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[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bachviet:
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[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] uansari1:
Thanks guys... one last question. Do you guys get internet access with the internet2.voicestream.com apn?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bachviet:
Yes sir

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[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] uansari1:
Thanks... I need to get my gf to sign up for the $10 web plan if it's still available. She's getting nothing... no internet, and no MMS, which is what she really wants to work.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] willverduzco:
Has anyone had any problem using a lot of data while on this plan? Will they notice?

I noticed that in the Manage Account Usage page under Recent Usage, with only 244.6/Unlimited minutes, the little bar below it is about 1/4 of the way filled. Is that normal or does that mean that we have a 1 GB softcap now?

The price makes it worth my while to go easy on the data, but I'd still rather watch an episode on hulu every day, if possible. :)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bpm2000:
arg nm it just started working lol.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tigersgt:
Anyone here has the Even More Unlimited Web Plan ($10) working here?

I am wondering if it is the same as web2go
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] f00dstamps:
I am on an Even More Plus plan and it works.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tigersgt:
Confirmed Even More Plan Unlimited Web Plan works great.

I think it's faster than Tzone.
[HD2 General] africangrey:
Can anyone help, i`m after a AP board for the HTC HD2

THANKS
[HD2 General] WebEyE:
Same here. You found anything..?

I broke mine, changing the lcd.
[HD2 General] WebEyE:
If anyone still cares, now they're available on ebay (HD2 Flex Cable Key Board):

http://cgi.ebay.at/Flex-Cable-Keybo...ewItem&pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item41512b2d86
[EVO 4G General] brettlzz:
hey,i am interested if the evo 4g will be coming to gsm....? or if i could use the phone in australia if bought in the US??...i have searched for the answer but cant find anywhere..thanks :p:confused:
[EVO 4G General] SilverStone641:
not that I've heard. your best bet is the HD2(which is GSM i believe)
[EVO 4G General] brettlzz:
hd2 doesnt even compare with the 4g..completely outdated in only a matter of months...
[EVO 4G General] MeeMk:
HD2 simply needs a better OS. The Desire would be your best alternative at the moment because it's available in Australia. The Evo probably won't be coming for a while until either a) we get a 4G network up and running soon here, or b) HTC pushes out a GSM version, which has not been officially announced yet.
[EVO 4G General] bcpk:
Best alternative is probably the Dell Mini 5 / Streak.
[EVO 4G General] Sporkman:
Good luck with that

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[EVO 4G General] isaacwaller:
The HTC representatives at Google I/O told me that no GSM model of the EVO 4G would be released.
[Desire General] potter1984:
Also please Sticky this to reach more members with problems, Thanks.

EDIT: For those who have no idear what a brick is, Get your phone smash it with a hammer untill its dead!, < You offically now have a brick, Bricked= never going to work again

Afiorillo over at Modaco, is collecting info for all Bricked and Non-Bricked devices.

Please help by sending in your too..

Copy and Paste start.....

OK folks, the so-called "USB brick" issue had reached such a level of concern for both affected and unaffected users that every effort we can spend in order to sort it is worth it.

So, I'm going to start a comprehensive data gathering from all Desire users out there ("bricked" and not "bricked") in order to build a database big enough to be used for some statistical find-outs; the resulting data will be shared with Paul and the folks that are trying to sort this out, obviously.

To send data in, please follow this link: http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHl2Y0kzeUx1U290MjI4a0J0QVdJRHc6MQ (thanks to Shawe)

Please, use the two-letter country code for the appropriate fields (IT, UK, NL, etc).

I ask you to not post data in this thread as it contains sensitive informations (serial numbers, etc.). Once complete, we'll discuss the best way to analyze the data. Please don't ask questions through this email address, I'll use it for data gathering purposes only.

Incomplete forms will not be added to the database.

Please feel free to suggest more questions and/or to criticize this initiative if you feel so. This is an initiative of mine, is not (yet) endorsed by Paul or the forum in any way. I'm not "bricked", I'm just trying to help the developers find out a solution for the "bricked" guys (and to make others more confident in using the recovery console).

I do hope a solution will eventually emerge before this (tedious) process comes to an end.

