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[Windows Mobile Themes] kenziesgrandma:
That's what I'm afraid of, lol. Oh well, I'm not going to do anymore tonight, I'm not even seeing straight anymore. It's after 2 am. here and my alarm is going off at 6 am. Talk to you later, and thanks again.

Kathy
[Windows Mobile Themes] jjdavola:
Update:

I started playing around with MSM and using the link to the "lonely" panel is very smooth and I really like it. Especially being able to copy my other panels onto the MSM panels. Although I did find the registry tweak to increase the page count of SPB MS. :cool:

I'm not sure if this has to do with MSM, but I can't change the backgrounds anymore. Believe me, I know how to change it in SPB MS, but its just not changing anymore, whether I use a Picture File or Local Gallery.

Any thoughts or tips how to change the background through the normal route or a backdoor route?

Thanks again.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Remember that that "lonely" panel can be set to have up to 7 pages with MsM ;)

Starting from next version, max number of pages will be 9 and both lifestyle and professional home will be configurable from within MsM like the additional panels :D

It has to do not with MsM per-se, but with the presence of an additional panel (meaning this happens when there are "foreign" panels other than lifestyle and professional home, no matter how they have been added)

Of course there's a simple workaround for that:

- change the wallpaper as usual

- wallpaper will not seem to change

- run "refresh background" script (start -> programs -> vostradamus -> refresh background)

- mobile shell will be restarted with the new wallpaper :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] jjdavola:
Thanks. That is great to hear. Now if you can just figure out how to stop the memory loss of my Omnia 2 after starting up SPB MS I'd be all set. .:p

Thank you!!! You're the best.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
I'm afraid that's not something that can be fixed so easily :p

On a device running windows mobile and mobile shell there are 2 things causing a memory leak:

1) mobile shell (smaller memory leak)

2) gwes.exe (bigger memory leak)

Number one finds a workaround in a simple shell restart, which brings mobile shell process back to its original size. You won't notice that much of an improvement though, for this memory leak is actually quite small.

Number two, which is a part of windows mobile, does not have a solution (at least that I know of) other than a soft reset...

To keep things as clean as possible, I'd suggest to install something like SK Schema, or any other SK product including FreeUp Ram service (it's included in 2 or 3 sk products if I remember well)... it won't make miracles, but at least it will help in keeping free ram at its best ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] jjdavola:
Thank you! It was a rhetorical comment, but I greatly appreciate your response.

FYI I have SKTools and use FreeUp Ram all the time and I've seen it go from 20MB to over 60MB free, but within 30 seconds it usually inches its way back up to the 30 to 40 range.

I'll look into SK Schema or do you think that would be duplicative?
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Not needed :) FreeUp Ram is the same in Sk Tools, Sk Schema and another Sk product too (can't remember which one lol) :p

Seen that you're on an Omnia 2 like me, I could suggest another couple tweaks:

- disable samsung dialer: it's a nice eye candy, but it's a memory eating monster :)

- disable WM6.5 lockscreen: it's another ram-zilla :p (I mean disable it from the registry: just setting the device not to lock on wake up is not enough)

Disabling WM6.5 lockscreen you will revert to the old 6.1 lockscreen which is kinda awful... but you could use S2U2 which is much lighter then 6.5 default dinosaur :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] jjdavola:
I already have S2U2 and Enable under lockscreen is already at 0, but every once and a while the Omnia lockscreen does pop up for some reason.:confused:

As far as the Samsung dialer, I do like it and I guess I'll suffer with it unless it is really that much of a hog. ;)

BTW if I could find n00b-proof instructions on how to flash the ROM on my O2, I'd be all for getting rid of 95% of the Verizon and Samsung bloatware, but the only guidance I found was a bit confusing.

Sorry to repeat myself, but thanks again!
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
huh? that's weird :confused:

Is it the usual enable=0 inside HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Lockscreen ?

And did you also set it not to lock screen on wake up in samsung settings?

