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[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Stank0:
You must be kidding or you are extremelly close-minded.

Let me take it one by one.

I am stuck with someone else's opinion of how my UI should be configured.

I don't see any merit to this statement. Sense homescreen on winmo isn't exactly what I call customizable. You're pretty much stuck with HTC's opinion how your homescreen should look like.

Microsoft is still developing it only now strictly to business users. What does that tell you? They know Android, iphone and their new wp7 are toys. Wp7 will probably go the way of kin.

What is this supposed to even mean?

"They know Android, iphone and their new wp7 are toys."

How did you get to that conclusion??? Because they aren't developing for Android or iPhone? C'mon. You can't be serious.

All I want is to be able to get all the important info I need to use on one main screen.

Ok... How much the winmo's and Android's sense really differes? On winmo you'we got a clock and a weather. Same as on android. Then there is an ICON which will take you to the calendar on a DIFFERNT SCREEN! How's that different from Android?

Then there is the appointments widget which could be also part of your homescreen on Android. It just looks different.

Then you can see missed calls, mail and SMSs. Same as Android. Then there is the slider. Which will take you to... next screens. How much can you configure these on winmo??? Hahaha., I'm afraid you can't. You're stuck with "someone else's opinion of how my UI should be configured" aren't you? All you can do is to add or take away screens pre-defined by HTC.

On Android you can't add or take away screens. You're stuck with seven of them. But you can add or take away whatthehellever you want on that screens.

Where is thet huge gap in "functionality, productivity, and effieciency" you're talking about?

Bottom line is... you don't have any more info on your homescreen on winmo than on Andriod.

Google maps with my gps worked everybit as good on winmo as it does on my EVO. Sprint navigation with voice directions did too.

winmo doesn't have Google Navigation.

Android, even with it's 7 screens can't get as much on there as winmo can on just one screen. Even 6.0 had the capability.

This is a blatant lie.

What interface are you even talking about. Sense? Windows default homescreen? Titanium?

We already covered Sense. There is virtually nothing on wnmo's sense you couldn't have on Androd.

If you like Titaium, try http://www.larvalabs.com/product_detail.php?app=26

I hope you aren't talking about winmo 6.1 homecreen. If you do, you need help.

If you have half a brain you can find sites where you can get thousands of winmo apps

Apparently you're talking about warez. I refuse to have discussion on this subject here.

I just want all the tools I need on one screen or at least as close to that one screen as possible and winmo has exactly what I want.

Congratulations! Enjoy!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrono:
same as this guy
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sumo911:
You've obviously never heard of or used CHT or MaxManila. Huge difference from Android Sense! One thing i find annoying about Android is its lack of (or my inability to figure out) automatic download of email attachments. I have to manually click the download link in each email, and sit at this screen waiting for attachments to download; because if I navigate away, the download cancels. I find this very annoying! WinMo does a superb job of automatically downloading all my email attachments as they arrive, as well as allowing me to multitask more efficiently, IMO, especially with apps like wkTask! If anyone has a solution to this little annoyance in android, do share....:confused::rolleyes:
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DraginMagik:
winmo on evo?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DraginMagik:
try this...

to start with, i do not love the default Exchange client on the EVO. it's kinda crappy to be honest... but it works. then again, i don't like HTC Sense either, thankfully i have found a nice replacement for Sense. hopefully Froyo will bring a nifty cool exchange client.

it sounds like you simply have a misconfigured setting. not sure what the default setting is, but it is every easy to make a change in the first few days and not be able to find it again later. :D

from main desktop screen -> click Menu button -> "Settings" -> "Accounts & sync" -> "Exchange ActiveSync" -> "Account settings" -> at the bottom of this screen you should see "Include file attachement" and you can set by size.

I hope this helps.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cnstarz:
why would anyone want to put a closed source system on an open source device?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JUST2SUAVE:
Dumb ****
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IceCreaMan:
i came from winmo on a at&t tilt to the evo and can you tell you that the intergration on android is waay better and easier. i've flashed that phone with quite a few different custom 6.1/6.5 winmo roms so i get the UI experience your referring to but if you want windows mobile on a evo, just go get the HTC HD2 on tmobile... i mean its less hassle and comes with the transformer movie... its practically a no brainer *snicker

on the other hand, porting winmo to the evo will not be an easy task just like it was not an easy task to port android to the at&t tilt via nand/sdcard. you matter as well wait for the HD3 or similar phone that will have WP7 on a slightly better EVO hw type phone which should be within 4-5 months for the christmas rush.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Stank0:
Yeah, yeah, yeah... I tried them both. MaxManilla and c00kie. I liked c00kie better. I didn't need the complexity of MM.