Thank you.

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[Desire General] donald-c:
Your link doesn't work, http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHl2Y0kzeUx1U290MjI4a0J0QVdJRHc6MQ

That should?
[Desire General] __WiZaRD__:
For us n00bs it may be a good idea to explain what "bricking" means in the OP.

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[Desire General] potter1984:
Thanks donald-c updated and working :)
[Desire General] Vlad_M:
I don't know what to do. I really like my wife's Desire, and I actually ordered one. Now I read that the new iPhone will probably be available end June, if not sooner.

I don't know which one to go for. Any (objective) suggestions?
[Desire General] potter1984:
If you have to ask then your proberly better off with a iphone :(

Everyone here will most likely say Desire, seeing as you posted in a desire specific thread........
[Desire General] Vlad_M:
I am using a 3GS at the moment, and I love it. However, the Desire is a huge jump from the HTC Hero (which my wife also has), and for the first time I see it as an alternative to the iPhone. With Froyo coming (if it comes to the Desire), I am even more interested.

A big plus is also that the Desire is available now, while no one can tell when the iPhone will be available here in SA.

This is why I am asking for opinions, as for why in this particular forum - because I believe that objective users who have used both, and are informed about what is coming for iPhone, will be able to offer best advice.
[Desire General] foxmeister:
If you love your iPhone 3GS and are happy with the level of control that Apple exerts over the platform, wait for the new iPhone and then make a decision.

Regards,

Dave
[Desire General] Vlad_M:
My iPhone is jailbroken, so not too phased with that. However I do find the features announced for Froyo very appealing.
[Desire General] potter1984:
Well i should of said before, i come from apple iphone 2g, 3g and 3gs. And i can say for myself without a shodow of a doubt, that android is a much more superior OS the apple have mad, yes the UI may not be as polished, but Android i belive is a more capable device than steve jobs will ever allow.

Plus i LOVE supporting the OPEN community. Not what apple decide i can see. ( Remembering they could remotely delete stuff of your iphone).

In my opionion only i would suggest the Android devices everytime!!

I can see their soon going to knock apple off the top spot for good. Espically after that thing they call an ipad, waste of fu*king money!!
[Desire General] hung77:
if you like singletask and homescreens with only icons, then you should definitely go for the iphone 4g

If you like a REAL OS then go for Android
[Desire General] waynefield:
I have both phones and I see positives in both. The layout of the Iphone is better to me in that it is marginally bigger and the keyboard is better, however, the software and ability to make changes to the Desire is very appealing too and you can get other keyboards.

If you ask me outright which phone, I'd have to say the Desire and the thing that sways me is the FM Radio (silly I know but I use the radio a lot). The Iphone doesn't have a radio.

Hope this helps.
[Desire General] gogol:
Objective opinion?

Wait until the new iPhone has been announced and officially released :)
[Desire General] Barff1984:
Yea, the new iphone looks good.

I reason i didn't get one is because everyone else has one and the desire turns heads a bit more, especially with the ''seeds of life'' live wallpaper. it always makes people chuckle.
[Desire General] JupiterDroid:
If you like modding your phone and you love instant updates, then i would go with N1;) I have just sold my desire and bought an N1;)

JD;)
[Desire General] firedup:
Agreed..................:)
[Desire General] shaundalglish:
Hardware-wise, the new iPhone is just a clone of the Desire with a nicer design. Nothing special, more like catching up with the competition (and being left behind immediately, by phones like the Evo, Moto Shadow, Galaxy S, Dell Thunder etc...).

Software-wise, Android is much better than iPhone OS. Since we know already that iPhone OS 4 will not even come close to Android 2.1/2.2, I think it's safe to get a Desire now.

Or you wait for another great Android phone that's coming out in June/July. Waiting yes, but for new Android phones rather than that iPhone.
[Desire General] dgattenb:
Wait for the Evo , when it goes on gen release , Bar a few bits in the US ... My Desire ( orange UK ) is fab until then ...
[Desire General] Stafflover:
How can a phone that's around for about 4 years and hasn't changed much in design and always has different hardware compared to others be a clone?