I've never seen wm lockscreen since I did that :confused:

Uhm... if I remember right it could be some 9-10Mb....... :eek:

Try taking a look here ;)

I think I remember seeing some pretty detailed and beginners-friendly info about flashing on there (haven't flashed mine yet though) :p

You're welcome! ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] jjdavola:
Tell me about it. The 0 is in HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Lockscreen\Enable.

I ungreened the Lock when display times out under Lock Screen, but it still pops up every once and a while. :confused:

Maybe I don't like the dialer that much. :D

Thanks! Unfortunately I have the SCH-i920 (which is apparently more involved since its CDMA), otherwise I'd probably already be flashed. :p
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
lol I kinda had that feeling ahahah :D

Uhm.... I think the flashing procedure could be the same,

but

you'd better look around for some more info 'cause I'm a total noob when it comes to this subject and I'm definitely not sure about it :p
[Windows Mobile Themes] jjdavola:
I can certainly survive with the stock dialer and I profusely apologize for hijacking your great thread, but the left hard button no longer accesses the dialer and I researched it and can't find a solution on how to remap it. FYI I even tried AEB Plus Button and HButton and none of them appeared to allow me to remap that button. They only allow me to map the middle and right buttons. :confused:

I did look around, but all I found was THIS, which is a little confusing.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
huh :confused: and the left soft button stopped opening the dialer... when? :confused:

uhm.... the WinXP part seems the same as for the i8000 (and yes, if I was to flash it I'd flash only the pda part, just in case.... lol) :p

The Vista/Win7 part is indeed quite confusing... certainly not flashing-noob-like-me-friendly lol :p
[Windows Mobile Themes] jjdavola:
It stopped opening the dialer right after I disabled the Samsung "hog" dialer. Now I have a left button that can't be mapped to anything. :confused:

I of course have Win 7, which is why I'm still unflashed.:D
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Which registry edit did you apply to disable dialer-zilla?

If you put it back to its previous value does the button work again like before?
[Windows Mobile Themes] jjdavola:
I was lazy and used the cab from HERE. :o

FYI I used the enable cab and the button works just like old times. :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Uhm... I took a look around: another bunch of i920 users had the same problem, sounds like it does not happen on i8000 :(

Some of them solved the issue though... aebplus should be able to remap it back to the phone dialer.

I know you already tried it but... how did you expect the button to be named? Looks like aebplus calls it "the green button", maybe you looked for another name?
[Windows Mobile Themes] jjdavola:
No reason to be sad if you have a working left button. ;) I tried doing the registry edit manually and had the same problem.

BTW I tried the green button in AEB Plus and it definitely didn't work. Then it hit me to try installing AEB Plus in the little room I have left on my device instead of My Storage and that didn't work either.:(
[Windows Mobile Themes] kenziesgrandma:
Vostradamus, I have another request (surprise, surprise, you're right about starting to think about something else right away). I found this little clock icon and coloured it the right colour green to match the green status icons and the green digital clock but now I need a small battery icon about the same size to balance the other side. Is it possible to make one like the Glass battery icon (it's the perfect colour) only to make it small and square? (the clock is 128 x 128). If possible it would be perfect. I'm going to try to attach the little clock icon, I'm quite pleased with it (although my colouring job is far from perfect).

thanks very much

Kathy

ps. it really looks quite cute on my phone, the jaggedy edges don't show up like they do here.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
mmmh.... will keep looking around for some other possible solution ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Will try to come up with something :)

(I know the glass battery is the right tone of green, but don't forget it will not stay always green... it also turns yellow and red according to the battery level and cyan while charging....)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Released version 5.05 + a new widgets library :)

ChangeLog, detailed info & download links in the first post ;)

Enjoy! :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] RedRamage:
I know that whenever I use AEButton and map some of the key it's usually says something like: If you map button "x" you may also have to map button "y" and "z". Do you remember if you saw that message? If so, did you try mapping those other buttons as well?
[Windows Mobile Themes] RedRamage:
Can't say it enough Vostradamus... thank you so much! You've really made Mobile Shell what it should have been from the beginning. And I can't imagine any company being as responsive to it's users as you have been... and you do it all just for donations!

