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[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
i should clarify, that picture he posted is different than what most of us have. i can actually see my entire notification bar on an all white screen, from dead pixel detect app for example. i can see my alarm clock icon, even the PM from the AM/PM clock on the right. its permanently burnt in, or pixel degradation, or whatever you want to call it. i can literally see my notification bar completely.

if anyone reads that PDF link posted, on page 20, the technical term is called "image sticking". the entire PDF teaches how to design UI for amoled screens to avoid this issue, and specifically shows elements of UI examples how not to leave part of a menu in the same location, and what colors to not use etc. this is obviously a well known issue with amoled technology as that PDF clearly shows.

my burn in existed less than a month after i bought my phone, brand new. i guess that's all it takes. if you read the google forums, someone even sent his phone in for warranty repair, new screen, and within a month the burn in returned.

the pixels on amoled screens degrade at different rates for each color, blue dying the quickest. i dont see how else it could be more clear, you have to read this entire thread perhaps.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] goTouch:
I agree. Maybe AMOLED is not ready yet. It's like plasma and its drawbacks.

LCD is old and very mature.

What is the oldest amoled phone in the market? I would like to know opinions of people who uses amoled phones for more than 1-2 years.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mtl171:
i think samsung released the first oled phone in 2009 though not really sure.

seeing the seriousness of the problem feel as if i should hold off my purchase(chose it over the iphone 4). just wondering but wouldn't it be a better idea to just exercise the warranty at 11 months and get a replacement given that rooting essentially kills your warranty(unless you can reflash the original recovery image and lock the bootloader ?)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
Yes that's what some people are doing, just repair at 11 months. But yo are forgetting, this is only a problem if you use the stock white bar. Just use an all black color and you have no problem. No burn in. :-)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mtl171:
but then i would have to root xD and lose mah warranty. however i read elsewhere they don't really care if its a hardware defect(like a dead screen). kind f like the white bar. to change it would i have to get an entirely new theme(wish cyanogen had the option of changing it)?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
Ha ha I know, how ironic. However you can now root your phone without unlocking the boot loader, so no more voiding the warranty. Of course many people say HTC honors the warranty even with unlocked boot loader.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maxh:
I've read the thread and understand burn in, etc. I believe that you have burn in based on your description. I've had my phone since March, I use it a lot, still using the white notification bar, and I still don't have burn in. This has made me wonder if it is less common than this thread would suggest, especially with people posting pics of what they think is burn in when it's actually not.

I think there are significant differences in the screens out there. The nexus one I had before getting it replaced with my current one had a screen that looked way different. The colors were not right. I'd bet whoever ended up with that one after HTC refurbished it and sent it out may very well be dealing with burn in right now.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] productofusa:
+1, faint, but its there, I'm planning on rooting when CM6 becomes final but crap whats the downside? If I decide to send it back to HTC at 11 months? They gonna charge me $$ :eek:
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
Just read 2 posts up for your answer. HTC will fix it for free.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
Yeah I got mine in march too, by April I noticed the faded pixels. I have a hard time thinking that not all nexus phones have this problem based on that pdf file posted. According to that its a fundamental characteristic of amoled technology. If each color pixel degrades at different rates, and a white bar static image never moves, then its easy to see why all nexus screens would get the burn in. Depending on how heavy you use the phone of course. I use my phone like crazy.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] productofusa:
Actually I did read the whole post, my concern (most likely not warranted) is that HTC is still feeling as generous 9 months from now. :)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mtl171:
true. but its not as if google will be releasing a new phone soon.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] goTouch:
I opened a Feature Request on google code android asking for the possibility to change notification bar color.

Please, make comment on the reported issue.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] civicvx94:
holy ****..after seeing this thread I loaded up a white page and put it in landscape, sure as hell have imprints from battery indicator, the task killer icon, and "pm" for the time are all slightly visable..pretty annoyed.

I've had mine since release..jan 5th or whatever..

I wonder how HTC will do with having an unlocked bootloader-so no warranty...my power button is also screwed up..ugh I wish the Evo was on T-Mobile so I could get a new phone! I guess I'll be calling HTC customer service..anyone have that number?lol
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mtl171:
i heard/read that htc is pretty lenient when it comes to replacements involving hardware. just don't kill your radio.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ojiikun:
Interestingly, this may not be burn-in. I suspect it's more likely a manufacturing defect.

I got my original N1 on day one via pre-order. It's screen was perfect. About a month ago, I started having radio problems, so I exchanged it for a new one under warranty. The replacement had a really awful band at the top of the screen from the moment I powered it on. I immedately sent it back so they could send me yet a third one. Just this week I got the replacement for the replacement and it, too has the band at the top. This one isn't as pronounced as the 2nd phone was, but it's also not perfect like the 1st one was. I am so sick of doing the exchange process, I'm just going to keep this phone and ignore it.

