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[Hero CDMA General] Kcarpenter:
Way to many different phones use our USB connector for them to say "You need to get your own for us to do it"

Not to mention there is one in the box the phone comes in.....

That being said, HTC does use a funny form of Mini USB, maybe they thought a standard one wouldn't work... When I got my first HTC I had to check just to make sure.
[Hero CDMA General] shakuyi:
doesnt best buy sell the samsung moment? what about that phone when do we get our 2.1?
[Hero CDMA General] jared181920:
Is this update strictly for the Sprint version of the Hero? Or will it be for the GSM version as well?
[Hero CDMA General] Sawawa:
It took the Droid over three months to go from 2.0 to 2.1 even though it was the previous flagship Android device (prior to the Nexus One).

This is just a problem with Android in general. It doesn't have anything to do with custom skins.
[Hero CDMA General] laufine:
Htc said that the GSM update will be in June.
[Hero CDMA General] kelmar13:
April - May 15 = early 2Q

May16 - June = late 2Q

Not everyone set their phone up with google contacts... not everyone has apps that are market apps... there are reasons that they do things they way they do it. Typically, it is the consumer that doesn't understand how "their own phones work."
[Hero CDMA General] kelmar13:
Cannot agree with this more! People read what is written and then change it to what they want to hear.
[Hero CDMA General] gostars9:
+1

I own a hero, but my girlfriend has a moment. Any info about it?
[Hero CDMA General] myke66:
nothing yet
[Hero CDMA General] ThatGuyFromSprint:
Very true, the info i received was from an internal memo, not from a press release, the press release still states "Early Q2" (as a tentative release)... the internal memos give specific dates, although the internal memo dates are subject to change (in the case of the moment, not the Hero (at this point)), they're more precise for a more relative date than just "Early Q2".

UPDATED NEWS:

the Date of May 7th was semi-confirmed sprint side today as well.... i don't have a picture for it at this time but the memo said this:

"As long as no major bugs are found the release will be available as soon as Friday, May 7th."

Thanks for the initial heads up Myke.

Also the Moment update has been pushed back due to a major bug found prior to April 30th, they now are saying that they hope to have it ready by next week.

(Updated News posted in this thread as well: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=6389238#post6389238 )
[Hero CDMA General] ThatGuyFromSprint:
duplicate post removed
[Hero CDMA General] myke66:
Awesome, good to hear.
[Hero CDMA General] Cata-Kai:
I really hope this is it. If so the fragmentation number will not be nearly as bad as they are at the moment. Its funny though, because most of my friends who have a Hero aren't even expecting an upgrade so they don't care too much haha.
[Hero CDMA General] hilaireg:
Moved posts to this thread to cut down on duplication of threads regarding this topic.
[Hero CDMA General] kwajr:
moment 2.1

forum.sdx-developers.com/android-2-1-74/?PHPSESSID=olnpaivnmuiic33fsgjtqt0mc3

they have the moment leak sorry cant post url
[Hero CDMA General] FireDog31262:
Origianl message says:

"Although this update is available to customers on the HTC website, you may have customers come into the store requesting assistance in performing the update."

The update is not on the HTC website yet.
[Hero CDMA General] ThatGuyFromSprint:
It won't be until the release is available from Sprint.com/download and retail locations as well
[Hero CDMA General] infamousjax:
So they found a big bug in the Moment 2.1 huh? Maybe they finally are getting around the fixing the CDMA lockups...
[Hero CDMA General] tkirton:
Where did they say that?

And if they don't deliver in 11 days, then what?

As I said before...if this upsets you greatly, go to Sprint an complain about it...if it makes you feel better.
[Hero CDMA General] tkirton:
Not everyone uses gmail to backup their contacts. And, to use market, you have to have a Google account...it doesn't have to be a Gmail account (it does have to be a Google Talk account from what I understand.)
[Hero CDMA General] myke66:
Ahh, they merged the threads. Not sure if that was the best call, as it was information from two completely different sources. Oh well.
[Hero CDMA General] ThatGuyFromSprint:
yeah, 2 different sources, but same aimed for result... grats on getting noticed on engadget!
[Hero CDMA General] zcarman:
From what I heard back in February was that the Moment was to follow the Hero by 2 weeks - depending on the launch of the Hero's update, of course.

