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[Hero CDMA General] mjb5406:
Good grief... if not 2.1, what is it? Why would a minor update be 84MB and require a wipe? They even tell you to remove your SD card!
[Hero CDMA General] PikkonX:
It was a maintenance release that came out in February to fix several bugs:

http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/26322?featured=true
[Hero CDMA General] ThatGuyFromSprint:
i appreciate the kind words

Me too, i got the girlfriend a moment, and she's pretty stoked about the update after having seen the changes through a few of the Hero roms here, so she's got the page on favorites on her phone, and keeps refreshing it whenever she thinks to look...
[Hero CDMA General] mjb5406:
So, basically, the Apr. 30th date for the Moment update has been missed, so the "week of May 1" for the Hero version may be just as much of a pipedream! Oh well... just updated to DamageControl 2.08 and all is well in the world.
[Hero CDMA General] jerry43812:
I just wanna touch on the bolded statement before I go to bed.

There are a lot of 'similarities' in these roms that get updated every week, and some people base their work off others, so when the main one(s) release an update, the others will be sure to follow so their stuff doesn't seem outdated. Then, since some sweetheart who had his own rom to begin with decided to leak out the actual downloads to the 2.1 leak, I've seen at least 10 new people making roms and updating etc. Not always are they even bugs, that get the updates, some people just tweak settings or change how something works or looks or something.

Basically what I am saying is this: our devs spend a lot of time doing what they see to be the best for us end users, and to be totally honest with all of the reading I have done, our devs roms are probably going to work better then the release that comes form sprint! And to think, they're going to get the official release, and do all of their work over and over again just so the complainers have something new to do. I personally appreciate the work they do, and damagecontrol was the first ROM i've flashed, then I went to regaw, and now probably back to damage until regaw implements some of the things I am sitting here hoping he implements.

Oh, btw, Damageless, if you see this message please PM me with your paypal address. You're accepting donations toward your wedding (and I am trying to save for mine) so I know you'll appreciate the little bit I have to offer to you bud.
[Hero CDMA General] ThatGuyFromSprint:
I can't say that i disagree, what I'm most excited about is that once the official release hits, the devs here will be able to implement all thier tweaks, while still maintaining full functionality for the included apps and features that some of us use.

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[Hero CDMA General] tkirton:
Your date on that is 2/19...I'm sure if the Moment got 2.1, we would have definitely heard about it.

That probably fixes all the crap that is wrong with the Moment (and from what I hear, it's many things).
[Hero CDMA General] tkirton:
Right now, the official word from Sprint is 2nd Quarter of 2010 (which technically means all the way until June 30, 2010). So, even though ThatGuyFromSprint showed a screenshot of "Week of May 1", things can change...Sprint is certainly can miss that date and still be within deadline.
[Hero CDMA General] tkirton:
Even better...once the official release hits, we can go after HTC for the source code (bigger tweaks such as overclocking and ext4 support).
[Hero CDMA General] ThatGuyFromSprint:
That's exactly what i was implying :)
[Hero CDMA General] jerry43812:
I would rather use a Rom that is optimized to work with what we have plus the extras, compared to having a Rom that is all chopped to hello for no reason... if you'd rather have an empty Rom instead of what we get minus bloatware, why not just go get a regular cheap phone lol
[Hero CDMA General] BrianDigital:
I believe people get excited by the official release, due to eventual release of source code for the kernel. Then in which things get more interesting with fully functional AOSP roms, overclocking, etc.
[Hero CDMA General] bikcmp:
So, where's the Moment update? It's May 3rd. lol :p
[Hero CDMA General] murdocthc:
rofl...my thoughts EXACTLY. except it's only May 2nd for me. patiently waiting for the hero update...but by the looks of the delay in getting the moment update out, i'm not looking for the hero update anytime soon...
[Hero CDMA General] ThatGuyFromSprint:
My thoughts exactly at this point, however i return to work tomorrow, and hopefully there's an update on the dates, i'll post up what i find out
[Hero CDMA General] pg2k3:
I seriously hope Sprint leaves the Nexus One Firmware alone and let Google manage it. I could care less about having their Sprint Apps anymore. They were cool back in my Flip Phone days but now they don't serve any purpose to me.
[Hero CDMA General] Sawawa:
I think that it is hilarious (and cute) that you think Sprint's apps are the reason this is being held up.
[Hero CDMA General] murdocthc:
Thanks TGFS; will be looking forward to it :)
[Hero CDMA General] Jus10o:
I dont think he was blaming the sprint apps for holding it back. Just a really off topic thing added in the thread.
[Hero CDMA General] laufine:
It's 3rd May already. Nothing happened. Only one update is a lottery app.

