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[EVO 4G Android Development] timothydonohue:
if toast and maejrep's method works like they say it does, and i believe them, once you have established root access, it is because they have managed to establish it in the system, and NAND. it is not determined by the ROM. you should be able to flash whatever ROM you want, and maintain root access, or not flash any ROM whatsoever, and still maintain root access.

i'm hoping we can get something like amon_ra's recovery, because then we can do nandroid backups as well, if something gets goofed and you would need to restore to an earlier, functional, time point.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jabbawalkee:
Nope. You root your phone and THEN decide if you want to flash a custom ROM. You don't have to flash a custom ROM if you don't want to. Root just allows you the ability to flash custom ROMs and access system files
[EVO 4G Android Development] chuckhriczko:
Yeah I would recommend reading the guide sections of the G1 and Hero forums. We have some pretty good guides that should give you the basic ideas of how to do this stuff and answer any questions you may have.
[EVO 4G Android Development] SolsticeZero:
Well, I've been following this thread for the past while, and I just registered today. I'm getting my EVO on Friday morning, and I am super excited. I just wanted to come in and thank all of you who are busting your butts to root this thing. Thank you all for your hard work! Here's a completely hetero e-hug for all of you! HUG
[EVO 4G Android Development] adeyo:
Hey Tatnai! Great to see you over here...there aren't too many familiar faces from the vogue forum. nice to see you! i am finally leaving my vogue for the evo! Seems like a dream team of developers here -can't wait for the evo root instructions and some nice custom roms!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] kmartburrito:
Here's a couple more for cooking roms and compiling kernels. Some of it is Hero specific, but good general info which would certainly apply to the Evo also.

http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1404 <-Cooking

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5447589 <-Compiling

BTW, this IS a dev forum, so be careful when doing things!
[EVO 4G Android Development] tatnai:
yeah my vogues got a few cracks in the housing, still purring on myn's warm donut though. figured time to throw down with the new.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shidell:
Quite a few Vogue faces here--including Zenulator. :) Looking forward to what's possible with the EVO.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Repnepto:
I am new to this whole mobile phone rooting scene, but I am excited to get my hands a dirty and dive into all this the second I get my EVO. For those of you who were unaware. If you pre-ordered or plan on getting your EVO from a radioshack, If the radioshack in your area got enough preorders they may be opening at 6 in the morning. Also I read that newbie guide posted (thanks by the way) if there are any other guides or what not that any of you suggest I would greatly appreciate them. this Thanks to all the people that are working on this.
[EVO 4G Android Development] muf454:
Thanks for all the hard work you guys put into this..

Quick question.. when do you guys think/guess the AOSP 2.2 will be available? Is it usually available soon after a new release? or does it take a while? I'm just curious because I have a feeling HTC is gonna take their time releasing froyo

Can't wait till friday... It's about time I get rid of my G1 :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] theillustratedlife:
This thread is 1 page of root info and 25 pages of tangential conversation. No wonder so many people are trying to revamp web communication…

Anyway, Google "has to" release the source into AOSP "very soon" after shipping the OTA update. (Their words). After the release, the manufacturers will work on porting it to their devices, then submit the source to the carriers. The carriers will finalize the ROM, run the Android test stack against it, and release it as an update.
[EVO 4G Android Development] clayginn:
So Saturday then right!

I do think we will see a OTA very quickly to fix some of the issue that have come out. I also think we will see 2.2 quick as they don't want their Flag Ship already behind. Then again quick to sprint maybe 4 months instead of 6
[EVO 4G Android Development] timothydonohue:
google's 'flagship' is the N1, which is why they already have an update for them (us, i guess, since i currently own one).

the evo is under sense, which means htc has to goof with it.

until toast et al get it patched!
[EVO 4G Android Development] TheBiles:
Re: {how to root your htc evo} <coming soon to a thread near you>

I'm fairly sure he was taking about HTC and Sprint's "flagship." ;)

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[EVO 4G Android Development] adeyo:
Didn't recognize you at first (new avatar?) ...didn't know zenulator was here, but just saw kerkedagain.

