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[Touch HD General] smog:
No it's not preassembled but you probably solved my problem. you basically say the touch panel and the LCD MUST be in touch in a specific point to close some contact (maybe the lower LCD ribbon must touch the lower part of the touch panel?)!! If you confirm that than probably that is my fault. I've seen some videos on youtube where the touch panel works even if it's away from the LCD but it was not a blackstone and probably not a resistive touch panel.

Please confirm I got it right, you probably saved my blackstone.
[Touch HD General] qwertylesh:
as far as i know, the digitizer will have some kind of ribbon, on the LCD theres contacts or a socket for that ribbon, you can see (poorly) in the pictures I took, where I show the LCD and digitizer and a layer (digitizer and face place layers) of torn apart.

I looked around my room for my old damaged screen but unfortunately I can't find it I think I may have disposed of it.

lucky, ebay type sites do have some pictures of the digitizer and its ribbon as you can see in this picture - link (I googled this and found it here

that ribbon would likely attach to the lcd panel, I'm quite sure if they aren't making proper contact the touch won't work.

But, having said that, before I made this thread, while reading about others who did a repair without a pre-assembled part, they mentioned that the digitizer part contained many tiny bubble like resistive cells in the digitizer layers, its imperative you don't damage the any of these touch cell things, because if they somehow get damaged, even if you get the digitizer ribbon to make proper contact with the LCD board/slot/contact (which ever its supposed to plug into), if those tiny cell break in the digitizer the touch wont work (could be partial, or could be overall interoperability) and if that happened, it would be a circumstance where you'd need to source another digitizer.

this is more or less an elaboration on my prior post I think.

What I can say for sure is before I fixed mine, after some searching around on these forums and on others, I found that most of those who did not get the digitizer, face plate and lcd factory pre-assembled did not fix their handset (only a minority did), they either ran into a problem with the digitizer making contact with the lcd panel, or they somehow damaged the digitizer resistive cells.

Also, since I did do mine with a pre-assembled part, I cannot say absolutely that the resistive cells will be between the faceplate layer and the second layer of the digitizer replacement part (like you see in my pictures, I ended up with 3 layers) it could be that the resistive cells are exposed on the back of the last layer and need to sit against the lcd, once again though, I'm not sure about it because I did opt for the more expensive easier choice to fix mine up.

Hope you get it all working smog
[Touch HD General] smog:
No way, tried to push lcd and digitizer together without any result. I don't believe there is something that can be broken on the back of digitizer (Resistive cells???) but I hope you are right, I am waiting for a housing I bought from HK it's complete with a new digitizer ... we'll see

Thanks a lot
[Touch HD General] mpg66:
Hello, great guide but I am still having a problem and I wonder if it's with what I bought; Off ebay I got the plastic and the glass attached to each other as I assumed thats all I needed because my lcd works fine. So I connected it all up and it only slightly works, where you touch the screen is actually showing up as quite a bit below (depends where - top left corner works fine but if you click the center of the screen the phone thinks you're clicking at the bottom).. I have tried calibration with no luck.. Any help/suggestions greatly appreciated.

Thanks :)
[Touch HD General] qwertylesh:
Afraid that theres not a lot you can do, if you havent fully reassembled it yet you could try reapplying the digitizer layer but I think that even trying that could make it worse then it is.

Like i said a few times, I wouldn't try replacing the digitizer on its own, I read up on it before repairing mine and concluded it was too much risk or trouble and just got an all in one lcd + digitizer which I used in the guide.

anyway these phones are quite old now, its hard to justify spending on an LCD and digitizer to fix one up.

you need to decide if thats worth it to you or not.

Infact, my blackstone has Newton rings again on the replacement screen, im not certain what squashed against it hard enough to cause them but it happened recently, the digitizer on mine is still working even with the newton ring damage so Im not planning on replacing the screen again.
[Touch HD General] mpg66:
Okay thank you very much for your help,

Are they still good phones though? I have a nokia 5800 from around the same time and i'm bored of it now but can't afford a new one so i bought this one really cheap as broken and was just going to fix it.. Or is it not really that much better?

