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[Desire General] msc4985:
Re: updating to 1.21.405.2, should I?

Just updated, and I can now see Google earth in the market place, perhaps just simple coincidence :-)

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[Desire General] Joshhudsy:
How do I get it on my branded. T-mobile UK desire?

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HTC Desire :)
[Desire General] EddyOS:
You can't as it's an update for the generic WWE Desire's - you'll need to wait for T-Mobile to release an update OR debrand your device (and invalidate your warranty)
[Desire General] aeu04194:
ota update now available on t-mobile uk
[Desire General] makedoc:
I updated my HTC Desire too but now it seems that every-time I start Navigon the phone crash and reboot. I never had this problem before update. Anyone experiencing the same issues when using Navigon or other nav program?
[Desire General] ediflyer:
Hmm I've just tried going into HulloMail and finding it's now stuck at the main green 'loading' page. It's the first time I've tried it since the update a couple of days ago and wondered if it was related to that. Have emailed HulloMail but thought I'd check and see if anyone else was experiencing similar problems?
[Desire General] tifosi256:
Small update: The new HTC widgets showed up last night (along with a new profile and ringtone in the same menu!).

@makedoc: Navigation is fine for me since the update.
[Desire General] vukis:
Hi I can submit another change (downgrade) folders row count decreased from 5 to 4.

xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=697574
[Desire General] jameson_uk:
Upgraded last night on a debranded Orange Desire (popped goldcard in and applied OTA update). Just about everything seems to be working well and I think it seems a little quicker (but that is probably just a placebo)

Only issue I have is that gmail is no longer pushing to the phone. It happily syncs on demand but I am not getting push email. Anyone else noticed this after update or is gmail just playing up today and it is co-incidence?
[Desire General] Rob Pomeroy:
So they say. But pardon my ignorance - how does this update appear on the phone? Not through the normal Market update process, presumably.
[Desire General] Joshhudsy:
??

i havnt recived this ota update??
[Desire General] aindow:
Go to settings, about phone, system software update and then check now. Hope this helps

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[Desire General] chandalf:
Still waiting on 1.21 update

I'm the same. But as far as I can see, others with branded/locked handsets on this thread have got the update. So what have we done or not done? (and no thanks, I don't want to debrand/root my phone - at least until I'm some way through my contract)
[Desire General] will-w:
I've just got my Desire today, turned it on and it prompted to install an update - which I obligingly did!

Anyway, just saw this thread so thought I'd check which version it had installed: 1.19.161.5

Done another check for updates and it returned saying no:confused:

I've got a Vodafone UK branded phone btw
[Desire General] m_damyanov:
Google maps

Hi Guys,

I don't know if anybody has noticed that, but the update features a new Google maps v 4.1.0 (#4126). Before that I was not able to get this update from market...And still can't get 4.2 update.

All Best

Martin
[Desire General] RXP:
The update has stopped me using the keyboard in the programs menu. It no longer appears when I long press the menu button, dammit.
[Desire General] djfwat:
1.21.405.2 OTA - no internet after 2/3 days use

After update, I've noticed after 2 or 3 days of use, internet/active sync stops. Turning mobile network on/off does not make a difference. I have to reboot for it to work again. I leave the phone on charge at night as I use the alarm.

I have a unbranded/unlocked desire from CPW UK. Worked OK before the update.

Derek
[Desire General] Rob Pomeroy:
and

Thanks chaps. Update not showing for me yet. That said, if it doesn't fix all the bugs in the native mail app, I'm not that fussed... :rolleyes:
[Desire General] Joshhudsy:
T-mobile uk have 'withdrawn' the update because of small glitches that need fixing
[Desire General] Tomaco:
- Fixed htc's weather widget (integrated into clock&weather widget) not knowing where you are (1.15.xxx just said the name of the country in some countries).

it worked for me before update , but now after some time (for example night) when i look at phone it only says "Slovakia" so i have to manually enter widget settings and hit refresh... so for me that update broke it
[Desire General] biglunn:
Not sure why I am not getting this update.

Unbranded phone from CPW - current software number : 1.15.405.4
[Desire General] itsamac:
It was made available last Sunday but you had to manually check for updates. It's just the cloud catching up

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[Desire General] moorsey:
same version for me on Vodafone.

Is the update supposed to install automagically? I checked you updated, the phone downloaded it to SD card, then that was it, nothing happened, rubbish.

