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[G1 Android Development] bassbox:
(Andriod Team Q&A Live Blog)

I have no idea, so please don't flame2much^^, does this is in any way helpful for us G1 users? Simmiliar drivers or something?
[G1 Android Development] Headinawheel:
Froyo is supposed to be where Google tries to unify the builds across devices - so hopefully all builds (...cupcake, donut, eclair) were just leading up to this one. They also said something like the next release after Froyo will be after a larger time interval.

I -really- can't wait to see what roms are gonna be like with the new build!
[G1 Android Development] Ace42:
I'm just wanna know what will happen to dev that use Sense,Blur, and Pulse UIs. They just upgraded and now they have to worry about 2.2, then this Gingerbread is also going to be talked about.
[G1 Android Development] protomanez:
Hopefully it won't have the same start as eclair.
[G1 Android Development] defconoi:
Haykuro is working on a rom for the G1, but it wont have much drivers, he said he is going to try and get the radio working

http://twitter.com/haykuro
[G1 Android Development] jubeh:
I was trying to post this since this morning but my connection has been dropping:

---edit----

I just noticed OP is the system image you need for this, so you flash this boot and that system

Note radio won't work, so no calls, no internet.

If somebody won't work on a port, I might do it later.
[G1 Android Development] jcarrz1:
3d launcher now works native (w/o mod) on hvga.

amazing speed (in emulator)

new widgets

new dialog boxes

Shows AM/PM in time smaller.

youtube widget

market widget

new market

hawt looks

EXCITING STUFF!!! Ima try and port.
[G1 Android Development] nickstewartroc:
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I gave porting it a go, no matter what i did, i kept getting symlink errors in xbin!
[G1 Android Development] Sik-1:
u need to add the htc_libril.so something like that
[G1 Android Development] jubeh:
I know that, but I'm not really working on a port, I meant to say that flashing the sdk image with the boot I put up would only make it boot but not work properly.
[G1 Android Development] mejorguille:
What about getting the apk's from froyo running on eclair? I'm not too much of a dev at all but I will try to get some apks like launcher2 or youtube to run on CM5. Does this seem feasable without the froyo framework?

Edit: I don't think I have any clue about what I am doing=p What I've tried it pushing the build.prop from the nexus froyo rom and trying to install launcher2, but that didnt work. Then I tried copying the entire /framework from froyo, but as I expected it froze up my phone... Don't have any ideas lol, I'll leave it to the great cyanogen and haykuro and others who can backport froyo goodies to out phones=p
[G1 Android Development] vegaman:
Tried checking if you have enough space on /system ?
[G1 Android Development] jubeh:
Froyo is not too radically different from Eclair, so some things should still be able to work, like the launcher, but ofcourse,there's still that sdk level check, so edit your eclair build.prop and change sdk-level from 7 to 8 and toss in the launcher from froyo, it should work.

BTW, what's all this youtube, and market, etc people are talking about. Those are Google apps not available with the sdk build, are they? Did I miss something? Last I knew, the newest versions of those apps we should have available should be eclair's, did you guys somehow get a hold of a more complete build of froyo?
[G1 Android Development] anomalous3:
I'm just gonna try to pull the libdvm.so from this......
[G1 Android Development] Sik-1:
y would the libdvm.so work if its only an sdk dump???
[G1 Android Development] mejorguille:
I did try using the build.prop from the booting nexus rom when trying to install the apps but it was still a no go=( and mentioning youtube in my previous post was a mistake on my part, froyo youtube is not out yet=p
[G1 Android Development] anomalous3:
The idea was to unpack the android-8 system.img and pull it from there but it doesn't seem too happy. Then again, I'm not sure if that system.img is made to run on x86 architecture or if the AVDs actually emulate ARM architecture. If it's the former, then there's no way it could work. If it's the latter however....
[G1 Android Development] xaueious:
AVDs do emulate ARM. You can run adb pull on the emulator. Try it.
[G1 Android Development] anomalous3:
Then there's hope yet to get proper froyo JIT running on eclair!
[G1 Android Development] prince.siraj:
Yeah... Most people my age (15) are definitely stupid... Seriously why waste time posting stupid stuff when you can help people by reading useful threads and using that to help others? -.- I try to offset them lol
[G1 Android Development] protomanez:
Think of the G1 dev thread as "The Slums" where there are little smart people but a lot of dumbasses(because the G1 is cheap >_<). The Nexus One is like, modern society with less dumbasses and more smart people.
[G1 Android Development] anomalous3:
This is because most people who own a nexus one:

