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[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Unfortunately, that's currently not possible... :(

SPB did not release any sdk, so modders are limited to skinning and tweaking existing stuff.... can't add all-new functionalities that are not already present anywhere in mobile shell...
[Windows Mobile Themes] rajatthakran:
Current Date Widget

Hi,

Is there a widget just to display the simple current date like "27 June 2010" in white ?

Thanks in Advance.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Not in MsM libraries at the moment (was thinking of adding it though), but I think there could be such a thing in the package published by citizenb a couple pages ago in this thread... try taking a look at it ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] citizenb:
Have a look for my modular clocks pack earlier in the thread - it has simple dates like this in different colors and sizes (including white of course) :), it's built to plug into MsM easily - just unzip into your Widgets Manager folder and inject the xml files.
[Windows Mobile Themes] rajatthakran:
thanks Vostradamus and citizenb.. my bad have a qvga device :(
[Windows Mobile Themes] citizenb:
I am planning a qvga version of the set :D

I have one more set of panels I want to finish up in vga and I'm busy with preview images to make it more MsM friendly. As soon as this is done I will start on a qvga conversion - lets say tentatively I will try and have it done for next weekend :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] mskip:
I had 4 of those (left, right center justified, and a framed one) in my original widgets pack (QVGA and VGA) that you got the other stuff from, if you wanted to pull it from there and add it in your manager.

Mark.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Yep, I remember them :)

I think I'll just re-make them though, being simple text without graphics it's gonna be faster than digging them out of somewhere :p
[Windows Mobile Themes] mskip:
Most probably lol ;)

Mark.
[Windows Mobile Themes] RedRamage:
Question on the Invisible frame pictures:

Is there a reason for the different sizes? It seems to me that the frame always resizes to the size of the picture, which is great... that's what I want. But I'm just wondering what the purpose for the different sizes if it always changes to the size of the pic?

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
It does not change _always_ :)

If the image is larger than the size it adapts the image according to its aspect ratio to fit in the defined size max :)

So let's say you have a 800x800 image and you want it in 240x240 on your screen: you're gonna need a 240x240 defined widget. And the same image could be shown as a 480x480 with another defined size, and so on ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] citizenb:
Modular Clocks Update v5.0

CHANGELOG 28 JUNE 2010

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Fixes/Changes

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Reduced width of small simple dates

All items in the set now have MsM preview images :D

Added

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4 Tinted Glass sets (in all 10 colors of course)

2 Sets of Circles 240x240 and 160x160 - sizes matched with the std medium and large analog clocks to create some really nice press on cover effects :D

2 Matching Sets of Tinted Glass panels 480x120 and 480x160

The full set now consists of:

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Clean Digital Clocks 10 Colors 2 Sizes

Clean Text Dates 10 Colors 2 Sizes

Clean AM/PM Indicators 10 Colors 2 Sizes

Clean Text City/Temp 10 Colors 2 Sizes

Dark Trans Backing Panels 10 Colors 2 Sizes

Brushed Metal Panels 14 colors 2 Sizes

Tinted Glass Panels 10 Colors 2 Sizes

Tinted Glass Circular Panels 10 colors 2 Sizes

The entire package is bundled into a single zip - unpack into your widgets manager folder and inject the xmls in the CBWXml folder

Theme files are included if you want to activate them all at once for testing.

To Do List:

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A QVGA Set (next on the list)

Matching Clean Square Dates using date widget for additional variety

Matching Alarm Widgets

More Panel variants, (solid colors, gradients, textured etc)

More Clock Variants, (additional colors,textures etc)

Cheers

Citizenb
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Once again, nice work :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] mwalt2:
What is the best way to put names on the Custom Panels? Vostradamus, I like the way your custom panel names look (ie Games) and can't quite figure out the way to do it.
[Windows Mobile Themes] RedRamage:
Are you talking about Names on the buttons or names on the top of the panel?

For example, look at this screen shot from my setup.

