yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Desire Android Development] stewcp:
You should be fine to install without a wipe... but its advisable to backup just incase!
[Desire Android Development] kewell79:
i dont have that problem
[Desire Android Development] ulrar:
Defrost 0.7 full rom mirror, uvoc_no_audiomod

(France, 100 Mb/s)
[Desire Android Development] indiewhore:
Looks like there is a general market problem at the moment http://gizmodo.com/5558236/applications-disappearing-from-android-market
[Desire Android Development] asci:
After a full wipe still no microphone working...

:(
[Desire Android Development] DocRambone:
Few issues i noticed with this ROM:

* BT will pair but can not connect to BT headsets

* Wired headphone buttons not functional

* Some reboots when opening "heavy" web pages

But VERY speedy :)

Very nice start of a fully ported froyo for Desire.
[Desire Android Development] Laridia:
In still only see 4.9d for HAVS so suggest you give it a little while for everything to update :)

Looking forward to trying it out!
[Desire Android Development] richardtrip:
Uploaded them again (module version was wrong). All good now (only HAVS for now).
[Desire Android Development] Dragooon123:
So kernel source for 4.9e HAVS is bravonew? or would it be msm-2.6.35-bravo-havs?
[Desire Android Development] richardtrip:
bravonew

10char
[Desire Android Development] richardtrip:
Only havs for now.
[Desire Android Development] Latty:
Hrm, I got a random reset within 1/2hr of using 4.9e HAVS, 1113MHz, but had zero issues with 4.9a-d HAVS earlier...

Gonna test it a bit longer and see if it happens again
[Desire Android Development] jcrompton:
I keep getting the random resets with 4.9e, as well.

Sorry if this is a stupid question but is there a way to re download 4.9c and 4.9d - I never downloaded them when they were available on Defrost Setup
[Desire Android Development] jazha:
http://xda.richardtrip.org/kernels/
[Desire Android Development] ajanu:
If I am already running DeFrost, then I make an Ext3 partition on the SD card, will DeFrost notice and use it right away or do I need to re-flash for it to find the partition?
[Desire Android Development] Dragooon123:
Had a random BSOD. Was fine all night, turned on Wi-Fi in the morning and turned in Nimbuzz. Received a chat notification and it didn't come back up.
[Desire Android Development] Latty:
Had a few more random reboots since then, so I'm gonna switch back to 4.9d for stability
[Desire Android Development] @ngel:
Another HAVS (4.9e) ride, another sudden lockdown. No last_kmsg, as usual.

Switching back to SVS, which is simply perfect.
[Desire Android Development] rPAD:
Using HAVS 4.9e 1113Mhz, No issues at all. No lockups and everything is running much faster. Thought id post because it seems that something is different with this one. Everytime i try using HAVS and overclock, the phone usually hangs. Have been using the phone a lot and its still running great.
[Desire Android Development] Vaedryn:
Good morning, I'm on it since yesterday and defrost times and am quite excited come from LeeDroid. Now I got a little, but for me a big problem. I use hand cents as an SMS program, sending SMS input has otherwise always my LED blinking blue lights on it since I DeeFrost they've Steady blue, settings remain as they were also LeeDroid. Any ideas what could be lying?

Otherwise, thank here again for the good RoM

Mfg Kjetal
[Desire Android Development] Link6969:
Thanks from Spain for the rom
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
No matter what I do, I can't seem to clear uninstalled apps from the market. Anyonelse had this?
[Desire Android Development] Marsbar:
Please tell me it's that simple *lol*

I was just about to post a last_kmsg from 4.9d from last night. Shan't bother now :)

Flashing 4.9e now, will keep you updated.
[Desire Android Development] Emanuele3000:
when the next release? What is the difference between SVS and havs?
[Desire Android Development] Marsbar:
You're kidding, right?
[Desire Android Development] buzmay:
LOL, you should check the last hundred posts, basically it has been a big discussion about it here.

