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[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dgunn1956:
Had a similar problem on HTC HD2 T9193 - Fixed under Warranty

I had a similar problem with a stock standard HTC HD2 T9193 from Telstra here in Australia. Started out fine when purchased back in March 2010 but quickly developed problems. Firstly the GPS radio stopped working, then the SIM card reader failed, and finally it started spontaneously soft resetting when the battery was warm or I was downloading anything. Each time I took it back to Telstra and the repaired the fault but the last (i.e. 3rd) time they replaced everything (including IMEI) except the outer cover. Now works better than when new. Process was easy for me as I live near the Telstra shop where I bought it, so I just took it in. They got sick of the sight of me but it was all worth it.

Hope this helps.

Cheers, dgunn1956
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Esaj2:
I am also one of them, who have numerous issues with their HD2.

First problem occured, when I was still using the old stock ROM WWE 1.66, which came with the phone, when I bought it. The problem was that I was unable to watch more than a few seconds of Youtube. The phone always rebooted itself.

I tried to fix the problem by updating to the new stock ROM (WWE 3.14). However the problems came worse. The phone started to reboot itself on its own every few hours or even every few minutes. It was so annoying that I had to get custom ROM. I got an Artemis ROM, which fixed the rebooting issue. However then I started to have the clock issue (clock turning itself an hour forwards). I was able to fix this problem by switching off the automatic time update.

Now I have the same old issue, which I've got when the phone was new. The Youtube has again started to crash the phone, however it works for few minutes, but then it crashes resulting the phone to reboot. The phone heats up a little, but I wouldn't call it hot. Web surfing and everything else works just fine. One other issue still exists and it is the GPS. Whenever I use app that uses the phone's GPS, it causes the phone to eat a lot of battery. Somehow the GPS stays on even when I fully close the program via task manager. After using ie. Google Maps or TomTom, I have to reboot the phone because otherwise the phone would eat its battery empty.

If somebody has any fixes to these problems (Youtube crashing, GPS stays on and eats a lot of battery), I would be very gratefull.

Oh, and I live in Finland, I have one year old SIM-card and the phone uses stock WWE 3.14 ROM which I updated to the Artemis ROM (I think the version is WWE 4.10).
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HappoMatka:
HD2 reseting

Hi,

Just heard from a friend that I have installed a custom rom that hes Leo is having this issua also.. Only difference I saw from the problems posted here is that hes phone soft boots as soon as the phone asks for the pin code.. It did it as a stock winmo also.

And what i've learned from this thread is that there isn't any quick fix for it, cos it clearly seems to be a hardware issue, other than to stock rom it and send it for repair?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mu3taz:
guyssss I had the same problem with my hd2 rebooting itself .. its a hardware issue .. all what you have to do is to stick a little piece of paper at the other end of the battery and make sure all the pins that are coming from the phone to the battery are not sticking out and it wont reboot anymore
[Shadow General] carlwang:
My phone is t-mobile shadow 2. I want to updated so that it can support Chinese. But I can't unlock the spl. I also tried install Chinese font but failed. Who can help me? Thanks!
[Shadow General] XuanJi:
Me too

Waiting for the reply
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] the-nj:
hey

i think about buying a touch pro 2 and as now im running android on the htc kaiser and love it i want to have it on the touch pro 2 too

so could someone please tell me the current state?

is NAND available? so internal flash?

and are there several builds?

and how about the chiefs? are there quiet a few so the developement is fast?

and then does anyone know how the touch pro 2 is compared to the kaiser?

is it way faster and better?

thanks

nick
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Reefermattness:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=627997
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] demandarin:
as far as the phone itself, the Rhodium way better than the Kaiser(i have 2 tilts also :-)). it has a bigger higher quality screen. more finger friendly touch screen, etc...dont get me wrong, the Kaiser(tilt) , in my opinion, was one of the first true do it all phones. i was doing everything with that phone..lol as far as Android on Rhodium concerned, You be better off reading that link that Reefer posted for ya. I have the Tilt 2 with XDAndroid AOSP 2.1 n lovin it :cool:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] the-nj:
thanks for the replies,

about android

it doesnot seem to be a very fast developement as we have it for the kasier.

