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[XPERIA X10 Android Development] pope4711:
.. i too :mad:

i will sell my x10 on ebay
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Vilam:
What the hell ! You bought the x10 just for root ?

I'm new in android and I now know that root is a really good think, but like for my iTouch, I can wait some moonth to get it unleashed...

And the ps3 is now open if I'm right...
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Bikram:
Yep I did. And if I am not wrong there are way too many others who did too.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] nosidefcp:
Chill out.bin4ry said yestr that security is bypassed. Things dont appear from nothing.whats the the point of having multiple posts in dev topic?we only want the post that will say “x10" rooted“.of corse will get rooted
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] hoss_n2:
no android without root ,
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Vilam:
I understant, and I'm just waiting, I won't sell it, I'll just wait^^
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] HunteronX:
That's good to hear - people just need to have some patience.

When the phone is rooted AND allows unsigned images to be flashed, we can create our own updated rom.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Muo:
I will be purchasing the X10 immediately after it is rooted. If it is not, I will wait some time.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] public.reg:
Yes, I believe that the root is not required for normal use Android phones, but especially in the X10 root is the only way to get the latest firmware version.

X10 is a good phone, but I do not understand why when all other phones comes with the latest version of Android, X10 comes with version 1.6 and absurdly hard root protection.

Thanks guys for good work on the root and hope that it will soon. I do not want to wait months to maybe Sony release version 2.1 (not 2.2!).
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Frolex:
Re: X10 Rooting General Inquiries; Non-Development Discussion

Question: say we do get root, will we be able to get software that is equal to the software we will eventually get from se? Also, if we use software that is like stock sense, will it be the exact same thing as say the stock sense for desire? Thx

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[XPERIA X10 Android Development] biktor_gj:
Re: X10 Rooting General Inquiries; Non-Development Discussion

Nope, we will get it better, for a simple reason: normally, developers want their phones to be as good as they can be, and as fast as the hardware is capable of. And they don't depend on release dates. Everything takes time though, and we would face a problem on the case of using Sense, the fact that this phone doesn't have hardware keys for call/hangup, and that's usually hardcoded...

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[XPERIA X10 Android Development] lifeflayer:
the phone won't run any newer firmwares perfectly until SE releases their drivers for the specific version. you are either stuck doing it like the old HTC sapphire guys which do take forever to reverse engineer everything or wait for SE to officially release the said version then apply all the modifications to it.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] icet925:
Quick question. Does rooting unlock the phone?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] HunteronX:
No, it doesn't.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Legit Scammer:
Just got my X10, can't wait for root :)

It has gotten laggy though, which is unfortunate,but still an amazing phone.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] asmanthebell:
Confused a Little

Ok on a nooby android note i though it was just Linux revamped like apples OS, just with a different GUI, Rooting Linux on other device, laptops, mac's is simple just get into terminal and by typing a series of set commands you elevate to root or super root user is that just not the same case or has android/Sony Ericsson in some way taken out the terminal from linux (highly doubtable) s its core functionality, would developing a terminal application and using an App like ROM manager be able to root the Phone and upload to file on SD Card. I am not sure if this already been achieved just a thought i have.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] lqbweb:
the only core functionality are system calls
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] asmanthebell:
FAIL

Thats pretty Lame then EPIC FAIL!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] cashaw:
Hmm, you can download many terminal applications from the market place and get to an Android terminal. The only problem after you type the command 'su root' (permission denied) is how to elevate to root without knowing the root password ?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] dan-htc-touch:
permission denied because the su binary does not exsist on the device, you would need root to place the su binary in the system
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Vilam:
If you or anybody else know in witch file or witch direcory is the password, let me know :)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] lqbweb:
/etc/shadow ?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Pissed_Squirrel:
Is that file/folder hidden?

I can't find /etc/shadow on my phone
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] pope4711:
@dan-htc-touch

sudo?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] carinoxx:
Idea... Why not try to load Android from SD like Haret on Winmo, and then patch internal memory?

Sorry about my bad english...
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] ballubas:
haret is for booting linux through windows mobile!! am i right??
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] thefunkaygibbon:
Already discussed here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=680263
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] leobg:
This X10 root situation reminds me of the original Xbox and Xbox 360.

It was piece of cake to root original xbox and turned out to be big pain in the rear to do it on the 360. When MS saw what a mistake they made underestimating security in original xbox, they have overdone themselves with 360. Ironically, isn't 360 hacked by jtag now?

