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[Touch Pro CDMA] icedgreece:
Title says it all.

I go to install a ROM, connections are good, phone is unlocked, etc, and everything seems fine. I run the "ROM update utility", just like anyone else would, phone says "updating" like it always did, but nothing changes. it just wiped the phone and keeps the old ROM on there.

I have done lots of ROM changes before, I'm not sure what happened. I left it with a guy to fix due to minor water damage, but he wouldn't of changed anything.

What should I do? I really need to change this ROM.

Thanks.

I forgot to mention that my phone does NOT reboot after a flash and installing a new ROM. I have to reset it myself. Then it boots up to the previous ROM.

Thanks again.
[Touch Pro CDMA] egzthunder1:
pm sent......
[Touch Pro CDMA] icedgreece:
Sorry, I don't understand?

thanks.
[Touch Pro CDMA] mapaz04:
He sent you a PM... Personal Message.

Instead of HotSync, download the ROM you want and:

1.) you will find a file called Signed_ruu.nbh.

2.) Rename that file to RAPHIMG.nbh

3.) Place file inside root of memory card (the folder that opens when you click on the storage card is your ROOT)

4.) Reboot into BOOTLOADER by resetting phone and keeping pressed the PWR and VOL- keys.

5.) This will find the ROM file for your phone, press the PWR button to start flash, the CENTER circle button to cancel.

6.) Once flash is complete, reset your phone. Voila, new rom installed/flashed.
[Touch2 General] dannybz:
Is there any registry key that removes the size of the SMS (e.g. 1K) shown and moves the date/time on the far right.

Just curious, I don't want to go over a lot of trouble just to change this. But if there is a simple registry change, I would like to know.
[HD2 General] darknyt:
Seriously annoyed with myself right now. Waited for this HD2 for a while now and it JUST became available on my corp website (US-Tmo) - could pick it up now if I wanted.

Of course now I'm considering if I wouldn't want to wait it out for the new iPhone to get announced June 7 and then roll onto my corp plan.

I specifically bought an iPod Touch so I would NOT be tempted to buy an iPhone for the wrong reasons.

But after suffering through 4 Sprint TP1's, and now on a Sprint TP2, I'm less than thrilled - and maybe wondering if I should just give up and go to dark side to get reliable operation. That is my biggest issue - phone is always stuttering and doing stuff I don't want it to - despite the upgrade to Sense 2.5, I still feel like I'm fighting the phone half the time.

I really really like the open source nature of winmo and hate the box Jobs creates around his products, but in my experience with my iTouch - it just works.

I played with the HD2 in the store and while the screen is much better now, I still felt I was trying to convince myself the keyboard and browser were as good as my iTouch - and that's the first sign I guess they're not.

Anyway, have at me - I'm just on the fence now.

EDIT FOR CLARIFICATION: I should point out, the only reason I went to the TP2 was Sprint forced me to burn an upgrade as I was "so close" to my 1 yr warranty they wouldn't process another upgrade and staunchly refused to move me to TP2 w/o fee as the famous memo said they should. However, I only upgraded after I was given written proof they will let me out of my contract with no ETF if I'm unhappy for any reason. So I have a get out of jail free card I intend to use as soon as I make up my mind and screw them right back.
[HD2 General] lude219:
Why stop there? Why not wait for the iphone 5g or the HD3?
[HD2 General] lquigley:
Get what "you" want!!

You are going to hear how good this phone is!! I love it! But it is not for everyone. If you like easy, stay with what you are used to. No one can decide for you. I researched for months,before it came out. I'm happy with what it is, & has, not what it might be or get!!
[HD2 General] DontHate:
ive seen the iphone hype and i dont care

a whole bunch of people dont care about hype, ironically they themselves are a demographic group.

i ordered my hd2 yesterday when my network rang me by suprise 3 months early offering an upgrade.

i guess they knew some pretty new phones were gonna be out (or at least in serious pre-release hype) when my contract expired.

i have an hd1 and just ordered my hd2 (arrives in a few hours ahem) i guess its pretty late in terms of how long the phone has been out, but i was always put off by the screen being too big to be a 'phone' as the hd1 is the maximum size in my opinion. i wanted the hd2 to be exactly what it is now, but the same size as the hd1.

why would you want an iphone anyway?

