yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Desire Themes and Apps] foxmeister:
There was a story going round that HTC was going to update the Desire with support for XviD/DivX.

As to H264 - given that H264 is the native video format for Android, we've already got it! :)

Regards,

Dave
[Desire Themes and Apps] robbiekhan:
I think HTC are saving the goods for the FroYo rollout :)

Roll on another few weeks!
[Desire Themes and Apps] darkgear:
Maybe someone will port over the Archos 5 IMT media player. It works nicely on Android.
[Desire Themes and Apps] JagSem:
Highly irritating. Google Format Factory in the mean time. Converts divx to mp4.
[Desire Themes and Apps] lambrospower:
is there a way someone dump the galaxy s codecs or any codec from android devices that play divx files ???? we have such a powerfull device and we cannot see a movie without converting it...
[Desire Themes and Apps] MacCarron:
I honestly don't give a crap about xvid/divx, that's a 20th century format :p:p:p. I want 720p mkv playback/recording :D:D
[Desire Themes and Apps] 513:
Search for Rockplayer on Google, it plays divx flawlessly.

Mod. edit: This is a beta, the developer didn't consent it's distribution. Publishing it would be posting warez, so better don't.http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=6805512#post6805512http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=6805512#post6805512
[Desire Themes and Apps] str355:
i'll check it out later, i'm getting fedup having to convert everything i want to watch to MP4...

found the APK, its a beta apparently
[Desire Themes and Apps] 513:
I think you should delete the link, it not very legit to put this apk on xda forums.
[Desire Themes and Apps] str355:
yeah your probably right, haha (deleted)

EDIT: just tested it, plays .avi spot on - no more converting :)
[Desire Themes and Apps] Balos:
Yep. But now I need a biiger SD card. lol
[Desire Themes and Apps] robbiekhan:
I'm only using it to play TV shows on the go so if I download something the night before I'll just bung it on my Desire and watch at Lunch when at work :p

It plays mkv h264 @ 720p too but at 5fps so looks like they need to enable some more Snapdragon acceleration for h.264 :p
[Desire Themes and Apps] abats:
I'll stick with converting to x264 in an MP4 container. Just tried this with a normal divx episode, playing it causes 100% cpu constantly.

Takes me maybe 8 minutes to convert it and the MP4 uses around 35-40% cpu power.
[Desire Themes and Apps] reaper2507:
Re: Xvid, divx for android

Therock player works almost perfectly why is it leaked and from where it don't seem like a big secret anyway

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[Desire Themes and Apps] oursoul:
Searched for 'rockplayerbase' on google, installed and now watching an Xvid full screen @ 24fps

I've been waiting for this day since forever. Nowwww why doesn't the bloody thing have a tv-out option.
[Desire Themes and Apps] remmyhi:
Now only to make a SRT subtitles and fully "portable cinema"...
[Desire Themes and Apps] plopingo:
Mod. edit: Warez link removed. This is a beta, the developer didn't consent it's distribution. Consider this 1st warning!http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=6805512#post6805512http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=6805512#post6805512
[Desire Themes and Apps] deviouscreation:
Re: Xvid, divx for android

I downloaded an apk for rock divx player, but when installed its called Demo player. Is there a different apk which is a full version, or is this it?

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[Desire Themes and Apps] jondalar:
Works like a charm! :D
[Desire Themes and Apps] th3:
Re: Xvid, divx for android

That's what I have. The one that takes up 6MB.

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[Desire Themes and Apps] oursoul:
one has an 'R' watermark this newer one doesn't
[Desire Themes and Apps] Vulpix:
Can someone please tell the developer to continue developing this software? It works so well that man, I am willing to pay 10 bucks for this to get more enhancements.
[Desire Themes and Apps] TerrAme0:
Android seriously lacks on the multimedia side.

No proper divx/xvid player and no music player with Eq and pre-amp features.

I think in 2010 this is a shame...
[Desire Themes and Apps] oursoul:
Lets hazard a guess that this is might have leaked from higher up than a Bedroom Dev ;)

If not then I'm even more than impressed and the Dev should please come forward so we can shower them in internet points..

