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[Desire Android Development] rPAD:
Well i think i solved it (but i dont know why)

If you upgrade to defrost 6.1a from 6.1 market works

If you do a clean install of 6.1a, market doesn't work!
[Desire Android Development] Mabili:
Market works fine but have problems with Gmail. Can't open it and get a forced close. Remove gmail and reinstall it solved this problem but give me the older market to.. Did the rom update without a full wipe.
[Desire Android Development] Leyths:
I didn't wipe when upgrading and I'm getting market FC
[Desire Android Development] zeka001:
I upgrade from 6.1 and the market doesn´t work...

Edit: I didn´t wipe
[Desire Android Development] Large Hadron:
Upgraded without wipe. Had market problems, but a reboot and new market working fine.
[Desire Android Development] zeka001:
didn´t work for me.
[Desire Android Development] diggedy:
just to break the trend I updated from 6.1 without wipe and I have no market issues. I never install another kernel though, I always stick with the one that comes with the rom. Just mentioning in case thats whats causing people issues
[Desire Android Development] zigson:
No gmail LED notifications on 6.1 for me
[Desire Android Development] kwaille:
Same for me but fc every time...

I force installed yesterday with an update .zip and the market was fine...

Now I installed 6.1a on it and no more market!!:)
[Desire Android Development] hajen78:
Well i have no problem with market, didnt do a wipe.
[Desire Android Development] louisebb:
Market works. Do the samething as rPAD, 6.1 to 6.1a without wipe.
[Desire Android Development] luki4:
I have problems with the Market. I did do full wipe.
[Desire Android Development] julian.kueh:
Hey everyone. Since running 6.1 my battery has been taking a caning. Overnight my phone is dead within 6 hrs from 25% remaining. Previously I'd only lose 3% over the same idle period. I ran a 5 minutely current widget log overnight and it says that it's draining 4%/hr and the only app constantly running is Google android input method. What can I do about this please.

Sent from my Desire running HD Rom.
[Desire Android Development] richardtrip:
Market problems...

If you have Market problems you can flash the old one from defrost setup. You can also try to clean the application cache and settings (same for gmail). Menu, Settings, Applications, Manage Applications, All, Market (or gmail), clean cache and clean settings.
[Desire Android Development] fatspirit:
I have no market problems, maybe because i've downloaded new market mod on 6.1 and then upgraded to 6.1a. Without wipes of any kind.
[Desire Android Development] chris2busy:
force colses are usually solved with a simple permission fix from rom manager mates :) hope i helped..
[Desire Android Development] Latty:
I flashed 6.1a over 6.1, and my led isn't lighting up at all, either for sms or charging
[Desire Android Development] Milamber:
Please can somone test 6.1se HAVS 1113 925 CFS kernal and check that I'm not seeing things :eek:

I had a 6% drop in 7 hours (whilst asleep) with wifi, full sync on email and fb but setcpu was set to smartass 245mhz when screen was off. :)
[Desire Android Development] braaaii:
Thx. Nice one.
[Desire Android Development] @ngel:
Sorry for the delay, mate.

I have flashed AplhaRev's DATA++ HBOOT; I don't consider DATA2SD implementations still stable enough to be used for everyday work.

Regarding battery drain issues, my findings are that the only responsible (leaving out obvious mistakes like leaving Skype active or so) is the "suspend" system process, that is able to suck up 5%+ of battery juice per hour of standby.

And my experience is that this process isn't invoked at all if the Desire display is switched off manually using the power button, rather than relying on the screen timeout. Doing so, results in a nearly flat JuicePlotter graph overnight, even with all radios switched on (BT, WiFi, 3G), synchronizing data all the time (Gmail, Tweetdeck, Google Talk, meteo) and having a live wallpaper (Flurry, in my case).

Hope this helps.
[Desire Android Development] giese9:
same problem here
[Desire Android Development] Ivanovic:
Blufrost theme keeps breaking fm radio function
[Desire Android Development] hajen78:
I have had data2sd for some time now and i think it is very stable, and i have upgraded to every new defrost upgrad, with the script that iinga have made and it works great ;)
[Desire Android Development] braaaii:
6.1a is slower than the 6.1...

