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[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
They're under the name of "invisible links" :)

I don't think there's one with the exact size of the agenda widget, but there are several sizes nonetheless, give them a try. ;)

Back on my old i8000 I used to place an invisible link only over a part of the agenda widget, so that I could access

both

the MS calendar and my fav. calendar app just tapping on the correct spot :p
[Windows Mobile Themes] fclifton:
Thanks, I will look for them. You wouldn't happen to know in which directory they are would you? :rolleyes:

In reading through the posts, it looks like pretty much all that can be done is to extend existing SPB widgets. I would like to be able to display a registry value, kind of like what a missed call widget would do. Is there a way to do that?
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
They should be part of the "links1" category :)

About widgets: you're right, mods are limited to the existing widgets 'cause spb never released a sdk so we modders have no way to try and add new functionalities (such as the one you're looking for, for example) :(

Widgets aside, though, there's quite a lot of other things you can "play" with using MsM:

- additional panels

- panels backgrounds

- weather icons sets

- menubars

- "changing pictures" widgets (periodically self-changing images)

- backups
[Windows Mobile Themes] fclifton:
Sorry, I must not be looking at things correctly. I copied the expanded Widgets directory from my phone to my laptop so I could look through the files. I don't see anything in 'links1" that looks completely transparent. Everything looks (in the JPG file at least) like it has a border. Could you point me to a specific example?

Where can I find more information on the "changing pictures" widgets? I might be able to use that to do what I want. I can use Mortscript to read the registry and copy the appropriate "picture" to the correct place maybe.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
If you're looking at the jpg images I guess you're looking at the screenshots/preview images.... invisible links do not have a preview image... mainly 'cause I did not know what to put in the preview: an image of.... nothing? lol :D :p

You just need to go on the widgets - activate menu, inside the "links1" category and from there you will be able to activate them for use in mobile shell.

There's a doc regarding changing pics attached to the first post of this thread, try taking a look at it ;)

Plus, seen that you know mortscript, if you want you can take a look at the whole MsM code: it's all mortscript :p
[Windows Mobile Themes] cru5her:
Hello there

First of all, congratulations for the app, it seems to be great!

Just a doubt:

- Since I have a chinese mobile with low RAM (73MB total), I still use the SPB Mobile Shell v. 3.0.6411. I think using version 3.5.x could leave me with less RAM available (but I did not test it yet, what do you think?). Anyway, for this reason, I would like to know if there is Vostradamus for versions 3.0.x of SPB Mobile Shell.

Thanks in advance.
[Windows Mobile Themes] ironhead65:
Vost,

have you seen the Blik Calendar Widget for Android? I wish we could get that for SPB.

[for the 100th time]Too bad SPB made their SDK closed...so many awesome things that COULD have been added[/for the 100th time]

--Ironhead
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
I'm not sure what the difference in ram could be between 3.0 and 3.5... maybe you could just give it a try, and if you see that the ram gets used too much you can always uninstall it and go back to 3.0 ;)

I started developing MsM on mobile shell 3.5, so there's no 3.0 version... but then again, I've never tried taking a look at how 3.0 works so, for what I know, maybe some parts could even work with it.... mind, though, that that's a

very big

maybe, I've never even tried something like that so if you think of trying pls be sure to backup everything first in case it should mess something up (or... you could try asking around if someone ever tried or knows if there's a chance for it to work, even partly)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
I've seen it, not my kind of calendar but DEFINITELY interesting and a nice idea nonetheless... if at spb they tried taking their heads off their a...s they could have realized that with a user community developing stuff like that to work with mobile shell their sales would have grown some

serious

%

Too bad it looks like their a...s are comfortable places to keep their heads in lol :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] GEX THE GECKO:
Menubars are wicked

iNstalled on my HD2 works wicked and i finally got to test that sexy neon menubar:) love it nice 1 keep up the good graft

I dunno if you remember but a few pagez back i asked you how i would go about changing the colour of a panel, well i managed to do it:) but when i tried to change the colour of a photo frame using the same method itz stayed the same, does colouring that work differently or does it just have to be saved in a certain way:confused:
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
picture frames are kinda tricky, it depends on what "tpye" of picture frame you were trying to modify, the type is defined in the xml inside the dat file :p
[Windows Mobile Themes] GEX THE GECKO:
It waz just a Large blue 1 I wanted to change the blue to a blue similar to the neon menubar if you get what i mean by that lol.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
uhm.... I can't really say I got which one you mean :p

