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[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kemekill Products:
rooted or unrooted?

one second thought.. try downgrading and re-rooting your phone via old school rc29 rom versions..

something has obviously gone awry. lets see if flashing an older rom will get you into the phone and then you can flash a new recovery, spl and radio from there.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=442480&page=35

Sometimes you just gotta redo everything because of software mismatches and extra crap in your phone that isn't supposed to be there.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thatruth132:
i had bought the phone like that stuck on bootloader i fixed it after i tried to flash the org. spl it didnt flash but after reset it booted fine after rooting and using the danger spl and cannon complete eclair my carmera went bugging so i decide to downgrade and reroot i flashed the rc29 but it went back to the first problem again
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kemekill Products:
all eclair roms have problems with cameras.. but this sounds more like there's just something not right.. could be anything from your radio to your recovery.. Full wipe and restart the process I no longer have a g1 but im pretty sure if i downgraded from 2.1 to rc29 my phone would act screwy too.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thatruth132:
i did the full wipe formated sd cards i am at a brick wall with out a brick
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kemekill Products:
set up sdk/adb and see if your phone is being found or not with the command

/cd
cd AndroidSDK/tools/
adb devices
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thatruth132:
i have adb installed correct its not picking up in adb at all no fastboot of course
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HaloTechnology:
I don't know i maybe wrong but think you should start all over again

downgrading to v1.0

although i am not that experience:eek:

please wait for someone how know
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thatruth132:
nothing i try is catching
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thatruth132:
still needing help
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ezterry:
And we still don't know what you have installed..

1) make sure your phone is off: boot into the spl by turning on the phone while holding down camera.. tell us all the text on that screen

2) power off your phone again and enter recovery (power on holding home) if it loads do you see any version info? Or just an icon in the center of the screen.. if it dosent load tell us that

3) can you boot into a system (in your case I assume not but if others are reading) tell us the build number and rom if possible in about phone. If it wont boot tell us that.

4) Last what carrier and country is the phone originally from. (This changes what "stock" is)

With all of this information we can find the correct path to solve any issues.. usually without resorting to jtag.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thatruth132:
DREA 100 PVT 32B

HBOOT 0.95.0000

CPLD 4

Rado 2.22.19.26I

Sep 2 2008

At this point, I searched around again for 30 minutes or so, and saw the stuck camera button problem and took off the back battery case and performed a restart and still went straight to the SPL with almost no delay. The camera button depresses properly and doesnt seem to be stuck.

After all this, I figured I should just start off fresh, so I flashed the DREAM.nbh for RC29 that is listed everywhere in order to get root. On restart, I held down the camera button, and the white screen comes up to ask if I want to boot image.

I do, and everything goes off without a hitch, I press action key to restart and end up at the SPL screen again, this time, my radio is down to v1.2 instead of v2.2 so I know I changed something. I have done this update twice just to make sure everything is going right but I am still stuck at SPL.

Sorry for the extensive post, but as you can see, I did a bit of trouble shooting before I posted this.

1 did that

2 did that regular recovery

3 can not boot into system on 1.5 cupcake signed-kila-ota-148830.de6a94ca.zip

4 tmobile usa
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thatruth132:
anything i know its not bricked
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ezterry:
OK you have rc29 installed. That is the original android with 1x radio. So software wise you are fine. (Ie not bricked)

The problem is you need to enter normal boot and are always entering the spl instead?

My guess is the camera button is stuck..

The real button is surface mounted on the main board what you press is a user friendly piece of plastic on top of that, attatched to the phone's cover.

If you have any warranty get T-Mobile to take a look.. Otherwise you can try opening it and cleaning it out.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thatruth132:
i tired that and i actually switched the mother boards and check the buttons and nothing is stuck when i update to rc29 it lets me when i update to cupcake it lets me the text even changes on bootloader but not actual boot
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thatruth132:
any more ideas
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ezterry:
Remove phones back so main board is exposed hold battery against battery bins and power on.. see if normal boot works (do not hold camera button do not put the back cover on during this test)

If you are not seeing the splash screen on normal boot something is wrong. And its not likely due to the installed rom.

