yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[EVO 4G General] audscott:
I have a Euro HD2 on T-Mo in the states. The phone is great but I admit even the best custom ROMs let me down with freezes and anomalies.

I have not used an android phone or iPhone. WinMo since the T-Mo Shadow (so 2.5 years.....seems longer) and of course blackberry (I mean...who hasn't?) which is a company phone on the Sprint network.

Couple of things: Sprint and T-Mo work equally well with phone and edge signal in my area. Signal quality is not a factor in any area I regularly (or not so) travel.

Here's my question: Is Android at least as appealing to most who have used a phone based on this OS? I am open to just about any changes needed, for example, google instead of outlook for contacts (I use both....prefer google due to portability).

Things like fluidity of the OS, appearance, video and audio quality. Are these comparable to WinMo, from some experiences who've used both?

I don't game, so that's not an issue, although I enjoy custom ROMs (and I contribute). But I don't think finding cooks will be an issue.

And maybe some shortcomings of Android will be overcome by an excellent kitchen and maybe, just maybe Android 2.2 will be in the works.

Anyone care to share, maybe this will help others, such as myself, to make an informed decision on the love Ev(o).
[EVO 4G General] networx2002:
Android to me is way better then windows mobile.
[EVO 4G General] adeyo:
android way better than winmo?

i agree absolutely -it is not even close in terms of speed and stability. I have had a winmo phone for years (htc vogue) and 6 months ago i put android on it -WOW! i will never go back again. Just to be sure i flashed a streamlined, upgraded (winmo 6.5) version back on my phone...again, in terms of speed/stability no contest. As for features...android is light years better -and will most likely stay ahead of the curve. Now android is coming to cars, microwaves, tv's and more. ...will be nice to have your android apps (widgets) on the screen of you tv if you please. Winmo simply won't be able to compete w/ the android!! ...btw, i also recently purchased an htc hd2 from T-mobile (returned it. thought maybe i couldn't wait for an android version and figured it would be ported anyway...just wasn't worth the return to winmo)
[EVO 4G General] mrono:
Keep in mind that I don't have an official android phone, the vogue was made 3 years ago and officially stopped at WM6.1, android is not ment to be on this phone but still runs beautifully.

I've been using the HTC vogue on sprint for a year, I had it running with windows mobile for the first 8 months, 3 of which were stock rom (i didn't know better), 5 were NFSFANS 6.5 build (a very good build), and lately the lovely people managed to put android on it, even with NAND.

When the G1 first came out, it looked cool until I tried it. 10 minutes with that device and I was floored, the speed, smoothness, useability, flair of the android operating system just blew me away. The second I put android on my vogue, I was hooked.

I personally think that android is way better then winmo, sure there's some things that windows mobile can do that android isn't able to do yet. Here's a handful of tasks and how each system handles them:

WM = windows mobile 6.5

Music Formats

WM = due to how long WM has been around in general, there's a million programs that can handle anything you throw at it, from aac to mp3

Android = supports aac, midi, mp3, wave, ogg natively. I don't know about 3rd party apps

Video Formats

WM = with the player TCPMP and the codecs you can play just about anything

Android = only supports H.263, H.264, MPEG-4 natively, to my knowledge no app is out yet to support more :(

Messaging

WM = wm's threaded text messaging is nice, but it seems so clunky. It was slow and annoying, soon as i got over 100 messages it would lag extensively while opening and closing the threads

Android = I haven't seen any problem with the messaging app, even with 1500+ messages

Email

WM = I had some push email with a sprint service but it was buggy and didn't really work

Android = gmail works beautifully, I haven't tried another email yet

Overall use

WM = seems clunky, IMO because it was built piece by piece, never really upgrading just tacking on more stuff and glitter

Android = since it was built from scratch it's much faster and cleaner

To me, android wins, if I had to go back to windows mobile it would be at gun point.
[EVO 4G General] audscott:
WOW!! Amazing responses. Thanks so much - I'm on board and I'll get the little woman (looks over shoulder) a new droid too.
[EVO 4G General] superlinkx:
I haven't used a Windows Mobile phone since the T-Mobile MDA, and even then, it was my dad's. Here's what I know:

Android Browser: Based on Webkit and in 2.1 supports HTML5 and other new standards. Compared to WinMo, which runs a pathetic version of IE. Not dogging on it, as it was one of the first mobile browsers capable of desktop sites, but the newer tech allows for a lot of web based apps and smoother browsing.