6.1a

quadrant

1 1307

2 1445

3 1267

4 1455

5 1398

6.1

quadrant

1 1483

2 1471

3 1467

4 1487

5 1444
[Desire Android Development] hajen78:
I stil score 1900+ with both 6.1 and 6.1a, i think you have some app running or something like that.
[Desire Android Development] Milamber:
Fix for gmail force closes:

Settings > Applications > Manage Applications > All > Gmail > Clear Data

This fixed my issues :)

I just tested my LED and I have come from Defrost 6.1 and my LED works when charging (orange LED) but not when when recieving an email.
[Desire Android Development] bisko:
Ok, the market is bugged on 6.1a... Even after flashing the Old market I still get FCs due to :

Permission Denial: writing com.google.android.gsf.settings.GoogleSettingsProvider uri content://com.google.settings/partner from pid=1671, uid=10049 requires com.google.android.providers.settings.permission.WRITE_GSETTINGS

Even after wipe, clearing all the system folders with rm -rf through recovery - the same. Will try to go from 6.1 to 6.1a now.
[Desire Android Development] Milamber:
I hear what your saying but, I dont get this issue at all. I just cleared market data via settings.
[Desire Android Development] bisko:
Well I cleared all I could - Gmail, youtube, market ... installed old market, cleared again - rain of FC's

----------------------

Ok, problem solved - Installed 6.1 after a full wipe, waited for sync of apps. Installed 6.1a - All fine :)
[Desire Android Development] zigson:
On 6.1 LED is OK for me when charging but definitely not working for emails and texts.
[Desire Android Development] Latty:
Flashed back to 6.1 and the LED notifications are working again
[Desire Android Development] paprkut:
Also having the same problem with.the led notification s
[Desire Android Development] chris2busy:
the solution to the problem is on my post on the previous page..
[Desire Android Development] nitrox1:
Hi All,

I noticed the Defy's music apk is available. It really is cool. and well worth a try.

But please backup before trying just in case.

It doesn't have a graphics equaliser, however the lyrics make up for it.

It can be found here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=838346&page=2

It's working well on Defrost 6.1
[Desire Android Development] m0nji:
if someone have problems with usb connections since 6.1a, try to clear "media storage" cache in settings -> applications -> manage applications -> all -> media storage
[Desire Android Development] redlabour:
Never seen a faster Release then 6.1a and i have 40 MByte more space free. @Richard dont know what happens but this is very cool. ^^
[Desire Android Development] Narada2XK:
Idk but the LED doesn't even work when charging since the 6.1a update...not cool.
[Desire Android Development] Narada2XK:
The wifi drops out sometimes. Before the 6.1a update and used the se firmware, I lost wifi completely and it showed error in the wireless menu.
[Desire Android Development] hajen78:
flash the kernel again and it will come back ;)

I have lost 4% power in 8h that is pretty good ;)
[Desire Android Development] hajen78:
My led works fine when charging, and it light up blue when i get a sms. Havent tried with mail yet.

Edit* the led also works fine with mail.
[Desire Android Development] Fllip:
When i do restat after first boot, the home button dosnt work. Also all seting is lost and cannot setup it again.
[Desire Android Development] redrum781:
Everything fine for me, except htc flashlight doesn't light up the flash led. Flash led is working when I take photos. Latest rom with havs bfs 875 latest.

EDIT: no led notification as well
[Desire Android Development] Narada2XK:
Yeah, that much I knew but there was an order to doing it. I just reverted in the end. Didn't have any complaints with the new rom until I noticed no LED when charging.
[Desire Android Development] Pace17881:
Hi there

Since i flashed Defrost 6.1 on my HTC Desire, i'm experiencing following issues.

1. The notification led for SMS/MMS etc. blinks now red and not green.

2. If recharging the battery the led comes green an charging progress is by 91%

Whats the problem?
[Desire Android Development] Galaid:
I've opened up a case about flash videos not working so please vote so it's get fixed sooner than later. Thanks.

https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-5909

I'm running Defrost 6.0e but it's present on all ROMS.
[Desire Android Development] hajen78:
Cant do that because it works fine on my phone ;)
[Desire Android Development] huurux:
when i recive message my led is not working,new market works and looks great ,battery is very good with 6.1se havs 1113 mhz cfs 875mv but the led is on all the time when battery goes under 15%

thank u great work richard..
[Desire Android Development] qasq:
I got market issues, don't really know why. After clearing it's data, and after reboot - phone hangs at Nexus logo but - it goes well (smooth "X" animation), than at about 2min animation freezes for a sec, and then its endless loop, with laggin. I can go into recovery, I done couple of times - wipe/factory, wipe cache, wipe dalvik - not good at all, still same issue. I thought maybe its normal, as sometimes after wiping its just need to take some time - I left phone with charger for all night, now I look and - still loop at X logo. I did this for a couple of times.

