yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus One Android Development] fiuza91:
Yup it is.
[Nexus One Android Development] ianken:
Hmmm. I see a lot of folks fixated on clock speeds and the heavy lifting required to do H.264. The ARM CPU does zero encoding. It's all dedicated encoder silicon. All the specs I've seen show the hardware can do 720p/24 at least. Even if you overclocked and water cooled your N1 (because YOU ARE XTREMEMEMEME!@!!!!!!one!!) you'd not have enough CPU beefcake to do 720p H.264 encoding.

So we case we have a driver issue. The video chipset code lives in the radio image. So unless you have the source to the radio you ain't gonna unlock diddly. HTC needs to do that.
[Nexus One Android Development] charnsingh_online:
N1 is uncapable of h264 720p encoding at real time and so is the evo and that is the reason EVO does compressed 720 with a mere bitrate of 5mbps compared tp 45mbps on realtime 720p
[Nexus One Android Development] D200P13:
very nice! this makes me feel good about the nexus one!
[Nexus One Android Development] Jack_R1:
Actually, HTC needs to pull radio sources from Qualcomm, if it's even possible (I'm pretty sure that Qualcomm doesn't distribute radio sources to anyone, only APIs).

You're right, there's a dedicated decoder that can do 720p+. I'm not sure it's complemented by encoder, though - and even less sure about the inability of enabling 720p recording with decent bitrate on current HW. AFAIK, there is no extra HW to enable it on Evo 4G.

charnsingh, bitrate of 720p stream over the air/cable is 8-10mbps, not even close to 45. The maximal bitrate of Blu-ray is 40mbps, and it's reserved for 1080p. 720p is a bit more than 1/2 bitrate of 1080i, not even 1080p. And the definition doesn't include bitrate specs, so technically if I create a low bitrate high resolution content, it's still HD. Crappy, but HD. 5mbps of the Evo is quite good. So, if the Evo can, Nexus probably can too.
[Nexus One Android Development] Oletros:
Frankly, I would prefer changing the audio encoder to something less ****ty than AMR than having 720p encoding. I think that the silicon can encode AAC.

Audio quality on recorded videos is one of the worst I have heard
[Nexus One Android Development] bcpk:
True that.
[Nexus One Android Development] tontonHD:
OMG the audio is like from the 40's its so bad I don't even feel like recording anything... If somebody could fix this ****ty problem I would donate $1000000. ok? ready? go!
[Nexus One Android Development] charnsingh_online:
i am waiting for froyo source to drop it has solved one of the encoders problem, i have the aac source with me will try implementing it too
[Nexus One Android Development] bcpk:
Any chance you'll have a look at upping the frame rate in the normal resolution? It has a pretty bad jelly cam effect whenever you pan.
[Nexus One Android Development] charnsingh_online:
yeah the frame rate is upped in Froyo courtesy of swetland as he implemented the h264. Now remains audio, had been busy lately but i will be back on 5 June will try improving audio
[Nexus One Android Development] cyanogen:
The new radio can do encoding much faster. The next CM5 will require it (requires a kernel and openmax driver update) .720p would be a bonus.
[Nexus One Android Development] charnsingh_online:
Only problem I am finding right now is how to get it encode in 720p compressed. It is not capable of encoding in real time. I'll start working on it as soon as my exams end.

Cyanogen - can u update ur Repo to new kernel and openmax drivers. I am sure that if I get it working it will be way better than in evo because I have seen a lot of loopholes in kernel n drivers that make encoding worse. That's y I requested swetland to change some stuff in the Repo. He did it, I am sure we will be able to improve it. I got the datasheet of nexus camera from a source n it is capable of more than it is clocked at. It can got upto ~101 mhz currently clocked at 72 mhz. This will make some stuff better. We will keep it at 90mhz safe clock speed.
[Nexus One Android Development] :
ahm....720p = 1280 x 720

not 720 x 480...
[Nexus One Android Development] knightnz:
PM me a bank statement showing you can afford it, and I'll get right onto it! ;)
[Nexus One Android Development] charnsingh_online:
we know wat 720p mean xD

BTW $xxxxxxx was a joke by him lol ;). If it was true. I would learn everything in a day and fix it
[Nexus One Android Development] charnsingh_online:
GOt 720p working :)
[Nexus One Android Development] TheMorpheus:
Yes man!

