yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Accessories] Archer:
Looks nice - especially for the price! Did it clean up okay afterwards?
[HD2 Accessories] PHOENIXROSE:
Bargin

I got this last month and for the price is a bargin my only beef is you can fit your hd2 in if it has a case on it already.
[HD2 Accessories] ebeam:
ROFL! :D It certainly made me LOL!
[HD2 Accessories] bronx:
heheheehhe :D n1
[HD2 Accessories] smeddy:
Mwahahaha!
[Hero CDMA General] Papa Smurf151:
OK u guys...I know everyone is tired of all the drama on here. I have been talking to one of the mods through pm and gave a suggestion for a town hall meeting to discuss the problems as of late. The mod agreed that he and hopefully other mods would be willing to open a thread where we can discuss these issues. There will be no banning for what is said in this meeting but with a mod present and engaging in convo the tone needs to stay clean or semi at least. Failure would result in post being deleted. There will be rules that the mods what followed but its to keep the pease.

Look this cdma community has been split for a little while now. U can feel the tention in some post. Its time to stop the flaming and the trolling. This is not just about the nebs/fixxxer thing even though that's what sent all of this overboard.

The mods only see part of this community and its the ugly side. They are harsh cause they are misinformed about certain people and certain actions. This is our opportunity to have a united voice and share how things really are and ideas on how to remedy them

Its time to reunite as the amazing community this used to be and get back to what really matters.

Feel free to comment. Please keep it clean. The more votes in the poll the better.

The meeting would be at a set time and heavily monitored then closed once alotted time had past. Please join and enjoy.

This is not the meeting. It is just a poll to let mods know we are serious and that we can behaive.
[Hero CDMA General] phenicks:
excellent idea
[Hero CDMA General] markus_del_marko:
I say let by gones be by gones and drop the whole matter. I find it odd that two members and a bunch of trolls can stir up soo much controversy on this forum. I don't have much more to say other than lets just get back to developing and stop worrying about others and what they do or say.
[Hero CDMA General] phenicks:
Only someone who knows they were in the wrong and doesnt want to get called out on it would say that...

Seriously, whats the harm in having an open discussion about things?

If you don't want to participate then don't participate
[Hero CDMA General] markus_del_marko:
And your response is the exact reason we shouldn't even discuss it anymore. Just as you think im an impostor, i could say the same for you as you just joined up as well. Any one of us could be neb, fix or bad_dog along with a host of others that caused issues on here. If the mods don't care, than neither should we. That's my point of view, im sorry you don't agree but your right i will not be participating in another thread that will do nothing but finger point and get more members banned.
[Hero CDMA General] egzthunder1:
Can you please stick to the OP's request without fighting?
[Hero CDMA General] gunnyman:
Did the maturity level around here drop when the price of the Hero did? :rolleyes:
[Hero CDMA General] Papa Smurf151:
Thanks for the help. I already spoke to one of them off the site and there will be no more fighting from them. Lets keep the pease and make it possitive. That is all.
[Hero CDMA General] gu1dry:
It's more along the lines of more people got the device & with a larger community, brings trolls more likely to pop up and/or friction due to difference of opinions between people. There isn't really anything that can be done, except to report issues ASAP & let the mods do their thing.
[Hero CDMA General] Nanan00:
The Mods need to start locking threads and banning people on a more regular basis.
[Hero CDMA General] radxcoresteven:
To me, this sounds like a great idea! I think we should all openly discuss our problems..
[Hero CDMA General] matthewman3:
great idea and this is very needed.
[Hero CDMA General] Jack-Johnson:
Wonderful idea
[Hero CDMA General] dukeoflbg:
They should call it HTC Hero CMDA BS General. The perfect fu forum. Bs gets put there and people hafta look for it rather than it showing up in a bunch of different places. People are gonna fight so we might as well make a place for it and the "real" developers will post where they are suppose too.

