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[Windows Mobile Themes] kenziesgrandma:
Vostradamus, I'd like to install the black metal taskbar that you showed on your screen in the Show your Screen post but I'm not sure what version to install. I'm sorry for putting this post in here (I know it's not an MSM question) but I don't want to install the wrong one and mess up all the work I just put into configuring my phone the way I want with MSM. Also my phone is a Bell CA phone, do I have to install the CDMA fix, do you know?

thanks

Kathy

Are there any progams that come with the phone that can be safely uninstalled if I'm not using them? I thought I might be able to gain some more memory that way.

thanks

Kathy
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Sure it is :) looks clean, I like it ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Uhm... I think you could actually have to install that fix, but I'm not 100% sure 'cause I don't really know much about cdma phones end even less about Bell lol :p Maybe you'd better find someone else with a Bell phone and ask him too, just to be sure... ;)

If an app came with the phone, chances are that it's not just "installed", but it's part of the rom, and I doubt it would be uninstallable...

Best shot at having a phone without any unneeded app would be flashing a clean, custom rom.... but usually I prefer not to flash the device unless something really keeps me from being able to use the phone the way I want (I still have the stock rom on my O2) :p
[Windows Mobile Themes] kenziesgrandma:
Good morning Vostradamus. thanks for the reply. I'll check out for sure about the CDMA fix before I install it then, but could you tell me which version of the taskbar you installed?

There's about 4 of them listed on the download site and I'm not sure which is the right one.

I couldn't flash my phone even if I wanted to cause nobody's been able to build a rom for the Bell (or Telus) phones yet, that's why I'm so happy with your MSM, it let's me set my phone up awesomely (is that a word, lol) without worrying about bricking my phone. I think I'll be OK anyway, I've got everything (except for the taskbar-do I install that to the device or the Storage?) and my memory is sitting around 48 MB Storage and 25 MB Program.

thanks again for your patience,

Kathy
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
as long as it's the one for WM 6.5 any one should do. :)

Only difference between those versions is the icon for the start menu, take a look at the image with the previews of the icons: on the top row you will see the possible choices, pick the download according to the start menu icon you prefer ;)

The cab needs to be installed to device memory, also don't forget to install sdkcerts first (downloadable from the same page)
[Windows Mobile Themes] darknos:
Are you going to support HVGA resolution? spb Mobile Shell supports it since 3.5.5
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
I don't have a mean to test hvga res, but:

- most widgets should already work (maybe not all of them, but most of them)

- most functions should also work

Menubars on hvga though are currently not supported.

The above is in theory, for as I wrote I can't test it... if you're gonna try it a feedback would be appreciated :p
[Windows Mobile Themes] gauravbaadshah:
Suggestions

Hi

Some suggestions:

1. The inject XML function doesn't remember previous directory name.

2. In Panels menu of MsM you can also have an extra feature that change the default active page of a particular panel through the ActivePage registry setting.

Thanks

GK

PS: Stay tuned for my amazing MS screenshots.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Nice idea, added to my to-do list :)

Is it needed? The ActivePage value in the registry stores the last used page... it would be the same as opening the panel and going to the interested page, could even be slower if done through MsM :confused:

Looking forward to seeing it :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] gauravbaadshah:
Yeah you are right!

One more thing your Line widget for the Birthday currently shows a default icon if the contact doesn't have a picture. I think you can modify it or have an additional widget which displays the Name-either full or just the first (it displayed the name in prev versions but the name overflowed).
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
huh? it should not show a default pic... I thought it was meaningless 'cause there would have been no way to know who it was without clicking on it lol... on the emulator I just see the name now with the correct alignment, that's kinda weird :confused: will try to reproduce it
[Windows Mobile Themes] gauravbaadshah:
Hi

I have a little problem though not completely related to MsM.

Look at the screenshot attached.

I have created another Lifestyle panel using MsM. In that panel I have placed the Fb widget. When I tap on it the widget shifts to the top and the SIP opens up, as is expected, but the SIP toggle button in the bottom menubar is missing and also the cursor in the widget. I can't see what I am typing but if I hit the update button it gets updated.

