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[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nDrg:
I bought an N1 and still would if I had to make the choice again. Although I did like SenseUI, it simply wasn't important enough when comparing it against how quick the N1 will get OS updates over other Android devices. The N1 and Desire are very similar phones performance wise, whereas newer Android devices have a better camera etc these two are virtually identical. Therefore it comes down to a pretty simple choice, how quick do you want updates :P
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LBTaylor1984:
I appreciate what your saying, and accept that the Sense isn't the same, but while not the same I can see the appeal.

As for the 'T-Mobile' version do I have to specify it at point of sale?

The Modaco Rom looks most interesting i'll investigate it and see what happens. So far i'm leaning more to the N1.

BTW I heard a rumor Google were stop selling the N1 themselves is this true?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Karolis:
They will not sell N1 via the website, but it will still be available via carriers. In the US it will only be T-Mobile, because everyone else decided to not sell N1 and sell Evo 4G and Incredible instead.

In the UK, there should be more carriers, but for now it's only Vodafone as far as I know.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LBTaylor1984:
Interesting you say this as i'm on the payments page (was looking for total cost)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GazzaK:
nexus one - t-mobile uk owner

it's still for sale at the mo, but a recent googlerumour (tm) said they'd soon be stopping the http://google.com/phone purchase store, only having links to carriers.

I bought one a few months back, first android phone (came from a HTC touch Pro (pm me if anyone wants to buy)) and have to say it is a ruddy good phone, total cost including import tax was a fair bit but still less than having a contract @ £35 a month for 18 months min.

I'm happy with mine and would do the same again.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] C.Slater:
Personally I like the N1 better. I have an N1 and my brother-in-law has the Desire. Both are nice phones but I liked android stock, speech-to-text and noise cancellation. The sense UI does give the perception of a more polished phone, though, which is ideal if you just want that polished experience and don't care for fiddling around with rooting and different roms. My brother-in-law isn't a geek and just wanted a smartphone to use for social networks and to replace his tom-tom, so the Desire is ideal for him too.

They're basically the same phone and it all depends on how you'll use it. For me, no other phone has voice dictation and noise cancellation and so the N1 stands out from all the rest.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rusty!:
Word of advice:

DO NOT BUY THE UK CHARGER

It's not worth it, I use an 80p shaver plug from ASDA with the supplied US charger.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LBTaylor1984:
After extended looking at the two phones the Sense UI is starting to win me over... The Nexus 1 is the modders phone, but what are the widgets like? Sense look really good and useful.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johnnie93:
I would say if your going to stick to Stock then Get the Samsung Galaxy S I hear its amazingly Fast!! but if you want to Root get the nexus one.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LBTaylor1984:
it will be rooted, but for the purpose of being right up to date. with the best apps.

it's either Desire or Nexus 1.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] C.Slater:
Then it has to be the N1.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kam187:
Desire isnt as easy to root. The current root for it doesnt allow you to write to the filesystem if I understand corectly. So if you want to have the most options available to you, I would go for the N1.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bratfink:
WARNING

You should also be aware that the total cost on googles site is not the total cost at all, when ordering to the UK you will be charged a variety of taxes including VAT and customs tax etc etc which make the phone alot more expensive. I personally recomend you buying the phone from a friend with an upgrade coming on Voda, most people find it hard to turn down £400 cash. Thats just my 2 pence :P
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kam187:
You only pay VAT at 17.5%. There's no duties or customs taxes on the phone itself.

You only pay duty on accesories, eg the UK plug - which is pointless - just use a US to UK adapter for 50p
[HD2 General] demon-resident:
Hello,

I have MIRI v17 rom (without HTC messaging).

I wanted to install CHTEditor v1.7.1.2 but it demands .NET 3.5 installed previously. MIRI v17 has .NET v3.5 installed but different that needed for CHTEditor.

I tryed to use all instruction from here http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6413191&postcount=1063, but unfortunately I can't overwrite files from ROM (using Resco explorer).

Please assist...

