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[G1 General] gajodafeira:
Hi guys, im thinking one G1 too and leaving forever WM and my Kaiser.

Here im Portugal even in second hand there are a litle bit expansive, as all the HTC are... The cheapest G1 e found is from 130€!

I friend of mine have an Acer with android SO with 1000mhz cpu... First i love HTC, i had 6 models and the possibility of change rom and stuff are brutal. He said that G1 is totally discontinued, and i am afraid that when i update it to the lastest rom available it comes slow :S But ok, it will be always better than an Acer, even not talking about the qwerty keyboard.

The battery of my Kaiser with normal use of GSM, rarely WIFI and some times GPS longs 2 days, i hope G1 too, that's the aceptable for me.

Im accustomed to rom change on WM i hope on android thing thats not hard!

G1 thats not beautiful and thats not ugly, its different, but ok, all the HTC are. Its bigger than Kaiser but smaller than my lovely HTC Universal, maybe the best phone i ever had!

I believe in XDA-Devs forum, i have been using it for 3 years, used more than 50 different roms, i will read all of your possibile and updated reviews with actual roms, because if it would be positive, my thread home will change.
[G1 General] mejorguille:
Have you tried out an android rom on your kaiser? You will have a hard time getting more then a day of battery on your G1. I use it a lot, from 7:00 to 3:00 I still have 40% left, but that's with using it for a few hours and some music, in a place with low signal, and no gps or wifi. And a lot of the roms for the G1 are a helluvalot faster then stock, FYI.

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[G1 General] gajodafeira:
No i have not tried that on Kaiser... The border of the lcd makes the touch experience hard, the new htc and the androids are made for finger touch and no stylus, i wanna try that and much more. Im a little bit afraid of the change to a new device, android for example. Im used to wm, my sweet tomtom gps very very powerful, very efficient here in portugal and if g1 suck im screwed. i have th think about it, i think it will be nice some reviews, because all i found in the web was reviews from 2 years ago, and thats nothing, because of the evolution of the roms. its hard to update for a new rom? this week, i will abandon windows and start using linux full time, for WM thats complicated, for android too?
[G1 General] vicedens2002:
Just found a Hero for 150 pounds:D , is it worth it or not ?

Thanks
[G1 General] gajodafeira:
I need/love/... qwerty keyboard... And think, how many people in your workplace/university/city have a G1? Damn exclusive design :P Im really think on it.
[G1 General] mark1316:
G1 is a good phone to cut your teeth on. I bought one just to try it out before my Upgrade is due and I pick up a desire.

Mine will be hitting ebay soon with an asking price of £95 with delivery ontop.
[G1 General] gajodafeira:
Oh why? You dont like yours? My Kaiser is not fast, small or pretty, my previous phones too, so...
[G1 General] dcramer27:
I also bought a g1 as my first android phone, in fact I still have it and love it, I can't speak to the change in diffaculty in switching roms on a winmo phone but once you do it the first time on android it becomes an addiction

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[G1 General] gajodafeira:
Of course... The first time i flashed my qtek s100 was insane! In three days i broke it and a had to pay to solve it :D

But thats a piece of work the root thing, and the first flash to boot up SO 2.2 or something? A friend like i said told me that G1 is overpassed, but i believe on it, G1 is a crazy thing for me, thats the revolution, the first, the incredible :P
[G1 General] gajodafeira:
Folks, a G1 appeard in the bidding world here in Portugal but with AZERT keyboard! Its cheapest, its half than a qwerty one... What do you think? Maybe i buy later a qwerty keyboard, i dont know, i want a damn G1, please give me ur opinion.
[Nexus One General] xxjoshuaaxx:
So I realized this the moment after I hit the trackball to select my .zip. To make things simple: I had cyanogen 5.0.6 and I accidentally flashed 2.2 for custom bootloaders. My phone won't even turn on...AT ALL. Am I ****ed?
[Nexus One General] jerrycycle:
Can you not get in the recovery image by holding down trackball and power button?
[Nexus One General] xxjoshuaaxx:
No. :( I don't know what to do. I flashed the Stock image earlier and it took awhile for my phone to turn on, but it did start up after a few minutes. Also it had a Radio that it flashed. Could it have been for the Tmobile model? I am on the AT&T version. Nothing will turn on. :(
[Nexus One General] jabulon:
did you try removing the battery ?
[Nexus One General] xxjoshuaaxx:
I did. I called support and they want me to send it in. Hopefully I will be one of the lucky people that HTC takes even if there is some broken rules.
[Nexus One General] SirLegolas:
Awwww

Best of luck!

