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[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] amd_203:
I don't know why people can't understand this, seriously. 3G=H. H is short for HSDPA Which is... 3G. What Cyanogen did was a visual mod nothing more. Which I hate now because we end up with post like this. There's no difference and if there is it may be the new radio.

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[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] loggie1:
Thanks dj

H is enhanced 3G and H is faster than 3G and so 3G not equal to H. If H was displayed I expect to be able to get faster download speeds than if 3G was displayed and so I would prefer if H would be displayed when HSDPA available and 3G displayed when 3G available. I'm not sure if this can be the case.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jack_R1:
3G = UMTS connectivity available (probably WCDMA).

H = HSDPA/HSUPA/HSPA+ link up.

H comes up only on custom builds (but some european builds reported to show H - not sure about the credibility of such reports), and H comes up only when data transfer is initiated.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] loggie1:
Thanks Jack, I had noticed that behaviour on some builds alright but not yet on Froyo.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Meltus:
Whilst there is a difference between H and 3G the H icon will not show up on "official" builds.

It was just a graphical change made in some custom ROMs.

When your signal changes from 3G to H there will be no indication, but it will still happen.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] loggie1:
Thanks meltus
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] euki69:
hello all, I've installed froyo(paul's release) and I've executed

"1.adb shell 2.adb setinstalllocation 2" (thanks henchman). Move to SD card isn't greyed out anymore however once I press it, my phone seems to reboot and the app doesn't move to the SD card :c

I've tried several apps including free apps, and game apps not written by google (ex. google earth)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adamstributer:
I've got the same issue, still looking for an answer.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jblazea50:
1. adb devices --to make sure your device is recognized

2. adb remount

3. adb shell

4. setInstallLocation 2

5. exit

well, you can move to SD, but once you reboot, it takes about a minute or so for the apps (that are moved to SD) to start working

best option is to wait for the developers to give permission for move to SD for Froyo
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adamstributer:
I've run the setInstallLocation 2 command but when I try to move the apps, my phone restarts. Same when I try to install an app.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] euki69:
thank you for the help but I've done all that (even have 2.2 SDKs), even did it multiple times.. however my phone still goes to Boot animation after pressing move to sd card. :c
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] linuxluver:
In Froyo, don't you just move the apps to the sdcard via Menu -> Settings -> Applications -> {relevant app}?

In the app's settings (after you install it) you just touch "Move to SD". So you're moving them to sdcard one at a time. This way, you have the option of moving each - or any - app to sdcard (or not).

Why would Paul's version not support the Froyo way of doing it?

I have Froyo here on a stock N1. Just beginning at how to get it flashed onto an N1 currently running CM v5.0.6. Was wondering if it might even relock the bootloader. Ya neva know!
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] krabman:
It works fine on mine. All my apps downloaded automatically even though I have made absolutely sure that the setting to save them was unticked. Thats a different issue though. At any rate I toggled over to 2 and rebooted and then went through and moved them all over to sd one by one. After I did so I rebooted again and performance is fine. Same as on cm and there is no discernable difference in the apps performance whether on phone or sd. No issues whatsoever with it. I partitioned the drive to get rid of ext4 since I wouldnt need it anymore and then wiped everything before I flashed froyo. Not sure if either would be a factor.
[EVO 4G General] fazzy:
if you guys have any questions let me know

thanks

Faz
[EVO 4G General] digitaliceblast:
Take some pictures with the camera in bright light and also in low light to demonstrate the dual flash.
[EVO 4G General] fazzy:
One with the FLASH Lights and another one without

Its totally Blackout into my Kitchen I want to just test the power of the FLASH LIGHTs I took the Lowest resolution from the Camera

The Flash lights are really impressive full of powers

Both the Pics I took same Spot one with the Flash LED Enable another without
[EVO 4G General] chuckhriczko:
Agreed. Way fast and also agreed the flash makes the pictures look great in dark. In light they look amazing by themselves.
[EVO 4G General] IceCreaMan:
try playing a movie and see how it is
[EVO 4G General] apexi350z:
what channels are available on Sprint TV? are they very smooth, just like waitching regular tv?
[EVO 4G General] fazzy:
Yes they are to me coz I do have 4G but when I turn off my 4g then its just decent ..
[EVO 4G General] rockky:
what kinda speeds do you get on 3G?
[EVO 4G General] TheBiles:
Can you download the Speedtest.net app and post your 4G results?
[EVO 4G General] jeffla:
and 3g results, as I will spend at least a year on 3g.
[EVO 4G General] Hypeo:
Battery life

