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[G1 Android Development] my_former_self:
Dead on, man. And no matter what anyone says, they succeeded. All they wanted to do was to raise the bar for Android phone hardware and show it's potential. And that they did. The Nexus One still holds up next to some of the newest out there currently. Kudos, Google.

Yup. Sometimes, we mess around so much with our phones that a fresh wipe and install is the best. And if I haven't said it enough in here, Titanium Backup is well worth the donation. It is quite simply the most amazing app on the market for rooted phones. That way, you can get back not only all your apps, but the data that goes along with 'em, too. That's something that Google backup doesn't do; the data. Again, one freaking cool app and worth the donation. You will never regret it, I guarantee it. NOTE: If you go the Titanium Backup route, make sure to NOT enable the Google backup feature when you reflash. Otherwise, you'll have some issues because of the apps redownloading and such.

Dude, don't do it. You'll not only get ripped off, but probably scammed. If it's new, you'll pay through the nose to someone who bought a truck load of them and if it's used, you'll get scammed (because, think about it, who would actually part with the Nexus One unless something was wrong with it?).

Although I was tempted by the Samsung Vibrant (Galaxy S) now - which looks gorgeous - it lacks a flash, has battery issues and, most importantly (but such a small simple thing), it lacks a notification LED. So, I'm waiting it out until the end of the year or first quarter next year. I hear the HTC Desire (or Bravo) is coming to the states around then. It's already in the UK and it looks to be (basically) the Nexus Two (although it won't be sold by Google, etc). I'm holding out for that which looks to be far more worth it (i.e. It's a Nexus One in style and build plus more RAM, a better screen, physical buttons and an optical trackball).

So, for now, I'm sticking with my MT3G and my wife's G1. With my setup, they're running awesome. Cy and the team will have CM 6 Stable out soon, too, so there will be even newer life in them for awhile.
[G1 Android Development] firefly6240:
Although I do love the show and the movie :)

my alias was just something I've had since I was about 16, and it just stuck with me :)
[G1 Android Development] firefly6240:
My dad got the vibrant.

it seems like a great phone :)

it even does tv out which is pretty fun.

battery life seems about the same as my mytouch (running CM6 - RC2), it seems to last all day but definitely needs to be plugged in at night.

watching movies and such drains battery pretty fast though (not unlike most phones)

it does come with android 2.1 so no flash, but I'm sure 2.2 wont be far in the future.

its the best tmobile phone at the moment, otherwise your stuck shelling out for an unlocked EVO or Incredible.

but maybe we'll finally start seeing some decent tmobile phones now :)

I do hope the desire comes to tmobile :)
[G1 Android Development] FatBoyExtraordinaire:
I've been looking into TB but with my phone acting all goofy now, do I really want to restore that after a wipe and re-do? It would definitely save me a whole helluva lot of time (145 apps and counting) but if it's going to restore my broken rom as it is now, should I not do it?

As for the Nexus, I know not to do it, but it's so tempting. I'm actually starting to lean towards the Slide because of the keyboard. I'm a sucker for a physical keyboard. Everything you said about the Vibrant is the exact reason I don't even want to consider it as an option to buy. I agree whole heartedly, I mean no notification light? How do you forget something like that? My dad's tracfone has that. It is a beautiful phone no doubt, but I could just see myself being like "Damn, I should have waited. Now look at THIS phone" Maybe, I'll wait right along with you for the new crop to show up.

1. They have unlocked Evo's and Incredibles and 2. Will they work on T-mobile? I thought we used different systems (ie. sim cards vs no sim cards)
[G1 Android Development] firefly6240:
@FatBoyExtraordinaire

Your right, it was four in the morning when I posted that. I must have been half asleep and phone shopping lol
[G1 Android Development] my_former_self:
TB just restores your apps and their settings/data, not the

whole ROM

. You can even pick and choose which to restore if you want. Personally, I

never restore and of the gapps

, since they change with an update; I just restore the 3rd party ones and such. If you're still worried, you can use Astro File Manager to make app backups, but it will only backup the apps and not the data. But TB should never cause an issue.