Is it one of MsM widgets? Maybe the one named "thick"? If it's that one, then it should work like the others, with a 16 bits bmp + a grayscale mask
[Windows Mobile Themes] GEX THE GECKO:
It waz MSkips Large blue frame i unzipped it followed the same instructions to edit a panels colour zipped it back up and stuff passworded it and then soft reset ma phone and it was still the same:confused: itz no big deal like it was mainly the panels colour i needed to change and i can do that easily now. thanks again for the help with that:) editing a photo frame was just something i fancied giving a go. before i decided to start messing with more advanced widgets:D
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Uhm... But where did you get the dat file from, mobile shell folder or MsM widgets folder? 'cause if you took it from MsM folder you should have deactivated/reactivated the widget before seeing it modified inside mobile shell

Sent from my brain using neural wireless connection to my router while talking in whistles to my modem. Or if you didn't buy it, sent from my I9000 using tapatalk :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] GEX THE GECKO:
I got it from MSM Widgetz folder and yeah i didnt do that thatz probably why it waz still the same, ar well il give it another go when i get my phone:) Sent from my brain using neural wireless connection to my router while talking in whistles to my modem. Or if you didn't buy it, sent from my I9000 using tapatalk :)thatz gotta be the no1 Random post of the year Congratz:D

Sent from my mind using the jedi mind trick:D
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Lemme know if it works ;)

LOL that was my tapatalk signature :p I was writing from inside the cinema (while waiting for the movie to start of course) :D

That's another nice one... I could steal it lmao :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] GEX THE GECKO:
A will do in 23dayz when i have the phone again:(lol cant wait. i just thought it was some random thing cos to be honest i dunno what tapatalk is but im gunna google it:p

Take it, but be carefull George Lucus might sue ya :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
huh? Did I miss something? Where's your phone? :confused:

Tapatalk is a piece of mobile software for reading/posting on forums :) Quite comfortable :)

Nah, I'd use the mind trick on him too and make him forget about it :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] GEX THE GECKO:
thatz a good idea, i can think of multiple uses for the mind trick:D Well I sold my hd mini on ebay and it went for 170 the HD2 was 330 and i couldnt afford it and really wanted it, so i was talkin to my mam n dad and they said they would put the rest and get me it for xmas:)

Never been so excited about xmas in years:D amazing phone glad i got it
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
sounds like someone's gonna have a real Very Happy Christmas this year! :D Grats! ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] GEX THE GECKO:
Haha too ryt:)
[Windows Mobile Themes] micromacro:
ENG:

With MSM 5.07, as can I insert a different background for every page of a Lifestyle panel, as have you done you in this example?

Original discussion: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=689474

ITA:

Usando il tuo MSM 5.07, come posso inserire uno sfondo diverso per ogni pagina di un pannello Lifestyle, come hai mostrato in questo tuo esempio?

:)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
ENG:

I'm afraid you can't.... what those screenshots show are several professional panels, each with its own background. All additional lifestyle panels share the same wallpaper as the main lifestyle screen, and it can't be different on every page: this is a mobile shell limitation

ITA:

Temo che non sia possibile.... quello che mostrano quegli screenshots sono diversi pro-panels, ognuno col sul sfondo. Tutti i pannelli lifestyle aggiuntivi condividono lo stesso sfondo del lifestyle principale, e non può essere diverso su ogni pagina: è una limitazione di mobile shell
[Windows Mobile Themes] darkwolfelite:
Hi. First off sorry. Im sure this has been talked about but for some reason when I try to import the msm full wzg file thing my phone doesnt see it. i have insalled to sd , same place as program and when i go to import library i dont see the wzg file. Any help is awesome.