However myself and probably all of us have been as new as you on this, so I would give you my advice. Try to use them and test them and the best one it fits you, for instance in performance or battery drain then the one you keep. Basically SVS is a very stable kernel, HAVS keeps your phone faster and uses less battery life however the phone can black out.

I have been since yesterday in the latest HAVS kernel 4.9 e and my Desire works great no BSOD nor antyhing

Thanks to all the kernel team for its great work and continuous update :)
[Desire Android Development] chasabi:
Hi Guys

I'm new to the forums and I'm running DeFroST 4.9 and loving it. The only thing I don't like is the messaging app and the keyboard. Is there anyway I can use the stock messaging app?

Thanks
[Desire Android Development] buzmay:
As a suggestion it would be great if the new htc sense the one that connects to htcsense.com comes in version 5.0

:D

And I might be a pain in the ass but if bluetooth transfer and MMS could be fixed, well that would be even than better.
[Desire Android Development] EViollet:
Recommended radio

Hi.

Running

Does anyone know why Richard recommends the 5.11.05.14 radio?

Has this got something to do with the RILs that are implemented in the ROM? (or perhaps I'm just saying rubbish... ;) ).

I'm currently using 5.09.05.30_2 and have found it to have the best battery performance. But I'm intrigued by the 5.11 recommendation. Last time I tried it was on OpenDesire and I found the battery usage to be higher.

Any ideas? I searched the thread but haven't managed to find any clues as to why! :)

In advance, thanks.

Regards,
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
I thought he always recommends the latest radio.
[Desire Android Development] RavinShubh:
Im curios too, ive always wanted to find out. Being that i just got into my first android smart phone purchase, ive no way to find out what RILS are being implemented. I did hear Kali mention that he does his testing on 5.09.05.30_2... i assume that he uses the RILS associated with that particular radio. If this in fact in case shouldnt 5.09.05.30_2 be the recommended radio?
[Desire Android Development] shokwaav:
wtf? aosp roms won't have htc sense

and had loads of bsods and reboots with 4.9e switched back to 4.9c which was much more stable
[Desire Android Development] buzmay:
There are already some ROMS out there with new htc sense and apparently htc desire hd and htc desire z wont be the only ones having it.
[Desire Android Development] mitiok2002:
Contact Manager fix

I was told that DeFrost ROM has modded CM wit possibility to change display view fro all contacts from Firstname Lastname to Lastname, Firstname. Official ROM has only posibility to do it contact by contact, It's crazy to do it with my 600 conacts :eek:

Is it possible to get this fix from DeFrost ROM to run on official ROM to have all my contacts displayed by Lastname, FirstName?
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
The roms are totally different. Plus without being rooted, even if it was possible, you wouldn't be able to.
[Desire Android Development] Dramiro:
With the last HAVS kernel:

Ok, today all night charging and ok but went I turn on data and off Wifi ten minuts later blakscreen and not wake up. Rest of day all ok. The battery uses 20%.
[Desire Android Development] gazza.ladra:
exactly the same here, lots of random crashes after 4.9e: I am going back to 4.9d
[Desire Android Development] mitiok2002:
I see, BUT :) official Rom has function to change display view for one contact. It means - something is changed in somethere when I do it. All I want - have "batch" function to change display view for all my contacs - one by one. I have no idea how to do it, but pretty much sure that it's should be quite easy stuff.

if anyone could help :).
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
Some Sense roms like modaco for example, have the option to use the standard Android contacts application (as used by AOSP roms), so maybe that would help you?
[Desire Android Development] Marsbar:
Death using 4.9e, sorry :( At work this time too so no Wifi.