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[Hero CDMA General] Jack-Johnson:
A very keen observation young Ladd
[Hero CDMA General] dukeoflbg:
The same comment to my post from a different user. I know mods, or losers the way they act here, can check this. This **** NEVER HAPPENED at truckforum.org we were all friends. Not like here.

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[Hero CDMA General] Jack-Johnson:
Lmfao about the moderator closing the thread about overbearing moderators closing threads
[Hero CDMA General] smw6180:
I'd also be surprised if you had the same number of users at truckforum.com ;)
[Hero CDMA General] jerry43812:
This will be a flat out waste of time. I am so ****ing tired of this places dictatorship actions lately that I don't think anything but new moderators would fix. Take your power trip and shove it. We can't even bull **** around here without some ****ing mod with his panties shoved so far up his ass closing the thread for no reason. That's no way to run a site. Run it with some sense and handle things appropriately and you won't have nearly as many problems with it.

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[Hero CDMA General] Jack-Johnson:
The real problem is that there's way to many mods so any whiney twit can find and convince one to do his bidding . There seems to be more mods than members
[Hero CDMA General] Papa Smurf151:
This is the reason for the town meeting that I am working on putting together with the mods. I have spoken to them. They are willing to listen and find a happy medium. Read first post to fully understand what the point is. This thread is not a place to complain. Simply a place to ask if others agree or disagree with the idea.

There really isnt that many mods. Just alot of drama going on in the forum so its being policed heavier. Again the whole point of having this meeting is to voice our opinions to the mods and have them speak back right then and there instead of through pms. Many voices letting the mods know what has really been going on here instead from one or two people trouble makers and whiners.
[Hero CDMA General] abcdfv:
I agree with this, as I am unaware of the existence of any forums outside the CDMA Hero forum, so if it's not posted there, I may never see it. (Occasionally I remmeber the Evo forum is there, but not since I decided to skip it and get The Next Big Thing)
[Hero CDMA General] tstack77:
+1 "General/Off-topic"
[Hero CDMA General] gunnyman:
+2 and then 10chars.
[Hero CDMA General] regaw_leinad:
?????? It's you??????? I just rooted your "phone" last night.... you asked me in my Offering help thread, and we did it in 6 minutes!!....

& +1 on the off topic/ general
[Hero CDMA General] phenicks:
shameless plug... LOL

nice job on the roots though, you totally cant tell they're not natural
[Hero CDMA General] gunnyman:
Also when I posted the age poll thread it was for me to grasp the general demographic this place deals with. From the back and forth bickering and other shenanigans (love that word) I assumed the forum was full of sub 18 year old kids who's mommy and daddy bought them a nice phone.

I was pleasantly surprised that it turned into an "introduce yourself" thread.

Kinda cool that a NOOB like myself could invoke such great conversation.
[Hero CDMA General] Papa Smurf151:
Respectfully, Politely, and with all sincerity this is one of the best post i have seen in a long time. I completely agree when it comes to a community coming together and helping everyone out. We all know what it felt like to be a "noob" around here. I have seen with my own eyes some of the new guys around here get very frustrated at the reactions from some of its senior members when it comes to questions and learning. I am no angel by far but hope that by starting this thread and open line of communication that it will go a long way in bringing this forum back together instead of fighting so much.

Also when it comes to growing pains I can completely understand where you are coming from. I see it everyday. Before when the cdma was was but a small sub-forum there was some fighting but nothing like there has been of late. I can only hope that it subsides and that the contributors of the problems realize its is tearing the forum apart and it forces some of our brightest dev's to go else where (gbhil and others...we miss all there great work).

