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[Desire Accessories] human75:
i am extremely happy with the battery my friend i will strongly recommend.i can use 2 days without charging with heavy usage.3g on,wifi on i even watched 1 episode true blood as well :D still 65% left in daily usage.
[Desire Accessories] norweger5:
After the battery swap, and what followed, my phone has auto sent some old sms messages again. Really annoying, but I think it's a one time thing. I'll wait a few days (5 charge ups), and than reinsall Opera Mobile, and hopefully the phone will be alright.
[Desire Accessories] fido77777:
the only thing i don't like in desire

its battery life!!
[Desire Accessories] XCharmed:
Mmmm.. thatone looks nice.. need to buy and test.. nopt that mush money.. 80$ around 500sek..

Ordered.. now just wait..
[Desire Accessories] bridgstfer:
RE: the external charger with 4AA batteries im not sure that the 4 x 2000mah batteries = 8000mah to charge my phone works. Dont you have to take the voltage into account as well and AA batts are 2000mah (you say) x 1.2v meaning each AA is only providing only approx 600mah x 3.7v the desire needs. So presumably 4 of these will provide about 2400mah of capacity for charging rather than 8000mah.

Note: No scientific knowledge was used in the above calculations :-)
[Desire Accessories] goofy584:
Mugen 3200mA for Desire

I have ordered the battery today and I will receive it normally end of June (out of stock for the moment). I will keep you informed.

:)
[Desire Accessories] cbanbury:
Made this last year for a cycling trip (1000 miles). Kept my phone running the whole time.

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/1XapOwbXdqAyQLR_UMJqqQ?feat=directlink

You only need to get 4.7V & about 1A to charge from what I remember, a few garden solar panels does the trick.

Only thing I had to do was link it to an old USB chip from a PC so that if the voltage drops below 4.7 it doesn't start draining power.

I challenge anyone to find a battery (for free) that keeps a phone going for 18 days non-stop :D
[Desire Accessories] jauhari:
I will waiting your updated ;)
[Desire Accessories] tuntang:
i find it strange when i hear this. what do you classify as moderate to heavy? it seems to me that if you use the phone as its supposed to, ie a smart phone meaning that you use email on it then it only lasts for a day at the max. If i use push mail, or 1/2 sync and its fully charged in the morning, by the evening it will be verging on flat out.
[Desire Accessories] agent.m:
Yep. I def think radio has something to do with it as well.
[Desire Accessories] jauhari:
Yes me too.. in Moderate use.. my battery 10% - 25% in evening. it's full charged in the morning (100%)

I still ask the user and not get any reply... :(
[Desire Accessories] bridgstfer:
mate that solar panel is amazing! What kind of sunlight did it need?|
[Desire Accessories] A|ex:
well i tried that Seidio 1600mAh now for over a week and have seen next to no difference at all and starting to wonder if the originaly 1400 is just as good.
[Desire Accessories] cbanbury:
On a really cloudy day it will only charge 20% or so. But in direct sunlight will charge in about half a day. I carry a spare battery & just charge the battery in a cradle.

Here's a pic of a it in use (though I'm using a commercial solar panel here...m8 had my one :P)

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/eAlnwnEbBVxNqfCgtwAyGPa5E7vPJxkCqsDVxpG4IDY?feat=directlink
[Desire Accessories] Barff1984:
I use it a lot at work, mostly games, e-mailing and texting and the batteries dead or nearly by lunch.

I don't believe anyone that says they get 2 days out of it as a moderate or heavy user. Maybe they don't regard usb charging as actually charging or maybe they think just looking at the home screen is moderate use.
[Desire Accessories] cbanbury:
Play around with automatic task killer, setCPU, overclock widget etc.

Atm I'm using automatic task killer (I know about 'android handling it by itself') to just kill apps that I don't use very often.

overclock widget seems to be working with ocuv kernel v12, & have processor set to 245/245Mhz in sleep & scaled down to 245/768 when awake.

...seems to keep my desire going. I just scale the processor up to 1.2Ghz if I need to watch flash videos etc.
[Desire Accessories] stingerpl:
Why are You using overclock widget when SetCPU has the funcionality built into its profiles ?
[Desire Accessories] cbanbury:
I have big problems with setCPU. Battery drain seems to be awful on it. I'm not sure whether it is the governor settings but overclock widget gives me more battery (y).

Have tried changing the on demand settings to increase battery life, but doesn't seem to improve things.