Thanks again for your answer
[Touch HD General] qwertylesh:
they're considerably faster then nokias usually, i had the 6600, 6260, 9300i and they were all considerably slower ARM processors.

but It will all come down to what OS you run on it, if you do put a WinMo 6.5 rom on it it will be slow to the degree where its unusable. but if you use a 6.1 rom on it then it will never suffer from slow downs (unless the rom is hybrid 6.1 with 6.5 stuff like the one i use).

It also can do heaps of stuff the nokia can't, assuming your nokia is a series 60 or similar.

the Os can do tethering and heaps of other neat things, winmo also has got a fair range of apps, tho dated now, the variety is nice and gives you functionality, you could obtain a lot of this on a nokia symbian phone but winmo (based on wince) is just even better then symbian.

I think it all comes down to how much it will cost you to fix, I have a better phone so i cant justify spending over 50 dollars on fixing a slower older one, but to someone who doesnt have a better phone it may be quite viable to spend that to benefit the improvement over their current worse phone.

ideally, I would say just skip over it, its not truely that fast, you need at least a gigahertz phone to be fast. a HD2 or something, if you can get one like that quite cheap and in good condition, it would be worth more then spending a bit on the blackstone (touch HD).

just my opinion though :)

I would repair my blackstone again because i get use out of it each time its healthy even though I have something better its still handy to have, i love the audio output on it over my htc desire, but i wouldn't be spending the amount i spent on another repair screen like it did back when it was the best potential phone i could have had at the time.
[Touch HD General] mpg66:
Okay thats great, a lot of info to take in but a lot of help :) many thanks for your time and help, I'll have a look at how much screens are then and consider fixing it, thanks again :)
[Touch HD General] kulwant:
Hi my touch hd is giving same problems of not responding on touch. The buttons on the side that is power up and power down plus the power button work though. What could be the possible problem??

I asked a local guy at repair shop and he asked to change the digitizer. Do you think it will work after changing that ? He asked for 40 US $ but no warranty. Is it worth it getting replaced from him or can i buy it online at cheaper rate and change it myself. Please help i just have one phone and can you provide me with links where i can buy the required stuff from.

Thanks a tonne..
[Touch HD General] qwertylesh:
If they're offering to replace the digitizer for $40, that sounds like a good deal.

definitely don't replace just the digitizer on your own, let someone technical do it.
[Touch HD General] kipjr:
My power/unlock button was broken. The very small metal button that makes contact with the flexboard while pressing it was loose from its casing. I tried fixing it. No use, it was too small. So I brought a new flexboard from EBAY. Now it's is working again. This guide was really helpful!

Warning: be careful with assembling and disassembling the Blackstone. It is very delicate. And also let someone repair your screen or buy the full screen digitizer pack.
[Touch HD General] qwertylesh:
yeah they're quite delicate, my bezel ended up with a few big dents from repairing it, it was still worth it, but the next time im repairing a phone like this (which i own of course) I'll take a lot more time and use plastic tools (for removing glued areas etc)

:)
[Touch HD General] pinsb:
Does anyone know someone in London, UK who does screen replacements?

I have a failed touchscreen, everything else is working OK.
[Touch HD General] Igoritza:
Ok, here's my story:

I dissasambled the Blackstone. what have I found inside:

due to special unidentified conditions, the glue from the sides (the one that should hold LCD+digitizer to the front cover) has found it's way into the space between LCD and digitizer. I recognized it cause it's a type of glue found on TS phones, the one that is similar to buggers :)

I havent assambled the phone yet, but im pretty sure that it is the problem. it is a resistive non multi-touch screen, so the only thing that could disable touch is something already touching it.

