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[EVO 4G General] watzone69:
OK,I'm getting tired of all of the debates, rumors, and conspiracy theories out there. Here are 2 jpgs of the email I received from Sprint when the EVO was announced. The only digital manipulation that has been done to these is that I blacked out my email address.

To quote Stan Lee, "'Nuff said."
[EVO 4G General] Bp3dots:
RadioShack will not match this price. (We pretty much don't match any prices anymore) I would also doubt BB will unless you are real tight with a manager there.
[EVO 4G General] watzone69:
At the Radio Shack I went to, the guy said that they pretty much WILL match Sprint's price.

So, my question, is there an official policy or is it just up to how nice of a person the store manager is?
[EVO 4G General] Bp3dots:
It may vary by area, but in my district, that price match would get you termed. :eek:
[EVO 4G General] watzone69:
Yikes! We non-upgrade folks had better be thinking on our feet on June 4th. Sounds like nothing is certain.
[EVO 4G General] TheBiles:
It should be fun! I can't decide if I should head to RadioShack or the Sprint store first. They are literally right across the parking lot from one another.

Edit: Looks like I will hit RadioShack first since Sprint doesn't open til 10.
[EVO 4G General] Bp3dots:
I can tell you that the shack will have them for 499 outright. (if you can get your hands on one lol.)
[EVO 4G General] ihakr:
I can't wait to print this off and show my iPhone fanboys this chart!
[EVO 4G General] tatnai:
their fanboys. by definition, data (aka chart) really won't matter. you'll start hearing things like "well, the iPhone experience..."

don't worry, though, once they play with it they will get the experience . . . maybe.
[EVO 4G General] apristel:
I am by no means an apple/iphone fan, but that chart is wildly stupid.

Lets compare somethings that aren't so effing obvious..kickstand? come on, we know.

evo still rocks, but man, gay ass comparision charts.
[EVO 4G General] LordLugard:
Hmm, the flier is a bit deceptive. T-Mobile's Even More Plus $59.99 plan sure beats their minimum $79.99 Evo plan with the exception of Any Mobile to Any Network thingy. Including tax, that's already pushing over $90 a month...just too much.

http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/...tb1&rateplan=Even-More-Plus-500-Talk-Text-Web

I'm serious considering moving from Sprint elsewhere. Here in NYC, T-mo and Sprint's signal are just fine. I could score a Nexus One for $300 and get on the $59.99 T-Mobile dealio (plus no contract). Tough times..these are.
[EVO 4G General] Mecha2142:
The Evo is a 4g phone; therefore, it has a $10 surcharge added to it. T-Mobile does not have any 4g phones yet; therefore, it hasn't had to add any additional costs. Every other smartphone on Sprint is still $69.99 a month.

So that leaves us with Tmobile at $59.99 a month with 500 minutes and unlimited calls to T-mobile customers versus Sprint at $69.99 a month with 450 minutes and unlimited calls to any mobile. Maybe it's just me, but I'll take Sprint's generous mobile plan and better variety of devices.
[EVO 4G General] LordLugard:
So the Evo is magically going to give me 4G in my area (because it has 4G in its name) when THERE IS NO 4G in my area???

T-mo's HSPA network rivals Sprint Wi-Max speeds if you don't know. I use less than 200 voice minutes a month (but rather data and texts), so Sprint's anymobile whatever means nothing to me. At the end of the month, it's the bill that matters to me. I wouldn't mind a 49.99 plan with 300 minutes/data/text on Sprint given the choice 'cause it would suit my needs just fine. I'm still trudging along on a free and clear from 2002 (been with Sprint almost 12yrs).