You know, it may not be the Nexus One in power and such, but the Slide really isn't that bad of a phone for what it is. It's kind of what the G1 users expected (but didn't get) when the original MT3G came out; a slimmer phone, more storage and memory, and a physical keyboard. Most of the newer phones are going to have virtual keyboards, so I wouldn't fault you for nabbing a Slide. I've played with one in store; it's incredible how it feels almost exactly like my MT3G in my hand, but still has a keyboard in it. Comes down to your preference. Here's a nice video overview of the phone.

P.S. - It IS possible to root the Slide, by the way, but Cy doesn't have a ROM out for it quite yet. It's planned, though.

P.P.S. - After a little reading, although root is possible, you can't load Clockwork Recovery permanently (yet). And there are currently only 2 custom ROMS for the Slide. So, I'd hold off for a little while until we can get a permanent install of Clockwork Recovery and a Cy version ROM. They just did it (persistent Clockwork Recovery) for the EVO, so I'm sure the Slide isn't far off. If they do it soon...I may very well be tempted to nab a Slide instead of waiting (I'm kind of jealous of my wife's G1 physical keyboard). I'm out of contract and have got some extra "fun money" to burn :rolleyes:
[G1 Android Development] FatBoyExtraordinaire:
Ugh, I feel I must fully wipe very very soon. All my G Apps are failing one by one for some unknown reason. First it was my gmail, then my gtalk, and now I have no contacts because contact syncing immediately FC's. Wondering if I should go the "Danger" route while I'm at it.

Damn, got my hopes up! lol I was going to be all over that unlocked Evo!! :D

As you can see from my initial statement, TB will definitely come in handy right now. So if I wipe and reflash, and then reinstall TB, all I have to do is restore and it puts all my apps and data back in their correct areas (ext3 and such)? Is that correct?

I think you may have sold me on the Slide. Thanks for the link by the way, love being able to see the reviews in action. I've had my g1 for 2 years now and that new phone itch is getting stronger and stronger each day. I wouldn't mind rocking out with stock until true root and cyan comes the slide's way. My friend has the slide and i was really impressed with it after playing around with it. I'm like you, I don't know if I can wait that long for the next big phone. lol Give me a new toy to play with now! :D
[G1 Android Development] ad505:
Is there a setting in the cm roms to enable music controls on the lockscreen? I've seen screenshots but cannot find it.
[G1 Android Development] Azza_1:
Such a great ROM but it's eating up my battery life like there is no tomorrow...well to be honest it can't last a day. :(
[G1 Android Development] ad505:
I was having the same issue until I recalibrated my battery. User my_former_self really helped a lot. It's in this thread somewhere around the 200 pg area. Look for it, there's a ton of great insight on prolonging your battery life.
[G1 Android Development] G1sanju:
This is for CM6 not for CM5
[G1 Android Development] djunio:
battery has been fine for me, but i stay tether most of the day
[G1 Android Development] G1ForFun:
Heres my 2 cents on the issue as a CM5 based rom user myself.

My battery drains pretty fast (about 8 hours with moderate use) but that is expected when you run on a 3g signal, a cpu max of 528 with a weather widget updating every 3 hours,

a swap partition constantly reading/writing, have background data on, have gmail, email, contacts and calendar syncing 24/7.

To try to save power

I keep my brightness all the way down and occasionally turn it up to about 20% if I need too.

Set my min value to 160,000.

Always hit the end key when I am done using my phone so the screen shuts off right away.

Keep my phone on ring with no vibrate.

Use 3 home screens (the minimum) with 2 widgets (weather and power)

That's about it.

Think about it....this phone was never meant too do all this and look this good while doing it.

We push the limits of our phone's hardware and it causes the battery to drain rather fast.
[G1 Android Development] Arkain2K:
Just like every discussion there is about the G1, there's a separate thread in this forum each specific purpose, if you take your time to look for it (and subscribe to it).

This particular topic here is all about how to extend the life of your battery while using 2.1 ROMs, I suggest you boys and girls put it to good use:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=691214
[G1 Android Development] ad505:
That makes sense. I'm waiting for cm6 stable before I flash cuz I love 5.0.8 so much.

Thanks 4 the reply!
[G1 Android Development] my_former_self:
Here's the link to my post on recalibrating your battery and such. Glad it helped you out, ad, and thanks for the cred. Sharin' the intellectual wealth, baby! :D

And as for this...

