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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] boufa:
If you read all of the info, and read AT&T's announcment it says that even at RENEWAL AND UPGRADE old users will be able to keep the unlimited. Also if you look at your account online, it will give you a chart for all of your internet usage since November 2009. You can see how much you use. Many will decide that unlimited is a waste and will "downgrade" to the 2 GB plan and save $5. Heck my wife loves the smart phone, but rarely uses any of the data features except a few emails... now she can get the $15 plan and save quite a bit each month.

Look at your usage, I would bet that you use much, much less than you think you do.

They also have a usage estimator. It is extremely difficult to hit 2 GB unless you a) stream (lots) of music or b) stream video. Normal net surfing and the occasional app download and tons of email fit very comfortably under the cap.

For me, I will be keeping my unlimited plan, but the wifes phone is definitely getting downgraded to the cheaper plan. Thank you AT&T.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] shaolin95:
I stream video A LOT....going to work and coming back home I am normally watching some youtube old comedies like Unhappily ever after , etc so I may not be going with their lower rate plan. ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] McHale:
which is a bull**** answer because if that were the case, they'd keep the unlimited option and add these to their portfolio.

It has been confirmed that you can keep your unlimited plan but that's until you upgrade your phone or your minute plan. This has always been the case.

F'n greedy ignorant bastards.

-Mc
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] vovillamor:
I just renewed my family's 2-year contracts with unlimited data on 3 devices.

From the quote above, after my two year contacts expire, I can do an equipment upgrade and still keep my unlimited data plans. Is that correct?

By the time my 2-year contracts expires, I'm sure there will be alot of changes and other options to consider. Other carriers may be offering iPhones by then (for my wife and son), and I really don't like the direction that Windows Moble is going right now.

For me, a different carrier and a different device may be in order at the end of my current contract.

I thought about this a well. I checked my family's data usage.

My son uses a over a gigabyte of data a month on his iPhone.

I come in at just under a gigabyte on my Tilt2, but only because I'm more diligent about using WiFi or other data connections instead of 3G whenever possible.

My wife, on the other hand, averages about 150 to 200Kilobytes per month on her iPhone... which is the threshold for the new basic data plan.

So, will I be switch her to the cheaper plan? Probably not, considering that she has only had her iPhone for a couple of months. Chances are her data usage will only grow as she discovers better and more efficient ways to use her phone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] stevedebi:
No, they are doing it because they don't have enough network capacity for all the smartphones they have sold. They are trying to keep people from using the bandwidth by making it expensive.

AT&T has been in a lot of hot water because their service has suffered due to their being the only network that offers the IPhone. From what I read, San Francisco and New York are having major problems with bandwidth.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sandycapes:
Verizon started charging 9.95 a month for each smart phone. for a limited amount of data. They only have 4 phones that don't get charged that. We switched from Verizon because it would have cost me an extra 30 a month for my 3 kids who dont even go on the internet to have a decent phone to text. Maybe they are all going this route
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] McHale:
if they're trying to save bandwidth, then maybe forcing data plans on people wasn't such a smart idea.

Those idiots can't have it both ways as hard as they lie... I mean TRY.

F'n AT&T morons.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dressanderc:
I don't believe that McHale likes AT&T that much :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] urkrnboy90:
Does this mean I can get out of my 2yr contract w/o any ETF?!

I feel like I could argue with AT&T to get out of it w/o any fees...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] undefined:
I think this is stupid because why should there be a cap on the data traffic, and plus I the Wi-Fi router app alot. Part of the reason I switched to AT&T is because I know that the HSUPA is supported pretty well... but we'll see...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DJGonzo:
Let me know if you pull it off cuz Ill do it too. End contract, switch to sprint, save 100's /yr :D

