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[Windows Mobile] Farmer Ted:
The add2config.txt file is in the wrong folder; it needs to go in the \files sub-folder of the EXT. Put it in there, and you're problems should go away.

Edit: although, I'm seeing this in the build-log:

and this:

So, I guess I don't really understand why the .cab isn't installing. I've never used runcc before, so I can't help you on what may be going on with it. I guess it's ok to put the add2config in the main folder, since it looks like it's compiling correctly.

2nd Edit: all the cab is doing is adding a couple of manila files; you should just dump the two files and put them in an EXT and have them over-write the stock manila files. You don't need to run this as a cab, as far as I can tell.

You need to fix this (minor, but might as well do it):
[Windows Mobile] [★]:
(disregard my last post on the other thread, I didnt realise you had replied :))

Thanks for the response, yeah the add2config file has worked before in the root of the packages, seems something else it buggy :/

Yeah that cab may be so, but that was an old one just as an example, I really need to get it working for this mortscript thing we discussed on the other thread..

Maybe we could discuss more tomorrow ? :D Perhaps you could have a nosey in my kitchen or something, I know I should work this stuff out myself, but as a chef still in training, its quite difficult to know what to look for, and help from peopel like you is priceless :D

Thanks :)
[Windows Mobile] Farmer Ted:
I'm not sure if you have a runcc error, or if in general you have a problem with cab files running. I'm not much help on either, I'm afraid. Do other things run that are in the config.txt queue? A zip file/mortscript may work fine, even if the cabs are crapping out for whatever reason. You just need to have mortscript cooked in and to have the runcc or autorun working ok. Are you sure runcc uses config.txt? I though there was a runcc.lua file or something like that that had all the cabs and what-not listed in it.

Take a look at this thread, it may help you sort this stuff out.
[Windows Mobile] [★]:
Well it has all worked before, I havent changed the setup of those specific packages since is was working, I did look at that thread but couldnt get much from it. Im going to rebuild my kitchen and come to this problem later if I have too :D

Thanks :)
[Desire General] alias_neo:
After contacting HTC regarding FroYo, I was told that the decision whether or not to offer it for devices is based on how they are weighing up the impacts on user experience.

As far as I am aware, FroYo will offer extreme performance improvements over previous builds, and I fail to see how it could negatively impact this.

As for Desire and FroYo, they did of course totally avoid the question and gave no specific response relating to the Desire in any way, nor did they confirm that they will offer it for any devices at all, merely that it is being

"considered" for "some devices" according to the impact "user experience".

As the title suggests, this is not about "if" or "when" but about what exactly they think could be affected in terms of "user experience".
[Desire General] DarkMio:
'Introducing the new HTC User Exprience: Sense'
[Desire General] alias_neo:
I don't htink they were directly to sense. The rep I spoke to mentoned sense, but mentioned this in a different context. I think maybe they may have meant performance wise, once they integrate sense, will the phones really be able to handle FroYo.
[Desire General] abats:
Obviously, Froyo would even run faster on a G1, because Froyo is just faster.
[Desire General] J-Zeus:
I think this means they'll thjnkk about upgrading for 6 months - then announce a delay.;)
[Desire General] foxmeister:
I really shouldn't try to read too much into anything that HTC say about this.

Google's own devs have already gone on record to say that it is technically possible for a G1 to run Froyo (see here), but you can be almost 100% certain that there will never be an "official" port.

By being deliberately noncommittal, HTC can avoid accusations of reneging on promises, because they've thus far promised nothing.

Personally, I think it is reasonably certain that we will see Froyo on the Desire and the Legend in the relatively near future (I'm thinking end of August time frame).

I seriously doubt that any of their earlier phones will get an official update to Froyo, and that includes the Hero even though it is very similar hardware wise to the Legend.

Regards,

Dave
[Desire General] masi0:
I think that HTC cannot loose their chance against Apple.

They cannot screw things up - Evo 4G flagship at Sprint probably will be the first with Froyo - otherwise people start buying iPhone 4G (seems Sprint is going to sell iPhone as well).