Now with "new" things I did to this rom - is with the Onlike Kitchen, I inserted new battery percentage. I think I did everything well, but maybe thats the case ? Also, I have 4GB card, with 512MB ext3 - is that good for this rom? Ah, one more thing - phones freezes both with/without sd-card. Should I bother more, or just flash another rom ?
[Desire Android Development] shokwaav:
How does one install data2ext? Maybe Richard could introduce it into 6.2?
[Desire Android Development] yeahimdukenukem:
Ext2, Ext3, Ext4

Hi all,

I'm a bit confused about the file system for apps2sd+.

It seems that mostly ext3 is recommended, but as a journaling file system, it would reduce the lifetime of the sd card. So wouldn't be ext2 the better one then? Or are there any other advantages of ext3? And what about ext4? Wouldn't this be even better than ext3 if the journaling is not a problem?

For the moment I think ext2 would be the best choice, please let me know if I'm right or completely wrong and which one is the best for DeFrost.

Thanks very much :)
[Desire Android Development] jmelhus:
Install flash player from market ;)
[Desire Android Development] devil-kin:
What does the wifi module do, exactly? It's not entirely clear to me... :/
[Desire Android Development] stupiduglyllama:
My LED notifications seem to have disappeared with 6.1a.. literally just updated 10 mins ago from 6.1.
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
Whats the version number of the new Market?

Would like to look up what is new.
[Desire Android Development] richardtrip:
Update:

Version 6.1a (reuploaded):

*fixed flashlight

*New Market (flashable)

*New Youtube

*New Gmail

*couple of cyanogenmod fixes (camera)

*new base kernel 6.1se svs 1113 CFS (reuploaded all flashable kernels + new nosleep wifi module)
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
Ah nevermind then....

Yeah I had teh gmail app anyway. Didn't sync read status to server.

Guess the market has been rushed through by google too.
[Desire Android Development] rPAD:
no need to go to ext4 when ext3 has everything you need. I use 3 because im not worried about the life of my sdcard (im sure it's not that big a deal)
[Desire Android Development] EViollet:
DeFrost vs CyanogenMod kernel

Hi Richard.

I was wondering... what are the differences between the CyanogenMod kernel and the DeFrost kernel you maintain? Are the differences mainly in the configuration/optimisation?

In advance, thanks.

Regards,
[Desire Android Development] crapula512:
thats a pretty poor advice, ext4 is better than ext3 with no drawbacks so there is no reason to make an ext3 partition under any circumstance (no matter if its a pc or a phone) as long as its supported in your system.

it might be possible than an ext4 partition will increase the wear in the sd card but you have to put it in context, with constant write (24x7) you will probably need a few years of constant write to kill a flash device. thats why nowadays flash drive usually come with 5 or 10 years warranty.

So, are you planning on using your card in 30 years? if not, move to ext4.
[Desire Android Development] yeahimdukenukem:
That's a good point, thank you. :)

Does DeFrost support ext4?
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
Yes it does.
[Desire Android Development] nitrox1:
Cyanogen tweeted that he isn't going to support data2ext.

Desire is the source of all suffering.
[Desire Android Development] rPAD:
Ok well, lets put it this way, just cause something is newer and has extra features doesnt mean u have to jump on it. Example XP to VISTA. The major reason ext4 was developed was because it's a bit faster and mostly because of larger file systems.

"Because delayed allocation changes the behavior that programmers have been relying on with ext3, the feature poses some additional risk of data loss in cases where the system crashes or loses power before all of the data has been written to disk" - wikipedia

and even though it was correct in kernel 2.6.30 and above doesnt mean it still can't happen

"No other filesystem is perfect in terms of data loss either, although the probability of data loss is lower on ext3." - wikipedia

So, choose ext3 for reliability. thats something it has over ext4.
[Desire Android Development] redrum781:
Thanks Richard, leds are now working again (flash led with htc flashlight and notification leds).

I've noticed though that the old market is in the rom. Gmail FC, after a cache/data clear working again. Market had updates for titanium and gmail.

