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[Desire General] Chriso4772:
Hey Guys I had the same problem for about 2 weeks.

I finally worked a way around using two version of the tiny core etc. If you need I can upload the ISO and the instructions when I get home from work which i used to get me around the red Triangle.
[Desire General] ewor:
That would be brilliant, thanks.
[Desire General] franklinvv:
Looks like you didn't get root privileges after all?
[Desire General] i6bazar:
Is it safe to restart from step1 ?
[Desire General] i6bazar:
Fixed my problem by using the TinyCoreLinux image.
[Desire General] Chriso4772:
Hello,

Please see link below containing the Tinycore ISO used.

docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B60KNSPZgqZ9NDNkZDRjYjgtMDQ2NS00ZWMxLTg2YWYtOTc5ZDBmYjkxNzgw&hl=en

Simply use the ISO attached and follow the instructions from androidforums.com/all-things-root-desire/78118-modaco-r4-htc-desire-rooting-tinycorelinux-download-guide.html

Best of luck.
[HD2 General] Cret:
I've always read the thread about battery life problems on here thinking "Thank **** mine doesn't have that problem" - luckily since I bought mine in December the battery has been quite impressive really.

But a few days ago it suddenly started losing power VERY fast. I'm talking about 10%/hour even on standby, so I undid changes I'd made recently and it made no difference.

Then I read through loads of other threads on here from people who had poor battery life on their phones to look for clues/solutions.

It seems that the responses are (understandably) fairly consistent, eg:

check for stuff running in task manager

remove changes recently made to the phone/uninstall recently added apps

make sure your data/wireless etc isn't doing stuff it shouldn't be

turn off automatic updates

turn down the screen brightness

check activesync

do a hard reset

upgrade your radio rom

etc

All of these of course make sense and are useful suggestions, but it seems there are a good few cases where doing these things don't help, ie you check out the different potential causes and none appear to be responsible. And in the case of sudden poor battery performance you can't point the finger at the rom/screen brighness/auto updates if they are only doing the same as they have been for ages without issue.

So is there a genuine case for the batteries just suddenly 'going weak'?

I've resorted to a hard reset on mine last night after assuming something had got corrupted hence why I could not find the cause of the sudden battery weakness.

But it hasn't helped - it's still dropping approx 10% each hour while on standby, even on a basic install, without even all the apps I normally have.

To me therefore it logically has to mean a failing battery if a hard reset does not help - or can anyone argue why that might not be true? The only exception I can think of realistically is a hardware fault with the phone.

Have ordered a new standard one anyway, and a hicap 'bulge' battery, so I'll post up if the new one cures it. Quite a few battery threads seem to have no conclusion, so ultimately they're not all that helpful in those cases.

How many other people have had issues like this where the battery life has rapidly gone downhill and a new battery has solved the issue?

Also, has anyone done any tests on their 'dodgy' batteries to see if they are indeed going bad or if it's the phone at fault? For instance (really basic I know) if I were to hook up a light bulb to the battery and measure how long it lasts before it goes dim, then compare it to the results from a new battery, would that be worth trying?

If that's the case it's p1ss poor that a state of the art phone can't even go 6-7months before the battery is junk!

I understand and appreciate that li-ion cells only have a certain number of charge cycles (like most rechargeables) but this takes the cake!

My old XDA orbit is years old, still has its original battery, and that has not deteriorated by any noticeable amount, so these shouldn't either.
[HD2 General] elyl:
See: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=688496

and let me know if the new battery fixes the problem. I think the batteries might be crap and prone to failing early.
[HD2 General] Cret:
Thanks for the link - sounds exactly the same as my issue.

Hopefully the new battery packs will sort it but that's shocking quality control or product design/testing if these are failing so quickly.
[HD2 General] Enchanter:
change , Toshiba Tg01 , its better , im using 2 of thems , hd2 and Tg01

made by Japan is better than Taiwanese , ;)
[HD2 General] wilcovh:
Yeah right. But that has not solved the problems with the 6 month old phone.

What i have not read in the post of Cret is that you took the memory card out and see if that improves battery life. a corrupt file on the memory card causes a huge drain.

try because that also happenns suddenly e.g. after been connected to a computer and not disconnecting properly.
[HD2 General] Cret:
That's a damn good point actually - thanks. I had seen that mentioned in other battery threads yet somehow completely forgot to try it.