HTC Poland recently put their account on the facebook - they didn't expected that users will be with so negative feedback about their support and speed of software releases. I am not sure if such activities HTC did in other places, but phone market now is growing rapidly and if their dont release updates soon enough people like me will get Apple again :D
[Desire General] alias_neo:
Well, the lady I spoke to said they have "learned" a lot from the updates they have released recently and will carry this forward when releasing future updates. As for apple, nothing, and I mean nothing, on this earth would make me go back to apple.
[Desire General] 1wayjonny:
why is this in the development section? You have three other areas to post this in besides development!
[Desire General] alias_neo:
My bad, as I'm always developing or looking at development my bookmarks take me straight to dev section, I had entirely forgotten about the others.

MODS: Any change you could move this to general please?
[Desire General] foxmeister:
I think you will almost certainly find that the "4G" in the iPhone 4G refers to the fact that it is the 4th iteration of the iPhone - not that it works on a 4G network.

Regards,

Dave

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Sent from my secret underground base, buried deep under a glacier in Iceland (the shop, not the country)
[Desire General] JupiterDroid:
Dont apologise mate;) i thought your thread was interesting and informative;)

Dont appease these random trolls that think they moderate these forums! Let the mods do the moderating and we will do the grazing;) hahaha;)

The guy was a twat, he came on the thread where we are trying to port Froyo and said the same thing;) that this isnt a dev topic;) I mean it that isnt dev, then i will give up computers;)

Total waste of space!!!

JD;)
[Desire General] tuatha:
You reckon?

Was there any evidence for this in the various tear downs that have popped up over the last month or so?

Suppose it would make sense from a business point of view. The world (and Europe in particular) isn't exactly overflowing with 4G networks right now.
[Desire General] rovex:
While i dont always agree with what HTC say on this issue they do have a point with Froyo. If they launched an update tomorrow all hell would break loose. Half the apps in the market dont work with froyo right now, and people would happily swap out their SD card without realising it might mean they loose some apps that have moved.

The Nexus one is not the same beast, it is sold as a test bed in effect and users should expect issues, the Desire is a consumer device for the masses. HTC NEED to wait until the early issues are fixed otherwise they would be overwhelmed with support calls.
[Desire General] alias_neo:
I agree in part, but I don't think Google are trying to market the Nexus as a dev phone. I know it is, but unlike the G1 they want it to be a competing consumer device.

I see what you mean now about the FroYo problems, but, not everybody frequent these forums as we do, the solution woul dbe a simple instruction list with the update, saying moving apps to your SD card would of course mean they're not available if you remove it. And I thought apps were restricted in visibility to OS version? I know my hero couldn't see half the new stuff when it was on 1.5.

Still, you make a valid point, just as a Computer Scientist and Electronic Engineer, I refuse to accept these as valid excuses on HTCs part.

I'v seen smaller teams do harder work with better results, in less time using fewer resources.
[Desire General] JDouce:
seriously ... sense isnt that good why cant htc jsut put there apps on the market .... and give ppl stock 2.2 and the choice
[Desire General] Nickedynick:
Not a very well worded post, but I kinda agree. I'd like the option of not having some of the apps. Things like Friendstream and Peep just aren't as good as the alternatives out there.

It'd be great if the Sense UI and apps were installed, but they sold the apps on the Market (obviously providing them free of charge with phones), and allowed the option of uninstalling them.
[Desire General] winx199:
Sure everyone has choice, if you don't like the sense UI, you can choose nexus one, or MOTO, or Samsung, or LG, or whatever... what I don't understand is why people buy HTC phones, if they don't like sense UI in the first place. I don't think HTC can force you to do so, hehe :P

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Sent by winx199 via his HTC Desire
[Desire General] Nickedynick:
I had the option of getting a Nexus or Desire, and opted for the Desire mainly because it meant paying less per month. Since I'm a student until the Summer, and don't have a job to go into yet, this was a big factor.

I was also (wrongly) under the impression that you could switch Sense off if needed, as was shown on pre-release models.
[Desire General] alias_neo:
You can easily disable the sense home. I currently run both helix launcher and sense and can choose which when I press home or set a default. As for sense/no sense, I think for me, it makes my Android phones. Couldn't live without it, even with the great launchers out there.

