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[Windows Mobile Themes] jotha:
Last chance for Trekkies

Here is an early development teaser for a Star-Trek LCARS Theme. As my first inquiry here has not produced a wave of enthusiasm :o, here a second (and last) chance. As that theme would require some advanced level of work, I will only proceed, if at least 1 million would use it. (OK, I would settle with a number a bit below that :)).

So write if you are really interested in that thing. Otherwise I promise that this will be the last time you see something of it. :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] RedRamage:
Wow... I have to say that I'm sorta drawn to it... I am a trekkie, but I didn't figure I'd end up using it. Still don't know if I would use it or not, but I do like it a lot more than I thought I would.

I don't know if that counts as one of your million needed to proceed or not though. :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] RedRamage:
I suppose that's possible. It just looks way to low to me, but, who knows? It is entirely possible they have some large graphics.

Very good idea... now, if only I could find those widgets out there... ;)

What, whatever you could produce would be fine... It doesn't have the be exactly the same clock, anything close will be more than good enough as far as I'm concerned.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
ehmmm...... plenty of graphics-only weather widgets in MsM libraries.... and text-temperature only are available too, in 2 sizes, 7 colors each :p ;)

I'm quite positive you should be able to find something you can like in there ;)

More than the alarm clock, I'm concerned about the rest of the graphics... the "background" is not really white, it has sort of a shade and I don't know if I'll manage to make a very similar one... will give it a try and see ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] jotha:
999999 to go :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] Peterjac:
Love it

Love it, put me down for this one,

Many thanks for your ongoing hard work.

Peter
[Windows Mobile Themes] claus1953:
You don't count my yes when you first posted it??? Bad guy....lol
[Windows Mobile Themes] RedRamage:
Sorry to be so indecisive, but the more I look at it and my lay out, the more I might just stick with this one, so cross that off your list.

However, I think I might add to your list in another way... that "Special Backlight" thingie, would it be possible to have whatever the text of whatever link you have show up in the top of that black area?
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Uhmm... got it, I'll try ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Hardrada:
Optional colors for the Vostradamus widget manager

Hello Vostradamus.

I'm a super noob but I managed well enough to get your widget manager installed and running. Hopefully I'm not violating the proper procedure for posting on XDA, I mostly just lurk and try to learn.

I was wondering if you might be able to get the color orange incorporated into some of your widgets, such as orange neon status or original orange for the links.

Thank you for the great widget manager, I'm the envy of my wife and kids.
[Windows Mobile Themes] samarain:
hi, i have a sugestion for a new call and sms status, can u make invisible without calls or sms and when have something appear something like the original in the spb (water marked, or almost transparent), i dont like the invisible status u have right now, are really thin and not fingerfriendly lol
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Which link skin would you like to see in orange? I'll see what I can do ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
That's what the current invisible ones should look like.... they have no visible graphics when there are no pending items and the original professional graphics with 1 or more items.... This version is available with or without item counter (that's because the item counter cannot be made invisible only with 0 items... it's either always or never visible)

Other than that, there's also another version which, with 1 or more items, has the same graphics as the "squared" ones (full color set)

Are all of them too small for you? :confused: I've never thought the original professional ones could be too small :p
[Windows Mobile Themes] samarain:
hum..i dont explore 100% all the packages but what i want is 1 full invisible without call or sms and when have something, turn visible and appears 1 just like the item called Pre-Definition that comes with SPB when people install. Its possible? allready exist? and if exist already can tell me what is the name and package?

Sorry for my english :P
[Windows Mobile Themes] Hardrada:
Orange Color for the Widget Manager

Tried to post a direct reply but it kept telling me my token was expired; no idea what that is.

