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[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shaundalglish:
unrealnet,

I even disagree that the iPhone is good as a multimedia phone.

I think there's nothing easier than just copying music onto the device, the Desire will put it into your library within seconds (or less). That's soooo much easier than having to go through iTunes (which, IMO, is a virus and you can't avoid it if you use an iPhone).

There are great media players for Android that are much better than the iPod app on the iPhone (the stock one is okay also, but there are really good ones on the Market, like MixZing). Alternative players are forbidden on the iPhone anyway, whereas you have a choice of great players on Android.

And that brings me to my next point: On the iPhone, unless you jailbreak it (which brings new annoyances), you can't have alternative players, you can't play any other formats than Apple's (whereas on Android, you can play pretty much anything with the built in players or an app from the Market).

I think there's not much more to say. You've used Windows Mobile, that means you know about all the possibilities an open system gets you. It's the same with Android, you can do pretty much anything you like.

What's not the same is that unlike Windows Mobile, Android just works. It's smooth, it's stable, it doesn't annoy you like WinMo does.

That said, I think there can only be one answer: Get the Desire.

I also just recently switched over from WinMo and I'm amazed by this phone. I also had an iPhone some time ago, and it really can not compare to the Desire in any way.

Everything that the iPhone does, the Desire does as well - and better - and most importantly, it does sooo much more... I wouldn't say it does more than Windows Mobile, but at least it does not annoy you.

It's like the combination of Windows Mobile and the iPhone: It just works fast, smooth and stable like an iPhone, but it does much much more like Windows Mobile.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bisko:
shaundalglish,

I've noted the problems on the software and syncing. :)

iPhone can play aac, mp3, wav which ... in my opinion are ... let's say most used formats. I can hardly see myself playing flac on the phone :)

As for the iPhone as media device - may be you have missed the part to feel the phone as a whole without jerking around with external players. I can say that iPhone's ipod is one of the best multimedia players (in means of organizing) music. As for the Desire it's right next to it. If I can represent it in numbers iPhone's iPod is 100% and desire's (stock) is 99.8%.

So once again - if you are an user who wants just to use the stuff, and not worry about some hidden "features" here and there, you should go for the iPhone, but you would loose all the customization that Android gives you.

If you want to have control to make your phone, really YOUR phone, then definitely go for Desire! It's THE phone :) I can barely leave it out of sight, just because i love to look at it soo much. *inlove* ^^
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DeniTCH:
I've now had my Desire for at couple of weeks, and I think it is a fantastic smartphone :)

One of the great things about Android is, that it just works out of the box, while giving you a rich user experience as well as a very high level of customization. As a longtime WinMo user myself I was a bit sceptical in switching to Android, but have not regreted it once since. One of the things that really maid my day was the efficiency and easyness of the Facebook and Google Account synchronization I have never been able to achieve on WinMo. Android has a beautifully designed GUI, all the way throughout the system, which was one of the main selling aspects of the iPhone, and in my opinion was entirely missing on WinMo (different interface in all apps, the quick transition between modern cool graphics layer to Win 95 like sms interface and so on). One real advantage of Desire (and any almost any phone in my opinion ;)) over the iPhone is of course the freedom you get by not being limited to do everything through iTunes and having free access to the phone's memory.

As for the phone itself I can say that the battery life is satisfactory, you can't really expect more from such a feature packed phone, I have personally developed a pattern where I charge my phone every night, so it has never been a problem for me. There are however some things you can do if you want to get a longer battery life. These are things such as turning the background data off, installing an automated taskkiller which periodically kills the unnecessary apps running in the background, turning off the location service (the phones manages the GPS power state), turning off WiFi etc... Android runs fluently, on the 1 GHz Snaprdagon CPU, actually noticably faster if you compare it with the HTC Legend.

I have tried to use the phone as a media player for a day (I usually use my Sony Walkman) and I can say that the battery life is reasonable, while the built in music player is fast and intuitively simple (I still haven't found how to add a song a playlist in Windows Media Player ;)), however one thing the player lacks is an equalizer. The phone is great for watching youtube or other online video (Flash works smoothly), the sound from the built in speaker is however not of the best quality. iPhone's or any Sony Ericsson's W series speakers are better.

So my general verdict here is: go get the Desire, you will not regret it :D
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] khaytsus:
Nonsense... The phone knows when to stop charging, in fact most modern phones charge to 100% then completely stop charging until it drops down to 95% then charges back to 100%, etc.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andycted:
Ok here's my simple explanation:

If you don't want/can't spend that extra day to learn how your phone works and how powerful it is and you don't care about getting into a closed ecosystem and pay 20-30% more for the same (actually maybe less) features, do get an iphone.

also if you care mostly about stylish appearance do get an iphone.

