yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile] Farmer Ted:
My general rule of thumb is this: if you don't know what it is, leave it in. Some things are obvious, like mp3 trimmer, manila or labyrinth. Leave them in or out, it's your choice. A lot of the non-obvious packages are just dll's that several different HTC apps may need to function. You can use a dependency scanner to see what apps need what, but that can be complicated. It's always a good idea to look in the package and see what's there, and look in the rgu's for clues.
[Windows Mobile] ai6908:
http://www.mobileunderground.info/showthread.php?t=3841

Check the above thread.
[Windows Mobile] indagroove:
I'll give a simple and straightforward answer to the very broad question..

Q:

A:

Read, search, read some more, build rom, more searching, read, read, build rom, read again, then search and read. Repeat, and rinse.

Hope that helps. ;)
[Windows Mobile] [★]:
Thanks that a good idea, I will go through and do that tonight :)

Great thread :D thanks man, very useful :)

Thanks...
[Windows Mobile] Laurentius26:
+1, yeah all packages in rom have a function.

The only way to find out is indeed logical thinking and your suggestion. :D
[Windows Mobile] ai6908:
+1...Comes usually through experience....:D
[Windows Mobile] chrisjaffe:
Great link, Thanks. I have often thought that this would be a great resource thread here.

I have also had a problem with this and many times the only answer is trial and error. Though the more I cook the better I am getting at figuring this stuff out by dissecting the package a little.

I know that "Search and you will find it" is a common (and overused IMHO) answer abound here but I have found that searching for package names rarely leads me in the right direction.

cj
[Windows Mobile] indagroove:
IMO, searching is important, but equally important is reading about things when you aren't necessarily searching for specific answers. Doing this, you will often find useful information by chance which you aren't really even actively searching for. I think the real lesson is to constantly keep up with as much of the latest developments as possible, even if you may find them unnecessary in your particular situation. This gained knowledge will only lead to a more fully holistic understanding of the cooking process, which is really the point.
[Windows Mobile] twopumpchump:
i think this is very true :) i hear people complain all the time about how they cant search and find what they are looking for, but truth is that if you do enough reading you will find your answer and learn a whole lot more in the process ;)
[Windows Mobile] da_cug:
Package repository

I had (and still have) the same problem. So I started to figure out what which package does. There are still packages that I haven't figured out yet but those I have figured out I've uploaded to a public Mercurial repository. You can find it here:

ttp://bitbucket.org/da_cug/cleanroom/overview
(just prepend "h" - I can't post URLs here yet)

If you don't want to clone the repository (or if you don't know what Mercurial is) you can click on the "Source" tab and browse the repository. The description of each package can be found in the "readme.txt" files within each package folder.

The (my) idea of this repository is that there is a central place for all packages/devices/languages to which users can contribute to (rather than each cook doing this on his/her own).

Note that the repository is not yet complete. I only upload packages for which I know (or think I know) what they're doing. Any help with this is appreciated. Just write me a message.
[Windows Mobile] + Que PPC:
Looks interesting da_cug, xplain how we can helps you with this thing... its a magnific Info source.
[Windows Mobile] chrisjaffe:
Good Point.
[Droid Incredible General] compnird:
Please forgive me if this is a duplicate thread, I searched and only found folks complaining of other things with battery, not the length of life. Feel free to move this if it belongs in another forum.

I was one of the early recipients so I've been using the Incredible for a week already. Here are my findings on battery life and opening to further suggestions to stretch this out some more.

I am using the standard battery that came with the phone. I have a wall charger at my desk at work and a car charger in my car, all in addition to the charger on my night-stand. Fortunately these carried over from my Omnia2 since they are Micro USB. However, I have to use these constantly.

I have been using a smartphone for quite a few years and this one is by far the best yet... however, it also bleeds the battery dry like any other smartphone. I am also a power user, Exchange connection for work calendar and mail, Gmail, internet use and Facebook app. I also use the camera a lot, which yields impressive photos for a phone.

