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[Nexus One Themes and Apps] tr.slate:
Sorry...gonna bump rather than repost due to all the froyo craziness over the weekend.

Anyone interested?
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] WebghostDK:
Hey.

Maybe i am interesting.

I will probably need a designer to make the Pro version of my app look nice

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[Nexus One Themes and Apps] tomfreay:
Hi, I'd be interested, got a couple of ideas in the pipeline and am open to suggestions!

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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mancukya:
http://code.google.com/p/psptube/

Nobody is interested in bringing PSPTube on windows mobile ?

For source code

http://code.google.com/p/psptube/source/checkout

Sory for my english.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Mr_stickz:
why would you want that? the youtube client from htc is almost perfect, psptube is bugged and doesn't even support HQ videos
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] frmariam:
HTC YouTube is not that great (and only for YouTube). I've personally grown to hate HTC and it's apps. People have been spending so much time porting components from different devices/ROMs that real development has stopped for many great apps (I miss HS++ most...). For this reason I refuse using anything from HTC (also since I have a Samsung phone it feels morally wrong).

WVD works in a similar way to PSPTube (browses the online videos and parses the links to an external player). But PSPTube has the advantage of flexibility since anyone why the know-how can add and update website support even without the app sources... This was something I suggested many times to JM81 (but his huge hiatus in the forum makes me believe he left the scene).

Makku12 was going on a similar direction with Tube8 viewer but there hasn't been many news lately either...

Anyway I fear this thread will either be moved/closed or get buried by other threads (just wanted to share my 2 cents before that happened)... Utterly it's the fate of almost every request thread since most unfortunately there aren't many willing skilled devs in the platform anymore (the few ones left are generally already engaged in some project).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mancukya:
This project may be wearing a window 6 and later for the win mobile 7 and even for Android.
[General Questions and Answers] Hearnz:
Hello.

I'am currently looking for an application for my android phone that lets me download the mp3 directly of the videos on youtube. I'am well aware that there are tons of youtube rippers out there for android, but they all seem to only support video ripping. It seems odd to me that there are no such software, because it's so obviously pratical for people that just want the mp3's of the music videos and dont want to waste space on the video itself.

I know i get a standard audio ripper and rip the mp3 of my downloaded videos, but i would like to save that step and just get the mp3 directly.

Optimaly iam looking for a program that lets me choose wether i want to rip video or audio from youtube.

Thx in advance

//Hearnz
[Desire General] Fatriff:
Hey,

Today I had the fortune of pulling my phone out infront of a lifelong apple devotee, he went crazy.. he 1st said OMG!! is that the desire! I want that phone soooo bad, can I have a look please.

Before this phone came along he always claimed that nothing was better than the iphone even though I said ofcourse there is.. but now it seems he can't resist what the desire has to offer.. I'm pretty darn sure anybody who uses the iphone would water at the mouth when they get a look at what the desire can do..

Only thing is, I'm not too keen on how the desire looks, I love how the EVO looks and cannot wait to get my hands on one.
[Desire General] Phil750123:
Yer good feeling, same with my dad, had the iphone since it came out, every year he upgrades, seen my phone and was like oo i want it, but hes an idiot and paid £60 for tom tom, then £100 for a gps /talk enchancer thing for the car, so he wants keep with iphone so he doesnt waste £160. LOSER!
[Desire General] dpk:
Haha, exactly same situation with my mate who has a 3GS - Even went as far as to say mine was better! Get in :D
[Desire General] Fatriff:
I know this is the EVO and not the desire in the desire thread (just posted it as I said before I prefer how the evo looks over the desire).. but what on earth is that dull looking thing next to it?
[Desire General] 554321:
now now people.. we all know that they just want to justify their purchase and make themselves feel better having invested so much in a phone that is obviously inferior in performance. it is a psychological condition in fact.

We don't need to be the same.
[Desire General] Balos:
I would go for the Iphone any time if there wasn't this price difference and EVO is way to big for me.