Spirnt和HTC 说话像放屁。
[Hero CDMA General] ThatGuyFromSprint:
Got new information, but you all may not like it, Hero update is still slated for this week, HTC has finished up the update, now it's being set for distribution....

what you may not like is that sprint has to do final testing which may prolong the release to next week, note that it may, not will

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[Hero CDMA General] woldy2:
whats the word on the moment?
[Hero CDMA General] ThatGuyFromSprint:
this or next week... looks as though the solutions teams are avoiding specific dates now, which may be a good decision for them

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[Hero CDMA General] captivate:
thanks for the update bro
[Hero CDMA General] djorijun:
Here you go everyone, straight from Sprint's official Twitter account. Now be patient and enjoy what you currently have.
[Hero CDMA General] tatonka_hero:
but that was weeks ago! I can't wait for Sprint to release the update according to the schedule they set for themselves and publicly announced

/sarcasm
[Hero CDMA General] chfields:
I haven't seen any publically announced date for release. All we have are rumors....It will be here when it gets here, no point in speculating as no one has a clue, not even Sprint!
[Hero CDMA General] mbaseball3:
Here's my thinking, the 2.1 release has already been released. That's right! The 'leak' you guys speak of was the actual soft release of the Rom. Only ppl that know of the update are the ones like us who join a forum to ***** and gripe :-P lol hey I'm running fresh and I'm happy. What Rom are you running? I just root and rom'd my dads hero last night. He's happy. For you guys who haven't customized your phone, what are you waiting for? Imo you shouldn't be on a forum that specializes in customizing, *****ing about your stock phone being updated to stock 2.1.
[Hero CDMA General] mbell75:
Arent you the same guy who posted the Moment was getting the 2.1 update April 30th? Fail.
[Hero CDMA General] radxcoresteven:
Explain how that's a fail, please. It isn't the OP's fault that Sprint has to do some checking on the hero update, and that could possibly be the same case with the moment. Don't be so quick to judge. He never made any promises, he just told us what he was told.
[Hero CDMA General] mbell75:
He didnt state that it was just a RUMORED date, he stated it as fact, as it WAS going to happen. It didnt, he and Sprint fail. Sprint has a history of promising updates to current phones and never delivering though. You only have to go back to the Samsung Instinct for proof of that. I guess we really shouldnt be surprised. I doubt this upgrade ever happens anyways. I could very well see Sprint saying sorry and to buy the Evo or Moment 2 if you want 2.1...
[Hero CDMA General] dhero1:
The guy shared some inside scoop on where Sprint is with the testing of the release - thanks for that and it shows that they're close ...
[Hero CDMA General] wtphoto:
perfect example of what i posted previously
[Hero CDMA General] lineman78:
This is very true. I was an instinct owner and spent several months waiting for an update, especially to the browser. Instead they came out with the instinct s30 with opera mini as the default browser and screwed everyone that had the instinct. To me, it is somewhat of an admission that a phone sucks when you come out with a variant in less than 10 months. Yet, Sprint didn't do anything for adopters of the early version. Luckily, I am a premier member and was eligible for upgrade by the time the Hero came out.
[Hero CDMA General] wtphoto:
and honestly if they dont release then we will all be the cool people becuase we will have 2.1 and no one else will :D
[Hero CDMA General] bklynfire:
all this phony speculations, on the sprint forums there is an official sprint rep announcment that there is no release date as of yet for 2.1, stating that launch date rumors are not true

here check it out for yourself

http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/28609?start=15&tstart=0&reqsorting=dec
[Hero CDMA General] ziggy682:
That was posted almost a month ago.
[Hero CDMA General] mbell75:
Yep. If this happens with the Hero/Evo, I would hope at the very least, they would let Hero owners buy the Evo for new customer prices.
[Hero CDMA General] ThatGuyFromSprint:
Specifically why most people don't take the time to share the information they received, ungrateful brats. If you even took the time to read what was posted, and interpret it for what it was, you would know that it was passed on information, that wasn't stated as a matter of fact, rather a point of shared information to help inform a community that may or may not enjoy the information. Moreover, the main reason that i post in retort is due to your obvious flame attempt that was met with resistance before i even had to reply.