May I remind you the 3gs still is superior to the desire graphic wize...

The new Iphone will have a lot more graphical power then the desire, even the samsung galaxy (wich uses a new model of the gpu the iphone uses) will fall short. Because if it doesn't steve won't make a lot of money.

Maybe new htc phones will be able to beat the new Iphone, but the Desire won't...

Talking about software I totally agree with you, android already is more mature then Iphone os will ever be. And it's the main reason I won't ever buy an Isheep
[Desire General] Necroman_AI:
Well if look at the "all package" the desire, as well as other Android phones are better that the iphone, simply because of the OS. With Desire you also get a powerfull and fast smartphone.

Sure graphics are better on the iphone for now, but when Android allow installation on sdcard and games start to use opengl we should see many improvements, since the developers will surely use the most used platforms for games i mean (directx and opengl - opengl for smartphones of course).

On the look side, the really annoying thing (to me) on the desire are the physical buttons, i prefer buttons like the wildfire or the legend. Another thing is the mono speaker which lacks some quality to me in some phone sounds and when in calls but is ok when listen to music (maybe this could be improved by htc in future updates).

You should also take in consideration that despite Android is very young it started already to make some bumps on Apple iPhones, so you could imagine what the future will bring to the Android users... ;) And HTC makes good phones and their sense really makes a difference to me, because UI is very very important! i really dislike those basic screens that the iphone have with no widgets.

Some user have refered that iphone keyboard is better, but if you use HTC_IME_MOD you will get one of the best keyboards ever on Desire! Much much better that the iphone.

It's not that i don't like iphone or Apple, but another thing to take into account are the very overpriced cost of an iphone when comparing with the competitors.

In addiction i would suggest WP7. I'm really waiting for it to be released (end of this year) because sometimes i'm really tired of having to use icons or whatever to open a program on android or the iphone. WP7 will bring a new way to interact with the programs that i liked very much (thats why i like widgets on android, i have what i want directly on the screen without having to open the program).

For now i will stick with Desire because i like Android and i use the Google services as well as Microsoft services, so i will definitely get a WP7 (perhaps from HTC again) when it gets out.

Hope this helps!

ONE LAST NOTE: Maybe Nokia will learn with their mistakes and start shipping phones with Android and WP7 - This would be very interesting and could surely break the market a lot!! ;)
[Desire General] bonerp:
Personally I hate apple and everything they do and stand for. I would back this up but don't have time.....

I hate seeing that every sound station of any worth has Iphone/Ipod adapters etc however it shows they have been much more effective at marketing than any other company at present.

For example, the chap sitting opposite me buys everything apple. He wants the iPAD just because its the latest Apple gadg. He has no need for it though. I find that laughable.

I had an iTouch and sold it. The way it forces me to use it stinks. The lack of control is frustrating. The lack of flash is just laughable.

I came from Nokia (N900) to HTC for the first time, and apart from crap AMOLED screens that are simply unuseable outside and the touch screens (not my favourite but seems to be the future sadly), I love it. Ever tried using Maps / sat nav whilst out walking.....its impossible and a joke.

I would say if HTC came up with a screen that worked in day light and had full flash (bring on 2.2) I would say the desire is near perfect for me. Apple? Appple who???
[Desire General] ferus:
I bought my wife an iPhone 3G last Christmas. At that time I was using HTC Touch Pro and as soon as I saw the big screen and tried it out I could not even look at my TP. ;-)

I bought her the iPhone because of how user friendly it is for people with little to no knowledge about phones/IT etc. She has absolutely no problem with it. Everything that she installs works as intended.

However, I myself could not use an iPhone because I need a little bit more freedom (and I don't like the fact that all iPhones look the same).

I like to experiment with new ROMs, applications and I felt that Android is much better for this purpose. So I bought a Desire.

So... if you want a phone that works out-of-the-box and you don't want to waste time with modifications and you don't mind the restrictions go for the iPhone.

If you want more "freedom" (customizations, ROMs) go for the Desire :-)

Although, I must say that Desire is also an example of a "out-of-the-box working" phone and so far I had no urge to swap ROMs...