do you have just 2 different builds?

what about a sense build? because they released a new one with rosie launcher which looks very nice.

thanks

nick
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] demandarin:
i believe theres 3 builds goin on simultaneously. the original build, then Aosp 2.1 , and the Klinux 2.1 build. of course the Rhodium isnt going to be as far along as the kaiser. the kaiser been out alot longer b4 the tilt 2. so its Android project is going to be further along in developement. the Rhodium is night and day different than the kaiser. wvga 480*800..its like Kaiser is Nintendo and Rhodium is like playstation 2 or 3..lmao
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] rsmith675:
personally i would hold on to the kaiser until sound is figured out on the rhodium builds that was one of my main concerns when i bought my tilt 2 but as far as development goes Rhodium is going along rather quickly considering on how long development of 2.1 builds on kaiser with and of course Sense 2.1 is gonna be a big improvement when you do move to rhodium
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] the-nj:
okay thanks

i did buy a pt2 now but i guess then il need to stay with windows mobilke for a few month!

i just hope that the 2.1 android developements goin fast and ill do my best to help out with it!

nick
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] gingerprince:
If you were buying a new phone and wanting Android, why not buy a phone with Android on it by default??
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] the-nj:
beacuse i want to have a full keyboard and ki dont like the G1
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] atomiq:
there is a samsung with full physical keyboard and android 2.0

i thinks time to close..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] mxxcon:
if you want to buy tp2 purely for android, why the hell would not just buy android-native phone.

no matter how good all these xda builds are, they will never be as good as running a phone designed from the ground up to run android.

even if you want keyboard, there's bunch of android phone to choose from. although with swype and similar types of input, i find myself using physical keyboard less often.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Fancy_Lad:
Sprint SERO is the best answer to this one. The jump from $30/month to $60+ is quite a lot to swallow. I'm doing it for the EVO, but my wife just couldn't justify it and bought a TP2 today. She is still on WM, but hopes to be able to dual boot them both once the sound issue is resolved.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] berardi:
^ I'm waiting to buy a TP2 for this port. I will NOT pay double price
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] mxxcon:
I'm on SERO too and upgraded to TP2, but not because of android(it wasn't released then). but again, if you want a phone to run purely android, perhaps look at diamond, i think its development state is further along than tp2.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] the-nj:
hey,

thanks for all your advice but ive already bought the tp2...and its not just because android...i have a kaiser right now and running android on it and i just like the tp2 as the device...and not because i could run android on it...

so i just wnated to know what works and what doesnt and what build are availabe...just the current state of developement. but i think im kindof in it now and know the build availabe and as soon as we have a native bootloader for android i might run android again...but for now ill just stick with wimo

thanks

nick
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Entropy512:
There are currently, to my knowledge, no phones that satisfy the following three requirements:

1) Keyboard (N1 doesn't have this)

2) Support for the AT&T 3G band (Everything but N1 and Backflip)

3) Non-backlevel (has to be 2.0 or greater for Android) OS release (Backflip is a cripplephone at 1.5 or 1.6)

In my case once Android for Rhodium becomes more mature, I might use it as an Android phone, but so far thanks to the lack of a phone that offers all three of my requirements above for Android, I'm sticking to the Tilt2 running a Windows Mobile EnergyROM build, which meets all three of my key requirements above.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Unknownforce:
Here's why, at least in my case... there's no phone out right now that meet ALL the following criteria:

1.) WVGA or greater (480x800)

2.) CDMA (I'm on Sprint)

3.) Native Android (2.1+)

4.) Physical Keyboard (I hate the touchscreen keyboards, always fat fingering, I swapped my diamond for a TP1 because of this)

However, I bought my TP2 originally because I was upgrading from a TP1, never expected to use android on it, but seeing that it's SO much faster than WinMo, I would much rather use it than WinMo... Not to mention unless Windows Phone 7 is some kind of revolutionary break through (which as it seems, it looks like "too little too late") they are going to lose to Android, very quickly, so I'd rather stay ahead of the curve or at least in line with it, rather than fall behind.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MetaL_IcaruS:
I am desperate now, PLEASE HELP!!

