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[EVO 4G General] Auzarin:
My apologies, my theory had nothing to do with you or your like or dislike of anything. I was just wanting community opinion of this new processor. I am interested in processing capability not wither or not the games are good. But wither or not the hardware has the ability and drivers are capable. Also I am most curious if the drivers will support the various video and audio codecs to make this a true multimedia phone unlike the touch pro I currently have.
[EVO 4G General] audscott:
You seem like a really nice person and I apologize for coming off as not so much so. I don't think you can do much better than an iphone.....there I said it and I have tears in my eyes for saying so. I just don't like how Apple locks the application availability (although there are tons and good quality) and user interface.

I almost feel like an idiot for not just sucking it up and getting one.....Nah, I am an idiot! :D
[EVO 4G General] th3b055:
I remember seeing a video of the Evo running some game that looked like WipeOut on the PSP and looked pretty damn good. Not sure if it proves anything but worth looking into if you havn't seen it
[EVO 4G General] KERKEDAGAIN:
check out Polarbit.com and Asphalt 5...those seem to speak pretty well for gaming capabilities on high-end Android devices; and I'm sure better is yet to come
[EVO 4G General] |Jason8|:
Your mom has yet to come....

Sorry, couldn't resist. But yeah, when the EVO takes off, we're definitely going to see Android gaming take off as well. And I'm not talking little ****ty games. I'm talking about actual online multiplayer games. Why? WiMAX is low latency. Should be fun. :)
[EVO 4G General] engagedtosmile:
I remember reading somewhere that Need for Speed: Shift will be launching around the same time as the Evo. They were going to show its performance during some event. I believe the launch event they were going to show off a few games that showcase the Evo's performance.

edit:

Here it is

http://www.i4u.com/article33962.html
[EVO 4G General] Barkleyfan:
The way it was explained to me, there is not actually a separate physical GPU in my Droid. It's more a section of the CPU dedicated to graphics. Either way, once OC'd, it's pretty sweet, but not any faster or more reliable than a Incredible, which runs the Snapdragon. Hands on, the Incredible and Droid (Clocked @ 1.2ghz) run pretty similar. I imagine the EVO and HD2 will as well. I haven't played with a HD2, as I prefer Android to WM.
[EVO 4G General] bjkoh:
HD2 on Android seems to have games screaming at good frame rates.. I believe it's the OS and the implementation of the graphic APIs that makes the difference..
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
This thread is old but we now know that the GPU in this chip leaves a lot to desire.
[EVO 4G General] BrianDigital:
hmmmmmmm intergrated graphics on the same die as the processor yes that does imply to your question please actually read
[EVO 4G General] Philosuffer:
I see what you did there
[EVO 4G General] treckin:
Quite a good pun :-P

Now that we have 3.29, games shouldn't be capping out at 30fps.
[EVO 4G General] superlinkx:
Correct. I just tested some games that were a little laggy and they work great. Nova plays pretty well, I think now its just really getting used to the controls, and some air hockey games that lagged behind my finger are much smoother and have less lag now. Basically, with the new update, the Evo is at the top except when compared with the hummingbird and newer snapdragons, but still pretty damn impressive for a phone.
[EVO 4G General] TorxT3D:
DOES ANYBODY KNOW HOW OVERCLOCK SNAPJARGON GRAPHICS CARD? i NEED MORE MEGAHURTZ AND WIFIS.
[EVO 4G General] Last-Chance:
asphault 5 is gay. **** cheats -.-