I will try and see whether it makes any difference - cheers.

If that should turn out to be the cause of the problem how do you resolve it?

To elaborate - I don't imagine you can easily identify which file would be the culprit, without formatting the card and adding the files back one by one and testing for the fault to re-appear. That's totally impractical, almost impossible with the number of files you can fit on a 16gb card, and the time it would take to carry out that process, so what do you do?

Or is it possible that simply copying them off the card, formatting it, and pasting them back would somehow resolve the issue.

How pointless.:rolleyes:
[HD2 General] elyl:
Doesn't this usually result in filesys.exe spiking up to 100% (or just high) CPU usage, though? It isn't doing this on mine, although I'll give it a shot without the SD card. I would expect better battery life without an SD card in anyway, but nothing dramatic.

Cret, let me know if your new battery sorts the problem so I know to buy one myself!
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
the battery do this only a the begining but after 6 monthes of use it becomes better day after day
[HD2 General] elyl:
What are you talking about? Again, you enlighten a thread with useless information. You can clearly see the OP has had the phone for 6 months (as have I) and the battery is failing (as is mine).

Plus, your battery must defy the laws of physics if it gets better day after day. Interesting.
[HD2 General] wilcovh:
What you can try is put the memory card in a card reader and run checkdisk on the card. see if that identify's any problems on the file system

beside of that it seems that the HD2 has problems with 16GB cards, at least quite a few of them. read through the posts.
[HD2 General] ephestione:
Id suggest to collect more data about the problem.

The program BattClock lets you check the battery drain in mA. A normal drain for the HD2, with no processes keeping the CPU awake, is 4mA in standby, with only the radio being powered to receive calls.

So, since the battery current value isn't update instantly, right after you wake up form stanby battclock should be showing 4mA (max6-7mA or something lik that) fora few seconds. If that's not the case, and if the drain is way higher than that, then it may be the case that the phone for some strange reasons is draining more current than it should, and it's not a real battery fault.
[HD2 General] pckshd:
I had a similar issue, solved it by disabling auto backlight. Set it at 30% and all good since then.
[HD2 General] Cret:
Well, I thought there had been a slight improvement over the weekend with this battery issue but this morning on standby the phone dropped 3% in a matter of 5 or 10 minutes on standby.

So I removed the mcirosd card and in nearly 3 hours since then it has dropped another 4%. That's a big improvement and does hint that the card is the fault, but it's too early to be sure about that. I've put the card back in to see if it begins to drop fast again. If so I'll take it out for longer and monitor it again.

Good idea. I wasn't aware that the phones had problems with cards this size. What about with 32gb ones (not that I can afford one!)?

I did use battlog briefly, but just to keep an eye on the current current amount in use and it was fluctuating a lot just with the phone awake but running no apps. Sometimes it after waking it the phone would show a low figure like you quote but other times not.

I haven't checked batlog out fully in terms of what it's capable of, but what would be great would be an app that can log the current use like that does, but at the same time also log a list of which processes/services/applications are running, then that could REALLY give some useful info.

Eg the log shows normal current use, then spikes upwards when a specific process begins to run.
[HD2 General] ephestione:
make a request for this feature in battclock's thread ;)

The author seems to be quite open to useful suggestions (I, among others, suggested the log-to-txt feature :))
[HD2 General] Cret:
Would be a good idea - I like BattClock I must admit. Nice to have the taskbar info like it does.

Ok, later on in the day, it's worked out that it's used 35% battery in approx 3.5 hours of standby - pretty horrendous. Equates to about 10.5 hours (very roughly) battery life on standby. I've checked periodically during this 3.5 hour period and the drop has been steady.

With the card removed, it went 3 hours and only lost 4%, meaning approx 77 hours of standby time at that rate.

Quite a difference between the two.

So at this point it very much looks like there is a fault relating to the memory card.

I'll try some testing tonight. Mainly that will mean I'll first do a filesystem test as suggested. Then delete all the media files, cut the remainder of files and paste them elsewhere, format the card then paste them back, and see how it then behaves.