So ok here is the list of what I wouldn't mind seeing in orange:

Status 1: Neon

Digital clock 1: Modern combo

Links 1: Big box, Small box original, Big box border with text

Links 3: Neon, Big squared

Thank you in advance for anything you can do. I'll be hitting your tip jar to feed the cat.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
if you downloaded the full library you should have them, they're either inside the full library or the base one :)

They can be found in MsM inside the "status" category, and their names are

- invisible (like spb default professional status, graphics visible only with pending items, counter always visible)

- invisible no numbers (same as the above, but no counter visible)

- squared <color> invisible (graphics like the "squared" one visible only with pending items, counter always visible)
[Windows Mobile Themes] samarain:
I saw the counters u say but what i want is something like that but when have call or sms appear like the default spb but when no sms, something like water mark ;) understand? invisible no numbers but same color the default, without call/sms :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Uhm, ok I think I'm starting to understand what you mean :)

So that's not really invisible.... you want it almost transparent (but still visible) with no calls/sms, and normally visible with calls/sms, right? :)

(isn't it what the default spb ones look like though? or maybe they aren't "transparent" enough?) :confused:
[Windows Mobile Themes] samarain:
I want invisible without messages or calls and almost invisible like the "defaut without message" when have something, understand? lol
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Oooook, I finally think I got it :)

Now the last detail.... even keeping the graphics invisible, the counter will still show up... that means that with no messages you will have invisible graphics AND a

visible

, white 0... reason is: the counter can only be white and

cannot

be made invisible only with no messages.

If you don't want the 0 to show up, then the only way is not to have it at all, that is no 0 with no messages but ALSO no number (1, 2, 3 and so on) with messages....
[Windows Mobile Themes] mckale:
hello

how to disable "msm" logo in professional panel in background ?

thank for answer...
[Windows Mobile Themes] jotha:
Use "Change Background" in MSM and change the background of that panel to a Picture of your choice. If you want the default Background of Mobile Shell back, you can download it at the bottom of the first post.
[Windows Mobile Themes] samarain:
can be without counter.. :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Ooooook, will see to it ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] RedRamage:
While you're messing around in the Box links adding Orange, can you add some Purple too? I tried to add Purple and Orange into the LinkBigBox but I guess you need to do a lot more than just added new bmps and edit the xml file. :confused:

Still got me some learning to do. :p
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Not so much more, just the ini file :p

Will see what I can do ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Hardrada:
Gold widgets

I feel awkward asking this...but is there any way of creating a GOLD color for your widgets too?

I recently added DirkGently's black/gold dialer and theme, which is awesome, and was thinking how great it would be if there were gold clocks and widgets to go with it.

If not, no problem, but I thought I would ask. You could just tell me to shut up and quit bothering you too.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Well... adding a gold color to all of them would be a quite gigantic work, but if you name a few that you would like I can try to take a look at them ;)

Also, seen that you plan to use them together with some other stuff, it would be wise for you to provide the correct color code for the tone of gold you want, so that I'll be able to make them as similar as possible to the ones you already ahve :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] ironhead65:
Two things:

1) is it possible to add something to "select" the icons for the shortcuts that are created for the Panels?

I see that the newer version of MsM chooses icon 143, where I like the older one you had 113. These are the registry entry values (I can pull up the key and link it here if you need it).

2) "hub" links. Would you be able to add "tasks" ? I think that's the ONLY thing missing in your list (as far as I can tell)

Thanks!

--Ironhead:cool:
[Windows Mobile Themes] Hardrada:
Gold color tone

Possible to add gold to the same widgets I requested for orange? Honestly the biggest thing for me would be the Modern Combo clocks because they are so prominent on my screens.

As for the gold color tone, you might as well ask me for the solution to Fermat's Last Theorem....I wouldn't know where to start; I know nothing about how you do what you do. I put the "noob" in newbie.

Is there any way you could match the gold from the DG dialer? I haven't a clue what the tone is but if you know of a resource I could check then I could choose a tone. ??

