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[HTC Excalibur] crz6662:
By the way, I'd sell my Dash for $220 right now.

Like the touch screens better. Not that i dislike the Dash.
[HTC Excalibur] stylez:
Cheap alterantive?

Defo not what your looking @ yeah high specs but the parts are cheap "probably not what stated regards cpu" and can only imagine build quality along with that there most probably will not be custom ROMs available, for $200's you could be looking into TouchPro or a bit cheaper a Kaiser, PPC opens up the world regards pimping and programs since such a larger ammount available.

On that other hand could just buy another Excalibur :D
[HTC Excalibur] Phrack:
PROS:

Dual SIM

Faster CPU than Excalibur

Standard 3.5mm jack (big plus)

Touchscreen AND keyboard

already carrier / app unlocked

CONS:

I've purchased some of these chinese clone-phones and the quality was poor. I have not purchased one from this particular manufacturer however.

I purchased my HTC Excalibur brand new roughly 90 days ago for $120 USD at a local retailer. It came preloaded with Tmobile branded WM6 but box is HTC and phone is solid black as opposed to Tmobile's which has the silver facade. Another retailer in the same area wanted $130 but he had a used one for $75. It looked pretty beat up though and I wanted a new one. As far as I'm concerned for $120 it was money well spent considering the plethora of apps available for it, WIFI and customization. Someday I will flash it, maybe after I buy another phone. I have flashed a few phones in the past but they were spare phones so I didn't care if they were bricked or didn't work 100%.
[HTC Excalibur] HnAw:
i found out another seller with best price $175 included shipping

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http://www.ipmart.com/

i know, it has a risk to buy chinese products, but i ll try it one

also another phone choice:

A9630 Clone

This smart mobile phone affords external GPS and G Sensor. More still, it supports Windows OS 6.1 (CPU: GSM 7225 528 MHZ, 512M ROM, 256M RAM). It is also available for commerce use, as it supports Word, Excel, PPT, PDF file and so on. Equipped with a Scrolled Navigation ball, 2.46 - inch touch screen and 1.3 MP camera with flashlight, it supports WiFi, Java, WinCE, MP3 / MP4 player and FM radio.

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$200 inc. shipping but the scroll ball doesnt fit for me neither the gui like a blackberry over windows original, (but +GPS i should be think the choice a bit :D)

Which chinese phone you choose?
[HTC Excalibur] Mr. Clown:
Hi, I've been looking your thread....are you willing to put you money in these phones :confused:.

Look, these phones are very popular in Honduras US$150 total cost directly imported from China. Let me tell you that some friends have bought them and they just last a couple of months..they have fancy first look, but after 1 or 2 months of usage...they start to have problems (screen, keyboard etc).

I bought my excalibur 3 years ago and this baby still rocks...has survived drops and even some water.Think where you put those golden eggs my friend...like a spanish sayin " lo barato sale caro" (cheapest becomes the more expensive)

Just my 2 cents to your thread :D
[HTC Excalibur] Mikeysm21:
I got mine for £40 from a great ebay webshop named 'Turn On Your Mobile'

It has a load of WM phones that are hard to find on it, but it is a bit of a monopoly weather you find the one that you want..
[HTC Excalibur] HnAw:
i bought it

i got the chinese clon, it is really a good model heh, but it doesnt has the camera program like a dash, it is very simple, is there any way extract camera program and copy to my phone?
[HTC Excalibur] crz6662:
What good is a camera program if there's no lens ????
[HTC Excalibur] Herox:
http://www.pricego.org/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=Dash&click=2
[HTC Excalibur] HnAw:
Well,it is good program only for fun skins (i didnt say its a good camera heh)

if anybody knows how to extract the program tell me how please

145$ in usa, the chinese still is cheap for me ( adding shipping cost + us taxes)
[HTC Excalibur] Mr. Clown:
:eek:...you are rich dude...
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djteotancolis:
i installed the latest cyanogen update. phone is running perfectly but cant get apps2sd run. it is there is my applications menu but i cant select it

i partitioned my memory card the way written in the qoute?

what should be my next step? i tried most of the ways on xda and have failed pls help
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NexusDro:
My current data plan does not allow tethering, more specifically the use of the phone as an internet modem. But I know apps like PDAnet can bypass it and behaves like a mobile web app so that I won't get charged extra. I was wondering if the Froyo's new WiFi hotspot feature behaves like PDAnet.

Thanks!
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] attn1:
yes it does.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DMaverick50:
It works for me too and I'm loving it.

