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[Nexus One General] Scrtcwlvl:
[FIXED]

As suspected it was something with the ATT APN settings that google added with their latest iteration of the carrier settings. It would run your browsing through the ATT proxy and if images were larger than a specified threshold, they would shrink them down to an unbearably small size making mobile browsing painful, if not impossible in some cases.

How to Fix:

Go to Settings - Wireless & Networks - Mobile Networks - Access Point Names - Cingular 410 (or for some Media)

Delete the text in the settings for

Proxy

Port

They should now appear as <Not Set>

Hit the menu and select Save.

MMS still seems to function normally and web browsing is just fine.

You may however, need to clear out your cache of the old super thumbnails.

Problem

Documented and left for searching

Like a majority of you, I hopped on the Froyo train and it was quite delicious.

Now however, something about the browser is driving me up a wall, to the point of not really being usable.

This also seems to effect 2.1 Desire users, using their device on ATT.

This is an ATT 3G Nexus One - with the Pauls Froyo rom

When on a 3G data connection something is both compressing and resizing the images, not a little, but a whole blasted lot and I cannot seem to figure out what or why.

I realize carriers often compress images, but this is an absurd level of compression.

This is what the webpage QuestionableContent.net looks like

WiFi connection

(Ignore the blue box, I had just flash and not installed flash 10.1 from the market, I know I can make it go away...)

Clear cache, everything cleared.

This is what it looks like on 3G

I cannot even get close to reading it. Zoomed in the picture is just absurdly small.

I tried about:debug

Changed my UAString to desktop, same deal. I cannot view certain web pages at all.

That is the final kicker, it is only pictures above a certain size that it compresses them this badly.

If I load up a site with smaller pictures they are just fine, I imagine some 100k limit.

I keep searching but all I can find are threads about the overall fuzziness of the N1 screen, this is well beyond fuzziness and is somehow tied to the carrier, the browser or both.

I noticed this occurred with the Desire rom as well, but I didn't stick to that long and quickly went back to a non desire rom. This did not occur on non desire N1 roms.

Edit:

It has to be something with the carrier or mobile data connection settings -

Was something added to the ATT APN settings?

Is there a hidden setting that compresses images disgustingly?

I did the same tests on Dolphin and Dolphin HD, other than annoying force closing, they showed the exact same results.

Are you having this same issue? Please post!

Post your rom and carrier.

Interesting finds

-This occurs on all browsers

-If one hold clicks on and image, selecting "Save Image" it downloads the picture in full quality...
[Nexus One General] lostsoul3471:
Not sure what to tell you... I turned off WiFi and just used 3G to get to the site you mentioned and no issues here. Could be a local proxy setting that sends it to a cache site for AT&T and that site has a mini image. I have no need to use AT&T's proxy's to get to their mobile home page so I may have it turned off someplace. I just checked a couple of settings and nothing gives me the option to turn proxy settings on or off from what I found. My only bugs(so far) with Froyo are app related--Dolphin HD closes whenever you touch the address bar and HTC_IME FC's whenever you try and pop the KB up.
[Nexus One General] Scrtcwlvl:
Thank you for your reply, you say you are using an ATT N1 as well?

I wonder if it is truly a localized setting or something with the att settings. I'm going to try shutting down, booting up without my sim, shutting down again and putting the sim back in. Maybe I just need a network setting refresh.

As for HTC IME, I installed the version without voice and disabled voice from appearing on the keyboard and it works great for me. Much better than the stock keyboard.

Smooth Calendar widget doesnt work, Handcent force closes after returning home from sending a sms and Dolphin force closes when hitting the address bar (both HD and non).

Otherwise, those I can deal with, this is making mobile browsing not possible.

Edit:

No such luck with the refresh, took the sim out, reboot, let it boot empty and restarted with the sim in. Same exact issue.

This is madness.
[Nexus One General] DarkDvr:
Indeed,

I'm on AT&T running rooted FroYo and I also have a drastically downsized image just like the OP. It is in fact completely unreadable, no matter how you zoom in or double-tap.

