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[Nexus One General] derfasaurus:
So I've done all this, getInstallLocation shows that 2 [External] is the place to install to but still apps like G4 and Baseball Superstar 2010 do not / will not allow me to Move to SD. Anyone able to move these apps using this method?
[Nexus One General] khaytsus:
I suspect they are protected apps, and no, they will not move if so.
[Nexus One General] BelgianAtheist:
I had been switching from 0 to 2 and back because I think some apps should not be moved to the SD even if possible (widgets etc.) and I thought on setting 2 it would always install to the SD but I've noticed that it moves apps that natively can move to SD immediately but apps that normally have the button greyed out are installed to the phone. So I'm keeping it on setting 2 for the moment.

I've not done extensive testing.

I have a question though do phones with large internal memory (not on SD card), like the Samsung Galaxy which is listed with "8GB internal memory", see all that memory as RAM?
[Nexus One General] derfasaurus:
Ah, okay, so that's what defines it.

You just made my day with that little tidbit, by "pirating" my own purchased apps I can now move them to SD. Copying it out of app-private to the SD card, backing up with Titanium Backup, uninstalling and installing the APK from the SD card you can install to the SD card. Now updates may be broken, won't know until they provide one I guess.
[Nexus One General] kimidroid:
I tried doing this and via the adb method. However after I download an app from marketplace, the phone internal storage decreases although under the Manage Application shows the downloaded app is already in SD Card.

I believe this is not normal..
[Nexus One General] khaytsus:
ONLY part of the total program space goes to the SD. Basically just the apk itself. All data or other things created by installing the application are still in /data in internal storage.
[Nexus One General] thomaspsmith:
This is brilliant! Thanks so much for the tip!
[Nexus One General] Izakvdm:
Non rooted want to move apps

Ok so my main problem is that I want to move apps like FB and some of the other 'system' apps to SD. The above solution works fine for most downloaded apps but it still eats up local storage space.

How do I force even the greyed out ones to move to SD.

I have a Desire running Froyo and not rooted.
[Nexus One General] android_master:
yes that's exactly i believe it always goes,most of the data remains in internal storage only
[Nexus One General] shivaranjan:
I have set this in CM 6 settings and I also use Titanium backup to move apps to SD
[Nexus One General] Izakvdm:
Still unfortunately does not help us users with unrooted phones as Titanium Backup can only be used on rooted devices.....
[Nexus One General] zaidam:
I'm using move2SD software from the market & set it to External. All install software will be install on SD Card
[Nexus One General] vegetaleb:
I am using ''app 2 SD'' free app from the market, very easy to use but only 1/3 of the apps can be moved
[Nexus One General] khaytsus:
System apps are in /system. User-installed apps and data are in /data. They are not the same partition. /system is of course limited in some ways, but apps in /system are not taking away "Internal phone storage" available space.

So that's the whole point of this thread, is it not? Do the commands and you can move any of them. Just don't move anything that runs all of the time or has widgets you use.
[Nexus One General] jimdriver2:
I'm hoping someone here can help me.

I did the trick to set the default installation setting to the SD card, enabling me to move a load of apps. It worked perfectly for ages however yesterday about 5 apps were updating and got stuck 'installing' and I had to turn the phone off.

From that point on it wouldn't allow me to install or update apps. I have to change the location of an app to the phone, update it, and then move it back to the SD. That works for apps already on the phone, but if I try to put anything new on it just fails to install because it's trying to go the SD by default.

I think I must have broken something, and i'm hoping it's just a setting somewhere which can be refreshed or something.

Any advice would be great thanks!
[Nexus One General] khaytsus:
This has nothing to do with Apps2SD, usually you can just cancel or kill the Market app.

Try going into Settings->Applications, find the Market app, and clear data there.
[Nexus One General] UnicornKaz:
You guys need to do a search for:

"MOD INSTALL LOCATION"

That will solved a lot of your problems .. ;-)

;)
[Nexus One General] jimdriver2:
I tried killing market off. Even deleted all the data so I had to go through all the initial confirm stuff again. Didn't make any difference.

To put it a different way basically the problem is when apps attempt to install/update direct to the SD card the installation they fail. Once they're on though they can be moved to the SD and it will work fine.