I get my turbo up and boost trying to go past the cars, and the cars just go faster then me without turbo. wtf is that ****.
[EVO 4G General] om4:
evo uses the adreno gpu doesnt it, specs for evo state 1.1 for the opengl but im sure the adreno supports es2.0 which means it can produce a lot of the same effects as the iphone but i think the iphone pushes way more polygons, it has a PowerVR gpu after all, its been called a dreamcas on a chip, anyways, after the update my phone is lagging horribly, i feel i need to hard reset the phone but i just did that a week ago, installed a bad app and needed to restore, 2 of the benchmark apps i used actually gave me worse results, someone posted results from a benchmark and came out on top of the nexus one by a fair margin so im hoping that after a reset it will run more smoothly
[EVO 4G General] dankey:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdZEuW9tjHY&feature=fvw
[EVO 4G General] om4:
i like that commercial but sadly they the specs in terms of raw power when rendering is quite different, psp can handle something like 80k tris at 60fps powervr sgx 540 pushes something like 90m thats the gpu in the galaxy line the 535 is used in 3gs/iphone 4, ipod, and ipad and while i cant remember what the 535 pushes it far exceeds what psp can push...but theres always psp2 when ever it gets released
[EVO 4G General] ivanxov3rx:
just to clean up the original topic of this thread, the HTC Evo 4G has a 1 Ghz Snapdragon QSD 8655 CPU with integrated Adreno 200 GPU. All "first" generation Snapdragons have this processor and GPU combo, i.e. Nexus 1, Droid Incredible, HTC Desire. To put it in perspective, the original Droid has a TI OMAP 3430 600 Mhz with a PowerVR SGX 530 GPU which is more powerful than the Evo. The iPhones have a PowerVR SGX 535 GPU, and the Galaxy S line has a very potent PowerVR SGX 540. as of this moment, HTC's Shining Glory in terms of performance is the HTC Desire HD/myTouch 4G with a "second" generation Snapdragon MSM chip with Adreno 205 GPU which nearly matches the Galaxy S line in terms of performance. What Qualcomm is currently working on and has ready for later in the year or next is the Adreno 220 GPU, which is theoretically as powerful as the PlayStation 2. and for the possibly distant future is the Adreno 300 series, with the graphical power of the current home consoles, PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360. Hope this helps somewhat.
[EVO 4G General] BlueGoldAce:
Yep, exactly right. I did a lot of research on this before I purchased the Evo. But then I realized something. Beyond angry birds, I don't play many games, and I rarely play angry birds as well. I need my phone to be smooth, fast, and do anything I need it to do within reasonable expectation. The Evo does all that an more. There is a reason why phonedog.com just released an article stating that the Evo is still the best phone out there. HTC put a lot of work into utilizing the software and hardware so that they run perfectly. Of course, the developers here succeed in making it so much better.

Even games are not the Evo "top thing", it is still a damn good phone. Plus, if your into rooting and flashing, this is your phone. Go look at the Droid X, Samsung Epic, etc. You will notice that the number of Roms pales in comparison to what the Evo community has produced.
[EVO 4G General] OneStepAhead:
or a console.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Games aren't really my thing either. What bothers me is live wallpapers and a few apps that do use 3d (3d gallery, new 3d music, 3d view in maps), they run okay but not buttery smooth perfect. It reminds me of a HP tablet PC I bought a few years ago, dropped $1600 maxing it out. I already new that it's integrated GPU wasn't going to be great but I was just surprised (in a bad way) at how choppy it ran Windows Aero in Vista and 7. At the very least I expected core Windows animations to be smooth. In the same sense I just want core Android things like live wall papers to smooth (smooth app drawer scrolling on top of a live wallpaper, or even smooth intensive animations in wallpapers like 2.3 microbes), something that other phones like the SGS do.
[EVO 4G General] Blitzpwnage:
hey I have that EVGA card! I'm going to try and put it into my phone. Wish me luck!
[Droid Incredible General] Honestly77:
Well we need root for mostly everything people are requesting. I will list a few.

-Flash Light using camera led(s)

-Different Lockscreen

-720p Video recording

-Editing buttons to wake the phone up instead of just unlock button

-Changing the light/proximity senor sensitivity

-Apps2SD

-Different launcher/access to plain vanilla(removing sense)

I see threads everyday. Asking for something someone can do on a rooted phone. Until you see a HOW TO - Rooting the incredible...well nothing is going to be developed specifically to enhance the incredible.

I thought considering this is Verizons first superphone it may become popular and we will end up with a ton of tweens and 40 somethings that don't know much asking the same questions google or search could of answered.

I am sure I missed a ton but thats just off the top of my head.

I know this just adds one more to the clutter but maybe it will help.

Also the above things are not guaranteed to happen when root does BUT most of it can be done. With the help from custom .apks and scripts etc.
[Droid Incredible General] syntrix:
You mean, "What do YOU need root for?"

Rooting is no guarantee for all of the functionality you listed.