Jeez, let me be more optimistic! Keep the gread work guys. I wish I was capable to help somehow in the development
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] SuperUserMovado:
Resetting NCK codes

I have tried more than 5 times to use the wrong Nck code to unlock my x10 and now I cannot try anymore times. So basically the phone is hard locked. Does anyone know if flashing a decrypted rom will reset the NCK lock so that I will have another chance to input the correct codes I got from unlocking.com. Since rooting might take a bit longer, I wanted to know if there was a way to reset the NCK lock.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Greenarcher707:
oh boy, when this thing does get root access it will be a huge victory for the android community. anytime now...
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] icet925:
Re: X10 Rooting General Inquiries; Non-Development Discussion

I've been waiting all my life for this to be rooted. Just unlocked my phone too so the possibilities are endless.

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[XPERIA X10 Android Development] korytr:
I wouldn't buy a X10 to a newborn. And repeating the immense advance of a device being rooted won't get us further :)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] bcool15:
hmm...looks like summary stopped updating any further now?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] zerophrame:
There've been no significant updates; thus, no main page updates.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] bloke:
Who did you use to unlock your phone?

Bloke
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] unknown13x:
From what I heard recently, the SE team just got 2.1 rolled out internally. Still buggy, but it already started :p He said that it seems like a totally different device....dunno what that means....
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] icet925:
Re: X10 Rooting General Inquiries; Non-Development Discussion

@Bloke I unlocked it at unlocking.com. i ordered it at night and received it the next morning.

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[XPERIA X10 Android Development] bloke:
I think you are one of the lucky few... I havent got it yet, I cancelled and have been refunded. ALthought the guy posting on here says I can still have the key as its come through now., ive not had the key though...

Bloke
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] synlar:
Hey guys, I have a question about root.

Once root becomes available and I root my X10, will I be able to use OTA updates? Say if the phone gets rooted tomorrow (i wish!) and someone releases an android 2.1 for the phone, and i install it, will I be able to update to the 2.1 that sony's making via that 'check for update' button once the update's out?

In the case someone releases a stock android 2.2, and I install it on my phone, will this automatically get updated on the phone through google?

Thanks!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] sergiu84:
No idea, but I will quite confidently say that if you won't be able to do it OTA, there'll definitely be an easy enough way of doing it as long as you have a PC (+Internet) and a USB cable.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] ssjowowo:
Probably not OTA updates since the rooted rom will not be based on SE's version. However you will be able to flash it again through SEUS on your PC, although you will loose root. Unless the official rom from SE gets rooted, in that case you just flash that rooted rom on your phone. And all of that depends on whether a way is found to flash unsigned roms
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] nihonjintaylor:
Apparently Japan just released an update for their Xperia. Would updating cause any problems when trying to root I wonder ^^;;
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] dan-htc-touch:
that screenshot shows android 1.6??? what was updated?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] ttxdragon:
baseband from 1.0.09 to 1.0.24

build version from R1EA018 to R1EA025
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Pissed_Squirrel:
That can't be new because I have baseband 1.0.21 and build version R1FB001
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] andy8271:
yea but japan has a newer one than that now
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] brunswick000:
Ok maybe this has been asked and im sorry if it has. Although im catching on fast im still a noob so bare with me here. If we, excuse me, if the powers that be here achieve root on our X10's running android 1.6 and then SE releases the 2.1 upgrade, will we still have root? Or, will the 2.1 version need to be rooted as well? If so, and I hope I don't get flamed for this, why don't we just wait for 2.1?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] feis:
Why dont we just wait 6months you mean ? Yeah right... Have a nice time doing that.

And if devs achieve root now, theres no need to go back to sony's official updates, the 2.1 or even newer will be ported easily
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] hoss_n2:
you are totally right but as you said (IF) ,i don't see any development announced on the rooting thread
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] biktor_gj:
Theres nothing said there becase

1) the thread is full of crap, so some of us are contacting through email only to avoid looking through dozens of pges for a useful post

2) sony used more time to lock things down than making a usable keyboard so this is quite difficult.

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[XPERIA X10 Android Development] hoss_n2:
is there any progress going on there
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] brunswick000:
Thats all I was asking.....thanks.....I think. But good news on 2.1 WHEN it comes.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] SuperUserMovado:
Unlocking the x10

does anyone know what app checks for the correct sim card when the x10 boots. I was hoping that when the phone gets rooted we can remove this application so we can unlock or phones without the need for a code.

Is it possible or is this sim check application built into the bootloader somehow????
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] HunteronX:
There's an application (widget) on the market called 'wosim' that allows this - try it.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] SuperUserMovado:
Thanks this looks very similar to "Airsim" a japanese application that allows you to boot a locked x10 *without a simcard. Airsim worked for me once but since then it stopped working. I will try Wosim.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] MarylandCookie:
Is there any update Developers??

Is LordPhoenixSalvation sleeping with the fishes because se have knocked his front door down?? lol... its been like 4 days since he caused a stir.

