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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kolibrik:
Hey Joe,

I just found your thread and since I could not find any other I though it would be worth trying. I just went back to Stock from NRG's Energy (did not update my info yet). Even though I loved the Cookie tabs and all the customizations available, the stability issues, low memory issues, voice command, and general unreliability really made me come back.

So now I am at Stock 6.5 T-Mobile ROM and I really do not mind some of the software you are trying to remove, even though I may change my mind. But stability is everything to me. I use my phone for business and it does pretty much everything I will ever ask from my phone, so I think I will stick with it for years to come.

I am not too picky about icons or themes, the stock one works for me pretty well. But there are some features from NRG I would love to replicate in the 2.1 Sense.

First of all the quick links on the home page. Since there is no hardware camera button, I would love to have camera button available on the home page.

Second, increase the grid in programs from 3 to five. I have my list of software I use and I would love to see them on one page. The stock way is that I always have to scroll.

Third, the tasks. I use them A LOT. I did not like the 1.8 Cookie tab, because you could not really edit and complete the tasks from within the tab control element, but I like Hulzer's Advanced Home Tab customization, except it was buggy. I could use a Task tab (if one would be ever created) or some other smart way of task implementation.

Other than that, maybe add Facebook tab and Footprint tab, or maybe a reader tab, but those would minor.

I was curious if there is more people like me who use stock ROM and maybe have some smart ways of tweaking it.

Every custom ROM has its loooong thread, but it appears that Stock ROM is not used or just not that "fancy".

Anyway, any ideas or recommendations would be appreciated.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Showtime7:
If you have a registry editor making a camera softkey is very easy. There are free ones just search, Total Commander being the most popular.

All the tabs you mentioned have not been developed for Sense 2.1 which is what this ROM uses, there are only comm manager and call history as additional tabs so far. Others would need to be developed, and all chefs are not necessarily developers.

@ Joe: I have not experienced any errors so far with the battery driver. I will report if I notice anything weird.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kolibrik:
Thanks Showtime,

I have several registry editors, but never tried to create a softkey. How do you place it on the home page?

Hmmm, comm manager and call history are the ones I would disable first. :-)

I guess I have to find for a developer to come by.

Do you use any other cool mods or customization I must have?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Showtime7:
Just the battery driver and 1% increment icon I posted on the previous page.

I just checked my home screen and by default the left soft key is camera...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kolibrik:
I see what you mean. Yeah, I have camera soft button too. I thought you are talking about adding actual icons/buttons on the home screen just like in the cookie tab.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Showtime7:
This is only possible with Sense 2.5. You could always map it to a hardware key though...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sharpstone:
message was sent with delay

Foundation 0.6 is a good rom that I have installed for a few days. it is fairly stable and battery-saving. bugs:

1) message was sent with delay

2) signal is weak? (I am not sure yet, in one of my offices where I ususally got signal with other roms, but the signal became unstable with 0.6, maybe just a incidence)

3) during booting, it stays at windows for too long, even cannot pass. when I powered off, then powered on, the screen stoped at WINDOWS. I have took out of battery. I did three times, found this is a repeated problem.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe USer:
What radio are you using? Also, did you run task29 before installing?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sharpstone:
Thanks:

radio: 4.49.25.88

It was previously installed, so I did not run task29
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe USer:
I've tested that battery driver for about a 5 days now, and I think it's stable enough, I'll include it in v0.7 by default.

As for the icon and start menu changes, I think I'm going to make that an optional install. I'm testing out a few different ways to do it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe USer:
I put a recommended procedure for flashing in the first post. Since this is a T-Mobile modified stock ROM, the best radio is the one they included.

Feel free to do it any way you want though, but I think the easiest way is to task 29, flash the TMo ROM and then flash this one.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe USer:
Version 0.7 released

Version .7 is out, the 1% battery driver was added and XDA_UC was modified with some code by kalhimeo.

As a reminder, this is a beta, flash at your own risk. Also, if you like the ROM, please feel free to donate to XDA, or some of the people who made the modules used in this ROM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Showtime7:
I will try this one soon, right now trying out DeepShining... Only suggestion I have is definitely see if using stock HTC themed Sense fixes the timezone problem.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe USer:
I noticed some issues with XDA_UC in this release, I'll have a new one shortly.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sharpstone:
good rom, testing report

Following many day's test, I found that foundation v0.7 is a great rom, run smoothly and save battery a lot. The only bug that I found is I cannot disable the report of sending text. As a consequence, sometime, the report sign is not able to be removed from the screen. It will be perfect if it can be improved in the coming version.

thanks a lot for Joe's effort.

sharp
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Showtime7:
You can disable it using schaps Advanced Config:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=418151

The setting should be under Messaging.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sharpstone:
Thanks a lot Showtime
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe USer:
1.0 RC released

After 3 weeks of testing I've compiled up version 1.0 RC.

