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[HD2 General] d0ug:
Since it sounds like the HSPA+ update on the network is mainly a software update to the tower radios and a backend upgrade to provide the bandwidth to the towers, why couldn't the radio ROM on our HD2's be upgraded to allow HSPA+?

essentially the radio on each end of the air interface has to be the same thing, other than the chip sets being made by different manufacturers. though im sure the radios on the cell towers are capable of pumping out more transmit power and probably have a much more sensitive receiver.
[HD2 General] dy2k:
I am in Queens, New York getting speeds of 400-700 kbps :P
[HD2 General] roteplex:
Hey guys I regularly travel between Long Island and queens and I have never got speeds above 2 Mbps??? Can someone post exact locations where there speeds have passed 4Mbps??? I really want to test out HSPA+ even if it means driving out somewhere.
[HD2 General] dy2k:
First of all what device do you have. Maybe its not capable of more then 2 Mbps speeds. I get about 5 Mbps with speakeasy's speed test tethering my Tmo HTC HD2 on desktop.

I am in Flushing, New York.

Testmy results

:::.. Download Stats ..:::

Download Connection is:: 4986 Kbps about 5 Mbps (tested with 25600 kB)

Download Speed is:: 609 kB/s

Tested From:: http://testmy.net/ (Main)

Test Time:: 2010-06-03 01:32:51 GMT

Bottom Line:: 87X faster than 56K 1MB Download in 1.68 sec

Tested from a 25600 kB file and took 42.062 seconds to complete

Download Diagnosis:: Awesome! 20% + : 518.61 % faster than the average for host (tmodns.net)

D-Validation Link:: http://testmy.net/stats/id-SAOYRT4CP

User Agent:: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.3) Gecko/20100401 Firefox/3.6.3 [!]
[HD2 General] DonJohe:
2.33/0.37/101ms is about what I get on the HD2 itself using a fast Comcast fed wireless-N router.

<1/0.3/~300ms is average for here (south of Atlanta)using the radio.

I've seen as high as 3 down in Minneapolis area.

24/3/24ms is typical on the home pc.

It would interest me to know what everyone else gets on the phone.

BTW, using no cooked ROMs, only newest stock plus loads of middle and apps.

Was told by the local Tmob that the area wad scheduled for a speed increase upgrade in July.

Also wonder why Speedtest.org sometimes suggests Wash DC, other times Atlanta as nearest destination.

Can't test any 3g at home because no local reception. Have to use an amplifier but that only passes E and voice. I hope they put up a lot more antennas. That high frequency is fast but has weak object penetration capabilities.
[HD2 General] DonJohe:
My home Comcast hardwired to the router looks like this.

Seems like a lot of throughput and processing speed loss to do this on the phone.

Would be nice if someone could make a speed test as reliable and simple as this (especially the nearest serer part) without having to resort to flash.
[HD2 General] :
This is the mobile speed test page from DSLreports ... just replace the xx with tt in the link ...

hxxp://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?jisok=1
[HD2 General] Tm5078:
check this out!

http://www.tmonews.com/2010/06/is-hspa-coming-to-your-city-find-out-now/
[HD2 General] :
The hardware spec for the HD2 says no HSPA+ but the TMO website lists the HD2 as a supported phone ... hmmmm the plot thickens .....
[HD2 General] heygrl:
It supports the new HSPA+ network, not full HSPA+ speed
[HD2 General] DonJohe:
I'm near I-85 and GA 74 tethering with WiFi. On the phone directly I got:

1.63/1.02/96ms.

I've tried the other mobile speed tests but they always seem to respond froom the same server and internet speed from local gateway to the server can influence the results - or?
[HD2 General] heygrl:
Unfortunately with Windows Mobile the only reliable way of testing data speed is through tethering.
[HD2 General] :
I would beg to differ on that statement ....

There are mobile speed tests that work fine ...

The PROBLEM with mobile speed tests is, not only do you have the tower speed to contend with you have the current proxy server you are connected to0 ...

TMO and others use proxy servers for their connections that is why you do not get a public IP ..

Now On TMO if you have thier "VPN" connection, you can get a pubic IP, but knowing a little about the backbone, you are still between two NAT routers, so you are double NAT'd with a static mapped outside IP.

