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[XPERIA X10 General] Bialynia:
SE puts out a great phone that everyone knew had Android 1.6 on it, it then goes and says that it will update to Andorid 2.1 by the end of the year with the addition of HD video recording, and during the week that Froyo is released it states that it will update to later versions of Android after the 2.1 release. Yet people still decide to "hate" them and they claim to know that SE will never upgrade past 2.1 (despite SE's continued claims throughout the X10 development process that the phone will get updated during its useful life, and that this will be a break from the past). Despite all of this people "hate" them and will "never trust them again" etc. SE has not broken any promise to me regarding the X10 and all these prepubescent tantrums regarding Android 2.1 and 2.2 are just soooo annoying.
[XPERIA X10 General] gregy74:
I agree with you. Back to HTC.

The only great thing about this phone is support from XDA developers.
[XPERIA X10 General] kevor:
I support this fully...stop yapping about the phone not having 2.1..you allready knew this when you purchased your phone. It will come in due time. Im super happy with my phone regardless of the OS version!
[XPERIA X10 General] soeuriffin:
cook rom

If they can cook rom like htc touch hd it will be great coz befor when I first bought htc touch hd the battery was short life after I flashed a new rom it last longer I can put it standby 2 or 3day and I can listen to music more than 6hours so I hope they release cooked rom, cos I love SE x10 Music, Conection, Camera, Internet are only device in one hand...but I hope SE will release update to fix it...
[XPERIA X10 General] Willey1986:
I'm happy with my x10 too, but SE promised us an update right after the release an Q4 is not right after. So I'm not angry about the x10 but SE.
[XPERIA X10 General] Bialynia:
The phone will likely see about 3 firmware updates before the Q4 Android update, don't confuse the two.
[XPERIA X10 General] visitador02:
I bought the phone knowing that SE may not keep its time line promise (I read the issues with the X1 etc, etc). So, that's fine.

But what I wonder is why take such a long time. It is not rocket science to see what SE did with 1.6. It just added two special apps: Timescape and Mediascape. Does it really takes that long to adopt these apps to 2.1 and beyond?

Androids is like Windows, Google will continue adding updates. In the PC world, when Microsoft adds an update, you don't see Dell, HP etc delaying the update because their PCs have some custom software?

I think the SE engineers in Sweden are taking too many vacations.
[XPERIA X10 General] Tjotte:
The reason why SE did not launge this phone with 2.1 is becouse HTC had prio on it untill Desire was released. But still, should it take 6+months to transfer 2 apps and blueish theme? But as many others have said, i knew what i was buying and i chose camera and screen over software, + im totally bored sick with the sense on HTC

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[XPERIA X10 General] Bialynia:
It shouldn't, but that is not all SE is doing, they are adding HD video recording and other features in one big update instead of doing it piecemeal.
[XPERIA X10 General] cashaw:
Not just those, the X10 has a number of functionalities related to the camera and media which SE had to develop for the X10 because 1.6 does not support them.

My guess is that the work SE is doing is to implement 2.1 functionality and remove its own workarounds due to the lack of support in 1.6.

No doubt this involves lots of rewriting of existing code....

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[XPERIA X10 General] Bikram:
Given the time the phone took to come out, I think they should have released it with 2.0. Well I knew that this phone comes with 1.6 so not complaining. I am waiting for the phone to be rooted. Stock rom are always bad, even if SE gives us 2.2 now, I am pretty sure it will be laggy and crappy.

So there is no point in complaining for not getting 2.2. Instead, I wish there was a way to ask them for the RSA key for flashing my phone. I don't want their precious warranty any more :p
[XPERIA X10 General] jkr284:
No we expect a flagship phone to get fixed quickly, it was released with broken photo tagging (doesnt save tagged people), laggy timescape, terrible battery life. All their smartphones are always broken upon release period
[XPERIA X10 General] Sgt.EddieWinslow:
I wish SE would release 2 firmware. One vanilla Android and 1 with their own user experience. I hate their custom UI

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[XPERIA X10 General] visitador02:
Ah forgot that. But if so, why didn't SE do anything about the Bluetooth functionality? It is not in 1.6, so given the time SE had to bring the phone to market, SE could have easily bought a third party license and provided full Bluetooth (such as able to voice call using headset and seeing song track names on the MW600).
[XPERIA X10 General] tomdot:
Word. Their so called interface is quite pointless. I have replaced the Launcher with HelixLauncher 1.2 for DONUT. Much more pleasing
[XPERIA X10 General] Willey1986:
Same here. Using helix as home, seesmic as Twitter client because timescape is useless as a twitterclient, using Facebook app for Facebook for the same reasons and my standard music player is tunewiki because mediascape has no widget.