Im pretty sure also, that LCD and digitizer shouldnt be in some special position, speaking in terms of connection, they both have their own connectors to the PCB so they do not interchange anything. you just need to place them exactly as they do fit.

although I agree with qwertylesh that buying joined units (LCD+digitizer) should be better solution, this phone has lost it's market value so you could easily try in this order:

1. dissasamble the phone following some of the video instructions (good video on vimeo ~22 minutes)

2. in the bright light, diagnoze the TS back side, the one that lies onto the LCD

3. detach and reattach all the ZIF connectors (the flexy brown colored flat cable looking thingies) cause they often know to be the problem

4. assamble

if not working - nuke it. or buy ridiculously high priced screen+Touch panel.

imma get back here to report if working, but im pretty sure it is going to, the glue bulges that went between were pretty big.
[Touch HD General] Igoritza:
I was partially right. the digitizer iz working now, but it seems to me that the "looseness" of the whole assembly is responsible for the digitizer short-life.

when I was assembling the unit, it was clear that there is to much free space, so you wouldnt notice, but the screen moves alot.

and on top of that, the glue that holds the screen is going onto the side of the digitizer, with no protection whatsoever, so it is destined to fail at certain point.

If anyone else replies to this thread in need of help, Im going to show step by step how to buy only digitizer and make everything work, email me @ - sekira66@yahoo.com cause im not a regular here.
[Touch HD General] qwertylesh:
I took another Blackstone completely apart last weekend which was given to me with a dead digitizer to fix.

I have done pretty much what you have pointed out. disassembled it and cleaned it up before considering getting any replacement parts.

unfortunately the digitizer on this one seems to be stuffed. its probably the same problem with the glue because the actual parts all look perfectly fine, no newton ring problem or anything.

Igoritza, you're probably correct about the lcd and the digitizer both having their own connections, since for my blackstone (which ive given away) when I repaired that, I only tore the lcd and digitizer apart to fit a new premade part.

I didn't pay close attention to how the two make contact with the mainboard because for that phone I wasnt trying to resuce any existing part :)

im not going to bother replacing anything on the newer blackstone I was given because its not worth the price of the part.
[Touch HD General] Igoritza:
there are now online 14$ only digitizers for purchase. it was about time for lower price. alas, I cant buy it, cause it is on freakin Amazon and they dont send electronics in Serbia.

does anyone know, if its available for purchase in Hong Kong ? I have a friend there who sends me stuff .. ?
[Touch HD General] qwertylesh:
considering they sell on ebay from hong kong, your friend could likely buy locally for you, so yes :)
[Touch HD General] MJRL:
I think my digitizer its dead, the screen its ok, but the touch don't work, do you guys think its the digitizer?

I've read here for one guy that its very difficult to change the digitizer, usually broke the display, is it true?

If i could only change the digitizer no problem, but digitizer and display it's a bit expensive for a backup phone.

Any tip on this?
[Touch HD General] Igoritza:
as I told - it is NOT hard if you are careful and look at the videos. there is one @ YT, and one on Vimeo that explain step by step how to replace.

the MOST important things are:

1. watch out for the flex pcb when you get to it. it is the most sensitive part in the phone.

2. figure out how to remove ZIF/Data cable from the backside of the plastic

3. find a glue that would resemble fabric glue, when aplying new digitizer to the plastic part that should hold it. REMEMBER - it goes ON THE SIDES of digitizer, it CANT be a chemical reaction glue (superglue) NO WAY, and it should be sometnig like those universal glues that kids use in school, and a bit strong.

here in serbia, we have stuf called - Tiger glue, it's a non reactive glue, probbably contact glue by type
[Touch HD General] Igoritza:
quick update: I have purchased my digitizer from these guys:

http://www.amazon.com/Touch-Screen-Digitizer-TOUCH-BLACKSTONE/dp/B003352NNQ

it's the 101% original HTC digitizer, and on top of it all , they sent me a torex screwdriver, and a plastic thingy for easier removal of stuf.

im not advertising them, im just trying to help people with dead screen on Blackstone, I replaced it, and it works 100%!

allas, the biggest update on removing:

metal plate, that holds the LCD is glued with some kind of adhesive, that is really hard to remove, and it is necessary, cause flex cable of the digitizer goes behind it. BE CAREFULL!

Again, if anyone wants me to make a video, and wants to replace the screen, post in this thread and I will do so.
[Touch HD General] kwbr:
A few years ago someone already made a video repairing a touch hd. I replaced 2 screens myself and it is indeed a bit tricky. In the end I would send a device to a service repair center.