The only other option is to boot with an HTC serial wire and watch the debug output for an idea of what is happening.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thatruth132:
i actually did that last night and nothing i know there is a fix for it but ijust dont know what it is ...lol but the only thing that came close to working well actually did work was when i tried to flash original spl

also i noticed it only let me flash :

DREAIMG-RC29.zip

signed-kila-ota-148830.de6a94ca.zip

but still goes to bootloader

and signed-PLAT-RC33-from-RC30.zip , signed-kila-CRC1-from-CRB43-FIX.7ca4a1d7.zip , signed-kila-DRC83-from-CRC1.c41b93c1.zip wont flash i get line 2 errors
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thatruth132:
I am needing a lil more help
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ionic7:
So let me get this straight, you bought a bricked phone, tried to flash a spl which you said did not flash so just rebooted?...
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thatruth132:
its not bricked by our terms of a brick because when i got it was on rc29 but oon boot loader but after i flashed the stock spl again the phone did boot and i was able to root it but i started experiencing issues so i decided to go to stock and reroot so i downgraded and now im back with the same issue
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thatruth132:
so should i trash this motherboard
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thatruth132:
any one else got any input for me
[Nexus One General] tantrix:
Earlier this year, I was a huge Android fan. I had a rooted G1 with a different firmware every week. My Dream ended when I realized that the battery was lasting me not more than 5-6 hours, even with very light use. This was after swapping out batteries/phones. Also, for working out, I needed a good music player. Android's default one needed a LOT of improvements.

So, when my friend brought over his iPhone, I decided to give it a try. I bought an iPhone 3GS from craigslist. Jailbroke and Unlocked it. The battery was lasting me more than a day, even after watching more than an hour of TED.com talks, and listening to an hour of music. The ipod functionality was amazing with the volume/music controls in the earphones.

Then, I accidentally updated my phone to the latest firmware... which cannot be unlocked. So I'm back to using my G1.

So, the question still stands.. Is Froyo on Nexus One better in battery performance and iPod functionality of iPhone 3GS. Especially with the upcoming iPhone 4G, we can be sure that Apple will increase the battery life of iPhone (as they've done with all previous updates)?
[Nexus One General] Vandam500:
I get a lot better battery life with Froyo then on my 3GS to be honest. Also, as far as the music functionality goes, why do you think its so bad? If you dislike the interface, then you can download a alternate option from the Market. But for me, as long as it plays the songs, view/edit playlists and browse the music I am good to go.
[Nexus One General] crazy talk:
i got slightly less battery life from my Nexus with 3G turned off compared to my jailbroken 3GS.

normally ended up with about 10% less battery at the end of the day compared to my IPhone and similar usage.

the Nexus was stone stock.
[Nexus One General] tantrix:
Thanks for the replies...

To answer the question about music interface... I think the ipod interface is much smoother than anything i've seen in Android (please suggest something in case I might've missed it). As I mentioned before, I use the earphone controls A LOT.. and am not sure if Nexus One will offer the same functionality.

Battery life is a huge issue for me. As I said, my usage on iPhone was pretty heavy. Let me lay it out here -- this is with Edge.. Push On.. and Location On.

- 1.5 hrs music

- 1 hr video (Ted talks podcast)

- 1.5 hr phone calls

- 2 hr games

- 3 hr Wifi on

With this kinda usage, my iPhone would have 15-20% battery left by end of the day (midnight usually)...

Does your Nexus One match that or is better?

( I'd love to switch to Nexus, if battery is a non-issue... love the Google integration!)
[Nexus One General] halorin:
Battery life is across the board on the N1 for some reason. People will have the same set up and get very different kinds of battery life. I know I've never been happy with the battery life of the phone.

A good music player is ³. Cubed. I like it. I recommend the Nexus One if you get the 2 batteries and external battery charger for 20 bucks deal off of eBay. Maybe life will increase but until then having an arsenal of batteries solves my problem.
[Nexus One General] Jack_R1:
Ok, I guess I'm back to 8th grade, basic math. Let's calculate. And because you could have just looked in the specs and done the math yourself, I'm not going to look there, and if I bring the wrong numbers - so be it.

