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[Hero CDMA General] ThatGuyFromSprint:
Good and Bad news today:

Good news, 2.1 is geared to be released this month

Bad news, as most of you have heard, the Nexus One will not be available on Sprint's network.

However more good news is this: Although it may seem that the same update cycle will begin with the EVO release, the plan at this point is continue what i said in the original post, which is this: Post 2.1 MRs will be OTA as long as sizes are within sprint's technical capabilities (9mb limit on OTA), Otherwise they will be OTA from Google or OEM sources.

Source:
[Hero CDMA General] Las_Vegas:
Could you possibly post those links to the Enhancements and Fixes from that notice?
[Hero CDMA General] bcnice20:
Quick q do you know exactly why sprint can only push a 9mb ota file while verizon is throwing out 80 plus ota updates like it's nothing
[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
im tired of the blurry screenshots. 2.1 will be out , when it's out, enough already with the damn rumors.
[Hero CDMA General] chfields:
AMEN!!!!!!
[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
:D .... and that's IF we get it at all!
[Hero CDMA General] tatonka_hero:
except that screenshot doesn't say a thing about the 2.1 update (unless I didn't read the whole thing lol). It talks about the N1 not being available on Sprint, which I had already guessed considering Google said they weren't going to produce a CDMA version
[Hero CDMA General] railstop:
It actually does mention the 2.1 update. about 2/3 the way down.
[Hero CDMA General] tatonka_hero:
good point.

I feel kinda sorry for all the people that were planning on getting the N1 though...sounded like a pretty large amount of people were planning on getting it.
[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
sprint just wants everyone to go 4g and pay more on their plans, eliminate the sero plan users and make the EVO the flagship android device which the hero was suppose to be and apparently failed. :confused:
[Hero CDMA General] scriz:
"Some customers may ask about the 2.1 platform for the HTC Hero and the Samsung Moment with Google. The wait is almost over -- the much anticipated software update is coming this month."
[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
we have been saying that for 3 months now. :rolleyes:
[Hero CDMA General] scriz:
Just quoting the screenshot. Don't shoot the messenger :O
[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
it's all good man, just gets frustrating all of these "rumors" empty ones at that!
[Hero CDMA General] Street_Knowledge:
sweet, does that mean you will stop posting here and on SU?

take fixxxer with you.
[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
in your dreams, i don't even know you, nor what your problem is... lets keep it that way ok! ;)
[Hero CDMA General] ap3604:
Sprint/Verizon = bunch of lying a**holes. Both of these caririers could have easily allowed unlocked N1's on their network without subsidizing but decided to block them altogether just to force their slaves into less options that are more expensive. I NEVER will support CDMA carriers that lie straight to our faces and don't follow through on their word :mad:
[Hero CDMA General] railstop:
I think the severe lack of communication from Sprint and Verizon is a major issue. If they only had updates for us on twitter or where ever, maybe things wouldn't be so bad. Bi-weekly or even once a month with specifics on the progress so we wouldn't guess and get pissed. Not just on the Hero or Moment, But any device where users are anticipating updates/upgrades.
[Hero CDMA General] ThatGuyFromSprint:
They can support more, however, no one wants to not use their phone for extended periods, basically verizon allows it, so you can go over your data cap easier as well as having the non-data users stacking a huge bill from casual data usage. Sprint actually tries to keep those costs down.

I'll see what I can do.

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[Hero CDMA General] afma_afma:
man looking at all these rumors() makes my day...brings in a little bit of excitement....:)
[Hero CDMA General] ThatGuyFromSprint:
i don't fully understand the constant reference to these being rumors... i understand that a lot of people want to classify them as such due to the past experiences from the information that has been received... but i think what makes me question the thought process is that, speaking for myself, the information presented is backed by documentation that should suffice for clarification and dispell the idea of it being a rumor...

I guess what I'm trying to get at is this:

Rumor: –noun: a story or statement in general circulation without confirmation or certainty as to facts.

I'm fairly certain that at the time of my postings they were fact according to the documentation available to us... while this has been debunked since... the documentation that i supplied is as fact as you're going to get... and i don't think it dictates the classification as "rumor".

....I could just be rambling unnecessarily...