Good work...looking forward to try it out!!
[Nexus One Android Development] RaQHoliday:
^awesomesauce.
[Nexus One Android Development] stuff:
I am ready to test this and see the outcome.
[Nexus One Android Development] hugonz:
Would you mind sharing the datasheet? I know a lot of people including myself would be very interested in camera-hacking but don't want to go through the hassle of reverse engineering.
[Nexus One Android Development] charnsingh_online:
Nope cant share the datasheet, but will show some stats from there

sorry its secret
[Nexus One Android Development] stuff:
If you have this working really good, I will be happy.

And I will laugh at Apple. Because we turned a device that wasn't origionally capable into one that records HD just like the new iPhone.
[Nexus One Android Development] y2whisper:
Wow game, set, match
[Nexus One Android Development] hugonz:
Gutted. What I would be interested in is how to set up the sensor to output pure, raw Bayer-mosaiced image data with no signal processing done on it.

I think we would also like to read the chapter about the VFE (video front end) in the QSD8250 manual.

I would also be interested in any information about the camera's noise (SNR), FPN/CDS features, sensitivity, and gain.

Thanks!
[Nexus One Android Development] big_adventure:
Bad news - The datasheet copy that the OP posted in reads 720 wide by 480 high, and that is NOT 720p.

In 720p, the 720 is the height (horizontal scan lines, really), and p is progressive, which effectively means non-interlaced, meaning that each frame in the stream has every pixel in it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/720p
[Nexus One Android Development] sheek360:
Just awesome.
[Nexus One Android Development] charnsingh_online:
haha its 1280x720, i tweeted the photo guys
[Nexus One Android Development] y2whisper:
I think Thats an old pic from when the thread was created (4/30/2010
[Nexus One Android Development] stuff:
I'm sorry sir, but we aren't retards.
[Nexus One Android Development] stuff:
I saw your tweeted pic. It's only at ~17fps though. Any way to increase it? To say, 25?
[Nexus One Android Development] charnsingh_online:
it needs to be cleaned up yet xD
[Nexus One Android Development] big_adventure:
Just bigoted, then? Intolerant? Or feeling defensive?

@charnsingh_online

Nice work! Sorry for suspecting malfeasance. I was just momentarily disappointed. Might want to update the pic on the front page - I saw "DONE" and excitedly checked it. Then I saw "720" wide. Oops.
[Nexus One Android Development] stuff:
No. We just understand that 720p is. You don't need to barge in here and act like captain obvious.
[Nexus One Android Development] x986123:
So does this hack actually make it 720p? Your releasing it tomorrow?
[Nexus One Android Development] charnsingh_online:
maybe today
[Nexus One Android Development] rodigezstyle:
sounds really good congratulations.. :)

you got Stereo Recording working too ??? maybe in better Quality
[Nexus One Android Development] x986123:
Is it true 720p Though?

*Edit: Never mind, should have read the previous posts, it is. Sorry for asking... lol.
[Nexus One Android Development] Wysie:
big_adventure: Thanks for the info, I actually don't know much about video stuff :).

charan_singh: NICE WORK! :D
[Nexus One Android Development] venezia64:
Congrats dude! It's been a long way but you did it :)

Btw, I don't know if this has already been asked or if it's in the to-do list but enabling the LED while recording would be also awesome.
[Nexus One Android Development] cyanogen:
Nice work man, let's get it into CM?
[Nexus One Android Development] dalingrin:
I'm surprised you did this without the Froyo improvements / codecs.:eek:
[Nexus One Android Development] InGeNeTiCs:
Is that framerate going to be an issue? It only says 16fps...
[Nexus One Android Development] bpm2000:
bravo man, bravo
[Nexus One Android Development] Mi|enko:
Is the work on this going to need to be redone when FroYo goes live?
[Nexus One Android Development] Neo-Nemesis:
Congratulations for getting 720P

Can we expect ~30fps at lower resolution ?
[Nexus One Android Development] alapapa:
*slow clap*

nice work, yo
[Nexus One Android Development] charnsingh_online:
Yay!!!! BTW ill soon be updating my github. Maybe tomorrow. I have been awake 26 hours now. Need some rest :-)
[Nexus One Android Development] sheek360:
Can we install it on froyo? If so, how?
[Nexus One Android Development] mrmarshall428:
+1 Can this be used on Froyo?
[Nexus One Android Development] audino:
+1 could you improve the audio quality?