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Alias::NeO on HTC Desire
[Desire General] pascanu:
I'm afraid you are mistaken (and pretty sure you know it). Sense is much more then the Launcher/Home application, it has deeper integration of apps (mail, contacts, messaging, etc.) Plus even if you can replace the Launcher application there are other vanilla apps that are missing. So, no, you cannot turn Sense off (as in making it plain Android).

P.S. I also love Sense, as a user experience but it does have its problems/flaws. As for the Nexus vs. Desire debate, its not equal to plain Android vs. Sense, there are price and hardware differences (optical trackball for example), people would like choice. Just think how many people buy an iPhone for the hardware and then root it.
[Desire General] alias_neo:
Well if you're talking that level of plain. Then yes, I was of course incorrect. But sense is a fantastic demonstration of system wide integration, and it would be far too difficult to achieve the same success without intertwining them at such a level.

Personally, I'm all for sense, so I get the bonus of better hardware and software.

If it doesn't work how I want, I have the ability to change it.

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Alias::NeO on HTC Desire
[Desire General] pascanu:
I agree 99% with you: I too love Sense. But having a G1 before, with plain Android, I can't help comparing and feeling frustrated when some things don't work as that did. Maybe I'm just getting old and grumpy :-D
[Desire General] alias_neo:
I know how you feel, the friend that got me into Android has an N1 and its a cat and mouse game of mine can do this and the other hacking it into theirs. He too came from the G1, but out of the 12 months he had it, he had it in repair for 7 cause he kept bricking it. He's just that little bit more impatient than I am.

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Alias::NeO on HTC Desire
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] wizholt7:
So I've looked for a fix for hours for this...here is the issue:

I have sprint and rely on my GPS every now and then, but Sprint Navigation is being stupid...never had an issue with my Touch Pro, but it doesn't work on my Touch Pro 2. When I try to get directions, it searches for a GPS signal and loads in 10% increments and when it gets to 100% it says I have a weak signal. Sometimes if I keep doing that for 5-10 minutes it'll finally go through, but it is sooo annoying. I thought the issue was my GPS, but after doing the GPS fix on PPC geeks to improve GPS speed, it still didn't work. Then I downloaded GoogleMaps and it locked onto my location in seconds...I have a friend with a Touch Pro 2 on sprint with the same issue so I'm sure we aren't the only 2 having this happen.

Is there a fix to this? Google Maps is ok, but I would much rather have turn by turn directions...
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] kd8fre:
I would try going to:

Start -> Tools -> QuickGPS

I have found that not running QuickGPS every now and then makes the GPS very fluky.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] wizholt7:
I have tried this, it doesn't work. The problem isn't with the actual GPS. It works fine on google maps, or with the new weather tab on the touch flo screen with WM 6.5 that uses GPS to find the weather for where you are at that moment. It's just with Sprint Nav it doesn't work. Ima try an older version of sprint nav for the first touch pro and see if that works.

EDIT: Ok, so I installed an older version of Sprint Navigation that was for the Touch Pro, and it still didn't work. Ugh, this stinks...c'mon smart guys, any ideas??
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] pelermon:
Between Google maps and the new "BING" (wonderful) I don't know why you would even want to bother with Sprint Nav.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] bestfan:
yeah...

i tried sprint nav, so stupid
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] kski71:
R u on a stock rom or no. If no, then try running sprint provisioning.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] wizholt7:
Yes I am on the wm6.5 sprint rom. Google maps is ok but imo voice guided turn by turn directions, and moreso the moving map that shows u where u are as u travel is far superior to google maps. Is there another alternative to sprint nav that has these features? As far as I can figure out google is just like mapquest except it can zero in on ur position. And I don't know anything about bing's gps thing...
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] drewcam888:
try bing it is free. sprint nav is pretty worthless in my opinion. Otherwise use garmin xt
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] wizholt7:
Oooook, so it appears that quick GPS was the culprit. The settings were off, and it wasn't set to download the maps when it downloaded updates (kind of defeats the purpose of having the app if it doesn't help the GPS any, huh?). I had updated the quickGPS but didn't check the settings before. Funny that googleMaps worked without the use of QuickGPS but SprintNav didn't. I suppose google maps has it's own utility for that within the app itself. Anyway, thanks for the input and help, I'm so glad to have my Sprint Nav back!