I have to 2 flames, none is working ok, in the first one I can´t use PHONE conection, in the second, I do can use phone, but can´t sync to pc, or use gprs networks even using nik fix (and other problems). I even prefer the original wm5, but can get it back.

I had them in perfect condition before I first flash (My frst flash was this: http://xdaforums.com/showthr … ?t=442190,)

How can I clean everything and flash them back to original rom? and had them like I had them right out of the box?

is there any possible way to really clean my ppc? every time I put a new version (I flash with new version, like blackdoor versions, of WM6.5 etc..), I continue to have the same problems with BOTHS FLAMES!!, I have never recovered phone function in one flame, and the just mentionet functions in the other.

this is frustrating, and no one has been able to help, PLEASE!! I beg you help!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] eschapiro:
Hi.

Somehow my AT&T Rhodium has a VERY LOW mic gain. It shows in very low audio when I use the phone (I listen OK, the third parties do hear me very low).

If I use the voice recorder, the recordings have very low audio level as well.

Now I have an Energy ROM, but the problem is the same if I go back to the shipped AT&T ROM.

Anyone can help me out in boosting the mic gain ?

Thanks in advance.

David.-
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] papo:
i would say your MIC is broken. as you already pointed out. it's not a radio problem and it's not a rom problem. There suppose to be two mikes in rhodium, for the echo cancellation. maybe one of them is dead. mike is not an expensive thing, but you need to search for it, find out what type is it and get similar. I think if you will go search for rhodium microphone, it would be more costly.

btw. third parties on a phone call... you mean those people monitoring your calls? it's nice of you to want them to hear properly. :)

sorry, I couldn't resist :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] eschapiro:
Not a good solution

Hi.

First, sorry for my english flaws. I´m not a native english speaker (my native language is spanish).

I do live in Chile, and around here there is ZERO possibility to get a replacement mic. I can easily import one from the states, if I find one, but so far I have not found it, so I thought a software increase in the gain may at least solve part of the problem (at least meanwhile).

Thanks.

David.-
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] papo:
the joke wasn't about the language, but sorry anyway.

Your english is pretty alright. Mine isn't any better.

My idea was more about getting a mike from an old phone. In a mobile repair shop maybe. Microphone is a generic part. If it will fit by size, it will quite for sure work ok.

don't bother with headset's mics as they are far too big

And as rhodium microphones would be for sure overpriced, I was suggesting you to find out what kind of mike rhodium have, and get a replacement which will fit. Like if you go to mobile shop, they probably would know. then you can get e.g. mic from sonyericsson, anyway if it was kaiser I would say it would fit SE mic. But rhodium I didn't have opened yet.

And don't search "rhodium" but "pro2" as rhodium is chemical element and you'll get rhodium made mikes instead :)

As for making it lauder, I don't think that's quite possible for 2 reasons.

As you can't amplify digital audio signal, it has to come on maximum level you would use, while still analog, from before A/D so that the dsp can regulate the level from 0 (for maximum) down to whatever -12db. Means it can't go lauder and analog part is on max always. That's the easiest setup. I am not saying it's like that in rhodium, but even if not, second reason is, the phone has an AGC (auto gain control) and that would rise the level itself if it could.
[Windows Phone 7 General] L_I_V_I_B:
hi.i have a tuch pro 2 and i want to install WP7 on it.plz help me.tanx
[Windows Phone 7 General] faria:
There is no such rom as yet.

ps

take a look at my signature;) and welcome to the forum!

thread closed.
[Desire General] Dunbad:
Ok, so there are task killer threads that lead me to believe that they a are a waste of time by and large, and that android automatically sorts things out. Those same posts also point out that task killers are an extra drain on the battery having to start applications over again uses more battery than leaving something dormant in the background. These posts are not the thoughts of one person but unanimous to those threads. All very well, but then there are the battery saving threads that say to close down all applications that aren't being used to save additional battery??? Again this is the view of everyone in those particular threads, so is there any chance of getting the two camps to FIGHT! And then I can decide which I shall choose to do!