i have an iphone... i bought it dirt cheap broken it looked like it had been run over. i fixed it and got everything working, even jailbroke it put some apps etc but i never bothered to put it back together because i have a hd.

i actually use my phone. i use contacts, calendar, etc i remote desktop to my main pc. about a hundred other things as well, even though 'theres an app for that' on the ipod wm is just better.

xda... roms... i think youre just having trouble coming to terms with the fact that while iphones are good (dont get me wrong) and the new iphone will be good too, its just not the right phone for you.

thats something i can accept, lots of people feel like they HAVE to prefer the iphone.

basically a guy that doesnt even have his hd2 yet is trying to convince you to go for the phone you want, not the phone that wants to be loved the most (deep psychological implications there lol) so the hd2 must be good. its definately going down in history as an epic phone lol
[HD2 General] DontHate:
thats not good advice, the iphone 6g is almost out lol

maybe he has a 10 year contract
[HD2 General] DontHate:
so basically, what you have been waiting for has finally arrived.

the thing is you always get wacky efficiency ideas in your head when you see the light at the end of the tunnel. (the tunnel being the contract, and the light being the upgrade).

even if its not about upgrades and youre just buying phones, its intelligent to question outcomes of alternative solutions to decisions you have made.

so basically you already have an iphone. the ipod is basically all the selling points of an iphone, without the phone. if youre thinking yes, but the new iphone will be better than your current ipod touch then i guess thats true, but then whats the point of having that anyway then?

if you buy the hd2 are you gonna buy the next gen ipod touch to compensate for not having an iphone?

i think the hd2 has been pretty much been given the overall thumbs up by most of the world now its a pretty safe bet. look at how the reviews of the tp2 etc changed over time, the hype and novelty wore off and people moved on. the reviews for the hd2 are consistant now, even picking up as they come out on more networks.

sense is not your only option...

also, what is your phone doing that you dont want it to? running apps while youre on the phone is a big problem for many people that can be solved v easily.

if you feel like youre fighting against the fault then that is because of the user interface.

it takes too many clicks to do a lot of things in sense 2.5 too.

shortcuts help a lot. getting small apps to toggle wifi etc and do what you do commonly make your phone muuuuch easier to use.

why dont you say what you mean specifically?

yes but so does wm. there are stable versions of everything on wm that the iphone does.

you can install many different browsers. many stable and fast.

there are many different keyboards you can install on wm too...

different looks, different layouts, built in functions like copy and paste (by holding a key), shortcuts, numberpads, swipe, commercial ones, freeware, much more flexible. you can even put the iphone keyboard skin on your 'much better' screen of the hd2.

enjoy
[HD2 General] amb9800:
I think the only really compelling reason to go for an HD2 over an iPhone 4G is the 4.3" screen. The thing is enormous, and while I don't watch movies on the go (the HD2 can't really play HD movies anyway), the screen is just awesome-- every other phone screen now looks tiny to me. I prefer the industrial design on the HD2 to that of the iPhone 3G/3GS (maybe it seems novel because I've never seen a single other HD2 in the wild, whereas everyone and their dog has an iPhone), but the 4G iPhone is pretty sleek, so we'll have to see.

The HD2's capacitive screen is a big step up from old WM phones, but its accuracy is still not quite at iPhone levels, and despite the huge screen and the variety of keyboards available (after experimenting, I generally stick with the HTC one anyway), I still can't type nearly as accurately (and thus quickly) on the HD2 as on the iPhone. I think the main reason is Apple's still-best-in-class autocorrection (HTC's XT9 mode is so bad that I stick with normal entry, which has no autocorrect at all).

Snapdragon makes the HD2 faster than phones like the TP2, but it still has all the usual Windows Mobile problems (lagging, inconsistent behavior, things inexplicably stop working, needing to soft reset, etc.). The CPU is damn fast, so as a result it sometimes does fly, but it goes to waste in WM, which just delivers highly inconsistent performance. As a phone, my 2G iPhone (with a lowly 400 MHz ARM11 CPU) is much more consistent. I can answer every call that comes in on the iPhone without issue, I never have problems sending/receiving emails, etc., which is not quite true for the HD2 (which sometimes has the black screen of death, slows down tremendously, or just plain locks up, requiring a battery pull).

