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[Desire Android Development] NCFreezz:
Apps

Richard, is there a way I can convince you to move Titanium, RomManager, SpareParts and torch to the apps.zip file?

Titanium is off no use because the market sync's your apps afer a wipe, and non market apps are most likely on your SD anyway. And for system backup we use nandroid witch backups EVERYTHING!!

RomManager why when we have DefrostSetup witch works perfectly !!

SpareParts is no use with these type off CM-based ROM's

And troch is hardly and "system-app".

I know that this is just my 2cents but installing missing apps is way easier that booting into recovery to remove an useless app like SpareParts or torch.

And if you want some "personal" apps in the /system/app location, just put an apps.zip on your SD card and flash it after a full wipe, now I keep removing, updating DeFrost, removing again, and updating again and on and on...
[Desire Android Development] TheNose:
My thoughts exactly. Defrost is a great rom, especially with the extra kernell options you provide. But the extra apps I don't use and have to make an effort to remove keep pushing me back to OpenDesire, when I really want to use Defrost!
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
This has been debated. I absolutely disagree with you 100%

If after a wipe, it all stuffs up, instead of having to do a set up, log into gmail get to the market, perhaps even set up your apns or wifi network before you can get into the market and download titanium - its already there.

Rom manager for those who have rooted by old fashioned methods and have no custom recovery, its vital. defrost setup is fine for defrost set up, but we backup and restore via rom manager. Rather than going through the above, its better to have it there.

For the few who dont want it, Id rather have the safety of quick recovery methods in teh knowledge that a handful of people of are unhappy, than to keep the few happy and have a catastrophic failure on my hand that is hard to recover from.
[Desire Android Development] richardtrip:
+1

This is exactly the reason i put it in the base rom.
[Desire Android Development] phrenzi:
Hi Richard, is there any chance you can add CIFS to Defrost?

Thanks.
[Desire Android Development] Laridia:
I agree regarding keeping Titanium, ROM Manager and Spare Parts, but the Torch app doesn't seem to be in quite the same category as these.

Just installing 5.0 with the new 5.0a kernel now :) .
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
Spare parts and torch can go as far as I AK concerned
[Desire Android Development] gashead_12:
Help...

Hi people,

I was running Defrost 4.9 happily in the browser, when the phone froze. I pulled the battery and restarted, but now only get the white HTC bootscreen for an indefinite amount of time. I've tried booting to recovery but the same thing happens, I can't get to the red exclamation screen, just the white bootscreen indefinitely.

Ive tried clearing the storage on the fastboot screen, but no luck.

Please help guys. :'(
[Desire Android Development] buchman:
i'm not fussed about spare parts, but I would be a bit worried if I had no torch and the lights went out with me having no Internet connection.

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
Not sure what you're talking.g about. The launcher on defrost is the standard Android launcher, not launcherpro
[Desire Android Development] buzmay:
I have an amazing battery life with the 5.0a HAVS 113, not BSOD nor anything is great..

Thanks for the great effort.
[Desire Android Development] ajanu:
I had the same thing last night after I installed circle mod on 5.0. Rom was bootlooping and I could not get recovery. I just re-fashed clockwork with Unrevoked. Worked way better than the 1st time I did it, the changes they made make a huge difference. Once you have flashed clockwork you'll be fine to restore any backup or install 5.0.
[Desire Android Development] alienwolf426:
has anyone flashed the s-off recovery with defrost?

this is what i mean .. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=794314
[Desire Android Development] buzmay:
Yes I have, and was no problem at all
[Desire Android Development] Originalas:
Defrost setup > CG Circle mod file is missing. Could anyone upload it here? :)
[Desire Android Development] XDA mark:
Question: I see version 5 of the DeFrost rom is available. Now I see version 5 also in the 'DeFrost Setup' app. If I press download and install, is there anything else I have to do after that? (i r noob)

And question number 2, since I am coming from 4.9 and this is only a small update: will I need to restore all my stuff again or does this update leave everything in its place?
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
If you don't wipe which you don't need going to a newer version.of defrost, everything should remain as is.

Should backup your 4.9 with nandroid first though.

So backup, download, install
[Desire Android Development] asmaridis:
Assuming you're using Clockwork recovery (I have no knowledge concerning other recoveries) , then no, there is nothing else to do.