But the question remains. How much really winmo homescreen differs from Android even with these mods? Both mods (MM and c00kie) don't really add any more information on homescreen do they? Yes, you can get more information when you tap or swipe on it. But doesn't Android's sense do absolutelly same thing?

You can have the clock+weather+calendar widget on homescreen and you can still fit there a few most important icons, shortcuts or folders. Yeah. Try put folder on your homescreen in winmo. :p

Or some more widgets according to your taste.

Want more icons? Put them on the next screen. Difference? On c00kie you slide creen up, on Android left or right. I'm still failing to see that great advantage on winmo.

wkTask... can't really talk about this one because I was using competition. Forgot the name of it. Not really great difference from any task killer.

What else you got?

i see this discussion is pretty much pointless. It's like talking about religion.

Waste of time.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Manicmobileaddict:
So if I want 8 full screen widgets what do I do?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Manicmobileaddict:
Ok, just 7 full screen widgets....and a folder?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eigerzoom:
its way off base to say that optional programs for winmo are all warez...

you can buy and/or support extremely functional apps for winmo just the same as android

the more i have looked into android now it seems basically just as functional as wm

i think people will just argue for the sake of argueing in support of their own decisions

rather than think outside their own box and try and be unbiased

the new android devices have more processing power now so thats a plus

i cant comment on battery life compared to my touch pro

i find it fairly absurd to think that android can compare anything to windows mobile in the software development category

sure development is an open book...but as far as long standing encyclopedia of apps

just be real for a moment...wm apps have been developed for around 10 years

show me a motion activated video recorder for the camera or incredible interface programs like spb pocket plus 4 or iconsoft phonex dialer and i'll smile at android graciously

i dont need 7 screens...what a cluster F of bs...i use one single screen

my wm phone is more functional in my opinion and my bill is $33.xx/mo with 450 minutes and unlimited data/txt

for someone like me...upgrading to a $80 plan for faster device with slightly less functionality makes no sense

android doesn't have anything over windows mobile at this stage beyond the device itself

which is why such a post was even created

my preference goes to windows mobile

i'm used to its customizations and i believe it offers more of what i want

strictly personal preference...you have yours...now learn how to read thread topics and the OP's original post

preferences is what makes the device worth your time

and you are just going to come up and post things like "your wrong android is better"

well...thats pretty ignorant of a response

its merely different...and different has never, and will never, imply better or worse

thats a decision and assumption made by the user

i mean sprint wants more money just for wifi sharing??? what the hell is that

if you buy a device with certain capabilities...those capabilities should be included in the purchase price

who buys the ferrari with a 100mph speed governor?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] funcrusher:
Lol @ winmo
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eigerzoom:
lol @ your bill

time=money

i can see laughing at wm...your like most idiots

and dont want to devote time into the device...

i can understand that 100%...but you are still missing it

android is more functional out of the box

but if you take your time and find a solid wm rom like bazzles clean rom on ppcgeeks or build your own rom with a kitchen...

there is nothing in your way from enjoying the device and encyclopedia of apps

failure to explore the options has led you to spend more money for less

but dont let me stop you

you get a nice device and you are supporting sprint from going bankrupt

let me buy you a beer
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GaryJ51:
I've got an HD TP2 and an EVO 4G. I like both of them. They are different and each has it's stenghts and weaknesses.

Winmo 6.5 has much better sync capability with MS Office apps, particularly outlook. Ironically, the one aggravation I had was that it wouldn't sync the calendar with anything other than the default outlook calendar. We have a homeserver that runs sharepoint so we can all put our calendar events on the sharepoint calendar. WOW, the android sync lets me select the sharepoint calendar for the sync. Amazing that MS still doesn't have this feature available.

On the other hand the sync options for someone who uses MSO a lot are better in the winmo device.

They are both great phones, each has it's own quirks, but I like both of them.

There, now both sides have someone to be rude to.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] funcrusher:
I've spent plenty of time with winmo, Stevie. No thanks. My bill is irrelevant.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Stank0:
I'm done arguing what system is better. It was said that Android sucks while winmo rocks. I expressed my (opposite) opinion. If you don't like it, kiss my buns.

Just wanted to point out that you have been probably misinformed.

I assume you're talking about wifi THETHERING which is a paid option. (with a free workaround)

It is (or was) a paid option with AT&T (or at least it was when I was with them) for about the same price.