For info I currently have task killer and use it all the time and get a full days use out of my battery which is good because I cane the hell out of it! But If I could improve it that would be good. I have however this afternoon decided to not use task killer for a few days and see how I get on. But an explanation would be good from both sides.
[Desire General] scotch whisky:
I never use a task killer and get 2 or 3 days use out of of my Desire. No point in a war just use your Desire for a week without a task killer and then a week with. I am pretty sure you will just find the task killer slows things down and doesn't improve battery life. You will not find any of the ROM chefs using a task killer either!
[Desire General] polystirenman:
HI

I was reading one of those posts this morning and decided to uninstall task-killer.I have to say that after half day of heavy use my device started to be so laggy it took contacts or calendar 5 seconds to open!then I checked running processes and pretty much everything I was playing with was still running.memory dropped to 10MB and device became unusable.cannot say battery use has improved.I think it was the same.

But my task-killer is back up and running.

I must say that I am new to Android.I was using WM for long time.I can cook my own ROMs so I am not a noob but I know very little about Android.so if anyone knows what could be the reason of this huge slowdown I will be grateful for explanation.

And one more thing that needs to be said...

My device is rooted and I am using a2sd too.
[Desire General] dhiral.v:
You may like to read this:

http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
[Desire General] polystirenman:
well.i did read that before.that is why i do not understand why my phone was so slow.they are claiming that android should close apps by itself to reclaim memory.but in my case that wasn't true.everything was running and nothing was getting closed by system.
[Desire General] pascanu:
Here's another good read:

Google and Cyanogen comments imply task killer/manager apps are pointless

Both Dianne Hackborn and Cyanogen say Task Killers are useless, even developers of these apps concur. You should listen to them, I guess they understand juuust a little bit more than we do what Android is about.
[Desire General] polystirenman:
i would like to believe it.i was so excited when i saw a post saying that i should get rid of task-killer.but as i wrote before after half day of heavy use(my phone is new so i play with it a lot :-D ) without task killer my phone was soooooo slow i couldn't use it anymore.today i had task-killer back on the phone and all day no slowdown what so ever.i don't understand that.i am starting to think it is related to A2SD and memory being relocated to SD card.
[Desire General] boge:
I also agree that taskkiller (the way it works for WM) is not good for android, because android has a better memory management...

but there is another flavour of taskkiller in the market... which are based on this:

How to configure Android's *internal* taskkiller

Unfortunately, your phone needs to be rooted before you can use that method.
[Desire General] andycted:
If you worry about memory remember that the worst kind of memory is...free memory ! Because it's not being used. Obviously ram gets reclaimed and freed when it's needed.

As said in a couple more redundant threads, there might be a rogue app which you are better off closing because it stays in the background wrongly eating cpu cycles, but this is very very rare. Otherwise I think it's just the usual placebo effect...
[Desire General] boge:
Have you read the link in my previous post?
[Desire General] mcgon1979:
ANOTHER thread about this... There must be plenty of threads on this now, but I'll just once more give my impression.

Personally I have had HTC widgets like NEWS or MAIL or CALENDER hang or crash on me and I could not restart them unless I restarted the phone. In this case an app killer was ESSENTIAL. I don't believe you need to leave the app killer running always and kill every single task when your done, but its essential to have one installed so if a widget hangs (as has happened quite a few times on the Desire) you can kill the hung app without having to try a 5 hour shut down(another desire issue) and battery removal.

