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[myTouch 3G, Magic General] underto:
I'm so confused. Because I've got a 32B I'm having a hard time finding good information on how to flash just the radio. Every post starts with the radio and ends up only talking about SPL. I've got SPL 1.33.2005 so I should be good, but I need to try to do something about my malfunctioning radio. Is the Android SDK required to flash a radio.img? My RA-sapphire-v1.5.2G supports flashing from zips. Sorry to come off as a newb. My experience with Android rooting and roming has been its easy to get into, but maintaining if you blink for a couple of months is difficult. If I can just get my radio working again I'll leave it alone.

Thanks for any help anything can throw my way.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] underto:
Forget it. SDK, flash radio, got it.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] VNPrince:
How did you get 3G speeds on non- AWS network like Telus? Because Tmobile MyTouch only works on AWS- Frequency.

**EDIT**

After reading another post of yours I think you have the rogers version, because of your 32b board. But just for a heads up if its branded "T-Mobile" then that means 3G speeds will only work with Wind Wireless or Mobilicity.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] tertiumsquid:
The Rogers one is 32A. Just checked mine. All the T-mo MT3G's are supposed to be 32B iirc...
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] JorisS:
Hi all,

spent entire last night trying to figure out how to flash a custom ROM into my phone - problem initially was that I'd updated it with the ROM from the HTC site, so it was in perfectSPL.

Anyway, after a lot of searching and attempting I managed to get in an engineer SPL and then attempted to flash with the Cyanogen Mod 5.0.7. It kept on giving me an error which I figured was due to my Radio being the newer one, so I went through these instructions to flash an older one, using the following code:

But in my case I used Radio_HTC_PVT_32A_3.22.20.17.img so as to get the Cyanogen Mod to (hopefully) work, and I used the recovery-RA-hero-v1.6.2.img as that was the one I'd used to get the engineer SPL installed as well. I did use the suggested hboot-1.76.2007.img, but probably made a mistake in doing so? Reading further down the page for changing RADIO it describes how to downgrade to radio 3.22 and it says I should use hboot-1.33.2010.img instead....

After the last command, however, it went into reboot but since then I'm stuck with this screen regardless of how I boot (recovery/fastboot/regular) - see attached image.

(I did enter the command literally as above, no space between reboot and -bootloader - that of any concern?)

My problem seems to differ from the others I've read about when searching for "bricked" - I'm perfectly willing to accept my fate if it really is bricked, but as of yet I'm not quite convinced. For one, if I run the HTC official updater it starts and actions are displayed in the HTC screen, but unfortunately it always stops at 36% when sending Radio... so fairly sure it's something wrong with it.

Question is: is there any way to re-flash another (proper) Radio and see if I can get anywhere from there?

Would appreciate any suggestions :)

Cheers

//Joris
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] alan090:
maybe if you read the proper directions - even my thread has links to them then u would be fine

you need the 2010 spl for that radio and u have a 1.76.2007 spl u used ...

I suggest u look up cursordroids directions
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] JorisS:
As a follow-up, please see attached image - this is what I get when I try to use the fastboot commands to either flash radio or hboot :confused:
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] alan090:
do u have v 2007? or a perfect spl installed - I think its perfect...
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] mariosraptor:
i do not know if this helps. but if you managed to flash the older radio, then try to flash an original rom for your board which includes old radio and post any results.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] JorisS:
Thanks for the quick reply - I realize I messed up, was getting later and later so lost focus I'm afraid. Plus been reading so many different instructions and suggestions that I simply lost track and - in this case - failed to read further down the page. (I am indeed on his page, the one you link to on yours)

However, question right now is whether or not the phone can be saved? See my above post - it won't flash in another radio or SPL at the moment, at least not using fastboot command from the cmd prompt. Any alternative suggestions or other commands I can/should run first?

