yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] gotaction86:
*Sigh* Way to go Microsoft. It's not crucial but it is annoying. Otherwise, a great build so far. If you do find a fix (that doesn't require it to be cooked in), could you please try to remember to post it. I don't know if I'll get any of the newer builds unless there is a real good reason, I'm very happy with this one. Thanks again and thanks for the quick response.

EDIT: Actually it seems like that would be a registry value (knowing MS), like the redirect for the SMS unlock or something. If not, it theoretically could be fixed by replacing the lockscreen (or maybe sms) files from another build. Sound possible?

EDIT 2: According to this post: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4268138&postcount=3, you can change the application that launches from the notifications. I noticed that in his example, they all point to the same application (OEMApp), so if this SMS is the only change (or worth ignoring other changes), maybe that file could simply be reverted. Or diff'ed then modified. I don't have the full kitchen or anything but I could potentially take a look at the single files. I would assume that they are in the locked portion of the ROM, so they would have to be cooked in, I think.

EDIT 3: Or you could potentially just have the old OEMAPP.EXE renamed to something like OEMAPPCLASSIC.EXE sitting next to the current OEMAPP.EXE and make SMS response the only one that calls that application, might be the solution with the least impact to everything else and not even require cooking, just need to reapply after each hard reset.

I think I used to have the problem you were describing on trashcan's old 6.5 build. It would happen whenever I had a huge number of messages on my phone, because the phone had to index them all and such, and it did it relatively inefficiently. My text message screen would basically hang and wouldn't respond until it was done, sometimes I couldn't even "OK" out of it. The solution that someone suggested (and I went with and has worked pretty well) is to sync up using MyPhone and then archive the older messages on the web and sync again (or delete them on the phone, in which case, they should automatically be archived by MyPhone from what I read on the MyPhone site, but I haven't tried it). That might help you some.

Another thing I just thought of is that I store my messages on my phone and not on a storage card. I don't know if anyone that has never had the problem stores everything on a storage card but one of those may have a faster read/write speed than the internal flash, but I HIGHLY doubt that, might be worth a shot though.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] .fenrir:
Well until I get more bug reports on the current 'beta' ROM I've been working on a 96dpi ROM. I've had more success this time around then my previous attempts in the past but still its far from ready. Attached are some preview screenshots for everyone to see. The biggest problem right now is stuff like the last screenshot where its just complete white...

Its not that simple and also our phones don't work like that. Don't forget, first and foremost xda is mainly based upon the HTC devices. So a lot of stuff doesn't work for us. The structure of the HTC devices vs the Samsung devices have a lot of differences. In particular, a lot of HTC devices use the HTC Messaging, which Samsung obviously doesn't and uses the default WM. What you were referring to is specifically for HTC devices since a lot of their functionality is in the OEM. We don't have a key under that with an exe file. For the Samsung devices its mainly just base drivers in the OEM and that's about it. There's no extra eye-candy and everything else just uses the base WM. In short, that's not how it works unfortunately. We don't have a notification app like the HTC devices, although it can be implemented as others have shown.

Like I said its a 'message enhancement' that's existent on many of the new(er) builds. Its not a registry edit, the registries generally don't change at all. They updated the actual dll's. Problem is taking a dll from another build can cause incompatibility so its a hassle to get it working. If it were this simple someone would have already found a fix for it by now, but I haven't seen anyone even mention a fix for this anywhere yet.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Grey Ghost:
Looking good so far Fenrir! I'm sure a lot of your fans will like some 96dpi goodness.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] gotaction86:
:( That's too bad. Well keep up the good work, guess I'll just learn to live with it.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] keff:
Hmm, I think I know what you are talking about:

When I open a message thread and do something significant (write another SMS, delete SMS), and then return to the list of threads, I see the remains of a previous screen above the list of SMS threads, where a buttons to select different folder and sort order reside. This takes 1-20 seconds to clean up, pretty randomly.