I tried to add a link to the XDA forum for the DG themes but I guess I'm too new a user and don't have permission yet.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
You can use spb menu editor for that (attached to the first post) ;)

Will see what I can do ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Ok, so the same as for the orange color :)

About the tone, just post a picture with something with that gold color and I'll pick it from there ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Hardrada:
Gold tone example

Hopefully this works:
[Windows Mobile Themes] Hardrada:
Gold color tone

Ok that didn't work.

Try this:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6265536&postcount=185
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Oooooook, got it! :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] ironhead65:
Now, if you weren't on here looking for new posts, you could be done with the "Tasks" Hub link!:eek::eek:

I kid of course!:D Thanks for all of your awesome support!!:p

--Ironhead
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
:p lol true enough :p

it will take a lil while for I'm still sorting out the things that piled up at work during my holiday, but I'll get to work on the new stuff asap ;)

Yoooooooooou're welcome :p ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] waq987:
password for MsM Full Library (QVGA)?
[Windows Mobile Themes] 1milenia:
does this version have the carousell with the globe in it
[Windows Mobile Themes] Hardrada:
Thanks

Appreciate your patience and help with this, and for the awesome original program. I don't know what this amount will get you where you live, but I sent you 10 Euros to buy some chow for the cat or whatever you want.

Thanks again.
[Windows Mobile Themes] JVogler:
So I've searched this forum, this thread, and also hours of trial and error trying to figure out the orginazation system and how these links are categorized and labeled. I'm not sure if my phone isn't showing them properly or what. I'm not seeing any discernable difference between most link skins. Like lets say for example the basic 'medium' looks the same as 'odd small hub'. Small should be showing up smaller than a medium right? What makes it 'odd'? Does it behave differently than a regular link? The 'hub' part...is there a 'hub' function I can't figure out? So I'm going crazy trying to figure out why they all look the same on my device. I realize this question will sound silly for anyone who already knows what the difference is...but I'm hoping someone will humor someone new to this program and explain it :) Maybe the terms odd and hub and stuff are for something completely different?
[Windows Mobile Themes] LUZPIVER:
Hello, just bought the omnia 2, and I installed the spb mobile shell.

Where to download the widgets or icons, and as I put on the screen?

Thanks for the help.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
You don't need a password as you're not supposed to extract stuff from it... you just need to use the "import library" function in MsM :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Nope, actually I don't even know what "globe" you're talking about lol, sorry :p
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
You're welcome, and thank you heaps (on behalf of my cat too lol) :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
"hub" links are basically invisible links (i.e. they do not show the icon of the linked application), mainly used to set up a "WP7-like" layout by placing them over picture widgets that will give the look and feel of windows phone 7 hubs.... I know this may sound confusing, just take a look at second layout example attached to post #3 in this thread and maybe that will give you a clearer idea of what I mean.

Different sizes differs in just that: size.... the differences maybe quite small, so that you can notice them only by placing the two links side by side and only in edit layout mode, for during normal usage you can't see anything as they are invisible...

About the "odd" part, it's just related to its size, which is an "odd" number of tens of pixels wide, thus making it differently alignable on the screen 'cause mobile shell uses a 10x10 pixels alignment grid (on qvga devices, doubled on vga)

Hope I've been able to clear some of your doubts, if you still have questions just ask away ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
You can find download links in the first post of this thread, as for "how to use them", there's a quite detailed FAQs section in the second post which will give you all the info you need to get things started ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] JVogler:
thanks for that...basically everything is just a 'skin' name...
[Windows Mobile Themes] stmapede:
Hi, previousely I install SPB Shell in my Omnia II. I find that its taking up alot of ram space and sometimes slow down the device.

Recently I send my device to Samsung service centre and flash to latest rom. Thinking of instakking SPB shell again.

If I install SPB Shell and your SPB mobile Shell manager, will it gelp in reducing the ram usage and prevent lag which I experience last time?
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
the amount of ram used by spb mobile shell depends mainly on how many widgets you place on your screens at the same time and a few things like that... this means that, no matter which mods you install (my MsM or any other mod made by anyone else), ram usage will always depend on how you set up your device :)

I too have an Omnia II, but I didn't notice any slowdown cause by mobile shell...