Don't know if the Mods wanna keep this thread open, but it is resolved. :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] simpsan:
Hi

Does anyone have the Microsoft Windows WM6.5 Classic Black theme available that they could post?

I've looked on line for it but all links seem to be broken or download the wrong theme.

I have found 'special official themes' but the links seem to be crossed

Thanks in Advance
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] simpsan:
Nobody???? Surely somone must have this as part of their RoM?????
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] anhphe076:
http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=amarullzGreenBlackTheme.cab
[Nexus One General] kbeeveer46:
Just tested a Youtube flash video with my phone on vibrate and I could hear the audio of the video. Just wanted to make people aware so you don't start watching flash videos in the middle of a meeting at work ;)

UPDATE: Flash audio is controlled by the media volume setting. use the volume buttons to control the media volume while watching a flash video within a website.
[Nexus One General] JHaste:
wow good to know! did you test this on multiple different videos/sites though?
[Nexus One General] tomfreay:
Was your media volume muted as well?
[Nexus One General] C.Slater:
That's because when the phone is in 'silent' mode it only affects the ringer and notification sounds. Alarms and the media player are unaffected. You need to turn the media volume to silent too.
[Nexus One General] kbeeveer46:
I think you guys are correct. Once the media volume is turned down I can no longer hear the flash video.

EDIT: Ohh, when you're watching a flash video on a website the volume buttons control the media volume. That definitely answers it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] lurkerzz:
I would like to know how much mah, does a bluetooth stereo headphones drain when connected all day.... if it lasts all day, because i'm thinking about buying a sony ericsson bluetooth stereo headphones and listen to it for... aprox 2~3 hours a day and answer calls during that time
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] marianaurel:
i have bluetooth Nokia speakers and i can listen music all day, maybe more.
[Desire Accessories] albert_htc:
Hi

I'm looking for an NZ plug for the HTC USB charger.

I know I can use a UK - NZ adapter, but I was hoping to find a 'slot in' NZ adapter to use with my existing USB Plug ( as supplied by HTC)

They sell the full travel pack here:

http://www.htcdirect.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_8&products_id=765

Which includes the NZ head, but it's £29.95 !!

If anyone has one they want to sell, please let me know :)

Any Ideas ?

Thanks
[Desire Accessories] albert_htc:
Just found my tomtom main / usb charger that I bought in NZ..

Comes with US, UK, AUS/NZ & Euro plugs and cost me £15.00

Spec is: output 5v - 1.0A

I presume this should work as it's the same out out as the HTC.

This is available for £7.97 here:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Tomtom-4A00-182-5A00-081-A05T2-05MU-USB-Wall-Charger-/310157216511

You would need a USB / Micro SB cable.

:D
[Desire Accessories] albert_htc:
Can some one please confirm this will work !!

I'd hate to damage my new desire :(

Thanks
[Desire Accessories] al89nut:
I also had a charger marked 5v and 1 amp - works fine.
[Nexus One General] Amdathlonuk:
I have a fully formatted fat32 SD card with photos and music...etc on.

I've only installed 3 apps and they're not internal memory dependent but I'm not getting the option to move them. Any ideas?
[Nexus One General] bfspider:
it is because the dev of the app has to flag the app to let it be copied over to the sd card.
[Nexus One General] anstosa:
FAIL

SEARCH! These are the 5 active threads in the N1 forums about Froyo apps to SD:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=687659

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=687140

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=686619

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=686786

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=686588

There are about a half dozen more closed ones started by people like yourself who are too damn lazy to search before you post. People are volunteering their time to help each other here, don't waste it by reposting. The least you could do is make sure there isn't an active thread about your question first.
[Nexus One General] Amdathlonuk:
Thanks for your reply.

I knew about those 5 other threads, however I like the number 6. it's to do with my OCD...
[Nexus One General] DarkDvr:
Lol good one. :D
[Nexus One General] Namuna:
For the folks that have gotten a taste of Froyo, will you keep it?

Closing this poll in 21 days, I imagine the "officially official" Froyo release will have some variances.
[Nexus One General] uberingram:
Yes.