Cheers

//Joris
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] JorisS:
I tried using the official HTC ROM (that comes as an .exe package) - tested with the last official one I get when I download it from their site, as well as the one before which I got from this sites ROM collection - both get stuck at 36% when "sending Radio" I believe it says at that point. I did try this one as well: 2.17.401.2 HTC Nordic - from what I could see this is the oldest Nordic HTC ROM - that one however gave me another error message, something about wrong Board or so I believe.

Which one would you suggest I try? At this point these .exe packages seem to "work", at least they start and identify the phone and all.

I'm afraid that at this point I really do not know anymore :(

I followed these steps to get past the 1.76.0009:

After this I proceeded with the following:

(I have now edited in the exact files I used)

After this I ended up in the position I'm in now - it did a reboot but nowo I'm only getting into the screen as shown in the first attachment.

On a sidenote, how can I get my account verified so I do not have to wait 5 mins between posts? :rolleyes:
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] JorisS:
I just tried the following ROM update:

RUU_Sapphire_HTC_Europe_2.17.401.2_HTC_Nordic_release_signed_NoDriver.exe

Result is as per attached image.

Seems I've managed to mix up everything and managed to have incompatible radio/hboot and probably also SPL....

Is there any way to fix this :(
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] alan090:
what version of spl does your fastboot report?

if you have 2007 u should be able to fastboot images

if you have perfect spl u may have to root again using gold card...
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] JorisS:
How do I check this? Was testing around some more whilst hoping for a reply here and found that I cannot find the device using the adb devices command, but the phone appears to be in fastboot mode as I can detect it with "fastboot devices". That said and as the attached image in post #3 shows, I can't seem to flash images - giving me an error message.

So basically on the phone it displays what's shown in the attached picture (if I plug in the USB cable then "USB" shows up behind the orange RUU text). Regardless of whether I try to start it with home + power, back + power or just power. It comes to the same screen.

Will start reading into gold card and what that is/how to make one - saw the term passing by here and there already.

Thanks so far, much appreciated!
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] JorisS:
It seems I've ended up in one of these loops one cannot get out of - checked out how to make a goldcard (theunlockr.com/2010/03/10/how-to-create-a-goldcard/ and some other sites) and basically I need to be able to use ADB in order to get the CID of the card. Problem is that I can only access fastboot, not ADB.

Guess it's game over then? :(

Would it be possible in any other way to root/flash the phone using fastboot only?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] JorisS:
Just attempted to use the fastboot to flash sappimg.zip, giving me the following:

Does this give away any useful information towards a possible rescue? :confused:
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] jejer:
try goldcard
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] JorisS:
I did - followed a guide and used an ubuntu bootcd to get the CID off the SD card and successfully made the goldcard. But don't know what to do with it really, since the phone goes straight to the same RUU screen even if I try the 'vol down' + 'power' button boot.

That's why I tried using fastboot to flash the sappimg.zip, goldcard was inserted into the phone at this point. Result is as shown above :( I think I need a newer version of the sappimg.zip file - any such thing available?

//J
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] 3rdcoast:
If you can get to fastboot than an RUU install + goldcard can work. From there you can re-root and start fresh. Just pick an RUU suitable for you phone and is rootable afterward.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] JorisS:
I think the problem is with my radio version - either it being from an older ROM or somehow it was corrupted.

But just to be sure - how should I do the RUU install + goldcard? Simply insert the goldcard (completely empty otherwise?) and run the latest RUU I have downloaded from HTC using my serial number?

How does the goldcard differ from a regular memory card when performing an RUU install? Isn't the part that messed up in the phones memory? :(

Thanks

//Joris
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] 3rdcoast:
yes, just do the RUU exe install. The goldcard is just an SD with a modified header that allows the RUU to ignore any issues with reporting a model id error. You may not even need a goldcard depending on the RUU and what the phone reports. Nothing else special about the goldcard, you can fill it like any other or format later. I left mine alone and used it like normal.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] JorisS:
I've tested this with the following RUU versions (and the goldcard inserted):

* RUU_Sapphire_HTC_Europe_2.17.401.2_HTC_Nordic_release_signed_NoDriver.exe

* RUU_Sapphire_HTC_Europe_2.20.401.2_HTC_Nordic_release_signed_NoDriver.exe

Both these give a bootloader version error. Tried these two:

* RUU_Sapphire_HTC_Europe_3.05.401.1_test_signed_NoDriver.exe

* RUU_Sapphire_HTC_Europe_3.05.401.3_release_signed_NoDriver.exe

With those the installation freezes at 36%. I've attached the RUU report file, in case that is of any help?