What hapens is that I have *a lot* of SMS (I don't want to delete anything - I keep about 5000 sms, about 1:1 of incoming/outgoing), and even though they are stored in SQL Server Compact (which is a database engine designed to handle large ammounts of data), with this number of SMS's, it is sometimes slow - so the messaging app returns to main list, enumerates something that should be pretty fast with a normal number of messages, and as Microsoft's designers didn't assume this operation would last so long, they didn't do it in background, so then the application is waiting for that operation to complete and meanwhile it is locked.

In these cases, I can switch to different app and continue to work there (althought the phone is a bit slower), and the slowdown is usually resolved in several seconds.

Why this happens? Mobile devices have small ammounts of RAM, so the general guideline is to keep as much of it as possible free. Therefore, the SMS database is saved on internal memory (which is orders of magnitude slower than RAM), and when some modification is required, the change is done in the database in internal memory (also, you cannot have it RAM only - if a message arrives, and your phone would reset seconds later, you would expect to still have the message saved).

Now, databases are highly optimized to be fast for almost all operations, which is done using algorithms with ammortized cost: that means that most of the operations are fast, but once some threshold is reached (like a size of allocated buffer), some housekeeping is required, which then moves a lot of data. For example, you can delete items quickly, but once you delete enought of them, you reshuffle all data to fill the empty space after removed items - and that takes hundred of internal memory drive operations, which translates into seconds or tens of seconds with the access time and transfer rates of internal memory.

Therefore there is nothing I (or you) can do to resolve this, except deleting 90+% of messages - it is simply a scenario that Microsoft's developers didn't consider to be occuring often, so they probably decided to spend their time elsewhere than optimizing the system for people with thousands of messages.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] gistofit:
message ghost bug

very interesting. I think you know what i am talking about. I just discovered that for me it DOES happen when i view a message from the home screen(not through the actual message client) and then delete it from the menu. if i then go to the message screen i will have the "message ghost".

my problem is I don't keep all my messages. I recently deleted them all just to see if the problem would go away.

I believe it occurs only when i have just enough messages to scroll (i.e. 4 messages = no problem, 5 or more = message ghost)

So i wish it was what you were saying and that i could make it go away by just deleting a bunch of messages BUT i don't think that is the case.

FYI my message settings are:

in notifications:

-play sound

-no message on screen

-no flash light

-vibrate

in message options:

-priority:normal

-expiration: maximum

-delivery time: immediately

-message size:595 kb

-no check in box for "request delivery report"

-no check in box for "request read report"

i believe the message option settings are default.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] justDave:
Nah, they didnt randomly change. I probably hit the wrong key in GPSTest. Anyway, those registry settings got me going again.

Once you get the 96dpi stuff together, do you think you could release them as a cab?

Thanks!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] .fenrir:
Following up on what keff said, when you deleted the messages did you delete them from the Inbox only? Or did you also delete them from the Trash as well? I don't know if that would make a difference...but worth a try. Since I don't save my text messages when I flash I guess I don't have a mass amount of them to try to get my phone to replicate this...if it is indeed the source of the problem.

Glad it helped. I'll see if that's feasible. heineken did post a 96dpi cab for 128dpi. You can try that in the meantime, and also find out if it does work. http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=7324581&postcount=23
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Bloody Baron:
I think your build has gotten trouble with GPS. It's drained Phone's battery so much when i ran the GPS application? (i didnt get it when used trashcan's build)

Can you check it, please?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] veener79:
I have the beta and everything is greta except for the GPS. It it back to how the phone was before ID1 when it take a try or two to get a GPS signal. When the new ATT update I got it right away.

Except for that every is great. Phone seems to be working faster with everything else.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Grey Ghost:
trying your latest beta, haven't poked at GPS yet but everything else seems to be working, one odd occurance was that the phone needded a battery pull after a full charge but that may have just been a freak occurance.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] .fenrir:
Have you updated with the official 6.5 update yet? Which one of my ROMs are you using?

