yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 General] Wil Badger:
Uh so whats with the link to some the link to online lotto if your asking questions about Quake.

Now as for running quake on the HD. I'm sure it's do able but without a keyboard it would be a pain. I have played it on my Fuze and know that it would play with just the touch screen but I still like to have keys mapped.
[HD2 General] 3kgt:
HMm the link is to the devolopers site!

The link i got the games from is a warez :P

It dosent run in MY HD2, Thats why im asking if some one have been able to make it work!
[HD2 General] Archer:
You need to get in touch with the developers who will fully support their customers.

Oh.... you said warez? :p
[HD2 General] Wil Badger:
LOL ........I mean I guess I could get off my lazy arse to make it run on my HD2 but like I said I would really like to have hardware keys over having to stroke my finger all over the screen. When you play in that fashion it's next to impossible to see what is going on and where your aiming.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] attn1:
Excerpts from THIS 1/6/2010 press release

Will they make it? Will they be close? What Devices?

My guesses for the last three promised for mid year (though I don't think they're on track to make it), after the Moto Backflip and the Dell Aero:

* HTC Legend

* HTC Desire

* HTC Slide out dealie (their exclusive HTC)

After that, maybe the Samsung Galaxy S, Maybe a Moto Milestone.

If these things don't come to pass, then it will lend support to those that say that AT&T is enjoying too much success with it's iphone exclusivity to rock that boat by taking Android seriously. If AT&T keeps it's word, it will be an interesting 39 days until the end of the first half of the year.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] doctajay:
with the recent rumors about the Lg Aloha, Samsung Galaxy S, Dell Aero, Dell Streak it seems like they might get some decent android phones. Only time will tell if they will jack them up like they did the backflip
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Ninjineer:
AT&T has a habit of taking a good concept phone, castrating it, pricing it way too high, slapping their Nazi data plan requirement policies on it, and sticking it on the market. Nothing will change.

People with half a neuron buy their phones third-party, unlocked. My rooted G1 outperforms anything stock that AT&T puts out, thanks to the modding community.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] friend'scatdied:
Legend and Desire seem like plausible candidates. Also there was a "confirmed" rumor about the Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10, not sure what happened with regard to that one.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dvdivx:
The Desire is too nice. I'm sure they'll pick 4 more craptastic Android phones if that. They may have a different version of what "the middle of the year" means.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] attn1:
Yeah, that thought occurred to me, but I don't think the bean counting year is the version they were referring to in the press release, though if they fail it could be a convenient excuse.

I hope they get on the stick - the HTC Desire would be a great fit.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] garringm:
the Sony xperia x10a, HTC Desire and Dell Aero mini ar the only ones left my guess is the Nexus 1 is the HTC exlcusive From a post I read yesterday ATT Iphone contract done in June? maybe it was July but its over with for sure this year Read somewhere local to me VZW picking up the iPhone 4, 3 employees in the store have the phone in their possession and are bound by a confidentiality agreement, but this is all speculation still but according to this they will come close to doing it even though all release dates are unofficial. My guess is they are having problems with branding and keeping them locked to their crapware only. http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/AT-T-Cingular-carrier-c_14_3.html

I'm sure this all old news though
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mbaseball3:
So what does this say for an exclusive iPhone retailer selling more and more android phones....wonder how Stevie jobs feels bout this lol
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] android_newbee:
hi there

i really need your help. i'm trying to install android on my HTC TyTnII. But i'm having problems to install.

can you please help me to get Android run on my Kaiser?

Right now i'm running the windows mobile 6.1. I want to install Android as a secondary OS.

i followed this installation guide.

androidonhtc.com/wiki/Installing_Android

1. I went to this link to download files.

androidonhtc.com/wiki/Latest_Builds_%28Kaiser%29

2. I downloaded the basefiles-20091116.zip

vogue-android.googlecode.com/files/basefiles-20091116.zip

3. Unzipped this zip file. Renamed the default-kaiser.txt to default.txt and moved the whole folder "android" to my storagecard.