If you are talking that you want a name at the top of the panel, then:

This is my "programs" panel, as you can see by the text at the top. You can put this text in two ways:

First (how I have it) as a background for this panel. I created a 750x480 bmp that is black, except for the word "PROGRAMS" at the top. Then using MsM you set the background for this panel to use this bmp file. Don't forget to create one for the landscape version as well.

Second as a picture. You could create a small 75x480 pixel jpg or whatever format of picture that is just the title of the panel. Then use the picture frame widget to put that picture at the top of the panel. You can use MsM "frame-less" skin if you don't want a frame.

The benefit of the first method is that the word isn't "clickable." You won't accidentally launch the picture program if you tap it. The benefit of the second method is that it's easy to edit and rearrange.

However, I suspect that what you are talking about is wanting a clickable icon that says "GAMES" that will open your games panel, but you want the pictures/color/whatever different than those frames that Vost created. Again, you have two methods:

Method one: Beg Vostradamus to create new pics for you.

Method two: Use a variation of the second option from above. Create a picture with or without the words on it that you want. Again using the picture frame widget, add this picture into the panel. Next, use the shortcut widget to create a link to the panel you want. Change the skin of that link to using one of the Vostradamus' invisible links and drop it right on top of the picture in question.

I've also used this method in my attached screen shot. See the picture of the GPS Satellite in the bottom right of the screen shot? That's just a plain old picture. But I've put an invisible link on top so when I tap the picture it takes me to my GPS panel. This method of course requires a bit more skill in making pictures and resizing them appropriately. But the advantage of Method One is you can create EXACTLY what you're looking for and it's easy to update or change if you want to later.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
I guess you're talking about the "title" on top of the page, right over the kitten... :)

As RedRamage guessed and did himself, that is a wallpaper image :)

I created the wallpaper images one by one putting the title on top and fading it down to the kitten, then I just used MsM to set every bmp image as a wallpaper for the corresponding panel :p
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
The second method also have another drawback though: picture frames do not support transparency so you can't fade to the wallpaper below :(

(I still wonder why spb did not implement png transparency at least in picture frames... it's plain dumb if you ask me lol) :p

PS: I'm working on those other things you asked for... the white/gray dots battery is done, the ProStatus-like one is almost done :)

Will release them as soon as I'll complete the other pending requests I have on my to-do list ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] mwalt2:
Ha, I guess the simplest solution is the best. I was talking about a title at the top of the tab...though I didn't think of just making it on the wallpaper :). I tried the picture frame, but it did not look very good (could still see the background since the 'borderless' has a 1 pixel or whatever border around it).
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Yep, it's a 1 pixel transparent border :p unfortunately, mobile shell does not allow 0 pixels borders :(

It used to accept them up to version 3.5.2 if I'm not mistaken, but then they changed it... still have to understand why.... lol maybe it was too smart, and therefore not in line with spb standards :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] RedRamage:
While we're talking about backgrounds, what size should they be? I originally setup as 800 x 480 and 480 x 800 pixels for wvga, but of course if you have the title bar showing this cuts off the bottom. I started using 750 x 480 and 430 x 800 and this seems to have worked, but I'm not sure if 50 pixels for the Title bar is accurate or not.
[Windows Mobile Themes] panadolff:
Hi,

is there any website or file with preview of ALL Vostradamus Mobile Shell Manager 5.04 widgets ( MsM Full Widgets Library (VGA).wzg - 81,405 KB - 2010-06-23 ) ?

It's kind a slow and rly annoying to preview them with Mobile Shell Menager. Or should i install another Image Viewer software ( i've got standart one from win6.1 ) ?

And thx for your work you've all done so far ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
If I'm not mistaken, the taskbar should be 52 pixels tall on wm 6.5, and probably somewhat shorter on 6.5.x (not sure how much though) :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Take a look at the first post of this thread: there's a link to an online gallery on picasa ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] panadolff:
Yeah, i saw it, but there are not all the widgets. I assume there are only the newest one.