A tenner is too steep tho, call it £3 and I'm happy.
[Desire Themes and Apps] Vulpix:
I think you should be aware that writing an app for playing videos smoothly is no easy task, I believe US$10 (not £10) is a fantastic price point.
[Desire Themes and Apps] oursoul:
Okay I'm lowering my offer to ... £0
[Desire Themes and Apps] Draken Korin:
Mod. edit: RockPlayer is indeed beta and the developer didn't consent it's distribution. So publishing it is posting warez and a breach of forum rules. Pls wait until it's officially released. Link removed. Thx.
[Desire Themes and Apps] kevinsmbuk:
Why dont they just sell the beta version now if it's ready!
[Desire Themes and Apps] th3:
Re: Xvid, divx for android

Any quality vid and app in 2010 -- and every semi-new to new official trailers/vids -- are using H.264 hence why every single phone manufacturer tries their best to support it natively. DivX/XviD belongs to the now redundant 2002-8 gen. Even YouTube uses H.264.

Contrary to the ignorant, the beta player we are discussing is purported on websites to be a DivX, XviD, MKV, AVI player. I'm waiting to see what the dev says it supports. As a media player, currently, it plays XviD/DivX AVIs at low bitrates and low resolutions fine. But it does not play XviD/DivX at high resolutions or medium-high bitrates. No 800*450 or 720p playback. It also does not play MP4 and MSMP4 AVIs, 3GPs, MKVs, nor the H.264 format. It does play MPEG-1 and MPEG-2 vids fine though. It might be better if the dev launches it as just a low bitrate/res XviD/DivX player.

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[Desire Themes and Apps] foxmeister:
*facepalm*

If it was ready, it wouldn't be in beta! ;)

Consider this though - if you look at most of the bad reviews of applications on the Market, they are usually posted by people who simply haven't read the description of the app. i.e. The developer says "doesn't currently work on the Desire", and yet you still have a half dozen 1 star reviews saying "Not working on my Desire".

Regards,

Dave
[Desire Themes and Apps] oursoul:
This is the world we live in. A good review can be drowned in a sea of stupidity.

My mates fb status at the moment reads.

'Genius has its limits yet there is no end to stupidity.'
[Desire Themes and Apps] th3:
Re: Xvid, divx for android

LOL. Oh hey, that's just like the internet forums... where "facts" are little more than an ignorant, illiterate 15 year olds fanboy rant, lacking any knowledge, research, objectivity or intelligence. We had a cute saying for such geniuses in CS:S... ES&D.

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[Desire Themes and Apps] Wayne_ho:
weird... I am running on my desire and indeed super smooth.

Had tried on a few format,

.rmvb - 350MB

.avi - 700MB, 1.4GB

.wmv

.TS - 710MB

All runs fine except rmvb which lags abit. But well, its real file!!! Even thou Win mobile with coreplayer can run multiple format, they still cant handle real file well. But this player runs pretty well !

Tested on .avi with the size of 1.4GB, around 24fps. So it seems that it can handles pretty big files despite its resolution is big.

But did anyone having any problem like watching half way and it boot out on its own?
[Desire Themes and Apps] jimlad:
Re: Xvid, divx for android

Played

Audio Ac3 48000 Hz @ 2ch

Mpeg4 1280x 544

Avi 2097524kb

Between 9 & 19 fps.
[Desire Themes and Apps] th3:
Re: Xvid, divx for android

Those are the same stats as one vid I tried. Is it encoded in MSMP4, XviD or DivX?

I have the same vid in DivX, MSMP4 and XviD, 23.9x FPS. All 3 of these will come up as MPEG-4 and 720p. The DivX/XviD ones are very choppy, sound is lagged by around 4-8sec, and sometimes for long durations, it is totally off.

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[Desire Themes and Apps] kimlindo:
Re: Xvid, divx for android

Sweet! I don't really need that much quality, I just need something to play my files without converting them (I'm way to lazy) and rock player did the trick. It even played my real media files that not even the real media player wanted to play!

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[Desire Themes and Apps] TerrAme0:
th3

I agree with you in everything you said, it just still hurts, that we have a great mobile OS with great potential in it, and such "basic" features are out of the pocket, while the Android market is flooded 100's of silly/useless apps.

I'm most bothered by the lack of proper Eq capable audio player, but this belongs to another thread...
[Desire Themes and Apps] david_inuk:
I couldn't agree with you more!!!

This OS has so much potential yet Goolges seems to be deliberatly doing things with one hand tied behind it's back.

I remember reading a satirical article somewhere recently about how they belive that a certain company (who shall remain nameless due to the risk of the mods deleting this post) has plants withing all their competitors to ensure that they keep on scoring own goals to ensure that they stey on top.

Palm OS: Amazing product, terrible marketing and build quality.

Microsoft OS: Powerful OS, amazing functionality, but a train wreck, and then they try to build a new train and leave the old one to splutter along into oblivion.