tank a look over sample vid from i9000 on youtube with same hardware there is a huge diffrance...
[Nexus One Android Development] britoso:
next step is to get rid of the AMR audio :P
[Nexus One Android Development] seanowns:
Awesome Job. Great contribution. Look forward to seeing this in the standard CM.
[Nexus One Android Development] avio07:
I don't get why Google isn't smart enough to release this themselves for the Nexus One, do they expect everyone to mod it to hell to get all the features working.
[Nexus One Android Development] johnnybags:
i'm assuming this will be applicable to the Incredible if/when it gets rooted as well?
[Nexus One Android Development] djdarkknight96:
Congrats on the CM invite! Can't wait to see it in action when completed! That's going to pull me from froyo till CM 6 arrives! Good job!
[Nexus One Android Development] Dai323:
Hmm...a .tiff file. Ive never installed one of these. How exactly should it be installed?
[Nexus One Android Development] MarcusMaximus04@gmail.com:
A tiff is an image file, as in an actual picture to look at, not something that can be installed.
[Nexus One Android Development] x986123:
You don't... That's just a picture.
[Nexus One Android Development] Dai323:
LOL..um..yeah..I knew that..I was just...um...

seeing if you guys knew! Yeah..thats it :D

Ok ok..we get 1 n00bish moment a month :)
[Nexus One Android Development] pikipirs:
Whoa... that took me by surprise. Bravo to the OP!
[Nexus One Android Development] Kman Gymrat:
Is that image file viewable on the n1 or will I have to download it on my pc to see it?
[Nexus One Android Development] dogiedogie:
Whoooo! But 16.5 fps, do you think we'll see that creeping up at all with tweaks? Whats the limiting factor?
[Nexus One Android Development] D200P13:
i really hope this will be a simple flash to install on stock froyo
[Nexus One Android Development] x986123:
Get #NexusOne trending on twitter or he won't release!
[Nexus One Android Development] johnnybags:
I'll get #attentionwhore trending on twitter.
[Nexus One Android Development] charnsingh_online:
u dont deserve it. :mad:
[Nexus One Android Development] x986123:
Why would say that? You joined just to tell me this?
[Nexus One Android Development] DMaverick50:
Boy oh boy do I agree!!! Itd be really cool of it was just added to the native camera, but in this case id be out of mind excited to have it any which way on my unrooted nexus. Actually I'd seriously consider rooting....I really don't want to but for 720p I'd probably have to

Edit: the voluntary hard work and development at xda is uncanny. Theres a lot of petty *****ing that goes on here but the devs are always above it and are absolutely awesome! Big thanks!
[Nexus One Android Development] chowlala:
Wahahaha. +1 to android. -1 to rotten apples!!!

WOOT GO WOBAWTZ!
[Nexus One Android Development] Kiserai:
Okay, nobody else asked this question and I have to know: Why are you here with an unrooted Nexus One? 99.9% of the stuff at XDA requires a rooted device. The Nexus One was Google's attempt at making a developer phone that was meant to be rooted and experimented on by everybody who bought it.

I'm not making a personal attack at all, but I just find it odd that you have over 900 posts, which means you spend a lot of time here, but you can't install most of the things that are offered and discussed on this site.

Just root your Nexus. It might scare you a little bit (I know I was nervous when I unlocked by bootloader and flashed recovery, and I still get nervous whenever I have to flash my radio) but that's the fun part of having a phone like this. I'm not a developer, but I am great at following instructions and learning from the process. If you can say the same, it's completely worth it.

Back on topic, great job on this. HD recording is sweet, but we need the framerate up. If you could use a similar technique to lock the framerate at 30fps but at a lower resolution, I would be all over it. Even just a 800x480 at 30fps would be amazing to me.
[Nexus One Android Development] katiepea:
I'll agree that it's a tad baffling why anyone would be here and not root. It's like being 8 and staring inside the candy shop. JUST DO IT

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[Nexus One Android Development] SBS_:
Perhaps most people here are rooted, but I have used this site for years and I've yet to root my N1. Plenty of good information to be found on this site even though you haven't rooted and many of the programs in this section also work on non-rooted devices (at least eventually).

