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[Nexus One General] xXJay_RXx:
how exactly is it better? an 8MP camera with dual leds?
[Nexus One General] Accused187:
That's where the N1 has an advantage, no required locked in contract. Plus Google can release features through Android which may not have surfaced through a carrier-controlled device (e.g. the mobile hotspot feature in FroYo which I imagine will get killed/regulated by some carriers). Plus the updates are much quicker.
[Nexus One General] Old MuckenMire:
Yeah man if he's going to tell us not to be in denial then the least he could do is explain how the Incredible is better than the Nexus One?
[Nexus One General] :
Nexus has a two point digitizer, Incredible has a 10 point digitizer.

Nexus has a 5 mp camera, Incredible has an 8 mp camera. *

Nexus has a single led flash, Incredible has a double led flash.

Nexus has a standard micro USB port, Incredible has a micro USB port that supports A/V out.

Four things that are better on the incredible. You can't argue that the incredible doesn't have better hardware on those four points.

Evo has a much larger screen, HDMI out PLUS all the perks of the Incredible. Hell they both have FM drivers for full access to the internal hardware!

Don't be blind fanboys.

*the test showing the quality of the pictures is due to software from HTC not being set right, software fixable.
[Nexus One General] vitorjna:
Just check this and forget the ridiculous camera comparison with the Incredible:

h**p://androidandme.com/2010/05/phones/the-incredible-camera-showdown-droid-incredible-vs-nexus-one/

Every Nexus picture looks better, and it looks like the Incredible's 8MP have a huge amount of interpolation.

edit:

When will they fix it? 2011?
[Nexus One General] xXJay_RXx:
who cares?

do you REALLY need dual led? are you EVER going to need that BRIGHT of a picture? im sure dual leds drain more battery than a single led

bro, do you REALLY REALLY REALLY need to plug your phone to the tv? y not buy a) a blue ray player b)get cable c)get tiro d)get an Apple tv for movies, tv shows, youtube. e)get an ipod touch or another portable media player for vids

idk about you guys but i see the ability to plug your phone to your tv. i always have my phone on me. never hooked up to the tv. what if you get a message? u have to stop the video, respond and then play it back. easier to just get one of the above things i said

in reality, the ONLY good point is the touchscreen but im not bothered by it one bit
[Nexus One General] Old MuckenMire:
The idea that any of what you posted makes the Incredible better than the Nexus is purely your opinion(a misguided one I might add)

See, in my world, the Nexus build quality trumps everything you posted.

Nexus wins: so quit being a hater and calling us fanboys
[Nexus One General] ChillRays:
Also, wasn't it already proven that the Nexus One's 5 MP camera was better than the incredible's 8 MP camera????

http://androidandme.com/2010/05/phones/the-incredible-camera-showdown-droid-incredible-vs-nexus-one/

looks like some people need to do their research. :rolleyes:
[Nexus One General] Old MuckenMire:
Oh but he says they'll fix the camera(as if he knows).

Your point is spot on. We're not comparing the Nexus camera to a maybe, someday fixed one on the Incredible. We're comparing the current N1 camera and the current Incred camera.

N1 wins
[Nexus One General] fiuza91:
I love my Nexus One and I don't feel any remorse.

I know innovation is coming really fast, and I'm sure the N1 will be surpassed by another android smartphone sometime, BUT that doesn't make me feel bad or anything - it's just the way technology moves. :)

One of the main reasons I bought my N1 was the fact that I knew it'd be updated faster than any other android phone. And it paid out - we got 2.2 1 day after it was announced (I know it's a test build, but we'll also get the OTA update).
[Nexus One General] ChillRays:
This makes me laugh... Incredible is better than the Nexus One?????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL_yHr9gyQ4#t=3m02s

I thought we were friends.. :(
[Nexus One General] xXJay_RXx:
lol woooow and this was named the "incredible".....yea how incredible is it that u threw so much money at a phone with an unresponsive screen lol

we can still be friends.....when u accept the fact that the Nexus One is still on top of the Android world :)
[Nexus One General] xXJay_RXx:
Lol at "come on man. why wont you unlock? i thought we were friends. i left Sprint for this?" haha
[Nexus One General] ChillRays:
lol yeah.. thats what i was refering to. Jon is very funny in his videos.