So it is not really WinMo that makes it hard to run a speed test it is the providers in general , it will vary very much tower to tower ..

http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?jisok=1

Works great, and is consistent as long as you do not change towers or signal strength too much so I know the test works.
[HD2 General] heygrl:
Where is the higher than 1MB speedtest? If you have no file larger than 1MB it's unreliable. Besides the fact that using it through your browser will always be inconsistent. Tethering is the BEST way to gauge network speed.. I don't understand the fight here.
[HD2 General] :
there is no pleasing you is there ...

First off where do you find the info that you have to have larger than one meg file to be accurate ...??

I know you need at least one meg to be good but where is your info coming from ???

I have worked for ISP's , Telco's , Web Companies, we always used 1 meg files as the baseline .... just do it 3 or 4 times and take the average ... you do not need a larger file, unless you are talking gig
[HD2 General] heygrl:
Maybe that was fine back when DSL was just getting it's feet wet but this is what I get with a 5Mbps connection:

So obviously 1: the website agrees with me 2: you're wrong, there needs to be a larger file to download when you're testing high speed connections.
[HD2 General] :
umm yeah, and when you choose a larger file the largest is 1MB , so the website agrees with me, that 1MB is large enough, I guess you did not figure out how to click the link and see what was next ....

And 5mb please, we tested OC128's on a regular basis, get a clue ...
[HD2 General] heygrl:
um , duh ... I was already on that page ... when you click the link it brings you BACK to the same page . Get a clue .
[HD2 General] the7thson:
Sorry dude but you're just plain wrong, no other way around it. To get an accurate test for a faster connection, 1MB is typically too small a filesize.

Also, I'm reasonably sure that tethering should provide more consistent and therefore accurate test results. Although I pretty consistently get around 1.2mbps at mobilespeedtest.com on Opera. With IE however, those results vary wildly.
[HD2 General] :
Typically you are right, but when dealing with wireless you are wrong ...

Also when wanting a time built average of transfers 1MB gives you more accurate, and here is why ...

1MB files are less likely to fall prey to major packet loss

Larger files while giving you a sustained speed test do not give you an accurate over all average , the longer the transfer the more likely you are to have packet loss in the middle of the transfer , TTL failures and the like, so the results are not as accurate over time ...

So if you want to actually measure the speed that is there you need to do several smaller tests, that will give you the overall speed ...

IF you just want to know what you get moment to moment then sure the big files will give you that instant , but not really giving you an overall number ...

This is one of the reasons your overall tests with larger files vary so much ..
[HD2 General] 1quickturbosix:
I keep hearing people say they must "activate" it or "turn it on" on their phone... Where the hell do you do that at?
[HD2 General] DonJohe:
Wow - seems to be lots of passion for a subject that isn't hugely important and that no one can directly impact.

Today I'm near downtown Nashville and tethering I'm getting:

Which is also very similar to what I'm getting on the phone directly.

Notable is also that Speedtest once again suggested Atlanta as nearest location. Seeing Wash DC and Atlanta constantly as the two closest cities suggests to me that the connection is not actually hitting the web until it goes through a bunch of Tmo hardware which in turn suggests that even if the last mile is fast there are many things that could slow it down. That probably also explains the high ping times going through 3g.

Can someone else do a tracert to Google and tell me why it's going through so many weird addresses (Ford, 3M, Montevideo UR, Queensland AU, Bloomfield CO, then Google Atlanta)?

There's a few things that I'd like to know in all of this. First, what kind of bandwidth can I expect around what areas. Specific numbers aren't really important and I think there is a number somewhere above which the phone is slower so it doesn't matter. I'm thinking if the 1MB test says too fast, the connection is probably fast enough to do anything the phone can process. While I don't often need to tether, that limit will be more important when I do.

The other part of this is that I'd like to be able to look at the phone and tell what kind of connection I can tell if I should look for a wifi connection somewhere or will the phone provide what I need at that moment.

I understand that the stock ROMs will not report HSPDA, +, or even 3g. I have also seen E and G in the connection icon blocks. I also understand that even the modified ROMs will not always reliably and accurately report the connection type.

Does anyone know any way to tell what kind of connection the phone is using?

I also wonder if anyone out there can decipher the *#*#364#*#* results? There is a lot of info in those screens and knowing what it means could give a bunch of info.

I understand the AGC signals but the rest is puzzling.

Seems to me that actual download speed is unimportant
[HD2 General] DonJohe:
So now I'm about 300 ft closer to I85 and a few days later and now I'm getting this:

and this:

would be great if that was everywhere all the time - or at least when the phone says 3G.