Have seen some manual update instructions somewhere, guess I'll have to try that
[Desire General] keith-rogers:
Manual update instead?

For those of you brave enough to update manually.

Take a look at the link below, it worked perfectly for me. I'm now on the latest version.

blog[dot]gamermatrix[dot]co[dot]uk[slash]?p=194

Cheers!
[Desire General] Batesy87:
Still no update

I had a read through some other threads, i was a bit worried at first because i have a stock orange branded desire (not brave enough to break it yet). Am i correct in thinking that i shouldnt have a problem with the update because my phone is stock and all the others who have had problems have unbranded..

The only problem now is.. i have no update available, is anyone else still waiting.

Software Info shows

Firmware Version

2.1-update1

Baseband Version

32.30.00.28U_4.05.00.11

SOftware Number

1.15.61.10
[Desire General] keith-rogers:
@Batesy87 As you have a stock Orange Desire, then you won't be able to use the update I posted previously, instead you'll need to wait for Orange to release their own variation on it.

Unless you are brave enough to get rid of the branding then attempt the update. However, that is probably not a good idea what with the Wi-Fi issues. Although I have seen some people post resolutions to the Wi-Fi issues.
[Desire General] Batesy87:
Yea I think i'll leave it as is for now.. I flashed my winmo touch hd but things still seem a little risky with the desire..

Is anyone else on orange and still waiting for the official OTA update, ive tried manual check and power cycle then check again and nothing yet

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nvm I just found this on android forums and knowing what orange are like its probably true

From Orange CS

I can advise that the latest firmware update for the HTC Desire is not currently available. I recommended that you keep an eye on w w w Dot Orange dot co dot uk as it would be made available there when ready.

The reason it can take a bit longer for Orange to have the latest firmware available is because with an Orange branded phone there is Orange software on it as well.

Because of this we need to make sure that the firmware update is compatible with the Orange software so it does not hinder you using your phone.

If the update is not compatible we will not release it and we will try to get an update available that will work.
[Desire General] DaddyCee:
does that mean that the Orange version will not be OTA, but a download from their website then?
[Desire General] k.aalai:
Will the manual update method be ok for a tmobile UK branded (but unlocked) and working on Orange network?Or should i just wait for the fixed update or Froyo roms?
[Desire General] keith-rogers:
@k.aalai

You can't run this manual update on a T-Mobile branded phone whether locked or unlocked.

I de-branded my phone (as it was previously T-Mobile branded) - so I was able to apply the latest update that I posted a guide too (the one below):

blog.gamermatrix.co.uk/?p=194
[Desire General] ediflyer:
Yep - here's my JuicePlotter screen showing it dipping to 90% whilst charging.

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[Desire General] k.aalai:
Thanks Keith for your reply!

At the moment, waiting for the New rom to come out, then will go about debranding/rooting etc.

It seems too much of a hassle compared to my Hero, especially to go through it twice.,.
[Desire General] runob:
Seems my phone is refusing to locate this update.

I got an unbranded desire with build 1.15.405.4

Not root enabled or anything fancy.

When I manually search for updates I get:

Your phone is up to date

There are no updates available for your phone

Connected via wireless. With log collector I tried to grab a log from the update check and it logs:

