yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] zathire:
I used the 'decrypted' x10i firmware located at http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=683793

in Omnius, when you press the flash button, a window will popup asking for 2 files, the first file will be the larger "Android" zip file, and the other will be the "Phone" zip file. took about 5 minutes but it worked :D
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] thefunkaygibbon:
orange have a tendency to count Facebook as over 18 content and block access to it unless you ask them to allow 18+ content.

Not sure why social networking counts as that, but it does.

I don't think a new apk of Timescape will help

Sorry for off topic...
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Vilam:
Do you loose all your installed app ? SDcard content ?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] naveen_reloaded:
correct me if i am are wrong...but

you flashed unsigned firmware ??:eek::eek:
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Vilam:
Decrypted is not unsigned, am I right ?

I hope :angel:
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] naveen_reloaded:
atleast we can now do it for free
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] lqbweb:
if the firmware is encrypted (this means "signed") by a public key, and decrypted by a private key... Then if the firm is said as "decrypted" i suppose it's not signed... :| so, it works? :SSS

Maybe we can try to modify the init sequence to boot into single mode?

Anyone can try the "unlock" option?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] zathire:
the unlock option resets the pattern lock, thats it I think
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] instigator008:
Decrypted firmware is basically "unzipped". It is still signed and the flash will fail if even one bit is altered.

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[XPERIA X10 Android Development] lqbweb:
what pattern lock? :| i mean, that's for the sim lock?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] MarylandCookie:
Is it possible to make a package with the bundled apps replaced with others?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] happyandy93:
i'm going to give er a try flashing my x10i with the decrypted rom. i'll report back here once its done.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] lqbweb:
no if it still signed
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] naveen_reloaded:
that means making signed into unsigned , which i think ( still not checked with omnius server ) it wont...

someone should try to flash with unsigned...
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Vilam:
No, he aswer me :
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] zathire:
You can lock android phones with a gesture pattern, meaning you have to move your finger between 9 points in a certain way to unlock it (Do you know of this?), the unlock feature in Omnius unlocks that gesture pattern lock, it doesn't unlock your phone for use on other networks...

edit: too late to reply ^_^
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] lqbweb:
ok ok :P i had read it some pages before xDD i think all of us got excited hehahaheh
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] charmz2k2:
But that doesn't make sense as the unlock feature on the omnio software is also there for other non android phones...?

(Sorry to just randomly come into the convo)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] zathire:
If you select another phone and press unlock, it comes up with a menu asking which lock you want to bypass, for example: the W910 has "Unlock network lock by reset" and "User code reset"

depends on which phone you have, they might introduce SP lock bypassing in the future for the X10
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] thefunkaygibbon:
I asked about unsigned ROM files... their reply:

No, flashing of unsigned files is not possible unless a security bypass is found
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Vilam:
Please retunr to the topic of this tread : rooting and custom ROM Development^^
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] lqbweb:
we are on...
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] zathire:
I'm willing to try an unsigned ROM, I need to see for myself that it wont work... where can I find one?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] thefunkaygibbon:
Can somebody confirm that there was a root method found using the SETool, but was unable to do so through any other method...

If so, could this method be re-applied through this new tool?

Again, I may be wrong and this may not have been rooted through the SETool... but I'm sure I saw it somewhere
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Vilam:
Look at this :

http://anonym.to?http://xperia-x1.com/xperia-x10-root-access-faked/

it seem that the setool rooting was a fake :(
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] zathire:
I saw the same thing, but it strangely disappeared shortly after... I'm guessing it was fake, If there actually was a way to root using SETool it SHOULD be able to be applied using Omnius

I want Froyo on this thing already!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] MrRusch:
Post removed - irrelevant.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] zathire:
Thanks, will give it a go now and we will see
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] jerpelea:
GUYS

i don't want to dissapoint you

you are glad that an commercial product appeared and is temporary free

but on the same thread where you found DECRYPTED roms

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=683793

is an application that can Flash and unbrick your phone - that is an free app that is created by us and can flash decrypted (not UNSIGNED) files without anything else ;) and we have it for more than 1 week

unless we can not have an bootloader that accepts unsigned roms or skips sign check we can not FLASH root or custom roms

we have ROOT and CUSTOM roms ready but they are useless because those are unsigned and are rejected by phone (will not boot)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] hojsholt:
Why settle with Froyo - Let's go for Gingerbread :-D
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] MarylandCookie:
How was it achieved on the X1? Cant the same principles/methods be applied to the X10? After all it does have the same SE Bootloader?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Vilam:
I had doubt, and I was right about the need of a homemade soft, so we have to wait for the hard-worker, it's not a problem for me :)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] daran_clarke@hotmail.com:
X1