On the phone directly I got 3.04/0.70/133ms.
[HD2 General] sirphunkee:
For anybody still into this topic, I recently discovered (i.e. I saw someone else using it) that speakeasy's desktop speedtest site will actually run just fine in IE on the HD2. I've been using it lately and it works like a charm:

www.speakeasy.net/speetest

I couldn't get it to run in Opera, 9.7 anyway, didn't try it in skyfire.
[HD2 General] Moschdog:
Agreed speed is a-cookin

Tried multiple speed tests via phone, and this evening connected as modem to my computer.

Ran about 5 tests, and the results are showing one FAST CONNECTION. I'm in Columbus Ohio. At the time I ran this, my phone was showing full bars on "H". Yes I know that doesn't mean it's 100% running on HSPA, but these speeds don't lie. All tests were ran via speedtest.net.

Speed was decent enough for me to just realize I'm still running off my phone, forgot to turn my cable modem adapter back on.

I'm impressed
[HD2 General] ericman77:
O so that's what that H on the signal is for.
[HD2 General] ericman77:
Been seeing it pop up here in indianapolis.
[HD2 General] chadster214:
I'm not getting that fast connection

I live in 818 San Fernando Valley. and I'm disappointed with my connection. I can't even get a 1mbps via mobilespeedtest. my connection keeps flipping between 3G, Edge and GPRS. can anyone give me advice to improve this?
[HD2 General] noellenchris:
took a trip from NJ to NC this last weekend and got stuck in traffic just past DC going into VA. Kept running speedtest.net on iexplorer and got speeds from 1mb to 4.6! I stopped for gas and ran the test on the way back to 95 and got several 3+'s and then the highest was 4600 and some change! Wish I had that HSPA+ at my home. It was entertaining anyways. Nice to see what the + is going to be like!:D
[HD2 General] scrizz:
I'm getting the 4Mb speeds, but my ping is not as low as the ones i see here.

my ping hovers around 180ms.

They just activated HSPA+ here, so I don't know if the low ping comes next???

:(
[HD2 General] DonJohe:
Got this today near I35W and Lexington Rd. in Shoreview MN (Near Minneapolis). This was about the best one I saw of several attempts. The worst DL speed I saw in those test was just under 3Mbs.

Was also seeing similar values on the phone directly (using either speedtest mini or Speakeasy).

Guess TMO has their act a bit better together with the backend up here. Could also be a lower population density.
[HD2 General] Wdave:
Uhh...

Yea... this is getting strange. These are average pulls tethered through usb...

Not going to say i'm not happy but this cant be possible.

Moar
[HD2 General] DonJohe:
WDave - which ROM & Radio versions are you using? I've seen other posts of really fast speeds in the Northeast but was wondering if the firmware had anything to do with. I see the server selected is also in the Northeast. All I've ever seen is Washington DC, Chicago and Atlanta, and that not always the closest of those three. Wonder if they have a much better backbone up there.

Also noticed that the upload speeds were all about identical despite varying dl speeds. Wonder if that's hitting a built-in limit somewhere while the DL speeds are varying based on traffic?

Here's another one from Memphis, near the airport, full five bars, Wifi tethering of course. Average stuff. (Note the location going to Atlanta)
[HD2 General] DonJohe:
This one's in Ocala Florida. So why did this go to Clifton NJ????

This is also only with 1-2 bars reception but I'm in the exact middle of the T-Mobile "Very Fast Mobile Web" really really dark purple area. BUt Ocala is not part of the TMous HSPA+ network.

Wouold be nice if we could tell this from the phone software.
[HD2 General] DonJohe:
Interesting - got another bar by turning it upside down. After hearing the Iphone antenna problems I also tried holding the phone up-side-down and I find that generally, if the reception is less than 5 bars, holding it upside down - grabbing it on top instead of the bottom - will improve the reception a bit.

Gotta test this some more in other locations.

So now with three bars:
[HD2 General] maxpower097:
In Tampa I get 3.74 down and .89 up everywhere I get a H/3G connection.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bgeorgi:
I just flashed with energyz new rom the may 22 release, and i can't get google maps to work with gps, it previously worked when i was using the old rom but i remember i had to configure it manually, i set both google maps and my gps program settings for COM 4, but it still can't find satelites, i have quick gps downloaded and still nothing, it just says searching for satelites for the longest time.. i dont recall setting a baud rate previously and i don't know what it does, would that be the problem?? Any suggestions??
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bgeorgi:
i've been waiting for like a month and i know atleast one of u have a working google maps gps on your phone.. wow this forum is sad sometimes..
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lokatho:
Next time try posting it in the EnergyROM thread, don't recall someone with the same issue.