I just got tired of rooting after flashing tens and tens of ROMs on my previous WM phones. Once you start flashing you don't stop, so I thought I'd keep it stock for once ;)
[Nexus One Android Development] Kiserai:
Who would want to stop? I love flashing ROMs on my phone. It's actually one of my favorite hobbies now, and I can't wait for Cyanogen to get his hands on Froyo and work his magic on it. Then all the bundle ROMs will follow, and I'll be enjoying every minute of it.

Hello, my handle is Kiserai and I'm a nerd.
[Nexus One Android Development] SBS_:
Hehe, point is I did it for several years and now get my kick out of new apps and news on future upgrades instead. I like to use my phone now instead of flashing the latest alpha relase every day :p Perhaps I'm getting old ;)
[Nexus One Android Development] big_adventure:
See? That's much nicer! "Retards" is pretty nasty slang and I don't like it.

I'm sooo dreadfully sorry if I offended you. You should perhaps try determining your self-worth by fiat, not consensus. What on Earth could possibly make you care one iota what I think about you * ?

And, perhaps more importantly, what makes you think that I have the slightest opinion about you at all?

So please, holster your intolerance cannon.

*(whether you are handicapped or just incapable of understanding what 720p is - I mean, that's not even all that insulting is it? My wife has no clue what 720p is and I still love her...)
[Nexus One Android Development] big_adventure:
See, now THAT'S sarcasm I can appreciate. ;)
[Nexus One Android Development] jm1999:
Ok sorry. So this hack isn't out yet right? Because engadget said it was..
[Nexus One Android Development] chowlala:
Actually, it's like having sex. GET TO IT QUICK AND MAKE IT LAST!
[HD2 General] omil25:
3g connection goes on vaca periodically

you have to tweak the ish out of it, ( and im still not happy)

had it since March 24th... US tmobile

still trying to get to where it should be

email sucks , especiallly if you have gmail

i find myself checking this forum more than my email.

its really starting to pis me off.

i had high hopes for this phone , its really not user freindly

i had an iphone for 3 years , and was looking for a good change ,

F it , this is the official complaint thread....post here

and oh yeah , everybody i know up here in Boston ,MA. with this phone is complaining!!!!!!!!

WTF htc tmobile
[HD2 General] rp-x1:
Sorry dude, but you're ranting more than explaining any of the issues.

What exactly are the problems?
[HD2 General] omil25:
ok dr.fixit

why does my web connection get lost every now and then , to the point i have to turn my data connection on and off.. and please dont tell me to disable HSPDA or whatever cuz i tried it and it still happens..

why does zooming in on websites using opera 9 make everything blurry( pics and text) ,please dont tell me to switch to opera 10 cuz that little zoom window that appears is terrible. and the auto resizing sucks.

why doesnt this phone download full emails ( with pics) ,i already set it to download full email , but then i have to manually download pics

i have bsb tweaks, regedit, cookies home tab, cleanram.. and this **** still freezes.
[HD2 General] rp-x1:
I can understand your annoyance, but talking sarcastically to people showing a wish to assist isn't going to encourage help from these forums.

Does the drop in connection happen when you are stationary (i.e. when you're sat at a desk in an office) or while you're travelling, or both?

Opera 9, are you zooming with pinch-to-zoom or double tapping? or both?

Do you have "Mobile View" ticked in the settings?

Have you got gmail set up as IMAP or POP3?
[HD2 General] skycamefalling:
That's the problem.

Stevie has been bottle-feeding you for three years and now you are overwhelmed with the freedom a real phone gives you :rolleyes:
[HD2 General] Demon_man:
like Skycamefalling stated you have had an iphone for 3 years, so the tweaking bit you have to get to grips with, email on the phone works great i have 4 accounts working on mine and 1 of them is push,
[HD2 General] Chastiser:
tbh some of the issues you list could be down to your provider as opposed to the phone itself.

i have had my HD2 since dec 24th and love it to bits. i do not have any of the probs you list but then i am in the uk with a different version of the phone and a different provider as well.

Mike
[HD2 General] zarathustrax:
I can tell you that your 3g problems are probably because of T-Mobiles crappy 3g coverage. I can't get 3g inside any building at all in my area. T-Mobiles 1700 band doesn't penetrate through walls or objects as well as AT&Ts 850 3g band. I really miss AT&Ts 3g coverage... it worked everywhere for me.

