yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] smek3rul:
:((

i like the this phone but i want an update. i whant pinchi , flash and hd camera....
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] ddewbofh:
Sadly pinching won't ever happen since it's a harware limitation. But check out the sony ericsson developer tutorials on market. They have a concept for a zoom that (imo) is far superior.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] sabianadmin:
Im sorry but its a hardware limitation? I HIGHLY doubt that, the G1 can handle multitouch, theres just no API's for multitouch on the X10.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] ddewbofh:
You can doubt that all you want, but the facts don't agree with you. The touchpanel doesn't support multitouch. Whether you believe it or not is of less importance.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] sabianadmin:
Wow that is really poor on sony erricson's behalf. what was the other method of multi touch you mentioned by the way ?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] ddewbofh:
The other method I mentioned isn't actually multitouch but a much better way to zoom than pinching. You basically touch the screen until it vibrates then slide your finger up or down to zoom in and out. Unlike pinching it's precise and possible using just one hand.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] mtechfan:
I too would prefer this way. The only real life use for multitouch is playing games or the musical apps, both of which I rarely use.

But as I suggested before, SE could be denying the capability of multi touch because they want to keep cRapple of their backs. As you all know cRapple went after HTC and one of the things they claimed was that multitouch was their idea, but we know that's B$! Multitouch technology was demonstared by developers before the first iPhone even existed!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] ddewbofh:
That's a very good point which I hadn't considered. I'd forgotten that Apple has a bunch of litigous tards running their show. Yet another reason that single-touch zooming is the superior solution. ;)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] hoss_n2:
calm down the x10 digitizer modell number is not known yet and not any thing Se says should be belived so nothinng is confirmed yet
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] ddewbofh:
Hehe, I'm cooler than a cucumber so don't worry. :)

I'm just going by the SE product blog where they say that it's not just a software limitation but also a hardware limitation. That sounds to me like the hardware doesn't support it.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] dan-htc-touch:
the g1's hardware was "not supported" on multitouch as well, for hax multitouch, they don't use real multitouch.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] gaolinde:
the single touch zoom seem quite cool

but i wondering how can it live along those function also need long press

and how do you zoom in top of the screen and zoom out bottom?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Deimos():
But hasn't SE also announced that multi-touch will be available with the upgrade to 2.1? I don't think they're very trustworthy.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] ddewbofh:
True, but then again multitouch is a sought after feature so it seems odd that they'd not have it. I seriously doubt that they'd cripple their phone considering that it's already built into the OS and wouldn't take much effort to implement. So it makes much more sense for it to be an actual HW limitation.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] DonAndress:
Guys, guys, guys, stop that argument and search a little.

Read in GSMarena's review:

Update: Sony Ericsson have officially confirmed that multi-touch the Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 cannot be enabled because of hardware limitations.

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_x10-review-463p2.php
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] cvchetan:
guys until now its absolutely clear that no multitouch will ever be available on the x10. so please stop using the rom development thread to discuss this matter.

if sumone actually manages to get multitouch on the x10 then should we start discussing on it..
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] MeZmeriZe_:
I just started looking into hacking the x10, and a PS shows a fair number of processes running as root. Is there a list of what processes have been looked into for overruns and such? Don't want to waste my time well tread paths. Also, anyone know of android specific security lists?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] sim-value:
I think lollylost has acces to emma, amongst other people.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] jerpelea:
yes but he alwais helped xda like se helped us

so forget about him

HE WILL NOT HELP
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] lqbweb:
come on, i know that he has support you quite a lot :D
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] sabianadmin:
apparently we have root according to the rooting/donations thread so we no longer need emma right (unless your looking at it from a flashing the rooted rom standpoint?)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] sim-value:
jerpelea is part of the People working on root, i guess they need it to provide an Easy method.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] ddewbofh:
As much as I want the bits _NOW_ I think it's for the best that they make it safe. For everyone like me that like taking risks and figuring stuff out there's atleast ten others who will gripe and moan if they can potentially brick their phone. :)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] sabianadmin:
if and when we all have this beaut rooted then put me down for initial rom testing. (As a software developer i despise when people come to me like "hey! i wanna test!" i just want to be like "hey! i want you to learn C++ and then come back to me!")

At least i am able to do proper bug reports instead of whaaa such and such dosnt work! maybe even a fix or two!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] dejanet:
check your PM.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] jerpelea:
thanks for your help

we have those

we need the files from emma

(2 zip arhives or extracted .sin files)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] :
I will have a look. Do you need them decrypted? Filenames preserved?

@dejanet - could you send me the files you sent to jerpelea? I need the two SEUS files containing R1EA018 to decrypt.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] JamesBarnes:
Is anyone working on cracking the boot loader so we can start flashing custom roms? I'd like to help. What communication channels are available?