Everything running smoothly with havs bfs 875
[Desire Android Development] markrs:
At the moment I have read it is not stable, but in the long run it seems a good feature to improve performance, so a bit strange to have decided not to support it. But then I am still waiting for USB host and I doubt that is ever going to be built into the rom either.
[Desire Android Development] devil-kin:
Finally got the new market working - upgraded to DF6.1a, fix perms (with rom manager), nandroid, flash new market, done.
[Desire Android Development] crapula512:
i wont argue about ext3 vs ext4 as i dont see the point in that.

check all major distros recomended FS regarding ext3 vs ext4, check the theodore tso opinion, and check the kernel adviced FS since ext4 support has been merged.

if you want to discuss about ext3 been a better choice than ext4, i think you can do it here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=800353
[Desire Android Development] lvnatic:
I flashed the new updated 6.1a ROM and I still can't acces the Market/Gmail app. Do I still need to wipe all the data before flashing even if I come from basicly the same ROM? I'm a bit lazy to set all my settings all over again.

LE: I managed to run the Market (old version in the new 6.1a reupload) after a permission fix in ROM Manager, but it still FCs randomly, tho I can search and download apps. Could it be from the old ROM cause I didn't wipe? Also Gmail is still not working at all, FC as soon as I run it.
[Desire Android Development] rPAD:
im not arguing. im just stating my opinion. My opinion only holds true for the way i use my smartphone. If i were to install linux , id go with ext4
[Desire Android Development] sdjensen:
After upgrading to 6.1 I have an issue with sync to Microsoft Exchange.

When I am using our company WiFi for data connection I get an error when trying to sync my Microsoft Exchange Account. It is working perfectly (setup with push) when I am using a 3g connection but not when I am connected to the WiFi at work?

Have anyone experienced anything like this and anyone whom has a solution?
[Desire Android Development] hide0us:
New market fails to open in 6.1a

I never managed to run Market after installing the new rom. I tried every possible workaround. Nothing works. Hope this flaw will be taken care of in the next update.
[Desire Android Development] yeahimdukenukem:
So I've read through the whole thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=800353

Result:

ext2: fast, less write cycles, longer sd card lifetime

ext3: ext2 but with journaling, seems completely useless for NAND storage devices

ext4: a bit slower than ext2 and better on disc drives, but not on NANDs

So I think I would use ext2.

DeFrost supports that? Or does it need at least ext3?
[Desire Android Development] braaaii:
I want to make my desire with defrost much faster without overheating the CPU or bricking my phone. How can I do that??

My quadrant score is around 1400

I use the radio in my signature xx.xx.14 the recomended one.

Defrost 6.1a

Witch steps do i need to take to get a quadrant 1700-2000+ ??
[Desire Android Development] chris2busy:
run it 3 times...the first run ALWAYS lower because the cpu tests are first and the cpu hasnt fully scaled on all of em..
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
Are you overclocking with setcpu or similar?
[Desire Android Development] EViollet:
Yes. DeFrost supports ext2.

No problemo
[Desire Android Development] braaaii:
@chris2busy: Thats why I wrote around. Ive done it 5 times :)

@danfrance: similar.. (locked 245-998)
[Desire Android Development] discohero11:
Why do you need/want quadrant 1700-2000+?

Just ran Quadrant on 6.1a (1113MHz HAVS 825mV BFS) using Performance governor (245-1113) and the max I got was 1748 after a couple of runs.
[Desire Android Development] braaaii:
The quadrant was an indication the faster it will be the better :)

Ok, I'm going to test it and post the result.

Can't your CPU be overheated when you do this?

##UPDATE##

This is without the adjustments with CPU manager.

-------------

Defrost 6.1a

@ kernel 2.6.35.7 #456

radio 32.48....5.11.05.14

quadrant

1 1472

2 1559

3 1593

4 1362

5 1623
[Desire Android Development] scatterface:
A faster quadrant score doesn't translate to a noticeable difference in day to day use though. Plus the 2000+ scores usually exploit the faster i/o of data2sd, which is only really relevant for quadrant scores. In practice they don't really mean much.

Sent from my ZX Spectrum +2 using 128k BASIC
[Desire Android Development] braaaii:
Ok. Thank you
[Desire Android Development] discohero11:
Higher Quadrant != "Faster"

I find ROMs are either laggy or not. I remember testing some ROM that scored 2000+ on quadrant and it was laggy as hell. There is no practical application for faster speed on a phone so I actually underclock and undervolt to squeeze out as much battery as possible while maintaining snappiness.