06-18 18:02:08.090 I/ActivityManager( 75): Starting activity: Intent { act=android.intent.action.MAIN cmp=com.android.settings/.framework.aboutphone.HtcAboutPhoneSettings }
06-18 18:02:08.470 I/ActivityManager( 75): Displayed activity com.android.settings/.framework.aboutphone.HtcAboutPhoneSettings: 363 ms (total 363 ms)
06-18 18:02:09.700 I/ActivityManager( 75): Starting activity: Intent { act=com.android.updater.FOTA_SETTING cmp=com.android.updater/.UpdaterSettings }
06-18 18:02:10.030 I/ActivityManager( 75): Displayed activity com.android.updater/.UpdaterSettings: 323 ms (total 323 ms)
06-18 18:02:11.420 V/htcCheckinService( 75): Roaming is false
06-18 18:02:11.420 I/htcCheckinService( 75): == Checkin triggered ==
06-18 18:02:12.220 I/htcCheckinService( 75): Sending checkin request (1, 508 bytes)...
06-18 18:02:13.090 V/htcCheckinService( 75): Reply from server:"{
06-18 18:02:13.090 V/htcCheckinService( 75): "intent": [{"action": "android.server.checkin.FOTA_CANCEL"}],
06-18 18:02:13.090 V/htcCheckinService( 75): "stats_ok": true,
06-18 18:02:13.090 V/htcCheckinService( 75): "time_msec": "1276876940677"
06-18 18:02:13.090 V/htcCheckinService( 75): }"
06-18 18:02:13.090 I/htcCheckinService( 75): Intent from server: Intent { act=android.server.checkin.FOTA_CANCEL }
06-18 18:02:13.090 V/htcCheckinService( 75): Reply OK from server
06-18 18:02:13.230 I/ActivityManager( 75): Starting activity: Intent { act=com.android.updater.FOTA_ALERT flg=0x10000000 cmp=com.android.updater/.UpdaterAlertActivity (has extras) }
06-18 18:02:13.290 D/htcCheckinService( 75): mCancelReceiver() remove all downloads
06-18 18:02:13.290 D/htcCheckinService( 75): removeAllDownloads()
06-18 18:02:13.300 I/htcCheckinService( 75): Checkin success
06-18 18:02:13.570 I/ActivityManager( 75): Displayed activity com.android.updater/.UpdaterAlertActivity: 305 ms (total 305 ms)
06-18 18:02:13.640 I/htcCheckinService( 75): == Checkin finished ==

Any other logs I can somehow review or clues why this is not working?
[Desire General] keith-rogers:
@runob

Here are instructions for you to manually download, and update your phone to the latest version. I did this, and it has worked perfectly. I think HTC are staggering updates, which is why you haven't received notifications yet!

http://blog.gamermatrix.co.uk/?p=194

Let me know how you get on.

And @k.aalai - No problem, and yeah, it can be quite a hassle!
[Desire General] madd0g:
Sweet, followed the info on this page and successfully updated a unbranded Desire. Thanx alot !
[Desire General] noks6:
That's what I'm going to do. I've got an Orange on version 1.15.61.10, but I've heard various things about 1.21.405.2 & Orange, so I'm waiting for HTC to release a new ROM before I flash it. I've got a gold card ready so I hope HTC release it quick!

Until then I'll have to stick out all the crap Orange have put on MY phone.
[Desire General] runob:
@ Keith

Yeah I saw your post about that. Though I'm a bit cautious about doing it as I'd rather know first why this is not working to prevent that I have to go again through something similar to get to 2.2 or worse break it.

Not sure if the update process is in clear text, if so I could simply sniff the network traffic to try and understand more about it. At the moment don't have a hub or a switch I can span to check it out. Or maybe there is another log file with more info I can open via astro?

Or I may pursue HTC support for this, not sure if anyone had (good) experience with that. I tried calling them last week but after 15 min on hold I had to go to another meeting so I left it like that. Just saw they also offer email support, will try that route to understand what is going on (hopefully will not get a BS answer to factory reset the thing)
[Desire General] keith-rogers:
@runob - From what I've read (and it makes sense). HTC are simply staggering the updates to people's phones, which makes sense, as they will be trying to save on bandwidth. The link to the HTC firmware download that is on the blog page I posted, is from HTC themselves, so it's definitely available directly from them. I imagine, they'll be releasing it to certain IP ranges for different countries / maybe even network operators, but it's just speculation, I couldn't say for sure.

Someone elsewhere on these forums used log collector (same as you did I believe) to show what happened when they ran the update process and it just showed there was no update available. If you look on HTC's site http://www.htc.com/europe/support.aspx - it's clear that they are in the process of releasing the update for stock / unbranded Desire's across Europe. Including the UK.

I wouldn't bother ringing HTC, as you can bet that the people you get through will almost certainly not even understand what you're on about, so you'll just be wasting time and money. There's no need to worry about manually updating to this new version so I wouldn't worry at all. As for 2.2 - it could prove to be a similar affair, this is probably again to save on HTC's server bandwidth.

@thed0g No probs

@noks6 That sucks - HTC should give them a telling off for doing stuff like that!
[Desire General] noks6:
Hah, too right they should! I'd be alright if they let me remove the Apps, but they've stopped you from doing it. What I wanna know is: why? If we pay for the phone, what do they get out of putting Orange-branded stuff on people's phones that you cannot remove? I just don't get it.

