yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 General] srt4cab3:
Im the same way... I want to be able to customize it how I want! Sometimes I feel like I could develope apps better than the manufacturer themselves! lol But no not really... I'd have to teach myself first.
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
get started in the regular hd2 section 'themes and apps' thread. Co0kies home tabs and max manilla will probably be your first stops.

http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=535

dont worry that you have a tmous and not a regular hd2, its only roms and radios that know the difference between the phones.
[HD2 General] toreone:
MODS

Definitaley you have to get ahold of cookies home tab and editor. They are a must have!!! try this site.... http://hd2apps.blogspot.com/ make sure you read carefully before you install anything...it will help you from having to do a factory reset....
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Kastanie:
Last week I get a free Dopod T8388 from China Mobile, but unfortunately with a chinese original rom. I am a german guy and prefer english or german roms. I try to find any information about it here in the Forum, but cannot find anything. So I ask for some help, because the phone has a perfect hardware, and I want use it.

Dirk
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] hh93220:
It will be difficult as the machine must be hacked. Unfortunately, this model is only available in China domestic market and supporting TD-SCDMA. I do not think there will be some expert who can help.

Anyway, I am expecting...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Kastanie:
Thanks for your answer. It was clear for me that i must hack it before i can flash another rom. Maybe its possible to use a rom from the Touch HD ? An english version would be also good for me. I still hope someone can help me.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bluesky3502:
As I know it's distributed only in Chinese simplify.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] andour:
Have you got any ROM for this model? I have T8388+ (dual SIM) and my camera don't run. I look for "HiCamera" files...Thank you! Please write: jahodnik@seznam.cz
[Hero CDMA General] andyjbmiller:
came across this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1NjvTlvPLw

is this even possible or do you think this guy is full of ****?
[Hero CDMA General] regaw_leinad:
open this with the gallery
[Hero CDMA General] Jus10o:
Its either a theme or a picture and i think there is an app that puts a fake picture of iphone on the screen.

I also think one of the launchers in the market can be customized to look like iphone.

We wont ever have the operating system on our phone.

Iphones will have android because its open source.
[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
#1 iphone sucks and id never use it

#2 it's bull**** because i don't think the hero could run it and apple would make them pull it asap.

the only os id like ported is webos. :cool:
[Hero CDMA General] regaw_leinad:
i say everyone go to the vid and post how fake it is :p
[Hero CDMA General] Konikub:
notice how he does not use the software.....(or picture rather), lol.

....I think regaw is got it down, and it's just a picture put on the screen with our gallery or photos.
[Hero CDMA General] blulitespecial:
why would anyone want a hero with iphone OS?

.....or an iphone..
[Hero CDMA General] OsNaYa:
I think the app is called iPhoney.
[Hero CDMA General] Jus10o:
Lol i didnt no the name.. I just remember coming across one when I first got my phone. Some guy was charging $.99 for it and everyone was complaining because it was just a picture.
[Hero CDMA General] johnsongrantr:
you can skin android to look and act almost identical to the iphone, alot better than that crap video if you want with ahome + iphone theme + better keyboard + iphone better keyboard theme.... the resemblance should be illegal

if you're a hater of iphone, be a hater... haters gonna hate, I'm not a hater so I'm not gonna hate on you for being a hater... hater ;)
[Hero CDMA General] Austin3600:
Word... I hate the iPhone OS crap :-(

If I DID have an iPhone for some unfortunate reason (although I am extremely anti-apple and that's impossible) I would definitely be all over that Android OS on iPhone ;)
[Hero CDMA General] OsNaYa:
Here is the picture used.

http://i41.tinypic.com/2nt8wlg.png
[Hero CDMA General] thematrixkid17:
I used to do this with my touch pro all the time to fool kids. But I think someone should get a hold of those taskbar icons. I'll do an iPhone taskbar theme:D

I bet JsChiSurf could edit them XMLs to move the signal to the left and MAYBE (probably not) even center the time?
[Hero CDMA General] nebenezer:
ninelols I mean chars...
[Hero CDMA General] johnsongrantr:
ca-cawwwwwwwww
[Hero CDMA General] dirkyd3rk:
why would that lame guy even waste peoples times like that, what a loohooserrrr
[Hero CDMA General] rgildoss:
i dont understand the hard on for the IPHONE... i have 2 of them in my drawer and i have not touched them in over 6 months ... the only thing the IPHONE had that was any good was the IPOD function..everything else is crap ...i think that Android is a much better OS and IMO will be the OS of the world soon....i to would love to see webos ported as well ...