I'm interested on the battery life of the device.. how is it?
[EVO 4G General] fazzy:
honestly its not bad at all
[G1 Android Development] kylepotts:
Does anyone have a good guide to using and setting up the Android NDK? I have looked at all the official wikis, and they are not much help. I am trying to compile fennec to say the least it is frustrating.
[Nexus One General] innisdb:
Wanted to start this so we can get a better idea of what kind of battery life we will be seeing with 2.2! Please post your opinions so far and if you are rooted/stock and using stock kernel or the .34 kernel cyan posted. Hopefully we won't see much of a decrease do to JIT or any other new features
[Nexus One General] SiNJiN76:
Probably won't be that great the first couple of days...testing out Flash and everything...(watching Hulu right now).
[Nexus One General] dvdgorila:
hulu doesnt work for me. i get unsupported device. :(
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=686765

:)
[Nexus One General] innisdb:
i was on CM5.0.7t2, and as we all know, CM is known for draining more battery than the stock rom/enoms but so far im seeing same usage as CM which is ok but not great. next few days will be testing for all of us. hopefully we will have similiar usages not like before where some people are getting 40 hours and some 10 lol
[Nexus One General] ram130:
I dont if theres an improvement but I updated on a full battery. After I had 97% then killed the battery in like 5hours while at the Engadget Show lol
[Nexus One General] ImSoHungry:
is anyone running setcpu with FroYo? im already gettin horribad battery life...probably due to Hulu ;)
[Nexus One General] Wylker:
I may have done something wrong, but I'm on a rooted phone with kernel 2.6.32.9-27220-g328f560 and my phone went from 80% to 10% in about 4 hours just sitting in my pocket. The most I did was check some emails and some basic SMS.

Will monitor closer tomorrow by my battery usage shows something like 19% email. I wonder if my outlook push is doing something constantly that is hurting it.

Edit: it's also charging REALLY slowly. I have it connected to a USB port and its taken ~ 30 minutes to go from 14-16%.
[Nexus One General] Rusty!:
So far, mine is looking pretty good. Early days yet though.
[Nexus One General] K69:
Its better with froyo.

Had to charge every evening with CM 5.0.6 and pershoots kernel, now i get almost a half day more (with more "playing around").

I use setcpu (245/499 at sleep).
[Nexus One General] The Jones:
My battery is showing 99% after 3 hours switched on and with light usage. If true, that is amazing! More likely something is not quite right. I am using the .34 UV kernel from persionsown he posted on twitter....
[Nexus One General] Sindroid:
The Jones.. gotta try that Kernel..
[Nexus One General] The Jones:
If I believed that it were a true reflection of battery use and not a mis-report of some sort, I would be shouting about it a lot louder!!
[Nexus One General] audiobastard:
i streamed about 1.5 hours of video via qik (uploading not DLing). Still have 60% battery left. I say that's an improvement. ;) Rooted modaco froyo
[Nexus One General] wmm:
I'm seeing what I think is significantly worse battery life since I installed Froyo. It's hard to say, though, because I've been playing around in ways that are different from my normal usage pattern (checking the market frequently for updated apps, for example). I was on stock 2.1update1 and now am on stock Froyo.
[Nexus One General] bluehaze:
Battery life is definitely better than Cyano/Modaco/Enomther but it is also worse than stock ERE27. Can definitely make it through a day still though on moderate/slightly heavy use with Froyo something I can't do with Cyan/Modaco/Enom...and this is way faster and more fun than any rom i've had previously so no complaints from me.
[Nexus One General] Sindroid:
Well I was running cyan 5.0.7 and it lasted me longer than this I have now, which is Paul's Froyo.. but since my wi-fi finally stays on I wont revert.

Question: can I still install older custom kernels on froyo???. Want to try...
[Nexus One General] DDM123:
My battery died sometime last night, and I had gone to bed with it 70% charged. Prior to Froyo, I was on CM 5.0.6 and usually using intersectraven's 925mv kernels, and I would lose about 1.2% per hour while idling.

I'm not blaming Froyo yet, since it could have been an app screwing around. However, the battery usage page didn't show anything out of the ordinary. It will take some more testing before I ditch Froyo until an update is released.