1. Know about the Nexus one and

2. Can afford it

i.e. mostly tech professionals

(note; I'm not making any socioeconomic judgements; I can't afford a nexus one either, just saying that the demographic of people who own a Nexus One is fairly specific)
[G1 Android Development] jubeh:
Actually, no. A lot of idiots own the N1. Main reason for it not being a hit is not that it's not cheap (it's available for subsidy, after all), but because not many people know about it. Google relied more on word-of-mouth from geek to geek rather than advertising, so not many real people know about it.

Same reason Motorola Droid sold better than the G1, even though it sucks hairy monkey balls.
[G1 Android Development] anomalous3:
hmm, turns out that the sdk version doesn't have JIT enabled anyways. So much for my big idea.
[G1 Android Development] B6gSix:
awesome thanks for the post bro but how do i get started making my own froyo rom lol im still tryna learn that. but any tutors willing jus hit me in the inbox.
[G1 Android Development] djUniversal:
The nexus 1 official ROM

can anyone use this (http) bit.ly / aCDBwh (sorry i cant post urls) to port to 32a?

it is the manual update file for n1
[Nexus One General] nonameduck:
I installed WaveSecure as a system app a while ago, and then a new version came out. I updated my version using the update.zip provided on the WaveSecure site, but the Market constantly tells me that WaveSecure needs to be updated. I just downloaded the update.zip and flashed it again to make sure I have the newest version, but Market is still telling me to update. Am I doing something wrong?
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vita10gy:
Last night after it was found out the leak and the official release were identical I loaded Fresh 2.1.1. I realized as it was loading I forgot to wipe the phone. I figured I'd let it finish and just have to redo it, but I turned my phone on anyway, just to see.

Everything seems fine. The update seemed to leave everything in tact, while running fine. (and freeing up 55mb of space for apps despite seemingly installing the same apps and leaving mine) The update worked, there are noticeable style differences in quite a few places.

My question is, is this an illusion? Am I not really running the updated versions in some areas? Are there behind the scenes things going on that make it error check and fall back to old "backward comparability" type things, make it slower, etc? Or is wiping just a "safety" thing to give you the best odds of success?

Is my phone going to burst into flames in my sleep, or did I get lucky because most incompatibility examples would be obvious? :)

I'm not using apps2sd.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abcdfv:
Wiping is a safety thing, and also required if there are major changes between versions.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thatjerk:
If it is working then don't worry about it. I have flashed 2.1 ROMs over each other before without any problems before, for example a Damageless's Rom over Flipz's. I think as long as the framework matches there is likely to be no problem.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vita10gy:
I found one thing that doesn't work. The people app force closes every time I go to actually view a contact.

Does anyone know a good way to clear the contacts without deleting them? (If you delete them in the contact app google syncs the deletion, as it should.)

Actually it looks like it's only a problem on the contacts linked to facebook. Maybe if I can find a way to unlink them, and then link them again, without opening them, they'll be fine.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vita10gy:
Just had to removed and re add my facebook account. Good times. So maybe people don't need to redo their phone to jump from 2.0d to 2.1.1. Give it a try.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scirio:
You've inspired me to give it a try. i, however unlike you, do use a2sd and it's picky as **** so hopefully that stays in tact.

I'll post results after.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] behnaam:
Here is a little sneak peak of froyo on Hero:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_Bir6OldNM
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] okdac:
:eek:

1 word : wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] jarski12345:
Man that's AWESOME!:D:D
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] tucka20:
amazing benhaam :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] trashed78:
whats the Linpack score with JIT on?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] GXFX:
will it be released ?