Now on the matters of the moderators. I have posted this before but want to repeat this as i think i really matters. I know you guys are human and have your good days and your bad days. People and situations get on ur nerves just like they do for everyone else. But as a moderator i believe you were chosen to take this role and agreed to take this role cause you were a beacon of sorts. You are to act responsibly with respect and politeness. To show good judgment and the desire to want to help and yet have to be forceful at times. This forcefulness can be done in a better manner than just coming in and deleting a bunch of threads or closing them and either not giving a reason or being rude about it then saying this is ur first and last warning i will ban you blah blah blah. Not saying you personally do that but i have seen other mods do that and i spoke out against them. I believe and have all trust in you guys. But talking and reasoning and sometimes defusing a situation is better than sweeping it under a rug and hoping it just goes away. I feel the same way about banning someone. Its almost pointless to do this. A new ip address can be acquired as well as a new user id and email address. I know of several banned users in here as we speak that are using second and third user names until there main one is un banned so what is the point if you know what i mean.

I look forward to the town meeting of sorts to see what ideas can be thrown out there and to have the moderators see that we can be adults and treat each other as such.
[Hero CDMA General] regaw_leinad:
I think the last few posts have been great.. too bad my ADHD hasn't allowed me to fully finish reading them lol
[Hero CDMA General] markus_del_marko:
:confused:

I thought he was banned? Not that i care or is it my business but isn't this the point of half the arguments around here? People using other names to troll and cause issues. Im glad to see mods are willing to work with the community none the less.
[Hero CDMA General] Papa Smurf151:
i didnt see him trolling or causing issues. He made a great point and it was directed to the moderator. If u would like to add something worth while instead of being part of the problem then please feel free.
[Hero CDMA General] markus_del_marko:
Im not part of any problem other than ive been accused 3x by him of being someone else because im new here . I do give him credit to say he created a new name but im sorta shocked the mods are ok with that. I guess i read the rules of this site wrong. No harm no foul. I wasn't calling him a troll, that other guy who created 1000 names this morning i am.
[Hero CDMA General] tejasrichard:
Very nice response. I would also like to point out that we, in the hero community, don't have nearly the interaction with the mods here as I am used to seeing in other forums. I mean, really, the only time we see you guys is when someone is getting a warning etc. I'm sure you can see how this might lead to a skewed perception. I'd like to say that all of the mods that have posted today have been very reasonable and less heavy-handed than had sometimes been the case. Thanks for listening.

And I'm fairly certain that most here know how I'd feel about an off-topic section. If you start one, you might as well name it after me, cause that's where I'll live from now on :D
[Hero CDMA General] Papa Smurf151:
i can understand that. there has been alot of confusion around here lately. That is the point of the town meeting and hopefully all of the drama will cease and we can go back to joking around, having fun, and making our phones look great and run great. I dont know if u are a new guy or if u are someone that was banned. Honestly I dont care as long as u are respectful to others and dont cause problems. and that goes for who ever reads this that is banned and is using a second or third user name.
[Hero CDMA General] markus_del_marko:
Apparently it wouldn't matter on xda. But after reading most threads on this board i find it may be best to just keep to yourself and only help when absolutely needed. I think that's how alot of noobs think anymore, i think the mod above mentioned that too. I am sorry if i spoke my mind but this is probably going to be alot of what you guys hear in that town meeting you may hold. Sorry for any inconvenience in this thread and i hope we can all work our issues out.
[Hero CDMA General] phenicks:
this post is an experiment
[Hero CDMA General] drummingfool:
Alright guys, here goes.

These forums are a great place for developers, enthusiasts, noobs, masters and everyone in between to come together and share a wealth of knowledge concerning this amazingly awesome open source platform.

Are we seriously going to let petty internet arguments, name calling and trolling stand in the way?

No. No, we're not.

I personally am all for the town hall meeting idea with the mods involved, and +9001 for having the general section become general / off-topic.

We all share one thing here guys... a love for the platform. Thats why I'm here, and its why I'll stay here. I have nothing but respect for the mods. And as a former large scale forum admin / mod, I know how hard it can be to keep the peace when bickering and bantering take the front seat and shove development off to the trunk space. The mods do their best to uphold the rules, then everyone starts screaming "DICTATORSHIP!" and nobody wins.

If you have a problem with the mods, take it up formally. Sitting in a thread and freaking out at the people responsible for keeping this place tidy until they close / remove / ban, and then stating they never did anything to fix the problems is NOT the way to handle things. Its simply childish.