Thanks
[HD2 General] demon-resident:
someone can assist?
[General Questions and Answers] HTC_Loverboi:
How do i make my signature in my profile? Under my USER CP the option isnt there..
[General Questions and Answers] Archer:
Your sig won't show as you're a new user. You need to go into the forum forums, not a phone specific forum, and ask a moderator.

Go to the root xda-developers forum and find somewhere more relevant to ask this - a mod will be able to advise you.
[General Questions and Answers] Spl4tt:
u can change in user CP and then "edit signature" in the "settings & options" section on the left side
[General Questions and Answers] djchubbs:
I dont think it will show untill the user is a member or senior member
[General Questions and Answers] j03:
I dont remember having to be "moderated" in order to get a Signature... how strange!
[General Questions and Answers] Archer:
This is why I suggested he ask in a moderator thread (which, incidentally, he has done). He'll get a proper answer there, instead of what we think. I'm not sure myself, but I think it only shows up when you become a member (not a junior).
[General Questions and Answers] Spl4tt:
well, look at j03, he is junior member too... but has a sig^.^
[General Questions and Answers] Archer:
Good job I suggested he ask a mod then, rather than try to answer him myself ;)

Anyway, as I said above, he's asked in a more relevant forum so this thread should be closed or left to die.
[General Questions and Answers] p00ltergeist:
I red somewhere in the settings that you're only able to create a signature when you have written a total of

8

posts/threads

SORRY

for updating the thread
[General Questions and Answers] vietnam car rental:
I am finding the signature. I see now. Tks
[General Questions and Answers] Lunchboxbob:
well i still dont see it, maybe i will after 8 posts
[General Questions and Answers] ckiyouy:
I dont remember having to be "moderated" in order to get a Signature... how strange!
[General Questions and Answers] Ventrik101:
It's a 10 post limit, though I wouldn't advise spamming to get your post count up to get it unlocked. 10 really isn't that hard to get.
[General Questions and Answers] luirhy:
Is it 8 or 10 posts? will have to find out. Not used to posting. I just read and read. Will have to be more active now
[Desire General] LBTaylor1984:
Hello guys,

I've put my HD2 up for sale and i'm looking for a Android phone.

I've obviously got the Desire and N1 in mind however choosing between the two i'm just so unsure.

The Desire has the SenseUI which I love on my HD2, and by my understanding the Widgets are pretty good compared to the N1, but the Android updates will be slower because of SenseUI needing to be integrated on each release.

But I have to admit i'm one of those people who needs a device running on the latest software being all it can be, so with the fact the N1 is already on Froyo 2.2 i'm then pulled towards this phone, as I'm doubtful the Desire will receive the same support over time.

Also if I Root the N1 I presume some people are putting Sense UI on the N1's and I could do the same>?

Likewise could I do the same thing on the Desire, i.e. Vanilla Froyo 2.2 without SenseUI on the Desire? or are they different internally?

My other headache is I would need to buy the N1 from the states, and am concerned of it not working properly in the UK.

with pinch to zoom on the N1 now, the only difference is the slightley different pshyical layout, and SenseUI, with N1 getting the updates first.

If i've said anything incorrect please let me know, correct me, more information is always good

And if you were buying one now which would you buy?

Thanks, Luke.
[Desire General] EddyOS:
Why do you NEED the latest software on the device? Bragging rights? ;)

I went from an HD2 to a Desire and it's the best decision I ever made! Sense is better than on the HD2 - working out of the box - and bar A2SD (which I've added on a custom ROM) there's nothing you need 2.2 for...I'd get the Desire and wait for 2.2 to be released - N1 hardware is a bit pap and trackballs have a habbit of going wrong

This is my own view though :D
[Desire General] souljas:
I had the same decision but went for the desire purely for money reasons. I thought that the desire would outset the n1 and get a better modding community but it seems I was wrong. There are lots of devs for the n1 that are pretty active and it is very apparent since the release of froyo. But I still prefer the real buttons on the desire but the optical trackball is probably not as easy to use as the n1. Plus from the deg forum I dont think that the desire has been fully rooted yet in respect to loading custom spl (but I may be wrong about that)....if I could go back I would have got the n1
[Desire General] LBTaylor1984:
the reason i look to the N1

is because like soulja i feel the Desire is receiving updates later than the N1. Froyo is a clear example. the N1 has it already. but the Desire is going to get it with no date set. my concern is the supporr HTC will offer in future, because of SenseUI. im concerned that the modding, updates will not be as good or regular.

the reason the HD2 is going is because the app market is naff, and app support is failing as everyone is waiting for WM7.

