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[Desire Android Development] EViollet:
Battery comparison with LeeDroid

Hi all.

After running LeeDroid for a couple of weeks, I decided to switch back to DeFrost because there are a few things that I was missing...

Globally the 2 systems seem quite as responsive. I can't say one is better than the other. However, free RAM is much higher with DeFrost, and that makes a nice speed increase for Launcher Pro that doesn't get killed any more... :)

Also, I get more than 1700 on Quadrant with DeFrost whereas LeeDroid was maxed at 1550... Couldn't get more...

All this led me to believe that DeFrost would be lower on the battery than LeeDroid. And in fact, I don't see that.

I have EXACTLY the same setup (same apps, same configuration, same launcher, widgets, etc) as in LeeDroid. Running 1124@875 with SetCPU, smartass, and same settings as LeeDroid.

During the day, with LeeDroid, CurrentWidget reports between 2 and 5 mAh on idle. With DeFrost it's rather between 4 and 6.

At night, all data off, LeeDroid gives me between 2 and 3 mAh. With DeFrost, it's still between 4 and 6.

I tried recalibrating the battery but it doesn't seem to change anything...

Do these results mean anything? Do I have to wait a couple of days before getting reliable results? I don't understand how a Sense ROM can outperform DeFrost in terms of battery. Quite beats me...

Any ideas?

Regards,
[Desire Android Development] BashyUK:
Hi,

Well, don't want to jinx anything but have had all day yesterday with no issues, lasted 16hrs before needing charge (down to 12%). Which is more drain than i had with Sense ROM but am wanting a good month on this before I can state this as a fact for me. Seems to be the screen eating the battery (display at 69% or so, set to auto brightness) but can live with that as I don't like my screen being dim.

Been running today with no freezes, have done a little browsing with feeds, will have my Angry Birds fix coming up so will see what happens.

The last freeze (noted in my posts above) occurred when I had just updated to SVS 1113 BFS but since I restarted after that, have been fine, perhaps it just needed one more reboot after install...

Noticed a new radio is out, and have seen one person is using on this ROM, any other users? All good? Is the associated RIL out?

All in all, am v impressed with performance, last few Quadrants gave around the 1530+ marks. On the Sense ROM was around 1300's.

I had to buy Pure Grid calendar though, other calendars were terrible compared to Htc's own offering, am v happy to use Tweetdeck as a FriendSteam alternative, don't miss FS at all. However, don't take that as a Sense diss, am v happy at having different viable alternatives available. Happy days.

Oh 6.0a is out...bit extreme with the updating?! Stick to 6 for a week, need stability in my life, unless you say I need to? :-p
[Desire Android Development] cyleo:
I was wondering that too

I don't know if it helps, but i can't say i have. Default config was going to sleep when screen is turned off, and i changed that to never, but i didn't have any problems with either options.
[Desire Android Development] rPAD:
lol, same here R2D2

i'm gonna try it... its gotta work!!!!!!
[Desire Android Development] EViollet:
:)

I didn't spend too much time on it (I'm supposed to be working at my office... ;) ), but if you get it to work, I'd be very glad to give it a try.

I don't see why the functionnality was removed from CyanogenMod though... :(
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
Because its a geek Rom for geeks. Geeks like to flash their.phones whenever they get the urge. R2d2 whilst in the office is a dead give away ;)
[Desire Android Development] ring_GT:
how do i install a custom ringtone for this rom?

I have a ringtones folder on the root of my sd filled w/ mp3 tones.

w/ stock sense those ringtones appear under settings > sound > phone ringtone..

but w/ defrost I cant find the ringtones.

Edit: Never mind. After I rebooted everything showed up.
[Desire Android Development] endursa:
yep :D

back to topic, i really have no lags in launcher pro anymore now that i use 6.0a kernel

but yesterday i had a strange problem, my battery went dead, and when i came home it wouldn't charge anymore :O

good thing was i have a sync station with a second battery slot in it, so i swapped the two, and now things have gone normal again, i don't know exactly what happened but i hope my device is not damaged in any way...
[Desire Android Development] Trustme:
Hmm, I noticed something, running DeFrost 6.0 and I notice when Im charging my Desire phone, at around 85-90% the LED becomes Green (Saying its full) instead of orange (Charging color) ...