1.5 hr of music is almost nothing. Music is optimized for very low battery usage - 20 hr of listening or so. Let's say, 5% off battery.

Wifi on is nothing. You can keep it on for as long as you like, you actually save battery - it turns off 3G/HSDPA and uses WiFi data.

1.5 hr phone calls out of ~6 hours spec ~= 25% battery off.

1 hr video out of 5 hr spec ~= 20% off.

2 hr games are quite destructive. Both CPU activity and display. Let's say, another 25-30% off.

You're left with approx. 15-20%. Surprised?

Oh wait... It figures, no? Do you think one of those systems is going to be significantly inferior in terms of battery life? You don't think Samsung and Qualcomm know their stuff well enough?

Ah, and the difference is going to show if you use Android power and load it with zillion auto-updating and auto-syncing widgets, that'll chew on your CPU idle time and use up your network power.

[edit] That's exactly the reason for varying battery life between users, as the poster above noted. People use their phone differently, and unlike iPhone, it can perform a lot of things simultaneously, without you even noticing (it's enough that you installed auto-syncing widget and made it sync once in 5 min with a good amount of data, for example) - and it'll cost you battery life. Control what you're running, and you'll get more out of the battery.
[Nexus One General] hexix:
I came from an iPhone 3G to the Nexus One and the battery life does seem worse. it's always hard to compare because I do more with my Nexus One. My gut feeling though is even if my usage is similar to what I would have done with my iPhone, the Nexus One just uses more power. Part of that may be the higher res screen. Battery usage almost always shows the display as the biggest user of my battery.

I recently have been having worse than normal battery life. I'm not sure if it's due to upgrading to Froyo or if it is because I turned Latitude on. If it's Latitude, then it's really frustrating that the Battery Usage area doesn't list Latitude as using my battery. Kind of makes that a pointless feature if things just get hidden under names like "Android System".

I also agree with you on the Android music player. I use it, and it's not terrible, but the iPod app on the iPhone is just much easier to quickly get to the music you want to play. Also the Genius features are really well done. Someone suggested Cubed. I found it gives a really good first impression but once you use it you realize it's actually just flashy and it functions awful. As far as I can tell there's no way to quickly find and play a single song with it.
[Nexus One General] xzr3b0rnzx:
Battery life for 3gs is better than nexus..
[Nexus One General] lifeflayer:
For my usage the battery life on Froyo is about twice as good as the battery on 3GS. Granted, I listen to slacker radio while browse websites for about 2 hours a day and the multitasking on android is much more natural than the jailbreak alternative.
[Nexus One General] attn1:
I am not altogether sure you aren't just trolling. There isn't any way to give a definitive answer to this question, but I'll give you my experience.

No new N1 user is going to say he gets good battery life. You won't want to shut the screen off for the first week.

Now, I can get a day and a half out of my battery on a stock rom if I don't sync absolutely everything frequently, I use wifi when it's available, keeping radios I am not using off and basically, being mindful of power use. I use it frequently, but not constantly. And if I am away from a charger, I have an inexpensive spare battery that I can change all by myself without any special tools all the while sending SJ a FU via ESP.
[Nexus One General] tantrix:
Thanks for all the inputs...

Lemme get first thing straight.. I have NO intentions of trolling ;) No harm intended. When I bought the iPhone, EVERYONE I know was immensely surprised. I was (and still am) a spokesperson for Android. I love the apps. Maybe thats a reason that we all install so many widgets/apps which use data.... So many are available for free!! and awesome ones too.. for example.. I'd kill for the News and Weather app to be in iPhone.. but its not...

As I said in the original post.. a big chunk of my criteria is battery life.. second big chunk is music... I guess I'm sad that no Android phone yet can beat the battery life that an average iPhone user gets... I was hoping by releasing Froyo, google would change that (hence this thread)...

:) Trust me guys.. I live by my gmail.. would rather have everything centered around it... than having apple control my life... just dont wanna carry around extra batteries.. like i had to for my g1...
[Nexus One General] myplague:
Intersectraven kernels with any nexus one Rom gives me the best battery. Rite now I'm on froyo and have lasted more than 20 hours with the kernel.

