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[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
An empty box where? in MsM or later in mobile shell when selecting the skin?

Also, is it the weather widget which is having issues or calendars, operators, contacts as I think you wrote in your previous post? (sorry, you're kinda losing me here lol) :p

Did you try with just one weather widget (if so, which one) or all of them are acting weird?

How much free device memory do you have? (main device memory, not storage card)
[Windows Mobile Themes] mad_a_22:
hey Vostradamus

how can i make an invisible status? i mean thiers an invisible link that directs me to may status (text, misscalls). i totally forgot how.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Well, if you use some particular application to handle your text messages etc. you could place on your screen an invisible link pointing to that app... is this what you meant? :confused:
[Windows Mobile Themes] rjrocks:
i m really sorry for writing weather, now there is no problem. i can change the skins for all the widgets as mentioned on the earlier post. Actually the problem was when i click on preview then click on contacts or operator or calendar no widget list was appearing on the screen except that empty box.Anyways i m happy now. Thnx for ur tremendous support.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
lol ok, now I got it :)

Not all widgets currently have a preview, that's why you didn't see any :) Even those categories with no preview images though have plenty activable widgets :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] davidm2:
Hi,

about the date widget: i dont know, how it's done, but there is original SPB skin of "digital clock" which has at second line the date in that format what I need (look at the picture attached).

Im not sure about arial narrow, use tahoma rather, but Im still fan of HelveticaNeue LT 35 Thin - if you use this font and there won't be this font installed on device, so SPB use some font substitution to tahoma anyway, so you could specify Helv.Thin as fontfamily and widget will be working on any device, or am I wrong? (HelveticaNeue LT 35 Thin has pretty same size of letter as tahoma but only thinner, so length and hight of text is not so different...)

"Clean simple large clock" looks acceptable (if there will be no backgroud and the text will be white...).

What about battery widget, is it possible? :-)

Thanx anyway for your effort.

David
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Yep, that's a possibility, but that digital clock format cannot include the day name...

uhm... I guess I'll try running some tests to see what happens without the font installed... quite simple as I don't have any htc device, so actually I won't be able to test the "real" version with your font lol :p

No background at all, text available in white, black, blue, cyan, green, red, yellow ;)

Right, forgot to mention it, yep... it's possible :)

You're welcome! :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] mad_a_22:
yes thats what i wanted to do...but i don't know where to find this invisible link. i can make an invisible link if it belongs to the programs folder but i can't make invisible status of my sms,emails.
[Windows Mobile Themes] 5480811:
Frustrated attempt to WP7 :(

I tried to make an issue of WP7 in MSM and was easy to make shortcuts with blue background, and create new panels (hubs) and pictures as shortcuts, but how difficult are the functional widgets, such as sms messages indicating received, or the analog clock is all very difficult.

I admire those who manage to make these topics. I pro gram in c #. net but nothing to do with art that is needed to make these widgets.

But I hope that one day an artist like Vostradamus be encouraged to do so.

I think a topic of serious MSM WP7 for the best because this application is very powerful and versatile.
[Windows Mobile Themes] claus1953:
You could place the invisible link pointing to your specific application over the regular status widgets for sms and email, so you could see the unread sms and email and when you click on them it takes you to your application.
[Windows Mobile Themes] mad_a_22:
ok...here's what i can't do so far. select add widget>then select sms and mms.

click the widget and change skin. the problem is that their is a no choose able invisible widget. if their is where can i find it in MSM widgets?

the only available so far invisible link that can direct me to an sms/mms is through add widgets>shortcut>then messaging. but the problem in this way is that when i select it, it will not go directly to the sms thread.

i think theirs no available widgets for this one...Vostradamus is it possible you can make an invisible status? ^_^

sorry for bad english.
[Windows Mobile Themes] theburnoutkid:
320x320

Ive installed MsM and the QVGA libraries on my samsung epix with a sqvga screen most of the widgets are working great but when i activate a weather widget i try to change the skin to it and they r invisible ... the preveiw shows up but they dont in the shell. any ideas?
[Windows Mobile Themes] mad_a_22:
i assume you have no ms panels shortcuts. try to activate it in create shortcuts. i hope this helps.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
What app are you using to handle your sms and email?