I've had almost no issues with this version and consider it stable.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sharpstone:
you think "Radio: 4.49.25.57" best fits to Foundation 1 RC?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe USer:
Yes, I've been testing 4.49.25.57 for nearly a month with this ROM and they work well together.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sharpstone:
This is the best ROM that I ever tested. Very stable and battery-saving, the only thing left is it does not have a function of automatic configuration of network. Thanks to Joe!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe USer:
Thanks! I'm glad you like it.

What type of network configuration settings are you looking for? (It's set to T-Mobile US standard by default.)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sharpstone:
Thanks, joe,

Different country has its own network, if a rom can configure the network by select country it will be done, it will be perfect. Many other rom, like Energy's, cell pro, have this function.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe USer:
Sounds good, I'll look into adding this as an option.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe USer:
Version 1.0 Release info

If no one is having problems with the 1.0 RC, I'm going to declare it stable and start working on new features.

I'll change the version info on July 25 and it will be a 1.0 release barring any last minute problems.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] nokiadashi:
where is the download link?

http://hotfile.com/dl/54874296/9ac34ca/Foundation1.7z.html

the download link for T-Mobile 6.5 Foundation v1.0 RC has been removed,what is going on?

Isnt this rom good? are you going to upload a newer one?

:confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] nokiadashi:
Joe,has your T-Mobile 6.5 Foundation v1.0 FINAL been finished? I just saw this info,no wonder you removed the download link for 6.5 Foundation v1.0 RC.

I am waiting for your release today with my arms wide open.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe USer:
Version 1.0 is up

Version 1.0 is up. No major changes between the RC and this.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] nokiadashi:
downloading and questions

Hi Joe,thanks for updated download link for 6.5 Foundation v1.0, I am downloading now, can I ask you two questions:

1. I am not T-mobile user,is there side-effects if I flash this rom to my HTC Pro2 of Taiwan origin,my mobile network is GSM.

2. can I use Advanced Config Tool make battery life better? the feedback shows this rom has excellent battery life, I think probably you have tweaked something, my concern if we tweak it again,it will counter-productive. pls shed some light.

Cheers!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe USer:
You might need a keyboard driver for your phone, also the ROM will not automatically configure for other networks yet. (Version 1.1 possibly)

I have not tried using advanced config on this ROM yet, so give it a try and let me know.

I tried making as few changes as possible to this ROM, it's really a base foundation to build on.

Enjoy.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] nokiadashi:
Hi Joe,finally I got the time to test your 6.5 Foundation v1.0.

Several days has passed, I want to post a preliminary feedback:

This rom is fast (although not fastest),should be very stable (I need more days to observe),the remarkable thing is its battery life,very good indeed, I will not use Advanced config tool to make it more battery-saving,maybe will do it after one month,the current battery life already makes me satisfied,:)

So I listed your rom to my post "least battery drain roms so far":

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=649466

Keyboard is fine,only the second bottom button doesn’t work,it doesn’t bring out memu. But I can always click on the left top (Start) to get menu.

So I will not search for keyboard driver.

Contrary to what you said "the ROM will not automatically configure for other networks yet",it automatically found my Chinese mobile network. and I can surf internet with GPRS.

At last I recommend to disable Windows error report, If you don’t disable,it will constantly remind you the error of third party programs.

We can manually disable it by Start/Settings/System/Error Reporting/Disable and pressing OK.

But in all other roms,this is disabled by default.

Will get back if I have other opinions. Cheers! and thanks for this good rom!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Kangburra:
Does this have Facebook integration in the album and pictures section?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] nokiadashi:
6.5 Foundation v1.0 build version and Manila version?

Joe,I cannot find any build version and Manila version in your Device information.

Based on About in System, this is 21881 build,right? what about the Manila? it's M2.1 right?

pls advise
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe USer:
No. I don't think 2.1 has Facebook included.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe USer:
Full build is 21881.5.0.84 and Manila 2.1.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DJGonzo:
Post some screenshots!

I'm glad there is chefs cooking Sense 2.1 ROMs though!