...just biding time until root instructions!!! THANKS FOR ALL YOUR WORK TOAST!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] joeykrim:
thanks those are very helpful!! the puzzle pieces are starting to come together!

wow, i had no idea. radio shack never told me this when i pre ordered from them. i will drop by my radioshack and see if they will be opening early friday morning!
[EVO 4G Android Development] p-slim:
Toast is it true 4g and camera do not work on your current port of froyo? I think I read this somewhere but I was wondering where he got that info from, I haven't seen you post that?
[EVO 4G Android Development] chuckhriczko:
Yes he did say that 4g, mms and the camera do not work in FroYo for the Evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] p-slim:
Damn I don't care about mms or camera but 4g is a must. Hopefully soon they can get the 4g ported. Seems like I'll be using stock just rooted
[EVO 4G Android Development] chuckhriczko:
Better than stock unrooted :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] Muledeer:
Root protection against OTA question

I'll be picking up 2 EVO's on Friday - my major concern is stopping any type of OTA update that would prevent/disable root possibilities.

I don't think Sprint will counter-act any root process by Friday or Saturday but if I'm successfully rooted due to the generosity of Toast and his team - can I block any OTA fixes after that?

Thanks and good job Toast,

Mule
[EVO 4G Android Development] chuckhriczko:
Yes. When cooking roms there is a file you remove to remove the ota update feature. I think it's /etc/otacerts.zip or something like that. But yeah when we have root most likely the rom that comes with it will have updates removed.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Sovvy:
Why? (New to Android)
[EVO 4G Android Development] Greenarcher707:
Do you really need to wait til the actual launch of the phone before we get a public root release? i know its only two days away but just askin...
[EVO 4G Android Development] chuckhriczko:
Toast said earlier in the thread, last night, that it would probably be released last night or today. Just have patience. I want it as bad as you do but even if we have to wait two more days it's only two more days.
[EVO 4G Android Development] chuckhriczko:
Look around at the various Android forums here (namely Dream). They have "Why should I root?" threads on those. Basically though, root gives you the ability to flash custom roms such as FroYo or AOSP (Android Open Source Project), allows you to flash custom kernels to give you new features or speed up the phone among other things.

Also, for the record, questions like these should go in the Q&A section of the forum :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] elodin_89:
Hey quick question, seeing as how the camera, 4g, and mms are not yet working on this 2.2 port, is it 2x to 5x faster than 2.1 like the authentic 2.2 release for the N1?
[EVO 4G Android Development] chuckhriczko:
Should be. They said everything is working other than those items. Plus the reason it is faster is the JIT compiler which is part of the core system so logically speaking, yes.
[EVO 4G Android Development] elodin_89:
Great, thanks!! Are there any special things that we'll be able to do with a rooted EVO that can't be done on any other rooted Android phone?
[EVO 4G Android Development] chuckhriczko:
Not really. I mean potentially we might be able to change the HDMI out to display the full UI instead of just video. Or maybe use Wireless Tether with 4g... Otherwise it should be about the same.
[EVO 4G Android Development] elodin_89:
Cool, anxiously awaiting it, great job Toast!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shidell:
Not to mention we get to use Android's stock applications (Contacts, Messaging, Browser, etc.) which I vastly prefer (although others may not).
[EVO 4G Android Development] maback:
I mean potentially we might be able to change the HDMI out to display the full UI instead of just video.

That's what I'm looking for!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] -viperboy-:
Re: {how to root your htc evo} <coming soon to a thread near you>

I am excited for root details but you guys gotta realize that HTC isn't going to release an update to block the way you guys are rooting in 1-2 days. They don't have the time or the resources to test and get this update out that fast.

And let's be real here... they're going to patch the root hole in froyo anyway.
[EVO 4G Android Development] adeyo:
does it really matter once we have root and we can make custom kernels/roms ourselves w/ froyo? i really don't know what i am talking about, but it would seem we wouldn't ota for froyo but could run our own version? correct me if i'm wrong.
[EVO 4G Android Development] JustinChase:
I replied to a former unfriendly post not realizing it was as old as it was, and that it had been "dealt with".