Interestingly, this kmsg (4.9e) has a reference to 256000, which I thought you'd now stopped:

[ 2177.990112] AVS setting V to 950 mV @256 MHz

and none of my other last_kmsg files has @256 in it. Are you sure your test hasn't done something in reverse? :) :)

Anyway, here's the last two last_kmsg files, just in case it helps.

last_kmsg_20101007_1322 is 4.9e

last_kmsg_20101006_2252 is 4.9d
[Desire Android Development] shokwaav:
omg is this a sense rom? I never knew! this aosp rom actually had htc sense although it is based on cyanogen6 which doesn't even have htc sense

/sarcasm
[Desire Android Development] shokwaav:
yes 4.9d works really well compared to version e :(
[Desire Android Development] EViollet:
No problem with 4.9e since this morning here...

I'm even trying the latest radio and power consumption seems OK as well.
[Desire Android Development] shokwaav:
are you using wifi?
[Desire Android Development] EViollet:
Yes.

Using only WiFi in fact.

I'm also using JuiceDefender and it's switching ON and OFF my WiFi every 15 minutes as configured. No issue here. I also tried surfing a bit, updating a couple of apps and saw no issues.
[Desire Android Development] buzmay:
Well if you know actually as much as your sarcasm denotes why you do no try to quit doubts rather than criticized them?

And about you /sarcasm (yeah sure is hard to realize you are rather praising)
[Desire Android Development] buzmay:
4.9 e works great for me with or without wifi, or any other stuff. I have had it for 3 days soon and no problem at all until now
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
Hi Buzmay,

Not sure how much you know about this so do forgive me if this is patronising.

AOSP roms like Cyanogen and defrost (Android open source project) are vanilla roms, based (initially and loosely) around generic kernels.

In order to have HTC sense, you need to run a HTC kernel. HTC have eventually released their source code for this, but without an AOSP rom using that HTC kernel, it is not possible to run sense. I'm not even sure if that kernel (or part there of) can be ported over, but to be fair, the beauty of AOSP roms is that they do not have anything from HTC on them.

There are actually some custom sense roms which have been ported from the HD to the desire that you can search and try out, if you're interested in that sort of thing.
[Desire Android Development] shokwaav:
yea that... im not sure buzzmay understood me.
[Desire Android Development] buzmay:
Thanks a lot for clearing my doubt the thing is that I found on a spanish forum another ROM using htc sense, so therefore i thought all the roms could use it.

I appreciate your help and now I have learned something new rather than get upset because someone else that knows cant answer properly and uses sarcasm.

Highly appreciate it :)
[Desire Android Development] NCFreezz:
Speed question

Can someone explain this:

Freshly flashed DeFrost 4.9, installed NBench (market)

NBench score:

2.691

4.033

0.925

Freshly flashed Defrost 4.9, flash 4.9e 998HAVS, installed NBench

NBench score:

2.719

4.082

0.927

all scores are faster.

Freshly flashed Defrost 4.9, flash 4.9e 1133HAVS, installed NBench

NBench score:

2.690

4.020

0.926

all scores are slower (some slower as stock 998SVS)

How come that benchmark scores are slower with a "faster" kernel ??
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
What application did you use to overclock the CPU to the top speed of the kernels?
[Desire Android Development] richardtrip:
Ok, stupid mistake from my side. Forgot to disable 256Mhz in the havs table. Will correct later so expect an updated kernel in a couple of hours.
[Desire Android Development] NCFreezz:
I used SetCPU, it was installed and enabled on all 3 test.

I did not change any other settings (like VMHeap size etc)
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
As long as you did an autodetect settings and slid it up to 1113mhz, you shouldn't have had to do anything else.

Sometimes on Quadrant, the first few scores are low as the governer is only giving the application what it needs (i.e not the whole Mhz it is capable of) but a few after, better scores are received.

Have you done Nbench again since?
[Desire Android Development] Marsbar:
Heh. I've been there, got the t-shirt etc.

It does sort-of imply that the 256 wasn't the problem though, no? Since we have a 256 a good half-hour before the crash.

[ 2177.990112] AVS setting V to 950 mV @256 MHz

[ 2178.008575] done.