Sorry to get off topic i didn't want to start an entire thread. If I may speculatr; If any of the 4 major carriers were to allow tethering I think its T-Mobile, they are focused on improving their 3g while the others are worried about 4g and Verizon is even making overtures for tiered, limited plans for 4g. I know very little but T-Mobile is finally losing customers and can't afford to be restrictive plus their relatively few subscribers means they are unlikely to have overuse issues that can disrupt service, plus afaik T-Mobile USA doesn't have mobile data plans other than for cell phones. Again this is all speculation and I don't know if carriers have official positions on tethering but T-Mobile just seems to me the most likely to allow it for free, I don't see how it would cost them anything, and with tethering working so well I'd prefer cheap 3g (which is theoretically super fast by the end of 2010) with tethering and unlimited data than 4g, no tethering, more expensive, and tiered.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RashaMatt:
[stock Google Nexus One (not rooted or unlocked) on AT&T 3G (without a tethering plan)]

I have used PdaNet for a few weeks with great success, but it is only a tether, not a hotspot.

I manually updated to FRF91 a couple days ago and have been using the native Froyo WiFi Hotspot functionality instead of PdaNet.

Overall it seems to work, though there has been occasional weirdness. Sometimes when I try to connect my Windows 7 laptop to the AndroidAP hotspot, it takes forever, and then I get "limited connectivity - no internet access". And sometimes it just works fine. At least once there was no default gateway set after "connecting" (so, no data!). I do not know where the problem is - Windows, Android, or AT&T.

I have read elsewhere (from a Google source) that the carriers CAN SEE if you have the tethering/hotspot function enabled, and in fact THEY CAN DISABLE the functionality remotely. I have also seen other info that contradicts this, though I am predisposed to believe the (claimed) Google source. It doesn't make sense to me that the carriers would allow this functionality onto the phone if they could not control it.

We shall see.....
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jigglywiggly:
Just a few questions about Sprint.

Now, here is my question:

This phone well is nice.

Anyway, if I go to Sprint, do I HAVE to have a 2 year contract with them? They suck hard, reception in my area is balls(Though good at my house, bad at places where I go, it has at&T like service)

This phone also has the potential to become SEVERELY outdated in 2 years. (Mainly because being tide down to a 2 year contract is stupid, although my Iphone 3g doesn't feel too old even though it's been 2 years)

Not to mention snapdragons at 45nm are coming out at the end of this year.

So what is your input? Do I have to have a 2 year contract?

Also I plan on rooting this phone once the guy at grack releases the exploit.

I hope someone makes a stock Android available for this phone with Froyo.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BenjRubenstein:
Your only way out is to sell it to me. I'd be happy to take the phone off your hands and solve all of your problems :)

Seriously... PM me :)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zcarman:
Well lets just go through these one at a time...

1) You have a 30 day money back guarantee... USE IT! Take it everywhere you usually go, if the coverage is sub-par, take it back.

2) You do not have to start a 2 year contract - you can go month to month, but the do not offer subsidies on the phones if you do this. The retail cost on the Evo is $449.

3) If you sign a 2 year agreement, after 6 months of paying on time, you become a Premier Member which allows you to update your device at the 2 year price every year - with the addition of another year on your contract - it takes the 1 year and adds 1 more to it every time you do it.

4) The TV out features appear to be VERY limited at this point - videos and gallery only at launch. I'm sure the kind people here will have it rooted and figure out a way to get more through the TV, but for now, that's what we have.

Overall, I switched from Verizon to Sprint in Feburary and couldn't be happier. My service is just as good. Customer service has been wonderful and my bill is half what it was on Verizon.

All I can do is stress that 30 day trial period. Make sure you take the phone everywhere that you go - and then some!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pingpongboss:
I hope you did your research OR you have personally gotten month-by-month with Sprint.

Many people on other forums have reported calling Sprint and asking for month-by-month or 1-year contracts. My girlfriend being one of them. However, Sprint has told everyone that all plans must come with a 2-year contract. It seems that Sprint does things differently than T-mobile.

If you are not just speaking hypothetically, we would love to hear more about this "month to month" plan that you mention.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blkswanpres:
Where are you at with bad Sprint reception, mine just roams on other networks, I always have signal and I live in a small town in the south. As for the iPhone 4g, I thought it had the same internals as the iPad.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hokansoc:
I believe the plan they're referring to isn't really a plan.. but if you've already served your 2 year contract, and remain with sprint, then it becomes month-to-month on whatever plan you had before.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bernechad:
So the EVO will be "SEVERELY outdated in 2 years", but the iphone has a lot of speculation?

lol what do you think that iphone will be like in 2 years? That's right, Apple will have released 2 more models after it.

That point is moot, both phones will be outdated in 2 years. Hell, both of them will be outdated by December of this year. They're phones, that's the nature of the beast.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johnstevens:
As would I. I'm seriously considering paying the ETF on my AT&T contract. But there is ZERO chance I would ever be locked to Sprint for a year let alone two...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sporkman:
iphone = LOL please

yea if you enjoy a closed off OS
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] beerock:
I have been with sprint for over 10years and really they have been one of the better for me..... I also had at&t and tmo through this same time and hated both of them more than sprint.....