The video can be watched here.
[HD2 General] cd993:
Is there any way we can underclock our HD2 whilst idle, or when the screen goes off, to save battery?
[HD2 General] ephestione:
the Snapdragon underclocks itself already, and it shuts down altegether when in standby, as only the radio is working. Battery drain during standby is ~4mA.
[HD2 General] cd993:
ahh right thanks for the reply, recently got my hd2 and still learning of its features!
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] rakawrc:
Hi,

i have problem with flashing my X1 with custom ROM

In Rom update utillity there is message: Error 262

On display is: KOVS 110

SPL-0.78.0000

Micro P1-787

Micro P2-787

Please help me!

What i can do with this error and how i can unlock my phone?
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Lokatho:
Before you can flash a custom ROM you need to hardSPL your phone. It isn't yet, because bootloader says "SPL-0.78.0000" and not "SPL-0.72.OliNex".

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=431218

After you hardSPL'ed your phone you can flash custom ROMs.

gl
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] rakawrc:
Yeeeah

Yeeah!

I did it!

Thank you very...very...much!

:D
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zim2dive:
This is some ways a basic question... but something most people don't bother to think about..

when I go to Recovery and Flash a zip file... what is actually taking place? is it only unzipping the contained files to their respective paths in the filesystem (just like a tarball), and/or are there any hooks such that a script of one flavor or another could automatically be run? (ie. to create some links, fix permissions, etc)
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] peshal:
Every rom flash is based on an update script which is located at META-INF/com/google/android/. All the permissions are set through the update script. If you extract any rom and explore to the update script and see. You will find exactly how the rom flash works..
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zim2dive:
thanks! (was hoping it would be something like this)
[HD2 Accessories] MaDMaN785:
Hey,

I'm looking for a "heavy duty case" for my new UK HD2.

All of the floors in my house are made of either stone or hard wood, and don't want to end up dropping it and breaking it. So i want something that could protect it well from a drop from about hip hight.

Is there anything like this available at the moment?? :confused:

Thanks! :)
[HD2 Accessories] osrix:
for me this is looking like "the One" !! :D

also check out this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=578283&page=19
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] magicriggs:
Hey guys I'm coming from a modaco custom Rom and trying to get

DamageControlv2.08 installed. But everytime I flash it over I reboot the

Phone via recovery mode. And i get stuck at the HTC loading screen. I've let it

Try to boot up over night and still same thing. I've done factory wipe ans ext wipe.

I'm cdma hero. damageControl 2.08 is 98.3 MB. I've downloaded it twice and when i

Do flash it over it say installation complete .

Model number

HTC hero

Firmware version

1.5

baseband version

2.41.05.02.03

Kernal version

2.6.27 -mck- 1.2

Rootwmware-karmic-x64

Build number

MoDaCo Custom Rom 2.2 Core

Software version

1.56.651.2

Hardware version

0002

So all in a nutshell . Going to damagecontrol from modaco. Won't boot up.

Done data wipe and ext wipe. Stuck on black svreen with white HTC letters. Installation reads complete and gave it plentyof time to boot up. Please help thanks.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kcarpenter:
EDIT: Didn't read you already wiped EXT

BUT:

Power the phone off. Hold home + back and power it on.

Someone correct me if those are the wrong buttons.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bernard_photography:
I just had the same problem on DC 2.08.1, I am doing a nandroid restore to DC 2.08. Not sure why there is an issue.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jye75:
I too had the same issue, went back to my restore of DC 2.06... gonna try again later.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] magicriggs:
Ok guys i was able to flash DC Rom v2.0 successfully, I then tried to update

It to his current version. No luck! Anyone have any ideas.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bratten2121:
how did you fix it I'm having the same problem

I also got stuck at the htc boot screen I did a wipe and dalvik clean..
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dan330:
i updated from 2.06 .. to 2.07 to 2.08

only wiped davlik cache each time.

I did not have any issues.

try that.

also try...

I think i read.. that it might take a few boots.

each time it would go a little farther.

try it 3 times... and wait 20 mins each time.
[HD2 General] bogdatov:
After installing Cookies Home Screen, I believe I lost ability to manage what tabs (Footprints, Stocks, Weather, etc) are visible.

Is there any way to manage those tabs ?

