minutes each way)...

So if you can, hang out for the official Froyo update, or flash one of the beta ROM's floating around...
[Desire General] jimlad:
Pffff I lay awake at night dreaming of getting a full days use out of my battery...

I've read some place else a guy bought another battery (the same as we have) and it had twice the life than the one that came with his phone, so you guys that last long just count yourself lucky.

I have to take a charger unless I'm only going shopping.

There is no way I'm messing about chopping the balls off my phone to save a few mins, auto brightness ok but I'm not going to stop using live wallpapers for instance, what's the point in not enjoying the phone.

It's certain there is a difference in batteries anyhow, you don't go from 7 hours to 3 days by making a few tweaks, that's just daft.

My battery has been pants from day one so its nothing to do with strange apps, I do use the phone a lot but, gps for instance is turned off.

No task killing either.
[Desire General] nodq:
Right, i dont use any Task Killer, with Task Killers the Battery will never last that long than without! People should learn that Android handles the Tasks perfectly on its own.

Use the buildin Application/Task Service/App. There you can kill Services which you dont want to run or stopp immediatly. WHy auto task killer? Thats stupid and kills the battery even more. Its Contra Productive!
[Desire General] michalurban:
While you can be right generally, this "playing" thing is not my case. I got my phone on the previous friday, spent a lot of time playing with it, but during the week, Im working and dont much time to play this toy. So, I only read new sms, new mail, reply sometimes and a bit of checking fb during pauses, sometimes. Ive been having it for 10 days now and still cannot get over 7,5 hours.
[Desire General] ArtieQ:
Well, I had 100% charge when I went to town at 6 am and I came home at like 2 pm and still ahd 82% charge. That being said, I used some internet, email sms and phone.
[Desire General] aidanbree:
I think the issue is all down to bad apps. I previously had my battery draining in about 6 hours. It turned out to be the Sky News app. I just removed it and then got over 16 hours (pretty high use).

My battery life has been back down at the 6 hours mark again recently and I think I have pinned it down to 3 apps.

Hullo voicemail showed in the phone diags as keeping the phone awake. I have therefore removed it.

Better alarm clock is consuming cpu of up to ten percent an hour after alarm. Not sure what to do as I like this app.

My Lookout backup although scheduled for 4am was running at 7am. This doesn't seem very efficient.I will open a ticket with them.

I think we need to get a bad app thread or wiki where people can submit apps that they think cause issues and then others can verify or rebuff
[Desire General] jaymit:
Battery Life

Just a note, I know its probably been mentioned, but make sure you check whats using up the battery (e.g. locale and some games drain it and stay on even after closed). Also check with HTC there may be a fault and also try recondition the battery by charging fully from a completely drain and then charging regularly between 40% and 80%.

Ive had a couple of issues with the battery draining in under a day but that was because newsrob was downloading 500+ full page news articles a day and locale was killing the battery.

Currently sending + receiving 100+ texts either way, same for emails and making maybe half an hours worth of calls a day. Facebook, HTC Facebook, Twitter set to update every hour. Newsrob updates every other our. 5 home screens full of apps and widgets. Permanently connecting to google talk, making about an hour or so worth of messaging a day. Battery is fully charged when I leave home at 8am, it is at about 50% at about 7/8pm in the evening. It drains a lot if I am messaging on google talk for longer or if I play a game for about half an hour. In that case I just use the kensington external battery while on the train or in a meeting, it adds about 20-30% over an hour-2hours.

Ah also emails are probably closer to 150 - I basically get texts uploaded to gmail via smsbackup and have 7 days of emails labelled SMS downloaded. Also the odd note on springpad, maybe 15ish minutes worth of music (with last.fm scrobbling at the same time) and the odd webpage (nothing much really maybe 5mins or so) and thats about it. Usually battery life on a busy day drops by an additional 10%ish (so to 40%) by the time I make it back home.

Please let me know if anyone has any major issues with battery life Id be happy to help :)
[Desire General] michalurban:
Well, Ive never liked WM, so theres android or maemo for me ... symbian is good, but I dont think Im gonna return ... You see, I still have my N900 in a drawer, but I like my android so much more ... *dang*
[Desire General] aindow:
36 hours 33 mins since being unplugged and still 41% remaining now. Same scenario as my previous post in this topic. :)
[Desire General] michalurban:
I envy you a lot!!! :)
[Desire General] Daelyn:
4 days with little use, 2 days with a little more abuse.
[Desire General] aindow:
Well as the previous post said, I use airplane mode about 6 hours a day whilst I sleep so I guess It's not that great either. Lol
[Desire General] michalurban:
Well, I have a cradle charger for my two batteries and I put them in the cradle when I go to sleep (say 2200-0000 hours) and pick it up when I get up (usually 8 oclock) ...

My primary battery (the one that could last 7-8 hours) is always the one I begin my day with. The second one could last for about 5 hours and I put it into the device around 1600 oclock, after my Desire turns off because of the lack of power. So, the battery I got with the phone is always having its cycle ... and the second one too, mostly ...

