yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Desire Android Development] The Asgard:
Well there is definately a high drain with the later kernels. It may be Radio related I'm on the recommended.

23.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27

Richard is right to revert back to a good working kernel.

Looks like some kernel changes are for other phones which might be casuing issues with the desire.

Good call.
[Desire Android Development] Theliels:
Tested

Defrost dont work with Desire Pvt4 devices, for now only Leedroid + amon ra work fine

Flash procedure are OK, but desire stuck on nexus one animation logo
[Desire Android Development] richardtrip:
Yes it has :-( lost 35% in about 4 hours today. 6.0c is the most stable kernel atm, but of course the drain will be fixed in newer versions. Just needed a quick fix for everyone.
[Desire Android Development] Marsbar:
You've missed "downloading and flashing the new kernel" :) ... GPS is set on-demand too, and the weather app will update every hour, I think.

The reason I made a point of saying I hadn't seen anything like it since 2.4d is because one person's "normal" is completely different to someone else's. It's down to usage, to signal strength, to the amount you travel, the amount of email you get etc etc.

By now my battery would normally be around the 50% mark.

I say "normally": 2.4d used to give me stupid battery life; I mean, really, I'd have 2 day's "real" use no problem.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=7380636&postcount=7543

I miss those days :(

But anyway, my point is, since about 2.7 (ish) battery life has been comparatively rubbish. Kernels 6.0d-l are no worse or better for me than any other has been.
[Desire Android Development] rPAD:
extract the hosts file and plant it into the next defrost (or current) rom, then flash the rom.
[Desire Android Development] hajen78:
When does it come to Defrost setup
[Desire Android Development] broderbluff:
when it's uploaded

he's uploading it right now about 50% completed
[Desire Android Development] hajen78:
Cool. Just love this rom ;)
[Desire Android Development] zigson:
Richard, your link on the front page still says 6.0i, although it points towards version j.

Cheers.

Edit - you're still uploading then. Ignore me.
[Desire Android Development] richardtrip:
Update:

Version 6.0j:

*Revert base kernel to 6.0c (most stable, no battery drain)

*CyanogenMod fixes:

-Lockscreen gestures:

User can now define unlock and sound toggle gestures.

Lockscreen tabs can now be fully disabled, but ONLY if there is

some other method of unlocking the device enabled. This includes:

Trackball unlock, menu key unlock, and gesture unlock.

Changed default gesture sensitivity to 3

Allow the user to specify which application to launch using the lockscreen messaging slider.

-camera: Set touch-focus mode correctly

-Translations
[Desire Android Development] fabioccoelho:
Nice :D Downloading now ;)

Thanks :P
[Desire Android Development] Pajorve:
Hello Fabio...how are you ?

I am From Brazil, friend !

Guy Richard, great work!

I have had a little problem when I apply the update, do the Flash normally but never seem to go to splash screen ... gets stuck in Bootanimation ... so I need to remove the battery wait about 5 minutes and then rebind the apparatus for him back in full swing ...

What may be happening?

I've been doing updates without clear nothing just playing on top of one another and this is the second update after that have this problem!

Thank you very much!
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
falar Inglês ;)
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
Can anyone confirm they have flashed successfully 6.0j from defrost setup please?

I made some modifications and got a boot loop. Just wanted to ensure firstly it is not the rom.
[Desire Android Development] hajen78:
Dancing droid Doted battery g4 color
[Desire Android Development] patrikbrann:
Just flashed it from defrost setup and its running fine! :)

//Patrik
[Desire Android Development] fabioccoelho:
Hi guy! I don´t have any problem with this update version. All works fine for me :P

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[Desire Android Development] fabioccoelho:
Hi :)

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[Desire Android Development] spud_work:
Anyone else unable to get the flash to work in the camera application? It works fine when shooting a video, but not for taking pictures
[Desire Android Development] Ven84:
Sorry for that noob question but i have problems to set up E-Mail with Exchange.

I can´t use manually settings or just enter email and password.

Why?

THX
[Desire Android Development] ThamesBoss:
Can someone please give me a flashable hosts file .zip?

I tried to integrate it in the actual release, but installing failed.
[Desire Android Development] iinga:
http://www.iinga.net/desire/?dir=&download=data+hosts-signed.zip
[Desire Android Development] nitrox1:
Ah it's good to be back.

@Danfrance, what have I missed? Whats the big scope? where's all the d,e,f, etc kernels??? Was the battery drain that bad? Have been playing on a nexus, after bricking my desire, but thank you HTC warrenty I have it back ;-) Got to love them. But have given them enough of my money too.