I had originally heard mid-April, but obviously that didn't happen, but if the info is on for this, the Moment should be around May 20th.
[Hero CDMA General] nowens0520:
Maybe initially, but from the Sprint memos we've seen it looks like it was supposed to end up coming out on the 30th. Apparently, the day of (even after they began to update the website - note the 30th page date) they found a major bug (according to SprintGuy) and are set back a week or two.
[Hero CDMA General] Avalaunchmods:
well from what i heard. it should be in our genie tom. so if it is i can pull it and hopefully get something for me to work on with no audio issues. idk if i can release it until sprint does though. i love my job lol. :/
[Hero CDMA General] JohnnyBeGood113:
Can someone please post or link to new features after update to 2.1?

Thanks!
[Hero CDMA General] hkr:
Look at the picture: 'Best Buy Employee News'
[Hero CDMA General] nowens0520:
Went totally quiet in here... strange...

Not to stir the pot, but I heard that Sprint is expecting Moment update to drop on the 10th.
[Hero CDMA General] HeroMeng:
The moment release is scheduled for may 10.... the Hero update is scheduled for that week. Don't ask me where I got that from or quote me on that.
[Hero CDMA General] mbell75:
Sorry, not happening but thanks
[Hero CDMA General] nowens0520:
I was actually told Monday the 10th as well.
[Hero CDMA General] Riff76:
Here is an idea people!! Let's not post anything on this subject until someone really gets the update. That way the rest of us can patiently wait the next few days for the rollout.
[Hero CDMA General] raylusk:
On the Sprint Community Forums one of the admins announced that the 2.1 update is no longer scheduled for early 2nd quarter but they are still commuted to the first half of 2010.
[Hero CDMA General] Tipharet:
hahahahahahahahahaha
[Hero CDMA General] DroidDoes2.1:
Body

My birthday is on the 12th of May! Hope its out by then. (doubt it I'm not stupid.) Ahh man should of gone with the droid.
[Hero CDMA General] obelisk79:
I'll switch to the evo after root and source.
[Hero CDMA General] blumerdeluxe:
"Commuted"? Like a prison sentence? :rolleyes:
[Hero CDMA General] wes_517:
I was told by a sprint employee that beyond a shadow of a doubt, it would drop in Late December 09. Then mid January by another sprint employee, then 2 dates in February, then March... then I rooted and put Fresh on my phone as I see all the other fake dates...

Why is it that an important update like this from Sprint seems incredibly late and botched, when the phone hasn't even been out a year?

I understand that there are unforeseen problems that need to be straightened out before a company can put out a release like this, and the mess it would create for Sprint to roll out a bad update, but seriously? 6 months of promises?
[Hero CDMA General] meeekus:
Update from sprint twitter:
[Hero CDMA General] rejectedkid:
hey me too!

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[Hero CDMA General] DroidDoes2.1:
That's cool dude... my parents anniversary is on the same date! only 4 years b4 I was born) I'll be 19.

I'm sure the update will be here within 2 weeks. Where is thatguyfromsprint now? i bet he's hiding I know I would if I were wrong time after time. Probably not his fault though.
[Hero CDMA General] Sawawa:
He's probably not really a Sprint employee, and even if he was it definitely isn't his fault.

It's HTC's fault and Samsung's fault.
[Hero CDMA General] DroidDoes2.1:
Yeah u might b right.
[Hero CDMA General] wadeheisen:
Many thanks to our customers for your continued patience as we work to bring you a positive experience with the 2.1 upgrade.

Ah, I think I see the problem behind the delay now. Sprint is trying to provide a positive experience. Corporate America should refrain from that sort of thing. It hurts the pocketbook.
[Hero CDMA General] troyboytn:
Not his fault at all that the information was incorrect, however, he sure did soak up his 15 minutes of fame for what it was worth and of course, it turned out to be worth nothing. Should be a good lesson learned in life...... not to quote info as fact without being 100% sure.
[Hero CDMA General] chfields:
+1......................
[Hero CDMA General] zidek:
any validity to this? these guys seem to be the only people that have some info as of yesterday

ww.ozcarguide.com/technology/cellphone-pda/2640-sprint-htc-hero-android-2-1
[Hero CDMA General] Chaid:
The download link on that page takes you to RUU_Hero_C_Sprint_2.20.651.1_signed_test.exe

