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[Droid Incredible Accessories] Xxq TZ pxX:
$14.99 + free shipping for a battery that lasts all day from moderate use? This sounds great and I'm ready to buy it now! ... But is it safe to use this battery with an Incredible?
[Droid Incredible Accessories] Xxq TZ pxX:
That's sweet. I'm guessing you're referring to the Seidio 1750 mAh battery? Where did you get it from? Thanks!
[Droid Incredible Accessories] suzook:
I dont know, but my seideco 1750 def gets me 3 more hours a day on my Incredible. I have switched back and forth from stock and the extended...the extended wins EVERYTIME...so Im not sure about that report.
[Droid Incredible Accessories] theoneownz:
@ suzook

I read that my OEM TP2 rated as one of the best.

TP2 OEM standard issue	Rated @ 1500mAh Tested @ 1414mAh

Most Likely our stock incredible battery has a lower mAh then it actually states it is.

@ Xxq TZ pxX

Yes it will work because its in my phone now working like a champ ;O)

I also told someone else here like myself who swapped from the tp2 ====> incredible and he seen it first hand as-well.
[Droid Incredible Accessories] linuxophile:
TP2 batteries work fine

Hey all,

The TP2 battery works fine. Same size and 200mAh more than stock... in fact I've seen them sold on Fommy.com as the thin extended battery for $44.95. Don't be fooled, and just go buy the TP2 batteries. They're cheaper if you don't need the therapy session of a rebranding.

Enjoy!

P.S. Got a workaround for Skype too... :)
[Droid Incredible Accessories] mycomputerisjunk:
I'm sure a number of HTC CDMA phones have interchangeable batteries.

I swapped out the 1500mAh battery from my Sprint Hero and put it into my Incredible. It's easily out lasting the stock incredible battery.
[Droid Incredible Accessories] mrmomoman:
I ordered the 1500 HTC battery as well. Between those to staying charged I am not worried about it.

Also anyone know of a battery charger for these types of batteries?
[Droid Incredible Accessories] gamer4208:
For those of you that want a red 1500mah battery I found this but im not sure if its oem or not it just says its an htc extra capacity battery hxxp://shop.htcpedia.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=825
[Droid Incredible Accessories] mach1man:
Has anyone ordered the seidio 1750 off of amazon? There are some mixed reviews about it, like it gets hot when using it and it doesn't last that much longer than stock. Anyone using this battery and like it?
[Droid Incredible Accessories] br125:
get the stock touch pro 2 1500mah battery, it was shown to have tested better than the seidio 1750. I have the seidio battery and I'm not impressed. I conditioned it with full charge/discharge cycles as well and will probably buy the touchpro2 battery for $15, can't beat that price
[Droid Incredible Accessories] mach1man:
Thanks for that info. I'm waiting on my mail in rebate then I'm buying some accessories for the phone. By the way nice bike.
[Droid Incredible Accessories] jonnybueno:
I just ordered mine but it isn't expected to arrive till the 14th since I went with the free shipping. I'll definitely post a review when I get a chance to test it. I keep thinking that I should've gone with better shipping, but 41$ was expensive enough.
[Droid Incredible Accessories] mach1man:
Where did you find touch pro 2 battery for $15? Is it oem
[Droid Incredible Accessories] br125:
Thanks! There's a link in this thread somewhere to eBay for the tp2 battery. OEM $15 free shipping
[Droid Incredible Accessories] mrchambo:
I'm using the extra battery I bought for my HTC Ozone. It's rated @ 1650 mah. Just decided to try it tonight. Will report back on results...

JC
[General Questions and Answers] mca1490:
Hi , as you know the samsung omnia is very famous for getting bricked... , I was flashing my omnia and I got mine bricked... So , Im asking to the forum , If there is any TRUSTED PLACE where I can send my phone for repair???

please ... hope you can help me :D !!!

I will be waiting for your comments and experiences !!!

thanks!!! ... Btw , Im in United States
[General Questions and Answers] orb3000:
Go to Samsung repair

nothing more trustful than that:eek::cool:
[General Questions and Answers] mca1490:
hmmm , I thought on that but , I did want to know if anyone have had the phone bricked-repaired ...

thanks!!!

I'm open to other suggestions !!!

anyone!?
[HD2 General] pozativenrgy:
I was wondering, why are there 2 different forums for the HD2. As in the HD2 Leo and the T-Mobile USA HD2?
[HD2 General] donalgodon:
Because, despite their obvious similarities, there are some big differences hidden inside.