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Sent from my Nexus One
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
Now that I'm using my nexus normally, I'm getting good battery life. 12 hours of solid usage.
[Nexus One General] Sindroid:
Which of Raven's kernel are you using?

I have a iPhone 2G and it beats my N1 on battery but not considerably.. I read that the 2G is teh king while 3G is the worse of the three iPhones. 3GS is slight better than 3G.
[Nexus One General] myplague:
. 34 925mV

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Sent from my Nexus One
[Nexus One General] codesplice:
Something that people keep mentioning but seems to keep getting overlooked when people compare any device running Android to the Almighty iPhone...

Multitasking. Takes. More. Power.

Being able to run 5 or so apps in the background (along with all the automated syncing that's happening on the network-data side of things) is going to drain the battery more than doing one thing at a time on Apple's product.

When your iPhone is able to effectively multitask, come back and then you can compare the battery life.

Quite simply, Android lets you do more than you could ever possibly do on the iPhone platform. It gives you the option (free will - unheard of on the Apple side of things!) to run a handful of apps simultaneously. This, naturally, uses more power as the processor is doing more. This is not rocket science, people. You choose to do more, so accept the power penalty. Or, you can be mindful of your battery usage and manage things appropriately to get a significant battery life improvement. It's your choice!

And if you still don't get enough battery life out of this more powerful, more capable device, as attn1 pointed out, there is absolutely nothing to stop you from getting an inexpensive spare battery that can be swapped into the phone in under a minute (INCLUDING the time it takes to shut down and power back up).

Trying to compare any recent Android device to Apple's iPhone is like comparing my gaming notebook to my old TI-84 graphing calculator - which did get much better battery life than my current Asus G72 notebook.
[Nexus One General] deli_gt:
For me it's nexus that wins 3gs easily. my iphone with small use 1 day nexus with hevy use 1 day.
[Nexus One General] halorin:
Some backstory.

Paul's Froyo.

Tweaked Kernel.

Home++

Sync off

Widgets: Facebook (no notification), ³ medium, Google Search, Power Control, News and Weather (12 hour refresh)

Screen set to auto brightness

Went to bed with 98% charge at 11:30pm.

Alarm goes off at 5am. 93%

Check Facebook. Turn on sync. Browse xda on default browser. 89%

Get on the metro.

Browse the internet.

Read a few news articles in the news widget.

Listen to music with Bluetooth headphones for 20 minutes or so.

Browse xda some more.

Download the latest 925 cfs kernel from ir's thread.

By 7:14 I'm at 64% charge.

In 2 hours doing what I noted here I lose close to half my battery?! That's laughabad.
[Nexus One General] tantrix:
Thanks for the VERY detailed post... And also for clarifying the controls thing... thats awesome that N1 uses the mic button for controls... I use it a lot while running to skip songs...

I'm on the brink with my G1 though... Flashed the latest 2.1 ROM from Cygo.. at first I thought it was fast.. but now its driving me crazy.. its not really the ROM but the phone itself.. will post a video of the experience soon..

So to summarize above posts...

- N1 can give same or better battery life than iPhone... provided.. that we use it well... no crazy widgets/apps which keep using data...

- The earphones button CAN be used in N1 to skip songs.. which is awesome for me...

I think I might order my N1 today itself.. as it's still being sold on google (surprisingly enough).. Who knows once only T-Mobile sells it, if they'll stop offering the unlocked option....

Thanks for all the input guys :)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NickMl:
I'm wondering what the best place to preorder the Evo is, based on the various promotions.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gqstatus0685:
Radioshack
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] atoy74:
I ordered from Best Buy. Dont know which is better but I've heard that if you mention the Radio Shack accessories deal they'll match it.

Also it looks like only BB is going to have the HDMI dock at launch.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] MrVenomous:
I've searched everywhere and even asked Konikub himself, but I can't seem to find the clear lock from this rom. It's like the MyTouch 3G Slide lock but clear. I hate all of them except this one. I am running Aloysius 2.09 and this is the only thing I want. I've searched and can only find other versions I do not like. Somebody help me get my clear lockbar back.

btw. It is the on that you swipe down, no the rotary or the one with the the volume slider. Its the Black bar and when you go to unlock, you can see your background behind the bar. Thanks for anybody that can help.
[HD2 General] Mr Kipper:
I have searched this issue throughout XDA and web without joy so perhaps someone can offer some advice.