So, no need for airplane mode for me! :)

EDIT: Lets hope Froyo is coming soon and bringing help!!! :X
[Desire General] jimlad:
I know, I said I don't use a task killer... :-P
[Desire General] michalurban:
Battery drain not caused by third-party apps

Ok ... Formatted SDcard, hard reset, no application installed, static background, no widgets on the desktop except for clock, set to low frequency of sync or no update.

RESUME: After four hours (3 SMS, 2 calls for about three minutes each, few messages on GTalk) I had the battery on 92 percent. OK. Another half and hour way home, 89 percent, OK. 15 minutes surfing via EDGE and the preinstalled browser, 15 percent of the battery GONE. NOT OK ... :-/ What a mess is this?

Still waiting from my replacement battery, but looks like Im going for a warranty request ... :-(
[Desire General] th3:
I had to play Inspector Gadget with my phone today, after weeks... battery was draining very fast compared to my norm. 40% gone in 6.8 hours! Of course, I surfed XDA and eBay through their apps for about 40 mins cumulatively, and the net through Chrome for about 50 mins... watched 4-5 short YouTube vids and a 20 min movie clip on the SD card, 6 app updates, 7-8 SMS in/out, 4 emails in, sync'd everything, 36 RSS feeds updated once, but still.

Then I find out that WiFi was running the full 6.8 hours, 100%, and the phone too - screen went off for 54 mins but otherwise, everything kept running. Ebuddy had been running and polling for messages all that period. I have a lot of constantly updating/polling widgets. So my disappointment turned into happiness. Ahh! Not bad, not bad at all :)

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- Sent via my HTC Desire -
[Desire General] kmetek:
I can tell battery really sux, I use phone so little, make 4-5 calls tops a day for 1-2 minutes tops......use navigation a little etc, and never holds for 2 full days.
[Desire General] twe69:
Thats the same with all smartphones though? Even the IPhones....
[Desire General] Imperium:
If i surf some newssites with my screen brightness at 50% my battery drops as fast as 6% in 11 minutes.. that can't be right can it? I'm using WiFi, which should be better for batt life than 3g right?
[Desire General] jauhari:
There are so many question regarding htc desire battery life.

My best tips is bring extra portable battery

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire General] andycted:
Besides the many threads you can find about battery life here and everywhere else, do remember that the % reported isn't accurate. The only test about battery life with a meaning is from full to automatic off. So if you see a drop of 10% in 2 hours or in 20 minutes, that's meaningless. That's also why they won't report it on the status bar.

My battery takes about 1.5 days of heavy use to empty. Never checked the %.

Why can't anyone make a sticky with battery issues ?
[Desire General] michalurban:
Well, Ive got extra battery, can make 12 hours with both! :)))
[Desire General] michalurban:
Im not sure what "make a sticky with battery issues" means (never heard that phrase).

Anyway, when I dont use my phone (night), it loses few percent in many hours. But when I start to use it (usually gtalk and internet via opera mobile or internal browser), I lose about a percent or more a minute ... so, surfing lets say 2 hours and Im done.
[Desire General] yozhek:
My experience of 6 days of owning one has been that in the first 3 days I charged it 3 times after the initial 3 hr charge and yes I did play with it but I did experiment in disabling the 'Internet', Google Sync, Wifi settings. The original rom was 1.16 (Telstra) so after thinking I had a dud and speaking to CS, I took the plunge and installed a 1.21 generic rom and the result has been an immediate improvement in standby time. 2.5 days (60 hrs) with 7 hours of various use as shown on the battery meter is a big improvement. Must have been something in the original rom settings that sucked the juice in mine.
[Desire General] michalurban:
What do you call a "generic rom" and where I can get it? Im not willing to root my phone yet, but maybe Ill be "forced" to. But now, I guess if my new battery ordered from UK fails to improve my battery life, Ill try a warranty repair ...
[Desire General] st0kes:
My battery lasts for 1.5 days at most. I'm a heavy user and spend about an hour a day on trains either surfing the web or playing robo defence.
[Desire General] mw0cqu:
theres always the "Phat boy" battery?

Hi all,

I got to page 6 of this thread and there was no mention ...

I couldn't be bothered to scroll through the next 10 pages

so I went straight to page 16 and there was still no mention

so if I'm repeating someone else's post I apologise in advance....

Why not buy the fat Cameron Sino battery (about 2.4 AH)

with the replacement back case from the bay ?

e.g. item 170509816999

I have one here - ordered it on monday , came in the post on wednesday

OK it doubles the thickness of the phone, but it still feels slimmer than my old

HTC raphael and the additional weight seems fine in my shirt pocket (ok my shirt is a 3XL!!)

the back case is a damned sight better quality than the "phat batt" one I had on my old tytn / Kaiser. doesnt look out of place at all & slightly rubberised feel to it

food for thought ?