Android Market: Second largest app market for a smartphone. Lots of great apps and widgets, that easily rival iPhone apps. They are also easy to code and it doesn't cost much either.

Android has a much nicer UI. It uses homescreens with widgets, wallpapers and shortcuts. There is an app drawer to access all the apps with one swipe.

Android is just as customizable as WinMo, probably more since its open source. Easily make deep level changes, or just change wallpapers. Awesome devs working on stuff too.

Android isn't as good at media as some phones. From what I remember of WinMo, its not exactly a thrilling experience either. Nevertheless, if you want good media, Zune or even iPods are better than phones, especially since they have their own batteries and smartphones don't exactly last all that long.

Basically, I recommend Android over anything. The Google integration is awesome of course, and allows for some excellent base services that keep in sync with the cloud. There is still some fine tuning, but same can be said of WinMo. 2.2 should be out soon and it is 4.5 times as fast as 2.1, so major speed boost.

If you are looking at a specific phone, HTC Evo, Nexus One, and Droid Incredible are your best options. All feature fast processors (snapdragon) and plenty of Rom/Ram. Should see apps on sd cards in a near future release. Evo is probably the very best, since it includes everything you could possibly fit in a phone and still keep it in a pocket.

Good luck with your decision.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] braveally:
Anyone else using this cab for their TP2? Do you guys recommend it, it makes many of the changes I want anyway. Let me know your feelings, history stability etc.

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=88640
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Labarum:
I think this would be great with the imagio TP2 cab... it would allow you to trim the fat of the stock rom and put sense 2.5 on a stock rom...

Only thing is I think the Imagio 2.5 cab died after they got their unlocker... It does work on the TP2 and "great for those afraid to flash thier phones...
[Dash 3G, Snap General] BAleR:
Hey everybody, I've had this Snap from US Cellular for a few months now. Searched and searched. Marketplace doesn't have much of a selection. Is this phone just not compatible with many apps? or am I just missing something? It has WM 6.1, Tech said that it USC will be adding updates to WM 6.5 on their website, but so far no luck with that. Does anyone know of a custom ROM I could use on my phone?
[Dash 3G, Snap General] orb3000:
Where??:eek:

Of course here at XDA!!!:cool:
[Dash 3G, Snap General] BAleR:
Well i've looked everywhere and no one will help me find one that will work on my phone. thanks for the help
[Dash 3G, Snap General] Xman1971:
apps for windows standard

I've got the Ozone, so we are in the same boat app wise. You are right re: apps...Most everything out there (even on XDA as far as I can see) is touchscreen, so you have to dig to get standard apps.

Some that I like:

- Agenda One (do not get SBSH calendar...there is a bug in it which keeps it from working on standard 6.5)...Great calendar and PIM

- the AP Mobile app

- Evernote

- Facebook

- Google Maps

- Netflix (you can get this on the Win App website)

- Opera Mobile or the Opera Mini beta for WinMobile (browsers)

- Skyfire (browser)

- Pocket Bible

- Pocket Quicken

- Tipster (a tip calculator)

- Wunderradio (great program that lets you stream terrestrial radio stations that have an online presence over your snap...LOVE IT)

- WMWifirouter - combined with the Internet Connection Sharing program you can find here on XDA turns your phone into a walking hotspot. Pretty cool.

- Office Mobile 2010 is downloadable now from the Win App website
[Dash 3G, Snap General] Jalom:
You may want to have a look at this French website :

http://www.pocketpcfreeware.com/

or any freeware download site, sucha as :

http://handheld.softpedia.com/deviceSoftware/5
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] powersupplyzzzz:
Good day,

This is just a warning to all Touch pro 2 owners. I bought my unit August last year. Shipped it back to HTC because the touch screen had stopped responding. The phone booted up fine but you couldnt use the touch screen.

Im from the Caribbean so I had to pay for the shipping back to the states.

This is the email I got for HTC :

Dear Valued Customer,

This is documentation to provide suggested action repairs and quotation for

each service rendered.