Why is this? It should be orange up to 100% I suppose!
[Desire Android Development] BigWhoop:
Is there any site with explanatory notes and pictures for HAVS,Themes,Mods and ROMs implementet in the DeFrost Release? I cant find a page for this project, too.
[Desire Android Development] BashyUK:
Pff, jinxed it :( Phone rebooted when playing AB and listening to music via Winamp (also checked mail). Happened twice in a row. Have flashed 6.0a with 6.0a apps pack. Not flashed 6.0b SVS etc, will see how it goes with it's default kernel, whatever that may be (is showing as 1113 max in SetCPU so will do me).
[Desire Android Development] braaaii:
I have just installed this rom but I cant download any apps from the market.. Can anyone help??

UPDATE: i have already found it.

"I had the very same problem after flashing 2.000.16_EMEA_GEN1. The fix is as simple as it's unexplainable (for me at least).

Just start the Google Talk application for a while and go download your apps"

THX btw for this great rom :D
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
I.think because desire is set on sense roms to drop to 90% if still plugged in for 2 hours after reaching 100% to avoid over charge.

On sense roms, its still green even after dropping to 90.

This has always happened on defrost. It goes green at 90
[Desire Android Development] mozzek:
Led shows orange color up to 89% and green between 90 and 100%.
[Desire Android Development] Marsbar:
Android Agenda FTW!
[Desire Android Development] ajanu:
There is not 1 page or post where all this can be found, no. All rom and kernel info should be on the 1st page of this thread, if it's not it will be when Richard gets time.

Themes all have screenshots somewhere in this thread, you would need to search to find them. The rest should be self explanatory.
[Desire Android Development] Marsbar:
Umm... surely you still need to re-sign it if you modify the zip using a file manager? Otherwise the whole signing process is a bit, erm, pointless.

FWIW I tried modifying the last install with astro and found that when I flashed the ROM it hadn't actually removed the files. Maybe I needed to do something different?
[Desire Android Development] ajanu:
Modifying with astro, no you don't need to re-sign. I have noticed sometimes astro does not actually delete what it says it has. Exit then go back in, ususally works the 2nd time. I don't know why, but it must be an Astro bug.
[Desire Android Development] mastermax12:
Can anyone help me install vpnc on my Desire (Defrost 6.0a) ?

everytime i touch connect my phone has an fc :(

Or is there an Help to install an tun.ko that fits with the defrost kernel?

(Kernel 6.0b HAVS 1113 MHZ 925mV)
[Desire Android Development] justinkb:
Can someone verify http://xda.b42.nl/richardtrip/32.48.00.32U_5.11.05.14.zip is still the recommended radio and this is not an oversight in the opening post? I ask because this is not the most recent radio anymore...
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
I use Astro and its fine. It takes ages though and if you press back whilst it still says "deleting" you have just cancelled the action.

Also, WinRAR on PC. You can open the zip and browse it like a folder on the pc (without extracting) and can delete the apks. When you have deleted, pressing the X closes it like closing an explorer window (so not re-zipping - no signature required.

I've used both methods many times (although slower, mainly Astro now)
[Desire Android Development] richardtrip:
Nice one. Tell me when you think its ready and i can include it in the first/second post (giving you credits).
[Desire Android Development] cyleo:
That's great!

@radio: Radio has just been updated, I think it takes some testing to figure out which one fits this rom best.
[Desire Android Development] deepakoffline:
is there no way to play videos in fullscreen mode like in sense roms? android just plays the actual size videos, but i wish they played in full screen. please help. thank you :)
[Desire Android Development] Latty:
Great post. Hopefully the people that ask the same questions over and over again will read once richardtrip throws it up on the front page.
[Desire Android Development] mwm:
thank you. i'll give 6.0 a try
[Desire Android Development] atomfix:
ATM I think the latest radio is great. My signal has greatly improved but not sure about battery performance just yet
[Desire Android Development] buzmay:
Where is the latest radio is it the one from the front page that is recommended by Richard?
[Desire Android Development] Rickbob:
I'm trying to test the smartass governor but after 5-10min I check setcpu to find its back to ondemand

Anyone else noticed this. Have solution?
[Desire Android Development] fishke:
Richard thnx for this fantastic ROM.

I only have one problem: I can't send file from my netbook to my desire anymore. (using bleutooth) Are there more people having this problem? I'm using the latest radio from the 1st post.
[Desire Android Development] Latty:
Nope. Latest radio can be found here.