AFAIK it's free with tmous but I didn't enjoy it that much because their 3G coverage across the country sucks lemon.

I agree with you that tethering should be free of charge since we are already paying for the data plan. But we have free market here which means that if they CAN charge you for something, they WILL.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ninja_unmatched:
Most of you are all assholes. You are so mesmerized by the EVO's Andriod that you are not even seeing what these people are saying. Window Mobile may be dead in your eyes but is ideal for a large number of people because it works with a lot of stuff. It has been out soooo long and that is what makes it better still than Android. People have invested money in getting their apps to work with WinMo. I can go on and on and on about what Window Mobile can do and Android cannot. Don't get me wrong I like Android but there is just a lot of crap that I do as well as these people that make me unable to make the EVO my main phone. So for now the EVO is just my testing phone.

Some anus actually said he would report the person who ports WinMo to the EVO????...... Only 1 word, snitch comes to mind. Please ban this person. In a community like this snitches are not welcome.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ninja_unmatched:
Dude next time keep the failsauce word out. If you are gonna say that make sure your details are right. Hardware may be similar but on crappy T-mobile which by the way has been predicted to not be around in years to come. This prediction seem crazy if you know what T-mobile actually is so I'm only inclined to believe that T-mobile in America will be gone. Back to the point.....HD2 with only T-mobile crappy speeds.......Might as well have the EVO on T-mobile then. Don't make dumb comments like these and totally dismiss why the person even wants the EVO including you, because if the EVO did come out on T-mobile would it still be the huge rave it is now?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ninja_unmatched:
Thankyou my freind. Somebody that actually knows something has spoken. All you people downing WinMo and this person has made THE point. Companies have been installing WinMo on hardware it was never designed for in the first place. This is common even in the Desktop Windows world. (Ever get that dell XP PC with only 512MB of memory? Even if Microsoft said it "CAN BE" done.)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ninja_unmatched:
Dude did you even hear what Maniacmobileaddict said? Hardware that Winmo was really designed for is just now coming out. I don't care what happened in past or what Microsoft hardware requirements have said. Any real tech person knows better and takes Microsoft's requirements as a grain of salt and knows more is always needed for Windows/Windows Mobile.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ninja_unmatched:
Dude your analogy is not even correct. Windows 95 and 3.1 are several generations in the past. Windows Mobile 6.5 is not.....in fact it has been ahead of its time the whole time. This is why it has so much trouble. It has been on phones that could never really handle it. Microsoft's OSs have always been this way. Let us not forget that Android is still linux...hello. Linux is getting better but still has a long way to go from Windows. Linux still to this day has a generic look to it (even when you can get 3D going.) and Android is no different.

And WinMo on an EVO would sell.... Sprint should consider this. They could offer a WinMo option and charge more for the phone and people would buy it, including me. See I'm not one of those dumb people that need the simplicity of the Apple OS or even Android. I can get a WinMo phone and make it do what I want it to do and not have my pocket scorched. Froyo coming out and I'll bet Sprint takes out Google's free tethering. (But I'm only listing 1 detail among many.)

Anyone that says you can do anything on Android that you can on WinMo is just not speaking truth. Because I still cannot Wifi router my EVO. And I'm not gonna pay an extra $30 to do that. Seriously people..... You would be paying another fee for the WiFi feature in the phone which is the same price my internet service fee is at home. How often would anyone even use it enough to justify that? Don't get me started on the actually being able to use it on 4G or even 3G for that matter because the network itself IS NOT AS GOOD as you or anyone would say it is. Also I have access to a TP2 and an EVO and my TP2 now drops calls even more (the EVO drops calls just as much) since the EVO launch.

EVO I love but I'm not sure Sprint was even ready to release such a phone or any of the other carriers either for that matter. When the Droid X comes out and it starts to flood Verizon's network I wanna see how Verizon handles it.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ninja_unmatched:
Know what you are talking about b4 u speak. Microsoft WinMo was not designed for the 1D10T generation. So by innovate I assume you mean trade features for simplicity.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ninja_unmatched:
Dude explain your comment. What shells? without that your comment is nothing. And when you say shells are you referring to different versions of Android? or just what Samsung as opposed to what other companies do to Android?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ninja_unmatched:
Dude get out of the World of Warcraft world okay. We talking BIG boy stuff here.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ninja_unmatched:
I'm with you dude. My TP2 with the Sprint Lovers ROM where I can play World of warcraft with my WiFi router is great. As to why I would do this well we switched to AT&T service at home to lower costs and have been sorry about not keeping Cable internet ever since. AT&T DSL only works on my street and UVERSE is right around the freakin' block. I found out why this is and it seems AT&T had plans rolled out to simply condition the line for U-Verse but they got wind of a possible strike and stopped the project in the middle.

