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[HD2 General] fnordelus:
I have both..

I have both. My HD2 is collecting dust. Even with Dutty's ROM it can not hold a candle to the nexus one.

I've always wanted the n900 but the resistive displays scratch too easily, and I hate screen protectors.

Nexus One all the Way!!!!!!!

(no disrespect to HD2 it's a great device)
[HD2 General] zarathustrax:
It depends what you want. I'm happy with what the HD2 can do now. I prefer WinMo, and it has enough apps available now to keep me happy for a while. By the time it really starts feeling outdated because of lack of support, I'm sure I'll be ready for a new phone. My next phone I'm sure will be android, as I'm not liking the way WinPhone7 is looking either.

But this site is enough support for me to be happy with WinMo at least for the next year.
[HD2 General] darkphantom:
Coming from an N95, I know I will love the N900's GPS/Camera features, and the new Maemo OS seems to have 4500+ apps already! while WM has <2000

:( If i trade it in, I will definitely miss the large screen on the HD2...
[HD2 General] rp-x1:
Why do people think that the HD2 is going to instantly die when WinPhone7 comes out?

WinPhone7 is a glorified feature-phone OS, not a true smart-phone, rather like our Apple friends.

And anyway, take a look at this forum, there are a fair few devices still supported by this community that use WinMo5, let alone 6.5/6.5.x, so it proves an OS doesn't die once a new version is released.
[HD2 General] KidTech:
I wish i could return mine, for the N1 but w.e. Though they might be Android on HD2..
[HD2 General] zarathustrax:
Don't rely on an android port to be used as a full-time os... it will be a long time before it's functional enough to use as the main os on the hd2. You'll probably be ready for a new phone by that time. It'll still even be a while before there's even a bootable copy of android. Don't get peoples hopes up thinking they can run android on the HD2 soon.... we already have enough posts being started by people who think it will be ready soon.
[HD2 General] cgrec92:
I had the HD2, now I have the HTC DESIRE - A MILLION TIMES BETTER
[HD2 General] darkphantom:
I'm not afraid it will die, but rather, the support for android is MUCH more than WM 6.5.x and I doubt, even after the revival of WM devices, that the support will grow to that of android.

The phone is gorgeous...I just wish it had android :(
[HD2 General] RReckless:
It's funny i hear this kind of stuff all the time. I love my HD2 but ive just bought a HTC desire for my daughter so I'll get a chance to do a really good comparison.

I wonder if Android is all its cracked up to be

RReckless
[HD2 General] eenbox:
I got HD2 to last me couple of years and will keep it that long - after that I will get something else...
[HD2 General] zole2112:
I had the Nexus 1 for 2 months then sold it to buy the Nexus 1 ATT 3G version but I thought I would try the HD2 as a comparison to see which i liked better. I've had my HD2 for about 2 months and at this point I think I'm going to stick with my HD2, the hardware is so sweet! Nexus 1 is easier to use and customize and competes more directly with the iPhone with the Android market. I still have my G1 which I am constantly flashing with new roms but my main phone is my HD2 which I love.
[HD2 General] socialenemy2007:
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/TECH/04/27/google.nexus.one/
[HD2 General] DN41:
why nexus one and not desire?

i would miss the huge screen from our beloved hd2 :) just awesome watch some movies...

think best "enemy" to hd2 will be evo 4g...but release is some months away ;)

DN41
[HD2 General] fantasytozi:
Desire is great, but I rather wait for a GSM version of Evo or Incredible than saying farewell with my HD2 right now:D
[HD2 General] friend'scatdied:
Android is overrated. The only real useful advantage Android held (for me) was the much more integrated and well-developed Market.

If you have the time to hunt and peck for exactly the applications you need, the HD2 is really the best you can get. The Nexus One has inferior build quality (physical trackball, "teflon" build) and an inferior Pentile display (the cheapest AMOLED type available; it doesn't hold a candle to better AMOLED displays).

I've used the Nexus One and stock Android just sucks, in any iteration. I was only really impressed with how clean and useful the Google-developed apps were for the device (Maps, Goggles, Mail, et cetera). If you're heavily invested into Google's web-based applications the Nexus One and Android could easily be the ticket into smartphone satisfaction. As for me, however, I hardly touch my Google account.