Which F'ed up my phone....
[Hero CDMA General] DroidDoes2.1:
I know Its not his fault (thatguyfromsprint), but the second date he gave us was 3 days away from when he posted the rumor. Unless they found a big glitch since then I don't think this guy is involved. I don't think he actually works Sprint. If I'm wrong sorry, but yeah. my .02$
[Hero CDMA General] eggypadua:
eggy

(thatguyfromsprint)jajajaja where you are? jajaja He need change his nickname.
[Hero CDMA General] smstutler:
From the update pdf on verizon droid eris site, it looks as though their update is only 77megs. Sprint seems to be the MS bloatware version I guess.
[Hero CDMA General] dhero1:
What was fact when the info was received, and what might have changed since then, is certainly not the fault of the receiver ....
[Hero CDMA General] dhero1:
Get it? :rolleyes:
[Hero CDMA General] smw6180:
He probably doesn't want to deal with all the morons giving him a hard time about it. Whether he works for Sprint or not isn't the issue. The guy posted some data. He never claimed it would be the actual release. I'm personally sick of seeing these threads to begin with, but for all the people giving the guy a hard time, chill. His original and subsequent posts never said he KNEW when it was coming out...he was passing along something he saw, and that's all he said about it. So back off the guy.
[Hero CDMA General] ramiss:
I'm sorry, but where did he say this info was a "fact"?

From the OP:

Ok, so the internal memo date is wrong and you guys are blaming the guy who leaked the memo!!?! By this logic you should also be blaming our devs for the bugs in the leaked ROM. It just makes no sense whatsoever.
[Hero CDMA General] DroidDoes2.1:
Bodied myself

I lied to my older sister lol. I told her the update would finally be here on Friday. Now both she and I are disappointed. Blame it on these forums, so called employees, or my stupidity. Take your pick... trust ONLY in Twitter. SCREAM AIM & FIREI lied to my older sister lol. I told her the update would finally be here on Friday. Now both she and I are disappointed. Blame it on; these forums, the Ahh Ahh alcohol, so called employees, or my stupidity. Take your pick... trust ONLY in Twitter. SCREAM AIM & FIRE

Ps: There seems to be some rumors floating around.... They are saying that the May 7th date was a legitimate release date. As it turns out they found a glitch. The next possible date is on the 21st. HAVE I LEARNED NOTHING
[Hero CDMA General] chfields:
Trust NO ONE, until it actually comes out, NO ONE has a clue.
[Hero CDMA General] techguybrad:
FAIL

FAIL

-TechguyBrad
[Hero CDMA General] ThatGuyFromSprint:
After weeding through a bunch of hate posts, and taking a moment to read through a few extra things, thought i may let you all know what's up...

Been working a lot of OT, so i haven't had the chance until today to read through the past 10+ pages...

A glitch was found, and the Ozcar Guide people touched on it a little bit, with the market and live themes... Unfortunately because of the issues, the solutions team is refraining from releasing another date, mostly due to them not being able to hit the last 3 they gave (April 16th, March 26th, and Week of May 1st). There was hope that it would be done by the 15th, but as per the recent Twitter update, that may not be the case (Early Q2 became simply Q2 :( )

I appreciate that people noticed that i'm simply sharing information and not stating it as a fact.

The OTW versus OTA schedule remains the same. The 2.1 update will only be available for OTW either by downloading it from HTC or Sprint, or by going to a Retail Store to have a Rep perform the update for you (I'm fairly certain that people here will do it themselves, or wait for one of the Devs to release a rom based off the official release).

For those of you who blame me for the dates, A: Sorry you feel that way; B: Read a post for what it is, interpreting it any different will cause the delusion you suffer from.

More to come at a later date.
[Hero CDMA General] infamousjax:
What a "coincidence" that all these "glitches" were found that push the release date back almost to coincide at the same time the Evo is supposed to be released. If Sprint were serious about meeting their deadlines, then they would assign more people to this project, or seek assistance from HTC/Samsung. Now, I understand that this is a major software upgrade and they are going to run into clusterfucks every now and then, but there really is no excuse that should push back this highly anticipated and important upgrade back for this many months.
[Hero CDMA General] smw6180:
They're not obligated to release anything more than maintenance releases to fix bugs in prior versions of the code. They could just say, 'No upgrade for the Hero' and be done with it. I believe initially that IS what they said and then changed their minds after the public outcry. All the 'wah wah wah where's my upgrade' crap is getting old. Either use a dev 2.1 ROM, or at least try and exhibit some patience...or upgrade the hardware when something new comes out.