Diagnosis:

System hanging, device has been hacked.

Suggested Repair:

Replace Main Board

Total Repair Price:

With shipping $359.64

---------------------------------------------

I paid $700 bucks for the phone off amazon.

I installed the bootloader and an Original windows mobile European Rom 6.5 months ago.

Here are my questions :

If the motherboard is bad or "hacked" why did the system work perfectly for 6 months.

Obviously HTC thinks I am an *** to shell out $360. Im going to tell them go to hell. This WAS my first ever HTC phone. I had respect for the company. But not the way they treat their customers. Im just going to tell them keep the phone because I dont want a paperwieght. This is alot of BS. Its obviously a hardware problem and they are trying to blame it on me.

So Im out $700 and no phone. ---- HTC they have lost a customer for life.

Im sure someone here will have a problem with their phone. But just be warned. HTC thinks we are all chumps. Im going to get a droid or something when I save up enough money.

I hope no one has to live through this nightmare like I had.

Thanks for nothing HTC. ---

* EDITED FOR LANGUAGE (NRGZ28) *
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] XERO_Racer:
ok first of all, dont curse, its just gonna make you look childish,

where im at HTC doesnt really have bad customer service, you just gotta make sure you talked to the right guy from HTC, but since your touch screen doesnt work, its just an LCD problem something to do with the digitizer, not soo sure, but did you even try a hard reset or flashed a different ROM?

and what you installed a bootloader :confused:

you didnt jtag it have you?

but im sure u mean to say HardSPL, but was it the original HardSPL? that couldve triggered them to say its been hacked if it wasnt the stock SPL
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] OminousPrime:
I bet for that price you could pay someone to do the work locally.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jhernand1102:
Well you really can't blame HTC for your mistake..The mistake of not restoring for factory ROM and SPL prior to sending it back. There are instructions for doing that just for this situation when you need to make a warranty exchange..Flashing a custom SPL & ROM will void any warranty on the phone..If its only the touch screen that is bad you can pick one up off ebay and do the repairs yourself...google and you will find detailed instructions...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ATLDON:
Sounds like you need a new digitizer........Ebay has them for around $30 (U.S.)

Purchase a small Torx driver set, and replace it......
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] powersupplyzzzz:
I meant to say Hard SPL

Yup I meant to say Hard SPL.

This is just wrong the way they say it was the mainboard. Im sure it has something to do with the touch screen.

It is sad they had to resort to this. I mean I dont think Im THAT stupid. Hard Spl or not I think they should just fix it. Its not software related. The phone works perfectly. Just no touch input.

With that kind of money I could get another TP 2 off ebay. So its just wrong. Its a sham to get people to shell out 360 bucks for nothing.

This has thought me a very important lesson. Dont let these companies push you around.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] XERO_Racer:
try to attempt at asking it back without the repairs? i havent seen no one do it before, but its worth a try, im pretty sure they'll give it back cuz they "claim" you cant fix it and will be stuck with it, but in reality u have digitizers sitting around ebay

worth a shot mate

but then yet again, how much is shipping? :x
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] xmckinzie:
Clearly stated in the Hard-SPL thread:

Simply downgrading to the stock SPL could have avoided this.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] powersupplyzzzz:
Yes downgrading could have avoided this but they lied !!

What bothers me the most is that they lied about the diagnostic. Its just very misleading and to me its extortion. How could the mainboard be bad? Or is it they simply think that people with smartphones dont know how they work. I will update you on the situation as time progresses. One thing I know is im not paying that "fee" for having it repaired. Shipping might cost me $70. So im already out alot.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] eugenile:
sounds like a digitizer as already mentioned. very cheap.

i bought my phone off ebay. and seller said it was RAN OVER lol. still works great despite the scratches, chips,e tc and battery looks like it went to hell and back.. cells almost exposed in some areas :eek:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mrj:
They probably have a policy where if the phone has been hardSPL'd (hacked) they simply replace the mobo. I can understand they wouldnt wont to train their staffs in every known hack etc they would want the phones to be in original condition.

Just tell them to post it back (you will have to pay the postage) then either set it back to standard and then try to get it fixed again or best option as others have said, buy a digitizer off eGay and fix it yourself or get a local boffin to fix it for you.