Iphone is dead ....
[Hero CDMA General] rootbeer001:
on the flip side.....apparently someone was able to get android running an an iphone.

http://www.androidcentral.com/how-run-android-iphone-2g
[Hero CDMA General] Kcarpenter:
I phone is not dead, just lost in a bar. :D
[Hero CDMA General] Kelvala:
Eh? Why would I want to downgrade my Hero? :confused:

:D *flamesuit on*
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Spooky+:
And now my phone has become a very cool paper weight..

I tried to install the r3a panel manager, but it didn't agree with the rest of my phone's contents, and led to a black screen with nothing but "error" in small red font on it. I no longer had a today screen, and my spb shell wasn't working anymore.

I then tried to remove the r3a panel manager, but still, i had the same screen!.. only now, I couldn't change panels..

I kept trying to fix it but downloading the panelmanager.exe file on these forums, but everytime i try to use it, my screen goes black.

I have no idea what's going on, and I would really appreciate some assistance.

Thank you.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 9761217:
The problem in software is very complicated,and the simple solution,I think,is "wipe device" then install what you want.I always do that as I met some tough problem in software.
[HD2 General] Snerd:
Great forum guys

Have had the HD2 for a few weeks now. Installed a number of the tweaks in other threads (especially cookies home tab) which has greatly improved the usability of the phone.

One minor irritation I've found is both the on screen "end call" and "end call" button end the call AND close the phone application, so to make a follow up call need to open the phone app again.

Would be great if the on screen "end call" didnt close the phone app, so you can make a second call. Then use the "end call" button if dont need to make more calls ... have best of both worlds.

Hopefully I havent inadvertently changed something

If there is a way to change it I would be most appreciative
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] gm112:
Recently, my Fuze's touchscreen gave up on me, refusing to register any form of input. Both in Android and Windows Mobile, this is the case. I assume the touchscreen is broken somehow as before it broke, it was misreading taps on a certain part of my screen(could've applied too much pressure on it at one point).

So.. I'm curious. Would it be better to buy a new touchscreen or go after a new phone? I'm still under my 2 year contract with AT&T(which is why I'm mad) and well, I don't have a lot of money. I don't trust myself with fixing the touchscreen either. However, if I must do it, I will..
[EVO 4G General] mrono:
Is there anyone else out there who can't wait to root this phone and get Sense off of it?
[EVO 4G General] johnsongrantr:
I went from liking it, to hating it, now I'm back to liking it agian, but that's just me.

Simple solution, disable it, if you can't disable it, get a homescreen replacement from the market. As for the other apps like the keyboards and messenger apps and stuff there's alternatives for those as well.

Other than modifying or adding internal background stuff (editing the kernel or low level services) I don't see any reason why you really need root anymore. At least not for my needs anyway.

I am a big fan of AOSP but that seems like it's the only advantage in my eyes to having root nowadays, everything else can be done with crafty market apps.

Talk to me agian after the next upgrade to android is all the rage, you will see me with my foot in my mouth for sure =P
[EVO 4G General] tempe38:
I can see myself turning off many of the gizmos and widgets in that Sense thing. Too much junk running.
[EVO 4G General] johnsongrantr:
I take it that you haven't played with the hero or anything like that?

go to a sprint store and try it out, finding ways to disable it is much easier than trying to add it in if you want it. Those that don't have it pre-installed want it, those that do have it want it gone.

The problem most people hated it was because it slowed down the hero, it runs at half the speed and half the ram approximately of the evo, it really shouldn't be a problem and it's just eye candy, and the benefits of having it outweigh the problem of it being on there by default. It's mainly just a grass is greener thing mostly.

The widgets can be easily removed from the home screen by a simple one time hold+drag.
[EVO 4G General] audscott:
I'm not the only one in these parts with an HD2, but I assure you WinMo 6.5(x) runs sense fast and smooth. If Android is as fast as I believe, sense will not be a deal breaker....or as previously stated, just turn it off.
[EVO 4G General] iamrobk:
No idea what you hate about it. What do you all think is running in the background that you're all so concerned about? The widgets? It's not like stock Android doesn't have them either.
[EVO 4G General] Coburn64:
@Topic Title

I love Sense UI ... :P
[EVO 4G General] mrmomoman:
I like it. It makes SENSE :)

I love how some quantify something they haven't experienced on the actual phone itself yet.