I have the Desire now. Well its ok but the speakers and microfone suck so bad, that its not funny at all.
[Desire General] ruleamsterdam:
Really? The Desire beats the Iphone in pretty much every aspect, it's like you'd choose a Lada over a Mercedes (an anolgy often used by Apple users ;)
[Desire General] boge:
+1 for speaker, and also for real multitouch, 3d hardware acc (my son prefer to play 3d game in my wife's iphone3gs than in desire because of that, which is good for me.... :D), and it seems the graphic in some applications looks better in iphone, i.e. soundhound and layar looks better in iphone than desire.

other than those things.. i prefer desire. hopefully froyo will be available soon for us.
[Desire General] foxmeister:
The Desire has 3D hardware acceleration! The issue with games is that most of them are interpreted Java applications, and that most do not download supplementary data to the SD card which so they have to be small.

The gaming situation on the Desire will get better soon, because:

a) The latest version of the NDK supports OpenGL ES 2.0. This means that the important parts of the game can be coded up as native code.

b) The JIT in Froyo will speed up the non-native parts of the game.

c) The ability to official install apps to SD card will allow games developers to write games without requiring supplementary, separate, downloads to SD card.

I rather expect a gaming explosion on Android once Froyo becomes mainstream.

Regards,

Dave
[Desire General] panos123:
It really depends what they use their iPhone for. Not all of them are blind fanboys.

They might like to listen to music on the way to work or use speakerphone regularly. Perhaps they don't like checking their battery level constantly, and where that "cool" app I been using to help me sleep better. Heck! They might even prefer the stability of a closed system (heathens!). And let's be honest, if we weren't all sick of seeing it millions of times in the street, the iphone looks better.
[Desire General] -A-P-M-:
I agree with that. I think both Android (HTC) and Apple are leaders and you can't make a mistake with any of them. What I like on iPhone is if you buy it when it comes to shops, you know you will have 1 year latest phone and you know that phone will recieve updates for longer time period than you will have it (3 years).

Currently I like Desire more than 3GS. We will see what will offer 4G. But I know something - next time I will buy android phone, it will be google branded, because it will recieve updates sooner.
[Desire General] sbcdk:
If you think the iPhone can't do anything, it's a clear indication you've never owned one. Yes, it has to be hacked, but so does Android in most countries, since Google otherwise won't let us get the good software.

I have a HTC Desire and an iPhone 3GS 32GB, both hacked of course. Amongst other things, I can use my iPhone as music player with an IrDA remote (using universal cradle), I can stream video podcasts to the TV and use it as a wifi router no problems at all. No doubt the Desire will be able to do some nice stuff in the future too, but it's simply wrong to think it's way better than the iPhone.
[Desire General] samac92:
I'm glad there's sensible discussion in this thread and not blind fanboy talk.

The hardware of the desire beats the iPhone (apart from the multitouchness), but that's expected seeing as the 3GS is almost a year old. But in quality of software, I have to say the iphone wins hands down. The keyboard, music player and browser are far better on the iPhone, and the sad thing is that they have been unchanged since the iphone came out in 2007, yet no other phone is as good.

And the app store is better than the android market, more apps and of far higher quality. (Compare the facebook app on both phones)

But still the price difference isn't worth it tbh
[Desire General] pina_:
I think they both acutally can do the same. It's more about the presentation of things: f.e. the homescreens are much better on android. But Iphone OS is much more mature compared to Android. I think from Android 2.3, we can talk of a grown up android-OS and can compete it with iphone OS.

Iphone OS is still more efficient. We need a 1ghz processor to handle the 3D games. The iphone has got only around 500mhz (or less) to be able to pull out nice games.

The biggest problems imo about the iphone OS is that everything has to be running as seperate apps. On the desire, many things are connected to each other, like facebook and twitter. Sending mails, copy/pasting, sharing etc...
[Desire General] samac92:
Things aren't as separate on the iPhone as you make out, in fact the iPhone does some things like copy and paste a lot better. On the iPhone you can copy any text from any app (third party or stock) and paste in in any text field in any app (third party or stock).

On android I cant even copy text out of an email!

and you get some nice things on the iPhone like the ability to share videos by youtube, mms, email etc.