The information i provided was not from the sprint website, it's from an internal memo, that since became obsolete:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6351589&postcount=120

I love people who try to attack someone without checking the source or facts... makes me second guess sharing future information, thanks for the supporters for helping me consider otherwise... at any rate... last post for the night, so you haters can get your dicks hard on your pension for misconstruing plausible information.

Good night, sirs.

P.S.: Update should be out within the week, final testing is going considerably better than previous builds: according to the final memo i saw before leaving work today.
[Hero CDMA General] murdocthc:
first of all, ROFL @

Secondly:

Awesome, thanks for the udpate!
[Hero CDMA General] nowens0520:
Thank you for the updates - I have been following your posts for the last two weeks. I really appreciate it as this is basically the only place for ANY (hopefully) reliable information.

Do you know if the Moment and Hero updates will be released at the same time? I heard that there was a setback with the Moment and the Hero would actually be releasing first.

Thanks!
[Hero CDMA General] mbell75:
Why bother sharing info here unless you are 100% sure its accurate? At this point, you are of no more use than all the tech sites like Engadget speculating on what they have heard from their "reliable sources" that are consistently wrong. As I stated earlier, Sprint has pulled this BS before with at least 4 other phones, I will not believe we are getting this upgrade until I see it. Sprint officially has 11 days left before their "Early Q2" timeframe passes. Wonder what their excuse will be...
[Hero CDMA General] mbaseball3:
Sweet! Good stuff. Glad you've stuck it out with us this long. The tards in this forum are just the common gimme gimme gimme ppl who only care bout them and What should be given to them when they want it. Basically a large circle jerk of numb nuts. Either they can chill and wait it out, or they can root and Rom, or they can switch to at&t and buy the iPhone lol
[Hero CDMA General] tstack77:
-20 internets for posting a second time instead of editing your original post that you were in the wrong thread.

-1000 internets for actually being in the correct thread you thought you were incorrect about, posting a second time instead of editing your original post that you were in the wrong thread.
[Hero CDMA General] 1Crazee_J:
"Rotfflmfao! Big laughs all around!!!! " :eek:

"I'm still having a hard time deciding whether or not to upgrade ( or downgrade, whatever the case may be. Lol! ) I'm loving this freshrom 2.1 by flipzmode."

:cool:

"That is good info to know nevertheless!"
[Hero CDMA General] sunnyboymark:
And when we all finally have our hands on the official 2.1 Upgrade, We'll all be complaining about when 2.2 Comes out and why we don't have *IT*, Yet. You think this'll end after we all have our 2.1 Updates?? Guess Again......lol
[Hero CDMA General] mbell75:
Well this whole debacle has made me a new fan of the Nexus One. I dont care how great the Evo is going to be, not going thru all this BS again with Sprint and their incompetence. Going to get the N1 so I can have the updates as soon as Google finishes them.
[Hero CDMA General] Sawawa:
Once again, Sprint is not a phone manufacturer. What the hell, guys? HTC's failure to update the Hero has nothing to do with Sprint. HTC has not released an update for ANY Heroes (GSM or otherwise) on any other networks.
[Hero CDMA General] mbell75:
Sorry but you are blaming HTC for the 2.1 delay? Its not just the Hero, its also the Moment. How does HTC have anything to do with the SAMSUNG Moment?! If it were HTC holding it up, it would have ZERO effect on a Samsung phone and you would have seen that phone update already. You are wrong, it is SPRINT that is holding this up.
[Hero CDMA General] smw6180:
I fail to see why it matters. There are many very good 2.1 ROMs floating around. The bugs are minimal and in most cases easily fixed. The only good thing about having a release is that the source code should be released within a few months (at worst) for the kernel, which means the 2.1 ROMs floating around will get even better. I've been with Sprint for 12 years. I've always used the developer ROMs, first with WinMo, now with Android. They've always been better than the official releases, and always been out on average 6 months prior to the official release. Once Sprint DOES come out with a 2.1 ROM the thing's probably going to be buggy (as most new OS releases are) and while people are dealing with those bugs, I'll have had a ROM with the bugs worked out for months. Why there's all the freaking out about getting an official ROM is beyond me.
[Hero CDMA General] PlagaDeRock:
Yeah, but we'll have a more solid kernel. :)
[Hero CDMA General] chugger93:
Guyfromsprint;

I've been reading that sprint is upgrading their servers (40+) with this update and since this will take awhile, the update might be delayed until Mid June. Any truth to that do you think?