It's like saying I hate playing a 3D game that runs on a 2D graphics card with a slow experience and lag. WELL DUH!
[EVO 4G General] shep211:
I have the new sense ui on my nexus one and its 10x faster then wm version.
[EVO 4G General] tempe38:
Yeah, that's what I meant.
[EVO 4G General] Beards:
I'm with you on this... I too have an HD2 and it runs Sence as smooth as silk.

My Brother has the Desire and it too with Sence slides along very nicely.:)
[EVO 4G General] mrono:
I'm not saying I hate sense UI because when i've used it it ran slow or because i couldn't figure it out. I don't like it because of how it's layed out, the configuration of it does not fit me. If I can change it or disable it, I will be a happy person.
[EVO 4G General] chuckhriczko:
Personally I couldn't care less. Sense or no Sense. I think it looks nice and all but I'm a hacker bred from the Cyanogen camp. I love speed and Sense just slows things down. I am sure on a 1Ghz device with 512MB RAM it should run without any lag. I'm still an AOSP fan however and hope we don't run into the kernel issues with this device as we are with the Hero. On the Hero we are still running .27 or .29 for those who want the canmera. I feel ancient!
[EVO 4G General] Dan330:
I have the hero with Android 2.1 ROM

It has weaker hardware.. less memory.. slower CPU

I have sense and live wallpaper running at the same time

It is perfect.. smooth... fast.. beautiful.. everything works.

I can not imagine the evo having any issues with sense or any software!

I love sense and all it gives me
[EVO 4G General] johnsongrantr:
But stock 1.5 isn't exactly smooth, even the 2.1 isn't quite buttery smooth, the custom roms are, but I don't think with that much power behind it that it will be a problem, and just think what will happen when xda gets their hands on it ;)
[EVO 4G General] ARoiD:
hope the whole camp jump's on this one i prefer aosp over senseless anyday of the week i install the widgets i want on my device don't need htc or sprint's bloated ****gets taking up valuable memory space;)
[EVO 4G General] Aridon:
The reason sense slows things down is because they have been stuffing it on two year old devices with barely an acceptable amount of storage and ram. The new devices from the evo and incredible don't see these issues because the extra ten megs is nothing where on the regular hero makes a big difference as you start opening up more and more ****.

It will be a non issue on the evo. If you prefer asop all the more power to you I also like it but the largest complaints against sense are going to be obsolete soon enough now that devices actually have more horse power and memory.
[EVO 4G General] bobdude5:
i looooovvvee sense ui..had it on my g1, htc magic, hero, nexus one, and soon to be evo 4g :)
[EVO 4G General] ihakr:
AOSP

Lets hope one of the first custom roms is for AOSP. I am running an AOSP build on my hero and I LOVE it!
[EVO 4G General] dcmtnbkr:
I'm looking forward to it. I love it on my buddies hero. Just makes android that much better.
[EVO 4G General] Manicmobileaddict:
aosp

Is aosp the generic android? I think what I like about sense on winmo is how much info (especially when using battclock and wktask on 6.5.x) is available right before my eyes (better than right at my finertips).

If I could have android with its 7 screens with winmo's version of sense on the homescreen, that would be perfect. Only I wouldn't want to swipe to change screens because I would like cookies advanced home tab so I could swipe between appointments and tasks on the home screen or use the slider (with the retractable slider option) to change widgets.

Then use the pinch to leap (yes, I'm giving in to multitouch, a two handed operation) to change to the other screens.
[EVO 4G General] mrono:
Ok i'll admit, i'm worried about themes, and losing my favorites.
[EVO 4G General] johnsongrantr:
yes aosp = android open source project, it's what people call vanillia android.

Stock enclair comes with 3 homescreens, nexus launcher also rolled up in what people consider aosp has 5, 3rd party home screen replacements, to include cyanogen's modded nexus launcher have up to 7. You aren't restricted by anything other than what you want to do.

all that other stuff... um well that's all cool, I haven't messed with winmo in about 3 years so I'm not big on all that stuff, but I'm sure it's available, if not, i'm sure it's possible... there's alot of winmo converts in the android scene.