Edit: Or am i wrong ? oO

I could swear i saw few that arent there. Or was it just another colour.. well sorry for trouble :P
[Windows Mobile Themes] poppscc:
is there a fix for the mortscript close "x"? I have a tendency to close with the X and one of the only fixes I need for this. I am satisfied with my current widgets, could I uninstall mortscript to get it working again? I am even willing to uninstall the manager if needed, and reinstall if I want more widgets.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Yep, sometimes when a widget is available in several colors I put on picasa only one of them and just write in the description the list of available colors... :p Just trying not to have a too huuuuuuuge list of images on the album lol :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
unfortunately I have no way to "intercept" the x button from inside the manager :(

I don't get what you mean by uninstalling and reinstalling though.... mortscript does not really need to be installed/uninstalled... it's just the executable file :p

If you uninstall the whole manager every already active widget and customization will still work no problem, so you sure can do it.... but I just don't get what you would achieve with it :confused: If you're not inside the manager there's no x button to mess with :p Even if you accidentally use it while in the manager, most times opening and closing a random app is enough to get the mortscript window back, or in the worst case scenario a soft reset will get rid of it... but once you close it you're good to go with no strange x buttons anywhere ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] RedRamage:
Thanks!! I'm eagerly anticipating the new battery and the "Audio" frame for the link. Those two pieces are the last bit of "eye candy" I need to make my current setup complete.

Of course, once I get it complete I'm sure I'll think of something else to tweak! :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] citizenb:
Thanks again :) I have a list of about 20 things I want to add, but I'm going to be disciplined and do a qvga conversion on everything I've done so far like I said :D

Just one quick technical question - can you explain how the align property works on the weather widgets?

It seems to take a value from 1-9, but I couldn't make much sense out what the different values are and got some really odd results in testing that just did my head in.:confused:
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
lol had no doubts about it :p
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
I'm sure qvga users will appreciate that a lot ;) I know there are some already waiting :p

Actually I've never played much with that parameter so far 'cause I didn't seem to need it... :p Usually when I start playing with a parameter I've never used before I write down a table with all the values I'm gonna try and take note of everything I see when trying them... so what I can suggest is: define the area that will contain the part you're testing quite large so you can easily see what happens when changing the align parameter, then start experimenting and write down everything you notice ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] poppscc:
I'm not sure what the problem is, but sometimes when I click the close "x", I will get the spb to crash. I'm not talking about the manager either. I thought it was through spb contacts, but I have not been able to replicate the problem. If I get it again, I'll be back to show you the bug. I dont use the manager much because I'm liking my configuration, and it's not a big deal if the manager has to run a certain way.

edit: found the problem. 3d message viewer crashes when I "X" out of it. I love the 3d message viewer too. Will probably go to the default if I cant solve this.

edit: nevermind, found the problemsome app, the spb task manager app (not the one built in, but the one that has the little dot in the corner). uninstalled and now working again!
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
lol sounds like I got you completely wrong then, I thought you were referring to the x close button while inside the manager, not for another app :p

Glad you solved the issue, I guess this info about that task manager could prove useful for some other user too in future ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] ramsuresh4:
Dear Mr.Vostradamus, Please help

I downloaded the 'MSM Full Widget Library - qvga' .

I opened this using 'pocket rar'. But each file asks password. Can you Please tell the password? OR

Which program i need to open perfectly ? PLEASE HELP.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
the libraries are not supposed to be opened manually, you should use the "import library" function inside MsM :)

Try reading the FAQs in the second post of this thread, everything is explained in there ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] kenziesgrandma:
Good morning Vostradamus, I have a question for you that's unrelated to your program but I need your help if you don't mind. I know that you use S2U2 so I was hoping you might be able to help me with this. I'm trying to use the "Clock" program (in the Start Menu) not the system program "Clocks and Alarms". My problem is that the alarm goes off and just barely starts to sound then S2U2 seems to shut it down. The system alarm program works perfectly but I don't like it as well. Is there any way to set up S2U2 to be able to use the "Clock" program?

thanks

Kathy

ps. maybe could you tell me what kind of alarm program you use and what the settings are?
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
I usually don't use alarms, so I'm gonna take a wild guess here... :p

Most probably system alarm is working fine 'cause it's part of Windows Mobile and maybe S2U2 already knows not to "block" it...