Since its just Software related, maybe you will get lucky
[Nexus One General] Eclair~:
Exactly why I try to avoid toying with the radio at all times..
[Nexus One General] xxjoshuaaxx:
Stupid me didn't notice the radio change. What do you think HTC will do?
[Nexus One General] SANTilt:
Good luck. They are currently denying my warranty - even though my last Nexus went in TWICE, and they even DOA replaced it with body damage and an unlocked bootloader. Both times they just reverted the software back to locked, no questions asked. This time, after sending in the refurbed phone they gave me last month due to a faulty headphone jack, they say my "illegal software" voids my warranty - even though software can't break a headphone jack.
[Nexus One General] pjcforpres:
That could also be their way of saying we have fixed two phones of yours with unlocked (voided) warranties, we aren't doing it a third time... aka, three strikes and you are out. To be honest, I would be singing the praises of a company that warrantied a phone twice, even though I knowingly voided my warranty and agreed to a contract saying as much during the process.

OP, good luck! As this person's history shows, they are willing to go above and beyond with in reason. If I were you, before sending it in, I would try tossing it on the charger to make sure the battery isn't dead... flashing uses up a lot of juice, and messes with battery stats to an extent that can cause the phone to think a low battery is actually a dead battery, thus it doesn't power on since it doesn't want to die mid boot, which is bad.
[Nexus One General] krabman:
Yeah, plug it in and see if you get the charging led, if you do let it charge for a while. Then try booting to recovery. If you cant unplug it and pull the battery. Plug it back in and hold down the power button for 15 seconds, put the battery in while still holding the power button for another 15 seconds or so. You got nothing to lose if it is bricked so give it a go. Check back if it lights off. Just a hint but I only keep whatever I'm going to flash on the root of the sd with the rest of the zips in a file. Keeps you from being where you are now.
[Nexus One General] balenax:
mind keepping the battery out for a little while. i got the same problem yesterday and this solved it : i kept the battery pulled for about 1 minute before i put it back in. then the phone powered on no problems.
[Nexus One General] djmcnz:
Rhetorical question:

What type of bad "luck" does somebody have to need a warranty replacement three times for a phone that's less than 4 months old?
[Nexus One General] Clarkster:
I may be stupid, but that doesn't sound like you were doing anything wrong. I think that is how many people upgraded to FroYo.

What did you do when you thought you had done the wrong thing? You say you realized the moment you hit the trackball. Did you then try to stop it by pulling the battery? If so then you may have pulled it while the radio was flashing, which would brick it for sure. :(
[Nexus One General] cmarti:
Maybe they say it's illegal because Froyo is not released yet and they saw part of it installed on your N1.

This sucks big time, I wish you best of luck and I hope they end up fixing it for you.
[Nexus One General] zedmec:
what happens when you hold volume down and hit power...does the bootloader come up?

I flashed 2.2 over enomther's 1.9.2 on my att frequency n1 and it is working fine, I did the radio update too and it works fine.
[Nexus One General] SANTilt:
Why would I sing the praises of a company that picks and chooses when it will void a warranty and when it will honor it? Furthermore, under the Manusson-Moss Warranty act of 1975, this behavior is illegal; warrantors of consumer goods cannot void a warranty due to modifications made by the consumer unless they can directly attribute the failure to the modification made. Which they have not done in my case.

