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[Desire General] nfsnfsnfs:
I have stock 2.2 rom on HTC desire .I have rooted it .

Can I update the radio to 5.17.05.23 ? .Is there any compatibility chart ,saying only certain OS (like 2.2 or 2.3) ,should only use the respective radios ?

Can the lastest radio be used with stock 2.2 rom ?

Also is the following procedure also correct ?

1. Download the radio to your SD card.

2. Turn off the phone fully,

3. Hold down VolDown key and press the power button once. Keep on holding the VolDown.

4. When you see the white screen, let go.

5. Wait for a few seconds .. usually count to 7 would work.

6. Scroll down to 'recovery' using the VolDown VolUp keys. Select using power button.

7. You get to the black page, with a few lines of text. Now start using your optical pad.

8. Go to "Install zip from sdcard".

9. Navigate and select the zip.

10. Accept and flash.

11. Phone will restart a few of times, then you will come back and boot up again with your new radio.

thanks
[Desire General] erklat:
There is no compatibility chart. You should have no problems if your radio and ril are compatible, no matter what os you use. That said, Froyo roms presumably have older rils and 5.17.05.23 is the newest radio image.

That procedure is right for someone with stock partition layout, yes.
[Desire General] kazgor:
just S-OFF with Revolutionary.io when trying to install the radio, the install Clockwork Recovery says that the update script in the Radio zip file is out of date and cancels.

What other way can the Radio be installed?

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[Desire General] Tillus:
You don't need to be S-Off for flashing radios via recovery, however if you flashed a hboot (which can only be done while S-Off) with a small /cache-partition, you can't flash the radio via recovery. In this case you need to extract the .img from the zip-file and flash this img-file via fastboot. And you can only use fastboot when S-Off.

tl;dr: If you changed you hboot, use fastboot or android flasher, if you didn't, flash the zip via recovery. If you are S-Off but didn't change your hboot, you can go both ways but flashing via fastboot/android flasher is a bit safer than recovery, I think.

And "when trying to install the radio, the install Clockwork Recovery says that the update script in the Radio zip file is out of date and cancels." is wrong.

I wouldn't recommend to mess around with rils. In my eyes it screws up more than it helps. In fact, I think it doesn't help at all, so I'd keep my fingers away from rils.
[Desire General] kazgor:
thanks Tillus,

Maybe the Recovery installed by Revolutionary version of ClockworkRecovery doesn't like the provide update script.

I am still on Stock HBOOT.

Anyway i was trying the FASTBOOT method, but i was still trying this whilst the current stock ROM was running. once i did the VOL DOWN+PWR at repeated the command at the bootscreen it installed the Radio fine.

any command ended up using were

adb reboot bootloader

fastboot flash radio radio.img

thanks again.
[Desire General] Tillus:
afair clockworkmod-recovery >3.xx need a different script and doesn't work with old scripts. But this is a update-script-or clockworkmorkmod-issue, not a the-radio-is-too-old-issue.

That's btw. the reason I use Amon Ra-Recovery. I've never had a problem with update-scripts. Actually I've never had any problem with this recovery :)

Edit: regarding radio versions. 4.xx are Eclair-, 5.xx are Froyo or Gingerbread Radios. Apart from that you can use any radio you want. Its more down to you specific carrier, so just try different radios and see which works best in your case.
[Desire General] mofirouz:
I know everyone has replied to this, but no one has given you an easy to do solution. So here we go.

If you have Rom Manager, open it - if not download it from Market.

Then go Install Rom From SD Card -> Select the radio zip file, and just flash. It should just simply install the new radio for you.

Good luck,

Mo.
[Desire General] kazgor:
thanks.

I have tried Rom Manager before, and before it would do anything it wanted to install CWR , now i already have this via REVOLUTIONARY (4.0.3something). so is it safe to update CWR to whatever version ROM Manager is going to install.
[Desire General] mofirouz:
Yep. You can update the CWR from Rom Manager. It has nothing to do with Revolutionary.
[Desire General] Shoarma1998:
vodafone netherlands radio compatibility

are there by any chance dutch vodafone users which use the latest radio 5.17.05.23? I get the feeling, that icw acesmod007 it doesn't always work right with the network... A girl was sitting next to me in the train this morning (also on vodafone) and had hsdpa, while I instead got gprs... She ran froyo stock...

or am I missing other factors which could influence this?
[Desire General] Z0l:
I beg to differ, since if you install the 2.5.0.7 version on a newer Desire (with different mtd size), it's not going to work.
[Desire General] mofirouz:
Well I was kinda assuming that he has the normal 'old' Desires. But thanks for the heads up anyways ;)
[Desire General] Z0l:
I'm on Dutch Vodafone with the same radio but on CyanogenMod and have no issues (using the packaged ril from CM). Sometimes 3G doesn't work, but I think it's more a problem with Vodafone than with the Desire (HSDPA and EDGE always work).
[Desire General] Z0l:
Yeah, it's a shame Koush forgot about our babies :)
[Desire General] LfcFan1977:
[Req] md5 sum

Can somebody please post the md5 sum for the radio.img inside the zip file of the 5.17.05.23 download?