4. then i downloaded the haretinstall.zip and unzipped that file as well. I moved the folder "andboot" to my storagecard.

sourceforge.net/projects/androidhtc/files/2010-02-20/haretinstall.zip/download

5. then i downloaded the polymod_2.1g.zip and unzipped that file. I moved the file "androidinstall.tar" to my storagecard as well.

ponack.net/poly/2.1g/polymod_2.1g.zip

6. i clicked than on "haret.exe" and clicked on Run. the android started to load but then it stops. It gives me this error.

--------

....

Checking for partition...

s2fsck 1.41.4 (27-Jan-209)

ext2fs_check_if_mount: No such file or directory while determing whether /dev/block/loop0 is mounted.

/dev/block/loop0 was not cleanly unmounted. check for ced.

Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes

Pass 2: Checking directory structure

Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity

Pass 4: Checking reference counts

Pass 5: Checking group summary information

/dev/block/loop0: 11/65536 files (0.0% non-contigous), 10335/262144 blocks

losetup: /dev/block/loop1: No such file or directory

Failed

Failed to find system.im on SD Card

/bib/sh: can't access tty1 job control turned off

/ #

--------

Can anyone help me out to solve the problem?

Do i need to do some partition? if yes...how can i do it? i'm using a windows xp OS.

This is how my SD-storagecard looks like:

/[android]

/[android]/[andboot]

/[android]/androidinstall.tar

Thank you for your support.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
The androidinstall.tar should be in andboot folder, with all the haret files. andboot must be in root of SD card.

/

/andboot

If you were installing to nand it'd be :

/KAISimg.nbh

/andboot

You do not need to partition the SD card, just make sure it is formatted FAT32, not FAT
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] android_newbee:
hi zenity

thanks for the response. I did what you said. Still having the same problem with the same error message.

how do i check format of my sd card? i've never formated it before. it's the original sd card.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Depends if you have an sd card reader and adaptor for micro-sd, if you do you can just format it in windows.

It's likely that it's formatted FAT, most new pre-formatted micro-sd are formatted FAT as standard, how are you transferring files to the sd at the moment?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] android_newbee:
i connected my htc with microsoft activesync then transfered the files via windows explorer.

i'm still struggeling to get android run on my device.

are those steps correct? or am i doing something totally wrong?

those installation guide are too complicated for me. the instructions are mostly for total replacement of the OS. But i would like to keep my windows mobile because of tomtom navigator. I want to make both OS run with Dual booting function.

if you are so kind...can you please guide me to make this run? I'll be thankful for that.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Best way to format an SD card is to use a card reader and micro-sd adaptor, I've never tried to format an SD with winmo or through activesync, so I'm not sure how easy that is.

I have transferred the files via activesync before, and that works fine, but your SD card must be FAT32, winmo probably does not know the difference, I'm sure there must be a way to format the card FAT32 in winmo, but I cannot think of one, I'll look into it though. I think total commander is able to show what type of format the sd card is, but don't know if it's able to format it.

All the Haret files plus the androidinstall.tar must be in the andboot folder on the SD card, you do not need any other files or folders on the card, but it should not matter if there are any.

You will need an SD card of at least 1GB, 2Gb is better.

I know the guide is meant for Nand install, but does show the installer screen part clearly, and the install procedure is the same for nand and haret, and shows the installer screen you should see when installing on FAT32, (haret).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] thebulletfromhell:
Download Card Export or WM5Storage to mount the card. Then format it like you would do with a usb stick.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyler51773:
me too

I get the same error.

I have haretinstall and androidinstall.tgz in the /andboot folder.

I renamed default.txt to default.txt.no

I renamed default-kaiser.txt to default.txt

I edited default.txt to point to zImage-eclair

I tried with the regular zImage

I wait till it ask for dpad or vol up button then I press and hold dpad. It never recognizes? Or thats my guess from what has been said here.

right clicking on the drive from within windows using a card reader it says fat32.