Surely there is something I can just clear or reset to deal with what's causing the install to problem.
[Nexus One General] khaytsus:
Ah, I never saw that when I was using App2SD. Hope you can figure it out, toggling that bit on and off is kind of annoying, I did it for about a month. :)
[Nexus One General] kingars:
Ok, Froyo support instalation on SD card, but... If i install one app with 12mb, and move to sdcard, 9mb go to sd card, and the rest remains in the main memory. How place everything in the sd card?
[Nexus One General] shortdawg24:
don't move to sd , install to sd
[Nexus One General] kingars:
But don´t install in SD :( Ever install in main memory :(

Any suggestion?

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[Nexus One General] Chahk:
You cannot. Part of the app stays on internal memory.

Of course you can always root and use the Apps2SD script that puts all of the apps on a Ext partition of your SD card.
[Nexus One General] gdfajkldfkwfj:
I ran

in ConnectBot Local after rooted and sh

No error but new apps still get installed to main memory(I can move it to SD in application settings)
[Nexus One General] begemoth.ch:
shell

Avec un emulateur de terminal comme Terminal emulator, on peut saisir la commande directement :

pm setInstallLocation 2 sans passer par l'installation du SDK et tout le toutim'
[Nexus One General] S3nd41:
I executed the command and checked it using "adb shell pm getInstallLocation" (reported 2 [sdcard]) but still apps get installed to the internal memory (and yes, the apps are movable to the SD), I read on another post here in XDA that this command doesn't work on stock roms. Is that so? Please advise!
[Nexus One General] adulfo:
try adb shell pm set-install-location 2.
[Nexus One General] cpm:
Try App 2 SD from Play market.
[Nexus One General] matroihanoi:
On ISC 4.0.4 , I use: pm set-install-location 2
[Nexus One General] ri123:
Does app2sd affect the way setting the install location works???
[Nexus One General] Menelkir:
http://xdaforums.com/announcement.php?a=81

4. Use the English language.

We understand that with all the different nationalities not everyone speaks English well, but please try. If you're really unable to post in English use an online translator, You're free to include your original message in your own language below the English translation.

:P
[Nexus One General] Mr.Doc:
thanks alot
[Nexus One General] 1wayjonny:
X\.android_secure
[Nexus One General] joshualimjs:
apps need to be updated to support writing to SD card.

Source - Androidguys. http://www.androidguys.com/2010/05/22/storing-apps-sd-froyo/
[Nexus One General] brosenz:
My \.android_secure directory is empty
[Nexus One General] jblazea50:
how can i delete my ext partition since i don't need it anymore?
[Nexus One General] kamasi36:
Great find freed up 37 mbs for me. Payed apps is a no go though.
[Nexus One General] vigan8:
when i did this...i cant move or install any apps my phone just reboots into the animation screen...
[Nexus One General] Henchman:
That's weird.

Cause even my paud apps are going to SD
[Nexus One General] asko1981:
Thank you, sir! Worked!
[Nexus One General] anstosa:
Boot up your favorite Linux distro. I used an Ubuntu Live CD, launch GParted, unmount the ext partition, delete the ext and swap partitions, unmount the FAT32 partition, resize the FAT32 partition to take up the whole card. Note that resizing risks data corruption so it's safer to just backup and reformat the whole card as FAT32 which you can do in any OS.
[Nexus One General] Henchman:
I issued the command before re~insralling any apps.

After that, everythung has been automatically been installed to theSD card.

Including everything restoref using Titanium backup.
[Nexus One General] sinbot:
same

I guess quoted text doesn't count towards minimum character count but I bet this does.
[Nexus One General] clubtech:
It works.

After the running the command from the first post i was able to move most of apps to the SD card.

a few had the option grayed out, i assume it is becasue they are protected.
[Nexus One General] largo79:
When I try to run the command in adb it says pm not found. Any reason why it might say that? I've used adb for other stuff so I know it's set up correctly. Thanks.
[Nexus One General] adamstributer:
Same issue here.
[Nexus One General] AndyCr15:
Me too...

Although, I don't think I installed the 2.2 SDK? Will that be it?

**EDIT** Nope, using the latest, same error.

I've wiped everything after the flash, if that makes any difference?
[Nexus One General] AndiTails:
It's what's on the phone, not your PC.

Have you got BusyBox installed?

Grab cyanogen's kernel and flash that.