Edit : I read your twitter :D
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] behnaam:
No it wont be released as, why? Because its based on the SDK images that was not meant to run on devices ;)

Wait until android git gets refreshed
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] GXFX:
AAH :(

Anyway , good job :D
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] xaueious:
Was wondering where you got kernel source 2.6.29 from
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] pulser_g2:
don't ask too many questions :D

Behnaam has his sources ;)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] RaduG:
It's the same kernel from all the htc leaks ports available now...
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] MysteryHero:
What's is the Linpack for Android MFLOPS score?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] marinierb:
If it's anything like 2.1, we will not have any fully functioning 2.2 ROMs until the manufacturers release device-specific drivers.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] pulser_g2:
Is it? I wouldn't be so sure ;) Behnaam can have things he isn't allowed to release due to protecting leakers at HTC. I know someone with almost-final RUU for GSM Hero. But he can't release it cos it's all watermarked
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] xaueious:
I thought he did something cool to the toastcfh CDMA Hero kernel:

http://github.com/toastcfh/CdMa-HeRoC-2.6.29

That was just refreshed his github within the last 24 hours.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] mobydeek:
anyone care to explain what behnaam meant? :o
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] GXFX:
hm.. :D

hey , let me ask you as off-topic .

when will villain 6 be released ?

thanks :D
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] behnaam:
Well here is some proof which the other dev (wont mention names) couldnt get:

Im holding it back because I have some issues that needs to be resolved

EDIT: Happy now? :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] GXFX:
nice :D

what about the BeHero 1.3 rom ?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] apesgrapes:
looks a bit slow & buggy to be fair. and not sure i like the wallpaper of that dude holding a camera, is that stock?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] behnaam:
Its not a rom just a preview of what Froyo will look like :) Thought it was just funny to show people.

The ones built from source will be alot faster ;)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] RaduG:
All I can say that it's very good to know that the sources are in good hands.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] tkm89:
Surely there's a way to remove the watermarks?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] cyberkid2002:
so will this run well enough on the .29 kernel? I thought Froyo required a later (.32???) kernel. Will certain things be not working/unreliable unless we get an updated kernel from HTC or am I barking up the wrong tree?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] behnaam:
Well the SDK runs on a .29 kernel so I would assume building from source and using .29 kernels will work with froyo
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] cyberkid2002:
good stuff!!! Very excited now!!! Does everything work based on your test (GPS, WiFi, Cell Connection, G-Sensor etc.)?

So realistically we are looking at having a 2.2 ROM in weeks!
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] trashed78:
closer to days :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] behnaam:
Well I think we would possible be able to use a stripped down version of 2.2, yes. Removing all junk that doesnt work very well on the Hero.

The one I flashed is based on the SDK, so it doesnt init all services, and I will not spend time in gettings things working, since the source code will be out anyways soon so we can compile from source. So nothing works on the build running on my Hero
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] cyberkid2002:
@benocharm: Thanks very much for taking the time to respond! Completely understand you havent spent time getting things working on the SDK build. I was just trying to get my head around what we can expect when 2.2 sources are released. Last I heard it needed a different kernel so had pretty much given up hope of ever seeing it on the Hero so am over the moon now!
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] apesgrapes:
sorry mate, the post was just a joke :o
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] alexandervandam1982:
where do we get it ?????????
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] GXFX:
it hasn´t been release YET ! ( We have to wait google release android git :S )
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] alexandervandam1982:
ok but how can it be on a htc hero in the vid? the must be a release i think;)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] bonesy:
Alex its on his hero because....its made for Android emulators,it just so happens that the sdk images are 160dpi same as the hero so he was able to port it on his hero.I suppose he's basically using his hero as an emulator! What I'm more interested in is the kernel on there!benhaam could be our savior! Thanks for doing this benhaam you have given me hope after my depressing day today,seeing an "official" kernel ROM only to find out it was bs

Much love man you are a legend!