You very explicitly void your warranty with the Nexus One if you root it, which unfortunately also makes it infinitely more useful and enjoyable. With the HD2 you can HardSPL but go back and the RMA department won't give a damn. And I much prefer a decent WinMo ROM to a rooted Android, surprisingly enough. The organizing functionality and pure business capabilities of Windows Mobile aren't quite matched by Android yet, even with Google Sync.

I'm surprised with all the Android evangelists out and about nowadays. Ever since it became cool to bash Windows Mobile for being a perfectly serviceable (if demanding) smartphone OS, the general public have been clamoring for a new smartphone OS to champion them all.

But the very truth of it is that Android OS is actually more similar to Windows Mobile than it is different. Windows Mobile is actually more mature and capable given its age and well-developed feature-set. A good friend of mine once dismayed that "Android is going down the path of Windows Mobile." I concurred.
[HD2 General] jdwme:
I prefer android. I have an Incredible for a work phone, and the HD2 for my personal phone. I forward calls to the Incredible all the time. Sure the HD2 is impressive for it's screen size and how vibrant it is, but for me tho OS was too slow compared to my Incredible. I've used android since the G1, I was a preorder guy. Before that I was on winmo. It's all about what's the right fit for the end user though, so while we can all give you our opinions, in the end you have to pick what's the best fit for you. I can tell you I've been hunting for a week now on Craigslist for a Nexus One, and have gotten close to a few trades. So there are people on both sides that want the one they don't have ;)
[HD2 General] darkphantom:
Ok, today was definitely nerve racking for me. Phone froze well over 5 times and the only thing I was doing was replying to messages or on a call looking for numbers.

Can someone tell me what I should do to stop the freezing?

Will flashing the phone with a ROM help?

what does flashing the phone even do? and the radio???
[HD2 General] Raadius:
Let's break your post down by paragraph

1. Teflon build? Cheap AMOLED? Clearly subjective. Even if it is a cheap AMOLED screen it's a much better and brighter the one on the HD2 and won't kill your battery as much either.

2. Again, subjective with the personal opinions that are faaaar from fact.

3. Flashing your WinMo phone with a ROM voids your warranty too.

The rest was just a wall of personal opinion text that really doesn't hold any weight as fact, your a winmo fanboy so I ignored it.
[HD2 General] DN41:
lets clear that out...

i would say there isnt much difference between the two phones.

theyre both great...

anything else is just subjective.

DN41
[HD2 General] erebusting:
Before I reply to this quote below let me say a few things:

I have owned both phones...I was one of the first to get the HD2 (got it on launch day in the morning)....I returned it, I liked the phone -just could not stand that half of the apps for WinMo were not completely compatible with it...some were designed for buttons only, others buttons and touch screens then theres multiple screen resolutions etc...but thats because WinMo has been around for a long time...so see that is also why Android apps are much better fitting for their phones -the only android phones out all have touch screens and somewhat similar almost like the iPhones (they all are basically the same phone which leads to multiple compatible apps over time)....

I now have the N1 (got it last week)...I really like this phone too, but I had to spend 500+ on it which is the thing that has me thinking about returning it too...I believe it is not worth over 500$us because for one the touch panel has been phased out already (check what the Incredible and Supersonic have)...also a personal opinion here- I dont really like the trackball, I wish it was an optical one, although I do really like how it lights up different colors...and I miss the large screen the HD2 had-but I like this screen because it is much crisper...

I think I will return my N1 and wait for something else to be compatible with USA TMobile, possibly something with a contract or at least a decent price...

1-Yes this is true.... I just miss the large size of the HD2 screen (wish they could combine these positives)..

3- It voids your warranty-yes. but can you revert to stock and clear the evidence that you voided your warranty (thus effectively restoring your warranty) YES!...but on the nexus one if you root it there is no way to go back and "un-root" it as you may say I guess...so your warranty is stuck voided...

...another point that affects my decisions here: I cannot use some phones because of the network I am on -I cannot use the Desire, Incredible, EVO 4G etc without switching networks or Countries (which is ridiculous)...
[HD2 General] friend'scatdied:
Ouch, nice stab. We're getting a little touchy, are we? I'll respond to you formulaically as well.