Where is this FAQ link?
[Droid Incredible General] burkart:
i'd like to be able to unixy things like create hard links. do i need root for this...? when i tried to use a console app it said NO ROOT basically.

edit: nevermind i was being dumb you can do hard links sans root. just doesn't work from internal storage to sdcard :(. it says "link failed Cross-device link" :( :( :(
[Droid Incredible General] sic4672:
also need root for barnacle and overclocking
[Droid Incredible General] Lino.:
If these are the reasons for rooting this phone I would not wasted my time and take a chance at bricking my phone for this.

I had a rooted G1 and loved it, but there was better reasons to root the G1 and this phone does everything my rooted G1 did.
[Droid Incredible General] MoreGone:
I look forward to wireless tethering, had it on my g1 and my Droid. Sure there are alternatives like pdanet but always seems that I dont have a usb cord when I need it
[Droid Incredible General] xmkgenzo:
yep, wireless tethering is the thing I mostly look for.
[Droid Incredible General] compnird:
I want wifi access point internet sharing without having to pay for tethering. Already can do USB connection with information found here at XDA but enabling bluetooth and/or wifi would be awesome!
[Droid Incredible General] syrguy1969:
If those are your only reasons to root, I can save you a couple:

To get a different lockscreen, try out this app:

http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.jackdoit.lockbot

The paid version gives a lot more customization options, but the free version is really good as well.

You also don't need rooting for a flashlight, just an app to be written. So far the only flashlight app for the Incredible (I am waiting for one as well) is $1 and only makes the screen turn white:

http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.flashlight.htcincredibleflashlight

I am sure an LED flashlight app will be out soon (actually if the market is any indication a few will be out and some probably for free).
[Droid Incredible General] 286:
A Bluetooth stack that supports Serial Port Profile (SPP) so that I can connect my 5hz Bluetooth GPS!
[Droid Incredible General] w1retap:
- Custom ROMs

- Custom root-only apps

- More custom icons/sounds/themes

- Better tether options

- Access to utilize hardware features better

..just to name a few
[Droid Incredible General] scarter11:
Someone mentioned overclocking, but underclocking is also a desire to extend battery life.
[Droid Incredible General] IncredibleDoes:
To those wondering what i am trying to do: I am trying to get root on my incredible and i like to think that i am getting somewhere :) well I have created an update.zip that contains the latest incredible system and root. This will flash an older radio version so if accomplished i suggest no one tries untill we get the official images.

Okay I have gotten passed the signature check and model ID check and it starts writing the zip but then fails on main version now (step closer to flashing my rootedupdate.zip) any ideas on Main version?
[Droid Incredible General] IncredibleDoes:
Incredible Root Based on Desire Root Step 2

Pushing required files to device...

* daemon not running. starting it now on port 5037 *

* daemon started successfully *

push: files/etc/mtab -> /etc/mtab

failed to copy 'files/etc/mtab' to '/etc/mtab': Read-only file system

busybox: permission denied

Pushing update file to device sdcard - this may take a few minutes...

Usage: mount [-r] [-w] [-o options] [-t type] device directory

...
[Droid Incredible General] binny1007:
Sorry but,

FAIL

FAIL

FAIL

FAIL

FAIL

AND

FAIL

everyone needs to stop trying to use Pauls work. You get the main version fail cuz the Rom you are trying to flash is older than the one you have on your device. Second, Pauls method rely's on a Rom that was built with su in it, built BY HTC AND SIGNED FROM HTC. So unless you can get one of those roms Pauls method is not going to work.
[Droid Incredible General] IncredibleDoes:
sorry, close thread, i give up.
[Droid Incredible General] aol8mydog:
FAIL? Are we still using that word?

It just amazes me how condescending people get on phone related forums. Anyone trying to root the Incredible should be thanked, no matter how much of a dead-end path they end up taking. They're putting effort and ideas into it, so leave it at that.
[Droid Incredible General] jonnybueno:
It's cause this subforum is getting redundant and people aren't reading through the threads.
[Droid Incredible General] seanmcd72:
I agree. Thanks OP for trying!
[Droid Incredible General] :
Well said. I applaud his resolve.
[Droid Incredible General] kcasner:
Binny wasn't being condescending, you're just as clueless as this method is a fail.

It's been said several times, politely why and how paul's method works and why this method will not.