I've not updated my SDK, but have got cyanogen's kernel (which includes BusyBox) so it might be the extra commands that gives.
[Nexus One General] robotnoize:
had the same issure then I copied and pasted and then it worked! try that!
[Nexus One General] therealmigz:
i have the stock kernel and it worked for me. thanks.
[Nexus One General] AndyCr15:
Okay, this worked when I ran the commands whilst looking at my wallpaper (as in, I booted it)

Now, it's trying to install ALL my apps (the market is) and each one is failing. What's going on?!?!?
[Nexus One General] adamstributer:
got the OPs command to work, I'm just a little special is all (or so it seems). However, when I run these commands they all report back with Failure [INSTALL_FAILED_MEDIA_UNAVAILABLE].

not entirely sure what I have done wrong.

And apparently now when I try to manually move an app over to the SD card via the Apps manager....it reboots my phone.

This happens when installing ANY app. Just tried to get a fresh one off the market and it rebooted....awesome.
[Nexus One General] jblazea50:
thanks OP, it works; ran the adb command (adb devices, adb remount, adb shell, then the command) and now i have moved majority of the apps to SD card

thanks again
[Nexus One General] nonmindo:
worked fine for me...here are the steps i went through from the beginning

1. nandroid cm5.0.6 backup

2. flash 2.2 ontop of 5.0.6 (installed fine, but launcher FC'd nonstop)

3. wiped everything to scratch

4. rebooted phone (did not re flash 2.2 after wipe)

5. loaded fine

6. some apps failed to install from market, but eventually they actually showed

7. all apps to sd options were greyed out

8. ran the adb shell command

9. all apps were able to be moved (i did notice that it doesnt move the WHOLE app...seems to leave roughly 1/2 of the app still on the main partition)

everything working fine!....
[Nexus One General] FirstCapitan:
I've tried the command; apparently all things are ok and the option "move to Sd" is active and you can to install applications to sd. But when i reboot, i lost the applications in the menu.
[Nexus One General] tokyomonster:
Same thing happened to me after restoring applications from Titanium Backup
[Nexus One General] FirstCapitan:
The same happens when you install an application from the market; first, the application is there, but when reboot, the applicattion is missing
[Nexus One General] 1wayjonny:
I am afraid this is a waste of time for now. I just spent the last few hours messing with this apps2sd, even though we push it to our sdcards, it will not work with another android installation.

I have tested this about 10+ times, I even did the command before at the setup screen after a new flash, but before I signed in. I have tried many things but the new install will not pick up the *.asec files.

I found this:

/mnt/secure/asec = /sdcard/.android_secure

&

/mnt/asec = ?? it has files with no extensions

** It is possible the files will be picked up via a master list that can be repaired or something but that defeats the purpose of apps2sd, even if you have to repair it.

** This could be because we are forcing it but I do not think so because you can move them back and forth on the same installation, just not a new installation.

** Maybe a simple repair command will fix it as well but again the point of this is to make it easy right?

** Leaves 1/2* the files behind and pushes the other 1/2* to the sdcard

Hope we find something new because so far this will not replace the cyanogen method for me...
[Nexus One General] kamasi36:
Is there a similar method to move apps on A22 desire. I noticed on using this method on froyo it moved Google earth to sd card. I wish I could get that to work on Desire it would free up another 16 mbs. Even though apps to sd is working Google wants to be installed in internal storage. I went back to Desire...to much is missing that I like about sense, better option for watching video, cut copy and paste , plus option to search when you click on text that takes you directly to Wikipedia. Pinch to Zoom in email, I can go on and on. It was nice to check out though, I think the mflops thing is over rated. 6-8 is cool for me. Froyo is kind of buggy.
[Nexus One General] jblazea50:
i believe this option (move to SD) is useless at this point; whenever i reboot, it takes awhile for the apps to show up and whatnot; so i just moved it back to the phone and set it to 0 instead of 2
[Nexus One General] flappjaxxx:
So far the only thing that comes up missing for me is widgets on reboot. All my other apps are still there. I just moved my widgets back to the phone and no issues now.