In sum, the HD2 is the greatest WM 6.x phone that will ever be made, but it's still a WM phone. So that means flexibility and customizability, but it also means having to fiddle with regular ROM flashes to get basic things working, a severe lack of third-party applications, and inconsistency throughout. No HD2 ROM is stable, fast, and bug-free to an iPhone-like level, or even anywhere close.

If you want something that "just works," the iPhone is your answer. I just wouldn't spend too much time with an HD2 beforehand though-- the enormous screen may hook you :D.
[HD2 General] darknyt:
Because I have jumped onto what was available at the time thinking that same thing and suffered through a crappy phone for a year and having Sprint completely **** me around over it. It's a complete crapshoot, I know. But I'm just trying to be patient with this and not jump on the HD2 just because it's there now, when we all know the announcement of the iPhone is less than 3 weeks away unless Jobs gets his panties in a knot. Just giving myself options between the two most likely candidates.
[HD2 General] xlr8me:
I can sum it up for you in 3 words...

"No Flash Support"

End of game...
[HD2 General] Spl4tt:
flexibility <> performance

decide for urself.

but u asked for opinions, so..

a friend is using the iphone OS 4.0 beta3 on his iphone 3gs, for me, it suxx, i really dont like it..

i never recommend an iphone, cause its just a way too expensive for so less things

maybe u could go for android, wich is fast and stable on a device like the desire.. much cheaper and still better hardware than an iphone. i dont think the iphone 4g will get hardware like the desire or hd2 has...

i used everything, winmo, android, iphone..

winmo is really flexible, iphone is very fast without lag, but android got both.. its flexible and fast. maybe u should try this?^^
[HD2 General] -=IRoN=-:
-1

Pfffff tired of those useless threads ....

if you want one , buy one or wait until it came out ..

But why the hell are you asking a bunch of winmo guys if it is a good choice...

What sort of answer are you looking For ?

to stick to the thread a bit more ....

Wait for 4G ! OR 5G ! or Ngage 4.3 or Nintendo 4DS phone (seems to be great ;)

Sorry i'm not exactly friendly here ....

But .... i'm tired of that ...
[HD2 General] madindehead:
To sum up the HD2:

1) One of the most powerful smartphones available.

2) The best chefs on xda cook for it

3) The best programmers develop mods for it (Co0kie's Home Tab etc)

4) Smooth operation

5) Great screen for movies and browsing

6) Overall a fantastic phone

7) You can play StarCraft on it

Yes, you could wait for the next iPhone. Or the HD3. Such is technology, that whatever you buy one day, will always be obsolete the next. Live for the moment, get the HD2, you will not regret it. Even if it doesn't perform exactly as you want in stock (I had practically no problems with stock performance thankfully) just get a custom ROM, make a few tweaks (excellent thread full of tweaks in HD2 General), and it WILL be an excellent phone.
[HD2 General] D.O.C:
besides talking, what do u use ur phone 4? which one can meet ur requirements as a user?..
[HD2 General] troed:
Hey ! IT IS SO EASY !!!! BUY BOTH and THEN decide ! :D:D:D
[HD2 General] Dr.Sid:
I would not by HD2 today. Because of windows. It's even worse since WM6.5 is becoming obsolete. HTC did great job with HD2 in masking WM. It almost seems like different OS. So I'm not entirely unhappy with it.

On the other hand I would not buy anything with smaller display today.

I would not buy any iPhone. Yes, they are cool, well thought out. Really lovely devices. But company policies suck. Also .. it is smaller then HD2.

It seems to me there is only one solution to this: Android.
[HD2 General] darknyt:
I prob need a serious primer in what I'm doing wrong, but I was attempting to play flash videos through skyfire just tonight over my home wifi - it was a freaking joke. Literally like a slideshow.
[HD2 General] darknyt:
Yeah, sorry - I forgot to say - Android is a no-no. Our IT dept (multinational, professional services firm so touchy about security) did extensive testing and Android doesn't meet our security requirements. Maybe when they get their **** together. We only just got the iPhone on our plan last year - partly due to cost negotiations, but also initially for security.
[HD2 General] fantasytozi:
That's interesting to know:)

Maybe u should check this thread;)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=679348
[HD2 General] darknyt:
Yup.

It's really more about having a phone that works more consistently. Nope will stick with my current iTouch - wife and kids usually keep it at home anyway.