So it seems now that buying new batteries (and almost slagging off the HTC one) was slightly hasty, but they'll still be really useful, so I'm not at all bothered about that.
[HD2 General] elyl:
Try putting the blank card in, with nothing on it. Would be interesting to see how much juice it draws just having a card in there without reading anything from it.
[HD2 General] Grizli Piprim:
I have the same issue.

My HD2 worked like a charm, only around 12% battery drain in 24 hours (I could carry it around on standby for one week before recharging).

Now - it sucks around 3% per hour. After one day, I'm at around 25% charge :eek:

At first I thougth this was related to Co0kie's Home Tab, but even after hard-reseting, it still drained battery as hell.

At the moment I'm running it without memory card (4GB Kingston) to see if this might be the issue...
[HD2 General] elyl:
I've run a CHKDSK on my memory card just in case, but the filesystem's fine. Any update, Cret?
[HD2 General] Cret:
Well, I'm sure mine was caused by the card, or at least a fault that related to it (ie possibly a file rather than the card itself).

Since I removed the card the battery life returned to normal, so I formatted it, and then copied some of the content back onto it again. It has been back in the phone for a little while now and has been behaving quite well. Basically for instance it's at 77% now at 10.30pm after being removed from the charger around 8am. I haven't used the phone much except to check emails a few times, read a few texts, and go online a couple of times/read RSS feeds a little.

So I'm fairly happy with that.

BUT - not having had the chance to use the phone much (ie mess about) since I formatted the card, I just found that the phone thinks there is no card inside it at the moment for some reason!

I removed it and the PC can read the card and its contents no problem but the phone cannot see it. The only reason I can think of for this is that I formatted the card as NTFS instead of Fat since it's meant to give faster performance, but is it possible that the phone itself does not support this format?

Since it's not working at the moment I'll have to try wiping it and changing it back to fat again. :(

Yes I have tried rebooting it also.

Next thing is th double size replacement battery I bought arrived the other day. The battery fits ok but the replacement cover that came with it does not fit properly at all. :(

The cover clips in ok on the side of the volume buttons, but no matter what I do it just hangs loose on the opposite side so I can't actually use the bloody thing since the battery will just fall out like this. Really not happy at all about this.

This is the one I bought:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Extended-2400...eBatteries&hash=item5d2925ce91#ht_1862wt_1137

I think I will be trying to return this for a full refund since there appears to be a design flaw. Normally I would attempt to make something like this fit properly myself but if I failed then I'd have a piece of junk that I could neither use nor return so I think better just to return it without messing about.

It's a shame as the cover actually looks like it should fit perfectly, and seems to fit very well, it's just that it fails completely to latch in place on one side, as if the clip bit is not long enough perhaps.

What concerns me slightly at the moment
[HD2 General] Cret:
Just reformatted the card as Fat instead of NTFS and loaded my files back on and it works now.

So I'll update in due course once I've been using it loaded up again.
[HD2 General] elyl:
23% in 2 and a half hours - were you not getting better than that previously? I would normally be down about 10% or less if it was just on standby.
[HD2 General] Cret:
I don't think you've actually read my post accurately.... ;)
[HD2 General] wilcovh:
@cret

Good that you have found the problem to be the card, nuisance though. for formatting there are quite a few apps around like sdformatter or can do it in the phone. this makes sure that the card is formatted correctly
[HD2 General] Grizli Piprim:
I can confirm your observations, Cret.

When I removed my card, the battery drain returned to normal. During 12 hours I have lost only 6% with the phone on standby (didn't touch it at all).

Once I inserted my 4 GB card, it wasted around 6% in two hours (as earlier). Only problem is: I reformated the card yesterday and the only things I put back on were some CAB-Files from some apps.

It seems like the problem is related to the memory card, but I can't figure out where the problem is located exactly. At the moment I have several things in my mind:

1) Problem/incompatiblity with 4GB SDHC-Cards from KINGSTON (no problem at all with 2GB Kingston).

2) The RSS Reader saves his data on the storage card.

3) My photos are saved to storage card (although there are none at the moment as I didn't copy them back yet).

