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[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] oluwaponmile:
Lagging/Unresponsiveness after install

I install the messaging client 2014 and it becomes almost impossible to type in the messaging application, it is very unresponsive, does anyone has a solution for this? I have read all the post with no clear instruction on how to overcome this unresponsiveness.

Any help will be appreciated
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] -Vulture-:
HTC Messaging Client 1.5.20143625.cab, i got it somewhere from this thread packed with the 2622 in one archive. Are there different versions around here?

Edit: Post 185, got it from clarkdevlin there. Disabled Sense, installed it, soft reset and activated Sense again. It works and its adifferent version, but the loading lag is still there.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] jas0nw0ng:
I've read all 24 pages, there is a not a HTC messaging lag fix in this thread that has worked for me. I'm using HTC Messaging Client 1.5.20143625.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] JamesRC:
In my experience, messaging 3625 does not remove all lag, but it does reduce it.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] dicksonjoe:
hmm it says I don't have the permission to install it. What do I do now?

thanks
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] moooxooom:
hmmm I've been using the past few versions of the client, all with no lags.

my biggest conversation is about 580 msgs long, and I can swype immediately. Had been using 3625 myself for the past week with secured inbox. Rom is self-cooked with chunks of unused wm6.5.5 bits taken out, with the latest HTC modules..

Here's what I do, I don't get lags at all with 1500+ smses.

0) ensure no mmses (esp picture mmses) in the inbox

1) back up the inbox, sentbox, and draft into separate files

2) hard reset/ or install new rom

3) restore only the draft folder

4) restore only the sent folder

5) restore only the inbox folder

6) wait 20s, soft-reset

7) repeat #6 a good 3 - 10 times (more is safer, but normally 5 is gd enough)

Anyway I used to back up my msgs all in 1 file, I seemed to face some lag. then for testing, i tried something differently.. If you've nothing to lose other than your time, might as well try it. This method works for me since manila 2010.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Tunay:
If I had so much time to use on my Leo, I would get PRO! :D

This is why I have my desire trough...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] -Vulture-:
Hm i cant even say that...well at least i think so. Cause i didnt observe it enough to see any difference. But still...i think nothing has changed in terms of loading times.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] HyperNode:
Raptor One, thanks for your reply so I went ahead and did as you suggested and found this on my attempt.

I disabled Sense and as I am using TMo 2.13 rom it already has messaging client 1.5 (2014.3625) installed by default. So I went ahead and replaced \Windows\MessagingClientDll.dll.0409.mui with the one posted in this thread. I re-enabled Sense and restarted the HD2. To my surprise the messaging client crashed and nothing is working at all. I can't even bring new message template much less send to anyone or check any submenu to see secure box, as I click "All Messages" or "Menu" nothing happens. So thinking that it was incompatible or the 1.5 (2014.3625) that was posted here was custom modded I attempted to install it and it gave me insufficient permission so I couldn't install it. So I rolled back and using the stocked messaging client that already came with 2.13 as it didn't work.

So my question still stands has anyone successfuly tested secure box on 3625? as I read some where on this very thread that 3625 is the one without secure box. If so does it mean I have to revert back to 2622? this brings me back to the same old question what are the difference between 2622 and 3625? anyone point me in the right direction also make sure its tested.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Raptor One:
I performed the steps I outlined in my last post using the latest EnergyROM (TMO HD2) right after flashing via XDA_UC. The ROM doesn't have the HTC messaging client installed by default. The permission error you get probably has something to do with the messaging_client.exe running in the background or the messaging_client.exe process still running. Make sure messaging_client is really closed and that the process isn't running. Then try copying the .mui file to \Windows.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] HyperNode:
Everything is good and all but here is the thing. On Task Manager under normal view nothing was running, unless you mean still running in the background under process in that case nothing else is also running that has Message or Messging_Client on it.