Average day for me; if I unplug the charger at about 7:00am as I leave for work and do not plug it into anything for power, the battery bar turns orange at about 2:30-3:00PM. I use Advanced Task Manager to kill things I don't use and have removed apps I had installed but use minimally which start up on their own (Skype, Photoshop Mobile... etc.). I also keep an eye on the running services to ensure the minimum is running at any given time.

Before I used Advanced Task Manager I was getting to about noon before the battery bar turned orange.

With occasional use of wall and car charger I can get through a full day before I get to red and the "plug into power" warning message. This past weekend I bled it to the point that it turned off on it's own, which was about 10:00PM

I typically have 2+ bars of 3G in my area, at home I have a signal extender so I have full strength signal, if that is off I have 1 bar of 1x.

Anyone have additional tips or tricks on how to milk even more battery life out of my Incredible phone? I expected lackluster battery performance but would love to get through a day without having to keep a charger on me.
[Droid Incredible General] carlbettag:
NOEAOMD

Try this - seems to be best trick with little or no effect on usability:

Settings > Wireless & Networks > Mobile Networks (2nd one down)-

Uncheck 'Enable always-on mobile data'. Does not affect my push Exchange, and dramatically helps battery life.

Credit is due to one of the users at androidforums.com.
[Droid Incredible General] raptir:
That battery life sounds about right. Keep in mind that having all of that stuff syncing in the background is going to kill your battery life. Also, ATK could be hurting your battery life in general. You clearly have something that it's helping with, but if you're just killing every background process your phone will use more power reinitializing those programs than it would have just keeping them in RAM. In general, if something's not using any CPU time, it's better to leave it running.
[Droid Incredible General] theoneownz:
My old phone was the touch pro 2. the battery equipped with it has a 1500 mah. The battery is slightly thicker but cover easily closes still and i can now enjoy my phone almost lasting the entire day :op

also my friend works a tmobile and supposedly the HD2 also uses the same battery but with a higher rating. They throw them out after awhile and he said he will get me a few of them for free cant wait :o)
[Droid Incredible General] fygar66:
I had a similar issue...

I was having a similar issue where my Incredible wouldn't make it through the day without charging, and I found that Google Maps was eating the lion's share of my battery. I tried using Advanced Task Killer to stop it, but it didn't show up in the list of tasks, but if I checked my battery usage, it was always the task using the most energy (not just by a little...it would typically be responsible for 70-95%). I had turned the Locator feature on within Maps just to see how it worked, but even with it disabled the task would still be running. The only way I was able to rid myself of the process was to reboot Android. My battery life has improved drastically since then.

I'm not saying this will solve your issue, but it's something to look at.
[Droid Incredible General] roninld:
Check this thread on androidforums:

http://androidforums.com/support-troubleshooting-incredible/72539-i-found-fixed-htc-incredible-battery-bug.html

I think the problem is battery Uptime vs Awake time. If they are the same then the battery drains like crazy.

I ended up turning phone off completely, charging, then killing the Calendar process (but I have read killing any process will do) after boot with Astro File Manager.

I am currently at 19 hours 42 minutes Uptime, with 7 hours 12 minutes Awake time (Phone was awake all night apparently and I ended up killing my last processes: Mint, Firewallet, Fianancisto as well as Calendar which showed up in the list again).

And I have GPS, location, syncing on and set to 4 hours for most everything (except for Gmail Contacts and Calendar which I turned off).

Anyway, hope this helps someone.