If I could change the blue backgrounds everywhere I would definitely go for that too, so why wait for these useless customizations?
[XPERIA X10 General] junexyz:
music apps

hi i have this apps called 3 and it has 3D UI if you don't have album theres an option that apps allow you to download specific album art hehehehe love this.....

i got this on slideme.... :D:D
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
It seems to me that all of your "issues" aren't widespread, and being taken care of in the next firmware update. Get a grip on life dude.

So, the million dollar question is, why the hell did you buy this phone? Sony didn't hide any of this stuff. It was ALL IN THE OPEN. Their entire marketing was around Timescape, Mediascape, and the interface.

You could be doing exactly the same thing on a T-Mobile G1, HTC Magic, or Nexus One. So my question is, why the hell did you buy a phone willingly that has 1.6 and many custom applications when you could have bought a phone that had 2.1 and no stock applications and saved the world some whiny teenager angst?
[XPERIA X10 General] Bennachie:
Don't hold back, tell it like it is! ;) :D
[XPERIA X10 General] piercewei:
It's no problem for battery life. For instance of my X10i, the drainage of battery is around 1% per hr. when the phone is idle. If the APN is teuned off, the drainage would be even less. I haven't tested music play time yet, but my X10i is able to play vedio for more than 5 hr. X10 abosolutely meets the basic battery requirement.

I suggest the people who has battery issues find a good task manager app (like taskiller, ATK etc.) and set auto kill to make sure all the unnecessary process be killed when the screen turns off.
[XPERIA X10 General] MeZmeriZe_:
I work in a border area for phone reception and as a result my phone battery is less than 12 hours.. but that is to be expected. The phone has to keep scaling up and down to try to get a signal and that chews battery.

I changed to GDE as home and it did improve somewhat.

HOME: GDE, beautiful widgets.

Music: 3/cubed/rockon (not sure which is the real name)

keyboard: Better keyboard

For a task killer I suggest an app called "System" as together with my music player listed above, it's one of the best designed android apps I've seen.

I don't run many widgets, but I do have 2 or 3 and I've seen a noticeable improvement in the phone responsiveness and battery life since I did it this way.

I started out loving timescape and media scape but I've since replaced both with better apps I've found so I don't really get any benefit from the SE "experience". Sadly, my mate with his old $29pm Magic now has 2.1 on it and all the same apps as me and it's now as fast as my $800 X10 in addition to the extra functionality.

Long story short, after a couple of months experience, I'd take vanilla 2.1/2.2 android over Sony's much older and limited ux at the drop of a hat, because once you get used to the phone and personalize it, there isn't much of the Sony experience left to justify it's existence and it's not worth the massive time delay in update releases.

If/when someone gets root on this thing I'll be running CM6 as soon as it's reasonably safe to do so.
[XPERIA X10 General] Willey1986:
I bought the X10 because of the great display, camera and design and hardware. I couldn't test the phone before and thought that timescape is a twitter, facebook and emailclient in 1 single app. At themoment it is just a laggy overview app. Mediascape is great, but why isn't there a widget?

The standard homescreen is okay but i wanted 5 screens so I installed helix.

Now I ask you why people buy an iPhone and jailbreak it? They knew before that they cannot change the design...
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
The point of jailbreaking is that they CAN change the design, and do what they want with the phone.

I'm not saying I use any of the apps either, but I bought the phone because it's on my carrier, it's Android, and it has a beautiful screen and excellent camera.

I don't get the hate over Timescape... the only reason it "lags" is because it has to download massive amounts of data. (When you have 700+ facebook friends, 13 twitter friends, and 14 mixi friends, that data is really slow coming).
[XPERIA X10 General] rynoon:
Perhaps it's more useful for Facebook, but for those of us without (Yes, we exist ;) ) and who only use Twitter it can be a little annoying. With Seesmic it's a single click for me to see the first five or six tweets from my friends. With Timescape it's somewhere in the area of fifteen or sixteen.