Furthermore, does anyone know why flashing Orange branded desires results in the wi-fi/unlock problems in the newest update? Surely if it's the same hardware underneath then all the Desire's should just act the same after a flash (right?)
[Desire General] sparksalot:
It happens with T-Mobile doesn't it if you've debranded? It was my understanding that it was any networks Desire that was debranded and then updated OTA (which at the time only T-Mobile and Orange sold it, right?)
[Desire General] sparksalot:
hmm i'm not sure

I have a code coming from t-mobile themselves but...........they send it by snail mail. So I'm waiting what seems like forever for it - i'll be able to tell you when it gets here but I'm away for half of next week :|
[Desire General] ediflyer:
Makes me soooo glad I went for an unbranded Desire :D Amazing how it seems to function perfectly well without any of this highly necessary branding they speak of ;)
[Desire General] Rob Pomeroy:
I would have thought this was an intentional feature of the charge subsytem. Keeping a Li-Ion battery permanently at 100% charge can shorten its life, so the battery is allowed to discharge partially and then charge again (when left plugged in). See http://www.batteryuniversity.com.
[Desire General] Batesy87:
exactly.. none of it is necessary

it has orange Maps I use Google navigation (beacuase it works better)

it has Home Screen Selector (a gallery view of your defined home screens... but it only shows there own and the htc default... safe to say i dont use that either)

Orange Games (a small selection of apps)

Orange Ringtones (small selection of ringtones)

Orange messenger (an orange branded version of windows live... which I still cant manage to get through the sign up process even though I already have a live account

They changed the short cut image for internet

Orange Photo (online photo album)

and two crap demos.. none of which I can get rid of.

the only orange software I use is orange wednesdays and My orange account apps and I downloaded those
[Desire General] noks6:
I tell ya...it's like they want people to flash an HTC ROM onto it.

I certainly know what would help speed up their testing...not installing the applications no-one ****ing wants in the first place! The cheek they have to say that if their stupid stuff doesn't work then they may never release an update at all - great Customer Service that is Orange.

Now, and especially after reading that e-mail they sent you, I can't wait to debrand my handset and give the Orange the big FU.
[Desire General] ediflyer:
Hi Rob. That probably is why it's doing it, but I would question if it had to do it quite so frequently or by 10%? I wonder if a less frequent drop, perhaps by just 5% would achieve a similar end result without quite such a hit for users who happen to disconnect when they're down at 90%? I've raised it with HTC level 2 support anyway, so will see what they say.

A.
[Desire General] nehebkau:
hmm I can't get the update on my phone! it's definatly unbranded because I can download the update OTA.

During the install process when the green statusbar thing is doing it's thing, a big red question mark comes up and my phone reboots and i still have the same 1.15 version i had before!

I also tried to update it manually from the link an other dude postet 1 or 2 pages back. It didn't work. It always said it couldn't verify the package or something like that.

I've seen other posts with people having the same issue, but no solutions. :(

Is it because my phone is rooted?
[Desire General] djoni1980:
try doing update with goldcard inside. I hope you're aware of simlock problem on unbranded/rooted Orange phones
[Desire General] odigon:
Same problem here..any solutions please???
[Desire General] moran679:
If you already rooted, flash a rooted 1.21 rom instead of the OTA update.
[Desire General] rasherdk:
This still works for me, so it's presumably not universal (quite pleased, I would hate to lose the lil' buggers).
[Desire General] jamfitz86:
I've got a Orange Branded Phone, unlocked and unbranded and I'm on T-mobile. I got the "update available" message today. Am I right in thinking I should not installl this OTA and download and install it with a GoldCard?

JAmes.
[Desire General] djoni1980:
since your phone is unlocked, in theory, if you switch your sd card with goldcard, you should be able to successfully update OTA
[Desire General] dickson123:
Since I installed this update, all my text message threads have every message twice, both sent and received, so all the threads have doubled in size.

The SMS app seems slower as well, the "please wait" box that comes up after you hit send seems to stay much longer and then the new message takes ages to show up.

Anyone else got this problem?
[Desire General] jamfitz86:
Cool, will this update be T-mobile branded? forgot to ask the first time.

Thanks

JAmes.
[Desire General] djoni1980:
since your phone is unbranded, it will be unbranded update :)
[Desire General] aindow:
Insert your gold card, then download and install the OTA update. It worked for me with my debranded Orange desire
[Desire General] oleg1984:
how to install system update to htc desire rooted phone ?