EDIT: I'm not saying that you can't call them rumors, everyone is entitled to their opinion... I'm just appealing to the idea that, I personally don't think that, they aren't as much rumor as postings without acceptable documentation to back them up....
[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
ok you work for sprint right? ask them what the hell is taking soo damn long.
[Hero CDMA General] SAlpIche:
same as "without confirmation or certainty as to facts"?

thus rumors

IMHO

Sorry brother but that didn't make sense, regardless of what we see or hear at my location we still call them rumors till we get the email or see it on iconnect.
[Hero CDMA General] jonnythan:
Rumor: "a statement or report current without known authority for its truth"
[Hero CDMA General] duplissi:
I wish it would come out
[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
well i heard august...so there! :rolleyes:
[Hero CDMA General] jerry43812:
And I heard that it was June 29, due to unforseen circumstances

unforseen circumstances = 2.1 jumped out of it's box earlier and bit the pinky finger off of one of the testers. They had to sedate it and found this massive ****in tumor growing in it's earlobe.
[Hero CDMA General] Tipharet:
I think you are misunderstood. The hero was not a "flagship" android device. This was the first Sprint Android device and as an early adopter all the problems that go with doing so you also adopted.

Your logic is flawed. 4G is not and will not be available for everyone also 4G will most likely be a feature you can opt not to pay for. I have no problem with technology advancing either, and specially our broadband networks.

As far as I also know, the push away from grandfather mobile plans has been occurring long before the hero. Of course they want everyone within a standard deviation -- providing consistency across you customer base makes it better for both parties.

The Hero is not adequate enough to be a flagship device for a market niche, the EVO as far as specs goes is a perfect platform to ride for a bit.
[Hero CDMA General] ThatGuyFromSprint:
The information I get is the information I share with you

If you have access to the tech portal, look under the 911 section.

It's as close to fact as you'e going to get

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[Hero CDMA General] rdisanza:
Being a NOOB, I know OTA = Over The Air and I only presume that OTW = Over The Web , is this correct?

Also, will Sprint notify its customers of the update or is it up to the customers to keep checking the Sprint Web site for software updates?

Thanks in advance
[Hero CDMA General] tkirton:
Okay...we can call them

vapordate

... borrowed from the term vaporware. You know the term, where someone tells you something is going to release software, but it never happens.

In this context, it's when someone says from some source (official or otherwise) that the date of the 2.1 update will be some date in the future, only for that date to come and go without the update happening.
[Hero CDMA General] chfields:
Documentation means nothing if it isn't true.........which, so far is the case.....
[Hero CDMA General] ThatGuyFromSprint:
Makes perfect sense.

OTW = Over The Wire

With the attention being given to the update from customers, I would like to think that you will hear something, most likely through twitter, but I can't promise that.

I have yet to see the most recent become untrue.

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[Hero CDMA General] DroidDoes2.1:
Happy Birthday to meeeeee!

May 21st.

androidandme.com/2010/05/news/best-buy-pegs-may-21st-for-sprint-hero-2-1-upgrade/

NOT A FACT COOKIES!
[Hero CDMA General] ThatGuyFromSprint:
Correct, no specific date is fact, the closest we have is that it will be out this month

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[Hero CDMA General] chfields:
I'm sure eventually you will get one that actually is true...until then .........
[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
i don't even give two ****s about the update anymore, sprint failed and that's sad.
[Hero CDMA General] ThatGuyFromSprint:
I see what you're implying, and I won't disagree, as I stated before, only sharing the information I have received... if you're skeptical, I completely understand, especially considering the past dates being missed...

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[Hero CDMA General] scout7:
To bad we like to shoot the messenger around here...

Thanks for sharing the info that you can.
[Hero CDMA General] dmystic1:
So I called sprint techs about 3 hours ago wanting to know how much longer I am going to be without mms on my hero. Tech says thanks for being patient but I was just told the 2.1 firmware is now available at HTC.com. I reply really I just checked this morning and there was no update there, but ill check again. Tech says, well I don't know how much you know, but the update was held back because we were trying to be able to send it out direct to your phone, but our systems were not capable. But it is now availabe for download or you can go into the sprint store and they can take care of it for you. Is there anything else sir? I just bit my tongue and said no, thank you. What a load of bs. Sprint=Fail!
[Hero CDMA General] bbv203:
But I only see a HTC Sync update for the Hero:confused: Damn csr's
[Hero CDMA General] ThatGuyFromSprint:
moment's 2.1 update is out, as has been pointed out in other posts...

available at sprint.com/download

the site still reads the old update, however, the download is 101mb instead of 84mb, and installs 2.1 on the moment (just tested on the gf's phone.)