I feel I made a bad choice picking up the TP2 that really only seems like an upgraded keyboard and bigger screen compared to TP1. Other than that, same ****ty internals. They made it bigger, but didn't change anything that would actually help perf. (clarification - I only upgraded as I have written proof they will let me out of contract for free if I'm unhappy for any reason because of how badly treated me on TP1) I'm sure part of the problem is the resistive screen, but tabs often don't scroll smoothly (like laggy as hell) and I end up not where I wanted to be, or have to get there in increments (click one tab, then another to get close enough to see music). That's another thing - wish winmo made someway to always get at music app quickly - can take forever to get back into it. Phone is just often slow - like last night I was trying to get back into mail and the phone just sat there on the home screen with the clock halfway between 11 and 12, obv hanging up for 15-20 secs.

But yeah, it's mostly inputs not working when I touch them, virtual keyboard being completely ****ty for quick entries, hanging, slowing down, making me wait for it. Just not as responsive as I'd like. Again, comparing its operation to my iTouch, just very different.
[HD2 General] darknyt:
Again, I lived for the moment and got the TP1 from my old tilt. Huge mistake. And Sprint knew it. And still jacked me around over it. I hate them.
[HD2 General] darknyt:
It's okay - I'm tired of it too. But I WANT to want to HD2 over the iPhone, so that's why I'm here. Just tired of fighting winmo lately on admittedly ****ty phones.
[HD2 General] Spl4tt:
u really should try an android phone.. go check the desire, i think u should like it^.^
[HD2 General] hofo_mofo:
*sigh* although I don't have my T9193 yet (it's on its way) i have been tempted to the dark side. That is, there are so many commercials on TV saying how they have and iPhone app, etc. In fact the other day, yellowpages (telephone directory) was announcing they had an app for smartphones...they had for: iPhone/iPod Touch, Blackberry, Android, and PreOS (i think that's how they referenced it)...once again WM is shut out of the club. It can be annoying don't get me wrong, but I always flock back to WM as it can easily and quite naturally sync with my outlook, and MS Voice Command...oh man, it r00x0r teh big one!!111.

WM may be shunned by many, but at the end of the road, if you use a Windows based machine, (use Outlook, although not required), and need Voice Command, and of course want to tinker with your toy, WM. If you use Google all the time for your PIM and such, Android may be your best bet. If you are an Apple user, and just want apps on the go, go with the iPhone.

Just my 1 and 3/4 cents. (devalued currency)
[HD2 General] M3PH:
My two cents is this:

I had a TP1 and have use a TP2 and the first thing i did was disable touchflo (i did the same with my touch diamond 1 aswell).

Got my HD2 T8585 last week (it's actually a week old tomorrow) and the first thing i did...... was disable sense. Since doing that i love it. I find that the custom UI's HTC installs on their devices aren't very good and are buggy.

The screen is large enough to make browsing actually possible. Espeicaly as my provider preinstalls opera (i tried IE but it's not got an as capable rendering engine as opera does) and it's fast (as long you stay away from the HTC text messaging app which is also a bit buggy). I'm actually looking at roms that use the default winmo outlook interface (ala wm5-6.1) for this as i have a friend that has a samsung jet that uses that interface and it's much better imho.

I do miss the precision of having a stylus but i find if you turn the phone on it's side the on screen keyboard is much easier to use but it still could be better (i think i may look into a folding bluetooth keyboard).

My phone came with the "normal" battery and i would recommend that anyone buying a HD2 should go the extended life one (with the appropriate battery cover) and also get a second usb cable.

As for the iphone. I have used one of those and i don't like it. All my friends think i'm nuts for not having one but my HD2 can do things the iPhone just can't and for that i laugh at them.
[HD2 General] Sibron:
dont hold back, i have had mine 3 months now, and its the best tool i have ever bought.

Got half my music on it (8Gb) + Copilot + 5mp camera, dont need to cary anything els other than wallet and keys:D.

Mine is a telstra version, and i have had none of the problems M3PH is reporting, i find the HTC interface to be a pleasure to use, and it looks great.

I go into Task Manager every couple of days and shut down things i am not using, so that might make the diference, performance wise.

I have played with the iphones of a couple of mates, and they just dont compare, i found the GUI ugly and not intuitive, though that may be because i am used to windows.
[HD2 General] M3PH:
i do have a trial version of copilot on mine (came installed) but i'm not gonna use it. google maps does the job with the inbuilt gps very nicely. I think some of my problems with the messaging application are to do with the 10,000 ish text i have. I don;t tend to delete them and i have kept them over 3 different phones spanning 4 ish years (thanks to pimbackup :)) so it my just be i'm pushing the limits of what HTC expects it to do.