Google: Amazing OS, but why of why have they neutered it in so many ways??

Hmmm, I wonder which company I've left out!
[Desire Themes and Apps] dude12398:
Running MoDaCo Custom ROM for Nexus One with Online Kitchen - FRF50 Froyo (2.2)

I am at 30 Frames per Second with MKS files from Ripped DVD Video running 4GB Files.

720x480 resolution (480p) not compress just used MKS program to save original DVD format and Dolby 5.1 Sound to one file which only takes 5 minutes to do then 5 minutes to copy file to 16GB MicroSD card.

This program i amazing.......... Keep up the good work.

The new version of Google called FROYO version 2.2 is 400 times faster then older 2.1 google version.
[Desire Themes and Apps] th3:
Re: Xvid, divx for android

^Good to know. That's what we need - more testing and more data. That's the only way to make positives and shortcomings apparent for everyone and the only way to get things improved... I bet the dev is reading the thread.

This app was one I wasn't expecting anytime soon; it has started off very well in the beta stages and has a lot of potential so it's in our benefit that we help in genuine test>feedback for things to improve, where we can. The more test details, the better.

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[Desire Themes and Apps] th3:
Re: Xvid, divx for android

If communities like xda-dev can keep the trolls and fanboys at bay, we have the combined potential to a) be heard b) help one another make these devices do what we require within their hard limitations, even if the corps put artificial limitations there for their financial interests. Segmentation and profit making through artificial handicaps is the name of the game in the tech industry since the very beginning.

That's the best aspect about Androids open-ness on the software side, and what the hack communities are best at utilizing for their own gains. If you can't code for whatever reason, help out in another useful way.

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[Desire Themes and Apps] tsamolotoff:
LMAO... If android were not based on incompatible java-vm and incompatible libc, I bet there would be plenty of ported FOSS video/audio players and so on...
[Desire Themes and Apps] th3:
Re: Xvid, divx for android

There are limitations and problems. That's why no where did I say or hint to it being fully open, limitless or without shortcomings. Whatever limitations currently there still doesn't take away from it being more open than any competitor on the mobile front. Case in point, show me a better mobile open source implementation. Also show me one mobile OS that has better, more diverse vid playback software with no basic limits and shortcomings on the video side.

Everything will have some shortcoming and limitation. Add to that, these corps like Google just want money/marketshare, nothing else.

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[Desire Themes and Apps] tsamolotoff:
And that's exactly why every man who rants on android's openness and human-friendly nature is a hypocrite, amirite? :)
[Desire Themes and Apps] Balos:
Not wanting to state the obvious here but the RockPlayer isnt really that good. It does really play the TV shows smoothly but the picture quality is not really brilliant what makes me wonder. Maybe because its beta or something but I can get better picture quality from converting the same .avi to mp4 with EncodeHD or Xmedia Recode. So I basically get better quality from the copy then the source itself. I dont change almost nothing. No resolution or any bigger filters. Infact with encode HD you cant change anything. Maybe because mp4 is hardware accelerated or something but the picture is much more smooth on the edges and not so sharp or blocky around the edges.

Sure. You dont need to recode anymore so you save about 6 mins per TV show that way. Its not really that bad so you have to weight your priority's here.
[Desire Themes and Apps] th3:
Re: Xvid, divx for android

Those ranting about the obvious are usually enraged keyboard warriors and/or fanatic teenage script kiddies without their logical reasoning blocks functioning, yes. They see 10 where it's 4. I don't think they're intentionally hypocrites, but probably, either narrow-minded to begin with and/or jumping to fallacious interpretations too quickly ;)

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[Desire Themes and Apps] tsamolotoff:
Balos: You can try to use Yamb or similar program to simply remux mkvs or avis into mp4, at least snapdragon-based smartphones should support hw decoding at resolution <=720p at Level 4.1 with reframes <7 :)
[Desire Themes and Apps] foxmeister:
I don't know - it seems to me that in some ways Google takes the view that if iPhone can get away with it, so can Android.

When Android 1.0 shipped, bluetooth support was woeful, and it wasn't until 2.0 that we got a bluetooth stack that supported more than handsfree and A2DP. This isn't too far removed from what happened with the iPhone.

Similarly, Android support H264 well (like iPhone), but no built in support for DivX. It's very hard for someone to write an app to fill that hole because such an app would be processor intensive, and thus not suited to interpreted Java. If Google had built in native DivX support at the start, this conversation simply wouldn't exist.

