yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Eshonline:
I use Astrill VPN services since i live in china and facebook & youube are blocked here

I wrote a mail to Astrill support asking them if they would offer a service for WP7 and they replied:

"If windows 7 phones support L2TP\IPSec.

You will be able to use our service with it."

does windows phone 7 support L2TP\IPSec??
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mieszko1:
Hello,

Any news regarding VPN on Windows Phone 7 ?

I need it to connect with my company email adress.

I would be grateful for any help

As I know there is no option to install any VPN app which works on WP 6.5 ?
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ogner:
Back in January there was a report which said Windows Mobile 7 Business to be released in 2010. And WM7 Media to be released in 2011.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/187178/windows_mobile_7_to_get_two_versions_report_says.html

The report was wrong. However, I cannot imagine that Windows Phone would not have VPN, Sockets, IP Sec, IE9 Mobile, voice satnav etc by September 2011The one thing I don't expect is full multitasking of third party apps.

Windows Phone is aimed at people who don't want to deal with geeky stuff. They want something easy to use and which covers all the basics. And which is beautiful and has beautiful apps. WP is influenced by iOS but is actually competing with Android. WP is a much better choice than Android for the none geek. Which is 98.0% of humanity.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lqaddict:
So all this issues that have been filed with MS answers support forum (or whatever it is called) is coming from Android users?

You gotta be living in Ballmer's ass thinking that.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Eshonline:
has any one read anything about VPN support in the meanwhile?

it's the only thing that i miss on my phone at the moment... well and VOIP would be nice
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Caid444:
from all the things I have read, it seems vpn is still missing from winpho7.

I also live in China and need a vpn. I bought an HD7 and felt sad when I had to return it a few days later. It is a beautiful os, but not at all good for foreigners in China.

-Caid.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Eshonline:
Totally agree! VPN us important and Skype is also missing... I found though that is not that tragic with the mango update coming in the end of the year all the problems should be solved :)

Sent from my OMNIA7 using Board Express
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nicksti:
The Skype part missing will be fixed. I have not seen anything official on missing VPN being addressed.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tsmith90:
It would be nice to have VPN support but it is apparent that WP7 is getting better with time.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brokensonata:
htc hd7 on china T_T

:: like me... T_T am a foreigner in china and just bought mah win7 htc hd7 but it seems useless since i can't even access fb and tweeter on mah fone :((( even multimsgr for win7 not applicable for mah fone..
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Eshonline:
anyone knows whether MANGO will support VPN?

I read in a website that there is still no VPN support - can this be??
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sh4wN:
If there's no VPN support when the official update arrives, whether it is app-based or built-in, I'll need to buy another phone. VPN is essential to log in to our universitys network.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dimitris__:
I suppose microsoft does not want our private data tunneled. All must go through their servers...
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Andrmgic:
vpn probably won't come until the update after mango.. supposedly that release will be more focused on enterprise features.. I'd be surprised if vpn is missing from that list.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tighoor:
most of iranians people Do not buy Windows Phone 7 devices.. because our stupid islamic goverment Filterd many websites.. facebook. twitter... youtube... g+ ... and many other sites...

so we need VPN function... all OSs have VPN... android ... wm6.5 ... iphone ... and blabla...

i dont know why windows phone 7 dont have VPN !!! it is very ridiculous
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marksmithbvs:
Hello Yep you are absolutely right in saying if there is no VPN why would organizations use it for their email. But there is more to it,

Organizations won;t use it for their email/

They won't recommend their employees to have Windows Phone 7 Smartphones as they won't be able to have secure remote access with out VPN.

Netizens in Censored Countries won't use it as it won't allow them to bypass censorship

Heavy Hotspot users won;t use Windows Phone 7 as they can't VPN for secure WiFi Sessions.

And there is a lot more if they don't support VPN.

I wonder why they haven't decided to roll out the update with Windows Phone 7.5 Mango. This will fail the product in corporate and Privacy Oriented Users for sure.

http://www.bestvpnservice.com/blog/why-need-vpn-on-windows-phone-7-5-mango
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wilsonj:
vpn

i think mango does not support vpn .
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dragonide:
Is this true ?

Aren't the new API supposed to let the programmers play with sockets now ?

What does stop them from making a VPN app ?

I'd really like an Hamachi Client or Teamviewer Client :(

Btw I saw there are already some VNC Client in the Marketplace that claim to bypass firewall and similar ... I think these already existing apps are probably based on tunneling ...

