yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Desire General] andycted:
If an application keeps going in the background in some way/service it's because it's meant to be, like an updating rss feed reader, a live wallpaper, an email client pulling mail from the server, widgets or music player streaming/playing music. If you don't want those to run in the background you obviously should set them not to update, remove them from the desktop, stop them manually, etc.

Otherwise every other application you open and then leave when you switch to another application, gets stopped and 'frozen' in the state it had so that when you switch back to it or reopen it, you find it in the same state, giving you the impression of having been running in the background (but it didn't).

It's a smart way to combine the speed of single-running applications in dumb iphones and the flexibility of more complex os like WinMo. It's also apparently the same way as WP7 will work.

Like mentioned above by killing processes you mostly cause disruption in the pre-ordered way they work and probably cause more battery usage since they have to restart from scratch for the most part. More importantly real-time monitoring of processes and auto-killing them is most likely eating battery a lot since every real time monitoring does that, like many real time battery widgets and such.
[Desire General] polystirenman:
Ok.thx for answers guys.i am geting rid of task killer right now.
[Desire General] mancuk29:
Same here .. I'm a techie on most things obviously not Android must try harder !

Must admit did complete hard reset yesterday got rid of task killer after first posts phone seems more stable

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[Desire General] -A-P-M-:
I have a task killer, but only for killing appliactions which aren't written good and causes some lag or they don't want to close..
[Desire General] XDA mark:
I just looked at the comments on the Advanced Task Killer (free, high in the list in the Market).

I wanted to believe you guys here at XDA. But I went trough the comments on that ATK and 95% was 4 to 5 stars. All with reply's like:

"must have app"

"should be included in Android"

"doubled my battery life"

Now if SO many people say that, I can't imagine that they are all wrong. Why would they all lie?

I myself have been using that ATK for a while, killing only some things that don't close (like games,Facebook or Twitter, etc...)... battery life is still not as good as I would like it to be, but I only have had my Desire for a week.

Are you guys REALLY sure that stopping to use ATK will improve battery life?
[Desire General] -A-P-M-:
Read this article:

http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
[Desire General] andycted:
it's the placebo effect. A While ago there was a thread on a winmo forum for a new overclocking application. It had tons of "amazing", "must have", "goes way faster", comments, it became incredibly popular. then the developer made public the fact that it was a social experiment and the application did absolutely nothing other than having a nice interface for reporting fake cpu .

As said if you have a single bad-behaving application (which is very rate) only kill or rather uninstall it. Games don't run in the background, battery becomes great after one-two weeks, but still you can't expect it to run for 10 hours of continuous heavy usage. Buy a second battery if you need that
[Desire General] foxmeister:
No one is saying they are lying - personally I see it more as a placebo effect, but I do understand there are certain situations where task killers come into there own. Having owned 3 Android phones though, I can say that in my case leaving Android to do its own thing works very well for me - I don't believe that it actually increases battery life significantly, but I do firmly believe it improves the overall stability of the platform.

One thing that probably should be added, is that using swap on an Android device will cause problems with Androids own internal resource management because it cannot distinguish between real memory and the virtual memory made available using swap. See here for more details. I wouldn't be at all surprised if those people who get the most "benefit" from task killers are also using swap.

Regards,

Dave
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] wbirriel:
It seems Sprint finally locked down the phone. After doing a full backup I installed RUU_Hero_C_Sprint_2.27.651.5_R_signed_release.exe and it wiped everything even the recovery ROM. Now I can't root the phone or even reinstall the recovery rom with fastboot. This is the actual error:

C:\android-sdk_r05-windows\android-sdk-windows\tools>fastboot boot recovery-RA-h
eroc-v1.6.2.img
< waiting for device >
downloading 'boot.img'... FAILED (remote: not allow)

C:\android-sdk_r05-windows\android-sdk-windows\tools>

Just in case non of the previous root methods work, and yes I should know better and I was stupid.
[G1 General] bigmama:
Hi Just got a Rogers Dream from a friend in the following tree color state:

DREA210 PVT 32B RUUNBH

BOOT-0.95.0000

CPLD-4

RADIO-1.22.12.29

Sep 2 2008

Serial0

1) I tried safely to install Rogers rom for the htc dream but PC does not detect my USB port failing with error 170.

2) Read Forum for 2 hours, and tried stock firmware, made sure SD card formatted FAT32, DREAIMG.nbh and update.zip it did boot, loading... and error 0002802 not allowed showed.