I did NOT mean to dredge this up, I just read it and reacted; not always a good move :)

sorry for inciting again, it was a mistake.
[EVO 4G Android Development] chuckhriczko:
Justin, there was no need to bring this up again. The idea here is not to argue and bringing up old messages like this doesn't help to stop the arguing. I appreciate your defense of the devs here and your enthusiasm but in the future let's try to stray from arguments. After all, we are here for one thing, right?
[EVO 4G Android Development] JustinChase:
correct, and corrected, sorry again :)

(it just irritates me when people *demand* free stuff)
[EVO 4G Android Development] chuckhriczko:
No problem bro. I feel the same way. I always want to retaliate when someone does that but it only leads to more problems. XDA in general is a tight knit community. We are all family to each other in a strange, digital way :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] chuckhriczko:
On a side note everyone, whoever donates to Toast should also donate to maejrep if he has a link up. They both equally deserve our donations once root is released.
[EVO 4G Android Development] scotchua:
Very wise words...read and react gets us all in a lot of trouble. :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] elodin_89:
Hey will Bluetooth headphones work with video (movies, sprint tv, etc...) as well as audio? Or just audio??
[EVO 4G Android Development] itmustbejj:
New to the forums

Hey all, new to the forum but wanted to do my intro before this place explodes here in the next couple days.

Props to the devs for all the hard hours, and the XDA mods for keeping such a great vibe in this place. I look forward to being a part of this great community.

Long live XDA and AOSP!
[EVO 4G Android Development] tokuzumi:
On my Hero, I used to watch YouTube videos through my bluetooth headphones, with no issues. That was back with Android 1.5. If I was hooked in through bluetooth, even the keyboard clicking noises came through the headphones. I see the Evo being no different.
[EVO 4G Android Development] chuckhriczko:
Yep. Since 1.5 Android has had the bluetooth profile for sending all audio through bluetooth. This means not just headphones but bluetooth stereos that accept input through bluetooth. Great for car stereos equipped with bluetooth. Wow, I said bluetooth a lot in that explanation.
[EVO 4G Android Development] elodin_89:
:eek: Yeah you did, great explanation though, thanks!
[EVO 4G Android Development] holmescal:
Hello all/ Brand new to the forums and I'm getting my EVO in 2 days!!! I appreciate all of the hard work that i'm seeing:)
[EVO 4G Android Development] thecolor:
root info...

out of curiosity... will Froyo or any mods through this or other processes, allow tethering without using Sprints Tethering option?

To clarify, I use JoikuSpot currently.. by being a third party option to tether on my device, I'm not at the mercy of the carrier. I simply activate the hotspot progam on my device and it uses my typical data plan/service without saying to the carrier "hey, I'm tethering, plese charge me more." ;)

thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] Repnepto:
As I understand. Yes since root has been achieved (once we are told how) we will be able to pretty much run any apps we would like. Also this will allow an eventual port of 2.2(froyo) which has this feature built in. All of which has me greatly excited.
[EVO 4G Android Development] thecolor:
"GREATLY" indeed! While this should allow for truly unlimited data (on any device you want) without having to "pay to use" what you already pay for. Exactly what AT&T is doing right now to their new subscribers. $20/$30 extra to use what you already pay for, that's stupid!

I'm stoked. HTC EVO and a second battery, here I come!
[EVO 4G Android Development] adeyo:
grack blog

we are getting closer to root. the guys at grack just posted this... http://unrevoked.com/
[EVO 4G Android Development] johnsongrantr:
that is so ****ing pimp i want to cry

just sayin
[EVO 4G Android Development] thecolor:
Have you tested the battery life with Froyo over the HTC/Sprint/EVO gui?

Curious to know if it gets better life.
[EVO 4G Android Development] :
June 4th be to far.
[EVO 4G Android Development] extrafuzzyllama:
anyone heard of this?

http://unrevoked.com
[EVO 4G Android Development] scottspa74:
+1

I too, need idiots guide. I been tweakin my winmo Diamond for a long time, but am getting Evo on the 4th. all the new android stuff is foreign to me (.tar, recovery.img -wtf?- need mass help). But xda is always great for thzt. Thank you to all ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] BenjRubenstein:
I'm so torn. I wanna run to the store and get the EVO, but I'm tempted to wait until we have a 2.2 stock ROM that's fully working.