Thanks.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] bloke:
Try PM'ing jerpelea

Bloke
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] goroh_kun:
nand extra driver

hi, all

I modified original msm_nand driver to access X10 nand non-public area.

kernel module binary and source code is here.

http://hotfile.com/dl/51628399/a786944/mtd_nand_ex.tgz.html

it is built for japanese version kernel, so if you want to use this.

maybe you should re-build driver module.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Bin4ry:
YOU ARE MY PERSONAL HERO :D

Regards

Bin4ry
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] chandyperry:
next step : break the bootloader... yes, goroh_can ! :p

With this, is it possible to install other drivers (like the camera one) on custom ROMS ?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] goroh_kun:
nand raw image dump with extra nand module

I uploaded mtd dump program for xperia with my mtd_nand_ex module.

It includes souce code, and static linked binary.

http://hotfile.com/dl/52240500/a1a6e72/mtd_raw_dump.zip.html

With normal mtd-utils(nand-dump), you can't rip complete nand image.

so I have to change mtd mode to RAW MODE.

the raw image includes OOB(Out Of Band) area, so we have to

calculate ECC（Error Correction Code） to get its executable image.

;)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] ddewbofh:
Impressive work, that should help out. :)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] giwrgos:
after i have flashed my phone. jack is not working. this is an issue of the flash?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] MarylandCookie:
Can you post in the right thread please.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=711969
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] zephyrix:
Check out android/kernel/drivers/mtd/devices/msm_nand.c
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] MarylandCookie:
^The Sony PS3 also uses a similar method to boot Linux, in this case a custom kernel/initramfs is located into firmware. This kernel then boot the "real" Linux system using kexec.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] k1ckn1ck:
no proper way to hack the bootloader then?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] sabianadmin:
ok cool, so then lets start talking about what needs be done to patch the boot loader because that will make it easier to flash on a per rom basis
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] rosco16:
Great!!!

If you had flashed NAND ...is it correct to say that x10 is root 100% already ??

cheers
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] ddewbofh:
Not necessarily. Just because you can write the software to nand that doesn't mean you have something ready to write. It's an important step on the way but it's not the final solution. We still need a bootloader that doesn't check the ramdisk and since we haven't heard anything about that yet I presume it's not ready.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] zephyrix:
Dump the bootloader, patch it, then rewrite.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] mengqingfei:
it seems likely no way to go about Custom ROM..........:(
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] arj154:
hey have some faith, these devs are brilliant! I think they can do it, we just need to give them some time. After all getting the bootloader sorted is probably the hardest thing to do.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] strix75:
i just don't understand all people that demands all devs to fix custom rom hack bootloader, don't you understand that they are doing all they can. if you are not happy what the devs are trying to do fix it yourself then and stop crying like a baby over the progress. this take time to do and there is no magic formula, just hard work.

so please just stop naging.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] ofiveo:
basically this. they're doing this basically for free. we got root, which people thought would be impossible, and now everyone wants custom ROM's right now. when it happens, and i'm sure it will since they cracked sony's crazy patched, they will post the news

take it easy, enjoy the rooted, faster x10 and wait for custom ROMs:D
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] mattiL:
Talk about setting a positive tone in a 1:st post...

Have faith, sinners.:p
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] zephyrix:
Of course I know that. Playing with the bootloader is never very safe.

Didn't know that the bootloader/fota apps have some kind of "lock" though.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] jossgray:
what are you guys using to disassemble the spl?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] arj154:
is there gonna be a donation for the custom rom development? You guys deserve something extra for working so hard on this bootloader issue! It sounds like your making some real progress with it!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Vilam:
+1

I have to say that I didn't donated for the root (it's a choice, I think you understant, and I never promised to), but if custom root happen, I think I'll get a "little" thanks for you.

Maybe between 20 or 50€, for making the works SE should do.

But anyway, for the moment crowd must let dev work in peace^^

If I had times, I may jump into android hacking like I did for nds or iOs during many years^^
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] cvchetan:
is this good news for we x10 owners or bad news???
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Bin4ry:
Decide yourself :D

Regards
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] cvchetan:
well i can interpret it in both ways from your statement that "it does not boot like it is.."

thats the reason i need ur assistance in figuring out..
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] proyaz:
seems lik gud news 4 me .. or may b even bad news .. :confused: :D
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] HunteronX:
At least the phone is trying to boot. Maybe you could speak to some G1 devs, and see how they modded its SPL? (Unless you already know how to do so?)

Thanks again guys for all your hard work! :)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] brat81:
I didn't donate for root even knowing it was a big achievement i rather wait for bootlaoder to be modded successfully then i will donate for both (assuming it's the same guys that crack it)

Either way great work guys and best of luck it seems like over the last few days you've had some good progress.