The samsung clock, on the other hand, is a different app... so maybe S2U2 needs to be told how to handle it.... try taking a look in S2U2 advanced settings, there should be an exclusion list for the apps that S2U2 should let "pass"... try adding tclock.exe to that list and see if it gets any better ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] kenziesgrandma:
Thanks for the reply Vostradamus, could you please tell me how to add that to the Exceptions list, I can't seem to figure out where it is? I'm sorry to be such a dunce but I've been trying so many different settings to see if I can get this to work that I don't know whether I'm coming or going. This sounds like it might work if I can figure out how to do it.

thanks so much

Kathy
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
My S2U2 is not the latest version, but I guess the setting should be in the same place:

S2U2Settings -> Advanced -> Exceptional EXEs List -> press "+" on top-left -> browse to \windows -> find tclock.exe and press its "+" -> tap "done" on top-right -> save

That should be it, then you only need to test if it works :p
[Windows Mobile Themes] kenziesgrandma:
I really appreciate your help Vostradamus, the problem is I can't find tclock.exe. I looked through everything I could find under Windows and I can't find it.

thanks

Kathy:(
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
when you're in s2u2 settings and you browse to \windows do you click on the text "windows" or on the arrow on the right? you need to click on the text 'cause if you click on the arrow it will only show you the subfolders inside windows and not the files....
[Windows Mobile Themes] RedRamage:
I use SU2U as well, though I'm pretty new to it so I may not be able to help you much.

However, I can answer the P.S. I use SPB Time. It's nice because in integrates into Mobile Shell and will give you a few extra widget categories. The alarm functions on the newest version are VERY finger friendly. You also get count-down and count-up timers and a number of skins (I believe the skins also import into the SPB Time widgets in mobile shell).

But the most important part is, at least for me, I have had no issues with S2U2 working with the SPB Time Alarm.
[Windows Mobile Themes] kenziesgrandma:
Thanks Vostradamus, you're awesome! It works perfectly now. Thank you so much.

Kathy
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Right, I forgot about spb Time (lol even if I have it too) :p

I've never used its alarm, but at least I can say that the rest of it is very nice :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] kenziesgrandma:
Vostradamus, I just downloaded your new Full Library. If I install it and delete the old libraries from my device do I have to reactivate all my widgets again? Or should I even bother deleting the old libraries (I was just thinking of the storage space)?

thanks

Kathy
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
once the libraries are imported, you don't need the wzg files anymore (if not for backup purposes) so no problem in deleting them :)

Active widgets will remain active, even if you uninstall MsM and delete its folder ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] ChrisGarner:
And if i search to a program which has this function? Or any mortscript?

:)

I'm looking for it because i like more wm start menu than spb one... Then i also modified start menu with my personal icons...:p
[Windows Mobile Themes] powercat1:
I've mostly been playing with creating widgets for myself since your tutorial. However, I am now ready to further explore the manager. If I come across something I think might be good to add, I will let you know.

I have a question. I don't really like the "scrolling" background idea in lifestyle panels, so I try to stick to only professional panels. MSM makes creating my own panels and setting their background image very easy. However, I cannot find a way to change the background image for the primary MS panel. Is this possible? What am I missing?

As always, thanks a lot for your help!
[Windows Mobile Themes] sulster:
Me Again!

Okay, just wanted to report back. I re-downloaded the file and put it in the root directory on the Storage Card. Works fine!! I love it and am very appreciative of the excellent work!