Flashed from defrost setup, flashed j over i, and all good, camera flash works good. and 875mV BFS kernel
[Desire Android Development] nikosrs4:
when you open email, it asks you for the email and password, you enter them and then you can click manual setup.

try again.
[Desire Android Development] macacao:
Can anyone tell me the difference between those three kernels?

6.0c_havs_1113Mhz @875

6.0c_havs_1113Mhz @875_bfs

6.0c_havs_1113Mhz @875_cfs
[Desire Android Development] nitrox1:
The BFS and CFS stand for CFS (Completely Fair Scheduling) and BFS (Brain F*ck Scheduling), The other one might be the SVS, rather than HAVS.

"BFS:

BFS is the Brain F*ck Scheduler. It was designed to be forward looking only,

make the most of lower spec machines, and not scale to massive hardware. ie

it is a desktop orientated scheduler, with extremely low latencies for

excellent interactivity by design rather than "calculated", with rigid

fairness, nice priority distribution and extreme scalability within normal

load levels.

http://ck.kolivas.org/patches/bfs/bfs-faq.txt

CFS

Completely Fair Scheduler is the name of a task scheduler which was merged into the 2.6.23 release of the Linux kernel. It handles CPU resource allocation for executing processes, and aims to maximize overall CPU utilization while maximizing interactive performance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Completely_Fair_Scheduler

Comparison of BFS vs CFS: http://www.cs.unm.edu/~eschulte/data...el-schulte.pdf

Conclusion

The results indicate that CFS outperformed BFS with minimizing turnaround time but that BFS

outperformed CFS for minimizing latency. This indicates that BFS is better for interactive tasks

that block on I/O or user input and that CFS is better for batch processing that is CPU bound."

Also has @richardtrip tried to implement the new "Kernel scheduler improvements" for CFS kernels in to his new ones?

Info can be found here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=841599
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
One is standard, one has bfs scheduling and one has cfs scheduling. Try all and find which you like

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[Desire Android Development] macacao:
The first one is the most "smooth" until now ;)
[Desire Android Development] milkpowder:
I'm impressed with the measured performance of test setup. j ROM, c kernel (SVS, BFS), underclocked to 245-800 smartass and I still get 1500s in Quadrant. Very responsive device. Just flashed so no idea about battery life. Will try the HAVS BFS undervolted kernels.
[Desire Android Development] 0semaj0:
cant wait to try =P looking good...the new ROM
[Desire Android Development] milkpowder:
Battery life wasn't actually an issue for me with the kernels, but then again I'm not on my phone all the time and charge daily in the evening with about 30% left in the tank. As long as I can get an hour of HSPA web, a couple dozen texts and 15m calls over the course of a working day then I'm happy.
[Desire Android Development] crapula512:
There r just 2 kernels, bfs or cfs. I dont know what flavour is the first one but for sure is one of those 2.
[Desire Android Development] nitrox1:
Still fast on the reply I see..........

Thanks milkpowder
[Desire Android Development] hajen78:
I would like to know wich kernel Richard prefer ?. I just can´t find out wich kernel is the best, i think there is a little lag in both, but i am not complaining because it is still the best kernel/rom there is ;)

I would love too here from others in here wich the prefer too use and why ? And also wich govenor you use.

Ps. I have tried them all myself, i just cant find out wich is the best ;)

Right now i am on SVS 1190 CFS and it uses between 3-7mV in idle

keep up the good work :)
[Desire Android Development] crapula512:
Its not that hard, havs has better battrry life than svs and no impact in performance, so choose the low voltage havs if your phone can handle it. (Here im not taking into account that richards svs can go to 1190 while he limits havs to 1113. Not sure why he does it)

Bfs or cfs? Bfs is better for a phone (1cpu, few proccess), so use it if it fits ur needs.