I need a phone i can fiddle with.
[Desire General] EddyOS:
Why do you NEED to fiddle with it? What's wrong with it as it is? The N1 got the update first because it is a Google phone outright, all other handsets are 3rd party so of course there'll be a delay in updates - albeit, hopefully, not a long one

The Desire is better than the N1 in every way bar the updates to Android - and I , personally, can wait for FroYo
[Desire General] panos123:
Sounds like you already set on the n1 but decide to enter a room full of Desire users to dissuade you for some reason.

Do you have to buy from US?
[Desire General] gunja99:
Soe people just need to fiddle, leave them to it! Why make loads of custom roms, and change them on a daily basis and flash all the time! People love doing this, and if the N1 has quicker updates, etc let em have it. I personally would love to have time to fiddle with a phone 24/7, but I get an hour a month, and love my desire out the box and Sense is great! If you don't like fiddling too much then great, but if someone loves fiddling then that's great too! Don't question WHY people want summit they just do! I personally would choose the desire as it's great out the box, and better hardware, and OK I may have to wait a little bit for 2.2/2.3, etc, etc in the future, but so what, it doesn't bother me (it may bother others and so be it!)
[Desire General] EddyOS:
I love to fiddle, I cooked ROMs for my HD2 as the stock ROMs were poor to say the least. I'm just wondering why this person needs to fiddle. The phone, out the box, is nigh on perfect so there's not a lot to do. FroYo will be out eventually so probably best to wait for it...

It's purely curiosity :D
[Desire General] LBTaylor1984:
Problem i've faced.

IS that like most things we have an idea of how something should work. Anyone who's used a HD2 is probably well aware of how much better it is with C00kies hometab mod. I can't actually use mine Stock lol.

I've had my HD2 2 a while and have only just released 1.72, where as Unlocked people are rockin' on 2.10 While I no this is more todo with the network than the phone, I'd just like to be using the newer more update features as and when they arrive. I also like applying mods to user interface, and sometime functionality.

I'm doubtful of HTC's commitment to keep the Desire up to date. Sure you might see 2.2 but will you get 3.0? will HTC then have replaced the Desire with a new flagship model and say that the Desire is no longer on the update program?

Oddly my problem is with HTC and there Sense UI, don't get me wrong my HD2 without it is crap, but it slows down the updates significantly with regards to the Android system, and this concerns me.

@panos: the Nexus one isn't available in the UK simfree, so i have to buy from the US. However the Desire I an obtain from a UK retailer.

The Desire is £400

The Nexus1 is £437 phone,shipping,vat,import.
[Desire General] EddyOS:
If Google release a new phone then the N1 will also be left out of the loop so that's not really a valid argument. You can get the N1 on Vodafone so you could always get a contract with them (assuming you're due an upgrade).

Your experience of WinMo is the same as mine - I was constantly cooking ROMs and Co0kie's HT was a must for me - but on the Desire I've not needed anything bar trying the new radios. You can't compare the 2 as they're worlds apart!!

I prefer the buttons on the Desire to the touchscreen ones on the N1 - and don't get my started on the stupid ball on the N1!!

End of the day, if you're someone who can't leave something alone then get the N1 but IMO the Desire is a superior device and Sense makes it even better. Plain Android is piss poor and just looks boring...
[Desire General] sruon:
well in a few month when desire is released in north America It's going to gain a lot more attention.
[Desire General] .Hodgy.:
+1 totally agree with you
[Desire General] LBTaylor1984:
quite interesting,

some people are saying I'd get a N1 if i could in hindsight. However after looking at the Sense UI i'm having trouble seeing the N1 as a good looking OS
[Desire General] souljas:
If you really like sense ui then i guess the desire is better for you...but personally, after having the G1, i would go for a phone with a better dev community. I miss my g1 and custom roms,,,,it was very fun and i miss those days...

plus as some have said HTC normally are not very quick with updates like the hero

^^^but yeah i hope when usa gets it the deving will improve
[Desire General] Grady_hawks:
Do hope I am not to late to input on this.