EDIT: ok, I've read further in the thread lol :)

You don't want an invisible link, you want an invisible status widget :) Will see what I can do ;)

EDIT 2:..... or you could also try with an invisible link after creating manually the shortcut file... try creating, for example, a file name "SMS.lnk" (you can use notepad for this) and write this inside of it:

40#"\windows\tmail.exe" -service "SMS"

Then place the .lnk file inside windows\start menu\programs.

Now you should be able to link to it with an invisible link, and by tapping on it you should be taken directly to the sms folder ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
What size are you using for your "hubs"? I could make an analog clock and some status widgets for it ;)

By the way, there should be already a set of neon status widgets suitable for a hubs layout, named "Neon x Mskip WP7"... check them out and see if you like them and if their size could work for you, otherwise I'll make new ones ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Which ones did you try? Some very old weather widgets could not be (yet) compatible with square devices (this I'll try to fix in the next update), but there should be many working fine already...
[Windows Mobile Themes] mad_a_22:
yes thats what i meant...:D i just want to combine it with some of your status like bubble. and i think their are useful things that it can combine with.
[Windows Mobile Themes] davidm2:
Hi,

i think I can live without day name (mostly I know, what day is today :) )

The (short)date will be fine.

Thanx.

D.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
huh? I don't think I get it.... if you wanna use the bubble status then why don't you just click on it to open sms, mail, whatever? :confused:

I don't really see the point in placing an invisible status widget over visible status widget lol :p
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
oooooook! ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] mad_a_22:
the bubble actually is too small to tap by a hand.:(
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Bubble is available in 2 sizes... do you find the larger one too small too? :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] mad_a_22:
i like the small one..its cute.:D....

anyways their are other things that the invi status can be used. like the one i am making right now as a wallpaper. i'll post the picx later. i hope you'll like it.

;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
I was about to suggest a modified bubble status widget with the same graphics but a larger active area, but if you're planning other uses then maybe I'll switch back to the 100% invisible one :p

How big should it be? 60x60 on qvga and 120x120 on vga like the default one maybe?
[Windows Mobile Themes] BIGDINOG:
Just want to thank you for your hard work, excuse my ignorance. Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Themes] meanmug:
Vostradamus I have an idea after seeing the curve menu bar, would a auto hide feature be possible for the menubars? Say for instance after a couple of seconds the menu bar would disappear or go down and then come back when you touch the screeen.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
don't worry, it's ok ;)

You're welcome! :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Would be nice, but I'm afraid mobile shell does not support something like that :p
[Windows Mobile Themes] mad_a_22:
100% invisible is much nicer.:D

maybe the same size of a small and medium invi hub.
[Windows Mobile Themes] fubo73:
Hi Vostradamus,

I would avoid to install Shell Manager every time I flash a new ROM. To do so, I should install it on SDcard, can I? Second, are there anything needed (registry settings, ...) before it is usable?

Regards.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
wow, that large? :eek:
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
not only you can, but you must ;) MsM should never be installed on device memory 'cause its libraries are very large and would fill it up in a wink... it should always be installed on memory card or any other additional memory :)

No registry entries needed... after flashing the new rom just reinstall spb mobile shell then go into MsM folder and manually run the "install.mscr" script (of course after registering mortscript extensions): this will recreate the shortcuts inside programs\vostradamus and will also enable the task manager in the possible choices for the advanced menubar (all this is usually automated during MsM installation) :)