Am using Hd2 stock rom 6.5 with nothing but latest version of spb
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Just check where on the phone you saved the wzg file and navigate to that folder when the script asks you to select the library to import: the import library script sees every files with "wzg" extension

Also check that the wzg file has not been accidentally renamed (happened a couple times before, some software on the pc of a couple users "detected" that the wzg file was a zip/rar file and changed its extension, making it "invisible" for the import library script)
[Windows Mobile Themes] micromacro:
ENG:

Ok. But at least you will adjourn the widgets and the bars, doing insert something in style ANDROID as DOC3000 and MSKIP have done with their "DROID PRO+ 2.1 Theme?"

ITA:

Ok. Ma almeno aggiornerai i widget e le barre inserendo qualcosa in stile ANDROID come hanno fatto DOC3000 e MSKIP con il loro "DROID PRO+ 2.1 Theme"?

:)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
ENG:

Not sure, adding an android bar when there are already mskips and doc3000 ones available doesn't make much sense, especially 'cause MsM can work fine together with both mskip and doc3000 stuff :p

ITA:

Non saprei, aggiungere una menubar android quando già sono disponibili quelle di mskip e doc3000 non ha gran senso, specialmente perchè MsM funziona tranquillamente insieme alle mod sia di mskip che di doc3000 :p
[Windows Mobile Themes] micromacro:
ENG:

However the DROID Pro:

1) it is only PORTRAIT, for the one who has TOUCH Pro, or any other telephone with side physical keyboard, that is not all right.

2) change everything, while with MSM we can insert only a pair of changes and not necessarily the whole packet.

In practice they would be useful the alone widgets and bars, what ago generally MSM.

*****

Why in my TOUCH PRO VGA the categories CALENDAR-TASKS, CONTACTS and OPERATOR are empty, don't they contain widgets?

ITA:

Però il DROID PRO:

1) E' solo PORTRAIT, per chi ha TOUCH PRO, o qualsiasi altro telefono con tastiera fisica laterale, non va proprio bene.

2) Modifica tutto, mentre con MSM noi possiamo inserire solo un paio di modifiche e non necessariamente tutto il pacchetto

In pratica sarebbero utili i soli widgets e le barre, proprio ciò che fa in genere MSM.

*****

Perchè nel mio TOUCH PRO VGA le categorie CALENDAR-TASKS, CONTACTS e OPERATOR sono vuote, non contengono widgets?

:)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
ENG:

Are you looking inside the actual widget category with the "activate" function or in the "preview" one? Not all the widgets have a preview image, but they're still there nonetheless ;)

ITA:

Stai guardando nella categoria vera e propria con la funzione di attivazione o nella funzione di anteprima? Non tutte le widgets hanno un'immagine di anteprima, ma sono comunque presenti ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] mskip:
Why on earth are you having a conversation with each other in 2 languages at the same time lol..

Mark.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
uhm..... 'cause italian sounds cool? lmao :D :p
[Windows Mobile Themes] mskip:
Yes it SOUNDS cool but not when written in a forum along with the English translation when both people speak both langauges haha :p

Mark.
[Windows Mobile Themes] micromacro:
Ok, in the "activate" function they're present.

:)
[Windows Mobile Themes] micromacro:
My English is very bad indeed, therefore in this case I add Italian to be sure to make me understand if I make a mistake to write in English.

;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
I guessed as much (even though your english can be understood without problems), but saying that italian sounds cool was.... cooler! ahahahah :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] micromacro:
ENG:

In which file of SPB MS the ACTION icons of the contacts are present?

ITA:

In quale file di SPB MS sono presenti le icone ACTION dei contatti? Qualche tema che ho provato ad installare me le ha cambiate e vorrei tornare a quelle standard.

:)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
ENG:

uhm.... not 100% sure, but I think they could be inside va_misc_now.dat

ITA:

uhm... non sono sicuro al 100% ma penso potrebbero essere dentro va_misc_now.dat
[Windows Mobile Themes] XanaRaquel:
Sorry if this question has been asked/answer before but there's 151 pages of posts nows (!!!) and I would take hours to read them all.

For some reason (don't know if this is the way it's supposed to work) when I choose a background in the lifestyle home, it always appears to select the size and all as if I have my mobile in portrait mode. Since I don't, I only see the left half of the image (even when I only have it with 1 panel).

