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[XPERIA X10 General] pshdo:
Is the chipsset in the X10 mini´s so mutch different from the X10 ?

Both X10 mini have FM-radio, but for some strage reason the BIG X10 have not ??

I belive that the hardware in the X10 do have FM-radio, but perhaps for some unknown reason S/E decided to not enable that feature...

Perhaps they had some big problems right before they put the X10 on the marked, and decided to disable the radio becource of that...

Anyway, in my mind it give no sense what so ever that the big X10 have NO radio inside, when they small do...

- so i am pretty shure it is "only" lack of software that is the issue...

I for one would love to get the FM-radio feature, i have allways used the FM-radio feature in my phones, and i actually didn´t notise when i bought my X10 that it didn´t have a simple thing as an FM-radio...:eek:

BTW:

Not all network providers sell the X10 package including the MW600, my provider have an other package with 16Gb memory instead...

Only one or two providers here in denmark have the MW600 in the sales package, but then they only get 8Gb memorycard instead...

(But i know that some providers arround the world have both MW600 and 16Gb memory in their sales packages...)

Bonus info... ;)

I DID actually buy a MW600 for 3 weeks ago, and it worked really REALLY well, but that is dead now as my dear wife decided to wash my jacket with the MW600 still in it... :rolleyes: :D
[XPERIA X10 General] _EriK_:
And remember that Mini have MT, right? The screen panel is the same, i think...
[XPERIA X10 General] pshdo:
No, there is no MT in the mini´s, but i have read that the mini pro (i think it was the pro) have the hardware for MT...

But who is talking about MT ??:confused:

- i don´t care about that...!;)
[XPERIA X10 General] _EriK_:
Ou... A little OT.. Sorry! Returning topic of the radio, maybe someone could disassemble both, mini and the bigger, and try to find the specific components just to see if they look the same. :D

And as you said, Nobody cares about that... MT? For what? :D
[XPERIA X10 General] pshdo:
Is it not possible to just look at the specifications of the hardware, do you think ?? ;)

Ofcource S/E could have used different chips for different things in the different X10 models, but all that would do is make it a lot harder for them self (different drivers and many other problems) to release new better firmware for each X10 model...

And that would just not make any sense at all...
[XPERIA X10 General] anguslaw:
I think it is nearly pointness to discuss whether X10 has radio.

1st of all, it will only kill your battery faster if you have radio built in in your x10 and you use that.

2nd of all, you can just buy a cheap pocket size radio for just a few dollars.

Radio is such a cheap low tech product nowadays. Who cares if your mobile phone does not has one.

You guys are funny.
[XPERIA X10 General] pshdo:
I have a strong vision, that it is you (and your friends) that support MAC´s ipod also, am i right ?? :rolleyes: ;)

The funny thing is not why i´d like to have FM in my phone, but why the h... you think i have to buy a device for phone, an other device for paying mp3 music, yet an other for listening to radio, a device calculating, a device for callender and so on, when i can have it all build into one device that works perfect ??

The lack of FM radio in the BIG X10 is a strange thing, especially when compared to the two mini´s features...

Maybe i could understand if someone could actually explain WHY S/E didn´t decide to build in a FM radio in the big X10, but also at the same time decided to put in a FM radio in the two mini´s...

According to the batt time in the mini´s S/E don´t care at all about how long the batt last, so that is not the main reason for no radio in the X10...

IF S/E did care about that, then there would be no radio in the mini´s instead...
[XPERIA X10 General] johndub71:
If you read Analogue radio reciever, it says not supported.
[XPERIA X10 General] _EriK_:
Specs not always say the truth... There are some strange stuff about SE and their devices.

So, if i understood well, you are trying to explain that both devices have the same hardw.. But strangely SE didn't activated the radio en the bigger.

+1!
[XPERIA X10 General] pshdo:
:-) well That we know, no software support anyway, But the hardware is there ill bet... :-)
[XPERIA X10 General] chris_knows:
Didn't McKebapp say that there was no FM radio when he took the phone apart a few months back?
[XPERIA X10 General] Gentimp:
Hmm, android phones without internet are kind of useless, so perhaps SE left it out because of wifi and 3g.