You need to accept the fact that if you hack your phone you will not be treated as a 'normal' customer. You get a lot of benefits from hard SPL but 'factory' HTC service wont be one of them.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] RedWolf023:
First off, you are truly stupid for even paying $700 for a cell phone off amazon. That is outrageous and you know it. Besides, most carriers sell these for $150 - $200 with a new 2 year contract. Second, I agree with the others. If you would have called and had them warranty exchange it, you wouldn't be in this situation. hTC is a great phone manufacturer and their phones are top quality (price reflects). You have had one issue with the company because of something you did and/or failed to do with ONE of their phones. Don't go blaming them for your mistakes. Sorry if anyone is upset at this, i just can't tolerate someone coming on here and bashing the manufacturer that makes our phones
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] NRGZ28:
I can only foresee this thread degenerating more than it already has so I just closed it. ROM development is the wrong forum to post this anyway. As to the original OP... it comes down to the fact that you didn't put the stock SPL back on before you sent it to them. It seems logical they would use that as an excuse to get out of repairing your device for free. HTC or not, they exist to make money.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ahmadkaram:
Dear Gentelmen,

Please, if someone have the Arabic ROM for HD2 came from UK. Or software to support Arabic writing and software.

My ROM ver. 1.66.405.2 (76641) WWE SPL. 1.42 HSPL

Thanks.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mh7:
Dear ahmed

why u don't go for arabizer program

this mobidiv Arabizer 454

else from mobidiv

prayer time

Qoraan kareem

Hijry date

Dictionary

i prefer to instal all program except arabizer first on storag card

ending with arabizer from the first link on main memory without doing any restart till ending

u can Pm me if u faced any problem with HTC msg system in arabic

if u like an arabic rom

u need to unlock ur Hspl

then u be able to install any rom u can

best regards
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ahmadkaram:
Dear mh7,

Thanks for your help, the arabizer is working but the Quran program is not! Please help to make it work, the 1st screan appear then disappear and the program closed.

- Please if you can recommend a good ROM for me, I trust your choice.

Dest Regards.

Ahmad Karam,
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ahmadkaram:
By the way, I already try to flash the Arabic ROM but error message appear with region error. I already have HSPL 1.66.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] asifghufran:
Arabic

You can use the attached files all are working perfect for me. for ROM recommendation I am using Energy Rom you can check from my signature.

I have not used the attached Quran, I am using from this site which is perfect having recitation, tafseer and translation in many languages.

http://pocketpc.qurancomplex.gov.sa/
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] asifghufran:
Sorry forget the attached. this is the Arabizer
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] asifghufran:
This file is for manila 2.5
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mta77:
MH7, asifghufran:

many thanks for you, finaly my HD2 is arabized.

thanks again...:rolleyes:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] abudeeema:
Here is the full package ---> here

U can try it on this ROM here

will work perfectly ;)​
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ahmadkaram:
Many thanks for all of you, finaly my HD2 is arabized. All programs are working fine.

Gazakom Allaho Khairan.

But it's not working with the Energy.Leo.23569.Sense2.5.GTX.Themed.May.13 ROM, if someone has a solution?! I like this ROM it's give me big desktop with 3 icons levels.

Best Regards.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ahmadkaram:
The Arabic font is not working when I try to creat SMS, it appear "?????" is there is any fix for that for Energy ROM.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] asifghufran:
There is a fix for that in this forum. look at post 3

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=682963
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] asifghufran:
Fix are posted in post 3 in the below thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=682963
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ahmadkaram:
I'm tryig now what I found in this Thread.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6501168&postcount=3

Best Regards.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Shin Akimura:
Ola,

Prezados,comprei a dois dias um HTC Fuze(At&t),na realidade aparece ecrito nas especificacoes HTC P4600,a ROM encontrada nele e a 1.95.502.5 WWE,no mesmo dia em que o peguei coloquei o HARD-SPL 1.90 Olinex utilizando o tutorial aqui mesmo do forum,o mesmo aparece escrito na tela RGB,olhando assim parece que tenho algum conhecimento mais acreditem foi na mais pura sorte!LOL

Agora aqui vai a questao,gostaria de coloca-lo em portugues e de preferencia que fosse windows 6.5,e uma duvida que nao me sai da cabeca,se eu passar para windows 6.5 eu perco o touchFlo?