AT&T are crooks and tmo just stinks, iphone is cool if your a fanboy but really it is quite bland to me.:rolleyes:

I have had many phones with sprint and the only way I ever have a new commitment is if I get the phone at a discounted price.......I bought my hero from and individual and it did not reset my commitment, but that doesnt mean they do not require a commitment on the Google IO phones. They shouldnt imo, because they did not subsidize it, althought this could be required for a new customer.

i have never seen the contract be associated with the plan just the device and number.

One more point: The etf with sprint is still one of the lower as I have not heard they have raised it like ATT and tmo, so in all fairness even if you terminate early you should easily recomp that by selling the EVO if you dont like the service.

I too hate ETF but its a small cost considering monthy recurring charges on a smartphone, even though sprint is about half of the other guys. I have 4 lines all smartphones with sprint and I pay just over what my iphone bill was with AT&T so this imo opinion that is worth a lot!:D
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] apexi350z:
Pppplease.. This phone has the most features than any phone to date, not to mention what we already know form iPhone HD leak. I say this phone will be kicking ass for more than 2 yrs!

The solve your worries, just sell the phone, and get whatever phone is out for your carrier, that you think has the best coverage in your area..
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] emac11:
I never understood why people bash Sprint so much. I never have problems with dropped calls or lack of signal. It seems reliable to me. The biggest problem with Sprint for me has always been their selection of phones doesn't match the other carriers, and the Evo should change that.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zone23:
Guy says he can't get a signal in whatever cave he lives in so "Sprint Sucks" please go to AT&T. Bye...

I'm actually surprised that the first few posters were as kind as they were.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] myth_mn:
If you have the phone already just use it month to month, the 2 year contract is only for the discounts on a new phone.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] misticjeff:
We've heard that but I for one cannot find any printed data from Sprint that says I can bring in my phone and start a month to month deal with them. Would you have any information or a link to such?

Thanks
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] myth_mn:
iPhone... ewww. Even if it does come to sprint, I won't be hopping on that bandwagon anytime soon, or ever.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] myth_mn:
When you add a line, upgrade, or purchase new service you have to option to purchase the phone at a discounted price but with a contract. If you have a phone already, or buy it without the discount a contract is not required.

I've moved back to Sprint in the pass using an old phone without any contracts.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheBiles:
Does ANYONE keep their same phones for the entire two-year contract period? Phones from two years ago are ancient. The longest I've had a phone since my Treo is like 8 months with my Centro and a year with my BlackBerry Curve 8330.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KwestJones:
OFF TOPIC

You mean does anyone ON HERE keep their phones for 2 years. Several people at my job still carry razors. DOH!!!

Funny thing is..they get better signals in our lab area than any other phone.

ON TOPIC:

I got nothin...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aldo37:
This goes against everything I've read in other forums:

http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1647582

And several Sprint CSR's have said a new customer needs to sign up with a 2 year contract.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] misticjeff:
Exactly... a lot of folks keep saying you dont have to sign up for a 2yr contract but no one can offer anything in print to back it up.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Xenithflare:
As far as I know, if you sign a BRAND NEW contract (IE- never been with Sprint before), it's required to sign a 2-year agreement, so you might as well get a discount on the phone. There's always the ETF if you change your mind down the road.

If you're currently a Sprint customer, once your contract expires it's considered a "month-to-month" payment plan. At that point, you can buy a phone outright without a contract extension. I'm not 100% on if you can continue a plan without if you were a previous customer or not... but I dont think there is any sort of paperwork stating any of this, to be honest.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tilton53:
This is true. I have been with sprint for almost 8 years and at different time have been out of contract and just bought a phone off ebay myself. They will allow you to go month to month if you don't get a discounted phone.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] misticjeff:
If you've never been a customer before?? I'm skeptical to say the least.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheBiles:
He just said he's been a customer for 8 years. They never allow new customers to go monthly.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Damn, you have to get a 2 year contract if you are not a Sprint customer I just called them :(
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheBiles:
I don't quite understand why people are shocked by this fact. Which carrier actually allows you to open a new line of service with no commitment?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
T-mobile, metro pcs.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Khemistry:
I'm not aware of T-Mobile allowing that other than on their crappy "Flex Plan"...my friend is on that plan and it's a major screw over. He has to pay FULL PRICE for any new phone he wants and that completely counters any benefit of that plan.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Even more plus plans are month to month.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheBiles:
Yeah, I'm sure that it has been mentioned in this thread, but getting a new contracted EVO and then paying the ETF to cancel is still cheaper than buying the phone for full retail. For this reason I don't see a problem people have with signing a new two-year deal.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bp3dots:
So why even waste your time? Sell the EVO to someone who wants it and buy yourself something good on a carrier that works in your area. It's pretty retarded to have a phone with crappy service just because its cool.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swcowger:
I agree with Bp3, just sell the phone. Jiggly are you a DEV. becouse if you are this kind of a retarded post? IMO
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dukins:
I'm in the situation. i have a cool htc HD2 but att coverage is horrible in my area so I'm giving it up for the evo. hopefully Sprint is 10 times better. never again with att.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeffla:
Isn't your HD2 only able to use half of AT&T's bands (ie 1900, not 850)? So I would imagine coverage would suffer greatly.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Joecrack305:
if you are a new customer no matter what your signing a 2 year contract, no ifs, ands, or buts. if already been thru this a million times with customers trying to get nextel direct connect, and not wanting to sign a contract.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sn95chico:
about sprint