Although the moment update is out, we didn't receive any news at work today about the hero update, it's still slated for release this month, but I've yet to find a date...

Most likely you'll see information for it appear the day before, as has happened with the Moment.
[Hero CDMA General] craigpicc:
ah...what?

Sprintguy....I don't see it....still says 84MB for the only update that is there.

Am I missing something?
[Hero CDMA General] smw6180:
If you download it, it's 101mb which is the actual 2.1 update confirmed by other users. They just didn't change the text.
[Hero CDMA General] Kcarpenter:
Yes, the text on the page hasn't changed yyet for the update - There is still no official horns and fanfare so to speak.

If you download the file, its 101 mb and Android 2.1

To the question about if we don't get 2.1 on hero -

No we would not get the kernel source. HTC Would not be legaly obligated to hand it out then, and have no incentive to do so.
[Hero CDMA General] craigpicc:
thanks

i knew i missed something.
[Hero CDMA General] pb4life754:
i work for sprint and i have heard people saying the same thing and i prove them wrong becasu they didnt check to see if they were searching in the us or worldwide because they see the gsm hero and think its the same thing there was a big email that went out after i found out what they were saying
[Hero CDMA General] ThatGuyFromSprint:
I'm glad someone did, I was getting sick of correcting people constantly

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[Hero CDMA General] effreyj007:
So the Download page actually says 2.1 Update for Samsung Moment Now.

shop.sprint.com/en/software_downloads/pda_smartphone/samsung_moment.shtml

What a load of Crap. Where is the Hero Update?
[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
some are saying a week from now. i think it has alot to do with issues with sense.
[Hero CDMA General] tatonka_hero:
It's now officially official: http://twitter.com/sprint

I'd say the Hero update will be out next Friday at the latest. Probably just using the Moment update to test their servers and make sure it can handle the load that the Hero users will put on it :p
[Hero CDMA General] rank78:
It would be nice if these people released a heads-up prior to everyone finding it on their own. I understand not releasing speculative dates far in advance and pissing off people when they don't meet the deadline, but you'd think with all the upset customers waiting for their update that at least a 24hr notice would suffice. :rolleyes:
[Hero CDMA General] Kcarpenter:
I guess from here on out we pray no one breaks there phone and has to get a refurb until we root 2.1. Man that would suck. :p
[Hero CDMA General] dre4402:
any piks of 2.1 on the moment?
[Hero CDMA General] barbiedollish:
AndroidCentral is reporting that 2.1 for the Hero has been leaked and provided a link as well.
[Hero CDMA General] Wabem:
Here's the link to the RUU and the article.

http://www.4shared.com/file/gfPzbRcS/RUU_Hero_C_Sprint_2276515_R_si.html

http://www.androidcentral.com/sprint-htc-hero-android-21-software-leaked
[Hero CDMA General] VinceOB:
You're a few hours late.
[Hero CDMA General] barbiedollish:
Sorry. I didn't see the thread at first.
[Hero CDMA General] n388mm:
I work at best buy and a memo was released through our employee toolkit stating that the Hero 2.1 update was delayed until 5/21.

take from it what you will.
[Hero CDMA General] HeroMeng:
At this point, quite frankly.... I don't give a rat's ass when the release date is. This RUU is signed with release-keys as opposed to test-keys which means exactly what you think it means.... it's the release that will be released OTW to our Heroes.
[Hero CDMA General] tatonka_hero:
2.1 on the moment looks basically exactly the same as 1.5 did, with the exception of the lockscreen being the slide sideways to unlock. There's some enhancements to the camera app, and a few other things as well. Still appears to have the CDMA lockout issue though, which should have been fixed
[Hero CDMA General] mom2vanessa:
2.1