After some personal tests (using currentwidget in a -110dBm area, with three radios: the latest, 32.44, and as below), however, I've found that 32.48.00.32U_5.10.05.30 is the best in terms of power draw when idle, and reception-wise too.
[Desire Android Development] atomfix:
Sorry. I should of quoted a link to the latest radio. But it now as been by someone else
[Desire Android Development] buzmay:
I do have this problem also
[Desire Android Development] vofh:
I'm using the latest radio with DF6a and it's working great :D
[Desire Android Development] mark2305978:
Me too, I can't even connect to my car bluetooth.

Can you please check that?

Thanks
[Desire Android Development] cs_sux:
Why flashlight option is not available in sgs-style notification controls settings?
[Desire Android Development] braaaii:
How come that I can't turn my notification light back to the original green.. is this posible or not?

Defrost 6

Latest radio installed
[Desire Android Development] dave7802:
A very good post,

Lag On Launcher Pro i noticed A lot when using LIVE Wallpapers

"I never really noticed it until i used a normal image as a wallpaper

and omg the difference in speed and flow in the animation has made such a difference"
[Desire Android Development] bedeabc:
I'm very pleased with 5.6 and the 998MHz HAVS kernel. Battery life is good and I only have one real issue to speak of... I can't sign into the official Twitter app whatever I do. It never gets past the 'signing in' dialog. Fortunately other Twitter clients work.

Should I wipe before upgrading to 6.0 to try and cure this issue?
[Desire Android Development] 19blacktiger77:
Hi, there is a way to get this menu in a Sense Rom? ( LeeDroid 2.2e)

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=333657&d=1275047786

Thank you very much!:)
[Desire Android Development] redlabour:
1. Use the HAVS 6.0b with 975 Minimum.

2. New Radio works fine.
[Desire Android Development] nht_max:
Could you guys link me to the 6.0b update, please? I'm sounding a little odd, but I can't seem to find it on the 1st page, pointing at the download link only seems to get me the 6.0a, as the url suggests. Probably the file's been mis-named???
[Desire Android Development] faceqt:
Love the rom. I'm one for constant change and I always end up back here, the speed, stability and useability is by far the best. Thanks.
[Desire Android Development] bbk:
HTC Sync works with this Rom ?
[Desire Android Development] EViollet:
Nope.

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[Desire Android Development] BashyUK:
Thx for the reply, however since then I posted again, I flashed 6.0a and have left the kernel (it's 2.6.35.7-defrost-bravo- trip@trip-desktop #1). In SetCPU it shows max 1113. Going to leave it as that for now, see if there are any further issues then try your suggestion if not or if I get stability for a week and feel like tinkering I'll do it.

Waiting for RIL for radio before I flash it. heading over to the thread now...
[Desire Android Development] buzmay:
I am sorry to ask this again, but what is the difference or differences between the recommended radio Richard has at the very first post, and the new ones?

Which one is recommended to use and why?
[Desire Android Development] cezarL:
Each radio has a corresponding RIL (more info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Interface_Layer). The RIL gets included in the build.prop file of the ROM.

The 'recommended' radio is the latest radio for which Richard has included this info in build.prop. This doesn't mean that you cannot use any other radio than the recommended one. I tested the new one (5.11.05.27) and it worked fine with DeFrost, however I switched back to an older one (5.10.05.30), as that one seems to have less power consumption in poor-reception areas. This is rather... user-specific (country + carrier), so I wouldn't recommend anyone to use the radio I use :)
[Desire Android Development] zigson:
I'm using 32.48.33.32U_5.10.5.30, and I've noticed I can get a 3G connection more often than Edge, in comparison to earlier radios. It's pretty minimal though, and I agree with cezarL that there's probably no "one size fits all" answer to which is the best radio.
[Desire Android Development] ring_GT:
what is tun.ko (tunneling) feature in 6.0b kernel?

is that the only difference compared to 6.0a?
[Desire Android Development] cezarL:
6.0a tun.ko was faulty, it was replaced in 6.0b in order to allow VPN connections. And yes, that's about the only change. If you don't use VPN, there's no real reason to upgrade.
[Desire Android Development] buzmay:
Thanks for your answers guys, just one more question that is obvious, but I rather be sure, will this radios make the camera work?
[Desire Android Development] ring_GT:
i read from somebody`s post here that Launcher pro lag can be minimized by VM heap size. I found the option in Cyanogenmod settings already but, what exactly does VM heap size mean? thanks
[Desire Android Development] SENSAATION:
Hi,

Is exist a patch to get HTC sens keyboard with this rom ?