Anything from Bin4ry, Biktor, Goroh etc?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] irkkso:
SE has an exellent security!

SE has an exellent security!

I dont meen sofware.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] jimsey:
lordpheonix has been on the forums( check his last activity) but it's reasonable that some of the devs have been a bit miffed at some of the junk posts over the last few days making demands...

hopefully people are still working on root and trying a few different tactics - the Laser (setool) seems to think it's impossible using his traditional exploits as does Paul( modaco),

what we really need is inside help?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] :
LordPhoenixSalvation it's a liar with a very pink nick... simple like a switch mechanism. He can do what he want.. but we don't need arrogants here...
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Fuzalert2k:
Who was the other person that claimed root? Why do people claim something whileeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee they don't really have it. Siggh It gets people too excited over nothing.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] :
Jerpelea, but he really root the phone, the problem is that he has a dev phone and his method is not suitable for production phones.. by the way he didn't disappear after the claim...
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] jerpelea:
i did not dissapear and i am triing to get root with our team for you

till now almost all dors are closed by SE, we will try JTAG and see
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] andylhchen:
:confused:does JTAG mean we need to hard-mod the phone to hack?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] carinoxx:
Jerpelea we know, and i give thanks to you and all devs... Great work without results for now... but i know you and all devs will do it...
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] :
I wrote the same :)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] irkkso:
Good luck!

Best regards to jerpelea!

Help us to make from this an expensive toy the full powered device.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] icet925:
Best Regards,

But you gotta give SE developers credit for locking down the phone so well.

They are probably one of the best programmers out there and they are working for Sony!!!!

Just look at the PS3, its still haven't been cracked yet.

The root for the x10 might actually take some time or won't even be here.

So STOP hassling the devs here, theres no point of being all negative because it ain't helping.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Chewitt:
Could one of the Devs please look at my idea found http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6862201&postcount=514 and see if it could be of any use?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] rosco16:
X8 initially has 1.6
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] ddewbofh:
Not to mention that it's being release in Q3 2010 which is when the update is scheduled. So odds are it'll have 2.1 but unfortunatly it won't make a difference for us. :)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] rosco16:
From :

http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/

"XperiaTM X8 will either launch on Android 1.6 with a subsequent upgrade to Android 2.1 a few weeks later or will launch on Android 2.1. The final decision will be taken on a market-by-market basis."
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] ddewbofh:
Yeah, but from a business standpoint it makes more sense to send it out with 2.1 as opposed to updating it just after release. Less work for everyone involved in retail and support.

And the probable speedboost, coming from 2.1, would be a great marketing tool. "The new X8, running Android 2.1" etc.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Chewitt:
@ rosco16 If the full other post had been read that i put up it already had a reply to someone who posted that it will come out with 1.6 and a possible update to 2.1 a week or so later.

@ ddewbofh Thanks for the constructive post its good to get someone who is not looking for the negatives in everything.

So now PLEASE can someone access to Emma Look and see if the 2.1 Dev firmware is on there, If they are even thinking of sending the phone out with 2.1 then there will be 2.1 firmware already done for it, remember how long it takes for a phone to go from the production line to the distributors and to the stores, that would mean the firmware would be getting finalised in the next month or so.

Yes i am not a Developer but i have worked in the telecoms industry now for 5 years and i know how a handset gets to market.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] hoss_n2:
post it at the development section to be seen in a better way
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Chewitt:
I have its in the Bounty Thread and also on the Rom and Dev Thread if you would have looked, Thanks for the Advice though Surprised ure still posting here after your roasting in the Dev thread.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] hoss_n2:
you are wellcome ,I really want to help but there is some misunderstanding ,that i will try to fix soon .:) good luck
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] charmz2k2:
Hi Chaps,

So just a quick question, kind of off topic, but not, so I thought I'd post it here...

I've found that the camera on my phone isn't too amazing - kind of slow and can get blurry images..

I put it down to the fact that the software was slowing it down (I hope I'm right? I had the desire initially, and found that the camera quality wass much clearer and faster)

Now that the phone is rooted, would it have an effect on the quality of images taken?

obviously we (and by we, I mean the developers, thank you thank you guys!!!!) will be making roms etc to speed the system up, so will the camera quality get better?