Any advice? Keep in mind, I despise Sense.
[EVO 4G Android Development] timothydonohue:
this isn't really the thread for this but...

i'm also not sense crazy. i have patience though. i expect you can turn off most of what makes sense 'sense', due to the customizeable scenes that the evo offers. you could probably make it look very much like stock android, if you wish, i bet.
[EVO 4G Android Development] swaze:
Dude,

Take it from me, someone who prior to getting the Hero last october, never knew anything about android. I came to xda and learned (more simply followed directions) and rooted my phone, learned to flash ROMs, tweak, and alot of other stuff. You will be fine if you just read and follow the instructions. The guys here are more than helpful, but the most important thing you need to know......SEARCH IS YOUR FRIEND!!!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] roghaj:
If HTC/Sprint do find a way to plug this hole...

I am thankful to be an early adopter. Just got my BestBuy appt for 8AM.

-Roger
[EVO 4G Android Development] genius764:
Yes.

This is what I need to hear/read. I know nothing about android. This is gonna be fun!!! I'll be at the Shack at 8am. T minus 38 hrs...too damn long if you ask me. I know the have them in the store now. Why can we just get them now?!?
[EVO 4G Android Development] BenjRubenstein:
No, you really can't. Sense is deeply integrated. Even if you turn it off on the homescreen, you're still stuck with Sense apps and everything. I just want stock apps. I can't stand the way HTC goes about making their apps. Texting is annoying, phone logs suck. Etc...

That's what I'm afraid of. I don't wanna get screwed and end up getting an un-rootable one in a month or two.
[EVO 4G Android Development] p-slim:
One thing I need is apps to SD, once I'm able to do that I'll be so happy. There is no way stock evo will be able to support all the apps I have.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Tenny:
So... excuse me if this has been answered or not...

I assume it's been rooted on a Google I/O EVO, which is 2.1-update1 (which was the same naming scheme on the "beta" 2.1 updates for the Hero)...

Do we know if that's the shipping rom? I thought it was said that some apps would have newer versions (Qik) before launch... so would those be a new firmware, as Qik doesn't show up in my "downloads" on market, even though I have it. So how would it be "updated"

(I just tried doing a firmware update on my I/O Evo, and none available still).

Sorry I'm rambling, just wondering if any of these have been addressed. At least I know the Google I/O has already been rooted so I should be fine... :P
[EVO 4G Android Development] timothydonohue:
qik is in my market. but, i'm on froyo. nexus one
[EVO 4G Android Development] adj3369:
does anyone know if root will fix the issue with htc compressing the 720p hd so much?

will the root solve the issue of htc induced artifact issue and maximize the full capabilities of a hd 8mp camera?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Tenny:
Yes I know it's in the market, but there is a copy of it pre-installed. If you install the market one, you have two copies of Qik... thus I feel they wouldn't have us "update" it like that... as then we'd be stuck with it twice, and unable to remove the old one w/o root...
[EVO 4G Android Development] timothydonohue:
root access by itself doesn't do anything other than give you administrator access, which mean that you can THEN go in and do the subsequent tweaks you need to do.

by getting root access, you would then need to have to apply changes that some bright young individual has conjured up and determined that would fix the problem.
[EVO 4G Android Development] adj3369:
ok. thats what i was getting at. i hope the issue with the camera is remedied then.
[EVO 4G Android Development] twist:
I will be getting my Evo on the 4th as well and cannot wait to root it and go nuts with it, I have been a long time winmo user and the Evo finally sucked me away from MS
[EVO 4G Android Development] finebrian224:
I am curious about which root option to use. Being I have been following this thread for a couple days now, I will probably opt for Toast and Maejrep's solution. Keep up the good work guys!

I am a long time WinMo user as well (Treo 700wx and Treo 800w). This will be my first smartphone without a keyboard. Hopefully Android, the Evo, and the outcome of root goes well.
[EVO 4G Android Development] p-slim:
I will have my evo first thing in the morning. Whoever has their instructions up 1st is getting used.
[EVO 4G Android Development] shep211:
Looks like he is making a one click root but if you want to learn about adb/fastboot/bootloader here is a good post. Helped me coming from Touch Pro to nexus one. Recovery on my nexus one is sick. I can have rom back up images that I can flash in few mins. So I can play with sense, froyo & CyanogenMod-5 in just a few clicks.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=619153
[EVO 4G Android Development] Badious:
Just had my Evo set aside for me. Will be waiting after about 8:30 Friday for the instructions!
[EVO 4G Android Development] tokuzumi:
The end game will be the same. But if you use the other guys, and you feel guilty about it later, you can always donate to Toast/Maejrep...:p
[EVO 4G Android Development] TheBiles:
Re: {how to root your htc evo} <coming soon to a thread near you>

WTF? How many apps do you possibly have? I've got like 70 installed, and I still have over 200MB of free space.