*Note*

At first it seems my apps are not showing up but I went to Settings>Applications>Manage Applications and when I go back to my home screen and launcher everything is there.
[Nexus One General] sinbot:
Here is a list of applications I had which don't show up in the application tray, don't show up in the market and I can't install from backups:

market millionaire

katamari

documents to go

epocrates

tone picker

pdf viewer

cm updater

spare parts

terminal emulator

stop timer

any cut

compare everywhere

orienteer

planeteriax

google talk

same game

astro

jumpy

celebrity matchup

pixelpipe

qik

antennas

textonphone

imap weather

gkcd

dilbertdroid

telnet

toddler lock

stop smoking

gscript lite

download crutch
[Nexus One General] N3xt2N0N3:
How could I reverse OP's code? I can't install any app. The phone just soft resets every time.
[Nexus One General] mikroN1:
Just guessing but I'd try

adb shell
pm setInstallLocation 1

Could possibly have to re-install all your apps.
[Nexus One General] N3xt2N0N3:
I tried:

pm setInstallLocation 0

Everything is back to normal. Move to sd is greyed out on every app though.

EDIT: Apps also install from market like they should so I'm ok now.
[Nexus One General] sinbot:
RE my last post about apps not showing up, it seems that installing 2.2 without wiping can halt some things dead int heir tracks. Market wasn't working, Google Talk couldn't sign in.

Wiped, reflashed and now the previously mentioned list works.
[Nexus One General] kassemalaa:
apps not showing

I am having an issue here, my apps which were installed on my sd card are not showing anymore, some of them load (2 or 3) when i reboot my phone... but the rest are nowhere to be found, noticed that it happened right after i mounter and unmounted my sd card through usb... anyone can help?
[Nexus One General] RinTinTigger:
OP commands worked on rootet stock FroYo

with stock kernel
[Nexus One General] Gslick:
Please don't forget guys, that the command is case sensitive, I couldn't get it to work until I fixed the cap letters and then I can move all my apps to my SD, like the 12MB from flash player, ENJOY! APPS 2 SD, FROYO + ROOTED = WIN.

Just waiting for Cyanogen to bring back, trackball wake up, 360 rotate +++++
[Nexus One General] Markdental:
Have you rebooted yet and seen what happened?
[Nexus One General] Gslick:
Apps were gone including my flipclock :D, so I moved everything back to phone and they are all working again. But we are back where we started, the waiting game :D, Didn't they say that, apps would automatically go to SD after we ran out of internal space? Sigh, come on, I want to get this thing running perfect, flash is running 120% of my expectation with wifi on, played several games for about an hour. But after this Apps to sd is fixed and i repeat, Cyan brings back trackball wake up <---I cannot live without this, among other goodies, my froyo rooted n1 isn't 100% where I want it to be.
[Nexus One General] AndyCr15:
Are we all in this situation then? Basically the built in Apps2SD doesn't actually work?

It doesn't auto move them that I could see, I Titanium Backup'd my apps back and I was running out of space all the time, had to remove the bigger ones.
[Nexus One General] Markdental:
It will work when it is supported by the devs, but this apparently has to be made available by the developer.

Maybe it is a security issue?
[Nexus One General] xiutian:
This works great, thanks!
[Nexus One General] AndyCr15:
Ah, so whoever made the app has to set something that allows it to be stored on the SD card?

You would have thought Google themselves would have done this though, especially Google Earth at 22 meg!
[Nexus One General] Markdental:
I agree. But I think we will see this happening quickly.

BTW, the method described in the OP will work, until you reboot, then you will have to reinstall all your apps to your phone.

I wouldn't waste my time.
[Nexus One General] ogdobber:
thanks for the tip. works perfect...all apps move
[Nexus One General] BrooklynAvi:
IMHO, the new apps2sd method is simply terrible. Nice try Google but I'll be keeping my ext partition since it actually works well and saves space on internal storage. That is, of course, unless a better way of utilizing the new a2sd method is discovered.
[Nexus One General] Ehsan021:
I see all post but sorry i cant find any solution to move my app2sd !?

what i must to do ? what command i need for adb ?
[Nexus One General] BarateaU:
I did that command, but everytime i try to move something the phone soft resets.
[Nexus One General] Gslick:
I also noticed, after I put all my apps back into my internal and installed 3 new apps (keep in mind i never went back to install location 1), all 3 of those apps were installed into my SD card, and all 3 apps work fine, even after reboot. I'm not sure if the whole app size is in SD, but I can confirm that the apps are in my SD and could be moved back to phone but working. Proof? Go to this youtube and fastfoward past half way. link below. It's the featured video on the main page. Uploaded today, hopefully the 720P quality is already up. So the fix would be, do the command on the original post, and install apps after it, but dont move apps yourself manually, yet...