Thanks so much...
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
uhm... dunno, I never used aeb plus, I just read on some boards that some users with the i920 and your same issue used it to fix things up :p
[Windows Mobile Themes] lamborg:
Nice!

First to download your today's update of QVGA Lib. :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
lol grats! :D :p
[Windows Mobile Themes] kenziesgrandma:
Good morning Vostradamus, the new glass battery icon is perfect, thanks so much. I just made a small donation, not as much as I would like but I'll try to make another one in a little while, hopefully enough for a couple of cans of chicken for your kitty.

I have a question though, I can't figure out how to make the contacts icons work. I'd like to use the hexagon ones because I like the way they fit together on the screen but nothing shows up. I looked at the pictures you have in the preview and I don't know how to make them work like that. It's probably really simple and I'm just missing it but could you please explain how to get the transparent hexagon on the screen?

thanks

Kathy
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Thanks heaps, on behalf of Phoebe (my kitty) too :p

Skinning contacts requires a little trick :)

Contact widget does not have a graphic part, so its skins only define the size and position of the photo. The graphic part can be obtained using a shortcut widget. :)

Let's take the hexagon one as an example.

- activate special hexagon contact skin (or special hexagon 2, only difference is the size of the picture, the "2" being slightly larger)

- activate "transparency hexagon empty" link skin

- add a shortcut widget to your screen (doesn't matter which app you make it link to)

- set its skin to "transparency hexagon empty" -> the icon will disappear leaving only the hexagon

- add a contact widget

- set its skin to special hexagon

- place the contact widget over the empty hexagon shortcut

- trick done :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] kenziesgrandma:
Easy once you know how, right? Thanks for explaining Vostradamus, I'll work on it this afternoon, I'm going to redo my contact pages somewhat. Thanks again,

Kathy
[Windows Mobile Themes] kenziesgrandma:
Thanks again Vostradamus, for your help and your patience. I redid my People panels with the neon hexagon links and it looks awesome! Like I said, it really is easy once you know how, lol.

thanks again

Kathy
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
You're welcome again! ;)

Maybe once you'll be satisfied with your phone layout you could post some screenshots :p
[Windows Mobile Themes] kenziesgrandma:
Here are some screenshots of my layout that I'm working on, it's still a work in progress but it's getting there. I have invisible links on my Home page to my Alarm program (corner of clock), Task Manager (top left corner of VHub link) Phone Profile (top right corner of VHub link); and I'm using invisible links to my different panels (until I get the Black & White VHub links,:p). My PEOPLE page is a Lifestyle panel so the other 2 pages swype left and right, the same with my GRANDKIDS page. My INTERNET panel is only accessible from the Carousel or from Button 2 on the Home screen menubar. Like I said it's a work in progress, I keep going back and forth on my battery icons and my Alarm link etc. but eventually I'll find something that's perfect (I think). I hope these shots show up properly, I've never tried screen shots before (and I could only upload 8 images so there's a couple missing), but maybe it will give you some idea that I am really enjoying your program.

thanks

Kathy

ps. I maybe should have blanked out the names etc. but I wasn't sure how to do that, also the two bottom VHub links are to my APPS and AGENDA panels.

pps. somehow I was missing a GRANDKIDS page, I'll try to attach it as well. (hmm, it says it's there but I'm not sure why it doesn't show up. Oh well, there are 3 of them.
[Windows Mobile Themes] kenziesgrandma:
Here are some other screenshots (the ones I couldn't upload before).
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
You're definitely putting to good use MsM: looks great! :D

lol you sure love doggies as much as I love kitties :p the one with glasses is priceless :D

(oh, and b/w vhub links will most probably be in the next release) ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] kenziesgrandma:
Thanks for the kind words Vostradamus, you're right I do love doggies, especially Yorkies (I have a little 5 lb. one, her name is Gypsy). I'm really enjoying being able to change things around with MSM, the only problem is that my phone never looks the same 2 days in a row, lol, at least not yet. Looking forward to the next release, I always find something that I really like.