But then again, SE isn't that smart and we didn't get an internet radio application on top of that.
[XPERIA X10 General] lornova:
A lot of people, including me. I enjoy listening radio, and I hate to carry another electronic device. Otherwise I would have a phone, a PDA, a PND, a MID, an MP3 player, a compact camera and a radio. I choose a smartphone to have all these functions in a single device.
[XPERIA X10 General] naplesbill:
I understand what you are saying but I don't carry a smartphone to replace my camera or MP3 player, it is just a supplimental device in those instances (for me). I much prefer my ZuneHD as an MP3 player but the X10 is the best Android phone as MP3 player that I have seen. The camera is decent enough to get shots in a pinch but if I want to take serious photos I'll use my point and shoot or DSLR. There is no comparison in the results between these dedicated cameras vs any phone camera.

I don't think a jack of all trades device can ever fully supplant a dedicated device. It's just a matter of having some limited abilities at all times.
[XPERIA X10 General] anguslaw:
1st of all, totally agree with Naplesbill, second, hey, Iornova, this time, you buy a lesson, next time, read the spec before buying anything. You should have known that X10 had no radio before you bought it.

And Pshdo, Naplesbill state the point.

Guys, you knew there is no radio before buying X10, if you wanted a built in radio and you still bought the X10, how would you describe yourself?
[XPERIA X10 General] johndub71:
I use tune in radio app. Very good. Can listen all over uk stations.
[XPERIA X10 General] tuxStyle:
MW600 if you want radio!
[XPERIA X10 General] pshdo:
I actually didn´t know that the X10 don´t have FM-radio...

I didn´t have that thought at all before buying, that there would be no FM radio, as all of my S/E phones since my K750, and all the way up until now (about 10 different models have i had since my K750), and they always have had FM Radio...

So why have S/E decided to not include FM-radio in the big X10, when they put it in the mini´s ??

Can anyone explain this for me ?? :confused:
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
Are you trolling? Every iPod includes FM radio except for the screenless shuffle.

Also, who wants terrestrial radio?

You have an INTERNET ENABLED smartphone that can tune-in to MILLIONS of radio stations over the internet, in far higher quality, including lyrics and album art.

I'm still convinced that X10 fans are the most immature of all smartphone fans.
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
Wow man... all you do is roam around the forums trashing users everywhere... u need to chill I think

I agree there are a lot of users who deserve that here, but cmon... just look at your last... 50 posts? how many of them have not criticized someone?
[XPERIA X10 General] lft4ded:
I like terrestrial radio. My C905 picks up a pretty good FM signal at my townhome. But AT&T's signal is pretty spotty in that area. And I like my local radio stations with their DJ's.

I'm not going to cry about it because the X10 brings a lot to the table. But still its a pretty good question as to why not. Especially with articles about mobiles and making fm radios from a few weeks ago.
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
The past 50 posts? You're generous.

This forum is filled with immaturity. However, this is off topic, and if you'd like to discuss it, please PM me.

I just can't understand the *****ing about "lack of an FM radio" when the guy said "I didn't even know the X10 didn't have a radio!" which means it's not a feature that was important to begin with.
[XPERIA X10 General] lornova:
What the *** do you want from me? I never complained for the lacking of the radio on X10! I was just bored by people saying "who cares if there is a radio in a smartphone"?

Please read through post of people before being so rude.
[XPERIA X10 General] pshdo:
OMFG!

I have not seen any *****ing over this issue at all !

- i for one am just wondering about why S/E have decided to NOT put in a radio in the big X10 even thoug they have radio in the mini´s...

One should think that the bigbrother would somehow be more feature-packed than the littlebrothers...

- but not when it is S/E who is the manufactor...!

I didn´t look after if there was radio in the X10, you are absolutly right about that, i didn´t look for many things, as i thought that something like a radio, a callender, a calculator and so on was in a S/E phone by default...

FM radio has been there by default in all the S/E phones i have had since my K750 and up until now, so why remove a good feature ??

It make no sence to me they have removed that feature...