Well through a small loop hole in Vodafones mobile network, I managed to get both the Desire and the Nexus 1.

Initially I had an early upgrade from the sony satio (what an awful phone) to the HTC desire, and loved it. Was absolutely fantastic, loved all of it and couldnt think of trading it away.

However, it stopped working all of a sudden. Around 2 hours later on the phone to vodafone, I was sent a Nexus one the next day. To my dismay, my desire started to work again. Happy days. Anyway, after having both phones for around 2 weeks I've decided that I am to sell the desire, even though the nexus would get me more coin. Yeah, it doesnt look as pretty as sense, but after a while you dont miss it. As for rooting and having latest updates, its the way to go.

IMO get the N1, vodafone do a pretty good deal. Best advise is to make the contract over the phone, they will give you near anything if your convincing
[Desire General] samac92:
I would have got the N1 if I could go back. As for Sense being good looking I have to disagree. HTC have removed the app transitions (the fade in and out) and replaced the 3d app drawer with a plain black app drawer that lags. Also they have managed to make the default music player worse than stock.

The only thing I like about sense is the widgets, but beautiful widgets is an adequate replacement.

Also the N1 is very easy to root and near impossible to brick, whereas HTC have gone out of their way to spoil the fun and prevent us getting a full root (so far)

I am considering selling my Desire and getting the N1
[Desire General] dreamdealer:
I got a Desire because the N1 was not available on contract if it was I would of probably gone for the N1.

I spent 18 months on a G1 and loved all the support it got from the modding community much the same as the N1 has now, but I also at the time was in awe of the ui on the Hero which turned out to be a better build than the G1 in my opinion, and I questioned my self on if I made the right choice to get the G1 or not or should of waited a bit longer for the Hero to be released.

Since the Hero came out later, it was behind on the modding scene then picked up pace a lot later on, much the same as I imagine the Desire scene will explode sooner or later especially if we get full root on the device, people also say HTC are slow at updates which is true, but I got an update as soon as took it out of the box, but I think due to the N1 not been available on contract though various carriers in the UK until now and as far as I am aware only Vodafone, HTC has has sold a hell of a lot more Desires though various carriers on contract, that i think Vodafone will ever sell of the N1 thus they might realise that 2.2 should be shipped out to the Desire sooner rather than later to keep its users happy.

My friend has a N1 and my personal opinion the Desire looks a hell of a lot better outside and inside.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] broed:
Hello people,

I have a problem with my phone. Since two weeks after recharging my phone, my phone "thinks" the headphones are plugged in. This isn't true, what means that i can't hear my phone ring (when I call somebody), or hear the other speak, when he or she answers.

I have to plug inn my headphones to have a conversation. Does somebody knows how to fix this problem?

Either way, thanks a lot.

Greetings,

Broed
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ddotpatel:
Try this,...

Plug your headphones in,... then reboot, don't take out until fully re-started again...

Give it a go,...
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] broed:
Not working..

I think i have to visit a store:(
[About XDA developers] HTC_Loverboi:
Is there a way I can add my own signature on here? I heard that it is in USER CP but the option isnt there ...:confused:

Moderator Edit - Here's the answer from svetius

It may take time after reaching the 5-8 post limit for it to allow you access, this is because the process runs in the background.

And when you have enough posts, you can edit your Signature in the UserCP (on the left hand side called "Edit Signature").

Or just click here : Edit Signature
[About XDA developers] DaveShaw:
People / Bots were Posting generic messages, like "Thanks this is great" or in some cases, actual responses based on words in a thread. The post it's self was not spam (although pretty pointless), but the users signature would contain 3-4 links to an online company of varying levels of trustworthiness.

We used to find one or two of these bad boys a day. Because they didn't create new threads, nor did they make it obvious to the casual observer, they were getting away with it.

I have not seen one of the so called "signature spammers" since the rules were put in place.