Did anyone have problems updating? I have! I have tried 4 times and it still won't do it for me on my computer. I called Sprint last night and was told I could bring it in for the update this morning. I hope there is a huge difference! :)
[Hero CDMA General] ThatGuyFromSprint:
Hero or Moment?
[Hero CDMA General] kronium:
Flashed the Official 2.1 Hero rom, and I'm missing a lot of apps in the marketplace. I assume you can't push a new build.prop without root? How long before we see root? Thank You
[Hero CDMA General] smw6180:
Did you use the RUU? You're right that doesn't have root. As for 'how long'...whenever the devs get around to it, is my guess. The old way to root it no longer works, and the devs have just been pulling the ROM from the RUU in order to give a rooted version of it out.
[Hero CDMA General] ks_texas:
HTC "Leaked" Final ROM RUU_Hero_C_Sprint_2276515_R_si.exe

I have installed this update and I love it! Here is the breakdown of my experience:

Downloaded ASTRO File Manager for Android

Used ASTRO File Manager to back up my Apps to my SD card

Unplugged my Sprint HTC Hero from the USB cable

I installed the newest HTC Driver for my phone from the HTC web site

Plugged my phone in with the USB cable

New driver installed successfully.

Executed RUU_Hero_C_Sprint_2276515_R_si.exe

Followed the instructions (which were very easy)

Waited about 5 minutes - Success!

Phone rebooted and walked me through the initial setup

Take the time to set up Facebook and your Gmail account. This will save you trouble later.

Next steps :

Open the Market application and download ASTRO File Manager again

Once installed, use it to browse the app_backup folder on your SD card

You will see your backed up apps. Click each app to install. Simple!

There is an updated Facebook, Google Maps and Official Twitter app you can download from the market. I noticed that once I installed the Facebook app, I had to reboot my phone to add the Widget to one of my screens.

Observations :

Startup time is quicker

The interface is snappier and more responsive

It's an amazing improvement from 1.5 overall

The Facebook Friend-Link functionality does exist. However, you need to launch the Facebook program at least once and sign in before you can link Contacts to Facebook friends.

Take your time and explore all of the features of your phone. A lot has changed. It's still easy to use, but it looks a lot better.

I am extremely pleased with the upgrade. I've had it running for about 2 hours now.

Note : I tried to post some relevant links to the apps and tools I used to accomplish this. However, I'm new and the system won't let me. Next time perhaps :-)

DISCLAIMER

Your experience may vary drastically from mine. This worked for me. I'm not advising you to do this. Furthermore, if you do this, Senior Member, tstack77 will impose his will upon you.

To please the RUU Gods, it has been mandated by the Illuminati that I let you know that doing what I did will prevent you from rooting your phone. /sacrifice to the Gods

/DISCLAIMER
[Hero CDMA General] afma_afma:
thank you...:)
[Hero CDMA General] tstack77:
What the hell were you thinking? DO NOT RUN THE RUU!

repeat for all noobs...DO NOT RUN THE RUU

Congrats texas, you just locked yourself out of root. If that's ok with you, I really can't understand why you would ever join this site.
[Hero CDMA General] ks_texas:
No matter what you do, or how you do it - someone will always flame you. :-)

Root means nothing to me. The phone does everything I need it to do. I joined this board because I wanted to share some information I came across. You certainly have the option to not read it.

To everyone else - enjoy!
[Hero CDMA General] afma_afma:
+1

10charsfail
[Hero CDMA General] tstack77:
If root means nothing to you, you need to put a disclaimer so new people to this site do not blindly follow your little walkthrough.

It has nothing to do with me not reading your post. It has everything to do with you assuming that no one else cares for root like you do, and not labeling it properly for all the others that will read your post.

It's irresponsible.
[Hero CDMA General] ks_texas:
Kind sir if you will read my original post, I put a disclaimer in Bold Red Letters :-) This will be my last post on this topic as I'm certain you're the only one that cares. However, please see my original post. I clearly state "I advise you not to do this."

Apologies to everyone else for this nonsense.
[Hero CDMA General] tstack77:
That is a ****ty disclaimer that tells no one that they will lose root. Please change it to display:

No one should flash this RUU by itself until we root 2.1!!!