Otherwise get any other smartphone.

The desire is at the moment one of thee best value/price handset, I think
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dunbad:
I think you'd be foolish to get anything other than an iPhone. It just works. The sound quality on the desire is pretty bad in my opinion. Appears that listening to music is pretty high up on your agenda? Your speakers may make it louder but the quality just ain't there. Plus you wanna use it as a phone. Another reason for getting an iPhone. You don't want missed calls that go straight to answerphone right? The aerial stack on the desire is pretty poor in my opinion. Furthermore many people have trouble with the desire switching from 3g to H to E pretty much constantly even when the phone is not moving. And many people it appears have to reboot there phones to get Internet connected. These latter issues don't effect everyone but they do effect many. I love my desire for many reasons. But I don't think it will suit your needs by the sound of it.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] samsanchez88:
Enggg???? I don't agree with these comments at all; i don't know about the loudspeaker 'cause i don't use it but sound quality through my own earphones is just as good as my i-pod so sound quality is NOT an issue. I often listen to music and the player apps are really good, just as good as i phones and the ability to just dump music onto sd card (even straight from internet or bluetooth or wirlessly from pc) is very comfortable and handy!!

No probs at all with internet here, not one single one and anyway, from what i heard you're sticking to wifi so 3g is no issue for you anyway!

I've had an iphone, it was amazing when it came out but the desire has caught up and overtaken.

And the N900, mmmm, never tried one but from the vids i've seen on internet, it looks quite cool!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oursoul:
blah blah blah

get a desire
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mcgon1979:
I don't even think its fair to compare the iPhone with the Desire. The Desire is so much more versatile, powerful, and customizable.

I use the device to watch youtube clips and movies and listen to Mp3. I think the sound quality is excellent. As I understand it you cannot multi-task on an iPhone? So you cannot surf and listen to mp3s? Also no flash on Apple. I can watch flash on my Desire, and its also due flash 10.1 which will be even smoother. iPhone will never see flash.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zzleezz:
Dunbad, seems the Apple brainwashing worked on you ;)

I never have problems with switching between wifi/HSDPA/3g its seemless. Only time I have a problem with internet is in the middle of Thetford Forest where I also have problems making voice calls as there is no signal :)

Aerial stack on my Desire is better than my old touch HD and also better than my wifes Legend.

Music quality is great, had a friends ipod touch next to my desire the other night and we played the same track through the same set of headphones for a perfect comparrison. The ipod was a lot louder, going into the range of being able to damage your hearing, the desire could get to the stage where it was just on the loud stage but nowhere near as loud as the ipod. Not a problem imo, and historically HTC have limited output on the headphones of their phones. On my old touch HD I was able to adjust the limit in the registry, im sure it will be only a matter of time before some bright spark shows us how to change the setting in android :)

I wonder what network the "many" people quoted above are on, might be worth finding out. I am on vodamoan (perfect signal, great coverage, bad 500m FUP on data).
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Whiterin:
The sound quality on the Desire is just fine. I have no issues with it. Android is an amazing moble OS. I have messed around with iPhones a bit... and I really don't get why people like the iPhone OS so much. In my opinion pretty much anything running Android is better then an iPhone. As for the n900... it was a very nice idea, but Maemo never went anywhere. Maemo is pretty much a dead OS. There is a new OS being made by Nokia/Intel called Meago I think it is. It's rumored that the n900 will get this if it comes out. By the time it does though, the hardware on Tue n900 which is already aged will be so far behind it would be pointless to get one. Android has a lot of useful apps so far, and its improving rapidly. It already has things that no other mobile OS does. Android is the way to go right now... and the Desire is one of the top Android phones. Nothing else is really too superior to it currently.

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Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oursoul:
My mate had an n900, he swapped it for a desire within a week.

Get an iPhone, see if I care :P
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] a_sandhu:
haha! Okay guys, I think an iPhone is off my agenda..

I'm 99% decided to get a HTC Desire.

Dunbad, I respect your opinions, but I find them slightly biased! Each to their own, but i'm not so sure..and I didn't mention speakers! I have a dedicated Hi-Fi for that..loudspeakers on a phone are never worthy of listening to for over 5 minutes..they hurt my ears! haha. I have a portable amplifier..which improves output of pretty much anything through a 3.5mm jack...but the principle applies: Rubbish quality in, rubbish quality out! From these reviews the HTC Desire sound playback sounds decent, so i'm pretty much sold! Music is high on my list..I have a slight addiction :P

Just wondering now if anyone has had any more experience with the N900..just to compare. Maemo, i've heard, is getting new stuff added to it all the time due to third party developers...but thats from an internet site (Can't remember exactly where)...so I dunno!