Hmm that's odd. So the GPS isn't as quick as it was? If you could, could you try going into GPSTest.exe. Menu -> Option and changed the SUPL Server to http://192.168.0.35:7275 or you can go into the registry and change the following key to what is shown

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Samsung\RIL\GPS]
ServerAddress=http://192.168.0.35:7275

It'd be great if you could tell me how things work out then.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] veener79:
I did the setting change. This weekend I have some driving to do and other things. I will test it out and see if it improves or not.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Bloody Baron:
I've used your newest build! And i also got the official 6.5 update before.:confused:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] heineken78:
Live with that. Also on i780 with GPS on it can take 50-60 min from full to empty level.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sfleuriet:
Fenrir, your ROM looks great - I just installed the latest. I had the official 6.5 update and my Internet & MMS was working flawlessly. However, with your ROM I can't get them both to work - only one or the other. Any idea which settings are different? Thanks

Also, the startup/shutdown animations and sound are great :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] .fenrir:
I'll assume the beta but just like heineken said you're going to have to deal with it. The GPS is going to drain the battery and there isn't much that can be done to control that. I just used my GPS the other day. Battery at 60% and after a hour drive it went down to 20%.

Glad you like it. Are you using IE? If so have you checked the Proxy Manager under Settings? Also when you're using the latest are you using 23668 v1 or v2 beta of it? If you're using 23668 v1 it should work fine since I didn't touch any of the connection settings in there. In v2 beta I deleted the AT&T connections to see how things will play out for non-AT&T users.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sfleuriet:
Yes I am using IE. I've tried the Proxy Manager checkbox both ways. I worked for an hour on settings and just can't get it. I have IE and Email working fine, but MMS will not work with it. If I change one of the drop-downs under the Select Networks menu, MMS will work, but then IE/Email will not!

I'm also seeing an issue with SMS - if I click on the New Message tile on the home screen, it goes straight to that SMS, but doesn't mark it as unread. I have to go back in to the message a second time before it counts it as unread. Not a big deal to me, but just pointing it out in case it hasn't been addressed already.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] .fenrir:
Hmmmm I'm not sure why this is happening. I haven't touched the MMS settings at all...which ROM specifically are you using? I just tried on my phone and I'm able to send MMS no problem what's your current setting under Settings? Err what network is it on? Also which one causes MMS to work and which causes IE & Email to work?

Regarding the SMS, unfortunately its a problem with the newer builds of 6.5. There isn't much I can do to fix it unless an newer build addresses it, or another user finds a fix.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sfleuriet:
I'm using 23668 v2 beta on AT&T. Basically, once IE connects and the second 3G logo shows up at the top, it works fine. If I try MMS then, it doesn't work. But if its not connected to a data session, MMS will work fine (but then IE wont). I have to "disconnect" after using IE (second 3G logo disappears, antenna logo comes back) before MMS will connect and work. I hope that makes sense..
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Garbanzo:
Epix cooking with OsKitchen Zero?

EDIT: IT WORKS. Noob me didn't unplug the USB cable which apparently is a must for the first boot.

So all i changed was delete the giisr.dll folder from OEMXIPKernel folder. I'll post on the OsKitchen Zero thread to see if Airextreme can put a Epix profile in there for next build.

Now to removing all the AT&T crap, if you have any feedback on this .fenrir, it'd be much appreciated. Maybe someone can write a batch file to run. If there is interest, I'll open a new thread specific to Epix cooking with OSKitchen Zero.

.fenrir, sorry for hijacking your thread for a moment, even if just talking to myself ;-)

G

Hey .fenrir,

Great rom, so far I've not had any issues.

I have looked in vain for a spanish rom for Epix so I figured I have to cook one myself. I have not done any cooking before, only flashed various phones, but I stumbled upon the OsKitchen Zero which seems very easy to use and works for i900.

I've read up on the basics for cooking and started by importing the official Samsung 6.5 update into the kitchen.