Sprint does NOT have a better variety of devices, not even close. The Evo is great and in a league of its own i'll admit, but GSM always gets better devices and first too. I'll be content with a Nexus One @ 59.99/month really.
[EVO 4G General] TickLe MY eLMo:
Yeah, because sprint is the first company with a 4g phone, the best phone on the market right now, fail statement at the end there bud.
[EVO 4G General] aldaris652:
if you can really get a n1 for 300$ do it right away, i did the same, but i didnt like it, i had it a little less than 2 weeks, but was told that if i wanted to return it i had to pay 50$ which i though twas stupid, so what i did (today) was sell my n1 for 400$ that should cover my 200$ etf fee and the 200$ for the evo, if i gotta pay a litttle extra i dont mind at all :] i pay 87$ as it is on tmobile so paying 5 bux more for sprint dont bug me :p go evo.
[EVO 4G General] |Jason8|:
I'd get on Tibbles with an N1... but their coverage is terrible. It's good in some areas (pockets around cities, mostly), but I would have to drive 50 miles from my house to find one of their towers. So Sprint it is! :D
[EVO 4G General] p-slim:
The $10 isn't for 4g, that should be obvious being that non 4g markets have to pay the $10 as well. The $10 is because sprint has no high end phone like that and no matter if your in a 3g area or a 4g area, you will use more bandwidth then with any of sprints other phones. Why everyone keeps calling it a 4g is beyond me.
[EVO 4G General] TheBiles:
Huh? Just because it is a nicer phone doesn't mean I will be using any more bandwidth on 3G with my EVO than I will with my Hero on 3G. It is fairly obvious that it is either a) a 4G fee that Sprint is being a **** about, or b) a luxury tax that Sprint thinks they can get away with charging everyone. I have no idea where you got this concept that "high-end phones" use more bandwidth than other Android devices under the same data speeds.
[EVO 4G General] p-slim:
You are dilusional if you think you will use the same bandwidth you do with a hero as you will with the evo. The evo WILL CAUSE YOU TO USE MORE DATA. Both of your explanations make no sense plus and just want to blame the carrier. The fact that the processor plus the os, sprint knows you will double your bandwidth with the evo going from a hero. The hero is slow, if i'm in front of my computer i'm definitely going to type on the computer. With the evo, the processor is so fast i will honestly probably reply to most request from the actual phone now. This is just a small example, but get over yourself if you want to believe you will use the same amount of data. Anybody who would use the same amount of data, guess what, they'll buy the hero and not pay the $10.
[EVO 4G General] TheBiles:
What the hell does processor speed have to do anything when my data speed is bottle-necked by the NETWORK? 3G isn't going to magically go faster for my EVO than it does on my Hero!
[EVO 4G General] p-slim:
exactly 3g isn't going to magically go faster which is why i said you aren't paying for 4g or 3g. Data speeds isn't the bottle neck lol. Take the hero and the evo both on the same network and the evo will open pages about 10 seconds faster. Which is why you aren't paying for 4g. You're paying for the data increase Sprint is assuming you will have. I have a tp2 on sprint and when the nexus came out I got a nexus one on tmobile. I have looked at my bill and I have more then quadrupled the amount of data i've used and honestly tmobile 3g is the same speed as sprint 3g.
[EVO 4G General] TheBiles:
Then why am I paying for my UNLIMITED data already? I'm not going to be going over the 5GB "unlimited" mark, so the bandwidth difference is negligible! Simply put, the only two feasible options are the distributed 4G costs or the "luxury tax."