Same question concerning the status bar, to get a black one

Thanks!
[Desire Android Development] ajanu:
HTC keyboard is there. Long press on any text box, you get imput selection, pick HTC.

You can't get a sense notification bar, but under Cyanogen settings-> User Interface there is the option to use a black bar.

Edit: Updated my FAQ. http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=8991400&postcount=14690
[Desire Android Development] SENSAATION:
wow really really excellent rom, all is here!

great work thanks!

concerning the status bar, are you sure we can change it color and not only the notification color's bar ?
[Desire Android Development] braaaii:
Account en Sync is gone after reboot

Great rom. Only when I set up facebook to sync contacts and I am restarting the phone. It is gone from the account & sync menu at options... Does anyone have this problem. Its like the rom doesn't remender the setting of sync setting. Can anyone tell me more what to do so I can solve this...

Is it something with startup settings or my root??
[Desire Android Development] zigson:
I'm not sure if it's Virtual Memory or Virtual Machine? Anyway, it's the max amount of memory which can be used by an app. Mine's set to 32, but I've read that setting it so high can cause slow-down.
[Desire Android Development] cezarL:
Yep! I forgot what the earliest radio version that will allow the camera app to work is, but both the one recommended in the OP here, and the newest one will not have any problems.

It determines the amount of memory allocated to Java VMs, too low a value can cause 'out of memory' errors (and FC's, in our case). Increasing the heap size from 24MB to 32MB seems to help with LauncherPro, which, even if it didn't FC, would be slightly laggy for some (I'm one of those, I switched to 32MB and it's running smoothly now). The kernel might have something to do with it, too, as in earlier versions of DeFrost (below 5.0, for example), LP was smooth with VM heap size set to 24MB.
[Desire Android Development] cezarL:
Just one (minor) observation:

The default kernel is actually SVS 1113, but locked at 998 if SetCPU is not used ;)
[Desire Android Development] St4hli:
Sorry for the noob question, but where do I find a possibility to organize my contacts in groups? in Sense this was implemented by editing a contact :-S

Do I really have to do this on my google mail contact browser or with an app? Or did I miss something?
[Desire Android Development] orgler:
Hi,

Your ROM is really great, thank you.there is just one major thing stock froyo lacks when comparing to htc sense and furthermore when comparing to the iphone: I've to select text from the browser or from other apps quite often to copy them to the clipboard.with sense, there is some magnifying glass that zooms the text I'm currently trying to select.this is much better than with stock froyo, where it's an operation that had to be done almost blind.

Is there any way to solve this issue.that's one of the things implemented in the iphone in a much better way...

Best regards

Orgler
[Desire Android Development] BriEE:
Richard, or anyone that can answer...

You know the Notification widget for power control, I noticed if you hit the WIFI, the mobile data still stays on. With extended controls or power control, the mobile data usually goes off.

Can there be an option like power controls that do a behaviour mode for the wifi/3g/mobile data that if you switch one on, it'll turn off the other and vice versa?

Thanks
[Desire Android Development] xenix1:
Hello i got a problem with the Gallery app when i open it not all thumnails are loaded, just transparent frame's was seen.

Any sugestions for that??
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
This is reflective of the actual state. If you look in settings, both are still ticked when WiFi is on.

The others don't reflect the true state, just which one is the current method used for data transfer.

I only use extended controls though, so this doesn't bother me
[Desire Android Development] fishke:
Nice to know that I'm not the only one having this problem. Could it be possible that a radio update will fix this problem? I'm now using the recomended radio version.
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
Does anyone else get HTC IME mod lag in stock browser?

Or just browser lag in general? Sometimes before I can refresh, I have to move the page first or the menu button does nothing
[Desire Android Development] hajen78:
How did you get that score ? Im geting 1706 :confused:
[Desire Android Development] BriEE:
I'm getting 16xx as well, no where near 1900.
[Desire Android Development] BriEE:
Ah I see, so would there be a future update so it will automatically turn off a function when one is enabled? I don't like how sometimes the mobile data will enable for some reason and use when I'm on WIFI. I don't want to click mobile data and wifi everytime lol
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
...but all roms do this, including HTC Stock roms. If your wifi has a sleep policy set, then mobile data will come back.