Sorry if this is misplaced, but it is kind of general rooting discussion...
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] proyaz:
Ya I hope the quality of pictures can be increased by a software upgrade bcoz HD vid rec is being achieved by a soft upgrade itself (the hardware should be compatible in the first place). And the developers just rock. You guys are simply awesome. Had been waiting for the root for sooo long. :D
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] umirza85:
When we are able to make custom roms, does this mean that we will be able to take SE's camera app and put it in a 2.1 or 2.2 rom?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] proyaz:
I hope so .. .. !!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Vilam:
Will we be able to record in 720p ?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] ddewbofh:
The phrase "HD Video recording" would seem to imply that. :)

Though not sure on whether the SE camera app supports it.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] snoopXR6:
There were some posts around claim that 720p/HD video capture will be packaged in the next update (apparently coming the end of the year). Not sure on the accuracy of this info though
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] proyaz:
X10 will get the HD video rec update in Q3 by SE ..

http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2010/06/16/x8-announcement-and-xperia-updates/
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] snoopXR6:
Thanks for clearing that up :)

Was going to look for the post but got distracted by a vid of someone trashing an iPhone 4
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Vilam:
Thank you so much <3
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] hoss_n2:
the only missing thing now is unlocking the bootloader to flash custom roms
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] chris2403:
apparently it helps with the signal
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Vilam:
I loled :D
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] HunteronX:
I know that this is a bit random, but after clearing the 'Google Apps' data from the Manage Applications list, games like Doodle Jump and Raging Thunder 2 are now in hi-res - it's great! :D

But how did this happen - is it just me, as I had an old T-Mobile Pulse with a HVGA screen which used the same google account? :confused:
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] HunteronX:
I found out that it was to do with the 'Spare Parts' app - I unticked the compatibility mode option - rebooted, and this happened.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] ballubas:
anyone knows what happened to the link with the root available on it on gsm.vgtribune.com?

it was there yesterday day but hasn't been there since last night?:confused:
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Koen87:
It was fake and would've most likely brikked your phone;)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] ballubas:
cheers!:D:D:D:D:D:D
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Vilam:
Sadly it was a fake :'(

Know, let's wait for real root :engel:
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] jojosplace:
The post on the GSM Tribune webiste regarding root has vanished as well. Shock horror!

:rolleyes:

EDIT: No, still there, maybe they removed it last night then put it back up again. Or maybe I was a bit pished!

EDIT 2: No, it's gone, it seems my work computer has had a brain fart, just checked the site on my x10 and the article is gone.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] glitchexe:
Hopefully I'm posting this in the right spot.

I flashed my phone with the X10i WWE_R2BA020 firmware and flashtool yesterday and it works beautifully. I noticed in that thread that bin4ry said we could flash the X10a baseband which got me to thinking about how to make my phone look like an X10a while running the X10i firmware.

I know the only difference is in the bands, and essentially they are the same phone and, everything works fine on my phone right now blah blah blah. EXCEPT for one thing.

Since I'm a Rogers customer they have a Rogers On Demand Mobile app that allows you to watch on demand TV but also allows you to stream the FIFA World Cup games. In their infinite wisdom Rogers uses a simple HTTP POST check to see what your phone says it is and if your phone type isn't on the list it doesn't pass the check. So while my phone itself is the X10a model it reports to Rogers as an X10i which isn't on the list.

My brother has an N1 (which also isn't on the list) and he simply adjusted a few lines in his system.prop and build.prop so that it looks like an X10a and it works without a problem.

After that long winded intro my question is; is there a way I can make my X10a phone with X10i firmware report as being an X10a without needed to have a custom ROM?

Thanks very much to all, and keep up the great work.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] proyaz:
I guess they removed it so that people dont try the super fake method and brick their beauties (x10s) .. :D
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] ddewbofh:
It's fun to see how worked up people get over root when:

1. The customized 1.6 in the X10 works really well with a lot of the features from 2.x added.

2. Root does not mean flashing custom ROMs, meaning that newer versions are still unpossible to flash.

3. Root does not mean automagic removal of the simlock.

Personally I'd love root for the tethering abilities but other than that I'm pretty happy. I can kill off Mediascape and Timescape should I want to, I don't need root for that and my phone's not locked to one operator.

Sure it'd be nice to have full access to the hardware so I can hack around more and not waste time looking for workarounds but that's hardly the problem for all the whiners.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] gavriel18:
+1 but i have no answer. I would suggest posting this question on the decrypted roms thread.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] bhal92:
custom roms ?

So can we make custom Rom fpr the x 10 now ie 2.2 rom ?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] FRiKiNFRoG:
right now and put them on the phone? Nop.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] jnd16d:
still wait for the method of root.. lol...
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] McKebapp:
Please be patient... Everybody.

There is no need to post something like that.

The Devs are working in barely each free minute at it.

Once a "all in one" solution is ready, a waterproof guide will be written and the method will go wild...

But it still takes some/lots of time, because it's supposed to be "Non-IT-Pro/Linux-User-Friendly" when its released.

Updates will follow as there are any...
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] bhal92:
I was just trying to ask a question, when the root process is available to all will we be able to get some custom roms working. I saw a post on the bounty thread saying that custom roms couldn't be made due to driver issues?

Bhal