The bottom line is this:

Flashing a European HD2 with a T-Mobile US Radio/ROM combination will not harm it in any way, the opposite is not true.

A T-Mobile US HD2 can be "bricked" (rendered totally and completely inoperable) by flashing a ROM/Radio combination created for the European HD2.

There is also a slight difference in the physical dimensions (1.5 mm longer) and the connectors on the bottom of the US version do not support many docks from the Euro version, and a few cases, etc.

It's a wise decision to separate them, in this sense.
[HD2 General] pozativenrgy:
Thank you.
[HD2 General] sirphunkee:
It's ok to go looking over in the "other" HD2 forums (I really need to spend more time over there in fact)...most anything you find over there other than radios and roms should work on the US HD2, save for a handful of things that might have carrier incompatibility. There's a ton more tweaks and visual elements up for grabs over there, so don't be shy!

Also be sure to check out the regular winmo section of the xda forums...often there's cool stuff there too that will apply to most all WM phones of a certain OS version or build, that might not get visibility in the sections related to particular models.
[HD2 General] donalgodon:
Exactly. I realize that it can be confusing, but if you just remember the simple fact about Radios/ROMs, just about everything else on the Leo section should apply to you as well.

Still, odds are that somebody out there right now is flashing the wrong Radio/ROM and bricking their TMOUS HD2 and they'll show up here posting a "Hellllp Meeeee" kind of thread because they did not read carefully enough. :D
[HD2 General] Snarksneeze:
...at which point, in a collective voice, we shall cry out, "Try and return it to T-Mobile, 'cause you really screwed the pooch this time!"

There is absolutely no fix for flashing any ROM other than TMOUS ROMs on our phones. None.

Gripe: I wish to God Tmobile had insisted on calling it the HD3. I'll bet there would have been very few people complaining, especially considering the amount of confusion it has caused when it comes to accessories and the like!
[HD2 General] friend'scatdied:
HD3!? No way! Maybe HD2+ or HD2 Pro. :D It DOES have the extra ROM and soft-unlocked RAM to justify the name..
[HD2 General] Snarksneeze:
It has the 1ghz Snapdragon, capacitive touch, an upgraded chasis. If the Euro version had been released officially in the States, you can bet this would have been the HD3.

Why would it not qualify for that?
[HD2 General] friend'scatdied:
Because the Euro HD2 also has the 1GHz Snapdragon, capacitive touch, and a better chassis in the sense that it's 1.5mm shorter? The T-Mobile HD2 is 1.5mm taller where it doesn't need to be.

HD3 would need a better-than-Snapdragon processor, more hardware RAM, and a bigger camera. Probably a bigger screen, too.
[HD2 General] jordinho:
lolz.. +1
[HD2 General] rickyoon.vegas:
Personally, I think 4.3" is as large as a phone screen can be.

I'm sure there will be bigger ones, but just think about it.

HD2 is pretty hard to navigate from bottom to top, especially the corners with just one hand and your thumb.

My phone sits on the bottom half of the phone in order to swype with one thumb. I have to physically move my hand position or stretch my thumb up in order to click on the notification bar up top. Now, I've a big hand (not that big, but can grip basketball with one hand firmly-ish), and can't imagine how people with smaller hands would do with this phone.
[HD2 General] gsvnet:
Yeah, I don't think it's warranted to call this phone the HD3, but HD2+ wouldn't be so bad...similar to how there's the Palm Pre vs Palm Pre Plus.
[HD2 General] friend'scatdied:
Yeah, it doesn't make sense to go larger. But this is HTC we're talking about.:p It wouldn't be a member of the HD series if it didn't have a freakishly, nonsensically large screen.

Especially since Motorola is rumored to be encroaching upon the turf with their 4.3" (again, rumored) Shadow and Droid 2 handsets.

Eventually the HD5's gonna be the size of an iPad. :D
[HD2 General] sirphunkee:
I think I just messed my pants.
[HD2 General] Snarksneeze:
Now I am really glad I don't have to ride the bus home with you in the afternoons. :\
[HD2 General] donalgodon:
I am 100% in agreement with that. I think that 4.3 inches is the sweet spot between between performance and bulkiness, and I would not want anything bigger. The HD2 dimensions are perfect for me in every respect.

The slim profile and the large screen are the first two things people comment on when then they notice my phone.
[HD2 General] jubeh:
My problem with the screen is not so much that it's tall but that it's wide, even with my wide palms. There was a device by LG that got canceled, it had a 4.8" screen, 1024x480 resolution, and it's screen was slimmer but taller than the HD2's (http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/26/lg-gw990-shows-up-on-video-competes-with-htc-hd2-for-cameras-a/).