Needless to say, I think it's a manufacturing issue on the newer hardware. Either that or they're doing warranty replacements with used/refurb screens.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
I thought about that because it seems to have happened to quick in a lot of cases. But then I remember seeing Nokia and other manufacturing assembly lines, and the power on every device, connect it up, load the software, then test. I can't imagine that process would take hours. But for the sake of argumentjdtp say it does, they could be causing this damage to majority of nexus units right out of the gate.

The thing is incredible users have posted the same thing, and that phone has identical screen as the nexus.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mtl171:
i thought the droid incredible had an lcd screen...
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
Nope, incredible has identical screen as the nexus. HTC desire does as well. All 3 have the 3.7 inch amoled Samsung screen with pentile sub pixel layout.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] civicvx94:
So should I just give them a call, explain the hardware issues and that I have an unlocked bootloader and see what they say? Or is there another way to go about this? I've never had to deal with this sorta thing before...
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
Is it really bad where you want to get it repaired? I just don't feel like going thru the process and risk possibly getting back a different phone with an extra issue ha ha.

If you do, I probably wouldn't mention anything about the unlocked boot loader. Just see if they ignore it, and deal with it if/when it comes up. I called tech support just to see and they of course had never heard of any problems like this.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kpennett:
I have had my nexus one since January & I just about a week ago noticed it...

Still pretty faint & doesn't obstruct anything, "video & such"

Disappointed, to say the least.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] negroplasty:
A good app to display a bright white covering the whole screen is Flashlight by Notes (Dev). Allows you to change brightness and color.

On a side note, I feel sorry for those who don't have an LED and have to resort to this app as their only flashlight.

I love my N1.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] trickinit:
I'm in the exact same boat. I got my original N1 on launch day and never noticed an issue with burn in. My power button was recently having issues though, so I ordered a replacement which just came today. All it took was viewing the web browser in landscape mode to notice a slightly greenish band along the side. I could easily make out the letters "PM" and see the signal bars and battery gauge. Looking even closer I was able to see the time that was burnt into the screen! It says "3:33 PM", which I find really odd. I don't see how a specific time could have been displayed on the screen for long enough to cause this kind of damage. I can also see the little lightning bolt in the battery image indicating that the phone was charging at the time.

I've read this entire thread and most people say that's it's just a slight issue. I think that mine's probably a lot worse as I'm able to make out some pretty significant detail. I'm planning on calling HTC tomorrow, but I am pretty worried that another replacement phone will just have the same issue. Maybe I can ask for one of the new "Super LCD" models. ;)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] midnightslide:
I have the same problem as well. The notification bar burned into my screen, so if I am using any app or watching any movie with a very light color tone, I can clearly see the bar, signal, and clock burnt-in. I am also going to be calling HTC about this one. Hopefully they will make things right.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SBS_:
I've posted in this thread before and now I've had my N1 for 8-9 months and used the screen on full brightness the whole time. I just tested a flashlight app to see if I could seen any burn-in and it's still not any worse than it was when I posted in this thread back in late May. It's so faint I literally have to hold the phone 1 inch from my face to see any of it.

Weird that other people should have a much more pronounced burn-in really. Has to be said that I changed to a black status bar about a month ago, maybe it stopped it from getting worse or even made it better.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] trickinit:
I did another warranty exchange, and the replacement had the same problem! It's on its way back now, and I'll have to order another one when they receive it. Needless to say, this is getting kind of ridiculous. I've already gone through 3 defective phones now.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GldRush98:
I've had my N1 for ~5 months now and today while playing Angry Birds I noticed the status bar burn in. Definitely not happy about this. From what I read on Wiki, with Amoled screens, burn in is permanent.

To me it is more visible on color screens than pure white.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
Everyone should go read page 21 of that pdf file I posted in this thread a few months back. It explains all about the burn in on amoled screens and why its happening.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
there's really no reason to do a warranty exchange, as people have reported their phone has this problem less than 1 month old. the only time i would do a warranty exchange is if you are going to use an all black notification bar. that's the only way to fix/prevent/avoid this issue. i've since been using all black bar, and my burn in is pretty much almost gone now. its certainly barely noticeable compared to before. i imagine over the months, the other pixels have now degraded to match the accelerated bar area pixels, so it evened out. but if anyone continues to use the white bar, your problem will continue and never go away, only get worse. only solution is to use a phone without an amoled screen, or use a non android phone, or use an android phone that hides the bar (launcher pro) or a black theme.

otherwise you will just be exchanging forever.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] huat138:
i just registered myself just to reply to this thread. My N1 suffered the same problem a few months back and now its getting very worst and the notification area is very visible on a light colour background. I got the phone since launch date and tried communicating with local htc office and it seems I can't do device swap due to this problem.