1. a. http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news...exus-ones-screen-science-color-and-hacks.ars/

It's an incontrovertible fact that Pentile displays are cheaper than traditional RGB AMOLED displays, and confer insufficient benefits compared to the negatives (poor text definition and resolution of straight lines, questionable "effective" resolution). The HD2's screen is also somewhat usable in sunlight; the Nexus One's isn't really usable at all. If you compare the Nexus One to a premium LCD like the one in the Droid/Milestone, the latter will come out a head in every metric except contrast and brightness (yes, the Milestone wins for color accuracy too). You can confirm the metrics with a monitor color calibrator if you want; the Milestone's screen is much closer to the beauty of my IPS panels than the crap screen on the Nexus One is. Brightness and contrast a good screen do not make. Do you use a TN panel or an IPS panel?

The fact (read: objective, backed by hard scientific evidence) of the matter is that the Nexus One has an inferior screen with an effective resolution of 392x653 and "[o]verall, it is hard to see any really good advantages to the PenTile layout, yet there are some big downsides in reducing spatial resolution of two of the color channels. (Ars)"

b. Fair enough on the teflon build; the Nexus One is damn solid actually. It's at least on par with the HD2 in terms of durability. TBH it's just that I don't like its color scheme or how it looks.:pWouldn't be surprised if I was in the minority here.

c. The AMOLED certainly isn't doing you any favors. The HD2 lasts around as long on a smaller battery (1230mAH vs. 1400mAH) while powering a larger screen.

2. Obviously. I very blatantly stated that anyone with a deep investment in Google or Google's web-based applications would see the Nexus One as a very worthwhile investment. I also confessed that the app Market for Android is pretty good, despite being somewhat immature at present; it is a great advantage over WinMo for OTA app-browsing and downloading. I don't know how much more even-handed you can get without being dishonest.

3. Sure, but there's no explicit one-time statement that says something to the effect "Warning: Unlocking your bootloader will permanently void your warranty!" Once again the RMA process for the HD2 simply doesn't check if the phone was ever HardSPL'd or flashed. Can't say the same for the Nexus One.

And actually, I prefer WebOS. So I'm a WebOS fanboy, really.
[HD2 General] darkphantom:
Hey guys, I know we all have our preferences here, but I really need you guys to help me out.

How do I back up or find out my stock rom if and when I want to return it, and what should I do prior to flashing my rom? I'm looking at Kumar's latest rom.

Also, is the desire available for the US market with TMOUS?
[HD2 General] friend'scatdied:
No, the Desire is apparently coming as an AT&T exclusive.
[HD2 General] erebusting:
seriously? where did you see that? thats kind of dumb since the nexus one is practically the same phone though, but I would prefer the desire over it....

As far as I know the desire is only available in UK networks but It may work in the US on edge/gprs only...
[HD2 General] KidTech:
According to Phonearena.com Desire is coming to ATT in end of May or June

http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/HTC-Desire-US-phone-p_4476.html
[HD2 General] friend'scatdied:
Not sure how true it is, but yeah it's a projected and "confirmed" rumor. Along with the "confirmed" rumor that AT&T will get the XPERIA X10.

I can see AT&T offering one of the handsets, but not both. They're too similar.
[HD2 General] darkphantom:
I'm selling the phone.

It is abysmally performing with any ROM I flash...works fine for the first hour or two, but once the apps start coming in, and the music is loaded....it dies.
[HD2 General] darkphantom:
Son of a b!#$%

The shotty SDHC is a class 2! what a joke!

I'm trying my class 6 sdhc and seeing if that gives me problems
[HD2 General] darkphantom:
Got a new HD2 today....should I open it and try it out, or just sell it?
[HD2 General] sirphunkee:
If you're very careful about how you handle it, you can try it for a couple of days, and then still sell it (on ebay anyway) as "New - other (only opened to verify item functions)" ;)
[HD2 General] a4_h23:
So I posted about a week ago about my hd2 getting water in it and drying it out with silica gel. It's been a week and the water has dried out about 95% and looks pretty good. I do have a question though (if anybody has any ideas or insights, that would be awesome)...