So I really don't understand why an Hamachi app is impossible (I know Hamachi is closed source : I mean a LOGMEIN Hamachi App)
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yesvpn:
PPTP or L2TP/IPSEC ?
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GoodDayToDie:
VPN has two parts: the network connection (what data gets tunneled over) and the network interface (what the OS sends data it wants to tunnel into). The Mango APIs *might* allow writing the first (don't count on it; the official version of the Sockets API is extremely limited and may not permit the required protocols) but it certainly doesn't allow writing the second (installing a network interface on the phone, and setting it as the default one). Even if it did, the VPN software would need to run continuously in the background, wrapping and unwrapping the tunneled data. WP7 doesn't allow this.

It could be done on a fully unlocked ROM, but it would be a lot of work.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] salah_heart:
after those hundreds of proplem with android we need then to go to the windows again

when i used android from the first time i have many proplems and no one can answer it not even me this great forum full of android proplems

i think we just spent our money with this uneasy system from google

hundreds of android mobiles will be on the hell after few weeks

thanks
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] mrbkkt1:
Are you kidding me? After all the problems I had w/ winmo, I will never go back.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] donepate:
BLASPHEMY!!!
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] ronni.rasmussen:
Most problems you find here is related to cooked kernel/roms there isnt based on official magic releases.

Anyway if you cared to make a bit research before starting topics with questions there is answered a lot of other places, you might get a bit more help. The questions asked by you has answers in the wiki and the sticky topics, you even asked question where you already wrote the answer. It's important to read carefully and understand the things you're about to do.

If people can see you got a problem which is either hard or doesn't have a solution for it anywhere yet, people are more likely and happy to help.

But as far as i understand is that right now you need to get fastboot to work. So first of all get the SDK and make the driver working for it so you can connect your device with adb. You'll find information about this in the wiki: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Sapphire_Hacking#sec02

Good luck!
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] Kemekill Products:
Windows=limited potential

Android= OpenSource= Unlimited potential

What you're lacking to understand that the devs here are dealing with an OS that has only existed for 3 years. While the exact same windows coding has been used for close to 20..

furthermore.. you can not compare the problems with WinMo to the Android problems. WinMo problems where because of ****ty devs. Android problems are from stupid users who can't follow clear directions. I've done over 100 successful Android flashes, and probably 1000 some tweaks to my phone over the past 2 years. Never once have I had an issue. How do you ask? Cause I do my research, I know my coding, I follow directions. Android modding isn't for people who don't know code and who are e-tards. If you want your safety net go back to WinMo. Now go play with an HD2 and tell me how it feels to have a phone with a 1ghz processor only do 2.4mflops because the OS is horrible and then feel stupid cause you can a lame phone with WinBlows on it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] LlabTooFeR:
Here the full shipped RUU_IncredibleC_Verizon_WWE_1.22.605.0 ROM availible on shipped-roms.com

http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Inc...dio_1.00.03.04.06_release_161493_NoDriver.exe

Enjoy! :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] cromanorn:
Does this help in achieving root?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] slumpey326:
how do you run the shipped ROM if you need to, is there certain instructions you need to follow. just wondering
[Droid Incredible Android Development] g00s3y:
Can this not be the first question asked in every topic now. Root Will get done when its done. This will do pretty much the exact same thing has a hard reset.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rcicu:
WOW! That's not what he asked.... :confused:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mach1man:
What is the Rom going to do? anything special?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] cromanorn:
I was simply asking if this ROM would help in achieving root, not if we had root? Can this type of response (flame) not happen every time a person asks anything related to root.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mmmk:
This ROM will only help someone achieve root if they don't have the device...

It sounds like g00s3y needs to get laid and is joining in on the Acid/Jake bashing bs that has been going on for the past few days... g00s3y this flaming needs to stop and people need to look past the douche bags that are trying to break up the dev community! :eek:

Thanks,
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rcicu:
+1 People need to stop the Flaming!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] binny1007:
sweet thanks a ton
[Droid Incredible Android Development] binny1007:
just so everyone knows you can downgrade form the ota with this
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rcicu:
Cool, didn't think about that...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] seanmcd72:
The ERIS was rooted with the assistance of a leaked ROM, so his question was quite valid.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] andrewzpsu:
Did the p-trace exploit work on the pre-OTA version (ie this one???)

If there were any pre-OTA exploits I think we found some great possibilities.

Anyone who was working on them care to elaborate?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mach1man:
what exactly does this ROM do to the phone, besides downgrade the OTA
[Droid Incredible Android Development] DeeBG:
Do you mean what would happen if you were to flash this rom to your phone? It would run as a normal phone (since it's just an HTC-signed rom, it wouldn't likely automatically give you root unless it was a test release, which I don't believe it is, however it may still contain exploitable bugs/flaws that could lead to a possible rooting =).
[Droid Incredible Android Development] DeeBG:
Time to bust our your magic bag of tricks binny =p.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] 1wayjonny:
Yes it is, the second part of the statement clearly says what this will do.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mmmk:
Very exciting times ahead!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] 1wayjonny:
Wasn't the root from the Droid Eris about stuffing more data afterwards since there was no check for extra data after teh signed file.