P.S. 1633 @ 998

EDIT: I wonder if there is a way to check/rank ROMs based on number of I/O requests they make to SD card (when using APP2SD+). I am no expert (by any stretch of imagination) but I imagine that would have quite an impact on battery life and, perhaps, performance with slower SD cards.

EDIT 2: Is anybody else using Bloomber app on 6.1a? On mine it opens, freezes the phone for a bit and FC all the time. Bloomberg app is anything but a great example fast/optimized code but I use it quite a bit.
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
Yeah you'd need to overclock to get the scores you were refering to.

the kernel is undervolted so when overclocked, its running on the same voltage as stock, so no extra heat will be generated.
[Desire Android Development] danarama:
Market works on 6.1 (not a) as a flashable app just fine for me.
[Desire Android Development] braaaii:
Thx. I didn't know that :)
[Desire Android Development] EViollet:
Just answering myself... I see HAVS as the main (only?) difference.

Is this correct?

Regards,
[Desire Android Development] BriEE:
Richard, did you have a chance to take a look at my logs for the battery consumption? I flashed your SE kernel and using 6.1 currently and still it drains 4-5% per hour sleeping. I'm really not sure what's going on but the power tutor shows system still taking up most battery.

Could it be because I have a screen off profile in setcpu? it's at 245-245 ondemand
[Desire Android Development] EViollet:
What is your main governor? From what I see, the system doesn't like CPU governor switching.

Does your system seem sluggish?
[Desire Android Development] BriEE:
main is ondemand as well. no the system is superfast.

It just drains as much as it's awake I feel, like other than the LCD screen. It seems the phone doesn't sleep at all. I know LCD will drain the most, but I feel the phone drains as much sleep or not right now. It sucks because I really don't want to charge the damn thing every 6 hours, even though I have access most of the time (at work) to do that.

I don't want to wipe my system just yet and do fresh install, really don't like to use titanium backup to restore stuff. Last time the thing didn't work either way.:confused:
[Desire Android Development] EViollet:
Did you try disabling WiFi and 3G to see how it goes?

Which radio do you use?
[Desire Android Development] BriEE:
Well yeah if I'm on airplane mode it does not drain anymore... so not sure what that means.

I'm using the famous: 32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2
[Desire Android Development] yeahimdukenukem:
Well, maybe...

I created a profile with 245-368 on screen-off and I feel that I had some drains sometimes, but not everytime. It seemed to me that the battery lasts longer at all with 245-499 on screen-off.

Can someone confirm this?
[Desire Android Development] huzi7868:
1.6a faster than 1.6 still confused
[Desire Android Development] Large Hadron:
Never tried that. I have 245-245 screen-off profile (same governor I use for screen-on, i.e. smartass) and last night it dropped 2% in 7 hours (GSM only, WiFi off, data off, strong signal). That's as good as I've managed with any ROM. This is with the 1113 MHz SVS+BFS 6.1se kernel.

My only complaint is that for some reason it reports weaker WiFi signal strength than I get with the same radio and a recent rooted stock (order of 10 dbm worse in a very strong signal area). Same with both the recommended radio and 5.11.05.27. Unfortunately I've only just installed DeFroST, so cannot comment on anything older than 6.1. Otherwise everything seems to work perfectly for me at the moment.
[Desire Android Development] Latty:
Pretty much the same thing for me...

I get the similar results with WiFi on, and screen off profile set to On Demand 245-537...

Power Tutor / the Froyo battery meter shows 'Android System' has taking up a lot of the battery,

and most of the partial wake time.
[Desire Android Development] huzi7868:
will i have to do a full wipe to install 1.6a
[Desire Android Development] EViollet:
WiFi can drain quite a lot, as can 3G. Especially if you have apps polling in the background. Airplane mode is quite informative of the way your phone reacts when sleeping.

If it eats up the battery when WiFi and 3G is on, you probable have either a WiFi/3G reception problem, or an application eating up the bandwidth.

Can you try with Power Tutor? It'll give you more detailed information on why program is using up the battery.

Regards,
[Desire Android Development] braaaii:
This are the results of the benchmark test with quadrant.

I have used different kernels, CPU setting, etc
[Desire Android Development] BriEE:
Power tutor does not show any other program eating up power except system.
[Desire Android Development] Mikulec:
Its the biggest bug in the rom, other than that its working nicely, no echo bug, wifi theter working, speedy. Good work.
[Desire Android Development] hensk:
I have ,also the same problem & provider have noting about Desire settings

or not even send them to us

can somebody to help us how to recive mms,striming,internet setings