Ouch, looks like we hit a sore spot, folks.

Seriously, don't be rude, man. People need help and that's what we're here for. And we're in a 5.0.8 DS forum talking about battery life pertaining to devices running on 5.0.8 DS, if you haven't noticed. So, again, don't be rude. Snide comments only make newbs (like we all once were) shy away from asking anything at all which in turn robs them of the fun of hacking around in Android. And that is NOT cool.
[G1 Android Development] xyrcncp:
There's always a few...I got a similar reply earlier in this thread when I asked about the newer ADW Launcher, I was given a snide reply way after my question had been answered by someone else. Someone is always out there waiting for a chance to make their comments and feel better about how sarcastic/snide they are.
[G1 Android Development] my_former_self:
Hatin' on Newbs = NOT cool

Kinda sad, isn't it? I always try to keep my responses to those kinds of comments to a mild minimum; doing otherwise would just lose its effect. But I also say a note on it because I just don't want the newbies thinking XDA is an unfriendly environment where they should fear to tread. I really could care less what Arkain2K and all the little snide remarking elitists like him think; they're a dime a dozen (sorry dimes, you're actually worth more). I'm out to defend the newbies.

By the way, I say "newbies" with love to all of you who are. It wasn't that long ago that many of us were in the same boat. We're a community and we all learn through sharing. Don't ever feel afraid to ask a question. Please do a search first, of course, and be polite, but if you can't find your answer, just toss it out there. Myself, Firefly6240, and xyrcncp (if I can speak for you, bro) are definitely here to help. So, when you see me making a remark like I did, know it's for YOU GUYS. Mad love, newbs.
[G1 Android Development] Oridin:
Well with the fear of being eaten alive here goes nothing...

I have a HTC magic 32B (vodafone) and im trying to install the 5.8 rom from RA1.7. (directly from the phone).

I go in and do a factory reset, wipe the cache and then try to flash zip from sdcard.

The phone finds the update package, opens it and then fails on verifcaiton ... saying

corrupt file

"system/app/CertInstaller.apk

Ive downloaded the rom twice and checked the MD5 but it still fails. Is there something im missing?

Thanks for your help!
[G1 Android Development] my_former_self:
First, make sure you have a 32B board. Check in Fastboot by rebooting and holding the BACK button until you get a white screen with text. It should say something like SAPPHIRE PVT 32B ENG S-OFF H at the very top. Make sure you do, in fact, have a 32B and not a 32A. If you've got a 32A, just download the 32A kernel update for CM 5.

Other than that, I would try to redownload the ROM from a different source. Here are a few:

Kanged.net

Mediafire.com

Cyanogen-updater.googlecode.com

and finally

Android.chemlab.org

MD5Sum: 48f0c4304ed66c1528bf0bf098b04cb4

Other than that, I did a significant amount of Googling, searched in Cy's Forums and in XDA and I can't find another person with that particular problem (i.e. "system/app/CertInstaller.apk"). That doesn't mean it's not fixable; it just means either I'm not the one with the answer currently or it's late and I need sleep :D

Give that all a wack and hit the forum back. We'll go from there. Don't stress it, bro; there's enough of us in here that I'm sure we'll get it figured out. Just give us some time.

P.S. - Also, this might sound trivial, but reformat your SD Card and recopy the update to it. Backup your FAT32 partition and everything first, of course. It's a long shot, but maybe the file system on your SD Card is corrupt in sectors. Again, long shot, but worth a try.
[G1 Android Development] Oridin:
Thanks for your help MFS! Ive definitely got the 32B (checked a few times now lol)

I downloaded 5.07 and had a crack at installing it. The good news it worked straight away. The bad news, its stuck at the fringing vodafone splash screen grrr.

Anyway, i will go home and download 5.08 from one of your mirrors and chuck it on the SD card. Hopefully this solves both issues :)

Will keep ya posted :)
[G1 Android Development] my_former_self:
Well, that's at least partial good news! I think you might have just gotten a bad update file. Let me know when you've tried again.

Worse comes to worse, I can get you a Nandroid backup of a fresh install from my MT3G (no credentials or sign in, just absolutely fresh) for you to restore to yours. Now, if we do that, you'll have to rename the backup to your phone's S/N (serial number), which is found under the battery in your phone, for it to work correctly (theoretically). But we'll cross that bridge only if we have to.