Hi. I have rooted phone, tried to install the OTA but it did not work. Any ideas anyone? Was on wifi and during the install, a big red question mark appeared over an icon of phone. then it rebooted and all is as before.
[Desire General] djoni1980:
read last 10 posts and you'll find the answer :)
[Desire General] haobaobao:
Thx. I also got the same problem when installing OTA. I now know what to do. BTW, do I gain anything by installing this update, because everything is already working fine on my rooted desire as it is now?
[Desire General] tuatha:
Don't think it's a coincidence. Same happened to me when I updated a couple of days ago.

Although I still can't see Google Buzz. :confused:
[Desire General] Alethiel:
Re: updating to 1.21.405.2, should I?

Hi everybody, does anyone succeed with a rooted desire ? It does not work on mine.

Thks

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[Desire General] msc4985:
Re: updating to 1.21.405.2, should I?

Oh that's odd, I've had Google buzz widget in the market place for about a week or 2 now :-\

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[Desire General] Somel:
Updating...

Nothing New... No serious Updates :(
[Desire General] Teppic24:
Let us know if your wi-fi works afterwards.
[Desire General] fIame:
I can watch "HQ" youtube over WiFi. Updated my desire over WiFi 5min ago...
[Desire General] veryjiggy:
Are these updates for Orange users or for T-mobile users as well?
[Desire General] Somel:
Yes so far....:)
[Desire General] EddyOS:
My WiFi works fine, but I used the full ROM not the OTA update
[Desire General] Teppic24:
Were you just rooted beforehand or just de-branded?
[Desire General] kazgor:
wonder why the autoupdate feature didnt let me know this update has been out for 3weeks? the option is ticked.

Did a manual check and i can see it.

presume the update is fine and all contacts etc are kept.
[Desire General] msc4985:
Re: updating to 1.21.405.2, should I?

I have a HTC stock phone bought from carphone warehouse, updated via OTA, no probs whatsoever, it appears the volume has been increased

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[Desire General] RaptorRVL:
Updated as well. Nothing too fancy at first sight. It seems like the homescreen performs better with live wallpapers now.

And my wifi still works fine after the update (not rooted nor debranded, so that probably why it still works. See other thread.). All apps, contacts, messages, homescreens etc are saved as well. For those who wonder everything might be reset :D
[Desire General] Barthanes:
Still no update for me :(.

T-Mobile UK, unlocked.
[Desire General] moran679:
I just updated too, the combined clck&weather widget now knows where I live, previous one only recognized the country.

Thats the only difference I've noticed so far.

Oh, and now I've noticed two more HTC widgets added, are they new?
[Desire General] pascanu:
Just updated. I can confirm that the SMS issue (from non-numerical senders) is resolved.

Anybody has a very (VERY!) slow Market? It takes forever to load, takes forever to go to downloads and so on.
[Desire General] er_yeah:
Just updated but my wifi doesn't work anymore :( and fixes anyone?
[Desire General] thedallyman:
Hi. I have rooted phone, tried to install the OTA but it did not work. Any ideas anyone? Was on wifi and during the install, a big red question mark appeared over an icon of phone. then it rebooted and all is as before.
[Desire General] Aitese:
Others with this issue (like me) are here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=693628
[Desire General] tuatha:
Yeah but just a quick warning to anybody reading this - if you're with Orange read the full thread before doing anything!
[Desire General] Whiterin:
Just tried updating my Desire... says there isn't an update available... no fair. :(

Isn't showing up on the HTC site either!
[Desire General] lithium101:
Updating rooted Desire

I have exactly the same problem. Anybody knows if it's possible to update rooted Desire with stock ROM?
[Desire General] Ghisy:
I just updated mine (it's an unbranded Desire, bought in France).

I wish there was a changelog though, I've checked HTC's website, it mentions the update but no changelog is given.

So far, I've noticed: new counter on threaded SMS, new version of YouTube app (1.6.20E, newer than the one from the Incredible, has HQ option now), fixed random contact showing when receiving operator SMS and apparently also fixes the voicemail bug for the French carrier SFR (short voicemail number used to call 911/emergency).
[Desire General] bridgstfer:
Cant tell any difference after install and still no Google Earth!