As far as the widget stuff, android market has a widget for just about anything form of information you can think of or would want. If it doesn't exist, it's not too hard to make your own if you have some programming skills.
[EVO 4G General] Manicmobileaddict:
Well, I did some assembly, basic and C in the 80's in school, but don't remember much. Do you know where I could see some home screen replacements/mods?
[EVO 4G General] TheBiles:
True that Sense is a bit of a resource hog on much weaker phones like the Hero, but I can't image it having ANY impact on the EVO, so I see no reason not to like it. It is very pretty, and it adds that little extra to Android.
[EVO 4G General] tamanaco:
This video shows that Sense UI can be turned on/off on the flight in the evo without rebooting. I understand that it might be taking up some memory, but out of the box if you don't like Sense UI you can turn it off and if you do you can turn it on.
[EVO 4G General] TheBiles:
This AGAIN!?

That is NOT turning off Sense! I repeat, this is NOT turning off Sense. Switching home launchers is not the same thing as removing a seriously integrated portion of the OS. People need to understand this.
[EVO 4G General] tamanaco:
Maybe I'm missing something... so help understand. Even if it's not being turned off... as you say... How many resources is it taking when is not running in the foreground? Does it take a lot of memory? Does it negatively affect performance? How much will this impact the average user? I don't believe Sense UI is a part of Android OS... isn't it just a UI that's bundled with the ROM.
[EVO 4G General] TheBiles:
What you are seeing on the homescreen is Rosie.apk (the Sense home) being replaced with launcher2.apk (the AOSP launcher). Sense is a user interface--not a home screen--created by HTC and integrated into the OS. Sure, Rosie.apk is PART of Sense, but it is not Sense itself. There are still a ton of HTC services running. In order to remove Sense you have to install an AOSP ROM or painfully remove it from the current ROM piece-by-piece. The EVO is such a powerful device that you will most likely not notice the difference between an AOSP ROM and a ROM with Sense. People are forgetting that we aren't stuck with our ancient Heroes any more. The EVO is an incredibly powerful device that will handle Sense like a beast.
[EVO 4G General] tamanaco:
I see... in essence what you're saying is that while the actual UI is not loaded (in the foreground), all the services (processes) that are used to support the functions of the HTC Sense UI are still running in the background. Turning it off does not kill the supporting processes.
[EVO 4G General] TheBiles:
Correct. And also when you are using a home app, you aren't using it unless you are actually on the home screen! It is like any other app that will go to sleep when you are in another app. This is why you see a delay with widgets updating when you exit an app and switch to the home.
[EVO 4G General] avalst:
But when you turn off Rosie not ALL of the services continue to run, correct? also since the generic android launcher is a much lighter weight app then Rosie you will free up ram by using it.
[EVO 4G General] TheBiles:
Yeah, but you're not going to be hurting for RAM with the EVO...
[EVO 4G General] zane78219:
looks like you just might be able to turn off sense, with a stock evo!!!

intomobile dot com/2010/05/17/to-sense-or-not-to-sense-sprint-htc-evo-4g-offers-option-to-disable-sense-ui.html
[EVO 4G General] TheBiles:
Dear god... This is the SAME DAMN STORY with the SAME DAMN MISCONCEPTION! Read the above posts and actually LEARN WHAT SENSE IS! I am so SICK of this rumor.
[EVO 4G General] johnsongrantr:
you need to calm down you understand what he's saying, senseUI homescreen and senseUI and sense all mean the same thing in my book and for anyone that doesn't specifically say aosp this is probably what they're referring to.

what kinda confuses me is when people refer to vanilla android, that does seem to cause confusion if you don't actually know the difference, they could mean the homescreen or the whole actual aosp... regardless it doesn't come close to aggravating me... just confusing

chill pill man... here take one

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but to that dude, yea you can turn off sense by clearing defaults just like you can with the hero and most of the other android devices out there... there's a couple out there you can't however.
[EVO 4G General] johnsongrantr:
widgets don't get loaded, if they're not loaded either with senseUI or vanillia android homescreen, not loaded is not loaded.

htc's backround services are loaded regardless of what you do, you would need to actually go in and remove those services with root permissions to actually stop or remove them. they are built into the htc framework, and control stuff like making calls, sms's mms's voicemails, keyboard etc etc etc... lots of stuff won't work if you blindly delete or stop those servies.