OK, off to bed for real now!
[G1 Android Development] FatBoyExtraordinaire:
my_former_self, just want to confirm somthing with you about Titanium Backup before I wipe and reflash 5.0.8. My phone has turned into a brittle old man! Everytime I reboot my phone, something else fails. Now I have no email app! So as it pertains to TB and restoring apps, what about the folders created by those apps on our Sd cards. Should I delete them and allow them to be recreated after the restore, or do I leave those folders as they are and just wipe the data, cache, and ext 3 partition? Which now leads to a second question, I do wipe the apps2sd (ext3) correct? Wipe it clean and TB will put everything back into it right? Sorry for all the questions, but my phones is acting so goofy and I'm dreading wiping if I have to manually install all my apps again.
[G1 Android Development] Oridin:
Just started from scratch and everything worked perfectly. Not sure what was going on last night?? Perhaps just a dodgy transfer onto the SD card?? Thanks again MFS :D
[G1 Android Development] JazzMac251:
The Gapps link doesn't seem to be working - nor the mirror. Anyone have any alternate DL locations?
[G1 Android Development] Oridin:
Thanks!!!!!

Grab the file name and stick it in Google ... it should pop up in a few places :)

just a note on what happened to my upgrade!

After installing the 5.08 rom (from a new root) my phone wasn't detecting the correct APNs. I checked it was in the list (using astro) and found everything to be there. But they still wouldnt display in the menu?? This problem was stopping my gmail, calendar and market. I was still able to make and receive phone calls and message people tho.

Another issue i had was the phone and browser buttons wernt working on the desktop (next to the menu button). I had know idea what was causing this?

Anyway, I did a complete new install after doing a wipe/cleaning cache etc and now everything is working 100% ... The mod feels like it should be shipped with the phone!!

Thanks to everyone involved with the Cyanogen mod!! You guys are dead set champions!
[G1 Android Development] my_former_self:
If you don't have anything important in the folders, sure, give 'em the boot.

Yup. Wipe that puppy. Titanium Backup backs up the apps+data. As long as you have an EXT partition when you do a restore, CM 5 puts them in there automatically. TB just restores the apps to wherever the system puts them. So, in your case, that'd be in the EXT partition. Make sense? If you are repartitioning, make sure to backup the contents of your FAT32 partition BEFORE you repartition. Once you've partitioned, copy it back.

NOTE: When you restore with TB, just restore the "missing apps+data" and not system stuff, etc. (ex. Gmail, Gtalk...). You can if you want or maybe if you have a bunch of settings you don't want to redo, but I say stick with the fresh gapps install and just restore your 3rd party apps. Whatever you do, once you are done, pop open terminal emulator and run a fix_permissions.

Lastly...NANDROID BACKUP FIRST! Actually, for you, it should be a Nandroid+Ext backup (if you are using Amon Ra, which I highly recommend). If it gives you an error, just run a Bart backup. Bart backs up the EXT, even though it doesn't say that in the title; I use Bart for my wife's G1 and Nandroid (plain) for my MT3G. This way, even if TB screws up (which it won't), force closes come out of everywhere, aliens invade and that stupid clock on your Grandmother's old VCR starts flashing 12:00 and you just can't fix it...you can always just restore the Nandroid/Bart backup. :D

P.S. - To avoid battery stat confusion, charge her all the way up first. And I don't mean until green, I mean until 100%; a green LED can actually still be 94%. Then, do all this while plugged in. Once you're back in, restored, got everything the way you want it, etc, then unplug it. May not actually do anything, but hey, it's one of those "just in case it does" things, you know?
[G1 Android Development] my_former_self:
RIP my battery...maybe

So....I think my battery is finally starting to bite the dust. Just in case, I did my own little tutorial we all quote here the other day. But, although better...she's still draining a little fast for my taste. She makes it through a day, but barely. Not terribly surprising since I "drive" my phone like I stole it.

[Sigh] So, if anyone knows a good (and not extraordinarily expensive, but not "cheap", either) brand of battery for a 1st gen MT3G, I'm all ears.