I can't wait to hear what others have to say to that video. "They are going to fix that through updates you idiot". Duhhhh
[Nexus One General] temperbad:
I like how these reviewers boast the 8mp camera as better than the n1s 5mp, but test show the N1 takes sharper and better pics over the incredible .lol

And now we got froyo so take that. Sounds like the Evo is getting the attention cause its new, the incredible is getting ignored and the n1 is getting froyo attention ....
[Nexus One General] Eclair~:
I think they are all great devices, and I will be happy with my Nexus until Google releases the next "true" Google phone. As long as this Nexus gets the latest Android release, I will be happy for quite some time.
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
the incredible and evo are just not substantial enough jumps in features to make me want to get rid of my nexus one. first of all the nexus is better build quality and better looks and materials than both those phones. but even though they have slightly newer/better features, its only by a tiny bit. the nexus is virtually the same on all fronts, or close enough. then factor in the superb build quality of the nexus, and the nexus is actually my pick as best out of all 3.

if someone gave me a free evo or incredible, i would sell it and buy a nexus one. that's my opinion on the matter.
[Nexus One General] chromiumcloud:
That's why probably half of us are contract free or utilizing other contracts. I always have the, gasp, iPhone to go back to should I want to. But the Nexus is great for traveling. Took mine to Japan a couple months ago and the savings from the Japanese sim more than made up for it compared to AT&T's locked iPhone garbage.

Amen to that!

I would like to add, who is watching streamed vid's from CBS, Fox, and hulu? Yeah, that's what I thought. ;)
[Nexus One General] britoso:
I dont see any reason why you say tose phones have "leapfrogged" the nexus.

Google is just trying to support its partners by being as unbiased as possible.

Except for the network specific 4G speed, the N1 beats the pants of the Evo and Incredible.

n1 Pros:

1) better camera (than the incredible in tests)

2) trackball

3) trackball LED

4) noise cancellation

5) non-sense :)

6) easy to unlock.
[Nexus One General] Buck Shot:
check this out if u havent seen it. This guy did a pretty good experiment on the Nexus One and Incrdible cameras . N1>

+ the Incredible hasnt even been rooted yet. N1 was rooted first week, maybe even earlier to release I think

http://androidforums.com/nexus-one/...a-showdown-droid-incredible-vs-nexus-one.html
[Nexus One General] jasrups:
I love the HD out capability of the Evo but really thats about it, still lovin my Nexus
[Nexus One General] attn1:
Agreed. Author of that article is an asshat.

Agreed. Author of that article is an asshat.

Agreed. Author of that article is an asshat.

This is like a one answer patterned response drill.

Pavlov - DING!! Asshat!!
[Nexus One General] mortzz:
Which isn't an issue unless you use games. It's a complete non-issue for people who, you know, use their smartphones as tools not toys.
[Nexus One General] attn1:
Of all of those things, none will matter much in day to day operation of a smartphone.

Yes, technically, the Evo and incredible have somewhat evolved hardware. But the Desire/Incredible/Evo still have the same horsepower, and their tech specs nudge just ahead of the N1, which is still very comparable. I am not sure how you define leapfrogging, but that's not it in my book.

I don't like the Sense UI. I don't like the trackpad.

I like Froyo. I like blinky, well resolving trackballs. I like the Moto Droid/Nexus One pure android experience that doesn't make it look like some lame-assed HD2 running Win-mo and that does clearly demonstrate a different, better way to do things.

In my mind, the Nexus One is still the clear winner, even if the wanker technobloggers just want to look at a couple of spec sheets and get carried away like a bunch of little girls who just discovered a new flavor of ice cream, fanboy.
[Nexus One General] attn1:
I think the Desire uses the same touchscreen technology as the Nexus One. I don't that changed until the Incredible/Evo. I doesn't matter much (for my use anyway) especially in Froyo. The touchscreen seems to be much better behaved, to me anyway.