- and YOU my friend, don´t have the answer also i see...:rolleyes:

I do have to ask you, if you, as you state, ALLWAYS are looking for any and all "features", nomatter what you buy, and even thoug you have no reason to think they have changed over the last 8-10 years ??

Get a life m8, PLEACE get a life, and stop trolling...! :D
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
Sigh. If you're going to rant incoherently at me, please use correct grammar.

Any educated consumer is going to look at the specs and features of a new device before purchase. Assuming things is silly. It's like buying a Nissan Volt and expecting to fill it up with gasoline, because until this point, all of Nissan's cars ran on gas. Or, it's like buying a new iPod nano and expecting to watch video on it, because all the previous models let you. Or, it's like buying a PlayStation 3 and expecting to play PlayStation 2 games on it, because the older models did.

Things change.

If you're spending significant money on something, it's wise to look up what it can do first. That's not trolling. It's being annoyed when people immaturely rant about things they would have known if they did 47 seconds of research prior to purchase.
[XPERIA X10 General] _EriK_:
We all know that the bigger don't have fm radio. But the question is if the hardware don't even support it or it's not implemented by SE...
[XPERIA X10 General] consolation:
I just can't believe there's no 8-track player in my X10, where will I plug the cartridges?

Sent from my ZX81.
[XPERIA X10 General] lft4ded:
Okay, okay. Now you're just being silly. If you took 30 seconds to look through the manual you'd see that you have to pull the battery to find the 8-track slot. :D
[XPERIA X10 General] johndub71:
Mine must be updated cos i got a compact cassette deck on mine and a record player input.
[XPERIA X10 General] TRMB:
Let's get this thread back on topic.

The question isn't/wasn't does the X10 come with fm radio, the question is, did it come with the hardware chipset that can receive fm radio with the proper software.

for those of you being childish enough to comment on other users grammar, you must realize that many people from many countries use this forum, and they make their best attempt at correctly writing in English, lets not criticize.

also if users biggest answer was "read the specs" then why have we all looked for gone gone through the motions to get other features such as multi-touch support... that wasn't in the specs...

there is alot of great hardware built into the X10, quite alot of it was never able to reach its full potential without XDA developers freeing up the availability for these things on this device.

so the question remains, is the hardware in place that with proper software we could activate and use this devise to receive fm radio. The reason for wanting to receive fm radio doesn't matter, its the fact that it may be another restriction on this device that may have been left on SE that we can lift to enhance this device.

Personally I know my reasoning for wanting FM radio on this device is so that I can tap in to a few FM transmitting Bugs I have set up in my residence so i can from my device listen in to conversations others may be having behind my back, or to check up on what the dogs are doing when i cannot see them.

so if someone has the answer to the questions " does the X10 have the hardware in it that could be used with proper software to receive FM signals" I would greatly appreciate that answer.
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
Thread is dead.. dead thread.

Necrobump....

X_X
[XPERIA X10 General] deveron3:
Hahaha! I remember this old thread! *bump*

lol
[Hero CDMA General] dbldown768:
I have an unrooted hero I have had since launch day. I am now thinking about rooting my hero with use of the latest Sprint leak. my understanding is if you update to the leak of even the official builld whenever that may come out, it will close all current rooting holes available. I guess that doesn't mean in the future there won't be other possibilities. do these new build give the same sense of stability as the official roms because we can now use an official 2.1 kernal?

so from what I have been reading there appears to be only one Rom that is based on the current 2.1 leak and that is flipz Rom? I have a few questions or statements before I do anything to my phone. one, will this help get rid of the lag when typing? two, I need to make sure Bluetooth is still going to work as I have a home phone that I connect my cell to when I enter the door. if I decided to flash back to the official release, is that possible?
[Hero CDMA General] pseudoremora:
As of right now; many people are cautious about testing the latest 2.1 leak; because of the concerns you expressed earlier -- having your phone unrooted by the 2.1 leak when you flash the new update. So, with that said; the

current

2.1 ROM's are all pretty stable. This new leak, however probably is as well, but again... I don't know whose all tested it, for fear of loosing root access.