Edit: And you are forgetting that cell phone plans aren't based off what it is "assumed" you will use. The USER makes the choice about how much they want to use (i.e. unlimited data, 1000 minutes, etc) and then pays for the appropriate plan. Just because a fancy new phone comes out doesn't mean Sprint would automatically assume that everyone would magically talk on it more and therefore raise their rates without their consent (which is what you are implying with your theory).
[EVO 4G General] p-slim:
well then in your eyes its a luxury tax because if you don't live in a 4g area you're still paying the $10. your unlimited data mark was for your current device. Now that they have new phones that will more then likely double or triple the amount of data then with any of their current phones, they are more then in their rights to renegoiate their unlimited mark on any new device.
[EVO 4G General] TheBiles:
There is no way in hell to use "double or triple" the data with the same network speeds when switching from another Android device. The only way to do this is with 4G--meaning Sprint would just be distributing the cost of 4G to its non-4G customers. Normal users are no where near their monthly 5GB limit, so Sprint has no reason to redefine "unlimited." See the explanation about how cell phone plans work in my previous edit.
[EVO 4G General] p-slim:
data plans are based on what the carrier thinks not the customer, but in some instances they do give the customer options. Are you making the choice for the amount of data you use for the hero, NO. Sprint said if you want the hero you have to have this unlimited data plan on your account, you can decide the amount of minutes.
[EVO 4G General] TheBiles:
And Sprint said that "unlimited" means 5GB/month, an amount that I have decided to use and remain within. Getting a new phone with the same network speeds does not change this.
[EVO 4G General] p-slim:
for some reason you keep leaving out the fact with that phone. You are acting like they don't have expectations with certain phones which is why they make plans around them. With this new line up of phones why is it hard to grasp some type of change. Whether you in particular may not use more data (even though i'm positive you will) sprint based the unlimited plan on those phones because they expected you not to go over that. this new phone changes everything and the possibility of going over is there plus all their expectations are increased.
[EVO 4G General] TheBiles:
Even if I do use more, I'm not going over my 5GB limit! If Sprint wants to charge me for going OVER my limit that I already agreed to then power to them! If they want to give me an option to pay for "expanded data" with a $10 monthly fee then power to them! But when they start placing mandatory fees on everyone with a specific phone for "expected" uses is where the line is drawn. Nothing will change the fact that my use with the EVO will still fall within the predetermined range, and nothing will make it right for Sprint to arbitrarily charge EVO owners for having a nicer phone.
[EVO 4G General] p-slim:
they called it unlimited because honestly to them, the majority of customers weren't going to go over those limits with their current devices, so calling it unlimited sounds better. Now they realize that hmm, with the speed that this device process data people are going to use their phones to do SO MUCH MORE that what they thought was unlimited truely may not be unlimited, not to mention they just know people who have this phone will use more data. if they know 75% of customers who own a hero will never go over even 1gb, then giving 5mbps not to mention they honestly don't expect you to do too much from the device its sounds better to just call it unlimited. Now you have a device like the evo come out and 75% of their customers they are assuming will use on average 3 gb of data they have to make up for this.
[EVO 4G General] TheBiles:
What you are saying makes absolutely no sense unless Sprint lied about their unlimited plan's data. I signed a contract that said "unlimited" meant 5GB a month. Sprint has NO RIGHT to assume that I'm going to use more of my unlimited data than I already do, and even if I did, it shouldn't matter as long as I'm under my contracted 5GB. As I said before, they can either fine me if I go over or give me an option to pay the extra $10 for premium data. Anything else is just wrong.
[EVO 4G General] MrDSL:
The sad thing is they can advertise UNLIMITED when it really isn't..

un·lim·it·ed

–adjective

1.not limited; unrestricted; unconfined: unlimited trade.

2.boundless; infinite; vast: the unlimited skies.

3.without any qualification or exception; unconditional.

4.5gigs of data according to lying cell companies.
[EVO 4G General] p-slim:
Well I'm tired of arguing with you. Get it or don't but you're paying $10 for evo. Peace out and continue your *****ing without me.
[EVO 4G General] johnsongrantr:
do you know anyone that has actually got charged for going over the 5 GB? I go over on occasion, some months I go WAAAAY over, my buddy on verizon has the same 5GB cap, he averages about 12GB and hasn't been charged 1c for going over.. EVER.

I think the 5gb cap is an imaginary line they can use to cut you off if you abuse the system and are causing problems for others who are attempting to gain normal access.

that's just my contribution to this discussion
[EVO 4G General] TheBiles:
Honestly, I think it is only there so they have some kind of line to cite if they want to cut you off for doing something crazy like making it your sole internet connecting and downloading 100GB a month. That way they have a legal fallback.
[General Accessories] kimjor:
I got this card two days ago to use with my HTC Desire.

Now my phone sees the card fine and transfers files no problem, but it is no where near class 10 speeds. (10mb/s minimum). So it tried to test it in a laptop with the SD adapter, but still only about 2-3mb/s which is the same as the class 2 microsd card that comes with the phone.

Did I get a faulty card? I guess if it was faulty it probably wouldn't work at all?
[General Accessories] amb9800:
2-3 Mbps? That's pretty bad-- have you tried testing on a different PC?