I am using modified menubar on WM6.5.3

Can you suggest some remedy?

Thanks in advance.

GK
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Uhm... looks like that's a quite "common" issue, for I've heard of it or something similar other times too.

Dunno if it can be related to WM 6.5.3 (don't have a 6.5.3 device to test it on), but so far I could not reproduce it on a 6.1 or 6.5 device with a mobile shell tweaked only with MsM

I guess possible "culprits" could be:

- WM 6.5.x

- some other mobile shell mod

- a combination of the above

The above is just a wild guess though, for I currently have no way to test something like that
[Windows Mobile Themes] ritchie.tomasouw:
password protected?

Hey guys... is the "MsM Full Widgets Library (QVGA).wzg" password protected??

When i try to unzip the file, i get a password screen...
[Windows Mobile Themes] gauravbaadshah:
Thanks for replying.

It works fine on WM 6.5.3 with the default MS installation.

The problem appeared after changing the menubars.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
you're not supposed to unzip it :)

you need to import it using the "import library" function inside MsM ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Uhmmm.... which menubar did you use? the one in your screenshot is not a MsM menubar...

Does it act weird the same way if you apply a MsM menubar on a clean MS installation?
[Windows Mobile Themes] gauravbaadshah:
On a clean MS installation on WM6.5.3 I applied your Neon menubar and it works okay.

On a clean MS installation on WM6.5.3 I applied my shown menubar and it worked okay. Now I have to investigate what other things that I changed are messing with that.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
uhm so the menubar is not the culprit, good! :) Lemme know if you find something :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] gauravbaadshah:
Hi

Ah man after hours of testing I now know what to do to reproduce the weird behavior. And I think it may or may not be related to WM6.5.3 or even MsM.

On a fresh installation of MS & MsM create a new lifestyle panel and then goto create shorctcuts.

After restarting MS, on the home lifestyle screen add a shortcut to the newly created panel. Then tap on it to go to the new panel. Then add the internet search/fb/twitter widget to the new panel. Tap on the widget to the see the weird behavior.

Now tap on the carousel button and return to the home screen. Tap again to open the carousel and goto the new panel. This time the widget behaves okay.

My opinion: when using the shortcut to go to the new panel it does not open the new panel inline rather it create a new screen with the close button to close it like in other panels (launcher etc.)

Is there any setting in the panel registry or dat file that can open the panel inline.

Thanks

GK
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
looks like you nailed it, bravo! :) I've been able to reproduce it doing the same on a 6.5 emulator, so it's not a 6.5.3 issue.

So the problem is in reaching the panel via link instead of via carousel.

The issue looks like it will be present in any theme/mod/whatever adding more panels reachable via link.

Will try to see if there's a way to link to a panel the same way as it's opened via carousel, but I can already see a bad side of this... even if it was possible (and I don't know yet if it is), you would then need a link back to the main page instead of being able to just "close" the panel.

This could be no problem in the case of a pro-panel 'cause you could just swipe-down back to main lifestyle screen, but it could be bad for additional lifestyle panels
[Windows Mobile Themes] gauravbaadshah:
Hi

I understand and appreciate your hard work. But this is important. So I would really really be grateful if you could spend some time and present a solution.

Thanks in advance.

GK
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
I'm taking a look at it, but no luck so far...

- linking to additional panels "from the outside" with a .lnk shortcut does not seem change anything

- reaching a panel via carousel instead of via link does not seem to alter anything in the registry

- xml panel definition is already fine, otherwise the issue would be always present (rechecked it just to be sure though)

I'll keep trying, but should it turn out to be somehow "hardcoded" I'm afraid I wouldn't be able to solve it (after all, additional panels are an unofficial tweak)
[Windows Mobile Themes] kenziesgrandma:
Vostradamus, I finally have everything set up and working great except (there's always an except, right? lol) I can't get the weather to show on my S2U lockscreen. I checked it to show the weather from the weather panel but it does nothing. Does yours work? If so what are the settings?

thanks

Kathy

ps I'd post screen shots but I don't know how, I think it all looks pretty cool.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
uhm... I don't have weather on s2u2 lockscreen 'cause I'm not using any compatible weather app.... if I'm not mistaken, mobile shell weathe and spb weather 2 are not supported, you should stick to the ooooooold spb weather 1 I'm afraid... (or some other supported app, I don't remember the list) :p

If you wanna try taking some screenshots there's a free spb app for that: spb screenshots :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] gauravbaadshah:
Alright ladies n gents! I nailed it. :D:cool::D

I don't use the carousel at all. It looks cool but is less productive.