Regards

BB
[Desire General] bob dylan:
I used to get 18 hours out of my battery- stock htc t mobile uk rom. Recently I did a hard reset, re-installed all my applications using astro and deleted my task killer, I then installed the system app instead. I have my facebook, weather, picassa albums, and gmail apps (mail, contacts, calendar etc) updating every hour. I use the web about 2 hours a day, do lots of emails and texts. I use juice defender ultimate to look after my apn settings. I now get over 38 hours out of a single charge.
[Desire General] yozhek:
There are references to it in Desire Development section. The generic roms are referenced as 'WWE' and no you do not have to root it but you may need a 'gold card' (SD card). Have a search and read before attempting.
[Desire General] code72:
Can you post some photo of your "fat" Desire?
[Desire General] cq.dude:
I envy people who get more than a days use out of a single charge! If I get a full working day out of it I'll be lucky. I mean, not down to 0% cuz that's a no no. But down to about 30% at the end of the day.
[Desire General] michalurban:
BB? Youre Big Brother? Oh, damn ... :X :)
[Desire General] kekkle:
My battery used to also be amazing. Could last easily 2 to 3 days. Now I gotta charge 2 to 3 times a day. And I got nothing new installed. Might try that hard reset thing.

What is lost if I do that ?
[Desire General] michalurban:
Well, the files on the SD card will remain, and if you use a google (gmail, google apps) email account, you have your contacts and calendar items synchronized, so you wont lose them.

What you will lose are your settings and the apps installed ... I heard that with AppBrain app, you could be capable of storing the list of your installed apps and simply reinstalling them all in one, but didnt tried that ...

Somebody knows about something else to be lost?
[Desire General] A|ex:
I really dont understand why people are saying the battery is bad as i am a heavy user and get 2+ days out of the phone on a full charge. You will get the same thing on other smartphones too. If you want a good battery standby life you need to either get a larger battery, turn your phone off when your not using it or go to a basic phone without any of the fancy features.
[Desire General] kekkle:
That is what I mean. I used to be able to do this. But now it's not possible anymore.

As a comparing: I charged my phone this moring at 12:00 as I was going to work. It couldn't charge full, but according to the Sense lockscreen, it was on 77%

Now I'm charging it again (22:00) and the Sense lockscreen shows it's a 32%. That's 45% in 10 hours without any actual usage!

I've not called or send a message all day. Haven't been on the web or anything. At work I didn't even touch it except for checking if I got missed SMS or calls.

At home it's just been laying on the table all night.

EDIT2:

Well, I've just hard resetted. Let's see how this works out.

Just hard resetted. Most things stayed, thanks to Sense that backups most of your stuff by default. Also, I've noticed my phone no longer laggs when I finish downloading or installing something from the Market.
[Desire General] andycted:
besides the fact that you could have some bad application that generally gets stuck and drains the battery, the % thing isn't accurate and the only way to judge a battery life is from full to phone-off, which according to documentation shouldn't be something to do, but according to other sources, modern li ion batteries have a safety-off level which prevents damage to them.

Anyway, I too get at least a day of very heavy use or about a day and half of medium/heavy use. If you get less without much use there must be something that doesn't work correctly. The comment above relating to task killers is true, you really don't want to use them, at least on automatic.

I could see a marked improvement in battery with shadowfrost rom or generally using dark stuff, setcpu with some profiles, no live wallpapers, etc

At the end of the day, with similar usage patterns, my friends with iphones had to recharge at least once, while I still have more than enough battery.
[Desire General] spen2:
Not sure if anyone has already mentioned it as it's probably obvious, but simply changing the screen timeout from 1 minute down to 30 seconds made a noticable improvement to my battery life.
[Desire General] kekkle:
Okay, let me compare yesterday to today:

Yesterday, Pre-Hard Reset:

At 12:00 it was 77%

At 22:00 it was 32%

Usage:

- Turning on to lockscreen occasionally to check missed SMS/Calls.

- Check for new posts on XDA in my 15min break.

Today, Post-Hard Reset:

At 00:00 it was 98%

At 12:00 it has lost 3 bars, so it's between 70% and 65%.

Usage:

- Half hour just plainly setting up my phone again. (Apps & settings)

- Half hour of music while chatting on eBuddy.

- 1 hour of eBuddy without music on.

- Atleast 2 hours browsing the internet

All in all, MAJOR improvement.
[Desire General] michalurban:
You may get 2+ days. I used to get 6-7 HOURS without heavy use. And thats exactly why I used to say IT SUCKED.

Now, with new battery (from UK, Im from CZE), Im getting over a day with light use ... thats fine by me, the battery is not yet "formatted". Also, Im getting another battery as a backup - I bought this charging cradle for both the phone and a replacement battery, cause I ordered one with the cradle, but unfortunately its Cameron Sino and it SUCKS HARD!

Anyway, with two quality 1400mAh batteries, Im completely satisfied with the phone ... :)
[Desire General] Xinot:
Lost 13% in 30min playing Vampires over hsdpa... That just is not good at all. Maybe in some heavy 3D game, but... Only way i can get my desire live from this morning to next morning/day is to disable everything i can and leave it to sleep. I already have tried multiple roms and radios etc. Funny is that Juiceplotter says with every rom and compination i have tried something like 8h left with battery 100%. With my gf Legend Jb says something like 28hours left with 100% battery. Weird...