BTW, battery usage while actually using the phone seems to be about the same.
[Nexus One General] timothydonohue:
my battery life was phenomenal today. i can't give percentage, because i haven't put on a battery widget (or many widgets at all, tbh), but stock froyo treated me well. was above 80% (guessing by icon) when i left work after 8 hours, some hulu, some wifi, some texting, some phone calls. not exactly heavy usage, but not just idle either.
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
Check out Battery Indicator http://www.cyrket.com/p/android/com.darshancomputing.BatteryIndicator/

Great and extremely simple app. I've been using it for months. (And it doesn't drain battery either.)
[Nexus One General] carlsbl:
Troubleshooting battery life issues....

My battery life appeared to vastly improve after I upgraded to Froyo, but it's not the OS that improved my battery life. What caused it was being more aware of what was draining my battery and it really got down to three things. The display was the worse by far. The displays brightness set to high is a killer, running it at a high brightness when a lower brightness is adequate is a battery drainer. There are many widgets to monitor and quickly change screen brightness. If the widget gives you “at a glance brightness status” you probably will manage it better. Place a brightness widget on your main screen. The display as we all know is the number 1 consumer of battery power. The amount it consumes can be seriously reduced with good management. I have accidently run mine at 100% and when I kicked it back to 25% (indoors) it was perfectly fine.

Popping back and forth from EDGE to 3G is a major killer too. If you're in a week 3G area turn off 3G, if you live in a world of Wi-Fi like most of us do these days you can probably leave it off most of the time. Get a widget to easily flip that switch too.

Lastly think carefully about what you have installed and how often and when it accesses the Internet. When I was running 2.1 I had WeatherBug Pro with 4 locations configured to update hourly. Bad move. I have one location set to hourly updates.

I had Beautiful Home widget installed and it was doing hourly updates. I have a few other apps that were hitting the Internet too. Not anymore.

I was out of town when 2.2 hit I was unable to reconfigure all the apps on my phone the first couple of days I ran Froyo and I was getting DOUBLE battery life. I was AMAZED!! Than as I added apps the battery life quickly dropped. Now I run WeatherBug Pro with one location, Facebook, and Twitter as the only apps that hit the net all the time, Wifi and GPS on, (I think the people that say GPS takes up a lot of juice would be hard pressed to prove it.), and I think Wifi saves battery because it lowers 3G traffic.

Those of you that have bad battery life, remove ALL apps that hit the ‘Net for a day or two. Make sure you get all of them, or do a device reset. Run your Nexus a day or two with the stock ROM to get an idea of what the phone is natively capable of doing. Then slowly add apps. Judge the impact of each app. Those of you that get a phone out of the box charge it and load a couple dozen apps and then complain about batter life need to put down the crack pipe and get real.

If you have loaded Internet accessing apps on your Nexus and you’re getting bad battery life you need to at least take into consideration the apps you have loaded. Dim that screen. If you’re in a bad 3G area considering throttling that back a little too. I think you’ll see serious improvement.
[Nexus One General] sarsh11:
Nope, just for the sake of this discussion I reset my phone and after charging till 100% I now lost 34% charge in exactly 1h out of which the display was on for 34 minutes. I have zero third party applications and I am still loosing charge. Its not a faulty battery as I bought an additional paiir from eBay..the ones that come with a USB adapter.

So none of those theories seem to answer my problem. Could anyone tell me what the best course of action would be, or maybe someone else from India could tell me what radio they are using? Also if I did want to send my phone to the US claiming faulty hardware..would I have any luck? Thanks.
[Nexus One General] mark925:
I had horrendous battery life... about 6-7 hours on Froyo. Last night I implemented the GSM-PRL fix. I charged the battery completely and after 11 hours I'm down to 50%.

Very, very happy. :D
[Nexus One General] vegetaleb:
So HTC has inverted by accident GSM PRL with GSM Only?

Because me too since the gsm prl trick the battery is better and surelly more stable
[Nexus One General] NeoS:
I used to need to recharge every day on Sense. Now i'm running Froyo for one day and still have 47% battery laft after 20 hours. Now that's improvement.

Also, I've set the screen to sleep after 15 secs, trimmed down auto sync options such as gmail and weather to once or twice a day. If I really want to check it, I'll do it manually.