Edit> you could buy the application "Tasker" though. That would probably do what you ask.
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
I got 1878 on 6.0 with 6.0a 875 1113 kernel. Couldnt get any higher though
[Desire Android Development] Uqbar:
This nice ROM was keeping me offline with 3G and almost online in 2G. No matter which radio I installed.

As soon as I reverted back to AuraxTSense I have been back online. No matter which radio I installed.

In both cases I have done a complete wipe before installing both the ROM and the radio. Sigh! :-(
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
What about data restore though. Did you do any?
[Desire Android Development] scatterface:
I suspect that wasn't the first result. In my experience, consecutive runs will score higher since some information is loading from the cache. I could be wrong though.
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
Yep. Not only that but the earlier runs "open up" the cpu a little more IMO.

Its got no real world value really though
[Desire Android Development] cezarL:
Damn right :D

I may be getting 1800-1900 scores in Quadrant, but my iGO is still lagging, regardless of the overclocking. 998, 1113, 1190, same thing :( (I assume it's because of the video driver, not the CPU, but... anyway...)
[Desire Android Development] ajanu:
Fixed thanks!

Updated again with formatting. Anything I have missed?
[Desire Android Development] asmaridis:
I never got to ask this question. Is the multi-touch limitation of the Desire a hardware or software issue? I mean how come the device only supports pinching in and out (at most 2 fingers) and not true multi-touch? And is it something developers can work on?
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
Thought I'd give SVS 1190 a go. Performance governer just got 2073 :eek:

In regards to your comment, I wish the desire had a dedicated GPU
[Desire Android Development] BriEE:
Which kernel is that one? I'm using the HAVS 925mV 6.0b one
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
6.0a SVS 1190 + bfs
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
Dunno, but it can be limiting.

Try a head shot in Resident evil on PSX4droid. You need shoulder button to keep the gun out, D pad to angle up and X to fire.
[Desire Android Development] BriEE:
I assume you are using Setcpu and changing it to the bfs mode?
[Desire Android Development] eastonfr:
What is this bfs mode of setcpu and how do you change it to this. Cant see anything in setcpu about this/
[Desire Android Development] richardtrip:
Update:

Version 6.0b:

*CyanogenMod fixes:

-Translations

-MediaProvider: catch OutOfMemoryError when creating thumbnails.

-Adding null check on Cursor c in MediaProvider.getAlbumArtOutputUri

-Make PlaylistBrowserActivity handle missing playlist extras.

-Browser:Add support for Content-Disposition when save link

-System/bluetooth/bludroid:Remove the 3 second delay after starting bluetoothd

-png: Bug fix for artifact seen in Gallery3D path bar

*Updated Gapps
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
Set CPU clocked full. Performance governor. How do you change to bfs mode? Didn't even know it was a mode
[Desire Android Development] BriEE:
Nevermind, I thought BFS was part of the options in "Scaling" on setcpu.

I'm getting confused with SMARTASS govener, which I have absolutely no idea what it does lol.
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
Me too
[Desire Android Development] jnr21:
When you long-press home button -> recent apps. Is it possible to set data on/off via that button. In cyanogenmod settings you can add custom app, but what about mobile data toggle?

sry about my bad english...
[Desire Android Development] ring_GT:
Thanks for clearing that up. When I checked the VM heap size the default was already 32mb!! No wonder my LP was running smoothly. I guess this is set by default on 6.0a rom/6.0a 1113 havs .
[Desire Android Development] pa.pn2:
if i use the equalizer in poweramp and also in mixzing i get a fullcrash and my phone reboots

can someone confirm?

running 6.0 no oc kernel...
[Desire Android Development] ring_GT:
no problems here. I even tried playing w/ the equalizer (poweramp)while music is playing. running 6.0a/6.0a havs 1113 but no overclock
[Desire Android Development] pa.pn2:
maybe the 875 kernel is not good for me^^

i will try the 925 kernel then
[Desire Android Development] onyxogen:
Anyone tried to install FireFox mobile (fennec) beta 2 on defrost 6.0 ? For me there is a reproducible reboot during installation. :-(