Se possivel um tutorial explicando como faz a troca da ROM para windows 6.5 PT eu agradeceria muito.

OBS:Mil desculpas pelo google tradutor,meu ingles e realmente horrivel!

__________________________________________________ _______________

Hello,

Dear, I bought two days a HTC Fuze (AT & T), actually appears in the specifications écrit HTC P4600, ROM 1.95.502.5 WWE and found him on the same day that got him put the HARD-SPL 1.90 Olinex using the tutorial here same forum, it appears written on the RGB screen, looking so it seems I have some knowledge in most believe it was pure luck! LOL

Now here's the question, I would put it in Portuguese and preferably it was windows 6.5, and no one doubts that leave my head, if I move to Windows 6.5 TouchFlo I lose?

If possible make a tutorial explaining how to exchange the ROM for Windows 6.5 PT I would greatly appreciate it.

PS: Many apologies for the google translator, my English is really terrible!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Shin Akimura:
UP!

Come on people some help!?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] XERO_Racer:
you will not lose the touchflo interface but since about 99% of the ROMs on this section are preloaded with 6.5, youre chances of having TouchFLO 3D are very low, they now have HTC Sense 2.1 or Sense 2.5(like on HD2)

i recommend watching my video of how to flash a ROM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS5JrQi7MhE

be sure to have HARD SPL!
[HD2 General] bangsters:
Hi.

So far loving my HD2. However, I need some apps to be able to use this phone for work as well as personal.

Any suggestions for the following?

1. ssh client

2. app to transfer dvd to HD2

3. openvpn

4. syncML syncing of contacts and calendar

5. turn by turn gps. i tried garmin XT but it looks like it's crashing the HD2.

6. voip or sipphone client.

also, any apps that are useful or highly recommended?

Thanks
[HD2 General] rlee008:
Turn by Turn navigation : http://www.bing.com/community/blogs...05/10/updated-bing-app-for-windows-phone.aspx

it works well for me.. still in its beta stage but looks very promising
[HD2 General] UncleBeer:
Only works in the US. Many XDA folk live elsewhere, or would like to use GPS nav elsewhere.
[HD2 General] troed:
Try this one:

http://omm.mine.nu/

Tested it for 3 weeks now, works without flaw (excapt You have to cahnge the xml-file where to download the maps). Maps can be downloaded in bulk worldwide. Got maps before leaving my Cell-area from Egypt, Lebanon and so on.............

To fill Your SD Card with maps worldwide just edit the maps.xml-file with an xml-editor (xml notepad 2007 free from MS) to get maps-cache to SD (original file sends them to RAM and programs own edit function gives an error).
[HD2 General] xwaiz:
1. ssh client -- Pocket Putty

2. app to transfer dvd to HD2 -- SPB Mobile DVD

4. syncML syncing of contacts and calendar -- Google Sync for mobile
[HD2 General] gerhardvr:
Garmin XT

I can confirm that Garmin XT works great on the Leo. I've been using it since day one I've had the phone (3 months), whitout any problems at all. As a matter of fact, it is now a pleasure to use. On the Tytn II it took ages to start up, On the Leo it's a snap and ver responsive.

Never had it crash my phone (I'm running the standard ROM it came with).

Regards

Gerhard
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] mini_robot:
can someone make it so that when you text in HTC messages that the keyboard doesnt disappear after pressing send?

i find it redudant that after sending a text that the keyboard disappears and you have to re click inside the "tap to compose text" box every time u send a text.

just a suggestion and thank you in the future if someone decides to figure it out. ima noob.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] mynullvoid:
this happen to some of the ROM, easiest way is to change the ROM ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] mini_robot:
are you sure cus im using artemis rom and its still doing it
[Dash 3G, Snap General] BAleR:
Why when I check for updates on my phone it gives me an error that says to check my data connection and make sure my date and time are correct? This doesn't make sense because they are correct. Does anybody know? thanks for any help

My Device: HTC SNAP (US Cellular)

WM Version: 6.1

And I have a data plan so I know its not that either.