Did you try other GPS programs like HTC GPSTool, Chartcross GPSTest or Bing? And do they work?

I had no problems with EnergyROMs and GPS fixes in TomTom, GoogleMaps eg.

I mostly use the Co0kie, GTX or MaxSense 23569 EnergyROMs.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Draken Korin:
correct, rom specific problems belong into the respective rom thread and not into a new one

also you should keep in mind that other members help or don't in their own time and on their own free will and not when it fits your needs, so for the future pls keep your manners
[Hero CDMA General] joshuaharp:
A little over a month ago I flashed the damagecontrol ROM and haven't looked back. Aside from having 2.1 early, I was also able to access su features, blah blah blah. My question is: I am still losing internal memory even after enabling A2SD, partitioning my SD card into three sections (ext3, swap, and probably fat32 or something). I noticed a gain of about 40mb right away but each time I download a program my internal memory shrinks. Any ideas? I'm not a pro at this but really wanting to learn.

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[Hero CDMA General] Kcarpenter:
Even with A2SD there are still files that get written to internal storage for cacheing. You will see your memory go down.
[Hero CDMA General] joshuaharp:
Ah. I didn't realize that. Are there other ways to free up the internal memory? I'm down to around 25mb...

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[Hero CDMA General] willowmp:
If you have a nice class of sd card you could move dalvik to sd. That freed up a good spot of memory for me.
[Hero CDMA General] xxxk15:
the same thing is going on with my phone i only see an added 40mb onto the internal storage when i put on a2sd,when i hear about other kids that get around 90mb when using a2sd.
[Hero CDMA General] joshuaharp:
I just threw a 4GB Class 6 in and partitioned it. Before that I was running the stock 2GB (Class 2 I think). I've been considering a few options but not sure what the process should be and how to proceed:

- dalvik cache to sd

- jit compiling (alhtough, I've almost completely ruled this out due to rumors of instability issues)

- swapping sd (I'm not sure if this will have ill-effects on my system or not)

I would feel at more liberty to experiment if I knew what to do if my phone ran into an error that crippled it (i.e., stuck in boot loop). I'm really fresh to this, so it's a bit intimidating at first.
[Hero CDMA General] willowmp:
Before you read one more post on this forum go install RA-Amon's recovery and make a nandroid backup. Then copy the backup folder onto your computer.

That is if you haven't already done so. This will save you a lot of trouble should something go wrong, unless you really do something spectacular. ;)

Edit: Just checked my internal memory. 149mb free and I have a handfull of apps installed atm.

On another note I flashed the godmode overclocked kernel, the 768 one or whatever, and installed setcpu, and my god my phone is fast. Current settings are max 767, min: 518. Yes my min is fairly high but at 518 it is butter smooth and I have multiple batteries so...
[Hero CDMA General] joshuaharp:
This kernel (.29 kernel, right?) is one I've been recently considering. I've made a nandroid backup through ROM Manager (is this as good as RA-Amon's recovery?). I'm not sure what to do with this should something go wrong...unless I can boot up and have access to the ROM Manager app – I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. Some questions:

concerning flashing a recovery

- what exactly does this do? (as I understand it, it writes a recovery file to my sd card, so that i can boot up in recovery mode should something cause my os to fail...is this correct?)

concerning the godmode overclocked kernel

- how long have you had this flashed on your phone?

- can I flash over my current ROM (damagecontrol 2.08.1)?

- will I lose info and have to wipe everything not on my SD card?

- I've partitioned my sd card for A2SD, will this cause problems?

- how long is your battery life on average?

Thanks dude.
[Hero CDMA General] xxxk15:
What did you set your swap and ext on when you partitioned your sd
[Hero CDMA General] willowmp:
ext: 1024 (or whatever the first 1gig choice is, I believe it is something like this)

swap: 30 (I believe, or whatever it automatically pops up as when formatting)

Through Dconfig I have apps2sd, dalvik to sd, and sd swapping with the default 30mb enabled.

Dalvik heap is set to 16mb and lowmemkiller set to less. JIT not enabled.