Hey, I like that! The Nexus one has non-Sense! That's a good thing!
[Nexus One General] VaKo:
Personally, I would have liked a Droid/Milestone with the N1 software and a snapdragon rather than the Nexus One. While the N1 is the best phone I've owned, ever, I like the asthetics of the Droid/Milestone more (soviet kitsch lol), it just has a slower CPU, isn't supported by Google, and the UK version is locked down. Can't have everything though, so I went for the N1 purely because of the software updates.
[Nexus One General] attn1:
I am already laughing, because if that's HTC's schedule, when FroYo comes to Incredible owners they are going to want to say "neener". But just just as they get out "Nee" they are going to have to gulp and say "OMG - Nexus One has Gingerbread!"
[Nexus One General] :
You guys are ridiculous. I love the fact I cant tinker with the nexus more than the other phones, but for anybody else, superior hardware wins out.

Justify all you want with "I wouldn't use it anyways so I don't want it", but the nexus is the bottom tier of HTC's snapdragon's lineup spec wise.

I'll concede one point, the nexus has a 1400 mah battery while the incredibly has a 1300mah, but then the evo has a 1500 mah. hah.
[Nexus One General] verboten:
With the way smartphones are progressing, by the time Gingerbread is out, there just may be phones that are actually better than the Nexus. But, it would have to take a bump in CPU and GPU for that to really happen. Until then, The Nexus will remain the top Android phone. IMO! :cool:

Agreed.
[Nexus One General] demandarin:
ill pit my Tilt 2 rhodium against whateva. lol people are playing exactly into the hands of the manufacturers. there will always be somethin new out. always be something more powerful coming. i cant believe people up here trying to trash the nexus one. regardless if its the bottom tier..its still SNAPDRAGON. get over it. i can name something thatll blow that, the incredible, and evo away.........................n ima get it as soon as it drops. dat mutha$&&n Dell Streak 5 Tablet PC....it has 5 in Capacitive screen with multitouch, Android os..froyo comin to it, dual cam for video conferencing, 16gb internal memory, micro sd card up to 32gb, newest bluetooth, wifi,

sleek design , and guess what 3g connectivity. its a fully fledged Tablet PC thats also a phone. coming to at&t this summer/september. with the latest snapdragon processor thats amped up........So how bout dem Apples? lol i like the nexus one...if my tilt 2 can hold it own, so can a nexus one with basically twice the processing power. u can have the most powerful phone but dont mean ish..lol..if u dont have it customized right.

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[Nexus One General] xXJay_RXx:
or maybe the Nexus Two :eek:
[Nexus One General] martin0285:
anyone mention ah..... "Fastboot oem unlock" ??? By far best thing about the nexus!!!
[Nexus One General] SBERG117:
Honestly every phone being talked about is a good phone. I have a N1 and wouldnt trade it for anything. But i have played around with a droid and incredible and both were fun in their own way. I liked my N1 better but i didnt mind either of the other phones. My biggest like about the N1 is im contract free with tmobile and i get updates before everyone else being googles "Pride and joy" phone. LOL.

Ok i like all the cool graphics and everything else the N1 offers eye candy wise as well. My point being is ANDROID as a whole is really doing good things. Everyone will be happy in the long run. :D:D:D:D
[Nexus One General] subramanianv:
After reading through the posts last couple of days, it seems Nexus One scores big because of its unrestricted OS capabilities and direct tie with google for OS updates, unlike other HTC phones waiting for HTC to provide it. And there it solves its purpose.

Google wanted us to have a complete mobile experience without any artificial restrictions imposed by the Equipment manufacturers and mobile service providers. Nexus One does just that. It is a success for Google.

Now Google's webstore is a disaster for them and that should not be tied to N1. They should make N1 available in retail stores. Imagine getting N1 on a blackfriday sale for 300 bucks with a carmount. It is an electronic gadget, it should be available in market like any other gadget. I wish Google doesn't give up on it yet and go ahead with its step 2. An N2 for the holidays would be an ultimate reward.

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[Nexus One General] rockky:
I absolutely loooove my rooted N1.... I've also played with both the Incredible and Evo...and as they are right now....I'd prefer either...Incredible by a little, Evo by much more over the Nexus.

Big DEAL....doesnt hurt me to say that.

Still love the Nexus.

Will undoubtedly get the Evo June4. if within 30 days I don't have full root, have STRONG indication from Sprint that Froyo is immanent and, have 4G 75% of the time or more here in Chicago....I'm returning it.
[Nexus One General] walie:
Cripes, the way you fanboys defend the nexus one makes you almost as bad as iphone fanboys

seriously.

technology never stops moving forward, no need to ridicule any other phone that threatens your precious n1
[Nexus One General] mortzz:
Oh, please. We're just discussing an article that pens the Nexus One as a speak and spell when compared to two phones with nearly identical hardware.