thanks again'

Kathy

ps. I'm always open to any suggestions that anyone has on how to improve my layouts.

pps. If you like my INTERNET doggie, you'll probably like this one too. I couldn't figure out how to get a screenshot (it's my S2U2 wallpaper but as soon as I connect to my PC all I can see is the battery charging) so I'm just uploading the picture.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
My parents have a Yorky, name is Chicco, but he's very old (17) and weak... hope he'll live as long as possible

What about adding somewhere a group family photo and placing invisible contacts over the various faces? ;)

yepppppp that's great too! :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Added a few possible layout examples pictures in post #3 ;)

(added them on picasa too, but the ones on post #3 are larger) :p
[Windows Mobile Themes] claus1953:
Thanks for the clock Vostradamus, this is my current setup. I use mostly invisible or clear links to my programs pages so i don't clutter the screens.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Clean and elegant, very very nice! :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] RedRamage:
Oh... I'm terribly disappointed that my layouts didn't make the cut!

Not really... mine aren't very pretty... I went for function over form, especially with my secondary screens!
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
lol yours are not bad at all ;)

None of those ones are users made layouts, I just composed them in a bunch of minutes on the emulator trying to show as many different possibilities as possible :p
[Windows Mobile Themes] kenziesgrandma:
Vostradamus, when you make the Black & White VHub links could you please make me one for my AGENDA panel?

thanks

Kathy
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Sure, no problem ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] kenziesgrandma:
Thanks :) Looking forward to the next release.

Kathy
[Windows Mobile Themes] papindra:
tetapi tidak mengerti menggunakan nya
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
how to use MsM is described in the FAQ in the second post.... try reading those FAQ and see if you can manage, then if you still have some doubts try asking a specific question, at least a bit more specific than "don't understand how to use it" :)

Just one thing though, pls try writing some english: I can't always rely on google translation and google automatic language detection to understand what users are asking lol :p
[Windows Mobile Themes] jotha:
I've read my share of ridiculous posts, but this one is priceless.:cool:
[Windows Mobile Themes] khalidabuu:
hey where can i find neon theme
[Windows Mobile Themes] mskip:
This is an English speaking forum please do not post a message without an English translation or your message may be deleted.

Thank you.

Mark.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
the easiest answer is "in the full library" :p

In there you'll find all the "pieces" you need (widgets and menubar), you'll just have to activate them and set the screens up as you like ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] capncark:
I cant seem to get it to work. the manager installed fine and the base library intalled too. I could preview the widgets (which look awesome BTW) and activated a few clock widgets. Got the activation complete window. I then restarted shell and added the clock widget to the screen but when I select the widget in edit mode there is no change skin option. What did I miss?
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
What localization does your device have? "Change Skin" could read different according to your rom language...

When you go to "edit layout" mode and then click on a widget, what options do you see? Usually, the available options should be:

"Remove" -> to delete the widget from the screen (same as dragging it on the recycle bin)

"Edit Layout" -> to continue rearranging the various widgets

"Change Skin" -> to select the shape of the widget (this is the one you're looking for)

Plus, some widget may have a couple options more:

"Default action" and "Settings"

All of them, though, can read different on a non-english rom
[Windows Mobile Themes] capncark:
Actually, I was only running 3.0.0. I upgraded to 3.5.5 and I have the option to change skin now:D

Unfortunately, now the new widgets show up in the skins menu but when selecting them and pressing ok the change doesn't get applied. If I go back into the menu the new skin is no longer selected. the skin preview in the menu doent change when selecting new skin either.I did install a sense ui theme cab. Could that be affecting it?:confused:

I uninstalled the sense cab and still nothing
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Upgrading mobile shell "destroys" my xml definition file, that's why you can see the skin names but can't select them.

Just run the libraries -> restore xml function inside MsM and you should be good to go ;)

(EDIT: installing another theme too can often destroy my xml, should that happen again just re-run the restore xml function once more)
[Windows Mobile Themes] capncark:
Worked Like a charm!!! Thanks!!! You are the widget king!!!:)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
You're welcome! ;)

lol thanks! :p :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] Dadi68:
Hello dear neighbour Vostradamus!