[ 2178.008941] suspend: exit suspend, ret = 0 (2010-10-07 12:29:24.525060975 UTC)

[ 2450.719879] suspend: exit suspend, ret = 0 (2010-10-07 12:58:50.532591463 UTC)

[ 2450.720642] active wake lock msm_serial_hs_rx, time left 46

[ 2450.721038] suspend: abort suspend

That's interesting too: I always assumed the number on the left was seconds since boot or something (although it hadn't made much sense because it meant I was getting reboots I hadn't noticed), but this suggests a weird ratio of about 6:1? Is it wake seconds?

Another interesting (but possibly unhelpful) thing: the battery at the end of the 6d crash is 43% or so, but by the time I realised it had crashed (about 5 hours later) it had plummeted to 12%.
[Desire Android Development] EViollet:
On my 1133HAVS, I get

2.986

4.5

1.022

Seems consistent.

Regards,
[Desire Android Development] mdbraber:
Hi all,

I'm following the discussion about HAVS/SVS with some interest. Took me a little googling to find out HAVS is Hybrid Adaptive Voltage Scaling and SVS is Static Voltage Scaling :-) So I guess this is the next step in 'undervolting' - right? :-)

I'm mostly looking for a better battery performance - so would I than go for the 1113Mhz version or the 998Mhz, can't quite make it out (as the whole thing should be adaptive right?)

Thanks for helping out and thanks for all your great work on Defrost!

(Btw, I'm currently running Defrost 4.9 and my current Nbench scores are 2.47 / 3.3739 / 0.845)
[Desire Android Development] mdbraber:
I just saw Richard posted the 4.9f version so I decided to take a plunge and try it (the 1113Mhz version). My current Nbench scores are: 2.559/3.723/0.893 - are these the increases to be expected (from my previous stock 4.9SVS 2.47/3.3739/0.845)?

Another question is does the whole SetCPU story from post #2 in this thread still apply with the current kernels if you want to prolong your battery life?
[Desire Android Development] richardtrip:
Kernel update 4.9f

Kernel updates:

4.9f

SVS & HAVS versions.

Disabled 256Mhz for havs also(svs was already disabled but i didn't release that yesterday)
[Desire Android Development] Pzykonaut:
How do you get those b, c, d, e kernels?
[Desire Android Development] Dragooon123:
Use Defrost setup, comes with the ROM.
[Desire Android Development] itsfozzy:
It would help if Defrost Set Up labled them as a,b,c etc
[Desire Android Development] shokwaav:
thanks!!!! hope this works great
[Desire Android Development] mitiok2002:
Thank you! I'll take a look modaco thread.
[Desire Android Development] mdbraber:
You could also try LeeDroid which gives you the option to choose between the standard Android Contacts app and the Sense one.
[Desire Android Development] mitiok2002:
My stock HTC Desire with official 2.2 Froyo have:

2.591

3.954

0.899

Just wondering - is the above results give to device a lot of additional perfomance or save a lot of battery life or something else?
[Desire Android Development] richardtrip:
I just did :p
[Desire Android Development] itsfozzy:
You're heading in the right direction for a donation my friend!
[Desire Android Development] Boezelman:
My phone drops HSDPA & Wifi in standby mode(screen off)... Any fix for this?
[Desire Android Development] buchman:
Just had a bsod on the new havs, flashed back to svs for now, I will do some proper testing later. Need my phone active
[Desire Android Development] Pzykonaut:
Thanks! :)
[Desire Android Development] ewor:
Thanks for the heads up.

My initial opinion of 4.9 was unsatisfactory due poor battery performance and a few random fc and reboots (this was a clean wipe,flash and some selected ~10 apps+data titanium restores). I had previously found 4.8 similarly unsatisfactory with the same setup. However after doing another full wipe and flash with 4.9, and not using titanium backup, I am now getting great battery life on 4.9.