Additionally, the first time it went in, was for dust under the screen - something an unlocked bootloader most definitely did not cause. The second time it went in was because they didn't fix it the first time - both times they relocked the phone. Also, the second time the phone went in, they DOA replaced it even though it had physical damage that I had previously been willing to pay for. And now, after they send me a damaged unit, they want to void my hardware warranty because the bootloader is unlocked? That just stinks of a money making scheme. I just called them, and they tell me that they cannot flash the motherboard due to the "illegal software", yet in the email they sent me it's all due to the warranty being void due to "illegal software". They're harping on a non-issue just to make money.

You can sing your praises to scheissty companies all you want - I'll stick to companies that are honest and up front in their dealings - or at least more so than HTFingC.
[Nexus One General] djmcnz:
Dude, you're pedantic and this is pathetic. Get over yourself. If you expect consumer goods in this day and age to be perfect you need to reset your expectations. Three claims in four months? I bet HTC wishes you went and got a Motorola.
[Nexus One General] SANTilt:
Huh? Three claims? Reading comprehension much? English > you.
[Nexus One General] ChillRays:
Yeah I agree.
[Nexus One General] djmcnz:
lol - ripe coming from an American, you can't even spell the language properly.
[Nexus One General] krohnjw:
When you unlock the boot loader you explicitly agree you are voiding any warranty. I think the only thing they are picking and choosing is when they will honor a warranty that the user voided. There was a rather lengthy legal discussion on this already - the language presented to unlock the boot loader is pretty straight forward and you are agreeing to void it when you unlock.

Again, when you unlock the boot loader you void your hardware warranty - you have to agree to that in order to unlock.

This isn't rocket science, it's pretty plain English. If it's a money making scheme they are doing a pretty poor job considering they *are* honoring some hardware warranties when they have no legal obligation to do so.

Sounds to me like they honored the (voided) warranty 2 times already and you are upset they won't honor it a third time after you voided your warranty for a third time....
[Nexus One General] krabman:
The Moss Mag act is voided if you modify something beyond its orignal intents and purposes or so as to be something different in such a way as to perform as something that was not sold to you. In other words getting the cheaper wipers at schucks instead of the dealership is fine, they are sold for the original purpose and intent and do not modify the equipment to perform in a way that was different to what was sold to you. Been there.
[Nexus One General] pjcforpres:
They explicitly tell you in plain english that you are voiding your entire warranty upon unlocking your boot loader. You have agreed to that 3 times. This is what we call a contract, that you have agreed to 3 times!
[Nexus One General] krumb:
agreed.

:rolleyes:
[Nexus One General] xXJay_RXx:
bro how the hell do u break your N1 3x in 4 months? i had it for 2 1/2 months and i didn't eve drop it once! the guy who got 3 replacements in 4 months, please take better care of it. phones usually don't stop working by itself... as for the OP, i hope the HTC employee that looks at your device has been having a good day n decides to repair your device despite the fact that you unlocked the bootloader
[Nexus One General] icegad:
Had to pay 200 to replace a mother board still better than 529 :/
[Nexus One General] Clarkster:
Anyways, you have all gotten off topic. This post should be about helping the OP with his phone. Not arguing with this other guy.
[Nexus One General] britoso:
"2.2 for custom bootloaders" ? do you have a link?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=686326

Can you verify that "fastboot" (power+trackball) and "recovery"(power+vol down) both dont work.
[Nexus One General] androidaddict23:
Your a moron