No, the X1 was an HTC manufactured phone so it wasn't a big leap for the XDA devs to Hardspl it. This is a different kettle of fish. :mad:
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] MarylandCookie:
DAMN YOU SE!! :mad:
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] BrAzzUkA's:
Thanks balsat I'll try to find the camdriver or try to extract the path of internal memory or need to access another memory for the drivers.

the folder you think is the drivers are empty are:

/data

/proc

/dev

/sys
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] fm1776:
I seem to remember reading some where that the X1 was the first to be made without any imput from htc.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] daran_clarke@hotmail.com:
X1

You might be thinking about the X2 which was not made by HTC but the first Windows Mobile made by SE without HTCs involvement. The X1 was manufactured by HTC for SE.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] balsat:
dev and proc will only contain data when android is up and running, the data dir will only contain data after first boot!

Your looking at the wrong place, the source is here
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] MarylandCookie:
Out of interest, is it possible to decompress the firmware for a x10 mini and take sections out and replace them in an x10? The sections should be signed, no? There are some pretty cool features on the mini.. ie the dialler.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] thefunkaygibbon:
The whole ROM is signed, if you 'mix and match' then you end up with an unsigned ROM, as it is now a 'non-standard'.

The idea of taking bits from one phone to another is used a lot on rooted phones (i.e. when they took bits from the Hero to put onto the G1) so this may be possible once rooted.

Could it, however, be possible to extract the APKs from Mini to install them on the X10... you may end up with 2 versions of the dialler etc, but it may work.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] cvchetan:
Mini has apps that are not in the x10 res.. so app resolution will be crappy..
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] andy8271:
AFAIK this is not a problem with android
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] sim-value:
Actually it is with all apps having a little more complex layout than only text :-)

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[XPERIA X10 Android Development] katem:
any chance to use the bluetooth to gain root?

just an idea!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] lqbweb:
why there should be any?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] happyandy93:
WORKS! Successfully re-branded my x10i@x10a back to x10i! Just make an account and place it in server settings.. very useful tool.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] sim-value:
Thats actually how root works with 1.5
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] balsat:
Yeah why not!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Vilam:
If we find an faullt in receiving a contact by bluetooth or something else...

In OBEX, sending contact is sending a .vcf file but in a unusual way :

the device send 100% of the file and the other phone receive 100%

And just after the complete transfer, the receiving device ask the user if he want to receive the file/contact.

And it's the same for .txt files.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] thefunkaygibbon:
Hi all, just seen this post on http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=6667160#post6667160

No explanation of the method... but as it was relating to root I thought I'd quote it here too (get everything into one thread, as it should be)

Hopefully we'll have something tonight, or one less thing to try at least.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] MarylandCookie:
Which file goes where?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] happyandy93:
the "Application software file" is the phone.zip

the "Customization file" is the android_xx.zip file

make sure you have an account registered and placed under settings.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] imugur:
Guys, I'm a bit lost with this threads. I was wondering if there is any progress in rooting the X10. A lot of people are waiting but no progress yet. Is anyone working on this at least?

Mugur

http://mugur-ionescu.ro/tag/xperia
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] rosco16:
good luck Lordphoenix

thanks for your effort
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Balur:
Essentially... smart people are making progress, but that progress may be meaningless as they can't know for certain when they will hit a wall.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] MarylandCookie:
Where do i find these files? lol...

Cant i use the files from SEUS? The 16Mb file and the 111Mb file?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] happyandy93:
download the correct decrypted firmware .zip file from this thread.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=683793

i mean correct version of x10 so x10i or x10a.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] MarylandCookie:
Well, the reason why i asked is that i backed up my original provider (branded) firmware and if i needed to make a warranty claim id prefer to uses this tool to flash the firmware than go through the tedious hassle with SEUS.

Also just to add im getting a 503 - Service Not Available error on the x10i link on the link: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=683793

Better still is there a tool available to convert SEUS downloaded files to decrypted f/w?

Regards

FH
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] nosidefcp:
Lordphoenix, any news about your second try?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] sabianadmin:
maybe we should all get down and pray to the god father of custom rom's cyanogen to help us out....
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] SuperUserMovado:
Unlocking X10

I have tried more than 5 times to use the wrong Nck code to unlock my x10 and now I cannot try anymore times. So basically the phone is hard locked. Does anyone know if flashing a decrypted rom will reset the NCK lock so that I will have another chance to input the correct codes I got from unlocking.com. Since rooting might take a bit longer, I wanted to know if there was a way to reset the NCK lock.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] dan-htc-touch:
I dunno, maybee ask a third time? why not just give it a go, you can back up the stock firmware, like all the flashing turtorials suggest, but I doubt that will work, what message does it give. also, wrong thread to be posting this question in
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Vilam:
I think this tool can do it, it's free for the moment :

http://www.omnius-server.com/
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] ballubas:
a hole in the phones security still needs to be found, ie IT NEEDS TO BE ROOTED FOR THIS TO WORK!!:)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] titom78:
http://www.omnius-server.com/phone?id=131

What's about the Gesture lock reset ?