The screen is looking good but when I load Opera or YouTube (any screen really that is mostly white) I can see light brown striations in the bottom right corner. Could this be water residue? The "water" was actually solution from Invisible Shield so there are probably other things in the solution besides water. Is it some sort of dried out residue that is causing the striations, or is my screen just partially damaged/discolored?

I read that soaking the phone in alcohol will clear out water/residue from water and was wondering if it will work? Anybody who has done it before? Does anybody know if it will "wash out" the residue causing the striations? Thanks in advance. I'd really appreciate any insight!
[HD2 General] egzthunder1:
I'm gonna dare say it is residue...
[HD2 General] a4_h23:
Yep. Alcohol got it off but now there's more residue elsewhere -.-

I'm going to open it up in a few days when the repair kit comes thru the mail. Oh my...hopefully I won't kill the phone completely.
[HD2 General] Snarksneeze:
I dropped my Kaiser in the bathtub (thanks to my overzealous 2yo tossing it at me when it rang) and immediately pulled the battery. I let it sit out overnight in a bed of rice, but the keyboard still had some moisture in it the next day.

I have some dielectric fluid for various projects and decided to give that a shot, since water will float to the surface of any mineral oil-based fluid. It sat there for about an hour.

When I finally got the nerve to turn it on, the screen was very dark and didn't make it past the first bootscreen. I pulled out the keyboard to find that the fluid had stripped the adhesive from the keyboard lining. Now the phone is another toy for my child :(

Just Curious: How did the fluid get inside the phone? Did you not follow Zagg's directions?
[HD2 General] a4_h23:
there was fluid on the counter and I didn't realize it. It seeped in from the back where there were gaps. I used to have an iPhone and that never happened cuz there were no gaps for water to get in especially in such little amounts. I've put 3 zaggs on 3 different iDevices in the exact same manner and they never got water inside.
[HD2 General] chamelaion:
hello people.

i'm a little late for an answer but the same happened to me just today. i removed the first protector and installed the second one and the glass cleaner (i didnt use water, just a glass cleaner that is self drying) got under the screen. i see a big shade that is getting bigger by the hour and i dont know why. i see it very clearly when the screen is showing something white. I' m hopping for now that it will go away.

Also i would like to say that there are some spray canister for that job. to remove the moister from electronic devices. the local dealer of nch corporation demonstrated me once a product like that and i was very sattisfied. So if the moister persist i will try that.
[HD2 General] d0ug:
The problem with LCD screens is all the layers of material inside them, once you get moisture, residue, dirt inside an LCD its likely wrecked forever. I mean the LCD will still work but you'll probably never get the discolorations to go away. I have pulled apart a few backlit LCDs myself. Typically you have the LCD panel on top, 2 light diffusing layers, a "lightpipe" that takes the light from LEDs or CCFL tube at the edge of the screen and evenly distributes, and then a silver or white layer backing the whole thing.

Your only true chance to restore the LCD to original, would be to completely disassemble it, separating all the layers and then cleaning each layer back and front with a good cleaner, lint free microfiber cloth, and then try to reassemble the whole thing without getting fingerprints and dust from the air inside. It can be done. but its really not worth it when you can just pickup a LCD module off ebay.
[HD2 General] NickPDX:
I was wondering if everybody drains the battery to 0% before charging their HD2. I have done this the first 5 times or so now but am thinking that it isn't a big deal at this point?

What does everybody think?
[HD2 General] crisisinthecity:
I like to drain all of my devices before charging them. With my phones, I always let them drain until they won' t turn back on when I first get them for the first few charges, but that's it... I think you are good. Plus you can always buy a spare battery if it stops holding a charge. The HD2 over Iphone advantage!
[HD2 General] NickPDX:
Yeah that sounds like how I usually run my batteries ... I will drain them 100% the first handful of times. Then after that I just charge at night when it is lower.

I have been looking at the larger capacity battery with the kickstand. Might buy that as a spare. Does anybody have the external wall charger for this phone ... I saw it on a few websites. I wonder if it works with the larger battery too? Would be nice if you could charge outside the phone with a second one.
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
the drain/charge cycle was for nickle MH- batteries.

It's no longer necessary for Lithium ion batteries, cos they dont suffer from charge memory effect.. or at least thats what the science says.
[HD2 General] kcaj32:
I agree.