www.youtube.com/user/exclusivegslick
[Nexus One General] woSaa:
i install "terminal emulator" from Market,

start Terminal Emulator and enter:

su

pm setInstallLocation 2

this works true for root users!
[Nexus One General] mrnexusone:
thanks working here all apps moved to sd:D
[Nexus One General] reycat:
Worked flawlessly, used Android Terminal Emulator to avoid all that adb hassle :)
[Nexus One General] Vegito168:
Have you rebooted, to see if the issues that everyone has been reporting earlier happens? If it works fine even after a reboot, and you don't have any problems I will most definitely try it through the terminal emulator.
[Nexus One General] phunghoang24:
Have some one used USB ? all application is not come back when unplug ????? my phone's app is missed !
[Nexus One General] chrisoyh:
Tried the OP's commands, and I could move most apps to SD. Rebooting doesn't cause any major failures. But I did notice that any apps that has a widget component will not have it's widget available for selection at the home screen, after it has been moved to SD. An example would be the Engadget app.

Anyone who can concur with my observations?
[Nexus One General] reycat:
I've been trying different things:

- Google Earth. Had it installed before doing the SD thing, it worked. Changed the toggle to 2 and moved Google Earth to the SD card. It's still working, even after a reboot.

- Replica Island. Installed it after doing the toggle thing, so it installed straight to the SD card. Works after a reboot, no problem.

- Calendar Pad. Same as Replica Island, installed it straight to the SD card. The app works. However after a reboot I can't find the widget.
[Nexus One General] :
Thanks Henchman! And thank you 1wayjonny, for making it easier to move all the apps! Props guys! :)
[Nexus One General] lynxiayel:
can u please post ur steps done on terminal? I'm suffering the soft-reboot issues after a reboot. thanks a lot
[Nexus One General] onehoon:
In my case

Only widget has a problem....

I use 2 widget. both has gone after reboot with this method.

so i moved both to phone from SD. then reboot. No problem so far

thanks a lot
[Nexus One General] HooKy:
Just wanted to say thanks for the post. Worked like a charm!

I simply ran the adb command and moved some of my bigger apps to the SD card. Everything I have moved thus far works fine, even after reboot. Haven't moved anything with a widget yet, so can't comment on that issue.

(Rooted N1, moved from cm5.0.6 to froyo following full wipe/factory reset).
[Nexus One General] reycat:
I just did what woSaa said, but using Android Terminal Emulator (couldn't get Terminal Emulator to work).
[Nexus One General] Squeaky369:
Has anyone had any issues with the FROYO-APP2SD with certain applications like Process Manager and SetCPU?

I was having an issue while using the force to SD card command and when I would reset my phone, it would delete any apps that were installed on the SD card...

Someone out there that's trying this, please reset your power on your phone and see if everything comes back...
[Nexus One General] Amdathlonuk:
Everything is okay for me, even Dolphin HD works flawlessly.

However as I posted in another Apps2SD thread, I managed to restore 131 apps with TI Backup but it then stopped and won't restore anymore. All that have been restored are on the SD card and I have loads of space left.

I am trying to restore 445 apps in total.

EDIT - After rebooting again ALL of my apps on SD have dissappeared.... hmmmmmmm.
[Nexus One General] derfasaurus:
My apps are gone after a restart as well. Can still launch them by searching for them though, just not in the drawer.

edit: my bad, I was using Launcher Pro which wasn't working, regular Launcher.
[Nexus One General] Vegito168:
Thanks,

I just tried the method via the terminal emulator, moved all my apps that aren't dependent the system, then rebooted immediately, and all is fantastic! Even after more than one reboot. :D

The only issue is that I forgot that in order to use the widgets for pandora and slacker and a few others, they must stay installed on the phone memory, or you won't have them to select from.

Other than that, I'm extremely pleased! :cool: Thanks for the terminal emulator command woSaa! :)
[Nexus One General] Gslick:
It works when you install apps after, but if you move them yourself, they stop working. I'm satisfied atm :D

www.youtube./user/exclusivegslick <--- me using froyo HD with sick flash usage!