I'd like to see one such device from HTC, but loaded with Android/Sense of course, but with a pixel density that further takes advantage of the display size (1280x600?).

Anyway, back on topic. I read on the Linux on HTC project thread a comment made by the OP that the differences between both devices are just marketing? Is this true? AFAIK, the devices are really physically different (in their hardware) in the NAND size and the version of the QSD8k (regular versus version "A"), which accounts for the T-Mo US' adding AWS band support that's missing from the Euro version, thus requiring a different kernel to enable full 3G support on ours, is this true or is that thread's OP right. Or is he just talking from a standpoint of getting the linux kernel to boot and run on the device and storage size, AWS support are secondary?
[HD2 General] zarathustrax:
As fars I know, the only difference is the rom chip... euro version has 512mb chip and Tmous HD2 has 1GB chip. The different 3g bands don't make a difference when it comes to software or the kernel it uses i dont think. There's no difference like that with the t8585 and t9193 which uses different bands... tmous is just set to get different 3g bands. Our radio has to be one set to use the full ram unlike the euro version, but there's really not any hardware differences than the rom size.
[HD2 General] Doppler808:
I honestly think the difference was due to Windows mobile 7. I think HTC HD2 came out in Europe it was spec'd to handle Windows mobile 7. The date got pushed then the requirements changed. HTC updated it with the T-Mobile HD2 and then 7 got pushed again, and requirements changed again. Now HTC has 2 devices that won't get an official 7 update.

That's what I think it was, but I wasn't going to put 7 on anyways. From what I have seen the office tools I don't mind having, but everything else isn't worth my time.
[HD2 General] Tbaba:
I'm at a crossroads and need advice. Should I get the Tmobile HD2 or Euro HD2. My carrier supports 2100Mhz 3g. I am leaning towards the tmobile siply because of the larger RAM and ROM. Is it really worth it? I also love the couloured buttons. Any advice/help is much appreciated...
[HD2 General] friend'scatdied:
Euro can use all ROMs, TMOUS can only use ROMs made for the TMOUS version. 512MB of extra ROM does not make a performance difference.

The TMOUS version is generally cheaper but it seems like a no-brainer to me to get the Euro version.
[HD2 General] makind1:
Definitely go for EU versoin. If somethings happens to your phone, you can buy spare parts on ebay. You can not do that for TMo version, because is different, dont match EU parts and noone on ebay is selling TMo parts!
[HD2 General] Snarksneeze:
Are you trying to say that the 1GHZ Snapdragon Processor is not enough to make a performance difference?
[HD2 General] donalgodon:
No, just the extra ROM storage space won't really make the phone function better. A bigger trunk doesn't speed up your car.
[HD2 General] friend'scatdied:
How many times do I have to tell you!?!?!?

The ONLY differences between the two HD2 are:

1. The TMOUS HD2 is physically 1.5mm taller.

2. The TMOUS HD2 has an additional 3G HSDPA band on AWS (1700MHz).

3. The TMOUS HD2 has 512MB more ROM (1GB on TMOUS, 512MB on Euro).

4. The TMOUS has 128MB RAM unlocked over the Euro (576MB on TMOUS by default, 448MB on Euro with 128MB normally reserved for graphics).

The rest of the specifications are the SAME.

They BOTH have the 1GHz Snapdragon processor.

Sorry for yelling, this is a point I have to get across before you infect the uninformed with misinformation.
[HD2 General] makind1:
You don’t have to yell man :-)

Different are also parts inside. So if you broke your screen or something on your HD2 Tmo you have a big problem because parts for EU version (tons all over ebay) will not fit and noone at this point sells TMo parts.
[HD2 General] Tbaba:
The RAM will make a difference

what about the difference in RAM? Is it possible (and easy) to make the Euro version 576Mb too? Is the difference in RAM and cheapeer price worth it to buy tmobile? Thanks.
[HD2 General] makind1:
You can use some cooked rom that enables 576RAM. Considering you question about buying TMo version. I have the same problem. I bought TMO version because its half price of EU version and now thinking if I should exchange it for no money to EU and loose 1GB ROM or if I should stick to TMo and hope, that someone will starts selling TMo parts on ebay.
[HD2 General] jubeh:
I bought the one with the 1 GB rom because, 1. eventually, it will be enough space to dual boot winmo and any other(s) os from internal memory, and 2. without the aws band, I get no 3G in t-mobile, so euro version was a no-go for me
[HD2 General] friend'scatdied:
Yes, the chassis (including screen and digitizer) are slightly different. The radio chip is obviously different and the mainboard must also be slightly different in size in order to accommodate the radio chip and alternate ROM configuration.