EDIT: Oh, and I have 60% battery (6 green bars). I'm not using any battery apps or any task manager apps apart from Astro File Manager to kill processes.
[Droid Incredible General] compnird:
So far this has done the most good. You are right it doesn't really delay my Exchange much. I notice a few seconds more of a delay when I am at my desk but I will never have something so critical that a few seconds will matter. :)
[Droid Incredible General] damnhao:
would this effect google voice?
[Droid Incredible General] Namolas:
I am also curious to know what all is effected by disabling that setting...
[Droid Incredible General] th3drow:
i disabled it and my google voice works fine, my weather widgets work fine, my dictionary.com widget works fine all updating themselves.... i'm not sure what it changed
[Droid Incredible General] compnird:
My Facebook app only refreshes when I open it or manually, Skype IM shows me offline most of the time. Otherwise, just longer battery life.
[Droid Incredible General] m1k3-:
For what it's worth, I disabled all of the htc widgets and sense (installed helix launcher 2) and I can get through pretty much an entire day on a single charge. Took phone off the charger around 7am and it's just now red at about 10pm.
[Droid Incredible General] th3drow:
I thought you couldnt disable sense on this phone.
[Droid Incredible General] Calibob2001:
Thanks!

Might I say- THIS IS BRILLIANT! Yes, the TP2 bat fits just fine and gives a bit more time on the life of the Incredible... good find!
[Droid Incredible General] jbh00jh:
My Imagio 1500 mAh and 1750 mAh batts also work fine in the Incredible .
[Droid Incredible General] theoneownz:
Np man I knew it would help someone :0p I knew i wasnt the only one to swap over lol
[Droid Incredible General] Ed Zachary:
We got two Incredibles on Wednesday. The Boss Lady's went through the "select language, etc" drill described in the user's guide on first startup after charging. Mine went straight to the Home screen without any setup options. So I did a hard reset and was walked through the setup.

We left them both on chargers during the night.

Yesterday, after two hours off the charger and doing NOTHING, mine had used up more than a third of the battery.

Boss Lady's was still pegged.

After four hours, still doing bupkiss, mine started begging for the charger. I put it on a car charger. Also fired up Advanced Task Manager (the only app I installed on it), and killed off every app in its list. Some of them, like HTC Checkin and People, just would not die or would restart immediately.

Since we were travelling, Boss Lady spent the trip setting up contacts, texting, checking the weather, and hitting the interwebs.

After a six-hour drive, Boss Lady using hers and mine on the charger, her battery was still nearly topped off. Mine would start begging for the charger five minutes after being disconnected.

Last night about eleven PM, Boss Lady's bettery was still at about 75%. Mine still begging for the charger. Put mine on the charger overnight. (Hers charged for about 30 min this morning). Two hours after taking mine off the charger, and again doing nothing, battery was half gone.

Oh, and during all this, the battery was VERY warm while charging and would immediately warm up considerably when the screen was on.

I checked the battery timers on both phones. Boss Lady's up timer was somthing like 12 hours, awake timer showed less than 7 min.

My timers both showed the same time and were updating in tandem.

I called support, described the Incredible Shrinking Battery. A new Incredible is on its way to my house.

Boss Lady's is still "bone stock" (no special settings) and her battery is chuggin right along...
[Droid Incredible General] NeutronBomb:
Im running GDE because helix2 kept force closing on me but same result. My battery now only runs down if I'm actively using the phone. With sense running it was burning through the battery. Huge improvement.

I was also able to replicate every sense widget but one and that being the contacts widget.

The way to do it is just set helix or GDE or whatever as your default and then restart the phone. As long as you don't manually launch sense after that it will stay turned off.

The reason people think you can't disable sense is that they didn't include some aspects of vanilla android. The messaging program and browser and a few other things aren't there and the artwork for others like the notification bar. You won't have access to the HTC widgets but you will still be able to use the HTC apps.

Anyway long story short. My battery life is MUCH improved with sense disabled.
[Droid Incredible General] rkaplins:
THIS SOLUTION WORKS FANTASTICALLY! I am still at 90% when I used to be 35% by this point in the day. Thank you so much.
[Droid Incredible General] mycomputerisjunk:
I don't think this is 100% accurate. When you disable this setting, you disable data services after your phone goes to sleep (turning off the display). It does not happen right away, but after I put my phone to sleep and wait a few minutes Gmail and ActiveSync don't push notifications to the phone. If the phone comes out of sleep for some reason (text message, phone call, etc).. Then the notifications works again, because it reconnects to the data network. I have also used K9's push feature, which also stops working after the phone is sleeping for a few minutes.