As for the amount of used ram, I managed to free up quite a lot applying some simple tweaks (unrelated to mobile shell), like for example disabling default WM6.5 lockscreen and disabling samsung dialer, both huge ram-eating monsters.
[Windows Mobile Themes] 1milenia:
whatch video this has the globe carousell...do you have this in your build

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2NGWvO_XDU&feature=related
[Windows Mobile Themes] RedRamage:
That video is a demo of Mobile Shell 5.0. This is not available yet, however the carousel that they showed is available in Mobile Shell 3.5.x, which is what Vostradamus' Mobile Shell Manager expands the use of.

Honestly, the carousel is a nice and pretty thing, but functionally it isn't that great. It isn't the easiest or fastest way to navigate. It looks pretty, but isn't very good functionally.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Just as redramage said, that's a preview demo video of spb mobile shell 5, which isn't out yet, so of course that feature can't be present.

The 3d carousel (without globe or cascading 3d images) is available in mobile shell 3.5.x too though, of course provided that your device supports 3d acceleration.

I have to agree with redramage on another point too: the 3d carousel, as eye-candy as it can be, from the "functionality" point of view is close to useless, slow to navigate even on devices where it runs smooth, heavy on the cpu, heavy on battery.
[Windows Mobile Themes] JVogler:
Can panel backups be renamed and not affect them showing up on restore list? The filename includes a really long format time and date stamp I was going to remove, but figured I should ask before I mess with it.
[Windows Mobile Themes] 1milenia:
yes but being a chef is showing your skill in developing differant kind of aplications to our phones ...yes it maybe a little cheasy but thats why spb shell is differant from the rest...most people seeing that for the first time when it came out was amazed
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Yep, renaming those files should be safe :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
I'm not really a chef, I don't cook roms :) I think I'm more sort of an.... advanced skinner, maybe? lol don't really know :p

Anyway, the main problem about that globe is: spb never released any sdk (at least so far), so modders are limited to tweaking and skinning what's already available in the original mobile shell, but can't add all new functionalities...

Until mobile shell 5 will be out there's no way you can have that globe in the carousel, but if you really like it so much maybe you could be happy enough to have a quite similar thing: just install spb time :) (it won't go in the carousel, but you will have sort of a globe with world times and some other stuff too)
[Windows Mobile Themes] JVogler:
Thanks for the quick replies all the time! Ok, so here's a question I've been wondering about, and someone will probably give me a good reason why it won't work before I waste my time....

...I have a ton of links and widgets and stuff per page...and lots of pages/panels...running fast out of memory...would this save any memory?? If I took a screenshot of my set-up page...made it into a .bmp pic and made it the background...then just created invisible links over everything to match up. That way I'm only loading one picture per panel instead of a whole bunch? Not sure if an invisible skinned link saves any noticable memory versus loading them all every time i switch panels.

Obviously wouldn't work for home page with clock and stuff...but like my contacts page, and I have two crammed full pages of program links...
[Windows Mobile Themes] vizarati:
ok umm back again for a little question, so I have samsung omnia 2 and when ever i try to send a picture message it takes like 3 mins to load the pictures because it for some reason just started to show all of the APP images. is there anyway I can stop this from showing? I hate waiting for over a 1000 images to load and then have to spend 20 mins searching for the picutre i just took to send to my facebook =(
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
I've never tried something like that so I can't be 100% sure, but I don't think you would gain that much... even if without graphics, the invisible link is still a widget and I guess it will still use some ram
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Uhm... I'm afraid I can't answer this question: the only messages I send are usually simple sms or text emails :p I guess you could have more luck trying to ask this question in an omnia 2 specific section for the issue it's not related to spb mobile shell
[Windows Mobile Themes] stmapede:
Thanks for the detail explanation on ram usage.