Btw have same drain if using setCPU on hero...this is just my personal experience & maybe I'm doing something wrong, but overclock widget works for me.

Anyway, point was to play around with cpu scaling & close things like 'voice search'...which otherwise runs constantly btw
[Desire Accessories] stingerpl:
This is a known issue. Don't use any widget from SetCPU. Set up your profile inside SetCPU and uninstall overclockwidget. You should have better results than running two.
[Desire Accessories] cbanbury:
Yeah I know about the issue with the widget. I never use the widget but still have trouble with setCPU

Lol don't worry I don't have two installed...that would be insane! Did you adjust the on demand settings at all? I tried everything with setCPU & just gave up in the end :(
[Desire Accessories] zkyevolved:
I'm totally willing to buy a larger battery :). I ordered my Desire today, and I can't wait to get it this weekend :D. But I am a very power hungry person. ( Very data intensive, tons of emails and instant messages). I can't wait for the mugen to come out.
[Desire Accessories] mister_r:
We got any results on that massive 3200mah Mugen battery yet? It seems legit and I would be willing to buy it too if it keeps its promise.

In the meantime I got a 4400mah external battery pack on ebay.

Hope it will be good. For intercontinental flights watching video esp. ;)
[Desire Accessories] kokkie:
Availability: This item is currently out of stock. If ordered now, it will be shipped on 14 June 2010.

$ 79.95

http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...8181-with-battery-cover-in-brown-3200mah.html
[Desire Accessories] pisonic:
Cool mugen 3200 batt. Waiting for field test report frm those who order it.

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Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire Accessories] al89nut:
It's F-Ugly from that picture
[Desire Accessories] zkyevolved:
I'll admit it's not AS sexy, but if it can get me 24 hours of my screen being on and 3g and everything updating! I'll get it :)
[Desire Accessories] Geeba:
Agree its a minger! :D

I'd like a battery with more oommph but want it to fit the existing case.... only read bad reports so far of low quality cells that are no better than the original one... anyone found any more?
[Desire Accessories] paulinozzy:
Bigger Battery

Hi, Mugen power, now make a 3.7v 3200mAh Lithium Ion battery for the Desire A8181. It`s a bit pricey but they do include a back case to accomodate the battery. Check it out!!
[Desire Accessories] goofy584:
mugen 3200

got it 2 days ago, today on 49% with Wifi, Mail, Facebook, Phone call .... (normal usage) and 35min GPS! Usage now exaclty 2 days and 2 hours = 49%!

Really good product

Best regards

Thomas :D
[Desire Accessories] cbanbury:
Don't suppose you could post pictures of how it looks/feels in the hand with the larger cover? Does it make it a problem for storing in pockets etc?

Thanks
[Desire Accessories] theloother:
Anyone tried one of these 10,000mah (allegedly)

http://cgi.ebay.ie/10000mAh-Externa...t=Video_Games_Accessories&hash=item1c1347f387
[Desire Accessories] shnizlon:
WOW this is soo cool !

Hope It's will work with HTC Desire :D
[Desire Accessories] goofy584:
mugen 3200

I will check if I have time this evening for photos. The backdoor adds 0,8 cm to your device (thickness). The Desire feels really good in the hand and today I'm on 4th day with 26% left (I dont switch off during the night). I can still use my leather case without problems. It is really a "must have" for Desire owners!

cu

Thomas ;)
[Desire Accessories] StuRoid:
Mugen Power extended battery for HTC Desire

Here you go guys, got to say I'm loving the look of this and want one pretty badly now...pity they out of stock :(

Ah bugger, was gonna post a ink to a video on Youtube for this battery but newbs not allowed. Guess you can search yourself then on their channel

Mugen Power extended battery for HTC Desire
[Desire Accessories] Tiger33:
Just looked at a video

looks very good to be honest

back cover doesnt seem too bad at all.

Those who are using this what are you comments so far?

battery life?

weight of phone?

how hot is the phone getting?

everything working as it should?
[Desire Accessories] raynerape:
I received my MUGEN 3200 mAh two days ago and can finally give it an objective review:

* Battery life for a raw/fresh battery is almost 48 hours with moderate or somewhat above moderate use. But the battery has bad calibration and it fully discharged on me while HTC Desire showed 29%. I suggest you always recharge at level 40-42% and not let it drop under 30% as most likely you'll fully discharge your battery and this damages it a tiny bit (but a tiny tiny bit).