Overall, a very bad experience with htc product. I can't attached the picture of my screen because I'm a new user.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] philipkoester:
I've had mine 5 months and seeing more than faint...it stands out in portrait typing text messages. Its in the same spot as mentioned and getting worse!
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] choor:
This is a photo how a screen looks like after one year:
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
mine would have easily been that bad but i switched to a pure black notification bar after the first month! thanks goodness i did that, your burn-in looks pretty bad:eek:.

i wonder if this had anything to do with gingerbread switching to a black notification bar...
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rusty!:
Holy crap, this is mine after 11 months:

I'd warranty that ***** while you still can.

EDIT: Better (much better) picture
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mkrmec:
I don't have any burn-in. I did have stock white notification bar for quite a long time but I recently changed to black on CM6
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jm1999:
This happend to me, faded pixels the size of notification bar. Sent my phone in rooted with amon ra running miui. They replaced my screen no problem. Got it back in a week.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maxh:
I still don't have burn in and I'm still using the white notification bar. Guess I'm just lucky.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rossvtaylor:
I got your old phone...

I'm guessing I got one of these as a replacement I just received today, for an unrelated (lint) warranty issue. I wasn't aware of the "burn in" issue until now. On this refurb phone it's so visible that I noticed it right away in landscape position and I can see the signal bars, the time, PM and what looks like the old G icon. Of course, I turned here for my search and found this thread.

Since my previous almost-year-old Nexus One didn't have this at all, even with the stock white notification bar (until the recent Gingerbread update), I presume that some phones are more prone to this than others. I never used automatic brightness and wasn't aware that this was a "hazard"...

Ross
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] haturaya:
That's the weakness of AMOLEd screen. It degrades over time, especially when it 'stuck' with same colour (i.e. the white notification bar). I've change my N1 to SLCD one due to this issue as well.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sirjoeyg:
Horror stories?!!! HTC has been great with me. I've had several exchanges (one for minor burn in) and they've always taken care of me promptly and friendly. I hope to stick with HTC from here on out for all my mobile needs.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
i'm thinking of swapping my nexus one from amoled to an slcd screen. how exactly did you do it? problems with it? is the battery life much better afterwards?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] haturaya:
Simple, I just buy another 2nd hand N1 (SLCD) and after using both for 2 weeks (to decide), I've sold my AMOLED with same price of N1 SLCD that I bought earlier. Sort of like 'free' swap.

SLCD better when viewing lots of text (browsing). No funny & irritating pentile effect. Crisp text rendering for SLCD.

As for battery life. Based on my usage pattern (ligth user with 2-3 call, less than 5 texting, reading a couple of emails and 30-45mins browsing a day via wifi)... no different at all compared to AMOLED one. Still manage to run for 2 days without charging.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
I can't do that because I use an ATT nexus one and they don't exist in The slcd version. So I need to know if its possible for me to buy the slcd screen on ebay and pop it in my phone.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] adam79:
does the email application have to be running for auto-detection? also, is there a way to delete emails in the trash folder without them reloading (and keep them on the server)?

thanks,

adam
[Desire General] xxnoelziexx:
HTC Desire arrived today first impressions were this is one cool piece of kit. HTC did well with the looks of the phone and screen is fantastic.

Setup the device and then made a call and I have to say I was not impressed at all. There is a constant hissing sound throughout the call. Seems like the other person was at a sea side, The only other way I can describe it, if you was to hold a shell to your ear that distinctive sound. I have since made a few more calls and it is continuing even tried a hard reset. Tried 2 operators T-Mobile & Vodafone as the phone was bought sim free it is a phone fault. I never had this with any of my old HTC devices HD2 or TP2.

How is everyone here.

I have done some searching around the internet and can see a few posts relating to the same issue.
[Desire General] Eugene's Mac:
I have had a similar problem that lasted a day. I first thought it to be the speaker you put your ear to for calls, but when changing to the back speaker in loadspeaker, it was still there. This was clearly linked to the call and not the 2x hardware speakers. I put it down to a local network problem. Hope that was all. Many networks share towers in some areas. Could possibly still be network?:confused:
[Desire General] xxnoelziexx:
That's what I thought at first it could be an operator problem, but I have tested 3 network providers in london and surrey. 02,Vodafone & Tmobile and they all have the same problem.