No. Damageless ROM's are also based on the latest Sprint leaks. All ROM's you see should tell which ROM they are based off of. Almost all 2.1 ROM's are currently built from any of the Damageless ROM's -- just read the front page of the ROM you're looking into.

1. Possibly. The lag problem is relative to the person/device. Not everyone experiences this problem. However, turning off "Vibrate when typing" apparently helps with the lag issues. YMMV.

2. Please see first post I made.
[Hero CDMA General] dbldown768:
Thanks for the quick reply. I'm investigating the best way of rooting my phone. I see there are a few ways listed on the wiki, but then i just ran across Fresh Kitchen (http://geekfor.me/new-release/fresh-kitchen-105)? This is suppose to root your phone for you? Is this a stable way of rooting or should i just use the command line mehods? Also, i have read that you should do a nandroid backup of your phone? Not sure if fresh is doing this for you? The other thing i should mention is that i just have a stock microSD card, so I dont plan on using app2sd, i dont think this is a problem correct?

I also see people load their roms using their microSD card and just putting some update.zip file on there. Is this the standard procedure once you root your phone and get a rom loaded?
[Hero CDMA General] abcdfv:
Actually, Fresh 2.1, and 2.1.1 are the only ones as of right based off of the newest leak (signed with release keys rather then test), Damageless and Treve are currently working on improving DCUpdater, DConfig, and building a new ROM from the release-keys build.

As far as how to root, I recommend the command line method. While the auto-root methods are nice, actually doing it yourself will give you some experience with things you're gonna be using.

Yes, loading the update.zip to the root of the SDCard is the standard way to flash.

No, not using Apps2SD is not a problem, most people use it because they have a faster SDCard, which gives better performance when loading apps.

A Nandroid backup is something that you will do before you flash any update.zip (At least you're supposed to). It's basically an "Image" of your phone exactly how it was the point in time that you made it, so if you flash something and everything goes horribly wrong, you can restore said nandroid, and it will be like it never happened. (The exceptions are flashing a radio and screwing with the PRL/PRI, nandroid doesn't touch those.)
[Hero CDMA General] pseudoremora:
Fresh's kitchen will allow you root your phone and yes it's stable. However, it's best you try doing it via ADB commands, as there will come a time when you'll want to create things for the community and wished you had prior experience using it. I recommend you trying to root via this tutorial HERE If you follow the directions, you shouldn't have any problems whatsoever.

Stock card is perfectly fine; you're able to use Apps2sd, but don't have to.

To try out different ROM's -- the process is to download the file (which is a update.zip file in itself), but has been renamed to match the name of the ROM. All you have to do is; copy to your sd card, boot into recovery, flash ROM from the sd card, reboot.

There's your real answer. Thanks.
[Hero CDMA General] dbldown768:
I'm having a hard time understanding why i would need the flash recover image in this tutorial (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=583291)? I understand i would want to do a backup of the current phones state, but why would i flash anything before actually making this backup? Maybe i'm not understanding the process correctly, but i just want to get "su" ability and then do the nandroid backup? Is the nandroid backup an app i use?
[Hero CDMA General] abcdfv:
Nandroid is built into the recovery image you're flashing. Before flashing the recovery image, there is no way for you to nandroid.
[Hero CDMA General] dbldown768:
thanks! after watching the youtube video posting that mad more sense. So i know there is a chance of bricking your phone during all of this, where does that chance increase? Is it during the flashing of the customs roms, not so much the rooting process?

It is safe to say once the "official" 2.1 android comes out there will always be a custom rom based on it? meaning that if chosen by developers here there could be a build off the "official" 2.1 with the only difference is the rooted user is still allowed? I know that most dev are going to change the build in someway to "improve" on what the official build is done.
[Hero CDMA General] abcdfv:
The only proven way to brick this phone is by flashing a GSM radio, or by having a failed RUU. I've never heard of anyone getting a "true" brick from rooting/flashing ROMs.