So unhappy with this, I decided to "active" backgrounds for the pro home. I changed the menubar just so the option for that would appear, like it says in the FAQs. After that I went and select the first image I saw because it only allows me to select bmp files. Exited MBM (not with the X), MS got restarted aandddd.... pro home went puff.

Everything is black, I don't see any widgets, there's a text on a box in the left upper corner saying "ext" and every time I tap the touchscreen everything, little that there is, gets brighter. Even when I select "restore defaults" in the MS for the pro style it stays the same.

If I try to add a new widget, it starts doing this image dragging when I move it around. Like when Windows is going really slow and when you drag a windows you see its trail. Really weird seeing this in a mobile but hey! The both are made by Microsoft lol. Also tried changing the background image but no effect.

I assumed this is cause by the background so I looked for a option in MSM to remove the background but found nothing.

What can I do to have pro style working like normal again? Besides re-installing everything...
[Windows Mobile Themes] micromacro:
Thx.

For all people, the specific files for ACTION ICONS in contacts are:

va_misc_now.dat\icons16_VGA.bmp

va_misc_now.dat\icons16_VGA_m.bmp

:)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Can't really say anything about how the lifestyle wallpaper is handled 'cause it's 100% up to mobile shell :p

About the pro home (and the same goes for any additional pro panels you might want to create), supported images are bmps and they

must

be the size of you screen... if it's behaving "strangely" chances are you selected an image of a very wrong size (probably quite smaller).

Try changing the image to one of the correct size, and pick a 24bits or 16bits one (16M colors or 64k colors) 'cause 256 colors images can sometimes have problems
[Windows Mobile Themes] micromacro:
REQUEST:

Can you realize a small series of widgets in the category LINKS?

A) ONLY TEXT LINKS, but with text colored (white, black, dark gray, gray, red, blue...)

B) ONLY TEXT LINKS, at least white text but with background behind the text:

- SENSE style, 1 line, a rectangle slightly rounded off, without trasparency (dark gray)

- SENSE style, 1 line, a rectangle slightly rounded off, light trasparency (dark gray trasparent)

- SENSE style, 1 line, a rectangle slightly rounded off, high trasparency like your BUTTON NUMERS BAR (light gray trasparent, but more dark than your glass trasparent widgets)

The lenght of the background could be standard (medium link SPB) and/or different.

Generally. to add a new widget is enough to copy it in the root of SPB MS or does it also use a file XML or some registry key?

:D
[Windows Mobile Themes] XanaRaquel:
Did just that. Used a 240x320 24bits BMP file and also a 480x640 to test and it's always the same.

This is how it looks like in the pro home after MS gets restarted by MSM. (the pic in the attachment).

Looks like the time panel got mixed in there and also a miniature of it... weird.

After that, if I change screen or open something, when I return everything is gone except that box in the corner saying "ext" and the menubar.

Maybe MS can't access the background image and goes crazy? They are all in the root of the SD card.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Request wrote down.

Can't really say when I'll make it though, development has sloooooooooooowed down a lot since when I sold my WinMo device

Nope, that's not enough...

To be "processed" by MsM, a new widget requires:

- dat file for the widget (when needed)

- xml definition to be injected into qa_layouts

- ini file with registry entries

- (optional) preview image

Attached to the first post of the thread there's a tutorial about how to create a widget, try taking a look at it ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Uhm... weird indeed :confused:

Could you attach on here your "qa_PROVBackground.dat" file (it should be inside mobile shell folder) so I can take a look at it?
[Windows Mobile Themes] XanaRaquel:
Here it is.
[Windows Mobile Themes] micromacro:
I need those widgets because it's possible to count the pages of the Lifestyle panel with a link named:

I-- (L)

-I- (center)

--I (R)

A graphic solution through a simple fake or real link

Will you succeed in creating them before Christmas? :D

I wanted to know only as a widget it is inserted/activate without MSM.

In the meantime that your job on MSM continues, I try to directly install some other widget and not through MSM.

If I find a widget, which type of files I must insert in the root of SPB to be able to use it?

:D
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Ok, got it :)

The problem was that the first bmp you selected as a background was terribly small (some 20x22 pixels) and it was a read-only file.

This causes the scripts not to be able to change it again once it's set, so every other time you tried to change it, it just didn't work, it kept the small image and it kept on acting weird.