Can someone point me to the right direction for the next steps?

What kind of more information can I provide? And how to get it? Thx
[G1 General] ezterry:
what are you trying to achieve? That dream is running the 1x radio with a stock T-Mobile spl, thus ought to be used like a T-Mobile g1,

You could run a true rogers nbh via SD card.. but this is probably not going yo give you the phone you wish to use.

Tell me the end state you want to be in we can help you get there.
[G1 General] bigmama:
My goal was to use the damn phone, after 12 hours of struggling I was able to install Haykuro Rogers dream, after that I want to SPL 1.33.2005, Rooted my phone and I installed cm-5.0.7-DS-test5 Rom.

All is fine now thanks for the response.
[G1 General] chocko:
Ive got exactly the same issue, formatted SD to FAT32 and copied DREAIMG.nbh (RC7) to it. I get the not allowed error and then drop to the multi colored screen with:

DREA110 PVT 32B

HBOOT-0.95.0000

CPLD-4

RADIO-2.22.19.261

Sep 2 2000

Serial 0

I am trying to follow the instructions on the cyanogen wiki to install Cyanogen 5.0.7 on a stock Dream purchased in Australia.

Any pointers will be appreciated, I have tried to reformat, different SD cards without any success.
[G1 General] ezterry:
Because the nbh is for T-Mobile in the states.. thus fails the carrier checks elsewhere in the world.

To get around these checks a goldcard is needed.

But before looking into that.. make sure you can't root by flashreq first. (I can't say I've used the Australian rom so I'm not really sure of your phones state.. the gold card will let you flash that nbh.. but if you can install recovery by flashreq that is safer)

It's usually best to search for people who have rooted the same stock rom as is installed on the phone.
[G1 General] Haad:
i have a tmobile g1 its giving me the same error code"0002802" when i try to flash the DREAIMG.nbh file from bootloader. so i cant downgrade to rc29. i want to root the phone.any solution?
[G1 General] ezterry:
I answered this best I could here

With both a potential solution:

Did you try a goldcard yet? what was the result?​

And a question to help understand why:

Did you answer my question last time of when your phone was jtagged was it with my solution in the wiki or Omnia's solution?​
[G1 General] moadda:
Okay I have the same problems as the op and I have the same radio, spl everything is exactly the same. The phone cannot boot into recovery whenever it starts it goes directly to bootloader. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
[G1 General] maynah:
Not even downgrading

Hello guys,

I tried already one goldcard, made all the procudures to get one and also didnt work, with the gold card says that no IMG not found, with the DREAIMG from USA and EU says that is 'not allow'. I tried as well the DREAIMG.nbh from USA and EU. I bought my phone in Holland, and his configuration is:

DREa110 PVT 32B

HBOOT-0.95.000

CPLD-4

RADIO-1.22.12.29

If you can help me another way out. I'ven been try and I am stucked on this for 3 days.
[G1 General] flybilletterbillig:
0002802

strange, in my case I got a phone which I did not know if it was from Europe or the US. I just happened to get the "0002802" error when using what I assume to have been the wrong firmware (European in my case) as when I tried the US version everything worked fine.

Though for the Rogers phone the whole process seem slightly more complicated (check the Cyanogmode wiki for it under Full_Update_Guide_-_Rogers_Dream_EBI1 -- sorry Im new here and I cant post a link =D)
[Desire General] Powerstfu:
What is the Desires screen made of? If it is a glass screen then theres no need to buy a screen protector. But if it is a hardened plastic then, yes. So anyone knows whats the screen made of?
[Desire General] cbanbury:
Definatly glass, should be heat treated. I haven't bothered with a screen protector
[Desire General] Jakka:
If I were you, I'd get a screen protector anyway, just in case. Mine stayed about three weeks absolutely clean, but then two tiny scratches on my screen that I somehow got out of nowhere reminded me that if you convince yourself that the screen is unscratchable, you're wrong. Seriously, a cheap half-decent protector won't affect your screen or the colours, will be hardly noticable you won't have to treat the handset like a newborn baby, only for it to end up scratched anyway.
[Desire General] mcgon1979:
its glass. ask anyone who has cracked it and they'll tell you. It's not sapphire crystal though, just glass.
[Hero CDMA General] eagles16:
Some guy over at androidcentral got a hold of an evo and is answering questions, http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-evo-4g/12667-i-have-evo.html
[Hero CDMA General] abcdfv:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7bwoYK2p8c

Hot damn.
[Hero CDMA General] eagles16:
ohhhh man i cannot wait, hopefully parents will let me buy this...
[Hero CDMA General] bubbacs1:
Evo forums?