Yes, once the official build is released, all ROMs from then on are most likely going to be based of off it.
[Hero CDMA General] dbldown768:
Ok, stupid question. I just followed the guide to rooting my phone, doing the nandroid backup and copying the backup to my pc. There are a lot of guide to root, but how to you actually flash the custom rom? I saw something about holding down the 'home' button when starting up? Does this bring you to the recovery image again? Do the roms have to be named something specifically?
[Hero CDMA General] abcdfv:
Place the ROM in the root of your sdcard, and boot into recovery by holding Home+Power. From then select the "Flash update.zip" option and it will show all of the .zip files in the root of your sdcard. Just pick which one you want to flash.
[Hero CDMA General] dbldown768:
great! thanks for all the help.
[Hero CDMA General] dbldown768:
ok, so i decided to load damage's sprint leak that would still give me root access, well it doesnt boot. just goes to the "sprint now" screen and reboots over and over again? any ideas?
[Hero CDMA General] abcdfv:
Did you wipe data and Dalvik?

Anytime you go from one ROM version to another (1.5 to 2.1, 2.1 to 1.6, 1.6 to 1.5, etc etc) you have to wipe, or if there's major changes between rom versions.
[Hero CDMA General] dbldown768:
what do you wipe the data? i just picked the flash from zip file from sd card?
[Hero CDMA General] abcdfv:
In recovery there's a catagory for wipe. Wipe data and Dalvik, then reflash and you'll be fine.
[Hero CDMA General] dbldown768:
cool. thanks. trying that now.
[Hero CDMA General] dbldown768:
so everything is working now. So i know one of the main benefits of having a rooted is phone is wifi teathering. Are apps like this in the market place or only on here?
[Hero CDMA General] abcdfv:
There's Easytether and PDAnet. I haven't tried Easytether, since last I've heard it's x86 only, but PDAnet was a horrible experience. I just flashed an Eris based ROM, broke my PRI, and it enabled the built in USB tethering.
[Hero CDMA General] fullthrottleenergy:
go to market and download barcode scanner

open up barcode scanner and go here and then just point the camera at the qr code and it'll download to your phone.

remember to check 'unknown sources' > setting > applications

wifitether 1.6. works flawlessly on either fresh or damageless latest 2.1
[Hero CDMA General] Kcarpenter:
Full Throttle is the best energy drink ever. I drink a blue agave every morning.

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[Nexus One Themes and Apps] speed213:
Hi, been playing around with roms the last week, an noticed that the Desire rom would turn off the button lights when you entered night mode in the clock.

I was wondering if this is possible CM?

Thanks
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] D_Toma:
just download the leds hack application and you can set it to turn them off anytime its attached to power, or after a certain time
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] serialtoon:
This didnt work for me. Does it only work on the stock launcher?
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] D_Toma:
when u selected the phone did u select nexus one or nexus one cm? if u are using cm rom u need too select the nexus one cm
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] ikon8:
Awesome, I've been looking for an app that does this.

Link for those looking for it.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] FormelLMS:
LEDs Hack is really cool!!

works great with my desktop dock!
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] speed213:
Thanks LEDs Hack worded a treat! :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] -2y2k-:
hope its not too much to ask but

it would be easier on some of the newer people if you guys could also upload the benchmark scores such as linpack and softweg (if not neocore) when releasing a newer version of your ROM

i think it would help your downloads a lot

what do you think? unless these dont neccessarily show us how snappy the Roms are?
[HD2 General] ILS_SuperNova:
Hey All

I didnt do much to my phone last night . . .put a new sms tone on it thats about it. . .woke up this morning and when I press the send key to open up recent calls etc . . .the dial screen has changed from the nice looking one to a horrible basic (windows looking one) :confused:

I didnt install a new dial screen , havent played around with anything like that yet but some how it has changed???

How do I get my old dial screen back??

I tried doing a soft reset ,,disable sense and turn it back on but nothing

cheers guys
[HD Mini General] lamcho:
:eek::eek:

The SPRITE for it is only avaliable in SEA!

My SN gives this software is not compatible with your device!!!!

PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!
[HD Mini General] lostindark:
Why you've try to use sprite , use SPB Backup. I have problem with sprite.
[HD Mini General] rigo007:
sprite is quite useless..u got tons of other applications