Now I did successfully replace the MessagingClientDll.dll.0409.mui in \Windows but the prolems started afterward. As it didn't seem compatable as nothing else worked even basic messaging was hard to achieve.

Now my question is can you have secure box on 3625? if so is it stable and successfully running?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Gootah:
No MMS?

Is anybody else gettin a MMS download error?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] bigdreco:
NO MMS

yes im getting the same error now.. I cant send MMSes and when I try to recieve them im getting a download error..

any fix for this??

im running the latest MightyRom on the TP2..
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] onesolo:
Did u guys run again the Connection Setup?? When installing a new Messaging Client, the MMS server configuration is wipe out...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] eddyve:
How do you backup inbox, etc seperately? It doesn't work with pimbackup.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] madindehead:
Use Microsoft MyPhone. Works a treat.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] onesolo:
I'm using Pimbackup to backup sms (and all the other stuff) and never did have a problem with HTC Messaging, in fact, it's only with Pimbackup that I can get the picture within the conversation mode for example..
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] txlatino1983:
I been reporting the same issue about nothing happening when selecting "All Messages" i've followed every step and still a no-go.. Seems like the stock 2.13 Tmo version has other files associated with original MUI file that the replacement MUI doesn't start up..
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] bigdreco:
no MMS

if you are talking about the provision device.. where you pick what phone company you have and it installs all the stuff for it.. then yes I have.. if you are talking about something else can you explain where I will find it because it still is not working..

thanks!!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] moooxooom:
:D ah well, the backup and restore portion takes less than 30s.. the problem is with the restarting....

hmmm I use jeyo mobile companion. Think you can just get the trial ver to back up and restore.. :D I also think there are quite a few software out there that allows you to access your sms folders, send sms + back up..

Anyway i think possibly by backing up all at a go should do fine too, but...

Any of you ever noticed that there's an extra "conversation" folder in your smses (you can't see it on the phone. you need a desktop software to view)? That's what Manila uses to track the latest msg of the conversation. I noticed that when I did a full back-up, it included the conversation folder, and restoring the conversation folder screwed up and lagged manila to no end (at least in manila 2010).

That's why i backed the folders up one by one to exclude the conversation folder.

I suspect most of the back up software were made for the general windows mobile phone, and would include the "conversation" folder in the backup.. causing some people to have lags..
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Tunay:
Yeah, restore and backup is no problem. But ... :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] moooxooom:
Yes I'm using it on my rom with the MUI on 3625. The menu works fine.. (I cooked it into my rom)

However, I just tested it.. clicking on the secured box options doesn't do anything. hmmmmmmm so i think it might not actually work on the 3625..

Let me recook with a 2622 and test..
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] moooxooom:
heh heh 5 min of pain, many many many days of joy. Unless you're a flash junkie (like me).
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Tunay:
I'm like you. :D

This is why I bought Desire I was using it as my main phone but I really miss the Leo's screen. So my Desire is somewhere in my room now.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] moooxooom:
LOL well.. Leo is good.. gives me good excuses to make snide remarks..

Just the other day a couple of iphone addicts asked why a techie like me doesn't use iphone, so I told them iphone's screen is too small. LOL.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Tunay:
LOL, I hate Iphone. I bought one tou, but I gave it to my father as he wanted a easy phone to use. But he still wanted to watch TV, check mails etc. But now he try to sell it.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] moooxooom:
Ok confirmed and tested.. the secure box is 100% working with 2622, not working with 3625.

Menu works fine for both.

Message client for both works fine.

No lag for both (for me).

I noticed that the packages for 2622 also created some extra registry keys, so I'm not sure if the registry keys affected the fact that I can't get 3625 to get into the secure mode.

Can't do very thorough testing as I'm flying off to Taiwan for Computex in a few hours, so pls do further investigations if you would like.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] moooxooom:
LOL that's twice I've flashed my phone, just to test 2 packages.. heh the flashing process takes too long..

heh well.. iPhone can do alot more. Just get your father to jailbreak it, access the app stores for free and download all that he needs.

