yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] larryccf:
had seen the legitreviews.com page

what bothers me is sandisk tech throwing an obvious deflection at me

and seeing newegg.com today put up on their web, next shipment is due oct 22nd

like i said in another thread, engadget had a blurb about a coming memory shortage, and looking at legitreview's price for the 16GB Ultra class 4 at $59.95 last spring, today it's going for $89 at newegg, and no telling what it'll be at in Oct

got a feeling i'll regret returning the class 2 card that komputerbuy shipped, but i really don't like switcharoos pulled on a sale - doesn't give me a warm & fuzzy feeling

PS - did another search for a 16GB class 4, ended up back at sandisk's web, and on the page describing them, they quote $108.99 without describing the class, when you follow the "where to buy" link, and go to the sandisk online store - guess what - they show a class 2 16GB card AND the price is $133.95

got a feeling i'm going to settle for a 8GB class 4 if i can find it, till this price gouging is over

PS - nobody has cards - finally found a sandisk class 4 8GB, not an ultra for $27 and it was their last - sales rep guaranteed it's a class 4 though

when i asked the sales rep if there was a memory shortage - he laughed and asked what clued me
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] AllGamer:
I'm using a Transcend 16GB microSD also an Adata 16GB microSD both are Class 6, purchased in a store not on ebay.

one has most of my MP3s + Backups, the other one has my Movies + Backups

both cards are mirror of each other except for the Video Folder vs. Music Folder

Anyone know of a good microSD card test software for Android?

back then in PalmOS i used a couple of cool apps that was very accurate, can't find anything similar for Android
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Jabbypants:
I have a class 6 8gb card and a class 2 16gb card and everything plays the same on both all the difference is the class, higher the class the faster it transfers from pc to the phone.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] tkalli:
Amazon.com has SanDisk Ultra 16GB Class 4

EDIT: Links removed, as wrong memory cards.

Sorry

:o

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[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] AllGamer:
i wonder if this one is real

32GB microSD Kingston High Speed SDHC Class 8

http://cgi.ebay.ca/32GB-microSD-Kin...em&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_23&hash=item2eae89edb7
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] AllGamer:
here is an OK one if you don't mind the brand

TopRAM started as a Generic SD brand, but they have worked up their way, and now they are available in many retail store.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/TOPRAM-32GB-32G-...C_Drives_Storage_Internal&hash=item5adabb5946

personally i still don't trust that brand, but it's an authentical class 4, unlike these fake SanDisk class 2

http://cgi.ebay.ca/32GB-Micro-SD-Mi..._Electronics_Memory_Cards&hash=item41515be7a6
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Beards:
Don't touch it..... Read here for further information.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] larryccf:
first - that link is to a SDHC card - we need micro SDHC for our phones

i ordered two "class 4" sandisk micro SDHC, one from an amazon retailer (a sandisk recommended authorized dealer) and the other also a sandisk recommended dealer

both came in and were class 2 - when i called sandisk the rep tried to assure me that it was okay but would never answer the simple question "are you telling me sandisk's class 2 and class 4 cards are both running the same speeds write & read?" - he kept giving me the most frustrating who's on first, what's on second answer

finally spoke to someone at newegg - there is a memory shortage right now and they're trying to move out old inventory

just as a word of caution​
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] hihihehe:
i got my sandisk micro sdhc mobile ultra 16gb class 4 from malaysia

but not sure is fast or not..
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] tkalli:
Your right, sorry for the wrong links.

Links removed.

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[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] trancelated:
this one's good:

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/195142
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Beards:
No it's not..... It's over priced, over rated and quite slow in comparison to the much cheaper Sandisk Class 4 16gb Mobile Ultra.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] *@_@*:
SanDisk® microSDHC™ Memory Cards 8GB

what about this one : SanDisk® microSDHC™ Memory Cards 8GB

and what class is it ?
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[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Eienkei:
Anybody knows a good website/ebay seller who ships worldwide & sells at good price?
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] AllGamer:
definitely over priced

just go to a local computer store, ask for a 16GB micro SD class 4 or above, and you'll get better prices than the one you found on that website
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] trancelated:
my bad, didn't check thoroughly before posting that. Are you sure that the class 10 is slower than class 4 16 gigs card?
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Beards:
In this particular case yes. Irrespective of class numbers, Kingston cards are not noted for their speed.