In the governor department, performance is the fastest but will hit hard on the batts as the cpu wont scale. The real options here are smartass or imteractive, im using smartass (it scales in rt) and seems a little faster but interactive is a safe bet and can be just as good.
[Desire Android Development] chris2busy:
hey mate...already well read on those..but greatly interested in this pdf of yours...sadly i get a 404 when i try to open it...any chance you got it saved soemwhere?
[Desire Android Development] BlackDragonBE:
http://www.cs.unm.edu/~eschulte/data/bfs-v-cfs_groves-knockel-schulte.pdf
[Desire Android Development] dkm111:
Is it possible to import HTC hub into defrost? or is that really sense related?

thx for your work

dkm
[Desire Android Development] The Asgard:
Battery life update. 10pm - 6am

Later kernel revisions the battery over night discharged down to 55%

back to the c kernel and the battery discharged to 98%. 2% use over night, result.
[Desire Android Development] cezarL:
Which c kernel was that? standard/bfs/cfs - havs/svs

I'm getting acceptable performance from the havs bfs L kernel (1%/hour drain with wifi and gmail/email push on), but there was one kernel that drained about 0.33%/hour, I just can't remember which one :(
[Desire Android Development] Bucci:
that's good question... which of "C" kernels is most saving???

actually installed havs 875 cfs and drain was about 12% overnight...
[Desire Android Development] cezarL:
Just tested the standard 6.0c havs@875 with CurrentWidget. Got 8mA drain in standby, whereas with 6.0l havs bfs@875 I got 6mA :)

Trying out 6.0c havs bfs now...
[Desire Android Development] kecinzer:
Bucci:

With 2.6.32.15-leedroid_2.2f-chgrmod2 Smartass 245-1190MHz I have drop 2% over night.

Any questions? :)
[Desire Android Development] cezarL:
Yeah... what did you have running in background? Or was the phone in airplane mode? :D

EDIT- wait, that's a Sense kernel. those ROMs have better battery management anyway (too bad they got Sense :p )
[Desire Android Development] kecinzer:
Yes, I running LeeDroid :).

Have you someone tried new h version? I'm interested about new lock screen unlocking methods, but I can't try it now.

Can someone post pictures or videos here?
[Desire Android Development] azz_kikr:
I have a question since everybody is talking about batt drain. How much mA do you have when doing nothing on the phone but just leve screen on? I lose about 1% a minute white just browsing on wifi B-)
[Desire Android Development] mattmanwrx:
Dan, did u get this working...? I took some apps out and placed some.in. like I do in all other roms, but got a message stating that im missing system setup wizard, even though I didn't remove it, and got boot loop. This was download from first page post, and I will try to update from df setup...

Anyone else having problems?

sent from my DeFroSTed HTC Desire
[Desire Android Development] Sisqo:
i'm using defrost 6.0i, but also in the previous versions i encountered this: if i install a widget on sdcard or move it to sdcard and then restart the phone, the widget dissapears from the screen and it's also missing from the widget list, anybody encountered this?
[Desire Android Development] The Asgard:
HAVS BFS, now at nearly 11AM with light use and showing 94% left. Amazing.
[Desire Android Development] The Asgard:
Download Power Tutor from the market. It will give you all the information you need.
[Desire Android Development] mbroeders:
Widgets shouldn't be moved to SD...
[Desire Android Development] Epedemic:
I think i can agree on this! The screen usage looks scary at first... But it seems to be because the rest of the system is simply much more efficient now.
[Desire Android Development] loguek:
I'm on day 3, battery is currently at ~35%. Using stock I could only get under 2 days from a full charge(I have't changed my usage pattern). The only problem I've run into is the LED remaining on and also the echo on the other end of calls but apart from that this has proven to be a great rom.
[Desire Android Development] :
Are you overclocking? What processor frequency are you using?

JD
[Desire Android Development] tha-mask:
spoke too soon, still issue with wifi on 7.0b not getting emails whilst the phone is in sleep mode, you have to wake it up...Not a deal breaker but a bit of a pain if you forget to check.
[Desire Android Development] loguek:
Min 128MHz Max 998MHz
[Desire Android Development] viper_campbell:
Why dont you setup WiFi to turn off when the screen is off/sleep mode... then it will use 3g/GPRS, and then when you turn your screen back on WiFi kicks in again :)
[Desire Android Development] Thomashamka:
NEWBIE

So, im new to rooting and stuff so can any1 help me to put this froyo to my DESIRE?

Do i need to root? IF i do have to, how?

GUIDE how to put this froyo to my phone?

THX, i dont care if i brick so no worries. Just bored.
[Desire Android Development] nbedford:
How do you set WiFi to turn off when the screen is off?
[Desire Android Development] jj_glos:
I get the display use reported very high as well (70% next highest is Cell standby at 9%). Biggest pain for me though is the Wireless dropping even when it's set not to when the screen is off. When the phone is active again it doesn't connect automatically, the wireless APN is set to disabled and I have to manually connect. Overall the battery life is worse than standard 2.1, I struggle to get a day now with below average use.