:D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Tunay:
Good trip dude!

I'm going to hard reset my Leo tomorrow, and try it out!

No, jailbreaking won't help. Be cause he don't like batterylife and wants bigger screen! :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] chrisrj28:
I always use Microsoft Myphone to backup my text messages, works just fine for me at least.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] moooxooom:
think if I'm not wrong MS Myphone does it folder by folder too.. without the conversation folder...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] NeoDoRant:
Hi all!

Is there a chance that this will work on 1.66 Stock ROM's? I couldn't install the cab and as I replaced the files manually, HTC Sense crashed all the time I wanted to open a message.

Thanks for you help!

Cheers
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] chewee133:
Hi,

I wasn't able to install neither of the .cab of this thread. But when i insisted, it crashed Sense. Since then, Sense is unable to start and i have nothing to uninstall since i didn't even manage to install those .cab...

Back to the good old Windows home tab while i find a way to fix this. All help is welcomed ;)

May the force be with you
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Fame123:
Hi

noob question: do you install on phone or memory card?

is it actually in eng or chinese? and is it actually got the secure box working properly now?

thanks.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] chrisrj28:
No need to post twice lol, you install on phone memory and yes the secure box works with 2622 version. It's in English by the way
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ahirshfield:
Missing sliders in unified "Contact" screen.

Hi All, please can I ask some help or even a possible explanation...

In stock/other roms, when you click on a contact in HTC contacts, or a message in the HTC Messages application, there are usually five slider-tabs:

Details; Messages; Email; Updates & Events; Call History (All)​

When using build 1.5.20143625 from http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6531875&postcount=103 (Latest version complete with all English buttons - but LACKS secure-box feature), I now only have three slider-tabs: Details; Messages; Call History

Please can anyone else confirm:

Are they also missing from everyone else using this Build or are they also missing when using other builds from this thread (ie. 1.5.20143625)?

Is there any way to restore the other missing slider-tabs?

Many adTHANKSvance,

Hirshy
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] AngelDeath:
Secure Box Capabilities ***Testing Phase***

I know I'm going to start a can of worms here. Please do not ask as of right now I am not offering. ***Testing Phase***

I have been watching this thread off and on for quite sometime now, and all the back and forth thats been going on about this, Let me put this to rest once and for all for the "time being".

The HTC messaging Secure box feature, is CAPABLE and available in all existing roms starting from at least to the best of my knowledge the build it originated from : 2014.2622. All subsequent builds after this, INCLUDING Build 2014.3625 Is capable of this.

Again I am not offering this to anyone so don't ask! The reason? I offered my findings to (1) Cooker. If he chooses not to include this in his rom, or after his rom is cooked, if he doesnt care, I'll release a cab. I spent hours digging thru the messaging system for the lag and why some got the secure box feature and others didnt, and I found the solution to Secure Box. I offered it to one cooker opposed to posting it, because that one cooker has taken enormous amount of time to help me learn to cook my own roms for my own personal use and to experiment with, and I feel as reciprocation he should have my finding first.

Now to have some insight to the people about my secure box experience:

I have heard secure box doesnt work correctly, the answer is mine works I think as its suppose to. It doesnt reveal any msgs when going to the contacts info and going to the sms tab, Its a BLANK sms screen. It does not stay in the Secure box screen once the screen goes off, it automatically blanks the tab out, or will go back to the all msgs screen of the non-secure screen. In my opinion to the best of my knowledge from what I know it works the way its meant to work.

Also there is (2) Deleted Items folders. 1) Non-Secure Box and 1) Secure Box.