May THEY would like to know?

Please stop cluttering the CDMA Hero forums, we just got this seperate forum in the last two to three weeks now.

And having to wait for months to get our own seperate forums, it would be nice for the posts to be about just that....no?

Thanks,

Bubba.

P.S. And I know what is being said, EVERYONE with a hero is gettin a EVO, NO THEY'RE NOT.

Maybe everyone in ALL the other forums are gettin a EVO also, BUT you're NOT posting in ALL the forums are you?
[Hero CDMA General] richse:
His neocore score is 24.7 fps on the EVO. I find that troubling because my Hero pulls that off when running at 767 Mhz.
[Hero CDMA General] richse:
Actually, all the reports I've read say it has 1 GB internal storage so I guess he could be correct. I'm more worried about the fps score on neocore. The storage problem is fixed with an sdcard upgrade.
[Hero CDMA General] abcdfv:
I'm thinking once the ROM is torn apart and optimized, it will pull much higher scores.

Try Neocore on the completly stock Hero ROM, see how THAT compares.

Look at it this way, Overclocking the Hero, running a zipaligned/deodexed blah blah blah with JIT, I pull about 30FPS in Neocore. Now imagine running like that on the EVO.
[Hero CDMA General] rejectedkid:
cry a river why don't ya.
[Hero CDMA General] eagles16:
i was surprised by that score also, i got 26.4 fps on the stock 2.1 leak
[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
i saw a bit of lag on that video tbh. im perfectly happy with my hero.
[Hero CDMA General] Sporkman:
please turn in your man card cause your crying like a sissy
[Hero CDMA General] VinceOB:
Bhahahahaha tool. By the way you're wrong, Ive got a Hero and im getting an EVO when it comes out. And who the hell signs their name on every post they make??
[Hero CDMA General] OtisFeelgood:
+1

10charslimitmakesbabyjesuscry
[Hero CDMA General] Sporkman:
sorry fix i have to LOL @ this
[Hero CDMA General] noidea`:
I saw lag too. Were you even watching or were you busy salivating all over your computer screen? busy salivating all over your genitals*
[Hero CDMA General] pseudoremora:
WTF is everyone's deal saying **** about the Evo?

It's not even out yet. The software probably isn't fully up to date, thus the reason for the infamous "lag". Not to mention, the Evo is expected to come with Android 2.2, which is said to give Android phones 5x the performance increase in all areas of the phone over the current Android 2.1:: SOURCE

It's not hard to imagine that once the Devs around here get a hold of the software/hardware of the Evo and make modifications; you'll see amazing things being done with the Evo. It might even be able to create a black hole...:rolleyes:

Just wait till June 4th, then we'll see its real performance.
[Hero CDMA General] abcdfv:
Source...?
[Hero CDMA General] Aridon:
It's not getting 2.2 out of the box so don't get your hopes up.
[Hero CDMA General] pseudoremora:
Can't provide one, yet. I'll ask my brother though (He works Sprint). However; my comment was: "The Evo is expected to come with Android 2.2" meaning; that it might not and that I'm speculating. This is because Flash 10.1 (the real, finalized version -- which is rumored to be debuting at the Google IO this week) will be running on Android 2.2. It's only logical to think if Flash 10.1 is going to be offered as a feature on the Evo; then Android 2.2 would come with preinstalled on the Evo, as 2.1 does not have the full version -- currently only the lite version (if I remember correctly). We'll see though. I'd love to have 2.2 over 2.1 -- but I'm sure this is only a matter of grabbing any new phone that does have 2.2 and modifying it to work with our phones when/if it is released.

So far you're right... but I'll get my hopes up all day. Thanks.;)
[Hero CDMA General] abcdfv:
I'm thinking that since they already spent this long getting 2.1 on it (Read: hacking WiMAX support into 2.1) it will ship with 2.1, and may see 2.2 ~6months after release.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DanWalker:
I truly love Swype on my Hero but yesterday completely unexpected I got a popup that stated "Your trial period has ended. Please upgrade your copy of Swype." How can I do this!? I've searched everywhere but I have no idea what I am looking for. Thanks.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] saf100792:
there is a new version that works fine in this thread.http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=681872
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DanWalker:
thanks for that, it was a life saver lol.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bubbacs1:
Themes and Apps?