The Sandisk Mobile Ultra on the other hand wipes the floor on quite a few cards including some decent class 6.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] EarlZ:
I dont have an i9000 yet but I do have a Samsung Wave, I got a 8GB class 2 from sandisk and 16GB class 6 from Team elite.. doing a benchmark of the cards in the phone gives a very identical number give or take ~1% difference.

On the Galaxy S, would those Sandisk Mobile Ultra give a better performance on read speeds compared to other class 2/4/6 cards?
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] *@_@*:
can any body help me :(
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Beards:
Without a shadow of doubt a Mobile Ultra will be faster than most other class cards.

Again you too would be better looking at a Sandisk Mobile Ultra card.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] EarlZ:
I would agree on that one, even a regular sandisk class 2 is just as fast as the team elite 16GB class 6, but is the speed difference on the sandisk noticable on the Galaxy S ? because on the wave there is no difference at all..
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Beards:
When using the phone to utilize the card i.e. taking a video, watching all your movies, photo's etc you won't find any drop in speed, nor will you notice any lag.

The only time you find any difference in speed is when transferring data by USB to and from the card but even then it's not slow by any means.

I have several cards but the Mobile Ultra without question performs the best.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] EarlZ:
Im a little bit confused on your resposne, are you saying that the Mobile Ultra or any other card performs at a very identical speed when it is utilized in-phone but the difference is when using it by USB card reader ?

And if you have time, could you post a Crystal Disk Mark 3.0 results of your Sandisk Ultra In-Phone performance, thanks!
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Beards:
Sorry no.... The Mobile Ultra is the better performer at BOTH internal use (playing videos etc) and USB file transfer.

It's just that when you look at the internal transfer there's little to separate good cards with the Ultra. In other words there's little to separate the cards.

The USB file transfer is more noticeable where you start to see these cards slowing up.... but again it performed better than most other cards.

As to testing, I don't have Crystal Disk installed but can do it later (will have to be after the weekend as I am away doing lectures).

However, I do have installed on the Galaxy S 'SD Card Speed Test' and it gave results of Read 10MB/s & Write 7MB/s and classing it Class 6.

You can download this testing app on the Market.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] patchirl:
So whats the cheapest card which will work well in the phone?

The cheapest brands will work well in the phone provided im willing to wait a couple of minutes longer for any usb transfers?
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] AllGamer:
16GB are the best bang for the bucks

32GB if you don't mind spending $140+
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Seyiji:
A comment on the "SD Card Speed Tester" apps market page says that said app cannot differentiate between the internal and external sd cards on the Galaxy S :\
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] EarlZ:
Ok, but when you have the time to install crystal disk bench please update us. Thanks!
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] deastr:
I have question about video recording and card speeds. I'd like to record 720p videos, to the external card if possible. This one says that it has 7MB/s write speed:

32GB Sandisk microSDHC memory card

memoryc.com/flashmemorycards/sdsecuredigital/32gbsandiskmicrosdhccl2.html

Would this be enough? Or should I go for this, which has 9MB/s write speed:

Sandisk 16GB Ultra Micro SD Card

lowpricememory.co.uk/sandisk-16gb-ultra-micro-sd-card-c-29-p-292

If 32gb's speed is not enough, can I just record 720p to the internal memory?
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Beards:
The Sandisk 32GB is fast enough....

My Brother has one and I tried it a couple of weeks back and had no trouble recording to the card and watching a movie was equally fine.

You can get it cheaper though at MobileFun.

I've been thinking of getting one to complement my Sandisk Mobile Ultra 16GB.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Beards:
Okay, here's the results from CrystalDiskMark 3.0 x64

Tests were ran 5 Passes, 50MB selected, All sections ran.

Sandisk 16GB Mobile Ulta

Test........Read [MB/s].......Write [MB/s]

Seq.........17.68................11.15

512K.......18.83.................4.255

4K...........4.153.................0.525

4K QD32...5.433................0.510

Internal SDCard 5919MB Remain

Test......Read [MB/s]..........Write [MB/s]

Seq.........18.70.................6.23

512K........20.01.................2.726

4K............4.244................0.230

4K QD32...4.787.................0.231

Interesting tests.... Not much between the Sandisk card and the internal memory.