Some limitations:

When tapping "Back" in Secure-Box, it takes you back to the Manila Msg screen. (Bug or program infancy)

Any VIP msgs (Secure) come in, it will notify you, but will show you an icon on the top bar of the phone, there is no (1) bubble screen when tabbing to the Manila Msg screen. (By Design)

Entering the Non-secure all msg screen clears the msg notification on the top bar. (Bug, or program infancy)

When opening secure box it asks for a password, you cannot change the keyboard layout at all (Full Qwerty Only), Possibly by design, my opinion its a bug. Currently there is no landscape capability for the password screen on the LEO/HD2.

TP2 (Tilt2) users, my current testing, I might have stumbled across landscape capablity for entering the password only with the slide out keyboard. still testing and seeing if auto-rotate will keep intact the screen.

Any questions feel free to add to this post and I will try to the best of my ability to answer them.

Thanx for reading.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] eddyve:
Let me clarify my question. I don't have a problem to backup or restore messages. I am using PPCPimBackup and I MyPhone. Since someone suggested to restore inbox and sent items seperately, I was wondering how he did it, since I don't see how you can do so. With pimbackup you only have an option to restore (backup) messages, not inbox, etc.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] GbNoR:
I'm very curious ... What is our findings, that not already explain in this thread?

That using the mui's, that u find in the first package, can/must be used to get the Secure box option for ver 3625, or changing the attribute on some system files, in the package?

I have installed this on my Touch Pro, and it working fine. Just one bug, that is driving me crazy. I get no notification tone, when receiving a message.

I get the led and bubble, but no tone and vibration... :o

Edit: Never mind, got it working :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ali68g:
screwed my touch hd :(

I installed the cab file on my touch hd, it didn't work and I wasn't able to enter my sms inbox, I removed it and things got back to normal except my phone dosen't notify me anymore when a new text message arrives! thee green LED dosn't work and even S2U2 can't show new message icon on screen :( plz help me out of this trouble.

p.s. tried hard reset, useless :(
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] kyd:
Is anyone know how to change back the SMS notification icon when a new SMS come? I manage to install and have the secure box running but the notification icon has change from the normal icon to an envelope like the e-mail notification icon. Many thanks :confused::confused:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ali68g:
LED notification light

Installed all cab files and tried all tricks, none worked but don't mind, uninstalled messaging client and now got my standard inbox back, the only thing is my LED doesn't flash when there's a new msg. I really need it back! plz help me

I own touch hd
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Bib_x:
Where can i find german version of this new version as cab?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] AngelDeath:
My findings are on going, as of right now, My findings are showing me that any ROM (currently unsure of any ROM prior to 1.72) 1.72+ (Telstra) HD2 any language can have secure box (only have tested Korean, Chinese and English). Touch Pro 2 ALL ROMS 2.07+ can have secure box.

I am further testing, and also seeing if this feature has been in the touch pro 2 prior to ROM 2.07 (MY speculation is it has been).

But again, I have offered my findings to 1 cooker, if they choose not to use it, or says they dont care I offer my findings to the community, then I will, but again, I am still testing my theory and so far I'm right.

I'm Sorry if this all sounds vague to you. But know that getting secure box functional is basically like a light switch, on/off.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] AngelDeath:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=6657638#post6657638

Keep an eye out on this thread!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] apsis:
Ok im allready losing my mind on this, hope someone may help me.

I have a Touch HD with Blackstonhenge Hyper 1.5 Rom (Manila 2.5 / WM 6.5.5)

All the time i try any of the HTC Messaging Clients, my Notifications for Textmessages will get lost. As long as the Phone is in Standby i will receive no Notifications. If i turn on the Screen i will get the Messages, thats pretty annoying. I tried Motorboy Jonny's Solution. My "MUI" within the registry is 1033 (English US). I downloaded his Zip-Archive and renamed all files to :

textmsgclass0.1033

smssendfailed.1033

... and so on. Than i put them all into the Windows-folder and did a Softreset (HTC Sense was turned off, HTC Messaging was killed by Taskmanager)

than like two or three times i will get Notifications in Standby, but than without changing anything, it will stop giving me Notifications again.