I am running Windows 7 and using WMDC to sync to my HD2. I can establish a link ok but when flashing a new ROM, Radio or HSPL, the USB connection is lost when it enters bootloader mode. Therefore the instal fails. I try over and over again and occassional a new driver loads (HD2 USB, etc) and the flash completes.

I have seen that this seems to be a big issue for others as well but there doesn't seem to be an answer posted yet.

My solution so far has been to revert to my old faithful XP with activesync 4.5 which works a dream!

Any feedback appreciated - beginning to think W7 with WMDC is a waste of time......

Thanks
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
put the phone into bootloader manually and attach the usb cable. does "serial" change to "usb" on the phone? if so run your flash and report back.

try all your usb ports, try to use one around back of the pc, not one mounted in the case outer in a hub.

also be sure and run customruu as administrator (right click and "run as administrator")
[HD2 General] Mr Kipper:
Did all that and same thing - no joy. In bootloader, goes from serial to usb but flashing HSPL2 (as example) fails. Various ports tried.

Is W7 WMDC a waste of effort? As I say, have seen others stuck in a rut trying to overcome this problem.

Perhaps I have driver problems? Will firewalls or virus s/w cause issues?

Thanks
[HD2 General] Demon_man:
in the rom thread did you check out task 29 without drivers for win vista and win 7 give that a quick read may help you out, :)
[HD2 General] Mr Kipper:
Thank you (i'm polite:D)
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
I use w7 no problems. the usual reason for hspl failing is the usb socket chosen. on both my machines if I use any port except the 4 built onto the main board it fails, even though I can use those ports to flash roms no problem at all.

some have also reported problems with their av software detecting hspl as containing a trojan when downloaded, and it sometimes gets disabled.(as does customruu occasionally)

other than that.... can't help sorry.
[HD2 General] Demon_man:
so did you get sorted :)
[HD2 General] Mr Kipper:
Will be trying the Task 29 idea later when I have some spare time - thanks. By the way, it is on all flashes - radio, custom ROM, etc, but using XP it is easy peasy!! Just anoying as my laptop is W7.
[HD2 General] Demon_man:
yes i find it so much easier on xp, untill i tried this new method with task 29 so much easier :)
[HD2 General] Mr Kipper:
SUCCESS!

Thanks - ran through the thread [REF] The DEFINITIVE MTTY Thread!! MARK 2 - HD2 Edition and all works great now. Uploaded new energy May 28th ROM and changed radio to 2.08 using this process (from Bootloader rather than activesync) and to quote a merecat - SIMPLES!!

Thanks again.

Perhaps someone could add a link to the MTTY thread as I think this is a problem with activesync and windows 7 for others too.
[HD2 General] le_paulo:
Well, the MTTY thread is a sticky. For good reason! :)

MG puts very detailed instructions for us Windows 7 people and if you do a quick search along the lines of "WMDC windows 7 problems", you'll get thousands of posts from other W7 users who can't sync for many reasons. Conclusion: Windows 7 is a bit flakey when syncing with WM phones. And yes, XP is almost fault-free using activesync...

In my case, it got so bad I had to re-install Windows 7 before I could connect to any of my WM phones. Now it works fine (touch wood).

Glad to hear you got it sorted.
[HD2 General] alucardunit1:
Ok i know the problem and is there any way around it. when i got my ammount of messages up to about 600 my messaging app lagged alot is there any way to just load the more recent messages like iphone or do i just have to delete them all the time?
[HD2 General] alucardunit1:
any one got any thing i dont want to sound like an iphone lover but it worked well
[HD2 General] adamhlj:
Well, in one of the forums somewhere, I read that if you open a thread that has lots of messages in it, while they are loading, hit the send button. When the prompt comes up asking if you want to send a blank message, hit cancel. The messages will all be loaded, and there shouldn't be any lag time. And then swype should work just fine. But yes, I know what you mean. I had an iphone before the HD2. And now I want a nexus one, lol.