Is there anyway to get rid of the zoom buttons in the web browser? They get right in the way! I tried Dolphin HD but it crashes a lot, I'll have a look at Opera I suppose.
[Desire Android Development] viper_campbell:
Settings -> Wireless & Networks -> Wi-Fi Settings -> Press Menu button -> Advanced -> Wi-Fi Sleep Policy
[Desire Android Development] GeoTrail:
Yeah that worked. And all the Nexus One torches I tried works also. Weird.
[Desire Android Development] tha-mask:
Doesnt make a difference. Policy was already set to turn off wifi when asleep, tried the never option either. If I send an email when its asleep the phone doesnt pick it up until I wake it up from sleep.
[Desire Android Development] wuthton:
I'm afraid I think you are wrong, set screen timeout for 30 mins and plug into a HTC mains charger. I have found my battery still discharges.

I rarely feel the need to post on here but this is the only gremlin for me in this otherwise excellent Rom.
[Desire Android Development] rolfd:
Read THIS .........
[Desire Android Development] viper_campbell:
What radio version are you using are you using?! and which Rom version?!
[Desire Android Development] tha-mask:
Using 32.37.0032U_4.06.00.16_2

Rom 7.0d, kernel 2.6.32.0-bravo-froyo-r15
[Desire Android Development] viper_campbell:
You may find that the radio Rom may be causing a few issues, i noticed on the Radio thread people seem to be changing back to older radios from that one... Worth a try?!

Radio wise im using the original 32.30.00.28U_4.05.00.11 still and Rom im using 0.7 with kernel 2.6.32.9... ( i do also have a little Wi-Fi problem, when coming out of sleep mode it doesn't alway re-connect, comes up with disabled next to my router in settings, but just hit connect any it works fine)
[Desire Android Development] djide:
The search is one of the most powerful tools on the forum.....try using it
[Desire Android Development] tha-mask:
It was very good on the 2.1 Modaco custom rom I ran before, good bettery life and no other issues, so Im inclined to think that its the 7.0d variant. Though thanks for the heads up on the radio thread.
[Desire Android Development] e-mperor:
I got the 7.0d running,

if I started setcpu and accidentially clicked no root, how can I set it to have root acces?

thanks
[Desire Android Development] cezarL:
Thanks!

Yup, looks like HAVS BFS has slightly lower consumption in sleep mode (I'm getting 4/5/6mA), but it's quite possible the drain is also lower when the phone is used, as well.

I guess I'll stick to 6.0c@875 HAVS BFS for now :)
[Desire Android Development] mbroeders:
Can anyone tell me how to enable long-press back to kill an app? I can't seem to find it anymore. Or is the option removed from settings? Thanks.
[Desire Android Development] dubart:
Settings/Applications/Development/Stop app via long press

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire Android Development] mbroeders:
Thanks for the quick reply!
[Desire Android Development] z0mbi3:
Weighted scrolling still not working on Launcher Pro's default app drawer (not the 3d experimental one).
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
What is weighted? Is It that It will scroll.back.to top slowly?

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[Desire Android Development] ThamesBoss:
Is there already a working version of Blufrost for Defrost 6.0j?
[Desire Android Development] Kev23:
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but how are you measuring the power consumption please? i.e that mA figure

Thanks
[Desire Android Development] azz_kikr:
currentwidget shows the mA
[Desire Android Development] Kev23:
Briliant, thanks for that.
[Desire Android Development] Rickbob:
Will this Rom work on the HTC Hero? anyone done it?

also

With data2sd i understand it considerably increases I/O speed, now even though it claims not to have an effect on battery, with the increase in speed could we not underclock the processor to a level that would save us a lot of battery?

As always thaks Richard for a super rom.
[Desire Android Development] mattmanwrx:
I believe it has just been released...

WWW.iinga.net/desire/themes

I'm about to download now...

sent from my DeFroSTed HTC Desire
[Desire Android Development] iinga:
Lol yes, it has been released (i uploaded it earlier)

Blufrost/Gefrost for 6.0j at http://www.iinga.net/desire/themes

Screenshots for those interested in a new theme: http://www.iinga.net/desire/themes/bf_ss.html

As change log says on the site, i have re-added the themed contacts and phone apks. This is because i was fed up of seeing green on my phone...didn't match the blue
[Desire Android Development] Uniqron:
Great ROM.

Pulled it of Villainrom yesterday and wow, today there's a new version.