Now, to rule out errors on my side I have tried to recook the official rom without any changes to make sure I can get the kitchen to work.

Kitchen spat out a .bin file and I flashed the phone with Grand Prix, but got stuck at the Samsung bootscreen.

Read a bit on i900 forums, found out, I have to delete giisr.dll folder. Done

This time Rom passes Samsung boot screen, passes AT&T bootup animation, but I get stuck at the orange Windows screen where it hangs forever (before it welcomes you, with the MS copyright info etc).

.fenrir, i hope you can give some pointers to me and other aspiring cooks, which files/special folders needs attention/modifying.

If we can get the Epix rom running through OsKitchen Zero, I think most people will feel more comfortable jumping into cooking on this phone.

And as you 've mentioned, pretty much no matter how much you f... up the PDA part, you can always reinstall a working rom again. So IMHO it's a good phone to learn this stuff on.

Obviously my next step is to port a build which has spanish language files, but I'll cross that bridge when I get there.

Let me know if I should post this in the OsKitchen Zero thread instead, but I figured your expertise is what I need here.

If enough people find it interesting to get this phone supported in OsKitchen Zero now that we have an official WM6.5 to build on, then maybe we can start a new thread on this subject.

Thanks

G
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Garbanzo:
Well, I was too quick. Turns out I now have the USB freezing problem. Must be something the kitchen is doing. fenrir, how did you solve this in your early roms?

Thanks

G
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] .fenrir:
Just a note to all: I've come to realize that there are some AT&T settings that can't be entirely removed. As it has been stated numerous types flashing ROMs on our phones only modify the 'PDA' part of our phones and leave the 'PHONE' part untouched. Thanks to this, its pretty difficult to actually brick our phones while flashing. Its been annoying me for some time why some AT&T settings are in the phone when I've completely removed them from the ROM. It seems that some AT&T settings are imported into the ROM from the PHONE part during the first initial boot. Considering trashcan's ROMs also had AT&T settings in it despite him also having cleaned them out further makes me believe this to be the case. So on the AT&T crapware front, its safe to say the ROMs are as AT&T-free as they can get now.

In short: Some AT&T settings are imported into our phones after flashing and can only be removed manually.

EDIT: Planning on releasing a newer ROM by the end of this month. Seems like the newer builds still have the SMS annoyances. Work on the 96dpi ROM has been a bit sluggish lately but I'll get around to it soon.

I understand the problem you're having now though I'm not entirely sure what could be causing this. Try the attached cab and tell me if it makes a difference.

Don't you love it when you think its working perfectly and something else just has to break just to prove you wrong? Well get use to this feeling cause you'll get it a lot while cooking.

Its been a while since the USB problem since I fixed it a while back (with help from heineken as well). Honestly I never narrowed it down to what it was specifically but its either the package order while building the ROMs or a problem with the XIP porting. Most likely its the package order so you're going to have to edit packages.sif and packages.cof under SYS. OEMs should be last if they're not, problems like the USB arise.

I never used OSKitchen Zero, however I did briefly use the original OSKitchen. I don't think I ever got a working ROM from it. At the time I was unaware of giisr.dll causing problems so looking back, that probably was it.

As for cleaning up the AT&T crap I don't really have any bat files to do it since I did it all manually. Once you delete it once its gone anyways so really no need automation. Just delete anything that looks like its related to AT&T. They generally has AT&T or use ATT in the name some where. When you delete files always make sure you edit/delete the references to it in the registry. I don't remember the AT&T settings overwriting any factory WM settings so you should be able to delete most of them no problem.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Garbanzo:
Thanks for the quick reply. Maybe this post can help you with the SMS issue?

EDIT: Not allowed to post links yet, it post #657 by AndrewSH in this thread:

xda-developers > Chef Central > Windows Mobile/Windows Phone

Latest Windows Mobile Builds [SYS|XIP.bin]

Now that you mention package order, I did see a post about that from heineken. Will try.