What possibly annoys me more though is that Android can handle pretty much an video stream than an iPhone can, but most websites can't or won't serve up an Android compatible stream to an Android phone - BBC iPlayer, I'm looking at you!

Regards,

Dave
[Desire Themes and Apps] foxmeister:
This is almost certainly why it was still in a closed beta.

Personally, I think that RockPlayer is good enough for my purposes, and I will be purchasing it once it gets released (well, assuming nothing better becomes available beforehand).

You are right that recoding isn't a huge chore, and since I've been using Android phones since late 2008, I'm quite used to it. However, there are certain shows that I download from torrents where I really don't mind if the quality isn't 100% when I'm viewing on such a small screen, and the convenience of just being able to download it and drop it onto the phone with recoding is worth a few quid in my opinion.

Regards,

Dave
[Desire Themes and Apps] Balos:
This doesnt work. Playback quality is slower then .avi and picture quality is same. So nope. Rather not convert at all then.
[Desire Themes and Apps] ragdoll20:
Re: Xvid, divx for android

Rockplayer really does the job for me

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[Desire Themes and Apps] francist:
would installing the Adobe Flash 10.1 help the Rockplayer app run movies better on our Desire?
[Desire Themes and Apps] oursoul:
no it wont
[Desire Themes and Apps] A|ex:
why is it bad, i dont have any problems using it and it seems to be fairly fast. Is there another player better? as the player cost me money and i dont want to keep buying to test
[Desire Themes and Apps] djoni1980:
rock divx player in beta version plays the same movie at much higher framerate

When final version arrives - definitely the best solution for divx/xvid playback
[Desire Themes and Apps] Pyr0x64:
Public BETA release:

http://www.diffthink.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4
[Desire Themes and Apps] oursoul:
That's great!

Expires in 3 weeks time!?

ooh
[Desire Themes and Apps] well0549:
Geeeeeezzzz all those people wanting to play xvid...

Just download whatever you want from newsgroups, put it in a directory,

then start "Format Factory" hit the convert button and after a while (depending on your PC) you will have a perfect MP$ playable on every device (Yes even iPhones).

It's even friendly to your sd card since it schrinks your file by approx 50 % (if you decrease the resolution a bit, this is not noticable while playing !)
[Desire Themes and Apps] oursoul:
Why bother..

This new beta works perfectly. Instant playback, perfect quality, now plays mp4's without question.

This is the ultimate media player in the making
[Desire Themes and Apps] foxmeister:
Hey! Well done for so completely missing the point!

We all *know* we can transcode the video to H264 - the point is that we shouldn't have to, because DivX is a ubiquitous standard and therefore should be supported.

Regards,

Dave
[Desire Themes and Apps] th3:
Any test > feedback of the new public beta by anyone in comparison to the older leaked beta?

Official claimed support is suprisingly diverse: "avi mkv rmvb flv mp4 3gp wmv mov asf , divx xvid h264 rv40"

If there was an app that could play those decently, it would be wowzer. I don't have any vids on the phone to test for a few days.
[Desire Themes and Apps] oursoul:
Like I said, it plays instantly, it feels lighter and quicker and it plays mp4s now as if it could all along. I've only tested xvid & mp4, but it seems exactly as it should be.

Finished product will be along soon enough I can tell.
[Desire Themes and Apps] huleboeren:
How about we JUST download the movies and transfer them to the phone without having to reencode everything :S

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[Desire Themes and Apps] well0549:
yup... that's indeed very handy if no transcoding is needed but the size will be big bigger than needed and the processor still has to decode everything so it will probably cost more battery to play cid add well.

and if you are like me and have Tom and Jerry vol1 to vol10 on sd together with the entire Disney/ pixar collection and so on size as well as battery matters.
[Desire Themes and Apps] abats:
Indeed, like I said on page 2 of this thread the CPU is at a constant 100%. With MP4 it's around 35% CPU usage or something.
[Desire Themes and Apps] well0549:
Howe do you measure processor during video playback, since mine are smaller I guess they will have even less processor usage....
[Desire Themes and Apps] abats:
I just put http://www.androlib.com/android.application.nextapp-systempanel-iFtq.aspx on monitor and played 5minutes of divx/mp4
[Desire Themes and Apps] ArtieQ:
What about the built-in video player? I know it's like all other in-built where it only plays mp4 (for now) and it has hardware acceleration. I'm just curious how it performs if you convert a 700mb HDTV or something into mp4 (with subtitles burnt in).
[Desire Themes and Apps] th3:
Quite honestly, the built-in player has an extremely limited/frustrating GUI as a vid player. But Act 1 player and some others rectify that very much. They all play H.263/H.264 MP4s and MPEG-4 3GPs with subtitles very fine. Even 720p 3GB vids. Just not MKV/AVI/WMV/TS files, nor vids in the DivX/XviD formats.