As has been mentioned, it's not Sprint's fault (at least not solely). And no other carrier is even upgrading right now. So it could definitely be worse.
[Hero CDMA General] infamousjax:
They haven't done this either. I own a Moment, and as long as I've had the phone there has been CDMA lockups. 2.1 is my maintenance release release.

You're right though, no reason to ***** about it. It's obvious that Sprint doesn't listen or reach out to their customers.

</RANT>
[Hero CDMA General] PikkonX:
It's true that they're not obligated to release an update, but it's in their very best interest to do so. They could say "No upgrade for the Hero", but they'd just be handing over Android customers to Verizon and T-Mobile. Something Sprint really can't afford to do.
[Hero CDMA General] HeroMeng:
This is completely true. They said they will get it, but I'm getting a little skeptic about it. By now, I think they're waiting for us to resolve the issues so they can remove SU from DamageControl and call it their own.
[Hero CDMA General] afma_afma:
hahahah....who knows...they might end up doing that....

Sent from my HERO200 using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[Hero CDMA General] ThatGuyFromSprint:
The manufacturers (HTC/Samsung in this case) do all the coding for the update and the carrier (Sprint in this case) only tests it for quality purposes, in the event that bugs are found, it's sent back to the manufacturer to fix the bugs before testing recommences. Sprint's deadlines are not necessarily Sprint's, in some cases, it's the manufacturer's suggested release date (May 7th was most recently)

This type of work is time consuming, and if you don't think it is, try to make the RUU yourself, and see how that goes for you.

I see what you did here, and i like your style.
[Hero CDMA General] tkirton:
Mine is the 16th. I still don't think it was a mistake to go with the Hero. The only reason I want it released is to start the process of obtaining the source code. Otherwise, I'll use any of the 2.1 Roms from any of the developers. You know what they put out will be better than anything Sprint will release.
[Hero CDMA General] smw6180:
Mis-post, -please delete
[Hero CDMA General] dhero1:
My understanding is that maintenance / bug fixes IS the primary goal of this update. Also providing the newest available stable software platform at the same time is just a bonus ...
[Hero CDMA General] smw6180:
Yep. but it would be easier for them to just upgrade to say 1.57 then go to 2.1. 2.x is a MASSIVE upgrade, and changes virtually everything about how the hardware is accessed.

My point was that they don't have to go to the 'latest' software. They could fix what's there and be done with it in the current software family. They're choosing to go ahead with the upgrade which is a nightmare considering that every phone is different (in terms of applications and usage) and making it functional on ALL of them bugfree is impossible. So they shoot for 80-90%. Obviously they haven't been able to hit that yet due to issues they've been having at present. It'll be ready when they're ready to release it, and all the complaining, whining, *****ing and threatening to switch carriers that people want to do isn't going to change that.

Either live with the 1.5 series and wait for the official release, or go with a dev rom. But all the complaining about it is ridiculous.

Oh...and it's BECAUSE of all the *****ing about 'Sprint sucks, they missed another release date!' that Sprint does NOT give out release dates. All the rumours and hype that's been happening (99% anyhow) is coming from leaks, not officially from Sprint. So blaming Sprint because some employee has leaked screenshots of a 'release date' that was never supposed to be public in the first place is stupid.
[Hero CDMA General] murdocthc:
I agree! Personally, I enjoy having the dev 2.1 roms and bragging to those that don't have 2.1 yet :)

Plus, the official firmware updates won't have some of the cool things that we have with the dev roms, Ie A2SD (maybe) and theme servers

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[Hero CDMA General] dondadah88:
installing now. :)

thanks

also i wish the hero came with out sense. i have come to accept the fact that this phone isn't the fastest and the less the better. :(
[Hero CDMA General] mjz147:
Thanks for the info OP

You know everyone complains about all these new 2.1 threads, this info seems legitimate, their is a good explanation, and if he is lying we lose 15 seconds of our lives reading it.