Again no, if you're going from 4.9 to 5.0, just download and install. Everything will be in place.
[Desire Android Development] asmaridis:
danfrance, I'm curious to know what setup and kernels you're using.

DeFrost 5.0 ? SVS/HAVS ?

In any case I've been on 5.0 SVS 1113 MHz. It has been running very smoothly, I must say faster than it ever has. But battery life, oh boy. Got fully drained in 12 hours of somewhat moderate-heavy usage. More on the heavy side I would say. But for the first 6 hours I had used some wifi and received a few calls for a drop of like 30%.

Weird, considering I've done a full wipe.
[Desire Android Development] XDA mark:
Could you give me a bit of information on Nandroid? I did a search and ended up in the G1 forum with a topic on Nandroid 2.0. Anyway, I have been reading about this program for a while but used 'MyBackup' instead. Any help is much appreciated, I know helping beginners isn't exactly fun but I could really use some tips :P
[Desire Android Development] NCFreezz:
Not convinced....

you're saying that DeFrost users who have a ROM update every few days rely on rommanagers "boot in recovery" function to flash the new ROM. We flash almost every other day! Use one of these days to install unrevoked or s-off then you don't have to rely on an app when something goes wrong and for a nandroid backup its easier to have a recovery in place, as for titanium maybe an idea to put the apk on you're SD card so you, who use it, can install it when needed and we who don't don't have to ... I'm not going to involve torch or SpareParts in this debat, those are just apps that probably Richard (in his good right) likes and uses and have nothing to do with ROM building...

I'm do not want to start a discussion about what comes and goes in this ROM, it is Richard child so he can make it like he wants to and we all agree his ROM at this moment is the best there is, so thanks for that, but if you make somthing for yourself and it becomes huge popular then there comes a time where you have to think what is best for the "fans" but this is just my idea...

Again i'm not looking to start a long discussion and yes i can edit the rom.zip to my liking so no worries and last but not least THANK YOU RICHARD for your great work!!

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Another point: new HAVS 998Mhz 5.0a is super stable and runs great here!!! happy with that...
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
I have been very happy on 4.9 SVS 1190Mhz (clocked to 1113Mhz, 1190 seems to cause reboots when browsing).

I have been happy with all 4.9 SVS that I have tried (4.9, 4.9a and 4.9f)

HAVS gave me 1 BSOD and not very good battery so went back to SVS.

On SVS with moderate to Heavy use (screen on over 2-3 Hours) it would last me well from 08:00 - 22:30 without charge.

I flashed 5.0 less than an hour ago, and trying 5.0a HAVS 1113. So far so good, but as soon as I get a BSOD, I will try SVS 1190. I always start with HAVS
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
If you rooted using unrevoked, you will have clockwork recovery that you can boot into (turn off phone, hold vol down press power, choose recovery), you can backup from there.

If you rooted before unrevoked and now use rom manager, you can "flash" clockworkmod recovery from there and choose "backup current rom"
[Desire Android Development] nitrox1:
Been busy all day. But been having bsod on havs 5.0, and freezing, and reboots on svs, which really was surprise to me.

As I said didn't have time to check defrost setup, but running 5.0a now.

Are last_kmsg's any good anymore, and remind me where they are located, as couldn't seem to find it.

Sent from the 25th century.
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
No I'm not, I'm saying for those old timers who didn't root using unrevoked (but used other methods) who haven't got clockworkmod recovery as their main recovery (and perhaps don't want it), ROM manager is the best way to do a nandroid backup or recovery.

I agree that would make sense, but I have a HTC engineering recovery which I really do not want to lose.

I have an .apk on my sd card but how do I install it without downloading something like Astro and still having to set up the market, connections etc?

Yes I am aware that there is a built in file manager (which I remove), so I have to flash the rom without removing the apps that I want to remove so that you don't have to remove apps?

It's a custom rom but its 1 version, not 16 different versions. Everyone likes it set up differently, so there is no way that everyone can be happy with it off the shelf. I have to remove apps and so do you. Its really easy to do before a flash. You literally have to browse to it through astro and delete 2 .apks.

For the sake of having 1 person who no longer has to delete 2 .apk's, is it worth excluding those very important applications, on which I ssume several others rely?

I know you're not wanting a fight or lengthy discussion and nor do I but since you replied, I would like to offer my perspective.

