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[Desire General] RaptorRVL:
Sorry to hear you had such a bad experience with the Desire.

Battery life imho is about the same as my Hero or Diamond or Omnia.

They all last a day with heavy usage. And when you leave the phone alone it will last two days.

Especially when using a lot of services that constantly use the internet. Those things use loads of power.

As for the sun, I use a anti glare protector now and that works great. I don't find the Desire extra hard to read outside when compared to the other phones I had. They all reflected so much in direct sunlight, they were all unusable. Without the anti glare that is, but anti glare us at the cost of quality.

Anyway, perhaps its best for you to wait. Wait for a phone with super amoled screen, bigger battery and more efficient chip.

But battery life is a common problem with electronics these days. Smartphones, laptops, netbooks and tablets all are build around the battery. A constant tradeoff between battery and power consumption. Endurance or performance.

Until we see some new battery technologies arise the battery will always be the weak part. Perhaps that super fast charging new Toshiba battery might find it's way into phones soon. At least charging it will be super fast :)

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[Desire General] -A-P-M-:
Well, I had same problems for a first two days. Phone was perfect, only screen wasn't visible in the sun, and also battery was empty in 5 - 6 hours. But then I played a little with settings and installed a Brightness Profiles application for a screen. Now when Im inside I have 15% Brightness and when Im outside I get 80% brightness with one click. Now screen is very well seen outside, inside it saves a lot of battery and now battery (with additional settings + task manager) lasts 1.5 days with a lot of usage or 2 days with normal usage. I had a lot of phones, but this one is perfect IMO.
[Desire General] flux:
btw I've just found in the device spec

Automatische Reduzierung der Klingeltonlautstärke, sobald das Handy in die Hand genommen wird

Because of this beautiful feature they got their treasure back. They have removed useful features from n1 (like trackball or active noise cancellation) and put useless ones into the desire. Way to go htc, way to go.
[Desire General] stingerpl:
Why should anyone care?
[Desire General] flux:
another important thing. They also managed to remove charging stripes so it is only possible to charge it with an usb cable. Now think how long will last the miniusb connector if you connect/disconnect cable once per day.
[Desire General] ohyeahar:
Hehe, let's not get mean here....

Here's what I don't get though: Why did you buy the Desire in the first place?

Certainly, you've read about the battery life. It's mentioned in every review.

And certainly, you knew about the charging contacts if you've seen pictures of the device.

Regarding the screen in direct sunlight, I don't get this argument. My last device that had decent sunlight legibility was my Compaq iPaq over 10 years ago when the screens were not backlit. I think the light came from the borders of the screen. Is there a single device available right now that provides comfortable outdoors viewing experience over long period of time?

It's almost like buying the Desire and then complaining that it doesn't have a hardware keyboard...
[Desire General] choccy31:
I read books on my Desire and I have a black screen with white text, not an issue for me. Should have got a decent app. Also re brightness, try turning the levels up if you are in a situation where you cant see the screen.

Battery gets better over a period of weeks, but like any device, if you use it smartly then the issue is minimised.

Also re the first comment......?

I think your post suggests you are not ready for a big boys toy and should invest in a pretend phone that flips up and makes sounds when you press the button so you can look cool to all your 7 year old friends at school. You will be pleased to know that you won't even have to splash out hundreds of pounds or be tied into a long contract with this option as the 99p shop often has a supply, if however 99p is too much, i'm sure you can sneak one into your pocket.

Oh and as a bonus, the screen will not be affected by sunlight! Awsome!

Also, if you would like lot's of unlimited free calls between you and your friends, open up your fridge, consume two yougharts and then attach some string to both ends of the cups and there you go! Free calls!

Now run back to the sandpit and leave the grown ups to have a mature discussion.

Good boy.
[Desire General] rdy2go:
If I stop my Exchange sync in business hours (every 15 minutes) then I'll lost power after 15 hours (7:00-22:00) which is acceptable and similar to your experience (I charge every night).

But with my Exchange sync ON (I need it!) it dies very quickly.

Omnia II with push exchange tend to loose about 40% of charge during business day (push email vs. 15 minutes checks). It was approximately 4-5 times better.