Why do you want to be root? it's an hardware lock, isn't it ?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] irkkso:
/system/lost+found/ folder

I happened to notice that the folder /system/lost+found is open for reading and writing for all users. Maybe it can be used to implement the exploit ........:)

$ cd system

$ ls

default.prop

build.prop

bin

media

etc

usr

framework

fonts

ts.conf

drm

lib

wifi

app

lost+found

tts

$ ls -l

-rw-r--r-- root root 2137 2010-01-01 04:00 default.prop

-rw-r--r-- root root 1677 2010-04-01 06:27 build.prop

drwxr-xr-x root shell 2010-04-01 06:27 bin

drwxr-xr-x root root 2010-04-01 06:27 media

drwxr-xr-x root root 2010-04-01 06:27 etc

drwxr-xr-x root root 2010-04-01 06:27 usr

drwxr-xr-x root root 2010-04-01 06:27 framework

drwxr-xr-x root root 2010-04-01 06:27 fonts

-rw-r--r-- root root 649 2010-04-01 06:27 ts.conf

drwxr-xr-x root root 2010-04-01 06:27 drm

drwxr-xr-x root root 2010-04-01 06:27 lib

drwxr-xr-x root root 2010-04-01 06:27 wifi

drwxr-xr-x root root 2010-01-01 04:00 app

drw-rw-rw- root root 2010-01-01 04:00 lost+found

drwxr-xr-x root root 2010-04-01 06:27 tts
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] biktor_gj:
The system partition is mounted as readonly, so it's not of much use, sorry...
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Bin4ry:
Actual development:

We have a dev. bootloader (won't share the file sorry) and are trying to figure out how it can be flashed, because X10flash doesn't recognize bootloaders.

According to biktor we have to figure out if X10flash, USBflash.dll, the secondstage loader (Loader.sin) or the phone itself doesn't know how to handle a bootloader.

If we find a way to flash this bootlaoder we can flash unsigned images.

So, who wanna help. Just try to figure out which device handles the flashing of bootloaders or if it's possible at all).

Analyze of loader.sin (arm binary) USBFlash.dll (Windows dynamic link library) must be done to find some indications on bootloader files.

Regards

-Bin4ry
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] zerophrame:
Thanks for the update BInary =)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] lqbweb:
but, how do you know that the bootloader will allow you to flash another bootloader WITHOUT being signed? it should be the same as flashing another firm, isnt it?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] flex00:
Prob the bootloader wont check for signed files

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[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Bin4ry:
Because now it is this:

X10flash lets us FLASH everything we want, really EVERYTHING (even corrupt or unsigned files).

But at the moment the device restarts the bootlaoder checks for signature and then the " ! inside the yellow triangle" appears if something is wrong (signature or currupt file).

So the signature isn't checked while flashing, the signature is checked after reboot by the bootloader itself. What means that ? :

If we exchange the bootloader with the dev. phone bootloader -> root and custom rom wouldn't be a problem !
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] zephyrix:
basic knowledge of java and a java decompiler is enough to achieve this. besides, if you can't even use it how do you know it can flash unsigned files? are people really "donating" money for you to beg someone within semc to leak a dev boot loader? why do you need cash to do this? I could maybe understand if you were trying to buy a dev phone, but then splitting assets makes no sense. do you seriously expect to get anywhere by leeching other peoples work and trying old exploits? you can't even program in c, and you call yourself a dev??

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[XPERIA X10 Android Development] rocketpaul:
So what have you done to help achieve root?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Bin4ry:
Whats your problem here?

1.) I'm not begging money for myself. It's for community achievements. And if anyone gets root before us he will get this money too.

2.) Goroh_Kun made this X10Flash thats fact. I only made a modded version to add support for other DEVICEID's. I never said that i made X10flash.

3.) I'm NOT LEECHING OTHER PEOPLES WORK!!!!! Where is your point here? Why should i do and where i've done ?

4.) Where do i try old exploits? Everyone was trying old exploits at the beginning of this thread so this isn't a shame or is it? I was only one of hundrets who tryed m7 and asroot/asroot2 to get root working and it was thrown away after a few trys and a look a kernel sources.

5.) Why do you mean i cannot code C or java? Only because i say that we have to figure out how we can flash bootloader? Yes it's true i'm not a hero at coding java, but i'm trying to give my best.