Please don't think that I am trying to fight, I just disagree with you - thats all.
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
Internal memory. Root of proc/
[Desire Android Development] Originalas:
cmon need link to working cg mod for defrost 5.0 :)
[Desire Android Development] Latty:
Hm, DeFroST Setup says 1113 MHz is @ 1275mV for HAVS, but my OSMonitor messages is reading 1300mV...I'm guessing it's the latter then
[Desire Android Development] Dramiro:
Ok, thanks. Yes was think is Launcher Pro :(
[Desire Android Development] Dramiro:
About the apk's:

I Uses the Defrost because I like the work done with the kernel, his ROM it's more fasater than others and more stable (somtimes x-D) but I think, he need do one apk.zip with apks, not neccessary to Defrost functions and install this apks to /data/app for uninstall or move to SD (like torch, titaniumBackup, google apks, facebook, twiter, flashplayer and other's)

And Defrost ROM.zip it should have, the necessary for the proper functioning of this excellent ROM: DefrostSetup, ROMManager, SuperUser, DFparts etc)

I hope you undestand my proposition.

Great job Richard and developers
[Desire Android Development] Marsbar:
That sounds sweet to me. That way a new defrost can be updated just by downloading the defrost rom (without taking out apps you don't want and which will be far smaller) and the apps you can build your own if you care and flash any updates separately.
[Desire Android Development] atomfix:
FFS!! made a bloody mistake of moving onto 5.0 because now I get installation failed on everything and not enough free space. Clearly it says 131mb free and save destination is on phone memory.
[Desire Android Development] weirdNumber:
I installed the latest radio and installed 5.0 and now I have apparently no space on my SD card. Reverted to my nandroid backup and I still have the same problem. I can't install apps or updates now.
[Desire Android Development] EViollet:
WiFi question

Hi.

This is an issue I've been having since I switched to AOSP (DeFrost and OpenDesire), so not directly linked to DeFrost, but perhaps someone can help me.

At home, I have 2 APs : Home1 and Home2.

At work, I have 1 AP : Work.

I'm also using JuiceDefender.

WHen I switch the screen off, WiFi switches off, and switches back on as soon as I switch the screen back on. Up till now everything is normal.

However, considering that the WiFi connects correctly when at home, if I go to my office, and switch on the screen, WiFi switches on, but it won't connect automatically to the Work AP. I have to connect manually to the AP for it to work.

And then, when I go back home, I have to connect manually to one of the home APs otherwise it just switches on WiFi and doesn't connect to any AP.

Any ideas? Is there something I'm missing ? I did full wipes on OD and DeFrost, without importing any parameters, and I still see the problem.

In advance, thanks.

Regards,
[Desire Android Development] heyjoe66:
5 is great!!!

No more animations lag

5.0 havs fallen in bsod, but 5.0a running allright so far

Battery life not worse for sure
[Desire Android Development] braso:
I've been on 5.0a for a bit over 12 hours and it looks promising so far. No BSOD running HAVS 1113. Only issue is no pretty coloured icons yet!

Thanks for all your efforts Richard.
[Desire Android Development] NCFreezz:
Thanks for you're view on things, we disagree on the default apps but the most important thing is that we both love this great work by Richard, so you delete you're apps, and i'll delete mine.. :)

BTW I'm running 5.0a now (998mhz HAVS) and I think it's the most stable release up until now...
[Desire Android Development] jazha:
Been running 5.0 since last night, with a mix of kernels, havs 5.0 998Mhz first, then havs 5.0a 998Mhz, and now havs 5.0a 1113Mhz, no BSOD, no lag, no wierdness.

Loosing about 1% battery per hour(while not in use) .. awesome!
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
Couldn't imagine running anything other than defrost.

1113 Havs stable so far. Battery seems good.

Not put it under strain yet but looking promising so far.

:)
[Desire Android Development] Abaregi:
Yeah that would be nice, I absolutely love Defrost, but cleaning out all the apps is a real chore.

Anyway thanks for a great rom!

**edit

btw the camera is default from cyanogen right? The only 1 thing I miss from sense is the "widescreen" mode they have. Miss having the pictures taken fill out the screen in landscape mode and on my comp 16:10 screen. The pictures fell like seeing old TV programs on a new flat panel TV with the cropped bars on the side :/

Do I whine about that here or over at cyanogen? :)
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
A normal widescreen is 16:9. What monitors is 16:10?