Desire is sooooooooo much better device/OS/software combination that I'd never like to go back, the only drawback is this battery draining.

No, I don't sync Flickr, No, my battery is not super-new (3 weeks already), 'Always on' is disabled
[Desire General] pergolesi:
Re:Choccy 31's post

This made me piss my pants!

Well said!
[Desire General] rdy2go:
I disagree, the first post of this thread may be useful for someone.

I remember skipping some devices myself based on their known issues and I'm glad someone warned others not to waste money and time on them (for instance GPS lags in HTC Touch Pro etc.).
[Desire General] flux:
fan boy detected.

I preordered the desire on 17 February yfi what reviews were available on that day?

And saying that one can get experience just reading about something is also stupid.
[Desire General] mcgon1979:
I don't get how some batteries seem so bad? I'm on 3 days and 14 hours since last plugged in. I did loads of surfing, some calls, about 30 photos, 20 texts, and I'm at 12% left. One thing is true, it took 2 or 3 weeks before battery got so good. Was terrible for first 3 or 4 cycles.
[Desire General] flux:
ah right. It'll get better and better in time. After year you won't need to recharge it at all.
[Desire General] Mokurex:
Damn 3 days??? I do a lot of surfing also and I have to charge it every single night.
[Desire General] flux:
I'm talking about real problems so ppl could use this info to make a decision. What are you talking about? How others could use the info you left here? Better keep it in your pants big boy
[Desire General] ohyeahar:
First of all, there's no need for insults and name calling.

Since you offered the challenge, I accept.

I preordered in March from Clove. And I was part of the 1st batch of release. So I'm assuming your order was too. Which means, you had until April 9th to cancel your order.

You want the list of reviews that came out before April 9th? Just look at this stickied thread.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=652893

The first 19 reviews were published before April 9th. I just clicked through the first 9 of them. All of them mentioned battery life issues. Some also touched on sunlight legibility. Most provided high resolution pictures.

Researching to learn about a device before buying is not stupid.
[Desire General] flux:
Just wait. It'll definitely improve with time.

And screen will also do better in the sun.

And the trackball will raise!

You just have to belief!

Have fun ladies
[Desire General] zonkkk:
Here's what I think:

You really had the volume rocker problem which seems to me that it always acts like "-" is being pressed all the time. I understand that you need to exchange this under warranty, but instead of getting a new one, you asked for your money back because you were short of money... all the other are just reasons to justify yourself...

My battery life is awful compared to a nokia 5110... (can you remember that one? 1 week of usage without a charge!!!!)

I can bearly get through the day with my Desire, but I unplug it at 6:30 every day and I surf the internet about 2.5 hours everyday, I play Robo Defense about half an hour, I write about 10 texts, 4-5 min calls, take a few pictures, use the Engadged news app & BBC news for 30 mins, use Dictionary.com app for maybe 15 mins, I have my GMAIL updates always on, and use it about 30 mins maybe to show off to my mates (Maps, streetview, games, etc...) Bluetooth ON for 1 hour (when driving to work/home)

Screen brightness on Auto setting (I don't listen to the radio, don't listen to music, don't watch videos on youtube).

At 8 o'clock in the night the battery is down to 5%... I'd love it to be 50% but it's not... I think the battery life is decent for the level of usage I am subjecting it to though.
[Desire General] ohyeahar:
This reminds me of something. Perhaps the OP's battery life was so miserable because of this volume rocker problem. Certainly not inconceivable for battery life to take a significant hit if the device keeps registering phantom button presses. May prevent the device from entering standby properly...
[Desire General] foxmeister:
This thread is descending into sarcasm, so it's really of little value now, but just to touch on these "points".

1. Smartphone battery life has always sucked - my Desires battery life is no worse than either my G1s or my Heros, but all relaly need charging every day. With my Desire I can probably squeeze 2 working days usage out of it max (say 8am day 1 to 8pm the following day) without charging, though generally I would charge overnight anyway.

2. OLED screens are well known to have poor performance in direct sunlight. This is not something new, nor specific to the Desire. I was actually quite surprised when I got my Desire that it wasn't as bad as I though it would be.