How much ram does WM6.5 lockscreen & samsung dialer takes up individually?

By disabling these 2 items, what alternative you use to lock screen and what dialer u use?
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
I don't remember the exact amount of ram used by the two things, but I remember it's quite large.... something like 8-9 Mb each, maybe :eek:

As for what I use:

dialer - default windows mobile dialer is pretty much fine for me, it's the one that will be in use right after disabling the samsung one

lockscreen - I'm using S2U2 as a lockscreen and a fullscreen caller id and I like it a lot
[Windows Mobile Themes] stmapede:
Then How do I disable these 2 items and will I be able to enable these two items back again?
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
To disable samsung dialer, edit the registry, go to

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Phone\Skin

and set Enabled = 0

To disable wm6.5 lockscreen, edit registry, go to

HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Lockscreen

and set Enable = 0

After changing the two above values, wait a bunch of seconds (15-20), then reboot the phone

If you want those items back, just edit the registry again and set the old values :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] dansia47:
I use S2U2, but I think that Lockscreen uses memory just if you use it (at least on my Diamond).

If I'm right, why should we disable it?
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
I thought the same at first, but it looks like it's not like that.... after disabling the lockscreen via registry I found a quite large amount of free ram more, dunno why but it works like that: if the lockscreen is enabled, even if you don't use it, it eats a large chunk of ram

(I'm referring the WM6.5 lockscreen, if you have a 6.1 rom then this does not apply)
[Windows Mobile Themes] dansia47:
Yes, I have WM 6.1. Morover I didn't found a HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Lockscreen key. Sorry for making waste your time.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
No problem, don't worry ;)

You didn't find that key 'cause you're on 6.1 :)

On 6.5 once you disable that lockscreen it reverts back to the simple one you have on your rom, which for you is the only one included in the OS
[Windows Mobile Themes] dansia47:
I got it, thanks
[Windows Mobile Themes] samarain:
hi, i have a question.. im just installing a new WM firmware and after reinstall the SPB Mobille Shell, its possible to restaure all the widgets i have installed now?
[Windows Mobile Themes] claus1953:
You are right, just the Lockscreen makes 10 MB...thanks!!
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
If you're gonna reinstall the same version of mobile shell, you can use the full backup/restore function and it will save everything :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] samarain:
ok,and need to reinstall again the shell manager or after i reinstall the firmware the same shortcuts appear in the menu because is installed in the card?
[Windows Mobile Themes] JVogler:
Originally Posted by JVogler

Thanks for the quick replies all the time! Ok, so here's a question I've been wondering about, and someone will probably give me a good reason why it won't work before I waste my time....

...I have a ton of links and widgets and stuff per page...and lots of pages/panels...running fast out of memory...would this save any memory?? If I took a screenshot of my set-up page...made it into a .bmp pic and made it the background...then just created invisible links over everything to match up. That way I'm only loading one picture per panel instead of a whole bunch? Not sure if an invisible skinned link saves any noticable memory versus loading them all every time i switch panels.

Obviously wouldn't work for home page with clock and stuff...but like my contacts page, and I have two crammed full pages of program links...

So I gave this a try if anyone else was curious about it...and it did not save any memory...but it does make MS run way better on older, slower devices. On my older Kaiser the page would slide over and the icons would take a few beats to all load...now the whole background slides over and you're ready to go instantly....that's the only benefit I suppose...
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
you'll have to reinstall the manager 'cause even if it's installed on the card the shortcuts aren't and you'll lose them while flashing.

You won't need to re-import the libraries though, just reinstalling the manager alone will be enough. :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Vostradamus:
Icons loading "slowly" is not your kaiser's fault, even on latest devices with 1ghz processors and tons of ram it can happen frequently: I'm afraid that's a mobile shell design flaw :p
[Windows Mobile Themes] stmapede:
Where can i get the program to edit the registry?