Swype is an App?

Just asking.

Thanks,

Bubba
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fixxxer2008:
im not to fond of swype anymore, i just use the gloss black htcime one and it works well. :)
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DanWalker:
i was hoping a Dev had a way to upgrade it being that is was ported to be used on the Hero...just saying.

Thanks!
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bubbacs1:
There's another thread here somewhere and it has the updated one.

Almost all the older ones are now showing a popup and disabling themselves.

But another version is posted and it works fine on 2.1

Thanks,

Bubba.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nebenezer:
Thanks for more of your helpful input fixxxer... wtf? This is a thread about the fact that those of us who do like and use Swype every day are s.o.l. atm and are looking for a solution. Thank you for letting us know you don't like swype and use the htcime kb instead.

I'm using the one from THIS POST, so far so good.

If I'm not mistaken I think thats an older copy. Even though it's working I'd love to get a hold of a newer version, or heck I'd love for the people who made Swype to let be BUY it from them. I would pay at least $5 for Swype.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bubbacs1:
This is what I got AFTER the other one started with the "end of trial" BS.

Thanks,

Bubba.

P.S. Havn't been watching version numbers, but this one works.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nebenezer:
Yep, same version number as the one I'm using now. I like the blue word prediction box :)

*edit- and i just realized its the same one from the thread saf100792, linked. Sorry for the redundancy.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ryanmo5:
This doesn't belong in development, as a senior member here you should know the proper place to post this thread. Thread moved.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MagnusRagnarok:
I vouch. I installed this one in my new mod. Ive had this version for testing ever since it was released. I have a few copies, registered to me(I themed the new one)it works perfectly and does NOT expire. Check out the black glass version of the one that expires and swap the keyboards folder inside if you want a black one that does not expire. Or just color all the pngs to YOUR liking. Just an easy way to get a black swype that doesnt expire. OR YOU CAN JUST GO HERE...​
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] slimster:
Maybe I'm missing something but how come nobody has come up with a messaging app for the HD2? I think it is common knowledge that the stock messaging app sucks and I'm just curious why nothing like chomp or something similar hasn't been made for the HD2. Can someone educate me?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] clarkdevlin:
try this one. it will disable your htc messaging client and will be replaced with a more simpler but fast one. also by using this one your MS Voice Commander incoming SMS speech notification will now work. and if you don't like it you can just uninstall it to revert back to your default one.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] slimster:
thanks for the suggestion, i will give it a try right now. any clue why there hadnt been any third party messaging apps created?
[Hero CDMA Accessories] Shadow591:
http://cgi.ebay.com/100-NEW-32GB-32...eNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ht_1366wt_1137

Maybe someone else is a little better with ebay than me, I think it is a scam but, I would like to know another person's opinion.
[Hero CDMA Accessories] nebenezer:
Seller has no rating, looks like a waste of $21.28 to me.
[Hero CDMA Accessories] smstutler:
Here is another with 20 feedback.

http://cgi.ebay.com/100-NEW-32GB-32..._Photographic_Accessories&hash=item414f821e32

Sometimes ya gotta bite it and take the chance. I got a 128G thumb for $30 from a Chinese seller. Works fine.

Oh and don't judge the cam quality. Was in a kind of dark room. Fresh Toast 2 cam quality is excellent. See sample 3rd pic of a bike in local supermarket I took.
[Hero CDMA Accessories] Shadow591:
Just Bought from this seller. I'll tell you how it goes.
[Hero CDMA Accessories] ricersniper:
wonder what class it is
[Hero CDMA Accessories] gu1dry:
It's probably a class 2 card.
[Hero CDMA Accessories] nebenezer:
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: 128G in a usb stick!!! Wow, didnt even know it was like that already... That's amazing
[Hero CDMA Accessories] smstutler:
Yeah and I dont use it that often, I trust my external HD's more for storage. And I have 3 8G usb's as readyboost. Was nice when I had a job in IT. Got lots of little toys. If I was still at that job I could have gotten the EVO but we were with verizon. I was the toy/gadget guy in the corp. Got the Storm and then the rest of the company started getting them when they saw mine. Hehehe. Imagine what would have happened if I had an android or better yet still have been there, could have gotten a tablet.
[Hero CDMA Accessories] drummingfool:
Holy freaking crap dude. I'm the senior systems engineer and network security architect for my company and would KILL for a flash drive that big!
[Hero CDMA Accessories] jah8551:
well, doesn't look too promising on being real. But I just bought one and even if its counterfeit and still holds 32gb ill be happy. I can let you know when I get it.
[Hero CDMA Accessories] Ultragamer:
Mind giving the name of the person you bought from? I see a couple of those on ebay but a lot of people seem to be calling them fake.
[Hero CDMA Accessories] iviyth0s:
let us know on the turnout!! The moment you confirm this valid I'm gonna order one I've been juggling my 100MB free space on my 16GB Class 2 card alot lately :P
[Hero CDMA Accessories] thematrixkid17:
Me too. subscribed.