3. Given the Desire was sold without a trackball, this is rather a ridiculous comment. Personally, I find the optical trackpad works very well, though I must admit I do miss the flashing notifications that I used to get on my Hero's trackball.

Regards,

Dave
[Desire General] rdy2go:
In other words you confirmed my experience - it's very similar, my device dies after 8 to 12 hours after charge, it's like half of the life I expect - I expect full 16 hours which would mean twice as big battery :((
[Desire General] RaptorRVL:
Not sure why you end up so hostile towards others so suddenly.

Do I understand correctly you want to listen to last.fm a lot during the day? And then you complain about the battery being empty so fast?

Really, if you are listening to internet radio a lot, it's no big surprise the battery is dead so fast! There is no portable device in the world as we speak that allows you to listen to internet radio all day long on one battery charge. No smartphone nor laptop.

Sunlight: I never had a device that was readable in direct sunlight. Too much reflection. This is not just a Desire problem. The day they used those hard shiney surface screens was the day you cannot read stuff in direct sunlight anymore unless you use an anti-glare screen protector.

Trackball: Personally I'm glad they removed the trackball. The Hero one was quite buggy at times. And the optical pad works much better for me.

Noise cancelling mic: About the noise cancelling, lots of reviews say the quality is very good. Even better than the N1 or at least just as good. Again, for me personally no big deal -at all-.

Charging stripes: And removing the charging stripes, well. I don't see any problem there. I know other people who have the micro usb connecter for a long time and are using a cradle, car charger and other stuff a lot (not desire, different device). But no problems at all with the micro-usb connector. Never had any problems with the mini-usb connector as well. Don't see why it would suddenly be a problem now.

It feels quite solid, think it works great on my desktop cradle as well.

It seems to me that you are a bit dissapointed with your device. But it also seems you want too much of it. And it is true, things about amoled in sunlight and battery life of the Desire is something you could have read beforehand. Battery life is a problem with every new device out there. And amoled is known to be less readable in direct sunlight.

Those are not Desire specific things at all.

Again, it's a shame to see you don't like the device. But that's cool. You just have to wait until something else comes around the corner that can satisfy your demands. Super amoled perhaps with some new battery technology.

It seems you like the N1 better, why don't you get that one? Won't increase battery life though :D Although without Sense and perhaps the coming 2.2 update it might be better than the Desire. Although in the spec the Desire should have longer standby and longer talk time.
[Desire General] RaptorRVL:
What do you do with your device? Either you are a very heavy user, or something is not right. e.g. something trying to update all day long and using the internet a lot.

I get two days out of my battery, 30% left after a heavy usage day:

I have data connection always on. Update weather every 3 hours, update twitter every hour. And I get push mails constantly (or well, about 20-30 a day on minimum average). And my calendar changes quite frequently as well.

Then I do some internetting now and then, around 1-2 hours a day. Either with or without wifi.

What is it that you do so differently than me? Have nonstop friendstream updates? Wifi on all day, internet more hours or listening to internet radio? Or play mp3's all day long?

I've read on multiple occasions that some software can have a devastating effect on battery life. So it could be a simple service you installed that ruins your battery life.

E.g. I downloaded some tv-guide application, and it was set to constantly update by default. The idiots! Those are the kind of apps that can ruin your device experience -a lot-.
[Desire General] zonkkk:
Yes but bear in mind that BatteryTime (Lite) shows only about 5h of internet browsing left when the battery is full...

So I guess we'll have to live with that... I was expecting a bit more to be honest, but none of the other smartphones are any better.
[Desire General] speedking34:
Seems like google didn't wait for you to pitch them the idea mate:

gizmodo [.] com/5537930/android-22-aka-froyo-will-support-usb-tethering-and-create-wi+fi-hotspots

PS. Note the brackets around the "dot"com, i'm a new user so cant post links (stupid way of preventing spam to be honest)
[Desire General] mcgon1979:
There were a lot of genuine replies to the OP Flux which were greeted with bitterness, sarcasm, and hostility. tut tut. Flux, I think the phone is the least of your problems. Nothing worse than posting an opinion about something only to rebuff all responses with sarcasm and bitterness. Just switch back to your old phone you were happier with. Problem solved. As for your opinion that your "helping others to make an informed choice"; I disagree. You're just here to be bitter and make pejorative remarks about the Desire. ZZZzzz
[Desire General] hilaireg:
Sufficient amount of opinions posted regardings pro's/con's for other potential HTC Desire users to make an informed decision.