Or maybe I should just snag the Slide and hope for Cy to pump out a version for it...at the risk of angering the ball and cha--ahem--my wife :D Hmm....so tempting.
[G1 Android Development] ArcticWolf91:
Can someone help me? I just installed this and everything seems to work, except my home button! I don't know why! :(

Oh, and I don't have the market.
[G1 Android Development] FatBoyExtraordinaire:
Looks like I will be giving the majority of the folders the boot then. Thanks again for the tips and advice. Everything sounds pretty simple and straight forward, back up everything (including gapps {although they are the apps that are failing so hmm...}) but ONLY RESTORE my 3rd party apps. Should definitely save me the headache of reinstalling one by one.

Now I know I'm going to get killed for this but can I ask for a confirmation on how to run fix permissions through TE. I've always just run it through Amon_RA's recovery option, so I just want to double check.

I will be following every step and tip you posted (don't want any aliens 'round these parts!) and hopefully be back to my fully functioning rom once again. Much appreciations.

Does the first gen MT3G use the same battery as the G1? If so, I can recommend a great extended life battery I use and it works like a charm. Let me know and I'll post the link.
[G1 Android Development] charlie2806:
How and where to resize compcache please?
[G1 Android Development] G1ForFun:
Fix_permissions is better ran from the recovery image. The screen stays on and the task is performed much quicker than when done inside the rom with TE.

But too answer your question, you can run fix_permissions through TE by using the same command. Just be sure to set your display timeout to 10 minutes before doing it....cause once the screen shuts off it doesn't really progress.

This is why I do it through Amon Ra's Recovery using the console that is built in.
[G1 Android Development] ArcticWolf91:
Ok does anyone know where I can get this "Google Addon" in order to have the market? Anyone? Please?
[G1 Android Development] Arkain2K:
Here's a novelty idea that some other people came across: try reading the fist post in this topic.
[G1 Android Development] my_former_self:
Actually, Arkain, the term you are looking for is "novel ideal"...not "novelty." [Sigh] Maybe you should try reading a grammar book prior to totally exposing yourself as the feeble-minded self centered cynic that you are (although, we certainly could have ascertained that from your previously colorful posts...). Or at least use grammar check. To be completely honest, I'm just utterly impressed that you can even navigate a computer.

But if you want to pick on someone, pick on me. Come on. Go for it. Leave the newbs out of it. Or is it just because you don't have set larger than two shriveled raisins that makes you only target newbs? Weak sauce, man. You're pathetic.

ArticWolf, apologies for our resident idiot's comment. You are welcome here and so are your questions.
[G1 Android Development] my_former_self:
C'mon, man, give me some cred; I'm not going to kill you for a question! Maybe just mame you or a slight flesh wound... :D

Yeah, you can run it from Amon Ra, but I've found running it through Terminal goes better for some reason. Maybe it's just my perception, though. It'll take a little longer, but it'll finish even with the screen off.

Unfortunately, no. The G1 battery is bigger. I'm going to Google around a bit when I get a chance. It's doing OK for right now, but I need to think to the future sooner than later. Thanks for the thought, though.
[G1 Android Development] FatBoyExtraordinaire:
So either method will suffice, cool. Thanks for the input. Amon_RA's recovery truly is an all-in-one. Can't believe I stuck with the CM1.4 recovery so long (no disrespect to that recovery) I just upgraded to 1.52 (then .62 and so on) only a few short months ago. I know, I'm an idiot.

Trust and believe all credit is given. I didn't mean you would kill me, I'm talking about some of the others who hate when a basic question is asked (PS, I see how you handle those people. Damn! lol)

Knowing me, I'll probably end up running it in both before the night is over, just to make sure it took! lol Probably not a good idea though.

Didn't even know they were of different sizes. You know what that means, time to buy a MyTouch 3g Slide. :D Seriously though, that phone is intriguing me more and more each day. I almost bought a new one off ebay today for 300 but i decide to wait and do just a little more research on it.
[G1 Android Development] flyers00:
missing market app

I just flashed the rom and GAPPS from the first post and when I reboot the phone the Market is missing. Before flashing I formatted my SD card and set all partitions from Amon recovery. I also did a fastboot erase system -w to clear anything out. Then I wiped all that I could from AMON. Any suggestions for restoring the missing Market