So I remapped the left button to :HOME1 and added

<Int Name="Replace" Value="1"/>

so that it replaces the current screen with the new panel.

Then I duplicated MenuBar.xml to MenuBarV1.xml and also updates VlockscreenV1.xml to use this menubar. In this new menubar I remapped the left button to :Home2 for returning to the home lifescreen.

Now no weird behavior of the widgets. :D:D
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Nice catch, bravo again :D

Only thing is: this can work only through the menubar, no link widgets...

Uhmm... this could suggest me something.... what if I made the panels (lifestyle home, pro home and all the additional ones) available for the advanced menubars?

This could help in setting it up without the need to manually alter anything....

Even the replace parameter could be user-set according to personal taste :D

(by the way, if your additional panel is a pro panel you don't even need the link back to lifestyle screen, a swipe down gesture is enough) ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] gauravbaadshah:
Yeah that could help users.

Frankly speaking I don't like Pro panels also due to fixed background :-|

Thanks

Gk
[Windows Mobile Themes] gauravbaadshah:
Another problem.

I gave Pro panel a shot. When I tried to switch to other panel using the shortcut and then slide down to the Pro panel, that weird problem occured again since using the shortcut even once opens another window.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
That won't happen if you first reach the propanel with the replace parameter on ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] jackyaway:
Hi! i installed Vostradamus Mobile Shell Manager 5.03 on my Omnia2 for first time and it works well. I have only a little problem: i modified spb menubar with SimpleButtons (ADV20100607) and i assigned Task Manager to first button, but when i tap on screen to launch it, nothing appears. All other buttons works right, the task manager is the only one that doesn't start.

Sorry my bad english, i'm italian user.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
You need to run the "Create Shortcut -> MS Panels" once for the task manager to be enabled ;)

(Ciao compaesano!) :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] jackyaway:
Thank you!!! now it's ok :)

(grazie!!! gran bel lavoro ;) ciao!)
[Windows Mobile Themes] dansia47:
Tapping on clock widget I get a panel with the combined digital and analog clocks, with date and a back panel (screenshot attached).

I think that the analog one is the medium standard. I can’t find anywhere the digital one neither the background.

Can you help, pls?

Other question.

I created an additional pro panel (yes, the 3 pages panel for the contacts that I mentioned above) and a link to it. Then I searched some reference to it. I didn’t find any reference either on the storage or in the registry.

Where are the links to the pro panels stored to?
[Windows Mobile Themes] jotha:
You find it under "Extras"-"MS Panels" in the MS Launcher ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] jotha:
Where have you found that widget? You find all widgets that are part of MSM on the picasa-preview reachable from the first page. If the DClock is not among them (and I do not think it is, also not the Panel) it is not from MSM. Have you installed another Widget package beside MSM?
[Windows Mobile Themes] dansia47:
It is on a standard MS panel. You can reach it just tapping on analog standard clock widget or on the standard date widget.
[Windows Mobile Themes] juto1:
Thanks

For The Grate Work That Is Put Into the MSM, That's for all That Contribute.:)

Sent For A couple can's of tuna, With the name Martin from Puerto Rico.:D
[Windows Mobile Themes] shdwphnx:
I just discovered the "thin menubar" option, and love the appearance of it. However, I would like very much to change the functions of the buttons. Specifically, I want them to be "Launcher", "Show Today", "Task Manager", and "Contacts". I would appreciate any assistance in getting this changed, whether it be a new WZG file to load in, or instructions on which XML files (and sections in them) I need to modify in the QA_LAYOUTS.DAT to make the changes myself.