Still, I got my Blackstone back last week and it stunned me to see that it's battery lasts twice as long! I'm afraid the Snapdragon chipset isn't as conservative as Qualcomm advertised...
[Nexus One General] DMaverick50:
stupid question but here it goes: i have 2 N1's, would i need to run the gsm fix on both?
[Nexus One General] mark925:
It appears that the N1 is set to WCDMA preferred by default (which is what mine was set at).

I'm now at 13 hours and down to 39%.

I'd check both to see what they're currently set at and then apply if needed.
[Nexus One General] DMaverick50:
On the power control widget I always have sync checked. What are the ramifications of this?

Is it a battery hog?

And what exactly does it sync?

In settings I have sync checked but I don't know how that's related to the widget sync if at all...
[Nexus One General] :
Say good bye to your loved ones, you just activated the death wish button.
[Nexus One General] xXJay_RXx:
i have intersectravens kernel on mine n i see now improvement at all. is flashing this kernel above it safe? or do i have to do a full wipe? i mean its only been 58m since my last unplug n im already down to 77% with light-moderate usage :confused:
[Nexus One General] DMaverick50:
Lol, in that case I don't even want to know what the button does that looks like the sun
[Nexus One General] modidlee:
+1

Before Froyo i was getting about 14hrs using Cyan's ROM's. Since Froyo I immediately noticed better battery life. Then decided to leave WiFi on while at home and my battery lasted close to a day and a half :eek: If you're ever in a WiFi area (especially at home) USE IT. I think one of the reasons WiFi helps the battery is because 'Net-using activities are done quicker.
[Nexus One General] tjp888:
So, the question is - what is your setting for WiFi when the phone is in sleep mode? Do you have it set to keep the WiFi on, or off?
[Nexus One General] Raymond77:
2nd time, 48 hours on a single charge, with Paul O'Brien's Froyo.

Easily the best ROM I've had to date, battery wise, and to be honest I'm not missing the Cyanogen mods at all. :D
[Nexus One General] wmm:
Just as another data point, I went for a one-hour run this afternoon, streaming Pandora over bluetooth headphones and using GPS Tracker to update my position every 30 seconds. That used about 30% of my battery (low 90's to 63%). That seems reasonable to me for running the GPS, bluetooth, and 3G continuously for an hour that way. I have everything stock Froyo early release.
[Nexus One General] ram130:
Yea battery life is definitely better..some how Froyo has re-calibrated the battery..after 16h 39m hours I am at 14%, left it on stand by for 6 hours...made a 1hr 36mins and used the phone for 1hr 46mins according to the display timer.

Impressive, considering I'm inside for most of it and getting 0-3 bar 3G signal.

Is this with 3G or EDGE on? I got mine on WCDMA only.
[Nexus One General] nutcracker33:
i just recently got the 2.2 update, from the "fool proof" thread

i was running CM before that, I notice that 2.2 uses more battery than CM

my battery wont even last a day, like right now, i only got 18% left with 10H, usage

maybe i should try Paul's rom
[Nexus One General] t0ol:
whats that app?
[Nexus One General] ram130:
It not a app. It's built right into the phone. It's in settings, about phone, battery use.
[Nexus One General] t0ol:
oh lol tnx =)
[Nexus One General] houzuoguo:
so I'm using a customized 2.2 system.. sorry i'm a new user so still can't post link~

I got my nexus one in March, and later tried cm5.0.5,5.0.6, seems like they drain more battery than stock rom, but was still ok, it could last about 1 and half days for my usage(mainly browsing internet &social networking, almost no calls nor sms)

these days tried the customized 2.2 froyo, so far battery seems draining as the same speed as using cm 5.0.6, but system runs faster so actually efficiency of system is improved :)
[Nexus One General] lasombra79:
Same for me with DeFroST 1.8 on Desire

Battery life drops a lot faster with froyo than with original ROM (Android 2.1). Charging is also very slow.
[Nexus One General] shaunm1989:
So how does changing from WCDMA Preferred to GSM AUTO (PRL) supposedly give people so much more battery life?
[Nexus One General] DDM123:
I've been getting great battery life recently on Froyo FRF85B Kang-o-Rama.

Juiceplotter says I left my phone alone last night from 8pm to 10am.

8pm last night it was at 95%, this morning it was at 88% so a loss of only 0.5% per hour. Phone is overclocked to 1113Mhz, kernel is 2.6.34-800mV-CFS-OC-Monks-070110 Wifi was connected and set to never sleep.