Or sign up with AT&T again and get new phones to sell on eBay.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DaveTheTytnIIGuy:
It may sound bad, but in reality, the "unlimited" data plans that are currently available aren't even unlimited. I have had friends who've gone over the ~5GB cap and landed in hot water with AT&T plenty of times. No carrier I know of offers a truly, completely unlimited data plan (as in you could download 100GB a month no problems). They're more or less making cheaper, tiered data plans to likely encourage customers to get smartphones who were turned off by the $30 and $40 monthly data packages. While I do hate AT&T with a burning passion, I don't think this is one of the worst things they've ever done. The Motorola Backflip, now that was a crime against consumers
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DJGonzo:
I know but 5GB is not 2GB. I have tethered in almost life-death situations and I have racked 2GB's. Matter of fact with just push email 24/7 I do close to 1GB alone. Plus on top of that I always download songs when Im bored. Sometimes even download roms from here, extract to SD card and flash.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] demandarin:
I'm glad I'm Grandfathered in. Already have unlimited. I've been with them since suncom/cingular. This is going to kill those folks that use their device as main internet source/connection if they don't already have unlimited. The new plan SuX, Royally. I probaly use 2-3 times that maximum allotment, easily. Since my device is my main source of internet...browsing on device daily, heavily or tethering. They trying to say now that this internet is a commodity, and can't be given away thru unlimited anymore. Nows its, You gotta Pay, to Play. Lol. Sux to be a new customer. I hope other carriers don't follow suit, just in case I switch carriers in the near future.

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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] urkrnboy90:
Yeah, but I'm not so sure if I can pull it off. I know that in every carrier's terms and conditions it states that the client can terminate his or her contract without any ETF IF the carrier changes some part of the rate plan (a lot of people in the past used the raised "extra text message fee" to get out of their contract(s)). But with that it was because they had no choice but to apply that incremented rate in their plan--assuming they had LIMITED TEXT MESSAGING.

Now, for this data plan I'm aware that it is not FORCED on customers who have already signed up for the unlimited plan. This is where I lose hope in winning my way out of AT&T's contract. Anyone care to differ (please do :D)~
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] glennordway:
No, AT&T isn't breaching your contract by changing the rate you currently have. All existing customers will be able to continue using the $30 Unlimited Data (soft capped @ 5GB w/ no overage charges) and will be able to continue using that data plan even after they upgrade to a new phone.

However, if you opt to change to one of the new tiered data plans, you will not be able to get the unlimited plan back.

Also, i didn't see this mentioned but here are the tiered plans completely broken down:

Data Plus: $15 p/m - 200mb - $15 overage per 200mb - no tethering option - WiFi Hotspots included

Data Pro: $25 p/m - 2GB - $10 overage per 1GB - $20 for tethering - WiFi Hotspots included

Data Pro for Enterprise: $40 p/m - 2GB - $10 overage per 1GB - $20 for tethering - WiFi Hotspots included - Corporate Email access

Hope this helps clear any of the questions.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] p51d007:
I'm not a big data user. Ran a usage report for the last couple of years, only

once did I come close to the 200 meg range, so, this will REDUCE my bill.

I send/receive about 100-150 emails, 60-70 text messages a month.

Do any of you actually use the PHONE part of the smart phone :D

I use around 2000-3000 minutes a month.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] urkrnboy90:
Yeah, I thought so. But if you think about it a customer is still limited to only that plan he or she has; any changes to it will result in losing the previous data plan all in all. Customers do not sign the 2yr contract only to be limited to this and that, they have the freedom to change their plan without cons as long as they are still upholding their contract by staying with AT&T and paying up.

I still feel like this could be a reasonable argument.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] McHale:
They just continually make stupid decisions to rape customers. Let's go down memory lane a little.

A couple years ago: Blackjack II - AT&T had Samsung remove WiFi to "encourage" data usage.

Not too long ago: AT&T force all users with smartphones to get a data plan whether they use it or not.

Today: AT&T caps data because too many users are actually using it (i.e. iPhone is killing their bandwidth).

Everything they have done, while being in the "best interest of the customer" had done nothing but raised ARPU while giving the customer less and less.