These players will work well as long as you keep vid framerate, bitrate and resolution within their suitable range.

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[Desire Themes and Apps] devvi:
Do you know the maximum of resolution, kb/s, sound, etc.? Or is the max res. the native res. of the Screen?(800*---)

It takes me alot of time to reencode all my movies to the appropiate format to watch it :/

/Dev
[Desire Themes and Apps] superbay:
Just for estimation, i have a video captured with DSLR Camera and the details are like this:

Resolution: 640x480

Video Bitrate: 20405 kbps

Audio Bitrate: 1535 kbps

It runs in a very slow motion with RockPlayer in my Desire. I havent tried to reencode it but i think you can keep the video bitrate in around 1200-1500 kbps and audio bitrate in 128kbps to preserve quality and size as i always do.

Btw, has anybody tried Real Player for Android? It's still in beta version. I have the screenshot but i can't view it here since new members are unable to post outside links. It can play video or music and view photos in your Android handheld. I'm just not sure if it's better than Rockplayer or not. You can get it from the Market
[Desire Themes and Apps] th3:
The bitrate and resolution each player will play (by that I mean properly without frame drops and other problems) depends on the type of vid/aud. I can list what I've tested so far with the new RockPlayer beta if that helps;

It plays MP3/PCM/AC3/AMR/ACC within vids perfectly fine upto 1.4Mbps. I haven't tested beyond this. 192Kbps ACC-LC is the highest quality I can discern with this phone but I generally use 128Kbps even for song vids and movies.

Format, container, resolution, bitrate

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H.264 MP4, QVGA-WVGA, < 2.8Mbps - Flawless

H.264 MP4, 720p, > 4Mbps - Fail, unless the clip has very little motion

H.264 FLV, 480p-720p, > 700Kbps - Fail

H.264 MKV, VGA-720p, > 1.5Mbps - Fail

H.264 TS, 720p, 3.5Mbps - Fail

H.264 MOV, 720p, > 3.1Mbps - Fail

DivX MKV, VGA, < 1.4Mbps - Flawless

DivX AVI, VGA, < 2.4Mbps - Flawless

DivX AVI, 720p, < 3Mbps - Nearly flawless

XviD AVI, VGA, < 1.5Mbps - Flawless

XviD AVI, 720p, > 2.1Mbps - Fail

MSMP4 AVI, 720p, 3.5Mbps - Fail

MSMP4 AVI, QVGA, < 800Kbps - Flawless

MPEG-4 AVI, 720p, 4.0Mbps - Fail

MPEG-4 3GP, WVGA-720p, >2Mbps - Fail

WMV8 WMV, QVGA, < 400Kbps - Flawless

WMV8 WMV, QVGA-720p, >1.2Mbps - Fail

VC-1 WMV, 720p, > 2.0Mbps - Fail

Of them, the stock player, Act 1 and Meridian succeed only in playing;

H.264 MP4, QVGA-WVGA, < 2.8Mbps - Flawless

H.264 MP4, 720p, 3-10Mbps - Nearly flawless, depends on the clip

MP4 3GP, QVGA-720p, < 10Mbps - Flawless

WMV8 WMV, VGA, < 400Kbps - Flawless

QVGA is anything around 320x240 (incl. WQVGA).

VGA is anything around 640x480.

480p is anything around 720x480.

WVGA is anything around 800x480.

720p is anything around 1280x720.

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[Desire Themes and Apps] well0549:
After a period of time i can say it plays my reencoded mp4 files at approx 25% CPU usage. So if you reencode you get more Play-Time. (SystemPanel is a great app by the way, thanks for the tip)
[Desire Themes and Apps] abats:
The 100% cpu refers to using not recoded DivX/XVid files instead of reencoded MP4 that i would play with a default player anyway.
[Wing, P4350 General] ewoenam:
hello, i have T-Mobile Wing ( hera110) . sombody can help me to do the unlock...

plz.....
[Desire Accessories] k3v:
Hi,

I have just received a Brando antiglare screen protector. It has a notch in one corner along the short side. Whch way round on the phone should this go? Is there a sensor or somethin that is not supposed to be covered?

Kev