AOSP will not have those services either good or bad, (the good ones are the power management services) but it is the lightest weight rom you will find, least ram least services etc. This will be a difficult build and will probally take a while to do. If 2.2 hits aosp before it hits a compatible phone AOSP will most likely be the only way you will see 2.2 until a rom is ported.
[EVO 4G General] Phateless:
Me. I posted this same thread in the MT4G section. ;)
[EVO 4G General] tgruendler:
Holy shnikeys...way to open an OLD ASS THREAD!!!!
[EVO 4G General] Phateless:
lol sorry, didn't notice the date. It came up in the auto-search before posting feature.

My bad. Mods feel free to close or delete or what have you.
[EVO 4G General] TheBiles:
Oh, it's only 6 months old!
[EVO 4G General] imwillzillla:
Sense > Touch wiz. And that's putting it nicely.

A week ago I traded my Evo for a Samsung epic because I was foolish enough to buy into the whole "Epic is faster, prettier, better" crap and now i've flown back 5 months back in time waiting for Froyo to finally be released. The whole "color pops" on the Epic screen is basially null when you have to deal with blue tint. IF ANYONE OUT THERE IS CONSIDERING GETTING AN EPIC OVER AN EVO DO NOT, I REPEAD DO NOT DO IT. Especially if you're looking into custom roms and whatnot.

Okay, rant (not the sucky samsung one) over. Where was I? Oh yes... Sense is absolute heaven compared to touchwiz.
[EVO 4G General] TheBiles:
The Epic doesn't have custom ROMs yet? Or is the selection just extremely limited?
[EVO 4G General] -shift-:
long live aosp <3

edit:

just noticed how old this thread is LOL... carry on...
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NViouz:
I would like to use this Phone.apk file in this ROM.

Do I just unzip the ROM, replace the .apk, rezip the ROM, sign the .zip, and flash?

Is there only one Phone.apk file to replace?

Last thing I want is a paper-weight :)

Thanks!
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NViouz:
I just thought of this: could I just install the .apk via a file manager (as long as unknown sources are checked)?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] r3s-rt:
First, you're not going to brick your phone.

Second, I don't know how CSDI works. Try it and find out.

No. Maybe if you remount /system in read-write, even then it's probably easier to try it by just replacing and resigning.

I know in donut, you can just replace it without any problems (like other system apps depending on it). Don't know about anything else.

Edit:

There's what the thread says about installing it, have you tried? (Nandroid in case that ROM doesn't like it.)
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IronWolve:
Any 1.6 non-rack roms with JIT and speedhack?

Most I've tried to install either FC's or I don't see the improvement.

Thanks!
[Liquid S100 Themes and Apps] allen8586:
How to install app to sd card?
[Liquid S100 Themes and Apps] jpmve:
You can use the rom lcr 1.6 it's the best for acer liquid

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[Nexus One Themes and Apps] NexusWon:
I'd really like to have real, persistent copy and paste available throughout my Nexus One (not just on the few apps that allow a few text fields to have it). I hate to say it but the Apple Implimentation is pretty beautiful and simple. I wish there was something like this on Android (although you'd probably need root access, which I'm ok with if you can deliver the functionality). I'd pay for an app that can deliver this.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcruz13:
just purchased a sprint htc hero im wondering what are the advantages or disadvantages on changing the roms and can someone help me in chosing and installing a new rom
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] orris:
Themes. Tethering. Improve battery life and signal. Improve overall speed. New 2.1 features. And VARIETY! Just to name a few...
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Konikub:
The advantages are many...it's fun to see what other people come up with, exciting to find new features, cool to check out many different awesome themes....

Disavantages....on occasion you have to wipe going from one rom to the next (but that can be fun too) :)

.....what ROM to choose, that is going to be up to you and what you like in a ROM....from all the ones you test out on your HERO!!!! :)

Do some reading and ROM searches my friend, you'll be surprised at all the good stuff you find :):D:):D:)
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] orris:
And all the info you'll need is at the top of the forum.

Here -http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=618874

And here - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=618867