However, what was interesting was in the 512K, 4K & 4K QD32 Write tests the Sandisk card was nearly twice as fast.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] EarlZ:
Thanks, that data will be my basis on a SD card purchase.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] mbr01:
I'd thougt i'd join you guys in this discussion, as i've been doing some research as well. I ended up buying a Kingston 16GB class 2 card. My philosophy was, to buy a 16GB card from the manufacturer that didn't seperate too much between classes. From Kingston i've only seen a 2 speed and a 10 speed card, so big chance that the 2 speed would perform pretty well. BTW, those class ratings really suck, hearing the phone call stories two pages back ("so class 2 is class 4 mr Sandisk? Can't tell you ;)") and given the bench results i'v seen on many websites.

So I did the CrystalDiskMark 3.0 test (xp, 32bit). Here the results:

Kingston 16GB Class 2

Test........Read [MB/s].......Write [MB/s]

Seq.........18.37................5.994

512K.......18.33.................3.101

4K...........4.909.................0.499

4K QD32...5.727................0.539

Based on a real world sequential transfer, a 700MB video file, a have a write speed of 6.6MB/s and a read speed of 19.5 MB/s. Not bad for a 35 Euro card.

I'd like to see more people perform this CrystalDiskMark 3.0, just google for it.

Edit: I hear people asking what kind of card they should buy to be able to play or reacord video, well any card is good. The video recorded by your SGS is on average 22mbit, so tha's about 3MB/s, that's also most likely the heaviest videofile (datarate wise) you'll be playing. All the cards are able to do a sequential read/write 3MB/s, even the 'modest' class 2 cards.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] glassdarkly:
Crystaldiskmark seems a bit inconsistent - I've seen people post results using regular class 2 and class 4 sandisk mobile ultras, and the 4K speeds are always 0.01-0.05MB/s.

Additionally, I got a friend to test his Galaxy S's internal storage and he got 4MB/s for 4K speed (see attachment).

Does anyone know why the values fluctuate so much?
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Kangal:
I wonder if the SD commitee will increase SDHC category for microSD cards from 32GB to 64GB.

I just want to buy 1x Class 10 microSD card with 64GB (enough for all my music + emulator roms). That way it will serve me for a decent number of years on many devices, eg hopefully a tablet like the Advent Vega.

The only thing I won't be able to fit into it is Apps and Videos ...but I would probably delete some PSX images and make room :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Beards:
No.... The SDHC max is 32GB at that point SDXC continues.

However, the SGS is not SDXC compatible.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] 2dorr:
I bought a Lexar 16 gb Class 6 from ebay with 44 dollars. I read Lexar is a good producer of memory cards.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Lexar-16GB-16G-...213202?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3a5fd9cfd2
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] paulomario77:
A-DATA Class 6 numbers

Hello all,

I'm using an A-DATA Class 6 16GB micro SDHC card. Here are some numbers from SD Card Speed Test application:

Buffer = 1MB

Read: 13MB/s

Write: 7MB/s

Buffer = 4MB

Read: 13MB/s

Write: 7MB/s

Buffer = 9MB

Read: 12MB/s

Write: 6MB/s

A-DATA P/N is AUSDH16GCL6-RA1. Note that tests were conducted on the SGS.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] EarlZ:
Has anyone purchased the 32GB Class 2 MicroSD from Amazon? Its currently at $83 and I understand sandisk under rates their cards Im wondering if this class2 card can write over 10mb/s
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] shorty083:
I got a SanDisk 32gb class 2 card from ebay and mine fluctuates around 6 mb/s.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Rawat:
Recently ordered this one: http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/...icro-SD-Plus-Memory-Card-Class-6/Product.html

It was dispatched a few days ago, was hoping I'd get it yesterday, but I think I'll receive it later today.

It's only an 8giger, but I have the 16GB 14GB SGS, and don't need much more space (for now). I'll probably upgrade to a 32GB when the prices go down, and I can get a fast decent branded card for a reliable retailer.

EDIT: Urgh, paid £13.50 for it :(, and it's only £12.99 at the moment
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] xufos:
Bought V-Gen 32 GB class 2 for $68. I think is a local brand (Indonesia). http://v-genmemory.com/main/productlist/2. Works well on 720p video recording. Tested using J Bench Mark 1.0.