We need to find a solution for this.
[Nexus One General] Scrtcwlvl:
Glad to hear I am not the only one with this issue, I was starting to worry its was just my phone or just my ATT account.

yeah, this is q very serious issue that really puts a damper on mobile browsing that needs to be worked out. I imagine it is a carrier setting for ATT that is new to froyo, but I have no idea where some kind of setting like this would be hidden.
[Nexus One General] krabman:
I hadnt noticed that but yep, got this as well. Works correctly on wifi but not on 3g.
[Nexus One General] Scrtcwlvl:
Thank you for testing this for me guys, we now know it is not exclusive to just me and my device. However, I am unsure if it is just ATT.

Please post what Rom you are on and Carrier.

(At this time we are all on the same froyo build, but now Chefs are pushing out custom Froyo roms, so that is changing!)

Thanks again guys, if anyone has ANY ideas please, do not hesitate to post them.

Honestly this is a bit absurd, I would be annoyed if it did this by default but you could override it and load an image in full quality by request, but someone, ATT or Google is tanking these images and we need to figure out how / why.
[Nexus One General] mutantblack:
on my 2.1, it loaded up fine.
[Nexus One General] Scrtcwlvl:
I realize that, it loaded just fine on my 2.1 as well.

Only other time I saw this was on one Desire Port, but I flashed back to a standard 2.1 because I needed bluetooth.

It was something added in Froyo, we need to figure out what and why, and how to get rid of it.
[Nexus One General] attn1:
At first I didn't think I had the issue, but when I hit menu + refresh in 3g mode, the pictures went all thumbnail on me. I am looking for a setting.
[Nexus One General] mlinz:
does the same issue occur in Skyfire, Dolphin HD, or Opera Mini? Seems like a pretty stupid thing to change when you're upgrading the browser in so many other way for Froyo.
[Nexus One General] Scrtcwlvl:
It is stated in the first post and even shown in a picture that this occurs in other browsers.

This is shown to occur in both Dolphin and Dolphin HD -

Opera Mini 5 with picture size set to full it loads normally.

Sadly though, Opera Mini uses server side rendering, thus it really isn't pulling it straight through the device and Skyfire... is well... Skyfire is RDP with a skin on it - so it would be excluded in this case
[Nexus One General] Clarkster:
Try comparing the APN settings between someone who gets the resized pictures, and someone who doesn't. It could be some of you are using a different AT&T APN that is made for smaller phones, WAP-like browsing, not a smart phone one.
[Nexus One General] ArcanaXVIII:
I think we have a winner. There has been a few issues where the update to Froyo incorrectly set the APN for your carrier (like using a carrier alternative APN instead of the main one), so it could very well be this.
[Nexus One General] Scrtcwlvl:
This would certainly match my suspicions and would make a lot of sense.

Anyone have a Nexus on ATT with 2.1 still to Compare?

My APN settings

Name: Cingular 410

APN: wap.cingular

Proxy: wireless.cingular.com

Port: 80

Username: WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM

Password: *********

Server: cingulargprs.com

MMSC: http://mmsc.cingular.com/

MMS Proxy: wireless.cingular.com

MMS Port: <Not set>

MMC: 310

MNC: 410

Authentication Type: <Not set>

APN Type: default,supl,mms
[Nexus One General] ArcanaXVIII:
Looked up AT&T APN settings on the net. Found this :

AT&T Expanded

Name: AT&T

APN: wap.cingular

Proxy: leave blank

Port: leave blank

Username:WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM

Password:CINGULAR1

Server: leave blank

MMSC: http://mmsc.cingular.com

MMS Proxy: wireless.cingular.com

MMS Port: 80

MCC:310

MNC:410 (note. this could also be 310, 41 or 15)

APN Type: leave blank

From : http://forums.pinstack.com/f24/tcp_apn_wap_gateway_port_carrier_settings-360/
[Nexus One General] mutantblack:
This is what I have on my AT&T Nexus one with 2.1 firmware. Hope this helps

Name: Cingular 410

APN: wap.cingular

Proxy: not set

Port: not set

Username:WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM

Password:CINGULAR1

Server: cingulargprs.com

MMSC: http://mmsc.cingular.com

MMS Proxy: wireless.cingular.com

MMS Port: not set

MCC:310

MNC:410

Authentication type: not set

APN Type: leave blank
[Nexus One General] Scrtcwlvl:
Thank you for posting your settings, but are you able to view the site clearly? Without image compression?
[Nexus One General] ArcanaXVIII:
I think the culprit is the APN Type so. Yours is APN Type: default,supl,mms while it should be left blank, as well as the proxy.
[Nexus One General] Scrtcwlvl:
Changing this and restarting the connection does nothing.