Also... after 2 days use of many apps and camera use and internet and youtube app etc, your internal RAM will be about 50mb available to programs. yes, android is supposed to kill stuff as it needs, and Im sure it does, but 50mb free memory compared to 150mb the lag is VERY obvious. So I do tend to kill tasks like camera and youtube etc if I have not used them in a day and my phone seem slaggy. the phone definetly runs faster then. Thats just a fact. So the internal android task killer is not as efficent as you'd like to think. Android 2.2 runs 450% faster than 2.1 so maybe then no lag will EVER be noticable. I'll still keep a task killer installed though in case widgets crash or hang.
[Desire General] -A-P-M-:
I found my battery most efficient with this setup:

- Installed Advanced Task killer (free)

- Security level: High (it doesn't show system apps)

- I have put all frequently using apps on ignore list: ATK, Messages, BatteryTimeLite, Internet, Weather, Clock, Calendar (so Android manage with those apps)

- Auto kill Level: Safe

- Auto kill Frequency: 2 hours

With that setup battery lasts almost half time longer than without TK or with killing all apps when screen goes off. Also I don't have any force closes / lag.
[Desire General] andycted:
Never experienced lag at 100 or 20 mb free.
[Desire General] foxmeister:
The amount of free memory doesn't necessarily have anything to do with lag.

As Android does not use virtual memory (unless you've hacked in swapper, which is a bad idea anyway), it will attempt to make best use of available memory which may mean keeping recently used items in memory, and thus "consuming" free memory. However, if those items are not actively processing, they should not be consuming CPU cycles and therefore consuming little to no power.

As far as a running system is concerned, having lots of free memory just means that it is being underutilized.

I don't kill tasks and my phone never lags - that's just a fact too! :)

Regards,

Dave
[Desire General] scotch whisky:
Using this method it is possible to make the native task killer a bit more aggresive. I did some experiments with this on the HTC Hero and it just might have improved speed slightly but at the expense of stability.

"Normal" task killers are completely pointless but if people want to use them why not? It they want to sacrifice both battery life and performance by using one surely that is their choice. Whatever the experts says will not convince them.

I suppose you could use one to kill the very occasional hung app. i.e. Once every few days, but most people seem to use them constantly and totally indiscriminately.
[Desire General] andycted:
1. About Cpu: get a task manager with cpu monitoring and verify for yourself, frozen applications in background don't do anything.

2. About memory: If an application needs 10 MB it just uses 10 MB and couldn't care less if there are 11, 100, 1000 MB free. The only moment you COULD see a tiny slowdown is the instant it needs 20 and there are only 10 available, but the system is quite good in managing that, and freeing resources (there are six levels of memory cleaning which progressively remove unused applications from the background)

3. If you stop monitoring memory usage, stop worrying about the system, you'll find out it manages itself perfectly and you enjoy the phone a lot more.
[Desire General] -A-P-M-:
Interesting article about installed apps and a battery.

http://blog.gsmarena.com/android-handsets-batteries-should-last-for-more-than-a-day-google-says/

"...Page accused the installed apps of causing the problems and claimed that software running in the background exhausts the battery quickly...."
[Desire General] andycted:
as said in the post above, get a cpu monitoring task manager and see for yourself if you have something wrong. Personally I don't have any.

Also watch battery history which tells you if the phone doesn't manage to go properly to sleep (partial wake)

regarding that article, iphone users get way less battery time and they don't even have multitasking...

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Ipad's dont have "Spell Check" thery have "Replace" built into Safarii adn it wokrs just fineq!!!
[Desire General] thanito:
I personally installed auto memory manager, an app that configures android's internal task killer. Its not a task manager by itself, uses android's task manager. You can set the limits in MB for all the app categories android has.

I was using it in my hero as well and found it really useful. Before having it installed, after some time my free memory was ~50mb, thus my phone was sometimes lagging. Now its always above 100mb and no lag at all :)
[General Questions and Answers] xamax88:
Hello,

I tried skyfire 0.85 and 1.5... for WM.

Is it possible to go online via WLAN?

Every time I start skyfire it wants to connect via data service (Locating...).

THX

cU

xamax