For your freezing problems... do you remember to make sure you fully close any apps you aren't using with a task manager. If you have too many things running in the backround it can cause problems. Most people who are used to an iphone don't remember to do that.
[HD2 General] omil25:
skycamefalling ,,,,,that was funny.i have no problem tweaking internally. my iphone was tweaked beyond comprehension. you jester you!!

to all my British bretheren , i have the US version remember.

rp-x1,,,connection lost while both traveling and stable, on opera 9 , mobile view is off, and i use double tap as well as pinch to zoom, email,incoming is imap,outgoing is smtp
[HD2 General] dailydriver:
I have a TMOUS HD2 and I love it. I guess you have to be kind of technical at least to love this phone. Iphone is a no brainer, locked down OS. Pick up and download apps and use. LOL... All people I know, with an iphone, aren't really technical. I've never really cared for an iPhone. This is my first smartphone, but this is just buying me time for a real Mobile Computer.
[HD2 General] omil25:
daily driver,,,,dude im from Boston ,gimme a break will ya.

i have N-O problem digging into the registry.

RP-X1 ,,, you seem savvy, what do you propose ?
[HD2 General] Demon_man:
3G i cant help because you have a US version, tweaking wise whats the problem? email wise is it just the pictures downloading you have problem with
[HD2 General] omil25:
demon,,, yes its the pics i have a problem with on the email.

zara-whatever,,,, you have a point, verizon 3g is better then att, but att is better than tmobile,, oh and dude , my task manager is a quick link.
[HD2 General] omil25:
i might just have to go to verizon and get the incredible.......
[HD2 General] veritas17:
No, you don't. I have seen and experienced more problems with this phone and I'm an avid android user. I'm experiencing the same issues the poster is having as well, and I've experienced this with two different hd2's within the past couple weeks (buyers remorse is a godsend).

The phone may have the potential to rock face, but it's like my beloved Rx-7's... potential to kick a lot of ass but the reality is they're more problematic than they're worth. The phone has a lot of issues, you shouldn't HAVE to close down a single app in order for your phone to respond. Having the ability to do that is nice, but it shouldn't be a requirement especially if you're only running a couple apps like messages, music, opera and the phone itself.

I say if the person upset can take it back or sell it, do so. I am taking mine back if I don't see any improvements by this weekend.

Tweaking is fun when it functions; tweaking to get things to operate half right and it STILL doesn't even do that is beyond annoying.

Outta curiosity, could we take this phone to at&t and use it? (US side)
[HD2 General] veritas17:
To put it another way, I feel as if i'm paying Tmobile/HTC/Windows Mobile to beta test their lack luster phone with zero software support and no forseeable end to the beta or a worthwhile product at the end of the cycle.
[HD2 General] rp-x1:
Does it drop the connection while surfing? If so, did the connection slow down/drop bars first?

Opera, Is it every page that goes fuzzy, does it do it on the mobile versions of the same sites? Do you get a checkerboard effect appear while zooming also?

Can't really help with the gmail issue as I only have hotmail on imap. I have seen a few posts mention that it doesn't download images unless requested. I must admit it does it randomly (although very rarely) on my POP accounts on mine.

I've not been able to track it down as to whether its due to closing the connection to the server prematurely, or whether its just having a funny 5.
[HD2 General] Demon_man:
neither of my accounts will download pictures auto apperently its a saftey feature something like that let me fine the link for you has more info.
[HD2 General] rp-x1:
I know Pocket Outlook stops it automatically, but mine download the entire message through pop after adjusting the settings.
[HD2 General] zarathustrax:
I really don't understand why some people have all these problems with these phones, even after getting a replacement. I have had no issues whatsoever... I can run usually over 10 apps at a time with no lagging or freezing. It ran fine out of the box for me with no tweeks. I've installed and uninstalled many apps, including ones that were questionable to experiment and test out. I was actually surprised it didn't freeze up with what I threw at it. I've owned 8 other winmo devices and the HD2 has been the fastest, most stable one. So when I see people having problems with freezing, I have to figure you either have a faulty device or it's something the user has done (either installed something or using it in some way that causes it.). So saying that you have to tweak it to get it to work right doesn't apply to everyone or every HD2 and these issues seem to be for certain users or HD2s. It does seem that most of the people with these issues are people who have liitle or no experience with winmo, but I can't figure out how exactly someone would use it to cause these issues. Maybe there's a large number of defective units. idk.

Also, to use your Tmous HD2 on AT&T, you'll need to unlock it first. And you will only get edge speeds with AT&T... no 3g.
[HD2 General] :
try this for your email man

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=496972