* Phone weights close to 50% more but the added bulk is still within acceptable weight. It is comfortable to carry and almost comfortable to hold by your ear. Nothing you can't handle.

* The non-standard bulge on the back of the phone actually makes the phone WAY MUCH EASIER to hold in one hand. You no longer have to squeeze the phone in your other palm because you can place one finger on the upper end of the bulge and make sure it would not slip away in strange cases (car steering suddenly, etc.) Also, placing phone with the screen up will no longer make you fear the glass cover of the camera could scratch, because the bulge keeps the camera way up in the air.

* A disadvantage of the cover - it somewhat doesn't fit perfectly but holds just fine even is EASIER to remove, it is made of cheaper plastic that feels nice but not as nice as original cover, and there's no glass cover on the camera and the flash. This has one positive and one negative. Positive is that if the glass scratched, you'd be forced to remove it from the original cover, or change the cover. The negative is that this invites dust into the hole and you may have to clean your phone camera once 5-6 months.

* Phone is actually COOLER compared to OEM battery. I almost have no hotness in the battery compartment, with all hotness around the lower end of the phone. It could be due to less contact between cover and battery, but it is way more comfortable and nice to carry.

* Everything working as it should, although you should not trust HTC battery calibration from now on, and just recharge each 24 hours as before, feel safe when having to use phone 36-40 hours, and if usage is light it may work for 2 days. As you keep recharging your battery life will improve and may extend to 3 days with light usage.

To summarize, this is the best investment you can make in your phone. Some say it makes your phone "preggie", I say it makes it "on roids".
[Desire Accessories] Tiger33:
Sounds good

I'll check more reviews then think i'll invest in one ;-)
[Desire Accessories] A|ex:
Its just like the WM extended batteries with bigger back-side. Not many people care about looks if you have the additional power without having to remove the casing to swap batteries or charging all the time.

Mugen also do a 1600mah battery for the desire which is the same size so no big back-side
[Desire Accessories] A|ex:
eXpansys do a 2600 + cover which is different to the mugen back over

http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=201326
[Desire Accessories] zaki67:
The picture in expansys is not of the actual back cover it is for illustration only
[Desire Accessories] raynerape:
I would stay clear from this battery and cover as the cover would not fit dock stations like the MUGEN version.
[Desire Accessories] paprkut:
im gona agree with rayne the battery is definataly worth the investment, the battery lasts double if not triple the amount of time. i had a heavy day of using my wifi / internet making a few calls and the battery was still at 60ish %
[Desire Accessories] mercianary:
I wouldnt mind if my desire was twice as thick if it lasted a week. Someone should make a ridiculously large battery.
[Desire Accessories] pina_:
it's a shame that the mugen-battery doesnt have the silver cover... :(
[Desire Accessories] raynerape:
The bigger and non-standard the battery, the worse the calibration is. You don't want a battery that you never can be sure how long it'd last.
[Desire Accessories] mercianary:
Forget calibration. I'm gonna duct tape car battery to the back of my desire when I get home. It would last all year and I would have arms like Popeye lifting that thing to my ear!
[Desire Accessories] paprkut:
Hmnmm seems something isn't quite right, when I take it off charge its on 100% but then it jumps right down to 90%
[Desire Accessories] jonmall1441:
Seems to be an issue with the latest update. Froyo with sense out soon might unroot just to try out the official HTC update and should hopefully fix this issue :)
[Desire Accessories] moran679:
mugen's 3200 mah battery is recommended? what about expansys' 2600 mah?
[Desire Accessories] HorNet505:
I so, I think you dont fully use the phone as its meant to be.

If you really USE the features then you are happy if it lasts a day ;)
[Desire Accessories] HorNet505:
I wonder if there is already a bicycle dynamo converter on the market.

That would be cool for cycling trips :rolleyes:
[Desire Accessories] paprkut:
issue? see i thought it was just an issue with running the battery low / charging it to 100% and repeating, im running froyo and its the same problem.
[Desire Accessories] francis79:
so is there an issue with using the 3200mah battery?
[Desire Accessories] cbanbury:
Solar panels will give you more than a dynamo. A dynamo is only really good for powering a handful of LED's...& you have a whole screen full of the damn things.

Dynamo's also cause a lot of drag (can't get energy for nothing).