I could in principle carry on and try every single RUU that's available, but getting increasingly doubtfull that any will work. It simply seems as though either it's a wrong version or something goes wrong when it tries to update the radio, but I don't know why (I mean - it's overwriting whatever's on the phone, isn't it? Why would it freeze? I successfully used the same RUU before I started messing about with rooting and all that to update the phone to latest firmware).

Gah! :(

*edit*

forgot the file

Also, when it comes to 36%, the screen on the Magic goes black and the LED at the top turns blue...
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] Herman76:
Maybe try downloading the latest offical RUU from the HTC website, and then try to root it after?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] JorisS:
Thanks but I've tried that.... stuck on 36%, "Updating Radio".

I managed to create a complete mismatch it would seem, i.e. the hboot and the radio and the actual main version (it is, according to the RUU updater, on 3.05.401.3 version), so whenever something works, something else doesn't - etc etc. Crap!
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] attn1:
There is no way to fix this without a working goldcard. If you can't flash the RUU successfully, you don't have a working gold card. Do you have another android phone available that you can use for goldcard creation? I've failed miserably - until I started editing the card with the card in the phone and mounted on the PC. You need a working Android phone to do this.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] JorisS:
Not at the moment, but I thought I created the goldcard correctly - used this guide (xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=656798) to retrieve the SD card CID using Ubuntu disk.

Is this method simply wrong? Or would another Android device basically give the same result? I.e. how would another Android device help me create a goldcard?

Btw the card in question is a Kingston and after following the guide it was readable in Windows. Any other means of checking if it truly is a successful goldcard?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] attn1:
Readable in Windows doesn't mean much. Mine were too, and they didn't work. Once I wrote the image to the sdcard while it was mounted in the phone, the exact same procedure worked. Basically, not all USB MicroSD readers work. The one in the phone is more reliable.

Crap - nevermind - I just reread that thread and it clearly states that you need to enable mass storage on the device - meaning Android has to be working.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] JorisS:
Thanks a bunch, hadn't found that link yet. Will give it a try.

This was the result just now (see attached image), by the way, attempting the goldcard creation one more time and with the instructions here: hxxp://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=572683

So I guess I do not have a working goldcard, since such messages shouldn't show when I do, if I understand things correctly?

//J

*edit*

lol yeah just realized the same thing...

Unfortunately I don't know of anybody who has an Android phone - and willing to let me borrow it with the purpose in mind ;)

I'm considering getting an HTC Desire (love that phone anyway!) so I'll have a phone again, then maybe I can give the reviving of this Magic another shot...
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] attn1:
That's my guess - you do not have a working gold card.

You have no friends with a working Android that you can use for 1/2 hour to make a gold card?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] JorisS:
None that pop to mind - is there any risk involved or will the only risk be messing up my memory card using, for example, the program you linked to in your previous posts? I mean I will not need to do any flashing or the likes with the other phone, right?

My gf does have a HTC Touch Pro 2 and a SE W995 - either of these any good?

//J
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] attn1:
yeah, a gold card created with a new Desire would no doubt get your magic all patched up - but you only need a gold card - the problem is probably the USB reader. Can anyone following this provide some information about a USB reader they've used to successfully create a goldcard? Preferably something readily available to Joris?