Edit.. if we all have our way and remove our specified apps, there would be little left.

Since we're making a list, Google voice can go, as can HTC IME mod
[Desire Android Development] shokwaav:
I'm pretty sure theres the option of choosing four megapixel wide screen pictures in the camera settings
[Desire Android Development] motaboy:
Hello, I just have switched from OD Rom to Defrost and little bit confused how to theme it. Previously I used bluefrost theme, but in topic for this theme I found only old version (defrost 3). Could any one tell newbie how to find bluefrost theme for defrost Rom?
[Desire Android Development] jcrompton:
5a 998 HAVS has been stable all day for me (after 10 min before BSOD with 5)

Thanks
[Desire Android Development] tyyau:
I don't seem to have carhome anymore, nor can I install it from market. Much appreciate your advise
[Desire Android Development] webrosc:
carhome is in the defrost 5.0 apps addon, you could try flashing that zip, or i think taking the apk out and installing it with the file manager or astro would work too

5.0 998 svs running for 26 hours sofar, no problems :)
[Desire Android Development] claspath:
it works! thanks richard!
[Desire Android Development] tyyau:
Thanks.... found it...
[Desire Android Development] Latty:
Has anybody noticed a difference with the custom light sensor settings since 5.0? I noticed it's a lot worse at low light...always only just detects a raw of 10 lux in medium to low light
[Desire Android Development] Dramiro:
DeFroST_5.0a_havs_1113Mhz.zip No problem's very stable and I can overclock my Desire :-) (I'm very Happy)
[Desire Android Development] Dramiro:
http://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod...detail?id=2298 It is very interesting
[Desire Android Development] jcookeman:
Awesome

Just stopped by to say I rooted my Desire a couple months ago (something like that) and have been following DeFrost ever since. I haven't tried any other ROMs, but why should I? Awesome work. Will definitely Paypal some dosh for your efforts.
[Desire Android Development] buzmay:
DeFroST 5.0a havs 1113Mhz quite stable I would say, having it since yesterday night no BSOD, and my battery life is just greater than ever. Will report if something goes bad but I dont think so since when I have got BSOD is usually in the first 5 hours after flashing.

Great work really
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
You don't need themes really. Setting, cyanogen settings, user interface, notification colours, custom status bar and pulldown colours
[Desire Android Development] asmaridis:
I'm still having drastic battery drainage.. No difference between SVS/HAVS for me.. I can't even turn on my wifi or I would be losing roughly 1% per minute which is horrible.

Any suggestions?
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
Sorry to sound like a broken record but did you calibrate your battery and wipe battery stats*

Were you on defrost previously?
[Desire Android Development] asmaridis:
The recalibration process would be the charging/plugging/unplugging cycles followed by wiping battery stats is it not? If so, then yes I've done that.

I have been on defrost since v4.4.. battery life has never been extraordinary but the current drainage with 5.0 is abnormal.
[Desire Android Development] Dramiro:
Como me jode tener que explicar esto en ingles, my english is a big, big crap.

Alway we are speaking about how the Developers has to do with the apk's, now propose to do a list with the apks, we delete to install from the Market o delete because don't use. I hope help to the developers ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zEQhhaJsU4 ) x'D

I Delete:

com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup-2.apk <---- Install from Market for move to SD

DSPManager.apk <----- I don't Know what it's, what it does? :confused:

Email.apk <----- I use GMail

FileManager.apk <---- I buyed Explorer Root

GenieWidget.apk <---- I don't use

GoogleQuickSearchBox.apk <---- I don't use

googlevoice.apk <------ I don't talk with machines :D

Launcher2.apk <---- Change to LauncherPro

PicoTts.apk <---- I don't use

Protips.apk <---- I don't use

SoundRecorder.apk <------ I don't talk with machines :D

Stk.apk <---- I only have one phone operator

Street.apk<----- Install from Market

Talk.apk <---- I don't use or install from market

TtsService.apk <------ I don't talk with machines :D

soundback.apk

kickback.apk

talkback.apk

VoiceSearch.apk <------ I don't talk with machines :D

VpnServices.apk <----- I don't use VPN

YouTube.apk <---- I don't use

I install from Market to move to SD:

Maps

Street View

Set Cpu

CallMeterNG

Root Explorer

Flash Player

Wheather and Toggle

Droid Wall

Cache Cleaner

QuadrantStandrad

AdobeReader

AppBrain

Barcode Scanner

Gtasks

SyncMyPix

Wifi Analyzer

XDA

Paypal

I propose

Cifs Manager

I hope help to Developpers with my list

Thx

Dramiro
[Desire Android Development] Laridia:
What radio are you using? That can have a big impact on battery life.
[Desire Android Development] asmaridis:
The latest: 5.11.05.14
[Desire Android Development] Marsbar:
Don't believe that would make as much difference as he described.