Also, do I see the side of a number '6' under that black 32gb sticker?
[Hero CDMA Accessories] thematrixkid17:
Have you ever written more than 8 or so gigs to that? I hear that they're 8gb flash drives that are hacked to report around 128 gigs. Especially since wholesale flash prices are way higher than that....
[Hero CDMA Accessories] ramiss:
LOL....and the price is in AU but the location is China! :confused:
[Hero CDMA Accessories] julwo:
damm i dont know but i just bought mine couple months ago a i paid US$155.00 :(
[Hero CDMA Accessories] thematrixkid17:
Well, I have previously bought from chinese sellers who often list prices in the currency of the market they're targeting. I don't see anything wrong with that.

But after doing some more research on the shady side of flash memory, I'm beginning to think that this might not be such a great deal.

http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=918 this article is really interesting.

I bet that even if there really is a real 32gb NAND inside that microsd, no doubt that it probably is poor quality stuff.

And as far as the 128gb drives go: I'm convinced they're all fakes. (if they're less than a few hundred dollars) The internet is full of reports of drives (especially kingston branded) that are 2, 4, or 8gb drives packaged up in 128gb housings, with crafty formatting techniques used to report a larger free space than is actually available. I wouldn't be surprised if they're using the same techniques on larger size microSD cards too.
[Hero CDMA Accessories] Shadow591:
Don't say that man, I have a 2GB card that is filled to the brim with just backups
[Hero CDMA Accessories] Shadow591:
So I am new to ebay and this is my first purchase, Am i supposed to do anything after paying for the item with paypal:confused:
[Hero CDMA Accessories] smstutler:
No just give it some time for them to ship it and for it to come from China.
[Hero CDMA Accessories] smstutler:
Copying files to this drive now. So far 29 gig's have been copied to it out of 60+.
[Hero CDMA Accessories] derekwilkinson:
Even if it is real (which I doubt), it will probably have corruption problems and been unstable.
[Hero CDMA Accessories] apristel:
Negative feedback rating	Bad seller.

albertsm4 ( 0 )

May-15-10 10:05

100% NEW 32GB 32G microSD micro SD SDHC (#280506794607)	US $22.28	View Item

dont waste your cash
[Hero CDMA Accessories] jerry43812:
How did this turn out?

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[Hero CDMA Accessories] iviyth0s:
his house exploded lol
[Hero CDMA Accessories] jah8551:
I got mine today, put it in my phone and it comes up saying blank sd card and gives me the option to format it. formatting it did nothing and it still wont read it. I took it out of my phone and plugged it into my computer and formatted it as fat32 and I copied over 30 gigabytes of movies and music etc... it copied fine and my other computer read the files fine but my phone still wont recognize it. Any suggestions???
[Hero CDMA Accessories] iviyth0s:
murder the seller
[Hero CDMA Accessories] jah8551:
Well I'm still not having any luck with it but I tried it in a couple friends phones, Blackberry and an LG something and it works in both of them fine.
[Hero CDMA Accessories] iviyth0s:
And I'm assuming (since you're here) that you have a Hero?? I *think* our Hero's support 32GB :confused:
[Hero CDMA Accessories] jah8551:
Yea I have a hero, they are supposed to support them but it doesn't work in mine. It doesn't seem to be a problem with the card cause its working in everything else so idk???
[Hero CDMA Accessories] CarbonKang:
Correct Hero accepts NOTHING higher than 32 gb SD cards. Says on the Manual. :p:p