If this nonsense doesnt stop, this forum can very easily and quickly become a place that people end up at after a google search, and leave within a couple minutes because all they find is ridiculous arguing and no development. All that leads to is fewer people picking up on the backend of the platform, thus resulting in fewer developers and lack of customization.

If you're not here to be part of the community, add to it and take part, then perhaps you should step over to another forum. I love this place, and I support whatever it takes to keep it on track.
[Hero CDMA General] Jack-Johnson:
how would u know hes banned ur a noob right u just stumbled upon this forum yesterday......:rolleyes:
[Hero CDMA General] markus_del_marko:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6532241&postcount=86

;) Word travels fast when theres 1000 topics and with everybody *****ing and moaning. On top of the fact every noob that signs up is accused of being someone else, your new so who are you? Get my drift.
[Hero CDMA General] smixxer:
yep u know what i mean
[Hero CDMA General] markus_del_marko:
Not worth my time nor the effort, sorry to the OP.
[Hero CDMA General] Papa Smurf151:
alright thats enough of the fighting. I dont care who either one of you are. What i can tell you is that you two are supposed to be adults and are acting like childish babies. If ur new then stay out of it. If ur first user name is banned and ur back as someone else then shut up, stop ur whining, grow up, and start contributing to the forums instead of trolling. If u were here before but never posted till now...why would u want to get involved and start posting with an attitude. Cant u see that this thread was put together in the hopes of stopping all this and bring the community back together. If u have something negative to say then go to a different forum and say then come back and show us what you can do when it comes to the development of our phones...be it theming modding, or dev roms. Other than that enough with the past.
[Hero CDMA General] markus_del_marko:
I wasn't fighting with him, he asked a question and i answered it. And please stop insinuating that im someone else, im really sick of it already. This whole forum has gone to hell in a matter of 2 days. Im done here, apparently this thread attracts bad news and i won't be part of it. As i said earlier good luck to you and the community on resolving this.
[Hero CDMA General] Jack-Johnson:
im in total agreeance with u to hell with the past long live the future
[Hero CDMA General] drummingfool:
Best thing said in at least the past 20 posts.

As for my opinion on some of the others...

Are you guys (not everyone obviously, but I'm not naming anyone) trying to get this section closed down? If you've got issues, PM each other. Call each other. Text each other. Find each other and beat each other with baseball bats. WHATEVER. Your arguments about member legitimacy and others' stupidity are not public domain, at least not here. Grow up and get over it.

That is all, I think. </rant>

But I will again mention that, yes, I'm all for a meeting with the mods. Sounds delightful. Seriously.
[Hero CDMA General] Jack-Johnson:
drumming fool that post about ur brain crawling down ur arm and shatting upon ur hand has made me laugh and laugh and laugh i damn near peed in my pants the first few times i read it i love it good job bro
[Hero CDMA General] Papa Smurf151:
if u read the whole post is states three different scenarios. 1 that if ur new stay out of it.....u can read the rest. It was directed at both of you and also to anyone else that reads it.
[Hero CDMA General] drummingfool:
lol well thanks, I try my best to keep the expressions of my frustrations as lightweight as possible. :)
[Hero CDMA General] Jack-Johnson:
i dont know bro its gonna be a tough time ever coming up with a better post then that even now i cant read it without uncontrollable laughter.... im good until i get to the shat upon my hand part then i lose it
[Hero CDMA General] jerry43812:
That's why he earned a spot in my siggy.
[Hero CDMA General] drummingfool:
I am honored and privileged, lol.
[Hero CDMA General] Jack-Johnson:
yes but it was my thread to which it complained so i feel as if i own some of it
[Hero CDMA General] smoother2010:
i approve this thread. ;)
[Hero CDMA General] drummingfool:
My name is drummingfool and I approve this message.
[Hero CDMA General] wtphoto:
you know I am kind of torn about this "town hall meeting" on one hand I think that it is a good idea because I think there have been issues on both sides. we have people fighting and flaming and trolling and it really gets old reading the same crap posts over and over and then we have as of late had a very heavy handed moding of our forum and yes I can understand that it gets frustrating for them to constantly be called to this forum because of the things that I mentioned above however I feel that as a mod it is your job to be the example and keep a level head at all times no matter what. so yes in that respect I think the town hall would be nice so discus out vareing point of view on the situations as of late.