Maybe the card is defective (or particularly given it's a Kingston unit, perhaps this: http://www.techautos.com/2010/02/26/the-ugly-underside-of-memory-card-production/ ).
[General Accessories] superg81:
ive already sent one back and got a replacement.havent tested yet.call kingston,they were very helpful
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] Rosco911:
I have already added my main hotmail account, but when I try to add more, it keeps telling me it can`t connect to the outcoming server...

Ive tried changing the POP3 settings and still the same....

Am I doing something wrong?
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zeyn Karim:
hey people ive spent weeks trying to play a smooth video on my x1 so far everything i done had failed whether it was wmp or tcpmp or even coreplayer,read almost every post tried almost every converter and pretty still stuck seems as if my old tytn plays videos smoother so i can only hope coreplayer releases a new version soon! if anyone knows anything please post thanks
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lokatho:
What ROM do you use?

I am able to play the Bond trailer (.mp4) without problems, with WMP and TCPMP.

Link to TCPMP:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=634951
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zeyn Karim:
im using the pheonix rom build 56502 WWE. is this tcpmp any better than the latest coreplayer? because so far coreplayer played videos better than wmp and tcpmp although it was still laggy maybe it's my drivers but im using the omina driver and get a better benchmark than the rest with sktools 792 to be exact
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] azian_advanced:
i've been using the video encoder provided in the sticky and it has by far surpassed all other video encoders that i've used. it takes advantage of the hardware acceleration in the X1 but the only video app that uses it is WMP and the Media Panel.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Viper89:
I don't know bout you but using that encoder takes 6 to 7 hours and sometimes it freezes, I don't have the time and patience for that. @ Zeyn Karim I have a collection of video drivers that might maybe improve your performance. Not 100% sure it will but I guess it won't hurt to try;).
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zeyn Karim:
tried and failed with that converter lol even waited a whole night to encode only to be dissapointed the next morning.

anyway thanks guys for the support and drivers will run couple tests and let ya know the results hopefully this will solve my problem not sure why but my media player doesn't seem to run as good as everyone claims it does, i should remove the omina driver lets hope that's the problem
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zeyn Karim:
tried every driver and no luck! looks like i'll never be able to watch anything on my xperia! so i give up! stupid coreplayer! what's taking them so long! been reading up and looks like they rather work on the stupid UI instead of focus on HW support! i don't care if coreplayer looks crap! only thing i want is a smooth crisp video is that too much to ask! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oTToToTenTanz:
Yeah I'm kinda disappointed as well. I was watching a lot of videos on my old wm 5.0 smartphone but the Xperia fails. I activated "Raw FrameBuffer" and videos got smoother - still don't think thats what you are looking for...(only tried out fairly low quality movies...)
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Viper89:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=684106

This version of TCMP I get video playback in GDI mode very smooth I watched Shutter Island on it with no lag:D.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zeyn Karim:
Yeah,my old tytn may not have been the best phone in the world but atleast i could watch some of my favourite shows whenever i felt like.

thanks viper89 will test out the tcpmp,glad to see youve been watching something on your x1,can you please state which encoder you used and are you also using the omina driver?
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Viper89:
I actually didn't encode the video, I don't watch movies that much so I really don't bother with encoding and the one that is stickied takes ages to encode . The video drivers that are installed in my phone are:Chainfire-HD2-3D-Driver-Patch-2.0( not sure if this has any effect in are phones),Chainfire-TG01-D3DM( not sure if this any effect either lol),Driver_Ati d3d, SJ SamsungOmnia_Driver_D3D and optxperiabeta02( It makes the sound in the X1 louder but it also said that it changes the video driver to.)
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zeyn Karim:
Wow you installed all of them! what's your benchmark with sktools? and does the "optxperiabeta02" damage your speaker in any way? if not could you please post it thanks,Is it a noticable difference?
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Viper89:
My Sktool benchmark is: Integer 331, Floating Point 7.71, Draw Bitmaps 656. Also a important fact is it also depends on your rom Stock or none Stock and if it's 6.1 or 6.5 and if your running Sense 2.5 in your rom(which I am), so my stats most likely would be higher in a stock 6.1 rom. I've had my phone for 8 month and been using optxperiabeta02 for 7 month and no speaker damage:D. And it makes a hell of a noticeable difference lol.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zeyn Karim:
my benchmark is integer 331, floating point 7.47 ,ram access 1519 , draw bitmaps 800 , main write 11070 ,main read 17066 still have no idea why im having video problems.by the way im running 6.1 with manilla 2.5 sense
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Viper89:
Hmm draw bitmaps 800 nice:). It might because your on 6.1 oppose to my 6.5. Your still having videos problems playing videos in GDI mode in TCMP?
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zeyn Karim:
http://xdaforums.com/