Seeing that you are willing to wait until June for the new iPhone why not do so and see what HTC will prepare by then? Then you will have either the latest iPhone or the latest Android phone (perhaps with Froyo).

You lose nothing, you still have your 3GS (which I think is still a superb machine).
[Desire General] RaptorRVL:
Well, a bit late but perhaps this might help:

Choose the one you feel best with. The one that makes you happy. The one that satisfies your needs.

As for OS quality or apps or functionality, I don't think you can go wrong with either one.

So, same as others. Why not wait for the new iPhone and then see what's available then. At least if that is the reason you are in doubt. Because otherwise you can do the waiting game for years without ever buying a phone :D
[Desire General] stu83:
Unless the new iPhone gives you more felxibility then definitely the Desire.
[Desire General] bleary:
Definately wait for the new iPhone.

I have grown up using all forms of HTC phones with Windows Mobile and they always fell short of what I really wanted (usability) - android looked very promising, but after trying it out on the desire since using every one of the 3 iPhone model's it does not even come close.

Android is "nice" and has some nice features, but iPhone OS beats it hands-down when it comes to usability and sheer eye candy.

Everything I use on this new desire is 2nd best to the iPhone version (sky news, engaged, twitter, facebook, games etc..).

Having said that, if you have never used an iPhone you will love android cos it does offer a lot. Just not a patch on the iPhone OS im afraid.

Mind you, one thing i LOVE about Android is the notifications, sliding down from the top of the screen to see all notifications is great, streets ahead of what is in iPhone OS for sure.

Overall though - iPhone all day for me. I shall be selling the desire and jumping back onto the iPhone wagon as soon as the new one is available.

PS. When people say you cant do anything with iPhone OS such as customise it etc. you can, just jailbreak it. Dont say you dont have to do similar on Android as everyone is always chomping at the bit waiting for devices to be rooted to customise them ;)
[Desire General] foxmeister:
Sorry - but that is just plain wrong.

Whilst you need to root Android to achieve certain things (WiFi Tether and Apps2SD come to mind), the vast majority of users will never need to do this (as indeed most iPhone users will never jailbreak). In addition, once Froyo is mainstream, many of the reasons to root simply go away anyway.

The big, big, difference is that you can install any app you wish on an unrooted Android phone, whereas you have to jailbreak an iPhone to install anything that doesn't wash with Apple sanitized view of the world.

Make no mistake - the main reason that Android phones don't come pre-rooted is to make them easier and cheaper to support, since without root access you really can't fubar your own phone, whereas in the case of the iPhone it is all about control.

Regards,

Dave
[Desire General] bleary:
Ok, granted you dont need to root in order to load your own apps, whereas you do need to jailbreak an iPhone to do that. However, anyone who wants to really customise things will root the device, surely? To load custom ROM's etc...the same goes for iPhone users they need to jailbreak so they can really start to hack things about.

You do get a lot more options without rooting android I agree with that, but at the end of the day anyone wanting to really get the most out of the device will root/jailbreak it.

Out of the box, android is a lot more customisable though for sure.
[Desire General] foxmeister:
Yes this is true, but unlike the iPhone, there is a specific device that allows you do to this officially, the Nexus One, and it is likely just the first in a long line of devices aimed more at the developer/enthusiast than the consumer.

What really needs to happen is for someone like HTC to manufacture a device that has absolutely rock solid IPL/SPLs that make it absolutely impossible to completely brick your device (assuming the hardware is 100%), so that you can always recover your phone via an RUU.

If they could do this, there would be no need to lock down the phones so much, since you'd always be able to instruct a user to completely reinstall as you would do say a Windows PC.

Regards,

Dave
[Desire General] bleary:
I guess that is correct, yep.

They (HTC and such) are always gonna make it hard if they dont fully trust what they have produced to be able to withstand the hacking/modding.

For me though, mainly it is about usability and I just cannot get used to Android for usability compared to iPhone OS. I think Apple have nailed it with this creation and it will take something to knock it off its pirch. If anyone is going to do it though it will be Google so I can see an interesting few years ahead in the mobile os wars.