I've had it. I've honestly had it. I've been a loyal customer since 1995 (proudly off contract since 1997) and I've got grandfathered minute and data plans that I'm surprised they haven't sent someone to my house to off me in my sleep to get me off of. But I wouldn't renew a contract with those shady bastards if my life depended on it. I hated Verizon for pulling this type of stuff but AT&T has sure pulled in the lead for screwing customers. Tack on the sandbagging of Android and blowing Steve Jobs and I just can't take it anymore.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] glennordway:
I see where you're coming from. However, in order for the ETF to be dropped, there would have to be a direct violation of your contract by the carrier. Although AT&T is very flexible with customers and their ability to change their rate plan without resigning their contract (unlike others out there), they still aren't in breach of the contract either.

But, don't take it from me, if you wish to try for yourself you're welcome to try... Good luck.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] pickles319:
I really feel sorry for the people that this retarded idea is affecting. However, the good news is that if you already have an unlimited plan you get to keep it until you renew your contract to get a new phone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] McHale:
I would say if you're not happy with their constant screwing, you could email the CEO:

http://consumerist.com/2007/08/updated-contact-att-ceo-randall-stephenson.html

Randall Stephenson, AT&T CEO

rs2982@att.com (direct)

randall.stephenson@att.com

phone: 210-351-5401 (direct to his secretary)

fax 210-351-3553

alternate phone: 210-821-4105 (headquarters, press 3, ask for Mr. Stephenson's office)

175 E. Houston

San Antonio, TX 78205

BUT:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/...that-emailing-the-ceo-will-result-in-a-cease/

Luckily, blasting them on their facebook and twitter is perfectly fine.

for now.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] McHale:
Sorry, I didn't have time to polish this up much...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] urkrnboy90:
"If we terminate your service for nonpayment or other default before the end of the Service Commitment, or if you terminate your service for any reason other than (a) in accordance with the cancellation policy; or (b) pursuant to a change of terms, conditions or rates as set forth below, you agree to pay us with respect to each device identifier or telephone number assigned to you, in addition to all other amounts owed, an Early Termination Fee in the amount specified below ("Early Termination Fee")."

Part (b) of the Service Agreement states that a change of terms, conditions or rates would qualify any customer in cancelling his or her contract with AT&T. It never directly implies that the conditions HAVE to affect the customer him/herself for him/her to cancel the contract. But I'm sure the AT&T rep or even the Supervisor would bring that up saying "Sir, this does not even affect you therefore, this does not qualify you for waiving the ETF."

Again, the Agreement states that if the CONDITIONS change, which it has even for the non-affecting customers, they quality for cancelling without the ETF.

Or someone could always consult a lawyer to take matters into their hands :)

All in all, I have no idea why I am taking this THIS far. Maybe cause I have a final I should be studying for but my mind is about to blow? Heh...oh boy....what am I doing..........................
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] bwnotredame06:
I too Have been with SWB Wireless since 1995 , I've Been very happy up until the ATT merger, It's totally ********* Sucked ever Since. I'm Gonna Research and pick another Carrier.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] McHale:
Yup. When it was just Cingular, I had stellar service. Since AT&T took over, they have implemented new plans and policies that absolutely suck balls. When they got the iPhone, I get constant dropped calls and horrible data rates.

I did find that forcing my phone to be WCDMA only and not allowing it to fall back to GSM has helped a lot, but then I run into the horrible 3G coverage.

f'ing AT&T. I jumped on their Facebook page just to hassle 'em. I'm not alone it seems doing that.

-Mc
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] stevedebi:
I think they will grandfather the clause, and so long as you do not change your plan the unlimited rate will still apply. For example, if you bought a phone that included a new rate plan, it could change.

Normally, contract terms are covered unless specifically changed. I know that some people here on T-Mobile are still getting unlimited at $20 because they signed up years ago.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dressanderc:
If get a phone, you have until June 7th to get the old $30/month unlimited plan. The new plans don't take effect until that date. Then everyone is forced to either get the $25 or $15 dollar plans. Just thought I would clarify that a little.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] XERO_Racer:
but i see that youll have to switch out the unlimited plan if you upgrade? because once at&t gets the desire(which i hope so) im going to upgrade

the main question is, i already have the unlimited data $30/m if i upgrade will they kick me out of the unlimited data? because if so, thats going to be a stupid idea and my hopes of having the desire(if ever they get it) will be very slim especially because thatll be my main internet source when i do get it because at the moment i use my tilt 2 as a main internet source(tethering) and i tag up around 2gb-4gb a month depending how many ROMs im downloading and youtube videos im watching

at&t is falling to pieces, theyre gonna lose me as a customer if this does happened when i upgrade, cant stand this
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dressanderc:
Yes, if you upgrade on or after June 7th, you will be forced to downgrade your data plan. You are only grandfathered in if you keep the current smartphone you have.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] XERO_Racer:
Actually your wrong, just confirmed on AT&Ts site, so i guess ill get the desire once they get it