I bolded it out 'cause the guy I was responding to seems to be convinced otherwise. He must be clueless about the Euro HD2, yet he seems to ignore my posts that observe the truth.
[HD2 General] Snarksneeze:
Let 'im yell, I put this one on my ignore list a while back for something or other. Doesn't bother me any at all ;)
[HD2 General] friend'scatdied:
I feel sorry for the people that guy misleads. He's spreading misinformation, and that is the most dishonest thing you can do in a forum built on aggregate knowledge. It's not just ignorant, it's destructive.

I've finally figured it out. Snarksneeze is living in a different world (Texas, evidently :p) where he very obviously is confusing the Euro HD2 with the original Touch HD. This is the only reason he'd think that the TMOUS HD2 has a Snapdragon, capacitive screen and upgraded chassis as advantages when they aren't advantages at all (both TMOUS and Euro HD2s have these same features). It's okay, it's a pretty honest mistake to make.

So, according to this thread, three models of the HTC HD2, and the only differences:

I. Euro T8585

1. 120.5x67x11mm

2. 512MB ROM

3. 448MB RAM, 128MB system reserved (presumably for graphics chip)

3a. "Hidden" 128MB RAM is "unlockable" using XDA ROMs, for 576MB RAM

4. Can use all XDA ROMs (including TMOUS ROMs).

5. 900/2100MHz HSDPA

II. Australian T9193

1-4 as above.

5. 850/2100MHz HSDPA (compatible with Telstra natively; compatible with 850MHz areas for AT&T, Rogers, and Fido).

6. Telstra logos on back bottom.

III. TMOUS PB811200

1. 121x67x11mm (different parts, different cases required)

2. 1GB ROM

3. 576MB RAM fully unlocked by default.

4. Can ONLY use TMOUS ROMs. ROMs designed for any other devices will brick the phone.

5. 1700/2100MHz HSDPA (AWS, compatible with TMOUS and Wind).

6. SIM locked by default, unlockable.

7. T-Mobile logo below earpiece, above screen.

Reason III4 is why these separate forums exist. Contingent to III4 and I4 and II4 is the greater support for the Euro/Aus HD2s, with more cooks and more ROMs at the disposal of owners.
[HD2 General] zarathustrax:
I thought the T-Mo US HD2 had a different model number.... where do you see the 8585 model # on it?

Good write-up of the differences of the HD2s... you're right... after re-reading the thread, it does sound like snarksneeze thinks the euro HD2 has a different processor and screen, which is not true. The euro and US HD2s are pretty much the same device, with the minor differences you have listed above.
[HD2 General] friend'scatdied:
I may be wrong here.. just reading it from random websites and eBay listings. Either way, they should've made a new model designation for the TMOUS HD2 at the very least. I'm sure that would simplify the accessory headache as well.
[HD2 General] zelendel:
Your right The model number for the T-Mobile US version of the HD 2 is PB811200
[HD2 General] friend'scatdied:
Interesting! Doesn't follow the naming scheme of the others at all (especially with regard to prefixing for product classes, e.g. T9193, S620, et alia).

HTC Corp is full of weirdos. Look at all the different variations of the Touch Pro (Fuze), Touch Pro2 (Tilt 2), Diamond2 (Pure), Hero (Sprint Hero), et alia. The different carrier version don't look the same at all! I wonder why they do this, or why carriers want such blatant visual differences.
[HD2 General] sirphunkee:
It's one of the many techniques the carriers use to get the unwashed masses to believe they have to stick with (or move to) a particular carrier to get a particular model of phone.

Also, I'd be very careful about using e-bay listings as product info reference...just today I've seen almost a dozen listings for the HD2 with incorrect model or other information listed.
[HD2 General] Snarksneeze:
@friend'scatdied

You are correct. When I first heard the "512" vs "1024" push for the TMOUS version, I assumed this was the processor and not the physical RAM.

I assumed your follow up post was an attack, and so I blocked you and only got the rest of your information when other's replied and I unblocked you.

I owe you and everyone else here at XDA-DEV a deep apology for my mistake and the dangerous assumption that it led to.