Is it just a matter of removing/patching those security checks and were pretty much done ?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] leslie222:
Thanks guys!! This is what I am holding my breath for.......Cant wait to use froyo on my 10!!!!! :):):):):)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] genuinereyon:
Keep us updated guys. I'm itching to donate if it works out.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] ddewbofh:
Hehe, "just". You make it sound so easy. Modifying a binary bootloader is seriously tricky business, without source it's nigh impossible. :)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] ddewbofh:
Two words. OMFG and OMFGWTFBBQ!!!oneooneone

Seriously though, great job. This is gonna be fun to play with. :)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] j4mm3r:
WOW

OMG... are these the words that I've been waiting to hear or what!! Great Work man!!!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] laurence0609:
Very good news and excellent progress by all the people working in the development! I will patiently wait for this! Great work guys!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] mootmaina:
iv never been much of a donater however if you guys set it up ill contribute to the cause. Its people like you that make the world of hacking work! And you do deserive the credit cause many people get the benifits from the work. ..... good work and ready to give more to those who truly deserve it.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] ClintonH:
This is great news. :D I'm down with making a donation just need a paypal addy. ;) Keep up the great work guys can't wait to see it all come to light, it's like waiting for my Magic all over again. (But way better)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] instigator008:
Can anyone explain to me, in simple terms, what means?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] brat81:
They pretty much have a bootloader that works with the x10 but it's not fully functioning at the moment.

In turn it's a big step.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] sim-value:
Am i right that if i flash this Bootloader i will be able to boot from USB ONLY right now?

Anyways great work!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Milz136:
wait does this mean we will be able to load 2.1 onto the x10 when this is ready?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] IxXxI:
cyanogenmod 6 (FROYO)?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] leslie222:
Cant wait...:-) Cant breathe:-) wow!!!! will donate for this .I hope I can from India...
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] ardf69:
goroh_kun, you did a really good job. I think SE must hire you ;)

Ciao Angelo
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] HunteronX:
This is brilliant! But is there a way to flash the bootloader easily?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] maxld:
Cant wait for this...
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] brat81:
so i must ask has anyone flashed it yet ?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] lqbweb:
just a question.... then, the only issue left facing on, is the automatic booting?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] zephyrix:
I have a way to automatically boot. Just waiting on the working CM6 :p
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] jerpelea:
then enlighten us

how do you boot cm6 ?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] muchski:
man I am so excited! What a glorious accomplishment this will be! Maybe we will be running CM6 by month's end!

thanks in advance to the hard working ppl who brought us the root and hopefully soon a working bootloader! :)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] rosco16:
And can you try with CM5 ( android 2.1 ) with your method ?

cheers
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] zephyrix:
I said I could get it to automatically boot into another kernel. I don't have a working kernel though.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] sim-value:
But will Flash-tool still be able to reflash original Firmware?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] kishen80:
Need to know. Will tis root work in malaysia?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] RAND0M1ZER:
Good question
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] dschaefer79:
Cyanogen Mod Updater

Hi,

Will the cyanogen mod updater work too ?

It will be great.

Thanks.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] HunteronX:
No, unless cyanogen starts making roms for the X10, as

the drivers are different for the camera, for example.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Meikrekel:
new to the scene

Hey guys,

I'm new to the android-scene and recently purchased a sony ericsson x10. I don't have the device yet, but I've already heard about this hacking, rooting and the development of custom ROM's. So my question is: is it overall possible that there will be custom ROM's for the X10 (I readed on several other sites that it isn't possible to install custom ROM's on the X10). I really like the specs of the device, but I don't like that "theme" sony ericsson pre-installed (mediascape and timescape). I'd rather have a ROM installed that looks like the one on the nexus one. That seems to be way faster. So would that be possible, installing custom made ROM's and making them?

And if the answer on that question is yes, how far is the community in making these custom ROM's etc?

I'm really happy with my purchase:)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] leslie222:
Deleted...wrong forum
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] ddewbofh:
Well you know how they say: You get what you pay for. :)

Garmin et al charge a pretty penny for their software while the Google navigation is free of charge so naturally there's bound to be some differences. That being said Google navigation is pretty nice and I expect to be able to use it full-time once it hits northern Europe.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] ashman84:
Can the useless banter be moved to the general section threads please? Let the devs do their work.. They seem to be getting close to what we're after.. so please.. lets not clutter the thread.. :)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] sahha:
great

we need 2.2 :D
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] ddewbofh:
A little off-topic but I just wanted to say that I love getting these quick updates from the team. Much better than complete silence interrupted by huge changes like with the initial rooting.