P.S please don't stop cooking for the hero would be a shame to lose a brilliant dev! Lost cyanogen to the nexus when I had my magic :-(
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] BigD18t:
from a tweet last night behnaam said the heros a sinking ship, and hes going to move to a new destination.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] bonesy:
That why i beg him not to leave :'(
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] SpooXter:
OK but I want to know why the Hero is a sunken ship. All the other phones get out of the factory with no almost flaws and only the newest software, meaning that if you have a newer device you will have less to do cuz almost everything is ready. Our heroes are a greater challenge and there is always more to be done to them. Maybe the only problem is that they have hvga screens and in the future they may get "extinct". I think that thats where hero development can stop.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] mikael120:
the reason the hero is a sinking ship is because HTC probably won't waste any more time upgrading it, which means that one day it will probably be impossible to upgrade to the latest android version, regardless of how skilled our devs are.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] developing:
Feeyo's 2.6.29 kernel wasn't bs, if that's what you were referring to. He did indeed have the sources, but why he didn't put a custom kernel in Cronos 1.0 is beyond me. Either way, toastcfh and behnaam have their Hero .29 kernel sources out for everyone to see.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] jaymac407:
It's pretty easy to get 2.2 running. What isn't easy is to get Audio, Wifi, Bluetooth and networking working.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] adwinp:
Well, I got a port running last week, but the problem is fixing for a compatile libhardware_legacy to get our stuff working.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6555730&postcount=775
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] mardurhack:
adwinp what did you use? Nexus One Rom or SDK? Thanks for your experiment ;)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] tenfar:
i am was able to run the sdk image on my hero.but there are some problems,

1st:radio dont work

2nd:wifi dont work.

3rd:freeze at about 5 min after the system boot.

4th...more problem to be found.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] adwinp:
SDK.

You can't use Nexus one bins since that's armv7
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] shenye:
not really a sneak peak since htc wont update the hero to 2.2 :P
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] behnaam:
Well devs will when source code is avaliable ;)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] ddotpatel:
Who needs HTC when we have these guys.

Keep pushing those boundaries fellas,... we know you can do it!!
[HD2 General] atlboy4321:
Help I Cant Connect To ActiveSync Via Usb ( But My Phone Still Is Able To Charge Via Usb Thru My Comp.) & I Want To Upgrage My Hd2 To The New Stock Rom 2.13 (Because All The Freezing!) I Want To Know Is There Any Way I Can Do This Thru My Sd Card Or ActiveSync Bluetooth??? Because I Have Been Seeing On The Internet That You Cant Do It Without HSPL But I Can Get HSPL Without Being Able To Connect My Hd2 Via Usb !

SO SOME1 PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!
[HD2 General] lavagirl:
I came across similar issues too. I just plugged my HD2 via USB to another computer and activesync started working just fine.

Also give the below a try

-connecting to different USB ports to make activesync pop up on the pc

-reinstalling activesync
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
also make sure you have the latest version of activesync (you on a winxp machine?)
[HD2 General] rysky007:
just had same problem, not sure how to do this on vista or 7 OS i use xp.

on XP:

Right click on My computer

Left click on properties

select hardware

Press Device manager

Under Portable Devices

you will see you phone listed

double click on it.. then press enable device ( Large gray button lower right hand corner of screen )

then your active sync will make a sound and should connect with it.

Hope this helps
[XPERIA X10 General] amir84:
i can't understand nothing from all the threads here

is there a way to realy root the phone?? or nothing?

if there is why isn;t there any guid for that?

i realy need it to let the phone support another languges

thanks for helping
[XPERIA X10 General] Tulips:
still nothing....:rolleyes:
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
please don't post without searching first. There's already a sticky thread for general queries on rooting..

MOD.. please delete this thread.
[XPERIA X10 General] egzthunder1:
Thread Moved.
[XPERIA X10 General] hoss_n2:
no and won't be any root :o:o
[XPERIA X10 General] Deleted member 1719473:
Why are all you comment pessimistic? Root is possible... sure... and I'm sure too that the Cleopatra's tumb it's there, in some place :) keep away to be like the bottom of a AA Battery :p be like the top.. positive!
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
@hoss_n2 - I'm with ondoteam.. most of your posts are really negative.. you need to get something good in your life man.. it's not healthy.
[XPERIA X10 General] junexyz:
hehehehe

i agree all we need is to wait and cross finger that 2.1 or 2.2 will coming soon and aim sure lots of different gesture and features will came....:rolleyes:
[XPERIA X10 General] hoss_n2:
it is a big problem with me ,all my friens said that ,and it starts with me since htc promised wp7 for hd2 ,but microsoft refused because of the number of buttons it has :(:(:( i never trusts oem any more
[XPERIA X10 General] dkyu:
I am not really familiar with rooting.