This was closed already wasn't it? If so bringing up the Droid Eris is a mute point?

But I guess anything is possible but I remember the Eris hole being patched up
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mach1man:
Thanks that's what I was wondering. I didn't know if it had any extra programs or if it would help the phone any. Thanks again
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rcicu:
i was under the impression that this was like a rom dump informative but not helpful if you have the phone in hand....
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mixpix405:
baleted

10chars
[Droid Incredible Android Development] anothen:
saved. thanks!

STICKY PLEASE
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hetaldp:
So we have hboot 0.77 in hand so possibly Hackers and Developers can reverse Engineer it for possible exploits
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jonnybueno:
Can anyone share the ruu downgrade procedure? I'm familiar with android upgrading/downgrading but have never used an ruu.

I searched, but am away from a pc so I would love an informative link please.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tats_06:
Ruu works on pc...you install it, then launch and it will walk you thru the process. :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] slumpey326:
do you have to be linked to it via your pc. How do you install it, onto sdcard? basically how do you run it exactly.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jonnybueno:
Sounds like its an executable . Should be self containing. But yes, you would need to connected to your pc with appropriate drivers.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] TNS201:
You run it with your phone attached by USB to your pc and it will guide you through it...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Aerv:
Is there any way to extract the files from it without flashing the phone?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] askwhy:
When you run the RUU without a phone attached it will still extract its contents to a temporary folder, and you can retrieve the contents (including the rom.zip) from there before closing the RUU.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bilbobrian:
Run it on a windows machine, at the first screen STOP. Type run, enter. when the run dialog box opens type %TEMP%. Then search for rom.zip, take that out of the temp folder, then cancel RUU_Incredible. Hope that helps...:)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] b16a2smith:
Checksum or no?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] IncredibleDoes:
use 'unyaffs' to extract the system files and the userdata files.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jonnybueno:
If anyone successfully downgrades from the ota, please let us know.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Munnin:
Suggestion...

Could we start a beginners dev forum, where the high-speed devs that have been developing for specific platforms? This could be the place where newbs, myself included, can ask these questions. I feel for those that ask these questions, but also understand how frustrating it can be to have this question pop-up every single time new files come out.

Offer solutions. Don't create a problem where one doesn't exist. Don't complain if you can't contribute to resolving the problem.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jonnybueno:
Huh? Seems like everyone is playing nice right now...

We actually have several people helping less experienced members on this thread instead of the usual noob bashing.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] evilone1969:
I just cant seem to get this to work... maybe anyone can point me in the right direction please, im on widows 7 x64 with the latest drivers.

I get though the 1st cpl screens it reboots my phone into the bootloader by itself.. then after the counter gets to about 60 it states error 170 usb connection error.

my usb cable is new and works fine

i do however have the update installed.. maybe thats the diff?

anyways sorry to b a noob.. i know your all busy with trying to achieve root etc. ty for giving me a moment of your time.

tyvm for the upload btw
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Munnin:
Maybe because it wasn't even sport anymore :D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jonnybueno:
Well that's nice.

You should apply to be a mod then... so you can keep things how everyone likes it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] TNS201:
Do you have HTC Sync installed?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] IncredibleDoes:
I downgraded, just extract the rom.zip from the RUU and rename it to PB31IMG.zip flash via bootloader.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] phoenx06:
Ink just wondering, why us everyone wanting to downgrade from the OTA? I thought all it was was an update for Exchange users.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] opcode1300:
The OTA included other updates as well (the recovery for example) which may patch a flaw we could use to root the device.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] evilone1969:
yup i have htc sync installed.. gonna try to extract and go that route :)

ty again
[Droid Incredible Android Development] giantcrazy:
+1 - don't know if it's just my paranoid side, but their hesitation and sketchy reply when asked what the OTA update was for leads me to believe they were closing up a hole there as well as fixing some minor bugs.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] touchpro247:
Can you post the PB31IMG.zip here? I would but, I can't post links yet.

Thanks!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] 1wayjonny:
I need to know if any one was able to downgrade via the PC not renaming the rom.zip

Let me know thanks its important
[Droid Incredible Android Development] TNS201:
how did you extract the rom.zip from it?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] TNS201:
I just ran it through my pc and it downgraded my phone for me! It automatically downloaded the new update and is nagging me to install it again.