Keep up the good work, it's appreciated. :)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] macr59:
Excellent news. The updates are much appreciated. Well done to all the Devs..
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] theMaDHakkeR:
This is fantastic. Keep up the amazing work guys!!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] HunteronX:
Thanks guys, this is brilliant!

Does this mean that autobooting a new kernel is now possible, using goroh_kun's splboot module?

EDIT: I don't mean to be a pest, but please could you allow for a 1.13 GHz overclock in the kernel too?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] rosco16:
thanks for rom jerpelea
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] tuxStyle:
you have enough juice in that battery for 1.13 GHz? :)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] HunteronX:
I hope so... :)

Anyway, I just think it will be useful for processor intensive stuff, like playing 'hd' games, or watching videos with RockPlayer, yxplayer etc.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] irkkso:
sory for off-topick replay

but for gaming and video processor plays a minor role (look 3mark Benchmark the core i7 barely supports primitive graphics without a video accereration coprocessor) may be a calculator would take faster:D
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Meikrekel:
How do I install it?

(Sorry if this is to off-topic, I'll delete the post)

So if I understand it well, he has managed to get cyanogen 6 RC1 working on his X10. Now I've googled what that exactly is and I think this would be something I'd like to install as soon as I've got the phone (already ordered). But I have no idea how to do that. Maybe it would be usefull if someone could make a tutorial on how to do this?

I would really appreciate that and I'm sure a lot of other people would appreciate it to! I would make one if I'd know how to install it:p
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] CaseyB:
The first step is to root the device. Check out the post on that for more info.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Nimche:
Meikrekel,

This is how it works. Developers finish workin on a project and when they feel it is stable for regular user like us to use it, then they will release it with tutorial if needed. So all we have to do is to wait for them to work it out.

Mean while you should read other parts of X10 forum to learn more about some other procedures you may apply to your phone.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Meikrekel:
sorry

Sorry mate, your right! I'm just over-excited, have never had such a phone and now I'm waiting very patiently (ahum) till it arrives! I'll just shut up till they are done (just thought that they where done):)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] MarylandCookie:
Can a Moderator please make a Rooting and Custom ROM Development - Civilian/Non-Dev Discussion Thread and move all the non-dev related posts there please.

Despite the requests to keep it clean, it still goes off topic!

Thank you.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] theMaDHakkeR:
My understanding is that cymod already has and oc kernel so we can oc. Just watch the battery.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] mootmaina:
Why would you want to overclock! Waist of time, effort and battery and heat. This device will be able to run andriod 3 (with some minor ram adjustments that im sure can be swapped from sd card) fine. And im not have any performance issues with 1.6 anyway.

I just want to see this device used to its full potential, i.e custom roms not full of crap and optimised for the x10.

keep up the work devs. My knowledge is minimal and wish i could help...
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] gfgodoy:
There shoul be a read-only thread.... EVERY F TIME I GET TO READ 3 pages of crap before something usefull. Sorry Its been like that with rooting and now with custom roms. People just CAN"T read/stay on topic.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] jerpelea:
all dev work moved here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=7207642#post7207642

released cyanogen v6 for devs
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] james_2k:
pfffft.

overclocking 4 life. pc/phone/whatever, bigger faster stronger baby yeah!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] antoniolcrd:
Access...

who may state if access has been granted indeed

;)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Escaperoute:
So what eveyone saying is Xperia X10 bootloader is finally hack and you can put Cyanogen ROM in X10, but i don't think it will work fully coz the driver for X10 like camera is not supported by Cyanogen, and X10 is just arrived in AT&T.

So i keep my finger cross for Cyanogen on X10 but maybe when the gingerbread (3.0) is out and Cyanogen team support the X10.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Findee:
Yes, the devs can write drivers for the camera. They have to write drivers for everything else anything.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Creptio:
I was really excited when i read this a few days ago, however a little disappointed to see no posts from him since then... Any updates in relevance to this?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] helliewm:
I too would love an update on this. I do hope they have sorted out the boot loader?

Helen
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] leslie222:
i guess its not happening:-( wait for the SE update .....
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] HunteronX:
Look from here onwards:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=726813&page=37

And here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=8557090#post8557090
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] monta990:
some body have X10a_2_0_2_A_0_24_GLOBAL rooted

some body have X10a_2_0_2_A_0_24_GLOBAL rooted i cant found it, in the web, today i update to this version and i lost the root

This is the update files from SEUS (Sony Ericcson Updare System)

megaupload.com/?d=DBDCIGN5

Some boby can give me guide to mod the roms, thx for your help and sorry for my english.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] nachicocum:
Help!

Just the same issue!! Does anyone has achieved to root with this compilation??, have tried with z4root and Universal androot neither worked for me :(