Thanks again in advance for everything you post!! ;)
[Hero CDMA General] wtphoto:
I completely agree the only reason I want the release is so theat we can then pester HTC to release the source code so that all the cool OC and BFS and everything else can be incorporated. even though I think we will see the same situation we saw with 1.5 source where we are going to have to fight with HTC to get it.

I dont know what you mean by this, the kernel we have with the leaks is probably as solid as its going to get since there seem to be no issues with the kernel itself but more with the the apk's playing well with eachother.
[Hero CDMA General] ThatGuyFromSprint:
I get what you're saying, however, the process to push a ~117mb file to a bunch of servers is a short process, especially on Sprint's fiber optic intranet. The other side is thay Sprint has more than sufficent server bandwidth and boxes to handle the update now.

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[Hero CDMA General] kelmar13:
I, for one, appreciate you being willing to provide this information to us. A glimpse of hope can be better than no news at all.

Thank you thatguyfromsprint (FWIW)
[Hero CDMA General] opie2l:
I have some news!!! I went to the sprint store yesterday and the guy had the 2.1 on a couple of there phones but it was for beta testing only. (i tried to get him to load it on my phone but he didn't budge) He said it will most likely be available on the 10th but nothing is written in stone. Just letting you guys know.. who knows if it is true, i'll believe it when i see it.
[Hero CDMA General] wtphoto:
lol could have been someone here that just decided to show people what 2.1 could be like I know that one of the guys at my local sprint store frequents this place and has loaded 2.1 on some of the phones he has there just for ****s and giggles
[Hero CDMA General] whiteonline:
It's humorous to see all the anger directed to Sprint/HTC.

If you all will recall, Sprint has stated officially a three month window in which to expect the update. It's the blogosphere you should be upset with who are coming out with specific dates without any facts.

As much as I would like to see the update released, I keep in mind that Sprint is still upholding their end.

Rant/rave if it isn't released before July 1.
[Hero CDMA General] tkirton:
First off...officially, it's 2Q 2010 (or 1H 2010, whichever you wish to believe in), which means they have until June 30th.

Second...if you're that pissed off about it, go down to Sprint and complain. Of course, it won't do you much good, since they'll recite 2Q 2010 or 1H 2010...in which case you're stuck until June 30.

So sit back, relax, and be patient.
[Hero CDMA General] lineman78:
I do hope for a kernel that supports overclocking in which I don't have to sacrifice my camera.

Also, I know sprint outsources it, but does anyone know if the implementation of NFL on the Fresh 2.0d ROM is what is expected in the final release. The original release had a main problem in that the streaming audio would not play as a service, but in the action. Therefore, you couldn't browse away, or worse let you screen turn off, which makes it completely unusable. I can't tell if they have fixed it, but it doesn't seem like it. Also, all of the sprint apps have a habit of starting in the background for no reason and consuming resources. I never had any of the widgets on my screen or ever started them, yet NFL and Sprint TV would always start in the background. It seems like the company that produced them doesn't understand some of the basic concepts of the android application environment.
[Hero CDMA General] myke66:
2.1 May 7th .. i know i know, but for reals

fguupptuio
[Hero CDMA General] jonnythan:
So you work at Best Buy Mobile and you saw this on an internal memo of some sort?

Sounds promising to me.
[Hero CDMA General] myke66:
I wfouffiorr
[Hero CDMA General] dirkyd3rk:
cant wait my fellow heronians
[Hero CDMA General] ThatGuyFromSprint:
Re: 2.1 May 7th .. i know i know, but for reals

haven't heard anything about friday being a definitive date at Sprint, but i won't rule it out.