Nobody is as bad as iPhone fanboys.
[Nexus One General] zippa71385:
all i can say is ginger baby...

Google said 3.0 is due out when the incredible and evo get 2.2 not to mention new phones that will stock have 3.0 for Christmas Im sure... I dropped 600 on the nexus to have the first real phone since dial tone... im not afraid to do it again when we get another "nexus" come Q4 this year... and by nexus I mean number one! It was the first of its kind, so its automatically better, and all was based from it... so yeah the evo and incredible are better than the N1 because the N1 was so bad ass they took it and made it better with two new names! lol :D
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
See I just don't get that. I've played with the incredible about 15 times now and the nexus one wins every time for me cause of the build quality and better materials. If that makes me a fanboy then oh well but the nexus is so far above and beyond in sexiness and looks that its no contest. And because the specs are so similar its a no brainer. That's not trying to justify anything, that's just the reality of my opinion. I don't have to justify to make myself better. It's just the way I see it.

Sure, when a 1.5 gHz CPU comes along and I'm defending the nexus, then there's a problem. But between the nexus, incredible and evo, they're all within 95% of each other in specs. Add in build quality, looks, and direct Google tie-in, and I'll take the nexus one every time. Seems pretty simple to me.
[Nexus One General] Manacit:
I haven't read the last 7 pages, but I'll share my opinion anyway.

I really don't care about a few extra megapixels on the camera. At all. I barely use it, and when I do, the Nexus camera works really well (I'm told it works better then the Incredible Camera, so much for that..). I don't think I've ever used video recording on my Nexus, so I don't think I'll miss 720p video recording either.

As for the screen size, I don't think I really want a screen the size of the EVO/HD2. I used one, and I just don't think it could fit in my pocket, my nexus barely does in some of my pants, something even wider would probably have a lot of problems..

The only thing I would really like is to see a better touch sensor like the Incredible has, I'll admit that I'm jealous of that, but pinch to zoom and stuff like that works, so I'll just deal with it (there's no chance of me switching to Verizon anyway, so it's a moot point).

SenseUI is stupid, I like stock Android better, and being the first phone to get 2.2/3.0 is really really awesome, I'd happily have that over SenseUI.

I also heard that the HDMI out in the EVO was horrible, and I would NEVER use that, EVER. I've used HDMI out on my netbook once the whole time I've had it, I just don't feel the need to plug my phone into a tv.

Personally, I have no buyers remorse, the Nexus is built like a tank, which I haven't heard about any other devices, it's the first to get updates, it's got the same processor that all of the top end phones have (seriously, there's been no improvement since the Snapdragon came out) and the same amount of memory. There's really no huge upgrades other then camera/touch sensor/screen size that have come out since the Nexus.
[Nexus One General] jonnybueno:
Lolz... you guys are funny. I have a nexus as well as an incredible.

There are pros and cons to both, and I like them both. I never spend time thinking about which is better cause they both rock.

I love the soft touch feel on the nexus, but prefer the glossy face on the incredible... I also like that the front of the phone is so flat. I hate the back of the incredible, nexus feels better in my hand.

Camera quality is good on both. If I need something better I'll probably just get a camera.

6.6 gb of internal storage is nice , but not really that useful.

The touch screen on the incredible is much more responsive than my nexus. It doesn't have any issues at all under any circumstances.

Hacking my nexus is fun, but out of the box, incredible is more complete for my smartphone needs and you cant beat Vzw reception where I live.

So in conclusion, who cares? Id get an iPhone if I wanted one too.
[Nexus One General] attn1:
Nothing like ratcheting up a debate with name-calling, asshat.
[Nexus One General] ChillRays:
is that like a hat that you can wear on your ass? :confused:

:D
[Nexus One General] JHaste:
Ok, the way i see it is most of the features on the incredible/evo are flashy extras... video out, regardless of what form it is in may be nice but realistically i do not see myself using it a lot other than maybe in my classroom to show videos to the kids since i wont have to deal with the school's firewall...

bigger screen is nice but i am a guy, i dont have a purse to be stashing my big ass mobile media center around in... my nexus slips right in my pocket and is not a burden in any way shape or form...