EDIT: forgot to mention.... after installing spb mobile shell you will also need to run the "restore xml" function inside MsM to re-import the xml definition file... this is usually done automatically by the import library script, but the library will be already in place so you need to do it yourself :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] fubo73:
I use to cook Mortscript in my ROM and register it for .mscr files. Do I need the exe in your folder?
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
yes you need it because MsM is scripted to work even on devices without registered mortscript extensions, so every piece of script is called by pointing to the exe in its folder and passing the script name as parameter...
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
oh, another thing (was almost forgetting it)

you also need the arial narrow font in your windows\fonts folder: some widgets use it and it's not always part of the rom :P
[Windows Mobile Themes] fubo73:
Thanks, I will integrate.
[Windows Mobile Themes] mad_a_22:
or...at least two choices....the same size as neonxmskipwp7 and glass square.:rolleyes:
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
oooook, got it ;) 2 sizes will be :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] ziko87:
Hello againnnnn...:) Strange thing happend - I don`t remember before or after I installed the Imarche skins (I think after), but the weather and analog clock widgets became "invisible". What I mean - the weather widget (I use Manilla`s - the widget is invisible, only the temperature text on the bottom of the widget is visible), the analog clock (I use the glass one - only the small size is working, when I choose medium ot large only the hands of the clock are visible, but not the clock).

YOUR WIDGETS WORK JUST FINE THOUGH :) If I can get some help, I`ll appreciate. If not I would give you an idea to make your weather widget with the min-max temperature ot the bottom ;) Wow the post became big so thats all for now ;) Regards!

UPDATE: After I re-instal the Shell the problem was gone, but after I installed the Imarche skins, some widgets do have problems :) Good to have Vostra`s things ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] 5480811:
Library decompress but requests a password

I'm Sorry I do not understand. I feel a little silly with this. download the full library. but are compressed in a zip. from the msm try to import them, but I see the MSM libraries folder, I guess it's because the compressed (. zip). I try to decompress but requests a password. Should miss a step I'm doing, but it is not.
[Windows Mobile Themes] theburnoutkid:
OK i open MsM went to Create Shortcuts Clicked on MS Panels then a window sayin MS Panels Shortcuts created successfully but the widgets still dont show up the names are there but no image

I have the Multifunctional-Digital2,HTCMoxy,and Spil widgets activated now none show up i can preview them in MsM But after i activate them the names show up in the change skin list but the image dosnt show in the list or if I choose them theyre invisible.

Thanks for all the work you've done you've put new life into my phone
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Uhm... I don't really know what could be wrong in imarche's stuff, sorry... I've installed it only on the emulator some time ago to check for compatibility but I've never really "used" it :p

About the weather widget... I made most of them without text on purpose: if you take a look at the available weather widget, there are several "text only" ones in different colors... so you can combine the graphic ones with the text ones to obtain the preferred result ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
ehm..... where did you download the library from??? I've never uploaded it as a zip file... it's a .wzg file :confused: :eek:

Maybe you could try redownloading it....

Online folders where you can fine the files are (as in the first post):

on Mediafire: http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=96d66e397bccb22bbda4076e811714c8c22d3c2dbed8d8fc515d15c8b368bfbe

or on 4shared: http://www.4shared.com/dir/2kvxzD_v/Mobile_Shell_Manager.html

on both of them the library files are named

MsM Full Library (QVGA).wzg

and

MsM Full Library (VGA).wzg

so no zip files at all ;)

in MsM you will run the "import library" function, then you will select the .wzg file, that's all :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Nope, that was not the problem, he just misunderstood what kind of issue you're having :)

Uhm... all those ones should be working already on a 320x320 device.... :confused:

- not sure if I already asked you: did you download the qvga library?

- have you already tried running the "restore xml" function in MsM?

- do other non-weather widgets work fine or are they having problems too?

- if you answered yes to all of the above, could you attach your qa_layouts.dat so I can take a look at it?