But there's no harm doing it the old way. I've let my battery die completely before I plug in the charger. I think I've done it 6 times in the last 7 days that I've owned the phone.
[HD2 General] toreone:
Wall charger

I bought a wall charger from Amazon and it was wigging my phone out for some reason. But went back to the USB charger but with a 6ft Extension and now its awesome! That little USB wall charger thing was just way too short! :cool:
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
oh absolutely, i still try run it a good way down now and again, , old habits and that.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pix582:
spent all day getting this to work, and it works.

had to make a goldcard using the unlockr's guide.

sorry i cant post links yet.

i use a 2gb sandisk.

hope this helps
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kay.seshie:
hi
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Warbuff:
Search the cyanogen wiki. What problems are you having?
[General Topics] francomur99:
Hello I just want to move or copy and paste my applications on to the SD Card on my android device because my phone memory is full. The apps like Astro or Linda or AppMonster don't..I repeat don't do the job I want. If I do the backup and then I go back and check in to manage application and uninstall couple of programs when I back to one of these application like Astro and I check into the Sd card the applications I uninstalled from the phone memory have disappeared also from the SD Card...So! These applications are useless. Until Google don't sort it out this mess it is impossible to have more memory on your device. Can you image Windows Mobile can do this since 2000 and the Iphone at list have big internal Storage...Android in this particular issue sucks!! Don't get me wrong I love my Hero but to me is completely ridicolous that I install 3 games and 50 application and the memory is gone... So what is the object to have a big market if you cannot install what you want? We need to create a group in Facebook an press google to solve the problem.
[General Topics] eaglesteve:
Have you explored using Apps2SD to install the applications on storage card instead? I don't have experience on this, but understand that some users are able to overcome the memory problem with this approach.

Is it because you do not want to root the phone? What's the concern you have about rooting? Is it because there is noway to relock the bootloader hence there will be warranty issue? Any other reason why you would object to rooting?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ritchie_taz:
Might be a dumb question, but can I upgrade a PPC4100 (WM2003) with ipaq roms from this site, or any other roms to windows mobile 6.5?

thanks
[Desire General] dragona:
Anyone else or am I unlucky?

If I go to Settings/SD and Phone storage, I can see there is a card and it tells me total space, available space etc.

But if I try to play any mp3 that I have put on via pc, it tells me no music found. I get other errors telling me there is no SD card present, when there is.

I can access card through pc. I have formatted, tried another card, put original card in (a camera) and the card works fine in that, so I think it is a phone issue
[Desire General] joe2316:
You might be unlucky, as it seems faulty. Does the card mount OK when you connect to a PC?
[Desire General] dragona:
Yes it does - have tried a variety of cards, 3, and all work, but not on phone :(
[Desire General] dragona:
Ok - all sorted. Took it back and had it exchanged!! phew.....
[Desire General] gordy1:
I have just had the same problem. If you do a google search for h2testw this is a great bit of software that I found, it takes a time to run but it will tell you if the card is stuffed or a fake.
[Desire General] NutsyUK:
Ive rooted my desire using Pauls method. And used the Apps2sd in the second post of is thread.

It apears when Hardreseted it installs some of the apps onto the SD... But when i try to install apps from Market place i get the error insufficient storage available...

What am i doing wrong? Please help.
[Desire General] Guitarfreak26:
Did you partion your sd card?
[Nexus One Accessories] frusso:
Hi

When i put my nexus on desktop dock and run slide-show, it founds all images on SD.

Is possible specify only one folder ? In this way i can create a selection of photo.

Thanks
[Nexus One Accessories] uberingram:
Not possible.
[Desire General] pim:
Hi,

Coming from an HTC HD1 and HD2, I've just bought my HTC Desire yesterday. And wooow, it's amazing ! Really faster than the HD2 !

It seems that my Desire is always connected to the 3G/EDGE network. How can I see if I'm connected or not ? I've set "enable always on mobile" to OFF, and "Auto Sync" to OFF. But I still see the E icon with grey up and down arrows.

Is there an app to disconnect data after x minutes, if the device is not used ? On windows mobile, I was using WM Long Life to do that trick. I don't know if there is something similar, because I'm very new to Android.

Thanks