I'm actually just waiting on a HTC Desire to come into stock, and i'm going to buy it...but if anyone can say anything to sway me towards the N900, any views are welcome! Please...try and be subjective though! Views which just say that their phone is better than anyone elses, and don't even consider other options are too closed minded for me! I don't want a phone to brag about it, I want a phone that I'll be happy with!

Thanks guys! You've been loads of help so far :)

Amardeep
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] myth1001:
Might wanna consider looking at these links. :D

http://noknok.tv/2010/02/26/stat-clash-nokia-n900-vs-htc-desire/

http://www.fonehome.co.uk/2010/03/16/nokia-n900-vs-apple-iphone-vs-htc-desire-–-clash-of-the-titans/

http://www.phonegg.com/compare/26/Nokia-N900-vs-HTC-Desire.html
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Clivectmob:
I can give you a few pointers coming from someone who has owned all 3 for a good while. Before I start, I would like to point out that I'm not a fanboy of any particular brand, I am merely constantly in search of the most capable and powerful phone.

IPhone 3g/s - had one for some time, had to see what the fuss was all about. My opinion is that this is a perfect phone for a non geeky/techy type that wants a phone to be just that, with a few nice pretty extras, and be reliable and easy to use.

Nokia N900 - This I had after the 3gs bored me to tears, I do need something to play with and customize, and the N900 seemed the perfect choice. Now I must say that I like the N900, its a very capable device, very customizable, incredibly geeky, excellent browser, and a physical keyboard. If your sitting down playing with both hands free its great. Pretty close to the "portable pc" solution. BUT, as a phone, its awful. Volume was so quiet it was easy to not hear a call, physically it was a little on the bulky side. It's almost impossible to do anything on it without having to use two hands which is something we've all taken for granted for a long time now, and is a major annoyance once removed. You can't quickly reply to a text for instance while walking along, if you are holding a bag too. Resistive screen isn't too much of an issue for me tho. All in, pretty good I thought, oh, and I struggled to get the battery to make even one day between charges on it.

HTC Desire - Current handset, as has been previously stated somewhere, as customizable as Windows mobile and as pretty as iPhone, with as much geekyness as you want. (i wouldn't say its quite as reliable as an iPhone tho through personal experience). But its definitely better than win mo. (Had a HTC HD2 too) lol. In a nutshell, it ticks nearly all the boxes, more than any other phone I've had to date. I'd trade a little extra bulk for a physical keyboard tho, I'm not a fan of virtual ones, but I can live with it np. Having tried every mobile OS there is I can categorically say that Android is ahead and more future proof than any other - period. Out of your 3 I think the desire is the way to go. Although, another good option could be the nexus one!

Hope I've been of help.

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Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dunbad:
Ok so I came in for a bit of stick for suggesting iphone. Firstly i misinterpreted that you would be listening to music via loudspeakers, through headphones the quality is indeed fine and not lousy. Why I thought you said loudspeakers god knows, but that's what I thought. That changes things. The desire is less stable than the iphone, but if you atte in any way geeky at all, this wont matter one bit. Also, I was wrong suggesting the aerial stack in the desire is pretty bad, its more accurate to say the software/hardware somehow effects some phones ability to connect to internet and or receive calls without putting you through to answerphone. And it effects all carriers if your one of the unlucky ones.there are many posts regarding connectivity issues in virtually all the forums. For the record I love my desire simply because I use my phone mainly indoors, for browsing the net watching videos and emails etc multi taking these things desire wins on hands down. My original opinion was not biased, it was based on the crappy loudspeaker of the desire which I thought youd be using a alot. The nokia is resistive, end of story. Theres no way i can go back to that. If I had no phones now, and wanted just one phone I would get the desire, or possibly nexus one, a trackball yes, but pretty much immediate updates! If you do get the desire dont worry too much about battery life as it calms down for some reason which is very odd. Mine took a whole 2 weeks before it settled which is something ive never seen before. Now its just fine and finally outperforms my 3gs. Why it took so long to settle, god knows. You'll need to organize it mind for best optimum ability but you wont mind that. Expect the very occasional force close or reboot, but its a totally different league to windows mobile, again if your even the slightest bit geeky you wont mind that. Im sure you would be very happy with the desire, Sorry about the loudspeaker thing. But when you get one you'll see what I mean!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shaundalglish:
Agree 100%, that's why I just quote it. :D

Whether it's as reliable as an iPhone depends - if you jailbreak the iPhone, it may even become less reliable, depending on what you install. And to be honest, since you have owned a Windows Mobile phone before, a non-jailbroken iPhone is probably no option for you.