I've checked the md5 of the zip (I downloaded from mofirouz.com) but I have no idea if the image can be corrupted during extraction from the zip. Just want to double sure.
[Desire General] erklat:
It can't. No way something inside the package could be changed without changing the md5 sum of the package.
[Desire General] zamansimba:
CM7 RC1 here in Malaysia, DiGi telco

Running 5.17.05.23, compared to 5.14.05.17 - better battery life on the latest ROM

light user sms and calls only, 3g off, data off

7am till 6pm - battery percent left

5.14.05.17 - 90%

5.17.05.23 - 96%
[Desire General] kmaq:
When i flash the latest radio 5.14.05.17 i get below message from CWM 5.0.1.0. Any suggestions on how to upgrade the radio? currently i am having Radio 32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2.

-----------------------------------------------------------------

Amend scripting (update-script) is no longer supported.

Amend scripting was deprecated by Google in Android 1.5.

It was necessary to remove it when upgrading to the ClockworkMod 3.0 Gingerbread

based recovery.

Please switch to Edify scripting (updater-script and update-binary) to create

working update zip packages
[Desire General] andQlimax:
the latest radio is 5.17.05.23

The error message is self-explained..cwm 3.x and up doesn't support the old scripts (the radio zip are only with old scripts, and with new scripts seems there is no way to flash it)

then u have 2 option:

1) use a cwm 2.x recovery (ensure u have an hboot with big cache, not cm7 or oxygen hboots) and flash the zip

2) as i read from ur signature that u are s-off, then simply flash the radio img (extract it from the radio zip) through fastboot flash radio radio.img
[Desire General] dukula:
Thanks!Thanks!Thanks!
[Desire General] Heisenberg:
I've flashed 5.17.05.23 last night, and since then have had a noticeable decrease in battery life. Same usage during the day but battery died a lot quicker. Using cyanogenmod 7.1 RC1 rom.
[Desire General] SoWhy:
I experienced a similar effect. My battery went from 100 to 86% in three hours without any WiFi or 3G use and although the phone was mostly screen off idling (with a few SMS sent). :confused:
[Desire General] Heisenberg:
Ok funny thing is, now after another day of similar usage I have much better battery life :rolleyes:
[Desire General] andQlimax:
its not strange at all..in informatic the word "similar" (in ur case referring to the usage) doesn't mean nothing

thats why is mpossible to say which is the best radio/best rom/best kernel :)
[Desire General] Tsjoklat:
I tried jarsigner and it was not able to tell if files were removed from the zip. It said it was "verified" even after I had removed files and did not resign it.
[Desire General] AlxMAX:
Then only a check sum like MD5 computed for the whole file and provided by the author helps.
[Desire General] leader288:
Just curious, does anyone know what radio and RIL HTC's gingerbread release is using?
[Desire General] Z0l:
Idk the ril, but the radio is 5.17.05.23.
[Desire General] rbjara:
yeah

like he told u in the tekst... YES
[Desire General] ZaLiTHkA:
You do realise that question was posted nearly 4 months ago....? I'm pretty sure G1StefanG1 has figured that out by now. :)
[Desire General] AlxMAX:
The RIL is HTC-RIL 2.2.0028HM.
[Desire General] Floris2310:
This is probably a stupid question but how exactly do you flash something through fastboot? I am also s-off with revolutionary but when I boot with power and volume down and select fastboot I get the following options:

- Bootloader

- Reboot

- Reboot bootloader

- Power down

None of these can be used to flash something I think. So what is the proper way to flash something through fastboot?

EDIT: I googled around and found that you can flash the radio via terminal on the phone itself. What are the commands i should enter?

EDIT 2: Is "flash_image radio /sdcard/radio.img" the correct way of doing it?

Thank you!!
[Desire General] andQlimax:
Plug the usb! U will see fastboot usb automatically :)
[Desire General] Floris2310:
when I plug the phone in. The phone displays fastboot usb instead of just fastboot. But on the pc nothing happens. What do I have to do on the pc to get started?