If you need the Automatic Data Connection setup wizard package PM me and I'll give you the one I'm using.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Wiz21:
I want to try this rom but the link doesn't work.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jiangzm123:
Where are download from ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe USer:
Well, it looks like someone didn't like it at hotfile, so it was removed.

I guess that's it for the ROM for now, I don't have any place to host it and if MS or TMo is complaining then I don't want any trouble.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jiangzm123:
So，will you upgrade it soon?

Thanks a lot1
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] iamterence:
****, I actually wanted to try this ROM too.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] nokiadashi:
who removed this stable rom from the hotfile????

I checked the hotfile link,indeed the file has been deleted.

who did this? this is insane.

I came back again to tell you that this 6.5 Foundation v1.0 by Joe USer is goddamn stable,it's been 15 days although you would say it's still early to make any conclusion.

I still cannot find any complaint about this rom, no sometimes-freeze-in-general-operation-or-SMS-panel,no screen-of-death,no delayed-message-notification,no sometimes-one-program-automatically-closes-while-you-open-another-program,no nothing.

can someone recommend a good file host website to upload this rom?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] iris_aim:
i want this rom toooo:(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] iamterence:
Rapidshare? Sendspace? Mediafire?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe USer:
I'm sorry, If someone is filing a DMCA complaint, then I can't upload or host the file anymore.

If other people want to distribute it, I can't do anything about that.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jiangzm123:
Can you upload this to somewhere?

Thanks a lot!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stevedebi:
I don't see how it could be DMCA, all the other chefs are putting in every kind of software into their builds.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vagabond1:
I was just searching for a stable Made-For-TMobile ROM and JUST came across this one. Aside from the fact that both Bing and GMaps are gone, it looks absolutely PERFECT. Does anyone have a link? Please?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Bill Bee:
uploading now

I got a copy of the rom and will upload it for you guys.

joe if you dont mind you can check the md5
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe USer:
I doubt it's MS, HTC or TMo, I think someone is just complaining. But I don't have any way to prove that short of being sued.

The MD5 of the archive is in the first post if anyone else wants to compare as well.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Bill Bee:
Uploaded

hotfile.com/dl/61499932/9e17e9b/RELEASE.7z.html

Here you go.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vagabond1:
Thank you Bill Bee

To Joe: Thank you! And also any decent company would first issue a cease and desist. I doubt they would target your rom before any of the 'more popular' ones
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Bill Bee:
another mirror

mediafire.com/?fl69f9cvk7y6awu
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Wiz21:
Thank you for uploading this Bill Bee and congrats to joe on making a really good rom
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] iamterence:
This ROM is completely amazing. Only thing that kills it for me is... HDWalls doesn't work, and I cannot figure out how to make it work lol. But I will save this ROM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] nokiadashi:
Hi joe,today i do find a problem,the GPS software(Google map or TeleNav) cannot download data through GPRS, but I can use the web browser to surf internet no problem, is the internet connection configuration for GPS software and web browser different?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe USer:
It's possible that something is still configured for T-Mobile. There are 3 connections by default in the phone, check all of them.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe USer:
Are you getting any errors?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] iamterence:
No. HDWalls would show up on every other tab except the Home tab, and it would slow Manila down to a crawl just from the home tab.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stevedebi:
OK, I think I have the problem. I just downloaded the V1.0 ROM (thanks to those who posted the link).

The ROM you produced is digitally signed - probably from T-Mobile. Or at least the output .hbh file says "signed". This digital signature is owned by T-Mobile. I presume this means that one could actually load your ROM without hard SPL onto a T-Mobile phone.

I think that if you modify your kitchen such that it puts out an unsigned ROM you will be fine for further development.

EDIT: I don't use Sense or TF3D, and your ROM is only 10Mb smaller than the NRG Titanium ROM. Plus I like my 23xx menus. So I'm not sure I'll try your version. But I encourage you to keep on working!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] iris_aim:
thanks for upload...

jus 1 query if some1 is coming on this 1 from jackos smart move 1.3(which also runs on sense 2.1 with 6.5) how does the 2 compare in terms of speed?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] iamterence:
In my opinion, this is defintiely faster.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] iris_aim:
thanks man am definitly gonna give this a try now

just ended backingup my stuff on jackos rom...hoping to have similar experience as yours
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] nokiadashi:
what do you mean There are 3 connections by default?

can you tell more about it?

settings>connections>connections,I deleted settings for T-mobile and I added my own mobile network, but Google map still tells me internet is not available, "Error: wininetHttpError [0 12007]"

Web browser is fine,I can surf the net.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe USer:
I don't have my TP2 right now, so I can't tell you the exact settings, but look to see if there's anything in connections that says "This network uses a proxy server to connect..." and make sure it's not checked.