Joris, what's your location?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] attn1:
Maybe... if you can mount the sd card from the phone and use the hex editor on the PC to write the image, it may work.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] attn1:
moderator(s)

- just noticed this thread is in the wrong area - please move to where it is most appropriate.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] JorisS:
I also noticed it was posted in the wrong place - made a summary post in the proper place but there aren't any reactions there - would prefer this one be moved and the other one removed :)

Anyway:

I'm in Sweden :)

I'm not trying to argue here, just trying to make sense of things - how would the USB reader be the possible culprit? I used the Ubunta boot CD and instructions provided in the topic I mentioned to retrieve SD Card CID - could this be faulty info? I did check with another SD card to see if CID would change, which it did....

Could try on either one of two or three other pc's here as well, but the criteria in the instructions was rather that some readers do not read the CID at all (this was done on a fairly new Vaio laptop, by the way, internal card reader).

//Joris
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] attn1:
Evidently some also do not write the boot image properly. I had that experience. I used the same img file to successfully make a gold card when the card was mounted from the phone when it failed using the exact same procedure on 3 of my USB readers. I am not the only one who has solved it this way. If you can export the sd card from another phone so you can mount it in windows, try that.

From the screenshot in your first post, it does not appear that you have an engineering spl flashed. This is why you can't flash anything now. If this can be corrected, it must be with a working goldcard. If you have a European Magic, you may not have needed a gold card initially, but you aren't going to fix this without one now.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] JorisS:
Just tested with the gf's HTC Touch pro 2 - worked with the goldcardtool but it's still giving me the same error when trying the RUU update to downgrade. That said I used the goldcard.img that I created with the CID retrieved from the Ubuntu method - the tool doesn't work for retrieving from the TP2 since it's a windows mobile device I guess.

Any other means of retrieving SD card CID on WM phone, if that might be useful?

You're probably right about the engineering SPL, was reading and doing so much that it seems I've a mixture of things on the phone at the moment. If only I could complete wipe the ROM and re-write it completely :(
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] attn1:
If you press and hold the back button on the phone and then press the power button, are you getting to fastboot on the phone? I just looked again at your dos screen dump, and fastboot is failing to load correctly using the fastboot boot command.

If you can get the phone into fastboot, then skip the fastboot boot command and try flashing the correct radio.

Also, which RUU are you trying to use to downgrade? Try RUU_Sapphire_HTC_Europe_3.05.401.1_test_signed_NoDriver.exe ?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] JorisS:
No I always come into the same screen regardless of whether I try to simply power on the phone, or if I'm pressing back + power, or home + power, or volume down + power... I always end up with this same screen dump.

What i've noticed is that the HBOOT changes after different RUU roms - just tested with the 3.05.401.1 ROM and that leaves me with HBOOT-1.76.0008 - if I used the latest 3.05.401.3 then I get HBOOT-1.76.0009.

There's no way to get Engineer SPL installed as is I reckon?

Also starting to doubt a working goldcard will really solve this... I think I managed to make a fairly unique mess of my phone :rolleyes:

So just in case you didn't read what I wrote somewhere in the beginning, here's what caused the mess:

After this I proceeded with the following:

The problem here being that I should've had another hboot with that version of radio - or so I found out later :(

After the reboot-bootloader command the phone went into boot loop with HTC screen - at that point I am afraid I do not quite remember what I did do. But if memory serves me right I actually tried to revert using the RUU Rom update, probably the latest one. That one probably wrote a new hboot again (1-76.0009) making things even worse, for at some point shortly after that I ended up with the situation I currently have - no boot loop or anything, everything puts the phone in the same mode.

*Gah*
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] attn1:
if you can get to RUU screen again, try flashing RUU_Sapphire_HTC_Europe_3.05.401.1_test_signed_NoDriver.exe with goldcard.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] JorisS:
It's the same problem - starts to flash, I actually just watched the progress on the phone rather than the laptop for the first time - it's doing the hboot and something prior to that I think (recovery? something else?) then it comes to the radio - goes for a bit then screen goes black (in a weird fashion) and that's it - stuck at 36%.