My phone changes from having Android to whatever I please on it and I don't have to pay extra for it. I can be out of a job and still have my internet service. Content here with the TP2. GF has EVO, which I suggested for her due to her not being as savvy and as patient as I am so it works for her. I need functionality.

I too will let all you people pay into Sprint's fund and when things get up to speed then I will jump. Also people do not put too much faith in the EVO because there is talk of Sprint switching. What happens then with your nice Android EVO?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ViViDboarder:
Ever heard of multi-quote? :p

A couple points to make...

Service varies based on location so a carrier is a preference of cost and service. This definitely a reason why one may not "just get the TP2 if they want WinMo"

My EVO acts as a Wifi router now without the 30/mo charge. (Go to the dev part of the forum, download SimpleRoot and then install Android Tether)

Some people prefer different OS over others. Someone wants WinMo 6.5 on their EVO? Good for them. What's not good for them is that none of the devs seem to be interested in doing the legwork.

As for Sprint switching to LTE... You do realize that a phone is not a permenant decision right? If Sprint decides to switch to LTE, those switches wouldn't likely happen for 1.5 years anyway. They haven't even found an agreement yet. Once that happens so much would have to go down to get the networks up and running. In that time... I'll be dumping my EVO for the next best thing. Just like how I dumped my iPhone after 2 years for Wimax... which currently is the next best thing.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ninja_unmatched:
Oooh finally someone with an example..okay but like I said. That was only 1 of many but I also know about that and I see how that method does not always workout well for people. That does work but not for all. I've seen how the guy later comes out with a fix for something that method broke in the phone. I'm good man. Froyo update coming out too which means that method will become invalid anyways.

As for the time frame of the Sprint switch. It does not matter because we know other phones that come out will be based off the EVO idea now. So when that time finally comes in the 1.5 year you say then whatever phone you have (based still on the EVO with say a better processor) will more than likely not be able to take advantage of the change. Oh maybe with a software update but we all know how Sprint is with that.

As for service? Dude man this has affected phone users everywhere regardless of how good the service is in an area. Have you even seen the comments people have made regarding their download speeds dropping on their other phones on sprint? This is not more than just Sprint already not being great in my area. It is now worse now in my area and my whole family is on Sprint and only 1 has the EVO.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ViViDboarder:
I'm not sure what you mean about Linux look and all... If you mean that stock Android is bland looking then I'd probably say the same about stock WinMo. The only stock phone OSs I think look flashy are WinMo7 and iOS.

Android, and to an extent Linux, is definitely about function. I doubt we'll see anything too flashy out of the stock OS. It's meant to be branched from as Motorola and HTC have already done so they can create whatever look they want. Android DOES run on the Linux kernel. What you look at is not Linux though even on a desktop. Most desktops run a Window Manager that lets you see your GUI. That's one of the choices one has when using Linux and one of the choices the phone manufactures make when building phones (unless you hang around here and you flash your own roms ;))

Android is relatively infantile compared to the legacy of WinMo. Think about what WinMo was like 2 years after it's first release and you'll realize how much progress Android is making. That's one of the cool things about using Android for me. I'm less excited about what my phone DOES than I am about what it COULD DO in the future! The additions since the first iteration of Android and what is has now are fantastic! I can only imagine what we'll be seeing in the next couple of years.

These are the reasons why I doubt you'll see many people working to port an aging OS to a new device. At least hope for a WinMo7 port so there will be something to look forward to after. :)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ninja_unmatched:
Hmmm, you still cannot compare. Times were different then. Things change at different times for reasons no 1 really ever knows. I could say things are bad now cause God wanted it to so people will do what they were created for which is to create and be fruitful. Get away from the slavery type mentality of working for 1 company that just sucks you dry. I mean the creative market is flourishing now while all others have taken a big hit. But who really knows, right?

Oh and by bland I mean, for instance, Windows 7 has the KDE look but still has more graphical elements involved when Aero is enabled then Kubuntu does when 3D is working. Even though a good amount of features have been in linux for years like window previews and stuff but What I mean is the elements of everything like: beveling, shadowing, gradients and so on... I can get a cube going in Windows 7 too if I want. Windows 7 was my idea.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Stank0:
ninja_unmatched: I dare you to make less sense!

Are you on drugs?

Call your true power and master yourself. Kung Pao