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[Nexus One General] xXJay_RXx:
wow steep price but you're right. $200 is better than $529. u gonna root it again? i doubt it lol it took me a month and a half of reading how to root and making sure i get my facts right for that exact reason. i took my sweet time rooting my nexus one. but still, be happy you're nexus one will be working again :)
[Nexus One General] Kman Gymrat:
I haven't read the whole thread so not sure if OP has gotten a solution to his apparently bricked phone but just to let you know what I went through...I got my phone with a section right across the top of the screen dead and non responsive but I didn't notice it cause there was no reason for me to touch up there. Eventually I got the balls to root and try ROMs and stuff and now was all excited with this awesome phone so I then started downloading apps and games which was when I noticed the dead section. Called up HTC and told them the problem and that I had rooted the phone then right away they said well the warranty was void so I immediately just accepted and said that's fine but will they fix it and charge me for it then which I don't mind since it'd be cheaper than getting a new one and they said sure no problem. Costed me $60 something plus the shipping (shipping cost only because I'm not in the US). In your case just for software I can't figure it being too much to pay for them to return it to stock so I'd say just accept the voided warranty and tell them you'll pay for the "repair" or whatever you'd call it for fixing a bricked phone. If I had tried to be persistent about warranty who knows maybe they'd have just refused completely.
[Nexus One General] pjcforpres:
Very honest of you! FYI, there is a member on here that works for Google (can't recall his name) that will advocate to get free warranty work on hardware issues with rooted phones, to an extent. I am sure there is a limit to it, but he has been good about helping members out.
[Nexus One General] Kman Gymrat:
Dam wish I knew that then, it's been months now but good to know for future...just need to know who it is
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ezeddiekun:
Everything works fine. I can boot into 2.1 stock and bootloader but I can't enter recovery. Everytime I try I get the damn Triangle and Android. I even tried factory reset which didn't do the trick. Can anyone help me?

I recently reverted back to stock 2.1 with an old nandroid backup. Today I downloaded the 2.2 Froyo manual update, didn't even put it on SD yet. So I rebooted into bootloader and pressed recovery and that came up. I read from a different post that the exclamation point and android stands for stock recovery but I never went back to stock recovery mode, only back to stock ROM.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evenheroesfall:
try pressing the power button with the volume up button at the same time. It might take a couple of times but you'll get somewhere. Try it out really quick and let me know

You might have done it on accident.

Go into the bootloader and fastboot flash your custom recovery again.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ezeddiekun:
Im trying to flash the custom recovery again but for some reason when I try adb devices it will not show my serial number. It only shows if I boot the phone into the stock rom, but won't on FastBoot USB.

Where do I put the recovery.img in the directory of Android SDK?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evenheroesfall:
can you power off and get into the bootloader? Sorry man, I'm confused.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ezeddiekun:
Yes I can.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evenheroesfall:
alright then, can you flash everything from fastboot?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ezeddiekun:
What do you mean flash from Fastboot? You mean recovery?

My device isn't recognized in Fastboot USB
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evenheroesfall:
put the custom recovery.img where you have fastbot access on your pc. Open command prompt and start fastboot.

Boot into bootloader (white screen with 3 androids)

type "fastboot devices" in command prompt

the type "fastboot flash recovery recovery.img"

Do you know what I'm talking about?

Im not saying your an idiot by writing this out so don't take offense lol
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ezeddiekun:
Gave me an error.

cannot load 'recovery.img'
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evenheroesfall:
is the recovery.img in the same folder as the fastboot access?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nDrg:
You have to replace recovery.img with the name of your recovery file. Download recovery-RA-nexus-v1.7.0.img from here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=611829

and type:

fastboot flash recovery recovery-RA-nexus-v1.7.0.img

This is assuming you wish to return to a custom and not stock recovery menu.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ezeddiekun:
Im an idiot when it comes to this. What do you mean fastboot access folder? The tools folder in AndroidSDK?

Problem solved guys.. Im a friggin idiot. I forgot to open the command prompt in the fastboot folder. omg -_-
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evenheroesfall:
Haha it's cool man, Just glad to got it
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Amdathlonuk:
Yes, you are an idiot... :D

Scares the sh*t out of me sometimes doing this stuff as well. Like to live dangerously though!!

Glad you got it sorted.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] magma9495:
I want to try out froyo and see it for myself but I've noticed a lot of bugs posted by users. Is it possible if I upgrade to froyo to flash back to Cyanogen 5.0.6?

Thanks :)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] seraphax:
just do a nandroid back up before you flash and if you don't like it, nandroid restore.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] magma9495:
that worked, thanks a lot! :)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Antiskunk:
Is there a way to set the Froyo shortcuts (dialer and browser) to launch a different app?