If it still doesn't work, then I'm at a loss, especially since the browser is working.

Is there a configuration page for your mobile network on the web?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] nokiadashi:
Joe,that's fine,it seems that many people got Error: wininetHttpError [0 12007],no one gave a solution,I rarely use GPS anyway,so I can ignore this issue.

In the Web browser,there is an option for me to choose different network,EPC.TMOBILE.COM-MOBILE etc etc,the browser automatically chose the right network (CMWAP-wap in China) when it was installed.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe USer:
I wonder if your connection is blocking ports. Do you have this problem with other ROMS?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sharpstone:
when not using sense, the "contact" is often "no response". V1.0 is not better than v1.0 RC
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] nokiadashi:
Blocking ports? how?

As far as I remember,I dont have this problem with other roms, as long as the web browser can surf internert,the google map can download datas.

I tried Cell pro series,Deepshining series,Rhodium_AF,e2 roms,AthineOS roms,Jackos Oldschool ROM v1.1,WCX rom by WildChild etc, all of them dont have this problem.

But my impression is that 6.5 Foundation v1.0 is most stable compared to all the roms I mentioned above.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe USer:
Ok, if it doesn't happen on other ROMs then it's because something is still locked into T-Mobile's network.

I'm traveling this week, but when I get back home I'll see if there's a way to let everyone change the Internet settings.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe USer:
I usually use Titanium, how many contacts do you have?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sharpstone:
I have more than 600 contacts. in v10.RC there was no such problem. To save battery maximumly, I do not use sense. Hopefully it can be changed in the next verssion
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] nokiadashi:
I dont have your problem,I am using iPhoneToday UI,very good.

I have also around 600 contacts in my phone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DiAbLoxx83:
Can't download the rom... file was removed
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] neoavi7:
Yeah, It seems the ROM has been deleted. Please upload again.

Thank you all chefs for your hardwork......
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Bill Bee:
MIRROR!

u can dl this fine r0m from

mediafire.com/?fl69f9cvk7y6awu
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe USer:
Service Pack 1 - Minor bug fixes

I've started working on a service pack for Foundation 1.0. It will essentially be a script to fix any minor issues people are having with the release. I do not want this to require a re-flash, so everyone can keep their settings.

So, please let me know if there are any issues you are having that I can reproduce and and fix in the first service pack.

Also, I'm adding radio 4.49.25.88 as a recommended radio. I've tested it while traveling these past 2 weeks and it performed very well.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe USer:
Call for bug reports

Does anyone have any outstanding bugs that need to be fixed?

All I really have on the bug list is a contact issue that I can't reproduce.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vagabond1:
Well, is there any chance on an updated Sense?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe USer:
If there's a call for it, I'll do a Foundation 2.0 with the latest Sense. I'm hoping to make 1.0 rock solid first though.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sharpstone:
Maybe it is great to add automatic configuration of network, Office shoud be 2010? thanks for the stable rom
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Joe USer:
Retiring ROM

I've decided to retire this ROM, it has served its purpose. There are newer ROMS out there that do a better job now.

The closest thing to the Foundation ROM is Jackos S2 SleekBASIC, which I've been using for a few weeks now and does an excellent job as a very fast, high battery life Sense 2.1 ROM. If you liked this ROM, I think you'll like SleekBASIC.
[Desire General] marmin:
Anyone know how to remove a number from the send message bit? Want to remove a second mobile number from a contact, otherwise I have to try to remember which is the wifes work mobile and personal mobile!

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Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire General] MasDroid:
Try clicking Menu > Edit, de-select (tap the minus sign) the number you don't want to use.
[Desire General] marmin:
Thanks for the reply, but not sure where to press edit, opened the contact, pressed edit and saw no minus signs, just crosses to remove number

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Sent from my HTC Desire
[Click Themes and Apps] haree:
hi

my good friend Jagan_3400 had given me the below apps to try for bluetooth transfer problem on our tattoo pls see link below hope it helps

havent tried it yet just downloading the aps

Link : http://www.medieval.it/content/view/61/86/
[Click Themes and Apps] TheSSJ:
Doesn't work unfortunately...:(

It says the problem is the stock HTC OS which is installed :((

But thanks for the link - will keep an eye on it if maybe an update comes up bypassing the tattoo problem...
[Click Themes and Apps] haree:
ya buddy ur right but the site claims so but it did not work it said u need 2.1 and to as htc for the update sorry guys :(