Hopefully my battery is calibrated correctly.
[Nexus One General] bigmout:
While I agree the display is a battery hog, I actually wonder if brightness is really the culprit. I've heard that the touchscreen is the most battery-intensive aspect, meaning the more you touch your screen, the greater the drain will be. I always set my brightness to auto (and thus have no problem seeing the screen outdoors) but haven't noticed a huge drain.
[Nexus One General] xManMythLegend:
Im getting very good battery life on RC20.

Eager to see and try a Foro based Cyn Rom but battery life has always been suspect after 5.05 for me. Im hoping that was a direct result of Helix launcher not anything else.
[Nexus One General] shaunm1989:
Well today i tested mine on GSM AUTO (PRL)

With about

2-3 hours of music

1 hour of browsing,

10 mins in phone calls

about 10 sms's

5 Song transfers over Bluetooth,

Wifi tether hotspot on for about 20 mins

2 videos in youtube

14% of time out of coverage

i got to 9 hours 20 mins unplugged with 23% left

is that good or considered below average?
[Nexus One General] cpm:
I'm now getting good battery life, well better than before anyhow. About 8/9 hours on 3g and 5 hours on wifi and about 15/10% left before charging. Includes about 2-3hrs screen on. A few things have improved battery life for me..

The HTC recommended power bump

Use WCDMA Only

WiFi sleep policy set to Never (keeps 3g connection off)

Removed widgets

Set most updates to manual (gmail sync on though)

Use "Quick Settings" from market to minimise screen brightness indoors (auto when outdoors)

Perhaps Android 2.2 FRF91 has helped (stock unrooted)

Avoid streaming music over 3G

Pure black wallpaper

Use black apps/themes where possible e.g. Twicca

Perhaps there's no single solution. Using a combination of "best practice" power saving methods all adds up and helps extend daily battery life.
[Nexus One General] wraithevolution:
I was getting 3+ days out of my battery before Froyo; mostly on 2G with moderate usage. After Froyo, my battery life dropped quite a bit. I couldn't get to 2 days even with little usage. The other day I checked my battery usage for the first time in a long time and found that "Just Compass" was absolutely killing my battery, far more than display. This didn't make sense as I wasn't using it and hadnt in a while. I checked my tasks and it wasnt running. I tried force closing it and couldn't because it wasn't running. After a re-charge and re-boot, my battery was still draining. A quick check again said Just Compass was the culprit. So I uninstalled it and now my battery is running strong again. Just so weird, it really makes no sense at all. A program that's not running was the bad guy.
[Nexus One General] kindiboy:
Would you please tell me what is the procedure ?:D
[Nexus One General] Ryjabo:
12h 37m 46s since unplugged and I'm at 78%

Normal daily use. Lots of texting, Twittering, Google Talk, and whatnot.

800mV kernel @ 806mhz. No performance difference. Insanely good battery life.
[Nexus One General] cpm:
From http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=7105789&postcount=129

1.) Please connect the phone to the charger with the phone powered on, and allow the phone to charge until the notification LED is green, indicating the device is fully charged.

2.) Disconnect the phone from the charger, and power it off.

3.) Reconnect the phone to the charger with the phone powered off, and allow the phone to charge until the notification LED is green.

4.) Disconnect the phone from the charger and power it on.

5.) Once the phone is powered completely on, power it off again and reconnect it to the charger until the notification LED is green.

6.) Wipe battery stats in recovery.

7.) Disconnect the phone, power it on, and use it.
[Nexus One General] zok-star:
same here!! in a sapce of 30min i lost 7%

And this is with screen brightness on auto (at the time was in my room and screen was pretty low)
[Nexus One General] khaytsus:
Green != Fully charged, it goes green at 90%.
[Nexus One General] stuff:
I believe this power bump is actually all in most of the user's heads

HTC recommends charge the phone while it's turned on, then when it reaches about 90%, turn it off and charge it to 100%. You have no way of knowing when it reaches 100%. So I suggest leaving it on the charger for an hour or so.

This is so the battery can actually get it 100% fullness. When it's plugged in, at 99-100% charge, it's hardly even getting charged, since it's pumping power out cause the phone is turned on.

BASICALLY what they are suggesting is what every phone manufacturer suggests when you first receive your phone. DO NOT USE IT OR POWER IT ON, AND CHARGE IT TO 100% WITH IT TURNED OFF TO ENSURE THE BATTERY RECEIVES 100% CHARGE.