But yeah your point about facebook and twitter and stuff being quite separate is true, but there are rumours this stuff is gonna be put in OS4.
[Desire General] rovex:
Im sorry but the iPhone browser better than the Desire browser?? On what planet exactly?? I hate mobile sites (many of which are iPhone optimised, or in other words.. lame). For desktop sites the Desire browser destroys the iPhone browser.

The iPhone screen is pathetic. Small, dull and painfully low res.

The iPhone itself is terribly old fashioned looking now. There is nothing stylish about it. It just looks plain old and when i first saw one i was surprised how large it actually seemed. It seems larger than a touch HD despite being almost the same size and even the HD2 seems nicer proportioned despite being much bigger. The problem is the screen which is lost in the frame because its so small.

OK there are some areas that the iphone wins, but they are nothing like numerous enough to make up for its extreme shortcomings.
[Desire General] samac92:
I think you'll find the unanimous verdict of almost every tech site is that the iPhone has the best web browser available on a mobile device.

As for the screen, yes the desire is far better (apart from the lack of true multitouch and the way over saturated colours) but I'm talking about the browser.

And the iPhone almost always displays the full website, if it doesn't then there will be a link to take you to the main website.

And there are good things about iPhone specific websites, for example almost all internet video (eg BBC iPlayer website) is viewable on the iPhone as websites have converted their videos to iPhone friendly formats. Us android users won't be able to view these videos until flash finally makes its way to our handsets, and the performance in terms of battery life (adobe themselves quote 3 hours!) and frame rate will be terrible compared to the iPhone specific versions that you can access on an iPhone.

But yeah I agree with you on the look of the iPhone, the screen does look out of proportion in my opinion.
[Desire General] Inquitus:
I have a desire, my wife has a 3GS.

I would take the Desire browser over the iPhone, its faster by a good distance imo.

Social Networking, Messaging, IM I would take the desire over the iPhone.

I am in Ireland so iPhone wins the appstore contest hands down, as we have no andorid paid apps here. (Yes theres ways round it, but lets compare stock to stock)

The one area the iPhone absolutely anihilates the Desire is media playback, the Desire is frankly **** at video compared to the iPhone and laggs behind on music playback too. This is criminal given the Desire has the hardware to support multiformat playback of up to 720p video.

If you use your phone as a phone, for mobile web, for social networking etc, the Desire wins hands down.

If you want an all in one device and watch a couple of episodes of TV a day on the commute to work, then the iPhone is for you.

I use my desire for the former, and have an iPod touch for when I am travelling etc. and wish to enjoy music, TV shows and movies.
[Desire General] samac92:
Yeh I agree, I was hoping my desire would replace my iPod touch fully, but it struggles too. I could stream every video and every song from my computer to my iPod in any format as there are various apps on the app store that do this, but there is not a single app on android that can do it. I could also watch live TV from tvcatchup.com, again something not possible on android.
[Desire General] craigcrawford1988:
You're joking right? You go by what a "tech" site says? The majority of them are bought out by apple to promote their product.

iPhone = Slower, "checkerboard" scrolling, no flash, slow javascript.

Desire = Fast, no "checkerboard", flash, fast javascript.

Those sites where you say they have specifically made the video for iPhones... Well, that's because iPhone has been out longer - did you miss that? Did you miss the fact that Android can play h264 just like iPhone which is what those "optimised for iPhone" videos use?

You say "oversaturated" as if it is a technical fault, do you view the world in black and white? No. The majority of those reviews or pictures you've seen have had the brightness up full which, because it's an AMOLED screen, will make the colours brighter and more vibrant and not only increase brightness...
[Desire General] sbcdk:
Small, dull?

Sorry about the partly distorted image. It was taken using a cheap Sony DSC-W150.

Both displays have been set at full intensity. This is one single picture, not two merged together. Other than the size and flipping it 90 degrees, it haven't been modified in any way, shape or form.

Yes, there's a difference in resolution and the Desire uses the real estate of the screen much better. But do you really think the lower screen, that of the iPhone, is small and dull, compared to the upper Desire screen?
[Desire General] foxmeister:
That is because tvcatchup.com has iPhone/iPod specific streams, not because the iPhone/iPod is particularly well endowed with supported formats!