So:

Two ways you can go:

1.) Stop junking every thread

2.) Give us a shot of your godlike brain to help.

Regards

-Bin4ry
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] :
LOL ... maybe he isn't a developer as is.. but he is one of few helping to achieve root. By the way, search in your dictionary for "developer" and (...)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] instigator008:
Keep it up Bin4ry. 99.9% of us are behind you all the way.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] andylhchen:
+1, it's really sad that there are those people who criticise without looking in the mirror.

I see good combined effort here to achieve root. There are some who have knowledge in development, there are some who is willing to donate some money for the same cause, where is the wrong in that?

There is no pressure to donate, or to develop, people do this out of the goodness in themselves and i guess also the geek within
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] zephyrix:
Fair, if you honour that I'm fine, but I really don't see why you need money to do what you're doing.

I think this applies more to jerpelea.

Anyone can try old exploits. It's not exactly a great display of your proficiency, and it certainly does not merit any form of donation.

1.) I've posted in two threads. Two != every.

2.) Maybe once I actually see something new.

http://foldoc.org/developer

Everything is wrong with that. If the devs are truly doing it out of the goodness within then the prospect of root should be motivation enough to achieve them. Money shouldn't be involved. At least not until something has actually been achieved.

I think this guy sums it up quite well:
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] chris_knows:
@Zephyrix you missed the most important part of Bin4ry's post...
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] andylhchen:
You need to learn to read first, donations are made by those who wish to, they are not forced to.

How are u so certain that the devs will stop working if there were no donations?

I am certain that you are wrong, because before any donations were made there were already devs working on rooting the device.

Please keep ur unhelpful comments off this thread, this is for development only.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] lqbweb:
this is not going (and won't do) to anywhere..... every one has its own mind, the concept of fear and deserved its very individualist and subjetive.. so don't waste mood and time on this.... I fully respect both of you but zephyrix you missed some manners
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] lqbweb:
thinking further, that makes sense :)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] sabianadmin:
ok well back on topic, is any one willing to risk their phones flashing the dev bootloader and then flashing the rom? seems like we are getting close to root access to me! (by we i mean you lol)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] zephyrix:
Missed this one.

Take a look at the FIRST POST of this thread...

Pretty sure I addressed both of those...

Obviously donations are not mandatory. Despite this some users will still feel compelled to donate in order to feel like they've contributed something. I am definitely certain that true devs wouldn't stop working if there were no donations: I'm working on it myself. Nowhere did I say that if you stop donating they'd stop working. In fact my point is exactly what you're saying. As far as I'm concerned, you're saying exactly what I am. So unless you're calling yourself wrong, then I most certainly am not. I cannot see where you pulled this one from, seriously.

"Donations" shouldn't be used as a motivator for trying to achieve root. I really don't see why you're calling my reading comprehension into question here. Moreover, I believe my comments are neither unnecessary nor unhelpful - they are necessary because you must understand that Bin4ry could simply be cashing in on your desperation to achieve root, so I am calling him into question. It especially feels like a giant scam with jerpelea asking for donations in his thread - first he posts that he's rooted the device, and posts some "rooted" boot.sin that will never work, then he changes the thread and compiles a list of other people's work. Then he puts a donation link as the very first thing he mentions in his posts. You are doing little in terms of actual argument; rather you are simply attacking me personally - and this doesn't help your case in any way. Prove me wrong.

I am only being rude because I cannot stand people that are all talk. If you dare to ask for donations, you better have a damn compelling case for doing so. I don't think I'm wrong in saying that donations are completely unnecessary during the whole process: the prospect of root combined with the bounty is more than enough motivation. If you've achieved nothing new then don't even bother. Am I wrong?

Anyway, thank you for being respectful. I acknowledge that my bluntness is a weakness of mine, but as I mentioned above I cannot help it when I feel strongly about something. Sure it gives other people an avenue of attack, but anyone who utilizes this isn't truly making an argument. Rather, they are simply banking on fallacious logic, and more specifically, the straw man.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] kl25:
i am not a developer so i feel that i should be the last to speak.

but if there is an admin or moderator monitoring this thread can you please delete all posts unrelated to the development? (including this one i wrote)

i respect everyone's own opinion but please, this is probably the 2nd time ive said this...all discussions unrelated to the development should be brought else where....

if you want to discuss about the issue with donations....bring this to the donation thread......voice your opinion there. simply follow the title of the threads....
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] HunteronX:
That does make sense - but how can we get one?

EDIT: Oops - found out Bin4ry has a dev bootloader.

Looking good!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] HunteronX:
I think that the phone can flash bootloaders, because with my old T-Mobile Pulse it did so, to be able to run android 2.1 properly (contained in its update).