100% handset problem going to return it.
[Desire General] Rolo:
Hi. I'm having this problem now as well. Device has been fine for almost 5 months but has now I'm getting a constant hissing during calls.

I've discovered that it doesn't happen via a Bluetooth headset so most likely something on the speaker.

What do you reckon the chances are of getting this fixed/replaced under the warranty? Quite annoying to spend so much on a bit of kit and have it flake after 5 months.

Cheers.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jad011:
i cannot seem to find it on the sd card, where else can i find it ?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MotoMudder77:
Dont worry, its doesnt say anything worth keeping.

and you can find it on your HD if you DL to it, from the thread.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] daemondemise:
Is there a way to port JDownloader to android?
[Desire General] dazdaz:
Today I stumbled across booting into safe mode with the HTC Desire, simply start the phone and hold down the menu button.

What exactly is the safe mode on the Desire ?

And more interestingly what other options exist to make changes when it's booting. I think i heard that you can see the kernel output somehow, that would be nice...
[Desire Themes and Apps] Guitarfreak26:
Love this keyboard, i can actually text one handed! its a pleasure to use but when its finally released etc will anybody be able to mod it to include voice to text button? Thats the only thing i miss!
[Desire Themes and Apps] tembares:
Where did you get Swype?
[Desire Themes and Apps] kuailan:
I believe they are still in beta? and the beta program is finish?? However if you have rooted your device, think some of the custom ROM has the swype included in it? Otherwise just google it online.
[Desire Themes and Apps] huleboeren:
i like the idea

but its not available in my language yet and even though i wouldnt use the dictionaries it doesnt have the funny characters of my language like æ Æ, ø Ø and å Å :(

Sent from my HTC Desire using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[Desire Themes and Apps] setspeed:
How do i "Enter" to the next line down? In the place the enter key should be is a big smiley key?
[Desire Themes and Apps] setspeed:
I've just realised that the smiley key is only present in sms apps - when emailing or using talking Tapatalk then the enter key is present and correct. In the browser enter is replaced by a "go" key, so it seems the key down is dependent on what app is being used.

Is there some way to force Swype to show enter instead of smiley key when messaging?
[Desire Themes and Apps] watercool:
someone has a working beta supporting German language? My version stopped working exactly 9 minutes ago .. (beta period expired... since midnight)
[Desire Themes and Apps] th3:
Can't even get it to install with 15MB free. COmplains that the space is too low.
[Desire Themes and Apps] jonmall1441:
I was just wondering what version of swype you are using? And does it effect your multi touch controls on the desire? Thanks

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[Desire Themes and Apps] rolfd:
Mine stopped working last night too! It began to constantly force close, and give me a message that the trial has expired.
[Desire Themes and Apps] Shetlander:
I also got the message that the trial had expired but it still works fine today.

Edit - just replied to a text now and if I try to use the swype input method it stops but if I input each key individually it works.
[Desire Themes and Apps] Whiterin:
There are already swype alternatives on the market. SlideIt actually seems to work better then Swype did, at least for me.

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[Desire Themes and Apps] watercool:
slideIT looks awful, shapewriter is by far worse than swype :(

imo is the android keyboard better for key by key entry..
[Desire Themes and Apps] watercool:
ok, copied some graphics and the german dictionary to the new beta (renamed the german to english), delete the meta-inf, resign the apk and it works perfect :)
[Desire Themes and Apps] th3:
Same situation as mine... Takes up 12.6MB and isn't working either.

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[Desire Themes and Apps] andycted:
I've directly pushed an italian zdb.le into the data directory, replacing the spanish one and it works a beauty. However it's still saying english/spanish as languages, any way to change it ?

Also, I've tried to do what you did, without deleting the meta-inf and ended up saying installation failed... do you know why ?
[Desire Themes and Apps] watercool:
you have to sign the apk again

http://www.anddev.org/signing_your_apk-application_for_release_keytooljarsigner-t3069.html

i changed my keyboard colour to brown now, fits the desire better hehe

no idea how to change the tracer color (from blue to red or sthg like this) and how to say "german" instead of "espagnol" @ poupup.. can't find the correct file to edit.
[Desire Themes and Apps] andycted:
I think I signed it correctly, but it was the first time I did that... (it said no errors)...maybe the tools you linked are more appropriated, the once I used looked a lot simpler.

By the way, I've noticed that compared to the normal windows mobile version and maybe even the 'default' beta english dictionary, the keyboard crashed quite a bit, maybe once every 100 words, while using a very complex word. Guess it's more than normal but wondering if it's caused by the pushed dictionary (which I extracted from a windows mobile installation)
[Desire Themes and Apps] watercool:
The easier signing methods did not work for me too, only the one I linked to.