AT&T- "We’re still getting a lot of questions on the data plans for NEW customers. We want to make sure everyone is clear. Current smartphone customers who like your unlimited plans do not have to switch to one of the new plans. Even if you’re upgrading to a new device or signing a new contract. After June 7, new smartphone customers will be able to choose between the new plans. Details are here: http://srm.vitrue.com/igu"
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] McHale:
I was told the same thing when I had the Media Max Unlimited with 1500 text, 200 MMS and unlimited data. Care to guess why I don't have it anymore?
[Touch2 General] irteza_h:
Hi...i wanted to flash my rom....got around the hspl thing...My touch2 shows hard spl while booting up with the tricolor band..but where do I go from here....What do I do now to flash my ROM....could someone please help me with this thanks....!!
[Touch2 General] mirost1:
You need to find the ROM you like from all cooked roms here in this section, put it on your computer in a new folder (it will be .nbu file), download the custom RUU, connect your phone via active sync, start the RUU and follow the instructions.
[Touch2 General] irteza_h:
Hi..i got the mega glass edition ...its an nbh type...does that make any difference????
[Touch2 General] irteza_h:
Sry if i posted in the dev. section.. New to this forum..thanks for the help...flashed my htc to the mega glass edition yesterday..looks great....gonna try setting up a kitchen now...thanks a lot
[Touch2 General] mirost1:
My mistake, it must be nbh sorry :D Find the custom RUU if its not in the zip with the ROM and follow what i said earlier :D
[Touch2 General] irteza_h:
can anyone explain me this..?? I flashed my ROM to a glass one yesterday.....liked the dusk too ..so i flashed my phone to dusk...then i thought that it was all getting a bit heavy so i flashed my phone to the mega lite rom....then i noticed that all the programs that were installed with glass and dusk were there in the lite rom too....just to confirm i flashed my phone to glass back and when it was booting up i saw the mega lite bootscreen!! Do i have to do something after i flash my phone to get rid of all the stuff that was installed during a previous flash????
[Touch2 General] mirost1:
Nope, every new flash deletes everything from the previous one.
[Touch2 General] irteza_h:
Ok i think in needed to hard reset my phone after flashing...that did solve the problem anyways...thanks
[Click Android Development] blackkn1ght:
O-Mod is a rom based on the latest Orange rom released by Htc (more precisely on lgstoian's rooted version).

Features (v.2):

1. Astro File Browser

2. Gmail app

3. Languages fixed :D

4. Tattoo Market Patch v2

Features (v.1):

1. Orange apps removed

2. Brut.all's Google Maps App

3. Default loading animation (non-branded, htc's original gifs)

4. Changed one of htc's original wallpapers with a new one, which i suppose is htc's new default one (you can see it as the wallpaper on all the new htc's devices in the htc homepage).

This rom is better than the original htc rom, it's stable, fast and the wallpapers are rendered correctly (no crappy compression as in the original rom).

Download Link v.2:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BZA85SU0

http://rapidshare.com/files/394564151/omodv2.zip

Download Link v.1:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=AH6TB5SG
[Click Android Development] blackkn1ght:
Oh, i forgot, only the 3 languages available in the original orange rom can be used in this rom.
[Click Android Development] nonoheran:
Any screenshot ?

what are the 3 languages ? french ?

thank's lot
[Click Android Development] blackkn1ght:
english, french and spanish
[Click Android Development] priban:
Is it possible to enter the german language pack ?:)
[Click Android Development] blackkn1ght:
i'll add other languages as soon as i figure out how to do it :D
[Click Android Development] priban:
ok thanks! this rom looks really good but i wish there would be a complete 2.1 rom :(
[Click Android Development] nonoheran:
feels Nice ,

Make a Nand backup , Wipe and try it lol :D

Do you know if Bt Work on it ?
[Click Android Development] blackkn1ght:
i didn't check, but it should be the same thing as the original 1.6...
[Click Android Development] dancer_69:
You can change to other languages with morelocale2(can found in market).