On the same line ... does T-Mobile HD2 have eReader tab and if so, how to enable it ?
[HD2 General] secano:
On the slider tab

Settings > Personalize > Home screen Tabs
[HD2 General] bogdatov:
Unfortunately I only see those menu items on slider menu:

Home wallpaper

Cookies Home Tab Editor

Edit Quick Links

Edit Home Layout

Weather demo
[HD2 General] secano:
Check attached...
[HD2 General] bogdatov:
Thanks for the screenshot. It seems you have different ROM. I have US T-Mobile HD2 Stock ROM and whereever you have

Personalize

Wireless Controls

Sound & Display

Data Services

Location

...

I dont have those. Mine starts with

Security

The rest is the same.
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
are you reeeealy sure? cos if you leave the settings page list scrolled to the bottom, the top entry is security, , , try sliding down on the list....
[HD2 General] bogdatov:
OMG. I feel soooo stupid right now :)

Thanks a lot. Found it.
[HD2 General] sirphunkee:
don't feel bad....believe me you are not the first (or even the 10th) person I've seen that didn't realize the settings menu scrolled, seriously :D
[HD2 General] zelendel:
Question answered.

Thread closed
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Android*XDA:
I need a fast 6.5 Rom for HTC Diamond,

looking for a WWE Version or Romanian Version, ( a clean version / normal version )

and less comsumption Ram in Programs. :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] aleck1:
yeah, i'm also searching WM 6.5 ROM with all "Nice and Shiny" removed - to free up RAM and to save battery. All glittering TOUCHFLO / Modified menus etc. should be removed. Just very lite and basic WM 6.5

some sort of super light rom would be great!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] nickislauw:
hi guys,

i recommend donsalari clean basic rom.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=549460
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Android*XDA:
Thanks nickislauw
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] nickislauw:
No problem,i hope you like it. and a pros is that the battery life is also verry good.

//nick
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] eshqy:
For get better battery life with donsalari rom, use radio 1.17.25.09. It'll standby 3-3.5 days. And 2 days with normal use.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Android*XDA:
thanck`s, i use radio 1.17.25.09
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] johnyboy_:
Try this one:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=551294

Is my second choice after BSB rom, fortunately isn't actualized anymore.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] nickschot:
Or mine which is based on his :D.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] extrapurifier:
Can fully recommend ATLAS ROM. Fast, stable and a very good mixture of needed and non-needed additional software! :D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Android*XDA:
Post link when you say about a ROM. :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Android*XDA:
A very good Complete Tweak CAB of DonSalari

this is a good Tweak cab for phone and nice. :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] AF_624:
after use many roms i recomend you the BsB Ultimate 6.5 or 6.5.1

I´m using it for a few weeks and its very fast and stable!!! one of the best roms i have ever try!:cool:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] extrapurifier:
Nickschot already postet the link and you can find it in my signature :D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] thecrazyman64:
Try Don`s ROM. I`m using it for a week [last version] and never had problems with it.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Android*XDA:
thanks, but i have problem with QuikGPS i can not instal, on Don`s ROM last version
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] thecrazyman64:
What does it say?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Android*XDA:
The rom is Don Salari [SuperLite v1.0] [30/4/2010] Titanium

The file 'QuickGPS' cannot be opened.Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of its components cannot be found. If the problem persist, try reinstalling or restoring this file.

And i have 4 version of QuickGPS :

1. HTC QuickGPS 1_00_220821_00.CAB

2. quickgps_1815.2630.2.cab

3. QuickGPS_1_1_19173021_01.cab

4. QuickGPS_Vga_by_Swtos.cab

None of them go, after I installed I did soft reset and nothing.:mad::mad::mad:

" cine este roman , va rog scrieti in romana / Who is Romain, please write in Romanian "
[XPERIA X1 General] svetius:
Hey everyone,

We're getting a lot of people asking us to make an X2 set of forums (to include general, ROM development, accessories, themes and apps). Alternatively, we could just simply back a sub forum under the X1 heading for the X2. We're learning towards the second option, but please, give your insights in this poll.
[XPERIA X1 General] comeradealexi:
Its a different device so it sould really have its own forum otherwise its going to confuse people