Thread closed.
[Click Themes and Apps] Deni_NS:
Is there any program for downloading from internet??? any suggestion or does it exist??

i think like, downloading from web such as from websites where i find music or where i can download programs....
[Click Themes and Apps] TheSSJ:
Look for Crutch lite or DownDroid (with DownDroid you can even use your Rapidshare premium account :) )
[Click Themes and Apps] Deni_NS:
Thanks, i'll try :)

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[HTC Vox] pierdolsie:
hello

first sorry for my bad english im from Poland

i have problem whif me spv e650 soft death.

he stoping loading windows mobail on 1% .

i can find orginal soft orange pl for my phone and i cand remove cid on windows level and may qestion i can remov cid on bootloader level?

pls help me
[HTC Vox] flyboyovyick:
So you e650 wont load windows mobile at all?
[HTC Vox] pierdolsie:
i wont reinstal rom on my phone because windows on start stoping load on 1% and i cant reinstal rom because i cant remove cidlock because activsync not conetting with phone. and i quest u : I can remove cidlock on bootloader level?
[HTC Vox] killerps:
probowales hardreset systemu? to cos jakby sie WM reinstalowal na fonie
[HTC Vox] gutek85:
If nothink helps try flash this ROM. Its original British Orange ROM:

RUU_Vox_ORANGE_UK_1.35.61.1_4.1.13.60_03.18.90_Ship.exe
[HD2 General] erosennin:
Is there a way to uninstall this latest update without doing a hard reset?

Ever since I installed this update, I'm having problems with sending SMS. When I write the message and hit send the phone freezes for a few sec and it doesn't show if the message has been sent or not.

What I mean, usually when you hit send, your message comes below the last message. In this case, it doesn't, even though the message would have been sent.

Any ideas?
[Droid Eris Android Development] andrew8806:
Any roms that aren't running with the Navigator but instead just using it through the maps. (Vanilla roms, Legend roms, etc.)

This doesn't use SenseUI so you should be able to incorporate it with any rom. So, if you are a dev please feel free to put it into your rom :p

I used root explorer for this so if anyone knows the adb commands please feel free to post them. (im too lazy)

chmod 766 HtcNaviPanel.apk (you can try without chmod to see if it works, it may)

copy and paste into /system/app

***remember to have the latest maps installed***

you can also voice search, "Navigate to (Address of Location)" Not sure if that works without HtcNaviPanel.apk or not but the app will give u your most recent destinations
[Droid Eris Android Development] hoban_eris:
sweet. thanks!
[Droid Eris Android Development] kenilworth:
I needed to get the HtcNaviPanel-signed.apk for it to load. It is under the Desire forum themes and apps, under HtcNavipanel.
[Droid Eris Android Development] hoban_eris:
crash report

FYI:

W/PackageManager( 87): Exception reading apk: /system/app/HtcNaviPanel.apk

W/PackageManager( 87): java.io.IOException: /system/app/HtcNaviPanel.apk

W/PackageManager( 87):	at dalvik.system.DexFile.isDexOptNeeded(Native Method)

W/PackageManager( 87):	at com.android.server.PackageManagerService.performDexOptLI(PackageManagerService.java:2153)

W/PackageManager( 87):	at com.android.server.PackageManagerService.scanPackageLI(PackageManagerService.java:2531)

W/PackageManager( 87):	at com.android.server.PackageManagerService.scanPackageLI(PackageManagerService.java:2087)

W/PackageManager( 87):	at com.android.server.PackageManagerService.scanDirLI(PackageManagerService.java:1983)

W/PackageManager( 87):	at com.android.server.PackageManagerService.<init>(PackageManagerService.java:584)

W/PackageManager( 87):	at com.android.server.PackageManagerService.main(PackageManagerService.java:335)

W/PackageManager( 87):	at com.android.server.ServerThread.run(SystemServer.java:133)
[Droid Eris Android Development] andrew8806:
Im not sure if this makes a difference... but i didn't think it would but try chmod 777 (in which I originally did but wouldnt think it'd matter) I also copied and pasted the .odex here

Please let me know if this works you all or not...