Your write-up on the different versions is awesome and I hope that sets the record straight. Thank you for taking the time to correct me.
[HD2 General] friend'scatdied:
No need to apologize my friend, I understand that I come off as a little abrasive at times. :D

It's this syndrome:

I usually posthumously edit my posts to prevent them from sounding too harsh, but sometimes it's too late. No harm done, everyone's better for it. ;) After all, both of our phones are about equally awesome.
[HD2 General] Tbaba:
Ah, the sweet smell of love and friendship in the XDA forum. Dont you love it....

By the way, I've decided to buy the t8585. Its easier to get where I am (albeit about 150USD more expensive) But when you factor in the cost of shipping it from the states it still worth it. Also as advised i have a wider option of accessories and parts. I should recieve the phone next week.

What's the best ROM with unlocked 576Mb? I no there are a whole bunch of option, but i want your opinons. Thanks guys

Also, all the ones being sold here have 2Gb or 8Gb Sandisk MicroSD, I thought it came with 16Gb? Can someone clarify.. is it sandisk too?
[HD2 General] Xerocus:
I would go with the latest Energy, or Artimis roms - mostly because it's always updated, functional, and looks great(refering to Energy GTX) :D

of course it's your choice, i have yet to find a rom that bricks my phone(not that i'm looking) so i can safly assume that all cooks are great at their respective roms - so no jugement(preventing argument):)

Well i got a 2gb with myne, however, a bud of myne got a 8gb, and i too have heard talk of a 16gb - so i cant say, what i can say with definity, is that you get a 2gb microsd sandisk with your HD2 when getting it through Vodacom SA.
[HD2 General] d0ug:
I have to agree as well, i think the HD2 screen is about as large as youd want in a "phone" I think any larger and you are getting into the mini tablet/portable media player arena.
[HD2 General] Balam_Ak_Ab:
The HTC Tmobile HD2 came with 16gb microsd sandisk.
[HD2 General] audscott:
One other tiny difference between the Euro &TMOUS versions is the 3.5 jack placement. The Euro is partially outside the housing, whereas TMOUS.is centered A bubble wraps around the jack input. I had wondered once or twice if a twist in the wrong direction with an unusually long connector might break the housing. Not a problem in any real context, simply an observation.

Others have commented on the cost or availability of replacement parts for the TMOUS: I bought my Euro version in Dec, and paid, well you guys know. I bought a used TMOUSA for $250 earlier this week (May '10) (craigslist, wouldn't ya know) and sold my Euro the same day, the same way, for $300. If worse came to worse, I'd buy another TMOUS off craigslist if mine broke. $250 may or may not be reasonable in the face of the cost of repair of either model, but it beats buying either version new.
[Touch HD General] adrian1lj23:
I don't know what happend to my phone just all of a sudden i got a voicemail when i tried checking it it wont call the voicemail then i tried resetting my phone then i tried sending texts but it keeps dailing i tried calling it wont call it just says calling... but its not ringing at first i tought it must be my carrier but then i tried swtiching phones and my sim is working so its the phone definitely just not sure why it suddenly happend is this a common HTC problem? does anyone have the same experience with HTC blackstone if you do? did you get it fixed? and how pls help thank you
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] chrisportela:
How do you deal with not having to use an SD card? I use it all the time with switching phones between my Viva(Opal) and Touch(Elf) both of which are... "nonoperational" anymore so I am deciding whether this phone would be the best phone for me since money is kinda an issue. Any additional comments about the phone would be welcomed but right now this is my only dilemma regarding buying the phone now
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] krisztian b:
Not a big deal... In pen drive mode you can move data quickly. 4 gig is enough for navi stuffs, a couple of movies, mp3 albums and pics. For the first time I found the built in mem a stupid thing, but after 1.5 yrs of use, it is proven to be enough and never had issues with it. Very nice pda (still the most handsome), solid built with razor sharp display.

Still love my diamond. :) just like my trinity... :D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] siddharthsai:
@ OP

PRO'S :

- Internal memory is 4 Gig , so like the above member said , its quite enough for all your applications.

- Its doesn't get wiped out while changing ROM

- Doesn't get stolen :D

- Transfers are fast , not extremely fast but , quite enough

Con's :

- No more space... if u are a heavy user you will run outta space at some point .

- some users get a problem like after HARD SPL the internal storage wont show up.

I've been using diamond for more than 6 months and still i have some 2.1 GB free space..( i dnt listen to music on my fone )

Its the best in its class..the screen is just brilliant go for it