I just made a full backup of my mobile shell with your program...

I'm using version 3.5.5 with Naongs Mobile Sense theme.

I hope that it will restore ok, because Im tired to setup MS again and again (yea Im flashing ROMS too often).

Thank you for your work!

Greetings from Greece.

Dimitris
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Hi there :)

as long as mobile shell version is the same it should work fine (I did it myself 4 times so far)

Lemme know if everything will go smooth ;)

Just a little note: I don't know how mobile sense works, but keep in mind that if mobile sense stored anything outside mobile shell default folders, that part has not been backed up. Should that be the case, reinstall mobile sense prior to restoring the backup and you should be good to go :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] kenziesgrandma:
Vostradamus, I have a question completely unrelated to MSM but I was wondering if you could help me with it. I'm trying to add some different tones to the default "Clock & Alarms", I've been told to convert some tones to .wav format and copy them into the main Windows folder. I can convert the tones OK but I don't know how to get them into the Windows folder on my device. Do you maybe know how to do this?

thanks

Kathy
[Windows Mobile Themes] jotha:
Hi Kathy,

there are two ways, depending on the situation.

If you have an active-sync-connection to your phone you will see 2 drives at the connection. One is your storage card and one is labeled "\" which is the main storage of your phone. If you open the main storage you should see the windows directory. Try copying the wav's there.

If you get a write-protection error (which happens on most devices), you have to copy them to some place on the memory-card (any folder will do). From there you have to copy them with the internal file-manager on the phone to the windows directory. This should work always.

This is, because on most devices it is not allowed to copy from the PC directly into the windows-folder of your device.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Sure :)

- Open file explorer

- Go to the folder where you have your wav files

- Long tap on the file you wish to move to windows folder

- Cut

- Go to \windows

- tap on Menu -> Edit -> Paste

- Done

;)

EDIT: urgh... as usual I'm slower than Jotha :p
[Windows Mobile Themes] kenziesgrandma:
Thanks very much to both of you, I was hoping you wouldn't mind a totally off topic question. Your instructions worked perfectly, it was a lot easier than I thought it would be lol.

thanks again

Kathy
[Windows Mobile Themes] jotha:
You're welcome ;).
[Windows Mobile Themes] DMX78:
Hello Vostradamus,

First of all, big thanks for your great work.

I've just installed it and works well.

I've a request.

Is it possible to make a 3 icons bar without text in Bottom MenuBar customization?

Thank you in advance.

PS: sorry for my bad english :p
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
You might want to try the advanced menubars: they can have 1 to 8 buttons (user choice) and you can select the function for each one of them ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Dadi68:
My friend, the restore was successfull.

So I can confirm that your program is 100% compatible with Naong's Mobile Sense :D

Thank you
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Great! Thanks for testing it :p
[Windows Mobile Themes] DMX78:
Yes, i've seen this but i would like the same style as the "no text" bar but with 3 icons.

Is it possible to do that?

thanks.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
not currently in a customizable way with MsM.... I should know which functions (icons) need to be present and then I should create a new menubar with that configuration.

(or you could extract the menubar definition file manually, modify it to your likings and inject it back)

Customizable menubars with "default style" including internal mobile shell icons would require a different script not currently supported by MsM
[Windows Mobile Themes] DMX78:
i can't do it myself, i understand nothing :(

I like this menu bar, it is a little thinner than the original.

I would like the launcher, the agenda (thumbcall) and the contacts.

I will be greatful if someone can explain me how to do that or do it for me :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
icons in the menubar can only link to internal mobile shell panels, so thumbcal can't be used.... it could link to mobile shell agenda panel though...
[Windows Mobile Themes] DMX78:
Could you do that? :p

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Sure I can :) Will add it to my to-do list for the next update ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] DMX78:
many thanks :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] DMX78:
how can i change the different panels backround?

When i change it, i have a strange picture in the 1/3 of my screen.

Did i missed something?