Current version DamageControl, the 768 overclocked kernel and toast's newest radio.
[Hero CDMA General] joshuaharp:
So, through the damagecontrol dconfig app I banned "sense", rebooted and now my phone is stuck in a bootloop. Do I restore from previous nandroid backup or do I need to flash my phone? Suck.
[Hero CDMA General] joshuaharp:
Just want to say first off: "I am an idiot". Nandroid backup from 5 days ago, booted up by holding *home and *power, then selecting to restore. Very easy. I can actually breathe now. Back in business. Sorry to waste your guy's time. We can keep the thread going minus my drama...
[Hero CDMA General] willowmp:
It's all good.

See why I emphasized flashing your recovery before messing with anything? xD
[Hero CDMA General] joshuaharp:
I set the swap to 32mb and ext3 to 512mb I believe...does this sound right?
[Hero CDMA General] joshuaharp:
Dude...helped IMMENSELY! I'm still digesting it.

That's good to know about flashing radios. I was going to flash the most recent one for 2.1 roms on CDMA heros, but I think I'll wait to hear more about it.

I think I feel comfortable flashing the .29 kernel over my current ROM. I gotta be honest though, the DConfig thing kind of weirds me out now, after trying to use it. I'm not sure which button is going to cause my phone to freak out.
[Hero CDMA General] joshuaharp:
I'm considering doing this but have read that this causes issues with nandroid backup. Have you experienced this?

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[Desire Android Development] alpinux:
Hi folks!

My desire should arrive within a week or so. The past days i tried to collect as much data about getting full root-access with r/w access to /system.

We probably need a modified SSPL and a HardSPL. So far i've tried to contact cmonex, gauner1986 and haykuro to help us here.

So there is the first question to you (desire owners): Do we have jtag on the desire? Haykuro asked me; jtag is required otherwise testing is impossible.

UPDATE 1:

We found one device with r/w-access to /system, but we don't know where the security flag is set, so we can't set it to "normal" phones.

Adam235 is currently analyzing the dumped files.

UPDATE 2:

ahmgsk provided his recovery. Playtime.

http://www.multiupload.com/XTRBWD6ML2

Update 3:

Nand was unlocked for the EVO 4G. Maybe this helps us.

Update 4:

New root method, which should work with any new 2.1 HTC Phone, but we still don't have full write access to /system:

http://forum.androidspin.com/showthread.php?p=13939#post13939
[Desire Android Development] sruon:
Well first off, good luck.

Don't we need schematics to know that or at the very least to rip apart the Desire to access motherboard and possibly find JTAG pins ?

Any less barbaric way? :<
[Desire Android Development] alpinux:
It seems this is the only way...
[Desire Android Development] i6bazar:
Anyone has high res picture of the desire MB ?
[Desire Android Development] Kali-:
some one have posted it on modaco irc channel, but u need a full working xda-china account, after register i still have problem :(

http://www.xda-china.net/thread-52190-1-1.html
[Desire Android Development] myth1001:
Here's some pictures of the Desire. Credits to original poster(百事可乐) of Xda-china !
[Desire Android Development] alias_neo:
Judging by the usb bricking showing the phones as qualcomm devices, and further by the mention of some Qualcomm development/debug tools mentioned on XDA, i'd say if anything, the JTAG connection is obtained via the USB port, and is activated by somehow switching the device to the debug mode.
[Desire Android Development] shawe_ewahs:
It think also that this can be a possibility
[Desire Android Development] 7pellc:
Ahem...I think you mean joint first JD. :)
[Desire Android Development] alpinux:
Thanks for the input so far.

Over at modaco someone got a phone with full r/w access to system.

Anyone got an idea which addresses we need to dump the spl with pmemdump?
[Desire Android Development] alpinux:
Here is the link to modaco. The user is called maddoxus.

http://android.modaco.com/content-page/309939/usb-brick-rickrolled-b0rked-fixed/page/120/#

Kubino is working on dumping the spl!
[Desire Android Development] kubino99:
We have dumped hidden part (containing radio, spl, splash ....), Adam235 is analyzing the dump.
[Desire Android Development] DocRambone:
This is fantastic news, a proper root may be possible now :D
[Desire Android Development] kubino99:
We don't know yet if we are able to write to hidden part, assuming it would be not that easy. ;-)
[Desire Android Development] alpinux:
Maybe Adam235 or you should also try to contact haykuro or cmonex.