Regards,

Shadowpheonix
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
You're welcome! ;)

Thanks! :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Let's see... :)

- launcher - it's already there, so no prob :)

- show today - will look into it and I'll let you know ;)

- task manager - no links to "external" apps are possible in the menubar, so this is a no-go unless we're not talking about the task manager application but mobile shell task manager panel. MS task manager panel though is not active by default, so it would first require adding it to the available ones.

- contacts - already there, again no prob :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] taolaoday:
Hello Vostradamus

Thank you for new version 5, will update it later....

Sent acouple tuna cans for your cat (Confirmation Number: 91T883128Y465215F)

C Tran
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Thanks heaps :)

Hope you'll find this new version improved ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Marusaia:
Hello, Great job.

I tried to download your "MsM Full Widgets Library (VGA).wzg" but i can't extract it because the wzg is protected. can you help me?
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
you don't have to extract it manually :)

place it somewhere on your device, then run MsM, go to "Libraries" menu, pick the "import library" function and select the wzg file ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Marusaia:
o_O Thanks man, keep working like that it's perfect.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
eheh will try my best to ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] psycoy:
as always futuristic
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
lol I try to be :p
[Windows Mobile Themes] powercat1:
No worries. I'm glad you nuked it because your understanding is so much greater than mine. Your work is very appreciated.
[Windows Mobile Themes] jotha:
Still if there is something you think should be included into the FAQ, feel free to contact me. Sometimes my view on the program is a bit optimistic and I don't allways see where a newbie might have troubles. ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] ChrisGarner:
Ehi guys, i have one question for you... Is there a possibility to have a shortcut which directly open ms start menu? Like as clicking on the default start menu button...
[Windows Mobile Themes] jotha:
Try that one. Copy the file in the zip somewhere on the mobile and click it. Works with me, should also work with you.:)

You can create that links by yourself. Go inside the Manager and choose "Create Links". There choose "MS-Panels". After that you can find links to all MS-Panels under Extras/MS-Panels in Mobile Shell Launcher.
[Windows Mobile Themes] ChrisGarner:
Ehm, pardon, my bad... I mean ms like as MicroSoft, not MobileShell, so i mean Windows mobile start menu button...:o Is there a way? However thanks for the info, may be useful in future...
[Windows Mobile Themes] jotha:
Oh, sorry. Mhhm, never thought about that. Will have a look into that, but that could prove difficult, as it is outside the reach of the shell. Maybe you better post it as a separate thread in the forum, because if someone has a possibilty to create a link, it is a common link and not limited to Mobile shell. So the knowledge base would be wider if you ask for that outside this thread.;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] ChrisGarner:
Don't worry! :)

I will ask in a new thread.. But, in what section? This one?
[Windows Mobile Themes] jotha:
Yes, probably Windows mobile themes would be best. But the longer I think about it, the less probable it seems to me that this is possible. The start button is no link, but a menu-button in a application (the windows shell). So there will most probably no way to link to it, because you would have to link to a function in a program, not to a program. So good luck with this one :D. Why do you want to have it btw?
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
That one is not a widget, the Time panel is just designed that way, it's mobile shell standard :)

If you try taking a look at the xml file for the time panel you will notice that the skin for the analog clock is defined the same one as the standard clock, while the digital clock does not have any skin definition. This leads me to think that it's just hardcoded. :)

Like Jotha said, you can find links to all the additional panels in Tools -> MS Panels (Jotha wrote "Extras", I guess it can be different according to mobile shell localization) ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] jotha:
The time panel looks totally different on my phone (see pic) and I didn't change anything from stock. I have never seen the one you have there :confused:. But as Vostradamus already stated it's not a widget. Funny though that mine is so different from yours.

Edit: I remember from my first tries in skinning, that MS uses widget definitions on that page though, at least for the analog clock. When you replace the corresponding analog clock in MS (which is not recommended and no easy feat) the clock on that time panel changes too. But I think that is not the case with the digital clock.
[Windows Mobile Themes] jotha:
Of course "Extras" is "Tools" on english MS. Didn't think about localization of my phone. Sorry! Thanks Gian for correcting me ;).
[Windows Mobile Themes] dansia47:
Sorry, but I can't understand. Your pic is exactly the same than mine, exept for the colour and the language of course.
[Windows Mobile Themes] jotha:
Ahhhh, except that your numbers of the digital clock have no mirror reflection at the bottom and are in a different font and your panel is smaller in height than the analog clock, haha. So the only identical item is the analog clock.:p
[Windows Mobile Themes] dansia47:
Could'nt you add such a widget in your collection?