V-Gen 32GB class 2 - screenshot

50MB/2KB = 1.89 W / 3.22 R

V-Gen 32GB class 2 - screenshot

50MB/8KB = 4.19 W / 11.78 R

for comparison:

Internal NAND

50MB/2KB = 1.8 W / 2.79 R

Internal NAND

50MB/8KB = 5.73 W / 9.97 R
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] hurrakan:
I think some people bench the card on the desktop, some bench on the phone (via USB or whatever).
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Naeem786:
i have a ADATA 32GB Class 4 Card and its working well for me
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] junk3r43:
A-data 16gb Class10

A bought a Class10 microsd form A-data, the reading speeds are very good but i'm concerned about writing speeds thar are very low on 4k and less files. The tests were made with the phone connected to USB port not with card reader, with card reader I receive better speeds in writing area(~18mb/s).

I9000 2.3.3 Darky 10.1 ext4 fully enabled.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] spaz926:
ADATA 32GB Class10

I found a 32GB Class10 MicroSDHC from Newegg for $71.99. What do you think about this one? You can find it by going to Newegg and searching for Item#: N82E16820211558.

I'm looking to upgrade my 2GB to at least a 16, but this 32 looks nice.

Please give me your thought, thanks.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] SpaZzzzz:
i bought a class 6 microSD and when it is connected directly to my pc thru a card reader it is actually a class 11 (11MBps).

but when i connect my phone to the pc then it drops to a 4MBps speed... im pretty sure it is the microUSB's fault...

anyhow, it seems u dont need a better class than class-4, if ur pupose is for fast writing/reading while transferring files to and from ur pc.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] X1pheR:
How about recording 720p on the SGS? I think that's the highest demanding use when doing things on the phone itself right? Which class/brand should be best in that case?
[Android Apps and Games] carameljm:
Can anyone upload the gist apk?

I do not find it on the market.

http://blog.gist.com/2010/05/26/gist-for-android-arrives/
[Android Apps and Games] o4kareg:
here you are
[Android Apps and Games] p.davis:
gist app

I'm having the same problem and appinstaller can't install your file...
[Android Apps and Games] p.davis:
Found a other one that works :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Qlutech:
Is there any cab, or registry change,

Which can turn G-Sensor off during a call? : )

Grt.z
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] slimslim:
Since I only use autorotation when the keyboard is out, I disable it myself. If you want to do it from registry, this is how you can:

go to:

“HKEY_CURRENT_USER (HKCU) \\ Software \ HTC \ HTCSENSOR \ GSensor \"

and

Set <AutoRotation> to 0

the trade off is you'll lose the autorotation in IE, Opera, and the other programs.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] faredino:
...Using internal GPS on a Touch Cruise (Polaris),

I tested GPS SPEEDO...look great but unfortunately it doesn't work on my phone...

I also tried MDNAVMOBILE and it works very well... but speed is visualized in too small character...

Anyone know another SIMPLE and CLEAR app to visualize the gps speed in knots?

Thank you everybody
[Windows Mobile Software Development] stephj:
Have a look at the second post in this thread.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=689518

It currently just displays the speed in MPH as per the GPSAPI interface.

I'll add a Knots converter to it. Watch this space............

Done it! Try this.... Use the Units Menu option to toggle between MPH and Knots.

Uses the hard coded conversion factor of 1.15077945
[Hero CDMA General] HeroMeng:
I'm wondering how to flash back to the stock 1.56 hboot. I was one of those who ran the test-keys RUU about two months ago and have the newer hboot...
[Hero CDMA General] Kcarpenter:
You can't, HBOOT's can't be downgraded.
[Hero CDMA General] danknee:
Not true. As long as you have root you can restore your hboot from 1.47 back to 1.41.

Tested and confirmed that this works on my own phone. I am attaching a .zip that you need to run in recovery. You will be prompted to reboot your phone after this runs, then your hboot will be restored to 1.41.

Props to another user here that put individual pieces of the stock .ruu into flashable zip files.
[Hero CDMA General] HeroMeng:
Thank you SO much :)
[Hero CDMA General] regaw_leinad:
That's from the RUU,

now in the newer RUU's the hboot is not a .img file... its a .nb0 or something, so you can't just directly flash it :(
[Hero CDMA General] danknee:
If you had a custom recovery and root (still impossible on official 2.1 ruu build) you could simply flash the older hboot.
[Hero CDMA General] regaw_leinad:
Oh i know, I was just saying that if we theoretically wanted to upgrade our hboot lol
[Hero CDMA General] HeroMeng:
I flashed the hboot update.zip above and tried to RUU back to 1.56 and I got an error.
[Hero CDMA General] regaw_leinad:
Are you on a custom rom?

Please post you're build prop in a pastebin link. I'll help you out.
[Hero CDMA General] danknee:
Now that you have stock hboot use method one here >> http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=657086.