Regards,

Dave
[Desire General] craigcrawford1988:
Yes, it is small and dull. Look at the way the Desire fits the words "touch HD" onto the 2nd line and the iPhone has to move it to the 3rd line. The colours and the contrast are also ugly. Look at the font smoothing...
[Desire General] sbcdk:
Sorry, but that sounds like fanboy talk to me and I am not going there. The photo of the realities are now there for people to judge by themselves.
[Desire General] samac92:
I know, I didn't say that was the reason. I'm saying thats an advantage of the iPhone, you don't see any websites with android specific streams do you?

Having flash should mostly solve this, but watching video on an iPhone from an iPhone specific stream will be better than watching on flash on android (though there should theoretically be more choice of what to watch on android)
[Desire General] craigcrawford1988:
Fine. Here is a picture I taken with my Milestone. Sorry for the poor picture quality.

http://craigcrawford.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/milestone/2010-05-22_17-47-08_864_Liverpool.jpg

Notice how the screen is not dull? Also, that is automatic brightness :).
[Desire General] samac92:
It's hardly small, 3.5 inches compared to 3.7, and in fact the iPhone screen is wider in portrait than the Desire making it more useful in portrait, especially when typing.

And yes it may be dull, but the iPhone is almost a year old and the new one is rumoured to have a screen with double resolution (higher than the desire) and a better display (maybe IPS?).

And the Desire screen isn't great, colours are way over saturated and as its a pentile display it's no way as sharp as it should be. straight lines look jagged if you look closely.

and your point about it moving text onto the next line is pointless, if you zoom in on the desire the text reflows all over the place. on the iPhone it's a constant size so you don't have to fiddle about with zooming in and it doesn't need to reflow.

btw don't think I'm an apple fanboy, I'm clearly not as I own a desire not an iPhone, I just hate to see people bashing another product just because they don't know what they are talking about.
[Desire General] craigcrawford1988:
Right and you obviously know everything about what you're taking about?

The screen size in inches is not the full "display", the actual resolution plays an extremely important part, so yes, the iPhone is a small screen. Let's put them into perspective:

iPhone: 3.5", 480x320, 164.83 ppi

Desire: 3.7", 800x480, 252.15 ppi

That's nearly 100 more pixels per inch... Maybe you hadn't noticed but the Desire is wider in portrait, look at the resolution.

Also, do people actually want a screen bigger in portrait nowadays? Whatever happened to widescreen...

Yes... an IPS panel... Maybe we can have an iPhone the thickness of the Dell IPS monitors

The reason the Desire changes the page layout is because it's a FEATURE. Christ, watch the videos, they did that so you didn't have to scroll around like a loonatic reading.
[Desire General] samac92:
I know the Desire has a higher resolution, but like I said the iPhone is almost a year old and the new one is coming out with a new display.

And the iPad has an IPS display, I would hardly call that thick.

Yeah and widescreen is great for watching videos, but for some other things (such as typing!) a wider screen in portrait is more important.

And I know that's a feature! I do own a Desire so I don't need to "watch the videos"
[Desire General] craigcrawford1988:
Ah, I see it does have an IPS display.

However, it's specs are pretty pathetic:

9.7-inch (diagonal) LED-backlit glossy widescreen Multi-Touch display with IPS technology

1024-by-768-pixel resolution at 132 pixels per inch (ppi)

132 ppi for a 9.7 inch? Why such a low resolution? They could have easily made the resolution higher (especially for IPS) and scaled everything to fit.
[Desire General] jrwaltb:
Mp

yea but you can't go by tech sites when it comes to the iPhone. All them lost all credibility because of the blatant slant they put on every iPhone article. Its more of apples bs which people finally recognize. Apple also does not allow " jailbreaking" and at anytime can make your phone unusable if its rooted.
[Desire General] boge:
lol... it's funny to read how people defend their preferences...