If you turn off Twitter and use it solely for viewing the history of phone activities it's a little more useful, but I find that goal can be accomplished better in other applications. It's not that I hate Timescape, but I don't find it very useful.
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
Yeah, I removed the widget and don't use it either, mostly because I don't make phone calls, use email, or SMS... the joy of being in Japan, I guess. I use a local program to access mail..

And, Seesmic is great!
[XPERIA X10 General] MeZmeriZe_:
One thing that seemed to make Timescape and indeed the whole phone more resonsive, is that I tossed out the Class 2 SD card that came with the phone and installed a Class6 16gig that I got on ebay for less than 50 dollars AU.

Odd because HTC give out the Magic (a low end android) with a class 6 card, but it seems that SE cheaped out and supplied the X10 (a "high end" android) with a class 2 which has 1/3rd of the transfer rate.
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
My Xperia came with a class 6 16GB card.
[XPERIA X10 General] JUICHI:
Japan is Always one step after rest of world! Mine was a Class 2 8GB,changed with a Class2 16GB,not fast but I have almost space.

Hey,but it's possible configure Mixi on Timescape? (0_o) or I lost something?
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
I think it was an add-on from Docomo... but yeah, my Mixi contacts come up in Timescape when they update their pages.
[XPERIA X10 General] sergiu84:
Still waiting on the "next couple of weeks" update, which is becoming a bit silly. While I accept that they're doing nothing wrong as such by taking so long (they're still doing better than Samsung I guess!), it'd just be awfully nice of them to allow easy root access. Ain't gonna happen though.
[XPERIA X10 General] :
@ EveryOne

I have got some Good News for you. Today there was an Android Meet organized by Sony Ericsson India here in New Delhi, India. And they Finally conformed that the are really committed to Bring Update to XPeria X10 throughout it’s lifecyle.

They also conformed that, the small update, would be out by next week. Although, no word on what the Update would consist of!

And the Major Update which would have Android 2.1 will be Q4. (Yes, they said Android 2.1! ) They also Conformed No Multi-Touch for Xperia X10. I hope this should stop all the rumors bout Xperia X10.

http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/produ...ade-in-q4-2010/comment-page-24/#comment-45522
[XPERIA X10 General] lornova:
Also your car will consume very few gasoline if you keep it in your garage.

This is a dumb advice. What you call "unnecessary process" is the reason to have a smartphone: so APN has to be on, with email, news feed, social networks...

People typically just want that their battery last at least a full day with an average usage, an absolutely reasonable wish.
[XPERIA X10 General] Willey1986:
I would be happy if my x10 would lose 1% over night not 30+ in flight mode.
[XPERIA X10 General] Chuteboxe39:
thanks for the update. some good news with some bad. how can they be so shortsighted as to release 2.1 later this year ?! good lord. At the very least if it's gonna be that late release the most updated version of Android. Oh well
[XPERIA X10 General] extreme22:
no multi touch bull crap, loots root this *****
[XPERIA X10 General] tnleeuw:
I just wish they decided to skip on 2.1 and go straight for 2.2 :-(

They're always versions behind with Android platform releases, and it's hurting their own sales and competitiveness in the market.

It's not just me wanting a fast FroYo 2.2 Android on my phone: it's actually hurting their sales, not skipping 2.1.

BTW, to those who think that HTC is so much more with the program, how many Hero owners out there have already received their Android 2.1 Eclair upgrade?

Oh...

Software Quality Control costs time.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EdWaRdW818:
Story, in key point format:

-Just moved, no internet at home yet (in fact I've been using tether since I only check e-mail and use FB anyway)

-At cafe... Already closed, but they agreed to let me stay about 5 minutes past closing time, no time to search. NO N00B/"SEARCH FIRST" COMMENTS PLEASE.

-Don't have any old phones

-Just got a new girlfriend and didn't think much about emergency expenses and spent most of my $ on wine n' dine with her (but at least I got some worthy "dessert", but that's another story).

-Just lost my job a week after meeting her (I stayed up all night, eventually gave into a "food coma" [see above] and came into work late) LOLOL... Woulda had a new phone budget if I was around for another 2 weeks, but noooo....