showthread.php?t=684106 havnt got a chance to test yet but will try as soon as i get time did you try kinoma play? im interested to find out hows the playback. damn coreplayer if only they would support our HW id would be so awesome!
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] altae:
Guys there is really a simple answer to this thread: There is only one solution for decent video playback on Xperia X1. Convert your movies to mp4 (h264 avc codec, max. resolution 800 * 480, bitrate 600 kbps) and play them in WMP or Media Xperience Panel (I prefer the latter). You can either use the converter provided by xda (projection) or any other software that supports this codec. There might be some differences in duration of a convertion and it is definitely dependant on your computer's specs (processor) but generally converting videos is a time consuming task and 6 - 7 hours isn't really inappropriate for entire movies (2-3 hours). Everything else won't work. Coreplayer, Pocketplayer, Kinoma etc. do not support hw acceleration and thus 480 * 320 is the maximum resolution that can be played back using those players. If you want high quality movies (what is definitely possible on the Xperia X1) you will have to face convertion to the right format. There aren't any drivers that do miracles and there aren't any insider tips. Only convertion will do the trick.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oTToToTenTanz:
thank you altae for those bad/good news :D
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Xenithflare:
Maybe I'm missing something. I've never had any problems playing videos or movies on my X1. Just rewatched Princess Blade on it the other day, in fact.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] altae:
The truth can sometimes be hard :-) But let's stay serious: It's a pity that WMP or Media Xperience Panel do not support more codecs especially the very widely used xvid/dvix codecs.

But the positive news are: It's definitely possible to play high quality movies as long as they are in the right format. And for all the short videos you would like to show a friend you have always the possibility to play divx/xvid movies in 480 * 320 which isn't that bad for this purpose.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zeyn Karim:
thanks guys! but ive through this! somethings up with my media player! it still doesnt play smooth no matter what i tried! thats the whole issue why i created this thread! i dont mind playing through my videos through wmp i acutually wouldnt mind it at all it's just my wmp lags badly! And i have no idea why
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] altae:
Maybe your rom is the problem? Have you tried flashing another one, preferably a stock one? I use a 6.1 stock rom and movies are played perfectly.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zeyn Karim:
yeah i think your right! i was kind of hoping it wasnt my rom because i really do like my rom it's quite stable and fast not to mention looks good! ag guess i'll either have flash a new rom or wait till coreplayer 2 comes out! so far ive tried everything i could find! from drivers to convertors to players seems like it can only be my rom!
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] altae:
I would try another rom. Converted to the appropriate format the Xperia X1 is definitely able to play back high quality movies. And from what I've heard so far I highly doubt that Coreplayer (no matter what version) will ever be able to use the X1's hardware acceleration. Only WMP and Media Experience Panel do and sadly they are restricted to the h264 avc (mp4) format (yes they play 3gp and wmv too but not nearly as well as h264 avc).
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zeyn Karim:
Ok ive also heard about coreplayer having problems getting the api an so on, i'll begin flashing a new rom as soon as i get back online with internet damn south africa and thier internet lol. also im still using my phone to post in these threads but i'll try and post a sample video for you guys to test later on and see if it plays smooth or not.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] altae:
Do that. You will be stunned how great watching movies on your X1 actually can be. Initially I was too. And by using the converter from XDA (user projection) you can avoid testing different settings before you get decent results. I switched to another one (avs converter) because it provides more options to adapt the movies (framerate, subtitles...) but it took me a while to find out the best settings.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] enigma1nz:
I have no problems playing videos at all. Converted to 3GP to save space with Fox, takes about 15 min for a 700Mb divx. Plays fine on everything.