Also, when you turn off the always-on mobile connection setting the data symbols (3G/1X) go away in sleep. If you wake your phone, you can actually see the data symbols are gone but eventually return.
[Droid Incredible General] th3drow:
Wow so i decided to try the helix2 home and battery life is alot better. I don't like it quite as much as the htc sense but it's pretty close. my battery so far in the 2 hours I've had it set has been close to 50% better so far, though this is early on.
[Droid Incredible General] raptir:
How are people stopping sense from restarting? Anytime I check after at least ten minutes, Sense is running again.

Edit: It seems to be related to uninstalling applications.

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[Droid Incredible General] th3drow:
I havn't had any problems with it running as far as i can tell.

side note though after using helix for a bit my battery isn't much better...probly close to the same.
[Droid Incredible General] cpbills:
you install HelixLauncher2 from the market, and then go to Menu->Settings->Applications->Manage Applications

then select htc sense, once you find it, 'Clear cache', 'Clear defaults' and finally 'Force stop'

when you next press the home button, it will ask you which launcher to use, and there's a checkbox for making it default.
[Droid Incredible General] raptir:
Right, I did that, and it works for a while, but Sense keeps turning itself back on. Hell, last night I checked it before bed and Sense was not running. After my alarm went off this morning, sense was back in memory.

Edit: I've been trying to figure out what could be causing this, but it seems to be fairly random. Is there anything I can do to shut it off more completely. I don't really care about having the battery life hurt by Sense, I just kind of like Helix, but I don't want to be running Helix and Sense together. I've tried Helix, GDE, dxTop and Helix 2, and Sense always comes back after a while.

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[Droid Incredible General] raptir:
I installed a task manager that gives me a history of CPU usage, and it seems as though Sense isn't using any CPU time despite using around 15MB of RAM. That's assuming the task manager is accurate. I used the first one that comes up when you search the market for task manager. It's made by Futon Redemption. I'm assuming it won't be using any extra battery if it's not using any CPU time.
[Droid Incredible General] Ed Zachary:
So I got the replacement Incredible, activated it, and it started eating the battery as fast as the first one! It just didn't get hot like the first one.

So I tried turning off/disabling things. Still was sucking the battery down.

I finally tried what roninld suggested. I powered the phone off, then back on, and stopped the calendar. Started to get an immediate divergence in the up and awake times. Right now up time is 82:45:50 and awake time is 6:01:39 (they were identical until I stopped the calendar). And the battery was lasting a good long while.

Calendar re-started itself (or the OS re-started it). I re-enabled things I had disabled. Still outstanding battery life. I took it off the charger at 5:15AM on Wednesday, forgot to put it back on the charger Wednesday night. When I put it back on the charger Thursday night, it had been off the charger for about 40 hours and still had about 30% left.
[Droid Incredible General] rfarrah:
using Task Manager 1.11.9, I keep minimal stuff running. Going to try disabling the always-on mobile selection - but I think that was what made my weather app update automatically. Guess we'll see tomorrow....
[Droid Incredible General] Tapple:
This worked for me...

I was having battery problems also. I know a lot of things are causing the issues, but the largest being app's using the data network without asking. To test this I charged up the phone, killed all tasks, and disabled all sync apps. 5 hours off the charge wihtout any use and it dropped to 65%. So I installed Juice Defender (free on market) which turns off the data network while the screen is off, but turns it on every half hour to let things sync. Also has a few other features to prevent it from turning off data when you need it, look it up.

So I tested again, this time with Juice Defender on, sync apps on at 2 hour sync, and killed everything else. 5 hours later of no use, it only dropped another 5%.
[Droid Incredible General] Mik0r:
Ive found the best thing to do to increase battery life is runn a task manager to auto-kill the unused apps and crapware. I have CityID, Footprints, Friend Stream, and the default Mail app (not gmail) on autokill. just doing that almost doubled my battery life. The crapware will restart itself after you kill it with a regular task manager so be sure to use one that has autokill. I was getting about 16 hours on the stock battery with medium phone usage. ~2 hours of internet radio usage, ~1 hour of video watching, and push gmail, and txting ~5 times an hour.