Everyone complains about the "clutter" of these 2.1 threads yet no one makes a sticky for 2.1 rumors, before you complain about it, when no one is going to listen, ask an admin for a 2.1 sticky thread..
[Hero CDMA General] mountaindont:
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

thats so ****ing awesome

im killing my battery by quickrebooting over and over lol

do you have one without the music though?????

ohohohohohohoh AAAND I GET IT!

danknee

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

oh yeah...ahem...2.1

this guy seems fairly reliable/confident; ill take his word for it

either way im satisfied with what the 2.1 i have. i dont see what the official update is going to offer that we dont already have. i bet the group of developers are sitting on their pcs CRYING because not ONLY did we have 2.1 up and running before they could even accidently leak a RUU, but because we have LWP's working with rosie; do you feel that? the quake? oh thats just HTC shaking in their boots.
[Hero CDMA General] mountaindont:
yeah over at androidforums they have "THE OFFICIAL 2.1 THREAD" removes alot of clutter

then again, they have their own portal......
[Hero CDMA General] mountaindont:
i could never understand why people dont like sense. i understand sometimes it can be kinda laggy, but when you strip it down its the bomb. sense was made for the widgets; widgets being realtime information displayed right on your "desktop", this alone tops the iphone and the rest of the smartphones out there (who in the HELL wants an entire smartphone with just screens full of SHORTCUTS?!?!) not to mention the social integration. oh, and the full weather animations. that amazes the n00bs everytime.

ohhhhh

ahhhhh

clouds!

on your screen!

ohhhhh

ahhhhh

clouds!

outside!
[Hero CDMA General] Las_Vegas:
I'm much more interested in when they will update the downloadable source,
[Hero CDMA General] Austin3600:
I normally kill everyone who starts a new 2.1 thread, but at least yours had new information unlike the hundred posted before you, Thanks ;)
[Hero CDMA General] mountaindont:
kill?

as in MURDER?

oh man, thats cold...
[Hero CDMA General] dalvarez7:
I was wondering if this thread would pop up today. I also heard those dates today at Sprint. Shoot, one of my fellow techs had it running on his Hero. Its pretty much like the leak from what I saw. It didn't have LWP though, but I think LWP was more the work of the Dev's here at XDA, getting it to run with SenseUI. I feel your pain about releasing any information you may hear. I too work at Sprint and don't want to say to much at risk of loosing my job. There are a lot of glass half full people out there but I appreciate the info, let people take it as they want to.
[Hero CDMA General] Austin3600:
Well, usually I kick baby seals.. but I ran out of em today :(
[Hero CDMA General] dre4402:
so we just gotta keep our eyes peeled or will a message be sent to the phone
[Hero CDMA General] mountaindont:
wow man your pure evil

remind me to hide my kitty when im around you

:p
[Hero CDMA General] dalvarez7:
I was wondering that, so should we put the 1.5 RUU back on to get the update? Or do we just wait for its release and let the Dev's work their magic?
[Hero CDMA General] chfields:
I'll wait for the devs, although I'm not sure how much more sprint will offer that we don't have from the devs now........
[Hero CDMA General] danknee:
You won't need to install 1.56 RUU to install the official 2.1 RUU build, but you may never have root access on your phone again if you install the official 2.1.

This phone without root would be very frustrating for me, no thanks!
[Hero CDMA General] mountaindont:
+1

the fact is, the day the official is released, we'll have a ROM up and running right away. we all know damage will hop on that thing like a kid on a carousel.
[Hero CDMA General] dalvarez7:
Duh, that's right. The update won't be OTA.
[Hero CDMA General] Kcarpenter:
BEST BOOT SCREEN EVAD!! I HAVE REBOOTED MY PHONE 6 TIMES JUST TO WATCH IT!

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[Hero CDMA General] mountaindont:
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

me toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
[Hero CDMA General] asapelectric:
O>>>M>>>G !!!!!! :mad: :D
[Hero CDMA General] raylusk:
The issue as I see it is that Sprint allowed the two phone manufactures to not release maintenance updates and instead incorporate those into 2.1. When they did this, they assumed responsibility to make sure those manufactures put adequate resources toward the project to make it happen quickly. In addition while I think it is very possible that a last minute glitch could be found in either the moment or hero 2.1 release for it to happen to both is very suspicious. No matter how you look at it this is a public relations disaster for Sprint and they cannot afford it.
[Hero CDMA General] myke66:
update at work about the 2.1 update. same story, HTC found bugs, new roll around date is may 27th. not going to bother posting the screenshots this time, but thats the new tentative date.
[Hero CDMA General] DroidDoes2.1:
Does anyone know if Sprint/HTC/Sumsung work on the weekends? You know testing,programming, and what have you.
[Hero CDMA General] matthewman3:
Guess ill just wait to then and see if we get 2.1