Any person who thinks the incred/evo have better build quality is just plain ignorant... case closed cuz the nexus is a tank

Trackball... obsolete technology or possibly the N1's greatest feature? Personally i have grown so used to the thing that i pity any fool who has to use that optical tracker crap... LED color notifications are amazing... i have one universal ringtone for all my notifications and i can just feel the vibrate and i know what sort of message i then have by checking the color of the trackball... Trackball wake is something that is killing me to be without since I am on Froyo... again, sorry optical sensor guys but "old tech" still rules... and an underrated feature of the trackball is accuracy of clicking on things or scrolling through stuff, really handy in tight spots... And keep in mind, while I use my trackball, i do not use it to the extent that it is going to look like a blackberry trackball which those tend to look like they got rolled in snot after a few months because they are used for EVERYTHING

another feature that is quite underrated is the native docks... I dont have the desktop dock but im tempted to purchase it but i do have the car dock and the thing is awesome! it beats the heck out of any clip + power adapter

what the general public doesnt realize is the extent of modding and customization android has to offer via custom roms and kernel tweaks, ect... I know this because I see almost all droid users still running 2.0 and even some oldschool g1 users still running stock roms and even some old ones...

The N1 has HUGE dev support and the openness of the device, its ability to root easily and have super user access with, all of google's official coding is pretty much done "for" the nexus one... this phone is the Mecca of modifiable phones

On the flip side of the coin, i do wish i had a higher quality touch screen... i do enjoy playing games from time to time and the touch quality on the N1 is mediocre at best... i am really hoping there may be a hard mod that comes out where we can install new touch sensors but that is just a dream at this point :P

overall i love the phone... doubt i would trade it for anything else on the market right now simply because of the versatility it has and the build quality

my2cents
[Nexus One General] AndyBurns:
Desire and N1 are very close, but not literally the same

N1 has noise cancelling microphone

N1 has pins for desk/car docks

N1 receives android releases quicker direct from Google

N1 has triband 3G (only of use if you travel to AWS areas such as USA and can afford data roaming!)

Desire has extra 64MB RAM (I keep half expecting someone to find this exists on the N1, or find it doesn't really exist on Desire and is just an "accounting fix")

Desire has optical trackpad instead of trackball.

Desire has physical back/menu/home/search keys.

Desire has SenseUI (matter of preference, but it does have better copy/paste).
[Nexus One General] K69:
Im very happy with my N1.

If theres a new phone in the next months thats interesting for me, ill sell my N1 and get it.

I never bought phones with a contract. And even if i have a contract, what detains me selling it and buy a new phone?
[Nexus One General] StuNNaNyC:
I was going to terminate my T-Mobile contract which ends in Oct to jump over to Sprint for the EVO. I'm glad I didn't. I found a mint N1 on craigslist for 300USD. I love this phone!! With the rate that these high end phones are coming out, it wouldn't shock me that by October something way better will be out.
[Nexus One General] K69:
I thought the EVO uses the same frequencies as the N1!?

Cant you use the EVO on the T-Mobile Network?
[Nexus One General] Jasonator:
Remember when Nvidia announced their mobile phone 3 or 4 years ago at the CES? It ran the Snapdragon......I was drooling all over myself....as I am sure you were too....now we have it. Some are content while others "want more." Marketing...pure and simple is the reason behind this. It is the reason we all "want more."

Nexus one had like 1 commercial, sold 80,000 in the first week...compare that to Apples sales figures over a million in the first 3 days....So to recoup that money of course Google is going to help put other phones out and market them better and make it more appealing to Soccer Moms and Dads..."look at my son at the b-ball court on hd video on my tv!" but for us who know better we own the originator, not the imitator...

I doubt Googles intention was use our device as the test platform but things happen, companies evolve beyond the foreseeable future and these are the cards we are dealt. Processing power is now a numbers game and the guys behind it are going to end up in a war like Intel and AMD...Nvidia and ATi....but thats good for us in 5 years, our phone is going to be faster than our laptop and use less resources. I would love to ave Android (I know its Linux) but true android on my PC....(Macs go to hell!) This is my rant.
[Nexus One General] safeplayer22:
I agree, but when they get froyo. we'll have gingerbread (maybe the leak)...hahaha