If it that doesn't work... below is linked to the HtcNaviPanel mod for the desire... I have tried both and they have the same outcome as above.
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] im_iceman:
Apologies if there is already a thread on this but couldn't find one using the mobile app.

Looking for a decent free twitter app.

What would you recommend?

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[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] Ny88:
Try Seesmic. It should be easy to find in

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[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] im_iceman:
Thanks. Its great. Much better than the first one i downloaded.

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[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] sidneylopsides:
I've tried a few and my favourite is Twicca.

Night clean looking app, has a widget, does notifications (now you can choose the LED colour :D) and can be set to default for twitter links, like when you click on a twitter update in timescape.
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] arcticreaver:
twicca is pretty sweet. i think i'm going to be using this for now on.
[EVO 4G General] dfitzpatrick:
Just announced from the CEO

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[EVO 4G General] VoXHTC:
I'm going with the Evo instead. :P
[Android Apps and Games] rundmcarlson:
This may be a totally noob question but how can I make an app from a webpage? If I create an html page with a bunch of links to other pages and soundclips, how hard is it to turn that into an app. I have no experience creating android apps and I don't know the android code either. Can someone let me know if there is an easy way to create an app from the web page with the type of skills I have. (Very basic)

I do know html so theres no problem in the creation of the page. My only question is in the creation of the app. Thank you in advance for any help.
[Android Apps and Games] rundmcarlson:
Can anyone help?
[Android Apps and Games] jkhouw1:
why bother? why not just give them the link to your webpage?

also - given the limited space of a typical android device, a full web page wouldn't translate well to an app.

to answer your original question, it is very easy to create an app that is just a pile html links and sounds.
[Android Apps and Games] rundmcarlson:
thank you very much
[HD2 General] HyperNode:
Sorry I am new to the whole Phone based world as last phone I had was a Moto Razor :P as a *nix dev I like things compiled in simple tree. So I was wondering is there a place where I can view the top cooked ROMs with its pro/con's comparing it to others? Searching is pointless as I have no idea what it means and I see so many same posts.

ATM I am using the TmoHD2 with standard ROM. Its tweaked to the max but I hit the limitation of it as most things I want to remove is stored in ROM and can't delete it. So looking for a clean ROM if anyone have suggestion as I am sure many have tried other ROMs please name few for example like linux distro, thanks.
[HD2 General] Wil Badger:
Your really not going to find anything like that. You can find plenty of threads where somebody asks for " what is the best ROM " or something along those lines and you will find that they are all filled with the same type of post. Everybody has a different idea as to what is the best ROM o the cleanest ROM.

Your best bet would be to start reading learning the flash process and start flashing till you find what you like. Or you could start reading on how to cook a ROM and make your own using somebodies kitchen.
[HD2 General] HyperNode:
For now I am still a virgin in the Phone world :P it won't take me long before I jump in this bandwagon if I have the time that is, ATM I am busy with our own CVS only reason I got the HD2 is to view source code for our current project as it would be accessible from any where. Also my own P2P client has me pined down thats another convo for another forum, so ya.

I understand as I seen for myself the mess in Rom Dev thread there is so many I was just hopping few people here has at least tried few and can agree on. I don't have the time to play with HD2 ATM as this is the only WinOS I used let it be WinMO 6.5 :P if it was up to me I would already went on and deployed a linux distro on it but ATM I am not up for that as its a new world for me.
[HD2 General] Demon_man:
i use energy as there loaded with loads of tweaks programs i like and setup nicley, there is Duttys his are pretty stock, ligh and fast, Miri are good, it depends what you want really there all built up for specific reasons, so take ya pic