Seems it didn't downgrade hboot, I think the stock version is .75, and mine is .77
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kep0ne:
Stock version is .77
[Droid Incredible Android Development] dreamersipaq:
question from a noob

Since we have the whole rom as a zip, can you pull the keys off of it? If we were to remove something from the rom so once SU is installed the size is identical to that of the original rom, and use the same signed keys as the original rom contains, would that work to help with root, or does the system do an md5 checksums? or do the keys get automatically changed somehow when the rom is messed with?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] 1wayjonny:
Which USB drivers are you using I have tried two machines and they both get the USB error.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SoCalMiles:
Stock IS .77
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SoCalMiles:
won't work
[Droid Incredible Android Development] TNS201:
I just installed HTC sync and it worked fine in windows xp 32 bit. Also seemed like it would work with windows 7 32bit
[Droid Incredible Android Development] binny1007:
why is it important, and you have to have the right drivers in order for it to work.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jmacko:
In basic terms: rather than just saying it won't work...

The ROMs are signed (all the bits in the file are added up and thorough a series of cryptographic processes a value is created). Before the phone will recognize the ROM as valid it does the calculation again to check for tampering/broken files.

So if you change a single bit of the file, the signature is no longer valid, and will not load.

The holy grail would be to figure out what the process is that is used to sign the files, and then we could make our own. But this would be much harder than other exploits.

So unless we can find a way to get the phone to stop checking for the signature, it's a no go.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] 1wayjonny:
Bad USB driver, had to uninstall and reinstall USB driver and update from the PC was OK.

I might as well mention what I was looking while looking at the RUU

It looks like the RUU can send *.DAT files to the data path during/before/after the upgrade process, I have tried a few different things with ZERO success so far.

But I am also interested in the mode the updates go through using fastboot with the blackscreen, seems different then normal but it may not be.

Lastly, we should look into the ForcePreUpdate option for any stuffing of data before/during/after

Just few out of the norm ideas that I have used before with th RUU during windows roms for certain task but feel free to play around please
[Droid Incredible Android Development] nailbnny:
From what I can see, ARUWizard.exe has these fastboot and adb commands available to use:

fastboot -s *yourDevice* flash *var* "*var*"

fastboot -s *yourDevice* reboot

fastboot -s *yourDevice* oem rebootRUU

fastboot -s *yourDevice* getvar *var*

fastboot devices

fastboot-s *yourDevice* erase cache

adb -s *yourDevice* shell reboot

adb -s *yourDevice* shell reboot oem-78

adb -s *yourDevice* shell getprop ro.build.description

adb -s *yourDevice* shell cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/capacity

adb devices

adb -s *yourDevice* push *var* *var*

adb -s *yourDevice* shell PPST

adb kill-server

There are also a few references to ADBCommand.log. I haven't looked for that file yet.

nB
[Droid Incredible Android Development] nailbnny:
Hopefully that was what you were asking for... If not, maybe someone else will find it useful. :]

nB
[Droid Incredible Android Development] B-dub25:
I don't know if this helps but

http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Inc...09_release_149249_hboot_076.0000_NoDriver.exe

It looks like a downgrade hboot
[Droid Incredible Android Development] B-dub25:
does this help.

I don't know if this helps but

http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Inc...09_release_149249_hboot_076.0000_NoDriver.exe

It looks like a downgrade hboot
[Droid Incredible Android Development] B-dub25:
Sorry for the double post
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Ffej5647:
Yes it does seem that way. Ill see if I can do anything with it but I really don't think it will help with getting root soon but we will see. I will have to check some sploits for that hboot version but i really can't promise anything with that version. Thanks for your help!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Munnin:
Now why would I do that??? Then I wouldn't have anything to be bitter about ;)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hetaldp:
I have tried to Modify the ROM.zip

but in all Apps like WinRar 7Zip Winzip it gives error

Only WinRAR and 7Zip can extract the files
[Droid Incredible Android Development] 1wayjonny:
Its signed, changing it breaks the signature...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hetaldp:
Generally Signed Zip have Different FOrmat Signed Zip is just like old Update.zip which Contains Public Certificate and Signature Hash.

but ROM.zip is somewhat Proprietary Format
[Droid Incredible Android Development] doug piston:
I emailed HTC to request a RUU witrh root for ****s and giggles. I didnt think they would respond but they did

Hi Adam, Thanks for taking the time to contact HTC America Technical Support via E-Mail with your inquiry about getting a test RUU with Root access for the DROID Incredible by HTC. My name is A.J. and I will be happy to assist you today. HTC America does not provide test RUU’s to our end-uses nor do we offer any way for you to have Root access to your device. I apologize for any frustrations this may cause you. If you are interested in the source code for your device for developing applications you can visit

thought it was humorous.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] anubis_dragoon:
@Doug

Haha, nice. I'd love to get the whole Incredible crowd to email htc support and keep nagging about it. They won't give the root, but it sure would be amusing =D