Loving it so far on my 1-day old desire ;-)
[Desire Android Development] Rickbob:
Has anyone else had problems with the BluFrost theme (not exclusive but the only one i have tried) and FM radio, i love the theme but loose FM every time. iv tried all the on/off tricks to get the radio working again but nothing works?
[Desire Android Development] muhid:
I have the defrost 6.0i and for some reason I dont have the option to force WCDMA. I know I am getting a H connection because when i select preferred network T-mobile, i get H for a minute then it reverts back to 'G'. If i keep doing this i get H then back to G. I have read in numerous places that i need to try and lock it to hsdpa by selecting wcdma (which i dont have). Please help me. Does anyone know why this keeps happening. I remember when i was on defrost 6.0g, i had 'H' in my office with no problems. Now i can hardly get that to stick once i flashed the latest rom.
[Desire Android Development] MichalSykora:
How to enable device with trackball. I trying file from Leedroid rom, but not working.
[Desire Android Development] lau83:
I'm using HTC desire... does anyone know how to restore htc widget? for example stock market widget? thanks...

PS: I'm using DeFroSt 6.0j
[Desire Android Development] robbiekhan:
You cannot use HTC widgets/apps on non Sense ROMs, and even then you must use Sense launcher.
[Desire Android Development] liquidini:
You can't. It's an HTC sense widget..
[Desire Android Development] danbrown162:
how do i get rid of the Lockscreen wallpaper which has appeared since the last update :confused::confused:

(ADW launcher)
[Desire Android Development] expl0de:
Richard, is it possible to be added rotation of the home screen and menu in future updates? Everything else is rotating and it's a pity.
[Desire Android Development] FaithCry:
trackpad wake? its built in. go to settings, cyanogen settings, input settings, and tick trackball wake and/or unlock.

hope this helps :P
[Desire Android Development] ThamesBoss:
Blufrost is still version 6.0i.
[Desire Android Development] iinga:
Not sure what you mean
[Desire Android Development] ThamesBoss:
Your site says "Defrost (6.0i)" and even the downloaded file is named "blufrost-df-60i-signed.zip".
[Desire Android Development] iinga:
Can you do a clean refresh (ctrl+f5) and try again. The site i'm looking at says 6.0j
[Desire Android Development] ThamesBoss:
I had to restart my browser to get it working, but now it shows the correct file.

Thank you!!!
[Desire Android Development] MichalSykora:
To FaithCry: Thank you man, you great. Working.
[Desire Android Development] yoyoyosky:
6.0c@875 HAVS BFS - unplugged at 9.30 , after 6 h and 4 short phonecalls, some sms, wifi on (sleep mode on) = 88% battery level.

Finally I am happy.
[Desire Android Development] alessandro_xda:
is someone able to download the mods using defrost setup?

every mod ending with J is missing,

for example it looks for

http://xda.richardtrip.org/mods/framework-ZC-colored-DF60j.zip

that doesn't exist in the server...

bye

Alessandro
[Desire Android Development] dampy78:
+1

Same here
[Desire Android Development] crapula512:
no cuz it hasnt been made for the new version yet, you are seing just the entry in the list when it becomes available you will be able to donwload it.
[Desire Android Development] Latty:
I seem to have lower idle power drain with 6.0c HAVS, 925mV, BFS than with 6.0c HAVS, 925mV, CFS.

With CFS, I get fluctuations between norm (4-8mA) and in the 20mA range, whereas with BFS, it just stays in the normal range.
[Desire Android Development] wuub:
hi all

it might be a stupid question but do you include Cyanogen full updates ?

I read that they cleaned the APN and that it resolves MMS and GPS issues.

I'm running RC2 and have no issues with MMS now... can I expect it to be the same with latest defrost ?

another "stupid" question... what is main difference between Cyanogen Builds and Defrost Builds ? why choose defrost instead of official cyanogen ?
[Desire Android Development] fadh2k:
Download advance setting in market. Theres an option to select wcdma only.
[Desire Android Development] hajen78:
Am i the only one that can´t get 875mV to be stable on the phone it reboots after a little time.
[Desire Android Development] Latty:
Nope, quite a few people's phones aren't 100% stable at 875mV. Plus, the power draw difference between it and 925mV is negligible; may as well use 925mV for stability.
[Desire Android Development] Narada2XK:
The UI is a little glitchy. When you get a call, the calling tab is too far left. When you pull it, you see a grey distortion.
[Desire Android Development] BriEE:
Using 825 C kernel, still draining, something android is partial wake lock for 30mins in 2.5 hours

android system, wtf is this, I can't track it? I think it might be some syncing or locations, but this is absurd, why is the phone doing stuff when sleeping