*edit*

Attached the report file

Also I was simply running the RUU file from the laptop, that's the idea right?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] attn1:
Okay, you got me- I am stumped if that gold card is good.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] mariosraptor:
found this. maybe you should give it a try.

http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f606/htc-magic-bricked-977854/

also try to flash this if it lets you due to old radio flashing. for what it matters i don't think gold card will help. good luck!!!
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] attn1:
Try this first:

this is more of a shot in the dark if above fails: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=530492
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] JorisS:
Thanks guys, will give those a try tomorrow :)

@attn1: I really can't be sure if the goldcard is good or no I'm afraid. For some reason everything simply locks up completely during the flashing of the radio, no idea why :confused:
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] JorisS:
How can I flash that one? I can't access the recovery, all I have available is the fastboot?

While at work today I've tested pretty much all RUU's on the site - either I get bootloader version error 140 or I get model ID error 130, or it actually flashes but then it always get's stuck at 36% while updating Radio.

Am I to conclude that the BIOS/rom on the phone where the radio is stored is somehow corrupted? Or is the fact that I have a Radio in the phone that doesn't match the hboot the big issue?

Is there any way for me to get engineering SPL in using fastboot only? Or is there any RUU-like installation package that starts by turning S-ON to S-OFF - and would that make any difference?

I've just ordered a HTC Desire which will hopefully show up tomorrow - could try again to make a goldcard using that one. Any other options that will be available to me once I have the Desire at my disposal?

//Joris
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] JorisS:
WOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOO!!! :D:D:D

Thanks to Amon RA I've made major progress here, in fact I think my problem is solved - just one or two steps remaining, but to avoid making a mess of things again I'm asking here.

Here's what got my main issue solved: Amon RA mentioned the log file for the RUU update, I've previously attached one or two of these in my posts in this topic and looked into them, but at that point hadn't a clue about fastboot and all so didn't make much of it. Now I had a thorough read and what I found most interesting was the fastboot commands used whilst running the RUU update process, and how it apparently extracts the rom in a zip file from the RUU.exe, then uses it. What I did was copy the rom1.zip file from the temp folder whilst the update was in progress and the files still there (they're removed when the RUU updater is exited!) - then I did a manual fastboot -s HTxxxxxx flash zip rom1.zip, AND IT WORKED! Flashed all the way through without complaints or getting stuck on Radio!

Only problem now is I get the HTC Magic logo which then goes into a loop... but that should be solvable - now before I mess things up again, which procedure should I follow now? Do I perhaps still have a corrupt Radio or something?

Considering all the time and effort spent what I would want now is to simply get the phone in "original" state, flashed with the latest official HTC update. But I'm not sure if I dare flash it with the RUU from the HTC site right away.... perhaps should do something else first?

Man this is great, the more so because of all the endless hours I've spent on this :D

Please guide me home guys :)

*edit*

Currently this is what's showing in Fastboot/Hboot:

*edit2*

I currently have ROM 3.05.401.1 installed, by the way...

Cheers

//Joris
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] eyegor:
You're stuck in boot loop because you need the 6.35 radio with that SPL, or a 1.33.xx.xx spl with your current radio.

The ruu also extracts rom.zip which contains both the radio and spl, perhaps you could flash it just as you flashed rom1.zip
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] JorisS:
Hrm the problem is that when I try to flash the rom.zip in a similar fashion, it is now refusing;

fastboot -s HTxxxxxx flash zip rom.zip

sending 'zip' (11094 KB)... FAILED (remote: not allow)

finished. total time: 0.003s

dang :S

In fact it is always while flashing the radio that things go wrong... I guess I simply jumped past that point by using the rom1.zip instead. Now I have a fastboot and I can get into the vol down + power boot.

But unable to use the fastboot command now, can I change the HBOOT in some fashion?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] eyegor:
If you can go into vol down+power you can flash any SAPPIMG.ZIP or SAPPIMG.NBH (provided you have a working goldcard or you can flash one that accepts your phones CID)!

Just put it on your SDCard and boot into V.D+pwr!