The people that take the time to read, and search... are simply tired of those who don't bother to do that, or pay attention. Instead flood the forum's with new repetitive crap that is proven to lead no where.

This is another one of those threads.
[Droid Incredible General] roberj13:
I think when you say,

FAIL

FAIL

FAIL

FAIL

FAIL

FAIL

there is no doubt that you are trying to be a di©k. Search or not, there are two pages in the Droid Incredible Android Development section, and I am glad to see someone is actually posting what they are trying. Maybe by someone actually posting the results (successful or not) it would keep others from going down the same path and actually helping progress for others.

I'm tired of people posting on this forum telling people they are so wrong and stupid for even trying and ending discussion on threads. Here are examples of some comments that were condescending and ended the thread that the posting was made in. Oh first a definition..

con·de·scend·ing   [kon-duh-sen-ding] Show IPA

–adjective

showing or implying a usually patronizing descent from dignity or superiority

"just stop... this has nothing to do with rooting..." - g00s3y

"i wanted to wait to see how long this thread would have gone on for... i was getting a few laughs out of it already. Especially the pull out the battery when it says SPL Unlocked lol..." - g00s3y

2 Threads started by g00s3y EVER, neither one in Development, but yet he hangs out in development to tell everyone how stupid they are.

"This thread's pretty hilarious at this point. Really guys, this isn't how phones are rooted. HTC isn't stupid. The fact that you know how to boot into recovery doesn't make you a dev by any means." - heavensblade23

Originally Posted by Honestly77

My my I think it worked. Congrats!!

"Doubtful, just because two things seem related doesn't mean that they are" - heavensblade23

Hmm, 2 thread-enders by someone who has never started a thread anywhere here before..

I've gotten a lot of great information from this forum on other phones, and I mean no disrespect to the devs here, but I for one will be searching for information on the Incredible elsewhere. Only two pages of information in the Droid Incredible Development section and I am already tired of the BS. This isn't the same Android community that surrounded the Droid when I got it. Anyhow, good luck!
[Droid Incredible General] aol8mydog:
What's NOT condescending about repeating the (overused) term "FAIL" six times?

Ironically, those who are crying foul over cluttering the forums are guilty themselves for cluttering the forum with the useless, flaming remarks. So what if Paul's method won't work on the Incredible? Whoopdidoo... can't blame people for trying. All I can assume is that those who flame the OP for trying are merely angry because the subject line included "1 step closer to root" and, upon viewing the thread, they are disappointed and feel the need to make their superior knowledge known. To me, that's simply narcissism. I really don't care how much someone knows compared to someone else. I'm here for information and if I read something that is already known, it doesn't bother me any. If the thread isn't needed, it will soon fall into the abyss of old threads of several days, weeks, and months ago. Voila, problem solved - and any potential clutterphobia can be at ease.
[Droid Incredible General] kcasner:
You go boy; bring the near beer to the partay!
[Droid Incredible General] qwho:
I agree, I can't believe how some people posting...

I for one, am glad that g00s3y dropped and broke his incredible. He deserved it.
[Droid Incredible General] dephtones:
I rooted my incredible already. I stuck it in a 12" pot, watered it and gave it some fertilizer and have watched it grow since I bought it 2 weeks ago. Unfortunately, it doesn't turn on any more, but it's rooted none the less.
[Droid Incredible General] g00s3y:
First, I didn't create either of those threads. What does the fact that they aren't in development have anything to do with anything.

Second, I don't see where in either of those quotes of mine, where I call people stupid, do you see it?

Finally, I don't go around parading to know anything more than what I do. But since you do have the time to critique everyone else, maybe you can critique a way to root our phone since you seem to know all.

Please people take some midol, it seems a lot of you need it. Too many people act like internet gangsters lol.
[Droid Incredible General] g00s3y:
You are funny, laughing at someone else's misfortune. Just remember, its karma, and its a *****. Remember that when you fail at rooting your phone and brick it.
[Droid Incredible General] invisiblek:
ok now, lets all grow up and act our age. give they guy credit for trying and move on
[Droid Incredible General] leebsammy:
Not to be an asshole or anything. But tons of people on the internet act like pricks. They love to edick measure. If you cant take it, get the **** off the interweb. I thank the op for trying, even if he was stupid and tried something that's been tried.. Whatever, I couldnt load a custom rom on a g1 the other day when theres 50 tutorials here on how to do that. So nice try op but you still FAIL like goos3ys incredible.
[Droid Incredible General] IncredibleDoes:
Mods please close thread, like everyone says another useless thread!