Thanks!
[Desire General] andQlimax:
nothing have to happen on the pc..search some guides..on windows u have to do to start/run and type cmd..from there navigate to the folder where u previously installed fastboot.exe..on the pc on the same folder of fastboot.exe put the radio.img u want to flash, then on cmd type fastboot flash radio radio.img...thats all
[Desire General] Floris2310:
THANKS! It worked without a hitch! :) I did search some guides but your explanation in 2 sentences was better i suppose... Thanks!
[Desire General] pelawaks:
Why can't I see radio application in my desire after flasing it?

I use newest version of radio, opendesire rom, and flash the radio using fake recovery..

Do you guys have any clues?
[Desire General] kai84m:
Just checked it: I also dont have the Radio App, but since the FM Radio on the Desire has poor quality it dont matters to me. Maybe its an Rom isue?
[Desire General] ivarson_swe:
I noticed that; in the newest raadio 16_2 neighboring CID appears for me, while in the earlier radio its blank.

I check this by dialing *#*#INFO#*#*

Is this for apps determining you location by the network?

Haven't got issues with it earlier by as i said, the values wasnt there before
[Desire General] mythxs:
same problem here, I rooted Desire with openDesire 1.5, no radio app found, searching online for FM radio without luck... can anyone please help..? Thankyou.
[Desire General] scopes64:
The HTC radio app is only available in roms based on HTC's sense roms
[Desire General] vivmar:
here new Radio 32.41.00.32U_5.08.00.04 leaked from HTC by Udk

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=720294
[Desire General] PaulW21781:
For the record too (for this radio)

HBOOT remains unaffected (remains what you have, S-ON still.)

BRAVO UNKNOWN SHIP S-ON

HBOOT-0.75.0000

MICROP-031d

TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101

RADIO-5.08.00.04

Mar 5 2010,21:12:15

Also, ORANGE BRANDED HANDSETS WILL BECOME SIM LOCKED WITH THIS RADIO RELEASE - DO NOT FLASH IF YOU ARE ORANGE BRANDED & NOT USED AN UNLOCK CODE FOR YOUR SIM
[Desire General] udK:
Here the new Radio http://rapidshare.com/files/404907281/32.41.00.32U_5.08.00.04.zip.html
[Desire General] Arthur Hucksake:
Be interesting to know if this drains more or less battery, feels like with every new release the battery drain gets worse.
[Desire General] drako86:
I use it on a rom defrost 1.8 with kernel uvoc??
[Desire General] Kali-:
no, this radio require new kernel driver and new libs

both was used on older froyo build (any with camcorder reboot bug)
[Desire General] pelawaks:
I see, so that's why it's not appear in froyo..
[Desire General] hensk:
and you have workin camera/camacoder

cause Richard say do not use is over richards rom
[Desire General] zeussn:
Can this lastest radio (32.37.00.32U_4.06.00.16_2) be used with Modaco MCR3.1 ?
[Desire General] jussy:
Sorry guys, I can't understand if it's possible to use Radio 32.41.00.32U_5.08.00.04 on 2.1 roms (stock, mcr3.1, ecc.)

Can someone confirm that, please?

Thx!
[Desire General] kai84m:
THX! Just flashed the new Radio - Working so far ;)

Will field test it a couple of days to tell more!
[Desire General] neomoz:
Running the new leaked radio on mcr 3.1. I keep getting the YouTube app hanging when I try to watch a vid. Anyone else see the same issue?
[Desire General] Nekromantik:
the leaked kernal makes videos played uisng the HTC player crash. it plays the sound but no video, plus when you go back to the home screen its stil playing the sound. Only way to stop is to reboot.
[Desire General] AdamG:
Added the new radio
[Desire General] pelawaks:
Would be better if you put this info from paulw21781 in the front page.. :)
[Desire General] ZaLiTHkA:
Thanks for sharing that.. I ended up using the adb and fastboot EXEs in the "Android Flasher" folders, but I didn't use the full app and I wasn't sure what was needed and what wasn't.. :p These four files just made my life that much easier. :)
[Desire General] gronph:
are there no more new radios?
[Desire General] andQlimax:
no more offcial updates = no more radios
[Desire General] chtamina:
whats the difference between flashing radio and flashing RIL's?

thanks
[Desire General] chtamina:
I was trying to flash latest radio and my recovery (clockwork) said this:

Amend scripting is no longer supported
[Desire General] jsel:
They are two different things. RIL (radio interface layer) is between the ROM and the radio. So called radio is firmware for the radio chip.
[Desire General] erklat:
Flash the recovery which supports both amend and edify scripting - cwm 2.5.0.7 for example.
[Desire General] paul1508:
I got a old Desire GSM with some old Radio on it. I'm using MIUI and want to ask you if I should upgrade my Radio? Should I update the RIL as well? Which benefits do I get?
[Desire General] erklat:
Afaik RIL doesn't matter for aosp and miui roms. Furthermore, if it isn't broken it doesn't need repairing. Which radio are we talking about?
[Desire General] Bhups:
Are there any benchmarks done for the radios listed on the first post?

if not, how does one perform benchmarks on radios?
[Desire General] erklat:
It doesn't. It can't be done.
[Desire General] hero000:
How to flash the radios:

Make sure you have the usb driver installed from the android sdk

Turn your desire off

Hold the back button and turn your desire on

When you are at the white screen, make sure BOOTLOADER is selected and press the power button

Wait a few seconds then press volume down to select RECOVERY and press the power button again

When you are at the screen with the red triangle and the phone, plug in the usb cable

Run the recovery-windows.bat script from modaco r5 root pack

When the recovery menu appears select 'Flash zip from sdcard'

Select the radio zip file and press the trackerball to confirm

Press the trackerball over 'Reboot system now'

When the radio image has finished being written unplug the usb cable

The phone will reboot a couple of times and then return to a normal state with your new radio

**************************************

Where I can find the recovery-windows.bat script from modaco r5 root pack???????
[Desire General] negative13:
'fastboot flash radio radio.img' works too. Just flashed my phone with that.
[Desire General] BorgCymru:
here

http://xda.gromt.org/Desire/root/r5-desire-root.zip

but it didn't work on my phone, I never saw the red triangle it just goes to the recovery menu
[Desire General] ZaLiTHkA:
The 'red triangle' will only show if your device is using the default Recovery, if you have a custom Recovery installed (CWM or RA for example), then this screen will look different. You can also plug in the USB any time after the indicated step, the main point is not to plug it in before that point.
[Desire General] BorgCymru:
OK thanks thats handy to know

But I always get

trying to install the newest radio
[Desire General] ZaLiTHkA:
That's something you'll probably need to take up with whoever it was that wrote the update script in the first place. From that message it looks like you're trying to use an ancient script on a new device.
[Desire General] BorgCymru:
I was trying to install the newest radio

That bit was missing from the other post, sorry
[Desire General] ZaLiTHkA:
Yeah, kinda figured that.. Your first post earlier started with quoting the instructions to install a Radio update. :)

To be honest, if you have enough space in you /cache partition (check the specifications on Alpharev's site), the easiest way is to simply copy the ZIP file to your SD card, boot into Recovery and select "Flash ZIP from SD Card".

If your /cache partition is too small, then you'll need to extract the 'radio.img' file from the ZIP first (you can ignore the meta folder contents, only needed for a flash-able ZIP). Then with your phone in Bootloader, connect the USB and use ADB to push the file to your device and FastBoot commands to flash it.
[Desire General] drbobb:
This is a bunch of nonsense. Adb will not work with the phone in bootloader mode, nor do you need to use it for this.
[Desire General] derlotse:
Not really a helpful comment and not even true .. i fully agree that flashing via fastboot is the safest/best way, he only didn't explain it properly to the end ( instead of bootloader : after entering recovery choose fastboot from the menu and here you go or ..).. no reason to be offensive and not to give a better solution.
[Desire General] erklat:
He is right. You don't need adb push to flash radio.

I won't get involved with his attitude here though.
[Desire General] ZaLiTHkA:
Well, gee.... So sorry.. Don't suppose you could maybe share some of your divine knowledge with us then? :confused:

Honestly, yeah, I'll admit got the order a bit wrong.. The couple times I've flashed a new radio to test on my Desire I used ADB to send the file to my phone and then rebooted to flash it. It's not something I do very often (obviously), but at least I'm trying to be helpful.
[Desire General] drbobb:
A full and very succint explanation was given just a few pages back, so no need to repeat it. OTOH I don't want people to get confused by wrong information.
[Desire General] pyko:
Just wondering, am I correct in assuming that the newer radios are meant to work better than the old radios? Irrespective of location/provider/ROM etc?

Got my phone late last year, and have 5.09.05.30_2 - which works fine, the occasional drop-out of 3G/calls, but that might as well be my provider... I dunno, doesn't happen often enough to really bother me.

Reading through this thread and a couple of others seem to tell me that flashing the radio is one of the riskiest things to do as it can permanently change/damage(?) the hardware.