To OP: did you use titanium to restore system settings from your previous ROM? That does seem to cause people all sorts of problems, high battery drain being one of them.
[Desire Android Development] asmaridis:
Yes I have. How else can I restore my apps and data? I think Titanium Backup is indispensable.
[Desire Android Development] TheNose:
App restore via the market in FroYo. I think Titanium backup is useless since you see it break all sorts of things when people upgrade.
[Desire Android Development] Marsbar:
Apps fine; app data fine. Unfortunately restoring system settings does seem to cause problems.

Other people on this thread suggest trying restoring sections of system settings at a time after a full wipe. I just got a couple of free apps from the market for SMS and call history backup, which was all I wanted and which TB didn't seem to do anyway.
[Desire Android Development] asmaridis:
I never restore system settings using TB.
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
Can't.you nandroid back to 4.4 and flash 5 without a wipe?
[Desire Android Development] Marsbar:
Oh ok. One more thought then I give up ( :-) ): do you use adblock hosts file from defrost setup? I found it created problems where some apps expecting Google analytics would keep retrying over and over.
[Desire Android Development] asmaridis:
I don't always create nandroid backups so I'm not really sure when I created my last one. In any case, battery life has always been bad ever since I switched from Leedroid to DeFrost. It used to serve me for 2 full days with moderate usage back when I was on Leedroid.

Also, I performed a full wipe before installing 5.0. That presumably should be even safer then going back to my 4.4 and upgrade without wiping.

Nope, did not download that.
[Desire Android Development] redlabour:
Would switch to DeFrost from LeeDroid immeadiately if FM-Radio was implemented. What should i do with a ROM dont using the whole Hardware i payed for. :(
[Desire Android Development] big_forest:
Updated too fast, each upgrade will need to re-configure and import the phone book, what a good way to re-install, fast recover?
[Desire Android Development] redlabour:
Titanium Backup
[Desire Android Development] Abaregi:
Can someone confirm this?

I can't seem to find any "widescreen mode" with the camera atleast nothing that seems to be like the sense camera. Can only choose Mpix - nothing about the aspect ratio.
[Desire Android Development] slickyboy:
You can choose the Mpix and Widescreen. Its in the first Menu. Tip the round button and scroll down.

Sorry for the bad english;)
[Desire Android Development] Bart1981:
But what are you backupping then in Titanium Backup. What do you select? Because I've tried it a couple of times, but after restoring a backup, lots of programs are not working anymore, and I needed to manually delete them and then install and reconfigure them again.
[Desire Android Development] Abaregi:
ah ****, i'm so stupid, I didn't realize I could scroll down in the popout menu...

Thanks alot for the help.
[Desire Android Development] Tutti-frutti:
I'm gonna try this rom again. But I still have a question which I cannot find the answer on after searching multiple threads.

Can someone confirm/deny this:

If I want a better battery life by undervolting the CPU, using HAVS kernel, I need to run SetCPU set on "ondemand". Without SetCPU, the CPU will run 998MHz (continuously) at 1250mv, without undervolting.

Is this true?
[Desire Android Development] zapper328:
Any one using the 'quiet night' setting?

I've been trying but don't seem to work...

I can set the times but still get the vibration and ringing with it activated.

Pls help

Btw great work richard been on 5.0a hav since out not a single issue
[Desire Android Development] Caelte:
I flashed DeFrost today on my Desire. First everything went well, but now I can't download anything from android market. A download bar appears but nothing happens. Anyone knows how to solve the problem?
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
No, the kernel is undervolted so will run at 998 undervolted regardless.

Set CPU will add more savings by using the on demand governer and underclocking further lowering voltage
[Desire Android Development] Horoscope:
FM radio is missing in this ROM.. how do i install it ?

pls help
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
What Rom did you come from? Did you wipe? Did you restore anything?

Try clearing the market cache on manage applications