You could mod a standard bike dynamo in principle though. Just stick a multimeter over the output, you need 4-5V & about 1A. Then just cut a USB cable in half n job done!
[Desire Accessories] pina_:
just saw some pictures of a desire with the mugen-battery cover. It's awful and even really disgusting :(
[Desire Accessories] Kurai Kitsune:
Honestly tempted by the Portwapow external battery.

If I'm not on the go i could just plug this baby in to charge up. It claims to be able to recharge an iPhone twice from dead. 3400mAh

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PortaPow-USB-...rElectronics_Batteries_SM&hash=item335e96976b

edit: oh ya and they have a 5000mAh version. crazy
[Desire Accessories] paprkut:
Its not disgusting at all. Don't think there is any particular issue with the battery since a few people have posted problems on rooted desires. I being one
[Desire Accessories] :
Be careful with this PortaPow. I had one, and it packed in after 6 charges of my phone. It now refuses to charge up. Would recommend the Veho Pebble. 5000mAh and (so far) it's still working.
[Desire Accessories] twe69:
Does that say AC power charge or just USB when connected to the Desire? I ordered one becaues I thought the 950mah output would be beneficial. Thanks.
[Desire Accessories] Kurai Kitsune:
Excellent. Thanks dude :)
[Desire Accessories] cbanbury:
There seems to be a few extended batteries for the desire springing up now.

I just purchased one of these:

http://www.evertop.co.uk/p/1120795/...100-ba-s410-2500mah-with-free-back-cover.html

Not as much juice as the mugen power ones but I prefer the look of the back cover. There are some cheaper ones such as:

http://www.morpethmobiles.co.uk/proddetail.asp?prod=/AZK6/CMRNSN/_HT8181XL

Anyone had any experience with either of these?
[Desire Accessories] Chromys:
Did you have a pic of this battery (from evertop) inside a desire with back cover?
[Desire Accessories] twe69:
I emailed Morpethmobiles to see if they can provide more photos and dimensions. Notice the postage is free from them, maybe its a free return if I don't like it? Hmmm...
[Desire Accessories] zaki67:
I also think that it is a good trdae off,it the phone looks like this and lasts me a whole day of heavy usage i am in.better than charging it by noon,specially on weekends when i am outdoors and no PC or charger around.i I do not know why all the companies are going for the slim design for such powerful devices,i would love a desire that is a bit thicker but has the juice to last a full day while it is being used the way it was built to be used.
[Desire Accessories] twe69:
I got a reply from Morpethmobiles.co.uk

"Hi

Unfortunately we don’t have any additional images of the batteries at our disposal

Best Regards"

However they sell it on ebay and have a larger photo for you guys to check out, and its slightly cheaper than the previous like by 68p!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Extended-Battery-Replacement-HTC-Desire-2400mAh-UK-/360281523549
[Desire Accessories] twe69:
photos of that 2400mah battery from this forum:

http://androidforums.com/1145758-post246.html

But someone who has bought the battery and replied in that forum says:

"I wouldn't buy one, barely notice the difference and if anything the battery that came with it probably lasts longer.

I've had it a week now, charged it loads daily and have even drained it twice but it's not lasting longer then 4 hours with frequent use.

Not worth sacrificing the look of the phone for such a debatable improvement."
[Desire Accessories] Chromys:
Thx for the quick response and pics. The looks are a little better then the mugen but if i read the comments on the androidforum, it's a no go for me.
[Desire Accessories] paprkut:
The 3200mah from mugan seems the way to go, even the replacement back cover looks better.
[Desire Accessories] sco0by:
My cheap extended battery I got from eBay:

I detailed my experiences with it here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=730933
[Desire Accessories] DrHRH:
I agree. Just got mine yesterday. If you're bothered about aesthetics then don't even think about "fat" batteries, as they're always going to add thickness and change the looks of the phone.

So far so good in terms of performance although it's too early to say. I'll report back in a week or so when I can give a more useful and accurate representation.

I must say though - this is a phone for goodness sake so get a grip, why is anyone worried about "ugliness" and good looks? It's not a friggin future spouse!!

The peace of mind I get (hopefully) from not having to charge my phone until I get home at night far outweighs any issues about how the thing looks.
[Desire Accessories] kmetek:
so mugen's 3200 is "the" solution? any cheaper then 75$ ?
[Desire Accessories] A|ex:
As mentioned perviously which i missed is this will not fit into a docking station
[Desire Accessories] DrHRH:
Not sure yet what the final verdict is. I'm still testing it and have had a few issues with charging and what I believe to be calibration. I'll give it a few more charge cycles and get back to you.