Sense and it's bigger brother, touchflo, on the other hand are just awful from a design point of view and very slow.

Sibron, you also highlighted another bug bare of mine - smart minimize - it's such an awful idea especially if you are unfortunate enough to have a device that doesn't have a task manager or memory cleaner installed (/me points at his friends samsung). The poor girl has to reboot her phone atleast once a day to free up the ram. Although next time i see her i'm gonna install a copy of cleanram on it.
[HD2 General] smeddy:
I absolutely LOVE my HD2...

I love reading eBooks with AlReader, I love controlling my PC-TV with G-Remote, I love Outlook emails/peersonal emails, a great video player (although CorePlayer is a must and I hated shelling out for something that should have been on the phone to start with). I love the S2P music player, Cookie's Mod has drastically improved the home-page.

But...

If I dropped mine down the toilet now by mistake and had the choice of any phone... I wouldn't replace it with an HD2.

Mainly because... The stutters on the phone interface, how WM is so niggly and unstable in places, texting/writing emails is a nightmare, and I find I spend all my time flashing my phone or tweaking it rather than simply enjoying it. I mean I always love tweaking any gadgets to the max, but with the HD2 it's a requirement rather than a hobby, and I'd rather just be using my phone.

So if I was picking today (especially with 6.5 dying a slow death with the onset of WM7), I'd probably dip my toe in Android, or consider an iPhone (and I say this as someone who has never ever sent a penny Apple's way, partly because I've never wanted to, mainly out of principle).

The HD2 is a great phone, a fantastic phone, but it's quirks, and the general lack of enjoyable, useful, good-looking apps, make me feel I'm missing out a bit.

Re-reading all this, I feel I've been more negative than intended, so let me add that if you get the HD2, you will probably LOVE it, just be prepared for the quirks.
[HD2 General] fantasytozi:
+1. Sometimes I also asked myself why just enjoy the phone rather than flashing and tweaking it. But actually I'm so addicted to it now. Checking forum everyday for tweaks and roms.
[HD2 General] slo_mo:
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Before jumping in to HTC HD2 I used an iPhone 3G. Yes it was fun it got tons of apps and browsing the net was OK and used it to replace my mp3/mp4 player during long travels.

And then HD2 basically took over and I had no complains, WinMo really does not perform as smooth as iPhone OS but to say its unreliable is not true, I can use it everyday without any major issue, sometimes it lags yes but all is tolerable they're all momentary and it will get back to normal in just seconds. Plus I get to use my HD2 at work, compatible with my office files system.

Now almost all my friends and the whole country (it seems) have an iPhone 3GS and yes I can see them having a blast but I also pitty them for they are charging their phone almost every 2 hours they litteraly bring their charger to work. The things that makes the iPhone fun also drains its battery so bad.

Sometimes I do wanted to go back to my iPhone just to join the fun and hype but now it feels funny when I handle my iPhone it feels small.

You do must think it over because after tou use the HD2 all other phone out there will look tiny. Which ever phone you choose enjoy it, it all depend on your needs and which features you want to sacrifice.:D

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[HD2 General] madindehead:
I had an Xperia X1 before my HD2. I loved it for a month, then I hated it. It was so slow. Don't get me wrong, it's still a great phone. Just not for what I want.

The HD2 however. Wow. Nothing has annoyed me about it yet. And I've had since November last year!
[General Questions and Answers] lou0611:
Which is better, I have the HTC but looking to sell it for the Nexus.

Any suggestions.
[General Questions and Answers] Fallen Spartan:
Both use totally different os, i.e HD2 = WM, Nexus = Android

You'll need to decide which platform you want.

What about the htc desire as well?
[General Questions and Answers] denco7:
Right now I think the HD2 is the better phone hands down, but...............

If you need to look long term, WM 6.5 is the end of the road for the HD2, no WP7s.

The Nexus One is Googles flagship phone and will always be the first phone to get Android 2.5 ; 3.0 etc...etc...

Choice as I see it is phone for right now, or phone that will still be relevant next year.
[HD2 General] mastajest:
yes, you're still on HSPL.