I just read this article: Sayonara, iPhone: Why I'm Switching to Android, and read how apple fan boys try to defend their iPhone over android...

and here, I read how android 'fan boy' cannot see objectively that iPhone is not 'that bad', and in some parts 1 year old iPhone3GS is still better than our beloved Desire.

I choose Desire over iPhone3GS not because Desire is a perfect phone, but for me, at the moment Desire is the perfect choice.
[Desire General] samac92:
So because some tech sites review the iPhone favourably that makes them biased?

You know, the people that work for these sites get to try all manner of different phones, so if they appear to like one phone more than the others I think it's a good indication that that is the better phone, not that they are biased. (why would they be biased? please explain, it's not like they work for apple)

Can you please explain your point about Jailbreaking? Jailbreaking is an easy one click method on the iPhone, and it is pretty much impossible to brick an iPhone (I've never once heard of it occuring).

Apple will never make your phone unusable, thats bs (where did you hear that??). They will never know if you JB, you just click restore in iTunes and it un jailbreaks your phone.
[Desire General] Inquitus:
1024 by 768 is plenty good enough resolution on a 9.7" display, having 1080p on that would simply be pointless overkill.

The ipod touch / iphone might have half the resolution of my desire, and less ppi, but it displays movies far better, better blacks, less banding, and altogether a far better experience.

Also my iPod touch screen might be smaller on the diagonal, but it actually has a bigger area, and tbh that size diff makes using multitouch gestures a bit easier. I love my desire, and I prefer it to iPhone for my needs, I am happy carrying an iPod touch and my phone, one for phone and mobile web, and the other for music and video, but the desire, due to android limitations and the lack of a decent multiformat player, is crap for watching movies or TV series.
[Desire General] shaundalglish:
lol what? There are still people who think the iPhone is better?

Seriously?

You guys have no clue.
[Desire General] samac92:
I would of thought that resolution was pretty good on that size screen as your not going to be holding it close to your face. But theres not really anything on the market you can compare it to I guess.

I'm not sure what you mean by this, I think the Desire looks great when watching stuff, the only problem is getting stuff to play sometimes. (I thought I'd be able to play all my current MP4 movies, turns out most of them won't play at all) But if I re encode them as MP4 again they work fine, and if you download mvideoplayer (because the default movie player doesn't remember where you left off!) then it makes a pretty good movie watching device.

What do you mean by better blacks on the iPhone? the Desire display has an incredible contrast ratio. I have noticed however that in dark scenes the movie seems to turn a weird purple colour, is this what you mean?
[Desire General] foxmeister:
Better blacks?

Are you really sure about that, because it is absolutely impossible for a backlit LCD display to display a "better black" than an AMOLED display because an AMOLED display true black whereas a backlit LCD display cannot.

Regards,

Dave
[Desire General] samac92:
I don't think anyone is saying that, or we wouldn't own Desires would we..

But the iPhone does some things far better than Android, and vice versa. It really depends on your needs/what you appreciate.
[Desire General] boge:
i believe everyone who has posted in here has desire instead of iphone. but seriously.. for some aspects, iphone is still better... for me, there are 2 things, the speaker, and real multitouch in iphone are better than desire.
[Desire General] shaundalglish:
The Desire's screen has of course a higher contrast, with black being 100% black vs. the iPhone's screen that can not display real black (it's always slightly blue).

And of course the iPhone is much more limited in terms of video formats.

I'm sorry for Inquitus, but he's talking utter nonsense. He has no clue, sorry.
[Desire General] Inquitus:
The screen on my desire is better, the resolution is higher, its AMOLED not LCD. The desires hardware is better. Where the issue lies is that the movieplayers are poor, and don't use the available tools as well as the iPhone. The guys at coreplayer have said the SDK/NDK for Android is a joke in so far as media goes. I have no doubt the desire would put the iPhone in the shade for media, if someone was able to write a multiformat mediaplayer that harnessed the available hardware.

I find some MP4s have sync issues on my desire, whereas they play fine on my PC and my iPod touch, I find banding and strange purple hue blacks on my desire. I have stopped using it for video, I simply bring my ipod touch on the commute to work each day and catch up on my downloaded TV using that.