4) Since I had no micro SDHC cardreader here, I connected the phone and chose "the card reader"-option from the Active Sync menu on the phone (I have the german one here, don't know exactly how this option is called in English - the memory card is simply being reported as a DRIVE in Windows after chosing this option). Maybe the card gets corrupted when being filled this way...

I think the problem might be related to the 4GB card. I have used a 2GB card (supplied with the phone) and there were no problems at all. Maybe it is related to the the connection type when connecting with ActiveSync (so some data is getting corrupt). I got myself a brand new 8 GB SDHC Card from SAN DISK and so far there is no drain with this card (it's empty at the moment).

I will investigate further and report if I can find the problem...
[HD2 General] Cret:
Good stuff mate.

My own suspicion is that it's not the card itself at fault but data on it that has been corrupted somehow.

I've been using this 16gb sandisk card for many months now with no problem, so in general terms I am quite confident that the HD2 is perfectly fine with these cards.
[HD2 General] skyp:
i have same problem with discharging battery about 10 %per hour after i play music from sd card.i took out my battery and everything get back to normal
[HD2 General] elyl:
:eek:

Come on man, 12hr clock's so outdated! :D
[HD2 General] BumAround:
Nonsense, everything is offshored to China these days, even the once Japan-made ones. :D
[HD2 General] Grizli Piprim:
Soooo...

My HD2 uses the new SDHC card now. My conclusion so far:

- when running without memory card, battery drain is around 0.5% per hour (which is around 8 days standby)

- when running with a 2GB microSD storage card, battery drain is still 0.5%

- when running with a 8GB micro SDHC storage card, battery drain is 1% per hour (that's 100% more which is pretty much actually, standby around 4 days)

- when running with a probably corrupt memory card (4GB micro SDHC), battery drain is around 3% (which is 500% more :eek: standby is a little more than one day), in some cases battery drain may rise even higher (see experience of other users)

So the problem is related to the storage card. Only question in this case: Whose fault is it? Is it Microsoft with WM 6.5 or is it HTC with sh**ty firmware? Why the hell should a phone require the double amount of power only when a storage card is inserted?

If YOU have a problem with huge battery drain:

1) Make sure no app is running in the background. Remove storage card, restart the phone, see if battery drain returns to normal. If so, then

2) Backup your data, format your storage card and insert it into your phone. If battery drain is still normal (or max 2 times more than previously), then

3) Copy your files back to storage card and see if battery drain still remains low.

If you found this thread while searching for the ultimate answer on "HTC HD2 battery drain", then please give a brief info on your configuration. I'll start:

Phone: HTC HD2

OS-Version: 5.2.2.21869 (21869.5.0.82)

ROM-Version: 1.66.407.1 (76641) GER

ROM-Date: 01/11/10

Storage card: Kingston micro SDHC 4GB

I will continue looking into the draining battery. Even though my phone's drain has been reduced to 1/3, this still is too much. When using my old 2GB card, the drain was around 1/6 (used it for three months, then switched to 4GB). Maybe I can slow down the discarging process by activating the "energy saving" option in HDtweak.
[HD2 General] :
After 2 weeks ...

well, since i got my new HD2 in april, i was using it every day. impressed about the functionality and battary life compared to my htc touch.

but one day, it started a sudden drop in battery life ): in about 3 hours i lost 80% according to the battery indicator^^ thing in the right up corner... then the phone freezed at about 5% and i was unable to reset it with the red-reset button in the back.

i put out the battery and wonder-oh-wunder, at home i tried to charge it... tried to! nothing, no respone.

i was able to start the HD2 without battery, but it always begun to reset... with battery it didnt start anymore...

brouhgt it to HTC support and tomorrow i'll get it back!

according to the service report, the battery damaged the main platine, which was replaced...

hopefully, your hd2's havent this hardware issue!
[HD2 General] Grizli Piprim:
The energy saving option in HDtweak does not change anything. Battery drain is at around 25% per day at the moment. Looks ok so far.
[HD2 General] Richy99:
i was having issues with the battery draining quicker than it should have, i ended up hard resetting as i think there was an application running causing it but i couldnt figure out which one. its now back to what it should be with regards to losing strength
[HD2 General] Grizli Piprim:
Hey, I've got some good news.