Fixed it!

Clearing the Proxy and Port lines of the APN settings did the trick. Pages load in their full glory now.

Thank goodness :D

Thank you very much Mutantblack for your settings and all others for confirming this issue.

I will now test MMS and a few other settings to see if all else is fixed.
[Nexus One General] ArcanaXVIII:
Always glad to help. ^^
[Nexus One General] attn1:
yup, I can confirm. Makes sense, actually, since this ROM was meant for T-Mobile units that don't support ATT 3g. My guess is that the APN was modified to make edge bearable with a flash browser enabled. Good find.
[Nexus One General] khaytsus:
Odd, my new N1 for AT&T/Rogers does not have proxy set in the APN. No wonder the browsing isn't DOG SLOW.. :)
[Nexus One General] krabman:
Worked. Thanks all.
[Nexus One General] aloudermilk:
I tried and still have problem

I applied all of the settings changes listed:

Changed APN Proxy,APN Port, and APN Type to not set.

This did not resolve problem for me.
[Nexus One General] Scrtcwlvl:
Uh oh...

Copy down your APN settings here exactly (Like I did, a page back) to see if we can see what the issue is.

You sure you cleared your browsers Cache before trying to load the page again?
[Nexus One General] aloudermilk:
OOPS

I missed the cache clearing part? How to do that
[Nexus One General] aloudermilk:
OOPS

Clearing the cache, figured out for myself, fixed it :-}

Thanks
[Nexus One General] mutantblack:
glad to help. that was the very first time I actually went in and look up the apn setting. lol
[Nexus One General] ClanLee:
Clearing the proxy/port worked for me as well. Thanks!
[Nexus One General] mistadman:
Good find and fix!!

Thanks @Scrtcwlvl! I noticed this issue on a couple of sites, but thought it was a site issue. I guess I have been too busy playing with Flash to care! ;-)

Thanks again!!
[Nexus One General] Scrtcwlvl:
Has anyone else noticed an increased number of connection time outs and dead connections? increase as in any at all compared to none?

Not sure if these are related, but possibly taking us off the ATT proxy server may have other less desirable effects.

anyone else? I notice this primarily with gtalk but it has happened in the browser too
[Nexus One General] :
I've been playing with this fix. Once I do this, kill all applications and restart Speedtest.net, it completely destroys my upload speed.

It's weird that having the proxy set makes uploads 10 times faster.

At least now I know what was causing my sucky uploads.

So I can choose slow upload, or crappy compressed pictures.

I love AT&T.
[Nexus One General] Scrtcwlvl:
I have noticed certainly a greater fluctuation of download speeds since the proxy kill, but my upload has been consistently between 1Mb/s and 2Mb/s.

I've personally stopped using a task manager after reading further into why it doesn't really make a difference and I've not noticed any performance changes. (Compared to always killing everything) other than programs that I ran recently open instantly because they are still open.

(Mileage may vary however, as running your browser with Flash ties down more system resources when minimized.)

Other than the actual connection timeout I experienced, my upload has been fine, just download has been all over the map.

Sometimes as low as 586Kb/s, others as high as 3.5Mb/s. Not just during high hours, but at all hours of the night.
[Nexus One General] :
Wish this was the case for me, it's been messed up in Salt Lake for months. Without proxy, I can not upload above 256k.

-James
[Nexus One General] slavag:
Hi.

I just wander if the FRF50 firmware has the promised 802.11n support ?

Cause it's looks like there nothing changed since ERE27, just getting worse. For example , the option to connect to EAP 802.1x was dramatically downgraded and lot of configuration parameters were removed and now I can't connect to the corporate network that with ERE27 I connected without any problem.

Best Regards.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] isvaffel:
Hi!

I've tried a Kitchen for Linux, and tried to costimize a rom.

But, when i've putted som app in the app folder, and saves the rom as .zip file, and trying to install the update.zip on my phone, it repet on booting screen?

Why?

Cuz, when i install the untouced ROM it works?

Isvaffel
[Desire General] descb600f:
When I connect my girlfriends Desire to her computer the USB hub gets disconnected.

If i remove and reconect the hub it works again.

Does anyone know what could be causing this??