Today Android is probably the best OS, because of its almost iPhone-like stability and smoothness and its openness and pretty much unlimited possibilities. And it also seems to be the fastest developing OS, with Microsoft starting from scratch and Apple only slowly adding in features that others have had for ages (multitasking, folders...).

Pair the best OS with one of the best pieces of hardware and you have your (almost) perfect phone. The Desire is waaay ahead of the iPhone in terms of hardware - the iPhone 3GS is a 2009 product, and even back then, its hardware has been lacking in some respects (camera, screen resolution...).
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] damianiw:
I know people with all 3 and have seen all 3, personally I've just had the same decision (although wouldn't consider a nokia after my 6300).

I've currently got a htc tytn ii / kaiser - love it but something happened - someone ported android and it got me hooked - even the shoe horned version of the os (1.6 and 2.1) and it's still in development parts made me realise how dead windows mobile is.

I know people who love thier iphones, some of them are geeky techies - my iphone philsophy is simple - if you want one you've probably already bought one! if you still have it and are waiting for your next iphone when your contract expires then you're hooked on the apple way!

I quite like apple os on it's computers and no one can doubt the iphone os really stepped the smartphone market into overdrive and in a much more app focused direction - which is good.

Unlike nokia they usually consider older devices in their os updates, ok so 3g won't get multi tasking but 3gs will - I had a 7610, nokia released a .1 symbian update and they never updated the 7610, I won a 6300 - nice not a smart phone but battery was useless after a phone call - won't buy another nokia again.

I've seen the legend and it looks really nice, it runs android much better than the tytnii but most of us getting these phones are on contract and I'm afraid to say a 500mhz cpu will be feeing really slow in 18 to 24 months if not before.

So we're onto the desire, 1ghz cpu, big screen :-)

I know a friend who was always win mobile, on my appraisal of android he gave a desire a shot - within a week he said he'd never go back to windows mobile.

There are tons of free apps on the android market, and as we can all download the sdk it means development is open unlike the iphone.

HTC phones are really well supported by the user community and even in the future if they do stop releasing android updates the community will - the kaiser / tytn ii is living proof, I have windows 6.5 and android on it.

In fact it's android on the little beast that made me want a better phone - it runs it beautifully and if I just use it like windows it's fine - problem is android can do so much more and the poor old thing just creaks !
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] a_sandhu:
Mate, don't apologise! That was an open post as I realised I didn't shield myself against biased views to begin with..but what you've just said has actually been extremely helpful!

I am sold guys, ordered my HTC Desire today :) Should get to me by Tuesday! Thank you all for being so helpful and guiding my decision! I finally found one in store to play with today (they've constantly been out of stock, or out of battery) and I have to say it seems like an amazing handset..it looks like it's the type of phone that just does what it's told..very excited!

:cool:

Edit: I've just checked the poll results..the answer is pretty overwhelming :| 41 votes for the HTC Desire..and none for any other handset haha
[Android Apps and Games] 84tdan:
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Here is a link with my portfolio (not so up to date...)

youtube.com/watch?v=aiRHJq4q030

At the moment i'm not interessed in making money, i want to produce something really good. I see a lot of great (FREE) games, with nice concept but visually it could be better. I'm not in any way saying I'm the guy or that i'm better than anyone here, i know here are many talented people. I Just really want to get into this growing Android world, helping developers with something i can do.

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(by the way, i live in brazil :))
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] iamodogg:
So.. with Nexus One's Activsync integration, there was an option "accept all ssl"

With my incredible, it does not have that option (that I can see).. Therefore with a custom certificate from my company's security team, I constantly get warnings for the certificate. Very annoying and prevents me from syncing well.

Thoughts? Solutions?

Please move this to appropriate forum if I'm in wrong place. Thanks in advance.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crams1:
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[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crams1:
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[Nexus One Accessories] dany74q:
Hello there,

I ordered my nexus one couple of days ago, I want to be ready with all the peripherals needed.

Well, I saw some fine cases in Ebay and other private sites, but I could not find the specific sort of case that I would like to buy.

There are two main problems that I see in most of the cases out there -

1.They will not protect the screen in a case of a fall.

2.Too big or uncomfortable to use.

I`d rather buy a case that is going to save my screen from a crack, than one that preserves some scratches, so I need a good protection for the front area.

Secondly - I`d like it to be as slim as possible, and comfortable for an use at daily basis.

Plus - no rubber / silicone cases , only plastic/metal/silk+plastic/metal.

As for the screen protector,

I don`t know if they are that useful, I have seen that most of them reduces the quality of the screen / responsiveness of the touch screen,

will I get any benefits from a screen protector?

I heard good reviews about the next one :

http://www.googlenexusoneaccessories.com/nexus-one-screen-protector-8642.html

Is it any good ?

Big thanks, I`m open for any sort of suggestions,

Danny.