Its a great rom.
[Desire Android Development] Dramiro:
Richard: What is Kernel_Froyo_cfq_V2.zip ?
[Desire Android Development] richardtrip:
Thats a kernel for Sense roms (don't try it on defrost).
[Desire Android Development] buchman:
Flashing 5 now
[Desire Android Development] richardtrip:
New ROM Update

Version 5.0:

* Rebased kernel (latest Kali- version with fixes)

* Latest CyanogenMod fixes (minor stuff)

Backuplink is ready for download. primary link ready in 20 minutes.
[Desire Android Development] Latty:
Awesome, thanks =D

Flashing...
[Desire Android Development] jazha:
Sweet, thanks!

Flashing with havs 1113Mhz, will report back if I experience any trouble :)
[Desire Android Development] m0nji:
****...bsod with 4.9c havs. i had no problem before 4.4 with havs. after that i allways got bsod with havs kernels. the 4.9c havs 998mhz was the first kernel which survive 24h...so i was very sure this kernel is it. but now bsod grml... :(

try now 5.0 with havs.
[Desire Android Development] Latty:
Upgraded to 5.0/HAVS, and had lots of hot reboots. Gonna try to wipe and try again.
[Desire Android Development] m0nji:
endless reboots too after installing 5.0 with havs 998mhz and cg+colored icons.

reboots startet after installing the cg+colored icons. try again with svs
[Desire Android Development] Latty:
I can confirm. Don't install the icons; new frameworked icons will be required =) dw515, where are you? :p
[Desire Android Development] Theteenystar:
Same here, endless hot reboots :(

Make a restore and wait for a better Version...

But Richard you make a very great job....
[Desire Android Development] buzmay:
Do I need after installing 5.0 version via defrost setup to flash the recommended radio, kernel and wifi n kernel??
[Desire Android Development] asmaridis:
It's the cg+colored icons. The new kernels seem to be super fast in any case :) will update you on stability issues. Running SVS1113.
[Desire Android Development] rs1800:
Same with cg+standard icons

Looks good so far but Ive also changed radio to 30_2
[Desire Android Development] Enhdojo:
Got with 4.9 (havs 1113 set @998 on demand (i get bsod when set @1113)):

1st bench 2nd bench (on a row)

2.711 2.704

4.038 4.025

0.913 0.91

the next step: no fear!

gonna flash 5.0 with a custom framework from the Ultimate Online Theme Kitchen

to see if i get a reboot loop. (or not)
[Desire Android Development] jcrompton:
5.0 lasted about 10 minutes before BSOD using 998 HAVS

998 SVS seems pretty stable so far
[Desire Android Development] Enhdojo:
end result (no wipe):

no reboot! (a very long boot though)

nbench (setcpu no set yet - just a clear data):

2.666

3.981

0.904

EDIT: after installing the havs 1113 (setcpu @ 998 - on demand):

2.669

3.982

0.906... Oops.

EDIT 2: after installing the 5.0a havs 1113 (setcpu @ 998 - on demand):

2.676

4.009

0.909
[Desire Android Development] weretiger:
things are fine with 5.0 + HAVS1113. but do not install the custom bar rom, else will not boot.
[Desire Android Development] kelix:
Rather than a status/progress bar in the update/download section of Defrost setup i get what appears to be a mal processed circle loader that spins..

any ideas why?
[Desire Android Development] buzmay:
With both HAVS BSOD changing to SVS 998
[Desire Android Development] nitrox1:
5.0 seems good so far, had a little screen giggle, but cleared up, and launcher pro seems smoother.

Havs 1113 5.0.