I also changed my "MUI" to the Germanlanguagecodeand also the *.html files, but it also didnt work.

I again flashed the whole Device again with the same Rom, using Task29 before to clean up the whole Partition. On the clean Device there's Notifications working (HTC Messaging 2.1 installed). Than i again tried to install the new Messaging Client, i allready tried :

2622

3625

3625 (edited by Wajk)

all the time replaced the html-files again with the one with my languagecode, but than always Notifications wont work in Standby. There can't be any Program corrupting this, since i tried it with my clean flashed Device, without installing something different.

I hope someone may give me some helpfull Solution. I dont need SecureBox, but i need my Notifications work in Standby.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ali68g:
I have the same notification problem, please let me know if you found the answer :) Ali68g@yahoo.com thnx
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] apsis:
What stands under (Registry) "HKCU --> MUI --> CurLang" ?

And which Version of HTC Messaging Client do you use?

Ok i found out that i get Notifications, even in Standby when -> the device is plugged into the batterycharger. If it isn't plugged in, i wont get any notifications anymore.

can you test if the same happens to you?

and does anyone has a solution for this? cant find anything useful in the registry yet :/
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] AngelDeath:
Try this Fix in this thread and see if your problem goes away.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=6576212#post6576212
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] apsis:
Thx mate, but it doesnt work for me. Still no Notifications in Standby except it is plugged into its charger.

Thats what i find under:

Hkey_Current_User -> ControlPanel -> Notifications -> {A877D65B-...} :

AvailableOptions : 11

Default : Message: New Message

Duration: 5

Options: 3

Wave: \Windows\Alert-Twitter.wav

Can anyone compare this with his registry? The only yet working Solution i've found is to enable WakeuponSMS (cant find the registryentry yet), than the Notification will come immediatley but it also turns on the Screen from the Device, so it isnt useful yet for me. :/

Maybe there's something messed up within its Powermanagement? Will take a look if i can find something.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Tunay:
I did a hardreset then installed the cab few pages back and restored my backup of sms from myphone with about 700-800 SMS and my Leo went incredbly slow. I Flashed back again, and now it is fine with stock WWE's message app!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] MalekoUK:
3625 works the fastest for me, no secure box, but don't need it anyways.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Tunay:
That one I tried did not have secure box either.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] negawolf:
Guys, I know it's embarrasing...but...how to know the messaging client version? sorry for my stupid question....
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] jtalley88:
MMS

Can some one please tell me how to get my mms working again i cant send no pics at all
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] GbNoR:
You have to run connection setup :) That worked for me.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ianPhillips1:
Hmmm.

Could it have something to do with how in the windows client we used to have to change the "connect by" data connection, WAP, Work, etc... and to get MMS working you needed to select "Internet" and unfortunately 2014 doesn't have an Internet option. That is the only option I have found not to be present. Just an old school issue wearing new sneakers. The question is how do we get "Internet as an option".

PS - I think the 2014 is much faster and a whole lot less lag, no need for a secure in box, lock your phone;)

Ian
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] the_bandito:
Thoughts on the SMS and what I'm currently using.

I found faria's client on page 15 or 16 of this thread and his cab didn't work but unzipping the folder over my windows dir and installing the reg file did. It's based on the 2014 client with some speed optimizations and other tidbits according to faria. It's faster than stock and it has a secure box. Swype is still delayed but works better. I haven't really looked into how secure the secure box is but it seems to do a decent job of covert messaging.

If you don't want to lock your phone but want to avoid concrete incriminating evidence the secure box does the trick. You will still have call logs and contacts but you have deniability there.

One caveat however is i can't figure out how to remove someone's vip status. I haven't yet removed the entire contact but will try that if all else fails. If anyone has bashed it out post it up so the others can make use of it.

All the best,

The Bandito
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] brolee93:
hi boys a rom dutty have a new version of htc messassing where dl his ?

Updated Message_Enhancement_1_2_20144030_00