Dave
[About XDA developers] davidvkimball:
I had the same question...this is an excellent way to manage spam users. Good job, looking forward to delving more into this forum and getting a signature!
[About XDA developers] jade12:
I was a bit upset at not being able to have a signature. Thanks Daveshaw for explaining. Its indeed a great way to stop spammers.
[About XDA developers] reinbeau:
You should be all set now, check your User Control Panel :)
[About XDA developers] giorgos21:
finally i found the way!!!thank you ;)
[About XDA developers] zacburgess:
At last I found out why I cant use signature.

I will be using the "search" more. :)
[About XDA developers] blade30p:
ah so

so that's why I couldn't see it, cant wait to unlock my sig status :o
[About XDA developers] GrimReaper24:
Ya the post limit thing when you start a new account is a good idea to keep the spam to nothing.. :D
[About XDA developers] Pbwizkid:
Been readying these forums for a while now and finally signed up and that was the first thing I went to go do so I could edit mine to say phone type and what rom and all that nifty stuff nice t see I'm not going crazy and it really wasn't there lol
[About XDA developers] GrimReaper24:
Ya just takes some time lol.. Alot of sites do it that way nowa days... I always forget to come over to these threads to check on things... Always busy in the EVO 3D ones...
[About XDA developers] CodyJv:
I like and dislike the idea.

I just logged into my account to make post (have like none) so am sorta spamming to be able to post solutions to android revolution HD. /sarcasm. My post aren't spam but i'm going to get 8 before midnight tonight!

I can see how it helps, but jeez. Couldnt post in the developer forum for the audio fix solution I made. :(
[About XDA developers] reinbeau:
But you could post it in General, and then help a few people out while you were there, in Q&A, if your device has one. Don't bother with useless posts, they will be deleted and you'll never get to 10.
[About XDA developers] Hikari:
.

Well, you might be right but its not that easy. You know I have experience in those stuff in the development forum, but I have no way to make posts there. :(

I dont wanna be a sort of spammer by posting stupid stuff to get all the 10 posts.

But this 10 post rule leaves no other way to accomplish...

To find a topic that I can make a useful post takes a lot of time.
[About XDA developers] cajunflavoredbob:
If you can't spend the time to make ten legitimate posts before posting in the dev fora, then you don't deserve to post there. This is a developer forum, not a support website.
[About XDA developers] reinbeau:
Oh really? I was a clueless noob total non-developer when I came here and I had no trouble at all helping people who needed links or a little guidance where to find the information they need. XDA works because people help those who help themselves. Do not post useless posts, they will be removed and you'll never get to 10.
[About XDA developers] boborone:
Why did this thread get unlocked? Now it's more noobs that can't read and just complain again.
[About XDA developers] reinbeau:
I don't know, I don't have mod powers here or I'd lock it back up myself :rolleyes:
[About XDA developers] boborone:
Just posted this in the mod request thread
[About XDA developers] cajunflavoredbob:
I requested that it remain open. I've helped out others with legitimate issues before here. Also, leaving it open allows mods to track spammers easily.
[About XDA developers] reinbeau:
Ah - there's a method to your madness ;) Good call, then.
[About XDA developers] boborone:
oh ok

10char
[About XDA developers] pikerumx:
thanks for the info ;)
[About XDA developers] dark_vader:
Nice faq ;)
[About XDA developers] KhaoticKonfusion:
this was helpful :D
[About XDA developers] mmorpheus1:
I have recently added a sig and have not been able to see it :(

I have made more than 10 posts so is it 10 posts from when you added your sig or 10 posts alltogether ??

Thanx :cool:

Edit : Nevermind ... It has just appeared after i made this post lol ;)
[About XDA developers] australize:
Thank. I will try made my signature.
[About XDA developers] equlog:
Nice to know.

Thanks :D
[About XDA developers] salfordscripteR:
Great idea!

I was abit confused at first when i couldnt find it, but now i see why. its a great idea and i may have to consider doign this for some of my own forums :D
[About XDA developers] jetaw03:
thank! so i should first post some more. i also cannot post on some threads..