My english must be very bad. I already created a link to the new pro panel via Tools -> MS Panels. I thought that a .lnk file was created. I searched just that .lnk file. Why? I'd liked to edit it (i.e. in order to change its icon)
[Windows Mobile Themes] dansia47:
I must apologize. You are right. I can't understand why they are different. I did'nt change anything either.
[Windows Mobile Themes] jotha:
No, there is no lnk file. You cannot change the icon directly.

I did circumvent that problem the following way:

I created a Null-Link with the Manager. Here I changed the icon to the icon I wanted for my panel. Then I placed the Null-Link on the screen and an invisible link to the panel on top of it.

Sorry that I didn't understand your intention.

Edit: I forgot: You could change the icon with the Mobile Shell Editor from Spb. But unfortunately only to some predefined icons from Spb which are all ugly.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
You mean a left aligned digital clock with full width background? I guess it could be done... :)

lol your english is not bad at all, I just didn't get your exact meaning :p

There's no .lnk file for those panels 'cause accessing a panel via .lnk turned out to be quite slow and most users found it annoying... internal links like those ones are much faster, but with the drawback that icons can only be internal to mobile shell. :)

If you wanna try with a .lnk file though, the syntax is this:

70#"\Program Files\Spb Mobile Shell\MenuLauncher.exe" -cmd:"dlg|:HOME1"

Where of course HOME1 is different according to the panels.... all panels created by MsM have a logical name like that one: HOME1, HOME3, HOME4 and so on (no HOME2 'cause that's the standard name for lifestyle home) ;)

EDIT: of course check for the correct path to mobile shell folder... :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] dansia47:
Thanks for the suggestion, but I already did the same. Furthermore, in the new panel I added a widget to return to lifestyle home panel, again with a null-link with the icon I wanted. I'd have liked to know where the link of pro panels are stored. Anyway don't worry. You already was too kind.
[Windows Mobile Themes] dansia47:
Yes, just as the picture I attached (or the Jotha's one).

Thanks. I have just to find the name of the pro panels.
[Windows Mobile Themes] jotha:
Like Vostradamus said: The first one you created is Home1, then Home3, Home4 and so on.
[Windows Mobile Themes] dansia47:
Once again you're right. Many thanks (to Vostradamus too, of course)
[Windows Mobile Themes] jotha:
You are welcome of course.
[Windows Mobile Themes] dansia47:
Well, I created .lnk files for both my additional pro panel and home lifestyle panel. This manner I was able to assign the icons I wanted to those links, without using neither null nor invisible links. But, as Vostradamus said, they are more slow than the previous ones. So I returned to the invisible links on the null-link. Anyway, I wanted to ty.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
No harm in trying ;) At least now you're sure about it :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] viewdetails:
Hi Vostradamus!

First of all, thx for your hard work, now my Omnia II screen looks unique, and cool. :)

I would like only to inform you (may it's device specific), that the Diamond Big weather widget drops the program memory down within an hour from 50 to 15 MB. With the medium size of widget, it doesn't happening, I checked several times.

The device is Omnia II, stock JE3 ROM (WM 6.5.3), SPB 6.5.5 and the v5.03 of your program.

Another thing is, don't you plan to create a digital clock widget, which looks like a quartz watch display?
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Uhm... diamond big weather sure is a large widget and use up quite a bit of device memory, but ram is another thing.... I have the same device as you, only difference seems to be that I'm on wm 6.5, and I'm not experiencing that issue :confused:
[Windows Mobile Themes] viewdetails:
With the same device, you may noticed, the Omnia II has a "normal" memory leakage, but if I set the Diamond Big (and only this one), the memory immediately drops form 50 to 35 MB, then after an hour, cc 15 MB. Now I use the medium version, since 2 hours (with regular check) only decreased to 47MB from 48.5 MB.