After I bought the SanDisk 8GB card, the battery drain was like 1% per hour. Yesterday, all of a sudden, I could not access the card anymore - neither from the phone nor from the PC. Seems like it's dead.

So I went out and bought a new card from a different brand, "CN memory" this time, 16GB. Battery drain is now approx 0.5% per hour which is like it was before.

So the problem is really related to the memory card you use.
[HD2 General] pholad:
Htc hd2 battry drain (storage card )

I have the same problim when i remove my 16 gb sandisk card it lose only 20percent in 24hours wiht some calles but with storage card in its losese almost 40% in 12houres with using the phone at all.

So there is some problem wiht sandisk storage card
[HD2 General] Cret:
I can confirm that there is definitely something wrong with the card I was using when I had this problem.

I used the same 16gb card in my SLR this week, and it didn't properly record all the photos even though it had been formatted.

The photos were actually there, bu the table of contents or something was messed up as I had to use photorec to recover them off the disk. So the card definitely has a fault!
[HD2 General] pholad:
Hi dear

can you tell me the exact name of your memory card that you bought ( cn memory card) couse im trying to find it but cant. Thank you im here in canada
[HD2 General] pholad:
hi dear can you please tell me the full name of your new card (cn memory card) thanks
[HD2 General] Cret:
Was labelled as Toshiba but no idea if it's a real one or fake. Held a full 16gb so it may have been a genuine tosh one that just developed a fault.

Is there a utility (not just formatting) to help restore to health an SD card?
[Android Apps and Games] ZOMBII MATT:
Is there anyway to port the Motoblur widgets to phones that dont have motoblur?
[Android Apps and Games] BigD18t:
you could try extracting them from a motoblur rom and putting the apk on your phone, then installing from linda or astro.
[Android Apps and Games] evilkorn:
Can't be done for the same reason the Sense widgets can't be ported.
[Android Apps and Games] ZOMBII MATT:
and that reason is what?
[Android Apps and Games] otto888:
1. They need the MotoBLUR framework,which WILL slow down the phone,trust me. A CLIQ flies on a stock 2.x ROM. and the Framework will only work on the ROM its was made for

2. Who wants that battery sucker?
[XPERIA X10 General] bmw-boy:
Dear All

kindly i just receive my X10 yesterday and i need to transfer my contacts SMS from my Touch pro 2 or my blackberry bold 9000 to my X10

please i need your help
[XPERIA X10 General] onuris21:
SIM card transfer... Google contacts transfer....
[XPERIA X10 General] ukon:
I would recommand that you syn your Touch pro 2 phone with google via active sync.

the server adress is: m.google.com

the rest of the info you need is your password and username/email adress.

It is rather easy actually.

And is a way better solution than the simcard method. Since the simcard method removes your pictures, and messes up the information you have on your contacts.
[XPERIA X10 General] Nocturnal310:
the sim contact transfer is fuked up.

i lost lot of contacts...something is wrong i think

try Sprite Migrate...its THE best.
[XPERIA X10 General] zoz33:
I second that, sprite migrate is the best
[XPERIA X10 General] bmw-boy:
thanks to much for your advice
[XPERIA X10 General] ukon:
No problem mate ;)
[Desire General] kev_gray:
Hey guys,

First post on this forum so be gentle :)

I've had an HTC desire for several weeks now and have to say what a great bit of kit! Does everything you could ever think of so far!

I have had one issue that seems to have started up last night however! It seems that every so often when I return to the home screen a loading box appears briefly and then goes away. If I then check my friend stream etc it shows up as loading. This seems to happen randomly after around ten mins or so. I have tried switching phone off and taking battery out but it still comes up. I even tried the "Magic keys" of vol down, power and trackpad but it still shows up? Does anyone know what this could be that is causing it? It gets a bit annoying having it pop up saying loading after a short length of time!

Thanks in advance for any advice to this noob!
[Desire General] EroThraX:
I had it happen a couple of times, no idea why. It eventually stopped happening though.
[Desire General] spooky75:
I also have Loading message sometimes and when it disappears there is also an empty browser window shown for a moment...
[Desire General] danupong9:
I think it try to the home screen again. But I don't know why.

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