Some of my mates go on saying I would buy anything Apple and im biased, not true. As I keep telling them if there was something came out today that blew iPhone OS out of the water I would have no problem making the switch.

Even when the new iPhone and iPhone OS 4 ship, no doubt I will still end up selling it and trying something else as new things arrive. I went through 3 iPhone 3GS' as I kept selling and trying new devices, HTC HD2, HTC Desire etc..

Bring on the competition and keep it all interesting, good for the public ;)
[Desire General] samac92:
Definitely choose based on your own needs, I would personally wait to see what the iPhone offers. A few weeks is a short wait when your going to be in a contract for two years.

I think the biggest thing that's wrong with the Desire is the keyboard, I could fly through emails on my iPod touch no problem without any mistakes. Using the Desire keyboard is incredibly frustrating for me.

I'm not the only one who thinks this, engadget had an interview with someone who works on android and the first question they asked was whether the keyboard was going to be improved. The android guy admitted the keyboard needed work but said it was hard to make a great one as they have to support so many different types and sizes of devices.

So try out the keyboard on the Desire for a while.

Also I would recommend the N1 over the Desire as others have said here.
[Desire General] gogol:
Even you jailbroken your iPhone, you still cant have full customization like Android, WIDGET.

And of course, Flash, if you dont want "broken" web browsing experience.

And still a lot more ... SD card access, just an example.
[Desire General] hung77:
excuse me?

customization on the Iphone? Can you tell me what kind of customizations?

arrange icons or what?

the only thing what i can see on iphone is icons icons and nothing more and i dont call that customization. every Iphone looks exact the same.

Every Android phone looks different, because users can do alot of customizations.
[Desire General] Anthony2oo5:
Iv always had an HTC phone. Ignito, Diamond and now Desire. Compared to windows mobile 6, android is amazingly smooth and more stable. Every 18 months I toss up between WM and an iPhone, but I ahte the fact that the iPhone is so restricted in what i am "Allowed" to do. Its my phone, who has the right to restrict what I can do.

I was going to wait for the iPhone 4g this time, in fact I did wait, 3 months. I recently went for the Desire instead and made up I did. Whenever I look at my GFs iPhone, it just looks so boring and plain. Even the new iPhone 4.0 software looks boring.

Go for Android, even if its not the Desire.
[Desire General] Vlad_M:
Thought I would update this thread - I decided not to cancel my order for the Desire. I really like the phone, and when the iPhone comes, if it's worth it, I will sell the Desire and get it.

Now, when the hell is Froyo being released for the Desire??? :D:D
[Desire General] -A-P-M-:
I did the same. I bought Desire one month ago and it is great phone, I like it more than iPhone 3GS. I don't regred decision. But if new iPhone will interest me, I can still sell Desire and buy iPhone. But I really like Android, new update (Froyo) will bring the only thing which I miss - option to install apps on SD. Everything else is great. So probably I will keep Desire until next Google phone is available ("Nexus Two? " :) ).
[Desire General] hot-fuzz:
I echo above. If the iPhone is cracking i think there may be a few Desires for sale, which is a shame as its a great great phone.

I miss TomTom and the ability to easily download and play podcasts too much.
[Desire General] foxmeister:
That's just the way of the world though - most of my phones are replaced between 8 and 10 months, I expect no difference with the Desire.

However, I can be reasonably certain that my next phone wont be an iPhone - not because there will be anything wrong with the phone, but because I don't like the way Apple controls the platform.

Regards,

Dave
[Desire General] blunatic:
and now we have a choice with android :D Thats the fact !
[Desire General] cez10:
also instead of desire check out evo 4g if ur somewhere in usa ;)
[Desire General] boge:
I am watching the streaming of WWDC2010... and finally, I think I'll sell my Desire to get iPhone 4...

for the sake of the FaceTime... iPhone 4 to iPhone 4 can do video call on wifi for free... which Desire won't be able to do....
[Desire General] Cynabal:
Asking that question here is like asking should I buy a 458 italia or a 911 GT3 RS in a Porsche forum, lol. your results might be a little bias.
[Desire General] djjef85:
just get both :cool:
[Desire General] james1089:
Or get the HD2