What I would recommend though is having a look at

this one from eBay

I bought a 3000 mAh battery for my Hero from this seller and the battery was superb. Unfortunately when I ordered my expensive one from MugenPower there wasn't really any alternative. Having read around the internet in the last day or two, it seems that it's wise to be cautious with any battery claiming to be something special, coming from China or Hong Kong. There seem to be quite a few fakes/rip-offs.

Given that it's a UK seller and I've used him before with great satisfaction, I would've probably gone for this one, despite the lower capacity. Especially at a fraction of the cost. Too late now though. Hopefully my issues on this MP 3200 will resolve and I'll be able to report positive findings!
[Desire Accessories] zaki67:
I ordered the Mugen 3200 mAh battery 10 days ago and I got it today,I am still charging it (it says charge for 12 hours in the phone while the phone is on,which ,for me is next to impossible).

Very initial thoughts:

-It does not make the phone is big as I expected.

-I could not the back cover to close completely,still loose on one end.

-the back cover looks ok ,does not look cheep,the material is not as good as the original but once fitted to the device it looks part of it same color and matte finish)

I cant comment on performance yet!!

the packaging is extremely generic ,does not even have the model type on the outer packaging.
[Desire Accessories] Diamond360:
I just bought one. I can confirm: it is a swindle, a expensive joke, a finger in the ass. DONT BUY IT!!! It last less time than the htc battery 1400 mah... :mad:
[Desire Accessories] raynerape:
Give it a couple weeks, some of that matte finish will start to peel off around the edges of the bulge. Hardly something to go postal about, but it's fact of life.
[Desire Accessories] :
what about the battery itself I still cant judge whether it would last me a full day or not,the standard one lasted from 7 am till around 4 only (heavy usage)
[Desire Accessories] zaki67:
So far things are better than expected , I took the phone of the charger at 9 am and now It is 15 past midnight and I have 56% remaining which is frankly far better than I expected from what I read about the mugen
[Desire Accessories] paprkut:
Let me know if your battery life suddenly falls quickly at 25%
[Desire Accessories] zaki67:
Actually it.has been off the charger for 20 hours now., I used.it a lot today specially for.browsing after the rumor that there is an update for the desire today And I have been actively trying to drain the battery for theast hour so as to put it on the charger before I go to sleep but looks like it won't drop to a low enough level .
[Desire Accessories] DrHRH:
Proceed with caution!

I'm on the 5th charge cycle now and mine has died at between 25 and 22% each time. It seems to be something to do with the battery's "self-preservation circuit". Because the Desire is designed for a battery with a lower capacity, the device cuts out prematurely as it's confused, or something.

See this article and comments for more info:

http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=4967&start=15

@zaki67 - how's it going with your battery - does it drain all the way down to the normal low battery levels - 15%, 10% etc?
[Desire Accessories] paprkut:
But resetting the battery data via the recovery wouldn't work? I ran a juice plotter and my battery rapidly lost its juice at 25%
[Desire Accessories] DrHRH:
I'm not sure what you mean by resetting the battery data via recovery? Could you explain further please paprkut?

Thanks,

H
[Desire Accessories] DrHRH:
Just found the bit you were talking about in the ClockworkMod Recovery Advanced menu. I've wiped the battery data, so we'll see.

Have you got any clue what that particular option is meant to be used for under normal circumstances - what is the battery data anyway?
[Desire Accessories] paprkut:
From what I read the data is what the phone has learnt from the battery cycles. Data can get corrupted etc when you swap battery's
[Desire Accessories] paprkut:
I've also updated to the official froyo. Hoping that corrects it.
[Desire Accessories] paprkut:
didnt work. battery switched off at 23%
[Desire Accessories] DrHRH:
So what do you plan to do?

I can't decide if I should live with it or send it back.

I'm also concerned that, according to the instructions from Mugen themselves, we're not supposed to let the battery discharge fully. That's happened now 4 or 5 times and I'm thinking that might have damaged the battery. Or has the self-preservation thing kicked in and there's actually still juice left in it so there's no damage been done?
[Desire Accessories] paprkut:
theres no juice because when you charge it up it goes from 0%

also if you do charge it up to say 20% it will slowly discharge as it would with a normal battery?? i thought it was a software problem. i dont know if its a bad batch of batterys or what since the other users of the mugen dont seem to be talking about any issues?... well on here,