When I press dpad it prints a ^@ to the screen, ironically it does the same key for ok. I don't see how I can hold down the vol up/down key cause its a jog wheel? Should I try dpad down?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] thebulletfromhell:
Volume Up Is the RIght SOftKey. FOr some build only that work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] android_newbee:
@zenity: i manage to format my miniSD to fat32. it was fat before. but the problem is still there..does anyone else know how to deal with this?

as tyler51773 already mentioned..i fi start the "haret" which is stored in "andboot" folder it request to hold down the vol button. although i pressed the vol. button,,,it still doesn't work. getting the same error message like tyler51773

seems like i'm totally lost. someone please help!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] android_newbee:
can anyone write down a clean instruction how to install the kaiser on SD incl. the right link (instead of telling users to find out the right one) without wiping out the windows mobile. this would be more helpful to us.

i'm sure there are other users who might be interested in this too.

thankx
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Dukenukemx:
When you run Haret and see scrolling text, immediately hold down the d-pad or vol button. Don't wait for it to ask.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] lenzen24:
hi all,

i have the same problem. the instructions seems to be bad. i cant run it and tried many things. in install-instructions says "androidinstall.tar" but download is androidinstall.tgz.

i don't know if its a big mistake, but someone should make a new "correct" instruction with correct files. maybe it then will be worked.

i also stuck on "can't found system.img"

greetz an sorry for my english
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] android_newbee:
@dukennukemx: i did what you said. no improvement.

@lenzen24: i'm 100% with you!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] lenzen24:
i tried again,

but also failed on find system.img on sd-card

hope someone has a solution, becaused i woudn't flash a image over my wm6.5.

greetz lenzen
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyler51773:
progress

The right soft key button worked, (i.e. the one right above the mail, to the left of the red phone to the right of the dpad just to be perfectly clear for anyone else).

I got the menu, and then it said unbalanced irq 102, unbalanced irq 86?, unbalanced irq 87? it froze then rebooted.

Second try, I hold down the right softkey after i see the penguin. I get the menu with the ok warning. I try all the buttons the warning stays up. I open up the keyboard. I press enter I now am in the menu.

The install option is missing? I have 1. fix permisions. (vs it saying install?) The dpad doesn't seem to work. I have 7 options. The last option is quit. The 6th one is recovery. 5 is wipe. As I'm staring at errors and not the menu I forget which the rest are. I remember seeing a backup/restore. Then their is wipe. Their was also the wipe cache options.

When I try to navigate the menu its a no go. The only real options I have is fix permissions. That leads to errors due to a missing system.img that hasn't been made yet? And then their is quit. I get to quit using the left opt key, and I can get to fix perms using the right opt key. If i open up the keyboard and try every key the only key the menu responds to is enter. I also tried w/ fn lock, but not shift, no responce to the arrow keys was a bummer. When I accessed a shell I can atleast confirm that qwerty mapping was right, but didn't hang out long enough to see the rest of the keymap.

Should I try zimage-eclair? I will of course do that at some compulsive moment, but hey, maybe I wont, or maybe I will and say I haven't yet - maybe I already have {knowingly or not}.. do I need some options in my default.txt? Should I try a different androidinstall? this is polymod-2.1g

This is actually a Tilt vs a Kaiser.

Thanks for the speedy replies and help!

Tyler
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Problems with the install option not appearing are usually caused by not formatting the sd as FAT32, or a wrongly set up sd card, for haret installs, everything goes in andboot folder, for nand, androidinstal.tar, (or tgz), in andboot folder, kaisimg.nbh in root, the install instructions are clear enough, they are just not as easy to follow for inexperienced users, and tilt and kaiser are the same thing, if you look under the battery it will say 'kaisxxx'.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyler51773:
cool

I feel you about short emails making one sound bad! I made that mistake a few times. I actually hate email. I wrote this very funny email to my advisor, he liked it, and forwarded to his boss - just communicating, not to share a laugh or to complain, but to answer a question he did not know; atleast I was told that as I was then later forced to ask him 'did I make you mad?'. Anyhow I got chewed out for professionalism by the department chair which is not the way to a elect a major. Funny enough, I had decided writing funny was the way to go after i had peeved someone off for writing short almost angry sounding emails. In short I hate email/communicating via text.