I'm attaching the file with the default wallpapers, replace the qa_PROVBackground.dat in your mobile shell folder and be careful to

never

use a read-only image ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
:confused: I'm afraid I'm not quite following you.... :confused:

Anyway, I just remembered one thing: try the "special title" links (should be in links3 category if I'm not mistaken): they should be with no icon nor graphics and several text colors ;)

adding some files in mobile shell folder is not gonna be enough to add a widget...

a widget needs its dat file in mobile shell folders, then it needs to be defined in a xml file inside qa_layouts.dat, and then it also needs some registry entries to make mobile shell "load" it and to tell mobile shell where in the xml files it needs to look for its definition...
[Windows Mobile Themes] XanaRaquel:
Wow how unlucky me. I was just testing if the backgrounds in pro home would behave the same way in lifestyle and since I didn't have any bmps, I just choose the first one I saw. If I'm not mistaken a file called temp.bmp in the memory's root. I guess that's what messed up everything.

I've replaced the qa_PROVbackground.dat with the one you attached and everything is fine now. Yay ^^!

Well, with exception that "restore defaults" in the pro home doesn't return the default widgets of MS. Oh well, I was gonna change them anyway ^^.

Thanks a bunch.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
you're welcome! ;)

Also, I was almost forgetting about this, you need to go in the "tools" subfolder inside MsM main folder and manually delete (if present) two files named "background.bmp" and "backgroundL.bmp", 'cause they could still be there with that read-only flag, preventing the change background script from working (usually the script deletes them, but if they have that flag it can't so.....)
[Windows Mobile Themes] XanaRaquel:
They are probably there because I just changed the background and it happened all over again :mad:. And I can't confirm because the battery just ended.:mad::mad:

When the mobile is charged I'll check and tell you if it worked ^^.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Yep, one of those files is most probably the reason... here's what happened:

- you replaced the provbackground.dat file with the correct one

- shell started working again

- you tried to change the background

- script took the image you picked and tried to prepare the background.bmp file with it

- it could not create it 'cause the file was already there with the old, small, read-only one

- script put the old background.bmp inside the dat file

- shell messed up the background again :p
[Windows Mobile Themes] micromacro:
I have used a link as indicator of page. I have named the 3 links:

L) • oo

C) o • o

R) oo •

See the images attached

;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
oooook, this time I got it! :)

Nice idea, simple and effective!
[Windows Mobile Themes] XanaRaquel:
Ok this is time is actually fixed! I can change the background with no problem. In the tools folder there was a background.bmp. I opened just to see what image was and it was that box with the text ext.

Thanks again.

I do have a final question. What if I want to remove the background?
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Two different answers, according to the interested panel

- on any spb panel (time, weather, favourites and so on) you can revert to the "no background" version setting it to the default from MsM spbpanel background function

- on the professional home, just set it to a solid black bmp
[Windows Mobile Themes] ironhead65:
Seeing this "dual" conversation, I just kept smiling thinking "Echo-Echo-echo"!

:-)

--Ironhead
[Windows Mobile Themes] ironhead65:
What link is that?

Are you using it to determine "which" level you are on? I notice you have what looks like MSKIP's 7 panel pages...so I'm guessing this is indicating which hub you are on, not what page you are on?

Thanks!

--Ironhead
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Nope, that's one of MsM advanced menubars, the numbers do not link to the panel pages...

He's using that fake link to show which page he's on :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] micromacro:
I have created a new panel Lifestyle with 3 pages.

To have information around what page I am visualizing, I have created 3 links (one for each page) that visually help me.

The menu bar (with numbers) at bottom is a manu bar by MSM 5.07, but not has to do with this argument.

The numbers of that menu bar are links to the panels (menu, calendar, task manager, contacts,...), not to pages.

:)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Peterjac:
Diamond Icons

Hi Vostradamus,

Would you be able to post the PNG files for the Diamond Weather that you did some time ago.

Many thanks if you can.

Peter:)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
I'm afraid I don't have those images as PNGs.... back then I found them only in bmp + mask format :(

I can post those ones if you want (but they're the same that can be extracted from the widgets dat files)