Anyway:

-Tried to install CM5 onto G1

-Installed it with the CM bootloader (or something like that, it had an orange font)

-Downgraded to RC29, successfully loaded AMON_RA

-Installed DangerSPL, rebooted per the instructions

-Stuck on the boot screen for almost exactly half an hour (5 mins after 8PM until 8:30PM), said "WTF" and pulled battery out

-According to the first few search results, my phone is "fully bricked", as in end+back/home/camera/whatever doesn't work (although when you push end+trackball the blue light turns on, whatever that means)

With that in mind, what should I do? Any hope?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Acecalibur:
Hmm well Im not an expert like most of these other guys by ANY means, but in my experience I've learned that removing the battery during a percieved "hangup" is a sure fire way to brick a G1. Trust me Ive done it, not fun.

If you can make it to the recovery screen somehow, theres still hope. On the Cyanogen Wiki, I believe theres a type of method for reflashing a rom, by booting while holding the camera button. I would recommend researching that.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lbcoder:
Pulling the battery had nothing to do with it. The combination of 1.33.2005 SPL + 1.x radio is incapable of booting any known kernel. The misc partition was configured to boot-recovery, which overrides any key presses. So when it starts up, it figures it should launch recovery, which boots far enough for the SPL to think that its booted (otherwise it would force you into fastboot).

Your only hope right now is to jtag the thing and either wipe your misc partition or load a compatible SPL that allows fastboot.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BoomBoomPOW:
You forgot to flash a compatible radio!
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lbcoder:
The funny thing is that if he had done the first sensible steps of installing an engineering bootloader (one with fastboot) and wiping the recovery partition (to force it into fastboot when recovery failed due to being wiped), he'd be fine.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EdWaRdW818:
DAMNITS!! I only read the "steps" portion of the instructions on the Cyanogen Wiki, which didn't even include the "radio" portion of the equation (I edited it just to avoid other people having the same problems).

Jtag? Sounds horribly hard; baking it and taking out a ROM chip? Wow.

"-According to the first few search results, my phone is "fully bricked", as in

end+back/home/camera/whatever doesn't work

"

Well, I was (somewhat) following the steps of the Cyanogen wiki.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lbcoder:
Your information is wrong. There's no baking, there's no removing chips. There is just interfacing with the board. If you're handy with a soldering iron, its a cakewalk.

Finding all your information in one location? What makes you think that your SINGLE SOURCE of information was accurate or correct? For all you know, it was written with the INTENTION of screwing you up.
[EVO 4G General] YoungAceAtlanta:
So i have sprint at the moment.. but im not able to get it for the full upgrade price of $199.00. I would have to wait to Almost 2 years from now.

One of my buddies is approve by sprint for 2 lines. no deposit, And he want to help me out..But he dont need sprint, he happy with t-mobile.

So if we go and pre-order the evo. and start a new contract. Since sprint got a 30days money back. and pay $199.00 and activate it on the 4th.

Could i cancel it with in 30days and keep the phone and just phone swap on my current line and add the $10. ??
[EVO 4G General] oohoy:
i'd say no, cancel within 30 days and u'll find sprint charging ur buddy retail price for the phone if u decide to keep it
[EVO 4G General] psycho9x:
If you want the phone that bad just buy it at full retail
[EVO 4G General] lstrike:
Pay retail for the Evo. Sell your Moment on eBay or Craiglist and you will get a couple hundred bucks to help offset the cost. Simple.
[XPERIA X10 General] nosidefcp:
hello

today i'm going to buy my new phone because i've sold yesterday my samsung i8910. i was going on the htc desire but i've see that xperia is already rootable. thanks to that. can you tell me if now, with the root, we will have2.1 sooner than we expect and custom roms? the hardware of the xperia is better than the desire but i was going on the desire because of the faster and more actual os. thanks
[XPERIA X10 General] Higgins12:
The X10 is NOT rooted yet :-) people working on it but it is difficult.
[XPERIA X10 General] nosidefcp:
so what's your opinion, should i go for the xperia and wait for the root or should i buy the desire?
[XPERIA X10 General] ll_l_x_l_ll:
its risky. the X10 might never get rooted. however.