Ta Des
[Desire General] craigcrawford1988:
Not enough power on that hub?
[Desire General] descb600f:
the phone isn't connected to the hub and it is a 7 port hub with it's own power supply and only has 4 devices connected.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Livven:
I have created a concept for the first Windows Phone 7 devices codenamed Mondrian by HTC. It is largely inspired by the design of the HTC Touch Diamond, which is generally regarded as the most beautiful phone HTC ever made.

Following the current HTC lineup, there will be three versions, of which I have completed the Diamond3 and Touch Pro3. The Touch HD3 concept will come later.

Larger view - click the download link on the right to get the full-size render

PSD is available on deviantArt

Just for the fun of it, I also did an iPhone 4 PSD :D

​

Feedback, suggestions etc. are welcome! Hope you like this :).
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] S@mbaman:
This is realy great looking!!!

I use your dialpad and this would realy finish it.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Livven:
Well, this is neither a theme nor can you use it to transform your device, but just a design concept :p.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] S@mbaman:
No ok but you or someone should use this for a theme...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] mrcraggle:
Drool. HTC need to give you a call. I'd buy this in a heart beat if it were real (and had a good qwerty)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Livven:
Yeah, I guess I'll make a version with hardware keyboard next. That would be a bit more challenging, though ;).
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] S@mbaman:
Ja mein Freund das waehre doch super!!Deine Tastatur benuetze Ich schon.

Aber ein theme das so aussehen wuerde.....

Hans
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] JayceOoi:
Diamond series will be nice. Prefer a larger screen HD3. ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] dudu7559:
Great............ When is it supposed to come out on the market??
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] MAK11:
Nice concept ! I like it!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Livven:
Added a Touch Pro3 concept with keyboard :D.

Gibt doch schon ein paar für SPB Mobile Shell, ThrottleLauncher, WAD usw. :).

Will do it later.

This is just a concept, but Microsoft said the first WP7 devices will come out with the holiday season, which isn't really specific, though. I think I read somewhere that HTC will bring their first devices at the end of the year.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Kloc:
Now that with the keyboard would be a bad-ass phone.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] orb3000:
Great work Livven!!!

Wish TP3 will go on that line:cool:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Livven:
Thanks for your feedback :).

BTW does anybody have some ideas for an HD3 concept? How should it look like - maybe a metal border, a brushed aluminium look, maybe even white body? I need some creativity... :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] dick turpin:
i had td2 it WAS a beautifull phone, i miss it now :( lol
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ckacey:
looks nice, I'd go with a TP2 style key arrangement and spacing, but with all of the buttons shown here
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Fdo35:
I think the HD3 concept should have the front of an HTC HD Mini, the back of a more square-angeled HTC Legend, and stereo speakers, all in addition to your other concept specs. It would be awesome!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Livven:
I agree, I think it's looks much better than the HD2 or TP2. Only the original Diamond looks better, in my opinion.

Maybe I'll do it later, I just took the keyboard from the Touch Pro for my current concept as creating a new one is quite difficult.

Stereo speakers on the front or back? And vertically (top and bottom) or horizontally (left and right)?

Thanks for your suggestions :)!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] 115641:
Very nice looking!!! Let's hope it's going to look like this. Looking forward to the HD3 concept :)

How come it says your from the Netherlands but you speak German? :confused:

Please talk English so everybody understands. Thanks.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] kameleongt:
I would be all over that touch pro 3, until I see an hd3 concept of course. . lol
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] kameleongt:
did anyone send that to HTC those are great realistic looking concepts I can live with a 1ghz don't need 1.3 but thats awesome thanks OP!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] stim141:
Looks great - BUT - are those hardbuttons or true capacitive. If they are the flexible hardbuttons IE FUZE - no way! They break and get loose over time. Capacitive hardbutton would be amazing.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] calerouxz:
I think I beat you to the HD3 concept ^^ nothing tooo fancy though

Specs:

*4.4" AMOLED capacitive (touch sensitive) screen

*HWVGA resolution (that's 1000 x 640) (lol, invented)

*2.0 Ghz Dual Core Snapdragon Processor

*2.5 GB RAM

*3.5mm Headphone Jack

*Mini HDMI out

*8.3 Megapixel camera
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] dashrink:
This sounds MUCH better!!!!