Otherwise, use method two from that same thread.

For your sake I hope you don't end up with an official 2.1 ROM phone, if you are ruu'ing to send the phone in for your battery issue.
[Hero CDMA General] HeroMeng:
Same here... If I do end up with a 2.1 phone, I'll be stuck unrooted till October.
[Hero CDMA General] HeroMeng:
http://pastebin.com/8i65vXCL

Thanks!

Evidenced by the build.prop, I'm on DarchDroid.
[Hero CDMA General] regaw_leinad:
rename the attchment to build.prop then

adb remount
adb push build.prop /system
adb sync
adb reboot

then try running the RUU again. This is worth a try.
[Hero CDMA General] HeroMeng:
Ok... thanks for your help. Will try again... after a nandroid /facepalm
[Hero CDMA General] regaw_leinad:
All i did was change your build.prop version # down to that of the RUU, since it compares number's w/ the zip it flashes.
[Hero CDMA General] HeroMeng:
Makes sense. If this works, going in for a replacement... might join the fight for rooted 2.1 with you :)

EDIT: I mean I might HAVE to join the fight for rooted 2.1. Not a choice I want to choose :P
[Hero CDMA General] HeroMeng:
Same error with your build.prop.
[Hero CDMA General] regaw_leinad:
ok, you know how to get the rom.zip from that ruu?

grab the rom.zip and run the commands like the RUU does. It should give a better error message.... well hopefully lol

grab the rom.zip. put it in your tools folder of your sdk. open a cmd window there.

then type (with your phone plugged in)

adb shell reboot oem-78

this will boot to a HTC screen

then type

fastboot flash zip rom.zip

now it should start the sending of the zip to your phone, and it will display everything in the console of the status.

then when it finishes, type

fastboot reboot

that is the exact same thing as running the RUU. try that and see what error it gives you.
[Hero CDMA General] HeroMeng:
Ok... doing it now.
[Hero CDMA General] HeroMeng:
Got an error again... here's what it gave me.

Kevin-2:tools kevinsimac$ ./fastboot flash zip ./rom.zip
sending 'zip' (104813 KB)... OKAY
writing 'zip'... INFOadopting the signature contained in this image...
INFOsignature checking...
INFOzip header checking...
INFOzip info parsing...
INFOchecking model ID...
INFOchecking custom ID...
INFOchecking main version...
FAILED (remote: 43 main version check fail)
Kevin-2:tools kevinsimac$ ./fastboot reboot
rebooting...
Kevin-2:tools kevinsimac$
[Hero CDMA General] regaw_leinad:
ok. the fix i made to the build.prop should have fixed that....

I'll check it out again.

can you do this and post here

adb shell getprop ro.build.description
[Hero CDMA General] HeroMeng:
It says 1.56.651.2.... I have no idea what's wrong with that.
[Hero CDMA General] HeroMeng:
I ran adb shell setprop ro.build.description 1.56.651.2 and then tried the "method one" on one of the pages behind... I'll edit this post with the results.

EDIT: It failed. "Main Version is older!"
[Hero CDMA General] regaw_leinad:
cool. glad you got it working.
[Hero CDMA General] HeroMeng:
Nope, said "main version is older". Gonna try running the "no root nandroid" a few pages back and try the RUU again.... worth a try.
[Hero CDMA General] Kcarpenter:
A) I have been proven wrong...Kudos - you are the first ever. :D

B) I wonder if these changes in the new RUU are strategic design changes or just to keep out/piss off the h@x0rs
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Joe_PDA:
I've got a TP 1 that has been a loyal companion for about 2 years now. During a recent trip to Asia, the keyboard suffered some dead spots. I brought it to one of these amazing tech places where guys with oscilliscopes and soldering irons, fixed it about 85%.

When I went to Hong Kong looking for a replacement pone, one salesman told me HTC is discontinuing the slide out physical keyboard. Is this true? All the phones they had were Iphone like.

Anyone know about this?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] gromky:
I'm frustrated with the stock WM on my Touch Pro2 and want to upgrade. However, I want to keep the old image "just in case". I've backed up my settings, texts, and such, but still I feel paranoid that something, somewhere, will go wrong and I'll lose it all. I have a version of WM that natively supports Asian languages using both Pinyin and handwriting input, and I get the feeling that whatever rom I choose will be Western-specific.

How can I make a backup of the complete operating environment? An image file? How to do this?