I was thinking about the whole solution thing. If i need to do a key remap maybe we could just write up a shell script and I could execute it from /sdcard and then re-execute the installer ? unknown.sh??

Also, if you produce some img files what's to stop you from sharing those? I'd totally be willing to try it, maybe it'll work, maybe it'll break wifi calibration? who knows?

Bug found:

http://code.google.com/p/vogue-android/issues/detail?id=124#makechanges

set cmdline "ppp.nostart=0 pm.sleep_mode=1 mddi.width=240 mddi.height=320 no_console_suspend board-kaiser-keypad.atttilt=1"

just tried to change board-kaiser-keypad.atttilt=1 with no results :(

Just my .02c
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Keyboard mapping is hardcoded in the zImage, so the only way to change it is using cmdline params, as far as I know the dpad mapping is the same on all kaiser models, if pressing dpad centre gets you ^@ then it's working as it should, not sure why it would be unable to navigate the installer menu, as I'm sure you already checked the dpad functions correctly in winmo.

You could always try another zImage, perhaps an older one, since newer zImages have been known to break things occasionally.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyler51773:
that's bad.

I'll try two zImage's one from like December and the newest one that fixes gps. but it looks like we either need a work around, or we're going to have to wait till someone fixes the kernel, and that spells a month or two. Please zennity I bet you can figure out a .sh script to make the key's work then i'm sure you can send it up the tree). I'm not sure whats avail in the initrd.gz but I'm not setup to play with it, and I need to study, break me from this addiction i call TROUBLE-shooting. Make it work! PleaSe?!

The rest of you guys trying to run off sdcard kaiser and haret please go to:

http://code.google.com/p/vogue-andr...pe Status Priority Component Owner Summary#c2

click the little vote icon so the issue get's raised. It's been hanging around for 2 months already.

Next question:

Is it possible to bypass haret, and maintain a winmo install? How is everyone running this on a kaiser in the first place if the kernel is doing the keymap wrong? It doesn't sound like a kernel issue then, it sounds like a haret issue? Which doesn't make much sense at all either.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyler51773:
Feeling good!

Fixed it!

I used the updated kernel found in the forum for gps fix. The dpad now works.

Kernel Location: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=660158

Trying to install now.

Thanks Zennity!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyler51773:
Myn/Poly - No luck.

Using the custom kernel the phone didn't work. I had zero sound, no mic. Phone calls did not work. The phone seemed to dial. I got a dial indicator. data worked, wifi worked. Myn's did look pretty sweet.

Trying Polymod now.

using androidinstall.tgz from polymod_2.1g.zip located in /andboot of sdcard

Polymod was missing the install option. going to give it another go. mount showed the sdcard mounted.

bootlog.txt

sh: 2: unknown operand

e2fsck 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)

e2fsck: while determining whether /dev/block/loop1 is mounted

/dev/block/loop1: clean, 639/65536 files, 97452/262144 blocks

e2fsck 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)

e2fsck: while determining whether /dev/block/loop0 is mounted

/dev/block/loop0 was not cleanly unmounted, check forced.

Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes

Pass 2: Checking directory structure

Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity

Pass 4: Checking reference counts

Pass 5: Checking group summary information

/dev/block/loop0: 381/65536 files (4.2% non-contiguous), 37136/262144 blocks

exports.txt

#export RM_HIDE_dataloc='1'

#export RM_HIDE_fixapps='1'

#export RM_HIDE_install='1'

#export RM_HIDE_sysloc='1'

#export RM_HIDE_update='1'

export RM_dataloc='2'

export RM_sysloc='2'

export RM_wipedataforsys='yes'

Any advice / fixes appreciated? should I just partition the sdcard for ext?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyler51773:
More interesting tidbits.