The only thing wrong is that the screen needs to be to the edges, so the handset can be a lil smaller :-)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] why_999:
Nice concepts... :)

How about the TP3 with the off set keyboard, like the current TP2 ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] dodo2244:
Hand me another towel for the drool ;-). Let's not forget a camera flash, stereo speakers, hd video record, 3.5mm audio jack, dedicated TV out, FM transmitter, multi color notification LED's on the HTC logo itself and the "face down to conference". 2000mAH Batty ....

Should I continue ..... lol
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] calerouxz:
jeje thanks for the reply on my concept,btw Livven, great concepts for the Diamond 3 and TP 3, it inspired me :D but now im working on an android concept, based off of the HTC Legend, its not in HTC's line of releases for this year, so its kinda just a personal project, but would you guys like for me to post them here?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Halle:
LOL why "make up" 2.5GB RAM in a cellphone xD. That's just totally pointless in all aspects, there are NO excuses to have that much ram in a mobile. :p

Well, unless you consider the "cool" factor... :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] calerouxz:
well, as software keeps on getting upgrade, you will need better hardware, so in 2 years this phone may still run smooth on the newest software, its pretty much the best option when creating a smartphone. This is why the HD2 was considered for one of the first smartphones to run windows phone 7, it has an amazing amount of RAM and a pretty good processor. You really want the smartphone to have double the specs as they are required.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Aditya7:
PSD

Hi,

Just to say amazing concept designs!! i love em, just wished that i would be able to buy it on release unfortunately im on contract with my HD2

Please could you send me the psd??

Thanks m8
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] calerouxz:
Hi, here's my .PSD for the HD3 concept:

HTC HD 3 Concept PSD Click Here

I would like to see what you guys come up with this :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] calerouxz:
Ok, so I'll try to make this device in Photoshop, BUT here's the thing:

1-You can't exactly measure the screen size

2-The slide out qwerty keyboard, it would be rather complicated to use, as the device is so thin, a number pad could fit, but it does not fit in the device we are talking about.

3-3D might be really impossible on a phone, projector is, 3D is just not developed enough to take advantage of in a mobile platform.

But then again, I will create this device in an image format, then you can get someone and set it as a proposal of a phone to someone.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Livven:
With flexible hardbuttons, you mean that they could differentiate touch and press? Well, Windows Phone 7 won't support this anyway.

Nice work.

What do you mean with "off-set"?

Notification LEDs on the HTC logo... that inspires me for the HD3 concept. I think I have a pretty good idea.

Will clean them up a bit and upload later (will PM you once it's ready).

1. I don't think WP7 will support anything like that, besides it'd make the device too big. But it is a nice idea.

2. Seems very well thought, I'll do it like that.

3. There won't be a fixed keyboard, but maybe a detachable one like on the T-Mobile Ameo.

4. I also like the rather industrial-design of the leaked iPhone HD pictures.

5. This is just a design concept, so the camera is irrelevant (it can be anything you imagine :D).

6. I'd also go for black, though I'm not sure with the rubber patterns. They'd break the look.

Overall, pretty amazing ideas you have, though I doubt if an OEM would produce one single sample phone on request. But it'd be awesome :).
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] why_999:
If you look at the TP1 keyboard the buttons or keys are inline with each other. However if you look at the TP2 keyboard they're not inline but but 'off-set' to be more like a traditional computer keyboard, thus making it easier and more natural to type with

Keyboard similar to the concept keyboard
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] hyellow:
Take the LG BL40 for example. It also has an aspect ratio of 21:9, yet has a 4 inch display and on top and bottom giant bezels that could easily fit more of a display. Well, fill that gap and extend it even just a little bit more and you have a 5 inch display with 21:9 aspect ratio. As you can see on the image, the LG is just a bit bigger than the iPhone.

Now stack two of these LG's on top of each other, while one resembles the slide and tilt screen, while the other would be the keyboard. Ofcourse, the overall thickness would be less, but it's just for the imagination.

http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_bl40_new_chocolate-pictures-2916.php

I don't think that WP 7 has limitations regarding screen size. Just the screen resolution is of importance.

Also, 3d screens may be just future dreams, but the technology is already available. Why would you wait with supporting it? Is MS waiting for apple to be the first, again? 3d conferencing could also help their windows live suite gain more marketshare.