X10 rooted = million times better than desire/nexus

X10 not rooted = POS you should avoid. unless the phone design is the only thing matters to you
[XPERIA X10 General] Tjotte:
I have my hopes up for the froyo petition, especially answer to that. Ofc nothing confirming but atleast it was'nt a defenitive no.. still, if you want an up to date phone X10 is not your choice as of right now. Sad thing couse its one damn fine device and im pleased with it, but ofc i'd like to see some updates soon

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[XPERIA X10 General] arcticreaver:
serious hardware that is crippled by an outdated OS. if it would get 2.1 or if the OS gets a fix for the laggy interface, i would say it's a good buy.

you should wait and see what's up.

because if this phone is rooted, it's a different ball game.
[XPERIA X10 General] nosidefcp:
So, what ods am i looking?i'm afraid i buy the desire and tomorrow the x10 gets rooted. Lol. I've read that paul is working on this. Should i have hope on paul?
[XPERIA X10 General] Deleted member 1719473:
You must have hope in people :D
[XPERIA X10 General] gaolinde:
think you should give yourself a timeline

if paul is not able to root and SE is not giving a better announcement before your timeline

then you give up x10

for us user with a X10 already we can only pray=..=
[XPERIA X10 General] ll_l_x_l_ll:
sorry but is paul even working on the phone? from what i understood he doesnt even have the phone and people were thinking to buy him one.
[XPERIA X10 General] riz157:
lol SE have alot to answer for what a let down. Mind you I think if SE announced another fantastic android handset to be launched, with better specs then x10, i fear most people would probably fall for that aswell.
[XPERIA X10 General] andy8271:
people need to stop moaning . x10 does everything it needs to do and does it great. the only lag is when using timescape (and se promise to fix this in the next update as they managed to make it not lag on the x10 mini and mini pro). i dont use timescape anyway

with the htc ime keyboard my x10 is great. i will only start feeling let down when everyone else is getting 2.2 and working flash. at the moment though im having no problems at all with SEs version of 1.6

also got to consider that x10 is about £100 cheaper than a desire/nexus one

root will come
[XPERIA X10 General] riz157:
Unless the prices have dropped the last i checked x10 was more expensive then desire.
[XPERIA X10 General] gaolinde:
I think he is you may check his twitter:p
[XPERIA X10 General] gaolinde:
you really not experience any lag at all in lock screen?:confused:

and for why x10 mini is not lagging there's a thread already told us it's the different of resolution make x10 mini smoother than x10 and I'm convinced.

and man if you can get a x10 cheaper than a nexus one for £100 get me 1 please i'll more than happy to have one:p
[XPERIA X10 General] nosidefcp:
i've checked paul's twitter and i've seen is last message saying "Gah, every time I think i've cracked the X10 root, it slips away! :-(

about 18 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone "

what does this means?
[XPERIA X10 General] tuxStyle:
It means that he believed he was so close to root it but something happened and he didn't.

I guess he didn't give up.
[XPERIA X10 General] gaolinde:
for me it looks like at least he's definitely trying

shouldn't we be grateful since he is not paid and doing that for us??
[XPERIA X10 General] Bialynia:
You're ridiculous.
[XPERIA X10 General] andy8271:
no lag at all when not using timescape. no task manager either becausr that seemed to kill battery

i said 100 cheaper not 100 only ! just look on uk ebay. i got my x10 for £300 on release week still boxed and sealed , theres plenty of them selling for just under 300 now. desire and nexus are still around 400
[XPERIA X10 General] rocketpaul:
Not on uk ebay, Desire sells for £350-400 average. The xperia x10 is £270-310. Nexus 1 £400+
[XPERIA X10 General] riz157:
Sorry I was refering to brand new from store, yes but you're right the price has dropped considerably on second hand. I've managed to pick one for less then 200 without box though.
[XPERIA X10 General] rocketpaul:
how lol? from where?
[XPERIA X10 General] gaolinde:
ok i'll try not to launch timescape see whether i can really get lag free or not:D

and then look at the price margin between new and second hand set it does explain something:rolleyes:
[XPERIA X10 General] Aztriltus:
I do not have lag in the lock screen. But for timescape, I don't know if my timescape is laggy as I find it quite smooth to be honest. Am using the R1FB001 firmware.

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