just called sprint and no month to month on new service

sorry guys
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Sure, I made a few Android apps, basic ones far to get used to the differences between this and stock java:

Bash.org grab quote, display to screen.

And I am working on something else, I am just sharing my thoughts, no need to get hostile.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BrianDigital:
so so wrong, once you cancel you will have to pay the remaining cost of the phone up to full retail, plus the ETF fee, remember they check credit they will also report any unpaid bills to your credit report
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nachyochez:
Completely incorrect.

Once you have paid for the device ($199 after $100 MIR) it is your device. If you cancel within 30 days you simply return the device and get a refund (sometimes by mail). If you wait until after the 30 days you pay the prorated ETF. So long as you pay the ETF and final bill, you are NOT reported negatively to credit.

If, and ONLY if you cancel within the 30 days and do NOT return the device would you be charged the full retail price of a device.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Xenithflare:
UNLESS you purchase the phone at a Radioshack, in which case they still have ownership of the phone for 90 days from date of purchase. So if you keep the phone 31 days, you can cancel the contract, pay the ETF, and keep the phone... BUT RS will charge you $200 for the phone. So 91 days is the minimum length of time you have to keep the contract through Radioshack. Sorta balances out occasionally, since their phones are cheaper.

I think he meant REAL carriers. Both of those companies have horrible coverage, and are more suited to local prepaid networks than national carriers. Sure, you can go month-to-month without a contract, but there are more downsides than ups, personally. Coming from someone who used to sell T-Mobile.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nachyochez:
Yeah...one more for the list of reasons not to buy from Radio Shack...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Classick206:
T-Mobile isn't a REAL carrier? :rolleyes: Metro PCS isn't but T-Mobile is up there with Sprint- maybe even better.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bp3dots:
If you dont keep your contract for 90 days, we dont get paid for the subsidy we gave you on the phone. That $200 charge recoups some of our loss. Not that most customers care, but consider that your actions also affect the guys trying to make a living selling this stuff.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] heygrl:
I guess Verizon and AT&T which both offer month to month no-commitment options aren't "REAL" carriers? Spare me.. if we want to talk about "REAL" Sprint is so insecure about their service that they require a 2 year commitment with ETF even if you bring your own stuff.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nachyochez:
Sincerest apologies, I'm just not a fan of ANY third party retailer. From my experience, purchasing from these types of locations causes far more issue than any amount of money you might "save".

It's a personal opinion backed only be my own (and a few people whom I know's) experiences, but one I'm sadly very very attached to.

You have it a little off, so I'll explain: Sprint does not allow ANT device into their network which does not originate from within our own inventory system (IE: Buy from VZW or Metro PCS and activate on Sprint). A large deal of this is because the current billing system is actually the one used by Nextel (for accuracy and security reasons), and since Nextel was the only "large" iDEN carrier such a feature was never needed.

Now, this means there are only two ways you can be a new customer and already have a device:

1) Have one remaining from a previous account which means it is most likely aged and missing a large amount of new features -or-

2) Gained one from a third party source (Friend, Ebay, ETC.)

Since the friend/Ebay can't fully be trusted to give you a device which is still under warranty and all Sprint guarantees they offer the discounted price to you as a new customer, meaning at the very least you can get a cheap backup phone should your own give out.

Plus, why bother trying to gain a short term customer who's only going to walk away the next chance they get? That creates unneeded churn...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] heygrl:
Don't try to feed people baloney with this garbage about "phone can't be trusted" - you can sign up for a 2 year agreement and get a new phone with discount at any of the carriers.

So that's nothing but foolishness.

You can also just buy the device outright from Sprint, it doesn't have to be second hand.

I never said they allowed Verizon (etc.) phones on their network.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] newone757:
are you serious?? what other carrier allows you to try their service for full month with absolutely NO COST to you if you decide not to keep it. not a dime, not even prorated minutes. NOBODY except Sprint, if that isnt faith in thier service i dont know what is