So I just partitioned the sdcard. I did three primary partitions. one 1.3gb fat32, and basically 2x300mb ext2

I put all the files in and the custom kernel, still no install option, but I do get an the installation choices menu. GO FIGURE. Going to grab an nbh file now and do the research to install to flash only as that appears to be an option.

For those that don't have linux, grab wubi from http://wubi-installer.org/ and use the synaptic package manager to install gparted .. ubtuntu has really upgraded themselves this round. I normally look at linux as a server operating system but now I'm getting near tempted. I've done the linux workstation thing before, (mostly while I was developing for the server operating system), but this is FAST... I haven't even optimized. I use xp, so if this linux is slightly lagging against 7 that says something.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xPreSiDenT:
every build Ive tried has the same installer menu as far as I've seen(and I've tried almost all builds available for kaiser), although ive never run android from haret. The first option is always install system. The most common reason for no sound etc on phone is not having the latest radio. Try that if you havent. You should also check out the thread with a name like EXT2/sdcard/nand on kaiser... you should go through it and remember, running from haret will never wipe your winmo. Although if I were in your place, id pick a weekend and backup my winmo with some backup tool like sprite backup and do a nand install. in case i didnt like android or couldnt find what I needed to make it work full time, Id go back to winmo and restore my backup, restoring registry and apps and everything.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyler51773:
Which radio?

Yeah, I don't get why the two setups don't have an install option, while the other two do? I wish i knew how to diff them :) I just don't know where to begin to look.

The radio had been on my mind. Which one do you use? I've been using 1.71.09.01.eMo forever now.. I was pretty sure it was the latest..

I sort of found it funny that sound used to work back in the system.img days [December], but now its not seen. Wonder what changed?

Thanks for getting back at me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyler51773:
no go on 1.70.19.09

I tried 1.70.19.09. Wasn't even to make a call. I think with emo I was able to make a call. Although I had just flashed it, and then subsequently ran android from haret. maybe if I prodded it I coud make it able to call. But, still no sound. So how could I prod sound into working. Maybe I need to play a wave file before I launch droid?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Dukenukemx:
Yep, Ubuntu came a long way, especially Lucid 10.04.

The last time I tried Ubuntu was 3 years ago, and it was horrible. Recently I tried it on my PowerBook G4 and it was really good, except for a lot of bugs due to have a PowerPC CPU.

Honestly, I'm thinking of using Ubuntu on my main PC, but I don't think it's ready just yet. Waiting for things like Wine to catch up and 10.10 is said to have a lot of new goodies.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xPreSiDenT:
I use the latest radio, dont remember the version number but its the last one in the wiki list, and I've never had calling problems with it on any android roms. sorry but I guess its some other problem for you then.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] anagarika:
Tyler,

I've been also trying to get Poly 2.1g on SD. Not able to. The last successful one I did was 2b (I guess). Posted on poly's thread, and being told to format FAT32, hold DPAD etc. None worked.

I'm not as knowledgeable as you, but I could put back my old poly build on the same SD card & it booted fine.

Your lengthy disourse here with duke & zen shared some light & much more useful than the response I got.

For now, my conclusion is that the install method developed for NAND doesn't work for SD. The old method using system image, sqsh (?) actually worked. So I can rest in peace knowing it's not just I was too stupid to follow instruction. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyler51773:
Yep, I have had no further progress. I'm get so annoyed by hearing how simple and easy it is too. The farthest I got was with 2 builds, I can't remember which ones they where off the top of my head and there was no sound from either one, it would be nice if they'd fix this. The only thing I have left to try is using my kernel from December when the old method was system.img and see if I get some sound, because sound was working then, but I doubt it. Basically they abandoned new users, I mean haret method, which means if your not willing to marry android you and getting any droid play :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xPreSiDenT:
One of the most common reasons for no sound is an old radio. try the latest radio.