I just got the extended 1750mAh battery from Seidio. Hoping to get around 24 hours of battery life now.
[Droid Incredible General] TCommander:
I've had the exact same experience with extending battery life with task killers. This is the only forum where no one has gone completely berserk for mentioning such a solution.
[Droid Incredible General] contagous:
Just found this over at AndroidForums.

Source - http://androidforums.com/support-tr...ting-response-htc-regarding-battery-life.html

Thought i'd post it here to
[Droid Incredible General] gentleart:
I'm getting great battery life from my DI. Much better than I got from the Touch Pro.
[Android Software Development] xlanhackerx:
Hey Guys i have a little Question.

First of all, sry for my bad english.

I want to ask if it could be possible to use a external tv-tuner (USB-Device) with an Android Device ? I mean if the Device (Mobile Phone) with Android having supported USB Host Mode could it work with a external TV-Tuner (like for example DVB-T etc.) ?

If the Driver for the "TV-Tuner" are possible in Linux could we compile them into the Android and could we write a little "User interface" where we could switch for example the Channels or moving the Volume ??

If it would give a "User Interface" which would be possible in Linux too than we could use them on the Phone ?

I would like to hear what others are thinking about these and if these could be possible ?

Thanks.

Greetz Oliver
[Android Software Development] slaming:
the only thing i can possibly add to this topic is i believe one of the archos devices has a dvr tuner docking station but i'm not 100% sure if its the win7 one or one of the android tablets, you will have to look.
[Nexus One General] craigacgomez:
Maybe many people already know this... but Kevin Lynch, Adobe's chief technology officer, said "Adobe expects to release Flash Player 10.1 on Google's Android operating system in May and then for it to be on general release in June. "

BBC new post where I found this... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/10093314.stm
[Nexus One General] Sindroid:
sounds goody...

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[Nexus One General] faraz1992:
That means we'd be another step ahead from others...

Lets hope next CM build includes this :D

Hey dude, seriously, there has been a big discussion over this Sent from my Nexus One using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk thing... requesting you to please turn it off through your settings...
[Nexus One General] y2whisper:
has been mentioned in threads here already. Im not sure if the bbc story was mentionned, but you might be better off looking for that thread and posting in there instead of starting a new one

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[Nexus One General] timothydonohue:
glad to hear the quick news about flash, maybe that means froyo will be showing up this month too...

and, at y2whisper, the other thread was closed, because it was made perfectly clear that most people would like it turned off. the tapatalk notification is annoying as sin
[Nexus One General] y2whisper:
Thats fine that they would, I opt to keep it on, only out of gratitude for the program and that about 10% of my posts are done via the program. should that percentage increase or simply just over time (unless there is some kind of upgrade) I will shut it off.

Mind you my motivation with it is that its xda specific and its how i found out about the application in the first place.
[Nexus One General] Mokurex:
I agree it's annoying and all, but I believe that's how a lot of people know about the program. If everybody turns it off, I bet there's gonna be a bunch of thread asking what this program is. lol
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
You can always block people who don't disable the signature.
[Nexus One General] krabman:
Admin is working with the developer to change the spam that the application places in the body of the post which is what annoys most people. They did not specify what would be done but apparently relief is on the way.
[Nexus One General] r8zer:
need to make it so you can assign a sig to it your self, or not at all.
[Nexus One General] Mi|enko:
But, if you reply with it, doesn't it just use the sig you already have specified in the forum?
[Nexus One General] krabman:
They didnt say what they were going to do. What bothers most people is that it is amended into the body of the post and as they surf the forum they end up reading it over and over and over.... It sounded like a line break such as before the signatures to move it out of the body of the post would be a front runner. We'll see.
[Nexus One General] faraz1992:
It was just a request...

and I'm sorry if it hurt your xda patriotic sentiments...

;)
[Nexus One General] timothydonohue:
/tapatalk discussion

back to the talk about flash, lol