- also, how much free device memory do you have?
[Windows Mobile Themes] ziko87:
I could, but your weather text don`t have the temperature :) Bud don`t worry, I found a way to make an effect, from the defect of the Imarche skins. I`ve set the Imarche manila weather widget, that shows the picture and temperature (in this case only the temperature) and mix it up with your manila widget ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
huh? :confused: I think we're talking about different weather widgets....

I was not referring to the "info text" weather widget, which is a graphic text describing weather conditions, but to the "temperature" weather widget which is completely without graphics and just displays the temperature and nothing more :)

Temperature weather widget is a text only widget, available in two sizes, 7 colors each, showing exactly what you're looking for: temperature :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] ziko87:
Please show it to me or where I should find it. I didn`t think I`m blind, but you are proving me wrong :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Sure :)

MsM -> Widgets -> Activate -> Weather

In there you will find

Temperature Small Black

Temperature Small White

Temperature Small Blue

Temperature Small Cyan

Temperature Small Green

Temperature Small Red

Temperature Small Yellow

Temperature Medium Black

Temperature Medium White

Temperature Medium Blue

Temperature Medium Cyan

Temperature Medium Green

Temperature Medium Red

Temperature Medium Yellow

Maybe you've been "tricked" by the fact that these widgets do not have a preview image... I thought it was not necessary to include previews for such a simple and graphics-less thing (trying not to enlarge the library size unnecessarily lol) :p
[Windows Mobile Themes] mad_a_22:
your next step..try to go to libraries>restore xml.

@Vostradamus

this is my simple wallpaper for now. that's why i need an invi status.:D
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
I was sorta guessing something like that :)

Next update will most probably have your invisible status, but also a status widget with graphics quite similar to those ones you already placed on your screen :p
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
lol dumb me for not thinking of this before.... but you could easily use invisible links for that :p

- For missed calls you can use an invisible link to the "call log" panel of mobile shell

- For text messages you can use a handmade shortcut... just create a txt file and write this in it

30#windows\tmail.exe -service "SMS"

then copy the file to your device, rename it as "SMS.lnk" and place it in your windows\start menu\programs folder.

Now you can use an invisible link to this file to open you sms inbox :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] ziko87:
Yep, I was "tricked" just by that :) Well, all is fine now. Can you tell me which other things don`t have a preview ?
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
in MsM preview function you will most probably miss the previews for special contact skins and calendar/tasks widgets :p (should be available in the online gallery on picasa though) ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] ziko87:
Ooook ! I meant the Online gallery preview :) Regards, Vostra !
[Windows Mobile Themes] Margez:
Dear Vostradamus!

I love the new menubar (Curve Design)! Very nice!

Maybe there is a possibility to make it black, blue etc.!?

But it`s not important, I am very happy with it.

One Question: Is it possible to add to the menubar like in HTC Sense a Buttom or a line to know on which page you are?

My only problem is that I am too addicted to your MsM!

I am changing my layouts and my Wallpaper maybe every 15 Minutes!:D

Here`s my Layout (maybe just for the next 15 minutes:eek:)

Best regards

Uploaded with ImageShack.us
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
I could consider creating differently colored versions :) Maybe I should run a poll to see what color would be the most requested :p

You mean sort of an indicator showing on which page of the current panel you are? I'm afraid that's not possible 'cause mobile shell keeps the menubar fixed while sliding the pages on its background, so there's no way to show different graphics according to what page you're on :(

lol I know the feeling! :D

Cool! :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] mskip:
Well its not possible using the standard spb theme as a base but my Elegance, Ultimate Elegance and Droid themes all have moving page indicators as they use individual panels all linked up so that each panel calls the same menubar but with a different page indicator position.