Well I give up.... bricked a few devices, learned a few things... Its all good.

(sits here and waits for root)

*ID*
[Droid Incredible General] Gimpeh:
I honestly don't think you should give up. You've come this far. Idle in the incredibleroot IRC room to exchange ideas.
[Droid Incredible General] binny1007:
Look guys I was frustrated yesterday because I have went over this a hundred times, I'm not saying anyone should give up, just ditch pauls root method, for now. Some of what he did we can use. But for right now its a dead fish and people keep beating it.
[Droid Incredible General] jonnybueno:
Someone should make a Droid root thread that covers what's been tried and what the result came about using that method. That way if some awesome dev rolls up, all the info is in one place. A mod could then sticky said thread and then delete all the garbage threads....

If I have time later, ill try to do this, but I'm swamped with work and life right now.
[Droid Incredible General] 1wayjonny:
Binny is 100% correct I have no idea why people keep trying this method. If you edit the zip file at all the original signature breaks.

And the signature you can do on your PC is not what is needed, HTC has to sign the zip with a specific key.

Please stop trying to do this everyone.

That being said the energy is great but only post useful information the users on XDA are well past the trial and errors going on.

It like trying to open a bank vault with an umbrella, this not going to work.
[Droid Incredible General] 1wayjonny:
Thanks for trying but you need to learn much more about Android before posting in the development thread.The threads you are creating is like your personal journal of trial and errors of thing that have been known for two years.

These thread are titled that we are closer to root so you would expect ANYONE to always click it and read it. You are getting newbies all excited each time and its the same progress as the last thread

But the threads get a little redundant when each one is the same method as your last thread just with different command output text

I do love your energy but please read up for a 3-4 months before attempting anything else as it might help you understand why what our trying to not working and will never not work.

A = Effort

F = Methods and / Knowledge

Before anyone else defends the threads please understand we are trying to help you more then hurt your feelings.
[Droid Incredible General] opcode1300:
Done.

charCount++
[Droid Incredible General] IncredibleDoes:
To all saying that Paul's method won't work, well, i think otherwise. I think the only way to root is using Paul's method and if you say it will never work "we will have to wait and see"

anyways I am not giving up I will still continue to try (try) and root my device.

*ID
[Droid Incredible General] :
Never give up!
[Droid Incredible General] kcasner:
oh good god. You just don't get it. Paul's method works great. That's what we have told you time and time again. All you need is a signed rom from htc.

Oh forget it, waste of breathe obviously.
[Droid Incredible General] 1wayjonny:
OK fine you win, but please do not make any more threads about the same method that is not going to work.

Pauls method does work but HTC signed the file!

You just dont stop to understand what people are telling you is true. You only read 50% of pauls work / post.

I have a fear you will do this even after the Droid is rooted!
[Droid Incredible General] :
To the two above: You dont know for sure that what hes doing wont work, why does it bother you so very much that he is trying? Maybe hell stumble upon another way to sign it? WHo knows? "Let the boy have a try" To quote the sword in the stone.
[Droid Incredible General] Gimpeh:
Douchebags like that, that run good people off of the XDA forums.
[Droid Incredible General] 1wayjonny:
No thats the problem we DO know that what he is trying will NOT work...

No it's that but people do not listen to reason and intel given by current XDA users. No way in trying to be cocky but how ignorant do you have to be to ignore to the specific intel you are given in your own threads. This causes current members to not care and make a joke out of it. Then instead of updating your original post with more useless information found a whole NEW thread is created. And the cycle starts over.

Not once out of multiple threads created have I seen hit reply or quote the information given of what he is doing wrong in his methods. So nothing was learned in his past weeks with dealing with current XDA members. Every thread in this section has the information that HTC must sign the file, and that how Paul got it to work.

Let's be real for a second here most people complaining here have just joined the forums in the past 2 weeks and are new android users, when the more advanced members the info goes out the window

Please do not feed the animals...