Does it actually mean we can install the plain android (2.1 or 2.2?) once someone figure how to root X10?
[XPERIA X10 General] Higgins12:
Sorry to be a pessimist but i truly doubt that there ever will or was root at the X10. Also the try via SETool i don't believe there ever was root archived (anyone seen proof for it ?). Sounds like a Fake to me. So after watching the whole "progress" it seems we have the first Android Device which cant be rooted. Means for us to wait in patient for SE updates and maybe we get 2.2 next Year in June. :-( so what i guess I'm going to sell my X10 as long i can still get some Money for it.
[XPERIA X10 General] andy8271:
why are you being so negative in ever single root thread ? do you think the rubbish you are spouting is helping anyone ? well its not... so please stop. must the stuff you have been saying is total rubbish. like your ''it will never get root because it is not a popular phone'' comment in the other thread. its the top selling smartphone asia has ever had and it is selling amazingly well in the UK too
[XPERIA X10 General] nsane:
The motorola milestone has been out for AGES and it has not been rooted yet (technically, I think it's the bootloader that is locked...pretty much the same in terms of results).

So the X10 is not an isolated case.

What I don't understand is why these manufacturers don't realise that by making it so hard to root their phones they are actually hurting their own sales.

My only hope, regarding the X10, is that since the phone has sold 160k units in Jpana, someone might be able to root it over there.
[XPERIA X10 General] rocketpaul:
yes it has
[XPERIA X10 General] hoss_n2:
motorolla is rooted ages ago
[XPERIA X10 General] tn89uk:
SETool!! the way forward...

SETool!! its the way forward...

:D
[Nexus One General] spazoid:
So reading up on this. It is not official that I know of at this moment.

But hulu was a no show for Google I/O 2010, and this was found

http://tech.icrontic.com/news/android-2-2-is-official-froyos-features-and-phones-revealed/

http://www.pcworld.com/article/196727/first_look_android_22_froyo_with_flash_player_101.html

http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/20/flash-10-1-for-android-beta-unveiled-hulu-a-no-show-froyo-now/

UPDATE: The news seems to be true, as I am awaiting an email from HULU. Will post ASAP

Update: Hulu is refusing to comment, however you cannot play hulu on android flash. BUT there is a trick...See here
[Nexus One General] athereal:
Apparently Hulu doesn't have the rights to broadcast their content to any non-desktop devices. That's something they'll have to sort out with the networks.
[Nexus One General] chesh420:
They also go on to say that this could very well be a temporary lock as Flash hasn't hit the mobile market in full yet. Once it's out on the handsets (~Jun 17th) that lock will probably be lifted. Also, I wouldn't worry so much. If you have a rooted phone, you can always use a proxy and change your UserAgent to something that is supported.
[Nexus One General] mortzz:
Change your user agent to desktop (through about:debug) and it loads fine.

The videos play badly though. Audio comes in clear, but the framerate is terrible, more like a slideshow.
[Nexus One General] chesh420:
Which browser are you using on the Nexus that you have the about:debug option?
[Nexus One General] krabman:
Be curious to see the result on froyo.
[Nexus One General] mortzz:
Stock Chrome browser. Type that in, hit enter, and go to settings. All the way at the bottom you have the option to change your user agent (among other things) to Android, Desktop (as OSX IIRC), and iPhone.

This is of Froyo, but it's an early non accelerated Flashplayer 10.1
[Nexus One General] bougelahi:
I've read hulu blocks all non-desktop users because they can't control who see's it. Technically I think it is only legal for U.S. residents to watch the shows on hulu and if it is a mobile phone they can't detect where they are.
[Nexus One General] mortzz:
They detect through IP address though.
[Nexus One General] chesh420:
Hrm, not working for me. Must be cause of the tweaks done in the Cyanogen builds. When I click Go, it just goes back to the last web page I viewed and does nothing.
[Nexus One General] mortzz:
It's not supposed to do anything. Go to settings after you hit enter.