I found havs 1113 4.9 d fine, but mini rebooted constantly on 4.9f, never tried 4.9e

Sent from the 25th century.
[Desire Android Development] richardtrip:
Kernel update

New HAVS kernels posted (5.0a) Flash with defrost setup

readded 256000

fiq glue: Align fiq stacks

fiq debugger: Allow selection of target cpu

epoll: make epoll_wait use the hrtimer range feature

select: rename estimate_accuracy to select_estimate_accuracy

ARM: fiq debugger: Add tty to fiq debugger

ARM: Add generic fiq serial debugger

ARM: Add fiq_glue

Add delay to allow frequency shift to stabilize before AVS tries to set voltages.
[Desire Android Development] Latty:
testing now :D
[Desire Android Development] claspath:
Is Korean blocked to access to http://xda.richardtrip.org?

Dear richardtrip,

Many defrost users in Korean desire community say they are not able to download Defrost APP pack (http://xda.richardtrip.org/DeFroST_5.0_Apps.zip). When we try to download it, the web browser just shows http://www.proxynetwork.ws/blocked.htm page. At first, I thought it was overload problem on the link, but I could download the file through proxy server located in USA.

Is there any limitation? And my defrost setup can't receive download list. It just shows "downloading list.." 2 ~ 3 seconds, and displays "Download Failed!". Is this also relevant to the blocking problem?
[Desire Android Development] jjplayground:
CG and icons

Can the cg + icons be made available in the defrost setup please?

Thanx!
[Desire Android Development] ChikkenSoop:
Just gotta post to let richardtrip know, was among the many having constant reboots and bsod's but it was finally fixed with the 4.9d+ kernels. Can finally overclock AND use HAVS again! Thankyou for all your hard work on DeFrost rt, got 5.0 with the 5.0a kernels installed and running happily. Oh and for those that are asking for circle battery mods, I can't recommend http://circle.glx.nl highly enough... really slick new website with loads of options including choices of smilies, notification bar icons and even boot animations!
[Desire Android Development] richardtrip:
Fixed it. Sorry for the block.
[Desire Android Development] richardtrip:
Mod posted

New boot animation (flash with defrost setup):

Thanks to frysee
[Desire Android Development] m0nji:
thanks for the link...

but unfortunately the good old colored icons are not available there :(
[Desire Android Development] davdavo:
That is one bad ugly boot animation.

Bring back the old one :D
[Desire Android Development] Enhdojo:
smilies never worked for me... maybe i missed something O_o

i never tried the bootanimation thing as mine is fine.

btw the bios anim states android os 2.1 and cyan 5.0... details, details.

How about having the new Ubuntu font as a standard? Anybody interested?

(http://en.fonts2u.com/download/ubuntu.familie)
[Desire Android Development] itsfozzy:
Richard, enjoy a beer on me.

Cheers for work you put in.
[Desire Android Development] jjplayground:
I like it.. only one thing. At the end there is a black screen so I think aaaaaaah my phone is dead.,.. but it's not
[Desire Android Development] Dramiro:
Richard : I think in Defrost we are using LauncherPro, I buy this Launcher, how I can update your version to my buyed version? And because your launcher 2 have 4mb?

Thanks
[Desire Android Development] richardtrip:
You have to put your key in (menu, Preferences, ???? (already registered)).
[Desire Android Development] shokwaav:
no problems so far :)
[Desire Android Development] laurence0609:
Hi Richard! Am trying to access Defrost Setup but it keeps on saying "download failed". I used to be able to download it using your 4.9 but was not able with version 5.0. Any idea why? Going to try and flash it again and see if that would work. Thanks for your beautiful ROM!
[Desire Android Development] Dramiro:
In my launcher I put the code but i don't where I ha e to put the code in the original launcher on Defrost. O edit your zip and change the apks but I don't. Know if this method is correct and why your launcher have 4mb and the original only two
[Desire Android Development] xenogearz87:
is this for desire only..? how about milestone..?
[Desire Android Development] rPAD:
Working great. Thx
[Desire Android Development] buzmay:
No problems until now with the new HAVS thanks for the update
[Desire Android Development] LivingDeadDivision:
Again trying the new havs kernel 5a, lets see!