on the other hand we are going through growing pains and I think we will continue to do so until people start understanding a few things. senior members and people who have been here for awhile need to remember what it was like to be a newb and to have a question about something but not even know where to begin to look for an answer, its hard to do a search for something that you really dont understand what to even search for (this rom vs that rom threads aside). To the newbs that might read this you need to understand that those of us who have been here for awhile do get very tired of answering the same questions over and over and over again, a lot of us have taken a good chunk of our time to create detailed how-to guides to answer these common questions. If you cant find the answer to your question then post in the rom,mod,theme thread that you are having problems with.

I personally think that it is a shame that it has come to this point. I know that I am spending more and more time in other forums because of all of the stuff thats been going on here and I have seen a few others go elsewhere as well.

we all just need to get over ourselves and just be helpful it takes just as long to say "heres a link" to answer a question as it does to say "try the search". To the people out there that constantly complain for one reason or another, instead of saying "this or that is a crap whatever" try some constructive critisisum instead or try to fix the problem yourself and add to the community and if all else fails, if you dont have anything nice to say then dont say anything at all.
[Hero CDMA General] smoother2010:
i agree, in my mind a meeting will solve nothing. all of this crap over a fight between fixxxer and neb. now we lost them both minus the impersonators. we just need to let things cool off.
[Hero CDMA General] dirkyd3rk:
I think this is a sausage fest soap opera, why are grown men whining. I've used xda for three diff phone, dash, g1, and mytouch. This is the only one that I've been in and heard so much drama, who cares can't everyone just share their work so we can make this crappy hero into something really good without having to see lost about people whining or people creating new names who cares dudes its not that big of a deal, were men, some people need to go find a girlfriend or hobby, something cause were arguing online in a forum. That's whack. I'm going to take a bong rip, some of you should try it, it makes my hero seem to run faster.

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[Hero CDMA General] jerry43812:
If you really want to get to the root cause of what made our section the way it is today, step just a little further back and look at the big picture, not just one hunk of the collage.

In fact, step forward beyond what this is now, and work for a better future?
[Hero CDMA General] MagnusRagnarok:
I remember a while back, i posted my first thread,something like childs play if i remember correctly........Long story short, i spouted off somewhat disrespectfuly, not having ANYone in mind exactly...... Well needless to say i got flamed and was quickly put in my place and the thread was closed. Well one of the responses in the thread asked me what ive contributed to the community, and i thought about it.....................He had a point...........................i had contributed NOTHING but some negativity. Well ive been working hard ever since to bring less negativity and more creativity, also to provide cdma hero rom mods,themes,advice,help w/e i can do to contribute. We just need to focus more on CONTRIBUTION, and less on CONFRONTATION.I really enjoy it here....... I try to put things together that we dont have the option of yet for the few members that like what i do but may not be able to do it themselves yet.Sucks to see everyone not getting along and arguing. Yes i know the point of this thread and i can respect that as an idea for a way to solve these issues. Ive been learning so much and been so busy working on new stuff from all the new leaks that i never picked up on ANY of this stuff till i just read this thread.......man i couldve just gotten ALOT more work done, YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW LONG IT JUST TOOK ME TO TYPE THIS...............JUST MY 2CENTS. Back to work:D

Im not worried, These problems will be largely resolved by the 4th regardless......COME ON EVERYONE THIS IS XDA............... ISNT THERE A NEW ROM TO MOD, THEME TO PORT, OR SOME SOURCE CODE TO COMPILE???:D:D:D​