I need Dialer One instead of the default phone app so that I can use the dialer to find contacts by name/number with the keypad.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ImSoHungry:
No you can't. What you can do however, is download a home alternative, like zeam, and then use dialer one where you please.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Antiskunk:
Gah, seems like a waste to have it there and not use it...

Think I may have to get a different home app
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] S_Dot:
Getting like 15kB/sec download and 70kB/sec upload

Wth?

Real slow anyone else get this?

T-Mob USA btw.. Server in Philadelphia
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] george241312:
nope i got 2.15 mb/ps download and 1.31 mb/ps upload

127 ms in new york

but with the old radio i would get 3mb/s and 2mb/s
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djpingpong:
I noticed today my 3G seemed a tad slower. My speed tests are maybe 20% slower than usual. I got Tmo in Sacramento.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mikebeatrice:
well, before my 3g connection totally conked (i'm connected, but no data is being transferred at all.... happened after I installed adfree) I was getting terrible data rates, just like yours... I actually got up to 33k ish on the download tho... i'm in the Chicago area. Usually I can get around 1-1.5M in my area.

not to kang your thread, but any chance adfree somehow hosed me? if i turn on wifi, i can connect just fine... so it makes me think adfree was just a coincidence because I would think it would affect my browsing on wifi too.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kamasi36:
Same here . I flashed back to the 32.26.00.24u_4.04.00.03_2. Not a problem you wont brick your phone. My speeds were terrible with the new radio. I"m back up in the 900 kbs now . With the new radio I was averaging a 1/3 of that.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] S_Dot:
Noone can help me?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bestofrhcp:
yea i noticed that dl speeds are way slower than before... anyone know how to fix that?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] electronicrice:
What do you need help with? Try a different radio and see if that works for you. About all you can do.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] punk4bc:
New radio actually improved my speeds for ATT :cool:
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Paul22000:
Did it start immediately after you flashed FroYo or sometime afterwards?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 4wrestling:
I'm also here in Philadelphia on T-Mobile and am having the exact same issue. It began immediately after flashing. I'm quite frustrated at this point.

My N1 is not rooted. I went from stock 2.1 to stock 2.2.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sheek360:
Im also getting slower speeds here in miami. I kept the stock radio but changed from gsm auto prl to wcdma preffered and my data is close to 20 percent quicker according to speedtest.net app. i tried it over and over again on the smae spot and it was consistent. I went back to gsm auto prl and again my data got slower.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] S_Dot:
What speeds are you getting exactly?

Can anyone else in Philly confirm there is a 3G problem with the Nexus since like 4 days ago
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sheek360:
That's crazy considering that philly is supposed to have outstanding 3g coverage
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 4wrestling:
My upload speeds are actually fine. Here are my last few speedtest.net results (all are in kbps from the comcast server in philadelphia):

Down/Up

38/1350

26/1205

43/1406

4/1205

21/1467

I was not having any issues until I made the upgrade this morning to Froyo.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 4wrestling:
I disabled 3G and am downloading around 190kbps.

Do we need to change the radio? Is Tmobile in Philly having 3G issues? I can't keep my phone as is with such a slow data connection.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] boom313:
Im having the same problem. It started right after I flashed froyo with the new radio. Im on tmob in dallas. Is it only people with tmobile that are having this problem?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] S_Dot:
near same **** bro :( except my uploads are even worse than yours, what is going on???
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrandroid:
For Speedtest, switch the server. Don't use the Miami server. It sux and gives really low speeds... I'm in Miami also and I always thought my speed sucked, i switched the server in speed test and i'm getting 1.1Mbps Down and around 800Kbps Up
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sheek360:
trying it now
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sheek360:
actually i was on the tampa server lol, i live near the MIA airport; service there is uninspiring bro. God forbid Im in doors!
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sheek360:
i switched to the tallahasee server, its more or less the same lol
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nexus2:
Really because I'm in NY too and I'm getting only 500kbps down and 400kbps up. Are you in the city? Im in BK and I used to get about same speeds as you with old radio.

Also why am I getting the atlanta server on speedtest and not one in ny? NY is not even an option on the server list.