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[Hero CDMA General] afma_afma:
heronians...hahahahaha...

i hope now this date is true...
[Hero CDMA General] Taterus Maximus:
Customer supplied usb cable? Can't back up sd card info? Looks like I'm posting some adds on Craigslist. I think BBM not having usb cables is hilarious.
[Hero CDMA General] TheBiles:
I will believe it when I see it.
[Hero CDMA General] jonnythan:
They can't back up everyone's SD card. And it just says "USB." I assume a transcription error that actually said USB drive or something similar.
[Hero CDMA General] Is_907:
Typical of BBY to throw crapware on a device they sell... sigh.

Looking forward to the rest of this week, then. Hope it works out for us, heh.
[Hero CDMA General] chfields:
+1 I've said this all along..............
[Hero CDMA General] afma_afma:
sure.....

+1...same here
[Hero CDMA General] mbell75:
You are wrong. Sprint changed it to "EARLY Q2" last month and said it TWICE. They have 11 days...
[Hero CDMA General] VoXHTC:
But Iron Man 2 comes out May 7th. This conflicts with my schedule. I'm requesting they make the update available on May 10th..

Hope everyone is ok with that.
[Hero CDMA General] afma_afma:
ok request granted...update pushed back to june 10th 2010..now you can watch movie for a whole month..:p
[Hero CDMA General] chfields:
Like the song says, beleive half of what you see and none of what you hear............
[Hero CDMA General] myke66:
Cant say it confirms the date
[Hero CDMA General] afma_afma:
hoping...hoping and hoping...:(
[Hero CDMA General] myke66:
Its not a USB cable, its a USB flashdrive. Thats kind of understood.
[Hero CDMA General] KyleIsTheBeast:
Nice... Looks like I have plans for the 7th :D
[Hero CDMA General] HFA68:
Thanks!!!! One can only hope.
[Hero CDMA General] bbv203:
They never changed the date they promised it by, they said "still on track for early 2Q"
[Hero CDMA General] MagnusRagnarok:
Now this sounds a little more likely. Thanks for the news. If i cared about 2.1 this would be awesome(if this actually comes to pass). Im waiting on htc to release their source for the .29 kernel which is not even allowed to be done with open source but hey, they make sweet android mobile devices so ill let it slide THIS time.....
[Hero CDMA General] extxn72:
Maybe I'm wrong, but by my calculations, "early Q2" would have been any time in April. Mid Q2 would be now, and late q2 would be June. Each quarter consists of 3 months, making a distinct beginning/middle/end of each quarter.

At any rate, here's what I got from HTC when I contacted them:

Does HTC not understand how their own phones work? That when you wipe a phone and set it up again with the same gmail account, all of your contacts come back, and you can see everything you'd previously downloaded in the market?

I'll tell you one thing: I'm never buying another HTC phone with Sense on it. I'll buy a stock Android phone from now on. Too bad the Samsung Moment owners are getting screwed in this too. They should have had their update a loooong time ago.
[Hero CDMA General] lmark:
I purchased my Hero from Best Buy when I upgraded from the instinct. They said that they did not have the USB cable that they needed to transfer my information and wanted me to purchase a USB cable for twenty somthing dollars that they just happen to have in stock. Needless to say I went with the Google contacts back-up option instead.
[Hero CDMA General] myke66:
The way BBYM transfers data from phone to phone is with a device that comes with about 25 different USB connectors. They could have lost the one needed for the transfer. BestBuy brings in enough business on its own without have to pull stuff like your saying. Trust me on this. Its not worth it for them to try to rip people off. Their prices alone handle that :P
[Hero CDMA General] Genjinaro:
Dude I can understand if you posted this on any other site who was oblivious to ROM flashin but, this is XDA developers. We've had 2.1 w/ sense for awhile & AOSP versions.

The beauty of any HTC phone (sense included) its that we don't have to wait long. Don't assume you're going to get the update faster (officially) just because it doesn't have HTC Sense. :p Just like you said, look at the Moment. Heck the HTC Magic, Galaxy, MyTouch3G etc.

Its a mixed basket no matter how you look at it.
[Hero CDMA General] mjb5406:
Best Buy is good for that, especially considering they are, quite possibly THE most expensive place to buy any cable! I needed an internal SATA cable to add a 2nd HD to my PC; they wanted something like $40 for it, and Fry's had it for like $5.99 (I go to the Fry's outside Chicago). They are really a ripoff, especially for their less-than-great house brands like Dynex and Insignia.