[at least 10 characters]
[Nexus One General] kbeeveer46:
I don't see any poll? My vote would be yes. I went from rooted N1 with stock rom and recovery to amon_ra's recovery and Froyo and haven't found a single bug yet. It's very stable for me and even watched a Youtube flash video which worked flawlessly (keep in mind I only watched one video so far)
[Nexus One General] rori~:
.. when it's CM-froyo, yes.. till then 507.
[Nexus One General] aconner22:
Of course. It works flawlessly on my device and the speed increase is money. Just waiting for the mods now. And for the app devs to send their updates.
[Nexus One General] Namuna:
Darn it! Wish I thought of that option before putting up the poll! I've been thinking of reverting to CM507 and waiting on CM6... But I don't see any options to edit the poll. :(
[Nexus One General] icon57:
im waiting for cyanogen...played with froyo for 5 mins, than did a restore back
[Nexus One General] bmj1086:
I'm keeping it because I love the new features, It's like they listened to me directly because everything I wanted they've updated specifically. I do miss my features with Enoms ROM but I can live without until he releases an update [still waiting on AOSP as far as I know]
[Nexus One General] Vandam500:
Give it a chance rofl. 5 minutes is not enough to discover all the new tweaks/features that Google gave us :)
[Nexus One General] hmarcus:
Keeping it. There are so many new features and just little visual tweaks that make it so awesome. Like when you mount your phone via USB there's a little android guy. Or if you use more than one language when typing you can just swipe the spacebar to easily switch.

The only cons I've encountered were Handcent fc'ing every time I send a msg and the HTC mod kb not working. However those two things are huge for me.

Overall the speed, visual enhancements and epicness of Froyo is enough for me to roll w the punches until 2.2 source is released and the devs fix up something awesome!

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Sent from my Nexus One
[Nexus One General] jimbobalu:
Anyone have issues when powering up the phone? It seems to take forever until it is stable and will actually respond normally. Unrooted Froyo.
[Nexus One General] DarkDvr:
Don't know why people would prefer anything older than FroYo.

It's faster, it's reliable, it has cool features and is better looking =)

Definitely a keeper, very happy with it. Now where is my Gingerbread?!
[Nexus One General] bpm2000:
Because its missing all the little tweaks from CM that makes day-to-day on the phone so much more useful. (even little things like remove debug message, trackball track skip, color pulsing, etc)

I think I'm still going to keep it but waiting impatiently for a CM froyo variant for sure.
[Nexus One General] lostsoul3471:
Keeping it. The 2 issues I had, have been fixed by app updates for dolphin HD and handsent. And I think there's a fix out for HTC ime that I have to find.
[Nexus One General] mindfrost82:
I'm keeping it for now, but once enom and CM start building new ROMs with a Froyo base, then I'll probably move onto those :)
[Nexus One General] Buck Shot:
I got froyo, then went back to cyan5.0.6 due to the fact that apps are not updated yet. But I went back to froyo last night willing to be patient. I cant wait for cyan froyo 6.0 Being stock sucks and to me the reg functions of the phone are slow compared to 5.0.6.

You know how many times I hit my trackball to wake my phone up and unlock and im like "****" lol....

cyan ROMs are the shiznit!!!
[Nexus One General] GldRush98:
Tried Froyo, went back to 2.1

It's not so much I had anything against Froyo... everything worked great with Froyo itself... but none of the widgets I use worked with Froyo, so I reverted.
[Nexus One General] fitsnugly:
where's the option to keep a nandroid of both froyo & CM and switch back & forth as needed? :D
[Nexus One General] JareduPS:
I'm keeping it for now; I REALLY miss some of my apps though.

Since none of them are updated for Apps2SD yet my phone memory's almost full & started rejecting text messages.

Couple that with I have over 100 apps that I can't even find on the market again and yeah.. I'm waiting for CM =(

Love the flash player and hulu on the go though; so for now, it stays...
[Nexus One General] Buck Shot:
u can backup ur phone as much as u want. As long as u have the space to do it on ur SD card. I have about 3 nandroid backups. 2 cyan5.0.6 and 1 froyo. Just go into recovery and select which one u want.
[Nexus One General] fitsnugly:
I was being sarcastic.......:rolleyes:
[Nexus One General] :
I'll stick with 2.2 until cyanogen updates his rom.

It seems I'm more interested in changing roms than the actual features in the roms. lol