-Karl
[Hero CDMA General] VinceOB:
Who the hell made you the RUU Police? If people want to flash the RUU let them. If they dont, so what? If people do flash RUU and they wanted root to begin with and they didnt do a search PRIOR to coming on to these boards, then screw em, its their own fault for not reading up on it. Try not to get all butt hurt over the internet. Seriously, who cares...
[Hero CDMA General] tstack77:
While I agree 100% on the searching part, I hate to see the board fill up with the "help I ran the ruu" threads that you know we're going to see...

:rolleyes:

-RUU police
[Hero CDMA General] VinceOB:
Ok, so you just made yourself the honorary RUU Police.
[Hero CDMA General] afma_afma:
lol...ok MR.RUU police.... :p
[Hero CDMA General] tstack77:
so it begins...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=682263

:rolleyes:
[Hero CDMA General] afma_afma:
yeah when i saw that thread, i was like ok now i need to initiate the RUU Police Alert ..lol..;)
[Hero CDMA General] centran:
I would like to start a trend whenever someone does this by posting this link in the thread

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE#t=0m49s
[Hero CDMA General] ThatGuyFromSprint:
Today is the day, fellow hero users

http://support.sprint.com/support/article/Find_and_update_the_software_version_on_your_HTC_Hero/case-gb746811-20091009-155624

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[Hero CDMA General] smstutler:
Thanks for the update, saw in another thread already though. Plus HTC hasn't updated their download links yet so it's not up yet. Good to see you back and on the ball though man.
[Hero CDMA General] ThatGuyFromSprint:
I had just got to work when I posted, we saw the lack of links and email the department that handles that portion of the business, as soon as we hear something back, I'll be sure to pass it along.

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[Hero CDMA General] Kcarpenter:
Gotta say, I am kind of upset that this build is the same as the leak. There are still issues....:(
[Hero CDMA General] ThatGuyFromSprint:
Update is now on the sprint website

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[Hero CDMA General] dwertz:
https://secure.htc.com/us/support/hero-sprint/downloads/

Remember, if you install this, you will lose root.
[Hero CDMA General] pyropup55:
is someone working on a way to root this? I'd like to do it just so everything functions correctly but if it's not rootable yet I'll wait
[Hero CDMA General] DanWalker:
Rumor has it that not everything will function...
[Hero CDMA General] gunnyman:
yeah apparently Bluetooth is still broken.
[Hero CDMA General] dwertz:
Apparently this is the same as the Leaked one (i did not verify, someone said the md5 was the same), but damage removed a few apk like teeter

Take in account this does not include the radio

Rom

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=681697

Radio

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=681703
[Hero CDMA General] ThatGuyFromSprint:
if i told you, there'd be a huge chance that i would be fired, and in this current economic climate, i'm not risking it... however, Best Buy did leak the price of the EVO (although it's from ozcar who got it from some random rep, so it may still be speculation...)

appreciate it :)

I'll update at release, so everyone will know... you may or may not get a message on your phone... more likely not

You may need to roll back to 1.5... however, if you call TSS or ATS and tell them you want to do a hard reset (or ##RTN), it will roll your phone back to factory defaults (including stock 1.5)
[Hero CDMA General] Kcarpenter:
Bumping the thread for a laugh!!!

I was chatting with sprint today here is the text and a screen shot of the chat window. Flame/Laugh away

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Ahhhhh **** the screen changed before I could grab a snip of it.
[Hero CDMA General] danknee:
Too bad the factory reset doesn't roll back your hboot (for those that installed the 2.1 ruu test build .exe). Hopefully the official 2.1 uses the same hboot or one that is newer than 1.47.0000.
[Hero CDMA General] CarbonKang:
How do you risk losing your job? Its not like they are on here and they know who you are by your user name..
[Hero CDMA General] xtkxhom3r:
you would be surprised....
[Hero CDMA General] Kcarpenter:
The FBI tends to get involved with insider trading schemes. Anything that could lift's sprints stocks, including a minor software update, if leaked could be misconstrued as "insider trading".

Where I work we have incredibly strict policies about releasing date information, even if it is set in stone. Everything has to go through legal and media relations before any one of us peeons can talk about anything.

Job will be lost if you do something wrong. I have come close a few times.
[Hero CDMA General] 98classic:
Im sure shes talkin about the MR from many moons ago