I have full greek translations with this.
[Click Android Development] milos11136:
Does bluetooth work in this version?
[Click Android Development] gigi-muschi:
no.it's the same as original version.
[Click Android Development] blackkn1ght:
i need help from a dev: MVNOs support is really limited on this rom, i can make phone calls, send messages but i can't configure the APN for mobile web navigation, but only the mms apn. any hint on how to fix this?

nvm, it works :D
[Click Android Development] madd0g:
Are Google apps in there ? Also it would be nice , if market patch would already be included ;]
[Click Android Development] arturocr:
Can we reuse the google apps of the stock HTC ROM?
[Click Android Development] stansmith2:
when i go to install the update from the recovery screen it says that the file is "bad" any reason why?
[Click Android Development] JonasKP:
eeeerh... the 2shared fire is corrupt. please fix it
[Click Android Development] genci:
App2sd

Has anyone applied app2sd to this rom? if Yes, please explain how to do it...
[Click Android Development] nonoheran:
F**K there is not gmail !!!!!! !

too bad , this rom is nice !!!!!
[Click Android Development] blackkn1ght:
testing right now a new version, and it seems to work perfectly :D
[Click Android Development] stansmith2:
im on vodafone network and i cant see to get 3g can you only get 3g on orange?
[Click Android Development] blackkn1ght:
i've got 3g and i'm not orange. you should check the apn configuration
[Click Android Development] stansmith2:
it isn't letting me access the apn screen in settings
[Click Android Development] larc0s:
When will be Version 0.2 up? And did "language fixed" mean, that there are more than three languages available now? ANd if i may ask: How did you manage this?
[Click Android Development] blackkn1ght:
3 minutes left (if there are no errors with the upload)

yes, now every language is available. i used the "frankenstein" method: i used the language files from another official rom.
[Click Android Development] blackkn1ght:
done! i'll add some mirrors later
[Click Android Development] Sargeros:
What about battery ?
[Click Android Development] blackkn1ght:
i don't know yet, i'll have to test it for an extended period of time to know
[Click Android Development] Sargeros:
I'm flashing it, I'm gonna test :)
[Click Android Development] liderzre:
Flashed, testing... How to remove Voicemail from favorites?
[Click Android Development] madd0g:
Sweet, gmail + market patch, thanx alot;] i dont want to be an ass now, but can the youtube app also be included?;D

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[Click Android Development] larc0s:
Thanks for update :)

It's a very nice rom (like the white touch).

Installed Helix Launcher and now it's perfect :)
[Click Android Development] nonoheran:
HEEUUUU How do we active 3G ???

does a WIPE is necessary to instal from rooted stock rom ?
[Click Android Development] genci:
app2sd

Is app2sd working in this ROM? I couldn't manage. If someone has done it, please explain steps.

Thanks!
[Click Android Development] dejandekic:
Wipe was NOT necessary for v.1, don't know for v.2...
[Click Android Development] nonoheran:
there is a Orange app that stay on boot , don t know how to remove it ?

i m killing it , but , it come back later ....is anyone Know with file to edit to remove the reload of this app ?
[Click Android Development] nonoheran:
For APN :

Before flashing , i use "APN backup and restor" ( Free on Market )

save this app with ASTRO ( pre instaled on the rom ... ) ,

Flashing

backup app (always with astro )

and restore APN from "APN backup and restor"

Work fine for me !!
[Click Android Development] gribelu:
Hmm I can't "adb push" into /system/app/ with this ROM. I was trying to remove Maps and Astrid because they can't ever be updated if they are in /system/app

Can you please move them to /data/app/ instead?