So I guess the question is should I update to the latest radio?

edit: I have flashed my HTC Desire with InsertCoin if that makes any difference
[Desire General] BorgCymru:
Mmmm even though commander said it was a successful flash its showing as the old radio in PHONE ABOUT info
[Desire General] fusk:
is 32.54.00.32_5.14.05.17 the 32.54.00.32U version?
[Desire General] ZaLiTHkA:
Yes it is, I was running 5.14.05.17 a little while back. I'm now giving 5.17.05.23 a run (which, just for your information, shows in 'About Phone' as 32.56.00.32U_5.17.05.23)
[Desire General] fusk:
Thanks, just wanted to be sure, i my self is running 5.17.05.23, but have thought about switching to 5.14.05.17.
[Desire General] jamb0_1874:
The radio was the last thing that I updated on my phone as like you I had read all the horror stories but it turned out to be extremely pain free and easy. I used a program called android flasher.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=794638
[Desire General] Sui77:
Hi!

I flashed 5.17.05.23 and now i am not able to get my position by wifi, even not by gps.

That sucks cause i am just on holiday in NYC.

Is it possible that the radio 5.17.05.23 is the reason for that?

I have set the gps to NA by fasterfix without sucess.

When is switch on the Desire, it always ask me for "location permission"
[Desire General] sub_zero12:
RIL

Hi

Where can I find the latest RIL for the 5.17.05.23 radio? I want to flash this ROM: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1250815 but in requirements the latest radio and ril is needed
[Desire General] Large Hadron:
The RIL is part of the ROM, so any RIL you flash before installing the ROM will be replaced by whatever is in the ROM (which does make me wonder why they wrote that?).

Frankly I'd not worry about it - just try the ROM and see how it goes. If the dev has been daft enough to include an incompatible RIL in their own ROM, then there is a RILs thread in this forum (look in the Desire Index sticky for a link) - remember that the "H" RILs are for Sense ROMs.
[Desire General] sub_zero12:
I installed it, but after the splash screen and boot animation a black screen appears and the phone restarts. :(

(I flashed only the newest Radio).
[Desire General] Large Hadron:
That doesn't sounds like a RIL problem to me, to be honest - losing mobile data would be more the sort of thing an incompatible RIL does.

Unfortunately I've never used one of these Sense 3 ROMs, so can't suggest anything more than the basics (you know, wipes, make sure your SD card has whatever partitions the ROM needs).

But you could mount the card from recovery, copy a RIL zip from the RIL thread and flash if you think it might help. As noted previously though, the RIL is part of the ROM, so it's hard to believe that the ROM would be unable to boot with it's own RIL...
[Desire General] InsaneNutter:
Just flashed the latest 5.17.05.23 radio and that appears to have stopped the audio / video getting out of sync when recording a video on the Miui XJ Rom for me, good stuff :D
[Desire General] xcly:
flashed radio via adb, flashed ril using cwm, didn't work.. mobile network didn't work at all, couldn't make or receive calls

did a nand recovery, ril probably overwritten and everything works fine now. seems to catch hsdpa better. i live in a patchy network area so am glad i can get a few more minutes of fast loading when i'm travelling :)

5.17.05.23 works fine on sense 3.5 rom (runnymede aio 2.5 to be exact) with existing ril
[Desire General] ez321:
Problem here

Trying to flash latest radio with AndroidFlasher and i get error:

"The file 'radio.img' already exists" and buttons Details, Continue, Quit

Just flashed alpharev 1.8 and my device should now be S-OFF.

Also flashed CM7r2 partition layout.

Is there any other way to flash new radio "bravo.5.17.05.23" ?

My device currently has 5.11.05.14 radio.
[Desire General] BetaV:
Hi, got the same problem...was an easy solution:

I had a other radio zip file at sd card, so Android flasher found it and couldn't decide which to chose - the sd card-one or the PC -one.

Erase this file from SD and it should work. :)
[Desire General] ez321:
Got my problem also solved :)

But in a another way, i used ADB and FASTBOOT to push the radio.img to phone.

start adb and type

1. adb reboot bootloader

2. fastboot flash radio radio.img

3. fastboot reboot

radio.img needs to be in the same folder where adb and fastboot are.

I included the .rar if you don't have adb and fastboot, just run the "start here.bat" file.

All credit goes to DHD thread here in xda.
[Desire General] ZaLiTHkA:
Just a thought: but you might want to rather just link to the thread instead of attaching leith51's file here. If for any reason it gets updated it on the original thread (to fix something, improve something, etc.) then this one will still be an older version.