I didn't expect you had a bat file, I was just thinking if OSKitchen Zero is as easy as it looks, maybe others like me would like to start cooking for the Epix and would be in the same boat in regards to cleaning out AT&T crap. I'll try to keep a log of what I delete (I don't use AT&T so I want as much gone as possible) and who knows maybe someone can do a Y/N/ALL kinda bat file to clean bloatware for others.

Thanks again,

G
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Grey Ghost:
So I just realized while fiddling with things like Garmin Mobile XT and gpstest that the aGPS doesn't try and initiate my Data connection which you would think would happen to dial for the positional assist data. I'm wondering if it's some sort of entertwined connection settings that may be bungled

Edit: So I fired up the wi-fi, went out into the back yard overcast drizzly day, after about a minute I got a GPS fix with google maps 5 or so satalites closed that, fired up garmin, instant lock since the phone now had the positional data, can even get a fix in the house like this. Just a note I'm using the AT&T supl server address.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sfleuriet:
Fenrir - I installed that CAB. Then I connected to a webpage on IE, and then tried to send a MMS message. Unfortunately, it still wouldn't connect to send the message. I get the same "Cannot Connect... Dialed: wap.cingular" message.

I know when I first installed the Official WM6.5 ROM, I didn't touch any settings and the internet/email and MMS worked flawlessly. Does that help any? I've tried to reproduce those settings, but it just hasnt worked. Thank you
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] goldenpipes:
i think your settings are wrong.

i deleted all of the settings completely and used GPRSmgr.exe and i can send an mms surf on PiE or opera or skyfire and nothing ever messes up. using the latest fenrir rom and on At&t
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Grey Ghost:
Tested the GPS again today results follow:

*Test software was garmin mobile XT

~AT&T SUPL server~

Test 1 out in the yard: GPS took roughly 3 minutes to lock no data connection was dialed during this test indicating system fell back to stand alone GPS.

Ran GPRSmgr.exe from the windows directory selected AT&T confirmed exited and soft reset the phone.

Test 2 idoors: opened up garmin, software started to dial out on 3G connected and GPS lock was obtained in about 10 seconds.

~Nokia SUPL server~

After test 2 in the AT&T phase I switched to the Nokia server address and soft reset the epix:

Test 1 indoors: Garmin initiated a gprs dial but I never acquired any lock.

*soft reset the Epix

Test 2 Outside: Garmin initiated a grps dial again after about 20 seconds lock was achieved, quality lock wise was 5 satellites just above minimum.

All in all the aGPS works granted your handset dials out automatically otherwise it'll fall back to a stand alone mode to reach a sat lock. I should also note that contrary to my previous post having wi-fi on to try and get a server response if your phone never dials out seems to not work 99% of the time.

Edit: After running GPRSmgr.exe I've found that you can rename and edit the connection name apn etc that it made without the dial out breaking.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] fibrolan:
Reflash and No sound

Hi,

I reflashed my phone and it worked and everything was ok then all of a sudden I have no sound. the phone works and vibrates BUT NO sound. I have tried to reflash but nothing.

Any ideas out there ?

Fibrolan
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sfleuriet:
Thank you so much for posting that. I never knew GPRSmgr.exe existed! It is working like new again. :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] veener79:
I am sorry it took me so long to reply. I have been very busy. Good thing about being busy and around I have been playing a lot with the GPS.

This change did not make a big differeance at all. It is still not as good as the offical ROM. With the beta I can not get GPS signal inside the house. In my car I have to put the phone on my dash before the roof line to first get the signal. Once I have signal I can move the phone around in the car and I will not loose the signal. I had this issue in the build before the Beta.

I am not sure what is different in the beta and offical rom in the GPS drivers or software settings. The offical rom is still better.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] goldenpipes:
i don't know why you guys are having GPS issues I use my GPS almost every day and it gets a lock within seconds and it never drops satellites or anything.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] fibrolan:
Hi everyone,

Any advice on my problem please ?

Fibrolan