I have donated some drink/chicken funds :) (Confirmation number:	9H63379607814694J)

Jotha: thanks for the very clear instructions! The only thing I missed as a newbie was that you go into the Mobile Shell "Change Skin" to use the Widgets you have activated...

Excellent job to you both and my thanks! :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] jotha:
A program could not have the function, as the program would itself have to "press a button in another program". See it that way: As long as you do not see the start button on the screen, it cannot be pressed. This is also valid for a program that wants to do that. You can only activate a function in a program that is in the foreground. On the other hand, if you see the start button, you can press it yourself and would not need a link to it.

Sorry, but I think that is the way it is. Now, as this is no Mobile Shell Manager issue, i suggest we abandon this topic here.
[Windows Mobile Themes] jotha:
If you mean the main mobile shell screen (which is a lifestyle screen) just open the menu (via the menu button in the lower left). There you find "Change Background".
[Windows Mobile Themes] jotha:
You're welcome for your thanks. In the FAQ under USAGE there is the question "How do I get those widgets on the screen" where the procedure is described in detail.;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
with mortscript you could "mimic" a click on the start button... ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
If you mean the main professional panel, first you need to change its menubar at least once (even selecting the standard one would do), then you will have it available for changing the background ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Great :) Glad to see that redownloading it fixed the issue :)

.... and of course thanks (and meow from my cat) for the donation :p
[Windows Mobile Themes] powercat1:
In MS settings, I chose to only enable Professional Layouts. The menu button in the lower left for me is the carousel. The menu button in the lower right is the one I believe you are talking about (it shows add widget, edit layout, etc.), and it does not have any option to "Change Background". I read a post on another thread that leads me to believe that I might have to change the fundatela.dat file. Does that sound right?
[Windows Mobile Themes] jotha:
Yes in principle you have to, but the Manager does the work for you ;). Vostradamus has described directly before your last post how it works, in case you haven't seen it:

Info added to FAQ (Usage) :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
I bet you would like to have this kind of info sooner lol :p

But that would not be fun enough ahahah :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] powercat1:
Thank you for the quick response. I now see Vostradamus' post. I think we "crossed in the mail" while I was creating my post and I never moved backwards in the forum. I appreciate your help.
[Windows Mobile Themes] powercat1:
I think we were both posting at the same time. Thanks for the info!
[Windows Mobile Themes] Lucian Stancu:
Question

Hi,

First of all, i want to congratulate you for this great things that you made.:)

Now, I was wondering if you can do something like ckeckboxes for the widget sellection menu, so you can select more widgets you want to activate at a time, because activating one widget at a time takes hours.

And something more (i know there is a preview menu for all the widgets), but can you put into the widget sellection menu all the preview images, for ex.widget name and image under its name, as well as the ckeckbox for each one,(like in the attachment), so you can see if you like what you activate, because even if you preview all of them in the preview menu, you can't possible remember how every single widget looks by the time you step forward to activate the ones you like.

It will be an awsome thing if you will do this! :)

Please, if you can, reply my message also on my e-mail adress if you want "luccimino@yahoo.com" , i am kind of busy right now with my exams, and i don't know if i will have time to check the site to see your reply. Thanks!

Kind regards
[Windows Mobile Themes] jotha:
Unfortunately it is not possible to show the preview images in the selection box. The whole Manager is based on mortscript and mortscript cannot show images. Therefore we need the external picture viewer. Why do you not use the preview on Picasa, reachable via the first post of this thread. There you can see all of the widgets on your PC while activating them.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
All that you suggested would be nice, I know, but the whole MsM is written with mortscript, which can't handle such things... so I'm afraid that I won't be able to do it (unless I decide to rewrite everything using something other than mortscript, but that's currently not likely to happen: time is a tyrant lol) :p
[Windows Mobile Themes] sulster:
You are right!! Sorry -- I read and reread everything (so I thought). Thanks (again)!
[Windows Mobile Themes] carbtvserv:
help

I downloaded and installed vostradamus but my libraries r empty. where do i get a full library? Or am i looking in the wrong place?