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[EVO 4G Android Development] |Jason8|:
I have a freakin' HTC Dream (256MB ROM, running 2.1 roms) and I don't even need apps2sd! XD
[EVO 4G Android Development] Stunna4life888:
Correct me if im wrong but, wouldn't this cut the need to go to the marketplace to re-download your apps after you have flashed a rom? Once you go to the marketplace in Android the first time it will show what you have downloaded, but, after you exit it erases that info if im not mistaken. If im wrong someone please put me in my place fast lol:D
[EVO 4G Android Development] bck9900:
So besides changing the U.I. what will be the point in Rooting once 2.2 is released? Sprint has said there is no point in blocking any of the features; so that means wifi tethering will be enabled.

I guess they know that someone like toast will make it happen no matter what Sprint does.

I will probably end up rooting anyways; I liked some of the screenshots :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] Stunna4life888:
From what I hear there are some apps out there that will not run if your not rooted.
[EVO 4G Android Development] PeoplesHelper:
That is correct,Unless you re-download.
[EVO 4G Android Development] pingpongboss:
That's my experience as well. It's really annoying to have to install a bunch of apps at the same time. Or just use AppBrain.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Dreddge:
How much room is on the EVO for apps?
[EVO 4G Android Development] maejrep:
Any N1 users running froyo who can verify? It'd make sense for it to automatically recognize that your sdcard already contains apps that you had downloaded, and it should be a simple matter of reapplying the app meta data to be able to use it again. I've already flashed back to 2.1 due to the camera, so I can't check right now.

App2SD did work correctly, but not with the stock kernel. It requires a new kernel that supports blk_loopback, as that's how it does a2sd securely (mounts a file/image that lives on the sdcard, to /mnt/asec/). Luckily toast has already released the kernel source (see "makeshift" kernel source thread), and it was an easy task to enable that loopback device, and after that it worked fine.

I like the way they did apps2sd.. Other a2sd solutions require partitioning your sd card, and that's kind of inconvenient, since neither partition can grow/shrink at will.
[EVO 4G Android Development] maejrep:
"Internal phone storage" shows 321MB available. So it's at least that much :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] JustinLoe:
Titanium Backup will do a nice batch restore of all your apps pretty quickly. Save your money on class 6 and just get a nice 16gb class 2. 1gb of storage should be plenty enough anyway.
[EVO 4G Android Development] theillustratedlife:
developer.sprint.com advertises 1GB ROM.
[EVO 4G Android Development] toastcfh:
update tutorial. enjoy :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] muf454:
hours of following the root thread... check

the release of root instructions... check

HTC EVO to root... pending

The 4th can't come soon enough :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] maejrep:
:cool: before launch!
[EVO 4G Android Development] apristel:
STELLAR!!

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[EVO 4G Android Development] Repnepto:
Im not sure if you realize that you are just amazing. Now I am even more excited to get my paws on the Evo. 6am sharp Friday morning.
[EVO 4G Android Development] maejrep:
Yeah, toast, that's not cool... you're like dangling this fruit in front of everyone, and they can't eat it until Friday. Everyone takes it back, don't release root until Friday, so everyone can have their cake and eat it too! :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] ChrisChavez:
I'm gonna do a video on this as soon as I figure out how to use ADB. I've been avoiding it this whole time since my G1.

I fail. =(

Great work though!!!! =D
[EVO 4G Android Development] spurnout:
Not able to flash root!

So I put that .zip file on the root of my SDcard and turned off the phone. I then held down the volume down button and the power button until the bootloader screen came up and i continued to hold volume down until I saw it run through the files and it went really fast so I couldn't tell what happened but there was no blue progress bar and it didn't ask me to flash. Did I do something wrong?
[EVO 4G Android Development] pingpongboss:
hmm can't get it to work either

Maybe the ZIP is corrupt? I can't even extract it onto my Desktop