So thats not 'stricly' true :p

Mark.
[Windows Mobile Themes] mad_a_22:
if it won't cause too much trouble. can you still include this invi on your next update? i like it to be part of your MSM. it is much easier to disable or use it than make and delete.;)

and that widget with graphics idea you have is nice.;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
lol of course, but I meant it's not possible if you want the sliding background... :)

Using several 1 page panel and giving up the sliding background it becomes possible (but it requires creating the graphics for as many menubars as the maximum number of "linked" panels the user wants to use, which could be sorta heavy on device memory on some low-mem devices... unless I'm missing something somewhere) :p

Memory apart, it's not really a "complete" solution unless it's part of a "all inclusive" theme like your ones... in your case it's perfect, but it would not be so in a customizing tool like MsM :)

EDIT: on a second thought... I wrote something wrong: it would not require several graphics (didn't think it through well lol) :p Yet, it's still great when you build the whole theme to be released, but not handy when the end user is the one who builds everything (number of panels, number of pages per panel and so on)... it would be impossible having everything ready for every possible user choice :p Best way to have such an indicator is still a complete, precompiled full-fledged theme like yours :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
No trouble at all, of course :)

Actually it's gonna be quite easy... invisible means that I won't have to draw any graphic lol :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] mskip:
I was about to correct you but then you beat me to it haha. I agree that using MsM it would be possible but a bit complicated creating all the extra panels and considering all the options you have right now it would add alot of hasstle to your Manager lol (especially when it comes to backing it all up and restoring it).

On a side note I managed to get that program working that I was talking to you about the other night. I already had an amount of preset languages for the storage card so I just set the script to look for the file using those presets and if it couldnt be found then the program asked the user to type in the exact name of the storage card for their language. The name was then stored in a registry entry for retnetion after reboots and used that registry entry to run the file.

Worked out really nicely in the end so thanks for the advise :)

Mark.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
lol for once I've been faster than you or Jotha, I'm impressed by myself :D

Yep, mainly I would need to script the menubar xml creation considering a lot of variables more whereas now that script is not too tangled, plus users would have to create and "connect" all the pieces, resulting in possible mistakes (and tons of questions on here lol) :p

If I may suggest a small improvement: instead of having the user input the name manually, have him select the root folder of the storage card from a tree view, this way you'll avoid possible typos while entering the string ;)

Anytime, mate ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] ziko87:
Vostra, I`m here again :) I found something strange...When I add "temp. text widget" it changes the color of the contact names in the call log :) Other strange thing is that the widget color and the names color in the log are not the same...Try it :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
huh?? :confused: :eek:

That's weird... the two things are completely unrelated (and it's not happening on my device or on my emulator) :confused:
[Windows Mobile Themes] ziko87:
Weird indeed ;) I think it has something to do with the Imarche, but thats ok :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
lol you're making me curious.... if I'll manage to find some spare time maybe I'll install imarche on the emulator and run some tests about it :p

(dunno when though)
[Windows Mobile Themes] dansia47:
It seems to me that imarche (i don't know it) implies a lot of problems: why to persist with it?
[Windows Mobile Themes] ziko87:
Don`t bother :) I`ve re-installed SPB MS and the problem was gone, I`ve restore the XML file and there was no problem, but when I installed the Imarche skin 4.5.1, the problem appear. Not a big deal though :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] ziko87:
No, not really. I`ve used it for a long time and this are the first problems I have with it. But I think it`s really the version of the skins - something is wrong with the instalation :) Like I said - not a big problem at all :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Well, I guess it can have some nice features too (I don't know it that much, so I'm taking a guess here...)

I tried it a little bit some time ago.. well, actually quite long time ago lol, and it looked nice, I gave up on it mainly because I also use my phone to test new versions of MsM before releasing them, and I prefer to test them on a clean mobile shell with no other addon :p

(plus I can do pretty much whatever I like with MsM, but this will sound like advertising LOL) :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Oh, so you already found out for sure the source of the weird thing, I guess I'll skip the tests then :p
[Windows Mobile Themes] powercat1:
Mark,

I've not been able to be around much. However, I did read your post about your droid theme. However, I have been unable to find it. I would love to give it a try since I have always used your themes as a base to MSM. Could you point me to that theme?